[06:35] <sethk> dyclops, do you have a separate /home partition?
[06:35] <dyclops> sethk, yes, I do
[06:36] <iLLf8d> Audimage, you said that already, saying it again doesn't help at all
[06:36] <zerodni> jvai, not the samba server the client
[06:36] <jvai> how do i filter ports thru firestarter? i dont see the options to do it
[06:36] <iLLf8d> Audimage, gimme a bit more info about where your'e at, what you're trying to do and your hardware setup and I'll try to give you the answer you want
[06:36] <ryctor> Aeo:just coy the plugin files in the mozilla plugins folder
[06:36] <Audimage> illf8di don't need the installer, ubuntu is installed...i
[06:36] <ryctor> copy, that is
[06:37] <iLLf8d> you just mentioned reinstalling it tho thats why I'm asking for more info
[06:37] <the1> Toran: X11 forwarding to movie maker running on IRIX? If you can convert to DV, use kino
[06:37] <jvai> yes, zerodni, i added the sambe client, but i saw the open 139 port
[06:37] <jvai> so i uninstalled samba
[06:37] <drcode> hi all
[06:37] <ryctor> if you open the script that is what it does
[06:37] <Aeo> thanks ryctor, I'll figure that out
[06:37] <Audimage> i'd like to use my second partition to store data when i reformat
[06:37] <christopher2> if I install php from source, would I be able to run the debian-only "a2enmod" ?
[06:37] <sethk> dyclops, ok,  you might be able to do it then without booting the live cd
[06:37] <drcode> any one using skype?
[06:37] <zerodni> jvai, you souldnt need to just make sure you do like smb://your windows login name @thecompter/sharename
[06:37] <the1> Toran: cinelerra if you have a powerful machine
[06:37] <sethk> dyclops, try from your prompt:    fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sda2
[06:37] <fishy> sethk: Ok, I got my files. Now, is there any way to get rid of GRUB, just bypass it and boot directly into Windows?
[06:37] <sethk> drcode, I use it occasionally
[06:37] <jvai> ooo
[06:38] <zerodni> i can do this with just smbfs installed but i mount my shares but if you have ubutnu you sould be good
[06:38] <sethk> fishy, you can put the windows boot loader back on the mbr
[06:38] <aliendream23> sethk, what exactly should I see when I use the route command
[06:38] <Toran> would an amd64 3200+ be good enough, the1 ?
[06:38] <sethk> fishy, from the windows recovery console, or by booting a windows cd that gives you a prompt
[06:38] <drcode> it also server?
[06:38] <Audimage> illf8d, do you understand?
[06:38] <dyclops> sethk, I mounted my home dir manually, I can't seem to unmount it before i run fsck
[06:38] <jvai> i tried today with the "connet to server" in "places" but i couldnt open it
[06:38] <sethk> aliendream23, a bunch of lines telling you where things are to be sent.  one line should have a destination of <IP_ADDRESS>.  that's the default route.
[06:38] <iLLf8d> Audimage, somewhat yes because you don't completely understand
[06:38] <jvai> i tried w/ ssh
[06:38] <sethk> aliendream23, if you don't have a default route, that's your problem.
[06:39] <slavik> is there any reason why I wouldn't be able to see windows shares on the network with the default samba config?
[06:39] <jvai> thru port 22
[06:39] <iLLf8d> Audimage, you should have at least 2 partitions already (minimum)
[06:39] <subpar> irrelevant, but thank you ubuntu, I am now a complete linux convert :) I'm about to get rid of windows as we speak :)
[06:39] <aliendream23> ok, hang on, comps are in different ends of the house
[06:39] <iLLf8d> and this new second partition you're calling it will at least be your 3rd or more
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> subpar, sweet
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu is very much a breath of fresh air in a stale monoculture cesspool
[06:40] <iLLf8d> Audimage: if its not being used by ubuntu ie doesn't show up when you type the command mount in terminal
[06:40] <the1> Toran: I think they recomend at least dual SMP, and a few gigs of RAM...you could try it
[06:40] <subpar> adieu, it's time for me to do some reformattin' :)
[06:40] <zerodni> jvai,  that will work too if you can use fish if you have knoqueror
[06:40] <Audimage> illf8d, I have 2 partitions on my HDD, one of them ubuntu is installed on (i am using it now) and the second one i want to use as data storage, i need to mount the second partition so i can add data to it for storage
[06:40] <jvai> i want to make aq ssh server from feathr linux, so when i take this box on the cruise, i can ssh t oit.. but i havent figured it out
[06:40] <jvai> oo i'm on gtnome zerodni
[06:40] <iLLf8d> Audimage, ok I gotcha you have 2 partitions on it (and if you're planning on adding a 3rd you can)
[06:41] <fishy> sethk: What's the Windows boot loader, and where do I find the mbr?
[06:41] <iLLf8d> Audimage swap is one partition and the / will be the other unless you made more
[06:41] <zerodni> jvai, im not sure is fish is in gnome but you can try to mount them using the sshfs  package
[06:41] <Audimage> illf8d, i don't have a swap partition
[06:41] <jvai> ok
[06:41] <iLLf8d> sure you do you just don't know it
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, the mbr is the first sector of your hard drive
[06:42] <the1> Toran: you want to edit in DV...so convert your avi
[06:42] <Audimage> that might be true
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, the windows boot loader is the thing windows installs onto your hard drive to boot windows
[06:42] <Audimage> but it looks like 2 partitions to me
[06:42] <fishy> sethk: Would it have a file like "Dellboot.exe" in it?
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, no
[06:42] <iLLf8d> uhm anyone know wtf the root password is in this so I can use fdisk
[06:42] <Toran> the1: How would I go about doing that?
[06:42] <fishy> sethk: Well, that's the first sector of my drive.
[06:42] <sethk> fishy, dellboot.exe might do the same thing, but of course I have no idea.
[06:43] <the1> iLLf8d:sudo passwd root and set it yourself
[06:43] <strav> anyone familiar with vmware server? (I already posted on #vmware, everyone is sleepin) The prog dosen't seem to recognize any bootable disk... (I'm trying to run windows xp as a guest, which is located on the first partition of my master drive)
[06:43] <dyclops> sethk: where are the boot logs kept - so i can show you exactly what the problem is...
[06:43] <Audimage> illf8d, it is random unless you set it
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: It has a lot of .mdm and .lst and files starting with dell
[06:43] <sethk> fishy, the first sector of your drive has 512 characters.  it cannot be 12 characters long.
[06:43] <sethk> fishy, no, no, that's your directory.  that has nothing to do with what we are talking about
[06:43] <aliendream23> sethk, is it supposed to read in collumns or rows when I use the route command?
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: I'm not sure where to find it, then. Is it mountable?
[06:43] <sethk> aliendream23, who knows?
[06:43] <fishy> sethk: How would I modify it?
[06:43] <iLLf8d> Audimage, do this sudo fdisk /dev/hda then hit p and then q to exit (don't tell it to save)
[06:43] <aliendream23> it is a wee bit confusing
[06:44] <aliendream23> ok, under destination = <IP_ADDRESS> and under that it sais default. under gateway = *, under that is router. genmask = <IP_ADDRESS>, under that <IP_ADDRESS>. under flags = U under that UG.
[06:44] <Audimage> I am still not clear on what i should do with my second partition, what file system should i format it as, and where should i mount it?
[06:44] <iLLf8d> Audimage: then you'll see what you really have
[06:44] <the1> Toran: use ffmpeg
[06:44] <Toran> wait, kino seems to be able to import avis
[06:44] <sethk> fishy, you boot a recovery cd.  on that cd you'll have a program, fdisk.  you run at your c:\ prompt:     fdisk/mbr
[06:44] <Toran> It said "would you like to import this file? it isn't DV" when I tried to open it
[06:44] <iLLf8d> Audimage: don't play around in that util other then that cause you can nuke it all unless you know what you're doing
[06:44] <sethk> fishy, you can download a bootable cd (or floppy) with the program from the 'net.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda> well said iLLf8d
[06:45] <iLLf8d> thanks I guess =P
[06:45] <the1> Toran:could you open it?
[06:45] <Audimage> i have 2 partitions, hda1 and hda2
[06:45] <Toran> the1: yep
[06:45] <Audimage> hda1 has ubuntu on it
[06:45] <aliendream23> it looks like it reads in collumns, the first being destination - <IP_ADDRESS> - default
[06:45] <Audimage> hda2 i am wanting to use for storage
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, you should have just used one partition
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, make it ext3
[06:45] <sethk> Audimage, hda2 is empty?
[06:45] <SpaceFrog> What do I do with a .sh.gz file?
[06:46] <the1> Toran: sweet, I've had issues in the past with kino's import function working right
[06:46] <SpaceFrog> I want to install it
[06:46] <iLLf8d> wow so you have no swap from that command thats wierd
[06:46] <Audimage> yes
[06:46] <dyclops> can someone tell me where the boot logs are kept?
[06:46] <Toran> I have loads of codecs and mplayer installed
[06:46] <Toran> that may have helped
[06:46] <dyclops> /var/log..??
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, sorry, run it this way:     route -n
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, your name resolution isn't working either.
[06:46] <Toran> it seemed to use mplayer (in the console I saw mplayer-like output)
[06:46] <Toran> mencoder, rather
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, that sounds like you do have the correct default route
[06:46] <Toran> part of the same project, though
[06:46] <Audimage> sethk i WANT 2 partitions, i just need to know how to mount the second one
[06:46] <iLLf8d> Audimage if you have no swap you should reinstall and add it
[06:46] <the1> SpaceFron: gzip -d file.sh.gz; chmod +x file.sh;./file.sh
[06:46] <sethk> aliendream23, I mean _don't_
[06:47] <sethk> aliendream23, can you capture the output of     route -n        and put it on the paste web site?
[06:47] <Audimage> illf8d, why does it matter? what is the swap partition used for?
[06:47] <aliendream23> no
[06:47] <iLLf8d> Audimage: or you can create it and make it swap and turn it on
[06:47] <aliendream23> the comp it is on has no internet at all
[06:47] <fishy> sethk: Would doing "fdisk/mbr" screw with any of my files?
[06:47] <iLLf8d> Audimage: think of it as virtual memory
[06:47] <sethk> Audimage, swap is used to make it appear as if your machine has more memory than it really does
[06:47] <sethk> fishy, no
[06:47] <fishy> sethk: Would something like the "Ultimate Boot CD" work for that?
[06:47] <Audimage> illf8d, so i don't need it...
[06:47] <sethk> fishy, it certainly sounds likely.  yes.
[06:47] <Audimage> i've got a gig of memory
[06:48] <sethk> fishy, I haven't used it myself but I've been told that it is a good one that has that capability.
[06:48] <sethk> Audimage, odds are you don't need swap
[06:48] <iLLf8d> Audimage: ok if you say so I'll letya figure out the partitioning and mount thing then since you'll hit your 1G ceiling and then want to reinstall anyway
[06:48] <the1> I still use swap on my machines that have 4GB RAM
[06:48] <sethk> Audimage, and you can always add swap in a normal file system, rather than using a swap partition, should you have some unusual need for extra memory.
[06:48] <Audimage> thats what i htought it was for, and also why i didn't partition one
[06:48] <the1> it hardly ever gets used, but is good to have just in case
[06:49] <sethk> Audimage, it's much slower that way, but it's available
[06:49] <the1> my machines with 1gb use swap a lot!
[06:49] <sethk> Audimage, that's fine
[06:49] <iLLf8d> sethk: you serious? who doesn't fill up 1G of memory
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, people like me who build machines with only 32 meg of it.
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, depends on what you are doing.
[06:49] <iLLf8d> sethk: yeah but you're not running ubuntu with a gui then
[06:49] <jsilva> Hi, I have a problem with cpu temperature, when I connect a usb storage device, the temperature increment about 10 grades, and don't decrement. I have a laptop with amd sempron, anyone has a similar problem?
[06:49] <sethk> iLLf8d, no, not on those boxes.
[06:50] <Audimage> how do i check how much memory i am using?
[06:50] <sethk> iLLf8d, but this machine has two gigs of memory and it's never had to use swap.  I have some 512 meg machines that have never used their swap.
[06:50] <iLLf8d> I used to run x on a 486/75 lappy with 32M worked fine
[06:50] <iain> What does Ubuntu use to automount drives?
[06:50] <iLLf8d> but no ubuntu =P
[06:50] <unfknblvbl> if i wanted to make my own themes where could i start reading ?
[06:50] <sethk> Audimage, top is a program that will show you interesting things about resource usage on your box.
[06:50] <the1> Audimage:top will show used total memory and how much different processes use
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, as an example, my mail server has 512 meg of memory and never uses it's swap.  in fact it never even uses all 512 meg.
[06:51] <Audimage> where do i get it?
[06:51] <iLLf8d> Mem:        776060     431752     344308 <- my mem stats with ubuntu and xchat-gnome running and the canned defaults
[06:51] <iLLf8d> so we're looking at burning up 780M just with a chat client going
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, remember though that linux does not reclaim available memory unless it runs out.
[06:51] <sethk> iLLf8d, so that figure isn't real.
[06:52] <the1> jsilva: sempron supports Cool'n'Quiet
[06:52] <iLLf8d> sethk: lemme restart to see what the default with xchat eats
[06:52] <iLLf8d> sethk: wonder how much it'll be
[06:52] <jsilva> the1: I'll read about that :) mine is amd sempron k8
[06:52] <crimsun> unfknblvbl: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation
[06:52] <Emigre> Hello.  I'm trying to get Rythymbox to play mp3 files, but can't figure out how to do so. How can I do this?
[06:53] <sethk> iLLf8d, xchat is a bit of a pig, but a gig is a lot of memory.
[06:53] <aliendream23> sethk detination - <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>      gateway - <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>     genmask - <IP_ADDRESS> - <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:53] <the1> jsilva: you might be able to use cpufreq-selector to set a lower cpu speed
[06:53] <iLLf8d> yeah for linux its a good amount
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> cheders crimsun
[06:53] <unfknblvbl> s/sheers/cheder
[06:53] <arnducky> crimsun!
[06:53] <tinchio>  Hello everyone
[06:53] <ryctor> use top to see what is chewing all that ram
[06:53] <Audimage> how do i create a swap partition?
[06:53] <the1> on my Athlon-m I do cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies and then
[06:53] <sethk> aliendream23, ok, that looks correct.
[06:53] <Audimage> w/o reinstalling
[06:53] <the1> cpufreq-selector -f freq_I_wanna_use
[06:54] <sethk> aliendream23, now,  do this:      cat /etc/resolv.conf               that will print the IP address(es) of your name server(s).  try to ping them.
[06:54] <ryctor> i have 377MB and with xchat its only using200mb
[06:54] <tinchio> I have  a question related to Vmware, has anyone here used it?
[06:54] <jsilva> the1: well, when I type with "/proc/cpuinfo" get "stepping        : 0"
[06:54] <the1> jsilva: you can also set different frequency scaling modes
[06:54] <sethk> aliendream23, if the ping fails, try:         traceroute ###.###.###.###       (where ###.... is the ip of the name server)
[06:54] <arnducky> you solved a couple asound problems for me once-upon-a-time.  How're you doing, crimsun ?
[06:54] <iLLf8d> Audimage: how long did your install takeya? it'd probably be faster for you to reinstall then for us to explain it toya you'd need to use fdisk, mkswap and swapon
[06:55] <ryctor> I use vmware all the time
[06:55] <the1> jsilva: it should be supported by the cpu, perhaps it is not supported by your kernel?
[06:55] <dyclops> sethk, OK. I rand fsck as you suggested. No problems. I rebooted, still have the problem. During the boot process, checking all filesystems it complains about Bad /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2.....Yet, my root filesystem is sdb1, swap is sdb2 and home si sdb3. It then drops me to a shell as root where i can startx.
[06:55] <iLLf8d> Audimage: then at the same time you could easily add in your extra mountpoint/partition
[06:55] <dyclops> any ideas?
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, i installed at a friends house with broadband so i could get the kde environment, i can't do that here (dialup)
[06:55] <iLLf8d> all guified
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, reinstalling isn't really an option right now
[06:55] <iLLf8d> oh no cd?
[06:55] <iLLf8d> hrm
[06:55] <iLLf8d> ok
[06:55] <jsilva> the1: I have a precompilated ubuntu kernell 2.6.15-27-k7
[06:55] <iLLf8d> open a term
[06:55] <Audimage> illf8d, i have a cd for ubuntu, but installed kubuntu too
[06:56] <Audimage> and i don't have a cd for it
[06:56] <the1> jsilva: I have the powernowd package installed, it might contain a necessary kenel module
[06:56] <tinchio> ryctor,  i actually have it running but now i have one issue
[06:56] <ryctor> ?
[06:56] <iLLf8d> then do sudo fdisk /dev/hda (then after it starts hit p and then q w/out doing anything else atm) and paste it to a query window for me please (/query iLLf8d)
[06:56] <Audimage> illf8d: open
[06:57] <dyclops> It appears during boot, my system is trying to axs my windows drive and mount it rather then my /home
[06:57] <dyclops> I don't know what has happened/gone wrong !!!
[06:57] <aliendream23> sethk, that file is empty
[06:57] <tinchio> ryctor,  today i updated the kernel to <IP_ADDRESS> and when i try to run it i says that it must be reconfigured, ok i tried to do it but in one of the steps i asks me
[06:57] <tinchio> ryctor,  "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[06:57] <tinchio> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[06:57] <tinchio> The directory of kernel headers (version <IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1) does not match your
[06:57] <tinchio> running kernel (version 2.6.15-27-k7).  Even if the module were to compile
[06:57] <tinchio> successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.
[06:57] <tinchio> "
[06:57] <Audimage> illf8d, i am posting it to you, so idon't spam the window
[06:58] <jsilva> the1: I have it installed, but it doesn't let me load it "# modprobe powernow-k8 FATAL: Error inserting powernow_k8 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko): No such device
[06:58] <jbu> hi all, i just downloaded a theme but it has no readme or install-readme, so i dont know how to install it.  I went to preferences>themes to try to install it but i don't know which file to select to install it, can someone help?
[06:58] <jbu> desktop theme*
[06:58] <jsilva> the1: is k7 kernel the problem?
[06:58] <killown> eh o irmau do killown onde consigo legendas
[06:58] <killown> dos filmes to com filme sem legenda
[06:58] <ryctor> remember that you compiled the module with the old kernel, its asking for the linux-headers files of the new one, apt-get install linux-headers-kernel-version
[06:59] <iLLf8d> hrm were do ctcp versions messages show in this xchat-gnome client?
[06:59] <dyclops> Anyone know what is wrong?
[06:59] <the1> jsilva: I have a k7 kernel and powernowd cpu scaling works for me
[06:59] <brian98> tgelter: Still here?
[06:59] <killown> where have legend these move
[06:59] <iLLf8d> Audimage: what are you on that you're not sending a version reply?
[07:00] <sethk> dyclops, did your /etc/fstab file become corrupted?
[07:00] <tinchio> ryctor,  i have already downloaded them where are them supposed to be located?
[07:00] <jbu> hi all, i just downloaded a theme but it has no readme or install-readme, so i dont know how to install it. I went to preferences>themes to try to install it but i don't know which file to select to install it, can someone help?
[07:00] <iLLf8d> sethk: just testing to see if that was working
[07:00] <the1> hope this isn't too much flood
[07:00] <the1> $ modprobe -l|grep power
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/input/powermate.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_powersave.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_poweroff.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k8.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k7.ko
[07:00] <the1> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-k7/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/powernow-k6.ko
[07:00] <Audimage> i am using gaim
[07:00] <iLLf8d> sethk: thanks for the meminfo before I didn't realize that it didn't reclaim it till needed
[07:00] <zerodni> dyclops, make sure that you /home is pointing to the corect /dev/hd* in your /etc/fstab
[07:00] <iLLf8d> ah
[07:00] <ryctor> /usr/src/and rename the file to linux
[07:00] <iLLf8d> ok lemme get on gaim
[07:00] <aliendream23> what do I do if /etc/resolv.conf is empty?
[07:00] <Emigre> Nevermind, fixed.
[07:01] <jsilva> the1: doesnt work for me. all work realy fine but when I connect usb storage devices, only storage type, the temperature increment a lot
[07:01] <tinchio> ryctor, ok i'll try thanks
[07:01] <fishy> Anyone here familiar with FreeDOS?
[07:01] <ryctor> as in the .zip file now located in /usr/src with the name linux-headers-version, unpackit and rename it
[07:01] <the1> jsilva: might just be bad design of your chipset/motherboard/usb controller
[07:01] <iLLf8d> Audimage: you using the aim, yahoo, msn etc... or which service?
[07:02] <the1> jsilva: hard to know if it is a software or hardware problem
[07:02] <ryctor> i am a freebsd freak
[07:02] <jvai> gn peepz
[07:02] <Audimage> GAIM, it is installed by default in ubuntu
[07:02] <iLLf8d> ryctor: good kinda freak to be =)
[07:02] <dyclops> reboot 2. See if this has fixed it.
[07:02] <dyclops> Cheers
[07:02] <iLLf8d> Audimage: ah so you haven't added an account to an im server? only to irc?
[07:02] <jsilva> the1: maybe, In the spanish mailing list, I knew a guy with the same mother board and usb hd and with the same problem
[07:03] <iLLf8d> Audimage: I don't see a private message window from you in irc or a paste from you in the private message window I opened back to you
[07:03] <Audimage> illf8d, i posted my account info to you
[07:03] <ryctor> its just that in Ubuntu, everything works out of the box, and I have spent too much time watching my display in countless lines of compiling hours
[07:04] <iLLf8d> Audimage: sorry dunno what you mean by posted?
[07:04] <Audimage> illf8d, i posted it to you in a prv chat window
[07:04] <jsilva> the1: How can I know what program/daemon init when I connect a storage device? and what is the different between usb storage devices and others like usb mouse, with mice I haven't that problem
[07:04] <iLLf8d> oh it never showed up on my end
[07:04] <Audimage> typed it to you
[07:04] <aliendream23> sethk, the file you told me to open is totally empty
[07:04] <Audimage> ok, try again...
[07:04] <sethk> jsilva, really smells like a hardware problem to me as well.
[07:04] <sethk> aliendream23, /etc/resolv.conf is empty?
[07:04] <aliendream23> yep, a blank page
[07:04] <Audimage> see it then illf8d?
[07:05] <sethk> aliendream23, in that case you will not be able to resolve any names, so it would appear that you can't get to the 'net.
[07:05] <the1> jsilva: lsof will show you who is accessing the /dev file for your drive
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: no don't think so
[07:05] <jsilva> sethk: maybe the kernel doesnt have full support with this motherboard :(
[07:05] <sethk> aliendream23, to be 100% sure,   do           ls -l /etc/resolv.conf          make sure the size is 0
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: do this command in gaim for me willya (dunno if it'll work or not)
[07:05] <sethk> jsilva, yes, or there are kernel build options set incorrectly.
[07:05] <iLLf8d> Audimage: /query iLLf8d
[07:05] <iLLf8d> then hit return
[07:05] <aliendream23> ok, I will, but I browsed to it, and it reads 0, brb
[07:05] <Audimage> send me you're msn account then, and i'll add you
[07:06] <iLLf8d> I don't have one
[07:06] <iLLf8d> heh
[07:06] <sethk> aliendream23, you are probably correct, but it doesn't hurt to doublecheck.
[07:06] <iLLf8d> I don't run windows
[07:06] <jsilva> the1: thanks, that is a good idea, maybe that program/daemon keep running after umount usb storage devices
[07:06] <iLLf8d> osx, freebsd, debian, ubuntu, openbsd
[07:06] <iLLf8d> i'm winders free
[07:06] <ISOLATEDViRuS> *claps*
[07:06] <dyclops> Thank you all. It appears my fstab was corrupted when I changed some disks. Thus it was looking for things during boot that were not there
[07:06] <the1> *windoze free?
[07:06] <dyclops> Thanks
[07:07] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ive been winders free for 2 weeks now.
[07:07] <sethk> iLLf8d, what's wrong with netbsd?    :)
[07:07] <SpaceFrog> how do i run .sh files?
[07:07] <iLLf8d> yeah for a few years now
[07:07] <arnducky> iLLf8d, I wish I was <sigh>
[07:07] <iLLf8d> sethk: too many oses too little time
[07:07] <the1> ./file.sh
[07:07] <arnducky> (I had a relapse)
[07:07] <jsilva> sethk: maybe, but I get lost changing the kernel options and recompiling it :(
[07:07] <aliendream23> I believe it just told me it is 0
[07:07] <Audimage> illf8d, i did it again
[07:07] <dyclops> SpaceFrog, chmod +x file.sh
[07:07] <ryctor> actually i run vmware with xp for a couple of remote monitoring programs for DVR's
[07:07] <the1> SpaceFrog: if it's permissions are set to executable
[07:07] <sethk> SpaceFrog, well, there is no such thing as a .sh file.  however, many people name shell scripts with .sh.   you can either   chmod +x    the file and then run it by name, or do    sh filename
[07:07] <aliendream23> how do I fix that??
[07:07] <dyclops> ./file.sh
[07:07] <iLLf8d> Audimage: I dunno what gaims doing it must not be using the irc server to send the pm
[07:07] <dyclops> or sh file.sh
[07:08] <iLLf8d> Audimage: install xchat-gnome and join freenode #ubuntu
[07:08] <the1> ya...sh file.sh is sometimes necessary
[07:08] <donald_> hello can any one help me after adding the kde desktop my root password is not m
[07:08] <iLLf8d> its a better irc client anywa
[07:08] <iLLf8d> y
[07:08] <sethk> aliendream23, do you know your DNS server IPs?
[07:08] <the1> I think the quake installer fails if you just do ./sh on ubuntu
[07:08] <Audimage> gimme a sec
[07:08] <the1> *quake3
[07:08] <aliendream23> h'mmm hang on
[07:08] <donald_> working
[07:08] <sethk> aliendream23, if you are running the gui, then network-admin has a tab to set them.  otherwise you can edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23, as root, of course.
[07:09] <aliendream23> seth, what should the file look like?
[07:09] <ryctor> man sudo
[07:09] <aliendream23> wait
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23, for each name server, you have a line:
[07:09] <sethk> aliendream23,    nameserver ###.###.###.###
[07:10] <iLLf8d> sethk: any way to get sudo to cache the password once a session like ssh-agent/keychains kinda thing?
[07:10] <sethk> optionally you can have a search line, but don't worry about that for now.
[07:10] <sethk> iLLf8d, no, sudo is a joke
[07:10] <iLLf8d> yeah I don't like it much mainly cause I'm lazy
[07:11] <aliendream23> ok, I should be able to just use the same settings as on this comp, right???
[07:11] <aliendream23> same network
[07:11] <sethk> aliendream23, yes
[07:11] <aliendream23> COOOOOL
[07:11] <aliendream23> lemme try
[07:11] <sethk> aliendream23, k
[07:12] <iLLf8d> this xchat versions oogie
[07:12] <iLLf8d> blarg
[07:12] <Audimage> gaim rocks
[07:13] <iLLf8d> its ok when it works
[07:13] <iLLf8d> very im like
[07:14] <Audimage> still dling xchat
[07:14] <iLLf8d> gotcha
[07:14] <Audimage> shouldn't be much longer
[07:14] <brian98> everyone: freenx !! What an application :)
[07:14] <brian98> WOW
[07:15] <brian98> it's like vnc on steroids
[07:15] <brian98> :)
[07:15] <iLLf8d> not familiar with it
[07:16] <brian98> http://www.nomachine.com/
[07:16] <aliendream23> sethk, I would like to buy you a beer
[07:16] <mister_roboto> iLLf8d: why not just leave a root shell open?
[07:16] <tinchio> ryctor, it worked, thanks a lot ;)
[07:16] <aliendream23> I found a thread on ubuntu forums, two other chaps with the same problem, going to go post this solution and be happy. THANK YOU
[07:17] <iLLf8d> mister_roboto: you mean rather then using sudo?
[07:17] <sethk> aliendream23, np
[07:17] <audimage_> get it that time illf8d?
[07:17] <sethk> at least I fixed one problem tonight.
[07:17] <SpaceFrog> is there a way i can run as su in X ?
[07:17] <mister_roboto> iLLf8d: yes, if you are going to be doing a lot of root stuff, just leave a window open  "sudo -i" and keep using it
[07:17] <sethk> SpaceFrog, sure
[07:17] <sethk> SpaceFrog, set the root password.  nothing in ubuntu w.r.t. root is different from any other linux distro.
[07:18] <SpaceFrog> ah, thanks
[07:18] <audimage_> illf8d, did you get my message?
[07:18] <iLLf8d> nope unless I can't find it in this new xchat client its listing my channels and queries to the left if I'm reading it right (then I didn't get it)
[07:18] <audimage_> i just installed it
[07:19] <iLLf8d> mister_roboto: dunno always had root before never bothered much with sudo
[07:19] <iLLf8d> well a root I could log into I mean
[07:20] <SpaceFrog> How do i copy everything in a directory? cp *.* /destination/*.* ?
[07:20] <iLLf8d> audimage_ you're still not returning a version response whatya really running?
[07:20] <the1> no need for *.* at your destination
[07:21] <audimage_> i swear, i just typed in...
[07:21] <audimage_> sudo apt-get install xchat
[07:21] <the1> and you need cp -r if you want to recursively copy subdirectories
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, use   cp -av *
[07:21] <audimage_> and this is what im using
[07:21] <iLLf8d> -iLLf8d- VERSION xchat-gnome 0.11 Linux 2.6.15-27-386 [i686]  <- your version response default should look like this
[07:21] <audimage_> want me to send a damn screenshot?
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, remember, *.* is incorrect windows garbage
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, *.* does _not_ match, for example, the file name xyz
[07:21] <audimage_> help>about gives me this Linux 2.6.15-27-386 [i686/2.67GHz]
[07:21] <audimage_> Charset: UTF-8 Renderer: Pango
[07:21] <audimage_> Compiled: Aug 30 2006
[07:21] <sethk> SpaceFrog, * means everything.  a unix file can by xyz, or xyz.abc,  or abc.def.xyz, etc.
[07:22] <audimage_> xchat 2.6.6
[07:22] <iLLf8d> hrm
[07:22] <Taim> for eft install cd, anybody know what the default pw is?
[07:22] <iLLf8d> maybe its this client I'm running then
[07:22] <iLLf8d> one sec lemme change it
[07:23] <the1> are there user passwords?
[07:23] <the1> on the install cds?
[07:23] <Taim> Must be.
[07:23] <sethk> the1, I don't believe so, only user names
[07:23] <Taim> root w/ blank password doesn't work.
[07:23] <JimmiJones> ping DBO any thoughts?
[07:23] <sethk> the1, during the install you set user passwords, at least for one user.
[07:23] <the1> Taim: sudo passwd root to set root's password
[07:24] <sethk> the1, you can set the passwords later, or change any password you want, since security is completely broken
[07:24] <DBO> JimmiJones, im working right now unfortunately
[07:24] <JimmiJones> cool, b around tomorrow?
[07:24] <Taim> the1: I would if I could, but I am staring at a console w/ no logins.
[07:24] <iLLf8d> ib I don't have it available in my sources list yet I just installed ubuntu before I joined here gotta find the right sources so I can install the non gnomish version of xchat
[07:24] <DBO> JimmiJones, join #ubuntu-xgl
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, have you just run an install?
[07:24] <sethk> Taim, you'll have to boot the live cd, mount the root partition somewhere, do a chroot, then set passwords
[07:24] <audimage_> illf8d, do you have msn?
[07:24] <mister_roboto> sethk: what do you mean security is totally broken?
[07:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell Taim about root
[07:24] <Taim> I booted the CD.
[07:25] <iLLf8d> nope only im client I have is yahoo iirc
[07:25] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: X is broke as I need ati or fglrx driver
[07:25] <iLLf8d> thats just cause I use their webmail for my spam accounts ie forums subscriptions etc...
[07:25] <audimage_> well, i guess we'll just have to talk here, so...how do i create a swap partition?
[07:25] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: so, I am booted back to a console which is asking for login.
[07:25] <sethk> mister_roboto, the nonsense with sudo and blank root password. replaces the traditional unix security model with something where the ordinary user can do everything.
[07:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, on the live cd? try ubuntu, but last i knew there was no pass
[07:26] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: That worked.  Thanks.
[07:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Taim, cool :)
[07:26] <iLLf8d> audimage_: you'll want to use fdisk to add in 2 partitions the one you want to use as swap, then the one you want to use as an archive partition
[07:26] <Taim> Kamping_Kaiser: I only knew of root.
[07:26] <mister_roboto> sethk: that's just nonsense. it's no weaker than a user knowing root password and using "su -c" instead of sudo.
[07:26] <iLLf8d> audimage_: you gotta make sure you do it right or you can hose everything on the machine
[07:27] <sethk> mister_roboto, of course it is, but people get upset if we discuss it here.
[07:27] <mister_roboto> sethk: an ordinary user can't do everything if they aren't in admin group or otherwise configured in sudoers
[07:27] <iLLf8d> when you run the fdisk /dev/hda command and hit p is it showing you freespace too? if not you'l lhave to destroy the archive partition you may have created then add in the swap then the archive for the remaining space
[07:28] <mister_roboto> sethk: i say it's not. please go ahead and say why you thinik it is. who cares if someone gets upset?
[07:28] <sethk> mister_roboto, if there is no root password, then at least one  ordinary user _must_ be able to do everything.  out the window goes that model.
[07:28] <audimage_> illf8d, how do i remove it, and how do i create new partitions
[07:28] <mister_roboto> sethk: that's silly. ordinarily that user is "root", which is exactly the same
[07:28] <Flannel> sethk: no, one ordinary user must not.  They require a password and priveledge escilation to do 'everything'
[07:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> mister_roboto, you could discuss it in -offtopic
[07:28] <iLLf8d> audimage_: is ubuntu the only thing on that machine atm?
[07:29] <quadriko> what does modified source mean?
[07:29] <audimage_> on this machine, yes
[07:29] <mister_roboto> Kamping_Kaiser: i guess it is off topic
[07:29] <iLLf8d> ok once in fdisk iirc it d to delete a partition
[07:29] <iLLf8d> it'll prompt you for its number
[07:29] <iLLf8d> as output from the p command
[07:29] <JoseStefan> sethk, it's not safe to be root all the time, and it's not safe to share a common root account between multiple admins
[07:29] <sethk> Flannel, so what?
[07:29] <Flannel> mister_roboto: only 'offtopic' becuase this is a support related channel only, sethk, if you'd be so kind as to join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> mister_roboto, yeh, i just didnt want to imideately jump on you people.
[07:29] <sethk> JoseStefan, how does using sudo change _any_ of that?
[07:30] <audimage_> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[07:30] <audimage_> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[07:30] <audimage_> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:30] <audimage_>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:30] <audimage_> /dev/hda1               1        3916    31455238+  83  Linux
[07:30] <audimage_> /dev/hda2            3917        9729    46692922+  83  Linux
[07:30] <Flannel> audimage_: don't paste here
[07:30] <JoseStefan> sethk, with sudo, you are not root all the time, and there is no password sharing
[07:30] <iLLf8d> you guys have a paste url for him?
[07:30] <audimage_> flannel: we've been having trouble communicating ouside of here, we tried it
[07:30] <sethk> JoseStefan, so, you have sudo -i disabled?
[07:30] <iLLf8d> query windows aren't working with him
[07:30] <audimage_> or with you
[07:31] <lastnode> !paste
[07:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> sethk, and JoseStefan , could you please take this to -offtopic
[07:31] <JoseStefan> sethk, my point of view of sudo all the time is: that if a program has a security related bug, it wont leak root access
[07:31] <Flannel> audimage_: you can't sent queries because you're not registered/identified
[07:31] <iLLf8d> ah
[07:31] <JoseStefan> err, root
[07:31] <iLLf8d> that splains it
[07:31] <JoseStefan> sethk, sudo avoids leaking root priv, when programs have security holes
[07:31] <audimage_> flannel: how do i register/id
[07:31] <Flannel> JoseStefan: #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:32] <iLLf8d> audimage_: pick a nickname using /nick <nickname of your choice>
[07:32] <Flannel> audimage_: /msg nickserv help register
[07:32] <sethk> brb
[07:32] <iLLf8d> then type /msg nickserv register <some password of your choice>
[07:32] <iLLf8d> then type /msg nickserv identify <the password you chose>
[07:34] <iLLf8d> guess I lostem heh
[07:34] <audimage_> illf8d, can you see my messages now?
[07:35] <iLLf8d> yup
[07:35] <iLLf8d> chat in there
[07:38] <SpaceFrog> hey guys. I'm trying to get a game called Savage (native Linux game) running in Ubuntu, but I'm not sure what I'm doing.
[07:39] <SpaceFrog> Has anyone ever played it?
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> There's one step in the instructions.."After following the above steps place the libs directory within your savage folder into your linux libary directory path. Consult your distro's documentation for your libary directory path.".
[07:40] <SpaceFrog> that's just /lib/. right?
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> SpaceFrog, depends what the lib is
[07:41] <SpaceFrog> oh, okay.
[07:41] <mainer> SpaceFrog: i'd say /usr/lib
[07:42] <SpaceFrog> oh, that makes sense. thanks i'll try that :)
[07:42] <ArrenLex> On that note, how DO you see your library path?
[07:42] <mainer> or perhaps /usr/local/lib it depends on the files really
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> or /var/lib
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> haha, oh man. a few possibilities
[07:43] <mainer> ArrenLex: $PATH
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats only for bins though
[07:43] <ArrenLex> That's the executable path.
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> The files  are things like libSDL, libfreetype.so, etc.
[07:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> echo $env and $environment dont seem to work :|
[07:43] <SpaceFrog> Just to name some of the ones in the directory
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Kaiser: I think you're looking for the command 'env'.
[07:44] <ArrenLex> Or 'set'.
[07:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, env, bingo, thanks mate :)
[07:44] <mainer> shows system path statement,which is set by /etc/environment i believe
[07:45] <dfgas> this vmware player is friggin sweet
[07:45] <quadriko> what exactly is vmware player?
[07:45] <ferronrsmith> want to install .deb on a computer without net??
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Yeah. I love vmware's idea of a "player". Everyone should have that definition.
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, dapper?
[07:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> double click ;)
[07:45] <dfgas> i have on my ubuntu server windows xp pro with remsktops going, and also debian 3.1 with perfect debian setup with ispconf running
[07:46] <Momal> hmm seemed updating didnt' fix my prob... the error X shows after I reboot is | API mismatch Nvidia kernel module version 1.0-7174 but X module has version 1.0-8774 make sure they both have the same version | I rerun the nvidia driver installer and X starts up. then next time I reboot it doesn't start again. anyone have any ideas??
[07:46] <zad> mornin
[07:46] <zad> anyone able to help please
[07:46] <Flannel> !ask
[07:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:46] <ferronrsmith> want to install a interpreter should i download the dependency
[07:46] <zad> i had a power cut and get errors on boot
[07:47] <zad> tried live dvd to run fsck
[07:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, yes
[07:47] <zad> but dont think it sees my sata drive which is the one that is broke
[07:47] <sethk> zad, why do you think it doesn't see it?
[07:47] <zad> any way of getting round i
[07:47] <ryctor> df -h
[07:47] <zad> because there is no driver for it
[07:47] <ferronrsmith> how do you know which dependency is already installed???
[07:47] <sethk> Momal, after the reboot, do lsmod, see if the nvidia kernel module is loaded
[07:49] <zad> just tried knoppix and that just hangs now at creating fstab....done
[07:49] <zad> doesnt get any further
[07:50] <zad> been trying all night :S
[07:50] <ferronrsmith> how do i know which dependecy is already installed??
[07:50] <ferronrsmith> don;t want to download them twice!!!
[07:51] <sethk> zad, "because there is no driver for it" is your _interpretation_.  what do you _see_?
[07:51] <Flannel> ferronrsmith: is it a package in the repositories?
[07:51] <Momal> sethk: lsmod shows: nvidia 3921884 0
[07:51] <zad> just my ide drive
[07:51] <sethk> Momal, so much for that theory.
[07:51] <zad> when i run disk util it hangs
[07:51] <Momal> lol
[07:52] <jazzrocker> ferryou should just install the interpreter.
[07:52] <sethk> zad, you are still not answering my question.  do you mean that the device /dev/sda does not exist?
[07:52] <Momal> what i dont' get is if i run the installer it runs X again till i reboot the computer then it doesn't laod again :S
[07:52] <jazzrocker> !xgl
[07:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:52] <zad> sethk yes its there
[07:53] <sethk> Momal, possibly it doesn't properly update xorg.conf
[07:53] <zad> whne i run fsck on it it says superblock error run e2fsck
[07:53] <zad> with block number
[07:53] <jazzrocker> what exactly are the benefits/features provided by XGL?
[07:53] <sethk> Momal, does the timestamp on xorg.conf change when you run the config?
[07:53] <zad> so i do that and it doesnt do anything
[07:53] <jazzrocker> just transparency? or does it theoretically make X run faster on native hardware?
[07:53] <sethk> zad, if it does that, the driver is most certainly loaded.
[07:53] <sontek> Is there are a reason the xlib backend wouldn't be compiled into compile when I install it aptitude
[07:53] <Flannel> jazzrocker: #ubuntu-xgl, but no, it's just eyecandy
[07:53] <jazzrocker> ahhh, ok
[07:54] <BlockNick> -)
[07:54] <jazzrocker> i sorta thought so but when i saw "OpenGL" it made me wonder if there was a speed increase. that's cool though
[07:54] <sethk> zad, are you sure it is running the correct version of fsck?  try running fsck.ext3 -f   (assuming the file system is type ext3)
[07:54] <zad> ahhh
[07:54] <BlockNick> sethk is Mark shuttleworth.
[07:55] <zad> hmm sec will get rid of knoppix
[07:55] <sethk> BlockNick, what is mark shuttleworth?
[07:55] <BlockNick> you are.
[07:56] <jazzrocker> i love it when people who are not me tell me things about me that I didn't know and that are also untrue
[07:56] <ArrenLex> I love... chocolate.
[07:56] <BlockNick> I love smokes.
[07:56] <zad> i love my mrs
[07:56] <z3r0> parawho watches bleach here?
[07:56] <zad> hmm no i dont ...expands chest
[07:57] <z3r0> hmmm weed wud be nice rite now
[07:57] <sethk> BlockNick, no
[07:57] <zad> think that was my mistake last night :P
[07:58] <ArrenLex> I heard of this thing called Ubuntu. I think it's some kind of pencil. What do you guys think about it?
[07:58] <Skarr> Hey hey hey, #ubuntu
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Actually we're #whatwelike temporarily.
[07:59] <jazzrocker> i like pens better
[07:59] <ArrenLex> I'd like to see a pen write in ZERO GRAVITY.
[07:59] <ArrenLex> *pencil own power*
[07:59] <Locke> hey how do i install the latest SDL without synaptic
[07:59] <Locke> my synaptic is broke
[07:59] <Locke> or how do i fix synaptic
[07:59] <jazzrocker> Locke, uhhh yeah, fix synaptic
[07:59] <jazzrocker> Locke, define "broke" ?
[07:59] <Skarr> How long does it take when you are installing ubuntu for it to partition 30 gigabytes?
[08:00] <Madpilot> Locke, did you break your sources.list? That seems to be the most common cause of 'Synaptic is broken'...
[08:00] <ArrenLex> To resize partitions? Or make a new partition on a blank drive?
[08:00] <alex222> did anyone get SuperKaramba working under gnome
[08:00] <ArrenLex> If you're nondestructively resizing a partition it will take a while.
[08:00] <mainer> Locke: in terminal sudo apt-get -f install
[08:00] <ArrenLex> If you're just overwriting useless space, about 5 seconds.
[08:00] <zad> sethk i still get same error couldnt find ext2 superblock:bad magic number
[08:00] <Skarr> ArrenLex: When you install ubuntu, it says 3 options : Use whole hard disk as a partition for it, or use a size. I want to use a 30 gigabyte one so it is making a new one.
[08:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: How many minutes ~ hours will that take
[08:01] <ArrenLex> To make a new, blank partition, five seconds.
[08:01] <jazzrocker> Skarr, try. it. and. see.
[08:01] <zad> although i told it fsck.ext3
[08:01] <ArrenLex> All it has to write is the partition header.
[08:01] <Skarr> Arrenlex: When I did it it was there for like an hour.
[08:01] <Skarr> (i'm booting from the live cd obviously)
[08:02] <Skarr> I'll try it again
[08:03] <Skarr> !rules
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[08:03] <Skarr> !ubuntu
[08:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:03] <ferronrsmith> have some problems with ubuntu..
[08:03] <ferronrsmith> Can i get help???
[08:03] <Momal> sethk: yup just checked then it does update... im getting the feeling when i reboot its loading an older module or some how replacing the new one with the old one.. where is the nvidia kernel module stored?
[08:03] <ArrenLex> !ask
[08:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:03] <BlockNick> !sexwithrandonhotchick
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexwithrandonhotchick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <ArrenLex> !stfu
[08:03] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel.  I wasn't expecting a rebuke.
[08:03] <Flannel> !botabuse
[08:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[08:04] <Skarr> !bot
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[08:04] <Skarr> !ubotuissexy
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about issexy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> stop abusing the bot
[08:04] <jazzrocker> i think BlockNick needs to be banned
[08:04] <ArrenLex> (00:04:55) ubuntu left the room <--- uh oh.
[08:05] <Skarr> lmao
[08:05] <zad> whats cmnd for listing sata diveces?
[08:05] <zad> devices even
 why?
[08:05] <ArrenLex> df will tell you what's mounted. "sudo fdisk -l" will list all your drives.
[08:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> zad, try 'ls /dev/sd*'
[08:06] <ferronrsmith> need help!!!!!!!
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Kamping, that just gives you all the available nodes.
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Ferron, what's your question?!
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ArrenLex, yeh.
[08:06] <zad> yeah it gave me loads
[08:06] <ferronrsmith> want to install dependecy and .deb
[08:06] <zad> how do i know if it sees my sata
[08:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ferronrsmith, aks a question, dont just sit asking for help
[08:06] <Toma-> im getting a nasty error when trying to use my mp4 player. its mounted and worked before but now im getting this: "[17353998.040000]  usb 1-1: device not accepting address 9, error -110"
[08:06] <ArrenLex> Ferron, a .deb that's not available in the repositories?
[08:07] <Toma-> ive googled and no help found
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, unpluged and repluged?
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> have you updated the kernel recently?
[08:07] <ArrenLex> dpkg -i <your deb file> && apt-get -f install
[08:07] <ArrenLex> (@Ferron)
[08:07] <ferronrsmith> how do i check wat dependecy i already have so that i dont have to download it again
[08:07] <Skarr> is the newest ubuntu Linux(kernal version 2.2.14 or 2.4)?
[08:07] <Momal> !api mismatch
[08:07] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: all obvious options have been tried. even tried rmmod ehci
[08:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about api mismatch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> Skarr, 2.6
[08:07] <Momal> pfft
[08:07] <ArrenLex> Ferron, apt magically settles dependencies for you.
[08:07] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: yep. usual ubuntu updates
[08:07] <Skarr> Dang.
[08:08] <zad> Kamping_Kaiser how do isee what sata i have
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, try the kernel you had before
[08:08] <HabaKKuk> hi
[08:08] <BlockNick> Jazzrocker Can you please refrain from private msg'ing me. I dont like the rudeness of your claims and what you said to me was sick man.
[08:08] <Micer> does any of you use Xchat as an IRC client?
[08:08] <ferronrsmith> the computer doesn't have the net
[08:08] <Skarr> You think a program for 2.4 would work for 2.6?
[08:08] <sethk> zad, sorry, I was away for a bit.  what happened?
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Micer, yes
[08:08] <Skarr> Realtek '97 only has 2.4
[08:08] <ArrenLex> BlockNick can you please stop complaining about private messages in the public area?
[08:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> Skarr, maybe
[08:08] <HabaKKuk> ive got following quiestion, what would be better for server OS ? Debian stable or slackware ?
[08:08] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: and if that works?
[08:08] <sethk> Skarr, usually
[08:08] <Skarr> it also has one under the linux/unix section that says public
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> HabaKKuk, wrong channel to ask
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> it will be ny first serv so im not sure
[08:09] <Madpilot> Micer, lots of us
[08:09] <vik> I want to but a 3d graphics card - which works better with linux: ATI or NVidia?
[08:09] <Psychobudgie> Micer,  yes
[08:09] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: probably debian stable, but this isn't exactly the place to ask that
[08:09] <BlockNick> Nvidia
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> Kamping_Kaiser: at leas you could give me an advice if you want ;)
[08:09] <ArrenLex> vik: NVidia.
[08:09] <sethk> HabaKKuk, I prefer slackware, but it's just a personal preference, debian is fine also
[08:09] <BlockNick> Debian hates ubuntu?
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-, file a bug
[08:09] <Skarr> Nvidia > ati
[08:09] <Toma-> mmkay.
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> okay, thanks ppl
[08:09] <sethk> HabaKKuk, if you are already familiar with one or the other, than use that one
[08:09] <Momal> nvidia if you dont' get the problem i get >_<
[08:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> BlockNick, no
[08:09] <Skarr> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <ferronrsmith> ubuntu crash when using my nvidia, why???
[08:09] <Micer> ok great, can someone give me a hand then, I am not able to make it work with UBUNTU
[08:09] <HabaKKuk> well im using ubuntu now, so popably debau would be easyer
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Ferron: what error does it give you?
[08:10] <HabaKKuk> debian*
[08:10] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: you could always use ubuntu as well
[08:10] <vik> No-one has open source driver 3d cards?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> vik: Intel integrated does. Yay.
[08:10] <HabaKKuk> Flannel: know that but its better to lean other distros imho ;o)
[08:10] <ferronrsmith> fine lines running through the display or sometimes error logs
[08:10] <roaminggnome87> hello
[08:11] <ferronrsmith> stating that VGA crash error
[08:11] <Skarr> !vga
[08:11] <Flannel> HabaKKuk: shrug.  Its up to you, you'll need to get a lot more familiar with the configuration formats, for either of those
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Ferron, what driver are you trying to use?
[08:11] <iLLf8d> whew
[08:11] <BlockNick> !Smoke
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Smoke - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Would someone PLEASE kick BlockNick?!
[08:11] <ferronrsmith> NVIDIA MX400
[08:11] <Skarr> BlockNick: Thats getting annoying
[08:11] <ArrenLex> Ferron: driver.
[08:12] <BlockNick> I love you all~
[08:12] <Skarr> its not mutual.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Ferron: run cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> BlockNick, stop being silly or i'll ask some ops to stop you
[08:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> youve been asked nicely several times
[08:12] <BlockNick> ok
[08:12] <jazzrocker> BlockNick, and i'll ask them to do the same as well
[08:12] <ferronrsmith> thks
[08:12] <BlockNick> please dont feed the troll.
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Ferron: and paste the result here! xD
[08:12] <ArrenLex> I should have specified.
[08:13] <vik> Anyone have any success/comments regarding installing ubuntu on a usb hard disk?
[08:13] <BlockNick> I just sold my business for $7 million.
[08:13] <blanky> hey guys
[08:13] <blanky> I did sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:13] <Skarr> BlockNick: No one cares.
[08:13] <blanky> and then I keep trying sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart and various other things but it won't work
[08:13] <boitono> When ever I move a window I get some jagged effects that appear on the sides of the window, any suggestions as to where I might start looking for the source of this issue?
[08:13] <blanky> what must I do to commence the ssh daemon?
[08:14] <Momal> blocknick: go use that 7million dollars and buy your self a new brain one with intelligence
[08:14] <Skarr> Momal: I concur
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, what do you mean 'wont start'
[08:14] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, sorry for insufficient information, I mean, it keeps saying command not found
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> Momal, please, its a bit ot ;)
[08:14] <BlockNick> lanky, what do you mean 'wont start'
[08:14] <BlockNick> * gumpish has quit IRC
[08:14] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, sure ssh server installed?
[08:15] <Skarr> brb guys
[08:15] <blanky> when I tried to simply do sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start it said starting bsd ssh daemon ... [fail]
[08:15] <Skarr> ill post back with results on the partition
[08:15] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, pretty sure, I did sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:15] <SurfnKid> guys this keeps happeningg
[08:15] <lmosher> Anyone here have experience setting up lm sensors? I'm having a hard time on my laptop
[08:15] <SurfnKid> ctrl alt > or < on the right side of my keyboard stopped working
[08:15] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, I just tried 'which sshd', and it said /usr/sbin/sshd
[08:16] <ArrenLex> SurfnKid: in a console, type xev. Then press those keys so you can see the command line.  I'm having a hard time on my laptop...
[08:17] <SurfnKid> they keep changing ArrenLex
[08:17] <blanky> it's okay I can keep trying various things
[08:17] <roaminggnome87> There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon....any idea on how to fix this? I searched for threads on this but none of them helped.  Is it some kind of hostname problem?
[08:17] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, run 'restart' not 'start'
[08:18] <Kamping_Kaiser>  sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[08:18] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, yeah i tried that
[08:18] <blanky> i'll try again
[08:18] <SurfnKid> 37 and 64 on the left side of keyb, 109 and 113 on the right side of the keyb
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Are they working right now?
[08:19] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, x2mjokada@x2mjokada-desktop:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[08:19] <blanky> sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[08:19] <blanky> Kamping_Kaiser, but it's installed i just typed sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:19] <ArrenLex> blanky: /etc/init.d/ssh force-reload
[08:19] <blanky> it didn't install anything new
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> blanky, no d
[08:19] <blanky> okay thanks ArrenLex
[08:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sshd, just ssh
[08:19] <blanky> okay Kamping_Kaiser
[08:19] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:20] <audimage> what is the authenticate command for irc?
[08:20] <audimage> forgot
[08:20] <iLLf8d> /msg nickserv identify <yourpassword>
[08:20] <lmosher> My fan won't turn off on my laptop - just installed Ubuntu. What gives?
[08:21] <iLLf8d> lmosher: its really cool
[08:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it running hot?
[08:21] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:21] <lmosher> iLLf8d, Kamping_Kaiser: no I check /proc/acpid/thermal_zone and it's like 40C
[08:21] <iLLf8d> well there you go then
[08:21] <lmosher> but I looked in /proc/acpi/fan and there are no fans listed
[08:21] <iLLf8d> whats it suppsoed to be?
[08:22] <lmosher> my other laptops fan turns on at 60
[08:22] <lmosher> laptop cpus run a little hotter.
[08:22] <iLLf8d> yeah till you spill your soda in them
[08:22] <method|> i have a wierd problem. i copied some folders from my linux filesystem (reiserfs) over to my fat32 harddrive. The folders can be seen while im on linux, but if on windows I can't see them. What's the deal?
[08:22] <iLLf8d> then they run a bit stickier
[08:22] <iLLf8d> heh
[08:22] <iLLf8d> heh_
[08:23] <roaminggnome87>  There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon....any idea on how to fix this? I searched for threads on this but none of them helped.  Is it some kind of hostname problem?  Please tell me what additional information you may need.  If nobody can respond, I'll resort to the mailing list so as not to flood the channel.
[08:23] <mainer> audimage_:  the identify is capital letters or upper-case w.e. you prefer
[08:23] <iLLf8d> mainer: makes no difference
[08:23] <mainer> cool,they must have changed it
[08:24] <iLLf8d> mainer: no been like that since I've been here
[08:24] <iLLf8d> just looks like you need caps
[08:24] <isolatedvirus_> i cant get amarok to play .mp3 or .m4a, and ive installed the gstream restricted codec already <_<
[08:24] <mainer> hmm,i always read uc in nickserv help,but they've changed server software a few times also
[08:24] <blanky> guys
[08:24] <drminime05> I'm looking for drivers for an ATI R100 Radeon 7200 card, need to know where to get them
[08:24] <blanky> sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[08:25] <blanky> upgrades the dist right?
[08:25] <blanky> with the new updates
[08:25] <iLLf8d> mainer: yeah the docs must be wrong
[08:25] <blanky> I don't mean from breezy to badger
[08:25] <ootput> don't include 'install'
[08:25] <devinelight> hey guys how do i update ubuntu
[08:25] <blanky> okay
[08:25] <ArrenLex> drminime: fglrx driver. You have it if you have restricted modules.
[08:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> drminime05, they are supported by the open source driver, not the binary driver
[08:25] <blanky> but it does do that right ootput ?
[08:25] <iLLf8d> mainer: iirc its been like that since they started using it been doing open proj/freenode since like mid 90s
[08:25] <mainer> huh,oh well
[08:26] <Yggdrasil> is there aw ay to do a netboot install of ubuntu ?
[08:26] <mainer> if it works it works:)
[08:26] <ArrenLex> drminime: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:26] <drminime05> which open source driver?
[08:26] <iLLf8d> yeah sucks when the docs makeya do stuff you don't have to
[08:26] <iLLf8d> I've run into that before
[08:26] <blanky> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade updates the dist right
[08:26] <ArrenLex> drminime: there is no open source driver supporting 3D.
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> Yggdrasil, i think so
[08:26] <Yggdrasil> hmm
[08:26] <ArrenLex> If you can live with 2d only, use 'ati'.
[08:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> drminime05, the one built into X
[08:26] <isolatedvirus_> anyone have any idea as to why amarok wont play .mp3 or .m4a?
[08:27] <ArrenLex> isolated: does it give you some sort of error message?
[08:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yes
[08:27] <mainer> bLanky: i'd use aptitude,its better at dependenys for meta-packages,dist-upgrades
[08:27] <ISOLATEDViRuS> give me a sec, ill make it give me the error again.
[08:27] <devinelight> hey anyone can tel me how do i update ubuntu?
[08:28] <Audimage> sudo apt-get update
[08:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> update to get new packag elist, dist-upgrade to do the upgrade
[08:28] <ootput> devinelight: use the synaptic interface, cick reload, mark updates, and apply
[08:30] <devinelight> ootput, umm im kind of lost im new to linux where  is that synapatic interface
[08:30] <mustardongaim> is the nvidia 7600 GT supported by the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes, probably
[08:30] <ISOLATEDViRuS> Error Loading Media : There is no available decoder
[08:30] <mustardongaim> I'm just installing nvidia-glx, so I was curious :)
[08:31] <JoseStefan> Does the flashplugin-nonfree from the 'dapper' repo no longer work?
[08:31] <drminime05> ArrenLex: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` xorg-driver-fglrx
[08:31] <drminime05> verify that's right?
[08:31] <mustardongaim> devinelight: its an application for installing softward from the repositories
[08:31] <drminime05> "couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules"
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Did you copy it exactly?
[08:32] <drminime05> yeah
[08:32] <drminime05> substituting my user name
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Don't substitute anything!
[08:32] <ArrenLex> Substitute does not equal copy exactly.
[08:32] <ArrenLex> COPY EXACTLY.
[08:32] <crazy_penguin> Good day all!
[08:32] <drminime05> k
[08:32] <mustardongaim> drminime05: is it 'module' or 'modules'?
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> yes.
[08:33] <drminime05> go it
[08:33] <drminime05> *got it
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i copied it exactly.
[08:33] <ISOLATEDViRuS> want me to give the path that it lists?
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> file:///home/isolatedvirus/Documents/Music/6-02 Eternity.m4a
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> there.
[08:34] <ISOLATEDViRuS> which would only be my file -_-
[08:34] <devinelight> mustardongaim, can u give me a link where i can get it
[08:35] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ArrenLex , would you like to take this to PM?
[08:35] <mustardongaim> devinelight: it comes by default with Ubuntu...what are you using?
[08:35] <devinelight> im using ubuntu mustardongaim
[08:35] <ArrenLex> Isolated, I wasn't talking to you! xD
[08:35] <devinelight> but i cant find where it is
[08:35] <ArrenLex> I was talking to drminime.
[08:35] <ISOLATEDViRuS> im slowly going insane over here... sitting in this silence <_<
[08:35] <paetsr> hello all
[08:36] <mustardongaim> devinelight: try looking in your System>Administration menu...for Synaptic Package Manager
[08:36] <drminime05> Arren, it installed successfully, but the x server still won't start
[08:36] <ArrenLex> Isolated: Try googling "amarok mp3".
[08:36] <ootput> devinelight: it's the the system menu
[08:36] <paetsr> can somebody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2??
[08:36] <paetsr> can somebody please help me with a problem im having with libdvdcss2??
[08:36] <ArrenLex> drminime: does it give you an error message?
[08:36] <ootput> devinelight: sorry, i'm not using gnome atm, so i cna't tell where it is exactly
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> !amarok
[08:36] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[08:36] <devinelight> hmm
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> gah
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> fags.
[08:36] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ...i JUST had a question, but i forgot it ;_;
[08:37] <drminime05> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:00:0
[08:37] <drminime05> (EE) No devices detected.
[08:37] <drminime05> Fatal server error:
[08:37] <drminime05> no screens found
[08:37] <devinelight> ok i found it
[08:37] <drminime05> that's in the log file
[08:37] <corstar> can synfig be compilled on dapper? or do we have to wait for edgy?
[08:37] <paetsr> im trying to install libdvdcss2 on a amd64 ubuntu
[08:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> paetsr, get the libdvdcssread 3 package, its in there iirc
[08:37] <drminime05> error message "fatal server error: no screens found"
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Isolated: https://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[08:38] <paetsr> i did not have a problem o nthe i386.. on my laptop
[08:38] <ArrenLex> It's like the fifth google result for "amarok mp3".
[08:38] <ArrenLex> Couldn't you have at least done that yourself?
[08:38] <ArrenLex> drminime: what driver are you using?
[08:38] <JoseStefan> Does the flashplugin-nonfree from the 'dapper' repo no longer work?
[08:38] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i wasnt bitching about the google thing dude.
[08:39] <drminime05> fglrx
[08:39] <iLLf8d> hey all do swap partitions need to be zeroed like swap files? or does fdisk take care of that forya?
[08:39] <iLLf8d> and if so how can you tell it to use a count of available space?
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> iLLf8d, they need to be formated after creation
[08:39] <devinelight> Oompa, i found it now what do i have to do
[08:39] <iLLf8d> mkswap /dev/mypart (but what about the dd stuffs?)
[08:39] <drminime05> ATI R100 Radeon 7200, just for clarification
[08:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> iLLf8d, *shrug*
[08:40] <iLLf8d> the manpage says it needs to be zeroed I was wondering if fdisk did that
[08:40] <ArrenLex> drminime, try executing 'sudo modprove -v fglrx' before 'startx'.
[08:40] <iLLf8d> will check gentoo docs
[08:40] <iLLf8d> =P
[08:40] <ArrenLex> Sorry, sudo modprobe -v fglrx
[08:40] <ArrenLex> (spelling error)
[08:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol iLLf8d :P
[08:40] <compotatoj> Is there a way to detect what kind of usb mouse you have or a program to map your buttons for you?
[08:41] <drminime05> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:41] <painkiler> hey guys
[08:41] <painkiler> how do I get the Compiz Settings Manager working?
[08:41] <richard109> problem installing Java for amd64 version
[08:41] <ArrenLex> drminime: do 'lspci | grep Display' and paste it here.
[08:41] <drminime05> nothing
[08:42] <drminime05> lspci
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82815 815 Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> ok..
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA USB (rev 02)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
[08:42] <DJAdmiral> !paste
[08:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801AA AC'97 Audio (rev 02)
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> something is terribly wrong here...
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:01:04.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 78)
[08:42] <ArrenLex> drminime, pastebin!
[08:42] <drminime05> 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]
[08:42] <ArrenLex> It's in the chat title.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> !paste
[08:42] <DJAdmiral> stop flooding!
[08:42] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i already installed the gstream codecs <_<
[08:42] <drminime05> sorry guys
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Oh, nevermind.
[08:42] <ArrenLex> Yeah...
[08:43] <ISOLATEDViRuS> arrenlex, ive installed those gstream codecs a while ago, and amarok still wont play <_<
[08:43] <ArrenLex> drminime, I'm sorry to go all microsoft on you, but try rebooting. Sometimes magical things happen.
[08:44] <drminime05> haha
[08:44] <drminime05> will do
[08:46] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:46] <DJAdmiral> Guys, I'm having an error when I'm trying to execute a JAR file. Output ----> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24461
[08:47] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys need help mounting windows on edubuntu
[08:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, try #edubuntu :)
[08:47] <RedGhost> Is there a package in the repos to allow me to view .WMV files, the windows codec pack?
[08:47] <RedGhost> I remember it from a few years ago
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> w32codecs
[08:48] <DJAdmiral> !code
[08:48] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[08:48] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> RedGhost: use videolan player
[08:48] <DJAdmiral> !codec
[08:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> not sure if its in repos, its in plf/seveas iirc
[08:48] <drminime05> still no good Arren
[08:48] <RedGhost> Yeah I have vlc. Thanks guys.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> @Punjabi: try java -jar <file>
[08:48] <drminime05> lspci brings this: 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200]
[08:48] <ArrenLex> drminime: same error?
[08:48] <Squee> Has anyone here attempted Edgy + Xgl + AMD64?
[08:48] <Asc> Pun: does nix VLC do wmv3 now?
[08:49] <drminime05> modprobe bings FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[08:49] <DJAdmiral> Arrenlex: I'm trying to execute the jar file :P
[08:49] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys i need help regarding /etc/fstab
[08:49] <RedGhost> ugh w32codecs isnt in the repos any more
[08:49] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: Not PunjabiFLOYDIAN lol.
[08:49] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> DJAdmiral: LOL. WHy
[08:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> tell RedGhost about w32codecs
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> er
[08:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell RedGhost about w32codecs
[08:50] <Asc> Pun: you're trying to mount your windows partition?
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Asc: i used the disk mounter script
[08:50] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: If you'd care to take a look at this please: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24461
[08:50] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> still m unable to access the partition
[08:50] <Squee> redghost ubuntuguide.com use their repositories, and they have a tutorial for codecs there too
[08:50] <kromel> Help!  Upgraded to i686 kernel from i386, now some of my apps won't open.
[08:50] <Asc> Does it just not mount, or does it give you permissions trouble?
[08:51] <Luke> kromel: what apps?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> drminime: look at this page http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33706447
[08:51] <Luke> !tell Luke about w32codecs
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> It is mounted normally. But whenver i try to access it, it just keeps on loading
[08:51] <cherubiel> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: are you able to access the mounts as root?
[08:51] <ArrenLex> It seems to suggest the radeon driver has 3D support.
[08:51] <Squee> Is anyone in here running XGL + Edgy?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cherubiel: i m able to access all otehr partitions except one
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> /dev/hdb5
[08:51] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each desktop?
[08:51] <cherubiel> and the fstab entry for tat?
[08:51] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the /etc/fstab shows it is auto mounted
[08:51] <Asc> Pun, weird.   ArrenLex: Could you please
[08:52] <DJAdmiral> !language
[08:52] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:52] <Rizla420> sorry. bot
[08:52] <Asc> Anybody know if the default kernel includes NTFS read right now?
[08:53] <Skarr> I need some help installing wine. I downloaded the packages.tz off of http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-all/ and extracted it but ti didnt work
[08:53] <Squee> asc: I'm quite sure it's read only
[08:53] <ArrenLex> DJadmiral: I'm sorry, I'm not familiar enough with java to understand what you're trying to do and how it differs from java -jar <file.jar>
[08:53] <ArrenLex> Please explain?
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> yeah. i used the disk mounter script. it should have laoded the thing.
[08:53] <compotatoj> I am on edgy and there are two of all my partion "drives" on my desktop. (Like sda1, sda1 (2), sda2, sda2 (2))
[08:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> all the other partitions are mounted and accessible. except one.
[08:53] <Asc> Eh, I'm pretty sure it does anyway or that volume wouldn't have worked.
[08:53] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each desktop?
[08:53] <Asc> Pun: Are any of the other partitions NTFS?
[08:53] <Rizla420> i'll take that as a 'no'
[08:54] <Rizla420> any east coaster still up tonight?
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Pun: Yup vfat
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Asc: yup vfat
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> 2 vfats, one ntfs
[08:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> Rizla420, depends on which continent :)
[08:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> vfats are accessible.
[08:55] <Rizla420> touche' punujabi
[08:55] <Ashex> is there any way to have all output from kmail saved to a file
[08:55] <Rizla420> i was being ignorant assuming everyone was US based
[08:55] <Ashex> like if i launch it from cli, for it to log all errors
[08:55] <Ashex> I'm attempting to file a bug report
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hell. why do we have to mount everything.
[08:55] <Ashex> but the problem is that the bug occurs while shutting down
[08:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> why cant it be like windows. i mean.... ????
[08:55] <Asc> (this actually isn't why I don't use NTFS any more, but it's part of the reason I won't in the future)
[08:55] <ArrenLex> Ashex: kmail 2> /tmp/afile
[08:56] <Asc> Pun: I assume it's because you want to access it ;p
[08:56] <ArrenLex> Punjabi: because Windows is already like windows. It would be redundant.
[08:56] <Rizla420> cuz punjuabi it goes against the linux ethos.  Make it as safe and difficult as possible
[08:56] <Rizla420> :)
[08:56] <Rizla420> im a linux noob
[08:56] <Asc> Troubleshooting is fun, I tell you!
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> Rizla420: Yeah. that is right. but i just migrated from Windows. And i swear I like linux
[08:56] <Luke> is there any way to easily remove all packages but the ones installed by a default server install?
[08:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> it reallly really rocks
[08:56] <Rizla420> i went through a lot of growing pain just gettin ubuntu setup
[08:56] <Rizla420> i do to
[08:57] <Skarr> I need some help installing wine. I downloaded the packages.tz off of http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-all/ and extracted it but ti didnt work
[08:57] <Ashex> thanks ArrenLex
[08:57] <Rizla420> i only boot to win for fruity loops.  I just mess around on it to make some stuff
[08:57] <Ashex> ArrenLex, do you know if this will inclode gdb report?
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> !wine
[08:57] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:57] <Ashex> s/inclode/include
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Packages.tz just describes the packages, scarr. You need the actual package itself.
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> try using that to install wine.
[08:57] <Skarr> Iknow, DJadmiral
[08:57] <Asc> Pun: I suppose there's no chance you can copy everything off the partition, format it as FAT, and replace the files? :p
[08:57] <Skarr> ButI dont have internet!
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> hey. how to install wine on ubuntu?
[08:57] <DJAdmiral> or using the official wine repos
[08:57] <Skarr> On linux yet.
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i mean
[08:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> apt-get?
[08:58] <Skarr> It's a catch 22 because I need internet to install wine, but i need to install wine to get internet
[08:58] <Rizla420> to be on topic, is it worth upgrading to the new kernel? I dont want to mess my current setup up.   It has nothing to do with debuggers.
[09:00] <Skarr> Maybe building it from source?
[09:00] <Asc> Skarr: You might try looking for a debian package on the internet
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Skarr: get what, nvidia-glx?
[09:01] <zoidberg_> guys do you know if WINE works well with programs that use MIDI sounds...like BAND in A BOX?
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: No, wine
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Skarr, why can't you just apt-get install wine?
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: but i dont have internet so i cant use deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[09:01] <Skarr> ArrenLex: what?
[09:01] <kromel> Hello, I just updated kernel from i386 to 686, there a way to update my applications to 686?
[09:01] <ArrenLex> Skarr: wine is in the ubuntu repositories.
[09:01] <alex222> how do i set a wallapaper for each indubidual workspace/desktop
[09:02] <Skarr> Is it alreayd installed on ubuntu?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/otherosfs/wine
[09:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i just used this command:
[09:02] <JoseStefan> kromel, there is no need
[09:02] <Skarr> Is that what you mean?
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Skarr, no, but you can install it easily.
[09:02] <Skarr> How?
[09:02] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:02] <Asc> kromel: recompile maybe?
[09:02] <Skarr> God I feel like an idiot
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Skarr: does the machine you're trying to install wine on have internet?
[09:02] <zoidberg_> guys do you know if WINE works well with programs that use MIDI sounds...like BAND in A BOX?
[09:02] <Skarr> ArrenLex: negative
[09:03] <richard109> can anyone suggest a traffic shaper for ubuntu?
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Skarr: then download the wine package from the site I just gave you and save it to your machine. Then, run the command 'dpkg -i <thefile>' on that machine.
[09:03] <kromel> JoseStefan: My movie player and FireFox wouldn't work afterwards till I reinstalled them.  Was just wondering if there was a command for it to look at all my old 386 apps and have them converted to 686.  Me are a noob.
[09:03] <Skarr> zoidberg_: Maybe, youd be better off either just using a linux MIDI program or switch to windows to use it
[09:03] <DJAdmiral> ArrenLex: I found out what the real issue was! I was missing a class file from gij therefore it refused to execute! I'm apt-getting gcj now! :D
[09:03] <Skarr> ArrenLex: always there to help me thanks
[09:03] <zoidberg_> Skarr: i want to use BAND IN A BOX in linux
[09:03] <richard109> traffic shaper anyone?
[09:04] <DJAdmiral> traffic....shaper?
[09:04] <alex222> did anyone get super karamba working under gnome + xgl?
[09:04] <ArrenLex> richard: behold the magic of "apt-cache search traffic shaper"
[09:04] <Skarr> zoidberg_: Try it out and see
[09:04] <Asc> Skarr: some recent-ish-looking dpkgs are here: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/index.html
[09:04] <JoseStefan> kromel, you might be missing the restricted-modules, try installing pkg: linux-686
[09:04] <zoidberg> Skarr: i did when i hit play i hear nothing
[09:04] <Skarr> Asc: Thanks but arren fixed it :)
[09:04] <richard109> limit traffic of specific applications
[09:05] <DJAdmiral> zoidberg: Try installing more codecs?
[09:05] <richard109> internet traffic
[09:05] <Skarr> zoidberg: maybe you should get cefenag or whatever
[09:05] <zoidberg> DJAdmiral: codecs for what?
[09:05] <kromel> JoseStefan: I did that, along with the headers. hmmm
[09:05] <ArrenLex> *cookie.eat*
[09:05] <Skarr> Is there any way to switch afile from windows to linux withotu a disk / thumb drive? (I have each partitioned on its own space, obviously)
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Skarr: have you mounted your windows partition?
[09:06] <Skarr> ArrenLex: I... think?
[09:06] <Skarr> I'm able to use it, if thats what you mean
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Skarr: so what's the problem with just copying it?
[09:06] <DJAdmiral> are you able to access your windoze partition directly from ubuntu?
[09:07] <Skarr> ArrenLex: I'm lazy, xD nevermind.
[09:07] <Skarr> DJ: yeah, but not the other way around.
[09:07] <iLLf8d> lol
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> Skarr: rofl
[09:07] <Skarr> wait
[09:07] <Skarr> Oh
[09:07] <Skarr> LMAO
[09:07] <iLLf8d> cp command he means
[09:07] <Skarr> ""yeah, but not the other way around."
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> Skarr: You can't do it the other way around.
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> unless
[09:07] <Ashex> how might i automatically log errors from gdb?
[09:07] <DJAdmiral> You use an extended 3 filesystem viewer
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Skarr: to copy your file, I assume.
[09:08] <iLLf8d> heh
[09:08] <Skarr> Having ubuntu makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside...
[09:09] <iLLf8d> Skarr: blood does that for me
[09:09] <Skarr> But they need a mascot, do they have one?
[09:09] <JoseStefan> Skarr you could print the file, make a photo copy, and then scan it :P
[09:09] <Skarr> I mean 3 people isn't a mascot. It's a cheesy stock photograph.
[09:09] <iLLf8d> Skarr: the easiest way to do it tho seriously is to move the file to floppy/cd
[09:10] <Skarr> JoseStefan: Speaking of that, is there software that you can scan something and use it to make the text on the pic into text that you can C/P
[09:10] <DJAdmiral> Jk:P
[09:10] <JoseStefan> Skarr, dont know :/
[09:10] <Skarr> That would be useful.
[09:10] <jojoman02> is there a way i can get a list of packages i installed recently? Something i installed won't let me boot my system...
[09:10] <Skarr> I suppose something like that could be done, if tablet PC's can recognize MY handwriting
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: yes. But not for Linux. Or, that is, yes for Linux, but it does. not. work.
[09:11] <Skarr> (my mum works with computers and she has 3 tablet laptops)
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: but there are good free ones for Windows that will run great under WINE.
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Skarr: google "free OCR software windows" or something.
[09:11] <Skarr> Now I'm trying to convince her to get her office to use ubuntu
[09:11] <Skarr> OCR?
[09:11] <ArrenLex> Or if you're a masochist you can try installing the Linux OCR software. You have been warned, it does not work.
[09:12] <Skarr> Something something recognition
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Optical Character Recognition. Reading pictures into text.
[09:12] <Skarr> Ah
[09:12] <Skarr> Arrenlex: Indeed I am, paddle please. I'll try it anyway :P
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Skarr: you were warned. ocrad is one. gocr is another.
[09:12] <ArrenLex> They're both in the ubutu repos.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> If you want more information, you can always summon the magic of "apt-cache search ocr" or google "linux ocr"
[09:13] <Skarr> ArrenLex: why does everything that has to do with linux have a weird name? (no offense)
[09:13] <Asc> Skarr: if it's as good as the speach recognition software, it'll take five hours to get working, and understand a word one time out of five.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Skarr; it makes us cool.
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Scarr: OCR actually has nothing to do with Linux. OCR is the official name for reading pictures into text.
[09:13] <Skarr> Asc: Ha, remember that PS2 game where you controlled the girl with your voice?
[09:14] <JoseStefan> that means more time was spent coding and less thinking for a name
[09:14] <Skarr> Asc: Strip nude! I will not do that! Get naked! I will not do that! Shoot zombie! I'm sorry, I don't understand.
[09:14] <Asc> Skarr: I actually have never heard of it, but it sounds amusing
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Skarr, if that worked, a better use would be Ubuntu: fix yourself! Okay, everything now works!
[09:15] <Skarr> Asc: It's kind of funny, you can tell her "Dance" and she dances, she only recognizes dumb commands, not practical ones
[09:15] <jojoman02> is there a way to check a history of packages downloaded? (something i installed hangs my computer)
[09:15] <fyrestrtr> jojoman02: downloaded, or installed?
[09:16] <Skarr> "Pick up note" *I do not have an animal* is one of the things she said, of course this was on the first copy of that game I got, a crappy japanese import
[09:16] <Asc> Skarr: One wonders if something could be arranged with some text-to-speech software set on repeat
[09:16] <Skarr> Heh
[09:16] <zoidberg> hey guys how do you check what processes are running on your soundcard?
[09:17] <Skarr> OMFG I JUST MADE A DISCOVERY
[09:17] <nathanj> does anyone know where i can get a howto on installing ubuntu with fluxbox?
[09:17] <Skarr> woops
[09:17] <Skarr> !language
[09:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:17] <Skarr> There are no anagrams for ubuntu!
[09:17] <zoidberg> guys....how do you see the SOUND APPLICATIONS AND PROCESSES running ?
[09:17] <MugginsM> not in english
[09:17] <Flannel> nathanj: get the alternate ISO, at the boot prompt, type "server", it'll install a GUI-less box, then apt-get install fluxbox
[09:18] <Skarr> So, be back soon guys... Hopefully with a working ubuntu internet  connection ;)
[09:18] <Kernel_Panick> hola hola
[09:18] <Flannel> nathanj: that's if you want just fluxbox, not gnome, xfce, etc.  oh, you'll need to enable universe too.
[09:18] <Kernel_Panick> buenas noches
[09:18] <JoseStefan> !es > Kernel_Panick
[09:18] <jack_> hi, who know where can find the latest(1.0.13) alsa-source?
[09:18] <Skarr> Oh, can you tell me the command one more time arrenlex?
[09:18] <BongSong> When is the next ubuntu being released?
[09:18] <Flannel> BongSong: end of october
[09:18] <Skarr> !alsa
[09:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Skarr: what command is this?
[09:19] <nathanj> Flannel: reckon gnome with run on 333mhz with 192mb ram lappy?
[09:19] <jojoman02> BongSong: should be nest month
[09:19] <Skarr> ArrenLex: for the package, like dpckg -1 <filename> or something
[09:19] <Flannel> nathanj: it'll run, might/probably wont be happy.  try xubuntu
[09:19] <fyrestrtr> nathanj: run yeah. Usable? No.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Skarr: dpkg -i <filename>
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Good luck with that. I'm leaving, it's late.
[09:19] <Skarr> Flannel:* SO I SPENT 3 DAYS SETTING THIS UP AND NOW I HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN IN A MONTH?*
[09:19] <Flannel> nathanj: or, use fluxbox ;)
[09:19] <Flannel> !caps
[09:19] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Hope I helped someone at least a bit!
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Skarr: fix your caps lock key first.
[09:20] <Asc> nathanj: I vote that it will work just fine
[09:20] <Flannel> Skarr: is anyone forcing you to upgrade?
[09:20] <iLLf8d> ArrenLex: just being here your support has helped us all out alot
[09:20] <nathanj> xubuntu doesnt look maintained? ;p
[09:20] <lastnode> is there a meta package for all SDL libs?
[09:20] <Skarr> Flannel: No, but is there like an automatic update thingy?
[09:20] <Flannel> Skarr: like all ubuntu versions
[09:20] <Skarr> Pheeew
[09:20] <Skarr> k leavin now
[09:21] <Skarr> be back soon.
[09:21] <BongSong> When is Edgy going to be released?
[09:21] <fyrestrtr> BongSong: when its done.
[09:21] <BongSong> ok
[09:21] <nathanj> is xubuntu mainted still?
[09:21] <nathanj> maintained?
[09:21] <Flannel> nathanj: of course.
[09:22] <Flannel> BongSong: again, the end of October
[09:22] <nathanj> Flannel: is there edgy rls?
[09:22] <Flannel> nathanj: what?
[09:22] <nathanj> Flannel: is there a xubuntu edgy rls?
[09:23] <nathanj> /s/rls/release
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> it will be released in all flavors when its done. So yes.
[09:23] <Flannel> nathanj: er... there will be.  I'm sure there is an alpha currently.  #ubuntu+1 can help you more
[09:24] <richard109> for the 64bit version of Azureus is it best to get the 64 bit version of java ?
[09:25] <BongSong> Fedora rocks.
[09:25] <BongSong> Ubuntu rocks
[09:29] <TheH> Hello, can some one help me with getting to work gedit on xorg? please
[09:29] <sontek> I'm trying to install an app that needs termcap library, What package should I install?
[09:30] <TheH> Hello, can some one help me with getting to work gedit on xorg? please
[09:30] <MugginsM> stupid crap web developers
[09:32] <okto> TheH: you mean you want to edit your xorg config?
[09:32] <okto> TheH: then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:33] <TheH> yes I want to try to get my hdtv to wkir on 720p widescreen and I need to edit xorg but I get no permission even if I do ksudo
[09:33] <MugginsM> oh well done adobe, send me the wrong version of flash
[09:34] <TheH>  this is what I get: user@user-desktop:~$ sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <TheH> sudo: gedit: command not found
[09:34] <DJAdmiral> Flash was better off under Macromedia in my opinion
[09:35] <MugginsM> flash has never been good
[09:35] <DJAdmiral> but it was still better off
[09:35] <DJAdmiral> btw we're getting off topic now
[09:36] <TheH> I can't run that command
[09:36] <TheH> ?
[09:37] <Asc> TheH: uh, do you have gedit installed?  It works fine for me
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> speaking of which, is there an open source ubuntu or linux alternative to flash? not flash player, but flash which is used to create flash movies.
[09:37] <TheH> I need to install it? no then I dont
[09:37] <DJAdmiral> TheH: sudo apt-get install gedit
[09:37] <TheH> thx let me try it
[09:37] <iLLf8d> no don't do it
[09:37] <iLLf8d> heh
[09:38] <MugginsM> dj: there isn't even a flash *player* for half the linux platforms
[09:38] <TheH> is this command like yum on fedora?
[09:38] <iLLf8d> use nano or install vim =)
[09:38] <TheH> downloads anything  you type?
[09:39] <iLLf8d> doesn't work for pr0n
[09:39] <DarkMageZ> TheH, yup, cept faster
[09:39] <Asc> TheH: only if you know what you want to download, and spell it correctly
[09:39] <DJAdmiral> MugginsM: But I've heard a lot about vector based animation programs for ubuntu. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
[09:39] <marcin_ant> hi guys
[09:39] <TheH> bice sounds good
[09:39] <marcin_ant> I got weird problem with gnome-terminal in dapper
[09:39] <TheH> thx
[09:39] <marcin_ant> I cannot run any application with gui from terminal
[09:39] <MugginsM> dj: inkscape I think, does nice vector stuff
[09:40] <MugginsM> with SVG, which actually *is* an open standard
[09:40] <marcin_ant> because I get info that I get info that 'cannot connect to X server'
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> marcin_ant: try gksudo to run them?
[09:40] <DJAdmiral> ah
[09:40] <MugginsM> but being an open standard, isn't supported by IE
[09:40] <iLLf8d> marcin_ant: xhost +localhost and or logout and nuke the files in /tmp (just a guess)
[09:40] <sontek> Hey, do any of you guys know a way to get termcap installed or should I do it from source?
[09:40] <TheH> well what I'm trying to do with all this is  get my hdtv with my 6600gt nvidia to work , any of you have done something like thta? I could not get this to work on fedora, I'm hoping I can on ubuntu
[09:40] <marcin_ant> DJAdmiral: yes I can Alt-F2 and gksu but I relly would like to run from console
[09:41] <Asc> Speaking of which.  Is there a way to run a program from a terminal and *not* have it take over said terminal? (like wine, mplayer, etc.)
[09:41] <marcin_ant> s/relly/really
[09:41] <MugginsM> mplayer &
[09:41] <MugginsM> put an & after it, it'll go into the "background"
[09:41] <MugginsM> it'll close if you close the terminal, but you can otherwise use the terminal
[09:42] <Asc> Muggins: it doesn't make a video window
[09:42] <marcin_ant> iLLf8d: xhost +localhost gives "unable to open display "" "
[09:42] <iLLf8d> yeah its probably some /tmp file garbage then unless ubuntu did something to it that made it different
[09:43] <FluxD> hello I have a small question I am adding a custom location in software properties is there anything wrong with this format? deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu dapper
[09:43] <iLLf8d> marcin_ant: if you reboot it'll go away of its own accord when /tmp gets nuked
[09:43] <Asc> Hm, seems to work for wine though
[09:43] <MugginsM> oh mplayer is probably wanting to grab your keypresses
[09:44] <MugginsM> so it won't like not having the terminal there
[09:44] <Asc> Ought to work for what I actually need it for, mplayer isn't very important.  Thanks.
[09:45] <MugginsM> just watch you don't close the terminal :)
[09:45] <iLLf8d> you could go to console and kill x and nuke /tmp and the dotfiles in /tmp yourself
[09:45] <iLLf8d> and restart x
[09:45] <iLLf8d> and it should play nice then
[09:45] <roconnor> according to my /proc/cpuinfo: cpu MHz         : 1395.658, but according to /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq I'm at 600000
[09:46] <roconnor> which one is right?
[09:47] <MugginsM> not sure which they're reading, but there are various way of measuring the speed. the "internal" clock of a CPU is usually a lot higher than the "external" clock that connects to things like memory
[09:47] <BongSong> fuck microsoft
[09:47] <MugginsM> it's possible it's running at 1400MHz internally and 600MHz externally
[09:47] <MugginsM> bong: I'd rather not, they're unclean
[09:47] <ompaul> !language
[09:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:48] <TheH> after I did gedit I'm getting this: ** (gedit:5211): CRITICAL **: gedit_plugin_update_ui: assertion `GEDIT_IS_PLUGIN (plugin)' failed
[09:48] <iLLf8d> ok I'm gonna crash night all
[09:48] <Asc> Bong: Just because Microsoft is evil doesn't mean it's bad
[09:48] <TheH> I can open and save the file with sude but why the error
[09:48] <Asc> wait....
[09:48] <iLLf8d> cya Kamping_Kaiser and sethk thanks for the help and chatter
[09:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> later iLLf8d
[09:49] <roconnor> MugginsM: When I was running Breezy last week, my cpuinfo would throttle down to around 600 MHz, but now it just stays at the top reading
[09:52] <ompaul> roconnor, have you done the updates?
[09:52] <Seagoon> hi, can someone please tell me how to change hdd labels in Kubuntu?
[09:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> guys. i need help. the x server keeps on restarting.
[09:52] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i m sick of it
[09:52] <ompaul> roconnor, I don't know if that was sorted inthe updates or not
[09:52] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you enabled xgl or something like that?
[09:53] <nox-Hand> Hey
[09:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[09:53] <nox-Hand> How do I get the intel915gm graphics in a lappy to run X on the liveCD?
[09:53] <ompaul> nox-Hand, most likely press F6 as it starts to boot and add "vga=771" at the start
[09:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> cant anyone help me. the x server keeps on restarting itself.
[09:53] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> i lose imporatant data everytime this hapens
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, answer the qusetion you go asked
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> *got
[09:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> which question?
[09:54] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you enabled xgl or something like that?
[09:54] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> no ompaul. no nothng like that.
[09:54] <nox-Hand> ompaul: I'll try :)
[09:54] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, what kind of video card have you got?
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> nvidia ge force mx 400
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the drivers have been loaded.
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> and
[09:55] <richiefrich> whats the options on the gnome panel to get the  virtual screens back .. ?
[09:55] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> the problem was before also. the problem was with a fresh install of ubuntu
[09:55] <richiefrich> right click and select .. ?
[09:55] <richiefrich> darn i cant rememebr
[09:56] <sandy16> hi there
[09:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> anyone please? is this with dapper drake or my motherboard?
[09:56] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, well others don't seem to have the issues you have and your question is too limiting
[09:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you tried changing the driver to vesa? does it still happen?
[09:56] <roconnor> ompaul: yep, I'm up to date.
[09:57] <arnducky> re: ompaul
[09:57] <Asc> richiefrich: look for something with the word 'workspace' in it
[09:57] <roconnor> ompaul: er, I should metion that I am running Dapper now, in case that wasn't clear
[09:57] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> well. my PC restarts itself .
[09:57] <richiefrich> thank you
[09:57] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, that looks like you got the wrong drivers
[09:57] <nox-Hand> ompaul: At the F6 thing, it cannot load kernel - I think I need to have something more to that line?
[09:57] <ompaul> richiefrich, maybe no one knows
[09:57] <nox-Hand> ubuntu vga=771 or something?
[09:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> what is the cause of the PC restarting iteslf without any wrong drivers
[09:58] <ompaul> nox-Hand, you just add it to the end
[09:58] <richiefrich> ompaul lool ...
[09:58] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, many possible causes
[09:58] <arnducky> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, have you looked at dmesg ?
[09:58] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> how to check the dmesg thing?
[09:58] <arnducky> tail dmesg
[09:59] <XaXXon> what's the fancy new pretty window manager called?  The one with all the video demos on youtube and such?
[09:59] <Asc> bumptop?
[09:59] <XaXXon> xgl I think
[09:59] <Asc> or the spinning one
[09:59] <ompaul> XaXXon, #ubuntu-xgl
[10:00] <arnducky> it also outputs to one of your terms during boot (often F7 or F9/10 -- just before or after the X-server)
[10:00] <arnducky> (unless you are booting in runlevel 3 or lower that is)
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> PunjabiFLOYDIAN: probably your pc is overheating.
[10:01] <ompaul> PunjabiFLOYDIAN, (A) make sure you apt-get all the updates (B) make sure you have the right nvidia driver, or better still leave it on the Free one, then you can see if it is happening with that
[10:01] <arnducky> oops PunjabiFLOYDIAN "dmesg tail"
[10:02] <atk> Hi. What are possible reasons why I get send_packet: message too long -error when trying to get an ip? When set ip is set statically I can ping but can't really connect to anything. It's like I can only send one packet per connection.
[10:02] <arnducky> Hey ompaul, have you tried the new GATOS Radeon drivers?
[10:02] <TestDrivenBug> I didnt find good any
[10:03] <arnducky> atk dunno... completed corrupted stack???
[10:03] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> ok thanks. by the way, can i modify the linux kernel?
[10:03] <Skarr> How do I know wether my computer si 64 or 32 bit?
[10:03] <elmargol> Skarr: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:03] <ompaul> arnducky, no, plain free only
[10:04] <ompaul> arnducky, or should I say out of the box free on ly
[10:04] <TestDrivenBug> I didn't find good answer: Ubuntu binaries are 386 compatible, but are they optimized to take advantage of better cpu?
[10:04] <ompaul> :)
[10:04] <arnducky> re: atk could it be his MTU (system would just fragment everything if it was too low, wouldn't it?)
[10:04] <atk> arnducky: I admit that this edgy eft but it did work just fine with my laptop for a week. I did restart it many times and it still worked but not now. I tried with the older installed kernels, no luck. What could cause such corruption and how to fix it?
[10:04] <ompaul> !edgy
[10:04] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[10:05] <ompaul> atk, you are in the wrong channel for edgy :)
[10:05] <elmargol> !schedule
[10:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[10:05] <arnducky> atk -- that sounds liek a VERY WEIRD problem to me
[10:05] <arnducky> atk are you using a router? or managed switch (possibly misconfigured)?
[10:05] <atk> ompaul: #ubuntu.edgy?
[10:05] <ompaul>  #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <Asc> Punjab: you can, in a very literal way, modify it as much as you want.
[10:06] <atk> arnducky: adsl modem - dumb switch - laptop
[10:06] <ompaul> always the next / dev channel
[10:06] <atk> right, thanks
[10:07] <arnducky> atk, I remember when Dapper used to break all the time.  Just be patient
[10:07] <TestDrivenBug> any ideras how ubuntu binaries are compiled?
[10:09] <atk> arnducky: yeah.. but I guess you could upgrade. That is something I cant do right now since the problem is the networking
[10:09] <arnducky> TestDrivenBug, try looking at launchpad (retty much the same as Linux all binaries -- with a compiler in the target enviro, against stock libs)
[10:09] <atk> arnducky: And I remember when Debian unstable would break for me ;)
[10:10] <audimage> when installing my nvidia drivers i get the error "you appear to be running an x server please exit x before installing"
[10:10] <audimage> how do i exit x
[10:10] <lastnode_> audimage, er, ctrl+alt+f1 and pkill X?
[10:10] <arnducky> Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc   <-- fastest way hehehe
[10:11] <arnducky> sudo killall startx ?
[10:11] <TheH> is there a way to install nvidia drivers from apt-get I have a 6600gt
[10:11] <TestDrivenBug> arnducky: ty :)
[10:11] <bl4cktone> Hi Everybody!
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> !nvidia > TheH
[10:12] <crashd> hey guys, i was wondering if i can get a little help with firefox32 on 64bit
[10:12] <crashd> i've tried some of the howto's, used one of the scripts on the forums and also downloaded swiftfox32, but all o fthem seem to just run the 64bit version
[10:12] <TheH> Thank you! appreciated!
[10:13] <audimage> pkill x didn't work
[10:14] <arnducky> audimage, Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc   <-- fastest way hehehe
[10:14] <nox-Hand> In the custom boot at the liveCD....
[10:14] <arnducky> you can also switch runlevels with the init command to a runlevel that doesn't support the X-server
[10:15] <nox-Hand> How can I make it boot regularly just with vga=771?
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: that doesn't shut down X, that just restarts it.
[10:15] <audimage> how?
[10:15] <audimage> simple=good
[10:15] <fyrestrtr> audimage: first, logout of your session, till you see the gdm login screen. Then, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and login. Finally, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:16] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, depends on what runlevel you're in and whether it was started manually.
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> audimage: then continue with your nvidia install.
[10:16] <arnducky> If it was started manually it doesn't restart
[10:16] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: yes, but this is ubuntu. If the man is installing nvidia drivers, he probably hasn't messed with the run levels.
[10:17] <arnducky> good pt
[10:17] <fyrestrtr> arnducky: so lets stick to what's closest to ubuntu's profile.
[10:17] <audimage> ive only been using linux for 10 days or so
[10:17] <audimage> im going to give that a try fyre, thanks in advance
[10:17] <nox-Hand> anyone?
[10:18] <arnducky> could he just use top from a term?  (err then we'd have to show him screen and irssi first so he could stay connected here, right?)
[10:18] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, I'm lazy I'd just do "init 3" from a root (or sudo) term
[10:20] <arnducky> if he kills gdm (or kdm or xdm) first the x-server should not restart after Ctrl-Alt-Bkspce too IIRC since the DMs are what restarts it
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> what tha heck top has to do with anything?
[10:20] <carlos> hola
[10:21] <arnducky> top can find and kill process easily -- even renice them
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> talk about using a hammer to swat a fly. Killing a process is *not* how you restart things.
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> its also *not* how you stop things.
[10:21] <arnducky> it can halt stop pause whatever you like
[10:21] <arnducky> lol
[10:22] <arnducky> but I take it suspend and fg are not apropoe here
[10:22] <Asc> but how *do* you stop X, quickly and easily, in a way that a newbie can understand and reliably duplicate and which doesn't leave it disabled?
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> Asc: the way I mentioned.
[10:23] <Skarr> A couple questions: One, how do I switch to root, two, how do I navigate to a folder in terminal?
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> !root > Skarr
[10:23] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, self taught *can't you tell!*   (LMLFTO -- hohohohoho)
[10:23] <fyrestrtr> Skarr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:23] <Asc> fyrestrtr: okay, I'll give you that one.
[10:23] <Skarr> thanks
[10:23] <Skarr> Its just that this tutorial is so confusing
[10:24] <Skarr> Its about using ndis wrapper and stuf
[10:24] <arnducky> Asc killing processes -- like the DM
[10:24] <Skarr> Its for suse but i supose it will work for ubuntu
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !wiki
[10:24] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> and !wifi
[10:24] <fyrestrtr> !wifi > Skarr
[10:24] <motorcitymadman> Skarr: bash commands : http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[10:24] <bl4cktone> Guys my laptop seems to be running ubuntu great, except when I walk away it will seem as though the system rebooted and was thrown back into logon screen.  think it went to sleep or something?
[10:25] <TheH> I'm installing nvidia driver to use a hdtv on 720p widescreen, should I install nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-dev?
[10:26] <Asc> TheH: -dev is usually required mostly if you need to compile something, in my experience.
[10:26] <TheH> meaning?
[10:26] <Asc> You probably want nvidia-glx
[10:27] <arnducky> fyrestrtr, I missed your answer: all I saw was this: <lastnode_> audimage, er, ctrl+alt+f1 and pkill X?  Mind reposting it?
[10:27] <TheH> sorry I'm chaning from windos
[10:27] <Asc> installing both probably wouldn't hurt anything either. probably.
[10:28] <Skarr> waiiiit a minute, my main account is teh sudo?
[10:28] <TheH> ok thx!
[10:28] <TheH> letz see what happens
[10:28] <Skarr> cause when I type "cd ndis" it doesnt go there
[10:28] <juggernaut1980> anybody know of a good system monitor for ubuntu?
[10:28] <marcin_ant> I would like to compile my own kernel (2.6.18) for machine based on Core 2 Duo CPU
[10:28] <marcin_ant> could someone suggest which CPU should I set in kernel options?
[10:29] <marcin_ant> Pentium Pro?
[10:29] <bikstopa> juggernaut1980: try gnome-system-monitor
[10:29] <juggernaut1980> thanks!
[10:29] <youby> bl4cktone, how is Pref->power_management set?
[10:29] <roconnor> funny, setting the cpu throttling to 87% increases my temperature by 2 degrees
[10:29] <Asc> juggernaut1980: atop.  It's console based, but doesn't eat horrible masses of resources like gnome-system-monitor
[10:29] <Skarr> how do i enter my password in the terminal to be sudo?
[10:29] <TheGateKeeper> I stopped emerge kdebase-startkde half way through, wanted to tidy my system so put emerge -C kdebase-startkde, but it comes back can't find it nothing removed, what is the best thing to do?
[10:30] <Asc> Skarr: I think if you use 'sudo bash' the terminal will start a terminal in which you are root
[10:30] <motorcitymadman> Skarr: sudo then enter passwd
[10:30] <TheGateKeeper> ooops wrong channel sorry folks
[10:31] <Asc> Skarr: it's usually better to use 'sudo [command] ' on a per-command basis though.  If that's what you're asking.
[10:31] <atk> arnducky: it works now https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dhcp3/+bug/61989
[10:32] <arnducky> kewl!  =)
[10:32] <fyrestrtr> 11:15 < fyrestrtr> audimage: first, logout of your session, till you see the gdm login screen. Then, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and login. Finally, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:32] <arnducky> Hey -- it was even what I suggested earlier in chan -- the MTU
[10:33] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: why are you compiling a new kernel?
[10:33] <youby> where are downloaded packages stored? can I copy these to a cd/usb and put on another unbuntu  machine without re-downloading?
[10:34] <fyrestrtr> youby: yes you can, assuming its the same release (dapper > dapper, not breezy > dapper). They are stored in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:35] <Skarr> I need indepth help, I just dont understand how to do it
[10:35] <youby> Arh Ok (fyrestrtr), thanks I have a look there!!
[10:35] <Skarr> I went CD ~
[10:35] <Skarr> and then, my ndis folder is in home, so afterwards i did cd ndis
[10:35] <Skarr> and it didnt go there
[10:35] <arnducky> atk note: MTU=1500 is appropriate for broadband connections
[10:36] <Asc> marcin_ant: probably *not* Pentium Pro
[10:36] <arnducky> atk should be good for your dsl, but if you enter a 'hard value' it might not work as well with pon/poff
[10:37] <Skarr> So please please help
[10:37] <arnducky> Skarr locate ndis
[10:37] <Skarr> oh
[10:37] <Skarr> so i just type locate ndis into terminal?
[10:38] <atk> arnducky: good to know, thanks
[10:38] <arnducky> If that doesn't work try [bashprompt~#]  sudo updatedb; locate ndis
[10:38] <Skarr> Linux is confusing
[10:39] <arnducky> If you understand regexp and UNIX dir structure you 'find' is more powerfull though
[10:39] <TeePOG> morning all
[10:40] <arnducky> Skarr, anything new and different can be confusing.  Don't give up!
[10:40] <Skarr> arnducky: OK, thanks, I almost did a couple times
[10:40] <arnducky> (look at me: ten years ago I was right where you are, and now I break Linux even faster and harder than before -- just ask fyrestrtr )
[10:41] <_mason> Gday
[10:41] <Skarr> Oh i just got that
[10:41] <Skarr> "firestarter"
[10:41] <Skarr> fahhh
[10:41] <_mason> how can i using bash, given a filename 'foo.bar' can i determine and strip it of its extension ?
[10:41] <arnducky> Skarr, /whois fyrestrtr
[10:42] <Skarr> I know, but i never understood his name
[10:42] <arnducky> (in IRC, not a console)
[10:42] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: because I got problem with support for jmicron chip and gigabit lan on asus p5b mobo
[10:42] <arnducky> oh, duh
[10:42] <Skarr> lol
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> Hi guys, I am trying to test IR for my laptop-testing page. I am running Edgy and when I type
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> $ cat /proc/net/irda/discovery I get:
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> IrLMP: Discovery log:
[10:42] <Luna-Tick> Even when there is a palm or phone beaming at it.
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> Luna-Tick: best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:43] <marcin_ant> Asc: ok - if not Pentium Pro - then what?
[10:43] <juggernaut1980> i want to install codecs so i can play different vid types like divx/mpg/avi/wmv/mov......how do i go about doing this?
[10:43] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:43] <Luna-Tick> LOL - they just sent me here
[10:43] <juggernaut1980> thanks!
[10:43] <Asc> marcin_ant: That the twenty dollar question is.  What kind of CPU do you have?
[10:44] <Luna-Tick> They are right - the problem isn't actually about edgy specifically
[10:44] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: okay, what processor do you have?
[10:44] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: Core 2 Duo
[10:44] <the1> drools
[10:44] <marcin_ant> Asc: Core 2 Duo
[10:45] <marcin_ant> Asc: btw I wrote this already ;) "I would like to compile my own kernel (2.6.18) for machine based on Core 2 Duo CPU"
[10:46] <TheH> What "linux-restricted-modules" Do I need to install ? I'm running intel for the nvidia drivers
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: which core 2
[10:46] <Asc> marcin_ant:  true, that.
[10:46] <codecaine> TheH the current kernel your running
[10:46] <codecaine> uname -a
[10:47] <Asc> marcin_ant: could you 'cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name' and give us the output?
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> TheH: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[10:47] <TheH> I don't really know..
[10:47] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: E6400 - 2.13 GHz
[10:47] <hyper> Hiya, how can I best move the mount point of /home to a different partition?
[10:47] <Ademan> !nvidia
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: you want pentium m then.
[10:47] <TheH> yes I'm there
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> TheH: type that command as I wrote it, complete with the `uname -r` it will find the the right one and install it.
[10:48] <progek> Hello all, are there any drivers I can install to get 3ddesktop working? I doubt it, but here is my card info-> Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
[10:48] <marcin_ant> Asc: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz
[10:48] <TheH> but it says this: Click the Search button and search for "linux-restricted-modules". You must have restricted modules enabled
[10:48] <progek> 65x/M650/740 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter
[10:49] <TheH> ok I don;t need to do it on the synaptic
[10:49] <Asc> marcin_ant: I was hoping there would be a secret name like with the coppermine family.  I'll defer to fyrestrtr's superior knowledge.
[10:49] <fyrestrtr> Asc: the name is 'Conroe' :)
[10:50] <Asc> madness!
[10:50] <TheH> I get this when I run that line: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:50] <TheH> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:50] <juggernaut1980> what's a good app for playing dvd's?
[10:50] <fyrestrtr> TheH: close synaptic first.
[10:50] <TheH> ok thx
[10:50] <Luna-Tick> juggernaut1980:
[10:51] <Luna-Tick> gxine
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: the default app will launch when you put a dvd in.
[10:51] <progek> So anyway I can get direct rendering?
[10:51] <marcin_ant> Asc, fyrestrtr: thank you
[10:51] <juggernaut1980> i'll be tryin that now then!  XD
[10:51] <Trackilizer> I just updated to edgy, and now after rebooting, "X" is no longer there.
[10:51] <TheH> downloading thank you!
[10:51] <Trackilizer> How do i restore it?
[10:51] <Luna-Tick> fyrestrtr:  The default (totem) can't play DVDs can it?
[10:51] <marcin_ant> another question is if is there support for gigabit lan on asus p5b
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> Trackilizer: you probably want to ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:51] <fyrestrtr> Luna-Tick: it can if you install the decoders.
[10:52] <Luna-Tick> Really? Oh... I thought that something was missing in Dapper. Sorry
[10:52] <juggernaut1980> i installed the package for gxine, but it didn't put a player in my app list.
[10:52] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: lspci -v and find out what is the chipset of you onboard gigabit.
[10:52] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: marvell
[10:52] <Bassetts> can someone help me mount a usb flash drive?
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: the entire thing please. Marvell makes a lot of things.
[10:53] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: it should do it as soon as you plug it in.
[10:53] <frandavid100> hi, is there a place to discuss the tango and tangerine icon sets?
[10:53] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, it doesnt =(
[10:53] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: just a moment I will paste it somewhere, btw this mobo has 2 gigabyte NIC's
[10:54] <nox-Hand> How do you get xorg to set itself up?
[10:54] <nox-Hand> from cli
[10:54] <juggernaut1980> totem is the app that started up but it gave an error.
[10:54] <the1> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <arnducky> the1; nox-Hand dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[10:56] <arnducky> Unless you're doing a fresh install
[10:56] <juggernaut1980> i keep getting this dpkg: parse error when i do the apt-get install
[10:56] <dankmiser> hello, I am having a problem with azureus, I cannot hide error messages and it doesn't appear on desktop, I have to kill java process to make it go away, please help
[10:57] <bl4cktone> Man my firefox lost it's voice again...
[10:57] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24486
[10:57] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, have you done apt-get update first, etc, etc?
[10:57] <juggernaut1980> i'm really very new to ubuntu.
[10:58] <Ademan> is the nvidia-glx  package proprietary?
[10:58] <juggernaut1980> what does apt-get update do?
[10:58] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, have you tried Synaptic on the GUI or Adept (the ubuntu choice)?
[10:58] <juggernaut1980> Synaptic is the trackpad mouse.  i'm not sure what you mean by have i tried it?
[10:58] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, updates your local cache from the repos
[10:58] <Bassetts> my new usb flash driver isnt working, anyway to make it mount?
[10:59] <lastnode__> i installed flashplugin-nonfree but sound doesnt work. i killed esd. any other ideas?
[10:59] <arnducky> nonono -- the program
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> i'm running update.
[10:59] <mrDaniel> juggernaut1980: with the command 'apt-get update' you refresh your package-lists form the ubuntu-repository
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> yes!  :)
[10:59] <arnducky> Ctrl-Alt-F1 "gksudo Synaptic"
[10:59] <juggernaut1980> sudo apt-get update is exactly what i typed in.
[11:00] <Bassetts> i think its trying to mount my usb flash drive as the same drive as my hard drive, please help
[11:00] <mrDaniel> juggernaut1980: you can use apt-get to install new packages OR you can use synaptic
[11:00] <kaur> my swap partition doesn't get remounted after hibernation. What should i do?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> the only difference is, that the one is under console and the other has a GUI
[11:00] <juggernaut1980> is synaptic GUI?
[11:00] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: you need the skge module for your gigabit to work.
[11:00] <mrDaniel> yes
[11:00] <mrDaniel> the pont is
[11:00] <arnducky> you can just chain the commands together "sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" to update you're whole system
[11:00] <juggernaut1980> do i have it?
[11:00] <mrDaniel> in the background synaptic is using the apt-get-library
[11:01] <Bassetts> anyone?
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> its actually using the dpkg functions.
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> apt-get, synaptic, and aptitude are all front-ends to dpkg.
[11:01] <mrDaniel> also: apt-get and synaptic have the same functionality, the difference is only the 'look&feel', the one is e console-program and the other has a GUI
[11:01] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: what do you see in your system logs when you plugin your usb drive?
[11:02] <mrDaniel> fyrestrtr: are you sure?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> mrDaniel: :)
[11:02] <arnducky> oooh -- aptitude pretty ncurse + minesweeper +++
[11:02] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, how do i look?
[11:02] <arnducky> =oD
[11:02] <juggernaut1980> how is that different from gnome-app-install?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: type tail -f /var/log/messages -- then plugin your usb drive, and watch the screen.
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> juggernaut1980: more options.
[11:02] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, my main HD goes all weird when i plug the usb in
[11:02] <Farhan> ok. I have a problem, i have a pretty weird situation here i bet someone could help me with.
[11:02] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: hmmm thanks but where I can find this module?
[11:02] <fyrestrtr> Bassetts: "all weird" doesn't help. What does it do exactly.
[11:03] <mrDaniel> under 'man synaptic' you can read it
[11:03] <fyrestrtr> marcin_ant: in the kernel configuration menu, under Device Drivers > Networking
[11:03] <zugu> hello all
[11:03] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, normally it is name 40GB Volume, i put the usb in and its called 40.0 GB Volume: /tmp/disks-conf-sda1
[11:03] <arnducky> juggernaut1980, I highly recommend you look on your start-button --> System
[11:04] <TheH> after runing sudo nvidia *** enable I'm getting this error: Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:04] <TheH> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[11:04] <TheH> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[11:04] <TheH> command:
[11:04] <TheH> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum
[11:04] <TheH> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[11:04] <TheH> from nv to nvidia.
[11:04] <arnducky> oh, and only one program can use the repository cache at a time
[11:04] <fyrestrtr> TheH: learn to use a pastebin please.
[11:04] <arnducky> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:05] <magnuso> Hi all, i had 2 soundcards installed but removed one, but the removed one is still in some settings, is there a way to reset all soundsettings and let ubuntu install them again like when you intalled ubuntu ?
[11:05] <TheH> oh ok sorry I'm new here
[11:05] <TheH> Thanks!
[11:05] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, nothing comes up when i plug the usb drive in, but i plugged it in before i did that command, unplugged then did the command and plugged it in, shall i restart then do the command then plug it in?
[11:05] <nox-Hand> is it uk or gb as keyboard layout in england?
[11:05] <arnducky> magnuso look in /proc/asound/
[11:05] <magnuso> will do that thx
[11:06] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: I cannot see this driver :(
[11:06] <juggernaut1980> brb
[11:06] <Farhan> hmmm is there a way to play multiple sounds with ou a multichannel card like a soundcard on a laptop.
[11:06] <Farhan> out
[11:06] <Bassetts> fyrestrtr, http://rafb.net/paste/results/vVcDGi57.html thats all it says
[11:06] <marcin_ant> fyrestrtr: maybe I need some kind of patch... dunno
[11:06] <zugu> question: if I burn files containing japanese characters in the filenames on a CD, will I be able to copy them in Windows afterwards? Is the CDFS filesystem able to support Unicode characters? I am very concerned about not being able to copy the files in Windows afterwards.
[11:06] <arnducky> magnuso past up the ls -l (you should have a ~/card0/ and a ~/card1/ in there)
[11:07] <arnducky> err, actually maybe installing whatever package gave him alsa or oss might work too: anyone?
[11:08] <Farhan> i use a screenreader right, and it uses software speech and if i wana listen to music i can't use my computer/laptopat the same time.
[11:08] <nox-Hand> is it uk or gb as keyboard layout in england?
[11:08] <arnducky> magnuso, I was going to suggest that you edit all references to the second card out then HUP the soundserver... but
[11:09] <Farhan> i don't have a second card
[11:09] <Farhan> i only have one. its some intel intergraded audio strange thing
[11:09] <magnuso> seems only to have card0 so maybe its finaly gone now, but the mic still dont work on the remaining audigy2 card :(
[11:09] <magnuso> i thought maybe it was becuase i had 2 cards that it didnt install corectly when i isntalled ubuntu
[11:09] <arnducky> lotsa subdirectories to go through that way -- try asking crimsun when you see him -- he's the leet expert here when it comes to sound
[11:10] <Farhan> I don't think anyone cdan help me with this...
[11:10] <Farhan> can
[11:10] <arnducky> magnuso, what modules do you have?
[11:11] <magnuso> snd_emu10k1
[11:11] <magnuso> if that make sense :)
[11:11] <arnducky> cat /proc/asound/modules > pastebin.file
[11:11] <Lewis> Hello, I cannot login to my Ubuntu PC, I type my usernamr and password in, and hit enter, but then a blank screen appears. What should I do to resolve this issue?
[11:12] <fredl> Lewis, hit CTRL-ALT-F1 and try to login in the terminal window
[11:12] <arnducky> emu10k1 is the monolithic SBLive! driver (that's the designation of the chipset/MPU on live cards)
[11:12] <fredl> Lewis, does that work?
[11:12] <ISOLATEDViRuS> i have this glitch and im not sure how to fix it
[11:12] <Lewis> I now have the terminal window on my screen
[11:13] <fredl> Lewis, you have a prompt?
[11:13] <arnducky> gedit ~/pastebin.file and copypaste it to the pastebin URL
[11:13] <Lewis> Yes
[11:13] <magnuso> arnducky, only "0 snd_emu10k1" is that the right one for audigy2 also ? all seems to work well beside i can recode or use skype with it :(
[11:13] <silent_scream> how can i control application with lirc?? i just installed and configured it and it works. but how can i contol i.e. gnomeradio?
[11:13] <fredl> Lewis, try less .xsession-error and see if there's any meaningfull error messages towards the end (hit shift-G to go to the end)
[11:13] <fredl> uhm, less .xsession-errors
[11:13] <arnducky> magnuso, if it's working what are you trying to do??
[11:14] <Lewis> so what do I type in? .xsession-errors?
[11:14] <Overand> arnducky: he can't record
[11:14] <Farhan> fredl
[11:14] <Arcad3> where can i fin xlibs deb file?
[11:14] <arnducky> setmixer - A commandline mixer
[11:14] <Arcad3> *find
[11:14] <TheH> well I'm getting Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[11:14] <TheH>  after runing sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:14] <Farhan> Lewis
[11:15] <Farhan> are you logged in?
[11:15] <magnuso> arnducky, ya all works beside the mic input, oki ill try to find setmixer
[11:15] <Lewis> Yes
[11:15] <arnducky> let's review, you can't record but ytou can use Skype?
[11:15] <Arcad3> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:15] <fredl> Lewis, less .xsession-errors
[11:15] <Arcad3> and choose nvidia
[11:15] <TheH> ok thx so much!
[11:15] <magnuso> arnducky, no no skype either
[11:15] <Farhan> try sudo apt-get update and if that works try  apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:16] <Farhan> and it might fix your issues
[11:16] <arnducky> Arcad1 dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:16] <Lewis> Ok, i did what you said, now what?
[11:16] <eXistenZ> What does 'rm -rf /' do?
[11:16] <Farhan> did apt-get update scan lists and such?
[11:16] <Farhan> rmrf removes files that you select
[11:16] <Farhan> for example: rmrf blablah removes it the folder. blablah
[11:16] <youby> edubuntu Vs ubuntu -  Is it basically the same thing, with educational games pre-loaded, and a colorful look?
[11:17] <arnducky> eXistenZ, DON'T EVEN TYPE THAT IN HERE
[11:17] <silent_scream> what is the command for xmms to show english charakters?
[11:17] <eXistenZ> arnducky, eh, why?
[11:17] <Skarr> Gah.... I tried everything the tutorial is just tooo darn confusing! Isn't there any easier way to do it?!
[11:17] <Farhan> i think the rf part removes recursively downwords.
[11:17] <loz> hi, anyone here know about the ubuntu dapper repos for compiz, and the broken dependancy for csm?
[11:17] <arnducky> eXistenZ, it will recursively remove and force all directories from root on down the tree
[11:17] <k-man_> hello
[11:17] <eXistenZ> arnducky, everything? :O
[11:17] <k-man_> im having trouble burning the ubuntu image to a cd
[11:17] <arnducky> empty or not -- yes everything
[11:17] <Lewis> Farhan, I have typed that into the terminal and hit shift+G, now it says 'end' at that bottom. What should I dp from here?
[11:17] <Farhan> I hope you didn't do it, did you?
[11:18] <k-man_> cdrecord is complaining that its too big
[11:18] <magnuso> arnducky, i use alsa atm all settings for the mic input seems to be fine there i can hear myself but i cant find a "input device" in any software when i try to record
[11:18] <Farhan> what's shift g? do?
[11:18] <Farhan> Lewis
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Farhan, Lol, I did it
[11:18] <arnducky> eXistenZ, did someone tell you to do that??!
[11:18] <Farhan> you bad... no. bad.
[11:18] <Farhan> no no no
[11:18] <fredl> Lewis, see if there's any error messages on the screen that mean anything to you.
[11:18] <eXistenZ> Farhan, When I saw it I pressed ctrl + c
[11:18] <eXistenZ> It was deleting many files
[11:18] <Farhan> uhh
[11:18] <eXistenZ> I just pressed ctrl + c
[11:18] <Farhan> i wonder how you fix that...
[11:18] <fredl> eXistenZ, stop trolling.
[11:18] <Farhan> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <Farhan> maybe?
[11:19] <arnducky> magnuso,  -- you say yoy can hear yourself?
[11:19] <Lewis> fredl, I'm new to Ubuntu and dont understand anything onscreen
[11:19] <Farhan> ok...
[11:19] <Arcad3> TheH:now CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[11:19] <magnuso> arnducky, yes but i guess whats missing is a "device" that ubuntu can use to record somehow
[11:19] <fredl> Lewis, I kinda understood that already :)
[11:19] <k-man_> i get this error with cdrecord, write track data: error after 693098496 bytes
[11:19] <TeePOG> more probably, it's sudo reboot -n && <insert Ubuntu CD> && redo installation
[11:19] <k-man_> any ideas why?
[11:20] <Skarr> I THINK I FOUND IT
[11:20] <arnducky> magnuso, how are you hearing the sound -- what program are you using?
[11:20] <Lewis> Yeah, but what should I do from here if I dont understand anything onscreen?
[11:20] <Skarr> all i need now is to know how to install ndis
[11:20] <Farhan> hit control backspace?
[11:20] <Farhan> oops
[11:20] <Farhan> alt
[11:20] <Farhan> see if x comes back up
[11:20] <Skarr> NOOO
[11:20] <Skarr> BROKEN LINK
[11:20] <TheH> for what? reboot?
[11:20] <fredl> Lewis, for some reason your X session doesn't start up
[11:20] <Arcad3> yes
[11:20] <Farhan> oh... seird
[11:21] <silent_scream> what is the command for xmms to show english charakters?