[09:28] <microhaxo> paste them
[09:28] <DanielC> Whistler: Does it give you a chance to specify the system type? Mine comes out to "i686-pc-linux-gnu".
[09:28] <Burgundavia> bigbill52a, follow the advice on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:28] <Burgundavia> you will have must better success
[09:28] <bigbill52a> mine is installed
[09:29] <microhaxo> I did follow that advice
[09:29] <microhaxo> i get that error i showed you
[09:29] <microhaxo> :|
[09:29] <bigbill52a> in a terminal window
[09:29] <microhaxo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:29] <microhaxo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb
[09:29] <microhaxo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:30] <bigbill52a> type sudo cd /home/(and whatever dir the file is in
[09:30] <Whistler> DanielC how do i know whats my type?
[09:30] <microhaxo> its just in the home
[09:30] <DanielC> Whistler: What computer do you have? CPU?
[09:30] <bigbill52a> sudo alien fglrx*
[09:30] <Whistler> Duron
[09:30] <Whistler> 600
[09:31] <microhaxo> k
[09:31] <microhaxo> did that
[09:31] <microhaxo> made a folder in home
[09:31] <DanielC> Whistler: http://packages.debian.org/testing/games/tuxracer
[09:31] <snader> 'lo :-)
[09:31] <microhaxo> generated a deb file
[09:31] <microhaxo> for rpm
[09:32] <microhaxo> now what?
[09:32] <DanielC> Whistler: Duron is exactly what I have.
[09:32] <bigbill52a> del the rpm file and keep the deb file
[09:32] <microhaxo> k
[09:32] <g1gaman> DanielC, i have only 64 mb of ram. will it be enough to run linux with gnome? is it ok that there is no swap partition (just /usr and /)?
[09:32] <snader> anyone know why my fonts are +/- 2 pixels larger now i've disabled GDM?
[09:32] <microhaxo> k now what
[09:32] <DanielC> Whistler: So yours would also be "i686-pc-linux-gnu". But try installing the .deb package first.
[09:32] <Whistler> ok thx
[09:33] <DanielC> g1gaman: It'll be slow, but probably usable. I'm not sure though.
[09:33] <bigbill52a> just a sec
[09:33] <microhaxo> bigbill52a i deleted the rpm now what?
[09:33] <microhaxo> lol
[09:33] <microhaxo> esp
[09:33] <microhaxo> k
[09:33] <wulfepup> How can I tell if I should use the AMD-generic or the AMD-k8 kernel stuffs?
[09:33] <concept10> Any amule users?
[09:33] <g1gaman> DanielC, and how about swap?
[09:34] <bigbill52a> you have to change the permissions on the file....give me a sec
[09:34] <microhaxo> k
[09:34] <DanielC> DanielC: I'm under the impression that Ubuntu creates a swap partition for you automatically. It did for me, I think.
[09:34] <bigbill52a> sudo nautilus
[09:35] <bigbill52a> find the file and right click on it
[09:35] <DanielC> DanielC: I think it's part of the 1.8 GB it's supposed to need (but don't quote me on this).
[09:35] <DanielC> heh
[09:35] <g1gaman> DanielC, you replied yourself, but thank you anyway :D
[09:35] <wulfepup> err amd64-generic or amd64-k8 or etc etc  (I'm fairly sure it shouldn't be amd64-xeon (as I don't have a Xeon)) but what is amd64-k8-smp?
[09:35] <DanielC> g1gaman:  :-)  It's 3:40 AM for me.
[09:35] <microhaxo> k
[09:35] <microhaxo> hrm
[09:35] <bigbill52a> select permissions tab and put a check in all the blanks
[09:36] <microhaxo> bill, sudo nautilus cannot be rec as a command?
[09:36] <g1gaman> DanielC, omg. here in latvia it's 10:40 am
[09:36] <DanielC> Whistler: http://fatboy.umng.edu.co/debian/pool/main/t/tuxracer/
[09:36] <bigbill52a> in a terminal type sudo nautilus
[09:37] <bigbill52a> it will bring up the file browser
[09:37] <microhaxo> sudo: nautilus: command not found
[09:37] <microhaxo> im in kde
[09:37] <bigbill52a> sudo konqueror
[09:37] <microhaxo> k
[09:37] <microhaxo> im already in home folder
[09:37] <microhaxo> i can see permittions but i cant select any all greyed out
[09:38] <bigbill52a> did you sudo konqueror?
[09:38] <microhaxo> owner can read and write
[09:38] <bigbill52a> in a terminal window
[09:38] <microhaxo> no i just opened konqueror
[09:38] <bigbill52a> sudo konqueror in terminal window
[09:38] <microhaxo> ahh i see
[09:38] <microhaxo> k i did
[09:38] <microhaxo> now add all checks
[09:38] <bigbill52a> fiill all the blanks...lol
[09:39] <microhaxo> k
[09:39] <microhaxo> k i did
[09:39] <microhaxo> :D
[09:39] <microhaxo> now what?
[09:39] <bigbill52a> in the same konqueror window
[09:39] <microhaxo> yea
[09:39] <bigbill52a> tools
[09:39] <bigbill52a> open terminal
[09:39] <microhaxo> k
[09:40] <microhaxo> did that
[09:40] <bigbill52a> ./fglrx*
[09:40] <bigbill52a> and give me any error messages
[09:40] <microhaxo> ./fglrx64-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_amd64.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[09:40] <microhaxo> ./fglrx64-6-8-0_8.14.13-2_amd64.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'
[09:41] <bigbill52a> do you have amd-64?
[09:41] <microhaxo> yes
[09:41] <microhaxo> :D
[09:41] <microhaxo> lol
[09:41] <Chris-> Would trying to install with a dvd burner be a possible cause for installs to fail often?
[09:41] <uman> hey all
[09:41] <uman> how can I search through the apt-get repositories?
[09:41] <uman> is there a way
[09:42] <uman> like portage -s (I'm a convert from Gentoo)
[09:42] <bigbill52a> you need to use to download the headers for your kernel using synaptic
[09:42] <Freshtenner> hi all
[09:42] <microhaxo> k, how would i do this?
[09:42] <wulfepup> what's the difference between the various amd64 kernels?  (what is k8 and and k8 SMP?)
[09:42] <transgress> hahahahaha gentoo's founder is going to redmond!  bet that'll calm the ricers down a bit.
[09:43] <bigbill52a> synaptic
[09:43] <transgress> smp is for multiple processors
[09:43] <bigbill52a> package manager
[09:43] <microhaxo> where is this?
[09:43] <bigbill52a> from the same terminal type synaptic
[09:43] <microhaxo> bash: synaptic: command not found
[09:43] <NicP> lol
[09:44] <bigbill52a> sudo synaptic....duh..lol
[09:44] <wulfepup> transgress, TY  what's the diff between -generic and -k8?  ( I have an "Authentic AMD" according to my specs)
[09:44] <transgress> microhaxo: you don't have it because you have kubuntu
[09:44] <microhaxo> yea
[09:44] <microhaxo> i have KDE
[09:44] <microhaxo> :|
[09:44] <microhaxo> whats the kde one
[09:44] <transgress> k8 is for the k8 chip arch
[09:44] <NicP> i didnt know there was a kde one?
[09:44] <transgress> generic is for a generic compilation
[09:44] <transgress> the kde one is kynaptic
[09:44] <microhaxo> :D
[09:44] <microhaxo> thanks
[09:44] <wulfepup> kynaptic  or something
[09:44] <bigbill52a> kpackage
[09:44] <NicP> that would make sense :D
[09:44] <microhaxo> ok
[09:44] <microhaxo> im in it
[09:44] <microhaxo> :D
[09:44] <transgress> kpackage is good... but you have to get it ... kynaptic comes base
[09:45] <microhaxo> bill im in the manager now whaT?
[09:45] <bigbill52a> ok
[09:45] <wulfepup> transgress, how would I know which is better for my processor?
[09:45] <bigbill52a> just a sec
[09:45] <microhaxo> k
[09:46] <transgress> wulfepup: get the most specific one you can... only use generic if you have to
[09:46] <Guerin> uman: ask
[09:46] <Guerin> uman: don't piss off the people in #debian
[09:46] <bigbill52a> in search type headers
[09:46] <uman> Guerin: ok
[09:46] <wulfepup> note to self: NEVER leave your soda can beside the laptop vents ... ewwwww warm soda.. hot can
[09:46] <uman> Guerin: I asked already
[09:47] <uman> I'll repaste it...
[09:47] <uman> 00:41 < uman> how can I search through the apt-get repositories?
[09:47] <uman> 00:41 < uman> is there a way
[09:47] <uman> 00:42 < uman> like portage -s (I'm a convert from Gentoo)
[09:47] <Guerin> uman: I just joined this channel to avert another flamewar in #debian
[09:47] <microhaxo> bill there is no search :|
[09:47] <bigbill52a> and then match the headers with the actual kernel you using
[09:47] <wulfepup> transgress, So, assuming a single Athlon AMD64 .. I should grab k8?
[09:47] <uman> Guerin: thanks
[09:47] <Guerin> uman: apt-cache search; aptitude search; apt-get install apt-file
[09:47] <microhaxo> find
[09:47] <microhaxo> headers
[09:47] <microhaxo> k
[09:47] <transgress> wulfepup: yeah
[09:47] <microhaxo> now what?
[09:47] <bigfoot1> hi all. when I open up firefox, it doesn't start up with my profile. It seems to be loading as if it's is safe mode. can anyone help?
[09:48] <Guerin> uman: any real reason why the #ubuntu people can't answer this one?
[09:48] <wulfepup> transgress, grwat thanks!
[09:48] <uman> Guerin: I have no idea
[09:48] <Nalo> Hello! Does php package come with Ubuntu 5.04?
[09:48] <uman> Guerin: but they aren't
[09:48] <Guerin> uman: sorry, that last directed to the whole channel
[09:48] <bigbill52a> find the headers that match up to your kernel
[09:48] <transgress> bigfoot1: kill any other instance of firefox
[09:48] <wulfepup> nalo... nope.. use synaptic
[09:48] <uman> Guerin: thanks for the info
[09:48] <bigbill52a> you can verify your kernel by typing /boot in konqueror
[09:48] <microhaxo> amd64 k8 wtf is k8?
[09:48] <Nalo> synaptic is an application manager, isn't it?
[09:48] <Guerin> eh... you #ubuntu folks... don't you know how to use the package management tools?
[09:49] <bigfoot1> transgress, my comp was off. I just turned it on now. I don't think there are other instances of firefox. but i can check, to be sure. So how do i know if there are other instances of fx open?
[09:49] <microhaxo> transgress, what is SMP?
[09:49] <bigbill52a> that is what you have k-8
[09:49] <wulfepup> nalo .. it is the pretty and easy gui for apt-get
[09:49] <microhaxo> k
[09:49] <microhaxo> whats smp bill?
[09:49] <transgress> smp is for multiple processors
[09:49] <Chris-> isn't SMP multiple procs?
[09:49] <pestil> microhaxo, SMP is support for multiple CPUs
[09:49] <microhaxo> aight
[09:49] <Chris-> yeah, thought so
[09:49] <Nalo> thank you very much... I only wanted to be sure
[09:49] <transgress> i so pwned you both
[09:49] <transgress> ;)
[09:50] <microhaxo> ok so i clicked linux headers 2.6.10-5amd64-k8
[09:50] <microhaxo> install
[09:50] <uman> Guerin: so what is the deal with #debian? I'm sure that answer applies in both distros.
[09:50] <bigbill52a> look in /boot and see what kernel you have and then select the headers for it
[09:50] <uman> Guerin: correct me if I'm mistaken
[09:50] <bigbill52a> yes
[09:50] <bigbill52a> install
[09:50] <bigfoot1> transgress, ?
[09:50] <jaku> hi, where can I find a wiki to add the debian menu in the gnome panel?
[09:50] <microhaxo> err how do i?
[09:51] <microhaxo> commit changes
[09:51] <microhaxo> or update all packages?
[09:51] <bigbill52a> yyes
[09:51] <bigbill52a> commit changes
[09:51] <microhaxo> k
[09:51] <microhaxo> dloading
[09:51] <microhaxo> files
[09:51] <microhaxo> done
[09:51] <microhaxo> its installin
[09:52] <bigbill52a> when it finishes...terminal sudo konqueror
[09:52] <bigfoot1> I clicked on the firefox icon, but it loaded up as if i ran safe mode. how can i get firefox to load up as usual, with all my bookmarks, extensions, etc?
[09:52] <microhaxo> k
[09:52] <Chris-> -__- I think something is wrong with my dvd burner, I've downloaded so many versions of linux to install and it always says currupt
[09:52] <bigbill52a> find fglrx again
[09:52] <bigbill52a> open terminal
[09:52] <bigbill52a> type ./fglrx*
[09:52] <bigbill52a> and i will go for smoke....while you do that...lol
[09:52] <microhaxo> Lol k
[09:53] <Chris-> slow down bill ;-)
[09:53] <zyth> huh, cedega actually works fairly well.  Now for the litmus test, will WoW run
[09:53] <microhaxo> damn, its takin some time to set up these linux headers
[09:53] <bigfoot1> does anyone have some knowledge about firefox?
[09:54] <uman> bigfoot1: a bit, why?
[09:54] <bigfoot1> uman, I clicked on the firefox icon, but it loaded up as if i ran safe mode. how can i get firefox to load up as usual, with all my bookmarks, extensions, etc?
[09:55] <retrodick> yeah...i'm back...
[09:55] <microhaxo> err, is it ever going to get past this screen? setting up linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 (2.6.10-34.2)
[09:55] <bigbill52a> back
[09:55] <uman> bigfoot1: I dunno
[09:55] <microhaxo> lol still says settin up
[09:55] <microhaxo> ?
[09:55] <bigbill52a> someday
[09:55] <uman> bigfoot1: sorry
[09:55] <wulfepup> I installed several FTP gui clients ... was there one that came with Gnome anyway that I missed .. or should I go hunting for the ones I apt-"got"
[09:55] <bigfoot1> uman, that's ok.
[09:55] <microhaxo> Setting up linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 (2.6.10-34.2) ...
[09:55] <microhaxo> :|
[09:55] <ubotu> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT has landed!
[09:55] <chocoIate> hi
[09:55] <Chris-> How long do ubuntu cd's usually take to arrive, I ordered one as my burner likes to make currupt cds
[09:56] <microhaxo> bigbill how long should this take?
[09:56] <microhaxo> lol
[09:56] <uman> bad! Using IRC as root!  I'm connected as root, and i keep getting disconnected on almost all servers
[09:56] <chocoIate> well, how do i make a new  user as a sudoer :o
[09:56] <pestil> Chris-, about 6 weeks
[09:56] <retrodick> i have --> nvu-1.0PR-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2, any one can help to install it?!!!
[09:56] <wulfepup> Chris-, they take as long as it takes, plus time for shipping ;)
[09:56] <uman> chocoIate: with visudo
[09:56] <uman> chocoIate: and you can use "su -" to switch to root you know
[09:56] <uman> chocoIate: on a temporary basis
[09:56] <zyth> Anyone know of any joypads that work well with Linux?
[09:56] <Guerin> uman: yeah, this one does happen to be the same, but there are many others which aren't.
[09:57] <uman> chocoIate: you don't need to run as root for day-to-day tasks
[09:57] <uman> Guerin: Yes, I know.
[09:57] <Guerin> uman: basically, it's a matter of opening floodgates.
[09:57] <uman> Guerin: that's why I clearly said "this is the same between Debian and Ubuntu."
[09:57] <Chris-> :-P Alright, I ordered mine on......  Of course it can be crazy :-P
[10:00] <kvidell> and uman: it's all about context.
[10:00] <Seveas> chocoIate, use viso
[10:00] <zyth> gack World of Warcraft takes forever to install
[10:00] <uman> kvidell: yeah I know
[10:00] <Seveas> visudo*
[10:00] <zyth> uman, IRC = Insane Relay Chat ;)
[10:00] <uman> kvidell: flubberlock you all then!
[10:00] <nern> i love all of you
[10:00] <vinux> hey can anyone tell me how to start up ubuntu just in command line mode but to be able to type something like startx to get into gnome when I want to?
[10:00] <chocoIate> i am unable to connect online without a sudo command
[10:00] <nern> ive been doing drugs
[10:00] <Seveas> go to the last line, hit o to go to edit mode and add the user
[10:01] <nern> and im so fucked up right now
[10:01] <kvidell> that's special.
[10:01] <chocoIate> it keeps basing me
[10:01] <uman> chocoIate: what?
[10:01] <uman> chocoIate: then something is seriously wrong with your system if you can't connect to the internet without sudo
[10:01] <Seveas> chocoIate, add this line:
[10:01] <bob2> vinux: delete gdm from run level 3 (sudo rm /etc/rc3.d/S*gdm), boot into runlevel 3 (hit esc during boot to get into grub, e to modify the boot parameters, add 3 to the end and continue booting
[10:02] <Seveas> user ALL=(ALL) ALL
[10:02] <Seveas> replace user by your username
[10:02] <retrodick> hey...anyone can help me?
[10:02] <uman> retrodick: that depends
[10:02] <cyphase> with?
[10:02] <Seveas> retrodick, maybe, if you say what we can help you with
[10:02] <uman> retrodick: on how knowledgeable we are and how difficult your problem is.
[10:02] <retrodick> how to instal nvu-1.0PR-pc-linux2.6.10-gnu.tar.bz2 to my ubuntu
[10:03] <vinux> bob2, cool thanks
[10:03] <cyphase> retrodick, nvu is in the repositories
[10:03] <retrodick> ya...
[10:04] <Seveas> retrodick, if you don't want to use the repositories (you really should though): tar jxvf nvu-----.bz2 and read the README and INSTALL files...
[10:04] <retrodick> nope i mean...
[10:04] <bigfoot1> hello. in my firefox folder, i have 2 profiles. But when i run "firefox -profilemanager" it only shows one of them. How could i load up the other profile?
[10:07] <vinux> bob2, hehe wish me luck brb
[10:10] <Whistler> checking for location of tclConfig.sh... configure: error: tclConfig.sh not found - use the --with-tcl option
[10:10] <Whistler> whats wrong?
[10:10] <Seveas> Whistler, that completely depends on what you are doing...
[10:10] <Whistler> ok
[10:11] <Seveas> so what are you doing?
[10:11] <Whistler> http://pastebin.com/299735
[10:11] <Whistler> look here
[10:12] <Whistler> i am trying to ./configure
[10:12] <Seveas> tuxracer is in the repositories...
[10:12] <Whistler> ?
[10:12] <Seveas> ah wait, you are trying to install ppracer
[10:12] <Whistler> it doesnt matter
[10:13] <Whistler> i wanna game
[10:13] <Whistler> ppracer
[10:13] <Whistler> or tux racer
[10:13] <vinux> you bob2 it works but I didn't put 3 to boot. If I don't would that be really bad?
[10:13] <Whistler> its the same
[10:13] <bob2> vinux: I don't know what you mean
[10:13] <bob2> Whistler: so install tuxracer
[10:13] <bob2> Whistler: sudo aptitutde install tuxracer
[10:13] <bigfoot1> help. i was playing around with the  profiles.ini file in /.firefox and now firefox can't find my profile. if you have only one profile in use. could you copy and paste it please?
[10:14] <Seveas> yeah, tuxracer is the easiest to install
[10:14] <Whistler> ?
[10:14] <vinux> bob2, oh well I boot up fine in command line. then I just do startx to go into gnome fine. What was the add 3 for?
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install tuxracer
[10:14] <bob2> Whistler: you don't need to compile it
[10:14] <Seveas> and done :)
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install tuxkart
[10:14] <Seveas> and another game is installed :)
[10:14] <Whistler> oh
[10:14] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install supertux
[10:14] <Whistler> cool
[10:14] <Whistler> thx
[10:14] <Seveas> and you have tux as super mario
[10:14] <bob2> vinux: to boot into runlevel 3.  either you deleted it from rc2, or you switched the default runlevel
[10:14] <vinux> bob2, oh yea that's right I did switch it
[10:15] <retrodick> Seveas: what should i do after i run the  tar jxvf command...
[10:15] <retrodick> its extarct the nvu
[10:15] <Seveas> retrodick, read the INSTALL and README files, they will tell what to do
[10:15] <bob2> vinux: there's no reason to ever switch the default
[10:15] <bigfoot1> can anyone help me?
[10:15] <retrodick> there is no readme or install
[10:15] <Seveas> retrodick, but why don't you use nvu from the ubuntu repositories?
[10:16] <vinux> bob2, well is running in 3 ok? I mean it's not bad right?
[10:16] <Seveas> bigfoot1, maybe, if you say what we can help you with
[10:17] <retrodick> i dont know if there is ubuntu repo.
[10:17] <bob2> vinux: it's identical to 2
[10:17] <bob2> or was unti lyou changed it
[10:17] <Whistler> ubuntu is so cool
[10:17] <vinux> bob2, k cool
[10:18] <retrodick> how can I get the repositories of nvu for ubuntu
[10:19] <paxor> Guys, remind me of tail -f syslog ... how should it be used?
[10:19] <bob2> just like that
[10:19] <Seveas> paxor, just as you typed it :)
[10:19] <paxor> k.
[10:19] <bob2> but if you want to leave it running, use --follow=name instead of -f
[10:19] <paxor> ty, it's been 3 years.
[10:19] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i was playing around with the  profiles.ini file in /.firefox and now firefox can't find my profile. if you have only one profile in use. could you copy and paste it please?
[10:19] <bob2> (or it'll stop doing anything when the log file gets rotated at 0625 tommorow)
[10:20] <paxor> bob2, I remeber I used to use color logs ... where can I find that?
[10:20] <Seveas> bigbill52a, you mean my profiles.ini?
[10:20] <Seveas> bigfoot1, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/75
[10:21] <chicks_21> hai
[10:21] <bob2> bigfoot1: in future, tho, you should back up things before touching them
[10:21] <Seveas> bigfoot1, you would need to change the path though :)
[10:21] <bigfoot1> bob2, yes, i was making a backup in gedit, but i saved the backup file with the same changes. oops.
[10:22] <bigfoot1> Seveas, okay. thanks.
[10:22] <bob2> paxor: multitail, it seems
[10:22] <Nalo> How can I download the php package to install it without internet connection? if I use "apt-get install php4" ubuntu downloads the package from internet
[10:23] <Seveas> Nalo, if you just want to download: apt-get -d install libapache2-mod-php4
[10:23] <ukato> is downloading from the repositories going slow for anyone?
[10:23] <paxor> Seveas, tail -f syslog tells me cannot open syslog for reading/no file remaining. does it need the path to syslog?
[10:24] <Seveas> tail -f /var/log/systlog
[10:24] <paxor> ahhh thank yous ir.
[10:24] <paxor> sir*
[10:24] <Seveas> tail -f /var/log/syslog
[10:24] <Seveas> without the t :)
[10:25] <paxor> Gotcha :)
[10:25] <paxor> bob2, multitail is a script, right?
[10:25] <Hajuu> heya
[10:26] <bob2> paxor: it's a package
[10:26] <vinux> bob2, What's the best way to put everyting on CD where I don't have to download anything from the repositories? I have a friend that wants to install ubuntu but he has a bad interent connection. Anyway I could put all the programs on CDs for him?
[10:26] <Seveas> vinux, do you have ubuntu installed?
[10:26] <vinux> Seveas, yes I do
[10:27] <paxor> bob2, is it the one that shows logs with colors and stuff? excuse my ignorance.
[10:27] <Hajuu> How can I start/stop the sound server without restarting? and I mean start/stop the actual server.. not processes using it.
[10:27] <bob2> paxor: I don't know
[10:27] <Seveas> vinux, use apt-zip
[10:27] <bob2> paxor: try it and see
[10:27] <paxor> K.
[10:27] <goye2cz> haldo!!!
[10:27] <Seveas> Hajuu, killall esd
[10:27] <bob2> vinux: debian-cd can do that for you
[10:27] <Seveas> and just type esd to restart it
[10:28] <Whistler> how do i know my kernel version?
[10:28] <Hajuu> I type esd to restart it and my terminal just idles there
[10:28] <Seveas> uname -r
[10:28] <Whistler> uname -r?
[10:28] <vinux> bob2, what's debian-cd? You mean the debian cds?
[10:28] <Seveas> uname -a show more info than just kernel version
[10:28] <Whistler> ok
[10:28] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i don't think i know how to fix it up. when i do "firefox -profilemanager", it doesn't have my profile
[10:28] <Whistler> =]
[10:28] <Seveas> Whistler, type that in a shell
[10:29] <bob2> vinux: no, I mean the package called "debian-cd"
[10:29] <Whistler> i know
[10:29] <jaku> how can i install the debian menu in the gnome panel?
[10:29] <bob2> vinux: it generates apt'able cds from a pile of .debs
[10:29] <Seveas> jaku, you can use smeg for that
[10:29] <vinux> Seveas, so you are saying download everything then zip it all?
[10:29] <jaku> Seveas: smeg?
[10:29] <vinux> bob2, nice
[10:29] <Seveas> vinux, read the manual page for apt-zip or debian-cd :)
[10:29] <Seveas> jaku, see www.realistanew.com
[10:30] <synd--> how to get rid of the terminal window?
[10:30] <vinux> Seveas, hehe
[10:30] <synd--> as in the border..titlebar
[10:30] <bob2> depends on your window manager and terminal
[10:30] <bob2> devilspie presumably can do it
[10:30] <vinux> Seveas, which would you prefer? apt-zip or debian-cd?
[10:30] <synd--> bob2, devilspie ?
[10:30] <Seveas> synd, for gnome/gnome terminal: hit the menu view->full screen
[10:30] <bigfoot1> Seveas, i fixed it up now, after some more changes. thank you.
[10:30] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[10:30] <Seveas> yw
[10:30] <bob2> synd--: apt-cache show ...
[10:31] <Seveas> vinux, i have never used either, i just know they're there :)
[10:31] <synd--> bob2, Seveas: im in xfce, terminal
[10:31] <ukato> is apt going slow for anyone
[10:31] <paxor> is eterm still widely used?
[10:31] <bob2> not by people who use UTF-8 locales
[10:31] <bob2> e.g. hoary users
[10:31] <kakalto> isn't 7200RPM meant to be fast for a hdd?
[10:31] <bob2> it's fast for a cheap IDE hard disk
[10:32] <kakalto> hrm
[10:32] <bob2> scsi ones are up to 15000rpm
[10:32] <Hajuu> kakalto:  average..
[10:32] <Nalo> Seveas, and there is any way to download it from ftp or http?
[10:32] <Get> is there any tool for convert ogg -> mp3?
[10:32] <kakalto> 'cause it's taking a long time transferring to the ATA hdd, and it's taking almost all system resources
[10:32] <kakalto> I can
[10:32] <kakalto> arr
[10:32] <kvidell> audacity.
[10:32] <Seveas> Nalo, yes, go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for it
[10:32] <kakalto> I can't even type smoothly in xchat
[10:33] <Seveas> you will get download links too
[10:33] <bob2> kakalto: is dma enabled?
[10:33] <kakalto> dma?
[10:33] <Nalo> ok, I'll try... thanks a lot
[10:33] <bob2> indeed
[10:33] <bob2> kakalto: sudo hdparm /dev/hda
[10:33] <benplaut> g'night everyone
[10:33] <zyth> Get, yes, but why on earth would you deface your .ogg's like that?
[10:33] <kakalto> bob2, is it alright to do that while copying something to the hdd?
[10:33] <sniff> gn8 @ this time?
[10:34] <Get> zyth, need it for a mp3-player ;)
[10:34] <kakalto> sniff, not everyone lives in your timezone
[10:34] <zyth> Get, ahh.   Is there a way to have the URL displayed when the mouse is hovering over a hyperlink?
[10:36] <synd--> bob2, i did man devilspie, didnt say much
[10:36] <zyth> Get, did you try playing it in xmms with the disk writer plugin? I think it may work.  Not sure tho
[10:36] <bob2> bigfoot1: there's another extension for that
[10:36] <Seveas> bigbill52a, you could use greasemonkey for that
[10:36] <kakalto> Seveas, operation not permitted
[10:36] <Seveas> bigfoot1*
[10:36] <bigfoot1> really? do tell.
[10:36] <Seveas> kakalto, use sudo :)
[10:36] <bigfoot1> i have greasemonkey, but which script?
[10:36] <kakalto> I already did
[10:36] <kakalto> and operation is still not permitted
[10:37] <Seveas> kakalto, then you need to modprobe the correct driver for your IDE chipset
[10:37] <bob2> bigfoot1: don't know
[10:37] <bob2> the tooltip normally displays the alt tag, not the href
[10:37] <bob2> er, attribute
[10:37] <kakalto> Seveas, that went straight over my head
[10:37] <Seveas> bigfoot1, find one on the greasemonkey website or make  one yourself :)
[10:37] <bigfoot1> seveas, so what i am looking for is "href", right?
[10:38] <bigfoot1> href is the keyword when i do my search, right, Seveas ?
[10:38] <Seveas> bigfoot1, an extension that displays the href attribute of a link when you hover over it instead of the title argument...
[10:38] <kvidell> or alt
[10:38] <bob2> ah, title, not alt, duh me
[10:38] <bigfoot1> gotcha, Seveas
[10:38] <kvidell> oh wait.. alt is for img
[10:39] <Seveas> :)
[10:39] <kakalto> Seveas, how do I "modprobe the correct driver for my IDE chipset"?
[10:39] <Seveas> kakalto, dunno, depends on which motherboard you have
[10:39] <zyth> how do I add games to my games menu? Pingus, Supertux, and Tuxracer were all evil and didn't add themselves to my menus
[10:39] <kakalto> A7V600
[10:39] <kakalto> :P
[10:39] <Seveas> kakalto, wiki.ubunutu.com/DMA
[10:39] <Seveas> kakalto, wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[10:39] <Seveas> zyth, use smeg
[10:40] <zyth> smeg?
[10:40] <Seveas> from www.realistanew.com or the backport repositories
[10:40] <zyth> what is it?
[10:40] <Seveas> Simple Menu Editor for Gnome
[10:41] <Seveas> (but it supports KDE too, since it actually is a freedesktop.org menu editor)
[10:41] <kunterbunt> hey there, can anybody advice me on distros for newbies? is ubuntu suitable?
[10:41] <zyth> hm, I have backports, but I don't see it in synaptic.
[10:41] <Seveas> kunterbunt, very
[10:41] <kunterbunt> Seveas, why so? what about mandrake and fedora?
[10:41] <Seveas> zyth, it's in hoary-backports
[10:41] <Seveas> kunterbunt, fedora is pure crap, honest
[10:42] <Seveas> and mandrake / mandriva is not much better
[10:42] <Seveas> they're definitely not suitable for beginners
[10:42] <kunterbunt> Seveas, ok but why do you think so? what is the problem with those?
[10:42] <zyth> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/hoary-extras ?
[10:42] <Seveas> kunterbunt, well as biggest objection they use rpms
[10:43] <Seveas> they are slow in updating
[10:43] <Seveas> don't have good defaults
[10:43] <Seveas> are not 'just works' like ubuntu
[10:43] <Seveas> and escpecially red crap / fedora is as incompatible as hell
[10:43] <kunterbunt> Seveas, what's wrong with rpms?
[10:43] <Seveas> zyth, hoary-backports
[10:44] <Seveas> kunterbunt, rpms are a very inferior format compared to .deb files
[10:44] <kunterbunt> Seveas, but ubuntu updates every six months, so does fc
[10:44] <zyth> got the deb
[10:44] <Seveas> and apt beats rpm hell :)
[10:44] <bob2> well, not that inferior
[10:44] <bob2> it's just that they don't have Debian Policy to guide them
[10:44] <kunterbunt> Seveas, that is what I heard about yum, but why is apt-get so much better?
[10:44] <Seveas> bob2, is there something like debhelper for rpm?
[10:44] <zyth> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[10:44] <zyth>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[10:44] <zyth>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[10:44] <zyth> ugh
[10:45] <Seveas> apt-get is not that much better
[10:45] <Seveas> aptitude is though :)
[10:45] <Seveas> or synaptic
[10:45] <bob2> zyth: how did you manage to get that?
[10:45] <Seveas> zyth, these are also in hoary-backports
[10:45] <bob2> Seveas: .spec files are way less freeform and simpler than debian/rules
[10:45] <zyth> bob2, tried to install smeg.
[10:45] <bob2> go backports, its your birthday
[10:45] <Seveas> bob2, ack
[10:45] <zyth> Seveas, great, what's the repository line?
[10:45] <Seveas> but debian/rules is more powerful :)
[10:46] <Seveas> zyth, look at backports.ubuntuforums.org/url.php
[10:46] <bob2> I wish Amaranth would just host smeg somewhere else
[10:46] <kunterbunt> Seveas, so newest ubuntu is 5.04? how old is that release?
[10:46] <bob2> and make it work on hoary
[10:46] <antiwmac> i got kernel panic when trying to install ubuntu on vmware
[10:46] <bob2> kunterbunt: from april
[10:46] <Seveas> bob2, heh :)
[10:47] <bob2> kunterbunt: 5.04 = 2005-04
[10:47] <antiwmac> kernel-panic -not synring
[10:47] <bob2> antiwmac: talk to the vmware people
[10:47] <zyth> I already HAVE a synpatic entry for ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net
[10:47] <zyth> oh hm
[10:47] <Seveas> zyth, with hoary-extras or hoary-backports?
[10:47] <Seveas> these are 2 separate things
[10:47] <kunterbunt> bob2, i am really not sure what distro to go for or what to look for. fc4 is supposed to be really fast
[10:48] <bob2> kunterbunt: I really really doubt it's "faster" in a useful way than ubuntu
[10:48] <kunterbunt> bob2, also why doesn't ubuntu have root?
[10:48] <Whistler> can anybody help me with ati drivers?
[10:48] <bob2> kunterbunt: everyone is using the same compiler and code
[10:48] <Seveas> kunterbunt: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[10:48] <zyth> Seveas, yeah ok I see that now :)
[10:48] <bob2> kunterbunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:48] <kunterbunt> bob2, ubuntu has gcc 4
[10:48] <Seveas> basiclly, because it's safer without a root password
[10:48] <bob2> kunterbunt: hoary is built with gcc 3.3
[10:48] <microhaxo> Can someone send me the sources.list for the kubutu amd64 stro?
[10:48] <bob2> microhaxo: run apt-setup
[10:49] <sam2> i just got started using ubuntu and i am wondering how you are supposed to get started with using whatever software that you install with apt-get
[10:49] <kakalto> Seveas, that just says how to use hdparm... nothing about "modprobing the correct driver for my IDE chipset"
[10:49] <Whistler> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&highlight=dma i dont understand the 3rd step
[10:49] <Whistler> what shoul i edit in that file
[10:49] <[v2hja] > hi
[10:49] <Whistler> what should i edit in that file
[10:49] <Juhaz> fedora is a good distro, and so is hoary, why don't you try both and see what you like best?
[10:49] <kunterbunt> bob2, can i update to gccc 4.0?
[10:50] <kunterbunt> Juhaz, problem is that i don't really know what i am looking for in a good distro. that is why i am trying to get some ideas here
[10:50] <xydinesh> juhaz:debian sarge is also perfect
[10:50] <[v2hja] > where can i look whant kernel version i have ????
[10:50] <kunterbunt> i wanna know what makes them better
[10:50] <mag> gcc 4.0 is sloooow
[10:50] <Seveas> [v2hja] , uname -r
[10:50] <bob2> kunterbunt: hoary includes gcc 4.0, but was not built with it
[10:50] <mag> i don't know why
[10:50] <Whistler> can anybody help me with ati drivers?
[10:50] <kunterbunt> bob2, why do i care what it was built with?
[10:50] <[v2hja] > Seveas,
[10:50] <[v2hja] > thx
[10:50] <bob2> kunterbunt: I don't know
[10:51] <bob2> kunterbunt: why do you care?
[10:51] <[v2hja] > http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557 according to this
[10:51] <bob2> Whistler: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:51] <bob2> Whistler: follow that
[10:51] <Seveas> [v2hja] , you too
[10:51] <Seveas> do not follow random instructions on the forums
[10:51] <[v2hja] > $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx IS this the right command then ??????
[10:52] <Seveas> use the wikipage
[10:52] <[v2hja] > Seveas,
[10:52] <[v2hja] > it didnt work
[10:52] <bob2> [v2hja] :  wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <kunterbunt> bob2, if i wanna comile s.th. it matters what compiler i have no? not what was used to compile my distro
[10:52] <[v2hja] > bob2, it wont work
[10:52] <zyth> Seveas, do I want main, multiverse, restricted, etc? or what
[10:52] <bob2> [v2hja] : "wont"? why?
[10:52] <[v2hja] > dunno
[10:52] <[v2hja] > i am a n00b
[10:52] <Seveas> kunterbunt, well, C++ applications you compile with gcc4 will not cooperate with libraries provided by ubuntu
[10:52] <bob2> [v2hja] : er, so why don'y you just follow them?
[10:52] <Seveas> since gcc4 introduces an abi change for c++
[10:53] <[v2hja] > i get that error that the writer says ..... but the fix wont do anything
[10:53] <microhaxo> Guys i dont have my kernel headers and i cannot COMPLETE MY ATI DRIVER SETUP PLZ HELP ME!
[10:53] <Seveas> microhaxo, relax...
[10:53] <kunterbunt> Seveas, is gcc 4.0 really that much faster anyway?
[10:53] <Seveas> microhaxo: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <microhaxo> lol i have been working at this for like 5 hrs
[10:53] <bob2> kunterbunt: no
[10:53] <microhaxo> seveas dont work..
[10:53] <Seveas> kunterbunt, ENOIDEA
[10:54] <poningru> is there a common bug in the laptop mode where if you close the screen it goes into the locked screen and wont wake up?
[10:54] <bob2> poningru: no
[10:54] <[v2hja] > Note If you are having problems related to DRI or 3d acceleration and the following lines show up in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ----(WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.----------------(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work ----then make sure you have linux-restricted-modules installed for your kernel (type sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)).
[10:54] <[v2hja] > this wont do dang
[10:54] <kunterbunt> bob2, how long have you guys been using ubuntu?
[10:54] <poningru> do you know if this has happend to people?
[10:54] <bob2> kunterbunt: may last year
[10:54] <Seveas> [v2hja] , are you on intel or amd?
[10:54] <bob2> poningru: if it did, they would have reported it in the BTS (http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/)
[10:54] <[v2hja] > intel
[10:54] <bob2> kunterbunt: and debian for 4 years before that
[10:55] <[v2hja] > and 9800pro
[10:55] <poningru> right
[10:55] <bob2> [v2hja] : can you please just follow the instructions?
[10:55] <poningru> anyone know a fix to it?
[10:55] <Seveas> [v2hja] , sudo aptitude install linux-686 xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:55] <[v2hja] > bob2,
[10:55] <bob2> poningru: that would be in the bts, too, if there was one
[10:55] <zyth> backports added causes me to apparently have 29 updates to do - Do I WANT to do this?
[10:55] <bob2> zyth: no
[10:55] <poningru> heh ok thanks
[10:55] <Seveas> zyth, depends on your taste. I would say: no
[10:55] <zyth> bob2, ok, I'll remove backports now that smeg is installed
[10:55] <zyth> thanks
[10:55] <bob2> good way to go
[10:56] <[v2hja] > Seveas, ------ is that updater ?
[10:56] <kunterbunt> bob2, so why the switch from debian to ubuntu? after 4years you shouldn't need user friendly ness? no?
[10:56] <poningru> who maintains buc?
[10:56] <poningru> or BTS
[10:56] <bob2> [v2hja] : why don't you just follow the instructions?
[10:56] <poningru> what does BTS stand for?
[10:56] <bob2> poningru: bug tracking system
[10:56] <[v2hja] > bob2,
[10:56] <[v2hja] > i did
[10:56] <bob2> [v2hja] : and?
[10:56] <Seveas> poningru, bugzilla.ubuntu.com is the url for the bts
[10:57] <bob2> kunterbunt: heh, I was working with the ubuntu guys, and they wanted testers before it went public
[10:57] <[v2hja] > and it gives and errir that is said there
[10:57] <[v2hja] > but the fix wont work
[10:57] <[v2hja] > beacause its allready updated
[10:57] <bob2> [v2hja] : so, run 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[10:57] <bob2> [v2hja] : awesome
[10:57] <bob2> [v2hja] : now, reboot
[10:57] <paxoff> second time ubuntu freezes since I installed it (about 4 hours) :(
[10:57] <[v2hja] > i have allready rebooteb twice
[10:57] <Seveas> paxoff, that's not good
[10:58] <kunterbunt> bob2, oh cool and now you like it better, huh. ok that must mean something.  I guess i'll give it a try. where can i find out what packages it comes with?
[10:58] <Seveas> [v2hja] , do you have fglrx in /etc/modules?
[10:58] <bob2> kunterbunt: no, I use both still
[10:58] <paxoff> Seveas, what could it be?
[10:58] <microhaxo> aight
[10:58] <[v2hja] > bob2,
[10:58] <[v2hja] > linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 is already the newest version.
[10:58] <[v2hja] > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[10:58] <Seveas> paxoff, how would i know, i can't look inside your computer :)
[10:58] <paxoff> hehe
[10:58] <microhaxo> someone please walk me through installing ATI DRIVERS, i have followed EVERYTHING, but somthing is wrong wih my linux
[10:58] <microhaxo> lol
[10:58] <paxoff> I mean maybe hardware?
[10:58] <Seveas> paxoff, look at /var/log/syslog /var/log/kern.log /var/log/emerg.log for clues
[10:59] <paxoff> k
[10:59] <kunterbunt> bob2, do you also hate fedora like Seveas?
[10:59] <bob2> kunterbunt: I don't hate it, but I see no reaso nto use it
[10:59] <k31th_> guys
[10:59] <Seveas> microhaxo, install linux-686 (linux-k7 if you're on amd) and xorg-driver-fglrx, add fglrx to your /etc/modules, change xorg.conf and reboot
[10:59] <bob2> microhaxo: you need to explain what the actual problem is
[10:59] <zyth> ugh world of warcraft takes forever to install.
[10:59] <k31th_> i got this issue this Linux box crashes on shutdown on eth0
[10:59] <k31th_> where would it log it to ?
[10:59] <microhaxo> Problem is, i keep getting errors
[10:59] <bob2> [v2hja] : what does 'lsmod | grep fgl" print out?
[11:00] <microhaxo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:00] <microhaxo>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11_amd64.deb
[11:00] <microhaxo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[11:00] <Seveas> hmm, amd64
[11:00] <bob2> microhaxo: that's not the error, scroll up
[11:00] <[v2hja] > bob2,  fglrx                 229568  0
[11:00] <zyth> microhaxo, do you have an AMD64?
[11:00] <microhaxo> Yes i do
[11:00] <bob2> microhaxo: also, paste in #flood, not here
[11:00] <microhaxo> lol
[11:00] <microhaxo> k
[11:00] <microhaxo> that is an error
[11:01] <[v2hja] > Seveas, ... there is no /etc/modules
[11:01] <microhaxo> look in #flood
[11:01] <[v2hja] > not in nautilus
[11:01] <bob2> [v2hja] : don't use nautilus then
[11:01] <Seveas> [v2hja] , there is...
[11:01] <bob2> microhaxo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[11:01] <microhaxo> k
[11:02] <bob2> actually, don't bother, fglrx64-6-8-0 was never in ubuntu
[11:02] <bob2> kunterbunt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/
[11:02] <[v2hja] > Seveas,
[11:03] <[v2hja] > i looked for a folder :D
[11:03] <[v2hja] > the last two lines are fglrx
[11:03] <kunterbunt> bob2, thanks!!
[11:04] <[v2hja] > Seveas,  does that help ?
[11:04] <bob2> microhaxo: get rid of the fglrx64-6-8-0 package
[11:04] <microhaxo> check it
[11:04] <microhaxo> bob2 check flood
[11:04] <microhaxo> i pasted it
[11:04] <microhaxo> k
[11:04] <bob2> and don't alien drivers again in future
[11:05] <microhaxo> err, waht do i search under in filemanager to remove that?
[11:05] <microhaxo> found it
[11:05] <[v2hja] > anyone ?
[11:05] <microhaxo> k bob2 its gone
[11:05] <microhaxo> now what?
[11:06] <Memorex> Moin, is it possible to use Debian/Sarge in Ubuntu?
[11:06] <lessshaste> hi... just started up the ubuntu live cd and it fails to recognise my serial mouse configuring it as ps/2 instead!!
[11:06] <lessshaste> What can I do ?
[11:07] <zyth> gack
[11:07] <lessshaste> (hoary)
[11:07] <zyth> all that to install WoW and my @#$@# account is out of TIME
[11:07] <paxor> 3rd time, Seveas .. is there a logviewer in KDE?
[11:07] <[v2hja] > bob2, or Seveas
[11:08] <goye2cz> how do I do a command to search for a file?
[11:08] <Memorex> find
[11:08] <lessshaste> how do I switch the mouse to serial?
[11:08] <goye2cz> in a terminal
[11:08] <Memorex> find / -name "filename"
[11:08] <goye2cz> thanks
[11:08] <lessshaste> goldfish, locate
[11:08] <microhaxo> Someone please help me install ati drivers, no matter what i get an error..
[11:09] <lessshaste> oop... goye2cz
[11:09] <lessshaste> microhaxo, #ati ?
[11:09] <microhaxo> no one talks
[11:09] <microhaxo> lol
[11:09] <lessshaste> well.. given that no one will help me with my mouse :)
[11:09] <microhaxo> err
[11:10] <microhaxo> i have no idea, i just installed linux today
[11:10] <microhaxo> lol
[11:10] <Memorex> microhaxo: I dont know but it could help http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[11:10] <kunterbunt> bob2, what is universe?
[11:10] <bob2> microhaxo: now follow the instructions again
[11:10] <Memorex> well, my question again: is it possible and safe to mix Ubuntu and Debian/Sarge
[11:10] <bob2> Memorex: no, don't do it
[11:11] <bob2> kunterbunt: the unsupported section of the ubuntu archive
[11:11] <kunterbunt> bob2, oh thanks
[11:11] <bob2> equivalent to all of the fedora archive, aiui
[11:12] <[v2hja] > bob2, ..... where can i look what went wrong ,,,,, cuz ut2004 kills it self after 5sec on launch and glx geast gets 361
[11:12] <microhaxo> bob2, i did waht you said, how can i install ati drivers now?
[11:12] <kunterbunt> Does ubuntu also have this mp3 restriction fedora has?
[11:12] <bob2> microhaxo: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:12] <bob2> read that again
[11:12] <bob2> and don't install random rpms on your system in future
[11:12] <bob2> kunterbunt: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:12] <microhaxo> i did, i keep getting this %$@% error
[11:13] <bob2> microhaxo: no, you didn't
[11:13] <bob2> assuming you removed the package I told you to
[11:13] <goye2cz> I'm thinking jack shouldn't be that complicated to use. Am I wrong?
[11:14] <goye2cz> with qjackctl
[11:14] <[v2hja] > bob2 at least tell me if you are going to ignore me
[11:14] <bob2> [v2hja] : ffs
[11:14] <bob2> [v2hja] : you're being too vague for anyone to help you, sorry
[11:14] <bob2> perhaps someone could extract the information from you, but I'm not going to try, sorry
[11:15] <bob2> [v2hja] : try asking on the mailing list, perhaps
[11:15] <[v2hja] > obscure: not clearly understood or expressed
[11:15] <[v2hja] > w00t
[11:15] <[v2hja] > havent got that before
[11:20] <mirkash>  Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:20] <mirkash> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[11:20] <bob2> you have apt running somewhere else
[11:20] <bob2> or it crashed or got killed very harshly
[11:21] <microhaxo> i dont get this
[11:21] <microhaxo> i did waht is on the wiki, i still cant install this DAMN ati driver, glxgears shows 144 fps
[11:21] <microhaxo> :|
[11:21] <bob2> so
[11:21] <bob2> did you get an error?
[11:22] <microhaxo> if i use the old
[11:22] <microhaxo> sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver
[11:22] <microhaxo> no error
[11:22] <microhaxo> if i use new 5.04 deal
[11:22] <microhaxo> then i get error
[11:22] <microhaxo> this = error sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[11:23] <microhaxo> However none of them give me the drivers installed lol
[11:23] <bob2> no
[11:23] <bob2> you need to show us the actual error
[11:23] <bob2> not some summary of it
[11:23] <microhaxo> k hrm
[11:23] <bob2> paste the full output to #flood
[11:24] <microhaxo> no error now :|
[11:24] <microhaxo> but
[11:24] <microhaxo> the drivers are not installed?
[11:24] <[v2hja] > wft ........ some command someone gave me here REMOVED windows from grub
[11:24] <bob2> [v2hja] : don't run commands you don't understand
[11:24] <bob2> (also, that's very unlikely)
[11:25] <bob2> Memorex: yes
[11:25] <microhaxo> bob2, i posted what is goin on in #flood, no error it seems but the drivers are not installed.
[11:25] <[v2hja] > they where copyend and pasted from here
[11:25] <[v2hja] > i guess that might be thad upgrade command
[11:25] <bob2> microhaxo: yes, they are installed
[11:25] <microhaxo> why do i get 144 FPS IN glxgears then?!
[11:25] <microhaxo> should be gettin 4000
[11:26] <microhaxo> i get 144fps in CSS!
[11:26] <bob2> I have no idea
[11:26] <bob2> I'd assume because you didn't set it up right
[11:26] <microhaxo> that means the drivers ant installed
[11:26] <microhaxo> ...
[11:26] <bob2> no, it doesn't
[11:26] <bob2> you can prove the drivers are installed, if you like
[11:26] <microhaxo> AHAH
[11:26] <microhaxo> i did
[11:26] <bob2> find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) | grep fgl
[11:26] <microhaxo> they ant installed
[11:26] <bob2> wtf
[11:26] <microhaxo> look at #flood
[11:27] <microhaxo> mesa
[11:27] <bob2> no
[11:27] <microhaxo> not ati
[11:27] <bob2> dude
[11:27] <microhaxo> mesa are original drivers
[11:27] <bob2> that means you didn't edit the X config to tell it to use ati drivers
[11:27] <microhaxo> yes i did
[11:27] <microhaxo> the xorg config
[11:27] <bob2> really?
[11:27] <bob2> paste that file to #flood
[11:27] <microhaxo> k
[11:28] <bob2> microhaxo: use a better irc client
[11:28] <microhaxo> wth
[11:28] <microhaxo> im usin konversation
[11:28] <microhaxo> came with kubuntu
[11:28] <microhaxo> lol
[11:28] <bob2> konversation is apparently crap
[11:28] <microhaxo> Lol
[11:28] <bob2> use xchat or irssi-text
[11:28] <microhaxo> i guess
[11:29] <microhaxo> anywho check flood
[11:29] <bob2> you pasted 5 lines
[11:29] <[v2hja] > bob2, ... how can i get windows back to grub
[11:29] <bob2> then your irc client got kicked off the network
[11:29] <microhaxo> where you unable to read it?
[11:29] <bob2> useful irc clients pace it so you don't get kicked off
[11:29] <microhaxo> LOL
[11:29] <microhaxo> hrm
[11:29] <bob2> you only pasted 5 lines
[11:29] <microhaxo> can i pm you it?
[11:29] <bob2> no, that won't help
[11:30] <bob2> put it on the web or something
[11:30] <microhaxo> ahh shit
[11:30] <microhaxo> did it paste more than 5?
[11:30] <bob2> no
[11:30] <microhaxo> HRM
[11:30] <microhaxo> web it is
[11:30] <bob2> also, kate is doing terrible things to your files
[11:30] <microhaxo> to me?!
[11:31] <microhaxo> who is katE?
[11:31] <bob2> look at what you're pasting
[11:31] <bob2> your files don't really have html in them
[11:31] <microhaxo> lol
[11:31] <microhaxo> yea
[11:31] <microhaxo> eh
[11:31] <microhaxo> thats my viewer
[11:31] <microhaxo> txt editor
[11:31] <microhaxo> what is a site to paste code n stuff?
[11:32] <[v2hja] > topic in #flood
[11:32] <[v2hja] > look at it :D
[11:33] <microhaxo> http://rafb.net/paste/results/drsHFG89.html
[11:33] <microhaxo> there
[11:33] <[v2hja] > 	Driver		"ati"
[11:33] <[v2hja] > wrong
[11:33] <microhaxo> Bah
[11:33] <microhaxo> what is it then
[11:33] <microhaxo> fglrx
[11:34] <[v2hja] > 	Driver		"fglrx"
[11:34] <[v2hja] > right
[11:34] <bob2> microhaxo: the instructions do explain all this...
[11:35] <microhaxo> k i saved it.
[11:35] <microhaxo> still
[11:35] <microhaxo> now what?
[11:35] <bob2> now read the instructions again
[11:35] <[v2hja] > restart X
[11:35] <microhaxo> mk
[11:35] <microhaxo> brb
[11:35] <[v2hja] > ctrl alt backspace
[11:35] <[v2hja] > bob2,
[11:36] <[v2hja] > how can i reinstall grub
[11:36] <[v2hja] > it is phked up
[11:36] <bob2> you don't need to reinstall grub
[11:36] <bob2> if windows isn't in the list anymore, it's because you broke the menu.lst
[11:36] <bob2> just fix it
[11:36] <[v2hja] > i have no idea how to to this
[11:37] <[v2hja] > some command ?
[11:37] <[v2hja] > 3 hours in ubuntu ..... and allready phked up
[11:37] <bob2> I have no idea what you did to it
[11:37] <bob2> by default it works fine
[11:37] <bob2> you need to remember what you did to break it
[11:38] <Guerin> [v2hja] : and there's also a really, really clear example in menu.list
[11:38] <[v2hja] > how can i get it back to deafult ?
[11:38] <[v2hja] > where is menu.list ?
[11:38] <Guerin> [v2hja] : /boot/grub/
[11:40] <[v2hja] > :S
[11:40] <[v2hja] > the file is emty
[11:40] <kvidell> isn't it .lst?
[11:40] <bob2> yes
[11:41] <holycow> who here was telling me about inkscape from cvs?
[11:41] <[v2hja] > yes
[11:41] <[v2hja] > found it
[11:41] <kvidell> depends.. are you happy with them or upset with them? ;)
[11:41] <[v2hja] > ubuntu is twice there
[11:41] <[v2hja] > 4 times really
[11:41] <_root_> when trying to unpack a tar.gz while running rescue, it fails,can't exec gzip
[11:41] <[v2hja] > 2 + 2
[11:42] <microhaxo> this is some bs..
[11:42] <kvidell> hm?d
[11:42] <kvidell> plus or mins the d
[11:42] <kvidell> minus
[11:42] <kvidell> christ
[11:42] <microhaxo> Now kde wont even start
[11:42] <microhaxo> WTF
[11:43] <bob2> _root_: what are you trying to do?
[11:43] <microhaxo> what the hell bob2, now its a BLACK screen, KDE wont even show...
[11:43] <microhaxo> what do i do?
[11:44] <bob2> I don't know, we can't tell what you've done
[11:44] <microhaxo> you know what i did
[11:45] <microhaxo> i REPLACED DRIVER "ati" with fglrx
[11:45] <microhaxo> in the conf file
[11:45] <bob2> you told us you'd done that before, tho
[11:45] <microhaxo> all i did was replace ati with fglrx
[11:46] <microhaxo> and then kde wouldnt work any more
[11:46] <microhaxo> how do i get kde back working
[11:46] <microhaxo> ?!
[11:46] <bob2> it has nothing to do with kde
[11:46] <microhaxo> ?
[11:46] <microhaxo> then why the hell wont it load, its just a black screen
[11:46] <bob2> ?
[11:46] <kvidell> uh... put the old driver back?
[11:46] <microhaxo> how?
[11:46] <kvidell> because you destroyed your drivers :)
[11:46] <bob2> because X presumably isn't loading
[11:46] <kvidell> the opposite of what you did before?
[11:46] <microhaxo> i cant get into kde
[11:47] <_root_> bob2 : i went to rescue mode and chrooted and tried to uncompress a tar.gz file
[11:47] <microhaxo> i dont know how to do shit command
[11:47] <kvidell> you did keep track of your steps so you could reverse engineer your way out of a bubble right?
[11:47] <kvidell> ah
[11:47] <bob2> _root_: why?
[11:47] <kvidell> no CLUE
[11:47] <microhaxo> bah
[11:47] <kvidell> (command line user experience)
[11:47] <bob2> come on people
[11:47] <microhaxo> ill pico the xorg.conf file
[11:47] <microhaxo> thats the file it was in right
[11:47] <microhaxo> i think i forgot
[11:47] <microhaxo> lol
[11:47] <bob2> microhaxo: login as your user, then edit the config file with nano
[11:47] <microhaxo> nano
[11:47] <microhaxo> so
[11:47] <_root_> bob2 : i've got an important file in my home directory and i want to uncompress it
[11:48] <microhaxo> sudo nano xorg.conf
[11:48] <bob2> _root_: so boot into your noral system
[11:48] <Guerin> _root_: man chroot?
[11:48] <Guerin> _root_: notwithstanding bob2's eminently reasonable suggestion
[11:49] <_root_> Guerin : i booted in rescue and chrooted then only i tried to run gzip
[11:49] <Guerin> _root_: did you make sure everything was mounted where you expect?
[11:50] <_root_> yes
[11:50] <_root_> Guerin : yes
[11:50] <Guerin> _root_: what... you can ls -l /bin/gzip, but not run it?
[11:53] <_root_> Guerin : yes
[11:53] <kvidell> It makes me nervous that he quit from a connection problem.
[11:53] <iluciv> hi I just installed a new kernel on my knoppmyth box need help editing lilo to boot new kernel anyone??
[11:54] <Guerin> _root_: what happen when you try to run it?
[11:54] <gallonegro> how do add programs to applications
[11:54] <gallonegro> like k3b and zsnes with using command
[11:55] <_root_> Guerin: its not exectutable
[11:55] <kvidell> iluciv: I'm not going to tell you to leave but I will tell you that this room is in almost in no way related to any of those things, so you may find it difficult to get help on that here.. I sadly have not used Lilo in years otherwise I ~would~ help you, though :-\ Best I can say is google for an example lilo.conf and always remember to run "lilo" after making changes before rebooting.
[11:55] <Nermal> is there an ubuntu channel not for n00bs ?
[11:55] <Guerin> _root_: no x bit set? What options did you mount / with?
[11:55] <Guerin> Nermal: haha
[11:55] <kvidell> Nermal: #ubuntu-dev ?
[11:55] <Nermal> rightho
[11:55] <kvidell> or the #ubuntuforums I guess
[11:55] <microhaxo> amazing
[11:56] <microhaxo> i fixed it by my self
[11:56] <microhaxo> muhaha
[11:56] <microhaxo> ok
[11:56] <microhaxo> it was the Driver "fglrx"
[11:56] <microhaxo> that was problem
[11:56] <iluciv> ok I am presently on a ubuntu box if thats any thing
[11:56] <iluciv> :)
[11:56] <microhaxo> So
[11:56] <microhaxo> bob2
[11:56] <microhaxo> i know that if i change driver ati to fglrx it will not load kde
[11:56] <microhaxo> so
[11:56] <microhaxo> wtf
[11:56] <microhaxo> lol
[11:57] <Guerin> microhaxo: so where's the problem... use the one which works.
[11:57] <Memorex> fglrx is your problem
[11:57] <Nermal> microhaxo, on the plus side, your enter key appears to work fine
[11:57] <kvidell> well.. it's not that KDE wouldn't load... your video driver blew chunks all over the place when you changed it so NOTHING graphical loaded.
[11:58] <microhaxo> lol
[11:58] <microhaxo> yea
[11:58] <microhaxo> so
[11:58] <microhaxo> what does that mean?
[11:58] <kvidell> You may not have selected the perfect driver for your device? I donno
[11:58] <Nermal> it means stop writing one or two meaningless words on a line
[11:58] <microhaxo> :|
[11:58] <Nermal> like "lol, yea, so"
[11:58] <kvidell> I'm using a stock ati kernel module because I'm not gaming on this thing..
[11:58] <microhaxo> ok, so yea
[11:59] <microhaxo> i want the best video drivers.
[11:59] <kvidell> (ish my dev laptop I do NFS mounts to my code boxes with to do on-the-road-code and webdev goodies)
[11:59] <Nermal> use windows ?
[11:59] <Nermal> or nvidia
[11:59] <kvidell> or mac. *throws gay-pride apples at Nermal*
[11:59] <Nermal> :D
[11:59] <microhaxo> i have windows
[11:59] <microhaxo> and a x800xt
[11:59] <sam2> xchat should have a filter for removing lines that simply say "lol"
[11:59] <microhaxo> works PERFECT
[11:59] <microhaxo> :D
[12:00] <Wings> ello, I have an old laptop I out ubuntu on, and it's got a D-Link DE-660 network card, anybody got any idea how to get it running?
[12:00] <kvidell> hey... I'm using a logitech 3 button mouse with a wheel on my mac :-P
[12:00] <Nermal> sam2, I find /ignore <llama> ALL works well
[12:00] <kvidell> my dual-optical pwnership
[12:00] <Nermal> Wings, pcmcia ?
[12:00] <Wings> it doesn't say that on the actual card
[12:01] <Nermal> Wings, should work with pcnet_cs
[12:01] <Nermal> according to http://www.fdlinux.com/networkcompat.html
[12:01] <Nermal> so it should work out of the box
[12:01] <sam2> Nermal, a bit drastic, but it works too.
[12:02] <Wings> that's odd
[12:02] <Wings> I plugged it in, and it couldn't connect
[12:02] <Nermal> hum..
[12:02] <Wings> does ubuntu come with pcnet_cs.o ?
[12:02] <Nermal> any dmesg output or ifconfig output
[12:02] <Nermal> Wings, of course
[12:02] <Wings> just checking
[12:04] <kvidell> Just hit it with a stick until it works. *shrugs*
[12:04] <Wings> :-/
[12:04] <Nermal> I wish I could do that to the benefit scum in the uk
[12:05] <Guerin> ...
[12:05] <kvidell> that's what brummies are for. just swat at them and they make noise.
[12:05] <pepsi> anyone using breezy?
[12:06] <kvidell> not I.
[12:06] <kvidell> :-\ not anymore anyway.
[12:06] <Nermal> me at home
[12:06] <kvidell> I'm goin' ta bed
[12:06] <iluciv> ok anyone good with vi
[12:06] <pepsi> Nermal, do usb flash drives work for you?
[12:06] <Nermal> pepsi, erm.. not tried.. but I would have thought so
[12:06] <Guybrush|Numb> iluciv: what do you mean with good ?
[12:06] <Nermal> actually.. yes they do
[12:06] <pepsi> boo
[12:07] <iluciv> I need to find a particular line in a file in vi (text editor)
[12:07] <Nermal> not you ?
[12:07] <Nermal> Ilta, /search expression
[12:07] <Nermal> iluciv, even
[12:07] <xydinesh> iluciv:try /
[12:07] <pepsi> nope
[12:07] <Nermal> iluciv: or :<line number>
[12:07] <kvidell> like.... /poo
[12:07] <kvidell> :set nu
[12:07] <pepsi> i cant mount em
[12:07] <Nermal> pepsi, dmesg output
[12:07] <iluciv> k thanks
[12:07] <Nermal> hum
[12:07] <Nermal> I've not updated for a few weeks mind
[12:07] <kvidell> anywho. detatching screen now
[12:07] <Nermal> cya kvidell
[12:08] <xydinesh> iluciv:G <line number>
[12:09] <scanwinder> what is a TV tuner card called in /dev ?..........when i run scantv it says it cant find /dev/vbi..........
[12:10] <Nermal> scanwinder, usually /dev/video0
[12:10] <Nermal> but the vbi bit is something else
[12:10] <pepsi> Nermal, http://pastebin.com/299770
[12:10] <Nermal> maybe the i2c bit banging interface needed by some vlc cards
[12:11] <scanwinder> oh........what can i do 2 fix the error then?
[12:11] <pepsi> it sees the device, but wont mount it
[12:11] <Nermal> pepsi, what does sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt give you ?
[12:12] <pepsi> Nermal, my flash drive :)
[12:12] <holycow> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  <-- i get this error when trying to compile a package... that means in need to config the make file, correct?
[12:12] <Nermal> pepsi, it worked ?
[12:12] <holycow> oh no make file found nm
[12:12] <holycow> heh
[12:12] <pepsi> yeah
[12:12] <Nermal> holycow, try running ./configure first
[12:13] <pepsi> but clicking the usb0 icon in Computer yells at me
[12:13] <pepsi> whatever.. i can mount it myself
[12:13] <microhaxo> ok
[12:13] <microhaxo> well
[12:13] <holycow> Nermal, *nod* again i guess
[12:13] <microhaxo> its DEFINATELY the ATI to fglrx driver name deal, does this mean that the drivers default with kubuntu are bad and that i need ati's driers?
[12:15] <holycow> ah i see, more dependencies >_<
[12:15] <holycow> thanks Nermal
[12:15] <Nermal> np :|
[12:15] <Nermal> holycow, what package is it ?
[12:16] <jind> Hm, I have a strange behaviour here. A browser (Opera) sometimes suddenly exits. Have only seen this behaviour in Ubuntu. Any idea why?
[12:16] <microhaxo> SOO, someone help meh
[12:16] <xydinesh> yes, micro Ill try
[12:16] <microhaxo> k :D
[12:16] <xydinesh> :D
[12:16] <microhaxo> i have had a MAJOr problem installing ATI drivers
[12:16] <microhaxo> major
[12:16] <Nermal> xydinesh, a braver man than me
[12:16] <microhaxo> like 6 hours of trying
[12:17] <Seveas> microhaxo, you want a working xorg.conf?
[12:17] <microhaxo> mine works
[12:17] <Seveas> i can give you mine (it works)
[12:17] <xydinesh> :D not at all
[12:17] <microhaxo> but
[12:17] <microhaxo> if i change driver from
[12:17] <microhaxo> "Ati"
[12:17] <microhaxo> to
[12:17] <microhaxo> Fglrx
[12:17] <microhaxo> i get black screen
[12:17] <microhaxo> :|
[12:17] <holycow> Nermal, trying to compile inkscape from cvs
[12:17] <Seveas> microhaxo, i have one that works with fglrx :)
[12:17] <microhaxo> Err
[12:17] <Seveas> ubuntu-provided fglrx
[12:17] <microhaxo> but wont the monitor be off?
[12:17] <microhaxo> sure send it to me
[12:18] <holycow> i'm curious, someone mentioned it has some neat features
[12:18] <Seveas> microhaxo, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/76
[12:18] <microhaxo> k
[12:19] <xydinesh> micorhaxo, once I got that problem I was able to get rid of by using dpkg-reconfigure
[12:19] <rob^> does anyone know a good apt source I can get azureus from?
[12:19] <rob^> and the java packages
[12:19] <xydinesh> microhaxo, in my debian box
[12:20] <microhaxo> wow
[12:20] <microhaxo> it worked
[12:20] <Seveas> rob^: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[12:20] <microhaxo> lol
[12:20] <xabbu> Great, I jjust love my computer. I wake up this morning turn on my computer and I notice the screen i yellow...  If it can give 1024x768, then copy
[12:21] <xydinesh> /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to your hard disk (to the same place). That's
[12:21] <xydinesh> all and it's simple. Disadvantage is, you'll never learn how to
[12:21] <xydinesh> configure your vga ;-p
[12:21] <Seveas> do not paste in here
[12:21] <microhaxo> lol
[12:21] <Seveas> and do not give wrong instructions :)
[12:21] <microhaxo> muhahah
[12:21] <microhaxo> i have stayed up all night for 7000fps of GEAR ACTION
[12:21] <microhaxo> YEA!
[12:21] <microhaxo> finally
[12:21] <rob^> Seveas, what depository do I get java-package from?
[12:22] <Iaidoka> microhaxo: tweaking the graphics?
[12:22] <Seveas> from ubuntu multiverse rob^
[12:22] <Seveas> rob^, there are also pre-mada java packages in the backports repositories, but backports is an ill-advised way to go
[12:23] <GNULinuxer> what is the name of the xorg devel packages?
[12:23] <rob^> thanks Seveas
[12:23] <Seveas> xlibs-dev
[12:23] <Seveas> or whatever you need :)
[12:24] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, what are you trying to compile?
[12:24] <xydinesh> seveas, Sorry every one Its quite loon dats y I pasted it
[12:24] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, Beagle
[12:24] <xydinesh> quite long I mean
[12:24] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, have you followed the instructions on the beaglewiki or ubuntu wiki?
[12:24] <Seveas> they both have good instructions to get beagle working
[12:24] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, yes, but it needs scrnsaver.h
[12:24] <Seveas> hold on
[12:25] <Seveas> GNULinuxer, libxss-dev
[12:25] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, you mean libxssl-dev
[12:26] <Seveas> no
[12:26] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-file search scrnsaver.h
[12:26] <Seveas> libxss-dev: usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions/scrnsaver.h
[12:26] <Seveas> libxss-dev
[12:27] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, yeah ... but the main pacakge is called libxssl but the dev package is libxss-dev
[12:28] <Seveas> :)
[12:30] <microhaxo> guys i dloaded flash player 7
[12:30] <microhaxo> how do i install it?
[12:30] <microhaxo> apt-get or somthin?
[12:30] <scanwinder> how do i make xawtv use the channels that scantv picked up?
[12:30] <Seveas> microhaxo, downloaded from where?
[12:30] <Seveas> not the macromedia site i hope
[12:30] <microhaxo> micromedia flash
[12:30] <microhaxo> lmao
[12:30] <microhaxo> why?
[12:30] <Nermal> microhaxo, read ubuntuguide.org
[12:30] <Seveas> because that's been a useless download and you can toss it out ;)
[12:31] <Seveas> microhaxo, aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:31] <Nermal> fewl
[12:31] <Seveas> that'll install the ubuntu version
[12:31] <Nermal> :)
[12:31] <Seveas> make sure you have multiverse enabled
[12:31] <Seveas> Nermal, ubuntuguide is not good
[12:31] <Seveas> refer to the wiki instead
[12:31] <Nermal> Seveas, justification?
[12:32] <microhaxo> err
[12:32] <microhaxo> do i need to run mozilla
[12:32] <Seveas> Nermal, misinformation, suboptimal solutions, no explanations, no cooperation of the author with others...
[12:32] <microhaxo> i like
[12:32] <microhaxo> konqueror
[12:32] <Nermal> microhaxo, no
[12:32] <Nermal> ugh
[12:32] <Nermal> Seveas, ah
[12:32] <Seveas> konqueror & flash is a no-go afaik, but i don't use KrapDE so I can very well be wrong here
[12:32] <microhaxo> that didnt work
[12:33] <microhaxo> lol
[12:33] <microhaxo> eh
[12:33] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, which package is  gmime-sharp?
[12:33] <GNULinuxer> Seveas, it requires gmime-sharp.pc
[12:34] <microhaxo> k
[12:34] <microhaxo> how do i install firefox
[12:34] <microhaxo> then
[12:34] <microhaxo> ?
[12:35] <mindspin> with synaptic
[12:35] <otep> apt-get install mozilla?
[12:35] <Myrtti> mozilla-firefox
[12:35] <tonio_> hi
[12:35] <bob2> firefox is already installed
[12:35] <s00d> Hi. Can anybody help me with some security issues? Yesterday, Firefox started by itself, and loaded random pages, which I had never been to. I was wondering if it is plausible that somebody can be using a VNC type program on my computer? (I am only semi computer literate)
[12:35] <microhaxo> where?
[12:35] <microhaxo> i cant see it in internet?
[12:36] <Seveas> microhaxo, aptitude install mozilla-firefox
[12:37] <Seveas> s00d, only if you have enabled the VNC server, it's not on by default
[12:37] <we2by> any on ehere use 64bit cpu ?
[12:37] <bob2> we2by: lots of people do
[12:37] <bob2> I have an alpha heree next to me
[12:38] <we2by> I wonder how many app there is for 64bit cpu
[12:38] <bob2> do you mean "amd64"?
[12:38] <s00d> Seveas, so is there any other possibility that my box was broken into?
[12:38] <bob2> amd64 is but one of the many 64-bit cpus Linux runs on
[12:39] <Seveas> s00d, very unlikely on a default Ubuntu install
[12:39] <we2by> bob2, yep
[12:39] <bob2> we2by: do you care about binary-only crap?
[12:39] <we2by> bob2, I am more concerned about the app I need
[12:39] <bob2> e.g. flash, windows software, etc
[12:40] <s00d> seveas, is there any further reading you could point me to?
[12:40] <we2by> bob2, I need flash
[12:41] <we2by> windows software on linux? nope
[12:41] <we2by> I use vmware for that
[12:41] <Seveas> we2by, there's no flash for amd64
[12:41] <bob2> then use windows
[12:41] <bob2> even on i386 linux flash is unstable and annoying
[12:41] <Seveas> yeah...
[12:41] <we2by> flash is optional though
[12:42] <microhaxo> guys
[12:42] <Nermal> hush
[12:42] <microhaxo> that flash deal didnt work, flash didnt load in firefox?
[12:42] <we2by> bob2, are there separated repo for 64bit ubuntu?
[12:42] <Nermal> microhaxo, you install mozilla-flashplayer ?
[12:42] <bob2> we2by: no
[12:42] <Nermal> and firefox ?
[12:42] <microhaxo> aptitude install flashplayer-mozilla
[12:42] <microhaxo> that?
[12:42] <microhaxo> yea
[12:43] <Nermal> oh
[12:43] <microhaxo> and i still get the plugin deal
[12:43] <Nermal> ah well
[12:43] <we2by> bob2, how do I install app then?
[12:43] <Nermal> flash is useful for nothing anyway
[12:43] <microhaxo> hah
[12:43] <bob2> we2by: same as on i386 and ppc
[12:43] <Nermal> you restarted firefox ?
[12:43] <bob2> microhaxo: did it actually install it?
[12:43] <we2by> bob2, do u think those app run on 64bit cpu?
[12:44] <bob2> we2by: I don't know what you mean by "those"
[12:44] <we2by> xmms, xine firefox open office etc
[12:44] <bob2> yes, they're all ported to amd64
[12:44] <bob2> you can't (Easily) use windows dlls with xine, tho
[12:45] <shovel> Hey, can womeone recommend some programs for me, I want a program to edit the artist and title info inside an OGG file... And also another to convert mp3 to OGG!
[12:45] <shovel> thtanks
[12:45] <bob2> don't convert mp3 to ogg, it's silly
[12:45] <Guerin> shovel: you don't want to convert mp3 to ogg.
[12:45] <bob2> you can use vorbiscomment to edit the metadata in ogg files
[12:45] <Guerin> shovel: easytag can probably do the other thing.
[12:45] <shovel> ok will look at vorbiscomment and easytag
[12:45] <shovel> thanks
[12:46] <forsaker8k6> hello everybody
[12:46] <Nermal> hello darling
[12:46] <forsaker8k6> a question: how do i ad an e17 session to gdm?
[12:46] <shovel> The only reason I wanted to convert mp3 to OGG is ALL of my music is in OGG but I have 3 CDs that are scratched and I have got them off someone in mp3 and thought it would be best to have everything in ogg
[12:47] <we2by> bob2, does gnome work on 64bit cpu?
[12:47] <forsaker8k6> (or even how do i change gdm with entrance? )
[12:47] <microhaxo> what the hell
[12:47] <microhaxo> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:47] <forsaker8k6> add*
[12:47] <microhaxo>        Macromedia Flash Player installer.
[12:47] <bob2> we2by: please stop saying "64bit cpu" when you mean "amd64", they mean very different things
[12:47] <microhaxo> is there any way to install linux!?
[12:47] <microhaxo> lol
[12:47] <microhaxo> im tired as hell
[12:47] <bob2> microhaxo: talk to macromedia about porting it to amd64 for you
[12:47] <we2by> the problem is that I'm still not sure what I buy
[12:47] <microhaxo> lmao
[12:47] <microhaxo> so im fubar?
[12:48] <bob2> you could install the i386 version of ubuntu
[12:48] <bob2> how much do you care?
[12:48] <bob2> we2by: yes, gnome works on amd64
[12:48] <Guerin> microhaxo: run a browser and your flash plugin in a 32-bit chroot
[12:48] <forsaker8k6> no idea about what i asked?
[12:49] <bob2> forsaker8k6: look in /etc/X11/sessions
[12:50] <tmjb> hello
[12:51] <xabbu> Is there any hardware channels on freenode?
[12:51] <Guerin> xabbu: #hardware comes to mind
[12:51] <forsaker8k6> bob2, thank you.. but there's only an Xsession file in /etc/x11/ and i can't find nothing usefull in it... could someone help me?
[12:51] <Guerin> bizarre as that may seem
[12:51] <xabbu> Guerin, Thanks... :P
[12:51] <tmjb> does exist any easy way to download  all multiverse packges for Hoary 5.04
[12:52] <hussam> I've been building firefox from cvs on aviary branch. Other than compiler cpu optimizations such as -O2, are there any performace patches to make firefox faster on linux? It seems a bit faster on windows than on linux.
[12:52] <bob2> forsaker8k6: copy /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.deskto to /etc/X11/sessions/ and modify it
[12:53] <Seveas> tmjb, why would you want that..?
[12:53] <tmjb> and why is (not free) to have ogg on ubunutu in standard edition
[12:53] <forsaker8k6> tnx bob2 i'll try
[12:53] <forsaker8k6> :)
[12:53] <Seveas> tmjb, ogg is by default usable in Ubuntu...
[12:54] <bob2> tmjb: er, you mean "mp3"?
[12:54] <tmjb> bob2,no ogg
[12:54] <Guerin> ...
[12:54] <NicP> ogg is installed by default
[12:54] <bob2> tmjb: ubuntu's default install includes just about ever ogg tool you can imagine
[12:54] <NicP> yep
[12:54] <bob2> hussam: you'd be better off asking the mozilla people, I'd think
[12:54] <tmjb> what about infamose mplayer
[12:55] <NicP> mplayer isnt installed
[12:55] <tmjb> how can i watch my dvd
[12:55] <NicP> but its not an ogg tool
[12:55] <NicP> its a universal player
[12:55] <NicP> dvds should play in totem
[12:55] <bob2> tmjb: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:55] <tmjb> oh tnx
[12:55] <NicP> yeah u will have to dl the codec first tho
[12:55] <bob2> mplayer isn't installed by default, because a) it implements patented codecs and b) it's unclear whether its distributable by anyone at all
[12:56] <tmjb> i am in europe I do not have Software Patents
[12:56] <NicP> you will soon
[12:56] <NicP> lol
[12:56] <shovel> Guerin: Easaytag is perfect thanks
[12:57] <bob2> I'm pretty sure the mp3 patent is enforced in germany, at least
[12:57] <Guerin> shovel: bonza mate.
[12:59] <mindspin> bob, not the patent just the frauenhofer codec afaik
[01:00] <tmjb> bob2,Not in Serbian and Montenegro
[01:01] <Guerin> tmjb: serbia and montenegro also isn't in EUrope...
[01:01] <Guerin> mindspin: you mean the PATENTED codec?
[01:02] <mindspin> serbia and nontenegro is definately europe
[01:02] <mindspin> yep
[01:02] <Guerin> mindspin: not EUrope, though.
[01:02] <mindspin> goz you
[01:02] <mindspin> got you
[01:02] <Seveas> EU-rope :)
[01:02] <DunkMaster> hello
[01:02] <mindspin> EU
[01:02] <Seveas> nice one
[01:02] <Guerin> Seveas: enough rope?
[01:02] <Seveas> the strangling rope of the EU
[01:03] <DunkMaster> i need help
[01:03] <DunkMaster> my ubuntu wont load, because it says that no screens found
[01:03] <mindspin> nonsense, a strong EU would be the best
[01:03] <DunkMaster> i think its xorg.conf
[01:03] <DunkMaster> how can i fix it?
[01:03] <Seveas> mindspin, let's not have that discussion in here, this is not #politics
[01:03] <mindspin> sure
[01:03] <Guerin> mindspin: if it wasn't evil(TM)
[01:03] <Guerin> yeah
[01:04] <microhaxo> yo guys, i just dloaded a FREE linux game, AMERICAS ARMY, how can i install it? its in the home dir..
[01:04] <mindspin> seveas you started it ;-)
[01:04] <Guerin> microhaxo: read the documentation on the site from which you downloaded it?
[01:04] <Guerin> (just an idea)
[01:04] <Seveas> mindspin, shh :)
[01:04] <Seveas> Guerin, if only everybody was that smart ;)
[01:04] <DunkMaster> please
[01:04] <microhaxo> its a .run file\
[01:04] <microhaxo> they dont have any docs on it
[01:04] <Seveas> microhaxo, chmod +x blablabla.run
[01:04] <microhaxo> its a port
[01:05] <Seveas> ./blablabal.run
[01:05] <Nermal> microhaxo, GFL
[01:05] <microhaxo> l
[01:05] <microhaxo> ;p;
[01:05] <microhaxo> lol
[01:05] <microhaxo> i am a die hard windows user but, i think i like this linux
[01:05] <Nermal> I wish you would die hard
[01:05] <microhaxo> lol
[01:05] <Nermal> sorry I meant to think that
[01:05] <Nermal> ah well
[01:05] <NicP> i hate windows
[01:06] <tmjb> Why Is ubuntu DVD bigger
[01:06] <microhaxo> err
[01:06] <Guerin> tmjb: because it's got more stuff on it
[01:06] <microhaxo> cuz it has more stuff in it
[01:06] <mindspin> I would have some more windows in my house ;-)
[01:06] <microhaxo> damn you
[01:06] <Guerin> tmjb: naturally
[01:06] <Guerin> heh
[01:06] <NicP> i have a thing against windows, because my friends are always getting spyware and viruses so i have to fix them
[01:06] <Seveas> tmjb, because it contains the complete main repositories
[01:06] <NicP> plus 90% of my junk mail is windows viruses
[01:07] <tmjb> Guerin,more .debs or source codes
[01:07] <Guerin> tmjb: both, I expect.
[01:07] <Guerin> tmjb: of course, your question is meaningless unless you specify what it has more THAN.
[01:08] <DunkMaster> please, can i get some help?
[01:08] <microhaxo> yo
[01:08] <Xabbu|> DunkMaster, whats the problem?
[01:08] <DunkMaster> my ubuntu wont load, because it says that no screens found
[01:08] <Guerin> DunkMaster: what video card?
[01:08] <DunkMaster> i think its xorg.conf
[01:08] <microhaxo> neither of those commands installed this game
[01:08] <microhaxo> its a .run
[01:08] <microhaxo> how can i execute it
[01:08] <DunkMaster> its ATi
[01:08] <microhaxo> ./ didnt work
[01:08] <DunkMaster> 2mb
[01:08] <microhaxo> neither did chmod
[01:09] <Seveas> microhaxo, if you do what i said, it'll work
[01:09] <Guerin> microhaxo: run file whateveritscalled.run
[01:09] <Lumpio-> Hi. I'm having some trouble with my wlan thing (again). Everything has worked beautifully before so I know everything's supported. But yesterday, everything just stopped working. I can't even get the wlan card to find my AP. I've tried fiddling with my wlan config and the APs config, resetting everything etc but to no avail. I'm not really experienced at this so I don't have any more ideas.
[01:09] <Seveas> chmod makes it executable
[01:09] <microhaxo> i did
[01:09] <Lumpio-> Anybody else got any ideas? :\
[01:09] <Seveas> ./filename.run runs it
[01:09] <microhaxo> chmod: cannot access `armyops230-linux.run': No such file or direct
[01:09] <Guerin> microhaxo: you have to tell it WHERE the file is
[01:09] <NicP> are u in the right directory?
[01:09] <Seveas> microhaxo, then you made a typo...
[01:09] <Guerin> strange as this may seem
[01:09] <shovel> no enter 'run' the filename
[01:09] <shovel> then
[01:10] <microhaxo> omg
[01:10] <microhaxo> opens it into kate
[01:10] <microhaxo> txt editor
[01:10] <Seveas> muha :)
[01:10] <microhaxo> lol
[01:10] <microhaxo> wth
[01:10] <Seveas> that's why you don't want to do that
[01:10] <microhaxo> this is at my desktop
[01:11] <microhaxo> why wont it run
[01:11] <microhaxo> lol
[01:11] <Seveas> microhaxo, in the shell go to the correct dir
[01:11] <Seveas> then type the chmod command
[01:11] <Seveas> and the ./bla.run
[01:11] <DunkMaster> bah
[01:12] <DunkMaster> :(
[01:12] <paxon> Can't use sudo :( semms like /etc/sudoers is damaged.  One of the win98 boxen at my work has a copy of the /etc/passwd file from the main gateway on its desktop :|
[01:20] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> wow the new ati driver install is nice
[01:21] <Seveas> Pop_pa_FrEaK, too bad they wasted their time with that instead of creating good drivers
[01:21] <microhaxo> BAH
[01:21] <r3d0xXuS``> hmm then i start my ask: i have on this PC installed WINDOWS XP, so i want ubuntu as my 2nd O/S system. its able to install as 2nd system without deleting my partition of winXP?
[01:21] <microhaxo> i SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS
[01:21] <microhaxo> with that driver
[01:21] <microhaxo> ...
[01:21] <microhaxo> and seveas could have ended my sorrow in 2 seconds
[01:22] <microhaxo> ..
[01:22] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, yes
[01:22] <Seveas> the ubuntu installer will detect windows xp and setup dual-booting
[01:22] <microhaxo> yep
[01:22] <microhaxo> very nicely
[01:22] <microhaxo> unlike REDHAT
[01:22] <microhaxo> ...
[01:22] <r3d0xXuS``> ok i try :o
[01:23] <Whistler> is there any way to fast swich between desktops?
[01:23] <Whistler> like alt+tab
[01:23] <r3d0xXuS``> see u later
[01:23] <Seveas> Whistler, what do you mean?
[01:23] <r3d0xXuS``> ill be back
[01:23] <microhaxo> dude, it sucks that i cant axx my ntfs partitions, i wanna get my music off of em and put em on here
[01:23] <Lumpio-> Ctrl+Alt+right/left arrow I guess, Whistler
[01:23] <Seveas> ah, you can setup keybindings for that
[01:23] <Lumpio-> At least I think that's the default setting
[01:23] <Whistler> lumpio thx
[01:23] <Whistler> =]
[01:23] <Seveas> microhaxo, you can easily read from NTFS partitions
[01:23] <Lumpio-> Otherwise, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:23] <microhaxo> how
[01:23] <microhaxo> i get errror
[01:23] <microhaxo> with broken glass
[01:23] <Seveas> one sec
[01:24] <Seveas> ah you mounted them already?
[01:24] <microhaxo> mounted them?
[01:24] <Seveas> you cannot *write* to ntfs though...
[01:24] <Seveas> microhaxo, hang on
[01:24] <microhaxo> i wanna TAKE
[01:24] <microhaxo> from
[01:25] <misaka> So, just how stable is breezy anyway?
[01:25] <Seveas> microhaxo, download http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dkaarsem/windows_fstab and run it
[01:26] <microhaxo> k
[01:26] <Guerin> misaka: topic
[01:26] <misaka> Safe enough to switch my desktop over to it?
[01:26] <Seveas> that'll enable you to access ntfs
[01:26] <Seveas> somwhere under /media/
[01:26] <misaka> Guerin - Sorry, it's cut-off on my client.
[01:26] <Seveas> misaka, no
[01:26] <Guerin> misaka: type /topic
[01:26] <Seveas> misaka, breezy is very unstable
[01:26] <microhaxo> seveas how do i dl it, linux ALWAYS opens the source
[01:26] <microhaxo> lol
[01:26] <misaka> Right, got it. ;]
[01:26] <Seveas> file -> save as
[01:26] <misaka> Are we talking unbootable-unstable?
[01:26] <misaka> Or just don't expect GNOME to work unstable?
[01:26] <Pop_pa_FrEaK> brb gotta reboot
[01:27] <Seveas> misaka, not-starting-x unstable and lotsa-programs-not-working unstable
[01:27] <misaka> Seveas - Cool. Thanks.
[01:27] <Seveas> and occasionally unbootable-unstable too :)
[01:27] <misaka> Seveas - That's the one that hurts the most.
[01:27] <Whistler> is it possible to drag prog from one desktop to another?
[01:28] <Seveas> Whistler, no, but you can setup keybindings for that too :D
[01:28] <yangguang> ??
[01:28] <Seveas> and a rightclick on the menubar will also reveal some moving-niceness
[01:28] <Seveas>
[01:28] <Lumpio-> You can drag the mini-windows on the workspace selector
[01:28] <misaka> Is there a repository one can use to grab Firefox 1.0.4? Or is it expected one will just snag the tarball/deb (if available) for it?
[01:28] <Lumpio-> But it's kinda hard to hit small ones :P
[01:28] <Seveas> misaka, FF in ubuntu IS 1.0.4
[01:28] <Seveas> it only has the wrong verion number...
[01:29] <visor> hey ppl i just have seen Batman Begins, im just excited its not like a big deal to you i know :P
[01:29] <misaka> Seveas - Hrm. Both the deb version number and the 'About Firefox' versions show 1.0.2.
[01:29] <Seveas> misaka, i know
[01:30] <misaka> Seveas - So those are innacurate?
[01:30] <Seveas> it's 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 securoty patches applied patches
[01:30] <Seveas> okay that line sucked...
[01:30] <Seveas> it's 1.0.2 with all 1.0.4 security patches applied
[01:30] <misaka> Seveas - I see. Cool.
[01:30] <misaka> Except that the bloody dom inspector isn't working and I can't quite sort out why. ;]
[01:31] <Seveas> hehe :)
[01:31] <Lumpio-> I couldn't get it to appear on the version installed via apt
[01:31] <misaka> Trying to update any of the installed extensions says that I need to have FF 1.0.4 to access the updates.
[01:31] <Lumpio-> I thought it had to be enabled in the installer?
[01:31] <Seveas> isn;t it an extension?
[01:31] <misaka> ^^^ not cool.
[01:31] <Seveas> misaka ah :)
[01:31] <Seveas> misaka: Open firefox and in about:config set general.useragent.vendorSub to 1.0.4
[01:32] <Seveas> and you will have access to the extensions again :)
[01:32] <misaka> heh. Hadn't thought of that. Won't that risk breaking other things though?
[01:32] <Seveas> not at all
[01:33] <Lumpio-> Meh, I'll go bash my AP around a bit, maybe it'll start working :I
[01:33] <misaka> Seveas - Is the diff between 1.0.2 and 1.0.4 only security patches? Nothing that might break an extension?
[01:33] <Seveas> yes
[01:33] <misaka> Seveas - Ok, thanks for everything, I'm going to give that a go.
[01:33] <misaka> I can always toast my ~/.firefox dir in case of anything.
[01:33] <r3d0xXuS``> seveas?
[01:33] <Seveas> misaka, this step is even recommended by ff developers :)
[01:34] <Seveas> yes?
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> Seveas i need ur help really
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> i put my cd into drive
[01:34] <Seveas> with what?
[01:34] <Seveas> ah
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> and it came ubuntu installer
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> ok he checked hardware and network
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> so then came a window with partition
[01:34] <r3d0xXuS``> so what must i do there
[01:35] <Seveas> do you already have an empty partition for linux or not?
[01:35] <r3d0xXuS``> not
[01:35] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, do you have partition magic?
[01:35] <r3d0xXuS``> no i ll download now wait
[01:35] <r3d0xXuS``> i know this
[01:35] <Seveas> ok
[01:35] <Seveas> how much memory do you have?
[01:35] <r3d0xXuS``> hdd?
[01:35] <Seveas> no, memory
[01:36] <r3d0xXuS``> ram?
[01:36] <Seveas> yes
[01:36] <r3d0xXuS``> 512
[01:36] <r3d0xXuS``> mb
[01:36] <Seveas> ok
[01:36] <r3d0xXuS``> ddr2
[01:36] <Seveas> you need 2 partitions for linux:
[01:36] <Seveas> 1 of about 512 MB for swap
[01:36] <microhaxo> PURE
[01:36] <microhaxo> bull
[01:36] <Seveas> and 1 that's as big as you want it (recommended at least a few gb) for the rest
[01:36] <microhaxo> Second time checkism is BAD
[01:36] <microhaxo> wth is goin on here!
[01:36] <Seveas> microhaxo, :|
[01:36] <microhaxo> omg im goin to sleep
[01:37] <microhaxo> ill figure it out later
[01:37] <r3d0xXuS``> Seveas my hdds are
[01:37] <r3d0xXuS``> hdd (free): 164.72/393.88GB (41.8%)
[01:37] <r3d0xXuS``> :o
[01:37] <Seveas> :)
[01:38] <r3d0xXuS``> got 5 hdds
[01:38] <Seveas> then give it 10 gb or so, you can install a lot then ;)
[01:38] <r3d0xXuS``> *lol*
[01:38] <Seveas> 5hdds?
[01:38] <r3d0xXuS``> yah :)
[01:38] <Seveas> why not make 1 a linux hdd>
[01:38] <r3d0xXuS``> sure that i want try that :P
[01:38] <Seveas> so wipe all of it and install linux on that  one
[01:38] <Seveas> ah ok
[01:38] <TheNose> hi! i have a problem with a cd burner! it is connected over usb! can somebody help me?
[01:38] <Seveas> well, wipe one hdd empty then :)
[01:39] <Seveas> and create the 2 partitions i mentioned
[01:39] <Seveas> the swap at the beginning is best
[01:39] <r3d0xXuS``> *starting partitionMagic*
[01:40] <Seveas> are you mixing SATA and IDE disks?
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> all IDE :)
[01:40] <Seveas> hmm
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> over RAID controller
[01:40] <Seveas> ah :)
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> hm
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> only empty partition?
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> or FAT / FAT32/ NTFS ?
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> for the linux
[01:40] <Seveas> yeah, 2 empty partitions
[01:40] <r3d0xXuS``> why 2 ?
[01:41] <Seveas> if you want, you can let PM make the swap partition linux swap
[01:41] <Seveas> and the other linx ext3
[01:41] <Seveas> the swap is for virtual memory
[01:41] <bwlang> r3d0xXuS``: you don't have to have a swap parition... you can use  a swap file instead
[01:41] <r3d0xXuS``> :o
[01:41] <Seveas> bwlang, nonsense...
[01:41] <r3d0xXuS``> what if i i use only 1 partition? :o
[01:41] <bwlang> Seveas: i run that way on raid systems...
[01:41] <Seveas> bwlang, loop-mounted filesystem?
[01:42] <moparfan90> hello
[01:42] <bwlang> Seveas: /swapfile       none            swap    defaults        0       0
[01:42] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, you *need* swap, virtual memory is absolutely needed
[01:42] <r3d0xXuS``> ok then
[01:42] <bwlang> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=youpickthe size
[01:42] <bwlang> mkswap /swapfile
[01:42] <moparfan90> i have been trying to get ubuntu for a day with no sleep. now it works but with alot of errors
[01:42] <Seveas> swapon /swapfile ..?
[01:43] <bwlang> Seveas: yep
[01:43] <Seveas> hmm
[01:43] <Seveas> i stand corrected
[01:43] <r3d0xXuS``> Linux EXT2 or LINUX EXT3 ?
[01:43] <Seveas> ext3
[01:43] <bwlang> Seveas: and you don't NEED swap... on my systems with lots of memory (like 12G) swap is useless
[01:43] <Seveas> bwlang, i know
[01:43] <Seveas> but he has 512MB :)
[01:43] <Seveas> so he NEEDS it
[01:43] <moparfan90> when you guys installed ubuntu did you have to go into a mwnu to get updated packages from errors??
[01:43] <DunkMaster> yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:43] <Monkness> hi can someone help me
[01:43] <Monkness> plz
[01:43] <Seveas> moparfan90, no
[01:44] <Seveas> moparfan90, are you in the US?
[01:44] <moparfan90> o
[01:44] <DunkMaster> i got the beast working again
[01:44] <r3d0xXuS``> ok
[01:44] <Seveas> nice DunkMaster
[01:44] <bwlang> Monkness: just ask your questaion... lay off key repeat
[01:44] <moparfan90> then why did i im having alot of errors
[01:44] <Monkness> how do i install a .deb file?
[01:44] <DunkMaster> :)
[01:44] <r3d0xXuS``> then another empty partition @ Seveas?
[01:44] <r3d0xXuS``> too ext3 ?
[01:44] <Monkness> im a noob at ubuntu
[01:44] <Seveas> Monkness, dpkg -i blabla.deb
[01:44] <Monkness> ok
[01:44] <DunkMaster> i will brb, need to reboot, just got in
[01:44] <bwlang> Monkness: if you prefer gui you could use synaptic
[01:44] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, the large partition should be ext3
[01:44] <misaka> Does anyone else have the DOM Inspector grayed out in Firefox 1.0.2?
[01:45] <Seveas> the small 512 mb one linux swap
[01:45] <r3d0xXuS``> and the small unformated?
[01:45] <Monkness> one more thing, i got a source file for xmms but i get a glib error saying its not installed althought when i checked synaptic it seems installed
[01:45] <Seveas> Monkness, source file..?
[01:45] <Monkness> source as it the tar
[01:45] <Seveas> Monkness, what are you installing with the .deb by the way?
[01:45] <Monkness> *as in
[01:45] <Seveas> Monkness, you don't need that
[01:45] <Monkness> Seveas : vlc media player
[01:45] <misaka> Monkness - You may need the -dev package for glib, but you should probably just install the xmms binary package.
[01:45] <r3d0xXuS``> Seveas what do with small unformated partition
[01:45] <moparfan90> it said that there was errors in some of the packages use this program to get new ones. and i had to download the whole ubuntu thing again file by file.
[01:45] <Seveas> you can simply use synaptic to install it from the repositories
[01:46] <Seveas> Monkness, do NOT manually istall vlc
[01:46] <Seveas> simply use synapti for that
[01:46] <Monkness> Seveas : then what do i do
[01:46] <Monkness> so i start up synaptic then
[01:46] <Monkness> load the .deb file?
[01:46] <Seveas> Monkness: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:46] <r3d0xXuS``> Seveas what do with small unformated partition
[01:46] <Seveas> reead that and enable universe
[01:46] <Monkness> thanks
[01:46] <Seveas> then start synaptic
[01:46] <Seveas> and use the search function
[01:46] <moparfan90> ok. i have to go.
[01:47] <moparfan90> bye
[01:47] <Seveas> the small 512 mb one should be linux swap r3d0xXuS``
[01:47] <Monkness> or how do i install xvid/mp3 so that i can use totem to play?
[01:47] <bwlang> Monkness: stay away from tarballs... just use prepackaged stuff until you are experienced enough to build your own pacakges...  by installing from source code you destroy much of the value of a package manager like dpkg/apt
[01:47] <r3d0xXuS``> ok
[01:47] <r3d0xXuS``> ill install nu
[01:47] <r3d0xXuS``> brb
[01:47] <Monkness> k ta bwlang
[01:47] <Seveas> Monkness: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats
[01:47] <misaka> Nice signoff.
[01:48] <Monkness> how do i install a theme
[01:48] <Monkness> ?
[01:48] <misaka> So, sorry to repeat myself, but just to make sure ... nobody's seen the DOM Inspector disabled in the web developer menu in Firefox?
[01:48] <Monkness> want to change the look for ubuntu
[01:48] <Seveas> Monkness, go to gnome-look.org and download themes then
[01:48] <Seveas> see art.gnome.org too
[01:48] <Seveas> art.gnome.org/faq.php tells you how to install themes
[01:49] <bwlang> misaka: i don't even know what you're talking about - i don't have a web developer menu
[01:49] <Monkness> how do i load it up?
[01:49] <Monkness> just use gnome?
[01:49] <misaka> bwlang - Tools -> Web Developer -> Miscellaneous
[01:49] <Monkness> soz about the lame questions
[01:49] <Monkness> but just starting out :>
[01:49] <bwlang> misaka: you must have some extension ... i don't have that
[01:50] <misaka> bwlang - Hrm. Thought that was part of the default FF install now, guess not.
[01:50] <Seveas> Monkness, read what i said and visit the 3 urls i gave you
[01:50] <Monkness> Seveas i dont get what universe means
[01:51] <trygvebw> Hi
[01:51] <trygvebw> Any initng users here?
[01:51] <Seveas> Monkness, read the AddingRepositoriesHowto, universe is a component of the Ubuntu distribution. See www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components for the details
[01:52] <Monkness> k
[01:52] <Monkness> thanks
[01:53] <misaka> bwlang - Hey, just thought of something, does Ctrl-Shift-I do anything for you in Firefox on a webpage?
[01:54] <Seveas> nope
[01:54] <Seveas> and the web developer menu / toolbar work fine here on Ubuntu FF
[01:54] <misaka> Seveas - Is the Dom Inspector available through the menus though?
[01:55] <bwlang> misaka: no
[01:56] <misaka> bwlang - *nod*
[01:56] <Monkness> is mplayer in universe?
[01:56] <Monkness> i mean do i need to download it
[01:56] <Seveas> i don't have that installed :)
[01:56] <Seveas> Monkness, it's in multiverse
[01:56] <Monkness> or can i just use synaptic to install it
[01:56] <Seveas> so you can use synaptic
[01:56] <Monkness> whats a multiverse...
[01:56] <Monkness> sigh this nakes no sense
[01:56] <Seveas> multiverse is another component :)
[01:57] <Monkness> so i dont need to download it?
[01:57] <DunkMaster> ok, back
[01:57] <misaka> Seveas - ;]  ... neither do I, and it seems to depend on mozilla-firefox (= 1.0.2-0ubuntu5) ... I have -0ubuntu5.3 installed.
[01:57] <misaka> argh.
[01:57] <DunkMaster> but still have a problem
[01:57] <Seveas> ouch
[01:57] <Seveas> file a bug then :)
[01:57] <DunkMaster> i need to set XFCe to estonian keyboard layout
[01:58] <Seveas> Monkness, no
[01:58] <Monkness> kewl
[01:58] <christos> anyone knows any package for algol compiler?
[01:58] <misaka> Monkness - Universe and multiverse are collections of packages that you can add to your ubuntu system. You don't install the entire thing, you pick and chose which packages you want to install from the universe or multiverse.
[01:59] <Monkness> but this glib thing i want to sort it out though...i installed the c++ compiler then ran a ./configure on the xmms installer but it says my glib is outdated though when i checked synaptic its version 2. something
[01:59] <DunkMaster> Seveas, can you help me setting estonian keyboard layout in XFce?
[01:59] <Seveas> christos, gcc can hadle algol iirc
[01:59] <misaka> Monkness - If it's still confusing, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components describes components.
[01:59] <DunkMaster> its not in the settings
[01:59] <Seveas> DunkMaster, no i can't sorry
[01:59] <DunkMaster> damn
[01:59] <christos> Seveas: what's iirc?
[01:59] <DunkMaster> i like XFCe its fast
[01:59] <misaka> Monkness - You really should just install the binary packages and not bother with the source ...
[01:59] <Seveas> if i recall correctly
[01:59] <Monkness> misaka i want to learn though
[01:59] <Monkness> :>
[02:00] <Monkness> i mean what if tehres a program without the debain binary...
[02:00] <Monkness> :<
[02:00] <misaka> Monkness - .... learn to install the binary packages first? ;]  But seriously, that kind of stuff will come, but you're installing a package here with a lot of dependancies, it's not the best one to start with to learn.
[02:00] <Seveas> Monkness, there are not many such programs :)
[02:00] <misaka> Monkness - There aren't a lot of those. ;]
[02:00] <Monkness> oookies
[02:01] <misaka> Gack. I think I'm just going to run DOM Inspector on my OSX box.
[02:01] <Seveas> misaka, why don't you file a bug then?
[02:01] <Monkness> im on the gname look site...which one should i choose for a theme theres sections on gtk, gdm themes?
[02:01] <Monkness> *gnome rather
[02:02] <Seveas> gtk themes
[02:02] <Seveas> gdm is the logon screen
[02:02] <Monkness> 2.x?
[02:02] <Seveas> 2.x yes
[02:02] <misaka> Monkness - gtk themes change the look of your widgets ... buttons, scrollbars, etc. gdm is the login manager, a different component.
[02:02] <Monkness> AHA
[02:02] <Monkness> i get i get
[02:02] <bionic> Whats the default cups username/password in ubuntu 5.04? Or do I have to make one somehow?
[02:02] <Monkness> and whats the splash screen t then
[02:03] <misaka> Monkness - Sorry, not sure about that. ;]
[02:03] <Seveas> Monkness, you need to run the configuration editor from the applications menu to change that
[02:03] <goye2cz> any way to test if I've correctly installed my tascam us-122
[02:03] <goye2cz> ?
[02:04] <misaka> goye2cz - I've got one of those ...
[02:04] <misaka> Are there Linux drivers for them?
[02:04] <Monkness> anyway of running starcraft in ubuntu :o
[02:05] <goye2cz> misaka: appears to be.
[02:05] <misaka> Neat-o.
[02:05] <Seveas> Monkness, maybe with wine, you should google for it
[02:05] <goye2cz> misaka: don't take my word for it, I don't have it working yet.
[02:05] <DunkMaster> when i change the kb layout in xorg.conf i will just need to reboot then?
[02:06] <Monkness> ah yes wine is the windows emulator for nix right
[02:06] <DunkMaster> yes
[02:06] <misaka> goye2cz - Well, wouldn't mind hearing if you end up sorting it out. ;]
[02:06] <DunkMaster> i use one atm
[02:06] <DunkMaster> to run WinMX
[02:06] <Monkness> k
[02:07] <Monkness> are u guys resposible for the development of ubuntu?
 Whats the default cups username/password in ubuntu 5.04? Or do I have to make one somehow? <-- also interested in that!!?
[02:07] <goye2cz> misaka: this is the link to directions on how to install it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30891.html The link to the RPM is broken, but someone here helped me find one.
[02:07] <misaka> bionic/Heart| - Have you guys checked the ubuntu docs for cups? Instructions on getting it going may be in there.
[02:08] <DunkMaster> brb, need to change the layout
[02:08] <misaka> goye2cz - Cool.
[02:09] <Monkness> what is metacity
[02:10] <NicP> metacity is the default windowmanger of gnome
[02:10] <bionic> misaka, my bad, works like a charm, thanks.
[02:11] <misaka> bionic - Might want to let Heart| know. ;]
[02:12] <bionic> Well didnt need it for adding a printer. Thaught I did.
[02:12] <n3C> what command is to download kde?
[02:12] <n3C> apt-get install kde
[02:12] <n3C> or
[02:13] <n3C> apt-get install kdebase
[02:13] <bionic> sudo apt-get install kde
[02:13] <Monkness> why use kde if ubuntu has gnome?
[02:13] <bionic> it will install what you need
[02:13] <Whistler> how can i start smart update?
[02:13] <n3C> i dont like gnome
[02:13] <Riddell> n3C: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <Seveas> n3C, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <Eudoxus> Hi
[02:13] <Seveas> hi Riddell :)
[02:13] <Seveas> do you have a trigger on KDE? ;)
[02:14] <Whistler> how can i start smart update?
[02:14] <Riddell> Seveas: yep :)
[02:14] <Seveas> lol!
[02:14] <misaka> Triggers on keywords in here? You guys must be commited. ;]
[02:14] <Eudoxus> Is there a Netlimiting software available for linux?
[02:14] <Seveas> Whistler, by hitting the smart update button...
[02:14] <Seveas> misaka, Riddell is the kubuntu-leader
[02:14] <Eudoxus> where you can control download and upload speed from individual applications
[02:14] <Whistler> i cant find it
[02:14] <Whistler> :d
[02:15] <misaka> Seveas - Ah. That's commited indeed. ;]
[02:15] <Seveas> Whistler, hit mark all upgrades and choose smart upgrade
[02:15] <misaka> Hrm. Has anyone experienced problems with k3b where windows show up off-screen and unreachable?
[02:15] <misaka> Or is it one of those 'just me' things ...
[02:18] <zerokills> how do i switch between different desktop environments like kde and xfce and gnome
[02:18] <mjr> zerokills, the gdm menu provides a choice
[02:18] <mjr> (gdm is the graphical login screen)
[02:19] <mindspin> after updating kde, i had some weird effects in window behaviour, (poping up and changing focus) I have now disabled acpi but Im not sure if this is the solution.
[02:19] <Seveas> window behaviour and acpi aren't related...
[02:19] <mindspin> until now it seems to work anyone shared that experience?
[02:20] <afonit> how does one do synaptic upgrades without the cdrom when it asks for the cdrom to be inserted?
[02:20] <jacob> I can see my neighbor's router's info on iwlist eth1 scan (ap, essid, channel, encryption=off) and my settings in iwconfig match, but my pings to <IP_ADDRESS> time out. What should my next step be?
[02:20] <mindspin> acpi showd strange effects on my notebook here
[02:20] <Seveas> afonit, remove the cdrom from the enabled sources
[02:20] <Daylighthater> Can I ask a game question? Does anyone know if there is a linux client for kalonline www.kalonline.com
[02:20] <afonit> seveas:  well that is easy, ok I'll try that
[02:21] <misaka> Daylighthater - Ask google ...
[02:22] <Daylighthater> I did :d
[02:22] <Seveas> jacob, ask your neighbout to let you use his router,,,
[02:22] <afonit> sveas: that worked, thanks alot
[02:22] <Seveas> yw
[02:22] <jacob> Seveas, I don't know whose it is.
[02:22] <Seveas> jacob, then why do you use it?
[02:23] <jacob> if he didn't want people using it, he'd use wep
[02:23] <Seveas> jacob, we do not support this kind of illegal activities
[02:23] <bigfoot1> hello all. I'm a newbie to Ubuntu/Linux. I have some 2 minor problems. After I hibernate my computer, and I try to get back on (by pressing the power button on the box), I get to see Ubuntu again but it's frozen. The other problem is that I have chosen to have some power management with my screen/display. In Prefencences-->Screensaver-->Advanced Tab-->upper right quadrant, I have checked all 3 of the boxes there. After some time away from my
[02:23] <bigfoot1>  computer, when I return and hit a key on the keyboard or move the mouse, nothing happens, the screen does not go from off to on. If you have any feedback, I'm all ears. Thank you for helping a newbie.
[02:23] <zerokills> gdm automatically loads?
[02:23] <jacob> so what law is that against again?
[02:24] <misaka> bigfoot1 - You're really best off trying to make questions as short and concise as possible, dude.
[02:24] <Seveas> jacob, that depends on your country
[02:24] <bionic> Hello, im trying to run a XviD file in mplayer, using -vo xv. But keep getting It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. Do I need to install xvid codec or something?
[02:24] <Seveas> misaka, but at least he gives all info :)
[02:24] <misaka> bigfoot1 - I don't think anybody here is paid to try to sort through long/complicated questions.
[02:24] <Seveas> bigfoot1, hybernate is not quite stable yet in Linux, best not to use it
[02:24] <misaka> Seveas - Well, he's off to a good start in that dept, s'true. ;]
[02:25] <jacob> usa in this case, and it's not illegal to connect to an open, unsecured network and do no damage
[02:25] <Goshawk> what about anjuta 2.0 on ubuntu? is there a non official repository?
[02:25] <bigfoot1> misaka, i tried to make them as specific as possible so that we could get to work immediately 8-).    I'm sorry you find my questions long and complicated. Could it be because I put the whole story into one post, rather than chopping it up into several? 8-)
[02:26] <misaka> bigfoot1 - Ya, two questions in one long post ... ;]
[02:26] <bigfoot1> seveas, okay. I was able to use it a while back, so i was wondering why it stopped working as it was.
[02:26] <bigfoot1> misaka, yes. One reason i put the 2 questions in one was because they may be related.
[02:26] <Seveas> bigfoot1, you should send out a mail to the ubuntu-users mailing list, there are lots of smart people ther so you might get a better answer than from me
[02:27] <misaka> bigfoot1 - You're right, they may be. If you've changed your kernel lately then maybe that could be related ... either way, I've not encountered those issues recently, so can't really comment.
[02:27] <bigfoot1> seveas, okay. Just curious, what do you use instead of hibernate? Or do you just leave your comp/monitor always on?
[02:27] <misaka> It's been a long while since I had my screensaver lock-up on me, I think it was the beta NVidia drivers days.
[02:28] <holycow> http://www.linspire.com/lindows_storefront.php?own=yes#virussafe  <-- heh
[02:28] <holycow> linspire sells a virus checker
[02:28] <holycow> wow
[02:28] <Seveas> always on (laptop with an uptime of > 1 month, and i travel a LOT)
[02:28] <holycow> i hate windows users seriously
[02:28] <Seveas> linspire is pure crap...
[02:28] <misaka> I just use cpu freq scaling to lower the CPU burn.
[02:28] <bigfoot1> what's uptime? is that the length of time you have had your cpu on?
[02:28] <bigfoot1> seveas.
[02:28] <holycow> the sell virus protection ... *blink*
[02:28] <Seveas> bigfoot1, yes
[02:29] <Seveas> type the command uptime in a terminal :)
[02:29] <Seveas>  14:29:09 up  1:43,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.11
[02:29] <Seveas> ghe
[02:29] <bigfoot1> seveas, re: the mailing list, do you think i should ask them about the screensaver lockup issue, or the hibernate issue, or both?
[02:29] <misaka> Seveas - That' ain't a month. ;]
[02:29] <Seveas> so much for the month uptime, i forgot that i rebooted :)
[02:29] <misaka> heh.
[02:29] <Whistler> 18:29:42 up  1:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.48, 0.41, 0.37
[02:30] <bigfoot1>  21:31:59 up 14 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.27, 0.19
[02:30] <jbroome> Seveas: yeah, that was an odd looking month. :)
[02:30] <Whistler> this means my system total uptime is 18h?
[02:30] <bigfoot1> why 2 users?
[02:30] <Seveas> bigfoot1, every terminal counts as 1
[02:30] <Seveas> and the graphical environment too
[02:30] <misaka> Eesh, I've got all you guys beat with my OSX machine.
[02:30] <jbroome> Whistler: one hour 17 minutes
[02:30] <jbroome> 18:29 is the time where you are now
[02:30] <Seveas> so 1 for the gui and one for the terminal where you ran uptime
[02:30] <misaka> 14:29  up 8 days, 12:35, 3 users, load averages: 0.93 0.57 0.59
[02:30] <misaka> mahahaha
[02:31] <Seveas> wow
[02:31] <Seveas> quite a load...
[02:31] <misaka> Ya, well, this _is_ OSX ...
[02:31] <Seveas> hmm
[02:31] <misaka> OSX isn't the most efficient OS, unfortunately.
[02:31] <Seveas> :)
[02:31] <misaka> But then, I do have a shit-load of apps running.
[02:31] <jbroome> 08:31:25 up 249 days, 18:54,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[02:31] <Seveas> but it looks cool though :)
[02:31] <misaka> jbroome - Show-off.
[02:31] <bigfoot1> seveas, should i give both questions to the mailing list? or is the hibernate issue resolved already between the 2 of us?
[02:32] <Seveas> jbroome, foolish :)
[02:32] <Seveas> don't you ever install kernel updates?
[02:32] <jbroome> Had a 500 + uptime box, but some doofus rebboted it
[02:32] <Seveas> bigfoot1, both
[02:32] <misaka> Seveas - Who says he's even running Linux? ;]
[02:32] <Seveas> misaka, apart from VMS all oses need rebooting
[02:32] <jbroome> Seveas: it's a fileserver that isn't open to the outside except for ssh.
[02:32] <Seveas> jbroome, still i would keep my kernel up-to-date
[02:33] <termite> xmms-mad_0.5.4-1_i386.deb = is that the one i need to open with synaptic?
[02:33] <bigfoot1> seveas, how do we keep our kernels up-to-date?
[02:33] <Seveas> termite, no
[02:33] <termite> is that xmms install file that is
[02:33] <misaka> Seveas - But not all OSs have the same penchant for rebooting ...
[02:33] <bob2> 500 days = you have local root exploits
[02:33] <Seveas> do not manually download debs
[02:33] <termite> Seveas its me monkness
[02:33] <bigfoot1> Seveas, how do we know if our kernel is up-to-date?
[02:33] <termite> Seveas then how do i download stuff?
[02:33] <misaka> Not all OSs have as many kernel updates as Linux, for example.
[02:33] <bob2> termite: just let synaptic download it for you
[02:33] <Seveas> termite, just search for xmms in synaptic
[02:33] <termite> what about vlc
[02:33] <bob2> misaka: most just don't acknowledge them, afaict
[02:33] <Seveas> and mark it for installation
[02:33] <termite> is that in synaptic as well
[02:34] <bob2> e.g. windows 2000 has outstanding local root exploits
[02:34] <termite> what if i need to install something thats a .deb file then what do i do...
[02:34] <misaka> bob2 - Well, ya, there's also that.
[02:34] <Seveas> bigfoot1, by installing linux-686 (or whatever you need) and regularly running apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <bigfoot1> seveas, why do you say that all OSes need rebooting? I thought LInux was an OS that never needed it.
[02:34] <Seveas> bigfoot1, it does, on kernel upgrades
[02:35] <misaka> bigfoot1 - Need isn't the same as *wanting* ... you probably *want* to reboot your Linux machine for kernel updates, more than you *need* to.
[02:35] <termite> Seveas i want to install vlc
[02:35] <Seveas> the only OS i know that supports rolling kernel upgrades is VMS
[02:35] <termite> i downloaded the deb file
[02:35] <termite> now what?
[02:35] <erb> hi
[02:35] <Seveas> termite, then enable universe and multiverse, throw out the .deb and use synaptic
[02:35] <Seveas> didn't you read the pages i gave you AT ALL?
[02:35] <termite> what if that machine is nt on the internet
[02:35] <termite> the ubuntu machine that is
[02:35] <termite> im using a usb flash to get apps to that machine
[02:35] <Seveas> termite, then download *ubuntu* debs from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:36] <Seveas> not random debs from other sources
[02:36] <termite> cant i just use any deb package
[02:36] <Seveas> no, definitely not
[02:36] <termite> whys that thought they are the same
[02:36] <termite> :/
[02:36] <paxon> Seveas, /etc/sudoers problem fixed, thanks. rw inite=/bin/bash did it.
[02:36] <Seveas> :)
[02:38] <bob2> termite: no, they're not the same
[02:38] <bionic> Im trying to play a xvid file in mplayer, it shuts down with Couldn't open /dev/3dfx. Installed the w3codecs. Ati card. Anyone please?
[02:39] <termite> so i can run any package on the package.ubuntu.com with synaptic?
[02:39] <Seveas> no, you should use: dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:39] <misaka> bionic - You don't have a 3dfx card do you?
[02:39] <termite> k ta Seveas
[02:39] <misaka> bionic - Looks like mplayer is trying to access /dev/3dfx for some reason ... how're you running it?
[02:40] <LokeDK> I installed ubuntu yesterday, but my sound doesn't work. I have a Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 card.. alsamixer says alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device and in lspci there's 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0008
[02:40] <termite> so synaptic can only install programs that are already on my pc which are optional?
[02:40] <LokeDK> And nothing is wrong with my card - because in works in windows
[02:41] <bionic> misaka, mplayer -vo xv file.avi
[02:41] <misaka> bionic - Any other error messages in mplayer's output?
[02:41] <LokeDK> and works fine in suse 9.3 too
[02:42] <termite> i cant find the vlc package on the packages.ubuntu
[02:42] <termite> :;/
[02:42] <Lincx> Hey
[02:43] <misaka> termite - I haven't been following ... why can't you find vlc in synaptic?
[02:43] <termite> is it therE?
[02:43] <termite> soz i didnt check
[02:43] <termite> im using a windows machine here
[02:43] <termite> my ubuntu machine is somewhere else
[02:43] <bionic> misaka, actually it complains about xv, It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available. No support for Ati Radeon 9800?
[02:43] <termite> im just get ting programs
[02:43] <DeadStar> hello.. can somebody tell me how to change the server from where apt-get is geting the requested packages?
[02:44] <misaka> termite - It's in synaptic for me, so long as you've got the right repositories setup it should go.
[02:44] <misaka> DeadStar - That's stored in /etc/apt/sources.list ... assuming you're not using synaptic.
[02:44] <termite> repositories setup?
[02:44] <termite> i didnt understand that
[02:44] <misaka> DeadStar - In which case, you should change it in there I think.
[02:44] <carambol> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:45] <misaka> bionic - It may not be enabled properly in your X11 configuration file.
[02:45] <DeadStar> misaka, i found it.. thanks..
[02:45] <termite> misaka ive just made a clean install of ubuntu
[02:45] <bionic> misaka, the graphic card works fine, im playing q3 24/7 :p
[02:45] <carambol> termite,is for u
[02:45] <DeadStar> do you recomand me a adress?
[02:45] <termite> without an internet commection
[02:45] <termite> will it have vlc?
[02:46] <misaka> termite - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[02:47] <misaka> termite - That talks about repositories. If you're using the universe component then vlc should be available.
[02:47] <termite> sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:47] <termite> wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb
[02:47] <termite> sudo dpkg -i xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb
[02:47] <termite> ok
[02:48] <termite> that computer does not have an internet connection
[02:48] <termite> so if i just copy xmms-wma_1.0.4-2_i386.deb to that machine
[02:48] <bionic> misaka, works fine in vlc tho, maybe its not supported by mplayer? Would like to get that to work too.
[02:48] <termite> and just run sudo dpkg will it work?
[02:49] <misaka> bionic - How about not using '-vo xv'? Considering the error you're getting is related to that ...
[02:49] <misaka> Try just 'mplayer file.avi'.
[02:50] <misaka> termite - That'll make it harder, because xmms will probably want other packages installed too.
[02:50] <bionic> misaka, tried that, the file starts, but its very small, and it doesnt change on fullscreen
[02:50] <bionic> the picture is ver y small i mean.
[02:50] <misaka> bionic - It doesn't scale it?
[02:50] <holycow> you know what tho, nvu is not too shabby indeedy
[02:51] <termite> that site helps misaka thanks
[02:51] <misaka> bionic - Try '-zoom' on the cmdline, or try reading the manpage for mplayer. ;]
[02:51] <termite> but where will i find a complete list of the stuff which i can install
[02:52] <termite> in universe
[02:52] <termite> or mutiverse
[02:52] <DeadStar> dows somebody knows a good adress for apt-get .. where i can find packages like mc ....
[02:52] <misaka> termite - Isn't xmms on the ubuntu cd?
[02:52] <termite> misaka i just need to install vlc
[02:52] <misaka> DeadStar - ubuntu has mc ... have you enabled universe/multiverse?
[02:52] <termite> i want to watch some stuff for today
[02:52] <misaka> termite - So ... no cd?
[02:52] <DeadStar> ow
[02:52] <termite> i have the cd
[02:52] <DeadStar> :D
[02:52] <r3d0xXuS``> so im back :D
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> Seavas
[02:53] <tola> I'm experimenting with hoary as a web server and am trying to get horde imp working. I apt-get installed imp3 but I'm not clear on what the installer configured automatically and what I am expected to do myself as some of the steps listed in the bundled documentation have certainly already been done. How can I find out what steps I actually need to take for a working system?
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> Seveas
[02:53] <bionic> Argh, did you say something misaka?
[02:53] <termite> misaka i have the cd
[02:53] <ccc> bionic: try: mplayer -vo xv -zoom
[02:53] <Seveas> wb r3d0xXuS``
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> ok
[02:53] <_oDy_> hi, how do I setup nfs in ubuntu?
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> install works
[02:53] <Seveas> nice
[02:53] <misaka> bionic - Try '-zoom' on the cmdline, or try reading the manpage for mplayer. ;]
[02:53] <misaka> ;]
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> but how i add a connection for my dsl?
[02:53] <r3d0xXuS``> so i want connect with ubuntu
[02:54] <misaka> termite - Hrm. And no vlc on there? I don't know offhand if it's there or not.
[02:54] <termite> misaka so i cant just install a debian package?
[02:54] <termite> with a command line?
[02:54] <misaka> termite - That's what we're talking about, isn't it?
[02:54] <termite> yes
[02:54] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, try sudo ppoeconf in a terminal
[02:55] <r3d0xXuS``> k mom
[02:55] <misaka> Install the debian package that is on the CD, if it's on there ... that I can't answer offhand.
[02:55] <DeadStar> hmm i modified the sources.list so that i could take also from universe..but still isn't working for mc.. mc has support for amd54 procesors? May this be the problem?
[02:55] <r3d0xXuS``> in recovery?
[02:55] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, no
[02:55] <termite> but they said u cant but on every site it just says sudo dpkg -i .deb
[02:55] <Seveas> in a terminal when you boot up normally
[02:55] <termite> i want to know why my glib is not working
[02:55] <r3d0xXuS``> ah okay
[02:55] <termite> ;/
[02:55] <r3d0xXuS``> also logout and use login in a terminal?
[02:55] <termite> it says its not installed but i installed the c++ compiter via synaptic
[02:55] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS``, no, just open a terminal :)
[02:55] <r3d0xXuS``> k
[02:56] <Seveas> rightclick on the desktop and select new terminal
[02:56] <r3d0xXuS``> sudo ppoeconf ?
[02:56] <Seveas> yes
[02:56] <Seveas> ehm
[02:56] <Seveas> pppoeconf
[02:56] <LokeDK> How can I test my sound?
[02:56] <Seveas> 3 p's
[02:56] <termite> misaka - > i have this file
[02:56] <termite> vlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb
[02:56] <Seveas> LokeDK, settings, preferences, sound
[02:57] <r3d0xXuS``> hmm
[02:57] <Seveas> tab sound events
[02:57] <r3d0xXuS``> nothing does it
[02:57] <LokeDK> thanks
[02:57] <Seveas> termite, sudo dpkg -i vlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb
[02:57] <r3d0xXuS``> ah now
[02:57] <termite> Seveas : i have vlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb...should i just run a dpkg -i on it?
[02:57] <Seveas> yes :)
[02:57] <termite> shweet
[02:57] <r3d0xXuS``> ok ill do
[02:58] <misaka> Seveas - Isn't that going to ask him to satisfy a bunch of dependancies?
[02:58] <Seveas> misaka, well, then he'll have to download these too...
[02:59] <termite> misaka are u referring to my question?
[02:59] <misaka> Seveas - Ugh. That's going to be fun. ;]
[02:59] <misaka> termite - Yes.
[02:59] <termite> shit
[02:59] <termite> i dont have internet on my ubuntu machine ;/
[02:59] <termite> this is impossible
[02:59] <misaka> Which is why I was telling you to use synaptic, but without an Internet connection, it's going to be a pain.
[02:59] <misaka> termite - Give it an Internet connection. ;]
[03:00] <termite> :o
[03:00] <termite> will try
[03:00] <misaka> termite - Or grab a single-CD Linux distribution that has vlc and all the other goodies on it.
[03:00] <misaka> Knoppix might, for example.
[03:00] <Seveas> termite, hang on
[03:00] <termite> ok ok
[03:00] <termite> plz help :>
[03:01] <termite> im using hoary btw.
[03:03] <r3d0xXuS> hahaha
[03:03] <r3d0xXuS> it works :D
[03:03] <r3d0xXuS> thanks Seavas
[03:03] <orhs> hey all! :) anyone know about a good packet sniffer for linux?
[03:03] <DeadStar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/77
[03:04] <DeadStar> can somebody help me?
[03:04] <Seveas> termite, download this: http://ubuntulinux.nl/~dennis/vlc.tar.gz unpack it and run dpkg -i *.deb
[03:04] <snuva> orhs, ettercap, ethereal etc etc
[03:04] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas thanks :D :D :D
[03:04] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, yw :)
[03:04] <r3d0xXuS> im in ubuntu connected :D
[03:04] <Seveas> have fun with ubuntu :)
[03:04] <r3d0xXuS> finally .D
[03:04] <termite> Seveas so u sure i wont need anything else?
[03:04] <Seveas> termite, i don't have vlc installed and used apt-get -d install vlc
[03:04] <r3d0xXuS> ehm one thing: Seveas: how i install icq ?!
[03:04] <Seveas> so i downloaded all packaged you need
[03:04] <Seveas> and put hem in that file :)
[03:04] <misaka> Seveas - You're a real trooper. ;]
[03:05] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, use gaim for that
[03:05] <Seveas> applications -> internet -> gaim
[03:05] <r3d0xXuS> ah that
[03:05] <termite> thanks a lot Seveas
[03:05] <termite> hope it workz0rs
[03:05] <Seveas> DeadStar, run apt-get update
[03:05] <termite> hmm that site is a bit slow ....is there any other place hosting it?
[03:06] <Seveas> DeadStar, and OMG, that server was down for the last hour, i'm so glad you didn't try it earlier ;)
[03:06] <Seveas> termite, no, I only uploaded it there
[03:06] <DeadStar> :D
[03:06] <Seveas> and it's quite fast, but mod_bandwidth limits it a bit :)
[03:06] <r3d0xXuS> :o
[03:06] <termite> im getting 1.82 kb off it ;/
[03:07] <termite> can u put it on yousendit.com for me plz
[03:07] <Seveas> termite, that's not good
[03:07] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas: why is my graphiccard so slow for screensaver, coz i got gef6800 ?
[03:07] <Seveas> must be something else that causes the slowdown
[03:07] <termite> if u can
[03:07] <termite> its not myside
[03:07] <termite> yousendit.com should be quick
[03:07] <Seveas> termite, it is
[03:08] <Seveas> i get 200 K/s from ubuntulinux.nl
[03:08] <termite> can u chuck it there
[03:08] <termite> hmm
[03:08] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, geforce?
[03:08] <r3d0xXuS> yeah
[03:08] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:08] <Seveas> read that
[03:08] <termite> Seveas so vlc was not in synaptic?
[03:08] <Seveas> the default (open source) driver is terrible, you need the binary driver
[03:08] <Seveas> termite, it is
[03:09] <r3d0xXuS> ok ill do
[03:09] <termite> so i dont need to download it then
[03:09] <Seveas> but this file contains all dependencies too
[03:09] <termite> aha
[03:09] <Seveas> will save you some curses :)
[03:09] <termite> hehe
[03:09] <misaka> termite - Synaptic downloads from an Internet site ...
[03:09] <termite> oh........
[03:09] <termite> they should rather have put it on cds
[03:09] <Seveas> misaka, (ping!!)
[03:09] <misaka> termite - Either that or from the CD you have, but since vlc isn't on the cd, and you can't get onto the Internet, you have to find another way.
[03:09] <misaka> Seveas - *nod*
[03:09] <Seveas> never figured that he missed that point :)
[03:10] <misaka> termite - Right, but there's already way too much stuff on the CDs ... no room for lil' ol' vlc. ;]
[03:10] <misaka> termite - Which is why I was suggesting maybe another live CD distribution that had it.
[03:10] <termite> vlc is the king
[03:10] <termite> >
[03:10] <t-e-o> how do I stop gdm from starting at boot?
[03:10] <misaka> Seveas - Ya, it was lurking in my mind there, finally got it out. ;]
[03:10] <r3d0xXuS> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:10] <r3d0xXuS> ops
[03:10] <r3d0xXuS> wrong window :x
[03:11] <termite> or can u suggest another way where i can run xdiv/divx/mp3s
[03:11] <termite> *xvid.
[03:11] <misaka> termite - Nah, I like vlc, I don't think that the ubuntu CD has any movie players on it, offhand, but not sure.
[03:11] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, are you on intel or amd?
[03:11] <misaka> termite - They don't concentrate on that because to have a proper movie player means including a lot of packages.
[03:11] <termite> ok
[03:11] <misaka> termite - Doesn't let them include other, more important stuff.
[03:11] <r3d0xXuS> amd64
[03:11] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, ah
[03:12] <Seveas> install linux-amd64
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> into terminal ?
[03:12] <Seveas> that'll drag in the most recent kernel and drivers
[03:12] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, do you run the 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> :/ screensaver its still lagging
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> no
[03:12] <Seveas> ah ok
[03:12] <termite> w00t there is a 64 bit
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> 32bit i think
[03:12] <Seveas> install linux-k7 then
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> how? im nub at linux :X
[03:12] <r3d0xXuS> btw newbie
[03:13] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install linux-k7
[03:13] <Seveas> :)
[03:13] <r3d0xXuS> sudo aptitude install linux-k7
[03:13] <r3d0xXuS> k
[03:13] <r3d0xXuS> mom
[03:13] <Seveas> you need to restart X to see any effect from nvidia-glx-enable by the way ...
[03:13] <r3d0xXuS> ah ok
[03:13] <r3d0xXuS> ill restart now
[03:13] <termite> Seveas u uploading it?
[03:13] <Seveas> yes
[03:14] <termite> someone wants to kick me out of here ;
[03:14] <termite> ;/
[03:14] <Seveas> http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0A8TO46RIXSVJ3S3ELKDR0VNJQ
[03:14] <Seveas> it says that it couldn't send you a mail, but you can download it there
[03:14] <termite> okies
[03:15] <termite> thanks :>
[03:15] <Seveas> yw
[03:15] <termite> Seveas why do u use ubuntu as compared with other linux distros?
[03:16] <Seveas> termite, because it's the best
[03:17] <DeadStar> apt-get is very good and it's quite easier than Debian..
[03:17] <DeadStar> also it's good for laptops..
[03:17] <DeadStar> notebooks:D
[03:18] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas
[03:18] <DeadStar> Seveas, thanks for help i manage to install mc, and now i'm installing other applications..
[03:19] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas: how i can see that nvidia driver installed?
[03:19] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, run glxgears from a terminal
[03:19] <Seveas> and wait a few seconds
[03:19] <Seveas> it'll report the framerate it gets
[03:20] <r3d0xXuS> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:20] <r3d0xXuS> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[03:21] <Seveas> have you run nvidia-glx-enable?
[03:21] <r3d0xXuS> i dont know
[03:21] <r3d0xXuS> i used that sudo install this
[03:21] <r3d0xXuS> dunno what command
[03:21] <_kaz> is there some sort of photo album type software available for ubuntu?
[03:21] <tritium> _kaz, gphoto
[03:22] <Seveas> there are 2 sudo command
[03:22] <Seveas> commands*
[03:22] <Seveas> you need to run both
[03:22] <_kaz> tritium: thanks :]
[03:22] <tritium> _kaz, gphoto2, actually
[03:22] <r3d0xXuS> gimme the link please
[03:22] <Seveas> https://test.wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:22] <Whistler> help i was adding pannels and pc freezed
[03:22] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, and also: you *must* have linux-k7 installed
[03:22] <Whistler> now there is no panels
[03:22] <Whistler> how can i enable them?
[03:23] <r3d0xXuS> that sudo -install linux-k7
[03:23] <Whistler> help me
[03:23] <Whistler> anybody plz
[03:23] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[03:23] <Seveas> Whistler, no panels at all?
[03:23] <Whistler> nope
[03:23] <Whistler> none
[03:23] <Seveas> run the following from a terminal:
[03:23] <Seveas> gnome-panel &
[03:24] <Whistler> i have detected panels is already running so i will exit
[03:24] <Whistler> it gives me this error msg
[03:24] <r3d0xXuS> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[03:24] <r3d0xXuS> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[03:24] <r3d0xXuS> E: Konnte Paket linux-k7 nicht finden
[03:25] <Whistler> plz help me
[03:25] <Whistler> i am scared
[03:25] <r3d0xXuS> E: cannot package linux-k7 find
[03:25] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas
[03:25] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, try linux-amd64
[03:25] <r3d0xXuS> E: cannot package linux-k7 find
[03:25] <pfp> Whistler: logout+login usually takes care of that
[03:25] <r3d0xXuS> same
[03:25] <r3d0xXuS> E: cannot package linux-amd64 find
[03:26] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, hmm
[03:26] <Whistler> pfp it doesnt helped
[03:26] <Whistler> aaa
[03:26] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on paste.ubuntulinux.nl please
[03:26] <tritium> r3d0xXuS, do you have "restricted" component enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:26] <Whistler> i typed gnome-panels off and pannels appeared
[03:27] <Seveas> Whistler, so you have your panels back now?
[03:28] <Whistler> fuck
[03:28] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/78
[03:28] <Whistler> not again
[03:28] <Whistler> bottom panels are working
[03:28] <Whistler> and headers not
[03:28] <Whistler> =[[
[03:28] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:28] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, and in a terminal type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <Seveas> remove *all* the text currently in that file
[03:29] <Seveas> and put the text you find at paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 there
[03:29] <goye2cz> Hey, got an ALSA firmware problem, synaptic tells me I have version 1.0.9-1, but the command "cat /proc/asound/version" tells me I have Version 1.0.6. help?
[03:29] <Seveas> then save the file, run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[03:29] <goye2cz> I would rather have the later
[03:29] <goye2cz> release
[03:29] <r3d0xXuS> k
[03:30] <r3d0xXuS> wait wait wait
[03:30] <r3d0xXuS> i cant fast
[03:30] <r3d0xXuS> also
[03:30] <r3d0xXuS> that text in to source.list?
[03:30] <Seveas> yes
[03:30] <r3d0xXuS> ok wait
[03:31] <r3d0xXuS> ok saved
[03:31] <r3d0xXuS> what no
[03:31] <r3d0xXuS> now*
[03:31] <Seveas> then save the file, run sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linux-k7
[03:31] <r3d0xXuS> sudo apt-get update <- into terminal?
[03:32] <Eudoxus> I used Ubuntu to setup my printer. The correct driver is there. However, Only a small upper part of the test page comes out. And printing something else doesn't work. Seems that it is not getting through to the printer. Why?
[03:32] <Eudoxus> I get Parallel port busy... or somethign like that in the printer settings
[03:32] <_kaz> tritium: i was also looking for something more like gpc.sourceforge.net  a photo collection manager
[03:32] <r3d0xXuS> Seveas: sudo apt-get update <- into terminal?
[03:32] <flickerfly> When I type apt-get install mtx it can't find the mtx package. What am I missing?
[03:32] <_kaz> is there something better than that?
[03:32] <Seveas> r3d0xXuS, yes
[03:33] <goye2cz> I'm coming up with alsa firmware Version 1.0.6 on my sytem. If I wanted to remove it, how would I go about that?
[03:33] <r3d0xXuS> ok updating
[03:33] <Seveas> flickerfly, you need to have universe enabled
[03:33] <r3d0xXuS> woohoo
[03:33] <r3d0xXuS> 353 KB/s :P
[03:33] <Seveas> nice :)
[03:34] <misaka> goye2cz - To start, alsa doesn't have a 'firmware' version ... just a version. :]
[03:34] <flickerfly> Seveas: ? do you have a link with directions on that? I don't know what Universe is
[03:34] <tritium> _kaz, you might search through the output of "apt-cache search photo", then, and look for something that might suit your needs...
[03:35] <_kaz> this too http://directory.fsf.org/webauth/palbums/
[03:35] <misaka> goye2cz - And the other thing is that the package version, that you see with dpkg/synaptic, isn't necessarily the same as the kernel drivers version, that you see in /proc/asound/version.
[03:35] <goye2cz> misaka: all I know is that's included in the name of somethign I have to have.
[03:35] <misaka> At least, I don't think they're necessarily the same.
[03:35] <r3d0xXuS> okay is ready Seveas?