[15:01] <Peter_____> Hello
[15:02] <Peter_____> Have a question
[15:02] <Peter_____> Problem with crashed Ubunt


[01:27] <skellat> pleia2 knome Hopefully the last merge on xubuntu-docs prior to Beta Freeze though we do need the package rebuilt and uploaded ASAP prior to Beta Freeze: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/155644
[01:31] <knome> skellat, approved and merged
[01:34] <skellat> :-)
[01:34] <skellat> Will we be able to get a new version of the package uploaded in time for the freeze Thursday?
[01:35] <knome> i hope so.
[01:36] <knome> micahg, mr_pouit: can either of you upload a new version of the xubuntu-docs package before the B2F?
[01:36] <skellat> Okay
[01:39] <knome> http://open.knome.fi/2013/03/27/making-making-beautiful-beautiful/
[09:55] <bluesabre> MenuLibre is now fully translatable.  http://www.smdavis.us/2013/03/27/menulibre-translations-and-13-04-support/
[09:56] <bluesabre> In case any translators around here want something to do ;)
[09:57] <ochosi> awesome
[15:41] <skellat> https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.raring/+merge/155753
[16:49] <Unit193> skellat: That won't work, it depends on python-qt4.
[17:00] <skellat> Crap
[17:01] <skellat> Unit193: Removed the python-qt4 dependency in the latest revision
[17:04] <pleia2> we still use docbook, right?
[17:04] <knome> yes.
[17:04] <knome> how so?
[17:04] <knome> are you by any chance trying to get the pkg uploaded? :P
[17:04] <pleia2> hah, no
[17:04] <knome> you should
[17:04]  * knome hides
[17:06]  * skellat notes the following pending matters before Thursday freeze: Rebuild and upload of xubuntu-docs, Potential merge here that would then require rebuild and upload of xubuntu-meta: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.raring/+merge/155753 , and AOB
[18:25] <Unit193> skellat: Heh, you can add me for review, but I don't have any commit powers for the seed.


[06:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- paelzer, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/4774 No packages are being considered! If you are preparing sources manually, please upload them to the PPA now
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[01:01] <bkerensa> Bug #949277
[01:05] <bkerensa> cweber10:  Awesome
[02:01] <bkerensa> =o
[02:35] <bkerensa> hi nathwill
[02:35] <bkerensa> hi Odysimus
[03:24] <nathwill> hi bkerensa
[03:24] <nathwill> brb, i got me some updates :)
[03:25] <nathwill> aaand i'm back
[03:26] <nathwill> anybody else notice that the ambiance theme got slicker in the last couple days?
[04:51] <TRAVISg> Hello all
[05:01] <nathwill> hi TRAVISg
[05:02] <nathwill> how's it goin?
[08:19] <bkerensa> m
[08:42] <bkerensa> #startmeeting
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[08:45] <nibalizer> long meeting
[08:45] <blkperl> thats what i was thinking
[08:53] <bkerensa> you guys watch this channel? ;p
[08:53] <bkerensa> blkperl: I was trying to remember the meeting log url ;)
[08:54] <bkerensa> Have to send team reports to the powers in charge
[08:57] <nibalizer> bkerensa: gogoubuntupower
[08:57] <bkerensa> nibalizer: something like that
[15:17] <bkerensa> tgm4883: : can I pm?
[15:26] <tgm4883> bkerensa, sure
[15:26] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Oh I was just going to ask if you had to rent a car when you went to UDS?
[15:27] <tgm4883> bkerensa, nope
[15:27] <bkerensa> I just got a e-mail from Canonical today
[15:27] <bkerensa> ;0
[15:27] <tgm4883> yea, I wouldn't bother renting a car. Did you get sponsored?
[15:27] <bkerensa> tgm4883: Yeah I'm sponsored and I just sent a e-mail to the travel agency
[15:28] <tgm4883> Sweet
[15:28] <bkerensa> ikr
[15:28] <bkerensa> :D
[15:28] <tgm4883> So yea, they reimburse you for travel expenses (in my case, a checked bag and transportation to/from the airport to the hotel)
[15:30] <bkerensa> tgm4883: oh for the travel when you get there? But the plane and hotel they pay for in advance yes?
[15:30] <tgm4883> yep
[15:30] <bkerensa> oh ok :P
[15:30] <bkerensa> so long as I dont have to pony up over a grand to go to Oakland in two months time
[15:30] <tgm4883> nah, I had to do about 125
[15:31] <bkerensa> tgm4883: thats nothing big
[15:31] <bkerensa> :D
[15:31] <tgm4883> yea not too bad
[15:31] <bkerensa> tgm4883: UDS has breakfast and lunch or no? not sure how they run their conf compared to others
[15:31] <bkerensa> ;p
[16:42] <tgm4883> bkerensa, sorry, had to go to work
[16:42] <tgm4883> yes they provide breakfast and lunch
[16:42] <tgm4883> and a per diem for dinner
[23:10] <c_smith> hyello
[23:22] <c_smith> bkerensa, I'm installing GIMP to prepare for making that logo, would you Email me the specs you wanted to aim for?


[00:56] <wgrant> asac: That build display bug is fixed on prod now. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/indicator-transfer/0.1+14.10.20140814-0ubuntu1
[02:04] <imgbot> [03:04] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [03:44] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [04:14] <imgbot> [07:15] <Saviq> trainguards, I can has reconfigure in silo 2 please (added qtmir-gles twin)
[07:21] <Saviq> trainguards, hmm looking at rtm silo 3, looks like the schemas got published through another silo, so they should be dropped from that silo?
[08:05] <sil2100> Mirv: hey! Do you know how CI works for core-app merges?
[08:05] <sil2100> Mirv: I forwarded an e-mail from elopio_ to you
[08:06]  * sil2100 hopes Mirv has some experience with it since he has power to build clicks
[08:12] <Saviq> sil2100, hey, can you please reconfigure silo 2 for me (added qtmir-gles twin)
[08:13] <sil2100> Saviq: sure
[08:13] <Saviq> sil2100, also, the schemas in rtm silo 3 are older than already in rtm, feels like should be dropped from the siloi
[08:13] <Saviq> -i
[08:13] <sil2100> Saviq: thanks for noticing :) Let me double check that and drop it
[08:14] <sil2100> Saviq: reconfigured
[08:15] <sil2100> Yeah, I think we had a separate landing for gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas earlier
[08:17] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. you only generate the changes files for krillin ubuntu-rtm images, right?
[08:17] <sil2100> Or for mako/flo/manta ones as well?
[08:17] <ogra_> sil2100, i generate the chnages file for the rootfs :)
[08:18] <ogra_> (all arches use the same one)
[08:18] <sil2100> ogra_: ah, right, but you currently bind them later to krillin build numbers only, right?
[08:18] <ogra_> but i trigger (and finish) by krillin builds
[08:19] <ogra_> (i need to bind the watcher to one image)
[08:19] <sil2100> ev: thanks!
[08:19] <ev> sure thing
[08:19] <asac> nice one wgrant! thx
[08:20] <Mirv> sil2100: ok I'll take a look. I don't have any specific info, but I may find the jobs and parameters and can possibly try some changes
[08:21] <tvoss> hmmm, is 218 known to have issues booting?
[08:21] <Saviq> robru's very musical recently
[08:21] <Mirv> Saviq: yes he is :)
[08:21] <ogra_> heh
[08:21] <Saviq> tvoss, just flashed 218 on mako, all good
[08:22] <ogra_> tvoss, dosent look like it has issues on the dashboard http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/utopic/touch/
[08:22] <tvoss> Saviq, ogra_ reflashing :)
[08:22] <ogra_> tvoss, do you have many click packages installed ? apparmor profile generation can take up to 5-10 min
[08:22] <tvoss> ogra_, nope, not really
[08:23] <tvoss> ogra_, I thought we would do the profile generation server side?
[08:23] <ogra_> (or if you are crazy like popey and install all of them even way longer i heard)
[08:23] <ogra_> tvoss, for all preinstalled clicks thats true
[08:24] <ogra_> tvoss, for all later installed clicks they all get fully re-generated every time you get a full image update (vs a diff)
[08:24] <ogra_> that takes ages and the system sitzts on the vendor logo while that happens
[08:31] <ogra_> sil2100, my firefox acts up ... looks like i'll be late
[08:34] <Mirv> psivaa: so here too https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/reminders-app/workaround1363604-add_sleep/+merge/232912
[08:38] <Saviq> davmor2, do you know if anyone's looking at rtm silo 3? (/we got another unity8 release incoming, might want to merge?)
[08:38] <davmor2> Saviq: no I think brendand was just telling me about it
[08:39] <Saviq> ok /me hijacks
[08:41] <Mirv> psivaa: (I can see the 'Setting up reminders-app-autopilot (0.4+bzr182ppa4~utopicbzr172utopic0)' there in the logs)
[08:41] <Saviq> sil2100, soo, can we do multiple sync: in an rtm silo or is that a case where we'll need your manual intervention? (rtm silo 3 has unity8 that I want to release real soon, testing now)
[08:41] <Saviq> release *again*
[08:42] <Saviq> so we'd need utopic silo 2 → rtm silo 3 while keeping ubuntu-system-settings in there
[08:42] <Mirv> Saviq: I'd guess manual, but we're in a meeting right now, let's look at it in 20mins
[08:42] <Saviq> Mirv, k thanks
[08:43] <brendand> Saviq, tested by ToyKeeper, she says it fails - https://trello.com/c/9B6QLvDd/37-rtm-landing-003-mterry-unity8-ubuntu-system-settings-gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas
[08:43] <Saviq> brendand, ough, thanks
[08:43] <brendand> Saviq, not sure if mterry told you
[08:44] <Saviq> brendand, he was out yesterday
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, yeah. it's probably a good idea to get your name in the landers list if you care about the state of a silo
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, otherwise we don't know to ping you
[08:44] <brendand> Saviq, it will be even more important as we automate some of this
[08:45] <Saviq> brendand, yeah, sure
[08:48]  * Saviq thinks we should release the unity8 changes that didn't fail QA
[08:49]  * sergiusens always likes to see what's new in unity8
[08:50] <brendand> popey, i'll take a look at one of the apps - might ping you later for some extra info
[09:03] <popey> brendand: thanks. I'd appreciate the help on this as it's somewhat demoralising for the core apps guys being unable to land their work.
[09:08] <brendand> popey, as long as people lay off requesting silos i should be able to
[09:12] <Mirv> Saviq: yeah I'll handle it manually. so, qtmir + qtmir-gles + unity8 from https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-002/+packages to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu-rtm/landing-003/+packages ?
[09:12] <Saviq> Mirv, no, actually
[09:12] <Saviq> Mirv, because the other silo failed QA, let's just sync from 2 please
[09:13] <Saviq> Mirv, overriding unity8
[09:13] <brendand> popey, i'll look at weather-app first
[09:13] <Saviq> Mirv, line 53
[09:13] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, ok
[09:14] <Mirv> right
[09:14] <Mirv> Saviq: so what happens to rtm-003 then?
[09:15] <Saviq> Mirv, we'll have to wait for mterry, I put it to tested: no already
[09:15] <Mirv> okie
[09:23] <Saviq> Mirv, hmm, sync does not do srccopy after all? ~rtm is added always?
[09:25] <popey> sil2100:  did you speak to Laney about bug 1363314 ?
[09:28] <Saviq> popey, apparently we got more like that bug #1364258
[09:29] <popey> oof
[09:30] <Saviq> looks like we missed a rebuild or something
[09:32] <Saviq> unless stuff linked against both gst 1.0 and 0.10 is ifne
[09:32] <Saviq> fine
[09:37] <Mirv> Saviq: yes, the sil's sync copy implements changing of the version numbers. the way I did it earlier (copy-package from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools) did srccopy.
[09:38] <Saviq> Mirv, ktx
[09:46] <ogra_> sil2100, FYI the -meta package always needs to be copied directly into rtm, not into proposed because it wont fulfill the desktop-next requirements of the seed
[09:51] <ogra_> sil2100, oh, and we should probably kick an image at some point to get the serbian keyboard in the meta adds ...
[10:04] <sergiusens> sil2100: spreadsheet is all wonky on line 52
[10:04] <sergiusens> sil2100: I want to set testing to yes for http://people.canonical.com/~platform/citrain_dashboard/#?distro=ubuntu&q=landing-014
[10:07] <Mirv> sergiusens: does not seem wonky to me. what image you used for testing?
[10:07] <Mirv> landing-014 is line 50 though
[10:07] <Mirv> sometimes the spreadsheet focusing etc goes wonky for me and I need to reload the page
[10:17] <psivaa> popey: regarding the weather-app failures here: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-weather-app/72/consoleText, i dont see anything else impacting apart from the MP itself. the installed packages are almost identical with another passing MP
[10:21] <sil2100> hmmm
[10:21] <sil2100> brendand: are you busy with QA sign-off right now?
[10:21] <sergiusens> Mirv: no image, it's ubuntu-device-flash
[10:21] <sil2100> popey: experimenting with something before doing a re-poke
[10:21] <sil2100> ogra_: good to know :| Did the meta get uploaded directly now, properly?
[10:22] <sergiusens> Mirv: I don't know why my name is on so many of those landings :-P
[10:22] <ogra_> sil2100, yep
[10:22]  * sergiusens restarts browser
[10:22] <ogra_> hmpf ...
[10:22] <brendand> sil2100, no but i might be soon
[10:22]  * ogra_ doesnt understand the push service ...
[10:22] <sil2100> jibel: hey! Are the SIM pin-unlock problems gone now?
[10:22] <sil2100> jibel: since we reverted ofono
[10:22] <Mirv> sergiusens: oh, yes, I read that it's desktop only, and still asked... silly me
[10:22] <jibel> sil2100, it's fixed on #11
[10:22] <sil2100> Good to know
[10:23] <ogra_> well, in #10
[10:23] <ogra_> :)
[10:23] <sil2100> Need to poke mandel about that
[10:23] <ogra_> 11 only had a youtube scope update
[10:23] <ogra_> sil2100, about ofono ?
[10:23] <sil2100> Yeah, not sure if he's 100% aware we reverted his landing
[10:23] <ogra_> thats not mandel ... you want tony or abeato
[10:23] <sil2100> Well, he was the lander there
[10:23] <ogra_> ah
[10:24] <sil2100> Owner: mandel awe
[10:24] <sil2100> ;)
[10:24] <ogra_> right, but mandel only did the paperwork part i guess
[10:24] <ogra_> (since awe isnt a lander)
[10:24]  * sergiusens was added to lander to many things on an fyi basis
[10:25] <sergiusens> ogra_: ^ that's password setup
[10:25] <ogra_> sergiusens, i bet tony as well
[10:25]  * ogra_ hugs sergiusens
[10:25] <sergiusens> just need to android side merged by rsalveti eventually
[10:25] <ogra_> yeah
[10:25] <ogra_> once he calmed down over the message phrasing :P
[10:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: it's just like --developer-mode, using it, just prints a warning in recovery if not understood, we can at least ask plars to start adding it
[10:26] <ogra_> sergiusens, do you know if there is a freely usable way to pop up a push notification without relaing to an app ?
[10:26] <ogra_> *relating
[10:26] <sergiusens> ogra_: no, there isn't
[10:26] <ogra_> dang
[10:27] <sergiusens> ogra_: it needs a push helper by design
[10:27] <ogra_> i tried just abusing system-settings ... but seems whatever i do it will just trigger the predefined "there is a system update" message
[10:27] <sergiusens> ogra_: you can however craft everything yourself through the messaging menu (has an api) or an osd whch is just dbus
[10:27] <ogra_> sergiusens, right, i was trying to follow http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/platform/guides/push-notifications-server-guide/
[10:28] <sergiusens> ogra_: oh, that's a complicated thing :P
[10:28] <ogra_> yeah
[10:28]  * ogra_ just wants a hourly cronjob doing df on /home ... that pops up a message if we hit 95% filling
[10:29] <jibel> ogra_, I know but I upgraded from 9 to 11
[10:29] <ogra_> jibel, ;)
[10:32] <sergiusens> ogra_: use system settings as a push helper perhaps?
[10:32] <ogra_> thats what i was trying
[10:33] <ogra_> but i only get it to pop up "update available" all the time
[10:33] <ogra_> lets move to #ubuntu-touch :)
[10:40] <sil2100> brendand: sooo... once you're done, could you try reverting some packages and checking the video codecs issue?
[10:40] <sil2100> I'll provide a list with links
[10:40] <sil2100> brendand: since we didn't try reverting the gst plugins for that to confirm, right?
[10:42] <brendand> sil2100, ok
[10:43] <brendand> sil2100, i tried with all the RTM images and it was still happening so must have been there for longer than i thought
[10:58] <Mirv> tvoss: are there any updates or branches to link to bug #1359866?
[11:01] <Mirv> Saviq: regarding bug #1363314, we used to have the qtmultimedia-touch fork with GSt 1.0 support, which I hoped would be pushed to upstream, but then it kind of died when the general thought was that media-hub will provide the media playback needed
[11:02] <Saviq> Mirv, right, so it's only a non-android problem is it?
[11:02] <Saviq> "only" meaning unity8 desktop session is broken, too... and apps under X11... :/
[11:03] <Mirv> Saviq: yes, I'm just uncertain if it's something new or if people have only now started trying those on desktop. there's bug #1363653 too which might be related to the recent GStreamer 1.4.0 update.
[11:03] <sil2100> Mirv, Saviq: we'll be trying to revert the gst bad plugins and see if it's still broken
[11:03] <Mirv> Saviq: unity8 desktop also needs https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/kubuntu-packaging/qtchooser_qmlscene_fallback/+merge/230595
[11:04] <sil2100> Mirv, Saviq: but that's on a phone device
[11:04] <Mirv> (for launching apps from unity8)
[11:04] <Saviq> Mirv, it's new, unity8 doesn't start, broke our development
[11:04] <Mirv> Saviq: oh, ok then.
[11:05] <Mirv> from Qt side things have been the same from June though
[11:05]  * sil2100 really wonders if gst could be at fault here
[11:09] <sil2100> brendand: just give me a sign once you'll have that moment :)
[11:10] <brendand> sil2100, yeah send me the links anytime
[11:10] <sil2100> brendand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214546/
[11:10] <sil2100> brendand: let's see if those work, I hope nothing started explicitly dep on those...
[11:10] <sil2100> Anyway, tell me in case it won't install cleanly
[11:12] <brendand> sil2100, no it's fine
[11:35] <ogra_> sil2100, did you ping Laney already about the gstreame drm2 stuff ?
[11:37] <sil2100> ogra_: not yet, wanted to confirm something
[11:38] <sil2100> brendand: how is it? Does it fix the problem with playback?
[11:39] <brendand> sil2100, doesn't look like it
[11:40] <sil2100> hmmm
[11:40] <ogra_> brendand, sil2100, hmm, i have an lxc-android-config landing (that janimo` just uploaded directly into ubuntu) ... it only adds empty files could i get signoff for just copying it from landing and QA teams ? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/183780901/lxc-android-config_0.193_0.194.diff.gz
[11:40] <janimo`> ogra_, so what exactly do I need to do to get lxc-android-config 0.194 into utopic and then in rtm?
[11:40] <janimo`> ah, nice :)
[11:40] <janimo`> ogra_, I should have uploaded elsewhere?
[11:41] <ogra_> janimo`, well, lxc-android-config is speacial (and very hard to test)
[11:41] <ogra_> janimo`, usually you would have requested a silo for the ubuntu landing forst though
[11:41] <sil2100> ogra_: looks fine for me, what do you think brendand ^ ? I think we can get this through without QA signoff and train
[11:42] <janimo`> ogra_, ah so no more auto-gating anything that goes into utopic via a dput? I though there's some checking before it is let in, but clientside I do the same thing as before, i.e. do not care much
[11:42] <ogra_> janimo`, that you then test yourself ... once thats through you request a silo for rtm where this gets copied into ... which then you and QA test again against the rtm image
[11:42] <brendand> janimo`, so it doesn't do anything?
[11:43] <janimo`> brendand, no, they are placeholder files which are ignored, unless the android image replaces them with some apparmor rules via bind-mounting at boot time
[11:43] <ogra_> brendand, it only adds some empty placeholder files
[11:43] <janimo`> brendand, placeholders like some other files in that package (udev rules)
[11:44] <ogra_> yeah, they are in fact mountpoints the android tarball can use to ship hw specific configs
[11:44] <ogra_> for which it uses bind mounts on top of these nodes
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, I wonder if all those device specific files in there could be removed at one point, so those ports also do bind mounts
[11:45] <ogra_> janimo`, btw, we need to urgently replace the adbd bindmount on krillin
[11:45] <ogra_> (and soon also completely remove it)
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, what is that exactly? ah the upstart script?
[11:45] <ogra_> yeah
[11:45] <janimo`> ogra_, anytime, if you say it should work.
[11:45] <ogra_> it overrides my changes
[11:45] <janimo`> maybe I should test it
[11:46] <ogra_> janimo`, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8214748/ is the one the new package will ship (should cover your functionfs-double-mount issues)
[11:46] <ogra_> (iirc that was the initial reason for the bind mounts)
[11:51] <brendand> popey, afaict weather app fails on the stock mako image
[11:51] <sil2100> Laney: hey, so... since you did the last gst-plugins-bad1.0 upload - could you maybe take a look at some of the issues we're seeing with video playback? Bugs LP: #1363314 and LP: #1363653
[11:52] <sil2100> Laney: we have no idea on what's the cause and if it's related to gst at all, but maybe you could take a look anyway
[11:52] <popey> brendand: can you file a bug for it?
[11:56] <seb128> sil2100, Laney is on holidays for 10 days
[11:57] <seb128> sil2100, he's back on the 11
[11:57] <sil2100> So that explains why I didn't get an answer yesterday, huh
[11:57] <sil2100> seb128: thanks ;)
[11:57] <seb128> sil2100, you might want to get somebody else to look at it
[11:57] <seb128> yw!
[12:21] <ogra_> brendand, so any objection to me pushing lxc-android-config to rtm ?
[12:21] <pmcgowan> sil2100, do you have anyone to research that issue above and see if a landing to desktop caused it?
[12:22] <pmcgowan> sil2100, my understanding is we use gst0.1 not 1.0 on desktop
[12:22] <pmcgowan> maybe some plumbing got screwed up
[12:22] <ogra_> pmcgowan, we got the gst (and a ton of crappy x86 deps on arm) right before we brancehd off rtm
[12:23] <sil2100> pmcgowan: maybe, didn't yet get to the bottom of it, for now we checked and confirmed that reverting the gst1.0-plugins-bad upload doesn't fix the image situation at least
[12:23] <ogra_> it was just a debian sync but brought in dependencies like libdrm2 and such
[12:23] <pmcgowan> sigh
[12:23] <ogra_> pmcgowan, i pinged Laney about it but that was during debconf
[12:23] <sil2100> Now Laney is on holiday, so even worse
[12:23] <pmcgowan> ogra_, who should look into it iyo?
[12:23] <ogra_> eh said he'd take a look but i didnt hear back yet (and he might be off this week, recovering from jetlag)
[12:24] <ogra_> pmcgowan, well, preferably him ... he knows the packages best
[12:24] <pmcgowan> ok
[12:24] <ogra_> i'm not sure the recent other issues have anything to do with it
[12:34] <sil2100> It's really hard finding the person responsible
[12:34] <sil2100> brendand: hm, the video-playback issue is reproducible on mako as well right?
[12:37] <pmcgowan> asac, discussed here ^^
[12:38] <asac> sil2100: can we back it out?
[12:38] <asac> what would it take?
[12:38] <ogra_> asac, a ton
[12:38] <sil2100> asac: we have no idea what to back out... we tried backing out one part of it and it didn't help
[12:38] <sil2100> We don't know what exactly is the problem, we're looking and guessing
[12:39] <ogra_> we cant just back out from rtm only since i dont think we have the former package there
[12:39] <ogra_> so it would have to be a back out from the ground up ... of which we then dont know of how it will affect desktop
[12:40] <asac> ok, so who is currently engaged in this problem?
[12:40] <ogra_> (surely technically possible but also a hell lot of work)
[12:40] <ogra_> asac, well, i pinged Laney about it when it landed (while he was at debconf) ... he said he'd take a look ... thats my last info i have ... i didnt know he would be gone this week
[12:41] <ogra_> so atm we dont have anyone i think
[12:42] <ogra_> my concern was actually the megabytes of new x86 deps it pulls in on armhf which bloats our image massively
[12:42] <ogra_> (libdrm2 and friends)
[12:43] <sil2100> davmor2: hey, are you busy right now?
[12:43] <davmor2> yeap just testing a silo why?
[12:44] <sil2100> Ok, looking for someone that can do some bi-secting
[13:03] <plars> sergiusens: ogra_: Good morning, what's this I need to change?
[13:03] <davmor2> pmcgowan: I thought everything moved over to GST1.0 in trusty
[13:03] <ogra_> plars, we're still waiting for a change on the android side to support the u-d-f --password option
[13:03] <plars> ogra_: ah, ok
[13:04] <ogra_> plars, then you could test that bit and inject the new adbd right after install
[13:04] <plars> ogra_: sounds good
[13:04] <ogra_> and let a full run go through
[13:04] <ogra_> plars, oh, and i think mterry's final fix for the unlocking didnt land yet ... i guess you need that too
[13:04] <mterry> hm?
[13:04] <mterry> ah yeah
[13:04] <ogra_> (though i assume you could hack in the change yourself)
[13:04] <mterry> it's approved, but hasn't landed
[13:05] <plars> ogra_: indeed, I do
[13:06] <brendand> sil2100, yes i always checked on mako
[13:08] <brendand> thostr_, i can test rtm silo 008 or 009 - which one do you prefer?
[13:09] <thostr_> brendand: start with 9
[13:10] <pmcgowan> davmor2, dont think so we have different multimedia plugins for each with different deps
[13:12] <renatu> hey guys I am not able to download any jenkins generated zip file
[13:12] <renatu> is that I know problem?
[13:13] <davmor2> pmcgowan: fair enough
[13:25] <brendand> thostr_, if the silo adds new functionality did you add test cases for that to the test plan?
[13:25] <jgdx> cihelp: jenkins.qa.u.c down?
[13:25] <brendand> thostr_, or even if it fixes bugs
[13:26] <jgdx> cihelp: scratch that, just some 404s (e.g. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-system-settings-ci/1354/ )
[13:27] <cprov> jgdx: right, it's seems to be (mostly) available.
[13:27] <thostr_> brendand: silo 9 just changes the renderer to horizontal list
[13:28] <jgdx> cprov, thanks. Are things unpublished or is that 404 an error?
[13:28] <brendand> thostr_, if it changes the behaviour there should still be a test case
[13:28] <retoaded> jgdx, looks like 1354 and 1355 failed to publish
[13:28] <jgdx> retoaded, ack, thanks.
[13:29] <retoaded> jgdx, they have been re-published and should be available now
[13:29] <jgdx> retoaded, hey, awesome. Thank you
[13:29] <retoaded> jgdx, np
[13:33] <sil2100> GPU hang-up... thought I wouldn't see those anymore
[13:43] <davmor2> thostr_: hmmmmmm you silo-008 may of fixed the issue, but it re-revealed another issue, if at any time you put the device in plane mode and take it out and then restart the device you see no sims :( /me reflashes his phone
[13:44] <sil2100> davmor2: be sure to update the testing plan!
[13:44] <sil2100> :)
[13:46] <davmor2> sil2100: the bug needs fixing first then you update the testplan, if you do it now you leave a lot of people having to reflash their phone to get them working again
[13:49] <brendand> thostr_, when we play music from the scope, is it supposed to be the case that the music stops when we change the scope?
[13:57] <thostr_> brendand: no, that is not supposed to happen
[13:58] <brendand> thostr_, it's happening in utopic already
[13:58] <brendand> thostr_, i need to reflash and see is it in RTM
[13:59] <brendand> thostr_, did this change already land in utopic?
[14:00] <thostr_> brendand: yes
[14:01] <thostr_> brendand: I just retested on rtm and it works...
[14:02] <thostr_> brendand: or, maybe I misunderstood you: so music is supposed to play if it's playing in music app that was activated via preview. music is supposed to stop when using the play controls on preview
[14:10] <thostr_> davmor2: do you still see the networking issues after reflashing? if so, please talk directly to satoris
[14:11] <davmor2> thostr_: no it is always fixed on a fresh flash but it is a critical issue, not being able to turn off the device after using aeroplane mode is not fun
[14:12] <thostr_> satoris: ^
[14:12] <satoris> davmor2: I tried that on krillin and it finds the SIM after reboot just fine.
[14:13] <davmor2> satoris: not for me I rebooted 4 times
[14:13] <satoris> How does it manifest? Does the indicator say "no sim" or is it just empty?
[14:15] <brendand> thostr_, ah ok - that was a confusion then
[14:15] <brendand> thostr_, no problem
[14:19] <davmor2> satoris: one second
[14:25] <sil2100> ogra_: hey! Can I ask you to lead the meeting today, as per every few Tuesdays? ;)
[14:26] <ogra_> sil2100, sure, i assume rob is still off ?
[14:26] <sil2100> ogra_: he mentioned that he doesn't feel too well today so he'll miss the meeting
[14:26] <ogra_> (and we didnt have an image during the day ... so not much to discuss i guess)
[14:26] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks!
[14:27] <sil2100> Oh! Let's maybe kick one now, since there was that meta package upload, right?
[14:27] <sil2100> So much things that I think I forgot about that
[14:27] <sil2100> ogra_: btw. do you know if it's now possible for us to build images from the webiterface for RTM now?
[14:27] <davmor2> satoris: hmmm this is interesting after reflash, now if I click on flight mode it is instantly changed back to online
[14:33] <om26er> davmor2, Hey are we not testing mako much ?
[14:34] <davmor2> om26er: can you actually test mako on the current image please
[14:34] <om26er> davmor2, yes, sure.
[14:35] <om26er> davmor2, thats 218 right ?
[14:36] <davmor2> om26er: possibly let me check
[14:37] <davmor2> om26er: yeap 218
[14:37] <om26er> davmor2, ok, on it.
[14:39] <davmor2> om26er: thanks, if you can alternate it so one day test mako on the ubuntu branch and the next test it on rtm branch that would be awesome it will also make sure we don't introduce massive breakages in mako on either line
[14:39] <om26er> davmor2, how to test the rtm branch ?
[14:39] <om26er> well how to flash it i mean
[14:46] <davmor2> om26er: with or without the --wipe ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09-proposed --developer-mode --wipe
[14:47] <om26er> davmor2, ok, understood
[14:49] <davmor2> om26er: nice one :)
[14:52] <sil2100> psivaa: hey! Any news on the CI for click apps?
[14:54] <psivaa> sil2100: not yet. still digging this in #ci
[14:58] <rsalveti> sergiusens: ogra_: I'll upload a new android in a few
[15:04] <camako> what is the rtm equivalent of a ppa url? E.g. ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005
[15:05] <kenvandine> thostr_, i see silo 10 failed prepare, i have some settings branches to land, do you have an eta on this silo?
[15:06] <thostr_> kenvandine: that should land still today... at least that's the plan
[15:06] <kenvandine> thostr_,  although the failure looks like a citrain bug...
[15:06] <kenvandine> NameError: name 'allow_unlisted_sources' is not defined
[15:06] <thostr_> kenvandine: or, we're just missing a reconf
[15:06] <kenvandine> thostr_, cool, i'll wait then
[15:07] <kenvandine> that's a citrain traceback... sil2100 ^^
[15:09] <brendand> camako, they are the same
[15:09] <brendand> camako, are you trying to figure out how to add a ppa on RTM?
[15:10] <camako> brenand, I 'm trying to do : "apt-add-repository ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005"
[15:10] <brendand> camako, won't work
[15:10] <brendand> camako, at best it will error out
[15:10] <brendand> camako, at worst it will add a different ppa
[15:10] <davmor2> camako: you need to add it the old fashioned way
[15:10] <brendand> camako, you have to edit sources.list
[15:11] <thostr_> sil2100: can you check what's wrong with silo 10 (utopic)
[15:11] <camako> brendand, ah ok.. thanks
[15:11] <thostr_> sil2100: somehow it cannot find source when doing a reconf
[15:12] <brendand> camako, add 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005/ubuntu-rtm 14.09 main'
[15:12] <brendand> camako, apt-get update, etc etc
[15:12] <camako> brenand thanks a lot
[15:13] <sergiusens> sil2100: line 40 has no silo assigned, how do I go about that?
[15:19] <Mirv> sergiusens: assigning
[15:20] <sergiusens> Mirv: thanks, I thought it was assigned in parallel; do I need to ask explicitly?
[15:21] <Mirv> sergiusens: no, it's just that assigning it before the other one is ready for publishing is not useful. but maybe I should assign them both at the same time anyway.
[15:22] <Mirv> sergiusens: I kicked a build for you too at https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-rtm-landing-010-1-build/10/console <- after that's ready, it has uploaded the packages to the rtm silo (where they'll still be building even though it says it's "built")
[15:23] <sergiusens> Mirv: yeah, I thought the sync: magic would take care of the need to copy, which was the reason for it, as it was manual
[15:24] <Mirv> sergiusens: we try to make it look like it's all magical, but in reality we kick the assignments and builds at some specific times :)
[15:31] <Mirv> ralsina: Chipaca: ^ the ubuntu-push MP is unapproved
[15:31] <ralsina> yeah yeah, I see that
[15:31] <ralsina> sorry, approved it now
[15:31] <alecu_> cprov: Hi! I'm getting 404s for all jenkins links in this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~alecu/unity-scope-click/more-refreshing/+merge/232946
[15:32] <ralsina> sorry Mirv, forgot to push the button here
[15:32] <Mirv> ralsina: ok, thanks
[15:33] <alecu_> cprov: ah, the "trigger to rebuild" page said something about a failure while publishing; I've click the button to retry that.
[15:33] <Mirv> ogra_: if you're around still, https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-015-2-publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_ubuntu-push_0.63.2+14.10.20140902-0ubuntu1.diff <- ack for dropping libwhoopsie-dev b-d and adding liburl-dispatcher1-dev b-d
[15:33] <Mirv> dbarth: not approved https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/libaccounts-glib/packaging/+merge/232892
[15:34] <sergiusens> Mirv: the souce copy created a changelog from the start of existence to now instead of the latest; is that expected?
[15:34] <alecu_> well, it does not seem to fix it
[15:34] <sergiusens> oh, you added ~rtm
[15:35] <sergiusens> I though seb128 said not to change the version as it was a sync
[15:35] <Mirv> sergiusens: oh, I think I noticed something similar with some other package. sil2100 to ping about that changelog filling.
[15:36] <sergiusens> it's because the version was mangled with most likely
[15:36] <Mirv> sergiusens: the auto-sync system adds the ~rtm, so it's not actual sync but it downloads the package, changes version and uploads it.
[15:36] <sergiusens> sil2100: ^
[15:36] <sergiusens> Mirv: well, it needs a version bump instead of a change, if so, right?
[15:40] <Mirv> sergiusens: ~rtm is deliberate (~ means it's lower version than in utopic), but I'm not sure about the reasons for going for that. maybe to help syncing up later from u+1.
[15:41] <Mirv> I did my first manual rtm syncs with just source copy before this train sync:N method became possible
[15:41] <sergiusens> Mirv: can I get that instead until the ugly changelog issue is fixed?
[15:45] <Mirv> sergiusens: done.
[15:45] <Mirv> it's possible sil is attacking also that issue at the moment, since he's been working on the sync feature today too.
[15:59] <sergiusens> Mirv: thanks
[16:00] <sergiusens> Mirv: changelog looks nice now ;-)
[16:03] <thostr_> Mirv: could you check silo 10 and do a reconf? something seems broken there
[16:08] <Mirv> thostr_: reconf done.
[16:08] <camako> brendand, I added a "deb ..." line to the sources.list but now I'm getting :
[16:09] <camako> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net 14.09 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 85504128ECF1204C
[16:09] <brendand> camako, ignore it
[16:09] <brendand> camako, or you can go through a dance to get rid of it, but it's not really worth the time
[16:09] <camako> brendand, ok thx
[16:09] <camako> brendand, as long as it's added that's all I care
[16:10] <camako> :-)
[16:15] <brendand> thostr_, this silo isn't very good at generating the thumbnails for the video carousel
[16:15] <brendand> thostr_, thing is i can't really say it was any better before :/
[16:23] <elopio_> plars: I replied to your email. I saw sil2100 asking Mirv about the reminders package in jenkins run, but I'm not sure if the got anywhere.
[16:32] <thostr_> brendand: that silo doesn't touch the video thumbnailing
[16:45] <dbarth> Mirv: oops again; sorry
[16:46] <dbarth> now fixed
[16:47] <om26er> davmor2, image looks good.
[16:48] <davmor2> om26er: nice :)
[16:48] <davmor2> sil2100, ogra_: ^
[16:48] <davmor2> ogra_: that's mako 218
[16:49] <ogra_> davmor2, thats the unity8 landing ?
[16:49] <davmor2> ogra_: no image testing on 218 ubuntu branch
[16:49] <ogra_> ah
[17:07] <brendand> thostr_, sign-off granted. there are lots of issues with generating previews though - are you aware of them?
[17:21] <camako> Hi Ursinha, ubuntu-rtm/landing-005 is ready for QA testing... I marked it on the sheet as green.. Do I need to do anything else, or let anyone from QA know?
[17:26] <kenvandine> thostr_, i see silo 10 seems to have been fixed and prepare worked
[17:27] <kenvandine> thostr_, is it ready to build?  or waiting for something else?
[17:28] <Ursinha> camako: I think that's something for trainguards, but I'd also like to know :)
[17:28] <Ursinha> sil2100: how does that work?
[17:35] <camako> Ursinha, o ok.. title shows you as the Vanguard, that's why I was asking you :-)
[17:38] <ogra_> camako, vanguard != train support ... Ursinha doesnt waer the right hat :)
[17:38] <ogra_> *wear
[17:38] <camako> ok sorry my bad
[17:40] <Ursinha> ogra_: do you know what's next when something is ready for QA? should one add that to the signoff board?
[17:41] <Ursinha> hmm, probably
[17:41] <ogra_> i think QA does that themselves
[17:41] <ogra_> after skimming over the spreadsheet
[17:41] <ogra_> ( brendand may correct me :) )
[18:02] <brendand> Ursinha, if you have permissions you may feel free :)
[18:03] <brendand> Ursinha, anyway by tonight/tomorrow at the latest it will happen auto-magically
[18:03] <Ursinha> brendand: I don't think I have permissions
[18:03] <Ursinha> I want to know because whenever people ask on #ubuntu-ci-eng, I want to know the right answer to inform them
[18:03] <Ursinha> brendand: got it
[18:04] <Ursinha> automagically is good
[18:04] <Ursinha> :)
[18:21] <bzoltan1> Is here anybody who could assign a silo?
[18:29] <robru> bzoltan1: apologies, I wasn't feeling well this morning, but I'm here now. what you need?
[18:29] <sil2100> sergiusens: which ugly changelog bug?
[18:29]  * sil2100 got back just now as well
[18:30] <robru> bzoltan1: line 44 got silo 1
[18:31] <robru> boiko: line 45 got silo 3
[18:32] <boiko> robru: wow, that was fast! nice, thanks! I will add more MRs to that though, but I can ping you once I'm done with the list
[18:33] <robru> boiko: oh haha sorry, I just woke up and didn't notice it wasn't marked ready yet. yeah I can reconfig it when you need.
[18:34] <sil2100> sergiusens: so, the changelog bug that it's included in the changes file I'll fix soon, it seems the build package script passes some wrong flag during bzr bd
[18:34] <boiko> robru: I won't complain, I like when silo assignment is quick like that :D
[18:49] <thostr_> can I get a silo for line 35?
[18:52] <robru> thostr_: ok you got rtm4
[18:53] <thostr_> thanks
[18:53] <robru> bregma: https://ci-train.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-landing-011-2-publish/10/artifact/packaging_changes_unity8-desktop-session_1.0.12+14.10.20140829-0ubuntu1.diff i don't understand why you drop two different .install files but only one binary package stanza is being deleted from debian/control? surely you should keep debian/unity8-desktop-session-mir.install
[18:53] <robru> thostr_: you're welcome
[18:55] <bregma> robru, if a source package produces a single binary dpkg gets very confused if you supply a .install file instead of just packaging all the build products -- you need to add specialization to the dh rules -- that's more work than just removing the unused .install files
[18:57] <sil2100> sergiusens: I... think I might know what's up
[18:59] <robru> bregma: ah sorry, assumed there was more than one other binary package there. duh
[19:05] <bzoltan1> robru:  thanks
[19:06] <ogra_> sil2100, fyi there was a new device tarball uploaded for krillin ... that bumped the image number to 12
[19:06] <sil2100> ogra_: thanks
[19:08] <robru> bzoltan1: you're welcome
[19:13] <robru> Saviq: you got rtm8
[19:17] <Saviq> robru, hum, that is already in rtm3...
[19:19] <Saviq> robru, ah no, you're right... although I thought I already had an rtm silo for it..
[19:19] <Saviq> robru, right, silo 7
[19:19] <robru> Saviq: hm, ok, i'll fix it
[19:22] <sil2100> sergiusens, Mirv: I just fixed the changelog thing
[19:22] <sil2100> sergiusens, Mirv: in the end it seemed to be a one-liner ;/
[19:30] <sil2100> thostr_: ping
[19:30] <sil2100> thostr_: are you still around?
[19:31] <thostr_> kind of
[19:32] <sil2100> thostr_: a quick question then :)
[19:32] <thostr_> shoot
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: so, as you might or might not have heard, we have found the upload that caused our overall problems with gst and such
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: it seems to be thumbnailer 1.2+14.10.20140827.1-0ubuntu1
[19:33] <thostr_> yes, I already talk to jhodapp to get more info
[19:33] <thostr_> and asked jussi to revert
[19:33] <sil2100> thostr_: can we revert it for now until it's fixed?
[19:34] <sil2100> I can revert it in the archive, and you just work on the real fix then
[19:34] <thostr_> if nothing else breaks you can revert...  but it needs more testing as  we had some more changes afterwards
[19:35] <sil2100> Right, yeah... so, I could revert both, but now there's the question if it won't break anything indeed
[19:36] <thostr_> a later fix was about thumbnail resolution, so reverting this shouldn't break anything
[19:36] <sil2100> thostr_: although I see the recent change was not anything crucial
[19:36] <sil2100> Yeah
[19:36] <sil2100> Ok, let me prepare a revert anyway
[19:36] <thostr_> and the thumbnail extraction from music files wasn't used yet
[19:36] <thostr_> so that can be reverted as well
[19:36] <thostr_> (that wasn't yet in rtm anyway)
[19:37] <thostr_> so, you might be save actually
[19:37] <popey> sil2100: will that revert be done today?
[19:37] <sil2100> popey: yes
[19:38] <sil2100> thostr_: thanks!
[19:38] <sil2100> popey: I'm doing it now :)
[19:38] <sil2100> Sooooo, we might be FREE soon
[19:38] <sil2100> Awww, thumbnailer is in main, darn
[19:39] <sil2100> ogra_: are you around for an upload
[19:50] <ToyKeeper> robru, sil2100: I'm in bed with a cold today, but with any luck I'll be able to clear some silos tonight.  Not sure how long this will last.
[19:51] <robru> ToyKeeper: haha, must be something going around, I had to sleep in this morning as well. take care, catch up later! ;-)
[19:51] <sil2100> ;)
[19:54] <sil2100> popey: asking slangasek now to upload the revert for me
[20:02] <popey> k
[20:09] <sil2100> hmmm
[20:13] <slangasek> right, so, thumbnailer uploaded
[20:13] <slangasek> but why is *anything* still using gst0.10?
[20:18] <rsalveti> slangasek: qtmultimedia is still using gst0.10 by default, for example
[20:19] <slangasek> yes, the question is /why/
[20:19] <rsalveti> probably because they didn't get the resources to migrate to gst1.0
[20:19] <slangasek> well, gst0.10 is whatever the superlative form of "obsolete" is
[20:23] <brendand> camako, that's a biggy - going to be a while for testing it
[20:24] <camako> brenand, will you be going through the Mir test plan or do you have other tests?
[20:24] <camako> brendand ^^
[20:28] <brendand> camako, our policy for landings at that level is to run a full system test plan
[20:29] <camako> brendand, ok sounds good... If you do refer to the mir test plan and something is unclear to you, please do ping me thanks
[21:30] <kenvandine> robru, has anyone looked at why ubuntu silo 10 is failing to prepare?
[21:30] <kenvandine> NameError: name 'allow_unlisted_sources' is not defined
[21:30] <robru> kenvandine: nope, haven't looked yet
[21:31] <kenvandine> i tried bugging sil2100 about it earlier, but he never responded
[21:31] <kenvandine> i need thostr_ to be able to land his stuff... so i can get another settings silo ready :)
[21:32] <robru> kenvandine: sorry in a meeting, will look at it shortly. dashboard didn't report an error
[21:32] <kenvandine> no worries
[21:32] <kenvandine> yeah, it still thinks it's preparing
[21:32] <kenvandine> but it isn't :)
[21:38] <boiko> robru: in the spreadsheet, do the MRs need to be separate by spaces still, or can we place one MR per line now?
[21:38] <robru> boiko: spaces or lines should be fine
[21:39] <boiko> robru: nice! I remember in the past it would break, but that was long ago and I never took the time to ask about it again :) thanks
[21:42] <sergiusens> boiko: I've been doing lines for ever
[21:43] <boiko> sergiusens: nice, I'll start using it now :)
[21:44] <sergiusens> boiko: yeah, spaces make it too hard to read
[21:44] <boiko> yep
[22:06] <camako> elopio, saw your comment on Mir testing. You're talking abt mir test plan right?
[22:06] <robru> boiko: yeah you're welcome. as far as I remember, the code that parses that spreadsheet field is just python that says 'line.split()' or whatever, so any whitespace should work
[22:07] <elopio> camako: yes, I'm talking about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlans/Mir
[22:16] <camako>  elopio, brendand, just a heads up that testing on the ubuntu-rtm/landing-005 silo needs to be completed before anything else lands for its rdeps (unity-system-compositor, qtmir, platform-api). Otherwise, it could invalidate our own testing.. We make sure this happens when releasing to ubuntu.. not sure if you take this into account or not...
[23:49] <Saviq> robru, don't --bootstrap krillin
[23:49] <Saviq> robru, that's why it's hanging (yeah, a bug in u-d-f still, but will let you flash actually)


[02:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89581 in xserver-xorg-video-tdfx (main) "Undefined symbol in Xorg tdfx server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89581
[03:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #82999 in xorg (main) "Some windows are empty" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82999
[03:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #88423 in xserver-xorg-video-via (main) "[apport]  compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in viaGetLock()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88423
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #43944 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "Resuming (from suspended state) hangs X / keyboard" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/43944
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #47217 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "Installation of nvidia-glx-legacy causes hang on reboot" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/47217
[11:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89632 in xorg (main) "moving windows jumps xorg cpu usage + fan" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89632
[11:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #20359 in xorg (main) "Loads gdm. Freezes while logging in" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/20359
[02:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89653 in xserver-xorg-input-mouse (main) "Horizontal scrolling not working for Logitech LX5 mouse" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89653
[02:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89659 in libx11 (main) "X11 locale data misconfiguration after upgrade to feisty." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89659
[04:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #39050 in gst-plugins-base0.10 "gstreamer crashes due to BadAlloc response from xv" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39050
[10:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #89727 in xorg (main) "Touchpad horizontal scrolling seems to be disable by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89727
[11:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #53664 in xorg (main) "Wrong resolution detected for Dell 2405 monitor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/53664


[00:25] <technoviking> can someone send me a PM
[00:31] <cjohnston> no
[07:52] <dholbach> good morning
[08:22] <dpm> morning all
[08:59] <head_victim> Anyone know a good point of reference I can point someone to that are asking about the ethical nature of "selling" ubuntu on ebay?
[09:07] <head_victim> No matter, I just reread http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/licensing and saw it did actually cover that
[11:24]  * popey spies someone trying to change the password on the ubuntudevelopers channel on youtube
[11:24]  * popey wonders if it's jcastro or jono
[11:29] <dholbach> popey, it was me, nevermind - I was too stupid to read the instructions properly
[11:29] <popey> haha
[11:29] <czajkowski> q
[11:29] <dholbach> for a moment it seemed to me like Google had moved off of "old youtube accounts" to google-accounts only and I felt like my Google account was not connected to the channel
[11:30] <dholbach> then I found the "or youtube username" bit :)
[14:57] <cprofitt> dholbach: ping
[14:57] <dholbach> cprofitt, pong
[14:57] <cjohnston> cprofitt: !
[14:57] <cprofitt> hey cjohnston
[14:57] <cjohnston> o/
[14:57] <cprofitt> dholbach: I added myself to the schedule for the lifecycle presentation... balloons is away right now
[14:58] <cprofitt> let me know if that needs to be moved
[14:58] <dholbach> NICE :-D
[14:58]  * dholbach hugs cprofitt
[14:58] <dholbach> you're a hero
[14:58] <dholbach> thanks
[14:58] <cprofitt> thanks for thinking of me
[14:58]  * cprofitt hugs dholbach back
[15:17] <dpm> hi mhall119, good morning, do you know someone who'd be able to answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/95956/creating-a-unity-lens-the-name-activation-does-not-exist-in-the-context-of-u
[15:37] <mhall119> dpm: it just so happens I had to find that answer this morning, I'll answer it
[15:37] <dpm> mhall119, excellent :)
[15:37] <mhall119> dpm: developer.u.c has C and Python api docs, why not vala?
[15:40] <dpm> mhall119, we've only got the main languages there, and giraffe, the tool that creates the docs from the gobject-introspection .gir files only supports C and Python for now.
[15:47] <mhall119> vala isn't a main language?
[15:47] <mhall119> It's one the files and application lenses are written in isn't it?
[15:48] <dpm> Yes, but that's for the shell -e.g. we don't have C++ docs, either-. For app developers, we currently recommend Python.
[15:49] <dpm> I agree that it would make sense, but at the time of setting up the docs infrastructure, the priorities were Python and C for Unity API documentation
[15:50] <dpm> and since there hasn't been any update to giraffe since then, there haven't been any new languages to support as an output
[15:52] <mhall119> dpm: answered
[15:53] <dpm> mhall119, thanks!
[16:00] <jcastro> hello
[16:01] <s-fox> Ping dholbach
[16:01] <dholbach> s-fox, heya
[16:01] <dholbach> I got your mail
[16:01] <dholbach> thanks a bunch
[16:01] <s-fox> No worries.  Thank you.
[16:02] <dholbach> s-fox, thank YOU
[16:03] <jcastro> Chris Kempson
[16:06] <mhall119> jcastro: where's my bounty money?
[16:07] <s-fox> Email received dholbach . I'll work with the rest of the forum council and hopefully get this to you as soon as possible. When do you need it by?
[16:07] <jcastro> waiting for him to accept the answer
[16:07] <jcastro> mhall119: and it always makes me wait 24 hours anyway
[16:07]  * mhall119 is like dog the bounty hunter
[16:08] <dholbach> s-fox, don't kill yourself doing it, but sometime soon would be nice - maybe Mike still can let you know which buttons to press to get it :)
[16:08] <cjohnston> mhall119: just point everyone to askjorge.info
[16:08] <mhall119> cjohnston: it's not longer his job though, where's my askmichael.info ?
[16:08] <cjohnston> according to Jane, it is
[16:08] <s-fox> dholbach,  I can probably start on it tomorrow evening. I'd start today but I have to prep for a php dev job I am going for tomorrow.
[16:09] <cjohnston> The way I understood it was thats the job of all the community team ;-)
[16:09] <dholbach> s-fox, cool, maybe somebody else can help with it as well
[16:09] <dholbach> s-fox, thanks a lot
[16:09] <dholbach> mhall119, jcastro, dpm, balloons: awake? team meeting time :)
[16:09] <cjohnston> mhall119: buy your own domain
[16:09] <mhall119> dholbach: awake and caffinated
[16:09] <mhall119> cjohnston: I see how it is
[16:09] <dholbach> #ubuntu-meeting is taken by the server team
[16:09]  * cjohnston has the sudden urge to pop a balloon
[16:09] <dholbach> so let's just do it in here
[16:09] <dholbach> #startmeeting
[16:09] <cjohnston> mhall119: i already got him. its not fun to do it again
[16:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 24 16:09:58 2012 UTC.  The chair is dholbach. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[16:10] <dholbach> #topic roundtables
[16:10] <mhall119> dholbach: do we have any kind of agenda?
[16:10] <dholbach> I think we'll just do the roundtables to get everybody on the same page, then see what kind of other business it generates
[16:10] <dholbach> and if you have questions, just ask
[16:11] <dholbach> I have my notes in front of me, so I can go first :)
[16:11] <dholbach> #topic update daniel
[16:11] <dholbach> it's been a while since the last meeting, so here goes:
[16:11] <dholbach>  - Patch pilots: added Herton, piloted myself, set up schedule for next month, reminded everyone of getting back to it.
[16:11] <dholbach>  - UDW: call for sessions, almost done with the schedule.
[16:11] <dholbach>  - Dev Advisory Team: team call, organisation of notes, reached out to both new contributors and folks who might be ready for upload rights, wiki docs up to date, moved some parts to trello.
[16:12] <dholbach>  - ARB: discussion with dpm and mvo about further plans, review of ARB queue, catch-up call, call with Michael Nelson about PPA submissions, casted some new ARB members.
[16:12] <dholbach>  - Development docs: submitted an article to Linux Magazine, merged Packaging Guide fixes.
[16:12] <dholbach>  - Dev News Team: split up responsibilities, wrote dev updates, started interviews with software-center team, Edubuntu team and others.
[16:12] <dholbach>  - Harvest: finally got access to the logs, fixed two bugs, asked IS to deploy, hopefully soon up and running again, together with Andrew Starr-Bocchichio deployed Fedora patches data feed. Now just need pgbouncer installed to hopefully resolve the problems we had a while ago.
[16:13] <dholbach>  - Talked with Michael Hall about patch piloting in other teams, provided Michael with a couple of scripts to help.
[16:13] <dholbach>  - CC: organised IRC Council restaffing, dealt RMB Asia/Oceania quorum issues - mailed general thoughts to RMBs/CC. CC meeting + private call, assisted with German team IRC channels.
[16:13] <dholbach>  - Stats: got access to ubuntuwire, investigating Ultimate Debian Database data.
[16:13] <dholbach>  - Took remaining holidays + swap days. Platform team rally. Catch up with email. Almost there.
[16:13] <dholbach>  - Misc: had a look at a2png+metapixel for generating some graphics.
[16:13] <dholbach> Any questions?
[16:14]  * mhall119 feels like he should have written all this out already, to copy/paste
[16:14] <jcastro> hey about the ARB queue
[16:14] <jcastro> any new apps?
[16:14] <jcastro> that made it through I mean
[16:14] <mhall119> jcastro: looks like we had some additiona lenses
[16:14] <mhall119> davidcalle's utility lens I think
[16:14] <dholbach> AFAIK there's 2 lenses which came in, and lots of clean up in the queue
[16:14] <dpm> jcastro, yes, the utilities lens
[16:14] <dpm> and the sshsearch lens
[16:14] <jcastro> NICE!
[16:15] <dpm> \o/
[16:15] <dholbach> sshsearch looks like a typo :)
[16:15] <dpm> ;)
[16:15] <dholbach> ok, who wants to go next? jcastro?
[16:15] <dholbach> #topic update jorge
[16:15] <jcastro> hi everyone
[16:16] <jcastro> I just came back from all-weekend long SCaLE
[16:16] <jcastro> and got a bit sick but I'm powering through it.
[16:16] <snap-l> jcastro: Con-crud?
[16:16] <mhall119> scale flu
[16:16] <dholbach> :-(
[16:16] <jcastro> - Did 3 events, first was my talk on Unity
[16:16] <balloons> feel better jcastro -- that was alot of travel
[16:16] <snap-l> Hope you feel better
[16:16] <dholbach> jcastro, hope you get well soon again!
[16:16] <jcastro> which I was surprised at how positive it was, I was expecting to be flamed, but it was awesome
[16:16] <jcastro> then we ran a 3 hour long charm school
[16:16] <jcastro> which Clint mostly ran, I gave away shirts, etc.
[16:16] <snap-l> jcastro: I think people are over the "Unity sucks" phase
[16:17] <snap-l> Now we're gearing up for HUD sucks. ;)
[16:17] <jcastro> Mike Basinger started a phpbb charm
[16:17] <jcastro> and finished /and submitted/ a charm for salt
[16:17] <dholbach> nice
[16:17] <jcastro> which is nice, not bad for a guy who learned what a charm was the same weekend
[16:17] <snap-l> sweetness
[16:17] <jcastro> last talk was my general juju talk, which was packed!
[16:17] <jcastro> standing room only in the back
[16:17] <jcastro> Clint really did a great job with the demo
[16:17] <jcastro> and we were swamped with questions
[16:18] <snap-l> jcastro: We're planning a charm school at CHC for the long-edition
[16:18] <jcastro> Found out disney uses ubuntu! and we saw the rasberry pi running XBMC at 1080p.
[16:18] <balloons> jcastro, that's awesome news
[16:18] <jcastro> Met the guy who started jenkins
[16:18] <mhall119> the disney news was pretty cool, I wan't to find out more about that
[16:18] <jcastro> he was happy to hear how we use it, and asked if we could tell the world about (hint hint balloons)
[16:18] <jcastro> other than that
[16:18] <jcastro> this week will be finalizing the plans for charm school at Strata
[16:19] <jcastro> and the million things on my trello board
[16:19] <jcastro> other than that, good to be back!
[16:19] <snap-l> jcastro: Recommend a heavy dose of Iron Maiden's "The Trooper"
[16:19] <dholbach> any more questions for Jorge?
[16:19] <mhall119> so does Ubuntu run on rasberry pi?
[16:19] <mhall119> I didn't think we supported teh ARMv6 it had
[16:20] <dholbach> jcastro, thanks a bunch
[16:20] <balloons> jcastro, hmm.. let me know his details, we'll sync up
[16:20] <dholbach> balloons, do you want to go next?
[16:20] <jcastro> mhall119: I don't know, but it was awesome
[16:20] <dholbach> #topic update nicholas
[16:21] <balloons> alright, I liked dholbach's bullet style so we'll do that a fire away
[16:22] <balloons> -setup blog and wrote introduction post to everyone, saying hello world
[16:22] <balloons> -reached out and met lots of cool folks working on "QA" stuff for ubuntu. ubuntu friendly. u+1, ubuntu bugsquad, platform qa, canonical qa team
[16:23] <balloons> -worked with mhall119, jcastro and stefano on caseconductor charm. hoping to get charm running as soon as mozilla folks finish coding case conductor
[16:23] <mhall119> nigelb: ^^
[16:24]  * nigelb looks around innocently.
[16:24] <balloons> -met and setup meeting with mozilla folks (thanks nigelb for pointing me to irc.mozilla.org) to discuss requirements and needs for case conductor
[16:24] <balloons> -learned a bit about meetingbot and successfully managed to host a meeting :-)
[16:25] <dpm> good work!
[16:25] <dholbach> wow, congratulations! :)
[16:25] <balloons> I think that's about it..
[16:25] <dholbach> I'm still wondering if the command I just typed was the right one ;-)
[16:25] <dholbach> great work balloons, good to see you're getting to know everyone :)
[16:25] <dholbach> any more questions for balloons?
[16:26] <dholbach> mhall119, want to go next?
[16:26] <mhall119> sure
[16:26] <dholbach> #topic update michael
[16:26] <mhall119> - updated dholbach's bug_stats to include MP stats for unity, nux and compiz
[16:27] <mhall119> - worked with dpm and aquarius to remove couchdb recommendations from the developer portal and ubuntu one developer pages
[16:28] <mhall119> - cleanup/update Unity API documentation on the wiki
[16:28] <mhall119> - met up with the Ubuntu TV team, started the process of providing community contributors an easy way of getting started hacking on UbuntuTV
[16:29] <dholbach> nice :-)
[16:29] <mhall119> dholbach: I'd like to do the intro for Saviq at UDW, btw, to try and prevent his entire session from devolving into a "Why did you make it in secret" flamewar
[16:30] <dholbach> sure
[16:30] <mhall119> - worked with cjohnston and linaro members on planning enhancements for summit
[16:30] <cjohnston> yay
[16:30] <dholbach> (I'll add your name to the schedule, so I remember to add you as a helper/speaker/host/whateveritis)
[16:30] <mhall119> - started lens creation guinelines with johnlea and davidcalle to prevent the proliferation of per-source lenses
[16:31] <mhall119> dholbach: thanks,also I'll take a full hour for my tech overview, that'll make me run up against saviq's session anyway
[16:31] <dholbach> :-)
[16:31] <dholbach> awesome
[16:31] <mhall119> - Got SUMO running on a test instance, began the process of evaluating it for our needs
[16:32] <cjohnston> mhall119 is trying to become a sumo wrestler
[16:32] <mhall119> - Spoke with thumper about implementing a patch pilot and other ways to improve community collaboration and involvement with the DX team
[16:33] <mhall119> - Started the process of moving everybody out of #ayatana and into #ubuntu-unity channels
[16:33] <dholbach> +1 for more patch pilot coverage :)
[16:33] <mhall119> - misc work with the dx team to cleanup and improve the documentation and examples out there for unity
[16:34] <mhall119> that's it for me
[16:34] <dholbach> thanks a bunch mhall119
[16:34] <dholbach> questions for mhall119?
[16:35] <dholbach> dpm, ready?
[16:35] <dholbach> #topic update david
[16:35] <dpm> yes!
[16:35] <dpm> - Post Budapest rally catch up
[16:35] <dpm> - Worked with dholbach, the ARB and others to review and clean up the ARB queue
[16:35] <dpm> - Contacted Kazam developers to ask them if they want to submit their app to developer.ubuntu.com - any other suggestions for apps to add to the Software Center are welcome! ;)
[16:36] <dpm> - Re-enabled automatic language pack generation for Precise
[16:36] <dpm> - Translations team meeting: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Meetings/2012-01-19
[16:36] <dpm> - Worked with ant from the web design team to provide an internationalization infrastructure to the Ubuntu Online Tour. See it now in Simplified Chinese ;) http://www.ubuntu.com/
[16:36] <dpm> - Postponed a bunch of developer.ubuntu.com work items - there are no web design team resources available for phase 2 this cycle, so we'll be going on maintenance mode this cycle and start phase II on the next
[16:37] <dholbach> I can't read it, but it looks just great :)
[16:37] <dpm> 新春快乐
[16:37] <dpm> so happy new year! :-)
[16:37] <dholbach> dpm, so you picked up a new hobby? :)
[16:38] <dpm> :-)
[16:38] <dpm> enough languages
[16:38] <dpm> I'm still considering learning a new one
[16:38] <dpm> but Chinese would be too hard for me
[16:38] <dpm> perhaps Arabic...
[16:38] <dpm> anyway :)
[16:38] <dpm> - Revived a conversation with the im-config (a package to switch input methods) upstream developer to migrate to im-config in Ubuntu
[16:38] <dpm> - Refined the documentation on how to create localized images: http://askubuntu.com/questions/95190/what-is-an-ubuntu-localized-image-and-how-do-i-create-one
[16:39] <dpm> - Worked on a proposal to help localizing ubuntu-docs images
[16:39] <dholbach> yeah, anything but French - it would get seb128 closer to his plan of making it the official language of Ubuntu :-P
[16:39] <dpm> yeah, he even got as far as getting rickspencer3 to talk French!
[16:40] <dpm> - Started working on a new tutorial with Quickly for developer.ubuntu.com (still WIP, getting back in touch with development and getting to know PyGI)
[16:40] <dpm> and I think these were the main things
[16:40] <dpm> any questions?
[16:40] <dholbach> nice, good work dpm - it was great to work with you on the ARB bits
[16:41] <dpm> same here :)
[16:41]  * dpm hugs dholbach
[16:41]  * dholbach hugs dpm back
[16:41] <dholbach> with Jono partly on holidays and partly in a meeting with some web team, I guess we can conclude the roundtables section
[16:41] <jono> sorry folks
[16:41] <jono> thanks dholbach for coordinating this
[16:41] <mhall119> he's on holiday-meetings
[16:42] <jono> my call has finished and I am waiting for my next one now
[16:42] <dholbach> ok, let's conclude the roundtables then
[16:42] <dholbach> #topic other business
[16:42] <mhall119> jono: your definition of 'holiday' needs some work
[16:42] <nigelb> haha
[16:43] <dholbach> is there anything you want to bring up? discuss? good news? stuck somewhere? anything else?
[16:43] <jono> mhall119, LOL
[16:43] <nigelb> mhall119: Its the day in which he has only 8 hours of meetings.
[16:43] <jono> dholbach, I am pretty good, no topics to raise right now
[16:43] <jono> anyone else?
[16:44] <balloons> nothing here
[16:44] <dholbach> if anyone has some spare speaker for UDW up their sleeve, let me know - if not, I'll go and recruit some for my 4 empty slots now :)
[16:44] <dpm> I'm good too
[16:44] <jono> I have one thing
[16:44] <jono> so what does everything think of the HUD?
[16:44] <cjohnston> looks cool
[16:44] <dholbach> yeah, same here, I can't wait to play around with it
[16:44] <ahayzen> looks very good :)
[16:45] <jono> awesome
[16:45] <jono> I have been playing with it
[16:45] <jono> it is pretty cool
[16:45] <jono> I think it might be in the PPA now
[16:45] <mhall119> HUD looks cool
[16:45] <jono> indicator-appmenu
[16:45] <jono> not sure though
[16:45] <jono> folks can ask tedg in #ubuntu-unity
[16:46] <dholbach> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-install-unitys-hud-feature-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[16:46] <mhall119> I'll be sure to talk about it during UDW
[16:46] <dholbach> nice
[16:46] <balloons> make that 3 slots open.. lol
[16:46]  * dholbach hugs mhall119
[16:46] <koolhead17> hi all
[16:46] <dholbach> balloons, mhall119 is already sufficiently involved in UDW ;-)
[16:46] <dholbach> ok, I think that's a wrap :)
[16:46] <dholbach> #endmeeting
[16:46] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jan 24 16:46:56 2012 UTC.
[16:46] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-community-team/2012/ubuntu-community-team.2012-01-24-16.09.moin.txt
[16:47] <mhall119> balloons: yeah, I'm adding to one of my existing 2 sessions
[16:47] <balloons> mhall119, I figured as much.. I had to poke anyway
[16:47] <jcastro> mhall119: we need to chat soonish today
[16:47] <mhall119> balloons: you should hang out in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat next week, so you'll know how to run a session for the next time
[16:48] <mhall119> jcastro: sure thing, let me finish installing HUD ;)
[16:49] <balloons> hud is invoked merely by pressing 'alt', n'est pas?
[16:49] <mhall119> oui
[16:52] <snap-l> Does HUD intercept alt-commands intended for terminals (for things like IRSSI / Weechat?)
[16:54] <dpm> balloons, would you have a few minutes to talk about the "test cases for localized images" work item?
[16:54] <mhall119> snap-l: I think only in the way that the global menu did
[16:54] <mhall119> but i'm still installing it
[16:55] <balloons> dpm, sure..
[16:55] <balloons> let me pull up the blueprint
[16:56] <dpm> cool. balloons, if you've got some time now, we could do a hangout, which I think will be much quicker.
[16:56] <balloons> yes, lets
[16:57] <dpm> ok, let me set it up...
[16:58] <mhall119> snap-l: HUD seems to ignore Alt+<key>
[16:58] <dpm> balloons, ok, invite sent
[16:58] <mhall119> only tapping alt will bring it up
[17:03] <jono> is planet ubuntu having some problems?
[17:04] <s-fox> jono,  bit slow but does load
[17:04] <jono> thanks s-fox
[17:05] <s-fox> Of course down for me says it is down. lol http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://planet.ubuntu.com/
[17:05] <jcastro> yeah it's twitchy today
[17:08] <jcastro> ah guys
[17:08] <jcastro> john oxton is the cause of our WI problems
[17:08] <jcastro> he had a bunch and wasnt' aware how to use that
[17:08] <jcastro> so I should have that fixed soon
[17:12] <snap-l> mhall119: Ah, interesting
[17:21] <mhall119> wi problems?
[17:22] <jcastro> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-precise/canonical-community.html
[17:22] <jcastro> we are close
[17:25] <mhall119> jcastro: should any of those be assigned to me?
[17:28] <jcastro> I don't think so, I am not sure though
[17:29] <jcastro> anyway, aha, looks like he figured it out, that's probably how we got back under
[17:33] <balloons> jcastro, mhall119 caseconductor guys say we can do a test deploy of our charm at this point. The app should be able to come up (although it's not usable). I'd like to get something on the calendar this week to do a test deploy to canonistack
[17:33] <jcastro> balloons: ok, can you liaise with stefano?
[17:34] <balloons> i can -- when is he usually around?
[17:35] <jcastro> he's on central europe time
[17:35] <jcastro> but I am unsure how around he is on irc
[17:35] <jcastro> I will mail you his email
[17:35] <balloons> thanks
[17:37] <mhall119> wow, that's an old card/w 36
[17:37] <mhall119> bah
[17:42] <jcastro> I keep getting a call error
[17:50] <dpm> ok, calling it a day, but staying on irc for a while...
[17:55] <mhall119> jcastro: when do you want to get together with balloons?
[17:56] <jcastro> whenever
[17:56] <mhall119> right now?
[17:56] <jcastro> I am slammed with a bunch of time sensitive things right now, can we discuss this tomorrow?
[17:56] <jcastro> oh, I thought you meant physicially?
[17:56] <mhall119> I did
[17:56] <mhall119> :)
[17:57] <mhall119> tomorrow is fine
[17:57] <mhall119> oh, and in the second between your list of tasks, can you give some thought to charming summit?
[17:58] <jcastro> Sure
[17:58] <jcastro> "Do it!"
[17:58] <jcastro> :)
[18:02] <dholbach> dinner time - see you all tomorrow
[18:03] <s-fox> Goodbye.
[19:07] <balloons> markshuttleworth.com down? weird
[19:10] <mhall119> overloaded perhaps
[21:22] <jcastro> I think he needs to move to the cloud
[21:27] <mhall119> not enough dragons in the cloud
[21:27] <pleia2> why not? dragons have wings!
[21:27] <scott-work_> cjohnston: i thought that work items were to be tied to launchpad account names?
[21:28] <mhall119> pleia2: yeah, but only charming ones get to the clouds
[21:28] <scott-work_> cjohnston: re: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-ubuntustudio-misc-improvements
[21:28] <pleia2> mhall119: oh, I see
[21:28] <cjohnston> they do
[21:28] <jcastro> we have a mediawiki charm
[21:29] <mhall119> jcastro: where's the summit charm?
[21:29] <cjohnston> what you put in wasn't a lp name
[21:29] <jcastro> mhall119: make one?
[21:29] <mhall119> not my job
[21:29] <cjohnston> lol
[21:29] <mhall119> you're the cloud guy, cjohnston is the summit guy
[21:30] <jcastro> so you're saying cjohnston isn't doing his job?
[21:30]  * jcastro snickers
[21:30] <mhall119> yeah, he's spending all his time doing nigelb's job
[21:30] <pleia2> cjohnston: btw: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2012-January/001878.html
[21:30] <cjohnston> jcastro: get me a few paychecks
[21:30] <pleia2> cjohnston: so people know it exists now, I'll wait until word from Arwen about a dinner plan
[21:31] <cjohnston> pleia2: email me the link please
[21:31] <pleia2> k
[21:31] <scott-work_> cjohnston: hmmm, i thought it was, sorry for the confusion
[21:31] <mhall119> cjohnston: I'll give you all the paychecks you want, just tell me how many zeros to put in front of the decimal
[21:31]  * scott-work_ wonders if something changed or he just made a dumb mistake
[21:34] <cjohnston> mhall119: a 1 and then 17 0s
[21:34] <cjohnston> bbl
[21:37] <mhall119> I only said zeros