[00:00] <Pastafarian> try putting the ~ section in comments
[00:00] <Pastafarian> i.e.
[00:00] <Pastafarian> "~/.conky/conkyrc_grey"
[00:00] <Pastafarian> or try the full path
[00:01] <mrrcp> ok
[00:01] <mrrcp> brb Pastafarian
[00:02] <wizbit> 8~
[00:02] <ineedhelp> it shows under addons manager that the plugin for flash in not there
[00:02] <Pastafarian> are you in chrome?
[00:02] <ineedhelp> no firefox
[00:02] <Pastafarian> thats weird
[00:02] <Pastafarian> hold on lemme take a look
[00:03] <HyElan> 呵呵
[00:03] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, is this stock ubuntu?
[00:03] <mrrcp> haha!
[00:04] <mrrcp> you tha man Pastafarian
[00:04] <ineedhelp> what do you mean by stock?
[00:04] <mrrcp> full path worked
[00:04] <Pastafarian> I've had strange path issues like that before
[00:04] <mrrcp> weird
[00:04] <iUnify> reisio: I am in config editor right now... you'd said this which I didn't fully get " iUnify: you copy a line in /etc/fstab and specify the UUID or LABEL of the FS of the device you're talking about [19:42] == CyberJacob|Away has changed nick to CyberJacob [19:42] <reisio> iUnify: which /sbin/blkid will tell you"  - for starters where is /etc
[00:04] <Pastafarian> I usually get around them by full path or cd'ing
[00:04] <mrrcp> yea good to know
[00:04] <ineedhelp> pasta what do you mean by stock?
[00:04] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, which brand on ubuntu did you install
[00:04] <Pastafarian> i.e. there is ubuntu, kubuntu
[00:04] <Pastafarian> xubuntu
[00:05] <ineedhelp> unubuntu
[00:05] <ineedhelp> ubuntu
[00:05] <Pastafarian> thats stock ubuntu ;)
[00:05] <Pastafarian> close up firefox
[00:05] <Pastafarian> and run
[00:05] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-restricted-extras && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:06] <ineedhelp> kk i will be back :P
[00:06] <Pastafarian> ok
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, Try youtube
[00:06] <mrrcp> crap
[00:06] <mrrcp> now its running ON TOP
[00:07] <mrrcp> hmm
[00:07] <Pastafarian> aha conky does that sometimes
[00:07] <Pastafarian> I believe that minimising and maximising should fix that
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> heh.. cant say ive had that issue in ages with conky
[00:08] <Pastafarian> or check the conky config
[00:08] <Pastafarian> conky can be weird
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> been using that conky-manager tool the last few weeks.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> it makes conky fairly user friendly
[00:08] <Pastafarian> haven't even heard of it
[00:08] <Pastafarian> is it cross OS?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned conky-manager a few min ago in here.
[00:09] <ineedhelp> done
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> its mentioned at the webupd8 or omgubuntu blog sites
[00:09] <Pastafarian> I did mean prior ofc
[00:09] <Pastafarian> I'm in arch :P
[00:09] <Pastafarian> and I don't follow ubuntu
[00:09] <Pastafarian> except server anyway
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> its basically a set of themes and a gui tool to configure the themes.
[00:10] <ineedhelp> okay i did that
[00:10] <Pastafarian> I'll probably find it in the AUR
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> has about 30+ differnt theme/setups
[00:10] <Pastafarian> try using youtube
[00:10] <ineedhelp> kk
[00:10] <ineedhelp> it works:P
[00:11] <Pastafarian> good good.
[00:11] <ineedhelp> what i need must not be flash player then...
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> the gui lets you select what conky 'configs' to use. and lets you tweak the configs with the gui. so you can set the colors. position, and even some other aspects of the configs like the network device. position,m and time format
[00:11] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, one thing
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, In FF plugins its called shockwave flash I believe
[00:11] <ineedhelp> yea it was not there
[00:11] <Pastafarian> do you plan on using stuff like iPlayer or 4oD
[00:12] <Pastafarian> i.e. online tv
[00:12] <ineedhelp> probably
[00:12] <mesoderm> When trying to boot from the livecd I get the following error: "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block" ... any idea what's causing this?
[00:12] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, been in dire need of that for a long time conky has
[00:12] <ineedhelp> what i am trying to get work is a chat room called chatforfree.org
[00:12] <mesoderm> It's weird because I am able to boot a debian livecd, and I was even able to boot the Ubuntu livecd once and run off the CD. When I rebooted to actually install ubuntu, it wouldn't boot for some reason and gave me that error
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> ineedhelp, Did you restart it after installing the restricted extras, it should of been closed anyway.
[00:12] <ineedhelp> yes i did
[00:12] <Pastafarian> mesoderm, that is usually when a kernel was compiled corrupt or with missing parts
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Pastafarian:  theres been some other simniler tools out for the last year or 3  - conky seems to get a spike in popularity for a bit.. then dies off. ;)
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> i tnd to fullscreen all my apps. so i dont even use conky much on most machines
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> mesoderm, check the sum, and make sure you have good burn, is this a ubuntu ISO?
[00:13] <ineedhelp> does anyone know what this chat site uses ? chatforfree.org?
[00:13] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, I verified that the CD burned correctly and it already booted once (I was able to use the desktop on the livecd just fine -- it wasn't until I rebooted that it didn't work)
[00:13] <pinPoint> is there a good tutorial out there to install apache 2.4 and php5.4 from apt-get versions on 12.04 lts now?
[00:13] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, seems to work for me with flash ok here
[00:13] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, irony eh
[00:13] <ineedhelp> that chat site?
[00:14] <Pastafarian> I was arguing with the devs earlier about this
[00:14] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, yes
[00:14] <mesoderm> (And it's a Xubuntu ISO)
[00:14] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, I suggest googling for a apache 2.4 ubuntu PPA
[00:14] <mrrcp> -p 60 fixed thatr
[00:14] <Pastafarian> there's quite a few to choose from
[00:14] <ineedhelp> do you have any other plugins installed that would affect it cause all i have is a black screen lol
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> Pastafarian, You, arguing, no do tell. ;)
[00:14] <Pastafarian> but be aware they are no where near as easily maintained
[00:14] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, It works fine on my other computers too
[00:15] <Pastafarian> wilee-nilee, they don't want to update to 2.4 in LTS, its a security issue with RC4 likely being cracked and forward secrecy not working due to 2.22
[00:15] <sfarber53> Is this a good place to ask questions about the xfce interface?
[00:15] <Pastafarian> Nor do they want to speed up rolling it out
[00:15] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: did you get your install going?
[00:15] <Pastafarian> Unfortunately pinPoint I cannot push PPAs to production :/
[00:15] <Pastafarian> However I am fairly sure they work
[00:16] <ineedhelp> pasta the home page for the site comes up but when i go to login it is just a black screen
[00:16] <Pastafarian> just make sure you've purged all the 2.22 packages
[00:16] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: to production as in a production environ. in your place?
[00:16] <Pastafarian> one sec ineedhelp I'll have a look
[00:16] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, yeah.
[00:16] <ineedhelp> thanks mate i appreciate all of your help:)
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> sfarber53, ask and you will see. ;)
[00:17] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, I have it working in chrome
[00:17] <Pastafarian> testing ff now
[00:17] <ineedhelp> that is weird
[00:17] <pinPoint> what are you two working on?
[00:18] <ineedhelp> he is helping me get on a site
[00:18] <ineedhelp> something is not letting me use it
[00:18] <pinPoint> My apache 2.2 works fine, I just want that bleeding edge security stuff, speed enhancements
[00:18] <pinPoint> i see
[00:18] <Pastafarian> works for me in both ineedhelp
[00:18] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, me too
[00:18] <ineedhelp> maybe i need to restart my computer....
[00:18] <Pastafarian> I want Forward secrecy running yesterday
[00:18] <ineedhelp> brb
[00:18] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, try that it might help
[00:19] <Pastafarian> 2.2 is great, but it doesn't support the modern ciphers that I want to use
[00:19] <pinPoint> I want PFS too!!
[00:19] <Pastafarian> at the moment 2.22 only works in chrome and safari I think
[00:19] <pinPoint> I also want to force at least tlsV1.1+ on everyone
[00:19] <Pastafarian> pin you should be able to do that
[00:19] <Pastafarian> give me a sec to check my server and its config
[00:20] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: I use SSLCipherSuite ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:RC4+SHA:!DH:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA
[00:20] <Pastafarian> I was pretty sure we were running with 1.1 higher though it might be 1.0+
[00:21] <Pastafarian> scan your server with https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest for tips
[00:21] <pinPoint> i did
[00:21] <pinPoint> got an A
[00:21] <pinPoint> but i see only about 3 1.2tls' in there
[00:21] <Pastafarian> a newp, I still support 1.0
[00:21] <junktext> I can't stick around on chat (as I have to go somewhere, but I'll still idle), but if anybody has experience with fixing Steam, I have posted it on the forums here (so please respond there if you have any suggestions):  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171881
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> still not working.....
[00:22] <Pastafarian> I get 1.2 on safari and chrome with FS
[00:22] <nightdrever> i use thunderbird for an hotmail account however i dont get messages in tunderbird that in hotmail they go to a pop folder..... is there away to fix this?
[00:22] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp, I'm a bit limited as I am not in ubuntu for comparison
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> its fine lol
[00:22] <Pastafarian> do other sites with flash work ok?
[00:22] <ineedhelp_> youtube does that is why i said it might be another plugin
[00:22] <Pastafarian> youtube might not be a great test because if you dont have flash it uses html5
[00:22] <pinPoint> I get no FS anywhere. :/
[00:23] <pinPoint> but I do have a 100, 95,90,90 score so I don't know
[00:23] <Pastafarian> lemme read out my settings
[00:23] <ineedhelp_> hold on i will try another site
[00:24] <OerHeks> nightdrever, i thought hotmail was dead, and you have to switch to 16 char-password-max outlook ?
[00:24] <Pastafarian> SSLCipherSuite EECDH+AES:EDH+AES:-SHA1:EECDH+RC4:EDH+RC4:RC4-SHA:EECDH+AES256:EDH+AES256:AES256-SHA:!aNULL:!eNULL:!EXP:!LOW:!MD5
[00:24] <Pastafarian> that gives
[00:24] <ineedhelp_> ahh what
[00:25] <Pastafarian> 100 95 08 90
[00:25] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, I was chatting to pinPoint
[00:25] <ineedhelp_> o lol
[00:25] <marcoo> i can't make Transmission work properly, i want to set the priority of a file but it wont let me
[00:26] <marcoo> how can i do that?
[00:26] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, any progress?
[00:26] <mesoderm> Is there anything bad that will happen if I deactivate UEFI boot in the BIOS and use CSM?
[00:27] <ineedhelp_> i am trying to see if there is a plugin that i might need that i do not have installed
[00:27] <mesoderm> (I'm having problems with EFI and radeon driver)
[00:27] <Pastafarian> mesoderm, not likely I think
[00:27] <pinPoint> I got 4 FS where I wasn't able to before but my Key exchange droped to 80 instead of 90
[00:27] <Pastafarian> it will take longer to boot I think
[00:27] <Pastafarian> thats about it
[00:28] <pinPoint> I was getting to Fails on two types of browsers
[00:28] <mesoderm> Pastafarian, OK Thanks. I was just worried that it might break certain hardware or something
[00:28] <ineedhelp_> this just does not make any sense to me what so ever it should work
[00:28] <pinPoint> IE6/XP and IE11/Win8.1
[00:28] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, I think you get a fail on one of the IE
[00:28] <nightdrever> ok my 'junk' mail from hotmail isnt getiing to thunderbird how do i change this?
[00:28] <Pastafarian> that one fails only on IE6
[00:28] <Pastafarian> which is a suitable penalty for using IE6
[00:29] <pinPoint> I want to force 1.1 and force all visitors to upgrade to a newer/latest browser
[00:29] <pinPoint> I mean you can have XP on your machine but still run latest Chrome 29 wwith support for 1.2
[00:29] <pinPoint> so I don't know what the problem is
[00:30] <Pastafarian> indeed, I think if you drop 1.1
[00:30] <Pastafarian> without the other 1.2 suites
[00:30] <Pastafarian> you will fail a lot of browsers
[00:30] <Pastafarian> since apache 2.22 doesnt do most of the 1.2 suites
[00:30] <Pastafarian> rock and hard place...
[00:30] <pinPoint> :/
[00:31]  * wiak is trying to encode somethings but my ubuntu system just reboots randomly
[00:31] <wiak> bah
[00:31] <pinPoint> how about tlsv1.1 minimum, its not much to ask
[00:31] <nightdrever> my 'junk' mail from hotmail isnt getiing to thunderbird how do i change this?
[00:31] <pinPoint> and Eol on all SSLv
[00:32] <gener1c> man , is it only me or does eclipse have issues with java lately
[00:33] <gener1c> no perspective out of the box no highlighting
[00:33] <gener1c> whats going on :(
[00:33] <gener1c> 12.04 LTS FTL
[00:34] <Pastafarian> nightdrever, thats a config on hotmail's side I think
[00:34] <pinPoint> Pastafarian: with #SSLCipherSuite ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:AES256-GCM-SHA384:RC4+SHA:!DH:DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA - I get 100,95,90,90
[00:34] <Pastafarian> you might need to disable their junk filter
[00:34] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, what about FS?
[00:34] <pinPoint> No FS in site... this is depressing.
[00:35] <Pastafarian> yup I compromised to get some FS if not all
[00:35] <ineedhelp_> this just makes no sense i works for you and not me
[00:35] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, you got chromium installed?
[00:35] <Pastafarian> try it with that
[00:35] <ineedhelp_> you are talking about google chrome?
[00:35] <Pastafarian> I'm not in ubuntu, I am in arch linux so it not working isn't so crazy.
[00:35] <Pastafarian> and yeah ineedhelp_
[00:36] <Pastafarian> but it will be chromium for linux
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, You looking in all the possible folders, the ones in the gmail section like spam?
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> what is arch linux
[00:36] <smaudet> gener1c: I don't use eclipse, but if I can point you towards another editor, just use a text editor ;) (any really)
[00:36] <Pastafarian> a different operating system ineedhelp_
[00:36] <smaudet> gener1c: also !ot
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> is it easier to use than ubuntu?
[00:36] <Pastafarian> in short, absolutely not :P
[00:36] <kostkon> ineedhelp_, not really
[00:36] <ineedhelp_> lol
[00:37] <Pastafarian> for a new person to linux, its totally impossible to use I think
[00:37] <bazhang> !ot
[00:37] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ it is not a 'different operating system' in the strict sense - different distro, which means all the CONFIGURATION is very different
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> nightdrever, Doh, ah hotmail, sorry you lookin in ever folder though right
[00:37] <pinPoint> ECDHE_RSA Tlsv1.1, how is https google doing it?
[00:37] <ineedhelp_> smaudet i know that:P
[00:37] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ he is right about it not being 'easier'
[00:37] <mrrcp> nah linux is simple
[00:37] <mrrcp> lol
[00:37] <Pastafarian> pinPoint, they're probably on nginx or another webserver
[00:37] <Pastafarian> mrrcp, the install process for arch is more than a little involved
[00:37] <smaudet> mrrcp: linux is #ubuntu-offtopic sorry for encouraging
[00:38] <smaudet> pinPoint: again, #offtopic, but I think they have/had some custom stuff
[00:38] <gener1c> i installed eclipse and i cant seem to be able to use the jdk part of it
[00:38] <gener1c> no java perspective no new java project no nothing
[00:39] <Pastafarian> indeed, google make their own hardware remember ;P
[00:39] <pinPoint> smaudet: alright, thanks.
[00:39] <Pastafarian> custom servers are highly likely
[00:39] <smaudet> !ot | gener1c
[00:39] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, you got chromium installed?
[00:39] <smaudet> gener1c: try #eclipse perhaps
[00:39] <gener1c> its a package
[00:39] <ineedhelp_> chromie?
[00:39] <ineedhelp_> crome
[00:39] <gener1c> it doesnt install right
[00:39] <Pastafarian> yes
[00:39] <smaudet> eclipse is #eclipse, it is not #ubuntu
[00:39] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install chromium
[00:39] <gener1c> apt-get install eclipse
[00:39] <Pastafarian> its chrome essentially
[00:39] <smaudet> gener1c: look for help from them first
[00:40] <gener1c> fine
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> why the fuck do i search for shit just use the terminal seems to work better
[00:40] <Pastafarian> really?
[00:40] <smaudet> !info eclipse
[00:40] <Pastafarian> what have they called it now?
[00:40] <bazhang> !language | ineedhelp_
[00:40] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ ikr
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> chromium-browser i belive
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> sorry baz
[00:40] <brad9001> 	hello all, I just set up dovecot and I wanted to see what email client you guys would recommend because I dont like thunderbird
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> !info chromium-browser
[00:40] <ineedhelp_> sorry guys
[00:41] <smaudet> !info chromium-browser
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> theres some shoot-em-up game called chromium
[00:41] <smaudet> no info - its there
[00:41] <smaudet> I have it installed
[00:41] <kostkon> !find chromium
[00:41] <smaudet> my update-alternatives knows about it
[00:41] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:41] <Pastafarian> then try opening the site in chrome and see if it loads
[00:42] <ineedhelp_> yea the last command you gave me did not work lol
[00:42] <ineedhelp_> i am getting errors...
[00:42] <smaudet> No...
[00:43] <smaudet> it should be in the repos
[00:43] <smaudet> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/universe amd64 Packages <- my version
[00:43] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[00:43] <Pastafarian> package lists probably not up to date so run the above ^
[00:44] <ineedhelp_> that seems to be working so far
[00:44] <smaudet> The update part will
[00:44] <smaudet> the other part may still error
[00:45] <smaudet> If it doesn't work the ppas you need are here: https://launchpad.net/chromium-browser
[00:46] <Pastafarian> smaudet, I'm sure its meant to be in the repo
[00:46] <Pastafarian> I installed it not too long ago
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> its in the universe repo
[00:47] <Pastafarian> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/chromium-browser/
[00:47] <smaudet> Pastafarian, yeah probably just un-updated repo lists
[00:47] <Pastafarian> it'll work from that using the software center if needed
[00:47] <smaudet> If he's installing chromium for the first time I'll also wager this is a brand new ubuntu install
[00:47] <Pastafarian> true
[00:47] <Anti> Guys i really need help i naad tro change my display but ubuntu cant find the display
[00:48] <Pastafarian> he's trying to get a website working
[00:48] <ineedhelp_> when i go to the site it asks if i want shockwave to run i click yes and then i just get a black screen!
[00:48] <Pastafarian> it only seems to need flash but it won't work with it in firefox
[00:48] <smaudet> Mmm
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> !details | Anti
[00:48] <smaudet> there was a guy in here with a similar problem yesterday
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> err.. shockwave4 is not flash is it?
[00:48] <Pastafarian> shockwave isnt
[00:48] <Dr_Willis> i thought shockwave died out like years ago
[00:48] <andornaut> Anyone have a recommendation for a program that helps create custom install scripts? Essentially a make / ant / etc but more simple - basically for running recipes like d/l this from github, run make && make install, etc. I just create shell scripts now, but I was wondering if there are alternatives for local deployment (so, not ansible / chef / puppet / etc) ?
[00:48] <Pastafarian> shockwave it super dated
[00:48] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, it doesnt ask me for shockwave
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> whats the url?
[00:49] <ineedhelp_> i hate shockwave it is trash
[00:49] <ineedhelp_> this still wont work even with chrome
[00:49] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: Adobe is incredibly confusing. There's Flash, Chrome's Pepper, Gnash, Gordon, Shumway, Shockwave, Air, Flex, and half a dozen Flash IDEs
[00:49] <Anti> Okai i changed my display setting now everytime i boot my pc it boots then loads a black screen
[00:50] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: not to mention about 10 different versions of the flash player
[00:50] <Anti> I changed my display setting using xrandr
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  the login screen dosent work either?
[00:50] <Anti> Nope nothing i only have recovery mode
[00:51] <smaudet> I've rarely seen anyone actually use Shockwave, don't know why they haven't just killed it yet.
[00:51] <Anti> Thats the only way i have to fix this
[00:51] <ineedhelp_> this is irritating....
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  so how did you change your display setting?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  what is the url?
[00:52] <ineedhelp_> www.chatforfree.org
[00:52] <Anti> Well i changfwd ot using xrandr
[00:52] <ineedhelp_> it works with windows
[00:52] <Anti> But before then it was booting in to ubuntu
[00:52] <Anti> Now its not
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  asfar as i know xrandr will not change the res or settings system wide..
[00:52] <Pastafarian> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[00:52] <Anti> :/
[00:52] <client> ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:53] <reisio> iUnify: get it?
[00:53] <Dr_Willis> i diddnt think xrandr changes survived a reboot either
[00:53] <Pastafarian> client?
[00:53] <ineedhelp_> it wont let me sign in on chrome or ff
[00:53] <reisio> you'd probably need to put them into a conf, yeah
[00:53] <Anti> Thats all ive done i made a custom mode
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, For some rteason in my FF adboe flash is called shockwave flash 11.2, must be an inside joke this is the flash from the restricted extras the flash plugin.
[00:54] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, could it be a HAL issue?
[00:54] <reisio> shockwave flash is the older more fuller name of flash :)
[00:54] <reisio> not to be confused with just shockwave
[00:54] <Anti> To allow me to use another screen resolutions now it worked but aftrer restart it shows black screen
[00:54] <kostkon> and it was a macromedia product
[00:54] <reisio> which never really caught on
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> ah, thats what I fighured
[00:55] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, try running this
[00:55] <Pastafarian> sudo apt-get install hal
[00:55] <ineedhelp_> wait reisio
[00:55] <Pastafarian> if they have some kind of weird flash DRM on it
[00:55] <Pastafarian> that could be why
[00:55] <reisio> ineedhelp_: you should only need "flash" for that site
[00:55] <Anti> Should i uninstall xrandr
[00:55] <reisio> pretty unlikely for a site like that
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  that site seems to be working for me. It is using flash
[00:55] <reisio> I don't have a webcam handy to test it
[00:55] <ineedhelp_> okay but shockwave has crashed on me before on that site
[00:55] <Pastafarian> Dr_Willis, I get the same
[00:55] <reisio> but Dr_Willis has :p
[00:55] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, are you sure flash is working?
[00:55] <reisio> ineedhelp_: that's pretty typical on any OS, though :)
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> i got a webcam but i am in a text only chat
[00:55] <Pastafarian> test it on the adobe site
[00:56] <ineedhelp_> kk
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Anti, run just xrandr and it will tell you waht resolutions will work
[00:56] <Anti> No it dont
[00:56] <Anti> It show cant open display
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> Anti, does here is this from a tty?
[00:56] <Anti> Sorry
[00:57] <Anti> Tty ?
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> yea.. i think i will avoid chatforfree in the future.. ;) had 5 people all  wantinbg my A/S/L
[00:57] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[00:57] <smaudet> reisio: are you 100% sure about that? Perhaps I'm thinking of something else but you used to be able to download a seperate shockwave plugin, for stuff that e.g. Shockwave Director produced.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> anti ctrl-alt f1 gets yo to the tty console
[00:57] <ineedhelp_> i can't find the test flash thing lol
[00:57] <reisio> smaudet: right, that never really caught on
[00:57] <Anti> When booting ?
[00:57] <reisio> smaudet: shockwave and shockwave flash, two different things, the latter is now commonly just called 'flash'
[00:57] <smaudet> reisio: you're right, but there were some lone instances of it
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  at any time after the system has booted
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Anti, From the desktop or if the OS is running generally.
[00:58] <reisio> yeah I can remember one or two :p
[00:58] <Dr_Willis> Anti:  alt-ctrl-f# get to the consoles
[00:58] <Pastafarian> ineedhelp_, http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[00:58] <reisio> SWF, shock wave flash, etc. :)
[00:58] <Pastafarian> that should tell you the version
[00:58] <ineedhelp_> it says it is running on my system
[00:58] <Pastafarian> and show the bouncing cube animation
[00:58] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: what version number?
[00:58] <Anti> Okai i have that
[00:58] <smaudet> also what site
[00:59] <Pastafarian> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[00:59] <Pastafarian> ^ that site
[00:59]  * smaudet deep breath
[00:59] <smaudet> here goes
[00:59] <ineedhelp_> it says the version number is 10,1,999,0 which is not even on the list
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Anti, Have you tried a nomodeset boot as well, it is hard to tell if you have the resolution wrong or maybe need graphic drivers.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> or both
[00:59] <Dr_Willis> diving into the shallow and dirty end of the internet pool ;)
[00:59] <Anti> I also get cant open display there
[01:00] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you don't have the pepper flash installed yet then
[01:00] <smaudet> hang on
[01:00] <Anti> In tty1
[01:00] <ineedhelp_> how many flashs do i need geeze lol
[01:00] <Anti> Nope ive not tried that
[01:00] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ ikr? lol
[01:00] <smaudet> anyways go to chrome://plugins and tell me if you see any flash version in there
[01:01] <ineedhelp_> i think this is the 3rd one i should just call adobe and make them figure it out lol
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> Anti, ealier today you said you ran a xrandr resize but did not set it is this correct?
[01:01] <Anti> Yeah i never save it
[01:01] <ineedhelp_> i checked in firefox...
[01:01] <Anti> But i made a cxustom mode
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Anti try this
[01:01] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: ok so here's the dealio
[01:01] <Anti> Okai
[01:01] <smaudet> I have two versions of chrome on my machine
[01:02] <fabiio> ciao
[01:02] <fabiio> !list
[01:02] <smaudet> Version A) is Chromium, it has Flash 11.2 - this may work, but its not going to work very well
[01:02] <ineedhelp_> let me check chrome cause i tried signing in on both
[01:02]  * wilee-nilee wonders why people even use chrome. ;)
[01:02] <smaudet> Version B) is Google Chrome, it has Flash 11.8, which should work just fine
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> cept for the flash I guess
[01:02] <ineedhelp_> where do i check in chrome?
[01:03] <smaudet> so ineedhelp_ you'll need to either A) install the pepper flash plugin into chromium or B) install google chrome
[01:03] <durt> hey folks, anyone know why both onboard audio inputs and my pci audigy ca0106 inputs won't route to outputs, 13.04
[01:03] <smaudet> your choice
[01:03] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you can check in chrome://plugins
[01:03] <smaudet> type that into the url bar
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> i have google chrome it is installed
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> stil does not work
[01:03] <ineedhelp_> lol
[01:05] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: send me a screenshot of your plugins page
[01:05] <Anti> Nope shjow the same thing
[01:05] <ineedhelp_> flash is running on my system
[01:07] <ineedhelp_> what is the command for pepper based flash?
[01:07] <Pastafarian> I would have thought it came with the chromium browser package
[01:07] <Pastafarian> what is in
[01:07] <Pastafarian> chrome://plugins
[01:07] <ineedhelp_> one sec
[01:08] <Pastafarian> goes into chrome's url bar
[01:08] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: paste a screenshot of what's in there, it should look something like this: http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/842/p39i.png
[01:09] <ineedhelp_> it does look like that
[01:09] <ineedhelp_> and it is checked to always allow it was not before tho...
[01:09] <Anti> That never worked
[01:09] <Dr|Craig> anyone install ubuntu on amac
[01:10] <Pastafarian> No but there is not a reason I can think of why it wouldn't work.
[01:10] <ineedhelp_> ik that is why i am confused
[01:10] <Dr|Craig> im using a distro based on ubuntu and I can click with the trackpad but not move it
[01:10] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ can you paste a screenie of what exactly on that site isn't working?
[01:11] <smaudet> I got in just fine as a guest, I may need to find a webcam faker though
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> chromium-browser does not use/come with google;s pepper-flash as far as i know
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> do you know what a black screen looks like?
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> that is what i am getting
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> smaudet:  ;) it worked with 13.10 firefox and flash here.
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> i can't even get the sign in page to appear
[01:11] <Anti> Guys my screen when the system boots looks like its on standby
[01:11] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ do you know how to take a screenshot?
[01:11] <ineedhelp_> yes lol
[01:11] <smaudet> You should just be able to hit 'print screen'
[01:12] <smaudet> ok well then take one and post it plz
[01:12] <smaudet> Your site seems to be fully functional over here on chrome
[01:12] <Anti> :/ i guess i better find my live usb
[01:12] <smaudet> Can't help if you can't be more specific about the problem
[01:13] <Dr|Craig> anti what system are you running and ubuntu build
[01:14] <Anti> Lubuntu and its an gx620 dell
[01:14] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: I'm not even sure what version of a browser ineedhelp_ is running at the moment ;)
[01:14] <smaudet> He may or may not have opened chrome instead of chromium
[01:14] <ineedhelp_> i told you
[01:14] <Kyan`> hi!
[01:14] <Kyan`> someone alive?
[01:14] <ineedhelp_> i have ff and chrome runing
[01:14] <smaudet> Without a screenshot or more information there's not much I can do
[01:14] <Anti> Im running 13:04
[01:14] <Anti> Lubuntu
[01:15] <ineedhelp_> http://imageshack.com/user/jamie.smith.3705157
[01:15] <Dr|Craig> oh when you boot anti press e in grub and remove something that loos like quiet splash
[01:15] <dunizen> Hey fellas.
[01:15] <Kyan`> i've a problem with mtab. string is: " /dev/sda2 /backup ext4 rw 0 0 ", but i'm unable to write on it without root permissions
[01:15] <Anti> I did
[01:15] <dunizen> Can anyone give me a hand with something?
[01:15] <Kyan`> how can i fix it?
[01:15] <Dr|Craig> hmm
[01:15] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ that's not chrome
[01:15] <smaudet> that's chromium
[01:16] <ineedhelp_> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[01:16] <dunizen> Chromium seems to work a lot better than Chrome on linux. I had quite a few problems with it on my last install.
[01:16] <smaudet> dunizen: sure but this is flash player
[01:17] <smaudet> dunizen: and google chrome's flash player seems to work the best (better than 11.2 in chromium or firefox)
[01:17] <dunizen> smaudet: Thats a fair point. I had severe freezing and locking up issues with it though.
[01:17] <dunizen> Was never able to figure it out.
[01:17] <ineedhelp_> okay how do i uninstall chromium in terminal and install "chrome"
[01:17] <Anti> I made my own mode with xrandr ro allow me to run a certain screen resolution and it worked but after restart the pc bpox then the screen goes into standby
[01:18] <grendal-prime> hey guys im trying to use xrdp on this server but every diff machine i log in with its like i get an entirely differnt session
[01:18] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: type sudo apt-get purge chrome
[01:18] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ are you sure you want to uninstall chromium? Anyways the command is sudo apt-get remove chromium-browser
[01:18] <grendal-prime> i really need to log in and get the same session with the same settings as the last machine i loges in with
[01:18] <smaudet> for chrome you want sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[01:18] <dunizen> If you do remove it doesn't take care of the extra files. Purge removes everything.
[01:18] <sudormrf> Hey. I am trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my Windows 8 machine, but the livedisk never seems to start.
[01:19] <smaudet> dunizen: sure but purge removes config, no good if you decide to reinstall later
[01:19] <smaudet> hence why its not default
[01:19] <dunizen> I'm trying to configure xchat to work with the game surge network but when I enter the info it won't connect to the server.
[01:19] <ineedhelp_> unable to locate google-chrome-stable...
[01:19] <dunizen> smaudet: Fair point my friend.
[01:19] <dunizen> You can always download the deb file from the google website.
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  theres no need to uninstall one. You can have google-chrome  and chromium both installed at the same time
[01:19] <dunizen> It automatically will install it for you.
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> the .deb file should add the google repos i belive also
[01:20] <dunizen> It did for me,.
[01:20] <ineedhelp_> well the command to install chrome is saying it cannot find the package
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  what command Exactly?
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome is not in the default repos
[01:20] <dunizen> Yea if you go to google.com and download chrome from there the deb file will install the needed repositories for you.
[01:20] <ineedhelp_> sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | sudormrf
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  you have enabled the google repos?
[01:21] <ineedhelp_> nope no one said i had too...
[01:21] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: mm I have the repo...Dr_Willis: should I just paste the install link or have them add the repo to their sources.list?
[01:21] <smaudet> what's the official recommended path?
[01:21] <dunizen> I'd have him get the deb file.
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  i have said so .and i think it was said earlier
[01:21] <dunizen> Its the most simple
[01:21] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, Take a looky here as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[01:21] <smaudet> k ineedhelp_ install this: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[01:21] <dunizen> There we go :)
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> i think linux is a pieace of crap after using it....
[01:22] <dunizen> It just takes some time to get used to.
[01:22] <dunizen> I hated it at first and now I love it.,
[01:22] <OerHeks> bad flash performance could be a videodriver issue too
 What else do you need help with?
[01:22] <Dr_Willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-linux-12-xx-13-xx/
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> no it is just a pain to set up
[01:22] <ineedhelp_> just getting this site to work
[01:23] <smaudet> ineedhelp_: flash and chrome having problems aren't anything to do with linux
[01:23] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, it seems that most of this assumes that you can actually get the live disk running in the first place...
[01:23] <smaudet> that's chrome and flash's problem.
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> ineedhelp_:  i think you are blaming ubuntu for adobes failures
[01:23] <grendal-prime> yuck
[01:23] <dunizen> Lol I did the same thing for a while.
[01:23] <dunizen> Finally figured it out.
[01:23] <ineedhelp_> either way something is not working.....
[01:23] <grendal-prime> everytime i run chrome now my laptop locks up
[01:23] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: What are you trying to get working?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> if you want to test it in google-chrome - see that url above
[01:24] <grendal-prime> randomly of course
[01:24] <smaudet> dunizen: an all adobe-flash website
[01:24] <smaudet> http://www.chatforfree.org/
[01:24] <ineedhelp_> www.chatforfree.org
[01:24] <dunizen> grendal-prime: I can help you with that. Mine used to do the same thing.
[01:24] <grendal-prime> really
[01:24] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, I've changed the boot options to boot from my live disk first... and no dice.. turned off secure boot -- no dice...
[01:24] <dunizen> smaudet: Whats the link I'm going to see if it works for me.
[01:24] <grendal-prime> i5 proc from system76
[01:25] <smaudet> dunizen: well you can scroll up to see the broken version he posted, but here:
[01:25] <grendal-prime> dunizen, what was the cause  if you dont mind me asking
[01:26] <dunizen> grendal-prime: It has something to do with the version of chrome and flash and all that. I removed chrome and installed chromium and it worked fine after that.
[01:26] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, I don't even get the grub menu :-/
[01:26] <grendal-prime> ya tried that still does it
[01:26] <smaudet> dunizen: http://imageshack.com/scaled/large/689/2kz0.png
[01:26] <dunizen> grendal-prime: Did you just remove it or did you purge everything before installing chromium?
[01:26] <sudormrf> I just keep getting The selected boot device failed. Press <Enter> to continue. :-/
[01:26] <ineedhelp_> chrome is almost done installing...
[01:27] <smaudet> just as seedy of a website as you'd expect for an all adobe flash site, you get what you go for, I guess :P
[01:27] <grendal-prime> im fine with not using chrom...honeslty its supposed to be this all smooth minimalistic approach i still fine firefox to be quicker with less junc
[01:27] <grendal-prime> not sure if i purged the chrome ill try it.
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> thank you!
[01:28] <dunizen> smaudet: The site seems to work fine for me.
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> it works!
[01:28] <dunizen> I'm in a chat room right now.
[01:28] <Hodapp> grendal-prime: I like Firefox, but Chrome/Chromium seem to be much faster and more stable.
[01:28] <smaudet> dunizen: yup
[01:28] <ineedhelp_> dunizen i works now
[01:28] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ you're welcome
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, You would see grub without an install.
[01:29] <Hodapp> which annoys me because I like the add-ons better in FF.
[01:29] <ineedhelp_> thanks guys:) took awhile but we got it:)
[01:29] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Good glad we could help :)
[01:29] <smaudet> dunizen: 11.2 works sporadically, wasn't working for him
[01:29] <Hodapp> but FF still will randomly crash on me or hog the CPU.
[01:29] <grendal-prime> ive never experinced that bliss. chrome has a lot more going on and takes alot longer to load.
[01:29] <smaudet> dunizen: had the same sort of issue with youtube a while back
[01:29] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, err... sorry, not what I meant... I meant the splash with "install ubuntu" and "try ubuntu without installing" etc.
[01:29] <smaudet> cannot wait until their purge the filthy abom. from their site entirely.
[01:29] <dunizen> Ah/
[01:29] <Hodapp> grendal-prime: huh, weird. for me it's always been faster, particularly on my ARM laptop
[01:29] <smaudet> they*
[01:29] <smaudet> excuse the vitriol
[01:30] <grendal-prime> there are codecs specifically for chrome.
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> anyone know of a webcam program that i can show my screen with by any chance?
[01:30] <dunizen> Alrighty guys I could use a hand :)
[01:30] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Use Skype.
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> sudormrf, I was not trying to help you other than to link you to the standard uefi help links, I know nothing about uefi.
[01:30] <smaudet> grendal-prime: right but google hasn't gotten them to work in their own browser yet ;)
[01:30] <Hodapp> smaudet: like what?
[01:30] <smaudet> And hence you get an 'unsupported' error
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> duniznen i mean for like in a chat room lol
[01:30] <sudormrf> wilee-nilee, okay, understood. Thanks.
[01:30] <grendal-prime> i mean when that sort of thing starts happening...well pretty easy to figre that things are going to need more load time
[01:30] <ineedhelp_> like manycam
[01:31] <smaudet> Hodapp: just talking about my prior experiences with chrome
[01:31] <smaudet> Hodapp: why I haven't disabled flash yet
[01:31] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Ah lol. Yea I'm lost on that one,.
[01:31] <Hodapp> smaudet: ah, just curious which plugins you meant
[01:31] <grendal-prime> anyway i striped out all the chrome and chromium stuff..now you say just install chromium?
[01:31] <checoimg> ineedhelp_ : Alternative , Teamviewer
[01:31] <dunizen> grendal-prime: Yea thats what I did.
[01:31] <ineedhelp_> that will not work in a chat room either lol
[01:31] <dunizen> Good spot checoimg
[01:31] <dunizen> I love that proram
[01:31] <checoimg> ineedhelp_ : yes it does have a chat
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> checoimg i am talking for i want to use it inside of a chatroom
[01:32] <checoimg> let me install it here and check
[01:32] <dunizen> I think hes talking about a standalone video program to run alongside a chatroom?
[01:32] <checoimg> I remember it has a chat
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> yes
[01:32] <smaudet> Also Jitsi
[01:32] <ineedhelp_> dunizen
[01:32] <checoimg> OH I see
[01:32] <smaudet> https://jitsi.org/
[01:32] <Anti> Okai i got it working again :)
[01:32] <dunizen> ineedhelp_: Whatcha need?
[01:32] <grendal-prime> ya teamviewer is pretty kick ass really
[01:32] <dunizen> Yes it is.
[01:32] <dunizen> I use it on all my computers
[01:33] <smaudet> Jitsi or TeamViewer. Sure
[01:33] <ineedhelp_> smaudet found it
[01:33] <ineedhelp_> teamviewer is a remote desktop tool
[01:33] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ yeah and a fairly good free one
[01:33] <dunizen> smaudet: How would I add a sever to xchat? I'm trying to get into a help room for old halflife mods but can't get the server to work.
[01:33] <smaudet> ineedhelp_ eventually google chrome will do that anyways, no plugins necessary
[01:34] <smaudet> dunizen: XChat -> Network List -> Add
[01:34] <dunizen> smaudet: Yea but when I add the sever and try to connect it says error looking up IRC
[01:34] <Pastafarian>    you got ineedhelp_'s website working yet?
[01:34] <wilee-nilee> dunizen, The first screen on xchat has a list of servers is the one you want there?
[01:34] <dunizen> I think so.
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> yes we did
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> not just looking for a program to show my desktop on cam
[01:35] <ineedhelp_> now
[01:35] <smaudet> you may need to edit the details
[01:35] <dunizen> wilee-nilee: No I have to add it but when I add the server info from the website it won't connect.
[01:35] <smaudet> so click the network, hit edit
[01:35] <smaudet> edit those details ;)
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> dunizen, YOU might ask in #xchat
[01:36] <dunizen> Yea I've added the IRC link and the ports but nothing seems to work.
[01:36] <checoimg> anyways forget about TEamviewer, dependency not satisfiable
[01:36] <smaudet> dunizen: ask in #xchat then
[01:37] <dunizen> smaudet: Thanks will do.
[01:37] <smaudet> dunizen: and if that still doesn't work its not the only irc client, I used to use pidgin for irc quite a lot
[01:37] <smaudet> even wrote a manual on pidgin as a wiki
[01:38] <dunizen> smaudet: Eh I tried a few this is the only one I like so far.
[01:38] <Pastafarian> hmm desktop on camera
[01:38] <Pastafarian> xsplit?
[01:38] <dunizen> smaudet: I look it up though
[01:38] <Pastafarian> open broadcasting software?
[01:39] <Pastafarian> why wasn't his website showing up?
[01:39] <Pastafarian> gfx drivers?
[01:39] <smaudet> Pastafarian: old version of flash
[01:39] <smaudet> Pepper flash worked for him
[01:39] <Pastafarian> dayum
[01:39] <smaudet> Some graphics drivers/hardware just don't work well and the old stuff (11.2) won't work right
[01:39] <Pastafarian> stuck in chrome then
[01:40] <Pastafarian> you tried the open flash plugin?
[01:40] <smaudet> lol no I wasn't going to get him to try that
[01:40] <smaudet> That would have really been a trip up complex lane for a beginner.
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> please use nicks folks
[01:41] <smaudet> wilee-nilee: ?
[01:42] <badabing> hello my apt-get is locked
[01:42] <badabing> can someone help me
[01:44] <dunizen> badabing: What does it say in the console when you try to use it?
[01:44] <smaudet> !ask } badabing
[01:44] <OerHeks> badabing, trying to apt-get with softwarecenter open?
[01:44] <smaudet> !ask | badabing
[01:44] <badabing> OerHeks: i guess it was apply changes
[01:44] <badabing> or trying to
[01:44] <badabing> but i didnt open it
[01:44] <badabing> i just started the system
[01:45] <dunizen> badabing: Were you doing an update or anything of the sort? Are any programs updating in software center?
[01:45] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:45] <badabing> now its just stalled at cancelling
[01:45] <dunizen> What have you done since you started your computer>
[01:46] <badabing> lol
[01:46] <badabing> just tried to update
[01:46] <badabing> suE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:46] <badabing> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:46] <Pastafarian> apt-get will be locked if it's auto updating, software center is doing something etc...
[01:46] <Pastafarian> wait for it to finish what it is doing
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> badabing, You have what open right now?
[01:47] <smaudet> badabing: check what windows you have open, any icons that say 'updating'
[01:47] <badabing> just my term
[01:47] <smaudet> badabing: any tabs?
[01:47] <badabing> no idea why its locked
[01:47] <badabing> nope
[01:47] <Pastafarian> badabing, read what I just said
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> badabing, meaning the terminal with a update command?
[01:47] <Pastafarian> something is probably updating
[01:47] <fudus> open gnome system monitor and look for dpkg
[01:47] <Pastafarian> ^
[01:47] <badabing> aptd is running
[01:47] <badabing> i tried to kill it
[01:47] <badabing> but it wouldnt die
[01:48] <Pastafarian> yeah, sorry dave, I can't let you do that
[01:48] <Pastafarian> wait for it to finish
[01:48] <Pastafarian> or reboot if it won't stop
[01:48] <badabing> i did reboot
[01:49] <wilee-nilee> badabing, try these two commands.  sudo dpkg --configure -a  then  sudo apt-get -f install
[01:50] <smaudet> badabing: or try running ps ax | grep dpkg
[01:50] <badabing> nice
[01:50] <badabing> will try
[01:50] <Pastafarian> it sounds like your system is still doing something
[01:50] <smaudet> and seeing what dpkg's come up
[01:50] <badabing> nope
[01:50] <badabing> its really really locked
[01:51] <smaudet> lol ok
[01:51] <badabing> i looked in system monitor
[01:51] <badabing> cant find anything apt, software center, dpkg
[01:51] <fudus> are you in all users mode?
[01:51] <fudus> all processes*
[01:51] <badabing> dunno
[01:51] <usr13> badabing: ps aux | grep apt
[01:51] <fudus> it defaults to your current user, and dpkg would be in root
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> badabing, Hard to say, but if you have the software center open you can't run a update from the terminal or if synaptic is open in the other two I just mentined.
[01:52] <badabing> root      2036  0.0  1.2  35132  6256 ?        SNl  18:24   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/sbin/aptd
[01:52] <badabing> zilla     9077  0.0  0.1   4388   808 pts/2    S+   18:52   0:00 grep --color=auto apt
[01:52] <badabing> ?
[01:52] <smaudet> Here's a better question (and one I don't know), what command lists the process that has a lock?
[01:52] <smaudet> I tried lsof but that doesn't actually 'access' the file I don't think
[01:53] <smaudet> different sort of lock
[01:53] <usr13> badabing: kill 2036
[01:53] <badabing> nope
[01:53] <badabing> still locked
[01:53] <badabing> lol
[01:54] <smaudet> badabing: sudo kill -kill 2036
[01:54] <usr13> badabing: sudo kill -9 2036
[01:54] <Anti> Guys thx for all your help I've managed to fix the problem and the system working great
[01:54] <Adie> My little sister loves to eat my cunt
[01:54] <badabing> YEAH!!!!
[01:54] <badabing> i tried the -9 first
[01:54] <badabing> worked
[01:54] <smaudet> badabing: does the same thing
[01:55] <smaudet> -9 is short for '-kill'
[01:55] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:55] <badabing> well now its trying to ocmplete its update
[01:55] <badabing> upgrade*
[01:55] <usr13> badabing: sudo apt-get update
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: You probably shouldn't have killed the process, probably should have let it finish.
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: But you can probably fix it.
[01:56] <badabing> usr13: its trying to install kernel images
[01:56] <smaudet> usr13, badabing, sure with enough invocations of apt-get ;)
[01:56] <badabing> but its taking forevvvver
[01:56] <smaudet> badabing: because it does take forever
[01:56] <usr13> badabing: Let it finish
[01:57] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[01:57] <badabing> stuck here...
[01:57] <smaudet> badabing: you should probably install the kernel images again, after this
[01:57] <badabing> but i see hard drive activity
[01:57] <badabing> not sure what to do -.-
[01:57] <kebomix> hello i have a problem what i have been searching for a solution the last few hours, i'm connected on 3g network, when i connect to vpn through vpn, i have no internet looks like ubuntu doesn't tunnel the traffic through the vpn here is my routing table  http://pastebin.com/C6rb4TL4
[01:57] <smaudet> badabing: if the process isn't doing much but its using the hard drive, you can always verify with sudo iotop
[01:58] <usr13> patience is a virtue
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: just wait, if you kill it there's a good chance you'll mess up  your system royally
[01:58] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[01:58] <badabing> what does this mean?
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: already I'd suggest installing the kernel updates again just to be  safe
[01:58] <rafaelsoaresbr>  /msg NickServ identify jl.MP4
[01:58] <badabing> hrmmm
[01:58] <smaudet> badabing: it takes a long time because there's a lot to do when installing a new kernel
[01:59] <smaudet> just be patient
[01:59] <badabing> it just keeps saying error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[01:59] <badabing> i should wait?
[01:59] <jvava7> hi
[01:59] <smaudet> badabing: it was probably downloading something and the process we killed earlier can not read from the file you didn't finish downloading
[01:59] <smaudet> my best guess
[01:59] <badabing> lol
[01:59] <badabing> makes sense
[02:00] <usr13> badabing: What can't read from sda?
[02:00] <badabing> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic
[02:00] <jvava7> who use emacs?
[02:00] <badabing> no one
[02:00] <badabing> jk
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, state the actual issue
[02:01] <kebomix> is there a channel for openvpn ?
[02:01] <jvava7> ok, wilee,
[02:01] <somsip> !alis | kebomix
[02:02] <usr13> jvava7: Here is the way it works;  You ask a [Ubuntu related] question, if anyone knows something about your issue, they will give you advise.
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, You can tab complete nicks, then the other user is actually notified you are addressing them
[02:02] <badabing> great
[02:02] <badabing> i cant even exit the process
[02:02] <usr13> badabing: What process?
[02:03] <badabing> im just trying to get flash support
[02:03] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, huh never knew that
[02:03] <smaudet> neat
[02:03] <badabing> can anyone suggest a package ?
[02:03] <smaudet> I always typed them all out >_>
[02:03] <usr13> badabing: you have to let the package management system run it's course.
[02:03] <badabing> im freaking out man
[02:03] <jvava7> command semantic-analyze-proto-impl-toggle does not work, hint is 'could not find suitable implementation'
[02:03] <jvava7> ok, wille-nilee
[02:03] <blarget2_> Hello, I am new to ubuntu 9and all linux). I came from windows 7. I am duel booting right now. Anyting i should know for starters?
[02:03] <badabing> this is taking way to long
[02:03] <badabing> too
[02:03] <jvava7> another problem, my xchat dispaly half of message, i means i can watch half screen of xchat, even i maximize it
[02:03] <usr13> badabing: Are you just wanting to get flash player for firefox?
[02:03] <badabing> yes
[02:03] <blarget2_> Like.... how do i view user names in a channel in irc.
[02:03] <badabing> it says on the flash website i have 11.8
[02:04] <usr13> badabing: ok here is what you do:
[02:04] <smaudet> badabing: then you have the latest available version
[02:04] <badabing> but when i try flash it directs me to the flash update link on adobe
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> jvava7: whats happening to th other half?
[02:04] <usr13> badabing: Are you 32bit or 64?
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  with what irc client? most have a nick list at the side
[02:04] <badabing> 32
[02:04] <badabing> it worked yesterday
[02:04] <blarget2_> yeah
[02:04] <badabing> now it doesnt work today
[02:05] <blarget2_> this has a nick list in a seperate window
[02:05] <blarget2_> its xchat gnome i believe
[02:05] <jvava7> Dr Willis, the other half lost
[02:05] <usr13> badabing: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/completion/?installer=Flash_Player_11.2_for_other_Linux_%28.tar.gz%29_32-bit
[02:05] <blarget2_> the seperate window is a bit anoying
[02:05] <badabing> looks good usr13
[02:05] <badabing> thanks
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  most people perfer xchat to xchat-gnome. everyone seems to hate xchat-gnome
[02:05] <usr13> badabing: Untar the file
[02:05] <smaudet> blarget2_: just use normal xchat
[02:05] <jvava7> strictly, less than half, only some words of my message lost
[02:05] <smaudet> none of that gnome stuff
[02:05] <blarget2_> doesnt xchat cost money?
[02:05] <fudus> only the windows version
[02:05] <smaudet> ...well I certainly didn't pay for it
[02:05] <blarget2_> ahh
[02:05] <blarget2_> ok so
[02:05] <blarget2_> how do i uninstall this crap
[02:05]  * smaudet double checks license
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  not  on linux. ;)
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  and thats only a special case on windows.
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> theres xchat alternatives on windows that are free
[02:06] <usr13> badabing: cd Downloads/  ;  tar xvf install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz
[02:06] <blarget2_> yes
[02:06] <fudus> i take the easier option and install chrome
[02:06] <blarget2_> i use one
[02:06] <fudus> with flash :P
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> even the normal xchat is free i belive on windows. he just askjs for a donation i think
[02:06] <blarget2_> called xchat wdk
[02:06] <blarget2_> its good
[02:06] <blarget2_> so... how do i uninstall
[02:07] <futurepardon> greetings all. i did an install of xubuntu 13.04, and ran updates. today,  the update manager (gui) shows the 'Updates Available' icon, and when i click it it says (grayed out) 9 updates are available. However when i click 'show updates', that box opens and says 'Your System is Up to Date'. I am wondering if this is something im dumbly missing, as this is first time in awhile i've run ubuntu, I've been running a semi-rolling debian spin for awhile
[02:07] <futurepardon> . thank you in advance to anyone that may know about this.
[02:07] <blarget2_> still learning the gui of ubuntu
[02:07] <fudus> the official build is shareware, there are unofficial builds in win for 0cost
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  uninstall what?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> !manual | blarget2_
[02:07] <kostkon> blarget2_, use the software centre. isnt that the app you installed it from?
[02:07] <blarget2_> hmm
[02:07] <blarget2_> ok
[02:07] <fudus> futurepardon, i went to terminal and did a apt-get upgrade to get rid of those messages
[02:07] <blarget2_> ubottu,
[02:07] <blarget2_> thanks
[02:07] <FloodBot1> blarget2_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> blarget2_:  thers no real need to worry about uninstalling xchat-gnome to install xchat.
[02:07] <smaudet> Yeah its GPLv2
[02:07] <rafaelsoaresbr> hello, i'am trying to replace xserver-xorg-core-lts-raring by xserver-xorg-core, but it results in BSOD
[02:07] <smaudet> Open Source and free
[02:08] <futurepardon> fudus: i'll try that real quick, and report back. ty for info
[02:08] <smaudet> Xchat that is
[02:08] <usr13> badabing: sudo mv libflas [use tab to complete] /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[02:08] <jvava7> i alter setting and try this long sentance, ignore this line,.........................................last lost?
[02:08] <jvava7> ok, works
[02:08] <DrLimon> hola
[02:08] <badabing> usr13: great
[02:09] <usr13> badabing: The filename is probably libflashplayer.so  Right?
[02:09] <fudus> i think it has to do with the new phased updates thing: it sees a list of upgradeable items, but the comp isn't in the phase so it popups the "system up to date" message
[02:10] <usr13> badabing: sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/   #Right?  If so, just restart firefox and you're done.
[02:10] <badabing> usr13: flash website detects 11.2
[02:10] <badabing> but it is still coming up
[02:10] <usr13> badabing: Did you restart firefox?
[02:11] <badabing> all ads are being blocked on the website? is it possible scripts are being blocked?
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing: don't freak out, follow usr13's instructions, run a sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade when you're done, and you should be good
[02:11] <badabing> :(
[02:11] <usr13> badabing: Popup blocker?
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing ads? are you running noscript or adblock?
[02:11] <badabing> theres nothing on my firefox
[02:11] <badabing> blank install
[02:11] <smaudet> badabing: sounds like a phoney site then
[02:12] <smaudet> badabing: maybe their web dev broke something
[02:12] <usr13> *phony*
[02:12] <badabing> i guess so :(
[02:13] <fudus> what is the url you're trying to load
[02:13] <futurepardon> fudus, it did indeed grab the 9 upgrades and my system update icon has gone back to sleep. thank you very much. i did apt update earlier, but did not to the apt upgrade afterwards. i should have thought of that ^ ^
[02:13] <usr13> badabing: See there?  You get all in a wad over nothing.
[02:13] <Impossible> guys how do i install gtk-devel and glib-devel
[02:13] <smaudet> I think there needs to be a #howToUseTheInternet irc chat...
[02:13] <badabing> it works over proxy
[02:13] <badabing> so i thought it was on my end :(
[02:14] <smaudet> badabing: proxy could be blocking whatever is making those 'errors'
[02:14] <badabing> true
[02:14] <badabing> well you are probably right on all accounts smaudet
[02:14] <badabing> thanks for your effort usr13
[02:15] <futurepardon> i have LMDE64 on another set of partitions, the last set of updates busted my print drivers, and i was unable to make it better, some file in debian testing on 64 is corrupt, even with rolling it back and other changes, never could get it to print.. the xubuntu on a quad-core is instantaneous in responsiveness ^ ^ been years since i used xfce, i might could get used to this
[02:16] <badabing> it says base64 + strip meta checkboxes
[02:16] <badabing> is it possible to do that in a browser?
[02:16] <badabing> to mimick the behavior of the proxy
[02:16] <smaudet> badabing: ask in #firefox, I've never heard of anything like that
[02:16] <smaudet> sounds like nonsense
[02:17] <badabing> right
[02:17] <smaudet> or #chrome if that's what you're using
[02:17] <badabing> best idea tbh
[02:17] <Pastafarian> what's he trying to do?
[02:17] <Pastafarian> pretend to be a proxy?
[02:17] <futurepardon> fudus, thank u again. signing out. take care everyone, have a great night/day.
[02:18] <smaudet> Pastafarian: whatever it is its not #ubuntu
[02:18] <smaudet> usr13 helped him with his flash problem
[02:19] <fudus> apparently intel xorg team doesn't want to support xmir. another company against canonical :P
[02:19] <badabing> hrmm
[02:19] <badabing> is there a flash channel?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> !alis
[02:19] <fudus> try a youtube video to see if flash works first
[02:19] <reisio> badabing: for what? :)
[02:19] <Fezzler> What verision of Ubuntu will run on a AMD K6 266?
[02:20] <badabing> webdev broke the site im trying to browse
[02:20] <reisio> badabing: which site?
[02:20] <reisio> Fezzler: i386
[02:20] <fudus> Fezzler, none because i doubt it has the 768 of ram ;)
[02:21] <reisio> i386 lubuntu if you can manage it, in that case
[02:21] <Fezzler> Pentium class
[02:21] <Fezzler> Yes, has 2 meg ram
[02:22] <reisio> heh
[02:22] <reisio> I wouldn't even bother with Ubuntu then
[02:22] <reisio> try Debian stable without a DE
[02:22] <reisio> probably without even X
[02:24] <Fezzler> Lightweight Desktop Environment maybe?
[02:25] <Wiseau> is it possible to configure xorg to use the edid broadcast from one monitor in a multi-monitor setup but specify information for the other monitor?
[02:26] <Wiseau> i'm trying to set up a multi-monitor configuration and one of my monitors is a korean 27" so the edid is no good
[02:26] <Wiseau> but when i disable edid in xorg.conf the other monitor won't go above 800x600
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> 2mb of ram? egads
[02:32] <fudus> Wiseau, you'll need to look up manuall xorg config for that, good luck on the project :P
[02:38] <Tekno> Hi I mounted an lvm volume to the live disk and theres nothing on it yet someone told me there was data on it all I  see is one volume
[02:38] <Tekno> And a folder called lost+found
[02:39] <Tekno> Any one have a suggestion as to could the data be locked some how so I cant see it
[02:40] <usr13> Tekno: Surely there are others. Right?
[02:40] <usr13> Tekno: "an lvm volume to the live disk"?
[02:41] <Tekno> I have the ubuntu live disk loaded off cd
[02:41] <usr13> Tekno: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit  #Send us the URL and we'll have a look.
[02:41] <Tekno> And then mounted the lvm
[02:42] <usr13> Tekno: What is your end goal?
[02:42] <sam113101> does ubuntu use plymouth?
[02:42] <Tekno> To dump the data off the lvm so I can format the drives to zfs
[02:43] <usr13> Tekno: What data?  From what partition?
[02:43] <usr13> Tekno: mount  #What does that say?
[02:43] <beejun> mint is awesome
[02:44] <usr13> Tekno: "dump the data" ?
[02:44] <RTygart> I have an older laptop, Kubuntu was a little much for it but it worked. Now I am giving it away and I want it to run as smooth as possible, I am thinking Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Suggestions?
[02:44] <usr13> beejun: We're glad you like it.
[02:44] <usr13> beejun: ... but this is  #ubuntu
[02:44] <beejun> :)
[02:45] <PantheraRazorK> :)
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> RTygart, That is a personal opinion try both and decide.
[02:45] <antz> ^
[02:45] <RTygart> wilee-nilee: I am more talking about what is lighter.
[02:45] <antz> in terms of...
[02:46] <RTygart> I want a light weight, less bells and whistles the better.
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> RTygart, lubuntu is the lighter of the two but needs more configuring without a gui
[02:46] <usr13> RTygart: lubuntu is lightest, followed by xubuntu
[02:47] <Tekno> Http://pastebin.com/CLMzVyTy
[02:47] <antz> lubuntu seems to be much lighter
[02:47] <rtorres> alguien me puede enseñar a instalar php4 en ubuntu 12.04
[02:47] <RTygart> I will try for xubuntu. Thanks
[02:47] <Tekno> Hmm says lvm doesnt contain a valid partion
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> !es | rtorres
[02:48] <wagle> is there a meta (?) package for installing the entirety of the 32-bit support on a 64-bit 12.04 system?  I'm not finding one
[02:48] <usr13> Tekno: So, which partition do you want do "dump data" from?  sda1?  And dump it to _______________?
[02:48] <usr13> Tekno: mount | pastebinit  #Let's see what you have mounted so far.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> wagle, what is the end goal here that has you asking this?
[02:49] <wagle> wilee-nilee: run 32 bit binaries
[02:49] <fudus> ia32-libs
[02:49] <Tekno> The lvm that its saying doesnt contain a valid partition table to the othe r 1tib drive
[02:49] <iUnify> Hey guys, does anyone know Alacarte Main Menu?  I've installed - it is supposed to be a GNOME menu editor - but nothing changes when I make edits.  GNOME menu would be the bar at the top of the screen?  Can anyone help me with this?  I'm thinking its a simple fix.
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> wagle, It does already I believe
[02:50] <smaudet> I've fixed this before, however the fix regressed - does anyone know how to get multi-touch working with synaptics touchpads?
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> multiarch
[02:50] <smaudet> I used to be able to do two/three finger right click
[02:50] <badabing> hello again
[02:50] <fudus> iUnify, you need to delete the item to get it disappear from the launcher, just dechecking doesn't work
[02:50] <badabing> trying to run apt and get this
[02:50] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'
[02:50] <badabing> even though the harddrive is dev/sdb
[02:50] <badabing> what is going on here?
[02:51] <wagle> wilee-nilee: nope, i tried
[02:51] <iUnify> I see no changes anywhere.  I've ADDED an item though.
[02:51] <wagle> ia32-libs seems to be it, I'll see
[02:51] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> wagle, was it a ubuntu binary?
[02:51] <smaudet> give me the url
[02:51] <iUnify> GNOME menu is the top menu?
[02:51] <wagle> wilee-nilee: no
[02:51] <badabing> i cant install anything right now
[02:51] <smaudet> badabing: ok
[02:51] <smaudet> you have a web-browser though yes?
[02:52] <badabing> yes
[02:52] <smaudet> df -h <-> copy paste the output into pastebin, paste the url
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> wagle, That may be the problem, not the 32 bit capability, just saying.
[02:53] <usr13> Tekno: sda1?  sdc1?  __________?
[02:53] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/5YYxg8w1
[02:53] <usr13> Tekno: What is it you want to do exactly?
[02:53] <badabing> /dev/sdb was a data drive i used to use
[02:53] <badabing> usb
[02:53] <Tekno> Http://pastebin.com/gv6TdsgJ
[02:53] <badabing> when i try to connect it ubuntu says an operation is still in progress
[02:53] <badabing> dunno
[02:54] <wagle> wilee-nilee: out of the box, 12.04/amd64 doesnt support ia32 binaries, traditionally you've had to install the 32 bit support, which I seem to be doing right now
[02:54] <smaudet> badabing: try df -a -h
[02:54] <smaudet> you have an /dev/sda, don't know why its not showing
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> wagle, I thought it did, but I never have to mess around in that way.
[02:55] <usr13> Tekno: I see that you have /dev/sdb1 mounted on /media/ubuntu/New Volume
[02:55] <fudus> ia32-libs
[02:55] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/pYYueegr
[02:55] <Tekno> Yes
[02:55] <smaudet> usr13: its his /dev/sda drive which is complaining again
[02:55] <fudus> is the package name for 32bit
[02:55] <badabing> not sure why apt-get is trying to read from /dev/sdb
[02:55] <smaudet> usr13: the one that started complaining during the kernel install
[02:55] <badabing> sda*
[02:56] <usr13> smaudet: What is he needing to do?
[02:56] <badabing> magic
[02:56] <Tekno> Usr13 yes want to dump the lvm data thwre
[02:56] <smaudet> usr13: get rid fo the error and be able to install again
[02:56] <badabing> yes
[02:56] <iUnify> Does anyone know Alacarte Main Menu?  My new addations do not appear.  ALSO though, I notice I don't see any of the ones they list as default either... meaning, Applications... I do not see "Applications" on the GNOME menu when at my desktop....   Right?
[02:57] <smaudet> ...
[02:57] <badabing> yes
[02:57] <badabing> the partition is old
[02:57] <smaudet> you unplugged the external drive that your operating system was running from?
[02:57] <smaudet> XD
[02:57] <badabing> from data drive
[02:57] <badabing> no
[02:57] <badabing> its plugged in
[02:58] <badabing> just not sure why apt-get is trying to read dfrom sda
[02:58] <usr13> Tekno: Do you want to just delete sda1?
[02:58] <wagle> it executes now..  i seem to be missing libraries
[02:58] <smaudet> Ok. Let me get this straight. You have /dev/sda which is an external drive, which is no longer plugged in
[02:58] <iUnify> fudus:  any idea why I don't see any of the default menus they say are there?  Top bar, GOME menu?  When at desktop?
[02:58] <usr13> Tekno: I really don't know what you are doing, (or wanting to do).
[02:58] <badabing> ye
[02:58] <badabing> yes
[02:58] <badabing> smaudet:
[02:58] <smaudet> And you have a /dev/sdb which is where your OS is
[02:58] <badabing> yes
[02:58] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <smaudet> badabing: just plug your external back in: usually /dev/sda is the drive used first, so I'd wager apt-get downloaded to that drive
[02:59] <fudus> winkey-a, filter results
[02:59] <fudus> you'll get the oldgnome list of applications in that filter list
[02:59] <usr13> Tekno: If you want to delete it, you'll need to un-mount it first.
[03:00] <fudus> under type
[03:00] <smaudet> let me know if that fixes the issue
[03:01] <iUnify> fudus: what am I supposed to do here then... delete everything?  I don't understand....
[03:01] <Tekno> Usr13 by dump I mean copy
[03:01] <iUnify> Also my new entries I dont see them..
[03:01] <Tekno> Not delete
[03:01] <fudus> what do you want to do? i thought you wanted to see a list of applications
[03:01] <smaudet> I don't know enough about the filesystem to say why your external is /dev/sda and not /dev/sdb, you'd have to ask someone else why its backwards.
[03:02] <Tekno> The issue though is I dont see any data there on the kvm
[03:02] <Tekno> Lvm
[03:02] <fudus> if you mean the menu editor, click the item and use "delete" button
[03:02] <usr13> Tekno: You mean sda1?
[03:02] <smaudet> Tekno, badabing: you aren't the same user, right? there are multiple people talking about drives, just want to make sure I'm not ignoring half the conversation
[03:03] <usr13> Tekno: If so, ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/
[03:03] <badabing> smaudet:
[03:03] <badabing> it says operation pending
[03:03] <badabing> cannot access
[03:03] <badabing> :(
[03:03] <badabing> i cant even read my data on it
[03:03] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:03] <smaudet> badabing: is apt-get still running?
[03:03] <badabing> yes
[03:03] <smaudet> badabing: Ctrl+C in the term window
[03:04] <badabing> Generating grub.cfg ...
[03:04] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:04] <Tekno> Usr13 the new volumn is the drive I want to copy the data to from the lvm
[03:04] <smaudet> yeah your apt-get operation sounds shot
[03:04] <smaudet> lets try again
[03:04] <badabing> Errors were encountered while processing: linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:04] <smaudet> Yes.
[03:04] <smaudet> We know
[03:04] <badabing> lol
[03:04] <badabing> k
[03:04] <Tekno> Smaudet nope two diff peeps
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno:  There are two lvm's there, one is sda1 the other is sdc1.
[03:05] <wagle> aww bummerz, it looks like I cant run my ancient linux game on 12.04..  8/
[03:05] <iUnify> Fudus: yes i want to edit... but not delete, add.... the issue is I do not see what I am adding NOR do I see what is listed as already there... I am looking from my desktop, the top menu that says ubuntu: file, edit, view, go, help.... it doesnt say applications or anything
[03:05] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get autoclean
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno: So again;  Is it sda1?
[03:05] <badabing> ok
[03:05] <badabing> smaudet: it did a lot
[03:05] <fudus> iUnify, can't help then, sorry
[03:05] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get clean
[03:05] <Tekno> Wouldnt those be the two drives that show up as one lvm
[03:05] <usr13> Tekno: Is it sdc1?
[03:06] <badabing> ok
[03:06] <smaudet> badabing: yup just cleaning up mistakes :)
[03:06] <iUnify> fudus: is where I am explaing where the changes are supposed to be made?
[03:06] <jvava7> hi
[03:06] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <badabing> oh my
[03:06] <badabing> it actually worked
[03:06] <usr13> Tekno: ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/   #What does that say?
[03:07] <jvava7> badcolor
[03:07] <badabing> im heading into safer waters
[03:07] <badabing> lol
[03:07] <usr13> Tekno: ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/ | pastebinit   #Send us the resulting URL
[03:07] <smaudet> sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:07] <Tekno> Usr15 theres 5 drives in this machine and I dont know which is which just that I dont wqnt to loose the data on the lvm volumes
[03:07] <smaudet> and don't freak out if there are errors
[03:07] <fudus> iUnify, you're not getting access/games/graphics on the tree to the left?
[03:08] <fudus> all i used menu editor is to delete some items, so i don't know how to edit them
[03:08] <usr13> Tekno: What does ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/  say?
[03:08] <badabing> oky doky
[03:08] <badabing> its running again smaudet
[03:08] <iUnify> fudus: my question is WHERE do I see the changes of what I have deleted.
[03:08] <Tekno> Usr13 that new volume I just put in there has a recyclebin foldr on it from its prior system
[03:08] <iUnify> It says it is to edit GNOME menu
[03:08] <iUnify> Where is GNOME menu?
[03:08] <badabing> back at update-initramfs:
[03:08] <smaudet> badabing: Ok, good, if its downloading etc it may take a while
[03:08] <KWhat4> Hi, What is the current stable version of glibc that ships with ubuntu?
[03:08] <usr13> Tekno: Sorry, I can't help you.
[03:08] <smaudet> badabing: yeah that just takes a bit
[03:09] <iUnify> I do not see "applications" in GNOME menu, I see it in the program Alacarte Main Menu
[03:09] <smaudet> badabing: unless you have a really fast SSD (which it doesn't sound like), you can expect it to take 10-20 minute easy
[03:09] <smaudet> I'd worry if it takes an hour or longer though
[03:09] <badabing> sooooo sloowwwwww
[03:09] <iUnify> fudus: also, ls /media/ubuntu/New\ Volume/
[03:09] <badabing> yeah
[03:10] <smaudet> !patience
[03:10] <fudus> its the dash, like you do winkey+gedit and get a text editor icon, if you deleted it in main menu it won't appear when you do winkey+gedit
[03:10] <badabing> i think its working
[03:10] <badabing> though
[03:10] <smaudet> :)
[03:10] <smaudet> good
[03:10] <badabing> thank you master buddah
[03:10] <iUnify> fudus: sorry - ls: cannot access /media/ubuntu/New Volume/: No such file or directory
[03:10] <badabing> NO!!!!
[03:10] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:10] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:10] <badabing> :(
[03:10] <smaudet> hmm
[03:10] <fudus> before when i searched winkey+xdiag i got the xdiagnose feature, i used main menu and now it doesn't appear when i do it for example
[03:10] <smaudet> your external is still plugged in right?
[03:11] <smaudet> run the df -h again for me, pastebin
[03:11] <badabing> just the one ubuntu is on
[03:11] <badabing> yes
[03:11] <iUnify> fudus: winkey +gedit?  whats the gedit key? i'm lost. i know gedit app, but what?
[03:11] <fudus> har banned
[03:11] <fudus> i mean press winkey, type gedit, you'll get a gedit icon in dash. if you delete it in alacarte it won't appear there anymore
[03:11] <badabing> /dev/sdb1       456G  135G  299G  32% /
[03:11] <badabing> udev            233M   12K  233M   1% /dev
[03:11] <badabing> tmpfs            96M  820K   96M   1% /run
[03:11] <badabing> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[03:11] <badabing> none            240M  384K  240M   1% /run/shm
[03:11] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:12] <badabing> -.-;;
[03:12] <smaudet> badabing: also run 'dpkg -l linux-image*'
[03:12] <smaudet> pastebin, please
[03:12] <KWhat4> Can someone pastebin me the output of  sh -c /lib/libc.so.6 ?
[03:12] <smaudet> not in the channel
[03:12] <iUnify> fudus: gotcha, i dont get how it adds things then
[03:13] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3EzE9agE
[03:13] <smaudet> KWhat4: not found
[03:13] <fudus> sh: 1: /lib/libc.so.6: not found
[03:14] <smaudet> ok that could have something to do with it
[03:14] <KWhat4> O_o where is libc?  /lib/libc.so.6 ?
[03:14] <smaudet> badabing: you have too many kernels looks like
[03:14] <badabing> lol
[03:14] <jvava7> i have a emacs question
[03:14] <badabing> how do i remove them
[03:14] <smaudet> KWhat4: dpkg -S libc.so.6 ?
[03:14] <smaudet> badabing: what's the output of uname -r?
[03:14] <badabing> 3.2.0-52-generic
[03:15] <KWhat4> smaudet: if that will give me the version that will work ;)
[03:15] <smaudet> badabing: and you have no other problems other than this update?
[03:15] <smaudet> KWhat4: it might
[03:15] <ChrisBloke> afternoon all
[03:15] <smaudet> It should find the package that has that so file in it
[03:16] <badabing> hi
[03:16] <KWhat4> aptitude show libc6 ?
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, there is a #emacs channel with over 600 people on it if needed.
[03:16] <ChrisBloke> quick query - where should I file bugs regarding Digikam from the Ubuntu PPA (Digikam 3.3.0 and KDE 4.11.1)
[03:16] <ChrisBloke> ?
[03:16] <KWhat4> can someone run that for me, im not on ubuntu and I need to try and match glibc versions to debug something
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Here like there you state the issue.
[03:16] <smaudet> badabing: and you have no other problems other than this update?
[03:17] <badabing> nope
[03:17] <smaudet> ok, well then you'll want to uninstall the prior kernels to the one you're running right now
[03:17] <smaudet> uname -r tells you which kernel you are running
[03:17] <smaudet> 3.2.0-52-generic
[03:17] <badabing> ok
[03:17] <smaudet> you want to sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> e.g.
[03:17] <jvava7> wilee-nilee, but there no one answer my problem, whole silent
[03:18] <smaudet> badabing: and you'll want to do that for all the kernel versions listed in that pastebin you sent me, which AREN'T your current kernel, and ARE installed (ii)
[03:18] <smaudet> badabing: get busy typing
[03:18] <smaudet> ;)
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Then either you are not giving enough details, or no one knows, stating you have a question dose neither
[03:18] <KWhat4> its 2.17
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> does*
[03:19] <smaudet> badabing: and you can hit TAB to help with the completion
[03:19] <smaudet> so you type less and make fewer mistakes
[03:20] <wiak> can someone point me to a crash logging for ubuntu 12.04?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Have you looked at the emacs wiki and documentations for ubuntu?
[03:20] <wiak> ffmpeg seems to crash ubuntu 12.04 :/
[03:20] <badabing> smaudet:
[03:20] <iUnify>  I am looking for a way to organize my applications in Ubuntu.  I have all of the Studio apps for example - and I am very happy with the way that Studio organizes them... namely in an approiately named folder with the link to each app... sub folders if neccessary... secondly with the fact that menu is right at the top of the screen where the Ubuntu menu is.... so, I would like VERY much to find a way to do something of this nature in U
[03:20] <badabing> im back in locked apt
[03:20] <iUnify> Ubuntu menu than I would like to at least be able to have an application launcher I can create folders in and sub folders with shortcuts to the apps.  Like Mac has.... whatever, just somthing.  Any help!?  :D
[03:20] <badabing> smaudet: how do i get out again?
[03:20] <smaudet> Ctrl+C
[03:21] <smaudet> The 'cancel' command ;)
[03:21] <badabing> it wouldnt respond
[03:21] <raptor> is there any backtack geek here?
[03:21] <antz> backtrack?
[03:21] <badabing> i had to close the terminal
[03:21] <iUnify>  I am looking for a way to organize my applications in Ubuntu.  I have all of the Studio apps for example - and I am very happy with the way that Studio organizes them... namely in an approiately named folder with the link to each app... sub folders if neccessary... secondly with the fact that menu is right at the top of the screen where the Ubuntu menu is.... so, I would like VERY much to find a way to do something of this nature in U
[03:21] <badabing> manually
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> raptor, backtrack is eol and not supported here.
[03:21] <iUnify> Sorry
[03:21] <smaudet> badabing: whatever works
[03:21] <badabing> smaudet: but now i cant remove the old kernels
[03:21] <raptor> wilee;ok
[03:22] <iUnify> still learning backtrack
[03:22] <antz> there is nothing to learn about backtrack
[03:22] <smaudet> badabing: if you could make your terminal wider (drag the window side to the right) and put up another pastebin of dpkg -l linux-image*
[03:22] <antz> you just run it
[03:22] <smaudet> I might be able to make your life easier
[03:23] <antz> just run whatever tools they have
[03:23] <iUnify> right-o... back to my dillemma.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> !ot | antz
[03:23] <raptor> where can i find backtrack FAQs
[03:23] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/WRiuVuLp
[03:23] <jvava7> wilee-nilee, i dont know where to found  them
[03:23] <badabing> pastebin formats
[03:23] <antz> wilee-nilee: what are you talking about
[03:23] <antz> i was addressing someone who was talking about backtrack
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=emac+ubuntu&btnG=&gbv=1&sei=zu0rUvNHqOaLAofTgLgM
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !emac | jvava7
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> thought the bot would have something
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !emacs
[03:25] <smaudet> badabing: sudo apt-get -f remove linux-image-3.2.0-2-generic linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic linux-image-3.2.0-49-generic linux-image-3.2.0-51-generic linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, This is a good site as well, in that google list. http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/emacs
[03:26] <badabing> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:26] <badabing> smaudet: ??? :(
[03:26] <smaudet> badabing: go ahead and run that
[03:26] <jvava7> ok, thank you very much, wilee-nilee
[03:26] <smaudet> 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:26] <badabing> it will just try to reinstall
[03:26] <smaudet> hmm
[03:26] <badabing> i will be back where i started
[03:26] <smaudet> did you try running my giant command yet?
[03:26] <smaudet> sudo apt-get -f remove linux-image-3.2.0-2-generic linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic linux-image-3.2.0-48-generic linux-image-3.2.0-49-generic linux-image-3.2.0-51-generic linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> jvava7, Just trying to get you info I know nothing about it myself, and it seems not much response for you so far.
[03:26] <badabing> yes
[03:27] <badabing> it doesnt run
[03:27] <badabing> because its asking for dpkg
[03:27] <smaudet> ok we'll uninstall the half installed package first then
[03:27] <badabing> which?
[03:27] <smaudet> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:28] <badabing> ok
[03:28] <badabing> its running
[03:29] <smaudet> did it work?
[03:29] <smaudet> ok
[03:30] <badabing> lol
[03:30] <badabing> error: cannot read from `/dev/sda'.
[03:30] <badabing> ...
[03:30] <smaudet> can you pastebin the entire output so far from that dpkg command?
[03:30] <badabing> sure
[03:32] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/P2cSiZNV
[03:32] <badabing> godspeed
[03:33] <smaudet> ls -la /etc/kernel/postrm.d/
[03:35] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3sKvi3p1
[03:35] <Kalel> Greetings.
[03:35] <Kalel> I just had reinstalled Ubuntu 13.04. When came back, the mouse didn1t works.
[03:36] <Kalel> didn't*
[03:36] <Kalel> What shoud I do now?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, usb standard mouse?
[03:36] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: No. Laptop's mouse - touchpad
[03:36] <smaudet> badabing: dpkg -l linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic - just tell me if it says (ii) or (un) next to the package
[03:36] <smaudet> Or neither
[03:37] <Kalel> stay frozed in the centre of the csreen.
[03:37] <badabing> pH
[03:37] <smaudet> We want it to say (un)
[03:37] <Kalel> screen
[03:37] <Kalel> I'm now in another system, installed in dual. "suse'.. Works perfecly.
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, Do you know the unlock on it if there is one, It seems to have worked in last 13.04 is this right?
[03:38] <Kalel> Right. Was unlocked, wilee-nileee.
[03:38] <smaudet> badabing: and sudo dpkg --configure -a still complains too?
[03:38] <badabing> im sure
[03:38] <badabing> we havent changed anything
[03:39] <smaudet> Not you're sure, try it - we don't know that we haven't changed anything - and you have actually
[03:39] <smaudet> that package was iF previously
[03:39] <smaudet> now its pH
[03:39] <badabing> ok smaudet
[03:39] <badabing> cheers
[03:39] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Sound does not work if I just load ubuntu. If i load Windows XP then restart then load ubuntu it loads but volume is reset to about 70. If I use alsamixer when sound doesnt work it only shows "Beep". Ubuntu and Lubuntu 13.04
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> Kalel, If it were me I would look on the web for info on that computer and the pad, and if it worked before consider maybe a bad install, and try again, since it takes a short time, and check the iso sum if doing so.
[03:40] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/q9nre7Cf
[03:40] <Kalel> heayeyaeyyeayaey: Did you tried select the ranother, if available, card in the sound configuration?
[03:40] <Kalel> *another
[03:40] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: ?
[03:41] <smaudet> ok, that's progress
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: oh
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: yes didnt work
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: i remember when i trie
[03:41] <badabing> i guess you were right
[03:41] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> d
[03:44] <Kalel> heayeyaeyyeayaey: If there is another card, you can select it. 'stereo', Dolby surround 4.1, etc.. If you're sure isn't a hardware problem, I suggest you have a look on ask ubuntu for more detailable answeres questions.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ive seen weird sound cards in the past that would  if i directly booted to linux.   If i booted to windows first then to linux. they dident work. guess the reverse could happen also. ;)
[03:44] <Kalel> wilee-nilee: Figuredout something?
[03:45] <smaudet> badabing: I'm still here, just trying to figure out which package needs uninstalling next ;)
[03:45] <badabing> smaudet: sure
[03:45] <badabing> apt-get update runs through again
[03:45] <smaudet> yeah that's fine
[03:45] <smaudet> update just contacts some servers and writes a text file
[03:45] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Im asking this alot with different usernames :s
[03:45] <smaudet> no biggie
[03:46] <smaudet> If you couldn't do that you'd not be on irc ;)
[03:47] <blarget_ubuntu> hello.
[03:47] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> Kalel: DO
[03:47] <guest_____> Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit is installed on my laptop.  How do I downgrade to 32-bit?
[03:47] <smaudet> badabing: go ahead and sudo dpkg -P linux-image && sudo dpkg -P linux-image-generic
[03:48] <smaudet> I don't seem to have them installed, and I'm running fine
[03:48] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> NO
[03:48] <blarget_ubuntu> I have installed 12.04 lts and i realised that it steam doesnt like 12.04 lts because its missing libc files because of bad drivers. The driver installer for 12.04 is not there anymore so now i have had to download the 13.04 iso to do an iso upgrade from within 12.04 just for steam.... fun
[03:48] <blarget_ubuntu> should have saw this coming
[03:49] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> optimusprimem: hello WORLD284
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> unless someone has a solution for running steam under 12.04 lts
[03:49] <heayeyaeyyeayaey> heayeyaeyyeayaey: NOPE
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> are you a bot?
[03:49] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[03:50] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu: seems to work for me, I'll let you know more
[03:50] <smaudet> still installing
[03:50] <smaudet> been meaning to anyways
[03:50] <blarget_ubuntu> well it gives me an error
[03:50] <guest_____> Can Ubuntu 12.04 64bit LTS be downgraded to 32bit?
[03:50] <badabing> fuck
[03:50] <smaudet> ?
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> guest_____ no
[03:50] <badabing> apt is locked again
[03:50] <optimusprimem> is crazy?
[03:51] <smaudet> badabing: until it throws an error
[03:51] <smaudet> don't worry
[03:51] <smaudet> and I'm not sure those /dev/sda errors mean anything
[03:51] <adom> is there a way to see the current amount of workspaces/desktops enabled via command-line?
[03:51] <smaudet> You may be able to fix it with a reboot, but don't do that until we fix your kernel stuff
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> SmallR2002, I will wait until you have an answer for me, if not, i will upgrade to 12.04
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> i mean
[03:51] <blarget_ubuntu> 13.04 sorry....
[03:51] <guest_____> wilee-nilee So I will have to do a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04 32bit LTS?
[03:52] <badabing> (Reading database ... 309778 files and directories currently installed.)
[03:52] <badabing> Removing linux-image-generic ...
[03:52] <badabing> boom smaudet
[03:52] <smaudet> ?
[03:52] <smaudet> 'boom' does not computer :P
[03:52] <badabing> lol
[03:52] <smaudet> compute*
[03:52] <badabing> i dunno
[03:52] <badabing> seems like it ran through
[03:52] <wilee-nilee> guest_____ basically yes, theoretically you can downgrade that but it would be a fools journey.
[03:53] <smaudet> if it didn't say anything and it just ran then it worked.
[03:53] <smaudet> ok try uninstalling the kernel image again so
[03:53] <badabing> ok
[03:53] <smaudet> sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:53] <mwallacesd> Hi there, Is it a correct command: useradd -d /home/newuser -G  newusergroup -m -k /etc/skel          SKEL as (skeleton_dir) OR Can I user useradd -dGmk followed dir???
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, What is the reason to do this?
[03:54] <guest_____> Okay, I will just download the 32 bit version and then install.  The one I have installed currently is fairly new and no important stuff has been stored.
[03:54] <iUnify> Hey Guys.... you know the Ubuntu Search...?  For example, when I click the "Applications" tab... it gives me results in 3 fields:  Recently Used, Installed and Available For Download... can I consolidate that to just Installed?
[03:54] <iUnify> I dont want to see ALL the other results and have seperate catigories.... just keep it simple.
[03:54] <badabing> uh oh smaudet
[03:54] <smaudet> ?
[03:54] <badabing> its going into its loop thing
[03:55] <smaudet> ?
[03:55] <vanishing> guest_____: whats wrong with your current install?
[03:55] <badabing> Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
[03:55] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs-tools 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> update-initramfs: Deleting /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/zz-update-grub 3.2.0-53-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-53-generic
[03:55] <badabing> next will be sda -.-
[03:55] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, is steam working for you?
[03:55] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: no need to flood the channel man...just use pastebin
[03:56] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: sorry wrong ping
[03:56] <blarget_ubuntu> lol
[03:56] <vanishing> badabing: ^
 The 64 bit version is running a bit slow in its default desktop environment.  I am very conservative in the number of programs open in the foreground and in the background.
[03:56] <badabing> yup
[03:56] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, agreement window came up
[03:56] <badabing> man
[03:56] <badabing> this system got hosed
[03:56] <blarget_ubuntu> mine did too
[03:56] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, steam is updating
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, what is it doing?
[03:57] <badabing> same thing
[03:57] <badabing> cannot read sda
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, we may try manually deleting the image
[03:57] <smaudet> badabing, cd to /boot
[03:57] <guest_____> Would the 32 bit version be a bit more stable and run wmoother?
[03:57] <smaudet> rm the /initrd.img-3.2.0-53-generic file
[03:57] <guest_____> * smoother
[03:58] <smaudet> be VERY CAREFUL you get the right one
[03:58] <smaudet> once you do, try the dpkg -P command again
[03:58] <smaudet> let me know if it quites cycling
[03:58] <smaudet> quits*
[03:58] <badabing> hrmm
[03:58] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, about 1/3 done with updates
[03:59] <badabing> its not there
[03:59] <badabing> highest 52
[03:59] <guest_____> i am leaving.  Take care folks!
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> guest_____, I found them about the same, bu my computer has the ram to run both and is a dual core.
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> but*
[04:00] <smaudet> badabing, that at least explains why its cycling, or offers a plausible cause
[04:00] <badabing> hrmm
[04:00] <badabing> i dont even know what that is
[04:00] <smaudet> the image file?
[04:00] <badabing> still trying to figure out why it wants to talk to sda
[04:00] <smaudet> that's your kernel
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> my computer was listed as a 32 bit but is actually 64 and runs a gig more ram than listed, it is a 5 year or more older laptop
[04:01] <IamTrying> http://releases.ubuntu.com/13.10/  - Is the website down? Where can i get the Ubuntu 13.10 / 64-bit ?
[04:01] <badabing> so what do we do smaudet
[04:02] <vanishing> wilee-nilee: lol..my old laptop has the same thing happening, until a cup of coffee joined its motherboard
[04:02] <iUnify> Hey Guys.... you know the Ubuntu Search...?  For example, when I click the "Applications" tab... it gives me results in 3 fields:  Recently Used, Installed and Available For Download... can I consolidate that to just Installed?  I dont want to see ALL the other results and have seperate catigories.... just keep it simple.
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, get the daily build, and #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:02] <smaudet> badabing: well to be honest I'm kinda hacking a solution here so if anyone else who knows dpkg a bit better can speak up it might be the time to do so
[04:02] <smaudet> badabing: but the next thing I was going to try would be to go in and manually delete the dpkg files
[04:02] <badabing> at least i can use apt again :)
[04:02] <mwallacesd> Hi there, Is it a correct command: useradd -d /home/newuser -G  newusergroup -m -k /etc/skel          SKEL as (skeleton_dir) OR Can I user useradd -dGmk followed dir???
[04:03] <smaudet> badabing, might be time to ask the folks in #dpkg
[04:03] <mwallacesd> all parameters together?
[04:03] <smaudet> but if you don't want to do that you can try going into /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:03] <smaudet> ls | grep linux-image
[04:03] <smaudet> and deleting the files there
[04:03] <badabing> nm
[04:03] <smaudet> but wait for me to say go ahead
[04:03] <badabing> its still asking for install -f
[04:04] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, it installed the updates, it seems tobe running
[04:04] <sepero> iUnify: I think you might need to look up how to adjust unity scopes or lenses
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> hmmm
[04:04] <iUnify> :D
[04:04] <badabing> Dlinux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.list
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.md5sums
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.postinst
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.postrm
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.preinst
[04:04] <FloodBot1> badabing: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <badabing> linux-image-3.2.0-53-generic.prerm
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, i dont know what to do then.
[04:04] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, now if only I can remember my login account
[04:04] <vanishing> use pastebin
[04:04] <blarget_ubuntu> heh
[04:05] <vanishing> well..told him
[04:05] <blarget_ubuntu> Ima go install 13.04 anyways.
[04:05] <sepero> iUnify: you might be able to just remove the ones for Amazon and Recent
[04:05] <iUnify> sepero: howso?
[04:05] <iUnify> sepero: I'd like to clean it up a bunch really
[04:05] <sepero> iUnify: look up how to adjust unity scopes or lenses. i don't know how. sorry
[04:06] <iUnify> ok im on it now
[04:06] <iUnify> thanks
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !addlens
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !noads
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i never can rember the factoid
[04:06] <smaudet> badabing: as a last resort we delete those files and keep on deleting files from dpkg until it forgets about its bad package
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> !lens
[04:06] <badabing> ok
[04:06] <badabing> lol
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> !adlens
[04:06] <smaudet> badabing: I want to make sure there's not a less hacky way of doing that
[04:06] <smaudet> so don't do that yet
[04:07] <IamTrying> wilee-nilee, Installed 13.10 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-amd64.iso  . But get black screen after grub screen.
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 gives you much better controll of the lenses
[04:07] <vanishing> IamTrying: try nomodeset
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> IamTrying, Go to #ubuntu+1 I can help you there.
[04:07] <sepero> iUnify: Dr_Willis is talking to you
[04:08] <iUnify> :) thx
[04:08] <IamTrying> Vanadis, then i do not get 720p resolution for hdmi and vga 1024x768 (same problem i had with 13.04 and kernel 3.11)
[04:08] <IamTrying> OK wilee-nilee
[04:08] <smaudet> so badabing if I could get another dpkg -l linux-image* so I can see the status of all packages so far
[04:09] <iUnify> Dr_Willis: Thanks... 13.10 eh.... ugh..... this stinks... my upgrades have been causing my monitor to turn on and off - can't go past 12.04 - new laptop and all....
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> i would think the older releases with a brand new hardware machine . would be more problematic
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 so far has been very problem free for me
[04:10] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: is 13.10 even out yet though?
[04:10] <iUnify> thats what I was saying
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> smaudet:  its in testing,. the vesion # is the date of release
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> 10th month 2013
[04:10] <smaudet> ...you don't recommend 'testing' products to the #ubuntu user channel
[04:10] <smaudet> only release stuff
[04:11] <smaudet> At least I wouldn't.
[04:11] <badabing> hrmmm
[04:11] <badabing> i opened software center
[04:11] <badabing> its trying to repair it says
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> did i  say to try it? i dont think so
[04:11] <badabing> :s
[04:11] <smaudet> badabing, if it can fix it great - I don't  have a lot of hope in it though.
[04:12] <smaudet> Generally the higher level tools depend on the lower level ones, and dpkg is as low level as you can go without manually deleting everything yourself
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> heh, everyone upgrade to 13.10 NOW
[04:12] <badabing> yup
[04:12] <badabing> its not going to work
[04:12] <badabing> stuck at the sda
[04:12] <badabing> im sure
[04:13] <smaudet> badabing, if I could get that pastebin of dpkg -l linux-image* again
[04:13] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  and file bug reports ! ;)
[04:13] <smaudet> Oh I am sure there are PLENTY of bugs in it.
[04:13] <smaudet> No thank you sir. ;)
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> havent really stumbled upon any so far.. compared to some other releases/disasters
[04:14] <badabing> just says no packages found
[04:14] <smaudet> badabing, ls /boot, check there is still an linux-image in there
[04:15] <smaudet> that dpkg output is bogus, cd ~
[04:15] <smaudet> run it again
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> its bad karma to remove all your kernels. ;)
[04:15] <vanishing> ^
[04:15] <smaudet> Dr_Willis: quite
[04:15] <vanishing> I did that before..lol
[04:15] <smaudet> Its also bad karma to stop an update in the middle of kernel update
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> the old computer-janitor used to do it also
[04:15] <smaudet> what cause badabing's mess
[04:15] <badabing> i didnt
[04:15] <badabing> it just happened
[04:16] <smaudet> well anyways, incredibly unfortunate
[04:16] <badabing> hrmm
[04:16] <vanishing> dang..thats bad
[04:16] <badabing> just a bunch of init
[04:16] <badabing> system map
[04:16] <smaudet> badabing, can you at least pastebinit so I can see what is in there?
[04:16] <smaudet> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:16] <smaudet> if it lets you
[04:17] <badabing> http://pastebin.com/3BNdtjiR
[04:17] <badabing> haaaaaaaalp
[04:18] <smaudet> badabing, once we verify that you actually still have a kernel on your hard drive, I'm very tempted to tell you to remove your external storage and reboot the machine - that might fix the /dev/sda problem if it is somehow related.
[04:18] <badabing> ok
[04:18] <badabing> sure
[04:18] <smaudet> badabing, yeah you're fine
[04:18] <badabing> im losing steam quick
[04:18] <smaudet> you've got many kernels
[04:18] <badabing> thanks for all your help
[04:18] <IDontHaveANickna> I don't understand.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> I live on the edge only one kernel set always
[04:19] <badabing> baller
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, I keep max 3 around
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, one old trusted, one current
[04:19] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, maybe one experimental
[04:20] <xmetal> i usually only have 2 kernels at any time
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> somthing old, somthing new, somthing...
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> they really should add in a  auto-clean out or at least ask..  old kernels fteature
[04:22] <smaudet> Yeah
[04:22] <Dr_Willis>  ive seen guys in here with like 12+ kernels
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> in a boot partition to boot
[04:23] <smaudet> keeping the boot partition small can help
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> i just dont see much point in a seperate /boot/ partion these days either
[04:23] <smaudet> its the people that don't have one that end up with tons of kernels installed
[04:23] <vanishing> Dr_Willis: I always keep an ubuntu kernel, and a custom built pf kernel
[04:23] <badabing> ok
[04:23] <badabing> brb
[04:23] <xmetal> hmm
[04:23] <vanishing> purge the rest
[04:23] <xmetal> i am not sure but i think bleachbit can do that
[04:23] <smaudet> If you limit yourself to 100-200 MB you can't install more than 3 or 4 anyways
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> but they  should be the ones that realize they need to clean out old kernels.. if they knew enoguh to make a seperate /boot/
[04:24] <xmetal> true @ Dr
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> i keep spare .iso files on my /boot/ ;) and make a grub entry to boot them. that way i can boot a rescue cd really fast ;P
[04:25] <smaudet> I think my e-mail just beeped at me O.o
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> I keep iso and supergrub on a usb
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> iso's
[04:25] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, well I've logged in
[04:26] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, any good free steam games I can test with?
[04:26] <smaudet> wow, Dota 2 is free to play huh
[04:26] <smaudet> and works on linux no less
[04:27] <grendal-prime> damn
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> i thought tf2 was now free also
[04:27] <grendal-prime> i handnt looked at jitsi in a long time
[04:27] <grendal-prime> that is straight up badd ass
[04:27] <smaudet> yeah it is, does it run on linux?
[04:27] <junktext> Yeah, TF2 runs on Linux.
[04:27] <grendal-prime> ya it does
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> many of the main valve games are on linux steam
[04:27] <grendal-prime> oh..two threads there
[04:28] <smaudet> well I'm not going to install right no
[04:28] <smaudet> now
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, tf2
[04:28] <sysop3231> running ubuntu 12.10. apache2. vanilla install. created .htaccess file, put in ErrorDocument 400 /var/www/orchestra/error/error.html, and it still displays the default apache message. what am i missing? its not a complicated process, but apparently ubuntu.com, apache.org think that this should be all that i have to do.
[04:28] <smaudet> but blarget_ubuntu it looks it works just fine
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> man
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> why doesnt mine work
[04:28] <blarget_ubuntu> >:(
[04:28] <grendal-prime> someone doesn like you?
[04:28] <grendal-prime> i mean that is usally the reason for this sort of thing
[04:29] <grendal-prime> have you done things that would be considered..."bad" to alot of people.
[04:29] <OerHeks> hybrid or ancient GPU?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> it's not the amount but the depth, lol
[04:29] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, know any SMALL games? i.e. smaller than a Gig?
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> well it keeps saying i dont have libc, so i looked it up and aparently i have bad drivers, but intel drivers dont exist for 12.04 anymore...
[04:29] <smaudet> ?
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet ....
[04:29] <blarget_ubuntu> hmm
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> idk
[04:30] <grendal-prime> blarget_ubuntu, you running 12.10 and trying to do what.
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> 12.04
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> lts
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> trying to run steam
[04:30] <smaudet> trying to run steam
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> looked up error, got some crap about bad drivers
[04:30] <vubuntor003> Sorry,I downloaded Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit iso for 3 times,used unetbootin to make a bootable USB but I always get "can not mount /dev/loop0" error
[04:30] <blarget_ubuntu> looked up drivers, no install out dated
[04:30] <grendal-prime> oops sorry i read that wrong
[04:30] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, is your graphics card intel? when you say its not supported?
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> intel has that 01.org site for newer intel drivers. and theres some updated ppas also
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, You checked the sum of the iso?
[04:30] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, 'cause I have nvidia
[04:31] <jrib> sysop3231: how are you testing this?
[04:31] <vubuntor003> It's matched!
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> i have intel hd 3000
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> horrid low end laptop stuff
[04:31] <blarget_ubuntu> still runs tf2 at 60 fps tho
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, Try another usb loader there are many, you loading from what OS?
[04:31] <grendal-prime> who was it earlyer going on and on about teamviwer and jitsi?
[04:32] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, bad drivers are bad drivers, 13.04 isn't going to make a difference if the drivers aren't there
[04:32] <vanishing> blarget_ubuntu: its not that bad
[04:32] <vanishing> :D
[04:32] <sysop3231> jrib: fyi i added error docs for all errors. restart apache. chown everything correctly. then i just request non-existing page.
[04:32] <researcher> how do I know from command line what system version and 32 or 64 bit I have
[04:33] <jrib> sysop3231: so what docs are you reading that tell you this should work?
[04:33] <grendal-prime> basically I wanted to thank them
[04:33] <researcher> !lsb
[04:33] <vubuntor003> wilee-nilee: I'm using windows for now. It's bootable for Ubuntu 12.04 and older. I have tried another USB drive...
[04:33] <sysop3231> jrib: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/custom-error.html
[04:33] <grendal-prime> jitsi has come a long way
[04:33] <researcher> !release
[04:33] <smaudet> grendal-prime, it really has
[04:33] <smaudet> grendal-prime, better than skype now :)
[04:33] <jrib> sysop3231: seems like path should be relative to your document root?
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> researcher, uname -a
[04:34] <grendal-prime> im gonna set up xmmp server again
[04:34] <Flannel> sysop3231: Do you have AllowOverride properly set?
[04:34] <jrib> sysop3231: also did you make sure the vanilla config allows .htaccss to override this?
[04:34] <grendal-prime> so i can do the vid chat with all the kidlets and wive and whatnot
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor003, I would try another usb loader, pendrivelinux has some listed that run in windows
[04:34] <grendal-prime> the google interface for that is so damn clunky
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, you dont understand
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there IS drivers for 13.04
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there ISNT for 12.04
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> that is why ima update
[04:35] <grendal-prime> you got to do all this werid stuff to get the vidchat to work...but that jitsi  interface looks totally simple..
[04:35] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, is there no deb file?
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> for steam?
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> oh for the drivers
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> no
[04:35] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, speaking of which there is always a deb file where repositories are involved
[04:35] <blarget_ubuntu> there isnt
[04:35] <grendal-prime> smaudet,  have you used it with xmmp server ..like openfire yet?
[04:36] <smaudet> grendal-prime, can't say I have
[04:36] <grendal-prime> well im gonna look into it tomorro
[04:36] <sysop3231> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077685/
[04:36] <sysop3231> Flannel: yes
[04:36] <grendal-prime> i have a very nice virtual environment i just finished up so ill throw a server on there.see how it goes
[04:36] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/69695/driver-for-intel-hd-3000-core-i7-2630qm ?
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> intel has their video driver instgaller (not via the repos) at the 01.org site  that might let you update them
[04:37] <sysop3231> jrib: i have made no modifications to the config. apache/ubuntu did not mention to do this, and did not provide instructions on how to do so.
[04:37] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[04:37] <grendal-prime> by the way..i dont know if any of you have check this out yet but i have been using this prog called palavar.
[04:37] <Flannel> sysop3231: Is it allowed in your virtualhost?
[04:37] <jrib> sysop3231: the link you just gave us mentions both things... (allowoverride and the expected format for the path)
[04:37] <grendal-prime> it does speech recog and uses the google speech server farm ..it is pretty amazing
[04:37] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-linux-graphics-installer-version-1.0.2
[04:37] <lijnk-m> I have an issue installing on a machine. After finishing the minimal installation, it boots in and just gives me a blinking cursor. It also won't let me into the BIOS as the screen flashes too quick.
[04:37] <blarget_ubuntu> scroll down and look at obsolete drivers
[04:37] <Flannel> sysop3231: Because if it's set to none, then htaccess files are ignored completely.
[04:38] <researcher> how to know my system release verions if 64 or 32 bit using command line?
[04:38] <grendal-prime> kid in bay area wrote this wrapper prog to interact with an ubuntu desktop..you have desktop control mode and dictation mode..
[04:38] <grendal-prime> works great
[04:38] <lijnk-m> It does have uefi, but I shut the secureboot off. Just wondering how I can unbrick it
[04:38] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, yeah but the sources are all there
[04:38] <smaudet> you could always compile
[04:38] <blarget_ubuntu> i am new to ubuntu
[04:38] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> like brand new
[04:39] <jrib> sysop3231: is there a reason you want to use .htaccess instead of modifying the apache configuration?
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> just installed it
[04:39] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, anyways it looks like there are already drivers as of april of this year on the launchpad page
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> which link should i click
[04:39] <blarget_ubuntu> or what should i download
[04:39] <grendal-prime> blarget_ubuntu,  want stuff to play wth...
[04:39] <grendal-prime> getdeb
[04:39] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, precise-pangolin
[04:39] <grendal-prime> getdeb.net
[04:39] <sysop3231> jrib: yes. i want this to be a simple installation,.. a drop-in type of site if you will. but apparently, this is not going to happen.
[04:39] <researcher> how can I join Virtual box channel?
[04:40] <smaudet> and then amd64/i386 depending on if you have a 64 bit or 32 bit ubuntu
[04:40] <jrib> sysop3231: I don't understand
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> researcher, #vbox
[04:40] <researcher> #vbox
[04:40] <blarget_ubuntu> xserver-xorg-video-intel_2.17.0.orig.tar.gz?
[04:40] <researcher> wilee-nilee: thanks'
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> researcher, /j #vbox
[04:40] <grendal-prime> research...
[04:40] <Flannel> sysop3231: it will.  You just need to not disable AllowOverride.
[04:40] <grendal-prime> '/join #vbox'
[04:40] <grendal-prime> but without the  '
[04:40] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.17.0-1ubuntu4.4
[04:40] <smaudet> if you have 64 bit
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> i do
[04:41] <Flannel> sysop3231: Most "real" webservers allow it, because they need to give their users some control (htaccess), without giving them all control (modifying virtualhosts)
[04:41] <smaudet> you can check which version you have already using dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video
[04:41] <grendal-prime> researcher,  you should probably look at the "howto use irc"  via the google first though
[04:41] <smaudet> or synaptic if you have that
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> so just run this
[04:41] <blarget_ubuntu> and steam MIGHT work
[04:41] <sysop3231> Flannel: when did i disable "Allow Override"?
[04:42] <sysop3231> Flannel: a vanilla install does this automatically?
[04:42] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, download the deb file
[04:42] <smaudet> run it
[04:42] <Flannel> sysop3231: yes.  In your virtualhost definition.
[04:42] <smaudet> yeah
[04:42] <smaudet> it might work
[04:42] <smaudet> assuming you don't already have it installed
[04:42] <Flannel> sysop3231: check out the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-available/
[04:42] <Flannel> (or sites-enabled, if you prefer, same files)
[04:42] <smaudet> that's what the dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video* is for
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> smaudet, this looks like it wont work
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> it is erroring
[04:43] <vubuntor003> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads Do we need to install kernel,mesa,xorg,....?
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> it wont lat me copy aste the error
[04:43] <smaudet> mm yeah so it needs some other packages most likely
[04:43] <vubuntor003> or just the deb one?
[04:43] <blarget_ubuntu> explain what i need to do like i am 5
[04:44] <sysop3231> Flannel: thank you for your help, i feel i am getting somewhere. let me ask you this.
[04:44] <sysop3231> Flannel: On a 100% untouched, vanilla install, how do you set up a custom error page?
[04:44] <smaudet> A) find the driver package B) make sure you don't already have it C) install D) if it yells at you, read the error message and find that thing and install it E) When you get tired of doing that, just use apt-get
[04:45] <smaudet> Sorry I gotta go, best of luck
[04:45] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:45] <blarget_ubuntu> ok
[04:45] <sysop3231> Flannel: because im getting 13 different answers. and none of them have worked, and i assume its because no one is taking me step by step from beginning to end.
[04:46] <Syme> Hey all. I was given some bad(malicious) advice, and my entire OS was deleted. I had Ubuntu before, fully replacing the Windows 8 that came with my Acer Aspire 1 laptop. I tried reinstalling Ubuntu from a flash drive, but the HDD security wouldn't let me boot after the restart at the end of installation. In grub, pretty much every command tells me Secure Boot won't allow it. Is there anything I can do? Ubuntu preview loads just fine, an
[04:46] <turbulence> Hello
[04:46] <turbulence> I had a quick question about versions
[04:47] <Syme> he preview, but I doubt it'll work.
[04:47] <turbulence> Syme what's that?
[04:47] <jrib> turbulence: ask your actual question
[04:47] <smaudet> blarget_ubuntu, before I go I will say I have libc >= 2.15 installed, maybe that is your problem. Dunno why they wouldn't install it for you.
[04:47] <smaudet> cheers
[04:47] <turbulence> Jrib my question is for you actually
[04:48] <turbulence> With all the semen you swallow at highway rest stops, do you get to love the flavor over time
[04:48] <Flannel> sysop3231: The easy way?  Modify the appropriate virtual hosts in sites-available as appropriate and add ErrorDocument directives.  If you want to do it with htaccess, then modify those same files to not disable AllowOverride, and then you can go the htaccess route.
[04:48] <junktext> So, I need help.  I tried using Steam in the LXDE environment and ever since I cannot use Steam at all.  Not even in Unity now.  I posted my details of my problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2171881&p=12782121
[04:48] <turbulence> Lol
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> damn it, all i want to do is play Steam in ubuntu, and its not making it easy.
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> :/
[04:49] <Syme> I posted a question in askubuntu, if anyone can help me there. I'm royally screwed.
[04:49] <jgk> hello
[04:49] <blarget_ubuntu> who else here has a intel hd 3000 and is running ubuntu 12.04 with steam
[04:50] <sysop3231> Flannel: the default AllowOverride directive in the vhost section is None. That is an 'out of the box' setting. What do i have to change that setting to, so that apache pays attention to my .htaccess file?
[04:50] <jrib> sysop3231: why don't you just set ErrorDocument in the vhost configuration?
[04:50] <Flannel> sysop3231: "All" would work.  For now, go with "all", you may wish to allow only a subset later (see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowoverride )
[04:50] <Flannel> jrib: he already answered that, he won't always have access to it.
[04:51] <Syme> Is there any way to install Ubuntu on a machine with secure boot that has no OS on it? I really need help here.
[04:51] <smaudet> can someone else help blarget_ubuntu ? 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel'
[04:52] <blarget_ubuntu> unmet dependencies
[04:52] <blarget_ubuntu> do i install those?
[04:53] <blarget_ubuntu> ok installing the xserver one
[04:54] <Syme> Anyone?
[04:55] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: I still get "can not mount /dev/loop0" error
[04:55] <jrib> Flannel: I don't see where he said that; I was under the assumption he wanted to set this up on a "vanilla install".  If he needs to change AllowOverride anyway, then he may as well just set ErrorDocument in the vhost imho
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i thought you had to disable secure boot Syme .
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Syme:  check askubuntu.com yet?
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, HOw much ram do you have?
[04:57] <vubuntor661> 4GB
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, YOu might try a mini ISO net load.
[04:57] <blarget_ubuntu> YES! Steam is doing something! thank you for everyone that helped!
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[04:58] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: but why 12.10,12.04 can boot smoothly?
[04:58] <sysop3231> Flannel: progress has been made. it's decided to print out the text "error.html" rather than display the html file.
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Not sure to be honest, it is a strange problem, you have checked the sum you say.
[04:58] <Syme> Yes, I've asked a question on askubuntu but no answer there. Been searching the Internet for hours too. Nothing coming up. Figured I should try some live people.
[04:58] <vubuntor661> Yeah,every files in the Iso...
[04:59] <jrib> sysop3231: are you specifying paths relative to your document root? (i.e. probably shouldn't begin with "/var/www"?)
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, This is a standard computer not a uefi fast boot w8 install?
[04:59] <sysop3231> jrib: i have just tried every combination i can think of
[04:59] <vubuntor661> I don't have a good internet connection so net-install will take the whole day to install...and my computer if UEFI with secureboot
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: what is the one you are trying now exactly?
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: /var/www/html/error.html, /error.html, error.html
[05:00] <Cache_Money1> i'm trying to run Wireshark on my Ubuntu VM.  How do I find the router's IP, as well as my own?
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: just tried those 3
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: and what's your document root...?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Ah, have you looked at the uefi wiki, and tried the options, I assume you probably have.
[05:00] <sysop3231> jrib: /var/www/html
[05:00] <jrib> sysop3231: why do you have "orchestra" in your pastebin?
[05:01] <sysop3231> jrib: for the sake of this question, i brought up a brand new VM that was untouched. So i couldnt be blamed for changing anything in the config. So i can say with authority, this is a BRAND NEW installation unsullied by me.
[05:01] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: I tried both "Fast-startup" on/off...Already tried turn off Secure options...(obviously what I tried worked very well with Ubuntu 12.04)
[05:02] <sysop3231> jrib: so at the end of the day once i figure this out, i can email apache and say that their documentation is useless.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, 12.04.3 has the raring kernel, and has 5 years support, that night be the easiest option.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> might*
[05:02] <jrib> sysop3231: if /var/www/html is your DocumentRoot and /var/www/html/error.html exists on your filesystem, then you would want to set "ErrorDocument 404 /error.html".  The apache documentation covers all these issues you are dealing with, but you have to read it thoroughly
[05:03] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: intel has stopped support  Intel Graphics driver for 12.04...
[05:03] <lijnk-m> Found my issue was I needed to hit F1 during an extremely small window to reach the bios menu page. Dumb system imo :/
[05:03] <Flannel> jrib, sysop3231: If you're 100% vanilla, then the DocumentRoot is /var/www, not /var/www/html
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, Ah, not really an area I can truly run through all possible answers is all.
[05:03] <sysop3231> Flannel: my mistake. that is correct.
[05:04] <sysop3231> Flannel: habit from my redhat days.
[05:04] <Syme> http://askubuntu.com/questions/342802/installing-ubuntu-on-a-secureboot-machine-with-no-existing-os
[05:04] <Flannel> sysop3231: so, is error.html in /var/www/html?
[05:04] <jrib> sysop3231: (and you need to specify /html/error.html as the path assuming it is)
[05:04] <sysop3231> Flannel: ill make a pastebin real quick so you can see where I am at.
[05:05] <Flannel> sysop3231: I'd prefer you just answer the question, but if it's in the pastebin, then so be it.
[05:06] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: USB filesystem has to be FAT32,right?
[05:06] <DUMBSTAR> so uhm, hi everyone, i have some questions regarding ubuntu
[05:06] <Syme> I really need to get an answer here. My boss is on me.
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, I use that always
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Syme:  you just posted that to askubuntu.com ? you did search there first i hope. ;)
[05:07] <vubuntor661> wilee-nilee: by the way,when I got the error,it also said "Invalid argument"...
[05:09] <Syme> Yes, like I said, I searched there. That's why I'm asking now.
[05:09] <jrib> Syme: you've read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[05:09] <sysop3231> Flannel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6077745/
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> vubuntor661, I have to wonder since your download speed is so slow that even though the sum is correct there might still be problems, other than that I'm not more than a armchair user with to much time. So I know more that an average user in general, but I have not dealt with more than my own problems in detail.
[05:09] <pepper_chico> hi, I just installed ubuntu 13.04 on a macbook, it's kind of weird, my lock screen now gets an old style simple white lockscreen window, before in other installations I aways got a nice lock screen I think, any way to fix this?
[05:10] <sysop3231> Flannel: Oh, and before you ask. Yes, everything is chowned to www-data.www-data
[05:10] <Flannel> sysop3231: So, if you go http://yourserver/error.html, it shows up?
[05:11] <Syme> Yes, all the guides I've found tell me about disabling things through the windows 8 interface itself, or through its boot menu. I don't have windows 8 anymore, so I can't do that. I basically only have the grub interface to work with.
[05:11] <pepper_chico> any knowledge on that?
[05:11] <pepper_chico> this lock screen is ugly...
[05:14] <sysop3231> Flannel: correctly. in another VM ive brought up scientific linux 6, and modified the vhost to AllowOVerride all,. and the httaccess file is working there.
[05:14] <Mace268> Any ideas why my sound goes corrupt when I change the volume? I have to restart ALSA to fix it every time.
[05:14] <Flannel> sysop3231: and all of this is via http, and not https, right?
[05:14] <sysop3231> Flannel: not sure whats going on in the ubuntu vm.. ill have to use SL6 for this project.
[05:14] <DUMBSTAR> so whats the best way to go about installing ubuntu 12.something on my windows machine, can i just make a small ass partition and do some magic to get it to boot to the install of ubuntu without messing up my windows/work partition?
[05:14] <Flannel> sysop3231: Have at it then.
[05:15] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: yes.
[05:15] <sysop3231> Flannel: thanks for the help, im sure im missing something somehow.
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> DUMBSTAR, do the voodoo that you must do.
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> thanks CarlFK
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> lol
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  resize your partitions, install ubuntu to its own partion. use grub to select the os. is the normal way
[05:15] <DUMBSTAR> grub?
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  yes. GRUB is the default bootloader ubuntu uses
[05:16] <DUMBSTAR> pretend i have no idea with linux, im a super windows god, but i have seen the future...windows 8 sucks.
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  first step woule be to make backups of your system. just in case
[05:16] <DUMBSTAR> backups are for people that might do things wrong ;)
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  next step would be to make a bootable usb flash , or cd/dvd
[05:16]  * wilee-nilee looks for his slingshot
[05:16] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: the slight magic you are missing: windows lives in a partition, but part of the windows install is to install a boot loader onto a special part of your drive.. that will be replaced with grub - but it can load windows too, so you are fine
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  if you dont want to bother with backups.. then go for it.
[05:17] <jrib> Syme: that link says you should use your bios
[05:17] <tfowl> Is there a way to backup my USB flash drive  with Arch ArmV5 on it from my pogo plug that isn't terminal?  A simple UI way?  I am newer to Ubuntu/Arch and that part was a bit confusing.
[05:17] <DUMBSTAR> ok, so i have a usb, can i just make that bootable with the ubuntu installer/file i just downloaded?
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> id be sure to hav ea windows rescue/restore/recovery dvd set made
[05:17] <DUMBSTAR> (to install to my hard drive)
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  you use a ubuntu iso file. and some of the many tools out there from the ubuntu site or the pendrivelinux site to make it into a bootable usb
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> DUMBSTAR:  if you are refering to  the 'wubi' tool. i sugest you dont use wubi.
[05:18] <DUMBSTAR> cool thanks everyone for the help so far, better that company support, its like the cummunity is...a group of humans
[05:18] <Syme> So I can access a BIOS when all my computer has is its boot loader?
[05:19] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: oh,I got
[05:19] <vubuntor661> "mount /dev/loop0 failed"
[05:19] <jrib> Syme: can you?
[05:19] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: what should I do now?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  i got no idea what you are doing.
[05:19] <aarcane> are ubuntu 12.04.3 and 13.04 Images hybrid ISOs yet?  Hybrid ISOs are the type of ISOs that can be written to a USB drive using dd instead of having to use an arbitrary third party utility like unetbootin or universal USB installer
[05:19] <jrib> Syme: I can do so on every computer I've tried.  But maybe new computers can't.  I don't know.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> aarcane:  yes they are
[05:20] <CarlFK> DUMBSTAR: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:20] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis: Download 13.04 iso, use pendrivelinux to make bootable usb,usb can boot but i got "mount /dev/loop0 fail: invalid argument"
[05:20]  * DUMBSTAR looks for a usb backup drive...not so confident with his non-existent linux skills
[05:20] <Syme> I don't know, computers surprise me. But that's my question. I'm trying to find out if there's a way to disable secure boot without any OS at all. Since mines been wild.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> vubuntor661:  could be the iso was bad. or the tool did somthing stupid.   or thres some weird bug with the tool used.
[05:21] <jrib> Syme: well can you get to your bios?
[05:21] <DUMBSTAR> thanks CarlFK
[05:21] <aarcane> Syme, there should be.  Press F1 or F2 or Delete to load the BIOS/UEFI Setup page, and go through the menues to find an option to disable Secure Boot.
[05:21] <nathan> Can I get some help with a wifi card issue?
[05:22] <vanishing> !ask | nathan
[05:23] <nathan> Well, no matter what solutions I try, I can't get my wifi working. apparently its a jockey problem with broadcom stuff. I'm not sure.
[05:23] <vubuntor661> Dr_Willis:  double-check - ISO MD5,files MD5,everything is good
[05:23] <vubuntor661> (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: invalid argument. Can not mount /dev/loop0 (cdrom/casperfilesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs.
[05:23] <Syme> I'm not seeing any buttons that do anything. The boot manager has one option: "1.HDD (WDC WD3200BPVT-22JJ5T0)" I select that and it says HDD has been blocked my the current security policy.
[05:24] <vubuntor661> Syme: did you check your BIOS?
[05:24] <aarcane> vubuntor661, I've never been able to get casper to work.  Try to create a new USB drive without casper enabled.
[05:25] <vubuntor661> aarcane: how?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> nathan, You seen the broadcom link the bot gives?
[05:25] <Syme> So I don't know if I can access my bios, or even if I still have one.