[05:57] <tonyyarusso> LinuxMonk, Try that then, at least that will tell you if the drive is the issue.
[05:57] <psusi> LinuxMonk, yes
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> BastardLinux, Oh?
[05:57] <LinuxMonk> psusi can ya give it to me..lol
[05:57] <BastardLinux> that is your osx
[05:57] <Eleaf> alright, it's time I got this right
[05:57] <zane> yep I know that
[05:57] <psusi> LinuxMonk, if your cdrom is /dev/hdd, then just md5sum /dev/hdd
[05:57] <BastardLinux> if it _is_ the dvdrw then maybe a netinst would work? yes?
[05:57] <Eleaf> How do I truly select the gtk theme I want to use for gtk apps while using kde etc.??
[05:58] <eno__> so if ompiling my kernel doesn't work... does that means I did something wrong in menuconfig?
[05:58] <HoHoHo> Hi, may I know if it is possible to make a share folder whereby I can share the information between my Window and Ubuntu in a folder.
[05:58] <eno__> just run the samba config
[05:58] <zane> bastardlinux, so how do I cut a bit off that (say 10GB)  for ubuntu
[05:58] <eno__> it's in your system menu somewhere
[05:58] <BastardLinux> eno__, most likely, but not certainly
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, Samba will do that.
[05:58] <primoturbo> Does anyone know how to fix pixelated video? I have all the codecs and the correct ati drivers. However only under vesa does the pixelation turn to normal smooth
[05:58] <kremonte> if i, say, ln -s /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/moo , is it possible to moo install xx?
[05:58] <HoHoHo> tonyyarusso, Samba?
[05:58] <zuverink> anyone have any idea how to share a printer?
[05:58] <asad112> so is anyone able to point to where i need to go to get this dlink card working?
[05:59] <purplefeltangel> tonyarusso: um it's a cable line . . . .
[05:59] <BastardLinux> zane, you have to boot to osx and reconfigure your hdd from there, (falls outside the scope of this irc discussion) read the plentiful how-tos
[05:59] <sethk> asad112, the dumpster?
[05:59] <eno__> I forget what processor is in this machine
[05:59] <eno__> :P
[05:59] <zane> right, thanks a lot guys
[05:59] <liable> zuverink: yeah, i think thats right.
[05:59] <BastardLinux> kremonte, yes. but why?\
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, It's a program/protocol for going back and forth with Windows networking and Linux.
[05:59] <eno__> if it doesn't work as AMD I am just going to turn it off and check by eye
[05:59] <asad112> don't think so sethk
[05:59] <psusi> kremonte, yes
[05:59] <LinuxMonk> psusi running it now
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, I don't think it's installed by default, but if not sudo apt-get install samba will get it for you.
[06:00] <LinuxMonk> so well know if its the cd or not. but i swear its not the media
[06:00] <HoHoHo> Thanks tonyyarusso
[06:00] <zuverink> liable:what was right?
[06:00] <sethk> asad112, what's the problem with it?
[06:00] <Eleaf> How do I truly select the gtk theme I want to use for gtk apps while using kde etc.??
[06:00] <BastardLinux> smbclient maybe?
[06:00] <psusi> kremonte, err, usually... unless apt-get is actually one of those multi purpose binaries that uses it's invocation name to decide what you want it to do
[06:00] <kremonte> BastardLinux: because i can :)
[06:00] <liable> zuverink: sorry, wrong channel
[06:00] <asad112> sethk, i have no idea how to get it to work
[06:00] <kremonte> i just feel like playing with my system, hehehe
[06:00] <eno__> HoHoHo: If you go to system>admin>Networking it will install smaba for you I think
[06:00] <BastardLinux> psusi, haha I thought that was the premise of apt from the get ;)
[06:00] <sethk> asad112, most cards just work.  what happens with it?
[06:00] <kremonte> "moo moo" for an ascii cow! :D
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, Then, in an ideal world, the GUI app will set things up.  (System > Administration > Shared Folders)  Otherwise, you'll need to learn how to edit the smb.conf.
[06:01] <BastardLinux> kremonte, :)
[06:01] <BastardLinux> ideal? /me faints
[06:01] <asad112> sethk, i plug it in, and only one light comes on... :-/
[06:01] <BastardLinux> CLI for chaos
[06:01] <asad112> i am using a wired connection now
[06:01] <nosralboo> hey can someone help me, I am having a huge problem with ubuntu, I installed kubuntu desktop, it "works fine" but I don't really like it, anyway while I was running it I had 50 megs of physical memory left (out of 512!) and I wasn't running any programs, does anyone know how this could happen?
[06:02] <sethk> asad112, the lights don't tell us much.  what messages do you get from the O/S?  You said you plug it in; is it a pcmcia card?
[06:02] <BastardLinux> nosralboo, its the 'k'
[06:02] <psusi> nosralboo, how did you measure this?
[06:02] <HoHoHo> Thanks, tonyyarusso I think I had it install but where is the folder that is shared that I can see on Ubuntu and Window?
[06:02] <liable> nosralboo: where did you get that figure from?
[06:02] <nosralboo> system monitor
[06:02] <owner> kde is quite resource hungry
[06:02] <LinuxMonk> ok now this is odd
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, i plugged it in, and nothing happened
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, You can use any folder you please.
[06:02] <psusi> nosralboo, pay attention to the part that says how much is used for cache
[06:02] <sorush20> !Azureus
[06:02] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, i think it is a pcmcia card
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, it is a dlink dwl 650
[06:03] <eno__> oh farg
[06:03] <LinuxMonk> psusi whats the correct MD5 hash?
[06:03] <HoHoHo> So I will be able to see it at where on the Window? tonyyarusso ?
[06:03] <nosralboo> "user memory: 111 mb  of 504 mb"
[06:03] <sethk> asad112, run dmesg, then plug it in, and run dmesg again.  The stuff printed at the end (probably four or five lines) of dmesg will be about the card
[06:03] <nbound> do anyone elses downloads drop out when getting the wine package from winehq through synaptic????
[06:03] <sethk> asad112, what kind it is, and how it is configured by the o/s
[06:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> BastardLinux, what to use to backup ubuntu/create live cd of my present system on a DVD/CD?
[06:03] <BastardLinux> that card used the prism2 no?
[06:03] <lapducky_> What was the last thing you guys saw me type?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, On Windows, once it's set up it will be in Network Neighborhood / My Network Places, and in Ubuntu from Places > .
[06:03] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: my connection is a cable line
[06:03] <primoturbo> Hey guys
[06:04] <primoturbo> does anyone know how to fix this
[06:04] <primoturbo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94987&highlight=video+pixelation
[06:04] <BastardLinux> s_spiff{AWAY}, again. mondo/mindi
[06:04] <liable> asad112: http://sourceforge.net/projects/acx100/
[06:04] <primoturbo> I posted this a long time ago but I have the exact same issue!
[06:04] <psusi> LinuxMonk, check next to the download links
[06:04] <HoHoHo> Thanks a lot tonyyarusso , it is solve :D
[06:04] <lapducky_> It seems as if I dropped without seeing it
[06:04] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  sorryto ask the same q.
[06:04] <BastardLinux> sorry to remember you asked it =p
[06:04] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P
[06:04] <asad112> sethk, these are the last four lines:
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.294000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.5
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294746.034000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[06:04] <asad112> [4299748.319000]  cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
[06:05] <BastardLinux> that is not a wifi card!!!
[06:05] <sethk> asad112, I should have told you, use a paste bot, don't paste to the channel
[06:05] <asad112> my bad
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Check out ifconfig and your devices listing to see if it's even recognizing the interface.  If it's not, you'll have to ask for specific hardware support, knowing what card you have.
[06:05] <BastardLinux> hehe
[06:05] <sorush20> why isn't Azureus in repositories?
[06:05] <BastardLinux> just paste the last 5 or so
[06:05] <sethk> and as BastardLinux said, that's a bluetooth card
[06:05] <derek_> Hi
[06:05] <derek_> I downloaded the ISO. How should I burn it in winxp?
[06:06] <derek_> data CD ? or bootable? or how?
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, it's initializing but not finding anyplace to hook into the network stack
[06:06] <BastardLinux> winxp? whats that?
[06:06] <psusi> sorush20, it is... did you not enable the universe repository?
[06:06] <derek_> (using nero)
[06:06] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: i don't know how to do any of that :S but on startup when it says "configuring network interface" it fails . . . .
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, that's actually quite good, because the card is detected and configured.
[06:06] <asad112> good! :)
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, now you just have to find someone who has a clue about bluetooth
[06:06] <psusi> derek_, bur it as an image
[06:06] <s_spiff{AWAY}> BastardLinux, does it have a gui? or based on commands
[06:06] <nosralboo> oh and I uninstalled kubuntu
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> derek_, Most burning apps have a "burn from iso" option.
[06:06] <Hawk|-> hi
[06:06] <BastardLinux> s_spiff{AWAY}, CLI
[06:06] <derek_> ok
[06:06] <nosralboo> I uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, but I still get the kubuntu login screen
[06:06] <BastardLinux> gui bad
[06:06] <BastardLinux> bad gui bad
[06:07] <psusi> you don't use bluetooth for networking really, it only has a range of like 6 feet
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Okay, I assume you're in Windows right now then?   I sure do /me has a treo650
[06:07] <Hawk|-> Question: How do i adress the video-out port of a tv-card ? Like nexus-s ?
[06:07] <Hawk|-> +d
[06:07] <BastardLinux> networks quite lovely
[06:07] <psusi> BastardLinux, what's that?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Do you have another computer that you could use so that you could be connected and running Ubuntu at the same time?
[06:07] <LinuxMonk> psusi there's actually 2 bluetooth technologies
[06:07] <sethk> asad112, I've not configured a bluetooth card, unfortunately.   Look around for a howto on it.  As I said, the hard part is done, so hopefully a howto will be useful
[06:07] <BastardLinux> psusi, but yes, I was being sarcastic about the scanning
[06:08] <BastardLinux> psusi, cell phone treo 650
[06:08] <owner> nosral you have to uninstall the kubuntu splash packages
[06:08] <owner> and then there is a command
[06:08] <owner> i forget to reconfigure the splash
[06:08] <psusi> BastardLinux, ahhh
[06:08] <LinuxMonk> there is a 100FT bluetooth :)
[06:08] <asad112> sethk, can you point me as to what to search for?
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: yes but my mom is using it ;P
[06:08] <liable> asad112: http://sourceforge.net/projects/acx100/
[06:08] <psusi> LinuxMonk, says who?
[06:08] <BastardLinux> sethk, ubuntu just set mine up for me :)
[06:08] <asad112> liable, i went to that, what is it i need to download?
[06:09] <BastardLinux> asad112, lsmod|grep prism
[06:09] <LinuxMonk> actaully i think its 100m wich is 330FT
[06:09] <GregAsche> any good programs to join video files?
[06:09] <liable> asad112: the driver.. then you need to compile it.
[06:09] <BastardLinux> doesn't the 650 use the prism2 driver? you can certainly use the hostap driver as well
[06:09] <lapducky_> hmmm... what about init 2 ?
[06:09] <sorush20> here is my sources why don't I have Azureu
[06:10] <sorush20> Azureu
[06:10] <BastardLinux> init 2 is the default on all debian based systems
[06:10] <sethk> BastardLinux, that sounds familiar about prism2, but I wouldn't swear to it
[06:10] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7161
[06:10] <BastardLinux> sethk, all the early ones did, but they had several ver of that one
[06:10] <asad112> liable, that download link doesnt work
[06:10] <sorush20> /identify
[06:10] <BastardLinux> and the later ver were different, they had those goofy 22m ones for a while that were not supported under linux
[06:11] <Hawk|-> #mplayer
[06:11] <psusi> sorush20, did you reload?
[06:11] <LinuxMonk> psusi http://cgi.ebay.ca/Bluetooth-USB-Adapter-Class1up-to-100M-328ft-Range-us_W0QQitemZ5851530044QQcategoryZ44999QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:11] <BastardLinux> lapducky_, if that is the case, then logic would reason that one of the init scripts would free your trouble
[06:11] <owner> the run levels are different in ubuntu than standard debian
[06:11] <sorush20> psusi: yes..
[06:11] <owner> i think
[06:11] <sorush20> I'm using kde adept
[06:11] <LinuxMonk> Class 1 bluetooth adapter, 100 meters = 300+feet
[06:11] <BastardLinux> owner, 2 is still default
[06:12] <BastardLinux> 5 is gui in roothac
[06:12] <psusi> owner, nope, they aren't
[06:12] <BastardLinux> maybe the inittab is diff
[06:12] <owner> because in debian you can init 3 to kill gdm/kdm
[06:12] <owner> and init 5 to restart it
[06:12] <BastardLinux> but basically a deb and ian stock
[06:12] <BastardLinux> yeah. NO
[06:12] <asad112> is there any cards you can get for linux, that you plug in, and they work immediately
[06:12] <asad112> ??
[06:13] <sethk> owner, the display manager level in ubuntu is 2
[06:13] <psusi> just what the world needs... ANOTHER protocol operating in the ISM band
[06:13] <LinuxMonk> lmao
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Okay.  What I would suggest is doing just that sometime another day when she isn't, because it will be a lot easier for you to figure out what the issue is while booted into Ubuntu and talking to people here.  (It could be done otherwise, but would cause you undue frustration.)
[06:13] <johndarkhorse> asad112: what type of cards?
[06:14] <LinuxMonk> suprized psusi
[06:14] <BastardLinux> you can config your runlevels to do wtf you want, but by default. debian is N 2 for gui or not
[06:14] <asad112> johndarkhorse, wireless cards
[06:14] <paul_> is this a good place to get help for ubuntu?
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell asad112 about wireless
[06:14] <lapducky_> psusi, don't you want a 2.4 Ghz embedded Linux remote-control toaster oven to go with your collection of intelligent garage door openers?
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> asad112: read the page ubotu is showing you and make your decisions
[06:14] <lapducky_> lol
[06:15] <paul_> what is the default password for root if there is one?
[06:15] <lapducky_> paul_, that's the nasty rumour
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> i hear the wireless cards based on that 2500 chipset are supposed to be well supported.
[06:15] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: *sigh* ok but i swear i'm going to go on a shooting spree if i can't get my email for one more day *rolls eyes*
[06:15] <psusi> one of these days I'm going to remove the magnatron from a microwave and laugh as all the wifi junk within 2 miles stops working
[06:15] <lapducky_> paul_, it's disabled
[06:15] <paul_> ohh
[06:15] <sethk> BastardLinux, personally I think it is a big mistake to have only single user and then windowing, without a multi-user non-windowing layer.  And most folks really don't know how to muck around with levels
[06:15] <psusi> there's way too much junk using the ISM band these days
[06:15] <lapducky_> do :$ sudo +s passwd root
[06:15] <paul_> im trying to isntall some linuxwacom drivers
[06:15] <BastardLinux> asad112, paste the output of this command please :: cardctl ident
[06:15] <lapducky_> If you want to set one
[06:16] <psusi> paul_, there is no password for root by default
[06:16] <BastardLinux> asad112, if you do that, I will help you config your card (if it is possible)
[06:16] <LinuxMonk> psusi ok the md5's dont match however their for the ISO, wouldnt they change for the burnt product
[06:16] <lapducky_> !ubotu tell paul_ about rootsudo
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Sorry...  Try to breathe for a day, really, it's not that long, right?
[06:16] <LinuxMonk> or even the pressed product
[06:16] <psusi> LinuxMonk, nope, same iso is on the pressed cds
[06:16] <asad112> bastardlinux, where do i a paste it to?
[06:17] <psusi> LinuxMonk, sounds like the drive is broken.. you might try disabling dma mode on it with hdparm
[06:17] <BastardLinux> asad112, here, it should be only 5 lines
[06:17] <paul_> it says sudo +s command not found
[06:17] <BastardLinux> or less
[06:17] <asad112> Socket 0:
[06:17] <asad112>   product info: "D-Link", "DWL-650 Wireless PC Card RevP", "ISL37101P-10", "A3"
[06:17] <asad112>   manfid: 0x000b, 0x7110
[06:17] <asad112>   function: 6 (network)
[06:17] <BastardLinux> cool
[06:17] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: don't ask folks to paste in here please
[06:17] <dylan_> what package do i install for a thesaurus in openoffice?
[06:17] <borisattva> which services do i need to configure in firestarter so that it lets full use of LAN without opening up what is not needed?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> What's the best way to explain to people that a Live CD is not going to break their computer or destroy data?
[06:17] <asad112> i got kicked...
[06:17] <johndarkhorse> asad112: do not paste in here.
[06:17] <asad112> too late
[06:17] <borisattva> should i even bother running a firestarter with a router?
[06:18] <johndarkhorse> asad112: no matter what anyone else tells you
[06:18] <LinuxMonk> ok then tell me why all my cd's telling me same thing, i got 20+cd's and tried in 3 different drive they all give me same md5sum but different than iso md5sum
[06:18] <dylan_> borisattva, not on ubuntu
[06:18] <psusi> tonyyarusso, "the live cd is not going to break your computer or destroy your data" usually works well
[06:18] <strav> he guys, I'm wishing to periodically test some command line php app I wrote tough it seems crontab won't take effect... I used: crontab -e  and entered some string like: 20 19 * * * /home/phpprog
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> How intimidated should I be by having to figure out port forwarding to use vnc with a router that has non-useful documentation and isn't on portforward.com?
[06:18] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: yeah, sure, if the FATE OF THE WORLD WAS NOT HANGING IN THE BALANCE OF MY EMAIL! *drama!*
[06:18] <sethk> psusi, hey, give me 10 minutes and a live cd...  :)
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> psusi, They don't believe me.
[06:19] <asad112> bastardlinux, did you at least get that?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> psusi, They don't understand why not.
[06:19] <psusi> LinuxMonk, are you looking at the correct iso md5sum?
[06:19] <borisattva> thanks dylan
[06:19] <BastardLinux> http://linuxcompatible.org/D-Link_DWL-650_Wireless_PC_Card_RevP_c11299.html
[06:19] <BastardLinux> asad112, did you see links like that?
[06:19] <psusi> strav, is /home/phpprog executable?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Oh, well in that case I'll contact the PM and see if they can pull some strings for you!
[06:20] <strav> (the time I specified used to be several minutes in advance since cron might take some time to update it's spool tough... It won't load my prog)
[06:20] <asad112> bastardlinux, what do you mean?
[06:20] <strav> psusi: of course
[06:20] <ki4ikl> i just loaded a driver for my logitech quick cam and my computer wont reconize my cam as video0, how do i make it do that
[06:20] <LinuxMonk> 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61 ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[06:20] <psusi> tonyyarusso, "because it doesn't touch your hard drive, it runs entirely off the cd"
[06:20] <e_machinist> Whenever I try to eject or unmount my /dev/hdd (dvdrom) using kde it keeps telling me that eject or unmount failed. Whats up with this?
[06:20] <ki4ikl> can someone tell me how stable dapper is
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: which PM? canada or britain? ;P
[06:21] <ki4ikl> how stable is dapper at the moment
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> ki4ikl: it is not.
[06:21] <ki4ikl> is ti usable though
[06:21] <strav> (I also tried to run usual things like xterm and such)
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> ki4ikl: if you dont use it as your primary machine, you can use it
[06:21] <psusi> not too many problems
[06:21] <ki4ikl> okay, anyone have a suggestion for my webcam problem
[06:22] <LinuxMonk> yeah buy a new one
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Canada here.
[06:22] <LinuxMonk> lol
[06:22] <paul_> copy/move the wacom.c from there to drivers/usb/input in your
[06:22] <paul_> linux-source-driectory  can someone explain to me how to do that?
[06:22] <paul_> i found the file and copied it but where is the linux source directory?
[06:22] <ki4ikl> Does anyhone know much much abotu the logitech quickcam express
[06:23] <BastardLinux> asad112, looks like a few ppl have made it work with the hostap drivers, but those are pretty tricky for newb's
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ki4ikl,  last i looked they had no support. that may of changed by now.
[06:23] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: OT question before i go to bed -- who're ya votin' for, if i may ask?
[06:23] <nosralboo> hey does anyone know why I can't run Login Screen Setup?  I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:23] <nosralboo> I tried rebooting but nothing
[06:23] <ki4ikl> yeah they have support, i found a driver i just need to make it show as video0
[06:23] <sorush20> guys anyone take a look at my sources I don't know why I don't have azurus
[06:23] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7161
[06:24] <psusi> sorush20, did you reload?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, I'm not, actually.  I'm in Canada going to school, but a US citizen.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  read that Azurus wiki page yet?
[06:24] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: really! that's interesting. ok, who *would* you vote for? ;P
[06:24] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[06:24] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Linda Slavin, NDP (Peterborough riding).
[06:24] <BastardLinux> asad112, do this and tell me what it says:: dmesg|grep prism  <-- does that find anything?
[06:24] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: purplefeltangel: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:25] <strav> thing is: I see 4 crontab modes in /etc... hourly daily, week and monthly should this implies that cron is updating it's spool at a minumum of every hour?
[06:25] <nosralboo> hey does anyone know why I can't run Login Screen Setup?  I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:25] <purplefeltangel> johndarkhorse: yeahyeahyeah i'm leaving anyway
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Good call johndarkhorse.    I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, I found that happened if I did not have permission through sudo to do so.
[06:26] <dylan_> what package do i install for a thesaurus in openoffice?
[06:26] <nosralboo> oh
[06:26] <strav> psusi: I also tried to run my cmd from root's cron using sudo crontab -e... didn't worked.
[06:26] <nosralboo> how do I run it through terminal?
[06:27] <marquisdesade> nosralboo: gdmsetup
[06:27] <johndarkhorse> strav: you dont use sudo from a root terminal.
[06:28] <nosralboo> it says "cannot acces gdm config file"
[06:28] <marquisdesade> nosralboo: that's becaues you're not root
[06:28] <strav> johndarkhorse: I think you missundersand... I was in a standard terminal... xtrem was only a test app I wanted to load using cron.,
[06:28] <nosralboo> oh alrihgt
[06:28] <nosralboo> thanks
[06:28] <BastardLinux> asad112, if you are comfortable with compiling you can try apt-get install hostap-source hostap-utils hostapd
[06:29] <BastardLinux> asad112, other than that, you might not have much luck :(
[06:29] <bshumate> nosralboo: gksudo gdmsetup
[06:29] <bshumate> nosralboo: you may see an error message offering up a clue as to what the problem is...
[06:29] <strav> but it fact... how often that cron is suposed to check it's tables and all?
[06:29] <BastardLinux> asad112, I seem to recall the later versions of that card don't use the prism2 drivers so well, but hostap really, really rocks
[06:29] <marquisdesade> does anyone know how to manage startup services...
[06:30] <marquisdesade> without using the GUI... it's got only a few entries
[06:30] <sorush20> psusi: yes I did read tha azurus wiki and it just says that i sould downlaod form a non source right?
[06:30] <BastardLinux> marquisdesade, update-rc.d ?
[06:30] <marquisdesade> no, i want an interface
[06:30] <BastardLinux> bah
[06:30] <marquisdesade> something like redhat's ntsysv
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> marquisdesade,  thers some 'sysv' gui tools out that show ya stuff
[06:30] <BastardLinux> I want beer and grrls
[06:31] <marquisdesade> Dr_Willis: anything that comes with the default install?
[06:31] <liable> !info sysvconfig
[06:31] <ubotu> sysvconfig: (A text menu based utility for configuring init script links), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.10 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> marquisdesade,  no clue. i install stuff all the time. no idea whats even default
[06:31] <psusi> sorush20, I'd sugest bit tornado... I can't stand that bloated slow java junk azurus
[06:32] <marquisdesade> liable: thanks
[06:32] <rangerbob> looks like a lot of people here, hope some can take a minute or two for a newbie
[06:32] <liable> np
[06:33] <rangerbob> trying to get my ATI graphic drivers loaded, could use a litle help, if possible and THANKS!!
[06:33] <zane> hi, bac again
[06:33] <BastardLinux> rangerbob, you're not using gatos are you?
[06:34] <zane> does any user who is using a mac know any decent free repartitioning software I can use?
[06:34] <rangerbob> Tried ubuntus side and ATIs side and afraid its a no go
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> zane: use an ubuntu livecd and use gparted
[06:34] <zane> k, does it allow me to repartition without erasing the hard drive?
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> zane: yes it does.
[06:35] <z0rz> is there any easy way to get kde running on my ubuntu box without reinstalling?
[06:35] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, oh hfs+ ???
[06:35] <z0rz> I did the KDE package in synaptic-manager
[06:35] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:35] <rangerbob> sorry , not for sure about ganthos,
[06:35] <z0rz> damn, I just insatlled "kde"
[06:35] <zane> right, thanks a lot
[06:35] <z0rz> should I uninstall that?
[06:35] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: nope. just install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:36] <rangerbob> tried opening the bin file I downloaded and just cant get it to execute
[06:36] <z0rz> well I have like a billion extra apps
[06:36] <rangerbob> text editor or something mabey?
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> rangerbob: chmod +x filename.bin    then ./filename.bin
[06:36] <rangerbob> thank you!!!
[06:37] <BastardLinux> rangerbob, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:37] <BastardLinux> oops
[06:37] <BastardLinux> zane, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:37] <rangerbob> thankyou!!
[06:37] <strav> ... sudo cron restart = cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 11956: Resource temporarily unavailable
[06:37] <strav>  ?
[06:37] <BastardLinux> it doesn't resize hfs
[06:37] <zane> bastardlinux, thanks I am on there now
[06:37] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: it shrinks hfs just fine, i use it on all my macs
[06:38] <zane> bastardlinux, damn
[06:38] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: we help folks in here all the time. we don't offer info that doesnt work
[06:38] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, explain the gparted.sf site then please
[06:39] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: i have no control over websites. i know what works for me. i own many macs, and have not had a problem.
[06:39] <zane> johndarkhorse, so it will allow me to resize my hfs 79 GB partition so that I can create a new 10 GB partition for ubuntu?
[06:39] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, I understand. I have tried gparted on my tibook, it didn't work.  I checked the website, and it is still reported not to work
[06:39] <johndarkhorse> zane: it should allow you to shrink your partition, yes.
[06:40] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, you must have a secret to share with gparted then, yes?
[06:41] <cafuego_> ush
[06:41] <stravin> argh.
[06:41] <cafuego> blood x-chat
[06:41] <cafuego> they just making it WORSE
[06:41] <zane> johndarkhorse, I have a ibook G4 which I bought a week ago. Have you ever tried gparted an ibook?
[06:41] <johndarkhorse> zane: yes i have.
[06:42] <zane> johndarkhorse, do you use the latest version of gparted to do it/
[06:42] <zane> ?
[06:42] <Phuzion> Anyone have a tutorial on user management?
[06:42] <johndarkhorse> zane: i use the breezy liveCD
[06:42] <Nihil85> hi! i have a big problem: internet connection doesn't work under Ubuntu. i have an ethernet adsl modem and i've done sudo pppoeconf and setted it properl but nothing happens. I try to ping a site but no signal of life
[06:43] <zane> johndarkhorse, gparted breezy liveCD or ubuntu breezy liveCD
[06:43] <liable> Nihil85: did you do pon dsl-provider?
[06:44] <Phuzion> How do I list users?
[06:44] <johndarkhorse> zane: i'm an ubuntu user. an ubuntu breezy liveCD  http://www.ubuntu.com/downloads
[06:44] <liable> Phuzion: 'users'
[06:46] <zane> johndarkhorse, right, this is what I am going to do. I will download the gparted file onto my usb flash drive and then boot up the Ubuntu breezy liveCD. Wish me luck :)
[06:46] <odat> hi everyone
[06:46] <BastardLinux> Phuzion, cat /etc/passwd ?
[06:46] <BastardLinux> Phuzion, w ?
[06:47] <psusi> gparted is installed on the livecd
[06:48] <odat> has anyone ever used this frostwire program
[06:48] <odat> its pretty cool
[06:48] <zane> psusi, gparted installed on the live cd? really
[06:51] <kenv> I am newb.  I finaly got ubuntu to play mpg.  How do I configure it now  to play dvd's.  I have a dvd player in the pc and it sees it but the dvd's will not play.
[06:52] <Davey|Work> at all?
[06:52] <Davey|Work> oh, you need to install libdecss or whatever its called, more than likely
[06:52] <javad> hi everybody
[06:52] <Davey|Work> !dvd
[06:52] <kenv> wher do I get them
[06:52] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell kenv about dvd
[06:53] <Davey|Work> !tell kenv about libdvdcss
[06:55] <maxtnk>
[06:55] <odat> frostwire = free clone of limewire pro
[06:55] <xeox> hi all, I installed the k7 linux image and I was wondering whether I should use complete removal or just removal for the 386 one? :)
[06:56] <nosralboo> alrighty I have a serious issue here
[06:56] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
[06:56] <BastardLinux> xeox, just choose the new one in your grub screen
[06:56] <enlightenedone> hey all
[06:56] <nosralboo> I have 512 ram, and ubuntu is using 420 of it, even when i'm not runnning anything!
[06:56] <BastardLinux> xeox, unless you are low on hdd space, just keep the old one, hell it works :)
[06:56] <xeox> hehe ok :) thx
[06:56] <nosralboo> (besides system monitor)
[06:57] <odat> nosralboo, gnome and ubuntu are confronting memory leaks and fixing as many as they can for dapper
[06:57] <nosralboo> can someone tell me what is suckin up my resources, like is there somethin I should  know about to disable, i litterally just got ubuntu
[06:57] <enlightenedone> hey, i've d/led the latest kernel from kernel.org, but no checksum value is provided at the site...how can i check that my d/l is OK?
[06:57] <nosralboo> how do I fix that
[06:57] <korptix> how do i remove a program ?
[06:57] <ppd> hi. does anybody know a lightweight calendar app like sunbird or evolution's one ?
[06:57] <nosralboo> cuz it's slowing things down
[06:58] <primoturbo> whats the command to move a directory?
[06:58] <nosralboo> mv
[06:58] <nosralboo> wait
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, 'top' will tell you.
[06:58] <korptix> ..
[06:58] <nosralboo> ok
[06:58] <enlightenedone> nosralboo, what command are you using to einf out how much ram?
[06:58] <korptix> how do i remove a program ?
[06:58] <primoturbo> ty
[06:58] <nosralboo> just system monitor
[06:58] <enlightenedone> find
[06:58] <enlightenedone> type "free"
[06:58] <enlightenedone> that is more accurate than top
[06:58] <nosralboo> oh
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> korptix, sudo apt-get remove programname
[06:59] <korptix> ty
[06:59] <nosralboo> Mem:        516508     363924     152584          0      16844     221384
[06:59] <nosralboo> it's a bit diff now
[06:59] <nosralboo> oops
[06:59] <enlightenedone> the amount free on the second line is how much you actually have free
[06:59] <nosralboo>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:59] <nosralboo> Mem:        516508     363924     152584          0      16844     221384
[06:59] <nosralboo> OOOO
[06:59] <DarkFolken> hey guys, how hard/easy would it be to make ubuntu live AMD64 CD work off a flash drive?
[06:59] <Blippe_> nosralboo, try free -m
[06:59] <enlightenedone> you're missing the second line
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> nosralboo: please dont paste in here
[06:59] <Vashypooh> probably not too hard at all Dark
[07:00] <nosralboo>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[07:00] <nosralboo> Mem:           504        355        148          0         16        216
[07:00] <nosralboo> -/+ buffers/cache:        122        381
[07:00] <nosralboo> Swap:         1474          0       1474
[07:00] <enlightenedone> you have 381 MB free
[07:00] <Blippe_> nosralboo, stop pasting!
[07:00] <Vashypooh> as long as your bios supports loading off of usb drives
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, ops are going to be upset...
[07:00] <korptix> whats the best firewall to use ?
[07:00] <Hawk|-> Mem:        516364     501880      14484          0      50852     142652
[07:00] <nosralboo> oh alright
[07:00] <nosralboo> sorry about pastes lol
[07:00] <DarkFolken> Vashypooh: what would be the easisest way to do it?
[07:00] <enlightenedone> so ubuntu is not using that much of your 512 mb
[07:00] <nosralboo> ok ok
[07:00] <nosralboo> thank you
[07:00] <Blippe_> nosralboo, you should check the line -/+ buffers/cache....
[07:00] <Hawk|-> but mine
[07:00] <xeox> 138 mb used, not bad
[07:01] <korptix> whats the best firewall to use ?
[07:01] <Vashypooh> DarkFolken, I'd say just extract the ISO instead of burning it
[07:01] <enlightenedone> np
[07:01] <Blippe_> korptix,  i would guess that would be iptables since it is in the kernel!
[07:01] <enlightenedone> hope you don't get banned. LOL
[07:01] <odat> nosralboo, i good tool is in the add applictions menu its listed as system information  under system tools  you can add it through there
[07:02] <Blippe_> korptix, the gui to set it up (if you don't want to do it the hard way) is another matter.  I guess firestarter would be a good start
[07:02] <johndarkhorse> korptix: a firewall is not needed in a default install
[07:02] <korptix> nah i hate firestarter
[07:02] <javad> hi would you plz help me
[07:02] <javad> chrome://global/content/common/dialog.xul     line number1,column1
[07:02] <javad> javad what is this error inubuntu 5.10
[07:02] <javad> javad ?
[07:02] <javad> javad help me!!!!
[07:02] <javad> I have some error in ubuntu 5.10
[07:02] <korptix> well how do i edit kernel and edit it
[07:03] <Blippe_> you don't edit the kernel to set up a firewall...
[07:03] <korptix> i mean
[07:03] <korptix> no no no
[07:03] <korptix> i mean how do i edit kernel and recomplie it
[07:03] <Blippe_> you use the command iptable !
[07:03] <purserj> Hi everyone, just wondering if anybody has managed to get a SB Audigy LS working under breezy
[07:03] <d3mi4n> Howdy all, wondering if anyone could help me config my Airport extreme wireless card on my powerbook???I just installed breezy on it today?
[07:04] <Blippe_> korptix, start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[07:04] <korptix> ..
[07:04] <korptix> how do i edit it
[07:04] <javad> help me plz
[07:04] <Locke> how can i print out a manual page?
[07:05] <Blippe_> I guess you download the sources, but why do you wanna do that?
[07:05] <korptix> Locke : PrintScreenSySRq
[07:05] <korptix> why not Blippe_
[07:05] <Locke> kroptix: care to run that by me one more time?
[07:06] <d3mi4n> Howdy all, wondering if anyone could help me config my Airport extreme wireless card on my powerbook???I just installed breezy on it today?
[07:06] <korptix> Locke : hit PrintScreenSySRq
[07:06] <korptix> Locke : irs next to Scroll lock
[07:06] <korptix> *its
[07:06] <korptix> you mean screen shot right ?
[07:06] <Blippe_> well, for starters you don't know where to get the sources for the kernel, so i guess you wouldn't be too knowledgable about the rest of the system, but by all means go ahead, tinkering is the way to knowledge!
[07:07] <Locke> korptix... you can't be serious
[07:07] <korptix> ?
[07:08] <Blippe_> Locke do " man ls > bla.txt   " then print bla.txt?
[07:09] <Locke> Blippe_ i'd have no problem if i knew where the manual was for it
[07:09] <enlightenedone> Blippe_, do you know where the checksum value of the kernel is at kernel.org?
[07:09] <maxtnk> how add to start apach
[07:09] <Blippe_> nope
[07:09] <d3mi4n> Can anyone help me configure my Airport Wireless in my Powerbook for Linux plz??
[07:09] <defendguin> where can you change the setting where network drives and removable media get an icon on the desktop
[07:10] <defendguin> in gnome of course
[07:10] <Blippe> Locke which manual?
[07:10] <Locke> Blippe_ ping
[07:10] <odat> d3mi4n, did you check out ndiswrapper?
[07:10] <Blippe> man ping?
[07:10] <odat> or ndsiwrapper  something like that
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> odat, ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc
[07:11] <Blippe> man ping > bla.txt
[07:11] <d3mi4n> nicholaspaul: is there a way to get it to work on ppc?
[07:11] <Locke> Blippe: and where does that save it?
[07:12] <Blippe> to bla.txt in the folder you are situated with the terminal
[07:12] <Blippe> Locke, why do you want to print it?
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> d3mi4n, there is, but as far as i can tell, its a little unstable. I think it will only work with Dapper, which is what i'm using.
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> d3mi4n, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[07:13] <odat> nicholaspaul, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3389959
[07:13] <Locke> Blippe: reason A is because i want to test out my new printer and Reason B is... i'm bored
[07:14] <Blippe> defendguin, there is two ways, either by the preferences somewhere, which i don't know exactly, the second one with the configuration editor
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> odat - what am i meant to see?
[07:14] <odat> nicholaspaul, did you go to that page?
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> yes odat
[07:14] <odat> nicholaspaul, there are a couple links on that page that may be able to help you
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> odat, have you read them?
[07:15] <johndarkhorse> odat: there are drivers for the broadcom card
[07:15] <Blippe> defendguin, in configuration editor go apps - nautilus and there it is!
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> odat johndarkhorse there are. I have them. I got it working, but it seems unstable.
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> What was that URL where Linus was suggesting KDE, over Gnome? :)
[07:16] <Blippe> Psi-Jack didn't it have to do something about printing?
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> Ummm. Don't... Think so..
[07:16] <kenv> How can I get ubuntu to see dvd's? I hear the sound but cannot see the video.  i can se mpg files though.
[07:16] <gared> i have a problem with ntfs mounting. Can anyone help me?
[07:16] <Nihil85> hi! i cannot run my adsl connection under Ubuntu. I did pppoeconf, setted it right, i started the connection but nothing happens. Even if i try to ping a site, nothing really happens. What can i do?
[07:17] <odat> kenv, what player are you using?
[07:17] <kenv> totem
[07:17] <_clemens> Is there anyone online who can help with ejabberd? Thanks.
[07:17] <kenv> i do have realplayer also
[07:17] <Nihil85> 1 hours ago i was able to connect to internet, now no!!! why? why ubuntu is unstable?
[07:17] <gared> i used command "mount -w /dev/hda2 /mnt"
[07:17] <Nihil85> 1 hour*
[07:18] <odat> kenv, totem isn't really up to par yet  not that it won't be soon but i have found mplayer the all around by far the best player for everything
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, what version do you have?
[07:18] <Blippe> Psi-Jack printing dialog?
[07:18] <Nihil85> breeze
[07:18] <Nihil85> .10
[07:18] <Psi-Jack> I found it. http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html
[07:18] <Blippe> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[07:18] <gared> hmmm.
[07:18] <kenv> do you have a good install site for mplayer?
[07:18] <gared> is there anyone reading my msg?
[07:18] <odat> kenv, are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:19] <kenv> yes
[07:19] <Blippe> gared yes, ntfs mounting...
[07:19] <odat> kenv, do you have good repositories?
[07:19] <Blippe> !ntfs
[07:19] <cdubya> !ntfs
[07:19] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:19] <kenv> yes
[07:19] <gared> thank blippe.
[07:19] <Blippe> odat !source-o-matic
[07:19] <gared> my problem is i see all the file in my /mnt direct.
[07:19] <Blippe> ubotu tell odat about source-o-matic
[07:19] <gared> which is good.
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, Breezy is very stable. You shouldnt have any troubles connecting to the net. I have two machines with Breezy that have been running for weeks now.
[07:20] <odat> kenv, then i would do a search in there uninstall totem mozilla plugin if you have it installed  and install mplayer, mplayer mozilla plugin & mplayer font
[07:20] <gared> but i can't import file through the default music player in ubuntu
[07:20] <odat> Blippe, thanks but i don't need to know about that lol
[07:20] <gared> the music player does't see the file on /mnt.
[07:21] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, 1 hour ago i was connected to internet... now i moved the laptop from the living room to the bedroom and it doesn't work!!!! it's incredible
[07:21] <Blippe> sorry odat, just read your "ken*, do you have good repositories?" and thought you needed 'em..
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  on wifi?
[07:21] <Nihil85> no, no
[07:21] <Nihil85> i have an ethernet modem
[07:21] <Nihil85> adsl ethernet modem
[07:21] <Nihil85> so i use a cable
[07:21] <gared> so anyone knows how to fix my problem?
[07:21] <Blippe> sorsis, gared, you'ra able to browse the folders mounted?
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  then its prob not Ubuntu.
[07:22] <gared> yes
[07:22] <ssstormy> I have a harddrive that was originally detected as 200GB (which it is supposed to be) during the installation, but now for some reason it's only 180GB.  I was wondering, is this cause the partition table was written that way?  can I erase the partition table and repartition to get the right table at 200GB?
[07:22] <gared> from root terminal not from the music player
[07:22] <Nihil85> but why windows can be connected and ubuntu not? nicholaspaul, i'm confused about this OS
[07:22] <Blippe> gared and with nautilus?
[07:22] <gared> no
[07:22] <Blippe> gared without root acces...
[07:22] <gared> i just log on.
[07:22] <nicholaspaul> not sure Nihil85
[07:23] <Nihil85> uhmmmm
[07:23] <Nihil85> it's incredible
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  obviously, i would check your Networking settings.
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> and make sure you have a spare IP.
[07:23] <gared> you means i have to log in root on music player?
[07:23] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, i'vchecked ipconfig eth0
[07:23] <gared> how?
[07:24] <Blippe> ok, then the files are probably owned by "some else", you gotta chown them as su or root to the user you normally are!
[07:24] <Nihil85> everything seems to be like the last time
[07:24] <_clemens> ubotu:!ejabberd
[07:24] <ubotu> No idea, _clemens
[07:24] <floppyears> hi
[07:24] <floppyears> are mp3 files usually larger than ogg files ?
[07:24] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, network probs drive me nuts too! I would say its something obvious like a dodgy cable, clashing ip, stuff like that, but I wouldnt blame Ubuntu quite yet.
[07:25] <deFrysk> floppyears, yes
[07:25] <Blippe> gared, are you confused about using nautilus?
[07:25] <floppyears> deFrysk: may I ask why ?
[07:25] <Vashypooh> Anyone here to be able to help me combat ATI drivers
[07:25] <deFrysk> floppyears, ogg is recent tech mp3 is old tech
[07:25] <gared> what is nautilus?
[07:25] <floppyears> thanks :)
[07:25] <Nihil85> ssstormy, there's no possibility to gain taht 20gb, because this is a normal "translation"; 102kb =1mb, ecc ecc
[07:26] <gared> sorry, i am noob.
[07:26] <gared> :P
[07:26] <Blippe> that is the filebrowser, like explorer in windows...
[07:26] <gared> oh
[07:26] <Blippe> it is the program that is started when you clikc places in the menu at top!
[07:26] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, the problem is: why Ubuntu and not win?
[07:26] <Blippe> try using it to get to your ntfs-drive
[07:27] <gared> oh thank
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, Id say its your settings somewhere. i have a network with OSX, Windows and Ubuntu, and it all works fine. Most of my problems are with the Network Administrator! ;-)
[07:28] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, so why 1 hour ago it worked and now it doesn't work?
[07:28] <floppyears> is id3tag a command ?
[07:28] <Blippe> if you don't get to the files from there, but does from root-terminal, you got a problem with the ownership of the files
[07:28] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, fraid i cant tell ya. But i have to say that Breezy is perfectly stable.
[07:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85, most probably when u shifted from one room to other. your cable /clip must have been jacked..
[07:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  just check.
[07:28] <Blippe> floppyears, there is a prog which you are able to iinstall which have that name and is used in a terminal yes!
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85, i use a cable too, and i have no problems yet with connectivity.... using exatt .
[07:29] <gared> blippe, it said i don't have the permission.
[07:29] <Nihil85> s_spiff{AWAY}, the cable is ok, in fact i'm talking to you via internet
[07:29] <floppyears> Blippe: thank you
[07:29] <Blippe> gared, i guess i could say excellent now, because now we know the problem!
[07:29] <Nihil85> s_spiff{AWAY}, the only matter is that i have to boot windows to connect
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hmm.. u using pppoe?
[07:30] <Nihil85> yes
[07:30] <Nihil85> and i've done ppoeconf
[07:30] <gared> blippe, is there a default password for su.
[07:30] <gared> cause i never set up su password.
[07:30] <gared> i just set up the user and root.
[07:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}> so u do start the internet by 'pon dsl-provider' right?
[07:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85,
[07:31] <Nihil85> i setted it properly, i make an at boot connection, i started with pon dsl-provider
[07:31] <maxtnk> how start apatch
[07:31] <gared> i tried all su  password combination using my root pwd
[07:31] <Blippe> gared, the sudo passowrd is the same as your user password, and you shouldn't have setup a root-password, as the setup of ubuntu, kind of relies a its safety on that!
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[07:47] <Blippe> ugh
[07:47] <maxtnk> help me  how add to start apatch2
[07:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Psi-Jack about root
[07:47] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
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[07:47] <Nihil85> a little bit of demographic incrementation
[07:47] <Nihil85> a little moment of peace
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> Nihil85, you probably have a dodgy network cable
[07:47] <NoNamer> /usr/local/apache/logs/
[07:47] <Psi-Jack> johndarkhorse: I see nowhere in here where it says it'll break any functionality.
[07:47] <Nihil85> KrulleTrap, i don't think so because i was connected to the net withot problem under windows...
[07:47] <NoNamer> somebody asked for apachlogs
[07:47] <jariep1__> where can I find the web logs to apache 2 in ubuntu?
[07:47] <_clemens> Anyone here know anything about ejabberd?
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> Nihil85,  an on/off problem is usually hardware
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> jariep1__, it just told you /usr/local/apache/logs/
[07:47] <jariep1__> oh sorry
[07:47] <shad0w1e> Hi. I'm using an extremely stripped down system. How can I get it to auto-log me in?
[07:47] <jariep1__> RedGreenBlue, tha nk you
[07:47] <henry_> hello
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> np
[07:47] <Nihil85> KrulleTrap, an on/off problem also changing OS?
[07:47] <gared> thanks. i got it work now gksudo in run appliation
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> on/off as in: can't connect, do nothing and then get a connection
[07:47] <gared> thanks bliee and ubotu
[07:47] <iceraven> Is there a good doc/web page about moving from windows to ubuntu?
[07:47] <steve44> *hic*
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> gared, what did you start with gksudo?
[07:48] <CAHEK> Zdarova grajdane
[07:48] <henry_> does anyone know heaps about clamav in here?
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[07:48] <Psi-Jack> johndarkhorse: And, I don't see how it /could/ break anything. Just having direct access to root. Besides it "shouldn't be done" by just anyone, at any time, unless they know what they are doing, when they are doing it.
[07:48] <Krelbel> ...hmm.  quick question
[07:49] <Krelbel> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[07:49] <Krelbel> tells me to install
[07:49] <gared> i start with gksudo program-name in run application. cause i have to problem with the file system owner for the application.
[07:49] <Krelbel> Libraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[07:49] <vladuz976> will vista have an effect on linux? you guys think lots of ppl will go for the new windows?
[07:49] <Krelbel> but I don't see it in the synaptic list
[07:49] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: Ummm. Windows and Linux are two totally different beings.
[07:49] <Blippe> gared, why not give the acces to the normal user instead?
[07:50] <vladuz976> Psi-Jack: yeah, but lot's of ppl are dissapointed with security issues in xp, they might have turned to linux instead. but if vista promises to fix that?
[07:50] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: The fact that Linux is, and will always be free, and Windows Vista will start out around $300 or more, is one measurement that most people will have to do themselves. Windows users will still use Windows, obviously.
[07:50] <henry_> does clamav have a gui???????????
[07:50] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: Windows's security issues are extreme, and they won't be able to recover with just one new edition.
[07:51] <Psi-Jack> henry_: Not last time I checked. No. Why would it need one?
[07:51] <Krelbel> so... any ideas why gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse isn't available?
[07:52] <henry_> how does it work (im new to linux)
[07:52] <Nihil85> vladuz976, to set Windows ok with security, we have to change it in Linux
[07:52] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, if "noobs" start linux and everybody starts with root access and runs everything like that because it is easier, then we're closer to win's bad sides than we want to. That's a good reaseon to keep people from using the root account.
[07:52] <Psi-Jack> henry_: man clamav
[07:52] <vladuz976> Nihil85: lol
[07:52] <henry_> i dont have a clamav manual
[07:52] <palmerc> Well they have been working on Vista forever, so maybe they got it right. :) Really I think there will be some difficulty getting Windows XP users to move to Vista
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: But people here keep lying, and saying it'll "break things". When it, itself will not. It should be strongly discouraged, rather than flat-out lying about it.
[07:53] <Blippe> henry_, the clamav is for finding and destrying windows viruses and are quite useless on your linux machine!
[07:53] <Krelbel> is there a way i can update my distro?  i installed off a hoary cd
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Not if you run a mailserver, using clamscan for the AV. :)
[07:53] <vladuz976> Psi-Jack: 300 bucks is some serious money. i wonder how dell and all those are gonna deal with it. coz then their stuff will have to go up to since they ship with windows
[07:53] <henry_> Im using my linux machine a mail server and im hopping clamav will stop viruses before they get to my linux machine
[07:54] <Blippe> I don't really know if it will break things, but have been told so... :D but yeah, i see what you are meaning..
[07:54] <dusik> vladuz976: dell, etc. get OEM pricing :)
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: That's easy. Dell, HP, Gateway, etc, get it at OEM pricing.
[07:54] <Krelbel> vladuz976: ...yeah what dusik said
[07:54] <Krelbel> so
[07:54] <Krelbel> how do I update my distro :D?
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Yeah. It really actually pisses me off, seeing lies like that spread, for absolutely no reason. :)
[07:54] <Blippe> Psi-Jack... I just might try to run a mailserver just cause of that now...
[07:54] <deicidus> hi everyone. i just installed ubuntu, and my first problem is that i can't right click or scroll with two fingers. can anyone help?
[07:55] <Blippe> deicidus, does it work with one finger?
[07:55] <corza> hey guys i just tried installing firefox 1.5 from the guide on the ubuntu wiki.. and i get loads of errors and now it wont open.
[07:56] <deicidus> Blippe, what do you mean? im using an ibook g4, so it has one button and normally you can scroll with two fingers
[07:56] <vladuz976> deicidus: have you tried with one finger?
[07:56] <shad0w1e> anyone know how I can have my system autologin (without kdm or gdm)?
[07:56] <corza> i just tried installing firefox 1.5 from the guide on the ubuntu wiki.. and i get loads of errors and now it wont open.
[07:56] <henry_> use automatix
[07:56] <Nihil85> how much is an ibook?
[07:56] <Blippe> oh, you got an ibook, then i can't help you, i know nothing about them!
[07:57] <Blippe> !automatix
[07:57] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[07:57] <deicidus> vladuz976, you mean where the right edge will scroll? no.
[07:57] <deicidus> Blippe, ok, thanks anyway
[07:57] <corza> does anyone know about firefox 1.5??
[07:57] <Psi-Jack> corza: Yes, it's very nice.
[07:57] <Vashypooh> wow, what are going on with these servers today ;x
[07:57] <Blippe> henry_ saw what ubotu just told you? Don't use automatix, and don't encourage others to either!
[07:57] <corza> Psi_jack: yes but i'm getting errors when i try to run it
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> !firefox1.5
[07:58] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:58] <uenyioha> is there any way to disable the ubuntu automount?
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> corza: Try following that guide.
[07:58] <corza> i did
[07:58] <corza> all i get is errors now
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> corza: You didn't follow it correctly, then..
[07:58] <Nihil85> how much is an ibook?
[07:58] <corza> Psi-Jack i did every single step
[07:58] <deicidus> around $1000
[07:59] <Blippe> uenyioha gnome-volume-manager handles the automounts, but if you just don't want the mounted volumes showing up on your desktop, that is easier to fix!
[07:59] <henry_> croza: so did i and it worked
[07:59] <corza> well up to: try it out, i typed in firefox and got like 100 errors
[07:59] <Psi-Jack> corza: I followed it to the T, and it worked fine.
[07:59] <deicidus> nihil, around $1000, but make sure you wait and get the new intel ones that are coming out soon
[07:59] <Nihil85> deicidus, thanks
[07:59] <uenyioha> i want to connect my ipod to my laptop
[07:59] <czr> deicidus, they will be cheaper?
[07:59] <varsendagger> hey what is the launcer that looks like osx called?
[07:59] <Krelbel> hey, how do I upgrade from hoary to breezy?  ubuntuguide.org says one thing, but help.ubuntu.com says that the same thing will update me to Breezy +1, which I don't want
[07:59] <Nihil85> deicidus, whaaaaaaaaat!?!!?!? to buy something palladium-like?!?!?!!?
[07:59] <uenyioha> but i dont want the automount to kick in mount the drive
[08:00] <Blippe> czr they will have more support for linux
[08:00] <Vashypooh> anyone here wanna try to help me with my ATI issues? =x
[08:00] <czr> Blippe, based on what?
[08:00] <czr> it's perfectly possible to do closed hardware design with intel as well
[08:00] <Krelbel> i just want breezy so i can follow help.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <deicidus> czr, maybe a little, but more importantly they will have the new processor and not become obsolete as fast
[08:00] <nicholaspaul> Krelbel, go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change 'hoary' to 'breezy'
[08:00] <henry_> anyone know how to stop events from showing xchat
[08:00] <Krelbel> nicholaspaul, won't that take me to breezy +1?
[08:00] <Krelbel> that's what help.ubuntu.com says
[08:00] <Psi-Jack> Has anyone here heard of Intel's new modular BIOS replacement they're coming up with?
[08:00] <Blippe> I don't know, that is what i've been told , and as you have seen earlier today, I beleive every stupid thing i hear!
[08:00] <czr> deicidus, everything becomes obsolete :-) but yea, that might be a point
[08:00] <deicidus> nihil85, well it's up to you, but i'd wait until the next product announcement for the ibook replacement before buying, for sure
[08:00] <nicholaspaul> krelbel, oh ok, i'm not aware of +1.. sorry.
[08:00] <czr> Psi-Jack, it's called EFI and not that new
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> im so happy
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, phoenix and microsoft did an x86-EFI implementation around 2000-2001
[08:01] <nicholaspaul> why?
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, EFI is used in itaniums currently. very nice system IMHO
[08:01] <Krelbel> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch11.html <-- that's what it says
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Oh.. Well.. Didn't hear about that. :)
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> finally got ubuntu installed on my pc. damn benq based cd roms
[08:01] <Krelbel> which is confusing
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> they like to break installs
[08:01] <Krelbel> i just want breezy, not breezy +1 xD
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, marketing always spins everything as 'new and exciting'. no wonder :-)
[08:01] <varsendagger> hey what is the launcer that looks like osx called?
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah, I read about it on google news the other day. :)
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> krelbel does it say what the diff between +1 and reg. breezy is?
[08:02] <czr> it's like remote desktops in windows, "woo, never before were you able to use graphical desktops over the network". like, excuse me :--)
[08:02] <Krelbel> says +1 will break your system
[08:02] <Krelbel> and regular breezy won't
[08:02] <Krelbel> xD
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> oh...
[08:02] <varsendagger> that does the bigger icons?
[08:02] <Krelbel> 11.1.
[08:02] <Krelbel> How to upgrade from Breezy Badger to Breezy Badger +1 (experimental)?
[08:02] <Krelbel>
[08:02] <Krelbel> [Warning]
[08:02] <Krelbel> This is still in very early, highly unstable development stage. Only use it for experimental purposes. Doing this will most likely break your entire system!
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> please dont paste here....
[08:02] <Krelbel> sorry
[08:02] <czr> krebel, that might mean dapper (the +1)
[08:02] <Krelbel> didn't know it was 5 lines
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> np. some people get excited... ;)
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: Heh, I'm more impressed, seeing KDE, and even apparently Gnome too, using a standardized protocol. VNC, for sharing the actual logged-in account, using xrfb.
[08:03] <varsendagger> i mean the zooming icons
[08:03] <Blippe> what is the +1
[08:03] <czr> Psi-Jack, yeah, too sad they chose to implement something totally insecure as the default
[08:03] <corza> Psi-Jack: i ran through the guide properly. but it still comes up with errors.
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: How is it insecure?
[08:04] <czr> Psi-Jack, all data is sent as is without encryption or authentication
[08:04] <czr> and the 'login' is using weak authentication to start with without MITM-protection
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> czr: Hmmm.. I see. Yeah, that would make it insecure alright. Over sniffable networks at least.
[08:04] <lapducky> Holy Quackers -- even kill -1 -1  just restarts the installer!
[08:04] <Krelbel> argh, i just want media playing working :(
[08:04] <czr> Psi-Jack, all LANs are sniffable
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, and only crazy people would run VNC over public networks (internet)
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes. IF the intruder is within the LAN.
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, see above point
[08:05] <lapducky> They've tried to make Dapper indestructible by normals means (somebody get me some Draconic kryptonite!)
[08:05] <czr> bruteforcing VNC is quite easy too, since the authentication is weak
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> czr: That's what a good IPSEC or VPN tunnel is good for. :)
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, and kde/gnome use that by default? ;--)
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> czr: That's not up to KDE/Gnome. That's totally different.
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, I know. the problem is the 'by default' thing
[08:06] <Vashypooh> Anyone want to try to help me work out some of my ATI problems
[08:06] <Krelbel> so... hate to interrupt, but can you help me update to breezy? >_>
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, I like the approach that nm! took with NX
[08:06] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia setup complaining bout gcc4?
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, specialized low-bandwidth X over ssh
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> czr: Well, "by default", KDE's remote desktop, xrfb, is by invitation only using an OTP.
[08:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, that is about the only thing that is done right there (OTP) :-)
[08:07] <Blippe> One time password?
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yep yep.. heh.  VNC never claimed to be secure. in fact, it cannot be :-). automatic tunneling trough ssh wouldn't have been that hard to implement though
[08:08] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Check your browser. I'm sure you'll find a couple there. :)
[08:08] <Blippe> i'm out of cookies
[08:08] <czr> cookie even
[08:08] <Blippe> thanks!
[08:08] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia setup complaining bout gcc4?
[08:09] <Blippe> should we stop blabbering and see if people with problems start asking questions again?
[08:09] <czr> blippe, like that would ever stop? ;-)
[08:09] <maruchan> someone told me that gaim has themes is that true
[08:09] <maruchan> ?
[08:10] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia driver install complaining bout gcc4? anyone???
[08:10] <czr> maruchan, http://www.google.fi/search?q=gaim+themes&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[08:10] <Blippe> maruchan, check out gaim.sourceforge.net and check for yourself
[08:10] <egkamp> nboundd: perhaps you could install the gcc it wants?  just a thought
[08:10] <nbound> egkamp, it wants the old gcc3.4
[08:11] <czr> although I think that the themes means actually icon themes
[08:11] <czr> gaim is a gtk software though, you could use gtk themes if you want to break a working UI design
[08:11] <Krelbel> sorry, can anyone help me upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[08:11] <Blippe> Krelbel,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:12] <czr> the upgrade might break some things
[08:12] <czr> that was my experience at least
[08:12] <Krelbel> well, i just formatted yesterday
[08:12] <czr> install 5.10 directly then
[08:12] <Thinkingman> anyone got time to help a semi-noob with mount and permissions issues?
[08:12] <Krelbel> so worst come to worst, i can just download/burn the 5.10 cd
[08:12] <Krelbel> yeah
[08:12] <czr> might be less painful in the long run
[08:12] <Krelbel> probably
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, what's your problem?
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, when you mount something manually only root can access the files?
[08:13] <Thinkingman> hey
[08:13] <Thinkingman> took the words right from my mouth
[08:13] <maxtnk> what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:13] <Thinkingman> what am I missing?
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, then you're probably mounting something non-unixy
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, ntfs, vfat, iso?
[08:13] <Thinkingman> smbfs
[08:13] <Thinkingman> a windows smb share
[08:14] <czr> right, give me a sec, I'll check the opts you need
[08:14] <Thinkingman> k thanx
[08:14] <czr> the base problem is that windows doesn't implement unix access rights
[08:14] <czr> or ownerships. so the only thing that you can do on linux side is fake that some user owns all the files
[08:14] <czr> by default that one user is root
[08:14] <Thinkingman> I understand that, and I've tried blowing permissions wide open on both sides
[08:14] <czr> Thinkingman, very bad idea ;-)
[08:14] <Thinkingman> oh yeah, just for testing, ;)
[08:15] <Thinkingman> I'm studying for my CISSP and I had to laugh a little when I did that
[08:15] <czr> heh
[08:16] <czr> some filesystem drivers have special options in order to set the perms, masks and ownerships
[08:16] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:16] <czr> in this case you'd want to know what smbfs supports
[08:16] <czr> however, smbfs mounting is really implemented using smbmount, so check that manpage
[08:16] <czr> probably -o uid=foo,gid=bar
[08:16] <Thinkingman> I've already tried those options
[08:16] <czr> what happens?
[08:16] <Thinkingman> and it mounts
[08:17] <Thinkingman> and I can read, but not write as anyone but root
[08:17] <czr> so it's a local problem (as opposed to windows/ntfs-problem)
[08:17] <Thinkingman> I'm pretty sure
[08:17] <czr> your access rights are probably wrong then. what do you use for perms?
[08:17] <czr> it is, since writes succeed
[08:17] <Thinkingman> well normally 755, but I've tried setting 777 and that even fails
[08:17] <Krelbel>  Change your repositories to look for Breezy
[08:17] <czr> windows only thinks that user X is connected (the username parameter in smbfs)
[08:18] <Krelbel> how do I do that >_>
[08:18] <Thinkingman> and 755 should work for the user I'm logged in as
[08:18] <czr> Thinkingman, you on the host right now?
[08:18] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:18] <Vashypooh> anyone wanna help me combat this problem please? : error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:18] <czr> Thinkingman, if so, would you mind doing ls -lad /path/to/mointpoint
[08:18] <Thinkingman> yeah no prob
[08:18] <Krelbel> it's probably glaringly easy
[08:18] <Krelbel> i'm just not seeing it
[08:18] <Madpilot_elsewhe> Vashypooh, have you searched for that file? Does it actually exist?
[08:18] <czr> Krelbel, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources
[08:19] <Krelbel> it says change your repositories to look for breezy, but i can't see where
[08:19] <Vashypooh> yea, I have found it listed in a few places
[08:19] <Krelbel> ah
[08:19] <czr> sources.list even
[08:19] <Thinkingman> czr: drwxr-xr-x  1 root root 4096 2006-01-14 13:53 /mnt/bartc
[08:19] <Krelbel> thanks
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, at the moment it is mounted with root.root then
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, no wonder only root can write :-)
[08:19] <sagarp> i recently did dist-upgraded to dapper, but my X server wont start...it says it cant find kbd or mouse :(
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, give me a sec, I'll give you the magic blurb
[08:19] <Thinkingman> you got it
[08:19] <Vashypooh> it exists in /lib
[08:19] <Vashypooh> it does not however exist in lib32
[08:19] <Thinkingman> if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to figure out the why in addition to the how
[08:19] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:20] <czr> Thinkingman, can you privmsg me the mount command line you used (without the password if you gave one on command line)
[08:20] <Vashypooh> Im on 64bit Ubuntu, do you think i should copy it into /lib32?
[08:20] <Thinkingman> czr: no prob
[08:20] <Vashypooh> and actually, i dont see it in /lib64 ._.;;;;;
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, the program you're trying to run is a 32-bit binary so it cannot use 64-bit libs. instead it looks for the libs in lib32
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, so you should install the 32-bit versions of libs
[08:21] <FarrisG> Is there a safe/sane way to get 2.6.15 on a currently-breezy box?
[08:21] <czr> copying the 64-bit version will not work
[08:21] <Vashypooh> Sounds easy enuf, can you assist me in that process (Sorry im still fairly new)
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, not really :-). don't even know whether ubuntu supports mixed bit libs
[08:21] <Vashypooh> ._.;;
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, so far all my boxes have been pure 32-bit or pure 64-bit
[08:22] <Vashypooh> I'm trying to install the ATI drivers
[08:22] <shad0w1e> how do I change my computer to start up in X mode?
[08:22] <czr> Vashypooh, they won't work if they're 32-bit
[08:22] <maxtnk> what add in autothread of the program?
[08:22] <Vashypooh> ._.;
[08:22] <codeant> Hi, all
[08:22] <Vashypooh> does that mean I'm going to need to switch to 32 bit? ><
[08:23] <maxtnk> Vashypooh: only 24 bit
[08:23] <Vashypooh> I was hopeing to remain on 64bit, i was hopeing to get most out of my new proc
[08:24] <Vashypooh> the libgl.so.1 exists in /usr/lib as well
[08:25] <sagarp> has anyone heard of the error, where X cant find the kbd or mouse drivers, even though i've installed xserver-xorg-input-kbd/mouse??
[08:25] <bretzel> Hi there! using DapperFlight2 very fresh installation and have to manually do < ifup eth0 >  ...
[08:26] <maxtnk> that nobody does not know what add in loading apatch2 and squid?
[08:26] <trappist> sagarp: I had that problem on dapper once
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: did you solve it?
[08:27] <maxtnk>  that nobody does not know what add in loading apatch2 and squid?
[08:27] <trappist> sagarp: the driver packages were missing the actual drivers.  I solved it by wiping out and quitting dapper.
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: ah i see =/
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: would changing "dapper" to "breezy" in sources.list and then dist-upgrading work?
[08:28] <Madpilot_elsewhe> maxtnk, repeating your question endlessly isn't likely to get faster answers...
[08:28] <trappist> sagarp: no, you can't downgrade
[08:28] <sagarp> trappist :(
[08:28] <garry> Nor would it magically enlighten those who don't know, tho it would be nice if it did.
[08:28] <sagarp> trappist: could i get kbd/mouse and install them?
[08:28] <trappist> sagarp: you might try apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and see if the problem has been fixed
[08:29] <sagarp> trappist: well i jsut did this last night...do you think it would be solved by now?
[08:29] <trappist> sagarp: it would be some pretty quick turnaround time, but it's worth a shot
[08:30] <lightbright> how can i wipe or totally securely format hdb?
[08:30] <maxtnk> Madpilot_elsewhe: want the answer, question I consider the idle time, I earlier was on gentoo has solved to try ubuntu and appeared the questions.
[08:30] <lightbright> ant ideas anyoner?
[08:30] <sagarp> trappist: hmm do you think the breezy packages for those would work out?
[08:30] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: visit dban.sourceforge.net and read carefully
[08:30] <ssstormy> lightbright, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:31] <jariep1___> i'm looking through my web log, how can I find the location of an IP address according to region?
[08:31] <lightbright> ssstormy:  what?
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb
[08:31] <ssstormy> lightbright, just use that command, starting from the "dd" part
[08:31] <ssstormy> in a terminal
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: do that half a dozen times and it'll be pretty unrecoverable
[08:31] <ssstormy> it will set every single bit in the device to "0"
[08:31] <lightbright> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb  <--  this wipes the hdb?
[08:31] <Vashypooh> Guess im gonna go reload into 32bit ;-;
[08:31] <ssstormy> lightbright, /dev/urandom and /dev/null are special
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: it overwrites the whole thing with random bits
[08:31] <lightbright> trappist: is it dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb   or as ssstormy said?
[08:32] <ssstormy> urandom is random
[08:32] <ssstormy> bits
[08:32] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: visiting dban.sourceforge.net is an option, also
[08:32] <ssstormy> null is all 0
[08:32] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: ok
[08:32] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, that's less exciting than command prompt :)
[08:32] <trappist> lightbright: /dev/null or /dev/zero will zero it out.  /dev/random or /dev/urandom will write random bits.
[08:32] <lightbright> ssstormy: so you also recommend dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb ?
[08:33] <lightbright> trappist: which is most secure?
[08:33] <nbound> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:33] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
[08:33] <trappist> lightbright: of those four, either urandom or random - I forget which is more random :)
[08:33] <Madpilot_elsewhe> lightbright, if you want to securely delete stuff, there's also the "shred" util - try "man shred" for details
[08:34] <trappist> yeah, shred will accomplish pretty much the same thing
[08:34] <egkamp> doesn't shred have issues on journaled filesystems?
[08:34] <trappist> but iirc it operates on files, not devices
[08:34] <ssstormy> lightbright, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:34] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: dban.sourceforge.net has a bootable disk that will cleanse your whole system
[08:34] <Madpilot_elsewhe> trappist, you can use it on an entire partition
[08:34] <Vashypooh> Question: When I reinstall to Ubuntu 32bit from the 64 bit. What is Grub gonna do?
[08:34] <ssstormy> is probably the most secure
[08:34] <trappist> Madpilot_elsewhe: cool
[08:34] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: ok
[08:34] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, that might screw him accidentally if he wants to keep hda or something
[08:34] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: but i need to keep dha
[08:35] <lightbright> hda
[08:35] <egkamp> Vashypooh: have you considered installing the 64 bit ATI RPM?
[08:35] <ssstormy> lightbright, then make damn well sure you unplug your hda disk before using dban
[08:35] <lightbright> ssstormy:  dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb   or   dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb ?
[08:35] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah but don't do urandom
[08:35] <lightbright> ssstormy: why?
[08:36] <lightbright> trappist: said its ok
[08:36] <ssstormy> well, that will leave the disc scattered full of junk
[08:36] <Vashypooh> I installed ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run
[08:36] <ssstormy> I suppose it dosn't matter
[08:36] <lightbright> ssstormy:  ok, ill do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:36] <jariep1___> how do i disable ACPI in ubuntu/kubuntu, as I want to have a web server running all the time?
[08:36] <nbound> what comman do i use to set the CC to 3.4
[08:36] <ssstormy> but it would seem to me a zeroed disk would be better
[08:36] <nbound> command*
[08:36] <Madpilot_elsewhe> interesting - I just realized that the LiveCD runs on UTC - no option to pick timezone during the boot sequence
[08:37] <lightbright> ssstormy:  ok, ill type: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:37] <ssstormy> jariep1___, install BUM and disable acpi
[08:37] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah
[08:37] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, maybe u can add it at the boot command line =S
[08:37] <lightbright> ok ty
[08:37] <lightbright> bye
[08:37] <nbound> what command do i use to set the system to gcc3.4
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> nbound: before your command type "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 COMMAND"
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> nbound: please don't repeat so often
[08:38] <nbound> johndarkhorse, what if i want to do it pernamently
[08:38] <jariep1___> ssstormy, thanks
[08:38] <Madpilot_elsewhe> nbound, you might be able to - I might look into that - I'm housesitting w/ only a cranky Win98 computer...
[08:38] <geneo93> i need some network help like dhcp just dont work
[08:38] <trappist> nbound: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:38] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, heeh =P
[08:38] <ssstormy> geneo93, over wireless?
[08:38] <trappist> nbound: wait don't do that!
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> nbound: then put "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 into your ~/.bashrc
[08:39] <SFlirting> how can I instal .deb files?
[08:39] <geneo93> no firewall router ssstormy
[08:39] <trappist> nbound: it's sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[08:39] <trappist> got it backwards :)
[08:39] <Madpilot_elsewhe> nbound, this machine runs the Breezy LiveCD about as fast as it runs the installed Win98, which says something about how messed up Win98 is...
[08:39] <geneo93> forcing me to use something else
[08:39] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, lol, thats not good at all :O
[08:39] <egkamp> Vashy: after you ran ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run, did you run /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxconfig
[08:39] <ssstormy> geneo93, wait so is it a router you buy off a shelf, or a computer router?
[08:39] <nbound> johndarkhorse, trappist thanx
[08:40] <egkamp> Vashypooh: after you ran ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run, did you run /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxconfig
[08:40] <geneo93> i dont know why networking in ubuntu is so fscked up
[08:40] <Vashypooh> No, I was advised by everyone to not go anywhere near that
[08:40] <ssstormy> geneo93, actually it's pretty awsome for me
[08:41] <geneo93> well i have a zonet router firewall works great with everything else but ubuntu
[08:41] <ssstormy> how are you connecting?
[08:42] <geneo93> i did the edit of modprobe.alilieses
[08:42] <geneo93> cable modem
[08:42] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary one again?
[08:42] <ssstormy> I mean, how do you connect to the router? cat5?
[08:42] <egkamp> Vashypooh: the ATI site install instructions indicate that after running the installer script you still need to to configure the driver, but listen to people who know
[08:42] <geneo93> eth0
[08:42] <geneo93> yes
[08:42] <JaZy84> how can you mount an iso ?
[08:43] <Vashypooh> Egkamp, its installed and im in Ubuntu using fglxr
[08:43] <ssstormy> geneo93, I never had to do any modprobe config
[08:43] <Vashypooh> the problem is those libs
[08:43] <ssstormy> use system->admin->networking
[08:43] <lapducky_> You should also have a mapping section, and ifupdown should be called by init.
[08:43] <bretzel> ...Upgrading Dapper -- lots of stuff! ;_)
[08:43] <ssstormy> so long as the device is ifconfig _name_ up  eed
[08:43] <Vashypooh> egkamp, can you please check this http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198 and check the 3rd attachment
[08:43] <geneo93> i need the dhcp working for other boxes that aren't here atm
[08:43] <lapducky_> bretzel
[08:43] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary change of gcc command again?
[08:43] <ssstormy> JaZy84, mount file.iso /flolder -o loop
[08:44] <geneo93> just to disable ipv6
[08:44] <lapducky_> Heh, drop and reconnect here so quickly that I can't tell that I've dropped -- I don't even ping-lag out
[08:44] <ssstormy> JaZy84, you might also have to add -t iso9660 to that
[08:44] <Vashypooh> egkamp,  I do not understand anything it says to do, but that seems quite feasable for the issue?
[08:45] <nbound> ='(
[08:45] <bretzel> lapducky_
[08:45] <ssstormy> geneo93, hmm if you're using ipv6 I can't help :)  don't know anything about v6
[08:45] <geneo93> ssstormy:  i've been at this for weeks
[08:45] <cafuego_> nick cafuego
[08:45] <ardchoille> how do I get glxgears to print fps to stdout?
[08:45] <drummer87> hi all, i want to separate my / and /home partitions, can i just copy everything but /home to a separate partition and then edit grub's menu.lst?
[08:45] <geneo93> ardchoille:  in terminal
[08:45] <gared> nick myself
[08:46] <cafuego> ardchoille: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:46] <ardchoille> glxgears does not print fps to stdout in gnome-terminal on my Ubuntu 5.10
[08:46] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary change of gcc command again?
[08:46] <cafuego> ardchoille: yes, that's not a bug.
[08:47] <ardchoille> cafuego: so how do I get it to print fps?
[08:47] <cafuego> ardchoille: If you wonder why, read the parameter I just gave you.
[08:47] <nbound> anyone know the temporary change of gcc command?
[08:47] <j> Hello.  Can anyone recommend a good iso burner for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <bretzel> hum ... Forgot about: -- Is the NVidia accel driver for Drapper ???
[08:47] <nbound> j, gnomebaker will do the job
[08:47] <ssstormy> drummer87, you don't have to edit grub.  edit /etc/fstab
[08:47] <Madpilot_catsit> j, just right click on your ISO in the file manager, and select "Burn To Disc"
[08:48] <dd> Hi please someone help im going insane.  I changed the IP of my ubuntu server... to a new static IP... Now I can ping everying interally but not external.  Can someone please help me
[08:48] <ssstormy> gnomebaker is evil, and so is xcdroast
[08:48] <ssstormy> I need one that can burn iso's- especially dvd isos
[08:48] <geneo93> use gcombust
[08:48] <cafuego> dd: You forgot to update the default gateway IP on the client machines?
[08:48] <ssstormy> gcombust
[08:48] <ssstormy> ok
[08:48] <nbound> can someone tell me how to use a different version of gcc for one command
[08:48] <ardchoille> cafuego: ok, I thought you were messing with me. Thank you for your patience :)
[08:49] <dd> cafuego not its on the ubuntu server... im at the CML and i ping www.google.com or any webiste it will not go, but if i ping internally it works
[08:49] <Madpilot_catsit> nbound, I thought someone already told you?  If the routing is messed, how can i fix it?
[08:50] <nbound> Madpilot_catsit, before i could write it down ='(
[08:50] <geneo93> well i have some network issues
[08:50] <lapducky_> (and it's bundled with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu, of course)
[08:50] <adwait> hello all
[08:50] <Madpilot_catsit> nbound, johndarkhorse said "before your command type "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 COMMAND"
[08:50] <cafuego> dd: You start by checking it, to make sure the default route is correct.
[08:50] <nbound> Madpilot_catsit, thank you ver much :D
[08:50] <lapducky_> ;-)
[08:50] <dd> cafuego... forgive my ignorance... how can i check that?
[08:51] <dd> with the route command?
[08:51] <adwait> dd: yup
[08:51] <dd> I did that
[08:51] <dd> and it looks good
[08:51] <dd> at least i think it does
[08:51] <Madpilot_catsit> lapducky_, pity me, I'm forced to run the Ubuntu LiveCD on a relative's computer (and look after four cats and one Doberman...) :P
[08:51] <adwait> dd: i just came........could u repeat ur problem?
[08:52] <lapducky_> dd, packets are not going through your gateway, if you can ping locally but not the Inet
[08:52] <dd> Ok, i changed my static IP address, now since i have done that all i can do is ping internal ips, noting external
[08:52] <dd> but I am able to SSH in over the internet
[08:52] <j> sorry, I had to get off for a second.  Would it burn the ISO properly if I just right-clicked->Write to disk?
[08:52] <dd> so incomming is working, but not outgoing
[08:52] <dd> when i run route i get this <IP_ADDRESS>     *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[08:52] <dd> default         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[08:52] <Madpilot_catsit> j, it should - it always has for me...
[08:53] <adwait> right.....so as lapducky_ said, something wrong with ur gateway
[08:53] <lapducky_> Madpilot_catsit, maybe if you didn't sit on them they'd be easier to get along with.
[08:53] <albacker> !unrar
[08:53] <ubotu> I don't know, albacker
[08:53] <albacker> !rar
[08:53] <ubotu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[08:53] <FlannelKing> what hex editor/ASM viewer do you all use?
[08:53] <adwait> <IP_ADDRESS> being the router?
[08:53] <dd> adwait
[08:53] <dd> no
[08:53] <dd> <IP_ADDRESS> is the router
[08:53] <lapducky_> ubotu, tell dd about pastebin
[08:53] <gared>  hi, i try to install the gstreamer,
[08:53] <Madpilot_catsit> lapducky_, har har, spare me that subtle Albertan humour :)
[08:53] <j> thanks for the help.  I'll try that
[08:53] <gared> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8 mad
[08:53] <dd> lapducky sorry i didnt thing it was that much to paste
[08:54] <adwait> is the router correctly configured?
[08:54] <dd> adwait yes the router looks good
[08:54] <gared> what is the new vision of gstreamer?
[08:54] <adwait> try telnetting into the router and pinging an extenal IP from there.......
[08:54] <dd> all other pc's connected to the router can access the internet with out issue
[08:54] <adwait> aah ok
[08:54] <lapducky_> adwait, three carriage returns is a good rule-of-thumb when the channel is moderately busy.
[08:54] <gared> i can't find the packet through debian packet search, the link is down.
[08:54] <KrulleTrap> dd, did you check /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:54] <lapducky_> err I meant dd, adwait
[08:54] <adwait> aah
[08:55] <dd> its just the ubuntu box that cant hit external IP's
[08:55] <dd> KrulleTrap, nope what should i be looking for?
[08:55] <KrulleTrap> the correct dns server ips
[08:55] <lapducky_> dd would you like to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic where it's less busy (but many of the same people are there)/
[08:55] <cafuego> Yah, did you mess up the gateway stanza in the interfaces file?
[08:55] <geneo93> dd:  sounds like you have same problem as i do
[08:55] <dd> whooooooo
[08:55] <j> It keeps saying "An error occurred when writting"
[08:55] <dd> KrulleTrap
[08:55] <dd> NICE
[08:56] <dd> its got my old router IP in there :)
[08:56] <KrulleTrap> ok
[08:56] <npfet> anywhere here use cedega?
[08:56] <dd> that the problem?
[08:56] <KrulleTrap> probably, if it's the one on top anyway
[08:56] <nbound> looks like when the system upgraded gcc3.4 went bye byes
[08:56] <npfet> (looking for general opinions of it, not support or anything)
[08:56] <FlannelKing> anyone know of a reasonable hex editor/dissassembler? or am I going to have to brave it on my windows box?
[08:57] <Vashypooh> can someone asist me with this http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198
[08:57] <j> what was the iso burner recommened earlier?
[08:57] <dd> KrulleTrap what do do after fixing it? Reboot?
[08:57] <Vashypooh> What exactly am i supposed to do with what it gives me
[08:57] <adwait> FlannelKing: ghex is a hex editor for gnome
[08:57] <KrulleTrap> dd, restart networking?
[08:58] <dd> oh im gonna be so happy if this works :)
[08:59] <j> would you mind repeating the iso burner you recommended just a second ago?
[09:00] <dd> KrulleTrap do you have PayPal i want to send you money, your fix worked :)
[09:00] <dd> PM me
[09:00] <Madpilot_catsit> j - the right-click in the file manager burner?
[09:00] <KrulleTrap> dd, lol, it's not a 'fix', it's how it's supposed to work :-)
[09:00] <j> it didn't work.  It said something along the lines of "error burning the cd"
[09:00] <FlannelKing> adwait was looking for something with a disassembler view, honestly, but thanks.
[09:01] <adwait> FlannelKing: hehe ok
[09:01] <dd> I know but you had the solution i want to send you some money
[09:01] <dd> for your kindness and help
[09:01] <dd> its only fiar
[09:02] <geneo93> ssstormy:  my resolve.conf has proper info in it
[09:02] <ssstormy> can I trick gcombust into writing to /dev/hd's?  or do I just have to dd it myself?
[09:02] <KrulleTrap> dd tempting
[09:02] <ssstormy> geneo93, just use the network-admin program to make sure
[09:02] <ssstormy> it's really a nice little interface
[09:02] <ssstormy> unless you dont' have gnome installed that is
[09:02] <geneo93> well it wont work in kubuntu
[09:03] <FlannelKing> adwait, now that I think about it, anyone who would start writing something like that, would need a disassembler, or at least a language pack, or whantot, for each arch.  Although I suppose that wouldnt be too hard.  Just trying to hunt a virus, without it touching my windows box.
[09:03] <Locke> how can i empty the trash through terminal?
[09:04] <Eleaf> rm .trash I guess
[09:04] <adwait> FlannelKing: try ibew
[09:04] <adwait> FlannelKing: *biew
[09:04] <geneo93> ssstormy:  it has to do with resolving name
[09:04] <KrulleTrap> dd, if you d HAVE to send money pick some nice charity
[09:04] <adwait> Locke: rm .trash -r
[09:05] <FlannelKing> oh, look at that.  thanks.  shouldve probably searched for disassembler.
[09:05] <adwait> yup
[09:05] <adwait> FlannelKing: apt-cache search <search term>
[09:05] <FlannelKing> adwait, did that.  did hex edit, or hex, etc.  didt even think of searching for disassembler
[09:05] <Locke> adwait: no such file or directory
[09:06] <adwait> Locke: rm .Trash -r
[09:06] <adwait> the 'T' is capital
[09:06] <j> I'm trying gnomebaker, and it looks like it's working
[09:06] <j> thanks for the help anyways
[09:07] <Locke> adwait: i have a file that will not delete in my trash
[09:07] <adwait> Locke: well that command should delete the entire trash directory.....
[09:07] <Locke> it says write protected
[09:07] <adwait> Locke: if you want to remove a particular file there, use "cd .Trash" and then "rm <filename>"
[09:08] <adwait> Locke: then change its permission with "chmod +w <filename>"
[09:08] <geneo93> use sudo though
[09:09] <geneo93> i'm waiting for ideas on this network problem
[09:10] <adwait> geneo93: scolling up.....................u have some problem with name resolution?
[09:11] <geneo93> well in resolve.cong all there is correct and gateway and all the rest is right so i dunno what the hell is wrong
[09:11] <deicidus> hi everyone. i just installed ubuntu, and my first problem is that i can't right click or scroll with two fingers. can anyone help?
[09:12] <cafuego> scroll with two fingers?
[09:13] <deicidus> on a touchpad
[09:13] <adwait> geneo93:  resolv.conf .................ok, its all in the correct formar right? "nameserver <ip address">
[09:13] <geneo93> adwait:  yes
[09:13] <adwait> geneo93: maybe the nameservers are not reachable? try pinging them?
[09:14] <geneo93> no problem doing that
[09:14] <geneo93> i can even login too my router just cant get past it
[09:15] <adwait> geneo93: wierd........beyond the router u can ping with IPs but not with hostnames?
[09:15] <geneo93> no
[09:15] <zane> hi again
[09:16] <geneo93> it works fine with suse and mandriva
[09:16] <cafuego> your '.' is stuck.
[09:16] <adwait> geneo93: maybe the DNS servers configured in you router are not correct? in your /etc/resolv.conf , have you configured the router as the DNS server?
[09:16] <adwait> ko
[09:16] <adwait> *ok
[09:16] <geneo93> adwait:  yes
[09:16] <adwait> cafuego: :p
[09:17] <zane> has anyone here used gparted to repartition a hfs hdd?
[09:17] <ssstormy> hmm mkisofs reports back to me that it cannot make DVD-Video images
[09:17] <ssstormy> why is this?  do I need diff options?
[09:17] <adwait> geneo93: well, the configuration seems to be fine on the linux end.......the problem somehow seems to be with the router
[09:18] <geneo93> no it aint it works fine with everything but ubuntu
[09:19] <cyphase> are there that many people who think that GNOME and KDE should share as much common infrastructure as possible?
[09:19] <ssstormy> or... wait... how do I get mkisofs to build 9.4GB images?  I know we can't burn dual-layer dvd's, but can I make an image that would fit on dual-layer?
[09:20] <sascha__> weis jemand warum ich bei ubuntu 5.10 das men nnicht aktivieren kann ( ist aktivier (zb.entwicklung) erscheint aber nicht auch nicht nach einem neustart) linien einfgen im men geht aber )-:
[09:20] <geneo93> adwait:  whats really strange it works during install then quits after
[09:21] <johndarkhorse> !de
[09:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:22] <theneonshadow> ?
[09:22] <sascha__> tja ich bekomme nur keine channel list angezeigt
[09:22] <cyphase> johndarkhorse, i was just asking my cousin how to say that in german :P
[09:22] <theneonshadow> how nerdy
[09:23] <theneonshadow> dude is there an aim verson for Ubuntu linux
[09:23] <cyphase> theneonshadow, use Gaim
[09:23] <sascha__> oh now it works
[09:23] <theneonshadow> alrighty
[09:23] <Psi-Jack> theneonshadow: There's gaim (for GTK+/Gnome), Kopete (for KDE), and many others/
[09:23] <ssstormy>
[09:23] <theneonshadow> whats Gain
[09:23] <cyphase> http://gaim.sf.net/
[09:23] <geneo93> gaim
[09:23] <cyphase> theneonshadow, it's in the repositories
[09:24] <theneonshadow> ah i see
[09:24] <ssstormy>
[09:24] <theneonshadow> im new to linux
[09:24] <cyphase> theneonshadow, i should say, it's preinstalled when you install ubuntu
[09:24] <cyphase> in the Internet menu
[09:24] <ssstormy>
[09:24] <korptix> hi when i type sudo -i and login root why cant i see my files that i have from my username ?
[09:24] <johndarkhorse> ssstormy: english script here please
[09:24] <theneonshadow> well arnt you an smart bot
[09:24] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: Stop that!
[09:24] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, I was just jesting at the german speakers
[09:24] <cyphase> theneonshadow, do you mean me?
[09:25] <johndarkhorse> korptix: because it starts out in /root not your homedir
[09:25] <malv> what's a good IDE?
[09:25] <korptix> no
[09:25] <cyphase> malv, for that?
[09:25] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: That's not german. That's jibberish.
[09:25] <korptix> root@korptix:~/Desktop# ls
[09:25] <korptix> root@korptix:~/Desktop#
[09:25] <malv> cyphase: in general?
[09:25] <talios> malv, what language?
[09:25] <korptix> well johndarkhorse
[09:25] <ssstormy> Psi-Jack, I know, except it's japanese
[09:25] <malv> talios: c++
[09:25] <cyphase> malv, Anjuta is good
[09:26] <malv> talios: normally I just use vim and screen
[09:26] <Pec1> does anyone know how to fix this?: when i try booting up the ubuntu live cd, i had the boot stop when there was this scsi disk thing; "attached scsi disk sda at scsi 0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0".
[09:26] <deicidus> watcha typin in japanese for?
[09:26] <cyphase> malv, it's in the repositories
[09:26] <ssstormy> never shows up well in IRC clients, or on most computers in general
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: I see.. Hence the reason it's in double-byte characters.
[09:26] <deicidus> shows up fine here
[09:26] <cyphase> ssstormy, fine here
[09:26] <talios> malv, mmm, anjuta, kdevelop (if its still developed?) - eclipse has a good c++ module
[09:26] <e_machinist> Is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop? And if I do, what will be removed exactly?
[09:26] <ssstormy> well, awsome
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Hmm, what IRC client you using?
[09:26] <korptix> mm
[09:26] <korptix> hi when i type sudo -i and login root why cant i see my files that i have from my username ?
[09:26] <ssstormy> you guys must not have windows
[09:26] <korptix> .....
[09:26] <ssstormy> oops
[09:26] <ssstormy> oh yeah
[09:26] <ssstormy> XD that's why it's working
[09:26] <cyphase> e_machinist. it's safe, nothing will be removed excpet itself
[09:26] <theneonshadow> i dont like bots
[09:27] <e_machinist> cyphase: oh, I see. cool.
[09:27] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, XChat
[09:27] <ssstormy> korptix, cause you just logged in as root.  who'se home is /root
[09:27] <cyphase> except*
[09:27] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Hmm interesting.
[09:27] <deicidus> ssstormy: how did you enable japanese like that?
[09:27] <ssstormy> deicidus, well I installed uim (cause scim wasn't working for me)
[09:27] <ssstormy> and te fonts
[09:27] <korptix> ssstormy: i went to desktop and my files arnt there
[09:27] <ssstormy> and the desktop support for good measure
[09:27] <karl_> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:27] <deicidus> ssstormy: cool thanks
[09:27] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, i'm using 2.6.0 from backports
[09:28] <ssstormy> just search like "ja" in synaptic for the compat packages
[09:28] <cyphase> 2.4.4 is the usual one
[09:28] <korptix> ..
[09:28] <ssstormy> deicidus, also make sure to install the uim toolbar thingy, and use that to config.  right click on toolbar to add applets
[09:28] <sagarp> er how can i downgrade from dapper back to breezy :S
[09:28] <ssstormy> (after they've been installed)
[09:28] <theneonshadow> how do i register an account on gaim
[09:28] <ssstormy> theneonshadow, you don't
[09:29] <johndarkhorse> sagarp: back up your homedir and reinstall
[09:29] <ssstormy> use Yahoo! or AIM or anything you want
[09:29] <sagarp> =/
[09:29] <ssstormy> or you mean how to login/
[09:29] <ssstormy> ?
[09:29] <deicidus> ssstormy, cool, ill do that right now. i only just got this system running and i wanted to do it eventually
[09:29] <nbound> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:30] <ssstormy> deicidus, I warn you the compat files for open office are huge, and the ja docs are big too
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonsadow, only Jabber registration is supported in Gaim
[09:30] <talios> sagarp, change yoyr sources.list and manually apt-get install old packages I guess? :) :(
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow*
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow, everything else has to be done through the web interface
[09:30] <theneonshadow> whats the user name and password it askes for in gaim?
[09:30] <theneonshadow> what do i enter
[09:30] <talios> hows dapper looking currently?  I've been thinking of switching
[09:30] <sagarp> wow that's the epitome of tedious lol
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow, your user name and password for the network
[09:30] <theneonshadow> oh, makes sence
[09:31] <sagarp> i'm having problems getting the kbd/mouse to work with X11, apparently it cant find the drivers
[09:31] <talios> sagarp, theres always format-reinstall ;p
[09:31] <sagarp> =\
[09:32] <nbound> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE!?!?!?!?!
[09:32] <cyphase> Does anyone else think that GNOME and KDE should share as much common infrastructure as possible?
[09:32] <ssstormy> deicidus, you also have to restart X for the changes in language stuff to take effect
[09:32] <sagarp> nbound, remove linux-restricted-modules or somethign liek that...it has the older nvidia module in it
[09:32] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: HECK NO. Gnome has gone a bad path, and I think Gnome's days should end.
[09:32] <sagarp> nbound: then restart
[09:33] <nbound> sagarp: do you know which restricted one, afaik theres several
[09:33] <theneonshadow> holy cow
[09:33] <deicidus> ssstormy, ok ill give it a try. my airport extreme problem can wait a minute more...
[09:33] <sagarp> nbound, wel it should just be linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:33] <ssstormy> don't let me rush you
[09:34] <nbound> sagarp, thanx
[09:35] <ejofee> W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:35] <ejofee>   403 Forbidden
[09:35] <ejofee> any idea why?
[09:35] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, then imagine they were both great desktops
[09:35] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Sorry. The way Gnome has gone, I can't do that anymore. 2-3 years ago, sure. But today? Not at all.
[09:36] <ssstormy> ejofee, you're not allowed to read that file
[09:36] <ssstormy> Psi-Jack, and where has it gone?
[09:36] <cyphase> hmm
[09:36] <ejofee> ssstormy: i can see that, but... why?
[09:36] <ejofee> ssstormy: and what do i do?
[09:36] <ssstormy> ejofee, nothing really.  Find a different mirror.
[09:37] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: To "ease of use" through "obscurity". Hiding functionality into hidden resources, rather than making them fully available. It's wrong, uncalled for, and I don't see how anyone could like it.
[09:37] <ejofee> ssstormy: this is the only mirror! :(
[09:38] <ejofee> ssstormy: (thank you, anyway)
[09:39] <korptix> alot of things at www.rsh.srv.ro linux basied
[09:39] <korptix> u think they can tech me linux ?
[09:41] <Mestapheles> where's sses?  I think you guys owe him an apology.
[09:41] <Mestapheles> night all
[09:41] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, what was that about?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> What media player do people find best for dealing with a large library of music (a la iTunes and RhythmBox)?
[09:42] <KrulleTrap> 554 apologies? wow
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I kinda like Kaffiene, myself.
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: And amaroK for music.
[09:43] <dell500> anyone know the correct ipod setting in fstab for a video?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Did Darth just advertise downloading a Windows app here??
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> dell500: You just mount the iPod device itself.
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Will check those out, Psi-Jack.
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: DathDevilous must've been using Trillian for his IRC client.
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Ah, that could do it.
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> lol
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I use Kaffeine, with the xine engine, for video. It can even re-broadcast the feed. I haven't played with that feature yet. Going to soon. :)
[09:45] <dell500> Psi-Jack: I know, but I think there is a certain way of mounting it with certain permissions and options.
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> Psi-Jack: what did trillian do that makes that so obvious?
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: Your quit message:  [02:43]  * DarthDevilous<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")
[09:45] <ejofee> how do i find an alternative mirror for http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras ?
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> ah
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, I was a little confused, as Trillian doesn't run on Linux...
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: That's okay. I'm using mIRC right now, while I'm finishing the last of my windows backups I needed to do before wiping this HDD. :)
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Well, if he's anything like me, he could have multiple computers as well. You should see my media-server box.
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Oh, I don't doubt that.  My family has twice as many computers as people, and two of them dual-boot Ubuntu-Windows.
[09:48] <DarthDevilous> tonyyarusso: I'm a long-time win user trying to make the first step to linux... (ubuntu live cd)
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Aaah.  Very cool.  (I was where you are in August, when my disks came from ShipIt.)
[09:49] <omerix> i have installed wine but it doesn't work
[09:50] <omerix> and it also gives no error
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Being the computer-savvy person, I did many a recovery and reinstallation on Windows machines for my family and friends, so when I got my own computer for university, I started looking into Linux, as an alternative, and as a "hey, that sounds sort of interesting..." thing.
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Heh. In my house, I have 7 towers, a laptop, a TabletPC, a Casiopeia PocketPC, a RAID tower, and 4 4U rackmounts. :)
[09:50] <omerix> can you help me
[09:51] <DarthDevilous> o.O @ Psi-Jack
[09:52] <omerix> ?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, 6 laptops, 4 desktops.
[09:53] <Psi-Jack> My 4 4U rackmounts, plus the media-server tower, hook up to the RAID array as a SAN, because of the 2TB storage with RAID-5. The media-server itself is a Dual AMD64 with 2gb RAM, SLIx2 Nvidia video, 4xPCI-X TV Tuners, and 2xGigabit LAN.
[09:53] <DarthDevilous> if i wanna burn a bootable cd do i just burn the .iso normally or do i have to do something special to make it bootable?
[09:54] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: What ISO?
[09:54] <DarthDevilous> ubuntu live iso
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, When I did it, "burn from iso" was fine without any additional configuration.
[09:54] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: It's already bootable.
[09:54] <DarthDevilous> k thx
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Wait, I thought you were running a live cd already?
[09:55] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: My media-server, actually can record up to 4 TV shows at the same time, in perfect quality, and stream them over the network using live stream, or VOD. :)
[09:55] <cyphase> does anyone know of any plans to merge GnomeMeeting and Gaim?
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Interesting...  Never gotten into that sort of thing, but it sounds cool.
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, Wouldn't their project pages mention if it there were?
[09:56] <ejofee> how do i find an alternative mirror for http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras ?
[09:56] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Yeah. It's nice stuff. I don't even own a regular TV anymore. I have one HDTV, without a tuner, and it itself is hooked up through the LAN and is literally streamed directly to, instead of using a TV tuner. :)
[09:56] <johndarkhorse> ejofee: what are you looking for?
[09:57] <ejofee> johndarkhorse: w32codecs
[10:00] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ejofee about restricted
[10:00] <cyphase> is there a way to have nautilus arange desktop icons on the right side?
[10:03] <Tarzipan> hi
[10:03] <npfet> hi
[10:04] <omerix> i have installed wine but it doesn't work
[10:04] <DarkFolken> hi
[10:04] <omerix> and it also gives no error
[10:04] <omerix> can you help me
[10:05] <johndarkhorse> omerix: join #winehq
[10:05] <omerix> ok
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> OH MY GOD!
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> Sorry... I was just reading one of the latest MS Security Updates made available recently. Embedded Fonts in websites and email are now a vulnerability in Windows 98 and up.
[10:11] <EZgun> yeow!
[10:12] <s_spiff{AWAY}> amazing how hackers find out the smallest of the loop holes!
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> Heh yeah.
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> Fricken fonts of all things. First it was graphics, ala, the infamous WMF one. Now fonts!
[10:13] <Hentai^XP> Psi-Jack link?
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Hentai^XP: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-002.mspx
[10:14] <josesanch> hello
[10:15] <SodomizedPeanut> Hi. I'm having trouble installing flashplayer-mozilla. I've enabled all the repositories but it's still not in there.
[10:15] <josesanch> I uploaded a package to revu, but don't appears in http://revu.tauware.de/
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: It's in the multiverse repository.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> Psi-Jack, as far as I know, I've enabled the multiverse repository.
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: In your sources.list, the ones that have universe in them, ... You did?
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> Yep.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> I've uncommented them all.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> And reloaded.
[10:17] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: Anyway, I don't think you have. In the sources.list, their's two entries that have universe, you need to make them have univers multiverse
[10:17] <Psi-Jack> That'll get BOTH universe, and multiverse. multiverse is not in stock sources.list, at all.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> Ah.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> That's strange. I thought it was.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> Sorry. Thanks for your help.
[10:18] <DarthDevilous> :(( ubuntu live failed at the step "detect and mount cd-rom"...
[10:20] <EZgun> There's an Ubuntu Live CD?!
[10:20] <DarthDevilous> lol yep
[10:21] <EZgun> That sucks that it doesn't work for you...
[10:21] <EZgun> Sorry I can't help, I'm a n00b.
[10:21] <DarthDevilous> ^^ me too
[10:21] <EZgun> Aye, I just configured my monitor and mouse settings on xorg.conf :D
[10:22] <EZgun> Although my <forward> and <back> buttons still only work in Firefox...
[10:23] <DarthDevilous> hmm... could the IDE/RAID controller be the problem?
[10:23] <EZgun> I dunno... actually I think it's just something simple I'm missing.
[10:23] <DarthDevilous> i mean on mine :P
[10:23] <EZgun> ohhhh!
[10:24] <EZgun> can you install the full desktop on your comp?
[10:24] <DarthDevilous> havn't tried
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> i wanted to see whether it worked with the live cd first :P
[10:25] <EZgun> do you have your CD / hard drive(s) on cable select?
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> probably not
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> try to avoid putting stuff on cable select..
[10:26] <EZgun> ah, that's cool. cause i hear a lot of things go 'tarded with cable select
[10:27] <bolo> hello
[10:27] <Jochem> does somebody use mercury als IM, because I have a couple of questions about it
[10:27] <DarthDevilous> thing is if ubuntu doesn't support my controller then i can forget full install since both HDs are also on that controller :(
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> what a cool name for an IM client "maim" heh
[10:28] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline
[10:28] <bolo> "
[10:30] <boris1284> hi
[10:30] <Irvine> which compilers good?
[10:31] <bolo> hello
[10:32] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline" help please.. Y_Y
[10:32] <ejofee> my firefox crashes a lot!
[10:32] <ejofee> i have no idea why
[10:32] <bolo> ejofee same here
[10:32] <ejofee> it seems it crashes especially on sites with adds
[10:33] <ejofee> is it because of some broken filtering technology it uses?
[10:34] <microjackson> good morning :)
[10:35] <benplaut> right now i'm learning shell scripting, but is it worthwhile skipping up to python, for a little 'room to grow'?
[10:35] <Jochem> does somebody know how to get flashing taskbars with mercury, please ?
[10:36] <Irvine> how to open gcc?
[10:36] <Tomcat_> benplaut: With Python you can do more, but you still need shell scripting.
[10:36] <johndarkhorse> benplaut: all knowledge is good to have
[10:36] <benplaut> Tomcat_: so learn one, then the other
[10:36] <CarinArr> benplaut, it depends on what you want to do as well
[10:36] <KrulleTrap> sometimes ashell is all you'll have
[10:36] <benplaut> johndarkhorse: why'dya think i'm using linux? :P
[10:36] <Irvine> Tomcat_:How to open python?
[10:37] <Tomcat_> benplaut: I only know Python, not much shell scripting... and I often miss it, because python scripts are usually too complicated to write within a few minutes.
[10:37] <benplaut> hmm
[10:37] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just type "python" in the shell.
[10:37] <benplaut> there's a serious flaw in bash scripting...
[10:37] <CarinArr> lol m0bus
[10:37] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[10:38] <benplaut> `command --arguments` are extremely hard to configure!!
[10:38] <Irvine> thx
[10:38] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline" help please.. Y_Y
[10:39] <Irvine> Tomcat_:what is gcc?
[10:39] <CarinArr> bolo, did you get the package through the package manager or did you download it someplace else
[10:39] <KrulleTrap> gnu c compiler
[10:39] <microjackson> benplaut, i think that studying python could help speed up the learning :)  just remember, if you run into a problem that you cant solve after 48 hours, skip to thee next one
[10:40] <bolo> CarinArr, downloaded somewhere else...
[10:40] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc is the GNU C and C++ compiler
[10:40] <benplaut> heh
[10:40] <CarinArr> bolo, it's a .deb?
[10:40] <bolo> yes
[10:41] <bolo> I also tried this "sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[10:41] <bolo> " but I get the same error
[10:41] <menko> hi, is there a repo that contains firefox 1.5?
[10:41] <Irvine> Tomcat_:which compilers is good?
[10:41] <johndarkhorse> menko: no there is not
[10:42] <menko> is there a firefox 1.5 deb package anywhere then?
[10:42] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc is a good one, as most open source software uses it and it's totally open.
[10:42] <Tomcat_> !firefox1.5
[10:42] <bolo> @menko, I think its in dapper repo?
[10:42] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:42] <CarinArr> bolo, to me it sounds as though the package is corrupted.. i'm hardly an expert though
[10:42] <Irvine> Tomcat_:How to open gcc?
[10:42] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just type "gcc" in the shell
[10:42] <CarinArr> bolo, you can't find the package mirrored anywhere?
[10:43] <bolo> I really dont know wat happend
[10:43] <microjackson> ive just started looking at ubuntu, is it based off of suse or debian or bsd?
[10:43] <menko> !firefox1.5
[10:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:43] <KrulleTrap> debian
[10:43] <Irvine> Tomcat_: gcc: no input files
[10:43] <microjackson> thank you :)
[10:43] <microjackson> gcc -o
[10:43] <KrulleTrap> np
[10:44] <bolo> @CarinArr: I used the .deb before and it worked fine
[10:44] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Well, yes, you need to give it some C or C++ file to compile usually.
[10:44] <Irvine> Tomcat_: how?
[10:45] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc <infile>
[10:45] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example
[10:45] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc myprogram.c
[10:45] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs
[10:46] <microjackson> hmm
[10:46] <Tomcat_> Irvine: There are many out there... just search for some open source program on Google, download the source... then you can compile it.
[10:47] <microjackson> which would be better?  installing ubuntu from my live cd or downloading the actual install disk?
[10:47] <Tomcat_> Irvine: You don't really make the impression that you're ready for working with the shell... maybe you want to read a tutorial or book first?
[10:47] <Tomcat_> microjackson: Downloading the install disk
[10:47] <Irvine> yes
[10:47] <microjackson> no way, jump in man
[10:47] <sethk> microjackson, install disk.  that's why it's called "install disk"
[10:47] <microjackson> heh
[10:47] <Irvine> i am newbie
[10:47] <microjackson> hehe
[10:47] <microjackson> thats why its called an install disk???
[10:48] <ejofee> is there any version of firefox which includes its extensions all packed together? or at least a metapackage with firefox extensions?
[10:48] <Tomcat_> ejofee: I don't think so.
[10:49] <ejofee> Tomcat_: neither?
[10:49] <ejofee> Tomcat_: (of the two)
[10:49] <sethk> ejofee, I don't think so.  That division between "supplied by mozilla" and "supplied by other than mozilla" is more or less insisted upon by mozilla
[10:49] <KrulleTrap> ejofee, not for the pretend os either :-)
[10:49] <sethk> microjackson, yes.  If you have a disk called "install", and you want to install, it makes sense to use the disk called "install"
[10:49] <ejofee> KrulleTrap: what do you mean? are there such packages for other oses?
[10:49] <Tomcat_> ejofee: So far I haven't seen any firefox extension in the package repos.
[10:50] <KrulleTrap> ejofee, not that i know of
[10:50] <microjackson> ok,  another stupid question.  what chmod command do i use to turn a file into an executable?
[10:50] <sethk> microjackson, chmod +x fille
[10:50] <sethk> microjackson, for other than the owner, you can do:   chmod a+x file
[10:50] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs that written in gcc
[10:51] <sethk> microjackson, the a means everyone.  or,  u+x, g+x, o+x (user, group, other)
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Irvine: The Linux kernel, gnucash, xchat, gaim, you name it... almost anything on Linux is written using gcc.
[10:52] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs that written in gcc
[10:52] <Irvine> Tomcat_:gcc and python which is easier to learn?
[10:52] <Tomcat_> Irvine: python
[10:52] <sethk> Irvine, python, definitely
[10:52] <microjackson> where were you guys when i needed help in unix classes in college  ;)
[10:53] <Set> playing in the kindergarden?
[10:53] <Tomcat_> microjackson: Using Windows :D
[10:53] <sethk> Irvine, there are other good languages available as well.  Ruby, haskell are my favorites
[10:53] <KrulleTrap> microjackson, sitting next to you, paying attention? :-p
[10:53] <microjackson> gcc can be c or c++ and c is more usefull with unix type OS's
[10:53] <Set> lol
[10:53] <microjackson> hehe
[10:53] <microjackson> ive never had a windows box
[10:53] <Irvine> what is nano?
[10:53] <Set> real small
[10:53] <microjackson> c64 - apple 2gs - mac
[10:53] <Tomcat_> Irvine: nano is an easy-to-use editor for Linux
[10:54] <Set> or one of Creative's mp3 players
[10:54] <sethk> Irvine, very basic, dumb sort of editor.  It uses wordstar commands.  Nobody under 50 remembers wordstar, but there you go.
[10:54] <Set> depending on your interests
[10:54] <johndarkhorse> sethk: do you not smell a troll?
[10:54] <Set> I'm no troll. Just bored. Sorry
[10:55] <microjackson> whatever man, i saw you hiding beneath that bridge
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> Set: do the guilty reveal themselves? lol
[10:55] <Set> I like to put out the fire before it burns down my house :)
[10:55] <sethk> johndarkhorse, 4:55 AM, my smeller is tired.
[10:56] <Tomcat_> sethk: haskell looks interesting, but can you do anything modern with it? (GUI, Networking, XML)
[10:56] <microjackson> hehe, drink some coffee and smell some salts
[10:56] <Irvine> Tomcat_: do u like programming?
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Yes, but I hardly do any programming lately. :\
[10:57] <Irvine> Tomcat_: how to download things by using wget?
[10:57] <microjackson> i like jmax programming
[10:57] <johndarkhorse> Irvine: the google search engine will answer most all of the questions you've asked here
[10:57] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just do "wget <URL>" and it will download the URL.
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Is there any good shell tutorial or basic Linux tutorial for Irvine? I did a search but couldn't find something decent...
[10:58] <sethk> Tomcat_, yes, I wrote some fairly sophisticated network test programs with it yesterday
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Irvine about cli
[10:59] <Tomcat_> Thanks johndarkhorse.
[11:01] <Irvine> got it
[11:01] <microjackson> sethk, what situation inspired you to write your own tests?
[11:01] <linuxboy> has anybody managed to install thunderbird 1.5 on ubuntu?
[11:02] <sethk> microjackson, they run on a new embedded system that has no existing software
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> linuxboy: you may be able to follow this howto
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell linuxboy about firefox1.5
[11:03] <linuxboy> johndarkhorse: thanks. But I know about that.
[11:04] <EZgun> Hey guys. I have a really dumb question.
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, TB1.5 is out??
[11:04] <Irvine> my download speed low
[11:04] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: yes
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, Whoa, when was that?
[11:05] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: nafc
[11:05] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: earlier this week
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, sorry, you've found an abbreviation I don't know...
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Ah, so I'm not that out of it.  Good.
[11:06] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: i have no idea
[11:06] <Irvine> Tomcat_: is there any method to increase download speed?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, (If you know) Should I do basically the same thing for TB1.5 as FF, as on the ff1.5 wiki?
[11:07] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[11:07] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: i would. they are both similar
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, Sweet.  johndarkhorse: "This is loosely based on/inspired by the FirefoxNewVersion How-To".
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> I'll probably give it a little while though, so the extensions can catch up.
[11:08] <jesper> How do I attach a patch to a bug in Malone? (I'm probably just blind)
[11:08] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: thats what I was thinking
[11:08] <wakkah> Good morning! I'd like to mount an NFS share without using a shell but "Places" / "Connect to Server..." only offers SSH, FTP, HTTP, samba and so on.. any Ideas?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Sure, but that requires quite some knowledge about networks... which I don't have.
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> Irvine : doubt it
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> Irvine : most networks are configured for maximum performance
[11:10] <microjackson> sethk, when you say it uses no software, do you mean that it computes strictly upon layout of electronic components
[11:10] <ubuntu-new> hi does ubuntu have voIP
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, (Loving the extensions concept for FF/TB WAY too much...)
[11:11] <Marlun> if I want to be able to do some c++ programming, is it build-essential I need to compile my code?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, I think yes.  Don't remember the program name though.  (vophone or something like that?)
[11:12] <microjackson> marlun, uhh
[11:12] <ubuntu-new> how do i install it
[11:12] <microjackson> heh
[11:12] <DarthDevilous> marlun: c++ is not a scipting language, you have to compile it so that it does anything
[11:13] <microjackson> if you are doing c++ programming, you require a compiler and linker :)
[11:13] <Marlun> DarkFolken: what? thats why I asked if it would allow me to compile.
[11:13] <Marlun> Well, what do I need then? =P
[11:13] <ubuntu-new> how do i install it voip
[11:14] <DarthDevilous> gcc is gnu c++ compiler, if thats your question :P
[11:14] <Marlun> but isn't gcc installed with "build-essential" ?
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, apt-cache search voip told me gnomemeeting is for that too, which is installed by default.
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: gcc-4.0 is default
[11:15] <Marlun> johndarkhorse: on a server installation?
[11:15] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: if you install build-essential, it will include gcc-4.0
[11:15] <ubuntu-new> where is that on my gnome desktop
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Applications > Internet > Gnome Desktop.
[11:16] <Marlun> johndarkhorse: thank you, thats what I was asking for from the beginning :P maybe my question was a little badly formated.
[11:16] <DarthDevilous> hmm well ubuntu live won't work on my PC but it will on my laptop :(
[11:16] <microjackson> ok, well i guess i should restart and do a full installation now.  nice meeting y'all
[11:16] <ubuntu-new> do i need to have webcam or mic
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, A mic at least, yeah.
[11:17] <microjackson> ubantu is pretty much the only clean live disk for ppc processers
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Or somehow connect a phone handset through to the computer as the mic, but I don't know how that would work.
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Actually, thats a good question: Can you use a phone as your mic if you don't own another microphone?
[11:18] <ubuntu-new> but can i connect to diffrent voip servers with that gnomemeeting
[11:18] <microjackson> just build a beige box and have long wires leading to your neighbors box
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Run it and see.  Never tried it myself.
[11:20] <daaaman64> would turing of acpi for install be bad?
[11:20] <cyphase> did anyone in the western US see the sapsule land?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> What's that microjackson?
[11:20] <boxemall> Hallo. I got one BIG Problem. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 5.10 (no beta)
[11:20] <cyphase> capsule* pass by*
[11:20] <cyphase> lol
[11:20] <boxemall> but i do not have any sound on left channel
[11:20] <sethk> ubuntu-new, I've installed skype, which does voip.  Getting mixed results, some good, some not
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, What capsule is this?
[11:21] <deicidus> hey quick question: i want to install dapper flight 3 when it comes out over my breezy install. i dont have to reformat or anything, do i? what's the procedure for the upgrade?
[11:21] <boxemall> tryed to change settings in mixer but no effect
[11:21] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, Stardust
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Add the cd to your apt sources and dist-upgrade.
[11:21] <boxemall> i don't have "new" hardware so i don't understand where the Problem is.
[11:22] <ruschi> Iguys, I got GLX problems with my nvidia GeForce4 Ti: driver is "nvidia" Xorg.log says extensions are loaded, but glxgears eats CPU like crazy
[11:22] <ruschi> Any idea?
[11:22] <boxemall> i have WinXP on the same machine which works without any Problem
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, No idea.  Must've missed that in the news.  (From MN, currently in ON.)
[11:22] <CarinArr> ruschi, what drivers are you using?
[11:22] <boxemall> can anyone HELP???
[11:22] <ruschi> nvidia restricted
[11:22] <ubuntu-new> is it difficult to install the mic
[11:23] <ubuntu-new> on ubuntu
[11:23] <DarthDevilous> how should i partition a 14GB harddisk to install ubuntu on?
[11:23] <ubuntu-new> u can partion when u install it it will ask u
[11:23] <DarthDevilous> i mean how much for each parition
[11:23] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:24] <ubuntu-new> u can choose automatically it fixes by himself
[11:24] <CarinArr> ruschi, i.e. you're using the ubuntu packaged nvidia drivers?
[11:24] <ruschi> glxinfo even says "server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation"
[11:24] <DarthDevilous> ah cool
[11:24] <CarinArr> ruschi, yeah.. but what version are the drivers
[11:24] <ruschi> yes and a custom kernel that always wworked
[11:24] <CarinArr> 7667?
[11:24] <ruschi> 7667
[11:24] <ruschi> exactly
[11:24] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:24] <CarinArr> the official nvidia drivers are up to 8xxx now
[11:24] <ruschi> ok
[11:24] <CarinArr> i had to upgrade to those for some of the software i use to work properly
[11:25] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:25] <CarinArr> i dunno if that'd solve your problem but it might be worth a try
[11:25] <ruschi> but it used to work - where do I get 8xx drivers
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, unless you want to dual-boot.
[11:25] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, thanks for the keyword (dist-upgrade). i see now. ill do a backup in case it doesnt go smoothly.
[11:25] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Good plan.
[11:26] <CarinArr> ruschi, check the nvidia howto thread on ubuntuforums.org, it might list your problem somewhere.. if you decide to install the latest drivers there are a few steps you have to take before so they don't get corrupted by the drivers you have atm, so read the first post in that thread carefully
[11:26] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:26] <ruschi> thanks
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, (If you have the space, I've also heard of people making another partition for their development release installs.)
[11:26] <microjackson> tony, sorry stepped outside for a smoke.  im referring to the beige box as in the telephone line mans huge red phones with alligator clips hanging on their belts.  very easy to build
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Hey, maybe that's what I can do when I finally break down and just delete Windows...
[11:27] <bimberi> Stork: no need, bootmisc.sh runs as root
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> microjackson, Nice.
[11:27] <boxemall> does anyone have any idea what could cause this problem (mono sound) or anything that couls solve it???
[11:27] <Stork> bimberi, well if i wanted it to run a command, eg 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx' where would i put that in bootmisc.sh ?
[11:27] <microjackson> ive surprised myself and found that i am more productive with linux than mac os 9
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> microjackson, Can I do it with my regular phone on my desk, plugging into the modem port?
[11:28] <microjackson> boxemall
[11:28] <Davey|Work> microjackson: os9 was an abomination, it doesn't surprise me :)
[11:28] <microjackson> i can probably help you out, but i must log off now.  it is probably a physical layer type problem
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> Basically forwarding input to the modem to the microphone input.
[11:28] <microjackson> heh
[11:28] <boxemall> yes?
[11:28] <snap> hi all. I have two problems, first, wpa_supplicant not compile in ubuntu x64, second, Ati sound card regonized by system, but no sound
[11:28] <Stork> bimberi, well if i wanted it to run a command, eg 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx' where would i put that in bootmisc.sh ?
[11:28] <microjackson> i guess i was just shaped into appreciationg os 7 -9