[07:28] <crimsun> pestilence: Edgy is definitely frozen, and unless the bugfix is non-invasive and fixes an absolutely critical issue, we likely will not consider it til post-release.
[07:28] <pestilence> tonyyarusso, my responses are screwy, i think i ate something bad.
[07:28] <Em3rald> (and it runs better with 256 by FAR)
[07:28] <poningru> Yourname: didnt you just say it shows up in networking?
[07:28] <nwbreneman> crimsun: still not working
[07:28] <lando> i just flashed the bios and have tried every configuration and nothing
[07:28] <crimsun> nwbreneman: what did you adjust in aumix?
[07:28] <poningru> !wifi
[07:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <Jbirk> My ubuntu has problems
[07:28] <Jbirk> I hangs on thermal
[07:28] <Jbirk> any ideas?
[07:28] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i just turned all of the volumes up
[07:29] <Em3rald> lando:  Wacky.   I'm getting the error 'No rule to make `cdemu.ko`, needed by `modules`.'
[07:29] <Yourname> poningru: But only after installing driverloader :(
[07:29] <lando> live
[07:29] <GerManson> do you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?
[07:29] <Em3rald> lando:  and you don't get the menu at all?
[07:29] <matkam> Hello, I am trying to compile something using boost, and I need to know whatversion of gcc was used to compile boost since i am having some linking errors. Is there any way to find this information out?
[07:29] <poningru> Yourname: its a prism2 usb right?
[07:29] <Yourname> poningru: Yup.
[07:30] <Yourname> poningru: Or so I think.
[07:30] <Em3rald> lando:  another side note ... on that machine, you might find xubuntu runs smoother.  It's better for "legacy" machines
[07:30] <poningru> whats the model number of your usb device?
[07:30] <crimsun> nwbreneman: can you take a screenshot of it?
[07:30] <lando> im not sure what u mean by the menu
[07:30] <pestilence> crimsun, ok...the bug is for a package in universe anyways (whereami)...i guess not too many people use it, because it's a showstopper
[07:30] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i guess i could. where do I upload it?
[07:31] <Yourname> poningru: Dlink DWL-G122 Rev A2
[07:31] <lando> it doesnt boot to the cd but when i put in the cd while in windows it gives me a menu but to check out the software in ubuntu
[07:31] <Em3rald> lando:  when ya slap the CD in the drive, do you get a menu asking you if you want to boot the Ubuntu live CD etc etc.
[07:31] <Em3rald> lando gotcha
[07:31] <GerManson> do you know ay app that organices your music in folders like iTunes does?
[07:31] <poningru> Yourname: hmm hold on
[07:31] <Yourname> poningru: Thanks dude!
[07:31] <pestilence> GerManson, amarok
[07:31] <ink251> Rythmbox, comes with ubuntu
[07:31] <crimsun> nwbreneman: choose a pastebin that allows uploading jpegs
[07:32] <poningru> Yourname: ok you should be able to use it now actually... did you try configuring it?
[07:32] <GerManson> pestilence: nope!! ... i mean.. moving files, changin files names.. etc.
[07:32] <crimsun> pestilence: have you filed a bug on it?
[07:32] <Em3rald> lando:  I am not entirely sure where to go from here, except to tell you to try either 1.  the alternate install CD, or 2. Xubuntu; otherwise, I would blame it on your BIOS settings not looking for the CDROM first at boot time.
[07:32] <nwbreneman> crimsun: heh, uh, I just realized I don't know how to take a screenshot with x/ubuntu
[07:32] <pestilence> crimsun, i just discovered it when i upgraded to edgy 1 hour ago.  i will file a bug.  and i think i have a fix, but i have to kill network to try it
[07:32] <Yourname> poningru: Even with WPA2? And do you mean out of the box, on a fresh install? On a fresh install it never showed up in Networking untill I installed Driverloader. :(
[07:32] <logankoester> anyone know how to get cdemu?
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: ok on fresh install it should not have detected it...
[07:33] <pestilence> crimsun, basically, he used bash syntax but specified /bin/sh
[07:33] <AsheD> are there any commandline mp3 taggers that support id3v2 AND use an ISO charset?
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: the correct method was to install linux-wlan-ng
[07:33] <lando> well thanks anyways Em3rald. if it doesn't work i think i might kick it out the window
[07:33] <poningru> Yourname: sudo apt-get install linux-wlan-ng
[07:33] <poningru> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/prism2_usb
[07:33] <Em3rald> lando:  that's horrible :/ :D
[07:34] <Che-Anarch> Would it be fair to say the Open Source in most cases (as far as end-user is concerned) is free (of cost)?
[07:34] <crimsun> nwbreneman: import(1)
[07:34] <Yourname> poningru: After a fresh install, that's what I need to get to make it work right away?
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> Che-Anarch: It can be, but doesn't have to be.
[07:34] <lando> heh yea its a box for my pops and i wanted him to have a linux box to play and learn with. oh well
[07:34] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  as a very general statement, I would say a cautious "yes"
[07:34] <poningru> Yourname: yep
[07:34] <Yourname> poningru: WOW, thanks so much dude. You've been one guy who actually explained it properly.
[07:34] <crimsun> pestilence: yes, please file a bug. bashisms should be straightforward and no-brainers to admit.
[07:34] <poningru> just install the package linux-wlan-ng
[07:34] <Che-Anarch> I am taking this with reference to the majority of things out there for Linux as a whole (baring in mind Repos)
[07:34] <poningru> yep np
[07:35] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  In the context of most thing Ubuntu, yes.
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> Che-Anarch: Would be happy to discuss more in #ubuntu-offtopic; see what you're getting at.
[07:35] <pestilence> crimsun, ok, will do.  and will brb if it works.
[07:35] <poningru> Yourname: it seems though you cannot use it with wpa
[07:35] <nwbreneman> crimsun: I'm still new to some aspects of ubuntu. I figured import was a terminal command, so I ran it, but bash doesn't recognize it
[07:35] <poningru> you can use it with wep though
[07:35] <Yourname> poningru: So, on a fresh install, I i get that package, and then it shows up in Networking, and then what do I need to do to connect to WPA?
[07:35] <Yourname> poningru: My grandad uses WEP :P
[07:35] <Che-Anarch> I was already there no one to discuse with   :-p
[07:35] <crimsun> nwbreneman: it's part of the 'imagemagick' package.
[07:35] <tnnc> ?join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:35] <nwbreneman> crimsun: I'll install that then
[07:35] <Em3rald> Che-Anarch:  I am going there now :D
[07:35] <poningru> Yourname: unfortunately that driver doesnt allow usage of wpa :(
[07:36] <Yourname> poningru: I know.. :( So how do I do it?
[07:37] <poningru> Yourname: doesnt seem like you can
[07:37] <poningru> but hold on still looking
[07:37] <nwbreneman> crimsun: okay, I installed and used the command import, but it says it's missing an image name
[07:37] <nwbreneman> crimsun: nevermind, read the manual file
[07:37] <Yourname> poningru: Well, according to what I saw.. I'd need to mess around a little with wpa_supplicant.
[07:38] <Yourname> poningru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo -> What do you think?
[07:38] <pestilence> crimsun, yes, that fixed it.  filing a bug as we speak
[07:38] <crimsun> pestilence: thanks.
[07:39] <poningru> Yourname: hold on
[07:39] <Jbirk> How do I troubleshoot ubuntu on a machine that  won't boot?
[07:40] <poningru> Yourname: ah here we go
[07:40] <poningru> so non-usb prism can do wap
[07:40] <pestilence> crimsun, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/whereami/+bug/67499
[07:40] <nwbreneman> crimsun: how do I find a pastebin that will take jpgs?
[07:40] <poningru> for usb its still being worked on
[07:40] <Yourname> poningru: There you go, you helped me 7 times. I helped you once.
[07:40] <crimsun> nwbreneman: Web search :)
[07:40] <poningru> ;)
[07:40] <Yourname> poningru: But.. but, mine is a USB adapter! lol
[07:41] <poningru> yeah I know :(
[07:41] <poningru> !java
[07:41] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> can someone save? my brainds just failed :| whats the command to remove services from init.d?
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo $command apmd and it removes it
[07:41] <pestilence> Kamping_Kaiser, update-rc.d
[07:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> yay. *hugs pestilence *
[07:41] <poningru> ...
[07:42] <nwbreneman> crimsun: i have no idea what to look for
[07:42] <Yourname> poningru: So you think it won't work? :(
[07:42] <crimsun> pestilence: unfortunately the correct fix is really to fix the bashism. I'll look at it in a few hours.
[07:42] <poningru> Yourname: if it worked using driverloader then I would say you should try to use that instead of the 'official' method
[07:43] <Yourname> poningru: The only thing is, the driver works. The only problem is making it connect to a WPA network.
[07:43] <pestilence> crimsun, that's true.  but i'm not familiar enough with correct syntax for /bin/sh to fix it myself.
[07:43] <Em3rald> is there an official "supported hardware list"?
[07:43] <crimsun> nwbreneman: "pastebin jpg attachment"
[07:44] <poningru> Yourname: any reason you are using wpa? wep is plenty secure if you use big enough password
[07:44] <Yourname> poningru: Because 16 other connectors use WPA2 :S
[07:44] <poningru> sorry dude :(
[07:44] <Yourname> It's all good man. No worries.
[07:44] <Yourname> You helped me enough.
[07:44] <Yourname> Thanks a lot, doing a fresh install now.
[07:45] <nwbreneman> crimsun: here, i just uploaded it to my server. www.influenceme.net/screenshot.jpg
[07:45] <Yourname> Okie dokie, g'night mate.
[07:46] <poningru> nn
[07:46] <Hooveyy> Hey guys
[07:46] <Hooveyy> Can someone tell me what "sudo rw -r /" would do?
[07:46] <po0f> Nothing?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> rw isn't a command.
[07:46] <crimsun> thankfully not what you intend. :)
[07:47] <ArrenLex> You mean rm.
[07:47] <nwbreneman> heh
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Which would delete your entire filesystem.
[07:47] <ArrenLex> this = bad.
[07:47] <Hooveyy> I ran rm -r / under root
[07:47] <Hooveyy> By accident
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Good job!
[07:47] <Hooveyy> How do I fix it?
[07:47] <Hooveyy> GRUB wont load
[07:47] <DBO> you dont
[07:47] <Hooveyy> ;(
[07:47] <DBO> its gone
[07:47] <ArrenLex> By reinstalling.
[07:47] <pestilence> Hooveyy, with your carefully executed backup, of course
[07:47] <ArrenLex> How did you manage to run that command by accident?
[07:47] <crimsun> nwbreneman: ah, try increasing IGain
[07:48] <Hooveyy> I was pissing around in terminal with sudo su
[07:48] <Hooveyy> so I was logged in as root
[07:48] <Hooveyy> And I wanted to see what it did
[07:48] <DBO> Hooveyy, thats a bad idea...
[07:48] <Hooveyy> So I ran it,
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Well, now you know to use the bathroom rather than the terminal, don't you.
[07:48] <Hooveyy> And like, nothing would work
[07:48] <DBO> Hooveyy, its gone... sorry man
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Hooveyy: yeah, that's kind of what happens when you delete all files.
[07:48] <crimsun> nwbreneman: sorry, have to take a phone call now.
[07:48] <po0f> I'll actually try that later tonight, hehe.
[07:48] <Hooveyy> how was i supposed to know what rm - r / does!?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Do you know that rm is 'remove'?
[07:49] <ArrenLex> And that / is the root filesystem?
[07:49] <DBO> Hooveyy, asking here would have been a good way to find out
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Isn't that enough information to tip you off?
[07:49] <utnubu> when i do gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf i get a msg saying authentication was rejected,
[07:49] <utnubu> what am i doing wrong
[07:49] <nwbreneman> crimsun: no problem. I need to go now anyway. I'll fiddle with it later. thanks immensely for your help!
[07:49] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[07:49] <pestilence> utnubu, you are looking in the mirror
[07:49] <Hooveyy> I know what / is
[07:49] <Hooveyy> >_>
[07:49] <Hooveyy> Grr, now I have to reinstall
[07:49] <utnubu> oh
[07:50] <pestilence> utnubu, are you entering in your password?
[07:50] <utnubu> i am trying to share home folders with read/write access has authentication
[07:50] <ArrenLex> If you were like "oh, let's run a command which includes 'remove' and 'all my filesystem' as the administrator and hope NOTHING BAD HAPPENS! :D" then I'm sorry, there's just nothing we can do to help ypu.
[07:50] <utnubu> it dosnt ask for it, and then where in the line should i add it
[07:50] <Hooveyy> No, I didn't know what rm did
[07:50] <Hooveyy> As always, I tried it
[07:50] <Hooveyy> I once did a command that would restart x every second
[07:51] <pestilence> utnubu, when you type gksudo gedit, it is supposed to ask for your password
[07:51] <Jbirk> ) Hooveyy: ;
[07:51] <utnubu> no it dosnt ask for a passwd or anything
[07:51] <Jbirk> ) Hooveyy: ; um you could use man
[07:51] <Jbirk> P.s. never test a command with sudo in front of it
[07:51] <sky123> hi guys...i asked on edubuntu site too..but im tftp/pxe booting a thin client and used the rom-tool to create an etherboot disk..and get a no BIOS32 detected message...can someone helpout??
[07:51] <Jbirk> or from the # prompt
[07:51] <utnubu> do i haft to be root to do it
[07:51] <sky123> is it the wrong driver??
[07:52] <Hooveyy> Okay I also need help with something
[07:52] <Hooveyy> You know how like
[07:52] <Hooveyy> It's supposed to show install a LAMP server in the boot menu thing
[07:52] <pestilence> utnubu, try "sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[07:52] <Hooveyy> Well mine doesn't show that
[07:52] <Hooveyy> how do I install the Ubuntu Server?
[07:53] <utnubu> ya nano worked thank you very much
[07:53] <nocti> anybody knows a good video converter that recognizes the different formats of avi and for wmv, dvd support too. thanks.
[07:54] <jdt> nocti - install the codecs using automatix
[07:55] <jonathanmathew01>  /msg NETID password
[07:56] <Hooveyy> I'll ask my question again,
[07:56] <jdt> nocti - automatix should help you with your vid codecs
[07:57] <Hooveyy> So, I try installing Ubuntu, and I want to install Ubuntu Server, so, it says there should be an option called "INSTALL LAMP SERVER", but on mine there isn't
[07:57] <Hooveyy> How would I install the Ubuntu Server?
[07:57] <jdt> Did you use the server iso?
[07:57] <Hooveyy> There isn't one :S
[07:57] <NewTrickster> yes there is.
[07:57] <Hooveyy> Link?
[07:58] <Hooveyy> The server download link links to the page with the main ISOs.
[07:58] <NewTrickster> On the main site
[07:58] <Hooveyy> It links to http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[07:58] <Hooveyy> Ohh
[07:58] <NewTrickster>  your options to download are:desktop, server and alternate
[07:58] <Hooveyy> Nevermind, found it :D
[07:58] <NewTrickster> you should have all three.
[07:58] <jdt> I have never installed the -server iso, but there is one in the download mirrors. it is ubuntu-version-server or desktop etc
[07:59] <Hooveyy> Yeah - downloading the ISO for the server now
[07:59] <Hooveyy> Thanks
[08:00] <jdt> anyway - LAMP should be Linux Apache MySQL and Python... hehe
[08:00] <NewTrickster> Are you trying to make a LAMP sever?
[08:00] <Hooveyy> Now I am, yes
[08:00] <NewTrickster> I'd start with server.
[08:00] <NewTrickster> I'm doing something similar; however , I'm using desktop and putting LAMP on that
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Why is the server ISO 432MB only?
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Also, can I order server CDs from ubuntu?
[08:01] <NewTrickster> so I can have the destop in place to do work on it.
[08:01] <jdt> server iso has less desktopy stuff
[08:01] <NewTrickster> None of the graphical apps,  I assume
[08:01] <rredd4> i read somewhere that there is not a much control with lamp as there is with the server install
[08:01] <Hooveyy> Heh, okay
[08:01] <Hooveyy> So I have to manually get X, etc?
[08:01] <cypher1_> how do i get the brightness controls in System->Preferences->Power Management
[08:02] <NewTrickster> yeah,  that's why I decieded on. the Desktop & LAMP path
[08:02] <jdt> your best bet would be to install the desktop version, then just use synaptic in gnome to select Apache, MySQL and PHP. then you will basically have a LAMP server (some config required)
[08:02] <NewTrickster> Otherwise you have to put Gnome on and all the apps that you want.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> jdt: no,
[08:03] <Hooveyy> I tried that
[08:03] <Hooveyy> MYSQL failed
[08:03] <Hooveyy> And 2 hours of googling, config-ing, and more didn't help.
[08:03] <NewTrickster> MYSQL fails often upon install in most OS's.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> Ah,
[08:03] <Hooveyy> Doesn't on Windows :p
[08:03] <NewTrickster> You have to work at getting it to work.
[08:03] <Hooveyy> the server ISO is 30% done anyways
[08:03] <Hooveyy> 800KB/S download rate
[08:04] <jdt> thus the - some config required statement :)  I am sure it is the same on server with LAMP option
[08:04] <NewTrickster>  I've made a WAMP server for a demo a couple of years ago and it worked just great.
[08:04] <po0f> From a server install, can't you just `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`?
[08:04] <Hooveyy> yes
[08:04] <Hooveyy> and it'll install gnome
[08:04] <Hooveyy> kubuntu-desktop installs kde, xubuntu-desktop installs xfce I think
[08:04] <Hooveyy> is there an edubuntu-desktop?
[08:05] <NewTrickster>  Hooveyy: Yes he is correct, but mine didn't work when I tried it.
[08:05] <manmadha> Hooveyy, ya it is easyubuntu
[08:05] <chuckyp> Don't use easyubuntu
[08:05] <Hooveyy> Why?
[08:05] <Hooveyy> :p
[08:05] <chuckyp> !easyubuntu
[08:05] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:05] <ZirJoker> hi everybody
[08:06] <rredd4> i install ubuntu-desktop.. getting slocate errors... cannot seem to fix..
[08:06] <ZirJoker> i wanna know if there is a command that allows me to download a file
[08:06] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, use at your own risk don't come crying here when it breaks stuff that you could have installed a lot easier with synaptic
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Whoa, that's so cool.
[08:06] <po0f> wget?
[08:06] <NewTrickster> I still think Desktop & LAMP is the best choice here, I have asked on some other boards and gotten the same response.
[08:06] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, wget
[08:06] <manmadha> ZirJoker, wget
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Wait, easyubuntu breaks things?
[08:06] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Boo.
[08:06] <ZirJoker> thx
[08:06] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, wget http://www.whatever.com/filetodownload
[08:06] <Hooveyy> Aptitude is so easy.
[08:06] <po0f> Hooveyy: Anything that goes behind your back to install stuff breaks things.  ;)
[08:06] <ZirJoker> thx
[08:07] <yakumo> hello
[08:07] <NewTrickster> Don't know about Easy, but desktop just didn't work well, mine was partially broke.
[08:07] <ANTDx1> hello everyone
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> How to install java?
[08:07] <yakumo> any idea what is this error all about?
[08:07] <yakumo> files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[08:07] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:07] <jdt> what version of java ???
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> new
[08:07] <jdt> sun java?
[08:07] <ANTDx1> I'm having some issues upgrading to 6.10
[08:07] <Vaske_Car> is there 2?
[08:08] <NewTrickster> Hooveyy:  Good Luck with your server,  I'm headed off to bed have to be in Chicago tomorrow.
[08:08] <jdt> yes, there are many variants - the default in ubuntu is blackdown
[08:08] <ANTDx1> Upgrading went fine, until I restarted.  My GUI no longer appears to be working.
[08:08] <chuckyp> ANTDx1, edgy support is in #ubuntu-1
[08:08] <Hooveyy> Thanks new,
[08:08] <manmadha> is there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....
[08:08] <Hooveyy> Have fun in chicago,
[08:08] <NewTrickster> NITE
[08:08] <chuckyp> ANTDx1, err #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> what should I install than? It ask for Mozilla that I need java...
[08:08] <jdt> Vaske_Car - what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:08] <ZirJoker> does anyone knows where can i get rapidly the "nexiuz" game?
[08:08] <ANTDx1> thank you, chuckyp
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> 6.06
[08:08] <AdamKili> my Windows key doesn't seem to do anything. how can i test that ubuntu even knows it's there?
[08:08] <Vaske_Car> updated
[08:08] <jonathanmathew01> has anyone ever converted an ATX power supply into a non-atx.. i have a dell pen3 that i am trying to make into a server but the old power supply went down, and the only thing i can get here is ATX
[08:08] <chuckyp> !info nexiuz
[08:09] <ubotu> Package nexiuz does not exist in any distro I know
[08:09] <Hooveyy> yay, 60% done for the ubuntu server cd.
[08:09] <rredd4> crimsun  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/    everything i tried does not work.. any ideas please
[08:09] <ginyip> hi everyone, I looking for help on fglrx issues. I am using 64bit ubuntu dapper. I use the newest ATI 8.29.6 driver for my ATI X1600 graphic card. Now my X can start, everything seem fine. BUT when I try to fglrxinfor / glxinfo | grep render, I see my graphic card X1600 show up and direct rendering = yes. but then my whole system freeze. I need to do a hard reset to reboot my system. Looking for help on this pls help
[08:09] <jdt> Vaske_Car: Check out www.getautomatix.com
[08:09] <manmadha> is there any advantage using FreeBsd for server administration .....
[08:09] <chuckyp> jonathanmathew01, You can still buy AT power supplies
[08:09] <chuckyp> !patience > manmadha
[08:09] <ZirJoker> as far as i know i can play it in my ubuntu isnt it true?
[08:10] <jdt> It is a great app to install some very useful apps for ubuntu. Including Sun Java 1.5 JRE and JDK.
[08:10] <jdt> It has versions for 6.06 and 6.10 - so make sure you pick the correct one
[08:10] <Vaske_Car> jdt, was just startd typing question about that software :)
[08:10] <chuckyp> No AUTOMATIX IS THE DEVIL
[08:10] <chuckyp> !automatix
[08:10] <ubotu> Automatix is an unsupported script that tries to automate the installation of some software. We don't provide support for it in the #ubuntu or #kubuntu channels, try #automatix thanks!
[08:10] <jdt> I have used it a lot - works very well :)
[08:11] <ZirJoker> xd
[08:11] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:11] <jdt> oops
[08:11] <ZirJoker> its for novices like me xD
[08:11] <jdt> :)
[08:11] <ZirJoker> dows anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu?
[08:11] <BHSPitLappy> easyubuntu is more widely accepted, and not thought of as evil, like automatix
[08:11] <Hooveyy> Automatix IS the devil.
[08:11] <AdamKili> how can i test if ubuntu knows my windows key is there? i want to assign the command 3ddesk to it
[08:11] <chuckyp> jdt, well I've seen it break a lot of stuff alos
[08:12] <jdt> automatix hasnt ever broken anything for me - and its certainly a fast way to get sun java installed.
[08:12] <Hooveyy> EasyUbuntu isn't so ..... system-borking.
[08:12] <chuckyp> Both easyubuntu and automatix are just bad ideas.
[08:12] <Hooveyy> Well, they're good for the world's biggest 5 year old noobs
[08:12] <ZirJoker> does anyone plays nexiuz in his ubuntu??
[08:12] <chuckyp> jdt, How do you figure ?  Its just a package either way?  I don't see the benefit?
[08:12] <Hooveyy> My friend booted into a Ubuntu LiveCD and went nuts because his window borders look different.
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, it does... it's called the Super Key, by the way
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> lol
[08:12] <BHSPitLappy> freak
[08:13] <manmadha> ZirJoker, ya i tried it but the game is strucking while playing
[08:13] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: how can i test? and in this guide i got it calls it Super_L
[08:13] <jdt> chuckyp: agreed - but for codecs, etc etc... its just a convenient 'get everything working' script. it is afterall just a script to a few extra repos at the end of the day
[08:13] <po0f> Which system-killer command should I use tonight?
[08:13] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, that makes sense, super left
[08:13] <manmadha> po0f, i think xkill
[08:14] <manmadha> po0f, try it
[08:14] <ZirJoker> manmadha where did you get it?
[08:14] <Hooveyy> server cd done downloading
[08:14] <chuckyp> jdt, codecs are a one line install for me  so I don't get it.
[08:14] <AdamKili> but i only have 1 win key so should i just leave off the _L?
[08:14] <manmadha> ZirJoker, google is u r friend man
[08:14] <jdt> provided you know where they are
[08:14] <po0f> No, I mean I want to kill my system.  I am going to do a reinstall ina  couple of hours.
[08:14] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, You can get it from their site Looks pretty cool i'm going to get it also
[08:14] <ZirJoker> xDDD
[08:14] <ZirJoker> nice nice
[08:14] <manmadha> po0f, oh sorry
[08:14] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[08:14] <DeusX> Hey guys. How do I use the fglrx for my ATI 7000 card ? Every time I do that my X crashes on boot, and cannot be loaded.
[08:14] <ZirJoker> manmadha do i need to compile it or something?
[08:14] <chuckyp> po0f, Why whats wrong with your system
[08:15] <manmadha> i think u r going to kill the process
[08:15] <nDi> What is hd(0,0), hd(0,1), hd(0,2), hd(1,1) .. how do i know, which one is for Windows XP ?
[08:15] <reverie> Hi guys.
[08:15] <po0f> FC5 is on it atm, going to reinstall Edgy.
[08:15] <reverie> Can someone help me with a problem with booting Edgy Eft RC1 ?
[08:15] <po0f> FC6 is taking to long to release.
[08:15] <po0f> s/to/too/
[08:15] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy i only have one windows key so should i leave off the _L?
[08:15] <manmadha> ZirJoker, ya just comple it ...to run the game just click on the icon....
[08:15] <chuckyp> reverie, edgy support is in #ubuntu+1
[08:15] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, doubtful.
[08:15] <DeusX> Someone else had my problem ?
[08:15] <ZirJoker> ok :P
[08:16] <chuckyp> manmadha, well compiling it won't install an icon
[08:16] <snoops> nDi, hd(drivechannel,partition).. so hd(0,0) is the first drive and the first partition on that drive
[08:16] <reverie> chuckyp, ah, ta ;)
[08:16] <BHSPitLappy> reverie, do you like Debussy?
[08:16] <ZirJoker> lets see if i can compile it xD im using ubuntu since past wednesday xDDD
[08:16] <snoops> go by the size of the partition to figure out which is which nDi
[08:16] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, compiling it won't create an icon for you.
[08:16] <reverie> BHSPitLappy, ha ha :P
[08:16] <ZirJoker> how do i create an icon for it?
[08:16] <ZirJoker> (sorry for my bad english)
[08:16] <manmadha> chuckyp, yaa I am saying that there is a file in the directory of the game
[08:17] <Hooveyy> why does installing ubuntu server take like 1 hour?
[08:17] <nDi> snoops drive channel, as in master/slave primary/secondary ?
[08:17] <Hooveyy> there's like 50 steps
[08:17] <Hooveyy> -_-
[08:17] <chuckyp> manmadha, any good?
[08:17] <manmadha> to open the game just click on it& select run in terminal
[08:17] <snoops> yep nDi
[08:17] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:17] <mehwoot> I need some help getting my nVidia drivers to work
[08:17] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: i guess i'll try _L and _R and see which works
[08:17] <ZirJoker> is there any comand to test my internet speed?
[08:18] <abc_austin> a
[08:18] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, the Right one may be the "menu" iconned one
[08:18] <manmadha> go to www.vcn.com
[08:18] <abc_austin> exit
[08:18] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, you just unzip it and launch the nexuiz-linux   file
[08:18] <nDi> snoops I have C: and D: (Both same HDD, different partition) .. so , C: = hd(0,0) and D: = hd(0,1) .. OR does it start with hd(0,1) ?
[08:18] <manmadha> ZirJoker, www.vcn.com/speedtest.php
[08:18] <ZirJoker> ok
[08:18] <ZirJoker> thx thx
[08:18] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:19] <ZirJoker> i love that everybody helps you when you have troubles o.o
[08:19] <Hooveyy> I love VMWare :)
[08:19] <reverie> Corporal_Dirge, haha, cool nick mate
[08:19] <manmadha> ZirJoker, just copy the user name & password given in that site
[08:19] <manmadha> as guest
[08:19] <Hooveyy> ZirJoker: Yeah, it confuses me alot though, 20 people rush in here at once asking questions like once every ten minutes :p
[08:19] <ZirJoker> xDDDDDD
[08:19] <po0f> Hooveyy: How hard is it to set up?
[08:20] <Hooveyy> It's not, it's like, just being slow.
[08:20] <jdt> vmware is pretty straight forward
[08:20] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[08:20] <Hooveyy> I muck around with it alot
[08:20] <Elvis2001> help
[08:20] <Hooveyy> That way it doesn't kill my PC
[08:20] <Hooveyy> Yes Elvis2001?
[08:20] <jdt> haha... run vmware the other way round - I keep my xp in it and run ubuntu most of the time.
[08:21] <jdt> only windows when I have too
[08:21] <Hooveyy> Haha :p
[08:21] <ZirJoker> anyother fps game you recommend??
[08:21] <Hooveyy> CS: S
[08:21] <Hooveyy> DOD: S?
[08:21] <nDi> snoops I have C: and D: (Both same HDD, different partition) .. so , C: = hd(0,0) and D: = hd(0,1) .. OR does it start with hd(0,1) ?
[08:21] <po0f> nDi: What's the problem?
[08:22] <snoops> it's 0 based.. so 0,0 are the first.. but windows drive letters c: and d: do not corolate to what drive channel they're on
[08:22] <Hooveyy> yay, done installing the server.
[08:22] <ZirJoker> anyother fps game you recommend??
[08:22] <ZirJoker> or not fps..
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Uh,
[08:23] <ZirJoker> just anyother game
[08:23] <ZirJoker> xD
[08:23] <ZirJoker> another*
[08:23] <Hooveyy> WoW, WC3, Guild Wars, COD2, Quake 4
[08:23] <Hooveyy> FEAR, Diablo 2?
[08:23] <ZirJoker> which of them are free?
[08:23] <po0f> StarCraft ftw.
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Well none
[08:23] <Himura> games are evil
[08:23] <ZirJoker> xDDDDD
[08:23] <ZirJoker> !games
[08:23] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:23] <Hooveyy> Games are addictive.
[08:24] <rredd4> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/  getting slocate errors, will not finish installing ubuntu-desktop... help!
[08:24] <sky123> does anyone have experience here with thin client for ubuntu??
[08:24] <Hooveyy> Cedega ftw!
[08:24] <ZirJoker> ftw?
[08:24] <Hooveyy> for the win.
[08:24] <ZirJoker> ooh
[08:24] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[08:25] <hintswen> can someone please help me downoad and install apache
[08:25] <ZirJoker> tremulous anyone has tried it?
[08:25] <Hooveyy> Holy crap, I'm about to have a seizure here.
[08:25] <DeusX> hintswen, aptitude install apache2 will do the job for ya
[08:26] <Hooveyy> I typed apt-get ubuntu-desktop and like, 900 things came up
[08:26] <amicrawle> does ubnutu have webmin in the src list at all
[08:26] <rredd4> Hooveyy  852 for me..
[08:26] <hintswen> DeusX, thanks. what about PHP and MySQL and other things. any easy way to download and install them?
[08:26] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, CUBE2
[08:26] <ZirJoker> :O
[08:26] <Hooveyy> What will sudo rm -Rf * do ?
[08:26] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, counter-strike
[08:26] <ZirJoker> instead of tremulous?
[08:27] <ink251> clear all unneeded files
[08:27] <ZirJoker> counter strike... no steam version?
[08:27] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, remove everything
[08:27] <DeusX> hintswen, yes. aptitude install php5 and aptitude install mysql-server-5.0
[08:27] <Hooveyy> Ah, okay
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, yeah
[08:27] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy: Super, Super_L, and Super_R don't work. but i tested <Control>a and it worked, so my windows key must not be recognised as Super_L/R
[08:27] <po0f> ink251: lol
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, I have steam installed
[08:27] <nDi> snoops i was just wondering, just incase I have to configure the grub or lilo manually.
[08:27] <ZirJoker> bet you have to pay to play steam installed
[08:27] <hintswen> wow, if i knew it was so simple i would have done it ages ago
[08:27] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, no free
[08:28] <ink251> you guys have any luck with steam on wine?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> no free, or not, free?
[08:28] <chuckyp> ZirJoker,  You can run steam with wine if you have an account.
[08:28] <hintswen> DeusX, they will autostart whenever the server starts up right?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> i dont
[08:28] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, It doesn't cost anything to run under linux however you have to buy counter-strike if you want to play counter-strike
[08:28] <ink251> it worked last time i installed it but this time around it crashes with some memory permission error
[08:28] <chuckyp> ink251, Yeah I have it working here fine
[08:28] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, you've tried the keyboard shortcuts preferences in GNOME, right?
[08:28] <ZirJoker> yes thats what im talking about
[08:28] <DeusX> hintswen, don't forget to do a aptitude install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql and a aptitude install php5-mysql to have MySQL support for PHP
[08:28] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts?
[08:29] <ink251> unreal99 works better on wine then on windows
[08:29] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, well you are looking for free games
[08:29] <DeusX> hintswen, yes, they will run on system startup.
[08:29] <ZirJoker> yes
[08:29] <chuckyp> ink251, unreal has linux versions on the cd
[08:29] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, my "windows key" is Super_L, according to that
[08:29] <hintswen> great XD
[08:29] <ink251> i have a copy a friend sent me
[08:29] <ink251> didnt bother with linux
[08:29] <ink251> version
[08:29] <chuckyp> ZirJoker, I just checked out cube today  its pretty neat fps dunno didn't get much of a chance to play a lot.  But www.cubeengine.com
[08:30] <dek> how do I delete console history?
[08:30] <ZirJoker> thx thx
[08:30] <DeusX> hintswen, this guide will give you more info:  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/index.html
[08:30] <Hooveyy> Does apt-get install ubuntu-desktop install X?
[08:30] <ink251> delete .bash_history
[08:30] <chuckyp> ink251, yeah the linux version will run an arseload faster than running the windows one through wine.
[08:30] <po0f> dek: rm ~/.bash_history
[08:30] <ink251> in your come folder
[08:30] <dek> thanks
[08:30] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy which shortcut is it under?
[08:30] <ink251> home
[08:30] <ink251> ill check it out
[08:30] <ink251> i love scrapetorrent.com
[08:31] <chuckyp> So does anyone actually play nexuiz?
[08:31] <chuckyp> Online that is
[08:31] <ZirJoker> ok ppl
[08:31] <ZirJoker> im gonna sleep
[08:31] <ZirJoker> im too tired
[08:31] <Hooveyy> cyaaa
[08:31] <ZirJoker> x_x
[08:31] <ZirJoker> thx for the gelp
[08:31] <ZirJoker> help*
[08:31] <ZirJoker> ciao!
[08:31] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, just pick one of the items, and hit your button
[08:32] <chuckyp> ink251, scrapetorrent has a server error
[08:32] <ink251> yeah the cat
[08:32] <dek> when I press Ctrl+Alt+F1, how do I come back? "startx"?
[08:32] <ink251> i had that for a second
[08:32] <ink251> it just started working again
[08:33] <po0f> dek: Alt+F7
[08:33] <ArrenLex> ink: ctrl+alt+f7.
[08:33] <po0f> Usually.
[08:33] <dek> so what does Ctrl+Alt+F1 do exactly?
[08:33] <ArrenLex> ink: x is usually on Virtual Terminal 7.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> Unless you disable some terms.
[08:33] <ArrenLex> dek: it switches you to the first virtual terminal.
[08:33] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy doesn't do anything
[08:33] <dek> :O
[08:33] <ArrenLex> dek: by default, ubuntu offers six command lines available to you.
[08:33] <po0f> From the terminal, you don't have to hit ctrl to vt-switch.
[08:34] <ink251> how would i go about having a different wallpaper for every virtual desktop
[08:34] <dek> ok
[08:34] <ArrenLex> po0f: no, but the consistency is nice. You only have to memorise one operation, not two.
[08:34] <chuckyp> ink251, each workspace you mean?
[08:34] <ink251> yeah
[08:34] <ink251> my bad
[08:34] <Hooveyy> http://hohle.net/scrap_post.php?post=23
[08:34] <Hooveyy> roflmao
[08:35] <po0f> ArrenLex: ctrl-alt-f7 hurts my hand, alt-f7 is a lot better.  :)
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> ink251, not sure if you can
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: then you have extremely gimpy hands. o_O
[08:35] <BHSPitLappy> but I'm no expert at gnome at all
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: OH! You're trying to do it one-handed!!
[08:35] <ArrenLex> No wonder.
[08:35] <po0f> ArrenLex: Yes,  ;)
[08:35] <Jay2> ink251: I don't think you can
[08:35] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy it doesn't do anything, so i guess linux doesn't recognize my super key?
[08:35] <ArrenLex> po0f: I won't even begin to ask what you need your other hand for when switching virtual terminals, as I don't want to know.
[08:35] <ink251> oh ok just a though
[08:35] <chuckyp> ink251, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69507
[08:35] <ink251> heh
[08:36] <chuckyp> Jay2, sure you can
[08:36] <BHSPitLappy> AdamKili, perhaps not?
[08:36] <po0f> ArrenLex: On my...  mouse.
[08:36] <Jay2> how, chuckyp
[08:36] <ArrenLex> po0f: why the hell do you need your mouse when switching to or from a command line interface?
[08:36] <ink251> chucky, thanks for the link
[08:36] <chuckyp> Jay2, there is software that does it like wallpapoz
[08:37] <ink251> what do you guys think of edgy, im using 6.06 right now, big changes?
[08:37] <po0f> ArrenLex: When switching back to X, I like to be ready to go, as I only go to the console to change something real quick most of the time.
[08:37] <Jay2> thanks, chuckyp
[08:37] <chuckyp> ink251, check out the edgy page they have the changes outlined
[08:37] <ArrenLex> po0f: on my machine at least, the time between pressing the keystrokes and X being up and running is greater than the time to move from keyboard to mouse.
[08:38] <chuckyp> ink251, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[08:38] <ArrenLex> About three times as great, actually.
[08:39] <po0f> ArrenLex: Sorry I try to keep my hand movements to a minimum.  :/
[08:39] <ArrenLex> (00:36:02) ArrenLex: po0f: then you have extremely gimpy hands. o_O
[08:39] <snoops> anyone? Adjusting screen brightness in ubuntu?
[08:39] <po0f> snoops: nvidia-settings?
[08:39] <snoops> po0f no brightness control in nvidia-settings
[08:40] <po0f> meh.
[08:40] <ArrenLex> po0f: hold on, wait. Are you telling me that you type in the terminal one-handed? Because if you don't, then you still have to move from keyboard to mouse anyway. Just earlier.
[08:41] <Hooveyy> ubuntu-desktop is dun installing, woot
[08:41] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, what hardware are you installing on?
[08:41] <Jbirk> did you install xserver-xorg?
[08:41] <Hooveyy> Uh,
[08:41] <po0f> ArrenLex: Like I said earlier, usually I just change something real quick, and want to get back to work right away.
[08:41] <upgrdman> what repo do i need to get w32codecs for mplayer?
[08:41] <Hooveyy> 3.4GHZ P4, 2GB RAM, 250GB HD, nVidia 6600GT
[08:42] <Hooveyy> In vmware, though
[08:42] <chuckyp> !info w32codecs
[08:42] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional.  You just stop being able to open new things.
[08:42] <chuckyp> !w32codecs > upgrdman
[08:42] <snoops> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. Unable to determine nmber of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0.'. Are some errors which are displayed when I open nvidia-settings from terminal po0f..any idea?
[08:42] <Jbirk> Hoovyy
[08:42] <Hooveyy> Arren: try rebooting though
[08:42] <Hooveyy> GRUB borks
[08:42] <AdamKili> BHSPitLappy any idea how to fix that?
[08:42] <chuckyp> Hooveyy, stop it.
[08:42] <Jbirk> sudo rm -rf /*
[08:43] <Hooveyy> Stop what?
[08:43] <po0f> Hooveyy: That's kinda the point in my case.
[08:43] <Jbirk> or just go into /
[08:43] <hintswen> dam, do i have to use port 80 for hosting a website?
[08:43] <Jbirk> and rm -rf*
[08:43] <Hooveyy> sudo rm -r / is better
[08:43] <po0f> I am reinstalling Edgy tonight.
[08:43] <Jbirk> f for force
[08:43] <ArrenLex> Hooveyy: well, of course, since you deleted everything.  Run it from the terminal.  Press your win key and watch the command line. It should tell you a KeyPress and KeyRelease with a keycode.
[08:48] <BHSPitLappy> it's always possible to destroy; it can be made harder to go in and READ stuff, but it's still always possible
[08:48] <cooner750> What is used to show the boot splash screen in Ubuntu? I am using Splashy on Debian, but it does not start soon enough. I noticed that whatever is used in Ubuntu, starts right after "Loading the kernel.... OK"
[08:48] <ArrenLex> Write this keycode down.
[08:48] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: if it doesn't generate any event, then the kernel doesn't know how to handle that key, in which case you must jump through extra hoops to make it work.
[08:49] <{_-IcE-_}> can someone help me with dovecot pls? cant manage to get it to work well... any user/pass i try it says is invalid
[08:49] <Jbirk> I just had a zombie process kill itself
[08:49] <Jbirk> any ideas how that happened
[08:49] <Jbirk> I had a totem <defunt>
[08:49] <ArrenLex> Suicidal zombies? Oh, the paradoxes!
[08:49] <DBO> zombies are collected by init
[08:50] <DBO> once the parent process is gone
[08:50] <Hooveyy> what is /etc/ssl/certs?
[08:50] <DBO> init inherits it and closes it
[08:50] <Hooveyy> whatever it is is taking a long time to setup
[08:50] <ArrenLex> A folder.
[08:50] <Jbirk> I C
[08:50] <Jbirk> how can I find a parent
[08:50] <po0f> The parent process dies, leaving a child;  this is called a zombie.
[08:51] <ArrenLex> So sad. ;_;
[08:51] <po0f> :*(
[08:51] <DBO> actually you got it kinda backwards
[08:51] <rob> poor orphan child
[08:51] <DBO> the child dies and the parent doesnt collect the remains
[08:51] <ArrenLex> Nooo ;___;
[08:51] <DBO> those remains are a zombie
[08:51] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, pstree will reveal the process hierarchy.
[08:52] <po0f> DBO: In either case, nothing a reboot can't fix.
[08:52] <Hooveyy> I call PCs with rootkits zombies :)
[08:52] <quandar> has anyone tried the new Glade? its nice
[08:52] <Hooveyy> OFFTOPIC
[08:52] <crimsun> rredd4: sorry, I've been on the phone. Do you still need me to look?
[08:52] <DBO> po0f, or killing the parent process
[08:52] <quandar> Hooveyy: ALLCAPS
[08:52] <starsky_hutchy> Hooveyy, that's backdoors.
[08:52] <rredd4> crimsun if you can please... thanks
[08:53] <Jbirk> can't I just kill init?
[08:53] <rredd4>   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27755/
[08:53] <AdamKili> ArrenLex, sorry ubuntu's going slow 4 some reason. xev doesn't record anything when i press the windows/super key
[08:54] <cooner750> Anyone?
[08:54] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, i suppose you can't kill init, it spawns every other process in Gnu/Linux. :)
[08:54] <po0f> Does the live cd have irssi?
[08:54] <crimsun> rredd4: are you dist-upgrading? if so, from what to what?
[08:54] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: do you know about virtual terminals?
[08:54] <starsky_hutchy> Jbirk, in other words it's parent of all the process.
[08:54] <rredd4> crimsun  dapper to edgy rc...
[08:55] <Jbirk> hum
[08:55] <Jbirk> I C
[08:55] <Jbirk> what about FreeBSD
[08:55] <Jbirk> it doesn't even have init does it?
[08:55] <Hooveyy> FreeBSD is hard to freakin use
[08:55] <Jbirk> why does linux need init?
[08:55] <Hooveyy> I like Slackware :)
[08:55] <Jbirk> can't they do without
[08:55] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: no
[08:55] <crimsun> rredd4: are you using the dist-upgrader?
[08:55] <chimaera> hi. i'm having problems with my touchpad (PB 12", post-feb05). i'm using the appletouch/synaptics drivers and get very choppy/jumping/skipping input. very erratic, barley usable. any ideas how to get around this?
[08:55] <Jbirk> I heard good things about slack 10.1
[08:55] <Jbirk> I guess I should reboot
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Is Ubuntu debian based?
[08:56] <crimsun> Hooveyy: yes.
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Or did they like compile their own thing?
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Ah
[08:56] <crimsun> "their own thing"?
[08:56] <Hooveyy> Linux kernel
[08:56] <rredd4> crimsun i typed this        gksudo "update-manager -c -d"   which lead me to synaptic and later it said that i did not have ubuntu-desktop so i installed it and got the slocate error
[08:57] <crimsun> yes, we have different kernel configurations and a different set of kernel patches
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: you really should learn about them; they're crazy useful =P but it doesn't matter.
[08:57] <Hooveyy> Is it hard to compile your own linux kernel, and make your own repos, etc?
[08:57] <Hooveyy> Basically just making your own distro
[08:57] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: will they help me get my Win key working?
[08:57] <Hooveyy> That isn't based off of anything
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: do this: dmesg  | grep setkey | tail -1
[08:57] <Jbirk> hehe
[08:57] <Jbirk> I cleared my zombie
[08:57] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no, you don't need them.
[08:57] <Jbirk> umount /dev/hdc
[08:58] <Jbirk> that took care of it
[08:58] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: paste the result of that. Should be one line.
[08:58] <Jbirk> it said there was no process
[08:58] <baconbacon> Hooveyy: Ubuntu is based on Debian but has its own packages and repositories
[08:59] <Jbirk> isn't debian better?
[08:59] <Jbirk> just kidding
[08:59] <Jbirk> what is the difference?
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Debian owns you. *nod*
[08:59] <Jbirk> who owns linux?
[08:59] <rredd4> Jbirk  ubuntu is updated more!!  bleeding edge!
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: ubuntu is basically debian where packages are released even if they don't compile on SPARC computers =P
[08:59] <crimsun> rredd4: you should be able to work around it temporarily by allowing ubuntu-desktop to be uninstalled (as long as doing so doesn't remove all other packages, ~400 MB worth), then you can continue without install slocate
[09:00] <ArrenLex> rredd4: actually, you will find that the packages in debian testing are almost always newer than dapper's packages.
[09:00] <crimsun> rredd4: after that completes, you can then reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> !Linux
[09:00] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: the trademark? Torvalds.
[09:00] <starsky_hutchy> !Ubuntu
[09:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:00] <rredd4> crimsun  so do a apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop?
[09:00] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: hellooo?
[09:01] <baconbacon> Jbirk: Linux is copyright Linus Torvalds and all the contributors, it is released under the GPL licence, and is a trademark of Linus Torvalds
[09:01] <crimsun> rredd4: yes
[09:01] <rredd4> l
[09:01] <rredd4> k
[09:01] <rredd4> ty
[09:01] <Jay2> anyone have any experience with any Ubuntu compatible business software, I'm looking for something to replace Quickbooks
[09:02] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: brb hold on
[09:03] <rredd4> crimsun  i am shocked how fast it was uninstalled, 62259 files and directories currently installed.   the download was 852 files...
[09:04] <Hooveyy> I think my PC bit the dust.
[09:04] <crimsun> rredd4: sorry, I misunderstand you?
[09:04] <Hooveyy> I loaded Ubuntu in VMWare, and started X, and clicked on the menu and my PC froze :\
[09:04] <BHSPitLappy> the host or the vm?
[09:04] <Hooveyy> Both
[09:05] <rredd4> crimsun  when i downloaded ubuntu-desktop, it was 852 files.  when i apt get removed ubuntu-desktop, it did it extremely fast.  seems strange that it would be so fast...
[09:05] <crimsun> rredd4: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage used to smooth dist-upgrades
[09:06] <Hooveyy> When you install something it dls the files
[09:06] <rredd4> ok
[09:06] <Hooveyy> That's why the installation took so long and the de-install was so short.
[09:06] <rredd4> yeah, i see
[09:06] <rredd4> dl is sloooowwww
[09:06] <ZirJoker> !games
[09:06] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:07] <rredd4> crimsun ty for your help, again....  !!!
[09:07] <crimsun> rredd4: np
[09:08] <Hooveyy> aha, my LAMP server install worked
[09:08] <BHSPitLappy> of course it did
[09:09] <greg_> heh, gotta love ubuntu ;)
[09:09] <Hooveyy> I have.... 200 updates, yay
[09:09] <AdamKili> i'm back
[09:09] <Hooveyy> how come when downloading updates my speed will be 500KB/s then it'll drop to like 10KB/s?
[09:09] <Hooveyy> I find that irratating.
[09:12] <ZirJoker> me too..
[09:12] <JDStone> Hooveyy: burst rates
[09:12] <JDStone> as with any download
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !xmms2
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !xmms
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !evil
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <ZirJoker> !devil
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devil - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <ZirJoker> !doom
[09:14] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:14] <AdamKili> hey is the person who was helping me still here?
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Yes, Adam.
[09:16] <Hooveyy> Why does linux have to take so long to shutdown? Cant it run kill * -1?
[09:16] <mike> #altered-fservers-united
[09:16] <JDStone> Hooveyy: you're not supposed to shut down your linux machines
[09:16] <JDStone> :P
[09:17] <Hooveyy> Har, I needed to restart for some Kernel updates.
[09:17] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: sorry linux was being to slow and i had to restart and it took forever so i forgot who was helping me. dmesg | grep setkey | tail -1 (all in one line right?) didn't output anything
[09:18] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no it didn't, after your rebooted. Run it after you've pressed the windows key at least once.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/ ->> KDE owns you. *nod*
[09:21] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: it still doesn't do anything: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27761/
[09:21] <Toma-> ArrenLex: id love to see the benchmarks including E
[09:21] <Seveas> ArrenLex, yay for inaccurate and outdated benchmarks...
[09:21] <Jay2> anyone have any experience with any Ubuntu compatible business software, I'm looking for something to replace Quickbooks
[09:22] <catalytic> i have put a new HD in my computer
[09:22] <catalytic> and i can browse to
[09:22] <catalytic> it, i have put the mount point in the Desktop dir of my username
[09:22] <catalytic> but i dont have write access to it
[09:22] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, is it ntfs ?
[09:22] <catalytic> how do i change the permissions for a user to access a drive?
[09:22] <catalytic> no it is ext3
[09:23] <C-O-L-T> how to install xgl on intel cards. I tried out mandriva 2007 and those effects work perfectly with my pc so ubuntu xgl should work too. how to install it
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, you can chmod or mount as user
[09:23] <blake_> hello..
[09:23] <catalytic> how do i mount as user?
[09:23] <wickedpuppy> catalytic, hmms ... i think google should have examples
[09:24] <Hooveyy> Yayomg
[09:24] <catalytic> ok
[09:24] <catalytic> thanks
[09:24] <Hooveyy> I like, successfully installed LAMP
[09:24] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: it still didn't do anything: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27761/
[09:25] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: and you're absolutely certain that xev didn't show many event when you pressed that key? Nothing changed in the command line from which it was launched?
[09:26] <blake_> what is ubuntu?
[09:26] <ArrenLex> !ubuntu
[09:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:27] <blake_> i was joking.. lol
[09:27] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: yep i'm sure
[09:27] <reverie> What's sunlight?
[09:27] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: then I don't know... sorry. That's really weird.
[09:27] <blake_> i have no cue
[09:27] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: maybe u typoed that command?
[09:28] <Hooveyy> Where is the CGI-BIN dir on the default Ubuntu LAMP stack?
[09:28] <blake_> ll
[09:28] <Rookie_> to use -1 in tail is to tell you want only the last line ...
[09:28] <blake_> lol
[09:28] <Seveas> Hooveyy, in /usr/lib
[09:28] <Hooveyy> thanks
[09:28] <blake_> your funny hooveyy
[09:28] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: or i did :/  can u give it to me 1 more time?
[09:30] <blake_> can i compile your kernal and finger your tree?
[09:30] <mehwoot> I need some help getting these nvidia drivers to work
[09:30] <Rookie_> !nvidia
[09:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <catalytic> is it possible to change the owner of a file?
[09:31] <Rookie_> chown
[09:31] <mehwoot> thanks I'll try that
[09:31] <catalytic> awesome
[09:31] <catalytic> thankts
[09:31] <Rookie_> chown username.group
[09:32] <Rookie_> apropos owner
[09:32] <mike> How do i ask for help
[09:32] <Rookie_> !ask
[09:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:32] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: no, I tried it on my machine and copied it to you.
[09:32] <mike> ok
[09:33] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: if you type dmesg | tail, you can see the most recent kernel messages and look for anything weird... I don't think it will help you much, though.
[09:33] <mike> I am new to ubuntu.  Just installed it.  How do I change my resolution from 60 hz to like 75
[09:33] <mike> it doesnt allow me to go past 60
[09:34] <Rookie_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <mike> that gives me some long menu
[09:34] <Alakazamz0r> umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu
[09:34] <Ademan> in anjuta should i choose the scintilla editor or the gtksourceview one?
[09:34] <mike> and more than one spot where I can change the resolution
[09:34] <Rookie_> yea? so ? time to configure ;)
[09:35] <mike> so should i change it in both the verticle and horizantle rates?
[09:35] <AdamKili> ArrenLex: dang it i really wanted to use the 3ddesk (3D Desktop Changer) program on my windows key. it's to inconvienient to use otherwise. Thanks for the help anyways tho
[09:35] <Rookie_> you know what card you have ? you know what it can do ? then use that and then what screen you have ....
[09:35] <mike> I know what card i have
[09:36] <mike> and i am positive that it can go higher then 60
[09:36] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: hey, try this.
[09:36] <Rookie_> linux is userfriendly, its just selective wqho its friend are ;)
[09:36] <Hooveyy> !LAMP
[09:36] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: paste the output of "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbModel"
[09:36] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[09:36] <mehwoot> I've installed the nVidia-glx package, along with the AMD64 linux restricted modules, but my drivers still wont work.
[09:36] <CWW256> On a new installation of Ubunto on a blank HD, is it a good/bad idea to define the whole drive as an extended partition then make logical partitions for boot swap and / inside that extended partiton?
[09:37] <CWW256> err Ubuntu
[09:37] <AdamKili> ArrenLex:        Option          "XkbModel"      "pc104"
[09:37] <Rookie_> swap and boot should be prim, rest can be logical
[09:37] <ArrenLex> Hmm. That's right.
[09:37] <po0f> IIRC, /boot has to be a primary partition.
[09:37] <ArrenLex> AdamKili: are you sure the key... works? xD
[09:37] <ArrenLex> I just don't know.
[09:38] <CWW256> Ok so it would be "not good" of swap and boot were logcal partitions inside the extended partiton?
[09:38] <ArrenLex> CWW256: lies. /boot does not have to be a primary partition at all.
[09:39] <ArrenLex> CWW256: there is nothing wrong with the setup you described as long as you use only grub and Linux. They can handle that setup.
[09:39] <Rookie_> CWW256 - create 2 prim parts, 1 for boot and 1 for swap, rest can be logical and then create a new in that one and mount it as /
[09:39] <ArrenLex> CWW256: as soon as you add Windows to the mix, you've gone straight to hell, though. It won't boot from an extended partition.
[09:39] <CWW256> Ok, yeah this will have only Ubuntu installed.
[09:39] <mike> so do input into my monitor's horizontal sync range.
[09:39] <CWW256> No windows
[09:40] <mehwoot> ArrenLex: you sure? According to my setup, windows is on an extended partition and it boots fine..
[09:40] <Hooveyy> Kickass, ubuntu is so easy to use
[09:40] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: pretty sure. o_O
[09:40] <Hooveyy> Especially the LAMP
[09:40] <mehwoot> I have the boot.ini on primary but the actual windows on an extended partition
[09:40] <Hooveyy> I have everything running within a matter of.. a couple minutes ;D
[09:40] <reverie> Hey guys.
[09:41] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: I was so told by the nice lady who lives in the flash waltkthrough in Partition Magic 7...
[09:41] <ArrenLex> walkthrough ***
[09:41] <mehwoot> Hmmm ok
[09:41] <reverie> if we use Edgy and when it comes out as stable, is it just simply a matter of apt-get dist-upgrade to get it up to the final?
[09:41] <ArrenLex> mehwoot: oh, there we go. You're still booting from a primary partition.
[09:41] <Hooveyy> I think it'll come up on the update manager.
[09:42] <mehwoot> yeah I see what you mean
[09:43] <Hooveyy> Whoa, Linux anti-aliases fonts better than windows
[09:43] <Hooveyy> :|
[09:44] <ohboy> wow where to start...
[09:44] <Hooveyy> ?
[09:44] <mehwoot> Im still having trouble with these Nvidia drivers...
[09:45] <mehwoot> I installed the packages and the restricted modules.. but it wont work
[09:45] <mehwoot> how do you check the version of the kernel running?
[09:45] <defrysk> uname -r
[09:46] <mehwoot> thanks
[09:46] <mehwoot> oooh
[09:46] <mehwoot> theres my problem
[09:46] <ClayG> what is the package name to install the extra menus?
[09:47] <ClayG> i think they are called debian menus or something but do not know the exact package name
[09:47] <defrysk> ClayG, go to edit menus and tic the debian menus
[09:48] <defrysk> rightclick the ubuntu startbutton
[09:48] <defrysk> then edit menus etc
[09:48] <ClayG> Thank you, this is exactly what I needed
[09:49] <shriphani> ok guys a question
[09:49] <shriphani> if i got a cpu here and a lappy
[09:49] <ohboy> you don't need a firewall with ubuntu??
[09:49] <niall> 0.
[09:49] <defrysk> ohboy, if no server is installed you do not need one per se
[09:50] <shriphani> and i wanna use my cpu through the lappy what do i do
[09:50] <Zaire> would be a good idea to have one though
[09:50] <jpjacobs> shriphani, i guess you mean desktoppc by cpu, use ssh?
[09:50] <holycow> you guys need to stop using windows terminology
[09:50] <shriphani> jpjacobs, no screen no keyboard
[09:51] <holycow> all modern linux' using modern 2.6 kernels have firewalls built in
[09:51] <holycow> its called ip tables
[09:51] <Zaire> what windows terminology
[09:51] <holycow> to configure it you can just download firestarter or configure it by hand
[09:51] <shriphani> so i can only use the terminal ?
[09:51] <holycow> i.e. you 'don't get a firewall' its built in
[09:51] <jpjacobs> uhu... if you can get it up and running, connected to the net and running an sshserver you can do whatever you want with the box
[09:51] <Zaire> you can get firewalls just 3rd party ones
[09:52] <holycow> Zaire, stop talking shit
[09:52] <jpjacobs> shriphani, not necesarily, you can use Xforwarding (use ssh -X or -Y)
[09:52] <rbil> Linux is a firewall
[09:52] <shriphani> jpjacobs, does the box need to be connected to the internet for me to use ssh ?
[09:52] <holycow> no
[09:52] <shriphani> cuz all the times i have used ssh is to connect to a beowulf cluster over the internet
[09:52] <jpjacobs> well, it neets to be connected to a network that's also accessible for the laptop
[09:53] <ohboy> sorry...i'm new to this
[09:53] <jpjacobs> needs... sorry not that awake :p
[09:53] <shriphani> jpjacobs, so i need to set up a network first and then use ssh ?
[09:53] <jpjacobs> if you have a crosslink cable you can jsut plug it between the 2 and have the box run a dhcpserver
[09:53] <jpjacobs> like dnsmasq or dhcpd
[09:54] <shriphani> oh
[09:54] <shriphani> so the box needs to have a server installation ?
[09:54] <jpjacobs> shriphani, you can even use the box as router then if you want (and have 2 NIC's) see www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[09:55] <Hooveyy> im out guys
[09:55] <Hooveyy> night
[09:55] <shriphani> jpjacobs, i dont have much hardware here and am looking to be up and running with just a broadband cable
[09:55] <jpjacobs> if you want to use X with it, X has to be installed on the box too (even when it hasn't got a screen)
[09:55] <Zaire> Im not so stfu
[09:56] <shriphani> jpjacobs, this might sound stupid but how do i install an os on the box ?
[09:56] <ArrenLex> !stfu
[09:56] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:57] <ClayG> is there a way to enable the xdmcp from the cli?
[09:57] <jpjacobs> shriphani, well, i'd say: borrow a screen, and keyboard somewhere :)
[09:58] <shriphani> hmm or i can ask the manufacturer to do it for me
[09:58] <jpjacobs> euhm yes, but i would say that just borrowing a screen and keyboard is FAR easier, then you can also install what you want...
[10:00] <shriphani> i want ubuntu on it
[10:00] <shriphani> so i must put that on + dhcpd + openssh
[10:00] <jpjacobs> when you boot (with no matter what livecd) you'll always will have to put in som bootcodes , so a keyboard is the least you need
[10:00] <ohboy> umm...no antivirus or spyware programs needed on a standalone computer?
[10:00] <jpjacobs> yeah indeed... and of course configure
[10:01] <shriphani> jpjacobs, i can dig a tutorial for that
[10:01] <holycow> ohboy, no one has ever seen one of those in the wild for linux really
[10:01] <Afth> Did Ubuntu 6.10 came out (
[10:01] <rbil> ohboy, no
[10:01] <Afth> ?
[10:01] <arnor> Hello World!
[10:01] <ohboy> i'll be damned
[10:01] <holycow> not really
[10:01] <holycow> people have a hard enough time installing legit software
[10:01] <shriphani> Afth, a few months back
[10:01] <jpjacobs> shriphani, i have to say, it's a gentoo tutorial, so don't take things literally... the config remains almost the same though
[10:01] <holycow> there is very little chance someone could install spyware even if they wanted to
[10:01] <Madpilot> Afth, full release isn't for a week or so
[10:02] <Afth> shriphani,  I meant the full version, not beta.
[10:02] <jpjacobs> shriphani, I'm of to eat now.. see you!
[10:02] <shriphani> oh wait Afth i though you asked for 6.06
[10:02] <shriphani> jpjacobs, thanks
[10:03] <Afth> Madpilot,  and onces it get's available, can i do sudo dist-upgrade ?
[10:03] <Madpilot> Afth, yes
[10:03] <Afth> Madpilot, Thanks
[10:03] <shriphani> Afth, i think synaptic gives ya an option
[10:03] <Afth> Last Question: Where can I get XGL?
[10:04] <ohboy> hmm...my old laptop may have some life in it
[10:04] <holycow> Afth, if you are going to try aiglx, remember all that stuff isn't even alpha
[10:05] <hume> what is the command line argument for starting a second x-server? startx  and then what?
[10:05] <holycow> be perpaerd to reinstall your system, graciously gettting your setup to the way it was before isnot pretty
[10:05] <holycow> just a heads up
[10:05] <Afth> hume, startx to manually start xserver
[10:06] <hume> Afth, yes, but I need a second, startx just complains about x alredy running
[10:06] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[10:06] <arnor> snoops: good question :)
[10:06] <Boll> hume: startx -- :1
[10:06] <Boll> I believe
[10:06] <arnor> snoops: I was searching for same thing
[10:07] <snoops> there's nvidia-settings which doesn't seem to have any relevant information about anything
[10:07] <arnor> snoops: I've just found a tool for setting NVidia display parameters but not brightness
[10:07] <hume> Boll, ah, thx..:)
[10:07] <Afth> holycow, sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl ?
[10:08] <holycow> AfterDeath, not even close ... the various instructions are on the wiki, google aiglx orwhatever i don't have a link for you
[10:09] <catalytic> https://sdlc6d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=BA3EBEC02DBAE183BEDB58A5E9087EDA
[10:09] <arnor> did anyone compile Code::Blocks on Ubuntu?
[10:09] <snoops> what tool was that arnor?
[10:09] <catalytic> which package is goign to the be the easiest for me to install on xubuntu/ubuntu?
[10:09] <catalytic> the rpm or the bin?
[10:09] <shriphani> catalytic, bin
[10:09] <catalytic> unless there is a way i can install through synatic
[10:09] <Afth> holycow, thanks
[10:09] <catalytic> ok
[10:10] <halok> john330
[10:10] <ClayG> whats a good port scanner to use with gnome/ubuntu?
[10:10] <catalytic> nmap
[10:11] <arnor> snoops: www.codeblocks.org
[10:13] <spizz> what's a good remote desktop server for linux, besides xdmcp?
[10:14] <snoops> codeblocks.org for setting nvidia display parameters arnor?
[10:14] <TheGateKeeper> spizz: freenx ??
[10:14] <holycow> zpiff, nomachine.com has the best one
[10:14] <arnor> snoops: na :)
[10:15] <hume> Boll, i need to have layout Rotate as well as arguments, beside :1 - how do I combine them? then man page doesn't make me any wiser
[10:15] <arnor> snoops: Code::Blocks is an IDE for C++ coding
[10:15] <spizz> holycow - yes, but it's commercial isn't it
[10:16] <holycow> sure you didn't say free
[10:16] <spizz> heh
[10:16] <snoops> arnor, hence why I was asking the question of why you sent me there
[10:16] <spizz> yeah, I've evaluated it
[10:16] <holycow> although most of their libraries are gpl
[10:16] <holycow> you also have vnc, but make sure you tunnel that over ssh
[10:17] <spizz> there's an NX free edition
[10:17] <arnor> snoops: I'm searching for a little tool for NVidia, just for you
[10:17] <snoops> aww, thanks :D
[10:18] <TheGateKeeper> spizz: nomachine.com have a free client use freenx for the server
[10:18] <kvtruong_> anyone running aiglx on an intel i915?
[10:18] <spizz> whats the diff between free and nonfree?
[10:18] <Lynoure> free is open source, nonfree is not
[10:18] <kvtruong_> i've noticed that it's significantly slower and the titlebar lags when you maximize
[10:18] <spizz> I mean feature-wise
[10:19] <SupremacyGnu> Hey, I have some r01, r02, r03 etc... files that I want to unpack. I don't seem to be able to do that with the inbuilt archive unpacker. How do I do it?
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: http://www.linuxforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=724
[10:19] <Lynoure> spizz: completely different packages
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: it seems that MPlayer can adjust brightness/contrast
[10:19] <arnor> snoops: maybe a solution?
[10:19] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:20] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:20] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, for par2 files sudo apt-get install par2
[10:20] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, par2 only works on the cli afaIk
[10:21] <Lynoure> spizz: or are you talking about something else than repositories and packages, if so, disregard what I said...
[10:21] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok, is par2 the name for the filecompression method?
[10:22] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, par2 repairs rars , they are often send with rar files on usenet but work also on other files
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, sorry, im a beginner linux user. cli afaik?
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:22] <defrysk> unrar works with linux
[10:22] <defrysk> on cli and also nautilus
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> aha
[10:22] <SupremacyGnu> ok, thanks! i'll try it
[10:23] <ndisman> How can i install the ATI driver? is it xorg-driver-fglrx?
[10:23] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, repairing works with par2repair <blah.par2>
[10:23] <TheGateKeeper> !ati
[10:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:23] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, ok
[10:24] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, unrar on the CLI : unrar e <blah.rar>
[10:28] <catalytic> what sort of card do u have ndisman?
[10:28] <catalytic> oh
[10:28] <catalytic> he has gone
[10:30] <Vuen> hey, i'm getting a wierd problem with mounting my drives
[10:30] <Vuen> ever since the upgrade to edgy, my vfat partition doesn't mount automatically
[10:30] <Vuen> but as soon as i type sudo mount -a, it comes right up
[10:30] <Vuen> it's the wierdest thing
[10:31] <defrysk> Vuen, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <Vuen> whoops
[10:31] <Vuen> wrong chan, my bad
[10:32] <chronosoft> hiya
[10:34] <chronosoft> hmm... i was wondering is there a quick and easy way to access super user/root privileges from a user account?
[10:34] <chronosoft> (without having to "switch" to the super user/root account)
[10:35] <tuxi> i have a problem with to format floppys lowlevel
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo
[10:35] <tuxi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27768/
[10:35] <chronosoft> doesn't work
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sure it does.
[10:35] <chronosoft> not in a limited "desktop user" account
[10:35] <_ian_> hi im running ubuntu 5.10 cause 6.06 wont configure my net connection....what do i need to enable mp3 support and radio streaming
[10:35] <chuckyp> chronosoft, you type sudo whateverprogram    it will prompt you for your password then you type it in and it executes whateverprogram as root
[10:35] <tuxi> eanble mukltiverse
[10:36] <defrysk> !mp3
[10:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:36] <tuxi> i use ubuntu edgy
[10:36] <chuckyp> tuxi, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:36] <chronosoft> chuckyp, i have used linux for a couple of years now
[10:37] <chronosoft> i know about sudo'ing
[10:37] <chuckyp> chronosoft, ok then what do you want to do exactly because that gives you root?
[10:37] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo su-
[10:37] <defrysk> chronosoft, you mean something like sudo -i ?
[10:37] <Foc> chuckyp it's sudo -s ?
[10:37] <chronosoft> i want to mount my usb drive
[10:38] <tuxi> sudo mount /dev/sdx /mnt
[10:38] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo mount /dev/i'mafucktard
[10:38] <defrysk> lol chuckyp
[10:38] <chronosoft> ...
[10:38] <chuckyp> chronosoft, sudo mount /dev/coupleofyears /media/usb
[10:38] <chronosoft> ...
[10:39] <chuckyp> chronosoft, or just sudo su-  sudo -i or sudo -s and you will have root.  ctrl+d to leave.
[10:39] <chuckyp> defrysk, i'm getting tired
[10:39] <chuckyp> lol
[10:39] <defrysk> chuckyp, have some uppers ;p
[10:39] <chronosoft> sigh...
[10:39] <chuckyp> defrysk, Yeah i'm about to go mainline some cafeine
[10:40] <chuckyp> chronosoft, what?  I'm sorry I'm a little tired.
[10:40] <chronosoft> i know about all of the above -_-;; try creating a user using the "desktop user" profile
[10:40] <chronosoft> and try sudo urself
[10:40] <chuckyp> chronosoft, yeap works fine
[10:40] <chronosoft> i'm also using edgy
[10:41] <chronosoft> i'm thinking it's a bug
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, you just have to enter the original users password when it prompts you not the new one
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, using edgy here and no problems with sudo
[10:41] <defrysk> chronosoft, /j #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <chronosoft> you really can't sudo things over here for some strange reason
[10:41] <chronosoft> chuckyp, i did
[10:41] <chuckyp> chronosoft, well then you have a problem with sudo.
[10:42] <chuckyp> chronosoft,  you may want to ask in #ubuntu+1 why sudo isn't working.
[10:42] <chronosoft> cool thanks, i'll take a look at the problem for a little bit longer
[10:43] <xipietotec> I'm trying to install themes...and I'm getting "invalid format" even though they're zipped in .tar.gz
[10:43] <Zambezi> Anybody skilled on rsync? I can't make it work.
[10:43] <defrysk> xipietotec, isnt that a drag and drop thing ?
[10:43] <[chu] Prot> what are you trying to make it do?
[10:44] <xipietotec> defrysk: yes, but it's telling me the file format is invalid
[10:44] <defrysk> xipietotec, what theme and what link ?
[10:45] <xipietotec> I've got 5 themes off of gnome-look, all gdm themes
[10:45] <defrysk> what what ftw ?
[10:45] <defrysk> ooh gdm themes
[10:46] <Crazyl1nk> i have a question
[10:46] <[chu] Prot> Iv got a group challenge: I have an nforce3 mobo, amd xp3000 and an _ati x800 pro_
[10:46] <chuckyp> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <[chu] Prot> is anyone brave anuf to try and get me some reliable hardware acceleration?
[10:46] <chuckyp> What video card?
[10:46] <chronosoft> lol
[10:47] <Hit3k> chuckyp, Crazyl1nk didnt ask to ask they stated they had a question
[10:47] <chuckyp> Hit3k, thats true
[10:47] <[chu] Prot> chuckyp lemme check
[10:47] <Crazyl1nk> im new to this OS, and id like to test out a game on my linux box, i read that a program called Cedega can help with this but when i download it and run it i get an error. what can i do >_<
[10:47] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, lspci  should show you what card you have.
[10:47] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, what game are you trying to get working?
[10:47] <Crazyl1nk> Warcraft III
[10:48] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, have you tried wine?
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> i have no
[10:48] <Hit3k> Crazyl1nk, whats the error you get
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> not*
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 PRO Toxic 256MB AGP8x
[10:48] <chuckyp> !ati
[10:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> yeh iv followed that guide
[10:48] <Crazyl1nk> one second ill type it out
[10:48] <[chu] Prot> no luck
[10:48] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, no luck at which part?
[10:48] <wickedpuppy> Crazyl1nk, if i may speak , if you are new to this whole thing , why start with something thats bound to have problem ? why not start with some basic ? oh and for games , i still use windows ...
[10:48] <Scorpmoon> Does Ubuntu Server Come With An Ftp Server Builtin ?
[10:49] <crimsun> Scorpmoon: no.
[10:49] <[chu] Prot> i reboot after everything going well and im still getting told im on software rendering
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, do sudo gdmsetup
[10:49] <Scorpmoon> Crimsun, Which Daemon Do You Recommend?
[10:49] <[chu] Prot> if u wait 5 mins i'll reboot back into linux so any help u give me i can use strate away
[10:49] <crimsun> Scorpmoon: vsftpd if you must use an ftp daemon
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, klick add
[10:49] <chuckyp> [chu] Prot, what is the output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:49] <whyso> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/peerguardian/peerguardnf-1.5beta.i386.deb?download are you guys seeing 1 mirror :?(
[10:49] <defrysk> xipietotec, and add the targz or whatever
[10:49] <Scorpmoon> crimsun, what do you mean must? and where is that vsftpd doc i've been looking for?
[10:49] <Crazyl1nk> because i want to learn, not sit here doing nothing im learning just started a day or so ago
[10:49] <Cyber_Stalker> hey
[10:50] <defrysk> xipietotec, make sure to get the ubuntu-download from gnome-look
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> guys i got the latest ubuntu
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> when i run it on VMware
[10:50] <defrysk> xipietotec, for the rest : works fine here ;)
[10:50] <Cyber_Stalker> & try and instaal the installer crashes half way through :/
[10:50] <xipietotec> cool thanks! =)
[10:50] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, let me find you a howto with wine.   wine is free cedega costs money
[10:50] <wickedpuppy> Crazyl1nk, try bash scripting , you will LEARN linux
[10:51] <Crazyl1nk> *noted*
[10:51] <chronosoft> ^_^... or something more adventurous like perl
[10:51] <Cyber_Stalker> hehe yea i was recomended to learn bash
[10:51] <wickedpuppy> installing a program doesn't make you learn .... even compiling it .. unless you can't read README or INSTALL
[10:51] <krzak> I use edgy and after upgrade today I lost all localization. Everything is in English, anybody familiar ?
[10:51] <xipietotec> defrysk: I don't see anything (using search) for ubuntu-download
[10:51] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, if you sudo apt-get install wine then follow these directions http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1177
[10:51] <Crazyl1nk> ok thanks chuckyp
[10:51] <defrysk> xipietotec, I tested with : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=47457
[10:52] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, hey again. I just discovered that there's something wrong with r16. How do I repair it with par2repair ?
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> right im back in linux
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> guys
[10:52] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, got the par2 files also ?
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> and for thoe of you who missed it b4, im trying to get an x800 to work
[10:52] <Cyber_Stalker> is there any one that could offer me personal support quick?
[10:52] <bart416> the x800's are like hell
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> typical
[10:52] <bart416> believe me [chu] Prot
[10:52] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, not sure... I ain't got anyfiles named par2 that I want to unpack
[10:52] <[chu] Prot> this time i boot its working
[10:53] <xipietotec> annnnnddd....it won't let me access the gdm setup file
[10:53] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, my bad
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> ok well i'll be back when it dies next time
[10:53] <bart416> did you install the official drivers ?
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> thanks for your help :)
[10:53] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, you can unpack without verifying
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> i installed the ones which apt-get fetches
[10:53] <[chu] Prot> which i dont think are the absolute latest
[10:53] <bart416> Anybody happens to know why the hell my sound card doesn't get started :S
[10:53] <bart416> I installed the driver package of Realtek for the card
[10:54] <bart416> Doesn't work
[10:54] <SupremacyGnu> defrysk, well, I used unrar e filename /file/directory. And it worked. But now I get an read error on file r16
[10:54] <crimsun> bart416: ``uname -r''
[10:54] <Cyber_Stalker> any one know why my ubuntu install crashes ?
[10:54] <defrysk> SupremacyGnu, unrar e <blah.rar> -kb
[10:54] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, nope
[10:54] <xipietotec> defrysk: how do I access the gdmsetup? without gdm and x11 loaded?
[10:54] <bart416> 2.6.15-23-amd64-generic
[10:54] <crimsun> bart416: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> half way through installing it crashes :/
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> so i have to keep booting off a live CD
[10:55] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, the live cd works fine?
[10:55] <defrysk> xipietotec, you dont I guess
[10:55] <bart416> Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> yea the live cd starts
[10:55] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, and at which part is it crashing i.e. whats going on?
[10:55] <crimsun> bart416: first, upgrade to 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> then on my desktop
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> i have "install"
[10:55] <bart416> crimsun, uhm I'm near the end of my datalimit
[10:55] <crimsun> bart416: don't install the realtek drivers after you update
[10:55] <Cyber_Stalker> when i dbl click it starts the install to the hard drive so i dont have to boot off the CD
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> but half way through the install it tunes sorry
[10:56] <defrysk> who wants an ISP with datalimit ?
[10:56] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, it tunes?
[10:56] <defrysk> nuts!
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> it says
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> :P
[10:56] <bart416> Uhm no ISP's here without a datalimit :'(
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> it gives me an error & crashes
[10:56] <chuckyp> WHAT IS THE ERROR
[10:56] <Crazyl1nk> whats a good thing to jump into first when wanting to learn inlux?
[10:56] <defrysk> bart416, time to move I guess
[10:56] <defrysk> ;p
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> lol
[10:56] <bart416> defrysk, uhm to another country you mean by that?
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> no idea
[10:56] <s_spiff>  anyone here installed beryl on a ubuntu amd64 Dapper env.?
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> gimme a sec
[10:56] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, play around with the system.
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> gotto start VM ware again
[10:56] <Cyber_Stalker> & try to reinstaal
[10:56] <fly-away> hi
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> install*
[10:57] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, so you are trying to install in vmware
[10:57] <defrysk> bart416, as an inet junk I would for sure :D
[10:57] <mjcohen> can someone help with enabling divx
[10:57] <jqk> !ati
[10:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> yea
[10:57] <chuckyp> !codecs > mjcohen
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> trying to install it on a virtual machine
[10:57] <Hitch> Cyber_Stalker, are u sure there are no bad sectors on your hd?
[10:57] <Cyber_Stalker> that shouldnt give an error?
[10:57] <chuckyp> Crazyl1nk, learn about the directory structure i.e. configs in /etc/   and logs in /var/log   stuff like that will help you.
[10:57] <bart416> defrysk, would making my own EMP bomb and throwing it at the main office of my ISP be a good course of actions?
[10:57] <mjcohen> I installed easy ubuntu and thought that should cover it
[10:58] <boohoo> I was just looking at the ubuntu 6.10 page
[10:58] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, Don't know I've never installed on a virtual server perhaps try the alternate iso so you can do a text install.
[10:58] <defrysk> bart416, its a start ;p
[10:58] <boohoo> i wanna download ubuntu right now
[10:58] <boohoo> but dunno if i should wait for the 24th
[10:58] <boohoo> or not
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> there is an alternate?
[10:58] <Cyber_Stalker> kk ill check out the CD
[10:58] <chuckyp> boohoo, its release canidate right now.  So its pretty stable but its up to you.
[10:58] <defrysk> boohoo, its fairly safe to get 6.10 for desktop usage
[10:58] <boohoo> oh no, i'm fine with bleeding edge
[10:59] <whyso> i installed the peerguardian.deb package, but all it apparently did was make an empty /etc/peerguardian folder :(
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> but yea im just booting from the CD & then trying to install it from the shortcut on the desktop
[10:59] <defrysk> for server purposes stick to dapper
[10:59] <boohoo> but i would like to update it to the final version
[10:59] <Hitch> Cyber_Stalker, are u sure there are no bad sectors on your hd?
[10:59] <boohoo> and my question is, is the upgrade just as good?
[10:59] <chuckyp> Cyber_Stalker, yeah there is an alternate iso in the same location you downloaded the desktop iso.  You may want to try that.
[10:59] <bart416> so i need to get the linux-image package crimsun ?
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> i didnt download it
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> it got the live CD from ubuntu :P
[10:59] <defrysk> boohoo, I always frefer a fresh install with /home backed up
[10:59] <crimsun> bart416: yes. update && dist-upgrade
[10:59] <Cyber_Stalker> you can order the CD's
[11:00] <defrysk> boohoo, but thats just me
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, upgrading is the same things supposedly but when I reinstalled my system was a lot faster than the dist-upgraded version.  Have no clue why cuz in theory it shouldn't be.
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> but yea
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> official cd's & it crashes during the install
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> but ill give you the error now
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, I have a seperate /home so reinstalling is that big of a deal.
[11:00] <Cyber_Stalker> as soon as the virtual machine boots
[11:00] <boohoo> hmm
[11:00] <bart416> Here we go
[11:00] <chuckyp> boohoo, isn't
[11:01] <bart416> 1.1mb / sec isn't bad i guess :S
[11:01] <boohoo> well I just started a new job, and they had FreeBSD installed there, for some reason, it was looking much better than other distros i've used
[11:01] <defrysk>  /home as separate partition , the only thing mandrake does right
[11:01] <boohoo> and I thought FreeBSD wasn't bleeding edge
[11:01] <boohoo> I think it was the small fonts
[11:01] <defrysk> oops *mandriva
[11:01] <bart416> FreeBSD isn't that bad once its configured
[11:01] <defrysk> bsd is snappy
[11:01] <boohoo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dapper_with_apps.png
[11:02] <boohoo> that picture, somehow doesnt look all the catchy
[11:02] <boohoo> is it the big icons
[11:02] <boohoo> ?
[11:02] <bart416> The only thing i saw mandrake doing right was getting an x800 to work out of the box btw :P
[11:02] <boohoo> i'm talking about the top bar
[11:02] <howieson26> !de
[11:02] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:03] <bart416> boohoo, wouldn't look bad if it i'd be a bit smaller on that resolution
[11:03] <astinus> how can I prevent a specific module (SATA) from being loaded on boot?
[11:03] <defrysk> boohoo, looks like a 800x600 resolution
[11:03] <winsux> FreeBSD is very good & nice to run, but kernelupgrade takes 2 long.....
[11:04] <bart416> astinus, editing the modprobe file ? (not sure)
[11:05] <astinus> bart416: its one specific module, for an 88sx controller
[11:05] <bart416> auch :S
[11:05] <boohoo> ahh
[11:05] <astinus> bart: the linux driver sucks, I need to use the one provided by manufacturer.
[11:05] <defrysk> blacklist it ?
[11:05] <bart416> astinus, remove it from the kernel
[11:05] <astinus> defrysk, how?
[11:05] <defrysk> been a while since I did that ask soeone else :s
[11:05] <astinus> bart416, again, how? i'm using a stock Ubuntu kernel.
[11:06] <defrysk> someone*
[11:06] <bart416> astinus, you'll likely need to compile it to remove it
[11:06] <boohoo> does FreeBSD default to 2.16?
[11:06] <boohoo> gnome
[11:06] <winsux> http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=2378551+0+archive/2006/freebsd-questions/20060312.freebsd-questions
[11:06] <_ian_> does jukbox support .pls files?
[11:07] <bart416> LCOV - 2.6.14_rebootonly_gcov.info - drivers/acpi/blacklist.c
[11:07] <bart416> Current view:, directory - drivers/acpi - blacklist.c. Test:, 2.6.14_rebootonly_gcov.info. Date:, 2006-05-22, Instrumented lines:, 24 ...
[11:07] <astinus> boohoo: I thought this was #ubuntu, or am I missing something?
[11:07] <defrysk> astinus, add the module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist ?
[11:07] <Scorpmoon> i did sudo apt-get install vsftpd, and was asked to insert Ubuntu Server CD.. then it installs 2.0.4, but 2.0.5 is the latest
[11:07] <Hitch> anyone knows where to see the datasheet of ubuntu edgy???
[11:07] <boohoo> I almost knew someone would say that :)
[11:07] <astinus> defrysk: aha! you're a star.
[11:07] <bart416> I assume you'll also find it in the blacklist.c file astinus
[11:07] <crimsun> Hitch: "datasheet"?
[11:07] <compengi> what's gksudo used for?
[11:07] <bart416> okay, blacklist without the .c :S
[11:07] <winsux> to become ROOT
[11:08] <winsux> su = superuser
[11:08] <Hitch> crimsun, I mean what was changed from the dapper and what was added...
[11:08] <astinus> I'm sure as Ubuntu gets more popular, the troll count gets higher :S
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> im a linux noob!
[11:08] <KingLear> is it true that the drivers for PCTel micromodem at linmodems.technion.ac.il dont work for kernel > 2.6.8.*?
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> yayayaya
[11:08] <crimsun> astinus: s/as Ubuntu gets more popular, //g
[11:08] <Hitch> su = subsitute user winsux
[11:08] <astinus> crimsun:  :P
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> ubuntu takes long to boot from the cd :/
[11:08] <defrysk> Cyber_Stalker, it does
[11:08] <compengi> Cyber_Stalker, lol
[11:08] <Cyber_Stalker> :/
[11:09] <defrysk> thats why many install it
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> thats why i want it to instaal
[11:09] <crimsun> Hitch: how high-level do you want a breakdown?
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> bt it crashes half way thoguhg :P
[11:09] <KingLear> Cyber_Stalker I changed the pc, and it all was fine, I had the same problem earlier..
[11:09] <KingLear> lpol
[11:09] <bart416> Can you switch kernel while the OS is running :P
[11:09] <bart416> To lazy to reboot
[11:09] <Hitch> crimsun, I didn't understand
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> KingLear i just deleted the Virtual machine
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> and made a new one
[11:09] <infidel> !mp4
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Cyber_Stalker> maybe it will work better
[11:09] <Madpilot> bart416, that's just about the only thing you do have to reboot *nix for
[11:09] <crimsun> Hitch: what granularity do you want?
[11:09] <KingLear> !pctel
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pctel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <French> IVe been using ubuntu for 2 months now and i used debian befor that. Im interested in Install ing xgl Compiz and i want some one to talk me through their eperience with xgl
[11:10] <[-NoX-] > bart416> too lazy to search for too ? :)
[11:10] <chronosoft> hmm... does anyone know where i could find some examples of some optimized mplayer configurations?
[11:10] <bart416> yeah, Madpilot i was thinking of that, running two kernels at once on a single core cpu is going to cause serious trouble
[11:10] <astinus> French: get some drivers that support compositing and use Beryl
[11:10] <KingLear> any one tell me why do I need gcc to setup modem drivers?
[11:10] <astinus> bart416, yes you can
[11:10] <astinus> bart416, read up on kexec
[11:10] <mjcohen> what is the command to run sa shell script please
[11:11] <Hitch> I want all what is changed or what is added I once saw on OSnews but I'm not finding it anymore crimsun
[11:11] <French> astinus: Did this work for you? did you like it?
[11:11] <astinus> French, its about the best out there currently
[11:11] <astinus> Hitch, thats because Edgy isn't released yet
[11:11] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, you need to compile the drivers ?
[11:11] <crimsun> Hitch: I still have no idea what granularity you seek, so I'll just point you to all the changes. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/
[11:11] <xipietotec> hrrmm....ubuntu is not recognizing themes
[11:11] <bart416> I'll just go for the reboot
[11:11] <astinus> bart416, ;)
[11:11] <KingLear> well
[11:12] <KingLear> when I click the setup,
[11:12] <power83> hi
[11:12] <KingLear> it says gc not found
[11:12] <bart416> I really need to get my bios to stop searching on my sata hd for something bootable :|
[11:12] <power83> i've istalled ubuntu server, but the kernel don't boot after reboot
[11:12] <KingLear> gcc*
[11:12] <power83> what I have to do?
[11:12] <bart416> power83, what does it say ?
[11:12] <v3l0ct> bart416, disable it in the bios
[11:12] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, then why not install gcc ? get build-essentials ... thats not that hard isnt it ?
[11:12] <astinus> KingLear, apt-get install build-essential
[11:12] <mjcohen> i need to run a install.sh file what cmd do i need in front of it
[11:12] <astinus> mjcohen, sh
[11:12] <Hitch> astinus, it is not released yet but they said all about it's packages
[11:12] <mjcohen> many thanks
[11:12] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I want to insatll build-essentials
[11:12] <defrysk> mjcohen, ./ or sh
[11:13] <KingLear> and it says there is a problem with some libstd6
[11:13] <power83> the kernel freeze after it has printed the 1-2 lines on monitor
[11:13] <infidel> anyone know a reason my mp4 move plays but i get no sound?
[11:13] <xipietotec> I'm trying to install gdm themes from gnome-look and it tells me that all of the ones I've downloaded are invalid file format...despite being .tar.gz files
[11:13] <defrysk> mjcohen, perhaps you have to chmod a+x it first
[11:13] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, pls read astinus reply to you
[11:13] <KingLear> when I try to install it, it says dependency problem with g++
[11:13] <bart416> power83, grub works fine i assum e?
[11:13] <power83> bart416, yes
[11:13] <infidel> !mp4
[11:13] <Hitch> for example there will be no more synaptic package manager this became Smart which car install rpm astinus
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> is it better to let the CD auto partition
[11:13] <astinus> wickedpuppy, thanks :P
[11:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> or should i partition it myself
[11:13] <Cyber_Stalker> ?
[11:13] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I cant connect to internet via my ubuntu
[11:13] <bart416> what does 'recovery mode' do when you try it ?
[11:13] <astinus> bart416, single user mode
[11:14] <Zaggynl> Anyone here has trouble burning with k3b? When I try, it burns at very low speed: 2.0x or so, while my DVD burner can do 16x, the media also supports 16x
[11:14] <mjcohen> ill have a go thanks
[11:14] <bart416> astinus, i was asking it to power83 if it crashes when he does that
[11:14] <power83> bart416, I have a VIA EPIA M10000 Nehemiah (i686 compatible) and I've installed on it ubuntu server i386
[11:14] <bart416> I know its single user mode :S
[11:14] <astinus> KingLear, then you have bigger problems than just asking about drivers :P
[11:14] <KingLear> wickedpuppy, astinus in ordetr to do that I will have to get a modem, and the modem installation is causing problem
[11:14] <mjcohen> trying to install divx codec
[11:14] <v3l0ct> Zaggynl, you need to upgrade the firmware on the dvd burner
[11:14] <Cyber_Stalker> should i let ubuntu auto partition or partition it myself?
[11:14] <bart416> did the live cd boot fine power83 ?
[11:14] <astinus> Cyber_Stalker, personal preference
[11:14] <KingLear> lols, astinus Thats what I have been asking here since last night
[11:14] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, so you are in ah ... recursive loop ...
[11:14] <Zaggynl> v3l0ct, I did, I have the newest firmware for my BenQ 1650 (firmware from BenQ)
[11:14] <astinus> KingLear, you're stuck between a rock and a hard place :P
[11:15] <KingLear> all solutions provided to me dont seem to work
[11:15] <power83> bart416, yes, liveCD is perfect andd install ubuntu server correctly
[11:15] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <--- download the package called build-essential
[11:15] <KingLear> Okay
[11:15] <bart416> Uhm, a possible option would be copying the kernel that the live cd uses to boot to the HD
[11:15] <KingLear> wickedpuppy I do have it on my hard drive, copied it from the CD
[11:15] <v3l0ct> Zaggynl, i dunno then sorry :(
[11:15] <Zaggynl> np :) thanks
[11:15] <Brydenn33> does anyone here have ntfs-3g installed? need some help with it.
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, harddrive ... you need to install it with dpkg
[11:16] <KingLear> but , it doesnt install..
[11:16] <KingLear> what shall I do?
[11:16] <KingLear> shall I uninstall the gcc 4
[11:16] <bart416> But you'll have more luck starting the live cd and chrooting to the hd and updating the kernel
[11:16] <sorush20> !ntfs-3g
[11:16] <KingLear> wickedpuppy thats what I did
[11:16] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[11:16] <astinus> wickedpuppy, that won't work.
[11:16] <yakumo> how do i erase the data om my cdrw?
[11:16] <Madpilot> KingLear, can you pastebin your sources.list, please? Install errors like that are often caused by a bad set of repo listing...
[11:16] <Hitch> crimsun, that is what I am searching for thanks
[11:16] <astinus> wickedpuppy, build-essential is just a metapackage
[11:16] <bart416> power83, you know how to do that?
[11:16] <wickedpuppy> astinus, oh ya .. lol .
[11:16] <power83> bart416, in ubuntu server the cd is for only istallation, not livecd to test ubuntu server
[11:17] <wickedpuppy> KingLear, pardon my mistake ...
[11:17] <bart416> You only need a basic linux distro to chroot to the hd power83
[11:17] <sorush20> yama: use gnomebaker.. do you you have that installed just do sudo apt-get install gnomebaker..
[11:17] <KingLear> I have one thing at hand, Madpilot, wicked , : when I cdied into /pctel I did ./setup and was given this
[11:17] <bart416> Okay restart
[11:18] <power83> bart416, okay, but if I hae a ubuntu desktop livecd on dvd drive and chroot on hard disk, next how can I copy ubuntu server kernel on hard disk???
[11:18] <_ian_> guys what do i need to enable .pls support for radio streaming for jukbox?
[11:18] <astinus> i don't see how you can have that problem with Gentoo
[11:18] <astinus> by the very nature of a source-based distro, it always has a compiler, or you're rather fscked
[11:19] <defrysk> _ian_, mp3 support or ogg support or whatever the .plf file refers to
[11:19] <KingLear> here is the pastebin
[11:19] <bart416> power83, well copying the one from the desktop live cd won't be that good
[11:19] <KingLear> when I tried to run the setup in /pctel
[11:19] <KingLear> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27775/
[11:19] <_ian_> i installed gstreamer and lixine but still wont play internet radio.
[11:19] <KingLear> I had That
[11:19] <defrysk> _ian_, for the rest it works on most players of ubuntu
[11:19] <bart416> so getting the network configured and using apt-get to install a new kernel is the best possible option
[11:19] <xipietotec> Okay, I installed kubuntu desktop over normal ubuntu and accidently made it my default, how do I reset gdm to be the default?
[11:19] <bart416> really rebooting now
[11:19] <astinus> KingLear, thats an issue with Ubuntu, one you won't encounter with a Gentoo livecd.
[11:19] <Madpilot> KingLear, no, pastebin your sources.list...
[11:19] <KingLear> when I did that emerge -aUDVN sort of command
[11:20] <Seveas> ohnoitisaDBO!
[11:20] <KingLear> I cant Madpilot
[11:20] <astinus> KingLear, if you have no internet, I reall can't suggest an easy way to get a full toolchain
[11:20] <KingLear> I will have to boot into ubuntu
[11:20] <KingLear> :)
[11:20] <KingLear> u see its a dual boot machine
[11:20] <power83> bart416, with apt-get how I installa a new kernel for ubuntu server?
[11:20] <defrysk> _ian_, apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mp3
[11:20] <xipietotec> Okay, I installed kubuntu desktop over normal ubuntu and accidently made it my default, how do I reset gdm to be the default?
[11:20] <power83> apt-get install .............???
[11:20] <Madpilot> KingLear, yes, you would, unless you can get at the Linux partitions from the other OS
[11:21] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, so you are using KDM? or is loging you into KDE?
[11:21] <defrysk> xipietotec, sudo apt-get remove kdm
[11:21] <KingLear> Madpilot That will be a long way, installing new programmes,
[11:22] <xipietotec> v3l0ct: Well, I'm using gdm (i didn't like KDE), but the boot loader is kdm
[11:22] <defrysk> xipietotec, easy eh ?
[11:22] <KingLear> what i am concrned with is , is there a way to rectify this problem?
[11:22] <astinus> xipietotec, how can you use kdm as a bootloader? :o
[11:22] <KingLear> I mean I have all the packages required on the CD,
[11:22] <KingLear> I have them on the hard disk as well,
[11:22] <KingLear> but they wont install because the other package is not installed
[11:22] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, the boot loader is either lilo or grub.
[11:23] <astinus> KingLear, you need libstc++, gcc and a bunch of other stuff
[11:23] <xipietotec> astinus: I mean the login screen is kubuntu, and the logo on grub is kubuntu
[11:23] <astinus> ahh :P
[11:23] <yakumo> how do i fix my apt-get install? because evertime i use apt-get install i got an error mssg
[11:23] <v3l0ct> now it makes sense
[11:23] <KingLear> astinus have them on CD
[11:23] <KingLear> :(
[11:23] <defrysk> xipietotec, kubuntu-artwork-usplash remove it
[11:24] <xipietotec> soo...uninstalling kdm will not remove some of the programs installed when i installed kubuntu desktop (i like some of the programs)
[11:24] <astinus> power83, kernels are generic these days unless you have a bigiron machine
[11:24] <defrysk> xipietotec,  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[11:24] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you need to be more descriptive of the problem. preferably pastebin the error. so that someone can look and hopefully beable to help you
[11:24] <power83> astinus, sorry I have a VIA EPIA M10000 Nehemiah
[11:24] <astinus> power83, thats not bigiron :P
[11:24] <astinus> power83, linux-image-generic
[11:25] <defrysk> power83 runs on a penlight :D
[11:25] <yakumo> evertime i use apt-get install this messg appear thnks
[11:25] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[11:25] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:25] <bart416> crimsun, so what should i do now?
[11:25] <KingLear> well,
[11:25] <KingLear> I will try again,
[11:25] <power83> astinus, it is i686 compatible...apt-get and next???
[11:25] <KingLear> Thanx for the effort ppl, astinus, Madpilot wickedpuppy ,
[11:25] <KingLear> :)
[11:26] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, hmm, are you using fuse?
[11:26] <yakumo> yup
[11:26] <crimsun> bart416: booted into 2.6.15-27?
[11:26] <yakumo> do i need to rm them
[11:26] <bart416> yes crimsun
[11:26] <crimsun> bart416: ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[11:26] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, hmm, try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get reinstall fuse-utils"
[11:27] <snoops> how can I adjust the brightness or contrast in software for an nvidia graphics card in ubuntu? (I've installed the binary nvidia drivers)
[11:27] <yakumo> ill try
[11:27] <bart416> bart@Raven:~$ tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[11:27] <bart416> Mixers:
[11:27] <bart416> 0: Realtek ALC880
[11:28] <defrysk> snoops, nvidia-settings should do it
[11:28] <yakumo> i got another error mssg
[11:28] <yakumo> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:28] <yakumo> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:28] <snoops> hmm doesn't show up in nvidia-settings defrysk
[11:29] <snoops> when I run nvidia-settings from terminal I get a few errors though defrysk
[11:29] <defrysk> snoops, did you install the ubuntu package of nvidia ?
[11:29] <snoops> yes I did
[11:29] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, could you pastebin your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)
[11:29] <bart416> now what crimsun ?
[11:30] <crimsun> bart416: excellent, and now ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[11:30] <DarkMageZ> !pastebin > yakumo
[11:30] <defrysk> snoops, I can change/correct them here fine, sorry
[11:30] <snoops> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display. Unable to determine number of NVIDIA GPUs on ':0.0'. Unable to determine nmber of NVIDIA Frame Lock Devices on ':0.0.'. Are the errors I get when running nvidia-settings from terminal
[11:30] <Zambezi> Anyone know rsync? I can't make it work.
[11:30] <crimsun> Zambezi: what syntax are you using?
[11:31] <bart416> I don't hear anything crimsun :S
[11:31] <power83> TO INSTALL A SERVER KERNEL on i686: apt-get install <what>
[11:31] <defrysk> snoops, run  sudo nvidia-xconfig restart x and try again
[11:31] <crimsun> bart416: paste the output from ``amixer'' onto http://pastebin.ca
[11:31] <Brydenn33> sorush20 hey i'm still having problems with ntfs-3g. even after reading the link you gave me
[11:31] <snoops> what graphics card defrysk?
[11:31] <astinus> power83, don't shout. apt-get install linux-image-generic
[11:31] <yakumo> sorry but how do i use pastebin
[11:31] <snoops> yeah I guess I'll try that defrysk..
[11:32] <defrysk> fx5200
[11:32] <power83> astinus, thanks
[11:32] <Zambezi> crimsun, I'm trying to block external access so I addes my IP in the computer with a special port. And then I wrote: (hold on).
[11:32] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, basically. you goto their site, you make a new post. then send the link to the url of that post :)
[11:32] <yakumo> k
[11:32] <scott> *hi all* trying to get a hello world prog to compile using gcc/++ but I keep getting gnome.h not found error.  Anyone to help?
[11:33] <Zambezi> crimsun, rsync -avz folder user@ip::/home/user
[11:33] <yakumo> but i try removing my fuse-util using apt-get remove and i got this mssg
[11:33] <yakumo>  files list file for package `fuse-utils' is missing final newline
[11:33] <yakumo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:33] <yakumo>  fuse-utils
[11:33] <yakumo> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[11:33] <yakumo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:33] <crimsun> Zambezi: terminate the path on the destination properly.
[11:34] <crimsun> Zambezi: for more detail, see rsync(1)
[11:34] <bart416> Scott, you might want to use an ide when you start with programming
[11:34] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, something is definantly flakey about that package. i'm hoping there's a newer version available
[11:34] <bart416> and pastebin;com is the definition of slow
[11:34] <bart416> :S
[11:34] <crimsun> Zambezi: furthermore, make sure tcp/873 is not blocked.
[11:34] <Zambezi> And on the recieving computer (in the same network) I wrote the lines in /etc/rsync.conf. It was something about ip and port.
[11:34] <crimsun> bart416: that's why I specified http://pastebin.ca
[11:35] <yakumo> do i need to reinstall my ubuntu to fix the problem?
[11:35] <scott> bart:I have glade but want to use c/cpp
[11:35] <bart416> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/214980
[11:35] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, you "shouldn't" have to
[11:36] <DarkMageZ> yakumo, if you could pastebin your sources.list tho
[11:36] <Zambezi> crimsun, I'm not comfortable open ports in IPCop, but I haven't blocked it, maybe it is blocked by default.
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: ah, you need the patches I submitted last week.
[11:36] <ajax4> Hey guys. I heard that Adobe's Flash player 9 for Linux was out or is coming out soon. Anyone have any news?
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: they'll be in a kernel soon (no ETA)
[11:36] <bart416> uhm, scott try kdevelop
[11:36] <DarkMageZ> !flash9 > ajax4
[11:36] <bart416> oh
[11:36] <ajax4> scott: Also try Anjuta
[11:36] <crimsun> bart416: in the meantime, you can compile alsa-driver 1.0.13 from ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
[11:36] <scott> ok thanks
[11:37] <bart416> scott, I'm not sure if it will work in gnome
[11:37] <ajax4> DarkMageZ: thanks
[11:37] <bart416> Likely tough
[11:37] <bart416> or eclipse with the correct plugins
[11:37] <scott> I'll read up on it
[11:37] <crimsun> scott: you need libgnomeui-dev, probably
[11:38] <bart416> crimsun, I don't see the point in compiling a simple hello world application with all the gnome stuff :S
[11:38] <crimsun> bart416: he asked for gnome.h specifically.
[11:38] <scott> I have gnome-libs-devel-1.4.2-7.i386
[11:38] <GMan> lo all
[11:38] <GMan> any one know how to get masked ips unmasked
[11:38] <GMan> with xchat
[11:39] <bart416> GMan, uhm dcc to them and list all the connections
[11:39] <mjcohen> while trying to run an install.sh by typing sudo sh install i get an error of can not execute binary file ??
[11:39] <yakumo> ok thnks
[11:39] <bart416> mjcohen, chmod it
[11:39] <v3l0ct> mjcohen, chmod a+x filename and then ./ or sh file
[11:39] <mjcohen> how do I run this file anyone?
[11:39] <scott> I already have a console app that compiles
[11:40] <mjcohen> nice thanks
[11:40] <bart416> when are the patches going to be downloadable crimsun ?
[11:40] <bart416> don't need an exact thing
[11:40] <xipietotec> thanks folks for the help removing kdm...worked out one of my theme problems. What theme manager type thingy (qt, metacity, gtk, etc.) does ubuntu use by default?
[11:40] <crimsun> bart416: they're already downloadable; I pointed you to upstream's tarball.
[11:40] <bart416> Only some sort of guidline in what time span i should check it
[11:41] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, gtk and metacity themes
[11:41] <bart416> you mean this crimsun: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/ ?
[11:41] <xipietotec> cool, thanks. =)
[11:41] <xipietotec> 2.X?
[11:41] <arup> can anybody point me to a IRC server for perl! or  perl regex expertise will also help
[11:41] <v3l0ct> xipietotec, 2.x will look better but 1.x will work too
[11:42] <crimsun> bart416: + alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> wow
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> what a mission linux is :;/
[11:42] <GMan> no one know how to get ips from a masked server
[11:42] <Cyber_Stalker> its so daunting when u first get started :/
[11:43] <mjcohen> still no luck ion the can not execute binary file
[11:43] <v3l0ct> Cyber_Stalker, is like anything else when you first learn
[11:43] <defrysk> mjcohen, run blah.sh try that
[11:43] <GMan> ./file +x chmod
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> thats unfortunatly what windows has over linux :(
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> Cyber_Stalker: Windows to Ubuntu Transition Guide: http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/917/
[11:43] <bart416> well, most of the problems are hardware problems Cyber_Stalker
[11:43] <Cyber_Stalker> user friendly & the ability to do anything quick :(
[11:43] <bart416> My previous computer didn't have any of those cause it was quite old hardware
[11:44] <Cyber_Stalker> but linux still > windows :P
[11:44] <bart416> Cyber_Stalker, I personally think linux is rather easy to use compared to windows
[11:44] <Cyber_Stalker> even when you first started using linux?
[11:44] <scott> crimsun: Installed libgnomeui-dev but still same result
[11:44] <bart416> but yeah, my first 'computer' was a amiga commodore
[11:44] <bart416> Cyber_Stalker, actually yes
[11:44] <mjcohen> no luck with the run command does not exist
[11:44] <bart416> I first installed mandrake cause it was said to be easy
[11:44] <defrysk> my first , zx spectrum
[11:44] <crimsun> scott: is gnome.h in fact the file you need?
[11:44] <bart416> Trashed it for Ubuntu after a week
[11:44] <bart416> lol
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> im starting on ubuntu :P
[11:45] <poningru> guys #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chatter
[11:45] <poningru> this is support only
[11:45] <CompuCh|p> Hi
[11:45] <bart416> sorry poncho1
[11:45] <Cyber_Stalker> but its on the topic of ubuntu :P
[11:45] <bart416> * poningru
[11:45] <bart416> :|
[11:45] <defrysk> BRP!
[11:45] <scott> crimsun: It says file not found and wont even find it if I explicitly point it at the include dir
[11:45] <crimsun> scott: then install libgnome-dev (which is for gnome1.2, not gnome2.x)
[11:46] <mlpug> I also started with mandrake. after ubuntu hype started i did switch to breezy and have been using ubuntu since then
[11:46] <pdaX> what's the difference between installing the desktop and the server of ubuntu.. i'm aiming for a system which will be both, but i'm generally happier compiling my own server-related software..
[11:46] <scott> I have gnome-config.h but I can't do anything with that either
[11:46] <CompuCh|p> I have plugged in my USB (HP Laserjet 1500) printer and it installed correctly, but when I try to print a test page the job disappears from the queue without anything happening on the printer. The cups log shows no errors except " Local authentication certificate not found! " every 3 secs.
[11:46] <poningru> pdaX: with desktop it installs all the gui stuff
[11:46] <poningru> like gnome, and all the packages that are required for a desktop operations
[11:46] <defrysk> server install has no x afaIk
[11:46] <poningru> such as firefox, OOo
[11:46] <pdaX> ok cool.. so desktop + extra software would be the way to go
[11:46] <poningru> right
[11:46] <pdaX> cheers
[11:47] <scott> Ok I'll give it a shot(libgnome-dev)
[11:47] <tuxi> problem gelst schrift jetzt grn
[11:47] <tuxi>  (dumb)
[11:47] <Zambezi> crimsun, I tried now and it starts to send the file, but aborts and says rsync: mkstemp "/USER@IP::/home/.USER.CIgim8" failed: No such file or directory (2). Uppercase means that the original text is replaced.
[11:47] <poningru> !de
[11:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:48] <crimsun> Zambezi: that's a syntax issue, then.
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> pdaX: if you want a gui for your server a lot of people use something like fluxbox as it takes less resources than gnome or kde
[11:48] <tuxi> sorry not the rigth channel
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> ok well
[11:49] <Zambezi> crimsun, Is it because I put two line in the rsync.conf-file in /etc/?
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> the virtual machine gave hell
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> after deleting it & creating a new virtual machine with more space dedicated to it
[11:49] <Cyber_Stalker> its installed fine
[11:49] <crimsun> Zambezi: what did you modify?
[11:49] <sonics> morning guys!
[11:50] <pradeep> sonics, good morning
[11:50] <heikki> morning
[11:50] <Zambezi> crimsun, One second.
[11:50] <defrysk> nn
[11:50] <sonics> haha poningru I just woke up :D
[11:51] <sonics> *g*
[11:51] <sonics> can you guys recommen me a good linux guide!? :)
[11:51] <Zambezi> crimsun, --address=IP // --port=XXXX. IP is IP on this machine. I saved the file as rsync.conf in /etc/. It's a try to block external access.
[11:51] <defrysk> sonics, docs of debian.org ?
[11:52] <sonics> kkkk
[11:52] <CompuCh|p> Anyone familiar with printing / cups?
[11:55] <CompuCh|p> Anyone at all: familiar with printing / cups?
[11:55] <rockstar_> compiz vs beryl??
[11:55] <arup> anyone some perl help or pointer ?
[11:56] <Subhuman> arup, this is a ubuntu help channel
[11:56] <Subhuman> not a perl one
[11:56] <Subhuman> try #perl instead
[12:00] <ese5> ok ... i'm trying to get ubuntu to work with wpa2 - so i installed network manager
[12:00] <ese5> but where the hell is it?
[12:00] <ese5> aren't i supposed to see some applet on the toolbar now
[12:01] <CompuCh|p> nvm
[12:01] <xipietotec> grr....how do you remove a directory with files in it in bash again?
[12:01] <ese5> xipietotec: rm -rf ?
[12:01] <xipietotec> thanks. =)
[12:02] <crimsun> ese5: dpkg -l network-manager-gnome |grep ^ii
[12:02] <ese5> nothing
[12:03] <oscar_> hello, i am trying to fix my xserver that has died, i am running an nvidia 6600gt agp, anybody know a quick way of pulling up gnome (dont need hw accelleration at the moment, i have an assignment due tomorrow!!) theres probably a quick way of doing it, any ideas?
[12:03] <mailinh> ^^,
[12:03] <ese5> oscar: startx
[12:03] <ese5> :-D
[12:03] <mailinh> nono
[12:03] <oscar_> nope
[12:04] <mailinh> how is your prob ???
[12:04] <oscar_> i get an error telling me that i dont have eough power to the card
[12:04] <exhale> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg ?
[12:04] <scott> #gnome
[12:04] <ese5> wtf
[12:04] <oscar_> exhale, will that actually reconfig anything?
[12:04] <mailinh> i think so :)
[12:04] <exhale> oscar_, yes, the x-server
[12:04] <oscar_> wtf indeed, that error if totally false
[12:05] <ese5> oscar: it starts the configuration program
[12:05] <mailinh> have u install your driver ???
[12:05] <oscar_> oh, sweet
[12:05] <oscar_> yes, i used automatix to install the driver proginally
[12:05] <exhale> not enough power for the card? sounds like a hardware problem
[12:05] <mailinh> ????
[12:05] <pradeep> oscar_, I have the same card here, maybe my xorg.conf would help?
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> i get that sometimes on a 7600gs, a rebbot solves the problem
[12:06] <mailinh> i think you should install your card driver
[12:06] <oscar_> sure pradeep, if you can figure how to get me it
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> i guess its a defect of the card
[12:06] <exhale> mailinh, im pretty shure he has
[12:06] <nolimitsoya> *reboot
[12:06] <scott> oscar: what distro + driver are you using?
[12:07] <nolimitsoya> in only on cold starts anyway....
[12:07] <oscar_> ubuntu, automatix's nvidia driver
[12:07] <mailinh> :(
[12:07] <Subhuman> !easysource
[12:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:07] <scott> oscar: Does the card require an extra power source?(Has it worked before?)
[12:07] <defrysk> :(
[12:07] <oscar_> sorry, ubuntu was probably a bit vauge
[12:07] <pradeep> oscar_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/27784/
[12:08] <netG> hi i'm trying to configure firestarter
[12:08] <oscar_> yes, it needs external power and it is getting it
[12:08] <netG> but with no success
[12:08] <koan0815> hi, I try to install Edgy Eft and the installer always says "no root system" although I have selected / for the primary partition ... has anyone a tip ?
[12:08] <scott> Oscar: Are you sure? How old is your PSU?
[12:08] <holycow> ha! easy source is a neat idea
[12:08] <holycow> nice one :)
[12:08] <netG> could it be that my provider is blocking ports???
[12:09] <oscar_> ok guys, thanks a ton for your help, i am going to try this reconfiguring thing and if it dosent work, i;; be back
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> Bonjour
[12:09] <oscar_> scott, yes i am sure
[12:09] <timwizzy> cd ..
[12:09] <exhale> koan0815, i didnt have that problem but it could be a bug. are you using the RC?
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> I'm french
[12:09] <diabolo_nounours> Where is the french room ?
[12:09] <koan0815> exhale : yes the rc
[12:09] <exhale> #ubuntu-fr ?
[12:10] <exhale> koan0815, better report it
[12:10] <mailinh> where is vietnam room ? ^^,
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> thx koan0815
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> thx exhale
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> ^^
[12:10] <diabolo_nounours> :x
[12:11] <{_-IcE-_}> any1 knows if squirrelmail works for pop? as it only has options for imap in the conf :S
[12:11] <mailinh> it wors for pop
[12:12] <mailinh> believe it
[12:12] <mailinh> ^^,
[12:12] <mailinh> or try horde
[12:12] <oscar_> ok, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-org, was that the command?, because that didnt work
[12:12] <mailinh> www.horde.org
[12:12] <{_-IcE-_}> mind telling me how? hehe i got it up allright but when i try login it tries logging in to imap
[12:12] <sacker> -xorg at the end oscar
[12:12] <exhale> oscar_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server-xorg
[12:12] <mailinh> why you dun try horde/imp
[12:13] <the_mike> hi
[12:13] <mailinh> i think it better then squirrel {_-IcE-_}
[12:13] <oscar_> ph, xorg it is
[12:13] <oscar_> cheers
[12:13] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm ill get horde then :)
[12:13] <dumr> what is horde
[12:13] <the_mike> can so help me to set/change the default locale in my ubuntu edgy?
[12:13] <mailinh> www.horde.org
[12:14] <power83> sovvy, what is the name of ubuntu kernel i686 to install?
[12:14] <dumr> question for op: /nick and /quit went down the bridge and /nick fell down. Who stays on bridge
[12:14] <mailinh> uname -r
[12:14] <mailinh> power83, uname -r
[12:14] <mailinh> try this ^^,
[12:15] <{_-IcE-_}> d/loading
[12:15] <mailinh> oke, and download imp also {_-IcE-_}
[12:15] <oscar_> it says x-server-xorg is not installed?
[12:15] <gilnim> hi! i just installed the ati driver from ati - i'm running Xorg version 7.0: i tried to run glx gears and got the following error: "couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual"
[12:15] <{_-IcE-_}> hm, whats imp for ?
[12:16] <KingLear> Okay ,
[12:16] <mailinh> horde is a framework, imp is a webmail run on that framework {_-IcE-_}
[12:16] <{_-IcE-_}> ah ok
[12:16] <{_-IcE-_}> tnx
[12:16] <oscar_> do i need a dpkg command to install x-server-xorg to begin with?
[12:17] <scott> oscar: sudo apt-get install x-xserver-xorg
[12:17] <mailinh> oscar_, find that .deb file
[12:17] <mailinh> and try by dpkg
[12:17] <oscar_> which .deb?
[12:17] <mailinh> i dislike apt-get ^^
[12:17] <{_-IcE-_}> downloading
[12:17] <boink> apt-get works fine
[12:18] <power83> mailinh, ok tahnks, but i need a server kernel and the server doesnt boot
[12:18] <sacker> oscar, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:18] <oscar_> ok, i will go try again
[12:18] <mailinh> :)
[12:18] <mailinh> power83, usually u need to build your kernel :(
[12:18] <oscar_> sacker; thats when i get the not installed error
[12:18] <exhale> apt-get is the best thing ever since sliced bread
[12:18] <sacker> x-server orxserver?
[12:18] <sacker> xserver?
[12:18] <snedar> hey! is it possible to make my ubuntu system safe enough to allow others to ssh into it? I don't want them to be able to view my home directory or edit configuration files etc.
[12:18] <scott>  oscar: sudo apt-get install x-xserver-xorg
[12:19] <boink> snedar: sure
[12:19] <{_-IcE-_}> mailinh: could have told me that horde and imp could be installed through apt-get :p
[12:19] <gilnim> ~$ glxgears
[12:19] <gilnim> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:19] <mailinh> i dunno, it's a php web application
[12:19] <mailinh> i think you should install it by yourself
[12:19] <mailinh> just copy it to /var/www
[12:19] <snedar> boink: do you know of a checklist of permissions to set or something?
[12:19] <boink> it could be an ubuntu .deb
[12:19] <mailinh> very easy
[12:20] <boink> snedar: man chmod
[12:20] <scott> gilnim: What does ~$ 'glxinfo | grep render' return?
[12:20] <boink> with chmod, you can set your own $HOME private
[12:20] <power83> mailinh, the kernel of ubuntu server cd after istallation don't boot, so I chrooted onto it and i will ue apt-get....
[12:20] <gilnim> scott: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[12:20] <trz> hello.
[12:20] <mailinh> power83, wat is your system ???
[12:20] <snedar> boink: okay, I'll do that, do you know whether I should secure other directories too or are they secured by default?
[12:21] <scott> glnim: That's probably not good
[12:21] <boink> if you give nobody else your own sudo passwd, then it's safe
[12:21] <boink> that's linux/unix security
[12:21] <snedar> boink: ok, thanks :-)
[12:21] <scott> glnim: What driver are you using?
[12:21] <oscar_> now apt-get says that the package x-server-xorg dosent exist??, is it called somethig else?
[12:21] <gilnim> the ati driver on the ati.com page
[12:21] <trz> I need help with recovering my hdd after misusing fsck. fsck now shows "root i-node is not a directory. clean?". Any hints?
[12:21] <boink> oscar: apt-cache search x-server
[12:21] <mailinh> oscar_, try to download .deb and dpkg  ^^,
[12:22] <oscar_> cheers
[12:22] <boink> you might need to pipe it to less
[12:22] <gilnim> scott: i'm running 64bit ubuntu 6.06
[12:22] <sacker> Is it not xserver and not x-server?
[12:22] <scott> gilnim: Are you using fglrx?
[12:22] <sonics> when edgy comes out, can one easily upgrade to it?
[12:22] <gilnim> yes
[12:22] <boink> sonics: should be
[12:23] <sonics> ok =) 27.okt right?
[12:23] <boink> though, I'm not sure myself if you will need to redo the xorg.conf or not
[12:23] <scott> gilnim: Make sure module glx is loaded in xorg.conf
[12:23] <trz> Can anyone help?
[12:23] <boink> !ask
[12:23] <oscar_> ok, now this is getting very annoying
[12:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:23] <sonics> haha
[12:24] <mailinh> haha ^^,
[12:24] <gilnim> scott: 'load "glx"' ?
[12:24] <Scorpmoon> how do I view what groups a user is member of?
[12:24] <oscar_> i cant find any packages that look correct
[12:24] <power83> mailinh, VIA EPIA M-10000 Nehemiah i686 compatible
[12:24] <boink> scorpmoon: have a look at /etc/groups
[12:24] <mailinh> power83, that is a server ???
[12:25] <trz> What can be done about "corrupted root inode"?
[12:25] <mailinh> power83, it sounds strange :(
[12:25] <sacker> oscar Are you sure you was typing the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg correctly?
[12:25] <Scorpmoon> boink, it's empty.. if I want to setup ftp access to my /var/www folder, how would I go about that? I don't give that to my main user do I?
[12:26] <power83> mailinh, yeah in my home
[12:26] <power83> mailinh, why strange?
[12:26] <oscar_> sacker, i thought there was a dash between x and server
[12:26] <oscar_> ok, here i go again then
[12:26] <sacker> oscar nope
[12:26] <mailinh> ^^, sure, if it is popular, the kernel work well :))
[12:27] <boink> scorpmoon: you need to install a ftpd
[12:27] <Scorpmoon> boink, i installed vsftpd, but I have no clue how to setup the rights
[12:27] <mailinh> power83, can the live cd boot ????
[12:27] <boink> ok .. that's in the documentation
[12:27] <Scorpmoon> boink, vsftpd has no documentation (for humans)
[12:27] <boink> I've never used vsftpd myself
[12:27] <power83> yeah ad installa correctly, but after reboot the kernel freeze priting the first 2 lines on monitor
[12:27] <nEwB> helllo all
[12:28] <power83> I've tried 2/3 time to install
[12:28] <trz> Anyone willing to help?
[12:29] <nEwB> hello all
[12:29] <astinus> trz, fsck it.
[12:29] <snedar> Scorpmoon: look at the help site of ubuntu
[12:30] <Scorpmoon> snedar, so I did.. I'm still clueless
[12:30] <astinus> Scorpmoon, proftpd then
[12:30] <nEwB> I am trying to mount NTFS partitions on my machine but i keep on getting "You do not have permission" messages.  How do I resolve this?
[12:30] <snedar> vsftp is good
[12:30] <snedar> Scorpmoon: have you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html ?
[12:30] <Scorpmoon> astinus, I presume I'll have the same problems with user/groups setup with proftpd
[12:31] <Scorpmoon> snedar, yes I am exactly at that point.. but this is where user/group setup starts
[12:31] <mailinh> if the livecd can boot, does gentoo know your hdd ??? power83
[12:31] <Scorpmoon> I need to have a web user with access to /var/www, but I just aswell need ftp access to it
[12:31] <wickedpuppy> nEwB, sudo
[12:32] <power83> mailinh, yeah
[12:32] <power83> mailinh, but why you speak now about gentoo??!?!?!
[12:33] <mailinh> ^^, srry, i use both ^^,
[12:33] <Scorpmoon> i give up... saving up for win2003 server :)
[12:33] <snedar> Scorpmoon: do you already have the web user set up?
[12:33] <power83> mailinh, now I'm using gentoo on another machine (desktop)
[12:33] <Scorpmoon> no.. LAMP has root:root on /var/www by default
[12:33] <mailinh> if the livecd know your hdd, i think the kernel is no prob :(
[12:33] <{_-IcE-_}> mailinh : i created the alias for it but for some reason keeps saying page not found
[12:33] <nEwB> wickedpuppy:How do I enable SU in xwindow. I do not want to  "browse" in a terminal
[12:34] <Scorpmoon> I just can't find a good tutorial how to do this the right way
[12:34] <power83> but I would try and test ubuntu server
[12:34] <{_-IcE-_}> directory seems ok
[12:34] <{_-IcE-_}> and apache has been restarted
[12:34] <mailinh> {_-IcE-_}, try to config it like the docs
[12:34] <mailinh> and chmod that folder
[12:34] <wickedpuppy> nEwB, you should be able to read .... ls -l pls ...
[12:35] <mailinh> you could try 777 for easy, but very unsecure :)
[12:35] <{_-IcE-_}> hmm, whats best to try?
[12:35] <mailinh> power83, i think you could try slackware for server ^^, i love that
[12:35] <mailinh> ubuntu is good at desktop
[12:35] <Scorpmoon> ubuntu server lacks documentation
[12:35] <nEwB> sudo mount /dev/hda1 something like will give me permission as normal user to browse it?
[12:36] <Scorpmoon> theres not even an ubuntu server irc channel
[12:36] <mailinh> uhm, see user apache run on
[12:36] <{_-IcE-_}> i think if it was a permission problem it wouldnt say page not found o_o
[12:36] <jaggz> anyone know how to copy to the clipboard in konsole?
[12:36] <mailinh> and chown that user to that folder
[12:36] <mailinh> like
[12:36] <snedar> Scorpmoon: I haven't got much experience with it, but you can try creating a "web" user (through the System Administration thing), then perform "sudo chown web:web /var/www -R". then the local stuff has been set, and you only need to change /etc/vsftpd.conf so that the web user can login (I can help you with that)
[12:36] <mailinh> chown apache -R horde
[12:36] <mailinh> like that
[12:36] <jaggz> like gnome-terminal uses ctrl-shift-c and v, console uses shift-ins to paste, but it doesn't use ctrl-ins to copy
[12:37] <jaggz> s/console/konsole/
[12:37] <power83> Scorpmoon, no matter with docs, I have some experience with server, but when I discovered soe think like this I'm very hurry
[12:37] <power83> mailinh, slackware?
[12:37] <mailinh> ^^, yes, slackware
[12:37] <power83> could you give me some info about it?
[12:37] <mailinh> the oldest linux distro ^^,
[12:37] <{_-IcE-_}>  chown www-data -R /usr/share/horde3
[12:37] <power83> or link?