[10:54] <Fallen> Hey folks, following up on above. Is someone available to talk about packaging this week? I'd really like to chat before the sync.


[13:27] <Keybuk> hurrah
[13:27] <Keybuk> I think I've eeked out all the ptrace race conditions now
[14:01] <Keybuk> except it now doesn't work on amd64
[14:01] <Keybuk> *sigh*
[14:12] <Keybuk> ah, that was just a difference-in-size problem
[14:12] <Keybuk> sizeof (pid_t) < sizeof (unsigned long) on amd64
[19:55] <Keybuk> wait for stop
[19:55] <Keybuk> script
[19:55] <Keybuk>         echo initialising
[19:55] <Keybuk>         sleep 5
[19:55] <Keybuk>         echo yielding
[19:55] <Keybuk>         kill -STOP $$
[19:56] <Keybuk>         echo running
[19:56] <Keybuk>         exec sleep inf
[19:56] <Keybuk> end script
[19:56] <Keybuk> --
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 test-wait (#0) goal changed from stop to start
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 test-wait (#0) state changed from waiting to starting
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 event_new: Pending starting event
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 Handling starting event
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 event_finished: Finished starting event
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 test-wait (#0) state changed from starting to pre-start
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 test-wait (#0) state changed from pre-start to spawned
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 process_spawn: Spawned process 415 for test-wait (#0)
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:32 Active test-wait (#0) main process (415)
[19:56] <Keybuk> yielding
[19:56] <Keybuk> running
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:37 test-wait (#0) state changed from spawned to post-start
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:37 test-wait (#0) state changed from post-start to running
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:37 event_new: Pending started event
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:37 Handling started event
[19:56] <Keybuk> Dec 02 19:55:37 event_finished: Finished started event
[19:56] <Keybuk> --
[19:56] <Keybuk> \o/
[19:56] <Keybuk> (note hanging around in spawned for the process to raise SIGSTOP -- matching "wait for stop")
[20:33] <ion_> Neat!


[07:47] <Brad_> fabbione: I put in a brief thanks to you and david in jonathan's blog: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan?entry=ubuntu_on_niagara_and_platinum
[08:43] <tmarble> http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/webmink?entry=ultrasparc_t1_support_in_linux
[09:16] <Brad_> yup.. t1's and linux are getting a bit of press.. cool stuff.
[09:16] <Brad_> I need to find a hardware designer at sun to have a little chat with them about their choice of windtunnels, er.. fans.
[10:21] <fabbione> thanks guys
[10:26] <fabbione> Brad_: :)
[10:32] <tmarble> yeah... fabbione and discussed that... kind of hurts the desktop appeal ;-)
[10:33] <fabbione> tmarble: ?
[10:34] <tmarble> you know.. your T2000, 16 display Xinerama, higher productivity workstation (until the Ubuntu brain implant is available ;-)
[10:35] <fabbione> hhehe
[10:35] <fabbione> yeah
[10:38] <tmarble> you'll be glad to know I did do a successful install based on the (final) boot.img ...
[10:38] <fabbione> eheh nice
[10:39] <fabbione> Brad_: we also found the bug for our 8GB t2000
[10:39] <fabbione> the real bug
[10:39] <tmarble> but I'm wondering if it might be useful to have a more "minimal" boot.img -- you know that has just dpkg, coreutils, openssh-server (etc.)
[10:39] <fabbione> and we are discussing a fix
[10:39] <fabbione> tmarble: you want the server cd for that :)
[10:39] <fabbione> tmarble: otherwise you need to pass a long option to the tftp image
[10:39] <fabbione> but it works both ways
[10:41] <tmarble> hmmm... you mean an option to OBP?
[10:41] <tmarble> http://sunsolve2.central.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-9-48569-1
[10:41] <fabbione> no an option to boot net $option
[10:41] <tmarble> e.g.   ok boot net - install toms-minimal-system
[10:42] <fabbione> tmarble: exactly
[10:42] <fabbione> that url is not available from the outside of SUN
[10:42] <tmarble> arghhhh
[10:42] <tmarble> probably has a public equiv... hold on
[10:44] <tmarble> didn't find the args in question on ... http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/install/i386/ch04s05.html
[10:44] <fabbione> sure.. i am going to watch a movie and crash
[10:44] <fabbione> tmarble: ok hold on a sec
[10:44] <fabbione> it's not that simple :)
[10:45] <fabbione> {0} ok boot net base-installer/kernel/linux/extra-packages-2.6= pkgsel/install-pattern=~t^ubuntu-standard$ pkgsel/language-pack-patterns= pkgsel/install-language-support=false
[10:45] <fabbione> there
[10:45] <fabbione> note that's all in one line
[10:45] <fabbione> i wish it could have been done simpler..
[10:45] <fabbione> but not for dapper
[10:45] <fabbione> we will fix it for edgy
[10:45] <fabbione> anyway i am off for real
[10:46] <fabbione> take care guys
[10:46] <tmarble> ok.. have a nice evening (and a fun movie!)
[10:46] <tmarble> sorry, the doc above is apparently only available to Sun Support customers (I'll see if it's published anywhere else)
[10:47] <fabbione> tmarble: ok thanks
[11:01] <Brad_> fabbione: I'm interested to see the new fix
[11:02] <fabbione> Brad_: it's unlike we will see the code of the fix. It's a bug in the OBP on it handles the e1000 in the t2000 in netboot. The bug did never show up booting from CD and there are other interesting patterns like ethernet frames in that portion of RAM that is "corrupted"
[11:02] <fabbione> but anyway..
[11:02] <fabbione> movie
[11:02] <fabbione> for real :)
[11:03] <Brad_> moooovie!
[11:03] <Brad_> sweet!  I love bugs like that.
[11:18] <fabbione> uhe ciao
[11:18] <fabbione> ops


[21:31] <bobweaver> In everyones HO  what is the best way to backup everything a tar ball then sent off to servers or dvd or what not? a zip file ? or some sort of gun ? I think that it is time for me to learn how to back up and use cron jobs (I think they are called ) to do this on a weekly base. What do all of you do for backup ? Just home folders ? thanks for your time.
[21:31] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: dpkg -L package gives you all the files of that package
[21:32] <sln45_> Go away, RealPlayer
[21:32] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: i only backup my folder and some modified configuration files
[21:32] <pdq> bobweaver, i use rsync to backup.
[21:32] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: my home folder that is
[21:32] <Soul_Sample> I'm having awful performance issues with dragging windows under 11.10 with nvidia proprietary drivers. compiz works fine, all effects are speedy and snappy (I don't have many enabled either way), but window dragging is unusable
[21:33] <riffautae> bobweaver: another vote for rsync, also check out rdiff
[21:33] <nemo> Soul_Sample: I had that issue due to window shadows.
[21:33] <nemo> when I disabled them, everything was fine
[21:33] <bobweaver> pdq:  Sh3r1ff  do you use cron jobs and tar then rsync ?
[21:33] <nemo> WAG, blur being done in software?
[21:33] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, you can search for the package in synaptic and rightclick->properties-> Installed files
[21:33] <Sh3r1ff> bobweaver: rsync, like already suggested ;)
[21:33] <jtr__> sln45_: bobweaver, sorry got disconnected
[21:33] <riffautae> bobweaver: rsync works best if its the first stage
[21:34] <RealPlayer> to do part time jop in net ..... see this .....http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:34] <Soul_Sample> nemo - what I find confusing is that the problem is not consistent, it goes away periodically
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat this is my packet list
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, rsync works wonderfully here :)
[21:34] <sln45_> jtr__: Nees me?
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat this is my packet list " http://paste.ubuntu.com/733592/ "
[21:34] <bobweaver> riffautae:  Sh3r1ff got any scripts that you would like to share :>) Please ...
[21:34] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat sorry
[21:34] <sln45_> RealPlayer: You can post that junk on gnome-look.org
[21:34] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, you dont really need much for rsync
[21:34] <sln45_> RealPlayer: This channel is not where it belongs
[21:35] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:35] <jtr__> sln45_: if you have some time off,  this will not be related to #ubuntu
[21:35] <bobweaver> I have a private server well a bunch of them  thanks MeQuerSat that is awesome of you :>)
[21:35] <sln45_> jtr__: What will not be related?
[21:35] <jtr__> no ops there to kick RealPlayer?
[21:35] <sln45_> jtr__: The RealPlayer stuff?
[21:35] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: for which package are you trying to find the configuration file?
[21:36] <jtr__> sln45_: the conversation , thats what i meant when i said - 'mind if i pm ' !
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I try find
[21:36] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: package?
[21:36] <bobweaver> You dont have to tar or anything this is flippin awesome !!!
[21:36] <riffautae> bobweaver: one idea is to write a script that reads directories in from a text file and rsyncs them to a remote server. just run the script often with cron
[21:36] <MeQuerSat> bobweaver, Im running a private server here at home too. Just got rsync up today, one click from my laptop and I have all my files backed up :o
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I am not try search packet, I need conf file location
[21:36] <sln45_> jtr__: I'm sorry, I'm still in class. You want my e-mail?
[21:36] <Hanmac> at gnome3 where can i change the default file manager? :(
[21:36] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: conf file of which application?
[21:36] <jtr__> sln45_: okay, pm
[21:36] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat archive mounter
[21:36] <riffautae> bobweaver: it also supports making diff backups and using hardlinks for unchanged files
[21:37] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, they will show the conf file of your application too ;)
[21:37] <sln45_> jtr__: Wait, what?
[21:37] <riffautae> bobweaver: that means restores are a simple [s]cp away
[21:37] <bobweaver> MeQuerSat:  riffautae you guys/girls/whatever are AWESOME
[21:37] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: use dpkg -L file-roller
[21:37] <jtr__> sln45_: gimme the email in a 'pm'/query , 'pm' = private msg
[21:37] <riffautae> bobweaver: it can also generate tar files and such. diffs or full. i use it on my minecraft server
[21:38] <sln45_> jtr__: I don't know how. Directions?
[21:38] <jtr__> sln45_: try right clicking on my nick, and see if you have a 'query' option
[21:38] <bobweaver> riffautae:  you are talking about alais in bashrc (script)on a cron  -> rsync->my server ?
[21:39] <riffautae> bobweaver: no just use crontab and tell it to run the script every day
[21:39]  * bobweaver is not that sure about cron time to google
[21:39] <RealPlayer> to win monay enter here <<<<http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:39] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat why I need archive mounter conf file ? Because If I use Archive Mounter , Archive mounter mount my ISO file our computer network side. I think problem fountain it is. If I change archive mounter mount point then everything working properly
[21:39] <RealPlayer> to win monay enter here <<<<http://www.earnparttimejobs.com/index.php?id=3744841
[21:39] <riffautae> !cron | bobweaver
[21:40] <Sh3r1ff> ErtanERBEK: you lost me, weren't you looking to find a configuration file?
[21:40] <Rya_n> Can someone check out my thread?: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=331
[21:40] <gabriella> ciao
[21:40] <Rya_n> Wrong link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878356
[21:40] <gabriella> !lista
[21:40] <Neldogz> is there a Linux command line equivalent of the Windows Robocopy /MIR ?
[21:40] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat and Archive Mounter not a packet I think it is only expansion packet
[21:40] <MeQuerSat> Can someone ban RealPlayer ?
[21:40] <ikonia> it's done
[21:40] <riffautae> Rya_n: which one? i think you sent the wrong link
[21:41] <Rya_n> This one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1878356
[21:41] <zenmaster> Whats up guys.
[21:41] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat for natilus
[21:41] <guntbert> zenmaster:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:41] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat and sorry my bad englis
[21:41] <zenmaster> So I am trying to get my Team Fotress 2 server up. And I think one of my compiler libraries might be out of date.
[21:41] <gabriella> how can i do for descarg file???
[21:41] <zenmaster> guntbert: Yes please allow me the time to type it.
[21:41] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: let me understand what it is that you want, no its not the english dear
[21:41] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: use a live cd to change grub config
[21:42] <zenmaster> guntbert: Since you were so quick to jump? My question is, how does one go about updating GLIBC? Or in this case EGLIBC.
[21:42] <Rya_n> what about my second qestion?
[21:42] <riffautae> Rya_n: yes grub is installed on the windows hdd, you can install it on the ubuntu hdd or leave it as is and use escape to bring up grub but keep it hidden otherwise
[21:42] <ikonia> zenmaster you don't update glibc - it's critical not to
[21:42] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: and grub is installed in your master boot record
[21:42] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat I want mount my ISO file in computer side with archive mounter
[21:42] <gabriella> sorry for my english i want to how to share films
[21:42] <zenmaster> ikonia: So I did this "apt-get install build essential".
[21:42] <Rya_n> sh3r1ff: My MBR is on my Windows hard drive, right?
[21:42] <ikonia> zenmaster that's just installing compiler tools, nothing to do with glibc
[21:42] <riffautae> gabriella: piracy or stream to a nother comp?
[21:43] <zenmaster> ikonia: According to the Team Fortress 2 wiki, I need GLIBC version at least 2.3.2
[21:43] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: that depends of how the disks are connected, but it could be yes
[21:43] <ikonia> zenmaster: ok ? and ?
[21:43] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: but that is no problem for windows if it is
[21:43] <zenmaster> I recently installed Ubuntu server 11.10 and when I did a version check, mine was older then that.
[21:43] <gabriella>  the last films . how do MIRC in windows...
[21:43] <dide> ciao per chi usa emesene  e non si connette ho trovto questo articolo dove spiega il motivo  http://infoliveone.altervista.org/emesene-off-line/
[21:43] <ikonia> zenmaster ok - so you can't use it then
[21:43] <Rya_n> How do I make it so GRUB only comes up when I choose my Ubuntu hard drive in the BIOS?
[21:43] <zenmaster> ikonia: And would be were you gave me a positive lead in how to fix this situation.
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster you can't - you don't update glibc
[21:44] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: that is not what bios is for
[21:44] <pangolin> gabriella: we do not provide support for illegal activities.
[21:44] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:44] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat Archive mounter mount my ISO file network side now so VLC player can't found video file and totem player time bar not working
[21:44] <Sh3r1ff> Rya_n: you'll have to choose it with grub
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: only install grub on that HD
[21:44] <zenmaster> ikonia: So what you are telling me is that there are no TF2 servers running on Ubuntu server 11.10 in the world right now?
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster: if software is not backward compatible, that is the software issue, you contact the software vendor and ask them to fix it for backwards compatability
[21:44] <riffautae> gabriella: if you are talking about illegal file sharing that is off topic, if you just want dcc or something for irc try xchat or irssi
[21:44] <jtr__> ErtanERBEK: i see
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: if you have a windows HD and a linux HD, just install grub on the linux one. no problem
[21:44] <ikonia> zenmaster if it requires a version of glibc that is not shipped with ubuntu, yes
[21:44] <Rya_n> nemo: I thought I did....
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: I do that myself.
[21:44] <Neldogz> anyone familiar with rsync? is there a tool better than that to mirror data to a directory or drive?
[21:44] <nemo> Rya_n: not that I ever *use* the windows HD
[21:44] <zenmaster> ikonia: Thank you that is all that I was asking.
[21:45] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:45] <zenmaster> ikonia: A definite answer. :)
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: if it is showing up for both you accidentally installed it on both then ;)
[21:45] <gabriella> ok..... so if want to see the last view ???? i can't????
[21:45] <riffautae> Neldogz: rsync is very good at that
[21:45] <zenmaster> ikonia: How ever I don't believe it and will continue my reasearch.
[21:45] <riffautae> gabriella: sorry, what do you mean by 'last view'
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: just boot into windows. there are windows boot loader reinstallers for windows
[21:45] <Rya_n> nemo: When I was installing Ubuntu, I only chose the separate HD.
[21:45] <nemo> Rya_n: if you really want that...
[21:45] <Neldogz> excellent, thank you riffautae
[21:45] <riffautae> Neldogz: i think the archive option is what you want
[21:45] <ikonia> zenmaster waste your time and damage your machine then, don't come asking for help if you don't want the answer
[21:45] <sumpter> I'm trying to install Neverwinter Nights 1 but I need to know the cdrom directory, I can't seem to find it
[21:46] <riffautae> Neldogz: saves file permissions, ownership and so on
[21:46] <nemo> Rya_n: the other possibility is you aren't actually picking the right HD, or maybe the bootloader is misssing on the windows HD so it is failing over to the ubuntu one
[21:46] <nemo> *shrug*
[21:46] <carlo> ciao a tutti
[21:46] <carlo> !list
[21:46] <Neldogz> i really appreciate your help, thank you riffautae
[21:46] <gabriella> for example the films first view
[21:46] <Rya_n> nemo: If I boot into Ubuntu, uninstall GRUB, will my Windows still boot?
[21:47] <EvilResistance> Rya_n:  if you want to keep ubuntu too, then no
[21:47] <sln45_> jtr__: I saw nothing about "query." How about I just give you my e-mail? Are these logged for a long time?
[21:47] <pangolin> gabriella:this is not a file sharing channel.
[21:47] <sumpter> I'm trying to install Neverwinter Nights 1 but I need to know the cdrom directory, I can't seem to find it
[21:47] <riffautae> gabriella: the main menu such as on a dvd? i dont think the built in media player supports dvd menus
[21:47] <zenmaster> ikonia: Where did that come from? This is a hobby for me obviously. As I am talking about a game server. And to me learning is not wasting time. I just fail to believe in a operating system so popular would have such a huge disadvantage to such a popular game...
[21:47] <sumpter> anyone know where that is?
[21:47] <EvilResistance> Rya_n:  GRUB is necessary to pick between opeorating systems.  Depending on where GRUB installed to, you might not be able to uninstall grub cleanly
[21:47] <riffautae> gabriella: try mplayer or vlc
[21:47] <jtr__> i'll send u a private message , see when it pops up
[21:47] <nemo> Rya_n: no
[21:47] <zenmaster> But I understand. I'm not a Linux guy. I'm more of a Unix person myself.
[21:47] <sumpter> I tried /media/cdrom, but it didn't work
[21:47] <nemo> Rya_n: that's a baaaad thing to do
[21:47] <zenmaster> Now let me get the last laugh.
[21:48] <zenmaster> Have a great day.
[21:48] <ikonia> zenmaster again if you don't want to know/accept the answer, why bother asking, just keep researching/wasting your time on how to wreck your machine
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: you need to reinstall the windows bootloader. just boot into windows
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: grub should already have a boot entry for windows
[21:48] <hammommah> hello all :) how are we this ,morning? quick questions i was copying my media from fat to ext4 and drive filled up woopsie... so i cleared some room and i want to continue from where i left off. whats my best option? lots of folders so i dont know ecaxtly where it was up too... is there a sync function to sync both drives or folders?
[21:48] <sumpter> how do I find out where my cdrom drive is?
[21:48] <sumpter> the directory i mean
[21:48] <nemo> Rya_n: oh. I just thought of another possibility. if you are really noob, maybe you installed ubuntu on the windows HD :)
[21:48] <riffautae> hammommah: rsync can mirror dirs and will resume safely
[21:48] <jtr__> sln45_: got my message ?
[21:48] <Rya_n> nemo: It does, but the thing is I set its timeout to 0 thinking I could then just choose the Ubuntu hard drive from bios to boot... and no I didn't install it on windows, lol.
[21:49] <princej88> Hi, I just did a new ubuntu installation on my desktop and I was trying to isntall fglrx drivers and it tells me it can't install and to check jockey.log
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: oh. no problem
[21:49] <Sh3r1ff> sumpter: cat /etc/fstab
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: you can change the timeout from inside ubuntu
[21:49] <sln45_> jtr__: No. I wouldn't know how to check it
[21:49] <sumpter> thanks
[21:49] <princej88> I couldn't find anything that I could understand in there. any help?
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: /etc/default/grub
[21:49] <hammommah> riffautae, whats the syntax for rsysnc or will i ask google :)
[21:49] <Rya_n> nemo: I can't boot into Ubuntu, lol.
[21:49] <nemo> Rya_n: ??? why?
[21:49] <ErtanERBEK> sumpter, check /media
[21:49] <ErtanERBEK> sumpter, If you mount any media then you can check /media
[21:49] <jtr__> sln45_: look for the list of channels , it should be right there ( it'll bear my nick )
[21:50] <Rya_n> nemo: It doesn't boot if I just choose the Ubuntu hard drive. It's dependant on GRUB that seems to be on my Windows harddrive.
[21:50] <sumpter> it won't work
[21:50] <riffautae> hammommah: its a little finikey i would suggest looking for a simple tutorial. the wiki has a really basic one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:50] <sumpter> it needs the device
[21:50] <sumpter> as in the actual drive
[21:50] <Rya_n> nemo: And I set GRUB timeout to 0, and Windows as default boot. lol
[21:50] <sln45_> jtr__: I don't know how to do that and my battery is dying
[21:51] <jtr__> sln45_: gimme your email, mine is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:51] <nemo> Rya_n: you can set grub up again from an ubuntu CD. no big deal
[21:51] <sumpter> @Sh3r1ff thanks that worked
[21:51] <Rya_n> nemo: yeah, I know. I'll have to burn one. But can't I freeze grub somehow? I tried holding SHIFT on boot, but nothing happened.
[21:52] <Sh3r1ff> sumpter: np
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: if you're fast enough, any keystroke should freeze it
[21:52] <nemo> but 0s is 0s
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: that's just silly
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: even on systems where I know they'll never use the grub menu, I still just set it to 1s
[21:52] <riffautae> i just noticed something on this wiki page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[21:52] <Neldogz> does anyone here know what to change in grub so that while ubuntu is booting we can see services turning on and checks etc with an OK or fail status?
[21:52] <nemo> Rya_n: gotta say, you kinda deserve this one :-p
[21:52] <riffautae> they use sudo to copy files with rsync between files in the home dir, thats pretty odd
[21:52] <Iszak> Where would I go to talk about specific hardware/laptops that use Ubuntu?
[21:52] <nemo> Neldogz: edit the kernel boot line, and remove quiet and splash
[21:53] <carlo> ciao
[21:53] <Neldogz> nemo, I did that already and all i see is a purple screen while the machine is booting.. so then i went ahead and added noquiet and nosplash and same thing
[21:53] <Rya_n> nemo: For some reason I thought choosing a completely separate Hard drive when isntalling Ubuntu, my Windows hard drive would be unaffected.
[21:53] <riffautae> Iszak: if you have problems or want info on which ones are supported you can ask here or try the forum
[21:53] <riffautae> !hcl
[21:53] <nemo> Neldogz: ehm. a bit skeptical there. if you really removed quiet and splash you should not see a purple screen
[21:53] <nemo> Neldogz: maybe you did it wrong
[21:54] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat do you have any idea or suggestin for my problem
[21:54] <Rya_n> nemo: If I wanted to only use GRUB when choosing my Ubuntu hard drive, how would I do that?
[21:54] <fgro> hi. i'd like to make a full system backup of my ubuntu based trisquel system. what tool should i use? i know there is rsync. but i'm looking for something gui friendly for non-proficient user. deja dup does not support full system back up, does  it?
[21:54] <fgro> https://answers.launchpad.net/deja-dup/+question/151349
[21:54] <MeQuerSat> ErtanERBEK, not really, sorry
[21:54] <DrMax_> question: is there a Ubuntu-specific guideline document to describe where to put user-specific stuff? (or, why is that that Trash is in ~/.local/shared/Trrash ?)
[21:54] <Neldogz> nemo, this is possible.. I will research some more. Thanks!
[21:54] <nemo> Rya_n: to repeat what I said... just install grub on the ubuntu HD
[21:54] <nemo> Rya_n: then reinstall the windows bootloader on the windows HD
[21:54] <hammommah> riffautae, thanks chief
[21:54] <ErtanERBEK> jtr__, Sh3r1ff , MeQuerSat no problem, Thank you for your interasting
[21:55] <jtr__> sln45_: there at all?
[21:55] <nemo> Neldogz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:55] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub ?
[21:55] <riffautae> DrMax_: the free desktop specification should match ubuntu
[21:55] <sln45_> jtr__: Yes. I'll email you. got to go, Goodbye!
[21:55] <riffautae> DrMax_: well, vice versa but you get the idea
[21:55] <Younder> hi all
[21:55] <nemo> Rya_n: but grub is more flexible than the windows bootloader IMO, I think you should just have it on both if you plan to use both a lot
[21:55] <jtr__> sln45_: okay :) , use your nick as a subject so i know :)
[21:56] <Rya_n> nemo: Sorry. So when installing grub it will give me the option, or...
[21:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: already gone ;)
[21:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: after i used tab to complete the nick :-|
[21:56] <nemo> Rya_n: yes
[21:56] <nemo> Rya_n: grub setup lets you pick which HDs/partitions to install it to
[21:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try to type faster ;)
[21:57] <nemo> Rya_n: nice graphical thing w/ checkboxes
[21:57] <Younder> question?
[21:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: haha :D
[21:57] <carlo> list
[21:57] <DrMax_> riffautae : ok, found.
[21:57] <DrMax_> I didn't know about FreeDesktop
[21:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: there is always a next time for things that are worth it :)
[21:57] <Sh3r1ff> :)
[21:57] <Younder> class ridicolus
[21:57] <carlo> :d
[21:57] <Neldogz> http://pastebin.com/u0sLgqL4
[21:58] <thorn__> Ubuntu just paid for itself today: I edited an important pdf document and created a new template for letterhead for our non-profit org. My computer literacy program might just get off the ground. I need to come up with a schematic for our floor usage, can anyone recommend a architecture style cad program for Ubuntu that has a shallow learning curve?
[21:58] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: did you run update-grub ?
[21:58] <Neldogz> yes sure did
[21:58] <Rya_n> nemo: Alright, thanks. And just in case I need to know for the future, how do I reset the Windows bootloader? I don't have any sort of CD for that.
[21:58] <Neldogz> upon booting all is see is a semi purple blank screen
[21:58] <Fusionite> Hello all
[21:58] <Trond--> How do I make DWA-140 run as fast as it should in Ubuntu as it does in Windows 7? It only does 1/3 of the speed in Ubuntu.
[21:58] <learner> is someone here who have taken the lpi 101 exam?
[21:59] <nemo> Rya_n: haven't done it in a while. google. there's some little utility someone made. or you can use the windows CD, but BE CAREFUL you do not reinstall it
[21:59] <nemo> (windows that is)
[21:59] <Fusionite> I have been looking at the Ubuntu Dev site
[21:59] <Fusionite> And it said I should start here
[21:59] <nemo> Rya_n: or you could just use grub :-p
[21:59] <Younder> Ahh a ubuntu fan
[21:59] <Fusionite> Right?
[21:59] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: then it should work
[21:59] <jtr__> Younder: we all are :)
[21:59] <Fusionite> :3
[21:59] <Rya_n> name: I think I'll stick with grub in fear of messing something up. Thanks again.
[21:59] <Rya_n> nemo: ^
[22:00] <Younder> Your setup is totally fucked
[22:00] <jtr__> Fusionite: right!
[22:00] <Neldogz> sh3r1ff: i have been able to get some verbosity upon bootup by enabling grub_cmdline_linux but i still dont see the OK or Fail
[22:00] <nemo> Trond--: what ubuntu version?
[22:00] <Trond--> Are there any D-Link driver on its way for Ubuntu? DWA-140 does only 1/3 of the internet speed.
[22:00] <Myrtti> thorn__: dia *may* have something, but be aware that the gui may be a bit crusty on the edges
[22:00] <thorn__> dia?
[22:00] <Trond--> nemo, 10.10 64-bit
[22:00] <jtr__> Fusionite: there is also a #ubuntu-devel
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: oh. bad luck
[22:01] <Myrtti> !info dia | thorn__
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1605338.html - probably something like this...
[22:01] <Younder> have you got any tomato juice?
[22:01] <Fusionite> Jtr__ thanks:), May I ask you for help if I get lost?, I havnt used IRC in a long time and I am new to Ubuntu Dev but not Ubuntu it self lol
[22:01] <nemo> Trond--: N vs G + old kernel
[22:02] <jtr__> Fusionite: sure :)
[22:02] <Fusionite> Thanks :)
[22:02] <Younder> I  love the stufff
[22:02] <lelo> Hello... I have an i7 system with 24G of ram. How can I make it faster using more ram?
[22:02] <nemo> Trond--: you could try some PPA, anyway. ideas in thread might help
[22:02] <nemo> Trond--: or upgrading, whatever
[22:02] <Myrtti> thorn__: it's not a cad programme, but it may still fit your needs
[22:02] <Younder> I have 32 gigs of RAM
[22:02] <Younder> oh dear
[22:02] <jtr__> Fusionite: but ask here if i am not there, anyone will help out
[22:03] <lelo> Younder: do you have any tips to make use of this much of ram?
[22:03] <Myrtti> Younder: do you have a Ubuntu support question or are you helping someone?
[22:03] <Younder> lelo: yes I do
[22:03] <lelo> Younder: please, share some with me :)
[22:04] <jonbeckett> #ubuntu
[22:04] <Sh3r1ff> Neldogz: it just shows you the services it is loading?
[22:04] <Trond--> how do i check which ubuntu version i am running?
[22:04] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: try cat /proc/version
[22:05] <Younder> lelo: lesson one parallel compilation
[22:05] <Trond--> Linux version 3.0.0-12-generic (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.6.1 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) ) #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011
[22:06] <lelo> Younder: that is not what I meant. I want to make better use of my RAM on Ubuntu. I am currently running with only 2.2G of RAM used, so 20.18G of ram are free and doing nothing.
[22:06] <Fusionite> I really need to get IRSSI or BitchX back :(
[22:06] <newhoa> Just upgraded to 11.10. Whenever gnome-settings-daemon starts... my keyboard stops working. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:06] <Fusionite> Lelo, You have 64Bit?
[22:06] <lelo> Fusionite: yes
[22:06] <nemo> Trond--: huh. on 10.10? you really are bleeding edge
[22:06] <Fusionite> So you can take it all up, You like PC games?
[22:07] <lelo> Fusionite: sure
[22:07] <Trond--> what?
[22:07] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: try cat /etc/issue
[22:07] <thorn__> Myrtti: thanks
[22:07] <Trond--> Ubuntu 11.10 \n \l
[22:07] <Trond--> 11.10 latest
[22:07] <Sh3r1ff> Trond--: et voila your version of ubuntu
[22:07] <Trond--> thanks
[22:07] <nemo> Trond--: oh. thought you said 17:00 < Trond--> nemo, 10.10 64-bit
[22:07] <lelo> Fusionite: are you getting somewhere with this? hehehe :)
[22:08] <Trond--> nemo, I thought so, but was wrong
[22:08] <Younder> lelo: i Have 32 gigs of RAM
[22:08] <nemo> Trond--: ok. welp. how about that stuff in the thread about software crypto?
[22:08] <lelo> Younder: Thank you for the repeated information :)
[22:08] <nemo> Trond--: not only could you check the stuff they are checking, but you could also test w/ crypto disabled briefly (open network)
[22:08] <dweez_> is it a bad idea to change your sources.list from lucid to oneiric and upgrade all your packages?
[22:09] <lelo> Fusionite, Younder: gotta go have dinner. bbin10
[22:09] <Myrtti> dweez_: yes
[22:09] <genii-around> dweez_: Yes
[22:09] <dweez_> :)
[22:09] <Fusionite> Ok, Take care
[22:09] <Sh3r1ff> dweez_: kinda
[22:09] <dweez_> is there a better way for me to upgrade everything?
[22:09] <Trond--> nemo, I have used Linux/Ubuntu for a couple of months so I am basicly a newbie
[22:09] <gogeta> lol
[22:10] <genii-around> dweez_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[22:10] <Sh3r1ff> dweez_: use the update manager
[22:10] <b0ot> nemo, how do i open an application
[22:10] <dweez_> thanks
[22:10] <Younder> lelo: nop
[22:10] <b0ot> in cygwin?
[22:10] <Myrtti> dweez_: mind you, do-release-upgrade will take you through all the steps in between
[22:11] <dweez_> Myrtti, thanks
[22:11] <Myrtti> dweez_: ie. all the releases between lucid and oneiric.
[22:11] <Ammaro> !list
[22:11] <Younder> it's all like free
[22:13] <newhoa> Does anyone know where the keyboard settings might be stored... maybe if I delete them my keyboard might come back to life.
[22:13] <Trond--> none here who has trouble with internet speed with d-link products and their stupid anti-linux drivers?
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> anyone familiar with shell extensions being blank for gnome tweak
[22:14] <Younder> nop
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> lier
[22:14] <Johnnychimpo> you know.
[22:15] <Fusionite> Conky is niceeee lol
[22:15] <Younder> no, I really don't
[22:15] <Trond--> later freeworld programmers
[22:16] <Myrtti> Johnnychimpo: mine is blank too, probably because there isn't any extensions installed. http://askubuntu.com/questions/75604/why-does-users-theme-extension-not-show-up-under-gnome-tweak-tool
[22:17] <Younder> whatever
[22:18] <Younder> let me watch my porn
[22:18] <romain_> have a good night
[22:19] <MeQuerSat> oh, I think he will ;)
[22:19] <cgermann> Hello does antone have a Functional repo to get Firefox 8 installed on 11.10?
[22:19] <iceroot> cgermann: the official mozilla ppa
[22:20] <iceroot> !firefox | cgermann
[22:20] <pr0tocoldan> I'm having a problem with my broadcom wireless card. I have already followed instructions for both b43 and STA ways of installing it. The driver has been installed but when I put lshw -C network in terminal I get that the device is disabled. On the online forums I found that this might have to be enabled from windows but I don't know how to do that. Does anyone know how to solve this issue?
[22:23] <Younder> pr0tocoldan, you should read  TCP/IP illustrated
[22:24] <cgermann> lets see adding the PPA on that page yealds Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> a second edition is coming out soon/now.
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> I hope they didn't ruin it
[22:24] <Pumpkin-> because that book is a bible
[22:24] <cgermann> so on ans so forth for the other repos associated wit that ppa
[22:25] <pr0tocoldan> Younder, have you heard of the same problem before?
[22:25] <Myrtti> Younder: please try to be helpful when helping, that wasn't helpful
[22:25] <Pumpkin-> but that said, I've just read back, and that is totally irrelevent right now !
[22:27] <Younder> TCP/IP illustrated was in fact helpful
[22:28] <Fusionite> I'm out for now people
[22:28] <Fusionite> Take care all :)
[22:28] <Younder> my favourite book it is
[22:29] <pr0tocoldan> I need help getting my wireless card to work. The drivers for it have been installed but it appears to be disabled. How do I enable it?
[22:30] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan: type in terminal -> rfkill list
[22:31] <aidan> what am I missing here? Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)
[22:31] <jtr__> EgyParadox: sorry to interrupt the conversation but can u suggest me a guide( preferably an ebook) where i can find commands like the one u just suggested ?
[22:31] <Younder> rfkilllist
[22:32] <Younder> rfkill list
[22:32] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox, Wireless LAN soft Blocked: Yes hard blocked: yes
[22:32] <Younder> will  work
[22:32] <Younder> of cource I like Tomato juice
[22:33] <jtr__> Younder: ?
[22:33] <Jonii> How come Ubuntu drains my netbooks battery almost twice as fast as Windows 7?
[22:33] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan, rfkill unblock wifi
[22:33] <jtr__> Jonii: maybe ubuntu has apple-fever now :P
[22:33] <Sh3r1ff> Jonii: could be to do with the brightness of your screen
[22:33] <Myrtti> Younder: this is the Ubuntu support channel, could you please cease with the offtopic comments
[22:34] <EgyParadox> jtr__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[22:34] <jtr__> EgyParadox: thank you :)
[22:34] <Younder> Myrtti, I have no off topic comments!
[22:34] <EgyParadox> there are more links below
[22:35] <EgyParadox> at the end
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox, what do i do after rfkill unblock wifi?
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> The status changed from sb
[22:35] <aidan> what do I need to install so that I can visit a site which is https?
[22:35] <pr0tocoldan> The status changed from sb: no hb: yes
[22:36] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: a browser
[22:37] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: see what I posted above
[22:37] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: "Verify return code: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate)" my browser is missing the local issuer certificate, or something.
[22:37] <Fakm> Hi, just installed via wubi.. is this a permenant solution instead of dual booting?
[22:38] <Myrtti> Fakm: I wouldn't call it that
[22:38] <Fakm> ok
[22:38] <Fakm> whats it used for
[22:38] <Myrtti> Fakm: I'd treat it as a demo of Ubuntu, just like games have demos
[22:38] <Fakm> gotcha
[22:38] <auronandace> Fakm: yeah, it's like a teaser
[22:39] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: can you provide a screenshot or so?
[22:39] <ViaNocturna85> Fakm, also its a way to use ubuntu if you dont have the know how for dual booting or arent sure if you stick with Ubuntu
[22:39] <Jasmin> FloodBot1, hii
[22:39] <pr0tocoldan> EgyParadox i rebooted and works like a charm. I don't know how to thank you. I have been trying to find this solution for over a week. Kudos to you.
[22:39] <Fakm> ok
[22:39] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: I pasted the error message ...
[22:39] <EgyParadox> pr0tocoldan, you're welcome :)
[22:39] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: what browser?
[22:40] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: openssl
[22:40] <Fakm> well i know ubuntu from past but need windows for games lol
[22:40] <Jasmin> aidan, hi
[22:40] <aidan> Hi Jasmin
[22:40] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: openssl is not a browser ;)
[22:40] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: one of us knows more than the other.
[22:40] <Younder> openssl sucks
[22:40] <Jasmin> aidan, can u help me out in fedora os
[22:41] <Myrtti> Jasmin: this is #ubuntu, not #fedora
[22:41] <Younder> no this is a ubuntu group
[22:41] <Jasmin> aidan,sorry
[22:41] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: so openssl IS a browser?
[22:41] <lexflex> hello ubuntu gurus
[22:42] <Jasmin> aidan, i dont know that i m new here
[22:42] <Myrtti> aidan: do you have ca-certificates package installed?
[22:42] <lexflex> anyone got a clue how to connect a bluetooth keyboard (apple) with ubuntu?
[22:43] <Younder> Sh3r1ff, you really are clueless
[22:43] <Jasmin> #fedora
[22:43] <Myrtti> Younder: can you please keep the commentary elsewhere
[22:43] <Sh3r1ff> Younder: i have a clue what a browser is
[22:43] <auronandace> !info openssl | Sh3r1ff
[22:44] <aidan> Myrtti: yes :/
[22:44] <Sh3r1ff> auronandace: i wasn't the one to say that openssl is a browser ;)
[22:44] <arif-ali> Hi all, the issue I had wrt to not being able to get into GNOME 3 although I had everything installed was my ID, my ID was 503, but it needs to be 1000 or higher to work. A very wierd setting, anyone now where best to change this
[22:44] <Myrtti> aidan: and does the page you're trying to view have a Java applet on it?
[22:44] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: I think you were.
[22:45] <Myrtti> aidan: you could also try to reinstall that package
[22:45] <hzilla_> hi on natty i have a cron file in /etc/cron.d as shown here http://pastebin.com/3bmWnNVG but it doesn't run.. it has a newline after it - why wouldn;t it run?
[22:45] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: < Sh3r1ff> aidan: openssl is not a browser ;)
[22:45] <aidan> Myrtti: $ openssl s_client -connect github.com:443
[22:45] <Myrtti> aidan: right
[22:46] <aidan> Sh3r1ff: did you just quote yourself as proof that someone else said something?
[22:46] <Jasmin> how do i Build two virtual machines and evaluate the performance of communication link between the machines.
[22:46] <lordjj> where is .bashrc found?
[22:46] <aidan> Myrtti: I did a reinstall, same deal. Hrmph.
[22:46] <jtr__> lordjj: ~/.bashrc
[22:47] <lordjj> right in the home folder?
[22:47] <Sh3r1ff> aidan: looks like it heh
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: ya its hidden , thats it
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: all files starting with the . in their name are hidden
[22:47] <lordjj> jtr__  but ctrl + h isn't showing it
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: type ls -la in home dir to know more
[22:47] <Myrtti> aidan: I get that message as well tho...
[22:47] <jtr__> lordjj: where are u doing the ctrl+h
[22:48] <aidan> Myrtti: oh maybe github is bung,
[22:48] <aidan> I didn't think of that.
[22:48] <lordjj> in the home folder
[22:48] <aidan> _ssl.c:480: error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed
[22:48] <ViaNocturna85> lordjj, when you need to find a file try the find command in a terminal, just type 'find -name <NAME OF FILE>'
[22:48] <aidan> This is what I'm originally trying to troubleshoot
[22:48] <jtr__> lordjj: i mean is it the terminal aur nautilus or what
[22:49] <lordjj> Nautilus
[22:49] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: he wanted .bashrc
[22:49] <lordjj> find -name .bashrc       outputs nothing
[22:49] <jtr__> lordjj: find doesn't look for hidden files
[22:49] <ViaNocturna85> jtr__, thats funny, it displays './.bashrc' for me
[22:50] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: without any flag ?
[22:50] <quackquack> are there any browserify-compatible test frameworks?
[22:50] <ViaNocturna85> 'find -name .bashrc'
[22:50] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: yes it does, but the command was wrong ;)
[22:50] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: thats strange ! i just tried searching my .swp files after a session crash and find -name *.swp returned nothing
[22:51] <bekks> jtr__: find . -name "*.swp"
[22:51] <bobweaver> Hi there I am trying to write a backup script and need some help. here is the script http://paste.ubuntu.com/733647/   as you can see from line 19 down I need Help thanks so Much
[22:51] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: ViaNocturna85 oh i did not type '-name' , sorry guys
[22:51] <bekks> ;)
[22:51] <gage_bw> "Unmount partitions that are in use?   The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:  /dev/sda "      I'm installing from a USB stick. Does this message refer to the very USB stick I'm installing from?
[22:51] <jtr__> lordjj: you can do what they said
[22:51] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: try find . -name "*bashrc*" -print
[22:51] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: ok
[22:51] <ViaNocturna85> jtr__, thank god, i just thought i had some divine terminal session going on
[22:52] <lordjj> I think I just don't have one in my home folder
[22:52] <jtr__> ViaNocturna85: ahaha :D
[22:52] <lelo> Guys, I have a system with 24G of Ram and I want to make it run faster using idle ram. How can I make it use more ram for useful things, speeding up the system?
[22:53] <bobweaver> lelo:  arent you the luck one :>)
[22:53] <bekks> lelo: Your system does its job very well, it uses as much RAM as it needs.
[22:53] <NoReGreT> i installed the "additional drivers" on my hp dv6 with dual GPUs (intel and AMD), i rebooted then tried to run teh catalyst control center and then got http://imgur.com/7o4m3 any ideas ?
[22:53] <SIFTU> lelo: it will use what it needs, the filesystem will use a chunk, you could probably turn swappiness to 0
[22:53] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: prints the output anyways , why use -print ?
[22:55] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: because you can do other stuff to the files find finds with -exec
[22:55] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:55] <antonio_> que fale português?
[22:55] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: just a habit
[22:55] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i still cant print all the .swp files it prints only one
[22:55] <andyk> does anyone know what download and upload speed you need to host a 300,000 + uniques/month
[22:55] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff:
[22:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: did u just say 'files find finds' :P
[22:56] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: if it prints one, it means it found just the one
[22:56] <plummerb> I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI  and I'm wondering about the X11 Client section.  What would be an example of an X11 client?
[22:56] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and yeah i did, the files that the command "find" finds, that more clear? ;)
[22:56] <antonio_> alguém do Brasil?
[22:56] <antonio_> que fale português?
[22:56] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i can see more than one in my dolphin file browser
[22:57] <pangolin> !br | antonio_
[22:57] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: no i was just mocking it, i got it the first time :P
[22:57] <moystard> hey guys
[22:57] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: english isn't my native tongue, so it could sound a little weird sometimes ;)
[22:57] <moystard> I need your help :) I am trying to switch from Unity to Wingpanel
[22:57] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: but if the files are in the same folder, it should normally find them
[22:57] <moystard> I have buitl wingpanel and it runs well, but now I want to replace so I installed compiz config manager, disabled unity
[22:57] <HACKhalo2> ok, I'm trying to boot archlinux with ubuntu's grub
[22:57] <antonio_> Thanks
[22:58] <moystard> but I would like to know how I can start wingpanel & docky at the startup
[22:58] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: omg! i never noticed any errors! and the statement was as it is very correct, ur english is better than okay :)
[22:58] <HACKhalo2> it boots into ubuntu fine, but arch tries to load sda3, which doesn't exist
[22:59] <bj_> heloo, after upgrade tp oneiric i have to logou twoice, any clue how to turn this off?
[22:59] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: okay, find searches only the current dir ?
[22:59] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: thats y
[22:59] <bekks> jtr__: No.
[22:59] <HACKhalo2> the archlinux people say it's ubuntu's fault for it not working correctly
[22:59] <bekks> By default, find searches the current directory and all subdirectories.
[22:59] <Brother_Mouzone> quit
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: in fact i was in home and it didnt print the .swp files in Music folder ( lyrics )
[23:00] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: the syntax of find is: find "location" -name "something you search" (short version)
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: so obv no
[23:00] <bekks> jtr__: Then do this: find .
[23:00] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and the location can be anything you want (. standing for current dir)
[23:00] <jtr__> bekks: and if u dont give a location, it assumes . ?
[23:00] <bekks> jtr__: If your assumption would be correct, you wouldnt see any contents i subdirectories.
[23:00] <SIFTU> jtr__: bekks is correct.. find search subdirs too
[23:01] <jtr__> bekks: u mean if i had done a find -name '*.swp' in ~ , it should print .swp files in Music folder right ?
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: pardon the specificity, i understood what u said , but somehow it doesn't give the expected output
[23:02] <bekks> jtr__: I mean that find searches subdirectories too if you follow the syntax correctly.
[23:02] <moystard> Nobody uses wingpanel?
[23:02] <bekks> You still omit the "location" which is mandatory.
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: so i must give a "location" parameter
[23:02] <lelo> bobweaver, bekks, SIFTU: I've heard from cooleagues that it is possible to run the whole system from RAM. Google wasn't very helpful on achieving that with 11.10. Any ideas on how to implement that?
[23:02] <plummerb> What would be an example of an X11 client?
[23:02] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: perhaps the searchterm wasn't correct
[23:02] <jtr__> bekks: ok let me check
[23:03] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: it printed one .swp file , so i think it was
[23:03] <bekks> jtr__: No, you have not. Just issue "find" somewhere.
[23:03] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff:  find . -name '*.swp'
[23:03] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: find . -name is case sensitive, use find . -iname for case insensitive
[23:03] <SIFTU> lelo: yeah puppy does that.. you can also create ramdisks
[23:04] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: the string i am searching is a case-insensitive regexp
[23:04] <lelo> SIFTU: what do you mean by puppy? puppy linux distro?
[23:04] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i mean i dont think it makes any difference
[23:04] <SIFTU> lelo: yeah.. it loads itself into RAM
[23:04] <mya> Right, Im just going out on a limb here with this question. I want to know if there is any way I can use IMVU's latest client without it crashing through Wine and without paying for Crossover?
[23:04] <Gr3mlin> hay all, anyone alive in here?
[23:04] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: yes it does, find . -name '*.swp' will not find a something.SWP file
[23:05] <SIFTU> lelo: but it wont use all the RAM you are talking about :)
[23:05] <ikonia> mya: short answer - no
[23:05] <lelo> SIFTU: but the idea is to run ubuntu... :)
[23:05] <bekks> jtr__: -iname vs. -name
[23:05] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: i knew that :)
[23:05] <mya> ikonia: Long answer?
[23:05] <SIFTU> lelo: well you could copy stuff into a ramdisk and mount it.. you would need to do it on everyboot
[23:05] <Phoenixz> Just installed postgresql on Ubuntu 11.04, apt-get install postgresql. Installed w/o problem. Now I do service postresql start, nothing happens.. I get no error, nothing, just the prompt, but no postgresql process.. What might be the problem, or ways to fix this?
[23:06] <Gr3mlin> running ubuntu headless, need to be reminded what the system monitor is called. has and odd name and ive forgotten.
[23:06] <lelo> SIFTU: I understand. Thank you :)
[23:06] <Phoenixz> I DO have MySQL running as well, ps `pgrep sql` shows the mysql server running.. Maybe it has something to do with that? (though, thats doubtful)
[23:06] <Gentoo64> Gr3mlin: top?
[23:06] <Gentoo64> htop?
[23:06] <lucas-arg> cant get kworld ub405 dvb work on ubuntu 11.10...!!! help!!!!
[23:06] <plummerb> Top?
[23:06] <ikonia> mya: can't be bothered,
[23:06] <moystard> Anyone using wingpanel or docky on Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:07] <ikonia> Phoenixz: have you setup the database
[23:07] <Lehthanis> Is there a way to install the packages from an aptoncd iso by mounting the iso instead of burning to disk?
[23:07] <ikonia> Phoenixz: the database needs to be setup so there is something to run
[23:07] <ViaNocturna85> ikonia, if you dont know an answer, perhaps leave it for someone who might?
[23:07] <bekks> moystard: Why dont you just ask your real question? :)
[23:07] <jtr__> bekks: Sh3r1ff: it was my mistake , thanks u guys :) and apologies , i confused abc.txt~ kind of files with a swap file, but anyways what are those files ending with a ~
[23:07] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: don't know the answer to what ?
[23:07] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: but find searches every subdirectory as weel, so find should find the files if your searchterm matches
[23:07] <mya> ikonia: can you just give me an idea of where to start looking?
[23:07] <ViaNocturna85> mya's question
[23:07] <ikonia> mya: it's not stable underwine
[23:07] <moystard> bekks, I did before but nobody replied. I am trying to replace Unity with wingpanel/docky
[23:07] <ikonia> ViaNocturna85: I do know the answer, that's why I gave it him
[23:07] <Phoenixz> ikonia: Great, I'll look for a howto on postgre..
[23:07] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: backup files
[23:07] <jtr__> Sh3r1ff: okay, thanks
[23:08] <bekks> moystard: Thats a nice job to do - but no question nor a problem :)
[23:08] <andyk> ikonia: do you know what upload/download speeds you would need to host a high traffic website?
[23:08] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: gedit can be configured to automaticly save your work for example
[23:08] <ikonia> Phoenixz: you've installed the binaries, bu there is "nothing" to actually start if that makes sense, you've not created an instance yet
[23:08] <mya> ikonia: HIM?! IM A GIRL!
[23:08] <ikonia> andyk: depends on many things
[23:08] <ikonia> mya: sorry about that
[23:08] <Sh3r1ff> jtr__: and it saves it like that (filenam.extension~)
[23:08] <moystard> the solution I thought of is to run compiz config manager, disable unity, but I need then to launch wingpanel on startup, what is the easiest solution to do that? Also, if I run docky, everything disappears on my screen :/
[23:08] <Phoenixz> ikonia: well, mysql does start w/o anything.. :)
[23:08] <mya> ikonia: not a worry.
[23:08] <ikonia> Phoenixz: mysql is not postgres
[23:09] <Phoenixz> ikonia: checking https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[23:09] <plummerb> Does anyone know an example of a X11 "Clent"?
[23:09] <ikonia> Phoenixz: and if you check, mysql has 3 instances by default, mysql/test/myisam
[23:09] <moystard> bekks, any idea?
[23:09] <andyk> ikonia: well just in general, if you used a scalable php framework and you had one dedicated server, could you reliably host 300,000+ monthly uniques?
[23:09] <ikonia> Phoenixz: so it does require an instance, although it works different than postfres
[23:09] <ikonia> postgres
[23:09] <ikonia> andyk: it depends on many things as I've said, there is no "general"
[23:09] <ikonia> andyk: you'd need to do a sizing and scaling exercise
[23:10] <Phoenixz> ikonia: From the URL I just showed, all stuff I try requires postgres to be already running.. How would I create a DB?
[23:10] <Phoenixz> ikonia:  sudo -u postgres createdb mydb requires postgresql to already be running, which it doesnt...
[23:11] <Lehthanis> I need help importing packages from an aptoncd iso without burning a disk. All I have is a memory stick.
[23:11] <ikonia> Phoenixz: interesting,
[23:11] <bekks> moystard: You could use a .xinitrc maybe
[23:11] <ikonia> Phoenixz: what was the name of the package you installed
[23:12] <Phoenixz> postgresql
[23:12] <SIFTU> Lehthanis: mount the iso, add it to your sources
[23:12] <lelo> SIFTU: Interesting> http://linuxgeekforu.blogspot.com/2011/07/making-ubuntu-104-fast-by-loading-it-to.html
[23:12] <ikonia> Phoenixz: did sudo -u postgres psql postgres work
[23:13] <Phoenixz> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/HKbaz147
[23:13] <Phoenixz> ikonia: sudo -u postgres psql postgres gives same error
[23:13] <SIFTU> lelo: nice :)
[23:14] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ls -la /var/run/postgresql
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: tried that, empty
[23:14] <moystard> bekks, that was not my plan, I am keeping the current xsession and try to configure from here
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: the dir exists, but is empty
[23:14] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ok, so the socket files not there confirming it's not running
[23:14] <dkog> Hello - How might I go about installing fonts on a headless server (to be used by GTK/Pango code) ?
[23:14] <Phoenixz> ikonia: correct..
[23:15] <Phoenixz> ikonia: So that would indicate there IS a problem, right?
[23:15] <ikonia> Phoenixz well, very possible, what command are you using to start the binary
[23:16] <Phoenixz> ikonia: service postgresql start... gives nothing, directly returns to prompt
[23:16] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ls -la /etc/init.d | grep post
[23:16] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: anything in the log?  (/var/log/postgresql/)
[23:16] <Phoenixz> ikonia: -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 1028 Aug  5  2010 postgresql
[23:17] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do
[23:17] <ikonia> Phoenixz: ok - so that looks spot on at least
[23:17] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: /var/log/postgre/ is also empty
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: psotgresql, not postgre
[23:17] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: are you running the service command as root?  (with sudo)
[23:17] <plummerb> dkog  You can use apt-get to install font packages.
[23:18] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: psotgresql?
[23:18] <Phoenixz> tonyyarusso: tried both with sudo and as root
[23:18] <tonyyarusso> Phoenixz: postgresql, rather
[23:18] <ikonia> back in a short while
[23:18] <plummerb> How do I redirect display from Ubuntu server to a desktop?
[23:19] <dkog> plummerb: ah that's easy, thanks.  Looks like I can just copy my own fonts into any font dir and run fc-cache myself too.
[23:19] <Sh3r1ff> Phoenixz: try /etc/init.d/postgresql start
[23:19] <plummerb> dkog that should do it.
[23:21] <plummerb> I know that Ubuntu server doesn't have X but if I want to run Virtualbox for example, how would I redirect the output to a desktop system?
[23:21] <Lehthanis> Siftu how do I add it to sources? It tells me to insert a disk when I click add volume in package manager.
[23:22] <Lehthanis> I have the disk mounted
[23:22] <th0r> plummerb: if you want to run X apps you have to install X on the server. You can redirect the output using, for instance, X-forwarding to a client, but X has to be running on the server
[23:22] <plummerb> help.ubuntu.com says I can use an X11 client and forward the connections over ssh to my desktop...
[23:22] <imbezol> th0r: and when you say X has to be running on the server, you of course mean the libs have to be installed. X doesn't have to be running though.
[23:23] <th0r> imbezol: I just always assumed it was running when I installed the libs...but you may be right on that
[23:23] <plummerb> Yeah, help.ubuntu.com says to run specific X11 clients?  What does that mean?
[23:23] <imbezol> th0r: the server has to run where it will display.. ie on your desktop
[23:24] <plummerb> I have an Lubuntu desktop I want to forward the output to.
[23:24] <imbezol> plummerb: just install something simple like xterm. then ssh -X servername, and run xterm
[23:24] <Lehthanis> Any body know how to add an iso to package manager as a source or am I doing it all wrong?
[23:25] <imbezol> plummerb: ubuntu may try to add xorg to your default runlevel but you can use rcconf or similar util to remove it
[23:26] <imbezol> plummerb: (assuming the server is ubuntu too..)
[23:26] <plummerb> imbezol  Install xterm on the server?
[23:26] <imbezol> yep
[23:27] <plummerb> imbezol  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI  says to use xauth...  Any idea what that means?
[23:27] <NoReGreT> i installed the "additional drivers" on my hp dv6 with dual GPUs (intel and AMD), i rebooted then tried to run teh catalyst control center and then got http://imgur.com/7o4m3 any ideas ?
[23:28] <imbezol> plummerb: you can check but i think if you try to install xterm it will probably pull in xauth as a dependency
[23:28] <plummerb> NoReGreT  What version of Ubuntu?
[23:28] <NoReGreT> plummerb: 11.10
[23:29] <plummerb> NoReGreT  There are known issues with using ATI with 11.10
[23:29] <imbezol> plummerb: the other thing you'll have to check is /etc/ssh/sshd_config as you need to have X11Forwarding set to yes for it to work
[23:30] <NoReGreT> damn it
[23:30] <plummerb> NoReGreT  I have to use the 2D version of Unity for it to work on my system at home.
[23:31] <Lehthanis> Where am I supposed to add new modelines to? I added some things to default in /etc/gdm/Init but it doesn't give me the new mode in monitors.
[23:32] <plummerb> imbezol  So I don't need to install xserver-xorg?
[23:32] <esmirlin> hey guys i want to buy a new laptop, what is more important to have a i5 instead of a i3 or to have an nvidia 1G instead or 512?
[23:32] <plummerb> esmirlin  Depends on what you are doing with the thing...
[23:32] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I dropped an ssh -X session but that session hasn't timed out on the remote machine yet.  Is there any way I can get the instance of the program I was running back up? I have unsaved data
[23:32] <imbezol> plummerb: don't think so, nope
[23:32] <plummerb> esmirlin  Doing mathmatical computations?      Thanks anyways I guess
[23:35] <Lehthanis> Can anyone help me with adding a mounted iso as a source in package manager?
[23:36] <plummerb> Darn, got kicked.
[23:37] <Lehthanis> Add volume keeps asking for a disk
[23:38] <ldz420> I have a hard drive that I am not able to access with mounting but the drive has a file system .   I have a lot of information that I want to copy.  Is dd the best command from the job
[23:39] <bobweaver> I think that this is more like it ! http://paste.ubuntu.com/733679/
[23:40] <Lehthanis> Gah!
[23:40] <spundun> hi
[23:41] <jaysonsantos> Hi guys, my unity is not showing sys settings app, what is it command name?
[23:41] <spundun> question... a package I'm building requires /usr/include/cdefs.h http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=cdefs.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any says libc6-dev should have that file but I can't find it on my ubuntu installation
[23:42] <Lehthanis> How do I add a mounted iso as a source in package manager?
[23:42] <spundun> any idea how I could get /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h on ubuntu?
[23:43] <plummerb> Lehthanis  You add the mount point as the source.
[23:43] <spundun> btw sorry for the typo in the first message the file I'm looking for is /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h
[23:43] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Whish package manager?
[23:43] <Lehthanis> How do I know what the mount point is?
[23:44] <Neldogz> if i wanted to mirror a directory on a hard drive named /home/user1/Downloads  to  /media/datafolder   could i simply do rsync -avr source destination ?
[23:44] <zkid111> Can someone help me with an issue that I'm having with a hard drive?
[23:44] <Lehthanis> Synaptic I guess
[23:44] <Neldogz> are there any switches that are critical that i could be missing?
[23:44] <riffautae> Neldogz: yea but be aware of how trailing /'s work
[23:44] <Lehthanis> I made a iso in aptoncd that I need to get on this offline machine.
[23:45] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Were you able to mount the iso?
[23:45] <Lehthanis> Yeah it shows up in the places menu
[23:46] <Neldogz> thank you riffautae.. I will make sure to add the / to designate these as directories and not files
[23:46] <Neldogz> i totally missed that
[23:46] <plummerb> Lehthanis  What is it in the Places menu?
[23:46] <moystard> I have huge performance issues with Docky, the animations are not smooth at all :(
[23:47] <Guest75882> hello
[23:47] <Lehthanis> Update-CD1.iso
[23:47] <plummerb> Lehthanis  How did you mount it?
[23:47] <rofra> help
[23:48] <moystard> Is that normal to have performance issues with the proprietary nvidia drivers & docky?
[23:48] <Lehthanis> Right click - open with archive mounter
[23:48] <Guest75882> hello all
[23:49] <plummerb> Lehthanis  Ok, you have to actually "mount" the iso as a file system first.  Check this out:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountIso
[23:49] <plummerb> Lehthanis  After that you should be able to browse to the packages in the package manager.
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[23:50] <plummerb> Nice...
[23:51] <plummerb> When you put your hand in a bunch or kamgoo that was once your friends face...  LOL
[23:52] <riffautae> plummerb: ): i dont get it
[23:53] <plummerb> I was channeling George C. Scott from Patton...  ;)
[23:55] <plummerb> With that failure I'm out.
[23:55] <Lehthanis> Plummerb now that I added it how do I find the specific packages that are there?
[23:56] <Lehthanis> Great he's gone
[23:56] <SIFTU> Lehthanis: I PM'ed you the links
[23:57] <AndrewEMT> Question... I bought Steel Storm from the software center back when I still used Natty and I'm not on Oneric... The game doesn't work in 11.10 due to the repository and package being for Natty (for some reason, it is a clean install of 11.10) can someone help me by explaining how to change the repository
[23:57] <Jonii> Sh3r1ff: about ubuntu power drainage: Nope, even if I set the brigthness to the least possible setting, and disable wireless networks, windows 7 still lasts 1.5 hours longer than Ubuntu
[23:57] <willwork4foo> Hi all - I'm having a bit of a nightmare here. I'm trying to configure my Ubuntu 11.10 desktop (amd64) as an XBMC box for use with my TV, and I've got two problems that are causing me grief. Problem 1: I get no sound whatsoever over the HDMI link. No matter what I do (yes, I've tried all the options in the hardware tab on the sound settings)
[23:58] <willwork4foo> Problem 2: I cannot get my xmbc user account to auto-login with xbmc as it's default session.
[23:58] <Jonii> Like, WIndows 7 with moderately high screen brightness and constant network action. Of course, if you disable wifi and set screen brigtness to low in windows, you get even wider gap
[23:58] <AndrewEMT> I'm now on Oneric*
[23:58] <willwork4foo> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?
[23:58] <spundun> figured it out


[02:04] <Dandel> the piglit builders are broken ( again)... the template patch needs updating for piglit-summary-html.py
[02:08] <Dandel> Sarvatt, you around?