[10:19] <steve60> bosco, im just installing it now
[10:19] <ideafix> how do i install WOW in wine ?
[10:19] <bosco> steve60,  allright there are themes there if you need them as well
[10:19] <steve60> yeah im installing them aswell
[10:19] <foxpaul> is it possible to see if processes are using a port?
[10:19] <foxpaul> listening on a port, even
[10:20] <steve60> basically if it said enlightenment next to it i marked it for install
[10:20] <bosco> yah how do you install wow in wine i want to know as well
[10:20] <steve60> whats wow??
[10:20] <AM3X> !kernel source
[10:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, AM3X
[10:20] <AM3X> waaaaaaaah
[10:20] <g-thunder> baby
[10:21] <krzkrzkrz> ok ill connect the laptop to the internet once the distro is installed
[10:21] <Chrisx1> hey everytime i run a php script with mysql i get a mysql error i try to remove php + mysql i cant because i cant remove phpmyadmin any ideas??
[10:21] <AM3X> i was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source
[10:21] <mustard5> I see this thread on WOW and wine in the forums  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120615&highlight=wow+wine
[10:21] <AM3X> i was trying to install driver for my modem it says no kernel source found
[10:21] <ideafix> great
[10:21] <ideafix> thx
[10:21] <AM3X> !kernel
[10:22] <AM3X> how do i install kernel source?
[10:22] <Chrisx1> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[10:22] <Chrisx1>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[10:22] <Chrisx1> any ideas?
[10:22] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, k..as I said..it might auto detect your connection and set it all up for you if you have it connected at install though...its up to you :)
[10:22] <steve60> bosco, im gonna go mooch around and see what i can get for this seeya laterz an thx again
[10:22] <mustard5> AM3X, you would install it through synaptic
[10:23] <matyas_za> Hi
[10:23] <bosco> steve60,  that is the only way to is to mooch and thank you
[10:23] <krzkrzkrz> mustard5 would i be able to configure after installation though?
[10:23] <AM3X> mustard5 do you have some readme on that?
[10:23] <steve60> bosco, np seeya
[10:23] <krzkrzkrz> mustard5 would it be much more difficult?
[10:23] <matyas_za> I wanna change my update link what is the archive link again?
[10:23] <ideafix> e already installed wine from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.

[10:23] <ideafix> nstalled wine from the repositories, you will want to do a "complete removal" of it before continuing.

[10:23] <ideafix> sorry
[10:23] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, sure..but if you've never used linux before..it might mean a bit of learning first :)
[10:24] <ideafix> i have to unistall wine 1st ?
[10:24] <mustard5> krzkrzkrz, if you have another system to get online with I suppose its not a big issue
[10:24] <OmegaAlpha> steve60,  when you get enlightenment running can you tell me if your menus work when you right click
[10:24] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:24] <AM3X> mustard5 do you have some readme on that?
[10:24] <AM3X> documentation?
[10:25] <munti78> i'm looking for an ftp client, anyone now of a good one?
[10:25] <mustard5> AM3X, I would search in synaptic for a package called linux-source and is for your current kernel
[10:25] <g-thunder> wie installiere ich von einer cd aus den treiber?
[10:25] <kryptoz> when i try to mount a nfs share on another computer it gives me error "RPC Error: 15 ( Program not registered )"
[10:25] <mustard5> AM3X, your can find your current kernel version with the uname -r command
[10:25] <munti78> anyone?
[10:25] <AM3X> ic thanks mustard5
[10:26] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:26] <mustard5> AM3X, for example I have this package in synaptic.... linux-source-2.6.12
[10:26] <ideafix> mustard5 isntalling wine for use with wow will make other windows programs not to work as expected ?
[10:26] <mustard5> AM3X, you might have a different kernel though...so check your kernel version first
[10:26] <mustard5> ideafix, I have no idea
[10:27] <AM3X> ok thanks again mustard5
[10:27] <mustard5> ideafix, I've never tried it myself..just found that thread :)
[10:27] <ideafix> humm
[10:28] <mustard5> !de
[10:28] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:28] <ideafix> theres an arabe hat there sould i be warry ?
[10:28] <mustard5> ideafix, that would be a turkish fez :)
[10:28] <AM3X> i already know my kernel ver is 2.5.12
[10:28] <ideafix> is isntalling wine to use with wow some kind of terrorrist hack ?
[10:28] <AM3X> i mean i already know my kernel ver is 2.6.12
[10:29] <kerrian> how do |I find out if I'm running a 386 kerne; or 686 kernel?
[10:29] <mustard5> AM3X, can then you should install that package above then...
[10:29] <OmegaAlpha> whats this wow you are talking about
[10:29] <AM3X> mustard5 thanks
[10:29] <ideafix> world of warcraft
[10:29] <mustard5> kerrian, type uname -r in terminal
[10:29] <ideafix> what else !?
[10:30] <OmegaAlpha> oh yeah remember seeing that on wines site
[10:30] <mikelo> hey guys i gotta a problem with my video card
[10:30] <OmegaAlpha> can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nividia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:31] <mikelo> all games are running slower
[10:31] <OmegaAlpha> mikelo, so do i
[10:31] <mikelo> damn
[10:31] <kerrian> be interesting to see what linux can really do
[10:31] <ideafix> why ?
[10:31] <kerrian> never managed to get my video cards working before
[10:31] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, your spelling nvidia wrong btw...I don't have a nvidia folder either
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5, haha didnt see that
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha>  can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:32] <OmegaAlpha> there we go
[10:32] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, in fact /user/x11R6/lib/ returns no such file or directory
[10:32] <Mr_Milenko> back on broadband oh yeah
[10:32] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[10:33] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, that was /usr/ btw..hehe..my turn for a typo :)
[10:33] <ideafix> try uname -i
[10:33] <ideafix> kerrian:  try uname -i
[10:33] <kerrian> brb
[10:34] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5,  i have an nvidia file there.. hmmm i wonder if thats why i keep getting the GLX extension error
[10:34] <mustard5> ideafix, there is no -i option for uname that I can see
[10:34] <OmegaAlpha> if i solve this problem.. ill be a hero in the linux community
[10:34] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, :)
[10:34] <ideafix> yes there is
[10:34] <Chrisx1> anyone around like to help me?
[10:34] <ideafix> uname -i
[10:34] <ideafix> i386
[10:35] <OmegaAlpha> maybe they'll name a driver after me ;)~
[10:35] <mikelo> no -i option found
[10:35] <mustard5> mustard@slave:~$ uname -i
[10:35] <mustard5> Try `uname --help' for more information.
[10:35] <ideafix> mustard5: there must be something broken with your distro
[10:35] <Chrisx1> Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:35] <Mr_Milenko> mustard!
[10:35] <Mr_Milenko> Broadband :D
[10:35] <mustard5> hey Mr_Milenko
[10:35] <bosco> LOL
[10:36] <bosco> shine
[10:36] <ideafix> mustard5:  uname --version
[10:36] <ideafix> whats does it say ?
[10:36] <OmegaAlpha>  can sum1 check their /usr/x11R6/lib/nvidia for 2 archive files -  libGLcore.a.xlibmesa & libglx.a.xlibmesa?
[10:36] <mustard5> ideafix, uname -r returns the kernel version
[10:37] <Kerrian> um, hate to be a bother, but I don't think it worked
[10:37] <Chrisx1> Errors were encountered while processing:  phpmyadmin E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:37] <Chrisx1> Can Any1 Help With that ^^
[10:37] <Kerrian> I followed the directionx exactly
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> thats nice Chrisx1
[10:37] <mustard5> ideafix, uname (coreutils) 5.2.1
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> repeat it again
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[10:37] <Mr_Milenko> i dont think we saw it the last two times you pasted it
[10:37] <Chrisx1> oh lolz
[10:37] <ideafix> uname --version
[10:37] <ideafix> uname (GNU coreutils) 5.3.0
[10:37] <ideafix> Written by David MacKenzie.
[10:37] <mustard5> Kerrian, did you sudo nvidia-config enable?
[10:37] <Chrisx1> can somebody help plz?
[10:37] <OmegaAlpha> mustard5, do you ever get an error when running apps something like lib: GLX extension missing for display.
[10:37] <Kerrian> and after doing the ctrl alt backspace, it brought me to a basic text interface
[10:37] <ideafix> mabey you need to upgrade coreutils
[10:38] <Kerrian> ah ha
[10:38] <dooglus> when I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?
[10:38] <Kerrian> I did the sudo nvidia-glx-confix
[10:38] <ideafix> i ear there was some bug with does
[10:38] <Kerrian> no wonder it didn;t work
[10:38] <ideafix> those
[10:38] <Kerrian> question: if I ran the proper command from this text interface its given me, would it still work?
[10:39] <dooglus> kameron: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there
[10:39] <Tamoio_br> helloa ll
[10:39] <Tamoio_br> -*hello all
[10:39] <dooglus> Kerrian: try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" from there
[10:39] <mustard5> Kerrian, try what dooglus said above
[10:39] <Kerrian> k
[10:39] <fred__> anyone?
[10:39] <Kerrian> this flavour of linux have autocomplete?
[10:39] <mustard5> Kerrian, yep
[10:40] <OmegaAlpha> anyone else in here get the GLX extension error
[10:40] <Kerrian> excellent
[10:40] <Kerrian> one of my all time favourite utilities
[10:40] <dooglus> Kerrian: Linux is a kernel, so no.  Some of the applications it runs have autocomplete.
[10:40] <Kerrian> next to apt-Get on Deb
[10:40] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: using ATI ?
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, yes i am
[10:41] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, I don't recall any errors like that
[10:41] <Kerrian> ok, so now that I'm back in, run the proper command?
[10:41] <mustard5> OmegaAlpha, nothing that is a showstopper anyway
[10:41] <Kerrian> or go back through the entire process?
[10:41] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: good luck :)
[10:41] <dooglus> Kerrian: if you want to turn on full completion in the shell, edit .bashrc and uncomment the lines about bash_completion
[10:41] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, haha thanks im going to need it!
[10:41] <matyas_za> what is the link where i can find all the ubuntu packages?
[10:41] <mustard5> Kerrian, try doing it again I would say
[10:42] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: unfortunately ATI has a notoriously bad reputation when it comes to Linux
[10:42] <dooglus> matyas_za: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[10:42] <matyas_za> thank you
[10:42] <mustard5> Kerrian, you might need the legacy drivers ..I'm not sure..its a pretty old card isnt it?
[10:42] <ideafix> even in windows
[10:42] <OmegaAlpha> am i able to buy a new one for a laptop for cheap?
[10:42] <ideafix> i couldnt runn quake3 with ATI
[10:42] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: a new video card ?
[10:43] <matyas_za> dooglus: isnt there one that starts with archive?
[10:43] <Kerrian> hooray
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> p0windah, yes. with 3d graffix accelerator
[10:43] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: not really, no
[10:43] <Kerrian> damn bash errors
[10:43] <dooglus> matyas_za: yes.  the packages site will link to it once you've searched for your package
[10:43] <OmegaAlpha> crapola
[10:44]  help download boot ubuntu to floppy
[10:44] <Kerrian> god I'm glad they got rid ot root passwords
[10:44] <Kerrian> those got annoying after entering them 30-40 times a day
[10:44] <p0windah> OmegaAlpha: and even if you could, there are 2 or 3 different ATI drivers, with each one implementing a different and limited range of features
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> how much could i see a used 3 yr old laptop for
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> haha
[10:44] <OmegaAlpha> sell*
[10:44] <matyas_za> thanks
[10:44] <PenYaiR> help download floppydisk for ubuntu
[10:44] <mustard5> Kerrian, well its still go sudo password, but it usually remembers your password being entered for a time period
[10:45] <morphix> :/
[10:45] <morphix> i have found out what my problem is with my hdds.
[10:45] <dooglus> when I try to update, I see this: "dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xfce4-session_4.3.0svn+r19871-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/xfce4/tips/tips', which is also in package xfce4-toys".  I don't need xfce4 at all any more - can I somehow remove the conflicting packages?
[10:45] <PenYaiR> i comp no support cdrom
[10:45] <morphix> its cause i have Promise Technology IDE/SATA RAID controller built it
[10:45] <Vartotojas> damn. wtf "hdd-mod-intel can't not found" ?\
[10:45] <Kerrian> I just remembered something
[10:45] <morphix> and ubuntu doesnt support it fully
[10:46] <p0windah> dooglus: dpkg -P xfce4
[10:46] <PenYaiR> i need url for boot to floppy
[10:46] <dooglus> p0windah: thanks
[10:46] <Kerrian> after I put in that code dooglus gave me, for about half a second there was an Nvidia splashscreen
[10:46] <morphix> does anyone know how to compile the kernel modules for Promise Technology Controllers?
[10:46] <mustard5> Kerrian, thats good then :)
[10:46] <mustard5> Kerrian, its working
[10:46] <Kerrian> how do I go check to make sure they loaded?
[10:47] <morphix> i have been trying to do the usual thing with SuSE as i do with Ubuntu.. to install base then install fluxbox/openbox
[10:47] <mustard5> Kerrian, I would install nvidia-settings
[10:47] <morphix> its so screwed in SuSE lol
[10:47] <mustard5> Kerrian, that should allow you to play with brightness/contrast/gamma and would confirm
[10:47] <Tamoio_br> someone have ubuntu in one k6II 500mhz or PIII 500mhz???
[10:47] <Kerrian> k
[10:48] <mustard5> Kerrian, the splash screen is pretty good confirmation though
[10:48] <Kerrian> I already installed it
[10:48] <Kerrian> during thet howto
[10:48] <dooglus> p0windah: that has fixed it, thanks.
[10:48] <mustard5> Kerrian, k...type nvidia-settings in terminal then to run it
[10:49] <Kerrian> looks like it worked
[10:49] <mustard5> Kerrian, well done :)  not too many hiccups with that one then
[10:49] <Kerrian> I'm starting to see why people kept telling me to try Ubuntu
[10:49] <Kerrian> you know, back when I was using Libranet, it took me a full 3 months to install my video drivers
[10:50] <mustard5> Kerrian, I can only imagine... :)
[10:50] <p0windah> yah, linux + video cards = huge head aches
[10:50] <mustard5> Kerrian, I've only been on linux since June last year...Ubuntu is my first distro
[10:50] <PenYaiR> i need url for download bootdisk to floppy
[10:50] <Kerrian> especially nvidia cards
[10:50] <Chrisx1> how do i read my log files?
[10:50] <PenYaiR> help me
[10:50] <p0windah> Chrisx1: tail -f /var/log/messages
[10:50] <mustard5> PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to?
[10:50] <Kerrian> I don't spose I should hold out that my winsows based bgames work on ubuntu?
[10:50] <Chrisx1> tah
[10:50] <Kerrian> bgames = games
[10:50] <p0windah> Kerrian: dont
[10:50] <Kerrian> been a really long night
[10:51] <p0windah> Kerrian: windows games are written for windows
[10:51] <Kerrian> I know
[10:51] <Kerrian> but didn't know if there was an emulation tool built into ubuntu
[10:51] <pepsi> where can i find info about the server installation? just the bare minimum i guess? but something explainging what the bare minimum ubuntu install actually _is_
[10:51] <mustard5> p0windah, you mean the 'smartboot' how to for getting a CD to boot from floppy?
 PenYaiR, the 'smartboot' how to? <-- please paste url ?
[10:51] <mustard5> !smartboot
[10:51] <ubotu> well, smartboot is If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[10:52] <NET||abuse> Hi all, i'm seriously interested in playing with Xgl and either compiz or something along those lines... I am that crazy/stupid to do it on my laptop :)
[10:52] <Kerrian> gah, so tempted to play blackjack
[10:52] <p0windah> Kerrian: wine works to a degree, but sound + video support in linux is generally flakey, and thats not something that is going to get fixed anytime soon either
[10:52] <NET||abuse> where can i get the step by step to add it to my install? or is it easily installed with just dapper?
[10:52] <mustard5> Kerrian, a lot of stuff is covered in the Ubuntu Starter Guide in your help menu...under 'System'
[10:52] <p0windah> NET||abuse: go figure it out, then you can write the howto
[10:53] <Kerrian> its really a pity more game companiers don't make their games linus compatible
[10:53] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, try looking on the forums at http://ubuntuforums.org
[10:53] <mustard5> Kerrian, I've still got win98se installed for windows games
[10:53] <PenYaiR> !ping me
[10:53] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PenYaiR
[10:53] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, someone might have figured it, i dont know.
[10:53] <p0windah> Kerrian: a few companies have tried
[10:54] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: cheers,
[10:54] <mustard5> PenYaiR, sorry ..it was an autocomplete error :)
[10:54] <p0windah> Kerrian: and all gone under
[10:54] <Kerrian> is it true that unreal tournament is linux compliant?
[10:54] <mustard5> PenYaiR, doh..I just realised I had the right nick in the first place
[10:55] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: any idea if people have managed to get all features working alright? and my main concern is supporting my graphics card... i'm actually not too sure if fglrx will support it.. ATI mobility radeon 7500
[10:55] <PenYaiR> tx friend
[10:55] <PenYaiR> tx all
[10:55] <mustard5> PenYaiR, did you get the url
[10:55] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, what graphics card do you have?
[10:55] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, oh, right
[10:55] <redblade> hi i'm trying to set up a lamp server
[10:55] <p0windah> NET||abuse: not sure, but why dont you try to get 3ddesktop working first - then give xgl and compviz a whack
[10:55] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu: ;) any clue if support is there for that card?
[10:56] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, there would be, however i'm not sure how. i do believe you might need kernel patches, but again i'm not sure. the forum will help you alot with that, as it's an ongoing issue with ubuntu afaik
[10:56] <steve60> bosco, you there
[10:56] <redblade> but for some reason apache is coming up with errors
[10:56] <suspended> I try and apt-get install mplayer-586 but I get this error
[10:56] <suspended> mplayer-586: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable
[10:56] <NET||abuse> p0windah: ok, i'm in a bit of a "ooh look at that" when i saw the demo video and now i would like to get my hands on it, so i didn't realise there was a 3d desktop coponent too... :S
[10:56] <suspended> i have libdirectfb-0.9-22
[10:56] <suspended> but not 20
[10:56] <Chrisx1> Can anybody help me FOrce Removing PHPmyadmin ?
[10:56] <alumno> alumno
[10:57] <Hobbsee> Chrisx1: sudo aptitude purge packagename?
[10:57] <p0windah> NET||abuse: its not related to 3ddesktop, but if you cant get 3d working and 3ddesktop functional(which there *are* heaps of tutorials), you have no hope in hell of getting xgl and compviz working
[10:58] <NET||abuse> ok, that's good to know, at least now i have a starting point to dig up on!
[10:58] <Chrisx1> Hobbsee : /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[10:58] <Chrisx1> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--purge):
[10:58] <NET||abuse> p0windah: i'm newish to geting components like that working; )
[10:58] <steve60> anyone know how to setup icons in el6
[10:58] <p0windah> NET||abuse: yeah, try and get 3ddesktop working, if thats cool on your machine, then try the tricky stuff :)
[10:58] <NET||abuse> p0windah: but i'm stupid enough to keep trying and trying till it works
[10:58] <Hobbsee> er, pass
[10:59] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, nothing wrong with stubborness
[10:59] <p0windah> NET||abuse: well if you have an ATI card, the signal/noise is quite bad
[10:59] <NET||abuse> elkbuntu p0windah: actually, if i can't get it workin on my laptop,, maybe i should try on my home desktop
[10:59] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, yup
[10:59] <NET||abuse> my home pc is a amd 64 x2 3800+
[11:00] <NET||abuse> with gainward nforce4
[11:00] <p0windah> NET||abuse: theres probably atleast 20 different ways in the ubuntuforums you can "attempt" to get ATI working, none of which is comprehensive
[11:00] <NET||abuse> so what about gainward support, how would that fair?
[11:00] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, p0windah and none of which work for every card ;)
[11:01] <MuLLeR> woah 606 users .. :)
[11:01] <MuLLeR> hey yall
[11:01] <nlindblad> morning MuLLeR
[11:01] <elkbuntu> NET||abuse, p0windah on my dell optiplex g1 that has an ati card, it suffices for me to simply edit the config to make it use a lesser colour depth
[11:02] <p0windah> I had to write the entire xorg.cong so I could get my dual head setup working, with each LCD using a different resolution
[11:02] <Chrisx1> whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver
[11:02] <NET||abuse> ok, yeh, my graphics card at home is gainward geforce 7800GT
[11:02] <robinl1> where can i get 3d applications like tdfsb and metisse and stuff? i mean where do i get a list of em?
[11:02] <NET||abuse> so would that be supported do you reakon?
[11:02] <p0windah> turning on *some* features will crash my box, and theres nothing in any docs that will help you understand what may/may not crash...
[11:03] <MuLLeR> hm .. someone can give me a hint .. how to boot WinXP from an SATA drive and Ubuntu from PATA? i used both lilo and grub ... lilo boots Ubuntu fine ... but XP bootstrap hangs .. oh .. and Ubuntu is on Ch1 .. Ch2...
[11:03] <MuLLeR> (XP Ch2)
[11:04] <eobanb> Muller, that's pretty much a windows problem, not an ubuntu problem
[11:04] <MuLLeR> yeah .. i know .. :)
[11:04] <eobanb> i'm guessing you need the right SATA driver installed for windows.  windows sata support sucks
[11:04] <Chrisx1> whats wrong with this db_get phpmyadmin/reconfigure-webserver
[11:04] <noppo> people, how to play Xvid movies?
[11:05] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy
[11:05] <NET||abuse> most players will get the codecs
[11:05] <NET||abuse> noppo: you using xine?
[11:05] <MuLLeR> eobanb: no.. XP boot-uped  fine before lilo .. :)
[11:05] <noppo> NET||abuse, totem
[11:05] <NET||abuse> I found xine more reliable in supporting encoding types
[11:06] <ideafix> arent they the same ?
[11:06] <noppo> NET||abuse, okay, installing xine
[11:06] <eobanb> MuLLeR, why exactly are you using lilo
[11:06] <MuLLeR> eobanb: because when i used grub .. it bootup-ed only XP
[11:07] <Chrisx1> cany any1 help please!!!
[11:07] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: and what happened to the linux part?
[11:08] <pepsi> hi there
[11:08] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: it even didn't show the bootmenu...
[11:08] <KenSentMe> is there a problem with the update servers?
[11:08] <MuLLeR> straight to XP boot
[11:08] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: that's not even grub
[11:08] <eobanb> Muller, you need to correctly configure grub.
[11:08] <steve60> does anyone know how to make the screen res small ing el6
[11:09] <K-Rich> can someone send me their ~/.gnome2/yelp-bookmarks.xbel file, i deleted it... for breezy please ???
[11:09] <eobanb> steve60, can you re-phrase that
[11:09] <steve60> does anyone know how to make the screen res small in enlightenment 6
[11:09] <eobanb> 'small'?
[11:09] <steve60> sorry i can hardly read the text
[11:09] <pepsi> im growing tired of gnome, and i want to try something else, although im not interested in KDE, as it seems just as big and intrusive as gnome, if not more.. im not sure which aspect or component in particular i dont like.. id like to build a desktop environment myself instead of getting everything and the kitchen sink thrown at me at once
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, try xfce
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:10] <pepsi> elkbuntu, but if i install the xubuntu package, will that be everything and the kitchen sink for xfce?
[11:10] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: i installed it both.. on hdc MBR and sda MBR .. :) ... and again straight to XP boot ...
[11:10] <elkbuntu> pepsi, no, you'll get the choice at the login screen
[11:10] <eobanb> pepsi, xfce is rather stripped down to begin with.
[11:10] <pepsi> ok
[11:10] <eobanb> steve60, that's an xorg issue, not an enlightenment one
[11:11] <elkbuntu> pepsi, just click the session icon in the bottom left corner and tell it what to use
[11:11] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: which device does your pc first boot hard disk up? the SATA or the PATA?
[11:11] <pepsi> im going to reinstall so that i dont have gnome littering itself all over.. do i do the bare minimum install? the server install? then install xubuntu-desktop?
[11:11] <eobanb> pepsi, there's no need to re-install the entire system.
[11:11] <MuLLeR> CDROM .. -> HDD -> CDROM ... (HardDisk -> PATA -> SATA)
[11:12] <elkbuntu> pepsi, but install xubuntu-desktop first
[11:12] <pepsi> eobanb, this is a broken dapper installation :) i really want to reinstall
[11:12] <eobanb> pepsi, in that case you would probably want the server install
[11:12] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: then you should have GRUB installed on PATA not both
[11:12] <elkbuntu> pepsi, then just delete unwanted gnomish bits as you find them
[11:13] <elkbuntu> eobanb, yah, it would probably suit him
[11:13] <pepsi> blah.. id rather it be clean to begin with so i dont have to look in ever nook and cranny to get rid of gnome
[11:13] <pepsi> ok
[11:13] <Alexi5> ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:13] <Alexi5> which one should i choose
[11:13] <eobanb> depends on your preference...
[11:13] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: i know ... but i can change HD bootup sequence ..
[11:13] <pepsi> ya, you just gotta try them
[11:14] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: and it was installed on PATA
[11:14] <eobanb> i personally like gnome over kde, but honestly, there are big advantages and disadvantages to each.
[11:14] <elkbuntu> pepsi, server install shouldnt take long... in fact i've been planning a smilar path as you for my web server
[11:14] <Alexi5> i have limited bandwidth and ned a linux os to do some work
[11:14] <hatake_kakashi> MuLLeR: and btw, if it went straight to winxp without showing press Esc for menu, etc then you don't have GRUB installed properly
[11:15] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, does it have to be tonight, or can you wait a month for free cds to come from shipit?
[11:15] <Alexi5> i like kde
[11:15] <eobanb> Alexi5, do you appreciate a more clean and simple look and feel, or a more complex and sophisticated UI?
[11:15] <Alexi5> but i would like to know if it is stable to work with
[11:15] <eobanb> they're both stable.
[11:15] <morphix> kde & gnome are equaly as boggy and crap
[11:15] <pepsi> elkbuntu, ya i know, im just wondering what the <foo>-desktop packages really install though.. i dont want everything and the kitchen sink again, but ill install xubuntu-desktop and see how that is before i try to remove other stuff
[11:16] <Alexi5> which one has a more clean and simple
[11:16] <eobanb> probably gnome.
[11:16] <Alexi5> ok
[11:16] <elkbuntu> pepsi well, you install xfce first, then if you find it not enough, do xubuntu-desktop and it'll fill in the missing pieces
[11:16] <pepsi> kde lets you configure too much,a nd i could never seem to find a "boring" default theme
[11:16] <cappiz> someone here using pftp?
[11:16] <eobanb> elkbuntu, i wouldn't do that.
[11:17] <elkbuntu> eobanb, why not?
[11:17] <pepsi> im sure if i configured for a hwile id be able to get kde to look nice, but it seems to default to more bright-and-shiny stuff
[11:17] <Alexi5> so kde has some great themes?
[11:17] <elkbuntu> pepsi, kde is made to be eye-candy, that's why
[11:18] <eobanb> xubuntu-desktop is the preferred package for installing xfce.  otherwise it's a bit hard to set up.
[11:18] <eobanb> Alexi5, both have nice themes.
[11:18] <Arafangion> Could anyone confirm that they can't resume from standby while not running X?
[11:18] <pepsi> ya im just gunna install xubuntu-desktop so i can see how it feels before delving deep to set it up.. i might though
[11:18] <Alexi5> xubuntu
[11:18] <pepsi> thanks a lot guys
[11:18] <pepsi> :)
[11:18] <Arafangion> (Rather, it resumes, but you can't see the screen)
[11:19] <Alexi5> it seems ubuntu is taking over the linux distro scene
[11:19] <elkbuntu> pepsi, have you more than one computer on the net?
[11:19] <pepsi> elkbuntu, ya
[11:19] <Arafangion> Alexi5, As a long time debian dude, I would have to agree.
[11:19] <Alexi5> ok
[11:19] <matyas_za> a
[11:19] <Alexi5> rpms suck
[11:19] <eobanb> no argument there..
[11:19] <elkbuntu> pepsi, we'll be here if you need to ask, then :)
[11:20] <Alexi5> right now i am on fedora
[11:20] <pepsi> elkbuntu, im downloading the breezy iso still though.. i cant find the one i burnt :(
[11:20] <morphix> Alexi5: much agree'd
[11:20] <ablomen> Alexi5, amen brother
[11:20] <Alexi5> and i can't install certain applications or some ther programs might not work
[11:20] <morphix> i find everything else in ubuntu to be perfect
[11:20] <morphix> except 1 thing
[11:20] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, which fc?
[11:20] <Alexi5> 4
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> fedora core
[11:20] <Alexi5> yeah
[11:20] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, fc is better
[11:20] <elkbuntu> err
[11:20] <hatake_kakashi> nm
[11:20] <mikelo> hi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom
[11:20] <elkbuntu> fc3
[11:21] <Arafangion> Alexi5, You'll find that it's not just that the rpm's "suck", it's more the 'culture' of the distro.
[11:21] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, they stuffed up fc4
[11:21] <mikelo> it boots fine
[11:21] <Alexi5> ok
[11:21] <Alexi5> yum is ok
[11:21] <eobanb> Arafangion, true enough.
[11:21] <ablomen> the whole rpms dependecy thing sucks, if you want rpms you should use suse
[11:21] <Alexi5> but i doesn't download some of the dependencies
[11:21] <morphix> suse = i dont like
[11:21] <morphix> yast or YOU sux
[11:22] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, yes, but i've heard this from numerous people... more people than i have digits to count on
[11:22] <eobanb> and urpmi.
[11:22] <Alexi5> before we go into the distro war
[11:22] <hatake_kakashi> talking rpm like that is like using dpkg, ever had to deal with dpkg and missing deps?
[11:22] <ablomen> no me neighter yast does let you download software in a apt get kinda way ;)
[11:23] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get is dpkg front-end, much like yum is for rpm's front-end
[11:23] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, i find dpkg dependancy errors at least easy to understand what's missing :)
[11:23] <eobanb> except the debian and ubuntu repositories are arguably superior
[11:23] <morphix> all i want is some way to get my Promise Technology IDE & SATA RAID onboard controller to work properly with ubuntu
[11:23] <Alexi5> which desktop enviroment is good for a celeron 2.2GHZ with 768MB RAM
[11:23] <morphix> Alexi5: ever used Fluxbox or Openbox?
[11:23] <eobanb> that's plenty fast enough to run either kde or gnome.
[11:23] <morphix> very lightweight
[11:23] <ablomen> Alexi5, gnome $ kde should run fine on that
[11:23] <wassha> good day
[11:23] <Arafangion> That reminds me, how the heck do I run certain programs whenever I login, on fluxbox?
[11:24] <NET||abuse> woohoooo...  My laptop is a rebranded G730 (from ECS) and it has Mobility Radeon 7500 (with 64MB dedicated ram). I think that's similar to M7 (I could be wrong). And with ATI's proprietary driver, it runs pretty well (for gaming).
[11:24] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, you should have no probs with any DE on that
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: meh, some compare rpm to apt-get which is completely different
[11:24] <wassha> another day another noob problem
[11:24] <Arafangion> I'm trying to use gnome-volume-manager
[11:24] <NET||abuse> that's a snipit from forums... yay.. mobility 7500 works ;)
[11:24] <wassha> :)
[11:24] <morphix> Arafangion: ~/.fluxbox/init
[11:24] <Chrisx1> How do i clear aptitude from wanting to delete some files
[11:24] <Alexi5> ok
[11:24] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, similar concept though
[11:24] <Alexi5> i feel i might go with kde
[11:24] <mwillis> I am trying to set up a minimal dev station.  Do you know any install tutorials I can use?
[11:24] <Arafangion> morphix, I thought that was just a configuration file?
[11:24] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: similar but not exactly, its like yum vs. dpkg
[11:24] <elkbuntu> hatake_kakashi, hence the confusion. apples and oranges are both fruit, but they're nothing alike other than that ;)
[11:24] <Arafangion> morphix, It doesn't look anything like a shell script.
[11:24] <tennee> hello
[11:24] <KenSentMe> what is the best way to make Windows startup as default? Should i use saved or default under 'default num'  in menu.lst
[11:25] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?
[11:25] <morphix> Arafangion: you specify in there what stuff u want to load up with fluxbox
[11:25] <Alexi5> does ubuntu have good documentation
[11:25] <thegladiator> Alexi5, yes
[11:25] <morphix> best i can find lol
[11:25] <eobanb> as good as any.
[11:25] <thegladiator> !doc
[11:25] <ubotu> doc is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[11:25] <tennee> hello folks
[11:25] <paquin> i need help with 3d desktop
[11:25] <paquin> i can't make it work
[11:25] <hatake_kakashi> elkbuntu: no no, you don't see my point, rpm doesn't do deps just like dpkg, both whinge if deps are missing. apt-get and yum are basically the ones that deals with them and providing deps, etc making life easier
[11:25] <ablomen> ore just the help button i the menu ;)
[11:25] <nathanj> anyone have any idea how to get azureus working with a 604T router?
[11:26] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell Alexi5 about doc
[11:26] <paquin> pls??
[11:26] <thegladiator> is there a nautilus extention that lets me open files with root access ?
[11:26] <Arafangion> morphix, So, just "gnome-volume-manager", along with all the "session.screen0.overlay.lineStyle: LineSolid" stuff?
[11:26] <eobanb> paquin, what do you need help with, exactly?
[11:26] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, not only best documentation, best community support ;)
[11:26] <paquin> i cant make it work
[11:26] <paquin> I assigned it to alt <f3>
[11:26] <eobanb> paquin, what are you trying to do...explain it very precisely, please
[11:26] <ablomen> thegladiator, sudo nautilus /home/
[11:26] <paquin> ok
[11:26] <morphix> !tell Arafangion about fluxbox
[11:26] <Alexi5> so i guess kubuntu does have this much support?
[11:27] <thegladiator> i am downloading  kernel 2 6 12 10 28
[11:27] <elkbuntu> ablomen, i dont think that's what he meant
[11:27] <paquin> I already installed 3ddesktop
[11:27] <thegladiator> ablomen, thats what I normally do...looking for a nautilus extention
[11:27] <paquin> and followed every step on wiki to make it work
[11:27] <thegladiator> so that I can avoid doing that every time
[11:27] <paquin> but
[11:27] <KenSentMe> what does the savedefault option do in grub?
[11:27] <paquin> it doesn't work at all
[11:28] <Arafangion> morphix, I've just never done it via that file, that's all.  Normally I edit .xinitrc, however if I'm not running X, for some wierd reason, my standby goes kupult.
[11:28] <ablomen> thegladiator, well if it exist it will still mean youd have to use your root password
[11:28] <paquin> my nvidia driver is working fine
[11:28] <paquin> I've got a nvidia 5200 fxgo
[11:28] <thegladiator> ablomen, yep I know that but it would be asier to right click on a file ....and open it up ...just making thigns easy
[11:28] <paquin> 64 MB
[11:29] <eobanb> paquin, does the daemon start?
[11:29] <thegladiator> ablomen, nautlis-open-terminal extention is very usefule for me
[11:29] <mwillis> Anyone care to tell me about their awesome ubuntu installation?
[11:29] <paquin> how do I do that??
[11:29] <ablomen> thegladiator, you can make a lill bash script
[11:29] <eobanb> paquin, it's on the wiki page
[11:29] <thegladiator> ablomen, yep thats correct , i was enuring there is nt something like that  then...
[11:30] <ablomen> thegladiator, or a launcher on your pannel that starts someting like "gksudo nautilus" that saves you the time of opening a terminal
[11:30] <thegladiator> do you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ?
[11:31] <Alexi5> hello
[11:31] <thegladiator> ablomen, thanks
[11:31] <thegladiator> the*
[11:31] <ablomen> thegladiator, good luck
[11:31] <NET||abuse> am i better off using fglrx drivers, or should i sarch out the ATI secific drivers??
[11:31] <NET||abuse> on my ATI mobility radeon 7500
[11:31] <Alexi5> does the ubuntu documentation also apply to kubuntu
[11:32] <ablomen> Alexi5, most of the time yes
[11:32] <Arafangion> NET||abuse, With mine, (Mine's a laptop model), I had good success with the ATI ones.
[11:32] <morphix> thegladiator do you guys remove he older kernels from the grub ? > if the newer kernel boots up perfect than yes, i remove the old one
[11:32] <Arafangion> morphix, I like to have a spare.
[11:32] <NET||abuse> Arafangion: what are the ATI ones called in the repos??
[11:32] <morphix> eh
[11:32] <thegladiator> thanks I have 3-4 kernels
[11:33] <thegladiator> I thought its safer to do that...mayb just keep a grub copy and change it over then
[11:33] <ablomen> Alexi5, only the kde thing is realy different ;)
[11:33] <NET||abuse> Arafangion: or do i have to download them and compile/install seperately from ATI site?
[11:34] <Alexi5> ok
[11:34] <thegladiator> Alexi5, are you in ubuntu/kubuntu which one ?
[11:34] <Alexi5> i have a tendency to switch destops in fedora
[11:34] <Alexi5> i am just trying to make up mu mind on which one to get
[11:35] <r00t3d_> algum br ai?
[11:35] <nathanj> anyone ever had trouble with linux and particular router ?
[11:35] <ablomen> Alexi5, lol i could tell you to use gnome but somebody else is gonna say kde ;)
[11:35] <thegladiator> ah cool its all avaialb , documentaiotn etc in ubuntu is very imperssive , me too migrated from fedora
[11:35] <Hobbsee> nathanj: router, no.  wireless card, yes
[11:35] <Hobbsee> nathanj: what type of router are you looking at?
[11:35] <Alexi5> ablomen:why would you say gnome
[11:35] <nathanj> Hobbsee: i dont see how it is possible.
[11:36] <thegladiator> I like gnome cause it has a very clear look and a simple feeling :)
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: a dlink g604t just connecting via ethernet i have internet but shit doesnt work
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: bittornado works, azureus doesnt.
[11:36] <thegladiator> no hypes and hooplahs just get working with pleasant looks
[11:36] <ablomen> Alexi5, becouse i love nautilus, i like most gnome apps better then most kde apps, i like the look, the feel, everything ;)
[11:36] <rezusr> have anyone installed sun sdk on dapper?
[11:36] <nathanj> Hobbsee: on windows i can use <IP_ADDRESS> as the dns and on linux i cant i have to use the isp dns servers
[11:37] <thegladiator> nathanj, azureus issues ask at #azureus , and  ensure that you have the correct port etc...they might be more helpful in these cases
[11:37] <paquin> ok
[11:37] <Hobbsee> nathanj: language, and check the open ports on the firewall on the router, i suspect.
[11:37] <Alexi5> konqueror is also good
[11:37] <Hobbsee> but follow what thegladiator said
[11:37] <paquin> I already ran 3ddesktop daemon
[11:37] <paquin> but i got error messages
[11:37] <paquin> like this one
[11:37] <ablomen> Alexi5, thats your opinion, i hate it, its just not my logic, it feels alien ;)
[11:38] <paquin> Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:38] <Alexi5> i feel i might go with ubuntu becuase i get good support here than in kubuntu
[11:38] <sekhar> hai
[11:38] <matyas_za> I got a problem
[11:38] <thegladiator> the only thinkg that I dont like in gnome is maybe the menu area "file edit" etc  which looks all the same for every software be it eye of gnome or nautilus...
[11:38] <ablomen> Alexi5, for me using kde is like using a mac with the one mouse button thing ;)
[11:38] <matyas_za> i get this error msg
[11:38] <matyas_za> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:38] <MuLLeR> hatake_kakashi: can u show me ur menu.lst?
[11:38] <paquin> how can I make 3ddesktop run??
[11:39] <sekhar> anyway can i change the size of the swap partition of the ubuntu?
[11:39] <thegladiator> everything looks as if it is just a single package under the gnome and nto like a diff software at all
[11:39] <thegladiator> I like each s/w to have its own look :)
[11:39] <ablomen> paquin, on theire site theres a good manual
[11:39] <Hobbsee> matyas_za: you can ignore it
[11:39] <Alexi5> can i instal kdevelop in gnome
[11:39] <paquin> do you have the url??
[11:39] <thegladiator> Alexi5, yes
[11:40] <Niekie> matyas_za, your best bet is to inform<EMAIL_ADDRESS>about it, I guess.
[11:40] <ablomen> paquin, google ;)
[11:40] <Alexi5> nice
[11:40] <thegladiator> Alexi5, I have both installed ...I like some kde apps like Konv
[11:40] <elkbuntu> Alexi5, yes, just gotta download right libs etc, which will be dependancies in apt
[11:40] <matyas_za> thanks guys
[11:40] <matyas_za> its when i run apt-get update
[11:40] <thegladiator> Alexi5, its a meta package called kde-desktop , you can just install it
[11:40] <Hobbsee> matyas_za: Niekie: it's only a warning, as long as you trust the source, which you do, it's fine
[11:40] <ablomen> paquin, just google on 3ddesktop or type that in your firefox location bar thingy
[11:40] <Alexi5> ok
[11:40] <matyas_za> I see thanks
[11:40] <cyberic_s> damn, anybody know how to get outlook express emails into thunderbird
[11:40] <Niekie> Hobbsee, someone "might" have breached the server tho.
[11:41] <sekhar> hii anyhow can i run change the size of swap partion of ubuntu?
[11:41] <Hobbsee> Niekie: it's possible
[11:41] <BockBilbo> anyone here knows why beagle from apt cant be installed on dapper?
[11:41] <Alexi5> guys
[11:41] <Alexi5> which is best to get
[11:41] <Alexi5> cd or dvd
[11:41] <chicken-man> Hi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?
[11:41] <ablomen> cyberic_s, the easyest thing to do is to import that into thunderbird on a windows box
[11:41] <Alexi5> if i getthe cd will i have to download gigs of software
[11:41] <steve60> anyone know how to setup el6
[11:42] <farous> steve60: e16 just run out of the box after installing it
[11:42] <Hobbsee> Alexi5: then again, it will take you much longer to get the dvd than the cd
[11:42] <farous> e17 on the other hand is the prob
[11:42] <chmod775> !w32codecs
[11:42] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[11:42] <steve60> what the irc channel for el6
[11:42] <yanis> how can I found what dev is in /dev a usb cdrom to device?I want to mount it
[11:42] <Alexi5> ok
[11:43] <ablomen> cyberic_s, after that you should copy the account files to your linux px
[11:43] <ablomen> *pc
[11:43] <mikelo> hi i'm trying yo install the server version to a P1 machine but i get a problem mounting the cdrom
[11:43] <Arafangion> steve60, #e, I think.
[11:43] <thegladiator> any one here runs Init NG ? aftr installing the new kernel I suppose the Init NG dissapeared ?!
[11:43] <ablomen> mikelo, whats the error?
[11:43] <zqy> hello
[11:43] <thegladiator> zqy, hello
[11:44] <sekhar> help me please
[11:44] <zqy> i cant use BT
[11:44] <zqy> WHY??
[11:44] <wassha> i am using Firestarter and cannot solve problem with thunderbird connection to gmail account.. i enable outside connection to 995 (pops) and 465(ssmtp) port, but when i try to get messages from gmail, firestarter shows that thuntherbird wants connect ports 33233 etc. (when i enable that port, it wants another one e.g. 33280)
[11:44] <thegladiator> sekhar, ask away....
[11:44] <chicken-man> Hi, I'm having problems starting gnome, I've just done a full install of ubuntu but after I login gnome displays a brown screen and will go no more, I get no errors I can see I'm using fluxbox at the moment, what should I do ?
[11:44] <chmod775> sekhar, hi
[11:44] <sekhar> the gladiator, anyhow can i change the size of swap partion ??
[11:44] <mikelo> ablomen, it says it can't detect the cdrom correctly
[11:44] <yanis> anybody
[11:44] <yanis> ?
[11:45] <Alexi5> this channel feels more lively than kubuntu
[11:45] <ablomen> mikelo, with just one cdrom, as in did you try others?
[11:45] <Alexi5> in the next 6 hours i will be installing ubuntu
[11:45] <thegladiator> sekhar, whats your current swap size?
[11:45] <morphix> out of all the distro help channles.. this channel is by far the most helping and friendly
[11:45] <thegladiator> !swap
[11:45] <ubotu> swap is, like, used to put unused programs out of memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[11:45] <farous> chicken-man: ok look at a hidden file called .ICeauthority and see if you have write access to it
[11:45] <chmod775> Is there any application with ubuntu where I can easily change from wireless to normal connection ?
[11:46] <mikelo> ablomen, it's an old machine... i'm lucky it has a cdrom
[11:46] <krzkrzkrz> the default file system of ubuntu is ext3?
[11:46] <sekhar> my swap size is 1 gb
[11:46] <chmod775> But a click on an icon on the gnome taskbar
[11:46] <morphix> yes
[11:46] <bimberi> krz: yes
[11:46] <thegladiator> sekhar, sekharji go throuht this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[11:46] <ablomen> mikelo, i dindt ment the drive i ment the actual cdrom
[11:46] <chicken-man> farous, ok one moment
[11:46] <farous> chicken-man: also look for.Xauthourit you should have full access to both
[11:46] <wassha> so how sould i setup firestarter to work correctly with thunderbird gmail account?
[11:46] <chmod775> !firestarted
[11:46] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chmod775
[11:46] <zqy> HELP ME!I CANT USE bt
[11:46] <chmod775> !firestarter
[11:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[11:47] <krz> bimberi would it be possible to change the file system/
[11:47] <zqy> HELP ME!I CANT USE AZUREUS
[11:47] <mikelo> ablomen, it's been tested already, but i think i do have another one
[11:47] <mikelo> i'll try that
[11:47] <chmod775> !nm
[11:47] <ubotu> chmod775: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:47] <thegladiator> zqy, #azureus  Please :-)
[11:47] <chmod775> !network
[11:47] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[11:47] <chicken-man> farous, errrm how do I display hidden files using ls ?
[11:47] <chmod775> ls -alh
[11:48] <Chrisx1> ls -A
[11:48] <wassha> nobody knows?
[11:48] <bimberi> krz: yes, the installer offers other options if you manually partition
[11:48] <farous> ok got to log out and in again
[11:48] <athlon> I messed up my grub configuration, how do I restore it to the default condition ? That is, how do I tell grub to search where the windows and ubuntu partition are, create grub entries in menu.lst and install it on the right mbr
[11:48] <ablomen> mikelo, ok otherwise it could be a plug-and play problem but if the bios sees the cdrom it wont be that i think
[11:48] <mikelo> is it possible to change partition sizes?swap and other ones
[11:48] <KenSentMe> if i delete the .evolution folder in my home will evolution build it automaticly at restart?
[11:48] <chicken-man> farous, I have Read \ Write access to them
[11:49] <mikelo> ablomen, could be considering the age of the pc
[11:49] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, with defaults I think
[11:49] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, what do you mean?
[11:49] <ablomen> mikelo, shure that can be it, but it runs on most of the hardware iv seen, including pc's from the stone-age
[11:49] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, your personal data will be lost I think , like user pass etc
[11:50] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, i want to have my evolution like a fresh install, is this the way?
[11:50] <KenSentMe> thegladiator, that's what i want i think
[11:50] <thegladiator> KenSentMe, what about trying to remove the package ? can someone tell him how to remove the packagae and resintall it ?   also delete the dolfer if it is not already deleted
[11:51] <chmod775> how do I install jre for mozilla firefox
[11:51] <chmod775> ?
[11:51] <chicken-man> farous, Do I have to be able to execute them ...... ?
[11:51] <ablomen> KenSentMe, if you delete your profile dir you have a clean install, but youll lose all of your mail
[11:51] <thegladiator> chmod775, !restriced ?
[11:51] <KenSentMe> ablomen, that's what i wanted to know, thanx
[11:51] <ablomen> KenSentMe, for evolution that is
[11:51] <KenSentMe> k
[11:51] <chmod775> !restriced
[11:51] <ubotu> chmod775: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:51] <chmod775> huh ?
[11:52] <paquin> nope
[11:52] <ablomen> KenSentMe, so you should look for a .evolution dir in the home or .gnome2 dir
[11:52] <thegladiator> whats restricted format ubotu ?
[11:52] <paquin> already downloaded the newest version of nvidia
[11:52] <thegladiator> !restrictedformat
[11:52] <ubotu> thegladiator: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:52] <paquin> nothing
[11:52] <chmod775> hehe
[11:52] <bimberi> !restricted
[11:52] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:52] <paquin> can't make 3ddesktop work
[11:52] <thegladiator> yeah chmod775 !
[11:53] <KenSentMe> huh, i did rm -R .evolution, but when i started the program it had al my files already
[11:53] <thegladiator> typos guys I am full of it]
[11:53] <thegladiator> see that ]  at the end ?!
[11:53] <thegladiator> k i am going to restart now ...new kernel testing
[11:53] <ablomen> KenSentMe, its easyer to remove it in nautilus
[11:53] <tibor> Hi all, I have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.10
[11:54] <tibor> I am the only chap with this problem?
[11:54] <ablomen> KenSentMe, if you click on view=>show hidden files, you can just delete it easely
[11:54] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i did, but my accounts weren't lost
[11:55] <tibor> the 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel
[11:55] <ablomen> where did you delete them, witch folder exactly? (including the /home etc)
[11:55] <KenSentMe> ablomen, it just makes a new .ev folder and show my existing accounts
[11:55] <tibor> earlier the 686 kernel did well, withoput problems
[11:55] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i think i will try a full purge of evolution
[11:56] <KenSentMe> ablomen, that should help
[11:56] <raphael_> how can i search one file in the ubuntu?
[11:56] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok good luck
[11:56] <farous> so each time i update the kernel. I need to recompile the ATI prop  drivers :(
[11:56] <KenSentMe> ablomen, i deleted it from my home/user folder
[11:56] <raphael_> how can i search one file in the ubuntu?
[11:57] <farous> raphael_: can you be more clear
[11:57] <mikelo> raphael, find / | grep file_name
[11:57] <raphael_> i want find, the folder MUSIC
[11:57] <tibor> raphael: find / -name file
[11:57] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok... strange it should work, i cant see where it would store its mail if not there
[11:57] <farous> ls /dir/filename. or locate to find it in your path
[11:58] <raphael_> but, have one way on graphic mode?
[11:58] <tibor> raphael: find / -name MUSIC
[11:58] <KenSentMe> ablomen, when i try to fully delete evolution it suggest deleting ubuntu desktop, i don't think that's right
[11:58] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get gnome to start.
[11:58] <ablomen> lol no it isnt
[11:58] <farous> raphael_: the is a search icon in the menu
[11:58] <ablomen> KenSentMe, wait a sec im gonna try miselfe
[11:59] <KenSentMe> ablomen, k
[11:59] <bimberi> raphael_: Places -> Search for FIles...
[11:59] <farous> chicken-man: did you check that you have full access to both files
[11:59] <raphael_> ok thanks
[11:59] <ablomen> KenSentMe, ok iv found it
[11:59] <thegladiator> i have a bunh of rar files I downloaded from a movie site , the question is could there be virus in the same  ?
[11:59] <chicken-man> farous, Read, Write and Execute ;-)
[12:00] <thegladiator> its a documentary sort of thing
[12:00] <lulu> hi
[12:00] <chicken-man> farous, Read, I have full access to them files but it don't help
[12:00] <lulu> does anyone know what's passive ftp connection?
[12:00] <ablomen> KenSentMe, just go to your home folder, do ctrl+h and rename the .evolution folder to .evolution1 or anything like that
[12:00] <tibor> I have some problems after yesterday'a automatic update of 5.10
[12:00] <chicken-man> ooops
[12:00] <cappiz> someone here knows of a ftp client wich supports ssl/PRET/FXP transfers in only one command... meaning; i cant type a fulll command in shell and it would do the fxp... witout have to logon the first ftp
[12:00] <ablomen> KenSentMe, then it makes a new profile
[12:00] <cappiz> and then enter a fxp command.
[12:01] <tibor> the 686 kernel panics and I can only use the 386 kernel
[12:01] <ablomen> KenSentMe, offcoure you should quit evolution tough ;)
[12:01] <farous> chicken-man: i am trying to hink what might caused this prob. it only happen when you play with .gnome .gnome2 files
[12:01] <tibor> earlier the 686 kernel did well, without problems
[12:01] <KenSentMe> ablomen, let's try :)
[12:02] <chicken-man> farous, hmm well the only thing I've done from the install was to disable hotplug
[12:02] <raphael_> i cant find? the file must be on SDA1 SDA2 or SDA3 are NTFS files. and say the permision denie
[12:02] <raphael_> denied
[12:02] <KenSentMe> ablomen, it just created a new .ev folder with my files in it !
[12:02] <KenSentMe> KenSentMe, i'm going to reboot, maybe that helps
[12:02] <ablomen> did you close evolution?
[12:02] <farous> chicken-man: sorry man i have no idea
[12:02] <tibor> do find with sudo
[12:02] <KenSentMe> ablomen, yes
[12:02] <chicken-man> farous, lol ok :-)
[12:02] <farous> hope you can find your prob :)
[12:03] <raphael_> ?
[12:03] <chicken-man> farous, me to, other than that I'll use KDE
[12:03] <ablomen> KenSentMe, damn it did work for me, just for the sake of it, type killall evolution in your terminal and try again ok?
[12:03] <farous> chicken-man: they are all good. Preferring fluxbox here myself
[12:04] <ablomen> KenSentMe, like the whole renaming thing again and then open evolution
[12:04] <raphael_> plz, help me
[12:04] <chicken-man> farous, :-D yeah fluxbox is nice
[12:05] <raphael_> how  can i find this files? i have the password
[12:05] <ablomen> raphael_, you have to set permisions right in /etc/fstab
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> hi i need some help concerning my router and ubuntu
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> basically my router gives <IP_ADDRESS> as the dns server when you configure via dhcp. on windows it workts fine, my router routes all dns requests to the dns servers it got form my isp
[12:06] <skunk_eyed> in windows this works fine, but in ubuntu it cannot get the IPs from a url
[12:06] <raphael_> how can i ser the permission?
[12:06] <thegladiator> raphael, chmod
[12:06] <ablomen> thegladiator, no he means in fstab
[12:06] <KenSentMe> ablomen, nope, doesn't help
[12:07] <thegladiator> oh sorry
[12:07] <cyberic_s> hey guys, what is a good ftp client
[12:07] <ablomen> KenSentMe, damn your evolution is damn stubern
[12:07] <farous> shimmmy: put your router address in your default gateway section
[12:07] <raphael_> chmod ??? what more
[12:07] <thegladiator> cyberic_s, try !ftp
[12:07] <Arafangion> cyberic_s, "ftp" is the canonical program, afaik.
[12:07] <KenSentMe> ablomen, when i do the killall evolution it says no processes have ended (in dutch)
[12:07] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell cyberic_s about ftp
[12:07] <tomplast> hi, are there any guys out there that knows anything about firewire
[12:07] <ablomen> KenSentMe, a nederlands das al makkelijker ;)
[12:08] <Arafangion> !tell tomplast about ask
[12:08] <KenSentMe> ablomen, lol, inderdaad
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> actually. in the network config dialogue it has the dns server
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> and if i put in the dns server manually it works...
[12:08] <skunk_eyed> as in the dns servers my router gets from isp
[12:08] <tomplast> I have a Intel D865PERL motherboard with integrated firewire support but i cant get it working.
[12:09] <ablomen> KenSentMe, erm probeer anders is voor de grap de premissions van de .evolution mat naar niet mogen schrijven en lezen etc te zetten
[12:09] <ablomen> *map
[12:09] <KenSentMe> ablomen, chmod 000?
[12:09] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Try not to ask simultaniously in several channels.
[12:10] <skunk_eyed> sry
[12:10] <ablomen> KenSentMe, antwoord is in deprivate chat
[12:10] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, However, that aside, edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and set the prepend domain-name-servers to the correct value.
[12:10] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, That is only required if the dhcp server does NOT provide the correct dns servers.
[12:11] <skunk_eyed> what kind of value woudl that be?
[12:11] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Are you using dhcp?
[12:11] <tomplast> can anyone help me?
[12:11] <skunk_eyed> yes
[12:11] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Edit the file using your favorite editor using sudo, then find the line that begins with #prepend
[12:11] <KenSentMe> ablomen, zie je mijn chat?
[12:12] <skunk_eyed> wait, i will reboot and have a go
[12:12] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Then write a new line below that, using that line as a guide.
[12:12] <tomplast> it really pisses me of to not be able to use my handycam (uses a docking station) :/
[12:12] <thegladiator> tomplast, ask in the forums also please , since ppl might not know it out here atm
[12:12] <tomplast> oki
[12:12] <tomplast> thanks
[12:12] <tomplast> bye
[12:12] <thegladiator> ciao
[12:12] <ablomen> KenSentMe,
[12:13] <ablomen> KenSentMe, wacht ff ;)
[12:13] <KenSentMe> ablomen, k
[12:13] <KenSentMe> ablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen
[12:13] <ablomen> KenSentMe, probeer nog is (xchat werkt niet erg mee)
[12:14] <KenSentMe> ablomen, is toch rechtermuis, dialoogvenster openen
[12:15] <ablomen> KenSentMe, private kan niet
[12:15] <elkbuntu> err.. isnt there a channel for whichever language youse are speaking?
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, we try to
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, but private doent work
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, sorry
[12:15] <reza> hey
[12:15] <elkbuntu> are your nicks registered?
[12:15] <reza> i have a problem
[12:15] <KenSentMe> elkbuntu, mine is
[12:15] <ablomen> elkbuntu, nope thats the prob
[12:16] <elkbuntu> then register, it's not as though it costs or anything
[12:16] <ablomen> elkbuntu, i know but i first have to know how :P
[12:16] <reza> when i play wolfenstein then the windows go black and then normal but it slow then
[12:16] <reza> but then when it goes black and normal again it is fast
[12:16] <ablomen> elkbuntu, understanding linux.. ok understanding irc.. not my thinh
[12:17] <elkbuntu> -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>
[12:17] <elkbuntu> -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information
[12:17] <ablomen> ok thanks
[12:17] <reza> can anybody help?
[12:17] <morphix> anyone know of a way to get "Promise Technology Fasttrak 378 IDE/SATA RAID" controller to work under Ubuntu?
[12:17] <schasi> someone else got probs with wxgtk and amule?
[12:17] <skunk_eyed> sorry, but where do i find an xterm in the menus?
[12:18] <ablomen> KenSentMe, heb je niet gewoon msn ofz is n stuk makkelijker ;)
[12:18] <reza> lol
[12:18] <reza> nl
[12:18] <reza> :P
[12:18] <krz> does the install cd have some packages available?
[12:18] <KenSentMe> ablomen<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:18] <morphix> krz: yes
[12:19] <mahen> hell
[12:19] <mahen> +o
[12:19] <krz> i installed through the install cd. how do i tell what packages are available. im hoping to install fluxbox as my wm
[12:19] <morphix> ah
[12:19] <morphix> fluxbox isnt included on cd (that i am aware of)
[12:19] <kent> krz: search for them in synaptic?
[12:19] <morphix> just do
[12:19] <morphix> apt-get install fluxbox
[12:19] <usuario_> wadu
[12:19] <morphix> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:20] <reza> my xreen gos black
[12:20] <reza> screen
[12:20] <reza> and then normaal but it is slow
[12:20] <krz> also. how do i know that most of my hardware has been installed correctly?
[12:20] <krz> installed = configured
[12:21] <elkbuntu> anyone know why xfce update packages are being held back at the moment
[12:21] <kent> krz: if you dont know its not configured-  assume it is   :) I meen,  if you dont have any problems with  the hardware then its all good right?
[12:22] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: do i need to uncomment the prepend line?
[12:23] <Seveas> elkbuntu, try dist-upgrade
[12:23] <Seveas> instead of upgrade
[12:23] <elkbuntu> Seveas, i will, just wondering if there was some uber breaky thing likely to happen ;)
[12:23] <Seveas> yes
[12:24] <Seveas> it's dapper - breakage is always possible
[12:24] <elkbuntu> of course, but i like to have advanced warning, lol
[12:24] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Note, a # means that it is a comment, and your computer will ignore the remainder of the line
[12:24] <elkbuntu> i'll let youse know in a few mins... ;)
[12:24] <krz> right click unmount volume will safetly remove the usb device right?
[12:24] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: I know that
[12:25] <skunk_eyed> the prepend line is commented, do i need to uncomment it?
[12:25] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Depends. Do you want the system to use the line?
[12:25] <brenner> krz: yes
[12:25] <nonade> join #Ubuntu-fr
[12:25] <elkbuntu> whoa....
[12:27] <elkbuntu> seveas.. im inclined to say 'n'... what do you think... http://pastebin.com/559281
[12:27] <Seveas> elkbuntu, apt-get -s install -o"Debug::PkgProblemResolver=true"
[12:27] <Seveas> and output on the pastebin
[12:28] <Seveas> ehm, not install but dist-upgrade of course
[12:28] <elkbuntu> so im correct in being suspicious?
[12:28] <nm> wow talk about hardcores
[12:28] <nm> when i get up at 6
[12:28] <nm> this channel should be dead
[12:28] <northie> We're European.
[12:28] <Seveas> elkbuntu, somewhat
[12:28] <nm> oh
[12:28] <Seveas> nm, it's a global channel...
[12:29] <northie> Go Euroooope.
[12:29] <Seveas> go where?
[12:29] <nm> <- canuck
[12:29] <northie> All over yo face, mama
[12:29] <nm> but i'll keep it in mind
[12:29] <nm> ;p
[12:29] <bimberi> nm, 'evening from down under :)
[12:29] <northie> Har. Hi.
[12:29] <nm> bimberi: god save the queen
[12:29] <nm> hehe
[12:29] <Toma-> gday bimberi :D
[12:29] <bimberi> nm: lol
[12:29] <morphix> :o
[12:30] <bimberi> hi Toma-  :)
[12:30] <elkbuntu> Seveas, http://pastebin.com/559288
[12:30] <Toma-> what side of AU are u on?
[12:30] <morphix> i'm in aus :)
[12:30] <kasim> hello, any chance of getting my amd64 with SATA installed? Breezy was no success
[12:30] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion: it will prepend 127.0.01 to my resolv file. but i want the dns servers i get via dhcp to be used
[12:30] <bimberi> Toma-: from the east, and even worse (to you Sandgropers) - Canberra!
[12:30] <elkbuntu> we should start up an ubuntu-aus channel ;)
[12:31] <bimberi> :P
[12:31] <Toma-> haha
[12:31] <morphix> lol
[12:31] <bimberi> there is #ubuntu-au
[12:31] <elkbuntu> we could call it ubuntau ;)
[12:31] <Toma-> canberra is more of a 1 horse town than perth :D
[12:31] <elkbuntu> wtf i looked the other day and didnt see it
[12:31] <morphix> i live near Sydney :)
[12:31] <Seveas> elkbuntu, 'n'
[12:31] <nm> instead of one horse town, you should call it 'one nameserver town'
[12:31] <Chrisx1> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2540: lex: command not found
[12:31] <elkbuntu> already did that, figured i could do the command again if needed
[12:32] <Chrisx1> what does that mean
[12:32] <Seveas> Chrisx1, apt-get install flex bison build-essential
[12:32] <Chrisx1> thanks
[12:32] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, It is very odd that they aren't.
[12:32] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, They do here.
[12:33] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Is it correctly updating the resolv.conf file?
[12:33] <elkbuntu> Seveas, shall i make a post on forum or something?
[12:33] <skunk_eyed> basically, my router sends its ip address as dns, then routes all dns traffic to the servers it get from my isp
[12:33] <Seveas> elkbuntu, just poke janimo in #xubuntu
[12:33] <elkbuntu> okies
[12:33] <skunk_eyed> works in windows, nto in ubuntu. also worked in my old system
[12:34] <nm> skunk_eyed: can't you just place your NAT router's IP address in your /etc/resolv.conf
[12:34] <skunk_eyed> Arafangion yes it is
[12:34] <nm> that should work fine
[12:34] <elkbuntu> hmmm, Seveas, he aint there :P
[12:34] <skunk_eyed> it's in there
[12:34] <Arafangion> skunk_eyed, Then it should be working.
[12:35] <skunk_eyed> yes, that is what i thought should happen
[12:35] <Seveas> elkbuntu, so then you wait for him to show up
[12:35] <elkbuntu> Seveas, what are his usual hours, do you know?
[12:35] <Shadowpillar> is it too late to suggest packages for dapper?
[12:36] <Seveas> Shadowpillar, yes
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> damn
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> I was gonna suggest the Xorg Genius Wizardpen driver
[12:36] <Shadowpillar> is it in dapper?
[12:37] <Seveas> !find xorg-driver-input dapper
[12:37] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[12:37] <kent> Seveas: how do you write that smiley?
[12:37] <Seveas> kent like this:
[12:37] <Toma-> its japanese
[12:37] <skunk_eyed> this is annoying
[12:37] <elkbuntu> he also has a retarded fuzzy circle...
[12:37] <Seveas> elkbuntu, no i ditched that one
[12:37] <elkbuntu> yay
[12:38] <Toma-> :
[12:38] <Seveas> Toma-, dude, go to a medic, your upper lip is busted...
[12:38] <Toma-> _
[12:38] <Toma-> hehe
[12:38] <elkbuntu> it could be hare-lip seveas ;)
[12:38] <Toma-> its a long nose
[12:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.
[12:39] <Toma-> :-
[12:40] <Seveas> Shadowline, it's not in dapper
[12:40] <steve60> could anyone point me in the directions of a help guide to enlightenment 6 I,E, desktop resolution icons etc...etc...
[12:40] <Toma-> steve60, you mean, 16.6?
[12:41] <steve60> Toma-, yeah
[12:41] <Toma-> you want to make your own theme?
[12:42] <nm> why use SSL for connections to the wiki?
[12:42] <nm> waste of bandwidth, really..
[12:42] <mahangu|study> anyone know how i can make it so thunderbird doesnt dl attachments?
[12:43] <krz> i need to download codecs for my vedeos. what codecs do i need?
[12:43] <inga> hi
[12:43] <sambagirl> chao
[12:43] <sambagirl> what is a proxy server?
[12:43] <steve60> win32 codecs
[12:43] <steve60> !w32codecs
[12:43] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:43] <steve60> krz, type sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:43] <steve60> in the terminal
[12:43] <Arafangion> sambagirl, Do you know what a server is?
[12:44] <brenner> steve60: they ain't in the official repos
[12:44] <sambagirl> ofcourse someone who serves
[12:44] <dfhfd> Hello
[12:44] <Arafangion> sambagirl, Good, now consult your dictionary and see what "proxy" means :)
[12:44] <brenner> ha
[12:44] <dfhfd> I have weird problem:
[12:44] <krz> steve60 does that include codecs like xvid, divx, etc?
[12:44] <dfhfd> My keyboard don't resporting in KDE.
[12:44] <dfhfd> What can I do?
[12:45] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, you've checked connections, tried another keyboard etc etc?
[12:45] <dfhfd> I have leptop. It's prety problem check connection etc.
[12:45] <steve60> krz, i presume so
[12:45] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, model etc etc
[12:45] <inga> i have a breezy updated from hoary and getting errors while apt-get is generating locales which leaves some packages unconfigured. including ubuntu minimal and ubuntu-base
[12:46] <steve60> krz, i know it has the useuall WMV AVI etc etc...
[12:46] <dfhfd> How can I check the model?
[12:46] <elkbuntu> dfhfd, of the laptop... usually it'll have it written on it
[12:46] <dfhfd> My laptop is compaq Evo N160
[12:46] <MuLLeR> hehe me back .. grub load .. WXP not .. :)
[12:46] <_diogo> greetings!
[12:47] <brenner> MuLLeR: any errors?
[12:47] <_diogo> trivia: where do the release names for ubuntu come from? are they just completely original?
[12:47] <MuLLeR> brenner: says unknown partition type .. and shows some symbols ... and hangs
[12:49] <_diogo> nobody knows that?
[12:49] <MuLLeR> brenner: but ubuntu loaded k now ... Ubuntu is on a PATA drive XP on a SATA ... grub in MBR of PATA
[12:49] <brenner> MuLLeR: my guess is grub isn't set up correctly.  what was your original problem?  i missed it.
[12:49] <omerlh> I was dfgh whatever.
[12:49] <MuLLeR> brenner: the original problem was the XP doesn't want to load ..
[12:50] <MuLLeR> brenner: i used lilo
[12:50] <inga> is there a german speaking ubuntu-channel?
[12:50] <_diogo> inga: is there a SPEAKING ubuntu channel?!?!
[12:50] <inga> because my aptget output is partially german
[12:50] <bimberi> !de
[12:50] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[12:50] <inga> thx ubotu
[12:51] <brenner> MuLLeR: why didn't xp load?
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh, i have no idea, i cant seem to find any other instances of problems quite like non-functional keyboard
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh closest i've found is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67546&highlight=compaq+evo+keyboard
[12:52] <elkbuntu> omerlh, where only some things didnt work
[12:52] <MuLLeR> brenner: dunno .. it just hanged
[12:52] <omerlh> My friend said all did was tipe "info".
[12:52] <sambagirl> what is secure tunnel?
[12:52] <ablomen> REGISTER ab0893
[12:52] <MuLLeR> brenner: the bootstrap process
[12:53] <ablomen> lol oops
[12:53] <omerlh> I can't type anything anywhere. Not even konsol.
[12:53] <sambagirl> check your keyboard cable
[12:53] <sambagirl> then if not still pull power plug and then put back
[12:53] <omerlh> I have laptop, it prety hard.
[12:54] <elkbuntu> hmm i wonder if it needs a modprobe... seveas, have you any idea what the modprobe command for a laptop keyboard would be?
[12:54] <brenner> omerlh: does it work in gnome?
[12:54] <omerlh> Yeah, that's the weirdest thing.
[12:55] <omerlh> Only in KDE the problem exict.
[12:55] <elkbuntu> brenner, it wouldnt be xorg related in some way would it?
[12:56] <brenner> sambagirl: we're not dictionaries.  maybe try something like wikipedia
[12:57] <brenner> elkbuntu: dunno.  i would've thought kde would use the same xorg settings as gnome
[12:57] <elkbuntu> brenner, i'm thinking some sort of conflict though
[12:57] <elkbuntu> brenner, something kde is doing that gnome isnt
[12:57] <sambagirl> well Seveas is, i just asked a question to have simple explanation not research for thesis.
[12:57] <elkbuntu> sambagirl, seveas is what?
[12:58] <Shadowpillar> !find xorg-driver-input dapper
[12:58] <omerlh> What it is?
[12:58] <brenner> elkbuntu: a dictionary apparently. :)
[12:58] <elkbuntu> brenner, one word.. rofl
[12:58] <thegladiator> is it possible for me resize the icons of my desktop ?
[12:58] <thegladiator> using gconf editor or something ?
[12:59] <Shadowpillar> Seveas: lame, because it'd be nice to have a supported driver for my tablet, I compiled my own, and it's stable as hell
[12:59] <ablomen> thegladiator, just do right-click resize
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'xorg-driver-input' returned no results.
[12:59] <thegladiator> ablomen: I have to do that for each one :( i was looking for a standard size to size verything to some value
[12:59] <omerlh> I search in google, nothing usefull.
[01:00] <ablomen> thegladiator, maybe in a config file in the .gnome2 folder or something
[01:00] <moggio_> where is the kernel source in ubuntu?
[01:00] <thegladiator> yes I a looking for some cnfiguration editing in gconf editor or something
[01:01] <MuLLeR> here's my grub conf ... maybe i missedup somewhere ... why XP doesn't boot?
[01:01] <MuLLeR> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/D6ASCi31.html
[01:01] <omerlh> I tried work with gnome, but battery status don't work there. Why?
[01:02] <thegladiator> what about arranging icons other than "keep aligned" ? is it possible to horzontally align all the icons ?
[01:03] <thegladiator> or vertically align for that matter
[01:03] <thegladiator> ?
[01:05] <brenner> MuLLeR: looks OK to me.  something to check: is the windows partition bootable?
[01:05] <MuLLeR> brenner: yes .. it's setuped as active ..
[01:06] <brenner> so it has the boot flag on?
[01:06] <MuLLeR> brenner: yes
[01:07] <brenner> MuLLeR: time to hit the forum.  use that unkown partition error as your search string
[01:07] <mwillis> Hey guys.  Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[01:08] <elkbuntu> mwillis, that's entirely a matter of opinion
[01:08] <mwillis> hehe I see
[01:08] <omerlh> There is anything to configure for battery status?
[01:08] <omerlh> under gnome.
[01:09] <Zerobyte> how do I install tcl?
[01:09] <MuLLeR> k thanx for the help
[01:09] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[01:09] <brenner> mwillis: nice try :)
[01:10] <mwillis> brenner: haha, I'm really curious!
[01:10] <omerlh> I have to go. GOOD BAY.
[01:10] <brenner> suuure
[01:10] <elkbuntu> mwillis, your only way of knowing if YOU prefer it is to download it and try it. the livecd will give you a fair indication :)
[01:10] <peej> morphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try?
[01:10] <bimberi> !debian
[01:10] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[01:10] <mwillis> brenner, no, really!
[01:11] <MrFreeBird> hi there. How can I create a script to automate ftp?
[01:11] <mwillis> hehe
[01:11] <mjr> MrFreeBird, by using expect
[01:11] <morphix> peej morphix : did you take a look in the F2-5?6?7? menus for kernel options to try? << eh??
[01:11] <MrFreeBird> I wanna do many things, and I dont want to type ftp commands every time
[01:11] <peej> MrFreeBird: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/346
[01:12] <mjr> MrFreeBird, or rather, use lftp -f script_file
[01:12] <mjr> on yeah, basic ftp was scriptable too
[01:12] <mjr> always forget that
[01:13] <brenner> Zerobyte: aren't tcl files just scripts?  iirc, tcl support is provided with all *nix systems by default
[01:13] <peej> morphix: during install you can press f2 f3 f4 etc rather than going for default boot option. Maybe the hints in the other pages will help.
[01:14] <morphix> hmm.
[01:14] <NET||abuse> hmm, how do enable dapper repo's from breezy?
[01:14] <sittisal> why in dapper's gdm lots of icons are missing?
[01:14] <NET||abuse> i'm working on getting glx and compviz working
[01:14] <NET||abuse> Xgl even.
[01:14] <Seveas> !xgl
[01:14] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:15] <NET||abuse> thanks Seveas
[01:16] <mwillis> Are ubuntu advances feeding back into Debian, too?
[01:17] <elkbuntu> ubuntu advances feed into the whole Open Source community, mwillis, that's how Open Source works :)
[01:20] <kent> How come in Dapper the logout dialog is diffrent if I use the logout-applet compared to the System->Log out?  It seems a bit strange..
[01:20] <NET||abuse> does this mean i'll have to re-install completely my laptop with dapper, i'm on breezy now? is there an upgrade path to follow that will allow Xgl to work?
[01:20] <mandavi> someone knows why my ipw2200 does not reconnect after the wireless connection was temprorarily disconnected - i can't even reconnect with the build-in network configuration tool
[01:21] <volvoguy> quick question, as I have zero AMD experience. i have a hand-me-down "AMD Athlon, CPU Family=6, Model=2, 700Mhz". is the 686 the best kernel for this machine or the k7?
[01:21] <Toma-> k7
[01:21] <Toma-> no,
[01:21] <Toma-> k6
[01:21] <volvoguy> there is no k6.
[01:21] <Toma-> oh rly...
[01:21] <peej> kent: it's supposedly more ergonomic
[01:21] <farous> mandavi: i do not knwo why it does that but restarting the router always helped here
[01:22] <Toma-> volvoguy, to be honest, kernel optimizations are barely noticable...
[01:22] <Toma-> id go the 686
[01:22] <kent> peej: is it ergonomic with two diffrent dialogs for the same thing? I have no objects regarding the applet for logging out, just that the dialog looks diffrent..
[01:22] <volvoguy> Toma-: that was my guess too. thx for the confirmation. :)
[01:22] <mandavi> farous: i restarted the whole machine till now - how do i restart the router?
[01:23] <farous> mandavi: where are you running the machine.
[01:23] <mandavi> farous: at my window...? what do you mean?
[01:23] <brenner> i thought the 686 kernel was geared more towards intel machines ... the linux-k7 package specifically targets athlon/durons.  wouldn't that be better?
[01:23] <farous> mandavi: or in other word do you use a home based wireless network like me
[01:23] <mandavi> farous: yes, homebased
[01:24] <farous> farous: do you use wireless router at home. if so unplug the router and plugit again
[01:24] <mateon> for k6 you have to go with 386, sorry
[01:24] <Toma-> brenner, the optimizations do bugger all in real world times
[01:24] <mandavi> it is a not encrypted free wireless lan
[01:24] <mandavi> farous: it is a not encrypted free wireless lan
[01:24] <brenner> Toma-: i know.  i tried out 686 on a p4 and didn't notice any gains
[01:24] <farous> mandavi: does not matter i found that most of the time it is the wireless router prob
[01:25] <Toma-> *nod*
[01:25] <brenner> Toma-: i'm just wondering why go for the 686 if the k7 targets amds ... at least in the descr.
[01:26] <Toma-> *shrug*. k7 might have conflicting calls with the older k6
[01:26] <pappan> is pdf reader available in breezy in the installation cd ?
[01:26] <farous> mandavi: and if i were you i would take some security measure you do not want unauth person to log in your private lan
[01:26] <mateon> Toma-: and 686
[01:26] <farous> pappan: yap evince
[01:26] <Toma-> 686 supports really old stuff
[01:26] <pappan> farous: ty seems like i have missed it
[01:27] <farous> pappan: no problem
[01:27] <pappan> i guess i have to install thru aptitude and select not-installed packages
[01:27] <mandavi> farous: it is an open city-lan, not my private
[01:28] <farous> oh ok mandavi sorry misunderstood you
[01:28] <omerlh> Hello again
[01:28] <mateon> Toma-: 686 is pentium pro and up, I suppose you could run 586 on a k6
[01:28] <brenner> Toma-: ah, so mostly for the safety of coverage?
[01:28] <farous> mandavi: have you tried ifup and ifdown
[01:28] <omerlh> I have ywo problems:
[01:28] <mandavi> farous: no, not yet
[01:28] <omerlh> First, my keboard don't resporting in KDE. I have laptop.
[01:28] <mandavi> farous: what else do you do to restart the router for the wlan?
[01:28] <farous> what is your wireless device name mandavi
[01:28] <mandavi> eth1
[01:29] <farous> ok sudo ifdown eth1 && sudo ifup eth1
[01:29] <omerlh> Second, in gnome, I can't know what my battery status.
[01:29] <mandavi> farous: alright, thank you, will try at the next disconnect....
[01:29] <farous> mandavi: having casual disconnection is normal my friend you will get it a lot
[01:30] <Xamusk> hello
[01:30] <Xamusk> the network-manager applet is highly unstable here
[01:30] <mandavi> farous: it is actually not all that many times, sometimes it runs properly for two, three days
[01:30] <Xamusk> I have to kill it all the time
[01:31] <farous> mandavi: that is exceptional for me ? my router at home is really bad that i am using the ethernet cable. gave up on wirless
[01:32] <Xamusk> i.e. I had to set the wep key manually with iwconfig and now I'm connected, the applet shows that it's still waiting for a key
[01:32] <mandavi> farous: move to berlin - free city-lan at some parts of the city - and with some privacy tool fair anough
[01:32] <farous> mandavi: your mayour is a great man :)
[01:33] <mandavi> farous: city major?
[01:33] <mandavi> farous: or the new female cancellor?
[01:33] <thegladiator> tkae the major chat to #ubuntu-major channel :-) jk
[01:34] <farous> oh mandavi you are not reg
[01:34] <farous> ok this is a support channel so chatting is not liked here perhaps ubuntu-offtopic is better room
[01:34] <thegladiator> cancellor ? chancellor :)
[01:35] <farous> sorry firend tried to send it to you as private message but failed
[01:35] <mandavi> thegladiator: chancellor....
[01:35] <thegladiator> yeah mandavi
[01:36] <mandavi> farous: it worked, just haven't seen it
[01:36] <thegladiator> i'd like to see your dektops , anyone has screenshots ?
[01:36] <farous> :)
[01:36] <brenner> thegladiator: http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7475/screenshot7dw.png
[01:37] <farous> thegladiator: mine is modest not that shinney
[01:37] <brenner> obviously i like black. :)
[01:37] <elkbuntu> thegladiator also, i dare say there would be threads about desktop setups in the forum, maybe search there too :)
[01:37] <thegladiator> thanks I like to see though
[01:37] <thegladiator> elkbuntu: yeah I shall never new that :)
[01:38] <elkbuntu> thegladiator, do you know the forums url?
[01:38] <Xamusk> brenner: whoa... nice desktop
[01:38] <thegladiator> brenner: dud I kinda like , obvious you are someone to watch out for  :)
[01:38] <thegladiator> elkbuntu: yep
[01:38] <brenner> Xamusk: thank the theme creator...his hard work, not mine
[01:38] <thegladiator> brenner: mind telling the theme names ?
[01:39] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[01:39] <Xamusk> brenner: yeah, but I haven't seen nothing like it before
[01:40] <brenner> thegladiator: gtk and gkrellm theme: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=24409 ... the desktop was from deviantart i think
[01:40] <farous> thegladiator: go to ubuntuforums.org/gallery
[01:40] <thegladiator> thanks I shall give a try
[01:40] <NoWhereMan> I don't know what after I installed rox-filer in xfce I've lost my desktop image and can't left click to have the menu... what should I do?
[01:41] <paolob> Hi guys! Where is the .history file in ubuntu? man history says it's ~/.history, but I don't see it
[01:41] <elkbuntu> paolob, did you enable viewing hidden files?
[01:41] <paolob> elkbuntu, yes
[01:41] <farous> NoWhereMan: because nautilus took care of that and you replaced it with rox-filer
[01:41] <brenner> paolob: .bash_history
[01:42] <brenner> maybe?
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> farous, huh, now I've removed rox-filer
[01:42] <derek[] > Hi
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> farous, what have i to do, then?
[01:42] <derek[] > How do I install PCF fonts?
[01:42] <elkbuntu> NoWhereMan, maybe try reinstalling nautilus?
[01:42] <farous> NoWhereMan: youdo not need ro remvoe rox-filler just in a terminal type nautilus
[01:42] <xored> i need to restore some deleted files. I deleted them yesterday an immediately mounted the drive readonly, so nothing is overwritten. Are there better tools then e2undel ( its ext2) to unerase files ?a
[01:42] <elkbuntu> or that
[01:43] <paolob> brenner, thank you!
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> good it worked
[01:43] <farous> NoWhereMan: you can have them both installed
[01:43] <sivang> hi all
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> farous, it worked, then I'll reinstall nautilus
[01:44] <farous> NoWhereMan: if it worked than it is already installed :)
[01:44] <NoWhereMan> farous, lol
[01:44] <derek[] > Are PCF fonts installed in a different way from that of TTF ones?
[01:44] <NoWhereMan> farous, then if I logout and in it should stay there?
[01:44] <sivang> I have a weird problem with my desktop events sounds, is tehre anyway to enable them?
[01:45] <sivang> sound is working okay,
[01:46] <sivang> and media files have their sound working, including login sound. I'm missing the ubuntu sound theme music at login,
[01:46] <sivang> as well as gaim sounds
[01:46] <sivang> anybody have an idea?
[01:46] <sivang> maybe it's a metacity problem that it needs to knwo to allow those sounds to work?
[01:46] <thegladiator> brenner: hwo do I install the industrial engine ?
[01:46] <[olli] > hey, is there a way to export address book and/or calender data from evolution? (ubuntu 5.10)
[01:46] <sivang> pitti: maybe you have an idea?
[01:46] <twb> So breezy and dapper equate to Debian's sarge and etch respectively?
[01:47] <franke> need help with virtual hosts in lan!! they work from the outside, but not from the inside of the lan
[01:47] <NoWhereMan> farous, erm... I meant to have back the xfce left click menu, not the gnome one... sorry I wasn't clear
[01:47] <BockBilbo> hey
[01:47] <twb> thegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial gtk-engines-industrial
[01:47] <farous> am nor running xfce never liked it so sorry do not know
[01:47] <wie> why its change to
[01:48] <wie> aptitude
[01:48] <wie> ?:\
[01:48] <thegladiator> thanks aptitude ?
[01:48] <thegladiator> apt-get ?
[01:48] <twb> wie: what?
[01:48] <thegladiator> lol
[01:48] <NoWhereMan> farous, than you anyway
[01:48] <gnomefreak> thegladiator: either way is fine
[01:48] <thegladiator> ah
[01:48] <thegladiator> thanks
[01:48] <farous> uw:)
[01:48] <[olli] > seems to me there is no export data from evolution
[01:49] <BockBilbo> im using dapper and i have mysql-server-5.0 installed on it.  It seens that even though the mysql process is running, no program can iniziate any mysql socket to be connected to sql server... it only works if i reinstall the server... but after rebooting, everything starts working bad again. Any idea of how to fix this?
[01:49] <Ng> [olli] : what do you want to export it to?
[01:49] <[olli] > Ng: csv text file at least
[01:49] <morphix> on my motherboard i have a Promise Technology Fasttrak IDE/SATA RAID controller.. when i have it enabled i cant even install ubuntu and if i turn it on after install has done.. it kernel panics. i googled and found that its not fully supported under ubuntu default.. something about having to compile a kernel module for it or something... anyone have a clue?? as without it enabled i am 3 hdds loss :(
[01:49] <BockBilbo> i get this: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:50] <Ng> [olli] : it stores data in fairly standard formats already - like mail is just mboxes, calendar is a .ics, etc.
[01:51] <Ng> the contacts isn't so standard though i spose
[01:51] <gnomefreak> BockBilbo: 13 as in error 13 premissions denied?
[01:51] <BockBilbo> gnomefreak, dont think so..
[01:51] <[olli] > Ng: isn't the addressbook.db a binary file?
[01:51] <NoWhereMan[away] > farous xfdesktop in the terminal did it :)
[01:51] <Ng> yeah, it's a berkely db
[01:51] <BockBilbo> using mysql-client from command line i get: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)
[01:51] <farous> NoWhereMan[away] : cool
[01:52] <[olli] > Ng: do you know any program which does the export automatically?
[01:52] <BockBilbo> gnomefreak, its the error no 2002: cant connect to local mysql server through socket
[01:53] <BockBilbo> oh.. i see..
[01:53] <Ng> [olli] : I can't think of any PIMs that export data
[01:53] <mateon> BockBilbo: well does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist?
[01:54] <[olli] > Ng: okay. thanks.
[01:54] <BockBilbo> mateon, i was about to check that and also see its permissions
[01:55] <BockBilbo> bing
[01:55] <BockBilbo> bingo
[01:55] <BockBilbo> it exists, but it doesnt have right to the average user
[01:56] <twinoatl> hi
[01:56] <zug> hi
[01:56] <twinoatl> I got problems with daily generated isos
[01:56] <twinoatl> can I write bug reports ? Where ? In the launchpad ?
[01:57] <BockBilbo> ive changed the permissions... but dont know if this solution will be kept after rebooting
[01:57] <BockBilbo> brb
[01:57] <brenner> twinoatl: apps > sys tools > bug report
[01:59] <shanonx> Hey guys got an install question, when I try to install Ubuntu, it tells me it cannot find my network adapter, which is build onboard my MotherBoard... what must I do so that it can recognize it?
[01:59] <[olli] > Ng: do you know why i can't find evolution-addressbook-export in ubuntu?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> shanonx: do you know what make/model the nic card is?
[02:02] <shanonx> just a sec i can tell you
[02:03] <shanonx> gnomefreak: Its an Intel 82573V
[02:03] <gnomefreak> ok give me a sec
[02:04] <shanonx> sure thing
[02:04] <morphix> :(
[02:04] <gnomefreak> im assuming the w means wireless?
[02:05] <shanonx> no its a V not a W :)
[02:05] <shanonx> its not a wireless card.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:08] <gnomefreak> shanonx: when installing does it let you continue the install without detecting the nic?
[02:08] <shanonx> gnomefreak: It gave me the option to, but I didn'
[02:08] <shanonx> didn't try it... I will try that first and see if I can get it working
[02:09] <thegladiator> can someone please repeat that command to install the industrial engine ?
[02:09] <thegladiator> i did a copy paste but not working
[02:09] <thegladiator>  am using iirc atm
[02:09] <neosc> guys.. the sweet guys a t ubuntu sent me the latest version of their cds (5.10).. i have 5.04 currently installed.. it it woth the upgrade to reinstall the whole thing??
[02:09] <neosc> is it worth*
[02:10] <gnomefreak> shanonx: next time continue get it installed you might just have to activate the nic. i only see 3 intel cards here im not sure what your chipset is here ill give you the link incase you find the chipset
[02:10] <thegladiator> is there anyone who can scroll back and tell me what the command was to instal gtk industrial engine ?
[02:10] <damian_> how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$
[02:10] <_JuDgEn_> hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?
[02:10] <_jason> thegladiator: thegladiator: aptitude install gtk2-engines-industrial
[02:10] <gnomefreak> shanonx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards
[02:10] <IdleOne> neosc:  I think it it is
[02:10] <thegladiator> thanks jason
[02:10] <neosc> yes.?? what are the new things?
[02:10] <BockBilbo> im back
[02:10] <shanonx> gnomefreak: ok, thanks for your help!
[02:10] <BockBilbo> :S
[02:10] <motionblur> hi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...
[02:11] <damian_>   /usr/local/lib/jack
[02:11] <damian_>  is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think
[02:11] <gnomefreak> there was also a gtk-engines-industrial
[02:11] <_JuDgEn_> hi, how do i alter the screen resolution of x from console?
[02:11] <brenner> _JuDgEn_: let me guess, you want more screen space in terminal mode
[02:12] <_JuDgEn_> brenner nah
[02:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _JuDgEn_ about fixres
[02:12] <thegladiator> so what command for the whole thing ? gnomefreak
[02:12] <neosc> ideleone.. guys.. is ti worth the upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10??? what r the new features?
[02:12] <_JuDgEn_> x wont start unless i reconfigure
[02:12] <gnomefreak> neosc: yes its worth the upgrade
[02:12] <damian_> how do i link to files i used to know i dont fuly understand now something to do with path$
[02:12] <damian_>   /usr/local/lib/jack
[02:12] <damian_>  is what i need my programs to find corrently there looking in /usr/lib i think
[02:13] <damian_> !path
[02:13] <ubotu> damian_: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:13] <damian_> !path$
[02:13] <ubotu> damian_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:13] <neosc> gnomefreak :the new features??
[02:13] <sivang> Seveas: do you have any idea maybe about my sounds problem?
[02:13] <motionblur> hi people, I need some help installing a geforce 2 GTS under ubuntu... I've followed this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but it doesn't work...
[02:13] <_jason> damian_: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <gnomefreak> neosc: packages.ubuntu.com  for a complete list of packages
[02:14] <neosc> ah.. thanks
[02:15] <gnomefreak> neosc: a big feature is that 5.04 will not be supported with updates ina  few months
[02:15] <damian_> basically i need lmms and muse to find my newest version of jack whitch is in /usr/local/lib/jack.  Updated http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#offtopic (the policy page section on offtopic activity on freenode) just to make the wording more emphatically clear.... changed "...antisocial behavior, including..." to "...antisocial behavior, including (but not limited to)..."
[02:16] !lilo:*! (this is not a substantive policy change, just highlighting the existing wording)
[02:16] <_jason> damian_: did you install these things with the package manager or are they not available?
[02:17] <damian_> should the newest version of jack 0.100.0 be available?
[02:17] <damian_> i couldnt find it and so installed it from source
[02:18] <_jason> damian_: so what did you do? make install?
[02:18] <damian_> configure, make, make install
[02:18] <damian_> normal
[02:18] <damian_> and everything wont fine
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell damian_ about checkinstall
[02:19] <gnomefreak> i have jack in repos not sure what version tho
[02:19] <_jason> damian_: in the future, checkinstall will make your life easier
[02:19] <_jason> damian_: for your problem you should just be able to make symlinks, just don't overwrite anything that is managed by the package manager
[02:21] <bonez> hey .. just wanted to know is there a special repository with kernel sources .. i have multiverse en universe open but cant apt kernel-source 2.6.12-10
[02:21] <port7> anyone any idea why i am getting a timeout when i try to recv-key for Sevas' repository?
[02:21] <port7> but i can get other keys fine from the same key server
[02:21] <_Felix> hello
[02:21] <gnomefreak> kernel sources are in the src repos arnt they?
[02:22] <thegladiator> brenner, i installed gothic blue theme , my desktop doesnt have the black color , I tried a restart also...oddly I cant see my cursr also when I type into xchat
[02:22] <damian_> symlinks thats it sorry ahvent used linux for 2 years how do i do that
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ln -s
[02:22] <damian_> set path$= something like that yeah
[02:22] <_jason> damian_: ln -s destination name
[02:22] <brenner> thegladiator: how'd you install it?
[02:22] <j_element> any one familiar with ddos packets here ?
[02:23] <damian_> destination is the file ro the directory?
[02:23] <thegladiator> opened theme manager , pasted it and it installed
[02:23] <thegladiator> it was a controls theme
[02:23] <farous> thegladiator: check this theme finally was able to upload it not as gothic or dark as you wana though http://www.ubuntuforums.org/gallery/showimage.php?i=1979&catid=newimages
[02:23] <bonez> gnomefreak, i have -> deb-src http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates universe multiverse
[02:23] <bonez>  in my sources.list
[02:23] <_jason> damian_: actually, why is the old version still there?  do you need it?
[02:24] <thegladiator> yep farous
[02:24] <thegladiator> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8775
[02:24] <brenner> thegladiator: correct....what's wrong exactly?
[02:24] <thegladiator> just see the screen shot
[02:24] <damian_> im not sure going to keepp it there probably for dependencies why isnt the other version available?
[02:25] <stjepan> hello
[02:25] <thegladiator> good one farous
[02:25] <stjepan> whats ubuntu's kde dir? (in slackware it is /opt/kde)
[02:25] <thegladiator> brenner, in that screenshot I nothing is black eerything is white
[02:25] <_Felix> Stjepande
[02:25] <_Felix> hrvat?
[02:26] <damian_> no when i try to uninstall it wants to remove mplayer xmms and others
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> stjepan: where is it installed? Kubuntu might be able to tell you, fraid i don't know
[02:26] <brenner> thegladiator: weird
[02:27] <thegladiator> yeah really weird
[02:27] <brenner> thegladiator: if you switch control themes, does it change?
[02:27] <skenmy> Hi All :) I'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?
[02:27] <_jason> damian_: well then I'd look at the specific programs, muse I think you said, and see how you can tell them  to go straight for the other libs.  You're gonna have a weird setup
[02:27] <farous> i hate copyinf from eterm :(((((
[02:27] <thegladiator> I had theme prolems ever since I installed few theme from art manager!
[02:27] <thegladiator> ever sinc some themes doesnt seem to have effect  or so i feel
[02:27] <thegladiator> it does change
[02:28] <brenner> so you've had problems  iwth other themes too?
[02:28] <thegladiator> like when I chose dark red theme it becomes dark
[02:28] <thegladiator> i am not sure
[02:28] <thegladiator> i felt that themes changed colors more than they used after I did a few things with art manager by installing few things
[02:29] <thegladiator> less i.e
[02:29] <thegladiator> each theme makes some change but not the desired effect . few themes have this problem
[02:29] <thegladiator> all this after I installed art managr and installed few Application themes
[02:29] <brenner> so you had problems before gothic and blue?
[02:29] <thegladiator> like H20 , industrial
[02:29] <brenner> i.e. it wasn't my fault? :-/
[02:29] <bonez> anyone have a idea in what repo the kernelsources are???
[02:30] <thegladiator> I dont know really :>
[02:30] <damian_> nah thanks that fixed my problem
[02:30] <thegladiator> this seems to prove that
[02:30] <brenner> i've never used art mgr, so i can't really help you there
[02:30] <gnomefreak> bonez: you may have to enable the src repos
[02:30] <thegladiator> ok np :)
[02:30] <bonez> to my knowledge the are enabled
[02:30] <damian_> i will delete the ones i installed and upgrade once there available
[02:30] <thegladiator> i think some stupid problem that I may never figure out
[02:30] <skenmy> Anyone? It's starting to annoy me :P
[02:30] <bonez> i find a few kernel sources .. uptil 2.6.11
[02:30] <brenner> thegladiator: try clicking on the human theme, and then going through details and selecting gothic
[02:30] <bonez> put i need 2.6.12
[02:30] <bonez> but*
[02:30] <brenner> thegladiator: that's what i'm using
[02:31] <pepsi> i have linux-source-2.6.12 in my listing
[02:31] <bonez> hmm
[02:31] <thegladiator> let me see that
[02:31] <thegladiator> nah same thing actually
[02:31] <brenner> no change?
[02:32] <thegladiator> no change
[02:32] <thegladiator> just the same sort of effect
[02:32] <thegladiator> I think I botched up something actually somewhere
[02:32] <brenner> well i don't know to be honest.
[02:32] <bonez> pepsi, hey  you are correct . i did a apt-cache search for kernel-source.. not linux source .. (thats what happens if you follow a tutorial to the teeth)
[02:32] <thegladiator> its okay
[02:32] <thegladiator> maybe in my next install
[02:32] <pepsi> hrm
[02:32] <brenner> thegladiator: post a forum topic on it maybe
[02:33] <thegladiator> yesI shall do that
[02:33] <pepsi> interesting they changed the name
[02:34] <pepsi> but as i remember it was annoying having to look for "linux-" and "kernel-"
[02:34] <skenmy> Could anyone possibly help with my problem?
[02:34] <pepsi> so now its all under linux-
[02:34] <Xamusk> bonez: the package names changed since 2.6.something
[02:34] <bonez> aah ok .. well its good to know that
[02:34] <bonez> guess its since 2.6.11
[02:35] <IdleOne> skenmy:  what's the problem
[02:35] <skenmy> Hi IdleOne
[02:35] <skenmy> I'm having a lot of trouble copying data from a DVD to my home directory. It hangs for about 5 minutes on random files, then gives an I/O Error and asks to Skip, Cancel, or Retry. The files are not always the same. Any ideas on how I can get this data onto my HDD?
[02:35] <ardchoille> How do I install the KDE desktop environment in Ubuntu? Is there a single meta package that pulls in everything else?
[02:35] <skenmy> If it makes any difference, it is a DVD-RW
[02:35] <pepsi> kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <skenmy> ardchoille, check out kubuntu
[02:36] <IdleOne> ardchoille: sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <colm> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <ardchoille> skenmy, IdleOne: thank you.
[02:36] <ardchoille> :)
[02:36] <farous> ardchoille: better sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <IdleOne> skenmy:  sorry dude I dont know what would cause that
[02:37] <farous> ardchoille: so if you do not like it you can use the same command to remove it by sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[02:37] <wdh> skenmy, I/O errors are not good..  i guess you should check the DVD-RW for errors..
[02:37] <ardchoille> farous: cool, that does make it much easier
[02:37] <farous> :)
[02:37] <colm> farous, is aptitude purge better that apt-get remove?
[02:38] <farous> colm: for meta packages with apt-get remove you need to remove each dependent package by hand
[02:38] <Xamusk> colm: aptitude purge == apt-get remove --purge
[02:38] <farous> colm: aptitude take care of that automatically
[02:38] <colm> cool, didn't know that.  he won't remove it anyway!  but it's good to know hx
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi...i need info about a package release...
[02:38] <farous> colm: so aptitude will remove the packages and the automatically installed dependencies if not used by other packages
[02:39] <farous> colm: :)
[02:39] <wdh> farous, apt-get remove does that also.. the 'purge' part just removes all the configuration files as well
[02:39] <farous> wdh:  not automatically installed depnedent packages
[02:40] <farous> wdh try them both
[02:40] <wdh> farous, you are right.. i misread what you typed :)
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  there are a command in apt to show packages that must be updated?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> like synaptic or aptitude does...
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> i mean..in command-line...
[02:40] <skenmy> wdh -> what confuses me is that I can access the data on the DVD-RW
[02:40] <skenmy> just cant copy it off
[02:40] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, "sudo apt-get upgrade -s"
[02:40] <colm> folks, short of dapper dist-upgrade, what's the easiest way to get the latest (i.e. including CYMK support) version of Krita installed on Breezy?
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice... 8)
[02:41] <steve60> anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?
[02:41] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, where 's' stands for 'simulate'
[02:41] <farous> Aragorn_Guardian: i mainly use aptitude so sorry do not know check this site though about deb package management http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need info about the porstgres ckage of ubuntu...
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> :(
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  ok...
[02:41] <vdrab> hello #ubuntu. A quick question: can I have ubuntu in different languages per user, on the same system? how would I set this up?
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  thanks... is that!
[02:42] <farous> you will fnd it quite helpfull :)
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> farous:  yeah...i like it...the tools are amazing...
[02:42] <farous> and it sums it all up :)
[02:42] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am doing a shell script with that info...
[02:43] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, "apt-cache show postgresql"  will give you some info :)
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  i need know why it is not upgraded... :(...is getting too old...
[02:44] <Crazy|One> hi all
[02:44] <_Felix> hi crazy one
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  postgres in ubuntu is in 7.4.7...is beeing unusefull.....stable versionb from postgres is 8.1
[02:44] <steve60> anyone know of an application that will stream live tv like winamp for windows?
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  need know why and what can I do...
[02:45] <colm> vdrab, System Menu > Language Selector
[02:45] <Crazy|One> I have Windows XP Pro, and installed Ubuntu as a virtual machine on vmware. the vm bridge networking dont seem to work as I cant access the net with ubuntu, any ideas what could be up?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> steve60: xmms i think
[02:45] <Xamusk> steve60: vls should do it
[02:45] <steve60> gnomefreak, i got streamtuner is there an app like this but for tv though
[02:46] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, ubuntu releases a new version every six months.. after a release it doesnt take any non-securityrelated updates.. so new versions of packages go into the next version of ubuntu..
[02:46] <vdrab> col: yes, I have all the necessary languages installed, but it seems changing the default is system-wide... I want user X to have language A and user Y to have language B
[02:46] <gnomefreak> tv i dont know about :(
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  I am with ubuntu 5.04 here
[02:46] <IdleOne> colm:  user language is kept in the user profile right? so i would think that each user could have is own language setup :/ but Im not sure
[02:46] <farous> wdh just to add unless it is ported in the backports project :)
[02:46] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, there seems to be a postgresql-8.0 package though :)
[02:46] <wdh> so install that
[02:47] <Crazy|One> anybody?
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice... 8)....gonna see
[02:47] <sks> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu 5.10. I wish to change the host name of my computer. I did a "hostname <myhostname>" as well as I made an entry in /etc/network/interfaces. I also verified that the GUI System->Admin-> Networking show the host name correctly. I have rebooted my computer. But the netowrk does not detect the new name. It detects the old name. What have I missed ?
[02:47] <colm> vdrab, I've not actually tried this, but the languge _should_ be a user selection.  What is going wrong?
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh: what sources can i safelly put here in synaptic to get those packages, more recents
[02:47] <Aragorn_Guardian> in sources.list
[02:47] <vdrab> colm: I probably don't know where to look.
[02:48] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, none.. just use main, universe and multiverse..
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Aragorn_Guardian about easysource
[02:48] <steve60> how do i install a .run file
[02:48] <vdrab> keep running into admin permission troubles, I don't want to make the new user a su, but can't seem to change the language otherwise...
[02:48] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, is there a specific reason why you prefer 8.1 over 8.0.3?
[02:48] <colm> vdrab - just tested it.  It works ok on Breezy w/ Gnome.  Second user logged in set to french.  This user = english.  Login Screen/new users = english
[02:48] <gnomefreak> steve60: sh file.run
[02:49] <steve60> gnomefreak, thx
[02:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> yes...things in postgres...:/ new relases...maybe 8.0 will be nice...
[02:49] <vdrab> colm: oh really.. ? : /  where do you set language for *this* user?
[02:49] <Crazy|One> can somebody tell me what I should check to see why my ubuntu os cannot access the net pls
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> i have 7.4 here... 8.0 may works...gonna read about
[02:49] <steve60> im just downloading ID's free FPS game
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> well...nice...
[02:49] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  thanks by help
[02:49] <colm> vdrab, System Menu > Language Selector
[02:50] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, just install 8.0 :) you probably wont miss a thing..
[02:50] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  in true....most recents versions are a great adventure...but i really prefer that the comunity make alll tests needed before install in a production machine...
[02:51] <vdrab> colm: I have english and japanese installed there, but I can't see where to assign which language to which user
[02:51] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, just installing a new version because it's 'new', is a good way to get your system unstable :)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  yes...i think will be nice.. 8)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  yeah...i know...hehehehe
[02:51] <vdrab> it only says "languages available to people on this system"
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> thats why i dont compile nothing more..hehehehe
[02:51] <wdh> Aragorn_Guardian, it'll probably be included into ubuntu 6.04 once it's released (april)
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> niiiiiice
[02:51] <Aragorn_Guardian> !!!!
[02:51] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:52] <adub> im trying to get airsnort to log to a file does anyone have any recommendations on this like when i save a file or log to a file i open it back up it has no data??
[02:52] <vdrab> colm: so, I want to keep the default english, but then where does the japanese go?
[02:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> new release...i really forgot...hehehehe
[02:52] <Aragorn_Guardian> this release cicle is amazing...hehehehe
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> wdh:  well...thanks again...gonna read about...thanks a lot!
[02:53] <gnomefreak> dapper will have version 8.1
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> gnomefreak:  nice...
[02:54] <mzuverink> can someone recommend a good samba howto for ubuntu?
[02:54] <IdleOne> !samba
[02:54] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:55] <mzuverink> Tahnks
[02:55] <IdleOne> np
[02:56] <bonez> question .. is it possible to have reiser and ext3 on a system i currently have a full ext3 setup but i am going to build a lvm on raid and i heard that reiser is better for suck a setup (online resizing)
[02:56] <bonez> such*
[02:57] <petr> how to install single font seperately?
[02:57] <wdh> bonez, is it.. i think the spellingerror you made was actually right :P reiser can be quite good to suck up a system when resizing..
[02:57] <ccooke> bonez: I'd advise against using reiserfs unless you have regular backups. It's a very fast filesystem, but it's *much* more likely to develop corruption and the recovery tools are poor.
[02:57] <ccooke> It's *excellent* for a cheap news filesystem, though.
[02:57] <wdh> bonez, but yes.. you can use as many filesystems as you wish..
[02:58] <petr> installing a single font help
[02:58] <jasonr_> ubotu: tell petr about fonts
[02:58] <bonez> hmm so the overall consensus is no reiser ..
[02:58] <vdrab> colm: well, thanks for trying.
[02:59] <ccooke> bonez: See if it meets your needs first. I'd just advise against trusting it for, say, root or important files.
[02:59] <ccooke> again, if you have backups of everything...
[02:59] <petr> jasonr:
[02:59] <petr> i know but its confusing
[02:59] <jasonr_> petr: what kind of font is it
[02:59] <elkbuntu> bonez, they're just slapping a nice big "handle with care" sticker on it for you ;)
[02:59] <petr> i wana instal 1 font
[03:00] <petr> jasonr: ttf file
[03:00] <ccooke> bonez: (For instance, I just lost a week of my time recovering a reiserfs filesystem for work - ended up having to move an 800 gig filesystem image to a different computer, compile later reiserfs tools and then wait three days for the fsck to finish)
[03:00] <jbroome> ouch
[03:01] <bonez> root is on ext3 (the raid setup is a TB raid 5 ) .. i red somewhere that reiser as a filesystem also uses less space (?)
[03:01] <bonez> hmm
[03:01] <bonez> ok.......
[03:01] <tane_> someone have
[03:01] <petr> jasonr_:
[03:01] <ccooke> bonez: it uses less space for some workloads.
[03:01] <bonez> well ccooke that got me sold ..ext3 it is .. then i'll just have to umount the fs to resize with lvm
[03:02] <tane_> someone have probles when install ubuntu over windows xp and it takes about 2minutes to grub start
[03:02] <petr> jasonr_: its a .ttf file true type font
[03:02] <jasonr_> petr: just put it in ~/.fonts then
[03:02] <elkbuntu> tane_, what do you mean? you have xp and ubuntu dual booting, and grub takes 2 minutes to time out and send you to your last booted system?
[03:03] <adub> im trying to save capture session in libpcap format how would i do this??
[03:04] <M_A_K> I have a wifi router at home and work.  How do I tell ubuntu (using kde) to use whichever connection is available? I currently have to go into the networking settings and change it manually.
[03:04] <tane_> elkbuntu: ye...when i poweron and it says GRUB...it takes about 2 minutes until choise of OS:s come on screen
[03:05] <elkbuntu> tane so, for grub to even show up?
[03:05] <tane_> i have heart that some of debian users have same problems
[03:05] <petr> jasonr_:
[03:05] <tane_> elkbuntu: ehe...haha....i fixed it
[03:06] <tane_> haha
[03:06] <damian_> what does this mean
[03:06] <petr> how to know i have installed it or not corectly?
[03:06] <damian_> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[03:06] <elkbuntu> tane_, i'm inclined to suggest to you to make a post on the......forum... how?
[03:06] <elkbuntu> tane_, how did you fix it
[03:06] <gnomefreak> is codeweaver the "free" version of dreamweaver?
[03:06] <jasonr_> petr: open a program and try to use it I guess
[03:06] <tane_> hmmh...im not sure....i partitioned manually and then it works
[03:06] <gnomefreak> damian_: did you install g++?
[03:06] <tane_> meaby thats the reason
[03:06] <jasonr_> damian_: it means you need to install build-essential package
[03:06] <damian_> yes
[03:06] <tane_> first i used automatic partition for free space
[03:07] <damian_> oh
[03:07] <damian_> thats rihgt
[03:07] <elkbuntu> tane_,  some things are best done manually ;)
[03:07] <petr> jasonr_: is ther a way to find which are the installed fonts in my system?
[03:07] <tane_> i know...but i just tried automatic partition and showd up that sucks :D
[03:08] <iBalo> especially when the SILLY ubuntu auto-partitioner drops in ... >:-)
[03:08] <tane_> elkbuntu: have u used ubuntu long ?
[03:08] <elkbuntu> hmm... about 8 months
[03:08] <damian_> anyone here used lmms
[03:08] <tane_> i just installed it yeasterday...before i used debian
[03:09] <jasonr_> petr: press ctrl+l in nautilus and type 'fonts:///'
[03:09] <elkbuntu> i've never used pure debian. is it much different?
[03:09] <aldren> hi all, anyone knows a fast oficial repository? :)
[03:10] <tane_> elkbuntu: hmmmh...installation is much more complicated and you have to take time to configure all systems to work
[03:10] <iBalo> Is there a quick fix for the frequently hanging gnome-splash in Breezy? It's not a lockup, goes away when one clicks on it, but it's annoying
[03:10] <tane_> ubuntu is cool choise for beginners too
[03:10] <bonez> ccooke,  you seem to know your filesystems... JFS how does that one compare to the rest?
[03:10] <elkbuntu> tane_, that i agree with wholly.. it's a very good newbie system
[03:10] <damian_>  Invalid configuration `with-vst': machine `with' not recognized
[03:10] <damian_> this meant it dosent recognise the with-vst option yeah
[03:11] <tane_> elkbuntu: ye i think so too...second best i think is SuSe
[03:11] <elkbuntu> tane_, btw which were you saying was more complicated? ubuntu or pure debian
[03:11] <petr> jasonr_: where is natilus. me hearing it for the first time.
[03:11] <damian_> thats a ./configure error
[03:11] <jasonr_> petr: it is the file namager
[03:11] <tane_> elkbuntu: debian is for pro users
[03:11] <tane_> u have to to everything yourself
[03:11] <gnomefreak> damian_:  is it -with or --with?
[03:11] <petr> jasonr_: ok
[03:11] <gnomefreak> most of the ones i did were --with
[03:11] <damian_> apparrently -with ill try tho
[03:12] <gnomefreak> damian_: ./configure --help might help
[03:12] <ccooke> bonez: it's fast, reputed to be good for large files...
[03:12] <elkbuntu> tane_, ah ok
[03:12] <elkbuntu> well peeps, i'm off to bed, cyas
[03:12] <ccooke> bonez: I've not personally used, it though. I believe it's not as mature *in linux* as, say, xfs
[03:13] <damian_> hecking build system type... Invalid configuration `-help': machine `' not recognized
[03:13] <damian_> configure: error: /bin/sh ./config.sub -help failed
[03:13] <M_A_K> Can anybody help a newbie figure out wireless networking problem?
[03:13] <petr> jasonr_: system >> preference >> file management . is this one u call natilus?
[03:13] <ccooke> bonez: oh! if you're using ext3, two things that you might find useful:
[03:14] <jasonr_> petr: applications menu > accessories > file browser
[03:14] <damian_> it says here but it errors
[03:14] <damian_> = If you want VST-support within LMMS, please pass
[03:14] <damian_>  =
[03:14] <damian_>  = --with-vst
[03:14] <ccooke> bonez: first, mounting use user_xattr (check mount(8) for how)
[03:15] <bonez> ccooke, average file size is around a gig  (just so ya know )
[03:15] <gnomefreak> damian_: and your typing ./configure --with-vst?
[03:15] <damian_> yes
[03:15] <damian_> never mind i fixed it
[03:15] <ideafix> are the kubuntu and ubuntu reps difrente ?
[03:15] <ccooke> bonez: second, dir_index - 'sudo tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/hda1' would turn on directory indexing, which will speed up access in directories with lots of files (assuming your filesystem is /dev/hda1, of course)
[03:15] <gnomefreak> ideafix: not really
[03:15] <damian_> they misspelt it
[03:15] <ccooke> bonez: right. JFS sounds like a definite option, then
[03:16] <ideafix> what do you mean not really ?
[03:16] <ccooke> bonez: I've heard no more horror stories about it than I've heard for XFS, which I've used a bit.
[03:16] <ideafix> no really you mean they are
[03:16] <gnomefreak> ideafix: same repos iirc but kubuntu does have a 3.5 repo for either ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:16] <ccooke> bonez: but it *is* explicitly designed to be good for big files.
[03:16] <ideafix> iirc ?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> iirc=if i remember correctly
[03:17] <petr> jasonr_: found the .fonts .but there my font is not there. wat 2 do?
[03:17] <bonez> ccooke, yea i have a few 100 m's and pictures here and there ..
[03:17] <ccooke> bonez: right.
[03:17] <ideafix> will ubunti become more like debian in the way you can distupgrade to the newest version ?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> ideafix: the packages are the same for ubuntu and kubuntu so the repos should be same
[03:17] <damian_> hmm cool i have vst's working in linux
[03:18] <jasonr_> petr: you have to copy your font to /home/username/.fonts
[03:18] <ccooke> ideafix: what do you mean 'become' ?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: you can dist-upgrade
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: ubuntu and debian commands are same
[03:18] <ideafix> it wont break ?
[03:18] <ccooke> ideafix: well, as with debian, it'll depend what you dist-upgrade to.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ideafix: if you dist-upgrading to dapper you can count on it breaking
[03:18] <petr> jasonr_: can i copy just like copying in windows (drag and drop)?
[03:18] <bonez> ccooke, pff ..  let me ask you this way what would you use.. cus after making this disition i dont see myself finding a spare TB to change my fs to something else
[03:18] <jasonr_> petr: yes
[03:18] <ccooke> I would not, for instance, upgrade to dapper.
[03:19] <ccooke> bonez: hmm. To be honest, I trust ext3. It's very, very stable on linux.
[03:19] <ideafix> will this thing gona be looked into in the future ?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ideafix: what thing you can apt-get dist-upgrade all you want now
[03:19] <ccooke> bonez: Take a look at mke2fs(8)
[03:20] <ccooke> bonez: there are options to tailor it to large or small files.
[03:20] <gnomefreak> i just wouldnt upgrade to dapper
[03:20] <ideafix> ive just been told it will break
[03:20] <petr> jasonr_: "Error not a directory"
[03:20] <IdleOne> ideafix:  you need to be more specific. what do you think will break?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ideafix: dapper will break but if you are going from hoary to breezy you should be fine
[03:20] <MrZeroo00> hi
[03:21] <ccooke> ideafix: dapper isn't ready yet. Some work will be done on it to make dist-upgrade work when it's near release.
[03:21] <ideafix> so i can go from hoary to breezy and from breezy to dapper ?
[03:21] <ccooke> No.
[03:21] <ideafix> so dapper is still beta?
[03:21] <IdleOne> yes
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ideafix: yes you can but dont run dapper yet
[03:21] <ccooke> wwdapper isn't even beta, yet.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> alpha
[03:21] <ideafix> ok
[03:21] <Madpilot> ideafix: Dapper is still in development, it's not due for release for another 2 months
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> ive heard way too many 'upgrade' problems. :P i will just reinstall.. keeping my /home onits own hard drive.
[03:21] <ccooke> it's not actually gone to the preview release.
[03:21] <gnomefreak> dapper is gonna be beta end of marchish
[03:22] <IdleOne> alpha/pre-beta hehe
[03:22] <ccooke> Dr_Willis: I have two 'root' partitions here for almost-risk-free upgrading :-)
[03:22] <ideafix> A comes before B
[03:22] <ccooke> and a new home partition.
[03:22] <jasonr_> petr: make a directory in /home/username and call it '.fonts'
[03:22] <gnomefreak> alpha=greek for beginning :)
[03:23] <ideafix> in english biggining starts with b :)
[03:23] <IdleOne> beta + Greek For low maintenace fish :P
[03:23] <IdleOne> + should be =
[03:23] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:23] <ideafix> low maintenace fish ?
[03:23] <IdleOne> hahaha just a joke
[03:23] <gnomefreak> ideafix: if you want a stable system dont run dapper stick with breezy
[03:24] <ideafix> could you explaint that joke ?
[03:24] <IdleOne> beta is also a name for a type of fish
[03:24] <IdleOne> and they are very easy to take care of
[03:24] <kerrian> why am I tempted, now that I'm back into using Linux, to start learning Java programming...
[03:24] <IdleOne> you can forget to feed them for days and they dont die
[03:24] <gnomefreak> i love them :) they love to fight :)
[03:24] <petr> jasonr_:  mkdir .fonts
[03:24] <petr> mkdir: `.fonts' exists but is not a directory
[03:25] <BockBilbo> anyone here uses the network manager tool?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> mkdir ~/.fonts?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> Beta - the fish that dies.. and you dont realize it for a week...- because they were so sluggish anyway...
[03:25] <jasonr_> petr: rm ~/.fonts && mkdir ~/.fonts
[03:25] <IdleOne> gnomefreak:  they are predators by nature but then again all beautiful things are e.g women
[03:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:26] <dempa> i got some advanced xorg.conf qustions, got a Nvidia 5700 vit 1xVGA, 1xDVI & 1xsvideo on it, got two crt monitors connected to the VGA & DVI connectors and seperate X sessions on each, now i want a third on the tv connected on the svideo port, is this even possible?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrrr
[03:26] <petr> jasonr_: ok done
[03:26] <ideafix> are cows predators ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ideafix: yes to grass
[03:26] <IdleOne> lmfao
[03:27] <alejandro_> hi
[03:27] <IdleOne> are cows beautiful?
[03:27] <jasonr_> petr: okay, now just copy it in there
[03:27] <ideafix> yes
[03:27] <kerrian> for futurereference, I loce my PSP
[03:27] <kerrian> love
[03:27] <kerrian> play station portable, by the way
[03:27] <petr> jasonr_: ok
[03:27] <alejandro_> i need help please
[03:27] <ideafix> arent coes beutifull ?
[03:27] <ideafix> cows
[03:27] <IdleOne> I guess if you like cows yeah they are
[03:27] <kerrian> I am cow, hear me mo, i weight twice as much as you, and I look good on the barbeque
[03:28] <ideafix> they are prettyer then pigs :)
[03:28] <IdleOne> they make good milk and steaks so i like them for that
[03:28] <kerrian> yougurt, milk, cream cheese and butter comes from liquid out my udders, I am cow, I am cow, he me MOO-O
[03:28] <alejandro_> anibody speak spanish?
[03:28] <IdleOne> !es
[03:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:28] <IdleOne> alli alejandro
[03:28] <gnomefreak> alejandro_: /join #ubuntu-es
[03:29] <SLSneak> I need some sort of multiplayer notepad for ubuntu...
[03:29] <cyblivious> has anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?
[03:29] <kerrian> I am cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass, and out my muzzle when I belch!
[03:29] <alejandro_> hola
[03:29] <lemsx1> !xgl
[03:29] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:29] <gnomefreak> i hate dependencies :(
[03:29] <IdleOne> kerrian:  you have spent alot of time thinking about cows huh
[03:29] <kerrian> Oh the ozone layer's thinner for the outcome of my dinner, I am cow, I am cow, I've got GAS-s
[03:29] <ideafix> lol IdleOne
[03:29] <_mindspin> kerrian are you from wisconsin?
[03:29] <kerrian> I am cow, her I stand, far and wide across this land, and I am living everywhere
[03:29] <IdleOne> _mindspin:  lmao
[03:30] <tgah> anybody has got a personal site to showcase? I would like to build a personal site and i don't know how to start?
[03:30] <kerrian> from BC to Newfoundland, you can squeeze my tits by and, I am cow, I am cow, I AM COW-W
[03:30] <alejandro_> gnome freak
[03:30] <IdleOne> !html
[03:30] <kerrian> nope
[03:30] <alejandro_> me puedes ayudar
[03:30] <ideafix> claro qaue si
[03:30] <gnomefreak> huh?
[03:30] <alejandro_> es la 1a vez ke uso linux
[03:30] <kerrian> thats a song me and a bunch of my friends made up one night wandering home piss loaded drunk from the bars
[03:30] <ideafix> presopuesto que si
[03:30] <gnomefreak> this is english speaking room :(
[03:30] <cyblivious> has anyone installed xserver 7 in ubuntu breezy?
[03:31] <alejandro_> haw can i get in a spanish room
[03:31] <IdleOne> alejandro:  vas por #ubuntu-es usas /join #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <Madpilot> !es
[03:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:31] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: im thinking not to advisable to do that
[03:31] <kerrian> strange
[03:31] <gnomefreak> alejandro_: type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:31] <cyblivious> why?
[03:31] <kerrian> my clock is wrong
[03:31] <kerrian> its saying it's 7:30 am
[03:31] <gnomefreak> cyblivious: is it in the repos?
[03:31] <kerrian> when its actualy 11 am
[03:32] <IdleOne> kerrian:  perhaps it moved and didnt tell you lol
[03:32] <ccooke> kerrian: you made up that song?
[03:32] <cyblivious> not sure. just read about xserver 7 in its website and i like it's features
[03:32] <ideafix> thats de beuty of linux
[03:32] <kerrian> or I'm stuck in a time warp
[03:32] <ideafix> you never know what to expect next :)