[09:09] <kevindf> Hello, I'm attempting to setup Bind server and configuring the reverse zones now. I'd like to create a reverse zone for <IP_ADDRESS>, If i'm correct the file name has to be "db.50.168.192" and zone "50.168.192.in-addr.arpa" { right?
[10:49] <cluelessperson> is a server's ssl key supposed to be in raw format in a permissioned directory?
[11:59] <Rob__> should igb included in the default netboot moduels select in mkinitramfs?
[13:54] <dasjoe> jak2000: you can safely remove the "partner" line
[17:01] <NginUS> Is there a standard for where file paths should be on github-built apps? I had Icecast2 installed gfrom the repo, but needed to install a new version for royalty payment automation. Now I dunno where to put my config file or where to point the paths in it.
[17:07] <devster31> what's this line do in .profile ERM=${TERM:-cons25}
[17:07] <devster31> ?
[17:40] <devster31> NginUS no, no standard, but it's usually documented in the wiki or readme from the apps, also, you can try going through the Makefile and see what operation the make install does, and revert them, sometimes there's a make uninstall too
[18:02] <NginUS> devster31: thx
[18:57] <med_> utlemming, OpenStack Summiting this week or just regular wfh week?
[19:07] <Rob__> so my nfs timeout problems were solvedy moving my server closer, not sure how I feel about htat
[19:08] <root____1> hello?
[19:08] <Rob__> yo
[19:08] <Rob__> btw, irc as root = bad
[19:08] <root____1> noob. Would you mind telling me how to change that?
[19:09] <Rob__> you ircing from the terminal?
[19:09] <Rob__> if so don't do it from inside your sudo session
[19:09] <root____1> yea
[19:09] <root____1> ok
[19:09] <root____1> exit
[19:09] <root____1> oops
[19:10] <jack_> ok
[19:10] <jack_> this is better
[19:10] <Rob__> yup
[19:10] <jack_> now, my problem.
[19:12] <jack_> I have an old hp mediasmart server that corrupt. I took out and recovered the data and put ubuntu as a server back on the mediasmart server. It worked on a temporary machine, but now I'm getting squat.
[19:12] <jack_> Would you know anything about that or where else I could ask?
[19:13] <Rob__> your ognna need to be more specific
[19:16] <jack_> ex475 mediasmart server, ubuntu 14.04, on the temp machine, I was able to connect to a web server running on it through its local ip, but still didn't work on the mediasmart server. Then I tried editing the network interfaces, adding auto eth0 didn't help either.
[19:18] <jack_> on the mediasmart server, both the power and internet lights are nice and blue, but the health light is blinking and the led that should indicate the hard drive is not on
[23:05] <TheShagg> Hello all, I am looking for guidance building a custom kernel that I can run on Amazon AWS EC2
[23:09] <devster31> check their referenec? i believe they have the specs you need, as for the actual building I'd go buildroot
[23:12] <TheShagg> devster31: Well, I know that every distro has to enable things their own way
[23:13] <TheShagg> It's one part packaging everything up for EC2, and one part building the correct way


[09:58] <evanton> I am following this http://librelist.com/browser//cville/2010/2/9/migrate-repository-bzr-to-git/ and bzr fast-export failed with unknown command error, is there a problem with my bzr install?
[10:04] <evanton> hmm, googling shows this is a bzr plugin, I probably shall investigate that deeper
[18:08] <AuroraBorealis> what does this "bzr: error: paramiki.sshexception: lost ssh-agent" error mean :<
[20:05]  * jelmer waves


[03:59] <Sarvatt> RAOF: can you shove libvdpau1-drivers-mesa into universe?
[03:59] <Sarvatt> its like libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental, dont want it to be supported in any way because its known to be broken (especially on nouveau)
[04:00] <Sarvatt> i asked on #ubuntu-release but it was accepted into main
[04:06] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I... don't think I can, actually.
[04:06] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Or, at least, I'm not sure how to.
[04:07] <Sarvatt> oh no worries, thought you could because its a mesa package
[04:08] <RAOF> Nah; I'm not an archive admin.
[04:09] <Sarvatt> it probably doesnt matter anyway, people will still install it when they read a website telling them to and file bugs when it doesnt work :P
[04:09] <RAOF> I'd know how to do it if I were accepting it from the queue, but I don't know how to do it post-acceptance.
[04:09] <Sarvatt> when flash stops working
[04:09] <RAOF> Heh.
[04:09] <RAOF> Still totally broken for flash?
[04:21] <Sarvatt> on nouveau yeah, it needs firmware extracted and is still screwed up with that which is why mlankhorst didnt want to turn it on, but amd complained because it "works" there :)
[04:27] <Sarvatt> by "works" i mean it advertised mpeg2 support that didnt work until a few weeks ago
[04:27] <Sarvatt> RAOF: also, miss you in the other channel :)


[00:35] <oops> after mistakenly configuring "sudoers" , i quit from root users , then i can't enter the root user account , how to fix it
[00:42] <wxl> you have no sudo user?
[00:43] <wxl> and i assume you did nothing to enable root?
[00:43] <wxl> if so, your best bet is to use a live image, mount the file system, and fix it up
 @oops [<oops> after mistakenly configuring "sudoers" , i quit from root users , then i …], rw init=/bin/bash in grub, and you have a root shell, change sudoers file, and reboot
[01:05] <oops> wxl: i am very curious that the "sudoers" recover automatically after rebooting the system ,
[01:05] <oops> how to activate the root user ,
[01:20] <wxl> oops: i would advise against it in general https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:30] <oops> wxl: i noticed the "sudoers" which are normal are the usb's sudoers file, the lubuntu live usb hasn't rescure option , if i start with pc's own system , i can't copy usb's "sudoers" to overwrite the system's "sudoers" owning no privilege , the other hand , i use usb's system , i can't find the hard disk 's "sudoers"
[01:31] <wxl> oops: just do what @N0um3n0 suggested. it's easier.
[01:48] <zarcos1> buenas nuches alguie en linea para poder comentar y pedir ayuda conrespecto a lubuntu 20.04
[06:33] <al_nz1> Hi All
[06:34] <al_nz1> What does Lubuntu 18 use for networking?
[06:34] <al_nz1> I cant seem to set a static IP
[06:55] <guiverc> al_nz1, there is no Lubuntu 18, Lubuntu is a desktop release so is yy.mm format; Lubuntu 18.04 uses network-manager-gnome https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lubuntu-desktop
[06:57] <al_nz1> Hi guiverc
[06:57] <al_nz1> it looks differnet this end
[06:57] <al_nz1> though kinda similar to your link
[06:57] <al_nz1> but no amount of changing the networkin the GUI results in a change in ifconfig
[06:59] <guiverc> You mentioned 18, are you using a snap only based release (eg. Ubuntu Core 18) or a desktop (Lubuntu 18.04), or server install (18.04); server installs don't use NM by default so if it wasn't a Lubuntu install you may not have all desktop config (ie. switched to NM)
[06:59] <al_nz1> Lubuntu18.04
[06:59] <al_nz1> how would I check
[07:01] <al_nz1> https://imgur.com/a/iMmYdyi
[07:03] <guiverc> you screen shows yourself in netplan (setting IP addresses for a server install) ... Ubuntu desktop & Lubuntu desktop use Network Manager not netplan
[07:04] <guiverc> that was purely by $PWD or your directory.. no configs were visible
[07:05] <guiverc> al_nz1, this may help you better, note: I don't know what you've done
[07:05] <guiverc> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[07:08] <al_nz1> uname -a a says Linux Ubuntu 4.15.0-123-generic
[07:08] <al_nz1> not server
[07:09] <guiverc> al_nz1, it would say the same on both Ubuntu Desktop & Ubuntu Server.. they have the same base  (with differences on top, netplan for server networking, network manager for desktop..)
[07:11] <guiverc> If it was me, I'd click Edit Connections on the network manager icon on the panel, go to IPv4 (or IPv6) change to manual, then set whatever you want/need... it's how I've done it on my 18.04 box here
[07:15]  * guiverc can't find a good online guide sorry; I see a number of gnome which is roughly the same, but windows look different
[07:27] <oops> after my screen locked , i can't open it any more , it's only a background and a cursor ,the cursor can move artilary
[07:28] <guiverc> oops, providing release details is helpful (are you using Lubuntu, logged into Lubuntu session or something else?)
[07:29] <oops> Linux oops-Latitude-D520 5.4.0-42-generic #46~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 10 07:09:27 UTC 2020 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:30] <guiverc> that's kernel info, doesn't help much with telling me what you're using (I can guess for sure, but best if I'm told rather than risk a wrong/unhelpful guess that may make things worse)
[07:31] <oops> i can't understand the last statement meaning
[07:32] <guiverc> What OS & release are you running?
[07:32] <oops> i use lubuntu on my 32 bit obsolete pc
[07:32] <guiverc> uname provides details of kernel, not of OS.  5.4 kernel is used by a number of options; my guess is you're on a 18.04, but it's still best if I'm told that as it's also used by 20.04
[07:32] <guiverc> :) thanks
[07:35] <guiverc> you were logged into lubuntu session (not openbox; it acts like what you're describing)
[07:36] <guiverc> I just logged into openbox (18.04), if I right-click I get a menu of a few options... you don't get that do you?
[07:37] <oops_> the quality of my net isn't well
[07:41] <guiverc> oops, does ctrl+alt+T open a terminal?
[07:43] <oops> yes,
[07:43] <guiverc> try `lxpanelctl restart`   which may restart your panel
[07:45] <oops> everything is still original
[07:45] <oops> i added sudo with 'lxpanelctl restart'
[07:46] <oops> i noticed the bottom panel flash once when i type that command
 Can't change preferred font size for every program. How does that work?
[09:13] <guiverc> @Fairnandes, https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.2/appearance.html will show changing the LXQt desktop font size..  As I understand it, programs can decide if they follow their own standard, or another standard. KDE apps tend to follow KDE/Qt standards, GNOME apps tend to follow GTK standards.. so nothing catches "every" program
 The thing is that this doesn't have any effect on the actual font size of any application
[10:25] <RyuKurisu[m]> Hello everyone, I've switched from Ubuntu Budgie 20.10 (which I had updated from 20.04) to Lubuntu 20.10 (fresh install).  I like how snappy it is compared to Budgie, but I've hit a snag in my workflow.
[10:25] <RyuKurisu[m]> Budgie was able to rotate by itself until I installed Anbox on 20.10 and rebooted at some point.  But does any know by any chance what software was used to enable that?  Another workaround for me would be to know which incantation 'monitor settings' uses to rotate the display, so I can script it and bind it to a key combination?  Because if I use xrandr it elongates my PDFs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[10:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> * Hello everyone, I've switched from Ubuntu Budgie 20.10 (which I had updated from 20.04) to Lubuntu 20.10 (fresh install).  I like how snappy it is compared to Budgie, but I've hit a snag in my workflow.
[10:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> Budgie was able to rotate by itself until I installed Anbox on 20.10 and rebooted at some point.  But does anybody know by any chance what software was used to enable that?  Another workaround for me would be to know which incantation 'monitor settings' uses to rotate the display, so I can script it and bind it to a key combination?  Because if I use xrandr it elongates my PDFs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:08] <guiverc> Please don't repeat your question... (at least not so often).  You can rotate screens via Monitor.Settings https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.10/monitor_settings.html ; I don't understand the "rotote by itself"
[11:13] <guiverc> `lxqt-config-monitor --help-all` provides clues on what options exist; if you've setup your screens already you can restore to a prior session, RyuKurisu[m]
[11:29] <RyuKurisu[m]> <guiverc "Please don't repeat your questio"> I didn't repeat, but that may have seemed like it to you because I made a small correction in Element.
[11:30] <RyuKurisu[m]> <guiverc "`lxqt-config-monitor --help-all`"> Thanks, I can probably incorporate that command to a script with keybindings as a workaround! 😃
[13:30] <Hrafnagudh> Hello
[13:37] <RyuKurisu[m]> <Hrafnagudh "Hello"> Hi
[14:28] <cool_skeleton_95> <RyuKurisu[m] "Hi"> Hello
[16:34] <RyuKurisu[m]> <guiverc "`lxqt-config-monitor --help-all`"> Hmm, I've checked the options mentioned in that command, but it only mentioned altering windows, not monitors or desktops.
[16:36] <kiwi_16> hi there
[16:37] <kiwi_16> how can I edit the settings of that password check, that appears when I resume from hibernation?
[16:38] <kiwi_16> and when I choose "dont ask me for my password on startup" could this sensibly be interpreted with "dont ask me for my password, when I come from hibernation/suspend either"
[16:39] <kiwi_16> I see no configuration tool, sddm is the display manager while it does not seem like it and there is no way to configure it or documentation
[16:40] <RyuKurisu[m]> <kiwi_16 "and when I choose "dont ask me f"> Sensibly I agree with not asking for a password on startup would also be for coming from resume/hibernation
[17:28] <RyuKurisu[m]> <kiwi_16 "I see no configuration tool, sdd"> Isn't it xscreensaver?
[18:14] <Darktroll87> is anybody here?
[18:22] <wxl[m]> Maybe, maybe not but your question won't get answered if you don't ask it 😄
[18:30] <Maik> wxl[m]: already gone but.. lol... true though :D
[19:23] <john_rambo> i have successfully paired my bluetooth headset ... it was playing fine before I installed updates ..Now despite pairing there is no sound ...how to fix this ?
[19:23] <john_rambo> 20.04
[19:27] <wxl> john_rambo: i will say this: bluetooth sucks. that has been my experience in general (not restricted to lubuntu or a particular version). sometimes it takes restarting the bluetooth daemon and/or removing the profile for the device and re-pairing. i've yet to find a consistent process.
[19:51] <sacarde> hi
[20:03] <tomreyn> hi sacarde
[20:04] <sacarde> in I have to run a command at start I have to put it into  ~/.config/autostart
[20:05] <sacarde> but if I have to run command at stop of lxde?
[20:08] <wxl> sacarde: no such mechanism really in any GUI exists because there's no XDG specification for "autostop" but something like this should work https://askubuntu.com/questions/293312/execute-a-script-upon-logout-reboot-shutdown-in-ubuntu
[20:36] <sacarde> when lxde is stopping, it kill all windows and task with windows
[20:37] <sacarde> I whould like to stop my app before lxde kill all windows
[20:41] <sacarde> "To log out from the session you can run the command lxsession-logout"
[20:43] <wxl> why not just write a script that does whatever you want to do and then calls the logout command and use that script to logout?
[21:07] <kiwi_16> RyuKurisu[m] And who decides this?
[21:15] <RyuKurisu[m]> <kiwi_16 "RyuKurisu And who decides this?"> This is about the 'no login prompt' issue?  That is more of a developer thing.  wxl will probably know where you can make the feature request/bug report 🙂
[21:18] <wxl> what's the context here?
[23:04] <guiverc> RyuKurisu[m], I assumed you'd use --session, grabbing session name from Monitor.Settings->Settings (and list of saved.settings; you can rename so it's not as date oriented); I'm using hirsute but I'd expect it similiar; didn't confirm it's there in groovy
[23:30] <eric> coucou le monde !


[11:28] <Guest4620> hello
[11:28] <Guest4620> Why am I guest?
[11:28] <Guest4620> brb
[11:29] <gzoo> hello
[14:37] <Ddorda> gzoo, hey there
[15:18] <gzoo> Ddorda, hello Dor, it's Amir
[15:19] <Ddorda> yea, i can tell
[16:26] <gzoo> Ddorda, oh right, everyone sees that
[16:26] <gzoo> I forgot
[16:26] <gzoo> I have to go, maybe I'll log in at home


[09:49] <Max0815> hey, short question. Is it possible to read a value for a key of a cloud-config file from a different file? Like I want to read ssh_authorized_keys from a file rather than specifying it in the cloud-config file.
[09:51] <Max0815> would be nice to reuse the code. If I want to put my cloud-config file under version control I obviously don't want to put stuff like passwords under version control.
[10:03] <Max0815> So far I guess using a template, putting that under version control and generating the cloud-init dynamically will solve my use case.
[10:07] <tribaal> Max0815: that is one option. Another option depending on your use case could be to execute an aribtrary command during cloud-init that will do the thing you need (read from a remote list of authorized keys or whatever).
[10:13] <Max0815> tribaal: thx, didn't think about that. However, creating a template looks a bit easier. If I were to retrieve data from a remote I would need to provide a mechanism to access the remote in the cloud init.
[10:14] <tribaal> oh yes, of course it entirely depends on your use case :)
[13:35] <ananke> what's the easiest way to tell which cloud-init module is still running? I have cloud-init status showing 'running', but I can't figure out what's not finished
[13:37] <blackboxsw> ananke: cloud-init status --long. or check for stages that have no start and stop time in /run/cloud-init/status.json
[13:37] <blackboxsw> I bet it's something to the with something introducing a systemd dependency chain issue. (that's what typically blocks cloud-init from finishing
[13:37] <ananke> interesting: DataSourceEc2Local
[13:38] <blackboxsw> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/193714/generic-methodology-to-debug-ordering-cycles-in-systemd
[13:39] <ananke> so long story short, we're in the process of using packer & cloud-init to make new AMIs for our educational platform. we have stuff working on ubuntu 18.04, and took that over to kali. this appears to be the first hurdle to overcome
[13:41] <ananke> while the source kali has cloud-init, and looks like it sets up stuff as expected, it never finishes. we use '/usr/bin/cloud-init status --wait' as a stage in the build, to make sure things are up and running, but clearly something is waiting for AWS info
[14:17] <blackboxsw> today I learn about kali :) amanke if you grab /var/log/cloud-init.log it'd likely show you specifically what cloud-init is looping on `cloud-init analyze blame` may also give you some info. (though I can't recall if that doesn't help you if you are still in an unfinished state for cloud-init)
[18:28] <fredlef1> @rharper: I'm just circling back to PR-229
[18:29] <fredlef1> After reading your doc, I think a detail is escaping me.
[18:30] <Odd_Bloke> fredlef1: rharper is out until Monday, FYI, so commenting on the PR might be a better way to be sure to get a response.
[18:30] <fredlef1> good to know. Thanks
[19:39] <Odd_Bloke> A very small precursor to my Oracle work to sort the imports: https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/266
[19:43] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: approved, needs CI
[19:51] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks, landed.
[21:55] <blackboxsw> ok put up Focal to prioritize netplan above ENI rendering https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/267
[21:55] <blackboxsw> for Ubuntu


[00:51] <Whisky_> hello
[00:52] <Whisky_> I tried updating to the latest KDE in my Kubuntu 10.10.   It get's stuck half way while starting services or something and never actually gets past the Kubuntu boot splash.
[01:21] <yofel> Whisky_: if you can get to a shell with ctrl+alt+f2, login there, get a wired connection, fix the package management with 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' and 'sudo apt-get -f install' then finish the update with 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' - and finally make sure nothing got removed with 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[01:21] <yofel> if not, it's easiest to chroot from a live disk
[01:23] <yofel> trying to boot in resque mode might also help if you can get to a root shell
[01:23] <yofel> *rescue
[01:28] <Whisky_> I can get to shell with networking but can't get internet
[01:28] <Whisky_> why doesn't wireless work in shell?
[01:38] <thehawk> good evening all
[02:44] <muts> i am having problems with creating a custom kde menu structure, and autopopulating it with desktop files
[02:44] <muts> i used to be able to do this easily in kde 3.5
[02:44] <muts> but the same method does not seem to work for kde4
[02:44] <muts> and i cant find any docs about it
[02:44] <muts> any insight by anyone ?
[02:57] <iszak> I noticed KDE created dot directory files everywhere, how do I prevent this?
[03:53] <BentFranklin> How do I get Kubuntu to recognize 'European' and other characters?  For example, Bela Fleck has an accent over the e in Bela.  iTunes running from Windows displays it correctly.  Windows displays it correctly.  In Kubuntu, ls displays B?la Fleck.  In emacs dired it displays as B\202la Fleck.  Do I need Unicode or iso/latin or something like that?  What package do I install?
[04:20] <Matute> Hola
[04:44] <Riddell> BentFranklin: kde supports unicode universally
[07:51] <caixia>  how to configure pop up drop list menu by Alt+Space like right click on the top of Window ?
[07:54] <Daskreech> Change global shortcuts?
[07:56] <geekosopher> caixia: it is Alt+F3 by default
[08:00] <geekosopher> caixia: to change it, go to SystemSettings > Shortcuts&Gestures > GlobalKeyboardShortcuts > Select Kwin from the dropdown list > scroll down to Window Operations Menu
[08:01] <bvierra|l> hey guys, so I am new to kubuntu... been using linux for 13+ years now... Been using Windows (work req) or OSX for last 2-3 years as desktop... any good articles on customizing ubuntu?
[08:10] <Daskreech> bvierra|l: I suppose by that you mean Kubuntu :)
[08:10] <Daskreech> What would you like to customize?
[08:10] <bvierra|l> yea... missed that k :)
[08:10] <bvierra|l> not sure really, havent used *nix as a desktop in many years
[08:11] <bvierra|l> I figure there are many new things :)
[08:11] <caixia> geekosopher: thx
[08:12] <bvierra|l> ie the 'must' haves for desktops etc
[08:13] <geekosopher> bvierra|l: must haves would have already been installed ;)
[08:13] <bvierra|l> lol fair enough
[08:13] <geekosopher> apart from that, to tweak the looks, see kde-look.org
[08:14] <bvierra|l> any not must haves but really cool awesomnessly sweet things
[08:14] <bvierra|l> heh
[08:14] <bvierra|l> all I really do is web browsing / irc / web / perl development
[08:14] <geekosopher> it is anyways integrated into kde in many parts
[08:14] <bvierra|l> cool will look into it
[08:15] <bvierra|l> yea used kde with gentoo back in the day
[08:15] <bvierra|l> new company had a policy of windows only
[08:15] <geekosopher> bvierra|l: I use firefox for browsing
[08:15] <bvierra|l> finally got that restriction removed
[08:15] <bvierra|l> yea I use FF and Chrome
[08:16] <geekosopher> for irc, though there is Quassel for gui minded, I use irssi
[08:16] <bvierra|l> I am using Quassel :)
[08:16] <geekosopher> am not that much in to web or perl development
[08:16] <bvierra|l> and then pidgin
[08:16] <bvierra|l> Komodo for IDE
[08:16] <geekosopher> bvierra|l: pidgin is for gnome
[08:17] <Daskreech> bvierra|l: How did you get the restriction removed?
[08:17] <bvierra|l> Daskreech: got high enough up and made the change
[08:17] <Daskreech> lol
[08:17] <bvierra|l> when you run IT, you can decide what happens
[08:18] <Daskreech> The Obama strategy?
[08:18] <bvierra|l> haha
[08:18] <bvierra|l> I removed the restriction for the developers
[08:18] <bvierra|l> which only made sense, all of our servers are linux
[08:18] <Daskreech> I'd try that but Our company has a no Windows Policy and I don't have the motivation to change that
[08:18] <bvierra|l> so we used windows to run putty
[08:19] <Daskreech> I have an outside contract with smeone who has linux and unix server and a single Windows machine on the network for people  to login and run putty from
[08:19] <Daskreech> I find it highly amusing
[08:19] <bvierra|l> ok so stupid question, how do I install qtcurve themes?
[08:21] <Daskreech> http://maketecheasier.com/install-qtcurve-in-kde/2010/03/29
[08:23] <bvierra|l> awesome thanks
[08:24] <Daskreech> :)
[08:41] <Who> hello guys , i  am using ubuntu, i installed KDE yesterday but its 4.5.1 , is there any way to upgrade it ?
[08:42] <vyrgozunqk> Who: go to the kubuntu website, and click to the kde 4.6.1 realease news, there you'll see a link what repos to add and how to upgrade
[08:42] <Who> thanks !
[08:42] <vyrgozunqk> ;)
[08:49] <Who> the update is gonna take sometime now, again thanks
[08:52] <vyrgozunqk> mhm, go and drink a cup of coffe
[08:52] <vyrgozunqk> :P
[08:54] <Who> vyrgozunqk:  on that note, flash is not working when i boot into KDE, any fixes for that ?
[08:55] <vyrgozunqk> try reinstalling flash
[08:55] <vyrgozunqk> :)
[08:55] <Who> oh well can't do till the update finishes
[08:55] <Who> guess i should get a cup of coffee :)
[08:56] <vyrgozunqk> yep, i'm doing the same right now ;0
[09:22] <carsten> moin
[09:31] <tatie> hello, can someone help me pls. i can't seem to be able to read a CD. i switched it to another drive that can read it but then no porgramme can open it neither VLC nor Amarok. I have restricted extras installed.
[09:32] <tatie> CD seems to be working just fine in WinXP as well as in my car radio
[10:40] <tatie> hello, can someone help me pls. i can't seem to be able to read a CD. i switched it to another drive that can read it but then no porgramme can open it neither VLC nor Amarok. I have restricted extras installed.
[10:40] <tatie> CD seems to be working just fine in WinXP as well as in my car radio
[10:41] <tatie> hello, can someone help me pls. i can't seem to be able to read a CD. i switched it to another drive that can read it but then no porgramme can open it neither VLC nor Amarok. I have restricted extras installed.
[10:41] <tatie> CD seems to be working just fine in WinXP as well as in my car radio
[10:41] <tatie> hello again....
[11:28] <kubuntu> anyone alive?
[11:30] <hesoos> anyways the problem is that i cannot mount hdd, fs-fat32, while trying to mount it says 'cannot read superblock'
[11:31] <hesoos> is this fs problem or hdd and are there any ways to fix it?
[12:07] <marina> on this computer flash doesn't work. flashplugin-nonfree installed. what can be the problem?
[12:11] <Bauldrick> how can i 'reset' my kde desktop, toolbars etc... (i used to rm ~/.kde - but that doesn't seem to do it)
[12:19] <Martiini> Bauldrick, 'kquitapp plasma-desktop && old ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* && plasma-desktop &'
[12:19] <Bauldrick> many thanks Martiini
[12:19] <Martiini> I  was just told that yesterday
[12:19] <Martiini> ok
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:11] <tcpa252> Hello everyone
[13:11] <tcpa252> Could anyone help to fix corrupted? broken? icons in 10.10? Look at this pic http://www.ipix.lt/images/43451229.png
[13:12] <tcpa252> main menu icon, show desktop icon are broken... is it a bug?
[13:15] <Tm_T> tcpa252: seems like a cache issue or such
[13:15] <tcpa252> Tm_T: could you please tell me, how do i fix this?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> tcpa252, have you tried setting the icons in systemsettings/application appearance?
[13:18] <tcpa252> BluesKaj, no i haven't, sorry if i sound dumb - i'm kde newbie, how do i do this?
[13:18] <Tm_T> tcpa252: if toggling icon theme back and forth doesnt help, you can try removing /var/tmp/kdecache-$USER/icon-cache.kcache while logged out from the desktop
[13:19] <BluesKaj> tcpa252, kmenu/applications/settings/system settings/application appearance
[13:25] <tcpa252> Tm_T: installing a new icon pack and enabling it half fixed my problem
[13:25] <Tm_T> tcpa252: so you propably need to clean up your icon cache
[13:27] <tcpa252> Tm_T: so i should run 'sudo rm -Rf /var/tmp/kdecache-eduard/icon-cache.kcache' while at login screen from tty?
[13:51] <gedas> hey
[13:51] <gedas> is anyone here?
[13:52] <gedas> i have a question and would like to discuss an issue with kubuntu
[13:52] <james147> !ask | gedas
[13:53] <gedas> !ask how to access kdmrc file?
[13:53] <gedas> !ask kdmrc file?
[13:54] <james147> gedas: ^^ he ain't that smart :) and kdmrc is a text file, you open it with a text editor... its located at... umm, one sec
[13:54] <gedas> how to access kdmrc file? i try /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc but it tels me that access is denied
[13:54] <gedas> thank you james
[13:55] <james147> gedas: you need to be root to edit it, "kdesudo kate /etc/..." will let you eidt it
[13:55] <gedas> lets see
[13:57] <johannes_> james147: he only need root when he want to make changes
[13:58] <johannes_> oh i see you actually wrote it.. :D
[13:59] <james147> johannes_: yes, your write, i assumed since he got the access denied he was trying to write to it :)
[13:59] <james147> right ^^
[13:59] <gedas> ok i needed this for a deeper problem
[13:59] <james147> what problem
[13:59] <gedas> when machine goes to logout it does not come back
[13:59] <gedas> ive tried
[13:59] <gedas> changing terminat=true
[14:00] <gedas> but its already there
[14:00] <gedas> i enjoy kubuntu but this bothers me a bit
[14:01] <james147> gedas: "TerminateServer=true" << is in that file? (exactly as typed, with out the quotes?)
[14:02] <gedas> yep
[14:02] <Peace-> james147: ksnapshot have you picasa?
[14:03] <Peace-> james147: can't upload to picasa
[14:03] <Peace-> :8
[14:03] <james147> Peace-: i could with digikam, never tried with ksnapshot
[14:04] <Peace-> james147: could you try?
[14:05] <james147> gedas: can you pastebin that file?
[14:05] <james147> !pastebin | gedas
[14:05] <james147> Peace-: one sec
[14:05] <gedas> allright lets see
[14:06] <james147> Peace-: looks like the same upload util as digikam(kinda what i expected form kde ;D  )
[14:06] <gedas> !pastebin
[14:06] <Peace-> james147: well they use kipi pluigins?
[14:06] <Peace-> both
[14:07] <james147> probally
[14:07] <Peace-> well i know xD because i have compiled :S
[14:07] <Peace-> and made a deb
[14:08] <gedas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/579274/
[14:10] <james147> gedas: the terminalserver line is commented out (the # at the beginning of the line indicates that that line is a comment and should be ignoreed) delete the # and save
[14:12] <gedas> ok done
[14:12] <gedas> lets see
[14:15] <james147> Peace-: I seem to be having problems uploading as well :p
[14:16] <Peace-> james147: :P
[14:17] <james147> Peace-: what kde version?
[14:17] <Peace-> james147:  kde 4.6.1
[14:17] <Peace-> james147: natty :P
[14:18] <Peace-> james147: ksnapshot compiled , kipi plugin compiled
[14:18] <james147> Peace-: 4.6.1 as well... think it could be a regression?
[14:18] <Peace-> james147: i guess...so
[14:18] <james147> Peace-: hmm, works with digikam still
[14:18] <Peace-> james147: really
[14:18] <Peace-> i am trying right now
[14:19] <gedas> so it did not work i've got a black screen with '_' blinking and doing nothing
[14:20] <james147> gedas: i doupt it would have worked the first logout (since kdm hadent been restarted and so hadent read the config file yet)...
[14:20] <gedas> ok
[14:20] <james147> gedas: make sure kdm restarted then try logging out
[14:20] <gedas> i don't even want to try it now :D~
[14:20] <gedas> anyhow
[14:20] <gedas> lets see
[14:20] <james147> (which it probally did if you restarted or however yo got it to show again)
[14:21] <james147> Peace-: what error do you get when you try to upload?
[14:22] <luca__> hi I have trouble getting my realtek wlan card working in kubuntu, driver installed but nothing happens. can anyone help?
[14:23] <Peace-> james147: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/12/plasma-desktopKd1468.jpg
[14:23] <gedas> cool
[14:23] <gedas> james yhank you
[14:23] <Peace-> luca__: iwconfig in the terminal
[14:23] <james147> Peace-: yea, same
[14:23] <Peace-> james147: -..-
[14:23] <gedas> is this what you do?
[14:23] <gedas> or are you just a kind person?
[14:24] <Peace-> james147: i have fixed send to gwenview via compilin
[14:24] <luca__> "no wireless extensions" already tried
[14:24] <Peace-> james147: but picasa doens't work at all
[14:24] <james147> Peace-: hmm, if i save the image first i get "cannot open file"
[14:24] <Peace-> james147: hahahhaa
[14:25] <Peace-> james147: here there is hwo to make a deb from the git version http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/03/09/ksnapshot-send-to-doesnt-work/
[14:26]  * james147 is using arch linux atm ^^
[14:26] <Peace-> james147: :P
[14:27] <Peace-> james147: if it continue in this way i will try a compiling distro
[14:27] <Peace-> xD
[14:27] <james147> Peace-: i wouldnt ^^ I would go for something thats easy to compile in, but still has bianaries... compiling everything is a pain
[14:28] <Peace-> james147: ya
[14:28] <james147> ^^ thats one reason i switch to arch :p
[14:28] <Peace-> james147: did you note that truetype is not activated on kde?
[14:29] <Peace-> james147: i ahve turned on and wow
[14:29] <Peace-> i can read better
[14:29] <Peace-> now
[14:29] <james147> in system settings?
[14:29] <Peace-> james147: systemsettings
[14:30] <james147> ^^ has always looked on to me, and enabling it in syste settings seems to do nothing
[14:30] <Peace-> application appareance
[14:30] <james147> Peace-: ahh, disabling it however...   So seems to be on by default for me :p
[14:30] <Peace-> james147: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/12/plasma-desktopGV1468.jpg
[14:31] <Peace-> i ahve used rbg
[14:31] <james147> Peace-: yeah, didnt make any difference when i enabled it
[14:31] <Peace-> try the other
[14:31] <Peace-> bgr
[14:31] <Peace-> beacause depends from the screen
[14:32] <james147> bgr is uncommon as far as i know
[14:32] <Peace-> :) it may
[14:33] <james147> bah, i cant see a difference (yes i am restarting an applicaiton to check)
[14:33] <Peace-> james147: i change the value
[14:33] <Peace-> then i open the menu or dolphin
[14:33] <james147> i was restarting dolphin
[14:34] <BluesKaj> hmm, X froze while trying to resize a window , input devices , mouse &KB totally unresponsive,...still a few glitches , not sure whether it's kde or X .
[14:36] <BluesKaj> guess it's a friendly reminder about using a dev OS, natty alpha 3..otherwise it's very stable now , even amarok doesn't crash anymore
[14:36] <BluesKaj> :)
[14:37] <james147> BluesKaj: yeah, dont be fooled by stability in an alpha, it can always break on the next update horribly
[14:38]  * BluesKaj wishes there was a #kubuntu+1 chat
[14:38] <BluesKaj> those guys at #ubuntu+1 are very gnome-centric
[14:41] <james147> BluesKaj: like most of ubuntu
[14:41] <BluesKaj> I should start lobbying for a supported kubuntu+1 chat or something similar dedicated to kde users
[14:42] <james147> BluesKaj: the reason why they dont do that is because it would be empty
[14:42] <james147> ... or near enough to not be useful
[14:42] <BluesKaj> the kde chat isn't much help ..populated by those guys with the funny "hats" :)
[14:43] <BluesKaj> well, a few fans would be better than ppl who don't give a sh*t about kde
[14:44] <james147> BluesKaj: the problem is the few fans will be in #ubuntu+1 and will answer you if they are there
[14:44] <Peace-> BluesKaj: here is working nice
[14:47] <BluesKaj> james147, yeah that's the qualifier ."if they are there" . maybe they'd be in kubuntu+1 if it was supported by freenode
[14:49] <BluesKaj> I don't mean to sound resentful ,but I do feel a bit left out.
[14:50] <james147> BluesKaj: I think they are more likly to be in ubuntu+1, then kubuntu+1... even if it exists, just for the better support of the core utils
[14:50] <james147> the man problem beeing that there just isnt enough suport for kubuntu
[14:50] <james147> main
[14:52] <BluesKaj> james147, don't be offended , but I think if kubuntu+1 existed , then the core-utils supprort ppl would migrate anyway
[14:53] <james147> BluesKaj: i am no offended, just saying what I think :) and since most o the core utils are desktop indpendent then most of the suport would come from gnome users... thus they wont migrate
[14:54] <BluesKaj> then we should include development OSs here as well, without being sent to ubuntu+1
[14:59] <Daskreech> james147: then they should help with KDE in #ubuntu+1
[15:00] <james147> Daskreech: they do
[15:00] <james147> ... as much as any one can...
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, there is some but it's not very helpful. more like an afterthought IMO
[15:00] <Peace-> BluesKaj: have you tried ksnapshot ? and send to picasa?
[15:01] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i guess there is a bug
[15:01] <james147> Daskreech: there is a limitation to what you can make volunteers do ^^ and since all these channels are mostly run by volunteers there is not much that can be done :(
[15:01] <BluesKaj> no, Peace- , I just rebooted
[15:01] <Peace-> BluesKaj: bad man :P
[15:02] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I couldn't take a snapshot , mouse & KB wre frozen
[15:02] <Peace-> ah...
[15:02] <Peace-> xD
[15:02] <Peace-> nice
[15:06] <Raydiation> hi im looking for the kde 4.6 wallpaper in the biggest resolution possible?
[15:06] <logost> Hey guys after a fresh install I am unable to login to the gui. It attempts to load and returns me to the login screen. Any suggestions or reinstall?
[15:06] <Raydiation> 1080p would be fine too
[15:08] <james147> logost: if its a completly fresh install then a reinstall is probally simplest... i would check the disk first though
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Raydiation, I'm running 1920x1080 with a default wallpaper downloaded in "desktop settings" , there are lots .
[15:08] <Raydiation> BluesKaj: yes im running gnome
[15:09] <Raydiation> and id like to use the wallpaper
[15:09] <james147> logost: and I assume you have a clean profile as well (ie, you didnt use an old home partition?)
[15:09] <Raydiation> couldnt find it on google
[15:09] <logost> james147: no i kept the home
[15:09] <Raydiation> at least not the version which is in 4.6
[15:09] <james147> logost: then try creating a new user
[15:09] <james147> and test a clea profile
[15:09] <scb> Raydiation: /usr/share/wallpapers
[15:09] <james147> clean
[15:10] <Raydiation> scb: looked through that
[15:10] <bchris> bonjour,  ya des french ?
[15:10] <Raydiation> only find wallpapers til 4.4
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Raydiation, right click on the desktop choose desktop settings , not sure if that works in gnome
[15:10] <Raydiation> BluesKaj: yes, i need the picture
[15:10] <Raydiation> not the setting
[15:10] <james147> !fr | bchris
[15:11] <Raydiation> scb: could you upload it for me? i guess its called horus
[15:11] <BluesKaj> that' where you find the "picture", Raydiation
[15:11] <scb> Raydiation: Sure, hold on.
[15:11] <Raydiation> ty
[15:12] <bchris> thank you james147...
[15:13] <james147> Raydiation: install "kdewallpapers" taht should contain the kde wallpapers
[15:13] <scb> Raydiation: Uploading. My up rate is kind of slow so this might take a few.
[15:13] <Raydiation> scb: ty np
[15:13] <Raydiation> scb: gotta change the wallpaper on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/inet/index.php:)
[15:14] <Raydiation> scb: gotta change the wallpaper on http://<IP_ADDRESS>/inet/index.php  :)
[15:14] <BluesKaj> scb, whynot just give him the url
[15:14] <scb> BluesKaj: ?
[15:15] <james147> Raydiation: why not install kdewallpapers ^^ then you should always have the latest one :)
[15:16] <Raydiation> james147: did that, unfortunately i cant find it
[15:16]  * Raydiation is using arch linux
[15:16] <BluesKaj> scb, the address of the wallpaper source
[15:16] <james147> Raydiation: then kdeartwork-wallpapers
[15:16] <scb> BluesKaj: god knows where is that. Have you tried surfing KDE's page? clusterfuck.
[15:16] <Raydiation> james147: yeah i installed that package
[15:16] <Raydiation> wallpaper isnt there^^
[15:17] <BluesKaj> laguage | scb
[15:17] <james147> hmm
[15:17] <scb> Raydiation: did you try doing a locate wall* | less
[15:17] <BluesKaj> language | scb
[15:17] <scb> BluesKaj: chill.
[15:17] <scb> Point: accross.
[15:17] <BluesKaj> scb, good
[15:18] <scb> Raydiation: apparently it already uploaded. waiting for the url :/
[15:18] <Raydiation> scb: find / | grep wall | grep jpg  returns only the /usr/share/wallpaper path
[15:18] <scb> remove the last jpg.
[15:18] <Raydiation> then it spits out way too much
[15:19] <scb> Fine, try png.
[15:19] <Raydiation> tried png too, no luck
[15:20] <scb> Raydiation: http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4687/1920x1200x.png
[15:21] <Raydiation> scb: thanks a lot :)
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Raydiation, is this it ? http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=15515
[15:21] <Raydiation> BluesKaj: no, http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4687/1920x1200x.png
[15:22] <BluesKaj> that's the kde 4.6 splash
[15:23] <BluesKaj> or login rather
[15:23] <Raydiation> login is the same as standard wallpaper
[15:24] <werjh> EVERYONE IN THIS CHANNEL WHO IS READY FOR WRESTLEMANIA  GIVE ME A FUCK YEAH!
[15:27] <ubuntu_> hi
[15:28]  * BluesKaj doesn't recall the kde 4.6 std wallpaper, I use this.http://opendesktop.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=133720&file1=133720-1.JPG&file2=&file3=&name=Mountain+Fog
[15:31]  * scb doesn't use a wallpaper.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> http://imagebin.org/142546  simple and uncluttered desktop
[15:38] <BluesKaj> I used to have icons all over the desktop, but using the panel is far simpler and more accessible
[15:39] <scb> http://i.imgur.com/eHGg9.png i had it with kwin a few weeks a go and moved completely to xmonad. I still run a full blown kde desktop just because the apps and integration is superb.
[15:44] <BluesKaj> looks kinda purist almost , scb  :)
[15:45] <Kange> LEAVE
[15:47] <flipor111> ??
[15:47] <scb> He probably meant /leave.
[15:47] <scb> BluesKaj: heh. If that's what it takes for a decent dual screen support and window management, so be it :-)
[15:50]  * BluesKaj doesn't use dual screens . our plasma monitor subs as a tv and pc monitor
[16:09] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: Granted you can normally hang out in #kubuntu-devel for any advanced KDE help if you can avoid the fervor to start packaging :)
[16:12] <Daskreech> Raydiation: Did you try to look at the KDE code?
[16:12] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, I don't think I'm ready for #kubuntu-devel , that's probly somewhat over my head at this point in mt linux learning curve :)
[16:12] <BluesKaj> my
[16:12] <BluesKaj> anyway time to clear the driveway again , BBL
[16:14] <Daskreech> ha ha :)
[16:14] <Daskreech>  schnow?
[16:56] <fanti> hello! i just installed a meverick on a lenovo thinkpad w500 (ati hd 3650) with radeon driver. all works fine so far but i can't enable desktop effects on kde (direct rendering is enabled!)
[16:56] <fanti> i also have NO xorg.conf ...
[16:57] <Peace-> fanti: xrender?
[16:58] <fanti> Peace-: libxrender1 is already the newest version.
[16:59] <fanti> do i need to enable composite somewhere?
[16:59] <Peace-> fanti: nope man i mean system settings
[16:59] <Peace-> instead to select opengl
[16:59] <Peace-> select xrender
[17:00] <Peace-> fanti: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/12/plasma-desktopbv1468.jpg
[17:02] <fanti> Peace-: uhm i can't. in the "general"-tab it says "desktop effects are not available on this system"
[17:03] <fanti> Peace-: http://fanti.staff.spin.de/desktopeffects.png
[17:07] <Peace-> fanti: wait a moment
[17:07] <fanti> k
[17:08] <Peace-> fanti: xorg.conf can be done , system will read it
[17:08] <Peace-> fanti: try to read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1646311
[17:08] <fanti> Peace-: thanks
[17:10] <Nata> fanti, you may install call what qt-graphic... component, it enable us easy setting xrender or opengl in system settings
[17:12] <rork> fanti: what also might help is edit .kde/share/config/kwinrc and under [compositing] change: CheckIsSafe=true & DisableChecks=true if I remember correctly, that fixed it for me once.
[17:15] <fanti> x restart.... brb
[17:23] <finomod> How do I know which command is used for a particular kde app, so I can use it through commandline
[17:25] <finomod> I mean, how do I find commands like kate / nano for some other application.
[17:34] <DarthFrog> finomod: When the app is running, click on the "Help" button and select "About <appname>".
[17:36] <DarthFrog> Or, from the command line, type "ps auxww | less", which will show you everything running on your system.
[17:38] <finomod> DarthFrog: Thank you so much.
[17:40] <DarthFrog> Also, for a graphical interaction, run "ksysguard", which will also show you what's running.
[17:58] <Pranav_rcmas> I'd like to know how to get Qt 4.7.2, without having to build from source. Assistance please?
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Pranav_rcmas,  Qt <IP_ADDRESS> is available in the repos/package manager, look for libqt4
[18:04] <Hutley> exist to the Kubuntu something like ubuntu-tweak?
[18:18] <rork> Hutley: check System Settings, you can also install ubuntu-tweak but gnome specific settings won't work. What do you want to change? Maybe someone can tell you the right way/application
[18:19] <Hutley> rork: I want set to package manager remove the downloaded packages after install them
[18:24] <rork> Hutley: Unfortunately I don't know how to set that.
[18:25] <Hutley> rork: ok. thanks anyway.
[18:47] <thekimjj> im trying to view some videos here :  http://flash.atlas.illinois.edu/video.html?src=/mcc/mcc-v-2009-1/01Welcome&player=SDNC     ,    but flash player from adobe cant do it  :  Shockwave Flash 10.2 r152    , on kubuntu 10.10 , what could be the issue?
[18:51] <Daskreech> Hutley: What did you want Ubuntu-tweak to do?
[18:51] <BluesKaj> thekimjj, did you click on reload the page
[18:52] <thekimjj> Blueskal: yup, i did
[18:52] <thekimjj> *Blueskaj
[18:53] <BluesKaj> thekimjj, I think the video on that page is corrupted , flash crashes for me as well
[18:54] <thekimjj> Blueskajj:  oh so its not just me?  the problem then isnt with my flash installation .
[18:55] <BluesKaj> thekimjj, I got it to work a second time ,
[18:56] <BluesKaj> refreashed the page and flash loaded the video ok'
[18:56] <Peace-> BluesKaj: kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare
[18:56] <thekimjj> Blueskaj: how did u get it to work?   what version of flash? and is it on 32 or 64 os?
[18:56] <Peace-> BluesKaj: work for you?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Peace-, yes worked for after the 2nd try
[18:57] <BluesKaj> me
[18:57] <BluesKaj> 32bit natty here on FF4
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Peace-, kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare ?"
[18:58] <thekimjj> Blueskajj: it crashed for one of my  friends laptop running fedora 13,  32-bit ,  did you simply reload the page or close it and open the url again?
[18:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: yes
[18:59] <Peace-> BluesKaj: shoul run the shell for samba
[18:59] <Peace-> but doesn't works here
[18:59] <Peace-> bha
[19:00] <Peace-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork/+bug/347179
[19:01] <BluesKaj> peaxe I have samba working , but I don't like using it to connect to our windows pcs ..the files transfer speed is much slower than using smb/cifs , which I was using in maverick
[19:01] <BluesKaj> err Peace- ^
[19:08] <Hutley_> Daskreech: i use the ubuntu-tweak to remove packages downloaded after his instalations and remove old kernels too...
[19:08] <Daskreech> Hutley_: It will work
[19:09] <Hutley_> I know but, if there is any KDE native would be better.
[19:11] <Peace-> sudo apt-get install ausadfasdfasd ; sudo apt-get clean ?
[19:11] <Peace-> xD
[19:11] <Daskreech> Hutley_: if you are just removing his packages then apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove will do the same thign
[19:11] <Hutley_> Daskreech: ok. thanks
[19:12] <Daskreech> Hutley_: you can probably drop it as a cron job or a post-inst script so it runs every night/week or right after every installation
[19:13] <Hutley_> cron job? I will search about it.
[19:13] <BluesKaj> yeah , apt-get clean and autoremove are commands I use after application upgrades
[19:15] <Daskreech> !cron
[19:16] <BluesKaj> altho i prefer aptitude , probly out of sheer habit more than anything and cuz I have the commands aliased due to my laziness :)
[19:17] <Hutley_> Daskreech: great! Thanks again!
[19:17] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: damn linux and it's catering to laziness?
[19:18] <Daskreech> Hutley_: Sure enjoy.
[19:19] <Daskreech> !search kcron
[19:19] <Daskreech> !info kcron
[19:19] <Daskreech> Oh sweet :)
[19:19] <Daskreech> Hutley_: ^^^6
[19:21] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, yeah, catering to laziness is a benefit in my book :)
[19:22] <Daskreech> BluesKaj: very much so
[19:23] <Daskreech> but I still think one of the things I really dislike with linux is how well it caters to that
[19:23] <Daskreech> it's crippling
[19:26] <BluesKaj> Daskreech, well. I'm old so it's better than the constant ongoing fight keeping windows safe.
[19:26] <Daskreech> Oh well it's wonderful for old peopl :)
[19:27] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Have you ever read any Robert Heinlein?  Remember the story about the truly lazy man?  That describes Unix admins and developers. :-)
[19:29] <Daskreech> But you can customize your computer so much and it carries it from upgrade to upgrade so seamlessly that you can really forget what the long path is
[19:29] <Daskreech> You go to another computer and argh I don't know how to use this!! where are the shortcuts?
[19:30] <Daskreech> Then the men come to put you in white coat so you will stop crying in the corner of the room and cursing Ritchie for coming up with UNIX
[19:31] <Daskreech> or was that a little too specific >_>
[19:31] <BluesKaj> Robert Heinlein, now there's a blast from the past.,I can remember seeing his stuff in libraries , but I can't recall if I ever read any of his books
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: Dennis Ritchie is the father of the C language.  Ken Thompson is the father of Unix.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> ahhh yes .. Stranger in a Strange Land... grok!
[19:34] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Whoops that's correct :)
[20:17] <Drknzz> Hi guys! How can i bind the Windows//Meta key to the KMenu?
[20:17] <siniestro> hola
[20:18] <Drknzz> !es | siniestro
[20:22] <Walzmyn> Drknzz: far as I know, a single-key shortcut is not possible in KDE
[20:22] <Drknzz> Walzmyn: Oh... sad.... maybe i can code a Keyboard-hook in C++ and fire the Kmenu myself?
[20:23] <Walzmyn> I have no idea
[20:23] <Walzmyn> after getting used to krunner, I almost took the kmenu off my workspeace
[20:27] <Drknzz> Walzmyn: KRunner?
[20:27] <Walzmyn> alt+F2
[20:27] <Walzmyn> single greatest invention of the GUI desktop
[20:28] <Walzmyn> That and being able to hit alt+left click to move a window are the two things I miss the most when I am forced into Winders
[20:30] <Drknzz> Walzmyn: Ah
[20:30] <Drknzz> Thats extremely handy
[20:30] <Drknzz> :)
[20:30] <Walzmyn> very
[20:31] <Walzmyn> if you're new to it, it'll do spell checking and act as a calcultor too
[20:32] <Drknzz> Wow
[20:40] <tsimpson> Drknzz: the problem is that in windows the Win is a completely independent key, like most other keys. but in Linux it's a modifier key, like shift or ctrl, so it's used to modify another key
[20:40] <tsimpson> usually though the menu is bound to Alt-F1
[20:40] <Drknzz> tsimpson: Oh! Didnt know that
[20:41] <Drknzz> I wonder if the QT/Linux API has keyboard hooks and it also has a function to open the KMenu
[20:42] <KimLaroux> tsimpson, how do you define "indipendent key"? From my experience, the windows key is a modifier; it has many shortcuts like Win+L which locks the screen
[20:43] <tsimpson> KimLaroux: windows key press event system is different from the X key press event system
[20:44] <tsimpson> windows generally waits for you to release the win key before it knows what to do, if you press another key before you released the win key, it does something else
[20:44] <tsimpson> but it doesn't actually modify the behaviour of the second key, it's just 2 keys that happen to be pressed at the same time
[20:45] <KimLaroux> so the difference is in the background... but from a user's perspective, it's just the same as ctrl or atl
[20:46] <tsimpson> yeah, windows just deals with the win key specifically, while in linux it's just another key you happen to have on your keyboard
[20:47] <KimLaroux> is it used in KDE? I still haven't found a combination that does something
[20:48] <james147> KimLaroux: amarok uses afew
[20:49] <tsimpson> it's usually not something apps use, as not everyone has a "win" key
[20:49] <tsimpson> specifically macs don'
[20:49] <tsimpson> t
[20:58] <KimLaroux> OOooh I see, in the Settings the Windows key is used just like Ctrl and Alt, it's named the "Meta" key
[20:58] <KimLaroux> Interresting
[21:22] <Drknzz> Hi! Anyone here develops QT4 Apps? Im having issues with Qmake, the makefiles it generates wotn work
[21:25] <Drknzz> Dismiss my message, i had put the file as a .C file, making it main.cpp worked
[22:03] <digirak> i would like to install kubuntu on a seperate paritition
[22:03] <digirak> i have an up and running ubuntu on one partition
[22:04] <javier_> hola
[22:05] <digirak> ping anyone here
[22:05] <javier_> tengo un problema quiero entrar a las particiones de mi disco y me sale Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure
[22:05] <javier_> alquien me puede ayudar?
[22:06] <Pici> !br
[22:18] <digirak> ping
[22:34] <bvierra|l> hey anyone know of a desktop widget that is a terminal?
[22:35] <james147> bvierra|l: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Plasmacon?content=108120
[22:36] <bvierra|l> cool was just looking at that one :)
[22:42] <roque> kk'[
[22:42] <bvierra|l> hmm do you know if there is a way to resize the widgets?
[22:44] <james147> bvierra|l: click and drag the resize handel that appears when you mouse over it
[22:44] <james147> (not the entire bar... but the icon that represents resizing
[22:45] <bvierra|l> perfect thanks :)
[22:45] <bvierra|l> yea took me a nin to figure it out
[22:59] <eulenspiegel_> what ever you want
[23:09] <scripted> :)