[01:24] <puff`> When I ssh into my debian box via Xfce terminal, the font colors sometimes get wacky... right now the text I'm typing is black (nearly inviisble on the near-black background) while the irc daemon messages are blue.  Sometimes this corrects itself, other times it doens't  Anybody have a clue what's going on here and how to fix it?
[01:26] <len_1304> puff, my only thought is what is the background colour on your debian box?
[01:27] <len_1304> If it is white that would make sense.
[01:28] <len_1304> You can set the colours of your local terminal to match (black on white)
[01:28] <puff> len_1304: Pretty sure the debian box is set to defaults.
[01:29] <len_1304> puff, I wouldn't know what the defaults are, also the irc client might have different colour setup too
[01:30] <puff> len_1304: Yeah, certainly... I should clarify that sometimes it doesn't dothis, and all the colors are fine, etc.  This is a relatively recent and intermitten problem.
[01:30] <David-A> puff: you ssh in a terminal only or with remote X11 (-Y)?
[01:30] <puff> David-A: terminal only.
[01:31] <len_1304> terminal should be excape sequence colours, maybe missing characters?
[01:32] <David-A> puff: commands like ls --color and grep --color temporarly change color attributes in the terminal, but (almost) always restore normal colors when done.
[01:33] <David-A> puff: there may also be Msg of the Day that produce colours, or other commands. if terminated in an uncontrolled way, the terminal colours may be in a strange state.
[01:35] <len_1304> try esc c
[01:36] <puff> David-A: Well, dang.  It just happened again... somewhere in my switching around (running screen, have emacs, mutt, and another emacs running the erc irc-client) all of a sudden the primary font color started being white.
[01:36] <puff> So for now my problem is fixed, but I wish I understood why it happened, and couldthen either prevent it from happening, or know how to fi xit.
[01:37] <puff> Hm...
[01:37] <len_1304> puff, esc c is supposed to be Reset to initial state
[01:38] <puff> Okay, even if I open a new terminal and ssh in and do screen detach and resume, the font stays white... which argues somewhat strongly that this is something going on with debian (or possibly screen), not xubuntu.
[01:38] <puff> Weird and crazy-making.
[01:38] <len_1304> For that matter the xfce-terminal has a terminal tab with a reset button.
[01:39] <len_1304> This probably clears the screen
[01:39] <len_1304> (as well)
[01:41] <17SACMW4U> wtf, how did my nick get set to this?
[01:41] <Gumby> !ping
[01:41] <alber> hi!
[02:10] <xubuntu344> Boa noite, Good night
[02:16] <gmag> boa noite
[02:17] <gmag> fui
[03:24] <wayne_> guys anyone have problems with gvfsbackends ? it wont show any networks
[03:25] <wayne_> ive got gvfs-backends and deps installed and also firewall is disbaled
[03:33] <Tzinex> hello
[03:34] <`-_-`> hi
[03:34] <Tzinex> How did you find out about Xubuntu?
[03:38] <David-A> distro hopping, more or less
[05:49] <ash__> i just finished downloading Xubutnu torrent file... when i just extracted the files... I can't find .exe file or .. so called any installing file...
[05:49] <ash__> help me
[05:50] <`-_-`> ISO is not for extracting
[05:50] <ash__> so i have to just burn it into a CD?
[05:51] <`-_-`> burn it as a disk image or use this to "burn it to USB thumbdrive: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[05:51] <ash__> ohh thanks alot..
[05:51] <`-_-`> and then boot the computer from the disk (you may have to adjust the boot option in the BIOS so it wont boot windows first)
[08:51] <Jeasonl> 大家好!为了把上网本接电视放电影 系统从ubuntu换到kubuntu今天又在换xubuntu
[08:51] <Jeasonl> 真是郁闷
[08:55] <`-_-`> Jeasonl, try #ubuntu-cn or #ubuntu-jp
[08:56] <`-_-`> 很抱歉聽到這個消息
[09:00] <`-_-`> 你有沒有嘗試過UbuntuTV或 Mythbuntu?
[09:01] <knome> english only please
[09:01] <`-_-`>
[09:15] <Jeasonl> sorry 刚走开了下
[09:17] <TheSheep> !cn | Jeasonl
[09:21] <Jeasonl> thanks~!
[10:02] <nm101010101> hey dudes
[10:02] <nm101010101> im trying to install a usb wifi card on my xubuntu desktop - does anyone know how to do this?
[10:04] <koegs> nm101010101: which card? just stick it in and look at lsusb and dmesg
[10:04] <nm101010101> its a TL-WN723N
[10:05] <nm101010101> lsusb says its 'Realtek semiconductor corp'
[10:07] <nm101010101> koegs: dmesg says a lot of things, is there something i can grep to find the important line(s)
[10:10] <nm101010101> i followed this guide: http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/5413 but after putting the bin in that folder, there is still no wireless interface
[10:18] <nm101010101> hmmm.... there is no wlan0
[10:24] <nm101010101> lsusb says its 'Realtek semiconductor corp' and 'couldnt open device, some information will be missing'
[10:48] <nm101010101> ah rad
[10:48] <nm101010101> so the driver i installed is the wrong one....
[10:49] <nm101010101> and here http://www.wireless-driver.com/?s=WN723N says that there exists no Version 3 driver for linux
[10:49] <nm101010101> what's the next step? is there some way to convert the windows driver into a linux version?
[11:16] <_genuser_> man this xubuntu alternate CD is really not working.
[11:16] <_genuser_> it fails right before grub install.
[11:17] <_genuser_> now, is there a way to install grub manually using the virtual term 2?
[11:27] <wariosuperstar> Hello, is this a place where I can get help with Xubuntu? Recently, I installed Ubuntu on an old laptop of mine, but it worked too slow. It was because my computer hadn't enough memory. So I installed the Xubuntu packages and removed the Ubuntu packages and turned my system into Xubuntu (version 12.04 to be exact). Since version 12.10 is the latest version, I updated Xubuntu to that version, however after the update, Xubuntu
[11:27] <koegs> wariosuperstar: your message is cut after "... update, Xubuntu"
[11:27] <koegs> messages on IRC are limited
[11:29] <wariosuperstar> My laptop won't boot properly after updating to 12.10. My laptop screen turns itself of and Xubuntu won't function.
[11:29] <wariosuperstar> My laptop does boot properly if I attach an extra monitor to my laptop.
[11:30] <wariosuperstar> How can I make Xubuntu load properly without constantly plugging in an additional monitor.
[11:34] <ZiulBraz> bom dia
[11:35] <ZiulBraz> bom dia
[11:41] <xubuntu259> is there a way to make xubuntu turn off after 30mins of inactivity instead of sleep?
[11:42] <baizon> xubuntu259: yes?
[11:43] <xubuntu259> how can i do that?
[11:43] <baizon> xubuntu259: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=530973
[11:46] <_genuser_> ok, xubuntu alternate cd fails mid install. but after installing grub separately, it boots. but no X. somehow it still got the wifi stuff figured.
[11:46] <_genuser_> can someone point out where the wifi stuff is? and how to install xfce desktop?
[11:47] <baizon> _genuser_: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:48] <xubuntu259> baizon: cant register, they banned gmail
[11:48] <_genuser_> baizon: ok, it's asking for CD. I think I need to enable non CD repos. how would I enable those from cli?
[11:48] <xubuntu259> so i cant even look in there what the link shows
[11:49] <TheSheep> _genuser_: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <baizon> xubuntu259: http://forums.hexus.net/software/143266-ubuntu-auto-shut-down-idle.html
[11:50] <_genuser_> TheSheep: I see. But it only has deb cdrom entries. where would I find the URLs for the repos?
[11:51] <TheSheep> !sources
[11:52] <TheSheep> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[11:52] <_genuser_> TheSheep: thx. :)
[12:00] <_genuser_> hmmm, I think aptitude is kinda messed up.
[12:00] <_genuser_> on this install.
[12:01] <TheSheep> don't forget to do update after editing the sources
[12:01] <_genuser_> ok, I added http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe multiverse to the sources.list file.
[12:01] <_genuser_> then I ran sudo apt-get update, but it dropped out with an error.
[12:02] <TheSheep> what error?
[12:03] <_genuser_> running it again, to get the latest error, from sudo apt-get update.
[12:03] <_genuser_> hmm, it's just W's. it says duplicate sources entry. you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems.
[12:03] <_genuser_> so it should be alright, correct?
[12:03] <TheSheep> yes
[12:04] <_genuser_> ok, I removed the duplicates. let's see if it can install irssi now.
[12:05] <_genuser_> an interesting situation.
[12:05] <_genuser_> when running from livecd, it runs very fast from USB. But when installing the entire OS to a USB (including grub) it's very slooooow.
[12:07] <_genuser_> ok, sudo apt-get install irssi fails, saying depends: libperl5.14 but it is not going to be installed.
[12:17] <tomatopotato> any idea why my display does not show up after sleep, i mean its going to suspend and when trying to turn on the display is black
[12:24] <_genuser_> ok, somehow this system is in a b0rked state. some install such as irssi simply don't work. reporting errors taht stuff is missing like perl.
[12:24] <koegs> _genuser_: what did you actually install? which cd/iso did you use?
[12:25] <_genuser_> koegs: I used the alternate xubuntu. it failed at the "install grub" step. later selecting install grub from the menu wanted to always wanted to repartition the drive again and re-install everything.
[12:26] <_genuser_> koegs: I got the grub installed from cli finally. and rebooted. it boots into a vesa enabled console and even has the wifi stuff remembered from during install. but irssi install fails. not to mention xubuntu-desktop
[12:26] <tomatopotato> any idea why my display does not show up after sleep, i mean its going to suspend and when trying to turn on the display is black
[12:27] <_genuser_> tomatopotato: I have seen that before sometimes if the hardware sitautation changes. Example, you put it to sleep, then unplug ac adapter. But wake it before plugging back in the adapter. It's odd but it used to require a hard boot.
[12:27] <_genuser_> tomatopotato: it would do the same with usb wifi cards too.
[12:28] <tomatopotato> well it never worked
[12:28] <koegs> _genuser_: why did you use the alternate?
[12:28] <tomatopotato> i just wonder if i can get it to work
[12:29] <_genuser_> koegs: I installed to a 16G usb drive and alternate said it takes 2G of install spaces. Leaving 14G for user apps. or user data.
[12:29] <_genuser_> koegs: alternate live cd on usb1. run thru install program, specify usb2 as target (skipping hard drive).
[12:30] <koegs> _genuser_: the alternate iso installs the same apps as the standard iso
[12:30] <tomatopotato> _genuser_:  do you think its the  nvidia driver?
[12:30] <koegs> so maybe you should just try the normal iso
[12:30] <_genuser_> tomatopotato: I didn't haev nvidia in that laptop and didn't have any specifically insatlled nvidia stuff.
[12:31] <_genuser_> koegs: ok, example: sudo apt-get install irssi says, following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:31] <koegs> _genuser_: check the image with md5sum or redownload it, this is not a "normal error" with xubuntu
[12:31] <_genuser_> koegs: depends: perl-base (=5.14.2-6ubuntu2) but 5.14.2-6ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[12:32] <_genuser_> koegs: hmm, I used it on a couple of vmware machines and it worked fine.
[12:33] <_genuser_> but I suppose I should just use a regular amd64 instead of alternate. It will only take 2.4 more gigs.
[12:36] <koegs> _genuser_: either that or check the md5sum of the image on your stick, also maybe change the servers to archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <_genuser_> koegs: well, updating the servers, hoping it works.
[12:51] <ner0x> In regards to the the newest version of Ubuntu, has anyone had problems with setting keyboard shortcuts that include Alt+Shift+Letter?
[12:59] <_genuser_> is there a ways to not let the standard installer install grub?
[12:59] <_genuser_> it install it on the first harddrive by default. in the alternate it asks you.
[12:59] <GridCube> _genuser_, what seems to be the problem?
[13:03] <_genuser_> GridCube: I'm using the regular xubuntu amd64 iso to install. But I don't want it to install grub. which it just does automatically.
[13:07] <koegs> it will ask you if you want to install grub
[13:09] <_genuser_> hmm, ok that was one of the problems that made me install alternate. hopefully, it will work with this one.
[13:15] <GridCube> _genuser_, it should ask you
[13:16] <_genuser_> 'coz you know if it deletes my windows 8, heads will roll!
[13:17] <_genuser_> I mean, it would be fine I suppose if there's a grub on the sda with xubuntu entries that only work then the stick is in.
[13:18] <_genuser_> another interseting thing: when running the "livecd" from usb, it works very fast.
[13:18] <_genuser_> when installing the OS to a usb and running that, it's really slow.
[13:18] <_genuser_> any ideas why that might be?
[13:22] <Inoki> Yo lads, can anyone tell me where are the settings for the mouse pointer stored, in which file?
[13:25] <ochosi> Inoki: in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/pointers.xml
[13:26] <GridCube> _genuser_, grub wont delete the entry to windows 8
[13:26] <Inoki> ochosi: thank you so much!
[13:27] <ochosi> np
[13:28] <contexto> hola ¿se puede instalar libreoffice en xubuntu?
[13:28] <knome> !es | contexto
[13:29] <Inoki> By settings values with the command xset m ACCELERATION THRESHOLD that goes globally for both the touchpad and mouse right?
[13:29] <contexto> ok  muchas gracias
[13:31] <koegs> _genuser_: the live-cd is loaded to the ram, the installation to usb is not
[13:54] <_genuser_> ok, went thru the install. it installed grub without asking.
[13:54] <_genuser_> lol, this is pretty annoying.
[14:04] <GridCube> _genuser_, whats the problem ? you can tell grub to boot windows 8 first and give it like 2 seconds clock
[14:04] <GridCube> then if you want to boot linux you do so, knowingly, or just let it trhough and boot windows
[14:04] <GridCube> dont really see the problem here
[14:07] <_genuser_> GridCube: just don't want grub on the main sda. why exactly? don't know just don't. but I don't think it's that big a problem for the installer to not have an option that not a lot of people use. I just have to figure out how to make the alternate cd work since it has the option.
[14:08] <ochosi> _genuser_: when setting up partitions there should be an option to install the bootloader on a different drive
[14:08] <ochosi> a rather smallish button in the left or right corner, don't remember the exact name and place though
[14:08] <GridCube> your idea of "lot of people" is missplaced, however there should be an option, i havent done that in a while but there is
[14:09] <_genuser_> ok, I know there should. but I just went thru the install and it didn't ask me at all.
[14:11] <len_1304> if you use the something else option there is a big bar across the bottom for where to install grub.
[14:12] <ochosi> _genuser_: this is the intsaller from 12.10: http://i.stack.imgur.com/nLxrO.png (see "device for boot loader installation")
[14:12] <len_1304> I use it because I don't want the install to touch my main drive
[14:13] <_genuser_> ok, since I'm trying this in vmware before trying it on my main machine, the only difference I can think of is: the installer doesn't see multiple drives so doesn't bother me with the choices, whereas with multiple targets for grub, it would.
[14:14] <len_1304> In my opinion, the use whole disk option, _should_ have this as well. It is required for installing to a USB drive. As the USB drive is the default boot device when plugged in but not if not.
[14:15] <_genuser_> ochosi: I definitely remember this from before. I think it'd because the vmware only has one target is why it's not showing this screen.
[14:15] <ochosi> _genuser_: yeah, possible
[14:16] <_genuser_> :) only way to find out is to do it on the real target.
[14:17] <_genuser_> besides the most I'd have to do it to download some windows boot fixer to refix winboot. shouldn't be too hard. have done winboot thing in the past.
[18:15] <n-iCe> hi
[18:20] <Lucas___> hi
[18:21] <Lucas___> i'm in some trouble
[18:21] <Lucas___> anyone here ?
[18:24] <laite> !ask | Lucas___
[18:31] <Lucas___> ok ;)
[18:31] <Lucas___> i'm with my Lucid 10.04 LTS, and i want to upgrade
[18:32] <Lucas___> so i typed : do-release-upgrade
[18:32] <Lucas___> and got : Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.
[18:32] <Lucas___> any idea ?
[18:34] <Lucas___> (im gonna download the CD and upgrade with... but i think thats not good)
[18:35] <Lucas___> laite: :)
[18:59] <Peyam> Hi
[19:00] <Peyam> I try to make a shortcut in my main menu. I give the adress /usr/local/MATLAB/R2012a/bin/matlab. when it is created and I click on the shortcut Matlab comes up and disappear right away.. Anybody knows what is that
[19:02] <bazhang> Peyam, please dont crosspost here.
[19:02] <Peyam> sorry?
[19:02] <bazhang> you're asking in #ubuntu at the same time
[19:02] <Peyam> well it is an xubuntu issue and you people here quite dead
[19:03] <n-iCe> that's true
[19:03] <n-iCe> haa
[19:03] <knome> crossposting is still not allowed
[19:04] <Peyam> answer so it will not happen
[19:04] <knome> please check your attitude; we're all volunteers here
[19:04] <bazhang> thats not the way it works Peyam
[19:04] <Peyam> crossposting is a good way to get help faster
[19:04] <bazhang> nope
[19:04] <Peyam> sorry then
[19:04] <bazhang> it is a good way to get removed from the channel
[19:05] <Peyam> bazhang why not you remove urself from this channel and you will just see me in #ubuntu channel ? :)
[19:06] <Peyam> Don't do that again please. it is insulting
[19:06] <bazhang> lets move on Peyam
[19:06] <knome> !guidelines | Peyam, please follow the guidelines and it won't happen again:
[19:06] <Peyam> lets move on
[19:06] <Peyam> doesn anybody know how I solve this problem.
[19:06] <Peyam> ?
[19:16] <webus> hi to all
[19:16] <webus> how can i delete all packages installed tomorrow ?
[19:20] <webus> sorry
[19:20] <Peyam> whay
[19:20] <Peyam> hahaha
[19:20] <webus> installed yesterday
[19:21] <webus> i'm installed libreoffice and may be libreoffice depend on some other packages. when screen on my netbook blink
[19:22] <webus> i want to rollback
[19:22] <webus> but many packages installed yesterday
[19:49] <user> Hello, I need some help installing a software
[19:50] <baizon> user: and the problem is?
[19:51] <user> I've looked around but I can't install via the tar.bz2 so I downloaded an older debian package and something is still not working :/
[19:51] <user> I'm new to Linux so I don't exactly understand what the terminal spits out
[19:53] <baizon> user: http://www.howtogeek.com/105413/how-to-compile-and-install-from-source-on-ubuntu/
[19:58] <user> When I get to the part that says to execute
[19:58] <user> ./configure
[19:58] <user> My terminal says: No suck file or directory
[19:59] <user> *such
[19:59] <user> I have read the readme and it says something about ant
[20:00] <user> Okay when I do the following it says
[20:00] <user> Unable to find a javac compiler
[20:06] <baizon> user: what program is it?
[20:06] <user> Webcamstudio
[20:06] <user> I am having the problem with a java compiler though I believe
[20:07] <baizon> user: there is a deb file
[20:07] <baizon> what happens when you try to install it?
[20:07] <user> The deb or source?
[20:08] <baizon> deb
[20:08] <baizon> you dont need to install from source
[20:08] <baizon> just install java
[20:08] <baizon> and run it with: "java WebcamStudio.jar"
[20:09] <user> I thought I did have java installed
[20:09] <user> How do I check?
[20:09] <baizon> java --version
[20:10] <user> Could not create the java cirtual machine
[20:10] <user> *virtual
[20:10] <user> Mayhbe
[20:10] <user> The enviromental path is wrong>
[20:10] <user> I am in
[20:10] <user> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-i386
[20:11] <user> I see stuff but maybe it did not fully install?
[20:11] <baizon> user: have you tried to run the jar file?
[20:12] <user> Where is the jar file located?
[20:12] <user> Okay I se one sec
[20:12] <baizon> in the webcamstudio folder?
[20:12] <baizon> run: java -jar WebcamStudio.jar
[20:13] <user> Unable to access jarfile Webcamstudio,jar
[20:17] <metals> hi... please help... my Drive C doesn't get mounted
[20:20] <bekks> metals: Do you still use Pinguy?
[20:22] <metals> :D yeah
[20:23] <metals> doesn't this happen on Ubuntu?
[20:24] <bekks> Doesnt matter, really - we just cant support your Pinguy.
[20:25] <metals> why?
[20:25] <metals> Pinguy people bite?
[20:25] <bekks> Because you already have been told in #ubuntu that we dont support Pinguy.
[20:26] <Unit193> metals: It isn't Xubuntu, go to #PinguyOS for support.
[20:26] <metals> there is no one there
[20:26] <metals> why don't ya believe me?
[20:27] <bekks> We do believe you - but we dont support you just because you cant reach the support of your OS.
[20:28] <metals> but I had the same problem with my Xubuntu last year
[20:29] <bekks> To shorten it up: we dont support Pinguy.
[20:43] <user> Okay, I got the splash screen to show up but then something goes wrong
[20:49] <recon_lap> might need a bit more to go on there user
[20:50] <user> Um
[20:50] <user> I could screenshot the terminal?
[20:51] <recon_lap> well, what happens after the splash screen shows up
[20:52] <recon_lap> user: you get to the terminal, do you log in?
[20:53] <user> Ah sorry you are a different person than I was speaking with earlier
[20:53] <user> I am trying to run WebcamStudio
[20:53] <user> The splash screen shows up but then nothing
[20:53] <recon_lap> user: does your web cam work in other software?
[20:54] <user> Yes
[20:55] <recon_lap> have you tried running webcamstudio from the cmd line?
[20:55] <recon_lap> to see if it give errors
[20:55] <user> Yes
[20:56] <recon_lap> and?
[20:56] <user> I am unsure of what they mean though
[20:56] <user> I'm new to Linux coming from Windows :$
[20:56] <recon_lap> pastebin them and give us the link
[20:57] <user> http://pastebin.com/AALu3jPX
[20:57] <user> Thank you for helping :)
[20:59] <recon_lap> ok, your java is not finding com.sun.jna package, so it needs to be installed or you need to set a class path
[21:00] <user> Erm :/ Could you provider an instruction to do that?
[21:02] <recon_lap> user: I'll have to see what i can find
[21:02] <user> Thank you!
[21:07] <recon_lap> user: check that you have libv4l  installed
[21:09] <user> I do have it instaled and they did not update
[21:10] <user> Ubuntu software updater is saying there are updates
[21:10] <user> Could that help?
[21:10] <recon_lap> probably, why wont they update?
[21:11] <user> When I tried to update libv4l via terminal i don't think there was an update. I just realized there were Ubuntu software updates so I am downloading those now
[21:23] <recon_lap> nice, works well for me here, how are you starting it? " java -jar WebcamStudio.jar" in the same dir as WebcamStudio ?
[21:24] <user> ccorrect
[21:25] <user> I open the terminal in /dist/
[21:25] <user> Then run " java -jar WebcamStudio.jar "
[21:26] <recon_lap> do 'ls WebcamStudio -l ' in that dir to see if it's there
[21:26] <user> Well
[21:26] <user> I did
[21:26] <recon_lap> of 'ls Webcam* -l'
[21:26] <user> 'ls WebcamStudio.jar -l'
[21:26] <recon_lap> or*
[21:27] <recon_lap> is the jar there?
[21:27] <user> Yes I think
[21:27] <user> It's the name in pink
[21:27] <user> and I am in that folder with the file manager
[21:27] <user> Thunar
[21:27] <user> And I right click, Open with Oracle java 7 runtime
[21:27] <user> And dstill crashes
[21:28] <recon_lap> should show -rwxrwxr-x 1 mec mec 6898001 Apr 30  2012 WebcamStudio.jar
[21:28] <user> -rw-rw-r-- 1 james james 6912494 Mar 25 16:35 WebcamStudio.jar
[21:29] <recon_lap> ok, first it need to be executable, chmod +x WebcamStudio.jar
[21:30] <user> Okay did that
[21:30] <recon_lap> java -jar WebcamStudio.jar
[21:30] <user> Still have problem
[21:30] <user> -rwxrwxr-x 1 james james 6912494 Mar 25 16:35 WebcamStudio.jar
[21:31] <recon_lap> apt-cache policy libv4l-0
[21:32] <xubuntu952> wewe
[21:32] <xubuntu952> mentre installo
[21:32] <xubuntu952> un saluto
[21:32] <knome> !it | xubuntu952
[21:32] <user> Did that same problem
[21:32] <recon_lap> user:  is libv4l-0 installed?
[21:33] <user> dpkg-query -W "libv4l-0"
[21:33] <user> ?
[21:34] <recon_lap> and is FFMPEG installed?
[21:34] <user> FFMPEG?
[21:34] <user> I saw that in the README but I thought it was windows only
[21:35] <user> Let me check if is installed :/
[21:35] <SunStar> prolly not
[21:36] <user> ah can't check when installing updates
[21:36] <user> one sec
[21:42] <recon_lap> dont seem to be able to get my webcam going in webcamstudio, must read more :)
[21:53] <user> Hey sorry something went wrong with internet
[21:53] <recon_lap> np, did you check for ffmpeg
[21:55] <user> I didn't have it.. I am installing right now. Sorry for stupidity D:
[21:57] <recon_lap> try this as well to see if you got gstreamer, ' gst-launch videotestsrc !autovideosink '
[21:58] <user> I will do that after FFMPEG is done
[21:59] <user> I am fairly certain I don't have gstreaner
[21:59] <user> I also have another question, the battery monitor does not display?
[21:59] <user> I have checked under power management and I have it to show all the tim
[21:59] <Inoki> user: You have to enable the other plugin for indicators.
[22:00] <user> What do you mean?
[22:00] <Inoki> user: if the indicator for batter doesn't show up under indicators in the tray enable the notification area plugin.
[22:00] <Inoki> battery*
[22:02] <user> Ah it was the notification area
[22:02] <user> Thank you!
[22:02] <Inoki> user: yw
[22:03] <user> Also, some updates failed when  I last tried a couple minutes ago and when I rebooted it said something about /tmp
[22:10] <user> Ahh! Same problem!
[22:11] <xubuntu282> aiuto
[22:11] <xubuntu282> aiutatemi
[22:11] <knome> xubuntu282, english please
[22:11] <recon_lap> user: so all those libs installed?
[22:11] <user> What do you mean?
[22:12] <recon_lap> user: g-streamer, v4l, ffmpeg
[22:12] <user> gst-launch videotestsrc !autovideosink
[22:12] <user> I just installed g-streamer
[22:12] <user> but i receive
[22:13] <user> bash: !autovideosink : event not found
[22:13] <recon_lap> user:  thats ok, same as me, what do you get for echo $PATH
[22:14] <user> /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games
[22:17] <recon_lap> ok, what version of webcamstudio did you install?
[22:18] <user> 0.61
[22:20] <recon_lap> I went with 0.60 alpha 1 364
[22:21] <user> I will try that
[22:24] <user> Worked! :D
[22:24] <user> Thanks a ton!
[22:25] <user> Do you have any experience with this software?
[22:26] <recon_lap> yep, the current alpha is only 2day old , I went for the older one :) , and no experience with webcamstudion, I did some poking around in v4l and java though
[22:28] <user> Ah
[22:32] <user> This can make a video file appear as a wecam correct?
[22:33] <recon_lap> user: looks that way from what I read, but dont know how.
[22:33] <user> yeah cant get it to work thru my desktop :/ no preview
[22:36] <recon_lap> user:  think you need to start a deamon to create a video source and a video sink device
[22:36] <user> How do I do that :o
[22:52] <recon_lap> user: https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/wiki/BasicDesign
[22:54] <user> That made very little
[22:54] <user> sense to  me :/
[22:56] <recon_lap> user: add a new source '/dev/video0
[22:57] <user> A new video file?
[22:58] <recon_lap> /dev/video0 should be your web cam, but add a video source to
[22:59] <user> I don't see a video0 directory in /dev
[23:00] <user> ohhh
[23:00] <user> its a file okay
[23:00] <user> I found video0 but now what?
[23:01] <recon_lap> use the + in wcs to open it
[23:01] <user> okay
[23:02] <recon_lap> i can get it to take pictures :)
[23:03] <user> How? :o I added video0 but when I click the play button it stays black
[23:04] <recon_lap> read what it says in the terminal
[23:05] <user> Cannot run ffmpeg
[23:06] <user> http://pastebin.com/YpY25mJ3
[23:09] <recon_lap> user: java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "ffmpeg": error=2, No such file or directory , a clue
[23:10] <user> Is FFMPEG not isntalled?
[23:10] <recon_lap> apt-cache policy ffmpeg
[23:11] <user> Weird I just installed it
[23:11] <user> What command was I supposed to use>
[23:12] <recon_lap> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[23:14] <user> Okay there
[23:14] <user> Is it supposed to take a pic or display video?
[23:16] <recon_lap> not sure :)
[23:16] <user> Alright thanks!
[23:17] <recon_lap> might be permission problem, are you a member of video group?
[23:17] <user> yup i am
[23:17] <user> I think so :o
[23:20] <recon_lap> and i think you only get a picture, open the desktop as a source
[23:22] <user> okay um
[23:22] <user> i opened a video file as source
[23:22] <user> and it plays now but how do i make it my webcam?
[23:23] <recon_lap> hmm, I'm geting video0 is too slow! Stopping stream...
[23:24] <user> Same
[23:24] <user> It works fine when i load a video file
[23:24] <recon_lap> user: think you need someone who knows wcs.
[23:24] <user> ah alright thanks
[23:24] <user> You've helped a lot though, thanks!
[23:25] <recon_lap> user: you probably need to tweek the ffmpeg setting, look at that link i gave earlier
[23:25] <user> okay i will book mark it!
[23:25] <user> i have to run now thoug
[23:25] <Barnabas> try running the prg with sudo (just to test)
[23:25] <user> okay i will real quick
[23:26] <Barnabas> dont use it as a sollution
[23:26] <Barnabas> permissions issues perhaps
[23:26] <recon_lap> user: what should happen is that you get a virtual webcam that you can select like any other
[23:27] <recon_lap> Barnabas: video0 is too slow! Stopping stream...  <- seems to be the issue
[23:27] <user> I am not getting the option on Skype :/
[23:28] <recon_lap> user: video0 is too slow! Stopping stream...  <- seems to be the issue
[23:28] <user> well
[23:28] <user> When I run the video file it works fine
[23:28] <user> Plays the whole thing without an error
[23:28] <recon_lap> user: how do you mean fine?
[23:29] <user> It plays the entire video
[23:29] <recon_lap> user: and if it's streaming a file it does not need to use video0
[23:29] <user> Yeah
[23:29] <user> I was just using that to see if it could stream my webcam
[23:30] <user> I can play the video but I don't get the option in Skype
[23:30] <user> I am only provided the hardware webcam
[23:30] <recon_lap> user: there should be a /home/james/.webcamstudio dir with configurations for vedio0
[23:30] <recon_lap> video0
[23:31] <recon_lap> and try usnig cheeze , no telling what Skype is doing
[23:31] <user> Can cheeze stream a video source?
[23:31] <user> wait
[23:32] <user> Skype should be showing the other webcam source
[23:32] <user> Correct?
[23:32] <recon_lap> no telling what Skype is doing
[23:32] <user> Yes but
[23:32] <user> all i have done is add the source to wcs
[23:32] <user> i have not done anything else and i think i am skipping a step
[23:33] <user> i have not messed with the entire left panel
[23:33] <recon_lap> did you add a channel and start it streaming?
[23:34] <user> how do i tell if it is streaming?
[23:34] <user> i click the play button but notthing happens
[23:34] <recon_lap> read the terminal
[23:36] <user> When I click the play button for channel the terminal does not say anything
[23:39] <recon_lap> well, I'm running out of ideas. beta software can be a pain though.
[23:39] <user> I've been looking for days. Do you know of any other software that can use a video source as a virtual webcam?


[19:00] <utkarsh2102> \o
[19:01] <utkarsh2102> I don't see anything on the agenda
[19:01] <kanashiro> o/
[19:02] <seb128> hey there, sorry but I'm still busy with evening things and will be at the computer only in ~10min
[19:02] <seb128> Andy was supposed to be on the agenda for tonight according to the list archives but he was edited out of the wiki?
[19:02] <utkarsh2102> rbasak, bdmurray, kanashiro, seb128, sil2100, teward: mind if we skip?
[19:02] <seb128> +1 for skipping since ^
[19:03] <utkarsh2102> seb128: he withdrew the application as he's not interested in pursuing core-dev anymore
[19:03] <seb128> just checking that that was not a mistake
[19:03] <seb128> hum, ok, I didn't see his follow up and shame :(
[19:03] <utkarsh2102> he communicated that internally to me and I dropped him from the agenda
[19:03] <utkarsh2102> the reason wasn't mine to speak so I let it be :)
[19:03] <seb128> ah ok, thanks for the context
[19:03] <seb128> anyway I'm fine skipping
[19:04] <seb128> I be to step away for 10min or so now anyway
[19:04] <utkarsh2102> great, if there's no AOB then let's skip
[19:04] <seb128> +1
[19:04] <seb128> thx :)
[19:04] <kanashiro> +1
[19:05] <rbasak> o/
[19:06] <bdmurray> sorry I was reading so yes skipping is fine
[19:12] <utkarsh2102> perfect
[19:12] <utkarsh2102> by the power vested in me, I now pronounce this meeting skipped
[19:12] <utkarsh2102> see y'all next to next week o/
[21:52] <teward> no issues with skipping.  been busy today


[03:22] <marcoibs> hi
 i want to propose lubuntu to my friend ... what package should be installed? He is on ubuntu 20.04 desktop
[09:51] <guiverc> You can add the Lubuntu desktop to an existing install via `sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop`, but it's not without some costs (more complicated menus, more bandwidth used for backups, install etc as you've the original desktop & Lubuntu's LXQt desktop both present.  You select which you want to use at login
 guiverc: more bandwidth used for backups, what backups ?
[09:59] <guiverc> sorry that was the wrong word, bandwidth used for upgrades, install on disk etc
[10:00] <guiverc> you'll get upgrades for both desktops, both desktop's programs,  if it's GNOME & LXQt, you'll have two editors (gedit for gnome, featherpad for LXQt etc... both appear in menus, both get upgrades etc, multiplied by each like program...
 got it, well explained... thanks guiverc
[10:05] <guiverc> you're most welcome
 because the box is slow using the current ubuntu, i hope he will give lubuntu a shot. … I hope he will get good experience using the new desktop env... how to make the transition smooth to the new habit?
[10:10] <guiverc> if the box has limited RAM, a negative of the two desktops is programs for GNOME are GTK3 based, and using them when using Lubuntu/LXQt is they won't use libraries used by desktop, but use more memory loading them into RAM.  On my box with 8gb of ram I don't worry (and mine is a box from 2009), but on a newer box with far less memory I consider that.  If 'slow' is because of limited amount of ram, and a non-technical user, two desktops can be a
[10:10] <guiverc> negative/complexity
[10:11] <guiverc> (I use a 2005 thinkpad with lubuntu 18.04, it has multiple desktops too, XFCE (Xubuntu) & LXDE (Lubuntu) for example, but I'm aware of programs & what they'll use, so select before I load as that laptop only has 1.5gb of ram)
[10:13] <guiverc> Yes, the Lubuntu desktop is far lighter, performs far faster on most machines (I wouldn't try a modern GNOME on an old pentium 4 I have, but it ran Lubuntu 19.04/10 fine)
 https://www.asus.com/Laptops/X455LA/ with 2 gig ram only
[10:21] <guiverc> I'm too tried to think clearly, the best experience would be re-install (so no duplication of programs, wasted ram due to selecting app intended for wrong desktop), you can re-install using manual-partition, & no-format of partitions to not lose data, but still a hassle...
[10:22] <guiverc> if you look at https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/lubuntu-desktop you'll see a list of programs installed & used by lubuntu, those will be efficient, you could compare with ubuntu-desktop to see what won't be efficient when using lubuntu...
[10:23] <guiverc> my system has 3 desktops installed; but from menu I can only pick which belongs with which desktop because I generally already know them...
[10:24] <guiverc> (https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/ubuntu-desktop is the equiv. for default ubuntu/gnome desktop for focal/20.04)
[10:25]  * guiverc is really too tired to give clear advice sorry; why I messed up download/upgrade with backup before
 no worries, i see your points