[03:28] <Samus> bucky: are you really new to GNU+Linux operating systems ?  I have said four or five times already that I removed the "logrotate" executable from the system and replaced it with a symlink to /bin/true.
[03:29] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: back up first. :)  I have them installed and works fine
[03:29] <heogen> ikonia, how have you been?
[03:29] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: are you running 64bit or 32?
[03:29] <IdleOne> usser_: anymore thoughts?
[03:29] <bucky> Samus, why did you do that?
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: 64bit Jaunty
[03:29] <br34l> \o/
[03:29] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: Core i7 920 if the cpu matters :)
[03:30] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: how new are you to linux?
[03:30] <zebastian0> shane2peru downloading
[03:30] <MagnoFlux> •bobertdos• seems i gotta roll for today - thx for lookin at my prob tho - ill bbl
[03:30] <Samus> bucky: because I don't want log files to ever rotate
[03:30] <bucky> Samus, if you just go about rm'ing files you're going to screw up your package manager
[03:30] <shane2peru> zebastian0: ok, when it is done, installation should be simple
[03:30] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: I've used Ubuntu since Hardy Heron -- tested Live CDs out since Hoary HedgeHog
[03:30] <Samus> bucky: and Ubuntu doesn't give you the option to remove the package without removing most of the system
[03:31] <Gaming4JC> Shane2peru: So I know my way around terminals and have a novice/intermediate feel for them
[03:31] <bucky> Samus, actually it does.. it's called equivs
[03:31] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: ok, here is the link:  http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.HTML
[03:31] <Samus> bucky: you can't screw up apt by removing files, unless those files are part of apt's configuration.  and as I said, I didn't remove any files, I replaced the system default
[03:31] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: look at the instructions too, and you should be able to install it
[03:32] <rashed2020> Guys, I have a bash script that runs fine when I run it manually. But doesn't when in a cronjob. Any clues?
[03:32] <Samus> bucky: you're still missing the point: how is Ubuntu rotating my log files when my system doesn't have a logrotate binary on it ?
[03:32] <usser_> IdleOne, seems fishy, some people claim the issue is the kernel others blame the driver
[03:32] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: you should be able to install that yourself, fairly easily, just make sure you look at the instructions
[03:33] <IdleOne> usser_: so for now I am stuck in limbo
[03:33] <Gaming4JC> shane2peru: Thanks for the info! :D looking into it now...
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, i dunno, if you have enough expertise you can try building your own kernel or just wait for karmic koala
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, yea pretty much
[03:33] <ramiro> rashed2020: .bashrc isn't sourced?
[03:33] <IdleOne> usser_: I will wait but thanks for your help :)
[03:33] <shane2peru> Gaming4JC: no prob, if you run into a snag I will probably be here
[03:33] <usser_> IdleOne, no problem
[03:34] <MrSchmo> is firefox 3.5 pre-release the latest version for linux?
[03:34] <usser_> MrSchmo, the latest version for linux is whatever is on mozilla.com
[03:35] <bucky> Samus, you're the one who knows everything.. you tell me
[03:36]  * eliotn wants his ubuntu computer to compete with that new mac
[03:36] <kudi1> is it me or is firefox 3.5 not as stable
[03:36] <DasEi> MrSchmo: in usual ways yes, but you could (own risk) also add the repo and have the latest nightly build
[03:36] <usser_> kudi1, firefox is stable is an oxymoron :)
[03:37] <robb> 9.04 having issues with sound?
[03:38] <robb> see some comments re: thinkpad's
[03:38] <Samus> bucky: I came here with that simple question.  nobody has tried to answer it yet.
[03:38] <robb> mute button self-activating or something
[03:38] <blubbb> !ppp
[03:38] <kudi1> usser_: lulz
[03:39] <Samus> bucky: I do know that you can't harm apt by deleting a file in /usr/sbin as you suggested (which I didn't do, I replaced it).  no need to get snarky at me just because you couldn't answer my question and gave out misinformation
[03:40] <jmarsden> !attitude | Samus
[03:40] <n8tuser> Samus-> you kept telling you replaced your logrotate, where? which script?
[03:41] <wartalker> how to set ghe UI font in openoffice ?
[03:41] <zebastian0> BRB
[03:41] <zebastian0> quit
[03:42] <wartalker> how to set the UI font for openoffice ?
[03:42] <jmarsden> !patience | wartalker
[03:42] <tyler_d> I am able to connect to my cisco vpn host, but when I attempt to access any remote resources it simply times out?
[03:43] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you get it downloaded?
[03:43] <zebastian> shane2peru,  yes
[03:43] <zebastian> now what do i do
[03:43] <Samus> n8tuser: I said several times that I replaced the /usr/sbin/logrotate binary with a symlink to /bin/true.  I also replaced the contents of /etc/cron.daily/logrotate with only "/bin/true" in it
[03:44] <shane2peru> ok, to install this it is best to go to a tty terminal and we are going to kill x, so you are going to need to write these instructions down
[03:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ^^^^^
[03:44] <zebastian> shane2peru,  hold on a moment
[03:44] <zebastian> i'll be right back ok
[03:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, no prob
[03:44] <joeb3_> tyler_d, you running any firewalls?
[03:45] <Samus> jmarsden: I've spent literally thousands of hours on IRC helping people with GNU+Linux and related apps.  I am well aware people here are volunteers.
[03:45] <tyler_d> joeb3_: no
[03:45] <n8tuser> Samus-> and you restarted syslogd afterwards?
[03:45] <kudi1> mplayer was working fine b4 this is the error i get when trying to play a song from my library in sonata:
[03:46] <Samus> n8tuser: the system has been rebooted several times since then
[03:46] <SuperMiguel> how you open virtualbox 3.0 when you install it in ubuntu?
[03:46] <Samus> well, at least twice.
[03:46] <gwildor> SuperMiguel, accessories.... form the menu
[03:46] <n8tuser> yeah that would be an effective syslogd restart...
[03:46] <joeb3_> SuperMiguel, apps, system tools, virtualbox
[03:47] <kudi1> how do you copy in xterm?
[03:47] <Samus> I see rotated log files from yesterday, the day before, etc.  yet I did the symlink thing weeks or months back
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> Thanks for the help :)
[03:47] <mow> SuperMiguel > try VirtualBox in term
[03:47] <Samus> not to mention the cron.daily file for it doesn't have anything in it other than /bin/true
[03:47] <Gaming4JC> bye for now
[03:47] <kudi1> what is this:  DeprecationWarning: the multifile module has been deprecated since Python 2.4
[03:47] <SuperMiguel> gwildor, Joe_ i installed 3.0 is not there... whats the actuall patch? the folder where it gets installed?
[03:47] <Samus> logrotate is like The Terminator, unstoppable ...
[03:49] <Samus> SuperMiguel: the default X11 client can be loaded from the menus.  there are also three other clients which can be started from the command line: RDP, headless, SDL
[03:49] <joeb3_> SuperMiguel, /usr/bin/VirtualBox
[03:50] <SuperMiguel> joeb3_, thanks
[03:52] <Schmitty> does anyone know of a windows antivirus scanner that actually runs on linux, I E ubuntu software that scans a windows partition?
[03:52] <Korlis> yo all
[03:52] <zebaztian> shane2peru, ok now tell me what i have to do again
[03:52] <mow> Schmitty > fprot
[03:53] <shane2peru> zebaztian: ok, let me look over the instructions, you should click the link too:  https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_cat99-inst.pdf
[03:53] <Schmitty> let me check this out mow
[03:53] <zebaztian> shane2peru,  you know what let me get on the windows laptop
[03:53] <Oneshade> can anyone help me out real quick? Im new to linux and Im trying to get it to connect to the internet (Im using the ubunutu server edition, latest version) and It keeps getting destination host unreachable when I try to ping any ip adress. I had followed a guide to get it set up, so it has a static IP adress, but I dont think I changed much else. or if anyone can point me in the direction of a guide for this kind of problem
[03:53] <zebaztian> while i fiddle on here
[03:54] <shane2peru> zebaztian: oh, wait, we don't have to kill x in Ubuntu, we are fine
[03:54] <Korlis> Oneshade: are you on that machine right now?
[03:54] <pitput> I have ubuntu installed on a partition. Can I somehow "expand" to use the free space I have on my harddrive now since I deleted the windows partition?
[03:54] <Oneshade> its sitting next to me
[03:55] <Oneshade> its not this computer that im on irc with, no
[03:55] <Korlis> Oneshade: ok, cuz it sounds like it's not connecting to the internet
[03:55] <Schmitty> mow, this isn't what I was looking for. This is antivirus for windows running on linux
[03:55] <IdleOne> !gparted > pitput
[03:55] <Schmitty> I need antivirus running on linux for windows
[03:55] <Korlis> Oneshade:  are you using wireless or wired
[03:55] <zebastian> ok shane2peru tell me exactly what i have to do nwo
[03:56] <Korlis> Schmitty: look up avast
[03:56] <jmarsden> Schmitty: clamav ?
[03:56] <bastid_raZor> pitput: follow the liveCD option of what ubottu said.
[03:56] <MrSchmo> hey guys im trying to install firefox and i get "bash" /usr/bin/firefox" error. i tried uninstalling and install but i get the same thing
[03:56] <Schmitty> you guysare sure you understand me
[03:56] <zebastian> shane2peru i downloaded the driver to desktop sand have the terminal open
[03:56] <Oneshade> Korlis: wired. I just set this machine up with a fresh install yesterday, so nothing is really configured except the couple programs i installed and the static ip
[03:56] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, we are going to open up a terminal
[03:56] <zebastian> done
[03:56] <MrSchmo> hey guys im trying to install firefox and i get "bash" /usr/bin/firefox: No such file directory" error. i tried uninstalling and install but i get the same thing
[03:56] <Korlis> Oneshade: are you planning on using it as a server?
[03:56] <pitput> bastid_raZor, that seems very dangerous to do
[03:56] <juanpablo> hola
[03:56] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, we need to type this:  sudo chmod +x ati(tab)
[03:56] <mow> Schmitty > if it's windows, can't you just use a windows antivirus?
[03:57] <juanpablo> alguien me puede ayudar ?
[03:57] <Oneshade> Korlis: yeah I was hoping to.
[03:57] <pitput> bastid_raZor, I just somehow want to "expand" the free space for my ubuntu
[03:57] <shane2peru> zebastian: tab will complete the name of the file
[03:57] <jamiejackson> hi, i just ran "sudo mdadm --assemble /dev/sda2 /dev/sdb2" accidentally, instead of specifying /dev/md0 first. how do i recover from this?
[03:57] <Schmitty> mow: no. To be truley productive I need to be able to remove a windows drive, throw it on a linux box and scan for virii
[03:57] <bastid_raZor> pitput: you will have to have the current partition unmounted in order to resize it. the gparted LiveCD is the best way to accomplish this
[03:57] <zebastian> shane2peru do i type "(tab)" or you mean press the tab key as the last part of the staetement?
[03:58] <pitput> bastid_raZor, are there any risks of losing my current data?
[04:03] <zebastian> shane2peru installation mode: custom or automatic?
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hih
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <Prodego> !ops
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: use automatic
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <IdleOne> otg: stop
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <otg> hh
[04:03] <otg> ih
[04:03] <coz_> otg,   we see that and hello
[04:03] <otg> ihi
[04:03] <otg> h
[04:03] <otg> i
[04:03] <Korlis> jmarsden, that wasnt my point, its not there by default, plus command.com isnt as powerful
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <IdleOne> otg: stop please
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: automatic mode is better
[04:03] <otg> 幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹幹案幹幹幹幹幹幹幹案
[04:03] <GlaxoSmithStart> hello people
[04:03] <zebastian> shane2peru installation completed
[04:03] <zebastian> back to prompt
[04:03] <zebastian> now what
[04:03] <otg> hi
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: you should be able to reboot and you are good to go
[04:03] <shane2peru> zebastian: is that how you did it last time?
[04:04] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on, let me check that it worked
[04:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: it won't show till it is rebooted and xorg is reloaded
[04:04] <zebastian> i know
[04:04] <zebastian> i am rebooting now
[04:04] <shane2peru> zebastian: is that how you installed it before?
[04:04] <Samus> SuperMiguel: the default X11 client can be loaded from the menus.  there are also three other clients which can be started from the command line: RDP, headless, SDL
[04:04] <Samus> SuperMiguel: not sure if that got through before I disconnected
[04:05] <zebastian> shane2peru !!!!!!!!!!!!:( i got the same thign that i got the first time when everything went downhill, ubuntu is running in low graphics mode, your screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself
[04:06]  * zebastian clicks on ok
[04:06] <GlaxoSmithStart> hey guys, I have VMWare on Windows and my guest is Ubuntu.  When I disconnect my DNS messes up , anyone know why this might be happening or what I could do to fix it?
[04:06] <shane2peru> zebastian: really!  ahh, that isn't good indeed
[04:06] <zebastian> shane2peru now i am asked what i would like to do, run ubuntu in low graphics mode for just one session, reconfigure graphics, troubleshoot error, exit to console login
[04:06] <bastid_raZor> GlaxoSmithStart: possibly ask in #vmware
[04:06] <GlaxoSmithStart> thx
[04:07] <jak> ti59jui85rjgtioujgi
[04:07] <jev> 你認識我嗎
[04:07] <Schmitty> ['}}
[04:07] <jev> 甚麼
[04:07] <shane2peru> zebastian: wow, that is really not good, try reconfigure graphics and see if that fixes it, what did you chose last time?
[04:07] <IdleOne> !cn | jev
[04:07] <jev> 你會打國字嗎
[04:07] <zebastian> shane2peru i can't recall
[04:08] <sebsebseb> strange  I coudn't see who did !  o p s
[04:08] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long have you used linux?
[04:08] <juxta_> if I've made some changes to partition sizes and the like, which haven't been detected, how can I re-enumerate/rescan the disks/partitions without rebooting? I know there's a command for it, I've used it in the past, I just forget what it is
[04:08] <jev> 唉
[04:08] <jak> 委
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> !cn | jev
[04:08] <Amanj> hi..probelm Not Found
[04:08] <Amanj>  phpMyAdmin error
[04:08] <jev> 愛你
[04:08] <zebastian> shane2peru how would you like to reconfigure your display use default generic configuration, create new configuration for this hardware, user your backed up configuration
[04:08] <jak> 大便
[04:08] <kudi1> how do i add google to the search box on the left in firefox, i jus updated to 3.5 so i have to do a couple things manually
[04:08] <Schmitty> ??
[04:08] <IdleOne> !english > jev jak
[04:09] <GlaxoSmithStart> hey guys, I have VMWare on Windows and my guest is Ubuntu.  When I disconnect my internet my DNS messes up , anyone know why this might be happening or what I could do to fix it?
[04:09] <Schmitty> yes english is best
[04:09] <crankharder> hey, what's the goto solution for my idiot friends that I'm trying to convert to ubuntu when they tell me........ "i dont have a blank CD" ?
[04:09] <shane2peru> zebastian: try defualt generic configuration
[04:09] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long have you used Linux?
[04:09]  * crankharder bangs head on wall
[04:09] <sebsebseb> GlaxoSmithStart: I hope that's only to try Ubuntu, and later on you will do a proper install  say when 9.10 comes out,   you can ask for help in #vmware   people in here useually recommend Virtualbox :)
[04:10] <jmarsden> crankharder: Stick it on a USB flash drive instead
[04:10] <zebastian> shane2peru your configuration has been restored to default and your old configuration backed up, please restart
[04:10] <quartknee> Hey, can you name a few extra repositories that might help me find some key social-networking desktop tools?
[04:10] <shane2peru> zebastian: man, that is disappointing
[04:11] <shane2peru> zebastian: are you new to Linux?  ATI isn't known to be well supported in Linux, and I feel bad for you having this much hassle
[04:11] <Amanj> help
[04:11] <jmarsden> quartknee: Which "key social-networking desktop tools" do you have in mind?  Name them :)
[04:11] <jmarsden> !help Amanj
[04:11] <jmarsden> !help | Amanj
[04:11] <shane2peru> !ask | Amanj
[04:11] <zebastian> shane2peru, what do i do now? i mean, it looks like it did originally
[04:11] <kd8JHC> !ask | Amanj
[04:11] <shane2peru> zebastian: you mean after the fresh install?
[04:11] <zebastian> shane2peru i am not really new to linux but i didn't start putting my head into it till this year
[04:12] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, it looks like regular clean install confic
[04:12] <Amanj> me probelm Not Found
[04:12] <Amanj> http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10449
[04:12] <zebastian> shane2peru you think we got the right driver file=
[04:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: don't install the proprietary drivers again. :)
[04:12] <zebastian> how do you mean?
[04:12] <shane2peru> zebastian: yep, I'm sure of that, if you gave me the right graphics card info
[04:12] <zebastian> like dont do again
[04:13] <zebastian> what we justt did
[04:13] <Oneshade> can anyone help me on a ubuntu server edition (already installed, and with a LAMP already on it) get it to connect to the internet? whenever I try to use the ping command on any outside adress it wont work. Im new to linux, and this is a fresh install so barely anything has been changed (except it has a static ip set up)
[04:13] <shane2peru> zebastian: right, it didn't work, perhaps hold out till a new version is released?
[04:13] <shane2peru> zebastian: how new is the laptop?
[04:13] <dead1ock> why will gedit make a <filename>~ file after I edit files?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: new to Linux and already using the server edition hmm
[04:13] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Ask in #ubuntu-server , it is quieter in there :)
[04:13] <zebastian> shane2peru i bought about a month ago now
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: What kind of server are you doing?
[04:13] <kd8JHC> Oneshade: why are you running a server
[04:14] <sebsebseb> Oneshade: you can run  server stuff in the desktop install which may be easier for you, but if your doing a proper commercial server, sure the  server edition
[04:14] <veasmkii> deadlock, that should just be the temp file it creates
[04:14] <Pici> dead1ock: Because the default behavior is to save backup copies, check Edit>Preferences, Editor Tab, Filesaving to change that
[04:14] <shane2peru> zebastian: when I first bought my laptop, networking didn't work, sound didn't work, and ati graphics were a mess, intrepid was out, jaunty soon came out and things got better
[04:14] <quartknee> jmarsden well, these aren't social networking per se, but ComicStrip rss reader, rssowl, python-twitter are all things I've been looking at.
[04:15] <zebastian> shane2peru wait a sec
[04:15] <shane2peru> zebastian: I would have to say, you are going to have to either A.  try a different distro, or B.  Live with it the way it is and wait for Koala to be released
[04:15] <dead1ock> Pici: Thanks, it was being a hassle with git
[04:15] <zebastian> shane2peru what about hardy?
[04:15] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can continue searching for answers, but it is going to be tough
[04:15] <Pici> dead1ock: In bzr, you can have .bzrignore file, which will ignore certain filename patterns from being versioned, git might have something similar.
[04:15] <jmarsden> quartknee: python-twitter seems to be in the Jaunty repositories... sudo apt-get install pythin-twitter
[04:16] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on a moment ok
[04:16] <shane2peru> zebastian: I think it would be a waste of your time to try Hardy honestly, but if you have no other options and have the time, give it a try
[04:16] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok
[04:16] <DigitalKiwi> what is zebastians problem?
[04:16] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces (which you edited to set the static IP) please?
[04:17] <Amanj> shane2peru, probelm the phpmyadmin no found why? http://paste.org/pastebin/view/10449
[04:17] <Pici> jmarsden: It sounds like his default route is misconfigured to me.
[04:17] <harisund> The Firefox I am running on my Windows box is 3.5.<something> but the Firefox on my Ubuntu box is 3.0.<something>. Is this deliberate?
[04:17] <jmarsden> Pici: Quite possibly, yes.
[04:17] <zebastian> shane2peru what is the command to check which card i have
[04:17] <zebastian> lspci something?
[04:17] <RedSocrates> harisund, yes.  Firefox 3.5 doesn't ship with Jaunty; you'll have to install it yourself.
[04:17] <jmarsden> zebastian: lspci | grep -i vga
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> harisund: firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5 are a separate packages.
[04:17] <shane2peru> zebastian: right lspci | grep ati
[04:17] <Pici> harisund: FF3.5 wasn't out when Jaunty was released.
[04:18] <shane2peru> zebastian: oh, use jmarsden it will probably work better
[04:18] <DigitalKiwi> lspci | grep VGA is more generic
[04:18] <quartknee> jmarsden: Thank you! Do you suggest any other repositories worth picking up? I'd like to explore a little beyond the default ubuntu stuff.
[04:18] <harisund> RedSocrates, leaf-sheep, Pici ah ok .. is there any "official Ubuntu" way of install this Firefox that wouldn't void my warranty? ;-)
[04:18] <Pici> !ff35 | harisund
[04:19] <zebastian> shane2peru i got 01:05.9 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]
[04:19] <harisund> Pici, sweet man thanks. I am afraid to do anything with my Ubuntu box, else I go make a post in the forums and everyone yells at me "why do you do it like that, that is not the way things are done with Ubuntu" :) This is better
[04:19] <quartknee> Hey all! Do you suggest any other repositories worth picking up? I'd like to explore a little beyond the default ubuntu stuff.
[04:19] <shane2peru> zebastian: yep that is what we installed the 3xxx series
[04:19] <jmarsden> quartknee: Generally you can look in PPAs for interesting new stuff once you know what you are looking for. Not sure there are any "big" unofficial Ubuntu repos -- just a lot of people doing interesting things in tehir own PPAs on Launchpad.
[04:19] <zebastian> shane2peru why not the 3200 hd series?
[04:20] <RedSocrates> quartknee, how about medibuntu?  Or do you already have that?
[04:20] <shane2peru> zebastian: did I overlook it???
[04:20] <jmarsden> Oneshade: Seriously, can you /join #ubuntu-server and I will try to work with you on the server networking issue you are having in that channel ?
[04:21] <zebastian> shane2peru give me the link again
[04:21] <shane2peru> zebastian: because there is no 3200 series
[04:21] <shane2peru> zebastian: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[04:22] <n8tuser> Oneshade-> you can stay here too, nothing unique to make it a server only type of networking issue
[04:22] <pedro> hello
[04:22] <bastid_raZor> zebastian: have you tried the radeon driver?
[04:22] <jmarsden> n8tuser: Right, it is just a lot noisier in here :)
[04:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: I found it!
[04:22] <zebastian> shane2peru which is it?
[04:22] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: it's under integrated
[04:22] <shane2peru> zebastian: you have to click on integrated
[04:22] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: why didn't you point that out before? :)
[04:23] <n8tuser> jmarsden-> its okay, people have to share the learnings
[04:23] <pedro> necesito que me hayuden  a configurar mi servidor ubuntu 9.04
[04:23] <DigitalKiwi> well i didn't click the link until a minute ago
[04:23] <shane2peru> zebastian: I should probably install that on mine too!  lol
[04:23] <jmarsden> !es | pedro
[04:23] <n8tuser> jmarsden-> we can all benefit from sharing of such info
[04:23]  * zebastian is downloading
[04:24] <jmarsden> n8tuser: Sure.  But newcomers may find it easier to work in a quieter channel, that channel is open to all, including you, and is logged, just as this one is... I did not suggest going to private messages :)
[04:24] <shane2peru> zebastian: I'm about to check out for the night, do you think you can run through it again?
[04:24] <RabidWeezle> anyone gotten a virgin mobile broadband2go to work in ubuntu yet?
[04:24] <shane2peru> zebastian: how long for download?
[04:25] <zebastian> shane2peru hold on
[04:25] <zebastian> it's only
[04:25] <zebastian> it's about 8 minutes
[04:26] <zebastian> wait
[04:26] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, i got an EVDO card to work...
[04:26] <Out_Cold> if it's the same type of deal there are plenty tutorials
[04:26] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, did you have to do the "usb_modeswitch" thing?
[04:26] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can delete that other one
[04:26] <zebastian> shane2peru please help me try this out
[04:26] <zebastian> i did
[04:27] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, will do
[04:27] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, no i don't think so.
[04:27] <Out_Cold> which version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:27] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, kubuntu jaunty latest kernel
[04:27] <zebastian> i think KDE's female and GNOME is male
[04:28] <Out_Cold> i had to use netowrk manager to get it going i think.
[04:28] <Out_Cold> i haven't tried with wicd
[04:28] <DigitalKiwi> because KDE is subject to being bloated and GNOME only works when it wants to?
[04:28] <shane2peru> shane2peru: thinks wicd rules
[04:28]  * shane2peru thinks wicd rules
[04:28] <Out_Cold> haha kiwi
[04:28] <DigitalKiwi> <3 wicd
[04:28]  * zebastian concurs
[04:29] <Out_Cold> i use wicd too..
[04:29] <RabidWeezle> Out_Cold, big problem with this card is it's got a switchable usb storage on to hold the windows drivers XD
[04:29] <cjae> Does updatedb work for say a usb hdd? I need to  find a specific .pdf
[04:29] <Out_Cold> but haven't used it with EVDO
[04:29] <kd8JHC> my Verizon evdo card works perfectly in jaunty.. no extra stuff required
[04:29] <webbb82> i need some advise i have karmic installed at the moment but im thinkin about installing jaunty again so i can add kde can i install kde in karmic like in jaunty
[04:29] <Out_Cold> RabidWeezle, that doesn't sound like the same as i had.
[04:29] <bfox> zebastian:  let's hope they don't breed
[04:30] <jmarsden> cjae: You can ask updatedb to scan any mounted filesystem.  But for a eon time thing, find /media/whatever -name "name-of-file.pdf"  may be easier :)
[04:30] <Out_Cold> webbb82, it's the same process
[04:30] <sebsebseb> webbb82: yes and Karmic talk is here #ubuntu+1
[04:30] <seidos> !es | pedro
[04:30] <seidos> crap
[04:30] <seidos> I was scrolled up and didn't realize it
[04:30]  * seidos smacks himself
[04:31] <sebsebseb> !language |  seidos
[04:31] <sebsebseb> seidos: :) at the bot, and heh at you :D
[04:31] <zebastian> shane2peru since you installed yours are you able to run compiz and watch movies without them getting stuck?
[04:31] <seidos> !lamp | sebsebseb
[04:31] <cjae> jmarsden, so find /media/whatever -name *.pdf will work with a  mounted ntfs fs?
[04:32]  * seidos will stop abusing ubottu now
[04:32] <jmarsden> cjae: Yes, it doesn't care what type of fs it is searching, basically
[04:32] <cjae> jmarsden, ok  thanks
[04:32] <shane2peru> zebastian: I was processing videos, making videos, and no never did get it right
[04:32] <jmarsden> cjae: No problem.  Oh, should do -name "*.pdf"  -- quote the name if it has any wildcards in it.
[04:33] <shane2peru> zebastian: however everything boots up, and I monitored temps, and it ran a looooot cooler with those drivers installed
[04:33] <sebsebseb> seidos: heh
[04:33] <_MrsApple_> hi, is there a flashplayer that works with ubuntu? im not sure how to update mine or even how to find out where i need to update it.
[04:33] <sanchiro> I need help with email.. have a pesky 'relay not permitted' problem.. my exim4 server permits neither the spam to relay through, which is good, nor the email I want to receive, which is BAD.. ideas how to resolve this?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: sudo apt-get intstall flashplugin-installer
[04:33] <zebastian> shane2peru did the getting stuck mid movie cease?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: Flash can be a bit bad in  Ubuntu, because it's closed source
[04:33] <shane2peru> zebastian: you may have helped me with mine too, tomorrow I will install on mine
[04:33] <Out_Cold> !flash | _MrsApple_
[04:34] <webbb82> woulod the jaunty repos work for karmic koala
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: I don't watch movies on mine, but I'm sure that would be fixed, it is less processor intensive than processing videos
[04:34] <DigitalKiwi> sebsebseb: what is the excuse of gnash and the open ati drivers?
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: I watched the temps on mine, and they would start to climb with anything I did
[04:34] <DigitalKiwi> they are open but still suck ;P
[04:34] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: Gnash and  ATI  drivers aren't related I think
[04:34] <jmarsden> sanchiro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config    and reconfigure it the way you want
[04:34] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: hmm
[04:34] <shane2peru> zebastian: installing the drivers made it run cooler, I have read reports of movies doing the same thing
[04:35] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: not all opensource/freesoftware is amazing, because of lack of developers
[04:35] <sebsebseb> DigitalKiwi: also when it comes to drivers,  it's  more  about lack of manufacture support, when they aren't that good
[04:35] <Out_Cold> like with the ATI driver lol
[04:35] <Ieatbears> How do I detect drivers with Ubuntu?
[04:35] <DigitalKiwi> the 64 bit alpha/flash whatever flash driver has been really good to me, as has been nvidia
[04:35]  * Out_Cold uses nvidia and still has issues
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Out_Cold: Nivida's fault,  those drivers are closed source
[04:36] <Out_Cold> yea
[04:36] <zebastian> shane2peru what about changing my graphics card? is that possible? what is a better brand and what are usual prices? also how can i check if that's doable on my laptop?
[04:36] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: yes, but Firefox isn't even 64bit, so there is a breakdown there.
[04:36] <_MrsApple_> sebsebseb, im pretty sure we had it on our comp already.... how do i check the updates on here???
[04:36] <shane2peru> zebastian: I know nothing about that, I assume it is probably integrated, and therefore cannot be changed
[04:37] <meua> Hi! my external is correctly labeled "ehd-data" but display in gnome as "150 GB Media" and is mounted on /media/disk (this happened after a resize with gparted). How do i get the system respect label name for mount point and display name ? thx.
[04:37] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: there won't be any updates for Flash,  accept maybe a security update, but probably not
[04:37] <Out_Cold> _MrsApple_, just reinstall it and it will let you know if it's already installed or in need of updating
[04:37] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: how do i have firefox without 32 bit lib depends if it's not 64 bit? how come I can compile it? the answer is it is 64 bit ;p
[04:38] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: and then when  a proper later Flash version comes out, well  that will be in a later Ubuntu
[04:38] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: well, I could be wrong, but I don't think mozilla has released 64bit version
[04:38] <joako> When I turn on the computer it logs in automatically but then it asks me for a password to connect to the wifi. How do I connect to wifi w/o password?
[04:38] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: if you have the link to their 64bit firefox, I would love to see it.
[04:39] <_MrsApple_> sebsebseb, and what if my bf (its mainly his comp) decides not to switch to different version of ubuntu? can i delete an existing flash or whatev and just reinstall?
[04:40] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: you can get it from Adobe yeah
[04:40] <DigitalKiwi> http://wiki.mozilla-x86-64.com/Firefox:Download here it is for windows anyway
[04:40] <amites> any ideas why I would be denied permission to cd to a directory owned by a group my account is a member of?
[04:40] <_MrsApple_> thx sebsebseb !!!
[04:40] <MrPockets> Anyone use Synergy cross-platform with windows?
[04:40] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, my time is running out, you are going to have to open the terminal, type: cd Desktop
[04:40] <shane2peru> zebastian: then, type: chmod +x ati(tab)
[04:40] <zebastian> shane2peru, yes it's only a few secs remaining
[04:40] <zebastian> ok
[04:41] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: and  basically any OS should eventuaully be updated, or changed to some other OS that is supported by security updates, because they stop being supported
[04:41] <sebsebseb> _MrsApple_: no problem
[04:41] <shane2peru> zebastian: then type: sudo ./ati(tab)
[04:41] <meua> Hi! my external is correctly labeled "ehd-data" but display in gnome as "150 GB Media" and is mounted on /media/disk (this happened after a resize with gparted). How do i get the system respect label name for mount point and display name ? thx.
[04:42] <zebastian> shane2peru i got the following output
[04:42] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: right, but I don't think it exists for Linux, you can compile 32bit software on 64bit box without a problem
[04:42] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: wine is the same way, it maybe compiled for 64bit, but it still only processes 32bits at a time
[04:42] <zebastian> sudo ./ati-driver-installer-9-9.x86,x86_64.run: command not founod
[04:42] <zebastian> shane2peru
[04:42] <jmarsden> shane2peru:  ftp://us.archive.ubuntu.com:/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.5/firefox-3.5_3.5.3+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb  is 64bit firefox ...
[04:43] <amites> These are the steps I'm taking to add user to group and set directory permissions, any ideas why I would be denied access? http://pastebin.com/m2f2b58bf
[04:43] <shane2peru> zebastian: did you run: chmod +x ati(tab)
[04:43] <xeer> I have a Novatech NV-902W (Ralink RT2570 chipset) that worked flawlessly out of the box on 9.04. I reverted to 8.10 for gfx drivers and it's not recognized (Though it displays the name when issuing 'lsusb')
[04:43] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: fedora i know has both 32 bit and 64 bit firefoxes easily available
[04:43] <xeer> My question, what could I do to get the drivers from 9.04 (repositories?) to 8.10?
[04:43] <zebastian> shane2peru ok doing so now
[04:44] <zebastian> shane2peru uncompressing
[04:44] <shane2peru> zebastian: ok, you want to select install, and automatic installation
[04:44] <jmarsden> amites: Adding a group does not take effect right away.  Log out and back in and your user will be in that www-data group.
[04:44] <jmarsden> amites: But why are you doing that???
[04:44] <zebastian> shane2peru ok, and after that?
[04:45] <shane2peru> zebastian: it should pop up the gui to run through
[04:45] <zebastian> shane2peru yes, ok, once it's done downloading, i reboot adn check it out and if it doesnt work, reconfigure to default right?
[04:45] <zebastian> otherwise itmeans it worked
[04:45] <Guest49018> Ok, something's wrong with the desktop area. I'm on 8.04; Nautilus seems to be working fine, but I can't select or right-click anything on the desktop. My mouse is otherwise working fine.
[04:46] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: I'm working on 64bit Jaunty and too installed firefox, however it is only 32bit, because 64bit java didn't work with it
[04:46] <xeer> Anyone willing to look at my question?
[04:46] <shane2peru> zebastian: correct
[04:46] <amites> jmarsden: it's a server, thank you
[04:46] <zebastian> shane2peru what's cups?
[04:46] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: after googling, I found out there wasn't a 64bit Linux firefox
[04:46] <shane2peru> zebastian: cups is what communicates with your printer
[04:46] <jmarsden> amites: No problem.
[04:47] <coldboot|home> shane2peru: What version of Firefox? I think there are older ones.
[04:47] <DigitalKiwi> shane2peru: and after googling i found several instances of 64 bit linux firefox
[04:47] <shane2peru> coldboot|home: I had upgraded to the latest at that time, I since went back to what was in the repos
[04:47] <shane2peru> coldboot|home: I worked through ubuntuzilla, you can look on the forums, it is documented there
[04:47] <coldboot|home> shane2peru: I can't remember, but I do remember having 64-bit versions of Firefox a while ago. It could have been v2
[04:48] <zebastian> shane2peru, have three min?
[04:48] <coldboot|home> ah ok
[04:48] <Out_Cold> xeer you can add the repositories from intrepid to jaunty but it might break your system
[04:49] <shane2peru> DigitalKiwi: you have to separate the name form the actual product, it may say Firefox-3.5-amd64, because it is built to be installed on 64bit box, but doesn't mean it is truely 64bit
[04:49] <xeer> Out_Cold:  there is no networking; since the wireless is not functional at this point
[04:49] <Out_Cold> xeer another option is to build the driver yourself from the device vendors
[04:49] <zebastian> shane2peru, it seems to have worked...:O...does it mean now i can get compiz and play movies?
[04:49] <DigitalKiwi> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:<IP_ADDRESS>) Gecko/20090804 Firefox/3.5.2
[04:50] <DigitalKiwi> from help about
[04:50] <zebastian> shane2peru do i delete the file from the desktop now?
[04:50] <Guest49018> If I were to kill the nautilus process that runs by default, what would happen?
[04:50] <shane2peru> zebastian: you should be good to go!
[04:50] <shane2peru> zebastian: you can keep it or delete it, you may need it in the case of an update
[04:50] <xeer> Out_Cold:  yes that I what I am trying to do now but If I update the linux kernel wont I have to recompile each time?
[04:50] <Out_Cold> xeer, that also happens with wifi cards. i usually plug in with a wire, update, then disconnect and go wireless
[04:50] <shane2peru> bye all
[04:51] <zebastian> shane2peru I would like to thank you and all of the people involved in the channel
[04:51] <zebastian> for your great help, you have been all very kind
[04:51] <xeer> Out_Cold:  not all of us have the luxury of wired + wireless connections.
[04:51] <shane2peru> zebastian: glad to be of help
[04:51] <Out_Cold> not too sure
[04:51] <zebastian> this includes but is not limited to sebsebseb bro seidos
[04:51] <zebastian> ActionParsnip
[04:51] <zebastian> DigitalDarkness
[04:51] <Out_Cold> agreed.. but it's a quick fix
[04:51] <zebastian> thank you so much guys
[04:51] <sebsebseb> zebastian: no problem and good luck with ATI and that :)
[04:52]  * JaGG e
[04:52] <JaGG> -me e
[04:52] <harisund> When I boot my computer, I don't want a login screen. I want a command line login (run level 3 basically), and I want to be able to launch Gnome or whatever with a startx or equivalent instead of using the login manager. Any suggestions?
[04:52] <zebastian> brb
[04:53] <binskipy2u> hey guys, kinda simple question.. I'm using ubuntu 9.04 64bit.. does that mean everything in repos is 64bit?
[04:53] <binskipy2u> specially desktop enviornments.... i was thinking of checking out lxde
[04:53] <quartknee> I added medibuntu as a repository but I can't seem to access it with Synaptic Package manager to browse it. Is it listed under something other than medibuntu?
[04:53] <binskipy2u> as a fast desktop
[04:54] <xeer> Question, If I put 9.04 on a usb stick could I pull the built-in drivers onto my 8.10 system?
[04:56] <jmarsden> quartknee: medibuntu is the repository, the collection of packages.  What package do you want to install from it?
[04:57] <thiebaude> !medibuntu
[04:58] <zebaztian> sebsebseb, how can i look at the log of the conversation I just had with shane2peru
[04:59] <sebsebseb> zebaztian: your IRC client probably has a log, but also
[04:59] <sebsebseb> !log
[05:00] <xim_> for some reason evolution wont let me resize the side panel and its shrunk to where all the names of my folders just say ...  do i need to reinstall evolution?
[05:00] <jmarsden> zebaztian: You can also find the log files under ~/.xchat2/xchatlogs/ if you enabled logging in xchat
[05:01] <zebaztian> jmarsden, I just enabled it
[05:01] <OzFalcon> anyone know of a flowchart program that can export to-->from data?
[05:01] <jmarsden> zebaztian: OK, well next time you will know where to find the logs, at least :)
[05:02] <zebaztian> :)
[05:02] <mans28far> help : FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[05:03] <harisund> How do I figure out what event is generated when I press a key, so it can be modified using xmodmap or whatever? (I haev a hardware button on my tablet)
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> gah Shane2peru left
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> or is he shane2
[05:04] <mu3en> harisund use xev from a terminal
[05:04] <DigitalKiwi> oh that's not actualy a nick just spell checking >.>
[05:04] <harisund> mu3en, xev .. that's what I was looking for. sweet man thanks
[05:04] <jmarsden> OzFalcon: I'm not quite sure what you mean, but try xfig and see if it does what you want
[05:05] <heftig> DigitalKiwi: he left 13 minutes ago
[05:05] <DigitalKiwi> hehe
[05:05] <harisund> ok I just did apt-get install gnome-randr-applet .. how do I make it show up as an applet?
[05:05] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I just want to have the link data from the flow chart in  a text format (ie node 1 ---> node2) etc.
[05:05] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I'll check xifg.
[05:06] <jmarsden> OzFalcon: No, xfig is mroe of a drawing program that can export to a wide variety of formats... probably not what you are looking for.
[05:06] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, no. If I want to build a car port mabie ;-)
[05:07] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, I'm not sure what to call that format. So It's making it hard to find a prg
[05:08] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, Hmmm. Looking under "node listing"
[05:08] <DigitalKiwi> maybe dia?
[05:08] <DigitalKiwi> i don't know what you want exactly either :/
[05:08] <harisund> what's the difference between cpufreqd powernowd etc ?
[05:09] <DigitalKiwi> 9 extra/dia 0.97-2  DIAgram editor
[05:09] <garv> Hello there, ubuntu nooob looking for some help
[05:09] <kd8JHC> !ask | garv
[05:10] <OzFalcon> ok. I have a flowchart. But I want to export all the nodes So I can impliment the chart within a program. I just need to be able to export which nodes connect to which.
[05:10] <OzFalcon> looking at DIA
[05:10] <mans28far> ubuntu 8.1 broadcom 4328 wireless. can not modprobe ndiswrapper to get wireless up and running
[05:11] <xeer> How do I get build-essential for 8.10 when it doesn't have networking capabilities?
[05:11] <OzFalcon> manous, Sure there ain't drivers from 4328. Sure you should be using ndiswrapper?
[05:11] <xeer> I dont see any download available...
[05:11] <garv> Just installed ubuntu latest release, cannot connect to the interwebs. OS sees both of my network cards.
[05:11] <OzFalcon> manous, Sure there ain't drivers for 4328. Sure you should be using ndiswrapper?
[05:12] <xeer> Seems ubuntu "assumes" everyone has networking that wants to compile
[05:12] <mans28far> i'm sure. 4328 was not listed
[05:12] <OzFalcon> garv, PC on internal net?
[05:12] <OzFalcon> mans28far, moment
[05:12] <garv> both are onboard cards
[05:12] <harisund> xeer, not really. ubuntu just assumes most users won't need to compile anything to get a functional system, and that if someone wants a compiler, they will be able to figure out how to get it:)
[05:13] <mu3en> xeer, assuming you have some kind of internet somewhere, you can download and install the .debs manually from a usb?
[05:13] <manous> wow,what does it mean?
[05:14] <OzFalcon> mans28far, Have you tried the broadcom sta drivers (Just for a shot in the dark)?
[05:15] <OzFalcon> mans28far, I know it's not listed but.....
[05:15] <garv> its like the router isnt giving either of the cards IP addresses
[05:15] <OzFalcon> garv, Have you tried manualy setting ip?
[05:15] <mans28far> i'll give a try
[05:15] <OzFalcon> garv, what does ifconfig say?
[05:15] <[R]> my cd tray automatically retracts itself and i've read that it should have been fixed in 8.10, but i'm using 9.04... and no matter what i do i can't get it to work... any suggestions?
[05:15] <garv> <--super linux noob please give me a heads up on how to run ifconfig
[05:16] <lstarnes> garv: type it into a terminal
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, open a terminal
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, it should list eth0 and eth1
[05:16] <garv> yes it does
[05:16] <OzFalcon> garv, and lo
[05:17] <garv> yeah see all of that
[05:17] <OzFalcon> garv, and it says inet addr:????????????
[05:17] <cainram> Hello, all
[05:18] <garv> only relative thing i see to that, is inet6 addr:
[05:18] <jmarsden> !welcome cainram
[05:18] <garv> then it just looks like a registry netry
[05:18] <garv> entry*
[05:18] <lstarnes> garv: linux has no registry
[05:18] <DasEi> !hi | cainram
[05:18] <OzFalcon> garv, hmmmm
[05:18] <garv> well im just trying to tell you what im seeing but thanks
[05:18] <cainram> thanks, j
[05:19] <garv> i tried to manually set it, but it wouldnt let me "apply" the settings and I couldnt figure out what i was doing wrong
[05:19] <OzFalcon> garv, you are seeing the ip6 address
[05:19] <jmarsden> garv: Can you use pastebin to show us all what you are seeing? :)
[05:19] <OzFalcon> garv, moment......
[05:19] <jmarsden> !pastebin | garv
[05:19] <cainram> I'm having a little trouble with my Gnome desktop... any gurus?
[05:19] <kd8JHC> !ask | cainram
[05:19] <OzFalcon> jmarsden, Too advanced and not needed yet
[05:19] <DasEi> cainram: give us more details
[05:20] <OzFalcon> garv, hold tight
[05:20] <garv> sec I'm on my mac let me copy txt to a flash drive
[05:20] <garv> this is a FRESH install
[05:20] <garv> is there any sort of setup im not doing
[05:20] <garv> drivers maybe?
[05:20] <Mushrooms> Howdy all, I just recently bought a wireless network card, i already checked the compatibility with ubuntu already.. just wondering what i should do about various drivers / procedure to install hardware?
[05:20] <cainram> I mounted an ISO as a volume and all was well until I rebooted. Now I've got this thing on my desktop (not an actual file in my home/desktop) that says XYZ.volume. I can't get rid of it.
[05:20] <OzFalcon> garv, no. are both nics on the mobo
[05:21] <cainram> XYZ.iso.volume, sorry
[05:21] <[R]> Mushrooms: if it works then you dont need to do anything
[05:21] <garv> just wondering because my raid volume isnt showing up either
[05:21] <xeer> Is it possible to get intrepid 8.10 to read ext4?
[05:21] <OzFalcon> garv, one thing at a time
[05:21] <cainram> Running a current 9.04 install
[05:21] <Mushrooms> [R] : yeah well it has got like installation instructions that came with the box... but that's for windows, not linux.. and it does say in big red letters "STOP" run the installation cd first before connecting this device
[05:22] <Mushrooms> soo, this is why i came here looking for a second opinion
[05:22] <DasEi> cainram: did you try to remove the mountpoint of the farmer iso-file ?
[05:22] <cainram> no, I'm not sure what you mean...
[05:22] <kd8JHC> xeer: yes
[05:22] <OzFalcon> garv, Load system/admin/network tools.
[05:22] <kd8JHC> xeer: http://www.tuxmind.org/2009/01/06/ext4-su-ubuntu-810/
[05:23] <kd8JHC> whoops, sorry that's not in english
[05:23] <garv> loaded
[05:23] <xeer> kd8JHC:  hrm
[05:23] <DasEi> cainram: you said you mounted an iso; every fs is mounted to a directory...
[05:23] <OzFalcon> does it list ipv4 on the local (loopback)
[05:24] <garv> yes it does
[05:24] <garv> <IP_ADDRESS> as the ip
[05:24] <OzFalcon> garv, ok.
[05:24] <OzFalcon> garv, pull the list down. do you have eth0 and eth1
[05:24] <cainram> DasEi: i'm not seeing anything in /mnt or /media related to my problem, is this what you mean?
[05:25] <garv> yes
[05:25] <kd8JHC> xeer: if you have kernel 2.6.28 it should work in 8.10
[05:25] <garv> do you still want me to paste the ifconfig results in?
[05:25] <Mushrooms> sooo.. umm any comments on my problem?
[05:25] <OzFalcon> garv not yet
[05:25] <xeer> kd8JHC:  8.10 ships with 2.6.27
[05:25] <jMyles> [R]: Your last message read like a slogan.  ;-)
[05:26] <[R]> Mushrooms: thats for windows
[05:26] <[R]> Mushrooms: if it works in ubuntu... then you dont need to do anythign
[05:26] <kd8JHC> xeer: dk what to tell you then
[05:26] <cainram> How does Gnome Keep track of my pseudo-desktop stuff? is it a text or config file somewhere that I could manually edit?
[05:26] <OzFalcon> garv, go to a terminal
[05:26] <Mushrooms> [R]: alright imma give it a shot
[05:26] <[R]> cainram: psuedo-desktop?
[05:26] <DasEi> cainram: if you right-click the symbol on you disk > properties > volume , something given there ?
[05:26] <garv> okay
[05:26] <cainram> You know, like mounted volumes and launchers...
[05:26] <cainram> Hmm, one second
[05:26] <[R]> cainram: hal knows what is mounted
[05:27] <cainram> Hal?
[05:27] <cainram> I feel like more of a noob every day...
[05:27] <OzFalcon> garv, type: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[05:28] <cainram> location is listed as "x-nautilus-desktop:///"
[05:28] <cainram> It isn't acting like a mounted volume
[05:28] <garv> all in one line just like that?
[05:28] <lstarnes> garv: yes
[05:28] <OzFalcon> tep
[05:28] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type  mount  is there an entry like   /dev/loop0 on   then some path?
[05:28] <cainram> one sec
[05:29] <garv> says no such file or directory
[05:29] <DasEi> cainram: simply drag icon into trash ?
[05:29] <OzFalcon> garv, make sure no typos
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, Sure it's not there?
[05:30] <garv> sorry didnt see the space. auto lo... iface lo inet loopback
[05:30] <garv> was what i go
[05:30] <garv> got*
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, good.
[05:30] <cainram> dasei: Not working, but I'm a firm believer that the obvious is often overlooked. I've tried deleting it in all of the usual ways. Sometimes I get errors, sometimes nothing but the icon persists.
[05:30] <froduntu> howdie chanel
[05:30] <OzFalcon> garv, and entries for eth0 or eth1?
[05:31] <zebaztian> i'm having trouble with the desktop computer, i am trying to paste some files in etc udev rules.d i tried chmod 777 /etc/udev/rules.d and yet when i try to paste the files it tells me permission is denied
[05:31] <garv> no all i got was what i typed
[05:31] <OzFalcon> garv, ok
[05:31] <OzFalcon> garv, Thinking........................
[05:31] <cainram> dasei: the error I get on Delete is "The specified location is not supported"
[05:31] <mans28far> OZfal
[05:31] <mans28far> got it
[05:31] <mans28far> thanks
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, working or just got/compiled it?
[05:32] <mans28far> working
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, with STA?
[05:32] <mans28far> yup
[05:32] <OzFalcon> mans28far, Cool.
[05:33] <cainram> Ok, I'm going to reboot because my whole nautilus situation is misbehaving... Thanks for the help :) I'll try back later
[05:33] <OzFalcon> garv, Gawd. What happens when you type: sudo ifup eth0
[05:34] <kraut> moin
[05:34] <garv> ignoring unknown interface
[05:35] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. backtrack. when you type ifconfig
[05:35] <harisund> ok guys here's what I want to do. When I keep pressing the enter key I want a program to run.
[05:35] <harisund> anyway I can do it?
[05:35] <OzFalcon> garv, The device associated to ip6 was what?
[05:36] <OzFalcon> garv, did you say both nics were ONBOARD?
[05:36] <garv> sorry, i was trying to enter it manually when i typed that last command
[05:36] <garv> i switched it back to auto
[05:36] <froduntu> does anybody know a chanel about finding other chanels?
[05:36] <garv> and got ifup: interface eth0 already configured
[05:36] <garv> yes both nic's are onboard
[05:36] <froduntu> like a chanel directory chanel?
[05:37] <froduntu> sorry for posting my question here
[05:37] <harisund> Anybody? Any suggestions? I want to execute a program when I keep the "Enter" key pressed for more than 10 seconds
[05:37] <OzFalcon> garv. ok. So nics are seen. ip4 is available. But not being assign to nics......
[05:37] <garv> correct
[05:37] <OzFalcon> Gawd
[05:38] <OzFalcon> Thinking......
[05:38] <lstarnes> froduntu: /msg alis help list
[05:38] <garv> eth0 was the one that had inet6 listed
[05:38] <ice_cream> hi, i'm trying to use xmacro with ubuntu 9.04 but apparently i cant?
[05:38] <garv> eth1 did not
[05:38] <lstarnes> froduntu: there is also http://searchirc.com and http://irc.netsplit.de for online listings
[05:38] <ice_cream> "xmacro is broken with ubuntu 9.04, so if your running ubuntu 9.04 dont bother trying this, the how-to is good, but the esc key (or whatever key you assign) wont work, this is a known bug"
[05:38] <garv> eth0 is where its plugged in atm
[05:38] <ice_cream> would someone like to reply to this =D
[05:38] <froduntu> thanks
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, eth1 didn't have ip4 with it did it??
[05:39] <garv> no
[05:39] <garv> it has neither listed
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. ifdown eth0
[05:39] <OzFalcon> garv, sudo ifdown eth0
[05:40] <cainram> I'm back
[05:40] <garv> okay
[05:40] <cainram> the problem persists...
[05:40] <ice_cream> and will xmacro still have issues in 9.10 alpha..?
[05:40] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type  mount  is there an entry like   /dev/loop0 on   then some path?
[05:41] <ice_cream> i'm willing to try out an alpha os if that will solve it
[05:41] <cainram> I've tried that and don't see anything standing out...
[05:41] <cainram> can I paste that output here or is that rude?
[05:41] <legend2440> !paste
[05:41] <garv> says interface eth0 not configured
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like this. http://nopaste.com/p/azSyhc3ZC
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, type:  sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <garv> mine has line 1,2 thats it
[05:42] <OzFalcon> garv, and make some eth0 entries like mine.
[05:43] <cainram> http://paste.ubuntu.com/271334/
[05:43] <OzFalcon> garv, once these are in your interfaces files, type: sudo ifup eth0
[05:44] <garv> okay i have the changes typed out
[05:44] <garv> is there anysort of save command i need to type
[05:44] <OzFalcon> garv,save the file (cntrl-o)
[05:45] <zebaztian> what was the command to open up sources list? gksudo gedit /etc/sources.list ?
[05:45] <w0jrl> hello all
[05:45] <lstarnes> zebaztian: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:45] <harisund> Is there a command-line only interface to networkmanager?
[05:45] <legend2440> cainram: its not there. i would try remounting the iso with the same command you used the first time and then unmount it properly
[05:46] <DigitalKiwi> harisund: use wicd
[05:46] <harisund> DigitalKiwi, will check it out thanks :)
[05:46] <DigitalKiwi> which not only is better but has an ncurses interface, i don't think networkmanager does
[05:46] <harisund> DigitalKiwi, Just what i would need then
[05:47] <DigitalKiwi> <3 wicd
[05:47] <cainram> I tried that earlier... The craziest thing happens. As soon as I open the .iso with Archive Mounter all of my desktop Icons disappear and my cube deformation stops working.
[05:47] <garv> its doing a dhcpdiscover
[05:48] <garv> running lines of that right now
[05:48] <Reactor> How to deinstall packages via console?
[05:48] <OzFalcon> garv, type: ifconfig again to see if you have an ip4 address.
[05:48] <lstarnes> Reactor: sudo aptitude remove packagename
[05:48] <eboyjr> Reactor: sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[05:48] <Reactor> thx]
[05:49] <DigitalKiwi> which is better?
[05:49] <eboyjr> Reactor: I put the --purge there so that configuration files would be deleted as well if you are not going to be reinstalling it later and want the same configuration.
[05:49] <Reactor> ok thx ;)
[05:49] <cainram> I'm going to logout and back in...
[05:49] <garv> no but there's an extra eth0 line now
[05:49] <xeer> http://packages.ubunut.com/intrepid/dpkg-dev
[05:49] <xeer> notice the domain name?? IS THIS A SECURITY FLAW??
[05:49] <garv> let me recheck what i typed while doing the nano cmd
[05:50] <Heimark> I don't know if it was updates or installing Sun Java, but now I get crackling noise through my speakers and headset. Anyone have any suggestions?
[05:50] <xeer> shouldn't packages come from ubuntu.com and not "ubunut"?
[05:50] <garv> the lines i added
[05:50] <Mushrooms> i plugged my wireless card in... and then booted ubuntu.. I don't think that it is working
[05:50] <w0jrl> Does anyone know how to unmount a network directory in ubuntu netbook remix? When I was running ubuntu desktop, i was able to just right click the icon and pick unmount volume
[05:50] <garv> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:50] <lstarnes> xeer: it may be an official mirror
[05:50] <garv> then i gave it an ip and netmask
[05:50] <garv> and added auto eth0
[05:50] <garv> at the end
[05:51] <OzFalcon> garv, it should ignore the address (because it's getting via dhcp)
[05:51] <garv> should i delete the address and netmask lines?
[05:51] <Mushrooms> anyone available to give me some advice on my wireless network card?
[05:51] <OzFalcon> garv, no don't worry about them
[05:51] <cainram> i'm back
[05:51] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: get intel
[05:51] <evon> is there a program that will allow me to graphically monitor my local area network? I just want to be able to see who is connected to my network
[05:51] <maco> xeer: if you do a "whois ubunut.com" you'll see that ubunut.com IS actually owned by Canonical, the same company that backs Ubuntu
[05:52] <maco> xeer: i'd guess they bought it to protect people who make typos
[05:52] <k1en> hi, guys, in 'ifconfig', what is "Bcast", is that like the default gateway in windows?
[05:52] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: sorry? I don't understand what you mean
[05:52] <cainram> Again, when i try to check the properties of this icon I get the location as 'x-nautilus-desktop:///"
[05:52] <lstarnes> xeer: ubunut.com appears to point to ubuntu.com
[05:52] <cainram> what does this mean?
[05:52] <lstarnes> k1en: it's the LAN broadcast address
[05:52] <OzFalcon> garv, was ip4 listed in any ethX when you ran ifconfig again?
[05:52] <DigitalKiwi> intel network cards are very well supported
[05:52] <lstarnes> cainram: likely the desktop provided by nautilus
[05:53] <garv> yes
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: *sigh* i only wish someone told me that the otherday when i was asking which one i should buy
[05:53] <garv> in the new eth0 lines
[05:53] <k1en> lstarnes, erm, is that the same as gateway? how do i find the gateway?
[05:53] <cainram> is this accessible like a mount point, or a file or what?
[05:53] <legend2440> cainram: open terminal and type   cd Desktop  then type     ls -al   is the icon listed?
[05:53] <garv> but there were 2 entrys for eth0
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: someone re-directed me to a ubuntu page listing some hardware compatibilities
[05:53] <garv> one did not look right
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: no, it's different
[05:53] <OzFalcon> garv, can you ping that ip from the box your typing from ?
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: it is used for sending packets to every local host
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: then i cross check the one with good support
[05:53] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: plug it in.. now don't know what to do with it
[05:53] <lstarnes> k1en: the gateway transmits packets to the outside network
[05:53] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: well as long as you don't have broadcom you're probably set too
[05:54] <Mushrooms> i got a netgear
[05:54] <cainram> no.
[05:54] <k1en> lstarnes, i see,   thanks, so how do i find out the gateway address?
[05:54] <lstarnes> k1en: the broadcast usually ends in .255.  gateways often have .1, but it can be anything from 1 to 254
[05:54] <garv> no i cant
[05:54] <legend2440> cainram: can you see it on the Desktop?
[05:54] <garv> its a 169 ip
[05:54] <lstarnes> k1en: you will usually need to know it already or guess it
[05:54] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps)
[05:55] <garv> do i need to ifdown before i edit that config?
[05:55] <OzFalcon> garv, can that machine ping anything outbound?
[05:55] <OzFalcon> garv (google etc)
[05:55] <cainram> Yeah, that's the problem, I want to get it OFF of the desktop
[05:55] <cainram> I can't find it anywhere else though...
[05:55] <w0jrl> how do I unmount a network directory in ubuntu netbook remix? If someone tryed to answer me befor, i missed it
[05:55] <garv> no
[05:56] <Tanathos> Hola
[05:56] <garv> do i need to ifdown before i edit that config?
[05:56] <evon> is there a program that will allow me to graphically monitor my local area network? I just want to be able to see who is connected to my network...
[05:56] <lstarnes> garv: I don't think so
[05:56] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: well if you have the proper drivers then you should be able to connect via it with a network manager (wicd is a good option) if you don't you will have to find out which ones you need and install them
[05:56] <Tanathos> alguien en español
[05:56] <OzFalcon> garv, no. but you need to down then up again to make the iface reset
[05:56] <Tanathos> ???
[05:56] <lstarnes> !es | Tanathos
[05:56] <Tanathos> gracias
[05:57] <Tanathos> soy nuevo en los IRC
[05:57] <xmnt> evon, netstat
[05:57] <maco> !es | Tanathos
[05:57] <k1en> lstarnes, the reason i'm asking is that i have 2 machines, in one of them the gateway changed suddenly to <IP_ADDRESS>. in the other machine for some reason i cannot see anything in "network connection" (althpough i am connected to the internet)
[05:57] <k1en> so i want to check
[05:57] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: how do i check if i got the drivers? and that computer can not go on the internet at the moment.. any chance i can get it installed without a internet connection (via cd)
[05:57] <maco> Tanathos: a, lo siento
[05:57] <Tanathos> Por q???
[05:58] <harisund> When I minimize a window, why do I see a bunch of black rectangles? (some kind of animation) How do I turn that off?
[05:58] <lstarnes> k1en: what machine are you using as the gateway?
[05:58] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: i don't think it can connect at all, when i click on network manager it doesn't show a wireless connection
[05:58] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: only wired
[05:58] <maco> Tanathos: lstarnes y yo dice !es. solo lstarnes necesita.
[05:58] <maco> Tanathos: uhh...yo no hablo mucho español. /join #ubuntu-es para español
[05:58] <DigitalKiwi> does it have an ethernet port?
[05:58]  * maco gives up
[05:58] <k1en> lstarnes, these two machines are on 2 separtae networks, they are not connected, but both have started to be slugish lately
[05:58] <Tanathos> bien
[05:59] <k1en> lstarnes, so i figure its the same reason (gateway becoming <IP_ADDRESS>)
[05:59] <garv> its like my router isnt seeing this computer
[05:59] <DigitalKiwi> if so you can use that to install the drivers (as it sounds like you don't have them) or you could download them on another pc and transfer via usb, the install cd might have them, i dunno
[05:59] <garv> im gonna reboot the router... brb
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv, ok lets try manual config.
[06:00] <evon> xmnt: thanks but that shows me a whole bunch of other things I don't understatn. I just want to see who is connected to my wireless connection at home.
[06:00] <garv> okay.. want me to reboot the router first?
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv, visit here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[06:00] <lstarnes> k1en: iy may be something else
[06:00] <lstarnes> *it
[06:00] <lstarnes> k1en: do they use DHCP for configuration?
[06:00] <OzFalcon> garv,  no. If your mac? is working so should your other boxes.
[06:00] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: is there a way to issue a command to my ubuntu and ask for it to scan for new hardware?
[06:00] <garv> i run dd-wrt on my router you think that would make a difference?
[06:01] <k1en> lstarnes, yes
[06:01] <xmnt> evon, use your wireless router - usually it will be at the address <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <garv> yeah thats what i figured
[06:01] <evon> xmnt: i understand what you mean
[06:01] <lstarnes> k1en: then they should find the gateways automatically when they attempt dhcp setup
[06:01] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: i don't know
[06:01] <harisund> How do I install acrobat reader and corresponding Mozilla plugin?
[06:02] <OzFalcon> garv, visit that site and follow the "Configuring Static IP address for your network card" section
[06:02] <harisund> I want to see PDFs in my browser. Can I do that in Linux?
[06:02] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: oh lol :(
[06:02] <garv> yeah reading it now
[06:02] <garv> i dont need to setup dns?
[06:02] <DigitalKiwi> Mushrooms: someone else might know...I'm not that familiar with ubuntu or gnome
[06:02] <DigitalKiwi> or dpkg for that matter
[06:02] <k1en> lstarnes, you know that icon for networking, when i click edit configuration - there is nothing there. what do you call that ? i want to google the problem , but not sure aboput the key words
[06:02] <lstarnes> k1en: nm-applet
[06:03] <lstarnes> k1en: it's part of NetworkManager
[06:03] <k1en> lstarnes, great thanks
[06:03] <hanasaki> what is a good program for downlaod and management of podcasts?
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> is there an FTP service that allows you to create accounts that aren't "system accounts?"
[06:03] <Mushrooms> DigitalKiwi: lol.. ok
[06:03] <lstarnes> k1en: I usually try to avoid using it
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> perhaps accounts stored in a conf file or XML?
[06:03] <gOLDfeesh> !ftp
[06:03] <OzFalcon> garv, no
[06:03] <Mushrooms> Can someone please help me with my wireless network card installation i have a Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps) plugged in
[06:03] <hanasaki> Mushrooms:  whtas the issue
[06:03] <DigitalKiwi> hanasaki: gtkpod i believe can manage them, not sure what to use to download them, never used those
[06:04] <hanasaki> DigitalKiwi:  what do you download with?
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> maybe amarok
[06:04] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: i bought a new Netgear WG311 Wireless PCI Card 802.11G (54Mbps) today, because i dropped by the other day asking for advice on which one to buy
[06:04] <DigitalKiwi> i don't download podcasts
[06:04] <OzFalcon> garv, You DNS (Domain Name Server) is allocated to your net interface by the DHCP
[06:04] <gOLDfeesh> if you're on KDE use amarok if gnome exaile...
[06:04] <zebaztian> where can i increase or decrease the size of the icons on the desktop?
[06:04] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: i was told that i should check a compatibility with a ubuntu website, and then pick one that works from that list if i wanted it to plug and play
[06:04] <k1en> lstarnes, so what do you use ?
[06:04] <xmnt> gOLDfeesh, ftp is insecure and not at all a good way of sending or accepting files - sftp or a version control system is what you should be looking at
[06:05] <zebaztian> icon size
[06:05] <crdlb> hanasaki: gpodder isn't bad
[06:05] <lstarnes> k1en: I usually just let dhcp's dhclient handle it
[06:05] <OzFalcon> garv, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:05] <hanasaki> gOLDfeesh: gnome.. thanks
[06:05] <OzFalcon> garv, Might be helpful
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> xmnt,  well.. I'm just looking for a services to stream movies to my wii really.
[06:05] <OzFalcon> gpodder is great
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> garv, try sudo service networking restart
[06:05] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: so now i bought it, plugged it in, and... lol it doesn't seem to be registering with my ubuntu... so i dropped by to get some advice
[06:05] <gOLDfeesh> or what OzFalcon  said
[06:06] <garv> just tried it
[06:06] <garv> waiting for dhcp discover to end
[06:06] <garv> fingers crossed
[06:06] <xmnt> gOLDfeesh, vlc has excellent streaming - however I'm not to sure if wii will work w/ that
[06:06] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: it said very clearly on the box to put the installation CD in before installing the hardware. but i am guessing that's for windows, not linux
[06:07] <gOLDfeesh> xmnt,  I was never able to get the streaming to work on VLC
[06:07] <hanasaki> Mushrooms: lspci -vvv and look for it
[06:07] <garv> same outcome after restarting the server
[06:07] <garv> going to manually config
[06:07] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: so now it's like... help... TT^TT please?
[06:07] <Sertse> hi
[06:07] <OzFalcon> garv, ok check your dns server is same as on your mac and type that in.
[06:07] <Mushrooms> hanasaki: ok, hang on i need to run to the other computer since it's not connected to the net
[06:08] <hanasaki> Mushrooms:  use the "man" command and check it out
[06:08] <hanasaki> man lspci
[06:09] <hardan> Hello any arbian
[06:09] <cainram> so, I've got this Icon on my desktop left over from a previously mounted .ISO and I can't get rid of it.
[06:09] <cainram> I've tried just about everything.
[06:09] <cainram> HELP!
[06:10] <cainram> I've even gone into nautilus and found "x-nautilus-desktop:///" but I can't delete it from here either.
[06:10] <legend2440> cainram: is there an  x-nautilus-desktop:///  entry in  Places?
[06:11] <garv> what should i put in for the "network" and "broadcast" items
[06:11] <cainram> legend2440: uh, yeah, there is
[06:11] <garv> or just leave them blank?
[06:11] <cainram> I can't access it, though
[06:11] <OzFalcon> garv, hold on
[06:11] <cainram> "the specified location is not supported"
[06:11] <legend2440> cainram: oh ok nevermind you just said you cant delete it.
[06:13] <MrSchmo> anyone know how to fix random freeze/slowdown on video player backs. i installed ff3.5 and browser became slow too
[06:14] <ice_cream> is the record extension completely broken in xserver-xorg in jaunty?
[06:14] <OzFalcon> garv, what was last question?
[06:15] <OzFalcon> garv, Whats happening?
[06:16] <garv> nothing at the moment
[06:16] <garv> networking
[06:16] <garv> and broadcasting
[06:16] <garv> do i need values
[06:16] <garv> for those items or just not enter them?
[06:16] <cainram> what is the cli command for deleting a file? I could try that because I know the path to the file
[06:16] <OzFalcon> garv, ok
[06:16] <cainram> it's worth a shot
[06:16] <OzFalcon> garv, yes
[06:16] <lstarnes> cainram: rm
[06:17] <cainram> rm /path - thats it?
[06:17] <lstarnes> cainram: rm file
[06:17] <wally1337> hi hi.. just wondering.. I had an Xubuntu system running great with a 14 inch lcd monitor.. I plugged it into a viera tv and no X comes up.. just a black screen after the boot screen
[06:17] <wally1337> have*
[06:17] <OzFalcon> garv, just set broadcast to your local net eg. 192.168.255
[06:18] <cainram> so rm x-nautilus-desktop:///filename.iso.volume - that's it?
[06:18] <lstarnes> cainram: that won't work
[06:18] <lstarnes> cainram: you need an absolute filesystem path, not a url/uri like that
[06:18] <OzFalcon> garv, and set networking to your local network. ie <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:18] <OzFalcon> garv, just set broadcast to your local net eg. <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:18] <garv> okay
[06:18] <cainram> that's the only place I've been able to find the 'file'
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, one more thing
[06:19] <wally1337> so is there any way I can set my resolution other than editing my xorg.conf file?
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, the dns resolve.
[06:19] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[06:19] <mattwj2002> I could use some help
[06:19] <OzFalcon> garv, edit /etc/resolve.conf
[06:20] <mattwj2002> I am trying to get my tv tuner working
[06:20] <mattwj2002> it is a wintv-hvr-850
[06:20] <mattwj2002> hdtv works but not analog
[06:20] <OzFalcon> garv, and add entry "nameserver xx.xx.xx.xx"
[06:20] <Mushrooms> D: hanasaki disappeared >.<
[06:20] <mattwj2002> anyone know where I can get ppa packages for v4l-dvb?
[06:21] <garv>  man
[06:21] <OzFalcon> garv, xx.xx.xx.xx being either your router or your ISP DNS server.
[06:21] <cainram> I'm prepared to create another Administrative user, delete my old one and then create another with the old username... that should do it, right?
[06:21] <mattwj2002> !v4l-dvb
[06:21] <lstarnes> cainram: has restarting done anything?
[06:21] <cainram> I've restarted several times over the last hour.
[06:22] <cainram> I should also mention that trying to remount said ISO goofs up my compiz.
[06:22] <cainram> other isos mount and unmount without incident
[06:23] <owner_> Hello got a big problem.
[06:23] <owner_> My cups is broken
[06:23] <owner_> localhost:631 finds nothing
[06:23] <OzFalcon> garv, this is probable more helpfill that the other links i gave you https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/tcpip.html#tcpip-configuration
[06:23] <cainram> try  a bowl
[06:23] <cainram> Just kidding, sorry...
[06:23] <owner_> I tried reinstalling it.
[06:23] <owner_> Synaptic says it's there.
[06:24] <owner_> Tried to install the hplp-3.9.8.run HP driver
[06:24] <owner_> it says cups isn't installed
[06:24] <owner_> what do I do?
[06:24] <shrooms> so... now that hanasaki isn't here anymore, is there someone else that can help me with my wireless network card installation?
[06:25] <cainram> shrooms, what is the problem
[06:25] <owner_> #ubuntu-support maybe I can find someone there who can help me.
[06:25] <garv> im not understanding the network and broadcast values.. im sorry
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: i bought a wireless network card today, based on the recommendation of other people here to check out compatible wireless network cards in a ubuntu website
[06:26] <aleron6> can anybody help me movie player is muted
[06:26] <aleron6> i need help
[06:26] <aleron6> it mutes everything i try to watch
[06:26] <owner_> It says I'm banned from ubuntu-support :(
[06:26] <owner_> I need to print my documents so I can apply for a job.
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: i got one of those netgear WG311 ones
[06:26] <owner_> can someone help me with cups please?
[06:26] <garv> network would be my routers ip?
[06:26] <cainram> owner: try a different username...
[06:26] <lstarnes> owner_: have you installed cups?
[06:26] <shrooms> cainram: so now i plug it in, and boot up ubuntu... and i don't know what to do from here
[06:26] <garv> and broadcast would be my ip?
[06:26] <owner_> yes
[06:26] <lstarnes> garv: the network ends in .0
[06:27] <owner_> synaptic and apt-get say it's installed
[06:27] <garv> okay
[06:27] <cainram> shrooms: is this a usb or pci device
[06:27] <cainram> ?
[06:27] <owner_> but it's not running
[06:27] <garv> and broadcast?
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: i did a lspci -vvv and it shows it in that list
[06:27] <owner_> it can't be contacted at localhost:631
[06:27] <lstarnes> owner_: this may be useful:"
[06:27] <lstarnes> !cups | owner_
[06:27] <lstarnes> garv: ends in .255
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: pci
[06:27] <cainram> shrooms: have you ever used ndiswrapper?
[06:27] <lstarnes> garv: it depends on what your router is and what your netmask is
[06:27] <shrooms> cainram: not yet
[06:28] <owner_> My cups isn't running
[06:28] <garv> okay i got it
[06:28] <owner_> and it says it's fully installed
[06:28] <owner_> I've been to lots of sites
[06:28] <garv> i didnt realize he was telling me at first
[06:28] <xeer> I have gcc 4.3 installed. g++ wont install though complaining about gcc not being installed! what should I do??
[06:28] <lstarnes> owner_: try sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart
[06:28] <owner_> ok
[06:28] <subodh_> how do i install a webcam in ubuntu???can anyone point me to a documentation?
[06:28] <cainram> I suggest you look into it. If you can find the windows driver for your hardware then you can use it under linux with this utility
[06:29] <[R]> subodh_: you just plug it in
[06:29] <cainram> it is a little confusing at first but if you stick with it you should have some luck
[06:29] <shrooms> cainram: i just did a quick man for it... i can't find it..
[06:29] <owner_> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found
[06:29] <subodh_> [R]: what apps lets you view the video??
[06:29] <[R]> subodh_: i've used cheese
[06:29] <cainram> shrooms: look in the add/remove programs utility for Ubuntu
[06:30] <cainram> it's in the repository
[06:30] <lstarnes> owner_: is cupsys installed?
[06:30] <owner_> just installed it
[06:30] <xeer> I have gcc 4.3 installed. g++ wont install though complaining about gcc not being installed!
[06:30] <owner_> sudo apt-get install cupsys
[06:30] <owner_> it still spits out the same error
[06:30] <subodh_> [R]: thanks
[06:30] <owner_> invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found.
[06:30] <xmnt> owner_, updatedb   ... locate cupsys
[06:31] <lstarnes> owner_: what about cups?
[06:31] <lstarnes> owner_: the initscript may have changed between my version and yours
[06:31] <garv> the dns thing doesnt work
[06:31] <owner_> I know it's installed but I'll run apt-get
[06:31] <harisund> Can I view PDfs in my browser?
[06:31] <harisund> Acrobat plugin for mozilla available on Ubuntu?
[06:31] <shrooms> maybe i should just go back to windows ~.~
[06:31] <OzFalcon> garv, I was just out a sec. broadcast is just your local net work with 255 on the end.
[06:31] <owner_> cups is already the newest version.
[06:31] <cainram> shrooms: whats up?
[06:31] <xmnt> /etc/init.d/cups
[06:32] <shrooms> cainram: the other computer doesn't have an internet connection either.. so.. i am at a loss too i can get it off the repository on this computer, but i don't want to install it here, i want to install it there XD
[06:32] <xeer> shrooms:  go back to your windows. people that use linux have an understanding of drivers and how hardware to software works.
[06:32] <garv> okay i think i seriously messed something up
[06:33] <shrooms> xeer: well that's nice, and you're not helping newbies either. no need to put them down for this
[06:33] <mattwj2002> shrooms what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <garv> is there anyway to go back to default?
[06:33] <garv> or reset this somehow?
[06:33] <shrooms> xeer: people come here to get help, not to get dissed by people like you
[06:33] <cainram> shrooms: i"m not sure what xeer means but I think he/she's being a little rude... I want to help you work this out, i've been in stickier situations.
[06:34] <aleron6> does anybody here have the same problems i do
[06:34] <owner_> * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                 cupsd: Child exited with status 1!
[06:34] <garv> wait
[06:34] <zebaztian> nobody helping me over at kubuntu, i installed kubuntu desktop then i had to reboot, when i reboot, kwin crashed
[06:34] <garv> i did ficonfig
[06:34] <OzFalcon> garv, ok where are you at? can you ping that manual ip you set from the mac?
[06:34] <aleron6> with the movie player
[06:34] <owner_> FAIL!
[06:34] <garv> and under eth0
[06:34] <garv> i have
[06:34] <zebaztian> then when i rebooted kwin crashed and metacity took over and it rendered it impossible to do anything
[06:34] <owner_> I don't know why it's failing to start.
[06:34] <OzFalcon> garv, and you CAN ping it?
[06:34] <zebaztian> i don't know if i missed something after sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:34] <owner_> does anyone know why cups would fail to start?
[06:34] <zebaztian> also for some reason i can't enable desktop effects
[06:35] <garv> no
[06:35] <garv> but
[06:35] <garv> i didnt do the dns thing
[06:35] <owner_> I'm using a proxy but would that have to do with localhost:631 ? or my virtual box networking device?
[06:35] <cainram> shrooms: so let me get this straight, you can't get a connection on the computer that you are installing the wireless NIC into?
[06:35] <garv> where do i start with that
[06:35] <albn> I am trying to install components for winetricks, but it says packages do not exist. What am I doing wrong?
[06:35] <Tanathos> install compiz from repocitorios
[06:35] <mattwj2002> aleron6 what is the problem with the movie player?
[06:35] <albn> or with winetricks rather
[06:35] <aleron6> its muted
[06:35] <OzFalcon> garv, you should be able to ping it without the DNS operational. We NEED to be sure ip4 is working 1st
[06:36] <owner_> :(
[06:36] <shrooms> cainram: yes that's correct i used to have a phone socket right next to this computer, but it broke, so the router has been moved to the other side of the house, and ethernet cable will not reach
[06:36] <owner_> #Cups
[06:36] <OzFalcon> garv, you know how to ping from your mac?
[06:36] <xmnt> shrooms, move the computer
[06:36] <garv> yes
[06:36] <garv> it said no route to host
[06:36] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[06:36] <garv> host is down
[06:37] <shrooms> xmnt: i was hoping you wouldn't say that
[06:37] <Tanathos> zebaztian: install compiz from repocitorios
[06:37] <cainram> shrooms: ok, you have two options, hear me out
[06:37] <shrooms> cainram: i'm all ears
[06:37] <mattwj2002> aleron have you tried turning up the volume on the program?  if that doesn't work have you tried turning up the volume (or unmuting it on the mixer)
[06:37] <xmnt> shrooms, i hate doing it too ... i have a computer and the wireless card never works on a fresh install ... it's a pain - but it's the fastest way
[06:37] <OzFalcon> garv, ok. are these machines all connected via a common hub?
[06:38] <cainram> shrooms: the first is obvious... physically move the computer to a place where you can get a wired connection.
[06:38] <garv> they goto a hub, then to a router
[06:38] <shrooms> cainram: yep
[06:38] <garv> i see a mistake a made
[06:38] <garv> give me a min
[06:38] <cainram> shrooms: the other involves aptoncd, ever heard of it?
[06:38] <shrooms> cainram: getting it off a CD
[06:38] <OzFalcon> garv, any errors on the "NETWORK" entry or "ADDRESS" entry may cause that.
[06:39] <owner_> Well I posted in the cups room. Don't know if they will get back to me.
[06:39] <garv> whats the difference between the "vi" and "nano" cmd?
[06:39] <owner_> #kubuntu
[06:40] <OzFalcon> garv, what does ifconfig on your mac say? ie what is the ip4 address?
[06:40] <lstarnes> garv: they're different programs
[06:40] <OzFalcon> garv, nano is easier.
[06:40] <cainram> shrooms: yeah, install NDISWrapper on another ubuntu computer and then use aptoncd (also in the repository) to backup all of the computer's packages. You then burn a cd and put it in the non-connected computer and use synaptec to intsall ndiswrapper
[06:40] <cainram> I've done exactly this procedure for exactly this reason
[06:40] <cainram> and it worked like a charm
[06:40] <garv>  ifconfig
[06:40] <garv> lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> mtu 16384
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
[06:40] <garv> 	inet <IP_ADDRESS> netmask 0xff000000
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
[06:40] <garv> 	inet6 fd65:edae:352e:907:217:f2ff:fe99:1982 prefixlen 128
[06:40] <garv> gif0: flags=8010<POINTOPOINT,MULTICAST> mtu 1280
[06:41] <garv> stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
[06:41] <OzFalcon> Ahhh
[06:41] <garv> en1: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500
[06:41] <OzFalcon> no
[06:41] <Shamoun> can gparted resize ext3 / ext4 partitions?
[06:41] <garv> 	ether 00:17:f2:99:19:82
[06:41] <garv> 	media: autoselect (<unknown type>) status: inactive
[06:41] <garv> 	supported media: autoselect
[06:41] <shrooms> cainram: i see, fantastic
[06:41] <mattwj2002> !flood
[06:41] <Flannel> garv: Please use the pastebin in the future
[06:41] <garv> fw0: flags=8863<UP,BROADCAST,SMART,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 2030
[06:41] <garv> 	lladdr 00:17:f2:ff:fe:70:be:64
[06:41] <garv> 	media: autoselect <full-duplex> status: inactive
[06:41] <garv> 	supported media: autoselect <full-duplex>
[06:41] <lstarnes> garv: stop
[06:41] <cainram> Shrooms: is this something you can tackle without more help?
[06:41] <lstarnes> garv: please remember to use a pastebin
[06:41] <cainram> lstarnes: thank you!
[06:42] <shrooms> cainram: i am looking into it now
[06:43] <shrooms> cainram: thanks for you help I'm going to try that out now.
[06:43] <mattwj2002> shrooms word of advice
[06:43] <wally1337> yo how do i set the resolution for gnome from the cli?
[06:43] <shrooms> and xeer: who ever you are, i hope one day, you'll come across something you don't know, and someone else will come across and just put you down. it will be good fun to eat your own medicine
[06:43] <owner_> do you guys know who I could chat with that would know how to fix my cups problem.
[06:44] <shrooms> mattwj2002: yea? i'm listening
[06:44] <mattwj2002> with linux I recommend having a nice 50 foot ethernet cable around the house
[06:44] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:44] <cainram> shrooms, you'll have to use Add/Remove to add the CD as a software source. Once you've done that you can use synaptec to install packages from said cd. Just look in the bottom left corner and click the
[06:44] <cainram> "origin" button
[06:44] <cainram> the CD will appear there
[06:44] <shrooms> mattwj2002: lol i should go get one made yea XD
[06:44] <mattwj2002> :D
[06:44] <Celroc> owner_: May want to post your question here again, maybe someone who came in recently will know :-)
[06:44] <shrooms> cainram: yes i know how to add a CD as a repository so that part should be ok
[06:44] <legend2440> owner_: have you tried channel  ##cups
[06:44] <owner_> yes
[06:45] <owner_> no one has responded yet.
[06:45] <cainram> cool, you shouldn't have any problems
[06:45] <zebaztian> for some reason i can't use desktop effects
[06:45] <owner_> Ok I'll restate my problem.
[06:45] <shrooms> cainram yea :D thanks again for your help!
[06:45] <zebaztian> i tried to enable them and it said they cannot be enabled
[06:45] <xmnt> owner_, something tells me cups isn't a very active channel
[06:45] <cainram> Shrooms: any other questions contact me at davidramseycain at gmail.com
[06:45] <owner_> Hello I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. I need to print stuff to apply for a job. My CUPS is busted. It won't start. I reinstalled it and did everything. cupsys is installed. Synaptic and apt-get say it's there but when I try to install hplip-3.9.8 it tells me CUPS is not installed. Also localhost:631 gives me nothing. CUPS is dead. When I try to start it I get a exit status 1 fail.
[06:45] <cainram> Shrooms: good luck!
[06:45] <owner_> sudo invoke-rc.d cupsys restart  ... invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/cupsys not found.
[06:45] <shrooms> cainram: sweet thanks again!
[06:45] <cainram> no prob
[06:45] <cainram> peace out
[06:46] <Celroc> zebaztian: Pardon me, but we might need a bit more information. Are you using Compiz?
[06:46] <zebaztian> Celroc, how do i check?
[06:46] <Celroc> Pardon me, all, but does it seem like CUPS isn't installed for some reason on owner_'s computer?
[06:47] <owner_> lol :)
[06:47] <mattwj2002> man I wish I was good with cups
[06:47] <albn> hmm
[06:47] <mattwj2002> I have a HP printer those are easy
[06:47] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:47] <Celroc> zebaztian: Umm.... not sure. I'm not real good with Linux myself, yet.... sorry. Anyone know how to check?
[06:48] <owner_> Mine is an HP Deskjet F4280 All in one
[06:48] <nix-idioteque> mattwj2002: the trick is putting them to your lip before you tilt it
[06:48] <mattwj2002> you have hp?
[06:48] <mattwj2002> :D
[06:48] <owner_> the hplip-3.9.8.run package tried to install cups
[06:48] <owner_> and other packages
[06:48] <owner_> I think I made the mistake of running it as root once
[06:48] <Celroc> zebaztian: Although, if you didn't install it, you probably don't have it... I don't think it's a default package
[06:48] <owner_> and I'm not sure where it stuck all it's stuff
[06:48] <owner_> it told me running it as root would be a bad idea
[06:49] <owner_> so I didn't
[06:49] <mattwj2002> do you have hp-setup ?
[06:49] <owner_> but I can't help but think it stuck something somewhere as root
[06:49] <owner_> hp-setup?
[06:49] <mattwj2002> yeah
[06:49] <owner_> never heard of it but I'll install it
[06:49] <zebaztian> how can i check if i have compiz?
[06:49] <mattwj2002> yeah
[06:49] <mattwj2002> open up a console
[06:50] <musicfella> and type in compiz =D
[06:50] <legend2440> owner_: there is no /etc/init.d/cupsys file its   /etc/init.d/cups i think  did you browse to  /etc/init.d to check for the file?
[06:50] <mattwj2002> and see if you have a program called hp-setup
[06:51] <owner_> I ran that tool
[06:51] <owner_> too
[06:51] <mattwj2002> and it didn't work?
[06:51] <owner_> it gave me this: Usage: /etc/init.d/cups {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status}
[06:51] <owner_> So then I typed ./cups restart
[06:51] <owner_> and it went nuts
[06:52] <owner_> so I typed ./cups start
[06:52] <cainram> xeer: you still there?
[06:52] <mattwj2002> just for fun
[06:52] <owner_> I got the same error: * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                 cupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
[06:52] <mattwj2002> not sure if this will work but it is a guess
[06:52] <owner_> WOW
[06:52] <mattwj2002> try sudo apt-get install cups
[06:52] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:52] <wally1337> fuck you cunts are useless
[06:52] <owner_> that's a difrent error. before it was signal 1
[06:53] <cainram> wally1337: way to accept the COC...
[06:53] <lstarnes> owner_: If I remember correctly, signal 15 is a segmentation fault
[06:53] <owner_> cups is already the newest version.
[06:53] <mattwj2002> hmmm
[06:53] <owner_> as apt quotes it
[06:53] <owner_> :)
[06:53] <mattwj2002> ok
[06:53] <mattwj2002> :)
[06:53] <cainram> wally1337: clever leet name, by the way.
[06:53] <mattwj2002> !printers
[06:53] <Flannel> wally1337: Please watch your language.
[06:53] <legend2440> qwner what does   /etc/init.d/cups status   say?
[06:53] <owner_> is ubottu a bot?
[06:53] <prince_jammys> yes.
[06:54] <owner_> I keep getting those links from him
[06:54] <xmnt> no, midget
[06:54] <owner_> useless
[06:54] <mattwj2002> owner_ have you tried this page?
[06:54] <mattwj2002> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[06:54] <ZachK18> what up
[06:54] <mattwj2002> yeah he is I brought him up
[06:54] <mattwj2002> !beer
[06:54] <xmnt> midgets shouldn't drink beer
[06:54] <legend2440> !anything
[06:55] <Flannel> !offtopic
[06:55] <xmnt> Flannel, no-one's asking ?'s ... flooding the channel w/ offtopic is not only annoying it's pointless
[06:55] <Ulises> Hi
[06:55] <ZachK18> hi ulises
[06:55] <Flannel> xmnt: You're right, which is why people shouldn't be offtopic at all.
[06:56] <Ulises> hi ZachK18
[06:56] <owner_> I'll take a look
[06:56] <xmnt> Flannel, that makes no sense at all
[06:56] <cainram> so wally just sent me a friendly message letting me know that I'm a faggot jew. That's real nice. At least I got to help one person with their computing problem before I had to log of to avoid being abused.
[06:56] <ZachK18> exactly...if you're not on topic, don't join the channel
[06:56] <mattwj2002> okay sounds good
[06:56] <Ulises> I've got a problem with my Ubuntu
[06:56] <mattwj2002> sorry I wish I was more help :)
[06:56] <ZachK18> ok ulises
[06:56] <Ulises> It's not working, doesn't start up
[06:56] <mattwj2002> that page at least gives a few ideas
[06:56] <Flannel> cainram: #ubuntu-ops is the place you should go in the future if you're having problems with users.
[06:56] <Ulises> stops at the banner UBUNTU
[06:57] <owner_> E [14/Sep/2009:22:04:03 -0700] "/etc/cups/ssl/server.crt" is a bad symlink - No such file or directory
[06:57] <ZachK18> hmmm Ulises private chat me
[06:57] <mattwj2002> o.O
[06:57] <cainram> flannel: thanks for the advice but I don't have a problem. Wally does.
[06:57] <Flannel> cainram: Right, you should let the operators know in that channel, not this channel.
[06:57] <lstarnes> owner_: you may need to generate ssl certificates for it
[06:58] <cainram> will do
[06:58] <cainram> thanks
[07:01] <cainram> I'm having problems with an Icon on my gnome desktop that i can't seem to get rid of.
[07:02] <cainram> anyone know about x-nautilus-desktop:///
[07:02] <cainram> ?
[07:02] <lstarnes> cainram: see if anything appears from ls ~/Desktop
[07:03] <Painkilla05> hi walter
[07:03] <cainram> lstarnes: no joy
[07:03] <soreau> cainram: What icon?
[07:03] <lstarnes> cainram: try ls -lA ~/Desktop
[07:04] <shroom> cainram: lol physically moving the computer works
[07:04] <verb3k> I have a question:  I am on Windows XP and VirtualBox, and I have an ext3 partition. Can I make my ubuntu "guest" see this ext3 partition? thanks in advance
[07:04] <Painkilla05> hi wsmith
[07:04] <cainram> i mounted an ISO as a volume. Now i have this icon that is called XYZ.iso.volume
[07:04] <cainram> shroom: COOL, much easier!
[07:05] <cainram> shroom, sometimes aptoncd is a godsend, sometimes it is a nightmare... Much like Linux!
[07:05] <legend2440> cainram: browse to /home/yourusername/.nautilus/metafiles  is there an xml file there called   x-nautilus-desktop:%2F%2F%2F.xml  or something similar?  if so open it and see if that iso icon is listed in there
[07:05] <shroom> cainram: now just gotta get the ndsiwrapper thing, i googled for a solution it directed me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 i guess that's pretty close
[07:05] <owner_> I don't need ssl certificates lstarnes it's just not working.
[07:05] <cainram> shroom: don't get lost...
[07:06] <lstarnes> owner_: the error message that you posted earlier referrs to a missing ssl cert
[07:06] <shroom> cainram: lol i agree, when you get it working, it's a super well oiled machine
[07:06] <lstarnes> owner_: you may be able to configure cups to not use ssl
[07:06] <cainram> shroom: all you need is NDISwrapper and the windows device driver...
[07:06] <Ulises1> Hi
[07:06] <cainram> check the ndiswrapper documentation for details
[07:07] <shroom> cainram: yup i'm installing ndsiwrapper now
[07:07] <Ulises1> HJi all
[07:07] <Ulises1> I need some help with ubuntu
[07:07] <Ulises1> some technical help
[07:07] <chalcedony> Ulises1, it works best to say the problem
[07:07] <soreau> ! ask | Ulises1
[07:08] <Ulises1> the ubuntu doesn't start up
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> EX. Do I look fat in these pants?
[07:08] <xmnt> Ulises1, did you hit the power button?
[07:08] <chalcedony> Ulises1, what have you done so far, what screens do you see?
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> repeat if necessary, it does get busy here
[07:08] <cainram> legend2440: AhA! this is the kind of thing i was looking for! let me take a look!
[07:08] <nix-idioteque> Ulises1: install it...
[07:08] <Ulises1> The slogan UBUNTU
[07:09] <Ulises1> that's what i see
[07:09]  * Painkilla05 pokes wsmith
[07:09] <Ulises1> it stops at the process of startig up
[07:09] <Ulises1> freezes
[07:10] <soreau> Ulises1: What are the specs of the computer you're trying to run Ubuntu on?
[07:10] <owner_> lstarnes how would I configure cups to work without ssl?
[07:10] <Ulises1> all?
[07:10] <hermatize> ubbbey
[07:10] <lstarnes> owner_: I honestly don't know, sorry
[07:10] <owner_> :) thanks
[07:10] <poet> where do I get '/swrast_dri.so' from?
[07:10] <xmnt> Ulises1, right when it starts the ubuntu screen hit alt+f2 ... this will let you see what's starting up and also the error messages that are normally hidden
[07:10] <Ulises1> sorry
[07:11] <Ulises1> is a HP 530
[07:11] <Ulises1> a notebook
[07:11] <poet> A program I have is looking for /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so: and cant find it
[07:11] <Ulises1> yes the problen is located in init
[07:11] <soreau> poet: What are you trying to do?
[07:11] <lstarnes> owner_: it's probably somewhere in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[07:11] <Ulises1> and there is a kernel panic
[07:11] <Ulises1> banner
[07:11] <poet> soreau: use Xvfb
[07:11] <cainram> legend2440: Ok, it wasn't in the "desktop" xml but there is an xml file named for the folder from which I mounted the iso - if that makes sense... Should I delete this xml or edit it or what?
[07:11] <owner_> I'll look there
[07:11] <Ulises1> this is very difficult to explain this way
[07:11] <soreau> poet: What does 'glxinfo|grep renderer' say?
[07:12] <ujuntu> Hello
[07:12] <poet> soreau: glxinfo is not installed
[07:12] <mike_-> hello, i'm looking for some installation help, if anyone is available
[07:12] <cainram> legend2440: will it hurt to delete these xml files?
[07:13] <soreau> poet: Install mesa-utils
[07:13] <ujuntu> How do I find out which Glib version is installed on Ubuntu 8.04?
[07:13] <tasslehoff> I want to setup a network with WPA-PSK and TKIP encryption. Can't this be done from the network manager? Can't find any choices for it.
[07:13] <legend2440> cainram: ok lets try this.  open terminal and type  sudo updatedb  then when that finishes  type   locate <iconname>.volume or whatever it is and see if   locate can find the actual icon
[07:13] <owner_> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf says nothing about ssl only that it uses localhost:631
[07:14] <chahine> slt
[07:14] <poet> soerau: here is what I get when I try to run glxinfo when Xvfb is bound to the display
[07:14] <poet> soerau: http://paste.ubuntu.com/271346/
[07:14] <brijith> I  am trying to translate my python + gtk application .. I done everything as per http://www.learningpython.com/2006/12/03/translating-your-pythonpygtk-application/
[07:14] <cainram> legend, ok
[07:15] <cainram> legend, running
[07:15] <soreau> Ulises1: In here please.
[07:16] <brijith>  I  am trying to translate my python + gtk application .. I done everything as per http://www.learningpython.com/2006/12/03/translating-your-pythonpygtk-application/ But the translation in the glade file is not working. The messages that I set through the python code is getting translated
[07:16] <Thomas___> Yo
[07:16] <brijith> Please help meee
[07:16] <Keiffer> Hi. I have multiple user on my little poor Ubuntu and I want to do something to resume the downloads of Transmission, when users log in and out
[07:16] <soreau> Ulises1: You need to install mesa-utils and run 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[07:17] <ujuntu> How do I find out what glibc version I have installed?
[07:17] <clarkkent12880> ok i'm a relative n00b to ubuntu and linux in general but the 10keys that are on the right side of a standard keyboard is supposed to work like in plain old windows right? I hit num lock and i can type away to my hearts content entering numbers + - / * or . well my plain jane usb keyboard doesn't do that...
[07:17] <clarkkent12880> any ideas?
[07:17] <cainram> legend2440: what should I expect in the way of output?
[07:17] <soreau> Ulises: You need to install mesa-utils and run 'glxinfo|grep renderer'
[07:17] <cainram> I'm not getting anything usefull
[07:18] <cainram> shroom: how's it goin?
[07:18] <soreau> ! pm | Ulises
[07:18] <shroom> cainram: i am reading on how to use the ndiswrapper now
[07:18] <shroom> cainram: from google and other places.. needs an .inf file i think
[07:18] <cainram> shroom: cool, keep on truckin
[07:18] <legend2440> cainram: nothing with sudo updatedb that just  updates the database that locate uses  but hopefully   locate <iconname>.volume   wil give path to the icon
[07:18] <mike_-> i am having a problem with my monitor and ubuntu communicating in order to install, i get the "cannot display this video mode optimum resolution 1280x1024 60Hz"
[07:19] <mike_-> liveCD in safe graphics mode works, with 800x600 resolution only
[07:19] <Keiffer> clarkkent12880, maybe you set another keyboard layout?
[07:19] <poet> is there a package with Xorg gl drivers?
[07:19] <cainram> yeah, you are looking for an INI file, I've had situations where I've had to use Windows or Wine to extract the drivers to the point where I could direct NDISWrapper to an INI file, keep on keepin' on!!!
[07:19] <clarkkent12880> oops
[07:20] <clarkkent12880> i just went to 105 character layout and it works now
[07:20] <clarkkent12880> i'm so smart sometimes :D
[07:21] <cainram> legend2440, no joy in mudville.
[07:21]  * clarkkent12880 is feeling smart
[07:21] <Keiffer> how do i do this in transmission: Huh? I want when user X is downloading littlekitty.avi and logs out and the user Y logs in, littlekitty.avi is resumed
[07:21] <cainram> Legend2440: let's get back to those xml files. Can I just delete those with reckless abandon? I have a gut feeling that the problem is there somewhere...
[07:22] <poet> anyone have any idea where /usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so comes from?
[07:22] <mathijs> Hi all, I have some packages I make some changes to and rebuild them to .debs. I keep the .deb files in a directory and put a deb file: line in my sources.list. Now, I would like apt to prefer my packages over the default ones (/apt/preferences) but how can I do this? Do I need to set a Origin: line in control? or is there a better way?
[07:22] <legend2440> cainram: it is safe to delete that file. it will be recreated next time you reboot. not sure if it will help though. or you could rename it by puttinng  .bak to the end of it
[07:22] <cainram> legend2440: ah, good idea. I'll try.
[07:23]  * clarkkent12880 thinks they should write a book called "Linux for the windows refugee"
[07:24] <shroom> cainram: ok i think i am ready. i just browsed the cd though.. i can only find one .inf file... i wonder if that would be the one i choose
[07:24] <cainram> what is the path...
[07:24] <SharpRain> Lol hi
[07:24] <bod> hi, what is the name of the live usb creator program? e.g. what would I type to run it from a terminal
[07:25] <Guest97666> hallo
[07:25] <Ulises> soreau, I guess this has nothing to do with the NVIDIA driver, and that the proposal is hasty
[07:25] <shroom> cainram: yeah that's the thing, the path looks too dodgy for me. it's called autorun.inf
[07:25] <dab_> Can anyone help me getting tmsnc up and running? /q
[07:25] <shroom> in the top directory within the cd
[07:25] <cainram> no
[07:25] <soreau> Ulises: Let's start over. What's the problem?
[07:25] <shroom> cainram: there's a /bin/driver folder but it has no .inf nor .sys file
[07:26] <cainram> shroom: are you using a cd for the driver or what?
[07:26] <shroom> cainram: has an .exe + a .tbl
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (05:59:58) Ulises: I've an HP530 with Hardy Heron Ubuntu installed on it
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:00:19) Ulises: I've been using ir since december 2008 without problems
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:00:42) Ulises: recently i tryed to install a video editor
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:19) Ulises: and it started showing problems on starting up
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:29) Ulises: ...
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:01:57) Ulises: The system used to ask me for a fsck
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:12) Ulises: but a manual fsck an I jumped it a lot of times
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:27) Ulises: till it become forced
[07:26] <shroom> cainram: cd that came with the box
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:30) Ulises: so I did it and
[07:26] <Ulises> (06:15:06) Ulises: (06:02:42) Ulises: after that couldn't star up normally
[07:26] <Flannel> eviljussi01: /at Ulises 1
[07:26] <Flannel> Ulises: Please don't paste like that in the future.  That entire thing could be one single line.
[07:27] <xeer> I'm trying to install build-essential 11.4 but it depends on g++. even though I have gcc installed g++ keeps saying it depends on gcc. 'gcc -v' returns 4.3.2
[07:27] <cainram> shroom: ok, the .exe may or may not be a self extracting archive. these can be opened with ubuntu. Try right clicking on the .exe and opening it with the archive manager...
[07:28] <shroom> cainram: alright, i'm trying to view the contents now with an archive manager
[07:28] <Sunny007> Morning Guz and Girlz and Otherz :)
[07:28] <cainram> shroom: i'm dealing with my own mess... I'll log back in and check on you in a few minutes, ok?
[07:28] <Bodsda> found it, for anyone who is interested, the program name is 'usb-creator'
[07:29] <cainram> I need a reboot...
[07:29] <shroom> cainram: ok
[07:29] <shroom> cainram: no problem
[07:29] <cainram> shroom: hang in there
[07:29] <iceblock> ello everyone, how ya all been
[07:29] <Ulises> ok
[07:30] <Ulises> so it showed an error
[07:30] <Ulises> when I try to start at "recovery mode"
[07:30] <Ulises> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/271354/
[07:30] <poet> any idea why apt-get isn't finding the package 'dbus-python' ?
[07:30] <Ulises> sorry for the pasting at the channel
[07:31] <Ulises> Flannel, got it
[07:32] <Bodsda> !info dbus-python
[07:32] <Bodsda> poet: ^^
[07:32] <poet> yeah looks like its python-dbus
[07:32] <Bodsda> !info python-dbus
[07:32] <Bodsda> poet: yep
[07:32] <poet> my bad
[07:32] <mintux> last night when I got ls /dev/video* I had /dev/video0 /dev/video1 but now I have just /dev/video1 and my webcam doesn't work . I got lsusb and I see mywebcam there 041e:4012 Creative Technology, Ltd PC-CAM350  so what can I do and why does it happen ?
[07:32] <Bodsda> no worries :)
[07:33] <iceblock> anyone going snowboarding?
[07:33] <Ulises> not my lucky day, your's faithfull.
[07:33] <cainram> legend2440: I deleted all of the relevant xml files and the desktop icon still persists....
[07:33] <Bodsda> !ot | iceblock
[07:33] <soreau> iceblock: If it's on your dime, yes
[07:33] <cainram> shrooms: i'm back
[07:34] <iceblock> its not that off topic cause im ontop of Mt Ruapehu in New Zealand snow boarding...yeeeaa!
[07:35] <iceblock> anyone know who to convert .ppm to jpg?
[07:35] <iceblock> how to convert ppm to jpg?
[07:35] <xeer> I'm trying to install build-essential 11.4 but it depends on g++. even though I have gcc installed g++ keeps saying it depends on gcc. 'gcc -v' returns 4.3.2
[07:35] <shroom> cainram: wb :)
[07:35] <xeer> iceblock:  why not just use google to find out
[07:36] <shroom> xeer: i could almost use your response for your own question.
[07:36] <cainram> shroom: ha!
[07:37] <shroom> cainram: *shrugs* XD
[07:37] <xeer> shroom:  yes it's confusing. I installed gcc with dpkg, which displays no errors and I have /usr/bin/gcc-4.3 though my attempts to install g++ fail stating gcc is not installed
[07:38] <clarkkent12880> ok ok another stupid question time... whats a good and secure ftp server for ubuntu?
[07:38] <kwork> clarkkent12880, vsftpd
[07:38] <cainram> He's trashing you for using windows drivers when you have no other choice and yet he's suggesting you use freedom-hating, proprietary search MONSTER like Google...
[07:38] <Flannel> clarkkent12880: sftp?  openssh-server
[07:39] <sarthor> Hi, Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop i386, Matrox G450 Dual head VGA card, i have same Display on 2 monitors, how to use double monitors, HELP
[07:39] <shroom> cainram: lol
[07:39] <xeer> cainram:  proprietary search monster??
[07:39] <clarkkent12880> thanx
[07:40] <brandon> guys i need a line of code that will allow the program i making in gambas see the serial number of both the cpu and bios any ideas?
[07:40] <cainram> xeer: ok, tell yah what, let's have a truce and ignore each other - i like to wind people up and i don't want to do that here and now.
[07:41] <shroom> cainram: may i send you a pm?
[07:41] <cainram> shroom, sure
[07:41] <shroom> ok
[07:42] <legend2440> cainram: is that icon listed in    /home/yourusername/.gconf/apps/nautilus/desktop/%gconf.xml  ?
[07:42] <AZ> any tutorial for ffmpeg flvtool mplayer for ubuntu 8.1 ??
[07:43] <Flannel> Myrtti: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status.bak && sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:43] <Myrtti> Flannel: thanks, I was just reading that myself
[07:43] <Flannel> Myrtti: (and then sudo apt-get update)
[07:43] <Poul|Raider> anyone care to tell me what i would put in my ssh config file to do the following connection ?  : ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:44] <poet> where is the dbus log?
[07:48] <cainram> legend2440: i'm looking around in this area but not finding any references to this particular 'file'
[07:49] <legend2440> cainram: no .gconf directory? its a hidden folder
[07:50] <Poul|Raider> Need a bit help creating ssh config file for the following connection ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:50] <cainram> legend2440: no, I found the directory and am poking around... I'm just not finding any xml files with references to the .volume file in question
[07:50] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[07:50] <mattwj2002> what is the bug with the intel graphics in ubuntu 9.04?
[07:51] <fez> vaguer please
[07:51] <mattwj2002> could it cause a flickering display?
[07:51] <mattwj2002> I have an Eee Pc 900
[07:51] <whit2spring> 1
[07:53] <legend2440> cainram: oh ok. i'm running out of ideas and google hasnt been much help for this particular problem
[07:55] <cainram> hey!
[07:55] <cainram> legend!
[07:55] <cainram> I Finally found an xml file in .nautilus that had a reference to my issue!
[07:55] <cainram> I'm gonna logout and let you know what happened
[07:55] <legend2440> ok
[07:56] <cainram> legend2440: i deleted the .xml file. we'll see...
[07:59] <cainram> legend2440: dagnabbit!
[07:59] <cainram> Still there!
[08:03] <legend2440> cainram: if you open nautilus is there  an    x-nautilus-desktop  entry in the left side pane?  if so can you right click it and choose  unmount?
[08:04] <mandiri> SARITO
[08:04] <sree> Enter text here...hello
[08:04] <sree> helo
[08:05] <Gobbel> hello
[08:05] <sree> is anyone there
[08:05] <Gobbel> jep me:)
[08:07] <fixxxer> Hi can someone tel me whats the ubuntuone channel need to ask some questions?
[08:07] <fixxxer> or where's ubuntuone channel
[08:07] <legend2440> !karmic | fixxxer
[08:07] <fixxxer> cool
[08:08] <fixxxer> thanks
[08:08] <lat_> My printer driver is suddenly messed up, and can print only graphics and links. Text does not print. Anyone know a cure?
[08:10] <Indian`> black carriage
[08:11] <Poul|Raider> Anyone here happen to know a resolution for maple13 and plots just showing up as black plots, assuming its something due to hardware acceleration?
[08:14] <legend2440> cainram: any luck?
[08:14] <cainram> legend: not yet
[08:15] <legend2440> cainram: i have one more idea
[08:15] <cainram> I'm currently installing tracker to hunt down any references in any rogue xml files.
[08:15] <cainram> Thank you so much
[08:16] <legend2440> cainram: in terminal type   gksudo nautilus  and browse to  /root/Desktop  is the icon listed there?
[08:16] <cainram> nope
[08:17] <legend2440> cainram: ok
[08:17] <cainram> thanks anyway...
[08:17] <cainram> shroom: you still there
[08:17] <B9> hello I have two files and i need to get them into my usr/bin but I cannot copy or move them there, how can i move two files from my download folder to my usr/bin?
[08:18] <cainram> b9 try opening a terminal and typing sudo nautilus
[08:18] <cainram> be careful!
[08:18] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | cainram
[08:19] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:19] <cainram> thanks for the advice, i didn't know
[08:20] <B9> cainram: i have done that, what do i do now? what did nautilus do?
[08:21] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to   rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:21] <cainram> b9 if you can't copy to a folder because of permissions issues then you need to assume administrative privileges. you can start a program as an administrator, or root, by typing gksudo or sudo at the prompt.
[08:22] <glick> hi
[08:22] <eraggo> hi glick
[08:22] <cainram> opening your file browser as root allows you to cut copy and paste with reckless abandon. For better or worse.
[08:22] <glick> excuse me, in compbiz, is there anyway i can have applications show up on the panel regardless which screen i am currently on, so if i click on it, the cube will automatically rotate to that side?
[08:22] <glick> right now, it only shows the applications for that side of the cube
[08:23] <iceman_32> what would I type @terminal to find out version of nvidia I am runnig .
[08:23] <B9> cainram: with the sudo nautilus i have been able to paste them where i wanted them, thanx
[08:25] <Wyzir> Dicsoseg testverek
[08:25] <glick> does anyone know how to set that up?
[08:25] <glick> that functionality
[08:25] <glick> ?
[08:26] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:26] <mans28far> ?
[08:26] <Wyzir> automatix2 does not work with jaunty seagull shit?
[08:29] <ZachK18> what up
[08:29] <Poul|Raider> Need a bit help creating ssh config file for the following connection ssh -C -L 5900:bohr.gbar.dtu.dk:5955<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:30] <mans28far> ub 8.1 everytime on startup have to rmmod wl ssb, then depmod -a, modprobe wl to get wireless to work.    been trying to find a way to Not have to do this everytime. can anyone help
[08:30] <L1nUX1z3R> what's the ubuntu learning channel called?
[08:32] <vigo> Thank you.
[08:33] <fhfhs> !ru
[08:33] <kwork> !ee
[08:33] <whit2spring> !
[08:34] <Reactor> whit2spring: ?
[08:34] <whit2spring> nothing
[08:34] <Reactor> whit2spring: ok ;)
[08:44] <Myrtti> !hi
[08:47] <onats> hi, i'm having issues with my scanner, i can't get it to work using xsane
[08:48] <onats> the error message when i start xsane image scanner is:
[08:48] <Myrtti> onats: please use pastebin
[08:48] <Myrtti> !pastebin | onats
[08:48] <onats> Failed to open device 'v4l:/dev/video0', Invalid argument
[08:48] <Myrtti> onats: it's detecting your webcam
[08:48] <matt098> hello  how is every one today ????
[08:48] <onats> its a one liner, so i dont think I need to use pastebin
[08:49] <onats> Myrtti, my scanner is built in to a network printer. how do i make it use that?
[08:50] <Myrtti> if it's connected to yours only via network, then you can't really, unless it shares the scanner to the network as well
[08:50] <matt098> i have a problem my new installation if Ubuntu Janty i dont have sound sofar i think that im missing a library file called "lib32asound2-plugins"
[08:50] <xxex> having some problems with grub.. now i can boot only in windows, is there a way to repair it using live cd?
[08:51] <onats> i was actually able to make this work before
[08:51] <onats> but for some reason, after updates, it now fails
[08:52] <matt098> is there anyone that can help me with a sound issue on ubuntu janty?
[08:54] <matt098> ~~ Is there anyone that can give me a hand with the sound issues that im havingafter installing ubuntu ?????
[08:55] <v0lZy> hello people
[08:55] <v0lZy> i need som ehelp
[08:55] <matt098> hi
[08:55] <v0lZy> for some reason i cant use color codes in the terminal
[08:56] <v0lZy> if i do echo -e something
[08:56] <v0lZy> it echos like
[08:56] <matt098> srry i cant help u im still a new at ubuntu
[08:56] <matt098> hay did u have a sound issue when u installed janty?
[08:56] <strange> hey guys is there a terminal command to search in a directory for files with another extension than the 3 i specify?
[08:56] <thrope> hello - can anyone recommend/point me to a a usb wireless key that will definitely work out of the box with recent ubuntu? dont have time to research and had lots of trouble in the past - its for a friend I just set up with ubuntu so I want it to work smooth. (in the UK)
[08:56] <v0lZy> 3 i speficy?
[08:57] <thrope> in the past I even researched carefully - but got screwed anyway becuase they had changed the chipset without changing the model number
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> !hcl | thrope
[08:57] <jpds> strange: find . -name .extension
[08:57] <strange> ".mp3 .jpg .m3u"
[08:57] <strange> if its not one of those it should return
[08:57] <jpds> strange: find . -name .mp3 -name .jpg -name .m3u
[08:57] <v0lZy> u can use find
[08:57] <v0lZy> or locate
[08:57] <matt098> hay guys can ne one help me ?
[08:58] <v0lZy> matt: i havent installed jaunty
[08:58] <thrope> ActionParsnip1: yeah - I can spend an hour going through those lists, and cross referencing the supported chipset to usb cards I can find online, but I was hoping someone here might have one they use and can could point me to to save me the time
[08:58] <matt098> np
[08:58] <kd8JHC> !ask | matt098
[08:58] <v0lZy> thrope: usb wirless dongle?
[08:58] <v0lZy> thrope: or usb ethernet?
[08:58] <thrope> v0lZy: yep - usb wireless
[08:58] <matt098> who here has installed ubuntu 9.04
[08:58] <thrope> v0lZy: in the UK - if anyone can point me to any one online that I can buy and it will work that would be great
[08:58] <v0lZy> hm....
[08:59] <zaggynl> thrope: AWUS036H
[08:59] <v0lZy> have a look at... sec
[08:59] <thrope> perhaps its impossible - I have to admit I have never seen one working with linux
[08:59] <zaggynl> tad expensive and not too new but works out of the box
[08:59] <strange> jpds and v0lZy what i want is to find the files that DONT match those 3 extensions
[08:59] <Myrtti> thrope: a-link WL54USB
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: chipsets are easy to find what is good. Try to get Intel based ones or old atheros work great :D
[08:59] <Myrtti> thrope: has worked since dapper or so
[08:59] <thrope> zaggynl: hi thanks - it is too expensive though (more than the computer
[08:59] <v0lZy> damnit, its some no name brand
[08:59] <zaggynl> whoa, more expensive than the pc eh
[09:00] <v0lZy> strange: man find
[09:00] <thrope> ActionParsnip1: the trouble is working out which chipset the usb has - ive been burned in the past receving a different chipset to what was on the website even though the model nuber hadnt changed
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: the chips used in usb wifi can vary from country to country so you are riight to mention UK. I can suggest you checl out http://www.efficientpc.co.uk (York). They may be able to steer you right
[09:00] <thrope> Myrtti: can't find the a link in the UK
[09:00] <ActionParsnip1> thrope: most use garbage broadcom cos they are cheap
[09:01] <Myrtti> thrope: anyway, for reference: http://www.a-link.com/uk/WL54USB.html?id=BRyGuhJj
[09:01] <matt098> hay guys has ne one here had nany issues with sound drivers on janty ?
[09:01] <kc> hi
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: zero
[09:01] <EricFisher> Hi, if i want ask a question about apt-get? which channel is appropriate? Thanks.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: why'd you ask
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> EricFisher: here, ask away
[09:01] <kc> anyone have a good setup for home servr?
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> !anyone | kc
[09:01] <v0lZy> kc as in?
[09:02] <coz_> kc,  hold on I think I have a few links for that
[09:02] <kc> i installed ubuntu 8.04
[09:02] <v0lZy> i have 8.04
[09:02] <kc> i installed all the applications
[09:02] <v0lZy> as home and as production servers
[09:02] <kc> but i can't make the samba run correctly
[09:02] <coz_> kc,  here is one  http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn_an_old_Computer_into_a_web_server/
[09:02] <v0lZy> ah
[09:02] <v0lZy> ill help you
[09:03] <coz_> kc,  but the web admin is now 1.480
[09:03] <enav> holaaaa
[09:03] <coz_> kc,  so just change those numbers for the wget
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> kc: sudo apt-get install samba
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> kc: sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[09:04] <EricFisher> ActionParsnip1, after I use apt-get to install a deb package, where can i find the source package in my machine?
[09:04] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: this is a fresh install of ubuntu from the cd  and ive done all of the updates and i have no sound i think im missing a library called    lib32asound2-plugins
[09:04] <hellotello> hi all
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> kc: then run: sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf and add something like this: http://pastebin.com/f6f9dcdd5   The bottom bit is all you need to define a share, obviously change the user names asyou wish
[09:05] <hellotello> i have downloaded a 7 gb iso file (a game), how can i burn this iso on 2 dvds?
[09:05] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: all i see is the 64 bit version and this is a 32 bit o version of ubuntu
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> kc: i share the entire ~ on my file server to be used on all systems
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> EricFisher: i dont use source, tr asking the channel
[09:06] <matt098> Actionparsnip1: this is want i was following to try and fix my sound issue but no luck     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> kc: once editted, save the file (ctrl+x, press y, press enter)
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> matt098: i have no idea. Ask the channel instead
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kc: then run: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart and you have a share :D
[09:07] <qwqwqqwqw> i try to chroot direectory and i get "chroot: cannot change root directory to edit: No such file or directory", what to do
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> kc: you can also ssh in, edit the file with nano, restart the service and *poof* another share
[09:07] <EricFisher> too many people here, who knows how to find the source package after install the deb?
[09:07] <qwqwqqwqw> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[09:08] <AlHafoudh> hi
[09:09] <AlHafoudh> is it possible to moount Netware NSS volumes under Ubuntu?
[09:09] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, you'll get that if there is no /<dir you chroot to>/bin/bash
[09:09] <MrSchmo> anyone know what is cause my totem player to play video sluggishly? it wasnt like this until i row my to ff3.0
[09:09] <matt098> hay guys i have a sound issue with my new instillation of Ubuntu Janty ive followed this guild to try and fix it but as of yot no luck " http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 ".  i think im missing the library called " lib32asound2-plugins " any help would be much appreciated.
[09:10] <petravera> Question: Whenever I connect online without a browser, I notice that my firewall is constantly being pinged by proxybots. I am wondering, since I am on a dynamic connection if there is a file in Ubuntu which gives away IP location, or if this is some sort of exploit?
[09:10] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: http://ceitl.zanestate.edu/blog/archives/2005/04/how-to-mount-novell-shares-in-ubuntu/
[09:10] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: it exists, i try to chroot /mnt and exists, i am running from live CD, try to repair grub
[09:11] <MrSchmo> i ran totem player in terminal and msg"/var/lib/python-support/python2.6/gdata/tlslite/utils/cryptomath.py:9: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead
[09:11] <MrSchmo>   import sha
[09:11] <MrSchmo> " what does it mean?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> MrSchmo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad0.10/+bug/420071
[09:12] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: i mean physical disks, not network shares
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: i found that via websearching, let me have another go
[09:13] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, That is odd, maybe you really dont have bash in there? Have you tried /bin/sh?
[09:13] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: i googled 15 hours yesterday :( i need someone who just had that experience
[09:13] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: how do i try /bin/sh
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: could try a different search engine
[09:14] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, chroot /mnt /bin/sh
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> !info ncpfs
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: ^
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> 2mb, wow thats pretty chunkified
[09:15] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: doesent wotk, and both exists in /bin, bash and sh
[09:15] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yes, but it is for network mounting, no?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1354   I wouldnt know, readthe guide. It may clarify
[09:15] <matt098> info! lib32asound2-plugins
[09:16] <zeroXten> anyone managed to get opendx working properly on intrepid (am64)?
[09:16] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yeah, its over network
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> !info lib32asound2-plugins
[09:16] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, /mnt/bin/bash or /mnt/bin/sh has to exist.
[09:16] <younder> why won't opera display email?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: oh so you mean the local disks in a system?
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> younder: bad config
[09:16] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: they do
[09:16] <ActionParsnip1> find asound2
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> !find asound2
[09:17] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: yees :)
[09:17] <younder> ActionParsnip1:  obviously, but it is a ubuntu version
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> younder: its the same app, just coded for linux
[09:17] <younder> ActionParsnip1: evolution manages
[09:17] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: i am doing this: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide  commands on the bottom
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: what file system does it use?
[09:18] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: but cant do step 4 because of that
[09:18] <younder> ActionParsnip1: I know, I used to be a developer at Opera
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> younder: cool
[09:18] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: keyword: NSS, Netware 386
[09:19] <younder> ActionParsnip1: Probably why I have some qualms asking support
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: i think if you install the network servers but target local disks it may just be silly enough to work
[09:19] <AlHafoudh> ActionParsnip1: how do you mean
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> AlHafoudh: well the guide is talking about network shares over a network. rather than target remote shares, point the mount commands (or fstab) to the local partitions. It may just work
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> younder: what provider do you use?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> younder: for email
[09:21] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, I find it odd that its not working for you. Other things that can give you hassles is there are permission errors, or you're using a Live CD that is 32bit when your system is 64bit (or vice versa)--but those would give different errors than you've posted
[09:21] <younder> ActionParsnip1: standard POP3
[09:22] <hogan_9> i have a usb device which is automatically detected and mounted (connected through usb hub in monitor), if i switch the monitor off the hub looses power, however, when i want to reconnect the usb device it is not detected. can i reset usb modules somehome?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> younder: what is the name of the provider please. I may be able to find a guide
[09:22] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: maybe  thats it, i am having 32bit cd and 64bit system
[09:22] <younder> ActionParsnip1: telenor
[09:23] <hogan_9> *todate i have to restart the computer for the usb device to be recognised again ... :( which is not satisfactory
[09:23] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, try to run /mnt/bin/bash directly
[09:23] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: bash: /mnt/ubuntu/bin/bash: cannot execute binary file
[09:24] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, but yeah, you'll definately need the same Live CD as your system. It MIGHT work if your Live CD was 64-bit and your system is 32-bit... but I've never tried it.
[09:24] <tnoy> qwqwqqwqw, yeah, thats your problem then.
[09:24] <qwqwqqwqw> tnoy: ook, will be back if something wont work, tnx
[09:24] <younder> ActionParsnip1: pop.online.no
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> younder: pop3: pop.online.no smtp: smtp.online.no
[09:25] <SharpRain> hands
[09:25] <younder> ActionParsnip1: yes, it is set up so. It reads the email, but it never shows up in my email client
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> younder: i found this but its probably stuff you already know: http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/operaM2/setupEmailAccount.cwd
[09:26] <younder> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[09:27] <jpic> hi, i created a ubuntu liveUsb but did not allocate enough space for the system (i decided to install eclipse, 600M), what manual should i refer to?
[09:27] <jpic> (or system configuratio GUI if any)
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> younder: if you have folks at opera support you stil lkeep in contact, you can give them a call.
[09:30] <younder> ActionParsnip1: my thoughts exactly
[09:30] <ActionParsnip1> its not what you know, its who you know :)
[09:31] <pescrich> I have Xinerama with two monitors. How can I have a "static desktop" on one, and the normal desktop (multidesktop) on the other? Is this possible?
[09:33] <allan8904> hi can i ask about problems on here?
[09:33] <prince_jammys> allan8904: yes.
[09:34] <kd8JHC> !ask | allan8904
[09:34] <jpic> nobody?
[09:34] <allan8904> I booted up my computer and everything was normal, then about after 2 minutes all the applications that i launched's text has been replaced by random "------ - - - -- - ---  --" everwhere so i cant read the buttons or menus or anything. i tried deleting the .kde folder and it still does the same thing after reboot. Any ideas?
[09:35] <jpic> i guess i'll mount -o loop /cdrom/usr /usr then
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: you can boot to live cd to resize partitions if you have space
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> jpic: or plug in another usb storage and symlink the folder after copying the data across
[09:36] <jpic> i don't have a cd reader
[09:36] <jpic> actually symlinks won't work on vfat
[09:36]  * jpic just tested