[02:39] <hyperstream> when i'm on live cd how do i bring up the grub console? it says command not found!
[02:39] <dvokurka> exit
[02:39] <radams976> how are yall doing?
[02:39] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: sleep means power down cpu but keep powering ram. in acpi this is S3 state.
[02:39] <radams976> is there a way to get trillian astra to work with ubuntu with wine?
[02:39] <radams976> help
[02:39] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, well the boot from usb isn't really all that hard. You know how to get into your bios right?
 wt
[02:40] <sebsebseb> radams976: maybe/probably and #winehq is the place to ask
[02:40] <radams976> ok
[02:40] <radams976> thanxs
[02:40] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: of course you could use S1 state which powers CPU as well
[02:40] <linuxguy2009> calvin_FreeNode: Yes that is called suspend in Windows and Ubuntu.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> radams976: np good luck
[02:40] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, ... Bios...? haha i thought i knew alot about computers, aparently not lol
[02:40] <radams976> thxns
[02:40] <hyperstream> when i'm on live cd how do i bring up the grub console? it says command not found!
[02:40] <calvin_FreeNode> linuxguy2009: anyway, doesn't work for me
[02:40] <andresmh> How do I get the new Ubuntu notifications in Pidgin (http://ubuntumanual.org/files/u1/ubuntu_notification.png). I have lib-notify plugin enabled for new messages, however, it only blinks when I get a new message: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/285483/tmp/screenshot93.png
[02:41] <Flannel> radams976: pidgin might also be of interest to you
[02:41] <sebsebseb> radams976: or Empathy
[02:41] <linuxguy2009>  calvin_FreeNode: Why do you say it doesnt work? It wont wake up?
[02:42] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, lol. Well if you don't know stuff like bios, your computer experience may put a little bit of a learning curve on Linux, but don't worry... Linux has gotten a lot more user friendly than it used to be. You will do just fine. Now let me get to the bios information.
[02:42] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i finally got the ip address - sorry it took so long, just to make sure i understand what you're saying, i install the samba with the live CD running on the computer i'm moving the files from, right?
[02:42] <hyperstream> WHY is the ubuntu 9.10 install disk BROKEN, the grub loader doesnt work....  doesnt someone test this before releasing ?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Mandi: my install of 9.10 is  nearly clean, it seems I already got Samba stuff installed, so maybe you do as well on the Live CD
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well that's easy enough to find out if you do or don't, and easy to install if you don't
[02:43] <osubuck> hyperstream: it worked fine for me, maybe its just you
[02:43] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, during the VERY beginning of the of booting up your computer, when it probably gives you some simple colored DELL logo or something, down towards the bottom should be some instructions on how to get into your bios, like press Esc, delete, F1, F2 or something like that. Bios' are usually blue and white pages that allow you to change some things about your computer.
[02:43] <hyperstream> WHY is the ubuntu 9.10 install disk BROKEN, the grub loader doesnt work....  doesnt someone test this before releasing ? I get grub boot error,  no such file ......... ive installed it to the /boot parition /dev/sdd2 and the actual drive in over a number of formats --> /dev/sdd doesnt work either
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Mandi: system > administration > synaptic package manager   search for samba   and is any of that stuff green?   or you could just run an install command for one of the programs and it will say if it's installed or not   sudo apt-get install samba-common
[02:43] <hyperstream> osubuck its wierd
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Mandi: applications > assesssories > terminal for commands
[02:44] <helpme> DisguisedAngel oooh those things
[02:44] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: what is your drive setup?
[02:44] <Mandi> sebsebseb: checking - i'm on one of the laptops, and the desktop is next to me
[02:44] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: unetbootin seems to be working. I had it "burned" with dd before, but my netbook refused to boot from it
[02:44] <Mandi> sebsebseb: and very slow CD drive
[02:44] <helpme> DisguisedAngel so i should find some sort of "boot from usb drive" there?
[02:44] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, Don't mess with any of it but the part you need to. You need to find the "Boot Order" section, or one that you think might be hinting towards a boot order or boot priority or something. Then you need to make sure that the one that says something about USB, like USB storage or drive or something, is higher in the list of things you can boot from than your Hard Drive.
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Mandi: on the lap top in Windows you need to make a shared folder, where your going to move/copy in  the data
[02:45] <jzacsh> i want my cron to output
[02:45] <jzacsh> whoops, ignore that ^
[02:45] <Toto23> Hello
[02:45] <Toto23> I come from an other planet...
[02:45] <sebsebseb> !hi | Toto23
[02:45] <helpme> that means i have to shut down :| ok, any words of advice b4 i leave? ill be on once i get things up and running
[02:45] <SingAlong_> Toto23: find your spaceship and go back :)
[02:45] <Toto23> Probably situated between the uranus system and the constellation of Mesbolpol.
[02:46] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Toto23
[02:46] <Toto23> Arrived here in laser reuction blast in the year 381.
[02:47] <DisguisedAngel> helpme, don't panic, your not installing right away, just testing it out. And install XChat from System > Administration > Synaptic Package manager, so you can chat with the guys in here for help.
[02:47] <Mandi> sebsebseb: shared folder done, still looking for samba on deskto
[02:47] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sudo apt-get install samba-common
[02:47] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: and I'm seeing the install screen, thank you very much
[02:48] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, np :) Good luck
[02:48] <sanjid> thanks :-)
[02:48] <Toto23> Formed in the council, KIng Richard reserve to him thssh: connect to host planetXtc34w.Sidious.GalaxyErtzo.Hmbc port 22: Connecting on timed out
[02:48] <sebsebseb> sanjid: I suggest setting up a seperate home on a new Ubuntu install
[02:48] <andresmh> How do I enable the new Ubuntu notifications in Pidgin (like these http://ubuntumanual.org/files/u1/ubuntu_notification.png).
[02:48] <helpme> DisguisedAngle, ok, well here i go
[02:48] <sanjid> I had it going on my old netbook, but the hdd died and they just gave me a fresh one
[02:48] <panfist> why does it take such a long time to move something to the trash? what's going on in the background when files are deleted through gnome?
[02:48] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Toto23
[02:48] <Toto23> You are the first human I see since few years
[02:49] <hyperstream> ChogyDan: i have 2 IDE's and 2 Sata and one USB External Hard Drive(1TB) , when i go through the install process i click advanced and tell it to install the boot loader onto the 1TB drive, ive also one time made a /boot partition, and tried to install grub onto that with the advanced menu just before it copy's the files and installs the OS
[02:49] <Toto23> Do you have Bombing Blast ?
[02:50] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: you need to install grub to the drive that the bios will boot
[02:50] <nabcore> Hi, using Ubuntu 9.10 on a Thinkpad T61 with ath5k. When connected to a AP and pinging it every second; I noticed that *every* 120, the ping time jumps to ~8 sec and takes around 5 seconds to recover. Is this a known issue?
[02:50] <hyperstream> yes i tell me bios to boot my 1TB drive
[02:50] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, ah... my external died... hate it when HDD's die.
[02:50] <hyperstream> and i get that error, grub erro boot somethign.. unable to find file ...
[02:50] <sanjid> yeah, I had three hdd's die in the last three days
[02:51] <sanjid> so something is up
[02:51] <hyperstream> ChogyDan then just sits at grub rescue>
[02:51] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: hmm, so you install grub on the external drive?  and then have the /boot partition on another drive?
[02:51] <hyperstream> no the /boot partition in on the External Drive as well
[02:52] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid... well in all honesty, it didn't die on me.  I had a WD crap out on me and I only use what I beleive to be the best now.
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh
[02:53] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, i have tried installing to 10gig /boot and with out even having a /boot (just 100gig /root) and install to / partition.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well in that case
[02:53] <sanjid> I think that there's some electromagnetic disturbance near my house, why else would there be three unrelated hdd's, both internal and external, across different systems and different roms, fail within a couple days of each other
[02:53] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, also it is the first partition(s) on the drive.
[02:53] <sebsebseb> Mandi: feel free to do it the way you were going to before
[02:53] <ChogyDan> hyperstream: and you get the same error?
[02:53] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, I don't know, that is weird. Are they all the same brand or different?
[02:54] <Mandi> is there a way to reboot from the keyboard in ubuntu live CD?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Mandi: try reboot in the terminal
[02:54] <DisguisedAngel> Mandi "Ctrl-Alt-Del"
[02:54] <Mandi> can't get a terminal
[02:54] <Mandi> tried
[02:54] <sanjid> DisguisedAngel: one was the internal hdd on an iMac, one was the internal on an eeepc, and one was a WD external
[02:54] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: no that won't work
[02:54] <zcat[1]> ctrl-alt-F1 then atrl-alt-del
[02:54] <hyperstream> actually no,  without the /boot partition, i was installing the bootloader to the Ext Hard Drive /dev/sdd , and i was getting unknown file system, but with the /boot partition and installing the boot loader to that i get cant find file
[02:54] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, doesn't work in live?
[02:55] <DisguisedAngel> sanjid, wow that is weird.
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: or maybe it works uh.  I am thinking Windows Ctrl Alt Delete
[02:55] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thank you for trying to hold my hand - i really appreciate it, i'll be back if i have anymore questions, right now it's a matter of hardware issues
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: also well this
[02:55] <hyperstream> ChogyDan, ive even booted into live cd, and had a look at the 10gig boot partition, it has a grub directory, but no menu.lst or anything like that
[02:55] <zcat[1]> alt-F2 'gksu reboot'
[02:55] <SingAlong_> i just installed 9.10 netbook remix on my Aspire One D150 and the wireless doesnt work.
[02:55] <sebsebseb> !dontzap |   DisguisedAngel
[02:55] <sanjid> yeah, exactly. It also killed the power strip connected to my router
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: there used to be an easy way to log out, but not anymore
[02:55] <ChogyDan> !grub2 > hyperstream
[02:55] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, you don't need dontzap now
[02:55] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: oh?
[02:55] <SingAlong_> i just installed 9.10 netbook remix on my Aspire One D150 and the wireless doesnt work. It used to work in 9.04 though.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> SingAlong_: clean install or upgrade?
[02:56] <SingAlong_> sebsebseb: clean install
[02:56] <DisguisedAngel> sebsebseb, you can go to keyboard, then Layouts, Layout Options, and turn that feature back on.
[02:56] <sebsebseb> SingAlong_: ok uhmm sometimes things that worked in a previous release, don't in a later one
[02:56] <the_beav> why does my wireless signal seem to go up and down so much..i have to boot into XP to watch decent streams..anything i can do?
[02:56] <ChogyDan> sebsebseb: DisguisedAngel: alt+sysrq+k also works
[02:56] <snuffy47> having problems testing an install of deluge on a headless ubuntu server.  the torrents seem to keep going to permision denied
[02:56] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: System Admin hardware drivers. Any drivers listed there for your wifi adapter?
[02:56] <SingAlong_> sebsebseb: it worked on the upgrade though. but i had a messed up gnome install so i did a clean install again
[02:57] <DisguisedAngel> ChogyDan, what is sysrq?
[02:57] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: one sec
[02:57] <fcuk112> snuffy47: are you using open or private trackers?
[02:57] <sebsebseb> DisguisedAngel: ChogyDan   ok  thanks I guess
[02:57] <zcat[1]> It's true you don't need nozap now
[02:57] <zcat[1]> lol
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Do it in Windows
[02:57] <snuffy47> fcuk112, current 1 private and 1 public
[02:57] <sebsebseb> Mandi: oh yeah you were going to re boot
[02:57] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: no propreitory drivers on this system. thats what it says
[02:57] <fcuk112> snuffy47: both permission denied?
[02:57] <Mandi> sebsebseb: it came alive suddenly - trying the command line you gave me to get samba
[02:58] <ChogyDan> DisguisedAngel: its a magic key I suppose.  on my keyboard, it is the same as printscreen
[02:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: sudo lshw -c lan
[02:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: pastebin
[02:58] <DisguisedAngel> ChogyDan, hmmm weird
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok
[02:58] <snuffy47> fcuk112, my private says status OK but no activity and the publics go permissions denied
[02:58] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: k
[02:58] <DisguisedAngel> alright, I'm out. Catch you guys later.
[02:59] <snuffy47> fcuk112, the private is stuck on checking
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !lol > zcat[1]
[02:59] <Nautilus> whats a good way to setup multiple simultaneous web (MySQL based) sites on a dev box? My old install just had one public_html folder and one DB.
[03:00] <fcuk112> snuffy47: strange. which folder are you writing the data to?
[03:00] <the_beav> seriously, it goes from 100% 56% lol i can't be the only person with this prblem
[03:00] <snuffy47> fcuk112, it is a samba share on the server. //media/movies1/Torrents
[03:00] <sebsebseb> Mandi: how's it going?
[03:01] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: I thought you could do that by configuring apache to use different folders, and the websites to use different tables
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I was wondering if it was a write problem
[03:01] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: you done Samba in 9.10?
[03:01] <Nautilus> dont want different tables
[03:01] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i just got a message that the software manager thingy stopped working and closed unexpectedly - i'm going to do the whole mess in windows
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I was wondering if it was a write problem
[03:01] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: why not?
[03:01] <Nautilus> why?
[03:01] <fcuk112> snuffy47: yea, maybe try to write to a local folder first.
[03:01] <Nautilus> ;)
[03:01] <snuffy47> sebsebseb, no it is on jaunty
[03:01] <DisguisedAngel> what is the command to open file roller from terminal? I forgot what someone told me.
[03:01] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: nevermind I guess,  I  was trying to help Mandi get set up with Samba, but she/he was getting  issues with Live CD
[03:01] <stooball> Hi all
[03:01] <snuffy47> fcuk112, It is a local folder on server where deluge is
[03:01] <Nautilus> ChogyDan: mostly because when the sites are uploaded thay each get their own DB
[03:01] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: file-roller
[03:01] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009 thanks
[03:02] <linuxguy2009> welcome
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it might already be installed
[03:02] <fcuk112> snuffy47: try a folder under your home/username/ folder
[03:02] <ChogyDan> Nautilus: same tables == same data == same website.  If you are using different websites, then will use different tables anyway probably
[03:02] <snuffy47> okay
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: I just wanted to test that
[03:02] <Nautilus> ChogyDan: the tables are the same for each
[03:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: You got some output for me?
[03:02] <snuffy47> sebsebseb, what is the problem I am a noob but will help if can
[03:02] <stooball> I have an HP pavilion zx5180us and have spent the lat 2 days trying to get the wireless to work again
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Mandi: since I seem to have  Samaba installed and this is  nearly a clean installl of 9.10
[03:03] <stooball> Can anyone helpme?
[03:03] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i was trying to find it in the software manager, but i guess i was moving too fast for the CD drive or something and we're getting all kinds of error messages
[03:03] <cdw32> hello all. would anyone be able to assist me in installing Adobe Flash 10 on my mini 12?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> Mandi: error messages such as?
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> stooball: We dont know yet. Whats your question?
[03:03] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009, gksudo fileroller did not open the fileroller :( What am I doing wrong?
[03:03] <stooball> I have an HP pavilion zx5180us and have spent the lat 2 days trying to get the wireless to work again
[03:03] <sebsebseb> snuffy47: oh I was just wondering if Samba gets installed by default with 9.10
[03:03] <jzacsh> cdw32, I believe you should be fine just downloading the ".deb" file from http://get.adobe.com/flash/
[03:03] <paragonc> ok - so i dropped in the 9.04 cd - and clicked install - but now its just sitting at command prompt
[03:03] <stooball> last that is
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: you forgot the "-"
[03:03] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: i found something in the docs
[03:03] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: gksudo file-roller
[03:04] <paragonc> i also cant ssh into the installer
[03:04] <DisguisedAngel> linuxguy2009... god I am an idiot, thanks
[03:04] <scunizi> Is there a gui front end for dcraw.. ??
[03:04] <linuxguy2009> DisguisedAngel: yep
[03:04] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: in this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne it says "I have a AOA 150 and had to add blacklist acer_wmi to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist for my wifi to work "
[03:04] <cdw32> jzacsh: thank you
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: sebsebseb: not sure, dh is clicking on the desktop computer - he reads them off, then clicks them away - it seems to be running fine again; apparently if we leave the machine idle for too long, the CD forgets that it's reading something???
[03:04] <sebsebseb> Mandi: dh???
[03:04] <sanjid> so, what's a good size for my swap partition?
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: checking the software center now for samba to see if it's installed
[03:04] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: how do i add it to the black list? the blacklist file doesnt exist
[03:04] <Mandi> sebsebseb: dear husband...
[03:04] <Grasber> hi
[03:04] <paragonc> is there a command i can give it to start the installer?
[03:05] <Grasber> how can i get personal assistance from someone?, it's important :(
[03:05] <jzacsh> Grasber, what's the issue?
[03:06] <Bam_Bam> Grasber, usually you can just ask someone here.
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ok that's what I thought for  quite a while now or from the begining, a woman, but sometimes guys use female names in here or so it seems.    Live CD's yeah can be slow it has to put everything into RAM, and also if the CD drive is slow hmm.
[03:06] <Grasber> look, i installed ubuntu on my dad's laptop, and now his win xp intallaton won't start
[03:06] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: My guess is that you need to do a ALT+F2 and run "gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf" and add it in there.
[03:06] <uccadmin> Does anyone know why in the new GDM (Karmic) some of my users are displayed with their username in parenthesis after their "Real Name"? Was there a change made to the way that users are displayed?
[03:06] <cdw32> jzacsh: it fail to install. it had me run a code in lterminal
[03:06] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: ya added it :)
[03:06] <sebsebseb> Grasber: Is there an option for it on the boot loader?
[03:07] <SingAlong_> linuxguy2009: do i have to do anything else next?
[03:07] <Grasber> it says it's a 31 error from grub
[03:07] <Grasber> i mean: 21 error
[03:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong_: No clue. Maybe logout and back in or reboot no idea.
[03:07] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'm going to shut down the live CD and copy the data through windows - i'll be back when it's done
[03:07] <sebsebseb> uccadmin: not sure, but  that GDM sucks, it can't even be themed like the old one, since  they didn't code that in to the re write of GDM
[03:07] <jzacsh> cdw32, what's the name of the debian package you downloaded?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Mandi: I might not be here
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it's a bit late here really
[03:08] <cdw32> jzacsh:  intsall_flash_player_10_linus.deb
[03:08] <uccadmin> sebsebseb: I'm okay with it so far, although it is limited. It just baffles me that there are a few users displayed as "This is my real name (username)" while others are "This is my real name"
[03:08] <Mandi> sebsebseb: that's fine - you started the ball rolling - i think i've got it from here; will there be someone else on if i run into trouble?
[03:08] <ve0> is anybody here?
[03:08] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:08] <sebsebseb> Mandi: when you partition later  if you do manual install...
[03:08] <linuxguy2009> uccadmin: What are the user names and what do they look like exactly?
[03:08] <jzacsh> cdw32, currently this is the location of the debian installer http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_(.deb)
[03:08] <ve0> ow! )
[03:08] <jzacsh> cdw32, download that ^ and let me know if its the same name
[03:08] <sanjid> what's a good size for a swap size partition?
[03:09] <paragonc> why doesnt the graphical installer come up? grrrr
[03:09] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400
[03:09] <ve0> Bad argument `returned'
[03:09] <ve0> heeelp!!!
[03:09]  * paragonc is super frustrated tonight
[03:09] <linuxguy2009> cdw32: Doesnt work quite right in 9.10 BTW.
[03:09] <jzacsh> ve0, you have to say something specific, what's wrong?
[03:09] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:10] <Nautilus> sanjid: I think 2x RAM
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Mandi: sure loads of people are in here.   I am quite active in here at the moment, but  I don't want to be that active at night in here anymore,  and yes it's night here.
[03:10] <uccadmin> linuxguy2009: I have three that are doing this and one two that are normal. The accounts "uccadmin" and "ucc-win7" display only the "real name" on the GDM login. My other accounts (ucc-mac, ucc-win, ucc-ubu) all show the "real name" followed by the username in parenthesis
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: i am currently running 8.04 LTS
[03:10] <ve0> jzacsh iptabel rule do not ad and i have thise error...
[03:10] <sanjid> Nautilus: thanks
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: i believe
[03:10] <debio264> I just installed Ubuntu (Karmic) on a desktop that's been running a different distribution of linux for quite some time, and now it's booting, running through BIOS, printing GRUB, and hanging
[03:10] <linuxguy2009> cdw32: Oh ok itll work perfect for you then. :)
[03:10] <derp> Hi!  I'd like to set up the folders in my home folder (Documents, Pictures, etc...) to point to folders inside of my Ubuntu One folder.  Can this be achieved?  Would symlinking work?
[03:10] <paragonc> insnt the installer suppoed to do stuff and not drop me into a command line?
[03:10] <cdw32> linuxguy2009: thanks
[03:10] <sebsebseb> !ubuntuone |  derp
[03:10] <ve0> jzacsh what wrong in this rule?
[03:10] <paragonc> its acting like it launched the live cd to command line
[03:11] <sebsebseb> derp: still no factoid
[03:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: same name
[03:11] <linuxguy2009> derp: I think ubuntu-tweak can do this very easily if you want a GUI to help.
[03:11] <sebsebseb> derp: #ubuntuone  is a channel
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: when you install
[03:11] <derp> sebsebseb:  thanks, iĺl look at that
[03:11] <jzacsh> ve0, I don't understand. you're having trouble with an iptable? what exactly are you trying to do?
[03:11] <derp> linuxguy2009:  I saw that but it
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Mandi: there's an option that will  put it on the whole of your hard disk and that's a default set up
[03:11] <derp> it´s not quite what i wanted
[03:11] <snuffy47> fcuk112, Well that seemed to fix it.  Neeod to find and active private tracker now.  Why is this s
[03:11] <paragonc> it just shows ubuntu@ubuntu
[03:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: it is giving me the same error message that the dependencies failed it install
[03:11] <debio264> I just installed Ubuntu (Karmic) on a desktop that's been running a different distribution of linux for quite some time, and now it's booting, running through BIOS, printing GRUB, and hanging. Is this a known bug and/or is there a way I can just reinstall GRUB?
[03:11] <linuxguy2009> derp: but it what?
[03:12] <jzacsh> cdw32 you've opened with the "package installer"? and clicked "install package" button? (with a green checkmark)
[03:12] <linuxguy2009> Oh
[03:12] <sebsebseb> Mandi: however it won't set up a seperate /home  which in the long run could be rather useful, if you have a reason to re install Ubuntu, or you want to put some other distro on
[03:12] <linuxguy2009> derp: What didnt float your boat about that?
[03:12] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes
[03:12] <sanjid> so, just windows, /, and swap?
[03:12] <ve0> jzacsh I was instaled fail2ban... and fail2ban do not banned the brut to ssh, and paste error in log...
[03:12] <sanjid> or are there more partitions that would be good ideals?
[03:12] <Mandi> sebsebseb: k... how do i make it do that then
[03:12] <sanjid> *ideas
[03:12] <jzacsh> cdw32, can you paste the error here (or in a pastebin if its big)
[03:12] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i was hoping to keep my directory structure as it is, except that when I drop something into, say, /home/user/Documents, it actually dropps it off in /home/user/ubuntuone/documents
[03:12] <derp> if that makes sense
[03:12] <ve0> 2009-11-16 05:59:11,569 fail2ban.actions.action: ERROR  iptables -N fail2ban-sasl
[03:12] <ve0> iptables -A fail2ban-sasl -j RETURN
[03:13] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400
[03:13] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes one moment
[03:13] <stooball> debio264 - I think you can do a grub update somehow
[03:13] <sebsebseb> Mandi: they can be set up after woulds, but  I have never done that, and it's probably much easier to set up on a clean install.   plus  you  want some swap space double your RAM really.
[03:13] <ve0> jzacsh like thise
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !home |  Mandi
[03:13] <sebsebseb> !swap |  Mandi
[03:13] <derp> in other words, i'd like the directory structure to remain intact.  this is becasue I'm using UNR and the shortcuts point very specifically to the folders in /home/user
[03:13] <linuxguy2009> derp: In a nautilus window in the sidepane you can add ubuntu one folders I would imagine to simplify.
[03:13] <jzacsh> ve0, I honestly have no experience with what you're doing. maybe someone else could help you. I'd suggest googling that error. although, probably just reading more in the man page for that app will help you
[03:14] <paragonc> Trying to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04. I dropped the cd in - select english - select install. It loads some info, and then drops me into a command line saying: ubuntu@ubuntu - what now?
[03:14] <Roasted> in ubuntu, how can I adjust frostwire so it has a taskbar icon in the upper right by the clock./
[03:14] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i'm not talking about the sidepane though.  I mean the UNR shortcuts in their main menu GUI
[03:14] <chd> I get an "unable to open /dev/sdb" error when I run sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdb wtfsup?
[03:14] <sebsebseb> Mandi: Home is also where hidden .folders go  for programs with the program user data, for example .mozilla is the Firefox profile and it's settings bookmarks etc
[03:14] <ve0> jzacsh thx fo help)
[03:14] <derp> linuxguy2009:  those apparently can't be changed, so i'm wondering if symlinking would work
[03:14] <linuxguy2009> derp: No way of copying one file to 2 locations at once.
[03:15] <Mandi> sebsebseb: k, like the users directory in windows...?
[03:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi: if you remove/move  a  dot folder for a program and then re open that program,  it's like you have just installed it for the first time
[03:15] <derp> linuxguy2009:  well i'm not trying to copy to 2 locations at once.  I'd like for one location to actually point to another.  so if you drop something in folder A, it actually ends up in folder B...
[03:15] <jzacsh> cdw32, have you posted yet?
[03:15] <root> server irc.freenode.net
[03:15] <derp> and i believe symlinking enables one to do that, but i'm not entirely sure
[03:15] <Toto23> THE LIBERTY...  OPEN SOURCE IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THE MANDRIVA COMMUNITY :( THIS IS VERY SAD
[03:15] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying to get to the error message again
[03:15] <sebsebseb> Mandi: home is like my documents in  Windows, but  also  program user data
[03:16] <Toto23> is the ubuntu community better ?
[03:16] <derp> Toto23:  HOW'S CRUISE CONTROL WORKING FOR YOU?
[03:16] <linuxguy2009> derp: Your looking at it backwards I think. Ubuntu One is meant to be saved to in order to share those files on multiple machines.
[03:16] <snuffy47> fcuk112, Do you know way the directory made the difference?
[03:16] <sebsebseb> !troll |  Toto23
[03:16] <NightHawk877> The volume buttons won't work in Kubuntu karmic on my laptop
[03:16] <parker-fcnyu> hi! can anybody help me? i'm trying to get my left super and alt keys to swap, and using the preference in the keyboard layout options isn't doing the expected behavior
[03:16] <dAlfa89_> derp, i lol'd
[03:16] <linuxguy2009> derp: No idea whats confusing you.
[03:16] <Mandi> sebsebseb: right - in vista, that stuff is visible - a lot more so than in XP; i've seen it floating around; so do the install, then add the /home partition?
[03:16] <Nautilus> Can anyone help me remember what I used to install (L)AMP?  It was a command something like: "pkg-list install lamp-server"
[03:16] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ideally yes you want to set up a seperate /home on install
[03:16] <Nautilus> but i dont think it was pkg-list
[03:17] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i realize that.  I'm trying to sync my netbook to my desktop.  I'd like it to work in such a way that anything i drop into /home/user/documents ends up in /home/user/ubuntuone/documents so that it is automatically shared
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that should be most of your hard disk space
[03:17] <Mandi> sebsebseb, k
[03:17] <NightHawk877> can someone please help me with my volume problem
[03:17] <linuxguy2009> Nautilus: apt-get install possibly?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you need a / as well that's a must have
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that's Ubuntu itself
[03:17] <cdw32> jzacsh: the comp said that there was a broken package (adobe flash) that needed to be fixed before i could install again
[03:17] <Nautilus> linuxguy2009: no, i dont think so, it wass a pkg list thing
[03:17] <Mandi> sebsebseb, right
[03:17] <jzacsh> parker-fcnyu: can you let me know how you got to that preference pane?
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: or whatever distro your doing if it wasn't Ubuntu
[03:17] <sebsebseb> Mandi: that should be about 10GB
[03:17] <paragonc> ok - so all the guides i read say this is a GUI installer - why is it dropping me @ command line?
[03:17] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, was it tasksel?
[03:17] <stooball> Good luck with that NightHawk877, no one seens to notice me
[03:17] <Nautilus> ohh maybe
[03:17] <derp> linuxguy2009:  the reason I can't just change the location of /home/user/documents is because that will break the shortcut on the UNR interface that cannot be modified (as far as I can tell)
[03:18] <linuxguy2009> derp: You dont need to save it to your PC documents folder at all. Just copy it to the cloud and it will sync to your machine.
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Mandi: a bit of swap  double the size of your RAM  that should do it.   and yep good set up
[03:18] <uccadmin> Reposting: Does anyone know why in the new GDM (Karmic) some of my users are displayed with their username in parenthesis after their "Real Name"? Was there a change made to the way that users are displayed?
[03:18] <ve0> anybody, who use fail2ban?
[03:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: you could try opening synatpic package manager. searching "adobe" and uninstalling the adobe flash packages you may have (be careful uninstalling things in this application)
[03:18] <sebsebseb> Mandi: this is partitioning
[03:18] <bepe> hi :D
[03:18] <od3n> anyone know the easiest way to add the trash to the desktop
[03:18] <jzacsh> ve0, also you could try seeing if they have there own cannel
[03:18] <parker-fcnyu> jzacsh, Preferences>Keyboard>Layouts>Layout Options>Alt/Win Key Behavior
[03:19] <ve0> jzacsh they havent(
[03:19] <linuxguy2009> derp: You might wanna go on youtube and look for a catagory5 eppisode on ubuntu one it explains a bit to help you understand the usage.
[03:19] <Nautilus> parker-fcnyu: that was it, tasksel ... what I need now is a site that helps me finish the config (primarily MySQL I think)
[03:19] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok
[03:19] <derp> linuxguy:  I know that.  again, the problem is that i want to use the shortcut on the UNR interface to access my documents... that shortcut points to /home/user/documents, but I want my documents to be automatically shared with ubuntuone, so they'd have to find their way into /home/user/ubuntuone/documents in order to do that
[03:19] <Mandi> sebsebseb, k - i get it now - i guess i just never realized that it was a manual thing; always used windows, so i always took the automatic part for granted
[03:19] <demonspork> nighty night everyone.  My expected signon time for tomorrow is 4:00PM Central time [amsg]
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can set stuff up straight away in manual install on the installer. or   make in  gparted first a nice graphical  partition editor, and then finnish off in manual install, where you tell it  what to use a partition for.  you need to tell  it to use  one as / and the other /home  and  choose a file system  Ext4 is default for 9.10, but if you do manual install you have to select one yourself
[03:19] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, good luck! i don't have any real tips for that
[03:19] <Nautilus> k, tx
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Mandi: you can do an automatic default install
[03:19] <Mandi> sebsebseb, thx for all your help tonight - i was a little hesitant b/c it seems like such a big task, but i'm sure once i get through this first one, the others will be a breeze
[03:20] <Nautilus> anyone know of a #lamp IRC chan?
[03:20] <stooball> right click on a panel, choose add to panel - choose go to trash
[03:20] <linuxguy2009> derp: Wont happen cause your trying to use ubuntu one in  a backwards fashion. Its made to sync from the cloud to the machine and not the other way around.
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: guided install that will  go over your Windows install and use the whole hard disk if you tell it to use that
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ,but  for the long run the manual install  set up I was suggesting would be better
[03:20] <jzacsh> nautilus, i have to make you type over again, but could you sum up whats wrong (I might be able to help)?
[03:20] <parker-fcnyu> jzacsh, When a select "Left Alt is swapped with Left Win" it seems like Alt_L corresponds to both Alt_L and Super_L
[03:20] <ve0> jzacsh i dont understand what the argument "returnet" and where it locate? fail2ban havent man... (((
[03:20] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i'm not following you at all.  If i put something in my ubuntuone folder, it will get uploaded to the cloud, correct?
[03:20] <Mandi> sebsebseb: ok, i will read the documentation on that and do it that way
[03:20] <cdw32> jzacsh: should i remove adobe reader also or just flash?
[03:20] <sebsebseb> Mandi: ,but since your new and all that,   you should probably really just go with guided install for  your first install
[03:20] <dani> hi
[03:21] <ve0> hi
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: Look at ubuntu one simply as a free 2GB hard drive.
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: unless you want to  experiment  or  read up a bit about it
[03:21] <jzacsh> cdw32 no, not reader (not for this purpose at least).
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: simple as that
[03:21] <derp> linuxguy2009:  right. it's like dropbox
[03:21] <Mandi> sebsebseb: i'll have to see where my week takes me LOL
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Mandi: it's pretty straight forward really,  and  it's not like your going to mess something up if you try and do what I suggested
[03:21] <Nautilus> jzacsh: Just trying to setup a LAMP server, used "tasksel install lamp-server" iirc. Now I want to complete the config (like MySQL password, do I have to do anything to apache, get phpmyadmin setup, etc).
[03:21] <Guest14292> I can't use all video functions correctly on youtube anymore since i upgraded to 9.10. like i can't use the track position very good. how do i fix this issue??????
[03:21] <derp> linuxguy2009:  so anything I put in my ubuntuone folder will end up on the ubuntuone sever
[03:21] <od3n> that jsut adds it to the panel
[03:21] <linuxguy2009> derp: So basically your asking me if I drop a file on drive A can i get it to magically go into drive B. No.
[03:22] <cdw32> jzach: i found flash ten in the filter, and it is the version i just dl. should i still remove it
[03:22] <sebsebseb> Mandi: since you will have the data on the other computer anyway before doing that, and Windows will be ready to get off there
[03:22] <jzacsh> haha, anyone know how to scroll up? i'm losing some of this stuff
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !install |  Mandi
[03:22] <linuxguy2009> derp: Yeah if you have a launchpad account you can access those files on any machine. Its no different than using a hard drive or flash drive.
[03:22] <parker-fcnyu> Nautilus, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:22] <cyb3rick> od3n: go to terminal, type in gconf-editor, go to /apps/nautilus/desktop/ and check the box of trash_icon
[03:22] <derp> linuxguy2009:  no.  I'm asking this:  can i set up a symlink in such a way that if i drop a file in folder a, it will end up in folder b, folder b being my ubuntuone folder
[03:23] <od3n> ok thanks
[03:23] <Nautilus> parker-fcnyu: ok, reading that, tx
[03:23] <linuxguy2009> derp: Call it what you want folder a drive a ftpserver a. No.
[03:23] <cryptide> anyone else annoyed with the giant ethernet jack: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/31053/screenshot_111_aM2JC4.png
[03:23] <kitty_> what is the build-essentials package?
[03:23] <parker-fcnyu> hey, no problem Nautilus ! i've done this before, and always just googled my way through it
[03:23] <derp> linuxguy2009:  ah then i'm confused.  what does a symlink actually do?
[03:23] <Toto23> good porn picture in GNU license ?
[03:23] <derp> Toto23, where?
[03:23] <jzacsh> nautilus you can search "phpmyadmin" "apache2" "mysql-server" in synaptic (install mysql-server before trying to install phpmyadmin)
[03:24] <sebsebseb> !ops |  Toto23 trolling again
[03:24] <linuxguy2009> derp: In computing, a symbolic link (also symlink or soft link) is a special type of file that contains a reference to another file or directory in the
[03:24] <derp> lol wikipedia
[03:24] <derp> =)
[03:25] <fcuk112> snuffy47: it's system design, you only have write access to your home folder unless you use sudo.
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: good luck with your install
[03:25] <Nautilus> jzacsh: the lamp modules are installed, just not configured yet. parker- had a page that looks like it will help
[03:25] <Mandi> sebsebseb: thank you thank you thank you
[03:25] <flan_suse> I mean this seriously: What benefits have DeviceKit brought to the desktop user? Ever since DeviceKit replace HAL in Ubuntu and openSUSE, it's been a nightmare for me to use removable media, especially CDs. Where do I "configure" how removable media is managed by DeviceKit?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> Mandi: loads of people can help you with that as well, even though it is pretty straight forward
[03:25] <derp> linuxguy2009:  i suppose I could sync both of the folders somehow, but that would be a waste of space
[03:25] <ClayG> anyone here use LMMS?
[03:25] <Blue1> derp: rsync
[03:26] <cdw32> jzacsh: i also found the old version and removed it
[03:26] <derp> Blue1:  yeah, that immediately comes to mind =)
[03:26] <ve0> who can help me???
[03:26] <sebsebseb> Mandi: well yeah pretty straight forward, so many people can help you with it
[03:26] <cjs> Where's a good place to ask questions about md devices and a RAID0 setup. Specifically, the autoconfig finding only one half of the mirror, and giving "md: could not bd_claim sdb1." for the other disk?
[03:26] <derp> !ask|ve0
[03:26] <Blue1> ve0: sorry my crystal ball is broke
[03:26] <ve0> Blue bad)
[03:27] <jzacsh> cdw32, i forgot about you. okay so I'd suggest logging out and logging in (might be totally un necessary). and then try to install the flash package you downloaded
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> derp: I really dont understand why your making it this difficult to use ubuntu one. Its just like a hard drive.
[03:27] <phrix> hi all... I wanna buzz in empathy using YM protocol... any clue...??
[03:27] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: still not working. i'm now connected with a wired connection.
[03:27] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: you asked for some output. what commands output is that?
[03:27] <ve0> Blue1 but I was ask my question...
[03:27] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok ill be back in a minute
[03:27] <stooball> I'll try once more
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: sudo lshw -c lan
[03:27] <derp> linuxguy2009:  Right, but i can't exactly run syncing software directly to the ubuntuone server can I?
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: pastebin.com
[03:27] <derp> it has to go through their client
[03:27] <stooball> anyone else having wireless probs since upgrading Ubuntu 9.1?
[03:28] <derp> or so I thought...
[03:28] <linuxguy2009>  derp: So you basically answered your own question.
[03:28] <ve0> iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -j fail2ban-sasl returned 400 - what the parametr "returned" means& Help please!!!
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: v
[03:29] <derp> linuxguy2009:  you're telling me you can use ordinary sync software other than the ubuntuone client to sync folders?
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: http://pastie.org/700521
[03:29] <usser> derp, yep
[03:29] <derp> well that changes everything...
[03:29] <linuxguy2009>  derp: Use it like it was meant to. Save the file to the cloud(ubunt one service) and then instead of opeing it in your documents folder you just open the ubuntu one folder.
[03:29] <usser> !info rsync
[03:29] <SingAlong1> linuxguy2009: anything wrong with my network cards?
[03:29] <ve0> and why the iptables swear on it?
[03:29] <jzacsh> ve0, i've never used this program, but "returned.XXX" usually means how the program reacted to an action you took. so: 400 may simply mean: go look up what the error 400 is in there documentation (the same style as 404 errors in http)
[03:30] <derp> well... derp!  that makes things easy
[03:30] <Blue1> usser: http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=81
[03:30] <ve0> jzacsh thx) thats all i whant to know)
[03:30] <usser> Blue1, i just use tar myself :)
[03:31] <snuffy47> fcuk112, How do I fix this
[03:31] <zetheroo> so I am working on creating a customised Ubuntu ISO for people in countries where the Internet situation is less than useful. I am in need of knowing what the dependancies are for X amount of apps ... any resources somwone can point me to?
[03:31] <Blue1> usser: that works too
[03:31] <fcuk112> snuffy47: fix what?
[03:31] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: You have the exact same wifi card that I have in my Dell Mini 10v netbook. Works in 9.10 out of the box when I enabled teh drivers in hardware drivers window. I might have had to enable restricted and the other repo so all 4 main ones were enabled for it to show up in the drivers window. The driver files are right on the CD.
[03:31] <Roasted> I installed cairo dock on my pc, and when I hit the launcher, it does nothing... just... nothing. whatsoever. what can Id o
[03:32] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: Did you install using unetbootin?
[03:32] <axisys> !xen
[03:32] <snuffy47> fcuk112, I need to write the media/movies my home directory HD was not meant for downloads
[03:32] <ve0> hm... and why the iptables swear in this rele?... intresting... google may help...
[03:32] <jzacsh> zetheroo, sounds like a fun project. i'm not very knowledgeable about how package manageent works, but if you're not either, i'd suggest learning about it (read about debian package manager: aptitude) - i'm sure there's a parameter that lists dependencies for applications
[03:33] <fcuk112> snuffy47: dunno, i use my home folder.
 thanks for the heads-up ... I recall there being somewhere online that lists dependancies ... I just forgot where ....
[03:34] <Billiard> snuffy47: what are you trying to do?
[03:34] <cdw32> jzacsh: he im back
[03:34] <jzacsh> cdw32 so, did you reinstall the package yet?
[03:34] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am doing so now
[03:34] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: Waiting for your responce. This card is compatible.
[03:34] <snuffy47> Billiard, get deluge to write to one of my samba share drives
[03:34] <tsrk> How do I tell aptitude to purge a package and also purge the packages that will be autoremoved?
[03:35] <rww> tsrk: sudo aptitude --purge-unused purge packagename
[03:35] <Billiard> snuffy47: can you choose the download path in deluge?
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> tsrk: you trying to remove unneeded installed packages?
[03:35] <tsrk> rww: perfect, thank you
[03:35] <cdw32> jzacsh: i thnk it worked,
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> tsrk: sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:35] <jzacsh> zetheroo: i'm sure there is, a little more googling should help (eg: 'site:ubuntu.com dependencies') - good luck
[03:35] <jzacsh> cdw32: try out www.youtube.com
[03:35] <cdw32> jzacsh: is there a way to check
[03:35] <snuffy47> Billiard, deluge isinstalled on the server with the samber server and it will onlywork when I tell it to download to home directory.  It errors out wihen setting it to /media/movies
[03:35] <tsrk> linuxguy2009: thank, but i need to do what rww said
 cheers
[03:36] <linuxguy2009>  tsrk: Whatever floats your boat.
[03:36] <Billiard> snuffy47: what are the permissions on /media/movies ?
[03:36] <rww> tsrk: you're welcome
[03:36] <snuffy47> Billiard, d775
[03:36] <Roasted> No matter what I do, cairo-dock wont luanch. It used to, I uninstalled ita nd reinstalled it, and now its borked. WHAT CAN I DO?!
[03:36] <Billiard> snuffy47: what uid/gid  ?
[03:36] <cdw32> jzacsh:  Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[03:36] <cdw32> jzacsh: thats what i got
[03:36] <linuxguy2009> Roasted: You running cairo with or without openGL?
[03:36] <snuffy47> Billiard, what is uid/gid mean
[03:36] <toubab> On windows I run the file eqgame.exe with the command 'patchme' in the target field of the shortcut.  How do I run eqgame.exe in WINE with the command patchme attached to it?
[03:36] <jzacsh> cdw32: ok, let me go look something up
[03:36] <flan_suse> Does anyone know where to configure the settings for DeviceKit and PolicyKit? I'm getting a bit frustrated at the fact that on Ubuntu Karmic and openSUSE 11.2 I can't simply insert removable media and use it (like I could with HAL.) Now it always wants the root password.
[03:37] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: whare user and group owns /media/movies
[03:37] <paragonc> where does my kernel source live?
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: what*
[03:37] <snuffy47> administrator/sambahome
[03:37] <usser> toubab, wine eqgame.exe patchme
[03:37] <toubab>  thank you usser
[03:37] <zetheroo1> anyone know where I can download the Ubuntu 9.10 repos?
[03:37] <Billiard> snuffy47: what user is deluge run as?
[03:37] <snuffy47> adminsitrator is only user on server
[03:37] <snuffy47> administrator
[03:37] <hyperstream> !mp3
[03:37] <Vero> iTunes <IP_ADDRESS> stopped
[03:37] <linuxguy2009>  flan_suse: check your user privledges.
[03:38] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I tried both.
[03:38] <Billiard> snuffy47: are you sure, you check in the process list?
[03:38] <usser> paragonc, why at /usr/src of course
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: you there?
[03:38] <linuxguy2009> Roasted: Any broken packages?
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: this is my output http://pastie.org/700521
[03:38] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Yes I am.
[03:38] <snuffy47> Billiard, process list must find command
[03:38] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I dont think so, unless the package are breaking during the last 10 times I installed it
[03:38] <Billiard> snuffy47: ps -ef | grep deluge
[03:38] <jzacsh> cdw32: i found this little thing on adobe (according to it, i also have an old version of flash), see what it tells you: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
[03:38] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: my modem got restarted suddenly so got kicked out
[03:39] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I take it you completely missed all my answers to you right?
[03:39] <Roasted> linuxguy2009 - I ran it from terminal and just launched it, but its cartoonish and looks... ridiculous... is this because the plugins are missing or osmething?
[03:39] <CaneToad> Is Karmic known to be quite broken with regards to recognition of USB devices?
[03:39] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya
[03:39] <snuffy47> 00:00:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/deluge
[03:39] <jzacsh> cdw32: here, this says it in a little box on the side: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[03:39] <flan_suse> linuxguy2009, I need to be in a special group in order to mount removable media without needing the root password?
[03:39] <cowbud> CaneToad: for harddrives yes, I filed a bug initially about that badness let me dig it up, basically some devices need to be blacklisted for a specific process so they work properly
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong1: You have the exact same wifi card that I have in my Dell Mini 10v netbook. Works in 9.10 out of the box when I enabled teh drivers in hardware drivers window. I might have had to enable restricted and the other repo so all 4 main ones were enabled for it to show up in the drivers window. The driver files are right on the CD.Did you install using unetbootin?
[03:40] <SingAlong> can somebody kick this Toto23 out? sounds like a spammer.
[03:40] <Crewsr3> When I try to play a dvd "movie" with movie player it turns off.....how can I trouble shoot this to see if its a bug.....I have the dvd codecs installed
[03:40] <BA^> hi. i'm using xfce on jaunty and need a good file manager. i don't like thunar. nautilus is ok but seems to do something funky to the window manager... not sure. also is there a file manager that will let you switch in and out of root instead of having to sudo run it? thanks.
[03:40] <Billiard> snuffy47: do ps -ef
[03:40] <cowbud> CaneToad: is it an HD?
[03:40] <CaneToad> cowbud, can you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/481489
[03:40] <cowbud> CaneToad: sure..
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> flan_suse:  you need to have user privs to mount removeable media. ystem admin users and groups
[03:40] <cdw32> jzacsh: it says im missing a plugin, but ihave flash 10 i checked in the package manager
[03:40] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i installed using the usb stick. downloaded the iso file
[03:41] <snuffy47> Billiard, what am I looking for u want me to paste bin
[03:41] <jzacsh> cdw32: which version of ubuntu are you on?
[03:41] <cowbud> CaneToad: ahh that is a different issue :( good on you though for filing a bug and including a ton of good info
[03:41] <flan_suse> linuxguy2009, okay, thanks.
[03:41] <cdw32> 8.04
[03:41] <cdw32> lts
[03:41] <Billiard> snuffy47: ps -ef | grep deluge
[03:41] <waltercool> why mplayer and avidemux are on multiverse?
[03:41] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I had the same issue when i used unetbootin. However I just purchased the matching slot load DVDRW drive from Dell for my Mini 10v and it fixed the driver detection issue. i can tell you what files to install from the CD or repos if you want.
[03:42] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: sure
[03:42] <CaneToad> cowbud, I find that sometimes, when plugging in a usb mouse, the system recognises it but X doesn't accept it, same with USB keyboards, and at times, plugging in a usb stick doesn't result in anything, also plugging in a usb audio device sometimes doesn't work....seems VERY BROKEN
[03:42] <cdw32> jzacsh:  and when i go to dl the plugin it fails
[03:42] <cyphase> has anyone else been having issues with the screensaver not starting in karmic?
[03:42] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Let me start up my Mini and check synaptic.
[03:42] <toubab> how do i run an exe from my /home/folder in wine?
[03:42] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i checked to see that the restricted repos are enabled. they are.
[03:42] <jzacsh> oh. well, lts it may be - but I have Jaunty, so I can't say what's happening on my box should be happenning on yours
[03:42] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:43] <snuffy47> Billiard, http://paste.ubuntu.com/319724/
[03:43] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: just give me a sec
[03:43] <Crewsr3> When I try to play a dvd "movie" with movie player it turns off.....how can I trouble shoot this to see if its a bug.....I have the dvd codecs installed what log files can I look at to see what is going on?
[03:43] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: sure
[03:43] <Sleepy> how do i get to #ubuntu-us-ny ?
[03:43] <jzacsh> cdw32: which link did you try? (i gave you 2)
[03:43] <helpme> DisguisedAngel, are you still here?
[03:43] <jzacsh> sleepy, i think you just type '/join #whatever'
[03:43] <cdw32> jzacsh: both
[03:44] <owen1> i just install a clean xubuntu 9.10. i installed awesome 3.3.4 (it's the one in ubuntu's repositories) and choose it from the login manager. it's not showing awesome. instead it goes back to the login mananger. am i the only one with this issue?
[03:44] <Billiard> snuffy47: looks like its running as user 1000, whos that?
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: bcmwl-kernel-source install that one.
[03:44] <jzacsh> cdw32: and did the flash animation at least play at the top of the page (second link)
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: It will need (dkms, fakeroot, patch) as deps.
[03:44] <parker-fcnyu> why does my alt-tab window switcher skip over certain applications, in an inconsistent way?
[03:44] <cdw32> no
[03:44] <Sleepy> thank jzacsh ill try it out
[03:45] <cdw32> it said download plug in
[03:45] <BA^> what's the "best" or "preferred" file manager out there?
[03:45] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya installing those
[03:45] <cdw32> jzacsh:  and the dl failed
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Ok
[03:45] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: is that it?
[03:45] <jzacsh> cdw32 hmf, sorry, i'm out of ideas.
[03:45] <Roasted> how do I keep cairo dock from auto hiding? It seems as if the disable option is... disabled
[03:46] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah me too
[03:46] <snuffy47> administrator I think I min
[03:46] <Roasted> cancel that - just fixed it
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: open the hardware drivers windows and see if the new driver shows up now.
[03:46] <waltercool> avidemux, mplayer = gpl'd, why multiverse?
[03:46] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k. its still installing.
[03:46] <cdw32> jzacsh: im going to try another re-boot
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:46] <jzacsh> cdw32: have you ever had flash on your system before? as a last resort you could try uninstalling everything adobe on your system (the enice viewer for pdfs should be fine for you)
[03:47] <CoolFox> does anybody know how to change the login style under Koala? I my boss can't have the employee list open for all to see like that, we need a username type-in
[03:47] <cdw32> jzacsh: adobe can on the computer...
[03:47] <SingAlong> can somebody just kick this guy toto23 out? he's bugging me via private messages with spam
[03:47] <CoolFox> er, you know what I mean.
[03:47] <Billiard> SingAlong: yea me too
[03:47] <jzacsh> cdw32: it *came* with the computer? (the computer came with ubuntu 8.04 installed?)
[03:47] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying the upgrade to improve my vid quality....
[03:47] <hyperstream> put him on ignore.
[03:47] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: An external CD/ DVD drive would have made it work out of the box cause then ubuntu would see the driver file on the CD as a source. I had the exact same issue.
[03:47] <snuffy47> Billiard,  	administrator 	1000 	administrator 	administrator 	/home/administrator 	/bin/bas
[03:48] <cdw32> jzacsh: yes it did
[03:48] <cfedde> SingAlong: add the nic to an ignore.
[03:48] <SingAlong> Billiard: unfortunaly i havent learnt how to kick/ban people on IRC.
[03:48] <toubab> how do i run an exe from my /home/folder in wine with full administrator privledges
[03:48] <SingAlong> cfedde: thanks!
[03:48] <Billiard> SingAlong: i think only a mod can
[03:48] <jzacsh> cdw32: you're trying to upgrade what? your software? your operating system? or hardware?
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: packages done installing?
[03:48] <Billiard> snuffy47: so what does deluge say when you try to save somewhere else?
[03:48] <cdw32> jzacsh: software...just adobe from 9 to 10 flash player..
[03:49] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: yes. checking for new drivers
[03:49] <snuffy47> it works in the home/administrator folder
[03:49] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: cool
[03:49] <cyphase> has anyone else been having issues with the screensaver not starting automatically in karmic?
[03:49] <zetheroo1> anyone here know where to get the Ubuntu repo from?
[03:49] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i found 2 drivers Broadcom b43 and STA. which one do i install?
[03:49] <jzacsh> cdw32 yeah, try a reboot like you said. then if it doesn't work I'd try removing everything adobe so you know you're startign from scratch
[03:49] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1: STA is the actual driver. ignore the other.
[03:50] <snuffy47> Billiard, Its permissions but hmmm
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1:Then your wifi will work like magic.
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> sorry
[03:50] <CoolFox> no takers?
[03:50] <zetheroo1>  linuxguy2009: huh?
[03:50] <Billiard> snuffy47: thats what deluge says? no permission to write there?
[03:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok brb
[03:50] <Roasted> cairo dock question - the dock is like 3/4 of an inch above the bottom of my screen. how can I align that sucker so its against the bottom?
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> zetheroo1: sorry my bad
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Your wifi will work like magic now/
[03:50] <zetheroo1>  linuxguy2009: no worries
[03:50] <jzacsh> Roasted: i think i'v'e used cairo before. i think its a preference (what' you're asking to adjust)
[03:51] <Roasted> jzacsh - sooo where do I go to adjust it?
[03:51] <jzacsh> Roasted: you could also try gnome-do (one of my favorite apps) - it has a dock-feature
[03:51] <CoolFox> should I just ask on ubuntu's forums? I mean, the option was there in Jaunty, wasn't it?
[03:51] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Any luck?
[03:51] <snuffy47> Billiard, It says status permission denied but that is on a download screen
[03:52] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: i restarted networking after activating STA driver. but still wireless doesnt show up.
[03:52] <jzacsh> roasted, i don't remember, I haven't used it in a while. try right-clicking on a few parts of the dock and finding the "preference" window (something along those lines - i *do* remember adjusting that, though)
[03:52] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Is your raouter broadcasting the SSID?  Im so lost on where to go in the config menu
[03:52] <Roasted> jzacsh - got it!
[03:53] <zetheroo1> I am curious ... anyone here using Ubuntu in a developing nation?
[03:53] <jzacsh> Roasted: awesome. now try out gnome-do tomorow :)
[03:53] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: its an open network. it should be detected automatically
[03:53] <Roasted> jzacsh - already have gnome-do installed
[03:53] <Roasted> jzacsh - you use docky with gnome do?
[03:53] <zetheroo1> or .. has anyone here ever used Ubuntu (or another Linux distro) in a developing nation?
[03:53] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: That depends on if the SSID is being broadcast or if it isnt it has tro be added manually.
[03:53] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: should i try the b43 driver?
[03:53] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: No that isnt a driver
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: oh.
[03:54] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: try a reboot
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: in my previous 9.04, it used to detect automatically. same when i upgraded to 9.10
[03:54] <Billiard> snuffy47: maybe there are permissions in the webui to limit download location, idk
[03:54] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[03:54] <zetheroo1> I find it strange that even though Ubuntu and other Linux distro's have such an appeal to those in under-developed nations its almost useless for many because of a lack of broadband
[03:54] <jzacsh> roasted no, i got rid of docky (i didn't like it much). but gnome-do serves me will (and if you like the dock feature, then the dock-option in the theme-tab of the pref. window will satisfy you0
[03:54] <snuffy47> Billiard, If the directory in question is adminstrator/sambahome and adminstrator is part of sambahome then I should be good to go.  I wondering if I can make deluge part of sambahome group
[03:54] <Roasted> jzacsh - that is docky...
[03:54] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Where ?
[03:54] <zetheroo1> I never realised how stifled life with Ubuntu can be without broadband until I went to Africa for 6 months and felt so lost - ha
[03:55] <Billiard> snuffy47: users belong to groups, not programs
[03:55] <snuffy47> Billiard, Not using webgui using the client program
[03:55] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: pretty much any developing nation really ...
[03:55] <snuffy47> Billiard, Man these permissions are killing me
[03:55] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: Its a bit ironic
[03:55] <cdw32> jzacsh: im back
[03:55] <stealth-> how can I get the PID's of a process name?
[03:55] <jzacsh> roasted: oh yeah, haha - I thought "docky" was another name of ciaro or something (its really been a while since i used it). your answer: yes I've *used* docky. but, i got sick of the dock all together.
[03:56] <eduardo_> Hello, somebody have install the driver for realtek in ubuntu 9.10, I have problems with it
[03:56] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: because those are the people who need it the most ... who cannot afford MS and Apple products ...
[03:56] <Billiard> snuffy47: what is the exact error it gives you?, so i can google
[03:56] <Roasted> jzacsh - did you have a preference in whcih dock you liked more despite not using any anymore?
[03:56] <cdw32> jzacsh: it worked
[03:56] <jzacsh> roasted: i find the quicksilver-style features of gnome-do's themes much better
[03:56] <cdw32> jzacsh: it installed
[03:56] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: "under-developed nations" are well knowned to use worst shit aka zindowz ?
[03:56] <jzacsh> roasted nope :(, sorry
[03:56] <eduardo_> my computer reboot after some minutes when I connect to the wifi network
[03:56] <jzacsh> cdw32, it works now?
[03:56] <cdw32> im checking\
[03:57] <snuffy47> Billiard, Thats the thing it is only permissions denied cannt find the damn log I will do some more digging I appreciated it B
[03:57] <Bam_Bam> Does grub install to sda if that is windows and sdb is an external with ubuntu on it?
[03:57] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: exactly my point .. they would use Linux if the additional software was more accessible .. this is what I have found while being there ...
[03:57] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: no luck.
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: What is the netowork SSID?
[03:58] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: but i have blacklisted acer_wmi in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf should i remove that?
[03:58] <cdw32> jzacsh: i can watch vids, but the picture lags really bad
[03:58] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: How do i find that?
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Chances are the SSID isnt being broadcast. Otherwise you would know it.
[03:58] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: two days ago I offered Ubuntu to a group doing humanitarian work there ... and they loved it .. until I told them that the additional software would have to be downloaded
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: well the network is called "Akash"
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Yeah thats the SSID.
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: oh sorry. the SSIS is UTStarcom
[03:59] <snuffy47> Billiard, the Directory Media is owned by root that might be the proble,m
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[03:59] <TheCheeze> SingAlong, is that the network name or the workgroup name? ;)
[03:59] <TheCheeze> SingAlong, nevermind, you figured it out lol
[03:59] <jzacsh> cdw32: phew, thought it wasn't going to work. as far as the lagging: this is a draw back to flash as a linux user (and in my opinion, flash in general). I found when I upgraded from the last ubuntu 8 into 9 the lag went away.
[03:59] <snuffy47> need to make it 775 also
[03:59] <SingAlong> TheCheeze: SSIS
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: right click the network icon and edit connections
[03:59] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: You're from america neh, it's an under-developed country, check the clues... They are all here.
[03:59] <SingAlong> TheCheeze: SSID
[03:59] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[03:59] <Bam_Bam> Does grub install to sda if that is windows and sdb is an external with ubuntu on it?
[03:59] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64, I am running into a couple of problems. One, When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet", I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: huh ? I am not from America
[04:00] <aperson> there is no 'eject' in the context menu for my cd drives when there is a blank cd inserted and the eject button in nautilus does not work, any ideas?  my drives' physical eject buttons seem to be disabled also, I have to resort to using the eject command
[04:00] <EasyTUX> ;)
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: and?
[04:00] <Billiard> snuffy47: as long as you have read and execute permissions it should be fine
[04:00] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: under wireless , click add, enter the ssid or network name.Apply and close.
[04:00] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok, but i cant upgrade until 10.4 i believe
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: and America is not termed an "under-developed" nation at all
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: there's a wireless tab. and i clicked add there
[04:00] <jzacsh> bam_bam I believe grub can be installed wherever you tell it to install (you should read up on how to install grub)
[04:00] <webbb82> ok i just installed namebar   how do i take off the normal window borders so i can save space   look here to see the namebar app  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/NameBar?content=101643
[04:00] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: where are you from?
[04:00] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: network name?
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: The SSID
[04:01] <anarcap> Just throwing this out there. (Not expecting anyone to diagnose my problem necessarily) -- I have an ATI Radeon x1650 card that seems to work fine (2d, 3d) but shows mild tearing while playing flash via Hulu, YouTube, etc. Not sure if it's driver (using ubuntu generic), or flash 10 (Adobe's driver). I know it's not compiz since I turn it off. Any ideas, suggestions?
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: If its not being broadcast then you have to manually enter it.
[04:01] <snuffy47> if root owns it I wonnt but what if I make adminstrator member of root goroup
[04:01] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Where do you come from then, you over-developed guy ! ;)
[04:01] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k i entered UTStarcom in that place and added it
[04:01] <Guest93250> so could anyone tell me the sudo for installing frostwire or limewire?
[04:01] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: if you deem the US to be "under-developed" you should take a trip to Zambia or Bangladesh or something ...
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: try firefox
[04:02] <Billiard> snuffy47: you shouldnt do that, just givning /media read and execute is all you need, which should be the default
[04:02] <IdleOne> !frostwire
[04:02] <Bam_Bam> jzacsh, I'm trying to help someone who used the ubuntu installer and it appears grub was installed on his XP drive
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: shouldnt i be selecting the wireless connection first?
[04:02] <cdw32> jzacsh: i just looked in package manager and it says that it is NOT installed
[04:02] <jzacsh> cdw32: yeah, i know its not  a solution, sorry to break the news to you. you could try the free versions of flash (though I really think that'll be a waste of your time). just curiuos, how come you can "not" upgrade until LTS?
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: not working
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Well yeah if its listed.
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Try removing the blacklist entry and reboot.
[04:02] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k
[04:03] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: Just like china is...
[04:03] <Ironicus> what advantage ubuntu has on mandriva for coders?
[04:03] <Ironicus> I like the mandriva's skin
[04:03] <greezmunkey> sweeeeetttt, 0 swap used!
[04:03] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: I am Swiss-German/German ... been to 40+ countries on 6 continents
[04:03] <jzacsh> Bam_Bam: I say "you should read about grub" not because I don't want to try and figure it out for you, but because that's the only advice i have (i honestly don't understand much about masterboot records and how the specific boot process works)
[04:03] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have tried upgradeing in the past and it does not work then someone tole mw that LTS versions can only replace LLTS versions
[04:03] <Ironicus> but something tells me ubuntu is better
[04:03] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: so your from China?
[04:03] <ningu> hey... how can I get ubuntu 9.10 to not start gdm on boot, but just boot into the command line (every time)?
[04:04] <ningu> I tried removing gdm from the runlevels with update-rc.d, as suggested in forums, but it has no effect.
[04:04] <zetheroo1>  EasyTUX: are you saying that Zambia and Bangladesh is as developed as China?
[04:04] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: please take your discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:04] <jzacsh> cdw32, ah - I see. um, I'd suggest (and I suggest this for any operating system) - that you clean install once in a while. I don't think I've ever upgraded a computer.
[04:04] <zetheroo1> losha: why? its Ubuntu oriented
[04:05] <rhett> I get this when doing sudo aptitude update on a new ec2 karmic launch from canonical: Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:05] <cdw32> jzacsh: how does one go about that
[04:05] <cdw32> lol
[04:05] <rhett> it can ping security.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <jzacsh> cdw32: first of all: make *absolutely sure* you are very confident in your back up system (and make one, if you dont' have one)
[04:05] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: debating which country is more developed does seem ubuntu-oriented to me, but worse, it's boring...
[04:05] <EasyTUX> losha: Okay...
[04:05] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: does -> doesn't
[04:05] <cdw32> jzacsh:  like make a  copy of all of my files
[04:06] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: still no luck
[04:06] <zetheroo1> losha: have you been following since the beginning? .. :) we may have trailed onto a side-road but if your had seen where it came from you would know that it is Ubuntu oriented - by the way .. where are you from?
[04:06] <ningu> no suggestions? I'm not sure how startup works in 9.10, but it looks like it may not use runlevels any more, since there is no /etc/inittab
[04:06] <EasyTUX> losha: What do you prefer in your country ? ;P
[04:06] <jzacsh> cdw32: when I say "clean install", I mean you should make one last backup, clear out your entire hard drive (aka clean), install whatever OS you want on the new/fresh drive you've cleaned. then move your backed-up files into the new system.
[04:06] <zetheroo1> losha: sorry that you are bored ... :(
[04:06] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: click on the network icon you should see a wired network section and a wireless section
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: have the wireless one?
[04:07] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: so are you from China?
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: ok...
[04:07] <sebsebseb> !ot |  zetheroo1
[04:07] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: nope. but i found something wrong. the STA was disabled. just enabling it.
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: 9.10 is the latest, so i should go with that
[04:07] <jzacsh> cdw32: yes, backup is essentially a copy of all your files. but it can become complicated when you begin to consider permissions, automation, best-practice as far as saving space, etc.
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Theres why.
[04:07] <ha1331> When I start watching video file, SMPlayer uses about 16MB of memory, after I drag and drop another to same window, it suddenly uses ~320MB. After second video file, it doesn't seem to allocate more, but I have seen it use over 400MB many times. Any ideas what causes this? MPlayer process steadily uses 16-18MB.
[04:07] <cdw32> jzacsh: and see
[04:07] <losha> zetheroo1: EasyTUX: I think it;s best to keep this channel for its intended purpose: ubuntu support. By all means, discuss it in  #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah i have no clue
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: i can turn the copmuter on and off
[04:08] <cdw32> lol
[04:08] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: again ... not off-topic .. please ask about the discussion before labelling it "off-topic"
[04:08] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:08] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: let me activate it and try restarting
[04:08] <jzacsh> cdw32: keep in mind, a clean install is a bit of an endevear (you may be distracted mid-process and leave your computer w/o an operating system while you go out to lunch/ or w/e)
[04:08] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: ok
[04:08] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: I will surely. Now be gentle with the miss please, shut up.
[04:08] <cdw32> jzacsh: how long are we talking
[04:08] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ah! now after i activated it, it says that i need to restart my comp :)
[04:08] <rhett> Toto23 is spamming me
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: good sign
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: but the wireless is already working :D
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: thank you! thanks a lot!
[04:09] <losha> rhett: Toto23 just tried to PM me...
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Huge High Five!!!
[04:09] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: uh ok ... "be gentle with the miss"? "I will surely be"?
[04:09] <SingAlong> losha: i know with what links :P
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: haha :D
[04:09] <cdw32> jzacsh: i would have to do a usb boot since i do not have a cd drive
[04:09] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: now i can installed emacs and all dev tools without a wired tail for my netbook
[04:10] <jzacsh> cdw32: as long as you make it. installs (from the time you click "install" to the time you log into your new/empty system usually take me about an hour. then you wnat to consider backing up your files first (however long that takes), then playing it safe: unarchive your backup, and make sure everything is there and looks normal), then the time it takes you to put your files back on the new system
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: Might be a good idea to invest in an external bus powered CD/DVD drive like I did for this exact reason.
[04:10] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: b/w whats the pkg name? bcmwl-kernel-source?
[04:10] <jzacsh> cdw32: h/o
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: yep thats the one.
[04:10] <zetheroo1> losha: the question originally regarding the solutions for the problem many have in the developing world of not being able to access broadband like the rest of "us" can in the developed world .... any ideas?
[04:10] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: And quit your "IT crowed" manners please, life is UN-certain...
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: If you would have installed from a CD/DVD it would have seen the drivers right away.
[04:10] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:10] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: also "switch to desktop mode" option seems to be missing in 9.10
[04:11] <cdw32> jzacsh: i dont have a lot on here
[04:11] <sebsebseb> !ot |  zetheroo1
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: just add the package. Need the name?
[04:11] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: your rudeness is not becoming of an Ubuntu community member and totally uncalled-for
[04:11] <losha> zetheroo1: frankly, the original question was off topic for this group...
[04:11] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ya
[04:11] <zetheroo1> losha: how is that off-topic?
[04:11] <zetheroo1> =-O
[04:11] <webbb82> what is ibus
[04:11] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: thank you for the heads-up ... I already replied to you though ... :)
[04:12] <EasyTUX> zetheroo1: So what tf candide.
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: 1 min gotta remeber the name. hehe
[04:12] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: :D
[04:12] <sebsebseb> !troll |  zetheroo1
[04:12] <zetheroo1> EasyTUX: candide? ...
[04:12] <cdw32> jzacsh: that would be .iso i think'
[04:13] <jzacsh> cdw32 what would be .iso?
[04:13] <cdw32> jzacsh: the new os
[04:13] <sridharp1> !
[04:13] <zetheroo1> sebsebseb: yeah ..  :P
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: I cant find it. Ill ask the room.
[04:14] <jzacsh> cdw32: i don't follow. are you looking at the downloads page of Ubuntu? The ubuntu downloads are in .iso formats, I think, yes.
[04:14] <greezmunkey> I should rm -r /var/log/dumbass then?
[04:14] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: k :)
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know the name of the package for netbook remix to allow you to change desktop mode from normal to netbook?
[04:14] <Irakirashia> aptitude wants me to install some openoffice packages and in the installation when it tries to remove the existing packages it hangs out, I can't remove them manually, and I can't download anything else. How do I fix it?
[04:14] <cdw32> jzacsh: but i think i need .img format cause i do not a cd drive
[04:15] <cygnus_> what is the most bleeding edge ubuntu called?
[04:15] <zetheroo1> funny ay ... as soon as you bring up an issue which people really have no remedy for ... and probably have never thought of ... people act all  ... "I am so annoyed" and " Your a troll" .... really people you can do better than that ... after all you are Linux users ... :-/
[04:15] <cygnus_> i want to upgrade from 9.10 to that
[04:15] <sebsebseb> cygnus_: early  lucid versions will be rather similar to Karmic
[04:15] <jzacsh> cdw32 oooooh, okay. ha, i didn't know what you were talking about. to make a USB installer: download "unetbootin" via synaptic. also get a USB drive that's at least 1GB and has nothing else on it (as it will be erased)
[04:15] <cygnus_> i need to run glassfish
[04:16] <cygnus_> karmic is incompatible with it
[04:16] <linuxguy2009> SingAlong: hmm be patient friend Ill find it if you really need it.
[04:16] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: I'm right here :) np
[04:16] <jzacsh> cdw32: I just found this nifty little graphical app for backing up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault
[04:17] <snuffy47> Billiard, do you think I should change the owner of media to administrator instead of root?
[04:17] <cdw32> jzacsh: im sorry that is what
[04:17] <Billiard> snuffy47: absolutly not, lol
[04:17] <jzacsh> cdw32: my opinion: before doing anything drastic, spend a week or so getting used to a new backup schema, playing with it, unarchiving old backups and making sure you know what do to with a backup when you need one (also figure how you're going to keep your backups somewhere other than on your harddrive)
[04:18] <dsnyders> cygnus_, What's glassfish?
[04:18] <Billiard> snuffy47: you can try it and it wont be any different than just having 755 on /media
[04:18] <zetheroo1> Toto23 ... how about asking before you PM ... Thanks :)
[04:18] <cygnus_> dsnyders: java server
[04:18] <Datz> Hi I just installed ubuntu 9.10 64 bit, I am running into a couple of problems. When I boot, I get" panel encountered a problem "FastUsersSwitchApplet" does not load. , I could really use this applet, is there a known fix?
[04:18] <cygnus_> zetheroo1: i think it's a robot
[04:18] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have never backed up before
[04:18] <snuffy47> Billiard, I donnt get it then maybe it is because I have 775 on movies1
[04:18] <jzacsh> cdw32: that was an article for timevault. its an application for helping ubuntu users backup files. see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeVault/ScreenShots
[04:19] <jzacsh> cdw32: no better time to start then *immediately*. there's nothing like losing your stuff, let me tell you.
[04:19] <snuffy47> Billiard, deluge chat says it will write were ever I want
[04:19] <cdw32> lol
[04:19] <hyperstream_> SB X-FI Xtreme Audio CA0110-IBG <-- my sound card i listed in 'System > Pref > Sound' but it wont play back any audio of any kind
[04:19] <Gametime> I just installed ubuntu today, and i was going to use GRUB to dual boot between my windows 7 and Linux. Now i've done this before, but this time whenever i start my computer, it takes me to a black screen / terminal and i dont know how to get by it or get to boot into either partition. Any help?
[04:19] <Billiard> snuffy47: whats the permissions on movies1 thats the same as movies?
[04:19] <jbuncher> I just use rsync for backups, works great
[04:19] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have most of my school work on my thumbdrive now, and most of the programs i have on here i can re dl
[04:20] <hyperstream_> !X-FI
[04:20] <hyperstream_> !SB
[04:20] <snuffy47> Billiard, there is no movies just movies 1
[04:20] <lesterc> can anyone tell me which gpg key(s) I should have in my system keyring to be able to install ruby on hardy?
[04:20] <snuffy47> wait wait it might be something else one minute
[04:20] <dsnyders> cygnus_, Have you looked at http://balajinatarajan.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/installing-glassfish-on-ubuntu-linux/
[04:20] <zetheroo1> cygnus_: nope ... ha ... if you saw what he/she is doing .... just a waste of time ... sending links to pics etc
[04:20] <hyperstream_> finaly Toto23 was klined :D
[04:20] <zetheroo1> there you go ... Toto23 left ... :)
[04:20] <Datz> can anyone help me with what I should do about my earlier question?
[04:20] <dsnyders> cygnus_, or http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/spoonerandrew/entry/glassfish_on_ubuntu/
[04:20] <Billiard> snuffy47: ok
[04:20] <Irakirashia> aptitude wants me to install some openoffice packages and in the installation when it tries to remove the existing packages it hangs out, I can't remove them manually, and I can't download anything else. How do I fix it? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327720
[04:21] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: whats your Dell Mini model?
[04:21] <zetheroo1> but .... I am a troll ... why am i not being kicked out ... haha ...
[04:21] <Billiard> snuffy47: can administator write there without using sudo?
[04:21] <bugaloo> hi guys, could anyone help me with a googleearth problem on ubuntu 9.10? I think this is not only with me... I just installed googleeart, everything seems to be fine, but when I try to trace a route, it's like if route was out of the map. Some times it draws the route over the sea.. does anyone knows what it could be? It happens on different computers with 9.10
[04:21] <jzacsh> cdw32: well, its up to you, if you feel absolutely confident that deleting everything on your harddrive will not result in data loss for you, then go for it. but if that backup you just made (on your harddrive) is your only one, you may want to make a few more in other places. (i can't tell you how many times i thought i had everything that mattered to me backed up, and then only when moving onto a new system did I remember i should've backe
[04:21] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: ah k. dell mini 10v
[04:21] <linuxguy2009>  SingAlong: Maybe we can talk in an IM might get yelled at.
[04:22] <andresmh> For the past few days I've been prompted to do a Partial Upgrade due to the removal of some pulseaudio package. Anyone experiencing this? Are we supposed to go ahead and accept the removal?
[04:22] <SingAlong> linuxguy2009: np. i found out :)
[04:22] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, Im installing GE now...I'll let you know what I find.
[04:22] <lesterc> I got a "signature check failed" message when installing ruby on hardy (TLS) - see http://paste.ubuntu.com/319741/
[04:22] <dsnyders> Datz, People come and go here.  Ask your question again.
[04:22] <jzacsh> cdw32: i mean: (on your thumbdrive)
[04:22] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, thanks
[04:22] <linuxguy2009>  SingAlong: cool
[04:22] <snuffy47> touch test I will check
[04:22] <EasyTUX> I get pa volume level to 1526% when video plays in firefox (wmv, flash, etc...). Any guess to put it back to a sane value like 100% for example ?
[04:23] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, Takes a bit to decompress, huh!
[04:24] <jzacsh> cdw32 anyways, once you're confident that you can clear your harddrive. just boot your computer from the ubuntu installer, and you'll find yourself on a step in the installation that allows you to install over your existing installation (and in turn deleting everything on that installation). as far as creating the insatller thumb-drive: once you've downloaded the proper ubuntu*.iso file, you can open unetbootin, select the iso from the "brow
[04:24] <wolf23> somebody help plz!
[04:24] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, no problem... are you installing from GoogleEarth binary or synaptic?
[04:24] <andresmh> Update Manager wants to remove pulseaudio-module-udev as part of a Partial Upgrade. Can someone tell me if I can accept without causing any damages?
[04:24] <oddhyena> hi
[04:24] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, bin
[04:24] <dsnyders> !ask
[04:24] <jzacsh> wolf23: can't help you if you don't say whats wrong
[04:24] <bugaloo> ok
[04:25] <cdw32> jzacsh: what would need to be backed up that im not thinking of
[04:25] <datz_> Hi, when I load ubuntu, I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading"OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".
[04:25] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, once it's done I run run the symlink, right?
[04:25] <andresmh> I've noticed the response rates and quality of ubuntuforums has significantly decreased, it's kinda sad. Perhaps the size of the community is too large now
[04:25] <greezmunkey> just run
[04:25] <nhasian> in packages, whats the difference between depends, recommends, and suggests?
[04:25] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, right
[04:25] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, runs here too... but try to trace a route
[04:26] <jzacsh> cdw32: I'm not sure, every person is different. if you're positive that there's nothing that belongs to you oustide of your /home/ directory, than you can make one massive backup of the /home/ directory
[04:26] <wolf23> jzacsh: my child always play nintendo games by gfceu on jaunty, ut now on karmic it doesnot work just if i desactivate the sound
[04:26] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, thought so...
[04:26] <bugaloo> greezmunkey, lika "from here... to here"
[04:26] <Billiard> nhasian: it needs the depends pacages the other ones are what it recomends and suggests lol
[04:26] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, ok, I will.
[04:27] <jzacsh> wolf23: sorry, i have no experience with games on Ubuntu. try looking for help in that particular community? or maybe someone here can help..
[04:27] <greezmunkey> bugaloo, my goal is to be able to tie into it with my Garmin gps for wireless site surveys, we'll see.
[04:27] <gdmsetup> i need to stop pulseaudio... ive tried killall pulseaudio and /etc/init.d/pulseaudio -k and all they do is restart pulseaudio... they only solution ive found is uninstalling pulse, but i dont want to remove it just stop it... how can i do this?
[04:28] <home> Morning gentlemen, anybody else getting an orange image after booting a Wubi installation of Karmic?
[04:28] <nhasian> Billiard, yeah i know the depends one but specifically what is the different between recommends and suggests though?  like why does empathy recommend telepathy-gabble but only suggests telepathy-butterfly?
[04:29] <Billiard> nhasian: because they think more users will want gabble than butterfly i guess
[04:29] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: a proper partitioned install of Ubuntu would be better in the long run
[04:29] <wolf23> helpers, can anyone tell me about a good emulator for nintendo .nes games on karmic plz?
[04:30] <Jahmon> Anyone able to help me with Ubuntu and Aircrack?
[04:30] <kdjfksfcn> any way to associate different icons per network service in nautilus? there is no visual differenciation with sftp, ftp and smb on same server,,they all look the same and i dont know what to click, *snif* :/
[04:30] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I know, I will do the next time I clear up my drives, but I'm not even getting the short run, worked alright with Jaunty
[04:30] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: run: ps -au<uname> | grep -i pulse
[04:30] <ALT-F4> Howdy, I'm using Ubuntu 9.04. I'm having difficulty getting my Logitech QuickCam to work. Does anyone have any advice?
[04:30] <nhasian> Billiard, doesnt make sense to me.  telepathy-butterfly is needed for communication on the msn messenger network.  so out of the box empathy is not compatible unless you add an extra package?
[04:30] <greezmunkey> Jahmon, there are tutorials on youtube...
[04:30] <wgrant> nhasian: On karmic at least, telepathy-butterfly is Recommended.
[04:31] <jzacsh> gdmsetup this will show you the process number assigned to pulse audio. then run kill <proc#>
[04:31] <Billiard> nhasian: dunno then, its just how they setup the packages
[04:31] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: but am that wont stop pulse from starting next time i boot?
[04:31] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well  Karmic is a bit of a bad release in certain ways for example things  not working that used to in jaunty
[04:31] <Jahmon> greezmunkey - i know how it works etc - however something is stopping my card injecting from time to time and if i do a network-manager stop then it refuses to inject
[04:31] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, what model and whathappens?
[04:32] <jzacsh> gdmsetup oh, to remove it from startup: system > preferences > startup applications
[04:32] <ALT-F4> jbuncher: I am uncertain as to the model, but I get a static screen and then the program exits.
[04:32] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: plus the new stuff in Karmic is hardly worth it, if running jaunty.   Well 10.04 should be quite a bit better since it's the next long term support as well.
[04:32] <Jahmon> !pastebin
[04:32] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: see if its in that list
[04:32] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, what program?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: if you want to try Karmic, how about a Live CD?
[04:32] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: bash: error sintáctico cerca del elemento inesperado `|'
[04:32] <jatt> !es
[04:32] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: if it's of any concern, I mounted the iso in daemontools and installed, rather than burnt to CD, does Karmic have any post-install necessity for CD?
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> how do i reset the gnome panels in 9,10
[04:33] <nhasian> wgrant, hmm maybe because i'm using the official empathy PPA they bumped telepathy-butterfly down to suggests instead of recommends for some reason
[04:33] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, Camorama
[04:33] <greezmunkey> Anyone know how to give a running process access to a higher percentage of cpu resources, I know the PID.
[04:33] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: ok that's not what your meant to do with an ISO
[04:33] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, does it work in cheese?
[04:33] <cdw32> jzacsh: i dl unetbootin and installed but it says that mtools are missing
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> hmm
[04:33] <wgrant> nhasian: Possibly. Little to do with Ubuntu, anyway.
[04:33] <jzacsh> gdmsetup: sorry, I can't read ?spanish? try translating that in google translate?..
[04:33] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: As I mentioned, worked with Jaunty
[04:33] <reduz> gu guys, question, is ubuntu 9.10 more usable now? as i've heard it was full of bugs on release.. as in, is it safer for me to isntall it now?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: you can run  Karmic to get a feel for it inside Windows, in a virtual machine, as long as you have enough RAM
[04:33] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, "man nice"
[04:33] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, I will try that now. But my goal is to get it to work with a chat program, much like yahoo chat in Windows.
[04:33] <Moon_Doggy> ubottu panels
[04:34] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, I'll check it, thanks!
[04:34] <kg> what does "umount: /media/cdrom2 mount disagrees with the fstab" mean?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: and enough hard disk space,  for the vm software and such, which you probably do
[04:34] <jzacsh> cdw32: did you install it via synaptic?
[04:34] <phrix> hi all... I wanna buzz in empathy using YM protocol... any clue...??
[04:34] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, well, if it works in cheese, I think I know how to get it to work.  You said you were running jaunty right?
[04:34] <Moon_Doggy> ubottu ty
[04:34] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, yes, Jaunty, 9.04
[04:34] <Moon_Doggy> i know
[04:34] <Billiard> kg: you mouted something as root which doesnt agree with the fstab file, you will have to unmount it as root, use sudo
[04:35] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I have Win7 in Vbox  :D  Also, is there much difference between the upgrade and the clean install of Karmic? Save for a few bugs, there didn't seem much added anyway
[04:35] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: normalely Windows as host,   with  Ubuntu or another Linux distro in a vm, I woudn't recommend that normalley
[04:35] <cdw32> jzacsh:  um no i just made it executalbe under properties
[04:35] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, yes that's for something I am about to start. I want to know if it's possible to give a running process a higher priority.
[04:35] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: which Windows is psyicailly installed on there?  XP?
[04:35] <dAlfa89_> XP SP3
[04:36] <sebsebseb> ok
[04:36] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: its easier with system monitor...
[04:36] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: as for upgrades from 9.04 well  many people got issues after doing that
[04:36] <cdw32> jzacsh: how do i do that
[04:36] <jzacsh> cdw32: i think your best bet is to always try synaptic or "add/remove" first
[04:36] <jzacsh> cdw32 try doing it that way. go to synaptic and search "unetbootin"
[04:36] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, http://www.forwardyouth.com/ubuntu/set-the-nice-level-of-an-existing-process/
[04:36] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: however  the ones  I  read  weren't Wubi installs
[04:36] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, thanks for the reminder about that one, it's been a while!
[04:36] <reduz> so, is 9.10 more stable now? can i upgrade?
[04:37] <gdmsetup> jzacsh: ive killed it but it comes up again--- cant kill it...
[04:37] <cdw32> jzacsh: i did nothing came up
[04:37] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, ok, I'll check that.
[04:37] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: last question: any big deal with ext4, or is there not much difference from ext3?
[04:37] <Billiard> reduz: you can upgrade
[04:37] <jzacsh> gdmsetup oh- great, i forget about the graphic windows sometimes. well, you want to remove it from startup -killing it right now won't help you
[04:37] <datz_> Hi, when I load ubuntu, I get an error: The panel encountered a problem while loading"OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet".  I'd very much like to get this applet to work if anyone has any ideas.
[04:37] <anathematic> I just had an issue with my ubuntu server becoming unresponsive / no ssh or apache access. What logs should I check now it's been power cycled?
[04:37] <losha> nhasian<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mentions the meaning of "Recommends" and refers to a policy that I don't seem able to find...
[04:37] <Billiard> datz_: try choosing remove from panel, then add it manually?
[04:38] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, if it works in cheese, it may be that you need to load a compatibility library.  I had to do that with my Logitech cam on Intrepid and Jaunty in order to get it to work with Skype (worked with cheese though).  Check out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1133991.html for details.
[04:38] <jzacsh> cdw32: sounds like you just need to allow all repositories (i totally don't remember how to turn on all repositories in synaptic)
[04:38] <datz_> Billiard: I didn't see it there, let me check again
[04:38] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I  nearly tried  Wubi properly  for 9.10,  just to try, and I like how  it warned  about   not getting full disk performance and such.   As for why I coudn't boot up Wubi or  the Debian thing that is similar it seems to of been, becasue Windows wasn't on the first partition on the hard disk.
[04:38] <Billiard> anathematic: /var/log/syslog  maybe
[04:38] <ALT-F4> jbuncher: thanks, I will certainly do that if it works when cheese is done installing.
[04:38] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah im not far off
[04:38] <anathematic> thanks Billiard I'll check it out now
[04:39] <anathematic> it's actually happened twice today after 200+ days uptime so something is weird
[04:39] <jzacsh> cdw32 try synaptic settings > repositories
[04:39] <datz_> Billiard: I can't find it, in the add to panel selection
[04:39] <webbb82> do you guys like openbox  im trying to figure out if i wanna use it
[04:39] <cdw32> jzacsh: there
[04:39] <Billiard> datz_: maybe you need to add it from the package manager
[04:39] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Ext4  well  in 9.04 oh yes big difference
[04:40] <datz_> Billiard: I'll check, I've already added gnome applets
[04:40] <heyho> webbb82: openbox is great, use the closed-source version for the best
[04:40] <nhasian> losha, thanks that helps
[04:40] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, it is working in cheese. I'm going to do that link you sent me now. I appreciate your help! Thanks :)
[04:40] <cdw32> jzacsh: i have three tabs
[04:40] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: much faster  boot up, shut down, and disk checking after 23 or so boots with Ext4 in 9.04, but since the kernel they have and such it's not perfectly stable there
[04:40] <webbb82> heyho, where can i get that
[04:40] <bigcat> what is a "bit mask"
[04:40] <jzacsh> cdw32 okay, read the options, see if there's a way to turn on more resoures (repositories are just the places where synaptic package manager looks to find you softwre). I believe unetbootin is 3rd party software (not cannonical mantained), so you have to enable 3rd party software
[04:40] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: stable enough I should put rather htan perfectly stable
[04:41] <heyho> sun's website, download the .deb package webbb82
[04:41] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: It seems a common theme that many aspects of Karmic aren't stable ;D
[04:41] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, let me know if it works
[04:41] <YaST> guys wich IRC client would u consider the best for you guys? need opinions... bitchx ? irssi? xchat?
[04:41] <Billiard> bigcat: in what context?
[04:41] <heyho> irssi ftw YaST
[04:41] <webbb82> heyho,  isnt this it  http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Openbox:Download
[04:41] <jzacsh> irssi
[04:41] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: stable enough to be relyed on for  really important data and such, well I never got problems in 9.04 with Ext4, some other people did.  As for 9.10 and Ext4 and 9.10 and Ext3, I  first did my clean install of 9.10  with Ext3 to test that
[04:41] <ALT-F4> YaST, I'm using xchat right now cuz it's pointed directly to this channel for me to get help, but I normally use Konversation, I think it's really good.
[04:41] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I have been testing it when it was in development since alpha 4
[04:41] <jbuncher> dAlfa89_, ymmv on that one
[04:42] <tishikawa1> important data does not belong on an ubuntu system
[04:42] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: then I put it on with Ext4 for my proper install
[04:42] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, [s]nice Thanks, it seems to work - you're ok, you know that!
[04:42] <YaST> im on irssi atm
[04:42] <cdw32> jzacsh: i ahve to physically put in the repository
[04:42] <Billiard> tishikawa1: why would you say that?
[04:42] <bigcat> thank you billiard,i think i have found out
[04:42] <YaST> since bitchx isnt in the repo's anymore in karmic
[04:42] <heyho> webbb82: my bad, i was thinking of virtualbox... what i use
[04:42] <hyperstream_> SB X-FI Xtreme Audio CA0110-IBG <-- my sound card is listed in 'System > Pref > Sound' but it wont play back any audio of any kind
[04:42] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, lol thanks, glad it helped
[04:42] <hyperstream_> it shows up in alsamixer too
[04:42] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: which I might be getting rid of  not  that long from now, if indeed it turns out that  Mandriva 2010 is a great distro,  well I had vm'd an RC and was quite impressed   and the final for that one is meant to be pretty good
[04:43] <snuffy47> Billiard, I could not to one subfolder write without sudo because of a space in the folder name going to test :)
[04:43] <heyho> can we configure the OSD notify in Karmic yet?
[04:43] <Billiard> lol so you were typing the folder name incorrectly?
[04:43] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: with 9.10 on the other hand I have not been impressed with it at all.   overall  I find 9.04 much better
[04:43] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: Mandriva? ):  also, 9.04 <3
[04:43] <freaky[t]> webbb82, do u use openbox? why do u use it?
[04:44] <jzacsh> cdw32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[04:44] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: yeah Mandriva 2010 is meant to be pretty good, but when I tested teh RC it seemed to lack Ext4 hmm
[04:44] <datz_> Billiard: I can't find it.
[04:44] <napster> Hi all
[04:44] <heyho> i absolutely hate that notifications start at the top of the screen
[04:44] <YaST> what about best media player? that kinda plays all types of formats? Mplayer? :p
[04:44] <webbb82> im  not i was wondering if its worth testing
[04:44] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: What are Mandriva's plus-sides? Any particular features for gamers and coders like me?
[04:44] <scunizi> YaST: mplayer, vlc
[04:44] <jbuncher> dAlfa89_, sebsebseb : just to throw in a differing opinion, I find Karmic to be *much* better than Jaunty, having fixed the intel issues I was having, as well as having *much* better versions of Kile and Okular for my LaTeX-ing needs.
[04:45] <jzacsh> yast vlc. but i believe most applicatiosn can play pretty much anything given plugins
[04:45] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: a RC I should say I think there were like two.   anyway going back to Ext3 or Ext4 in  9.10 it doesn't seem to matter that much from my testing anyway,  they  both booted up about the same Ext3 or Ext4.   Well  the disk check will be slower in Ext3 sure the one after the 23 or so boots.
[04:45] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, now I have the decompression of Google Earth, and X fighting for the CPU equally!
[04:45] <Madpilot> YaST, install the various plugins in Multiverse, and totem (the default player) will run nearly anything...
[04:45] <paragonc> linuxguy2009: what te NVIDIA driver is looking for is the linux source headers
[04:45] <Billiard> datz_: i think its called fast-user-switch-applet
[04:45] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: ,but I didn't test that with Ext3 with 9.10
[04:45] <freaky[t]> webbb82, ah ok ;D
[04:45] <cdw32> jzacsh: yeah my window doesnt look like that
[04:45] <paragonc> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.27-15-server
[04:45] <jbuncher> greezmunkey, lol ok then.  Good luck with that?
[04:46] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well  you can run pretty much every program you can in Ubuntu with other distros such as Mandriva, Fedora, Debian,  etc
[04:46] <greezmunkey> jbuncher, It ran my cpu up to about 85% which is ok, I just want that process to finish.
[04:46] <datz_> Billiard: thanks, I'm not sure how to get it.
[04:46] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Mandriva has some pretty interesting stuff  by default,  it's control centre and such for example
[04:47] <Billiard> datz_: you have that package installed in the package manager?
[04:47] <nomopofomo> has anyone figured out how to get the acrobat pdf plugin to work with google chrome?
[04:47] <YaST> ok.. another question.. my laptop is a core 2 due  t8100 (2.10GHz) wich is the best kernel for it? I got the generic one...
[04:47] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: Control centre? Sounds funky..
[04:47] <wolf23> helpers, can anyone tell me about a good emulator for nintendo .nes games on karmic ? thanx
[04:47] <datz_> Billiard: I did a search in the package manager, that string didn't turn anything up
[04:47] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: I  haven't tried it out properly yet, but  I think it's time soon
[04:47] <Billiard> datz_: i think it doesnt like minuses
[04:47] <jzacsh> cdw32 you can also try here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[04:48] <Billiard> try just the words datz_ fast user switch applet
[04:48] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: Control Center even,  but I don't want to spell centre the American way
[04:48] <snuffy47> Billiard, Changed a subfolder from Torrent Downloading to TorrentDownload and it works LOL
[04:48] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: oh quite a few other distros out there as well that are worth trying in a vm at least
[04:48] <Billiard> snuffy47: i see, you were refering to the directory name incorrectly lol
[04:48] <jzacsh> cdw32: honestly you'll be better off just googling a little more on your own and coming here when you're stuck on something you've read. I mean at this point, I'm just googling for you. and finding these pages, but its not as valuable as you doing the searching, because you're actually sitting right at your 8.04 system and know what to look for
[04:49] <yangxiao> ubuntu default remote desktop client Vinagre is terribly slow! Are there any other candidates?
[04:49] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: well I don't need Karmic to fix any hardware :)  as for later versions of programs well ppa's or compile from source or whatever
[04:49] <cdw32> jzacsh: i will take that advice...i am sorry
[04:49] <scunizi> !vnc | yangxiao
[04:49] <dAlfa89_> sebsebseb: I see, I've tried Debian and Ubuntu, and have investigated Mandriva a couple of times, but Ubuntu is the only one friendly enough for me, I don't know enough to keep the others in check ):
[04:49] <extor> I'm having trouble recompiling the vbox driver, according to this error log is the problem within ubuntu somewhere? http://pastebin.ca/1673034
[04:49] <snuffy47> Billiard, thnx B
[04:49] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: and those Intel issues could have been fixed in Jauntey I expect  and with the fixes coming from the default repos, if  they didn't only provide security updates from them
[04:50] <Billiard> snuffy47: np
[04:50] <jzacsh> cdw32: no need to be sorry, Hope I helped. :) I learn lots by helping so, enjoy this channel.
[04:50] <datz_> Billiard: http://pastebin.com/m1a4c6f55
[04:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: however i am going to have to call it a night...
[04:50] <cdw32> jzacsh: i am trying to learn ubuntu, but it is difficult for me to grasp at times
[04:50] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, yeah, but I hate going outside the repos for things, seems to defeat the purpose unless you limit it to a very small number of apps (something like skype and such).  They could have been, and I mucked with the xorg and got them *pretty* much resolved, but it still wasn't good enough.  The main thing that killed Jaunty for me was the kile/okular situation and the lack of kde3 libs.
[04:50] <GSF1200S> anyone know the default font for e17? Trying to change the font to be a little bigger, but the same font
[04:50] <akyapt> i downloaded a video of the format wmv...em not able to watch it in ubuntu .....what should i do?
[04:51] <yangxiao> thanks, guys
[04:51] <sebsebseb> dAlfa89_: well I am a bit locked in to Ubuntu really after all this time, using since the second release in 2005,   unfortunatly it has been  going better in certain ways and worse in others since 8.04.
[04:51] <Blue1> akyapt: what are you using to try and play it?
[04:51] <jzacsh> cdw32: well, once you learn each peice of the system you get to keep it, so your time isn't wasted :)
[04:51] <Billiard> datz_: try installing ubuntu-desktop package
[04:51] <jzacsh> akyapt: try installing vlc via synaptic
[04:52] <akyapt> blue1 :movie player
[04:52] <Kris07> Hi, I'm having trouble installing Songbird. Is there anybody that can help?
[04:52] <ALT-F4> jbuncher, it's working with Camorama now. Could you recommend a good program that I can use to chat with Window users that are using yahoo instant messenger?
[04:52] <Blue1> akyapt: totem should be able to play that - is that what you are using?
[04:52] <akyapt> jzacsh:will movie player not work?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: latex  stuff I don't really know about that, but by the way there's a Kubuntu KDE 3  Remix CD for  jaunty  karmic and I think maybe 8.10 as well,  plus a ppa that can be installed
[04:52] <akyapt> blue1 :i tried but its not opening
[04:52] <jzacsh> akyapt it may with plugins  (or natively) - but I've never really given it a chance.
[04:52] <Blue1> akyapt: yeah plugins...
[04:52] <luis_> Hello guys i am giving invitations to lockerz, any one interested click here: http://www.wix.com/Luija1006/Lockerz-Invites-By-Luis-Javier
[04:53] <cdw32> jzacsh: thanks so mucj!
[04:53] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: KDE 3 ppa being for each version, not the same ppa for those three, or whatever
[04:53] <cdw32> Night all!
[04:53] <jzacsh> cdw32: good luck with your system :)
[04:53] <akyapt> blue1 :so wont movie player work?
[04:53] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I'm mostly a gnome user, but kile is the one kde program I use heavily, so I didn't want an entire remix or ppa for one program and such.  At any rate, everything is working well for me in Karmic, so all is good :)
[04:53] <Sincere> what is ppa?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> !kde3 |  jbuncher
[04:53] <Billiard> Kris07: whats the prob?
[04:53] <cdw32> jzacsh: i need a miracal
[04:54] <dAlfa89_> Back to 9.04 I come <3
[04:54] <datz_> Billiard: should the applet be added after installing ubuntu-desktop?
[04:54] <jbuncher> ALT-F4, glad to hear the camera is working.  For Yahoo Messenger with camera, I was aable to do this on older ubuntu installations using the kde program kopete, and it worked fairly well.   I really appreciate it, and I'll give kopete a try.
[04:54] <GSF1200S> anyone know how to integrate e17's theme into my apps?
[04:54] <td123> aperson: kill -9 will work
[04:54] <sebsebseb> Sincere: ppa's are basically mini repos for later versions of programs, but they are not fullly supported by Ubuntu,  so sometimes they might brake something
[04:55] <Billiard> datz_: i would think it should, but not sure, some people say its a very recent bug that its not in the repos correctly
[04:55] <akyapt> blue1:ill try...thanks
[04:55] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I just use xchat.  I'm trying to think of other kde apps I use, and I think kopete is the only one, in the rare cases I need to use a webcam with someone on yahoo.
[04:55] <aperson> td123, no, it doesn't
[04:55] <datz_> Billiard: ok
[04:55] <td123> aperson: is it a zombie?
[04:55] <Billiard> Kris07: wont as it?
[04:55] <Blue1> akyapt: i know that installs gstreamer but i think the wmv support as well I don't honestly remember...
[04:55] <aperson> td123, yes
[04:55] <td123> aperson: well then you can't kill it
[04:55] <kermit> so, if i click this 'upgrade' button, the world isnt going to end?
[04:55] <datz_> Billiard: it worked right after install, but I installed a bunch of software and it stopped working
[04:55] <td123> aperson: a zombie process won't take any memory up
[04:55] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: that annoys me to some extent how  most  Ubuntu users use Xchat,  when there are other rather good IRC clients  as well such as Konversation or IRSSI even after configuring
[04:56] <Billiard> Kris07: soryy, wont as in? it errors or goes somewher else or what?
[04:56] <aperson> td123, it's holding my cd drive shut
[04:56] <aperson> td123, it's vlc that won't die
[04:56] <akyapt> blue1:i already have ubuntu -restricted-extras
[04:56] <Billiard> datz_: idk, maybe it will be fixed after some updates
[04:56] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, why does it annoy you?  I find xchat to be pretty good.  I like it better than gnome-xchat or xchat-gnome or whatever it's called.
[04:56] <jzacsh> aperson: try using a paper-clip to open the cd drive (the tiny little hole in the drive). actually, mayb ethat's a bad idea - if the drive's spinning
[04:56] <kermit> whats the current kernel version with karmic?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: most Ubuntu users that use  the IRC I should say.  well yeah  it's meant to be better than that one, but  try some other clients :)
[04:57] <aperson> jzacsh, it is spinning
[04:57] <aperson> activity light is on too
[04:57] <jzacsh> aperson: was someone just suggesting you kill vlc?
[04:57] <anarcap> My xorg.config is empty - is this normal. I'm using whatever generic drivers ubuntu uses by default.
[04:57] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: oh yeah we are off topic really, but  no  o  p s  or  whatever telling us off
[04:57] <datz_> Billiard: ok, I guess I'll look for it after some updates, maybe I shouldn't have deleted it
[04:57] <sebsebseb> !irc | jbuncher
[04:57] <Spartak> #gultij
[04:57] <td123> aperson: just restart it, or google on tips about how to deal with zombie processes
[04:58] <Spartak> Join #gultij
[04:58] <td123> anyone know when 10.04 alpha 1 will come out
[04:58] <jzacsh> aperson did you type something like "ps -au<uname> | grep -i vlc" and then sudo kill its number? what happened when you tried?
[04:58] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, well then I'll turn it into a support question.  I'm looking for a better client than xchat, but don't want a kde one.  What would you suggest and why?
[04:58] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: irssi then and  people tend to use that with a program called screen
[04:59] <kg> :-)Thank you Billiard, I found the command I needed to unmount it on-line in the Ubuntu Forums.
[04:59] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, now I just need the "why" :)
[04:59] <aperson> jzacsh, I pgrep'd it and I've tried sudo kill -9
[04:59] <Blue1> hmm guess he left...
[04:59] <Billiard> kg: ok
[04:59] <jzacsh> aperson: I'm assuming you've rebooted?
[04:59] <td123> aperson: kill -9 doesn't gaurentee killing a zombie
[04:59] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: why, becasue that's all quite popular well with  experienced  Desktop Linux users,  and it runs in the shell (terminal, konsole if you like even) and so that's good,  and after customizing it it can do a lot
[04:59] <aperson> I'd like to keep my uptime, tyvm :)
[04:59] <greezmunkey> aperson, you can't kill the dead
[05:00] <sjd> I am using Karmic Koala. Upgraded from Jaunty. Now, I need to Install windows too as dual boot. how can I do this? I need grub to be the bootloader. please help.
[05:00] <aperson> greezmunkey, I'm starting to see this
[05:00] <td123> But killing them is not possible as the zombies are dead already.
[05:00] <kermit> whats the current kernel version with karmic?  (someone type uname -a please)
[05:00] <jzacsh> aperson what about logging out? and in? (and yes, what - td123 said - are you sure that's how to kill it? I've never used "9")
[05:00] <aperson> it doesn't have a parent process either
[05:01] <jbuncher> sebsebseb, I'll keep that in mind.  I don't really want to run IRC in a terminal, but that could definitely come in handy if X gets hosed.  I'll be staying away from Konversation, if only because I can't stand the "K" naming in KDE.
[05:01] <aperson> jzacsh, I'm pretty sure I know how to work kill :)
[05:01] <anarcap> hello?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> jbuncher: and your not exactly a newbie if you  use IRSSI,  and I like to joke about xchat sometimes, because most of the new  Ubuntu users that use IRC use it  as well as  a lot of more experienced ones.   anyway as a joke I like to sometimes call it noobchat for this very reason
[05:01] <scunizi> sjd: do you need dual boot for games or something else.. could you get away with a vm of windows?
[05:01] <Arsin> I can't open my EXT3 partition on my flash drive, I get this http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/d4702c1d7
[05:01] <aperson> I just happen to have a process that is keeping my cd drive shut as vlc tried to read a bad cd
[05:01] <jbuncher> sjd, generally, you should install windows first.   Once the process that spawned is stops, the zombie will "die" as well. I always have one on my system. I tracked it down to a process that gets started on boot. It's never been a problem.
[05:02] <sjd> jbuncher: not for games. i dont use win but my dad.
[05:02] <aperson> greezmunkey, there is no parent to this
[05:02] <sjd> jbuncher: but karmic uses grub 2 right?
[05:02] <greezmunkey> aperson, what is it?
[05:02] <aperson> greezmunkey, vlc is tried to read a bad cd and is stuck reading it
[05:03] <jbuncher> sjd, fresh installs of karmic use grub 2, if you upgraded from jaunty it's still using grub-legacy, which is why I recommended using a jaunty cd to reinstall the bootloader.
[05:03] <greezmunkey> aperson, does it interfere with your use of the system?
[05:03] <pvvni> What's /dev/console used for?
[05:03] <anarcap> My xorg.conf is empty. Is that normal? I'm using the generic/default drivers.
[05:03] <sjd> jbuncher: okay. let me give a try. how do I install the grub from the Jaunty live?
[05:03] <jbuncher> Arsin, try running an fsck on the flash drive when it is unmounted
[05:03] <Billiard> anarcap: using karmic?
[05:03] <geartrooper> hello, I suddenly lost the ability to right-click and add folders on my desktop
[05:04] <anarcap> Billiard: Sorry, yes. Karmic.
[05:04] <aperson> greezmunkey, well, as I can't open my drive, I'd say yes
[05:04] <Billiard> anarcap: thats fine then
[05:04] <greezmunkey> aperson, hmmm vlc, huh.
[05:04] <jzacsh> anarcap did you uninstall anything lately?
[05:04] <jzacsh> anarcap in example: an ubuntu-desktop package, or gnome-desktop package?
[05:04] <sjd> jbuncher: ?
[05:05] <aperson> greezmunkey, yeppers, is there a way to force eject a drive?  I man'd eject and it doesn't seem to have the capability
[05:05] <anarcap> I'm just trying to figure out why I'm getting tearing in flash (hulu, youtube, etc) playback, and in Compiz effects. (DVD/Video plays fine)
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM>  i got win7 installed then i instaled ubuntu and everythng works nice. not i want to clone the drive to a smaller one and i am using ghost to clone the whole drive. it is resizing my win7 patrion smaller but its all good as it was only using 20% of it.
[05:05] <Ascavasaion> I still cannot access shares on my Linux box from the windows box.  Network neighbourhood sees the computer but when I try to access the computer it says "The computer or sharename could not be found".  When I click Start>Run>computername it says the "network name cannot be found", the same goes for if I use Start>Run> \\<IP_ADDRESS>\
[05:05] <anarcap> jzacsh - I've been running ubuntu 9.10 for like a week. I may have made some video changes...let me check
[05:05] <ZaNeIuM> after the cone will i need to run the grub boot loader manualy or should it just work?
[05:05] <jzacsh> aperson try the paper-clip in the pin-hole
[05:06] <aperson> jzacsh, the drive *is spinning* but I guess I can try since the disc is bad anyways
[05:06] <jbuncher> sjd, I'm having trouble finding the exact link, but google for "reinstall grub after installing windows" or something similar.  Just make sure you get one that's grub 1, and not grub 2.
[05:06] <aperson> jzacsh, hah, success!
[05:06] <sjd> jbuncher: okay.
[05:07] <jzacsh> aperson now see if you can kill vlc (just curious)
[05:07] <aperson> jzacsh, no dice
[05:07] <jzacsh> aperson, is it indeed a bad disc?
[05:07] <greezmunkey> aperson, so when you press the button nothing happens?
[05:07] <aperson> greezmunkey, nope, but a small screwdriver did the trick :)
[05:07] <sjd> jbuncher:  hope I got it http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[05:07] <aperson> jzacsh, I'd say after I just broke it in half it is
[05:08] <jzacsh> aperson, sounds like you got revenge. congratulations
[05:08] <aperson> thanks greezmunkey and jzacsh
[05:08] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: The inferior Samba is still troubling me.
[05:09] <jbuncher> sjd, yeah, I think that will work.  You'll have to follow the instructions about adding the windows entry that they give there, as well.
[05:09] <greezmunkey> aperson, you can try this if it happens again: umount -f /dev/"yourCDdrive"
[05:09] <sjd> jbuncher: sure :) thank you!
[05:09] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, did you dig into the permissions side?
[05:09] <Nautilus> Hi again. I'm booted to ubuntu and have a second (ext3) drive hooked up... how do I access it? I did yesterday, either it was in the Places list or clicked around until it did show up there. Not seeing it now though
[05:09] <aperson> greezmunkey, thanks, after ejecting both of my drives, nautilus still has both them listed as having discs in them
[05:10] <aperson> greezmunkey, so I think I'll have to unmount them myself
[05:10] <jbuncher> sjd, hang on, are your windows and linux installs on the same hard drive, or different drives?
[05:10] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: I went ito nautiuls and gave read and write permissions to everynoe.
[05:10] <dno> Hello all!
[05:10] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus
[05:10] <greezmunkey> aperson, try to respawn (kill -HUP) Nautilus, someone here should be able to help with that.
[05:10] <Nautilus> yes? ;)
[05:10] <sjd> jbuncher: different drives. I already had windows. since it sucks, I have to re install. :)
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus: Nothing... made a typo and was correcting it.
[05:11] <sjd> jbuncher: but dad is trying hard to switch to GNU/Linux, but takes time!
[05:11] <jbuncher> sjd, can you be more specific about how you have the drives partitioned and which one boots by default and such?
[05:11] <dno> Can some one tell me why I don't have permission to this even with sudo?
[05:11] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: just funning
[05:11] <anarcap> jzacsh - I've had the tearing problem with flash since the day I installed ubuntu. I've just been putting up with it until now
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> Nautilus: Oh, hehe
[05:11] <jonz> dno - you don't have permission to what?
[05:11] <dAlfa89_> Nautilus: Wow, you must get a LOT of highlighted messages, eh? :D
[05:11] <Ascavasaion> dAlfa89_: BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[05:11] <Nautilus> yea, i prefer when it's typo'd, lol
[05:12] <dno> oops help to put the command: $ sudo echo 1 > /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI  PERMISSION DENIED
[05:12] <greezmunkey> Ascavasaion, hold a bit, I'll set one up real quick an dtest it to see where you may be going wrong...
[05:12] <sjd> jbuncher: sure. I have two 80 GB HDD. Windows is in the first partition  of the first HDD and Ubuntu is in the first partition of the Second HDD :)
[05:12] <Ascavasaion> greezmunkey: Um.. okay.
[05:12] <dAlfa89_> Nautilus: Would you rather us call it Nortylas? :D
[05:12] <lstarnes> dno: echo 1 | sudo tee /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI
[05:12] <jbuncher> sjd, where is grub?
[05:12] <bastid_raZor> dno: echo 1 > sudo tee /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI
[05:12] <geartrooper> hello, I suddenly lost the ability to right-click and add folders on my desktop
[05:12] <dno> jonz:  I am having a heck of a time mounting my nas in 9.10
[05:12] <Ascavasaion> dAlfa89_: Or maybe NaughtyLass :)
[05:12] <lstarnes> bastid_raZor: you want a |, not a >
[05:13] <sjd> jbuncher: first hdd, first partition.
[05:13] <Nautilus> dAlfa89_: how about nauti-less
[05:13] <aperson> now to figure out why blank discs don't have eject in the context menu!
[05:13] <bastid_raZor> lstarnes: correct. my mistake
[05:13] <aperson> and why the eject button next to them in nautilus does nothing
[05:13] <Nautilus> Ascavasaion: good one
[05:13] <sjd> jbuncher: im not sure, How can I confirm that?
[05:13] <jbuncher> sjd, so grub is installed to the MBR of the windows drive, and when you boot ubuntu the "ubuntu" drive shows up as /dev/sdb or /dev/hdb?
[05:14] <jonz> dno sorry, i don't have experience w/nas's.
[05:14] <Ascavasaion> jbuncher: I think hd = ATA, and sd=SATA... not sure though.
[05:14] <sjd> jbuncher: exactly, sdb2
[05:14] <anarcap> jzacsh :: I used the guide here (http://guvnr.com/pc/ubuntu-top-software/) in order to configure a lot of packages, etc. after I installed ubuntu 9.10. I installed the Flash 10 driver from Adobe.
[05:14] <Nautilus> so, how do I see my other ext3 drive? I dont recall mounting it yesterday when I got it to go, but maybe something I clicked on did that for me.
[05:14] <gorlak_> anyone found a workaround to the issue of 9.10 5+minute boot time and sometimes failure of the video (being dumped at the cmd prompt)
[05:15] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, depends on the version of ubuntu he's running, that distinction was done away with so that everything is /dev/sdx in later versions.
[05:15] <dAlfa89_> Okay ladies, Wubi is still giving me hassle on boot, same thing as with Karmic: Background shows; no GDM; No dropping to command-line  ):
[05:15] <dAlfa89_> 9.04 and 9.10 go through the same thing
[05:15] <Ascavasaion> jbuncher: Okies, thanks.
[05:15] <dno> jonz: Thanks
[05:15] <Madpilot> Ascavasaion, the hd/sd thing went away at least a couple of Ubuntu releases ago
[05:16] <jbuncher> sjd, ok then.  I was curious if windows was on the "first" drive as the motherboard saw it, as windows gets angry when it's not, and you may have had to mess around with the "map" commands in the windows grub entry.  That doesn't seem to be the case though.
[05:16] <dno> Does anyone know how to mount a nas?
[05:16] <jonz> anarcap i'm not familiar with that article. does it have you remove anything?
[05:16] <anarcap> My ATI x1650 works great (2d, 3d) except for tearing in flash playback and compiz effects like wobbly windows and cube.
[05:16] <anarcap> jonz - no. I didn't actually remove anything. I just installed stuff.
[05:17] <dno> or should I say trouble shoot the correct permissions?
[05:17] <scottyg> hey what are some cool new apps for ubuntu?
[05:17] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, and I think that happened at the kernel level, so it's not ubuntu-specific.  I think it happened after hardy, though I'm not sure.
[05:17] <jbuncher> Ascavasaion, there was a whole new driver stack at one point.
[05:18] <jordanl> i came back to my computer and it seems like it's frozen (the screen is black, the keyboard/mouse unresponsive, etc.) but I can ssh into it from another computer. does anyone know if i can recover my session? (i'm ssh'd into it remotely right now)
[05:18] <sjd> jbuncher: now lets put it this way: I have windows on the first hdd. called sda1. ubuntu on hdd2 sdb2. grub in sda1. now Im going to format sda1 and reinstall windows. then boot up from a jaunty live and use sudo grub to fix grub. okay?
[05:19] <jbuncher> sjd, that sounds good.  Though I don't think you have grub installed to /dev/sda1, but rather the Master Boot Record (MBR) of /dev/sda .  It *is* possible to install grub to a partition, though that's not normally done unless you're chainloading and such from another bootloader.
[05:19] <jonz> scottyg: I found an awesome article in the ubuntu forums the other day: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=382137&highlight=entity+relationship+diagram&page=2
[05:19] <anarcap> Should I be using the fglrx drivers for my x1650 radeon card?
[05:19] <jonz> scottyg: I found a ton of awesome apps listed there
[05:19] <sjd> jbuncher: i guess so. but the above steps should go fine right?
[05:20] <napster> !crunchbang
[05:21] <jbuncher> sjd, yeah, they should work.
[05:21] <sjd> jbuncher: thanks bro! :)
[05:21] <jbuncher> sjd, no problem
[05:22] <jonz> jordanl: try running top
[05:22] <yast> is there anyway to use fluxbox+compiz ? xD
[05:22] <jga23> anybody know why a mount (via smbmount in terminal) wouldn't show any files/directories using ls, but I can cd into directories?
[05:22] <yast> or compiz only works with gnome and kde?
[05:22] <anarcap> napster :: I tried #crunchbang for a few days. I really liked it.
[05:23] <napster> anarcap: And what is openbox...?
[05:23] <napster> in crunchbang
[05:23] <jbuncher> yast, that's an interesting question.  Is fluxbox actually a "desktop environment" like GNOME or KDE, or is it just a window manager with a few extra pieces?
[05:23] <CarlFK> jga23: directory rights - I think you have exec but not read.
[05:23] <yast> jbuncher: itts like gnome and kde
[05:24] <yast> alot neater tho
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> yast, no fluxbox+compiz i'm affraid - they are both the same thing Windows Managers
[05:24] <yast> that sucks
[05:24] <CarlFK> can someone pastebin a grub.cfg that has a windows boot?
[05:24] <yast> fluxbox+compiz would rock
[05:24] <yast> what about fluxbox+xgl ?
[05:25] <yast> its nearly the same ting tho
[05:25] <jga23> CarlFK: how can I change the directory rights?
[05:25] <yast> thing*