 looks like the grouping policy on qgis, telegram-desktop and qtmir is now blocking things?
 I wonder if we no-change build those now in proposed that would break it?
 @RikMills [I wonder if we no-change build those now in proposed that would break it?], telegram-desktop won't build, as doko removed ms-gsl
 @mitya57 [telegram-desktop won't build, as doko removed ms-gsl], I know, but that has not stopped it being grouped
 I don't care if they build. Just that the version in -proposed is no longer a grouped one
 Ok, let me rebuild then. (I will no-change rebuild qtmir, sync telegram-desktop and build qgis with -j2 instead of -j3)
 Cool. I am hoping that once those sources are published in proposed, built or not, we might be there.
 Or it might make anything else that is blocking that I can't see now, more obvious
 I see `ninja -v -j4 -C debian/build` in the failing qgis log. I need to find out why my --parallel=3 doesn't work.
 (I know we don't need it to build, but I want to fix it still)
 Uploaded all three now.
 Thanks. I hope that does it. If not, it should make the next "why not" more obvious.
 @mitya57 Qt is migrating \o/
 Nice!
 \o/
 @bhushanshah [\o/], and we have newer than Neon :P


 @mitya57 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1944468
 they are talking there about reverting the clone3 change for 21.10
 I guess that would not re-break QtWebengine things? The patch you applied seem to have an 'if' guard
 I hope so. In any case we have autopkgtests which should signal if something goes wrong.
 ok, thanks
[08:50] <fvogt_vps> Is that actually the plan or is that just something requested by "victims"? Here our glibc maintainers are vehemently opposed to doing anything about this issue and if Ubuntu reverts this, it would be a good argument...
[08:54] <RikMills> fvogt_vps: at the moment, it is only as for as the comments on that as far as I know. The commenters are core developers, but not the senior release/foundations-team people I would expect to see sign off such an change
[08:54] <RikMills> *as far as
[08:56]  * RikMills needs more coffee before constructing sentences
[08:57] <RikMills> fvogt_vps: if it becomes a firm plan, I will let you know
[09:03] <fvogt_vps> RikMills: Here it's pretty much the same... Thanks!
[11:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-qt- Unapproved: qtbase-opensource-src (impish-proposed/universe) [5.15.2+dfsg-10 => 5.15.2+dfsg-12] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu, qt5) (sync)


[01:03] <zuixro> Hey, I am running Mythbuntu 10.10, and my hard drive keeps filling up. It keeps recording to that drive even when there's no space left. Also, I keep getting logged out every 2 hours.
[01:05] <zuixro> My question is, How do I fix either or both of these problems?
[01:08] <Patrickdk> sounds like you never did the config
[01:08] <Patrickdk> the config explicitly asks you how often to check, and how much diskspace to leave free
[01:08] <zuixro> It was working fine before I upgraded to 10.04
[01:08] <Patrickdk> mine checks like every 15min, and leaves 20gigs free
[01:08] <zuixro> Ah, How do I run the config then?
[01:08] <Patrickdk> mine has been on 10.04 since it came out
[01:09] <Patrickdk> I think it's in the backend config
[01:09] <Patrickdk> mythtv-setup? or via the menu
[01:10] <zuixro> Alright I'll give it a try
[01:10] <zuixro> Any idea about the logouts?
[01:10] <Patrickdk> logouts?
[01:10] <zuixro> It happens more frequently when MythFrontend isn't running
[01:10] <zuixro> I get logged out ever 2 hours (almsot exactly)
[01:10] <Patrickdk> dunno, I have never been logged out, ever
[01:10] <Patrickdk> with or without mythfrontend running
[01:10] <Patrickdk> or systems that don't even have myth installed
[01:11] <zuixro> Yeah it's weird
[01:11] <Patrickdk> screensaver settings?
[01:11] <zuixro> Nope
[01:11] <Patrickdk> or, sleep/standby mode?
[01:11] <zuixro> And it's 2 hours regardless of what has happened, even during a recording
[01:11] <Patrickdk> sounds like a sleep mode, power savings turning on
[01:12] <Patrickdk> it wouldn't know if your recording or not
[01:13] <zuixro> I meant even if I'm using it, like watching a recording or changing a setting in the menu
[01:30] <zuixro> Patrickdk could you be referring to "File Management Settings"? Cause I can't find anything about minimum free space in there
[03:57] <Haywire> Dual booting Windoze Vista and Mythbuntu 10.04... When I first run mthtv, everything is fine...finds backend, stream tv, recorded tv all ok.. then I boot to windoze... It  "detects" something changed, and runs checkdisk, of course, finds no errors, and then proceeds to boot up fine... but after that, mythtv frontend fails to load, and I get a message of "No UPnP"  help1
[03:59] <Haywire> Both OS's seem to load o.k. - but I've reloaded MythTV twice, and I'm SURE windoze has changed something, I just cannot figure out what...
[09:24] <zoran119> can i run both front and backend on a livecd to test it out?
[14:44] <Zinn> [freenode.net] freenode: frequently-asked questions
[21:13] <pmcenery> Hi guys. is anyone working on autobuild packaging via the new git repository
[21:20] <mrand> pmcenery: yep, superm1 has been actively working on it.
[21:20] <superm1> with any luck, tonight's autobuilds should be git'ified
[21:20] <superm1> (knock on wood)
[21:21] <pmcenery> excellent. thanks.
[21:21] <superm1> pmcenery, additionally the code has been abstracted out, so you if you want to kick off your own build of master or fixes/0.24 with a collection of commits on your local tree, you can https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/master/deb/build-debs.sh
[21:21] <Zinn> [github.com] deb/build-debs.sh at master from MythTV's packaging - GitHub
[21:22] <superm1> as soon as I know autobuilds is working i'll try to document all of that so users can use it more easily
[21:23] <pmcenery> superm1: thanks. That is really cool. I often find this the easiest way to add a patch and test it. Its just not practical to have a source build on my system - even for testing
[21:24] <superm1> pmcenery, so there are two scripts there, build-deb.sh and build-dsc.sh
[21:24] <superm1> if you use build-dsc.sh it will generate source packages
[21:24] <superm1> which you can kick off into a pbuilder/sbuild/PPA and spit back debs if you dont want to litter your system with 400 megs of build-depend
[21:25] <pmcenery> superm1: very cool.


[00:01] <ogra-maemo> i'll set up a PPA next week,there we can prepare newer packages... currently i'm still a bit busy getting the images built in the datacenter though
[00:26] <persia> rhp: You can certainly apt-get install on a live image.  Be warned that you're limited in the size of our changes, because the overlay to the unionfs lives in tmpfs, so if you want a lot of changes, you'll want to do them to the image itself.
[00:37] <davidm> persia, do you mind if we have a catch up call sometime in the next couple of hours instead of tomorrow?  I'll be in Oregon and it might be easier for me tonight.
[07:43] <rhp> persia: clear enough. First things first, though. Without wifi I will not get very far. Any idea's why my nic is recognized as wired? In the 'regular' ubuntu releases I never had that problem.
[07:45] <persia> rhp: It's a different kernel.  I'm not sure why it reports it that way for you.  I'm finding some oddnesses with network interfaces as well.
[07:47] <rhp> Hm...
[07:47] <rhp> Since I broke my laptop on de mccaslin image last night, I figure I might as well install 8.10 on it. That opens the possibility to create my own image.
[07:48] <rhp> I'll be doing that tonight to see if I get any further.
[07:50] <persia> rhp: Good luck.  Did the mccaslin image not work?
[07:52] <rhp> As soon as I noticed it started screwing up my partition table I shut down the laptop in hopes of being able to restore it (but no)... after that I didn't try again. Might as well though, since it is broken anyway.
[07:54] <persia> Yeah.  It's broken now, but it ought have the mccaslin environment installed if you try again.  Sorry for that oddity: it's one of the big things that was changed for intrepid.
[07:55] <rhp> And rightly so...
[07:55] <rhp> Anyway, it gives me something to do tonight :)
[08:13]  * lool waves
[08:15] <persia> hey lool.
[08:31] <persia> lool: Do you know much about pygtk?  It seems to be FTBFS on several arches, including lpia, which is blocking a ubiquity build.  I've tried the last few versions uploaded, and they all seem to FTBFS.
[08:31] <persia> (at least for lpia)
[08:35] <lool> it built on i386
[08:35] <lool> It's just the Xvfb breakage again
[08:35] <persia> Is it?  It looked like API issues to me.
[08:35]  * persia looks again
[08:36] <lool> I looked at the amd64 build log
[08:36] <lool> It seems to die in the testsuite
[08:36] <lool> After some randr warnings
[08:36] <persia> Ah, yeah, you're right.  The things I thought were the cause are just warnings.
[08:36] <lool> I don't think we die if the ts fails, but it seems make gets confused
[08:38] <lool> Anyway, I bet seb128 is already looking into this
[08:39] <persia> OK.  It's beta-critical for -mid, as lpia can't be installed until ubiquity is built which can't happen until pygtk has the same version for -dev and lib.
[08:41] <persia> And indeed he is, judging by -devel :)
[08:54] <StevenK> Hmmm. Changing the policy of scrolling gives us 5 icons across not 4
[08:56] <persia> Let's do that, as it ought look nicer.
[08:56] <StevenK> I was planning on
[08:57] <persia> I currently have three.  Does that match you?
[08:57] <persia> I think maybe not.
[08:57] <StevenK> I'm on a Q1, mind
[08:57] <persia> That's 1024x600 isn't it?
[08:57] <persia> I'm getting three across by found down at 1024x600 with vesa-on-psb
[08:58] <persia> s/found/four/
[08:58] <StevenK> Yeah, 1024x600.
[08:58] <StevenK> I'm getting 5 across
[08:58] <persia> Is the text a little more squashed?  Does the same trick work for thunar as well?
[08:59] <crevette> heya
[08:59] <StevenK> No, the text looks okay
[09:00] <persia> In Thunar I'm getting 4x4.7 or so, but having 5 there as well would be nifty.
[09:00] <persia> Is the scroll policy thing kourou-specific, or a setting that ought apply more widely?
[09:03] <StevenK> Kourou specific
[09:03] <StevenK> It's a GTK-ism I wasn't calling
[09:04] <StevenK> persia: If you want to see, open kourou.py and add 'scrolled_win.set_policy(gtk.POLICY_NEVER, gtk.POLICY_AUTOMATIC)' below the 'scrolled_win = gtk.ScrolledWindow()' line
[09:04] <persia> I presume I ought restart kourou after?
[09:05] <StevenK> Right
[09:07] <persia> I still get 3x4 for Home, but no scrollbar.
[09:08] <persia> I get 3x4.2 for All, with a scrollbar
[09:08] <StevenK> There ought to be one?
[09:08] <StevenK> (For Home) ?
[09:10] <persia> There isn't one: no need to scroll.
[09:11] <persia> There was one before I changed the policy.
[09:12]  * persia is running today's image, so may be a few hours out of date, and has no working networking, despite a variety of devices that are intended to provide a network
[09:12] <StevenK> persia: That's the behavior I was intending
[09:13] <persia> Then it works, but I'm not seeing more icons.  I wonder if there's something funny about my resolution
[09:13]  * persia reads the logs
[09:15] <persia> Ah.  Vesa decided to use 800x600 for some reason.  That's the source of my problem.
[09:18] <StevenK> 800x600 still fitting 12 icons for Home makes me happy
[09:19] <persia> Yeah.  It's a nice bonus.  Personally, I'd like full resolution, but I'll settle for it not being broken :)
[09:35] <samjam> any plans for ubuntu mobile on arm eabi yet?
[09:39] <persia> samjam: It depends on Ubuntu generally.  Currently Ubuntu doesn't have any builds for armel.
[09:40] <samjam> thanks
[09:40] <persia> samjam: Unless the practice changes, you can probably expect to find a recompilation of intrepid for arm at mojo.handhelds.org sometime post-release, and you can see if the Ubuntu Mobile build works, but I don't think it's an explicit target for the mojo folk.
[09:40] <samjam> I didn't know that, thanks!
[09:42] <persia> samjam: No problem.  I've several arm devices myself :)
[09:42] <samjam> I see the Hasty ARMv5EL, I may have to try it. I'm using the HTC Universal, do you have one?
[09:43] <persia> samjam: Nope.  I've Zaurii and kuroboxen.
[09:45] <persia> (not that kuroboxen are "mobile" in the sense that they work whilst being moved, without heavy modification, but they are armel)
[09:55] <StevenK> Argh
[09:55] <persia> ?
[09:55]  * StevenK is getting defeated by GTK
[10:01] <StevenK> iconview.window.set_back_pixmap(...) gives AttributeError: NoneType object has no attribute
[10:01] <StevenK> So iconview.window == None, but why
[10:02] <lool> persia: I think I've uploaded a fixed pygtk
[10:03] <persia> lool: I see that, and am very excited.  I have a list of 10 FTBFS that I'd like solved pre-beta, and that's probably the most critical.  Thank you.
[12:05] <lool> persia: Dunno who will give back the pygtk FTBFSes
[12:05] <lool> ubiquity is still in the "Failed to build" state
[12:09] <persia> lool: There's another issue with ubiquity as well, as it also fails on i386.  I expect it will be reviewed in a few hours.
[12:33] <persia> My.  Repeatedly using a USB stick only as a target for dd results in some interesting partition maps.
[12:57] <lool> persia: synaptic accepted
[12:58] <persia> Hrm?  pygtk rdeps?
[13:04] <ogra> anyone with an opinion on bug 275299 here ?
[13:05]  * ogra changed the description for -mobile to:
[13:05] <ogra> Description: The Ubuntu mobile system
[13:05] <ogra>  This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu mobile system
[13:05] <ogra>  Ubuntu Mobile is an alternative to ubuntu-desktop, intended for use on
[13:05] <ogra>  Ultra Mobile PCs (UMPCs)
[13:05] <ogra> the description in the bug would make sense for -mid though i think
[13:06] <persia> No.  That's -mobile.
[13:06] <lool> persia: Err xf86-synaptic that is
[13:06]  * lool coffee &
[13:06] <persia> A "MID" is a special Intel word for the class of devices once known as "PDA", but with more RAM, processor, and local storage.
[13:06] <StevenK> The description in the bug does sound like mid-default-settings
[13:07] <persia> lool: Yeah.  That makes more sense :)  I've been playing with it all day: it's a lot easier to work on a device when the pointer can be controlled.
[13:08] <persia> I don't like listing storage there.  The only device I have with < 10G storage is 4 years old.
[13:09] <StevenK> And recommended memory? No.
[13:09] <StevenK> It should list the form-factor
[13:09] <persia> Right, and clearly differentiate the two.  As much as anything, it's about DPI: "How big is a finger?"
[13:09] <ogra> right, list touchscreen dependency and screen size
[13:09] <persia> -mobile works fine without a touchscreen.
[13:10] <ogra> but it is designed with focus on touchscreens
[13:10]  * persia tried it on the Kohjinsha, and ignored the miscalibrated touchscreen, and was very happy with the result
[13:10] <ogra> that will be more noticeable with jaunty though
[13:10] <ogra> where i.e. gksu will popup cellwriter automatically
[13:10] <ogra> and things like that
[13:10] <persia> Please don't make it not work with a touchpad, trackpoint, or mouse.  I *really* like having the simple, clean interface, but don't want to get fingerprints all over my screen.
[13:11] <persia> Oh, I'm fine with that, as long as it's done through the accessibility interfaces, and can be disabled by users with touchpads (e.g. Eee users).
[13:11] <StevenK> persia: Use your nose?
[13:11] <ogra> or your big toe :)
[13:11] <StevenK> Heh
[13:12] <ogra> though we'd have to lower the dpi for that i guess :P
[13:12] <persia> Bah.  *all* the lpia devices I own have perfectly functional synaptics touchpads.  I don't see why I shouldn't use them.
[13:12] <StevenK> I see a new standard. Toe-driven interfaces
[13:12] <ogra> yay
[13:12] <ogra> the new toe bluetooth keyboard ... at the size of a 37" Tv
[13:13] <ogra> handsfree computing :)
[13:13]  * persia can toe-type on 15" keyboard.
[13:13] <StevenK> ogra: 37 inches? That sounds more like a feet-driven interface
[13:14] <StevenK> And you get shifted keys by stomping
[13:14] <ogra> well, your toe or your heel :)
[13:14] <persia> I like that.  velocity sensitivity for alphanumeric keyboards.
[13:14] <ogra> persia, do we have a prper fix for the error 15 bug btw ?
[13:14] <ogra> hmm, and do we actually have a bug number ?
[13:14] <persia> ogra: Yes.  That's sorted.
[13:14] <ogra> ah
[13:14] <persia> Yes, and I closed it.
[13:14] <ogra> k, no number needed
[13:15] <persia> I actually opened *two* bugs, one for each flavour, but they turned out to be the same problem, so I dup'd them, and StevenK did the necessary adjustment to fix them.  If you build a mobile image somewhere sane, it will work.
[13:15] <ogra> good
[13:16] <StevenK> ogra: You need to put the kernel under casper
[13:16] <ogra> StevenK, yeah, i saw that, but wasnt aware thats enough for the installed system
[13:17] <persia> Yeah, it's a hardcoding in ubiquity.
[13:17] <ogra> ah, k
[13:18]  * persia fails again at using syslinux, and decides to wait for usb-creator to work
[13:19] <ogra> ?? its trivil to use ... you just need mtools installed and a syslinux.cfg in the root of the target fs
[13:20] <persia> Yeah.  I did that.  The result causes a loud beeping noise.
[13:22] <persia> My procedure was fdisk /dev/sdb; mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1; mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/mnt; cp -pRa /mnt/intrepid-desktop-i386/* /tmp/mnt; cp /mnt/ubuntu-mid/syslinux.cfg /tmp/mnt; umount /tmp/mnt; syslinux /dev/sdb1
[13:23] <ogra> ah
[13:23] <ogra> dont partition :)
[13:23] <ogra> syslinux doesnt work on partitions
[13:23] <persia> Just mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb ?
[13:24] <ogra> yeah
[13:24]  * persia tries again, but knows there is supposed to be an easy tool, and wants it to work
[13:40] <persia> ogra: Thanks.  I'm booting the desktop now.
[13:40]  * persia may do the same to sort out not being able to boot the ubuntu-mobile image
[13:57] <ogra> urgh
[13:58] <ogra> does midbrowser work for anyone with the latest upgrades ?
[13:58] <ogra> asac, ^^^
[13:58] <rabeeh2000> hi all,
[13:58] <rabeeh2000> i have been trying to build mobile-basic-flash to use xulrunner-1.9
[13:59] <rabeeh2000> i'v seen all the posts from asac and bob spenser that it's broken
[13:59] <rabeeh2000> but those posts are from April time frame I was wondering if someone has better clue  how to solve the issue?
[14:00] <rabeeh2000> basically what i'm seeing is a black window in hildon UI which is the home.html page; but afterwards nothing; as if the javascript: calls are not being executed.
[14:00] <persia> rabeeh2000: I don't think anyone was able to come up with a good solution.  For intrepid, m-b-f has mostly been replaced with kourou.
[14:00] <rabeeh2000> any tip would help. thanks
[14:00] <asac> ogra: what happens?
[14:01] <persia> Mind you, kourou doesn't support flash or xul, so it may not meet your needs.
[14:01] <ogra> asac, well, it coredumps pretty quietly if i run it from a termnal
[14:01] <StevenK> We tried to move m-b-f to xulrunner-1.9 for Hardy, and reverted it
[14:01] <persia> ogra: midbrowser hasn't worked for me in about a week.
[14:01] <rabeeh2000> persia: midbrowser works for me using xulrunner-1.9 (both x86 and ARM versions)
[14:01] <ogra> well, i just tried it for the first time after installing ubuntu-mobile on the Q1 and upgrading
[14:01] <persia> (but I've been fiddling with increasingly messy environments, so this may not be indicative)
[14:02] <ogra> its a fresh intrepid install fully up to date
[14:02] <persia> rabeeh2000: In the Ubuntu Mobile or Ubuntu MID intrepid development snapshots?
[14:02] <rabeeh2000> persia: ubuntu mobile from hardy
[14:03] <asac> ogra: just "core" ... or any other output?
[14:03] <persia> rabeeh2000: Yeah.  It works fine there.
[14:04] <ogra-Q1> ogra@ogra-Q1:~$ midbrowser
[14:04] <ogra-Q1> pure virtual method called
[14:04] <ogra-Q1> terminate called without an active exception
[14:04] <ogra-Q1> Aborted (core dumped)
[14:04] <ogra-Q1> ogra@ogra-Q1:~$
[14:07] <persia> ogra: Following your instructions gets me to an initramfs prompt, because casper can't find the right disk (it's not /dev/sda, and it's not /dev/scd0, but it's /dev/sdb).  Any suggestions?
[14:07] <ogra> hmm, note really (phonecall now)
[14:10] <persia> Oh well.  Thanks.
[14:25] <rabeeh2000> how can i launch kourou?
[14:25] <rabeeh2000> i just built it for hardy; how do i integrate it with hildon?
[14:47] <rabeeh2000> stevenk: sorry for buging you on this; but can you please provide a hint how to launch kourou? is it ready at all in demo level?
[14:47] <StevenK> rabeeh2000: You need to edit /etc/hildon-desktop/home.conf and home-layout.conf, replacing what's there with the path to kourou.desktop
[15:16] <ogra> persia, i dont get where you get the passwd/auto-login from ... its not documented anywhere
[15:17] <persia> It's in user-setup-apply in user-setup.  ubiquity processes it and flips the checkmark.  d-i is used as a prefix so it doesn't get included in the debconf DB on the installed system.
[15:19] <persia> It ends up doing a bunch of ugly sedery, but if you don't look at the implementation, it works pertty good.
[15:25] <persia> ogra: Hmm.  Looking at gdm, it doesn't seem to have much in the way of debconf questions.  Sorry.
[15:25] <persia> Maybe you could add one for jaunty?
[15:27] <ogra> wel, you said there is a checkbox somewhere for it
[15:27] <persia> No, I said there was a checkbox for automatic login.
[15:27] <ogra> ah, user-setip ...
[15:27] <ogra> i should read the backlog first :)
[15:27] <persia> I was looking for something for timed login.
[15:27] <persia> (or read my mind in this case, as I lost track of context)
[15:28] <ogra> it does timed login
[15:28] <ogra>                                 $log $chroot $ROOT sed -i \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         -e "s/^AutomaticLoginEnable=.*\$/AutomaticLoginEnable=true/" \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         -e "s/^AutomaticLogin=.*\$/AutomaticLogin=$USER/" \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         -e "s/^TimedLoginEnable=.*\$/TimedLoginEnable=true/" \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         -e "s/^TimedLogin=.*\$/TimedLogin=$USER/" \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         -e "s/^TimedLoginDelay=.*\$/TimedLoginDelay=10/" \
[15:28] <ogra>                                         "$GDMCONF"
[15:28] <ogra> great
[15:28] <ogra> no problem then
[15:28] <persia> Oh, cool.  preseed it then.
[15:29] <ogra> you should just have pointed me there and i wuld have kept quiet ;)
[15:30] <persia> I don't want you to be quiet.  It's generally too quiet here.  On the other hand, asking me from where something comes may be more useful than asking me about something.
[15:32] <ogra> yeah, 'ill try to ask more intelligently in the future
[15:33] <ogra> i see user-setup even has proper handling for gdm-cdd.conf now :)
[15:33] <persia> Cool!  I wasn't sure if it handled that, but if it does, you should be completely sorted.
[15:40] <ogra> geez
[15:40]  * ogra just closed all apps since the last upgrade and wasnt aware the default wallpaper had changed
[15:41] <persia> heh.
[15:52] <rabeeh2000> stevenk: tried changing home.conf and home-layout.conf, and also rebuilt hildon-desktop from interpid http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/hildon-desktop
[15:53] <rabeeh2000> stevenk: unfortunately this doesn't seem to be good enough; since m-b-f is still being launched
[15:53] <ogra> uninstall it
[16:48]  * persia has now successfully installed Ubuntu Desktop on a telephone.  For those watching at home: this is not what you want.
[17:04] <rabeeh2000> stevenk / ogra - so it works for me now; only few inputs -
[17:05] <rabeeh2000> 1. got a python backtrace on this -     bgcolour = gtk.gdk.Color("#000000")  --> unclear why python doesn't understand gtk.gdk.Color? gtk version?
[17:05] <rabeeh2000> 2. unclear why kourou needs - /usr/share/pdk/pixmaps/image-creator-32x32.xpm to run ?
[17:06] <rabeeh2000> 3. if using standard X-windows with a mouse then double click on any icon doesn't work.
[17:07] <rabeeh2000> and finally; thanks for saving the day :)
[17:07] <persia> rabeeh2000: #3 confuses me, as I have had just as much success with mice, touchpads, remote screen access (vnc), virtual mice, and touchscreens to launch applications.
[17:07] <persia> For #1, you're running this in intrepid, or backported to hardy?
[17:08]  * ogra guesses 2) is just a hardcoded path in the .desktop file (which is a big nono but wouldnt surprise me with MIC)
[17:08] <rabeeh2000> persia: for #1 it's a backport for hardy
[17:09] <rabeeh2000> persia: for #3, i'll check it right now with Xephyr
[17:09] <ogra> gtk.gdk.Color is there since ages
[17:09] <ogra> shouldnt be the issue
[17:09] <ogra> probably you need to import gdk separately in hardy
[17:11] <rabeeh2000> ogra: for #1; the error message - TypeError: an integer is required
[17:11] <rabeeh2000> ogra: i'll try doing that too. thanks for the tip
[17:11] <ogra> well, i think you need gtk.gdk.color_parse()
[17:12] <ogra> not sure though, i avent seen the kouru code but have a nearly identical app here
[17:12] <ogra> where i use the abov eline instead
[17:13] <persia> rabeeh2000: Might be a Xephyr thing, but it does work for me for intrepid for real HW and KVM.
[22:37] <ian_brasil> ogra: does accessibility work with the theme on ubuntu-mobile.img or didn't you try that


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[21:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2082 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination
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[06:58] <Shadowmancer> hey got an issue installing ubuntu, it gets to the "prepare partitions" section but it doesn't show any partitions
[06:59] <Shadowmancer> i run sudo partman to try and see what it see's but it can't see my local hdd
[06:59] <Shadowmancer> sudo blkid shows it, i can mount it, and its formatted as fat32 but nothing i do seems to get it to be seen
[07:19] <Akos> good morning team
[07:19] <zeroseven0183> Good afternoon, Akos. :-)
[07:19] <ddecator> morning Akos
[07:21] <Bodsda> Morning
[07:39] <shahan> hi everybody
[07:39] <shahan> good afternoon there
[07:39] <shahan> :)
[07:42] <Akos> hi shahan
[07:42] <shahan> Akos: hello
[08:06] <shahan> I want a good video editing software
[08:06] <shahan> in ubuntu 9.10
[08:07] <shahan> I will add Jpeg pictures and a music... And will create a Video
[08:07] <shahan> is there any easy but good software?
[10:09] <Seodanrot> Hello, I am new to ubuntu and when i updated to 9.10 I lost all my audio.   Anyone know why this might happen, or how to fix it?
[10:16] <Seodanrot> The internet isn't turning up much in the way of assistance
[10:33] <Quietstorm> me too,
[10:44] <Seodanrot> Anyone?
[10:49] <leoquant> try system: pref.: sound managment. choose alsa or open sound system
[10:49] <leoquant> (instead of pulseaudio)
[10:50] <leoquant> if you make alsa default install also alsamixergui
[10:54] <Seodanrot> I solved it but thanks anyways
[11:33] <duanedesign> hello ikt
[11:38] <ikt> heya duanedesign :)
[11:40] <duanedesign> ikt: you still doing some bug triage
[11:42] <ikt> a little bit every now and then, at the moment I've got a bunch of assignments that I need to finish and keep getting distracted from -_-
[11:42] <ikt> cleaning my room never looked so good
[11:51] <duanedesign> :)
[13:43] <ibuclaw> welcome kermiac :)
[13:44] <ibuclaw> love to stay and chat, but have just noticed the time...
[13:44] <ibuclaw> bye!
[16:00] <bodhi_zazen> Happy monday
[16:02] <ibuclaw> Happy non-tuesday
[16:05] <starcraftman> morning bodhi_zazen
[16:05] <starcraftman> and ibuclaw
[16:05] <ibuclaw> welcome back starcraftman
[16:05] <starcraftman> tuesdays suck, thursdays are where its at. Had my favourite programming classes that night for two semesters :)
[16:06] <starcraftman> ibuclaw: ty, just got back from champions brunch. 3 french toast with grade a maple syrup and 2 beef saussage. Mmmm
[16:17] <ibuclaw> maple syrup and meat... haven't had that combination in a while...
[16:41] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo starcraftman , how goes ?
[16:41] <starcraftman> bodhi_zazen: much better now that stressful semesters over and I got everything sorted.
[16:41] <bodhi_zazen> sweet =)
[16:42] <starcraftman> well... except stupid ubuntu 1, it hates me.
[16:42] <hobgoblin> hi there starcraftman - good to see you about again :)
[16:43] <LzrdKing> well, i was able to force my ubuntu server box to eventually mount my nfs shares before any apps that try to access them start, but it feels wrong, as i get errors about the mount failing during startup.  I think its apparmor thats calling a mountall which gets called before the wireless network script, so maybe i can call wicd or my own network script as a prereq for apparmor
[16:44] <hobgoblin> LzrdKing: I get mountall errors all the time with nfs = once it has booted though all is fine
[16:44] <starcraftman> hobgoblin: ah ha, piskie, why hobgoblin? Inner spiderman fan coming out?
[16:44] <bodhi_zazen> bug report ?
[16:44] <hobgoblin> though I rarely see them LzrdKing when plymouth is working (lucid)
[16:44] <hobgoblin> starcraftman: I is mischievous now :)
[16:44] <LzrdKing> i just don;t want to see the errors on startup
[16:44] <LzrdKing> whats plymouth?
[16:45] <shahan> hello everybody
[16:45] <starcraftman> hobgoblin: only now?
[16:45]  * starcraftman waves to shahan
[16:46] <hobgoblin> LzrdKing: all tied up with the boot in lucid - upstart as well I believe
[16:46] <shahan> starcraftman: what?
[16:46] <hobgoblin> starcraftman: not only now - now I say so before I start :)
[16:46] <LzrdKing> oh. plymouth is the graphical boot thingy, right?
[16:46] <starcraftman> shahan: just waving hi.
[16:47] <starcraftman> hobgoblin: hehe, lil warning alright. :)
[16:47] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[16:47] <shahan> starcraftman: so.. I need some help about video editing
[16:47] <shahan> starcraftman: who can help me?
[16:48] <shahan> starcraftman: in ubuntu 9.10
[16:48] <hobgoblin> LzrdKing: yea - but it is more than just the graphics - anyway - what I was saying is that I get mountall errors from nfs - but they are sorted by the time boot has finished
[16:48] <starcraftman> shahan: I dunno, what kind of help? Looking for a program or need in depth guide? I knows some.
[16:48] <LzrdKing> i wonder if mine are sorted out before or after the automatic user login; i should test that out
[16:48] <hobgoblin> had the same thing with karmic when it was in alpha - there some bug reports for it
[16:48] <LzrdKing> hobgoblin: i won't be going to lucid for a while yet
[16:49] <hobgoblin> I think it is before the login
[16:49] <shahan> starcraftman: I am using kdenlinve for editing video
[16:49] <shahan> starcraftman: I was used to Adobe premier in Windows XP
[16:50] <shahan> starcraftman: is there any kdenlive FX facility for kdenlive in ubuntu ?
[16:53] <starcraftman> shahan: just had to reinstall to remember, effects under timeline > video. If your used to premiere, well don't think you'll find any app quite that powerful. Though all ours get the job done usually.
[16:54] <shahan> starcraftman: ok.. let me check
[16:55] <starcraftman> shahan: seen their nice tutorials? http://kdenlive.org/tutorial
[16:55] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[16:56] <starcraftman> shahan: np, hehe, back one day and already answering questions once more!
[16:56] <LzrdKing> hobgoblin: either way, i don't like seeing errors and i don't like that i have a manual script that calls iwconfig and dhclient, i have info in /etc/network/interfaces, and i have wicd running; i should only need to use one of them
[17:09] <shahan> starcraftman: kdenlive is making problem on ubuntu 9.10
[17:09] <shahan> starcraftman: GNOME
[17:09] <shahan> starcraftman: may be as its a for KDE :(
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman:  its become Freeze
[17:10] <shahan> starcraftman: which software I can use for .... :)
[17:12] <starcraftman> shahan: hmmm, for the record it shouldn't be problem running kde apps on gnome, installs all the dependencies.
[17:12] <shahan> starcraftman: do u hve any idea?
[17:12] <starcraftman> shahan: Did it only freeze once you started editting? At a particular time?
[17:12] <shahan> starcraftman: no...
[17:12] <shahan> starcraftman:  not in any particular time
[17:13] <shahan> starcraftman: do u use Teamviewer?
[17:13] <shahan> starcraftman: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[17:14] <starcraftman> shahan: I'm not a professional video editor, just done a lil bit on amateur stuff. There's alternatives to kdenlive here > http://linuxappfinder.com/multimedia/videoeditors
[17:15] <shahan> starcraftman: I am not a professional editor too... but I need to make some JPEG file gathered and a audio music, then some FX
[17:15] <starcraftman> shahan: and nope, not used teamviewer. If all you need is quick remote access to pcs you do know there are plenty of free solutions right?
[17:16] <shahan> starcraftman: yes... its free I provided the link
[17:18] <shahan> starcraftman: which soft. is famous for ubuntu remote viewing?
[17:20] <starcraftman> shahan: famous? Hehe, it ain't a rock concert. Lot of folks use vnc protocol, often getting a solution that uses that.  Few listings > http://linuxappfinder.com/internetandnetworking/remoteaccess
[17:21] <shahan> starcraftman: mm
[17:21] <shahan> starcraftman: I think TeamViewer is best
[17:21] <starcraftman> app finder a nice site for record. Maybe try tightvnc, know a few folks used that.
[17:22] <shahan> starcraftman: it has Windows, Linux, Mac platform
[17:22] <shahan> starcraftman: easy to use
[17:22] <shahan> starcraftman:  let a install it... then let check
[17:22] <shahan> starcraftman: do u wanna test it?
[17:23] <starcraftman> shahan: not really, don't need remote access to any pcs. I'm not too on the go, when I am its all on my notebook.
[17:24] <shahan> starcraftman: I am looking for a guy to test it
[17:25] <starcraftman> shahan: ah well gotta say so, lemme see. I'll go try and install it.
[17:25] <shahan> starcraftman: will u install it now?
[17:26] <shahan> starcraftman: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[17:26] <starcraftman> shahan: sure, takes a few secs. I'll tell ya when ready.
[17:27] <shahan> starcraftman: http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx?os=linux
[17:28] <ikt> starcraftman is back?
[17:28] <ibuclaw> 60,000,000 users... that is a bold claim ( and probably a false one :)
[17:28] <ibuclaw> ikt, no, he is here in spirit. ;)
[17:29] <ikt> ah ok
[17:29] <ibuclaw> ghost in the zshell
[17:29] <LzrdKing> i think vnc over ssh is the best
[17:29] <shahan> starcraftman: :)
[17:30] <shahan> starcraftman: :-)
[17:30] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: who has 60 million users?
[17:30] <ibuclaw> teamviewer
[17:30] <ikt> yeah nah
[17:30] <starcraftman> ikt: no, it's paultag impersonating the great starcraftman!
[17:30] <ibuclaw> starcraftman, lies! paultag would never call starcraftman great
[17:31] <LzrdKing> maybe they have had 60 million downloads
[17:31] <starcraftman> ibuclaw: Awwwwwwwwwwwwww
[17:31] <starcraftman> ibuclaw: Oh right, ..... the greatest! :D
[17:31] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, maybe ... but we if we used that logic for Ubuntu...
[17:31] <shahan> starcraftman: r u ready mr...
[17:32] <LzrdKing> lets do it
[17:32] <ibuclaw> then again, Canonical boast that they have it pinned at about 46Million users.
[17:32] <LzrdKing> a trillion users!
[17:32] <ibuclaw> Up from 20 Million when 8.04 was released
[17:33] <starcraftman> shahan: aye, I got it ready. pm me ur id.
[17:34] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, have you tried vnc over ssh using a Web Browser as the client ?
[17:34] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: no, just a vnc client as a vnc client
[17:34] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=541656
[17:39] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: i don't need to use a webclient :) thanks
[17:43] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: is tightvnc special in binding to port 580x as well, or do all vnc servers do that?
[17:43] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, afaik - all servers do that by default - but it can be configured otherwise
[17:44] <ibuclaw> just as ssh defaults to 22, but can be changed in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[17:51] <paultag> heyya starcraftman
[17:51] <shahan> starcraftman: hi
[17:51]  * starcraftman waves hi to paultag
[17:51] <paultag> starcraftman, how's college ?
[17:53] <starcraftman> paultag: its university and better, second semester over and I aced all my finals I think though it took a boat load of studying. Now just unwinding. Done quite a bit programming this semester.
[17:53] <paultag> starcraftman, kickass :)
[17:53] <paultag> heyya komputes
[17:53] <starcraftman> shahan: see http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php < Search for ubuntu instructions
[17:53] <starcraftman> should work
[17:54] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[17:54] <starcraftman> paultag: aye, I especially like perl, quirky language. Learned it in my soen 287 class, web intro. Teacher got us using it for cgi programming.
[17:54] <paultag> Nice starcraftman
[17:54] <paultag> starcraftman, don't forget about us after you become an uberhacker :)
[17:56] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: it seems not to wrk :P
[17:56] <starcraftman> paultag: lol, I aren't that good..... yet.
[17:56] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, ^-^#
[17:56] <paultag> starcraftman, :P
[17:56] <ibuclaw> always worked for me
[17:56] <ibuclaw> check your firewall
[17:56] <LzrdKing> oh, i think i need tightvnc-java
[17:57] <LzrdKing> not a firewall issue, i'm tunneling over ssh
[17:57] <shahan> for all x86 (full working on 32 and 64 bits), by Paolo Rampino: (Replace 'YOURVERSION' with 'hardy', 'intrepid', 'jaunty', 'karmic' or 'lucid' depending on your release)  deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-YOURVERSION main
[17:57] <shahan> starcraftman: deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-YOURVERSION main
[17:57] <shahan> starcraftman: what I will it?
[17:58] <shahan> starcraftman: I got it in http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[17:58] <LzrdKing> ohhh wait
[17:58] <paultag> shahan, lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
[17:58] <starcraftman> paultag: I'm just a lil sad my favourite songbird now kinda floundering on linux, dropped official support and someone forked em.  I dont understant
[17:58] <shahan> starcraftman:  I m not an expert user
[17:59] <paultag> shahan, run this command: lsb_release -c | awk '{print $2}'
[17:59] <paultag> shahan, that is what you have to put in there
[17:59] <shahan> paultag: its karmic
[17:59] <paultag> then put karmic in
[17:59] <shahan> karmic
[17:59] <ibuclaw> paultag, or just ask him to run lsb_release -c, and put in what is in the second column. ;_
[17:59] <ibuclaw> ;)
[18:00] <paultag> ibuclaw, that's too confusing
[18:00] <paultag> ibuclaw, :P
[18:00] <starcraftman> hehe
[18:00] <ibuclaw> paultag, and awk '{print $2}'; isn't ?
[18:00] <paultag> ibuclaw, not when you are copy+pasting
[18:00] <starcraftman> hmmm, anyone using latest lucid builds?
[18:00] <paultag> starcraftman, me
[18:00] <paultag> starcraftman, on it for my netbook and main box
[18:01] <LzrdKing> how do i fix the S and K numbers in /etc/rc#.d/ when insserver rewrote them all sequensially? instead of S10xxx S40xxx, S80xxx, i have S01xxx, S02xxx, S03xxxx
[18:01] <ibuclaw> paultag, true... did you see my command for controlling Laptop backlight via dbus ?
[18:01] <starcraftman> paultag: you use u1?
[18:01] <paultag> ibuclaw, no but it must be sweet
[18:01] <shahan> paultag: deb http://akirad.cinelerra.org akirad-karmic main
[18:01] <ibuclaw> paultag, bash -c "dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_backlight org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel.SetBrightness int32:$(expr $(dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=org.freedesktop.Hal /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_backlight org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.LaptopPanel.GetBrightness | awk 'NR==2{print $2}') + 1)"
[18:01] <shahan> paultag: where I will put this?
[18:01] <paultag> starcraftman, kinda sorta. Still working on getting couchdb to play nice
[18:01] <paultag> ibuclaw, SICK
[18:01] <paultag> ibuclaw, and -1 for dim ?
[18:02] <ibuclaw> paultag, yepo
[18:02] <paultag> ibuclaw, sick, I love it
[18:02] <starcraftman> paultag: I dunno if it is just me but ubuntu one is crashing on startup on my new clean install on notebook. Current version isn't broken right?
[18:02] <ibuclaw> paultag, it has been tweaked to work in openbox's rc.xml config
[18:02] <paultag> starcraftman, is it a couch db failure?
[18:02] <paultag> ibuclaw, :)
[18:02] <shahan> paultag: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  isnt it?
[18:03] <paultag> shahan, ah, yes
[18:03] <paultag> BRB
[18:03] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: on the particular machine, i'm using gnome's vnc (vino? vinagre?) does that do java?
[18:03] <starcraftman> paultag: moment, I'll look at log.
[18:03] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, you are supposed to connect via Firefox / any web Browser...
[18:04] <LzrdKing> ibuclaw: yeah, but the server end is gnomes vnc server
[18:05] <ibuclaw> LzrdKing, apparently not then. =)
[18:05] <LzrdKing> :(
[18:06] <ibuclaw> afaik, tightvnc-java is the only one which does it
[18:06] <LzrdKing> meh
[18:08] <starcraftman> paultag: fiddled a bit, that does seem to be the error. Says desktopcouch replication api not found.
[18:09] <starcraftman> shahan: got cinilerra working or no?
[18:09] <shahan> paultag: now how to install
[18:09] <shahan> starcraftman: now how to install
[18:09] <starcraftman> shahan: did you add it to your sources file?
[18:10] <shahan> starcraftman: yes
[18:10] <starcraftman> shahan: then in a terminal do: sudo apt-get update && aptitude search cinelerra
[18:11] <starcraftman> you should be able to see some cinelerra packages. Install main one by: sudo apt-get install packagename
[18:11] <shahan> starcraftman: "99% [Connecting to akirad.cinelerra.org (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  "
[18:11] <shahan> starcraftman: then it doesnt go forward
[18:12] <shahan> starcraftman:  waitting for a long time
[18:12] <LzrdKing> how do i fix the S and K numbers in /etc/rc#.d/ when insserver rewrote them all sequensially? instead of S10xxx S40xxx, S80xxx, i have S01xxx, S02xxx, S03xxxx
[18:12] <starcraftman> oh no, hmmm, maybe their server is slow?
[18:12] <starcraftman> moment
[18:13] <starcraftman> shahan: well thats dissapointing, the server is down.
[18:13] <shahan> starcraftman: what to do now?
[18:13] <shahan> starcraftman: :(
[18:13] <shahan> oh god
[18:14] <starcraftman> shahan: hmmm, thinking
[18:15] <shahan> starcraftman: please give me a solution
[18:15] <shahan> starcraftman: I dont want to switch in Windows
[18:16] <shahan> going to take supper
[18:16] <shahan> hope will get a solution
[18:16] <shahan> coming back within 10 mins
[18:24] <starcraftman> shahan: rgr, well I guess since cinelerra out next best is the ol standbys. Run in terminal when your back: sudo apt-get install kino avidemux avidemux-plugins
[18:25] <starcraftman> shahan: one or the other should be enough for a lil project, not the best editors. I'm not sure why cinelerra's server down, maybe maintenance
[18:30] <shahan> back
[18:30] <starcraftman> shahan: rgr, try above
[18:31] <shahan> sudo apt-get install kino avidemux avidemux-plugins
[18:31] <shahan> rgr?
[18:31] <shahan> starcraftman: rgr?
[18:31] <shahan> starcraftman:  I am a new user... for this I dont understand the terms uses in ubuntu
[18:31] <starcraftman> roger, english thing
[18:32] <starcraftman> yup, use that in a terminal, then just try each out on own.
[18:34] <shahan> starcraftman: downloading
[18:34] <shahan> sudo apt-get install kino avidemux avidemux-plugins
[18:34] <shahan> starcraftman: what is avidemux?
[18:34] <starcraftman> kino and avidemux are two different editors
[18:35] <shahan> starcraftman: that is .. I am installing two editors once?
[18:36] <starcraftman> shahan: yup, you can install as many things as you like at once with linux.
[18:37] <shahan> starcraftman: hmm
[18:38] <starcraftman> shahan: if you need irc tips and questions see nhandler, I aren't really biggest expert.
[18:39] <shahan> starcraftman: where is nhandler?
[18:39] <starcraftman> shahan: been quiet, I guess busy.
[18:40] <starcraftman> shahan: also, since your new. Here is a good guide on understanding installation. It's a bit long but you'll be a pro when done reading. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[18:40] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[18:40] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx a lot
[18:41] <shahan> starcraftman: my speed is now too porr
[18:41] <shahan> poor
[18:41] <shahan> starcraftman: downloading speed is only 6-7 KBps
[18:41] <shahan> :(
[18:41] <shahan> starcraftman: only 28% completed
[18:42] <shahan> starcraftman: the download
[18:42] <starcraftman> shahan: awww, I can't magically fix slow net connections sadly. I'd upgrade mine too.
[18:42] <starcraftman> shahan: also, you don't have to refer to me boss, I'm just a comp sci student at University. Not a bit honcho yet.
[18:43] <shahan> starcraftman: hahaha
[18:43] <dvz-> starcraftman, I like the "yet" qualifier.
[18:43] <shahan> starcraftman: hmm
[18:44] <starcraftman> dvz-: Hehehehe :D
[18:44] <starcraftman> Hello there dvz-
[18:44] <dvz-> starcraftman, how are ye mate?
[18:45] <starcraftman> dvz-: Much better now that semester is over and I am back to hanging out with my favourite team :)
[18:45] <dvz-> good to hear
[18:45] <starcraftman> dvz-: just handling a few registration things atm and helping shahan out. And ubuntu one hates me.
[18:47] <starcraftman> shahan: hehe curious guy I like that. First question: You get an ubuntu.com email if your an official member > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[18:48] <starcraftman> shahan: second question: plus sign means we are voiced, full members of the team.
[18:48] <dvz-> <--- not positive anymore :\
[18:48] <shahan> starcraftman: If I wanna be a member.... what I have to do?
[18:48] <starcraftman> shahan: of ubuntu or the team?
[18:49] <shahan> starcraftman: just want a @ubuntu.com address :)
[18:49] <shahan> starcraftman: any how
[18:49] <starcraftman> shahan: hehehe, well it takes a long while to be an ubuntu member, read the page above.
[18:50] <dvz-> shahan, it took me well over 1 year to get my @ubuntu email
[18:50] <shahan> starcraftman: yes.. I am reading
[18:50] <starcraftman> shahan: not a short term thing, takes 6+ months of sustained contribution to community.
[18:52] <shahan> starcraftman: hmm
[18:52] <shahan> starcraftman: understand
[18:53] <shahan> my download finished 58%
[18:53] <shahan> starcraftman: r u liable to give support ?
[18:53] <shahan> starcraftman: to the users?
[18:53] <shahan> starcraftman: bound?
[18:54] <starcraftman> shahan: liable? No. I can say go read the manual and ignore you. Course I don't do that.
[18:55] <shahan> starcraftman: :-)
[18:55] <dvz-> shahan, i prefer rtfm over rtm
[18:55] <starcraftman> dvz-: lol
[18:55] <shahan> dvz-: rtmf? rtm?
[18:55] <shahan> dvz-: what kind of things these are?
[18:56] <dvz-> shahan, those are acronyms for:  rtfm => "Read the F'n Manual" ...and rtm => "Read The Manual"
[18:56] <dvz-> shahan, I'm just being silly.
[18:57] <shahan> dvz-: what is F'n manual?
[18:57] <starcraftman> shahan: hehe, you'll find lots of those around, us NA people are lazy typists :p
[18:57] <dvz-> shahan, F'n is vulgar language....I'm not eligible to say it here...o
[18:57] <shahan> starcraftman: 73% finished
[18:58] <starcraftman> shahan: rgr, it gets there.
[18:59] <shahan> dvz-: ok....
[18:59] <dvz-> :D
[18:59] <shahan> I am so happy to get such a good support from the ubuntu community
[18:59] <shahan> starcraftman: hey
[18:59] <LzrdKing> how do i fix the S and K numbers in /etc/rc#.d/ when insserver rewrote them all sequentially? instead of S10xxx S40xxx, S80xxx, i have S01xxx, S02xxx, S03xxxx
[18:59] <dvz-> if only microsoft access and vba had the same "good" support.
[18:59] <dvz-> meh.
[19:00] <shahan> starcraftman:  there are a lot of guys online with + sign
[19:00] <starcraftman> shahan: aye, we are big team.
[19:00] <shahan> starcraftman: but none is responding.... why?
[19:00] <shahan> starcraftman: only you and dvz-
[19:00] <shahan> :(
[19:01] <starcraftman> shahan: well IRC isn't like IM lot of people sign in, but get busy during the day.
[19:01] <shahan> hmm
[19:01] <starcraftman> I just happen to be one of the super friendly/talkative folks :)
[19:01] <shahan> starcraftman: when I come in http://webchat.freenode.net
[19:02] <shahan> starcraftman: I write my name and channel name
[19:02] <shahan> starcraftman: but below I get a check box
[19:03] <shahan> starcraftman:  If I check its ask for password
[19:03] <shahan> starcraftman: what is this?
[19:03] <shahan> the box is "Auto to service"
[19:04] <shahan> starcraftman: the box is "Auto to service"\
[19:04] <starcraftman> shahan: ah, I believe that is authentication. You can register your nick on IRC so noone can impersonate you or take your name.
[19:04] <starcraftman> Otherwise after you log out someone else can use it.
[19:04] <WikiNinja> :)
[19:04]  * WikiNinja sneaks around in the night.
[19:04] <starcraftman> hehe
[19:04] <shahan> starcraftman: how to do the register?
[19:05] <shahan> registration
[19:05] <starcraftman> shahan: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[19:05] <shahan> starcraftman: you changed the name?
[19:05] <starcraftman> ^ See user registration section.
[19:05] <starcraftman> shahan: aye, that's the /nick command.
[19:06] <shahan> starcraftman: yes. I know ....
[19:09] <Rahi> ok
[19:09] <Rahi> starcraftman: is shahan
[19:09] <starcraftman> Rahi: once you settle on a name register it as the commands do on the faq page, requires email verification
[19:09] <starcraftman> then you pick a password.
[19:12] <Rahi> starcraftman: process successful
[19:12] <shahan> hi
[19:13] <shahan> starcraftman: h
[19:13] <Rahi> hi
[19:13] <starcraftman> Rahi: ok, well just start up kino or avidemux and test it out
[19:16] <shahan> starcraftman: hi
[19:16] <starcraftman> shahan: don't have to keep saying hi, I don't forget your there :)
[19:16] <shahan> starcraftman: ok
[19:16] <shahan> starcraftman: I have registered with Rahi
[19:16] <shahan> starcraftman: Rahi
[19:17] <starcraftman> shahan: as you like.
[19:17] <shahan> starcraftman: but using the nick shahan
[19:17] <shahan> starcraftman: now is it possible to use "shahan" by othere?
[19:18] <shahan> I am not realizing the matter
[19:18] <shahan> I dont know ....
[19:19] <starcraftman> shahan: see step 4 in the user registration, you can group as many nicks as you want to registered ones
[19:19] <shahan> starcraftman: I lost it
[19:19] <shahan> starcraftman: give me the link again
[19:20] <starcraftman> shahan: just scroll up, irc keeps history :)
[19:20] <shahan> starcraftman:  I closed the window
[19:20] <shahan> starcraftman: now everything lost
[19:20] <starcraftman> ah right
[19:20] <starcraftman>  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[19:21] <starcraftman> shahan: also, you should consider using an IRC client like quassel on KDE or xchat on GNOME. These store logs between sessions.
[19:22] <LzrdKing> does irssi?
[19:24] <starcraftman> LzrdKing: ask and ye shall know > http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup#c8
[19:24] <starcraftman> :)
[19:25] <shahan> starcraftman: installing xchat
[19:25] <shahan> starcraftman: kino installaino finished
[19:25] <starcraftman> shahan: rgr, look in multimedia menu then and launch it
[19:29] <shahan> starcraftman: I am trying with kino
[19:29] <shahan> starcraftman: but dont like avidmuz
[19:29] <shahan> avidemux
[19:30] <shahan> want to remove it
[19:30] <starcraftman> shahan: sudo apt-get remove avidemux :)
[19:30] <shahan> pluging both
[19:30] <starcraftman> shahan: also, do consider reading guide I linked you. Good read.http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500020
[19:31] <shahan> starcraftman: give me the code again like sudo apt-get install kino avidemux pluging(forget the lastone)
[19:32] <starcraftman> shahan: you don't need to reinstall, the command I just gave only removes avidemux.
[19:32] <starcraftman> Kino is still there
[19:32] <shahan> I know ...
[19:32] <shahan> starcraftman: need the avidemux removing
[19:33] <shahan> starcraftman: avidemux plugin which I installed to remove
[19:33] <starcraftman> shahan: ah, well sudo apt-get install kino avidemux avidemux-plugins < That was install, so add avidemux-plugins to remove command.
[19:34] <shahan> starcraftman: tnx
[19:37] <starcraftman> shahan: np
[19:37] <shahan> starcraftman: removed
[19:37] <shahan> starcraftman: trying in xchat
[19:37] <shahan> starcraftman: do u use xchat?
[19:38] <starcraftman> shahan: used to, I r kde now, using quassel
[19:38] <starcraftman> nice alternative, does the same thing though
[19:38] <shahan> starcraftman: how do use it?
[19:39] <shahan> please configure my xchat
[19:39] <pedro3005> hey starcraftman
[19:40] <starcraftman> ah darn, where's bodhispage
[19:40] <shahan> come on teamviewer
[19:40] <shahan> starcraftman: please
[19:40] <starcraftman> shahan: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/xchat-customizations/
[19:41] <starcraftman> pedro3005: that's "hey starcraft.man the greatest ever has returned" to you! :p
[19:41] <shahan> starcraftman: it asks for Network
[19:41] <shahan> starcraftman: which Network I will select from XChat
[19:41] <shahan> ?
[19:41] <starcraftman> shahan: ahhh, right, the network configs
[19:42] <pedro3005> starcraftman, I thought you were dead, the party was all set up and everything
[19:42] <pedro3005> damn you
[19:42] <starcraftman> shahan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[19:42] <starcraftman> pedro3005: starcraft.man : runing funerals since 1987
[19:43] <starcraftman> pedro3005: Though if you want to hold it and don't mind me eating half the food I'm all for it :)
[19:43] <pedro3005> hm... well, ok, but you better be dead by the end of it
[19:45] <starcraftman> pedro3005: what? NEVER! I have to live, to spread mirth and whimzy, and plug "Grade A Canadian syrup produced by Habitant in Quebec" at every moment. :)
[19:45] <starcraftman> pedro3005: I do hope syrup was prominent at funeral right?
[19:46] <pedro3005> not at all
[19:47] <pedro3005> there's a guy in Quebec named Habitant who makes syrup?
[19:48] <bodhi_zazen> shahan_ use Freenode (in network)
[19:48] <shahan_> starcraftman, hi
[19:48] <shahan_> starcraftman, I am back
[19:49] <shahan_> bodhi_zazen, what?
[19:49] <starcraftman> pedro3005: hehe, a company, and they make a lot of it :)
[19:49] <pedro3005> starcraftman, anyway, saw my PM? *evil grin*
[19:49] <starcraftman> hi bodhi_zazen!
[19:49] <shahan_> using XChat
[19:49] <bodhi_zazen> shahan: shahan>	starcraftman: which Network I will select from XChat
[19:49] <shahan_> starcraftman, new experience
[19:49] <bodhi_zazen> in network, use Freenode
[19:49] <bodhi_zazen> wb starcraftman
[19:50] <shahan_> bodhi_zazen, FreeNode
[19:50] <starcraftman> Yar, tis good.
[19:50] <bodhi_zazen> sure
[19:50] <starcraftman> pedro3005: and no, send again?
[19:50] <shahan_> ...
[19:51] <pedro3005> oh damn... I don't think I have it anymore
[19:51] <shahan_> however
[19:51] <shahan_> I am getting sleep
[19:51] <shahan_> may be have to leave now
[19:51] <shahan_> made a lot of experiment today with the help of starcraftman
[19:52] <shahan_> pleased to starcraftman
[19:52] <starcraftman> shahan_: little bit every day, no rush, I'm hungry, snack time
[19:52] <starcraftman> later shahan_
[19:53] <shahan_> starcraftman, ok
[19:53] <shahan_> starcraftman, Good Night
[19:53] <shahan_> its 12:53AM there
[19:53] <shahan_> starcraftman, may be its 1:53 PM in Canada
[19:54] <shahan_> bye
[19:55] <pedro3005> starcraftman, it's a pm on UF.. sure you didn't receive it?
[20:07] <starcraftman> pedro3005: oh ha, the acat thing hehe, I thought ya meant on irc
[20:16] <pedro3005> yep
[20:17] <starcraftman> aww, floppy is gone, sony stopped production.
[20:17] <starcraftman> So many memories.
[20:17] <pedro3005> what's floppy?
[20:18] <starcraftman> lol, you say that in gest but a guy in my sys hardware said that and wasn't kidding! Made me feel old.
[20:18] <pedro3005> I really don't know what is floppy
[20:19] <pedro3005> oh wait
[20:19] <pedro3005> erm
[20:19] <malev> pedro3005, diskettes!
[20:19] <starcraftman> hehehe, good ol' a drive from dos days. :)
[20:20] <starcraftman> I still got like 50 in a nice box.
[20:20] <pedro3005> well, you should've put it in plural, it confused me!
[20:20] <geirha> 1440 juicy kibibytes
[20:20] <pedro3005> see how good grammar is necessary?
[20:21] <geirha> Maybe I should buy some, and sell them to a museum when I'm old.
[20:21] <pedro3005> I have some
[20:21] <pedro3005> used them recently, in fact
[20:21] <starcraftman> geirha: hahaha, ya, as if they'll ever be worth millions :p Not exactly art.
[20:22] <pedro3005> I burned a linux distro to two floppies and installed it - oh yeah
[20:23] <starcraftman> pedro3005: YES! I heard about a few of those distros fitting on floppies, ftw!
[20:24] <geirha> Tom's Root Boot!
[20:28] <pedro3005> starcraftman, yo, what's wrong with http://paste.pocoo.org/show/206231/ (don't laugh) ?
[20:33] <geirha> You never set untrue back to 0
[20:34] <geirha> What it's supposed to do eludes me though :)
[20:34] <starcraftman> pedro3005: aye, I was eating muffin, you made an infinite loop and you don't do anything if it is ==1 (may or may not be desired).
[20:37] <pedro3005> geirha, thank you... (if you wish to know, find a number divisible by [1, 20]
[20:40] <geirha> pedro3005: Ah, no it makes sense :)
[20:40] <geirha> s/no/now/
[20:41] <geirha> so resetting it before the for-loop should do the trick.
[20:41] <pedro3005> it did
[20:54] <starcraftman> hi komputes :)
[20:54] <starcraftman> mmm, chocolate muffin is awesome
[20:56] <komputes> starcraftman: hey, looks who's back -  i think people were asking questions during your absence
[20:57] <starcraftman> komputes: aye, darn pedro3005 planning a funeral and not inviting me of all people, what a jerk! :p


[04:56] <BinnyHill> How is it that a kernel module that was not there priorly just appears on a system?
[07:35] <infinity> zequence_: You around?
[09:06] <infinity> zequence_: Will pay big money for you to quickly smoketest your kernels from the last cycle.
[09:15] <slangasek> apw: bug #1324028
[14:04] <bullgard4> Is there a difference between »kernel configuration option« and »kernel command line option«?
[14:45] <apw> bullgard4, yes ... "kernel configuration option" == CONFIG_FOO type options which are options we set when we build a kernel from source; a kernel command line option is something you supply to the kernel on boot and can change on each boot
[15:18] <bullgard4> apw: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining and your help.
[16:39] <lamont> every 2 seconds, I get this on my trusty box:
[16:39] <lamont> May 28 10:33:35 kailan kernel: [503122.916681] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.SMBR] (Node ffff88007c352f28), AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP (20131115/psparse-536)
[16:39] <lamont> May 28 10:33:35 kailan kernel: [503122.916712] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.INIT] (Node ffff88007c352f00), AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP (20131115/psparse-536)
[16:39] <lamont> May 28 10:33:35 kailan kernel: [503122.916730] ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_GPE._L00] (Node ffff88007c34c2d0), AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP (20131115/psparse-536)
[16:39] <lamont> May 28 10:33:35 kailan kernel: [503122.916750] ACPI Exception: AE_AML_INFINITE_LOOP, while evaluating GPE method [_L00] (20131115/evgpe-580)
[16:40] <lamont> thoughts on how to make it shut up?
[16:40] <mjg59> Are you passing any strange kernel options?
[16:41] <lamont> stock boot, atom 330 on an Intel D945GCLF2D MB
[16:42] <lamont> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=/dev/mapper/KAILAN-root ro BOOTIF=01-00-1c-c0-c9-33-a2 quiet splash nomdmonddf nomdmonisw vt.handoff=7
[16:42] <mjg59> Ok
[16:42] <mjg59> I have a vague recollection of this
[16:42] <mjg59> With the conclusion being "This firmware is broken"
[17:01] <TJ-> lamont: see workaround (custom DSDT) https://communities.intel.com/thread/11742?start=0&tstart=0
[17:01] <lamont> TJ ta
[17:02] <lamont> mjg59: somehow, this does not surprise me at all
[17:02] <lamont> the good news is that I'll get incredibly good compression on syslog
[17:02] <lamont> :/
[17:02] <lamont> and lunch.  bbl