[00:00] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: we're answering your questions, however when we ask questions of you example: what version, you aren't providing answers..moving forward helpers will require your full cooperation if you want help
[00:01] <qwebirc69881> Under my apps I see Software & Updates, and Software Updater, I see nothing else unless I have to open this through the terminal
[00:01] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: i hope you find it...because you'll have some questions you'll need to answer yourself or actions to take when you get back
[00:02] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: open terminal>  sudo apt install inxi
[00:02] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: let me know when done
[00:02] <mooses> RoscoePColtrane: nice solution :-)
[00:02] <LulaLivre13> Lula para sempre 13
[00:02] <RoscoePColtrane> mooses: thanks :)
[00:02] <qwebirc69881> RosoePColltrane, sorry about that. Multitasking is hard for me, so I must have been addressing another members response and missed the request for version number
[00:03] <qwebirc69881> I have the latest version of Ubuntu, the Bionic Beaver version
[00:03] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: that's okay..we're long past asking for version numbers...let me know when done
[00:03] <LulaLivre13> Lula para sempre 13
[00:04] <mooses> qwebirc69881: what happens in terminal if you just type:
[00:04] <mooses> software-center
[00:04] <mooses> and hit enter
[00:04] <LulaLivre13> Lula para sempre 13
[00:04] <adrian_1908> mooses: `gnome-software` I think
[00:05] <adrian_1908> !es | LulaLivre13
[00:05] <RoscoePColtrane> software-center is the package name
[00:05] <R13ose> Bashing-om: everything backup but some hardware issues I will fix later.
[00:07] <qwebirc69881> Here are the results for the two request made.   <RoscoePColtrane>...    sudo apt install inxi [sudo] password for linuxm:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package inxi linuxm@linux-HP:~$ //// moose.....   software-center software-center: command not found
[00:08] <qwebirc69881> My install can't loacate any thing lol
[00:08] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: i see that
[00:09] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: you can't find packages that are known for certain to be in the repositories for 16.x/18.x....maybe you saw some "404" errors scroll past
[00:10] <qwebirc69881> I can look for 404 errors in my terminal going back if you want
[00:10] <Krennic> anyone knows how to install compiz on ubuntu 18.04
[00:10] <RoscoePColtrane> qwebirc69881: sure give a look....but a smell a reinstall in your future already
[00:11] <RoscoePColtrane> i smell
[00:13] <qwebirc69881> What else can I try from here before going that route?  There's about a 50% chance that my hard drives only work now because I didn't select to install updates on the install disc.
[00:13] <qwebirc69881> There were no 404 errors
[00:13] <qwebirc69881> There may have been yesterday when I tried to install other things, like html5 codecs but I can't be sure.
[00:14] <qwebirc69881> Nothing is installing so far
[00:16] <qwebirc69881> The "sudo upgrade" command (paraphrsing) went through a long list of things that it downloaded and installed which then required a reboot but other than that nothing has worked.
[00:19] <JFox762> hmm
[00:19] <LulaLivre13> Lula para sempre 13
[00:19] <JFox762> What is Lula Livre?
[00:20] <adrian_1908> qwebirc69881: run the following in its entirety:   sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt -y update && sudo apt -y full-upgrade
[00:20] <iehusha> hi Am Have su error su: Module is unknown Any Have Anything on This fo us
[00:21] <iehusha> Don't Typically use irc support But Have already Went Through Googld Searches And There Noy Much on anything
[00:21] <JFox762> So I'm having trouble with hibernate. I enabled the function a week or two ago,... and it was working fine. All of a sudden it stopped working.
[00:22] <JFox762> the Laptop shuts off, but it doesn't resume from where I left off
[00:22] <JFox762> It acts as if it was simply shut off... and restarted
[00:22] <JFox762> I'm wondering if something happened to the SWAP Partition?
[00:23] <qwebirc69881> Adrian, do you know if that installs any hard drive drivers or system updates that are related to how external HD's function?
[00:24] <adrian_1908> qwebirc69881: if you cannot install updates, there's no future for your Ubuntu installation anyway. you're wasting your time.
[00:29] <qwebirc69881> Right, I'd imagine I can install updates I was just wondering if there was a way to exclude HD uptates.  I'll hold onto hope that it wasn't the updates that messed up my hard drives durring the first installation of Ubuntu and try this if I have no other option.  The only two things that could have allowed the Hard drive to start functioning on the latest install is that I didn't do updates with the install, and I didn't have th
[00:30] <qwebirc69881> ....shared partions this time
[00:31] <qwebirc69881> I'm hoping it was the way I had it partitioned that was messing it up, the install worked okay other than the Hard drive suddenly bottoming out at less than 1mb sec transfer rate which would bod down the OS.
[00:32] <qwebirc69881> *Bogg down
[00:32] <pantato> I'm trying to post an answer to someone's question on askubuntu.com. My answer contains xml code and I'm having trouble inserting it into the body of the answer. Code blocks italics are all not working
[00:33] <adrian_1908> qwebirc69881: Generally, fundamental hardware like harddrives and device drivers are so thoroughly tested, that it's unlikely you can into an actual software bug.
[00:33] <LulaLivre13> 13
[00:34] <adrian_1908> s/can/ran
[00:35] <qwebirc69881> I'll try to keep that in mind, I'll see what the command you mentioned does.
[00:35] <pantato> hello? anyone?
[00:35] <pantato> I'm trying to post an answer to someone's question on askubuntu.com. My answer contains xml code and I'm having trouble inserting it into the body of the answer. Code blocks italics are all not working
[00:35] <iehusha> This Is The pam.d/su file https://pastebin.com/ZeAMpBCE
[00:37] <howarth> anyone here running the nvidia drivers?
[00:37] <howarth> nvidia-340 is a bloody mess
[00:38] <adrian_1908> pantato: no idea. Maybe XML (being so similar to HTML) is an edge case they haven't covered?
[00:38] <howarth> I got it to build the kernel drivers but there are no nvidia video drivers added to the initrd.img
[00:39] <qwebirc69881> Adrian, it did not appear to do much.  I can give more of what it said, but the terminal ended with... "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[00:40] <pantato> adrian_1908: yeah, i ended up just making a paste bin and inserting the link. The question + my answer is here if you're curious https://askubuntu.com/questions/942916/how-to-install-a-version-of-qemu-and-libvirt-that-doesnt-come-with-apt-get/1083564#1083564
[00:41] <qwebirc69881> Two other notes.. It said  "universe' distribution component is already enabled for all sources." and "(appstreamcli:6114): WARNING **: 20:36:10.482: No origin found for file us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_bionic_universe_dep11_Components-amd64.yml.gz"
[00:43] <qwebirc69881> It said the same for the Multiverse components about there being no orgin found
[00:43] <qwebirc69881> I'll be back on in 5 minutes
[00:43] <adrian_1908> Good luck, I'm out of ideas :)
[00:54] <howarth> so the nvidia modules are dkms and not in the img
[00:54] <howarth> do I need to do anything to force them to load at boot?
[00:55] <howarth> I seriously don't trust the nvidia-340 packaging to do this right
[00:55] <howarth> I assume /etc/modules
[00:55] <Krennic> hmm
[00:56] <blackflow> howarth: to what end?
[00:56] <howarth> I have to use nvidia-340
[00:56] <howarth> I have a GTX-680 flashed with Mac ROMs
[00:56] <howarth> after exhausting testing and help from Nvidia it was suggested I drop down to 340
[00:57] <howarth> Sure enough rpmfusion 340 works perfectly under Fedora 28
[00:57] <blackflow> I mean why do you think you need it in the initramfs?   And I don't know if it's normally there or not.
[00:57] <howarth> I don't but I am wondering if I need to do something to make sure it loads
[00:57] <howarth> like add it to /etc/modules
[00:58] <howarth> perhaps someone on nvidia-390 or nvidia-396 can look at what they have in /etc
[00:58] <howarth> I see the blacklisting for nouveau
[00:58] <howarth> but nothing to force nvidia to load
[00:59] <blackflow> it's loaded automatically through device probe but I guess sure, why not, you could list it there explicitly
[01:07] <qwebirc69881> I suppose I will have to reinstall the OS then.  I'm close to giving up on Ubuntu, I like the idea of better security and less intrusiveness from the OS creators but the errors combined with the fact that linux is still largely reliant on text based commands no doubt has help keep Windows popular.  Windows OS's tick me off in many respects, so I understand the need for an alternative but there's so much more than needs to be don
[01:08] <qwebirc69881> Thanks for the help though, y'all tried
[01:10] <mooses> qwebirc69881: Don't take this the wrong way, but you did something weird/broke something.  Ubuntu ships with a totally functional software manager.  Be wary of googling how to do things and blindly copy/pasting commands.
[01:11] <mooses> qwebirc69881: if you reinstall, take it slow this time
[01:13] <qwebirc69881> moose, the only thing I did was not click the update option on the install disc on the third install, the other two installs didn't have this problem (just a range of more minor ones) what did it in was that the OS crashed my Hard Drives.
[01:14] <qwebirc69881> Perhaps it's a hardware compatibility issue
[01:16] <TJ-> qwebirc69881: the reason we use the shell/command-line is we can be precise and quick in giving instructions and receiving the results. Getting the same quality of info from a GUI, relayed by someone who may not be familiar with terms or context, is painful for everyone concerned.
[01:19] <qwebirc69881> I'm not giving up yet, I'll see what happens the next time around.  TJ, I'm not referencing the members here giving terminal commands VS. GUI instructions, y'all have been helpful, I think my argument is that Linux distros are still largely dependant on text based commands, in some cases that's how they function entirely with no GUI.  Some may like that though, so I'm simply giving an opinion.
[01:22] <TJ-> qwebirc69881: your "appstream" errors are due to corruption of the package lists - possibly related to on-disk corruption or possibly whilst over the network. There is a way to clean that out and try again: "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*; sudo apt update" which deletes the stored lists and then fetches them again
[01:24] <qwebirc69881>  I'll give that a try really quick before a reinstall, thanks
[01:27] <howarth> woohoo, a successful reboot under the nvidia-340
[01:27] <howarth> now to open some launchpad bug reports tomorrow
[01:27] <howarth> the Mac ROM'd GTX doesn't play well with the new drm stuff post 340
[01:29] <qwebirc69881> TJ, I get the following messages, but it did update the packages......  rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/auxfiles': Is a directory ////  rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[01:31] <TJ-> qwebirc69881: that's fine, we didn't want it to remove directories, just the files containing lists of packages
[01:34] <qwebirc69881> I think that may have worked actually.  I need to try to install more things but it appears to be installing the package manager that wouldn't install before.  Thanks for that, I have to put though further testing but it did something.
[01:35] <qwebirc69881> brb
[01:37] <vladfi1> at installtion I have set up some of my disks to be mounted in /mnt
[01:38] <vladfi1> the permissions are root/plugdev, and I've added myself to plugdev. However, I still can't access those disks
[01:38] <vladfi1> (due to permission denied)
[01:39] <iehusha> https://pastebin.com/anaiUcBf Anybody Can Run Suggestion On This re: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801333
[01:41] <qwebirc69881> So far so good I think the package manager synaptic finally installed, I'm not sure how to open it yet but in the meantime I can try to install what was needed for youtube videos to load just to see if I run into more dead ends.  I was told that I need to type this into the terminal for html5 to work....  "sudo apt install libavcodec-extra"  Is that good, or will it mess something up?
[01:42] <qwebirc69881> Perhaps I can do it though synaptic, I just need to read up on how to open and use it
[01:44] <OhPie> hi - installing ubuntu 18 on virtual box, do I need Livepatch enabled, new to linux.
[01:46] <Bashing-om> OhPie: "need: to no ... server in production ,, maybe really want to .
[01:46] <OhPie> ok, no, then.  just tinkering, learning.  Thanks.
[01:47] <qwebirc69881> Opening synaptic was easy enough, it works.  I'll look at that, if anyone has input on getting html5 to work so that online videos load give me a holler.  I'll likely need help locating the package for that.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> !Livepatch | OhPie
[01:53] <OhPie> Bashing-om ░  ( : ty
[02:11] <qwebirc69881> I have to go for now, thanks for the help tonight!
[02:46] <[Eli]> Hello everyone, new to Ubuntu and to Linux too here, I installed Ubuntu 18.10 beta, I've been getting updates like crazy, once this beta is released to the general public will I then be in the regular public channel as everyone else or will I still be receiving all these pre-release patches and updates?
[02:48] <hggdh> [Eli]: your Cosmic will get all updates to be 18.10 official
[03:03] <Bashing-om> [Eli]: And as you have entered testing - 18.10 - please report your results : https://lubuntu.me/test-cosmic-rcs/ .
[03:13] <NerdTheThird> which kernel version is gonna be in 18.10?
[03:19] <Ubuntu1804LTS> Hi
[03:19] <Ubuntu1804LTS> Richard Stallman doesn’t like ubuntu
[03:21] <NerdTheThird> thanks
[03:26] <Bashing-om> !linux-image-generic cosmic | NerdTheThird
[03:27] <NerdTheThird> !linux-image-generic cosmic
[03:27] <NerdTheThird> lol this bot told me nothing useful
 Sorry, I don't know anything about linux-image-generic cosmic
[03:28] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic cosmic
[03:29] <NerdTheThird> oh nice
[03:29] <NerdTheThird> so it's LTS kernel
[03:31] <Bashing-om> NerdTheThird: Support for 18.10 is in #ubuntu+1 channel .
[03:31] <NerdTheThird> are you a bot?
[03:36] <Loshki> [Eli]: if you are new to Linux and Ubuntu, you should start with something more stable e.g. 16.04.4 LTS
[03:38] <NerdTheThird> how is 18.04.1 not stable tho?
[03:52] <FishBone000> Could someone explain the root folder?
[03:53] <FishBone000> it's hard to understand for a windows user like me
[03:53] <hggdh> FishBone000: is sort of similar to the C:\ directory
[03:53] <hggdh> or d:\, etc
[03:53] <FishBone000> but it's not a disk i guess
[03:53] <hggdh> but on UNIX in general, there is only one root for all
[03:54] <hggdh> no, it is not a disk. It is the top directory in the filesystems
[04:03] <FishBone000> Sorry i was afk for a while
[04:04] <FishBone000> So, the filesystem of linux is totally different from windows's?
[04:04] <hggdh> yes, they are. Although you can mount NTFS on Linux as well
[04:05] <FishBone000> And, is that why I couldnt choose the location for installation of linux?
[04:05] <hggdh> ?
[04:05] <FishBone000> I mean
[04:05] <FishBone000> Is that why I couldnt let the linux installer choos a location as if installing another windows system?
[04:06] <FishBone000> Like
[04:06] <FishBone000> I cant let it install in D:\ because linux'
[04:06] <FishBone000> *linux's filesystem is different from window's
[04:07] <hggdh> indeed
[04:07] <FishBone000> So, where is my linux system?
[04:07] <FishBone000> I mean, where did the installer install it to?
[04:08] <hggdh> I do not know what you answered when installing, so I cannot even imagine
[04:09] <FishBone000> Well
[04:09] <FishBone000> The installer asked me nothing
[04:09] <FishBone000> It even didn't let me choose the location
[04:09] <FishBone000> It just, installed
[04:10] <hggdh> that's rather strange. Anyways, if it got installed, you could reboot and get into Linux
[04:11] <FishBone000> I'm using linux
[04:12] <FishBone000> So, how can i know the location now?
[04:13] <hggdh> well, yes, but it is a bit technical. you can issue the command mount, and look for the dev/sd* lines. These will be partitions of the disk
[04:13] <FishBone000> It seems my linux is in another hard disk in my laptop (it's pretty strange that my laptop has 2 disks, and the 2nd one is much smaller, which only has about 10 GB space)
[04:13] <TJ-> FishBone000: "lsblk" is helpful to show the disks, partitions, and mounted file-systems
[04:17] <FishBone000> TJ- thanks, the command seems helpful
[04:17] <FishBone000> Besides, what is loop?
[04:17] <FishBone000> and how can i manage partitions?
[04:20] <hggdh> FishBone000: the loop devices are pseudo-disks.
[04:20] <TJ-> loop devices are virtual devices, so for example you can have a file that contains a file-system, and attach it to a loop device in order to access it just like a regular block device (disk)
[04:22] <FishBone000> I see
[04:22] <FishBone000> and what is loop devices for?
[04:26] <justyb11> FishBone000, Loop device, is exactly what it sounds like.  Allows you to loop something back to the system.
[04:27] <justyb11> FishBone000, Good example of this is ISO files.  The system takes a file and loops it back to look like an actual CD or DVD block device.
[04:27] <TJ-> FishBone000: you might have an ISO CD image. You can mount that via a loop device as if it were a CD
[04:41] <tnss> i wonder
[04:41] <tnss> will ubuntu 19.04 have Nautilus 3.32 now that GNOME has implimented an extension for desktop icons.
[04:42] <hggdh> tnss: perhaps. If 3.32 is stable enough, good chance. But this is something for after Cosmic is released
[04:43] <tnss> i even heard that the extension is available for the 3.28 nightly Flatpak builds of Nautilus
[04:44] <demu> Hi, is this a bug kill -l works but kill --list doesn't
[04:47] <demu> ubuntu 14.04
[05:17] <littlekitty> hi I want to write a while loop that runs until a float is equal or over 100
[05:17] <littlekitty> this is what I came up with
[05:17] <littlekitty> (oh, talking about shell script btw haha)
[05:17] <littlekitty> while [ $(bc <<< "${progress} < 100") ] ; do echo "$progress"; progress=$(bc <<< "${progress} + 1") ; done
[05:17] <littlekitty> my problem is it doesn't stop
[05:18] <Kalka> donk
[05:18] <Kalka> ban me pussies
[05:20] <littlekitty> ok I'm in a blind end  while [ 0 ] ; do echo "$progress"; progress=$(bc <<< "${progress} + 1") ; done
[05:20] <littlekitty> doesn't work
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> littlekitty: sounds like a ##linux question
[05:21] <littlekitty> lotuspsychje: okay I'll post it there
[05:21] <littlekitty> thanks
[06:45] <geirha> In this case you could also strip off the decimals and do integer comparison;  while (( ${progress%.*} < 100 )); do ...; done
[07:24] <ChiLL-Two> Tquit
[07:24] <ChiLL-Two> sudo shutdown -h now
[08:07] <gtrmtx> hey guys, if nc -zv, as well as an online port checker, verifies that a port is open, and netstat -ltp verifies that the port is listening, but the service that i am trying to access via web gui using that port is not able to be reached, what does that mean?
[09:54] <Galactor_> hello! I was wondering, is there an antivirus for Linux (specifically ubuntu?) or is there even a need for it?
[09:56] <Galactor_> ?
[09:57] <blackflow> Galactor_: there's ClamAV but it works with a database that's not just linux specific, and it's not very efficient. As for the need.... well... there's a lot of vulnerabilities in a lot of programs. Whether those are exploited in a way that a running "antivirus" would detect... I don't know, and personally I doubt it.
[09:58] <OerHeks> Galactor_, yes, there is clamav and rootkit hunter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[09:59] <OerHeks> nowadays static antivirus definitions are useless when targeted by design/personalised malware
[10:00] <Galactor_> thanks! OerHeks and blackflow ! What about "cleaner" programs? I used to use ccleaner on my windows, but what would be a linix alternative?
[10:00] <blackflow> apt install --reinstall   :))
[10:00] <DVS-1> Hi, I wish to configure unattended-upgrades to upgrade only security packages and packages from a private repository. Is there a way to blacklist a package ONLY from the security repository so that it will only use the private repository for that specific package?
[10:02] <OerHeks> Galactor_, there is bleachbit, but carefull withthat powerfull tool, i rarely use it
[10:02] <OerHeks> !info bleachbit
[10:03] <Galactor_> OerHeks: I'll give it a look :) but read the man first before using
[10:05] <OerHeks> DVS-1, if that private repository go newer versions, those will be used i guess, and why limit to security only ?? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[10:08] <DVS-1> OerHeks> That's the requirement.. so isn't there a way to blacklist a package:repository?
[10:13] <OerHeks> DVS-1, i think you can, see the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades file, but i wonder why one would do that
[10:15] <OerHeks> "You can also selectively disable auto-update on a package level, by adding package names to "Unattended-Upgrade::Package-Blacklist"
[10:18] <DVS-1> OerHeks> I know of the package level blacklist, problem is that I want to upgrade that package from the private repository, but mustn't upgrade it from other repos
[10:20] <DVS-1> OerHeks> There will be duplicate packages between the repositories and I must get them ONLY from the private repository
[10:20] <OerHeks> that only works if your repo gives a newer version than the original/our repo
[10:21] <DVS-1> OerHeks> I see. Many thanks mate :)
[10:21] <OerHeks> have fun!
[10:53] <piraye> hi everyone!
[10:55] <gpunk> :=
[10:56] <piraye> I have tried to ran this /kenlm/build$ bin/lmplz -o 5 -S 80% -T /tmp <wiki.txt >text.arpa in command line of server and I got error which is ran out of disc and solution of this Point -T to a drive with a lot of disk. how can I point to another disc in server?
[10:58] <piraye> btw my disc information here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sfvBXB9zYM/
[10:58] <blackflow> piraye: assuming I understand -T from your example, you point -T to a mountpoint
[10:59] <blackflow> piraye: that's xen virtualization. you need a new virtual disk
[10:59] <piraye> blackflow how can obtain it?
[10:59] <blackflow> piraye: ask your hosting company. or consider enlarging current drive, it's only 8G
[11:00] <piraye> how can I enlarge it?
[11:00] <blackflow> piraye: ask your hosting company.  :)   that 'or' was not 'ask or', but get a new drive OR enlarge existing. but definitely ask them.
[11:01] <blackflow> piraye: that's a server on public internet, right?
[11:01] <piraye> yes
[11:01] <piraye> but it is not free
[11:01] <piraye> what should I tell them
[11:02] <blackflow> then also consider either hiring a sysadmin who knows how to handle it, OR educate yourself but not running a public server. your lack of knowledge and experience will lead to compromise and then your server will be used to attack others online, which would be your fault.
[11:02] <blackflow> that's a friendly advice, btw. :)
[11:03] <blackflow> piraye: if you don't know what to tell them, after I just told you what, then you seriously should not be running a public server.
[11:03] <piraye> it is amazon
[11:05] <blackflow> piraye: surely there's an upgrade button, or a procedure how to enlarge existing or get additional disk space. maybe there's a knowledge base, unfortunately I don't use amazon so I can't tell you from personal experience where help is.
[11:05] <blackflow> but definitely consider hiring a competent sysadmin to handle that for you.
[11:07] <piraye> I never hire anyone before for do something to me
[11:10] <blackflow> piraye: then how do you expect to operate a rather complex information system like that, in a hostile environment like the public internet is, if you yourself don't know how, and don't hire someone who knows?
[11:19] <dimm> hello, All!
[11:19] <dimm> why dvd tray opening?
[11:19] <dimm> in bios not opening, but when os booted then opening
[11:20] <OerHeks> dimm, you asked that yesterdat yoo
[11:20] <OerHeks> c/too
[11:20] <OerHeks> use a paperclip, insert disc, and boot
[11:21] <deskwizard> O/ Howdy
[11:22] <SimonNL> but when os booted then opening  <= why paperclip needed ?
[11:28] <patrickk> What is the command to see which versions of php I can install?
[11:29] <blackflow> patrickk: apt-cache policy php    ?
[11:31] <patrickk> What is the best repo for PHP in Ubuntu? I am new to Ubuntu and always have used iUS with CentOS in the past
[11:31] <patrickk> for PHP 7.2 that is
[11:31] <blackflow> patrickk: ubuntu's own official repo is. 7.2 on Bionic.
[11:32] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/php
[11:32] <patrickk> Am on Ubuntu 16.04
[11:33] <adrian_1908> patrickk: for that https://launchpad.net/%7Eondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php is a good choice.
[11:33] <patrickk> hm okay thanks
[11:38] <troozers> Hi Gurus, any idea why Ubuntu 18.04.1 keeps mounting a LUKS encrypted USB drive as read-only?
[11:39] <[Eli]> @hggdh, Bashing-om and Loshki  thank you.
[11:39] <troozers> Sorry, it's not read-only... it keeps auto-mounting with root permissions only
[11:40] <OerHeks> troozers, sounds like an error in the file system or drive
[11:41] <ioria> troozers, ls -l /media/$USER/my-device
[11:41] <ioria>
[11:41] <TJ-> troozers: depends on what comand is used to mount it, and what ownership/permissions the file-system has
[11:43] <troozers> USB drive was automounted under /media/my-username/my-device - kinda assumed it would mount things under there with the user permissions set to my-username
[11:43] <troozers> Using stock 18.04.1 with Gnome
[11:44] <ioria>    troozers not necessarily; the first time you need to chown the mount directoy
[11:44] <troozers> No prob, will do - just thought there was a FUBAR going on somewhere
[11:45] <blackflow> troozers: mountpoints have two parts. local mount POINT (local dir you mount at), and the target filesytem. when oyu mount, local point disappears and becomes the target, so if the target fs "root" is not owned by your uid, it won't be.
[11:45] <ioria> toolz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage#Mount_Encrypted_Filesystem
[11:45] <ioria> troozers, , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemsOnRemovableStorage#Mount_Encrypted_Filesystem
[11:45] <troozers> Many thanks blackflow - appreciate the heads up :)
[11:46] <nisankhindia> troozers: do you want your LUKS encrypted drive as regular user ???
[11:46] <nisankhindia> troozers: do you want to mount your LUKS encrypted drive as regular user ???
[11:46] <troozers> yes
[11:47] <blackflow> troozers: often problem arises if you created the target FS under a different distro that had your non-root username with different numeric UID
[11:47] <nisankhindia> troozers: first thing first .. root access is required to open a LUKS container. You can, however, configure sudo to restrict root access to LUKS only
[11:47] <troozers> Created the disk on the same box, but obviously had to use "sudo" to run cryptsetup and mkfs.ext4 on the drive
[11:48] <blackflow> troozers: then by default the fs root will be uid=0, so all you need is to chown the mountpoint AFTER you mount it.
[11:48] <ioria> troozers, i'd add the -R recursive flag to the cmd above
[11:49] <blackflow> ioria: I wouldn't blindly. dependson what's there. chances are it's all single user owned, but still...
[11:50] <troozers> many thanks
[11:57] <nisankhindia> This is to just remind again : #Ubuntu channel supports Ubuntu as well as kubuntu , ubuntu budgie , Kubuntu etc as they are official flavours of Ubuntu , link https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[12:03] <dimm> OerHeks, sorry, connection was broken =( my trouble is not that i can't boot. OS boot fine.
[12:03] <dimm> SimonNL, yes, it is openin after booting in random moment, i close it by hand, then it open. May be after several seconds, may be several minutes
[12:04] <blackflow> it's possessed!
[12:12] <coz_> dimm,  I am not on ubuntu at the moment, however, did you maybe save your session?
[12:15] <TJ-> dimm: what is the 'it' that is opening, I think I missed your earlier reports
[12:16]  * TJ- guesses it is the file-manager to some (external) file-system
[12:16] <coz_> mmm
[12:17] <coconut> Are there ways to temporarily disable a videocard, and start using the cpu build-in graphics?
[12:17] <coconut> To spare some heat and noise?
[12:18] <coz_> coconut,  via bios I would guess
[12:18] <TJ-> coconut: usually tools provided by bumblebee, or possibly nvidia-prime
[12:18] <coz_> coconut, which video card?
[12:18] <coconut> ok, thank you both.
[12:19] <coconut> coz_: ehm, videocard in new laptop i still have to buy from tuxedocomputers
[12:19] <coz_> coconut, ok>?
[12:20] <ekshunya> hi
[12:20] <ekshunya> this is confusing me, i already search on google, but couldn't find exact answer...
[12:20] <coconut> And i haven't made a choise yet, but probably nvidia GTX 1060 or 1070.
[12:21] <coz_> coconut,  in terminal   lspci
[12:21] <ekshunya> do GRUB comes up with MBR in harddisk, or Ubuntu installs it???
[12:21] <coconut> coz_: can i come back on this when my laptop arrives?
[12:22] <coz_> coconut,  absolutely
[12:22] <coconut> ok, you rock :)
[12:28] <blackflow> ekshunya: grub does not install or define partitioning scheme, so in this case ubuntu installer did/does or some other partitioning mechanism is used.
[12:29] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: GRUB is related to Linux , you can find it with any linux distribution , firt Ubuntu , debian , fedora , arc , ROSA etc all are based on Linux OS ..
[12:29] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: in simple world it is GRand Unified Bootloader
[12:30] <nisankhindia> eksunya: it has three basic operations or principals
[12:31] <nisankhindia> eksunya: to now more about GRUB read https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/
[12:33] <ekshunya> thx @nisankhindia blackflow
[12:34] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: the original GRUB website http://www.uruk.org/grub/
[12:36] <ekshunya> I think i got it about GRUB, but In MBR if I get fresh hard disk, Is MBR is already installed on that hard disk???
[12:37] <ducasse> ekshunya: usually not, but these aren't really ubunntu questions
[12:39] <ekshunya> ducasse, ok, so ubuntu on installation put MBR and GRUB on hard disk??
[12:39] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: read some books related to hardware , architecture and software philosophy ( basically these all can be found in any college or university books ) good luck
[12:40] <ekshunya> @nisankhindia, @ducasse ok thanks.
[12:40] <ducasse> ekshunya: yes, it writes a partition table (mbr) and a bootloader (grub)
[12:40] <OerHeks> "use whole disk"gives a fresh mbr too
[12:41] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: this cahnnel is supposed to support ubuntu related quesries or issues so , you may find it hard to get such question answers here , i request you to get some books which is easily available or some university free library repositories where you will find all of such information free of cost and free of choice .. have a nice time ahead
[12:43] <ekshunya> ducasse, thanks that was confusing me most.
[12:44] <ekshunya> nisankhindia, Yup... even i come to channel after reading many blogs... it's just little confusion about how ubuntu linux doing with MBR and GRUB on starting pc. :)
[12:44] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: you are intrested to know things so even this channel is for ubuntu related support . i will give you some other resources . where from you are ?? you country ?? so that i can show you some avaibale university books repository and elearning portals for free
[12:45] <ekshunya> From India, you can tell by my name. :)
[12:47] <nisankhindia> ekshunya: there are many opensource elearning portal from Govt of India , courses , graduation and masters free of cost .. You can opt any of them by your choice and can get all these information
[13:02] <Adamyno> How can I move the top gnome panel to bottom?
[13:03] <Adamyno> there are some extensions but not works
[13:03] <OerHeks> systemsettings > dock > position on the screen
[13:04] <OerHeks> works fine here, without logout/login again
[13:04] <OerHeks> oh, top gnome panel, misread
[13:05] <OerHeks> i think you need a gnome extention like this: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/208/panel-settings/
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:05] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[13:06] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[13:07] <Adamyno> tried, after installation it shows ERROR
[13:23] <Adamyno> I installed MMOD panel extension. Now the gnome panel is at bottom :)
[13:25] <BluesKaj> where it should be :-)
[14:02] <coconut> Is there any hardware database with working devices on ubuntu? (or linux in general)
[14:03] <coconut> As i don't dare to test my bose mini 2 soundlink.
[14:03] <TJ-> coconut: there are some but there are so many devices they're always either incomplete or out of dat
[14:04] <TJ-> coconut: best solution usually is a web-search for the model and "linux"
[14:04] <coconut> (i destroid an apple magic mouse 2 once on Linux elementaryOS)
[14:05] <coconut> thank you JT-. :D
[14:05] <TJ-> coconut: how did you destroy it? trying to upload new firmware to it? I can't imagine how that could happen otherwise, not from software anyhow. Electrical issues when connecting/disconnecting, I can imagine
[14:11] <coconut> TJ-: i destroid it by basicly just pairing and using it. (a previous version of elementary though). By destroying i mean the mouse went unrecoverable slow, and i was not capable to make it go fast anymore. (not on mac either).
[14:14] <coconut> But i will google a little, thank you.
[14:17] <EoflaOE> hi BluesKaj
[14:18] <BluesKaj> hi EoflaOE
[14:20] <TJ-> coconut: Well, if it is a Bluetooth device that is doubly improbably. Going slow would suggest to me a battery issue
[14:21] <coconut> TJ-: no new batteries did not fix it, i tried.
[14:23] <TJ-> coconut: have you cleaned it?
[14:24] <coconut> TJ-: no, i think i still have the mouse somewhere.
[14:24] <TJ-> coconut: I'm reading an article on that device and the problem you describe, and it says (after checking the battery terminals are tight) "...The second reason your Magic Mouse may be skipping or hesitating is that debris, dirt, dust, and gunk have become lodged in the mouse's optical sensor. There's a simple fix for this, one that just requires giving the sensor a good cleaning."
[14:24] <TJ-> coconut: read about the battery terminals too: https://www.lifewire.com/fix-magic-mouse-tracking-error-2260770
[14:25] <coconut> i cannot read now though.
[14:25] <coconut> but thank you, it's appriciated.
[14:38] <system16> im trying to setup pptp (plz dont ask why) vpn connection. it keeps saying that vpn service quit unexpectedly
[14:38] <system16> commands that i ran :
[14:38] <system16> sudo apt-get install pptp-linux
[14:38] <system16> sudo apt-get install network-manager-pptp network-manager-pptp-gnome
[14:39] <system16> all ran just fine
[14:40] <eelstrebor> i changed my hostname and it shows up ok on my account but not on other users - other users just get a $
[14:46] <TJ-> system16: are you using network-manager to define and bring up the connection?
[14:46] <coconut> TJ-: i don't think things like dirt has happend, because it happend twise
[14:47] <system16> TJ-, idk i just followed instructions on this web page https://askubuntu.com/questions/308584/vpn-pptp-in-lubuntu
[14:47] <system16> i used the network connections app
[14:48] <coconut> TJ-: i don't think things like dirt has happend, because it happend twice. I think i still have one broken one somewhere. I don't know is there a known place where i can send it to?
[14:48] <system16> located in preferences
[14:48] <TJ-> system16: press the network icon in the taskbar, choose "Edit Connections..." and either create a new, or edit your existing, VPN connection
[14:48] <system16> i did that
[14:49] <system16> it quits when i give the password
[14:49] <TJ-> coconut: not that I know of, but that article I linked to has some interesting tips
[14:49] <coconut> ah.ok, thanks
[14:49] <TJ-> system16: Right, so then that will be logged. Try connecting again right now, then immediately after it fails open a terminal and do "pastebinit <( tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog )" so we can see what was going on
[15:24] <cylonmath> Hello, I want to remove whole QT5 packages, and downgrade it (because I had a problem with this version and my google search shows that previous versions do not have this problem). What is the command for this?
[16:00] <FrostFeline> I'm having a problem with LVM. I tried to create a raid1 volume with 2 PVs and it failed.
[16:00] <FrostFeline> Now I can't remove the _rimage_0 and _rimage_1 leftovers that only show up with lvs -a
[16:00] <FrostFeline> and if I try to recreate the disk it fails because the logical volume "exists"
[16:12] <SuperCat> hello there!
[16:21] <hggdh> SuperCat: no political statements here, please
[16:32] <hggdh> SuperCat: Actually, given your behaviour in other Ubuntu channels, I am banning you here.
[16:32] <hggdh> SuperCat: you can join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it further
[16:51] <granttrec> do you guys recommend clang from the ppa or the repos?
[17:02] <gambl0re> hello?
[17:02] <gambl0re> when i try to watch 1080p60 in chrome. video runs laggy. any ideas?
[17:03] <ioria> gambl0re, for reference :  https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/10/hardware-acceleration-chrome-linux
[17:06] <gambl0re> i see. does it work in firefox
[17:12] <iresf> hello github fucked me to download some packages  it is so slow on ubuntu
[17:14] <BluesKaj> iresf, watch the  language please
[17:15] <iresf> BluesKaj : im angry right now
[17:15] <ducasse> iresf: still, there are guidelines here
[17:15] <BluesKaj> no matter
[17:16] <iresf> BluesKaj : so close your mouth
[17:17] <BluesKaj> iresf, attitude goes a long way here, if want help, otherwise go elsewhere for ir
[17:18] <BluesKaj> it
[17:18] <kumool> gambl0re, you check in about:support
[17:27] <BluesKaj> heh, good riddance
[17:27] <core7> if i do ifconfig, I can't see the interface which should show. dmesg shows me e1000 nic detected at 1Gbit duplex. How do I fix this?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> core7, try ip add
[17:29] <BluesKaj> ifconfig is depracated
[17:29] <core7> BluesKaj: how does this happen - an hour ago everything was working - and now the card doesnt even show up in ifconfig.
[17:30] <core7> BluesKaj: in the networkmanager, i do see a 1000Mbit wired connection - but no ip
[17:31] <BluesKaj> core7, like i said, try ip add
[17:34] <core7> BluesKaj: Thanks. Will try soon
[17:38] <BluesKaj> core7, it should look something like this,  https://bpaste.net/show/8ad04244be59
[18:08] <feetongrass> #linux
[18:13] <NoCode> Why is Gnome Tweak Tool having such a hard time enabling the compose key, and doing it right?
[18:13] <NoCode> How can I set the compose key from the terminal?
[18:19] <OerHeks> GTT works fine here, to enable compse key alt gr + shift
[18:27] <ezzieyguywuf> whenever I run `bzr builddeb -- -nc -uc -us`, for some reason it still rebuilds the whole package despite the "-nc" flag. Am I not using this flag correctly?
[18:40] <AmbroseWaketon> Any reason why my USB keyboard I just got isn't working correctly with Ubuntu 18.04.1? The function keys work fine, but the other keys won't type.
[18:42] <mra90> how can I check to what physical address of the device PCI BAR points to?
[18:43] <mra90> I mean in PCI BAR0 I see some address which clearly points to device memory, the question is what location exactly?
[18:43] <mra90> plus, how was it set so it points where it does
[18:45] <tomreyn> AmbroseWaketon: does it work with any other OS, other linux distro or ubuntu release? if not, it's more likely a hardware issue.
[18:45] <tomreyn> AmbroseWaketon: you could also try plugging it into diffferent usb ports
[18:51] <eelstrebor> interesting, installing mainline kernel 4.18.14 on one of my bionic boxes kills it (won't boot) - i don't know what's differnt other than it's an older xps15 laptop
[18:53] <gpunk> how did you make it? install it?
[18:54] <gpunk> you must have done it wrong ...
[18:54] <hggdh> eelstrebor: mainline kernels are only expected to be used when testing if a bug is in the upstream code, or the Ubuntu changes.
[18:55] <hggdh> eelstrebor: just for the record, using a mainline outside testing is not a good idea
[18:57] <eelstrebor> it may not be a good idea but it's worked so far - this box i'm on now is running 4.18.14 and is working fine - 4.17.x and 14.18.x have worked well on all boxes on my net except the one
[18:58] <eelstrebor> gpunk, talking to me?
[18:58] <gpunk> yes
[18:58] <eelstrebor> i used a debian package to install the kernel and it's headers
[18:59] <gpunk> dkms might have failed for your video driver
[18:59] <eelstrebor> dpkg -i *4.18.14-*.deb
[18:59] <AmbroseWaketon> @tomreyn It works on Windows and in the boot menu, just not once Ubuntu has booted. And I've tried it in every different port on the laptop, including my USB hub
[18:59] <gpunk> "wont boot" is very vague
[19:00]  * OerHeks mumbles update-grub
[19:00] <eelstrebor> gpunk, it just hangs on the splash screnn - i didn't bother to check the logs to see if anything was captured but i doubt it
[19:00] <gpunk> well, have fun
[19:01] <eelstrebor> gpunk, i just booted from one of the stock kernels and removed 4.18.14 and all is fine for now - i do remember that 4.18.13 worked on that box though but the box was running xenial at that time
[19:03] <eelstrebor> btw, i don't like the wayland desktop - i'm sticking with unity on bionic for now
[19:03] <granttrec> so I installed clang from the ppa but it only comes up as clang-6.0, instead of clang, any ideas?
[19:03] <tomreyn> AmbroseWaketon: hmm, this suggests it has something to do with linux indeed. i'm not sure how to diagnose it further, maybe this can help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/USB
[19:04] <granttrec> funny enough whereis shows the right location
[19:05] <AmbroseWaketon> @tomreyn the thing is, the function keys work, as does escape and a few others, just none of the numbers, letters, etc.
[19:05] <granttrec> but its installed as /usr/bin/clang-6.0
[19:05] <granttrec> will a symlink work?
[19:05] <OerHeks> granttrec, sounds correct to me, but why from ppa? bionic gives clang 6.x too
[19:05] <OerHeks> !info clang
[19:05] <granttrec> OerHeks: I am still on xenial
[19:06] <granttrec> neat bot
[19:08] <granttrec> all the binaries have 6.0 on the end any ideas?
[19:08] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon, we can't do nothing without a working kb, i suggest plugging another  kb , connect the troubled one and check usb-devices
[19:09] <AmbroseWaketon> @ioria I do have a working kb
[19:09] <AmbroseWaketon> I'm using a usb kb on a laptop
[19:10] <AmbroseWaketon> so I still have the built-in kb
[19:10] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon, so , connect the one, run and paste  'usb-devices'
[19:11] <AmbroseWaketon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hNdQqSfDKn/
[19:12] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  i guess is the Logitech ?
[19:13] <AmbroseWaketon> @ioria it should be the HP. Logitech is my mouse, which works fine
[19:13] <AmbroseWaketon> Primax Electronics, HP Wireless Keyboard Mouse Kit
[19:14] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  sudo rmmod usbhid && sudo modprobe usbhid
[19:15] <AmbroseWaketon> ioria, comes back empty
[19:15] <ph88> when more repositories offer the same package how to choose from which repo it will be installed ?
[19:15] <ph88> is it also possible to ignore a package from a repository ?
[19:15] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  test the usb kb
[19:16] <AmbroseWaketon> ioria, nothing. No text showing up. Function keys still work tho, and things like the windows-key.
[19:19] <granttrec> for any curious update-alternatives is what I was looking for
[19:19] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  what is a Lenovo laptop ?
[19:20] <AmbroseWaketon> ?
[19:20] <AmbroseWaketon> what do you mean?
[19:20] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  your laptop , what is ?
[19:21] <AmbroseWaketon> ioria, it's a Dell Inspiron.
[19:22] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  i suggest unplug, replug and dmesg | tail -40
[19:24] <AmbroseWaketon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F733c3Vpfb/
[19:24] <AmbroseWaketon> ioria, here's the weird thing. The mouse that comes with the keyboard? It works just fine. It's just certain keys on the keyboard that don't appear to send input.
[19:25] <ioria> i see
[19:27] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  maybe a bug
[19:28] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1771431
[19:31] <deepfreez> Hi, it is an free /open source alternative like Kitty?
[19:32] <deepfreez> http://www.9bis.net/kitty/
[19:34] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: can you mention your issue once again
[19:35] <OerHeks> KiTTY is only designed for the Microsoft® Windows® platform
[19:35] <OerHeks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030457/is-it-possible-to-run-the-kitty-gui-on-ubuntu-or-debian
[19:36] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: I have an HP keyboard/mouse combo that doesn't work correctly. The mouse works fine, but the keyboard only recognises function keys, escape, logokey, etc, not the standard typing keys
[19:36] <mra90> does anybody undertand PCI BAR space?
[19:36] <deepfreez> yes OerHeks
[19:37] <deepfreez> did you do it to work on ubuntu?
[19:37] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: you are using HP Wireless Keyboard Mouse Kit
[19:37] <nisankhindia> wait
[19:37] <OerHeks> deepfreez, no, and they give a reason for it
[19:37] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: yes
[19:37] <deepfreez> :D
[19:38] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: can you goto your settings and and adjust the keyboard layout for your wireless kit
[19:39] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: there are various options for setting your keyboard model
[19:39] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: how would I go about doing that?
[19:40] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: whats your desktop environement ?? is it gnome ???
[19:40] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: standard 18.04 unity
[19:40] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: there may be a HID quirk to deal with the issue
[19:41] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: the problem is apparently the device is sending an extra byte (0x7F) in the HID packet, so it is ignored
[19:41] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  18.04 uses gnome-shell not unity ... please confirm you're using unity
[19:41] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: sorry, extra byte is 0x71
[19:41] <ioria> AmbroseWaketon,  and ,btw,i'am afraid is a kernel module issue
[19:42] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: this is a low-level device bug, not much you can do in userspace about it. The usbhid module does allow you to tell it about certain quirks of a particular device; I'm checking if there is one to cover this issue
[19:43] <ioria> TJ-, can you check this possible solution ?  https://github.com/y-trudeau/linux_lenovo_ultraslim_plus
[19:43] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: it's gnome, my bad. thought Unity was default for ubuntu still
[19:44] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: wait consulting with HP support through chat
[19:47] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: Your keyboard and mouse works fine just in your keyboard keys other than Fn keys does not respond to your key stroke right ??
[19:48] <AmbroseWaketon> nisankhindia: yes
[19:48] <TJ-> ioria: already did, it's not really the best way to tackle it
[19:48] <ioria> TJ-, ok
[19:49] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: we can enable some debug logging in the HID module, which may cause the usbhid module to report bad apckets in the kernel log, which would be an advance on where you are right now - knowing what the problem is
[19:54] <AmbroseWaketon> TJ-: Honestly, this keyboard was free, and I think I see why now. Probably would be easier to just buy a new keyboard.
[19:55] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: wait for a solution is there .. HP enterpise IRC responded .. You need to test a script by them wait a while
[19:59] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: ioria the explanation is here, in the accepted answer https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/377830/linux-hid-driver-for-primax-wireless-keyboards#377873
[20:00] <adrian_1908> On my file manager, my root filesystem is just shown as "File System". It uses a GPT partition table. Is there a way to give the drive itself a label? I gave my root partition (ext4) an "ubuntu-bionic" label, but that isn't being shown. I'm on Xubuntu, but maybe this is general enough to ask here.
[20:03] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: install git in your system , than git clone https://github.com/NortheastUbuntuTeam/hpwirelesstest.git
[20:03] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: good news! The kernel contains a workaround for it
[20:04] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: than cd into the folder , use gcc -o kbdusb kbdusb.c
[20:05] <TJ-> AmbroseWaketon: There is a kernel module, hid-primax, for this keyboard
[20:06] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: copy the other file as respectively copy kbdusb and hp_keyboard.sh to /usr/local/bin ,
[20:06] <TJ-> nisankhindia: there is no need for that; there is a solution in the kernel already
[20:06] <nisankhindia> TJ-: ok waiting for if it can resolve ..
[20:08] <nisankhindia> AmbroseWaketon: TJ-: same codes .. good luck . if required ping me
[20:09] <nisankhindia> module author Terry Lambert<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:10] <TJ-> Looks like AmbroseWaketon has thrown it out the window :)
[20:32] <nisankhindia> what is this message " ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: failed to receive scan abortion completion: timed out " literaly it was flooded in my log
[20:33] <nisankhindia> wifi , lan , all working good than why the hell this message is flooded in my logs
[20:34] <TJ-> the device is waiting for a completion packet, which doesn't arrive in time
[20:35] <TJ-> the driver is commanding the firmware to stop scanning, but the firmware doesn't reply in time
[20:37] <nisankhindia> TJ-: then it should need to reported to ath10k developer and maintainer ..
[20:38] <kinghat> is it possible to get the full output of a terminal output if it went past the 1k default lines?
[20:39] <TJ-> could be caused by a firmware bug, based on the module source
[20:39] <kinghat> w/o having to run the process again.
[20:39] <TJ-> kinghat: not if the scrollback buffer has been exceeded, no
[20:42] <kinghat> if i compiled something is there a log of the output somewhere by default?
[20:42] <nisankhindia> lets see testing with firmware 6 ..
[20:43] <gbear14275> anyone here used snaps to install plex?
[20:43] <gbear14275> This is my first time using snaps... looking for some confirmation on procedure/process/permissions etc.
[20:43] <OerHeks> gbear14275, there has been an article about that commercial plex snap recently
[20:44] <gbear14275> OerHeks, orly?  I'll try googling, unless you have a link handy?
[20:44] <nisankhindia> gbear14275: it's upto your choice , you can add plex repo for deb package or you can use snap ..
[20:44] <OerHeks> https://snapcraft.io/blog/plex-arrives-in-canonicals-snap-store
[20:44] <TJ-> kinghat: generally not; I usually build software and write to a log, as in "make |& tee /tmp/make.log"
[20:44] <OerHeks> i refuse to support it, as we don't get the money, you know
[20:44] <TJ-> kinghat: in that way I can watch it AND capture a lot of both stdout and stderr in case I need it later
[20:45] <OerHeks> !info kodi
[20:46] <gbear14275> OerHeks, totally understandable.  I got past the snap install plexmediaserver, but after that I couldn't hit the default web port or anything and am trying to figure out where the config files are
[20:46] <kinghat> thanks TJ-
[20:46] <gbear14275> P.S. Do snaps use LXD?
[20:47] <TJ-> gbear14275: no, they use apparmor, seccomp, and cgroups
[20:49] <nisankhindia> gbear14275: if you are worried than use debian pacakge for plex https://www.plex.tv/media-server-downloads/#plex-media-server , or configure the repository https://support.plex.tv/articles/235974187-enable-repository-updating-for-supported-linux-server-distributions/  . KODI is better if you want the same experince in ubuntu
[20:49] <OerHeks> standard would be http://<IP_ADDRESS>:32400/web
[20:51] <OerHeks> other older manuals give http://localhost:32401 >> http://tipsonubuntu.com/2017/07/22/install-plex-media-server-easily-via-snap-ubuntu-16-04-higher/
[20:51] <OerHeks> confusing, that binairy blob
[20:57] <gbear14275> nisankhindia, not worried... just trying the "new and improved"... I've been running plex for a few years.  Just got a new mobo/socket/cpu upgrade so reinstalling everything
[20:57] <nisankhindia> Yes that was the firmware bug , i have installed both firmware firmware-5 and firmware-6 , firmware-5 causes this issue ath10k_pci 0000:03:00.0: failed to receive scan abortion completion: timed out
[20:58] <nisankhindia> firmware-5 comes with linux-firmware package
[20:59] <OerHeks> kinghat, i think not, you can force a log like this:  make > output.txt 2>&1
[21:00] <kinghat> `./build.sh` is the compile command i run.
[21:00] <nisankhindia> gbear14275: better to use snap like this way . if there is not a sngle source available for deb ackage than use snap packages .. thank you
[21:03] <nisankhindia> kinghat: record terminal output or command / application output as follows : YOUR_COMMAND > filename.log , to get append into file next time you execute the same YOUR_COMMAND >> filename.log
[21:05] <kinghat> nisankhindia: `./build.sh > terminal_output.log`?
[21:06] <nisankhindia> kinghat: example run dmesg > dmesg.log and again run echo " Hi just adding this at end " >> dmesg.log , and now check the log by executing command cat dmesg.log .. you will see the difference and how > and >> can be used to record terminal output in a file
[21:06] <nisankhindia> kinghat: yes just add the part > terminal_output.log
[21:06] <kinghat> where is that log file located?
[21:07] <nisankhindia> kinghat: it will be saved in your current working directory
[21:07] <gbear14275> ok, apologies, but for looks like I wasn't specifying http (vs https default)
[21:07] <kinghat> tyvm
[21:08] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: the command "pwd" will return the absolute path to this directory.
[21:08] <tomreyn> kinghat: ^
[21:08] <core7> is there a way to replace a 16.04 install wit 18.04 and then recopy /etc/fstab, /etc/passwd etc from a previous install? Is there a script to help with this?
[21:08] <kinghat> thanks tomreyn
[21:09] <tomreyn> kinghat: you should redirect both standard outputs, though. use: command &> logfile.log
[21:09] <TJ-> kinghat: be aware that just using ">" you won't capture stderr
[21:10] <kinghat> it wont just log all of the terminal output line for line?
[21:10] <tomreyn> core7: there is an upgrade path from 16.04 to 18.04. and once there, you could copy back those files you need to copy back. but overwriting critical configuration files such as these may not be safe.
[21:11] <core7> tomreyn: you mean do-release-upgrade() - i wanted to do a fresh install , hence the question
[21:12] <tomreyn> backup, install, restore files from backup as needed.
[21:14] <tomreyn> core7: maybe what you are looking for is OS (configuration) deployment such as what puppet, ansible, salt, and a couple other softwares can do.
[21:19] <RoscoePColtrane> core7: the term "fresh" when used in the context of "fresh install" implies the system administrator will be restoring any personal data from a previously taken backup, AND reconfiguring any custom personal configurations used in his/her environment...outside of things like puppet,ansible,salt...you don't get to have cake and eat it too
[21:20] <kinghat> tomreyn: when i do that the terminal no longer shows the output as well. but is updating in the log.
[21:20] <kinghat> is it possible to show the output in the terminal and log it to file?
[21:25] <nisankhindia> kinghat: i assume that you are not a programmer so use the script command
[21:26] <kinghat> script command?
[21:26] <nisankhindia> kinghat: open your terminal and run command : script output.log after this whatever you will do all will be recorded in the output.log file as well as terminal also show the output
[21:27] <nisankhindia> kinghat: to stop script command just type exit otherwise it will keep recodring all your termial activity
[21:27] <kinghat> that does the same thing as `&> logfile.log` but shows the terminal output as well?
[21:28] <tomreyn> kinghat: you can pipe into the 'tee' command for this purpose
[21:29] <tomreyn> kinghat: somecommand 2>&1 | tee mylog.log
[21:29] <tomreyn> or, to append:
[21:29] <tomreyn> kinghat: somecommand 2>&1 | tee -a mylog.log
[21:29] <nisankhindia> to get log of terminal activity and to display them on terminal at same time just pass the command script output.log and do your terminal activity , when done just type exit
[21:30] <kinghat> tomreyn: what is the 2 and 1 doing there?
[21:31] <tomreyn> kinghat: those are the standard output 'channels', indicating how i/o redirection is done: https://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/io-redirection.html
[21:32] <tomreyn> 1 is stdout, 2 is stderr
[21:48] <draik> Hello. I'm not having much luck with a Google search, and I think it's because I'm maybe looking for the wrong thing. I want to create a user with SSH access, but no shell. However, I want a script to run when they login, and have it locked down to only that script. I was looking for "/sbin/nologin script at login" but not having much luck. Am I looking for the right thing? If not, can someone please point me
[21:48] <draik> in the right direction. Thank you.
[21:52] <nisankhindia> draik: this is ubuntu support channel , your situation is related to programing . so better discuss it with any other shell script support IRC or dev doc forum
[21:53] <RoscoePColtrane> draik: yeah a different chat room for sure
[21:53] <draik> nisankhindia and RoscoePColtrane -- sorry, this is for my Ubuntu server, and thought this was the place to ask. Thanks for the heads up.
[21:53] <TJ-> draik: you need to add a 'command= ...' string to the authorized_keys file
[21:54] <TJ-> draik: see "man 5 authorized_keys"
[21:54] <draik> TJ-: awesome. Thank you. Doing that now.
[21:55] <nisankhindia> this is to inform . other than ubuntu support , if anything else goe for a long time than it will be notified to Ubuntu IRC team
[21:56] <TJ-> draik: I use that for providing an SSH remote-support proxy that anonymous users can connect to but do nothing, and it starts with "command="sleep 604800" ssh-rsa ..."
[21:58] <draik> TJ-: and the user can't "ssh user@host 'random command'" ?
[21:58] <TJ-> draik: precisely
[21:58] <draik> Perfect. That's what I've been trying to find.
[21:58] <draik> For future reference, what should I have been searching? Is there a name for this type of user setup?
[21:59] <TJ-> draik: as the man-page says "The command supplied by the user (if any) is ignored."
[22:00] <TJ-> draik: I'm not entirely sure. I generally learn about such things by spending hours reading man pages when the fancy takes me :)
[22:01] <draik> TJ-: I would not have thought about authorized_keys at all. I was going to start looking at .profile and such.
[22:01] <draik> TJ-: you've been a great help. Thank you very much.
[22:01] <TJ-> it's amazing what you discover is possible reading man pages :)
[22:08] <NerdTheThird> how stable is 18.10 as of now?
[22:12] <nisankhindia> NerdTheThird: wait till 18th October 2018
[22:12] <Bashing-om> NerdTheThird: No issues here with 18.10 . All are encouraged to install the beta and report results . - *TESTING*
[22:12] <NerdTheThird> why tho? beta will just _flow_ into "normal" release
[22:13] <NerdTheThird> are you real or a bot? i legit can't tell Bashing-om
[22:15] <nisankhindia> "beta" release is a version that has been tested internally and is being tested by the wider community. It usually has fixes for bugs in the stable version, and has new features that are subject to change and need testing and may have their own bugs or limitations .
[22:15] <nisankhindia> A stable release is a version that has been tested as thoroughly as possible and is as reliable as we can make it. It does not have all the new features of a beta release and it does not have the latest fixes for problems.
[22:15] <Bashing-om> NerdTheThird: So long as the result is acceptable, does not matter If I am a bot :P
[22:15] <NerdTheThird> yeah, but there's only 3 days until 18.10
[22:15] <NerdTheThird> i mean, there can't be that many bugs
[22:16] <NerdTheThird> oh you're real, damn dude... i'm sorry about the bot thing xD Bashing-om
[22:16] <TJ-> NerdTheThird: we're in final freeze right now, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseSchedule
[22:17] <TJ-> NerdTheThird: oh and also "can't be that many bugs" ... you're new here aren't you? :D
[22:17] <NerdTheThird> in Linux world?
[22:17] <NerdTheThird> or just this chan
[22:18] <TJ-> NerdTheThird: to Ubuntu releases, and bug status :)
[22:18] <nisankhindia> language pack deadlines are on Tuesdays, and the corresponding language packs are released on the following Thursday . so later on that it will be released as scheduled
[22:18] <NerdTheThird> yeah inda, you could say so :D TJ-
[22:18] <NerdTheThird> kinda*
[22:18] <NerdTheThird> k then, you guys seem to know than i do, so i will wait
[22:18] <NerdTheThird> more than i do*
[22:19] <nisankhindia> https://dev.launchpad.net/Translations/LanguagePackSchedule
[22:19] <TJ-> NerdTheThird: there will be very few changes between now and release; the ISO image are being generated from the frozen archives.  If you want to get started, please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad" .
[22:24] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Has graduated to a very large sledge hammer to wield in bug squashing - he earned it !
[22:24] <NerdTheThird> i'm not that knowledgeable about bugs and things i just translate stuff
[22:25] <Bashing-om> !contribute
[22:27] <TJ-> Bashing-om: next stop, a road roller :)
[22:28] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Sic em !
[22:29] <TJ-> Bashing-om: did you see the issue 2 weeks ago, where the user was suffering really low Wifi signal even next to the AP? Here's the cause: https://imgur.com/a/Ox5ewbx
[22:30] <TJ-> Bashing-om: laptop lid hinge had sliced both antenna cables through
[22:32] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Nope - did not see how that one ended .. just goes to show .. not always the software at fault .//  Ya got this morning's WIFI bug isolated ?
[22:33] <TJ-> Bashing-om: yes: Bug #1797772
[22:40] <nisankhindia> TJ-: i dont know why it was assigned to me . lolz https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797772
[22:41] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Good job ! road roller in action :P
[22:41] <TJ-> nisankhindia: you clicked where you shouldn't!
[22:41] <nisankhindia> TJ-: nope , i never do bug related work for Ubuntu . i do this usualy for fedora
[22:42] <TJ-> the log shows it happened about 2 minutes ago, which would be when you viewed the report :)
[22:42] <nisankhindia> There is no futher activity ...
[22:44] <TJ-> nisankhindia: I removed you, but you can see it in the full activity log, at 22:39:41
[23:33] <JFox762> hi
[23:33] <JFox762> I'm havin trouble with Hibernate. It isn't working. I set it up a couple weeks ago, and it worked for a few days... but suddenly, it stopped working
[23:45] <ph88> where can i see the scripts with which packages are build on launchpad ?
[23:45] <ph88> not launchpad itself, but package build scripts


[01:09] <Burgwork> http://lxer.com/module/newswire/ext_link.php?rid=65791
[01:13] <LaserJock> Burgwork: interesting
[01:14] <Burgwork> shows the importance of a unified doc effort
[01:15] <LaserJock> Burgwork: can you help with a quick wiki cleanup?
[01:15] <LaserJock> or are you busy?
[01:15] <Burgwork> which page?
[01:15] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[01:16] <LaserJock> poor zul is just not a doc guy
[01:16] <Burgwork> oh joy
[01:16] <Burgwork> there is a bunch
[01:16] <Burgwork> I will do a bunch of moving tonight
[01:16] <LaserJock> well, he is the Xen packager, so I think the contents should be ok
[01:16] <LaserJock> it's jut not very pretty
[01:16] <crimsun> you probably want to check with him first [if those are his]  before you rearrange stuff
[01:17] <LaserJock> I did ;-)
[01:17] <LaserJock> he asked for help
[01:17] <crimsun> excellent.
[01:17] <LaserJock> at least for that one page
[01:23] <LaserJock> Burgwork: hmm, they manage to pack a lot of docs on that MySQL page
[01:34] <Burgwork> utter whack --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnifiedUbuntuBranding
[01:38] <LaserJock> hmm, certainly verbose
[01:41] <Burgwork> it is also never going to happen
[01:43] <nixternal> jeesh
[01:44] <nixternal> so, im looking through screenshots right to link to on http://chi.ubuntu-us.org
[01:44] <nixternal> and ubuntu and edubuntu has 2 sweet pages for screenshots
[01:44] <nixternal> then there is kubuntu..they dont' even have their own screenshots, they link to other sites who slap their freakin' logos on the images, and 2 of the sites where the screenshots exist use flash to show them
[01:45] <nixternal> that isn't good in my eyes..however, xubuntu isn't as bad, but i can't find any :)
[01:45] <Burgwork> ah, yes
[01:45] <Burgwork> the kde community is noticably bad about marketing
[01:46] <nixternal> ;(
[01:46] <Burgwork> it is systemic in their community
[01:46] <Burgwork> see planet.kde vs planet gnome and number of screenshots
[01:46] <nixternal> i love KDE, as i have used it forever, but what i have been seeing is getting worse and worse i think
[01:46] <Madpilot> nixternal, switch to Gnome, you know you want to! ;)
[01:46] <nixternal> gah
[01:46] <nixternal> i would rather swallow razor blades ;)
[01:47] <Burgwork> same feeling going the other way from me
[01:47] <LaserJock> Burgwork: what do planets have to do with marketing?
[01:47] <Burgwork> LaserJock, they are marketing to early adopters and developers
[01:47] <LaserJock> k
[01:48] <LaserJock> I just thought they were ranting's of developers, and not very interesting to the general population
[01:48] <Burgwork> you must look at everything you produce as marketing
[01:48] <Burgwork> even if only to think of adding a screenshot
[01:49] <crimsun> nixternal: we don't necessary care about screenshots ;-)
[01:49] <crimsun> necessarily ^
[01:49] <LaserJock> crimsun: everybody knows it rocks, right?
[01:49] <nixternal> ya, but for advocational purposes they are nice to show
[01:49] <crimsun> LaserJock: nope, and for those who don't, their loss ;-)
[01:49] <Burgwork> kde people are all telepathic and beam new images of the new hotness into each others heads
[01:49] <crimsun> [j/k of course]
[01:50] <Burgwork> it is why they are all drolling anti-social geeks ;)
[01:50] <crimsun> nixternal: certainly. You should shoot Gauvain and Jani an e-mail.
[01:50] <crimsun> nixternal: or...raise it on the xubuntu-devel list.
[01:50] <nixternal> ya, i just might do so, or i just might create them myself ;)
[01:50] <Burgwork> something like /desktop can be stolen very easily
[01:50] <Burgwork> nixternal, I can get you the raw source to that if you want, in moin format
[01:51] <Burgwork> or you can get it yourself via ?action=raw
[01:51] <nixternal> Burgwork: i agree, and i think that all 4 sites should be based the same, with their own flare...ubuntu.com and edubuntu.com look great...xubuntu.com looks good as well, just don't follow the flow..and kubuntu.org follows the flow, but looks like a really bad blog
[01:52] <nixternal> i can read the text on kubuntu.org from 30 feet away ;)
[01:52] <Burgwork> edubuntu is the best developed
[01:52] <Burgwork> in terms of marketing, that is
[01:52] <crimsun> Burgwork: well arguably it has the most difficult job
[01:52] <crimsun> (and should have the best)
[01:53] <crimsun> not that getting them all to some parity isn't a worthy objective
[01:53] <Burgwork> I would argue it has the easiest time marketing and hardest time selling
[01:53] <Burgwork> it already has a defined niche to sell to, it is just hard to close deals in that niche
[01:54] <crimsun> Burgwork: right, s/job/time\ selling/
[01:55] <LaserJock> I was a little confused by the kubuntu and xubuntu sites
[02:05] <Burgwork> ubuntu isn't much better about telling you what ubuntu is
[02:05] <Burgwork> anyway,  I need to go home
[02:05] <LaserJock> cya
[03:35] <robotgeek> howz we doing?
[03:55] <nixternal> http://chi.ubuntu-us.org
[03:56] <nixternal> its getting there
[03:56] <LaserJock> almost makes me wish I lived in Chicago.... almost
[03:56] <nixternal> hehe
[03:56] <nixternal> i have been hacking php and css all day long
[03:56] <nixternal> and graphics
[03:57] <nixternal> i need new ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu logos, as they look blurry
[03:57] <crimsun> being worked on
[03:58] <nixternal> ?
[03:58] <nixternal> ahh...it is constructed, now edited ;)
[04:01] <jsgotangco> nice nice
[04:01] <nixternal> it looks pretty close to ubuntu.com
[04:01] <jsgotangco> hmm it does
[04:02] <nixternal> hehe
[04:02] <nixternal> explain it to me?
[04:02] <jsgotangco> im still thinking
[04:02] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:03] <nixternal> sounds pretty cool
[04:03] <jsgotangco> something to spur contribution
[04:04] <jsgotangco> then get points
[04:04] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:04] <nixternal> that would be fun
[04:04] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:04] <nixternal> who would win?
[04:04] <jsgotangco> worth fleshing out?
[04:04] <nixternal> who is your money on?
[04:04] <jsgotangco> the brazilians
[04:04] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:04] <nixternal> hehe
[04:04] <nixternal> ya, them and the aussies are pretty powerful
[04:04] <jsgotangco> i think its a nice one
[04:04] <LaserJock> bug karma?
[04:05] <nixternal> that isn't fair if you do bug karma, i don't have elite members yet ;)
[04:05] <nixternal> it would be me vs. everyone
[04:05] <LaserJock> so
[04:05] <nixternal> i guarantee my guys who are on the launchpad would see karma as a bad thing
[04:05] <jsgotangco> i think there should be an agreed number of members per team to qualify
[04:05] <jsgotangco> 10 at least
[04:05] <nixternal> chicago is out
[04:05] <nixternal> lol
[04:05] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:06] <jsgotangco> 5?
[04:06] <nixternal> still out
[04:06] <nixternal> 1
[04:06] <nixternal> ?
[04:06] <jsgotangco> doh
[04:06] <nixternal> haha
[04:06] <LaserJock> what about the LoCo teams of one like me
[04:06] <jsgotangco> uploaders are not allowed to enter
[04:06] <nixternal> my team will advocate like you wouldn't believe
[04:06] <LaserJock> if we put US together maybe
[04:06] <jsgotangco> but only serve as team coach
[04:06] <nixternal> but they aren't triagers or packagers just yet
[04:06] <nixternal> us has a couple of strong teams
[04:06] <jsgotangco> but dude this would be fun
[04:06] <nixternal> colorado has a nice showing
[04:06] <nixternal> it would be a blast
[04:07] <jsgotangco> like fantasy football except its not fantasy
[04:07] <LaserJock> dholbach would freak
[04:07] <nixternal> i think there should be "Ubuntu LoCo Scavenger Hunts"
[04:07] <nixternal> and your team makes video of the entire venture
[04:07] <jsgotangco> we'll have divisions
[04:07] <jsgotangco> hehe
[04:07] <jsgotangco> the EU league
[04:07] <nixternal> hehe
[04:08] <jsgotangco> the NorthAm league
[04:08] <nixternal> oooh...we got Canada!!!
[04:08] <nixternal> Burgwork and Madpilot are on that team ;)
[04:08] <Madpilot> huh?
[04:08] <nixternal> i need to get in with the Mexico LoCo since I will be moving htere someday
[04:09] <jsgotangco> heh i will talk to dholbach later
[04:09] <Madpilot> nixternal, there are good quality logos for all the versions available on wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <jsgotangco> im not sure who handles locoteams at the moment
[04:11] <nixternal> that is where i got all of those
[04:11] <nixternal> i did something with them
[04:11] <nixternal> easy fix though
[04:11] <nixternal> i have a master logo xcf that has every logo w/ name layered
[04:11] <Madpilot> nixternal, really? There are good SVG versions, much easier to resize vector art in Inkscape than mess with bitmaps in the GIMP
[04:12] <nixternal> ya, i should probably do that
[07:31] <RichJ> http://chi.ubuntu-us.org is getting better and better..almost like a fine wine and age ;)
[07:49] <Madpilot> odd - I can't get through to either wiki.ubuntu.com or help.ubuntu.com, but they ping fine from terminal...
[07:50] <RichJ> me either
[07:50] <RichJ> hopefully they are doing some updates and thats it
[07:51] <crimsun> apparently they've both been diggdotted.
[07:51] <crimsun> or whatever.
[07:51] <RichJ> lol
[07:51] <crimsun> 01:13 < dieman> nice. digg effect on wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:51] <RichJ> i have never heard that one b4
[07:51] <RichJ> wtf happened that caused a digg effect?
[07:51] <crimsun> no idea.
[07:52] <Madpilot> with Digg, who knows?
[07:52] <crimsun> ah, I see
[07:52] <Madpilot> it's like Slashdot, only dafter, and without the +5 Funny for minor amusement...
[07:52] <crimsun> it's on the front page of digg.com
[07:52] <crimsun> "Ubuntu "Edgy" artwork progress: Great eye candy on the way!"
[07:52] <crimsun> and links directly to wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:53] <Madpilot> bah
[07:53] <RichJ> edgy artwork
[07:53] <RichJ> yup
[07:53] <robitaille> with all the snapshots of all the different artwork...
[07:53] <crimsun> man, I'm TOTALLY going to have ponies in all the default artworks
[07:53] <RichJ> hahaha
[07:53] <RichJ> i will help it get dugg if you do
[07:54] <jsgotangco> geeez
[07:54] <jsgotangco> they're not even planned artwork
[07:54] <jsgotangco> just people adding their stuff
[07:55] <crimsun> yeah, so my ponies are totally going up
[08:48] <robitaille> hi mdke
[08:51] <Burgundavia> hey mdke, robitaille
[08:51] <robitaille> Hi Burgundavia
[08:54] <mdke> robitaille: how does one actually create an article on the fridge, out of interest?
[08:55] <robitaille> you login, then click on "contribute" on the left-hand side
[08:55] <mdke> I don't have a "contribute"
[08:56] <mdke> maybe that's intentional
[08:56] <robitaille> you have entered your password?
[08:56] <mdke> yes
[08:57] <robitaille> you want to try now
[08:57] <robitaille> I added you as "editor"
[08:57] <mdke> yes, that works
[08:59] <robitaille> then you click on "story" to write your article
[08:59] <mdke> right, and "event" for adding a meeting?
[08:59] <robitaille> yes
[08:59] <mdke> very nice
[09:00] <mdke> perhaps not adding me as editor was intentional though?
[09:00] <robitaille> by the way, there was some discussion with the buntudot crowd earlier tonight, and it seems they will be a lot of near-future collaborations
[09:00] <mdke> great
[09:00] <mdke> is there a formal team?
[09:01] <robitaille> I'm not sure what jorge had in mind, but not being able to edit makes your access to the site pretty much useless
[09:01] <robitaille> fridge team?
[09:01] <mdke> something like that
[09:01] <robitaille> I guess whoever is on the mailing list is the team
[09:02] <mdke> it would probably be a good idea if lots of people are going to start helping out. And some guidelines for how to join, etc
[09:02] <robitaille> totally agree.  I suspect we'll start sorting all this shortly.  All this is very sudden
[09:03] <robitaille> you're getting the mailing list emails?
[09:04] <mdke> actually no, I put it as vacation
[09:04] <mdke> but I can read the archive
[09:04] <mdke> my email isn't set up well right now for mailing lists, I am using a newsreader for all the lists
[09:04] <robitaille> you should read the email from imbrandon from a couple of hours ago
[09:04] <mdke> ok
[09:05] <robitaille> it is the log of an informal irc meeting they did earlier today
[09:05] <mdke> great, I see it
[09:06] <mdke> lot of spam on that list :/
[09:06] <robitaille> oh yes.  Because anyone can post to it so that we can received people suggestions for articles
[09:06] <mdke> right
[09:07] <robitaille> spamasssin actually filter some of them out
[09:41] <Burgundavia> hey jsgotangco
[09:41] <jsgotangco> hey
[09:41] <jsgotangco> how's it going?
[09:42] <Burgundavia> not bad
[09:49] <Madpilot> careful, the IOC is rabidly protective of their logos ;)
[09:49] <jsgotangco> hmm
[09:49] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: you seen that branding wiki page?
[09:50] <jsgotangco> no but im thinking of something really crazy to stir up the locoteams
[09:50] <Fujitsu> :O
[09:50] <jsgotangco> well not crazy but rather bold
[09:52] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco: witness the utter insanity of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UnifiedUbuntuBranding
[09:54] <jsgotangco> OS/g OS/k?
[09:55] <Burgundavia> I suspect jbaer is a disgruntled kubuntu/xubuntu user
[09:55] <jsgotangco> crazy
[09:55] <Burgundavia> he has written lots of nice market speak on that page
[10:30] <mpt> heh, eh, wot
[10:30] <Burgundavia> night all
[10:30] <mdke> that html trick of yours with the image doesn't work on planet ubuntu
[10:30] <mpt> The easy method?
[10:30] <mdke> right
[10:30] <mpt> so Planet must strip all style= attributes
[10:31] <mpt> in which case the only solution is to put the  in a
 by itself
[10:31] <mdke> is there a brute force method?
[10:31] <mpt> which is semantically incorrect, but will work
[10:31] <mpt> or you could put it in a
 by itself, which would be slightly more honest
[10:32] <mdke> thanks
[10:35] <RichJ> hiya guys
[11:34] <mdke> mpt: you mean "
" right? that hasn't worked either
[11:45] <mpt> mdke, did Planet pick up a new copy of the article?
[11:46] <mdke> mpt: yes. says this:

[11:52] <mpt> mdke, dude, that's because you've got the align="right" in there
[11:53] <mpt> align="right" is equivalent to style="float: right;", and the float clearing has been stripped out of the next paragraph, so it goes into the runaround
[11:53] <mdke> argh, wtf is that doing in there
[11:53] <mdke> sorry mpt
[11:54] <mdke> she is real!
[11:56] <mpt> gah
[11:56] <mpt> The one in the KDE photo
[11:56] <mdke> she is real!
[11:56] <mdke> well, no
[11:56] <jsgotangco> ?
[11:57] <jsgotangco> wow is she hot or what
[11:57] <bimberi> jsgotangco: http://planet.ubuntu.com/ (post #3)
[11:58] <jsgotangco> (for an action figure that is)
[12:38] <mpt> That one looks suspiciously rubbery
[12:42] <mdke> mpt: you say that like it's a bad thing
[12:47] <mpt> I plead ignorance
[03:34] <jsgotangco> has anyone played super mario bros. before?
[03:35] <jjesse> yeah
[03:35] <jsgotangco> i bought this game for the DS and they just re-made the game and its AWESOME
[03:35] <jsgotangco> mario grows like 10 times and trashes everything on screen har har har
[03:35] <jjesse> cool
[03:36] <jsgotangco> im not going to think of anything ubuntu for now and just be a kid again
[03:41] <ompaul> s/let/set
[03:41] <jjesse> share w/ all
[03:43] <ompaul> when vpn issues and the likes are being spoken about the keys and the x509 cert details should be written up large before the actual configuration of the vpn - it might seem obvious but they tend to be buried well away from actual configurations
[03:43] <ompaul> if that is not enough data then I will stick something on the mailing list later
[03:43] <ompaul> just say so
[03:46] <ompaul> this is because the certs / keys  info is needed to do the config - so rather than branching or doing it later it should be done first with a little explaination and a branch to help choose cert / key that is all - two ugly routers and an ip sec lan
[06:12] <nixternal> anyone else here on the Fridge mailing list?  how come all the spam?
[06:12] <mdke> nixternal: all mailing lists get spam, it's just that the fridge mailing list doesn't have moderation so that people can post ideas without being subscribed
[06:13] <nixternal> arg, that is horrible
[06:15] <mdke> tha's life
[06:16] <nixternal> it always is ;)
[06:16] <nixternal> im listening to this "switchers" podcast..pretty entertaining
[06:17] <nixternal> he pronounce SuSe sooose, and now Soo-Sah
[06:22] <mdke> suzy
[06:37] <nixternal> i always called it suzy as well, but I heard the CEO at the time (2000) at Comdex during a keynote, say Soo-Sah, and it was in his presentation...maybe it is the way the Germans say it
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> if they do, i'm supprised
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> i say soos (in my pronunciation... hope your is similar ;))
[06:41] <nixternal> i had an old SuSe Linux box and seen the /Soo-Sah/ pronunciation on it, then again I am talking back in the 90's
[06:42] <nixternal> The company has been known to pronounce it as "zu-zuh".
[06:42] <nixternal> that is it, not soo-sah...i was close ;)
[06:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[06:45] <nixternal> it is us english speakers to changed it to sound like "suzie" a girls name, "soose" which means sweet in german...we are crazy like that
[06:45] <nixternal> the same goes for Ubuntu though
[06:45] <nixternal> i have heard it pronounced "Uh-Bunt-ooo", "ooo-boon-too" and such
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> or You-Bun-too
[06:48] <Kamping_Kaiser>  "ooo-boon-too" is actiualy correct
[06:49] <nixternal> oh ya, forgot about that one as well
[07:34] <Burgwork> there are too many matthews involved in the ubuntu documentation
[07:34] <nixternal> lol
[07:34] <Burgwork> mdke, mpt one of you has to change your name
[07:35] <nixternal> they are taking over the ubuntu world
[07:35] <jjesse> i thought it was a rule that you had to change your name to matthew to work in documentation
[07:35] <Burgwork> I hope not
[07:36] <Burgwork> jjesse, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=jonathan+jesse&spell=1 <-- prentice has some serious google juice
[07:38] <Burgwork> wow, being an author really changed how google looks at me
[07:40] <Burgwork> http://www.usu.edu/research/programs/staffdetail.cfm?ID=6 <-- although I feel sorry for this bastard (which is not me)
[07:42] <jjesse> yeah i noticed that the other day
[07:42] <jjesse> launchpad is the third link
[07:42] <jjesse> so that's nice
[08:56] <neoxan> hi Seveas
[08:57] <neoxan> Seveas, /join #gaygeeks :)
[09:03] <nixternal> wth
[09:03] <nixternal> that took me a second to comprehend
[09:03] <Burgwork> somebody is stalking poor Seveas
[09:04] <jjesse> on #ubuntu-devel as well
[09:24] <neoxan> hi Seveas
[09:31] <mdke> Burgwork: heh, I use epiphany too, and the bug still annoys me, just knowing it is there, and that firefox is the default browser
[09:31] <neoxan> epiphany is cool
[09:32] <neoxan> i think it runs smoother then firefox
[09:32] <neoxan> :)
[09:34] <Burgwork> neoxan, I suggest you stop following Seveas around.