[15:44] <daftykins> do0fY3: but if you don't know how, are you really the person that should be doing this? bear that in mind
[15:44] <do0fY3> who else should. this is my HOMESERVER
[15:45] <do0fY3> Just running movie database on it
[15:45] <wildc4rd_> dead_12, the monitor doesn't drop to standby when the screen goes black with inactivity, just sits there, on, but black screen
[15:45] <daftykins> try the mentioned channel.
[15:45] <do0fY3> cant sent to #mysql
[15:47] <daftykins> do0fY3: you probably have to be registered, ask in #freenode for help.
[15:47] <do0fY3> mysql
[15:49] <do0fY3> getting crazy. :(
[15:49] <staticsn0w> guys
[15:50] <staticsn0w> when i do df -h it says my partition mounted as / has like, 90somthiing GB, does that mean i have that amount of storage left on my pc?
[15:50] <daftykins> read the columns carefully, it's quite obvious
[15:51] <daftykins> available = what's left
[15:51] <staticsn0w> im gonna take a guess and say that yes, that  is what i have left
[15:51] <daftykins> it's pretty clear, guessing isn't necessary
[15:51] <staticsn0w> yeah
[15:51] <staticsn0w> im just a noob and want to make sure i wont have to mess with anything to get more space
[15:52] <staticsn0w> EriC^^: i got ubuntu working :D
[15:52] <goog-srch-askubu> :-)
[16:11] <fep> is it ok to use software made for KDE in GNOME ?
[16:15] <yppo> I am trying to disable repeat current in cmus but i cannot find the meta key, anyone who is using it and knows how to trigger ^R?
[16:15] <yppo> Tried C-a
[16:15] <yppo> nvm
[16:16] <avis> ubuntu belongs to me.  please make my operating system splendid.
[16:16] <yppo> I needed to hold it don, not just trigger meta then press R
[16:23] <timpu> I'm looking to install a vector drawing program in Ubuntu. Is the popular Inkscape the best choice right now, or would you guys recommend something else, some less known newcomer maybe?
[16:23] <fep> is there some way software made for KDE can make GNOME fail?
[16:27] <OerHeks> timpu, inkscape is the one, else SK1 outside the repos > http://sk1project.org/
[16:28] <timpu> OerHeks: thank you!
[16:28] <OerHeks> hence you will find less alternatives, inkscape is the major tool linuxwide
[16:36] <akik> fep: if you have the needed libraries, then yes they can work. for example k3b burning software
[16:36] <question> prtsc button not working in wily 15.10 ( was working in previous versions), how to correct it ?
[16:38] <Timothy3> Hi
[16:38] <fep> question, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168008
[16:38] <Timothy3> I screwed up my Ubuntu install by doing mv /*  /var/www/somedirectory instead of "./*"
[16:39] <Timothy3> right now I rebooted into recovery mode as initframfs
[16:39] <Timothy3> and I'm trying to move back the files
[16:39] <Timothy3> but I can't because they're read-only
[16:39] <Timothy3> can anyone please help me?
[16:40] <daftykins> Timothy3: root shell?
[16:40] <fep> Timothy3, http://askubuntu.com/questions/47538/how-to-make-read-only-file-system-writable
[16:40] <daftykins> mount -o remount,rw /
[16:42] <Silvering> Hi everyone! I just started a machine running on Ubuntu 10.10. How can I upgrade the distribution to 15.10 ? Thx!
[16:42] <Timothy3> my root is broken because of the "mv" I did
[16:42] <Timothy3> when I try mount -o remount,rw /  I get "mount: can't read '/proc/mounts': No such file or directory"
[16:42] <belovedk> Silvering: install fresh one
[16:43] <Silvering> belovedk : Ok thx!
[16:44] <belovedk> You should back up your home directory and possibly if you need your applications, back them up using aptik
[16:46] <ioria> Timothy3, maybe you can do that from Livecd
[16:48] <TJ-> Timothy3: from the initial ramdisk busybox shell you'll first need to mount the root file-system, in order to work on it
[16:48] <Timothy3> I'm kind of a noob ^^
[16:48] <Timothy3> how do I know which folder is the root file-system?
[16:50] <TJ-> Timothy3: "cat /proc/cmdline" will report root=XXXX where XXX is the device containing the root file-system
[16:52] <Timothy3> No such file or directory
[16:52] <TJ-> Timothy3: are you sure you're at the initial ramdisk shell (busybox) ?
[16:52] <^74NK> help
[16:52] <Timothy3> pretty sure
[16:52] <^74NK> i have problems with dependencies
[16:53] <^74NK> whenever i try to install anything
[16:53] <Timothy3> It says "BusyBox v1.21.1 when I reboot
[16:53] <daftykins> type messages on one line, no using enter for punctuation
[16:53] <irut4i> hello! i would like to set some graphical program to start after xubuntu live cd boot. is this possible?
[16:54] <^74NK> sorry. So -  Depends: libudev1:i386 but it is not going to be installed or                                  libudev0:i386 but it is not installable E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:54] <^74NK> and i have huge list of these.
[16:54] <Timothy3> I found a forum post saying I should mount /dev/sda1, but that doesn't exists either
[16:55] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: Maybe best to pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' maybe we can see the root of the issue ?
[16:55] <^74NK> sure
[16:56] <Paaltomo> o/ hello
[16:57] <question> fep: daftykins simple sudo chmod +x/+777 /media/ubuntu/* is sufficient or not ? I had a usb drive which was read only but I transferred files to it by sudo cp/mv. after the command I gave previously usb is writable now
[16:58] <question>
[16:58] <TJ-> Timothy3: so you have the busybox shell; then the /proc/ file-system must exist since the /init script needs/uses it
[16:58] <^74NK> http://pastebin.com/Gvk3J9Ns
[16:58] <^74NK> Bashing-om:  ^
[16:58] <TJ-> Timothy3: do "ls /proc/" and check you see lots of entries
[16:59] <Timothy3> I get nothing
[16:59] <Timothy3> proc exists
[16:59] <Timothy3> but is empty
[17:01] <^74NK> Bashing-om: http://pasteboard.co/2OZC7xWO.png
[17:02] <TJ-> Timothy3: hmmm, you'll need to boot from a Live ISO then, and do it from a sane environment. It sounds like you've managed to also affect the initrd.img somehow
[17:02] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: Look'n be back shortly .
[17:02] <OerHeks> ^74NK, those packages libc6:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386  libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 so you want steam?
[17:03] <^74NK> yes
[17:03] <ioria> Timothy3, you should be able, to mount the partition and mv back files and folders .... from /var/www to /
[17:03] <^74NK> 0er i want a whole bunch of 5h17 on my pc.
[17:04] <Timothy3> I tried to mount it, but I think I'm mounting a mount
[17:04] <Timothy3> because I keep getting read-only warnings
[17:04] <Timothy3> even with mount -o rw
[17:04] <ioria> Timothy3, you are still in Recovery ... you need livecd
[17:04] <Timothy3> what's that?
[17:04] <ioria> Timothy3, the same support you used for install
[17:05] <ioria> Timothy3, at start, you have 'install ubuntu' or 'try ubuntu' .... the second this time
[17:05] <Timothy3> can I do that from a virtual private server?
[17:06] <ioria> Timothy3, idk, sy
[17:06] <OerHeks> ^74NK, old bug, answer #29 might apply for you if you run vivid https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/1424263
[17:07] <OerHeks> else the guys in #ubuntu-steam can tell
[17:07] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: You are missing the 32 bit libs to support steam . unfortunately I have no steam experience and at this point I do not know what to advise to get them installd .
[17:09] <TJ-> Timothy3: you cannot do a remount of the initial ramdisk root file-system
[17:10] <Timothy3> So my only option is to reinstall?
[17:10] <TJ-> Timothy3: that is NOT THE SAME as the root file-system used in the normally running system.
[17:11] <TJ-> Timothy3: the initial ramdisk file-system is an embedded file-system the kernel uses to boot-strap into the real userspace root file-system. Within the initial ramdisk file-system is an /init script that takes care of finding, mounting, and then piovoting to the userspace root file-system. That's the thing you need to manually mount to work on
[17:12] <^74NK> ok thank you Bashing-om  for taking your time.
[17:13] <Timothy3> Is there a way to do that?
[17:13] <^74NK> http://pasteboard.co/2P0piE31.png
[17:14] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: If I steamed, I would be of greater help . I would not want to lead you down the wrong path .
[17:14] <OerHeks> nice crosspost, you don't read answers, likely ..
[17:14] <^74NK> yeah sure, right now i'm trying to install anything from synaptic
[17:15] <^74NK> but i just got an error saying "fix broken packages first"
[17:15] <^74NK> ._.
[17:15] <TJ-> Timothy3: if /proc/cmdline is missing that suggests the /procfs isn't mounted, which should have been done as soon as the /init script started, with: "mount -t proc -o nodev,noexec,nosuid proc /proc" - you could try issuing that command now, and ten checking "ls /proc/" again after
[17:16] <OerHeks> tip: softwarecenter & synaptic open ..
[17:16] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: Heads up .. It is difficult to work from images .. best info is from the text outputs of terminal commands .
[17:17] <Timothy3> TJ- now proc is no longer empty
[17:18] <^74NK> Bashing-om:  i'm sorry i don't know where to start is it possible to fix all packages and libraries that are missing or invalid?
[17:19] <Timothy3> TJ- cat /proc/cmdline gives me "BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-71-generic root=/dev/mapper/vps01--vg-root ro recovery nomodeset"
[17:20] <TJ-> Timothy3: OK, so somehow you managed to boot without running the /init script!!!! That's a first in my experience!
[17:20] <arunpyasi> hello guys, I needed to install ffmpeg-php and ffmpeg in my ubuntu vps to run a php application. How can I setup ? Please show me an easy method
[17:21] <arunpyasi> I see that its unavailable in the repo and I only got ffmpeg from a PPA but not the php extension
[17:21] <TJ-> Timothy3: do "ls -l" do you see a file "/init" of around 7-8000 bytes listed
[17:21] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: It is always possible - this s 'buntu ! - .. do in a pastebin the outputs of ' sudo apt update ' and ' sudo apt upgrade ' so I have something familiar to work from . I might come up with the solution .
[17:21] <vfw> Lid close causes loss of access to WiFi on my HP Pavillion AB-223CL
[17:21] <vfw> Any ideas?
[17:22] <TJ-> vfw: ACPI power-saving possibly
[17:24] <Timothy3> TJ- nope
[17:24] <Timothy3> or wait
[17:24] <TJ-> Timothy3: so, it looks like either the initrd is empty or alternatively none was loaded
[17:24] <Timothy3> TJ- yes
[17:25] <^74NK> Bashing-om:  -http://pastebin.com/jzcMWE6g
[17:25] <TJ-> Timothy3: phew!
[17:25] <Timothy3> TJ- I thought you meant in the proc dir ^^
[17:25] <ysangkok> Does Ubuntu start pulseaudio via systemd's socket activation or the old autospawn mechanism?
[17:25] <TJ-> Timothy3: that's the script-file that the kernel should have executed when entering recovery mode. Not entirely sure why it didn't
[17:25] <Moonsilence> Hi! Does someone know, in Ubuntu how to disable the initial placement of small windows sticking directly adjacent to another window? Can the inital placement of windows be more random or independant of already opened windows?
[17:26] <OerHeks> The following packages have been kept back: steam:i386  ,, time to run apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:26] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: Look'n .
[17:26] <OerHeks> 74nk ^
[17:26] <^74NK> yeah start after 'clear' command
[17:26] <^74NK> before that i had synaptic open
[17:27] <Timothy3> TJ- can I maybe edit the grub loader so it mounts with rw?
[17:27] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: "  Could not get lock " most likely more than one instance of the package manager running ( apt, USC or synaptic ) close all out and try again .
[17:28] <TJ-> Timothy3: do "head -n 20 /init" and you'll see the first few lines it should have executed; you'll notice that 'mount' command for /proc, and another for sysfs and so on. Ideally you should prepare the environment by manually copying and executing those non-comment commands that appear before the line that ends "echo "Loading, please wait..." "
[17:28] <^74NK> Read last 2 lines
[17:29] <Timothy3> head: not found
[17:29] <TJ-> Timothy3: drat! I thought busybox had it as a built-in
[17:30] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: Uh Huh .. me slow down and look .. be back in a bit .
[17:30] <^74NK> :D
[17:30] <ysangkok> TJ-: it depends on the busybox configuration
[17:31] <OerHeks> ^74NK, still no answer in ##linux ? i gave the answer a while ago ..
[17:31] <^74NK> i dont know what i'm even looking for
[17:31] <^74NK> currently my goal is to be able to install bittorrent
[17:32] <Bashing-om> ^74NK: OK, as above, concurr . run ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' see if that will pull in " The following packages have been kept back: >> steam:i386 " .
[17:33] <drkoderz> hi
[17:33] <drkoderz> hey
[17:33] <^74NK> Bashing-om:  nope
[17:33] <^74NK> 0,0,0, and 1 not upgraded
[17:33] <^74NK> oh wait
[17:33] <^74NK> yes
[17:33] <irut4i> hello! i would like to set some graphical program to start after xubuntu live cd boot. is this possible?
[17:35] <Bashing-om> irut4i: Nope, " live cd boot. " they are not re-writeable .
[17:35] <truexfan81> is it strange that i actually get decent performance from unity on my ancient netbook?
[17:35] <irut4i> Bashing-om: but what if i change some contents of filesystem.squashfs?
[17:35] <Jaddie> Bashing-om, surely it would be possible if the live cd was modified before being burnt?
[17:35] <truexfan81> we talking intel atom 1.6 single core hyperthreaded cpu and intel gma950 graphics, 1GB ram
[17:36] <OerHeks> truexfan81, probably due to the small ssd inside
[17:36] <Jaddie> irut4i, that is what I was thinking, surely a pre-mod would mean anything is posible since its basically an installed copy of the OS
[17:36] <truexfan81> OerHeks: its running a 250GB 4500rpm hdd
[17:36] <Bashing-om> irut4i: Well, one can always re-write the operating image and write that image back to a disk .
[17:36] <OerHeks> but no fluently youtube, on my netbook
[17:36] <xargs> When is Ubuntu going to bring back the wallpaper where people's ass cheeks were touching in a circle? It was a top down view and you couldn't see their faces.
[17:36] <xargs> Remember that shit?
[17:37] <OerHeks> gma950 is not that ancient, i have that poulsbo gma 450 stuff :-(
[17:37] <xargs> It was gay as fuck.
[17:37] <truexfan81> OerHeks: i have the old acer zg5 netbook
[17:37] <irut4i> Jaddie: i'm looking to the contents of this file, but i can't find the right directory to write my commands to :/
[17:37] <OerHeks> !language | xargs
[17:37] <xargs> :(
[17:38] <truexfan81> its running 14.04.3 and unity works nicely, somehow i even get smooth tear-free playback with mpv
[17:39] <xargs> You have to check the wallpaper out, it was distributed with ubuntu. It was extremely wierd.  Ubuntu is Lion King.
[17:41] <^74NK> MELO you can make any usb flash stick into a bootable usb
[17:41] <xargs> Click click click
[17:41] <Jaddie> xargs, The only thing I could find was this haha http://orig01.deviantart.net/12cb/f/2007/163/7/d/ubuntu_sexy_2_by_sieg84.jpg
[17:41] <OerHeks> MELO, any dvd burn app will recognise an .iso as systemimage and chooses the correct settings
[17:41] <daftykins> xargs: drop it, grow up and leave please.
[17:42] <xargs> It's swahili for shitty fucking debian ripoff
[17:42] <MELO> I don't have any flash drive right now, I had like 3o f them but they suddenly they stopped working
[17:42] <MELO> and all im left with is a dvd drive
[17:42] <MELO> Can you recommend me some good dvd burn app?
[17:42] <OerHeks> brasero or k3b, both standard stuff in ubuntu /kubuntu
[17:43] <xargs> NETSPLIT!!!!!!111
[17:53] <arunpyasi> I see that its unavailable in the repo and I only got ffmpeg from a PPA but not the php extension
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> arunpyasi  try avconv, not ffmpeg
[17:57] <OerHeks> build it yourself, i can find it for precise only https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg-php
[17:57] <ioria> arunpyasi, http://askubuntu.com/questions/482436/php5-ffmpeg-not-available-in-14-04s-repos-what-now
[17:59] <OerHeks> to build > http://superuser.com/questions/803897/instalation-ffmpeg-in-ubuntu
[18:01] <vfw> HP 15 Pavilion has F-key functions inverted.  Any way to change that?
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> vfw  how is that ubuntu related?
[18:04] <akik> MonkeyDust: keys can be reassigned
[18:06] <RNeville> Bashing-om, thx for the help last night here on #ubuntu - seems like my upgrade problem was solved because of your help
[18:06] <RNeville> Thx , again, Bashing-om !  :)
[18:07] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Good, but left is making sure that you can boot a backup -33 kernel .
[18:09] <akik> for example, this changes f5 to f6 and vice versa: xmodmap -e "keycode  71 = F6 F6 F6 F6 F6 F6 XF86Switch_VT_6"; xmodmap -e "keycode  72 = F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 XF86Switch_VT_5"
[18:10] <Tsutsukakushi> why doesn't `plymouth ask-question --prompt "stuff" | read variable; echo $variable` work in rc.local?
[18:10] <akik> if you want to make the changes stick, you need to create a $HOME/.Xmodmap
[18:10] <Paaltomo> yay installing ubuntu rite meow :3
[18:17] <oualid> hi
[18:17] <vfw> MonkeyDust: The OS is Ubuntu
[18:18] <vfw> MonkeyDust: It is dual boot
[18:25] <hubbunny> hey goes does ubuntu restrict outbound dns traffic by default?
[18:27] <SlidingHorn> "morning" everyone
[18:28] <Bashing-om> SlidingHorn: 0/ Good help has arrived .
[18:31] <nolsen_> How to replace unity login screen with cinnamon's login screen?
[18:31] <nolsen_> erm, set cinnamon's login screen by default on boot.
[18:31] <TJ-> nolsen_: do you mean set the default 'greeter' ?
[18:32] <nolsen_> TJ-: Yes.
[18:33] <akik> vfw: you can output the whole x11 keyboard layout with "xmodmap -pke". it's a long list but there you could possibly identify the wrongly assigned function keys
[18:34] <wachin> Hi, I install kdenlive 15.08 in UbuntuStudio 15.10 x386 but are missing the icons from several buttons, do you know which dependences I need to install to make it appear
[18:35] <TJ-> nolsen_: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Changing_the_Greeter
[18:35] <RandomNoob> Hello guys. I have weird question. Ubuntu hurts my eyes. The color of screen is not good.  on of the screen i feel like Ubuntu orange http://design.ubuntu.com/brand/colour-palette.
[18:38] <nolsen_> TJ-: That doesn't really explain how to use cinnamon's greeter.
[18:44] <dcope> i'm trying to run an ubuntu machine without a display connected and just use it by VNC. i keep getting this error : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1556911/Screen%20Shot%202015-12-12%20at%201.44.30%20PM.png
[18:45] <sjjenni> I have a postfix installation and mail is working well, I want to use virtual_alias_domains and so I added that to my config, set up /etc/postfix/virtual, ran newalias and postmap and restarted postfix - I now get, according to the log, use unknown in virtual user table.  What have I forgotten to set ?
[18:46] <dcope> is it possible to just vnc as if i had a display connected to the machine?
[18:53] <SlidingHorn> wachin: kdenlive is a KDE application, and IIRC, Studio uses XFCE.  You'll have to download a bunch of KDE libs, etc.   First:     sudo apt-get install kdenlive frei0r-plugins dvgrab recordmydesktop dvdauthor mkisofs             Once finished, then:    sudo apt-get install kde-runtime   (this will install a LOT of libs)
[18:53]  * SlidingHorn will brb...needs coffee, etc.
[18:54] <cardude419_> hey, anybody know how to convert a .qed to a .img? my google-fu wasn't strong enough.
[18:55] <wachin> SlidingHorn: Go to
[18:57] <wachin> SlidingHorn: the kde-runtime is installed but are in the same state
[18:58] <ShantanuShady> Hi i'm having a problem with my ubuntu desktop first i thought it was because of something i broke but i i upgraded from 13.04 to 14.04 still the same , the problem is os gets stuck at shutdown i disabled plymouth animation so i can see what goes wrong and i see every program stops as the way its supposed to but stuck at "reboot : power down" then it stays like that forever some forums said to edit the gurb to force acpi but is it
[18:58] <ShantanuShady>  safe ? please point me to right direction.Thanks
[18:59] <TJ-> cardude419_: 'qemu-img'
[18:59] <cardude419_> @TJ- "qemu-img: Unknown file format 'img'"
[19:00] <cardude419_> @TJ- i used this command: "qemu-img convert -p -f qed -O img windows.qed windows.img"
[19:01] <TJ-> cardude419_: well, what is 'img' supposed to be? what file-format?
[19:01] <cardude419_> @TJ- .img is the output file format, .qed is the input
[19:02] <TJ-> cardude419_: "qemu-img --help" reports the supported file-formats. I'd assume that 'img' meant 'raw'
[19:02] <cardude419_> @TJ- ill try that
[19:02] <cardude419_> @TJ- yep that worked, thanks
[19:03] <TJ-> cardude419_: right, it would, but is what was written what you expect 'img' files to be?
[19:03] <cardude419_> @TJ- probably, i will see when its done
[19:04] <TJ-> cardude419_: 'raw' is literally like taking a bit-wise copy of a hard disk image. If that is what you mean by 'img' all well and good
[19:04] <cardude419_> @TJ- yes
[19:04] <arunpyasi> Guys, how to fix this ? configure: error: ffmpeg shared libraries not found. Make sure ffmpeg is compiled as shared libraries using the --enable-shared option
[19:04] <arunpyasi> OerHeks: ^^
[19:05] <OerHeks> arunpyasi,  that means you have to compile the whole ffmpeg yourself
[19:08] <SlidingHorn> wachin: did you run *both* commands?
[19:09] <RNeville> Bashing-om, sorry just now read your last post to me ! Can you help me make sure I can boot from backup kernel; if u have a link with info - would be great
 yes
[19:11] <arunpyasi> OerHeks: I did that but again while compining ffmpeg-php I got the error again
[19:11] <ShantanuShady>  Hi ChanServ i'm having a problem with my ubuntu desktop first i thought it was because of something i broke but i i upgraded from 13.04 to 14.04 still the same , the problem is os gets stuck at shutdown i disabled plymouth animation so i can see what goes wrong and i see every program stops as the way its supposed to but stuck at "reboot : power down" then it stays like that forever some forums said to edit the gurb to force acpi
[19:11] <ShantanuShady>  but is it safe ? please point me to right direction.Thanks
[19:12] <falcon_x> hello ubuntus
[19:13] <OerHeks> arunpyasi, maybe you run into the reason why that package is obsolete.
[19:13]  * Paaltomo hugs falcon_x
[19:13] <falcon_x> lovely ... Paaltomo ... I have questions , do you have answers?
[19:13] <Paaltomo> what's the best partition manager for Ubuntu :)
[19:13] <Paaltomo> haha I also have questions :3
[19:14] <falcon_x> Gparted
[19:14] <Paaltomo> great thanks :)
[19:14] <arunpyasi> OerHeks: hm.. yeah I needed to setup this cause I needed to setup ClipBucket.. :P
[19:14] <Paaltomo> maybe I can help with yours :3
[19:15] <SlidingHorn> wachin: please post the output of      apt-cache policy kdelibs-bin     to a pastebin for me
[19:16] <falcon_x> well ... I was about to ask "how hard is it for a newbie to tackle around with kali linux penetration tools
[19:16] <falcon_x> ?
[19:17] <Obviosly> Neeed help with ubuntu
[19:17] <OerHeks> falcon_x, very hard in this channel
[19:17] <OerHeks> !kali
[19:17] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Maybe the symlink has now been establised after the reboot ? .. show again ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ' . see what is to be done .
[19:17] <Obviosly> The Boot Grub Windows is bad
[19:17] <wachin> SlidingHorn: http://pastebin.com/gNq6hvpN
[19:17] <SlidingHorn> Paaltomo: there's never really a "best" program for everyone's purposes.  It's all about your preferences and what you like.  That being said, gparted seems to be the general standard around here :)
[19:18] <Obviosly> when i enter windows..the screen goes to some thing bad
[19:18] <Paaltomo> For sure, I actually had a more specific problem in that case, SlidingHorn
[19:18] <Paaltomo> I encrypted the main drive when i installed Ubuntu just now and I want to partition it
[19:18] <Paaltomo> GParted doesn't seem to want to divide the encrypted drive
[19:18] <Bashing-om> Obviosly: Video card and driver ?
[19:18] <SlidingHorn> Paaltomo: have you read this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[19:19] <Paaltomo> kickass thanks a lot bruv
[19:19]  * Paaltomo purrs and paws at SlidingHorn
[19:22] <SlidingHorn> !bug 1519099 | wachin this may apply to you
[19:23] <wachin> ubottu: Thanks for the info
[19:24] <SlidingHorn> wachin: if this affects you as well, be sure to sign into launchpad and add yourself to the list
 ok
[19:31] <Bashing-om> Obviosly: ^^ Are you watching the channel ?
[19:33] <masaccio> hi
[19:33] <masaccio> ola
[19:33] <SlidingHorn> masaccio: do you have an ubuntu support request?
[19:34] <masaccio> no
[19:34] <SlidingHorn> !pt | masaccio :)
[19:34] <masaccio> I don't understand you
[19:35] <thepeter> masaccio: SlidingHorn was thinking that you speak spanish
[19:35] <SlidingHorn> thepeter: masaccio: well, portuguese, but yeah...
[19:35] <daftykins> english only in here, thanks
[19:36] <masaccio> kmon
[19:36] <thepeter> SlidingHorn: uhm sorry :)
[19:36] <thepeter> daftykins: aye aye sir :P
[19:36] <BlueProtoman> I'm about to nuke my PC and reinstall both Windows and Linux.  However, this time I want a common partition shared between them for data that's not OS-specific (like my music, my code, my DropBox contents, etc.).  Which file system should I use?
[19:37] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: i'd go either NTFS or exFAT
[19:37] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Why one or the other?
[19:37] <platnorm> hello
[19:37] <SlidingHorn> BlueProtoman: what daftykins said...here's more info: http://askubuntu.com/questions/239320/which-file-system-do-i-select-for-sharing-files-between-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12
[19:38] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: no huge edge to one over the other, exFAT will require additional packages be installed in Ubuntu... nothing much else to say
[19:38] <akik> is exfat support native?
[19:38] <akik> i mean non-fuse
[19:39] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Well, I gotta be mindful of Windows, too, right?
[19:39] <platnorm> exit
[19:39] <daftykins> BlueProtoman: which reads exFAT and NTFS just fine
[19:39] <daftykins> hence me suggesting them
[19:39] <masaccio> OOOOhhhh ola chcos
[19:39] <artois> akik: not fuse
[19:39] <artois> exfat is the unicorn-est fat
[19:39] <daftykins> masaccio: support only in here, nonsensical blabbering and chat in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks.
[19:40] <akik> i think i'll stick with ntfs
[19:40] <JeDa> masaccio: Español en #Ubuntu-es - off-topic en #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:40] <zero_> holaaa!!!!
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> !es | zero_
[19:43] <Obviosly> HEy which is faster exfat or NTFS
[19:44] <Obviosly> anyon?
[19:44] <Obviosly> which is faster EXFAT or NTFS?
[19:44] <^Magizian^> Cheap HydroAtomic Power       http://magizian.net
[19:44] <TJ-> Obviosly: neither. they don't move
[19:44] <Obviosly> TJ the answer is Ur MOMFAT is faster
[19:45] <artois> Obviosly: for flash, probably fat
[19:45] <artois> if it's a usb stick, just use plain fat until you actually have a reason to have a file greater than 4GB
[19:45] <Obviosly> Do you have any reason to backup that ..statement artois?
[19:45] <artois> Obviosly: sure
[19:46] <Obviosly> can you tell me please sir?
[19:46] <SlidingHorn> !ot | Everyone
[19:46] <artois> Obviosly: https://www.google.com/search?q=fat%20ntfs%20faster%20flash moreover, easily tested
[19:46] <Obviosly> Can i  create a filesystem on my own? which is fastest in USB?
[19:47] <Broblem> Obviosly
[19:47] <Obviosly> You have a broblem?
[19:47] <Broblem> Obviosly
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> Broblem, Obviosly stop that please
[19:48] <Obviosly> we both same ahahahah
[19:48] <Broblem> its me HAHAHAHAH
[19:48] <Broblem> kiwi irc and freenode irc
[19:48] <SlidingHorn> Everyone:  Please cut the off-topic banter.   Take chat elsewhere please.
[19:52] <Broblem> im getting support from obvios;y
[19:52] <mJimmer> Hello there I am trying to make a websocket app connection and I keep on getting the error  failed: Error in connection establishment: net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED    Not sure how to make sure that I can test ports
[19:52] <SlidingHorn> same exact IP?  Obviosly Broblem
[19:52] <Obviosly> LOLOL
[19:52] <phunyguy> that fixes both.
[19:52] <SlidingHorn> Thanks :)
[19:52] <Paaltomo> yay
[19:53] <Silvering> Hi everyone! I'm trying to install swift language on my ubuntu 15.10. My problem is that I receive this error message after installing swift and trying to see the version number : "cannot execute binary file : Exec format error." Any idea?
[19:54] <mJimmer> I run netsat -auntp and it is not showing the network as open
[19:54] <mJimmer> or the port I should say
[19:54] <mJimmer> How do I open up ports ?  like say port 2020
[19:54] <BlueProtoman> daftykins: Thanks!
[19:54] <popey> mJimmer, open the port to what?
[19:54] <daftykins> Silvering: run "file" on the binary in question and see what the output is
[19:55] <SlidingHorn> mJimmer: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj886yOjdfJAhWDWCYKHQffAP4QFggcMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Fcommunity%2FIptablesHowTo&usg=AFQjCNFFTs0Rz136RmZcfTU9GHfRiotKBQ&sig2=OL1pzVLy9U_IoMCzCvWHfA&bvm=bv.109910813,d.eWE
[19:55] <SlidingHorn> oops  mJimmer :  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[19:55] <mJimmer> popey:  so I have a websocket app that is trying to connect to a different server and it just keeps on saying that that connection is refused.  I looked at the other server and the ports are open and able to talk from other mchines just not from Ubuntu server
[19:56] <Silvering> daftykins: I'm just trying to do : swift -version.
[19:56] <daftykins> Silvering: yes i know - and i'm saying to run 'file' on the swift binary you're executing.
[19:56] <daftykins> "which swift" will give its' path
[19:57] <popey> Silvering, you should see something like this -> swift: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
[19:58] <Silvering> which swift returns : /home/ubuntu/Desktop/swift-2.2-SNAPSHOT-2015-12-01-b-ubuntu15.10/urs/bin//swift
[19:58] <nolsen_> Does anyone know how to change the default greeting from unity to cinnamon?
[19:58] <popey> no, that's ls, you want "file"
[19:58] <popey> like this:-
[19:58] <popey> alan@deep-thought:~/Downloads/sw/swift-2.2-SNAPSHOT-2015-12-01-b-ubuntu15.10/usr/bin$ file swift
[19:58] <popey> swift: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> swift is in repos also right
[19:59] <popey> unlikely
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> !info swift
[19:59] <popey> not the same thin
[19:59] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[19:59] <popey> thing
[19:59] <Bassem> i have two part ions c:\ windows 7 and d:\ empty, im trying to install Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS and it give me this message in the installing "this computer has no detected operating system"
[20:00] <mJimmer> nolsen_:  look at dpkg-reconfigure <name of service >   or update-alternitives --configure
[20:00] <mJimmer> nolsen_: not sure what the default for lightdm is
[20:01] <mJimmer> nolsen_:  like if I was using gdm3 and I wanted to use sddm  I would do something like   sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3
[20:01] <Silvering> ok so 'file' returns ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, not stripped
[20:01] <popey> Silvering, is this a 32-bit or 64-bit install of ubuntu?
[20:01] <Silvering> 32bits
[20:01] <popey> Silvering, with a username like "ubuntu" it looks like you're on a live iso?
[20:01] <popey> thats why!
[20:01] <nolsen_> mJimmer: That doesn't help me.
[20:02] <21WAAF051> Hello guys, any idea why on my Thinkpad T410, *buntu 15.10 fresh install will sometimes boot fine, other times my screen will get stuck at black ( no cursor or anything shown ).  So I need to download the 32bits package of swift ?
[20:02] <nolsen_> I'm not running that command.
[20:03] <popey> Silvering, or the 64-bit version of ubuntu, yeah
[20:03] <popey> i dont think there is a 32-bit build of swift
[20:03] <mJimmer> nolsen_:  why dont you google it.  or try sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[20:03] <Bassem> im trying to install Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS on partion D: and it give me this message in the installing "this computer has no detected operating system"
[20:03] <nolsen_> Does anyone know how to change the default greeting from unity to cinnamon?
[20:03] <Silvering> popey : Right, I just checked
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: tried LTS also?
[20:04] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: I wanted to use the latest version.
[20:04] <21WAAF051> I will try it as well, but interested in using the latest version.
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: wich graphics card chipset?
[20:04] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: command to check is?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: sudo lshw -C video
[20:05] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: one moment
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: your windows still boots?
[20:06] <Bassem> yes it dos
[20:06] <Bassem> it's the only operating system on my pc now
[20:06] <Bassem> im using ubuntu from usb
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: but you say partition d was empty right
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: windows on c?
[20:07] <davidleon> i'm trying to compress a folder of jpg files into webp files. however the cwebp program doesn't support * identifier
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Bassem
[20:07] <Abe> Bassem: you have to create a dual-boot partition, you can find lots of information about that on the Internet
[20:08] <Bassem> lotuspsychje, yes on c and i want to install ubuntu on empty d partion
[20:08] <davidleon> I tried using pipe. But pipe doesn't transfer the filename as one argument. because of the file names containing space.
[20:08] <davidleon> btw, any bultin support of webp to ubuntu
[20:08] <SlidingHorn> nolsen_: you've already installed cinnamon, I assume?  You should be able to select if from your session options when you log in
[20:09] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: Nvidia GT218M [NVS 3100M]
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> !info webp | davidleon
[20:09] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: really strange how it will boot up just fine some times, then it will get stuck on black other times!
[20:09] <davidleon> lotuspsychje: i know this pack and installed it
[20:10] <nolsen> Does anyone know how to change the default greeting from unity to cinnamon?
[20:10] <davidleon> lotuspsychje: the issue is all other seems not supporting webp. e.g. image viwer or file manager
[20:10] <davidleon> and i need a smart one-line script to handle the cwebp program
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: can you still check wich driver in use?
[20:11] <__null> f
[20:11] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: nouveau
[20:11] <davidleon> i wish cwebp *.jpg -o *.webp would work
[20:11] <davidleon> but it doesn't
[20:11] <Bassem> it dosnt give much help.. it dos not tell what to do when i get my message this computer have no operating system
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: try an nvidia driver from additional drivers section
[20:11] <mJimmer> Ok So I have opened up the incomming commection and still getting the same error that it can not connect to that ws:XXX.XXX.X.X:1234
[20:11] <davidleon> for f in *.jpg;do echo "cwebp -q 95 \""$f"\" -o \"`echo "$f" | sed -r 's/([^\.]*)\.jpg/\1\.webp/g' `\"";done
[20:12] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: Could it driver issue? Strange because it works some time, like right now, it booted up fine. If I go and reboot, most likely will get stuck on black screen after BIOS screen flash up
[20:12] <davidleon> this is the command i've got
[20:12] <davidleon> but it doesn't support file name containing spaces
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: can you check additional drivers, wich drivers show up for your system?
[20:12] <Ben64> mJimmer: what are you trying to do
[20:12] <davidleon> \""$f\" doesn't help to make the filename into one argument
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> davidleon: please easy on the enter button, best to re-ask your main issue once in a while here
[20:13] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: I selected and applied Nvidia binary driver 340.96 340 updates on the driver list
[20:13] <21WAAF051> waiting to apply and reboot
[20:13] <21WAAF051> thanks
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: do you have the 340 also, (not updates)
[20:13] <mJimmer> Ben64:  I have a websocket server that is on a machine on my localnet.   I have a bridged VM running on this net with LAMP  I want to make a webapp that conencts to my Qt/C++ websocket server and what not.
[20:14] <21WAAF051> ah yes
[20:14] <davidleon> for f in *.jpg;do cwebp -q 95 "$f" -o `echo "$f" | sed -r 's/([^\.]*)\.jpg/\1\.webp/g' `;done  <-- this one doesn't support file name containing spaces.
[20:14] <21WAAF051> (Recommended driver)
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: try the 340 yes
[20:14] <azizLIGHT> whats steams problem? why cant i close it to tray? it always minimizes
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> !steam | azizLIGHT
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: are you using the 358 driver?
[20:14] <azizLIGHT> im using.... lemme see
[20:15] <azizLIGHT> how do i check
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: additional drivers section
[20:15] <Ben64> mJimmer: so its a networking problem?
[20:15] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: looks like im using 352
[20:15] <mJimmer> Ben64:  and I keep on getting the error  WebSocket connection to 'ws://XXX.XXX.X.X:1234' failed: Error in connection establishment: net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[20:16] <21WAAF051> lotuspsychje: rebooted, stuck on black again ( no cursor or anything, just black screen )
[20:16] <21WAAF051> ugh
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: can you try a previous perhaps, i heard there are known issues on several drivers and steam
[20:16] <mJimmer> Ben64:  but the ports are open in iptables and also on remote machine (which is on local)
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: try 14.04.3 mate
[20:16] <Ben64> mJimmer: yep, sounds like networking issue. connection refused = port isn't open ... maybe try ##networking
[20:16] <ioria> mJimmer, maybe a ssl certificate issue ....
[20:16] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: how do i know which of these belongs to a ppa or which of those belongs to the other ppa (xorg-edgers vs nvidia graphics-drivers)
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> 21WAAF051: or a nomodeset on 15.04
[20:17] <mJimmer> ioria:  it is not wss it is ws
[20:17] <mJimmer> meaning that it is not using ssl
[20:17] <azizLIGHT> lotuspsychje: http://i.imgur.com/NfDOHfG.png
[20:17] <mJimmer> but I could I guess but I do not think that that is a issue
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: we dont support ppa's here mate, try a previous driver perhaps and retest steam
[20:18] <azizLIGHT> ok
[20:18] <Bassem> ubuntu can't detect my windows 7
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: or ask the #steam or #gamingonlinux channel for known issues with steam
[20:18] <azizLIGHT> thanks
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: those guys are pretty up to date
[20:18] <Bassem> i want to install it but it says this this computer currently has no detected operating systems ubuntu
[20:21] <BluesKaj> Bassem, open a terminal and do , sudo update-grub
[20:22] <Bassem> BluesKaj, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'
[20:23] <BluesKaj> Bassem, are you on live-media ubuntu, like a usb or cd ?
[20:24] <Bassem> BluesKaj, yes i want to install it
[20:24] <TJ-> BluesKaj: Bassem is currently running the Ubuntu installer, but it is not discovering the already-installed Windows 7, so no way to proceed with a dula-boot isntall
[20:24] <TJ-> Bassem: run "sudo os-prober" see what it tells you
[20:24] <Bassem> online it says he easiest way to fix the problem is to run fixparts, which comes with Ubuntu in the gdisk package
[20:24] <Bassem> is this right?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> so he has no ext4 parttition to install ubuntu
[20:25] <Bassem> TJ-, it says nothing
[20:25] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, well that is the same tool the installer uses to discover existing OSs, so that explains why
[20:26] <davemwi> hello. longtime Fedora user here, trying out Ubuntu. I'm having trouble with my CD-ROM/DVD drive being recognized. The only way I've been able to find a hint of the drive is with dmesg, but I dont' know where to go from here.
[20:26] <TJ-> Bassem: so, now let's find out what is on the system. do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit", then do "pastebinit <( sudo parted -l )" and tell us the URL of the pastebin it gives you
[20:27] <TJ-> davemwi: usually there's a symlink to such devices as /dev/dvd, /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, /dev/sr0 and similar
[20:28] <davemwi> TJ-: yep, not seeing anything like that...
[20:28] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Bassem If this is a UEFI machine, and attempting to boot ubuntu  UEFI with Windows installed leagcy, would this be the result "  currently has no detected operating systems " ?
[20:28] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977629/
[20:28] <Bassem> Bassem, so what can i do?
[20:29] <Bassem> Bassem, the motherboard is asrock z68 pro 3
[20:29] <BluesKaj> Bassem, how old is this pc?
[20:29] <ioria> davemwi, sudo lshw -C disk
[20:29] <Bassem> BluesKaj, its new one
[20:29] <davemwi> ioria: USB and SCSI and then the output...should I send to pastebin
[20:29] <Gaz_> I'm running ubuntu server and both my root and boot partitions are full so I booted ubuntu live and used gparted to resize the root partition, applied the change and checked it showed the new size. When i boot back into ubuntu server the login screen is still telling me the old size, what am i missing to resize the partitions?
[20:29] <ioria> davemwi, yep
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> Gaz_: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you better
[20:30] <BluesKaj> Bassem, did you wipe the hdd to install W7?
[20:30] <vladimir_tango> Hello everyone! i am from Apatity
[20:30] <Gaz_> ok thanks
[20:31] <Bassem> BluesKaj, no just format the c: partition
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> !ru | vladimir_tango
[20:31] <TJ-> Bassem: now do "pastebinit <( sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda )"
[20:32] <Bassem> i have 3 partitions c = 100 Gb "windows , d = 100 Gb empty, e= 800 which have all my data
[20:32] <vladimir_tango> i use samsunglapton and ubuntu
[20:33] <vladimir_tango> can i install usb-bluetooth ? and how?
[20:33] <Bassem> WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.
[20:33] <Bassem> Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | vladimir_tango
[20:33] <davemwi> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977785/
[20:34] <vladimir_tango> help
[20:35] <ioria> davemwi, could be a   pin problem ( set to Slave , try Master) or unlikely, not supported ...
[20:36] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977838/
[20:36] <davemwi> ioria: I think the pin is the only thing I have left to check...
[20:36] <ioria> davemwi, lsblk
[20:37] <davemwi> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977853/
[20:37] <Abe> Bassem: go into live cd and install gparted, you could do your partitioning yourself, but be careful
[20:37] <ioria> davemwi, usually is sr0 ...
[20:38] <davemwi> ioria: yeah, well, I think the pin is the only thing I can do now.
[20:38] <Red_Phionix> yo
[20:41] <mJimmer> NVM I was able to get it to work.  Had to set the server and off <IP_ADDRESS> to its ip and change the client webapp to the servers hostname.  Odd but works
[20:42] <Bassem> Abe, its already partitioned
[20:43] <TJ-> Bassem: that looks good (I notice not all the disk space is used). Now do "pastebinit <( sudo blkid /dev/sda* )"
[20:44] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978017/
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: make your life easy and install ubuntu single, loose win once and for good :p
[20:51] <jesuslovesyouthi> Does anyone think that a git repo could be used in connection with apt package manager? Specifically, I'm wondering if there is an easy way to say up to date with this: https://necolas.github.io/normalize.css/    I would prefer not to use an additional package manager beyond what I have already with ubuntu and I don't know if the ones shown on that web page are for apt or not.
[20:51] <Bassem> lotuspsychje, not yet im still new to ubuntu
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: ubuntu has everything you need mate
[20:52] <Bassem> lotuspsychje, thats why i need to try it first
[20:52] <Bassem> sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[20:52] <Bassem> FixParts 0.8.8
[20:52] <Bassem> Loading MBR data from /dev/sda
[20:52] <Bassem> NOTICE: GPT signatures detected on the disk, but no 0xEE protective partition!
[20:52] <Bassem> The GPT signatures are probably left over from a previous partition table.
[20:52] <Bassem> Do you want to delete them (if you answer 'Y', this will happen
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> Bassem: virtual machine
[20:52] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, so that basically confirms the 3 partitions are NTFS, but as we saw earlier os-prober cannot detect the installed OS. That suggests there's something unusual in the layout of the Windows file-systems, since os-prober looks for very specific files to be present to classify a file-system as containing an operating system
[20:53] <ioria> Bassem, you have Win 7 on gpt ?  have you an EFI mb ?
[20:53] <jesuslovesyouthi> specifically, what I'm after is for it to be pulled in with updates whenever I do an apt-get update / upgrade
[20:53] <Bassem> ioria, yes
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> jesuslovesyouthi: well adding ppa's that wont work
[20:54] <ioria> Bassem, and did you start ubuntu media with the efi label ?
[20:54] <Bassem> ioria, yes
[20:55] <ioria> Bassem, can you boot the livecd ?
[20:56] <Bassem> ioria, im on live usb
[20:56] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978292/
[20:56] <ioria> Bassem, sudo parted -l
[20:57] <TJ-> ioria: we have that already at http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977629/
[20:57] <ioria> Bassem, fixparts should do the job
[20:57] <TJ-> ioria: fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13977838/
[20:57] <TJ-> ioria: blkid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978017/
[20:58] <TJ-> ioria: the basic issue is os-prober doesn't find the signs of a Windows OS in the NTFS partitions
[20:58] <ioria> TJ- ok....
[20:58] <TJ-> Bassem: for now, say "NO" to fixing the partitions until we know precisely what is going on
[20:58] <Bassem> TJ-, ok im waiting for you
[20:58] <TJ-> Bassem: "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/sda{1,2,3}"
[20:59] <TJ-> Bassem: "for p in 1 2 3; do sudo mount /dev/sda${p} /mnt/sda${p}; done"
[21:00] <BluesKaj> well, i suppose if dparted was used to create an ext4 partition ubiquity will find it if manual partitioning is used
[21:00] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978376/
[21:00] <BluesKaj> gparted rather
[21:01] <jesuslovesyouthi> Is there any add on for apt that extends its capability to become a package manager for git? Or is there a package manager for git? Or an add on to git that makes it function like a package manager?
[21:01] <Bassem> TJ-, didnt get the second step
[21:01] <BluesKaj> I never let ubiquity do any auto partitioning
[21:01] <TJ-> Bassem: you mean it reported an error, or you missed out doing it?
[21:01] <Jack3k3> Hi Im having some issues with dual screens. Firstly, its setting the wrong one as the primary monitor, which is easy to change by runnign the xrandr command however once I do so I have some weird behavior
[21:02] <Jack3k3> Example matlab is open on primary monitor, if I right click in matlab, the right click menu opens on the secondary monitor always
[21:02] <Bassem> TJ-,  i typed sudo parted -l and thats what i got
[21:02] <Jack3k3> Any ideas how to fix this? I'm assuming theres some confusion between the primray/secondary monitor
[21:02] <TJ->  Bassem OK, don't worry about the partition table for now, what we want to know about is what is in those file-systems
[21:02] <Bassem> TJ-,  ok im with you
[21:03] <TJ-> Bassem: if you've done those previous 2 steps, now do "for p in 1 2 3; do ls -latr /mnt/sda${p}/ ; done"
[21:03] <Bassem> TJ-,  now i did sudo mkdir -p /mnt/sda{1,2,3}
[21:03] <Bassem> what next
[21:03] <TJ-> Bassem: "for p in 1 2 3; do sudo mount /dev/sda${p} /mnt/sda${p}; done"
[21:03] <Oregon_Mike> hey all
[21:04] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | Jack3k3 try this?
[21:04] <TJ-> Bassem: then do  "pastebinit <( for p in 1 2 3; do ls -latr /mnt/sda${p}/ ; done )"
[21:04] <Bassem> TJ-, sudo mount /dev/sda${p} /mnt/sda${p}
[21:04] <Bassem> mount: mount point /mnt/sda does not exist
[21:04] <Oregon_Mike> need to connect my ps3 for blue ray movie to line in on pc...anyway to do this in ubuntu mate?
[21:04] <Oregon_Mike> ubuntu seems to see the line in but I can't hear the audio?
[21:04] <TJ-> Bassem: you need to execute the entire commands in one line - type, or preferably copy/paste, everything inside the double  quote marks
[21:06] <belovedk_> Oregon_Mike: you mean line in like microphone input?
[21:07] <Jack3k3> Hmm Lotuspsychje, no luck with that
[21:07] <Jack3k3> I do seem to notice that the problem only is occuring the matlab
[21:07] <Jack3k3> all other right click menus show up on the correct screen
[21:07] <Oregon_Mike> yeah sorta
[21:07] <Oregon_Mike> you know how you have the line in on sound card
[21:07] <Oregon_Mike> i have done it way in the past with win 8
[21:08] <Oregon_Mike> just seeing if i can line in with ubuntu
[21:08] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978550/
[21:08] <belovedk_> Ahh, you have to monitor it then. It won't just play on the computer
[21:09] <belovedk_> You can use pulseaudio to monitor it or jack
[21:09] <TJ-> Bassem: ahhh, something else may have those open. can you do "pastebinit <( mount )"
[21:10] <happyfr0gg> Where can I go to learn about the minimum hardware requirements for Ubuntu 16.04?
[21:10] <jesuslovesyouthi> does apt have anything like an add on or a module? Is it possible to code something to extend apt's functionality?
[21:10] <lotuspsychje> happyfr0gg: #ubuntu+1 for xenial
[21:10] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978605/
[21:11] <happyfr0gg> lotuspsychje - Is that a channel?
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> happyfr0gg: yes sir
[21:11] <happyfr0gg> lotuspsychje - okay, thanks.
[21:11] <chaence> I have a general question xP
[21:11] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, so sda1 and sda3 have been auto-mounted by the udisks daemon. sda2 we have mounted ourselves, so now we can check out their contents. New command to follow.
[21:11] <lotuspsychje> chaence: shoot if its ubuntu related
[21:12] <Bassem> TJ-, ok what to do
[21:12] <TJ-> Bassem: "pastebinit <( ls -latr /media/ubuntu/C0CE687FCE686F98/ /mnt/sda2/ /media/ubuntu/086D1D34086D1D34/ )"
[21:12] <chaence> Okay, so, I really really want to get rid of my Windows OS. It's constantly buggy and Ubuntu seems like the BEST option. I am very skilled in CMD & other programming platforms but I want a way to install Ubuntu x64 without a CD/USB.
[21:13] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978647/
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> !usb | chaence
[21:13] <Bassem> TJ-,  its my windows 7 partition
[21:13] <lotuspsychje> chaence: or grub iso install, interested?
[21:13] <nichlas> chaence: without USB?
[21:14] <chaence> Yeah. If worst comes to worst I'll buy a CD from ubuntu
[21:14] <OerHeks> chaence, without usb or dvd or cfcard, isoboot only works if you have grub installed already
[21:14] <chaence> I'll try grub iso
[21:14] <Jack3k3> Is there a way to force primary monitor in Metacity?
[21:14] <Oregon_Mike> maybe go in the mic?
[21:14] <Oregon_Mike> hmm
[21:14] <TJ-> Bassem: right, so /dev/sda3 looks like a separate DATA file-system for the user home directory, /dev/sda1 looks like the OS file-system, and /dev/sda2 looks... empty :)
[21:14] <lotuspsychje> chaence: more info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:15] <Bassem> yes my d:\ partition is empty and its 100 GB
[21:15] <chaence> lotuspsychje: thank you! before installing should i format my C:\ drive if I want to remove windows completely?
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> chaence: this method only works with grub right
[21:16] <TJ-> Bassem: give me a couple of minutes to read the source-code of os-prober - I've forgotten what it looks for specifically to tell if an OS exists
[21:16] <chaence> o yea
[21:16] <Bassem> tk ok take your time will wait for you
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> chaence: and you dont need to format, ubuntu setup will do that for you
[21:16] <Bassem> TJ-, ok take your time will wait for you
[21:17] <chaence> okay
[21:18] <lotuspsychje> chaence: any reason you dont want usb?
[21:18] <belovedk_> Oregon_Mike: JACK is the best at that job,  but it can get complicated trying to install it.
[21:18] <OerHeks> chaence, isoboot only works if you have grub installed already
[21:18] <chaence> lotuspsychje: I'd prefer not to use USB as right now I'm not home & I need a simple solution, but if all else fails I have a USB ready
[21:19] <chaence> OerHeks: do I install grub from the command line?
[21:19] <OerHeks> ..lets do it the hard way :-D
[21:19] <belovedk_> If you want to try, look Cadence
[21:19] <TJ-> Bassem: in case you want to follow along, the os-prober shell script that recognises Windows is at /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/20microsoft
[21:19] <OerHeks> ha ha .. no
[21:19] <lotuspsychje> chaence: you have only windows right now?
[21:19] <chaence> yes
[21:19] <chaence> i want everything gone
[21:19] <chaence> just to start over
[21:19] <Bassem> TJ-, so
[21:19] <lotuspsychje> chaence: do it the usb way mate
[21:19] <TheRinger> ^^^]\
[21:20] <TheRinger> winblows
[21:20] <belovedk_> You can first try pulseaudio. pactl load- module module- loopback
[21:20] <chaence> i guess i have no choice xP
[21:20] <Bassem> TJ-, what should i do
[21:20] <chaence> the only sd i have with my atm is a crappy 1gb sandisk and i tried the mini.iso but windows REFUSES to boot from it
[21:20] <chaence> so i'll wait til i get home
[21:21] <lotuspsychje> chaence: mini isnt very reccomended for regular use
[21:21] <Oregon_Mike> belovedk: jack? is that an app in the software center?
[21:21] <chaence> yeah x(
[21:22] <belovedk_> It's an audio server. Yes
[21:22] <lotuspsychje> chaence: another hardway is to use (not reccomended wubi) on 12.04 and then install the grub to iso method with 14.04
[21:22] <davemwi> hello, can anyone help me try to get my cd/dvd drive recognized? I just checked the pins as I've read a lot about needing to switch it from 'slave' to 'master' but this is a laptop and that pin if it exists, is buried somewhere obscure. Isn't there anything that I can do? Seems so wrong that the drive can be used to setup Ubuntu, but after that I can't use it.
[21:23] <daftykins> davemwi: if it worked to install, and the BIOS recognises it, it doesn't need any channel selection changing - also this was only for old PATA (IDE) drives, not more modern SATA ones made in the last many years
[21:23] <Bassem> TJ-, ??
[21:23] <chaence> sigh
[21:23] <chaence> okay.
[21:24] <SchrodingersScat> Oregon_Mike: yes, with some setup you can use the jack controls to patch input to output via software
[21:24] <davemwi> daftykins: then maybe there's something I can do to get it to recognize the drive? I've tried several commands at the shell and the only one that ever revealed anything was dmesg
[21:24] <daftykins> Bassem: be patient.
[21:24] <chaence> i guess in the mean time i can use a VM software and run the iso from there
[21:24] <chaence> to hold me over
[21:24] <daftykins> davemwi: yeah, it detects the drive fine i assume? (you can pastebin dmesg and link me)
[21:25] <Andy_> hi
[21:25] <Andy_> i'm using Lubuntu..does it support OpenOffice?
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> andyfied: better try libreoffice
[21:25] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, it looks as if os-prober will be writing debug log entries to /var/log/syslog. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[21:25] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: try libreoffice
[21:26] <Guest35612> what is libreoffice? is is a replacement of openoffice?
[21:26] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978918/
[21:26] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice | Guest35612
[21:26] <davemwi> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13978931/
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: not a replacement, an alternative
[21:28] <Guest35612> which one is better?
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: in my opinion id go for libreoffice
[21:28] <daftykins> davemwi: so what discs have you tested in there?
[21:29] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, as Bashing-om suggested much earlier, the cause is confirmed in that log: "20microsoft: debug: Skipping legacy bootloaders on UEFI system" - it means that on that system Windows is booting in Legacy/BIOS mode, but you've booted the Ubuntu installer in UEFI mode
[21:29] <davemwi> daftykins: well, so far just a blank cd-rw...I can try another one.
[21:29] <Guest35612> how do i get libreoffice in lubuntu?
[21:29] <Bassem> TJ-, so what to do
[21:29] <daftykins> davemwi: put back in the ubuntu disc so you can see the data mounted?
[21:29] <TJ-> Bassem: so the obvious - although arguably not the best - solution is to reboot and ensure the system boots the installer in Legacy/BIOS mode too
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[21:30] <Bassem> TJ-,  how can i do that?
[21:30] <davemwi> daftykins: Hmmpph! Just put another one in, and everything looks fine...I'll be...
[21:30] <Bassem> TJ-,  my motherboard is asrock z68 pro 3
[21:30] <TJ-> Bassem: doing that will mean the Linux GRUB bootloader will replace the Windows boot-strap code that is currently in sector 0 of the disk. I'd suggest we take a back-up of that sector and put it somewhere safe so its easy to restore if things go wrong
[21:31] <Guest35612> can i use the user interface to get it instead of typing in the command? sorry, i'm a newbie to linux
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: you can use debi on lubuntu also yes
[21:31] <Bassem> TJ-, how can i take backup of that sector?
[21:31] <daftykins> davemwi: mmm a RW media with no file system would likely do absolutely nothing :)
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: or type sudo apt-get install libreoffice (from a terminal)
[21:31] <TJ-> Bassem: try this: "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/ubuntu/C0CE687FCE686F98/mbr-sector.bin bs=512 count=1"
[21:32] <Guest35612> what is debi please?
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest35612: try software center on lubuntu
[21:32] <Bassem> TJ-,  done
[21:32] <Bassem> TJ-, so what to do now
[21:32] <davemwi> daftykins: yeah...i get that. I was trying to burn some files to a blank one though, and brasero was only giving me the option to burn it to an iso image...not to the drive...
[21:32] <TJ-> Bassem: check the file is there: "ls -l /media/ubuntu/C0CE687FCE686F98/*.bin" and is 512 bytes in size
[21:33] <Guest35612> ok thanks
[21:33] <daftykins> davemwi: you wanted a copy-paste kind of session on there?
[21:33] <Bassem> TJ-, -rw------- 1 ubuntu ubuntu 512 Dec 12 21:32 /media/ubuntu/C0CE687FCE686F98/mbr-sector.bin
[21:34] <Bassem> TJ-, where it been copied to?
[21:34] <TJ-> Bassem: now reboot, and at the PC's manual boot menu, be careful to identify and select the option that will boot the USB installer in Legacy/BIOS mode, not EFI mode. How you identify that is motherboard-dependent, so you'll have to use your smarts to figure out which boot menu entry is correct.
[21:34] <TJ-> Bassem: it's in the root directory of the Windows 7 OS file-system
[21:35] <davemwi> daftykins: there was 'Audio Project' and I went through that process, built the contents, and then 'Burn' only gave me the option to burn to an iso file...let me try again
[21:36] <Oregon_Mike> in software center, is it called Jack Mixer?
[21:36] <davemwi> daftykins: ok...I think I see what happened. I put the disk in after Brasero was opened. This time I did it the other way around...now I can burn to disk :) lol
[21:36] <daftykins> doh!
[21:37] <ashic> trying to get ubuntu 15.10 host running on new dell precision 5510. kernel recognizes synaptics touchpad, it shows up in xinput list, ans is enabled in settings > mouse and touchpad. however no touches, clicks, etc. are registering in ubuntu. any ideas?
[21:37] <TJ-> ashic: sounds like a common issue, I think we've had a couple of people this last week or so with similar problems
[21:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info qjackctl | Oregon_Mike If I recall correctly, this package is helpful.
[21:40] <nico103> hi
[21:40] <belovedk_> Oregon_Mike: you can use this also kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Repositories to install cadence, it gives you good graphic control.. You can  connect to any input to any output
[21:40] <nico103> I'm trying to resize a vbox virtual disk holding / for an Ubuntu 14.04 system
[21:40] <nico103> so I've resized the disk in VBox
[21:40] <ashic> TJ: :( was hoping to finally go linux only with the new machine...no trackpad makes it tough.
[21:41] <nico103> but I can't resize / without resizing the partition, and I can't do that without moving the swap partition, which is inside an extended partition
[21:41] <nico103> the extended partition is two blocks larger than the swap partition
[21:41] <belovedk_> Just follow the instructions there to add the ppa, then sudo apt-get install cadence
[21:41] <nico103> gparted doesn't seem to be that smart
[21:42] <nico103> so...  should I just delete that extended partition?  does it hold any boot artifacts?
[21:42] <Bassem> TJ-, ok i'll give it a try
[21:42] <TJ-> ashic: I'm not sure what solution those users found; someone else here may have taken note
[21:43] <ashic> TJ: fingers crossed...
[21:43] <TJ-> ashic: you could use some test tools to see if raw events are being received from the device, but ignored by the X  server event system
[21:46] <TJ-> ashic: if you can identify which device it is, use "sudo evtest /dev/input/eventX" to test it where 'X' is the number of the correct node in /dev/input/event*
[21:46] <ashic> TJ: xinput test 15 (15 is the device id) shows no events when touchpad is used
[21:47] <TJ-> ashic: right, so try evtest, find out if there are any events
[21:48] <invapid2> is there anyway to get a package deleted on ubuntu's launchpad
[21:48] <invapid2> (if it's completely out of date, so people don't download it)
[21:48] <Ben64> what package
[21:49] <TJ-> ashic: the other user 'limp' (I found their issue in my logs from 5th Dec) had multiple event* devices for the same physical device. In the /var/log/Xorg.0.log it said something like 'Ignoring duplicate input device' - it had jsut used the 1st input it found, rather than the input that delivered the events
[21:49] <invapid2> hackrf - but I've only confirmed it's bad on ubuntu 14 LTS
[21:49] <TJ-> ashic: I think the solution was a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf entry for the input device
[21:49] <invapid2> at least for 14 LTS - the correct thing to do right now is install from source
[21:49] <Ben64> invapid2: how is it bad, where is it from, are you the maintainer
[21:50] <ashic> TJ: hmm...checking after i get evtest running. seems like  evtest /dev/input/event15 shows some hdmi stuff, while xinput list has touchpad as 15. so might well be the cause.
[21:51] <ashic> TJ: Interesting...log shows: [    63.032] (--) synaptics: DLL06E5:01 06CB:7A13 UNKNOWN: touchpad found [    63.033] (--) synaptics: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: touchpad found
[21:51] <TJ-> ashic: I noticed the eventX numbers can be different to the device ID, so dont' get caught out
[21:52] <TJ-> ashic: right, so that suggests its USB-connect with device ID 06CB:7A13
[21:52] <ashic> TJ: Seems touchpad is registered twice...one as Unknown and once as Synaptics
[21:52] <TJ-> ashic: right, this sounds very like what I was describing. check the Xorg.0.log for those 'duplicate ignored' messages
[21:53] <Guest17422> So I'm trying to add a mail account through the ubuntu online accounts thing. Can I specify what port to connect to SMTP over?
[21:56] <invapid2> Ben64: just submitted a bug report for it on launchpad, perhaps someone with proper permissions would remove it
[21:56] <invapid2> don't really understand the package system
[21:58] <stillfaraway12> how to change my Nick password if i forgot it ??
[22:00] <stillfaraway12> Help please !
[22:00] <stillfaraway12> i need to reset my pass
[22:02] <TJ-> stillfaraway12: do /msg nickserv sendpass <nickname>
[22:03] <Bassem> TJ-, ok when i go to the boot meny i get 3 option 1- sata and my harddisk, 2- usb and my usbdrive, 3- uefi :usb  so when i select the second choice i get blank screen and white dash only keep glowing and nothing else
[22:04] <ashic__> TJ: evtest is showing no events from touchpad (even with Unknown disabled)
[22:04] <stillfaraway12> TJ- ; it says " stillfaraway12 is not registered.
[22:05] <nico103> hmmm, never mind
[22:05] <nico103> I think i got it
[22:05] <stillfaraway12> stillfaraway12 ; can i send it to my email ?
[22:05] <stillfaraway12> TJ-*
[22:05] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, so option 2 is the correct one. the 'white dash' sounds like the ISO image hasn't been loaded correctly, or doesn't contain the correct Legacy/BIOS bootstrap code. How did you write the ISO to the USB ?
[22:05] <lotuspsychje> stillfaraway12: join #freenode for such issues
[22:06] <TJ-> stillfaraway12: you'd best ask in #freenode for those kinds of network issues
[22:06] <stillfaraway12> Ok
[22:06] <Bassem> TJ-, i download the iso from ubuntu site and use and application in it's tutorial on how to make usb bootable
[22:07] <staticsn0w> Bassem what os are you on
[22:07] <staticsn0w> Win Mac or something else
[22:07] <Bassem> staticsn0w, now i run uefi:usb to try ubuntu
[22:07] <staticsn0w> Bassem tell me the os you have installed on your pc
[22:08] <Bassem> staticsn0w, windows 7
[22:08] <TJ-> Bassem: did you use a Window 7 tool to write the ISO to the USB device?
[22:08] <Bassem> TJ-, i used that application Universal USB Installer
[22:09] <staticsn0w> Bassem ok, you arent a mac user, good :D
[22:09] <staticsn0w> all you have to do is download unetbootin and follow the instructions
[22:09] <ashic__> Bassem: had some fun with usb, pcie, uefi. had to do this: uefi boot in bios, then uefi boot to ubuntu live usb>try without install>from OS install. as soon a files copied from usb and install starts, pull the usb disk. this is the only way i managed to get it all to work. (ubuntu 15.10)
[22:10] <Bassem> ashic__, what do you mean
[22:11] <TJ-> ashic__: the idea here is NOT to run the installer in UEFI mode, Bassem  NEEDS it in Legacy/BIOS mode to install alongside an existing Windows 7
[22:13] <Voyage> My ubuntu says that the latest version of git it has is 1.9. Is it ok for me to download it?
[22:13] <ashic__> Bassem, TJ: ahh...got it mixed up.
[22:13] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: wich ubuntu version?
[22:14] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  14.04 lts
[22:14] <lotuspsychje> !info git trusty
[22:14] <lotuspsychje> Voyage: sudo apt-get install git :p
[22:15] <Bassem> TJ-, any other way than univeral usb installer
[22:15] <nolsen> The repositories doesn't have mdm?
[22:15] <Voyage> lotuspsychje, yes but I am asking about the version. The latest is 2.6 or something
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> !find mdm
[22:16] <lotuspsychje> !latest | Voyage
[22:16] <nolsen> Not that mdm.
[22:16] <lotuspsychje> !details | nolsen
[22:16] <TJ-> Bassem: I don't use Windows so I'm not sure; others here will be able to tell you better. Anyone know the best Windows tool/method for writing a pure ISO image to USB, rather than something that tries to insert its own bootloader?
[22:17] <linux|newb> I've made a bootable USB for 15.10 and it works fine on one pc 1 but not pc 2. pc 2, after selecting usb boot medium just takes me to a flashing prompt, accepting no keyboard input
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  you mean mint display manager?
[22:17] <Pici> That was an interesting ubottu !find result. /me makes a note to research it later.
[22:17] <nolsen> mdm the desktop manager
[22:17] <linux|newb> neither pc has UEFI so it's not a legacy issue
[22:17] <nolsen> yes.
[22:17] <linux|newb> any ideas?
[22:17] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  that's from a different different distro, ubuntu does not have it
[22:17] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: universal usb installer performs pretty well normally
[22:17] <Voyage> lotuspsychje,  ya, I know, but talking in perspective of git?
[22:17] <TJ-> linux|newb: sounds like PC2 has a buggy BIOS
[22:17] <Hitechcg> TJ-: I believe there's a dd.exe somewhere
[22:18] <Voyage> Can anyone tell me how to make the text color of my text and others as white? I can got to the colors section but I cant find the exact thing
[22:18] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: care to try and help Bassem ? The USB booted in UEFI mode but shows flashing cursor in Legacy/BIOS mode, which is what he needs
[22:18] <TJ-> Hitechcg: oh nirvana :D !!
[22:18] <linux|newb> TJ-: stands to reason as no old distros boot from it anymore either... and they have in the past
[22:18] <Hitechcg> Also, if not that, I prefer Rufus.
[22:19] <linux|newb> TJ-: any way I can definitively check?
[22:19] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: im no dualboot specialist myself, but blink cursor useually means fastboot or secureboot not disabled
[22:19] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: sounds like a job for EriC^^ :p
[22:19] <nolsen> MonkeyDust: Well when I try to find it in a different repository, all the repositories end up with a 404 on apt-get update.
[22:20] <ashic_> TJ: so...I can see two devices are vying for the touchpad, but in evtest, neither is receiving any input from the touchpad. next step?
[22:20] <TJ-> linux|newb: I added a possible workaroud for that to the isolinux/syslinux boot-loader back in 2009 - not sure if you'll have it on that image though. Reboot, holding down the Ctrl key all the time and see if that forces it. It Ctrl doesn't seem to make an improvement, reboot again and hold down the Shift key
[22:20] <Hitechcg> I've had to use dd (on Linux) to make bootable USBs lately because *cough* the built-in USB creator is broken
[22:20]  * linux|newb has tried shift but not ctrl - brb
[22:20] <linux|newb> TJ-: thanks
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  now you know why
[22:21] <professornim> hey all
[22:21] <nolsen> MonkeyDust: No, I get 404 on any external repository.
[22:22] <professornim> looking for some help on changing the cursor size in 15.10
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  what is the output of  cat /etc/issue
[22:23] <professornim> have googled my issue, tried a few commands, restarted my machine, to no effect
[22:23] <nolsen> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  don't mix repos of different didtro's
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> professornim: unity-tweak-tool can get you other theme mouse pointer
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> distro's*
[22:24] <nolsen> MonkeyDust: I used the instructions for Ubuntu...
[22:24] <linux|newb> yer, no bueno
[22:24] <linux|newb> same flashing prompt
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  mdm belongs to mint, not to ubuntu
[22:25] <linux|newb> it's so weird... especially as I've booted off some of these images before
[22:25] <nolsen> Ugh, I'll just go compile it.
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> nolsen  if you can make it work, put a howto or so online
[22:25] <staticsn0w> im having a problem
[22:25] <staticsn0w> :P
[22:26] <nolsen> MonkeyDust: There already is!
[22:26] <professornim> lotuspsychje: no dice
[22:26] <nolsen> http://www.techbrown.com/install-cinnamon-2-6-on-ubuntu-14-15-linuxmint-17-1.shtml
[22:27] <staticsn0w> i downloaded the minecraft launcher.jar file from minecraft.net but i cant run it :(
[22:27] <auronandace> cinnamon is already in the repos
[22:27] <professornim> unity-tweak-tool didn't change anything
[22:27] <nolsen> auronandace: If you read it, you'll see that it also has mdm.
[22:28] <OerHeks> nolsen, it has only trusty/precise candidates https://launchpad.net/~tsvetko.tsvetkov/+archive/ubuntu/cinnamon
[22:30] <TJ-> linux|newb: do you want to test my diagnostic MBR, to at least tell you if a buggy BIOS is the problem?
[22:30] <nolsen> OerHeks: Then I can try using them :P
[22:31] <nolsen> oh wow, it works.
[22:31] <linux|newb> TJ-: yes please
[22:32] <nolsen> Just use the Trusty candidate. :P
[22:32] <TJ-> linux|newb: OK, first I'll link you to the very-well-commented source-code for it so you get an idea of its use and purpose, and I'll also link you to the bootstrap binary (435 bytes!)
[22:32] <linux|newb> TJ-: cheers
[22:32] <TJ-> linux|newb: Source/info: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/mbr-diag.S   Binary: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/mbr-diag.bin
[22:40] <wkts> How do you minimize windows in unity?
[22:41] <Tsutsukakushi> guys, ubuntu doesn't have passwd -uf, how do i unlock passowordless account?
[22:42] <Tsutsukakushi> and does chage -d 0 work on passwordless accounts
[22:42] <nico103> when is 16.04 due out?
[22:42] <Tsutsukakushi> nico103: april 2016
[22:42] <nico103> tsutsukakushi: thx
[22:42] <Tsutsukakushi> nico103: 16 is for the year, 04 is for the month
[22:42] <nico103> ah
[22:42] <nico103> got it
[22:44] <Myrtti> third Thursday
[22:44] <Tsutsukakushi> oh, you do usermod -U
[22:44] <Tsutsukakushi> ok
[22:45] <wkts> How do you minimize windows in unity?
[22:45] <wkts> I've nver used unity before
[22:46] <TJ-> linux|newb: if you need an explanation of what the diag results mean, show me what it reports
[22:47] <linux|newb> TJ-: thanks
[22:47] <TJ-> linux|newb: i'd recommend testing it first on the 'good' PC, then compare the result with the 'bad' PC
[22:48] <andy1> what is the command to get libreoffice on lubuntu please?
[22:48] <Tsutsukakushi> andy1: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[22:48] <andy1> thanks
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> or apt install
[22:48] <Tsutsukakushi> andy1: no problem
[22:48] <Tsutsukakushi> MonkeyDust: not if it's older version of lubuntu.
[22:49] <Tsutsukakushi> MonkeyDust: i'm playing it safe
[22:49] <IKilledJad> can anybody recommend me to a channel for support/help with xchat? new here
[22:50] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: /list #xchat told me that there is a channel #xchat with 91 people
[22:50] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: might want to try that
[22:50] <auronandace> IKilledJad: xchat is no longer developed, perhaps you should move to hexchat. for general irc help you can ask in #freenode
[22:51] <Tsutsukakushi> so, usermod -U didn't work on a passwordless account...
[22:51] <Tsutsukakushi> how does one do it then
[22:52] <IKilledJad> well Im really just looking for somebody to walk me through using it and setting up my own mini server possibly for a few friends and i while we game
[22:52] <Tsutsukakushi> auronandace: something not being actively developed doesn't mean that people should stop using it
[22:52] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: xchat is just a client, not a server
[22:53] <IKilledJad> I understand. But someone has to know how to set up their own servers to use the client on a completely private channel, am i wrong?
[22:53] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: as you i would probably set up a mumble server, it's easier and also has voice chat if you want that
[22:54] <IKilledJad> is the mumble distribution for linux any different then for windows? Ive tried mumble on my windows laptop and had nothing but trouble with everything from simply setting it up to voice and sound not being transmitted or recieved on both ends of my chat
[22:55] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: it's years since i tried mumble on windows, but i haven't had any problems setting mumble up on my linux boxes
[22:55] <IKilledJad> awesome, thanks
[22:55] <IKilledJad> ill try that again
[22:55] <IKilledJad> any other options just in case?
[22:56] <Tsutsukakushi> also setting up a whole ircd just for a few friends is a bit of an overkill, would be easier to just make a invite only channel on some network
[22:56] <Tsutsukakushi> some existing network*
[22:58] <IKilledJad> any tips? still new to the entire subject to some extent.
[22:59] <Tsutsukakushi> IKilledJad: i can guide you on that in a pm
[23:05] <Bassem> TJ-, now i boot it legacy/bios and still it cant feel my windows 7
[23:05] <TJ-> Bassem: really!?
[23:06] <Bassem> TJ-,  yes
[23:06] <Bassem> TJ-, im not from legacy booting
[23:06] <Bassem> TJ-, i had to recreat the usb again and run it from legeacy still cant feelmy windows
[23:06] <TJ-> Bassem: hmmm, that is weird. Did you look at /var/log/syslog when that happened, to see if os-prober was reporting the same problem again?
[23:07] <Bassem> TJ-,  i didnt
[23:08] <yotamL> Hello, is it safe to upgrade Ubuntu Gnome to Gnome Shell 3.18?
[23:08] <TJ-> Bassem: I'd recommend booting in Legacy/BIOS mode again, choosing "Try Ubuntu", then open a terminal and run "sudo os-prober" then do "grep 20microsoft /var/log/syslog "  and pastebin the result, so we can see all the messages the Windows detection code is reporting
[23:10] <Bassem> TJ-, im in trying ubuntu from legacy.bios
[23:11] <TJ-> Bassem: OK, do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" again, then do "pastebinit <( grep 20microsoft /var/log/syslog )"
[23:13] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13981036/
[23:13] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13981044/
[23:13] <TJ-> Bassem: os-prober has found Windows 7 !
[23:14] <TJ-> If you start the installer now, does it still say no OS found?
[23:15] <Bassem> TJ-, when i try to install ubuntu it give me the same message
[23:16] <TJ-> Bassem: hmmm, that is strange, because we now know the tool it uses has found an OS
[23:16] <Bassem> TJ-, so what is the problem now?
[23:16] <TJ-> Bassem: are you able to take a photo or screenshot and share it with us?
[23:16] <TJ-> Bassem: of the message dialog you see that shows no OS installed
[23:16] <Bassem> yes but what site to share it on?
[23:16] <TJ-> !paste
[23:17] <TJ-> !screenshots
[23:17] <Scriptonaut> Hey guys, I'm logged in as root. When I type passwd, it prompts me for a new password. I enter it, an dit says passwd: password updated successfully. However, now I'm trying to run chsh -s $(which bash), and it prompts me for a password, and my new password doesn't work (the old one doesnt' work either)
[23:18] <Scriptonaut> could somebody help me figure out why the password doesn't seem to be updated?
[23:20] <froggger> home a casa
[23:21] <Bassem> TJ-, http://imgur.com/LE50Fvf
[23:22] <TJ-> Bassem: remind which version of Ubuntu that is?
[23:22] <Bassem> TJ-, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Also, have you verified the copy to the USB drive is valid ? ( check disk for defects) ? - proprieties should be observed -
[23:24] <Bassem> Bashing-om, it wouldnt run if its not valid
[23:24] <akik> bassem: the something else option lets you see your current partitions. that would be interesting to see
[23:25] <Bassem> akik, it show my the whole disk without partitions
[23:26] <TJ-> Bassem: I'm looking at several possible bugs in ubiquity (the GUI installer) that report this issue
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Bassem: Wrong assumption there friend . Best to do the check particularly so as the installer is not working .
[23:26] <ignis-fatuus> Having problems with my system hanging at shutdown....been fighting this for a couple of days now. Anyone out there willing to help?
[23:26] <TJ-> Bashing-om: what is weird is running 'os-prober' manually does report finding Windows 7
[23:27] <Bassem> TJ-, akik http://imgur.com/4pJ9Icz
[23:28] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Yeah .. same as you .. why I asvise to " check disk for defects " to insure ALL files on the liveUSB are intact .
[23:28] <damien> hey guys, i got a question. Is there anyway to emulate a USB device as a iso image.. And now i just felt stupid..
[23:28] <damien> Just realised thatshow i always installs linux
[23:28] <damien> But. i wanna have the space left on it
[23:29] <TJ-> Bashing-om: yes, I think that is the next step. Bassem do as Bashing-om recommends, reboot the installer and on its boot menu choose 'check disk for defects' or whatever its called on 14.04
[23:30] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I think I know why it is doing it, its due to the left-over GPT metadata on that disk, but because its unclear how the disk got into that state I'm reluctant to recommend zapping the GPT metadata
[23:30] <TJ-> Bassem: does Windows 7 currently boot correctly from that hard disk?
[23:31] <Bassem> ok
[23:31] <Bashing-om> TJ-: You are the one I follow for isolating those offsets !
[23:31] <Bassem> TJ-, yes it work fine
[23:31] <Tsutsukakushi> guys, how do i create passwordless user, there is no passwd -uf and usermod -U doesn't work if it's passwordless...
[23:31] <EmeraldExplorer> Is there anyway to reinstall a program? For example when I installed phpmyadmin I selected a wrong thing in the config and now I cant change it because each time I try to reinstall it remembers what I put!
[23:32] <TJ-> Bassem: ok, let's try zapping those GPT leftovers then, and hope!
[23:32] <Tsutsukakushi> EmeraldExplorer: dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin
[23:32] <Bassem> TJ-, what do you mean
[23:32] <TJ-> Bassem: does "which sgdisk" report anything?
[23:32] <Bassem> TJ-,  how can i know?
[23:33] <Bassem> TJ-, any command line to try?
[23:33] <TJ-> Bassem: run that command, tell me if it reports anything
[23:33] <TJ-> Bassem: "which sgdisk"
[23:33] <Bashing-om> EmeraldExplorer: Might try to "purge" rather than remove .. as purge will remove the system ( not userspace ) config files .. then install ??
[23:33] <Bassem> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13981351/
[23:35] <TJ-> Bassem: good, it is installed, so we don't need to install the package first. We'll now 'zap' the unwanted GPT structures from the disk: "sudo sgdisk --zap /dev/sda"
[23:36] <ignis-fatuus> this is what I get when I shut go to shut down...any idea? http://i.imgur.com/KI7oaqy.jpg
[23:36] <TJ-> Bassem: after that, step back in the installer GUI then try to have it detect an OS again
[23:36] <gurn56> hello! i need help with changing xubuntu's squashfs filesystem. when i unpack, change and repack squashfs fs, there is problem that the new file is not booting anymore. i also tried to unpack and repack the same contents, but it's the same problem with it. any suggestion what to do? thank you in advance!
[23:36] <Bassem> TJ-,  will any of those command rune my disk?
[23:38] <Bassem> TJ-, will it mess up my hard disk?
[23:38] <andy1> hi
[23:38] <TJ-> Bassem: the 'zap' command will zero out the GPT primary and secondary headers from sda. We already know the GPT partition table is empty and the disk is only using the MBR, and I've checked that the first partition starts at sector 2048 and so can't be affected by the wiping of the primary GPT (which is at the start of the disk from sectors 1 through 33)
[23:38] <TJ-> Bassem: the secondary GPT header is at the end of the disk, and partition 3 ends way before the end of the disk
[23:39] <Bassem> Invalid partition data!
[23:39] <Bassem> GPT data structures destroyed! You may now partition the disk using fdisk or
[23:39] <Bassem> other utilities.
[23:40] <TJ-> Bassem: ok, so now back to the GUI installer, step it back and then forward to detect OS again
[23:40] <TJ-> Bassem: you might have to quit the installer program and restart it for this to work
[23:40] <Bassem> TJ-,  now it detect it
[23:41] <TJ-> Bassem: At last!!!!
[23:41] <akik> that's just amazing
[23:41] <TJ-> Bassem: you can finally get on now
[23:41] <Bassem> TJ-, yup :)
[23:41] <TJ-> akik: WHAT a bug in ubiquity though
[23:41] <Bassem> TJ-, hope you can offer bit more help through installing
[23:41] <akik> i wish there was a flow chart for uefi & mbr dual booting
[23:42] <TJ-> Bassem: my brain is exhausted I'll let others do that... besides which I rarely use the installer myself so not terribly familiar with it
[23:42] <Hink> Does Ubuntu (Server 15.10) not have chkconfig anymore?
[23:42] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Now has some more tweak'n to do in the bug squad .
[23:42] <Bassem> ok
[23:42] <TJ-> akik: there is... I wrote one, Bashing-om where did I put that boot overview?
[23:42]  * TJ- doesn't know his own web site!
[23:43] <akik> i've only done the mbr way
[23:43] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Hang on one .. I have it handy !
[23:43] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I knew you would :D
[23:43] <Bassem> http://imgur.com/E9nBmyU
[23:43] <Bassem> i want to install it on the free sda2
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Bassem: See: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/#a_bootloader .
[23:44] <Bassem> Bashing-om, i didnt understand any thing of
[23:44] <akik> thanks
[23:44] <TJ-> Bashing-om: thanks, I will bookmark it myself now
[23:44] <Voyage_> I am getting this message when I try to install skype. I am using kubuntu 14.04 lts. Any clue? The "skype" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[23:44] <Voyage_> 	Depends: skype, but it is a virtual package
[23:44] <Bassem> its my first time on ubuntu
[23:45] <physicz> join #physics
[23:45] <physicz> oops
[23:45] <physicz> forgot /
[23:45] <Bassem> i heard it need something like swap area
[23:45] <physicz> not spamming :D
[23:45] <andy1> i just downloaded this unix file
[23:45] <andy1> x-unikey-1.0.4.tar.bz2
[23:45] <andy1> how do i unzip it?
[23:45] <TJ-> Bassem: I'd recommend you make sda2 LVM, then you can create multiple file-system inside it
[23:45] <MonkeyDust> !zip | andy1
[23:45] <Bassem> TJ-,  what do you mean?
[23:46] <TJ-> andy1: "tar -xf x-unikey-1.0.4.tar.bz2"
[23:46] <Bassem> TJ-, sda2 is 100GB for ubuntu
[23:46] <Bassem> do i need to make swap area?
[23:46] <Bassem> or just install it on sda2
[23:48] <TJ-> Bassem: LVM == Logical Disk Management. It's a container format, much more flexible than partitions, where file-systems are inside 'Logical Volumes' (LVs), and multiple LVs are contained in a single 'Volume Group' (VG). VGs have 1 or more 'Physical Volumes' (PVs), in your case /dev/sda2 would be the PV
[23:48] <Tsutsukakushi> how do i create passwordless user, there is no passwd -uf and usermod -U doesn't work if it's passwordless...
[23:48] <ignis-fatuus> need help with system hanging at shutdown
[23:48] <Tsutsukakushi> ?
[23:48] <gke9> hello everyone, I cannot change permissions of a folder with gksudo. I cannot save a file to that folder, either, for 'insufficient user rights'.
[23:49] <TJ-> Bassem: as to the installer, I'm not sure if in manual mode you can configure for LVM in the way I'm recommending. I know the automated install options offer an LVM install though
[23:50] <Bassem> TJ-, sda2 and sda3 are same color
[23:50] <Voyage_> I am getting this message when I try to install skype. I am using kubuntu 14.04 lts. Any clue? The "skype" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[23:50] <Voyage_> 	Depends: skype, but it is a virtual package
[23:50] <TJ-> Tsutsukakushi: does "passwd --delete" do what you want?
[23:51] <TJ-> Bassem: you need to re-assign the empty partition (/dev/sda2 I think you said) as LVM
[23:51] <TJ-> Bassem: with sda2 selected, press the "Change..." button
[23:53] <TJ-> Bassem: there should then be an option to select the file-system type, and hopefully on the drop-down list you should find 'LVM' as an option
[23:53] <Bassem> TJ-,  then ?? which chooice is for lvm
[23:53] <SchrodingersScat> gke9: that seems like two different questions.  if you want to change the permissions of the directory you can use chmod and change ownership with chown, if you need to edit a file within it, then something like gksudo gedit /path/to/file should suffice.
[23:53] <Bassem> TJ-, theres not
[23:53] <akik> i think it's called physical volume (lvm)
[23:54] <TJ-> Bassem: that's annoying. If there definitely is not we'll have to get that done manually from a terminal
[23:55] <Bassem> TJ-, i think when i partitioned the harddisk i made c:\ primery and the rest is logic
[23:55] <gke9> SchrodingersScat, but I was always able to change them both via gksudo in file manager, by changing both the folder permissions and those of enclosed files.
[23:55] <Bassem> then creat two partions d and e in the logic
[23:56] <TJ-> Bassem: that has nothing to do with LVM though
[23:56] <Bassem> TJ-,
[23:56] <TJ-> Bassem: an msdos 'logical' partition is an entirely different thing to LVM, so don't let it confuse you :)
[23:56] <TJ-> Bassem: and the msdos partition table didn't show any extended or logical partitions
[23:57] <TJ-> Bassem: so, if the GUI doesn't offer LVM we'll do it manually
[23:57] <Bassem> i have ext4,3,2,btrfs,jfs,xfs,fat15,fat32,ntfs,swap area,physical volume
[23:58] <Bassem> thats all what i get when i click change
[23:59] <TJ-> Bassem: its as akik said "physical volume"
[23:59] <andy1> i want to build by typing ./configure
[23:59] <TJ-> Bassem: that'll be an LVM 'PV' which is what we want


[00:50] <ubotu> New bug: #40544 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (restricted) "fglrx: Xinerama does not work" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40544
[06:16] <DShepherd> http://pastebin.com/m7ecf18a8 -- I get this error when i run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart but startx starts X fine. anyone know the solution?
[06:17] <DShepherd> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart|start hangs gdm.
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #21107 in xserver-xorg-video-savage (main) "24bit mode breaks after acpi suspend/resume" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21107
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #163850 in xf86-input-evtouch (universe) "Uncalibrated and can't calibrate with 0.8.7-2 on Samsung Q1 Ultra" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163850
[12:34] <ubotu> New bug: #164392 in xorg (main) "Freeze on applications for a few seconds" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164392
[16:57] <DShepherd> psst. anybody around?
[16:57] <DShepherd> i think i have a problem that is related to X, not sure though...
[16:57] <tjaalton> DShepherd: just ask
[16:58] <DShepherd> when i do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart|start gdm won't start... but startx starts it fine
[16:59] <DShepherd> http://pastebin.com/m7ecf18a8 -- i get this error in my syslog. that i think is related to gdm or X. not sure though
[16:59] <tjaalton> gutsy/hardy/?
[16:59] <DShepherd> gutsy
[16:59] <tjaalton> if startx works then it's probably gdm
[16:59] <DShepherd> correction.. gdm starts up fine.. but hangs on login
[17:01] <DShepherd> tjaalton, ok
[17:01] <tjaalton> so X works
[17:01] <tjaalton> if the login screen comes up
[17:01] <tjaalton> how come the log timestamps are reversed?
[17:02] <DShepherd> tac
[17:04] <DShepherd> tjaalton, sorry if that confused you. i just like to the most recent log first
[17:05] <tjaalton> try reinstalling gdm
[17:05] <DShepherd> tjaalton, I did, that didn't seem to fix the problem
[17:05] <tjaalton> or file a bug! :)
[17:05] <DShepherd> *sighs*
[17:06] <tjaalton> although I think that something in your system is broken
[17:06] <tjaalton> I've never seen that
[17:06] <DShepherd> i suspect that too..
[17:06] <DShepherd> i guess you are throwing in the towel now? =)
[17:07] <tjaalton> yep
[17:07] <DShepherd> ok, thanks for attention though
[17:08]  * DShepherd grumbles about linux, gdm  and .....
[19:02] <tjaalton> bryce: I'll upload the new l-r-m, think it's due
[19:15] <tjaalton> uh, AMD has released a newer driver, AMD Catalyst 7.11
[19:15] <tjaalton> interesting version
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #146613 in xkeyboard-config (main) "The Norwegian apple keyboard is wrong" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146613
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #160171 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Norwegian Mac keyboard layout: No "advanced" characters by default" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/160171
[20:45] <bryce> tjaalton: cool
[21:21] <Q-FUNK> tjaalton: which chipset?
[21:23] <tjaalton> Q-FUNK: ?
[21:25] <Q-FUNK> (21:15:18) tjaalton: uh, AMD has released a newer driver, AMD Catalyst 7.11
[21:25] <tjaalton> yes, new versioning scheme for fglrx
[22:55] <ubotu> New bug: #164589 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "Occasional screen-wide "blink" when using compiz" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164589