[04:36] <excalibas> Hello, I am trying to disable my touchpad folowing this article http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/ but it doesnt work. here is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/d1e23392c Please help me to disable my touchpad.
[04:36] <anto9us> Slinkeey, depends how fast things are moving, if you're not getting an answer it may be a good idea to rephrase it
[04:36] <metajemo> flashplugin-nonfree installed, browser restarted, still it is not running
[04:36] <gentooma> hey - is here someone familiar with vlc ? can't get the web based stream to work:/
[04:37] <Slinkeey> Does anyone know anything about Acer Notebook keyboards acting funny with ubuntu? (Fine With Windows)
[04:37] <nanotube> Slinkeey: what do you mean by "bouncing around" ? is it possible that maybe you have a touchpad, that you are inadvertently activating with your palms?
[04:37] <basix> hi...has anybody recently installed Ubuntu on a MacBook pro 13" ?? I need some info. I just want to talk to someone who is actually using it on current generations of MacBooks...
[04:37] <cellofellow> Slinkeey: you sure it's the keyboard? What's the actual symptons, sans diagnosis?
[04:37] <Tactical_Chicken> send me the mac and i'll answer yur q's
[04:37] <Tactical_Chicken> lol
[04:37] <juand> hello.. I am trying to install php5-xcache on 8.10 server, but aptitude can't find the package.. How do I determine how to configure my sources.list to get this package?
[04:37] <Cyrano_De> CITguy-Artemis: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/15026-usb-key-help-2.html <---Looks like it might have similar issue
[04:37] <zenlunatic> excalibas: have you tried system->preferences->mouse->touchpad?
[04:38] <gilboman007> you guys rock
[04:38] <cellofellow> (is there still a channel for ubuntu on apple hardware or did that die with the ppc port?)
[04:38] <nanotube> basix: you might do better by just asking the specific questions you have...
[04:38] <IcemanV9> metajemo: in the address bar, type about:plugins & check if flash is installed
[04:38] <cellofellow> juand: maybe it's named something else
[04:38] <Slinkeey> Well for instance I will type in mozilla (form, email... etc..) and I will end up typing at the top of the page when I was half way down the page
[04:38] <excalibas> zenlunatic, Woo, that was easy :) thanks a lot!
[04:38] <Slinkeey> The curser wil cut into the middle of my email and start typing...
[04:38] <cellofellow> juand: in aptitude just search for "php5-" and see what you get (/ key to search)/
[04:38] <nanotube> gilboman007: ehrm... thanks? :)
[04:39] <zenlunatic> excalibas: no proplem
[04:39] <juand> cellofellow: I've done that.. the package doesn't show up... it does on my 9.04 box
[04:39] <basix> nanotube, i'm looking to purchase a MacBook pro but I wont if it wont run Linux well. I'm a power user but I love the ease with which Ubuntu works so I am not looking at compiling and installing drivers on the MacBook. I'm ok with configuring / making some settings but I dont want to end up compiling my kernel...
[04:39] <anto9us> juand, add universe repository
[04:39] <metajemo> i have shockwave flash File name:  libswfdecmozilla.so Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999
[04:39] <Cyrano_De> juand: You can try adding the backports repository as well in software-sources
[04:39] <Tactical_Chicken> i had a similar prob to that...but when i updated via Update Manager the jumping around went away
[04:40] <cellofellow> juand: ok...
[04:40] <gilboman007> ok no stupid question does yum updates still work or no
[04:40] <nanotube> juand: php5-xcache is in the universe repository. enable universe, refresh, try again
[04:40] <basix> nanotube, hence i need someone with recent experiences...
[04:40] <juand> anto9us: I have this: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main universe
[04:40] <gilboman007> been away from linux for a while
[04:40] <ValentineX> hello, how to install .bin.sh file?
[04:40] <anto9us> juand, now do sudo apt-get update
[04:40] <cellofellow> metajemo: swfdec isn't adobe flash.
[04:40] <Cyrano_De> gilboman007: yum is a redhat/centos/yellowdog package manager.
[04:40] <juand> anto9us: did.. still the sme
[04:40] <Cyrano_De> !yum
[04:40] <juand> * same
[04:40] <FrankQC> juand: do sudo apt-get update -y; sudo apt-get upgrade -y; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[04:40] <IcemanV9> metajemo: that's old flash ... what's version of ubuntu?
[04:40] <Slinkeey> yeah the jumping is wierd...
[04:41] <nanotube> basix: ah... in that case... good luck. :) if nobody here has any direct experience, try googling around...
[04:41] <gilboman007> just made the switch to kubuntu still learning
[04:41] <cellofellow> ValentineX: first, don't. Find a deb or a source package before installing a bin.
[04:41] <cellofellow> metajemo: swfdec is actually based on gstreamer, while adobe flash is the official flash player.
[04:41] <Cyrano_De> !apt | gilboman007
[04:41] <anto9us> juand, it's definitely showing for me under universe/web
[04:41] <metajemo> IcemanV9: 9.04
[04:41] <Tactical_Chicken> slinkeey....does it happen in all apps with text input or just email and firefox?
[04:41] <Slinkeey> well notepad firefox
[04:41]  * cellofellow keeps meaning to install KDE on his box for a try. Haven't used KDE in about 3 years.
[04:41] <Cyrano_De> gilboman007: apt-get is similar to yum but 10 times faster and has more human readable errors.
[04:41] <nanotube> anto9us: juand: yea, showing here on 8.10 under universe, too...
[04:41] <Slinkeey> not in this pidgin
[04:41] <IcemanV9> metajemo: abode flash uses libflashplayer.so 10.0 r32
[04:42] <basix> nanotube, i looked at the wiki and it definitely looks promising but it seems a lot of people have had issues with alsa and sound on the notebook. they had to install stuff from the latest alsa snapshots which kinda discourages me...
[04:42] <Tactical_Chicken> bluetooth mouse?
[04:42] <Slinkeey> but the pidgin app might be limiting me to one line
[04:42] <Slinkeey> nope
[04:42] <juand> anto9us: I have these 2 lines:  deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main universe  AND deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main universe    is that all that's needed?
[04:42] <kitty__> ok, now as i was saying, is there a way to "disable" the visibility of a network on a computer but still use it for an iptables software router?
[04:42] <ValentineX> cellofellow: where can i find java wireless toolkit in .deb
[04:42] <Tactical_Chicken> er...wireless mouse i mean?
[04:42] <Slinkeey> nope
[04:42] <Tactical_Chicken> hhmm
[04:42] <Slinkeey> just touchpad
[04:42] <gilboman007> yeah you guys are alot more help you guys rock
[04:42] <cellofellow> ValentineX: good question...
[04:42] <Slinkeey> maybe i will disable it and plug in a mouse
[04:42] <Slinkeey> just for kicks
[04:42] <IcemanV9> metajemo: you need to remove mozilla flash (cannot remember the actual deb package name)
[04:42] <Tactical_Chicken> ya....i'd try that
[04:43] <metajemo> IcemanV9:right, what folder should i get this file into ?
[04:43] <nanotube> Slinkeey: well, try disabling it and see if cursor still 'bounces'... if not, you know the source of the problem.
[04:43] <Tactical_Chicken> could be touchpad sensitivity is up way too high but this should tell ya if that's the case
[04:43] <ValentineX> cellofellow: i also wanted .deb but failed to get that unable to get from googling
[04:43] <gilboman007> one last question am i still getting rpm or somthing else
[04:43] <cellofellow> MTec007: flashplayer-nonfree is the package that "installs" adobe flash. It does not actually include the flash player itself, though, but instead downloads it and installs in the debconf.
[04:44] <nanotube> gilboman007: apt uses .deb packages, not .rpm
[04:44] <cellofellow> MTec007: oops
[04:44] <gilboman007> thats why flash dosnt work
[04:44] <cellofellow> metajemo: that above was for you
[04:44] <gilboman007> i will get there one day guys i promise
[04:44] <cellofellow> gilboman007: if you must install rpm you use alien, but that's not recommended.
[04:44] <Slinkeey> Ok.. I think it is the touchpad
[04:44] <cellofellow> ValentineX: what is it that you are installing again?
[04:44] <Slinkeey> I just turned it off while typing
[04:44] <nanotube> gilboman007: to install flash, just install from the repositories package "flashplayer-nonfree"
[04:44] <Slinkeey> and it typed a paragraph in gmail
[04:45] <ValentineX> cellofellow: java wireless development toolkit
[04:45] <metajemo> cellofellow: got it
[04:45] <cellofellow> Slinkeey: that's supposed to be a "feature" that keeps you from moving the cursor while typing. It's in the synaptics driver.
[04:45] <cellofellow> brb
[04:45] <IcemanV9> metajemo: is this package, mozilla-plugin-gnash, installed? if so, remove it. adobe flash should be working.
[04:45] <Slinkeey> I turned it on and the problem returned
[04:46] <Slinkeey> my notebook has an on and off button for the pad
[04:46] <webbb82> im trying to install google gadgets but it says i need this Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2)
[04:46] <webbb82>  can someone help
[04:46] <Tactical_Chicken> prolly need a driver update for it
[04:46] <metajemo> IcemanV9: mozilla-plugin-gnash - free swf.... -not installed
[04:46] <Slinkeey> I think it is because the side of my thumb pumps the scroll up and down portion of my touchpad
[04:46] <Tactical_Chicken> what laptop do you have?
[04:47] <IdleOne> webbb82: install libltdl7-dev
[04:47] <Slinkeey> Cheap Acer Aspire 5536
[04:47] <Slinkeey> it does me well for the most part
[04:47] <IcemanV9> metajemo: ok. did you installed flashplugin-nonfree as cellofellow suggested some time ago?
[04:47] <ValentineX> hello i am special give me ubuntu 10.04 first of all
[04:48] <Tactical_Chicken> hhhmmmm  i installed ubuntu onto my wifes acer  model similar to yours.... it did the same exact thing....never did get it figured out
[04:48] <webbb82> IdleOne, it says i already have it installed
[04:48] <Tactical_Chicken> was running 8.04 back then
[04:48] <cellofellow> ValentineX: 10.04 isn't even in development yet. Only thing about it so far is that there is a new codename for it, Lucid Lynx.
[04:48] <gilboman007> um
[04:48] <Tactical_Chicken> which ubuntu you running now?
[04:48] <Slinkeey> 9.04
[04:48] <Tactical_Chicken> ah...
[04:48] <Slinkeey> it is not a bad notebook for the price
[04:48] <Tactical_Chicken> no it isn't
[04:48] <IdleOne> webbb82: hmmm not sure what to tell you now
[04:48] <remyo> From terminal, how do you show the contents of a folder (like an ls) without cding into it?
[04:48] <Slinkeey> runs a little hot
[04:49] <Slinkeey> great for the livingroom
[04:49] <cellofellow> remyo: ls /the/dir
[04:49] <metajemo> IcemanV9: flashplugin-nonfree, adobe-flashplugin,flashplugin-installer v <IP_ADDRESS>... - installed
[04:49] <cellofellow> remyo: you can use relative paths too like ls ../anotherdir
[04:49] <durt> webbb82, how are you trying to install, google gadgets is in the repos.
[04:49] <ValentineX> lucid lynx hmm
[04:49] <remyo> cellofellow: Ah, that makes sense
[04:49] <cellofellow> remyo: more details with ls --help
[04:49] <remyo> cellofellow: Thanks
[04:49] <CITguy-Artemis> Cyrano_Zz: I managed to find the fix here: http://www.delodder.be/blog/linux/fat_get_cluster-invalid-cluster-chain-i_pos-0-fat-filesystem-panic-dev/
[04:49] <webbb82> really?
[04:50] <anto9us> remyo, ~ is a shortcut to your home folder too
[04:50] <Tactical_Chicken> yessss.... you have to pull the heatsink off the cpu and clean them off then apply Arctic Silver 5 paste to the cpu...  i did that and the temp dropped by 8 degrees in Celsius
[04:50] <CITguy-Artemis> that's the error i was also getting
[04:50] <webbb82> go here http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/07/07/get-google-gadgets-up-and-running-on-your-ubuntu-install/
[04:50] <IcemanV9> metajemo: you should be all set. shutdown the browser and start it again. check if it is installed by type about:plugins in the address bar
[04:50] <Anonyomus> hey guys. i'm looking for a new computer setup. would like to know, would raid0 or raid1 be better /noob
[04:50] <remyo> anto9us: I know, :)
[04:50] <Slinkeey> can i make the touchpad turn off while typing?
[04:50] <cellofellow> Seeing as 10.04 will be an LTS and the other two previous LTS releases were named for birds (Drake, Heron) I think Lucid Loon would have been better. Has a kind of oxymoronic irony.
[04:50] <Tactical_Chicken> don't see how
[04:51] <Tactical_Chicken> oh is yurs a button or a combo of the function button and a key to turn it off?
[04:51] <gilboman007> so tar.gz
[04:51] <Tactical_Chicken> don't remember my wife's comp anymore
[04:51] <Anonyomus> I'm looking to purchase a new server, should I go with raid0 or raid1? (server needs to have 3 vpses hosted on it)
[04:52] <Slinkeey> ayep
[04:52] <Slinkeey> button rught next to the pad
[04:52] <Slinkeey> right
[04:52] <Tactical_Chicken> hhmmm
[04:52] <IcemanV9> Anonyomus: try ask that question in #ubuntu-server?
[04:52] <bastidrazor> Anonyomus: #ubuntu-server may have better advice for servers.
[04:52] <Slinkeey> turn off the pad
[04:52] <Tactical_Chicken> dunno...unless yur a hard typer
[04:52] <anto9us> Anonyomus, raid0 for speed, raid1 for integrity
[04:52] <Slinkeey> I will do it manually for now
[04:52] <Slinkeey> with that button
[04:52] <gilboman007> work on this tomorrow going to bed
[04:52] <Slinkeey> when typing long stuff
[04:52] <cellofellow> Anonyomus: raid0 is fast, raid1 is safe
[04:53] <freenose> Is there a channel for jeos?
[04:53] <metajemo> IcemanV9: All tabs closed, browser restarted, about:plugins opened - still no other flash than shockwave. I also logged off and logged back in as was suggested by a website. it did not do the trick either
[04:53] <durt> freenose, searchirc.com
[04:53] <gilboman007> thanx again for your help
[04:53] <Tactical_Chicken> anonymous needs to read the meaning of raid0 and raid1 ...dontcha think?  very self explanatory
[04:53] <Tactical_Chicken> lol
[04:54] <neil_d> I am having trouble with postfix... I setup an alias file with the line "root: neil".... but when I use "sendmail root@localhost"  it put the email in the file /var/mail/nobody :(  I thought it was to put it in /var/mail/neil... what is wrong?
[04:54] <metajemo> libflashplayer.so is just not there
[04:54] <IcemanV9> metajemo: it should be working as you mentioned shockwave flash. that's odd. may i ask what's the url address so i can test to see if it's website side or your PC problem?
[04:55] <IcemanV9> espn.com is perfect site to test it
[04:55] <metajemo> IcemanV9: www.vbox7.com  - choose any video
[04:55] <Slinkeey> http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/03/howto-disable-touchpad-while-typing.html
[04:55] <Slinkeey> might try this
[04:55] <Slinkeey> i will try it
[04:55] <Tactical_Chicken> raid0= speed and more space and double the buffer....raid1= redundancy...meaning 1 hard drive fails..the other steps in to replace it...
[04:56] <stephen_> I need help with the printer interfacing with Ubuntu
[04:56] <IcemanV9> metajemo: it's working fine (even with the sound) .. so it's your PC.
[04:56] <zubin71> Hello, anybody here?
[04:56] <zubin71> i`d like some help
[04:57] <trip0> stephen_: printer interfacing in ubuntu is super easy.  what's your issue?
[04:57] <Tactical_Chicken> if yur using onbaord raid then good friggin luck with that.....not very stable for a server.... i recommend raid0 for the space and speed for virtualization
[04:57] <zubin71> i deleted my /var/lib/dpkg by mistake...
[04:57] <trip0> zubin71: just ask
[04:57] <webbb82> ok i got google gadgets installed but rite after it starts it will crash for some reason
[04:57] <Tactical_Chicken> just do it with an add-on raid card
[04:57] <zubin71> trip0: anyway i can restore it?
[04:58] <trip0> zubin71: you may want to copy that file back from a diff computer.  apt-get is broken isn't it?
[04:58] <Tactical_Chicken> or put in 4 hard drives and use both raid1 and raid0...lol
[04:58] <zubin71> trip0: very much
[04:58] <metajemo> IcemanV9: i doubt it is the pc itself, it is rather something i am not doing right. any ideas how to install libflashplayer.so manually?
[04:58] <IdleOne> webbb82: I just installed using this link from getdeb http://www.getdeb.net/download/4635/0
[04:58] <IdleOne> webbb82: seems to be stable here
[04:58] <stephen_> I have a old Xerox Docuprint N17 laser connected by USB.  I installed the driver and it appears just fine.  However, when I print, it prints out garbage and the spooler says that the printed is not connected.  Any ideas?
[04:58] <zubin71> trip0: isnt there any way i can rebuild the required files based on the fies which are already present?
[04:59] <IcemanV9> metajemo: i didn't meant your pc. just something's not right on your pc. this is far as i know.
[04:59] <zubin71> trip0: i dont have an ubuntu machine nearby, si its quite a prob..
[04:59] <fuzzybunny> hi everyone, anybody have any idea why i cant ping my laptop (<IP_ADDRESS>) from another laptop (<IP_ADDRESS>), but as soon as I ping <IP_ADDRESS> from 65, connectivity works both ways?
[05:00] <zubin71> any other ideas guys? problem is "i have to restore /var/lib/dpkg"
[05:00] <trip0> zubin71: how about a ubunt cd?
[05:00] <zubin71> trip0: you mean copy them from a live cd?
[05:00] <zubin71> trip0: but what bout all the additional packages i have installed?
[05:01] <deeproot> are there any gnome 2.28 packages for 9.04 yet
[05:01] <metajemo> IcemanV9: do you know where i can find all the others *.so files?the path to them? should they be in ~/.mozilla ?
[05:02] <webbb82> IdleOne, what ubuntu version are you running
[05:02] <IdleOne> webbb82: 9.04
[05:02] <webbb82> im on 9.10
[05:02] <IdleOne> webbb82: that probably explains it
[05:02] <trip0> webbb82: me too, aint it great
[05:03] <webbb82> ya i like it but i keep wondering if i should install jaunty so i can get things like google gadgets to work
[05:03] <IdleOne> webbb82: 9.10 is having a hard enough time running it's own gadgets :)
[05:03] <rnk> Question: How do I get automake 1.11 installed on Ubuntu Jaunty?  It's coming for Karmic.
[05:04] <Flannel> webbb82: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support
[05:04] <trip0> rnk automake 1.11 is in jaunty backports
[05:04] <krdyt> i just installed winxp on an already dual booted ubuntu machine, when i loaded ubuntu live and reinstalled grub, i didnt get my grub menu back, can anyone help me with that?
[05:04] <webbb82> i know n o one talks in there
[05:04] <stick_figure> trip0, is there a line in my sources.list to uncomment?
[05:04] <krdyt> i have jaunty and xp on one HDD and intrepid on another
[05:05] <trip0> stick_figure: yes, uncomment the backporst one
[05:05] <trip0> :P
[05:05] <IceMansicle> I have a question. I currently have my compy setup with two partitions. one setup as XP and one as Ubuntu. I was using it to test it out. how do I drop XP and combine the partitions
[05:05] <trip0> IceMansicle: use gparted
[05:05] <IcemanV9> metajemo: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[05:05] <IdleOne> webbb82: probably because they are dealing with xorg issues and pulseaudio issues, google-gadgets is low on the totem pole
[05:05] <IceMansicle> thanks trip
[05:05] <Flannel> IceMansicle: Fire up a liveCD, delete the windows partitions and expand the Ubuntu ones.  The only thing you might need to do then is tweak GRUB slightly
[05:05] <webbb82> ya
[05:05] <Shinka> Is Ubuntu 9.10 stable enough to be used ? I'm on a ThinkPad laptop and graphics are terribly slow, apparenly this problem is solved in Ubuntu 9.10...
[05:06] <IdleOne> !karmic | Shinka
[05:06] <IcemanV9> metajemo: i gotta sign off; need sleep for being primary on-call. i hope you can get it working. good luck.
[05:06] <IdleOne> Shinka: wait another month till it is released
[05:06] <lstarnes> Shinka: it hasn't been officially released yet, but it's in the late alpha stages and will likely enter beta soon
[05:07] <IdleOne> lstarnes: on the 1st
[05:07] <IdleOne> on or about*
[05:07] <krdyt> which grub mbr do i want to reinstate in that case?
[05:08] <stick_figure> no joy, the backports (jaunty-backports) line is uncommented, I did apt-get update, and I can't install automake-1.11
[05:08] <LinuxGuy2009> I was wondering if anyone knows what it signifies when a package has the "+" symbol in the name? The language packs to be specific is what i am speaking of. When I put new updates onto my flashdrive updates repository disk and then go and try to install them all, they all seem to install fine except for the language packs. Synaptic always throws a broken package fit with them and am forced to download them. I need this for offline package management.
[05:09] <krdyt> anyone able to point me into the right direction?
[05:10] <deeproot> does anyone know of any documents on how to upgrade 9.04 to gnome 2.28?
[05:10] <darkham> krdyt, what's the problem?
[05:10] <LinuxGuy2009> I dont understand why it wants to keep downloading the exact same language pack that i already have on the repo flashdrive for updates. Only thing i can think of is maybe the + in the name signifies to always look for a new version online maybe?
[05:10] <Flannel> deeproot: Wait for 9.10
[05:10] <MattC99> hey guys.
[05:11] <Tvmbledown> So, I have an interesting question.
[05:11] <Tvmbledown> One I've scoured a number of sources for - and so far, no luck.
[05:11] <krdyt> i had 2 installs of ubuntu, jaunty on one HDD, interepid on another. i needed win xp for adobe photoshop so i installed winxp onto the drive that jaunty is on
[05:11] <Tvmbledown> How can I install a program (let's say Singularity) to a flash drive, such that it can be played on other Debian systems?
[05:11] <krdyt> DarkHam now i need the grub to list them all
[05:12] <MattC99> i just installed 9.04 and my drivers dont work.. how can i make all the special effects work with out drivers?
[05:12] <Tvmbledown> Alternately, how can I put something a flash drive so that I can INSTALL it to another Ubuntu box - one without any kind of network?
[05:12] <darkham> krdyt, what problem it have?
[05:13] <Tactical_Chicken> killed his jaunty boot prolly
[05:13] <Tactical_Chicken> lol
[05:13] <krdyt> i dont even get my grub menu anymore to select which os to boot darkham
[05:13] <Tactical_Chicken> cuz mbr got overwritten
[05:13] <krdyt> im on jaunty right now
[05:14] <krdyt> i dont care about the jaunty, i want intrepid. all files are there for all 2 OS
[05:14] <anto9us> Tvmbledown, maybe compile it from source, install to flash, make sure it has dependencies on target system or in your target folder, or see http://portableapps.com/apps
[05:15] <Tvmbledown> I'm a little behind the learning curve on dependencies, honestly...
[05:15] <Tactical_Chicken> ya.... i made that mistake b4....i just used a live cd and grabbed all my files off and then reinstalled linux
[05:15] <stick_figure> blech, I give up, I just added the karmic line to sources.list and now I can install automake1.11.  Unfortunately it depends on upgrading a bazillion things.
[05:15] <krdyt> i want to install my MBR grub with intrepid on it
[05:15] <Tactical_Chicken> seemed easier to me than tryin to figure out how to repair the grub
[05:16] <anto9us> Tvmbledown, maybe have a bootable flash drive with your app already installed
[05:16] <krdyt> title		Ubuntu 9.04, kernel 2.6.28-13-generic (on /dev/sda1)
[05:16] <krdyt> root		(hd0,0)
[05:16] <krdyt> thats my jaunty partition
[05:16] <darkham> krdyt, watch grub.conf
[05:16] <Tactical_Chicken> windows MUST go on first and then linux.....so that linux can write the mbr
[05:17] <Tvmbledown> anto9us: That's actually a BRILLIANT idea.
[05:17] <dragonlyre_AWAY> 0
[05:17] <stick_figure> Tactical_Chicken, I think you can just say 'grub-install /dev/sdX' or some similar
[05:17] <anto9us> Tvmbledown, it's sometimes a good idea to look at things sideways :)
[05:17] <Tactical_Chicken> from the livecd?
[05:17] <krdyt> /boot/grub/stage1
[05:17] <stick_figure> that will put grub back in the boot sector
[05:18] <krdyt> but im not sure which partition to restore
[05:18] <sak> will any one tell me how 2 download yahoo messenger for upuntu
[05:18] <stick_figure> either from the livecd or from any Ubuntu
[05:18] <krdyt> i have 2 grubs and only use 1. win xp over wrote them
[05:18] <stick_figure> I don't really know these things for sure, but look up grub-install and check how you're supposed to use it
[05:18] <Tactical_Chicken> doh@me
[05:18] <krdyt> well, took control, they are still there untouched
[05:19] <stephen_> any suggestions for my printer?|
[05:19] <krdyt> whats the command to tell me what drives i have?
[05:19] <sak> i want yahoo messenger for upuntu...
[05:19] <Tvmbledown> anto9us: Gratias tibi ago.
[05:19] <anto9us> sak, pidgin supports yahoo protocol and many others, all in one convenient application
[05:20] <BassKozz> Ever since I upgraded to Jaunty my Graphics performance has been absolute CRAP, and I can't even get compiz working... My laptop has an ATI Radeon X1400 graphics card.  It it my understanding that it's now using OpenSource drivers, and when I go to "System>Hardware Drivers" nothing shows up.  Am I SOL?
[05:20] <Tactical_Chicken> ya...pidgin is awesome
[05:20] <sak> can any one help me up here.......
[05:21] <Tactical_Chicken> sak: .... use pidgin
[05:22] <soreau> BassKozz: What is the output of 'glxinfo|grep renderer'?
[05:22] <Tactical_Chicken> look what anto9us said to you
[05:22] <sak> but i refer yahoo only was there any link 2 download it
[05:23] <lstarnes> sak: pidgin supports yahoo
[05:23] <Tactical_Chicken> no..yahoo does not exist..... if you want it to use yahoo in linux then you have to use pidgin
[05:23] <sak> k fine i try ........
[05:23] <anto9us> sak, http://messenger.yahoo.com/ directly from the web
[05:23] <BassKozz> soreau: http://pastebin.com/m3dbc991a
[05:23] <lstarnes> sak: you could also try running the windows version of yahoo's messenger in wine
[05:23] <Tactical_Chicken> LOL
[05:24] <Tactical_Chicken> bet he ends up likin pidgin better than yahoo client
[05:24] <soreau> BassKozz: Your drivers are b0rken. If you would like to come to #compiz and pastebin your X log, I will help you further
[05:25] <BassKozz> soreau: AWESOME... on my way...
[05:25] <remyo> Can you cat a file with color. Similar to grep --color?
[05:26] <Desconhecida> alguem fala portugues aqui???
[05:26] <Eevee> remyo: what would the colors be..?
[05:26] <stick_figure> ugh, adding that karmic line was a bad call.  Now my deps are all messed up, and things won't install.  Is there some kind of --force option?
[05:26] <lstarnes> !pt | Desconhecida
[05:27] <Desconhecida> lstarnes ^^ tkx
[05:27] <remyo> Eevee: I don't know. I was thinking very basic syntax highlighting
[05:27] <Tactical_Chicken> LOL
[05:27] <remyo> Eevee: Or at least something to break up code
[05:27] <Eevee> remyo: ahh, I just pipe to vim
[05:27] <webbb82> real quick whats the command to edit sources list
[05:27] <webbb82> gedit sourceslist?
[05:27] <lstarnes> webbb82: graphically?
[05:27] <webbb82> eithor
[05:28] <lstarnes> webbb82: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:28] <webbb82> is there a best way
[05:28] <remyo> Eevee: Ok, I just find using cat quicker than opening vi and then exiting
[05:28] <webbb82> lstarnes, thank you
[05:28] <lstarnes> webbb82: how you edit it is usually a matter of personal preference
[05:29] <Eevee> remyo: yeah it's a minor roadblock.  there might be some way to coerce vim to act like a pager (or a plugin/script to do that)
[05:29] <kitty_> one of my network "clients" for my iptables software router is a hardware wireless ap, and everytime a wireless client tries to connect to the internet, i block it with some weird errors, anyone want to slap me in the right direction?
[05:30] <LogicFan> i have a ext3 partition currently set to auto-mount at boot with the mount point of /media/hdd.  However, I've been trying to find a way to auto-mount it with read/write permissions without having to chmod the mount point directory manually.  as a work around, i currently mount the partition in my home-directory.  is this possible?
[05:31] <kitty_> [ 3138.759697] martian source <IP_ADDRESS> from <IP_ADDRESS>, on dev eth0
[05:31] <neil_d> ok I have some emails in /var/mail/neil  but when I use telnet on port 110 and thunderbird to ask for those email I get the answer that there are no email :(  it appears that dovecot is being used to do the pop handling.. what is wrong?
[05:32] <Kynian> Can anyone help me out? Im trying to install shorewall on a fresh install of the most recent ubuntu server edition, every time i try sudo aptitude install shorewall, i tell it yes, and then it gives me the error Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main shorewall 4.0.15-1
[05:32] <Kynian>   Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[05:32] <Kynian> can anyone tell me how I can get it to work?
[05:32] <Eevee> resolves fine here
[05:32] <Eevee> your dns down?
[05:32] <SnakDoc> any of you ever run multi user screen ?
[05:32] <Kynian> hmm one sec
[05:35] <Kynian> ahh thanks Eevee, I had done something wrong with one of my network files, went back and fixed it now its working. thanks a bunch
[05:35] <SnakDoc> never mind found how to enter comands into screen use the ctrl + a then : command
[05:36] <abhilashm86> i installed jaunty, in compiz, i enabled top, bottom images, also different wallpapers in each worlspace, but nothing is seen, but cube and other effects are working, help please
[05:36] <abhilashm86> i checked with ./comiz-check, no problems
[05:37] <losher> kitty_: 'martian' ip addresses are either unroutable or owned by someone else. Check who allocates addresses to your clients and make sure it's not handing out duplicates or illegal addresses...
[05:37] <soreau> abhilashm86: Set the cubecaps in Cube Reflection and Deformation and disable nautilus from drawing the desktop with 'gconftool-2 --type bool --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop false'
[05:37] <webbb82> i need some ideas i want to have a most used commands on hot key so if i need to know how to do a command i can just hit a key combo and see my list
[05:37] <abhilashm86> why is images not been seen in top and wallpapers?
[05:38] <kitty_> losher its a hardware ap using its own dhcp server
[05:38] <ZykoticK9> abhilashm86, FYI only -- you can't have different wallpaper on each workspace unless you disable Nautilus from drawing your background (meaning you can't see ANY icons on your desktop)
[05:38] <losher> kitty_: dunno what else to tell you, you've already heard everything I know about martians...
[05:38] <abhilashm86> soreau: yea i disabled it, in gconf-editor->nautilus
[05:39] <soreau> abhilashm86: and?
[05:39] <abhilashm86> soreau: i got the error, i've mounted my hard drives in different names, now i'm changing it in compiz!! thanks i'l just do n reply..........
[05:40] <mack> Would anyone be willing to talk me through adding a native Linux driver to my system.  I've just transitioned from windows
[05:40] <nomad111> hi, is anyone running enlightenment desktop? where can i get engage for e17?
[05:40] <Jordan_U> mack: What hardware?
[05:41] <losher> kitty_: either the dhcp server is misconfigured and handing out non-unique or otherwise illegal addresses, or whoever is objecting to the martian addresses is giving you false positives. I hope this helps...
[05:41] <Terry> i need hep with windows 7, where to go?
[05:41] <mack> dlink wireless usb
[05:41] <user01> what is the name of the deskbar which is mac style?
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Terry: ##windows
[05:41] <Terry> how
[05:41] <Terry> ##windows
[05:41] <Jordan_U> Terry: type "/join ##windows" and hit enter
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> user01, Avant? AWN for short?
[05:41] <mack> I have the Linux driver, which they provided, but don't know how to add it.
[05:41] <metajemo> i know have shockwave 9 and 10 plugins for mozilla. how can i remove the 9 version, olease
[05:41] <Terry> thanx...done.
[05:42] <mack> Terry?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> mack: If a driver came with the hardware then that driver is also most likely already in Ubuntu.
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> metajemo, they are both probably from the same plugin -- you kinda want both to be able to play both's contents
[05:43] <mack> It wouldn't recognize the device.
[05:43] <losher> mack: what device is it?
[05:43] <mack> I can install with ndiswrapper, but I'd like to use the native driver
[05:44] <Jordan_U> mack: What is the chipset of the card ( you should be able to find it with lsusb ) and what is the name of the driver they provide?
[05:44] <kruykaze> how do i upgrade to karmic and keep my apps installed?
[05:45] <Flannel> kruykaze: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic questions, thanks.
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> mack, are you sure your Dlink isn't supported through Ubuntu's native Hardware Drivers interface?  Have you first installed all available updates?
[05:45] <losher> kruykaze: if you have to ask, you aren't ready for karmic anyway...
[05:46] <kruykaze> :)
[05:46] <mack> I pulled the driver from their site, I can find chipset if you really need it, driver's name is wpa_supplicant-0.5.10.tar.gz .  I am really new to Linux, so I don't know what to do with a tar .  Silly, I know.
[05:46] <kruykaze> I was not going to do it until the stable is out
[05:47] <theblue> hi all.
[05:47] <losher> kruykaze: that'll be a while if 9.04 is anything to go by...
[05:47] <mack> I've installed all available updates already
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> anyone happened to get the game Total Annihilation working through wine on a 64bit 9.04?  it works flawlessly for me under 32bit 9.04.
[05:48] <theblue> i've got an hp mini 1035nr, and i'm running UNR Jaunty, and i'm not getting any audio at all.
[05:48] <Bluey> TheBlue -- Hey
[05:48] <theblue> yo, Bluey
[05:48] <kruykaze> losher, the question just popped in my mind so asked
[05:49] <losher> kruykaze: fair enough. My advice is, it's really not ready for primetime, so don't bother yet...
[05:49] <metajemo> ZykoticK9: Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999 and Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32. Do i really need them both?
[05:49] <baio> hola
[05:50] <baio> hi
[05:50] <Jordan_U> kruykaze: When a new version is released you will see an offer to upgrade in System > Administration > Update Manager
[05:50] <Bluey> jello
[05:50] <mack> Zykotick9, when I use the native Hardware Drivers Interface, nothing stated, no proprietary driver in use
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> MetaBot, i'd recommend you just leave them both - but it's up to you
[05:50] <kruykaze> losher, it was more of a general question every 6mo i upgrade but use the cd to avoid problems.how do i at least keep a list of the installed stuff to reinstall it
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> mack have you run all the updates with a wired connection?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> mack: wpa_supplicant is not a driver
[05:51] <legend2440> kruykaze: in terminal type   sudo update-manager -d
[05:51] <losher> mack: have you tried installing the wpasupplicant package in the repositories?
[05:51] <webbb82> whats your fav txt editor??????
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> webbb82, OT (but vi rules!)
[05:51] <losher> kruykaze: there's a trick to getting the list of installed stuff so you can reinstall later. I
[05:51] <kruykaze> legend2440, that always breaks stuff for me like my wifi drivers for example etc..
[05:51] <baio> hola
[05:51] <baio> hola
[05:51] <webbb82> ZykoticK9, whats ot
[05:51] <Jordan_U> mack: It won't help you at all if you card isn't recognized ( and a better supported version of wpa_supplicant comes with Ubuntu )
[05:52] <Sakara> fresh install of 9.04 on boot "GRUB " floods the screen over and over again. want to try use a different boot loader. can anyone help me do this
[05:52] <lstarnes> webbb82: off-topic
[05:52] <webbb82> whats vi then
[05:52] <lstarnes> webbb82: an editor
[05:52] <Jordan_U> mack: Can you pastebin the output from running "lsusb" in a terminal?
[05:52] <ZykoticK9> webbb82, opened ended questions like "what's your fav..."
[05:52] <lstarnes> webbb82: vim is usually used instead of vi, but it's based on vi
[05:53] <losher> kruykaze: there's actually a trick to getting the list of installed stuff so you can reinstall later. It's in the dpkg man page at the end under EXAMPLES. See dpkg --get-selections
[05:53] <mack> Jordan - Just for the heck of it, how would I install a file like this?  Do I use a command line?
[05:53] <webbb82> ya i like to stimulate conversationg that way
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Sakara: I would try using grub2
[05:53] <drebes> hello there.
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> lstarnes, webbb82 OH ya - in Ubuntu the FIRST thing you need to do is install VIM - arrow keys are very ugly with the default!
[05:54] <theblue> i've got an hp mini 1035nr, and i'm running UNR Jaunty, and i'm not getting any audio at all.  what should i do?
[05:54] <webbb82> ZykoticK9,  vim is the whole name?
[05:54] <lstarnes> webbb82: yes
[05:54] <lstarnes> webbb82: it's short for vi improved, but is almost always called vim
[05:55] <webbb82> cool thanks
[05:55] <Jordan_U> mack: You generally shouldn't install this type of file, instead you should install with apt-get of fing a .deb file. If you want to try installing that file, which will break things since wpa_supplicant is alreadu installed, you would have to use the terminal
[05:55] <krdyt> where is the ubuntu help chan?
[05:55] <lstarnes> krdyt: this is it
[05:55] <krdyt> oh
[05:55] <losher> mack: you would uncompress and untar it, then compile it and install it. A lot of work for a complete beginner and probably the wrong thing to do...
[05:56] <ZykoticK9> webbb82, do NOT install vim!  It's not mean for 'normal' human beings to use.  it's a very old vashioned editor, you wont like it at all!  but the vi/emacs rivalry in the 'nix world have been going on forever - now there are lots of choices for text editing :)  enjoy linux
[05:56] <krdyt> can you help me make my windows partition show up in grub lstarnes ?
[05:56] <kruykaze> dpkg --get-selections >myselections ?
[05:56] <drebes> I'm trying to recompile the kernel packages in Jaunty, but I can't install the linux-kernel-devel package.
[05:56] <lstarnes> krdyt: I am not good at configuring grub. sorry
[05:57] <hey_boy> guys, which is the best backup program in Ubuntu 9.04. For personal files.
[05:57] <krdyt> it under /dev/sda3 and jaunty is in /dev/sda1-5, anyone know?
[05:57] <hey_boy> I see a lot of them
[05:57] <losher> kruykaze: that's the one. Try it. It will generate a list of all currently installed packages and their states.
[05:57] <kruykaze> awesome thanks i will try it as soon as i get home :)
[05:57] <Sakara> Jordan_U: Can grub2 be installed onto a system that is unbootable?
[05:58] <lstarnes> krdyt: sda3 is probably (hd0,2)
[05:58] <Jordan_U> mack: Something like "sudo apt-get install build-essential && sudo apt-get build-dep wpasupplicant" then "tar -xf filename.tar" then "cd < directory that was just created >" then "./configure && make && sudo make-install"
[05:58] <mack> Jordan, Losher- I got it, bad idea.
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Yes
[05:59] <losher> mack: and the wrong solution for your problem. What is the device you're trying to get working?
[05:59] <ZykoticK9> krdyt, if jaunty is really sda1-5 - that means sda1 sda2 sda3 sda3 sda4 sda5, why does it take up 5 paritions when it usuually only takes 1?
[05:59] <theblue> webbb82, by the way, i'd recommend installing vimtutor as well.
[05:59] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Do you know what chroot means?
[05:59] <krdyt> jaunty is sda 1 2 4 5
[05:59] <mack> It's a Dlink usb wireless card
[05:59] <krdyt> xp took sda3
[06:00] <Sakara> to some extent
[06:00] <krdyt>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:00] <krdyt> /dev/sda1               1        6327    50821596   83  Linux
[06:00] <krdyt> /dev/sda2            6328        6589     2104515    5  Extended
[06:00] <krdyt> /dev/sda3   *        6590       19451   103314015    7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:00] <krdyt> /dev/sda5            6328        6589     2104483+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:00] <FloodBot3> krdyt: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <krdyt> sorry ;\
[06:01] <krdyt> there is not sda4
[06:01] <losher> ZykoticK9: krdyt: actually, I would expect 3 partitions to be in use. root, home and swap. Given that 4 is an extended partition, and 5 is a logical partition inside it, things look normal...
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> krdyt, jaunty is technically on sda1 and a linux swap is on sda5
[06:01] <Sakara> Jordan_U: I simply mount the drive from a live session chroot and apt-get grub2?
[06:01] <mack> Does this make sense:  Runing the scripts accomplish all operations including building up modules
[06:01] <mack> from the source code, installing driver to the kernel and starting up the nic.
[06:01] <mack> 	1. Build up the drivers from the source code
[06:01] <mack> 	  make
[06:01] <mack> 	2. Install the driver to the kernel
[06:01] <FloodBot3> mack: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <mack>           make install
[06:01] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Almost
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> mack, you need to use Pastebin
[06:01] <mack> Thanks Floodbot3
[06:02] <losher> krdyt: didn't grub install an entry for windows automatically when you installed Ubuntu?
[06:02] <krdyt> ok so to add that to my grub list what would i do for it to boot xp?
[06:02] <krdyt> no it screwed everything up
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Sakara: You First have to bind mount /proc /sys and /dev, so if your Ubuntu partition is mounted to /media/disk that would be "sudo mount -o bind /proc /media/disk/proc && sudo mount /dev /media/disk/dev && sudo mount /sys /media/disk/sys"
[06:03] <losher> krdyt: which version of Ubuntu did you install?
[06:03] <krdyt> i have 2 HDD with 2 ubuntu installs, i halved the jaunty since i dont use it often then it overran all and didnt add to anything
[06:03] <grim4593> does anyone have a good suggestion for a wireless usb stick? I'd prefer someone have one that is verified to work in linux before i go out and buy one.
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Sorry, forgot the "-o bind" in the second two mount commands
[06:03] <krdyt> i installed XP over Jaunty
[06:03] <krdyt> well not over but on same disk seperate partition
[06:04] <cchen> grim4593: i am using Linksys WUSB610N
[06:04] <vxr> krdyt:  do u use wubi or what ?
[06:04] <grim4593> ok
[06:04] <mack> Okay, thanks guys, I guess I'm going to educate myself for a while and come back when I'm not quite so ignorant.  Peace!
[06:04] <krdyt> no vxr
[06:04] <Jordan_U> grim4593: PCI cards are much more likely to be supported than USB dongles
[06:04] <grim4593> does it work out of the box, or do you need mdis?
[06:04] <grim4593> i know.
[06:05] <vxr> krdyt: oh, oke.
[06:05] <krdyt> everythings been find since jaunty was released
[06:05] <cchen> grim4593: it works right out of box.
[06:05] <grim4593> okay. i'll look into it then
[06:05] <krdyt> then i used gparted live to halve my jaunty partition because i NEED xp
[06:05] <grim4593> well, i already have a dlink pci card that works great. i had a netgear usb adapter, but i had to give it to a friend.
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> grim4593, i keep a Netgear WG111v2 lying around just in case - which works under 9.04 for sure
[06:05] <krdyt> so xp is still here, just not in grub boot menu
[06:05] <grim4593> that is exactly what i had.
[06:06] <grim4593> i might jsut get another one.
[06:06] <losher> krdyt: you can try adding a windows xp entry by hand to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:06] <grim4593> hmm. newegg only has V3's
[06:06] <ag3ntugly> the alfa awus036h works with 9.04 :-)
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> krdyt, this post might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192435
[06:07] <krdyt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/277620/
[06:07] <Sakara> Jordan_U: /dev/sda1 -> /media/ubuntu, /proc -> /media/ubuntu/proc, /sys -> /media/ubuntu/sys, /dev -> /media/ubuntu/dev   all done
[06:07] <pepee> hola
[06:07] <Sakara> Jordan_U: chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bad?
[06:08] <drebes> anyone has recompiled the kernel packages in ubuntu?
[06:08] <Eevee> I installed karmic alpha 6 on an acer aspire 1410, wiping the drive and partitioning it into / (ext4), swap, and /home (ext4).  it fails to boot with 'ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<uuid> does not exist.'  but that is the correct uuid and it *does* exist according to the initramfs shell I'm dropped to
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Ok, now chroot in and "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"
[06:08] <pepee> tengo un USB bluetooth y no me anda bien desde que instalé blueman :(
[06:08] <Sakara> Jordan_U: ok awesome will try it
[06:08] <krdyt> in that pastebin sdb is my intrepid install
[06:08] <pepee> sorry, forgot this is for english
[06:08] <krdyt> im not sure where or how to add a windows loader in grub
[06:09] <powertool08> Is there a way to use samba without opening ports 139 and 445?
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Sakara: It will ask if you want to chainload grub2 or install it, since grub-legacy isn't loading chainloading won't work so choose the option to install grub2 replacing grub-legacy
[06:09] <Sakara> Jordan_U: makes sense
[06:09] <ZykoticK9> Eevee, i think you want the irc channel #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <pepee> I have a USB bluetooth adapter, but it doesn't work since i installed blueman :(
[06:10] <Eevee> I'm not sure it's strictly a karmic thing; googling turns up reports going back years, but never with a concrete cause or solution
[06:11] <krdyt> losher, here is my grubloader http://paste.ubuntu.com/277621/ would the last 5 lines work?
[06:11] <trpr> i haven't upgraded in awhile (running 7.10). whats the process for dist-upgrading to the latest version?
[06:11] <Sakara> Jordan_U: fingers crossed now. rebooting
[06:12] <krdyt> or should i use (hd0,2)?
[06:12] <Sakara> alright problem again
[06:12] <lstarnes> trpr: you might want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Gutsy
[06:12] <losher> krdyt: Yes, I would change root (sda3,0) to root (hd0,2)
[06:12] <losher>
[06:12] <Jordan_U> Eevee: It probably is a karmic specific bug, please ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:12] <lstarnes> trpr: gutsy (7.10) is no longer supported, but it can be upgraded
[06:12] <Sakara> instead of the "GRUB " repeated over and over again i get "GRUB " and thats it
[06:13] <Eevee> alright
[06:13] <axle> hey, anyone know why a windows woudl go completely unstable and unuseable after 3 days? i just wanted to use vs studios and playsome games etc..
[06:13] <Sakara> Jordan_U: do the same again but try lilo?
[06:13] <axle> i dont get it, 3 days, wtf
[06:13] <RaviResck> !pendrive
[06:13] <RaviResck> !usb
[06:14] <losher> Eevee: if it's really been there for years without a concrete cause or solution, it would be a miracle if someone here tonight magically solved it on this channel...
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> Eevee, I was really just trying to be polite as I have NO ideas on your specific problem AND typically when you are using any BETA versions of Ubuntu support in the main IRC channel is discouraged
[06:14] <Sakara> doesn't make sense that both grub and grub2 won't work
[06:14] <lstarnes> axle: if you need help with windows, please join ##windows and ask there.  This channel is for ubuntu only
[06:14] <Eevee> losher: hahaha touché
[06:14] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Do you only have one drive in your machine?
[06:14] <Sakara> I have 2 drives in there
[06:15] <Eevee> ZykoticK9: whoa, just hoping someone more familiar with the linux boot process might be around and wasn't aware of +1
[06:15] <krdyt> ill try losher brb.  that cant brick my install can it? im hoping a removal is worst case scenario
[06:15] <brummbaer> evening everybody. I'm having difficulty sharing a HP Deskjet F4200 printer from my Ubuntu machine with WinVista, and have already tried all the suggestions in the ubuntu docs and several 'jfgi' solutions. help!
[06:15] <Sakara> Jordan_U: can remove one of them its just files from an old windows install i am replacing with ubuntu
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> Eevee, hint for next time - don't mention your version right away ;)
[06:15] <Eevee> duly noted  8)
[06:15] <losher> krdyt: as long as you don't mess up the rest of the file, you should be fine. Make a copy of your /boot/grub/menu.lst before you edit, just in case...
[06:15] <trpr> lstarnes: thanks
[06:15] <Sakara> but at some point would like to have that drive in there to move users files back onto the machine
[06:16] <axle> lstarnes
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Sakara: It's worth trying without the other drive, in fact grub could have been installed to the second hard drive's MBR
[06:16] <axle> lstarnes: im asking their, im not sure they know
[06:16] <lstarnes> axle: well we most likely won't
[06:16] <krdyt> i did losher  brb. thanks
[06:16] <Sakara> ok thats
[06:17] <Sakara> a little weird but i guess possible
[06:17] <Sakara> will try and let you know
[06:17] <Sakara> only one drive plugged in Jordan_U and you were correct
[06:18] <Sakara> I now get a Hard Disk Error, DISK BOOT FAILURE message
[06:20] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Try bind mounting and chrooting again but this time run "grub-install /dev/sdX"
[06:21] <legend2440> .
[06:21] <Aalinux> man mkinitrd, mkinitrd command not found. Why?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: Use update-initramfs instead
[06:22] <Sakara> grub-install will install the default grub?
[06:22] <powerpc> what program is settings>admin>display?
[06:22] <powerpc> or prefs>display
[06:22] <lstarnes> Aalinux: or mkinitramfs
[06:22] <lstarnes> powerpc: gnome-display-properties?
[06:23] <Aalinux> I was trying to do this .  # mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.25 2.6.25 from http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/compiling-linux-kernel-26.html
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Since you have the grub2 package installed in the chroot it will install grub2
[06:23] <Aalinux> Compiling kernel
[06:23] <Aalinux> kernel 2.6.31
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Sakara: You can install grub-lagacy first if you want
[06:23] <lstarnes> powerpc: it's contained in the gnome-control-center package
[06:23] <Guest36074> Hi all, can someone help me get my wireless working with UNR 9.04 on an acer aspire?
[06:24] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: update-initramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.25 2.6.25    is it ok ?
[06:25] <Sakara> its the drive Jordan_U not the partition on the drive as the parameter for grub-install??
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Yes, it's the drive
[06:25] <Sakara> thanks
[06:25] <Jordan_U> Sakara: np
[06:27] <metajemo> guys, is there a way to leave a message for a user here?
[06:27] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: update-initramfs -o initrd.img-2.6.25 2.6.25    is it ok ?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: update-initramfs -c -k <kernel version>
[06:29] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: Or use mkinitramfs directly like mkinitrd
[06:29] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: What will be the complete command? It's linux-2.6.31,  update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.31  ,    Is it correct now?
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: If the file in /boot is "vmlinuz-2.6.31" then yes
[06:31] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: Yes, there is a file named "vmliz-2.6.31"
[06:32] <AndIrc> hey
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: I'm not sure if update-initramfs will find it if it's named vmliz rather than vmlinuz. Try it, it can't hurt anything
[06:33] <pepee> I have a USB bluetooth adapter, but it doesn't work since i installed blueman :(
[06:33] <pepee> who can help me?
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Any luck with grub?
[06:33] <Sakara> Jordan_U: not yet
[06:34] <Sakara> still getting boot disk failures
[06:34] <pepee> # hciconfig hci0 up           Can't init device hci0: Connection timed out (110)
[06:34] <Sakara> going to downgrade to grub-legacy
[06:34] <Sakara> going to do a fresh install actually now with only the one drive there
[06:35] <pepee> # hciconfig         hci0:   Type: USB         BD Address: 00:00:00:00:00:00 ACL MTU: 0:0 SCO MTU: 0:0        DOWN
[06:35] <shastorm> hi guys
[06:35] <myownserver> Can someone give me advise on my array?  http://pastebin.com/d5d0be164
[06:35] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Make sure that when you put the second drive back in the boot order is correct or grub will still be loaded from the second drive
[06:35] <myownserver> I'm trying to learn this and I'm missing something.
[06:35] <myownserver> Woops, wrong channel.
[06:36] <Sakara> Jordan_U: yup i will play around with that thanks
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Also, for future reference there is an "advanced" option in the installer where you can choose what drive or partition grub should be installed to
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Sakara: np
[06:37] <pope22> I'm looking to install UNR 9.04 on my laptop. It's currently running on my netbook and desktop, but I've been running windows 7 on this one. Is there a way to do so, and preserve my files from windows into the Ubuntu install?
[06:37] <Sakara> Jordan_U: normally i do but was lazy this time because i knew i was going to wipe one drive completely i just let the installed handle it
[06:38] <kosmanthus> hi
[06:38] <accol> hi
[06:39] <pope22> no go on carrying windows files over into my ubuntu install?
[06:39] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: Typo, vmlinuz
[06:39] <DJIndy> hmmm
[06:39] <DJIndy> well this isn't working exactly...
[06:40] <Aalinux> Jordan_U: "(12:50:55 PM) Jordan_U: Aalinux: Or use mkinitramfs directly like mkinitrd"  Can you please post the complete command with mkinitramfs?
[06:40] <Jordan_U> pope22: If you choose to dual boot the installer should offer do import documents and settings from windows
[06:42] <pope22> if I dual boot, then manually transfer the files from the win partition to the ubuntu partition, and then expand the ubuntu parition to utilize the entire disk with gparted from the live CD, is there any (reasonable) chance of data loss on the new larger ubuntu partition?
[06:43] <Eevee> pope22: gparted wouldn't be very useful if it had a high chance of wrecking your partition while resizing!  that should be fine, I did the same thing when I first installed ubuntu
[06:43] <Lucas156> dual boot is the way to go
[06:44] <trakcyia> what is the command arguement for grep that causes the input to ignore special characters in the pattern?
[06:44] <ubuntu> hello I am using livedisc
[06:44] <Lucas156> welcome!
[06:44] <Lucas156> how you like it?
[06:44] <ALT-F4> it looks really nice
[06:45] <pope22> hmmm...is there any decrease in performance playing media from the windows partition inside of ubuntu?
[06:45] <ALT-F4> can it do dual monitors?
[06:45] <losher> trakcyia: man grep will tell you
[06:45] <Lucas156> what os u runnin
[06:45] <Lucas156> i think so
[06:45] <trakcyia> losher, yeah i've spent a good deal of time in there, i want to get this done
[06:45] <tj1111> how do you keep the screensaver from coming on when watching a video fullscreen in vlc?
[06:45] <mrgenericuser> alt-f4: yes, i'm running dual now...
[06:45] <tj1111> on karmic
[06:46] <ALT-F4> how do you make it do that?
[06:46] <losher> trakcyia: in mine, it's -F
[06:46] <ALT-F4> actually don't answer yet
[06:46] <ALT-F4> when it is done installing I will be back
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Aalinux: mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31 2.6.31
[06:46] <ynk> mrgenericuser, please do answer. i'd like to know.
[06:47] <trakcyia> losher thank you, i don't know how i missed that
[06:47] <mrgenericuser> it is easiest if you are running nvidia or ati binary drivers.  the drivers help you set it up.  else i think you have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  there are tutorials out there for that...
[06:47] <ALT-F4> ah, the "restricted" drivers?
[06:48] <mrgenericuser> yes
[06:48] <ALT-F4> okay
[06:48] <mrgenericuser> if nvidia... run 'gksu nvidia-settings'
[06:48] <ALT-F4> that'd be it for me
[06:48] <ALT-F4> I'll remember that when I am finished installing
[06:49] <ALT-F4> thank you so much :)
[06:49] <mrgenericuser> yep
[06:49] <richardcavell> May I ask: What is the dialout group used for?
[06:49] <Sakara> Jordan_U: you might know the answer to this? is there a theme for ubuntu that makes it almost exactly the same as windows xp
[06:49] <Jordan_U> mrgenericuser: Most of the open source drivers support xrandr so you can use System > Preferences > Display to set up dual monitors without touching your xorg.conf manually
[06:50] <Sakara> Jordan_U: my users are older folks who don't like change all that much
[06:50] <Jordan_U> Sakara: It's not going to fool anyone but the redmond theme looks like the classic windows theme
[06:50] <ynk> i'm almost frightened to install the drivers for my graphics card, because whenever i do, my monitor goes blank and i am unable to use Ubuntu again. i then have to reinstall the whole darn thing!
[06:50] <mrgenericuser> kewl, haven't used open source vid drivers in a while.  like 3d hw accel and it wasn't available in open drivers when i started dualing
[06:51] <Sakara> Jordan_U: you will be surprised
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Trying to fool them into thinking it's windows is probably counter productive
[06:51] <ALT-F4> do any of you use the windowmaker desktop environment?
[06:51] <Sakara> Jordan_U: IE to firefox changeover just had to make the icon for firefox the IE one and the complaining about the crap new internet stopped :D
[06:51] <Jordan_U> Sakara: I would only do it if they ask you to
[06:52] <ckc037> hi
[06:52] <ckc037> i got a sound problem
[06:52] <sebsebseb> ynk: which card?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Sakara: What applications do they normally use in windows?
[06:52] <ckc037> when i installed virtualbox
[06:52] <Sakara> firefox
[06:52] <ckc037> Intel 965 Motherboard
[06:52] <Sakara> thats it
[06:52] <ALT-F4> they only use computer for internet?
[06:52] <ckc037> how to reinstall sound drivers
[06:53] <ynk> sebsebseb, an ATI Radeon HD 3200
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Then you may be able to get away with the redmond theme
[06:53] <Sakara> Jordan_U: thanks :D
[06:53] <setuid> How can I disable some services from running each time my machine boots? Like mysql, apache, postfix, dovecot, etc.
[06:53] <sebsebseb> ckc037: You can set up sound for a virtual machine in the Virtualbox settings, also #vbox is the help channel for it
[06:53] <setuid> I want them available, but not every time I boot. How do I do that in a clean way?
[06:53] <sebsebseb> ynk: a pretty new card or?
[06:54] <MasterofPuppets> Anybody available to help me out with a problem really quickly?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Make sure to put a huge Firefox icon on the deskop, or if you absolutely want to kill baby penguins a large IE icon
[06:54] <sebsebseb> !ask | MasterofPuppets
[06:54] <mrgenericuser> i think radeon 3200 is usually integrated isn't it?
[06:54] <ckc037> thanks sebseb
[06:54] <Jordan_U> !boot | setuid
[06:54] <sebsebseb> ckc037: np
[06:55] <MasterofPuppets> sebsebseb: I just upgraded to Karmic, most recent everything, shut down the machine after the upgrade a few hours ago. Now, I turned it on, and it's logged in but half of the stuff isn't loading
[06:55] <ynk> sebsebseb, not at all. it's been around for a while now; i'd say no younger than a year old.
[06:55] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  MasterofPuppets
[06:55] <MasterofPuppets> sebsebseb:And, in system monitor, basically everything says "poll_schedule_timeout" in the waiting channel
[06:55] <MasterofPuppets> Is there any way to revert back to jaunty without deleting files?
[06:55] <sebsebseb> !downgrade |  MasterofPuppets
[06:56] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: clean install
[06:56] <MasterofPuppets> Ick
[06:56] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: having a seperate /home helps with those as well
[06:56] <sebsebseb> !home |  MasterofPuppets
[06:56] <MasterofPuppets> Do you think it would let me partition it while everything is hanging?
[06:56] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: this isn't the channel for Karmic help, since the final hasn't been released yet
[06:56] <Sakara> Jordan_U:    =D after a while i changed it back to the firefox icon they complained until i showed then it was exactly the same thign when they clicked the firefox icon and IE icon *taps nose*
[06:57] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: and I am not sure, and  you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:57] <MasterofPuppets> Argh, but update manager forced it on me! Lol
[06:57] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: really?
[06:58] <richardcavell> Hey guys, does it matter if one reassigns the GID of the dialout group?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> ynk: ok are you trying to install a driver like this?  system > administration > hardware drivers
[06:58] <sebsebseb> ynk: or another way?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> ynk: also ATI is a bit bad with  Linux really,  as a result certain people have had ATI graphic card issues in 9.04 and that
[06:58] <sebsebseb> !ati |  ynk
[06:59] <setuid> Jordan_U, thanks, that was what I was after
[06:59] <ynk> sebsebseb, yes i am trying to install whatever drivers it is suggesting me. i had very little control over what it installed. i will check out the links. thanks buddy!
[06:59] <Jordan_U> setuid: np
[06:59] <MasterofPuppets> sebsebseb: Yeah, I was going to upgrade, but then I noticed it was quite rough for other users, so I didn't. But I had it marked to update security stuff automatically, and I think it just did...
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ynk: no problem
[07:00] <sebsebseb> MasterofPuppets: you mean karmic updates
[07:00] <sebsebseb> ?
[07:00] <MasterofPuppets> sebsebseb: No, the "install security updates without confirmation" box is checked
[07:00] <MasterofPuppets> Er, circle
[07:00] <ewp> yo i know its offtopic but if you have a night vision camera/goggles, go outside on a clear night. i bet you'll see a UFO!!! i just saw one tonight
[07:00] <Jordan_U> MasterofPuppets: That only makes sense if you changed the sources.list manually to karmic, which you shouldn't do
[07:01] <MasterofPuppets> Jordan_U: I was playing around a bit with that, so I'm probably at fault
[07:01] <MasterofPuppets> Well, looks like I'm doing a fresh install
[07:02] <brummbaer> anyone good w/ networking with Windows? having a hell of a time sharing a HP Deskjet w/ Vista
[07:02] <Lisoborsky> one question.... to make changes with GParted, i have to use the livecd?
[07:02] <sebsebseb> !cups |  brummbaer
[07:03] <ckc037> guys how to revert or reinstall sound drivers,
[07:03] <Lisoborsky> one question.... to make changes with GParted, i have to use the livecd?
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Lisoborsky: depends on what those changes are,  gparted can't do stuff to  partitions that are mounted
[07:03] <mrgenericuser> brummbaer, did you cut the security on the windows sharing?  are both systems on the same workgroup?
[07:03] <Lisoborsky> sebsebseb: i want to make a partition
[07:03] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  Lisoborsky
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Lisoborsky: and yes it's on the Ubuntu Live CD
[07:04] <brummbaer> yes mrgenericuser, both on same workgroup, dropped the firewall to make sure that's not the problem...
[07:04] <brummbaer> not sure what you mean re: security on windows sharing?
[07:04] <suji> what package need to download torrent file in Ubuntu?
[07:04] <Lisoborsky> ok thanks :D
[07:04] <sebsebseb> Lisoborsky: np
[07:04] <ewp> suji, transmission will download torrents
[07:05] <Sakara> Jordan_U: fresh install failed again "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
[07:05] <mrgenericuser> suji, use transmission, already installed applications>internet>transmission
[07:05] <Sakara> only one drive
[07:05] <suji> it won't work, when i add any torrent file nothing will happen.
[07:05] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Did you get that error during install or at boot?
[07:05] <Sakara> on boot
[07:06] <mrgenericuser> brummbaer, printer on linux share to windows?
[07:06] <Sakara> Jordan_U: I am running out of ideas
[07:06] <brummbaer> mrgenericuser, aye.
[07:07] <fallenpoet> suji - what do you mean nothing is happening? The torrent is not downloading or the torrent isn't showing in the program?
[07:07] <suji> the torrent is not downloading
[07:07] <Jordan_U> Sakara: This is at least a different error than before :)
[07:08] <brummbaer> confirmed printer and server settings set for sharing per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu
[07:08] <Sakara> this is true
[07:08] <fallenpoet> suji - did you check that the torrent isn't dead? or that your router isn't blocking it's port?
[07:09] <suji> fallenpoet: how to check that?
[07:09] <jacquesdupontd> hi
[07:09] <brummbaer> hey mrgenericuser, do you know offhand how to check system workgroup? i've just been setting the workgroup through smb.conf, just realized that probably doesn't affect cupsd
[07:09] <jacquesdupontd> i dont know why but my menu bar has disapeared
[07:10] <fallenpoet> suji - the port or if it's dead?
[07:10] <jacquesdupontd> and i think its since i installed emerald but not sure
[07:10] <jacquesdupontd> where do we set to have a menu bar or not
[07:11] <Sakara> somethign really funky up there Jordan_U. I suspect its hardware related. Its too hot today to be pulling things out of computers this will have to be a job for another time
[07:11] <optimus_t> what is the command to get the list of synaptic packages?
[07:11] <suji> fallenpoet: my listening port is 51413 and it said port is closed
[07:11] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Try upgrading to grub2 again, it might at least give a more helpfull error message4
[07:11] <Jordan_U> !clone | optimus_t
[07:12] <fallenpoet> suji - then you'll need to open that port on your rounter
[07:12] <Jordan_U> optimus_t: Is that what you wanted?
[07:12] <jacquesdupontd> so what about this menu bar is very annoying
[07:12] <optimus_t> Jordan_U: No way near
[07:12] <suji> fallenpoet: how to? i dn't know.
[07:13] <fallenpoet> suji - what router you have?
[07:13] <optimus_t> Jordan_U: But i dind not get u also.
[07:13] <Jordan_U> optimus_t: Ok, please try to explain more clearly what you want
[07:13] <Sakara> Jordan_U: Will do
[07:14] <optimus_t> Jordan_U: Just get an list of packages which are not yet installed on my machine
[07:14] <mrgenericuser> i think that would be fine, but i found this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268245  looks like default cupsd.conf only listens to local machine.  does that help?
[07:14] <suji> fallenpoet: i dn't know about that, it is office system. i dn't have my own system.
[07:14] <suji> fallenpoet:  here how to know?
[07:16] <addisonj> looking for support for a verizon wireless mobile broadband card, anyone gotten those to work?
[07:17] <losher> suji: sorry, but most companies don't want you downloading torrents on to office computers, and deliberately block ports so you can't do it...
[07:18] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Looks like that error is sometimes caused by a buggy bios. A bios update might solve it
[07:18] <suji> losher: oh! okey.
[07:18] <fallenpoet> suji - if you don't have access to the router then you won't be able to open the port. But here is a link when you have access to the router http://portforward.com/
[07:19] <techie> !language
[07:20] <mrgenericuser> brummbaer does changing cupsd.conf listning settings help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268245
[07:20] <suji> fallenpoet: is it won't affect any other things?
[07:21] <fallenpoet> suji - what do you mean?
[07:21] <suji> fallenpoet: sorry nothing...
[07:21] <fallenpoet> suji - ok
[07:23] <chuck_> Hello.
[07:26] <chuck_> Just wondering if anyone knew where a driver can be downloaded for a wusb54gc v.3 usb wireless adpater from linksys?
[07:28] <brummbaer> mrgenericuser, sadly no, that also doesn't do it.
[07:28] <brummbaer> i'm thinking maybe totally uninstall cupsd, samba, hplip, reinstall and start from scratch.
[07:29] <ricew> whats the best way to search google with  strading.com  on its url?
[07:29] <Sakara> Jordan_U: its quite an old system
[07:29] <mrgenericuser> can you share it the other way round?
[07:29] <Sushubh> 4GB swap, 15GB / and rest for /home
[07:29] <jacquesdupontd> i found the answer global menu applet
[07:30] <jacquesdupontd> thx
[07:30] <Sakara> Jordan_U: GA-7VA motherboards were terrible motherboards to begin with never mind 10 years on
[07:30] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Hey I cant boo tmy external CD drive, is there a boot floppy I can create to install Ubuntu?
[07:30] <sebsebseb> ricew: What's that?
[07:30] <ricew> sebsebseb-> im trying to use google to look for a url that contains strading.com
[07:30] <mrgenericuser> i have an hp 1020 that doesn't like linux and has to be shared from windows to work on both
[07:31] <sebsebseb> ricew: what's that for a website?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: you could create a boot floppy to kick off the boot on the CD I guess
[07:31] <Sakara> Jordan_U: grub2 gives same message + "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[07:31] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip, how would I go about doing that?
[07:31] <ricew> sebsebseb-> yes, actually its something like  b???strading.com
[07:31] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip, Im using windows ATM
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: loading opera as we speak ;) lets see what jeeves knows
[07:32] <mechdave> und3rgr0undz3r0, yes, you can use a grub boot disk to boot into linux see --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:32] <sebsebseb> ricew: what kind of website is it?  also your question is off topic  #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:33] <ricew> sebsebseb-> yes it could be in off topic, just curious if one knows the quickest way to search such url with that string on it
[07:33] <sebsebseb> ricew: What is strading.com ?
[07:33] <chuck_> Anyone know anything about getting a driver for a wusb54gc?
[07:33] <brummbaer> well mrgenericuser, i owe you one.
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Have you ever successfully installed linux with this motherboard?
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy
[07:33] <brummbaer> not sure exactly what it was, but it just went through.
[07:33] <brummbaer> w00t!
[07:33] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: jeeves knows all
[07:33] <ricew> sebsebseb-> it has those string on the url, that is not the complete url
[07:33] <Sakara> Jordan_U: many moons ago yes then it became a windows xp workstation for a while now its going back to ubuntu and not wanting to do it
[07:33] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Thanks guys, im gonna give this another go
[07:34] <sebsebseb> ricew: oh
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd_> hm last question
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Sakara: What version of Ubuntu worked before?
[07:34] <mrgenericuser> awesome, glad it worked.... eventually......;)
[07:34] <jacquesdupontd_> i tried to use the remote desktop control between 2 of my computers
[07:34] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: this is better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManager
[07:34] <Sakara> Jordan_U: 5.04
[07:34] <ttyX> anyone using karmic alpha 6?
[07:35] <sebsebseb> !karmic | ttyX
[07:35] <ttyX> I've got a question regarding wireless nhetworking
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: sbm dosnt recognise usb cd drives
[07:35] <jacquesdupontd_> and from the laptop i can see the desktop and connect on it and my mouse is moving but it seems that any click does nothing
[07:35] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip, Tried SMB didnt work! and the link you sent me is for working on an ubuntu box, im using windows
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: the second link uses windows
[07:35] <Sakara> Jordan_U: will try lilo might work and/or give me more descriptive messages
[07:35] <adok> is it possible to pass more then one argument into a command in bash?
[07:35] <ricew> adok yes
[07:35] <chuck_> I've been working on my wireless adapter (unsuccessfully) for about 6 days now. :(
[07:36] <ttyX> for some odd reason it doesn't show my hotspot in under wireless networks
[07:36] <Sushubh> guys. how much space should i devote to / for a HDD size of 130GB
[07:36] <ttyX> is it normal?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: what is the output of: sudo lshw -C network    ?
[07:36] <ricew> chuck-> which chip does your wifi card have?
[07:36] <spartacuz> hi all
[07:36] <adok> ricew, i would like to make something for ssh command, like ssh -l $user -p $port $ip
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Is there a BIOS update available?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: actually use: udo lshw -C network | grep product    ?
[07:36] <und3rgr0undz3r0> SO the grub boot floppy will see my USB CD Drive and let me install Ubuntu?
[07:36] <RPS> will break?
[07:37] <ricew> adok thats perfectly okay, just watch out for bash expansion
[07:37] <ttyX> my wifi adapter gets detected fine
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: no SBM wont see usb cd roms
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd_> could someone answer me ?
[07:37] <jacquesdupontd_> i'm sure it's taking 2 minutes please
[07:37] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ActionParsnip, So i'm screwed?
[07:37] <ricew> !ask | jacquesdupontd
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> jacquesdupontd_: turn off desktop oeefects, is it better?
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: could b=install from USB
[07:37] <chuck_> lshw:
[07:38] <adok> ricew, so in .bashrc this would work like... alias='ssh -l $user -p $port $ip'
[07:38] <mechdave> chuck_, what version is it?
[07:38] <chuck_>  *-network
[07:38] <chuck_>        description: Ethernet interface
[07:38] <chuck_>        product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[07:38] <chuck_>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[07:38] <chuck_>        physical id: 0
[07:38] <chuck_>        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[07:38] <chuck_>        logical name: eth0
[07:38] <chuck_>        version: 02
[07:38] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:38] <chuck_>        serial: 00:24:21:10:56:92
[07:38] <chuck_>        size: 100MB/s
[07:38] <chuck_>        capacity: 1GB/s
[07:38] <chuck_>        width: 64 bits
[07:38] <chuck_>        clock: 33MHz
[07:38] <chuck_>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
[07:38] <silv3r_m00n> I tried to install a modem driver (conexant) and sound(had intel ) stopped working
[07:38] <chuck_>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full ip=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=0 link=yes module=r8169 multicast=yes port=MII speed=100MB/s
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[07:38] <chuck_>   *-network:0
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !paste > chuck_
[07:38] <silv3r_m00n> what shud I do now ?
[07:38] <chuck_>        description: Ethernet interface
[07:38] <chuck_>        physical id: 1
[07:38] <chuck_>        logical name: virbr0
[07:38] <mechdave> chuck_, can you use a patebin next time please
[07:38] <MrSchmo> hey guys my x64 ubuntu video graphics a times acts funny. sometime when watch youtube hd or x264 videos my cpu would spike up high cause video to freeze/slowdown until its unwatchable. this issue comes on randomly until the computer is restarted. any know issue with the intel 4500mhd?
[07:38] <Sakara> looking now
[07:38] <ricew> adok  something like   alias namehere='xxxxx  xxxx'
[07:39] <Sakara> just realised its not got the mother board i thought it did in it
[07:39] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I odnt have usb 2.0 ActionParsnip
[07:39] <sebsebseb> mechdave: he got banned by the looks of it
[07:39] <Sakara> its got a different one will look
[07:39] <RPS> I'm curious to hear any feedback on firefox 3.5 if any one cares to share their experience. By pm is fine as to not bother others
[07:39] <sebsebseb> mechdave: or someone did
[07:39] <jussi01> sebsebseb: nope, not banned, muted for a time.
[07:40] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | RPS
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> chuck_: realtek make source code for drivers to allow you to compile them: http://tinyurl.com/ychl8w5
[07:40] <Sakara> Jordan_U: the bios update is a windows executable
[07:40] <sebsebseb> jussi01: ah ok
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: then go buy one for pence
[07:40] <und3rgr0undz3r0> im using anold laptop with no USB Boot support, 300 mhz CPU 256 ram on windows XP (not sure how it got on here)
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: otherwise, yes you are screwed
[07:40] <Bodsda> Hi, I am looking for a new music player. I do not like vlc or totem for music and rhythmbox is getting old, I also do not wish to have to install a bucket of kdelibs to be able to run it. Can anyone make some suggestions?
[07:40] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Generally you create a FreeDOS boot floppy for BIOS upgrades
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> und3rgr0undz3r0: you could take the drive out and buy a cable to install the OS in a regular PC, you can then transfer the HDD to the lapyop
[07:41] <jussi01> !players
[07:41] <jussi01> Bodsda: ^^
[07:41] <silv3r_m00n> I tried to install hsf modem driver >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Conexant   and after installation no sound .....how to reverse it ?
[07:41] <Jordan_U> und3rgr0undz3r0: Have you tried wubi?
[07:41] <Bodsda> jussi01: your personal preference out of those would be?
[07:41] <SemiSonic> Anyone know what the command lines are for Wubi.. I need to change the tmp directory it uses
[07:41] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Jordan_U, I want a full ubuntu computer, not the weird Wubi installer, this HD is only 6gb
[07:41] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: try: wubi.exe /?
[07:41] <Sakara> whats a floppy :D
[07:41] <balqiyah> j
[07:41] <ricew> SemiSonic-> i dont think  you can, its hard coded
[07:42] <jussi01> Bodsda: depends on the use case. banshee is nice, there are lots of nice ones - try them out!
[07:42] <SemiSonic> I have tried that
[07:42] <SemiSonic> bugger
[07:42] <Jordan_U> und3rgr0undz3r0: It's possible to go from wubi to a full install
[07:42] <Bodsda> jussi01: ok, cheers... just one other thing, can any of them be themed?
[07:42] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Jordan_U, Really? have you got a link?
[07:42] <jussi01> Bodsda: no idea, but I guess most of them respect gtk themeing
[07:42] <dehqan> good day everyone , what is the best way to connect from one ubuntu 2 another for having another command line ?
[07:42] <SemiSonic> Thanks
[07:43] <ricew> SemiSonic-> perhaps one you got it running you try the mount command the rebind /tmp
[07:43] <Bodsda> jussi01: yeah, ok cheers :)
[07:43] <ricew> SemiSonic-> perhaps once* you got it running you try the mount command the rebind /tmp
[07:43] <SemiSonic> Yep tried that :)
[07:43] <SemiSonic> set TMP=Xxxx
[07:43] <Jordan_U> und3rgr0undz3r0: There's also a Debian installer that will replace windows from windows without extra boot media: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
[07:43] <SemiSonic> Stupid thing keeps saying pemission denied
[07:43] <ricew> SemiSonic-> nope, tmpfs not setting TMP
[07:43] <jussi01> Bodsda: apt-cache show <package>  - gives you a nice description
[07:43] <sebsebseb> !ssh > dehqan
[07:43] <ALT-F4> hello, this may sound stupid but how do I run nvidia-xconfig as root?
[07:43] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Jordan_U, I'm on a wifi connection with no network support, does it need to be a network supported install?
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: change it in environmental variables. I forget where it is in the OS. Ask in ##windows
[07:44] <und3rgr0undz3r0> unless it can detect by broadcom lol
[07:44] <rlee> anyone aware of why packages are missing during the update from a vanilla jaunty install?
[07:44] <Ian_> ALT-F4: gksudo nvidia-settings
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: once its changed you may need to reboot. You can then install wubi and all its godawfulness then boot to windows to change it back
[07:44] <rlee> i just checked the archive site and the packages aren't there.
[07:44] <Jordan_U> und3rgr0undz3r0: I believe the debian installer needs network support, yes
[07:45] <SemiSonic> haha.. i just wanna try it with dual monitors don't wanna commit fully yet
[07:45] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I'll do some poking around to see if it can detect my broadcom linksys card on the installer
[07:45] <SemiSonic> stupid ATI radeon x1050 don't work with live cd
[07:45] <ALT-F4> You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> und3rgr0undz3r0: http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[07:45] <jussi01> ALT-F4: sudo nvidia-xconfig then :)
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: you can install it to USB. Use that, so much better as you dont have windows rubish to worry about as well
[07:45] <SemiSonic> Well it does work.. but then freeze's after ya login
[07:46] <SemiSonic> MMm thanks ActionParsnip might just do that
[07:46] <PocketIRC> bah
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: you can put the CD on a 1Gb USB stick and be fine
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> SemiSonic: 1Gb USB costs as much as you can find in the back of thesofa
[07:46] <ActionParsnip> *the sofa
[07:47] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Jordan_U, thanks, i'll try to see wich one works better for me
[07:47] <SemiSonic> I got a few laying around here sum where.. *Looks under all the mess* LOL
[07:47] <rlee> these updates are missing in jaunty vanilla upgrade:
[07:47] <rlee> http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/tzdata/tzdata_2009l-0ubuntu0.9.04_all.deb
[07:47] <rlee> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8g-15ubuntu3.2_i386.deb
[07:47] <rlee> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xulrunner-1.9/xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support_<IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[07:47] <rlee> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xulrunner-1.9/xulrunner-1.9_<IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[07:47] <FloodBot3> rlee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <rlee> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/firefox-3.0-gnome-support_3.0.13+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb
[07:47] <ALT-F4> jussi01: same error message
[07:48] <SemiSonic> Thanks.. catch ya
[07:48] <SemiSonic> ;)
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Sakara: Random thing that probably won't work, try booting from the LiveCD and choosing "Boot from first hard disk". It shouldn't be any different but there are reports that it works with at least one buggy BIOS
[07:49] <ALT-F4> thanks for your help :)
[07:49] <ALT-F4> I may be back soon.
[07:50] <hey_boy> where can I edit services in Ubuntu Jaunty?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> !boot | hey_boy
[07:50] <purplefool> so, was here 2 days ago about a dual boot problem.  with my dual boot i get 2 choices, ubuntu (no version) and winxp.  in all the examples there are more choices for which ubuntu should be booted.  with mine i cannot choose a default boot.
[07:51] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I get an error saying it can find files with the debian exe
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> !grub | purplefool reinstall grub
[07:51] <purplefool> can anyone suggest a solution?` have tried to change menu.lst defaults without success.
[07:51] <mechdave> purplefool, what version of Ubuntu have you installed?
[07:51] <Sakara> Jordan_U: can you believe it :D it works
[07:52] <purplefool> ActionParsnip,  and ubottu ...hmmm...ok,  windows was installed first though and that always sounded extreme...
[07:52] <Sakara> Jordan_U: most certainly is a bios problem was able to boot the system no trouble from the CD menu
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: why? it only changes the MBR and checks for bootable OSes. It will set your menu.lst right
[07:53] <purplefool> mechdave, the latest but cannot find the exact numbers right now...
[07:53] <purplefool> act
[07:53] <ActionParsnip> purplefool: its not going to touch windows at all, only menu.lst
[07:53] <mechdave> purplefool, Ok, no worries, can you pastebin the contents of your menu.lst file?
[07:53] <jussi01> purplefool: sudo update-grub
[07:53] <purplefool> ActionParsnip, ok will try it.  i really don't care about windows...just a couple programs are there that i need (grrr...)
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> maybe there are open alternatives
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> or wine
[07:55] <adok> does anybody know how to change the title in gnome-terminal to the hostname in a ssh session?
[07:55] <indus> hi
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> adok: do you mean in the window decorator?
[07:55] <ActionParsnip> hi indus
[07:55] <adok> ActionParsnip, i mean in the tabs
[07:56] <mechdave> G'day indus
[07:56] <purplefool> jussi01, what did i just do?  things were found (no splash) and kernals were discovered...does this do anything?
[07:56] <adok> ActionParsnip, i know i can set to any title, but i would like to make it dynamic
[07:56] <indus> hmm mechdave you too
[07:57] <jussi01> purplefool: it just did a detection of whats available and added it to your menu.lst
[07:57] <hey_boy> is there an alternative to the NetworkManager service in Jaunty?
[07:57] <detuneyourradio> i need some quick help with dual monitors + ati catalyst 9.7 + ubuntu 9.04.  just wondering if it's possible to switch which one is display 1 and which one id display 2?
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> adok: could make a script to make it launch and change automigically
[07:58] <pc001> co_mio
[07:58] <jussi01> w
[07:58] <purplefool> jussi01, and it found the different kernals but these are the ones that come up in a normal dual boot...guess i need to restart to find out if this has affected my boot *sigh*
[07:58] <adok> ActionParsnip, well, its like i want if i start in the Default (local) profile, but then if i so ssh, it doesnt update or shows the path
[07:59] <pc001> co_mio
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> adok: i see your point
[07:59] <ActionParsnip> adok: not sure tbh. I can see how its useful though
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> adok: submit it as a feature request
[08:00] <kubanc> how to look in terminal, if i am using the selected package ?
[08:00] <mrgenericuser> detuneyourradio: you should be able to, though once i had to turn off .2 then restart gdm , the turn it back on, but i have been using nvidia for a while now
[08:00] <adok> ActionParsnip, ye.. i usuaslly do alot of remote sessions, and having a dynamic title would help alot
[08:00] <brand0con> I've installed totem-xine, ubuntu-restricted-extras and vlc but still cant see video for avi files.  any suggestions?
[08:00] <adok> ActionParsnip, thank you, i will
[08:01] <brand0con> I get a badalloc error in the terminal
[08:01] <brand0con> coming from x
[08:02] <Xteven> hi, does anyone know if google calendar read/write support works yet in the latest evolution calendar ?
[08:02] <detuneyourradio> mrgenericuser, thanks, i'll try that!
[08:06] <fallenpoet> brand0con - did you try this how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683 for you avi problem
[08:06] <h1231enry> hello!
[08:06] <fallenpoet> hi h1231enry
[08:07] <eowk223> hello there!
[08:09] <Ileden> Hi! I'm experiencing some weirdness - I have an SD card mounted, and when I disconnect the card without unmounting (for testing purposes), the directory structure is still available, and I can even read contents of a text file! The mount does become read only... is this a feature of LVM (which I'm using on the card)? Should it do this?
[08:10] <ricew> Ileden-> how was it mounted?  type mount
[08:10] <Ileden> ricew: /dev/mapper/vg-lv0 on /media/t type ext4 (rw,commit=600)
[08:11] <Ileden> ricew: It's mounted without any specified mount options. (I'm not sure which mount options I should be using.)
[08:11] <ricew> Ileden-> it could be, i dont know much about logical volume manager
[08:12] <Laughing_God> What is the users friendly OS in linux??Im newbie so what would be easy for beginners???
[08:12] <Ileden> ricew: It doesn't seem to be doing anything wrong, though. When I connect the card and remount it, everything seems ok...
[08:12] <Tvmbledown> Hi, guys. Back with another set of interesting questions.
[08:12] <mrgenericuser> Ileden: i think it's getting cached. always unmount, i've lost entire flash drive contents by not unmounting...
[08:12] <ewp> Laughing_God, it is Ubuntu, of course :-)
[08:13] <Baxtor> Hi guys, wondering if anyone knows a command i can use to auto start a program (conky in this case) 60 seconds after boot?
[08:13] <Ileden> ricew: I'm just worried I'm mounting it wrong and that might cause problems later.
[08:13] <Tvmbledown> I need to install Ubuntu on an EXTREMELY low-end system - an old ThinkPad 600, with a Pentium II and about 128 megs of ram.
[08:13] <Laughing_God> Where can i find the guideline or guideline to use this OS ubuntu?
[08:13] <Bluey> tv - ubuntu server...
[08:13] <ewp> Tvmbledown, then do it
[08:13] <Bluey> comand line only
[08:13] <Tvmbledown> And I need to do it WITHOUT access to the internet.
[08:13] <Ileden> Laughing_God: Mint Linux has some satisfied users too. It's ubuntu based as far a  I know.
[08:14] <Bluey> iirc x requires a min of 256 meg
[08:14] <Tvmbledown> Also, I really really want to be able to run some kind of desktop environment.
[08:14] <Laughing_God> Can i use unbuntu to make shells ?
[08:14] <Tvmbledown> It runs the Mepis variant, AntiX, without much trouble.
[08:14] <Bluey> laughing - shell scripts?
[08:14] <ewp> Laughing_God, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[08:14] <Ileden> mrgenericuser: Yeah, I plan to unmount when _intentionally_ removing the card. :)
[08:14] <LogicFan> Laughing_God, yes.  shells are just shared access accounts on a unix-based machine
[08:14] <Laughing_God> Nop. Making shells
[08:14] <fallenpoet> Baxtor - you would need to make a scrip in which you would put sleep 60
[08:14] <Laughing_God> OIC
[08:15] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, you might be better off with a small footprint system like DSL or similar (DSL = Damn Small Linux)
[08:15] <Baxtor> exactly what i am after, thanks fallenpoet
[08:16] <fallenpoet> Baxtor - no problem
[08:16] <Tvmbledown> mechdave:  I'm actually using AntiX on it, which is a Mepis-based system (still Debian), after trying out DSL.
[08:16] <Laughing_God> People seems to make shells and giving to people using Linux OS.just want to know that is that true?
[08:16] <Ileden> mrgenericuser: problem is, I'd like to be prepared for it to be removed by accident. that is, not losing all the contents...
[08:16] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: However, I have no way of getting internet access on this thing, and I want to add a few games.
[08:17] <Bob_Dole> DSL is basically unsupported now. One of the main devs quit or something.
[08:17] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: I haven't come up with any other way to do it than grabbing the packages on a net-capable machine and installing them... But the packages are ubuntu-specific.
[08:17] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, usb port?
[08:17] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: Got one, so a flash drive is possible, but I can't boot from it - BIOS doesn't support it.
[08:17] <void_pointer> !my | Laughing_God
[08:18] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, that's alright, just download on another computer and then put them on usb stick and transfer to laptop
[08:18] <Laughing_God> I think im more okey with english
[08:19] <bubill> ?
[08:19] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: Yeah... That's what would be pretty awesome, but it hasn't worked like that so far. The packages are Ubuntu-specific, and I'm running into some problems there, mainly dependency-related.
[08:19] <ImGonnaWine> hi, i down loaded wine and installed it. (i think I installed it)  how do I start up wine?
[08:19] <rski> ImGonnaWine: type wine in the terminla and press enter
[08:19] <Bluey> type wine <windowsapplication>
[08:20] <mattcen> Hi all, I'm looking for some information on how to use 'uvesafb' on Jaunty, so that my TTY will support 1680x1050 (my monitor's native resolution). Anybody here able to help?
[08:20] <Laughing_God> kubuntu or ubuntu? What is the diffrents?
[08:20] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, if you go to http://packages.ubuntu.com you can search for packages and it will tell you what packages depend on what
[08:21] <tstebut> Hello
[08:21] <mattcen> Laughing_God: One uses KDE as its default Window Manager, and the other uses GNOME as its default
[08:21] <ImGonnaWine> rski, ok, I saw it.  not a lot of documentation but its a start.  I used doors to down load ie6, how do I fire that up?
[08:21] <Laughing_God>  KDE means what?
[08:21] <Laughing_God> GNOME  means what?
[08:21] <Bluey> gnome is a graphical user interface -
[08:22] <tstebut> Trying to upgrade my intrepid to jaunty, but update-manager doesn't provide this option, why ?
[08:22] <Laughing_God> Okey
[08:22] <ImGonnaWine> why is everything so hard in linux
[08:22] <Laughing_God>  KDE means what??
[08:22] <Bluey> linux allows any - windows only has one
[08:22] <Boohbah> K Desktop Environment, GNU Networked Object Model Environment
[08:22] <rski> ImGonnaWine: i have no idea on howto use winedoors
[08:22] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: Is there a way to do that for Debian systems other than Ubuntu? Specifically in this instance, AntiX (a Mepis variant).
[08:22] <Elone> question?
[08:22] <rski> ImGonnaWine: because you dont know how to do it yet
[08:22] <mattcen> Laughing_God: "K Desktop Environment" www.kde.org  "GNU Object Model Environment" http://www.gnome.org/
[08:22] <Elone> question? can i put swapfile in FAT32 partition?
[08:22] <tstebut> Trying to upgrade my intrepid to jaunty, but update-manager doesn't provide this option, why ?
[08:23] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, yep, try http://packages.debian.org
[08:23] <Boohbah> mattcen: the N is for 'Networked'
[08:23] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Because it's not something (so easy) to be toyed around with. :)
[08:23] <rski> Elone: only if you want to torture yourself
[08:23] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: I may be misunderstanding, but they all look ubuntu-specific.
[08:24] <ImGonnaWine> rski, if linux really wants to be main stream, then ease of use and FULL documentation for non it professionals will be necessary to succeed.
[08:24] <Bluey> i dunno if you can put a swap file on fat 32 - mine says: /dev/sda5: TYPE="swap"
[08:24] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, sorry... hang on for a sec
[08:24] <Boohbah> mattcen: of just 'Network'
[08:24] <rski> ImGonnaWine: ok, is that a question or?
[08:24] <Boohbah> mattcen: but i see they have changed it, so you are right
[08:25] <Ileden> I have a memory card with LVM file system (weirdly enough, this is so I can suspend my laptop with the disk connected...). What mount options should I be using in /etc/fstab for mounting the LVM partition?
[08:25] <ImGonnaWine> rski, whats your point.
[08:25] <mattcen> Boohbah: I just saw it in the little info top that Google popped up above gnome.org; I can't actually find the meaning *on* the site at all though.
[08:25] <Elone> i am thinking have the ~4GB first partition  as pafefile.sys and swap with that so windows and ubuntu can use that as swap~ is that possible?
[08:25] <Guest77426> good morning!
[08:25] <ImGonnaWine> does anyone here know how to use wine? and would they like to assist me to get it going on my system?
[08:25] <rski> ImGonnaWine: no point
[08:25] <rski> ImGonnaWine: just a question
[08:26] <ImGonnaWine> rski, there is always a point
[08:26] <rski> ok the point was getting an answear
[08:26] <rski> pretty obvious
[08:26] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, you could download the big dvd image
[08:26] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: The alternative I'm totally open to is, Install Ubuntu to the laptop... Problem is, the laptop A) is very very very low-end in terms of speed and RAM, and B) has NO internet access of any kind. This means a standard install would make for a brutally slow machine, and...
[08:26] <DJones> ImGonnaWine: Have you asked in wine's own channel? you're best bet is to ask in #winehq thats their main support channel
[08:26] <ImGonnaWine> is there a manual for wine?
[08:26] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: And the "LowMemorySystem" install on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems wouldn't work.
[08:26] <rski> ImGonnaWine: docs @ winehq.org
[08:27] <ImGonnaWine> on freenode?  djones
[08:27] <Boohbah> !winehq | ImGonnaWine
[08:27] <Tvmbledown> mechdave: In what way would that help? :) No DVD drive, and slow slow slow machine.
[08:27] <DJones> ImGonnaWine: Yes
[08:27] <mattcen> ImGonnaWine: http://www.winehq.org/help/ is a good place to start
[08:27] <mattcen> (probably)
[08:27] <rski> ImGonnaWine: dont ask about winedoors support there thou, they will make fun of you. only wine is supported there
[08:27] <ALT-F4> yeah got dual monitors now
[08:27] <ALT-F4> thanks to the guy that helped me :)
[08:27] <ImGonnaWine> Boohbah, thanks!
[08:28] <mechdave> Tvmbledown, I think we should take ourselves to #ubuntu-offtopic to continue our conversation :)
[08:28] <ALT-F4> can anyone tell me how to install window maker with gnome enabled?
[08:28] <ImGonnaWine> rski, thanks for the tip.  I thought wine doors was part of wine.  thanks good to know it is not.
[08:28] <ImGonnaWine> thanks djones.
[08:28] <DJones> ImGonnaWine: You're welcome
[08:28] <mattcen> Nobody know anything about Uvesa?
[08:29] <mattcen> knows*
[08:29] <silverfast> Tvmbledown : install xubuntu with alternate cd and get updates from another machine using http://keryxproject.org/
[08:30] <tstebut> well :) what should I do ?
[08:30] <tstebut> I'd like to toy it yet....
[08:30] <tstebut> But at first, looking for an explanation of it's no-providing-this-option-state...
[08:30] <tstebut> leaf-sheep : nice day isn't it ? :)
[08:30] <tstebut> sorry I lost my connection
[08:30] <Tvmbledown> silverfast: Is xubuntu going to be as resource-light as I need? This is a machine that runs DSL and AntiX comfortably, not lightning-fast.
[08:31] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Not rly. I can't see anything outside right now. It's scary thing right now. :(
[08:31] <dehqan> thanks <sebsebseb
[08:31] <Boohbah> ImGonnaWine: np. also check the wine application compatibility db for your particular app
[08:31] <Guest77426> im having some recognition problems with 2 hds, one with ubuntu and one with windows.... since its windows related and not only ubuntu, can i ask for help here?
[08:32] <mattcen> Tvmbledown: Xubuntu is the most lightweight official distribution, and there's nothing stopping you from installing an even lighter window manager etc. if you find it's too resource intensive.
[08:32] <Tvmbledown> mattcen: Does it recognize packages etc. the same way vanilla Ubuntu does?
[08:32] <silverfast> Tvmbledown: check http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[08:32] <Tvmbledown> silverfast and mattcen, thanks. :)
[08:33] <mattcen> Tvmbledown: Certainly! It's basically the same operating system, with a different skin on it.
[08:33] <silverfast> Tvmbledown : or you should stick with dsl or try puppy
[08:33] <tstebut> leaf-sheep : oh sorry....Well it appears that jaunty is a developement version, not a release, right ?
[08:33] <bubill> now time is Friday Sep 25 2009  3:33pm
[08:34] <Tvmbledown> silverfast: If I'm reading this right, the purpose of keryx is to make packages available to computers without internet access?
[08:34] <mattcen> It's slightly sad that I came in here *looking* for help, and ended up giving it instead :P
[08:34] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Jaunty was a release in April 2008.  Karmic is a development version, will be released next month.
[08:35] <silverfast> Tvmbledown:yes,but if you have internet then I misunderstand you sorry
[08:35] <mattcen> leaf-sheep: You mean 2009.
[08:35] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Jaunty is a current (and the latest) release at the moment.
[08:35] <Tvmbledown> silverfast: Nah, you got it, actually. :) Thank you!
[08:35] <leaf-sheep> mattcen: Yes.
[08:35] <silverfast> Tvmbledown: np  ;)
[08:36] <leaf-sheep> !nickspam > clown2
[08:36] <tstebut> leaf-sheep : oh but why do I have to do a "update-manager -d" to see it ??
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> if I have a text file of packagenames, how can I uninstall them please?
[08:37] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Because that's an upgrade. If you're coming from Windows mindset, then it'd be *almost* same thing as going from Windows 98 to Windows 2000.  Etc cetera.
[08:37] <ricew> ActionParsnip-> man dpkg
[08:37] <silverfast> leaf-sheep: Jaunty was released in april 2009
[08:37] <ALT-F4> can anyone tell me how I can install window maker with gnome enabled on Ubuntu? Please?
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> ricew: cheers
[08:38] <Rog> test?
[08:38] <DJones> !cloning | ActionParsnip How did you create the test file, does this cloning factoid help at all?
[08:38] <ALT-F4> window maker desktop environment, that is
[08:38] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can record this live stream file in Ubuntu  ? http://www.voanews.com/wm/live/live-persian-v.asx
[08:39] <leaf-sheep> ALT-F4: Windows Maker?  Explain more, plz.
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> DJones: yeah thats where I got the file list from. I'm thinking just switch install for remove and be good
[08:40] <tstebut> leaf-sheep : ok, well I suppose it's normal to say it's a development rel as in this context development's got to mean something else than the first meaning I got
[08:41] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Not really. People are still using Gutsy (7.04), Hardy (8.04 LTS), or Intrepid (8.10) today and they can upgrade anytime when they want.  Some want to stay behind to ensure stability and such.  To each his own.  Latest isn't always the good thing. ;)
[08:42] <tstebut> hmmmm
[08:42] <tstebut> Being off the thing is a hard job nowadays ;)
[08:43] <tstebut> leaf-sheep, what's your version ?
[08:43] <leaf-sheep> tstebut: Jaunty 9.04 amd64.
[08:44] <tstebut> yeah !
[08:46] <silverfast> ActionParsnip :http://paste.ubuntu.com/277692/
[08:46] <tstebut> leaf-sheep :  Jaunty 9.04 core2duo , GTMY :)
[08:47]  * tstebut help
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> silverfast: cheers dude :)
[08:47]  * tstebut having a shower :p
[08:48] <silverfast> ActionParsnip : try it on your own risc   :p
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> silverfast: will do later, at work now
[08:51] <ZykoticK9> I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor and am having troubles trying to get CPU frequency controls to work.  cpufreq-selector says "No cpufreq support" and cpudynd says "CPU frequency control disabled".  Any hints?
[08:51] <abel> rian jak
[08:53] <squarrel> everything works
[08:53] <squarrel> in the OS
[08:56] <indus> ZykoticK9: enable cool and quiet in bios
[08:56] <indus> ZykoticK9: or it wont work
[08:57] <ZykoticK9> indus, thanks.  I'll look into that -- the next time I reboot :)
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> hahha, reboot
[09:02] <guja> assuming that I have Hardy LTS, will that release ever became "old" and unsupported? I mean, having updates set to LTS, is there also circle of updates/upgrades as on regular releases, but it is just way longer time between releases or is something like Hardy is supported for 5 years, and then bye bye, you have to re-install the system?
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> !lts
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> guja: yes it will eventually become unsupported but its not for a while
[09:04] <guja> okay, so when Hardy becomes unofficial, what happens? "new upgrade to 10.04 available" will show in my update manager or?
[09:04] <rski> guja: you can upgrade LTS->LTS
[09:04] <leaf-sheep> guja: Yup.
[09:04] <csaba> I have uninstalled the ATI drivers but the ATI Control Center item is still in the Applications menu in Gnome. How to remove it?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> guja: sure, 10.04 is available in 20(10) in the 4th month (April)
[09:04] <csaba> In the Add/Remove dialog ATI Catalyst is already deselected
[09:04] <leaf-sheep> guja: You'd run a command to update to LTS.  However, that isn't going to happen for long time.
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> guja: hardy is support for 3 years after 200(8) 4th month (April)
[09:05] <guja> leaf-sheep: i see. and based on what LTS versions are chosen?
[09:05] <alkisg_work> Does dhclient in Ubuntu send dns-updates by default?
[09:05] <rski> guja: timebased afaik
[09:05] <csaba> how to remove a menu item from the Applications menu? Add/remove doesn't work
[09:06] <leaf-sheep> guja: Every X years.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> alkisg_work: the standard for DNS servers states they must send periodic updates
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> alkisg_work: as far as I am aware
[09:06] <guja> okay, thanks folks. got that.
[09:06] <aethelrick> csaba: click system, preferences, main menu
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> alin_badila: if they are told to, you can disable it but the standard default is to advertise
[09:07] <alkisg_work> ActionParsnip: I mean the client, dhclient. E.g. one standalone ubuntu PC, will it send its hostname to the local dns server? (==dns update)
[09:07] <csaba> thanks
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> alkisg_work: i think so, it does with home grade routers
[09:07] <guja> and one more question: 32bit vs 64bit ubuntu? I have 64bit architecture, but dunno if it's wise to use 64bit, since I don't know how well these days x86_64 is supported in Ubuntu.
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> guja: its fine
[09:08] <alkisg_work> ActionParsnip: thanks, I hope it does :)
[09:08] <Silver_Swords> guja: go for it. it worked fine when i tried it.
[09:08] <guja> ActionParsnip: no more problems from quite time ago I remember like flash problems, etc?
[09:09] <csaba> I have a windows installed on the same computer, and the drives can be seen in "Computer". However, when I click on them, nothing happens. Probably some mount error in the background. How to figure out what's wrong? Clicking "mount" also doesn't do anything
[09:10] <csaba> windows vista
[09:10] <csaba> and /media contains only the cdrom
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> guja: there is a 64bit flash plugin (beta) as well as nspluginwrapper. flashplugin-nonfree will use the wrapper, you can install the beta manually and it runs fine
[09:10] <csaba> and the C: drive's location is computer:/// and media is unknown
[09:10] <trakcyia> how can i grep a man page?
[09:11] <guja> ActionParsnip: and Skype maybe? if you are using it.
[09:11] <trakcyia> better question, how can I output only pattern matching lines from within a man page?
[09:11] <booleancat> Hello all.  I've got each machine set up in it's own directory on a server, and their root directory is exported over tftp. Everything mostly works, but I'd like to write a script to chroot into each root directory and "apt-get update -s -y && apt-get upgrade -s -y" However, no matter what I try, I can't get the command to work.
[09:12] <booleancat> If I manually chroot into each directory, I can execute the commands, but I can't get a script to do it for me. Any ideas?
[09:12] <trakcyia> have the script chroot into each directory and use the pwd for the commands?
[09:13] <trakcyia> basically, make the script do what you do lol
[09:13] <booleancat> Well, I'm trying the following: "chroot /path/to/exported/root apt-get update" but it only seems to execute it on the host
[09:13] <booleancat> rather, "sudo chroot ..."
[09:13] <Alex_Brooks> Can Ubunutu support duel monitors?
[09:14] <trakcyia> i knew that quesiton was over my head, i just wanted to try anyway. sorry
[09:14] <booleancat> Alex_Brooks: You mean dual monitors, and yes
[09:14] <aethelrick> Alex_Brooks: yup it sure can
[09:14] <booleancat> a duel is a fight ;)
[09:14] <Alex_Brooks> Thanks booleancat + aethelrick, sorry for the bad spelling, only just woke up.
[09:14] <trakcyia> xinerama and x (in the form of multiple dispays) will duel your output
[09:14] <booleancat> Alex_Brooks: you do have to restart X for the changes to apply though
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> guja: i dont use skype, it can be made to work. Thre are guides everywhere
[09:15] <aethelrick> lol... no problem Alex_Brooks the idea of monitors dueling conjures an image :)
[09:16] <trakcyia> i am quite literally going insane (minus the  bulk of the insanity) trying to find out how to get my terminal to output a "ctrl-f" of a man page
[09:16] <ScoTTie> Having problems with eSATA auto mounting. The device node for the drive are being created/removed when its plugged in/unplugged, but it wont auto mount according to fstab.
[09:16] <trakcyia> say i wanted to see what the man page for grep had to say about the -p option.
[09:17] <ScoTTie> doing mount -a or /dev/.. will work
[09:17] <ScoTTie> am i missing something?
[09:18] <booleancat> lol... so my problem was easily solved by reading the man page... I just wanted the -y option. The -s option "simulates" the operation...
[09:18]  * booleancat facepalms
[09:18] <jimbeam12> hey all
[09:18] <jimbeam12> whose proficient in ubuntu?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: many
[09:19] <jimbeam12> hey action how are u..
[09:19] <jimbeam12> do you every get sleep..heheh
[09:20] <jimbeam12> sorry meant to say..do u ever get sleep..heheh
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: only when tired
[09:20] <jimbeam12> i wonder if u can help me bro..
[09:20] <HaCk> ciao
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: ask the channel and it will reply
[09:20] <jimbeam12> ok..
[09:21] <trakcyia> the pick command does not work and i cannot install it with apt's repositories. i cannot find it in any other form with google.
[09:22] <trakcyia> when i attempt to use the pick utility i am told the utility is available in some packages. i installed the two listed packages and pick still returns the same message
[09:22] <ImGonnaWine> is anyone good with wine
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | ImGonnaWine
[09:22] <jimbeam12> iam trying to add a splash screen in ubuntu ...using start up manager...i add the theme i want..ok
[09:22] <ImGonnaWine> I am tring to istall an application.  I have installed wine, and found ie6.  it works ok.  but I need to install my own application.
[09:23] <trakcyia> ImGonnaWine do a google search for ies4linux
[09:23] <jimbeam12> computer reboots..and gives me an error code 11:unrecongnized device string...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> ImGonnaWine: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[09:23] <jimbeam12> i cannot log in to ubuntu...
[09:24] <ImGonnaWine> ActionParsnip: yep, the application I want to use is not on the compatibility list, I was told to try it, it may work.
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/138225-solved-grub-error-11-unrecognized-device-string.html
[09:24] <ImGonnaWine> ActionParsnip: it was not test and know not to work, it just was not there listed.
[09:24] <ImGonnaWine> ActionParsnip: can you help me?
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> ImGonnaWine: give it a go, if it doesnt work then try the wine from the wine repo: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[09:25] <ckc037> hey guys
[09:25] <kraut> moin
[09:26] <ImGonnaWine> I have downloaded wine, and installed it, can someone help me install a new windows program?
[09:26] <jimbeam12> everytime startup manager add this line to grub...splashimage=/boot/grub/splashimages/guitar.xpm.gz its stuff up...
[09:26] <aethelrick> ImGonnaWine: do you have an installer for your program?
[09:26] <trakcyia> i can't figure out how to either a. install the pick utility or b. use an alternate method to output a string from within a man page
[09:26] <aethelrick> ImGonnaWine: try "wine installer.exe" where installer.exe is the name of your installer
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> ImGonnaWine: right click on the exe and select open with wine installer
[09:27] <booleancat> 2nd question: Is there any way to share the deb files already downloaded across a network (say I have 10 machines, and don't want to download each update 10 times)
[09:27] <trakcyia> well, i cant think of any more ways to ask that question
[09:27] <trakcyia> wait time
[09:27] <ImGonnaWine> I guess it has an installer... its a windows application and install in the normal way. the problem is where do I install it?  how do I find the wine c drive?
[09:28] <ImGonnaWine> ok, let me look at it.
[09:29] <geirha> trakcyia: man foo | grep word    ?
[09:29] <aethelrick> trakcyia: what is your overall goal? do you have a specific man page in mind or are you trying to do a multi-man-page search?
[09:29] <soUPERMan> hey, my cd burner has been having errors in burning, any ideas to why this is happening?
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> booleancat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205569   seems ok
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> soUPERMan: tried burning slower or a different app?
[09:30] <aethelrick> ImGonnaWine: your c drive in in your home directory under .wine/drive_c/
[09:30] <soUPERMan> ActionParsnip, i tried with K3B but got the same error
[09:31] <soUPERMan> weird thing is it used to work
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> soUPERMan: tried a different speed?
[09:31] <soUPERMan> then out of nowhere i get errors
[09:31] <aethelrick> ImGonnaWine: simply running your installer with wine should suffice however, it knows where C is :)
[09:31] <ImGonnaWine> aethelrick: so how do I know if it is installed.  I am not sure if it worked.
[09:31] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: can you be sure the drive isn't faulty?
[09:32] <soUPERMan> it reads...
[09:32] <ImGonnaWine> aethelrick: it is not listed in the wine part of the menu
[09:32] <soUPERMan> aethelrick, is there a way to test if it's faulty?
[09:32] <trakcyia> geirha: that did the trick, thank you
[09:33] <aethelrick> ImGonnaWine: you can browse in nautilius or a terminal into ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files and have a look or wine may have also created a handy menu entry for you under applications, wine, programs
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> ImGonnaWine: your apps menu will have an entry if the app makes one
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> ImGonnaWine: under wine
[09:35] <ImGonnaWine> it did not make a menu item... unless I need to reboot for it to be seen.
[09:35] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: the only real way to tell if something is faulty is to swap it out or try it in another environment. You say it used to work, it's reasonable to suspect in that case that either recent changes have occurred in config or the device is failing
[09:35] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: if you can rule out the changes in config... then I'd start to suspect the device.
[09:35] <leaf-sheep> ImGonnaWine: "killall gnome-panel" should do the triiiiick.
[09:35] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: out of curiosity, what model is the device?
[09:35] <soUPERMan> ok, will try swaping aethelrick ...now to find another burner...*sigh*
[09:36] <NeXstaR> who can i prvt i connection with a joomla problem ?
[09:36] <soUPERMan> aethelrick, it's built in a lenovo 3000 g430 laptop...
[09:36] <soUPERMan> soo.....basically, i have no idea
[09:36] <soUPERMan> just a min
[09:37] <booleancat> ActionParsnip: Thanks Sorry it took a bit, I was on another machine
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> booleancat: np man
[09:37] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: have you recently changed to a new brand/type of disc? (i.e. blank media)
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> YES!!!!
[09:38] <soUPERMan> aethelrick, not exactly i tested a few new ones just to see if it was the discs
[09:38] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: I once got an entire spindle of CD's that would not burn reliably with my drive...
[09:38] <soUPERMan> but weird thing is it burns on my friend's laptop
[09:39] <aethelrick> is this an external drive?
[09:39] <soUPERMan> no, internal
[09:39] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: so you have taken it out... put it in your buddies laptop and it works there?
[09:39] <NeXstaR> anyone here familiar with joomla etc ?
[09:40] <soUPERMan> nope, my buddy's burner works with the cds
[09:40] <aethelrick> soUPERMan: oh right...
[09:41] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: try asking you question mate... I may be able to help, but I don't know until you ask :)
[09:41] <peeps123> hi
[09:41] <NeXstaR> aethelrick: may i prvt you concerning the aspect ?
[09:42] <soreau> ! pm | NeXstaR
[09:42] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: that sounds so much like a proposition.... *shudder* :P
[09:42] <ikt> I've got an ubuntu server running with a weird problem, it can see other computers and I can ssh into it from another machine on the network but it can't connect to the internet .. any ideas?
[09:42] <soreau> ! ask | NeXstaR
[09:42] <tplink> are there any chinese
[09:42] <tplink> i'm first come here anybody free
[09:42] <peeps123> need some help with internet connection probs
[09:43] <NeXstaR> no no aestherick ... its just a ubuntu chatroom, but may i ask joomla related questions here aswell
[09:43] <wine> is anyone good with wine?  I am tring to install a program in wine and its not working
[09:43] <aethelrick> ikt: can you ping google.com
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> wine: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[09:43] <wine> yes
[09:43] <daurnimator> I think my computer froze
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> wine: not all apps run with wine
[09:44] <wine> i want to try this one
[09:44] <daurnimator> its stuck, and the keyboard lights started flashing
[09:44] <daurnimator> anyone know why thekeyboards lights would flash
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> wine: you could also try the wine version on the wine repos
[09:44] <wine> how do I install an application in wine
[09:44] <ikt> athelrick: nope :(
[09:44] <soUPERMan> daurnimator, try rebooting it
[09:44] <wine> that is where I got wine.  for ubuntu
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> wine: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[09:44] <soreau> daurnimator: When your keyboard lights flash and your system freezes, this is called a kernel panic
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> wine: the one on the wine repos can yield different results
[09:44] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: go ahead and ask :) (I'm only joking)
[09:45] <wine> I have down loaded wine and I am trying to load up a windows application, this is my first time.  can someone help me.
[09:45] <peeps123> network manager tells me every few seconds that my internet connects and disconnects
[09:45] <soreau> daurnimator: It sometimes happens when running bad kernel code, ie. a driver or kernel module
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> wine: you may want to run: winecfg too to change the simulated windows version. This can give different results too
[09:45] <daurnimator> soUPERMan: soreau: o.o why would that happen >.<
[09:45] <daurnimator> I was just importing songs into rythmbox
[09:45] <soreau> daurnimator: Importing from where?
[09:45] <daurnimator> an ntfs hdd
[09:45] <soUPERMan> daurnimator, mmmhhh....i have no idea, but something went wrong and crashed the kernel or your xserver
[09:46] <NeXstaR> anyways here goes ... i have installed mosets tree component and module inside joomla and everytime i try to browse webpage thru //localhost/webtest/ it gives me this error : Fatal Error: Call to a member function call() on a non-object in /var/www/webstest/components/com_mtree/mtree.php on line 329
[09:46] <wine> I have down loaded wine from the ubuntu repositories. I am trying to install a windows application. this is my first time, so I am kinda lost, can someone help me?
[09:46] <rotzak|work> What populates the "Applications" menu? I have some things that I've downloaded (i.e. Chromium and IntelliJ) that just come out as directories and I would like to be able to launch them from the menu and not the term....
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> wine: do you have a windows .exe file?
[09:46] <peeps123> please help me
[09:46] <daurnimator> anything I can do to salvage the situation? or I have to reboot?
[09:46] <soreau> daurnimator: Then it might be caused by some other unrelated issue.. can you reproduce it reliably?
[09:46] <edi_99> Hi guys. I've installed LAMP and I'm trying to learn php. Do I really have to put all my scripts in /var/www or is there a more "elegant" way
[09:46] <Maverick> how to give users permission to mount parttions
[09:47] <daurnimator> soreau: just happpend for first time then
[09:47] <wine> yes, I tried to run it via the wine loader program.  ActionParsnip
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> wine: thats all you do
[09:47] <rotzak|work> edi_99: Yes, and that is likely the "best" way -- you can always ln -s that to somewhere else or change httpd.conf (or apache.conf I think it is now) to get your scripts from elswhere.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Maverick: you can use visdo to make sudo not need a password but they will still need to be a mamber of admin group to be able to use it
[09:47] <Unicode> Maverick: it depends of fs type
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Maverick: they just wont get bothered for a password
[09:48] <soreau> daurnimator: You'r system is telling you at this point, it's pretty much in a state where it reached the furthest it can do and doesn't know what else to do so you have to restart it. You can do something like Alt+PrintScreen+S+U+B
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> wine: try winecfg to see if changing the system to vista etc makes a difference.
[09:48] <edi_99> rotzak|work: OK, thanks
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> wine: what app is it?
[09:48] <wine> actionparsnip, after I do that how do I activate the program.
[09:48] <daurnimator> ok
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> wine: alt+f2  type   winecfg   press enter
[09:48] <wine> its called the frog and the carrot
[09:49] <peeps123> am I really in this chat room
[09:49] <soreau> peeps123: no
[09:49] <peeps123> ok
[09:49] <NeXstaR> aesthelrick: anyways here goes ... i have installed mosets tree component and module inside joomla and everytime i try to browse webpage thru //localhost/webtest/ it gives me this error : Fatal Error: Call to a member function call() on a non-object in /var/www/webstest/components/com_mtree/mtree.php on line 329
[09:49] <peeps123> installed ubuntu but have internet problems
[09:50] <rxd> where can i find a script that can redirect apt-get install to a directory
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> wine: you'll have to mess around in winecfg to see if you can make it run
[09:50] <Unicode> peeps123: ?
[09:50] <soUPERMan> daurnimator, hey, i burned with a higher speed and it worked, weird, right?
[09:50] <wine> ActionParsnip: it simply is not loading.  by using the wine loader it did create the filefolder, but not thing is in it.
[09:50] <peeps123> thank you
[09:50] <soreau> peeps123: How are you trying to connect? wifi or hardwire ethernet?
[09:50] <peeps123> ethernet
[09:50] <soreau> peeps123: And what is the problem?
[09:51] <peeps123> network manager tells me every few seconds that I have disconnected
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> rxd: you can tell apt-get to only download then move the deb yourself after the download finishes
[09:51] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: what version of Joomla?
[09:51] <soUPERMan> peeps123, check if the cable is not loose
[09:51] <wine> ActionParsnip: how can I change the version of widows if I can't get to the installed program.  I can't get to the installed program because it is not installed.
[09:51] <soreau> peeps123: Can you ping google.com from your terminal?
[09:51] <Unicode> peeps123: kill network manager and feel good:)
[09:52] <peeps123> I manage to stay in this chat room
[09:52] <peeps123> seems its the internet
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> wine: ive told you, winecfg
[09:52] <rxd> ActionParsnip: so i have to create it myself after i use apt-get -o option and extract the deb file to a directory
[09:52] <peeps123> I'll try
[09:53] <soreau> peeps123: If you are already here then your internet is working fine. nm-applet must be misreporting or you have a wifi apadter that it's reporting as not connected
[09:53] <wine> ActionParsnip: what you are telling me makes not sense.  the only way to change the version of windows is to select an application first... how can I do that if it is not installed.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> rxd: not sure, you'd have to check man apt-get. If you are running out of space you could make a folder on a partition with space and symlink the folder where debs usually get downloaded to the new folder
[09:53] <peeps123> yes no probs
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> wine: press alt+f2 on keyboard
[09:53] <soreau> adapter*
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> wine: in the littel box type the word: winecfg
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> wine: press enter
[09:54] <rxd> ActionParsnip: ok got u...did that apt-get -o and dpkg-deb -x so i get everything in one directory
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> wine: change the windows version in that app and click apply and ok
[09:54] <wine> ActionParsnip: dude, are you drunk... I am in winecfg
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> wine: then retry the app
[09:54] <wine> actonparsnip are you messing with me... I have told you three times the application is not listed.
[09:55] <peeps123> when I visit youtube the videos keep freezing
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> wine: it in the apps tab
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> wine: at the bottom of the dialogue
[09:55] <cwickert> I got a general question about ubuntu: are new packages allowed to enter a release after the release? if so, into which repo are they? release or updates?
[09:55] <peeps123> and thats when netman tells me I have disconnected
[09:55] <rxd> ActionParsnip: ubuntu 9.10 uses aufs as default file system, so we can now create say a squashfs file out of what we are installing and merge/layer it to our rootfilesystem on the fly and it works!
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> wine: it will no doubt say Windows XP, change that to different versions, click apply and click ok, then retry the app
[09:55] <daurnimator> soreau: the sysreq stuff didn't work btw
[09:56] <Unicode> peeps123: have you flashplayer.so?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> rxd: cool
[09:56] <peeps123> cool thought ubuntu would have installed it......probably not
[09:56] <peeps123> I'll away and download it
[09:56] <Giles> The sequence numbers output by dmesg...what are they, can they be releated back to a date/time?
[09:57] <soreau> peeps123: There is a red bar that shows the download progress of the video file. It will temporarily be stored as /tmp/Flash*****. After the red bar in FF is all the way full, it means it downloaded. So try mplayer /tmp/Flash<press tab> and see if it plays better that way
[09:58] <rxd> ActionParsnip: very good now i got ubuntu 9.10 on usb stick so i mount my squashfs file from hd partition say wine.sfs and do a mount -o remount,append:/wine / and wine apps get merge to my root
[09:58] <erikk71> hi all
[09:58] <jhernandez> hi, need help with python-parted
[09:58] <erikk71> are the pentium 2 still useful
[09:58] <peeps123> soreau...thank you ever so much
[09:59] <jastix> hello! How to install ubuntu 8.04 server from sata cdrom?
[09:59] <rxd> ActionParsnip: mount -o remount,del:/wine / to detach it if i don't need it
[09:59] <jhernandez> could someone help me? i can't create partitions, actually i'm using direct libparted python bindings
[09:59] <soreau> ! sysrq | daurnimator
[09:59] <erikk71> i may scrap out afew pentium II computers
[09:59] <soreau> daurnimator: If all else fails, hold down the power button for at least 5 seconds to power off the machine
[10:00] <soreau> peeps123: Glad to help :)
[10:00] <erikk71> ubuntu runs fair
[10:00] <erikk71> but slow on them
[10:00] <soreau> erikk71: What do you expect from a PII?
[10:01] <erikk71> most r garbage can
[10:02] <erikk71> i get socket 462 motherboard
[10:02] <NeXstaR> aethelrick: im using ver 1.5.13 of joomla....
[10:02] <erikk71> is this program i can download that will tell me the type ram i have in my pc
[10:03] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: according to google... the module you're using does not work with that version of joomla
[10:03] <soreau> erikk71: You might want to ask question of this nature in a more appropriate channel like ##hardware
[10:03] <aethelrick> NeXstaR: you need to upgrade Joomla apparently
[10:03] <NeXstaR> aesthelrick: upgrade joomla ? to what ver?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> erikk71: sudo lshw -C memory     may help
[10:05] <pretender> am using giver on ubuntu 9.04 and am when i give the file to another workstation running giver to message is coming up to accept file
[10:10] <koolhead> :-D
[10:10] <jimbeam12> ActionParsnip still no good...every time i load the boot image it still give me the error 11:
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: is it ok with the normal one?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: as in, can you roll back
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> jimbeam12: i dont use splash screens so I'm not overly useful
[10:11] <jimbeam12> ohh ok..
[10:12] <jimbeam12> just wonderin anyone in here runnin dual boots ..if they can post they menu.lst up with splash installed
[10:12] <jimbeam12> just to compare the files..
[10:14] <seena> Hi, please suggest me any ISO to CD converter
[10:14] <jimbeam12> this is driving me up the creek ActionParsnip...
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> seena: brasero
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> seena: will put the iso on a cd for you nicely..
[10:15] <jimbeam12> poweiso?
[10:15] <jimbeam12> poweriso
[10:15] <seena> ok
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> seena: or do you want to mount the iso?
[10:16] <seena> ActionParsnip, No
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> seena: can you expand your issue. to put an iso on a cd you need a cd burner and cd burning software and a blank cd
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> seena: an ISO is an image of a CD
[10:16] <seena> ActionParsnip, i want to convert ISO image file to bootable disk
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> seena: if you have downloaded an Ubuntu ISO, just open it with your burning app and it will be bootable
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> seena: you do not extract the files then burn those
[10:18] <seena> ActionParsnip, that sounds good.