[12:15] <chovy> still am not finding lame
[12:15] <chovy> toolame, but that isn't LAME
[12:15] <skirk> I think to copy my files via ssh from PC to noteboko
[12:15] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: so, the problem is with the sound system and not with sound card (detection) ...
[12:15] <Jucato> chovy: did you enable the *correct* multiverse repository?
[12:15] <skirk> If we can see it...
[12:15] <magnus_> yeah
[12:16] <chovy> Jucato: i enabled all of 'em
[12:16] <kubuntu_noob> right
[12:16] <Jucato> chovy: no, you have to *add* multiverse. it's not there by default
[12:16] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: start the control center and check if the sound system is turned on
[12:16] <devilsadvocate> skirk, why are you not able to boot into the live cd?
[12:16] <kubuntu_noob> it is
[12:16] <chovy> how do i add it?
[12:16] <skirk> I have insert CD in broke CDROM :D
[12:16] <skirk> lol
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> skirk, boot into windows then
[12:17] <skirk> wait
[12:17] <skirk> 2sec
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> google for explore2fs
[12:17] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: and what output device is being used in the devices/equipment tab?
[12:17] <skirk> ok im on LIVECD
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> use that to extract your data
[12:17] <skirk> I open Terminal?
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> skirk, good
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> yes
[12:17] <skirk> ok
[12:17] <devilsadvocate> open a terminal
[12:18] <devilsadvocate> type sudo fdisk -l
[12:18] <devilsadvocate> what do you see?
[12:18] <ferreteria_> hi
[12:18] <ferreteria_> i have a problem
[12:18] <ferreteria_> with mysql
[12:18] <ferreteria_> can anybody help me?
[12:18] <dima2001> ferreteria_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[12:18] <ferreteria_> :p
[12:19] <LTSmash> ok
[12:19] <kubuntu_noob> advanced linux sound arch.
[12:19] <devilsadvocate> skirk, how much ram do you have?
[12:19] <LTSmash> i have a propblem
[12:19] <distro-tester> devil this is the card i run are there linux drivers for it yet  http://uk.asus.com/search.aspx?searchitem=1&searchkey=7900GS?
[12:19] <chovy> welp, i don't get it.
[12:19] <chovy> i added "multiverse" next to each repo, and still not seeing "lame"
[12:19] <dima2001> hmm, funky
[12:19] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~$ sudo /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root estrella xD -p
[12:19] <LTSmash> Enter password:
[12:19] <LTSmash> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[12:19] <LTSmash> error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
[12:19] <LTSmash> ferreteria@ferreteria-desktop:~$
[12:19] <devilsadvocate> distro-tester, NO ideA
[12:20] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: don't you have by luck a dual-boot to windows and it is a laptop?
[12:20] <LTSmash> :p
[12:20] <devilsadvocate> LTSmash, you put in the wrong password
[12:20] <kubuntu_noob> it is a laptop but only sinlge boot
[12:20] <sparr_> I have a number of hard drives that may or may not be defective.  [How]  Can I check them thoroughly from a boot disc prior to installing linux?
[12:20] <LTSmash> the wrong password?
[12:20] <distro-tester> can u check devil ?
[12:20] <skirk> ok I see all my partition
[12:20] <devilsadvocate> skirk, how many?
[12:21] <skirk> 5
[12:21] <dima2001> hmm, then the weirdness with muting soundcards in windows and being unable to unmute it under linux falls away
[12:21] <LTSmash> devil
[12:21] <skirk> 5 partition
[12:21] <LTSmash> devil but i want to make a new pass
[12:21] <LTSmash> because i put the wrong one
[12:21] <LTSmash> and i dont know it
[12:21] <LTSmash> :p
[12:21] <devilsadvocate> LTSmash,  i dont use mysql much, i dont know
[12:21] <chovy> sound isn't working on my system.
[12:21] <skirk> asd
[12:22] <kubuntu_noob> it's quite strange
[12:22] <LTSmash> devil, juar
[12:22] <devilsadvocate> skirk, which of those is ext2 or ext3?
[12:22] <devilsadvocate> LTSmash, juar?
[12:22] <LTSmash> anyone that knows about mysql?
[12:22] <LTSmash> juar
[12:22] <LTSmash> its like ouch!
[12:23] <sparr_> i have my new hardware, ready to shut down and put together my new PC.  time to make the most important decision: debian or kubuntu...
[12:23] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: although kmix is just an alsa frontend, maybe we missed something. start it and look what the mixer shows. I know of no other issue but just muted channels :/
[12:23] <skirk> I dont know
[12:24] <soulrider> sparr_: ubuntu IS debian
[12:24] <skirk> I think so /dev/hda7
[12:24] <soulrider> just more configured for the not so expert users
[12:24] <skirk> is ext3
[12:24] <devilsadvocate> skirk, which of them say Linux?
[12:24] <devilsadvocate> look at the output carefully
[12:24] <skirk> /dev/hda7
[12:24] <jk_> dima2001 1 sec
[12:24] <skirk> /dev/hda6
[12:24] <devilsadvocate> both of them?
[12:24] <skirk> /dev/hdb5
[12:24] <dima2001> jk_: already woken up? :)
[12:25] <skirk> stop
[12:25] <kubuntu_noob> what is IEC958?
[12:25] <devilsadvocate> skirk, 3 partitions which are Linux?
[12:25] <skirk> /dev/hda7 ext3
[12:25] <devilsadvocate> skirk, now which of those are swap?
[12:25] <skirk> /dev/hda6 swap
[12:25] <skirk> /dev/hdb5 boot
[12:25] <dima2001> some kind of weird AC97 channel, I have it at 0%, too
[12:26] <devilsadvocate> skirk, good
[12:26] <devilsadvocate> now,
[12:26] <skirk> ;)
[12:26] <LTSmash> mmm
[12:26] <devilsadvocate> sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu
[12:26] <LTSmash> do you think taht if i reinstall mysql i may give it a new password?
[12:27] <sparr_> soulrider: im well aware of that distinction.  doesnt make the choice any different.
[12:27] <devilsadvocate> sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /media/ubuntu
[12:27] <skirk> ok
[12:27] <sparr_> soulrider: ive used debian for years.  ive tried kubuntu recently and love it because of the excellent out-of-the-box integration
[12:27] <skirk> perfect
[12:27] <skirk> now?
[12:27] <soulrider> sparr_: are you experienced with linux ?
[12:27] <devilsadvocate> cd /media/ubuntu/grub
[12:27] <soulrider> yeah sparr_
[12:27] <soulrider> well
[12:27] <soulrider> id sy
[12:27] <soulrider> say*
[12:27] <devilsadvocate> still with me?
[12:28] <soulrider> if youre comfortable with debian go for it, but if you dont have time or he patience to configure your system all by hand, i say go for kubuntu
[12:28] <skirk> permission denied
[12:28] <skirk> :/
[12:28] <devilsadvocate> skirk, then use sudo
[12:28] <LTSmash> so debian isnt easy to configure?
[12:28] <devilsadvocate> sudo cd /media/ubuntu/grub
[12:28] <dima2001> kubuntu_noob: hmm, I have to admit, that unfortunately I know of no other hint for you right now. I'm sure it is an issue with alsa, but what it is, I cannot say you right now :/
[12:28] <skirk> sudo: cd: command not found....
[12:29] <skirk> lol
[12:29] <kubuntu_noob> no problem thanks for your help though!
[12:29] <devilsadvocate> cd /media
[12:29] <Linux_Galore> kde 3.5.6 is released, wonder if we will see it on the kubuntu repo soon
[12:29] <dima2001> :)
[12:29] <soulrider> LTSmash: debian is more expert oriented, or i think id say, ubuntu is more newbie oriented
[12:29] <devilsadvocate> cd ubuntu
[12:29] <devilsadvocate> and then ls
[12:29] <skirk> permission denied
[12:29] <soulrider> Linux_Galore: im already running it, i think there is a latest-kde-version repo
[12:29] <LTSmash> well then ill keep my kubuntu
[12:30] <skirk> ok devilsadvocate
[12:30] <Linux_Galore> soulrider: aah so if you have the "latest kde"  repo set up it should update. let me look
[12:30] <skirk> loool
[12:30] <skirk> this partition
[12:30] <skirk> is of WINDOWS :DDDD
[12:30] <skirk> dho!
[12:30] <skirk> my Share HD...
[12:30] <soulrider> yes Linux_Galorei think thats what i have
[12:30] <skirk> X_X
[12:30] <devilsadvocate> you said it was boot didt you?
[12:31] <soulrider> eww, windows
[12:31] <devilsadvocate> skirk, do you have a separate boot partition?
[12:31] <devilsadvocate> for grub?
[12:31] <skirk> wait
[12:31] <sparr_> soulrider: ive been using debian for 2 years solid, off and on before that.  and ive never been able to get it to do some things that kubuntu does automagically, like automount my flash storage devices (and pop up the query window in kde)
[12:32] <jorge_> que onda
[12:32] <jorge_> im mexican
[12:32] <dima2001> good night, #kubuntu
[12:32] <jorge_> i use kubuntu
[12:32] <jion> buenas
[12:32] <jorge_> habemos mexicanos aqui?
[12:32] <jion> Argentino yo.
[12:32] <jorge_> mucho gusto
[12:32] <LTSmash> se
[12:32] <LTSmash> yo soy mexicano
[12:32] <jion> igualmente.
[12:32] <soulrider> hola muchachos, pero acuerdense,
[12:32] <soulrider> !es
[12:32] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:32] <LTSmash> mmm
[12:33] <soulrider> sparr_: i say go for kubuntu then
[12:33] <LTSmash> interesting
[12:33] <jion> Ok, sorry.
[12:33] <jorge_> sorry
[12:33] <skirk> devilsadvocate, ok I have mount right partition
[12:33] <skirk> now im on /grub
[12:33] <skirk> :D
[12:33] <jorge_> in english
[12:33] <jorge_> hehe
[12:33] <johey> Is there some nice way to install Kubuntu on a bootable USB stick?
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> skirk, sudo nano menu.lst
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> wait
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> sudo fdisk -l
[12:34] <pgdown> anyone know how to make audacity not so ugly?
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> make sure you know the partition that has your ubuntu install
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> /dev/hd**
[12:34] <devilsadvocate> then do nano
[12:35] <skirk> /dev/hda7
[12:35] <skirk> ok
[12:35] <skirk> nano
[12:35] <skirk> then?
[12:35] <devilsadvocate> not just nano
[12:35] <devilsadvocate> nano menu.lst
[12:35] <skirk> yes
[12:35] <skirk> :D
[12:35] <devilsadvocate> ok
[12:35] <skirk> im in
[12:35] <devilsadvocate> scroll down to your ubuntu entry
[12:35] <skirk> :P
[12:35] <skirk> ok
[12:36] <devilsadvocate> and find the line we edited earlier
[12:36] <devilsadvocate> what does it say ?
[12:36] <surgy> hello
[12:36] <devilsadvocate> tell me the root = ****** and kernel = ******
[12:36] <skirk> root=/dev/hdc7
[12:36] <skirk> 2.6.17-10
[12:37] <devilsadvocate> change the root to /dev/hda7
[12:37] <skirk> ok
[12:37] <skirk> save
[12:37] <skirk> and reboot?
[12:37] <devilsadvocate> yes
[12:37] <devilsadvocate> and cross your fingers
[12:37] <skirk> perfect ^^
[12:37] <devilsadvocate> :)
[12:37] <skirk> asd
[12:37] <skirk> :D
[12:37] <frojnd> whats the name of openoffice chan
[12:37] <devilsadvocate> asd?
[12:37] <frojnd> and no its not openoffice
[12:37] <skirk> asd = buahahuahuahuauhahuahuahuahuauhauhahuauhahahu
[12:37] <skirk> ^^
[12:37] <skirk> Italian Expression :P
[12:38] <skirk> im italian
[12:38] <skirk> :D
[12:38] <Linux_Galore> YAY! 153mb of updates
[12:38] <Linux_Galore> :-P
[12:39] <monte48lowes> hello...has anyone had any issues upgrading recently?
[12:39] <surgy> i have a rather legthy project that i want to try that is probably way to complex for my little noob mind. but the basic out line is as follows: i want to figure out what resources are needed by everquest running through cedega and then i want to only load those resources on boot and not startx and then i want it to start everquest, so that everquest as 100% usage of all my resources with no background apps running. also it
[12:39] <surgy> whould be nice if in the "log out" prompt if there was an option to log out and back into everquest mode. is this possible? i think it is, if so could someone point me at the first step?
[12:39] <surgy> sorry for flooding
[12:39] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: usually if you have update problems its connected to a third part repo
[12:39] <monte48lowes> ok...
[12:40] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: just disable the third party repo's if you have any, it "may" fix it
[12:40] <surgy> monte48lowes: nah i updated this morning no problem at all
[12:40] <monte48lowes> ok. thanks
[12:40] <monte48lowes> x-server crashes frequently, just curious if anyone else is having a similar issues
[12:41] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: do you have beryl ?
[12:42] <skirk> mmm
[12:42] <skirk> devilsadvocate, can I offer you a beer? :D
[12:42] <skirk> lol
[12:42] <devilsadvocate> you tell me
[12:42] <monte48lowes> yes
[12:42] <skirk> Work FIne
[12:42] <skirk> the problem is fix
[12:42] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: welcome to the realoty of running beta software
[12:42] <devilsadvocate> great
[12:43] <skirk> :D
[12:43] <Linux_Galore> reality*
[12:43] <monte48lowes> I did have it installed, it was one of the packages that was upgraded.
[12:43] <surgy> devilsadvocate : can we strike a deal? ill give you a bum's soul if you make my conscious mind linked with my kubuntu.....
[12:43] <skirk> now i must go in bathroom or i make a disaster!!!
[12:43] <monte48lowes> I have removed it for now, just to check if that was the issue
[12:43] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: beryl is still work on progress and crashes are to be expected
[12:43] <Linux_Galore> in*
[12:43] <devilsadvocate> surgy, no idea what you mean
[12:43] <surgy> lol never mind then
[12:44] <monte48lowes> I understand that...it was working great last night before I did the upgrade
[12:44] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: yeah but you still have the cvs version of xorg
[12:44] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: the cvs version of xorg breaks your dependencies
[12:44] <monte48lowes> 1:1.1.1-0ubuntu12.1
[12:45] <monte48lowes> 1:7.1.1ubuntu6.2
[12:45] <monte48lowes> sorry, there 7.1.1...is that CVS?
[12:45] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: look at the gl  stuff
[12:47] <monte48lowes> ok
[12:48] <elyon225> Okay, guys... I just bought an nVidia GeForce 6200.  I have a Radeon installed now.  I just wanted to know if there's anything I should do before switching them... will the drivers be installed automatically when I reboot?
[12:49] <Linux_Galore> monte48lowes: you may have to run  sudo  dpkg  --configure -a  to fix the package system
[12:49] <monte48lowes> thanks
[12:50] <dante> Hey, I'm French so sorry for my english. Anyone could give me a source.list update for kubuntu 6.06 because I had done really shit on the mine
[12:50] <Phlosten> elyon225: I'd change your driver to the generic vesa one and then change to the nv driver once you have rebooted
[12:50] <elyon225> Phlosten: How do I do that?
[12:51] <Phlosten> elyon225: are you familiar with the xorg.conf file?
[12:52] <elyon225> Phlosten: Fairly... I've edited it a lot trying to get my ATi card working :)
[12:53] <Phlosten> elyon225: just change 'Driver "whatever" ' to 'Driver "vesa" ' and save it
[12:53] <Phlosten> elyon225: have you got beryl or other 3d stuff going?
[12:55] <[1] Dani> does anybody know a driver for dell wireless 1450 dual band WLAN mini pci cardf for kubuntu
[12:56] <Linux_Galore> whats the command to force the install of cached packages, I always forget this one
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Linux_Galore: what is the error?
[12:57] <Linux_Galore> kdm wont go in
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> I actually know why but it wont effect kdm
[12:58] <dope> my mute key doesn't do anything
[12:58] <dope> it says it's muting but i still hear sound
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> dope  use keytouch to set it up
[12:59] <dope> where's that
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> sudo apt-get install keytouch
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Linux_Galore: sudo dpkg --configure -a does it give you errors?
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> gnomefreak: yeah, it spits the dummy on kdm
[01:00] <SkirK_NoteBooK> :D
[01:00] <SkirK_WorKSpace> :D
[01:00] <distro-tester> does fedora seem a right wing distro to u ?
[01:01] <distro-tester> i got this feeling they are a more individualist right wing distro vs ubuntu that's a socialist one
[01:01] <Linux_Galore> gnomefreak: dont worry, fixed it, bloody weird deps
[01:01] <distro-tester> who has this view to about fedora?
[01:02] <distro-tester> i mean their comunity and rest
[01:02] <Linux_Galore> gnomefreak: had to get the gl stuff updated first
[01:02] <gnomefreak> distro-tester: please join 3kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic for that topic please. this is only a kubuntu support channel
[01:03] <distro-tester> ok
[01:04] <Linux_Galore> bugger, still got the qt3-mt-dev  breakage problem
[01:12] <eisenbergs> Hi, Where Can I find drivers that will support a nvidia52000 gfx? thanks in advanced
[01:14] <eisenbergs> uhh?
[01:14] <distro-tester> ALLAH O AK BAR
[01:15] <chovy> how do i get alsa to work? i have no sound.
[01:15] <distro-tester> check out if it's not muted
[01:15] <juano_> chovy: searched alsa in synaptic?
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> chovy: ok. doi you have "two" sound cards  ie on board and pci ?
[01:16] <chovy> no
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> chovy: try running alsamixer
[01:17] <chovy> Linux_Galore: what am i looking for?
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> chovy: muted channels
[01:19] <chovy> nothign is  muted
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> chovy: kmix will do a similar job
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> chovy: open amarok and play something
[01:20] <slyfox_> .
[01:20] <slyfox_> If someone can help me with making konqueror work with firefox. I may even uninstall my Windows .
[01:21] <elyon225> Okay, I installed the card and restarted... everything is  VERY  slow, graphically speaking.  Also, when trying to follow the info on installing nvidia drivers on the website, I can't run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" because it says I don't have the drivers installed (but I have already installed nvidia-glx)
[01:21] <slyfox_> I want to make open and open containing directory in firefox to be able to work
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  ?? konqueror "is" a browser
[01:21] <distro-tester> i keep wanting to try to use fedora but 1 won't work whit my video card 2 don't get along whit comunity id say i give up
[01:22] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: Yes, you know how in Firefox once you downlaod a file it has 2 options: open and open containing directory. These do not work in Kubuntu !
[01:22] <distro-tester> btw linux Galore a user here was right that fedora comunity is made by very intollerant and arrogant people
[01:22] <chovy> it's playing but i don't hear anything.
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_ aaah thats not a problem with konqueror,   firefox is actually a gtk app to will default to the gnome file dialog
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> so*
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> chovy:  I think something isnt plugged in right
[01:23] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: so is there a possible fix ?
[01:23] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: what does gtk stand from ?
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  yeah someone made a gtk-kde  thing but you have to manually play with it
[01:24] <ubuntu_> hi, i think i there is a problem with my xorg that is causing my keyboard to act up, when im logging in to the comp on in another TTY server its fine, but when im acctually logged in i have to hold a key for about five seconds before it will type, im on a live cd now
[01:24] <LjL> slyfox_: the GIMP ToolKit
[01:25] <elyon225> Okay, I my nvidia card and restarted... everything is  VERY  slow, graphically speaking.  Also, when trying to follow the info on installing nvidia drivers on the website, I can't run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" because it says I don't have the drivers installed (but I have already installed nvidia-glx)
[01:25] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: "manually play with it" I am scared of this. I am jsut a noob :-)
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  ok, quick lesson,  kde uses the QT tool kit to develop its desktop enviroment,  gnome uses GTK,  firefox also uses gtk so it will use "gtk" based apps for the file dialog stuff
[01:25] <animimotus> argh, it doesn't work my : tar -cvzf home.tar.gz  ~/.* /media/backupdisk
[01:26] <Minataku> GTK has a built-in file thingy
[01:26] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: ok,
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  it one of those annoying things you cant do anything about
[01:26] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: :-( How do you get around ?
[01:26] <eisenbergs> alright i need help installing this nvidia driver. it says to sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run  but it wont go...
[01:26] <Minataku> In short, blame GTK
[01:26] <animimotus> please, how can I only include all file and directory hided in my tar ?
[01:27] <Minataku> slyfox_: I hated the new Firefox file dialog at first
[01:27] <eisenbergs> any idea? * i'm totally new and just tryingto learn basica unix *
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  I use konqueror for file management and use firefox to only browse the web
[01:27] <Minataku> But once I realized I could set it up to shortcut saving things, I loved it
[01:27] <slyfox_> Linux_Galore: but you do downlaod files on occassion... no ?
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> slyfox_:  yes , I just save that to a default directory
[01:28] <Minataku> Sure, I have to open it up and look if I don't have a shortcut for it, but usually I'm either downloading things with shortcuts or I'm saving a lot of things to once place
[01:28] <Minataku> I assume you're talking about the GTK2 file selector
[01:28] <Minataku> It's not that bad, trust me
[01:28] <Minataku> You'll get used to it and grow to love it
[01:28] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: its still crap compared to the kde option
[01:29] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Well, GTK isn't all that great period
[01:29] <Minataku> Thankfully Firefox overcomes all that
[01:29] <Minataku> I barely know it's a GTK app because it's just so good
[01:29] <Minataku> lol
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: should do soemthing evil like port firefox to qt
[01:30] <Minataku> I know Gentoo has a USE flag to use the old Windows-style GTK1 file selector
[01:30] <slyfox> Minataku: overcomes all that which is what?
[01:30] <chovy> thanks Linux_Galore - i didn't have it plugged in :(
[01:30] <chovy> under my "Settings" menu, all i have is "system log" is that normal?
[01:30] <Minataku> slyfox: The fact that Firefox is the best damn browser ever makes the fact that it's GTK completely insigificant
[01:31] <slyfox> is GTK bad?
[01:31] <juano_> elyon225: you having trouble with nvidia?
[01:31] <eisenbergs> no thats me..
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> slyfox: depends how you looks at it, the license on GTK totally goes against the grain for me
[01:31] <Minataku> slyfox: Nah, it's okay
[01:32] <juano_> eisenbergs: are you running it as root?
[01:32] <Minataku> GTK and QT both have their advantages and disadvantages
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> LGPL = weakens FOSS
[01:32] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to make it so i can see all files, hidden or not
[01:32] <juano_> eisenbergs: sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[01:32] <eisenbergs> juano: i tried putting itin root and it didn't go and then i tried running it from tempt folder andnothing
[01:32] <eisenbergs> Oo sudo
[01:32] <eisenbergs> let me try again
[01:32] <juano_> eisenbergs: ;-)
[01:32] <Minataku> Anyway, I gotta go tweak the SDLMAME 0.111u5 makefile then start up the compile
[01:33] <chovy> i can't play audio over a smb:// share from another linux box.
[01:33] <Aurvandill> What is a good "dock" program?
[01:33] <Aurvandill> kooldock?
[01:34] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Klicker
[01:34] <juano_> chovy: mm works for me, you should check your samba configuration
[01:34] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Kicker I mean
[01:34] <juano_> chovy: you should check the folder permissions in smb.conf
[01:34] <Linux_Galore> the gnome guys are always running around saying, look were so good because SuSE (Novell) and Red Hat are using Gnome as the default, they forget to mention the "real" reason is because GTK is LGPL so allows Red Hat and Novell to link "proprietry blobs" to their code were with QT you cant unless you pay for a license foir QT
[01:34] <Aurvandill> slyfox: Okay.
[01:34] <Minataku> There we go, all in progress
[01:35] <slyfox> juano_: where can I read more about permissions? such as fmask=777 ?
[01:35] <slyfox> Aurvandill: You already have it installed :-)
[01:35] <chovy> juano_: what am i looking for?
[01:35] <eisenbergs> juano:  whats the directory to do it from ur desktop?
[01:35] <juano_> eisenbergs: cd /home/myusername/Desktop/
[01:36] <eisenbergs> Juano: whats cd do?
[01:36] <juano_> chovy: you have to go to your /etc/samba/smb.conf in the linux box that has the shared folder, at then of this file you will see an entry for that folder, check the permissions for it
[01:37] <juano_> eisenbergs: it takes you into the specified dir
[01:37] <chovy> juano_: i can connect to it, i just can't play audio from it.
[01:37] <eisenbergs> k
[01:37] <juano_> eisenbergs: e.g:  cd  /home      takes you to /home/
[01:37] <chovy> write list : @users
[01:37] <chovy> security = user
[01:37] <juano_> chovy: yes, thats why you have to check the folder permissions
[01:37] <chovy> juano_: what perm?
[01:38] <juano_> chovy: you need to add a read only = no to the shared folder
[01:38] <Aurvandill> slyfox: yeah, I noticed the standard thingy is called Kicker :P
[01:38] <juano_> chovy: read only = no
[01:38] <Aurvandill> But in addition to that... isn't there something nice, OSX-style thing?
[01:38] <juano_> chovy: in /etc/samba/smb.conf  in the folder entry at the bottom of this file
[01:38] <slyfox> Aurvandill: I am anoob myself, Where did you see the name Kicker ?
[01:39] <chovy> juano_: i don't think that's it, same problem with fish:// as with smb://
[01:39] <chovy> no input plugin error in Amorak
[01:40] <Aurvandill> slyfox: Wikipedia
[01:40] <slyfox> Aurvandill: I have been searching for one myself 2 days ago and realized that "why would I need more crap, when kicker and katapult do a great job" Wich them you do not have to minimize to desktop all the time. Are you trying to impress your friends or soemthing with it ?
[01:40] <juano_> chovy: well its good to check for it , it wont hurt at all
[01:40] <chovy> juano_: perms are fine.
[01:41] <juano_> chovy: read only = no
[01:41] <juano_> writable = yes
[01:41] <Aurvandill> slyfox: nice, I just tried katapult now :D
[01:42] <Aurvandill> Wikipedia is nice to explain what stuff is :)
[01:42] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Alt+Space
[01:42] <chovy> juano_: yes.
[01:42] <Aurvandill> yeah, I know that now :)
[01:43] <beg1689> ok no one answered (not even a "nope")  in #xorg or #KDE so im asking here: Is there a way to enable vsnyc for the desktop?
[01:43] <juano_> chovy: i had this issue accessing my windows partition
[01:43] <slyfox> Aurvandill: I think I am ready to get rid of Windows. :-)
[01:43] <Oly> Juano:  Alright i'm in dire need to install this nvidia driver b/c on boot it just freezed and crashes. is it even the driver you think?
[01:44] <chovy> juano_: i'm on linux, accessing linux via smb and fish, and amorak gives an error about url protocal not supported.
[01:44] <juano_> chovy:  how about another player?
[01:44] <juano_> chovy: audacious, xmms, kaffeine ??
[01:44] <chovy> same with kaffeine, looks like xine needs an input plugin.
[01:45] <juano_> Oly:
[01:45] <elyon225> !java
[01:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:45] <Aurvandill> slyfox: Yeah, if it wasn't for da gamez
[01:45] <juano_> Oly: it sure can be, boot at a terminal , go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and in the video card section on Driver check to see if its in "nvidia" and not in "nv"
[01:46] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Ah come one, stop wasting time with them...
[01:46] <chovy> kaffeine worked with fish://
[01:46] <elyon225> Okay, I've tried installing that package (with all reps uncommented) and it says it doesn't exist... along with a bunch of other packages I used to be able to install.  What gives?
[01:46] <slyfox> Anyone knows That link to the very latest nvidia driver the 9x series ?
[01:46] <Aurvandill> I'm a gamer :P
[01:46] <LjL> !nvidia9
[01:46] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[01:46] <slyfox> LjL: thank you.
[01:46] <meteor-1500> hi all - are there any repositories with game packages like bzflag and flightgear?
[01:46] <Oly> juano: i can sure boot without it though. what do i with it booted up now?
[01:47] <juano_> chovy: i dont use amarok, i use audacious, works fine for everything , wma, remote files, mp3, etc
[01:47] <Kr4t05> LjL: FOR REALZ?!
[01:47] <Kr4t05> Man, that's teh pwn.
[01:47] <Aurvandill> slyfox: use envy
[01:47] <Aurvandill> !envy
[01:47] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[01:47] <Kr4t05> meteor-1500: Uh... They should be in the main ubuntu repos.
[01:47] <juano_> Oly: go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf,
[01:47] <juano_> Oly: go to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:47] <slyfox> Aurvandill: let me read
[01:47] <Aurvandill> kk
[01:47] <LjL> Kr4t05: that's not even the only repository that has them
[01:48] <elyon225> Okay, I've tried installing sun-java5-jre (with all reps uncommented) and it says it doesn't exist... along with a bunch of other packages I used to be able to install.  What gives?
[01:48] <Aurvandill> slyfox: Just remember to run it outside of X
[01:48] <juano_> Oly: in that file , go to where you see it sais nvidia , etc , with your cards details
[01:48] <LjL> elyon225: i assume you did a "sudo apt-get update"?
[01:48] <meteor-1500> Kr4t05: searching in adept i cant find them
[01:48] <elyon225> lol are you kidding me?  I never forget that either :(
[01:48] <juano_> elyon225: dont install java from repos, download the package from sun
[01:48] <wargas> hi
[01:49] <slyfox> Aurvandill: I think I can. But does it install the latest 9x driver ?
[01:49] <Kr4t05> meteor-1500: Try adding Multiverse and Universe
[01:49] <beg1689> !Nvidia
[01:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <juano_> Oly: ? any luck?
[01:49] <Oly> old computer. very slow
[01:49] <LjL> elyon225: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and perhaps i'll be able to tell you something
[01:49] <Oly> lol O.o
[01:50] <meteor-1500> Kr4t05: ah ok thanks
[01:50] <elyon225> LjL: No.. that was it... I had forgotten to do that.   Just reinstalled Kubuntu and forgot a lot of the little things I needed to do.
[01:50] <Aurvandill> slyfox: the 1.0-9746 ?
[01:50] <wargas> LINUX FOR ALL !!!
[01:50] <juano_> Oly: lol
[01:51] <slyfox> Aurvandill: what is the command to see my current nvidia version of driver?
[01:52] <Aurvandill> slyfox: Don't you have the NVIDIA X Server Settings app under "System" on the K-menu?
[01:52] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Yeah, I got 1.0-9746 is that the one it isntalls ?
[01:52] <Aurvandill> it did for me
[01:52] <chovy> i think i need amorak engine installed ...
[01:52] <juano_> slyfox: alt + F2 , type nvidia-settings
[01:52] <slyfox> Aurvandill: I have the latest driver but no Settins app under Systm, how did you get that?
[01:52] <juano_> slyfox: alt + F2 , type nvidia-settings
[01:53] <slyfox> juano_: how come I do not have Server Settings app under system like Aurvandill has ?
[01:53] <Aurvandill> Hmm... just got there when I installed the driver. It's really nice.
[01:53] <slyfox> Aurvandill: Via Envy ?
[01:53] <juano_> slyfox: try enabling it from settings
[01:53] <Aurvandill> actually I used Automatix the first time, and it was there. But that was an older (non-beta) driver.
[01:54] <Aurvandill> It was still there with envy, just updated with some stuff. Like refresh rate settings and such
[01:54] <Oly> Juano: kay got it loaded up . where do i find the "nv" at?
[01:54] <slyfox> What do you guys thing about the upcoming PCLinuxOS ?
[01:54] <juano_> Oly: ok , scroll down a bit till you see Nvidia
[01:55] <slyfox> I am having a delama, to get PClinuxOS 2007 when it comes out this month or Stay with Kubuntu.  Not sure about RPM packages..
[01:55] <slyfox> Dilema
[01:55] <Oly> juano: dont see nvidia at all * ctrl+f * as well
[01:56] <juano_> Oly: is there a section "Device"?
[01:56] <Oly> juano: i had to take the card out*
[01:56] <Oly> juano: just fyi . LOl. it wont even boot with it in
[01:56] <juano_> Oly: oh lol, with the card out it wont be in there lol
[01:56] <SmaMer> how u can chat and set up a os.. ?? in same time?
[01:57] <Aurvandill> Oly: Eh... what? How do you see anything? Do you have an onboard as well?
[01:57] <Oly> onbaord
[01:57] <juano_> Oly: but can you boot up into a terminal with the card in?
[01:57] <juano_> Aurvandill: he got an onboard yea
[01:57] <Oly> juano:  terminal meaning it starst loading everything to the point where its the _  line that beeps and freezes
[01:57] <Aurvandill> Oly: well, get the nvidia card to work in BIOS first, then worry about setting it up :)
[01:57] <juano_> Oly: from live cd then
[01:58] <juano_> Oly: boot from the live cd and mount your root partition from there
[01:58] <Oly> uhh. so many problems witht he live cd. it wont install with it . it just crashes
[01:58] <flaccid> can somebody get rid of all these flys at home
[01:58] <Oly> or boot with it*
[01:58] <juano_> Oly: boot into rescue mode?
[01:58] <Oly> w/e it is it crashes
[01:58] <Oly> its like linux hates this thing
[01:58] <juano_> Oly: ROFL
[01:58] <hatta> flaccid: cat /home/fly > /dev/null
[01:59] <juano_> Oly: hmm is there anyway to get to a terminal?
[01:59] <flaccid> echo "thanks mate" >> /var/log/hatta.thanks
[01:59] <Oly> juano: whats terminal? * remember totally new to unix operations n all crap like so*
[01:59] <juano_> Oly: when you boot your ubuntu, how far do you get?
[02:00] <Oly> juano:   it mounts things and then right when there is the " _  " that blinks alot it freezes on it. and if i switch it to the onboard while its frozen it looks like a static frozen screen from a teli
[02:01] <Oly> juano:  so I guess right before it brings up the pretty little kubuntu blue it crashes?
[02:01] <chovy> how do i get the icon to minimize open windows?
[02:02] <juano_> Oly: what you mean switch to the onboard while its frozen?
[02:02] <jughead> this might sound dumb... what is the "super" key?  I'm looking at the beryl wiki and the shortcut is "Super+Shift+A.  is it right next to the any key:?
[02:02] <Oly> juano:  I just pop out the monitor vga plug into the onboard
[02:02] <slyfox> WHen installing on a 80 gig laptop drive, how big should the /Root folder be ?
[02:02] <juano_> Oly: is the card well plugged in? how does it show up in BIOS?
[02:02] <juano_> Oly: oh, k
[02:03] <Oly> juano: old bios so it works.. b/c it displays. at least i know its not fried.
[02:03] <flaccid> slyfox: doesn't matter as long as you have room for swap part
[02:03] <Oly> juano:  is there something that needs to be enabled with it or something?
[02:03] <juano_> Oly: in the BIOS?
[02:03] <Oly> juano:  yes
[02:04] <juano_> Oly: hmm not sure, but if you boot up your PC do you get a GEFORCE etc.etc.
[02:04] <slyfox> flaccid: So say for a laptop with 2 gigs of ram- 10 gigs for "/"  2 gigs for "swap" and the rest is for "/home" folder ?
[02:04] <mervteck> anyone got a download link for cadega?
[02:04] <juano_> Oly: cause i get that with my FX5500
[02:05] <juano_> mervteck: cedega?
[02:05] <Oly> juano:  no nothing like that.  This a old sony via..
[02:05] <mervteck> yeah that one! lol
[02:05] <flaccid> slyfox: sounds suffice. i myself would not use home on the remainder. ie. i would leave some for a possible os even if its small.
[02:05] <Oly> juano:  let me check ou the bios fast
[02:05] <juano_> Oly: ok, its good to see if in the BIOS you see it
[02:05] <juano_> mervteck: yeah just a sec
[02:05] <mervteck> kk ty
[02:06] <slyfox> flaccid: but can't I just maybe resize /home later on and make it smaller so that I can isntall some otehr OS ?
[02:06] <juano_> mervteck: its a spanish guide, but ill help you http://www.vivalinux.com.ar/soft/cedega-small-5.2.html
[02:06] <flaccid> slyfox: always risks involved and strictly a need for backup despite small risk
[02:06] <mervteck> lol kk can u message me in pm?
[02:06] <flaccid> i'm talking like even 64mb is enough eg. dsl
[02:06] <juano_> mervteck: download cedega engine 5.2, then download cedega small for Debian/Ubuntu
[02:07] <juano_> mervteck: yeah let me identify
[02:07] <mervteck> engine say file not found
[02:07] <slyfox> flaccid: so how would I organize my Kubuntu isntall? I plan to get rid of windows right now so need to know ho to correctly isntall Kubunut
[02:07] <juano__> mervteck: sec
[02:07] <juano__> mervteck:  im pm you
[02:07] <Oly> juano:  yea i do get a geforce 5200 thing at the very start. Ur right. guess i never noticed it =
[02:08] <juano__> Oly: ok then bios is fine
[02:08] <flaccid> slyfox: organise? the installer should be pretty self explanatory ?
[02:08] <juano__> mervteck: join #juano
[02:08] <Oly> *gets out of bios and restarts and givesz exactly when it crasehs
[02:08] <mervteck> k
[02:09] <flaccid> slyfox: you know what you want so just create it in the parteditor instead of letting the installer use the whole disk and work it out.
[02:09] <slyfox> flaccid: I mean partitions.
[02:09] <slyfox> flaccid: that is what I am aasking. I got a laptop with 80gig drive and 2 gigs of ram? What is the best way to partition ?
[02:10] <flaccid> slyfox: well the order is of parts is debatable
[02:10] <flaccid> same will say swap first
[02:10] <slyfox> flaccid: I just follow the standart "/" "swap" "/home"
[02:11] <Oly> juano:   Its forzen just on a  _
[02:11] <Oly> _
[02:11] <Oly> thats all i see
[02:11] <flaccid> like you said. 2048MB for swap. 10GB for / and the rest minus (say 1024MB) for home
[02:11] <juano__> Oly: try pressing something there, ctrl + alt +F1
[02:11] <Oly> ah. and btw. it frezzes after the  sexy blue kubnt things goes
[02:11] <Aurvandill> alrighty... I installed kooldock. It was nice, but can't place it on top of the screen :/
[02:11] <flaccid> slyfox: yeah. i mean you don't need a separate home but its a good idea
[02:11] <r3d_line> hi all
[02:11] <juano__> Oly: lol
[02:12] <juano__> Oly: ok, try ctrl + alt + F1
[02:12] <Oly> juano: did
[02:12] <Oly> nothing
[02:12] <Oly> juano: its gottta be totally frozen
[02:12] <chovy> anybody know why my Settings menu only has "system log" in it?
[02:13] <slyfox> flaccid: I want to 10 gig for "/"  1 gig for "/swap"  and a seperate partition for "/home" with whatever space I have left
[02:13] <flaccid> yeah thats fine
[02:13] <flaccid> some people like to do swap double the size of ram
[02:13] <slyfox> flaccid: Cool
[02:14] <slyfox> flaccid: I was told that nowadays it is not needed with the modern amount of RAM
[02:14] <juano__> Oly: yeah... no live cd??
[02:14] <excitatory> ~500mb is more than enough swap for most users.
[02:15] <flaccid> thats true. however i've seen people find enough programs to run to start eating into more than 1GB of swap
[02:15] <Oly> juano:   Thats why i went to the alternative
[02:15] <Oly> juano:  same problem. it would crash with the vid card in .
[02:15] <flaccid> im not sure how much multi-tasking you do or heavy processing
[02:15] <ubuntu_> hi, i think i there is a problem with my xorg that is causing my keyboard to act up, when im logging in to the comp on in another TTY server its fine, but when im acctually logged in i have to hold a key for about five seconds before it will type, im on a live cd now
[02:16] <Oly> whats pci/vga palette noop ?
[02:17] <slyfox> flaccid: I do do multitasking, but I even heard that less than 1 gig for swap for 2 gigs of ram, and if I want to be safe then I need 1 gig for swap
[02:17] <flaccid> put it this way
[02:18] <flaccid> 1GB swap is a lot
[02:18] <flaccid> for 2gb ram
[02:19] <slyfox> flaccid: Ok, so am safe and set to go and isntall Kubuntu with 1 gig of swap ?! :-)
[02:19] <Oly> HOW CAN I RESTART MY BIOS WITHOUT A MONITOR?
[02:19] <Oly> ANYONE?
[02:19] <flaccid> slyfox: totallly safee br00
[02:20] <juano__> Oly: restart your bios??
[02:20] <flaccid> Oly: maybe stop shouting?
[02:20] <Oly> yea i just did something badddd with my vga and now i get no visualll
[02:20] <slyfox> flaccid: cool beins :-)
[02:20] <Oly> sorry
[02:20] <Oly> haha
[02:20] <Oly> <3
[02:20] <juano__> Oly: what you do???
[02:20] <slyfox> Guys, one question, why did you choose KDE over Gnome ?
[02:20] <Oly> did something screwy with my bios now i have no monitor!
[02:21] <Oly> anyway to reset the bios?
[02:21] <slyfox> Oly: just select restore to defualt settings and hit F10 ...
[02:21] <Oly> i can't see
[02:21] <Oly> no monitor
[02:22] <slyfox> Oly: no ieda, maybe go read the bios manually to see if there is a way to hard reset it or get the manual online
[02:22] <Oly> Ah. old piece of crapp =/
[02:22] <Oly> bah wait up .
[02:24] <distro-tester> helloooooo
[02:29] <TheHermit> hi Friends
[02:29] <TheHermit> is the IpsFilter Plugin in Azurues is bad or good
[02:29] <distro-tester> u don't like to use bit torrent hermit?
[02:30] <TheHermit> i think that azureus is more faster bec its use the java
[02:30] <distro-tester> i never used it i use bit torrent but maby will try it
[02:30] <eilker> !hamachi
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hamachi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <TheHermit> okay
[02:31] <TheHermit> So Any Idea Peapole Who use Azureus
[02:40] <juano__> Oly: clear CMOS?
[02:42] <juano__> Oly:
[02:42] <Oly> Yess
[02:42] <Oly> I am A Geniuiss got the bios cleared
[02:42] <juano__> Oly: good
[02:42] <Oly> but back to the first problem
[02:42] <juano__> Oly: clear CMOS
[02:42] <flaccid> hehe
[02:42] <Oly> getting this card to work Lol
[02:42] <Oly> cmos?
[02:43] <juano__> Oly: yea on the motherboard you got a jumper to clear the BIOS
[02:43] <Oly> yea. thats wshati just did
[02:43] <juano__> Oly: yea
[02:43] <Oly> its all cleared and back to defualt
[02:43] <juano__> Oly: good
[02:43] <Oly> same problem though with the  vid card
[02:43] <Oly> crashes
[02:43] <Oly> right after the blue ubuntu loads up
[02:43] <Oly> and on the _ bit it frezzes /crashes
[02:44] <Oly> more of a crash b/c i left it go for 30 min and nothing happened
[02:44] <nitro4ce> the gtk-qt engine doesn't do anything at all, and I am left with my standard "boxy" ff/tb windows. help please.
[02:45] <flaccid> did you change the gtk fonts in kcontrol?
[02:45] <nitro4ce> no
[02:46] <nitro4ce> it says: use my kde fonts in gtk applications
[02:46] <nitro4ce> i didnt change that
[02:47] <nitro4ce> i think it's ok
[02:47] <flaccid> what are you trying to do?
[02:47] <ubuntu_> hi, i think i there is a problem with my xorg that is causing my keyboard to act up, when im logging in to the comp on in another TTY server its fine, but when im acctually logged in i have to hold a key for about five seconds before it will type, im on a live cd now
[02:47] <nitro4ce> flaccid: to make gtk applications look like my kde theme.
[02:48] <flaccid> um ok. google that?
[02:48] <nitro4ce> flaccid: http://dot.kde.org/1073599985/
[02:49] <nitro4ce> i cant make it work
[02:49] <Oly> juano:  u go?
[02:49] <juano__> Oly: hmm.. you would need to get the live cd
[02:49] <juano__> Oly: you need to boot into a terminal somehow
[02:50] <Oly> alright. will you be on later?
[02:50] <Oly> gotta download and burn it
[02:50] <juano__> Oly: you told me it hangs after Kubuntu blue logo?
[02:50] <Oly> yup
[02:50] <Oly> with the gfx in *
[02:50] <juano__> Oly: ok, so its not grub problem
[02:50] <Oly> 5200 nvidia pci
[02:50] <juano__> Oly: my girl got the same card
[02:50] <Oly> yea def not grub. everything loads up. kernel is fine. ll that
[02:51] <juano__> Oly: except she uses windowz lol
[02:51] <juano__> Oly: but fx5200 and fx5500 are same settings lol
[02:51] <juano__> Oly: so i can help you get it right
[02:51] <slyfox> When I copy files via cifs file_mode=0777 from my linux box to my windows shared folder, when the files finishes being copied, I get this message: "Could not change persmissiion for.... and it gives me the file name I jsut copied"   What is that ? How do I fix this ?
[02:51] <Oly> yea windows is fine =/
[02:51] <juano__> Oly: ok, get the live cd
[02:52] <juano__> Oly: and boot from there, when your ready tell me
[02:52] <Oly> alright. well i'll msg ya later. *starts dling*
[02:52] <juano__> Oly: ok
[02:52] <Oly> i'll drop you a pm later * <3 thanks for help
[02:53] <nitro4ce> flaccid: am i missing any package?
[02:53] <brett_> hi all
[02:54] <MotorCityMadMan> is this dapper--> Linux 2.6.15-27-386 ?
[02:55] <brett_> i just got a USB headset and i am having trouble getting it to work. The program wants to know where the sound driver is
[02:55] <slyfox> Anyone ?
[02:59] <intelikey> gooday ubu-nauts
[03:02] <slyfox> Can someone please tell me why this gives me permission to write files fine to windows share:  "D -fstype=smbfs,dmask=777.fmask=777 ://<IP_ADDRESS>/D"      and thsi gives me permissiion error?   "D -fstype=cifs,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 ://<IP_ADDRESS>/D"  ?
[03:04] <MotorCityMadMan> is kde 3.5.6 ok to upgrade with dapper ?
[03:04] <intelikey> slyfox cause  file_mode & dir_mode are not recognized options ?
[03:05] <slyfox> intelikey: ? how do you mean >?
[03:05] <MotorCityMadMan> or will there be bugs running around on the HDD ?
[03:06] <intelikey> MotorCityMadMan you mean more bugs ?
[03:06] <MotorCityMadMan> sure
[03:06] <intelikey> possibly-ossibly-ossibly
[03:07] <MotorCityMadMan> kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.6 = good or troubles ?
[03:07] <MotorCityMadMan> for dapper
[03:07] <intelikey> i don't know i'm still hating 3.5.2
[03:07] <intelikey> haven't begun to hate 3.5.5 yet
[03:08] <jmichaelx> is 3.5.6 out now?
[03:08] <aseigo> intelikey: haha... i love your positive outlook
[03:08] <aseigo> jmichaelx: yes
[03:08] <slyfox> intelikey: what should I set instead of file_mode=0777 ?
[03:08] <MotorCityMadMan> update to 3.5.5 caused usb troubles for me
[03:08] <intelikey> well at least i'm positive that i'll hate it.   unlike some that only wonder if they will...
[03:09] <jmichaelx> i have liked 3.5.5 a lot
[03:09] <intelikey> slyfox if ""D -fstype=smbfs,dmask=777.fmask=777://<IP_ADDRESS>/D""   why change it ?
[03:10] <brett_> !sound
[03:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:10] <intelikey> works why change it
[03:10] <brett_> ?
[03:11] <seabra> hello!
[03:11] <slyfox> intelikey: it is a complicated problem, because apperently I can write files fine with smbfs, but amarok only wants to use cifs so that it can fully build my database
[03:12] <intelikey> sounds like amarok issues to me.
[03:12] <slyfox> intelikey: amarok people said it is not :-)
[03:12] <intelikey> lol
[03:12] <chovy> how do i get flash to work ?
[03:12] <slyfox> intelikey: I am reinstalling kubuntu anyway
[03:13] <intelikey> yeah i know it's the old pass the buck game.
[03:13] <brett_> i have a onboard sound card as well as a additional sound card. I just ripped out the second card. Where should I go to remove the card from settings so that linux does not look for it
[03:13] <jmichaelx> does 3.5.6 seem to be working well for those that have tried it?
[03:13] <intelikey> !flash9 | chovy
[03:13] <ubotu> chovy: Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:14] <esaym> anyone have any tips to get a webcam working in kopete?
[03:14] <slyfox> chovy: http://www.diigo.com/redirect?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.getautomatix.com
[03:14] <intelikey> brett_ if the hardware is not there linux wont set it up.   not unless there is something very unconventional there.
[03:14] <esaym> not a webcam on the kubuntu machine but the user I am chatting to in windows using yahoo
[03:14] <brett_> intelikey: ok
[03:15] <intelikey> slyfox automatix ?
[03:15] <intelikey> !automatix
[03:15] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:15] <chovy> what's a "backport"?
[03:16] <intelikey> chovy a repo for things that were released after the distro was released.
[03:16] <brett_> intelikey: i am trying to debug a sound problem and this walkthrough is asking me to type this line
[03:16] <slyfox> OK ! Ready to Unisntall Windows and Go Kubuntu Fully. !
[03:16] <brett_> intelikey:
[03:16] <brett_> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop $ sudo gedit /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[03:16] <brett_>     *
[03:16] <slyfox> I am going to go now and do that :-)
[03:16] <brett_> intelikey: it says that it cannot shut down theALSa card
[03:17] <brett_> intelikey: what am i doing wrong
[03:18] <intelikey> brett_ looks like a syntax error also.   $   is not a command seperator
[03:18] <intelikey> sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
[03:18] <intelikey> sudo kate /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[03:20] <phobiac> Anyone have any experience compiling the Cedega sources?
[03:20] <brett_> intelikey: your right. cool that fixed it
[03:20] <phobiac> I'm using the script here: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[03:20] <elyon225> Well, surprise, surprise!  I have yet another problem I don't know how to start fixing.  I just reinstalled Kubuntu (keeping my original /home partition).  Now, I'm the only user that can login.  The other's get a "Could not start kdedesktop" or some kind of error and are returned to the login screen.  Any ideas?
[03:21] <phobiac> I get partway through make and have a problem, the entire make is here for anyone who wants to help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2938/
[03:21] <phobiac> The error is near the end.
[03:21] <intelikey> phobiac you have build-essential installed ?
[03:21] <brett_> intelikey: i am ready to just reinstall.
[03:21] <intelikey> brett_ reinstall ?   because sound didn't work and you pulled a card ?
[03:22] <phobiac> intelikey: Yes
[03:22] <brett_> intelikey: the program i am trying to get to work wont anymore
[03:22] <brett_> intelikey: something is screwed up with it and reinstalling it does nothing
[03:22] <brett_> intelikey: i am just trying to get a headset working and it is a real pain in the neck
[03:23] <andrea> hi
[03:23] <andrea> i'm new here
[03:23] <phobiac> elyon225: It could be an issue with permissions.
[03:23] <jmichaelx> ok, i am taking the plunge and upgrading to 3.5.6 :-D
[03:23] <intelikey> elyon225 that's because they don't own their home dirs.   command    sudo chown <username>:<username> -R /home/<username>      for each of them.
[03:23] <andrea> there is anyone that speak italian?
[03:23] <elyon225> phobiac, intelikey: Okay, thank you.
[03:23] <phobiac> !italian | andrea
[03:23] <elyon225> intelikey: The -R tells it to be recursive, correct?
[03:23] <ubotu> andrea: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:24] <intelikey> correct elyon225
[03:25] <phobiac> So, anyone have any idea what the problem could be with make? :/
[03:26] <phobiac> The two things I notice are it says, "__stack_chk_fail" and something about wine-preloader which is then followed by an error.
[03:26] <phobiac> I got the wine-dev package to see if it helps but it didn't.
[03:27] <intelikey> elyon225 what happens there is that the first user is allways the same UID   linux doesn't look for names it looks for numbers     echo "$UID"    and if you do not follow the exact same order creating the users as you did the first time the UID's will not be the same...  i.e. not in the same order     so blah's home is still /home/blah but according to the UID tag foo own's /home/blah now...
[03:28] <phobiac> intelikey: He left already
[03:28] <intelikey> hmmm i didn't notice...
[03:29] <phobiac> So, not to be greedy with the help, but you have any other ideas for what my problem could be?
[03:30] <intelikey> pastebin the error    or did i miss that too ?
[03:30] <phobiac> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2938/
[03:30] <phobiac> That's the whole make, it's at the bottom.
[03:30] <intelikey> k
[03:30] <phobiac> Thanks
[03:31] <morphius> I am tryig to set up my computer as a router using dhcp3-server and iptables. I have two interfaces, serving two different physical subnets, all on one vitrual subnet (192.168.0.x). I can obtain dhcp OK on either, but I can only get internet on one. I'm sure I have IPtables configured correctly. The only way to get internet on the other (I tried copying the rules using cut and paste, or simply switching the interfaces on the rules),
[03:31] <morphius> way to get internet on the one which is not recieveing internet requires I physically swap the pci slots to get service. Then the other physical subnet won't work. Any ideas why I can only get one at a time going?
[03:32] <intelikey> phobiac lines 40-42  are the problem    and if a C monkey would tell you how to fix it now you'd be in b'ness
[03:33] <TheHermit> hwo to enable shortcuts for restarting the kubuntu server
[03:33] <TheHermit> ctrl+delet+backspace
[03:33] <phobiac> intelikey: Yeah I figured it had something to do with those lines, maybe I'll see if anyone in #cedega can help. Is there even a #cedega?
[03:33] <phobiac> Yup, there is.
[03:34] <phobiac> Alright thank you for your help, I'll see if anyone in there has any suggestions.
[03:34] <intelikey> ctrl+delet+backspace ?    or ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[03:34] <TheHermit> i dont knwo realy
[03:34] <Octarion> intelikey: CNTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[03:34] <TheHermit> know*
[03:34] <Octarion> :)
[03:34] <Octarion> NO!!!
[03:34] <Octarion> Wait! :P
[03:34] <intelikey> phobiac np.  building source is not my strong suit   cause i don't C  see ?
[03:35] <Octarion> ctrl+alt+backspace resets de Xserver...
[03:35] <TheHermit> okay what ever its it dosent work
[03:35] <phobiac> Lol
[03:35] <malik> hi i have bunch of smilies which work in one user account and not in other user account in amsn 0.96...........any fix for that so that every1 on my comp can use all the smilies?
[03:36] <Octarion> nothing about shortcuts... oh, not icons xD Sorry!!! x:P
[03:36] <intelikey> TheHermit ctrl+alt+backspace can be enabled/disabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf    assuming you use the global config file.
[03:36] <TheHermit> okay
[03:37] <intelikey> back in a bit.   nature demands my attention.
[03:38] <draik> !ssh
[03:38] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:40] <Octarion> !NAT
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NAT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Octarion> :( *snif*
[03:40] <Octarion> !nat
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <Octarion> :____________(
[03:41] <pgdown> !router
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <draik> Octarion: What are you trying to do?
[03:41] <Octarion> How do I activate nat service in my Kubuntu?
[03:41] <pgdown> ip tables?
[03:41] <Octarion> draik, know that :P
[03:41] <Octarion> ip tables? I don't know :\ What are IP tables for?
[03:41] <draik> Octarion: http://www.google.com/linux?hl=en&lr=&q=activate+NAT+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[03:42] <pgdown> !iptables
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:42] <Octarion> draik: na, na, na... it seem "I don't have luck" :P
[03:43] <Octarion> pgdown: but configure nat service by hand? If is by machine it's not cool... ;)
[03:44] <phobiac> Intelikey: Okay I *may* have found a solution, but I don't really know how to do what it suggests.
[03:44] <phobiac> http://www.briggs.net.nz/log/2006/11/21/problems-compiling-cedega/#comments
[03:45] <phobiac> It says to edit the makefile, is the the file called make in the directory that the sources are being compiled?
[03:46] <intelikey> Makefile is called Makefile
[03:46] <phobiac> Ah okay
[03:46] <phobiac> I'll check for it in the directory
[03:47] <JRH3K5> Pardon; is there any risk in allowing Kubuntu and Fedora Core to use the same partition as swap when the two OS'es will not be running concurrently?
[03:48] <pgdown> I think it's ok
[03:48] <intelikey> JRH3K5 i don't see any risk in it.
[03:48] <JRH3K5> I figured there wouldn't be a problem.  But, hey, what do I know? :P
[03:48] <intelikey> JRH3K5 how much ram do you have ?
[03:48] <Slackwise> No, there should be absolutely no problem.
[03:49] <Slackwise> A swap partition is a swap partition. It doesn't retain any data (well, it does, but it isn't accessible) per boot, so it shouldn't matter.
[03:50] <brett_> is there a way to reset all sound configurations?
[03:50] <JRH3K5> I was wondering if it was possible for an OS to leave something in swap if it needs to reboot to implement some sort of update
[03:50] <pgdown> brett_ : sound configurations?
[03:50] <brett_> pgdown: yes
[03:50] <pgdown> meaning?
[03:51] <brett_> pgdown: meaning i have been messing with my audio settings and i would like to redetect all devices and return to the defiault settings
[03:51] <intelikey> JRH3K5 linux wouldn't do that.     the only reason to reboot would be to run a different kernel    "or libc but it's not mandaroty there, only advisable."
[03:51] <pgdown> brett_: try alsamixer maybe?
[03:51] <pgdown> open terminal and enter alsamixer
[03:52] <brett_> pgdown: then what?
[03:52] <pgdown> and then modify as needed...
[03:53] <pgdown> I dont know of any way to "reset" everything to default
[03:53] <crimsun> sure there is.
[03:53] <brett_> i want it to detect my sound settings and my sound card
[03:53] <pgdown> it?
[03:53] <crimsun> kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sync && reboot -f
[03:54] <brett_> crimsun: is that last command for me?
[03:54] <crimsun> that removes any existing mixer state written to the HD.
[03:54] <crimsun> alsactl store will then fail on reboot, which can be ignored since you've already removed the state file.
[03:54] <phobiac> Well that didn't fix it. :(
[03:55] <brett_> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec]
[03:55] <brett_> that is what it said
[03:55] <crimsun> brett_: hw "detection" is always done per-boot.
[03:55] <Prisoner_> hello
[03:55] <crimsun> brett_: did you copy and paste?
[03:55] <brett_> crimsun: oh
[03:55] <brett_> crimsun: yes
[03:56] <crimsun> brett_: so proceed with the second portion.
[03:56] <intelikey> is lsof installed by default ?
[03:56] <brett_> crimsun: so the command you gave me ran?
[03:56] <brett_> crimsun: it seemed like that was an error
[03:57] <phobiac> Bah, I give up. I'll find some way to see if I can get wine to work with this game.
[03:57] <brett_> phobiac: which game?
[03:57] <intelikey> kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) ;sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') ;sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state ;sync && reboot -f   <<<< brett_ try that one.    note it will reboot your box.
[03:57] <phobiac> War Rock
[03:58] <brett_> intelikey: ok cool... see you in a bit
[03:58] <crimsun> intelikey: it's a dependency of ubuntu-standard, which is seeded by default
[03:59] <intelikey> hmmm ok.   was just checking.   i don't have it and didn't know for sure that it was default.
[04:00] <brett> that was fun
[04:00] <brett> thats guys... lets see if that helped at all
[04:01] <sparr> checking my hard drives for defects one at a time...  gonna take all night  :(
[04:01] <sparr> in the mean time, need help with drivers
[04:02] <sparr> using the kubuntu desktop cd, i cant get my RTL8211 network to work, or my ALC883 audio.  any pointers?
[04:02] <dmitri> does anyone know how to change keyboard layout?
[04:03] <intelikey> !keyboard
[04:03] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[04:03] <brett> intelikey: well that did something
[04:04] <dmitri> ubotu: I want to change keys actually.
[04:04] <intelikey> !Shortcuts
[04:04] <brett> intelikey: how do i set my default sound device to a USB headset?
[04:04] <crimsun> brett: asoundconf list
[04:04] <crimsun> brett: (what's the output?)
[04:05] <intelikey> brett you need to be asking crimsun    not me.
[04:05] <brett> intelikey: ok :-)
[04:05] <brett> crimsun: a game i play
[04:05] <brett> crimsun: actually i am more interested in the input
[04:05] <crimsun> and I'm asking you for the output from the command I just gave you.
[04:05] <brett> crimsun: i am trying to get this headset to work, i really just want the mic to work
[04:05] <brett> oh
[04:06] <brett> Names of available sound cards:
[04:06] <brett> V8237
[04:06] <brett> Headset
[04:06] <crimsun> brett: asoundconf set-default-card Headset
[04:06] <crimsun> brett: then restart the sound app
[04:06] <crimsun> brett: (which sound app is it, anyhow?)
[04:06] <brett> Teamspeak
[04:06] <crimsun> ugh.
[04:06] <crimsun> that's much more complicated
[04:06] <brett> your telling me
[04:06] <Anything> hi, anyone got experience using netgear dual wan ports prosafe vpn firewall?
[04:06] <crimsun> can you just configure teamspeak to use /dev/dsp1 ?
[04:07] <brett> crimsun: im starting to wish they use skype as that seems easier
[04:07] <brett> crimsun: i could... let me try that first
[04:07] <crimsun> brett: note that using TS will prevent all other apps from using that Headset.
[04:07] <sparr> can anyone recommend a tool like badblocks that can do read/write checking on a hard drive, but that will check nonsequential blocks, at random or in order?  i dont want to exhaustively list my bad blocks, i just want to audit (say) 1% of the blocks to see if the drive is failing
[04:08] <elyon225> Could someone tell me how to create a new entry in my login screen to login to Xgl?
[04:08] <brett> crimsun: thats cool. I bought the headset just for teamspeak
[04:08] <crimsun> sparr: instead of say, smartmontools?
[04:08] <crimsun> specifically its smartctl
[04:09] <sparr> crimsun: can smartctl do non-exhaustive testing?
[04:09] <brett> crimsun: that didn't work
[04:09] <brett> crimsun: i do not think teamspeak likes the headset
[04:09] <brett> crimsun: it has a mute next to my name since i set it as the default device
[04:11] <crimsun> brett: that's not important; TS uses OSS emulation
[04:11] <crimsun> brett: what's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/devices && amixer -c1''?
[04:11] <crimsun> use paste.ubuntu-nl.org, please
[04:12] <brett> crimsun: yeah... long output
[04:12] <juano__> !beryl | elyon225
[04:12] <ubotu> elyon225: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:12] <juano__> elyon225: that might have something about it
[04:12] <ralph> hello all
[04:12] <brett> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2941/
[04:13] <brett> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2941/
[04:13] <Anything> hi anyone knows how to stop my router from dialing out to isp, and let me use winpoet or enternet to dail instead?
[04:13] <ralph> I am running edgy and seem to have a problem running KDE Konqueror.  I get weird and slow reaction to use details view
[04:14] <elyon225> juano__: I followed the instructions on there to install Xgl into the login manager, but it hasn't shown up.
[04:14] <elyon225> I have already tried restarting X, too.
[04:14] <crimsun> brett: you probably need to use alsamixer to toggle the mic for capture, then actually unmute the mic.
[04:14] <BluesKaj> router dialing ?
[04:14] <brett> crimsun: that alsamixer is textbased and I do not know how to navigate it
[04:14] <juano__> elyon225: let me check, one sec
[04:15] <xsacha> brett: kmixer
[04:15] <brett> crimsun: can i use kmix instead?
[04:15] <xsacha> yeah kmix
[04:15] <brett> crimsun: how do i toggle the mic for capture? does that involve hitting the red or green button? because I am really curious what they do
[04:16] <xsacha> green button = unmute, red = capture?
[04:16] <xsacha> red = record
[04:16] <Anything> sorry adsl router dialing
[04:16] <BluesKaj> sacktime ... nite all
[04:16] <xsacha> it says what it is when you hover mouse over it
[04:18] <JRH3K5> Any idea why QTparted, under the Knoppix Live! CD, lists hda as busy?
[04:18] <jarn> How do I set the output file and directory with wget? Or can't I?
[04:18] <brett> i think it is working now
[04:19] <xsacha> JRH3K5: perhaps it automounted it
[04:19] <juano__> elyon225: check this out
[04:19] <juano__> elyon225: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[04:19] <JRH3K5> How does one go about stopping it from being auto-mounted?
[04:19] <juano__> elyon225: go to the Adding a XGL login session
[04:20] <elyon225> juano__: Those are the exact instructions I followed, but Xgl still doesn't appear in the login screen.
[04:20] <intelikey> JRH3K5         -O file
[04:20] <intelikey>        --output-document=file
[04:20] <juano__> elyon225: how abou this? To create the login entry, create a new file /etc/X11/sessions/xgl.desktop
[04:21] <juano__> elyon225: did you read that part?
[04:21] <JRH3K5> I should enter -O file --output-document=file into the terminal?
[04:21] <elyon225> juano__: Yep... and I pasted what it said to paste in it.
[04:21] <JRH3K5> I tried umount /dev/hda/, but it says that it's not mounted
[04:22] <juano__> elyon225: mm that should work , try a sudo ls /etc/X11/sessions/ and see if the file is in there right
[04:22] <elyon225> juano__: Yep... it's there.
[04:23] <juano__> JRH3K5: you dont umount /dev/hda , u need to umount your mount point
[04:23] <elyon225> juano__: I opened it in kate and it has the correct info in it.
[04:23] <juano__> elyon225: mm i see.. let me think
[04:23] <intelikey> JRH3K5 as for wget    man wget   and  hit / type  Directory Options  hit enter.      as for mount.  most people don't mount fixed disks they mount partitions on the disk.
[04:23] <surgy> whats the defualt directory to sources.list?
[04:24] <surgy> etc/apt/  ?
[04:24] <intelikey> err actually fs's in the partitions on the disk
[04:24] <intelikey> yep
[04:24] <intelikey> /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <brett> Guys thanks alot it is working great
[04:25] <intelikey> juano__ you can umount a device as easy as a mountpoint   ffr
[04:26] <JRH3K5> Wait...what?  wget is used for downloading files...how would that stop /dev/hda from being busy?
[04:26] <prueba> :)
[04:26] <_AnitA_> hola
[04:27] <juano__> _AnitA_: hola, hablas espaol? entra a #ubuntu-es
[04:27] <prueba> thx
[04:27] <intelikey> one can:    sudo umount /dev/* 2>/dev/null      if one needs too.
[04:27] <_AnitA_> thx juano
[04:28] <_AnitA_> i can not get in in this channel
[04:28] <_AnitA_> can u make me a favor
[04:28] <juano__> _AnitA_: ?
[04:28] <_AnitA_> can u just for a moment joint to kubuntu-es
[04:28] <_AnitA_> and talk there
[04:28] <JRH3K5> But it's not listing them as mounted
[04:28] <JRH3K5> It says that none of the partitions are mounted
[04:28] <juano__> _AnitA_: sure
[04:28] <_AnitA_> just to see what is hapened
[04:28] <_AnitA_> thx
[04:28] <Jucato> !es
[04:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:28] <Jucato> there's also #kubuntu-es
[04:30] <intelikey> JRH3K5 may i ask what you are trying to do ?
[04:30] <prueba> dfjslfjsldkfjsldf
[04:30] <JRH3K5> Wipe the partitions, and then create one ext3 partition (30GB), one ext3 partition (40GB), one NTFS partition (49 GB), and a linux-swap partition (2GB)
[04:31] <JRH3K5> However, I can't wipe the current partitions using QTparted under Knoppix Live! because it lists /dev/hda as being busy
[04:31] <intelikey> the whole disk ?
[04:31] <JRH3K5> Yes
[04:32] <intelikey> if dev/hda is busy then that's probably the cd
[04:32] <intelikey> JRH3K5 do;  mount
[04:32] <Oly> jauno awake?
[04:32] <jarn> What's a place that will let me upload a file and won't ditch it after awhile (like Rapidshare)?
[04:32] <JRH3K5> /dev/hdb is the CD-ROM
[04:32] <intelikey> see if it sheds any light
[04:32] <juano__> Oly: yes
[04:32] <elyon225> juano__: Find anything? :)
[04:32] <juano__> Oly: lol, just came back
[04:33] <JRH3K5> intelikey - it's got /dev/root and /dev/hdb mounted
[04:33] <Oly> juano: gues it was distiny
[04:33] <JRH3K5> /dev/hda isn't mounted anywhere
[04:33] <juano__> elyon225: mm not really, i have beryl installed
[04:33] <juano__> elyon225: it worked with those instructions, be sure you are making all the steps right
[04:34] <intelikey> JRH3K5 ok.   close parted for a minute. and do: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda count=2048
[04:34] <juano__> Oly: did you get the live cd_
[04:34] <elyon225> juano__: Yeah, I guess I'll just follow them again. Now, I have xgl and beryl installed (beryl is running right now just fine)... should I just start after the installation steps?
[04:34] <intelikey> JRH3K5 then reopen parted  it will ask if you want to make a new empty partition table.
[04:35] <juano__> elyon225: well all you need is the Xgl session
[04:35] <juano__> elyon225: for the menu
[04:35] <JRH3K5> There we go.
[04:35] <JRH3K5> Thank you
[04:35] <Oly> juano yea. i got the live cd. should i go ahead and  put my card back in?
[04:35] <intelikey> JRH3K5 np
[04:35] <juano__> elyon225: so i would concentrate on that, if beryl is working good then its fine
[04:35] <juano__> Oly: yes and boot from cd
[04:35] <Oly> k
[04:35] <elyon225> juano__: Yeah... just want it to always start up when I log in.
[04:35] <JRH3K5> intelikey - wait, nevermind.  It's listed as readonly and QTparted can't make a new partition table
[04:36] <intelikey> yes you can.  make a new partition table
[04:36] <intelikey> empty one.
[04:36] <Anything> help, how do i set a gateway manually?
[04:36] <juano__> elyon225: im not sure how to accomplish that, cause i have it installed but i use it only some times, just for fun/testing
[04:36] <JRH3K5> intelikey - I right-click on /dev/hda and click "Make new partition table".  It tells me it can't.
[04:37] <intelikey> JRH3K5 but if you prefer just use cfdisk to make the partitions.
[04:37] <jackson> i have just installed Drapper ..is it possible to upgrade straight away to Edgy without doing the updates first?
[04:37] <juano__> Anything: with the route command
[04:37] <juano__> Anything: what is your ip gateway number_
[04:37] <intelikey> JRH3K5 did you run it as root ?
[04:37] <elyon225> Yeah, I guess it really isn't a necessary feature ;)
[04:37] <juano__> elyon225: i like the skydome ! :-)
[04:38] <JRH3K5> intelikey - Run QTparted?  No; I wasn't aware it required that.  Can I just do sudo qtparted from the terminal?
[04:38] <intelikey> JRH3K5 mussent mussent forget root, naughty naughty.
[04:38] <Anything> ok my ip gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:38] <elyon225> juano__: I don't notice any difference when I enable that...
[04:38] <intelikey> yes
[04:38] <JRH3K5> I've not need to run QTparted as root before :(
[04:38] <juano__> Anything: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:38] <Anything> ok thanks alot
[04:38] <Anything> i might dc now
[04:38] <elyon225> juano__: I do, however, like the Show Desktop feature... that I would use quite often.
[04:39] <juano__> elyon225: you need to lower the cube zoom
[04:39] <surgy> when i try to mount my ipod i get this error "
[04:39] <surgy> Return code from mount was 32.
[04:39] <surgy> "mount failure"
[04:39] <elyon225> juano__: Ahh... lemme see what it does :)
[04:39] <juano__> elyon225: you should join #beryl also, they can help you there with everything im sure
[04:39] <elyon225> oh yeah
[04:39] <Anything> juano__: how do u delete an existing default gateway?
[04:40] <Anything> default         <IP_ADDRESS>      <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[04:40] <juano__> Anything: route del
[04:40] <juano__> Anything: with the del, opposite of add
[04:40] <elyon225> juano__: Where is the setting for cube zoom?
[04:40] <juano__> elyon225: mm dont remember well, its near the skydome options
[04:41] <juano__> elyon225: one of the 2 horizontal bar tabs.. somewhere there
[04:41] <elyon225> juano__: Hmm... I don't even have any .PNG photos to try it with lol
[04:42] <juano__> elyon225: i had a link a guy in #beryl gave it to me
[04:42] <juano__> elyon225: just a sec
[04:42] <juano__> elyon225: for .png skydomes
[04:42] <anything1> hi juano__: when i type arp -n how come it still shows the old gateway?
[04:43] <juano__> anything1: not sure, never tried arp -n, probably del didnt go well
[04:43] <juano__> anything1: dont worry about old entries, just add your entry to the table
[04:43] <juano__> anything1: it should work fine
[04:43] <anything1> ok thanks
[04:44] <Oly> juano: kay checked te cd. no problems with the disk
[04:44] <anything1> hey
[04:44] <anything1> [Whois]  Anything is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(zzz)
[04:44] <juano__> anything1: also, its good to try a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart to change effects, but on route changes dont bother i guess
[04:44] <Oly> juano: what should i boo out of?
[04:44] <Oly> boot*
[04:44] <anything1> [Whois]  anything1 is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(zzz)
[04:44] <anything1> does that means my isp changed, after i changed my gateway?
[04:44] <juano__> Oly: press enter on the first option in the menu "Install or Run ubuntu" if i recall well
[04:45] <intelikey> JRH3K5 how goes the war ?
[04:45] <Oly> juano: start or install kubuntu *  yes?
[04:45] <Oly> juano: ther eis also start kubuntu in safe graphics mode
[04:45] <jughead> what's a nice simple movie editor for kubuntu?  I have some .mov's that I made with a digital cam on new year's eve and I'd like to string them together and maybe put some text in with them
[04:45] <Oly> juano: do remember its aactually installed on the system
[04:46] <Oly> and i love you <3
[04:46] <juano__> Oly: yes, that option only runs an ubuntu kernel up to memory
[04:46] <intelikey> odd qtparted doesn't detect but one device in this box.  i have 8 disk drives....
[04:46] <elyon225> juano__: Oooh... i'm liking the skydome ;)
[04:46] <Oly> juano: so start or install kubuntu * ?
[04:47] <juano__> elyon225: http://goberylgo.blogspot.com/search/label/imagenes png its in spanish but just click on the pics and download them
[04:47] <surgy> man i really need help with this ipod, i got it to mount but for some reason amarok wont recognize it
[04:47] <juano__> Oly: yes
[04:47] <Oly> k
[04:47] <juano__> Oly: you will get to a desktop loaded in memory, so changes wont save there
[04:48] <juano__> Oly: once you are there, we have to mount your root partition to go into your files
[04:48] <juano__> Oly: once we do that, we have to check xorg.conf and i will give you some lines to put in there and see if it works
[04:49] <Oly> lOl juano ur gonna get a kick out of this
[04:49] <Oly> it froze on the same thing on the live cd
[04:50] <anything1> anyone knows about dual wan setups? sigh..was trying to merge 2 isp using rollover/load-balancing
[04:50] <anything1> !dmz
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <anything1> !multicast
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multicast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <juano__> Oly: wait a couple of minutes
[04:50] <Oly> k. i'll just let it sit
[04:50] <Oly> remind me in a hour ^.^ lol
[04:50] <juano__> Oly: you have to wait like 2 minutes min
[04:50] <Oly> =p
[04:50] <juano__> Oly: how much ram u got in the PC:_
[04:51] <Oly> 387 =/
[04:51] <juano__> Oly: 384 you mean
[04:51] <juano__> Oly: fair enough
[04:51] <Oly> yea. sorry its 38 something
[04:51] <Oly> =/
[04:52] <Oly> but if i were to take the vid card out and try again it would work ....
[04:52] <juano__> Oly: yep 256 + 128
[04:52] <Oly> yup
[04:52] <Oly> still forzen
[04:52] <Oly> frozen*
[04:52] <juano__> Oly: mm.. try booting the live cd with onboard card
[04:53] <Oly> * so otherwise taking out the card*
[04:53] <juano__> Oly: is this happening on other OS_
[04:53] <juano__> like windows?
[04:53] <juano__> Oly: or only ubuntu?
[04:53] <Oly> nope works fien with windows
[04:53] <juano__> Oly: which monitor you got?
[04:53] <Oly> ubuntu and knobbix
[04:53] <Oly> only linux distros
[04:54] <juano__> Oly: try rebooting live cd
[04:54] <Oly> yea trying right now
[04:54] <juano__> elyon225: yea skydomes are cool
[04:57] <juano__> Oly: ill be right back
[04:57] <Oly> juano: just loaded up
[04:57] <Oly> kk
[05:01] <surgy> how do i make a link to a comand?
[05:01] <surgy> like if i want a button on my desktop that will umount /media/ipod
[05:02] <intelikey> script it
[05:03] <juano__> Oly: ok
[05:03] <juano__> Oly: your in?
[05:03] <intelikey> echo "umount /media/ipod" > ~/Desktop/UnMount\ ipod ;chmod 755 ~/Desktop/UnMount\ ipod
[05:03] <intelikey> surgy ^
[05:04] <surgy> thnx
[05:04] <Oly> yea. with out the video card in
[05:04] <Oly> same thing as the regular kubuntu*
[05:04] <juano__> Oly: so your with onboard one
[05:04] <Oly> yea
[05:04] <juano__> Oly: ok
[05:04] <Oly> it works fine with onboard
[05:04] <Oly> but same freeeze even with the ubuntu cd in
[05:05] <juano__> Oly: we need to find out what partition is your root partition
[05:05] <juano__> Oly: are you on the live cd desktop now_
[05:05] <Oly> yea
[05:05] <Oly> wnat me to reboot with regular?
[05:05] <juano__> Oly: no
[05:06] <juano__> Oly: when you boot with your Nvidia regular, it doesnt work, if you boot regular with onboard it doesnt work, if you boot with live cd with nvidia it doesnt work either right?
[05:06] <surgy> when i unplug my ipod it does auto umount
[05:07] <_AnitA_> Hi juano_ or someone knows if kopete suport webcam and microphone? thx
[05:07] <Oly> nono
[05:07] <juano__> _AnitA_: get amsn, http://amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[05:08] <juano__> Oly: ? how is it then
[05:08] <Oly> juano:  if I boot with onboard with both live cd and from hd its fine.  If i boot with the nvidia  it loads up everything and right when it gets out of the loading cscreen it gets frozen on the " - "   which blinks
[05:08] <Oly> so anything with the card it freezes right there
[05:08] <_AnitA_> but does kopete supports?
[05:08] <juano__> Oly: ahh even live cd?
[05:08] <juano__> _AnitA_: im not sure i dont use kopete or gaim much
[05:08] <intelikey> frozen on the " - "   ?
[05:09] <juano__> _AnitA_: try google.com and search u might find something
[05:09] <_AnitA_> thx
[05:09] <Phlosten> _AnitA_: kopete has webcam settings so i assume so
[05:10] <Oly> yea even the live cd
[05:10] <Oly> its the vid card
[05:10] <Oly> bah
[05:10] <juano__> Oly: well then if you can go in with onboard regular boot, then regular boot and get into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:10] <Oly> so i was thinking mabye it isn't enabled * or this card* and maybe i should reboot with the hd and install the drives turn it off and try to boot up again
[05:10] <juano__> Oly: exaclty
[05:10] <Oly> kay juano . give me 1 sec
[05:11] <juano__> Oly: k, boot into regular ubuntu from HDD
[05:12] <jarn> What does sh do? If I'm understanding it correctly, it just executes commands from a file. But what is the point of that when you can just mod the file executable and run it?
[05:13] <juano__> jarn: sh executes shell script files
[05:13] <jarn> juano__: What are those?
[05:14] <intelikey> sh  executes a "shell"    ls -l /bin/sh
[05:14] <juano__> jarn: you can execute files in various shells, sh bash bsh, etc
[05:15] <juano__> jarn: sh is one of them
[05:15] <intelikey> any shell can run a file.sh    observe: tty2 [greg@~]  echo "echo boo" > something.sh
[05:15] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  bash something.sh
[05:15] <intelikey> boo
[05:16] <jarn> intelikey: Can't any shell run a regular file too, containing commands such as "apt-get install xxx", etc?
[05:16] <intelikey> sh in ubuntu is a symlink to either bash or dash
[05:17] <intelikey> jarn what you describe is what i just did.
[05:17] <Tonren> I just installed lighttpd, but I want Apache to be the server that actually runs.  How do I stop lighttpd from starting on bootup?
[05:17] <jarn> intelikey: So what is the point of running a file with that command with sh as opposed to without it?
[05:17] <intelikey> jarn try it.
[05:18] <juano__> jarn: well sometimes it makes a difference, for example limewire has an issue needs to be run with bash and not sh
[05:19] <surgy> YES ipod and amrarok are now making love!!! its a glorius site!
[05:19] <intelikey> yes shell specific code is another issue altogather.
[05:19] <juano__> Oly: are you here?
[05:19] <jarn> intelikey: It worked with both the bash and sh command, but when I just typed in something.sh it says 'Permission denied'.
[05:19] <Oly> yea i'm here
[05:19] <Oly> kubuntu just crashed
[05:19] <Oly> soo one sc
[05:19] <Oly> lol
[05:19] <intelikey> jarn exactly   that's the point.
[05:20] <jarn> intelikey: So it let's you do it without modding it executable?
[05:20] <jarn> intelikey: Maybe I'm missing something, but that's the only benefit I see.
[05:20] <intelikey> jarn now if you set the permissions on it to executable then you don't need to use a shell to open it.    yes that ^
[05:20] <jarn> intelikey: Ah, I see.
[05:21] <jarn> intelikey: Nifty, thanks. I'm writing a script that will run certain commands and I had seen some use sh so I wondered what it was. Thanks a lot. :D
[05:21] <intelikey> jarn if you have a script that is set executable it automatically runs in a subshell  if the permission is not +x then you have to shell it.
[05:22] <Oly> juano: whats the file again?
[05:22] <jarn> intelikey: Yeah, I get it now. Thanks a lot.
[05:22] <juano__> Oly: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <Oly> kk
[05:23] <Oly> okay there
[05:23] <surgy> ide hard dicks are labeled as "hda" and sata are listed as "sda" right?
[05:23] <Tonren> Anyone?  How do I remove a process from bootup?
[05:23] <juano__> Oly: pastebin the contents please
[05:23] <Tonren> surgy: Freudian slip?
[05:24] <Oly> Ahh. okay let me log onto that computer then* i'll come in as eisenbergs*
[05:24] <juano__> Tonren: check System settings --> advanced, services
[05:24] <surgy> so if the computer has 1 ide hdd and an ipod the ipod whould be "hdb" right?
[05:24] <surgy> tonren: what?
[05:24] <juano__> Oly: ok
[05:24] <Tonren> juano__: System Settings?!  This is KDE, not Gnome, dude!
[05:24] <Tonren> ... <       surgy > ide hard dicks are ...
[05:25] <juano__> Tonren: why dont u click the lower left menu and see what it sais on the 5th icon
[05:25] <intelikey> jarn observ: echo 'echo $SHLVL' > something.sh ;. something.sh ;bash something.sh ;sh something.sh ;chmod 755 something.sh ;./something.sh
[05:25] <surgy> tonren: ATA (not sata) but 80 pin ribbon cables
[05:25] <Tonren> juano__: AH!  There we go.  Thanks.
[05:25] <intelikey> jarn run that test string.  :)
[05:25] <juano__> Tonren: lol
[05:26] <Tonren> juano__: Hmm... lighttpd isn't there.
[05:26] <juano__> Tonren: plus, in gnome its System ---> Preferences       or System ---> administration
[05:26] <Tonren> Ah yeah
[05:26] <_AnitA_> Hi juano_ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54091 wicht one should I download?
[05:26] <jarn> intelikey: What is $SHLVL?
[05:27] <intelikey> shell level
[05:27] <intelikey> counts nesting
[05:27] <jarn> intelikey: Ah.
[05:27] <juano__> eisenbergs: pastebin your xorg.conf
[05:27] <intelikey> you can take that string apart at any and all  ;
[05:28] <slyfox> Please help, when  I try to run Kate via terminal:
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <jarn> intelikey: That's really interesting.
[05:28] <juano__> _AnitA_: download the one that sais amsn only
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <Jucato> !pastebin | slyfox
[05:28] <ubotu> slyfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <slyfox> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[05:28] <juano__> slyfox: we get it
[05:28] <slyfox> KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing...
[05:28] <slyfox> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[05:28] <slyfox> Xlib: No protocol specified
[05:28] <slyfox> drkonqi: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[05:28] <slyfox> Jucato: sorry about that.
[05:29] <slyfox> any idieas? I just installed a fresh copy of Kubuntu and also did a KDE 3.5.6 update
[05:29] <juano__> Jucato: hi there
[05:29] <Jucato> slyfox: how are you trying to run kate? what command are you using? and from where? (root or regular user?)
[05:29] <_AnitA_> Hi juano_ http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=54091 wicht one should I download?
[05:29] <Jucato> hi juano__
[05:30] <juano__> slyfox: try gksudo kate myfile
[05:30] <slyfox> Thsi one for example
[05:30] <slyfox> sudo kate /etc/auto.master
[05:30] <juano__> slyfox: use gksudo not sudo for GUI
[05:30] <torik> @find
[05:30] <Jucato> juano__: no
[05:30] <Jucato> slyfox: use kdesu kate
[05:30] <Tonren> Hey, can anyone tell me wtf is going on here?: http://inspiranity.com/pics/kcontrolwtf.jpg
[05:30] <intelikey> jarn the first    ". something.sh"  sourced the file  if there had been an exit command in there it would have closed your konsole.  the rest all ran in a 'sub-shell'  as denoted by the SHLVL variably.  even the one that was ./something.sh   which most don't notice that it subshells the command because it's executable.
[05:30] <Jucato> juano__: gksudo is for GNOME only
[05:31] <juano__> Jucato: works here, im in KDE
[05:31] <Jucato> juano__: you installed KDE over Ubuntu?
[05:31] <juano__> Jucato: yep kubuntu-desktop and KDE
[05:31] <jetta2dr> hi
[05:31] <slyfox> Jucato: kdesu works, but sudo kate used to work in my previosu kubutnu installation, now it does not
[05:31] <Jucato> juano__: if you have GNOME/Ubuntu installed, gksudo will also be installed
[05:31] <jarn> intelikey: Why would it have closed my konsole?
[05:31] <Jucato> !kdesu | slyfox
[05:31] <ubotu> slyfox: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:31] <slyfox> juano__:  does sudo kate work for you ?
[05:31] <juano__> Jucato: ahh i see..
[05:32] <intelikey> it's the same as typing streight into the konsole.    exit  means exit
[05:32] <juano__> Jucato: i though gksudo was for both, sorry my bad, i though g for gnome and k for kde
[05:32] <juano__> !gksudo
[05:32] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using "sudo <GUI-application>"
[05:32] <slyfox> Wow, this is new
[05:32] <intelikey> jarn or at least that tab of the konsole
[05:32] <jontec> anyone know of a way I could kind of VNC with command prompt?
[05:33] <slyfox> but still am curious to why it used to work in my previous installation and does not work now ?
[05:33] <Tonren> jontec: You seem to be referring to SSH.
[05:33] <Tonren> jontec: It's a way to log into a remote machine's command line.
[05:33] <Jucato> slyfox: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. the problem is if it messes up your system
[05:33] <jontec> Tonren: well... not really... I want to be able to control what's up on the screen, but not see the screen myself
[05:33] <jetta2dr> k uh i have a problem with my computer related to hardware... i put in a new power supply because the computer wouldnt turn on. when i turned it on it smelled like burnt wires.... do any of u guys think warenty would handle this?????????
[05:34] <juano__> Jucato: ahh kdesu it is then :-), thanks didnt know that
[05:34] <intelikey> jarn#  echo $SHLVL ;. something.sh
[05:34] <jarn> intelikey: Was that supposed to close the tab?
[05:35] <slyfox> juano__: so we should from now on use kdesu instead of sudo ?
[05:35] <juano__> Oly:
[05:35] <juano__> slyfox: to run GUI applications yes , use kdesu in KDE , and gksudo for gnome
[05:36] <jontec> Tonren: thing is... I don't have a away to set my computer at school up for a ip... but I can use LogMeIn to get into a windows computer... if I had a VNC server running on the target computer, then by accessing the windows computer a using the command-line vnc, I could get to it... I think.
[05:36] <slyfox> Jucato: Can you please see if something is wrong with my system: http://pastebin.com/867665
[05:36] <intelikey> jarn no.     exit   would.
[05:36] <juano__> Oly: you there? any luck?
[05:36] <Tonren> jontec: Hmm... I dunno, man.
[05:37] <jarn> intelikey: Ah.
[05:37] <jetta2dr> anyone???
[05:37] <intelikey> jarn echo 'exit' >> something.sh ;. something.sh     <<< that puts exit in the file and then sources it.   should close the tab.
[05:38] <MrWGW> brb
[05:38] <slyfox> jetta2dr: call them before you burn it
[05:38] <jarn> intelikey: Thanks, I think I understand sh now.
[05:38] <jetta2dr> hahahaha
[05:38] <intelikey> that's what i was saying about using ". filename"    it's sourced not shelled...
[05:39] <intelikey> ok i'll quit.
[05:39] <intelikey> :)
[05:40] <jontec> hey, Tonren... look at this package....
[05:40] <jontec> !x11vnc | Tonren
[05:40] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (edgy), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[05:40] <jontec> tonren: d'you think this is what I need?
[05:40] <eisenbergs> juano: kay what u want me to c and p over?
[05:41] <Tonren> jontec: I'm not sure.. I don't fully grok your situation.  You'll have to experiment!
[05:41] <slyfox> Jucato: my only consern is that I just installed fresh copy of Kubuntu and KDE 3.5.6  sudo kate used to work in my previous installation and now it does not. I just want to know if my system is massed up or everything is fine and KDE 3.5.6 prevents users from running sudo kate ?
[05:41] <intelikey> !ssh
[05:41] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:41] <juano__> eisenbergs: pastebin your xorg.conf
[05:41] <eisenbergs> pastebin.com?
[05:41] <juano__> !paste | eisenbergs:
[05:41] <ubotu> eisenbergs:: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:41] <intelikey> i need to burn a disk.  back later...     maybe.
[05:42] <eisenbergs> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2946/
[05:42] <juano__> eisenbergs: sec
[05:44] <jontec> okay I have a package that stalled in the middle of install... it was java... it gave me the screen to accept the license and adept wouldn't let me press any keys (this was about a week ago... and now I need to install a package) what do I do? I've tried the man pages... I need a quick fix
[05:45] <_AnitA_>  Juano_ this "how to" is working aswell  to install anothers programs like amule???thx
[05:45] <galfrid> hello
[05:45] <juano__> eisenbergs: did you install nvidia drivers?
[05:45] <juano__> eisenbergs: at all?
[05:46] <eisenbergs> idk. i thought they were defualt...
[05:46] <InuDuelist> Hey, anyone know how to set a permission for a folder and every file and folder inside of that folder?
[05:46] <eisenbergs> this is  a fresh copy*
[05:46] <juano__> !nvidia  |  eisenbergs:
[05:46] <ubotu> eisenbergs:: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:46] <juano__> eisenbergs: follow those instructions to install the nvidia driver
[05:46] <eisenbergs> alright
[05:47] <juano__> eisenbergs: once youve done that, lets see if you can boot properly
[05:48] <slyfox> eisenbergs: here is an easy way http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:48] <slyfox> eisenbergs: I jsut installed it
[05:48] <tonyy_on_kde> I just selected the folder for my music collection in Amarok.  How do I make a playlist containing the entire collection?
[05:49] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: select all and maybe right click and add to playlsit ?
[05:50] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: Ah, okay.  (I'm used to Rhythmbox, where you just click play...)  Thought there'd be a more direct route.
[05:50] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: I am just a noob :-)
[05:50] <slyfox> So I just reinstalled fresh Kubuntu, which codecs do I need to play all the media files ?
[05:51] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: :)  I'm only a KDE newbie.  I normally use Gnome (or no graphics at all...), but this weekend I'm playing around.
[05:51] <tonyy_on_kde> !restricted
[05:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:51] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: how do you like it? I found KDE to be well made for productivity, lots of usefull utilities
[05:52] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: will this work? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[05:52] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: It's a little bit heavy for me usually, and I have to muck with a lot of defaults to get the sort of behaviour I'm used to, but it's nice.
[05:53] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: That page is probably right, but I'd compare the command to the one on the wiki, since the wiki is usually more up to date.
[05:53] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: but this is a wiki, no ?
[05:54] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: I mean the official wiki, rather.
[05:55] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: which one is the official one? I though that this was the official one ?
[05:56] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[05:57] <slyfox> tonyy_on_kde: the one I gave you is the official Ubuntu 6.10 guide
[05:58] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: Unofficial rather.  See the top of the page :)
[06:03] <masterloki> Hi, I have a broadcom 4318 but no wireless networks are detected
[06:03] <masterloki> it seems my card is off
[06:03] <slyfox> Someone please help with kate http://pastebin.com/867673
[06:03] <masterloki>  but i cant turn it on
[06:03] <masterloki> My laptop is an Acer Aspire 5002
[06:03] <slyfox> masterloki: get knetwork manager and enable wireless
[06:04] <masterloki> when I try
[06:05] <Tonren> How do I get the US english w/ deadkeys keyboard layout?
[06:05] <masterloki> slyfox: when I try to enable it disiable
[06:05] <slyfox> masterloki: huh ?
[06:07] <slyfox> Help with Kate please http://pastebin.com/867673
[06:07] <lebifteksauvage> masterloki: i have the problem
[06:07] <masterloki> lebifteksauvage: ?_?
[06:08] <lebifteksauvage> with wireless
[06:08] <masterloki> lebifteksauvage: you cant turn it on neither?
[06:09] <masterloki> lebifteksauvage: I suspect is an acpi problem
[06:09] <lebifteksauvage> yeah , with the same broadcom
[06:09] <masterloki> lebifteksauvage: on my lap lspci say I have the driver
[06:09] <lebifteksauvage> same , i have some problem with it
[06:12] <Jucato> slyfox: that's not a Kate problem/error
[06:12] <Jucato> rawr!! I'm getting lagged...
[06:12] <slyfox> Jucato: :-( I was so excited. I got a fresh kubunut nad latest kde and now I cant use Kate :-( So what seems to be the problem ?
[06:14] <Jucato> sorry about that... slyfox still there?
[06:14] <Jucato> slyfox: those errors are not Kate's.
[06:14] <Jucato> slyfox: Kate still runs even if those errors show up
[06:14] <slyfox> yes
[06:14] <slyfox> slyfox: yes, I can start kate
[06:14] <slyfox> but I cannot get to teh sources file
[06:14] <slyfox> let me see if I can get to some otehr file
[06:15] <Jucato> slyfox: ok, just run "kdesu kate" and open sources.list from there
[06:15] <Jucato> slyfox: or try running "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" in Alt+F2 instead of Konsole
[06:15] <slyfox> Jucato: kdesu kate  gives the same msitake
[06:15] <Jucato> slyfox: ignore those errors
[06:17] <slyfox> Jucato: this worked. But I am very concerned about these errors
[06:17] <slyfox> Jucato: should I reinstall Kubuntu
[06:17] <slyfox> ?
[06:17] <slyfox> and not update to kde 3.5.6 ?
[06:18] <Jucato> slyfox: no. those errors are nothing. don't be concerned about them
[06:18] <Jucato> they're just saying that they can't detect any tablet. Xorg in Ubuntu is configured, by default, to support pointing devices that are handled by those wacom tablet entries in xorg.conf
[06:19] <slyfox> Jucato: but my convern is that I jad a working kubuntu few hours ago untill I did a fresh reintall and applied KDE 3.5.6  and not kate does not work :-(
[06:19] <Under-Ground> what is kubuntu?
[06:19] <Under-Ground> hi
[06:19] <Under-Ground> :)
[06:19] <Jucato> !kubuntu | Under-Ground
[06:19] <ubotu> Under-Ground: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:19] <slyfox> Jucato: "can't detect any tablet."  what is a tablet ?
[06:19] <Under-Ground> ty
[06:19] <Jucato> slyfox: how does kate not work? you said it still runs
[06:20] <eisenbergs> hey. can someone help me get adept to work?
[06:20] <slyfox> Jucato: It stopped working in terminal when I tried "sudo kate" I was then told to use "kdesu kate" instead and it worked but a few launches later neither one works..  ALT+F2 is the only one that still works
[06:20] <Jucato> slyfox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_tablet
[06:21] <Ertain> What are the hotkeys for changing from one virtual desktop to another?
[06:21] <Jucato> slyfox: because you are never supposed to use sudo with GUI apps. even if they worked before
[06:21] <tonyy_on_kde> Ertain: Not sure of defaults - I set custom ones.
[06:21] <Jucato> slyfox: those errors that you are so concerned about have nothing to do with Kate at all
[06:21] <slyfox> Jucato: ok, forget about that then, why does it just not work, was it me that did something ?
[06:21] <Jucato> Ertain: Ctrl+Tab by default, iirc
[06:22] <Jucato> slyfox: <slyfox> slyfox: yes, I can start kate <--- I thought you said it works? you can launch Kate as root with "kdesu kate".
[06:22] <eisenbergs> hey. when ever something requests a password its the same one u log in with right?
[06:22] <Jucato> ha he left...
[06:23] <Jucato> eisenbergs: yes (unless it's you're e-mail's password :P )
[06:23] <eisenbergs> righto
[06:23] <slyfox> Jucato: kdesu kate does not work for me when I write it in the treminal
[06:23] <eisenbergs> Uh. okay well Adept manager keeps saying its database is locked*
[06:23] <eisenbergs> Any idea how i can fix this 2 install a package*?
[06:23] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | eisenbergs
[06:23] <ubotu> eisenbergs: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:24] <Jucato> slyfox: side from those baddevice errors, what other errors do you get when running just "kdesu kate"?
[06:24] <Jucato> slyfox: or better yet, close Konsole, then open it up again, and try "kdesu kate" there again
[06:24] <eisenbergs> jucato: i just got usage sudo with a bunch of stuff and another line of more commands
[06:24] <Tonren> Can someone tell me wtf is going on here, please?: http://inspiranity.com/pics/kcontrolwtf.jpg
[06:25] <xsacha> woah
[06:25] <Jucato> eisenbergs: did you enter the commands properly?
[06:25] <eisenbergs> *tries again*
[06:25] <xsacha> Tonren: click admin mode?
[06:25] <slyfox> Jucato: same error as in pastebin, but it worked now !
[06:26] <Jucato> slyfox: ok, learn to ignore those errors. there are harmless but annoying
[06:26] <Tonren> xsacha: Yes - you can tell from the red outline
[06:26] <slyfox> Jucato: thank you, I have next problem
[06:27] <slyfox> Jucato: I am following this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[06:27] <xsacha> Tonren: try kdesu kcontrol  ?
[06:27] <Jucato> slyfox: those are for GNOME
[06:27] <slyfox> Jucato:
[06:27] <slyfox> Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:27] <slyfox> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:27] <slyfox> is only available from another source
[06:27] <slyfox> E: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[06:27] <slyfox> slyfox@laptopishe:~$
[06:27] <Tonren> !paste | slyfox
[06:27] <Jucato> !pastebin | slyfox
[06:27] <ubotu> slyfox: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:28] <slyfox> crap, again I am flooding :-)
[06:28] <Tonren> Wow... was ubotu smart enough to know not to send the same paste twice?
[06:28] <Jucato> slyfox: ignore those instructions. those are for GNOME only
[06:28] <Tonren> I'm pretty impressed by that.
[06:28] <slyfox> Jucato: where do I find info for kubuntu for codecs then ?
[06:28] <Jucato> well, actually, for both GNOME and KDE... but more than you need
[06:28] <Jucato> !codecs | slyfox
[06:28] <ubotu> slyfox: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <slyfox> Jucato: but they are not isntalling because of this one codec
[06:28] <Tonren> xsacha: That does absolutely nothing, surprisingly.
[06:29] <Jucato> slyfox: for mp3's, you need "libxine-extracodecs" but you need to have multiverse enabled
[06:29] <xsacha> hmm, not sure, .. it's working here
[06:29] <Jucato> !multiverse | slyfox
[06:29] <ubotu> slyfox: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:29] <Tonren> xsacha: I had to sudo it... generated some vterm errors, but...
[06:29] <xsacha> kdesu isnt working for some reason?
[06:29] <juano__> eisenbergs: did you install the drivers?
[06:29] <slyfox> what is the command to apt-get UNinstall something ?
[06:29] <xsacha> slyfox: yep that's it
[06:29] <Jucato> slyfox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 for MP3's, scroll down a bit for the Kubuntu instructions
[06:29] <Jucato> xsacha: ??
[06:30] <Jucato> slyfox: sudo apt-get remove <something>
[06:30] <tonyy_on_kde> slyfox: apt-get remove
[06:30] <xsacha> slyfox: apt-get remove
[06:30] <Tonren> xsacha: Nope, isn't working
[06:31] <chevy69chevelle> hey ppls, i got a question for you
[06:31] <xsacha> Tonren: yeah, that's it -- just kdesu isnt working for some reason -- tried kdesu on anything else?
[06:31] <meteor-1500> i'm running kubuntu amd64, anyone know if there is a flash player plugin for amd64 that'll work?
[06:31] <intelikey> chevy69chevelle the answer is 27
[06:31] <slyfox> waht does "sudo cp -p "  what does -p mean ?
[06:31] <chevy69chevelle> why is it when i try to launch an mp3 into amarok using katapult it says "no suitable input plugin"
[06:31] <intelikey> :)
[06:32] <xsacha> slyfox:   -p same as --preserve=mode,ownership,timestamps
[06:32] <chevy69chevelle> intelikey: OH shoot, i was trying 16
[06:32] <Tonren> xsacha: Doesn't seem to work on anything
[06:32] <intelikey> !mp3 | chevy69chevelle
[06:32] <ubotu> chevy69chevelle: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:32] <xsacha> Tonren: not good :( maybe reinstall it
[06:33] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: try playing an MP3 directly in Amarok. if you're on Kubuntu Edgy, you'll be asked if you want to install the MP3 codecs
[06:33] <Tonren> xsacha: Reinstall kdesu?  There's no such package..
[06:33] <Tonren> Can anyone offer an opinion on why the font is garbled in this window?  http://inspiranity.com/pics/kcontrolwtf.jpg
[06:34] <intelikey> Jucato hmmm so edgy is just || that close to a complete departure from gnu ?
[06:34] <Jucato> intelikey: why?
[06:34] <slyfox> In repositories I have enabled Multiverse and I stil lget this erro
[06:34] <slyfox> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse
[06:34] <chevy69chevelle> jucato: I am using dapper, and it does play when i try directly from amarok
[06:34] <slyfox> Maybe I need to update first? - apt-get udpate ?
[06:34] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: ah, you have to  manually install libxine-extracodecs then
[06:35] <mikejanssen> meh
[06:35] <intelikey> Jucato only thing left to do is just install the codecs on the default installation....
[06:35] <mikejanssen> 69 chevelle
[06:35] <mikejanssen> booooo
[06:35] <Jucato> slyfox: sudo apt-get update
[06:35] <mikejanssen> go 67
[06:35] <mikejanssen> = )
[06:35] <xsacha> Tonren: kdelibs5 and/or kdebase-bin
[06:35] <sparr> hooray for kubuntu's default kernel recognizing my IDE raid controller!  still missing my NIC and sound, but ill get those working once i can upgrade
[06:35] <slyfox> Jucato: I still get this Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiver
[06:35] <Jucato> intelikey: it's still not installed by default. the script only automates the enabling of the multiverse repository
[06:35] <Tonren> xsacha: That sounds risky to reinstall
[06:35] <chevy69chevelle> mikejanssen: if i had a 67 i would go 67, i'm sure if you had a 69 you would go 69 :P
[06:35] <Jucato> slyfox: why do you insist on installing that, when you won't need/use it?
[06:36] <mikejanssen> meh, 69 i dont like the style of too much
[06:36] <mikejanssen> 67 = i dream of
[06:36] <Jucato> slyfox: I already told you that "libxine-extracodecs" is the only thing you need to play MP3's on Kubuntu. GStreamer is for Ubuntu/GNOME
[06:36] <slyfox> Jucato: I do not, I just follow the guide from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats   and it has this huge line with all the codecs to be pasted into terminal and that is what I get whenI paste it n
 slyfox: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 for MP3's, scroll down a bit for the Kubuntu instructions
[06:36] <sparr> slyfox: you havent added 'multiverse' to your sources
[06:37] <jarn> How do I make a command run from the terminal quiet, not put any text into the terminal and let me keep using the terminal?
[06:37] <sparr> slyfox: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put " multiverse" after "universe" on the uncommented lines
[06:37] <Jucato> slyfox: also, I think you didn't add multiverse, but enabled the wrong multiverse
[06:37] <chevy69chevelle> I like the 69's actually, i like how the ass end sticks up a bit higher(on mine newayz) and the tail lights are a little squarer, i don't like the later years so much when they started going to dual headlights rather then quad though
[06:37] <intelikey> howto make kde "NOT" notice when i mount a cd from a konsole ?
[06:37] <slyfox> let me see
[06:37] <sparr> tricky to use the ubuntu instructions for kubuntu there...  those gnome guys have a package manager manager that can modify their sources for them
[06:37] <Eruantalon> jarn: Many programs hava quit option if you use with & after tyhe command it will be in the background
[06:37] <mikejanssen> my friend has a 70
[06:37] <jarn> Eruantalon: Thanks.
[06:37] <mikejanssen> well he's on his 2nd 70
[06:38] <mikejanssen> and my friends dad has a bright red 67 SS
[06:38] <mikejanssen> i <3 that car...
[06:38] <jarn> Eruantalon: That's exactly what I was looking for, I remembered it was something like that but couldn't remember exactly.
[06:38] <tonyy_on_kde> Can you change the order of groups in the vertical arrangement in Kopete?
[06:38] <Eruantalon> But i would just fireup another tab en konsol and have the program run there
[06:39] <sparr> jarn: be careful with &, it wont stop stderr from coming to the terminal.  and the program will end if you log out.  'nohup' is a command you may want to investigate
[06:39] <slyfox> sparr: This is what I have http://pastebin.com/867676
[06:39] <slyfox> Jucato:  This is what I have http://pastebin.com/867676
[06:39] <tonyy_on_kde> How can I make Konversation beep / make some default sound when my nick is said?  I only saw an option to choose a custom sound.
[06:39] <Jucato> tonyy_on_kde: Settings -> Configure Notifications
[06:40] <intelikey> jucato howto make kde "NOT" notice when i mount a cd from a konsole ?
[06:40] <Jucato> slyfox: in lines 20 and 21, and the word "multiverse" after "universe"
[06:40] <intelikey> err console
[06:40] <sparr> damn you for making me launch a web browser off the live cd  :)
[06:40] <tonyy_on_kde> Jucato: Okay, I clicked turn on all sounds.  Should that do it?
[06:40] <Eruantalon> tonyy_on_kde:
[06:40] <tonyy_on_kde> nope
[06:40] <Eruantalon> did it work?
[06:40] <tonyy_on_kde> dang
[06:40] <Jucato> intelikey: try KControl -> Peripherals -> Storage Media
[06:40] <Jucato> tonyy_on_kde: no
[06:40] <juano__> Oly: eisenbergs how are you managing with NVIDIA?
[06:40] <intelikey> k
[06:41] <intelikey> didn't think of Peripherals
[06:41] <Jucato> tonyy_on_kde: just the "someone wrote your nick in a message"
[06:41] <slyfox> Jucato: it should be like this ?
[06:41] <chevy69chevelle> ya 67 SS was my dream car, then i came across a smoken deal on a 69 so the tide turned lol, i'm actually suprised to see another linux user into old classics, most ppl i meet drive POS honda's, or in my room mate's case, a neon on steroeds(SRT-4)
[06:41] <slyfox> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[06:41] <slyfox> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse
[06:41] <Jucato> intelikey: KControl groupings are not the best :)
[06:41] <Jucato> slyfox: yes
[06:41] <intelikey> :)
[06:41] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:42] <Jucato> intelikey: it was one of the goals of system settings. get a KDE usability expert and rearrange them in a more logical order/grouping
[06:42] <mikejanssen> i wish i had cashflow, i'd totally own a few oldies
[06:42] <tonyy_on_kde> Jucato: It only gives me a line to browse for a sound file.   :P
[06:43] <intelikey> Jucato it's just that i don't normally consider inbox things as Peripheral,  althought the hd is only connected via a cable to the mother board.
[06:44] <chevy69chevelle> 69 charger.. go gereral lee(only reason i like the car) lol
[06:44] <tonyy_on_kde> Jucato: Well, I like that the feature's there yes - but usually things have "Play a sound" and "choose a custom one"
[06:44] <Jucato> intelikey: define a peripheral :)
[06:44] <Jucato> intelikey: a video card is a peripheral too
[06:44] <mikejanssen> lol
[06:44] <intelikey> exactly
[06:44] <mikejanssen> i wouldnt mind an old mustang either
[06:44] <chevy69chevelle> jucato: I did install them already, first thing i did :P
[06:45] <chevy69chevelle> gt250 or a gt500
[06:45] <chevy69chevelle> buddy of mine has a 71 mach1
[06:45] <intelikey> well the head always was.  the card....  heh if it's onboard vidio would it still be Peripheral ?
[06:45] <Jucato> tonyy_on_kde: what do you mean? I can see those options in COnfigure Notifications too
[06:45] <mikejanssen> heh
[06:45] <mikejanssen> 500
[06:45] <Jucato> intelikey: yes
[06:46] <tonyy_on_kde> Jucato: as in if I'm in a hurry I should be able to just enable some sound theme, but if I'm into customization, I can make them all what I want.
[06:46] <intelikey> ok i'll drop back to my default definition on that.   a Peripheral is anything outside the box.
[06:46] <intelikey> that's my def. ^  :)
[06:46] <slyfox> Jucato: ok, Amarok is automatically getting the needed codecs, what about video ?
[06:47] <Jucato> intelikey: it's not a very accurate definition...
[06:47] <intelikey> !worksforme
[06:47] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:48] <Jucato> slyfox: libxine-extracodces also handles AVI's and other videos. you need w32codecs for Windows Media
[06:48] <Jucato> tonyy_on_kde: not really sure. it's up to the app's developers if they want to have a sound notification default theme for their app. main KDE does not control those
[06:48] <intelikey> what would be accurate ?    'everything outside the cpu?'
[06:48] <Jucato> specially Konversation, which is not part of the main KDE release
[06:49] <Jucato> intelikey: that's a bit more accurate. although I think RAM isn't a peripheral
[06:49] <slyfox> Jucato: which database type do you use ?
[06:49] <intelikey> heh
[06:49] <Jucato> anything outside the CPU/ALU and Main Memory would probably be a more accurate definition
[06:49] <Jucato> slyfox: for Amarok? the default SQLite
[06:50] <slyfox> Jucato: I have about 200 gigs of music. Is SQLite ok ?
[06:50] <tonyy_on_kde> Jucato: Ah, gotcha.  Oh well, I found one that works for now.
[06:50] <Jucato> slyfox: 200GB?!?!?!
[06:50] <akrus> SQLite is okay
[06:50] <Jucato> that I'm not sure. and my suggestion is that you add them to your collection in groups, not in one whole process
[06:50] <slyfox> akrus: sure? I heard that for big ones you need mysql
[06:51] <akrus> slyfox: yeah, but it will work :)
[06:51] <slyfox> Jucato: yeah, groups is what I do
[06:51] <akrus> SQLite is just a text file :)
[06:51] <akrus> hehe
[06:51] <akrus> just with tabs
[06:51] <chevy69chevelle> I still can't figure out why it won't play my mp3's in amarok when i try launching via katapult but it will if i play them right through ammaroc. says invalid input plugin: this often means the url protocol is not supported
[06:51] <intelikey> tonyy_on_kde long time no C++  :)
[06:51] <Tido> whenever I start up beryl-manager on my laptop, it runs ok but I always get this error in the console: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 157
[06:52] <slyfox> akrus: MYsql is complex for me, I am coming from windows and back there I just had one database file for my entire music and that was good. Here when I started looking at MYsql, I was like wow... thsi is complex...
[06:52] <akrus> :)
[06:52] <akrus> well
[06:52] <akrus> if you already have MySQL installed
[06:52] <surgy> !java
[06:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:52] <slyfox> akrus: one file is also easy to backup and I undertand how
[06:52] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: are you sure you installed libxine-extracodecs?
[06:52] <akrus> then use MySQL, it would be faster
[06:52] <akrus> SQLite is just a single file
[06:52] <akrus> not like MySQL db structure
[06:52] <chevy69chevelle> jucato: I am 100% sure
[06:53] <akrus> Tido: nVidia/ATI?
[06:53] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: ah dapper right?
[06:53] <slyfox> is MySQL easy to backup, is it just one file also? Or many many folders and files ?
[06:53] <chevy69chevelle> jucato: correct
[06:53] <intelikey> do you have to run some script on that ^
[06:53] <Tido> akrus: integrated Intel
[06:53] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: Katapult bug :)
[06:53] <akrus> Tido: oh then no idea o_O
[06:53] <Tido> kk
[06:53] <akrus> slyfox: MySQL is a folder :)
[06:53] <chevy69chevelle> jucato: It use to work for me when i was running it before, is it a bug with an update they did?
[06:53] <intelikey> !libxine-extracodecs
[06:53] <akrus> slyfox: in /var/lib/mysql/
[06:53] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[06:53] <Jucato> chevy69chevelle: iirc, yes
[06:53] <intelikey> !libxine-extracodecs dapper
[06:54] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[06:54] <akrus> slyfox: MySQL is better for big databases, SQLite for little (up 10000~50000 records)
[06:54] <slyfox> akrus: but first I need to get the MySQL server and then run it ?
[06:54] <elyon225> So, I'm considering (eek!) reinstalling Windows for gaming... now, I know that when I do, I won't be able to boot into Linux.  So using the live CD, what must I do to get GRUB back where it belongs?
[06:54] <akrus> slyfox: it's simple :)
[06:54] <akrus> slyfox: just apt-get install mysql-server
[06:55] <chevy69chevelle> lol nutz. what's the main differance between edgy and dapper?
[06:55] <akrus> elyon225: in konsole: sudo update-grub
[06:55] <elyon225> akrus: That's it?
[06:55] <slyfox> akrus: wow 32 mg, so big
[06:55] <akrus> elyon225: likely :)
[06:55] <akrus> slyfox: then use SQLite :P
[06:55] <akrus> hehe^^
[06:56] <akrus> Jucato: what messenger are you using under Linux?
[06:56] <Jucato> akrus: Kopete
[06:56] <slyfox> akrus: that is ok, I can spare space for my music collection
[06:56] <akrus> T_T
[06:56] <Linux_Galore> heres a hard one, how to I regress a package because its breaking my install, ie liglu1-mesa
[06:56] <akrus> ICQ File Transports not supported
[06:56] <akrus> & some problems with Unicode...
[06:56] <intelikey> akrus update-grub won't write the mbr will it ?
[06:56] <akrus> slyfox: :)
[06:56] <akrus> intelikey: it will
[06:56] <akrus> hm
[06:56] <slyfox> Do you guys use Kontakt to stay organized ?
[06:56] <akrus> or no?
[06:56] <intelikey> i think no
[06:56] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: sudo apt-get install package=exact_version
[06:56] <slyfox> Kontact
[06:57] <akrus> I don't remember, that's the way I fixed my bootloader o_O
[06:57] <akrus> sudo grub-install?
[06:57] <Jucato> slyfox: I use Kontact... but I don't think I'm organized just by using it...
[06:57] <akrus> install-grub
[06:57] <akrus> I'm always confused with the way they named the executables :)
[06:57] <intelikey> grub-install will
[06:57] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yeah, my problem is for some reason adept has installed a weird version of liblgu1-mesa
[06:57] <akrus> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[06:57] <akrus> or something like~
[06:58] <slyfox> Jucato: yeah :-) I am going on a taks of unsubscribing from many RSS feeds, getting read ot gmail manager plugin for firefox and other bullcrap :-)
[06:58] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: when?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: its actually a cvs version so its broken allot of stuff
[06:58] <surgy> whats the "deb-src" for the multiverse repo?
[06:58] <slyfox> Jucato: I found that TiddlyWiki is the best thing to use.
[06:58] <akrus> surgy: sources?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: a while back, Ive back tracked it to the kubuntu repo
[06:58] <akrus> surgy: partial sources? :)
[06:58] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hm...
[06:58] <slyfox> akrus: I am still getting that MySQL server, please also tell me how to make it work with Amarok once I get it
[06:58] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: kubuntu.org repo?
[06:58] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: its not on the repo anymore but its left me with a broken dep problem
[06:59] <surgy> akrus: for some reason my install doesnt have the multiverse repos in sources.list i need the repo
[06:59] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ah....
[06:59] <akrus> slyfox: actually I never used it
[06:59] <Jucato> surgy: you just add "multiverse" to the end of the line that goes like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" (presuming you are on edgy)
[06:59] <elyon225> I can't install sun-java5-jre... for some reason it says it's referred to by another package but is unavailable.
[07:00] <akrus> slyfox: mysql -uroot
[07:00] <Jucato> elyon225: do you have "multiverse" enabled?
[07:00] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: its newer than whats on the repo, looks like they added the package then realised its not such a bright idea
[07:00] <akrus> slyfox: then CREATE DATABASE `amarok`;
[07:00] <elyon225> Jucato: yep
[07:00] <Jucato> the *correct* multiverse?
[07:00] <akrus> slyfox: should work :)
[07:00] <intelikey> akrus well i just ran update-grub to make sure.  it made a /boot/grub/menu.lst   but i know it didn't do anything to the mbr   cause grub won't work on this box.   so in short  no it doesn't write the mbr.
[07:00] <elyon225> Jucato: Well, I have whichever one was in the list when I installed Kubuntu
[07:00] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: I'm not sure if that would be from a kubuntu.org repository, as they don't package Xorg related stuff
[07:00] <Jucato> elyon225: then that one isn't enough
[07:00] <akrus> intelikey: okay :)
[07:00] <surgy> thank you
[07:00] <Jucato> elyon225: you have to add "multiverse" to the end of the line that goes like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" (presuming you are on edgy)
[07:00] <makuseru> !ipod
[07:00] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:01] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: the package history points at ubuntu
[07:01] <akrus> Feisty!
[07:01] <akrus> o_O
[07:01] <akrus> oh btw have someone already switched to KDE 3.5.6?
[07:01] <akrus> something noticeable? :)
[07:01] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: what's the exact version number?
[07:02] <Jucato> akrus: the password box, most notably
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: 6.5.1+cvs20060824
[07:02] <akrus> Jucato: it was here since feisty alpha two
[07:02] <Jucato> akrus: you were asking about 3.5.6 :)
[07:02] <akrus> hehe :)
[07:02] <soulrider> i ahve kde 3.5.6
[07:02] <meteor-1500> every time i'm trying to compile something i'm getting configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[07:02] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hm...
[07:02] <meteor-1500> this is a fresh 6.10 load, any ideas?
[07:02] <soulrider> i havnt noticed anything
[07:02] <akrus> I wish Kopete fixed ICQ bugs :x
[07:02] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: all my other gl packages are about a week earlier and not cvs
[07:03] <akrus> meteor-1500: sudo apt-get install gcc
[07:03] <intelikey> meteor-1500 you have installed build-essential ?
[07:03] <akrus> oh c++
[07:03] <akrus> intelikey: isn't it installed by default?
[07:03] <meteor-1500> akrus: that's there
[07:03] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hm...
[07:03] <intelikey> no
[07:03] <Jucato> akrus: no
[07:03] <meteor-1500> intelikey: ah thanks
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: if i try and revert the machine it wants to remove xorg and all desktop apps
[07:04] <intelikey> !b-e
[07:04] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:04] <elyon225> Jucato: Yep... was missing that. Thank you.
[07:04] <akrus> !repositories
[07:04] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections.  I don't suppose it is possible to BOOT from an ISO, is it?
[07:04] <akrus> O_O
[07:04] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: becuase it most probably upgraded everything to the version in that repository
[07:04] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: are you on feisty, by any chance?
[07:04] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: yep
[07:04] <Jucato> er...
[07:04] <intelikey> elyon225 yes it is.  it's just not so easy.
[07:05] <Jucato> !info libglu1-mesa feisty
[07:05] <ubotu> libglu1-mesa: The OpenGL utility library (GLU). In component main, is extra.  I have a DVD iso, but no DVD burner :)
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> akrus: one package installed from the repo thats broken my deps tree disablinh my ability to use and graphics dev tools
[07:06] <Linux_Galore> any*
[07:06] <intelikey> elyon225 :)      i synphonize
[07:07] <akrus> huh
[07:07] <Jucato> intelikey: synphowhat?
[07:07] <elyon225> lol
[07:07] <elyon225> Kinda like sympathize, I guess.
[07:07] <intelikey> never say you can't get any synphony out of intelikey
[07:07] <akrus> is there any software in repository that allows to open CorelDraw files?
[07:07] <intelikey> :)
[07:07] <Linux_Galore> looks like Im going to have to throw this install in the bin
[07:08] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[07:08] <Jucato> intelikey: did you mean sympathy?
[07:08] <intelikey> Jucato my daughter was in a snit one day and blurted that one out.  (age 10 at the time)   "you can't get any synphony around here"
[07:08] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: hold your horses partner... we'll see...
[07:08] <elyon225> Hmm... my adept apparently crashed and I can't kill it.  What is the console command to kill a process?
[07:08] <Jucato> intelikey: aaaah
[07:08] <elyon225> I have the PID
[07:08] <intelikey> :)
[07:08] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | elyon225
[07:09] <ubotu> elyon225: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:09] <elyon225> perfect... thanks
[07:09] <intelikey> Jucato yes she meant "sympathy"
[07:09] <slyfox> Anyone here uses Digikam?
[07:10] <slyfox> This does not exist ! - how do I make it work -->> The Scan Items Dialog http://docs.kde.org/development/en/extragear-graphics/digikam/using-kapp-firstrun.html
[07:10] <intelikey> that was yestergo
[07:11] <Jucato> slyfox: when you run it for the very first time, it should be there. unless you already created and album file
[07:11] <slyfox> So there is no way to add fodlers to digicam so that it will index them ?
[07:11] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: what I really need to do is remove the libglu1-mesa package and "replace it" with the correct version
[07:11] <soulrider> hey slyfox did you upgrade KDE ?
[07:12] <slyfox> soulrider: Yes, fresh kubunut install and latest KDE
[07:12] <soulrider> cool!
[07:12] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: can't you do the command I gave?
[07:13] <slyfox> soulrider: I cant seem to find something that will work like Picasa in KDE, digikam does not have a fonction of adding a folder
[07:13] <soulrider> slyfox: why not use picasa? :P i think theres a google version
[07:13] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: what command
[07:13] <soulrider> i cant really give you an alternative since i dont use that type of programs
[07:13] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install package=exact_version
[07:13] <slyfox> soulrider: yeah, but it runs under wine and the fonts are total crap under wine
[07:14] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: let me try
[07:14] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: in this case it would be "sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa=6.5.1~20060817-0ubuntu3"
[07:15] <yuriy> slyfox: there are a couple gnome programs you could try if digikam and picasa don't fit your needs
[07:15] <intelikey> = ?     hmmm     i didnt know tha = was a meta char in apt...
[07:15] <yuriy> slyfox: i think one is f-spot and i don't remember the other one, i havent' tried them
[07:15] <soulrider> slyfox: im sure theres a linux version
[07:15] <yuriy> there is a linux version but afaik it works by integrating a version of wine, which might be what he meant
[07:15] <makuseru> how do i get an ipod to mount in linux?
[07:16] <stdin> !ipod
[07:16] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:16] <slyfox> How about Gwenview ?
[07:16] <yuriy> Gwenview is just a viewer, not an organizer
[07:16] <Linux_Galore> Jucato: bingo that fixed it, yay I can do some dev work
[07:16] <makuseru> stdin: all that page says is to intall gtkpod-aac
[07:16] <yuriy> doesn't amarok handle ipods?