[09:25] <Tomop> Hi friends!
[09:25] <ikonia> Tomop: you are intending to cause a problem. you had sent me random private messages calling me names before I banned you so I can only assume you want to be a problem
[09:25] <Tomop> Help mew please! I need help!
[09:25] <ikonia> don't bother trying to negotiate the ban be removed. Just leave.
[09:26] <Tomop> wwhy?
[15:12] <bazhang> and for !details...: 12.04
[15:57] <bazhang> massive join of julian's in #kubuntu
[15:59] <tsimpson> someone's playing with quassel
[16:00] <bazhang> quassel is nice, but that seems overdone
[16:30] <bazhang> he wants firefox-cli
[17:41] <Pici> ramprasadgk was asking the same thing in ##windows a few minutes ago
[17:41] <bazhang> yep
[17:41] <bazhang> no idea why monkeydust redirected him to another channel
[17:42] <IdleOne> Guess he thought it was funny
[17:54] <bazhang> Win8 is a free download, last I checked
[17:54] <bioterror> just like windows 7 was before it was really released
[17:54] <Pici> But they were looking for the pireted [sic] edition.
[17:54] <bazhang> no idea why or how he'd pirate a *free* download
[17:55] <bazhang> hehe yeah pireted
[17:55] <bazhang> misspelling that merited a ban all by itself
[17:55] <bioterror> what would Red from that 70's show say?-)
[17:56] <IdleOne> You're grounded!
[17:59] <bioterror> :D
[21:48] <h00k> Hi bioterror. Your name is read, meaning I haven't seen you around too often
[21:59] <bioterror> I'm almost always around ;)


[18:39] <naptastic> Hi! I have a host I want to switch from NetworkManager to Netplan. As it is, NetworkManager is able to get the host on-line enough for me to log in and do the rest of the configuration by hand.
[18:40] <naptastic> ("Or," I thought to myself, "I could just use the right tool for the job")
[18:40] <naptastic> Is there a way to generate generate configuration files automatically based on how I have things set up right now?
[19:33] <naptastic> ok, better question: What's the right category or interface type for an IPoIB interface?


[11:03] <chrisccoulson> heh - http://www.omgchrome.com/
[11:04] <chrisccoulson> no omgfirefox though
[13:19] <fta2> chrisccoulson, what's that?
[13:19] <fta2> http://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/group/chromium-bugs/browse_thread/thread/bd28d3f4432e131b
[13:20] <chrisccoulson> fta2, they have something else installed on their system depending on one of the birtual packages provided by firefox or chromium
[13:20] <chrisccoulson> ie, not a firefox or chromium bug, but PEBKAC
[13:21] <chrisccoulson> (perhaps dpkg could be more helpful though)
[13:21] <fta2> the what's that question was for omgchrome
[13:21] <chrisccoulson> fta2 - oh, sorry ;)
[13:21] <chrisccoulson> i thought it was for the link
[13:22] <fta2> sorry
[13:22] <chrisccoulson> i guess that omgchrome is the chrome equivalent of omgubuntu
[13:22] <fta2> by the same guys?
[13:22] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i think so
[13:23] <fta2> omgubuntu seems to be a canonical relay nowadays
[13:30] <fta2> http://memeburn.com/2011/06/browser-ubuntu-chrome-is-the-new-firefox/
[13:32] <fta2> did he really say all that?
[13:48] <fta2> chrisccoulson, ^^
[13:51] <chrisccoulson> fta2, honestly, i've got no idea ;)
[13:51] <chrisccoulson> although, some of their facts are wrong
[13:51] <chrisccoulson> eg, nothing is scheduled to change in 12.04, as that's the LTS
[13:52] <chrisccoulson> if we were switching to chromium, it would be for 12.10, unless something has changed ;)
[14:22] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, is there a way to enumerate over all mail folders in thunderbird?
[14:23] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: certainly - let me find it, hang on...
[14:23] <chrisccoulson> i'm trying to find an API for getting access to that :)
[14:24] <fta2> do you guys have a screenshot of a recent tb /wi unity?
[14:25] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: https://github.com/bwinton/TbAir/blob/master/content/hometab.js#L76
[14:26] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: you'll need to import fixIterator from resource:///modules/iteratorUtils.jsm
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, cool, thanks. taking a look
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> fta2, not much has changed atm, although you can see a mockup of the planned visual changes
[14:26] <chrisccoulson> http://www.andreasn.se/blog/?p=172
[14:27] <fta2> oh thanks. still looks too alien to me
[14:28] <fta2> anyway, even if i wanted to, i can't switch
[14:28] <fta2> it doesn't work for me (at work)
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, oh, iteratorUtils.jsm looks useful. how come this is only in thunderbird?
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> it seems like it could be useful in firefox too ;)
[14:48] <chrisccoulson> using nsISimpleEnumerator is a pain usually
[14:49] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: *shrugs*, I guess we just got sick and tired of SimpleEnumerator. :p
[14:49] <chrisccoulson> heh
[14:50] <chrisccoulson> i can see why ;)
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, no daily builds today then
[16:05]  * fta wonders when the ppa builders will be back...
[16:07] <chrisccoulson> fta - me too ;)
[16:08] <fta> maybe i should turn all arch-all debs into real arch debs, so when one arch is late, it doesn't impact the other
[16:22] <fta> i kind of like that cros browser thing...
[16:22] <fta> i wonder if i should dig a bit more
[17:11] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, how did you figure anything out with libindicate? our documentation sucks
[17:12] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: trial and error.  :)
[17:12] <chrisccoulson> lol
[17:12] <chrisccoulson> we should bug ted to right some proper documentation
[17:12] <chrisccoulson> the current reference manual is awful :/
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, is it intentional that thunderbird is currently using libnotify for notifications on ubuntu, or is that a bug?
[17:43] <chrisccoulson> (it used to use its own notifications)
[18:06]  * micahg hopes that something actually fixed it :)
[18:10] <m_conley> chrisccoulson / micahg: yeah, I patched it for libnotify
[18:10] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it falls back to the old notification if libnotify isn't available.
[18:10] <micahg> \o/
[18:11] <micahg> m_conley: starting with which version?
[18:11] <micahg> and can we get this in Firefox as well
[18:11] <m_conley> micahg: I think it got in in 5.0
[18:11] <micahg> is this due to your extension or in actual thunderbird?
[18:12] <m_conley> micahg: actual thunderbird.
[18:12] <m_conley> micahg: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555536
[18:12] <ubot2> Mozilla bug 555536 in Mail Window Front End "alert on new message does not appear as specified in preferences" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, so, it's still not clear to me whether we're meant to display message folders all the time, or just on new messages atm (i realized when i read the spec again that it's not obvious)
[18:14] <chrisccoulson> so, i'll keep it as it is at the moment (only show folders on new messages)
[18:14] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: mmhmm - I wasn't sure either.
[18:14] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it's not *too* bad to switch back and forth
[18:14]  * micahg really should switch to 5
[18:14] <m_conley> micahg: do it! :D
[18:15] <chrisccoulson> i'm just doing a bit of tidying up atm, adjusting how the count works and making it so it shows the count for all folders rather than just the inbox
[18:15] <chrisccoulson> hopefully i'll have a merge proposal later, and then we can get this in :)
[18:15] <micahg> m_conley: I just like the benefit of dogfooding my security updates ATM :)
[18:15] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: cool!
[18:15] <m_conley> micahg: ;)
[18:41] <onebitxajax> hi to all
[18:42] <onebitxajax> where 8is the channel that can help me
[18:42] <onebitxajax> with developing an extension?
[18:42] <onebitxajax> extension for mozilla
[18:43] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, what is the date-in-seconds stuff meant to do?
[18:44] <chrisccoulson> onebitxajax, #extdev on irc.mozilla.org might be a good start, although we might be able to help in here (but i'm pretty busy atm though)
[18:45] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it's a way for us to ensure that when we click on the indicator, we are taken to the *first* message that indicated for that folder.
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, ah, that makes sense now
[18:46] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[18:47] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: np
[19:07] <onebitxajax> chrisccoulsonn thansk very m,uxch
[19:23] <onebitxajax> nobody reply there
[19:23] <onebitxajax> :/
[20:50] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, do you know if it's possible to pass a jsval as a pointer in to C function via ctypes, and then dereference it later on when that pointer is passed as an argument to a callback?
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> if that doesn't make sense, i'm thinking of how i would use the data argument in g_signal_connect_data()
[20:51] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: so you can pass primitives safely enough
[20:51] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: ints, char *, etc
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, but not, say, an instance of a particular JS class?
[20:51] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: I have a feeling you'd hit seropis trouble with JS objects, for example.
[20:51] <m_conley> s/seropis/serious
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i thought so :(
[20:52] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: no.  A workaround - have a lookup table, and pass keys for that lookup table around.
[20:52] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: it's the best I could come up with.  :/
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, yeah, that's what i was just thinking too
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> i keep hitting limitations with ctypes ;)
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> i should write them all down really
[20:55] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: yeah, there are some drawbacks - but the advantages really outweigh them, I think.
[21:59] <BUGabundo> evening folks


[12:13] <beuno> Burgundavia: you're editing it, right?
[12:14] <Burgundavia> nope
[12:15] <beuno> oh, so, who deleted 3/4 of the UWN #35?
[12:16] <Burgundavia> Samyel did apparently
[12:16] <beuno> I don't want to go back a revision and undo someone's changes
[12:16] <Burgundavia> ah, is nothing
[12:16] <Burgundavia> reverted
[12:17] <beuno> ah, great
[12:18] <beuno> I'll add the case studies bit, then after your ubuntu magazine one, I think we have a pretty good UWN
[12:18] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[12:18] <beuno> I'm sure poningru will get it dugg  :p
[12:19] <Burgundavia> I am going to need help on this RC page
[12:19] <beuno> ok, I can help out, when is it due?
[12:19] <Burgundavia> 11th
[12:20] <beuno> aight, I'll see if I can work on it a bit after UWN is out
[12:20] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[12:28] <beuno> Burgundavia: all done, you're up
[12:28] <Burgundavia> ok, sounds good
[12:29] <beuno> seems I'm sounding pretty good today, must be that new tea I bought....   :p
[12:31] <boredandblogging> hey guys, anything left to be done
[12:31] <beuno> boredandblogging: you didn't leave very much to do  :D
[12:31] <beuno> almost done
[12:31] <boredandblogging> cool
[12:34] <beuno> boredandblogging: actually, one last thing, once Burgundavia is done, you can update the bug stats to today's
[12:34] <Burgundavia> go ahead, I am doing other stuff right now
[12:34] <beuno> we tend to add them in the last minute for them to be as accurate as possible
[12:34] <boredandblogging> right, I'll take care of it
[12:47] <boredandblogging> beuno, bug stats are up to date
[12:47] <beuno> great
[12:48] <Burgundavia> ok, let me proof
[01:41] <beuno> Burgundavia, you think it's proven by now?  :p
[01:41] <Burgundavia> beuno: Samyel is busy editing it right now
[01:42] <Samyel> just tidying up caps, mostly
[01:42] <Samyel> and not deleting >_<
[01:42] <beuno> hahaha
[01:54] <Samyel> okay, gentlemen, hopefully I didn't accidentally axe half the newsletter this time.
[01:54] <beuno> doesn't seem so
[01:57] <beuno> Burgundavia: it seems we're just missing the piece on the magazine
[01:57] <beuno> want to lave it for next one?
[01:58] <Burgundavia> yep, sounds good
[01:58] <Admiral_Chicago> any news on UWN?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> we close to release
[01:59] <beuno> ok, releasing now
[01:59] <beuno> :D
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> dang, I wanted to include Flourish info but its too late Z(
[01:59] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: go for it
[02:00] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: will do. I'd hate to not see Ubuntu Chicago LoCo not get recognizes
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: no LoCo news section?
[02:04] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: removed it because there was none
[02:04] <beuno> add it!
[02:04] <Admiral_Chicago> okay will do
[02:14] <beuno> Admiral_Chicago: ping me when you're done so I can release
[02:14] <Admiral_Chicago> okay, getting some information
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> beuno: done
[02:20] <beuno> great
[02:20] <beuno> releasing then
[02:25] <beuno> Burgundavia: sent the email
[02:32] <beuno> ok, Burgundavia, you have to get it through the mailing list and into the fridge, jenda, you have to get it un the forums, boredandblogging, poningru, digg and reddit
[02:34] <boredandblogging> i don't have a digg or reddit account, but I'll make one
[02:34] <beuno> oh
[02:34] <beuno> sorry
[02:34] <beuno> not you
[02:34] <beuno> it was adam and poningru
[02:34] <beuno> don't worry about it
[02:35] <beuno> I got it mixed up
[02:35] <boredandblogging> right, I think adam is unavailable, poningru is supposed to do it
[02:35] <beuno> yeap
[02:42] <beuno> ok
[02:42] <beuno> I'm out
[02:52] <poningru> boredandblogging: ubuntumarketing and c4n0nic4l
[02:54] <boredandblogging> poningru, i'll post it on both
[02:56] <beuno> boredandblogging: send me the link so I can digg it too
[02:59] <boredandblogging> poningru, that login isn't working
[03:04] <boredandblogging> doesn't work on digg or reddit
[05:07] <Burgundavia> beuno: I can do digg as well
[05:13] <Burgundavia> beuno: cleared
[05:15] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: you did the digging bit?
[05:18] <Burgundavia> beuno: fridge done
[05:20] <Burgundavia> beuno: digg done http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Weekly_News_35_released
[05:20] <Burgundavia> boredandblogging: ^
[06:04] <cX-kads> What would I need to do to a hold realease party at my Universit?
[06:05] <cX-kads> Do I need permission? and Can I get SWAG and CDS
[06:05] <cX-kads> in bulk
[06:14] <nixternal> cX-kads: you don't need permission, Swag and CDs will more than likely be a negative unless you are an official/approved LoCo team
[06:14] <nixternal> and even then, CDs won't be released by release
[06:16] <cX-kads> I know
[06:16] <cX-kads> But I want to do it for the next release and plan ahead
[06:16] <cX-kads> What do I need to make an  official/approved LoCo team
[06:50] <elkbuntu> cX-kads, loco teams discussions/planning/questions usually happen in #ubuntu-locoteams
[06:51] <elkbuntu> nixternal, anyone can request a conference pack
[06:52] <elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences
[06:55] <nixternal> *Conference Pack approval is at Canonical's discretion"
[06:55] <nixternal> and let me just say, either they used their discretion or never replied to my request
[06:55] <nixternal> and because of so, Ubuntu had the worst layout at this weeks open source conference
[06:56] <nixternal> and even Chris DiBona and Peter Brown commented on how they were't happy that we didn't give them something
[06:56] <cX-kads> thx elk
[07:00] <elkbuntu> nixternal, it was last minute on easter weekend. what on earth did you expect?
[07:00] <nixternal> last minute? 2 months ago wasn't last minute
[07:00] <nixternal> you can ask jono and mark about it, they both received the information on it as well
[07:00] <elkbuntu> nixternal, this isnt the chicago thing that cropped up last minute expecting a booth etc?
[07:01] <nixternal> well the talks were last minute, the booths were iffy
[07:01] <nixternal> doesn't matter though, even the other distros with their schwag got defeated in the talks and the battle of the distros :)
[07:02] <elkbuntu> nixternal, i thought there was an event that was just going to be loco people attending until they had a booth and talks thrown at them in the last week or so?
[07:02] <nixternal> all we requested in the conference pack as stickers, cds, and flyers
[07:03] <nixternal> no, about 1,500 Chicago OSS people and non-oss newbies attended
[07:04] <nixternal> the booth wasn't thrown at us, I brought it up jokingly with Corey because of a conversation we had last year
[07:04] <nixternal> we still had our one booth, we just didn't realize how extravagant it was going to be, so I brought up the banner thing with him
[07:04] <nixternal> months back we were told a small table to distribute schwag at
[07:05] <nixternal> heh, it was kind of funny..all of the other distros didn't have many people around them. There were at any given time 100+ people around us and the Neuros OSD guys
[07:06] <nixternal> we lured people in with cookies and pepsi, thanks to Google
[07:07] <elkbuntu> nixternal, i requested a conference pack for LCA and got only cds (albeit 1000 of them) of only one type and a small handful of the stickers
[07:07] <nixternal> ya, we just wanted a small amount of pretty much the same thing
[07:07] <elkbuntu> but if it makes you feel better, i will be proposing a spec regarding loco resources for UDS
[07:07] <nixternal> we had about 50 to 100 6.10 CDs, and about 500 6.06 CDs
[07:07] <nixternal> we left with none
[07:07] <elkbuntu> ... if one can ever submit a spec to the sprint
[07:08] <nixternal> man, I don't feel like giving a talk tomorrow morning
[07:08] <nixternal> can I hire someone to do it for me?
[07:09] <nixternal> I will say one thing that the LoCo has done, I am giving at least a talk a week now. Don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing
[07:09] <elkbuntu> if you can email me the history of the problem above such as 'when you found out about the conf' 'when you first asked for schwag' 'how many times you tried' and such sort of q's, i'll be able to call it as evidence if needed ;)
[07:09] <nixternal> I love how they tell me the other day that there should be about 25 or so people for the talk...umm it was standing room only..I was sweatin' bullets
[07:09] <nixternal> I can gather all of the emails and forward them to ya
[07:10] <nixternal> I think we found out about the conf in October. I will have to check on the mark and jono emails
[07:10] <elkbuntu> ok, but remember sharing personal emails without permission is a dangerous thing
[07:11] <nixternal> well, all it was to them was me asking if they would be interested in speaking
[07:11] <nixternal> I won't send their replies, which were both no, but still :)
[07:11] <nixternal> haha
[07:11] <elkbuntu> ah ok
[07:11] <nixternal> well not no, but umm...WE ARE TOO BUSY!
[07:11] <nixternal> hehe
[07:12] <elkbuntu> heh
[07:12] <nixternal> actually I think Jono was the one that told me about the conference
[07:13] <elkbuntu> ok, collate into one giant mail, preferably including header info for date reference, and hit my inbox with it
[07:13] <nixternal> or maybe Mark, because Samir at UIC contacted him first about giving a talk
[07:14] <elkbuntu> include the first contact from whomever, i'll be discreet with using it
[07:14] <nixternal> hrmm, Ubuntu Chicago is coming up on a year as official, we were a year old last week. I think it is time for some fresh leadership over there
[07:15] <elkbuntu> where = 'there'?
[07:15] <elkbuntu> the team?
[07:15] <nixternal> ya
[07:16] <nixternal> hah, I met the guy yesterday whose job was offered to me recently. and I hated the fact we had to tear him up in the battle of the distros
[07:16] <elkbuntu> heh... what job?
[07:16] <nixternal> there will be a pic shortly, we are calling it "the hug heard around the world". It started out as Ubuntu and Red Hat/Fedora hugging, then everyone got in and had a distro hug
[07:17] <nixternal> Red Hat Marketing
[07:17] <elkbuntu> o.O
[07:17] <nixternal> but umm...I kind of figured that would be a conflict of interest
[07:17] <nixternal> so I happily turned it down
[07:17] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:18] <nixternal> I can't believe they still offered me a position after the interview when I told them I don't like their package management, nor their position within the market and how they target distros wrongly
[07:19] <nixternal> but if all goes well, I might/hope I get this IBM offer as Business Customer Linux Liason/Manager
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> nice
[07:19] <nixternal> granted IBM isn't the greatest at Free and Open Source, but they would allow me to work and continue on with school and Ubuntu
[07:19] <nixternal> some of the perks of trying to finish your masters at Kellogg
[07:20] <nixternal> and not Tony the Tiger Kellogs either
[07:21] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:22] <nixternal> my dad makes fun of that one still
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> "My degree is gonna be GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAAAT!"
[07:25] <elkbuntu> nixternal, any idea when jono sneaks off to brazil? you and joey seem to get to talk to him more than i do these days
[07:25] <nixternal> actually, the last I talked to Jono is when he asked about Ubuntu Live
[07:25] <nixternal> I think it is like right now
[07:25] <nixternal> if he hasn't already left
[07:26] <elkbuntu> poop
[07:26] <nixternal> probably been a month since I last talked to him
[07:27] <nixternal> wow, been over a month
[07:27] <elkbuntu> ah ok. i just figured you and joey were in cohorts with him when joey went all taskmaster on the loco meetings
[07:27] <elkbuntu> (and yeah, i know we're overdue for one)
[07:28] <nixternal> just a little
[07:28] <nixternal> I haven't talked to Joey in a while either
[07:28] <nixternal> actually, I have only talked to #*-doc, #*-motu, and #kubuntu-devel
[07:28] <elkbuntu> hehe
[07:29] <nixternal> or #kde-*
[07:29] <nixternal> I am trying to spend more time with development stuff lately
[07:30] <elkbuntu> fair enough. it is the business end of the cycle
[07:31] <nixternal> ya, and after rewriting and creating a topic based help system for Kubuntu from scratch, I am worn out right now
[07:32] <elkbuntu> hehe
[07:32] <elkbuntu> i know the feeling
[07:32] <nixternal> I think I am pushing damn near half of my life on IRC
[07:32] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:32] <nixternal> the longest I have gone w/o being connected to an IRC server is maybe 1 or 2 days
[07:33] <nixternal> since IRC was born
[07:33] <nixternal> I went from BBS/Mud straight to it
[07:33] <nixternal> and I still can't figure it out :)
[07:33] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:33] <nixternal> hell, I had someone (a girl) prvmsg me the other day with a/s/l and was dead serious
[07:33] <nixternal> 12/f/in bed was my answer
[07:34] <nixternal> haha
[07:34] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:34] <nixternal> I was this .. close to blogging that one, but seeing the recent stuff that has been going on, I kind of figured that might be a touchy subject
[07:34] <nixternal> but it is still logged for a future date ;p
[07:34] <elkbuntu> i usually respond with 99/hermaphrodite/psych ward
[07:35] <nixternal> ooh nice
[07:35] <nixternal> makes me want to puke, but nice
[07:35] <elkbuntu> feel free to use it
[07:35] <nixternal> I just might add that one to my email signature
[07:35] <elkbuntu> lol
[07:37] <nixternal> ooh, I was wrong, in 4 days Ubuntu Chicago will be 1 year old
[07:37] <elkbuntu> hehe
[07:38] <nixternal> thank god for wikis and forum posts to keep you right on time
[07:39] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:40] <elkbuntu> we're over a year formed, a few months from a year official though
[07:40] <elkbuntu> iirc
[07:41] <nixternal> I can't remember if Colorado and Chicago became official in June or July
[07:44] <nixternal> ColoradoTeam (JoeyStanford) (July 11)
[07:44] <nixternal> KurdishTeam (ErdalRonahi) (July 11)
[07:44] <nixternal> ChicagoTeam (RichJohnson) (July 11)
[07:44] <nixternal> well there you have it, it was a pain to locate since the "Get Info" ont he wiki only goes back so far
[07:44] <nixternal> so you take random guesses at the revision number until you get it
[07:46] <nixternal> oh well, time to crash...t-minus 8hrs and 15mins until my wonderful talk on Free, Open, Now talk
[07:46] <nixternal> g'nite to all lla ot etin'g
[02:30] <boredandblogging> poningru, ping
[02:32] <poningru> boredandblogging: pong
[02:32] <poningru> sorry about last night
[02:32] <poningru> had one too many
[02:32] <poningru> was in noo condition to do anything
[02:35] <poningru> boredandblogging?
[02:36] <boredandblogging> poningru, sorry, I thought UWN had not been dugg yet, nm
[02:42] <poningru> ah cool
[10:12] <juliux> hi mindspin
[10:12] <mindspin> hi juliux


[00:21] <dougstew> We are about to upgrade windows on a dual boot machine. how do we do this without loosing grub?
[13:46] <dougstew> jwe


[14:12] <scootergrisen> Can someone help me with lanuchpad. I'm sure i suggested som string changes but now they seem to have been remove. How can i find them again?