[19:43] <twig11> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949565/
[19:43] <EriC^^> fatalmojo: wc -m /path/to/files/*
[19:43] <ioria> twig11,   ok, installed
[19:43] <OerHeks> gde33, yes.
[19:44] <gde33> heh okay -.-
[19:44] <OerHeks> gde33, else use the offline-method
[19:44] <OerHeks> !offline
[19:44] <fatalmojo> EriC^^, Thanks!
[19:44] <EriC^^> fatalmojo: no problem!
[19:45] <cgtobi> @ducasse yes, that’s what ifconfig gives me. http://pastebin.com/dmVQm0GH
[19:45] <twig11> ioria: one current symptom, as of a few minutes ago, is that I can't open the gnome terminal app. I'm actually entering all these commands using a dropdown terminal that's a gnome shell extension.
[19:45] <ioria> twig11,   if smartmontools has been installed, apt works
[19:46] <gde33> OerHeks: it is on a liveusb, if the wireless doesn't work there I assume it wont work on a full install either?
[19:46] <twig11> ioria: Yes, I can see that.
[19:46] <ioria> twig11,   check the disk
[19:46] <gde33> OerHeks: dumb question I know :P but still... lol...
[19:46] <OerHeks> gde33, correct. you need cabled networking for it to happen
[19:47] <gde33> roger that!
[19:47] <gde33> thanks !
[19:47] <twig11> ioria, what's the best tool to do that. The Disks app shows the disk is okay.
[19:47] <ducasse> twig11: have you been doing that the entire time?
[19:47] <blueking> I have samba share  on mine ubuntu server.. but workgroup/ubuntu server aren't visible on my lan, tho I could connect to mine samba share as it was configured before... changes I've made  added two more nic, made those two nic into one  interface name bond0  interface that samba share was on before are disabled..  I've changed smb.conf    I need to change somewhere else too ?
[19:47] <ioria> twig11,  ducasse told you the command
[19:48] <ducasse> cgtobi: odd, this is exactly the setup i use too on x86
[19:48] <ioria> twig11,  sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc
[19:48] <ash_workz> umm... https://gist.github.com/ash-m/6d97911b297361b7bdbf680bc5bbc352
[19:49] <cgtobi> ducasse: I never had problems with bridges before, but on the Rpi it’s a nightmare
[19:49] <maeki> hello there! how can I make a DVD functional again?
[19:49] <ioria> twig11,  about the python errors, maybe a conflicts with the snapd modules ... idk
[19:49] <ducasse> ioria: if all these commands have been entered through a gnome shell extension, the errors could come from that. that would make sense.
[19:49] <maeki> I dont know what's wrong but I'd burned iso on it, but it is still shown as blank, yet I cant use it again
[19:49] <ducasse> cgtobi: never had the pleasure ;)
[19:50] <ash_workz> anyone know why virtualbox is complaining? https://gist.github.com/ash-m/6d97911b297361b7bdbf680bc5bbc352
[19:50] <ikonia> the pi puts it interface on the usb bus
[19:50] <ikonia> the model of card doesn't work well with bridges
[19:50] <ducasse> maeki: throw it away. you can't 'unburn' a disc.
[19:50] <ikonia> (it does work)
[19:50] <ikonia> the card doesn't support all the stuff needed for stable packet details sharing (like some of the old wifi chips)
[19:51] <maeki> ducasse, I was reading of that it can be made writable again
[19:51] <ash_workz> I guess I'll try removing and reinstalling
[19:51] <jnewt> is there an issue with the drivers for nvidia quadro cards? mine is m2000.  i've tried the nvidia 367.57, 370.28, 378.09.  all of them seem to have issues when i'm xrdp/vnc/x2go into the machine.  I can't seem to find much tying this to graphics.  I get errors when trying to start firefox (seg fault), chrome (glx, gpu process), nvidia-settings (seg fault), time-admin (seg fault) just to name a few.
[19:51] <Zewwy> Ubuntu points finger at Tomcat... Tomcat devs pointing finger at Ubuntu
[19:51] <Zewwy> classic
[19:52] <ducasse> maeki: not unless it's explicitly rewriteable
[19:53] <twig11> ducasse, ioria: you sure that command should be run on /dev/sdc?
[19:53] <ioria> twig11,  was the output of your dmesg ... i guess
[19:53] <ducasse> twig11: what block devices do you have? 'lsblk'
[19:54] <JC_SoCal> hello! is there a way to disable the power saving features? I have a ubuntu system with NO gui, however after about 10 minutes the screen turns off. I also need to make sure the disk never spins down as well, but all the guides are see are for the gui
[19:54] <maeki> ducasse, thank you, they're just dvd-r
[19:54] <ikonia> Zewwy: no
[19:54] <jnewt> i upgraded through the drivers hoping to fix the issue i was having with not being able to boot with more than one monitor (which is fixed now), but the remote problems I don't know what to do, there's no more drivers left to upgrade to.
[19:54] <maeki> ciao everyone!
[19:54] <ioria> twig11,  https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949503/
[19:54] <ducasse> maeki: ok, then they're what called WORM - 'write once, read many'
[19:54] <Zewwy> ikonia: yeap
[19:54] <jnewt> it renders my machine completely unusable remotely, which I def need.
[19:54] <ikonia> Zewwy: no, not at all
[19:55] <Zewwy> (13:34) ( k1l) Zewwy: enable activates the unit file so it starts automatically. but since you use 3rd party tomcat with 3rd party setups please ask them where they broke the etup
[19:55] <twig11> ioria: OK, I didn't notice that. the drive that's been giving me problems, my main one, is /dev/sda. If /dev/sdc is throwing the errors, that's an external storage drive and isn't related to our problems here.
[19:55] <ikonia> Zewwy: where did you get the tomcat package from ?
[19:55] <ioria> twig11,  ok
[19:56] <Zewwy> http://www-us.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-8/v8.5.4/bin/apache-tomcat-8.5.4.tar.gz
[19:56] <Zewwy> sorry
[19:56] <Zewwy> 8.5.11
[19:56] <ikonia> Zewwy: so thats a tar file
[19:56] <Zewwy> yes..
[19:56] <ikonia> Zewwy: where did the system unit for that executable come from ?
[19:56] <cgtobi> ducasse: thanks anyway
[19:56] <Zewwy> http://www.serveradventures.com/the-adventures/installing-pwm-open-source-password-self-service-in-2016
[19:56] <Zewwy> I'm following this guid
[19:56] <ikonia> Zewwy: ok - so that guide is nonsense
[19:56] <Zewwy> is there a better way I'm not aware of?
[19:56] <twig11> ioria, ducasse: here's the output from /dev/sda: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949636/
[19:56] <ikonia> Zewwy: so no-one is blaming tomcat, they are saying you are following a guide that has problems
[19:57] <Zewwy> I'm def OK with understanding that, so my question would be how to I do it "propper"
[19:57] <ikonia> Zewwy: why are you not using the tomcat version from the ubuntu repos ?
[19:57] <Zewwy> I'm just following this guide, I've never setup PWM
[19:57] <Zewwy> and my linux skill are pretty rusty
[19:57] <Zewwy> I only worked with liek openSUSE 11.4 back in teh day doing basic scripting
[19:57] <ikonia> Zewwy: that guide sucks
[19:58] <Zewwy> I'm a very weak linux admin sadly
[19:58] <ikonia> Zewwy: if you just install tomcat from the ubuntu repos (undo what you did manually) and drop the java app into it, it should work, and be more supportable
[19:58] <Zewwy> I wanted to be a linux admin, but Windows was so prevalent
[19:58] <ikonia> Zewwy: the guide you are following does not seem to be written be experienced people with an idea for supportability
[19:58] <Zewwy> k thank you
[19:58] <Zewwy> you've been a great help
[19:58] <ducasse> twig11: that looks good. but has *all* your commands now been entered through that gnome thingy?
[19:59] <ioria> twig11,  ok
[19:59] <ikonia> Zewwy: if you approach it like that, this channel can support you better
[20:00] <aiello> G'day, I've got a super bizzare problem I've been unable to solve... hoping someone might have a crazy idea that might just work. I have 16.04 LTS with two nvidia GPUs and 3 monitors (2 plugged into the first, 1 plugged into the second). the latter gives me a blank screen with an X cursor with both the X-org and nvidia drivers. I've tried everything from a reinstall to changing cable, video card, and monitor arrangements and believe
[20:00] <aiello> (2/2) It works perfectly fine off the live CD, but not once installed on a disk.
[20:01] <ikonia> aiello: I suspect your video card setup is using "twinview" with the nvidia module
[20:01] <twig11> ducasse: yes, it's a drop-down terminal app, like Guake, not the alt-f2 command field.
[20:01] <ikonia> aiello: twinview (I think) still cannot support multiple cards
[20:02] <ducasse> twig11: what happens when you try to start a regular term?
[20:02] <aiello> ikonia, oh... well, that kind of sucks - is there any known workaround or alternative solution to get it to play nice?
[20:03] <ikonia> aiello: you could try the opensource driver, or look at using the nvidia driver and setup multiple screen configs rather than twinview (I'm guessing your problem don't forget)
[20:03] <ash_workz> yeah, I don't know if this has something to do with my upgrade or if this is a vbox problem
[20:03] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/ash-m/6d97911b297361b7bdbf680bc5bbc352
[20:03] <ikonia> ash_workz: you're not using virtualbox from the ubuntu repo s?
[20:04] <ash_workz> ikonia: I would think I am?
[20:04] <ducasse> ash_workz: did you disable secure boot in the bios?
[20:04] <ikonia> ash_workz: really ?
[20:04] <ash_workz> ducasse: no
[20:04] <ducasse> ash_workz: there you go, then.
[20:04] <ikonia> ash_workz: that problems is that the kernel module has not been rebuilt
[20:04] <ash_workz> awesome
[20:04] <ikonia> after a kernel update
[20:04] <aiello> ikonia: sure, understood. I've tried using the Xorg drivers with the same result. Also attempted to use Xinerama since the cards are identical with no joy. I do have two x servers setup via the nvidia x server configuration tool, and for all intents and purposes, I can move my mouse across the displays as would be expected, but the 'desktop' and individual windows won't show up on that display.
[20:05] <ikonia> ash_workz: however if you're using the ubuntu provided virtualbox package that normally manages the module with a kernel hook on upgrade
[20:05] <twig11> ducasse: nothing, as far as I can see, except that the cursor changes to busy for a few seconds, the hard drive reads for a bit (maybe unrelated) and no window opens. Should it make a difference if the app I'm using is just a bash interface?
[20:05] <twig11> I have Qterminal open now, as it's willing to open a window, unlike the Gnome terminal app.
[20:06] <ikonia> aiello: I "think" nvidia x server config tool pushes twinview still....
[20:06] <ikonia> aiello: you may need to check that as I'm working from memory
[20:06] <ash_workz> k, trying
[20:06] <ducasse> ash_workz: just disable sb, and vbox should work. you might need to rebuild the modules, not sure.
[20:06] <bhudipta> ?
[20:06] <ash_workz> oh
[20:06] <ash_workz> how do I do that?
[20:06] <ash_workz> rebuild the modules?
[20:06] <twig11> ducasse: that's why I'm thinking I might be having drive problems. Yesterday some apps just quit opening or responding and then when I rebooted to see if that would fix it, I got dropped to a busybox prompt and had to fsck it to get it to boot again.
[20:07] <aiello> ikonia: wilco - I'll double check after work and will circle back 'round on here with more real-time information at that point. Appreciate the help and direction to investigate!
[20:07] <ikonia> aiello: sorry I can't be more specific
[20:07] <ikonia> bit rusty working from memory
[20:07] <ducasse> ash_workz: look for it in the bios, there should be a setting. it might be labelled 'windows or "other os"'
[20:07] <bhudipta> hello everyone !
[20:07] <ikonia> aiello: it is possible though, I've had a 4 headed display setup with 2 nvidia cards,
[20:07] <aiello> no worries, certainly further than I got
[20:07] <ash_workz> ducasse: I meant the moduels
[20:08] <ash_workz> r:el
[20:08] <ducasse> ash_workz: oh, just do 'apt install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms'
[20:08] <ash_workz> ah
[20:08] <ash_workz> okay
[20:08] <ash_workz> bbs
[20:09] <twig11> ducasse: this is the terminal I've been using during this session: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/442/drop-down-terminal/
[20:10] <anonymous_> hi
[20:11] <ioria> twig11,  i'd take a look at this /snap/ubuntu-core/1357/usr/lib/python3.5/_sysconfigdata.py   how come you have it in your system (3 of them) ?
[20:11] <Quick> : DD
[20:11] <anonymous_> hello
[20:11] <anonymous_> i find new friends
[20:12] <Quick> no friends for you
[20:12] <ducasse> twig11: i really don't know - sorry. it's kind of hard to narrow your problems down, because i suspect there are more than one. also i've been staring at a screen for 14 hours now :)
[20:12] <ducasse> !topic | anonymous_
[20:12] <anonymous_> haha
[20:12] <anonymous_> est rysskie &
[20:13] <anonymous_> rebyat
[20:13] <anonymous_> syka blyat
[20:13] <ikonia> anonymous_: english only please
[20:13] <anonymous_> i speak to russian
[20:13] <ducasse> !ru | anonymous_
[20:13] <ikonia> anonymous_: there are many russian channels
[20:14] <anonymous_> join #ubuntu-ru
[20:14] <twig11> ducasse: dude, get some sleep :D Thanks anyhow.
[20:14] <twig11> ioria: I tried to follow instructions to set up snaps in the past and failed a time or so. I don't understand how snaps work so I probably shouldn't mess with them. I don't even know how to fix that issue. What do you recommend?
[20:14] <anonymous_> who is speak russian ?
[20:15] <ikonia> anonymous_: no-one here
[20:15] <ducasse> twig11: i will, soon :) btw, can you remember if you've used pip/pip3 to install/upgrade python stuff?
[20:15] <twig11> ducasse: I think I have.
[20:15] <ioria> twig11,  i don't use snapd, but maybe there's a way to reverse that
[20:16] <ducasse> twig11: that could be at the root of this.
[20:16] <ducasse> twig11: ioria you can rollback snaps, if that is the question?
[20:16] <ioria> ducasse, yes
[20:16] <twig11> I don't think I'm currently relying on any snap apps anyway. But I've never figured out how to roll them back or remove them properly.
[20:16] <carry> how do i get a new software
[20:17] <ducasse> ioria: 'man snap', search for 'revert' option
[20:17] <ash_workz> I can't get the settings screen to come up
[20:17] <ash_workz> isn't it F10
[20:17] <ash_workz> ?
[20:17] <k1l> carry: you mean update software or install new software?
[20:17] <ioria> ducasse, still on trusty ( no man snap) :þ
[20:17] <ducasse> ash_workz: often del, depends on your machine
[20:17] <ash_workz> bios*
[20:18] <OerHeks> del / f2 / esc
[20:18] <ducasse> ioria: in short it lets you revert to a specified revision, the previous one if none specified
[20:18] <carry> nsall
[20:18] <ducasse> !software | carry
[20:19] <ioria> ducasse, i see, thanx
[20:19] <OerHeks> ash_workz, the F key without dust on it
[20:19] <k1l> carry: ?
[20:20] <anonymous_> who is help me to hack social web ?
[20:20] <ikonia> no-one
[20:20] <ikonia> please don't ask again
[20:20] <ducasse> anonymous_: stop that, please
[20:20] <k1l> anonymous_: no hacking in here. this is for ubuntu support only. if you want to do illegal stuff freenode is the wrong irc server
[20:20] <anonymous_> why ?
[20:20] <Zewwy> lol
[20:20] <ioria> twig11, you still get the 'pithos' errror ?
[20:21] <Zewwy> if you intent is to do pen testing thats one thing
[20:21] <Zewwy> if your goal is malicous intent, gtfo
[20:21] <ikonia> Zewwy: tone it down please
[20:21] <Zewwy> sorry
[20:21] <anonymous_> you are not hackers ?
[20:21] <Zewwy> just don't like black hat
[20:21] <ikonia> no problem
[20:21] <ikonia> anonymous_: no
[20:21] <anonymous_> so sorrow
[20:21] <ikonia> anonymous_: you know enough english to ask to hack - READ the topic and the rules of the channel before talking again please
[20:23] <anonymous_> well i dont know english because i am Ukrainian!
[20:23] <genii> anonymous_: Freenode is an IRC network which the main purpose is to provide a place for people to collaborate on open-source and similar projects. It is unlikely you will a channel or community on it's network to assist with your question.
[20:23] <pupps> guys, any reason why (when having two interfaces on a server) when the second interface is brought down and then up i can ping a server on its subnet... but after some minutes again not... ping replies are being sent by the server but somehow filtered
[20:24] <anonymous_> good bye guys
[20:24] <ikonia> pupps: reply based routing
[20:24] <Zewwy> ^^ what genii said
[20:24] <twig11> ioria: I still do if I try to uninstall pithos.
[20:24] <MrOpenSource> when I try to install GKSU i get this error http://pastebin.com/hgwrv9Vi
[20:24] <ioria> twig11, ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | grep pithos
[20:25] <k1l> MrOpenSource: what are you trying?
[20:25] <MrOpenSource> installing sudo apt install gksu
[20:25] <k1l> MrOpenSource: why?
[20:25] <twig11> ioria: no output
[20:25] <carry> i need help please
[20:25] <MrOpenSource> in case to install pulseaudio
[20:26] <k1l> carry: which what exactly?
[20:26] <pupps> ikonia:  can you explain a bit plz?
[20:26] <luna__> Moms new computer is done: https://i.imgur.com/ExtwknV.jpg :)
[20:26] <OerHeks> MrOpenSource, update first.
[20:26] <ikonia> pupps: are both cards on different subnets ?
[20:26] <ioria> twig11, the .deb is gone then ...
[20:26] <MrOpenSource> ok
[20:26] <pupps> ikonia: yes
[20:26] <k1l> MrOpenSource: what ubuntu is it? why do you need to isntall pulseaudio? that should be standard already
[20:26] <MrOpenSource> 16.04 LTS
[20:26] <ikonia> pupps: they are connected to different switches ?
[20:26] <twig11> ioria: weird. I'm in over my head here.
[20:26] <carry> with a program
[20:26] <pupps> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/DPLrzPDj
[20:26] <k1l> MrOpenSource: that doesnt make sense
[20:27] <jubant123> hi, is it best to install .deb packages with Software Install or with gdebi?
[20:27] <jubant123> Running Ubuntu 16.10
[20:27] <k1l> carry: please explain what is the issue at all. so far i only understand "my car is broken"
[20:27] <pupps> ikonia: no, they both connect to a firewall, i sniffed on the firewall and can see the replies being sent back to the server fine, they just seem to be filtered somehow on the server side...
[20:28] <k1l> jubant123: or dpkg -i on cli. they all should work
[20:28] <ducasse> twig11: can you pastebin output of 'sudo apt install -f'?
[20:28] <ikonia> pupps: would it be right for me to guess it's something on the 10.10.11.x subnet that's failing to respond ?
[20:28] <jubant123> dpkg -i package.deb? like this?
[20:28] <jnewt> is there an issue with the drivers for nvidia quadro cards? mine is m2000.  i've tried the nvidia 367.57, 370.28, 378.09.  all of them seem to have issues when i'm xrdp/vnc/x2go into the machine.  I can't seem to find much tying this to graphics.  I get errors when trying to start firefox (seg fault), chrome (glx, gpu process), nvidia-settings (seg fault), time-admin (seg fault) just to name a few.
[20:28] <k1l> jubant123: yes
[20:29] <ducasse> jubant123: or apt install package.deb
[20:29] <twig11> ducasse: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949830/
[20:29] <pupps> ikonia: correct... <IP_ADDRESS>... the final goal is for me to ping <IP_ADDRESS> but i'm going step by step.... weirdly enough when i do an ifdown and ifup all works for 1-2 minutes then stops receiving replies
[20:29] <jubant123> do i need to run it with sudo or not?
[20:29] <jubant123> in both cases of apt install and dpkg -i
[20:29] <jnewt> anyone know if this is a graphics card issue, or the remote protocols, or Xorg?  I dont' even know where to start looking for answers
[20:30] <ikonia> pupps: your routing looks "odd"
[20:30] <ikonia> pupps: you have 10.10.10.x and 10.10.11.x both going out of eth1
[20:30] <ikonia> pupps: is that intentional
[20:30] <k1l> MrOpenSource: what ubuntu is that exactly? what is the issue? why is pulseaudio missing (thats the standard soundserver)? why do you install gksu?
[20:31] <pupps> ikonia: yeah, as i said, the final goal is for 10.10.10.x to be accessible via <IP_ADDRESS> (kind of like a gateway)
[20:31] <ioria> twig11,  you can try to reinstall  it ....
[20:31] <ikonia> pupps: what is <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:31] <pupps> ikonia: firewall
[20:31] <twig11> ioria: reinstall what, pithos? Or Ubuntu?
[20:31] <MrOpenSource> k1l_ Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (Xenial Xerus) 64bit
[20:31] <ikonia> pupps: so have you set the interface eth1 up as a router ?
[20:31] <twig11> ducasse, ioria: shall I reboot and see if my drive goes haywire again. I'm connected to the chat from another machine, and it seems a little futile to be trying to troubleshoot something if it's possible that it's bad sectors on the drive causing the problem.
[20:31] <ikonia> pupps: eg: iptables or something routing the packets ?
[20:32] <ioria> twig11,  pithos,    sudo apt-get --force-yes install   pithos
[20:33] <pupps> ikonia: no, the server <IP_ADDRESS> (server eth1) needs to reach (<IP_ADDRESS> another server) via <IP_ADDRESS> (firewall)
[20:33] <twig11> ioria: same errors: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949846/
[20:33] <ikonia> pupps: what interface has a 10.10.10 ip address assigned to it ?
[20:34] <ioria> twig11,  dpkg -l pithos
[20:34] <k1l> MrOpenSource: i still dont understand the issue behind that all
[20:34] <pupps> ikonia: none that subnet is not directly attached to the server hence why it needs to be routed through <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:34] <ikonia> pupps: so then you need to setup routing on your box
[20:34] <ikonia> otherwise it's just going to go nowhere
[20:35] <MrOpenSource> k1l: i tried to install pulseaudio but i get this error E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[20:35] <k1l> MrOpenSource: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:35] <ikonia> pupps: although I'm surprised your getting any traffic out of that to the firewall on the 10.10.10 address range
[20:35] <MrOpenSource> then termianl said i should install gksu
[20:37] <ducasse> twig11: try 'sudo dpkg -C'
[20:38] <k1l> MrOpenSource: gksu is somewhat deprecated. that is why makes me wonder
[20:38] <k1l> MrOpenSource: so your story is still missing a lot
[20:38] <MrOpenSource> k1l: I am very new to ubuntu and still do not know so much about it, I am still learning
[20:39] <MrOpenSource> k1l: i install ubuntu for first time today
[20:40] <k1l> MrOpenSource: you were asking ubuntu things the last days already. that makes me wonder. but again: pulseaudio is preinstalled already. what ubuntu is that at all?
[20:40] <twig11> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949890/
[20:41] <twig11> ducasse: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23949901/
[20:41] <MrOpenSource> does it helps you No LSB modules are available.
[20:41] <MrOpenSource> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[20:41] <MrOpenSource> Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
[20:41] <MrOpenSource> Release:        16.04
[20:41] <MrOpenSource> Codename:       xenial
[20:42] <k1l> MrOpenSource: is this lubuntu?
[20:42] <ioria> twig11,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure pithos
[20:43] <twig11> ioria: sudo dpkg-reconfigure pithos
[20:43] <twig11> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: pithos is broken or not fully installed
[20:44] <ioria> twig11,  we knew that
[20:44] <twig11> ioria: sudo dpkg --configure pithos
[20:44] <twig11> dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[20:44] <MrOpenSource> k1l: Xubuntu
[20:45] <k1l> MrOpenSource: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:45] <k1l> and show the output on a pstebin service
[20:47] <MrOpenSource> http://pastebin.com/FA9978Zu
[20:47] <ioria> twig11,  this is my last guess;  you can try to mv all the pithos related files from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to (e.g.) Desktop and run again sudo apt install -f :  cp  /var/lib/dpkg/info/pithos* ~/Desktop/
[20:49] <twig11> ioria: sudo apt install -f
[20:49] <twig11> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[20:49] <twig11> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[20:49] <OerHeks> MrOpenSource, precise 12.04 with xenial sources and opensuse ... oink
[20:49] <k1l> MrOpenSource: ok. so please stop telling lies now: what ubuntu is this? its not a fresh installed ubuntu 16.04
[20:49] <ioria> twig11,  that's another story
[20:50] <ducasse> twig11: you have another apt/dpkg running somewhere
[20:50] <Proksima> Any idea why since a little while after my laptop has suspended for too long it shutdown by itself? :/ Quite annoying...
[20:50] <twig11> How do I find and shut it down?
[20:50] <MrOpenSource> k1l: 1h ago I installed the Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Iso from the offical ubuntu site https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[20:50] <ioria> twig11,  do you other installing programs running ?
[20:51] <twig11> ioria: not that i know of.
[20:51] <Fudster> Could anyone have a look at this? Apt-get won't install anything :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/23949964/
[20:51] <k1l> MrOpenSource: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:52] <nacc> Fudster: are you on vivid (15.04)?
[20:52] <ioria> twig11,  reboot
[20:52] <Fudster> nacc, Yes.
[20:52] <ducasse> twig11: 'sudo pkill dpkg'
[20:52] <geoffrey_> bonsoir
[20:52] <arooni> can anyone tell me what updatedb.mlocate does ?
[20:52] <k1l> Fudster: that version is outdated and in no supported ubuntu. which ubuntu are you on?
[20:52] <geoffrey_> beaver et tu la ?
[20:52] <arooni> or what mlocate does in general?
[20:52] <k1l> Fudster: oh, 15.04 is dead. you need to upgrade asap
[20:53] <twig11> ducasse: didn't work. rebooting.
[20:53] <MrOpenSource> http://pastebin.com/KQij58Ti
[20:53] <Fudster> k1l, Kinda scared to do so to be honest. Last time I did a system upgrade it broke my LXC container. Permisson issues etc.
[20:53] <OerHeks> !info mlocate
[20:53] <luna__> pimped the box with stuff for mom: https://i.imgur.com/MhY83YP.jpg :D
[20:53] <ducasse> arooni: builds a database to locate files, 'man locate'/'man updatedb'
[20:53] <k1l> MrOpenSource: so you changed the ubuntu sources.list?
[20:54] <k1l> MrOpenSource: i will be honest with yout: make a clean reinstall and dont change the source.list
[20:54] <ioria> twig11, sorry, it was    sudo   mv  /var/lib/dpkg/info/pithos* ~/Desktop/
[20:55] <Zewwy> ikonia: You still around?
[20:55] <MrOpenSource> k1l: okey I am kind dumb and new to this operating system, I just installed 1-3 programs
[20:55] <k1l> MrOpenSource: and i strongly suggest you reduce the usage of 3rd party repos or sources
[20:55] <twig11> ioria: yeah, my head is spinning or I would have caught that myself. I do know the difference between cp and mv, just barely.
[20:56] <ioria> twig11, yeah
[20:56] <twig11> ioria: the good news is reboot went okay so the hard drive didn't fail on me yet.
[20:56] <ducasse> MrOpenSource: a bit more than 1-3...
[20:56] <k1l> MrOpenSource: no. you changed your ubuntu sources to 12.04 since you used some custom sources.list builder. then you activated more than 10 PPAs. that is not a "i just insatlled 16.04"
[20:56] <ioria> twig11, that's good
[20:57] <MrOpenSource> I can post you all command is used one sec
[20:58] <MrOpenSource> http://pastebin.com/Rih9eu7P
[20:58] <Zewwy> Alright so i installed tomcat via apt-get which was way simpler than the blog I was following, my question is now, do I just have to use the same systemctl line to set it to "enable" or start at boot?
[20:58] <pupps> ikonia: sorry had to rush out... ignore the 10.10.10.x network for a bit... on the second interface i cant seem to ping the <IP_ADDRESS> sometime after the down/up
[20:58] <MrOpenSource> I guess I should keep my ass by win7 or so IDK
[20:58] <Zewwy> PWM:~$ sudo systemctl enable tomcat8
[20:58] <Zewwy> tomcat8.service is not a native service, redirecting to systemd-sysv-install
[20:58] <Zewwy> Executing /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable tomcat8
[20:58] <Zewwy> Nice!
[20:59] <Zewwy> Thanks ikonia
[20:59] <k1l> MrOpenSource: again: you changed your sources.list to ubuntu 12.04 manually.
[20:59] <k1l> MrOpenSource: that has nothing to do with better staying on windows.
[21:00] <ducasse> MrOpenSource: did someone give you those 'first steps' instructions?
[21:01] <MrOpenSource> k1l: I know what you mean but, sometimes I do not know what I do, or what I have to do at fresh installed system
[21:01] <MrOpenSource> I have it from a youtube video he explaiend what to do after fresh installed system
[21:01] <k1l> MrOpenSource: i guess you followd some cool youtubevideo or something made by a bloke who doesnt have a clue what he suggest
[21:01] <ducasse> MrOpenSource: ok, he's an idiot.
[21:01] <Pici> Or perhaps it was posted when 12.04 was current.
[21:02] <Fudster> An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool.
[21:02] <Fudster> :(
[21:02] <nacc> !eol | Fudster
[21:02] <nedstark> maybe it was a traaaap
[21:02] <k1l> MrOpenSource: ok, so why dont you make a fresh install and dont follow bad howtos but start using it. and if you have an issue or a question you come here and ask?
[21:02] <ducasse> Fudster: you need to go via wily
[21:02] <zeekhuge> What .config file is used for the Kernel that comes packed in Ubuntu (or any distro for that matter) ?
[21:03] <Fudster> ducasse, wily?
[21:03] <nacc> zeekhuge: see /boot/config-`uname -r`
[21:03] <MrOpenSource> k1l: okey that is good idea, I will do this fresh install tomrrow, its already so late here
[21:03] <zeekhuge> I mean, how does this very closely matches with the drivers that there are in so many systems ?
[21:03] <nacc> zeekhuge: for other distros, they often puyt it in /boot as well, or you can sometimes (depends on the .config) /proc/config.gz
[21:04] <k1l> Fudster: you need to upgrade to 15.10 first. then to 16.04.  you are already several years late not, so you need to make more effort. read the bots message on !eolupgrade
[21:04] <ducasse> Fudster: 15.10, go 15.04->15.10->16.04
[21:04] <MrOpenSource> k1l: would be nice to have people who tells to an new user to use ubuntu or in general what to do
[21:05] <k1l> MrOpenSource: the reason we react that way is because we have several users following youtube videos who have rubbish howtos.and we need to fix the mess then.
[21:05] <zeekhuge> Rewordin my question : I mean, how does this (all the driver included in the kernel) very closely matches with the devices that there are in so many systems ?
[21:05] <Fudster> k1l, ...This looks hacky. I been told not to install packages ahead of my version
[21:05] <k1l> MrOpenSource: start using it like you would use it on windows. if you need help come in here
[21:05] <nedstark> MrOpenSource: you can fix your sources list, but if you have a bunch of 12.04 packages installed, you'd probably fix it quicker installing a fresh copy of 16.04
[21:05] <MrOpenSource> k1l: yes I can understand you in this case, i just saw to watch a few videos would be nice to get this system better to know
[21:06] <k1l> Fudster: no, you need to change the sources.list like its told on the ubottus link-
[21:06] <k1l> Fudster: you are years too late for the "easy upgrade". now you need more manual work
[21:06] <daniel_>
[21:07] <k1l> MrOpenSource: its like car driving: you dont learn it by just watching. you need to drive it.
[21:07] <MrOpenSource> k1l: true story
[21:10] <MrOpenSource> what is best way to install Ubuntu, Just erase disk and install Ubuntu or, manual partitioning ubuntu
[21:10] <Fudster>  Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-security/mu                                                                                ltiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:10] <Fudster> Wrong?
[21:11] <daniel_> .
[21:11] <BlueShark> MrOpenSource: depends on your requirements. if you have nothing else on the hdd that needs preserving, it's best to wipe everything and install
[21:11] <BlueShark> for me, it's just manual repartitioning every time
[21:12] <texla> During start-up of 16.04 I have a number of older kernels listed...I would like to reduce them to the current and two other for if needed --How do I delete
[21:12] <BlueShark> sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:12] <MrOpenSource> I have nothing on my hard driver, only Ubuntu System
[21:12] <zuiss1> the version of minitube in 16.04 is broken. you can't search anything. can anyone suggest what i should do to get a working copy?
[21:13] <k1l> MrOpenSource: the standard install is fine to start iwth
[21:13] <k1l> *with
[21:13] <MrOpenSource> ok
[21:14] <kzet> I'm having connection issues to se.archive.ubuntu.com when I'm trying to apt-get something. I've tried rebooting, I've tried uncommenting the 54th line in /etc/gai.conf - can't get it to work.
[21:16] <FManTropyx> when will Ubuntu have Qt5?
[21:16] <Ghost_Inductee> Hi all
[21:16] <Pici> FManTropyx: now?
[21:17] <FManTropyx> my Ubuntu only has 4
[21:17] <ducasse> !info qt5-default | FManTropyx
[21:18] <ducasse> FManTropyx: which ubuntu are you on?
[21:18] <Pici> ducasse: fwiw, I'm on 14.04 and that package is available
[21:19] <ducasse> Pici: didn't say it wasn't :)
[21:19] <jabant13> hi, if i install virtualbox from the .deb for 16.10 will i get updates for it in the future?
[21:19] <jabant13> or do i need to do something else too
[21:20] <digbychicken> jabant13, I usually get a pop-up in the VBox GUI that lets me know a new version is available.
[21:20] <digbychicken> jabant13, I'll go download it, then do the .deb install again. It saves my VMs without issue.
[21:20] <jabant13> but would i get updates for it if i run sudo apt upgrade?
[21:21] <ducasse> jabant13: not without adding a repo
[21:21] <digbychicken> Yes ^^
[21:21] <FManTropyx> ducasse, this is 16.04.1 and I installed Qt-SDK from the reposition
[21:21] <jabant13> on virtualbox's site it gives a line which seems to be for 16.04
[21:21] <zuiss1> 16.04 has qt5
[21:22] <jabant13> deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian xenial contrib
[21:22] <jabant13> would this work for 16.10?
[21:22] <jabant13> or do i need to change the xenial part with something else
[21:22] <ducasse> FManTropyx: qt-sdk depends on qt4, it seems, but 16.04 has qt5
[21:22] <ducasse> jabant13: you can't just change it, it needs to exist as well
[21:23] <nedstark> jabant13: it should work fine, people use virtualbox in 16.10 and there's no difference between the versions for 16.10 and 16.04
[21:23] <nedstark> or from debian for that matter
[21:24] <ducasse> jabant13: replace xenial with yakkety - there are packages for it
[21:24] <jabant13> i will try it now, ducasse
[21:24] <therealtbe> how to see if a package exists in a certain repo (Ubuntu 14.04 )
[21:25] <wiresy> hello all people here, I'm looking for a command to find a word or word group in the files of a folder. I found these posts but they offer a lot of different commands, some of which I tried and couldnt make work so far. I am wondering if it is because I am on a live cd and any package is missing to run grep or find commands
[21:25] <wiresy> these are the posts I found : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16956810/how-to-find-all-files-containing-specific-text-on-linux
[21:25] <twig11> ducasse: I did 'sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/pithos* ~/Desktop/' as ioria suggested. Then I ran sudo apt install -f. the output is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23950138/
[21:26] <twig11> I also am still unable to open the Gnome Terminal app from the activities overview
[21:26] <ducasse> twig11: what about 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'?
[21:26] <tony> Hi world
[21:27] <texla> During start-up of 16.04 I have a number of older kernels listed...I would like to reduce them to the current and two other for if needed --How do I delete
[21:27] <wiresy> in any command I tried the terminal jumps to command prompt without any output
[21:27] <wiresy> jumped*
[21:27] <twig11> ducasse: the problem with a phantom dpkg running somewhere is fixed, but the original problem of the errors in apt and the half-installed pithos are still there.
[21:28] <ducasse> twig11: try 'sudo dpkg -P --force-all pithos' again
[21:30] <tony> Grubling over Grub any one know a good introduction, am not hungry though.
[21:30] <twig11> ducasse: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove pithos which isn't installed
[21:31] <k1l> therealtbe: apt search packagename
[21:31] <MrOpenSource> k1l: I reinstall ubuntu now and then I will join with browser in this IRC chat
[21:31] <therealtbe> k1l:  but I need to know for a different repo
[21:31] <therealtbe> isn't there a bot shortcut called like !exists  ?
[21:31] <therealtbe> I thought I could say like  !exists CloudCompare  Trusty
[21:31] <ppf> there's !info
[21:31] <twig11> ducasse: the pithos icon still shows up in the app menu though, and it won't install or uninstall cleanly.
[21:31] <ppf> but packages.ubuntu.com is less spamy
[21:31] <k1l> therealtbe: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <ppf> !info CloudCompare trusty | therealtbe
[21:32] <k1l> therealtbe: also there is !info command for the bot. but just joining here and spam that to the channel is not the intended use :)
[21:32] <jabant13> thanks ducasse, it worked
[21:32] <nedstark> texla: this explains http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/remove-old-kernels-ubuntu-16-04. just be aware the purge-old-kernels command only keeps the current 1 and 1 prior, so you'd have to do it manually to keep the 3rd one
[21:33] <therealtbe> if I have a package installed, is it possible to see where it came from (repo, or custom ppa) ?
[21:33] <ducasse> twig11: hmm. sorry, but i'm so tired now i'm utterly useless, got to get some sleep. ask the channel, see if someone can help. just point them to that last pastebin.
[21:33] <k1l> therealtbe: apt-cache policy pacakgename
[21:33] <twig11> ducasse: OK, thanks for your help, you've been great.
[21:34] <ducasse> twig11: no problem, hope you get it sorted.
[21:36] <ducasse> twig11: one hunch before i go - boot in recovery mode, and select the option to fix packages
[21:36] <tony> hi Room
[21:37] <twig11> ducasse: I'll give it a shot.
[21:37] <twig11> thanks
[21:39] <wiresy> I'd like to use those fantastic command line options to find text in files, can anyone help please?
[21:40] <Error02x> hello
[21:40] <dmatt> wiresy: for start type "man grep" into terminal
[21:41] <Error02x> etc/network/interfaces show only "lo"
[21:42] <Error02x> ifconfig shows my interfaces
[21:42] <k1l> Error02x: the network-manager handles the devices, not that file
[21:43] <wiresy> thank you, I know there is a long long long text help named grep but I have no time to sort things out alone. that's why I made web search but there are also a number of suggestions
[21:43] <wiresy> named man grep*
[21:43] <Error02x> Ahh thanks k1l :)
[21:43] <mitchgray> hey is anyone able to help me figure out what i cando to upgrade my desktop processor, or if even worth while, my motherboard and a processor
[21:44] <k1l> mitchgray: #hardware for hardware issues please
[21:44] <Hans-Martin> hi folks, a friend of mine has missed upgrading his laptop from 15.04 while it was still supported, and now he came to me for help (as usual, wait until the shit hits the fan, then ask a friend to fix it for you...). I know that upgrading from 15.04 is not supported, I'm just looking for some advice on how to best preserve the user data when installing 16.04.1.
[21:44] <mitchgray> okay, sorry im not really familiar with irc, do i go "/join #hardware?
[21:45] <k1l> mitchgray: yes
[21:45] <nacc> !eolupgrade | Hans-Martin
[21:45] <dmatt> wiresy: http://opensourceforu.com/2012/06/beginners-guide-gnu-grep-basics-regular-expressions/ start under header basic usage
[21:45] <Hans-Martin> nacc: thanks!
[21:46] <k1l> Hans-Martin: use the eol upgrade with pointing the sources.list to the old-releases to make the upgrade work again. go from 15.04 to 15.10 then to 16.04
[21:46] <ducasse> wiresy: exactly what do you want to do?
[21:48] <wiresy> ducasse, sort out some files by detecting them via text expressions that they contain
[21:48] <mitchgray> its not allowing me to message in hardware!?!
[21:49] <wiresy> ducasse, and these are .ods files
[21:49] <ducasse> wiresy: 'grep -l "this string" *.txt' will tell you which .txt files contain 'this string'
[21:49] <wiresy> ducasse, mine are all .ods files, so it works the same when I insert ods instead of txt?
[21:50] <ducasse> wiresy: if the files aren't plain text it's more complex. try.
[21:50] <Natsume> hi
[21:51] <ducasse> wiresy: linux cli tools are built to work with plain text
[21:51] <wiresy> ducasse, as I wrote, the terminal returns to command prompt
[21:51] <wiresy> no output
[21:52] <ducasse> wiresy: then you will need to convert them to text to use cli tools
[21:52] <wiresy> is it because I am on a bare live cd maybe?
[21:52] <wiresy> I mean, dvd
[21:52] <ChadTaljaardt> Could someone help me downgrade bazel?
[21:52] <Guest76273> any good program to change ip ?
[21:53] <Fudster> Is there a way to cancel a install? I can't install a package. It won't configure. I can't uninstall the package because...It's not installed. So Apt-get is stuck in a "Loop"
[21:53] <mitchgray> can anyone help me with chatting in hardware, i get a message saying "== Cannot send to channel: ##hardware"
[21:53] <ducasse> !register | mitchgray
[21:53] <mitchgray> !register
[21:54] <mitchgray> crap, havent used irc in years!
[21:54] <k1l> Fudster: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package_name
[21:54] <wiresy> so the mighty 'grep' or 'find' is of no use here?
[21:54] <k1l> wiresy: what do you plan at all there?
[21:54] <mitchgray> ! register mitchgray
[21:54] <mitchgray> !register mitchgray
[21:54] <k1l> wiresy: grep manpages at a live cd?
[21:54] <Fudster> k1l, Also I figured out why I am stuck in not configuring. Because /proc is write only
[21:54] <gorgolath> hi,i need help to flash the C.H.I.P computer ,i need to how to make Udev rules .i use zorin 12
[21:54] <nacc> mitchgray: stop that, just read the help from ubottu
[21:55] <wiresy> k1l, sort out some files by detecting them via text expressions that they contain
[21:55] <wiresy> ods files
[21:55] <ducasse> wiresy: as i said, un*x tools work with text.
[21:55] <k1l> Fudster: i guess a clean install of 16.04 is worth a plan
[21:55] <MrOpenSource> k1l: I am back i installed ubunt new and i just started my browse to come in this channel
[21:56] <k1l> MrOpenSource: fine
[21:56] <ash_workz> how do you remove a user from a group?
[21:56] <Fudster> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/23950312/
[21:56] <k1l> ash_workz: deluser user group
[21:57] <ash_workz> k1l: that doesn't remove the user from all groups?
[21:57] <ash_workz> `deluser` is a scary command
[21:57] <ash_workz> heh
[21:57] <Fudster> k1l, Figured it out.
[21:58] <k1l> ash_workz: from one group
[21:58] <princeso> hello people. Why would a raid 1 won't boot if i remove sda, and succesfuly boot if i remove sdb. I have the /boot partition as raid 1. 16.04 server.
[21:59] <ash_workz> what is the preferred user creation method agian? useradd or adduser?
[21:59] <k1l> ash_workz: on ubuntu its adduser
 exist instrucion what to do with new system, that I do not same fail like a few hours ago, cuz I really have not clue
[22:00] <admiralakber> Hi, I have an LXD question -- I want to mount /dev/dri and /dev/video in a container, I normally would do this with lxc.mount.entry in the container configuration file <-- where does LXD make these?
[22:00] <nacc> MrOpenSource: you don't have to *do* anything to a new system, just use it.
[22:01] <nacc> MrOpenSource: what you do to a system, totally depends on what you want to achive.
[22:01] <k1l> MrOpenSource: first dont try to see what the "most needed stuff to do" is. what do you want to do and see if ubuntu doesnt ship a solution preinstalled or in the official ubuntu repos.
[22:01] <wiresy> oh man
 actually I just want to install the programs I mostly use and nothing else, I wanna use ubuntu cuz it works better on my old laptop than windows 7 or 10
[22:02] <nacc> MrOpenSource: and what do you 'mostly use'?
[22:03] <k1l> MrOpenSource: what are the programs? keep in mind that not all programs have a native linux one and there might be other linux programs filling that gap
[22:03] <MrOpenSource> I mostly use Sportify Skype IRC chat Tor Browser Steam
[22:05] <krzysiu> hey :) How would you check RAM type (DDR, DDR2 - that kind of type) in shell? dmidecode --type 17 generally fails - either "unknown" or "not specified"
[22:05] <krzysiu> I only got that there are two slots, one is occupied. I.e. it works, but somehow I can't get full info.
[22:06] <admiralakber> MrOpenSource: Just install ubuntu server edition then install only the packages you want. You will need to install xorg yourself too.
[22:06] <krzysiu> maybe because it's very old machine
[22:06] <k1l> !tor | MrOpenSource
[22:06] <compdoc> krzysiu>, sudo lshw -short -C memory
[22:06] <k1l> admiralakber: that is not helpfull
[22:06] <Ben64> krzysiu: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:06] <compdoc> krzysiu
[22:07] <admiralakber> k1l: It's not? My bad then.
[22:07] <krzysiu> Ben64, didn't work but thanks!
[22:07] <k1l> MrOpenSource: steam got a native linux client. but not all games are ported to linux. so that depends on your games in use
[22:07] <krzysiu> compdoc, thanks, got it!
[22:07] <krzysiu> :)
[22:07] <Ben64> krzysiu: it does, if you google what ram works with that cpu
[22:07] <krzysiu> Ben64, ah, this way - right! :)
[22:07] <Ben64> alternatively, just open the case and look
[22:07] <k1l> MrOpenSource: are you german (because you got a german ip)
[22:07] <krzysiu> Ben64, it's too far away
[22:07] <krzysiu> in another room :/
 yes I am german
[22:08] <krzysiu> but really it has problems with starting, so I prefer to don't turn it off or even don't touch it - it easily loses connection to the ethernet and when it does, I can't access it
[22:09] <k1l> MrOpenSource: then the german wiki on ubuntuusers.de is a very good source for proper installation howtos and other helpful information: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spotify/
[22:09] <krzysiu> still lovely machine - I made it my homeserver just to learn Linux stuff - before that I didn't know anything. Now I know basics, but still much more.
[22:10] <krzysiu> and if I'd break it, then no worries
[22:11] <krzysiu> and as it's a laptop, it's 'green friendly'. I think it's a good way to learn - try to make it work, do some maintenace etc.
[22:11] <krzysiu> my little Herman... :)
[22:21] <Guest17292> 9 11 attacks, Did USA do it itself or it just let it happen?
[22:21] <Guest17292> Did USA administration murder 3000 American citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against iraq?
[22:21] <Guest17292> If al-qaeda did it, why go to kill 2 million Iraqi?
[22:21] <Guest17292> http://creatvchaos.blogspot.com.eg/
[22:21] <Guest17292> https://creatvchaos.wordpress.com/
[22:21] <Guest17292> Some of the benefits Americans say they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:
[22:24] <tmerr> Hi, I am porting some software that uses upstart to a newer version of ubuntu with systemd. I understand systemd remains compatible with sysV-style init scripts (in the /etc/init.d directory). Does it do anything with upstart style scripts or ignore them? (in the /etc/init directory)
[22:29] <Fudster> k1l, vivid isn't even in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[22:42] <ash_workz> to allow myself to use sudo without a password I need to add `ash_workz ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL` to visudo?
[22:43] <ash_workz> I mean, is that formatted correctly?
[22:45] <FRWB_> hey guys how do i sort top processes alphabetically? i tried 'top -o COMMAND' but it sorts them in reverse alphabetical
[22:46] <sharon_so> Hi, I am curious if it is a best practice to have some sort of tool that monitors hard disk from getting filled up and maybe memory from the same ? or that is not something that sys admins worry about ?
[22:47] <sharon_so> FRWB_: install htop
[22:47] <PercySnr> Try installin htop, it's much nicer, although that doesn't really answer your question
[22:47] <FRWB_> yeah that doesn't lol
[22:48] <FRWB_> but ooooook
[22:48] <k1l> FRWB_: R toggles the sort order
[22:48] <FRWB_> hm pulls up renice option in top, guess youre referring to htop
[22:50] <FRWB_> r pulls up renice option in top* not hm lol
[22:50] <k1l> FRWB_: use + or - with o to make the order
[22:51] <FRWB_> kll: are you referring to htop or top?
[22:51] <k1l> top
[22:51] <k1l> that is at least what the manpage tells
[22:51] <FRWB_> says 'A' mode is required
[22:52] <ChadTaljaardt> could someone help me downgrade bazel?
[22:52] <ChadTaljaardt> i haveno idea how to do it
[22:52] <FRWB_> Command disabled, 'A' mode required.... wth
[22:52] <k1l> You can prepend a `+' or `-' to the field name to also          override the  sort  direction.   A  leading  `+'  will  force            sorting  high to low, whereas a `-' will ensure a low to high           ordering.
[22:52] <bazhang> ChadTaljaardt, what is bazel
[22:52] <ChadTaljaardt> its a piece of software to compile programs
[22:52] <bazhang> !info bazel
[22:52] <k1l> top -o -FIELDNAME
[22:52] <ChadTaljaardt> i need to install tensorflow but use a older version and becuase bazel got updated its causing issues
[22:52] <ChadTaljaardt> so i need to use a older version
[22:53] <ChadTaljaardt> https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/4748
[22:53] <bazhang> ChadTaljaardt, what's the actual package name for bazel, and what version of ubuntu are you on
[22:53] <ChadTaljaardt> thats the issue im having but i dont know how to do the answer
[22:53] <noobhero> Hello :)
[22:53] <ChadTaljaardt> im on 16.10
[22:54] <ChadTaljaardt> https://alliseesolutions.wordpress.com/2016/09/08/install-gpu-tensorflow-from-sources-w-ubuntu-16-04-and-cuda-8-0-rc/
[22:54] <ChadTaljaardt> thats how i installed bazel
[22:54] <bazhang> ChadTaljaardt, so bazel is from some 3rd party repo
[22:54] <FRWB_> kll: yeah im doing top -o COMMAND to get sorted by command but its z-a and i need it a-z, but -/+ say 'A' mode is required
[22:54] <ChadTaljaardt> yeah i think so
[22:54] <FRWB_> oh wait just saw your earlier line
[22:55] <k1l> FRWB_: i am citing from the manpage
[22:55] <FRWB_> kll: that works thanks
[22:56] <FRWB_> kll: still has some out of order but good enough lol thanks mas
[22:57] <FRWB_> so weird i ran fluxgui once, then i guess it crashed and its not running but i cant start it again
[22:59] <twig11> I have an install of the pithos app (a Pandora player) that is broken and throwing a string of python errors every time I try to uninstall or reinstall. On the earlier advice of some on this channel, I have tried dpkg -f and other related commands, to no avail. The errors relate to Python packages that seem to be broken in some way. Here is a pastebin of the output when I attempt to remove the broken pithos install: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23950696/ I h
[22:59] <twig11> ave also booted Ubuntu into recovery mode and repaired packages from there, only to get the same errors. What's the next step to troubleshoot this problem?
[23:14] <twig11> I have an install of the pithos app (a Pandora player) that is broken and throwing a string of python errors every time I try to uninstall or reinstall. On the earlier advice of some on this channel, I have tried dpkg -f and other related commands, to no avail. The errors relate to Python packages that seem to be broken in some way. Here is a pastebin of the output when I attempt to remove the broken pithos install: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23950696/ I h
[23:14] <twig11> ave also booted Ubuntu into recovery mode and repaired packages from there, only to get the same errors. What's the next step to troubleshoot this problem?
[23:17] <jnewt1> having issues with my ubuntu setup.  i can't find a good way to remote into the machine that is usable.  i've tried xrdp, a couple of vnc options, and x2go.  the problem is not the connection itself, but many apps won't open: firefox (seg fault), chrome (glx & gpu process errors), time-admin (seg fault) nvidia-settiongs (seg fault).  started with the stable gfx driver but couldn't boot with more than one screen.  updated using the launchpad ppa to the
[23:17] <jnewt1> latest 378.09 so now i can boot with >1 monitor but have hit this problem and need some help.
[23:17] <jnewt1> card is m2000 running ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[23:18] <jnewt1> mate de
[23:22] <rxbad> hello
[23:23] <rxbad> hello
[23:24] <rxbad> anyone to chit chat
[23:24] <k1l> rxbad: #ubuntu-offtopic is the social channel :)
[23:25] <compdoc> this is a help channel. you can chit chat about your problem
[23:26] <rxbad> ok
[23:26] <rxbad> anyone from russia, here is region zona m
[23:27] <bazhang> !ru | rxbad
[23:27] <bazhang> rxbad, again this is ubuntu support Only
[23:28] <rxbad> ok
[23:43] <gde33> I had some unspecific instalation problem with lubuntu, I reinstalled it, ran sudo apt-get update but... now it says a dozen times: Target packages (....) is configured multiple times /etc/apt/sources.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list:53
[23:45] <sndnasdn1> i can't get any linux distro to boot. i even went and tried out bsd. i turned off secure boot, fast boot, and other things. i even unplugged my 1060 to see if it was the video card
[23:45] <sndnasdn1> nothing seems to work
[23:45] <sndnasdn1> i can boot into any windows os from a flash drive
[23:46] <gde33> sndnasdn1: maybe try wubi just to see if it works?
[23:46] <sndnasdn1> wubi is still around? i looked for that on the site
[23:46] <genii> No. forget wubi
[23:47] <gde33> sndnasdn1: I was just guessing, plx ignorez
[23:47] <bazhang> sndnasdn1, never use wubi
[23:48] <sndnasdn1> no one has an idea to try? i don't even get errors. it just hangs when it's suppose to boot into the gui
[23:48] <sndnasdn1> every distro does this
[23:50] <k1l> sndnasdn1: use nomodeset kernel setting, then install the nvidia driver after first boot
[23:50] <gde33> only liveusb's? or did you also try just install it?
[23:50] <sndnasdn1> i did that on another hdd gde33. it wouldnt boot after installing
[23:51] <sndnasdn1> i have done plenty of settings like that k1l. someone with the same problem with the same video card posted on the askubuntu forum and he never got a reply
[23:51] <sndnasdn1> but taking out my gpu doesn't fix the problem
[23:52] <genii> sndnasdn1: What cpu/motherboard/computer model?
[23:52] <sndnasdn1> i'll try one more time and just overwrite my windows partition. if that doesnt work ill just sell my computer parts and order older used parts. think i made the mistake of having modern hardware
[23:52] <sndnasdn1> z97mx gaming-5 from gigabyte, and a gigabyte gtx 1060
[23:53] <sndnasdn1> i know linux can work with this motherboard cause i ran fedora in the past when i had a different gpu
[23:53] <pragmatist1> Hello all, it would be great if someone here has the requisite knowledge to help me identify why my system keeps locking up. I'm running latest LTS on a brand new dell xps 15 9560. I have been trying to install the displaylink driver. Whenever I run the install script my system freezes. I narrowed it down to a udevadm call. If i type "udevadm trigger" my system locks up and I have to do a hard reboot.
[23:55] <sndnasdn1> i'll try my 10th attempt. ill be back later if it doesn't work. if not i'll just buy older pc parts and sell my new parts
[23:57] <gde33> about my problem, should I try restore the default repositories?
[23:57] <drjam> sndnasdn1, dude ive just gone 2 - 3 weeks and over 8 full installs, and a few partials with the same issue
[23:58] <k1l> gde33: what did you change there?
[23:58] <drjam> pressing F6 at the load screen of the live cd and adding nomodset got me to install
[23:58] <gde33> I had some unspecific instalation problem with lubuntu, I reinstalled it, ran sudo apt-get update but... now it says a dozen times: Target packages (....) is configured multiple times /etc/apt/sources.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list:53
[23:58] <drjam> once installed, it took another week to figure out i had to REMOVE nomodeset from the GRUB thing.....
[23:59] <drjam> and also, you have to re-create the grub thng with a command TOO....
[23:59] <k1l> gde33: grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:59] <gde33> k1l: or can I remove :53 some how?
[23:59] <k1l> gde33: and show the output link here
[23:59] <gde33> ill have to get the box on irc first
[23:59] <gde33> I guess I can make a pastie


[23:02] <qwebirc9189> Hi - I am trying to install with an intel e1000e NIC and its supported in base 14 ubuntu
[23:02] <qwebirc9189> I can install the driver afterwards
[23:02] <qwebirc9189> but I was hoping there was some way add during install
[23:48] <qwebirc9189> I meant the driver is not present in ubuntu 14
[23:48] <qwebirc9189> Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I219-V (rev 21)


[03:31] <QuietStorm81> evening all. can anyone help someone trying to upgrade to 12.10 in Atlanta and failing miserably?


[00:00] <JanC> at least, it's not the same issue for you
[00:00] <czajkowski> nods
[00:00] <czajkowski> thanks
[00:00] <JanC> but probably something is wrong with one of the menu definition files
[17:56] <cj> I'm looking to get a new laptop.  how well is the new lenovo hardware supported?  I'm tired of the SONY way.
[18:58] <asac> cj: what do you consider new lenovo hardware?
[20:30] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: hi.. how are you subscribed to bugs? you seem to be subscribed to several packages :)
[20:54] <asac> mac_v: not sure what you ask for, but if you are subscribed to package its technically a different subscription than being explicitly subscribed ... at least a few devs here have rules that boost bugmail with explicit subscription etc.
[20:56] <mac_v> asac: yeah , i'v seen several do that... bug i just went through some 200 odd papercut bugs , and i noticed chrisccoulson reply on several different packages.. so i was just wondering if he was subscribed to all ubuntu packages :)
[20:56] <mac_v> s/bug i/but i *
[20:56] <asac> most likely to a bunch of desktop packages :)
[20:57] <asac> which are probably the ones targetted most for papercuts
[20:57] <mac_v> yeah , maybe :)
[20:58] <asac> or desktop-bugs list
[20:58] <asac> or maybe just subscribed to hunderdpapercuts itself :)
[20:58] <mac_v> if anyone was subscribed to the papercuts... today , they would have just gone crazy today... ;p
[20:59] <mac_v> in 4-5hrs they would have received 200+ mails ;)
[21:52] <chrisccoulson> mac_v - i'm not subscribed to many packages
[21:52] <chrisccoulson> just a handful of core gnome ones
[21:53] <chrisccoulson> i have a quick look through the open bugs every now and again though, which is probably why you see me comment on a few ;)
[21:53] <mac_v> yeah should have guessed Chris Ccoulson Core dev ;)
[21:54] <chrisccoulson> i'm not a core dev ;)
[21:54] <mac_v> just kidding ;p
[21:54] <chrisccoulson> heh
[21:59] <mac_v> chrisccoulson: damn i missed the chance :(  ....  Chris "Core" Coulson sounds cooler ;)
[21:59] <chrisccoulson> lol