[09:36] <Jonah> nothing works with 4x1gb ram dimms in
[09:36] <cables> !repeat | SoulRaven
[09:36] <ubotu> SoulRaven: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:36] <Nalleman> cables, why=
[09:37] <Jonah> with 3 in the system boots but crashes a little into doing anything
[09:37] <cables> Nalleman, they only provide security and certain bugfix updates.
[09:37] <Neil3> !patience
[09:37] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:37] <Wavesonics> ok PriceChild, here it is:
[09:37] <Wavesonics> (II) fglrx(0): driver needs X.org 7.1.x.y with x.y >= 0.0
[09:37] <Wavesonics> (II) fglrx(0): detected X.org <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:37] <Wavesonics> (EE) fglrx(0): GART is not initialized, disabling DRI
[09:37] <Wavesonics> (WW) fglrx(0): ***********************************************
[09:37] <Wavesonics> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[09:37] <Nalleman> So instead ubuntu ships with a gaim beta...:/
[09:37] <cables> !paste | Wavesonics
[09:37] <ubotu> Wavesonics: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:37] <Jonah> and then some on the internet say it's not good to have 3 sticks in and faster to just have 2 sticks with less mem
[09:37] <askand> My laptop does a very high pitched sound when i charge it..is something on its way to broke?
[09:37] <cables> Nalleman, yep, deal with it or download it manually
[09:37] <Jonah> i'm mad and don't know where to turn
[09:37] <cables> !offtopic | askand
[09:37] <ubotu> askand: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:37] <bbrazil> Jonah: sound like you have some bad ram
[09:37] <Hobbsee> Wavesonics: please read the topic, and dont paste in here.
[09:38] <Wavesonics> sorry
[09:38] <Jonah> looks like i might have to ebay 2 sticks of ram now, but i don't know
[09:38] <cjsoftuk_> I'm using ncpfs on Ubuntu Server, and I've found a bug, but I can't see a reason why or see who to contact to fix it
[09:38] <Jonah> bbrazil, yeah i just dunno - is it not efficient to use three sticks as it goes into single channel mode?
[09:38] <tonyr1988> Mitsuo: http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa;jsessionid=30778027E6FF5AED7AF4576BF747F904?messageID=7818&#7818
[09:38] <tim167> how do i list files with their complete paths ? i am looking at ls, but cant find a way to do it with that...
[09:39] <tonyr1988> Mitsuo: It has some different solutions.
[09:39] <nuln> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=119715
[09:39] <rr_lap> what do i need to apt-get to have kde? kubuntu-dekstop?
[09:39] <nuln> piti
[09:39] <cables> rr_lap, yep
[09:39] <centrinel> rr_lap: yea
[09:39] <cables> rr_lap, but install it with Aptitude
[09:39] <ompaul> !fr | nuln
[09:39] <ubotu> nuln: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:39] <bbrazil> Jonah: what are you doing that's so memory intensive?
[09:39] <cables> rr_lap, that way when you remove it, all the crap goes too.
[09:39] <cables> rr_lap, command is: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:39] <bbrazil> tim167: find
[09:39] <nuln> oups dsl :)
[09:39] <Wavesonics> here is the log file from X11: http://rafb.net/p/PC1mM211.html
[09:39] <centrinel> you can try kde-core too, a lightweight version of kubuntu
[09:39] <Mitsuo> tonyrl1988: ty, i will check it out..
[09:40] <tim167> bbrazil thanks
[09:40] <bbrazil> tim167: you may also want -maxdepth 1 and -ls
[09:40] <tonyr1988> Mitsuo: Sorry I can't help directly. I haven't had that problem with my processor (looks like that's the culprit)
[09:40] <a5benwillis> DO I have to do anything special to make a USB hard drive writable underUbuntu?
[09:40] <PriceChild> Wavesonics, its not moaning about the versions... its moaning that "GART is not initialised"
[09:40] <PriceChild> a5benwillis, depends how its formatted
[09:40] <cables> a5benwillis, you shouldn't have to...
[09:40] <RedRum> hey cables
[09:40] <Wavesonics> what is GART?
[09:40] <a5benwillis> I cant write and I cant change permissions.
[09:41] <PriceChild> Wavesonics, i don't know i'm afraid
[09:41] <RedRum> i found a picture of you, cables
[09:41] <cables> Wavesonics, are you talking about nVidia?
[09:41] <Jonah> bbrazil, vmware
[09:41] <RedRum> http://www.onlinenetgames.com/content/pictures/1331f5650e005b8c9cab5e7543cb31e4.jpg
[09:41] <Wavesonics> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[09:41] <|ericsson|> !ntfs-3g > |ericsson|
[09:41] <a5benwillis> PriceChild: How can I change the formatting?
[09:41] <cables> !msgthebot | |ericsson|
[09:41] <ubotu> |ericsson|: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:41] <T`> Jonah, what about vmware?
[09:41] <Mitsuo> tonyrl1988: i have tried to define host.cpukHz but it has not yeilded useful.. and it was fine a few days ago...
[09:41] <RedRum> http://www.onlinenetgames.com/content/pictures/1331f5650e005b8c9cab5e7543cb31e4.jpg
[09:41] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:41] <bbrazil> Jonah: in that case you need all the memory you can get
[09:42] <Wavesonics> how do I get my messages to stand out for the person I am typing them to like you guys do for me?
[09:42] <bbrazil> Wavesonics: username: message
[09:42] <Mitsuo> tonyrl1988: my cpu is pentium d 2.8 btw..
[09:42] <Wavesonics> ah, thx
[09:42] <ompaul> Wavesonics, a function of the client
[09:42] <cables> Wavesonics, put their nick in front of the message
[09:42] <Jonah> bbrazil, even though some people seem to think that three sticks of more memory is worse than two sticks of less, somthing to do with flicking into single channel mode??
[09:42] <Wavesonics> figured
[09:42] <tonyr1988> Wavesonics: If you're using XChat, it has tab-completion
[09:42] <Wavesonics> oh very nice!
[09:42] <tonyr1988> Wavesonics: Just type the first few letters of the person's name, and hit Tab.
[09:42] <cables> Everything has tab completion
[09:42] <cables> Even Gaim I think...
[09:42] <bbrazil> Jonah: the difference is not likely to be noticable, if you're worried benchmark your app
[09:43] <bbrazil> Jonah: discussion without data is pointless
[09:43] <tonyr1988> cables: Really? Didn't know about Gaim. How does that work?
[09:43] <Wavesonics> So does any one know exactly what GART is?
[09:43] <cables> tonyr1988, Gaim has terrible IRC support
[09:43] <riaal> I have a problem! My linux boot up looks strange (splash screen) and when I press Ctrl+alt+F1 to open a terminal the screen turns gray  for some sec and then the monitor shuts down.. it has worked befor, I don't remeber doing anything that could mess this up =S
[09:43] <bbrazil> Jonah: if you really care about speed, you shouldn't use a virtual machine
[09:43] <cables> Wavesonics, are you tlaking about nVidia?
[09:43] <tonyr1988> cables: Oh, gotcha. I was thinking tab-completion for normal IMming. :) DIdn't see how that would be beneficial.  Grazie!
[09:44] <Jonah> bbrazil, so basically it' s not gonna be that noticeable really and is better to just have more ram?
[09:44] <sacater> hey, can anyone tell how I keep networking active, but disable wireless, so always off, even after reboot
[09:44] <bbrazil> Jonah: in general, yes
[09:44] <anna123> a scusate
[09:44] <bbrazil> !it | anna123
[09:44] <riaal> ompaul, sound strange, have a really ubuntu-overkill hardware setup.. what do you think is the problem then? graphic card?
[09:45] <rr_lap> all i need to apt-get is kubuntu-desktop to install kde right?
[09:45] <bbrazil> rr_lap: yip
[09:45] <kbrooks> I'd like to clear out all packages that DO NOT have a (in)direct dependence on ubuntu-desktop
[09:45] <ompaul> riaal, na it just reaches other parts of hardware - try a couple of live cds first
[09:45] <sacater> nope
[09:45] <ompaul> kbrooks, you telling me you don't know how to do that with your skills?
[09:45] <bbrazil> kbrooks: you'll also want anything depended on by ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-minimal
[09:46] <kbrooks> bbrazil, ok, that too
[09:46] <bbrazil> kbrooks: and linux-386 iirc
[09:46] <kbrooks> bbrazil, *sigh* and that too. but how do i do that?
[09:46] <riaal> ompaul, hm, strange
[09:46] <MaDiNfO_> hi
[09:46] <MaDiNfO_> foes anyone knows
[09:47] <MaDiNfO_> hi does last kubuntu
[09:47] <bbrazil> kbrooks: unless you're really tight on space I woulnd't bother. You're more likely to break somethign than anything else
[09:47] <MaDiNfO_> doesnt turn of  when we told himto do it ?
[09:47] <kbrooks> bbrazil, okay
[09:47] <centrinel> ubuntu-minimal huh? what if i already on ubuntu-desktop. must have to remove ubuntu-desktop first or just install ubuntu-minimal ?
[09:47] <bbrazil> kbrooks: the generic answers are deborphan and debfoster, don't know how they translate to ubuntu meta packages
[09:47] <kbrooks> centrinel, it was to me, not you
[09:48] <centrinel> i am ask everyone on here. can you answer me?
[09:48] <Jonah> bbrazil, ok i've tried booting with 3 sticks in but my system is ok for a bit then will just lock up, been swapping mem modules around to try isolate a bad one but can't seem to....
[09:48] <Blazingazn> Hey
[09:48] <bbrazil> Jonah: try one at a time and memtest86
[09:48] <Blazingazn> Anyone willing to help a noob lol
[09:48] <bbrazil> Jonah: should be a boot option, if not it's on the livecd
[09:48] <|ericsson|> Any hints to what cause the GUI nfts-configuration not to start?
[09:48] <bbrazil> !ask | Blazingazn
[09:48] <ubotu> Blazingazn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:48] <Blazingazn> Alright =P
[09:48] <Blazingazn> Well im try to partition
[09:48] <Blazingazn> And i dual booted before
[09:49] <Blazingazn> But i recovered my windows
[09:49] <Blazingazn> And now im missing half my HD
[09:49] <ompaul> !enter Blazingazn
[09:49] <ompaul> !enter |  Blazingazn
[09:49] <ubotu> Blazingazn: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:49] <tim167> what sign do i put between two commands if i want the second one to wait for the first one to finish ? was it  "&&" or "&" ?
[09:49] <Blazingazn> How do i move unallocated memory to my main local disk c
[09:49] <centrinel> &&
[09:50] <tim167> thanks centrinel
[09:50] <Puppy_> I want to buy a sip phone that works in ubuntu. Is there any easy way to check if it will work? I want one like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/PHILIPS-VOIP3211-Internet-DECT-phone-Retail-VOIP3211_W0QQitemZ280103585686QQcmdZViewItem
[09:51] <bbrazil> tim167: ;
[09:51] <Blazingazn> I'm using partitionmagic anybody know how to nove unallocated memory and join it with another primary like local disk C for windows
[09:51] <bbrazil> tim167: assuming you don't care about the exit status of the first command
[09:51] <centrinel> get gparted if you sucks with cli
[09:51] <foxiness> if i have editor x what i get form 3rd party,and this package 'deb' now update with new ver when now i want to install new one ,this i will act like an update/upagrde,or i need to remove the old ver first ?
[09:51] <ompaul> Blazingazn, that is a partition magic question not a ubuntu question we would not support it here
[09:51] <tim167> bbrazil ok cool then i can use that
[09:51] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: well, you were right about dhclient, there are two of them running, one on eth0 and one on eth1
[09:51] <SoulRaven> i got this error....when i boot from cd........"Some Things, such as theme, sounds or background setting may not work correctly" GNOME........etc....help....
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: any idea why it has a dhclient running on a static device ?
[09:52] <Blazingazn> Trying to repartition though
[09:52] <Wavesonics> i hate ATI for linux :(
[09:52] <Xyhthyx> foxiness, you can install it without removing the old one.
[09:52] <ompaul> Blazingazn, it does not come with ubuntu so how weould we know :)
[09:52] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: you were messing around with your config?
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1
[09:52] <Wavesonics> I've tried everything in the world. DRI just wont work :(
[09:52] <Blazingazn> I want to join unallocated memory to a primary so i can repartitonj and re dual boot ubuntu
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: I have done ifdown -a since then, shouldn't that have closed any dhclients ?
[09:52] <foxiness> Xyhthyx: k then it will replace the old one ?
[09:52] <Xyhthyx> foxiness, yes.
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: I will try killing it off and then down and upping both of them and seeing if the problem reappears or is gone for good =)
[09:53] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: not nessecarily
[09:53] <foxiness> Xyhthyx: thanks a lot :)
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: thanks for your help
[09:53] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: if it think the interface is already down, it won't do anything
[09:53] <ompaul> Blazingazn, the ui for that program was easy 6 years ago when I last used it and we don't do it here no idea where you would get help for it
[09:53] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: -a is a tad dangerous due to that
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: eth1 and eth0 are both ifup'ed
[09:54] <techjim> Hi room.  my kiba-dock makes 1/4th of my desktop black.  Any solutions?
[09:55] <LordTureis> techjim: you're running beryl or compiz, right?
[09:56] <techjim> LordTureis: Neither.  Do I need them?  My ole tnt m64 had some complications with beryl.  Is compiz more stable?
[09:56] <m1r> ubuntu 7.04, upgrade: change config file /etc/login.defs ???
[09:57] <beni_> how to compare two files?
[09:57] <beni_> i mean show differences between them
[09:57] <T`> diff
[09:57] <VictorE> diff
[09:57] <Xyhthyx> diff
[09:57] <Xyhthyx> lol.
[09:57] <VictorE> :-)
[09:57] <beni_> =D
[09:57] <beni_> love ya
[09:58] <bbrazil> beni_: cmp
[09:58] <centrinel> strcmp
[09:58] <malcome> hi
[09:58] <centrinel> hahah
[09:58] <Mitsuo> Q: i am running ubuntu atm, i wanna add winxp to my sys, i presume that if i will, ms boot loader will boot away my grum, how can i launch ubuntu after that?
[09:58] <malcome> hello?
[09:59] <tomy-burn> hi i have a file.avi i want to burn it, can i burn it and see it on my dvd
[09:59] <Mitsuo> Q: i am running ubuntu atm, i wanna add winxp to my sys, i presume that if i will, ms boot loader will boot away my grum, how can i launch ubuntu after that?
[09:59] <PriceChild> !fixgrub | Mitsuo
[09:59] <ubotu> Mitsuo: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:59] <malcome> tomy-burn put it onto an iso
[09:59] <Gabber836> .
[09:59] <stifler> hi to all
[10:00] <tomy-burn> i burn as iso my dvd did not play it
[10:00] <Gabber836> Test
[10:00] <stifler> does anyone have the MUSIC BOX mp3 player?by telesystem
[10:00] <PriceChild> !offtopic | stifler
[10:00] <LordTureis> techjim: yes, you need one of them.  I'm not sure if one is more stable than the other, though.  There still seems to be some debate on that.  It seems to vary from computer to computer.   though on a tnt m64?  I'm not sure either beryl or compiz will run on that.
[10:00] <ubotu> stifler: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:01] <stifler> but...it's interest of everybody. it's a non supported mp3..(for now)
[10:01] <mao_> is there a driver for my s3 trio 64 3d video card that will run opengl at an acceptable speed?
[10:02] <techjim> LordTureis: Believe it or not, the card is on the official list of supported cards, although I've spent a couple hours on the beryl boards
[10:02] <techjim> LordTureis: What about xcompmgr?  Will that composition manager work?
[10:02] <Rictoo|SLP> How would I get Ubuntu to redetect my monitor?
[10:03] <rasmus_> When I try to play a DVD in Totem, it says that some plugins are missing - where do I find these plugins?
[10:03] <rellik> I have been doing some setup on my fiesty and now when I reboot it stops on the black "ubuntu" loading screen, with the progess bar about at 50%
[10:03] <centrinel> rasmus_: you can find it by synaptic
[10:03] <centrinel> just my suggestion. like i did before. another is using apt-cache or aptitude
[10:04] <rasmus_> centrinel: thanks, but I've allready tried, but I can't seem to find it- do you you by any chance know the name of the package?
[10:04] <tomy-burn> hi i have a file.avi i want to burn it, can i burn it and see it on my dvd
[10:04] <Gabber921> .
[10:04] <LordTureis> techjim: sry, I don't know for sure, but http://www.kiba-dock.org/components/com_mambowiki/index.php?title=Installing_Kiba-Dock seems to indicate that xcompmgr would work
[10:04] <blueflops> Hi guys, anyone here knows a way to create a bootable floppy with ubuntu inside, to fix some configuration in ubuntu which made it unbootable? (no cd-rom, so I can't use the livecd)
[10:04] <centrinel> no~ sorry.
[10:04] <techjim> LordTureis: oh nice thanks for that link.
[10:05] <blueflops> Or know of a good linux floppy distro for this?
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: okay, so something screwy is going on.  I ifdown'ed everything, then closed the dhclient on eth1, as it had been left behind.  then I ifup'ed lo eth0 eth1, and it seemed fine, only dhclient on eth0 as it should be
[10:05] <rellik> I have been doing some setup on my fiesty and now when I reboot it stops on the black "ubuntu" loading screen, with the progess bar about at 50%..  any ideas how to figure out what's wrong?
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: but then ten seconds later, dhclient was running on eth1 as well, removing the IP for it
[10:05] <BU_> Hi guys, my system hangs up after choosing any option from the ubuntu`s menu when I boot from ubuntu`s dick, what can you say about this?
[10:05] <centrinel> i got a problem where i cant play wmv file and solved after installing klmcodec. hehe, and thats a different situation isn't,
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: the eth0 that is supposed to have DHCP has this process running: dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[10:06] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: looks about right
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: and the one that isn't supposed to be running has: /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth1.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth1.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth1
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: that's the phantom process that keeps respawning out of nowhere
[10:07] <mao_> blueflops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:07] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: what's its PPID?
[10:07] <tomy-burn> hi i have a file.avi i want to burn it, can i burn it and see it on my dvd
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: one sec, checking ..
[10:07] <mao_> blueflops: worked for me
[10:07] <TabulaRasa_> hello. i need a small kick in the ass to come to a solution with ubuntu feisty fawn. its running on a notebook with internal cardreader, and everything works fine, as long as the card is inside of that reader while booting. is there any GUI for mountin / unmounting cards?
[10:08] <Milage> Hi guys
[10:08] <Milage> Are there plugins for Amarok that enables me to play midi files?
[10:08] <Milage> And/or other less common format
[10:08] <Milage> formats*
[10:09] <dyrne> TabulaRasa_: can you unplug/replug the card and then dmesg | tail   does sda or sdb or whatever show up?
[10:09] <TabulaRasa_> lemme test it.
[10:09] <LuisGMarine> Hello, I created a custom partition for my music, but when I try to save files to it, it says that it can't find it, even though its listed as a partition
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: its parent is: /usr/sbin/dhcdbd --system
[10:10] <dyrne> LuisGMarine: is it formatted and mounted?  try 'mount' command
[10:10] <TabulaRasa_> now, thats funny. now that i booted with the card inside, i can unplug it and plug it in again.
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: I am not too sure where that program is coming from, it's something about dbus
[10:10] <TabulaRasa_> before, i plugged it in and nothing happened.
[10:10] <dyrne> LuisGMarine: if so its just a problem with write access
[10:10] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: that's beyond my knowledge then
[10:10] <dyrne> TabulaRasa_: ive heard people report similar thing but never ran into it myself
[10:11] <TabulaRasa_> hmmmmm.
[10:11] <Samus_Aran> the apt-cache search says "D-Bus interface to the ISC DHCP client"
[10:11] <TabulaRasa_> first i thought my card reader maybe isnt supported, now this teaches me better.
[10:11] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: I will try apt-get removing it and see what happens =)
[10:12] <BU_> Did somebody experience the same problem as mine?
[10:12] <Milage> Does any of you know if there is a midi plugin for amarok?
[10:12] <TabulaRasa_> okay, at least now i know a workaround, thats better than nothing. thanks for the hint with just trying it :)
[10:12] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: probably a bad idea. dbus is heavily integrated into gnome
[10:12] <TabulaRasa_> in the future i will always boot with a card in the slot ^^
[10:12] <dyrne> TabulaRasa_: :)
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: yeah, darn.  it tells me it will have to remove: network-manager network-manager-gnome
[10:12] <nolan_> does anyone know how to set the default programs for specific file extensions?
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: perhaps there is a setting in network-manager which is overriding /etc/network/interfaces
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> I figured they would use the same config.  not smart to have two separate network configurations
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> nolan_: in which file manager ?
[10:14] <nolan_> what do you mean?
[10:14] <nolan_> sorry, i am new to ubuntu
[10:14] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: this is why I use network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant :)
[10:14] <Samus_Aran> nolan_: e.g. Nautilus is the default for Gnome
[10:14] <nolan_> oh, okay
[10:14] <eden> hiya. I got a question, how can I overide the 'panel size' detected by the nv drivers? Currently it is detecting the wrong panel size (too small!)
[10:14] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: I think a dpkg-reconfigure network-manager will let you diable it
[10:14] <Samus_Aran> bbrazil: I will try that out, thanks
[10:15] <nolan_> i believe thats what i use.  it says that when i boot
[10:15] <data> hi. i am installing (k)ubuntu for a few friends of mine here. problem: A proxy
[10:15] <data> apt tries to honor http_proxy but fails blatantly
[10:15] <data> saying: "can't connect to 3128:80"
[10:16] <bbrazil> data: I'd suggest disconnecting the network during the install (assuming fomr cd)
[10:16] <data> probably mistaking it for some kind of ipv6-address
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> nolan_: in Nautilus, you just right-click on a file, then select "Open with other application"
[10:16] <data> bbrazil: well, i installed it using some vpn tricks
[10:16] <nolan_> oh, okay.  will it set it as the default then?
[10:16] <zabin> hey
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> nolan_: then you choose the program from the list, or if it isn't in the list, type in the name in the bottom.  there should be a checkbox for "always use this type" or something at the bottom
[10:16] <data> but now i can't update in kde cause adept doesn't honor any proxy-settings
[10:16] <bbrazil> data: put the proxy stuff in apt.conf
[10:16] <nolan_> oh, okay.  thanks a ton Samus_Aran
[10:17] <bbrazil> data: don't bother with any gui tools, they won't work
[10:17] <Samus_Aran> nolan_: welcome
[10:17] <Guest916> When my computer starts, after the bios load, it says "Varifiing DMI pool load......"
[10:17] <bbrazil> data: for gnome anyway
[10:17] <rellik> I tried to boot in "recovery mode" and after "Configuring network interfaces" I get "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!"..  any ideas what I should do?  I've been googling for a while but can't seem to figure it out
[10:17] <zabin> I am having some trouble getting my nvidia drivers to keep working on 7.04.
[10:17] <Chris_Swift> Anyone know where I can get Flash to play YouTube vids?
[10:17] <data> bbrazil: well, they are not that much of console guys, so when going home, they would have to change that back manually
[10:17] <data> well, synaptic works just finde for mee
[10:17] <gebruiker> hallo
[10:17] <bbrazil> data: ah, unauthenticated proxy?
[10:17] <data> and sets the proxy properly, even when using apt on the console
[10:17] <Guest916> Some please help
[10:17] <data> yeah
[10:17] <zabin> when i run glxgears i get this message "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:17] <zabin> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[10:17] <data> university here
[10:17] <centrinel> Chris_Swift: i used easyubuntu to fix it
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: it's unusable for authenticated. YOu should be able to convine it to work
[10:18] <LjL> !flash > Chris_Swift    (Chris_Swift, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:18] <data> any ideas for kde?
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: what's the proxy set to?
[10:18] <Chris_Swift> centrinel, EasyUbuntu? Is that in the default resps?
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: synaptic is the same for both
[10:18] <data> http_proxy in env?
[10:18] <cafe_> guys, i need to install windows on an another partition of my PC, and it will destroy my ubuntu's MBR, how can i reconstruct MBR, grub and get into my linux again?
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: yes
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: there's also a synaptic setting for it
[10:18] <mao_> Chris_Swift: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:18] <epok> hello
[10:18] <data> bbrazil: couldn't install anything, so i was stuck without synaptic in kubuntu
[10:18] <bbrazil> data: and an apt.conf setting
[10:18] <LjL> !grub > cafe_    (cafe_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:18] <centrinel> maybe. i get it from its site, and it uses medibuntu repo
[10:18] <data> i know
[10:19] <data> and it's proxy.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de:3128
[10:19] <blueflops> ls
[10:19] <blueflops> ls
[10:19] <centrinel> ah. mao_ has answered the things you need
[10:19] <LjL> blueflops: try in a terminal
[10:19] <malcome> gtg
[10:19] <bbrazil> data: ah, there's you problem. put http:// in front of it
[10:19] <zabin> does anyone know how to get nvidia drivers working?
[10:19] <Guest916> When my computer starts, after the bios load, it says "Varifiing DMI pool load......"
[10:19] <LjL> !nvidia > cabin    (cabin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:19] <data> ok?
[10:19] <data> will try
[10:19] <data> thanks for the time being
[10:19] <Milage> Is it possible to configure the "Sound Juicer CD Extractor" application to encode files using the LAME encoder?
[10:19] <data> so i should use synaptic under kde?
[10:20] <Puppy_> I want to buy this for my computer: http://cgi.ebay.com/PHILIPS-VOIP3211-Internet-DECT-phone-Retail-VOIP3211_W0QQitemZ280103585686QQcmdZViewItem      How do I tell if it is compatible with Ubuntu?
[10:20] <LjL> !hardware > Puppy_    (Puppy_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:20] <cafe_> cheers!
[10:20] <JP_P_home> rkhunter
[10:20] <Guest916> When my computer starts, after the bios load, it says "Varifiing DMI pool load......"
[10:20] <bbrazil> data: it should work for you
[10:21] <Puppy_> LjL: Thanks!
[10:21] <arcad3> !blender
[10:21] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[10:21] <tomy-burn> hi i have a file.avi i want to burn it, can i burn it and see it on my dvd
[10:21] <data> bbrazil: sorry, disconnected
[10:21] <zabin> ubotu: thats not my problem i have them installed but it keeps getting added to the restrestriced driver list and unenabled everytime i restart the computer
[10:21] <usamahashimi> hello everyone!
[10:21] <tomy-burn> hi i have a file.avi i want to burn it, can i burn it and see it on my dvd
[10:21] <Milage> tomy-burn: that depends
[10:21] <Milage> on your DVD player
[10:21] <fraggle_> !sshd
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sshd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <usamahashimi> can anyone guide me that how can i enable dma?
[10:22] <fraggle_> !ssh
[10:22] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:22] <tomy-burn> i burned as data my dvd player did not played
[10:22] <Milage> You can only play an AVI file on your DVD player if it supports divx or xvid
[10:22] <JP_P_home> !france
[10:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:22] <dfgas> k, i have a ati all in wondering, i don't care about all the fancy stuff i just want to acceraated drivers installed, how do i, this is my first ati card i have delt wih.
[10:22] <Milage> or mpeg 4 in some cases
[10:22] <JP_P_home> enorme
[10:22] <JP_P_home> !spain
[10:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:22] <LjL> !botabuse | JP_P_home
[10:22] <ubotu> JP_P_home: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:22] <subdub> hi
[10:22] <dfgas> !ati
[10:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <subdub> anyone knows how I could select the digital audio output with ALSA ?
[10:23] <usamahashimi> !hdparm
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <JP_P_home> ok thanks
[10:23] <subdub> (on th eps3)
[10:23] <tomy-burn> no my dvd player does not play divx
[10:23] <LjL> !info hdparm > usamahashimi
[10:23] <tomy-burn> does this mean it will not play .avi files
[10:23] <Samus_Ar1n> bbrazil: well, that was the problem ... gnome-network-manager has its own configuration settings for the network, it doesn't use /etc/network/interfaces directly ... >:-|
[10:23] <Milage> tomy-burn: avi files use several different codecs
[10:23] <Milage> usually, they are using the divx or xvid codec
[10:23] <RichiH> Samus_Aran: hi
[10:23] <dtrump> hey
[10:24] <RichiH> Samus_Aran: sorry for that, i am about to write email, too
[10:24] <Milage> if your DVD player cannot play either of these, it would be hard for you to make it work
[10:24] <tomy-burn> so what to do to be able to burn it and play it on my dvd player
[10:24] <dtrump> dunno
[10:24] <usamahashimi> LjL: thanks but how can i enable it permanently?
[10:24] <tomy-burn> do i need to convert this file
[10:24] <Milage> You would need to convert it to the DVD video format
[10:24] <Milage> I'm not sure what kind of program could do this, sorry
[10:24] <JP_P_home> LjL> what kind of bot is ubotu ?
[10:24] <tomy-burn> so is there any program on ubuntu i can download and convert this file
[10:24] <bbrazil> Samus_Aran: if you're still around in 12hours ask me again. I have the answer in work
[10:25] <SnapLin> lol i chuckleat your bann .....u sux
[10:25] <PriceChild> JP_P_home, supybot
[10:25] <JP_P_home> no ?
[10:25] <usamahashimi> !dma
[10:25] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[10:25] <Lacrymology> hey, does anyone here have uberyl working?
[10:25] <JP_P_home> so i will work again on mine :)
[10:25] <SnapLin> cmon bann me]
[10:25] <Milage> Simply converting the file isn't enough, I think. It needs to be written to the DVD in a special way
[10:25] <Samus_Aran> RichiH: do you mean about gnome-network-manager, or did I miss something when I disconnected ?
[10:25] <NekoSensei> hi room
[10:25] <SnapLin> more banns loil
[10:25] <tomy-burn> so is there any program on ubuntu i can download and convert this file
[10:25] <LjL> usamahashimi: i think /etc/hdparm.conf, but not entirely sure. there used to be a /etc/default/hdparm, but i don't seem to have that in feisty
[10:25] <dfgas> how do i get accerated drivers for a ati 7200 aio
[10:26] <Milage> tomy-burn: a quick search on synaptic gave me a result that might do the job
[10:26] <usamahashimi> LjL: do i have to add hdparm in system startup?
[10:26] <Samus_Aran> PriceChild: if someone is doing ban evasion, muting them works way, way better than a ban.  bans encourage them to come back, muting makes them feel sad, heh
[10:27] <Milage> search for dvd creator, and you should get it
[10:27] <tomy-burn> ok what did u search for
[10:27] <Lacrymology> or beryl on gnome, it should be the same
[10:27] <Milage> "dvd creator"
[10:27] <apollonius> hello, i'm playing with feisty livecd on a macbook...i think it got my resolution wrong, how can i be sure and fix?
[10:27] <LjL> usamahashimi: i don't know what you mean
[10:27] <Milage> it claims to be able to create DVDs out of avi and mpeg files
[10:27] <NekoSensei> I've tried to install netbeans, but give me some errors with ubuntu 7.04. some one had install it?
[10:27] <Milage> oh, mov files too
[10:28] <tomy-burn> whats the name of program
[10:28] <isidoro> hi
[10:28] <Milage> "Video DVD creator"
[10:28] <apollonius> hello, i'm playing with feisty livecd on a macbook...i think it got my resolution wrong, how can i be sure and fix?
[10:28] <usamahashimi> LjL: i check the file /etc/hdparm there are some settings about dma there but do i have to put hdparm in system startup so that everytime system starts, it automatically enables dma?
[10:29] <apollonius> screen resolution app doesn't list my native resolution
[10:29] <apollonius> xorg.conf blows my mind ;-)
[10:29] <Puppy_> I checked: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport  Is there another hardware compatibility web site I can check? (I have checked the Linux questions one already and it does not let me search the way I want to. What I am looking for is a SIP phone compatible with Ubuntu)
[10:29] <subdub> anyone hows to select audio output with alsa ?
[10:29] <subdub> I'd like to use the digital audio output of my sound card
[10:29] <mneten> apollonius: not sure how it works on a macbook, but my install wouldn't even let me use 1280x1024 until i installed drivers for my graphics card...
[10:29] <|ericsson|> would this be classed as ban-abuse? ;)
[10:30] <kbrooks> |ericsson|, dont question ops
[10:30] <apollonius> mneten: i imagine drivers are installed since compiz works fine
[10:30] <kbrooks> |ericsson|, you arent allowed to
[10:30] <SlimG> How do i detect what values I can supply to the "vga=" kernel parameter? so I can find the correct value for 1280x800 (widescreen), vga=ask doesn't mention resolutions
[10:30] <atomikuXP> I am currently logged into XFCE on ubuntu and I want to be able to get on this logged in desktop through VNC.. at the moment it's not working, just takes me to a white/black screen when I try to VNC into it
[10:30] <Samus_Aran> apollonius: the first screen on the startup of the livecd has an option to change the resolution
[10:31] <mneten> apollonius: have you checked the system>pref>screen res ? :)
[10:31] <kodge> Hi guys. ive recently just installed WINE. Now that ive installed wine im not 100% sure how to open the .exe file? I was wondering if someone could help...?
[10:31] <Samus_Aran> apollonius: F5 or something like that
[10:31] <PriceChild> kbrooks, please don't... it was in good jest and i enjoyed the comment :)
[10:31] <apollonius> mneten: yes
[10:31] <|ericsson|> kbrooks: I wouldn't want to question their authority since I've got no problems with them since they are doing what they are supposed to..
[10:31] <mneten> rad. i'm a n00b so i dont really know where else to look :)
[10:31] <apollonius> Samus_Aran, thanx...so just restart and hold f5?
[10:31] <Samus_Aran> SlimG: vga=ask is only for text mode.  for graphics mode, it depends on which Linux framebuffer driver you are using
[10:31] <kimiks> scusate come faccio ad andare al canale in italiano di ubuntu
[10:31] <kodge> Hi guys. ive recently just installed WINE. Now that ive installed wine im not 100% sure how to open the .exe file? I was wondering if someone could help...?
[10:31] <|ericsson|> mneten: the support forums is a good starting point for how-to guides
[10:32] <cjae> how do I search for more channel for my irc client on google and such and how doI add the servers
[10:32] <kdub432_> kodge do wine [something] .exe
[10:32] <gnomefreak> kodge: wine file.exe
[10:32] <cjae> channels
[10:32] <kodge> K ill try that guys.
[10:32] <kodge> brb
[10:32] <mneten> ericsson: yeah, thats how i got my wifi working, and my nvidia drivers working :) and beryl
[10:32] <Blazingazn> Does anybody know a good resource for installing nvidia drivers on the newst Ubuntu 7.04
[10:32] <|ericsson|> kodge: visit #winehq, but an easy way is to do: wine name-of-application-extentsion
[10:32] <vox754> !it > kimiks
[10:32] <askand> Can anyone look at this graph over my batterytime and try to figure out what happens?
[10:32] <askand> http://askar.freehostia.com/okng.png
[10:32] <mneten> blazingazn: got it working using envy
[10:32] <kdub432_> kodge, what program are you trying to run?
[10:33] <kodge> WoW.exe, those who are not familiar, its a vidoe game
[10:33] <SlimG> Samus_Aran: Could you tell me what to do to get correct boot resolution? (got ubuntu feisty)
[10:33] <kodge> Video*
[10:33] <|ericsson|> kodge: wine has support for WoW, don't worry :)
[10:33] <Samus_Aran> SlimG: you need to read the documentation for the kernel, or guess.  read the files in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb I think it is
[10:33] <pyrops> what does .. extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:33] <pyrops>  .. mean??
[10:33] <Samus_Aran> SlimG: it has a list of the modes, at least for vesafv
[10:33] <kdub432_> right. wine is *supposed to be able to do world of warcraft....make sure your video is set up right though
[10:33] <Samus_Aran> *vesafb
[10:34] <cjae> need to find more damn small linux and puppy linux channels
[10:34] <Samus_Aran> SlimG: if you're using nvidia framebuffer or something else, you need to find the documentation for that specific kernel module
[10:34] <kdub432_> i've never had much luck with wine and 3d applications... (thx ati..... haha)
[10:34] <kodge> Ericsson: Well I just tried what you told me to do. and well, it didnt work, it said wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\WoW.exe": Module not found, but looking at this, its looking in the wrong palce
[10:34] <cjae> noob @ irc
[10:34] <Samus_Aran> SlimG: you may need to install kernel documentation to have that file, or view it on a web page
[10:34] <albert> guys i'm having some dificulties trying to set my screen resolutions, i read on the forums there i could edit it, but i'm not too sure where to find the refresh rate of my monitor, i assume that the refresh rates for my monitor are the synchronization range but i'm not completely sure can someone confirm this for me?
[10:34] <Blazingazn> What software should i use to put the ubuntu.iso to a CD
[10:34] <askand> Can anyone look at this graph over my batterytime and try to figure out what happens?
[10:34] <askand> http://askar.freehostia.com/okng.png
[10:35] <ompaul> Blazingazn,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[10:35] <subdub> anyone hows to select audio output with alsa ?
[10:35] <Samus_Aran> albert: monitors have two main settings: horizontal sync and vertical refresh rates
[10:35] <SlimG> thanks Samus_Aran, I'll look into it
[10:35] <kodge> Ericsson: Well I just tried what you told me to do. and well, it didnt work, it said wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\WoW.exe": Module not found, but looking at this, its looking in the wrong palce
[10:35] <Samus_Aran> albert: you can read your manual or go to the manufacturer's web site to get these values.  however, most modern monitors automatically communicate this information to the computer when X loads up
[10:36] <Samus_Aran> albert: the monitor needs to be turned on for this communication to happen, so don't boot up with the monitor still off
[10:36] <Samus_Aran> albert: also, Ubuntu might have filled in its own values that could be incorrect.  look in the X config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:37] <Samus_Aran> albert: it will be found in: Section "Monitor"
[10:37] <Samus_Aran> albert: for example I have these two lines in that section: "HorizSync    31.469 - 79.976" and "VertRefresh  56.250 - 75.062"
[10:38] <kodge> I was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help. Ive set up wine e.t.c and its working. Although when I type wine wow.exe it doesnt work. Its looking in the completely wrong folder. I was wondering if anyone knew how to make it change to the correct foldeR?
[10:40] <pyrops> extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:40] <pyrops>   <-- what does tha mean?
[10:40] <askand> Can anyone look at this graph over my batterytime and try to figure out what happens?
[10:40] <askand> http://askar.freehostia.com/okng.png
[10:42] <Absens> I can't get flash to work
[10:43] <smith> what part of flash ?
[10:43] <Absens> can't get the firefox plugin to install
[10:43] <smith> whats the errorcode ?
[10:44] <Absens> i'm not getting one, i've installed it manually, and with automatix.. firefox still reports that i'm missing the plugin
[10:44] <Absens> i'm confused
[10:45] <stefg> !automatix
[10:45] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:45] <smith> try the add/remove option and select the firefox-whatever-its-called option
[10:45] <SirSteven> !worksforme
[10:46] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:46] <cjae> ok what are other good networks besides frenode about linux and open source
[10:46] <lontra> hi i am getting the following make error ... http://www.pastebin.ca/488150   ... could someone check it out?
[10:46] <cjae> freenode
[10:46] <SirSteven> !install
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:47] <steven_> Hi
[10:47] <walrus> i have just readed that GIMP is specialized in raster graphics edition rather than vector graphics ... in other terms GIMP is more like photoshop rather thatn freehand/fireworks, what vector graphics editor is best suited for my case ?
[10:47] <stefg> !info inkscape
[10:47] <ubotu> inkscape: vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 10487 kB, installed size 45256 kB
[10:48] <nickrud> Absens, I've fallen back to having firefox install flash for me, it seems to work best
[10:48] <walrus> thx :)
[10:48] <apollonius> umm...so i looked at the intro screen for the livecd and the screen resolution picker still only gives nonwidescreen options...how do i change my resolution to a widescreen resolution?
[10:49] <Lacrymology> excuse me, I have a flash memory/mp3 player thingie and after plugging it in my new ubuntu, it won't work as an mp3 player
[10:49] <Lacrymology> anybody has any clues on this? ever happened before?
[10:49] <d2812> Can anybody here watch video on the BBC website in ubuntu?
[10:49] <SlimeyPete> Lacrymology: did you format it? If so, it might have been formatted as ext3 instead of FAT.
[10:49] <yeniklasor> hi, when was the latest ubuntu feisty update? I didn't see any update after when I upgrade the feisty. Am I wrong something?
[10:50] <Lacrymology> SlimeyPete, no, I haven't
[10:50] <SlimeyPete> yeniklasor: I haven't noticed any updates since release
[10:50] <Lacrymology> Just plugged it in
[10:50] <yeniklasor> OK thanks
[10:50] <Lacrymology> it works as a flash memory, of course. Just the display stays dead and whatnot
[10:51] <XLV> Lacrymology, if it has a removable battery, try removing it and reinstalling it
[10:51] <rene> hello, can somebody says me how I can extend the run command dialog in gnome?
[10:51] <apollonius> hi, how does one change resolution in feisty livecd? system/preferences/screen resolution does not offer me my native widescreen resolution
[10:52] <smith> xorg.config should solve your problem
[10:52] <yeniklasor> And I want to boot my server to linux, can I manage it with remote desktop? Or only can I do ssh?
[10:52] <apollonius> xorg.conf blows my mind
[10:52] <Lacrymology> XLV, what would that accomplish?
[10:52] <Lacrymology> I think I need a firmware update or something like that.
[10:52] <smith> but im guessing a rebott will cause the system not to work .. so ..
[10:52] <XLV> Lacrymology, resetting the device
[10:53] <smith> reboot*
[10:53] <Samus_Aran> kodge: are you still stuck ?
[10:53] <Samus_Aran> kodge: winecfg will run the WINE setup program
[10:53] <Samus_Aran> kodge: and you need to keep in mind that all the windows programs need to be inside your virtual C drive, usually ~/.wine/drive_c or else look in ~/.wine/dosdevices/c:/
[10:53] <smith> maby by reseting X
[10:53] <nickrud> apollonius, I'd say you out of luck on the live cd; you can't edit xorg.conf and restart X. on it.
[10:54] <smith> ah
[10:54] <apollonius> can't restart X from livecd?
[10:54] <nickrud> apollonius, if my experience is still valid ;)
[10:54] <smith> oh X is started allright
[10:54] <Samus_Aran> kodge: if you want to run a Windows program from outside that folder, you can symlink to it, or add another drive in ~/.wine/dosdevices/ to point to the folder where your files are
[10:55] <Samus_Aran> kodge: for example, to add a D: drive you could do: ln -s /mnt/windows/games/wow ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:
[10:55] <Lacrymology> and.. why doesn't my ubuntu play mp3? Is it normal for default install not to be able to play mp3 OR wav files?
[10:56] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: MP3, yes.  WAV, no.
[10:56] <nickrud> !restricted
[10:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:56] <Samus_Aran> at least I've never heard of any WAV file issues before
[10:57] <crevette> hi there
[10:57] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, yes what? yes is it normal for it *not* to work?
[10:57] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: correct
[10:58] <crevette> I'm running gutsy, and it seems that my second drive (sdb1) is viewed like my first
[10:58] <atomikuXP> I am currently logged into XFCE on ubuntu and I want to be able to get on this logged in desktop through VNC.. at the moment it's not working, just takes me to a white/black screen when I try to VNC into it
[10:58] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, still not playing .wav s
[10:58] <crevette> from the disk tools it has the same partitions (where it has not)
[10:58] <Lacrymology> meh, the whole having linux without internet is quite a pain
[10:58] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: MP3 unfortunately has patents, and many GNU/Linux distros don't like preinstalling it, as their is the risk of a lawsuit.  just view the URL above, it tells you how to add all sorts of restricted formats like RealMedia, WindowsMedia and MP3
[10:58] <FarrisG>  Grub is booting from a boot partition that, for some reason, I can't figure out how to read once the kernel has booted. This box was originally a CentOS box with a software RAID, and one partition of the first drive not raided for boot. But Ubuntu was installed onto the re-formatted partitions, left as is, and now I cannot install grub. The old CentOS Grub is still there and will actually boot the Ubuntu root, with the old CentOS kernel. But once don
[10:58] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: you don't have Internet why ?
[10:59] <shadeofgrey> damnit to hell -- i cant stand not having ubuntu
[10:59] <Samus_Aran> s/their/there/
[10:59] <Samus_Aran> shadeofgrey: so get ubuntu ?
[10:59] <shadeofgrey> somebody has to talk me through how to install it onnmy macbookpro
[10:59] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, because I live in a 3rd world country and internet connection is not completely out of league, but not in my basic needs list
[10:59] <Lacrymology> getting a connection soon, tho
[11:00] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: so how are you on the Internet right now ?
[11:00] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: school ?
[11:00] <shadeofgrey> i cant stand being ubuntuless for another second
[11:00] <Samus_Aran> shadeofgrey: that looked disturbingly close to buttless
[11:00] <apollonius> can someone remind me where xorg.conf lives?
[11:00] <PriceChild> apollonius, /etc/X11
[11:00] <Samus_Aran> apollonius: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:00] <PriceChild> apollonius, case sensitive ;)
[11:00] <apollonius> thanx pricechild
[11:01] <Samus_Aran> apollonius: in future if you forget where something is, a good way to search for it is: locate xorg.conf
[11:01] <kaukx> are there any good LAN chat software for linux ?
[11:01] <smith> wall
[11:01] <apollonius> Samus_Aran: thanx...will remember
[11:01] <smith> just type wall
[11:02] <ubuntu> Hey, I have linux live CD running on an HP laptop. I mounted the windows drive with read only permissions, then i hooked up an external firewire drive that I want to backup the windows files to. However, ubuntu (6.06) is mounting the drive with only read permissions and I don't know how to change that
[11:02] <FarrisG> Is there any way from the grub command line to tell exactly what partition grub is being run from?
[11:02] <Samus_Aran> ubuntu: which filesystem ?
[11:02] <Samus_Aran> FarrisG: when grub starts, pressing E will edit the command line used
[11:03] <apollonius> how do i restart X, if it doesn't restart because it's a livecd then oh well
[11:03] <Samus_Aran> FarrisG: it will have the (hd0,0) or whatever it is in that line, read from the menu.lst file
[11:03] <albert> alright i tested the x server and it worked fine
[11:03] <pokerface> hey can someone help me with something quick? i want to add stuff to the computer://
[11:04] <Samus_Aran> albert: did you restart the X server to use the new settings now ?
[11:04] <Samus_Aran> albert: (log out then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace on the login screen to reload it)
[11:04] <shadeofgrey> i dont understand something
[11:04] <dope> i have a laptop have I have the server edition running on. how do I get the card reader to work?
[11:04] <oxy-cotton-ball> !botsnack
[11:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[11:04] <albert> alright
[11:04] <dak> anyone know why some realmedia files play in ubuntu 64 and some done? the files work fine on my other debian box that is 32 bit...
[11:05] <albert> be right back
[11:05] <shadeofgrey> if macs are nothing more than PC's with a better OS then why is installation of ubuntu not as painless as installing it onmy dads dell
[11:05] <shadeofgrey> ?
[11:05] <mads-> I just installed xubuntu on top of normal ubuntu (sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop). Internet just won't work from scratch. What to do?? :S
[11:05] <PriceChild> mads-, you're not telling us something.
[11:05] <Samus_Aran> dope: if you're not in X with automatic tools, you just need to mount it as a hard drive
[11:05] <Samus_Aran> dope: it will show up as a SCSI hard drive, usually with VFAT filesystem
[11:05] <mads-> PriceChild: What do you mean?
[11:05] <PriceChild> mads-, do you normally connect using the network manager applet?
[11:05] <ElectricMonk> i've changed some permissions by accident, and need help in returning them to normal
[11:05] <Samus_Aran> dope: for example /dev/sda1
[11:05] <mads-> PriceChild: Yes sir, I do :)
[11:05] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, work
[11:05] <dope> Samus_Aran: so it'll be in /dev
[11:06] <PriceChild> mads-, wireless?
[11:06] <thadeus> hi
[11:06] <Samus_Aran> dope: check dmesg when you plug it in, it will tell you what device it is
[11:06] <Audio_1> i updated from 6.10 to 7.04 and now i am unable to delete/modify files. It says "read-only file system." what can i do?
[11:06] <mads-> PriceChild: Nope, wired..
[11:06] <DeadBird> hi. when i cfdisk /dev/hda  this message comes out :  FATAL ERROR: Bad logical partition 7: enlarged logical partitions overlap   Press any key to exit cfdisk
[11:06] <Samus_Aran> dope: dmesg |tail -n 50
[11:06] <dope> kk
[11:06] <thadeus> is there anyone here who use kiba-dock ???
[11:06] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, I work for a living, and pay my rent, and schooling, and food and etcetera etcetera
[11:06] <PriceChild> mads-, you can just type "nm-applet" in a terminal or somewhere to start the applet... but with a wired network it should just work fine. Try "sudo dhclient" in a terminal and see if it works then?
[11:06] <Lacrymology> and have been able to make my computer work after a long time
[11:06] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: yep, it is quite understandable.  Internet many places in the world is way too expensive
[11:06] <ElectricMonk> i try to log in, and it tells me the .dmrc needs to be owned by the user and have 644 permissions
[11:07] <Lacrymology> Samus_Aran, not TOO expensive.. just not on the top of the list, you know
[11:07] <Lacrymology> anyways
[11:07] <dope> Samus_Aran: it says SD card detected in socket 3
[11:07] <PriceChild> ElectricMonk, ctrl+alt+f1, then sudo chown user:user /home/user/.dmrc (replacing user with your username)
[11:07] <yeniklasor> Can I remote desktop between ubuntu server edition and my ubuntu desktop edition?
[11:07] <PriceChild> ElectricMonk, sudo chmod 664 /home/user/.dmrc
[11:07] <mads-> PriceChild: It tells me something about adding "madsravn-laptop" (name of the computer) to /etc/hosts . is that any hint?
[11:07] <FarrisG> Samus_Aran: Right, but I want to know where that menu.lst file is, because it's not in the boot/grub directory of the root file system. There is a boot partition that I can't seem to find/read once booted into ubuntu
[11:07] <PriceChild> ElectricMonk, exit and then ctrl+alt+f1
[11:07] <ElectricMonk> ctrl+alt+f1 opens the terminal?
[11:08] <PriceChild> mads-, Shouldn't have to touch that and I'd be scared to...
[11:08] <gn0me> Anyone ever have random parts of the screen just.. not draw. Like Pidgin or a terminal, some menus in Firefox.. they make the actual shape, but don't write the fonts.
[11:08] <mads-> PriceChild: Hmm.. strange.. Why would it then be telling me to do so?
[11:08] <PriceChild> mads-, I'm not sure... what's telling you that?
[11:08] <Samus_Aran> Lacrymology: I was in the Philippines for a year, and it surprised me that a slow and buggy DSL connection cost around 20% more than an extremely fast and stable connection here in Canada (and it's even cheaper in the USA)
[11:09] <Samus_Aran> FarrisG: did you create a /boot partition when you installed ?
[11:09] <shane_> Hi guys, is there any prettier desktop interfaces? Like the taskbar etc.
[11:09] <shane_> Any that look better?
[11:09] <mads-> PriceChild: When I log in from login screen, a box pops up telling me that it couldn't connect to the internet and I should add the name to /etc/hosts
[11:09] <nonZero> Samus_Aran:  thank you for your explanation, I'm back :-)
[11:09] <ryan__> Good afternoon everyone. Quick question for you.. I just got Ubuntu installed, and I use a program called "Synergy" quite a bit. I dont have a keyboard / mouse hooked up most of the time (Laptop on external display with cover closed)... How can I auto-start synergy BEFORE the login manager? I dont want to have to move my monitor and open the laptop every time I login.
[11:09] <PriceChild> mads-, i don't know sorry
[11:09] <atomikuXP> How can I use FreeNX server + NXclient (v1.5) to logon to an existing XFCE4 session?
[11:09] <nonZero> Samus_Aran:  seems like all controls ok, but no output from mic :-(
[11:09] <mads-> PriceChild: I will just log out from gnome and try out your advice till now :) thanks for your time...
[11:10] <shane_> Hello?
[11:10] <shane_> Anyone know?
[11:10] <nickrud> ryan__, you could add it to /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:10] <FarrisG> Samus_Aran: *I* did not, but there already was one. When grub starts, it's the stock CentOS grub screen, and it references a CentOS kernel, and will even boot that kernel. But all of the OS fileystems now have ubuntu on them. I just can't tell where that /boot partition is
[11:10] <ryan__> nickrud: Will that start it before X though? It must have "X.Org" running when it starts up.
[11:10] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: as I was saying, you won't hear anything unless you unmute and turn up the {mic output volume} and the {mic input volume}, which have random names with ALSA
[11:11] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: and you also need to set the recording source to mic
[11:11] <shane_> Hello?
[11:11] <nickrud> ryan__, ah. is it ok if it simply starts after you log in, without interaction?
[11:11] <shane_> Anyone tell me how to spice up my interface? Add more colour make it look more graphical? I'm using GNOME :/
[11:11] <ZZsputnik> shane may edubuntu? icons?
[11:11] <ZZsputnik> be
[11:11] <shane_> hold up
[11:11] <mon^rch> where is it that I set to report which programs and settings I use... ?
[11:11] <shane_> edubuntu?
[11:11] <thadeus> no one use kiba dock here ??
[11:12] <ZZsputnik> it has nice icons
[11:12] <ryan__> I use a graphical login manager. The default with Ubuntu. I just want the app to open when the login manager starts. So I can login with my normal keyboard / mouse (Attached to a 2nd computer)
[11:12] <Xyhthyx> I can't figure out why I get a warning on boot "AC'97 1 access is not valid [0xffffffff] , removing mixer. ali mixer 1 creating error"
[11:12] <shane_> Do I have to upgrade?
[11:12] <shane_> You know the bar at the top Applications, Places, System etc. it's grey and boring I'm fed up with it!
[11:12] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: for example on my soundcard I have to adjust TWO controls just to turn up the mic recording volume, I think mine are "IEC958 AC97 1 [dB gain=mute, mute] " and "ADC [dB gain=mute, mute] "
[11:12] <nickrud> ryan ok, I get it. a sec
[11:12] <kaukx> which package provides libqt.so.2 ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:12] <nonZero> Samus_Aran:  Capture=100<>100, mic as O=[OO]  , imput source=Mic
[11:12] <ryan__> shane_: Have you tried different themes?
[11:12] <albert> alright i got it ^^
[11:12] <albert> thanks alot !
[11:12] <ZZsputnik> !icons
[11:12] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:12] <Xyhthyx> kaukx, easy on the ?'s heh
[11:12] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: unfortunately with ALSA drivers, every soundcard has different named items, and they often are not clear at all
[11:13] <ryan__> shane_:  Or you can also disable that pannel and have a single one at the bottom. Much like windows.
[11:13] <kaukx> :)
[11:13] <shane_> ryan_: Where do I find them?
[11:13] <Samus_Aran> albert: did you get your monitor behaving how you wanted ?
[11:13] <ryan__> System -> Prefrences -> Themes
[11:13] <shane_> ryan__:Different themes that is. Plus I messed up the bar at the bottom, I closed it and reopened it and
[11:13] <shane_> ok
[11:13] <mon^rch> shane_: dude... here: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/LiNsta+3+%28Linux+is+Not+Vista%29?content=44570
[11:14] <ElectricMonk> back, i didnt expect to be logged out to the command line, can someone give me the command for the change mod on the .dmrc again please?
[11:14] <mon^rch> shane_: that is an awesome theme for ubuntu
[11:14] <MikeReiner> If I have two devices showing up as ALSA mixers.. could that cause problems regarding sound?
[11:14] <ZZsputnik> anyway edubuntu icons are cool too
[11:14] <kaukx> xythyx,just trying to run lan chat,some crap missing
[11:14] <roo_> MikeReiner, what problems are you having?
[11:14] <MikeReiner> roo_ distorted sounds in games
[11:15] <atomikuXP> I am currently logged into XFCE on ubuntu and I want to be able to get on this logged in desktop through VNC.. at the moment it's not working, just takes me to a white/black screen when I try to VNC into it
[11:15] <MikeReiner> roo_ I tried changing sound cards, but it was exactly the same
[11:15] <roo_> MikeReiner, i doubt it. are they both internal sound cards?
[11:15] <MikeReiner> roo_ well the thing is, I'm using onboard for sound, but the 2nd alsa mixer is actually my TVTuner/media card
[11:15] <roo_> MikeReiner, the easiest way to tell is to take the tv card out i'd say.
[11:15] <shane_> monarch how do i install it?
[11:15] <imbecile> can someone explain what mythtv is? like do i need a dvb card for it? can I watch movie channel? do i even know what i'm talking about?
[11:16] <MikeReiner> roo_ Yeah the thought just crossed my mind
[11:16] <ElectricMonk> is it sudo user:user /home/user/.dmrc
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> imbits the opensource answer to TiVo
[11:16] <MikeReiner> roo_ if I could get UT04 to run just how I like it.. i'd probably reboot into windows about half as much as I do lol
[11:16] <nickrud> ryan__, rc local seems to have disappeared ;( So, add a script to /etc/init.d/ (say synergy) and link to it in rc2.d (say S99synergy) . The canonical way is to use update-rc.d to add that link. That will start after X
[11:16] <shadeofgrey> imbecile, mythTV is the opensource equivelant to TiVo
[11:17] <ElectricMonk> sudo chmod user:user /home/user/.dmrc even
[11:17] <shadeofgrey> imbecile, it gives you the power to turn any linux desktop or lapto computer into a TiVo
[11:17] <imbecile> shadeofgrey, so its not for getting the channels themselves?
[11:18] <shane_> mon^rch: How do I install this?
[11:18] <ryan__> Thanks nickrud.. So I would create a simple text file with my command in it. Save it to /etc/init.d/S99synergy.. Then use ln /etc/init.d/S99synergy /etc/init.d/rc2.d? Or do I add a line in rc2.d? Sorry, newbie here :)
[11:18] <shane_> poo:lol
[11:18] <ryan__> And change permissions to +x on the txt file.
[11:18] <kane77> what could python do on my comp? (it's using 99% of my cpu and I'm not aware that I use python in anything...)
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: I recommend loading up Audacity and recording with that, it's easy to see if it is recording anything
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: then fiddle with the settings in alsamixer until you get a recording
[11:19] <mon^rch> shane_: did you download it?
[11:19] <Samus_Aran> kane77: most likely it is gdesklets, they use up tons of RAM and CPU too often =p
[11:20] <svengips> can you net commends in console linux??
[11:20] <nickrud> ryan__, close. you need short bash script, be sure to put     # /bin/bash      on the first line
[11:20] <__Ace__> whats wrong here: ace@ace-laptop:~/crosscompile/code$ i586-mingw32msvc-gcc -lversion  c.c
[11:20] <kane77> Samus_Aran, nah, not gdesklets (although thanx for reminding :) I forgot to install them after I reinstalled)
[11:20] <__Ace__> /tmp/ccOXPl8k.o:c.c:(.text+0x43): undefined reference to `_GetFileVersionInfoSizeA@8'
[11:20] <shane_> mon^rch I don't know how
[11:20] <nickrud> ryan__, and use ln -s  (I'd suggest reading up on update-rc.d)
[11:20] <shadeofgrey> imbecile, no.  to get thechannels themselves yoiu have to buy a hardware component known as a TV tuner
[11:20] <nonZero> Samus_Aran:  thank you - nothing works.  the mic is fine on a different PC
[11:20] <__Ace__> I unclude the version lib damnit
[11:20] <__Ace__> *include
[11:20] <Samus_Aran> kane77: anyhow, you can look at the details with 'top' or something like: \ps auxww|grep python
[11:21] <shadeofgrey> imbecile, and you need to make sure you buy one that is compatible with mythTV because many are not
[11:21] <shane_> mon^rch: I don't know how
[11:21] <mon^rch> shane_: check your pm
[11:21] <imbecile> shadeofgrey,  thanks.. they are really expensive huh?
[11:21] <svengips> I search polnish users
[11:21] <Samus_Aran> nonZero: I can assure you with 90% probability that it is simply doesn't have the volume up.  ALSA can be a real bitch to configure mics on, but they do work.  I've recorded a lot with mine
[11:21] <kane77> Samus_Aran, too late :) python is dead
[11:21] <Samus_Aran> kane77: heh
[11:21] <nickrud> ryan__, after reading closely: save the file as synergy, then ln -s /etc/init.d/synergy /etc/rc2.d/S99synergy
[11:21] <tehpunkprodigy> does anybody know the command to upgrade from edgy to fiesty, I lost graphics so i cannot do it from synaptic
[11:22] <godmaster> hello
[11:22] <Samus_Aran> tehpunkprodigy: apt-get update; apt-get distupgrade
[11:22] <mon^rch> shane_: there is a download link right there on the page... you want the one that says gtk
[11:22] <Samus_Aran> tehpunkprodigy: I think ..
[11:22] <kane77> Samus_Aran, it has been shot twice with -9 gun
[11:22] <ryan__> Thank you nickrud. I'll give it a go.
[11:22] <shadeofgrey> imbecile, no - not all are..  but they certainly can be if you go for a dual channel model with lots of buffer RAM and other speciual componmentys
[11:22] <tehpunkprodigy> ill try that, thanks
[11:22] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: I narrowed down the problem with the slow generic kernel
[11:22] <nickrud> ryan__, :)
[11:22] <misnix> !pl| svengips
[11:22] <ubotu> svengips: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[11:23] <godmaster> i need help with raid and mdadm who can help me please ? its very important 2 millions euros of data in  the disk
[11:23] <imbecile> shadeofgrey,  thanks for your help
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> Does anyone know if the Feisty on the Sony Vaio VGN-FE41Z actually supports the CPU's VT (virtualization) support? (There was a note on the Sony web-site saying "Vaio does not support VT" and I'm wondering if they've disabled it in BIOS)
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> mariah: that sounds unusual!
[11:23] <__Ace__> anyone?
[11:23] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: I know I'm still young as well!
[11:23] <svengips> thanx
[11:23] <IntuitiveNipple> woo hoo!
[11:23] <godmaster> i need help with raid and mdadm who can help me please ? its very important 2 millions euros of data in  the disk
[11:24] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: Problem is in processor,ko for generic
[11:24] <FarrisG> I guess in the simplest terms: This box is currently booted into a 2.6.9 CentOS kernel. Ubuntu linux is installed on the / partition, and the 2.6.9 kernel image does not exist anywhere on that filesystem. How do I determine where exactly that 2.6.9 kernel is?
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> mariah: I built custom-kernels for 2 of my notebook PCs and that helped them speed up generally, but there was no specific problem like you seem to have.
[11:24] <shane_> mon^rch:Help!
[11:24] <godmaster> please
[11:24] <IntuitiveNipple> mariah: I hope you document this on launchpad
[11:24] <shane_> mon^rch: I got it, now how do I install it?
[11:24] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: If I rmmod thermal.ko and processor.ko problem stops immediatly.
[11:25] <godmaster>  who knows raid and mdadm
[11:25] <godmaster> ?
[11:25] <shane_> I know mdma
[11:25] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: Where and how and I will.
[11:25] <godmaster> can y help me shane?
[11:25] <mon^rch> shane_: okay click system-->pref's--->theme
[11:25] <ElectricMonk> i need more help on the permissions of the .dmrc file
[11:25] <shane_> mon^rch:Done that
[11:25] <Samus_Aran> g'day all.  gotta get work done.  nonZero: and do trust me, as long as you plugged it into the right plug on the back of your soundcard, it can work fine if you set up alsamixer
[11:25] <mon^rch> shane_: then drag and drop the theme into the window that appears
[11:26] <IntuitiveNipple> mariah: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[11:26] <shane_> from the desktop?
[11:26] <atomikuXP> I am currently logged into XFCE on ubuntu and I want to be able to get on this logged in desktop through VNC.. at the moment it's not working, just takes me to a white/black screen when I try to VNC into it
[11:26] <mon^rch> shane_: yes
[11:26] <nonZero> Samus_Aran, thank you! dnight
[11:26] <shane_> Mon^rch:I extracted the tarball is that right or wrong?
[11:26] <nickrud> FarrisG, try sudo fdisk -l ; that will show all of the partitions you have. mount will show the ones that are mounted. It's on one of the unmounted, most likely
[11:26] <ryan__> nickrud: Sorry to keep bugging you. Thumbing through the man pages.. update-rc.d just creates sym links to my script for the different run levels? If that is so, why did I go through the trouble to manually symlink it to runlevel2? (Just trying to get a feel for linux still)
[11:26] <mon^rch> shane_: one sec... lemmee download it to see :/
[11:26] <guycook> 2 ? about ubuntu, can I use vmware 6 workstation on it as the host machine, and does it support nvidia video cards?
[11:26] <shane_> mon^rch:sorry
[11:27] <d2812> Anybody know what package is needed for asx playback?
[11:27] <nickrud> ryan__, well, it's a lot easier to just make one link by hand than to build the update-rc.d for a custom run level :)
[11:27] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I have a font included with The GIMP which is not with later versions. I've looked in the home/username/.gimp-2.2 folder but the fonts folder is empty? How can I find and copy the font to another PC?
[11:27] <Fogge> Hi, i need help recovering data that was thrown from the garbage bin in Feisty. Please PM.
[11:27] <ryan__> Gotcha :) Thanks again.
[11:27] <nickrud> *update-rc.d command line
[11:27] <HO1> so, whats the deal with ati and googlearth, anyone cracked it yet?
[11:27] <ryan__> Going to reboot to give it a whirl. Thanks again!
[11:27] <shane_> mon^rch:Okay, but I did not get the start bar and the terminal icon etc.
[11:28] <mon^rch> shane_: no dont extract it... just drag and drop the tarball into the theme window :)
[11:28] <shane_> mon^rch:balls.
[11:28] <shane_> mon^rch: So I want the GTK+Icons+Metacity?
[11:29] <Lacrymology> has anybody run Uberyl?
[11:29] <mon^rch> shane_: yes... you're using feisty, no?
[11:29] <shane_> mon^rch: No, echo
[11:29] <shane_> mon^rch 7.04
[11:29] <Lacrymology> something weird happened to my Beryl after updating it
[11:29] <shane_> think it's ehco
[11:29] <siloko> Anyone got Emerald Theme Manager to download new GPL themes - I always get a Tar error . . .
[11:29] <ElectricMonk_> hi all, can someone help with file permissions?
[11:29] <Goshawk> hi, how to change system language from terminal?
[11:30] <dtrump> dunno
[11:30] <nickrud> ElectricMonk_, maybe ;)
[11:30] <HO1> ohhhhh
[11:30] <mmdski> i'm having trouble with my ipw3945...
[11:30] <Lacrymology> uhm.. the taskbar froze...
[11:30] <Lacrymology> argh
[11:30] <HO1> this klik thing is interesting
[11:30] <Lacrymology> I can't change workspaces now!
[11:30] <ElectricMonk_> i log in and get the message the .dmrc file needs to be owned by the user and have 644 permissions
[11:30] <mon^rch> shane_: then you need to also sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[11:30] <mmdski> a really slow and seemingly unstable connection
[11:30] <Blazingazn> Hey what program do i use to put the ubuntu 7.04 iso onto a disk
[11:30] <nickrud> Lacrymology, try clt-alt left right
[11:31] <shane_> mon^rch:What is feisty?
[11:31] <Blazingazn> What program should i use to put the .iso on a disk
[11:31] <shane_> mon^rch:Do I do that before or after dragging the tarball into themes?
[11:31] <pyrohotdog> Blazingazn: From what OS?
[11:31] <linxeh> Blazingazn: and what type of disk ?
[11:31] <mon^rch> shane_: that's the name of the ubuntu distribution... :)
[11:31] <Lacrymology> nickrud, it behaves as normal left click
[11:31] <Blazingazn> Windows
[11:31] <Blazingazn> I'm putting the .iso ubuntu
[11:31] <linxeh> Blazingazn: and you only need to ask once
[11:31] <Blazingazn> Alrught xP
[11:31] <nickrud> ElectricMonk_, Lacrymology clt-alt left arrow should change workspaces
[11:32] <linxeh> Blazingazn: ok, nero will do it, probably cequadrat easy cd creator, and things like ultraiso ?
[11:32] <Blazingazn> Alright thank you
[11:32] <mon^rch> shane_: it should be done before... but you can just change to a different theme and back again if you installed it after...
[11:32] <nickrud> ElectricMonk_, chown <you>:<you> ~/.dmrc ; chmod 644 ~/.dmrc     try that
[11:32] <zerokill88> How do i check how much space i have in my directories?
[11:33] <shane_> mon^rch:Help what is this E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:33] <Lacrymology> nickrud, that worked. But my lower taskbar is still frozen (freshly installed Uberyl running gnome/Metacity)
[11:33] <roo_> zerokill88, you can see how much space you have left on your drives/partitions by typing "df -h" into a terminal
[11:33] <jszx> hi all
[11:33] <mmdski> is the driver for the ipw3945 native?
[11:33] <tapio> How can I figure out whats blocking my audio?
[11:33] <nickrud> zerokill88, apps->accessories->disk usage analyzer
[11:33] <shane_> mon^rch:Requested action requires Superuser priviledge
[11:33] <roo_> tapio, what do you mean blocking?
[11:33] <zerokill88> roo_ thanks alot. nickrude thanks
[11:33] <crimsun> tapio: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*
[11:33] <ompaul> zerokill88, du -h is one thing and df -h is another
[11:34] <ryan__> No joy, looking through the logs, it is trying to start synergy before X.Org.. Because synergy must attach to a screen, it is not starting.
[11:34] <nickrud> Lacrymology, I ended up deleting and reinstalling the lower panel: WorkedForMe
[11:34] <tapio> crimsun: Thanks
[11:34] <mon^rch> shane_: okay then just sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:34] <ElectricMonk_> k, to make sure i got this right its   sudo chown user:user home/user/.dmrc ; chmod 644 home/user/.dmrc
[11:34] <senniha> does anyone have an hp dv6000z
[11:34] <mon^rch> shane_: (you forgot to sudo) :)
[11:34] <shane_> mon^rch: I know ;;p
[11:35] <zerokill88> why would my sda1 look like this? /dev/sda1             144G  5.0G  132G   4% /
[11:35] <ryan__> The login manager for a default Ubuntu install is "GDM" isnt it?
[11:35] <nickrud> ryan__, yes
[11:35] <Lacrymology> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CC919A31E23C5FC3
[11:35] <zerokill88> and how would i ad more memory to a diffrerent area?
[11:35] <roo_> zerokill88, that means 4% of the disk space is used
[11:35] <Lacrymology> argh
[11:35] <Lacrymology> I'll reboot X
[11:35] <mon^rch> Viva Rockstar energy drinks! :P
[11:36] <ElectricMonk_> well.....   sudo chown user:user /home/user/.dmrc ; chmod 644 /home/user/.dmrc
[11:36] <roo_> zerokill88, what is the problem?
[11:36] <zerokill88> roo_ well wen i tried to burn a cd to my hd,it says i dont have enouph space?
[11:36] <linxeh> why do people use automatix :(
[11:36] <nickrud> ElectricMonk_, yes hat looks right
[11:36] <Graham> Hey people, how can I get .wma support?
[11:37] <mon^rch> I had a prob with my .dmrc file and had to reinstall intoa different /home to solve it :/
[11:37] <roo_> zerokill88, how many hard drives do you have?
[11:37] <ompaul> !wma
[11:37] <ElectricMonk_> k, do i need to log out, or can i just open a terminal and enter it there?
[11:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:37] <abelle> you tell me
[11:37] <gif89apro> !burn
[11:37] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:37] <zerokill88> roo_ just one.160 gig and i partitioned it to be used all for linux
[11:37] <roo_> zerokill88, hmm, thats odd then. what are you using to rip the CD?
[11:37] <zerokill88> roo_ actually im ripping a dvd,but im using brasero
[11:38] <shane_> mon^rch: If I do sudo apt-get install pixbuf
[11:38] <shane_> mon^rch It'll look exactly like it does on the website?
[11:38] <mon^rch> shane_: yet
[11:38] <mon^rch> shane_: yes
[11:38] <shane_> mon^rch: SEXY TIME
[11:39] <shane_> Mon^rch: I'm not a homo, but I love you
[11:39] <mon^rch> shane_: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[11:39] <imbecile> how do i get rid of the stupid keyring i have type in to log on to my wireless gone?
[11:39] <mon^rch> shane_: lol... I love you too
[11:39] <dxdemetriou> I want to change my whole pc, but the problem is I don't know one up-to-date place on the internet to check each part I'll need. Is there a place that can I find full supported hardware by ubuntu?
[11:39] <ElectricMonk_> thanks nickrud i'll try that
[11:40] <nexous> Which file do i really need to replace from start menu icon in Tango icon set?
[11:40] <nickrud> ElectricMonk_, strange: mine is 600 ; try that one if 644 doesn't work.
[11:42] <zezu_> after upgrading to feisty from LTS, glxinfo reports: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:43] <zezu_> using nvidia drivers
[11:43] <mon^rch> ubuntu really should create some themes for gnome... I agree with shayne_, the standard panel is pretty darn boring
[11:43] <Goshawk> zezu_: have you already tried to configure the xserver?
[11:43] <linxeh> most people just want to work with their computers, not make it look pretty
[11:43] <linxeh> *shocking revelation*
[11:44] <d2812> linxeh: you've not met my girlfriend...
[11:44] <imbecile> dxdemetriou, try a live feisty fawn cd.. ubuntu works very well detecting hardware.. installed on 6 different laptops and all worked right out of the box.. no setting up needed..
[11:44] <mon^rch> I think most people want pretty if they can get it that way...
[11:44] <zezu_> Goshawk, well it was an upgrade, but i've looked at the xorg.conf file myself and it seems ok
[11:44] <zezu_> glx, dri modules are set to load
[11:44] <Goshawk> zezu_: do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:44] <linxeh> mon^rch: I don't - most people want it functional, accessible, and easy
[11:44] <zezu_> Goshawk, ok i'll try it thx
[11:44] <flix007US> Hi guys! I am having trouble with my dapper which was running for years now :-) It drops me to a shell when booting, saying it cant mount /dev/hda1. If I boot my dapper live-cd I can mount that partition, fschk runs ok, fstab looks good, also grub menu.lst. fdisk- l looks as expected ... I have now idea what to do and I need my system running again ...
[11:44] <crdlb> zezu_: actually you don't want Load "dri"
[11:44] <mon^rch> so why the eyecandy in feisty, hmmm?
[11:45] <Goshawk> zezu_: it will reconfigure the xorg.conf depending from your answer
[11:45] <mon^rch> I say the best of both worlds...
[11:45] <Filthpig> hi all
[11:45] <linxeh> mon^rch: or at least everyone that works on their machine. the eye candy is reaction to OSX and Vista, and because "they can"
[11:45] <Filthpig> urh
[11:45] <linxeh> yeah, if it isnt intrusive sure
[11:45] <zezu_> crdlb, i've read that, but it was working prop. i'll try removing it if reconf. desn't work prop.
[11:46] <crdlb> zezu_: run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[11:46] <crdlb> that's much better than dpkg-reconfigure
[11:46] <crdlb> for what you're doing
[11:46] <mon^rch> not intrusive for me... and makes my linux experience actually fun as well as productive, not annoying like vista ;)
[11:46] <Greevous> whois ahuman
[11:46] <Greevous> usrlist
[11:47] <Filthpig> why can't I make a root partition that's ca 10 gb, a home partition that's ca 235 gb and ca 2 gb swap partition on my 250 gb hdd?
[11:47] <Greevous> help
[11:47] <ompaul> !ask | Greevous
[11:47] <ubotu> Greevous: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:47] <klaus_> hello, on #kubuntu it looks like nobody can help me get libdvdcss2 running on feisty - i have it, it cracks the disc key, but continues with a read-error and nothing works :( has anybody an idea ?
[11:47] <Greevous> gui
[11:47] <ompaul> !enter | Greevous
[11:47] <nickrud> Filthpig, because it's not really 250 gb? ;)
[11:47] <Filthpig> heh
[11:47] <ubotu> Greevous: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:47] <zezu_> brb, i think nvidia-xconfig fixed going to restart server, i notice it was using "nv" instead of "nvidia" now
[11:48] <crdlb> gah
[11:48] <Greevous> My bad, keyboard slip
[11:48] <crdlb> he needed to reboot
[11:48] <eiceic_> hellow
[11:48] <Filthpig> nickrud: the partitioner tells me "ERROR!!!! Can't have the end before the start!"
[11:48] <Goshawk> zezu_nv is the opensource driver
[11:48] <Filthpig> which to me seems quite illogical
[11:48] <nickrud> Filthpig, make the root and swap, and leave the rest to home. See what happens
[11:48] <eiceic_> may name is alex
[11:48] <eiceic_> live in brazil
[11:48] <mon^rch> eyecandy and a nice theme are a must for most of today's home users... simply because "they could" sure turned out to be a pretty nice desktop :/
[11:49] <cjae> hi how do I edit grub (menu.lst) see another install (not windows) but the OS is linux and is on a partition behind the already loaded os
[11:49] <eiceic_> meu tem algum brasileiro ai??
[11:49] <air23> I have a dell with ATI Radeon X1400, and my x server fails, anybody know how i can fix it???
[11:49] <Filthpig> nickrud: if I make root 40 gb and home 210 (all amounts in ca;) it's all well
[11:49] <CheshireViking> !br | eiceic_
[11:49] <ubotu> eiceic_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:49] <Filthpig> but I don't need 40 gb of root :/
[11:49] <cjae> do I just point it to /boot
[11:49] <cjae> or /
[11:49] <svr_pi> hi
[11:49] <Filthpig> god damn gaim is a really disturbing irc client :/
[11:49] <nickrud> Filthpig, odd. try cfdisk or fdisk
[11:50] <mon^rch> (my root is 250 gig)
[11:50] <mon^rch> :P
[11:50] <Filthpig> mon^rch: why on earth? :P
[11:50] <mon^rch> my /home is 500
[11:50] <shane_> mon^rch:Hey
[11:50] <Filthpig> but nickrud can I do that from the installer?
[11:50] <mon^rch> shane_: hey
[11:51] <shane_> mon^rch:sudo apt-get engine-bufpix
[11:51] <eiceic_> oi
[11:51] <dxdemetriou> imbecile, I know that, I already run Feisty. Just I want to check what m/board, graphic card etc I'll buy. Now I have a motherboard with onboard graphic card that doesn't work, and the soundcard have some problems. Isn't there a company that make m/boards for example full supported?
[11:51] <eiceic_> you is gay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:51] <shane_> mon^rch:isn't working
[11:51] <mon^rch> shane_: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[11:51] <nickrud> Filthpig, I booted the live cd, used fdisk in a terminal window, put back vista (gparted didn't like it) and then installed ubuntu.
[11:51] <majd_> Hey, when i do mount in terminal and get: /dev/sdc2 on /mnt/majd_macbook type hfsplus (rw) that means that /dev/sdc2 when mounted has write permissions, right?
[11:52] <linxeh> on the dev servers I just set up, the root is 50GB, with 32GB swap, 100GB /opt, and approx 580GB as /data
[11:52] <schasi> Someone using the IBM T40 in here and can say something about battery runtime with linux?
[11:52] <eiceic_>  oiiiiiiiiiiiiii.
[11:52] <eiceic_> No vale mentir .Envie esse corao para todas pessoas que esto dentro do seu corao, e se voc estiver dentro do corao delas elas tero que enviar esse corao de volta pra voc!!!
[11:52] <eiceic_> Vamos ver em quantos coraes voc est? Voc ... j est no meu!!!
[11:52] <eiceic_> _____________
[11:52] <eiceic_> ________
[11:52] <nickrud> Filthpig, also, I used the alternate install cd.
[11:52] <eiceic_> ______VC___
[11:52] <cjae> hi how do I edit grub (menu.lst) see another install (not windows) but the OS is linux and is on a partition behind the already loaded os
[11:52] <CheshireViking> !ops - eiceic
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ops - eiceic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <linxeh> I didnt see the point in any more space for /
[11:52] <eiceic_> _____EST___
[11:52] <eiceic_> ___AQUI___
[11:52] <Enverex> !ops
[11:52] <shane_> mon^rch:E: Invalid operation gtk-engine
[11:52] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:52] <GenNMX> http://xrl.us/wcz3
[11:52] <Goshawk> can someone ban ban eiceic?
[11:52] <atomikuXP> I am currently logged into XFCE on ubuntu and I want to be able to get on this logged in desktop through VNC.. at the moment it's not working, just takes me to a white/black screen when I try to VNC into it
[11:52] <crimsun> friggin tools.
[11:53] <svr_pi> I have an old Toshiba Satellite 1625 CDT and for some reason I cannot install Ubuntu 7.04  I googled for the past 3 hours trying to find some clues as how to proceed. When I bot with ubuntu after a while it freezes. No errors are displayed of any kind. With the 6.10 version I get to the xwindows where I see the background and a mice pointer and that is about it. If I try to install 7.04 it just does not do anything
[11:53] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: are you using vino as server?
[11:53] <mon^rch> shane_: I'm sorry I don't know what that error means :/
[11:53] <svr_pi> can someone please point me in the right direction
[11:53] <cjae> svr_pi, xubuntu
[11:53] <shane_> mon^rch:POO!
[11:53] <jrib> svr_pi: did you try the alternate cd?
[11:54] <nickrud> svr_pi, try using the alternate install cd, you have better control
[11:54] <Sam___> hey guys how is it goign
[11:54] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: Yeah
[11:54] <linxeh> cjae: why is xubuntu going to help?!
[11:54] <mon^rch> shane_: is it just the applications/places/system menu that's out?
[11:54] <atomikuXP> Oh
[11:54] <flix007US> Hi guys! I am having trouble with my dapper which was running for years now :-) It drops me to a shell when booting, saying it cant mount /dev/hda1. If I boot my dapper live-cd I can mount that partition, fschk runs ok, fstab looks good, also grub menu.lst. fdisk- l looks as expected ... I have now idea what to do and I need my system running again ... do you need more infos to help?
[11:54] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: Nope, I'm using vnc4server
[11:54] <Filthpig> nickrud: I had the same problem with Kubuntu when installing some rc version a few months ago.. I thought it was a bug..
[11:54] <svr_pi> how do i get alternate CD?
[11:54] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: Should I use vino?
[11:54] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: ah ok , icannot help you, i used vino...
[11:54] <cjae> smaller lighter easier in your resources but still well maintained
[11:54] <mariah> intuitiveNipple: Logged.. cya I'm off to bed
[11:54] <svr_pi> never mind, I did try it
[11:54] <jrib> svr_pi: releases.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <cjae> smaller lighter easier in your resources but still well maintained svr_pi
[11:55] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: I'll get vino now
[11:55] <nickrud> Filthpig, probably, but between you me and the lamppost, ubiquity (the installer) is black magic ;)
[11:55] <Sam___> i have a question.  I am trying to use my linux server, which is running apache, webmin, and other thingys to have a vpn server.  I have 3 windows computers.  I want them all on the same network.... And i would like the vpn i guest host computer to be on my linux server. Can anyone take some time and help me do this process.????
[11:55] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: maybe i'm wrong, but when i use vino i get the same problem
[11:55] <Sam___> can anyone help me
[11:55] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: because the client that i'm connecting with
[11:55] <shane_> mon^rch:No idea. I don't have the start button!
[11:55] <Filthpig> hmh
[11:55] <Filthpig> oh well
[11:55] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: neds accept/deny from keyboard for each foreign vnc client
[11:55] <Filthpig> I guess there's no problem in having a 40 gb root dir
[11:55] <Filthpig> it's just a waste of space :p
[11:55] <Sam___> can anyone help me do the VPN s erver???
[11:56] <misnix> flix007US, any error messages ?
[11:56] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: in vino just press ALT+A
[11:56] <nickrud> Filthpig, try using one of the text disk formatters, see if you can format the way you want
[11:56] <svr_pi> jrib: I can bot knoppix on the laptop but i never was able to boot ubuntu
[11:56] <mon^rch> shane_: lol is a start button that important?
[11:56] <shane_> YES!
[11:56] <jrib> svr_pi: k, give the alternate cd a try
[11:56] <Sam___> anyone???
[11:56] <Sam___> vpn??
[11:56] <Filthpig> nickrud: as in downloading the alternate cd?
[11:56] <jrib> !please > Sam___ (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:56] <shane_> Mon^rch: it's a ubuntu!
[11:56] <svr_pi> I am downloading it right now
[11:56] <mon^rch> shane_: I like the ubuntu one better anyway
[11:56] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: to accept the connection (and the screen will be not grey) try the same with the server you are using since vino is installed when you use gnome.
[11:57] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: What command do I run to start vino VNC server?
[11:57] <nickrud> Filthpig, I'm not sure, but I'd expect one of them to be on the live cd.
[11:57] <mon^rch> shane_: oh, yeah... you're not using ubuntu
[11:57] <svr_pi> is there any particular boot option I can use to start install instead of booting using CD first?
[11:57] <shane_> mon^rch: I am!
[11:57] <shane_> 7.04!
[11:57] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: I typed vino then pressed TAB (to make sure) It just gave me "vino-prefrences"
[11:57] <mon^rch> shane_: o
[11:57] <shane_> I have no start button at all!
[11:57] <Sam___> i have a question. I am trying to use my linux server, which is running apache, webmin, and other thingys to have a vpn server. I have 3 windows computers. I want them all on the same network.... And i would like the vpn i guest host computer to be on my linux server. Can anyone take some time and help me do this process.????
[11:57] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: after that you configure it, it is started by gnome session automatically
[11:57] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: I'm using XFCE
[11:57] <shane_> Mon^rch: Are you referring to Applications?
[11:57] <mon^rch> shane_: yes
[11:58] <svr_pi>  jrib: is there any particular boot option I can use to start install instead of booting using CD first?
[11:58] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: can you reach the keyboard of the server that you wanna control?
[11:58] <atomikuXP> Goshawk: I'm in the SSH
[11:58] <nickrud> Filthpig, I like text installers, I'm used to them
[11:58] <shane_> mon^rch: Okay
[11:58] <majd_> Hey, when i do mount in terminal and get: /dev/sdc2 on /mnt/majd_macbook type hfsplus (rw) that means that /dev/sdc2 when mounted has write permissions, right?
[11:59] <jrib> svr_pi: no, you need the alternate cd
[11:59] <mon^rch> shane_: the "start" button you see on the website is installable if you really want it that badly
[11:59] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: ok, so review the server configuration, and check that user should not confirm for each client attempt.
[11:59] <svr_pi> jrib: thanks I will try it
[11:59] <meezyfuh> hi. is there a way to download all files in an HTTP directory without having to individually click each one and 'save as'?
[11:59] <mon^rch> shane_: and the "start" button just opens the applications menu ;)
[11:59] <shane_> mon^rch: Nah, but I want the Penguin Terminal and wall paper!
[11:59] <svr_pi> jrib: could you tell me the difference between regular cd and alternate?
[11:59] <jrib> meezyfuh: wget
[11:59] <jrib> !alternate > svr_pi (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:00] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: usually i get the grey screen if the server is waiting for an answer from the user in the pc to allow/deny the remote connection
[12:00] <Sam___> can anyone help me config openssl??
[12:00] <atomikuXP> yeah
[12:00] <Sam___> need help not sure where it is installed too
[12:00] <meezyfuh> jrib: thanks much.
[12:00] <mon^rch> shane_: you can customize the whol;e lot...
[12:00] <atomikuXP> Okay, So how can I resume an XFCE session via the terminal?
[12:00] <svr_pi> jrib: thanks
[12:00] <Sam___> im using an ssh
[12:00] <Sam___> program
[12:00] <Sam___> what is the path to the config file??
[12:00] <shane_> mon^rch: How? Where do I get the bin and stuff?
[12:00] <jrib> !enter | Sam___
[12:00] <ubotu> Sam___: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:00] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: in gnome i start gnome-session
[12:00] <atomikuXP> yeah
[12:00] <atomikuXP> that'd start a new session
[12:00] <atomikuXP> I already have an XFCE session that I would like to... "enter"
[12:00] <air23> i installed ubuntu with alternate version and I have ATI RADEON X1400 but my xserver fails, anybody know why???
[12:01] <ubuntu> hey
[12:01] <Goshawk> atomikuXP: ok now try to login