[11:33] <Rioting_pacifist> Heliodor: they shouldnt be any slower (unless you have very little ram) perhaps if you need to reprofile your boot so it catches kde libs aswell as gnome, the looks can be fixed by using a similar theme in both
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: most people start with ubuntu as it the one making most noise right now but theres thousands of distros
[11:33] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Id rather stick to the most supported distro with the biggest user base:)
[11:33] <tuntun_> Hi, whats the best video editor for .avi?
[11:34] <Rioting_pacifist> Heliodor:
[11:34] <Rioting_pacifist> Heliodor: debain?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: BSD is also hugely awesome
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you'll probably find redhat is more used due to its industrial use
[11:34] <qqx> i cant launch it "command not found"
[11:34] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Ive used freebsd for 5 years on servers, not desktop though, most packages and apps are so old.
[11:34] <qqx>  erUSUL
[11:34] <oCean_> qqx: "sudo updatedb && locate cinel" ?
[11:35] <steveccc> hi all - does anyone know if i add a bookmark within a pdf document and then save it and this is done quite a few times reading through the pdf - does this lower the quality like constant saves to a jpg does?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: gentoo is great if you want to watch your system grow
[11:35] <Heliodor> Rioting_pacifist: Debian has the biggest user base??
[11:35] <erUSUL> qqx: dpkg -L cinelerrapackagename | grep bin <<< paste the output of this on pastebin please
[11:35] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Gentoo is sourcecode based right?
[11:35] <lugia> cn
[11:35] <Letter_Z> I'm trying to copy a .ttf to /user/share/fonts/truetype/freefont but it keeps saying "Permission Denied". I am admin and I tried using sudo copy but apparently there is no such command as "copy" idk. how do I copy truetype to /usr/share/fonts?
[11:35] <OllyM> hi chaps. Can anyone tell me how to run a command (grep "string" myfile.log) from the command line every second, so i see a constant update as to the results of the command ?
[11:36] <oCean_> qqx: or run dpkg -c <cinelwhatever.deb> to see what is the actual contents of the deb
[11:36] <viktorkAZ> hello, well.. my question is.. i stop using ubuntu for about 8 months.. now im using xfce and i remember i delete the gui loging somehow and i dont remember how i do it.. i need it back because i want to log in as gnome.. any idea?
[11:36] <qqx> erUSUL, it just has some packages and a gpg key
[11:36] <Rioting_pacifist> technically speaking yet, because ubuntu, xandros, etc are all debian based, but generally most desktop users are on ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you use emerge like you do apt but you download and compile source code instead of prebuilt binary, it can be optomised to get better speed / resource use
[11:36] <lugia> My QQ cannot login ,does someone knows how to solve?
[11:36] <oCean_> OllyM: could you use "tail -f /path/to/log" ?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: as i say, there is more than ubuntu and the other are worth a try
[11:37] <Heliodor> Ah.
[11:37] <Rioting_pacifist> viktorkAZ: youll need to install xdm i think
[11:37] <Rioting_pacifist> anybody able to make prepare on x86_64 systems i cant find a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/233950
[11:37] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Hehe, im sure there is. But i think il be fine with Ubuntu, im using an OS to work on it, not mess around with it.
[11:38] <oCean_> OllyM: otherwise you'll have to loop (while true; do grep string logfile; sleep 1; done)
[11:38] <Heliodor> Anyone got Java plugin working on 64 bit system?
[11:38] <new_to_ubunu> hi, how to start graphical desktop for ubuntu server?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Heliodor,  yes.. and all i did was install  'ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[11:38] <erUSUL> qqx: you installed more than a single deb file ?
[11:38] <Gautam> hi, can you please tell me how can i test that mysql and apache are running ?
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: ok, just saying you may find something better. You probably used windows before but changd to ubuntu, same kinda step
[11:38] <qqx> no theres one package and one gpg key
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Gautam: test apache: http://localhost
[11:38] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: What??
[11:38] <RizR> I cant seem to save sessions. When I logout and re-login all opened programs need to be re-opened again. Is there a way to open those automatically upon re-login/reboot?
[11:39] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Started with windows yes, ive used linux a lot though, but mostly servers.
[11:39] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: So unrestricted extras have java 64 bit for intrepid?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Heliodor,   sudo apt-get install  ubuntu-restricted-extras                         installs java and flash and some other bits for me.. thats all i did to get java working on  my 64bit install
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: same kinda deal, just with an x server
[11:40] <oCean_> Gautam: or cli: "/etc/init.d/apache2 status"
[11:40] <new_to_ubunu> does anyone know how to start graphical desktop environment on text-based ubuntu server?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Heliodor,  no idea if it was 64 or 32bit java.. but it works.
[11:40] <erUSUL> qqx: from what i can see from the manual the executable filename is "cinelerra" so there must have been some error installing it
[11:40] <devex> new_to_ubunu: u dont want to start a desktop env on a server system :p
[11:40] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: Thanks for the help!
[11:40] <lvlefisto> Dr_Willis_ZNC: but java plugin for mozilla doesn't work on 64 bit
[11:40] <simplexio> RizR: does system->prefs->sessions-> session options help
[11:40] <qqx> i think i just installed the key rings
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:40] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> lvlefisto,  its working here it seems.. dont ask me how.
[11:41] <new_to_ubunu> i want to, coz i'm new to it
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> lvlefisto,  i was playing runequest earlier with it
[11:41] <RizR> simplexio: no :-) It seemed an obvious choice but doesnt have any effect.
[11:41] <new_to_ubunu> ok thanks :) i'm testing it
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: if you are new to ubuntu why did you get the server iso/
[11:41] <qqx> thanks erUSUL
[11:41] <Heliodor> Ah, itś openJDK that wont work....
[11:41] <erUSUL> qqx: no problem
[11:41] <new_to_ubunu> coz i need samba server and apache
[11:41] <lvlefisto> Dr_Willis_ZNC: maybe you are using icedtea or something else, 'cause sun's java just don't work
[11:41] <new_to_ubunu> i used to run apache on win32
[11:41] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Heliodor,  yes.. the non-sun javas can cause problems
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: you can install those on the desktop system
[11:42] <EhsenSiraj> would you please recommend a software which allow me to cut scenes from DVD
[11:42] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: Indeed. the removedesk software wont work on anything else
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: as a new user I'd strongly recommend the desktop system then install the apps you need
[11:42] <new_to_ubunu> i thought the server will get me more reliable system
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: they are both equally reliable
[11:42] <Heliodor> LoLs
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubunu: i think you should have looked at what you were actually downloading and what the real difference really is
[11:43] <Heliodor> new_to_ubunu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812
[11:43] <new_to_ubunu> i tested : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, but i get an error result that the package is not foun
[11:43] <sleepy_cat> can you tell me the where is the destination folder of sound converter
[11:44] <Heliodor> Any idea what backup software is the best for ubuntu? Imageing that is.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubuntu: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you need to lose the "best" mentality dude
[11:44] <new_to_ubuntu-> hm, i do both of them?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: there is no best, otherwise no one would use anything else and the other projects ould die
[11:44] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Sorry about that.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> !backup | Heliodor
[11:44] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> lvlefisto,  it does seem to be using icedtea for firefox. in about:plugins . but sun java for the other parts of the  system
[11:45] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Perhaps that is a good thing?
[11:45] <lugia> Did someone knows how to jump into the Chinese'group
[11:45] <Peleus> Hello all
[11:45] <lugia> someone chinese here?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: no its not, different apps provide different capabilities, which will make one app best for one user but worst for another
[11:45] <achadwick> !zh | lugia
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> !ch | lugia
[11:45] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: If there was a superior app, then the developers interrested in it could make it even better. Now every developer is scattered around many projects making the users confused.
[11:45] <lugia> thanks
[11:46] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I belive in cooperative superiority, not scattered diversity
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: not all users are equal, just like windows is not the best operating system, neither is linux, neither is bsd
[11:46] <Peleus> Linux newbie - I'm playing with c compiling and to run my programs I need to put "./" at the start of each execution. This is apparently because it is not part of the "PATH" at the moment, can someone please tell me how I can add it to the "PATH" variable so I don't need to type ./ all the time? Thank you
[11:46] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> 'specilization is for insects' :)
[11:47] <oCean_> Peleus: sure
[11:47] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> computers and software and os's are just tools.. I have a variaty of saws in my wood shop..and a varity of hammers.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: its never going to happen. another good example is kde, gnome, xfce, fluxbox etc....
[11:47] <Chousuke> Peleus: if you're just playing with the file, adding it to $PATH is overkill.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: all are DEs but not one is best, its only best for the job for the individual user
[11:47] <oCean_> Peleus: if your new executables are in /home/yourdir/bin, you can modify the PATH variable by "export PATH=$PATH:/home/yourdir/bin"
[11:48] <DavidVWallin> hi, qucik question. how do i turn off suspend entirely in ubuntu? everytime my laptop goes down in suspend-mode it refuses to start back up
[11:48] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Perhaps thats why OS X has much more users even though its not free.
[11:48] <bashca> where  i can get  public key of mediubuntu ??
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you'll find more users on windows
[11:48] <Nom-> Before I drive myself mad... there's a simple way to make apache2 serve php5 scripts as scripts instead of sending the script back to the browser... i have this trouble every time I install php :(
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Peleus,  if you put binaries in your users /home/user/bin dir.. the default .bashrc/scripts WILL see that directroy and add that bin to the default path anyway.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: doesnt make it best though
[11:48] <Peleus> "export PATH=$PATH:/home/yourdir/bin" something I simply type into the terminal? Chousuke, any particular downside to doing it?
[11:48] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yeah, but we all know thats because the common user have never seen any alternative.
[11:48] <oCean_> Peleus: see your ~/.profile - edit that file to make the change permanent, otherwise you'll have to re-enter the command every time after login
[11:48] <simplexio> Peleus: export PATH=$PATH:./ or something like that.. and and usually its considered bad way to do it
[11:48] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Peleus,  the default .bashrc basicially does that. allready
[11:48] <Heliodor> Cite "working alternative"
[11:49] <Chousuke> simplexio: no.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: now many have, but still prefer windows as its best for their needs, but millions disagree
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: but they will use whats best for them
[11:49] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Thatś because linux do not have the same application market, there is no money to be made.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: wanna bet?
[11:49] <Chousuke> simplexio: ah, right, you noted that's no good. :) Sorry, reflex :P
[11:49] <oCean_> Peleus: yes, type it in terminal. Use "echo $PATH" to see which directories are currently in your path. Remember, this will not make the executable available to other users on the system..
[11:49] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Sure :)
[11:49] <bashca> where  i can get  public key of mediubuntu ??
[11:50] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: If there was money to be made, why is there no pay-for-apps?
[11:50] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Peleus,  or at least it used to..i cant seem to find it now.  :)
[11:50] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: No accounting, no photoshop even though the users hunger for it.
[11:50] <Peleus> So if I want to permanently add it to the path I need to edit the .profile so I don't need to repeat it each time I login. Otherwise alternatives can be to simply run my files in my /home/user/bin folder which is already located there. Seem about correct?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: gnucash and gimp
[11:51] <oCean_> Peleus: Indeed
[11:51] <quibbler> bashca, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[11:51] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I think where i am heading is, there is not commercial support and training for the apps.
[11:51] <Chousuke> Peleus: also, adding stuff to the path is fine (as long as it's not .) but you'll still have to move the things you compile into it. if you compile often that's no better than using ./
[11:51] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Peleus,  the last 4 lines of the .profile file add the bin dir to the path if it exists wehn you first login.       that file gets read/used ONLY on the initial login i think.
[11:51] <Heliodor> No marketing
[11:51] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: If no one sees it, it does not exist.
[11:52] <Chousuke> Peleus: of course, it's good when you have your program *done* and want to actually use it for stuff later.
[11:52] <Peleus> No problem. Thank you very much for your help folks
[11:52] <S4nD3r> Hi there. My system give me this message: You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: "Carlos Alex Sander J. Gulo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>DSA key, ID 00ECFA93, created 2008-10-02
[11:52] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Look at where Haiku is heading, and youl see a unity in developing that i have never seen before in an open source community.
[11:52] <DavidVWallin> Why does suspend and/or hibernate bug in ubuntu?!
[11:52] <S4nD3r> I dont know what is it
[11:53] <S4nD3r> What to do?
[11:53] <aeosynth> DavidVWallin: make sure swap is enabled
[11:53] <aeosynth> google hibernate swap
[11:53] <Goku> what does it mean when I get a message saying I have a DCC pending and I have to set the client to accept a file transfer
[11:53] <Peleus> I'm fairly sure there is no fix for this, but I'll ask anyway just in case. My bluetooth mouse drops out after each restart / hibernation. I have to delete it from the profile and re-search for it to get it working again. Any ideas?
[11:53] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Though, Wine might "save" any desktop. I think itś the most important app of all time.
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Goku,  someone tried to send you a file...  i wouldent accept files like that.. unless you knew y the  guy sending them
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: Mandrakesoft recorded its first quarterly profit since 1999 of €270,000 on €1.42 million of revenue during the period between October 2003 and December 2003. http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Mandriva
[11:54] <Goku> i requested it, but it gave me the message
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: its just people are so use to PS so they think they have to use it, there are a lot of alterntives
[11:54] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Goku,  dcc file transfers often have issues these days with routers and firewalls..
[11:55] <Goku> ahhh... that makes sense then, I'm using a router
[11:55] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: But mandriva has a corp server software. thats where they make the money, not the desktop
[11:55] <aeosynth> i just get a blank screen when I log in; when i do /etc/init.d/gdm start it says [Fail]
[11:55] <Goku> thanks, brb
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: they can also charge for phone support
[11:55] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I dont care what app i use, ive tried using only GIMP for 2 years, but still prefer Photoshop.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: the OS is free, the phone support isnt
[11:56] <bashca> thanks
[11:56] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yes, that is one way.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> I cant afford to buy Photoshop.
[11:56] <Cyber_Hades> It is possible to build a cluster under Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[11:56] <Dylan__> Does gnome have an application that tracks the market?
[11:56] <S4nD3r> Its looks encripted
[11:56] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: Ive spent over 5000euro on adobe software alone. I know what you mean :)
[11:56] <Dylan__> Does Ubuntu have a market tracker application?
[11:57] <Heliodor> Dylan__: market tracker?
[11:57] <Cyber_Hades> Some... please... can i build a Cluster under Ubuntu 8.10 ???
[11:57] <new_to_ubuntu-> oh my god, i have to fetch 400MB+ from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dekstop
[11:57] <Dylan__> Heliodor:  Yea, for example, if I want to track the value of stocks, or the market, gold, etc.
[11:57] <Heliodor> new_to_ubuntu-: be glad you dont have to build it from source ;)
[11:57] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> new_to_ubuntu-,  so?
[11:58] <Heliodor> Dylan__: Ah, now, there is none.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> new_to_ubuntu-, ivehad printer drivers under windows that were 200+mb downloads.
[11:58] <Heliodor> Dylan__: http://ubuntuguru.wordpress.com/2007/05/25/ubuntu-stock-market-programs/
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Cyberi know of clustering linux distros but i dont think you can run ubuntu as the head system
[11:58] <Dylan__> Heliodor:  That is too bad
[11:58] <new_to_ubuntu-> so, should i get the desktop iso? instead of doing this?
[11:58] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> new_to_ubuntu-,  i would.
[11:58] <new_to_ubuntu-> ok
[11:58] <new_to_ubuntu-> :(\
[11:58] <Heliodor> new_to_ubuntu-: result would be the same :)
[11:59] <oCean_> new_to_ubuntu-: just curious. You want to run server, for server purposes, right. Why do you need the desktop?
[11:59] <Cyber_Hades> ... some other system for clustering ?
[11:59] <Cyber_Hades> RedHat ???
[11:59] <new_to_ubuntu-> except that i will be able to burn the iso and have a backup CD later
[11:59] <Heliodor> Cyber_Hades: freebsd with webmin is good for clustering.
[11:59] <Goku> Hey Dr_Willis, Just wanted to let you know that it turned out it was cuz the DCC was set to auto accept file transfers and it wouldn't go through that way
[11:59] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Cyber_Hades,  i recall some disrto-variants focused on clustering... but ive never used them..
[11:59] <Goku> Weird but iono
[12:00] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Goku,   it stayed there to tell you it was done..
[12:00] <Cyber_Hades> My plan is to create cluster betwen 2 pc.... both Ubuntu 8.10 ! It's that possible ?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubuntu-: i'd recommend it as a new ubuntu user
[12:00] <new_to_ubuntu-> i'm planning to install wine too, that needs desktop right?
[12:00] <Tonio_> any reviewer for this please ? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-network-manager
[12:01] <Tonio_> thanks in advance :)
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubuntu-: it needs X libs so yes
[12:01] <Heliodor> new_to_ubuntu-: yes
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> peace out
[12:01] <Zelut> anyone very fdamiliar with tinydns?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> !info tinydns
[12:01] <Heliodor> new_to_ubuntu-: im not sure you can just install the desktop on the server, you would probably neew the x-server and stuff to
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> new_to_ubuntu-: you can install all the smaba goodness you like after you install the desktop
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> installing the desktop stuiff to the 'server install' can cause some issues.
[12:02] <sleepy_cat> kl0x:
[12:02] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> from what ive seen asked in here about it.
[12:02] <Heliodor> BAAH
[12:02] <Zelut> i've got a bind server that is forwarding to a tinydns server but i never get responses back.. can't figure out why.
[12:02] <Heliodor> There should be a big notice somewhere that Xinerama DOES NOT WORK.
[12:02] <Heliodor> with compiz.
[12:03] <S4nD3r> What to do?
[12:03] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Heliodor,  Hmm.. it works here.. well actually imusing twinview... that has xinerama features built in
[12:03] <howtoo> any Swedish users here? how can I produce a | with a swedish xkblayout?
[12:03] <howtoo> ALT-GR + < gives me ½
[12:03] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_ZNC: Not exacly, i have dual screens and when i activate xinerama it disables compositing.
[12:03] <Cyber_Hades> lol... i look   FreBsd... it's just shell.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: copiz sucks anyways
[12:04] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I think itś very good. Fast to.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Cyber_Hades: install an xserver any you are golden
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: i find fluxbox is waaay faster
[12:04] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: But compatible?
[12:04] <S4nD3r> Which is the default passphrase of Ubuntu to my user?
[12:05] <Wolverin3> hi
[12:05] <xess> como va
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: its fully compatible, why would it not be?
[12:05] <Wolverin3> how i can enable DMIX on spdif ALC882?
[12:05] <xess> alguien habla español
[12:05] <xess> ??
[12:05] <Wolverin3> yo
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: whats it going to be incompatible with exactly?
[12:06] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I remember compiz had problems with apps like wine and video.
[12:06] <Wolverin3> xess, entra a #ubuntu-es
[12:06] <lvlefisto> !sp | xess
[12:06] <lvlefisto> !es | xess
[12:06] <S4nD3r> I never created any passphrase
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: thats because its a bit flakey and uses 3d to draw the desktop, fluxbox doesnt have all that sort of stuff
[12:06] <xess> ok gracias
[12:06] <S4nD3r> Why Ubuntu is asking me this ?
[12:06] <Wolverin3> de nada
[12:07] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Hum... never heard of fluxbox does it have window grouping and tabbing to?
[12:07] <Wolverin3> because he dont know :s
[12:07] <Cyber_Hades> nop... :)) I tryng to install cluster on Ubuntu 8.10... it's my favorite OS :))
[12:07] <kl0x> xess: lol
[12:07] <Ghone> I bought a netbook today and all seemed well with the Ubuntu installation until networkmanager broke after a reboot.  Clicking on the natwork-manager notification icon shows "device is unmanaged" but the wifi is working anyway.  Any ideas on how to get network-manager working again?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: try it: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: log off, change session to fluxbox and log on
[12:07] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Um.. wont that mess things up?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: no, you are simply logging on to a different desktop environment, it won't "mess anything up"
[12:08] <Heliodor> Okay, il try :)
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you can freely switch between desktop environments as you wish
[12:08] <kl0x> How was called the app that could show you your gdm without logging out'
[12:09] <rich> guys, how do i tell which usb device is connected to a usb port?
[12:09] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: KDE to??
[12:09] <rich> sorry, which block device is associated with which usb port?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: what?
[12:09] <savvas> kl0x: System > Administration > Login window
[12:09] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Can i change to KDE aswell?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you need to log off and change it to fluxbox
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you could install xfce too and select that at logon
[12:10] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yes, i know, but can i have gnome, kde, flyxbox etc at the same time?
[12:10] <kl0x> savvas: Thx, but I meant an app that could open a new session in a window, so you dont' need to log out to log in with other user
[12:10] <savvas> Heliodor: yes
[12:10] <Heliodor> Super. :)
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you can only RUN one in the foreground for each X server, you can USE the libs of the other DEs for the other apps
[12:10] <Cyber_Hades> I read something about Linux clustering over Kerrighed... Latest version is Kerrighed 2.3.0. It is based on Linux 2.6.20. Working on Ubuntu 8.10 yes or no ????
[12:10] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yes, that i understand.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: like you can run KDE but run gedit if you have GTK libs installed
[12:11] <savvas> kl0x: ah you mean Fast user switch applet? Right click on your gnome panel ("taskbar") and select "Add to panel"
[12:11] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: What will happen to the apps, do i have to install them on each desktop?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: no its the same system so the apps are all available
[12:11] <rich> guys how can i tell which usb port is assocaited with a particular block device?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: i personally run fluxbox but use kde apps
[12:11] <Heliodor> Oh... thats perfect :D
[12:11] <Cyber_Hades> enyone....
[12:12] <oCean_> Cyber_Hades: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntuClustering
[12:12] <savvas> kl0x: sorry, the app is called "User switcher"
[12:12] <kl0x> savvas: nope, it's not it, i'll find out thx
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> oCean_: nice find bro
[12:12] <Cyber_Hades> tnx 4 link
[12:12] <Heliodor> Bah, why do all fluxbox screenshots use nerdy wierd apps and no standard ones.
[12:12] <lvlefisto> kl0x: maybe you want to try out FreeNX
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: there are no standard apps
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: all users are different
[12:13] <Heliodor> Indeed.
[12:13] <savvas> I think there's a fluxbuntu floating around somewhere
[12:14] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> standard app = xterm and vi :)
[12:14] <savvas> Heliodor: http://fluxbuntu.org/
[12:14] <kl0x> lvlfisto: It's not it either but thx, didn0't know that app, sounds cool
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: here's mine: http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/desktop.jpg?t=1232021063
[12:14] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> crunchbang linux = ubuntu with openbox instead of fluxbox  i think also.
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: standard enough apps for you?
[12:14] <poncio> hi! how do i remove older kernel versions from my /boot ?
[12:15] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Thats fluxbox?
[12:15] <poncio> should i just type rm *version* ?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: yeah all the apps in the tray are kde apps (amarok, ktorrent etc)
[12:15] <hateball> poncio: you can apt-get remove them, or just comment them out in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:15] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: No, thats a graveyard ;)
[12:15] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> poncio,  i would just leave them alone. just in case
[12:15] <Dahiss> hey
[12:15] <Dahiss> anyone can help me ?:p
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: its slick and lightweight, my system can run compiz with ease, I just dont like all the clutter
[12:16] <Dahiss> im new to ubuntu, i changed resolution and now i have 256 colors, instead of 32 bits
[12:16] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Thanks for all the info, il try some out :)
[12:16] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> poncio,  thers a  setting in menu.lst to only show a set # of them.  i always have it at least keep 2
[12:16] <Dahiss> and i can't change the refresh rate, its 0 all time
[12:16] <evowill> !ask | Dahiss
[12:16] <poncio> i actualy deleted them the other day because i had no space in the boot drive...
[12:16] <savvas> poncio: how many linux kernels do you see?
[12:16] <Dahiss> okay, ive changed resolution to 1024 x 768, and now i have 256 instead of 32 and 0 refresh rate :P
[12:16] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I thought compiz was module based? Remove the clutter and use the functions that improve the user experience?
[12:16] <Solixa> Hey, when I do xrandr it says my rez will only go to 1024*768 - How can I make it higher?
[12:17] <poncio> the other problem is i deleted the last version by mistake.. so i have to boot an older one...
[12:17] <aeosynth> my gdm won't start. help?
[12:17] <poncio> how do i restore the last version?
[12:17] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Oh... this was a bad idea, compiz benchmark.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: i want my DE so when I hit minimise its gone, not a song and dance. 3d naff just looks tacky
[12:17] <Heliodor> Got 1785FPS atleast :)
[12:18] <Solixa> Hey, when I do xrandr it says my rez will only go to 1024*768 - How can I make it higher?
[12:18] <Dahiss> why i got 256 colors, instead of 32 bits ?:P, i just changed resolution
[12:18] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yes, i dont like waiting for animations either, so i speed them up very much
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: means nothing unless you say your settings too
[12:18] <savvas> poncio: go to System > Administration > Synaptic package manager. Click on "Status" on the lower left corner. See inside "Installed (local or obsolete)" - Select a package you what you want to remove, right-click on it and press "Mark for Complete Removal".  Also in Status, check out "Not Installed (residual config)"
[12:19] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I noticed that, when changing to expose like thingie, i get 1443FPS
[12:19] <aeosynth> will dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg repair gdm?
[12:19] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X windows in the top left corner that wont go away.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: its enough either way, dont sweat it
[12:20] <Dahiss> can i change someway, my resoultion back to the 1980 x .... (but my old 17, is not good for it), to get normal colors back?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you cat even see that many frames
[12:20] <Solixa> Can anyone tell me how to make my resolution higher than 1024*768?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: what video card?
[12:20] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Last time i used ubuntu, i got 65FPS max even without limiting
[12:20] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, nVidia 8700M GT
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: TV film runs at 24FPS and looks fine
[12:20] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off!
[12:20] <poncio> savvas, wich packages should i change then?
[12:21] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: yes, i know :)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: so anything above is fine
[12:21] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME!
[12:21] <savvas> poncio: the "Not installed (residual config)" are all safe to mark for complete removal. it's packages you removed and have leftover configuration files (removes stuff from root system files/folders, NOT your home directory configuration files)
[12:21] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Yeah.
[12:21] <toader> Hi, under ubuntu, which file browser is better? thanks
[12:21] <Ghone> Solixia: are you using the proprietary drivers?
[12:21] <mib_gzbeyy9u> Nautilus
[12:22] <Solixa> Ghone, no idea.
[12:22] <Heliodor> toader: i use firefox
[12:22] <Solixa> Ghone, new to linux.
[12:22] <savvas> poncio: in "Installed (local or obsolete)" lists packages that YOU installed (with a .deb file) or packages that are NOT supported anymore. All linux-image* packages in there are safe to remove.
[12:22] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new!
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> toader: try a few, see which you like,
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: he wants a file browser
[12:22] <Lordveda> I need to know why isn't gdm-2.24 included by default in ubuntu?
[12:23] <Dahiss> so, its isn't possible to get my old resolution back?
[12:23] <Lordveda> is it a security issue with gdm 2.24?
[12:23] <Ghone> Solixia: for best performance with an nVidia card you'll need the proprietary drivers.
[12:23] <Heliodor> Haha, lol, sorry about that :)
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> toader: konqueror, thunar, rox, nautilus
[12:23] <Heliodor> toader: dolphin
[12:23] <Solixa> Ghone, Where can I get them?
[12:23] <toader> ActionParsnip: thanks, which is better
[12:23] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new!
[12:23] <Heliodor> toader: i prefere nautlius, it has tabs
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> toader: none is better, try each one for a while, see which you like
[12:23] <mib_gzbeyy9u> Some one plese help!
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> toader: I use dolphin personally
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: run: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:24] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: do dolphin support tabs?
[12:24] <DWITA_99> hello
[12:24] <Lordveda> Heliodor: yes
[12:24] <mib_gzbeyy9u> Anyone?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: dunno, I dont use it enough really, I usually use command line
[12:24] <Heliodor> What is the tool for changing compiz themes?
[12:24] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new!
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: head over to the dolphon site and see
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: or install it and see
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: you can always uninstall
[12:25] <Ghone> Solixia: You can use the restricted drivers manager or EnvyNG to get nVidia drivers.
[12:25] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, xeon@xeonx:~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[12:25] <Solixa> -bash: lspci: command not found
[12:25] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new! Someone or anyone?
[12:25] <riz0n> Hi, i have a machine with Ubuntu 8.10 that locks up on startup (At one time it did boot fine). When I do recovery mode, it hangs at EMU10K1_Audigy 0000:02:04.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 ... what do I need to do on this machine to get back into Ubuntu?
[12:25] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: About uninstalling, i saw that when i remove apackage, it only removes the main package not the libs and other files!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: its ell ess pee see eye
[12:26] <mib_gzbeyy9u> The X window has the normal red x as it's icon, is black, nd won't close!
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:26] <steveccc> hi all - does anyone know if i add a bookmark within a pdf document and then save it and this is done quite a few times reading through the pdf - does this lower the quality like constant saves to a jpg does?
[12:26] <Lordveda> Heliodor: synaptic uses the same attitude you are talking about
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: even better is
[12:26] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, i did that
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[12:26] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: autoremove?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: man apt-get
[12:26] <toddoon> hi everybody, i would know how do i do to disable or delete the close button in gnome window?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: theres also deborphan
[12:27] <Heliodor> Lordveda: Obviously not a problem.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: its a standard command
[12:27] <Solixa> It didn't work
[12:27] <riz0n> I'm afraid I may have to reinstall Ubuntu on this machine, which I really don't want to do.
[12:27] <Ghone> Solixia: do you have something called "Hardware Drivers" under System > Administration menu?
[12:28] <Heliodor> Nothing on the compiz themer?
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: close the terminal and open a new one
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: lspci
[12:28] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, I tried it with Konsole and xterm
[12:28] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new! Someone or anyone?
[12:28] <mib_gzbeyy9u> The X window has the normal red x as it's icon, is black, nd won't close!
[12:29] <aeosynth> how do i reinstall packages? I might need to reinstall gdm from the command line
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: can you try tab completing it. this is most unusual
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> aeosynth: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[12:29] <mib_gzbeyy9u> Please help!
[12:29] <riz0n> Hi, i have a machine with Ubuntu 8.10 (kernel 2.6.27-7-generic) that locks up on startup (At one time it did boot fine). When I do recovery mode, it hangs at EMU10K1_Audigy 0000:02:04.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17 ... what should I do on this machine to get back into Ubuntu? I am afraid I may have to reinstall the OS, which I really don't want to do if I don't absolutely have to.
[12:30] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, is not in the list
[12:30] <poncio> savvas, how do i get my "2.6.24-23" kernel back? i only have "2.6.24-22" now...
[12:30] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, any other alternatives?
[12:30] <savvas> poncio: which ubuntu release are you using?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: lshw -C display
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: i think you have a problem if lspci is not a command
[12:31] <Solixa> Probably
[12:31] <Solixa> neither is lshw
[12:31] <mib_gzbeyy9u> When I installed IceWM, I installed the thinblack2 theme. Now there is a weird X window in the top left corner that wont go away. Help, it's preventing me from logging off! I need to go back to GNOME! Please help me! I am new! Someone or anyone?
[12:31] <mib_gzbeyy9u> The X window has the normal red x as it's icon, is black, nd won't close!
[12:31] <mib_gzbeyy9u> The X window has the normal red x as it's icon, is black, nd won't close!
[12:31] <savvas> poncio: go to Applications > Accessories > Terminal and paste the output of this command: uname -a
[12:31] <mib_gzbeyy9u> Please help!
[12:31] <FloodBot1> mib_gzbeyy9u: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:32] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, What should I do?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: gimme a sec, let me see what i can find
[12:32] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, kk
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> does anyone else have a solution to missing lspci and lshw commands
[12:33] <poncio> savvas, here it is: "Linux multivac 2.6.24-22-generic #1 SMP Mon Nov 24 18:32:42 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux"
[12:33] <su1tan> Hi, anyone has working hybernate on Toshiba notebook with Ubuntu 8.10?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: are you fully up to date?
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !hibernate | su1tan
[12:34] <savvas> poncio: ok now the output of this command: lsb_release -r
[12:34] <Ghone> Solixa: I'm very curious to know what the result of:  ls /usr/bin/ls*
[12:34] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, should be. Slackware 12.2
[12:35] <su1tan> ActionParsnip, thanks for correction
[12:35] <poncio> savvas,  8.04
[12:35] <oCean_> ActionParsnip: lshw can be installed separately, I'm not sure in which package lspci is
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: this is ubuntu support, not slackware
[12:35] <Solixa> ActionParsnip, someone sent me here. Linux is linux, right?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: no otherwise there would be one BIG room labeled #linux
[12:36] <OxDeadC0de> Linux is pronounced as Linux.
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Solixa,   thers is a big rool called #linux :)
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> room
[12:36] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> and one for #slackware i imagine
[12:36] <Solixa> oh, right. /fail. This is a pretty huge room though
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: those commands are standard in ubuntu, obviously not in slackware, go head to #slackware
[12:36] <savvas> poncio: can you paste at www.pastebin.com (and give me the link) the output of: apt-cache policy linux-generic linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic
[12:36] <Solixa> #Slackware is on this server?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis_ZNC: and all linux users would be in it, inc us
[12:36] <poncio> ok
[12:37] <Dr_Willis_ZNC> Solixa,  join it and see?
[12:37] <Solixa> Just did
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Solixa: yes theres 250 people in there
[12:37] <Solixa> ;P
[12:37] <Solixa> Well, thanks guys.
[12:38] <kl0x> I'm going, when I find the app I tell ya, I had installed it before formating, but I found it casually..
[12:38] <karooga> i'm trying to use the packages on intrepid.alternative but apt-get update keeps ignoring it.  I used apt-cdrom to add to my source.list.  Any ideas what is wrong?
[12:38] <kl0x> C ya guys
[12:39] <Heliodor> Holy shit, there is a jungle of backup apps out there for linux!
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: yep and all work slightly different
[12:39] <savvas> OxDeadC0de: linux is pronounced as /ˈlɪnəks/ (IPA), but there are variations: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux/msg/53a76cbbbcb6e1c8?pli=1
[12:39] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: so i noticed.
[12:40] <poncio> savvas, it is like i told you... http://pastebin.com/m50cb9c7f i just deleted the wrong files on my /boot ...
[12:40] <thunder_> hi
[12:40] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: rsync seem to fit my needs best
[12:40] <OxDeadC0de> hahahaha savvas
[12:40] <toader> HI, how to make a file browser as the default browser?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: then install it, it is the best (for you)
[12:40] <savvas> :)
[12:40] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Indeed :)
[12:40] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: I see what you are trying to do ;)
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: it just makes you look smarter and less ignorant to other apps
[12:41] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: It does, maybe diversity is good afterall
[12:41] <XaeroOne> i have this strange problem with ubuntu, i installed it yesterday in a partition after formatting it as ext3 but was not able to install grub, so i manually added the entry to menu.lst but was not able to boot into it
[12:41] <savvas> poncio: execute this (all in one line): sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic; sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic
[12:42] <savvas> poncio: if asked something, press "Y" and hit enter :)
[12:42] <XaeroOne> when i checked from pclinux os i see that the partition is fat16
[12:42] <poncio> ok
[12:42] <poncio> i'll try it now...
[12:42] <poncio> th
[12:42] <poncio> thx
[12:42] <FloodBot1> poncio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:43] <poncio> savvas, i had already tried the "reinstall linux-generic" part... :)
[12:44] <poncio> savvas,  seems to have worked.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: i only show and demonstrate, I cannt change minds, that is for you to decide
[12:44] <poncio> savvas, thx
[12:45] <jpatota> how can i tell when a file was *created*
[12:45] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: You really try to have an open mind, dont you? :)
[12:45] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: Well, i appriciate it, a lot
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: just like trying ubuntu, you may have hated it and ran back to windows
[12:45] <nzz> Hi.  I accidentally deleted the /dev/hdb device node.  Rebooting does not bring it back.  Recreating it with mknod leads to mount saying 'mount: /dev/hdb is not a valid block device'.  How should I get my cdrom to be usable under this installation of ubuntu again?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Heliodor: but its good to try
[12:46] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip: It is. :)
[12:46] <savvas> poncio: ok, glad to hear it :)
[12:46] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: how did you delete the node?
[12:47]  * ActionParsnip is a big hippy with dreads
[12:47] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: uhm... rm.  I'd made a symlink to it, then was too tired and made a symlink the other way, then removed both since they were circular and unusuable at that point.
[12:48] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: the way i understood it, the nodes are created when linux boots. is the cd drive recognised when you boot? (cat /var/log/messages | grep -i cd)
[12:49] <nzz> all of the lines matching that are ioport/iomem ranges or usb hcd related
[12:50] <Peleus> Anyone able to get bluetooth consistently working at the moment?
[12:50] <nzz> the cdrom drive was working for more than a year, though
[12:50] <S4nD3r> How to discover which is my passphrase?? I never created this passphrase, but the system is asking me this
[12:50] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: that's strange. is it still recognised in bios?
[12:50] <nzz> any way to check without rebooting?
[12:50] <riz0n> My Ubuntu machine is locking up on startup, when doing a recovery mode it was locking up when trying to load my sound blaster live card. I took the card out and ubuntu booted just fine.. however the card seems to be working fine in XP (I dont have any speakers to verify). What could be causing ubuntu to lock up when it tries to load the drivers for the sound blaster live card?
[12:51] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: i don't think so :(
[12:51] <oCean_> nzz: what does command "eject" output? (use no options)
[12:52] <riz0n> could my live card have bit the dust?
[12:52] <nzz> eject: unable to open `/dev/hdb'
[12:52] <_moro_bana_> it there a thesaurus or electronic dictionary available under linux?
[12:52] <oCean_> nzz: ok, how does ls -al /dev/hdb look?
[12:53] <oCean_> nzz: just to make sure the block device is created correctly
[12:53] <Heliodor> Wtf, my firefox is going black now and then!
[12:53] <nzz>  ls -al /dev/hdb
[12:53] <nzz> brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 3, 64 2009-01-19 13:37 /dev/hdb
[12:54] <nzz> ........ but it only shows up that way because I did mknod, chmod, and chgrp; it doesn't show up on boot
[12:54] <howlingmadhowie> nzz:  can you eject it as root?
[12:54] <nzz> # eject
[12:54] <nzz> eject: unable to open `/dev/hdb'
[12:54] <S4nD3r> nobody understand about gpg
[12:55] <riz0n> hello, anyone getting this? am i on mute on this chan..??
[12:55] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: what command did you use to create the node?
[12:55] <dundel> i got a really slow performance on a Dell Vostro 1000
[12:55] <Ghone> Heliodor: mine does that too, mostly when it's on a page with Flash.  If you fix it please let me know how.
[12:55] <nzz> mknod -m 660 hdb b 3 64
[12:56] <oCean_> nzz: you're sure of the major/minor ?
[12:56] <riz0n> Guess I am having an issue with my IRC if nobody is able to read my messages.
[12:56] <Heliodor> Ghone: Ive never had that problem on windows or os x. This might be a linux killer for me :-(
[12:56] <lvlefisto> riz0n: we can see you, just ask your question
[12:56] <riz0n> ok thanks.
[12:56] <nzz> oCean_: it's what seems to be documented everywhere for hdb, and it's what my ubuntu machine has; what does ls -la /dev/hdb say for you?
[12:56] <riz0n> just making sure i dont have an IRC issue.
[12:56] <guu> riz0n:  ur msg are ok
[12:56] <riz0n> My Ubuntu machine is locking up on startup, when doing a recovery mode it was locking up when trying to load my sound blaster live card. I took the card out and ubuntu booted just fine.. however the card seems to be working fine in XP (I dont have any speakers to verify). What could be causing ubuntu to lock up when it tries to load the drivers for the sound blaster live card? could my live card have finally bit the dust?
[12:57] <oCean_> nzz: I have a scsi drive, so it's /dev/sdc0
[12:57] <nzz2> ahh
[12:57] <nzz2> anyone else?
[12:57] <bender304> does anyone know if there is a IRC client that would play a audio (wav) when your name is entered in the chat room to get your attention?
[12:57] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: where did you get the numbers 3 and 64 from?
[12:57] <Pici> bender304: I believe that xchat can do that.
[12:58] <lvlefisto> bender304: pidgin also does that
[12:58] <bender304> thanks Pici
[12:58] <nzz2> howlingmadhowie: my ubuntu install, google, and some documentation file under the kernel sources that I'm now forgetting the name of
[12:58] <riz0n> i am not sure if mIRC does that or not, if it does then you might can try mIRC through Wine
[12:58] <nzz2> erm, my debian install, even
[12:58] <jxander> help! i cannot start gnome-session and i get the error: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SessionManager . Any ideas?
[12:58] <nzz2> howlingmadhowie: what does ls -l /dev/hdb say for you?
[12:59] <Ghone> Heliodor: Are you on an x86_64 machine?  Flash can be a bit craptastic on 64-bit.
[12:59] <bender304> lvlefisto I'll check that out Im using Pidgin now
[12:59] <jynks> hi guys.... woudl i please be able to get some help in getting fusesmb to work so i can acess my windows netwrok shares?
[12:59] <Heliodor> Ghone: Im on 64-bit yes, but there is no flash on any of the pages i have open right now
[12:59] <lvlefisto> bender304: look at the plugins to enable that behavior
[12:59] <Heliodor> Ghone: Still, it goes black
[12:59] <howlingmadhowie> nzz2: the numbers are allocated dynamically when the kernel boots. on my system: stefan-laptop% ls -l /dev/scd0
[12:59] <howlingmadhowie> brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-01-19 10:22 /dev/scd0
[13:00] <lvlefisto> bender304: and also at the preferences
[13:00] <karooga> anyone used apt-cdrom?
[13:00] <karooga> anyone used it successfully I mean?
[13:00] <mib_kbfmgqbv> hi
[13:00] <jynks> i have fusesmb installed and enabled for my usr... now what... i tried makign a dir in media and then mounting it but it says i have no permition to cd into it?
[13:01] <FrauHansen> can somebody look at this init.d script and tell me why the language setting are ignored? like LC_MESSAGES is still english for this program when it loads via this script at boot -> http://pastebin.com/m37b2244b
[13:01] <Heliodor> Ghone: Seem to be a drawing bug with compiz..... typical!
[13:01] <Ghone> Heliodor: try running the command "killall npviewer.bin" and see if it behaves for a while.
[13:01] <nzz> ok, yes, my bios seems my cdrom drive; it's the primary IDE slave
[13:01] <oCean_> nzz: the major #3 = ide hdd or cd indeed. 64 is slave
[13:02] <S4nD3r> help
[13:02] <nzz> oCean_: exactly :/
[13:03] <xyz> have anyone tried Jaunty?
[13:03] <jynks> i've tried it using the eact cammands in the faq but it dosn't work?
[13:03] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: have a look in /sys/block
[13:04] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: there you'll find the current devices with major and minor device nodes
[13:04] <jelly12gen> xyz why don't you try jaunty in virtualbox?
[13:04] <nzz> ram[0-9] and sda; that's all
[13:04] <xyz> jelly12gen, omg explain that to me please?!
[13:05] <xyz> I didnt realize this idea...
[13:05] <xyz> sorry for my bad english
[13:05] <nzz> actually, raw1[0-5] , but that doesn't change much
[13:05] <nzz> erm, ram, not raw
[13:05] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: mm. then i think that means that you won't be able to create a cd node
[13:05] <Jack_Sparrow> xyz, Please talk all on one line and not broken up with the enter ley
[13:05]  * nzz spends a moment pining for the pre-udev days
[13:06] <mib_kbfmgqbv> hi
[13:06] <digitalfallacy> \ns identify
[13:06] <Peleus> anyone know how we can fix up bluetooth in ubuntu? Every restart or hibernate my mouse stops working
[13:06] <xyz> Jack_Sparrow, Im sorry ok... How Can i make this work in virtualbox?
[13:06] <jelly12gen> xyz: you just sound a bit like a noob now
[13:06] <xyz> jelly12gen, sorry im noobish.......
[13:06] <quake> hello this is irc client 1.0
[13:06] <jrib> Peleus: a workaround is usually to remove the kernel module responsible and load it again
[13:06] <Jack_Sparrow> xyz, Install virtualbox from the repos and install your choice of os inside it
[13:07] <mib_kbfmgqbv> anybody here interested to atten UDW?
[13:07] <jrib> !ot | mib_kbfmgqbv
[13:07] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: you could try inserting the cdrom module again
[13:07] <jelly12gen> xyz: everyone has been a noob, so it's not a problem :) , but just instal virtualbox and google for a howto
[13:07] <mib_kbfmgqbv> thanx ubottu
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> xyz, You may also /join #vbox
[13:08] <jelly12gen> !google virtualbox ubuntu
[13:08] <mib_kbfmgqbv> jrib:didnt understand
[13:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !info virtualbox-ose
[13:09] <xyz> Jack_Sparrow, jelly12gen many thanks
[13:09] <Jack_Sparrow> xyz sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[13:09] <jxander> anyone having problems starting gnome-session?
[13:09] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: hm..... ok, dumb question, what's the module named?
[13:09] <xyz> Okay !
[13:09] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: cdrom :)
[13:10] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: try an 'lsmod | grep cdrom' to start with
[13:10] <nzz> it hadn't been loaded
[13:10] <jelly12gen> jxander: does it give errors, so yes google it:)
[13:10] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: 'sudo modprobe cdrom'
[13:10] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: but you may want to delete the nodes you made before you do that
[13:10] <nzz> yeah; that's what i'd done first; on not finding it, I thought it must have an odd name
[13:10] <nzz> loaded
[13:10] <nzz> nothing new in /sys/block, though
[13:11] <nzz> they were deleted when i rebooted (to check the bios) anyhow
[13:11] <jxander> jelly12gen: i already googled it, but haven't found a solution :(... it says: "Failed to acquire org.gnome.SessionManager"
[13:11] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: what does /var/log/messages have to say?
[13:11] <jelly12gen> jxander: so you can't start gnome?
[13:11] <nzz> nothing in the last 8 minutes
[13:11] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: can you put a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' in one shell window and then remove and insert the module again?
[13:11] <Heliodor> Hum, this is odd, torrents are a lot faster in ubuntu than in windows or os x
[13:12] <nzz> Uniform CD-ROM driver unloaded
[13:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Heliodor, I would suspect poor support for your network chipset
[13:12] <nzz> (nothing appeared when i reloaded it)
[13:12] <howlingmadhowie> Heliodor: i suspect that many isps block certain clients. which torrent software are you using?
[13:12] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: mm. this sounds strange :(
[13:12] <jxander> jelly12gen: thanks, nvm... works now...
[13:12] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: That might be completely true.
[13:12] <jelly12gen> lol ok
[13:13] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: since im using deluge now.
[13:13] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: tell me about it :/
[13:13] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: and utorrent on both os x and windows
[13:13] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: can you boot from the cdrom drive?
[13:13] <nzz> i've been using linux for a decade :/
[13:13] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: but transmission was terribly slow in both ubuntu and os x so...
[13:13] <nzz> will check
[13:13] <howlingmadhowie> Heliodor: my isp kicks me out if i start vuze :(
[13:13] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: What?!! thats terrible!
[13:14] <savvas> Heliodor: I've witnessed even faster speeds with aria2c command (aria downloader, command line) and much more stable internet browsing while downloading from torrents
[13:14] <howlingmadhowie> Heliodor: yeah :( rtorrent is better anyway, but i should have the choice :(
[13:15] <Heliodor> howlingmadhowie: Indeed! I commonly use a VPN to avoid those problems.
[13:15] <Heliodor> Heliodor: Perfect-privacy.com is a really good one, always good speeds.
[13:17] <Chilired> anyone know whats the problem when an ftp server brings up Refused Port (address mismatch)?
[13:17] <howlingmadhowie> Heliodor: i'll have a look :) thanks for the tip
[13:18] <herr_fisk> port forward problem in router?
[13:18] <Chilired> its inside the lan
[13:18] <herr_fisk> ah ok
[13:19] <Itaku> what would be a chmod code for people can view in the folder but not its subfolders?
[13:19] <Chilired> herr_fisk, I am trying to transfer some huge files from one nas to another via fxp on this workstation
[13:19] <nzz> Itaku: you need to make sure all the subfolders don't have read permissions for those people
[13:19] <herr_fisk> ok. Shure ip-tables not configured to block port 21?
[13:19] <lokekiero> alguien en español
[13:20] <Peleus> is there any way to view your vista partition (and run a video from it) from linux?
[13:20] <Itaku> is there any quick way nzz? because thats 1276 folders your talking about
[13:20] <nzz> find your_dir -type d -exec chmod o-r {} \;
[13:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[13:20] <Chilired> no I can connect to both the ftp servers
[13:20] <Itaku> nzz? what?
[13:20] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: yes, I can boot from cd
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Peleus, It should not be a problem
[13:21] <lokekiero> alguien en español
[13:21] <pablo__> [lokekiero] , #ubuntu-es
[13:21] <nzz> Itaku: ok, so, the directory you want is called 'your_dir' in my example; substitute it with /path/to/whatever/it/is/really/called
[13:21] <Jack_Sparrow> lokekiero, /join #Ubuntu-es
[13:21] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: mm. that means the drive exists and works. i have no idea why it isn't being seen by ubuntu. could you try installing the kernel again?
[13:22] <herr_fisk> ok. then it beats me :( sry
[13:22] <Itaku> would i just type like chmod 0664 /cygdrive/c/Abyss Web Server/htdocs/foldername/*?
[13:22] <nzz> the above command finds all of the directories under that directory, and then says, for each of those directories, to run chmod o-r on that directory, which sets the 'others' permission to no longer be able to read
[13:22] <Gobby> question when im out youtube the video sometimes turns out gray and i cant fix it i can sometimes by refreshing what should i do?
[13:22] <lokekiero> alguien en español
[13:22] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: have you tried a makedev -n ?
[13:23] <nzz> Itaku: that would make *all the files* and directories user-readable/writable, group-readable/writable, and other-readable; it's not what you want
[13:23] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: yes, doesn't work with udev
[13:23] <Cyber_Hades> Swap partition should be logical or primary ?
[13:23] <Itaku> nzz: i know im not good with the chmod codes
[13:23] <nzz> Cyber_Hades: doesn't matter
[13:23] <Gobby> question when im out youtube the video sometimes turns out gray and i cant fix it i can sometimes by refreshing what should i do?
[13:23] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: oh :(
[13:24] <nzz> Itaku: uhm, presumably you want the files in the directory to be readable, right?
[13:24] <Cyber_Hades> What is the diffrence betwen logical and primary partiton ???
[13:24] <aftertaf> 4 logical maxi
[13:24] <aftertaf> or 3 + 1 extended
[13:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Cyber_Hades, Logicals are inside extended to increase the limit of 4 primary
[13:24] <nzz> Cyber_Hades: ugly history; you can only have 4 primary partitions, so extended partitions are a hack to let you have more
[13:24] <aftertaf> and an extended can have many logical disks in it
[13:24] <Itaku> nzz: i just want them to see the many folders, but not be able to go in them
[13:25] <Gobby> question when im out youtube the video sometimes turns out gray and i cant fix it i can sometimes by refreshing what should i do?
[13:25] <mib_kbfmgqbv> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[13:25] <Itaku> because im putting this on a webserver
[13:25] <aftertaf> msdos partition table
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Gobby, Hold down the repeats, every few minutes is plenty
[13:25] <nzz> Itaku: ah, and there are no files that you care about?
[13:25] <Itaku> nzz: theres no files in the folder at all
[13:25] <Gobby> Sorry didnt understand hold down the repeats?
[13:25] <Cyber_Hades> ok i understand now BIG THANKS
[13:25] <Itaku> just 1276 folders
[13:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Gobby, Stop repeating so often
[13:25] <nzz> Itaku: then what you said is ok, as long as you do 660 and not 664
[13:26] <Gobby> sorry
[13:26] <howlingmadhowie> nzz: then i really don't know why a cdrom device node isn't being created during boot :(
[13:26] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: me neither
[13:26] <Itaku> how do you paste into cygwin?
[13:26] <epscylonb> hey anyone know if i can use three monitors, two on a graphics card and one plugged into the motherboards vga ?
[13:26] <nzz> step 1: use a decent shell, not the default one :-P
[13:27] <Itaku> meh i just used the lazy way
[13:27] <Itaku> nzz: im on windows :)
[13:27] <nzz> epscylonb: in theory, I think you can
[13:27] <nzz> Itaku: I realize; the cygwin was a sort of big clue ;-)
[13:27] <aftertaf> hey :)
[13:27] <aftertaf> how can I change the boot options on a live CD i'm customising?
[13:27] <digitalfallacy> can somebody telll me the cahnnel for kde plz ??
[13:27] <aftertaf> i want to remove the splash
[13:27] <sambagirl> wow what a big big day :) a new president!!! :)
[13:27] <Itaku> nzz: i did 0660 and theyre still go inable(cant think of a better word)
[13:27] <pozic> How do I enable tmpfs for /tmp (and why isn't this done by default on laptops)?
[13:28] <JMS32> Hello. HAve some trubles with Sony Vaio SZ7RVN/x >
[13:28] <JMS32> ?
[13:28] <Itaku> sec ill try 0700
[13:28] <nzz> Itaku: confirm for me: are you shelled into a unix machine somewhere, or are you running chmod on your files on windows?
[13:28] <Itaku> nope, still go inable
[13:28] <Jack_Sparrow> aftertaf, On a regular install you would remove splash from the grub menu
[13:28] <marko-_-> digitalfallacy, did you tried #kde ? o_0
[13:28] <epscylonb> yeh, i think its possible, problem is the only videocard hardy can see at the moment is the graphics card, i think i need to add the motherboard as a second videocard in my xorg.conf
[13:28] <aftertaf> Itaku: consultable ?
[13:28] <aftertaf> Jack_Sparrow: yep, but no /boot/grub/menu.lst on the live cd .
[13:28] <epscylonb> anyone have any ideas ?
[13:29] <Itaku> nzz: im running my files on windows but no difference
[13:29] <nzz> Itaku: uhm, yes, it does make a difference
[13:29] <sambagirl> i was told that president obama is going to make an executive order requiring everyone to use Ubuntu ;)
[13:29] <Itaku> the access codes are still the same right?
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> aftertaf, Understood, but you need to work on remastering it yourself.. this is ubuntu support
[13:29] <epscylonb> i think thats unlikely sambagirl
[13:29] <Itaku> !offtopic > sambagirl
[13:29] <aftertaf> i know :=)
[13:29] <nzz> Itaku: uhm.  No, use a tool for managing windows file permissions
[13:29] <howlingmadhowie> sambagirl: i doubt he'll go that far :) but he is interested in file format standards
[13:30] <Itaku> d(-_-)b
[13:30] <sambagirl> thank god we have a real president!
[13:30] <nzz> the whole system of permissions is extremely different between unix and windows
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > sambagirl   But I agree
[13:30] <howlingmadhowie> sambagirl: have a look here: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Obama-Voices-Support-for-ODF/
[13:30] <marko-_-> just another puppet
[13:30] <eolo999> hi, i had a partially broken hd with freebsd on it, i then installed ubuntu on a fresh HD. ubu is on a sata bus while bsd is on ide1. I think i installed grub on the bsd disk so if i remove it i get a "boot disk failure"...someone can guide me to resolve this issue?
[13:30] <digitalfallacy> and whats the best irc client in your oopinion ?? i am using leadchat adn not very satisfied with it ... plz tell me some other than xchat
[13:30] <jxander> i tried the awn faq method of editing gconf to remove gnome-panel, but gnome-panel keeps restarting (intrepid). how could i stop gnome-panel from starting?
[13:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !polls
[13:31] <Heliodor> I get no fucking sound on the video players!! but in any other app, what now!!
[13:31] <sambagirl> thank god we have a new world president :D
[13:31] <marko-_-> !language > Heliodor
[13:31] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: by the way - on the livecd, /dev/hdb looks identical with ls as to how it did after i did mknod and chgrp under my normal install :(
[13:31] <nemesissss> hi
[13:32] <sambagirl> obama will make linux easier! it is part of his platform! :)
[13:32] <marko-_-> dreamer
[13:32] <Itaku> lol
[13:36] <nzz> hm - for anyone who has an ide cdrom and is running 2.6.27-9-generic, is ide-cd loaded according to lsmod?
[13:39] <Eutychus> hello again.
[13:39] <bullgard4> Does GNOME dodge the term 'file type association' and uses anther term instead?
[13:39] <mib_kbfmgqbv> Eutychus: hi
[13:39] <Eutychus> the ubiquity failed and now i just have a black screen with a red X for a cursor. what do i do to get out?
[13:42] <Aberration> Hey! I need some help to reduce my jack's XRUNS in ubuntu Intrepid with an USB soundcard. I did all the thing I knew (jack's in realtime, I forces 16 bit, I choosed the 48000Hz/3 period setting).... Any help would be very appreciated!
[13:42] <churl> help!  i was running compiz, i deleted it, now my windows dont have borders anymore, (this was fixed by reloading compiz)  im not sure what to manually run to bring this back up.  (happy birthday to me!!)
[13:43] <CaMason> Anyone know how to disable line-wrap with the 'less' command?
[13:43] <Jack_Sparrow> churl, To Reset your Compiz Settings to default: Open a terminal and type compiz --replace cpp &
[13:44] <Kalamot> hello, I need help with my sound card
[13:44] <Kalamot> I have a Intel ICH5 but no sound output, can anyone help me ?
[13:44] <alexb2283> i'm trying to reinstall a kernel on a chrooted server (finnix livecd)  with a crypted rootfs, theoretically everything looks good, but cryptsetup bails with "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab -" and won't do it's magic to get the fs decrypted on boot
[13:44] <Aberration> Kalamot	did you try to type "alsamixer" in a terminal?
[13:45] <Aberration> Kalamot	or : more simply double click the gnome sound applet
[13:45] <Kalamot> yes I did
[13:45] <Aberration> Kalamot	you put all the stuff up?
[13:45] <Kalamot> everythin ix maxed out and not mutted
[13:45] <churl> Jack_Sparrow: ive uninstalled compiz, should i reinstall it to fix this issue?
[13:46] <churl> Jack_Sparrow: (compiz not found)
[13:46] <Aberration> Kalamot oki doki... try to install "pavucontrol" thanks to synaptic
[13:46] <Kalamot> most of it was already up i just tryed other possibilities too
[13:46] <alexb2283> i just realized that wasn't really a question.... anyway. does anyone know how to make cryptsetup recognize the crypttab (which looks good by the way)
[13:46] <Aberration> Kalamot it'll show you all the audio streams and where they lead
[13:47] <Jack_Sparrow> churl, Sounds like you lost window decorations. you can try metacity --replace
[13:47] <Kalamot> ok will do that and get back to you
[13:47] <naelphin5> Sound has stopped working. Ubuntu 8.10 amd64. IT is shown as HDA Intel  ALC888.
 just type in alsamixer into terminal
[13:47] <naelphin5> System/pref/sound test just results in random static being played.
[13:47] <Aberration> ja660k	he did that already ^^
[13:48] <ja660k> oh, my mistake
[13:48] <churl> Jack_Sparrow: didnt work (just ran metacity --replace in terminal)
[13:48] <ataeyan> @ataeyan
[13:48] <zoobab> test
[13:48] <nzz> Jack_Sparrow: Do you have an IDE cdrom drive?
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> churl, install compiz and try again
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> nzz, NOt on this box but others ..yes
[13:48] <Jack_Sparrow> brb  busy
[13:49] <naelphin5> If I turn it to OSS I get sound, but only from one app a time :/
[13:49] <churl> Jack_Sparrow: on my way, wish me luck!
[13:50] <naelphin5> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
[13:51] <naelphin5> what aplay-l shows up
[13:51] <leon_> anyone know, how to clone a terminal session?
[13:51] <nzz> define clone, and which terminal?
[13:52] <leon_> I ssh to a server,  i want to clone a term window with same session
[13:53] <nzz> again: what do you mean? have another terminal that shows the same thing, updating at the same time, etc?
[13:53] <ja660k> i think he wants 2 ssh open
[13:53] <leon_> nzz, you have used SecureCRT on windows?
[13:53] <leon_> ja660k,  you r right.
[13:54] <nzz> howlingmadhowie: you were right, it was a kernel thing; there's no ide-cd.ko for 2.6.27-9-generic on my machine; with 2.6.24-21-generic, there is, and I get a /dev/hdb accordingly
[13:54] <nzz> leon_: uhm, yeah, briefly, about 9 years ago
[13:54] <SlimeyPete> leon_: just open another terminal and another ssh session...
[13:54] <Kalamot> Aberration I am back everything is installed
[13:55] <Kalamot> also http://paste.ubuntu.com/106930/ might help ?
[13:55] <SlimeyPete> you can't just clone an SSH session in the same way as CRT lets you, because gnome-terminal is a general terminal i.e. it isn't focussed on SSH.
[13:55] <leon_> SlimeyPete,  but another need to me logon again, it is complex...
[13:55] <SlimeyPete> so use an ssh key file
[13:56] <jrib> leon_: why don't you use screen?
[13:56] <SlimeyPete> leon_: http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/
[13:56] <leon_> SlimeyPete,  i have a dyamic password. a new logon operate is very complex
[13:56] <SlimeyPete> 's a good alternative
[13:57] <SlimeyPete> just install screen on the server if you can, then SSH in once and run screen, then manage your terminal sessions using screen.
[13:57] <dapratsta> hey
[13:57] <Kalamot> Hmm I guess aberration is gone, anyone else can help me ?
[13:57] <jrib> Kalamot: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[13:57] <leon_> SlimeyPete, is very complex for me.....
[13:57] <dapratsta> i need a hand installing Ubunut desktop?
[13:57] <jrib> leon_: screen is not complex... have you tried it?
[13:57] <nzz> wb, Jack_Sparrow - my problem ended up being that the newest kernel, 2.6.27-9-generic, doesn't have an ide-cd.ko module; I booted into .24 and it works.
[13:57] <jrib> dapratsta: be more specific
[13:58] <leon_> yes , i try it , i puzzle it
[13:58] <erUSUL> !details | dapratsta
[13:58] <jrib> !screen | leon_
[13:58] <jrib> leon_: those are good intros
[13:58] <Kalamot> hello, I need help with my sound card,I have a Intel ICH5 but no sound output, can anyone help me ? also this might help http://paste.ubuntu.com/106930/
[13:58] <dapratsta> i get to the Ubuntu menu, with Try Ubuntu, Install, etc, i enter on Install and it loads up to a brown/orange screen and stops
[13:59] <jrib> dapratsta: did you run "verify the integrity of the cd" from the cd's boot menu?
[13:59] <dapratsta> no, its a factory disc from Ubuntu.com, a physcial disc delivered this morning
[13:59] <leon_> jrgp,  i can not use screen on server , It is security control server. i can not access it.
[13:59] <D0minus> dapratsta ... use alternate image of ubuntu
[14:00] <dapratsta> DOminus: ive tried
[14:00] <nzz> leon_: you use screen on *your* computer
[14:00] <jrib> nzz: no, he needs to use it on the server
[14:00] <alexb2283> i'm trying to reinstall a kernel on a chrooted server (finnix livecd)  with a crypted rootfs, theoretically everything looks good, but cryptsetup bails with "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab -" and won't do it's magic to get the fs decrypted on boot. any ideas ?
[14:00] <nzz> jrib: ah
[14:01] <nzz> alexb2283: confirm that the line actually isn't invalid?
[14:01] <leon_> nzz,  there is a x terminal  can be cloned?
[14:01] <alexb2283> nzz: no whitespaces, two lines, all clean
[14:01] <nzz> leon_: I genuinely do not know
[14:01] <alexb2283> nzz: that came out wrong. whitespaces where appropriate. no blank lines i mean
[14:01] <ja660k> maybe xterm
[14:02] <nzz> alexb2283: does it work on another machine/setup?
[14:02] <Ghone> dapratsta: what happens if you try the alternate install?
[14:02] <leon_> nzz, i got a critical problem.
[14:02] <ja660k> leon_: actually im pretty sure its xterm... i just dont know how
[14:02] <nzz> leon_: unfortunately, I neither understand your problem, nor have a solution
[14:02] <dapratsta> Ghone: same thing
[14:03] <leon_> nzz, thank you.
[14:03] <nzz> leon_: sorry :(
[14:04] <alexb2283> nzz: everything worked on this machine until i "accidentally" purged the running kernel and installed another one which wasn't bootable. nothing has changed from the configuration perspective, but i'm forced to reinstall the proper kernel through a livecd (since the installed system won't boot anymore)
[14:04] <ronny> hi
[14:04] <tr3nd> How do I install nvidia drivers for my 8600 GT for Ubuntu 8.10 (x64)?
[14:04] <jrib> tr3nd: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[14:04] <erUSUL> tr3nd: Systrem>Admin>Hardware Drivers
[14:04] <ronny> i got a weitd issue with gstreamer based apps, they stop playback of mp3 streams after each song with a error
[14:04] <alexb2283> nzz: i'm chrooted in the installed system and have the basics mounted (/proc /sys /dev /boot) -- the apt-get install for the new kernel works, except for cryptsetup
[14:05] <D0minus> install system / administrator / driver hardware
[14:05] <nzz> alexb2283 - hm.  Odd :/
[14:05] <D0minus> use last release of driver
[14:05] <schubby> gellen
[14:05] <schubby> gellen
[14:05] <ormecuro> can somebody help me about installing ati graphic card on ubuntu 8.10
[14:05] <tr3nd> Those drivers doesn't seem to work.
[14:05] <jrib> !doesn't work | tr3nd
[14:06] <D0minus> tr3nd .... get driver  www.nvidia.com
[14:06] <ronny> anyone got an idea?
[14:06] <D0minus> last driver for linux
[14:06] <tr3nd> i tried
[14:06] <alexb2283> nzz: http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8725/119200930530pmdn1.png
[14:06] <robert85> tr3nd which driver version are you trying to use with this card as mine works fine
[14:06] <squirt33> Is there a GTK theming channel around anywhere?
[14:06] <tr3nd> robert85, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.22/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.22-pkg2.run this one
[14:07] <robert85> with either driver and i have the same card but one did give me some issues that the other didn't
[14:07] <H0rA> ronny: do you have problems with pulseuadio?
[14:07] <ronny> H0rA: seems to work fine, any way to test to be sure i dont have some weird issue?
[14:07] <tr3nd> robert85, how do i install that?
[14:08] <H0rA> ronny: please run: gstreamer-properties and test if your audio setting is ok.
[14:08] <nzz> alexb2283: hm - can you use boot the server without a livecd after, or not?
[14:09] <dmsuperm1n> I can't connect to any wireless networks. My Acer Aspire 4530 has an "Atheros AR928X Wireless adapter", and I'm running 64bit. Any ideas? Wired works.
[14:09]  * oCean_ finally got sound working on gf new laptop :)
[14:09] <H0rA> ronny: sometimes pulseaudio hangs. and you dont have sounds. you can switch to alsa to test.
[14:09] <robert85> tr3nd why are you trying to install it this way --> use the already disscussed method System menu, Administration, Hardware Drivers
[14:09] <ronny> H0rA: works fine with both, pulse and alsa
[14:10] <robert85> tr3nd then select the newer driver version 177
[14:10] <H0rA> ronny: with apps do you use?
[14:10] <ronny> tried with rythmbox, totem
[14:11] <alexb2283> nzz: humm ? the kernel won't boot if i leave it like that
[14:11] <tr3nd> robert85, i did, but apps are still slow when i open them
[14:11] <ronny> works fine with audacious (wich afair does not use gst)
[14:11] <alexb2283> nzz: it complains about a missing root device (the rootfs never gets decrypted and therefore never shows up)
[14:11] <H0rA> ronny: we need some logs. without it's not easy to help you.
[14:12] <robert85> tr3nd what do you mean apps are slow when starting, which apps etc,
[14:12] <H0rA> ronny: usually it should work on a clean ubuntu installation.
[14:13] <tr3nd> robert85, firefox, terminal, everything... i dont think those drivers are working in hardware drivers. i want to install the one from the nvidia website but have no idea how to run that file
[14:13] <robert85> tr3nd - have you enabled Compiz at all this is mainly only candy though
[14:13] <churl> Jack_Sparrow: had to rm * my .cache/session
[14:13] <dapratsta> anyone know why my Ubuntu doesnt finish installing? gets to brown/orange screen; stops, then reboots after a couple hours
[14:13] <tr3nd> robert85,  no i haven't
[14:13] <ronny> H0rA: how can i log that stuff?
[14:14] <H0rA> ronny: example. run rhythmbox in the console. and you will see the errors.
[14:15] <yakuz> !brokenmsn
[14:15] <Jack_Sparrow> yakuz, Are you having issues with msn
[14:16] <robert85> tr3nd - open term and change directory to the directory where you have saved the downloaded driver
[14:16] <yakuz> I just installed ubuntu and before I created an account in pidgin i did "sudo apt-get install msn-pecan" but I don't have type wlm in the list. Why?
[14:16] <tr3nd> robert85, ok
[14:16] <robert85> tr3nd once there Sudo su and ur admin password
[14:16] <su1tan> !hibernate | su1tan
[14:16] <ronny> H0rA: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/100366/ <- whats what i get on startup, very weird
[14:16] <robert85> so you will execute the following as root
[14:16] <Jack_Sparrow> robert85, Please dont suggest sudo su
[14:17] <tr3nd> robert85,  ok
[14:17] <yakuz> Jack_Sparrow: on another computer I used msn before it broke and then did the msn-pecan thing and It added WLM but not on the fresh install.
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> robert85, Sudo SU: Instead of Sudo SU...  Please use sudo -i it properly sets up the environment variable in the resulting shell.
[14:17] <Jack_Sparrow> tr3nd, See above please
[14:17] <tr3nd> whats the difference
[14:18] <robert85> "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-180.22-pkg2.run" or you can get away with "sh NVIDIA*.run"
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> yakuz, WHat version numbers,  the newer one will have an issue from what I remember
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tr3nd,  Sudo SU: Instead of Sudo SU...  Please use sudo -i it properly sets up the environment variable in the resulting shell.
[14:18] <yakuz> Jack_Sparrow: 2.5.2 , not the newest
[14:19] <squirt33> #winehq
[14:19] <robert85> tr3nd the difference has to do with security issues and dangers to the rest of your system and jack is correct it is not the suggested method
[14:19] <H0rA> ronny: i just google a bit and got some pages with this error message. maybe kernel problem.
[14:19] <dublpaws> given a text file listing a _slew_ of packages in the form pack1\npack2\n... is there apt-get switch to read the file and install them all?
[14:19] <tr3nd> robert85, You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before    installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING   THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver   download page at www.nvidia.com.
[14:19] <tr3nd> i get this error
[14:19] <FloodBot1> tr3nd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <robert85> His method is a better one all together
[14:19] <ronny> H0rA: twisted is a weird python lib (on my peronal hate list)
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> yakuz, were you able to install pecan?
[14:19] <H0rA> ronny: i search with this string: Rhythmbox-WARNING **: Could not open device /dev/radio0
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> robert85, ty
[14:20] <yakuz> Jack_Sparrow: maybe I need to make apt-get update first?
[14:20] <ronny> H0rA: i have no tuners, so that looks ok
[14:20] <Jack_Sparrow> yakuz, cant hurt
[14:20] <tr3nd> robert85, i got error about x server
[14:20] <H0rA> ronny: it seems a big problem. i can't help you now. good luck.
[14:20] <squirt33> Package installer is frozen in the middle of an install!
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !info msn-pecan
[14:21] <yakuz> Jack_Sparrow: it worked out..
[14:21] <yakuz> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[14:21] <Jack_Sparrow> yakuz, no problem
[14:21] <silv3r_m00n> hi there .. i am looking for some graphics software for linx
[14:22] <sdfjhjk> !list
[14:22] <silv3r_m00n> apart from gimp and krita
[14:22] <tr3nd> robert85, what should i do next?
[14:22] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: image retouching ?
[14:22] <dublpaws> silv3r_m00n: inkscape
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> sdfjhjk, We dont have files for you
[14:22] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: you know graphic software is a broad term
[14:22] <squirt33> Package installer is frozen in the middle of an install! What do I do?
[14:22] <dublpaws> a nice vector prog in the vein of adobe illustrator
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Wait
[14:22] <silv3r_m00n> erUSUL: a photoshop alternative or may be something like gimp which allows for drawing shapes and resizing them easily
[14:23] <Jack_Sparrow> silv3r_m00n, gimpshop  but you will need to find that on your own
[14:23] <erUSUL> silv3r_m00n: well a vector graphics software con do that inkscape or xaraxl
[14:23] <robert85> tr3nd - have you downloaded http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nvidia-xconfig/nvidia-xconfig-1.0.tar.gz
[14:24] <tr3nd> robert85, yes
[14:24] <silv3r_m00n> Jack_Sparrow: gimshop is not there or i didnt get the right version for ubuntu 8.04   ...
[14:24] <paul68> hi I when connecting my laptop at work I'm behind a proxy however when I am at home I work without a proxy, is there a way to create a script that connect my laptop at work through the proxy and when working at home without proxy?
[14:24] <robin0800> dublpaws: Blender is a 3d modeling program in the vein of 3D Studio Max and Maya but ... that rivals Adobe Illustrator in terms of both functionality and features. ...
[14:24] <dublpaws> robin0800: not sure what you're getting at
[14:25] <H0rA> ronny: i just read, that some guys had this problem after upgrade to kernel 2.6.27-9. One guy installed intrepid completely new and it worked again.
[14:25] <marta_> hello
[14:26] <paul68> !hi|marta_
[14:26] <marta_> thanks
[14:26] <ubuntu__> hello
[14:26] <robin0800> dublpaws: Blender is a linux application ......this from a google search using your phrase
[14:26] <marta_> Hi paul
[14:26] <H0rA> !hi|H0rA
[14:27] <paul68> BlueEagle: happy new year my friend how are you?
[14:27] <ronny> H0rA: hmk, backup nightmare for me ;P
[14:27] <dublpaws> robin0800: using blender for 2D illustration would be like amputating an arm and eating it for lunch.
[14:28] <H0rA> ronny: why? i always backup with partimage before i upgrade my system. it is easy.
[14:28] <paul68> hi when connecting my laptop at work I'm behind a proxy however when I am at home I work without a proxy, is there a way to create a script that connect my laptop at work through the proxy and when working at home without proxy?
[14:29] <tr3nd> Anyone know how to install Nvidia drivers for Ubuntu 8.10 x64
[14:29] <ronny> H0rA: dell factory partitoning, ie root + home on the same partition
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[14:29] <jrib> tr3nd: I told you, use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers...
[14:29] <etech> hi, is there 64bit ubuntu faster than the 32bit ubuntu?
[14:30] <tr3nd> jrib, i want to install from the website
[14:30] <jrib> tr3nd: why?  It's better to use the repositories
[14:30] <etech> in system respon(when clicking ...)
[14:30] <ronny> Jack_Sparrow: i grew to a few hundred gigabytes
[14:30] <Heliodor> etech: not faster, but it can handle more memory.
[14:30] <H0rA> ronny: ah. ok. it's a good idea to sepperate your home folder to a new partition.
[14:30] <squirt33> Package installer had been rozen for multiple minutes now, and I can't force quit. What now?
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> etech, Not by much, easier for you to use 32 unless you need to use more than 4 gigs of ram
[14:30] <tr3nd> jrib: because its better
[14:30] <jrib> squirt33: what is it installing?
[14:30] <etech> so the working feeling is the same?
[14:30] <jrib> tr3nd: correct, repositories are better, so use them
[14:31] <etech> i have 2gb ram
[14:31] <Heliodor> etech: yes, but things are missing, like java plugin
[14:31] <tr3nd> jrib: no, i want to run the file on the website
[14:31] <jrib> tr3nd: better and *easier*
[14:31] <ronny> H0rA: i know, i just was in a rush when i got the laptop
[14:31] <etech> ok
[14:31] <jrib> !nvidia > tr3nd
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> etech, 32 bit
[14:31] <failfailtroll> kick me i is a troll
[14:31] <ronny> and once the mess is done migration is HELL
[14:31] <jrib> tr3nd: read what ubottu sent you then
[14:31] <failfailtroll> kick kick kick kick
[14:31] <ronny> hmm
[14:31] <H0rA> ronny: i know this problem :) we are always in rush ;-)
[14:32] <squirt33> jrib: A wine package (older - there is a regression) and the system doesn't even see it. This also happened while trying to install gnomenu (they have current complied packages).
[14:32] <paul68> is it possible to create a script that connects me automaticly to the proxy server at work and to my normal internet connection at home (without proxy) and if so how to do it
[14:32] <jrib> squirt33: what do you mean "the system doesn't even see it"?
[14:33] <silv3r_m00n> will a .deb debian package run fine in ubuntu ?
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> paul68, Writing custom scripts for things like that are beyond the scope of this support channel.. perhaps /join #bash
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !debian
[14:33] <jrib> silv3r_m00n: not necessarily.  Use the ubuntu repositories
[14:33] <paul68> Jack_Sparrow: thanks
[14:33] <squirt33> jrib: Not showing up using ps aux or the system manager (package installer running as a process).
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:33] <burkmat> !cluster
[14:33] <jrib> squirt33: what do you see on your screen now?
[14:34] <squirt33> A greyed out packe installer and a ungrayed out 'installing package file" that has it's progress bar frozen and is totally unresponsive.
[14:34] <CyL> I can't type local characters on Ubunt, how do I make this work?
[14:35] <Peleus> Hi all, I've installed scrible but decided I don't like it, what's the command to uninstall it? (used sudo aptitude install scribble to get it on)
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Is this a fresh install
[14:35] <squirt33> Cyl: Try language support in the adminstration menu
[14:35] <jrib> Peleus: sudo aptitude remove scribble
[14:35] <jrib> !apt > Peleus
[14:35] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: Nope, upgraded from 8.04 a couple of days ago.
[14:35] <Peleus> Thank you
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Were there any unsupported repos in your sources.list
[14:36] <CyL> squirt33: I guess that will help a lot, I was looking for such an option in the preferences menu, thanks
[14:36] <burkmat> Does anyone have any suggestions, links or resources when it comes to clustering a couple of Ubuntu-boxes?
[14:36] <kak> ciao
[14:36] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, They can hurt you when you upgrade
[14:36] <kak> !list
[14:36] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: Only the wine repo, and it was disabled first.
[14:36] <BlueEagle> paul68: Happy new year to you to. I'm good, thanks. How about yourself? Please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic to continue this discussion. :)
[14:37] <Peleus> Night all, thanks for your help
[14:37] <silv3r_m00n> Jack_Sparrow: using gimpshop its easy to draw shapes ?
[14:37] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: Just launched software sources to look for more and now it's frozen too.
[14:38] <Jack_Sparrow> silv3r_m00n, I think it is just more of a skin for gim that puts the commands where photoshop people are used to seeing them
[14:38] <silv3r_m00n> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[14:38] <squirt33> silv3r_m00n: It's a hack, personally one that I find doesn't work
[14:39] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, That sounds like your problem area.. do it from a term  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:39] <lyricaldogg> HI everyone: anyone using StudioUbuntu
[14:39] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: It's HUGE! Want a pastebin?
[14:40] <daredevilthere> Hey i installed usplash and  changed it from update-alternatives but when i reboot its not working ?
[14:40] <energY> How do I get dyndns on ubuntu?
[14:40] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Not really..   clean it up  :)  Im a bit busy
[14:40] <jrib> energY: not sure what you mean by that....  ddclient is a program that will update your ip with the dns service if that's what you want
[14:40] <erUSUL> energY: apt-cache search dyndns
[14:41] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: What should come out?
[14:41] <energY> jrib: I want to be able to acess my ubuntu even know it uses an dynamic ip.
[14:41] <sipior> energY: have a look at ez-ipupdate. supports most dyndns providers.
[14:41] <jrib> energY: then setup an account with dyndns and use ddclient or the other programs suggested
[14:41] <energY> solid_liq: A lot of setup?
[14:42] <energY> I need the least amount of effort thing.
[14:42] <jrib> energY: you're asked for you account and password info and that's it...
[14:42] <zlatangoal> hi
[14:42] <VilasBoas> Hy i have a laptop Fujitsu-Siemens V5515 where i put ubuntu 8.10 with the Modem ZTE MF620.
[14:42] <VilasBoas> My problem is that the Modem ZTE MF620 is working perfectly but when i update my ubuntu 8.10 it's stop working, the ubuntu can find the modem but can't establish  the connection to the internet :(
[14:42] <VilasBoas> Does anyone know how to restore the inicial configuration of the connection to internet????
[14:42] <energY> jrib: It will just continue to run forever?
[14:42] <FloodBot1> VilasBoas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:43] <jrib> energY: ddclient will update your ip when it needs to
[14:43] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: Everything is commented out except for the current repos already.
[14:43] <VilasBoas> can anyone help me please ;)
[14:43] <zlatangoal> i have 1 problem with installation of WRATH OF THE LICH KING expansion of WOW please help me
[14:43] <energY> jrib: For ever?
[14:44] <sipior> energY: no, eventually the Sun will die.
[14:44] <Heliodor> What is the name of the wine exta tools package?
[14:44] <Heliodor> Cant remember.
[14:45] <zlatangoal> can you help me?
[14:45] <mgolisch> what extra tools?
[14:45] <Heliodor> The help thingie.
[14:45] <Heliodor> With fonts and stuff
[14:46] <mgolisch> Heliodor: oh, winedoors?
[14:46] <mgolisch> playonlinux?
[14:46] <CyL> I've just installed ubuntu 8.10 on my system and is says me I have to install almost 250 mbytes of security updates, is this correct?
[14:46] <mapreduce> Hi.  gnome-terminal appears to be swallowing Ctrl-s rather than sending it to applications.  Any suggestions?
[14:47] <fosco__> CyL: yes, maybe
[14:47] <sipior> zlatangoal: this isn't really a forum for blizzard games. you might try the forums run by the Cedega folks.
[14:47] <Heliodor> mgolisch: thanks!!
[14:47] <CyL> fosco_: does ubuntu lists only the updates needed by my system?
[14:47] <dmsuperm1n> I can't connect to any wireless networks. My Acer Aspire 4530 has an "Atheros AR928X Wireless adapter", and I'm running 64bit. Any ideas? Wired works.
[14:47] <zlatangoal> ok but i want install with wine and i cant
[14:47] <lyricaldogg> CyL: yes
[14:48] <CyL> lyricaldogg: thanks
[14:48] <daredevilthere>  Hey i installed usplash and  changed it from update-alternatives but when i reboot its not working ?
[14:49] <lyricaldogg> CyL: mos of your apt-get will do everything for you, such as autoclean, autoremove and purge
[14:50] <Heliodor> Hum, python seem to be installed but i cant run the python file anyway.
[14:51] <Heliodor> do it need specific permission?
[14:51] <lseeo1> how did you run it?
[14:51] <Heliodor> ./file.py
[14:51] <fosco__> python file.py
[14:51] <ja660k> heliodor: chmod +a
[14:51] <ja660k> i think
[14:51] <dou213> Hi, my linux distro isn’t recognising the wlan0… what do to?
[14:51] <lseeo1> python file.py
[14:51] <Heliodor> Ah :)
[14:51] <Heliodor> Thank you !!
[14:51] <lseeo1> or you need chmod.
[14:52] <ja660k> or you need #!/usr/bin/python to tell ./ what its compiling
[14:52] <VilasBoas> can anyone tell me how to put the network manager with the original configuration of the ubuntu 8.10?
[14:52] <simplexio> Heliodor: chmod +x file; then you cant execute it ./file else bash/python/perl/whatever is needed to front
[14:53] <ja660k> how can i get iptables to list all open ports?
[14:53] <Heliodor> simplexio: Thank you, that is good to know!
[14:53] <dmsuperm1n> I can't connect to any wireless networks. My Acer Aspire 4530 has an "Atheros AR928X Wireless adapter", and I'm running 64bit. Any ideas? Wired works.
[14:54] <lyricaldogg> dmsupermln: sounds like alot of hand work
[14:55] <Heliodor> Hum, i installed winedoors from the setup.py file but there is no shortcut to start it
[14:55] <Heliodor> perhaps there is none?
[14:55] <sipior> ja660k: running "sudo netstat -antup" will show all open ports on your system, and the responsible processes.
[14:56] <exoticorn> dmsuperman: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=882003 which points to http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5525672&postcount=73 ?
[14:56] <ja660k> ah thanks
[14:57] <whitedox> What's that one program that configures your X file?
[14:57] <n0r> !usage
[14:57] <n0r> !help
[14:57] <ja660k> whitedox, edit .xdefaults
[14:58] <naxeh> ? ubuntu
[14:58] <naxeh> :/
[14:58] <whitedox> ja660k, is that the program name?
[14:58] <baz> hey what sql client do u guys use? I want to connect to a remote MSSQL db - usually i used management studio...
[14:58] <naxeh> !ubuntu
[14:58] <n0r> Hello averybody
[14:59] <naxeh> !windows
[14:59] <n0r> I need help who can help me?
[14:59] <n0r> :)
[14:59] <naxeh> !ballmer
[14:59] <baz> n0r, what do u need
[14:59] <ja660k> n0r: just ask question
[14:59] <dmsuperman> exoticorn: I'd prefer to avoid ndiswrapper if possible
[15:00] <n0r> 1 sec
[15:00] <mwagner_> dmsuperman: apparently it's working in 8.10
[15:00] <lyricaldogg> !sex
[15:00] <mwagner_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963703
[15:00] <dayo_> ubottu: don't be such a prude :P
[15:00] <Heliodor> LoLs
[15:01] <n0r> baz ja660k [~] # uname -a
[15:01] <n0r> Linux NAS-Teacher <IP_ADDRESS>-arm1 #2 Thu Nov 1 03:31:14 CST 2007 armv5tejl unknown
[15:01] <n0r> [~] # cat /etc/issue
[15:01] <n0r> Welcome to QNAP Systems Inc,. Marvell(<IP_ADDRESS>) development environment.
[15:01] <n0r> [~] #
[15:01] <FloodBot1> n0r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <n0r> i need to adduser
[15:01] <mwagner_> dmsuperman: 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) improved WLAN support a lot. Also managed to get my UMTS card working
[15:01] <ormecuro> i can not get sound from my rear speakers ,need help
[15:02] <evowill> !adduser | n0r
[15:02] <dmsuperman> mwagner_: I'm using Intrepid
[15:02] <Heliodor> Ah... needed to be root of course
[15:02] <dmsuperman> I can't connect to or see any wireless networks. My Acer Aspire 4530 has an "Atheros AR928X Wireless adapter", and I'm running 64bit. Any ideas? Wired works.
[15:02] <Heliodor> There should be a warning about that in wine-doors i think
[15:03] <n0r> :>
[15:03] <evowill> dmsuperman, what release
[15:03] <root___> hjf
[15:03] <trancefat> hi all. how do i install a deb package?
[15:03] <dmsuperman> evowill: 8.10
[15:03] <maxbaldwin> trancefat: dpkg -i <package>
[15:03] <Jack_Sparrow> trancefat, Hopefully not a deb from the Debian repos.. but normally just double clickit
[15:03] <lseeo1> dpkg -i
[15:04] <evowill> dmsuperman, hmm, let me check, that might be the same one I did not too long ago
[15:04] <mwagner_> You can check using "sudo hwlist" if it claims a driver
[15:04] <root___> ,
[15:04] <root___> ,
[15:04] <trancefat> Jack_Sparrow: It is a program I downloaded called mydiary
[15:04] <root___> ,
[15:04] <FloodBot1> root___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <Ward1983> !vpn
[15:05] <Ward1983> gaming vpn? :s
[15:05] <FloodBot1> root___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <whitedox> What's the program that helps you configure your xorg.conf?
[15:05] <sarmisak> hi all
[15:05] <FloodBot1> root___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <mwagner_> whitedox: dpkg-reconfigure-xorg-server or something like this
[15:05] <Ward1983> jesus christ
[15:05] <shubbar> i have a process thats consuming 50% of CPU and when i try to kill it, System Monitor closes
[15:05] <naxeh> !flood
[15:06] <dmsuperman> mwagner_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:06] <Ward1983> is there anything about a normal VPN that NOT uses IPX....?
[15:06] <maxbaldwin> Ward1983: language. :|
[15:06] <Ghone> shubbar is that process the system monitor?
[15:06] <Ward1983> hahaha since when is that a bad word???
[15:06] <mwagner_> ah okay
[15:06] <dmsuperman> evowill: Any ideas?
[15:06] <dmsuperman> maxbaldwin: He use any foul language
[15:07] <naxeh> !sex
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983, taken in vain.. always
[15:07] <shubbar> Ghone, its ccpd,  i think its for the printer "cups common ...
[15:07] <Jack_Sparrow> naxeh, Stop
[15:07] <naxeh> jack ;)
[15:07] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, lol its just very funny with this word (relegious word starting with j and ending with s lol)
[15:07] <n0r> !adduser
[15:08] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, no offense meant but its just funny
[15:08] <maxbaldwin> Ward1983: I'm sure there christians that take offense to that.
[15:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[15:08] <shubbar> Ghone, when i try to close or kill any process, System Monitor closes
[15:08] <sipior> Ward1983: just do what i do, and swear by Arioch the Thrice-Damned. No one's ever heard of him...
[15:08] <Delvien> m
[15:08] <The_ManU_212> hi
[15:08] <maxbaldwin> Ward1983: it's a support channel, not for offtopic chitchat. It drags away from the help.
[15:08] <dmsuperman> sipior: Take it to -offtopic
[15:09] <maxbaldwin> hello The_ManU_212
[15:09] <Ward1983> is there anything about a normal VPN that NOT uses IPX....?
[15:09] <sipior> dmsuperman: i'll thank you not to waste my time, friend.
[15:09] <maxbaldwin> do you need some help with anything, The_ManU_212
[15:09] <Ward1983> !vpn is about IPC
[15:09] <dmsuperman> sipior: And I'll thank you not to waste the time of those in here
[15:09] <dmsuperman> sipior: So again, take it to offtopic
[15:09] <Jeruvy> Ward1983: what vpn are you using?
[15:09] <The_ManU_212> i use hardy heron, i want to view a video signal from composite of my tv card and the soudn with spdif, sound works, but i have no videooutput, the vdieo output works with xawtv, the sound doesnt
[15:10] <Ward1983> Jeruvy, none im trying to find out my options
[15:10] <The_ManU_212> anyone can help?
[15:10] <evowill> dmsuperman, not the same one, thank goodness as it was a nightmare
[15:10] <The_ManU_212> maxbaldwin: yeah
[15:10] <evowill> dmsuperman, give me a few min, and I will PM you
[15:10] <frostburn> Ward1983, use openvpn or ipsec
[15:11] <trancefat> Hi, i installed a deb package and it installed successfully.. it shows in the applications menu but when i click it, it doesnt start...
[15:11] <Ward1983> frostburn, any major difference between them that can be important?
[15:11] <Ward1983> in choosing
[15:11] <frostburn> many
[15:11] <Jack_Sparrow> trancefat, Doesnt sound like a successful install to me
[15:11] <evowill> trancefat, try running it from the terminal
[15:11] <Ward1983> frostburn, damn i was hoping for one :p
[15:11]  * Ward1983 googles
[15:11] <trancefat> evowill: ok
[15:11] <Ward1983> oh oops i didnt mean to say that
[15:12] <Ward1983> entered before i noticed
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> trancefat, What is the name of the package and where did you get it
[15:12] <frostburn> Ward1983, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_network#Categorizing_VPN_security_models
[15:12] <Ward1983> frostburn, thanx
[15:12] <maxbaldwin> The_ManU_212:, I can't help you, I've never worked with that. You could probably try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ and come across someone who can help
[15:12] <trancefat> Jack_Sparrow: it is the same thing I was installing some time ago... mydiary and i got it from its site
[15:12] <Kartagis> how to reinstall package after applying a patch?
[15:12] <trancefat> Jack_Sparrow: it is a python app and python seems to be installed on this machine
[15:13] <The_ManU_212> is there a vlc channel?
[15:14] <gonewestcoast> The_ManU_212: #videolan
[15:14] <dmsuperman> evowill: Thanks :)
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> trancefat, The site says for ubuntu, but it does not work in ubuntu, so there must be some dependency issue etc
[15:15] <trancefat> evowill: i tried running the app from the terminal and it said  File "/usr/share/myDiary/mydiary.py", line 17, in <module>
[15:15] <trancefat>     import gtkspell
[15:15] <Kai_Itaho> hello, how can I disable the keyring from keep asking me for a password for my wireless connection?
[15:15] <eric2323223> :)
[15:15] <trancefat> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, it said it is some ImportError of gtkspell
[15:15] <trancefat> Jack_Sparrow:  File "/usr/share/myDiary/mydiary.py", line 17, in <module>
[15:15] <trancefat>     import gtkspell
[15:16] <whitedox> When trying to file > save my xorg.conf, it says I don't haver permission. How to do this?
[15:16] <Kai_Itaho> can the wireless connection remember my password instead of asking for it everytime I relog?
[15:17] <methods> how do i block a package from being selected for updating in update manager ?
[15:17] <Kartagis> whitedox, what program are you using to edit it?
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> trancefat, SO there are unsatisfied dependencies in that deb you got from an unsupported source.  Please let them know it does not work
[15:17] <The_ManU_212> thx gonewestcoast
[15:17] <whitedox> Kartagis, gedit
[15:17] <Dean> methods: if using update-manager then just uncheck it
[15:17] <Heliodor> Euum...
[15:18] <Dean> methods: otherwisee look at http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[15:18] <Heliodor> Is Wine-Doors _supposed_ to install Dreamweaver 8 free???
[15:18] <methods> Dean:  how do i make it stop showing up forever
[15:18] <Kartagis> whitedox, use sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:18] <whitedox> mmk
[15:18] <Heliodor> Ah...
[15:18] <Heliodor> Now it asks :)
[15:18] <sipior> Kai_Itaho: this might prove useful to you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=920250
[15:19] <Dean> methods: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
[15:19] <Dean> dean: use apt pinning
[15:19] <baz> I am looking for a replacement to microsoft management studio - basically any *good* client to connect to an MS-SQL Server...
[15:19] <Kartagis> how to reinstall package after applying a patch? dpkg-reconfigure?
[15:19] <Dean> methods: edit /etc/apt/preferences
[15:20] <Dean> methods: then add these lines
[15:20] <Dean> methods: Package: <package>
[15:20] <Ward1983> frostburn, any idea if there are options when we cannot port-forward?
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[15:20] <evowill> dmsuperman, trancefat I sent you messages
[15:20] <Dean> Pin: version <current version>
[15:20] <frostburn> Ward1983, what's that?  Can I get some context
[15:21] <etech> what is the best way to install nvidia 180.22 on intrepid?
[15:21] <Ward1983> frostburn, my friend is a bit stupid and he cannot forward ports...
[15:21] <Ward1983> frostburn, so i need to findout what is going on
[15:21] <Ward1983> frostburn, hamachi maybe?
[15:21] <Ward1983> (used that once a long time ago)
[15:21] <DarkKnight> can anyone tell me how to convert a png file to a jpg file
[15:21] <Dean> methods: see man apt_preferences for more information
[15:21] <Dean> !man
[15:22] <Dean> !apt
[15:22] <frostburn> Ward1983, I don't know what's going on, is ubuntu being used as a firewall?
[15:22] <Ward1983> frostburn, nono i mean on his router :)
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight, I would think gimp could do that
[15:22] <methods> Dean:  I'm reading it
[15:22] <Ward1983> frostburn, ca cannot manage to forward ports, but he did it right i saw a screenie, but i need to findout what is going on over VNC
[15:23] <etech> shouldi use the nvidia installer or is there a deb for nvidia driver 180.22?
[15:23] <Ward1983> frostburn, so i was hoping to use a VPN to bypass hes router to find out whats wrong
[15:23] <Ward1983> frostburn, but openVPN needs a UDP port forwarded i see
[15:23] <jrib> etech: 180.11 is in the repositories
[15:23] <Ward1983> frostburn, i hope its clear now?
[15:23] <Flynsarmy> I have an NTFS partition. when i do a sudo chown $USER webpage/ the folder doesn't change from being owned by 'root'. how do i fix this?
[15:23] <Kai_Itaho> thank you sipior =]
[15:24] <etech> jrib: but i search 180.22 :)
[15:24] <DarkKnight> Jack_Sparrow; hey thanxx...it worked...
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983, Understood, but the questions are common from a person that is using a connection that is not his
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> DarkKnight, great
[15:24] <superdump> when using nautilus to connect to a samba share, where is it mounted?
[15:24] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, how can i setup a VPN on his computer??? thats impossible....
[15:25] <Dean> Flynsarmy: ntfs does not use UNIX permissions
[15:25] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, im talking to him on IM and he will setup his part of the VPN and i will do mine
[15:25] <Cernunnos> #wesnoth
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983, You will need port forwarding
[15:25] <Flynsarmy> Dean, so i can't share any folders on that partition?
[15:25] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, damn
[15:25] <CyL> How can I get input for local symbols in ubuntu?
[15:25] <Rioting_pacifist> where do you edit toolbars in gnome/gnumeric? (is there a better place to ask about gnumeric?)
[15:26] <Ward1983> Jack_Sparrow, its his conenction his stupid router just wont work, and apperantly hes unable to solve it himself
[15:26] <tangfulin> what you guys talking about?
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Ward1983, Very simple to setup. if you have the admin account password on the router
[15:26] <frostburn> Ward1983, you can create a VPN tunnel with only one side that forwards ports
[15:26] <lyricaldogg> Hi everyone: what is the best server for Ubutnu Hardy Heron?
[15:26] <Ward1983> frostburn, aha thats nice
[15:26] <Ward1983> frostburn, with openvpn i presume?
[15:26] <frostburn> uyes
[15:26] <sipior> lyricaldogg: server for what, exactly?
[15:27] <Flynsarmy> Is there any way to share a folder in an NTFS partition?
[15:27] <lyricaldogg> sipior: general ......
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, share in what way  with ubuntu.. yes
[15:27] <lyricaldogg> sipior: files as well as a mail server and web pages host
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[15:27] <Flynsarmy> Jack_Sparrow, i have an NTFS partition on my ubuntu machine. i want to make it so ppl on other PCs (running windows) can view certain folders on that partition
[15:27] <Ward1983> frostburn, aha thanx again ill read on then :)
[15:27] <CyL> How do I type accents in ubuntu without changing it's default language from englich?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, Samba
[15:28] <CyL> *english
[15:28] <Flynsarmy> Jack_Sparrow, that's what i'm using. i right clicked - properties on one of the ntfs folders and tried to share it. said i didnt own the folder. i cant chown it either
[15:29] <kitche> CyL: change your keyboard layout to En-intel if your keyboard supports international or you know the keys that you need to press to get said accent
[15:29] <sipior> CyL: try enabling deadkeys in your Keyboard preference dialogue. there are a number of keystroke combinations that allow you to construct a wide variety of accents.
[15:29] <Dean> Flynsarmy: you can set the owner on mount
[15:29] <CyL> kitche: already tried this, but still no accents at alll
[15:29] <Flynsarmy> Dean they're auto-mounted on boot i think. i used ntfs-config to do it
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Flynsarmy, Im a bit busy but, you should be able to set the permission on the mount point or in fstab depending on how all you have it mounting up
[15:30] <uni4dfx> how do i get EHCI to recognize my external hdd?
[15:31] <methods> Dean what do i have to do to put it into affect ?
[15:32] <CyL> sipior: there isn't such an option in my keyboard preferences windows.
[15:32] <Ward1983> frostburn, im looking at this: http://openvpn.net/index.php/documentation/miscellaneous/static-key-mini-howto.html
[15:32] <squirt33> Every time I try to install or remove a package the window freezes and I get error messages.
[15:32] <Ward1983> frostburn, but it doesnt speak of where to safve the configurations?
[15:32] <Dean> Flynsarmy: in /etc/fstab you put this:
[15:32] <Ward1983> frostburn, do you have any idea?
[15:33] <frostburn> Ward1983, i've never used openvpn on ubuntu, i've only used it on freebsd
[15:33] <frostburn> im assuming /etc/ =p
[15:33] <squirt33> Every time I try to install or remove a package the window freezes and I get error messages. What do I do?
[15:33] <Ward1983> frostburn, theres only a script in there lol
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[15:33] <Dean> Flyn's army: <windows_part> <mount/point> ntfs-3g, uid=<your uid>,umask=0022
[15:34] <sipior> CyL: System->Preferences->Keyboard Preferences. Try Layout Options, and set up a compose key. it's possible the names are slightly off--i'm not sitting at a linux box at the moment.
[15:34] <lyricaldogg> Cyl: what Os are you using ?
[15:34] <Dean> Flynsarmy: except change it to the real name of the partition
[15:34] <CyL> lyricaldogg: ubuntu 8.10
[15:34] <Heliodor> What now! My international keyboard keys just stoped working!
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, One of those things you installed manually or from the extra repos that were added probably came back to bite you as often happens when you upgrade your release
[15:34] <Heliodor> äöå
[15:34] <Heliodor> What the!
[15:34] <Heliodor> Now its working again
[15:35] <lyricaldogg> CyL: press Alt Gr the the @ the the a .. what's the output?
[15:35] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: Well what happened is that I kept trying to install wine, but then it froze, and I had to reboot. Now it won't uninstall.
[15:35] <CyL> ²
[15:35] <caboose-sm> can someone tell me how to format drives in ubuntu, i need to format an external hd
[15:35] <CyL> á
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, I assume the latest wine and not the one from our repos..
[15:35] <lyricaldogg> Cyl: is that what you wanted?
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, gparted
[15:36] <caboose-sm> how do i launch that ?
[15:36] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, the people over at wine told me to. Actually, the last wine, then took that off, and then tried to do various older ones, which is where I had an issue.
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, verify that it is installed
[15:36] <CyL> lyricaldogg: not exactly, to get an á I would like to type an acute, then an "a", and only then get the á displayed
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Time to restore from backup. THe people in wine always say you need the latest.
[15:37] <Yann6> How can I reinstall all pakages?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[15:37] <CyL> sipior: I'm here you said to, but it doesn't seems to have an option to get composed keys
[15:38] <rakesh> i hav prblm in net connection everytime it disconnected due to modem hangup ?how can i fix this?
[15:38] <jrib> Yann6: why?  There isn't usually much point
[15:38] <Dean> methods: install apt-show-versions; then do apt-show-versions -p <package-name>
[15:38] <caboose-sm> is there any linux support for RAZER mouse ?
[15:39] <rakesh> is there support in net connection?
[15:39] <Yann6> jrib: I changed a lot of things and now I wan the progs to be as they were...
[15:39] <lyricaldogg> CyL: what i do myself because i write in Portuguese is, get them from the combination that i gave you like Alt Gr + : the e= é then you can get all the others around it with the same combination from the other keys around it äãáâà
[15:39] <The_ManU_212> how to get a vlc 9.x version in hardy heron?
[15:39] <sipior> CyL: might be labelled a bit differently. play around, it should be in there somewhere. i wish i could be a bit more specific, but i have no access to gnome just right now :-)
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Yann6, reinstall or restore from a backup
[15:40] <rakesh> i hav prblm in net connection everytime it disconnected due to modem hangup ?how can i fix this?
[15:40] <caboose-sm> i am looking for drivers for my Razer mouse, can someone help
[15:40] <methods> Dean:  yea but the little download icon is still in my systray trying to upgrade it
[15:40] <shankhs> hi
[15:41] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, i installed gparted, how do i use it now
[15:41] <Dean> methods: then put this in your /etc/apt/preferences
[15:41] <Dean> http://paste.ubuntu.com/106982/
[15:41] <methods> Dean i have it i nthere
[15:41] <Dean> methods: using the information you got
[15:41] <lyricaldogg> CyL: any good?
[15:41] <Dean> methods: OK then sudo apt-get update
[15:41] <CyL> sipior, lyricaldogg: thanks guys, I got what I wanted to, the problem is that I was using layout "US International (Alt GR dead keys" instead of "US International (with dead keys)"
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, system..admin..partition editor
[15:41] <Dean> methods: that should fix it
[15:41] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: WHat backup? I upgraded two days ago - I don't have one
[15:41] <caboose-sm> okay thks
[15:41] <methods> :] !
[15:42] <CyL> lyricaldogg: have you this this layout? I also type in portuguese and I think it is much simpler this way
[15:42] <lyricaldogg> CyL: you are welcome
[15:42] <methods> stupid v4l
[15:42] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: No one ever told me to backup...Is there any way to fix this?
[15:42] <methods> broke my camera
[15:42] <Flynsarmy> How do i get my uid?
[15:43] <oCean_> Flynsarmy: type "id"
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, save /var/cache/apt/archives then restore your last backup in old release and upgrade again
[15:43] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, the format option is grayed out for my external hd, what should i do ?
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, Unmount it
[15:43] <lyricaldogg> CyL: i never tryed that one but i guess i am used to the one i use, but hey, one day i will have a go
[15:44] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, ntfs is grayed out should i do fat32 then ntfs ?
[15:44] <CyL> lyricaldogg: where are your from? this input method I prefer to use is what is used for most OSes when you type in portuguese..
[15:44] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: I don't have one - I've been wicked busy and have't had time.
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, delete the existing partition and let it actually do it, then see if you can ntfs the drive
[15:45] <uni4dfx> nvm, found the problem... my mobo doesn't support usb2.0
[15:45] <lyricaldogg> CyL: i'm from Portugal, BCV, i guess you know where that is. and you ?
[15:45] <stix_> Have any of you experienced that you num-lock keys doesn't work at all anymore?
[15:45] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, Wicked busy is not an excuse for not having any backup what so ever
[15:45] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, i deleted it, ntfs is still grey
[15:45] <pieces> I have quicksynergy installed on my laptop and desktop both which are 8.10 but I cannot seem to get it to work.  Is synergy compatible with 8.10?
[15:46] <whoDat> when i upgraded to 8.10, my multimedia volume keys no longer report key codes to xev, however they do raise and lower the volume.. ??
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, make it fat32
[15:46] <Kai_Itaho> how do I install an .inf file?
[15:46] <rubydiamond> guys see this
[15:46] <rubydiamond> https://gist.github.com/dd33140b19b5b9e14273
[15:46] <rubydiamond> I am not able to view <IP_ADDRESS> in nmap results
[15:46] <rubydiamond> what sis wrong
[15:46] <jopn> stix: i had that problem , but i install new updates and i no longer have that problem
[15:46] <bojtel> hello neep help how to play a dvd disc
[15:46] <evowill> Jack_Sparrow, 'wicked busy is not an excuse for not having any backup'     Very well said
[15:46] <Ward1983> great no docs about vpn anywhere
[15:46] <Ward1983> nice
[15:47] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, its still greyed out ! wtf
[15:47] <stix_> jopn, there doesn't seem to be any new updates
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> rubydiamond, Please post a description of the problem along with the link and all on one line
[15:47] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: There's prolly one......somewhere...If there isn't, is there nothing I can do?
[15:47] <andrea89roma> salve a tutti...c'è qualche italiano ?
[15:47] <stix_> but I did this just recently
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, please lose the wtx.. it isnt going to help us help you.
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !it
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[15:47] <andrea89roma> tnx 1000
[15:47] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, sry just frustrated lol
[15:47] <jopn> stix ,i just install 5 today
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, try gpartedlivecd
[15:47] <junior_> salut
[15:47] <shroud> german server
[15:47] <rubydiamond> guys.. nmap is not showing ip <IP_ADDRESS> with "nmap -ST" see https://gist.github.com/dd33140b19b5b9e14273 ?
[15:47] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, should i try and do it in windows ?
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !gparted
[15:48] <pieces> does anyone know if synergy is supported in intrepid?
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, sure.. it is their format after all
[15:48] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, yeah i have the live cd ill try that
[15:48] <rubydiamond> "nmap -sT" actually
[15:48] <junior_> bonsoir à tous
[15:48] <caboose-sm> okay windows first then
[15:48] <rubydiamond> Jack_Sparrow: I watched pirates, I am your fan..
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > junior_
[15:48] <rubydiamond> could you please help me
[15:48] <junior_> ok
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> rubydiamond, Please do as I asked earlier
[15:48] <caboose-sm> does anyone know where i can find drivers for Razer mice ?
[15:49] <rubydiamond> Jack_Sparrow: no.
[15:49] <junior_> I'm not speack english sorry
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> rubydiamond, Please post a description of the problem along with the link and all on one line
[15:49] <rubydiamond> Jack_Sparrow: I did
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !fr > junior_
[15:49] <junior_> thanks
[15:49] <whoDat> anyone know what happened to the multimedia keys in 8.10?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:49] <junior_> !fr
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[15:49] <pieces> anyone know how to get compiz effects working with dual monitors?
[15:49] <lyricaldogg> CyL: ?
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> junior_, /join #ubuntu-fr
[15:50] <caboose-sm> does anyone know where i can find drivers for Razer mice ?
[15:50] <evowill> !details | rubydiamond
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, Have you looked at the supported hardware page.. and what are you trying to do with the mouse
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !buttons
[15:51] <Kai_Itaho> how can I get a GUI working for another monitor
[15:51] <rubydiamond> I have problem with "nmap -sT" command which doesn't print one of my network comp.. https://gist.github.com/dd33140b19b5b9e14273
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> pieces, /join #compiz
[15:51] <caboose-sm> Jack_Sparrow, i dont care about the extra buttons, i need to control the sensitivtiy
[15:51] <pieces> Jack_Sparrow, ty
[15:51] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, I assume some sort of wireless
[15:52] <caboose-sm> huh ?
[15:52] <caboose-sm> oh no its a wired mouse
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, is the mouse wired or woreless
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[15:52] <caboose-sm> in windows there is a razer program that allows me to control sensitivity
[15:52] <lyricaldogg> !windows
[15:53] <CyL> lyricaldogg: Sorry, I was looking for my wife that is ill, Iḿ from Brazil, but I'm moving from a place to another
[15:54] <lyricaldogg> CyL: cool... are you coming over to Portugal ?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> caboose-sm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251582&highlight=mouse+acceleration+sensitivity              look at post #6
[15:54] <Kai_Itaho> is there another way for 8.10 Ibex to use displayconfig-gtk?
[15:54] <CyL> lyricaldogg: I would really appreciate to know Portugal some day, since my family has portuguese origins...
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[15:55] <CyL> lyricaldogg: I must go now my friend, we meet around, okay?
[15:56] <lyricaldogg> CyL: i'll see you soon
[15:56] <Armada651> I've installed the official linux drivers for my Creative X-Fi soundcard. But so far, only OSS works. But according to Creative it should support ALSA.
[15:57] <Kai_Itaho> is there a GUI for installing another LCD screen?
[15:57] <Kai_Itaho> on Ibex
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !dualhead
[16:00] <bojtel> How do I open a dvd disc? vlc n mplayer doesnt work ?!
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !dvd
[16:00] <toddoon> does somebody know a  good program to store password exept fpm
[16:00] <disappearedng_> Hey everyone do I have to have a UUID in my /etc/fstab?
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> disappearedng_, no
[16:00] <kitche> disappearedng_: no
[16:01] <sipior> toddoon: i like keepassx, multi-platform, easy to use.
[16:01] <Jack_Sparrow> disappearedng_, /dev sdx woorks too
[16:01] <disappearedng_> k
[16:01] <toddoon> i will look at it thx sipior
[16:01] <space_case> i have a question, on event save i wanted to send an sms msg to my phone. i tried using smssend but the scripts seem to be out of date a little... any ideas?
[16:01] <space_case> using motion .....i have a question, on event save i wanted to send an sms msg to my phone. i tried using smssend but the scripts seem to be out of date a little... any ideas?
[16:03] <disappearedng_> Hey where will this download mldonkey to ? sudo apt-get build-dep mldonkey-server
[16:04] <nickrud><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:04] <disappearedng_> WHen I do an apt-get where does the files download to ?
[16:05] <jxander> is there a good launcher that supports multiple screens? something similar to gnome-do, but that could be run on :0.0 and :0.1.
[16:05] <superdump> disappearedng: /var/apt/cache or something like that iirc
[16:05] <oCean_> space_case: sms_client (package smsclient) worked for me. Don't use it nowadays.
[16:05] <sipior> disappearedng: to my understanding, it won't. you'll simply grab those packages needed satisfy the build dependencies. there is a cache in /var/cache/apt/archives as well.
[16:05] <space_case> mine go to /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:05] <grndslm> is it posssible to upgrade only one package thru apt??
[16:05] <superdump> that's the one
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> disappearedng_, If you go into synaptic it will show you where everyting will be installed
[16:06] <piolo> can anyone recommend me any app that would diff the content of 2 directories?
[16:06] <sipior> grndslm: sure
[16:06] <Slart> grndslm: I think that's what "sudo apt-get install" does.. not sure though but try it
[16:06] <Slart> piolo: I think diff can do that
[16:06] <disappearedng_> Jack_Sparrow I have to compile it
[16:06] <sipior> grndslm: unless the upgrade requires that something else be upgraded... ")
[16:06] <disappearedng_> with different options
[16:06] <Xamusk> so, what's the good desktop search engine now? it appears many have cropped up, but most suck like Tracker
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> disappearedng, The *.debs are in /var/ as stated above, but I didnt think that is what you really were asking
[16:07] <oCean_> piolo: difference between directories as in.. ? Whether they differ in size, or..?
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Xamusk, ask the bot, we discourage polls in this channel
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !bot
[16:08] <oCean_> Slart: piolo: diff only works for (content) of files
[16:08] <piolo> oCean_, well there are big directories, so I would be happy with something fast
[16:08] <piolo> oCean_, even if it is not accurate
[16:08] <Slart> oCean_: are you sure about that?
[16:09] <oCean_> Slart: not anymore, now :)
[16:09] <Slart> oCean_: good
[16:09] <Slart> piolo: diff will do folders.. just do "diff folder1 folder2" and it will reports differences and so on
[16:09] <oCean_> piolo: but what are you looking for.. the difference as in sizes? Of the difference as in content of the directories?
[16:10] <oCean_> Slart: I stand corrected
[16:10] <piolo> oCean_, I am looking for the difference as in the content. But since two files with the same name should be the same file, I would be happy about something a bit faster
[16:10] <oCean_> piolo: see what Slart said. "diff /dir1 /dir2" will work.
[16:11] <piolo> Slart, thanks but that is not very readable.
[16:11] <stufkan> hello
[16:11] <piolo> oCean_, I did that.. is there soemthing a bit more readable
[16:11] <oCean_> piolo: is not?
[16:11] <Slart> piolo: huh? what kind of output do you want?
[16:11] <piolo> well e.g. just the list of files which differ
[16:12] <ardchoille> piolo: diff does exactly that
[16:12] <Slart> piolo: ehm... that's what I get when I run that command.. are you getting weird output?
[16:12] <ye> Ive got a bad problem with a screencard driver, It just doesnt work. I have tryed everything. It's a nvidia 8500GT card using driver 177
[16:12] <piolo> ardchoille, how? diff folder1 folder2 would show everything
[16:12] <piolo> Slart, yes, weird output here
[16:12] <ardchoille> piolo: it shows the differences in the two folders
[16:12] <stufkan> i'm trying to set up at statip ip on my ubuntu system
[16:12] <Slart> piolo: can you pastebin it?
[16:12] <n8tuser>  piolo learn to use the redirection of its output to /dev/null
[16:12] <Slart> !pastebin | piolo
[16:13] <oCean_> piolo: wait, you mean that you want to see if /dir1/file1.txt differs from /dir2/file1.txt ?
[16:13] <Xamusk> !desktopsearch
[16:13] <piolo> oCean_, if it does, I just want to know the filename not the difference
[16:13] <ye> Ive got a bad problem with a screencard driver, It just doesnt work. I have tryed everything. It's a nvidia 8500GT card using driver 177
[16:13] <squirt33> Jack_Sparrow: I got my dad the linux guru to fix it. Thanks for being patient!
[16:13] <Jack_Sparrow> squirt33, np
[16:14] <piolo> /dev/null seems to help... thanks n8tuser
[16:14] <Slart> piolo: of course you have already read the man page.. haven't you?
[16:14] <quaal> why do shared videos play audio on windows but not on ubuntu
[16:14] <quaal> in vlc
[16:14] <piolo> hmm or maybe not
[16:14] <Slart> piolo: there are all kinds of switches you can use to change the output.. ignoring certain things. etc etc
[16:15] <stufkan> how do I force ubuntu to use the settings to use the /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf instead of the gui??
[16:15] <nickrud> stufkan, network manager should respect any entry there; dhcp may alter resolv.conf anyway
[16:16] <stufkan> how do i kill dhcp then?
[16:16] <piolo> Slart, do you know how to just show the filename
[16:16] <stufkan> i want static ip and opendns
[16:16] <Slart> piolo: you just want a list of filenames that differ?
[16:16] <stufkan> but the gui flushes my settings
[16:16] <rconan> does gnome-screensaver have any way to change the screensaver settings?
[16:16] <piolo> Slart, yes
[16:16] <jrib> rconan: no
[16:16] <nickrud> stufkan, install resolvconf and add a line to the iface stanza like  dns-servers ip ip  (what I use, including opendns)
[16:16] <ardchoille> piolo: I don't see how that information would be of much help
[16:17] <nickrud> stufkan, erm, dns-nameservers ip ip that is
[16:17] <javamexico5371> hello
[16:17] <rconan> jrib, do i just need to install xscreensaver to use the screensaver settings?
[16:17] <rconan> or do I need to change something to manage which one gets started
[16:17] <piolo> ardchoille, why not?
[16:18] <DarkKnight> i have installed drupal....can anyone tell me how to start using it
[16:18] <javamexico5371> i have a question, how can i modify the PATH enviroment variable in Ubuntu 8.04?
[16:18] <jrib> javamexico5371: for what purpose?
[16:18] <ardchoille> piolo: The output I am seeing is "Only in /path1/dir1: filename"  if you remove the path and dir there's no way to see what the diff is
[16:18] <piolo> find dir1 file1; find dir2 file2l diff file1 file2?
[16:19] <sipior> DarkKnight: lots of documentation available at the drupal web site...
[16:19] <oCean_> javamexico5371: "export PATH=$PATH:/dir/to/bin"
[16:19] <ardchoille> piolo: how do you know what the "dir" bit is if diff doesn't list it?
[16:19] <javamexico5371> mmmm ... i am developing in JavaFX and i found teh SDK for linux, but i have to modify this variable
[16:19] <javamexico5371> ok thanks
[16:19] <oCean_> javamexico5371: and/or edit your ~/.profile to modify PATH variable also for the next time you login
[16:20] <piolo> ardchoille, what do you mean?
[16:20] <ardchoille> piolo: nevermind, this is getting ot
[16:20] <ValentineX> hi there was some command to auto remove/install remaining installations/removals, i was installing and removing some files ther electric power went off.
[16:20] <bojtel> any1 know how to play a dvd disc in utuntu?
[16:21] <javamexico5371> thanks .. but this file is in the root directory or in the personal directory?
[16:21] <ton1> i am using cyrus-imap is there another program better?
[16:21] <Slart> piolo: try this ...     diff -r ./etc /etc 2>/dev/null | sed 's/Only in .*: //' -
[16:21] <evowill> !dvd | bojtel
[16:21] <oCean_> piolo: see the man page. The -q switch is maybe what you want? "diff -q dir1/ dir2/"
[16:22] <stufkan> im not sure I understand resolvconf