[17:10] <twig11> sipior: I think Outlook Express can at least export tab-delimited files, but I don't have the accounts and folders in OE anymore. I just have the identity directories from backup.
[17:10] <caseys> but won't it need the password?
[17:10] <natewiebe13> valros: or king of the hill
[17:10] <dragon64> twigll
[17:10] <twig11> dragon64: yeah?
[17:10] <lstarnes> caseys: yes
[17:10] <NoMS> I would think outlook could export in csv or something
[17:10] <ophiel> ohh actually one more question
[17:10] <ophiel> what about streaming media?
[17:11] <jedc> yes, i wouldnt put sudo before it, just run the script with sudo if you need to
[17:11] <ophiel> i.e. browser embedded stuff
[17:11] <caseys> lstarnes: then how do i put the password in
[17:11] <ohemgy> bankix:i prefer ubuntu distro and because i read some articles that ClamWin works in WINE in ubuntu..
[17:11] <ophiel> utube etc.
[17:11] <ophiel> i found that the performance was not that great using my default install
[17:11] <ophiel> :/
[17:11] <lstarnes> caseys: echo "password" | sudo -s
[17:11] <twig11> NoMS: What Outlook can export isn't relevant to my current issue, because I don't have Outlook or Outlook express.
[17:11] <lstarnes> caseys: actually, that may be -S
[17:12] <caseys> ok
[17:12] <lstarnes> caseys: however, it is much more secure to input the password manually
[17:12] <sipior> twig11: can Thunderbird import that sort of thing?
[17:12] <LrdOfNightmares> Istarnes ayou talking to me?
[17:12] <twig11> Not that I can see.
[17:12] <twig11> sipior:
[17:12] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: I am currently talking to caseys.  You can tell because caseys's nick is at the start of those messages
[17:13] <jedc> caseys, you usually dont want software running as root unless you did it manually on purpose, because if you dont know about it could mess up your system and you wouldnt know why
[17:13] <ulb> I have a problem with nautilus, lowercase "t" does not work. Upprcase works fine, and both lowersace and uppsercase work fine for other users, and in other applications. How can I find out what is wrong?
[17:13] <sipior> twig11: well, so much for my ideas :-) don't suppose you can borrow a copy of outlook for an evening?
[17:13] <ulb> also lowercase "t" works in nautilus if I change language setting in SCIM
[17:13] <ulb> any ideas?
[17:13] <DaZ> blackroot: i can tell you it does compile with gcc 4.4.1  and there's no function with the name containing â
[17:13] <dragon64> twigll I believe thunderbird will do that
[17:13] <ulb> is there a way to check for keyboard shortcut conflicts?
[17:13] <blackroot> daz: i think i run gcc 4.3
[17:14] <twig11> sipior: that would be a copy of WINDOWS
[17:14] <caseys> this is for ups softwere if the prower goes out
[17:14] <sipior> twig11: i understand they're easy to come by.
[17:14] <blackroot> daz: and also, the "â" you are refering to is probably coz the ssh client im using
[17:14] <caseys> and it needs to be root to close the program
[17:14] <DaZ> possible :f
[17:15] <sipior> twig11: but i meant: perhaps you've a friend with a windows machine, for example :-)
[17:15] <houn> Good day, #Ubuntu
[17:15] <twig11> sipior: right. I've got too many of those. :-)
[17:15] <LrdOfNightmares> Oh ok, how can i use the red highlight when i want to talk to someone specific?
[17:16] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: say their nick at the beginning of the message.  You won't see it highlighted, but they most likely will
[17:16] <scootles> Hi, can someone help me? I'm new to linux and I'm trying to put it on a new laptop that I'm going to be using ONLY for web browsing, and watching movies. The problem I'm having is that A)When I play movies, even though the volume is all the way up, the sound comes out barely as a whisper. Even with headphones in it is very hard to hear. B) I can't figure out how to turn wireless on.
[17:16] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: also, try typing thr first couple letters then pressing TAB
[17:16] <elementz> does xubuntu alternate cd come without grub? the installer displays lilo as the only option
[17:16] <lstarnes> *the
[17:16] <houn> Question:  I'm trying to install Ubuntu Desktop 9.04 AMD64.  Boot the CD, choose install.  Screen goes black.  If I press the power button, I'll get the Ubuntu splash with the loading bar.  Each press of the power button loads the next frame in the loading bar.  ALT+F1 shows "Loading, please wait..." indefinitely.
[17:17] <houn> Ideas?
[17:17] <LrdOfNightmares> You have to use ndiswrapper for wireless, i am right?
[17:18] <brorjonas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/252002/
[17:18] <brorjonas> Any ideas?
[17:18] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: only if you can't use a native linux driver for it
[17:18] <scootles> LrdOfNightmares, Me?
[17:18] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: some cards only have windows drivers
[17:18] <LrdOfNightmares> scootles: yeap
[17:19] <scootles> I'll get it, which package is it exactly, ndisgtk, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 or ndiswrapper-common
[17:19] <LrdOfNightmares> Istarness: so now you see my msg highlighted?
[17:20] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: no.  you didn't type my nick correctly (one s at the end, and it starts with a lowercase L)
[17:20] <spO> Do any of you know how to compile ati/fglrx for custom ubuntu kernels?
[17:20] <LrdOfNightmares> lstarnes: now?
[17:20] <scootles> Ok, I've downloaded and installed ndiswrapper, what next?
[17:20] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: yes
[17:21] <userone> I recently installed 64bit ubuntu / 64bit vista dual-boot. I thought everything went smoothly (perhaps too smoothly!) but now I don't see vista appearing on the grub boot loader menu. I have installed dual-boot many times on 32bit xp/lts without this kind of problem. The vista 'media' is mounted automatically on start-up of ubuntu, and I can access all the files, although it say the size is 107GB although I only formatted ntfs to 100GB. Can
[17:21] <twig11> dragon64: I don't see any way to import the .dbx files from Outlook's identity directories if Thunderbird doesn't see Outlook or Outlook Express installed.
[17:21] <LrdOfNightmares> istarnes: is there a way to select the nick and not write it? you know in order to hilight the msg
[17:22] <l403> in xchat? sure
[17:22] <LrdOfNightmares> lstarnes: is there a way to select the nick and not write it? you know in order to hilight the msg
[17:22] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: type the first two or so letters then press the TAB key
[17:22] <userone> btw, the 64bit 9.04 works like a dream! :-)
[17:22] <LrdOfNightmares> lstarnes: Wow! Cool! Thnx m8! :)
[17:22] <jMyles> [manas]: How's it coming?  Have you made any progress SSHing into your machine?
[17:22] <lstarnes> LrdOfNightmares: I think I already told you about that
[17:22] <[manas]> jMyles,  im so lost
[17:23] <[manas]> jMyles,  i open so many port but none of them is working
[17:24] <jMyles> [manas] - try "ssh localhost" from the host computer.
[17:24] <LrdOfNightmares> jMyles: what is that? you know the SSH thing
[17:24] <Krag> i want to convert from xp to ubuntu, but no matter how hard i try to get it to play through my onboard soundcard it does not want to what can i do to stop the stress
[17:24] <scootles> Does anyone know why my sound is barely audible? it's turned all the way up, and even with my ear directly on the speaker I can barely hear it
[17:24] <jMyles> Krag: What kind of computer?
[17:24] <synfin> I want to look over my video card status, is there any linux utility for video cards like free & top for the video card?
[17:24] <[manas]> jMyles, did
[17:25] <jMyles> LrdOfNightmares: I don't understand your question.  Can you rephrase?
[17:25] <jMyles> [manas]: And what happens with ssh localhost?
[17:25] <l403> I have compiled a new gcc version and installed it but the VMserver still reports the old version so I have removed gcc with APT but the problem consists. What can be done to fix it?
[17:25] <jedc> scootles, if you type alsamixer in a terminal you should see a bunch of audio sliders, make sure pcm and front are up
[17:25] <matreya6> I try to setup PulseAudio on Ubuntu 9.04 64Bit for 5.1 Surround Sound. At the moment I only have sound on the Front Speakers. daemon.conf is configured for 6 channels as should be. puvumeter shows 6 channels.
[17:25] <[manas]> jMyles,  Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[17:25] <Oregano> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:25] <houn> Nevermind.
[17:26] <jMyles> [manas]: OK, that means it is working.
[17:26] <houn> I restarted the installer with apci=off, and it works.
[17:26] <jMyles> Now, have you tried, from another computer, connecting with SSH and using the IP address?
[17:26] <houn> Thanks all.
[17:26] <[manas]> jMyles,  i know i put some many of them
[17:26] <LrdOfNightmares> jMyles: "what is that? you know the SSH thing" you asked "manas" how the SSHing into his machine was going, i want to learn what is this SSH into the machine
[17:26] <scootles> jedc: How do I turn them up if they aren't all the way up? Front is at 81%
[17:26] <Rabbitbunny> So, I'm having a problem with wax, namely, there's a white line across the top of the car. It wasn't there before, but it is now. It's a '90 with classic GM clearcoat so I assume th color coat was pretty porous. Hints? tips? tricks?
[17:26] <Rabbitbunny> err, wrong window.
[17:26] <Krag> jMyles I have 9800gt nvidia card, 3 gigs of ram and a dualcore 2.81 2.80 processor pentium computer
[17:26] <jMyles> !ssh | LrdOfNightmares
[17:27] <jedc> LrdOfNightmares, it is a way to (basically) log into a remote machine with a terminal interface, although it also has the capability to do forward graphical programs also
[17:27] <jMyles> Krag: You are having audio problems?  What audio card?
[17:27] <[manas]> jMyles,  i just cant figure out for ip-address-of-ssh-server shuold i put 94-193-47-68.zone7.bethere.co.uk or 94-193-47-68 i tryed both but none of them a working
[17:28] <LrdOfNightmares> jedc: jMyles Thnx guys
[17:28] <scootles> jedc: How do I turn them up if they aren't all the way up? Front is at 81%
[17:28] <jMyles> LrdOfNightmares: SSH is wonderful, but there are security risks.  Let us know if you need any help as you pursue a SSH solution.
[17:29] <twig11> scootles: I found this helpful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[17:29] <Mibtech> I use my Linux computer for running game servers, I have 2 hard drives but when I install game server software on the secondary it will not work only if I install into the home folder is there any way around this ? I'm running out of hard drive space on my main hard drive
[17:29] <Krag> jMyles I have got a onboard realtek hd soundcard that i can't get to work on ubuntu and an external soundblaster audigy value soundcard that seems to dominate my onboard and is all that plays audio can't get it to switcyh
[17:30] <ravil> hello2all
[17:30] <jMyles> Krag: Hmm.  Not sure.  Any results on google or in the forums?
[17:30] <jMyles> !hi | ravil
[17:30] <jedc> scootles, what is pcm at?
[17:30] <jedc> scootles, you use the arrow keys to get to the one you want, and the use up and down to change it, if it says MM at the botom is it muted
[17:30] <LrdOfNightmares> jMyles: Thanks, when i start exploring it i will tell you
[17:30] <jMyles> Krag: You've tried System -=> Preferences -=> Sound, right?
[17:31] <Bavaria> Hi, I know this is not the channels topic, but I require some help from someone with good eye-sight. I need to solve a magic-eye kind of riddle just with ascii art
[17:31] <Mrokii> hello all. Can somebody suggest a good editor for programming on Ubuntu (Gnome)? So far I have tried out Kate and KomodoEdit but not really pleased with both...
[17:31] <Bavaria> would someone be so nice to help me out?
[17:31] <Krag> jMyles I have tried a lot of forums and stuff and have gone to system sound, but to no success
[17:31] <jedc> [manas], on the host machine type ifconfig, it will have the local ip address for the network, you can use that if you are on the network
[17:31] <jMyles> Bavaria: Try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:31] <Bavaria> thanks
[17:31] <jedc> [manas], if you want to ssh over the internet you need to set up portforwarding from your router on port 80 to the host machines local ip
[17:32] <aksci> still not able to configure my cabinet's front audio jack! please hellppp!!!
[17:32] <jedc> [manas], my bad, i think 22 is the default port
[17:32] <jMyles> [manas] - Sorry, I missed that comment.  jedc is spot on - use ifconfig to determine the IP address.  Are you, at least for the moment, using two computers on the same LAN?
[17:32] <jMyles> [manas], indeed port 22 is default. :-)  Thanks jedc.
[17:33] <Krag> jMyles I have tried the live cd of fedora linux and there i'm able to switch between my soundcards with no problems what so ever any ideas on why this is so?
[17:33] <jedc> jMyles, :D
[17:33] <Phrogz> I'm trying, and failing, to get a ruby script to run from a particular directory at startup. I have:  /etc/init.d/local #=> shebang + /var/www/go.sh   and /var/www/go.sh #=> shebang + cd /var/www/ + ruby go.rb &
[17:33] <witklm> hi
[17:33] <rapha> hi
[17:33] <Phrogz> If I    sudo /etc/init.d/local   it works, but it's not kicking off when I start the server. How do I debug this?
[17:34] <Mibtech> If any one could help me, I use my Linux computer for running game servers, I have 2 hard drives but when I install game server software on the secondary it will not work only if I install into the home folder is there any way around this ? I'm running out of hard drive space on my main hard drive
[17:34] <moose55> anyone know how to get HDMI audio to work in Ubuntu 9.04
[17:34] <scootles> Now I'm having slight stuttering issues with video playback, including things like Youtube. Any ideas?
[17:34] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: i suggest Code::blocks, the thing is that i can't install it :/
[17:35] <sipior> Phrogz: i believe rc.local is run at boot by default.
[17:35] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, what's that?
[17:35] <moose55> can anyone help me get audio to work with HDMI on Ubuntu 9.04
[17:35] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: Programing editor with grafical interface
[17:36] <sipior> Phrogz: to be clear, that's /etc/rc.local.
[17:36] <jMyles> Krag: I'm sorry I don't know.  Keep trying.  Have you found any answers on the forums?
[17:36] <Mrokii> specifically I am looking for something I can do Python with. I also tried to install Eric Python IDE and SPE but both do not work/start here :/
[17:36] <spO> Do any of you know how to compile ati/fglrx for custom ubuntu kernels?
[17:36] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, I see
[17:36] <Lunixed> #join /java
[17:37] <kiaas_> Lunixed, wrong order
[17:37] <Krag> jMyles thanks will try, but i have little hope
[17:37] <Phrogz> sipior: OK, I see I have that. I'll try putting in there (though I followed other instructions using update-rc.d which I think should have made my file runnable). So now:
[17:37] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: if you can fix it let me know too xP
[17:37] <danbhfive> Mibtech: you can either use symlinks to move specific folders to your other hdd, or you could move /home to the other hdd
[17:37] <Mrokii> :)
[17:37] <Phrogz> a) Do I need to do anything to cleanly remove my own local script having run update-rc.d, and
[17:37] <Lunixed> kiaas_, I am not able  to join #java
[17:37] <moose55> can anyone help me get audio to work with HDMI on Ubuntu 9.04
[17:37] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, I doubt it, as I am pretty new to Linux
[17:37] <Phrogz> b) Do I need to "change the execution bits" to get rc.local to run?
[17:37] <kiaas_> Lunixed, really? /join #java does nothing for you?
[17:38] <edbian> Phrogz: rc.local always runs
[17:38] <Lunixed> says you need to be ideantified and i am registered :( : kiaas_
[17:38] <^Einstein> Lunixed: ##java is +r
[17:38] <Lunixed> does it work for u?
[17:38] <^Einstein> Lunixed: please see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[17:38] <Phrogz> sipior: Oh, and c) Assuming it does run but is still some sort of working directory issue, how do I properly change the working directory to /var/www before running my ruby go.rb?
[17:38] <jedc> Phrogz, it should already be executable
[17:38] <Phrogz> edbian and jedc: thanks
[17:38] <Lunixed> i am registered @ ^Einstein
[17:38] <sipior> Phrogz: a) just remove the script from wherever you put it. b) /etc/rc.local should already exist and have execute bits set.
[17:38] <Mibtech> danbhfive: if I more /home to my secondary drive is there other changes I would need todo ?
[17:38] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: i am new to Linux too m8, it seems that we are classmates for Linux :P
[17:38] <Bob_Dole> Lunixed, but are you identified?
[17:38] <Phrogz> sipior: Excellent, thanks.
[17:39] <^Einstein> Lunixed: not right now, you're not identified
[17:39] <Lunixed> Bob_Dole, yes
[17:39] <Roland> I've got a question... At work i have a system with 7.04 it average load is ~0.02, but my laptop (9.04) averages 0.4. Why the huge difference?
[17:39] <^Einstein> Lunixed: /msg nickserv help identify
[17:39] <danbhfive> Mibtech: yeah, you can't just use mv
[17:39] <spO> Is it possible to install ati/fglrx on a custom ubuntu kernel?
[17:39] <sipior> Phrogz: c) cd, or pushd
[17:39] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, heh, seems so
[17:39] <naderman> hey, I'm trying to use two screens with xrandr, this all works quite fine, just that the config I want goes over the maximum total resolution
[17:40] <userone> ok, i found a howto fix the vista boot loader problem, but can someone tell me how I can check if I have an IDE hdd (hd0,0) or a sata/scsi hdd (sd0,0)?
[17:40] <edbian> Roland: Work system has a better processor faster ram etc etc
[17:40] <Bodsda> Mibtech, is your home directory a seperate partition?
[17:40] <danbhfive> Mibtech: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving?highlight=(home)|(move)
[17:40] <naderman> how can I change that maximum resolution without modifying xorg.conf?
[17:40] <Krag> anyone know how to switch from one soundcard to another in ubuntu 9.04
[17:40] <edbian> Roland: Load is a measure of how hard the system is working.  There are many many factors
[17:40] <danbhfive> Mibtech: oops: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[17:40] <edbian> naderman: You cannot.  I am not aware of any other way.
[17:40] <naderman> I've read that you can add a Virtual line to your Display config in xorg.conf but since I don't have an xorg.conf with the latest ubuntu anymore and I would prefer not to have to generate one, is there any way?
[17:41] <jedc> Roland, i think it would also depend on all your hardware, i.e. which drivers are running for networkcard and soundcard and such
[17:41] <edbian> naderman: Except perhaps getting new hardware.
[17:41] <Catspiritone> I'
[17:41] <naderman> edbian: where does the config generated on the fly now come from?
[17:41] <Catspiritone> I've a Radeon 4890, what drivers should I be using?
[17:41] <Mibtech> danbhfive: ok i'll look at the link thanks
[17:41] <rapha> how can you find out that the problem is when NetworkManager shows two green dots and spins and spins for about a minute and then says disconnected?
[17:41] <moose55> can anyone help me get audio to work with HDMI on Ubuntu 9.04???
[17:41] <naderman> edbian: this is new hardware, what would the hardware have to do with it?
[17:41] <histo> naderman: I thought there was a command to genereate one I thinkg doing a dpkg-reconfigure of the xorg server will generate it.
[17:41] <PerlGuy> Python in jaunty defaults to 2.6
[17:42] <PerlGuy> how can I set default to 2.5
[17:42] <scootles> can I stop mIRC from showing EVERYONE who joins or leaves? It's getting annoying
[17:42] <histo> naderman: the other option is to a locate and see if there is a document one lying around somewhere.
[17:42] <edbian> naderman: The X server probes the hardware (the video card and the monitor in this case) to determine what resolutions are possible.
[17:42] <naderman> edbian: yeah it does that correctly
[17:42] <eXeegg> prompt russian server irc
[17:42] <eXeegg> ?
[17:42] <naderman> the problem is that the frame buffer which is created on xorg startup is too small for both screens at the same time
[17:42] <edbian> naderman: If it did that correctly you would have the resolution you're trying to add wouldn't you?
[17:42] <naderman> edbian: I do have the resolution for each screen individually
[17:43] <jedc> naderman, what are you trying to do?
[17:43] <adnc> hello, is there a calendar application that works with gnome and also allows syncronization via webcal?
[17:43] <naderman> but the total of both resolutions doesn't fit into the frame buffer
[17:43] <histo> naderman:
[17:43] <Linux^Warrior> anyone actually here?
[17:43] <eXeegg> prompt russian server irc?
[17:43] <edbian> naderman: Then you need a better video card?  I'm not sure if there is a way to solve that problem.
[17:43] <histo> nader sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg should genreate one I believe
[17:43] <Bodsda> Linux^Warrior, there are 1454 people in the channel... 1453...1454
[17:43] <bankix> !ask | Linux^Warrior
[17:43] <Roland> edbian, ok, that sounds reasonable
[17:43] <th0r> #!/bin/sh
[17:43] <naderman> jedc: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --output VGA --mode 1024x768 --above LVDS
[17:43] <naderman> xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1440x1440 (desired size 1440x1668)
[17:44] <Bodsda> th0r, scripting? :)
[17:44] <naderman> edbian: my video card can handle it just find
[17:44] <naderman> *fine
[17:44] <jedc> naderman, if you have an nvidia card at least you can configure multiple displays in System->Administration->Nvidia x server settings, i dont know much more than that sorry
[17:44] <naderman> xrandr just does not appear to have an option to change that setting
[17:44] <edbian> naderman: Than I'm afraid I don't know! :(
[17:44] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, CodeBox seems to work without problems here, installed via Synaptic
[17:44] <naderman> jedc: intel card
[17:44] <th0r> Bodsda: yeah....a tk package for openvpn...and old age <smile>
[17:44] <naderman> histo: I was really hoping I wouldn't have to do that
[17:45] <naderman> is there no way to kind of inject this setting without having the actual configuration present?
[17:45] <Phrogz> sipior: No glory. If I    sudo /etc/rc.local   the process starts fine, but when I reboot the machine it doesn't work.
[17:45] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: how did you install it and what do you mean it works without problems? did you run a program?
[17:45] <Bodsda> th0r, cool, I should really get started on that echo server ive been putting off :)
[17:45] <Linux^Warrior> lol thta was a question actually, last time I was here everyone was afk :P
[17:45] <edbian> Phrogz: What is the command?  rc.local is run early on perhaps you need the X server to be running or something first.
[17:45] <Linux^Warrior> I need help with totem codecs I have to download manual to get them
[17:45] <Catspiritone> What drivers should I use for my Radeon 4890?
[17:46] <sipior> Phrogz: can you insert debugging lines to verify that the script is in fact run?
[17:46] <Linux^Warrior> what is the link for totem codecs? I cnanot find them via google
[17:46] <Bodsda> Linux^Warrior, usually I just try and play something and then totem gives me the option of nistalling them
[17:46] <sipior> Phrogz: also, can you pastebin the contents of /etc/rc.local?
[17:46] <jedc> Phrogz, it didnt work to make it executable and put it in /etc/init.d?
[17:46] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: CodeBox Or Code::Blocks?
[17:46] <Phrogz> edbian: http://pastie.org/581522
[17:46] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, I installed it via the Synaptic package manager and just tried to start it afterwards. That's all I have tested :)
[17:46] <Phrogz> sipior: How/where would I see the output of the debugging lines?
[17:46] <Linux^Warrior> yeah I do not have that option
[17:47] <Linux^Warrior> I have an older distro for an old laptop
[17:47] <Phrogz> jedc: Same issue as with using this built-in rc.local; works when I run it explicitly, but doesn't come up on boot.
[17:47] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, err, "code:blocks", right :)
[17:47] <Roland> Bodsda, he's using 5.10
[17:47] <edbian> Phrogz: Why do you need to cd somewhere?
[17:47] <icarus> how do i know when simple backup is compleate?
[17:47] <Bodsda> Roland, ouch :)
[17:47] <Linux^Warrior> I just need the link to the manual download page for the codecs so I can install them
[17:47] <edbian> Phrogz: Is that the entire start_drb_server.sh script?
[17:48] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: which one did you choose to install?
[17:48] <Roland> Linux^Warrior, the codecs are int he repository
[17:48] <Phrogz> edbian: Yes; The ruby script requires other libraries that all assume the working directory is /var/www/pentagonalrobin is why I need the cd
[17:48] <Linux^Warrior> I looked its tryign to downlaod ff the site but its a 404
[17:48] <EruditeHermit> hi, when I plug my mtp device into ubuntu, gnome mounts the device. This however stops rhythmbox from accessing it. I have to unmount hte device so that rhythmbox can access it. Is there a way to prevent gnome from mounting it immediately?
[17:48] <Linux^Warrior> off*
[17:48] <edbian> Phrogz: That's probably true.
[17:48] <Roland> Linux^Warrior, you're SOL
[17:49] <spO> Do any of you know how to compile ati/fglrx for custom ubuntu kernels?
[17:49] <fnord23> sup?
[17:49] <Phrogz> edbian: Sorry, what's probably true?
[17:49] <sipior> Phrogz: you'll see the output during startup, assuming you've turned off the annoying splash screen. can you also pastebin the contents of the script referenced in /etc/rc.local?
[17:49] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, the Package is named "codeblocks" in the synaptic package manager
[17:49] <ltcabral> whats a good graphical interface to use CVS?
[17:49] <edbian> Phrogz: That you need to be in /var/www/pentagonalrobin
[17:49] <fnord23> confidential
[17:49] <Phrogz> sipior: It's in the pastebin
[17:49] <sipior> Phrogz: ah no, i see it, thanks
[17:49] <newfag> i am a complete newcomer, i need help, will anyone guide me?
[17:49] <jMyles> [manas]: Are you trying to connect to another computer on your LAN?
[17:49] <Phrogz> sipior: The server is, sadly, about 4,000 miles physically from me; only ssh access.
[17:49] <edbian> !ask | newfag
[17:49] <jMyles> [manas]: At least for the moment?
[17:50] <sipior> Phrogz: you should specify explicitly the path for ruby.
[17:50] <genii> newfag: You should probably also consider changing your nickname, the current one is somewhat offensive
[17:50] <Phrogz> sipior: Ah, good thought, will try that.
[17:50] <Linux^Warrior> does nobody know the old link for ttem codecs manual install??
[17:50] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: Thats what i have installed bu i have this problem. Look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/252007/
[17:50] <[manas]> jMyles,yes im, im trying to test it
[17:51] <tushar> hi
[17:51] <TooAngel> Hi
[17:51] <Caerbannog> hi all
[17:51] <jedc> newfag, so the answer is yes, if we know the answer, but we dont know the question, and you should probably change your nick as genii said
[17:51] <tushar> ny1 can help me wid xvidtunes
[17:51] <natewiebe13> anyone know anything about deluge?
[17:52] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, Looks more like a syntax-error to me than a problem with the IDE
[17:52] <Linux^Warrior> wtf?? how ur nick \0??
[17:52] <TooAngel> is it possible to prepare a directory in that way, that each file which is created, have a special owner? I know for groups their is the setgid bit, but for the owner?
[17:52] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, I don't know C++, but isn't a comment initiated with "//*" ?
[17:53] <ari_> how do i get videos to work properly
[17:53] <userone> if fdisk -l lists disks as sda1, sda2, sda3 does that mean they are sata/scsi? IDE would be listed as hda?
[17:53] <ks3> TooAngel, Nope, just setgid combined with user groups and umask settings
[17:53] <jrib> TooAngel: Access Control Lists -- man setfacl and getfacl
[17:53] <jedc> Mrokii, "/*" i think
[17:53] <jMyles> [manas]: Well then under most circumstances the ip address will be something like 192.168.*.*
[17:53] <LrdOfNightmares> Mrokii: no in C++ thats how the comments are used, with 2 slashes, what programing language do you know?
[17:53] <bankix> userone: Nope, all IDE/SATA/SCSI disks will show up as sd*
[17:53] <edbian> userone: Ubuntu lists all harddrives as sda now it seems.  ide or sata does not seem to matter
[17:53] <TooAngel> @ks3 @jrib thx
[17:53] <TooAngel> k, i will look at acls if it solve my problem
[17:54] <jrib> TooAngel: note you need to add mount options to use ACLs
[17:54] <Phrogz> / is single line comment, /* starts multi-line, and you can do         //*   ...    //*/   so that adding or removing the leading slash will change the block-level comment.
[17:54] <Linux> lol intresting
[17:54] <Mrokii> LrdOfNightmares, Javascript, a bit of Objective-C and some other scripting-languages. I have only used C some years ago (I'm only a hobbyist regarding programming)
[17:54] <Phrogz> Bah, extra slash eaten.
[17:54] <sipior> LrdOfNightmares: how precisely did you compile this?
[17:54] <Linux^\> oops
[17:54] <ari_> hi, i need help, i'm just trying out ubuntu and no videos seem to work properly
[17:54] <jedc> Phrogz, ah, i didnt know about the extra slashes
[17:54] <userone> bankix: thanks, i found a howto so i can fix my vista boot menu problem, but it gives to commands depending on whether the hdd is IDE or SATA/SCSI. How can I check which type of hdd I have?
[17:55] <Phrogz> sipior: You win! Specifying full ruby path fixed it. Duh, me. Thanks! (And thanks to edbian for the help, too.)
[17:55] <naderman> histo: well thanks that did the job
[17:55] <naderman> histo: though it'd be kind of nice if xrandr simply had an option for that ;-)
[17:55] <edbian> Phrogz: NP
[17:55] <LrdOfNightmares> sipior: what do you mean "precisely"?
[17:55] <bankix> userone: In 99.999 percent of all cases you won't have any SCSI at all. And I don't see where this is important to grub.
[17:55] <TooAngel> @jrib k, that should be no problem
[17:56] <ari_> is there perhaps a special help server for newfags like me?
[17:56] <TooAngel> just didn't had a clue, where to search, acl is a good hint
[17:56] <edbian> bankix: What's the difference between the commands?
[17:56] <edbian> ari_: Stop calling yourself a fag.
[17:56] <jrib> ari_: please don't use that term here
[17:56] <ari_> k, why though
[17:56] <sipior> LrdOfNightmares: you want me to define "precisely"? what command did you type or select to attempt to build this? (clearly the compiler does not know to treat this as a C++ source file, as you can see from the errors returned)
[17:56] <edbian> ari_: What is your question?
[17:56] <bankix> edbian: Which commands?
[17:57] <ari_> no videos are displayed correctly
[17:57] <edbian> bankix: I meant userone:  What is the difference between the commands
[17:57] <edbian> ari_: Flash videos?
[17:57] <jedc> ari_, if it is in a proprietary format you probably need to install some extra codecs, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" will also install flash, and some other stuff you probably want
[17:57] <Linux^\> ari load it in safe  graphics mode
[17:57] <LrdOfNightmares> sipior: actually i am new to Programing, and i tryed Code::Blocks
[17:57] <ari_> all streaming videos, what is safe graphics mode and how do i do that
[17:58] <B4ckB0ne> im on 9.04 an i just installed the package tonido   but i cant find the prog.. where is ist?
[17:58] <jedc> LrdOfNightmares, you might be trying to use the c compiler instead of c++
[17:58] <userone> bankix: the howto says to amend the /boot/grub/menu.lst file but there is a different entry depending on if "Vista is installed to the first partition of the first IDE hard drive:" (which gives the entry root hd0,0) or "Vista is installed to the first partition of the first SATA/SCSI hard drive:" (which gives the entry root sd0,0)
[17:58] <jedc> LrdOfNightmares, gcc is for c code, g++ for c++ code
[17:58] <Mrokii> or, does somebody know what kind of colorcode KomodoEdit uses in its scheme-files? The reason I didn't like that editor was that the possibilities to change the look of the sourcecode seem to be quite limited.
[17:58] <edbian> B4ckBOne: try running it from the terminal (and looking at man tonido)
[17:58] <Mrokii> At least from the GUI
[17:59] <bankix> userone: There is no difference between SCSI and IDE/SATA. It's allways (hd0) or so.
[17:59] <[manas]> jMyles,   sudo ssh -D 446<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:59] <[manas]> [sudo] password for zion:
[17:59] <[manas]><EMAIL_ADDRESS>password:
[17:59] <[manas]> Linux zion-desktop 2.6.28-14-generic #47-Ubuntu SMP Sat Jul 25 00:28:35 UTC 2009 i686
[17:59] <bankix> userone: There is no (sd0)
[17:59] <FloodBot3> [manas]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <ari_> linux^\ how do i load it in safe graphics mode?
[17:59] <Linux^\> press esc on grub load
[17:59] <jedc> [manas], sounds like its working
[17:59] <LrdOfNightmares> Ok
[17:59] <edbian> userone: "sda" is the harddrive.  sda1 is partition 1, sda2 is partiton 2 etc etc
[17:59] <B4ckB0ne> edbian, there is no command tonido and no man page ... so i dont know what to do.
[18:00] <[manas]> jedc, but it not
[18:00] <edbian> B4ckBOne: Really?  That's odd.  What does tonido do?
[18:00] <LrdOfNightmares> sipior: How can i use the g++ or the gcc?
[18:00] <jMyles> [manas]: Great! :-)
[18:00] <[manas]> jedc, i c ant connect
[18:00] <[manas]> jMyles, buti cant connect
[18:00] <apoleo12> hey... I have a load error that it cant find the defkeymap... running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) find keymap: no such file or directory. Cannot find defkeymap
[18:00] <B4ckB0ne> tonido is a fileshareing server on a php basis which brings its own sql and stuff
[18:00] <userone> bankix: thanks, I hadnt seen sd0 before so I was confused by that. I will just use hd0.
[18:01] <sipior> LrdOfNightmares: try compiling from the terminal. save the program text in "begin.cc", and then build with "g++ begin.cc -lstdc++". that should produce "a.out", a binary which you can run. (specify the executable name via the -o switch)
[18:01] <Linux^\> for anyone just learning linux I would download virtualbox for windows & run it on a virtual machine :) its safer & runs about same
[18:01] <jedc> [manas], you just posted what looks like a successful connection, do you get a shell prompt after that?
[18:01] <edbian> userone: There is no hd0 either!
[18:01] <spydon> whats the command that shows the log that is good for troubleshooting? if you know what I mean...
[18:01] <edbian> userone: hda is the harddrive, hda1 is partition 1...
[18:01] <B4ckB0ne> edbian,  tonido is a fileshareing server on a php basis which brings its own sql and stuff
[18:02] <[manas]> jedc, ?
[18:02] <edbian> spydon: "dmesg" is good for looking for general system errors
[18:02] <bankix> edbian: In the menu.lst there is _indeed_ hd0 etc.!
[18:02] <spydon> edbian, exactly what I meant
[18:02] <spydon> thx
[18:02] <edbian> bankix: Oohh! In grub notation yes.
[18:02] <edbian> spydon: NP
[18:02] <userone> edbian: now you have me confused! the howto i am using says to amend the /boot/grub/menu.lst file but there is a different entry depending on if "Vista is installed to the first partition of the first IDE hard drive:" (which gives the entry root hd0,0) or "Vista is installed to the first partition of the first SATA/SCSI hard drive:" (which gives the entry root sd0,0)
[18:02] <jedc> [manas], you are trying to use ssh to login to zion-desktop?
[18:03] <bankix> userone: Just ignore the last line from edbian. Use hd0 etc.
[18:03] <jMyles> [manas]: It looks like you did connect.
[18:03] <edbian> userone: I'm sorry to confuse.  Grub starts counting at 0 so (hd0,0) would be harddrive 1 partition1
[18:03] <edbian> userone: bankix: lol, yes ignore me if I'm confusing.  I'll shut up now unless further solicited.
[18:04] <bankix> edbian: np, we're all human... okay, most at least are #-)
[18:04] <xiphos> anyone here use webmitm ?
[18:04] <edbian> bankix: :)
[18:04] <Linux^\> anyone know the specs to arch linux?? im running on a old laptop :(
[18:04] <[manas]> jMyles, but wjen i put everything in browser on ohter machine its no internet
[18:04] <colin100121> anyone know why package manager fails and I find I need to reinstall ubuntu from scratch?
[18:05] <bankix> colin100121: No, we don't. Because we have not a single detail...
[18:05] <Linux^\> because the packagemanager failed a needed set of files & caused errors
[18:05] <jedc> [manas], ssh does not share an internet connection, it lets you log into from a command line to the other machine
[18:05] <Linux^\> u can boot into terminal & try apt-fix
[18:05] <sipior> colin100121: that's a fairly general question. excessive sunspot activity?
[18:05] <colin100121> I have the error message reported if anyone is interested
[18:06] <[manas]> jedc, im trying to do http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/12/08/ssh-tunnel-socks-proxy-forwarding-secure-browsing/
[18:06] <jMyles> [manas]: I don't understand what you mean.
[18:06] <bankix> colin100121: _could_ help helping you.
[18:06] <apoleo12> hey... I have a load error that it cant find the defkeymap... running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) find keymap: no such file or directory. Cannot find defkeymap. how t solve this? i had put in the entry before but it still happening
[18:06] <userone> bankix: edbian: ok, so here is another confusing thing (for me at least!). The vista hdd is formatted as ntfs to 100GB (102400) , but when it appears on my ubuntu desktop the size become 107GB! this is too much error to be down to calculating disk space?
[18:07] <bankix> userone: Different bases for "kilo" and "mega".
[18:07] <colin100121> well I cant start package manager and it reports this:
[18:07] <colin100121> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[18:07] <colin100121> anyone understand what that means?
[18:07] <[manas]> jMyles,  so whit that program i opened a tunnel yes?? now i want to use my browser
[18:07] <jMyles> [manas]: No, you didn't open a tunnel - not this time.  Go back to the tutorial - you'll see you need some parameters.
[18:07] <jedc> [manas], ssh does not open a tunnel unless you use some command line options
[18:08] <jedc> [manas], and then you need to set up firefox to use a different port than the normal one for internet
[18:08] <munky> can anybody here give me some instructions how to install my brother dcp-357c (printer)?
[18:08] <bankix> colin100121: Rename that file and all others starting with the same name into a different directory. Then call "apt-get update" and look what it says.
[18:08] <harcoal> I think ssh -D 9999 username@sshserver should work
[18:09] <jedc> [manas], i use ssh -N -f -L 3308:localhost:3306 jed@thehost for remote mysql administration for instance
[18:09] <colin100121> okay thanks, will try that
[18:09] <jedc> [manas], which makes your local machines port 3308 act as 3306 on the host machine
[18:10] <mickster04> munky, what have you tried so far
[18:10] <[manas]> jedc, now u made me more confused
[18:10] <jedc> [manas], just follow the tutorial, i dont know all the ssh command line options i just found an example online
[18:11] <jedc> [manas] man ssh might help, or might make you more confused
[18:11] <munky> i tried the automtaic install offered from ubuntu but my printer isn't supported in the list
[18:11] <thenuns> alguien me dice el canal de espanoñ
[18:11] <thenuns> espanol
[18:11] <lstarnes> !es | thenuns
[18:11] <mickster04> ah ok
[18:11] <mickster04> well when u plug it in have you had a look at admin>printers
[18:11] <mickster04> mayb it will appear there anyway
[18:12] <harcoal> [manas] have you ran the ssh command from the tutorial?
[18:12] <thenuns> #kubuntu-es
[18:12] <[manas]> jedc,  but in totorias it only says$ssh -D 9999 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server
[18:12] <munky> yes i did and it appeared but i can't print
[18:12] <[manas]> it only one command there
[18:12] <jiffe> anyone run ocfs2 on ubuntu?  I've got it setup on 2 nodes, but I keep getting scsi reservation conflicts when I run bonnie++ on it
[18:12] <jiohdi> anyone know why skype does not show up on the add/remove list?
[18:13] <mickster04> jiohdi, have u tried synaptic package manager
[18:13] <jedc> [manas], if that is what you typed then i suspect your difficulty is in not setting up firefox to use port 9999 to connect to the internet
[18:13] <jiohdi> mick, that is how I installed it
[18:13] <[manas]> i did diferent port
[18:13] <mickster04> jiohdi, well thats how u uninstallit too then
[18:13] <harcoal> [manas] open firefox and choose edit>preferences>advanced>network>setttings, then choose manual proxy, socks4 with the server set as localhost with port 9999
[18:14] <mickster04> munky, i rpesume uv checked out ubuntu forums
[18:14] <jiohdi> mick, I am still new, did not know they were different
[18:14] <munky> ok i'll do that i'll return later propably^^
[18:14] <jedc> [manas], do this on the same machine that you created the ssh tunnel on
[18:15] <mickster04> jiohdi, well i dont understand how they are but if it doesnt appear in add/remove before install it wont after...?
[18:15] <[manas]> harcoal, ssh -D 446<EMAIL_ADDRESS>i did 446 what for i need to use 9999
[18:15] <Stumpie> hello, what is the best VNC client for linux+windows? I want to set it up on work and home computer, so when i am on one, I can have the other rendering my animations. TIA :)
[18:15]  * ninjaslim blech, worst experiences with fud fud fedora
[18:15] <mickster04> !vnc
[18:15] <colin100121> if I can get permissions to rename that file wah!
[18:15] <harcoal> [manas] it's probably best to use a high port number like 9999 to be sure
[18:16] <jiohdi> mickster, I dont know, but you are correct, it is listed in synaptic
[18:16] <Darkorical> Can anyone help me with a couple Mirrored server questions
[18:16] <jedc> [manas], lower port numbers are reserved for certain things, e.g. 22 for ssh, 80 for internet normally i think
[18:17] <mickster04> !tab | jiohdi
[18:17] <mickster04> munky, have a looka at http://<IP_ADDRESS>/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pl&u=http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D590793&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddcp-357c%2Bubuntu%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhh15gMxDFiQaFO4OTk64OdpcEvJ1w
[18:17] <frostburn> anyone know of a good music player/library manager that uses a rdb for a backend? Amarok is completely unusable
[18:17] <[manas]> not working
[18:18] <jedc> frostburn, what is rdb?
[18:18] <frostburn> jedc, relational database
[18:18] <harcoal> [manos] hmm, not sure then, I just followed the tutorial you linked to and it allowed me to browse via ssh
[18:18] <n00b81> Hello, I would like to download all the files and directories off an http web server using wget, what would be the command to do this? thank you
[18:18] <harcoal> *whoops [manas] (too much MST3K ...)
[18:19] <Darkorical> we have two locations connected via hardware VPN tunnel the connection between the two is sometimes slow I was asked to look into putting a server in each location and have them sync with each other l
[18:19] <jedc> harcoal, lol
[18:19] <alankila_> n00b81: wget --mirror and possibly add --no-parent
[18:19] <n00b81> ok thank you
[18:19] <B4ckB0ne> how to find out which files were copied to my harddrive by a package?
[18:19] <Darkorical> problem comes in with mysql syncing ....
[18:20] <jedc> [manas], are you trying to connect to the internet on the machine running the ssh server or the one you created the tunnel on?
[18:20] <[manas]> jedc, yes it doesnt work
[18:20] <jedc> [manas], which one?
[18:20] <[manas]> jedc, same whit ssh
[18:21] <jedc> [manas], one of your earlier posts made it sound like you were trying to use firefox on the machine running the server, which is not what the tutorial is saying
[18:21] <Soul> sogol
[18:21] <[manas]> jedc,  but u guys told me to try it now
[18:22] <[manas]> jedc, before i was doing on other machine and it didnt work too
[18:22] <Stumpie> before anyone came into the office this morning, I installed Ubuntu 9.04 in the nude 8)
[18:22] <Daruka> Hi folks.  Quick question about libnotify.  The default that comes with Jaunty only displays one message at a time in the upper right corner of the screen. If I want to change this, do I need notify-daemon package or is there another way to change it?
[18:23] <B4ckB0ne> how to find out which files were copied to my harddrive by a package?
[18:23] <jedc> [manas], the tutorial is showing how to use a remote computer's (running an ssh server) internet from your computer. You dont need to do anything on the computer running the ssh server at all
[18:23] <icarus> where can i get a printer driver for a canon IP600 ?
[18:23] <userone> ok, something else...my vista partition mounts automatically on start-up, which i dont want. I checked my fstab file, so if I # out the line /dev/sda1 /media/media ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_GB.UTF-8 0 0, this will stop it mounting automatically? i will still be able to mount /unmount manually?
[18:23] <grawity> B4ckB0ne: dpkg -L packagename
[18:23] <B4ckB0ne> thx grawity
[18:24] <colin100121> bankix I cant rename the file, seems to be restricted by package manager
[18:24] <jedc> userone, yes, you will need to specify a mount point when you manually mount it
[18:24] <linex> I have an nvidia video card NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]. It has a TV out connector. I connect it to my crt TV. Kubuntu started ok until KDM (X) starts, the screen became totally black. Am I missing something here ?
[18:24] <bankix> colin100121: You have to be root on the command line and to close the package manager of course.
[18:24] <[manas]> jedc i know i was just testing
[18:25] <colin100121> that's the problem, I can't get it to close, its got a stop icon running
[18:25] <fccf> linex: you will need to use nvidia-settings to setup a second monitor
[18:25] <jedc> [manas], the ssh tunnel is not 2 ways, port 9999 on the remote machine will not be bound to anything
[18:25] <userone> jedc: when I mount it manually, can I set the default mount point to the desktop? /media/sda1?
[18:26] <linex> fccf: ok, I will try. Are sure about this ?
[18:26] <fccf> linex: done it 100's of times
[18:26] <linex> fccf: thanks
[18:26] <Darkorical> is it possible to sync two mysql databases that arepudated seporatly
[18:26] <Luan> oi
[18:26] <Luan> oi tudo bem
[18:26] <Darkorical> that are updated*
[18:26] <Luan> alguem afim de tc
[18:27] <Luan> sasa
[18:27] <[manas]> jedc, can u help me let start to do everything from begining
[18:27] <frostburn> Darkorical, define sync?
[18:27] <jedc> userone, i think you actually want it in fstab, but you need to change the options so it doesnt mount automatically, but still has a default mount point, i dont know how to do that exactly you will need to read up on fstab options
[18:27] <colin100121> get the feeling I will give up and re-install linux again :( oh to start a windows explorer with priviliges!
[18:27] <jedc> [manas],  yes
[18:28] <userone> jedc: ok, thanks
[18:28] <[manas]> jedc, but first i need a cigarete one minute
[18:28] <grawity> colin100121: Windows Explorer can be started with privileges using runas /u:Administrator "explorer /separate", if you want that.
[18:28] <frostburn> colin100121, what's the issue
[18:28] <Darkorical> frostburn: they both need to have the same information in them but be always availible ot the location they are in for update and retrieve even when they are not ocnnected to eachother
[18:28] <linex> fccf: Separate X Screen or Twinview ?
[18:28] <colin100121> thanks
[18:29] <frostburn> Darkorical, use either mysql replication or mysqlproxy
[18:29] <icarus> where can i get a driver for a CANON IP600  printer
[18:29] <colin100121> I meant running a windows like explorer on linux
[18:29] <jedc> userone, np, sorry i cant be more help, ive done it before but i just found something online that explained the options
[18:30] <frostburn> colin100121, what features of explorer are you looking for?
[18:30] <n00b81> thanks for the help guys. Have a nice day
[18:30] <Darkorical> I looked at mysql replication and it seemed that it wanted all changes made to one server then it updates the other ones I need updates to be made on both servers
[18:30] <colin100121> hmm just something like explorer on linux that allows me admin rights
[18:30] <userone> jedc: no worries, I am also reading something online which explains some options, thanks anyway
[18:30] <frostburn> colin100121, gksudo nautilus
[18:30] <fccf> colin100121: you could run gksudo nautilus ..
[18:31] <bankix> colin100121: Open the terminal and start typing.
[18:31] <colin100121> that's perfect :D
[18:31] <colin100121> thanks frostburn
[18:31] <Darkorical> I foresee problems with that as what if someone makes row 10 on one server with one set of information and someone else makes row 10 on a different one with different info  and then they try to sync
[18:31] <frostburn> Darkorical, you can do a dual master setup, but that'll require changes on your schema, like no auto increment fields, your only other option is mysql proxy
[18:31] <colin100121> I'm still getting to grips with ubuntu after 20 years on windows
[18:31] <jennie> Hi wass up
[18:32] <jennie> i need a help
[18:32] <frostburn> Darkorical, this really should be a question for #mysql and not #ubuntu
[18:32] <thiebaude> colin100121, i understand that
[18:32] <frostburn> !ask | jennie
[18:32] <Guest20520> what all can i do with ubuntu linux?.
[18:32] <frostburn> Guest20520, everything but run osx and play windows games =P
[18:33] <fnord23> Hi
[18:33] <fccf> Guest20520: almost anything
[18:33] <Guest20520> hello jeenie
[18:33] <Xerran> Guest20520: I have been using it for a week now and pretty much everything in windows
[18:33] <fsuj> How can I install Firefox? (I already downloaded the.tar.gz file and extracted)
[18:33] <[manas]> jedc, ok im back first how i can delete all configuracion which one i made
[18:33] <thiebaude> Guest20520, everything i do in ubuntu i did on windows xp
[18:33] <jedc> Guest20520, a more appropriate question, what cant you do?
[18:33] <jennie> frostburn i am updating the nvidia driver i have the .run file at my desktop and by pressing crtl +alt +f2 i am able to login as root user but dont know what to do after that :-(
[18:33] <frostburn> fsuj, firefox is already installed in ubuntu, if you want to run 3.5, install it from the repositories
[18:34] <Darkorical> I agree on that part but they want me to make both servers mirror eachother and what ever system I choose to use do acheive that I wish for it to be able to handle the mysql aspect of it as well
[18:34] <alankila_> jennie: tried to just install nvidia-glx-180 or something?
[18:34] <Xerran> I finally learned to stop with the Open Sound madness and just got with the creative abs driver :)
[18:34] <Xerran> *labs
[18:34] <colin100121> bankix, tried moving the file then package manager complains it cant find the file
[18:34] <jennie> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.18-pkg1.run
[18:34] <Soul> sogol
[18:34] <fsuj> frostburn: And how do I access the repositories?
[18:35] <alankila_> jennie: ok, but are you aware that you can probably get this same stuff from ubuntu repositories too?
[18:35] <frostburn> Darkorical, do you want a HA setup? if so, i'd recommend block level mirroring between the two servers with a san
[18:35] <colin100121> do I just move all the gb.archive. files?
[18:35] <frostburn> fsuj, system > admin > synaptic package manager
[18:35] <wiiguy> i have a question i have a pentium 3 (no dvd or floppy drive) how can i make this into a small server ?
[18:35] <yoga> How do I list the file to be installed in a deb package file?
[18:35] <jedc> [manas], um, if you do a "ps -e | grep ssh" then for each line that is ssh (not sshd or ssh-agent) "kill <the number on that line>"
[18:35] <fnord23> private
[18:35] <frostburn> jennie, is there a specific reason why the installed nvidia drivers won't work?
[18:36] <jennie> the installed driver are not updated
[18:36] <linex> fccf: Separate X Screen or Twinview ?
[18:36] <jennie> i want to update the current installed driver
[18:36] <Xerran> Question: if I download a driver to desktop and install it from the desktop directory, is it safe to delete it once installed?
[18:36] <jedc> jennie, did you try System->Administration->Hardware drivers?
[18:36] <DaZ> jennie: 173 is old >:
[18:36] <DaZ> what card do you have ? :f
[18:36] <ejv> wiiguy: what OS is currently on it?
[18:36] <Xerran> delete the downloaded file i mean
[18:36] <wiiguy> none os
[18:36] <fccf> linex; Twinview probably .. up to you in any case ... are you running nvidia-settings as root?
[18:37] <jennie> but how to install thru the root user
[18:37] <jennie> thru terminal
[18:37] <ejv> wiiguy: I suggest splurging for a usb cdrom then
[18:37] <DaZ> jennie:  sh filename
[18:37] <arcanez> is it possible to clone an ubuntu installation from one harddrive to another?
[18:37] <jedc> jennie, i dont know how to do it through terminal :p but it will prompt you for you password and do it as root
[18:37] <wiiguy> i heard something about network boot
[18:37] <linex> fccf: I wasn't at first but there was problem, so I sudo nvidia-setting
[18:37] <wiiguy> is that also possible ?
[18:37] <frostburn> arcanez, yes, you can use the command dd for that
[18:38] <linex> fccf: I know how Twinview turn out like. What it means Separate X Screen ?
[18:38] <[manas]> jedc, ok done
[18:38] <arcanez> frostburn: is there docs on that?
[18:38] <jennie> jedc , i logged in as a root but the command "dir" is not working coz i want to reach to desktop
[18:39] <frostburn> arcanez, man dd otherwise google it, there's plenty out there, just be careful of your arguments as you might inadvertently destroy your disk
[18:39] <nicklas_> yo
[18:39] <jennie> i logged in as a root but the command "dir" is not working coz i want to reach to desktop
[18:39] <[manas]> jedc, im gonna do now $ssh -D 9999 username@ip-address-of-ssh-server
[18:39] <thiebaude> wiiguy, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[18:39] <jennie> [23:08] <arcanez> frostburn: is there docs on that?
[18:39] <jedc> jennie, use cd or pushd to change directories, ls shows you everything in the current directory
[18:39] <wiiguy> ty will try it :)
[18:39] <fccf> linex: Twinview allows for dragging from one screen to another .. a seperate x screen is litterally another whole xserver, which requires alot more resources
[18:39] <jedc> [manas], ok, good
[18:39] <jedc> jennie, as i said though i dont know how to install the drivers from the command line
[18:40] <fccf> linex: were you able to detect the second display?
[18:40] <jedc> jennie, it does it as root from the graphical interface though
[18:40] <linex> fccf: Ah I see. Yes, I was able to detect the second display
[18:40] <thiebaude> wiiguy, i've used it many times
[18:40] <linex> fccf: in fact, I am already using Twinview right now.
[18:40] <wiiguy> thiebaude so it works good ?
[18:40] <jennie> jedc ok but how to go to desktop after logging as root user coz dir is not working
[18:41] <thiebaude> wiiguy, yes
[18:41] <wiiguy> ok :)
[18:41] <fccf> linex: once you save the config, restart your x server and you should be good to go ... although it might take you a few tries to get it working right
[18:41] <linex> fccf: just curious , how do I switch screens if I were using SeparateX screens ?
[18:41] <jedc> jennie, you dont need to log in as root user, and i dont know what dir does, from your normal user account go to System->administration->Hardware drivers
[18:41] <[manas]> jedc, done http://paste.ubuntu.com/252057/
[18:42] <linex> fccf: I can just drag the mouse across.
[18:42] <wiiguy> thiebaude when i find out how it completty works and wich os i want on it i will try it :D
[18:42] <[manas]> jedc, so now i can try to connect?
[18:42] <linex> fccf: I think I should just forget about separate X screen
[18:43] <jedc> [manas], ok, so now open firefox on the same machine you just typed that in
[18:43] <fccf> linex: dual-head = 2 mice 2 KB 2 Vid .. One CPU
[18:43] <thiebaude> wiiguy, ok
[18:44] <jedc> [manas], then go to edit->preferences
[18:44] <linex> fccf: ok I think its not for me. Twinview is more like the one in Windows.
[18:44] <jedc> [manas],  click on advanced, then the network tab, then settings
[18:44] <linex> fccf: What about Xinerama, is that synonymous with Twinview ?
[18:45] <fcontacte> hello all
[18:45] <kickAss> hello : fcontacte
[18:45] <jedc> [manas], are you there?
[18:45] <[manas]> jedc, doent work
[18:45] <jedc> [manas], what do you mean? you havent set it up yet?
[18:46] <colin100121> bankix, thankyou for your help, I ended up removing all the files in the folder and re-running the package manager to fix it
[18:46] <[manas]> it says proxy server refused connection
[18:46] <fccf> linex: different creature entirely .. duplicating displays
[18:46] <jedc> [manas], did you go to the settings? im trying to walk you through this
[18:46] <linex> fccf: In what use case scenorio would one use separate X screen
[18:47] <kickAss> any motu out there?
[18:47] <fccf> kickAss: try #ubuntu-motu
[18:47] <bankix> colin100121: Did that work out good?
[18:47] <ahz> Is there a special package I need for my English Ubuntu to show GTK+ apps such as Gedit in Ukranian?
[18:47] <kickAss> thanks: fccf
[18:47] <[manas]> jedc, u mean put proxy yes i did
[18:47] <linex> fccf: You mean Xinerama and Twinview is different ?
[18:47] <colin100121> had to move all the files in the folder but it got package manager working again thanks
[18:47] <fccf> linex: yep.. confusing isn't it
[18:47] <colin100121> also meant a very large update
[18:48] <linex> fccf: In what use case scenorio would one use separate X screen
[18:48] <jedc> [manas], for the SOCKS proxy put <IP_ADDRESS> (your loopback ip) and for the port put 9999
[18:48] <Master_> is there a C++ channel?
[18:48] <ninjaslim> Master_ /join #c++
[18:49] <Master_> thnx
[18:49] <jedc> [manas],  i dont know what the problem is because i dont know how you tried to set up the proxy
[18:49] <fccf> linex: you probably wouldn't, primairly for classroom use
[18:49] <linex> fccf: ok. Thanks
[18:49] <joakimk> I'm about to format my HD, to reinstall a dual boot with XP and Ubuntu. However, before I begin, what are the tools I'll need? What do I use to partition the disk?
[18:49] <Guest20520> so what outher thing's you can do with a linux
[18:50] <rski> Guest20520: whatever you want.
[18:50] <jedc> joakimk, just the ubuntu cd, it has a partitioner that will run when you are installing
[18:50] <MaskedDriver> rski, +1
[18:50] <icarus> how do i set up a static ip address in 9.04
[18:50] <Guest20520> i what to do a lot
[18:50] <joakimk> jedc: So you're suggesting I install Ubuntu before XP?
[18:50] <fccf> joakimk: install XP first ... after is is installed it will repartition the windows disk and use the rest of the drive
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> Guest20520, well, Linux is completely open-source, so you can LITERALLY do whatever you want with enough know-how and a little sweat
[18:51] <joakimk> fccf: Do you mean the Ubuntu installer will repartition the drive?
[18:51] <fccf> joakimk: yep
[18:51] <jedc> joakimk, i havent done this myself, but that would work, also you can install xp first, then resize it smaller and setup the rest of the partitions furing the ubuntu install if you want
[18:51] <[manas]> jedc, i know how to use proxys , just when i put it to firefox is just doesnt work like i put some bad one
[18:51] <Guest20520> can u become a hacker useing a linux
[18:51] <minimec> joakimk: Give one big partition ro winXP, then seperate the linux diskspace, to give /home its own partition. I would give 10-15 GB to the / and the rest for /home.
[18:51] <MaskedDriver> joakimk,  I always install Windows first
[18:52] <colin100121> or do what I did and buy a seperate drive for ubuntu
[18:52] <MaskedDriver> colin100121, +1
[18:52] <colin100121> I have XP on one drive and Ubuntu on the other
[18:52] <fccf> joakimk: I find it alot easier to install XP first, unless you have 2 physical HD's
[18:52] <ahz> 'sudo apt-get install language-support-translations-uk' does not show gedit/GTK+ apps in Ukranian.  Am I missing something?
[18:52] <Guest20520> can you become a hacker useing a linux
[18:52] <Guest20520> ?
[18:53] <jedc> Guest20520, using linux wont make you a 'hacker' but it is still fun and interesting and you can learn a lot, and it is a great platform for programming and other activities that 'hackers' often engage in
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> Guest20520, -1 for trolling
[18:53] <Guest20520> what is trolling
[18:53] <MaskedDriver> joakimk, make sure you install grub, or you won't be able to get back into Windows
[18:53] <Guest20520> ?
[18:53] <durt> ahz, you need to be running the ukranian translations, ask in the ukranian channel.
[18:53] <joakimk> fccf: But if I install XP first, it will "eat" the entire drive, no? So Ubuntu will simply reformat a partition "from" XP?
[18:53] <maco> Guest20520: being a jerk, saying things to get a rise out of people
[18:53] <maco> !trolling | Guest20520
[18:54] <grawity> joakimk: Ubuntu will just resize the XP's partition to make some space.
[18:54] <frostburn> joakimk, you can define in the windows xp install what partition to install to
[18:54] <joakimk> MaskedDriver: But grub I can install at any time within Ubuntu, right?
[18:54] <Supersaiyan_IV> Guest20520, answer, no, go to a different channel do discuss hacking
[18:54] <jedc> [manas], i dont know what the problem is, i suspect there is a problem setting up the SOCKS proxy, but i cant help since i dont know how you did it
[18:54] <minimec> joakimk: you can define the exact diskspace you want to give XP in the XP setup/installation tool.
[18:54] <MaskedDriver> joakimk, give me 1 second... I'll get you a really good documentation on duel-booting
[18:54] <[manas]> jedc, maybe i need something to be intall on ubuntu some socks packedge or something
[18:54] <fccf> joakimk: ubuntu will 'shrink' the windows drive, and give you the choice of how much
[18:54] <joakimk> MaskedDriver: :)
[18:55] <jedc> [manas], did you use localhost? or <IP_ADDRESS> for the host, because ive tried and had problems using localhost
[18:55] <joakimk> fccf: Sounds great! Then I don't need to hassle with PartitionMagic and the likes?
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> joakimk, http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_linux_xp_installed_first.htm
[18:55] <joakimk> fccf: Seem to remeber the last time I needed a floppy drive... :(
[18:55] <MaskedDriver> follow this step-by-step and you won't have any problem
[18:55] <jedc> joakimk, gparted, the partition editor included in the install cd works great
[18:56] <lintel> Hi,
[18:56] <lintel> I'm trying to provide Brasero a set of FLAC files, in order
[18:56] <lintel> to burn it on a 700Mb CD-R.
[18:56] <lintel> After clicking on "Burn", it blocks at the "Normalizing tracks" step.
[18:56] <ahz> durt: The problem is I don't actually know Ukranian!   I am a developer testing a Ukranian translation quirk for my app
[18:56] <FloodBot3> lintel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <MaskedDriver> jedc, though it can take a while to use.  I hate to say it, but Vista/Win7's partitioner is much quicker
[18:56] <[manas]> jedc, IT WORKING
[18:56] <[manas]> jedc, i used local host
[18:56] <fccf> joakimk: If you download the desktop cd ... ubuntu will load the entire operating system from the disk allowing you to test things... don't worry . windows will still be there with a full ubuntu OS running from the CD
[18:57] <[manas]> jedc, but it works whit <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:57] <vlad_> why is the interfaces file empty
[18:57] <jedc> [manas], thats great :D
[18:57] <userone> hey! I'm back. i modifed my grub bootloader to boot vista, but now my other laptop is hung at the grub> command prompt. what do i enter to get back into ubuntu?
[18:57] <MaskedDriver> joakimk, that URL is for 8.04, but the same basic rules apply for 9.04,
[18:58] <[manas]> jedc,  but that on a same machine how to make it working on a diferent??
[18:58] <durt> ahz, then you know more than me, better to ask in #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu-motu.
[18:59] <joakimk> fccf: jedc, MaskedDriver: Thanks guys :)
[18:59] <jedc> [manas], the same way, set up a tunnel to the host and then configure firefox to use the socks proxy
[18:59] <jedc> joakimk, no problem, good luck with the install
[18:59] <vlad_> all i have in it is auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[18:59] <MaskedDriver> userone, short answer -> you're cooked...
[19:00] <jedc> MaskedDriver, i can believe it, gparted takes a while, but i know it works and i dont have or trust windows :p
[19:00] <MaskedDriver> userone, question: is Ubuntu your #1 OS or your secondary one and is there anything super important on it?
[19:00] <kaddi> a stupid question about command line: I use "ls | grep 200906" to find all files having 200906 in the name and I want to open alll these files with kate. How do I do that?"ls | grep 200906|kate does not work, niether does"ls | grep 200906>kate
[19:00] <[manas]> jedc, ssh-server is on <IP_ADDRESS> so i put everything on ohter machine but it doent work
[19:00] <MaskedDriver> jedc, I've found Window Vista/7's partitioner is fantastical
[19:00] <minimec> userone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:01] <grawity> kaddi: kate $(ls | grep 200906)
[19:01] <userone> MaskedDriver: it says error 8: kernal must be loaded before booting. so the question is, how do I load the kernal
[19:01] <MaskedDriver> it's really quick and I've had more problems accidentally overwriting my Windows data with gparted
[19:01] <userone> minimec: thanks, let me look
[19:01] <kaddi> grawity awesome, thanks!
[19:01] <grawity> kaddi: Or, better: find . -name '*200906*' -exec kate "{}" \;
[19:01] <MaskedDriver> userone, read minimec's forum thread
[19:01] <jgoo> ulimit has a way of limiting a process to a cpu time - is there a way of limiting a process to a realtime?
[19:02] <kaddi> grawity woah, that looks complicated. What is the difference between the 2 commands? Does find look outside the actual folder?
[19:02] <[manas]> jedc even on same machine  where is shh-servr it didnt work when i tryed to use <IP_ADDRESS> ip it only wokred when i used  <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:02] <jgoo> kaddi, find is horrendously programmed
[19:02] <grawity> kaddi: The 'find' one looks inside subfolders -- and it also won't break if filenames have spaces.
[19:03] <grawity> kaddi: And, what jgoo said.
[19:03] <heatmzzr> how do i install (correctly) a .tar.gz file?
[19:03] <jgoo> kaddi, more tha once I've had to which find / see what version I am running because of a bug, and the API was written by someone from Alaska
[19:03] <jedc> [manas], i dont understand, what are you trying to do? you need a ssh server running on whichever machine you want to use as a proxy, when you set up <IP_ADDRESS> as your host on port 9999 it is actually going through the ssh tunnel you set up and using the machine withe the servers port 80 for internet
[19:03] <MaskedDriver> heatmzzr, .tar.gz is a compressed file like .zip... you need to uncompress it
[19:03] <MaskedDriver> heatmzzr, then there is a very good chance there is documentation on how to install the software inside of there
[19:03] <jgoo> heatmzzr, tar -xvf nameof.tar.gz
[19:04] <vlad_> COME ON
[19:04] <jedc> heatmzzr, to uncompress right click and extract here, or tar -xzf filename like jgoo said
[19:04] <Caerbannog> heatmzzr, you really need to uncompress it, cd into folder and read the "install" or 'readme' file
[19:04] <jgoo> grawity, ulimit - as I feared, only does cputime limits... can I put a shell / process up that will reliably an hero after a certain time?
[19:05] <kaddi> grawity and jgoo thanks :) I'll stick to grep as long as it works then. :p (I just want to look through my IM logs, all in the same folder, no spaces.)
[19:05] <grawity> jgoo: Besides "sleep 15; kill -9 pid"?
[19:05] <jgoo> grawity, oooooooh. wow. simple solution... I like... will I have the pid then... hrm, I'd need to grab it using that script I wrote...
[19:05] <jedc> [manas], so i think you have it working how you wanted it to
[19:06] <[manas]> jedc no
[19:06] <[manas]> jedc 1 sec
[19:06] <grawity> jgoo: If you are starting the app using &, then try $! or something.
[19:06] <jgoo> grawity, I have code that runs and kills a process, but under high loads, the server, get this... cannot message the processes reliably within 1 second, so the message is ignored. wow.
[19:06] <jgoo> grawity, this might be work looking at
[19:07] <grawity> kill -9 is always reliable :)
[19:07] <grawity> jgoo: pgrep/pkill may also be useful if you know the process name but not the pid.
[19:07] <jgoo> grawity, actually I am using kill -9 --- I can't figure out how it doesn't run :(
[19:07] <ahz> the answer to my question was 'sudo apt-get install language-pack-gnome-uk' to show gedit/GTK+ apps in Ukranian
[19:07] <jgoo> I know the process name! grawity, I renamed all the processes per thread, to make my life easier... nice
[19:07] <MaskedDriver> ahz, +1
[19:08] <[manas]> jedc 1 basicly i got desktop whit shh-server which one i wwant to make proxy server so i can use internet at work :))) but for now im trying to test it whit my laptop on which one connection doent work
[19:08] <jgoo> killall -p 9 procname   @grawity
[19:08] <jgoo> (its unique anyway)
[19:08] <jedc> grawity, wow, i never knew about pgrep, thanks a ton
[19:09] <grawity> jedc, jgoo: And pidof.
[19:09] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to install webmin from apt-get but it requires some stuff, but those things are not bieng installed automtiacally [dependencies]
[19:09] <Ushaib> Hi. I'm trying to burn an audio CD with Brasero, and it's hell to add music files. It says I can drag files from the file manager, but when I click a file in Nautilus, Brasero is minimized (rather than just losing focus), and I can't drag any files to it. Adding files manually is hell because the file dialog doesn't remember my last directory: I have to click 5 times before I get there, for every single file.
[19:09] <jedc> [manas], so you made the ssh tunnel and you were using firefox on your laptop correct?
[19:09] <Ushaib> Is this (the minimizing of Brasero when I click a file in Nautilus) a bug with Nautilus or with Brasero?
[19:09] <danbhfive> !webmin | codeshah
[19:09] <codeshah> danbhfive, thanks
[19:09] <codeshah> !ebo
[19:09] <codeshah> !ebox
[19:09] <[manas]> jedc yes but it doent work
[19:10] <maco> Ushaib: doesnt brasero have a filebrowser built in?
[19:10] <phenomenon> Is any one aware of a linux mass downloader,, so that you can enter a url,, and select/retrieve all downloads on the page?
[19:10] <jedc> [manas], what does work? because you said it worked earlier when you changed it to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[19:10] <codeshah> danbh, do you use ebox?
[19:10] <maco> phenomenon: wget -r <url>
[19:10] <[manas]> jedc i didnt on my desktop
[19:11] <MaNU_> how can i create my own irc channel?
[19:11] <maco> phenomenon: thatll grab the page and everything it links to
[19:11] <jgoo> MaNU_, what do you want it called?
[19:11] <grawity> MaNU_: Just /join #channelname. Ask in #freenode for more help.
[19:11] <MaNU_> ilugiitd
[19:11] <MaNU_> kk thanks
[19:11] <Ushaib> maco: thanks. I did not know about this. It really should be in the default view. The average user is not going to know to click View > Show Side Panel
[19:11] <jgoo> MaNU_, that channel already exists!
[19:12] <haf1z> guys, im using nvidia graphics. but need to enable the hardware..
[19:12] <haf1z> do u guys know how to enable it?
[19:12] <maco> Ushaib: i thought it was, but then i havent used it in about a year, so it couldve changed
[19:12] <MaNU_> jogo:how do u know that
[19:12] <jgoo> MaNU_, you do know how to join channels, right?
[19:12] <maco> haf1z: sytem -> administraton -> hardware drivers
[19:12] <MaNU_> yes
[19:12] <jedc> [manas], you didnt what?
[19:12] <jgoo> MaNU_, type /join thenameofthechanneltoseeifitexists
[19:13] <jedc> [manas], the internet on the laptop is going through the desktop
[19:13] <jgoo> MaNU_, riiiight.... so what do you think you should do?
[19:13] <jgoo> MaNU_, think about it carefully... you want to know if a channel exists... you know how to join channels... take your time.
[19:13] <MaNU_> yeah i can join that channel
[19:13] <[manas]> jedc that what i wanted to do
[19:13] <MaNU_> but there is nobody there
[19:14] <jgoo> MaNU_, are you sure? but you said you want to create a channel...
[19:14] <MaNU_> yeah i want to create channel
[19:14] <jedc> [manas], yes, that is what it is doing when you say <IP_ADDRESS> port 9999, all firefox know is it gets internet on 9999, but it is really using port 80 of your desktop because you made the ssh tunnel
[19:14] <jgoo> right... what did I just say then?
[19:14] <MaNU_> so i have created by joining
[19:14] <haf1z> maco: i got this Sorry, the Jockey backend crashed?
[19:14] <phenomenon> Is any one aware of a linux mass downloader,, so that you can enter a url,, and select/retrieve all downloads on the page?
[19:14] <haf1z> maco: whats is tat?
[19:14] <firecrotch> phenomenon: wget
[19:14] <jgoo> MaNU_, yes, create it by joining. Or, to put it another way, you aren't going to explode your computer by typing /join
[19:14] <MaNU_> now i just have to announce it to the members right?
[19:15] <haf1z> maco: i want to install new updates
[19:15] <jgoo> ... MaNU_ right...
[19:15] <jedc> MaNU_, assuming you created a new one then there wont be anyone else in there
[19:15] <sburwood> I don't know where to look.  Are there any games out there for the Summer and/or Winter Olympics?
[19:15] <detrix> Hello everyone.  I am writing a program, actually a tutorial in gtk.  I am trying to compile it, in C.  it compiles but the linker spits out a bunch of "multiple definitions"  I have been trying to track this down in the forums, but I have not seen an answer. So I am asking here.
[19:15] <jedc> MaNU_, otherwise you joined one people were already using
[19:15] <jgoo> MaNU_, try joining it then
[19:15] <MaNU_> kk
[19:16] <[manas]> jedc, so is it posible somewho to make it working on my laptop?
[19:16] <MaNU_> jgoo:i have type /join in terminal
[19:16] <MaNU_> ??
[19:17] <jgoo> exactly where you are typing now
[19:17] <jedc> [manas], which computer did you type the ssh -D command and were setting up the proxy in firefox on?
[19:17] <jgoo> instead of typing ?? type
[19:17] <bhaskar> hello everybody
[19:17] <MaNU_> kk
[19:17] <jgoo>  /join #thename ofthechannel
[19:17] <phenomenon> firecrotch, thanks firecrotch
[19:17] <[manas]> jedc, desktop
[19:17] <phenomenon> blah
[19:17] <jedc> [manas], if it was your laptop then you have it working, otherwise the ssh tunnel is a little redundant
[19:18] <CaptainCrook> anyway to sudo save project file in systemfile from a gui app?
[19:18] <MaNU_> thanks everyone
[19:18] <jedc> [manas], that is the problem, you need to do the ssh command from your laptop and then setup the proxy exacty the same way on your laptop
[19:18] <jgoo> MaNU_, you didn't join a channel yet though
[19:18] <jgoo> MaNU_, pro-tip, just try it now
[19:19] <linex> fccf: I have been playing with Twinview for the last 15 minutes. It seems that When I maximise a window, the window is 'stretch' across the two screen. Is this normal ?
[19:19] <jedc> [manas], you dont need to do anything on the desktop, it is running the ssh server fine.
[19:19] <[manas]> jedc ok let me try
[19:21] <wiiguy> wich os is best for a simple game server and bouncer ya think ?
[19:21] <haf1z> guys, i cant watch utube vids.
[19:21] <codeshah> hmm, trying to install ebox but there are unmet dependencies... it seems like a circular loop... ebox-all: Depends: ebox-communication but it is not going to be installed
[19:22] <jedc> wiiguy, hehe, this is probably a biased place to ask a question like that :p
[19:22] <[manas]> jedc, which ip adrees i need to put now my laptop or desktop??
[19:22] <haf1z> need to install flash player. any1 guide me pls
[19:22] <danbhfive> codeshah: can you pastebin the error?
[19:22] <codeshah> I have main, restricted and universe repositories
[19:22] <codeshah> danbhfive, k
[19:22] <jedc> [manas], in the ssh command you put your desktop, in the proxy configuration is it the same, <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:23] <jgoo> this is a h asl e to do on my system now
[19:23] <codeshah> danbh, http://paste.ubuntu.com/252069/
[19:23] <[manas]> jedc aaaa now i get it
[19:23] <jedc> [manas], yay! :D
[19:23] <codeshah> danbh, also, I think it was installing it before but it got interrupted in the middle... through apt-get, maybe that messed something up
[19:23] <haf1z> someone can help me regarding flashplayer isntallation pls
[19:23] <[manas]> jedc just let me try it first
[19:24] <haf1z> Error: Wrong architecture 'i386' when i want to instal flash player
[19:24] <codeshah> dan, http://paste.ubuntu.com/252071/ is another one... if I literally tryto install everything according to the community docs
[19:24] <danbhfive> codeshah: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:24] <bullhound> i have a problem accessing internet ,whenever i shutdown my pc and again switch it on the connection is gone .But i still receive packets ....
[19:24] <codeshah> danbh, 9.10
[19:25] <codeshah> danbh, on a linode setup i386
[19:25] <xorred> how can I install ubuntu Server 8.04 from USB?
[19:25] <xorred> no CD in my server
[19:25] <randomLik> hey hey hey, can someone who knows tell me whats the thing about fglrx and jaunty. any way to get that working? I DID read docs and end up nowhere! And im not total linux newb. ://
[19:25] <danbhfive> codeshah: 9.10 is not support here, sorry.  try +1  (it makes sense that there are broken packages, as it hasn't been released.  If you want it to just work, use 9.04)
[19:26] <ikonia> !install > xorred
[19:26] <__theIdiotBox> randomLik, thats the graphics driver
[19:26] <randomLik> indeed it is
[19:26] <randomLik> im trying to get it working
[19:26] <codeshah> danbh, sorry
[19:26] <codeshah> danbh, 9.04 argh
[19:26] <Gm4n> I'm trying to get windows dual booting with ubuntu, but XP doesn't boot successfully. Does windows have to be on the first partition of the drive?
[19:26] <codeshah> danbh, I am switching between windows here and got numbers messed up
[19:26] <__theIdiotBox> randomLik, what kinda of information you want? be specific
[19:27] <wiiguy> wich os is best for a simple game server and a bouncer ya think ??
[19:27] <jedc> xorred, System->administration->USB startup disk creator  to make the usb, then like a normal install
[19:27] <Revrus> xorred, you can use unetbootin
[19:27] <codeshah> danbh, Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l :) sorry about that... is there een a 9.10 hah
[19:27] <donspaulding> I've installed Jaunty, upgraded to Karmic, installed Windows 7 on another partition, and now I'm in a Jaunty LiveCD, how can I reinstall grub as my boot loader and have it dual boot both windows and karmic?
[19:27] <[manas]> jedc it telling me adress is in use how i can delet t?
[19:27] <ikonia> Gm4n: that's a ##windows question
[19:28] <ikonia> !9.10 > donspaulding
[19:28] <codeshah> danbh, how can I find out what packages on my system may be broken, I guess is the main question... ?
[19:28] <jleeblanch> can Kubuntu read Windows file system NTFS? Only ask because i have an external 250GB hard drive with basically my life on it
[19:28] <codeshah> !9.10 > codeshah
[19:28] <jedc> [manas], when you try ssh? or with firefox?
[19:28] <Gm4n> ikonia: I guess so... I'm pretty sure it's my poor grub config though.
[19:28] <danbhfive> codeshah: ok, I still don't have the package ebox-all, so I don't think I can help
[19:28] <ikonia> Gm4n: what is the error when it boots ?
[19:28] <jleeblanch> anyone?
[19:28] <MadGirl> i heard anyone was using xorg-server with USE=minimal?
[19:28] <randomLik> well i would like to know whats the right way to install it. following instructions from docs didnt get me any success, and i was reading about incompatibility with fglrx and x server in jaunty
[19:28] <codeshah> danbh, ah, yes... it is from ebox's own repository ... I should go ask them eh?
[19:29] <Gm4n> there's no error; the windows boot screen appears for a second then the laptop reboots
[19:29] <jedc> jleeblanch, yes it can
[19:29] <xorred> dudes don't send me this... I know that Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways
[19:29] <xorred> I CAN"T install via USB
[19:29] <xorred> the Server edition
[19:29] <jleeblanch> ok, thank you!!
[19:29] <xorred> notice - Server
[19:29] <FloodBot3> xorred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:29] <ikonia> Gm4n: doesn't sound like anything to do with grub
[19:29] <ikonia> xorred: why ?
[19:29] <userone> donspaulding: WAIT! I just used the live cd to do that with vista  and the filesystem is now messed up
[19:29] <xorred> it dies on second reboot
[19:29] <xorred> I follow all online instructions I can find
[19:29] <randomLik> umwh too crowdede here :&/
[19:29] <ikonia> xorred: define "dies"
[19:29] <xorred> second reboot - and it can't find the "CD"
[19:29] <Gm4n> ikonia: well, it didn't appear in the grub menu.lst, so I had to code it in myself. After some futzing around, I got it this far, but I'm not sure I set it all up right
[19:29] <danbhfive> codeshah: yeah, and I only have 0.12 ebox available.  Maybe you should check your sources?
[19:29] <[manas]> jedc ssh
[19:30] <donspaulding> userone: which FS? ubuntu or windows?
[19:30] <codeshah> danbh, do you have it installed from the ubuntu repositories? Maybe I should do that
[19:30] <xorred> I even created a special USB with the special initrd etc as in all online instructions I could find
[19:30] <ikonia> Gm4n: if it starts to boot, grub has done it's thing,
[19:30] <xorred> nothing works for me
[19:30] <randomLik> if there is any expert who can help me with fglrx and jaunty feel free to PM me!
[19:30] <aksci> please help! the front audio jack of my cabinet doesn't work except for system beep!
[19:30] <ikonia> xorred: second reboot ??? there should only be one reboot, install then reboot
[19:30] <xorred> so if anyone installed ever the server from usb...
[19:30] <xorred> yea first reboot sorry
[19:30] <danbhfive> codeshah: I don't have it installed, but I'm looking at the version numbers, etc
[19:30] <userone> donspaulding: ubuntu
[19:30] <ikonia> xorred: how far does it get to boot before it complains
[19:30] <jedc> [mamas], try ps -e | grep ssh and kill the ssh process's, its probably running a tunnel from when you tried earlier
[19:30] <xorred> install - reboot - and it needs to mount the "CD" again
[19:30] <Kris07> Hi, I just have a quick question. Is there a way to put your album art on to your iPod?
[19:31] <userone> donspaulding: i followed this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[19:31] <[manas]> jedc doesnt work on laptop
[19:31] <jedc> [manas]* my bad
[19:31] <codeshah> danbh, ok, now installing from main repositories, deleted the ebox repos...
[19:31] <xorred> the Server for 8.04 does reboot once and then continue with the installation after the reboot
[19:31] <donspaulding> userone: with jaunty or karmic?
[19:31] <xorred> but it can't as it can't find the CD
[19:31] <xorred> and it's a USB...
[19:31] <guntbert> xorred: did you know that there is a channel #ubuntu-server too?
[19:31] <xorred> design flaw
[19:31] <xorred> no
[19:31] <ikonia> xorred: it's not a design flaw
[19:31] <xorred> joining
[19:31] <ikonia> xorred: it's user error
[19:31] <FloodBot3> xorred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <jedc> [manas], try a different port then, like 9900
[19:31] <xorred> no it is as most servers don't have CD...
[19:31] <[manas]> jedc i did
[19:31] <userone> donspaulding: i admit i could have made the error, so just use with caution. JJ 9.04 64bit
[19:31] <[manas]> jedc i did 9998
[19:31] <ikonia> xorred: nonsense, but that's not for this channel
[19:31] <xorred> why did they have to make it so hard to install from usb?
[19:32] <jedc> [manas], what is the error?
[19:32] <[manas]> jedc and it doesnt work
[19:32] <xorred> ikonia: you ever installed from usb the server?
[19:32] <danbhfive> codeshah: yeah, if you are using ebox repos, you should ask them about getting it working
[19:32] <xorred> if not stfu
[19:32] <ikonia> xorred: they didn't, it sounds like you've not got the process
[19:32] <ikonia> xorred: never done a server install, but done the desktop many times, and it's the same thing
[19:32] <xorred> it sounds you're talking stuff you never did
[19:32] <xorred> lol same thing
[19:32] <xorred> you make me laugh
[19:32] <[manas]> jedc its no error in ssh just firefox doesnt connect to internet
[19:32] <donspaulding> userone: I upgraded to Karmic precisely because Jaunty 64 kept screwing up my FS.
[19:32] <Revrus> xorred, do you have another machine running ubuntu or debian on your network?
[19:32] <guntbert> !attitude | xorred
[19:32] <Kris07> Hi, I just have a quick question. Is there a way to put your album art on to your iPod?
[19:32] <Revrus> xorred, you can do a pxe install
[19:32] <jedc> xorred, you need to make sure the boot order is looking for usb, not all bios's support booting from usb, ubuntu-server is basically ubuntu without a graphical desktop environment, not very different
[19:33] <ikonia> !install > xorred
[19:33] <ikonia> xorred: double check the steps in the link ubottu has sent you
[19:33] <jedc> [manas], oh, an you changed the proxy configuration to use the same port as with ssh?
[19:33] <xorred> no jedc, it mounts ok the first time
[19:33] <xorred> but it can't find the "CD" on first reboot after the initial setup steps
[19:33] <ikonia> xorred: double check the steps in the link ubottu has sent you
[19:33] <Revrus> xorred, did you try a pxe install?
[19:34] <xorred> lol ikonia... ok I'll just /ignore
[19:34] <firecrotch> xorred: After the first reboot, your system should be good to go
[19:34] <xorred> Revrus: I'll try pxe
[19:34] <jedc> xorred, if you are trying to install software then you should edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the cd, just use the network
[19:34] <ikonia> xorred: why is that funny, have you checked the URL that ubottu sent you
[19:34] <xorred> firecrotch: you've never installed the server too, right?
[19:34] <[manas]> jedc, first time i heart what
[19:34] <ikonia> xorred: it walks you through the process
[19:34] <[manas]> jedc, first time i heart that
[19:34] <userone> donspaulding: fortunately i just finished fresh installs of vista and jaunty. looks like I will have to start again
[19:34] <xorred> no it does Not, as it's a USB install of the SERVER
[19:34] <xorred> not the Desktop
[19:34] <ikonia> xorred: the desktop and server install are the same process
[19:34] <[manas]> jedc, how to do it?
[19:34] <jedc> [manas], what?
[19:35] <Revrus> xorred, this will require another machine running linux https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[19:35] <xorred> lol ikonia
[19:35] <ikonia> xorred: you move the file systems to the usb stick and it boots them
[19:35] <Kris07> Hi, I just have a quick question. Is there a way to put your album art on to your iPod?
[19:35] <blue0488> I need help seeing my cpu temp in ubuntu 64 nothing is working
[19:35] <xorred> try installing a server from usb ok?
[19:35] <proq> ubuntu won't let me launch a process as one user in another user's display, including root (which IMO doesn't make sense).  is there a way to change this?
[19:35] <firecrotch> xorred: Actually I HAVE installed ubuntu-server, considering that all of my servers run it
[19:35] <userone> donspaulding: i even used ext4, so i wasn't expecting many problems
[19:35] <xorred> I run only linux on all my machines Revrus
[19:35] <ikonia> xorred: try listening and reading, the process is the same
[19:35] <[manas]> jedc, sorry i wrote something else
[19:35] <ikonia> xorred: the image you use will be different but the process is the same
[19:35] <xorred> ikonia, please stop ok
[19:35] <donspaulding> userone: I was in the same boat.
[19:35] <ibuclaw> I agree with ikonia
[19:35] <[manas]> jedc, yes i chnage same port in ssh and firefox
[19:36] <ibuclaw> I've done far too many installs to know the process inside out
[19:36] <ibuclaw> it is all the same ;)
[19:36] <Jmart> damn this is a big channel
[19:36] <jedc> [manas], did ssh give the same output as on your desktop?
[19:36] <[manas]> jedc, yes
[19:36] <xorred> dudes, unless you DID it, shut up please... you're the ones talking nonsense ... server != desktop install
[19:36] <Revrus> xorred, ive done it, its the same thing
[19:36] <strange> hey guys anyone have a guide so i can resize my main partition and make a small 3gb partition from taht?
[19:36] <ikonia> xorred: drop the attitude now
[19:37] <grawity> [manas]: http://sine.cluenet.org:8080/~grawity/trash/firefox-socks-config.png
[19:37] <userone> donspaulding: i had looked online quite a lot before moving to 64 jaunty. there was no mention of it being unstable now.
[19:37] <jedc> xorred, ubuntu-server is exactly the same to my knowledge, just doesnt install as much by default...
[19:37] <randomLik> fglrx and ubuntu 9.04 - how to get it working?!   >_>
[19:37] <MaskedDriver> can someone +b him please?
[19:37] <ibuclaw> +1
[19:37] <jedc> xorred, you could strip down normal ubuntu and have the same install
[19:37] <megra> strange, try the livecd with gparted
[19:37]  * proq has installed the server from usb
[19:37] <strange> megra: oh to add difficulty through ssh the box is remote :)
[19:37] <__theIdiotBox> any one well versed with PAE , currently i'm running jaunty 32 bit and having 4 gig ram..as my kernel is not able to access beyond 3gig, i want to enable support for that using PAE...anyone using this feature plz help me out.
[19:38] <ibuclaw> xorred, you could use UNetBootIn to copy the Server ISO onto the USB pendrive
[19:38] <Revrus> xorred, since you seem so paranoid that your talking to inexperienced people, ive done this for a friends machine as a replacement for a bsd server which he was starting to completely hate, its the same process
[19:38] <userone> donspaulding: anyway, the vista should be intact. that takes ages to reinstall. jj 64 is very quick in comparison, and i have good backups of the data
[19:38] <jedc> [manas], im not sure then, if ssh worked, then firefox should, you sure you did everything on your laptop this time right? nothing on the desktop?
[19:38] <[manas]> grawity, i know does the way i done
[19:39] <megra> strange, well, there are some tools in command line, but i don't know them. And I hope you are not willing to resize the / partition, cause it will fail (ssh still used)
[19:39] <[manas]> jedc, yes only on the laptop nothing on desctop
[19:39] <Kris07> Hi, I just have a quick question. Is there a way to put your album art on to your iPod?
[19:39] <apoleo12> When I type sudo fsck, /dev/sdc5 is mounted, I get a message says 'WARNING!!! running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause severe filesystem damage. Do I really want to continue?
[19:39] <[manas]> jedc, maybe because i was trying on desktop before?
[19:39] <megra> apoleo12, no you don't !
[19:40] <strange> megra: thats indeed what im planning :)
[19:40] <Revrus> Kris07, not sure exactly how the ipod does its album art, but with an mp3 player i had, as long as you have the album art file in the same folder as the song, it should show it
[19:40] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, without recompiling kernel with PAE, you're only option is 64bit I think.
[19:40] <megra> apoleo12, you need to unmount the partition first : sudo umount /dev/sdc
[19:40] <danbhfive> !fsck > apoleo12
[19:40] <apoleo12> megra: so what command is it to check the HDD for intergity?
[19:40] <jedc> [manas], yes, maybe restart both so you know you dont have any processes lingering from before, dont do anything with the desktop and try again?
[19:40] <guntbert> !ipod | Kris07 have you seen
[19:40] <jedc> [manas], basically it should work heh :p
[19:40] <Kris07> Revrus, Nah that doesn't work
[19:40] <[manas]> !iphone
[19:40] <megra> apoleo12, but you will maybe have some errors ("device still in use")
[19:41] <apoleo12> I see
[19:41] <__theIdiotBox> okey..was just googling ...and yes that is the only option i guess: ibuclaw ...thanks..let me see the viability of this option...
[19:41] <Kris07> Guntbert, I don't have a problem adding tracks, just the album art
[19:41] <[manas]> jedc, i know but it didnt :P
[19:41] <megra> apoleo12, however, you can force the check at startup via a command (which i forgot)
[19:41] <[manas]> jedc, ok let me restart hoppuly it will after
[19:41] <apoleo12> I had a bad crash earlier... was wondering how the OS and HDD integerity are now
[19:41] <guntbert> Kris07: sorry, I cannto help, but usually those "hints" contain several usefuls links
[19:41] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, ooh ... it looks like the server kernel has PAE enabled
[19:41] <guntbert> *cannot
[19:42] <apoleo12> megra: you forget? ha ha that is useless :P
[19:42] <Seemless> just a question dos this xchat take comads like irc? so linke /server ect
[19:42] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[19:42] <apoleo12> megra: what happens if I didnt unmount it?
[19:42] <guntbert> Seemless: yes...
[19:42] <Seemless> thx
[19:42] <ibuclaw> (if you haven't done so already)
[19:42] <megra> apoleo12, do you want to check the / partition  ?
[19:42] <Seemless> :)
[19:42] <jedc> apoleo12, if it is messed up it will probably run fsck automatically when you boot it next time
[19:43] <maito> hello
[19:43] <megra> apoleo12, if so, :     sudo touch forcefsck           ; adn then reboot
[19:43] <Blizzeand> !hello
[19:43] <apoleo12> megra: yea if I need to be...?
[19:43] <megra> apoleo12, if so, :     sudo touch forcefsck           ; adn then reboot
[19:43] <apoleo12> jedc: Ok thanks for the info
[19:43] <apoleo12> I'll note that down
[19:43] <maito> does the ubuntu install/livecd have ntfs-3g?
[19:43] <bullhound> [jedc]whenever i restart my pc i am not able to connect to the net but its working fine with other computers which have windows and ubuntu 8
[19:44] <ibuclaw> maito, yes
[19:44] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw, thanks...but i need to re-compile the kernel...googliing gave me the same information...nobody is talking about recompiling the kernel...i'm a missing something?
[19:44] <maito> ibuclaw: great, thank you. :) is there a source that shows what the cd contains?
[19:44] <rufensis> Does anyone know where I can find my config file for the network manager vpn client?  I set up a vpn yesterday, but I'd like to examine the actual config file and cannot find it in /etc/ppp/peers/
[19:44] <jedc> bullhound, can you connect once the computer boots up?
[19:44] <megra> apoleo12, or just (reboot + fsck) :    shutdown -rF now
[19:45] <apoleo12> megra: -rF is reboot fsck?
[19:45] <userone> ok, before i break another install, has anyone a more reliable way of getting vista to appear on the grub boot menu without following this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371530
[19:45] <ibuclaw> maito, in aptitude. Tasks -> Unrecognised Tasks -> ubuntu-live -> ntfs-progs
[19:45] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw, i guess that command install PAE enable kernel..thats it..no compiling needed, right? but will that kernel be the bleeding-edge..as I keep my system updated on almost daily basis...?
[19:45] <blue0488> I am using a i7 cpu and I am unable to get the cpu temp from lm-sensors can anyone help?
[19:46] <bullhound> [jedc] only after sometime when i try to reenable the network it again connects
[19:46] <rufensis> I am, btw, fully connected with the vpn I set up.  It works fine, so I want to export the config to a home media server and operate through terminal
[19:46] <Revrus> userone, thats the best way to do it
[19:46] <apoleo12> megra: ok I see those denotes.
[19:46] <megra> apoleo12, yeap :)
[19:46] <apoleo12> megra: one more thing if I could?
[19:47] <userone> Revrus: ok,i'll try again. i followed that thread and then nothing would boot. just went to grub> prompt
[19:47] <nyterage> I'm using nonstandard port for Postfix SMTPD because my isp filters port 25, like most do. The problem now is that nobody else will be able to email me because of course their SMPTD servers only know to connect to my servers on port 25. So I'm wondering what I have to do to get around this?
[19:47] <Revrus> userone, make sure that you change nothing before the ## ## End Default Options ## ## line
[19:47] <jedc> bullhound, this is an issue with your wireless card and drivers, i have some of those issues myself, wicd might worked better for network-manager, but i dont know, i dont know much about that
[19:47] <apoleo12> megra: each time I boot I get into grub menu... and I had to select since it couldnd find the path....
[19:47] <OH_U_MAD> Hello
[19:48] <Revrus> userone, also make sure (hd0,0) is the actual location of your Vista partition, it isnt always taht
[19:48] <Brazz> You know sometimes I wonder.... Using Script for support might somehow make me vunerable, afterall I have no security whatsoever active atm while using my Ubuntu 9.04... Would there be anti-virus/firewall for linux/ubuntu 9.04 that I could use or any other internet security device that I should be awared of?
[19:48] <OH_U_MAD> I need help with Ubuntu
[19:48] <mac_v> OH_U_MAD: | !ask
[19:48] <Brazz> OH_U_MAD: be more specific pal.
[19:48] <mizipzor> the (proprietary, i think) drivers for the inter integrated gfx cards found in the package repository is giving one of my games (run through wine) problems... are there any open source drivers (or similar) in the repository i can try?
[19:48] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, the linux kernel is a security update, anything that is updated in generic will be updated in server.
[19:48] <userone> Revrus: so how can i check?
[19:48] <OH_U_MAD> Ubuntu will not start up
[19:48] <mac_v> !ask | OH_U_MAD
[19:48] <OH_U_MAD> what do i do
[19:48] <maito> ibuclaw: I have a laptop that wont boot to windows, I will take backups using the livecd (from internal hdd to external hdd, both use ntfs)
[19:48] <nyterage> #linux
[19:49] <krishalpin> Hello guys - new to ubunto, really struggling to get started!
[19:49] <Karmic> Stop spam, read a book!
 Ubuntu will not start up
[19:49] <Revrus> userone, umm...blank mind atm, umm...idk ._.
[19:49] <krishalpin> sorry i just noticed the typo!
[19:49] <guntbert> nyterage: ask in ##networking, but you should nut run your own private mail server attached to the internet if you are not *well* experienced with mail servers
[19:49] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, it's just that server enables a few more options/optimisations than what generic has been compiled with.
[19:49] <jedc> brazz, probably not neccesary, especially if you are behind a router
[19:49] <bullhound> [jedc] can u give me any links regrading those issues . . .
[19:49] <maito> ibuclaw: it's going to be an all-nighter ;) thanks for your help
[19:49] <guntbert> *not run
[19:49] <userone> Revrus: ok,no worries. at least i know now that i should CHECK that!! :-)
[19:50] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw, and i guess all the packages that i use will be the same on that kernel as well. or do i need to re-install those pacakges?
[19:50] <nyterage> all-nighters are fun!
[19:50] <guntbert> !ot | nyterage
[19:50] <ibuclaw> maito, yep, that should work just fine... I've done it plenty of times with friends/my own workstation
[19:50] <codeshah> what sftp software should I use hmm
[19:50] <Brazz> jedc: hehe, I believe its necessary, I need to use my credit card and manage bank accounts... without internet security is to give a lot of information I dont want away.
[19:50] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: for the new pae-enable kernel
[19:50] <nyterage> guntbert, it's for a develolopment machine... and everything is 100% secure, non open relay
[19:50] <Brazz> *is to give information away that I dont want to give away*
[19:50] <nyterage> and besides, how else do you learn ?
[19:50] <Pelo> afternoon folks
[19:51] <OH_U_MAD> iss someone going to help me or what
[19:51] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, installing the pae-enabled kernel will need no further action other than install + reboot
[19:51] <OH_U_MAD> ..
[19:51] <guntbert> nyterage: lets take it to ##networking
[19:51] <nyterage> uhuh
[19:51] <Revrus> could somebody tell userone how to check what partition his windows drive is on for grub? my minds blank atm
[19:52] <mac_v> OH_U_MAD: simply saying "ubuntu wont start" is not helpful... describe in more detail , if anyone knows they will help
[19:52] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, here is a good page of reference: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[19:52] <Pelo> I started a print job with the printer turned off,  decided that I didn'T want to print it so I removed it from the print queue gui , but when I turn the printer on , it still tries to print gibberish , how would I stop it doing that ?
[19:52] <alongenemylines> Revrus - fdisk -l
[19:52] <mizipzor> how do i check which video driver the x server is using?
[19:52] <Revrus> userone, fdisk -l
[19:53] <Pelo> mizipzor, chech in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:53] <userone> Revrus: if i get the location of the vista partition wrong, why should that stop grub from booting into ubuntu? thats the problem i had
[19:53] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: thanks...and i'll not create any issues with my current/existing packages, right? so i think i should install that...and i guess later on i can remove/disable that as well, right?
[19:53] <yung3r> всем привет
[19:53] <Karmic> In order to use fdisk -l you need to use sudo
[19:53] <Brazz> You know sometimes I wonder.... Using Script for support might somehow make me vunerable, afterall I have no security whatsoever active atm while using my Ubuntu 9.04... Would there be anti-virus/firewall for linux/ubuntu 9.04 that I could use or any other internet security device that I should be awared of?
[19:53] <ikog_> If I run stuff like "export BLAH=something" from a #!/bin/bash script, it doesn't actually set the variable, if I run it line by line from the prompt, it does. Can anyone explain why?
[19:53] <Brazz> !firewall
[19:53] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: thanks
[19:53] <Revrus> userone, it shouldnt, you must of messed up something in the default options too, or it corrupted when you saved
[19:53] <jedc> brazz, what i mean is, ubuntu is not vulnerable to viruses in the same way that windows is, and if you are giving out your credit card info etc the real security concern is whether you trust the website and whether they handle your information securely
[19:54] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, I only advise that if you use any restricted packages (ie: NViDIA drivers), de-activate them first, then install the server kernel, then when you reboot, activate them again.
[19:54] <jedc> brazz, however you could setup firestarter, which is a firewall, i dont have any experience with that though
[19:54] <ikog_> ah apparently I should run it with "source"
[19:54] <Brazz> jedc: that was more of an answer I was looking for.
[19:54] <Brazz> jedc: thank you.
[19:55] <mazda01_> how would I go about connecting to an x11vnc server at home when the x11vnc server is running on a machine on my internal network, i want to tunnel it through ssh but the problem is that the ssh server is running on comp1 but i want to see the x11vnc server running on comp2. i do have ssh access to comp2 is i first go to comp1. can soneone please assist?
[19:55] <userone> Revrus: ok, so if fdisk says /dev/sda1 start..1 then the entry should be hd0,1 and not hd0,0?
[19:55] <Brazz> jedc: I always liked more to play safe than sorry.
[19:55] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: i'm on dell 1555 that uses ati mobility radeon graphics: fglrx drivers i guess. btw, how to disable that any idea on that?
[19:55] <ejv> you can always compile your own kernel into a hardened profile
[19:55] <ejv> to enhance your security
[19:55] <alongenemylines> mazda01: if you want to do nice, fast x11 over ssh, look into freenx
[19:55] <Jeruvy> !kernel
[19:56] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, if it isn't in System->Administration->Hardware Drivers. Then you should have nothing to worry about.
[19:56] <mazda01_> do i need to setup a vpn on the server that has the ssh server running which i have access to from the outside world?
[19:56] <ibuclaw> Brazz, what type of firewall setup were you looking for?
[19:56] <Revrus> Brazz, while there IS viruses for linux, they are no more then local email spammers, and things that might copy things that are at  /home/user/ directory and anywhere else, linux uses permisiion system that will not allow any program to write anywhere but places it has permission, so a virus would have to get root permission, and you would have to give it your root password
[19:56] <zion_> jedc, i restarted now but when i do command it doesnt to nothing just freeze
[19:56] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: yes its the only one out there
[19:56] <ejv> features like grsecurity, pax, provide protections against stack smashing, buffer overuns, etc.
[19:56] <[manas]> jedc, i restarted now but when i do command it doesnt to nothing just freeze
[19:57] <alongenemylines> mazda01: you shouldn't need a vpn, just make sure you have the proper ports forwarded
[19:57] <ejv> and that bot is wrong, you should by all means play with the kernel, this is linux for crying out loud
[19:57] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[19:57] <ibuclaw> Brazz, if you are behind a router, you are protected full stop ... so long as you aren't port forwarding/triggering
[19:57] <__theIdiotBox> i guess i can click on remove and that will de-activate that, right? : ibuclaw
[19:57] <Revrus> userone, sda1 would be (hd0,0)
[19:57] <grawity> ejv: Ubuntu is Linux for newbies.
[19:57] <eth01> how do you set permissions on a file?
[19:57] <jedc> [manas], ssh? try "ping ipofdesktop" to make sure there is a route to the computer
[19:57] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, yeah
[19:57] <eth01> (777(
[19:57] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: thank you very much
[19:57] <dominik_> irc.icestarirc.org
[19:57] <jedc> brazz, i was referring to what revrus mentioned
[19:57] <ejv> grawity: its not, although it tends to have a large newcomer population
[19:58] <planet8> wtf is the cpufreq_conservative module remove from the generic kernel?
[19:58] <Brazz> Thank you very much guys, you've been rather helpful.
[19:58] <mazda01_> alongenemylines: so i would need to forward what ports. the x11vnc server is running on comp2 port 5900 and I am ssh'd into the comp1 right now. not sure how to set this up which is why i am asking
[19:58] <[manas]> jedc, my mistake sorry put wrong ip dumb
[19:58] <Brazz> jedc: I was just worried, nothing specific, just worried.
[19:58] <jedc> [manas],  hehe
[19:58] <ibuclaw> Brazz, no problem, though it is just my opinion that having a firewall installed on your OS just protects you from people within your own network.
[19:58] <CrAzYoNi> What is the name of the application that allow to run Windows applications under Ubuntu?
[19:59] <userone> Revrus: thats what i did before, following the thread. oh well, i will just try again.
[19:59] <jedi06> how do i download flash for firefox
[19:59] <jedc> Brazz, understandable, especially if you are coming from a windows background where there is a real danger or keyloggers and trojans being on your computer and such
[19:59] <Brazz> jedc: got a few books to read, "Practical UNIX and Internet Security" is among the "Must read" list.
[19:59] <ibuclaw> It's the router's job is to drop packets from the outside world...
[19:59] <alongenemylines> mazda01: if you're just trying to vnc to a home pc from an outside network, just set up the port forward on your router.
[19:59] <Brazz> ibuclaw: would you recomend any firewall?
[19:59] <alongenemylines> jedi06: install adobe-flash-plugin through apt-get or synaptic
[19:59] <ibuclaw> Brazz, that would depend on what you want out of your firewall.
[20:00] <Revrus> Brazz, while i agree with ibuclaw, i believe that firewalls are a tad useless overall, because all they do is block ports for servers taht you would try to be using, and only help when there is an unkown server being ran with secfurity flaws in the coding
[20:00] <mazda01_> alongenemylines: im not at home and the only port i am ever going to open on my home router is port 22, which is already open.
[20:00] <Brazz> jedc: indeed, its hard to believe in a place with no crime when you come from somewhere that crime rates are high.
[20:00] <Revrus> userone, ok then, good luck
[20:00] <ibuclaw> Brazz, if you want "locked down and never to be opened", then I recommend configuring iptables yourself.
[20:00] <mazda01_> alongenemylines: i want to tunnel everything thru the ssh tunnel, like internet browsing and vnc and what not.
[20:00] <jedi06> alongenemylines, i see flashplugin-installer
[20:00] <[manas]> jedc doesnt work
[20:00] <jedi06> and  it is already installed alongenemylines
[20:01] <Brazz> I just dont want to be invaded or somehow get keylogged.
[20:01] <ibuclaw> Brazz, if you want "locked down but flexible", then gufw is probably the route to go down.
[20:01] <jedc> [manas], the firefox part?
[20:01] <userone> Revrus: thanks. if I am not back online soon,you will know everything went well! :-) bye!
[20:01] <Brazz> ibuclaw: I just want not to be invaded or somehow get keylogged.
[20:01] <Revrus> userone, ok then
[20:01] <jedi06> alongenemylines, also flashplugin-nonfree
[20:01] <caty> Heya, I was wondering how you delete programs with terminal, I'm new to this sort of thing. Thank you.
[20:01] <ibuclaw> Brazz, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[20:01] <fccf> mazda01: you can tunnel X over ssh with ssh -X user@host
[20:02] <Brazz> ibuclaw: Thank you!
[20:02] <ibuclaw> Brazz, no need to worry about keyloggers ... mostly just crackers/rootkits
[20:02] <yojesus12> i got a problem its not serious i guess but it just bugs me when i turn on my computer their is no boot screen its just black any ideas?
[20:02] <alongenemylines> mazda01: if ssh is the only port you're going to keep open, and only to 1 syste,. you can either ssh-X to each (which raw x11 packets are very slow), or if you're wanting vnc-like desktops, you need to use freenx
[20:02] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: was just looking at that link you mentioend....someone is talking about VMware being not supported by this server kernel...as i heavily use VMWare/VBox...thta might be a problem...any idea/advice on this?
[20:03] <mizipzor> to get a game working in wine i was suggested to "try another video driver"... how would i go about that? i know the exact model/name for the card and chipset... but the package repository doesnt give me any good hits
[20:03] <edbian> yojesus12: You need to edit your kernel options and throw in some vga=<somenumber>
[20:03] <edbian> yojesus12: PM me
[20:03] <Brazz> ibuclaw: I just dont want someone to get in and see things I dont wish to show anyone, if you know what I mean.
[20:03] <jedc> [manas], are you doing this with a local ip on a LAN?
[20:03] <[manas]> jedc, yes
[20:03] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, hmm... I wouldn't anything on that. (I use kvm myself).
[20:03] <yovan> Hi every one
[20:04] <jedc> Brazz if you dont run any type of server then there isnt much of a chance of that
[20:04] <fccf> CrAzYoNi: that is 'wine' for questions about 'wine' ask in #winehq
[20:04] <alongenemylines> mazda01: freenx will go compeltely over port 22, although with your current setup, you'd have to remote to your comp1, then from there, remote to comp2.  honestly, i d it from time to time from work, to my home, to another sytem at home.  i have 10mbps/1mbps at home, and it's not that slow really
[20:04] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: fiine...thanks
[20:04] <Jeruvy> __theIdiotBox: the best solution is not to use the unsupported kernel.
[20:04] <Brazz> jedc: Thank you pal, and no, I dont run a server.
[20:04] <yovan> I'm new on ubuntu and have installed the latest vesrsion of ubuntu : 9.04
[20:04] <jedi06> i already have flashplugin-nonfree it is not working
[20:04] <__theIdiotBox> Jeruvy: meaning there by?
[20:05] <aurax> sup folks
[20:05] <alongenemylines> jedi06: which release of ubuntu are you running?
[20:05] <aurax> any idea how to solve execvp: No such file or directory
[20:05] <yovan> I cannoyt rip a cd to mp3
[20:05] <fccf> !enter | yovan
[20:05] <jedi06> 9,04
[20:05] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, I believe for vmware it is 'sudo vmware-config.pl' to recompile the driver. and /etc/init.d/vboxdrv to recompile the virtualbox driver. But if you have dkms installed, it should do what it can for most things.
[20:05] <ikonia> aurax: what are you trying to do
[20:05] <jedi06> alongenemylines, x64 9.04
[20:05] <alongenemylines> ah, x64
[20:05] <fccf> !codecs | yovan
[20:05] <mazda01_> fccf: my host machine i am on right now at jury duty is a powerbook g4 running mac os X 10.5.6. i want to check out my computer on my internal network, but the only port that's open is 22 and that's to the main file server. so i want to first ssh into the file server, then can't i create a tunnel from the file server to the computer I want to connect to? then run x11vnc thru that tunnel?
[20:05] <CrAzYoNi> Thanks fccf :)
[20:05] <race321> salut
[20:05] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, I haven't used vmware since 1.0.6 though ;)
[20:05] <race321> jai un bug
[20:06] <race321> sur ubuntu
[20:06] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: i have no idea about dkms...
[20:06] <jedc> [manas], can you show me the ssh command you did and the output in pastebin?
[20:06] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: i use both vm and vbox heavily
[20:06] <jedc> [manas], and the proxy information you used?
[20:06] <race321> un probleme de son
[20:06] <alongenemylines> mazda01: you'll need to ssh -X from your laptop, to comp1, then ssh -X to comp2 from comp1
[20:06] <yovan> Thanks but sound juicer does not work
[20:06] <caty> Can someone please help, thanks. I was wondering how you delete programs with terminal, I'm new to this sort of thing. Thank you.
[20:06] <race321> qui peut maider
[20:06] <guntbert> !ot | mazda01_ please ask in ##networking
[20:06] <ikonia> !fr | race321
[20:06] <muxxx> guys, I am looking for some help with using jaunty on my old laptop. the problem is that I couldn't enable DMA on the HDD. CPU load during disk operations is 100%. hdparm -i reports that DMA is supported, but getting/setting it reports an incorrect ioctl. BIOS doesn't support setting DMA. both the HDD and the chipset support DMA. any ideas?
[20:06] <Jeruvy> __theIdiotBox: I think you are asking 'what does that mean?' and that would be full support in a vm.  vs. NO or incomplete support in a vm
[20:06] <aurax> ikonia, ionice
[20:06] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, if when you reboot and things don't quite work, you can easily reboot and go back into the generic kernel, then uninstall the server kernel.
[20:06] <ikonia> aurax: pardon ?
[20:07] <multiverse> I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 64bit.  I installed VMWare, then applied patches.  After patching is done I get this error message:  http://pastebin.com/d592b207
[20:07] <yovan> sound juicer run on a terminal shows "segmentation fault"
[20:07] <jedc> caty, ps -e will show you currently running processes and find the pid of the one you want to kill, then you can type kill <pid>,
[20:07] <yovan> can  u help me with that.....
[20:07] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, installing a new kernel isn't a big thing in Linux. Everything is made to work like lego, snapping on and off.
[20:07] <guntbert> caty: use: sudo apt-get remove <package-name>
[20:07] <jedc> caty, or pgrep <programname> to get the pid
[20:07] <Revrus> multiverse, try "sudo apt-get remove vmmon"
[20:07] <jedi06> in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins i have flashplugin-alternative.so
[20:07] <aurax> ikonia ionice in /usr/bin
[20:07] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: yes you are right...i should give it a try...its just like putting a new kernel...i can always fall back on the older/working kernel
[20:07] <Jeruvy> multiverse: follow it's instructions ,they are not compatible.
[20:08] <ikonia> aurax: well it's missing the command it wants - so you'll have to install it
[20:08] <caty> Thank you!! jedc and guntbert :)
[20:08] <ikonia> multiverse: 3rd part vmware support is in #vmware
[20:08] <ikonia> multiverse: the compatability is nothing to do with ubuntu
[20:08] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, I just wish I had the privilege to have > 4GB of RAM, then I would test it out for sure :)
[20:08] <guntbert> caty: what did you want to do: uninstall or stop the program?
[20:08] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: i
[20:08] <Bharani> how to install sun jdk 6 in ubuntu jaunty jackalope?
[20:08] <fccf> mazda01: does your "File Server" have an X server running?
[20:09] <guntbert> !java | Bharani
[20:09] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: i'm going to install those thigns to enable PAE...lets hope for the best...thank you guys....
[20:09] <ibuclaw> __theIdiotBox, I'll see you in a few minutes.
[20:09] <AbortedFajitas> Hello All.  I am hoping someone can help me..  I have setup LDAP auth on Ubuntu so that the CIO of my company stops bitching about having two seperate passwords.  But the only problem is, it is still asking for both the Unix password and LDAP password when authenticating.  Is there any way to make it just ask for the LDAP password?
[20:09] <yovan> is there a french ubuntu forum guys?
[20:09] <caty> guntbert, Un-install a program.
[20:09] <ibuclaw> just ping if you need any further assistance
[20:09] <fccf> !fr
[20:09] <ikonia> yovan: not that I'm aware of
[20:09] <Bharani> @ubottu - I am not looking fot JRE. I'm looking for JDK
[20:10] <__theIdiotBox> ibuclaw: sure :-)
[20:10] <AbortedFajitas> I'm guessing I would have to change a pam.d\common file?
[20:10] <guntbert> caty: for uninstallation my command was the right one
[20:10] <alongenemylines> jedi06: i use 32 bit...  i've seen on various sites about people installing an alpha version of adobe's flash plugin for 64 bit.  i've also seen people install 32 bit firefox and adobe flash.  search the ubuntu forums, i'm sure you'll find plenty of how-to's there
[20:10] <[manas]> jedc, http://pastebin.ca/1526944
[20:10] <ikonia> jedi06: I assume you have flashplugin-nonfree installed ?
[20:10] <jedi06> yes
[20:11] <ikonia> jedi06: what version  ?
[20:11] <caty> guntbert, Yerp I know.
[20:11] <jedi06> i'm using x64 apparently there are problems
[20:11] <ikonia> jedi06: I'm on it now - no problem
[20:11] <guntbert> caty: ok:)
[20:11] <[manas]> jedc, and proxy <IP_ADDRESS> 9996
[20:11] <jedi06> ikonia, 9.04
[20:11] <ikonia> jedi06: what version of the flashplugin-nonfree package
[20:11] <guntbert> !ldap | AbortedFajitas
[20:11] <multiverse> Jeruvy had the most productive answer.  Thank you.
[20:11] <spO> have any of you made a custom kernel? How do you install proprietary drivers like ati/fglrx on a custom kernel? I compiled 2.6.30 kernel , but i cannot install fglrx for it
[20:11] <jedi06> ikonia <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:11] <ikonia> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[20:12] <ibuclaw> sp0 I use nvidia ... I just get the drivers from the manufacturer website
[20:12] <guntbert> spO: custom kernels are not supported here
[20:12] <jerkman> hey, i am running out of disk space, i know th obvious solutions, but is there a compression option
[20:12] <ikonia> jedi06: did you have it working then upgrade - or clean install it (flash plugin)
[20:12] <jedi06> ikonia <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntuo<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:12] <guntbert> !kernel | spO but
[20:12] <jedi06> ikonia, don't remember
[20:13] <jerkman>  /msg ubottu stages
[20:13] <ikonia> jedi06: can you show me the output of dpkg -l | grep flash please
[20:13] <ikonia> jedi06: use the pastebin if it's long
[20:13] <guntbert> jerkman: don't type a blank at the start of your line (/ must be the first character)
[20:13] <jedc> [manas], it looks like you did "ssh -D 9996<EMAIL_ADDRESS>from the desktop, you need to do it from the laptop
[20:13] <jerkman> hey, i am running out of disk space, i know th obvious solutions, but is there a compression option
[20:14] <fccf> jerkman: you got a space before the /msg
[20:14] <[manas]> jedc, i did from laptop
[20:14] <jerkman> guntbert: fccf thanks, i realise
[20:14] <ikonia> jerkman: the command is "compress" and it can compress files
[20:14] <jerkman> ikonia: will the files still be openable
[20:14] <jedi06> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/d727583f9
[20:14] <ikonia> jedi06: no, you'd have to uncompress them
[20:14] <jedi06> what
[20:14] <jedc> [manas],  "zion@zion-desktop:~$ ssh -D 9996<EMAIL_ADDRESS>your laptop is named zion-desktop?
[20:14] <ikonia> jedi06: sorry not you
[20:14] <jerkman> the files are in constant access, ikonia
[20:14] <fccf> jerkman: perhaps clean your apt cache to start
[20:15] <innomen> Why can't i take out gedit without deleting "ubuntu desktop" What exactly does ubuntu desktop encompass? the whole computer to me falls under "ubuntu desktop"
[20:15]  * dann any1 from belgium in here plz need a little bit help, if you don't mind
[20:15] <ikonia> jerkman: you'd have to uncompress them
[20:15] <ikonia> dann: just ask the channel
[20:15] <jerkman> fccf: how much space
[20:15] <innomen> its a crappy text editor and i want it gone
[20:15] <ikonia> innomen: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[20:15] <[manas]> jedc, no but i sver i didt in on laptop
[20:15] <firecrotch> innomen: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that depends on all the other software
[20:15] <jedc> innomen, the gnome desktop environment i think, geddit is a gnome program
[20:15] <firecrotch> innomen: it can safely be removed
[20:15] <ikonia> innomen: it only takes up a few k of space - why remove it
[20:15] <jerkman> ikonia: unfortunately not an option :p
[20:16] <innomen> firecrotch, oh good, cool
[20:16] <ikonia> jerkman: then you need to manage your storage better
[20:16] <muxxx> guys, could somebody help me with my libata (?) problem?
[20:16] <innomen> ikonia, it keeps getting in my way
[20:16] <fccf> jerkman: that's all the archives of every download, update, etc you have downloaded for ubuntu
[20:16] <ikonia> jedi06: what happens when you try to view flash
[20:16] <innomen> ikonia, also principal
[20:16] <Guest58782> innomen: ikonia, also principal
[20:16] <ikonia> innomen: get's in your way ?
[20:16] <Guest58782> ikonia: innomen: get's in your way ?
[20:16] <ikonia> Guest58782: what ?
[20:16] <Guest58782> ikonia: Guest58782: what ?
[20:16] <jedi06> ikonia it is just blank
[20:16] <jedc> [manas], try again from laptop and post output, maybe you posted the wrong output?
[20:16] <Guest58782> jedi06: ikonia it is just blank
[20:16] <jerkman> ikonia:  i have a 500gb drive, 89% full
[20:16] <Guest58782> jedc: [manas], try again from laptop and post output, maybe you posted the wrong output?
[20:16] <FloodBot3> Guest58782: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:16] <guntbert> innomen: you can tell nautilus to use another editor
[20:16] <jerkman> fccf:  how then...
[20:16] <mizipzor> to get a game working in wine i was suggested to "try another video driver"... how would i go about that? i know the exact model/name for the card and chipset... but the package repository doesnt give me any good hits
[20:16]  * dann can some1 from belgium please translate something for me
[20:17] <jedc> Guest58782, creepy...
[20:17] <ikonia> dann: try the belgium loco - this channel is not for translation
[20:17] <forceflow> dann: I'm from belgium
[20:17] <guntbert> dann: join ##translation, there is a bot that does that for you
[20:17] <innomen> ikonia, it's just annoying, there are a billion filetypes it's associated with
[20:17] <dann> forceflow: can i pm you plz?
[20:17] <forceflow> dann: go ahead
[20:17] <ikonia> innomen: associate them with something else
[20:17] <KB1JWQ> !pm
[20:17] <ikonia> dann: forceflow mega approach, thank you
[20:18] <KB1JWQ> !pm | dan
[20:18] <innomen> ikonia, yea i dont wanna argue about what i want :P
[20:18] <ikonia> innomen: ok - then don't, I'm just trying to stop you making a mistake for the sake of a few k
[20:18] <ikonia> innomen: remove it then
[20:18] <guntbert> innomen: you can always right click on a file, open with...
[20:18] <[manas]> jedc, it show the same i can make a screen prin if u dont trust me
[20:18] <innomen> could i tell the os to swap all gedity associations with scite in one go?
[20:18] <imran> I need help, I'm trying to get DRI on my Savage ProDDR (AkA "Twister") and need some help... Anyone???
[20:18] <jerkman> fccf: how do i do that then
[20:18] <alongenemylines> you can always use "preffered applications" to change the default editor
[20:19] <jedc> [manas], i think i know what happened, you did it once, and then did it again after you were logged into your desktop, try opening another terminal window and doing it
[20:19] <jedi06> should i just try to reinstall?
[20:19] <fccf> jerkman: sudo apt-get clean
[20:19] <innomen> alongenemylines, that sounds useful
[20:19] <jerkman> ok, thanks fccf
[20:19] <jedc> [manas], that is what ssh normally does is log into the machine, the -D option makes it so it also makes a tunnel
[20:19] <innomen> ikonia, why would removing gedit be a mistake? are the other wrong about "ubuntu desktop" being harmless to remove?
[20:19] <innomen> others*
[20:20] <imran> I need help, I'm trying to get DRI on my Savage ProDDR (AkA "Twister") and need some help... Anyone??????
[20:20] <ikonia> innomen: nothing, remove it
[20:20] <jedc> innomen, nothing wrong except gedit is easy to use for people who dont know how to use vim or emacs :p
[20:20] <cubiczee> anyone familiar with .srf files?
[20:20] <jerkman> fccf: made practically no difference, thanks tho
[20:20] <[manas]> jedc, it show same
[20:21] <guntbert> !anyone | cubiczee
[20:21] <AbortedFajitas> I setup my ubunto to auth with ldap.  Does anyone know how to setup Ubuntu so it only asks for the LDAP password when logging in via the GUI, and not the Unix password also
[20:21] <[manas]> jedc, on my laptop i got vista and im using puty maybe that why
[20:21] <jedc> [manas], but it didnt say zion@zion-desktop:~$ first right?
[20:21] <cubiczee> fair nuf :)
[20:21] <innomen> jedc, i love scite for basic text editing, if i want to format or process i'll just open open office, besides everything is easy to reinstall if needed, just got worried about that whole "its gunna take the whole desktop" with it
[20:21] <alongenemylines> if you remove the ubuntu-desktop package, there's possibilities that future distro updates may not work properly for you
[20:21] <cubiczee> I need to get a garmin working on ubuntu
[20:21] <ikonia> AbortedFajitas: can't do it like that
[20:21] <cubiczee> it has .srf files
[20:21] <AbortedFajitas> bah.
[20:21] <cubiczee> I need a gimp plugin
[20:21] <jerkman> is there anyway of compressing a drive but only files that havent been touched in a while
[20:21] <ikonia> AbortedFajitas: you auth against it - you get the uid/gid you authed against
[20:21] <innomen> thanks guys :)
[20:21] <[manas]> jedc, on the begining no
[20:22] <guntbert> AbortedFajitas: did the link from ubottu provide no help? I meant For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[20:22] <[manas]> jedc, dont remeber now
[20:22] <cubiczee> I'm not putting windows 7 on here for these stupid sony format files
[20:22] <[manas]> jedc, let me restart again
[20:22] <jedc> [manas], you are using putty to log into the desktop and then trying to ssh i bet, i dont know if putty can make a tunnel, but the command line options might be different
[20:22] <fccf> jerkman: how big of a hard drive do you have? and what kind of stuff are you storing on it?