[12:15] <newlinuxguy> but my tone isn't complaining
[12:15] <ns_> newlinuxguy: sounds like the problems I had with my olde cdr drive .... replacing it helped a lot
[12:15] <newlinuxguy> but in the mean time
[12:15] <newlinuxguy> is there a way I can get kubuntu installed over a network or something?
[12:16] <newlinuxguy> I'm burning the cd's from a brand new burner
[12:16] <newlinuxguy> and I went with the minimal cd
[12:16] <newlinuxguy> install
[12:16] <newlinuxguy> so I'd download the packages as I needed them
[12:16] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, use the alternative CD
[12:16] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, what is your hardware?
[12:17] <surgy> i need a peice of software to convert an iso to a bin any suggestions?
[12:17] <newlinuxguy> 1 ghz i386, 512 megs of ram, 80 gig part'd 12 root, 2 gig swap, rest /home
[12:17] <newlinuxguy> ati radeon vid card
[12:17] <newlinuxguy> with dual monitors
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> integrated sound
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> 1 dvd player
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> 1 cd burner
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:18] <bobleny> Hey, is there a program on linux that can simulate electrical circuits?
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> this works great for the "core" install
[12:18] <newlinuxguy> but I'm hanging when I install KDE/Lamp
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> sigh
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, try the alternative CD, it uses a text installer
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> I'm not giving up
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> okie doke
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> that's 7 cds now
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> lol!
[12:19] <newlinuxguy> good things come to those who wait!
[12:19] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, 7 cd's ?
[12:19] <fdoving> bobleny: klogic, ksimus, ktechlab
[12:19] <bobleny> If they don't die waiting
[12:19] <blindside> lol
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> yeah, 7 cds
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> wait
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> sorry
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> 3 with the 700 meg iso
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> and 2 with this minimal
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> I have a ton
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> so I can be wasteful
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> now I'm about to burn another making 6
[12:20] <newlinuxguy> that's what I was saying
[12:21] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, ok burn the alternative, check that md5sum is correct, I think it also has a self test, make sure that the CD is good before you try to install
[12:22] <newlinuxguy> k gatekeeper
[12:22] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, this hdd got windows on it?
[12:23] <bobleny> fdoving, where did you find those?
[12:24] <fdoving> bobleny: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:24] <larson9999> sometimes even if the cds are good, they won't boot on certain machines.
[12:24] <TheGateKeeper> newlinuxguy, ignore last question
[12:25] <kgx> does anyone know if there is a setting in cdr mysql that allows me to write database entries quicker?
[12:26] <bobleny> oh....
[12:27] <bobbyshafter> hey have a problem on my wife pc .I am running daper she edgy. We both have 2 cdroms,when i insert a audio cd in any of my drives i am able to see the content on the disc.my wife pc show the cd is a audio but i cant see the content in konqueror.I then look at the properties for the cdrom,under permissions nothing is selected how can i change this
[12:35] <andreasw> so silent ;)
[12:36] <Octarion> Hi!
[12:36] <Octarion> I have a question: How can I configure vga=0x317 in Grub ?? :S
[12:37] <BluesKaj> are tgz similar to tar.gz ?
[12:38] <Octarion> BluesKaj: yes
[12:38] <BluesKaj> i can use the tar -xvjf cmnd  ?
[12:38] <newlinuxguy> is the gatekeeper here?
[12:38] <Dr_willis> tgz = tar.gz
[12:38] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[12:38] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[12:39] <BluesKaj> ok , thx
[12:39] <Octarion> BluesKaj: to make a tgz use tar -xvzf output_file_name
[12:39] <Octarion> BluesKaj: sorry!!!!
[12:40] <Octarion> BluesKaj: tar -cvzf output_file
[12:40] <Octarion> BluesKaj: uncompress = tar -xvzf compressed_file
[12:40] <Octarion> :)
[12:40] <Octarion> BluesKaj: and don't forget the .tgz extension ;)
[12:40] <BluesKaj> ok Octarion
[12:40] <BluesKaj> thx'
[12:41] <newlinuxguy> I did the minimal cd install this time around without selecting Kubutu or Ubuntu desktop so it says that I just have the "basic" system installed
[12:41] <Octarion> BluesKaj: Pleased
[12:41] <newlinuxguy> hopefully it doesn't hang at 90%
[12:41] <newlinuxguy> this is as far as I've been
[12:41] <newlinuxguy> sigh
[12:42] <newlinuxguy> I think it defaulted to ubuntu/Gnome when I didn't select Kubuntu
[12:43] <newlinuxguy> I hear Kubuntu is noob friendly so hopefully I'll be able to uninstall gnome/ubuntu and install kubuntu
[12:44] <Dr_willis> theres no point in Uninstalling Gnome/Ubuntu
[12:44] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: I prefer KDE to GNOME... it's just a preference ;) but I think KDE has easiest utilities than GNOME, but I dont like GNOME too... ;)
[12:44] <Dr_willis> just install 'kubuntu-desktop'  inless you are Really tight on space.
[12:44] <newlinuxguy> I'm not
[12:44] <newlinuxguy> actually it looks like I didnt install gnome
[12:44] <Dr_willis> You may want to try the 'alternative' intall cd's if the live cds are giving you problems.
[12:45] <newlinuxguy> because I've got a console login
[12:45] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[12:45] <Dr_willis> if you did a true minimal/server type install - then you may not even have X.
[12:45] <newlinuxguy> i dont
[12:45] <Dr_willis> You may want to redo the install. :)
[12:45] <newlinuxguy> I'll have to probably ftp to us.XXxxxx and get it
[12:45] <Dr_willis> you can use apt-get to install the other stuff.. but that may be a bit of a hassle.
[12:46] <newlinuxguy> yeah
[12:46] <newlinuxguy> they don't script and bundle everything for a noob in console, WHY NOT
[12:46] <newlinuxguy> lol
[12:46] <newlinuxguy> I'm not totally out of my element in console
[12:46] <newlinuxguy> dos is where I got my beginnings
[12:46] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: Maybe it will install kdm when you install KDE...
[12:46] <Dr_willis> either learn... or reboot and redo the isntall.
[12:47] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: the K Desktop Manager, isn't it?...
[12:47] <Dr_willis> 'should' install of kubuntu desktop packages.
[12:47] <newlinuxguy> might as well try
[12:47] <newlinuxguy> I have the alternate downloading
[12:47] <newlinuxguy> I sure appreciate all the help
[12:48] <newlinuxguy> I need to check to see if there is a local lug
[12:48] <BluesKaj> hmm, confused now ..pkg din't unpack
[12:48] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  and what were you doing?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> trying to extract a .tgz file using the CLI
[12:49] <Dr_willis> install unp :)
[12:49] <Dr_willis> unp whatever.tgz
[12:50] <Dr_willis> im lazy.. i admit it..
[12:50] <newlinuxguy> this is probably the longest way to tdo this
[12:50] <newlinuxguy> but if it works before I even rx the alternate txt iso
[12:50] <newlinuxguy> I'll be happy
[12:50] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: Don't you have 'tar' installed?
[12:50] <newlinuxguy> oct
[12:50] <Dr_willis> newlinuxguy,  perhaps.. a new system - may have a lot of updates that will get downloaded as well.. so it could be faster to do it that way.. but id advise installing the stuff from the cd to begin with
[12:51] <newlinuxguy> i'd assume that's part of the "base system"
[12:51] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: then, use tar -xvzf
[12:51] <Dr_willis> actually the - isent needed any more is it.
[12:51] <newlinuxguy> i have already done a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <newlinuxguy> so Im a bit unfamiliar where I'd input that tar command (which is the equivalent of pkunzip for dos, right?)
[12:52] <HymnToLife> newlinuxguy, in the dir where your archive is
[12:53] <Dr_willis> tar is one of many archiver tools.
[12:53] <HymnToLife> or in any other, if you supply the full path to the archive
[12:53] <newlinuxguy> okay, I presume you are saying enter that command once apt-get is done
[12:54] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: But apt-get install download, unpack, installs and configure. Isn't it?
[12:54] <miguel> hay algun canal en espaol?
[12:54] <Octarion> miguel, pues ni idea :P
[12:55] <HymnToLife> !es
[12:55] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:55] <newlinuxguy> octarion, I'm just following your lead, you asked me to input tar -xvzf and I said I couldnt cuz I'm doing apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <newlinuxguy> I didn't quite connect why I need to tar -xvzf
[12:56] <newlinuxguy> <---- my name :)
[12:56] <Dr_willis> newlinuxguy,  im thinking you saw what we told the OTHER guy to do.
[12:56] <Octarion> newlinuxguy: I think I'm miss
[12:56] <newlinuxguy> lol
[12:56] <newlinuxguy> okay
[12:57] <Dr_willis> This is when it pays to learn the fundamentals. :)
[12:57] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[12:57] <newlinuxguy> yes
[12:57] <sleepy745> what does the syntax ~/.file mean?
[12:57] <Dr_willis> home dir. = ~
[12:57] <newlinuxguy> I think I'm going to do some googling to learn these fundamentals
[12:57] <Dr_willis> the .file would be the file name
[12:57] <newlinuxguy> so I'm not such a nuisance
[12:57] <newlinuxguy> I appreciate the help though
[12:57] <Dr_willis> tldp.org - good place to start
[12:57] <Octarion> bye!
[12:57] <HymnToLife> newlinuxguy, tar is the program you use, the x switch means you want to extract the archive, z means its gzipped, v means verbose and f means it's a file (as opposed to a tape)
[12:58] <Dr_willis> cat ~/.file would  =   cat /home/willis/.file   (in my case)
[12:58] <newlinuxguy> thanks hymn
[12:58] <newlinuxguy> one thing I have to say time and again
[12:58] <HymnToLife> man tar could have told you that too :)
[12:58] <newlinuxguy> I've not run across anyone in the community yelling at me for being noob
[12:59] <newlinuxguy> does the man command still apply in console or have they changed that
[12:59] <Dr_willis> newlinuxguy,  we can if you want us to...
[12:59] <newlinuxguy> lol
[12:59] <Dr_willis> try 'man man'
[12:59] <Dr_willis> and see.
[12:59] <newlinuxguy> it'd be okay
[12:59] <newlinuxguy> I'm being lazy by exploiting your benevolence vs. doing my own research
[12:59] <adaptr> you're afriggin n00b for even suggesting that ! :)
[12:59] <newlinuxguy> hehehe
[01:00] <newlinuxguy> yayyy, blank screen and heavy i/o
[01:00] <newlinuxguy> this is further than my comptuer has ever been
[01:00] <newlinuxguy> it's one step closer to security, one giant step away from M$
[01:00] <newlinuxguy> woo hoo
[01:01] <HymnToLife> damn, building KDE sure takes time...
[01:01] <newlinuxguy> oh
[01:01] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[01:01] <newlinuxguy> it's actually compiling it
[01:02] <newlinuxguy> I remember how long that took
[01:02] <adaptr> HymnToLife: *builking* KDE ? used to take around 10 hours on my old Gentoo box, so yeah...
[01:02] <HymnToLife> adaptr, 4 hours counting here
[01:02] <adaptr> HymnToLife: hardware ?
[01:02] <newlinuxguy> why are you building it hymn?
[01:03] <newlinuxguy> ahh
[01:03] <newlinuxguy> hopefully I dont have to recompile when I use apt-get
[01:03] <HymnToLife> adaptr, Centrino 1,8 dual core lappy
[01:03] <HymnToLife> in FBSD
[01:03] <adaptr> newlinuxguy: you won't be compiling....
[01:03] <adaptr> HymnToLife: ah, that should beat my old amd XP 1700+
[01:03] <Rob-West> what r some other good linux distros
[01:04] <Dr_willis> They are all good. :)
[01:04] <HymnToLife> Rob-West, Debian, Gentoo, Slackware
[01:04] <adaptr> HymnToLife: a Dual core *centrino* ? ITYM Core Duo....
[01:04] <Dr_willis> some are gooder at some tasks then others.
[01:04] <HymnToLife> can't think of any other, I haven't tried them all though
[01:04] <Rob-West> is slackware like debian
[01:04] <adaptr> HymnToLife: strictly speaking "centrino" is not even a processor
[01:04] <Dr_willis> slackware is nothing like debian. :) well its very different
[01:04] <adaptr> Rob-West: slackware is *nothing* like Debian
[01:04] <HymnToLife> adaptr, I know, Pentium M if you prefer
[01:04] <Rob-West> i want something Debian based
[01:05] <Dr_willis> thats kubuntu/ubuntu then. :)
[01:05] <Rob-West> or atleast apt-get
[01:05] <adaptr> HymnToLife: okay, and you have a dual-core pentium M ? that would be a Mobile Pentium D , I rather think
[01:06] <Rob-West> can i use a mediacenter linux for a desktop
[01:06] <Rob-West> well a Home Entertainment
[01:06] <Dr_willis> mediacenter linux? huh.. what one you refering to?
[01:06] <HymnToLife> wtf is a "mediacenter linux" ?
[01:06] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  :)
[01:06] <Dr_willis> MythTV/KnoppMyth ?
[01:07] <Rob-West> yea
[01:07] <Prisoner_> hello again
[01:07] <Dr_willis> You could.. but then you hafe to learn how to get around the systems automated features
[01:07] <Dr_willis> got MythTV on my 2nd machine.
[01:08] <Rob-West> i dont have a second PC
[01:08] <Prisoner_> I have 4 PCs
[01:08] <HymnToLife> I have 5, pwn3d :)
[01:08] <newlinuxguy> bah
[01:08] <Prisoner_> a 1.5ghz, a 400mhz, a 200mhz, and a 486/66
[01:09] <Dr_willis> doorstops dont count
[01:09] <newlinuxguy> lol
[01:09] <newlinuxguy> the apt-get locked up too
[01:09] <Prisoner_> they all work
[01:09] <newlinuxguy> I'll just wait for the alt text
[01:09] <newlinuxguy> would have been nice to have this done this weekend
[01:09] <Prisoner_> I'm running Ubuntu on the 400mhz right now
[01:09] <newlinuxguy> I'll see you guys next weekend
[01:09] <Rob-West> i wish i had a second PC
[01:09] <HymnToLife> I'm running Debian on 60 MHz right now :p
[01:10] <newlinuxguy> lol!
[01:10] <newlinuxguy> 60mhz!
[01:10] <newlinuxguy> wow
[01:10] <adaptr> I'd love to run uc on my NCD 66MHz terminal... but I'm not sure I can flash it
[01:10] <Rob-West> im running Ubuntu on a 2.8GHZ P4
[01:10] <Prisoner_> you can get machines like this one for next to nothing these days
[01:10] <newlinuxguy> yeah, rob
[01:10] <newlinuxguy> I have all kinds of parts hanging around
[01:10] <HymnToLife> true
[01:11] <HymnToLife> and they're still fun to play with
[01:11] <Prisoner_> they sure are
[01:11] <Rob-West> i dont have a job
[01:11] <adaptr> I have about 8 machines - but I'm only running 5, so I guess that's a tie
[01:11] <HymnToLife> me neither
[01:11] <Rob-West> im a bum
[01:11] <adaptr> you're all bums !
[01:12] <Prisoner_> I rarely boot up the 486 or the 200 anymore, even though they both work, the 200mhz had Novell on it, the 486/66 has Windows NT Server
[01:12] <dope> where's the autostart folder?
[01:12] <Dr_willis> .kde/Autostart
[01:12] <adaptr> ... or was that "you all *have* bums" ?
[01:12] <newlinuxguy> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/57909216/m/723002003831
[01:12] <Rob-West> if i could get the parts id build the PC
[01:12] <Prisoner_> I have an older HP CD burner in this box but it's showing as an Optorite, is that OK?
[01:13] <newlinuxguy> Rob, where do you live
[01:13] <Rob-West> USA
[01:13] <Rob-West> michigan
[01:13] <newlinuxguy> I used to live in south bend
[01:13] <newlinuxguy> check out that thread
[01:13] <newlinuxguy> there's a freebie section
[01:13] <Rob-West> fuck man PM me
[01:13] <newlinuxguy> and the forum in general has a freebie section
[01:13] <HymnToLife> !language | Rob-West
[01:13] <ubotu> Rob-West: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:13] <Rob-West> sorry
[01:14] <Prisoner_> I live in the deep south, Baton Rouge, Louisiana
[01:15] <MetaBookfoziS> hi all
[01:15] <MetaBookfoziS> i have a problem on kubuntu 6.10
[01:15] <MetaBookfoziS> it isn't recognises my pendrive
[01:15] <MetaBookfoziS> how can i debug that?
[01:15] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy:
[01:15] <MetaBookfoziS> in syslog i see it is doing soemthing but kde is not..
[01:16] <HymnToLife> MetaBookfoziS, after plugging it in, run        ls /dev/sd*
[01:16] <HymnToLife> ans paste what you get
[01:16] <Prisoner_> I'm running Ubuntu on an AMD K6 400 mhz machine, 384MB RAM, ATI Radeon VE 64MB video card, Soundblaster Live soundcard, HP CD burner, Macronix PCI Network card
[01:16] <HymnToLife> and*
[01:17] <MetaBookfoziS> HymnToLife > nothing:/
[01:17] <HymnToLife> sounds bad
[01:17] <MetaBookfoziS> yep
[01:17] <HymnToLife> run   dmesg | tail
[01:17] <Prisoner_> lol
[01:17] <MetaBookfoziS> it is already worked on it about a month ago
[01:17] <HymnToLife> do you see something that seems related to it ?
[01:18] <tanlaan> are there any wifi channels that linux specifically doesnt like?
[01:18] <MetaBookfoziS> HymnToLife > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2351/
[01:19] <newlinuxguy> willis, you were right
[01:19] <E_mE> where is a good document that examples how to configure wireless via the iwconfig command?
[01:19] <newlinuxguy> apt-get freezes at the restarting system log
[01:19] <newlinuxguy> sigh
[01:19] <HymnToLife> E_mE, man iwconfig ?
[01:20] <newlinuxguy> well I'll go ahead and let the alt text d/l
[01:20] <newlinuxguy> and hopefully get time to install this during the week
[01:20] <E_mE> HymnToLife: yes, but that gives me all the options... my knowledge of wireless isnt great so i wouldnt mind a site that ran throw some rthings with me
[01:20] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy:
[01:20] <HymnToLife> E_mE, genrally, you only need to do iwconfig YOUR_IF essid YOUR_ESSID key YOUR_WEP_KEY
[01:20] <E_mE> ah nice :D
[01:20] <E_mE> thanx HymnToLife
[01:20] <newlinuxguy> it got to the point of saying settuping up kubuntu-desktop 1.22 but then it froze when it said restarting system log
[01:21] <HymnToLife> then dhclient YOUR_IF if your router is using DHCP
[01:21] <phobiac> I'm using the flash 9 beta 2 plugin for firefox and almost constantly flash videos will lose sound. Sometimes they keep playing without sound, often times they just stop playing at all.
[01:21] <newlinuxguy> do the alternate text cd installs just do installs in a console like I'm doing now
[01:21] <E_mE> HymnToLife: im just getting sick of using hte wifi tool from KDE... rather it do it in a script :)
[01:21] <MetaBookfoziS> HymnToLife >  any idea?
[01:21] <phobiac> I (think) it's streaming videos that stop playing completely.
[01:21] <HymnToLife> phobiac, Flash 9 is not beta anymore, maybe you should think about upgrading ?
[01:21] <E_mE> HymnToLife: Thanx man :)
[01:22] <phobiac> HymToLife: Aha, I'll try that.
[01:22] <HymnToLife> MetaBookfoziS, do other pendrives work ?
[01:22] <MetaBookfoziS> no
[01:22] <MetaBookfoziS> my phone is the same
[01:23] <newlinuxguy> someone recommended a site to start learning fundamentals on... it was a .org site
[01:24] <newlinuxguy> and it is
[01:24] <newlinuxguy> not in my buffer anymore
[01:24] <E_mE> HymnToLife: Can the YOUR_ESSID be any value you wish?
[01:24] <newlinuxguy> does anyone know what it is?
[01:24] <Rob-West> i need ur help newlinuxguy
[01:25] <newlinuxguy> that's cool man, I'm leaving soon so like I said go ahead and send an e-mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:25] <newlinuxguy> we can possibly arrange something
[01:25] <newlinuxguy> my fundage isnt at a point to where I can swing a whole lot
[01:25] <HymnToLife> E_mE, it obviously needs to be the ESSID of the netwotk you want to connect to
[01:25] <newlinuxguy> but I'll do what I can
[01:26] <newlinuxguy> wow...
[01:26] <newlinuxguy> kubuntu is booting
[01:26] <E_mE> HymnToLife:  Sorry i jsut relised the "essid YOU_ESSID" was one statment hehehe.. stupidity on my part :S
[01:26] <newlinuxguy> I'm not sure I got it all
[01:26] <Rob-West> r u talking to me newlinuxguy
[01:26] <newlinuxguy> because it hung at "restarting at system log"
[01:26] <newlinuxguy> yeah rob
[01:27] <Prisoner_> I was surprised when Ubuntu booted the first time
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> actually
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> it said sound server fatal error
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> lol
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> I've had alot of character building experience today
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> cpu overload
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> aborting
[01:27] <newlinuxguy> lol
[01:27] <MetaBookfoziS> hmm
[01:28] <MetaBookfoziS> as i see, this is a kernel problem
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> but then again
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> I just did
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> an apt-get
[01:28] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy can i PM u
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> rob I'm leaving soon
[01:28] <Rob-West> i know
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> which is why e-mail works best for me
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> okay?
[01:28] <Rob-West> i just wanna ask something
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> go ahead
[01:28] <newlinuxguy> I'll wait
[01:29] <Rob-West> nvm ill email u
[01:30] <newlinuxguy> okay
[01:30] <newlinuxguy> thanks
[01:30] <newlinuxguy> everyone thanks for your help
[01:30] <newlinuxguy> I hope the alternate text iso will work better than these last 2 installs
[01:30] <newlinuxguy> phew
[01:31] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy u can see my on Efner
[01:31] <Rob-West> Efnet
[01:31] <newlinuxguy> okay
[01:33] <Prisoner_> trying to download Ubuntu 6.10
[01:35] <MetaBookfoziS> Pensacola > ubuntu or kubuntu?:)
[01:41] <underdog5004> oh man, I don't know if any of you guys know, but the single FiOp line that services the entire COUNTY (Humboldt) got severed this morning from a structural fire in Mendicino...totally sucked!
[01:42] <Phlosten> underdog5004: bit of a bugger
[01:42] <underdog5004> uh, yeah...
[01:42] <underdog5004> lol
[01:42] <Phlosten> sounds like the farmer years back who ploughed up the main optic fibre link between Melbourne and Sydney
[01:42] <underdog5004> whoa...here we have signs saying "Don't dig"...
[01:43] <Phlosten> well, this would have been on a farm of many acres
[01:43] <underdog5004> I guess fires don't read signs, though...
[01:43] <underdog5004> ah
[01:43] <Phlosten> hehe, yeah
[01:43] <Phlosten> you could imagine the look when he worked out what the hell he had done
[01:43] <underdog5004> Our fiber is buried 3 feet down and runs right next to an interstate...kinda stupid....I think.
[01:44] <underdog5004> although it does keep people from plowing it up!
[01:44] <Phlosten> underdog5004: until there is a big accident and they accidentally carve through it on clean up
[01:45] <underdog5004> seriously!
[01:45] <underdog5004> oh well...there's been talk about adding another line for redundancy...
[01:45] <underdog5004> wish they'd hurry up w/ it though...I wasn't expecting it fixed for a few day!
[01:45] <underdog5004> days*
[01:46] <underdog5004> but it did get fixed...yay
[01:48] <E_mE> does anyone have any good reference to getting iwconfig to get networked
[01:48] <E_mE> ive been messing around with it for abit and not having much luck
[01:49] <underdog5004> E_mE, what card are you using?
[01:49] <E_mE> ipw2200 i tihnk.. ill check
[01:50] <E_mE> Centrino b/g ipw2200
[01:50] <underdog5004> ok...h/p
[01:50] <underdog5004> h/o
[01:50] <underdog5004> uh, isn't Centrino a type of Intel processor?
[01:51] <E_mE> I think its kind of an optimaztion for wifi or somethinf silly
[01:51] <E_mE> some intel rubbish
[01:51] <underdog5004> ok...I"m googlin' now!
[01:51] <underdog5004> E_mE, check out this link, it may help you...        http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[01:51] <E_mE> thanx
[01:51] <underdog5004> np
[01:52] <MetaBookfoziSLP> good night!
[01:52] <E_mE> I mean i can get online with my Wifi, its just i want to be able to configure it via console instead of KDE
[01:53] <underdog5004> E_mE, ah, server install?
[01:53] <E_mE> if that is relavent in anyway
[01:53] <E_mE> well you could see it like that yes
[01:53] <E_mE> but no... i want to be able to boot up and execute a script which checks for wifi
[01:53] <underdog5004> lol, wanna tell me more? Is it you're 1337 haxx0r box?
[01:53] <E_mE> and if exists then connects to my home network
[01:53] <underdog5004> ah, gotcha
[01:54] <link__> is hotmail secure?
[01:54] <E_mE> link__ id consider it pretty secure since SSL is enabled... but then im sure there are methods ;)
[01:55] <underdog5004> link__, uh, it's microsoft.
[01:55] <underdog5004> I would use gmail; more storage, looks nicer, no MS...
[01:55] <link__> ok
[01:55] <underdog5004> Actually, I _do_ use Gmail...lol
[01:56] <E_mE> underdog5004: I completely agree with that opinion
[01:56] <link__> I would, but I don't have a phone for text input
[01:56] <E_mE> underdog5004: shame about the invitation though
[01:56] <Tyler> Hello
[01:56] <link__> hola!
[01:56] <underdog5004> I'd send one...emails?
[01:56] <link__> yeah, on g-mail don't you need a cell phone?
[01:57] <E_mE> join #ipw2100
[01:57] <underdog5004> yep
[01:57] <Moadiv> hi people !!
[01:57] <Tyler> I need a little help if anyone doesn't mind.
[01:57] <underdog5004> !ask | tyle
[01:57] <ubotu> tyle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:57] <underdog5004> !ask | Tyler
[01:57] <E_mE> a cell phone for gmail thats bollox
[01:57] <ubotu> Tyler: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:57] <underdog5004> lol
[01:58] <Tyler> Klol
[01:58] <underdog5004> what's up, Tyler
[01:58] <underdog5004> ?
[01:58] <Tyler> I just got kubuntu
[01:58] <underdog5004> ok
[01:58] <E_mE> link__ you want a gmail account i can set you one up
[01:58] <Tyler> But I can't get the internet to work ):
[01:58] <blekos> hi, i try to remove a package with the "remove" command but i get the msg command not found
[01:58] <blekos> any ideas?
[01:58] <Moadiv> any one using Flash 8 in Wine ??
[01:58] <underdog5004> blekos, sudo apt-get remove program-name
[01:58] <Morbo> blekos- What's the full command you're using?
[01:58] <underdog5004> Moadiv, Adobe recently released Flash Player 9 Final for linux
[01:58] <Morbo> Moadiv- Flash 9
[01:58] <blekos> remove-purge gtkpod-aac
[01:59] <E_mE> link__ you just need another e-mail account where i can send you an invitation to join
[01:59] <Morbo> It's final now?
[01:59] <Morbo> woot.
[01:59] <Moadiv> hi Morbo
[01:59] <underdog5004> Morbo, as far as Iknow
[01:59] <Tyler> I'm using KPPP but it continuously says my modem is busy
[01:59] <underdog5004> blekos, sudo apt-get remove program-name
[01:59] <underdog5004> blekos, or do this           sudo apt-get remove --purge program-name
[01:59] <link__> E_mE: I'd very much like that thanks
[02:00] <underdog5004> Moadiv, http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[02:00] <link__> E_mE: I was trying to set up ICQ.
[02:00] <link__> (as well)
[02:00] <E_mE> link__ whats you e-mail address?
[02:00] <blekos> ok thnx
[02:00] <Moadiv> the macromedia flash 8   not the player
[02:00] <link__><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:01] <E_mE> link__ ok give me 2 minutes
[02:01] <underdog5004> Moadiv, ah...I know that Flash 9 beta2 is out
[02:01] <link__> E_mE: ok
[02:01] <link__> lol
[02:01] <Tyler> Can somebody please help?
[02:01] <link__> Tyler: what do you need help with?
[02:01] <underdog5004> Tyler, what's up?
[02:01] <underdog5004> !ask
[02:01] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:01] <E_mE> link_ check you yahoo mail
[02:01] <link__> ok
[02:02] <Tyler> Okay, so the problem is, The internet say my modem is continously busy
[02:02] <Tyler> Which it isn't
[02:02] <Moadiv> and it works in kubuntu ?
[02:02] <Tyler> (I run a dual boot with windows)
[02:02] <underdog5004> !winmodem
[02:02] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[02:02] <underdog5004> there you go, Tyler
[02:03] <Tyler> Okay I'll heck that out, thanks.
[02:03] <Tyler> *check
[02:03] <underdog5004> np
[02:03] <Moadiv> im runing flash 8 in wine but it crash
[02:03] <underdog5004> If it doesn't work, look for a controller-based modem.
[02:03] <underdog5004> those generally work
[02:03] <Moadiv> creating work space
[02:03] <E_mE> link__: it work okay?
[02:04] <Tyler> The only think weird is no matter what port I try it still messes up
[02:04] <link__> E_mE: I just filled out the form
[02:04] <underdog5004> Moadiv, why bother with Flash 8 in wine?
[02:04] <E_mE> link__: nice...
[02:04] <underdog5004> Tyler, google around, I found some sites that helped me install a modem using wvdial
[02:04] <link__> E_mE: thanks a lot! :)
[02:04] <E_mE> link__: no problem mate.
[02:05] <Moadiv> not the flash player !! the desing application
[02:05] <underdog5004> desing?
[02:05] <underdog5004> oh, the actual flash maker?
[02:05] <underdog5004> my bad, I'm sorry
[02:05] <Moadiv> lol sorry for my ing
[02:05] <underdog5004> ing?
[02:06] <underdog5004> lol, I have no idea what you're talking about
[02:06] <Thehound666> Can someone link me to some info? Been trying to sort through Google. I need rtorrent to run my torrents automaticaly on system startup in case of power failures
[02:06] <Moadiv> english
[02:06] <underdog5004> Thehound666, had the same problem, no help
[02:06] <underdog5004> Thehound666, I looked for WEEKS, nothing
[02:07] <Thehound666> noone who knows more than us? I always figure someone knows more than me
[02:07] <underdog5004> Thehound666, I think it's because it has to route it's display to something, but if you run it on start up, there is no available screen to display on
[02:07] <E_mE> link__: what programming languages do you play with?
[02:07] <underdog5004> I just installed rtorrent on my server, and ssh into it
[02:08] <Thehound666> can you initialise it through ssh?
[02:09] <underdog5004> yep
[02:09] <underdog5004> I do, anyways
[02:09] <underdog5004> but you gotta stay logged on to keep rtorrent running; ie. keep the ssh'ing window open
[02:09] <Thehound666> hook me up with a link lol before I go to school. when I go away I want my seeding to occur from home
[02:09] <Mexandrew> Salutations
[02:10] <Thehound666> I always got a Linux box running, keeping ssh'ed in is no issue
[02:11] <underdog5004> Thehound666, basically, forward port 22 on your router to your server/rtorrent box, then open up a konsole (if on linux) or PuTTY (if on windows) and type ssh username@ipaddress_of_router, then type in rtorrent
[02:11] <underdog5004> you have to know the "outside" ip address of your router though...go to www.whatismyip.com to find it out
[02:11] <Thehound666> ok but how do I setup the login on the server end aka rtorrent client pc?
[02:11] <Thehound666> that's the only part that isn't obvious
[02:12] <underdog5004> Thehound666, h/o
[02:12] <E_mE> link__: Do you do any programming? considering your name is code shifter?
[02:12] <Mexandrew> I just came in to thank #kubuntu, specially Dr_willis and Murchadh for the support I received last time
[02:12] <Mexandrew> I finally have Kubuntu running without GRUB ignoring my Windows XP
[02:12] <underdog5004> Thehound666, sudo apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[02:12] <Thehound666> I should try puttying in from this pc to test it from my windows box
[02:13] <link__> E_mE: I'm learning
[02:13] <underdog5004> you gotta get a ssh server on your server
[02:13] <E_mE> link__: what language?
[02:13] <Mexandrew> Anyway, that was all, I feel I owed this channel a big thank you
[02:13] <Mexandrew> Now, I'll go, I need to figure out how to get identd working on Konversation
[02:13] <link__> E_mE: Thanks to the inter-library loans I can get whatever programming books I want from my local library for free
[02:14] <Thehound666> installed
[02:14] <E_mE> link__: what one are you wish to aim for??  im getting quite into PHP my self
[02:14] <soulrider> anyone here plays true combat elite? im having some trouble with it
[02:14] <link__> E_mE: Well, my native tongue is C++, but I'm taking Java in college and trying to use Python and stuff
[02:14] <underdog5004> Thehound666, cool, now you should be able to ssh into it
[02:14] <Thehound666> no config?
[02:14] <Thehound666> neat
[02:14] <underdog5004> nope
[02:15] <E_mE> link__: im trying to get OOP knowledge in PHP, need to create a Intranet for the company i work for
[02:15] <link__> E_mE: well, I've tried php, but it just did'nt work
[02:15] <Thehound666> I'll try from Wintrash in a few.
[02:15] <Thehound666> thanks for the help
[02:15] <underdog5004> np, remember to pay it forward!
[02:15] <E_mE> link__: I love the C feel to it my self
[02:15] <link__> E_me: hmm... wish I could help you.    I'm the only programmer I know that's seriously interested
[02:17] <E_mE> link__: hehe.... well..
[02:17] <link__> E_me: no the one where you sit in the middle of the floor with a cannon and shoot at the colored balls on the ceiling
[02:18] <E_mE> link__: i just ordered a book on PHP programming pattarns and objects
[02:18] <E_mE> link__: i got all these ideas that i want to sructure into a script/series of events but god my head can't decided the correct route of implementing them
[02:19] <link__> E_mE: sweet.  lol.  I tried making a simple "Hello World" and it would not work.  at all.  the code was coppied ver-batem
[02:19] <Tyler> If somebody will help me with linux I'll help somebody with php lol
[02:19] <link__> E_mE: thinking hurts
[02:19] <E_mE> link__: sounds like PHP wasn't configured properly
[02:19] <link__> lol  cool
[02:19] <Tyler> <?php print "Hello World"; ?>
[02:19] <E_mE> hahahahah
[02:19] <link__> yeah... like everything on my freaking PC
[02:19] <Tyler> If that doesn't work your php's go probs
[02:20] <Tyler> *got
[02:20] <link__> ill try that right now...  brb
[02:20] <E_mE> tyler: id say <? echo "Hello World"; ?>
[02:20] <Tyler> That would work
[02:20] <Tyler> adding php just defines it
[02:20] <E_mE> Tyler: yeah... echo is one letter shorter heheh
[02:21] <E_mE> Tyler: what do you need help with?
[02:21] <underdog5004> E_mE, his modem
[02:21] <Minataku> xscreensaver is what brought me back to Linux
[02:21] <Minataku> lol
[02:21] <underdog5004> Tyler, have you googled around?
[02:21] <Tyler> My linux is really not working good. I can't get it to mount a floppy run a program Ive downloaded or anything
[02:21] <underdog5004> try www.linmodems.org
[02:21] <E_mE> Tyler: what modem is it?
[02:21] <Minataku> I thought it was too difficult to deal with but I started jonesing for xscreensaver
[02:21] <Minataku> lol
[02:22] <Tyler> I've been googling for a few days
[02:22] <Minataku> Keep in mind that I don't even use it anymore now XD
[02:22] <E_mE> Tyler: what happesn when you try to mount a floppy?
[02:22] <Tyler> It goes all crazy and doesn't evne show anything
[02:22] <Tyler> And throws an error
[02:22] <Dr_willis> Now thats specific :)
[02:22] <underdog5004> sounds like an irq problem.
[02:22] <E_mE> Tyler: mounting a floopy generally is quite difficult.. i suggest you mount a hard one =P
[02:23] <Tyler> ?
[02:23] <Tyler> lol
[02:23] <libelular> hello
[02:23] <nate_> is there away i can change the login window in edgy
[02:23] <underdog5004> nate_, yes
[02:23] <E_mE> Tyler: thank you, least ur got it
[02:23] <Dr_willis> theres a great many kdm themes you can mess with.
[02:23] <E_mE> Tyler: you sure you aint got some HW issues?
[02:23] <nate_> when i tried to intsall gdm manager it said it would have issues
[02:24] <Tyler> I dunno what's wrong with it
[02:24] <Dr_willis> why use gdm - kubuntu has kdm,
[02:24] <Tyler> Maybe because I'm running a dual boot?
[02:24] <E_mE> Tyler: do you hjave windows as well??
[02:24] <Tyler> Yeah
[02:24] <Tyler> I'm on a Windows right now
[02:24] <nate_> i dont know of any other login manager things
[02:24] <E_mE> Tyler: is windows perfectly fine?
[02:24] <Tyler> Yes
[02:24] <Tyler> But it's old
[02:24] <underdog5004> nate_, Kmenu => System Settings => Login Manager
[02:24] <E_mE> Tyler: even with Floppies?
[02:24] <Dr_willis> nate_,  kdm, gdm, xdm, wdm :) kubuntu comes with kdm by default. and theres a lot of kdm themes you can get.
[02:24] <link__> um... where do I put "<?php print "Hello World"; ?>"
[02:25] <link__> I'm lost there.
[02:25] <libelular> I am trying to instal nomachine but I get a error about dependence
[02:25] <Tyler> In a .php file
[02:25] <link__> ok
[02:25] <E_mE> link__: do you have a Apache server running?
[02:25] <E_mE> or php-cli?
[02:25] <link__> nope
[02:25] <libelular> could someone help me?
[02:25] <link__> did I need those?
[02:25] <E_mE> well apt-get install apache2
[02:25] <link__> ok
[02:25] <E_mE> apt-get install php5
[02:25] <Dr_willis> !info nomachine
[02:25] <ubotu> Package nomachine does not exist in any distro I know
[02:25] <underdog5004> !ask | libelular
[02:25] <ubotu> libelular: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:25] <E_mE> link__: yes you do...
[02:26] <underdog5004> libelular, what's going on?
[02:26] <libelular> ubotu:  I did!
[02:26] <E_mE> link__: well you can have console mode PHP if u wish too
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I did! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <HymnToLife> !ubotu | libelular
[02:26] <ubotu> libelular: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:26] <Tyler> E_mE: Hmm... Really weird... man
[02:26] <E_mE> Tyler: does windows mount floppies
[02:26] <underdog5004> rofl
[02:26] <E_mE> Tyler: what?
[02:26] <Tyler> Windows works perfect
[02:26] <underdog5004> !nomachine
[02:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nomachine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <libelular> underdog5004:  I tryed to install nomachine and I get an error about dependency
[02:26] <Tyler> With floppies drives everything.
[02:26] <HymnToLife> Tyler, PHP is not _only_ a web language
[02:27] <underdog5004> libelular, Which program are you using to install it?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> you can run PHP scripts from a command-line interpreter, just as well as you can run Python scripts from a web page
[02:27] <E_mE> Tyler: quite suss! have you tried to reinstall Kubuntu?
[02:27] <HymnToLife> hmm, never mind that :p
[02:27] <Tyler> I installed it from a CD
[02:27] <libelular> underdog5004:  the default program (package installer)
[02:27] <Tyler> But what's really weird when it boots up
[02:27] <E_mE> Tyler: what version?
[02:27] <underdog5004> libelular, is nomachine in a .deb file?
[02:28] <Tyler> 6.06.1 LTS
[02:28] <E_mE> Tyler: try Kubuntu 6.10
[02:28] <libelular> underdog5004:  yes
[02:28] <E_mE> see what happens then
[02:28] <terapicodave> how do I set firefox to open when I click a link in kopete?
[02:28] <terapicodave> right now quanta plus starts
[02:28] <Tyler> I would if I could find a CD
[02:28] <underdog5004> hmm, what are the dependencies? use pastebin to show me the error it kicks out...
[02:28] <link__> E_mE: oh yeahl... I installed straight from 6.10  was I supposed to do that or start with an LTS?
[02:28] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[02:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:28] <E_mE> Dr_willis: its true, but you know... don;t diss the oldschool man ;)
[02:29] <E_mE> link__: sorry what do you mean?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> E_mE,  i bought a floppy drive for this box. Just because i needed one for XP to load the SATA drivers for install..
[02:29] <Thehound666> it works mate. I just went in with Putty on my Windows box and did a sudo apt-get update to test it
[02:29] <Thehound666> :)
[02:29] <HymnToLife> [02:28]  * Dr_willis wonders what one even uses a floppy disk for these days <= BIOS upgrades ?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> HymnToLife,  last few machines ive had - can read bios files from.. err.. the bios. :)
[02:29] <underdog5004> HymnToLife, not on intel boards...
[02:29] <E_mE> Dr_willis: that is fecking rediculous :/  can't beleve that XP still relise on Floppy based drivers :/
[02:30] <link__> E_mE: I installed my OS from Kubuntu 6.10  but was I supposed to start out with Ubuntu 6.06 and THEN add it on or what?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> E_mE,  or ya could redo a xp cd and include them.
[02:30] <Tyler> I'm getting ubuntu 6.10 tomarrow I think, it's the same isn't it?
[02:30] <underdog5004> E_mE, the vista installer can access sata drivers (for instance) that are stored on a USB stick...wow, what innovation!
[02:30] <libelular> underdog5004:  ?
 Dr_willis: that is fecking rediculous :/  can't beleve that XP still relise on Floppy based drivers :/
[02:31] <underdog5004> @libelular ^^^
[02:31] <E_mE> Dr_willis: you could yes... but i;ve been impressed very much by IBM server driver CDs... you boot of the IBM CD which goes into a cut down link.. prepares you syustem for windows isntall.. gets you licence code and all the drivers ready for when you put you WinXP CD in ;)
[02:31] <underdog5004> whoa, I stunned everyone into silence...
[02:31] <Tyler> Hopefully Linux'll work soon.
[02:31] <E_mE> Dr_willis: its amazingly slick and nice
[02:31] <terapicodave> does anyone know how kopete decides what application to launch when I click a web link in it?
[02:32] <E_mE> underdog5004: about feking time hehehe thats thinking 20 years into the future i say
[02:32] <libelular> underdog5004:  can you help me?
[02:32] <underdog5004> E_mE, yeah....NOT
[02:32] <underdog5004> libelular, oh, yeah...maybe...h/o
[02:32] <bxnp> guys i have some mayer problem at this moment when i boot into my computer and want to login into kde its not working. when i enter the password i get it tries to login and but then i get the login screen back
[02:32] <E_mE> link__: did your Apache2 iinstall work?
[02:32] <E_mE> underdog5004: your making think of Borat man... stop it!
[02:32] <bxnp> when i then afther that login into the console i get a persmission denied from /dev/null
[02:32] <link__> I have it installed but now I've been trying the command line
[02:33] <bxnp> so i chmod 777 /dev/null and then afterwords i can login
[02:33] <Thehound666> I'm stunned setting up remote access is so easy
[02:33] <E_mE> link__ do you have PHP installed?
[02:33] <Tyler> link_: Get your php working?
[02:33] <link__> idk
[02:33] <Thehound666> even more involved on Windows
[02:33] <underdog5004> E_mE, I like...
[02:33] <link__> lol... yeah, guess I don't know much about this stuff at all.
[02:33] <E_mE> underdog5004: hehehe! pure english humour to the world
[02:34] <underdog5004> bxnp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[02:34] <nate_> im in system settings and i cant see anything about login windows
[02:34] <link__> uh... can I find php?
[02:34] <link__> man -k php...
[02:34] <bxnp> do you think that will do the trick underdog5004
[02:34] <terapicodave> is there a kde configuration editor?
[02:35] <E_mE> link__: apt-get install php5
[02:35] <underdog5004> bxnp, sure hope so...sounds like your xorg.conf file is screwed up
[02:35] <E_mE> link__: or look on you package manager for PHP related items
[02:35] <link__> E_mE: alright
[02:35] <bxnp> could you tell me what you get with ls -l /dev/null underdog5004
[02:35] <Dr_willis> nate_,  you may have to install some package to let ya confogure kdm. I recall doing that a long time ago
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !find kdm
[02:35] <ubotu> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[02:36] <underdog5004> libelular, did you follow the instructions posted here?        http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php
[02:36] <E_mE> link__: if you have installed Apache2 correctly, you should be able to enter http://<IP_ADDRESS> into your webbrowser and see soemting
[02:36] <E_mE> !find php
[02:36] <ubotu> Found: dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo, gphpedit, htcheck-php (and 198 others)
[02:36] <libelular> underdog5004:  yes
[02:36] <E_mE> !find php5
[02:36] <ubotu> Found: php5-clamavlib, php5-imagick, php5-imap, php5-interbase, php5-json (and 29 others)
[02:36] <nate_> i have beryl working will it work with a lighter desktop like  xfce
[02:36] <link__> E_mE: *sigh* I really wish I had that cool 3D look.  I tried compiz from adept, but it just messed up my monitor/desktop settings.  Maybe I should have been trying it from outside the current window manager
[02:36] <underdog5004> bxnp, why? /dev/null is where you system drops stuff...it is oblivion, I believe.
[02:36] <Tyler> php 4 is actually better then php5 btb
[02:36] <Tyler> Less errors.
[02:37] <underdog5004> libelular, please post the error message on pastebin
[02:37] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[02:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:37] <E_mE> Tyler: one word... OOP ;)  ... im all for the OOP
[02:37] <libelular> underdog5004:  dpkg: error processing nxnode (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:37] <libelular> Errors were encountered while processing: nxnode
[02:37] <bxnp> because when then afther i login into the console i get a persmission denied messag afther i logged in from /dev/null when i chmod it to 777 i can logint into kde
[02:37] <Tyler> E_mE: lol
[02:37] <link__> Tyler & EmE_: hmmm...
[02:37] <bxnp> but i want to know what the default settings are
[02:37] <E_mE> link__: whats 3D look got to do with anything?
[02:37] <underdog5004> !find nxnode
[02:37] <ubotu> Package/file nxnode does not exist in edgy
[02:38] <link__> E_mE: I'd like to try it out.  I've never had a 3D desktop.
[02:38] <underdog5004> bxnp, you shouldn't be signing in from /dev/null...you should be signing in from somewhere like /dev/tty1
[02:38] <underdog5004> or something
[02:38] <underdog5004> libelular, <ubotu> Package/file nxnode does not exist in edgy
[02:38] <Tyler> <?php if ($linux == "Doesn't work") $getmad = "true; else $getmad = "false"; ?>
[02:39] <link__> E_mE: doesn't necesarily make my OS better, but I think it looks friggin' cool
[02:39] <libelular> underdog5004:  but I can download from nomachine.com
[02:39] <E_mE> Tyler: i've designed the whole work intranet on PHP5 its work nice.. .no errors for me so far
[02:39] <underdog5004> bxnp, sounds like you really REALLY borked your system...
[02:39] <bxnp> this is what i get when i am on /dev/tty underdog5004
[02:39] <underdog5004> libelular, it may not be available for edgy simply because it breaks something else...
[02:39] <Tyler>  I dunno php5 didn't work very well for me
[02:39] <bxnp> i need to know if some script is altertings the permission so thats why i need to know the default permissions
[02:39] <Tyler> It's too strict lol
[02:39] <underdog5004> bxnp, ah, ok...h/o
[02:39] <Dr_willis> the defaults should be 777 i thought.
[02:40] <bxnp> thanks
[02:40] <bxnp> :)
[02:40] <Dr_willis> ls -l /dev/null
[02:40] <Dr_willis> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 2006-12-15 12:22 /dev/null
[02:40] <bxnp> mine are when i boot only CRM
[02:40] <bxnp> crw
[02:40] <bxnp> i meant
[02:40] <libelular> underdog5004:  nomachine works fine in a xandros machine... why not edgy?
[02:40] <bxnp> you see underdog5004 some script is altering my permissions
[02:40] <bxnp> when i boot
[02:40] <link__> E_me: update on the php-shizzle:  yeah something came up on <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:41] <bxnp> /dev/tty and x are using /dev/null so if it cant write to it you system behaves strange
[02:41] <Dr_willis> bxnp,  /dev/ is a dynamic file system. I dont even know why a script would be doing that.
[02:41] <underdog5004> bxnp, I get this for permissions: crw-rw-rw-
[02:41] <link__> E_me: I installed the php5... cuz its newer
[02:41] <underdog5004> libelular, I have no idea
[02:41] <underdog5004> I'm not a developer...
[02:42] <bxnp> me neither, that's why i was a bit supprised by reconfigure x, cause then i still dont know what is happening on my system
[02:42] <bxnp> if that is the case i could better use windows :)
[02:42] <bxnp> the only thing i need to know is what script is responsible
[02:42] <Tyler> I think I figured out why linux doesn't work properly :D
[02:42] <Tyler> It doesn't like my processor ):
[02:42] <libelular> underdog5004:  could I use something else to remote edgy from a windows machine (GUI) ?
[02:42] <underdog5004> tyler, which are you using?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1     - has ubuntu downloads.
[02:42] <Tyler> I have an AMD Duron Proceessor
[02:42] <underdog5004> libelular, what do you mean? Like a remote desktop?
[02:43] <E_mE> ok link__:  create a test.php in /var/www and enter some code
[02:43] <Tyler> And I'm trying to run 6.06.1
[02:43] <underdog5004> Tyler, aw, it'll run fine on that...I know mine ran fine....
[02:43] <libelular> underdog5004:  yes
[02:43] <Tyler> I have 512MB of RAM and stuff
[02:43] <underdog5004> libelular, uh, not sure that'll work...
[02:43] <link__> E_mE: ok///  (newbie boy gonna try it now)
[02:43] <E_mE> link__: then in your web browser type http://<IP_ADDRESS>/test.php and magic!
[02:43] <Tyler> Why won't it work tho lol
[02:43] <link__> lol
[02:43] <underdog5004> libelular, you may need to ssh in or vlc in to your edgy box from another linux install.
[02:44] <libelular> Dr_willis:  not working
[02:44] <Dr_willis> libelular,  check their forums then i guess.
[02:44] <E_mE> Tyler: id try to reinstall you ubuntu... or upgrade to 6.10 and see if anything different happens.. sounds like you got fair few problems
[02:44] <Tyler> Yeah I have ALOT of problems
[02:44] <newlinuxguy> okay...
[02:44] <libelular> underdog5004,  Dr_willis  Thank you !
[02:44] <newlinuxguy> I am staying home to get this done
[02:44] <Tyler> not even mentioning the problems at bootup
[02:45] <E_mE> Tyler: eleminate the simpliest of theroies before going for the insane ones
[02:45] <underdog5004> libelular, np, sorry I couldn't help...
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> everyone cross your fingers
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> I have the alt text cd
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> the md5 was good
[02:45] <Tyler> I've tried everything
[02:45] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, it'll be fine...have fun with it!
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> you haven't been here
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> I've been trying since about 3 today
[02:45] <E_mE> Tyler: what hardware do you have?
[02:45] <newlinuxguy> and spent 3 hours last night
[02:46] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, bummer, how much ram do you have>?
[02:46] <Tyler> 2 drives AMD Duron processor 512MB ram Compaq Modem, Sound card, Floppy
[02:47] <E_mE> Tyler: is that a software based modem??
[02:47] <Tyler> I don't think so.
[02:47] <Dr_willis> Egads a sound card?! :)
[02:47] <bobleny> Hey, how come every time I unistall mysql it takes amarok with it!???!???!?????!????!
[02:47] <E_mE> Tyler: do you know what the chip model is?
[02:47] <bobleny> What else is it taking!?
[02:47] <Tyler> uh... no I can look tho.
[02:48] <E_mE> Tyler: most advisable, try to look for the drivers from the Modems processor model
[02:48] <newlinuxguy> underdog, you asked me how much
[02:48] <newlinuxguy> RAM
[02:48] <newlinuxguy> 512 megs
[02:48] <newlinuxguy> pc2100
[02:48] <surgy_> im guessing that the response to the following question is going to be "your in the wrong channel" but ill ask anyways, wolfenstein enemy territory downloads as a .run file what do i do with it?
[02:49] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, weird...you shouldn't need to use the alt install disc...
[02:49] <underdog5004> surgy_, you're in the wrong channel...
[02:49] <underdog5004> jk
[02:49] <Rob-West> hi newlinuxguy
[02:49] <underdog5004> surgy_, try double-clicking it
[02:49] <newlinuxguy> im back
[02:49] <newlinuxguy> i decided to call and stay home
[02:49] <newlinuxguy> I'm determined to get running!
[02:50] <surgy_> underdog5004: i did it opens kate and shows a couple hundred pages of C++ code
[02:50] <Tyler> Dang modem doesn't say
[02:50] <underdog5004> surgy_, you may need to compile it...
[02:50] <underdog5004> !make
[02:50] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:50] <Tyler> All i can get is a moddle
[02:50] <newlinuxguy> hey guys
[02:50] <E_mE> Tyler: there should be a number on the chip
[02:50] <underdog5004> Tyler, does it have more than 3 chips on it?
[02:51] <Tyler> Uh...
[02:51] <newlinuxguy> do you guys just have 3 partitions?  1st part as primary and root, 2nd part as logical and swap, and 3rd part as /home and logical?
[02:51] <underdog5004> maybe a big one too?
[02:51] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, that's my setup
[02:51] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy u know that link u showed me
[02:51] <underdog5004> except my swap is physical
[02:51] <link__> E_mE: alright, that worked fine
[02:51] <Rob-West> is that ur stuff
[02:51] <Tyler> No just too small chips
[02:51] <Tyler> 8two
[02:52] <Tyler> *two
[02:52] <surgy_> man i hate compiling..........
[02:52] <newlinuxguy> does it matter whether you make things logical/physical?
[02:52] <E_mE> link__: wicked! i won't complicated you with any other stuff you like mysql but at least you can do some PHP now ;)
[02:52] <surgy_> it never works
[02:52] <newlinuxguy> could that be why im lockign up?
[02:52] <E_mE> surgy_: i love compiling... seeing the magic happen :D
[02:52] <surgy_> and plus a .run needs to be compiled might just be my little noob brain working here but that sounds strange
[02:52] <E_mE> Tyler: is it a card this modem?
[02:52] <E_mE> Tyler: PCI card or so
[02:53] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, I doubt it...
[02:53] <link__> E_mElol. sweet... although mysql is the next logical step for LAMP
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> i do have an ati tv card
[02:53] <underdog5004> newlinuxguy, how new is your RAM?
[02:53] <bobleny> Hey, why is it that when I unistall mysql with adept manager, it unistalls amarok???
[02:53] <Tyler> The modem on my laptop is but the one with linux is on COM3
[02:53] <underdog5004> might be a hardware problem...
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> just bought it
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> from a forum tho
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> I have checked the ram
[02:53] <link__> E_mE: is mysql really that insane?
[02:53] <underdog5004> you used memtest86+?
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> if that's the deal in the install cd
[02:53] <newlinuxguy> ya
[02:54] <E_mE> link__: no its not insane, little annoying at times... but if you know SQL then you should be fine..
[02:54] <Tyler> It's at bootup.
[02:54] <underdog5004> I don't know if it is or not...
[02:54] <Tyler> Linux takes 30 minutes to boot up
[02:54] <Tyler> so ):
[02:54] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy can i PM u
[02:54] <newlinuxguy> yeah feel free rob
[02:54] <link__> E_mE: guess im not fine then.  lol
[02:54] <newlinuxguy> the comm is open
[02:54] <E_mE> link__: SQL aint hard might i add... do you know relational database theroy?
[02:55] <bobleny> ...
[02:55] <E_mE> Tyler: 30 fecking minutes :/
[02:55] <link__> E_mE: not at all...  what's relational database theory?
[02:55] <Dr_willis> Egads - what kind of chip ya got in that machine? a Dorito?
[02:55] <Tyler> yeah
[02:55] <Tyler> 30 mins man
[02:55] <E_mE> link__: hold on...
[02:55] <Tyler> It goes to DOS
[02:55] <Tyler> On bootup
[02:56] <link__> E_mE: okay
[02:56] <Tyler> It'll just set there for 20 mins
[02:56] <E_mE> link__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_database
[02:56] <Tyler> Counting Clusters
[02:56] <Tyler> Of my WINDOWS drive!
[02:56] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy check ur PMs
[02:56] <bobleny> Does amarok need any MySQL files to work?
[02:56] <newlinuxguy> you do the same
[02:56] <newlinuxguy> I responded and you asked the same question rob
[02:57] <E_mE> Tyler: you seems to have fair few problems
[02:57] <link__> E_mE: lol... wow... I should have just went there and replied "yes" whilst I figured out what you were talking about
[02:57] <underdog5004> !register | newlinuxguy Rob-West
[02:57] <ubotu> newlinuxguy Rob-West: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:57] <Tyler> Yeah I do.
[02:57] <Rob-West> i did register
[02:57] <Tyler> I'm trying to figure out what's causing
[02:57] <Rob-West> newlinuxguy needs to
[02:57] <underdog5004> ok...it's necessary to register to use pm's
[02:57] <underdog5004> ah, ok
[02:57] <E_mE> Tyler: does your windows run perfectly okay?
[02:58] <Tyler> Yeah I have Windows ME  on it
[02:58] <E_mE> hahah Windows ME
[02:58] <Tyler> and it boots up in 10 seocnds
[02:58] <bobleny> !amarok
[02:58] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[02:58] <Tyler> everything works perfect
[02:58] <E_mE> Tyler: sorry i could be sick on WinME
[02:58] <newlinuxguy> this is a temp nick
[02:58] <underdog5004> lol, Windows: Mistake Edition
[02:58] <Tyler> Yeah I know it sucks (My reason to get linux)
[02:58] <E_mE> Tyler: get your self a copy of Win2k at least
[02:58] <newlinuxguy> I guess I should use my typical handle
[02:58] <underdog5004> as if they all weren't...
[02:58] <newlinuxguy> lol
[02:59] <Tyler> I'm on a Windows 98SE comp right now
[02:59] <E_mE> Tyler:  you tried any other distros of linux?
[02:59] <Tyler> I'm going to
[02:59] <Rob-West> just register it newlinuxguy
[02:59] <newlinuxguy> okay
[02:59] <Tyler> Probelly Freespire ad Knoppix
[02:59] <Tyler> *and
[02:59] <bobleny> Hey, why is it that when I unistall mysql with adept manager, it unistalls amarok???
[02:59] <Tyler> Maybe ubuntu 6.10
[03:00] <underdog5004> bobleny, if nobody responds, that means that nobody knows
[03:00] <bobleny> Not always...
[03:00] <E_mE> Tyler: i advise, if you still have problems... id consider ur hardware somewhat
[03:00] <Tyler> old?
[03:00] <newlinuxguy> !register
[03:00] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:00] <newlinuxguy> lol
[03:00] <newlinuxguy> okay
[03:00] <Rob-West> i just used /ns register pass email
[03:00] <Tyler> Yeah I know it's old XD
[03:00] <Tyler> From 2000
[03:01] <E_mE> Tyler: old shouldn't be a problem... should be more compatible then.. but maybe cheap or incompatible
[03:01] <Tyler> I should probelly get a new modem
[03:01] <matthew0507> anyone know how to control cpu fan speed in kubuntu? my cpu fan is spiriling at max rev
[03:02] <Tyler> I wonder if a PCI card modem'll work better with linux?
[03:02] <E_mE> Tyler: why you still using a modem ;)
[03:03] <Tyler> Because I have dialup lmao
[03:03] <Tyler> That's why lol
[03:04] <Tyler> I need to get DSL yeah...
[03:04] <E_mE> Tyler: where u from?
[03:04] <snowrichard> hi
[03:04] <Tyler> Oklahoma (US)
[03:04] <snowrichard> you getting ice up there yet?
[03:04] <E_mE> Tyler: i'm sure DSL in USA must be mega cheap now
[03:04] <snowrichard> I'm in east texas
[03:05] <Tyler> Were having a huge now storm
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> Missouri (US)
[03:05] <Tyler> *snow
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> yep E
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> 30/month
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> sometimes cheaper
[03:05] <Tyler> $15 a  month
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> i have cable
[03:05] <E_mE> in the UK we can get DSL for 14,99/mth
[03:05] <snowrichard> its not available where I live, I'm using a wireless provider
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> that's about 30
[03:05] <E_mE> but thats generally capped to 5gig or something
[03:05] <newlinuxguy> in usd i think
[03:06] <Tyler> Yeah
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> 5 gig!
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> lol
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> wow
[03:06] <Tyler> 5 gig ain't much.
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> i might be thinking of something
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> else
[03:06] <E_mE> i pay 24,99 month unlimited on mid range performance
[03:06] <Tyler> I have 5 gig of traffic a month on dialup
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> we are typically capped at 1.5M a month d/l
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> and about 368k u/l
[03:06] <bxnp> oke underdog5004 i found the solution
[03:06] <Tyler> 1.6 MB!?
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> ahh
[03:06] <underdog5004> bxnp, what's the issue?
[03:06] <E_mE> ive got 8Mbit connection
[03:06] <newlinuxguy> you are saying per month
[03:06] <underdog5004> 4.3Mb here
[03:07] <underdog5004> and somewhere around 400Kb up
[03:07] <Minataku> newlinuxguy... I like that name, lol
[03:07] <Tyler> I've got a 0.3MB con lol
[03:07] <E_mE> hehe
[03:07] <bam_> hi...I was wondering how I could turn off CPU frequency scaling on my desktop??
[03:07] <E_mE> funny thing is i live out in the middle of the country side and still get 8Mb
[03:07] <E_mE> DSL is good in UK now... use to be crap
[03:08] <bxnp> oke in kubuntu dapper, in the systemsettings menu services i saw that udev was not started in rc2.d
[03:08] <underdog5004> wish cable wasn't so expensive...I pay somewhere around 60 bucks a month for 4.3Mb...
[03:08] <underdog5004> bleagh
[03:08] <underdog5004> ah, that makes sense.
[03:08] <E_mE> :o $60
[03:08] <snowrichard> can't get cable here either
[03:08] <E_mE> thats a rip off
[03:08] <snowrichard> a few hundred feet outside city limit
[03:08] <bxnp> so i marked it, however udev is exacly started,  and when you mark it in the system settings it wont check if udev is already running or not
[03:08] <E_mE> most ISPs in the UK don't offer 4Mb... they just offer 8Mb as a standard
[03:09] <bxnp> this causes the strange behaviour
[03:09] <E_mE> but then it depends on how far from the exchange you live
[03:09] <bxnp> you can recreate if you want by checking udev in rc2.d in the systemsettings menu
[03:09] <newlinuxguy> i'd think the uk would have more fiber optics implemented
[03:09] <newlinuxguy> being so small
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[03:10] <E_mE> perhapse...
[03:10] <newlinuxguy> relatively speaking of course
[03:10] <E_mE> but BT owns all the exchanges and telephone lines in the UK
[03:10] <newlinuxguy> it seems that europe/asia are always ahead of us when it comes to publically available tech
[03:10] <Tyler> Fiber Optic sounds awesome :D
[03:10] <E_mE> and ISPs and other telephone companies rent them off BT
[03:10] <bxnp> the strange thing is that when you change someting in the systemsettigs menu there is no check if it is not started by a different rc
[03:10] <newlinuxguy> ahh
[03:11] <snowrichard> ATT will soon own all exchanges in the us again the way their headed :)
[03:11] <newlinuxguy> kind of like the new east india tea company
[03:11] <bxnp> so that its possible to have multiple instances of the same is running
[03:11] <newlinuxguy> hehe
[03:11] <Tyler> Somebody should make a Distro made for just dialup. I'd buy it :D
[03:11] <E_mE> newlinuxguy: its funny, because 7 years ago, the US was well ahead of us in the UK on interent etc...
[03:11] <newlinuxguy> that's funny isnt it snow
[03:11] <phiqtion> i just installed kubuntu-desktop, when logging in it says something about a file not being found. Before i installed kubuntu, i selected GDM as default. Did i did something wrong? any help will be highly appreciated
[03:11] <bxnp> do you now what i mean underdog5004
[03:11] <E_mE> Tyler: make it your self ;)
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> !commands
[03:12] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[03:12] <Tyler> If I made an operating system it'd be a simple thing.... ERROR!!!!!
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> great news guys!
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> I'm not locked up ... yet
[03:12] <Tyler> You had an error?
[03:12] <Tyler> Oh... lol
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> DONT JINX ME TY!
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> :)
[03:12] <newlinuxguy> :D
[03:12] <Tyler> lol
[03:13] <bxnp> anyway need to reboot to test my theory underdog5004
[03:13] <newlinuxguy> I have been trying Ubuntu cd's all day
[03:13] <Tyler> Dapper Drake is a horrible Distro lol
[03:13] <newlinuxguy> now im trying Kubuntu
[03:13] <E_mE> Tyler: i hope you don;t listen to some cheap metal music while talking of such things
[03:13] <E_mE> kubuntu is amazng :D
[03:13] <Tyler> Nope
[03:13] <K-Ryan> newlinuxguy having trouble with what part of installing?
[03:13] <Tyler> lmao
[03:13] <coreymon77> guys
[03:13] <Tyler> It looks good
[03:13] <coreymon77> why is the sun jre version on apt so outdated?
[03:13] <Tyler> And the included programs work good
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> k-ryan... I was using the gui ubuntu install and got random errors on it... good md5 and good cd check
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> then I went witht he minmum cd install
[03:14] <Tyler> But downloaded programs, Open with Kate
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> and d/l from network
[03:14] <K-Ryan> newlinuxguy where did you get the errors?
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> typically hung at the section of "installing software"
[03:14] <Tyler> Floppy Drive don't evnen mount
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> the base system did fine
[03:14] <phiqtion> i just installed kubuntu-desktop, when logging in it says something about a file not being found. Before i installed kubuntu, i selected GDM as default. Did i did something wrong? any help will be highly appreciated
[03:14] <newlinuxguy> in face I got a console to load and do great
[03:14] <Tyler> All the other stuff is even more messed up
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, I know had had trouble with partitioning
[03:15] <Tyler> Yeah I had trouble with partioning
[03:15] <coreymon77> the latest version on the repos is update 8
[03:15] <Tyler> Too me an hour to get it partioned without an error
[03:15] <coreymon77> but the real latest version is update 10
[03:15] <snowrichard> I just installed edgy from DVD and it worked fine.
[03:15] <newlinuxguy> the d/l of the alt-text install for kubuntu vs ubuntu is doing great
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Tyler mine was upfront about the errors =)
[03:15] <Tyler> lol
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Had to format the drive though, couldnt just resize it
[03:15] <newlinuxguy> is the new version 7.04 worth upgrading to or is it beta?
[03:15] <K-Ryan> feisty?
[03:15] <newlinuxguy> I saw a link saying it was "cd 2"
[03:16] <Tyler> Me too
[03:16] <newlinuxguy> yeah
[03:16] <K-Ryan> its not stable yet
[03:16] <newlinuxguy> feisty
[03:16] <newlinuxguy> okay
[03:16] <Tyler> I had to go into windows and make a partion
[03:16] <K-Ryan> yeah "Feisty Fawn"
[03:16] <Tyler> and partion 100% of that partion
[03:16] <Tyler> to make it work
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Tyler same here
[03:16] <coreymon77> why is the java version on the apt repos so outdated?
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Just kind of formatted it in pieces with kubuntu
[03:16] <Tyler> You having trouble like it talomg fprever to boot up?
[03:16] <Tyler> *Forever
[03:17] <K-Ryan> It takes me a little
[03:17] <matt0507> ...
[03:17] <K-Ryan> a minute or two because i have some other unresolved issues
[03:17] <Tyler> 30 mins for me man
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Youch!
[03:17] <Tyler> It like scans every cluster in my harddrive
[03:17] <matt0507> iso
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Oh, it does that every 30 boots
[03:17] <Eruantalon> K-Ryan: I read somewhere that Feisty will (in kubntu) be able to upgrade to next release of kubuntu without me manually changing any sources.list files. Is this true? And will it work in transition from edgy to feisty or will it be feisty to fesity+1?
[03:17] <matt0507> !iso
[03:17] <Tyler> I need to see if I can get into settings and crap and take that out
[03:17] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Eruantalon you will probably have to change the sources list, that's just how upgrading works.
[03:18] <bam_> hi...I was wondering how I could turn off CPU frequency scaling on my desktop??
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Also it should work edgy to feisty, i did dapper to edgy and it worked
[03:18] <Tyler>  I think I'll try making my own distor
[03:18] <Tyler> *distro
[03:18] <K-Ryan> feisty to feisty+1 I'm not sure what you speak of
[03:18] <specialbuddy1> what's a good program for getting better battery life?
[03:19] <matthew1429> Alright
[03:19] <K-Ryan> specialbuddy1 programs don't improve battery
[03:19] <matthew1429> that's my real nick
[03:19] <Eruantalon> K-Ryan: Well I read somewhere that adept was being updated so that i nice balloon would pop up to tell there was i new release and that it would change sources.list automatically if i wanted it to
[03:19] <K-Ryan> Better management does, which can be done from system settings>laptop
[03:19] <K-Ryan> Think so anyway
[03:19] <specialbuddy1> K-Ryan well don't I have to download that?
[03:19] <K-Ryan> Eruantalon I could see that happening, but changing the source.list is easy from Adept_manager
[03:20] <K-Ryan> specialbuddy1 its a system thing, so you dont
[03:20] <Eruantalon> Well it should be automatic...
[03:20] <specialbuddy1> I don't see anything that says laptop
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Eruantalon but if you wanted to stay with edgy not feisty
[03:20] <K-Ryan> You would be downloading packages for a distro you don't have
[03:20] <Tyler> How do you uninstall it?
[03:20] <Tyler> I need to reattempt to install it
[03:20] <K-Ryan> Like downloading itunes for mac but you run winblows
[03:20] <Tyler> lok
[03:21] <specialbuddy1> K-Ryan I don't see Laptop in system-settings
[03:21] <K-Ryan> hrmm, maybe it was somewhere else ill keep looking
[03:21] <Tyler> Go to System Settings / Laptop & Power
[03:22] <Tyler> There's all kinds of system settings and stuff there
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, maybe I saw it in Dapper
[03:23] <K-Ryan> Not sure but I don't see it
[03:23] <Tyler> Yeah it's in Dapper
[03:23] <Tyler> (I'm in Dapper)
[03:23] <specialbuddy1> what's in Dapper
[03:23] <K-Ryan> the laptop and power thing
[03:23] <Tyler> Yea
[03:23] <tanlaan> !unrar
[03:23] <ubotu> unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[03:23] <Tyler> !dialup
[03:23] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[03:24] <Tyler> !modem
[03:24] <Tyler> !powersettings
[03:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about powersettings - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:24] <specialbuddy1> it seems like they always get rid of something good with each upgrade
[03:24] <K-Ryan> well then again im running desktop
[03:24] <Tyler> Prolly so.
[03:25] <K-Ryan> They might of put it in monitor & display in edgy
[03:25] <K-Ryan> or limited it to systems that are actually laptops
[03:25] <Tyler> (Anyone know how to uninstall it)
[03:25] <Tyler> ?
[03:25] <K-Ryan> uninstall what?
[03:25] <Tyler> Kubuntu
[03:25] <K-Ryan> !uninstall
[03:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:25] <K-Ryan> hrmm
[03:25] <K-Ryan> !kubuntu
[03:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:26] <K-Ryan> hold on
[03:26] <Tyler> Should I just delete everything on the partion
[03:26] <Tyler> Or boot the live CD?
[03:26] <K-Ryan> Tyler, DO NOT DELETE THE PARTITION
[03:26] <K-Ryan> Screwed my system up by doing that
[03:27] <K-Ryan> I'm looking for a guide for you
[03:27] <matthew1429> I think I have issues with my cd rom
[03:27] <matthew1429> it got to 85% this time
[03:27] <matthew1429> in the select and install software section
[03:27] <matthew1429> atleast it didnt hang
[03:27] <matthew1429> sigh
[03:27] <matthew1429> I'm about to throw in the towel
[03:28] <balarka> hi
[03:28] <balarka> good evening
[03:28] <specialbuddy1> I found APM(advanced power management) and I got NO APM support in kernel
[03:28] <balarka> anyone help me in KDevelop
[03:28] <balarka> please!!!!!!!!!!
[03:28] <Tyler> !KDevelop
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KDevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <balarka> yes
[03:29] <Tyler> This bot isn't smart is it?
[03:29] <Tyler> lol
[03:29] <Tyler> !ask KDDEvelop
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask KDDEvelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <balarka> who?
[03:29] <HymnToLife> !kdevelop
[03:29] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[03:29] <balarka> Tyler: who to ask
[03:30] <Tyler> Dunno
[03:30] <Tyler> I'm not a ubuntu expert
[03:30] <Tyler> I'm a Windows guy
[03:30] <balarka> hmmm
[03:30] <balarka> me too
[03:31] <Tyler> I got tired of Windows ME (Mistake Edition)
[03:31] <balarka> oooh
[03:31] <Tyler> So I decided I need to get Linux
[03:31] <balarka> can u tell me channel for KDevelop
[03:31] <balarka> ?
[03:31] <balarka> please
[03:31] <Tyler> I dunno
[03:31] <balarka> ok
[03:31] <Tyler> Try #kdevelop ?
[03:31] <balarka> nope
[03:31] <balarka> ok
[03:31] <balarka> will try
[03:34] <Thehound666> omg! I just installed real Java and ran a hungry Java app on Linux that rapes a more powerful Windows computer. It hardly dented my resources
[03:34] <Thehound666> why is Java so much more efficient on nix?
[03:34] <specialbuddy1> !kpowersave
[03:34] <ubotu> kpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3216 kB, installed size 4984 kB
[03:34] <Tyler> Bah it's quiet...
[03:34] <specialbuddy1> that's what I wanted
[03:35] <Tyler> Ah
[03:35] <Tyler> Cool
[03:35] <Tyler> You know even tho there's like 100 people here
[03:35] <Tyler> It's quiet...
[03:36] <Thehound666> the program in question under Windows to have a good time I have to set its priority to below normal due to CPU usage
[03:36] <Thehound666> not on Kubuntu
[03:36] <Thehound666> weird
[03:36] <K-Ryan> I just ordered 30 Kubuntu CD's
[03:36] <K-Ryan> Hope it's enough
[03:36] <Thehound666> 30 O.O
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Not just for me -.-
[03:37] <K-Ryan> Spreading Linux joy
[03:37] <Eruantalon> K-Ryan: Is it still only dapper?
[03:37] <K-Ryan> The next Live CD distribution will be the one after Feisty I think I was told
[03:37] <Thehound666> just link the torrents wherever you post and find it appropriate
[03:37] <Thehound666> that should spread it faster than anything
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Thehound666 but the everyday person doesn't check forums often
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Nor do most people think Linux is easy
[03:38] <Eruantalon> People tend to get impressed by the shipit cd's
[03:38] <Thehound666> meh it's not for the first week or 2
[03:38] <Thehound666> but that week or 2 is worth it
[03:38] <K-Ryan> Eruantalon that too
[03:39] <K-Ryan> Thehound666 it's not easy because you don't know what you are doing.
[03:39] <Kr4t05> Someone should edit the boxart for K/Ubuntu 6.06 so people can print it and use it with Edgy and later.
[03:39] <Thehound666> to get what you want, you do need to compile alot
[03:40] <Thehound666> I outgrew doing just repositories after a week
[03:40] <K-Ryan> Thehound666 not really
[03:40] <bobleny> Hey, why is it that when I unistall mysql with adept manager, it unistalls amarok???
[03:40] <K-Ryan> The default install comes with a lot
[03:40] <Thehound666> well the 1 bug I found in Edgy seems fixed after those series of updates recently
[03:41] <Thehound666> let's see Bill fix it that fast
[03:41] <K-Ryan> Then most anything else you need unless it is an oddball thing, can be obtained from the repos
[03:42] <Eruantalon> bobleny: As far as i now amarok uses mysql to store its data
[03:42] <Eruantalon> though it can also sqlite
[03:42] <bobleny> ?! really !?
[03:42] <Eruantalon> yep
[03:43] <simen> heyy guys i have a problem with torrents..
[03:43] <specialbuddy1> is there a way to make my cpu performance go to 50% while I'm using the battery on my laptop
[03:43] <coreymon77> guys
[03:43] <coreymon77> i cant get the newest version of java to install properlyu
[03:43] <coreymon77> well atleast
[03:43] <coreymon77> on the system
[03:43] <Eruantalon> !java
[03:43] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:43] <simen> weell it says on the speedometer that my download speed is 3600kb/s but i only download at about 15 kb/s :S:S:S
[03:44] <simen> anyone know why ?
[03:44] <coreymon77> not that
[03:44] <Thehound666> oh and very smart guys. How Ubuntu got around the difficulty of Java, Having the Java package pull the libraries out of Java for a self install is genius, since I know Java is not in repositories anymore for legal reasons
[03:44] <coreymon77> the apt java is out dated
[03:44] <Morbo> simen- Depends on where you're downloading from
[03:44] <Eruantalon> simen: That is probably the collective speed of all people downloading...
[03:44] <simen> piratebay
[03:44] <coreymon77> so installed the new java manually
[03:44] <coreymon77> it works in firefox
[03:44] <simen> im the only one who uses our broadband
[03:45] <coreymon77> but for the system it still uses the apt one
[03:45] <Eruantalon> simen: What is your connection
[03:45] <Thehound666> oh you just get the .bin Java from sun, install fakeroot and Java Package then 1 line
[03:45] <simen> what do u mean ? :S:P
[03:45] <Skrot-> simen: The download speed you get is depending on the speed of the people who are seeding (sharing) the file.
[03:45] <Thehound666> sudo fakeroot -jpkg filename
[03:45] <Thehound666> makes a .deb for you
[03:45] <coreymon77> so i went to the /usr/bin directory
[03:45] <Thehound666> :)
[03:45] <simen> i dont think im seeding
[03:45] <coreymon77> and one by one
[03:46] <bobleny> Eruantalon, how can amarok use mysql with out apache?
[03:46] <coreymon77> started updating the symbolic links in the directory
[03:46] <Skrot-> simen: Nei, du leecher. Problemet er at a) De som deler fila har rva utlinje b) Det er veldig f som deler fila. Sorry about the norwegian :)
[03:46] <coreymon77> but
[03:46] <Morbo> simen- What do you mean by "speedometer"?
[03:46] <Eruantalon> Skrot-: Tal da engelsk
[03:46] <simen> on the internet
[03:46] <coreymon77> they are 3 files that i couldnt find in the /usr/bin directory
[03:46] <simen> skrot msn ?
[03:47] <Thehound666> I tried a huge Java app, so I know that method works perfectly
[03:47] <Thehound666> ;)
[03:47] <Skrot-> simen: Two secs.
[03:47] <coreymon77> that were in the /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin direcotry
[03:47] <Eruantalon> bobleny: Mysql is used for a lot of things. One of which is apache
[03:47] <coreymon77> the files are
[03:47] <Morbo> simen- What speedometer?
[03:47] <Maneit> Morbo: Probably itavisen.no
[03:47] <simen> on the internet
[03:47] <coreymon77> kinit, klist and ktab
[03:47] <simen> ja
[03:47] <simen> yes *
[03:47] <coreymon77> so i was wondering
[03:47] <Eruantalon> coreymon77: Theres is a command to choose the default java
[03:48] <bobleny> But I dont have apache on my computer....
[03:48] <simen> maneit : i cant answer on pvt :S
[03:48] <coreymon77> do i need to make a symbolic link to those somewhere?
[03:48] <nate_> ive downloaded http://www.xfce.org/ graphic installer, but how to i actualy install it?
[03:48] <Maneit> simen: The thing is, you can not expect to download at the full speed of your internet connection from places like the pirate bay
[03:48] <simen> hmm
[03:48] <simen> ok
[03:48] <Maneit> simen: Does it say how many seeders and leechers there are?
[03:48] <coreymon77> do i need to make symbolic links to the files kinit, klist and ktab anywhere?
[03:48] <Thehound666> fakeroot make*
[03:48] <Eruantalon> bobleny: Mysql doesn't have to have anything to do with apache
[03:49] <simen> is it better to use limewire ?
[03:49] <Thehound666> I'm a huge one for mistyping
[03:49] <Thehound666> my main Linux issue
[03:49] <Thehound666> :P
[03:49] <coreymon77> and for limewire
[03:49] <coreymon77> it only comes as an rpm
[03:49] <simen> maneit : is it better to use limewire ?
[03:49] <Maneit> simen: No idea. :)
[03:49] <coreymon77> and the LimeWireOther thing doesnt work
[03:49] <coreymon77> so should i use alien to install the rpm?
[03:50] <simen> maneit : why ?
[03:50] <Thehound666> I say use torrents. The best client is for Linux
[03:50] <Thehound666> :)
[03:50] <simen> ok
[03:50] <Thehound666> but no source code for lw?
[03:50] <Maneit> I've never tried limewire :)
[03:50] <simen> well i download a whole lot faster on limewire than on torrent
[03:50] <Thehound666> you serious? I can max my 10 mbit down on 1 torrent
[03:50] <Thehound666> sometimes
[03:51] <Maneit> Thehound666: From public sites?
[03:51] <Thehound666> no
[03:51] <simen> wow
[03:51] <Thehound666> private of course
[03:51] <esc_ape> is swap supposed to be enabled?
[03:51] <Maneit> I used to max my 100mbit from private trackers :>
[03:51] <simen> what private site ?
[03:51] <Morbo> 100mbit?
[03:51] <Thehound666> some can't be named but 1 that can be is Bitmetv
[03:51] <simen> thehound : what private site ?
[03:51] <simen> ok
[03:51] <Maneit> Morbo: yupp
[03:52] <Morbo> Holy <censored word of your choice>
[03:52] <Maneit> Thehound666: Should probably not mention any of them here. Most of them only serve pirated stuff.
[03:52] <Maneit> Morbo: It was good times indeed. But then I moved :(
[03:52] <Morbo> Pity.
[03:52] <Maneit> Yeah. I've only got 13mbit now
[03:52] <Thehound666> actually on public, I maxed on the Ubuntu tracker too
[03:53] <Thehound666> just took a few minutes
[03:53] <coreymon77> how od i uninstall a program that has ben installed through alien
[03:53] <surgy_> how do i change my file associations so that firefox is my defualt browser ( i want to use konq for filesystem only)
[03:53] <Thehound666> we know that one can be mentioned ;)
[03:53] <Maneit> simon: I used to get crappy speed on the pirate bay even though I had 100mbit.  Try this command sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:54] <simen> what is the best torrent website ?
[03:54] <Thehound666> Don't feel bad
[03:54] <coreymon77> oh
[03:54] <coreymon77> i fixed that
[03:54] <Maneit> simen: This is not the place to ask about that. And most of them are invite-only
[03:54] <Jucato> coreymon77: have you tried apt-0get or dpkg -r ?
[03:54] <Jucato> surgy_: System Settings -> KDE Components -> Web Browser?
[03:54] <simen> ok :S
[03:55] <Thehound666> well the best are secret ones you learn from joining communities.
[03:55] <Eruantalon> coreymon77: Ok. I can't really keep up with this channel...
[03:55] <simen> then i have another problem ( of course)
[03:55] <simen> hehe
[03:55] <frenris> how do I unload a passworded .rar with ark?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> frenris, you don't
[03:55] <Jucato> frenris: doesn't it ask you for the password?
[03:55] <Thehound666> all I can say is just join ones you find open on Google
[03:55] <Thehound666> and go from there
[03:55] <frenris> nope just throws an error
[03:55] <HymnToLife> passworder RARs can only be extracter from the command line
[03:55] <Jucato> frenris: oh, you need to install "unrar" from multiverse
[03:55] <surgy_> jucato: where is this system settings?
[03:55] <HymnToLife> passworded*
[03:55] <Eruantalon> frenris: You tried sudo apt-get intall unrar
[03:55] <simen> i wanted kxdocker so i typed apt-get install kxdocker in terminal and got it, but i cant open it :;S
[03:55] <Jucato> surgy_: K Menu -> System Settings
[03:55] <coreymon77> oh well
[03:55] <coreymon77> guys
[03:56] <surgy_> jucato: duh thnx man
[03:56] <coreymon77> when i tried to use the limewire other thing
[03:56] <simen> i wanted kxdocker so i typed apt-get install kxdocker in terminal and got it, but i cant open it :;S
[03:56] <esc_ape> can someone comment one this image that shows my partitions? Is swap supposed to be disabled? http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/8951/snapshot17ut.jpg
[03:56] <Jucato> simen: what can't you open?
[03:56] <simen> kxdocker
[03:56] <coreymon77> for limewire
[03:56] <Thehound666> and sorry about that Maneit from before. I wasn't even thinking of TV shows as pirated stuff :(
[03:56] <coreymon77> i tried to use it through the LimeWireOther method
[03:57] <Jucato> simen: but you were able to install it? have you tried Alt+F2, then typing "kxdocker"?
[03:57] <surgy_> jucato: i dont see "kde components" though
[03:57] <coreymon77> although whenever i run the runLime.sh file
[03:57] <coreymon77> i always get this error
[03:57] <Jucato> surgy_: er.. I might have it in the wrong place... do you have something like Default Applications in there?
[03:57] <frenris> sudo apt-get install unrar threw an error, something about cinelerra which I tried to install earlier :S
[03:57] <Maneit> Thehound666: hehe
[03:57] <coreymon77> ./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[03:57] <coreymon77> what is that about?
[03:57] <Jucato> surgy_: if you can't fine it, just try use the search box at the top
[03:57] <Jucato> frenris: have you enabled "multiverse" repository?
[03:57] <surgy_> jucato: no there was a different program for file associations i just forgot what it was
[03:58] <Jucato> surgy_: no that's different. you need to look for the Default Applications -> Web Browser
[03:58] <simen> jucato : i just tried now and it says : loading application and then it just disappears :S
[03:58] <surgy_> jucato: yea found it thnx again
[03:58] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, syntax error in the shell script
[03:59] <Jucato> simen: try running it from Konsole, you might get more descriptive error messages
[04:00] <simen> jucato : im not the best linux user.. just type as root in terminal apt-get install kxdocker and try and see if it works with u
[04:00] <Jucato> simen: I don't have kxdocker installed... and you don't need to launch it as root
[04:00] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: and what do i do about that?
[04:01] <simen> just install it :P its fast ! so u can see whats wrong cuz i dont know what to do at all
[04:01] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, correct it yourself I guess, and blame stupid developpers
[04:01] <simen> jucato :just install it :P its fast ! so u can see whats wrong cuz i dont know what to do at all
[04:01] <HymnToLife> or quit using p2p and buy your CDs
[04:01] <maziah> hi
[04:01] <Maneit> Seems kxdocker in kubuntu edgy is broken
[04:01] <coreymon77> but what is the syntax error
[04:01] <maziah> is there a way to increase the amount of threads used to download packages with apt-get?
[04:02] <coreymon77> what is a syntax error for that matter
[04:02] <simen> maneit :hm :S i've seen screenshots with people usin it
[04:03] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: what is a syntax error and how do i fix it
[04:04] <Maneit> simen: That doesn't mean it's not broken now :)
[04:04] <simen> off
[04:04] <simen> hehe
[04:04] <simen> im gonna go to bed now
[04:04] <simen> blah !
[04:04] <simen> :P
[04:04] <HymnToLife> coreymon77, you edit the script
[04:04] <simen> thnx for the help anyways guys :D
[04:04] <simen> <4
[04:04] <coreymon77> where
[04:04] <coreymon77> i dont knwo what the error is
[04:05] <HymnToLife> [03:57]  <coreymon77> ./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}") <= means there was a "(" where there sould have been a "}"
[04:05] <HymnToLife> on line 44
[04:06] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to install kubuntu on a hard drive with a windows partition already on it that I want to keep
[04:06] <coreymon77> so i change the "(" in   potential_java_dirs=(`ls -d1 "$JAVADIR"/j* | sort | to a "}"?
[04:06] <Hail_Spacecake> I also want to have a FAT32 partition for data that I can share between the 2 OSs
[04:06] <Hail_Spacecake> will there be a problem if
[04:07] <Hail_Spacecake> I put the main OS ext3 partition and the swap partition
[04:07] <intelikey> Hail_Spacecake shouldn't be.
[04:07] <Hail_Spacecake> in an extended partition?
[04:07] <Hail_Spacecake> will it still boot okay?
[04:07] <intelikey> yep
[04:07] <Hail_Spacecake> cool
[04:07] <intelikey> Hail_Spacecake but may i sujest that you might want a seperate $HOME partition
[04:08] <Hail_Spacecake> well, once I actually create the partition
[04:08] <Hail_Spacecake> (s)
[04:09] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm going to move some large files off the windows partition
[04:09] <Hail_Spacecake> and onto the FAT32 one
[04:09] <Hail_Spacecake> and then resize the FAT32 partition at the expense of the windows one
[04:09] <maziah> is it possible to modify how many connections apt uses to a source ?
[04:09] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: now ita telling me this
[04:09] <coreymon77> ./runLime.sh: 45: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[04:09] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: how do i fix that
[04:09] <Hail_Spacecake> until I do that, I'm somewhat short on space
[04:10] <Hail_Spacecake> so I don't want to create too many partitions
[04:10] <Hail_Spacecake> and deal with their overhead at this point
[04:10] <coreymon77> HymnToLife: what does it mean by bad substitution
[04:10] <intelikey> Hail_Spacecake about how much allocated for / ?
[04:10] <HymnToLife> !frostwire coreymon77
[04:10] <HymnToLife> use that instead
[04:10] <coreymon77> i tried frostwire
[04:10] <HymnToLife> !frostwire
[04:10] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:10] <HymnToLife> and ?
[04:10] <Hail_Spacecake> intelikey: maybe 8 gigs
[04:10] <intelikey> k
[04:10] <coreymon77> i found that limewire was faster
[04:11] <maziah> limewire pro for linux
[04:11] <specialbuddy1> how do you change cpu clock speed so that it won't run as fast when I'm using the battery
[04:11] <coreymon77> maziah: exactly
[04:11] <Eruantalon> specialbuddy1: What cpu do u have?
[04:11] <intelikey> Hail_Spacecake so space is a consideration there.    btw / requires about 3g unless /var and/or /usr are seperate from it...
[04:11] <coreymon77> so
[04:12] <coreymon77> what does it mean by bad substitution
[04:12] <specialbuddy1> T7200
[04:12] <coreymon77> this is the line
[04:12] <Hail_Spacecake> the whole drive is 60 GB
[04:12] <coreymon77>   for D in "${potential_java_dirs[@] }"; do
[04:12] <Hail_Spacecake> windows is right now 21 GB
[04:12] <intelikey> [ 8 -gt 3 ]  && should work.
[04:12] <Hail_Spacecake> the FAT32 will be 20 GB
[04:12] <Hail_Spacecake> and the extended partition with / and swap will be the rest
[04:12] <specialbuddy1> Eruantalon t7200 Intel Core duo 2
[04:12] <Hail_Spacecake> which is ~10 GB
[04:13] <Hail_Spacecake> swap takes up 2048 MB
[04:13] <Hail_Spacecake> so ~8GB for /
[04:13] <intelikey> laptop ?
[04:13] <Hail_Spacecake> yup
[04:13] <Eruantalon> ah.ok I just wanted to make sure it would support it.
[04:13] <intelikey> so that's why so much swap
[04:13] <intelikey> ok
[04:13] <Hail_Spacecake> the rule of thumb for swap is 2x the physical RAM, right?
[04:13] <coreymon77> im being told that there is a sytax error (bad substitution) in the runLime.sh file
[04:13] <Hail_Spacecake> I have a gig
[04:13] <coreymon77> the line is   for D in "${potential_java_dirs[@] }"; do
[04:14] <Hail_Spacecake> of RAM
[04:14] <coreymon77> so what does it mean by bad substitution
[04:14] <archangel_> can I use bit torrent instead of ktorrent in kde?  Ktorrent wont work right.
[04:16] <Phlosten> Hail_Spacecake: keep in mind that rule of thumb has been around since we had bugger all ram
[04:16] <HymnToLife> archangel_, certainyl
[04:16] <HymnToLife> just apt-get it
[04:16] <Hail_Spacecake> so I can get by with less?
[04:16] <intelikey> Hail_Spacecake not really.    1x + enough for wiggle room...  so 1.2g should suspend to ram/hybernate i would think    and as far as needing swap for anything else... hehhe i have one box with 96m ram and no swap another with 256m and no swap   yet another with 16m and no room for swap (cli only box)
[04:16] <Phlosten> Hail_Spacecake: i have 512MB ram and 512MB swap
[04:16] <K-Ryan> What do I do with a .rpg?
[04:16] <K-Ryan> *.rpm
[04:17] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[04:17] <Hail_Spacecake> so I can make / bigger
[04:17] <archangel_> cool, wasnt sure if a gnome program would work right on a kde environment
[04:17] <Hail_Spacecake> that's good to know
[04:17] <intelikey> K-Ryan   rm file.rpm
[04:17] <K-Ryan> that's it?
[04:17] <frenris> no
[04:17] <Phlosten> heh
[04:17] <frenris> it isn't
[04:17] <intelikey> K-Ryan that's how to get rid of it.
[04:17] <K-Ryan> nooooooooo
[04:17] <Phlosten> K-Ryan: rpms arnt for debian based systems
[04:17] <frenris> sudo apt-get get install alien
[04:17] <K-Ryan> I want to open/instal/it
[04:17] <intelikey> then get a .deb and install it.
[04:17] <frenris> rpms are not always available
[04:17] <maziah> is it possible to modify how many connections apt uses to a source ?
[04:18] <Phlosten> K-Ryan: best option = get a .deb to install, last resort, convert it to a .deb with alien
[04:18] <frenris> I mean .debs are not always avail
[04:18] <Phlosten> i look for .deb's first and then go the compile from source
[04:18] <intelikey> K-Ryan see Phlosten ^ for the long answer.   short answer is still   rm file.rpm
[04:19] <intelikey> :)
[04:19] <K-Ryan> i downloaded it so i could get rid of it? o.O
[04:19] <K-Ryan> ill just try the zip that i didnt know about...
[04:20] <intelikey> gzip bzip2 zip 7zip(or what ever the name is)
[04:20] <K-Ryan> I have Ark
[04:20] <intelikey> which is a frontend for those ^
[04:20] <intelikey> and for tar
[04:20] <Phlosten> \o/
[04:21] <intelikey> K-Ryan what is the full file name anyway ?
[04:22] <K-Ryan> errrrr
[04:22] <K-Ryan> limewire
[04:22] <intelikey> !frostwire
[04:22] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:22] <intelikey> K-Ryan have you been there ^ ?
[04:22] <K-Ryan> no
[04:22] <K-Ryan> my friend got that but he said it was supposed to cost 20 bucks or something
 frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire. <<<<<
[04:23] <K-Ryan> I know
[04:23] <K-Ryan> I hadn't seen that before
[04:23] <archangel_> dude the gnome version gives me the same error
[04:24] <archangel_> what gives
[04:24] <archangel_> trying to download mandriva and they only give it out by a torrent download
[04:25] <intelikey> you are the one with the error messages...
[04:25] <archangel_> you cant just d/l the iso from their server
[04:25] <archangel_> yeah
[04:25] <intelikey> would you like to share them ?
[04:26] <archangel_> sure, but I have to restart X after I do cause that is the only way to get rid of the message
[04:26] <ForgeAus> how do I change screenmode?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[04:27] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:27] <intelikey> archangel_ repetedly clicking the close button doesn't give an option to kill it ?
[04:27] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  if youy got your drivers set up right you can change them from the KDE control panel Monitors settings area.
[04:27] <ForgeAus> I don't have to FIX res I just need to switch res
[04:27] <archangel_> there is no buttons
[04:27] <ForgeAus> Dr willis, thats the problem monitor settings dies
[04:27] <intelikey> hmmm   xkill installed ?
[04:27] <archangel_> not even a border
[04:28] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  bummer.
[04:28] <intelikey> it kills windows that have not buttons
[04:28] <archangel_> can I send you a screen shot?
[04:28] <intelikey> yeah i guess
[04:28] <ForgeAus> Dr Willis I think my kubuntu LiveCD was slightly corrupt
[04:28] <ForgeAus> either that or my hardwares incompatible on some level
[04:28] <tzbishop> HowTo remove Kaffeine safely from Kubuntu?
[04:28] <intelikey> or should i say you have my permission.  whether or not you can.... i know not yet...
[04:28] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  this is a totally new install?
[04:29] <ForgeAus> no
[04:29] <ForgeAus> but there is an error on a totally new install (or using it thereafter) on boot
[04:29] <ForgeAus> (in something like kde-guidance power manager)
[04:29] <intelikey> archangel_ compress if it's big.  i'm on dialup
[04:29] <archangel_> ok
[04:29] <ForgeAus> also the when you boot from the live cd theres a test option that it fails
[04:29] <HymnToLife> tzbishop, sudo apt-get remove kaffeine
[04:30] <archangel_> dialup still exists?
[04:30] <ForgeAus> so I'm hoping when fiesty gets out of alpha/beta status I might d/l that
[04:30] <HymnToLife> why do you want to remove it though ? if you don't like it, just don't use it
[04:30] <archangel_> :o)
[04:30] <ForgeAus> should fix it
[04:30] <Phlosten> archangel_: apparently so
[04:30] <ForgeAus> the kubuntu I got is usable tho
[04:30] <K-Ryan> sorry, watching viral videos with a friend
[04:30] <K-Ryan> anyway, the frostwire file is a binary
[04:30] <K-Ryan> saving will result in a corrupted file or something
[04:30] <K-Ryan> what do i do?
[04:30] <ForgeAus> anyway is ther a commandline way of switching res?
[04:31] <intelikey> archangel_ if it didn't i wouldn't be here at all.    can't afford a satelite connection.
[04:31] <ForgeAus> wine can do it so I am sure I can somehow
[04:31] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, why on earth do you want to "save" it ?
[04:31] <ForgeAus> (infact wine did do it)
[04:31] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  you could always edit the xorg.conf file
[04:31] <K-Ryan> What am I supposed to do with it?
[04:31] <archangel_> 255.2 kb intelikey
[04:31] <ForgeAus> Dr willis I don't want it for startup I want it for during running
[04:31] <intelikey> k
[04:31] <HymnToLife> with what ?
[04:31] <ForgeAus> startup screenres is fine!
[04:31] <maziah> someone must know if its possible to increase the amount of conections apt makes to a source when downloading packages
[04:31] <K-Ryan> Frostwire
[04:31] <intelikey> send it
[04:31] <K-Ryan> hold on i'll brb...
[04:31] <ForgeAus> I ran a program that changed it to something small like 640 I need it bigger!
[04:32] <Dr_willis> ForgeAus,  try alt-ctrl-numpad + and -
[04:32] <archangel_> intelikey: yeah, that is pricey
[04:32] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, don't you mean the startup script ?
[04:32] <HymnToLife> IIRC, it need to be modifiet to run in Ubuntu
[04:32] <ForgeAus> does it matter if numlock is on?
[04:32] <ForgeAus> (didn't do anything either way)
[04:32] <Dr_willis> it might not - if the xorg.conf isent set right.
[04:32] <ForgeAus> ok how do I set it?
[04:33] <intelikey> man xorg.conf ?
[04:33] <archangel_> did you get the message or am I blocked from that? inteli
[04:33] <Dr_willis> yep - editing the xorg.conf file  is not a thing you learn in 4 min on irc.
[04:33] <ForgeAus> intellikey theres no program to do it?
[04:33] <jarn> I was following a guide on the ubuntu forums to try and install my printer and now the printing system appears to be broken, no matter what driver I load it gives me an error saying "unexpected OPTION" and all the drivers dissapeared off the list except CANON.
[04:34] <ForgeAus> slackware had some menu-based proggy to set all that stuff...
[04:34] <archangel_> lol, I did it in my first week in linux
[04:34] <HymnToLife> !fixres | ForgeAus
[04:34] <ubotu> ForgeAus: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:34] <archangel_> still on heavy meds from it
[04:34] <intelikey> ForgeAus i think kcontrol can manipulate xorg.conf    not sure.
[04:35] <intelikey> archangel_ i got nothing.
[04:35] <archangel_> I guess I have to register
[04:35] <intelikey> is your nick registered without the _ ?
[04:36] <archangel_> not registered at all
[04:36] <archangel_> should I ? can I ?
[04:36] <Jucato> !register
[04:36] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:36] <tzbishop> HymnToLife: it will also remove the following packages
[04:36] <tzbishop>   kaffeine-xine wlassistant kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kaffeine konq-plugins
[04:36] <tzbishop>   kde-systemsettings
[04:37] <intelikey> hmmm well careful there you may be using someone else's nick....  there is an archangel* around here all time.
[04:37] <archangel_> but I am the real one
[04:37] <HymnToLife> tzbishop, then if you're OK with it, remove if
[04:37] <HymnToLife> if not, don't
[04:37] <archangel_> :o)
[04:37] <intelikey> ah just not reg'd.  ok.     /msg nickserv help register
[04:38] <archangel_> I can register a nic even if someone else has it?
[04:38] <intelikey> nope.
[04:38] <bubu1uk> no, u cant
[04:38] <archangel_> oh ok
[04:39] <intelikey> an unregistered nick is first come first served   but if you own a nick and someone is using it you can bump them off your nest.
[04:39] <tzbishop> HymnToLife: I am not OK removing all those packages. I just want to remove kaffeine
[04:39] <archangel_> sweet
[04:39] <K-Ryan> Okay!
[04:39] <Dr_willis> remove them then reinstall them. :)
[04:39] <K-Ryan> No more interruptions
[04:39] <tzbishop> thanks
[04:40] <K-Ryan> I'm installing frostwire, assistance needed
[04:40] <surgy> If i upgrade my video card do i have to do anything to the driver? as long as i stay invidia when i upgrade can i leave my glx driver alone?
[04:40] <HymnToLife> tzbishop, you can't the, because all those packages depend on kaffeine
[04:40] <HymnToLife> then*
[04:40] <HymnToLife> !frostwire | K-Ryan
[04:40] <ubotu> K-Ryan: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:40] <surgy> k-ryan: lol thanks for answering question two, is frostwire anygood?
[04:40] <K-Ryan> surgy don't rely on me, i was really busy just now
[04:40] <K-Ryan> So I wasn't reading anything, I'm sure it's easy
[04:41] <ForgeAus> back'
[04:41] <surgy> k-ryan actually you answered my question "whats a good p2p client" before i asked it
[04:41] <ForgeAus> um that was a BAD BAD command
[04:41] <K-Ryan> Oh
[04:41] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, read the link ubotu gave
[04:41] <ForgeAus> dropped me out I had to figure how to run kdm to get back in
[04:41] <ForgeAus> but screenres is back
[04:41] <K-Ryan> HymnToLife I am
[04:41] <jarn> I installed a package I got off the internet for installing my printer, but it didn't work and I get an error when I try to remove it. It says /var/lib/dpkg/info/lexmark-z700-cups-driver.postrm: 2: /etc/init.d/cups: not found dpkg: error processing lexmark-z700-cups-driver (--remove): subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 127
[04:41] <K-Ryan> surgy it's free(as in open source,etc.)
[04:41] <K-Ryan> so that's a plus
[04:42] <surgy> yeah always
[04:42] <archangel_> I dont get it. where do I got to register? is it not a website?
[04:42] <archangel_> I'm not gettting much info
[04:42] <archangel_> or I'm a retard
[04:43] <intelikey> jarn you could edit that script and make   'cups'   into  'cupsys'    and it should work.
[04:43] <jarn> intelikey: How?
[04:43] <K-Ryan> I don't get the first step
[04:43] <archangel_> its just telling me to type in what i need, but not telling me WHERE to type it
[04:43] <K-Ryan> im supposed to download the installation file
[04:43] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  /msg nickserv help
[04:43] <HymnToLife> archangel_, just type this : /msg nickserv register YOUR_PASSWORD
[04:43] <surgy> archangel: your wanting to register with nickserv?
[04:43] <frenris> it won't let me install anything with apt-get, complains about my last package that failed from unmet dependencies, how to fix it?
[04:43] <archangel_> where?
[04:43] <K-Ryan> but its a .i86.something
[04:43] <archangel_> right here
[04:43] <ForgeAus> yeah you have to for some channels here surgy
[04:43] <archangel_> ?
[04:43] <intelikey> jarn alternatively you could make a symlink to cupsys.   sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/cupsys /etc/init.d/cups
[04:44] <HymnToLife> frenris, sudo apt-get -f install
[04:44] <K-Ryan> So how am I supposed to save it?
[04:44] <jarn> intelikey: Nvmd, I found how to edit it.
[04:44] <surgy> archangel: and then /msg nickserv identify [yourpassword]  everytime you log in or add it to auto perform
[04:44] <archangel_> termanal?
[04:44] <intelikey> jarn the symlink might be easier.
[04:44] <th3rorn> hay alguien q hable espaol?
[04:44] <ForgeAus> so dist-upgrade would move from say dapper to edgy?
[04:44] <K-Ryan> !es | th3rorn
[04:44] <ubotu> th3rorn: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[04:44] <jarn> intelikey: Too late, I edited it. xD
[04:44] <ForgeAus> if I'm already edgy it won't update me to feisty tho right?
[04:44] <K-Ryan> De nada
[04:44] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, it's a DEB package
[04:44] <ForgeAus> or do just normal adept updates do that anyway?
[04:45] <HymnToLife> save it wherever you want and install it with dpkg
[04:45] <HymnToLife> !deb
[04:45] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[04:45] <archangel_>  /msg nickserv register
[04:45] <K-Ryan> HymnToLife but kate says it's a binary and if i save it, it wont work
[04:45] <intelikey> jarn yeah but you probably can't save it cause it's owned by root     unless you thought of that ahead of time.
[04:45] <frenris> close and don't save
[04:45] <HymnToLife> kate ?
[04:45] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  right cliock on the download link and 'save as'
[04:45] <K-Ryan> text editor thing
[04:45] <Ick> how do i get libdvdcss2?
[04:45] <surgy> whould it be worth the trouble to go from a working glx driver to installing alglx?
[04:45] <jarn> intelikey: I did indeed.
[04:45] <HymnToLife> what does kate have to do with anything ?
[04:45] <Ick> is there a bot who will tell me?
[04:45] <frenris> he opened it
[04:45] <K-Ryan> Dr_willis there is only a save link as
[04:45] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  or wget http://www.frostwire.com/download.php?file=http://www.frostwire.com/frostwire/4.13.1/frostwire-<IP_ADDRESS>.i586.deb
[04:45] <frenris> save it as
[04:46] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  from a shell.
[04:46] <archangel_> doesnt work
[04:46] <frenris> and then don't double click on it
[04:46] <surgy> ick: open adept and search for it there
[04:46] <frenris> right click
[04:46] <archangel_> lol
[04:46] <Ick> surgy: i am in america
[04:46] <frenris> kubuntu package menu install package
[04:46] <surgy> ick: me too :)
[04:46] <bubu1uk> K-Ryan: Save as or save link as is same . lol
[04:46] <Ick> isn't that illegal?
[04:46] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register
[04:46] <archangel_> where do i type the command?
[04:46] <K-Ryan> bub1uk: long time no see, but doesnt save link as save the url>
[04:46] <intelikey> here
[04:46] <K-Ryan> ?
[04:46] <surgy> ick: oh lol i just saw lib (my bad) yeah you shouldnt do that
[04:46] <HymnToLife> Ick, in theory yes, it is
[04:47] <archangel_> web browser, irc chat box, terminal.....?
[04:47] <HymnToLife> irc
[04:47] <Ick> has anybody ever been prosecuted for violating it?
[04:47] <surgy> ick: but a grey area more than "illegal"
[04:47] <archangel_> ok
[04:47] <HymnToLife> not that I've heard of
[04:47] <frenris> HymnToLife: sudo apt-get -f install tries to install the last thing I tried to install (cinelerra). I'm trying to install something different (unrar). How do I get cinelerra off the list?
[04:47] <Dr_willis> archangel_,  /msg nickserv is a Irc command. :P you are talking to the nickserv 'bot'
[04:47] <Ick> why don't the distros do an act of civil disobedience?
[04:47] <K-Ryan> prosecuted for violating what?
[04:48] <HymnToLife> frenris, just apt-get remove cinelerra if you don't want it
[04:48] <archangel_>  /msg nickserv register jo jo
[04:48] <Ick> libdvdcss is technically illegal in the US
[04:48] <K-Ryan> what's it do?
[04:48] <archangel_>  /msg nickserv register jojo
[04:48] <intelikey> archangel_ just like you would /msg Dr_willis something  you are communicating with the bot in charge of nicknames....
[04:48] <HymnToLife> without a space before it archangel_ :p
[04:48] <archangel_> did it work?
[04:48] <Ick> allows you to play DVDs you legally purchased on a linux computer
[04:48] <K-Ryan> archangel_ do it in freenode
[04:48] <K-Ryan> and change your password from jojo =P
[04:49] <intelikey> archangel_ not unless you want the world to know that your passwd is jojo
[04:49] <K-Ryan> Ick that's not illegal
[04:49] <K-Ryan> You can play them in Windows
[04:49] <frenris> HymnToLife: never was installed
[04:49] <archangel_> lol, dude I am sooo green at this
[04:49] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, it's more complicated than that
[04:49] <K-Ryan> Not to mention it is YOUR property
[04:49] <HymnToLife> libdvdcss is used to break the CSS copy protection
[04:49] <archangel_> that was my question
[04:49] <K-Ryan> You aren't reverse engineering, decompiling, etc.
[04:49] <Dr_willis> its not really your property... its just licensed for you to use. :)
[04:49] <archangel_> lol
[04:49] <surgy> ick: if you legally download them from blockbuster or something then your os doesnt matter
[04:49] <K-Ryan> Oh, then I guess you are
[04:49] <HymnToLife> K-Ryan, no it's not, when you buy a DVD you don't own the film
[04:49] <K-Ryan> You own a copy =)
[04:49] <HymnToLife> no
[04:50] <surgy> ick: get vlc if you want divx support and avi support
  /msg nickserv register jojo  <<< tells me that you prepended something before /    / must be the first char
[04:50] <K-Ryan> Uhhh, you own a DVD with the movie on it?
[04:50] <HymnToLife> you just own the right to watch it for private use bleh, bleh, bleh
[04:50] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[04:50] <K-Ryan> And what is illegal about watching it on Linux? o.O
[04:50] <K-Ryan> surgy: frostwire is very easy to setup
[04:50] <HymnToLife> because you have to use libdvdcss
[04:50] <frenris> linux is communist
[04:50] <Dr_willis> theres not a 'legal' player to do it with. :)
[04:50] <HymnToLife> which breaks the copy protection
[04:50] <Ick> frenris: agreed.
[04:50] <Ick> viva la revolucion
[04:50] <surgy> k-ryan: but whats your search results like? good?
[04:51] <K-Ryan> haven't tried it yet
[04:51] <K-Ryan> but it usually gnutella so it would be the same as most P2P
[04:51] <archangel_> prepended?  intelikey
[04:51] <intelikey> if "<frenris> linux is communist"  then communist = good.    go figure.
[04:51] <Ick> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:51] <Ick> that helped me
[04:51] <danielches> what is the plugin needed to play commercial dvd's?
[04:52] <HymnToLife> !libdvdcss
[04:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:52] <surgy> intelikey: comunism is one of the greatest ideas humans have ever perceived, only corupt people make comunism bad.
[04:52] <Ick> danielches: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:52] <danielches> thx
[04:52] <frenris> linux belongs under the communist classification, but just because it is a "good" subset does not mean the superset is not usually evil. :)
[04:52] <HymnToLife> surgy, "The point, as Marx saw it, is that dreams never come true"
[04:52] <K-Ryan> surgy it depends on how it is run
[04:52] <HymnToLife> Hannah Arendt, IIRC
[04:52] <intelikey> surgy i agree.   and i also believe that freedom is an even better idea, only greed makes it bad.
[04:52] <Ick> GNU/Linux is definitely communist
[04:52] <archangel_> ok, where is freenode ?
[04:52] <K-Ryan> what the circumstances are, blah blah blah
[04:52] <Ick> archangel_: you're on it
[04:53] <Ick> it's this IRC network
[04:53] <archangel_> lol
[04:53] <HymnToLife> archangel_, you're on it right now
[04:53] <K-Ryan> archangel_ when you first joined the irc you were in freenode
[04:53] <surgy> k-ryan: "only corupt peple make comunism bad."
[04:53] <frenris> MATRIX
[04:53] <K-Ryan> You changed to #kubuntu
[04:53] <Ick> i am going to go watch my legally obtained DVD
[04:53] <Ick> later, guys
[04:53] <jarn> I'm trying to install my printer but only the Canon drivers are showing up.
[04:53] <archangel_> so the opening dialog box
[04:53] <K-Ryan> surgy: By run I meant more than just the peopel
[04:53] <archangel_> ?
[04:53] <K-Ryan> *people
[04:53] <K-Ryan> archangel_ are you running dapper or edgy?
[04:53] <archangel_> dapper
[04:53] <K-Ryan> Then it's right below the chat
[04:53] <K-Ryan> Click "freenode"
[04:54] <K-Ryan> It's a little tabby thing
[04:54] <surgy> man my step father is stealing all the bandwidth again. wished there was a secret way to limit him to half
[04:54] <frenris> how do I clear what my apt-get is trying to do and install something else instead?
[04:54] <libelular> could someone tell me where I can find libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ?
[04:54] <K-Ryan> surgy: you could actually do that...
[04:54] <surgy> got a 3mbps connection and he uses 2.998mbps
[04:54] <archangel_> oh, ok I see it. I was looking through the menus
[04:54] <K-Ryan> Ouch
[04:54] <surgy> yeah
[04:54] <archangel_> I feel like a retard
[04:54] <frenris> libelular: is it not on adept/synaptic?
[04:54] <K-Ryan> =)
[04:54] <surgy> so savage and ET run at 700ms lag :(
[04:54] <matt0507> anyone know how i can change my cpu fan speed? my fan is so noisy atm >,< driving me nuts
[04:55] <surgy> k-ryan: how whould i do that?
[04:55] <K-Ryan> matt0507 get a better fan  or get a water cooler
[04:55] <intelikey> archangel_ only people that are not a novice at some point, are the ones that are a novice at all points.
[04:55] <surgy> matt0507: dont know if theres a linux port but i used to use "speedfan" on win32
[04:55] <K-Ryan> surgy: I'm not sure google "Local bandwith restriction"
[04:55] <HymnToLife> frenris, please pastebin what you gen when trying ot install something so we can see exactly what it is
[04:55] <matt0507> yea im looking for something similar to speedfan
[04:55] <K-Ryan> !frostwire
[04:55] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:56] <HymnToLife> get*
[04:56] <intelikey> !Limewire
[04:56] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:56] <archangel_> :)
[04:56] <surgy> k-ryan i have done my research most require all traffic to go through my computer the rest make me install system tray software that he will notice
[04:56] <K-Ryan> Frostwire > Limewire
[04:56] <matt0507> !speedfan
[04:56] <frenris> !pastebin
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about speedfan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:56] <archangel_> ok I tried the command and it told me it was bad
[04:56] <K-Ryan> surgy: in your system tray or his?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> what exaclty did it tell you ?
[04:56] <HymnToLife> and what was the command you run ?
[04:56] <K-Ryan> because if you could sneak on his computer you set it up to never show the icon, if he runs windows
[04:57] <HymnToLife> ran*
[04:57] <archangel_> does that mean try another nic?
[04:57] <surgy> k_ryan: in every system tray that the bandwidth is to be limited
[04:57] <intelikey> /msg nickserv help register
[04:57] <archangel_>  /msg nickserv register password
[04:57] <surgy> k-ryan: no choice there and he runs winxp pro, and it always shows
[04:57] <K-Ryan> hrmm, well ill look around a little
[04:57] <K-Ryan> Mmmm
[04:57] <frenris> HymnToLife: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2378/
[04:58] <K-Ryan> Could you ask him to stop downloading....
[04:58] <K-Ryan> Err, nevermind
[04:58] <K-Ryan> =P
[04:58] <frenris> HymnToLife: nvm
[04:58] <frenris> HymnToLife: don't go
[04:58] <jarn> All the drivers for that CUPS has give me an error at line 1 "unexpected OPTION"
[04:58] <K-Ryan> Nah I guess your only choice for quick downloads is to download when he isn't on
[04:58] <K-Ryan> brb, restarting
[04:59] <archangel_> I need a new nic
[04:59] <intelikey> drop the _ and see what happens.
[04:59] <K-Ryan> back
[05:00] <archangel_> how?
[05:00] <surgy> k-ryan: or delete his shareaza.exe and save the icon make a fake sharaza.exe that crashes his desktop and put the real shareaza icon over the fake one :)
[05:00] <Minataku> I'ma give my SPARCstation LX a 48h test
[05:00] <surgy> k-ryan: and then whatch him do it
[05:00] <intelikey> /nick archangel
[05:00] <K-Ryan> perhaps
[05:00] <archangel_> k
[05:00] <K-Ryan> Or you could link the command to some naughty website
[05:00] <K-Ryan> so whenever he opened it up thats what opens too
[05:00] <Minataku> No OS, though, I can't do that until I get my CD caddies
[05:00] <Minataku> lol
[05:00] <intelikey> must be occupied.
[05:01] <surgy> lol see my mom freak out when a dog doing man pops :) lol  whould be great
[05:01] <K-Ryan> Forcing him to put effort into reinstalling it(unless he checks the command) or have him stop using it
[05:01] <Minataku> Just replace the shareaza EXE with some EXE that will BSOD Windows
[05:01] <archangel_> unknown command
[05:01] <K-Ryan> surgy its always good for a laugh ;)
[05:01] <Minataku> We all know there are plenty of code capable of doing that
[05:01] <Minataku> lol
[05:01] <surgy> k-ryan: and that way his crap antispyware cant find it so he will think its fixed and try again
[05:01] <intelikey> and no version information. archangel_ what client you using ?
[05:02] <K-Ryan> lol
[05:03] <K-Ryan> umm, frostwire wont open
[05:03] <intelikey> surgy i'm not sure what you meant by that, but it's probably not appropreate here.
[05:03] <K-Ryan> i open it, it loads, then doesnt open
[05:03] <K-Ryan> lemme try the konsole...
[05:03] <K-Ryan> not a high enough java level it seems
[05:04] <archangel_> konversation
[05:04] <surgy> intelikey: sorry if i offended someone, was just making conversation ill check myself better next time :)
[05:04] <K-Ryan> can I get a 1.5.x java install from repos?
[05:05] <archangel_> intelikey: konversation
[05:05] <surgy> ok guys ill see you guys later im gonna go game for a bit, once again sorry for offending anyone and bye
[05:05] <Minataku> Ugh, Java
[05:06] <Minataku> Grrrr... I hate these Mac commercials
[05:06] <intelikey> !info sun-java5-bin
[05:06] <K-Ryan> i found a great spoof of one on youtube
[05:06] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[05:06] <Minataku> Sorry, I'm in a bad mood, I should take some time away
[05:06] <intelikey> K-Ryan ^
[05:06] <Minataku> I have things to do anyway
[05:07] <K-Ryan> Thanks intelikey
[05:07] <K-Ryan> Well if it isn't my favorite C++ coder
[05:09] <archangel_> how do I change my nic?
[05:09] <K-Ryan> "/nick <insert nick here>"
[05:09] <K-Ryan> without "
[05:09] <archangel_> its telling me bad command
[05:09] <archangel_> that mean the nic is taken?
[05:09] <K-Ryan> If it says [Nick]  Nickname already in use, try a different one.
[05:09] <K-Ryan> Then yes
[05:10] <K-Ryan> intelikey do I have to restart X for java upgrades?
[05:10] <intelikey> archangel_ i'm not sure what konversation uses for it's command syntax   maybe  /help    would tell you   or hit the help button.
[05:10] <intelikey> K-Ryan no.
[05:10] <K-Ryan> intelikey it is /nick in konversation
[05:10] <archangel_> ok, thanks
[05:10] <intelikey> K-Ryan you may need to update-alternatives
[05:10] <K-Ryan> ?
[05:11] <intelikey> man update-alternatives
[05:11] <Dr_willis> or read the !java wiki
[05:11] <matt0507> anyone know if ARK is able to encrypt files name in an archive?
[05:11] <intelikey> Dr_willis that would be cheeting.
[05:11] <manchicken> matt0507: I think it can password protect the archive.
[05:11] <K-Ryan> !frostwire
[05:11] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:11] <matthew1429> hey guys, anyone dual boot here?
[05:12] <matthew1429> win/linux?
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[05:12] <frenris> sort of
[05:12] <K-Ryan> What's up?
[05:12] <matthew1429> just curious how you have your partitions
[05:12] <doc|> hi
[05:12] <matthew1429> have done a lot of searching
[05:12] <matthew1429> haven't gotten solid info
[05:12] <Dr_willis> hda = windows.. hdb = linux :)
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Well I've got a small boot partition on my main
[05:12] <Dr_willis> thats how i got them.
[05:12] <K-Ryan> and about 12GB for Linux on my 160GB
[05:12] <matthew1429> okay, so about 100mb for /boot
[05:12] <matthew1429> about 2 gig for /var
[05:12] <K-Ryan> Which I will increase unless my external HDD continues to not work
[05:13] <matt0507> manchicken: i dont see any option for setting a password in ark :(
[05:13] <matthew1429> swap should be 1024 mb for 512 meg ram
[05:13] <Dr_willis> you really dont need to worry about a /var and /boot if you dont want to.
[05:13] <manchicken> I've got mine /dev/hda: GNU/Linux, /dev/hdb: GNU/Linux, /dev/null: Windows ^_^
[05:13] <matt0507> also used adept to install 7-zip but i couldnt find it from my  kmenu after instal
[05:13] <matthew1429> so if I'm running a server or doing logs
[05:13] <Dr_willis> matt0507,  its a command line tool
[05:13] <Dr_willis> !find 7zip
[05:13] <manchicken> matt0507: I think it'd be in where you tell it what type of archive you make
[05:13] <ubotu> Found: p7zip, p7zip-full
[05:14] <intelikey> matthew1429 that might be because it's not a solid answer.  M$ needs a primary partition for eaze.    but linux can use exteded or primary  the size is not very important  as long as it sufficient to hold what you install...   so there are more options than one could cover in a simple answer.
[05:15] <matthew1429> if I'm going to do vmware or wine
[05:15] <doc|> I need help, Im go to http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_AIGLX ang , but wen Starting Beryl, whit beryl-manager, X crasher
[05:15] <matthew1429> will I need to reserve a partition for windows or does it do it inside a linux install
 swap should be 1024 mb for 512 meg ram <<<<  for what useage ?
[05:16] <matthew1429> I will have it turned on all the time
[05:16] <matthew1429> and will use the resume function
[05:16] <matthew1429> it was recommended to me to be atleast 2 gigs actually
[05:16] <K-Ryan> rule of thumb is twice your RAM
[05:16] <intelikey> matthew1429 you should scandisk and defrag from within windows then the linux installer will be able to resize it
[05:16] <Dr_willis> rules of thumb can be very wrong now a dyas. :)
[05:16] <K-Ryan> holy crap, this is exactly like limewire
[05:16] <matthew1429> :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> K-Ryan,  took ya long enough to get it going. :)
[05:17] <matthew1429> I'm just going to keep it simple
[05:17] <matthew1429> partition one is for root at 12 gigs
[05:17] <K-Ryan> i was having java trouble and referred to the help files, okay? =(
[05:17] <matthew1429> partition 2 is for swap at 2
[05:17] <matthew1429> and 3 /home 66 gigs
[05:17] <intelikey> your disk space waste it anyway you want.
[05:18] <matthew1429> i just read that /var should have it's own partition
[05:18] <matthew1429> if I'm going to run a server and need to check logs
[05:18] <Dr_willis> gee what kind of server ya going to do? runnin gyour own business?
[05:18] <intelikey> 12g for / is 2X plenty    2g for swap is a waste of 2g  but hey it's your disk and you have plenty of it.
[05:18] <matthew1429> do you think intelikey?
[05:19] <intelikey> yep
[05:19] <K-Ryan> Oh yeah now I remember
[05:19] <matthew1429> because I assumed /var and /usr would go with my /
[05:19] <K-Ryan> rule of thumb is 2 times your RAM
[05:19] <matthew1429> partition
[05:19] <K-Ryan> up to 500MB
[05:19] <intelikey> yes.  and 6g is large for / - /home
[05:19] <matthew1429> I'm used to windows :D
[05:20] <Dr_willis> matthew1429,  i doubt it it matters much. you can get by with just / and a swap partition.
[05:20] <intelikey> excuse me.  you can get by without any partitions.
[05:20] <intelikey> 0 none  nada
[05:20] <Dr_willis> heck - ya can get buy with out an pc...
[05:20] <Dr_willis> none nada
[05:20] <Dr_willis> who needs pc's!
[05:20] <matthew1429> does swap have to be on first partition?
[05:21] <intelikey> no
[05:21] <K-Ryan> hey uhh, i cant play anything in frostwire
[05:21] <matthew1429> okay
[05:21] <matthew1429> thanks guys!
[05:21] <Dr_willis> swap can be on any drivesm you can even make  swap files if ya wanted.
[05:21] <surgy_> firefox keeps closing on its own
[05:22] <archangel_> linuxiso.org is down
[05:22] <K-Ryan> surgy_ you on a different computer or something?
[05:22] <surgy_> why do you ask?
[05:22] <intelikey> and if disk space was cramped a swap file would be better than a swap partition... easily resizable.
[05:22] <K-Ryan> you have a _ after your name =P
[05:22] <surgy_> sorry
[05:22] <K-Ryan> I don't care, just curious =P
[05:22] <surgy_> seams like someone is using my regular nick
[05:23] <K-Ryan> i dont see 'em in the user list
[05:23] <intelikey> yep and it's you.
[05:23] <intelikey> | surgy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Network
[05:23] <intelikey> | surgy_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Network
[05:23] <surgy_> lol
[05:25] <intelikey> other client is in   | channels : #linuxgames
[05:25] <K-Ryan> there's a channel for that!?
[05:25] <surgy_> yeah
[05:26] <Dr_willis> Its his evil twin.
[05:26] <intelikey> i guess so.
[05:26] <intelikey> :)
[05:27] <surgy_> intelikey im not registered yet
[05:27] <intelikey> surgy_ no  you have dual connections to the same server.  that's not the normal way to be in multiple channels.
[05:28] <intelikey> you just type /join #newchannel
[05:28] <surgy_> intelikey: on accident, i just chose both channels when konversation started and it did it that way
[05:28] <surgy_> and its two servers not channels one is freenode one is ubuntu
[05:28] <intelikey> did you list the server twice ?
[05:29] <intelikey> the ubuntu server is freenode
[05:29] <surgy_> no ubuntu was defualt ill fix that now
[05:30] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i go for help if i want to install mac os with ubuntu onto my desktop computer, is there a channel?
[05:30] <K-Ryan> !mac
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <K-Ryan> !apple
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[05:30] <manchicken> ubotu: Apple is evil.
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Will he remember that?
[05:31] <K-Ryan> !apple
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Aww man
[05:31] <Balsamic_Chicken> why is apple evil..
[05:31] <manchicken> It goes to the ubuntu-ops people for review ^_^
[05:31] <frenris> ...
[05:31] <K-Ryan> Haha!
[05:31] <manchicken> Balsamic_Chicken: Ask me in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <K-Ryan> manchicken feel like helping me out with C++ some more? =)
[05:32] <manchicken> K-Ryan: What you working on?
[05:32] <manchicken> I just submitted another adept patch.
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Nothing, no inspiration
[05:32] <ForgeAus> Kmenu is weird, it doesn't put terminal modes/apps in the terminal place (although there is a terminal panel/icon/menu you can enable, but it doesn't put debian nor X apps in their place... theres a util to add an emulation option and one for gnome apps
[05:32] <K-Ryan> Nor do I really know what's what yet
[05:32] <intelikey> well there are ##apple and ##mac  take your pick
[05:32] <ForgeAus> but it doesn't seem to put things wehre they go!
[05:33] <Balsamic_Chicken> intelikey thx
[05:33] <ForgeAus> terminal sessions menu would be the kind of thing I'd expect the K-menu terminal item should mirror!
[05:33] <intelikey> or try both  they don't look very busy
[05:33] <K-Ryan> manchicken could you help me assemble perhaps a calculator script?
[05:33] <K-Ryan> just for experience and the like
[05:34] <manchicken> K-Ryan: C++ programs aren't scripts.  They're compiled native binary programs.