[04:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:37] <gorganalmighty> chronic1: I've been advised not to touch it so i don't
[04:37] <chronic1> haha
[04:37] <chronic1> ok..note taken....sounds kinda like a deb-hell maker
[04:37] <Jucato> chronic1: you can ask in #automatix if you want
[04:37] <Jucato> hopefully, feisty will make automatix and easyubuntu a bit redundant in some areas
[04:38] <gorganalmighty> not easyubuntu because of proprietry issues
[04:39] <oceanstream> Does kubuntu use beryl or another compositing window manager?
[04:39] <oceanstream> for desktop effects?
[04:39] <chronic1> Jucato: do you happen to have dvd/wmv/flash support on your machine?
[04:39] <Jucato> chronic1: not sure/yes/yes
[04:39] <Jucato> oceanstream: not installed by default
[04:39] <Jucato> and not completely supported (yet)
[04:40] <Jucato> !beryl | oceanstream
[04:40] <ubotu> oceanstream: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:40] <chronic1> did the standard "apt-get install flash-nonfree" work for you?
[04:40] <gorganalmighty> is easyUbuntu still maintained?
[04:40] <Jucato> chronic1: yes. (flashplugin-nonfree)
[04:40] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: not really sure. you have to ask them
[04:40] <oceanstream> Jucato: That's alright, I made beryl work with slackware I'm sure kubuntu will be similar.
[04:41] <chronic1> hmm, i have always got the error about bad network or upstream changes
[04:41] <chronic1> guess i'll try again
[04:41] <Jucato> btw, Flash 9 beta 2 is available in dapper and edgy -backports
[04:41] <oceanstream> Really?
[04:41] <Jucato> wmv support (w32codecs) is the easiest to install, provided you're on a 32-bit system
[04:42] <Jucato> !flash9
[04:42] <ubotu> flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[04:42] <chronic1> Jucato: i tried the w32codecs and the libdvdcss2 but get the following error for both of them....
[04:42] <Jucato> chronic1: I'm presuming you're on a 32-bit system. w32codecs and flash don't work on 64-bit
[04:43] <chronic1> it is a 32bit system
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: I'm trying to authenticate konqueror with BorderManager, I disabled TLS, but now it says it lost connection to the server
[04:43] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: oh... I'm not familiar with those stuff :(
[04:43] <bronze> Hi. My /etc/apt/apt.conf file has only one line in it (New kubuntu install) and does not seemto beable to reach any repos.  and all the repos in sources.list were commented out by the installer. I can't do any apt operations successfully. Can anyone give me some ideas what to do please?
[04:43] <BluesKaj> Jucato, neither adept nor synaptic or even apt/aptitude can make clamav go away cuz it's badly broken
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> Jucato: ok, thanks, where shoudl I ask
[04:44] <BluesKaj> any ideas , Jucato ?
[04:44] <Jucato> bonbonthejon: probably here, but you'd have to wait for someone to answer...
[04:44] <chronic1> sorry for the PM...i just am wierd about pasting in channels
[04:44] <Jucato> !pastebin | chronic1
[04:44] <ubotu> chronic1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:44] <Jucato> that's what pastebins are for :)
[04:44] <Jucato> chronic1: you can't install w32codecs from the repositories (at least the official ones)
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> bronze: if you do ifconfig do you have an IP address
[04:45] <chronic1> what all repositories would you say are "safe" to include?
[04:45] <bronze> bonbonthejon: yes. I can get to internet fine
[04:45] <Jucato> chronic1: my personal opinion? ubuntu.com, kubuntu.org, and wine
[04:45] <Jucato> bronze: you need to uncomment the repositories you need
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> bronze: can you ping the source
[04:46] <paul_> Hi everyone, can someome please help me, I am new to Kubuntu. I have mounted a samba share in a folder within /media/sharedrive/, I would really like to modify the icon here, so I can make it look like a network share rather than a regular folder but every time I try to do it, it tells me I do not have sufficient access to edit a .directory file. There isn't even a .directory folder in there! I have tried sudo kate the .directory file, but it doesn't find
[04:46] <paul_> anything, can someone please help?
[04:46] <Jucato> chronic1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[04:46] <bronze> Jucato: you read my mind. I just did that. :-)
[04:46] <Jucato> :P
[04:46] <bronze> bonbonthejon: My network issues are all resolved.
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> bronze: can you update
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> bronze: good
[04:46] <bronze> bonbonthejon: just did. it seems to be working
[04:47] <bronze> thank you.
[04:47] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:47] <gorganalmighty> When i started using kubuntu I was suprised at how small the repositorys are.  Aren't there any generic Debian repositorys I should be adding?
[04:48] <bronze> oops - i installed xchat... there goes all the system speed - its activating gnome libraries.... :-(
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> !source-o-matic
[04:48] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:48] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: small?
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: ^^^
[04:48] <gorganalmighty> it seems small when you search for a particular type of util and find there are none
[04:48] <gorganalmighty> for example a binary file editor
[04:48] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: there are 20,000+ packages in Ubuntu
[04:49] <Jucato> of course, it might not be as much as what Debian has
[04:49] <gorganalmighty> maybe small is the wrong word
[04:49] <paul_> Xeakin: I can't PM apparently, not registered.
[04:49] <gorganalmighty> but ive been looking for a good linux binary file editor and haven't found one
[04:50] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: can you give an example of one?
[04:50] <Jucato> !register | paul_
[04:50] <ubotu> paul_: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:50] <gorganalmighty> also items like PythonCard and Audacity aren't in there
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> !audacity
[04:50] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[04:50] <gorganalmighty> Jucato: no i can't.  If I could I wouldn't be searching for 1
[04:51] <gorganalmighty> hmmm....
[04:51] <paul_> !register
[04:51] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[04:51] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: well, usually, you first search if there is a such an app in Linux before you search if there's a package for it in Kubuntu
[04:51] <Jucato> because Kubuntu can't have a package for an app that doesn't exist for Linux :)
[04:51] <gorganalmighty> i couldn't find audacity when I searched with adept from the dapper livecd
[04:52] <Jucato> !pythoncard | gorganalmighty
[04:52] <ubotu> pythoncard: wxPython-based GUI construction framework (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-7 (edgy), package size 24 kB, installed size 60 kB
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: the livecd probably doesnt have all the repositories enabled
[04:52] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: in the Live CD, most of your repositories are disabled. it will only show you main and resitricted
[04:52] <gorganalmighty> i went in an enabled the ones that were there, but there were only about 5
[04:53] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: it's a Live CD :)
[04:53] <gorganalmighty> i must be missing something....
[04:53] <Jucato> it's not meant to be a *real* install
[04:53] <Jucato> it only contains enough settings and information to run, test and install
[04:53] <gorganalmighty> i only have internet at work so I use the Live CD to download packages to install at home
[04:53] <Jucato> if you really want to search for available packages, packages.ubuntu.com is the best way to go
[04:54] <gorganalmighty> okay thanks
[04:54] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: you have manually add universe and multiverse in the Live CD
[04:54] <gorganalmighty> my silly :D
[04:55] <Tido> anyone know a gmail checker that can check multiple accounts?
[04:55] <Jucato> kmail?
[04:55] <froud> give up, where is a magic solution to install nvidia on Kubuntu Dapper
[04:56] <Jucato> Tido: kmail? kcheckgmail?
[04:56] <kristyon> anyone use zoneminder?
[04:56] <Jucato> froud: is your card legacy?
[04:56] <gorganalmighty> do the opensource nvidia drivers support any kind of hardware acceleration?
[04:56] <kristyon> no
[04:57] <kristyon> not 3d anyway
[04:57] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: nope
[04:57] <froud> Jucato: GeForce FX 5200
[04:57] <kristyon> gorg anal mighty?
[04:58] <gorganalmighty> and i assume the closed source ones don't come preinstalled in kubuntu
[04:58] <Jucato> depending if your card is legacy or not, this should work normally: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:58] <kristyon> nope
[04:58] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: you assume correctly
[04:58] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: And they're unstable.
[04:58] <oceanstream> When I'm trying to set up this system, it doesn't give me a place to put in a root password?
[04:58] <gorganalmighty> kristyon: HAHA, Gorgan Almighty
[04:58] <Jucato> manchicken: they are not :P
[04:58] <oceanstream> then, when attempting kdesu I have no idea what to put in...
[04:58] <Jucato> !sudo | oceanstream
[04:58] <ubotu> oceanstream: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root").   Especially if you want to do anything with power management.
[04:59] <Jucato> manchicken: heh, I'm on a desktop... :)
[04:59] <froud> Jucato:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:59] <Jucato> froud: you need the linux-restricted-modules for your kernel too
[04:59] <gorganalmighty> what about download stright from nvidia website?
[04:59] <Jucato> that's different from nvidia-kernel-common
[04:59] <kristyon> anyone use gatos for ati radeon vid capture?
[04:59] <oceanstream> Jucato: Well, how am I supposed to configure eth0 with this system?  In the configuration manager, it's set to dhcp and "Administrator Mode" asks for the root password.
[04:59] <lupine_85> gorganalmighty: no point
[04:59] <Jucato> gorganalmighty: possible, but more problematic
[04:59] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[04:59] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) 9746 version of the binary NVidia drivers by using this repository: deb http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu edgy stable
[04:59] <manchicken> Jucato: Just because you don't use the functionality they break doesn't mean they don't break functionality ;)
[05:00] <Jucato> manchicken: it just means that I'm unaware of the instability :P
[05:00] <Jucato> oceanstream: I just told you, your user's password is the sudo password
[05:00] <oceanstream> oh
[05:00] <oceanstream> hahahaha
[05:00] <oceanstream> sorry
[05:00] <oceanstream> :)
[05:00] <Jucato> oceanstream: you could also read the wiki page I pointed out earlier
[05:00] <manchicken> heh
[05:00] <manchicken> ATI drivers are even more unstable though.
[05:00] <gorganalmighty> lol i wouldn't ever touch an ATI card
[05:01] <Jucato> no kidding?
[05:01] <Jucato>  :P
[05:01] <manchicken> These video card manufacturers are the enemies of freedom.  Nobody should buy from either of them ^_^
[05:01] <kristyon> how about ati video input?!!
[05:01] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: Good idea, I always love to GUESS what should be on my monitor!! :P
[05:01] <kristyon> been trying for ages to get my radeon to do capture
[05:02] <sleepy495> Will my desktop theme be erased when I install xgl/compiz?
[05:02] <fignew> gorganalmighty: ... or just use intel :P
[05:02] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Intel makes quite a nice graphics card, and they support free software drivers, too.
[05:02] <bonbonthejon> gorganalmighty: I had a teacher who joked he could listen to the processor instead of jusing a monitor
[05:02] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: 3D acceleration?
[05:02] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Yep.  Quite nice.
[05:02] <fignew> gorganalmighty: tons of it!
[05:02] <kristyon> man thats some high hearing range he's got!
[05:02] <Jucato> manchicken: non-IGP video cards?
[05:02] <gorganalmighty> manchicken@ I didn't realise that, I'll check it out
[05:03] <manchicken> Jucato: Dunno on that one.
[05:03] <Jucato> :)
[05:03] <manchicken> Or, for the safety and stability of your machine, you could just use free software drivers without 3d accel on any card.
[05:04] <manchicken> But I would agree that the intel cards are the best way to go.
[05:04] <gorganalmighty> Seriously can these Intel 3D accel cards compete with nVidia and ATI?
[05:04] <manchicken> (or any card sporting an intel chipset)
[05:04] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: Sure they can.
[05:04] <lupine_85> gorganalmighty: the latest one is OK
[05:04] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: have you ever tried playing Tux Racer without 3D Accel?
[05:04] <lupine_85> i810 and i915 were a bit weak
[05:04] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: The more important question is is your freedom worth 3d accel?
[05:05] <lupine_85> manchicken: well, yes :p
[05:05] <manchicken> That's a rather cheap price.
[05:05] <Jucato> manchicken: yes
[05:05] <Jucato> I also have the freedom to choose to use a binary driver, even if it somehow limits my absolute freedom, right?
[05:06] <gorganalmighty> manchicken: I'd prefer to avoid opensource becoming the new vendor lock-in
[05:06] <manchicken> Sure you do.  But I wouldn't recommend it.
[05:06] <sleepy495> how do I edit this from root? etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, is it kdesu kate or just kdesu
[05:06] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: How is that a vendor lockin?
[05:06] <Jucato> sleepy495: kdesu kate
[05:06] <sleepy495> thanks
[05:06] <Jucato> sleepy495: kdesu lets you run kate as root
[05:06] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: When you've got the ability to do whatever you want with the software, there is no lockin.
[05:06] <lupine_85> http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/linux-doomsday
[05:06] <lupine_85> oh yes
[05:06] <Jucato> some, though, have a mental lockin
[05:07] <Jucato> mental/theoretical/ideological lock in
[05:07] <manchicken> Yeah.  Those who hate the notion that it's okay to restrict freedom for the sake of profit will have that lock-in I suppose.
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> my mind is apparently elsewhere this morning...  i read kdesu as k-desu rather than kde-su :\
[05:07] <gorganalmighty> Restricting someone to only free stuff when better is available is just like vendor lock-in
[05:07] <lupine_85> desu desu desu
[05:08] <lupine_85> ;)
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> exactly.
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> they all fall down
[05:08] <Jucato> lupine_85: hai!
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> scary
[05:08] <lupine_85> hai2u
[05:08] <Daisuke_Ido> oh no
[05:08] <manchicken> gorganalmighty: It's not about restricting.  It's about freedom.  Less free is not better.
[05:08] <Jucato> well, anyway, discussion is getting -offtopic...
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> agreed
[05:08] <lupine_85> manchicken: more choice is always better ~desu
[05:08] <gorganalmighty> And I've got work to do....
[05:08] <manchicken> Even if it's "better" technology, it's still not okay to restrict a person for the sake of profit.
[05:08] <manchicken> lupine_85: Slavery is not a choice.
[05:09] <lupine_85> it is if there's a choice
[05:09] <manchicken> lupine_85: Slavery is never a choice.
[05:09] <Jucato> I suggest to those who want to continue the discussion to continue it in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:09] <manchicken> Jucato: Stick in the mud ;)
[05:09] <manchicken> heh
[05:09] <Jucato> :)
[05:09] <manchicken> Either way, nvidia and ATI drivers suck mainly because they destabilize your kernel as well as restrict your freedom.
[05:09] <lupine_85> If I choose to sell myself into slavery (rather than being captured in a village raid ;) ), it was a choice
[05:09] <manchicken> ^_^
[05:10] <lupine_85> but yeah, the binary drivers do suck
[05:10] <lupine_85> nouveau++
[05:10] <manchicken> lupine_85: Not if the slave-masters killed the people who offered you freedom so that slavery would be the only choice.
[05:10] <Jucato> *ahem*
[05:11] <lupine_85> and there your analogy falls down. they didn't :)
[05:11] <lupine_85> Jucato: oh, ok :)
[05:11] <manchicken> Go to offtopic
[05:11] <lupine_85> not that there's much else going on here
[05:11] <lupine_85> nah, I'm done
[05:11] <Jucato> not a good reason :)
[05:12] <compilerwriter1> VSpike still here?
[05:12] <manchicken> lupine_85: Tell that to the guy who got sued by ATI for trying to reverse-engineer 3d drivers for Free software.  We could have nice, stable ATI drivers by now.  Though I've found that composite WMs kinda slow things down ^_^
[05:12] <Jucato> 1 reason why we tend not to encourage offtopic discussions, even when there's a very low traffic in here, is because some people might be afraid to ask questions because there's an ongoing discussion
[05:12] <manchicken> (see?  I talked about something kubuntu related, it's on topic)
[05:13] <lupine_85> well, reverse-engineering is illegal in some countries
[05:13] <compilerwriter1> Tido you still here?
[05:13] <lupine_85> clean-room implementation is necessary
[05:13] <lupine_85> hence nouveau
[05:13] <manchicken> lupine_85: Naw.  People should be able to write whatever software they want to write.  Like in kubuntu, you can write any program or contribute to the distro freely ^_^
[05:14] <manchicken> They even have a nice way of encouraging people to try making distros from their distro.
[05:14] <manchicken> It's quite nice.
[05:14] <compilerwriter1> I could use a little mud installation help if someone feels like playing around.
[05:14] <Tido> yeah compilerwriter1
[05:14] <lupine_85> mm, now we hit philosophy. That "right" clashes with the "right" of people to own what they create
[05:14] <compilerwriter1> good tido.  Want to help me get a mud fired up?
[05:15] <manchicken> lupine_85: Who says they have that right?
[05:15] <Jucato> manchicken: I really like you, specially for all your help... but please?
[05:15] <Tido> I really can't, compilerwriter1, I'm working :(
[05:15] <manchicken> Jucato: I suppose ^_^
[05:15] <compilerwriter1> ok.
[05:15] <Jucato> thanks
[05:15] <manchicken> Nobody has any good questions right now though. ^_^
[05:15] <manchicken> What else is there to talk about?
[05:15] <Tido> if you do it get up and running, send me an ip sometime, would be crazy to see a mud again
[05:16] <Jucato> manchicken: see my statement earlier
[05:16] <compilerwriter1> I got as far as config to create the makefile.
[05:16] <manchicken> Which one?
 1 reason why we tend not to encourage offtopic discussions, even when there's a very low traffic in here, is because some people might be afraid to ask questions because there's an ongoing discussion
[05:16] <manchicken> We're in code-freeze at work, so it's kinda dull there.
[05:16] <manchicken> Ah.
[05:16] <compilerwriter1> tido I am not sure I will be able to do that but perhaps you will be able to help in that regard when the time comes.
[05:16] <manchicken> Really?
[05:16] <Jucato> really
[05:16] <Tido> kk
[05:17] <Jucato> I was like you before. I questioned the rule of not having offtopic conversation during low traffic times...
[05:17] <manchicken> I wouldn't think that would be the problem.
[05:17] <compilerwriter1> Anyone need a diversion?
[05:17] <Jucato> diversions are more than welcome, in offtopic :)
[05:17] <Jucato> unless they are Kubuntu-related diversions
[05:19] <soulrider> Jucato: i think that if its a low traffic time it should be allowed to have offtopic conversations
[05:19] <soulrider> but definately not whent heres a lot fo people asking questions
[05:20] <Jucato> soulrider: I thought so too before. But I've seen it happen, that some people were reluctant to ask because there was an offtopic debate/discussion going on
[05:20] <compilerwriter1> Jucato It is a kubuntu diversion of sorts.  I am trying to make something work on kubuntu.
[05:20] <Jucato> anyway, it's not for me to decide
[05:20] <soulrider> compilerwriter1: what do you mean by "divertion of sorts" ?
[05:21] <Jucato> I only implement "the rules" :)
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> Jucato but in all fairness it is a total waste of time sort of thing for someone with a headache to divert the tension for a minute
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> soulrider I am trying to get a mud up on my machine to play with one again.
[05:21] <soulrider> a mud?
[05:21] <compilerwriter1> I think I have managed a workable make file from the config but am not sure.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> so what's the sledgehammer command to rid the system of a program that is blocking apt-updates ?
[05:22] <BluesKaj> a broken pkg
[05:23] <soulrider> !adeptfix
[05:23] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[05:23] <soulrider> there :)
[05:25] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[05:25] <soulrider> hi rysiek|pl
[05:25] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows of a way to *make* apt/aptitude/dpkg remove a given package *without* executing the pre-remove script?
[05:26] <Jucato> ??
[05:27] <soulrider> no idea, i just aptitude purge everything :P
[05:27] <rysiek|pl> lol
[05:27] <Jucato> what pre-remove script? and why don't you want to run it?
[05:28] <soulrider> !repos > compilerwriter1
[05:29] <rysiek|pl> Jucato: the prerm scripts; I get "subprocess pre-removal scripts returned error code 2"; I had a disk failure, some directories gone buh-bye (well, I have them - as files with numbers as their names in /lost+found :/ ) and I don't want to re-install the system from ground up
[05:30] <Jucato> ah.. . hm...
[05:30] <rysiek|pl> Jucato: actually reinstalling *all* the packages solved almost all problems - the dirs are back where they should be, etc - but 4 packages didn't install correctly
[05:32] <BluesKaj> apt keeps tewlling me to : dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem , but it doesn't do anything , the problem remains
[05:33] <Jucato> sudo apt-get -f install ?
[05:33] <soulrider> BluesKaj: sudo dpkg -conf......... ?
[05:34] <africantiger> hello
[05:35] <africantiger> Anyone able to help out of dependency hell on a newly installed Kubuntu?
[05:35] <africantiger> I am trying to install automatix2
[05:35] <sleepy495> Does it matter where to put certain backupfiles or can I put them anywhere
[05:35] <soulrider> africantiger: why would you have dependcy hell ?
[05:35] <yelonek> !automatix2
[05:36] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <soulrider> just use apt-get or adept to install packages and it will install the dependencies
[05:36] <bubu1uk> sleepy495: at least somewhere where they r safe. that's why it's backup. not somewhere where they can get lost. :p
[05:36] <africantiger> tried a simle package vim, but no go
[05:37] <yelonek> !WorksForMe
[05:37] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:37] <soulrider> africantiger: vim is already installed
[05:37] <yelonek> !install
[05:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:37] <africantiger> soulrider: yes it is!
[05:38] <soulrider> africantiger: ;)
[05:38] <africantiger> soulrider: why does apt-get fail?
[05:38] <soulrider> maybe because its already installed
[05:38] <africantiger> soulrider: I also tried gvim -- that also did not work
[05:39] <yelonek> how do i give rights to write for me in /media/hda4 ? i tried to use chmod but not sure if i use it right
[05:39] <africantiger> soulrider: I am new to debian not linux (I use Fedora)
[05:39] <soulrider> africantiger: if youre using apt-get aptitude or adept, it WILL download dependencies automatically
[05:39] <yelonek> chmod u+w /media/hda4 ?
[05:39] <soulrider> yelonek: press alt+f2 and type "kdesu konqueror"
[05:39] <Jucato> africantiger: gvim is not installed by default, but vim is
[05:39] <soulrider> then go to /media/ and change permissions by right clicking hdb4 and selecting properties
[05:40] <soulrider> africantiger: deb doesnt have the problems rpm has ;)
[05:40] <yelonek> thx, soulrider :)
[05:40] <africantiger> sure did not work for automatix2
[05:40] <africantiger> neither .deb or apt-get xxx
[05:40] <soulrider> africantiger: have you enabled the extra repositories ?
[05:40] <africantiger> don't thinks so
[05:41] <soulrider> !repos | africantiger
[05:41] <ubotu> africantiger: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:41] <soulrider> that is probably your problem
[05:41] <africantiger> ok
[05:41] <Jucato> !automatix | africantiger
[05:41] <ubotu> africantiger: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:41] <soulrider> i suggest you dont use automatix i heard it broke some systems, but its your choice, some people use it and like it
[05:42] <africantiger> ok, stay away from automatix, instal lthe extra repos
[05:42] <africantiger> how do you use apt-get with adept?
[05:43] <africantiger> i tried apt-get adept install gvim  --- that did not work
[05:43] <Jucato> er
[05:43] <yelonek> sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:43] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install gvim
[05:43] <soulrider> africantiger: adept is like a GUI for apt-get
[05:43] <soulrider> see you Jucato
[05:43] <africantiger> ok
[05:43] <unix_infidel> o man, sleep sounds fun.
[05:43] <Jucato> see yah! :)
[05:44] <soulrider> !universe
[05:44] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:44] <Jucato> be nice to newbies :)
[05:44] <soulrider> we are ;)
[05:44] <soulrider> africantiger: follow that link, it will explain how to add the new repositories
[05:45] <africantiger> soulrider: thanks
[05:45] <africantiger> all: thanks
[05:45] <soulrider> no probnlem
[05:45] <BluesKaj> still stuck in broken pkg hell here :(
[05:45] <soulrider> ill be back in a sec
[05:46] <soulrider> BluesKaj: this will sound very windows-ish, but how about a reboot?
[05:46] <yelonek> africantiger: go to adept_manager, not installer
[05:46] <yelonek> africantiger: then you got view->manage repositories
[05:46] <BluesKaj> hehe, soulrider :) ...I guess it's worth a try
[05:47] <soulrider> im back :)
[05:47] <africantiger> what is adept_manager?
[05:47] <soulrider> africantiger: thats adept
[05:47] <yelonek> africantiger: kind of adept
[05:47] <scorp2025> Hi, last night I changed my source list to edgy (I am using dapper) and made a apt-get update. Then I switched back to default source list, unfortunately installing gettextruby1.8 isn't possible any more (keeps bugging that it isn't installable). What shall I do?
[05:47] <yelonek> go to system->adept manager
[05:47] <soulrider> adept has several interfaces, some are more expert oriented while others are more newbie oriented
[05:48] <soulrider> scorp2025: did you upgrade to edgy ?
[05:48] <soulrider> i dont think you should have changed the repo list back
[05:48] <africantiger> What is the main problem with automatix2?
[05:49] <intelikey> soulrider how would reboot help a broken package ?
[05:49] <scorp2025> soulrider: No I didn't. I tried to install the gettextruby1.8 version of edgy but it didn't work so I switched back.
[05:50] <intelikey> scorp2025 did you apt-get update after you switched back ?
[05:51] <scorp2025> intelikey: of course. That's why I don't understand the problem
[05:51] <intelikey> lets see the error
[05:52] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, so what have you managed to break today?
[05:54] <intelikey> BluesKaj   Q. "so what do linux user do anyway?"    A. "they install software."     :)
[05:54] <BluesKaj> clamav. by trying to remove it
[05:55] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove clamav     says what ?
[05:56] <scorp2025> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/837/ I translated the error message, because it's in German.
[05:57] <BluesKaj> clamav-daemon: Depends: clamav-base (= 0.88.4-1ubuntu2) but 0.88.4-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[05:57] <intelikey> scorp2025 k thankd.
[05:57] <intelikey> s
[05:59] <intelikey> BluesKaj try       aptitude remove clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam libclamav1
[05:59] <intelikey> see what it does.
[06:00] <Bubba_Gump> can anybody name a good place to buy PCI graphics cards in the UK please?
[06:01] <compilerwriter1> Is a file that keeps stalling while being downloaded likely to be corrupt?
[06:01] <yelonek> anybody had problems with sound mixer ?
[06:01] <intelikey> scorp2025 did you try#   sudo apt-get remove libgettext-ruby1.8
[06:01] <yelonek> i'm turning mute on, but still hear sounds
[06:01] <intelikey> scorp2025 probably just say not installed.
[06:02] <scorp2025> intelikey: it's not installed.
[06:02] <intelikey> !info libgettext-ruby1.8 dapper
[06:02] <ubotu> libgettext-ruby1.8: Gettext for ruby1.8. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1build1 (dapper), package size 131 kB, installed size 2068 kB
[06:02] <intelikey> scorp2025 ok you have not universe in your sources.list  or the wrong universe repo
[06:02] <africantiger> help installing gvim
[06:03] <intelikey> !sound | yelonek
[06:03] <ubotu> yelonek: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[06:03] <scorp2025> intelikey: I have main restricted universe and multiverse turned on.
[06:03] <intelikey> as dapper   and applied changes ?
[06:03] <africantiger> i have added universe and multiverse
[06:04] <BluesKaj> error processing clamav-daemon (--configure):Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[06:05] <scorp2025> intelikey yeah.
[06:06] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok first add that package to the removal   and then if that fails try this#     sudo dpkg -P --force-remove clamav-daemon clamav clamav-base clamav-freshclam
[06:06] <intelikey> or --force-all
[06:07] <intelikey> then do# sudo apt-get install -f    to take care of any inconsistancy in the package database
[06:07] <pcnerd37> Hi.  Im hoping somebody can help me.  Im having trouble figuring out how to set up the universe and multiverse repositories.  Im trying to use the guide for ubuntu to set them up with synaptic, but what it says to do and what is there are two different things.
[06:08] <BluesKaj>  intelikey,  dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `remove
[06:08] <intelikey> see above post ^
 or --force-all
[06:09] <yelonek> !pcm
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pcm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <yelonek> what is pcm in mixer ?
[06:09] <pcnerd37> also, when doing any kind of scrolling, it is real jerky and not smooth at all.  Is there anyway to fix that?
[06:10] <scorp2025> intelikey: any ideas left?
[06:10] <yelonek> !kmix
[06:10] <ubotu> kmix: sound mixer applet for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 366 kB, installed size 1208 kB
[06:10] <apixelatedoffice> I have to be a KDE n00b for a bit... I want to get rid of a ton of Gnome based apps... KDE apps are much better... so anyways, I checked like 25 un-installations and crashed my system last time... if I simply un-installed the gnome desktop (with one check using synaptic) would that harm my system?
[06:11] <intelikey> oh scorp2025 if you tried to install that from edgy repos you may need to  "sudo apt-get clean "   also
[06:11] <BluesKaj> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:11] <intelikey> you could have a uninstallable package in the cache dir.
[06:11] <BluesKaj> sounds reasonable
[06:11] <intelikey> what was the error ?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> that was it above
[06:12] <BluesKaj> /var/cache/apt/archives/clamav-daemon_0.88.4-1ubuntu2_i386.deb
[06:12] <BluesKaj> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[06:12] <pcnerd37> when i move windows on the screen or try to scroll, it is really jerky, is there anyway to fix that?  graphics drivers possibly?
[06:13] <africantiger> soulrider: how does one install software on kubuntu?
[06:13] <africantiger> I have been successful thus far?
[06:13] <africantiger> not even in adept
[06:13] <apixelatedoffice> is checking to uninstall simply the gnome desktop, will it mess my system up?
[06:14] <intelikey> BluesKaj why are you installing ?    -P is purge packages
[06:14] <africantiger> i am trying to install firefox from adept
[06:14] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice no not at all
[06:15] <BluesKaj> I'm not installing as such , but I reckon I have to install to fix the broken pkg in order to remove it successfully
[06:15] <apixelatedoffice> Ok thanks, it's a start... one day I wont be a n00b, and I'll be super happy with KDE!!! lol
[06:15] <intelikey> africantiger try the command line ?     sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:16] <africantiger> unmet dependencies
[06:16] <scorp2025> intelikey: thx for your help! But this just won't work, I guess I finally killed my system :-(
[06:16] <apixelatedoffice> intelikey... one more quicky... what is the fastest way to uninstall programs you see in the 'start menu'
[06:16] <intelikey> BluesKaj shouldn't have to    that's what the --force-all -P  should do on the dpkg command   if you ran that then you might run the apt-get install -f   to see what it says now.
[06:16] <sleepy495> what line do I add for sources,.list, this one doesn't work "deb http://xgl.compiz.info/dapper main
[06:18] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice sudo apt-get remove <package name>      and wildcards will work     gtk*   for example will clean out most all gnome packages.
[06:19] <intelikey> scorp2025 i'm on dialup so slow connection but i'm installing that package to test   trying to determine what might be happening there.
[06:19] <apixelatedoffice> OK awesome, thanks, one of the reasons I switched to KDE is because the Ubuntu room is ridiculous ... 1000 people... and if you have a question you are their mercy! :^)
[06:20] <intelikey> only a few seconds left on the dl.
[06:20] <BluesKaj> intelikey, same errors
[06:20] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice yes a channel can get "over crowded"
[06:21] <apixelatedoffice> yeah, it's almost like the super geeks rule the room and there is no room for simple questions.
[06:21] <intelikey> BluesKaj clear the cache and try it.
[06:21] <BluesKaj> how do i do that, intelikey ?
[06:21] <intelikey> apixelatedoffice except the "super geeks" don't seem to know anything either most of the time.
[06:22] <apixelatedoffice> hehe, super geek wannabes? lol
[06:22] <intelikey> BluesKaj sudo apt-get clean
[06:22] <BluesKaj> EEEUWW intelikey , that looks dangerous
[06:23] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: it just cleans away local cache of .deb files
[06:23] <intelikey> well in all fairness to the supergeeks i don't usually get an answer to my questions in here either.
[06:23] <intelikey> scorp2025 i just installed   Setting up libruby1.8 (1.8.4-1ubuntu1.3) ...
[06:24] <intelikey> Setting up libgettext-ruby1.8 (1.1.0-1build1) ...
[06:24] <Lynoure> BluesKaj: I have always thought that get clean sounds like a shower :)
[06:24] <scorp2025> intelikey So it worked for you?
[06:25] <yelonek> how do i put openoffice.org Draw into menu ?
[06:25] <intelikey> as you see no error here     (dapper)   so it's in your sources.list or your package cache  or your package database       edit the sources.list by hand carefully and make sure there is no edgy in it.   sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*   and  sudo apt-get update    then try again.
[06:25] <yelonek> i tried to add ooffice -draw  position
[06:26] <yelonek> but that doesn't work
[06:26] <BluesKaj> bummer ...same errors
[06:26] <scorp2025> intelikey could you please paste your source list?
[06:27] <yelonek> nah, no underline: "% U"
[06:27] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok you you want to play hard ball with that thing we can rm the configs for that package and then uninstall it.
[06:27] <apixelatedoffice> umm is 'OpenGL' referring to "most compatible with gnome"?
[06:27] <BluesKaj> intelikey, it seems the only thing left to do :)
[06:28] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok how do you want to do it.  cli or gui ?     and you'll have to wait while i take a short break first.
[06:28] <BluesKaj> i don't even want the thing ...I mistakenly decided to install it
[06:28] <BluesKaj> cli works for me
[06:28] <scorp2025> intelikey thx a lot :-)
[06:28] <apixelatedoffice> I think I answered my own question... when I clicked uninstall... it wanted to uninstall gaim and abiword and xchat and stuff!
[06:29] <lynskyn__> Are you gay?
[06:29] <intelikey> k brb.
[06:31] <NeonLightning> how do i check what processes are using a specific process
[06:32] <intelikey> pstree
[06:32] <NeonLightning> oi bash is using dpkg
[06:33] <NeonLightning> and i can't kill dpkg
[06:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj ok.  do    rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/clamav*.*inst ;sudo apt-get install -f ;sudo apt-get remove --purge clamav*
[06:34] <compilerwriter1> I may have backgrounded a job how do I find out?
[06:34] <yelonek> how do i run OODraw ? I know it is installed, but there is no shortcut in menu
[06:34] <intelikey> NeonLightning users can't kill what they don't own.   sudo.
[06:35] <NeonLightning> i am in console as root right now
[06:35] <NeonLightning> and i thought you couldn't use kill -9 without beeing in sudo or root anyway
[06:35] <intelikey> NeonLightning fuser -k /usr/bin/dpkg*
[06:36] <NeonLightning> blank
[06:38] <intelikey> kill doesn't have to be -9  can be -6 or no option  also killall <processname>        ps -A x    &   top  are handy.
[06:38] <BluesKaj> cool! thx intelikey ...no broken pkgs ! :)
[06:38] <intelikey> compilerwriter1 fg ?
[06:38] <intelikey> BluesKaj np.
[06:38] <NeonLightning> oh i've always just used -9
[06:39] <intelikey> BluesKaj i have had dpkg broken many times....
[06:39] <NeonLightning> and for ps i usually use ps -aux |grep whatever
[06:40] <intelikey> that will error  ^   NeonLightning   they broke posix  the -a is not an option.   try  ps aux      and i don't like it but that's the new standard
[06:40] <NeonLightning> yea it errors but still works for some reason
[06:40] <intelikey> man ps for more.
[06:41] <intelikey> NeonLightning i like "-A" better than "a"  anyway  :)
[06:42] <NeonLightning> yea my adept errored wile installing totem-gstreamer and then i went to use it again and it said i couldn't change anything  so i tried to apt-get install it and it gave me an error saying to do dpkg --configure -a and that just gives me and error saying that dpkg is in use
[06:43] <intelikey> did you kill it ?
[06:43] <NeonLightning> couldn't
[06:43] <intelikey> does ps -A x say it's [defunct]  ?
[06:43] <NeonLightning> it doesn't say anything about not beeing able to but when i kill it i check ps again and its still there with the same pid
[06:44] <NeonLightning> i'll try that
[06:44] <NeonLightning>  9613 ?        D      0:00 dpkg --configure -a
[06:44] <intelikey> killall dpkg
[06:45] <NeonLightning> o
[06:45] <NeonLightning> i'm running off livecd and man is that putting the cd in go
[06:45] <NeonLightning> but now the cdrom has stopped and its still sitting on a blank line not at the prompt again tho
[06:46] <intelikey> killall didn't return ?     eeek!
[06:46] <intelikey> man the life boats!    abandon ship !
[06:46] <NeonLightning> yea this mobo is flaky so i'm blaming that
[06:47] <intelikey> sudo kill -9 -1      women and children first!    aoooogaaa !
[06:47] <intelikey> expect that to kill it. ^    along with everything else.
[06:48] <NeonLightning> lol so thats the same as shutdown -t3 now now
[06:48] <intelikey> no it leaves a running system.
[06:49] <intelikey> it's like killall5 && exit
[06:49] <NeonLightning> what does it leave you with?
[06:49] <intelikey> the kernel and init.
[06:49] <NeonLightning> lol might as well just reset
[06:49] <intelikey> you can then login and startx
[06:49] <NeonLightning> can't login i'm on a livecd
[06:49] <intelikey> if you wish.
[06:50] <NeonLightning> don't know the pass they use for the account ubuntu
[06:50] <intelikey> not one.
[06:51] <jakkass> .: 18: Can't open /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions
[06:51] <jakkass> any ideas guys?
[06:51] <jakkass> i'm trying to start my lighttpd server
[06:51] <jakkass> it won't work :o
[06:51] <intelikey> is the file there ?
[06:51] <jakkass> doesn't appear so
[06:51] <llutz> jakkass: installed no ubuntu-package?
[06:51] <jakkass> eh what?
[06:51] <jakkass> lol
[06:52] <jakkass> i installed kubuntu if thats one of the default packages i must have
[06:52] <intelikey> jakkass i think that's in lsb-utils
[06:52] <intelikey> let me check
[06:52] <jakkass> E: Couldn't find package lsb-utils
[06:52] <jakkass> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-package
[06:53] <intelikey> lsb-base
[06:53] <intelikey> !lsb-base
[06:54] <ubotu> lsb-base: Linux Standard Base 3.1 init script functionality. In component main, is required. Version 3.1-10ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 76 kB
[06:54] <jakkass> hmm its not in apt-get
[06:54] <jakkass> for some reason
[06:54] <jakkass> oh base
[06:54] <sleepy495> how do I unhide files in konqueror?
[06:54] <jakkass> lsb-base is already the newest version.
[06:54] <LjL> Ubotu, tell sleepy495 about hidden | sleepy495, see the private message from Ubotu
[06:55] <intelikey> but it's not there... in fact i just went looking for   /etc/init.d/*funct*   and don't have one.    so find out what is looking for it and fix that.
[06:55] <sleepy495> !hidden
[06:55] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:55] <intelikey> !hidden | sleepy495
[06:55] <ubotu> sleepy495: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[06:55] <intelikey> :)
[06:56] <llutz> they call it a "feature" ... tststs :(
[06:56] <intelikey> :B
[06:58] <intelikey> sleepy495 you might have been asking about   view -> show hidden
[06:58] <soulrider> i think that feature is getting removed in feisty
[06:58] <intelikey> that will show  .blah   where as the other will show you how to see /things
[06:59] <intelikey> soulrider yes i heard it was,  all they got was cussings from it....
[06:59] <soulrider> lol yes intelikey
[07:00] <HailandKill> Is there a helpful part of Adept Manager that will kindly tell me why my requested changes apparently BREAK everything?
[07:00] <soulrider> i think that all of my complaining about pppoe connections finally worked, since theyre implementing knetworkmanager
[07:01] <intelikey> HailandKill did you enable the universe/multiverse repos ?
[07:01] <intelikey> !repos | HailandKill
[07:01] <ubotu> HailandKill: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:01] <HailandKill> Not to my knowledge. Should I?
[07:02] <intelikey> yes
[07:02] <intelikey> read the link   ^
[07:03] <HailandKill> I've got everything enabled that is required enabled
[07:03] <intelikey> the standard ubuntu repositories " main restricted universe multiverse  & backports "   are safe (reletivly anyway) and give you access to over 12 more packages.
[07:03] <sleepy495> why is my source.list blank when I type kdesu kate etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:04] <intelikey> "required enabled" ???
[07:04] <gnomefreak> sleepy495: you forgot the first /
[07:04] <intelikey> cause there is no $HOME/etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <zorglu_> sleepy495: "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:04] <gnomefreak> sleepy495: its /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <sleepy495> thank
[07:04] <HailandKill> intelikey, they are enabled. I remeber doing it now, but I just edited the file.
[07:05] <intelikey> HailandKill ok apply changes update the database
[07:05] <intelikey> HailandKill just editing the file alone does nothing.
[07:06] <HailandKill> intelikey. Sorry, yeah... I updated everything ages ago. It all works perfectly
[07:06] <intelikey> ok what is listed that you can't install ?
[07:07] <HailandKill> I'm trying to install libpq-dev
[07:07] <intelikey> !libpq-dev
[07:07] <ubotu> libpq-dev: header files for libpq4 (PostgreSQL library). In component main, is optional. Version 8.1.4-7ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 298 kB, installed size 988 kB
[07:07] <intelikey> ok and it gives errors ?
[07:08] <HailandKill> It says Requested change: BREAK (install)
[07:08] <HailandKill> Consequently, it refuses to install.
[07:09] <intelikey> ah ok you added other (non-ubuntu) repos didn't you.  and installed what compiz ?
[07:10] <intelikey> pastebin you sources.list HailandKill
[07:10] <HailandKill> kk
[07:12] <intelikey> !break
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about break - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <intelikey> !automatix
[07:14] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:14] <intelikey> !WorksForMe
[07:14] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:16] <intelikey> !rezolution
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rezolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:17] <intelikey> !resolution
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:19] <HailandKill> intelikey, right... http://pastebin.com/854433
[07:19] <NeonLightning> i installed totem-gstreamer and gstreamer-0.8-dvd and totem keeps telling me that i don't have the plugins to play a dvd
[07:23] <intelikey> HailandKill hmmm well that's clean enough.    open a konsole and do# apt-get -s remove libpq*           and see what all it pukes out.
[07:24] <intelikey> may need to close adept first
[07:24] <intelikey> not sure for a dry run
[07:25] <HailandKill> It pukes out a lot...
[07:26] <intelikey> yes is libpq4  in the list ?
[07:27] <intelikey> better yet re run it with this added to it.     | grep libpq
[07:27] <ninnghizidha> Question: I cant upload to Flickr on two Pcs with Kubuntu (6.06 and 6.10) - i cant upload, thats so wierd.
[07:27] <HailandKill> one step ahead:
[07:28] <HailandKill> it is in there, "Note, selecting libpq4 for regex 'libpq*'
[07:28] <HailandKill> E: Broken packages
[07:28] <intelikey> HailandKill notice.   "Note, selecting"  can be ignored.
[07:29] <intelikey> but the broken package error we may need.
[07:29] <sleepy495> where is kde window decorator located?
[07:30] <intelikey> so get that in context    try this#  apt-get -s remove libpq* | grep -B5 -A5 libpq | grep -v "Note, selecting"
[07:31] <intelikey> HailandKill that should parse the output  might forget grep and just use less
[07:33] <intelikey> btw for anyone that didn't know    less has a search feature   /string   or  ?string   to search for string forward or backwards respectively
[07:34] <HailandKill> intelikey http://pastebin.com/854442
[07:35] <HailandKill> not sure if that's quite what you expected...
[07:35] <Tido> this is what I hate about kde/kubuntu: when I accidently open a file that uses a program already open, it makes the new mouse cursor, and puts a new item on the taskbar, and then takes about 2 minutes to figure out that program is already running
[07:36] <intelikey> HailandKill  sudo apt-get install -f       and pastebin the output
[07:37] <intelikey> tido so use   twm   insted of kde  :)
[07:38] <sleepy495> whats this mean at startup, "/dev/sda3 has been mounted 30 times without being checked?
[07:38] <intelikey> sleepy495 ah it means it's been mounted 30 times without being checked
[07:38] <HailandKill> pretty much what it says on the tin
[07:39] <HailandKill> It isn't a problem, sleepy495
[07:39] <HailandKill> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/854445
[07:39] <intelikey> k
[07:40] <intelikey> sleepy495 if you want to change that behaviour  use sudo tune2fs /dev/sda3      man tune2fs   for options
[07:41] <sleepy495> ok
[07:41] <sleepy495> I installed compiz and xgl, when I type compiz --replace gconf it says Couldnt load plugin 'libgconf.so
[07:41] <intelikey> sleepy495 i personally turn max count off   but that's not recommended.
[07:42] <intelikey> one would just assume gconf is installed.....
[07:43] <intelikey> HailandKill hmmmm that's very odd.
[07:44] <intelikey> HailandKill if you try to install that libpq4-dev via apt-get does it give anymore info on what is holding it up ?
[07:44] <intelikey> HailandKill cause that doesn't look normal   to have a broken package request with nothing broken....
[07:45] <intelikey> HailandKill i was actually expecting it to end with a postinst configure error or something.
[07:49] <BluesKaj> oops , fix broken pkgs is back !
[07:49] <fairman> Hi, i have one question. How to set to always run *.exe application throught Wine? I can set "remember this application forever" but next attempt he do not remmeber it. I am trying it throught Krusader
[07:50] <intelikey> BluesKaj what did you do now      lol
[07:50] <BluesKaj> nothing ...upgraded repos
[07:50] <BluesKaj> err updated rather
[07:51] <intelikey> fairman right click one and select run with and remember this type
[07:51] <HailandKill> intelikey, if I use Adept it tells me that there was an error committing changes. Followed with some generic possibilities, like it couldn't connect to the server or the package breaks other backages
[07:51] <fairman> intelikey: Yes i did it, but it is still wrong
[07:51] <HailandKill> I'm assuming libpq4-dev is breaking something, but I can't seem to find out what.
[07:52] <BluesKaj> this reminds me of Yast in Suse ...had broken pkges all the time ...din't matter what  :)
[07:52] <fairman> intelikey: right click - select open with - remember - it write "saving configuration" but it is still bad
[07:52] <intelikey> HailandKill close adept and do# sudo apt-get install libpq4-dev       so you can read the error message
[07:53] <intelikey> fairman hmm odd.   i guess you need to get with someone that uses kde.
[07:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj if updating the database broke things then the sources.list is in error.
[07:55] <NeonLightning> i installed totem-gstreamer and gstreamer-0.8-dvd and totem keeps telling me that i don't have the plugins to play a dvd any suggestions?
[07:55] <intelikey> fairman iirc you can open konqueror and menu settings configure konqueror     then in that window look at and/or edit file associations
[07:55] <sleepy495> how do I activate compiz?
[07:56] <HailandKill> intelikey, http://pastebin.com/854462
[07:56] <dwidmann> !dvdcss | neonlightning
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvdcss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <intelikey> !dvd
[07:56] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:56] <dwidmann> Yes. That.
[07:57] <BluesKaj> yeah intelikey , it's the official edgy list ...is it flawed ?
[07:57] <fairman> intelikey: Still wrong, i add "exe" and default applicaton wine (Wine Window Emulator) -> saving configuration but ....
[07:57] <intelikey> BluesKaj wouldn't suprise me.
[07:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[07:58] <intelikey> HailandKill is that an upgrade from dapper to edgy you are running ?
[07:58] <HailandKill> intelikey, straight dapper install.
[07:59] <intelikey> HailandKill oh sorry meant breezy to dapper anyway.
[07:59] <intelikey> that's odd.     oh wait.   you don't have updates
[07:59] <BluesKaj> well, i's not really abig bother ...apt does update ok , it's not blocked ...synaptic just tells me  there's a broken pkg whenever i open it , but I can still install other pkgs
[08:00] <intelikey> i think i know what it is HailandKill   what was the url to your sources.list again ?
[08:01] <HailandKill> intelikey http://pastebin.com/854433
[08:02] <intelikey> HailandKill ok
[08:04] <intelikey> copy yours to a safe place or name  and try putting that one in /etc/apt/   and do this#   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:05] <intelikey> then see if you don't have much better luck with it.     the problem is that the updates which ubuntu has issued has changed the dependancies on some packages.   that's why it installed ok for me but you got errors.
[08:07] <student> hi
[08:08] <revolution27> hey guys, firefox is installed but it's not in my applications menu. How can I get it there?
[08:08] <student> it should be under internet
[08:08] <revolution27> yeh but it's not
[08:08] <student> really?.....
[08:08] <student> can you locate it with konqueror?
[08:08] <student> or a file manager?
[08:09] <revolution27> i could before... now i can't
[08:09] <revolution27> but i can run it by typing firefox
[08:09] <student> hmm
[08:09] <student> right click ur bar, hit add application, and try typing in the name
[08:10] <BluesKaj> interesting error here .. "subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 2"
[08:11] <BluesKaj> pre-removal script?
[08:11] <revolution27> that works
[08:11] <student> does anyone here know how to configure wireless internet?
[08:11] <student> i have an airport card
[08:11] <revolution27> but hot do i get the icon?
[08:11] <BluesKaj> bbl, finally got some snow to push :)
[08:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj yeah located in /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.prerm
[08:12] <intelikey> BluesKaj most packages have  prerm postrm  preinst and postinst  scripts.
[08:13] <intelikey> oh and a .list  that is a record of what the package.deb actually installed.
[08:17] <frojnd> Hawkwind by anc chance here?
[08:17] <frojnd> any
[08:18] <intelikey> Hawkwind your phone is ringing.
[08:18] <intelikey> frojnd i haven't seen him say anything in a while.
[08:19] <intelikey> hours
[08:19] <frojnd> hm
[08:19] <frojnd> :)
[08:21] <frojnd> nevermind HawkWind...
[08:23] <Hawkwind> frojnd: ??
[08:24] <frojnd> I had some problems with avidemux and I somehow connected with moive apocalypto (iMBT) and that u might have seen it...
[08:25] <Hawkwind> Ummm, nope.  Not my type of movie at all.  What made you think of me and that movie together ?
[08:25] <frojnd> ScT :)
[08:26] <goeki> j
[08:28] <Hawkwind> Nope, haven't seen it and probably won't
[08:30] <frojnd> I just got a thought nothing more :)
[08:36] <murat> hi
[08:37] <murat> does anybody installed scorched3d ?
[08:38] <vge> !skype
[08:38] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:38] <HailandKill> intelikey That has seemed to have fixed it. Thanks very much!
[08:38] <revolution27> everytime i type qtparted into adept it closes, why?
[08:38] <xHerr4> hello!
[08:38] <vge> someone can tell me how to enter "enter" -key in skype chat?
[08:39] <xHerr4> did have a people that can to install a tar.gz program??
[08:39] <xHerr4> help!
[08:39] <xHerr4> helppppppppppp!!!
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> did have a people that can to install?
[08:40] <Dasnipa`> wtf
[08:43] <fdoving> xHerr4: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[08:43] <K`zan> what does one need to play flash in firefox, so far tried swf-player and flashplayer-mozilla, do I need the non-free one?  TIA!
[08:43] <xHerr4> ok thank you!
[08:43] <fdoving> !flash9 | k`zan
[08:43] <ubotu> k`zan: flash9 is available from dapper-backports and edgy-backports now, see !backports
[08:44] <K`zan> fdoving: Thanks, checing it out now.
[08:44] <xHerr4> euh...
[08:44] <xHerr4> dou you have it in french??
[08:44] <Dasnipa`> !fr
[08:44] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:44] <K`zan> !backports
[08:44] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[08:44] <xHerr4> ok thank
[08:49] <K`zan> ubotu: added: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted and did the update and still no flash9 found?!?
[08:49] <nalioth> K`zan: flash 9 isn't in the reops
[08:50] <nalioth> !tell K`zan about flash
[08:50] <K`zan> fdoving: added: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main universe multiverse restricted and did the update and still no flash9 found?!?
[08:51] <K`zan> !tell K`zan about flash
[08:51] <nalioth> K`zan: look for private messages
[08:51] <K`zan> nalioth: I'm doing something wrong here :-/
[08:53] <nalioth> !flash
[08:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <nalioth> K`zan: ^^^
[08:55] <K`zan> nalioth: seems to be for older versions than edgy :-(.
[08:55] <K`zan> nalioth: Got things I have to go do, will look into it a bit later.
[08:59] <jann> hi, does anybody have experience with the skype plugin for kopete (http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/). i'd like to use it but cant find it in the repositories. i downloaded the file but dont know what to do now. thanks.
[08:59] <zorglu_> !feisty
[08:59] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[09:06] <cpk1> hrmm are you supposed to unmount a camera before you unplug it?
[09:06] <cloakable> Ja
[09:06] <cloakable> Yep
[09:08] <cpk1> hmm i dont think i see it in mount...
[09:08] <TurnTheOtherWay> hmm first time irc. plenty here, anyone help me with install probs?
[09:09] <xeen7_7> Somebody here knows how to install EMC ? it is the programm for CNC-Coding
[09:10] <ronald_> k
[09:10] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay: whats wrong?
[09:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> yknow theres a desktop screen before it lets you install?
[09:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> tryout kinda thing
[09:12] <cpk1> and...?
[09:12] <marcolinux> ragazzi sono l'unico a star impazzendo con linux?
[09:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> the desktop doesnt load it just turns into a screen of coloured bars and flashes
[09:13] <marcolinux> hello!
[09:13] <fdoving> !it | marcolinux
[09:13] <ubotu> marcolinux: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:13] <rindolf> Hi all.
[09:14] <rindolf> Can anyone try to reproduce this bug with KDE 3.5.5? http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=27999 . One has to set the windows style to Keramik and use it with FocusFollowsMouse.
[09:17] <TurnTheOtherWay_> argh connection reset. now my timed out self is here
[09:18] <php-freak> hey guys how can i view all devices that are installed on my usb drivers
[09:19] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: try starting in vga mode
[09:19] <KaiserSuse> php-freak: lsusb
[09:20] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: you have an nvidia?
[09:20] <TurnTheOtherWay_> yes
[09:20] <TurnTheOtherWay_> how do you start in vga?
[09:20] <KaiserSuse> php-freak: on second thought... I don't really understand yer question
[09:20] <php-freak> Bus 004 Device 012: ID 0711:0900 Magic Control Technology Corp. SVGA Adapter
[09:20] <php-freak> well its saying its there
[09:21] <php-freak> im trying to get that working
[09:21] <php-freak> its for dual screen monitor support
[09:21] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: are you on the computer you are trying to install linux on right now? if you start in safe mode i think you can switch to tty1 and you will get a fine screen
[09:22] <cpk1> i cant remember the command to start in vga
[09:22] <php-freak> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 well read this right here under linux
[09:22] <php-freak> says it works with linux
[09:22] <zorglu_> hmm a vga via usb ? i miss something, i mean usb bus is not fast enought to send the content of the vga.. no ?
[09:23] <php-freak> Pros: Works with the sisusb driver for 2.6.x kernels and sisusb x.org driver. Works great out of the box with SuSE 10.1
[09:23] <php-freak> 2.0 is
[09:23] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: im on that comp, yes. you mean start in safe mode in kubuntu install?
[09:24] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: also, whats tty1?
[09:24] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: yes and then switch to tty1 (press ctl alt f1)
[09:24] <cpk1> hopefully you will get a clear picture
[09:25] <php-freak> any one know how i can get this to work? with that driver?
[09:25] <cpk1> and then you will need to use the command line to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:25] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: ill try that first part, thanks. but why the conf file?
[09:25] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: but, there should be a way to start in vga (iirc safemode is supposed to but it doesnt in edgy)
[09:26] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: when you get to all the boot options from the cd there is also some help text, read through that and see if there is a vga option
[09:26] <zorglu_> well i was wrong apparently vga via usb is possible :)
[09:26] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: vga wouldnt be necessary if tty1 works?
[09:27] <php-freak> hey guys do you know how I can get this to work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 well read this right here under linux
[09:27] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: if tty1 works then you will still need to make sure X is using vga
[09:27] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: once you get it installed you wont need vga anymore though dont worry =)
[09:28] <intelikey> have oddity.   pt_chown: needs to be installed setuid `root'
[09:28] <intelikey> Cannot chmod /dev/ttyp0 to 620 currently 666: Operation not permitted
[09:28] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: X? also, why would vga be required (and are these messages being sent only between us?)
[09:28] <intelikey> but if i chmod that to 620 then the error  cant chmod to 666  comes up   why all the chmoding ?
 cpk1: X? also, why would vga be required (and are these
[09:29] <intelikey>                    messages being sent only between us?)
[09:29] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: everyone can see these, and i dunno why vga is required but every *buntu install I have done my nvidia card always has problems and I have had to install in vga mode
[09:31] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: if you get to tty1 though then you will need to do "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then look for Section "Device" and change here: Driver         "nvidia" change the nvidia to vga
[09:31] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk!: so they can lol. the addressing just sends to freenode too. ill try those things thanks
[09:31] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: sudo nano?
[09:31] <cpk1> unless someone else (intelikey maybe?) knows how to start in vga from the edgy install cd
[09:32] <intelikey> !irc | TurnTheOtherWay_
[09:32] <ubotu> TurnTheOtherWay_: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[09:32] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: sudo makes you do a command as root and nano is a very user friendly text editor
[09:32] <intelikey> the last url ^
[09:32] <revolution27> hey, anyone know any free software similiar to garageband or frooty loops?
[09:33] <intelikey> !guidelines
[09:33] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:33] <revolution27> was that for me?
[09:34] <TurnTheOtherWay_> thanks intel. first timer lol. and thanks cpk ill try those out... now wheres my cd?
[09:34] <intelikey> heh for one and all
[09:34] <revolution27> lol
[09:34] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay_ yeah i gathered that.
[09:35] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: hopefully that works for you, if you cant get to tty1 then read the help provided on the cd at the boot options menu and see if there are any options you can do from there
[09:35] <TurnTheOtherWay_> cpk1: alright ty. just need to copy down instructs before i boot cd lol
[09:35] <cpk1> and hopefully you wrote this stuff down =P
[09:36] <TurnTheOtherWay_> one step ahead of ya :p
[09:36] <intelikey> revolution27 searching the package database for those key words draws a blank.
[09:36] <cpk1> i'm going to be gone for several hours though so hopefully this works =)
[09:36] <TurnTheOtherWay_> lol if it doesnt i hope theres someone around :s
[09:36] <intelikey> there's always someone around.
[09:37] <cpk1> TurnTheOtherWay_: and dont worry about having to install in vga, once i installed I was able to get the nvidia drivers installed and dont have any problems with it
[09:37] <TurnTheOtherWay_> oh one more general thing anyone. does kubuntu have GRUB?
[09:37] <intelikey> yes
[09:38] <TurnTheOtherWay_> and does it add in other OS's automatically?
[09:38] <TurnTheOtherWay_> or is manualadd necessary?
[09:38] <intelikey> grub is the default boot loader.  and it does a pretty good job of adding other (M$) os's
[09:39] <intelikey> not as good with other *nix os's   but that is to be expected.
[09:39] <desync> grub automatically added my winxp install on my 2nd drive, and make my 2nd drive look like it's the only drive so xp boots as if nothing changed
[09:40] <intelikey> with linux you can name your kernel anything and put it anywhere, which makes it a little more tricky to autodetect
[09:40] <php-freak> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16812203013 does any one know how to get this to work, it said it wors with linux?
[09:41] <php-freak> I have xp drivers setting here, but no linux drives
[09:42] <php-freak> http://www.strotmann.de/twiki/bin/view/Microusb/UsbDevices also says linux driver exist here too
[09:42] <revolution27> hey, (i dunno if this is even legal but) does anyone know how to get amarok to play music purchased from itunes?
[09:43] <revolution27> the format seems to be m4p
[09:43] <intelikey> !mp3
[09:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <TurnTheOtherWay_> m4p is itunes pprotected :/
[09:43] <zorglu_> http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisusbvga.shtml <- php-freak
[09:44] <intelikey> if the answer is not there then i have no clue ^
[09:44] <revolution27> yeh m4p is protected.. but i'll look it up
[09:44] <revolution27> i hate itunes for that
[09:44] <php-freak> hehe
[09:44] <TurnTheOtherWay_> an m4p won't run with anything else as far as i know
[09:44] <php-freak> zorglu: is this it?
[09:44] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay_ ah you mean legal hateware.
[09:45] <intelikey> nice.  who would pay for such a thing ?
[09:45] <zorglu_> php-freak: what do you mean ? it explain exactly how to plug your stuff
[09:45] <revolution27> that's a good way t odescribe it ;)
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> anyone who wants music from itunes
[09:45] <revolution27> i got gift cards, that's why
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> who has one of thsoe little cards
[09:45] <TurnTheOtherWay_> yeah
[09:45] <php-freak> zorglu: lol, but I mean this should fix it, this is what i need right?
[09:45] <peryska> q es esto?
[09:46] <TurnTheOtherWay_> and in itunes, they even label songs with nice big EXPLICIT signs
[09:46] <peryska> hola a todo/asa
[09:46] <TurnTheOtherWay_> unremovable ofcourse
[09:46] <php-freak> zorglu: sorry i might of confused you
[09:46] <zorglu_> php-freak: i think so. the original page say it is a sisusb. and the page i gave you is for sisusb
[09:46] <intelikey> your money man.  not my problem.  sorry i mentioned it.
[09:46] <zorglu_> !tag | php-freak
[09:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:46] <zorglu_> !tab | php-freak
[09:46] <ubotu> php-freak: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[09:47] <peryska> ok
[09:47] <php-freak> k
[09:47] <revolution27> anyone know an itunes replacement that accepts international credit cards? I don't think so
[09:47] <intelikey> by choice.
[09:47] <TurnTheOtherWay_> lol yes enough of this i have kubntu to install. have fun everyone
[09:47] <php-freak> zorglu_: is there a way my current onboard video card I can make it where it will have higher resolution?
[09:47] <php-freak> maybe just by a little bit
[09:48] <zorglu_> php-freak: i dont understand your question, can you rephrase
[09:48] <peryska> agur a todos
[09:48] <intelikey> !resolution | php-freak
[09:48] <ubotu> php-freak: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:48] <peryska> voy a informarme un poco de esto
[09:48] <peryska> lo siento
[09:48] <zorglu_> !es | peryska
[09:48] <ubotu> peryska: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:49] <peryska> gracias
[09:49] <peryska> esto es interesante
[09:49] <peryska> gracias
[09:50] <php-freak>
[09:50] <php-freak> This driver is only provided in source code. This source code compiles under Linux 2.6.9 and newer kernels. 2.4
[09:50] <php-freak> how can i tell if my nix matches that?
[09:50] <intelikey> it does
[09:50] <zorglu_> "uname -a" will give you the version of kernel you got
[09:50] <intelikey> but to answer your Q    uname -a
[09:50] <zorglu_> which is higher than '2.6.9'
[09:51] <zorglu_> aka 'it does' :)
[09:52] <php-freak>  2.6.17-10
[09:52] <php-freak> will it work?
[09:53] <zorglu_> .17 is higher than .9
[09:53] <zorglu_>  This source code compiles under Linux 2.6.9 and newer kernels.  <- from what you pasted
[09:53] <peryska> no entiendo nada
[09:53] <php-freak> man
[09:53] <php-freak> so it won't work?
[09:53] <peryska> agur
[09:54] <zorglu_> peryska: here we speak english and most of us dont understand what you are saying :0
[09:54] <php-freak> zorglu: can you help me with this, im tottaly lost
[09:54] <zorglu_> php-freak: ????
[09:54] <php-freak> get this installed
[09:54] <intelikey> php-freak back to my first answer to "<php-freak> how can i tell if my nix matches that?"    "<intelikey> it does"
[09:54] <zorglu_> php-freak: well .17 is newer than .9
[09:54] <zorglu_> but clearly to compile a kernel will be painfull for you
[09:55] <php-freak> yea
[09:55] <zorglu_> hmm maybe you can compile only the module tho :)
[09:55] <php-freak> how can i get this done
[09:55] <php-freak> yea
[09:55] <php-freak> zorlglu_: will you help me please?
[09:55] <zorglu_> sorry no time
[10:00] <BluesKaj> intelikey, I went to the clamav site and was able follow their instructions for reinstalling clamav successfully..then i just removed it
[10:01] <intelikey> cool.
[10:01] <intelikey> i started to install it just to see what it was... hehhe
[10:02] <BluesKaj> pita is what it is
[10:02] <intelikey> you should see the way people act when you say "i dont have antivirus software"      then they really phr33k out when you say "and no firewall"   :)
[10:03] <BluesKaj> yeah  :)
[10:04] <intelikey> and when i say something like last install was over a year ago and not one crash.....    :)
[10:04] <esaym> anyone know of a replacement for the windows version of angry ip scanner http://www.angryziber.com/ipscan/
[10:04] <BluesKaj> i'm behind a router so I just use avg on my windows partition
[10:04] <esaym> I really miss an app like that in linux
[10:05] <intelikey> BluesKaj but i get the same looks from people in here when i say "i don't have any partitions"   so i guess it's all in what you are used to.
[10:06] <brett__> what is a good ftp program for linux
[10:07] <BluesKaj> well intelikey, I'm not quite "there" yet but i will be soon ...once i get tovid and todisc cli commands figured out and working I'l prolly kiss the NTFS partition goodbye
[10:07] <intelikey> esaym   nessus - Remote network security auditor, the client  &  nessusd - Remote network security auditor, the server         +     nmapfe - The Network Mapper Front End
[10:07] <cntb> please join kubuntu torrent download http://cargol.net/~ramon/ubuntu-dvd-en
[10:08] <intelikey> !spam | cntb
[10:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spam - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:08] <intelikey> hmmm didn't that used to work.
[10:08] <intelikey> anyway   don't spam the channel
[10:09] <esaym> hmm
[10:09] <brett__> does anyone know any ftp programs for linux?
[10:09] <esaym> can nmap scan ranges?
[10:10] <intelikey> esaym there are a lot more apps  it all depends on what you want to do.
[10:10] <intelikey> ranges of ip's or ranges of ports ?
[10:10] <esaym> just something quick and easy
[10:10] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey: know anything about nano?
[10:10] <esaym> just scanning 1 or 2 ports on a netrange
[10:10] <fdoving> cntb: around?
[10:10] <intelikey> yeah TurnTheOtherWay   ^ means hold the ctrl key down
[10:11] <esaym> like scan <IP_ADDRESS>-1<IP_ADDRESS> for open port 80
[10:11] <TurnTheOtherWay> ahhh isee
[10:12] <intelikey> esaym yes   but you might need to use it cli to get that out of it.   the nmapfe  fe=frontend a gui
[10:12] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey: tried to edit xorg but couldnt use the ^ lol so couldnt install. its a little confusing lol.
[10:13] <TurnTheOtherWay> esaym: what makes you want to scan for open ports lol?
[10:13] <esaym> check for servers when I get on a new network
[10:13] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay yes they could have made the help pages a little easier to find    of course hitting f1 is kinda a criptic way to access help
[10:14] <esaym> what is cli?
[10:14] <intelikey> !cli
[10:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:14] <TurnTheOtherWay> i couldnt find anything useful in the helps
[10:14] <esaym> oh rofl
[10:14] <carlos> quick question. how do I unlock my /var/lib/dpkg ?
[10:14] <bbeck_> I just installed nvidia-glx, and it replaced my smp kernel with a non-smp kernel.  Is there a way that I can have nvidia drivers and use an smp kernel?
[10:14] <fdoving> !adept crash fix | carlos
[10:14] <ubotu> carlos: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay in nano   hit [f1]
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia-drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <K`zan> !nvidia_drivers
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia_drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <esaym> can nmap scan ip ranges?
[10:15] <BluesKaj> CLI - Command Line Interface or terminal or konsole or console :)
[10:15] <carlos> thanks fdoving !1
[10:15] <esaym> i have knmap
[10:15] <fdoving> you're welcome carlos.
[10:15] <carlos> thanks ubotu
[10:15] <intelikey> !ati | K`zan
[10:15] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:15] <BluesKaj> !ati/nvidia
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <TurnTheOtherWay> intelikey ahh i see. thanks intel.
[10:16] <TurnTheOtherWay> !vga
[10:16] <intelikey> K`zan also !nvidia  is the same infonode.
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <BluesKaj> !svga
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about svga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <TurnTheOtherWay> !xorg
[10:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <BluesKaj> hehe..dumb bot
[10:16] <intelikey> TurnTheOtherWay no problemo
[10:16] <intelikey> de nada
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> useful little bot
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> !sda3
[10:17] <intelikey> !bot
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sda3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:17] <TurnTheOtherWay> lol
[10:17] <esaym> ok nmap can scan ranges
[10:18] <TurnTheOtherWay> *goes to install kubuntu again*
[10:18] <intelikey> yes and regex is as handy as a pocket on a shirt.
[10:18] <intelikey> man regex
[10:20] <intelikey> ok back around after last rounds.
[10:20] <look> HI
[10:22] <revolution27> for anyone who want's to know how to convert protected m4p files to unprotected m4a files (to allow itunes purchased music to be played anywhere) goto http://www.hymn-project.org/download.php )
[10:22] <revolution27> It should be legal if you bought and own the music
[10:23] <K`zan> I need access to restricted repositories and the howto doesn't say what that is, does that mean: "main restricted " (which I have, but no nvidia binary driver) ?
[10:24] <ftld> what command tells me how much of a volume is in use?
[10:24] <ftld> what command tells me how full a volume is?
[10:24] <K`zan> also no "Restricted copyright" box in manage repositories ?!?
[10:25] <K`zan> Ah, synaptic....
[10:25] <Jucato> K`zan: restricted is already enabled by default
[10:26] <ftld> err, i didn't mean to say that twice in here
[10:26] <ftld> oh well
[10:27] <K`zan> Jucato: THanks, now to figure out why it can't find the nvidia drivers, going to load synaptic and see if that finds it.
[10:27] <Jucato> nvidia-glx?
[10:27] <K`zan> Jucato: Not sure, always downloaded and installed the drivers from the nvidia site in gentoo...
[10:27] <SSJ> ftld:Try "df"
[10:28] <Jucato> K`zan: that's the name of the nvidia package
[10:28] <Jucato> SSJ: df shows you the amount of free disk space... (Disk Free)
[10:28] <K`zan> Ah, OK, thanks Jucato !  Checking now.
[10:29] <K`zan> Jucato: Don't think so :-(: These XFree86 4.x/X.Org binary drivers provide optimized hardware acceleration
[10:29] <K`zan> looking for nvidia, not xorg drivers.
[10:29] <Jucato> ??
[10:29] <Jucato> !nvidia-glx
[10:29] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[10:30] <K`zan> Jucato: That is what it says about nvidia-glx
[10:30] <Jucato> and?
[10:30] <K`zan> Ah, OK, RTFM :-) NVIDIA binary :)
[10:30] <Linux_Galore> hai Jucato
[10:31] <Jucato> hi
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: I took that to be xorg drivers...
[10:31] <Jucato> :)
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: New to debian (again :-).
[10:31] <K`zan> Jucato: Been running gentoo for the past few years...
[10:31] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: the nv driver is usually supplied with the xorg package
[10:32] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Yes, but that one leaves MUCH to be desired :-).
[10:32] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: I know, blame nvidia for lack of documentation
[10:32] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: I do indeed...
[10:33] <K`zan> I also need kernel source for something (I installed 64 bit and too many apps I want / need do not run under it, so I am transitioning to 32bit).
[10:33] <Linux_Galore> wish Intel made a decent graphics drivers, i965 even though having a open source driver with 3d still lacks allot
[10:34] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: I will not touch anything intel puts out if I can avoid it :-/.
[10:34] <Linux_Galore> s/drivers/chipsets/
[10:36] <K`zan> ok, lemme reboot the beast and see if it worked, brb.
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Linux_Galore, bad windoze habit
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: you know you dont have to reboot to load the driver
[10:40] <HailandKill> Too late
[10:40] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Always have in the past - no nvidia splash screen, I don't think this is what I wanted... checking.
[10:41] <CVirus> K`zan: why did you move away from Gentoo ?
[10:41] <K`zan> Linux_Galore: Nope it isn't: Driver          "nv"
[10:41] <Linux_Galore> K`zan: just log out then press press ctrl alt backspace   that reloads the x server and the "driver"
[10:41] <Jucato> K`zan: did you run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" already?
[10:41] <K`zan> CVirus: Pissing matches are killing it and apps I need are no longer in portage.
[10:42] <Jucato> or "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[10:42] <CVirus> pissing matches ?
[10:42] <K`zan> Jucato: No, but will to see what happens.
[10:42] <Jucato> K`zan: then no wonder your driver is still nv
[10:42] <CVirus> portage almost contains everything
[10:42] <Jucato> !nvidia | K`zan
[10:42] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <K`zan> CVirus: People to whom being important is more important than gentoos wellbeing.
[10:43] <Jucato> K`zan: you also need to install the linux-restricted-modules that matches the kernel you are using
[10:43] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:43] <K`zan> Jucato: That seems to have changed the xorg.conf, restarting x, brb
[10:44] <Jucato> hm.. did he install the restricted modules already?
[10:44] <K`zan> That got it, thanks MUCH all!
[10:45] <K`zan> crap, the url for the nvidia binary driver howto didn't survive the restart, again please?
[10:46] <Jucato> doesn't matter if you got it working already :)
[10:46] <binks> hi i installed pyqt and qt4 designer but it doesnt show up in development menu how do i start it
[10:47] <BluesKaj> K 'zan  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:47] <K`zan> Jucato: Was just concerned that there might be something else I needed to run besides the xorg.conf update thing you gave me.
[10:48] <Jucato> !nvidia | K`zan
[10:48] <ubotu> K`zan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <K`zan> BluesKaj: Thanks much!
[10:48] <K`zan> Jucato: you too :-).
[10:51] <BluesKaj> K`zan, np :)
[10:52] <jpiccolo> a new version a feisty is out?
[10:53] <Riddell> ** Kubuntu meeting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-meeting
[10:54] <Jucato> jpiccolo: none yet, afaik.
[10:54] <Jucato> Herd 2 isn't out yet
[10:54] <jpiccolo> i am running herd 1
[10:55] <jpiccolo> and when i goto update it says "A new version of Kubuntu is available! Click next if you wish to upgrade now."
[10:56] <jpiccolo> i click next and adept update manager dies
[10:56] <bobleny> Is there some kind of documentation for kubuntu's terminal commands?
[10:57] <fdoving> !cli | bobleny
[10:57] <ubotu> bobleny: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:57] <bobleny> cli!?
[10:58] <Jucato> Command Line Interface
[10:58] <jpiccolo> cli is the terminal
[10:58] <jpiccolo> ^
[10:58] <bobleny> Oh
[10:58] <bobleny> Is there a diffrence in commands from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[10:59] <jpiccolo> not really
[10:59] <Jucato> none
[10:59] <bobleny> you say that like there is?
[10:59] <bobleny> ok
[10:59] <Jucato> except when you are talking about specific apps
[10:59] <jpiccolo> well i mean some programs will have different names
[10:59] <bobleny> oh
[10:59] <bobleny> No big deal there
[10:59] <jpiccolo> yeah
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> bobbyd, ubuntu & kubuntu are the same distro using different desktops
[11:01] <bobleny> Is there a way to password protect files in your home folder?
[11:02] <LjL> bobleny: encrypt them
[11:02] <bobleny> How do I do that?
[11:02] <matthias> hi
[11:02] <matthias> how do i select wish java jre i want to use?
[11:02] <matthias> i know that there was anything with dpkg but i dont know what
[11:03] <LjL> !kgpg | bobleny
[11:03] <ubotu> kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB
[11:04] <bobleny> k
[11:05] <bobleny> thanks (8-)
[11:05] <josh_> i have superkaramba runnin
[11:05] <josh_> how do i get the docks to see my cpu temp and fan rpm's
[11:06] <josh_> i have an nforce 430 chipset
[11:06] <matthias> or was it sth like update-alternatives?
[11:06] <matthias> i got it on my own: update-alternatives --config java
[11:08] <BluesKaj> what's the best way to upgrade the JRE version over the one in the repos ?
[11:08] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, download it?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> trying the deb pkg download din't work ...it caused an installer prob
[11:09] <josh_> www.getautomatix.com
[11:09] <josh_> has all the drivers/software you need for that kind of stuff
[11:09] <josh_> adobe reader, p2p clients
[11:09] <BluesKaj> no josh_, automatix isn't for me... not a good excperience
[11:09] <josh_> java/flash for firefox
[11:10] <josh_> really?
[11:10] <BluesKaj> broken pkgs
[11:10] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, just download the installer from java
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper> BluesKaj, you got synaptic installed?
[11:11] <Dasnipa`> BluesKaj, i went and aliased it to a different name so when i want to run 1.5 i run with java5 and and 1.4 is just java
[11:11] <josh_> oh
[11:11] <josh_> ok well can someone help me with the sensors
[11:12] <josh_> i want to monitor cpu and fan
[11:13] <Jucato> BluesKaj: what installer problem?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> Dasnipa`, I wish it was that easy ...I had probs with it not having the right dependencies previously installed
[11:15] <BluesKaj> anyway, I'm at a site that seems to be what i need helpwise...thx anyway
[11:15] <Croupier> hi there
[11:16] <Tido> what package do I need to connect to subversion as a client?
[11:16] <LjL> Tido: subversion
[11:16] <LjL> or if you want a GUI too
[11:17] <LjL> !kdesdk-kio-plugins
[11:17] <LjL> !kdesvn
[11:17] <ubotu> kdesdk-kio-plugins: subversion ioslave for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 435 kB, installed size 880 kB
[11:17] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 1405 kB, installed size 3304 kB
[11:17] <farkr> i have a dual boot system (win2000/linux) and win2k only supports up to 32gb fat32 partitions. do you think it would work to make two 32gb fat32 partitions so i can use one for my music and one for my movies?
[11:18] <fxr> hello can i ask a question?
[11:18] <Lynoure> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:18] <fxr> does anyone know if this how-to should work for my radeon 9600se: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[11:18] <Dasnipa`> farkr, it isnt windows that only supports fat32 up to 32 gb its a restriction on the filesystem itself
[11:19] <farkr> i thought fat32 goes up to 2 TB
[11:19] <Dasnipa`> farkr, wtf crack are you on?
[11:19] <farkr> it said it on the msdn site
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> fat16 could do, 4 gb if i recall... fat32 brought that number to 32
[11:20] <Dasnipa`> maybe ntfs is the 2tb one
[11:20] <zeekstarr> I've been having a problem not being able to download files bigger than 4.3 gig, something about thats the biggest file allowed on my fat32 ( I dual boot as well)
[11:20] <farkr> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154997
[11:20] <farkr> FAT32 supports drives up to 2 terabytes in size.
[11:20] <farkr> NOTE: Microsoft Windows 2000 only supports FAT32 partitions up to a size of 32 GB.
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> XP as well
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> of course
[11:21] <Jucato> yes, but file sizes in FAT32 are limited to 4GB afaik
[11:21] <farkr> 2gb i think
[11:21] <LeeJunFan> yeah, 2
[11:21] <zeekstarr> what can I do to allow bigger file sizes. i can't download dvd isos right now
[11:22] <Dasnipa`> farkr, i dont think thats quite accurate in the article
[11:22] <Jucato> oh there, 2GB :)
[11:23] <farkr> anyways my question was is making multiple 32gb fat32 partitions the best solution so i can still read/write my data from win2k?
[11:24] <x86> why not use ntfs and some open source NTFS linux drivers?
[11:24] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: use a different filesystem.
[11:24] <farkr> x86 too dangerous
[11:24] <Chousuke> iirc there is an ext2 driver for win2k
[11:24] <farkr> since i have no other way to backup
[11:25] <farkr> those are only good for read only, not writing, they corrupt things
[11:25] <x86> yeah there are ext2 and ext3 drivers for windows :)
[11:25] <zeekstarr> LeeJunFan: Yea I knew that much, but I need a fat32 so I can dual boot XP and Kubuntu and share my 250gig hd between them
[11:25] <farkr> those things corrupted me is the reason im lookin for a fat32 solution right now ;0
[11:25] <Dasnipa`> farkr, yes i found it. actually the most recent version of fat32 supports 8 TB while yes the max filesize is still 4 gigs
[11:26] <zeekstarr> is that a setting that perhaps could be changed in partition magic (boot up)?
[11:28] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: http://www.fs-driver.org/
[11:29] <zeekstarr> I've already got gigs upon gigs of files ont his fat32
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> zeekstarr: don't know what to tell you FAT32 isn't going to hold dvd iso's. You could possibly use windows XP to convert Fat32 to ntfs and use a fuse base ntfs fs driver which allows r/w for the linux use.
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> !fuse
[11:31] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> I don't know how unsafe it is - I've used it a bit w/o any problems.
[11:32] <JosefK> is there any way to have the bookmarks toolbar only show in the Web View profile of konqueror?
[11:32] <TheDebugger> How about ntfs-3g?
[11:33] <Jucato> JosefK: unfortunately, no
[11:33] <JosefK> Jucato: alas, this seems like a serious flaw.  I'll check to see if I can hack it into the config files by hand
[11:34] <Jucato> JosefK: good luck. but afaik, no amount of config hacking answers that
[11:34] <Jucato> it's really in the code. a *gasp* limitation of Konqueror
[11:35] <JosefK> crikey :/
[11:36] <silya> Hi all! There is many mistakes in russian translation in kubuntu 6.10 :/ Who coordiantes it?
[11:37] <K`zan> Silya if you know Russian, get involved and help fix it!
[11:40] <daveyarusso> I have an odd disk issue.  I had two partitions, deleted one (using GParted on an Ubuntu Live CD), and then grew the first into the space.  Now, I seem to have an 11 GB _partition_, but only a 5.4 GB filesystem (same as it had before on the first).  How do I fix it?
[11:42] <hassan2a> hello
[11:42] <hassan2a> who playing to enemy territory ?
[11:46] <JosefK> no dice with the config files, there are keys for Hidden etc. for each of the toolbars, but konqueror just ignores them
[11:46] <JosefK> it must be stored somewhere else, but wherever it is isn't in .kde/share/apps/konqueror
[11:47] <lupine_85> daveyarusso: run resize2fs on it?
[11:47] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Works for ext3 as well as ext2 presumably?
[11:47] <lupine_85> you can do online resizing into a larger partition, so you don't need to be in a live cd to do so
[11:47] <lupine_85> yeah, works fine
[11:47] <nixternal> !ops
[11:47] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato or DBO
[11:47] <lupine_85> just sudo resize2fs devicefile
[11:48] <gnomefreak> .opme
[11:48] <fdoving> hm?
[11:48] <lupine_85> ...?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ?
[11:48] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ?
[11:48] <fdoving> wrong chan i belive..
[11:48] <Jucato> ??
[11:48] <nixternal> wrong window ;)
[11:48] <nixternal> haha
[11:48] <nixternal> shhh
[11:48] <lupine_85> lol
[11:48] <gnomefreak> it was taken care of in #ubuntu
[11:48] <nixternal> back to the meeting
[11:48] <Jucato> bah
[11:48] <Jucato> :P
[11:48] <lupine_85> thought I'd been caught sekeretly selling Windows Vista there ;)
[11:49] <Jucato> JosefK: I've been telling you, it's not possible. but feel free to dig around if you still want to
[11:49] <LjL> hey
[11:49] <LjL> wrong window but... *nobody was affected*?`that's a first
[11:49] <klerfayt> I got problems with monitor turning blank after some minutes then I'm away - what could be the cause?
[11:49] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: I'll give it a try.  Thanks.
[11:49] <lupine_85> np, I do it a lot with my LM partitions :)
[11:49] <JosefK> Jucato: heh, I'm nothing if not persistent
[11:49] <lupine_85> erm, LVM
[11:49] <Jucato> good luck
[11:49] <JosefK> Jucato: nice to see the rush of people with ideas in #kde too...
[11:50] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Tony may find you for LVM help sometime... ;)
[11:50] <lupine_85> seriously, I hacked through it
[11:51] <lupine_85> now it's working, it's incredibly cool though
[11:51] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: You sure it doesn't need to be a live CD?  I got "/dev/hdc3 is mounted; can't resize a mounted filesystem!"
[11:52] <lupine_85> strange. dapper or edgy?
[11:52] <daveyarusso> Dapper
[11:52] <K`zan> brb
[11:52] <lupine_85> hmm. the older kernel might not have support for on-line resizing built in :/
[11:53] <lupine_85> worked fine on edgy
[11:53] <lupine_85> sorry, I just assume everyone's on edgy ;)
[11:53] <lupine_85> LTS--
[11:53] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Aaah.  That seems likely.  Well, we can get resize2fs on the live CD anyway.
[11:54] <hassan2a> anyone playing to enemy territory ?
[11:54] <lupine_85> hassan2a: not right now...
[11:54] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Is the package name for that the same as the command (if you know offhand)?
[11:54] <lupine_85> it's hard to play ET and use IRC at the same time :p
[11:54] <hassan2a> erf
[11:55] <hassan2a> isn't hard ^^
[11:55] <lupine_85> t'isn't easy ^^ desu
[11:55] <lupine_85> daveyarusso: e2fsprogs: /sbin/resize2fs
[11:56] <daveyarusso> lupine_85: Great.  Thanks.
[11:59] <fxr> hi ve tried about a thousand howtos' to get fglrx working with my radeon 9200se i keep killing X
[12:00] <fxr> its really starting to frustrate me
[12:00] <fxr> can anyone offer any ideas where i might be going wrong?
[12:00] <Jucato> !ati
[12:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:04] <fxr> ***The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higher, or it is in the X series (e.g. X300), or it has TV-Out capability. The 'fglrx' driver does not support cards earlier than the 8500.***
[12:05] <fxr> does that mean my 9200 is supported, its not totally clear
[12:05] <desync> i've given up on fglrx with my x1300
[12:13] <lupine_85> fxr: it probably means it isn't
[12:14] <foob> when i type "sudo ntfsmount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1/ -o umask=0007" i get: "Use the force option to work a mounted filesystem. Mount failed." What should I do?