[12:04] <Gin> how do I know what's using that module? any way to force unload?
[12:04] <eric> Seveas, do you strongly recommend it? or only if I experience problems?
[12:05] <MasterShrek> Gin, lsmod will last modules and their dependencies, you may need to remove a different modules that depends on snd_ca0106
[12:05] <MasterShrek> lsmod will list**
[12:05] <Creeture> x-fak: Then yes, it's worth it. Some nice new features in feisty and gutsy. You can't go directly from dapper to gutsy, so you have to go through edgy -> feisty -> gutsy (soon) or do a reinstall.
[12:05] <Seveas> eric, somewhere in between. I'd recommend it if you have the bandwidth, but if you don't want to: suits me as well :)
[12:05] <pmo_> anyone working with blender.. i have lost the select arrows.. arrows don't appear anymore, i don't know how to bring those back, any clues, on anyone where i can find some help, sounds blender chatroom is invite only ?
[12:05] <eric> Seveas, well I don't want to be downloading open office and tremulous again... kind of a waste of time
[12:05] <x-fak> ok Creeture thanks, i think i'll just format
[12:06] <gnizzub> quit
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, unless they are still in your apt cache :)
[12:06] <Creeture> x-fak: Wait a couple of weeks until gutsy is officially released. It's pretty stable now, but not perfect.
[12:06] <eric> Seveas, they stay there?
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, until you clean the cache (which is done automatically once every N days)
[12:06] <peter_> should i remove these packages so that libnet-perl can install.....doesnt make sense to me
[12:06] <soundray> Creeture: will it be perfect once released?
[12:06] <Seveas> eric, du -sh /var/cache/apt
[12:06] <eric> Seveas, they should still be there
[12:06] <soundray> Creeture: you don't have to answer that ;)
[12:06] <x-fak> ok Creeture i'ill wait new version then
[12:07] <eric> Seveas, okay I will reinstall all packages
[12:07] <eric> Seveas, thanks
[12:07] <Gin> master_of_master, anything to remove all its dependencies automatically?
[12:07] <Hilikus> hey guys, i installed a wiki using synaptic and it put everything under \usr\share, but apache only looks under \var\www, how do i make it access the wiki? should i do a symlink in www to the wiki dir?
[12:07] <Creeture> soundray: Yeah, it'll be perfect. All of these people will be running Gutsy Gibbin in a State of Nirvana and we'll be out of a job. That's what'll happen.
[12:07] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: Sort of.  Ubuntu boots to a prompt, so then I do "startx."  /etc/fstab is set to the GUI boot.
[12:07] <fyrestrtr> Hilikus: read the lamp tutorial, the section about virtual hosts :)
[12:07] <VWJ1bnR1> soundray: sorry, /etc/init.d
[12:07] <Hilikus> lamp tutorial? where is it?
[12:08] <Creeture> Hilikus: first, get out of Windows mode. Use your //// instead. Then, look at the apache documenation for the Alias and Directory directives.
[12:08] <Flats> Alsa or OSS if my system supports both, does it matter which I choose under sound preferences?
[12:08] <Flats> or will my system only configure for 1 or the other
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> !lamp
[12:08] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:08] <fyrestrtr> there
[12:08] <Seveas> Flats, if it supports both, use alsa
[12:08] <INTit> hi
[12:08] <Hilikus> Creeture how is creating a symlink windows mode??
[12:08] <Yourname``_> Hi. How can I setup VNC so I can logon even before I can logon to gnome? Like a service? Just like how I dont need to logion to gnome to be able to ssh from outside.
[12:09] <Flats> Cool, thats what I'm using
[12:09] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: boot again to the prompt, then don't start X. Do a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm', then 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start'. You should have GDM back after that.
[12:09] <Flats> thanks
[12:09] <Creeture> Hilikus: It's not. It's all of those \\\ that you kept using.
[12:09] <PyChild> Is there a way to install skype without it messing up my ubuntu?
[12:09] <Hilikus> windows mode would be to move the wiki to /var/www
[12:09] <soundray> VWJ1bnR1: have you set grub to boot to recovery mode by default?
[12:09] <Seveas> PyChild, install the .deb file from skype.com
[12:09] <Seveas> !skype | PyChild
[12:09] <ubotu> PyChild: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:09] <peter_> i have skype installed
[12:09] <peter_> works fine
[12:09] <peter_> on ubuntu
[12:09] <INTit> ive got a problem with ubuntu, just installed it on my laptop but it will only let me chooose 640 or 800*600 resolution and some windows dont fit on the screen
[12:09] <PyChild> Seveas thanks
[12:09] <INTit> can anybody help ?
[12:10] <SpiffyBalak> what command does System-->Preferences-->Removable Drives and Media run?
[12:10] <fyrestrtr> !fixres | INTit
[12:10] <ubotu> INTit: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:10] <mc44> SpiffyBalak: gnome-volume-properties
[12:10] <INTit> thanks!
[12:12] <christopher_> i have 32 mb vram and 3d graphics are enabled beryl will load and i can use compiz window manager but i get no effects at all can I get some help?
[12:12] <soundray> !beryl > christopher_, please read the private message from ubotu
[12:14] <Hilikus> fyrestrtr thanks, the tutorials great
[12:14] <usr13>  OpenOffice.org 2.3 is available for download now!
[12:15] <soundray> usr13: it's part of gutsy, too
[12:15] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, Sorry for  my elementary questions, but I am very new on that. I have a disk with 160 GB, what's your recommendation editing partitions, I want to know manually installation method, not to use Guided of course if you have time to tell me. I am on the step 5 of 8 ( prepare partition ) also have a disk 160041 free space ( i deleted the partitions ). I really appreciate your help!
[12:15] <dfsf> whats the equivalent of registry files in a NIX system?
[12:15] <kitche> bah my stupid speakers are to low to play music though them
[12:15] <aLeSD> how to reconfigure the xserver in de command line ?
[12:15] <jussi01> dfsf: registry files? what are they?
[12:16] <jussi01> :P
[12:16] <Xero> dfsf, *nix doesn't have anything remotely similar to the crappy Registry.
[12:16] <dfsf> Windows xp registry files
[12:16] <soundray> aLeSD: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:16] <poningru> b_wolf_007: what do you plan on using this for?
[12:16] <Xero> The closest thing I know would be GConf.
[12:16] <Seveas> Xero, gconf...
[12:16] <poningru> just desktop?
[12:16] <Seveas> heh ;)
[12:16] <poningru> then just let it do its thing
[12:16] <b_wolf_007> home pc
[12:16] <dfsf> Xero: I need to modify my Mac version of Starcraft "registry files" to use custom bnet servers
[12:16] <b_wolf_007> poningru, home pc
[12:16] <dfsf> I know how to do it in Windows XP but I cant figure out where this info is soted in Mac
[12:16] <vph> hey i got a question, how can i mount a sda device and get the live usercd to read the data on it?
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> vph: perhaps you need #macosx
[12:17] <poningru> b_wolf_007: yeah then just let the installer handle it
[12:17] <fyrestrtr> whoops, dfsf that's for you > #macosx
[12:17] <soundray> b_wolf_007: make a 12GB root (/) partition, 1GB swap and the rest /home. This should last you a long time. You might leave some unpartitioned space for installing a second system.
[12:17] <b_wolf_007> poningru, can you help me creating partitions, I'll do it right now
[12:17] <vph> oh
[12:18] <poningru> b_wolf_007: just go with 'use entire hard disk'
[12:18] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: i recommend at least 3 partitions one for swap (about the size of your ram or 1.5*) one for root (where everything is instaled configured etc about 10 Gib or) and one for holding /home/ (the users files)
[12:18] <IanLiu> How do I install GLib?
[12:18] <IanLiu> sudo apt-get install glib doesn't works
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> ok
[12:18] <b_wolf_007> thanks
[12:18] <soundray> IanLiu: it's installed. Ubuntu doesn't work without it.
[12:18] <vph> hey i got a question, how can i mount a sda device and get the live user cd to read the data on it??? when i try to do so with the system/admin/disks it says i am not the owner...
[12:19] <soundray> IanLiu: do you need it for compiling? Do a 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[12:19] <IanLiu> But I was trying to compile Geany, and it say I need Glib
[12:19] <soundray> IanLiu: ^^
[12:19] <INTit> hey i got a problem, im trying to setup the screen resolution and the tutorial has told me to restart xorg
[12:19] <Beefheart> are there any way to be super user in the windows mode?
[12:19] <IanLiu> hmmm
[12:19] <IanLiu> I think I already installed build-essentials
[12:19] <INTit> xorg is asking me to select a video card driver but im not sure which one
[12:19] <soundray> Beefheart: start the program in question from Alt-F2 with gksudo
[12:19] <INTit> any ideas ?
[12:19] <IanLiu> I will check it out
[12:19] <Xero> INTit, what video card do you have?
[12:19] <IanLiu> thanks
[12:20] <Creeture> IanLiu: Any reason to compile? geany is in the repository.
[12:20] <soundray> IanLiu: the actual package names are libc6*
[12:20] <Xero> Beefheart, it's called the SYSTEM user exploit.
[12:20] <IanLiu> But Its old version
[12:20] <INTit> i think its onboard graphics im on a toshiba laptop
[12:20] <Creeture> IanLiu: You could apt-get build-dev geany
[12:20] <soundray> !info geany | IanLiu
[12:20] <ubotu> ianliu: geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.2-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1314 kB, installed size 4328 kB
[12:20] <Xero> Don't use it. It's worse than having root on *nix, because Windows is virus prone.
[12:20] <IanLiu> I want to compile last SVN revision
[12:20] <soundray> !info geany gutsy | IanLiu
[12:20] <ubotu> ianliu: geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-2 (gutsy), package size 1421 kB, installed size 4424 kB
[12:20] <Beefheart> ?
[12:20] <vph> hwo do i start the file browsing app with gksudo??????
[12:21] <soundray> IanLiu: wait for gutsy, it'll come with 0.11
[12:21] <soundray> vph: gksudo nautilus
[12:21] <vph> danke
[12:21] <soundray> vph: immer gern
[12:21] <INTit> any ideas xero ?
[12:21] <pH1r3> hey there, is it possible to extract files from .rar files in ubuntu?
[12:21] <IanLiu> gutsy? =p
[12:21] <Poundo> just installed dapper for the first time and never was asked to make a root password now it won't let me su
[12:22] <pH1r3> because file roller says it cant
[12:22] <Flats> Does anyone know if you'll be able to do a simple upgrade from fiesty to gutsy or will you have to reinstall all over again?
[12:22] <Creeture> IanLiu: That's cool. Try the apt-get build-dep geany. Might give you enough to build the svn version.
[12:22] <vph> ah crap, now i got access to the directory but its empty
[12:22] <mc44> !rar | pH1r3
[12:22] <ubotu> pH1r3: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:22] <overclucker> vph: be very careful with that command
[12:22] <soundray> Beefheart: Hold Alt, press F2. In the dialog, enter 'gksudo ' and the name of the program you want to run as superuser.
[12:22] <soundray> !language | vph
[12:22] <ubotu> vph: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <overclucker> vph: is sda1 mounted?
[12:22] <Beefheart> ok thaNKS
[12:22] <IanLiu> Ok, I will try it! Acctually Im not at home, when I get there I will try ;) Thanks!
[12:22] <vph> overclucker: yes i used the disk tool on the admin menu
[12:22] <hoovooloo> test
[12:23] <soundray> hoovooloo: sorry, that didn't work.
[12:23] <Beefheart> Anyone here installed Anarchyonline on a linux PC ?
[12:23] <attunix> Hi. I'm new to Java and made a simple little program today. I have it compiled into a class; how do I make it executable? (I'm under Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn)
[12:24] <Poundo> no root password but my user account is fine as that was the only one i created does su default to something?
[12:24] <overclucker> vph, in console you can discover what is mounted by typing sudo mount, or by typing cat /etc/mtab
[12:24] <jrib> !root > Poundo (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:24] <IanLiu> !root > IanLiu
[12:24] <vph> overclucker: its mounted the file are just hidden
[12:25] <Poundo> duh don't know how to see private message sorry
[12:25] <vph> overclucker: or something
[12:25] <soundray> IanLiu: you can also '/msg ubotu root'
[12:25] <anthony> attunix: You can do it through right-click > properties or with chmod.
[12:25] <overclucker> vph, and ctrl-h shaw anything?
[12:25] <Creeture> attunix: There are better forums for that question, but in general, you'd do something like "java file.class" to execute
[12:25] <Xero> Hint: 16 more days till 7.04 is obsolete.
[12:25] <vph> overclucker: not in nautilus
[12:25] <anthony> Xero: that's not true - it's supported for 18 months.
[12:25] <overclucker> console?
[12:25] <IanLiu> Heheheh
[12:25] <attunix> Xero: not obselete; just old :)
[12:25] <vph> but sudo ls path shows it
[12:25] <attunix> anthony: thanks
[12:25] <overclucker> vph, ls -a
[12:26] <jrib> !root | Poundo
[12:26] <ubotu> Poundo: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:26] <Creeture> attunix: There's no such thing as making a class file executable. It requires the java runtime engine (jre, also just called java) to execute. Then there are classpaths and jars... It's not for the faint of heart.
[12:26] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, I am creating a 28000 MB partition for system files, but i have problems with mount point, what exactly i must write here
[12:26] <soundray> b_wolf_007: only a slash /
[12:26] <attunix> Creeture: ok thanks :)
[12:26] <attunix> /leave
[12:26] <IanLiu> You type peoples name, or there is a "reply" button?
[12:26] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: for root partition the mount point is simply /
[12:26] <Poundo> thanks again:-!
[12:26] <vph> overclucker: same... i need to see the files in nautilus to burn em
[12:27] <soundray> IanLiu: you type the beginning of the nick and hit Tab to complete (at least in my client)
[12:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, thanks, and sorry again for those stupid questions
[12:27] <jrib> !tab | IanLiu
[12:27] <ubotu> IanLiu: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[12:27] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: for the home partition the mount point is /home
[12:27] <INTit> hey i got a problem, im trying to setup the screen resolution and the tutorial has told me to restart xorg
[12:27] <twoshadetod> If anyone needs webhosting for their open source projects, art projects , etc let me know, I have 3 slots left I'm giving away to people that need them.  These come with no dev support
[12:27] <IanLiu> haha, nice
[12:27] <nclx> I have 1 public IP, I have 2 godaddy ssl certs (1 for mail.mydomain.com) and (1 for www.mydomain.com), both of these are ran from the same apache2 as virtual hosts, I would like to have an ssl site for each, is this possible?
[12:27] <INTit> xorg is asking me to select a video card driver but im not sure which one
[12:27] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, ok thanks
[12:27] <nclx> they are on virtual hosts on the same IP
[12:27] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: not stupid at all we all have been begginers at some point
[12:27] <soundray> INTit: what kind of card do you have?
[12:27] <overclucker> vph: so did sudo ls, or ls -a show anything?
[12:28] <INTit> Graphics adaptor
[12:28] <INTit> Intel | Intel GMA X3100
[12:28] <vph> overclucker: well, i used sudo ls path and showed the same than ls -a
[12:28] <tube013> Anyone know if I'm missing a perl package, that is required for the use of "our" in the script?  I'm trying to run myth2ipod and it's erroring out at the first instance of "our" in the script.
[12:28] <Beefheart> is there a way to enable so i can see my root files in windows mode?
[12:28] <soundray> INTit: pick intel then, if it's there. If not, i810
[12:28] <Creeture> nclx: apache only supports a single IP address per SSL cert. Does that answer your question enough?
[12:28] <overclucker> vph: which was what?
[12:28] <timseves> Has anyone here tried and succeded in booting Gutsy LiveCD over PXE?
[12:28] <timseves> I've got so far
[12:29] <INTit> thanks intel wasnt there
[12:29] <overclucker> vph: did it show files?
[12:29] <INTit> so i810
[12:29] <soundray> Beefheart: Alt-F2 'gksudo nautilus'. Be careful -- one wrong move and your system could be wrecked
[12:29] <jrib> timseves: gutsy help in #ubuntu+1
[12:29] <vph> overclucker: the list of the files in the mounted device
[12:29] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, thanks, i'll remember your help, and I hope one day I can help somebody, i'll do it I'm inspired from someone ;)
[12:29] <vph> but nautilus cant see anything
[12:29] <timseves> jrib: my mistake sorry
[12:29] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: you are wellcome ;)
[12:29] <nclx> Creeture well can I take one of my ssl certs and apply it to both www.mydomain.com and mail.mydomain.com?  They both have different webroots, one in /var/www/site and one in /var/www/webmail ?
[12:30] <soundray> INTit: there is some kind of caveat with this type of card and the i810 driver -- something to do with resolution...
[12:30] <overclucker> vph: gksu nautilus, then you navigated to the sda1 dir?
[12:30] <vph> overclucker:  gksudo nautilus, correct and then i got into the path and nothing was shown
[12:30] <IanLiu> Is there an automated way to install nVidea graphic cards?
[12:30] <erUSUL> !nvidia | IanLiu
[12:30] <ubotu> IanLiu: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:31] <nclx> well last time I did it was sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[12:31] <Creeture> nclx: 1 IP, 1 cert. Unless they are wildcard certs, no.
[12:31] <vph> overclucker: got it
[12:31] <soundray> IanLiu: there are automated ways, but we recommend strongly against them.
[12:31] <erUSUL> IanLiu: System>Admin>Restricetd manager..
[12:31] <usr13> IanLiu, No, you still have to take the case open and use the 'ol screwdriver.
[12:31] <vph> overclucker:  gksudo nautilus path, worked just fine
[12:31] <IanLiu> thanks, I asked ubotu  for nvidea :/
[12:31] <Poundo> This may make some enemys but how come apt-get install does not find webmin
[12:31] <overclucker> vph: cool
[12:31] <soundray> IanLiu: except for the one that erUSUL recommends, of course
[12:32] <nclx> because webmin is not in apt as far as I know
[12:32] <erUSUL> soundray: ;)
[12:32] <riotkittie> because there are security issues with webmin, i believe
[12:32] <juro> so it seems that I can write fine onto the ntfs drive, but I get a 'Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character' error with german characters. obviously because I only have us_EN as locale. How can I install de_DE?
[12:32] <Beefheart> soundray thanks
[12:32] <soundray> juro: back up to tar files!
[12:32] <lonix> hi, i just installed eterm via a sudo apt-get install eterm but there is no command avalible for this terminal nor any shortcut on the mainmenu
[12:32] <IanLiu> I tried to install it, but It crashed my X..
[12:32] <lonix> so where can i find it ?
[12:32] <Creeture> Poundo: Because webmin doesn't allow their application to be put into the repositories. You can download and install it all day from their site. I think.
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: It's Eterm from the commandline.
[12:33] <juro> soundray. and then the users that want to access the backups will really have a great time :)
[12:33] <MasterShrek> lonix, try: whereis eterm
[12:33] <soundray> juro: better than having to deal with borked filenames
[12:33] <lonix> Creeture: thanks i feal so stupid now :P
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: try dpkg -l eterm | grep bin
[12:33] <usr13> Webmin is easy to install, but you should only use it as a crutch, and then get rid of it.
[12:33] <nclx> Lonix capital E
[12:33] <Creeture> lonix: No, don't do what I said. try dpkg -L eterm | grep bin
[12:34] <Beefheart> soundray it didnt show all my root files, only the desktop folder for root
[12:34] <lonix> SOLVED
[12:34] <lonix> But thanks for help
[12:34] <Poundo> ok Creeture I'll look
[12:34] <Creeture> lonix: And you got a short lesson in dpkg to boot. :)
[12:34] <loserbar> okay this is definately an overly asked question but if anyone here could spare 5 seconds to just help me out. which version is currently the most stable? im sort of confused between dapper (lts) edgy or fiesty.
[12:34] <juro> soundray, well that won't happen, if I add a german locale. will it?
[12:34] <Seveas> Creeture, it's the other way around: ubuntu doesn't want horribly unsafe stuff like webmin in the repos :)
[12:34] <Seveas> !webmin
[12:34] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system
[12:35] <soundray> Beefheart: look carefully in the nautilus window, you should find a large "Up" button
[12:35] <lonix> hehe yea...
[12:35] <loserbar> i know that 7.10 is due to be released soon so would that become the current stable version? or is that going to be considered testing
[12:35] <Creeture> Seveas: I happen to agree with ubotu's way anyhow.
[12:35] <nclx> loserbar run feisty unless you are a corporation with some policy needing support
[12:35] <riotkittie> loserbar: Feisty's stable. Dapper's long term support
[12:35] <soundray> juro: maybe not, but you'd be losing your desired compatibility with "standard" Windows.
[12:35] <riotkittie> and stable
[12:36] <loserbar> support meaning what
[12:36] <juro> soundray, why?
[12:36] <vph> arrhhhhhgggg
[12:36] <Creeture> FYI for those who work in a mixed environment, NFSv4 is MUCH better in gutsy than it was in feisty.
[12:36] <vph> now the file burning thingy from nautilus wont read the files
[12:36] <loserbar> and is gutsy going to be the new stable?
[12:36] <nclx> yes soon
[12:36] <nclx> but not yet
[12:36] <loserbar> ah
[12:36] <soundray> juro: because there is no guarantee that Windows will be using the same locale.
[12:36] <Creeture> vph: Where are those files?
[12:36] <loserbar> yeah
[12:36] <overclucker> vph: what message is it giving you?
[12:37] <b_wolf_007> erUSUL, I have installed maybe thousand time windows operating system, because I'm working as a pc technician here, now I'm trying Ubuntu, and I mean to offer to my friends this operating system, but i need to learn much more for that, i like learning much more of that, and I'll try hard for that, but i need some recommendation, guides where to explore, what to read what to do as a beginner that I am
[12:37] <juro> soundray, Windows only has to read the files, not write them
[12:37] <loserbar> i havent installed it yet so should i just wait it out for gutsy and avoid the upgrade?
[12:37] <nclx> loserbar the linux world moves fast, I suggest you install feisty wait one month after gutsy is released and the upgrade
[12:37] <vph> Creeture: in a windows partition, i am on a livecd, now that i went to the console, it says i dont have the correct codec for burning mp3 in a dvd
[12:37] <riotkittie> b_wolf_007:  are you completely new to linux?
[12:37] <soundray> juro: anyway, it's your system, do what you like. Check out 'env | grep en_' to see all the environment variables that are set to an English locale at present.
[12:37] <Creeture> vph: NTFS or FAT32?
[12:37] <vph> overclucker:  now that i went to the console, it says i dont have the correct codec for burning mp3 in a dvd
[12:37] <vph> ntfs
[12:37] <siloko> b_wolf_007: ubuntuforums is a great place to start
[12:37] <b_wolf_007> riotkittie, yes
[12:37] <Creeture> vph: Drop to a commandline. do mount | grep sda1
[12:38] <erUSUL> b_wolf_007: maybe ubuntu-guide.org is a good starting point the wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com have many guides and how tos
[12:38] <b_wolf_007> siloko, i'm here to
[12:38] <juro> soundray, true. I shall have to install a german locale thought, so how do I do that?
[12:38] <bruenig> ubuntuguide is bad old not official not recommended
[12:38] <loserbar> nclx: yeah thats probably a better idea. i guess im spoiled by debian and their clarity about whats stable.
[12:38] <Creeture> vph: whereever it is mounted, do sudo umount /path/to/sda1
[12:38] <erUSUL> bruenig: then i take that back
[12:38] <b_wolf_007> everybody, thanks a lot
[12:38] <vph> Creeture: what for?
[12:38] <k31th> lol, anyone know of an easy way to make a website... or know a cheap designer :p
[12:38] <soundray> juro: afaik, you just set those variables to the locales you want.
[12:38] <LadyNikon> whats the trigger for installing packages
[12:38] <LadyNikon> not install the distro
[12:38] <loserbar> but thanks for the info. you spared me some trouble
[12:38] <vph> Creeture: its mounted
[12:39] <Creeture> vpn: 'cause I rock. Trust me for a sec.
[12:39] <nclx> k31th yourself would be as cheap as they come www.w3schools.org
[12:39] <Creeture> vph: unmount it.
[12:39] <juro> soundray, the system only understands locales accessible to it. or is that not true?
[12:39] <LadyNikon> !install
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:39] <TheSkorm> herrow Peppery
[12:39] <soundray> juro: there's a way to change it permanently in the system as well, but I forget what it was. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' used to work, but doesn't now.
[12:39] <k31th> nclx: can you design?
[12:39] <overclucker> Creeture: good answer (;
[12:39] <vph> Creeture: mount | grep sda1 shows nothing
[12:39] <nclx> I will not design your site sorry
[12:40] <soundray> juro: I'm sure Seveas knows the right incantation for changing locales?
[12:40] <vph> btw it should be sda
[12:40] <vph> not sda1
[12:40] <juro> soundray, I am not trying to change it system wide, only as a mount option for ntfs-3g
[12:40] <Creeture> vph: Didn't you say that's where your files are?
[12:40] <nclx> k31th what kind of site do you need
[12:40] <k31th> html / php
[12:40] <nclx> right... but what should it do?
[12:40] <Seveas> soundray, you could edit /etc/profile or select a locale when logging in via gdm/kdm
[12:40] <Creeture> vph: whatever partition it is, sudo umount /dev/sda?
[12:40] <riotkittie> best thing i can suggest, if you have the time to read, is to hit the library and just grab some books. i'm a huge fan of O'Reilly's Linux in a Nutshell, and UNIX in a Nutshell, but
[12:41] <vph> its not mounted
[12:41] <k31th> nclx: it's for a data cabling company.
[12:41] <b_wolf_007> riotkittie, do you think i'm to far from being a true user of linux
[12:41] <vph> thats what it says
[12:41] <Creeture> vph: ok. cool. which partition is it? fdisk -l /dev/sda
[12:41] <juro> seveas, are all locales installed as a default?
[12:41] <soundray> Seveas: apparently I misread juro's intentions... can you localize mount options for ntfs?
[12:41] <Sonicadvance1> Yo. I'm trying to get Amarok and Flash 9 to play nice together is there any way to?
[12:41] <vph> yes
[12:41] <juro> soundray, with ntfs-3g yes
[12:41] <Seveas> juro, no, additional ones are available via system -> admin -> language support
[12:41] <Seveas> juro, ah that's different
[12:41] <juro> seveas, ubuntu-server here :)
[12:42] <Seveas> juro, add nls=utf-8 (or whatever encoding you want) as a mount option
[12:42] <riotkittie> b_wolf_007: no! :P  there's a learning curve, and it can be confusing/infuriating/absolutely maddening at times, but the fact you're eager to learn says a lot
[12:42] <Creeture> vph: Got it?
[12:42] <soundray> juro: I still think it's a recipe for disaster. tar files... I'll shut up now.
[12:42] <juro> seveas, and will that work even if 'locale -a' does not show the one specified?
[12:43] <vph> Creeture: yes
[12:43] <Creeture> vph: which partition is it?
[12:43] <Seveas> juro, you're specifiyng encodings/codepages, not locales
[12:43] <usr13> !search server-kernel
[12:43] <ubotu> Found:
[12:43] <riotkittie> brb
[12:43] <eggd> hey, im looking for a guide to install awn-manager. im been googling some without any good succes.
[12:43] <siloko> b_wolf_007: the times when you weren't a proper user until you'd written your first device driver are long gone :)
[12:43] <juro> soundray. :) probably is - but we'll see
[12:43] <juro> seveas, ok, I'll try that. thanks
[12:43] <vph> Creeture: /dev/sda1   *           1        9728    78140128+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:43] <riotkittie> pidgeon's icon is like. the ugliest thing evAr. one one one.
[12:43] <vph> correct sda1
[12:44] <Creeture> vph: alrighty. do this. first, whats your id? just type id
[12:44] <b_wolf_007> siloko, can you explain a little, i didn't understand that
[12:44] <Seveas> riotkittie, you haven't seen a picture if me yet :p
[12:44] <soundray> siloko: these days it's enough to have submitted a kernel patch ;)
[12:44] <vph> uid:999
[12:44] <g0dd3ss> mm
[12:44] <siloko> soundray: LOL - you newbies . .  .
[12:44] <Instabin> if you have dpms do you need to have the horzsync and vertrefresh?
[12:45] <Poundo> are there any debian friendly gui management tools besides webmin?
[12:45] <soundray> instabin: one has nothing to do with the other. Do you mean DDS?
[12:45] <Instabin> no
[12:45] <vph> Creeture: it says 999
[12:45] <Creeture> vph: for user and group?
[12:45] <tsukasa_> hey how do i reinitialize gnome startup stuff? my gnome failsafe works as it should with nvidia-config and my dual monitors by my user account no longer does
[12:46] <vph> Creeture: same
[12:46] <tsukasa_> how do i tell gnome to reset me
[12:46] <Instabin> Soundray: im trying to help a guy that has a i945 mobile chip set and his resolution is stuck at 1024x768
[12:46] <Creeture> vph: mkdir ~/win ; sudo mount -t ntfs -o uid=999,gid=999 /dev/sda1 ~/win
[12:46] <Instabin> Soundray: it needs to be 1440x900
[12:46] <siloko> tsukasa_: ctrl-alt-backspace restarts gnome
[12:46] <Creeture> vph: you can copy & paste that.
[12:46] <tsukasa_> siloko: not that i mean startup gnome scripts and such
[12:46] <soundray> instabin: apparently you need to install something called 915resolution. I'm no expert, but have a look...
[12:46] <tsukasa_> siloko: my user environment basically
[12:46] <tsukasa_> i want to reset it
[12:47] <Mourad> hi
[12:47] <soundray> !info 915resolution | instabin
[12:47] <ubotu> instabin: 915resolution: resolution modification tool for Intel graphic chipset. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.2-10ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 14 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[12:47] <siloko> tsukasa_: what rollback to it's original state?
[12:47] <vph> Creeture: you mister, know your way into the filesystem, i bow to you
[12:47] <Creeture> vph: So you see it then?
[12:47] <tsukasa_> siloko: for gnome yes
[12:47] <vph> yes
[12:47] <vph> ls
[12:47] <vph> normal
[12:47] <vph> gives it to me
[12:47] <Creeture> vph: Didn't I tell you that I rock?
[12:47] <siloko> tsukasa_: no idea sorry
[12:47] <vph> Creeture: do you know how to turn on a laptop frontal sound plug?
[12:48] <Creeture> vph: Not a clue. I'd love to stay and help, but the wife keeps calling. I have to go home now.
[12:48] <vph> Creeture: yes you rock
[12:48] <vph> Creeture: thanks
[12:48] <Instabin> Soundray: thanks
[12:48] <Creeture> vph: For homework, I leave it to you to figure out how to make that thing mount as you every time. It involves /etc/fstab and "man mount"
[12:49] <Creeture> You boys & girls have a good one. Traffic awaits!
[12:49] <siloko> tsukasa_: creating a new user gives you an essentially default gnome install - but some stuff you may have altered as your standard login user may still be used . . .
[12:49] <rso> anyone outthere
[12:49] <erichj> Instabin, instead of 915resolution you can also install the xserver-xorg-video-intel package. which tends to perform better as was updated not too long ago
[12:50] <riotkittie> Seveas: i am willing to put money on the fact that you are nowhere near as ugly as the pidgeon icon
[12:50] <riotkittie> unless... you have a purple head and a beak.  then all bets are off :P
[12:50] <Seveas> riotkittie, well, :)
[12:50] <soundray> erichj: that's useful knowledge, thanks
[12:51] <erichj> soundray, welcome
[12:51] <rso> what's on here, folks?
[12:51] <soundray> !ubuntu | rso
[12:51] <ubotu> rso: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:52] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[12:53] <BlackCow> i am having so much trouble trying to get these damn drivers to compile for my dfe-530tx+ NIC card >_<
[12:53] <siloko> ok later guys
[12:54] <BlackCow> does anything seem wrong with, gcc *.c *.h -o dlinkdriver
[12:54] <soundray> BlackCow: no swearing please. Who says you have to compile drivers?
[12:54] <Al-Khouli> Hi all , i need a free pdf reader or editor where i can add my notes and underline words ??
[12:54] <hrnt> "*.h" part
[12:54] <BlackCow> because when i do it I get a crap load of errors
[12:54] <Erythro> hmm why am i in ubuntu-unregged
[12:54] <BlackCow> oh did I swear? sorry, but yeah its a bunch of .C files and headers
[12:55] <portablejim> I am having wireless networking difficulties. I can ping network computers but not google.com or <IP_ADDRESS>. Can somebody help me please?
[12:55] <soundray> BlackCow: why are you compiling drivers?
[12:55] <BlackCow> how else do I install them?
[12:55] <juro> damn, didn't work either.
[12:55] <Evanlec> modprobe? ;p
[12:55] <soundray> BlackCow: this is a fairly common network card. It should be supported out of the box by ubuntu.
[12:56] <tms_> portablejim: yes, it seems as if the gateway out of the subnet is not set
[12:56] <Al-Khouli> Hi all , i need a free pdf reader or editor where i can add my notes and underline words ?? can anyone help ?
[12:56] <BlackCow> its Ubuntu server edition 7.04
[12:56] <portablejim> so I need to set a gateway address?
[12:56] <BlackCow> I need ifconfig eth0
[12:56] <BlackCow> and it couldnt see it
[12:56] <soundray> Al-Khouli: apparently evince will be able to do that in the next version of ubuntu, to be released later this month.
[12:57] <BlackCow> I did *
[12:57] <tms_> portablejim: yes. Did you manually configure the IP adress if you network interface?
[12:57] <portablejim> yes
[12:57] <soundray> BlackCow: is this the only NIC in your machine?
[12:57] <BlackCow> yes
[12:57] <juro> what is the *best* ntfs driver available?
[12:57] <tms_> portablejim: then type in the IP of your gateway/router into gateway address and you should be set
[12:57] <Evanlec> juro, there's only one, ntfs-3g
[12:57] <Al-Khouli> soundray: this means i won't be able to install it on 7.04 ?
[12:57] <Evanlec> !ntfs | juro
[12:57] <ubotu> juro: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:57] <soundray> BlackCow: do you see your card when you type lspci?
[12:58] <juro> Evanlec, ok, thanx.
[12:58] <BlackCow> leme go check *runs to the computer*
[12:58] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, it means u could, but it would be easier to wait until 7.10 comes out on the 18th
[12:58] <soundray> Al-Khouli: you may be able to backport it, but that takes some work and knowledge.
[12:58] <Al-Khouli> soundray: oh , i already have it ! u mean it's to be updated
[12:58] <sky1> I am trying to install Vmware in red hat, the error when I use rpm it shows is cant create transaction lock on /var/lib/rpm/__db.000
[12:58] <soundray> Al-Khouli: yes, the current version doesn't support editing.
[12:59] <soundray> sky1: wrong channel. Install ubuntu and ask again.
[12:59] <Evanlec> sky1, this channel is for ubuntu users, ubuntu doesn't use rpm
[12:59] <portablejim> still get "Destination host unreachable".
[12:59] <erUSUL> sky1: wrong channel ubuntu users around here
[12:59] <sky1> lol ok
[12:59] <sky1> sorry guys
[12:59] <cypher1> sky1, take diversion
[12:59] <BlackCow> hmm, interesting, it shows the graphics card, a bunch of USB controlers, but nothing about the NIC
[12:59] <tms_> portablejim: hm.
[12:59] <juro> ubotu, yes, I have already mounted it. 1st I got a message that my kernel is deficient. now when I write files onto it, I get this error message: 'Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character'
[12:59] <hhp21> Hey everyone! :) I have a question about OpenOffice.org.. when I'm typing in the word processor, the processor constantly tries to predict the word that I'm about to type and it gets annoying. How can I turn that off?
[12:59] <BlackCow> do you think it might be toasted or something?
[12:59] <sky1> cypher1, I already use ubuntu in all my machines, the boss at work makes me use Red hat
[01:00] <Evanlec> hhp21, im sure its in the preferences somewhere
[01:00] <Al-Khouli> soundray, Evanlec: Isn't there another one i can use right now ?
[01:00] <cypher1> sky1, bad luck
[01:00] <sky1> I cant do apt-get install anymore :<
[01:00] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, im not sure, evince won't work?
[01:00] <soundray> Al-Khouli: flpsed, but it's a bit backward
[01:00] <erichj> sky1, what error are you getting when you try it
[01:00] <sky1> apt-get doesnt work in non debian machines
[01:00] <kakun-> hello. i'm having some difficulties installing Ubuntu 7.10 on VMWare. Everything works very, very, slowly.
[01:00] <soundray> hhp21: Tools-Autocorrect-Word Completion
[01:01] <erichj> sky1, were you not aware of that?
[01:01] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: it works , but there's no editing there
[01:01] <kakun-> has anyone experienced similar problems?
[01:01] <BlackCow> ok so my NIC card is a hardware issue not an issue with ubuntu you think?
[01:01] <hhp21> soundray: That's it :) Thanks!
[01:01] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, ifconfig -a gives nothing?
[01:01] <hhp21> Thank you too Evanlec :)
[01:01] <jadacyrus> for some reason i cant hit google.com, i cant ping it either.. but everyone else on my lan can.. (my two friends)...
[01:01] <g0dd3ss> anyone know if conky can make cpu graphs for both on a coreduo
[01:02] <chrono13> I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on my Dell 700m laptop today. I performed a full update. My resolution is detected incorrectly, and xorg is using vesa instead of the Intel drivers. How do I change this (I eventually want to have the special effects turned on). I need to change from vesa to intel and correct the resolution (xorg doesn't seem to have any listed resolutions like it normally does).
[01:02] <Evanlec> g0dd3ss, should be able to yes
[01:02] <soundray> BlackCow: sorry, I missed your replies -- use my nick next time. If your card doesn't show in lspci, check if it sits in the slot properly, or try putting it in another.
[01:02] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:02] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, else try: lspci -v | grep Ethernet   and see if anything comes up
[01:02] <BlackCow> ifconfig -a connects me to <IP_ADDRESS> and says local loopback, so its not going out to my network
[01:02] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, try flpsed
[01:02] <erichj> chrono13, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[01:03] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, actually try scribus
[01:03] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, ifconfig isnt connecting to anything, its merely showing you your current network connections
[01:03] <chrono13> erichj - I did that exact thing, and it says it is already the most current version (already installed). That supprised me.
[01:03] <erichj> hmm
[01:03] <erichj> try restarting x?
[01:03] <chrono13> Did that too.
[01:03] <chrono13> Restarted the computer actually.
[01:03] <soundray> chrono13: then you need to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and set it to the intel driver
[01:03] <chrono13> ah
[01:04] <jadacyrus> help me! i can go to any other website just not google.com?!?
[01:04] <chrono13> Thanks, that is what I needed. : )
[01:04] <soundray> BlackCow: no use fiddling with ifconfig if your card doesn't show in lspci
[01:04] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, lspci -v | grep Ethernet     give you anything?
[01:05] <Evanlec> jadacyrus, i had some similar problem earlier today, do u have any firewall installed?
[01:05] <erichj> jadacyrus, check your hosts file to make sure your friends aren't screwing with you
[01:05] <sharpz> lol
[01:05] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, scribus is your answer ;)
[01:05] <jadacyrus> no firewall, and i already checked my hosts file its normal
[01:05] <sharpz> can u ping google.com
[01:05] <jadacyrus> nope
[01:05] <sharpz> timeout>?
[01:05] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: Thank u :) i am going to get it
[01:05] <soundray> !u | sharpz
[01:05] <ubotu> sharpz: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[01:05] <jadacyrus> but my friends can (they are on windows) yea timeout
[01:05] <jadacyrus> 100% packet loss
[01:06] <soundray> sharpz: sorry, I just think this is a funny one.
[01:06] <sharpz> ...
[01:06] <sharpz> lol
[01:06] <MasterShrek> jadacyrus, do you have an ip address?
[01:06] <erichj> ...
[01:07] <leo_rockw> hello everyone
[01:07] <BlackCow> ok so lspci -v | grep Ethernet did nothing for me
[01:07] <jadacyrus> of course!
[01:07] <sharpz> jadacyrus: what you're running ubuntu? what dist
[01:07] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, hmm, actually, im trying to open pdf's in scribus and its not workin
[01:07] <jadacyrus> fiesty
[01:07] <MasterShrek> BlackCow, well then your card is not being recognized
[01:07] <soundray> BlackCow: it's a hardware or BIOS issue.
[01:07] <BlackCow> ok, thanks
[01:07] <BlackCow> ohhh shoo
[01:07] <sharpz> maybe it's your ISP
[01:07] <BlackCow> shoot
[01:07] <BlackCow> BIOS
[01:07] <BlackCow> duhhh *Slaps forhead*
[01:07] <BlackCow> thank you
[01:07] <MasterShrek> lol
[01:08] <soundray> BlackCow: don't tell me you've disabled it in the BIOS.
[01:08] <ajchace> I am having some problems with a desktop machine that is running Ubuntu 7.04. It slows down until it is unusable, but after a reboot, it's fine for about 2-3 days. "top" show a load-average of about 0.1, and it's not actively swapping to disk. Anyone have any ideas?
[01:08] <desiarnez6> I cannot connect to IRC from dialup connection at home. Here on highspeed wireless is fine, same computer. tried to telnet from dialup wouldn't work, tried firefox, url did work after long time, traceroute seemed to work fine
[01:08] <Al-Khouli> Evanlec: flpsed is not working too
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, help!!
[01:08] <Evanlec> Al-Khouli, hmmm
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, it erred on package 926!
[01:08] <leo_rockw> soundray, i think he's too ashamed to answer :-P
[01:08] <eric> Seveas, E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle.
[01:09] <MasterShrek> ajchace, open your system monitor and look for something that is taking alot of processor power or tons of ram to run
[01:09] <Mourad> me  enter psybnc free  plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:09] <chrisjs169> is there a fast package server that's available?  I'm getting 9090 B/s on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:09] <eric> Seveas, EVERYTHING I just downloaded was not installed!
[01:09] <astro76> !offtopic | Mourad
[01:09] <ubotu> Mourad: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:09] <erichj> eric, welcome to dist-upgrade!!!
[01:09] <soundray> Al-Khouli: if you don't mind the installation, you can import PDFs in kword and edit them there.
[01:09] <eric> erichj, it isn't a dist-upgrade
[01:09] <Evanlec> soundray, isnt there a more elegant solution? i would think scribus could do it...
[01:09] <soundray> Al-Khouli: kword tends not to preserve the layout very well, though.
[01:10] <wundaboy> i just switched monitors, and now i cant use any resolution except for 800x600 ... help?
[01:10] <eric> Seveas, is there a way I can install everything that was downloaded so far?
[01:10] <Hilikus> is there a gnome application to admin apache?
[01:10] <eric> Seveas, and more importantly how do I get the rest of the packages I need? it was at 99% too...
[01:10] <ajchace> MasterShrek: does the system monitor show anything that "top" does not? I don't see anything using cpu cycles or an inordinate amount of memory...
[01:10] <soundray> Evanlec: if there is, I haven't found it, and I've searched for hours. That was last year, though.
[01:10] <xenakis> !restricted
[01:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:10] <Seveas> eric: dpkg --configure --pending
[01:10] <Evanlec> soundray, no kidding, wow
[01:10] <MasterShrek> ajchace, i suppose not, it could be some kind of hardware problem, are you running ndiswrapper by chance?
[01:10] <Evanlec> soundray, adobe's keeping a tight grip on it maybe
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, nothing happened
[01:11] <ajchace> MasterShrek: no, I'm not (no wireless interface)
[01:11] <NemesisD> anyone know why wine virtual desktop is all of the sudden restricted to 1 display? I used to run a desktop of 2560x1024 for photoshop cs but for some reason it only goes on one of my displays now and I can't move the virtual desktop at all
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, oh no :(
[01:11] <desiarnez6> Wondering if someone could help me. I cannot connect to IRC from dialup connection.
[01:11] <Seveas> eric, good
[01:11] <Seveas> was it installing packages already or downloading/preconfiguring?
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, how is that good?!? I just downloaded 500MB worth of files that did nothing
[01:11] <ajchace> MasterShrek: Bad hardware sounds feasible, but I would expect to see some sort of errors in "syslog" or "messages"...
[01:11] <eric> Seveas, it was still downloading
[01:12] <eric> Seveas, it failed to download a package due to that error and stopped
[01:12] <Seveas> eric, no need to panic :)
[01:12] <MasterShrek> ajchace, you would think, i wouldnt know how to go about trying to solve the problem tho
[01:12] <eric> Seveas, good *whew*
[01:12] <ajchace> ok, thanks for the suggestions
[01:12] <Seveas> eric: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | grep -v coreutils | grep -v debianutils | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[01:12] <soundray> Al-Khouli: sorry, I may have given you bad info about evince. I just tried it out in the ubuntu beta, and there is no sign of PDF editability.
[01:13] <ajchace> MasterShrek: new RAM is on the way, so I guess we'll find out when it gets here
[01:13] <MasterShrek> editability, nice word =P
[01:13] <kkathman> hmm isnt the idea behind PDF that you cant change it? lol
[01:13] <eric> Seveas, E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on python-minimal
[01:13] <soundray> kkathman: no, it isn't.
[01:13] <Al-Khouli> soundray: But this should be  considered ! pdf files are every where
[01:13] <scguy318> kkathman: not totally, portability and the whole fonts building thing is part of it
[01:13] <Seveas> eric, well well, things go downhill...
[01:13] <soundray> kkathman: why would they have special features for PDF forms otherwise.
[01:13] <MasterShrek> ajchace, sounds like a good idea, could very well be your problem
[01:13] <leo_rockw> pdf = portable document format
[01:13] <Seveas> eric, is that the complete error?
[01:13] <eric> Seveas, yes
[01:14] <Seveas> yay for useful errors :/
[01:14] <ajchace> soundray: I think the "editability" only extends to filling in forms in a pdf
[01:14] <desiarnez6> Well, if anyone is able, I have detailed my problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/257
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, it says all the packages are there though
[01:14] <kkathman> soundray:  forms, I understand of course, but generally pdf's I thought were supposed to be "immutable" unless programmed to be different
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, I thought there was a dpkg command to finish the install
[01:14] <Seveas> eric bot until it at least started the install...
[01:14] <eric> Seveas, I know I accidentally canceled an install but using dpkg I was able to finish it..
[01:15] <leo_rockw> kkathman, then adobe wouldn't be selling adobe acrobat professional
[01:15] <scguy318> eric: sudo dpkg --configure -a or something mebbe
[01:15] <MasterShrek> desiarnez6, does it connect to anything? besides irc?
[01:15] <erichj> scguy318, that just removes the lock
[01:15] <eric> scguy318, doesn't seem to be
[01:15] <erichj> apt-get install -f
[01:15] <kkathman> leo_rockw:  ok well I understand that the user  ... ie the provider of the PDF should be able to create and change but once a pdf is sent out I thought it was immutable
[01:15] <Seveas> eric, sorry, I really have to go to bed, alarm goes of in < 6 hours
[01:16] <desiarnez6> Mastershrek, yes it connects to yahoo chat, AIM, and all the internet fine, only XChat and IRC through Gaim do not work
[01:16] <eric> Seveas, night...
[01:16] <soundray> kkathman: it's an output format, I give you that. The fact remains that they are a pain to edit with anything open source. Adobe Acrobat, on the other hand, is almost like a word processor with some extra features. I'd love to have a free replacement for that.
[01:16] <scguy318> kkathman: not at all, i know Photoshop has limited PDF editing
[01:16] <eric> erichj, it says 0 of every type of package to do anything with
[01:16] <MasterShrek> very strange desiarnez6, tried irssi or another terminal based irc client?
[01:16] <eric> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:16] <leo_rockw> kkathman, no, it can be changed as long as you don't restrict it
[01:16] <kkathman> soundray:  agreed on the replacement for it
[01:17] <erichj> eric, looks like you gotta download everything again
[01:17] <eric> erichj, it will just error on the same package again
[01:17] <eric> erichj, there is no point
[01:17] <noma1> hi, im on the partition manually but i also have windows which i need to assign i got 10gb for ubuntu
[01:17] <erichj> select a different server to download from
[01:17] <leo_rockw> kkathman, soundray has it right. adobe acrobat looks almost like a word processor
[01:17] <kkathman> leo_rockw:  right - i.e. the restriction - alot of people send, for instance, invoices or sales acknowledgements out via PDF as a record, but the recipient cant change it
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, because not everybody has adobe acrobat
[01:18] <desiarnez6> Mastershrek, hmm I will put that down in the tomboy notes to check when i get home, telnet cannot connect to irc either (from the terminal)
[01:18] <eric> erichj, it is the package itself. It was a system package that complained it couldn't be installed because the system dependent on it
[01:18] <ajchace> desiarnez6: have you tried opening a telnet session to port 194 on an IRC server?
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, if they didn't password protect the file, it can be opened and modified w/ adobe acrobat
[01:18] <kkathman> right
[01:18] <kkathman> i.e. a immutable document :)
[01:18] <leo_rockw> kkathman, and even if it is password protected, it can be unprotected using unholy methods ;-)
[01:19] <eric> erichj, what happened is I accidentally booted into ubuntu on a virtual machine using that same ubuntu install as the host
[01:19] <desiarnez6> ajchace: I only tried Port 6667, I will try Port 194 tonight to see if it is any better
[01:19] <eric> erichj, damn grub -.-
[01:19] <eric> erichj, and it screwed up all the drivers and quite a few config files
[01:19] <SpiderPig> shalom
[01:19] <SpiderPig> ops wrong chat
[01:20] <ajchace> desiarnez6: I think 6667 is over SSL, so you won't be able to do anything, but you should still be able open a session
[01:20] <eric> erichj, after using recovery mode the drivers seem to have be fixed, and I have repaired any noticeable configuration mishaps
[01:20] <eric> erichj, Seveas advised I reinstall all my packages however
[01:20] <eric> erichj, and thus this problem
[01:21] <eric> erichj, so I have all these packages in cache that are not reinstalled...
[01:21] <s0nix> hi
[01:21] <s0nix> -/+ buffers/cache:     416448    1659428 .......... is this the REAL memory usage ?
[01:21] <desiarnez6> ajchace: Interesting, all I received with port 6667 was "Trying 'IPaddress'..." for several different ips
[01:22] <ajchace> desiarnez6: hmmm, not sure what that's about
[01:22] <bjb1959> I had ubuntu gutsy up and running with the latest driver and compiz-fusion working except that the system would freeze after about 30 minutes of inactivity. I read that disabling dpms in xorg and at the bios level would help but it didn't so I tried to downgrade my driver to 1.0-9755 and that is when the problem started. now I can't get the restricted driver to work.... help
[01:22] <leo_rockw> !gutsy | bjb1959
[01:22] <ubotu> bjb1959: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[01:23] <eric> forget replacing the packages then
[01:24] <alcaponage> How do I get the next release?
[01:24] <eric> how do I clear apt-cache so that I don't have 500MB of dead packages sitting on my hard drive?
[01:24] <anonymous1> Could anybody help me with sshd_config.  I can't see why my attempted connections just time out.
[01:24] <alcaponage> How will I get Gutsy Gibbon?
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> eric: apt-get clean
[01:24] <alcaponage> Do I have to install ubuntu over again?
[01:24] <kitche> alcaponage: upgrade the distro with update-manager
[01:24] <desiarnez6> ajchase and MasterShrek, I will try your advice for know tonight to see if I can connect, if you guys or anyone for that matter want's to update later, my post is the last one at the Ubuntu XChat forum: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+question/257 With the same settings, I seem to connect fine by wireless connection, I wonder if my IP could somehow block IRC now, tho on windows i had no problem with Mirc
[01:24] <soundray> !gutsy > alcaponage, please read the private message from ubotu
[01:24] <eric> SlimeyPete, thanks.
[01:25] <astro76> !upgrade > alcaponage
[01:25] <alcaponage> thank you guys
[01:25] <alcaponage> or girls
[01:26] <mrynit> is there a Europa repository for ubuntu?
[01:26] <mrynit> europa eclipse that is
[01:26] <twodeko> anyone having issues with the gutsy beta installer CD?  mine makes it to the default brown background with a mouse and then hangs, and i eventually lose my display
[01:26] <leo_rockw> hey guys. g2g, glhf
[01:27] <leo_rockw> !gutsy > twodeko
[01:27] <twodeko> thanks leo_rockw, wasn't aware
[01:27] <soundray> alcaponage: "guys" is turning into a gender-neutral term. More than once I've heard women/girls address female groups by "listen up guys!"
[01:27] <CapaH> Question, I cannot get Textpad to work properly with Wine --- Can someone recommend to me a good alternative for linux? Note -- must have the ability to use the MOUSE within the text editor, must support syntax highlightning, must support block edit --- etc etc
[01:27] <RAdams> I have Ubuntu Feisty. What's the best way to upgrade GAIM to Pidgin?
[01:28] <desiarnez6> I have to go, thank you for your help. Bye.
[01:28] <cjae> anyway to mend an avi file with ubuntu
[01:28] <alcaponage> soundray: touche
[01:28] <cjae> have two pieces and want to make them whole again
[01:29] <soundray> RAdams: through backports, I think
[01:29] <soundray> !backports > RAdams
[01:29] <astro76> CapaH, text editors is one thing linux does not lack... tried kate?
[01:29] <jrib> CapaH: gedit (Text Editor in menu)
[01:29] <CapaH> Haven't tried kate
[01:29] <frostburn> CapaH, jedit
[01:29] <ajchace> CapaH: Bluefish, if you're using GNOME
[01:29] <alcaponage> I have a question: I want to install atlantis cube, do I put http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty eyecandy in my source list and type in the code?
[01:30] <Troseph> Anyone wanting to run Ubuntu in a VM on your mac, save your money and install VirtualBox on your intel Mac.
[01:30] <soundray> Troseph: really? I've just bought VMware Fusion, dang!
[01:31] <Troseph> soundray: yeah! I was this close to buying Fusion -->|| and I tried VirtualBox, and success!
[01:31] <Troseph> Saved myself $60
[01:32] <soundray> Troseph: well, that's good to know. Although I do find Fusion amazing. Drag and drop between guest and host, wow.
[01:32] <soundray> Troseph: does virtualbox do that?
[01:32] <Troseph> soundray: Not sure, I just got Ubuntu running. I'll give updates as I try new stuff.
[01:33] <Troseph> And fusion is *amazing* but if you don't have the money, VirtualBox works.
[01:33] <Troseph> It's a bit of a resource hog, you might want 2GB+ ram.
[01:34] <soundray> Troseph: does VirtualBox support amd64 guests?
[01:34] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.
[01:34] <Troseph> soundray: no idea. I just downloaded it about 20 minutes ago.
[01:34] <jrib> !ssh > anonymous1 (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:34] <soundray> Troseph: yeah, I'm about to get an extra 4G for mine...
[01:34] <mneptok> anonymous1: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:34] <kitche> anonymous1: what are you trying to do with it?
[01:35] <Troseph> Soundray: I'm on a MacBook, so only 3G for me. :'(
[01:35] <eggd> i got errorcode 98, adress busy or something when i tried to download a 2nd torrent
[01:35] <anonymous1> I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.
[01:35] <eggd> isnt it possible to download multiple torrents at a time?
[01:35] <soundray> Troseph: four-core Mac Pro here, 32GB max RAM :)
[01:35] <MasterShrek> eggd, yes, i do it all the time
[01:35] <mneptok> anonymous1: how did you install it?
[01:35] <anonymous1> I'm just trying to log into it and I get a timeout.
[01:35] <anonymous1> I used synaptic.
[01:36] <mneptok> anonymous1: is port 22 blocked?
[01:36] <mneptok> anonymous1: did you install the openssh-server package or something else?
[01:36] <anonymous1> I installed openssh-server.
[01:36] <jrib> anonymous1: can you ssh localhost?
[01:37] <anonymous1> I've allowed port 22 and another four-digit port.
[01:37] <anonymous1> How do I ssh localhost?
[01:37] <kitche> anonymous1: exactly like that ssh localhost
[01:37] <agroker> how to switch off the loud system beep under GG (I do not have X yet)?
[01:37] <soundray> agroker: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[01:38] <anonymous1> Wow, that worked!
[01:38] <anonymous1> I guess that means I have something right.
[01:38] <soundray> anonymous1: the problem is "en route" then
[01:38] <mneptok> anonymous1: so what machien cannot connect?
[01:38] <mneptok> *machine
[01:38] <thsnckisoriginal> try upping the login timeout in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[01:39] <anonymous1> I tried from SDF.  I'll try from my university server.
[01:39] <anonymous1> Good, point, I set the timeout to 20 seconds following the paranoid advice at the Ubuntu ssh tutorial.
[01:39] <mneptok> anonymous1: is port 22 forwarded?
[01:39] <kitche> if you don't have a certain membership I believe SDF blocks outgoing ssh
[01:39] <anonymous1> This is where you'll yell at me.  I'm directly directed to the internet without a router in between me and the modem.
[01:40] <MasterShrek> anonymous1, i dont know if i would be giving information like that out lol
[01:40] <anonymous1> I've got the highest SDF membership.  They're the only reason I know anything about unix at all!
[01:40] <astro76> anonymous1, not a big deal, linux is secure in that regards :)
[01:40] <astro76> anonymous1, though you are wise tightening your sshd then
[01:40] <anonymous1> In fact, I'm running a fit-PC, which is supposed to be a good choice for a firewall itself...
[01:41] <zibad> hello
[01:41] <zibad> i have a very weird problem with hibernate mode
[01:41] <zibad> the system hibernate well
[01:41] <MasterShrek> zibad hibernate and standby have never worked correctly in linux
[01:41] <zibad> but there is no resume
[01:42] <zibad> its as if i have reboot
[01:43] <kailashamrit> i can't play orig. dvd's (copied ones no problem). is there any solution?
[01:43] <zibad> i found this info in syslog
[01:43] <zibad> swsusp: Error -6 check for resume file
[01:44] <astro76> kailashamrit, have you installed libdvdcss2 ?
[01:44] <zibad> does anyone have an idea pls ?
[01:44] <astro76> !medibuntu | kailashamrit, you can get it here...
[01:44] <ubotu> kailashamrit, you can get it here...: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[01:44] <kailashamrit> astro76: one sec i will check
[01:45] <mneptok> zibad: is your swap >/= (physical RAM * 2)
[01:45] <mneptok> err ... * 1
[01:45] <zibad> mneptok: not really, the ram is around 700 and the swap is 512
[01:45] <astro76> zibad, that's the prob then
[01:45] <mneptok> zibad: then you can't hibernate
[01:46] <anonymous1> I still get a timeout from two different servers when I set the LoginGraceTime to 120.
[01:46] <zibad> mneptok: is this the error -6 ?
[01:46] <mneptok> zibad: where would you like the information in memory to go when the RAM loses power?
[01:46] <zibad> mneptok: i mean 512 should be sufficient when i have nothing opened no ?
[01:46] <mneptok> zibad: "The Marvelous Land Of Oz" is not an option ;)
[01:47] <astro76> zibad, to hibernate you need swap >= ram, no exceptions, hibernate means ram is copied to disk (in the swap partition) and the system is powered down
[01:47] <pepito> Hi to all, please I need to chat here  "#ubuntu-it-chat" I using (my first time)  Xchat gnome. Can I go here #ubuntu-it-chat?
[01:47] <mneptok> zibad: hibernate is not something Linux does well. and it sure won't do it if it doesn't have swap space to match physical memory.
[01:47] <Frogzoo> !it | pepito
[01:47] <ubotu> pepito: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:48] <astro76> pepito, should just be #ubuntu-it, type /join #ubuntu-it
[01:48] <pepito> si ubotu, ma non so come andarci
[01:48] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install LaTeX on an Ubuntu 6.06LTS server; I've manually installed MediaWiki, but I'm getting errors: http://rafb.net/p/CfqVX784.html
[01:48] <anonymous1> That ubotu is a good idea.
[01:48] <zibad> mneptok: how can i see what is my free space, I think my used space could let me know what swap is needed right ?
[01:48] <jrib> pepito: /join #ubuntu-it
[01:48] <Red_Tide> I have all but converted my brother to Ubuntu but he is having some trouble with sluggish internet I suspect its ipv6 am I correct in suspecting this?
[01:48] <astro76> zibad, type "free -m" to see your memory and swap sizes
[01:48] <mneptok> zibad: you MUST have swap that is equal to or more than physical memory. you don't. game over.
[01:49] <MasterShrek> Red_Tide, could be, but ive never had a problem with it, what kind of machine is it? are you using wireless?
[01:49] <pepito> thank you astro76. I did
[01:49] <kailashamrit> astro76: iin synaptic i can't see the libdvdcss2. so what can i do on medibuntu website?
[01:49] <astro76> kailashamrit, you can either download libdvdcss2 and install it, or there's clear instructions on how to add medibuntu as a repository, then you can install it through synaptic
[01:49] <Red_Tide> MasterShre its hardwired in right now its a Amd socket 939 I think
[01:50] <zibad> mneptok: i am sorry but i have increased my swap to 512 because, previously i could NOT suspend (there was a clear message about that), and now i can, but with this problem in resume. So im not sure the space is the problem
[01:50] <MasterShrek> Red_Tide, it should run fine, what kinda NIC is it? if its newer id suggest trying gutsy
[01:50] <mneptok> zibad: fine. keep trying then.
[01:50] <mneptok> zibad: there is a patron saint of lost causes, if you need help ;)
[01:51] <whiskeytango> ask away
[01:51] <whiskeytango> how do i get my SD slots to work?
[01:52] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.  I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.  I am able to ssh localhost, but when I try from two other servers, I just get timeouts.  The machine is directly connected to the modem and Port 22 is listening.
[01:52] <zibad> mneptok: when i didnt have enough space i couldnt NOT suspend, and i had a message about not having enough space. I have increased the swap, and now i can suspend, but the resume give me swsusp: Error -6 check for resume file
[01:52] <zibad> mneptok: am i more clear now ?
[01:52] <Red_Tide> MasterShre: I don't think the NIC is that new, but thanks for the advice I will have a look at it an area I had not thought to explore
[01:53] <astro76> zibad, I thought we were clear about swap>= ram to hibernate?
[01:53] <mneptok> zibad: yes. and i still don't see why you're talking about suspend when the problem is with hibernate.
[01:53] <zibad> mneptok: sorry i didnt chose the right word, for me suspend and hibernate are the same in my language
[01:54] <zibad> mneptok: my system now hibernate because i have increased my swap space
[01:54] <mneptok> zibad: so what's the problem?
[01:54] <zibad> mneptok: before that it couldnt saying not enough space
[01:54] <astro76> zibad, I see what you're saying, but your system does NOT hibernate because you still can't resume from it
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: my problem is when resuming, its as if i have reboot
[01:55] <mneptok> zibad: you don't have enough swap. i don't care what error messages say.
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: its strange that the system doesnt say not enough space as before :/
[01:55] <mneptok> zibad: your problem is not enough swap. and even if you had it, there's a good chance it wouldn't work.
[01:55] <whiskeytango> Anyone have an idea on why my SD slot doesnt work?
[01:55] <kailashamrit> astro76: thanx.  "With your favourite web browser, go to  http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/.": Forbidden You do not have permission to access this document.
[01:55] <kailashamrit>   Web Server at medibuntu.org
[01:55] <bmk789> whiskeytango: drivers for the reader?
[01:55] <zibad> mneptok: it works fine on one of my computer
[01:56] <whiskeytango> Where would i get them for ubuntu?
[01:56] <zibad> mneptok: so it may work
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> whiskeytango: IS it a plug in usb one or internal as in laptop..
[01:56] <bmk789> whiskeytango: if there are drivers there most likely in the repos
[01:56] <astro76> kailashamrit, I honestly prefer to add the repository according to this instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu#head-7486ed038a9becc1dff10a24cc07a38a00d70e9f
[01:56] <threethirty> hello all
[01:56] <zibad> !swsusp
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swsusp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Lets pretend i dont know what repos are.
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Nor do i know how to access them.
[01:57] <zibad> mneptok: i will try extending the swap more, but i doubt its the reason
[01:57] <bmk789> whiskeytango: is the big bank of ubuntu software
[01:57] <whiskeytango> Great, now, where do i find it?
[01:57] <astro76> whiskeytango, in a laptop? many still don't work because they are proprietary, the manufacturers have not released info
[01:58] <bmk789> whiskeytango: first run "lspci" in a terminal to see what type of reader you have
[01:58] <whiskeytango> No, its in my HP PC, internal though, so..
[01:58] <mneptok> whiskeytango: what kind of reader? internal? external? USB? 1394?
[01:58] <kailashamrit> astro76: yes but there is only choice upto ubuntu 7.04, but i'm on 7.10. is ok with the last version?
[01:58] <whiskeytango> Internal
[01:58] <mneptok> whiskeytango: does any flash media work in that reader?
[01:58] <kitche> kailashamrit: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[01:59] <astro76> kailashamrit, yeah I have no idea then... we don't support beta versions in this channel.... try #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <whiskeytango> I only had teh SD card to test, but ive tried 4..
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> whiskeytango: they make a card slot reader that fits a 3/5" floppy slot that can use generic drivers
[01:59] <bmk789> whiskeytango: run "lspci|grep Card"
[01:59] <bmk789> it should say what specific device you have
[01:59] <broken> Quick question, how do i reconfigure my xorg? I thought it was "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver" but for me it says that its not installed.
[01:59] <whiskeytango> Nothing found.
[02:00] <kailashamrit> astro76: thanx a lot!
[02:00] <anonymous1> Hello, could anybody help me set up my sshd?  I've followed various types of directions and read FAQs and I still can't get it to work.  I've got sshd installed and the daemon is running.  I am able to ssh localhost, but when I try from two other servers, I just get timeouts.  The machine is directly connected to the modem and Port 22 is listening.  That's the last time I'll paste it; I don't want to spam #ubuntu.
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> broken: sudo
[02:00] <mneptok> broken: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:00] <bmk789> maybe its USB even though its internal
[02:00] <kitche> broken: xserver-xorg not xorg-xserver
[02:00] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm trying to install LaTeX on an Ubuntu 6.06LTS server; I've manually installed MediaWiki, but I'm getting errors: http://rafb.net/p/CfqVX784.html
[02:00] <broken> gah ok.
[02:00] <bmk789> whiskeytango: "lsusb|grep Card"
[02:00] <mneptok> anonymous1: does your ISP filter low ports?
[02:00] <mneptok> anonymous1: edit the sshd conf file and start it on 7652 or something
[02:00] <whiskeytango> Nothing
[02:01] <astro76> anonymous1, yeah you know since you're directly connected to the Internet anyway, it would be good to change from 22 to a high port anyway
[02:01] <anonymous1> I don't know.  I'll try a high port.
[02:01] <astro76> I use a 5 digit port for mine ;)
[02:01] <astro76> *ports
[02:01] <whiskeytango> Im having the same issue with my chipset video as well, doesnt show up at all in ubuntu.
[02:01] <Zhaz> Anyone good with sound issues? I cant get AC3 to work,,
[02:02] <fluffles> hi people, trying to use Remote Desktop on 7.10, but it seems it listens only on IPv6 ("tcp6" in netstat) and not on IPv4 ("tcp"). is this a firewall issue or what?
[02:02] <Frogzoo> !sound | Zhaz
[02:02] <ubotu> Zhaz: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:02] <astro76> !gutsy | fluffles
[02:02] <ubotu> fluffles: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:02] <fluffles> oops sorry
[02:03] <astro76> fluffles, no worries ;)
[02:03] <threethirty> Does anyone know how add more virtual desktops, two is just not doing it
[02:03] <picard-pwns-kirk> right click the virtual desktop thing
[02:03] <astro76> threethirty, right click, preferences on the desktop switcher
[02:03] <Zhaz> The sound is actually working just not digital sound I only get stereo
[02:04] <b_wolf_007> astro76: can you help me please, can we chat in private window
[02:04] <astro76> b_wolf_007, in the channel please
[02:04] <threethirty> astro76, all that gives me is the way to put the virtul desktops in different rows
[02:05] <astro76> threethirty, you using 3d desktop effects?
[02:05] <astro76> or standard gnome?
[02:05] <threethirty> yeah, in gutsy
[02:05] <johnnyjet> threethirty, not, it also allows you to select more virtual desktops.
[02:05] <astro76> #ubuntu+1
[02:05] <b_wolf_007> astro76, sorry
[02:05] <astro76> or #ubuntu-effects
[02:06] <threethirty> astro76, ty
[02:06] <BlackCow> ok so i dont know if anyone remembers my earlyer problem but this is how it stands, ubuntu server edition 7.04 can see my DFE-530TX+, the eathernet connection works on a lap top, but the computer isnt showing up on my network nor can it ping anything internally or externally
[02:06] <BlackCow> where do I go from here
[02:07] <bmk789> BlackCow: did it get an IP?
[02:07] <astro76> BlackCow, what do you mean it works on a laptop? ubuntu server is installed on a regular machine?
[02:07] <aLeSD> hi I upgraded to 7.10 ... but how to configure compiz fusion ?
[02:07] <bmk789> aLeSD: #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <BlackCow> the eathernet works on a laptop seperatly
[02:08] <aLeSD> ok
[02:08] <BlackCow> but when i plug into the server the basetation isnt connecting to it
[02:08] <BlackCow> and assigning it an IP
[02:08] <superkirbyartist> Why does my computer hang (ie. clock which display seconds stops moving, mouse stops moving, keyboard doesn't respond) so often?
[02:08] <bmk789> BlackCow: try running "sudo dhclient eth0"
[02:08] <SpudDogg> What is the best way to find out the GRUB name for a partition?  i.e. (hdx,x)
[02:08] <BlackCow> ok, and just to make sure you can run a server behind a router right? as long as you have the correct ports open
[02:09] <anonymous1> I still get timeouts from the two servers.
[02:09] <anonymous1> It also looks like /var/log/auth.log doesn't show any attempted login.
[02:09] <SpudDogg> !grub
[02:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:09] <Leovenous> Okay I'm annoyed.... getting the grub 18 error....
[02:09] <bmk789> BlackCow: yes
[02:09] <astro76> BlackCow, yeah you have to forward ports
[02:09] <Leovenous> The forums say its an issue with the HD setting
[02:09] <BlackCow> right, ok im going to try that thing
[02:10] <Leovenous> None of the workarounds in the threads have... worked.
[02:10] <superkirbyartist> Why does my computer hang (ie. clock which display seconds stops moving, mouse stops moving, keyboard doesn't respond) so often?
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> Especially noting I'm using "stable" 7.04
[02:11] <BlackCow> thank you, sudo dhclient eth0 worked
[02:11] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: sounds like a hardware problem or kernel panic
[02:11] <b_wolf_007> EminX: can you give me a favour
[02:11] <BlackCow> ill have to remember that
[02:11] <Hilikus> can someone help me with this warning when starting apache
[02:11] <Hilikus> [Tue Oct 02 20:10:20 2007]  [warn]  The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/wiki at line 1 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias.
[02:11] <astro76> superkirbyartist, yeah probably a piece of hardware.. how long does it hang?
[02:11] <superkirbyartist> bmk789: yes, during the GUI.
[02:11] <Hilikus> there are no other aliases in there referencing that directory
[02:11] <EminX> b_wolf_007: I'll try, ask me
[02:11] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: could it be overheating?
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> It hangs at random times and I cannot use the computer anymore without restarting.
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> bmk789: installed two cheap fans, no help.
[02:12] <usr13> Are ati drivers available in some repository some place?
[02:12] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: have you monitored temps?
[02:12] <datakid> how can I clear some room on my boot partition? I need to clear up 111K :)
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> bmk789 how do we do that?
[02:12] <superkirbyartist> Is there a gnome-applet?
[02:13] <Leovenous> Depending on how I set CMOS I either get that error 18 or I get an endless loop of "Grub"
[02:13] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors sensors-detect
[02:13] <b_wolf_007> EminX: I'm trying to use desktop effects and have problems with graphic drivers
[02:13] <astro76> superkirbyartist, sometimes you can just check in the bios too
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, you running restricted 3d drivers?
[02:14] <superkirbyartist> astro76, have to.
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, what card?
[02:14] <usr13> !find ati 7.10
[02:14] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters (and 140 others)
[02:14] <superkirbyartist> nvidia.
[02:14] <bmk789> Leovenous: try reinstalling grub
[02:14] <astro76> superkirbyartist, exactly which one? :p
[02:15] <usr13> !find ati
[02:15] <ubotu> Found: binutils-static, foomatic-db, foomatic-db-engine, foomatic-db-hpijs, foomatic-filters (and 140 others)
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> astro76: Geforce somethingish, 256MB of RAM, costs 100$.
[02:15] <Leovenous> Can I do just that step with the ubuntu-server install disk?
[02:15] <yell0w> hey guys, has anyone got their "export to external monitor" key to work ?
[02:15] <bmk789> Leovenous: i believe so
[02:15] <astro76> superkirbyartist, if it's not a heat issue, the basics of hardware troubleshooting is to remove stuff until the problem goes away
[02:15] <Leovenous> Or do I need grub by itself
[02:15] <superkirbyartist> astro76, bmk789, cannot find sensors-detect
[02:16] <bmk789> Leovenous: it seems your grub install is either incorrectly configured or corrupt
[02:16] <datakid> how can I clear some room on my boot partition? I need to clear up 111K :)
[02:16] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: then its just lm-sensors, my mistake
[02:16] <bmk789> datakid: uninstall previous kernels?
[02:16] <astro76> datakid, uninstall old kernel versions?
[02:16] <datakid> ok cheers
[02:16] <superkirbyartist> ...nice magic trick, what was it supposed to do?
[02:17] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: after thats installed, run "sudo sensors-detect" and basically answer yes to everything, when thats done just run "sensors" and it should give system temps
[02:17] <SpudDogg> Is it possible to boot ubuntu from a SATA drive, and windows from an IDE drive?
[02:17] <kitche> SpudDogg: yes of course
[02:18] <Troseph> Check it out: Ubuntu in VirtualBox in on MacOS http://flickr.com/photos/troseph/sets/72157602243564005/
[02:18] <datakid> bmk789, astro76 how would I do that? Synaptic only tells me one is installed?
[02:18] <SpudDogg> kitche, how do i find out the grub names (hdx,x) for that windows partition?
[02:18] <astro76> datakid, you searched for "linux"
[02:18] <superkirbyartist> Why is there a Maxim?  Is this Linuxxx now?
[02:18] <kitche> SpudDogg: fdisk -l usually windows parition is always ,0 you have to figure out the hdX part
[02:18] <bmk789> SpudDogg: it depends which is set as master in bios
[02:19] <astro76> datakid, I guess you made your /boot too small
[02:19] <mneptok> datakid: if you have only one kernel installed and you're out of space, your /boot is too small or you need to stop storing mp3s there.
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> SpudDogg: the few times I have tried mixing ide and sata drives in the same box.. it became rather sluggish like the system was slowed down by adding the ide
[02:19] <superkirbyartist> Now what?
[02:19] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: what did you just run?
[02:19] <superkirbyartist> sensors-detectt
[02:20] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: then "sensors" should give you the temps
[02:20] <datakid> astro76 - yes, I did, and there's only one listed, but when I boot there are >2 listed in the grub boot menu
[02:20] <austin_> does anyone know how to open a .rar file?
[02:20] <Troseph> urar
[02:20] <Frogzoo> austin_: unrar
[02:21] <julien_> apt-get install rar
[02:21] <frylock^> i just installed ubuntu, i plug in my USB wifi adapter, it recognizes my network, however hangs forever when trying to connect to it. i started out with wep, now i removed encryption altogether, problem persists.
[02:21] <SpudDogg> kitche, fdisk shows the ntfs partition on hda1 (so partition 0, i understand that much) but out of the three HDDs in this computer, I don't know how to find out what the hdx would be
[02:21] <Pelo> austin_, sudo apt-get unrar and then just right click the file and extract
[02:21] <superkirbyartist> Thanks.  +37C, playing a ZOEgirl video on RealPlayer.
[02:21] <SpudDogg> Jack_Sparrow, yea, this is only temporary...I dont use windoes
[02:21] <SpudDogg> windows
[02:21] <austin_> thanks
[02:21] <superkirbyartist> Went up to 38C.
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> 39C... oh no, it will blow up!
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> 38
[02:22] <bmk789> superkirbyartist: that should let you make sure your proc stay within its stable temps, what CPU?
[02:22] <kitche> SpudDogg: would be hd0 then
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> ZOE left and now it's 33C.
[02:22] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  your cpu temp ?  laptop or desktop ?
[02:22] <superkirbyartist> Desk with two fans.  Notice how much heat RealPlayer makes.
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <pompillo> yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[02:22] <SpudDogg> kitche, /boot/grub/device.map shows (hd0) is my /dev/sda
[02:23] <astro76> !ops | pompillo
[02:23] <ubotu> pompillo: Help!  How would you folks go about logging a user off remotely? I know how I would do it. (I am a solaris admin) but I want to see if there is something better.
[02:23] <SpudDogg> kitche, tried that :(  and hd2-7
[02:23] <erichj> josh, you shouldn't
[02:23] <josh__> currently, i cant create folders etc in the folder
[02:23] <superkirbyartist> Is there a gnome-applet (or one I can make) that will tell me the temperature?
[02:24] <SpudDogg> kitche, but i dont know if i had the partition at 0 or 1
[02:24] <erichj> josh, create a symlink to /var/www from your home directory
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, there's one for gnome-panel
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> GO FIREFOX <IP_ADDRESS> BOO FIREFOX <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:24] <the_chocobo> can anyone tell me how to install java?
[02:24] <josh__> ok...
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> CoasterMaster, what's it called?
[02:24] <PThomas> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu-server in CommandLine, is there anyway for the 'terminal' to be fit to the screen?
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> !overheat
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about overheat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <superkirbyartist> !temp
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about temp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <astro76> the_chocobo, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:24] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, my desktop has many fans in it and the temp goes up to 60C on a hot day, the only time I ever go below 40C is in the morning if the case is open and I left the windows open on a cold night
[02:24] <erichj> the_chocobo, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[02:24] <the_chocobo> thanks
[02:24] <LjL> !msgthebot
[02:24] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:24] <kitche> SpudDogg: hmm then something is odd if grub can't detect your drive
[02:24] <mneptok> the_chocobo: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[02:24] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, Weather Report.  Right click on a panel and select Add to Panel
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, why does mine hang so much?
[02:25] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, might have to do with the cpu you have
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Silly, that's the city whether!
[02:25] <frylock^> i just installed ubuntu, i plug in my USB wifi adapter, it recognizes my network, however hangs forever when trying to connect to it. i started out with wep, now i removed encryption altogether, problem persists. rebooted pc and router, problem persits. i googled, many complaints but no answers.
[02:25] <arakthor> superkirbyartist: are you overclocking your machine?
[02:25] <CoasterMaster> superkirbyartist, ohhhhhhhhh you're talking internal temp...you just said temperature
[02:25] <superkirbyartist> Arakthor, no need to, it's 1.8GHz.
[02:26] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, and it is quite possible you are not reading the cpu temp,  I get 38 on case and on hdd but never on cpu
[02:26] <superkirbyartist> Yes, CoasterMaster.
[02:26] <CoasterMaster> !imsensors
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imsensors - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <SpudDogg> kitche, that's what i thought.  i just checked /boot/grub/menu.lst and i had it set to (hd2,0) then at the grub menu i tried (hd1-7,0-3)  and got nothing.  is there a grub command i can run to list all the partitions?
[02:26] <bmk789> !lmsensors
[02:26] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[02:26] <LjL> !info lm-sensors
[02:26] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.1-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 489 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[02:26] <kitche> SpudDogg: hmm not sure might want to look it up
[02:26] <SpudDogg> kitche, rgr.  thanks man
[02:26] <PThomas> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu-server in CommandLine, is there anyway for the 'terminal' to be fit to the screen?
[02:26] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  sensors applets ,  it's in synaptic you can access it from the add to pannel menu when right clicking the pannel
[02:26] <kitche> I really wish my computer had sensors in it :(
[02:27] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, this might be helpfull to you  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: F11
[02:27] <Pelo> kitche, are you sure it doesn'T ?
[02:27] <PThomas> mneptok: ?
[02:27] <PThomas> that just adds ~
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: you want gterm to be fullscreen?
[02:27] <cafuego> kitche: You cna probably play with hddtemp even if you don't have cpu or chipset sensors.
[02:27] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, it's "PCI Card".  And it goes up with graphic tasks (video).
[02:27] <superkirbyartist> 28 right now.
[02:27] <kitche> Pelo: yep I m sure my temp is -238 degrees :) the bios doesn't have sensor information either
[02:27] <PThomas> mneptok: it's just command line, theres no desktop.
[02:27] <erichj> i think he means tty1
[02:27] <mneptok> PThomas: i don't think i understand what you want
[02:28] <frylock^> April 4th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
[02:28] <frylock^> Too bad getting WiFi to work with Ubuntu is such a flipping hassle. Thats the deal-breaker right there. My days of hassling commands and special case stuff are long-over. (In fact I think they went out the door just about the time the 486DX 33 was no longer the hottest thing going. Wake me up when Linux works with WiFi.
[02:28] <mneptok> PThomas: is the dispaly off center or not taking up the full screen? change the monitor geometry using its menus.
[02:28] <bmk789> frylock^: what device?
[02:28] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  that's the temp of your video card then, not the cpu
[02:28] <PThomas> mneptok: what menus?
[02:28] <pike_> frylock^: i have zero issues with wifi on various cards
[02:28] <arakthor> frylok: get a non-broadcom card
[02:28] <PThomas> mneptok: I just want the CL full screen
[02:28] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, it would probably go up even more if you pay a very graphicaly intense game
[02:28] <arakthor> frylok: I know what you run, and broadcom + linux == unhappy times
[02:28] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust the monitor
[02:29] <cafuego> arakthor: Sorry, my broadcom works hassle free and has done so for a good 12 months.
[02:29] <erichj> arakthor, my broadcom cards all work out of the box with gutsy
[02:29] <PThomas> mneptok: It's only with server, my xp on my other partition fits to screen.
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> my broadcom is fine
[02:29] <arakthor> haven't tried with gutsy, just got an ew lappie with an atheros
[02:29] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust. the. monitor.
[02:29] <macd> does ubuntu-server use fb in console? his terminal might be centered in the screen
[02:29] <Error403> I don't have any trouble with my toshiba laptop's wifi.
[02:29] <mneptok> frylock^: please don't troll like that
[02:30] <the_chocobo> okay, it keeps telling me to insert the disk 'ubuntu 7.04 _feisty tawn_ - release i386
[02:30] <frylock^> arakthor, pike_, bmk789: i use edimax
[02:30] <PThomas> mneptok: Why would I adjust the monitor, if desktop and xp fit to screen, but cl doesnt.
[02:30] <pike_> the_chocobo: when installing software?
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, what's wrong with that?
[02:30] <superkirbyartist> BTW, GFX card is AGP.
[02:30] <the_chocobo> yes
[02:30] <erichj> broadcom 440 ethernet and 4318 wireless work with no problems for me
[02:30] <Pelo> the_chocobo,  so insert it
[02:30] <mneptok> PThomas: because WINDOWS IS NOT LINUX?!
[02:30] <cafuego> PThomas: Because that's how you fix it. *sigh*
[02:30] <macd> PThomas, b/c its running at a different resolution.
[02:30] <cafuego> PThomas: Difference video mode, needs adjustment. That's just how it is.
[02:30] <PThomas> So how do I change resolution in CL?
[02:30] <rav> does anyone know how to enable direct rendering in a intel chipset? or a  Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device to be EXACT.
[02:30] <pike_> the_chocobo: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put a # in front of the cd entry or remove it in synaptic then sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <the_chocobo> i never got a disk
[02:30] <mneptok> PThomas: adjust the monitor settings. case closed.
[02:31] <Pelo> superkirbyartist,  nothing wrong with it ,  I'm just saying that  it's not your cpu temp you are talking about , which is what ppl usualy refer to when they speak of their comp's temp , as I did when I talked about mine
[02:31] <cafuego> PThomas: You don't, you tweak the controls on the monitor to fix up alignment and/or size.
[02:31] <pike_> the_chocobo: you dont need it
[02:31] <Pelo> the_chocobo, how did you install ubuntu ?
[02:31] <macd> I guess you could use fb to change the resolution, but just seems silly on server
[02:31] <superkirbyartist> Pelo, I'm trying to install gkrellm
[02:31] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, best of luck,  I didn't realy care much for it myself
[02:31] <pike_> macd: not silly. l337  ;p
[02:31] <thiebaude> im having trouble running briquolo
[02:31] <the_chocobo> Pelo: my friend let me borrow a burned disk
[02:31] <anonymous1> the_chocobo, you can also download the ISO image file and mount it in /cdrom/  I had to do this because I don't have a CD-ROM drive!
[02:31] <frylock^> mneptok: sorry about the trolling. i just browsed the web for the same problem and found http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html#comment-10595, that comment pretty much reflected my moods
[02:32] <cafuego> PThomas: it probably even has an auto-align function.
[02:32] <superkirbyartist> Why not?
[02:32] <PThomas> cafuego: I'm on a laptop, there is none.
[02:32] <pike_> frylock^: wpa is still a bit more of a hassel
[02:32] <rav> anyone, know how to enable direct rendering?
[02:32] <frylock^> pike_: i'm talking about basic connection, no wpa, even no wep
[02:32] <JpSSgtRock> Hi, all
[02:32] <erichj> rav, what driver for intel are you using?
[02:32] <Error403> okay, I have a hauppage pvr-150 tuner and I can't get it to work with, say, irw until I type in the console:: sudo pckg-reconfigure lirc - Is there a way to make  lirc work correctly at startup?
[02:32] <JpSSgtRock> Is this the right forum for a question about cupsys?
[02:32] <rav> how would i go about checking that?
[02:32] <Pelo> the_chocobo,   menu > system > admin > software sources,  first tab I beleive,  uncheck the cd at the bottom ,  while you are in there check all the other boxes on the first tab and the backport one in the third tab,  then try to do your install again
[02:33] <frylock^> pike_: the router is tp-link xr something, and the adapter is edimax. works fine with windoze (plug&play)
[02:33] <yell0w> !ask > JpSSgtRock
[02:33] <mneptok> frylock^: i'll give you a million dollars if you guess the secret word. you get one guess. no hints. and if you fail, it's *your* fault for "being stupid." it's not *my* fault for being ridiculously secretive.
[02:33] <erichj> rav open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:33] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, this is the ubuntu channel , try asking if we can't anser we'll try and direct you to where they can
[02:33] <mneptok> frylock^: this is the sentiment you are parroting
[02:33] <erichj> should fix you up
[02:33] <thiebaude> i have a question about briquolo, if anyone could help
[02:33] <superkirbyartist> This is ugly!
[02:33] <JpSSgtRock> OoooK.
[02:34] <anonymous1> Thanks for the instantaneous help:)  This looks like a job for the forums and some time.
[02:34] <pike_> frylock^: never heard of that card sorry.  most any linksys or whatever youd buy in a best buy or radioshack will work
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> I've got a problem with my pagesize.
[02:34] <rav> it says i have the newest version
[02:34] <Pelo> superkirbyartist, what do you want to do ? monitor your temps ?   there are pannel aps to do that
[02:34] <pike_> frylock^: there is always ndiswrapper
[02:34] <mneptok> frylock^: wireless does not work with a lot of cards because vendors *refuse* to release specs. this is not a technical problem with Linux. it's a social problem with wireless manufacturers.
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> CUPS inists that it's set to letter, but it sees the printable area as A4.
[02:34] <superkirbyartist> Yes, Pelo.
[02:34] <rav> glxinfo | grep direct gives me a big fat NO
[02:34] <frylock^> pike_: nicely enough, the usb is straight away recognized and it also picked up the network. connecting is the problem.
[02:34] <JpSSgtRock> I've changed /etc/papersize from 'a4' to 'letter'.
[02:34] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, you need to check in both cups and in the app you are printing from
[02:35] <mneptok> JpSSgtRock: what app?
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> I've also re-re-checked that CUPS is set to letter.
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> Right now, I'm just trying to print the test page correctly.
[02:35] <erichj> rav, give me a sec then. think you need to run dpkg --reconfigure, just a sec
[02:35] <frylock^> pike_: yes, i've read about ndiswrapper, what is that; and does it come by default. i'm obviously in a bit of catch-22 here, i can't apt-get anything i don't have since i don't have network, thus no internet.
[02:35] <pike_> frylock^: ive been amazed recently by the stuff ubuntu detects but that does sound like a driver problem
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> The test page says:
[02:35] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, if the test page is correct check in the settings in the app, and check the printer settings from the app
[02:35] <rav> ok, thanks man.
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> Page Size 8.25x10.38 in
[02:35] <JpSSgtRock> The Test page is incorrect.
[02:36] <pike_> frylock^: ndiswrapper basically allows you to use the windows driver for your card in linux
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: do you have PCMCIA/Cardbus or PCI in that machine?
[02:36] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  please don'T use the enter key for punctuation
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: yes, there is a wired network card
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: unused of course
[02:36] <pike_> frylock^: best off asking someone else here though ive never used it
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: spare PCI slot?
[02:36] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  also try this,  delete the printer and install it again selecting the correct page size when you install
[02:36] <frylock^> mneptok: i bet i do
[02:36] <eggd> i have a iso file that is splitted up into ~40 rar-files. how do i open it?
[02:36] <superkirbyartist> Later.
[02:36] <kevinO> how do i add write premissions to a perticular folder?
[02:36] <JpSSgtRock> OK, hang on.
[02:36] <frylock^> let me take a look
[02:36] <mneptok> frylock^: you in the US?
[02:37] <Pelo> eggd,  just extract the  r00 file
[02:37] <jrib> !rar > eggd (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:37] <pike_> eggd: sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar e file.rar.001
[02:37] <usr13> kevinO: chmod +w foldername
[02:37] <Pelo> kevinO,   sudo chmod 777 /path/folder
[02:37] <frylock^> mneptok: got two pci slots available, but i'm outside us
[02:37] <mneptok> frylock^: where?
[02:37] <kevinO> pelo thanks
[02:37] <mneptok> ah, Israel
[02:37] <frylock^> mneptok: israel. you think a pci-based wireless adapter would do the trick?
[02:38] <erichj> rav, type sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <gregorovius> I want to install RKhunter, and it needs a mail transport agent, but I don't want to have exim running all the time. anybody knows of a really minimal and light MTA?
[02:38] <usr13> kevinO: Pelo: Told you how to give rwx permissions
[02:38] <PThomas> Okay, maybe I'm just being a n00b, but I still don't understand what you are talking about.
[02:38] <mneptok> frylock^: only one that is supported. give me a URL to your favorite online hardware vendor.
[02:38] <Rodya> does anyone know of a graphical web browser that is really small and lightweight? (basically what I am looking for is the ability to browse the web and nothing else, small, fast, not a lot of features)
[02:38] <usr13> kevinO: Pelo: Told you how to give rwx permissions to ALL
[02:38] <mneptok> frylock^: i'll find you a well-supported card that will "just work"
[02:38] <pike_> Rodya: dillo or in terminal do links2 -g  thats cli but it allows mouse and is graphical with the -g
[02:39] <mneptok> frylock^: for not *too* many shekels ;)
[02:39] <rav> dkpg not found?
[02:39] <kevinO> usr13 to everyone?
[02:39] <Pelo> rav,   dpkg
[02:39] <frylock^> mneptok: ;) let me look for the wifi adapters, i don't think you'll be able to browse in the holy language
[02:39] <erichj> yeah
[02:39] <usr13>  kevinO:  To all
[02:39] <Pelo> kevinO, try 755 instead
[02:39] <PThomas> How am I suppose to make CommandLine fit to screen?
[02:39] <SpudDogg> !grub
[02:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <usr13>  kevinO:  To user owner others
[02:39] <mneptok> frylock^: you sure? i may be a sabra. ;)
[02:40] <Rodya> thanks pike_ that works great
[02:40] <pike_> PThomas: sure its not just monitor setting? try the adjustmenst on monitor
[02:40] <PThomas> pike_: It's a laptop, I don't have much only brightness.
[02:40] <slimjimslim> hi, my x windows is broken (probably b/c of a new graphics driver) and i get, from `ps -A`, a process called XKeepsCrashing, does anyone know what that means?
[02:41] <rav> it says stuff about --help and --dhelp and bla
[02:41] <Pelo> slimjimslim, try doing a forum search for the error msg you get   www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:41] <DoYouKnow> Anyone know if James Burgett is doing anything in the chicagoland area?
[02:41] <frylock^> mneptok: i think you'll find it somewhat unrich: https://www.misradia.co.il/application/product_viewRegular.asp?Pid=202&Group=2
[02:41] <Pelo> rav,   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:41] <pike_> PThomas: xgamma -gamma 1.5  or 1 to return to normal brightness basically 1 is normal and 1.2 2 3 whatever is brighter
[02:41] <darthc0da> hey, I'm thinking of getting ubuntu for a new thinkpad x30, which has a 1.2 ghz pentium 3 and 256 mb ram
[02:41] <DoYouKnow> relating to refurbishing PCs with ubuntu and giving them to older people, etc.
[02:41] <darthc0da> how fast would it run?
[02:41] <rav> Ok, it poped up
[02:42] <pike_> darthc0da: xubuntu should run well on that
[02:42] <PThomas> pike_: I'm not trying to change brightness, just saying thats the only shortcut keys I have for the display.
[02:42] <Pelo> darthc0da, that's close to the minimum
[02:42] <pike_> PThomas: lol oh
[02:42] <darthc0da> ok
[02:42] <darthc0da> do you know if there'd be a better distro?
[02:42] <darthc0da> (or is that not for a ubuntu irc channel lol)
[02:42] <mneptok> frylock^: todah raba
[02:42] <JpSSgtRock> After re-adding the printer, the CUPS test page is still set to A4 instead of letter.
[02:42] <Pelo> darthc0da, xubuntu was suggested
[02:42] <PThomas> pike_: Yea, I just want to have command line in a full window, rather than just a 640x468 box maybe?
[02:42] <erichj> rav, just answer the questions
[02:42] <soundray> darthc0da: I run xubuntu on a slower machine than that, and it's fine
[02:42] <darthc0da> ok
[02:42] <usr13>  kevinO:  1=r 2=w 4=x  1+2=3 1+4=5 2+4=6 1+2+4=7
[02:43] <pike_> PThomas: i see it is in center of screen?
[02:43] <darthc0da> thx
[02:43] <PThomas> pike_: Yes.
[02:43] <frylock^> mneptok: toda leha
[02:43] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  check all the propertie tabs,  some of my printers have more then one place for settingthe paper size
[02:43] <rav> what video card driver should i select for a intel chipset?
[02:43] <JpSSgtRock> OK, will doublecheck.  This is an HP3210 if that helps.
[02:43] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock,  as an after thought , you mean the test page from cups right  ? not the test page for the printer
[02:43] <erichj> which chipset do you have?
[02:44] <blahblahblah> anyone know how to make "sudo modprobe bcm43xx" automatically start when the computer boots up
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> Yes the test page from CUPS.
[02:44] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, it doesn'T help me , but it might be worth a search in the fourm
[02:44] <pike_> PThomas: not sure what the issue is but adding vga=0x317 to the kernel line in menu.lst and reboot may work. sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst look for the kernel   /boot/etc and just add the vga to end of the line
[02:44] <soundray> blahblahblah: 'echo bcm43x | sudo tee -a /etc/modules'
[02:44] <pike_> PThomas: that doesnt have to be hex
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> The forum led me to /etc/papersize.
[02:44] <rav> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device  that one
[02:44] <soundray> blahblahblah: forgot one x, but you get the gist
[02:44] <JpSSgtRock> That's why I'm here now.  :)
[02:44] <mneptok> frylock^: ugh. it *is* a mess ... balagan. look here - http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[02:44] <Pelo> JpSSgtRock, got it
[02:45] <blahblahblah> soundray: would i have to keep putting my password in as well
[02:45] <guru> there seems to be an issue with python2.5 and freevo - how do i uninstall python2.5 and revert to python2.4 (including the older version of pygame which works with freevo)?
[02:45] <mneptok> frylock^: use that to find a PCI card with good MadWiFi support, and Ubuntu will be happy.
[02:45] <erichj> rav i810
[02:45] <Pelo> guru,  try with synaptic
[02:45] <soundray> blahblahblah: no. /etc/modules contains a list of modules to be loaded at startup. No questions asked
[02:45] <Pelo> later folks
[02:45] <guru> if i do 'apt-get remove python2.5' it attempts to remove all packages which depend on python
[02:45] <PThomas> pike_: Is it fine if its '....ro quiet splash vga=0x317' ?
[02:46] <pike_> guru: any reason not to leave 2.5 and 2.4?
[02:46] <pike_> phoenixz: yep
[02:46] <Pelo> guru, there is a way in synaptic to install previous versions of a package ,  just click around and you'll find it
[02:46] <frylock^> mneptok: USB adapters are no good?
[02:46] <SpudDogg> kitche, i got grub to get past the menu, but now i get a hard lockup with just "Starting up..." on my screen.  keyboard is locked, everything is locked.  any ideas?  i found out though that my windows partition is on (hd1,0)
[02:46] <mneptok> frylock^: PCI with MadWiFi support are *far* better
[02:46] <guru> pike_: yes, scroll up...freevo does not work with python2.5
[02:46] <blahblahblah> soundray: thanks
[02:46] <rav> ok, how much mem should i give the card? in KB
[02:46] <mneptok> rav: 0
[02:46] <blahblahblah> soundray: would that work for any user signed in?
[02:47] <pike_> rav: just let it autodetect usually
[02:47] <volantares> hi all
[02:47] <rav> ok, and if it isnt good, i can always comeback and give it more later right?
[02:47] <jrib> PThomas: you need to press the right button on your keyboard so it stretches, mine was fn-f5 or change res like pike_ suggests
[02:47] <volantares> ikonia: hi, if you're there
[02:47] <pike_> PThomas: sorry that yep was for you :)
[02:47] <soundray> blahblahblah: anything in /etc is system-wide. Modules are loaded before any login comes up.
[02:47] <frylock^> mneptok: are you certain that it's not a config thing? ubuntu recognizes right away the usb adapter and the existance of the networks. my router can pick the adapter up too, it just says "Status = Disconnected"
[02:47] <D4N`> yo
[02:47] <blahblahblah> soundray: i appreciate it.. thanks
[02:47] <erichj> rav, for driver you should actually put intel
[02:47] <erichj> rav if that is available
[02:48] <jrib> !tty > PThomas (read the private message from ubotu)
[02:48] <PThomas> restarting
[02:48] <mneptok> frylock^: i don't use or recommend USB adapters. they are almost universally crap and undependable.
[02:48] <PThomas> jrib: thanks
[02:48] <volantares> unreliable?
[02:48] <mneptok> frylock^: *must* eat. the MadWiFi compatability page will guide you right. l'hit!
[02:49] <frylock^> ciao
[02:49] <soundray> mneptok: anecdotal, I know, but I use a wireless USB device routinely on my desktop without trouble for about a year, everyday heavy use. I had an Atheros PCI card die on me.
[02:49] <jacob_> how do i play *.wav files?
[02:49] <soundray> jacob_: gnome-open file.wav
[02:49] <Tmcarr> I have an GeForce FX 5200 Video card, does anyone have any instructions for installing to correct drivers for it, and if it will increase resolution?
[02:49] <rav> ok, i answered all the questions, so should i restart or ?
[02:50] <mneptok> !worksforme > soundray
[02:50] <mneptok> :P
[02:50] <usr13> jacob_: play *.wav
[02:50] <erichj> rav hit catrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[02:50] <mneptok> Tmcarr: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:50] <erichj> ctrl
[02:50] <pike_> rav: and pray
[02:50] <erichj> yeah
[02:50] <erichj> lol
[02:50] <soundray> mneptok: I could have fired that at you
[02:50] <Tmcarr> do I just put that into a terminal?
[02:50] <mneptok> soundray: what?
[02:50] <guru> i don't see a way to revert to a previous version
[02:51] <soundray> mneptok: !worksforme
[02:51] <PThomas> Thanks, it works now.
[02:51] <mneptok> soundray: PCI wireless cards is !works_in_Canonical's_hardware_certification_lab though ;)
[02:51] <Tmcarr> Wont let me use that command, says invalid access
[02:52] <erichj> hmm rav should have been back by now
[02:52] <soundray> mneptok: can you point me to a source of that information?
[02:52] <mikebot> DOes ayone here know about using latex in ubuntu?
[02:52] <mneptok> soundray: sure. i just told you.
[02:52] <Tmcarr> "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:52] <Tmcarr> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:52] <Tmcarr> "
[02:52] <soundray> mikebot: yeah, a bit
[02:52] <h1st0> !latex > mikebot
[02:52] <mikebot> soundray: I'm getting this error when I type 'latex blah.tex': dvips: Font ecrm1728 at 8000 not found; scaling 600 instead.
[02:52] <soundray> mneptok: I was thinking of a URL, perhaps?
[02:53] <gogeta> zzzzzzzzz
[02:53] <erichj> Tmcarr, sudo dpkg configure -a
[02:53] <mneptok> soundray: we don't publish our partner's private certification data
[02:53] <mneptok> *partners'
[02:53] <volantares> if i want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, what's the best way to partition things? (I can dedicate a IDE drive to each)
[02:53] <rav> no dice, i hit the code and it still says no direct render enabled. should I do the code again, and select intel video driver?
[02:53] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:53] <erichj> rav, yeah
[02:53] <gogeta> volantares the ubuntu install can handel that
[02:53] <soundray> mneptok: in other words, that lab evidence is no better than mine.
[02:54] <SerenadedAbyss> woot!! Ubuntu...
[02:54] <gogeta> anyway you like
[02:54] <guru> whenever i attempt to remove python2.5 synaptic tells me that i have to remove several other packages which i use - i don't see a way to easily revert to python2.4 without uninstalling everything then reinstalling
[02:54] <SerenadedAbyss> is soo not my style...
[02:54] <rav> and it has nothing to do with how much mem the card has?
[02:54] <erichj> rav if that doesn't work than i am not sure, my laptop uses intel 945 but it does direct render
[02:54] <volantares> gogeta: except the way i did originally.. but that's ok.. hmm ok
[02:54] <soundray> mikebot: I can't imagine that being right. Why would calling latex invoke dvips?
[02:54] <erichj> rav, your bios controls that so don't worry about it
[02:54] <gogeta> what?
[02:54] <mneptok> soundray: no, i just can't show you specific internal data. but not one person in this office would use or recommend a USB adapter based on our experiences.
[02:54] <soundray> mikebot: what output format are you aiming for?
[02:55] <kst> volantares get 1 winxp partition, 1 linux partition, 1 /home parition, 1 swap partition and MAYBE 1 partition to exchange files between win and linux although both sys can read both NTFS and EXT3 (with drivers)
[02:55] <eggd> How do I open splitted rar files?
[02:55] <gogeta> volantares why all that
[02:55] <soundray> eggd: point unrar-free to the first file
[02:55] <mikebot> soundray: pdf, sorry, that's from 'dvipdf'
[02:55] <kst> eggd open the first one, should load the others automatically i think
[02:55] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:55] <gogeta> volantares go to manul slect the dirve you whant linux on or wanna resize the installer handels all this
[02:55] <kst> nice nickname btw eggd :)
[02:55] <eggd> kst: it didn't
[02:56] <kst> gd? :p
[02:56] <soundray> mikebot: is using 'pdflatex file.tex' an option?
[02:56] <eggd> fett gd.
[02:56] <erichj> slimjimflim, ubuntu won't fall for your tricks
[02:56] <mikebot> soundray: If it works, sure, let me try thtat.
[02:56] <jrib> eggd: read the link from ubotu
[02:56] <gogeta> yes it can even resize windows
[02:56] <slimjimflim> erichj, huh?
[02:56] <volantares> kst and gogeta: yeah, that will be fine, my bigger concern is whether windows should be put on the first drive or second as far as making things as easy as possible for grub
[02:56] <the_chocobo> i need some help, i am installing a program and it keeps telling me to insert the installation cd but i don't have one
[02:56] <erichj> slimjimflim, just messing with you
[02:56] <mikebot> soundray: Still poor output
[02:56] <kst> dont think it matters volantares
[02:56] <gogeta> i would say first
[02:57] <slimjimflim> erichj, so you don't know anything about it?
[02:57] <soundray> mikebot: you mean the PDF is poor? Or you're still getting errors?
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: This error resulted when I accidently tried to dvi a file that didn't exist I think--and I tried reinstalling all the tex-base, etc. files, but it still does this.
[02:57] <gogeta> grub can handel it wyther way but windows tends to not like not being on first
[02:57] <volantares> gogeta win on first, lin of second?
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: The pdf quality is poor..
[02:57] <erichj> slimjimflim, can't say that i have ever experienced that before
[02:57] <mikebot> soundray: let me pastebin you
[02:57] <rav> okk, ill ctrl alt back and pray
[02:57] <godzirra> is there a way to resize two ext3 partitions without formatting them both?
[02:57] <gogeta> yea that will work fine
[02:57] <erichj> rav good luck!
[02:57] <SerenadedAbyss> forget this channel... wayyy to busy...
[02:57] <soundray> mikebot: which version of ubuntu?
[02:57] <kst> mikebot maybe remove it completele and get a full texlive install from CTAN
[02:58] <astro76> slimjimflim, try with su -l
[02:58] <jacob_> usr13 http://pastebin.com/m48fab58d
[02:58] <mikebot> soundray: http://pastebin.com/m26be5991
[02:58] <the_chocobo> i need some help, i am installing a program and it keeps telling me to insert the installation cd but i don't have one
[02:58] <mikebot> kst: Yikes, OK, that'll be my last resort.
[02:58] <volantares> k
[02:58] <erichj> the_chocobo, download iso and mount it
[02:58] <mikebot> soundray: fiesty
[02:58] <kst> mikebot http://www.tug.org/texlive/doc/texlive-en/live.html thats what I did, everything seems to work flawlessly :)
[02:58] <volantares> well thanks.. talk to you soon i am sure
[02:58] <slimjimflim> when i switch usernames, then do whoami, i'm still the same user as before, anyone know what could cause that?
[02:58] <the_chocobo> erichj: how do i do that?
[02:58] <astro76> slimjimflim, try with su -l
[02:58] <mikebot> kst: Thanks,
[02:59] <soundray> kst: please don't recommend installing software from other sources when ubuntu packages are available
[02:59] <kst> sure, sorry
[02:59] <kst> is there even a complete texlive package (as in >1gig) in the repositories?
[02:59] <soundray> mikebot: tex-base is a tetex package. I suggest you make sure you have the texlive packages installed instead.
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: OK, I'll check that.
[03:00] <slimjimflim> astro76,  that didn't help
[03:00] <erichj> the_chocobo, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Image_.28ISO.29_files_without_burning
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: I actually have to be somewhere at 6 (I'm already late), but I'll try that.
[03:00] <mikebot> Hopefully you're still here in an hour ;)
[03:00] <mikebot> Thanks for the help though; bye,
[03:00] <slimjimflim> astry76, but thx
[03:00] <soundray> mikebot: it's quite possible that this will fix your problem. If not, you'll have to configure dvips and make it default to the desired output resolution.
[03:00] <kst> thats why i said soundray :) my tex was bugged aswell, then i removed everything and went for texlive as in the link i gave
[03:00] <mikebot> soundray: OK, perfect.
[03:00] <jacob_> anybody knows how to play .wav files?
[03:00] <iobelisk> whats the irc channel for epiphany?
[03:00] <rav> noooo, it did not do it.
[03:00] <gogeta> jacob wha?
[03:01] <gogeta> anything will play .wav
[03:01] <erichj> the_chocobo, and in case you are wondering you will need to download the iso of whichever flavor of ubuntu you are running
[03:01] <slimjimflim> jacob_ totem will probably do it
[03:01] <jacob_> gogeta, oh stupid me, let me see
[03:01] <jacob_> lol
[03:01] <slimjimflim> jacob_ aka movie player
[03:01] <gogeta> LOL
[03:01] <jrib> iobelisk: #epiphany on gnome irc
[03:01] <CarlFK> where is the gutsy version of  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/
[03:01] <rav> what driver are you running?
[03:01] <the_chocobo> erichj: thank you very much
[03:01] <soundray> !info texlive | kst
[03:01] <ubotu> kst: texlive: TeX Live: A decent selection of the TeX Live packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 2005.dfsg.3-1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:01] <erichj> the_chocobo, welcome
[03:01] <Zylstra555> I need to edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf in Nano, how do I do this?
[03:01] <ePax> Is it possible to install superkaramba on ubuntu?
[03:01] <jacob_> slimjimflim when i open the wav file directly it doesn't go, is the wav file corrupted?
[03:02] <slimjimflim> jacob_ what are you opening it w/
[03:02] <kst> so it's not soundray? :)
[03:02] <gogeta> lol its a wav
[03:02] <iobelisk> jrib: the gnome server is not listed on the xchat menu, do you know the address to it?
[03:02] <gogeta> any meda player should handel it
[03:02] <soundray> kst: it's not what?
[03:02] <kst> a full install
[03:03] <rav> erichj, no dice on that driver
[03:03] <gogeta> try a dirrent wav
[03:03] <jrib> iobelisk: irc.gnome.org should work
[03:03] <soundray> kst: yes, it is. It pulls in other packages as dependencies.
[03:03] <jacob_> slimjimflime swhen i open it directly from my mp3 player i get an error message
[03:03] <gogeta> what message
[03:03] <iobelisk> thanks, i will try that right now!
[03:03] <zetheroo> I am trying to install a plugin.... where is the folder that I am meant to drop the plugin into?
[03:03] <kst> soundray in synaptic? but what about packages you need after install because somethiing wont compile properly?
[03:03] <jacob_> gogeta, let me send you the error message
[03:04] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[03:04] <marcanela> q es esto
[03:04] <kst> zetheroo plugin for what?
[03:04] <gogeta> if its not multi line you can past it hear
[03:04] <soundray> kst: you find out which of the many non-default texlive packages provides it, and install that. apt-file comes in handy.
[03:04] <zetheroo> kst: sorry I forgot to say... GIMP
[03:05] <rav> erichj: what driver do you have for your chipset?
[03:05] <rav> f
[03:05] <soundray> kst: the set of "basic" texlive packages is 152MB installed size
[03:05] <zetheroo> kst : I need to know where the plugin directory is ... but not the one in the HOME dir..... in the root area...
[03:06] <jacob_> gogeta, please use jacob at the beginning of your messages please, if not, that'll be fine, but i would prefer you would
[03:06] <soundray> zetheroo: /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/
[03:06] <jacob_> gogeta http://pastebin.com/m4c185e11
[03:06] <zetheroo> soundray : thanks... will try that
[03:06] <Gothfunc> i have installed lirc, yet /dev/lirc does not exist, only /dev/lircd.  that's not right is it?
[03:07] <gogeta> LOL
[03:07] <soundray> Gothfunc: it's fine
[03:07] <gogeta> jacob_ i dont think its a real file
[03:07] <jacob_> gogeta, lol, you serious?
[03:07] <gogeta> jacob_ yes it says its a text file
[03:07] <gogeta> where you get it
[03:08] <Gothfunc> soundray: when i run irrecord, i get: irrecord: could not get file information for /dev/lirc
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta let me download a new wav file and see what happens
[03:08] <gogeta> jacob_ probly the classes vires in a wav
[03:08] <rav> damn, im screwed with this aint I
[03:08] <Gothfunc> do i just link /dev/lirc to /dev/lircd?
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta i have an mp3 that has a mic to record conversations in the form of wav files
[03:08] <zetheroo> how do I load a nautilus file browser as root?
[03:08] <soundray> Gothfunc: you have to configure things correctly in /etc/lirc . It's a bit tricky
[03:08] <gogeta> jacob_ a riff wav?
[03:08] <jacob_> gogeta, sorry don't know what you mean by riff wav
[03:09] <cranshinibon> hey everyone
[03:09] <gogeta> jacob_ mp3 hacked up to look like wavs
[03:09] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[03:09] <Photocopy> there we go
[03:09] <Photocopy> rofl
[03:09] <Gothfunc> soundray: ok sure, i've read the docs and found my remote's config.  i'm trying the hello world lircrc from the faq.  i'm not sure what i'm missing
[03:09] <jacob_> gogeta, i can't seem to play the record within the mp3 player, it's probably the player
[03:09] <gogeta> jacob_ well does that one play
[03:09] <jacob_> gogeta, i got one of those cheap mp3 players
[03:10] <soundray> Gothfunc: last time I checked, there wasn't much useful documentation for lirc in ubuntu, but if you look for help with recent Debian versions, the instructions should apply.
[03:10] <jacob_> gogeta it plays mp3
[03:10] <Gothfunc> soundray: so i tried using irrecord to actually see if my remote is working, and now i'm stuck
[03:10] <zetheroo> whats the command to start a session in a file browser as root?
[03:10] <gogeta> jacob_ well to play mp3 wavs you need lame installed
[03:10] <Gothfunc> soundray: ok, thanks
[03:10] <soundray> zetheroo: Alt-F2 gksudo nautilus
[03:10] <jacob_> gogeta, ok give me a chance to install that
[03:10] <cranshinibon> for some reason i keep getting the composite extension not available when I try turning on ubuntu ultimate desktop effects, how do i fix this
[03:11] <zetheroo> soundray: thanks.... its so easy to forget these things
[03:11] <jacob_> gogeta, how do i use lame?
[03:11] <jacob_> gogeta to play the fiel
[03:11] <gogeta> jacob_ its just a codec for mp3d
[03:11] <adac> where can i see in linux what kind of processor is on a workstation?
[03:11] <gogeta> jacob_ all players should just knoe to use it
[03:11] <hinogii> hmm composite on? is that the thing where you add the line Option "Composite" "On" in the xorg.conf
[03:11] <soundray> adac: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:11] <Photocopy> Any linux or other free OSes that ship free CDs? So far I am getting Solaris, Blag, and Fedora. Other than Ubuntu, who else sends out distros? I don't wan't to burn a lot of CDs, and am only a student, and without a job, so I have no funds, but I want to try a bunch of distros. (And I love the debian installer at goodbye-microsoft.com thats just aweseome. Anything like that would be nice too. Thanks.)
[03:11] <Gothfunc> can't wait for a more usable lirc configuration :)
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta i get the same error
[03:12] <gogeta> jacob_ the hacked header is probly confusing the player
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta, i'm opening the file directly, not from a player
[03:12] <adac> soundray: thx! it shows me the right model...but only 800MHZ
[03:12] <gogeta> jacob_ you try using xmms
[03:12] <adac> soundray: thx! it shows me the right model...but only 800MHZ!?
[03:12] <jacob_> gogeta, let me give it a try
[03:13] <soundray> adac: that's fine, it means that speedstep or powernow has scaled down your frequency
[03:13] <gogeta> jacob_ you just need a payr that handels those types of wav files
[03:13] <Photocopy> Usually when I ask for help I get answers here... but this is the second time i've asked this  (once yesterday) and it gets ignored.
[03:13] <soundray> adac: it will go up on demand.
[03:13] <adac> soundray: but why..it isn't running on battery right now
[03:13] <Laibsch> The latest update crashed and upon reboot I am stuck with some dpkg trouble: http://rafb.net/p/nWavKO47.html  How can I fix this?  "dpkg --configure -a" won't do anything.
[03:13] <adac> soundray: oh..i see :)
[03:13] <soundray> adac: to reduce heat output and extend the life of your hardware.
[03:14] <gogeta> jacob_ weard mp3 player btw to use a riff wav\
[03:14] <Pelo> Laibsch, di you try booting the previous kernel ?
[03:14] <jacob_> gogeta, let me see if i can get it played through the mp3 player, i still got the same error message
[03:14] <wastrel> mp3
[03:14] <adac> soundray: how nice it is to me that ubuntu:) it cares about my hardware;)
[03:14] <usr13> jacob_: play *
[03:14] <gogeta> jacob_ odd player
[03:15] <Laibsch> Pelo: What makes you think this is a kernel issue?  Or that the kernel even got an upgrade?
[03:15] <jacob_> gogeta, ok
[03:15] <EminX> is it possible, I just installed ubuntu 7.10 beta, and can't find 3d desktop , does anyone now how can use that
[03:15] <usr13> jacob_: play *.mp3
[03:15] <verme> hi!
[03:15] <Photocopy> Does ubuntu studio have everything ubuntu has??
[03:15] <Pelo> Laibsch, nvm then
[03:15] <Evanlec> EminX, its under Desktop Effects
[03:15] <gogeta> jacob_ has those hacked up wavs that are relly mp3s
[03:15] <wastrel> EminX: #ubuntu+1 for gusty (beta) questions
[03:15] <soundray> adac: you can add the CPU Frequency Monitor applet to the panel and watch the frequency going up and down as you load your CPU
[03:15] <yell0w> hey guys, i'm running a compaq with ati x200 fglrx on gutsy. how should i get the function key to switch to external display ?
[03:15] <erichj> EminX, it's enabled by default
[03:15] <Pelo> Photocopy,  you can instal everything in ubuntu studio from the repos I beleive
[03:16] <verme> why the gcc which was installed with ubuntu doesn't compile??
[03:16] <EminX> but it doesn't work
[03:16] <usr13> play /usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/*
[03:16] <fevel> can someone please help me
[03:16] <Pelo> !gutsy | yell0w
[03:16] <soundray> verme: can you elaborate?
[03:16] <Evanlec> soundray, thats only for like laptops rite? cpu frequency app dont work on my machine (Pentium D) desktop
[03:16] <ubotu> yell0w: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:16] <Pelo> fevel,  what is your issue ?
[03:16] <gogeta> jacob_ did you try just rename it from .wav to .mp3
[03:16] <the_chocobo> i am trying to copy a file and it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder"
[03:16] <Photocopy> Pelo: I am not even using ubuntu, thats why I ask, so if i wanted to install studio, i could just go get the studio iso instead of doing ubuntu then the packages.
[03:16] <EminX> wastrel: and there is no desktop effect icon on the system panel
[03:16] <verme> soundray: i don't understand you... elaborate?
[03:16] <Photocopy> Pelo: Im on debian. rofl.
[03:16] <Pelo> the_chocobo, use sudo before your copy command
[03:16] <soundray> verme: tell us more about the problem
[03:16] <wastrel> EminX: you're using 7.10, you need to ask in the 7.10 channel  #ubuntu+1
[03:17] <erichj> the_chocobo, su cp <file>
[03:17] <Photocopy> Pelo: woot. or something.
[03:17] <erichj> sudo
[03:17] <the_chocobo> thanks
[03:17] <h1st0> !sudo > the_chocobo
[03:17] <fevel> I installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu feisty, the I ran sudo nautilus& and now everytime I login inside kde asks for my password for executing as root KDE su
[03:17] <Pelo> Photocopy, I assume so
[03:17] <jacob_> usr13 play * gives me
[03:17] <jacob_> jacob@jacob-laptop:/media/disk/RECORD/VOICE$ play REC001.WAV
[03:17] <jacob_> sox: Failed reading REC001.WAV: WAVE: RIFF header not found
[03:17] <verme> soundray: >gcc base.c -o base does not compile
[03:17] <soundray> Evanlec: frequency scaling capabilities vary from model to model, but they aren't limited to laptops
[03:17] <fevel> noone helped me on kubuntu channel and im actually running ubuntu feisty
[03:17] <guru> how do i install just one package from testing?
[03:17] <soundray> verme: what does it say?
[03:17] <usr13> the_chocobo: sudo chmod +w /path/to/folder
[03:17] <EminX> wastrel: Ok thanks, I'm doing that right now
[03:18] <Evanlec> soundray, oh...what sort of cpu's have scaling capabilities?
[03:18] <verme> soundray: it says that
[03:18] <verme> base.c:1:20: error: stdlib.h: No existe el fichero  directorio
[03:18] <verme> base.c:2:19: error: stdio.h: No existe el fichero  directorio
[03:18] <h1st0> guru: download and install it although its not recomended what are you tyring to do?
[03:18] <wastrel> fevel: you shouldn't use sudo for GUI apps, you need to fix permissions on something in your homedir
[03:18] <usr13> the_chocobo: sudo cp filename /path/to/folder
[03:18] <Pelo> fevel, you should be asked for a password when you login to the kde desktop,  I'm not sure I see the problem
[03:18] <wastrel> fevel: use gksudo  for gui apps
[03:18] <soundray> verme: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[03:18] <Evanlec> !es | verme