[17:42] <Besogon> aquachica, and what do you want?
[17:42] <hmw> When I double click a window title bar, it gets resized to show only the title bar. I can't find the setting, where can I switch back to get the window maximized on double clicking the title bar?
[17:42] <computerMoney> zelda: how would I replace compiz with this?
[17:43] <ubuntistas> yes usr13
[17:43] <aquachica> I have other Truetype fonts that I wanted to use, that I use in Windows.
[17:43] <zelda> you cant really. But you can tell compiz to use metacity
[17:43] <Eimhin`> My wireless card isn't being recognized, it has in the past but it stopped working today, networking is enabled and i have tried restarting the X server
[17:43] <zelda> download the CCSM.
[17:43] <zaccour> i switched from xfce to ubuntu desktop, how do i also change the bootupp and the login? i just want it to all match
[17:43] <Trijntje> computerMoney: not realy, you can also set compiz to use metacity. Metacity is only for the border and top of windows, where you can press close etc. Compiz offers a lot of eyecandy, like cube etc
[17:43] <zelda> or the compiz-fuzion icon manager
[17:44] <usr13> ubuntistas: cd to the resulting directory and read the README and / or INSTALL files.  i.e.  less README  less INSTALL
[17:44] <sebsebseb> usr13: that's also for hardy server,  he is on 8.10 desktop edition
[17:44] <bullgard4> I added in /etc/samba/smb.conf a line: "log level = 3". But why does the command "~$ smbclient \\\\MD97600\\freigegebenMD -U <password> -W MSHOME" issued on computer T42 in the same LAN still not reflect in /var/log/samba/log.t42?
[17:44] <Trijntje> is it possible to have bootchart monitor the login process instead of the boot?
[17:45] <aquachica> Usser, I added a font to the /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts folder, and used the fc-cache -f -v command.  However, the fold is not visible in Open Office.
[17:45] <Besogon> aquachica, What kind of font did you use?
[17:45] <militant> so why is firefox so ugly/slow in ubuntu compared to winodws?  i do text zoom on just about every page i use, and it does UGLY things
[17:45] <aquachica> I used Truetype fonts in Windows.
[17:46] <zaccour> i switched from xfce to ubuntu desktop, how do i also change the bootupp and the login? i just want it to all match
[17:46] <ubuntistas> usr13 any clue?
[17:46] <bobbob1016> computerMoney, Better to call compiz an alternative to metacity, but just semantics.
[17:47] <aquachica> The fonts I used on Windows were Truetype fonts that I downloaded from various sites.
[17:47] <bullgard4> Trijntje: I believe that this is only possibly by substantially changing the source code and recompiling.
[17:47] <usr13> ubuntistas: clue to what?
[17:47] <Besogon> aquachica, copy fonts from Windows in ~/.fonts
[17:47] <ubuntu__> hi ppl. i had a big problem, when i start my ubuntu i went to a memory test which dont have end, it restarts the test. and i cant access my ubuntu. now i'm on live cd. yesterday i remove all linux-image packages i had in /lib/modules directory, i think that is the origin of the problem. now, i'm on live cd, how do i solve this problem? it's possible to recover my old system?
[17:47] <aquachica> ~/.fonts does not exist.
[17:47] <bullgard4> s/possibly/possible
[17:47] <zelda> from your windows?
[17:47] <ubuntistas> i don't get the readme or install
[17:48] <Besogon> aquachica, mkdir ~/.fonts What else?
[17:48] <computerMoney> bobbob1016: thank you. I have an obnoxious compiz issue regarding firefox that i can't resolve.
[17:48] <ubuntistas> how can i configure usr13 and then compile?
[17:48] <computerMoney> bobbob1016: turns full screen when I open it, any ideas?
[17:48] <zelda> LOL
[17:48] <zaccour> is this a bad day  to ask for help or is my question just not important enough?
[17:48] <zelda> computerMonkey, thats the 3x today.
[17:48] <zelda> er computerMoney
[17:48] <zaccour> maybe ill ask in ubuntu-off topic for this on topic issue
[17:48] <computerMoney> zelda: no, it's the fifth
[17:49] <computerMoney> zelda: 'cause it ain't gettin' fixed.
[17:49] <zelda> computerMoney: Yea its annoying
[17:49] <aquachica> I copied the fonts over.
[17:49] <computerMoney> zelda: when ubuntu's working properly I am so happy I have it
[17:49] <usr13> ubuntistas: The are text files that tell you about the package and how to install it.  You should read them and then proceed with the install as per instructed.  But basically,  you are going to need to issud [probably] 3 commands 1) ./configure  2) make 3) sudo make install
[17:49] <computerMoney> zelda: too bad that's about 50% of the time
[17:50] <zaccour> forget this ill just look elsewheree
[17:50] <kudi> i dont know what i did but i lost the fluxbox panel...how do i get it back?
[17:50] <Besogon> aquachica, OR you just dont see hidden directory, huh? Do Ctrl +H in your home dir when you in nautilus
[17:50] <vjacob> hello all. has someone here noticed that java on an eeepc Asus1000H (x86) can be really really slow when running something like JabRef (even with IBM's jre)?
[17:50] <zelda> computerMoney: yeah. most the time it works for me. Thats so dumb.
[17:50] <hmw> !ubottu ask | zaccour
[17:51] <Doeman> Hey guys i reinstalled windows and now my grub is gone. With my old pc i simply used the SUPER Grub disk and fixed it with that. Now, however for some reason i dont get the super grub disk menu and i go directly to some command line version. I dont know what to do, any ideas? Thanks
[17:51] <bobbob1016> computerMoney, I don't have the issue, so I don't know.  Maybe the "fullscreen windows" option in ccsm, not sure though
[17:51] <computerMoney> bobbob1016: good thinking
[17:51] <tq|Memphis> which file should i download to watch .avi files
[17:51] <hmw> !grub > hmw
[17:51] <usr13> Doeman: What is super grub disk menu?
[17:51] <zelda> http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2008/11/howto-fix-firefox-taking-up-whole.html
[17:52] <zelda> @bobbob1016
[17:52] <Eimhin`> My wireless card isn't being recognized, it has in the past but it stopped working today, networking is enabled and i have tried restarting the X server
[17:52] <hmw> Doeman: it's quite easy, also from command line. I am looking into it and might be able to help... stand by
[17:52] <usr13> ubuntistas: The README and INSTALL files are text files that tell you about the package and how to install it.  You should read them and then proceed with the install as per instructed.
[17:52] <hmw> !grub | Doeman
[17:52] <crischan> i am running 9.04 - how do i get to know which video driver my X server is running?
[17:53] <paulo39> hi ppl. i had a big problem, when i start my ubuntu i went to a memory test which dont have end, it restarts the test. and i cant access my ubuntu. now i'm on live cd. yesterday i remove all linux-image packages i had in /lib/modules directory, i think that is the origin of the problem. now, i'm on live cd, how do i solve this problem? it's possible to recover my old system?
[17:53] <aquachica> I have used the fc-cache -f -v command, but Office still does not see the font.
[17:53] <zelda> wont hardware drivers tell you that
[17:53] <zelda> ?
[17:53] <aquachica> I am on Ubuntu 8.10.
[17:54] <Besogon> aquachica, reboot.
[17:54] <aquachica> ok
[17:54] <aquachica> brb
[17:54] <ScottG489> How can I get ubuntu to recognise my webcam on my laptop and/or my mic?
[17:54] <zelda> "Doctor, Doctor give me the news. I've got a bad case..."
[17:54] <dr3w_> hey guys i just removed xine via synaptic... and now i cant load into x11 gnome interface,  x11 starts ok if i run startx but i think i accidently removed all the gnome components
[17:54] <computerMoney> zelda: thank you, where do I find this file to modify?
[17:54] <hmw> paulo39: sounds like you successfully killed your system. You might be lucky with copying the files from your live system back to the hard drive, but there might be files missing. Resetup recommended.
[17:54] <dr3w_> how do i reconfigure to load into this as this isnt my computer
[17:54] <bullgard4> I added in /etc/samba/smb.conf a line: "log level = 3". But why does the command "~$ smbclient \\\\MD97600\\freigegebenMD -U <password> -W MSHOME" issued on computer T42 in the same LAN still not reflect in /var/log/samba/log.t42?
[17:54] <bobbob1016> zelda, This isn't twitter, no need for @
[17:55] <zelda> whos Twitter?
[17:55] <paulo39> lol... possibly i was very uncarefully
[17:55] <hmw> bullgard4: maybe you set your samba not to log each machine in a different file? in this case, you should see everything in the main samba log
[17:56] <fingletoad> hello
[17:56] <Euroman__> hello
[17:56] <zelda> computerMoney: What?
[17:56] <Doeman> Hey guys i reinstalled windows and now my grub is gone. With my old pc i simply used the SUPER Grub disk and fixed it with that. Now, however for some reason i dont get the super grub disk menu and i go directly to some command line version. I dont know what to do, any ideas? Thanks
[17:56] <hmw> bullgard4: btw. i guess its not \\computer\share, even less \\\\something, but //computer/share
[17:56] <vjacob> How does one find out which processor type a binary has been optimized from, anyone know a command to do that? (i586, i686, etc)
[17:56] <kamekun> Hi guys, anyone can help me with a problem on bluetooth device?
[17:57] <usr13> Doeman: Did you see the instructions just given to you?
[17:57] <computerMoney> zelda: regarding the link to a fix, I am actually too novice to follow those directions
[17:57] <fingletoad> does anyone knows how to fix error in tool/i18n.cpp:62, error formatting string in wormux? :D
[17:57] <computerMoney> zelda: which file do I modify?
[17:57] <meteor> what's the best media player to run on ubuntu?
[17:57] <paulo39> hmw, there arent some chances to installling the missing linux-images and recover the system?
[17:57] <user___> vjacob: *maybe* "file"
[17:57] <fosco_> !best | meteor
[17:57] <zelda> computerMoney: You open CCSM do you have that downloaded?
[17:57] <bullgard4> hmw: I set my Samba so that it logs each machine in a different file. At least the file /var/log/samba/log.t42 gets filled gradually. But unfortunately not in reaction of a slave command.
[17:57] <computerMoney> zelda: yes it is now open
[17:58] <hmw> paulo39: as i mentioned, you might be lucky with copying the files from your live cd's file system to the hard drive. If your ubuntu was like freshly set up, it might be ok
[17:58] <meteor> ok, sorry
[17:58] <aquachica> I have rebooted my computer, but the font still does not show up.
[17:58] <zelda> computerMoney: ok go to effects and then window decoration.
[17:58] <zelda> computerMoney: then its self explanitory
[17:58] <computerMoney> zelda: it's just a checkbox
[17:58] <felix__> Flex84
[17:59] <computerMoney> Oh!
[17:59] <computerMoney> zelda: Now I see!
[17:59] <hmw> bullgard4: the server holding the share must be set to use that setting. Are you perhaps expecting smbclient to log into smb-server's log file?
[17:59] <bullgard4> hmw: If I replace '\\' with '/' there will be no difference.
[18:00] <hmw> bullgard4: interesting. i had problems with the backslashes. however, usually this should work out of the box
[18:00] <paulo39> hmw, sorry for my english.. i have some dificulties. what wou are saying is to copy that directory content of my live cd running system to the same directory in the hard disk system? and try to reboot by the hard disk?
[18:00] <linduxed> i press shutdown, and after the ubuntu logo and "shutdown-bar-which-has-to-get-filled-with-black" dissapear, i have to wait for something like half a minute before i the computer powers down. WHY?
[18:00] <kamekun> anyone know about bluetooth services like blueman
[18:01] <hmw> paulo39: yes. mount the hard drive, eg. to /mnt, and just copy the files from /lib/modules. If you dont mind finally destroying your install, it might be worth a shot. I dont know, if it is a good idea, tbh
[18:01] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | kamekun
[18:01] <Besogon> aquachica, what font did you copy to ~/.font? You must know it dont be fon fonts only ttf
[18:02] <ubuntistas> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop. usr13 error
[18:02] <kamekun> ortsvorsteher, sorry
[18:02] <hmw> bullgard4: i take it, you have a smb server with loglevel 3, and another machine connects to a share, but the server doesnt log it?
[18:02] <raviteja> can anyone tell me how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/134965/
[18:02] <ortsvorsteher> no problem kamekun, just ask ....
[18:02] <aquachica> The extension is .ttf
[18:02] <vjacob> user___, thanks
[18:02] <Doeman> Hey guys i reinstalled windows and now my grub is gone. With my old pc i simply used the SUPER Grub disk and fixed it with that. Now, however for some reason i dont get the super grub disk menu and i go directly to some command line version. I dont know what to do, any ideas? Thanks
[18:02] <usr13> Doeman: How can we help you?
[18:02] <kamekun> need  help me with a problem on bluetooth device
[18:02] <ortsvorsteher> !grub | Doeman
[18:02] <hmw> !grub > Doeman
[18:03] <bullgard4> hmw: I do not understand well your question " Are you perhaps expecting smbclient to log into smb-server's log file?" I run the program smbclient on the Samba client computer. And the logfile is on the Samba file server computer.
[18:03] <vjacob> user_ /opt/ibm-java-i386-60/jre/bin/java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not st <- yes!
[18:03] <ortsvorsteher> Doeman: look at the restore grub howtos link, which ubottu you gave
[18:03] <ortsvorsteher> !details | kamekun
[18:03] <bullgard4> hmw: " <       hmw> bullgard4: i take it, you have a smb server with loglevel 3, and another machine connects to a share, but the server doesnt log it?" <- yes.
[18:03] <hmw> bullgard4: thanks for clarification. thinking...
[18:04] <Doeman> ortsvorsteher, ive done it before with the super grub disk, but now when i boot the super grub disk no menu loads, i only get a command line version
[18:04] <raviteja> can anyone tell me how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/134965/
[18:04] <Besogon> aquachica, then I cant help. All work fine for me. (I have Arial and Times. It all what I need). Sorry
[18:04] <ortsvorsteher> Doeman: so try documentation what to do an command line if you are able...
[18:04] <usr13> Doeman: So the system is booting up and  you only have a command line login screen?
[18:05] <aquachica> Thank you for helping.  I do have Arial and Times. I was hoping to get my other fonts loaded.
[18:05] <Doeman> usr13, no super grub disk loads and i dont have the super grub disk quick menu, only commmand line
[18:05] <raviteja> can anyone tell me how to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/134965/
[18:05] <aquachica> I use them a lot in Photoshop.
[18:05] <ortsvorsteher> raviteja: do you have another package tool running?
[18:05] <kamekun> i have a problem triying to connect my headset bluetooth device with blueman, is reconigse  the device and connect fine but the sound is still on the laptop, i have ubuntu 8.10
[18:06] <bullgard4> raviteja: I believe that the repositories are out of order at the moment. Please wait and see until the order has been restored by the Ubuntu maintainers. This may take up to two days maximum according to my experience.
[18:06] <hmw> bullgard4: I have no clue, what could cause this. It might be a wrong path to the dir in smbd's conf or even file permissions (which i doubt)
[18:06] <deany> i downloaded google earth 4.3 from the main site, its a bin file, ive used sh (bin file) to install, but how do i uninstall ?
[18:07] <hmw> bullgard4: did you do any fancy things to your server? i mean, unusual smb settings, syslog reconfigured, aso?
[18:07] <militant> is it specifically ubuntu or all of debian, or indeeda ll of linux....    for this firefox slowness?  it's ridiculously ugly/slow zooming a page or switching tabs or anything... but only on my ubuntu box.  not my xp or vista machines
[18:07] <raviteja> bullgard4, ortsvorsteher, i just installed ubuntu in my lappy and i wanted to update my repos and also install codecs
[18:07] <bullgard4> hmw: I have gone through several points together with another helper and we could not find the error in > 4 hours. --
[18:07] <newmember> I hace connected my NTFS Dive to centos, I can browse the directories, but can not write to the drive.  How to set something to write to the USB NTFS Hard drive?
[18:08] <bullgard4> raviteja: So you better wait and see.
[18:08] <DasEi> militant: no, is no typicall  issue
[18:08] <paulo39> hmw, do you know how can i get some rights in the system by live cd? my question is, itś posssible login a user of hard disk system by the live cd system?
[18:08] <raviteja> bullgard4 no other solution
[18:08] <hmw> paulo39: you would do that as root (using sudo)
[18:08] <DasEi> How can I slower or scroll the boot messages at startup ? dumpfile only possib ?
[18:08] <militant> DasEi :  i've seen other people complain.   what i mean is when i zoom a page, it gets graphically very ugly, compared to doing the same page on windows.  and takes a LOT longer to complete the zoom too
[18:09] <hmw> bullgard4: i guess, you already looked at /var/log/messages?
[18:09] <user___> DasEi: dmesg contains a log of the boot messages
[18:09] <kaski> I just set my graphics settings to high
[18:09] <bullgard4> raviteja: My (limited) experience does not know a better solution.
[18:09] <kaski> What are the exact changes
[18:09] <ubuntistas> how can i install gtk?
[18:09] <kaski> !gtk
[18:09] <mib_kk799l> hi all..im reinstalling grub from the live cd..when i do setup (hd0) i get an error:  Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[18:10] <raviteja> is there anyone who can solve this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/134965/
[18:10] <mib_kk799l> i then did find /boot/grub/stage1
[18:10] <mib_kk799l> and it returns me a partition
[18:10] <hmw> raviteja: try sudo apt-get clean
[18:10]  * ortsvorsteher is afk
[18:10] <paulo39> hmw, but can i enter in the directory of the hard disk system?
[18:11] <mib_kk799l> but when i use that partition in the setup command i get the same error
[18:11] <gksu-user> Is "gksu" supposed to transfer X cookies like "sux"? It doesn't work for me: gksu -u foo xterm -> No protocol specifiedxterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.0
[18:11] <hmw> paulo: sure. 1) mount the file system. e.g. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  2) ls /mnt/lib/modules (would be empty in your case)
[18:12] <bullgard4> hmw: /var/log/messages does not reveal anything interesting for the problem at hand.
[18:12] <hmw> bullgard4: sorry, I have to give up on this issue.  Maybe complex partitioning/mounting or something alike. How "ordinary" is your server's setup?
[18:14] <gksu-user> Can I allow one user to "su" to become another user without passwords?
[18:14] <ubuntistas> anybody using gnome why my music isn't shown i music transfer?
[18:14] <DasEi> user___: haven't got a /var/run/dmesg.boot
[18:14] <ubuntistas> i mean gnomad2
[18:14] <bullgard4> hmw: Perhaps this is a good idea. Because I upgraded this Samba server from Ubuntu 6.06 though the years.
[18:15] <ubuntistas> how can i install gnomad2 targz file
[18:15] <ubuntistas> any clue help
[18:15] <hmw> raviteja: just a hint for the future: i googled the error message ("Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock") and found your solution on the first page. Websearching for error messages or virus names or strange program names (you found in your task list without expecting them there) helps often
[18:16] <user___> DasEi: just type dmesg in a terminal
[18:16] <hmw> bullgard4: draw back is of course, you wont know, what it is, when it happens again
[18:16] <bullgard4> hmw: Yes, this is true. --  Thank you for advising.
[18:16] <militant> ubuntistas  you've been told several times.  open a terminal, cd to th e directory it's in, do tar xvf gnomad2.tar.gz, cd to the new directory, and read the INSTALL.    or better yet, just run 'sudo apt-get install gnomad2'
[18:17] <hmw> bullgard4: i have another idea: you could grep certain dirs for the output you were expecting: grep -R '<searchtext>' <startdir>
[18:17] <kamekun> i connect my device fine but the sound is still on the laptop and not on the headset
[18:17] <hmw> bullgard4: (for the case, it is written to the wrong file)
[18:17] <alessandro_> ciao a tutti
[18:17] <mib_kk799l> hi..im reinstalling grub, but i get this: Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition . SOS!
[18:18] <bullgard4> hmw: But I do not know the exact string to grep for, unfortunately.
[18:18] <meteor> how well does songbird run on ubuntu?
[18:18] <ubuntistas> militant i did that it doesn't show me something when i do make
[18:18] <DasEi> thanks, user, or enabling bootlogging; there was a trick to scroll those messages at bootup, I forgot it, but dmesg is fine
[18:18] <hmw> bullgard4: uhm... grep for the host name of the client or it's IP
[18:18] <militant> ubuntistas  then use aptitude to install it.  that's what it's for
[18:18] <ubuntistas> i want the new version do u se gnomad2
[18:18] <Akkernight> does the Ubuntu have any known issues?
[18:19] <Akkernight> Ubuntu cals*
[18:19] <ubuntistas> i just don't see my song in music transfer
[18:19] <Akkernight> calc**
[18:19] <hmw> Akkernight: lots. What do you mean?
[18:19] <bullgard4> Akkernight: Yes. You can find them in Launchpad.
[18:19] <zaccour> im thinkin about trying opensuse. any experiences with that?
[18:19] <user___> zaccour: slow...
[18:19] <militant> nevermind
[18:19] <Akkernight> hmw, meant Ubuntu calc, in Applications ->Acessories -> Calc, sorry for that :S
[18:19] <usmat> irc://irc.abjects.net/cinefacts
[18:19] <alessandro_> channel italian?
[18:20] <hmw> zaccour: i have heard different opinions. Seems like it is quite ok for some people. I suggest, you try and see for yourself. Many people dislike YaST
[18:20] <eseven3> !it | alessandro_
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> !compile | ubuntistas
[18:20] <calc> Akkernight: heh ok :)
[18:20] <hmw> Akkernight: i still dont understand. Please ask a little more detailed question
[18:20] <Akkernight> Nevermind, it was me typing in the wrong numbers :S
[18:20] <zaccour> how do i enable dvd playback in xubuntu?
[18:21] <cristi_> !mousetweaks > cristi_
[18:21] <hmw> Akkernight: ic. :)
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> !dvd | zaccour
[18:21] <paulo39> there are some recover cd? that would recover my system?
[18:21] <hmw> paulo39: in most cases, i is much easier to reinstall the whole system rather than trying to repair it, unless you know, what youre up to
[18:21] <bullgard4> hmw: I will grep /var/log/ for 'MD97600'.
[18:22] <zaccour> ubottu, thanks
[18:22] <zaccour> ubottu, ok
[18:22] <hmw> bullgard4: grepping for the share name might be interesting, too.
[18:22] <bullgard4> hmw: Yes. Lets go.
[18:22] <paulo39> hmw, the little prblem is that i cant (i dont know why) make a back up of some files i had in the system directory :(
[18:23] <paulo39> i have the disk mounted, but i dont have permissions
[18:23] <paulo39> to extract some important files for him
[18:23] <DasEi> paulo:see :
[18:23] <DasEi> usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -L | -l | -V | -v
[18:23] <DasEi> usage: sudo [-bEHPS] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] [VAR=value]
[18:23] <DasEi>             {-i | -s | <command>}
[18:23] <DasEi> usage: sudo -e [-S] [-p prompt] [-u username|#uid] file ...
[18:23] <FloodBot2> DasEi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <DasEi> paulo: use sudo
[18:24] <paulo39> i used sudo
[18:24] <rar_> what is the gs process?
[18:24] <paulo39> and i dont had permissions
[18:24] <iptables-user> When I issue IPTABLES commands, do they persist through reboots? If not, how do I make them persist?
[18:24] <Krionic> how do you go about installing a package that requires dependencies which the Synaptic Package Manager says cannot be installed (" Depends: libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.14.1) but 2.12.9-3ubuntu5 is to be installed")
[18:25] <ajhais> hi everyone... i need some help... can we multi-thread the apt packet downloading...
[18:25] <Edico> hi
[18:25] <ajhais> i mean can we accelerate the downloading of source packages through internet ??
[18:25] <mvalviar> hi people. I'm trying to compile a gedit plugin and I'm getting an error at ./configure. It says checking for GEDIT... configure: error: Package requirements (
[18:25] <mvalviar> 	sm >= 1.0.0
[18:25] <mvalviar> 	libxml-2.0 >= 2.5.0
[18:25] <mvalviar> 	glib-2.0 >= 2.13.0
[18:25] <mvalviar> 	gthread-2.0 >= 2.13.0
[18:25] <FloodBot2> mvalviar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <mvalviar> 	gio-2.0 >= 2.16.0
[18:25] <LjL> ajhais: there is something called apt-torrent, but i think it's pretty experimental
[18:25] <crdlb> Krionic: that package is for a different version of ubuntu (or a different debian-based distro entirely)
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> !paste| mvalviar
[18:25] <Edico> how can I see uid and gid?
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> Edico, id
[18:25] <kamekun> i have a problem triying to connect my headset bluetooth device with blueman, is reconigse  the device and connect fine but the sound is still on the laptop, i have ubuntu 8.10
[18:26] <ajhais> LjL: okay... thanks.. i will check it out..
[18:26] <cristi_> but how i can stop a process to start wen ubuntu starts
[18:26] <Edico> thanks arvind_khadri
[18:26] <LjL> cristi_: is it a service started in /etc/init.d?
[18:26] <hmw> cristi_ you can configure your services in System > Administration > Services
[18:26] <DasEi> paulo: f.e.  sudo  cp -r /<yourFolder>  ~/Desktop                          doesn't work ?
[18:26] <Krionic> crdlb: it's a package listed in the Synaptic Package Manager. acroread, actually...
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> Edico, np
[18:26] <iptables-user> When I issue IPTABLES commands, do they persist through reboots? If not, how do I make them persist?
[18:26] <rar_> how can i display which files are opened by which process?
[18:26] <LjL> rar_: lsof
[18:27] <crdlb> Krionic: there's no acroread package in the ubuntu repos afaict
[18:27] <crdlb> at least not by that name
[18:27] <Impy> Hi does anyone who how i can get permission to use a partition i've selected to mount on boot with pysdm
[18:27] <LjL> iptables-user: no they don't, but you can use "iptable-save" and "iptables-restore" to achieve that
[18:27] <crdlb> Krionic: I seem to recall that you have to use medibuntu for that
[18:27] <LjL> !iptables > iptables-user    (iptables-user, see the private message from ubottu)
[18:27] <ScottG489> How can I get ubuntu to recognise my webcam on my laptop and/or my mic?
[18:27] <meteor> how well does songbird run on ubuntu?
[18:27] <hmw> cristi_ if it is not a service, it might be some autostart app. System > Administration > Sessions
[18:28] <sebsebseb> LjL: Isof is a command?
[18:28] <cristi_> thanks
[18:28] <binarymutant> what's "beta smoke testing" day?
[18:28] <pvtpete> hi. I'm a total noob and I can't get my head around installing binary packages on ubuntu  - perhaps someone could help
[18:28] <pvtpete> pleasssseeeee
[18:28] <crdlb> mvalviar: you need the gedit-dev package
[18:28] <NemesisD> hi. i have to instruct someone on how to reconfigure grub. anyone know how to get the hd(x,x) number for all partitions?
[18:28] <pvtpete> :)
[18:28] <hmw> sebsebseb: it is lsof (LSOF list open files)
[18:28] <sebsebseb> pvtpete: what do you want to install?
[18:28] <mintsoup> !apt-get
[18:28] <binarymutant> pvtpete, use synaptic, it's the easiest way
[18:28] <iptables-user> LjL: I guess if iptables do not persist, I just want a command line executed at startup as root
[18:28] <Krionic> crdlb: thank you. then I'll need to look for a pdf viewer that lets me write into a pdf file correctly then.  Evince doesn't work well...
[18:29] <pvtpete> it's crashing my computer
[18:29] <pvtpete> that thing
[18:29] <bigrigger> iptables-user: sudo iptables-save
[18:29] <sebsebseb> hmw: ok that was fun to fun
[18:29] <LjL> iptables-user: the "right" way is to use "iptables-save" and "iptables-restore", and you can certainly run those at startup, check the page (one way of running stuff at startup is /etc/rc.local)
[18:30] <Gnea> pvtpete: can't help you if you don't tell us what it is you need help with.
[18:30] <mvalviar> thanks. Let me try that. Sorry for the flood =D
[18:30] <pvtpete> ah - ok it's working now ;)
[18:30] <pvtpete> (agreed)
[18:31] <crdlb> Krionic: check your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* for a line containing the wrong distro version (intrepid, when it should be hardy)
[18:31] <Gnea> pvtpete: for a noob, you sure got it working quickly on your own :)
[18:31] <pvtpete> beginners luck
[18:31] <pvtpete> :D
[18:32] <pvtpete> is there any way to link to the sourceforge repository as a software source
[18:32] <pvtpete> btw
[18:32] <Gnea> does sourceforge offer .deb packages now?
[18:33] <binarymutant> pvtpete, some projects have deb packages but they are not repositories.
[18:33] <LjL> Gnea: that depends entirely on the project
[18:33] <LjL> Gnea: a project on SF might offer .deb's, another might not
[18:33] <emma> Do any of you run Debian?
[18:33] <binarymutant> emma, I do
[18:33] <Gnea> LjL: right, but AFAIK, SF does not have its own repository setup
[18:34] <meteor> how well does songbird run on ubuntu?
[18:34] <emma> When you run sudo aptitude -s --visual-preview install <package> in debian, will it install the package?
[18:34] <Krionic> crdlb: you're right on. for some reason I have a medibuntu.lst in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory.
[18:34] <LjL> Gnea: well no it doesn't, but a .deb package doesn't really need to live in a repository
[18:34] <usmat> #abjects
[18:34] <LakesProse> meteor: it's sluggish for me but I tried it wayback when it was admitted slowish
[18:34] <binarymutant> emma, I don't use aptitude on the regular sorry
[18:34] <Gnea> emma: that question might better be asked in #debian
[18:34] <crdlb> Krionic: that's how you were trying to get acroread; if you change the intrepid to hardy, and reload (sudo apt-get update), you should be able to get acroread
[18:35] <pvtpete> oh ok.. thanks binarymutant
[18:35] <binarymutant> emma, #debian is on irc.oftc.net
[18:35] <emma> binarymutant: thanks
[18:35] <emma> binarymutant: I think I have found a bug that affects aptitude in both debian and ubuntu
[18:36] <scunizi> When using scp is the syntax.. scp <user@host pulling file from>:file> <user@host copying file to> .. ?
[18:36] <Krionic> crdlb: my sources.list  shows all hardly sources. should that be intrepid instead?
[18:36] <binarymutant> emma, is it a bug in the --visual-preview switch?
[18:37] <Krionic> crdlb: i believe i installed hardy... that should be correct.
[18:37] <crdlb> Krionic: no, you're using hardy (8.04 LTS). you can upgrade to intrepid (8.10) if you want to, but you don't need to; hardy will be supported for a while
[18:37] <emma> binarymutant: On my machine (ubuntu intrepid) the --visual-preview swich is over-riding the -s switch (which should make it a simulation and not actually do the install).
[18:37] <gordonjcp> is there a way to completely reset Ubuntu's X configuration and set it all up from scratch?
[18:37] <binarymutant> scunizi, its correct
[18:37] <giorgos> hi...question -> should i choose ubuntu server or centos server to provide web hosting services?
[18:38] <gordonjcp> giorgos: which do you prefer?
[18:38] <binarymutant> emma, I'll try it with something
[18:38] <emma> binarymutant: I stumbled upon this just playing around with stuff after I read the entire aptitude man page. Just for education.
[18:38] <rar_> giorgos: any special needs?
[18:38] <DasEi> gordonjcp: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[18:38] <scunizi> binarymutant: thanks.. trying now.
[18:38] <arvind_khadri> !x | gordonjcp
[18:38] <giorgos> gordonjcp: What is the best for professional usage?
[18:39] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: I know what X is, thanks
[18:39] <crdlb> gordonjcp: if you just mean the xorg.conf; 'sudo dexconf' will give you a completely stock xorg.conf that you can customize
[18:39] <DasEi> gordonjcp: if you installed drivers, might de-install them,too
[18:39] <Krionic> crdlb, I see. so if i switch to intrepid I can get acroread. but that doesn't tell me why I have a medibuntu.list file. should that even be there?
[18:39] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, you can re-build it from scratch looking at some examples
[18:39] <emma> binarymutant: cool thanks.  I expected that it would give me the visual interface (as per --visual-preview) and do a simulation (as per -s), I intentionally chose a package I would not mind having installed just in case, but rather than what was expected, I got the visual UI but the package was actually installed when I did this: sudo aptitude -s --visual-preview install sbcl
[18:39] <giorgos> rar_: to make web pages for my customers
[18:39] <meteor> :(
[18:40] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: I think I'm about due a reinstall anyway
[18:40] <rar_> giorgos: use ubuntu. it works fine and you have a great community.
[18:40] <crdlb> Krionic: medibuntu is a third-party repo that you added following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu , but you accidentally added the intrepid version instead of hardy
[18:40] <saurabh1403> hello everyone...Can anyone tell me if there is some C++ reference manual which can be installed on ubuntu as a quick reference guide for C++ functions
[18:40] <Gnea> emma: doesn't --visual-preview denote that it switches out of commandline mode?
[18:40] <scunizi> binarymutant: I get permission denied even after entering the password.. I'm actually ssh'd into that machine right now so I know I can connect to it
[18:40] <Krionic> crdlb thank you. I will check the site and correct my mistake.
[18:41] <emma> Gnea: It does switch out of command line mode. It takes it to the visual UI. However, -s should make it read only in that case.
[18:41] <giorgos> rar_: In my desktop i use ubuntu but they say that centos is more stable and secure! Is it true?
[18:41] <emma> Gnea: After pressing 'g' in the visual UI, the package actually gets installed.
[18:41] <emma> Gnea: This is not what I was expecting with -s.
[18:41] <crdlb> Krionic: I guess the easiest solution is to delete /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list before running the command on that page
[18:41] <charlesatlas> I don't seem to be able to get my CD/DVD RW to work anymore.  It used to work!  How to check?
[18:41] <Gnea> emma: according to the manpage, -s only works when it's in commandline mode.  Therefore, anything that takes it out of commandline mode instantly invalidates its function.
[18:42] <emma> Gnea: (1) In that case if it isn't a bug it's an instance of a bug in the documentation because that's not clear at all. (2) That's not how I am reading the man page. Read the last sentence.
[18:42] <eqisow1> giorgos: probably more stable, since it's tied closely to RHEL
[18:42] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: there are a few other things that are behaving a bit oddly, but replacing my graphics card has really properly broken it now ;-)
[18:43] <emma>  -s, --simulate
[18:43] <emma>            In command-line mode, print the actions that would normally be performed, but don´t actually perform them.
[18:43] <binarymutant> scunizi, scp file user@host:/folder/to/put/it          or   scp user@host:/file/to/get /local/folder/to/put/in
[18:43] <emma>            This does not require root privileges. In the visual interface, always open the cache in read-only mode
[18:43] <shogo2040> hi, I have an Ubuntu GUI question.  What is the gui equivalent of mounting an ntfs partition? I tried Places->20 GB Media. Then it mounted on my desktop. perfect.  now I right click on the hard drive icon.. I hit Properties.. and I see many tabs.  Where is the checkbox to automount on boot?
[18:43] <emma>            regardless of whether you are root.
[18:43] <emma> oops (sorry didn't expect that to have new lines)
[18:43] <FloodBot2> emma: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, then replace the drivers :) and then rebuild X
[18:43] <emma> yes yes..
[18:43] <Gnea> emma: please use the pastebin site.
[18:43] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: well that's the thing, I can't convince it to replace the drivers
[18:43] <sebsebseb> lol emma got banned or whatever?
[18:43] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: 'doesn't work' isn't very informative.  Can you explain what happens and why you think it doesn't work?  Have you checked /var/log/messages for errors?
[18:43] <LjL> emma: you know the rules here very well, please respect them.
[18:43] <Gnea> no, just silenced
[18:44] <tamido> hi folks, How can I tell whether I use "Feisty Fawn", "Dapper Drake" or "Edgy Eft" version of ubuntu?
[18:44] <arvind_khadri> shogo2040, place the line to fstab
[18:44] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: I replaced an nvidia 7300GT with a slightly different kind of nvidia 7300GT, won't even get me into X
[18:44] <giorgos> eqisow1: Is centos more dificult to support it by an administrator or is the same with an ubuntu server?
[18:44] <emma> Gnea, LjL Yeah of course. That would have been fine if not for the newlines. It was a short paragraph if in one post. Not disrespect, an accident.
[18:44] <Gnea> emma: right, "print the actions that would normally be performed, but don´t actually perform them."
[18:44] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, :) i have the same card... install the drivers from the repo
[18:44] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I mean it does not mount or eject.  Brasero says there is no drive there
[18:44] <scunizi> binarymutant: nevermind I figured it out..
[18:44] <louis> hey i have problems with my apache: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80 , im looking in apache2.conf i dont found the line..
[18:44] <hmw> tamido: System > ABout Ubuntu
[18:44] <shogo2040> arvind. is there a way to do this without launching Terminal? basically i'm wondering if I can point and click my way to this.. since Ubuntu has the best Gnome desktop
[18:44] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: the drivers are already installed.  They don't work.
[18:44] <LjL> emma: well, just a suggestion - don't add another message after being warned by the floodbots, as that will cause, as you could witness, a mute
[18:45] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, which driver?
[18:45] <emma> yeah
[18:45] <Gnea> emma: therefore, whenever aptitude is *NOT* in command-line mode, that function will not work. it's that simple.
[18:45] <exodus_ms> emma, what are you doing, flooding the channel like that on accident, apologizing, and then explaining what happened... you should have known better :P
[18:45] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: nvidia-glx
[18:45] <emma> LjL: Yeah hehe.
[18:45] <tamido> thanks
[18:45] <emma> Gnea: that's not what it goes on to say in the last sentence though.
[18:45] <sebsebseb> emma:   I thought you were another emma, but it seems that your not
[18:45] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: this particular machine *was* using a 7300GT, which I've just swapped for a different 7300GT
[18:45] <eqisow1> giorgos: not much difference there, as long as your OK with RPM package management. not much difference security wise, assuming both are properly configured. All linux distro share TONS of code, so vulnerabilities often spread across distros
[18:45] <yellabs> hi there
[18:45] <filof> alguien que hable español?
[18:45] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, which ubuntu ?
[18:45] <LjL> !es | filof
[18:45] <ryanakca> !es | filof
[18:45] <sebsebseb> !es
[18:45] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: the original card was flaky which is why I changed it
[18:45] <shogo2040> I guess that can be a feature request for next version of Ubuntu.. checkbox under properties tab of a mounted HD to automount
[18:45] <emma> Gnea: The first sentence says what it will do in command line mode. The last sentence says *what it will do* in visual mode.
[18:45] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: hardy
[18:45] <yellabs> any one here who has regnum online running on their ubuntu desktop?
[18:46] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, aah ok... :)
[18:46] <ryanakca> How can I have Ubuntu bring up my wireless at boot instead of making me wait until I log in to KDE4/GNOME and start a networkmanager applet?
[18:46] <emma> Gnea: man aptitude and /-s
[18:46] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: I don't know *why* it doesn't like this card
[18:46] <ziggytob> recommendations please          which vmware works best with ubuntu 8.10 please thanks in advance
[18:46] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: ok, what does /var/log/messages tell you?  I would guess if the device is working (seen in BIOS) that an error would log during boottime.
[18:46] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: Nothing I can find in /var/log/messages related to that drive
[18:46] <lanteau> alright so at this point I really truly believe that using a bluetooth headset in ubuntu is impossible
[18:47] <sebsebseb> !best | ziggytob
[18:47] <shogo2040> ok.. i'll get down and unix dirty.. so I found this fstab thingie:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:47] <eqisow1> ryanakca: manually configure your wireless instead of using networkmanager
[18:47] <emma> Gnea: actually man aptitude and /--simulate takes you there.
[18:47] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, weird :)
[18:47] <shogo2040> I see two lines of fstab cryptic code
[18:47] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: indeed
[18:47] <shogo2040> UUID=12102C02102CEB83  /media/windows  ntfs-3g
[18:47] <shogo2040> auto,users,uid=1000,gid=100,dmask=027,fmask=137,utf8  0  0
[18:47] <gordonjcp> arvind_khadri: already removed the lines specifying PCI devices
[18:47] <shogo2040> what the heck is all that??
[18:48] <shogo2040> i'm only human :)
[18:48] <arvind_khadri> !fstab | shogo2040
[18:48] <eqisow1> ryanakca: see here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[18:48] <Gnea> emma: so if I am understanding you correctly, you're saying that, when mixed with the visual mode, it's supposed to protect the cache?
[18:48] <ryanakca> eqisow1: /etc/network/interfaces, correct? And then I suppose I have to uninstall NetworkManager (or just disable it)? What's the line for wpa?
[18:48] <emma> Gnea: -s, --simulate has two sentences. The first says what it will do in commandline mode, the second says what it will do in visual UI mode.
[18:48] <ajhais> LjL: apt-torrent uses bit-torrent protocol...  but that torrent ports are blocked in my network
[18:48] <ajhais> :(
[18:48] <eqisow1> ryanakca: You can just disable it, the wpa stuff is in the link I gave you
[18:49] <shogo2040> ok.. I am programming an fstab right now.
[18:49] <arvind_khadri> gordonjcp, i have no idea...
[18:49] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: you may also see if this article is any help: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+question/23415
[18:49] <emma> Gnea: Well my whole purpose for reading the man aptitude page is that I'm no expert and I'm trying to learn about linux. As I read the second sentence there it is indicating how it's going to prevent, for example any actual installation since it will all be read-only
[18:49] <ryanakca> eqisow1: Thanks
[18:50] <Gnea> emma: that seems to denote that there is a difference between actually performing the functions related to changing package installation context and keeping the package management cache read-only... I could be wrong if it's the 'package management' cache itself or not
[18:50] <shogo2040> configuring and understanding fstab will take me about an hour... so time for me to dive in.. but next time.. please place a checkbox in the GUI so I don't have to do this again on the next version :)
[18:50] <Gnea> emma: oh I understand :)
[18:50] <shogo2040> hehehehe!
[18:50] <newmember> how do I tell what is writing to a disk on linux?
[18:51] <Gnea> !fstab | shogo2040
[18:51] <shogo2040> yea yea.. i'm reading it
[18:51] <binarymutant> emma, it doesn't simulate for me either btw
[18:51] <shogo2040> time to vi mah files
[18:51] <emma> Gnea: But -s --visual-preview install sbcl did not just simulate an installation of sbcl, it installed it.
[18:51] <Gnea> shogo2040: if a checkbox is what you'd like to see, you may want to point it out to the developers :)
[18:51] <dvheumen> Does someone have any idea how to trace/fix segfaults?
[18:52] <DasEi> newmember: you want to know free diskspace ?
[18:52] <Krionic> crdlb: thank you so much. I was becoming very frustrated. it's working correctly now.
[18:52] <musikgoat|main> !strace | dvheumen
[18:52] <emma> binarymutant: is it a bug?
[18:52] <Gnea> emma: so the question then becomes, which 'cache' is it actually making read-only?
[18:52] <binarymutant> dvheumen, gdb *might* help
[18:52] <Assid> yello
[18:52] <newmember> DasEi: I tring to determine what process is writting to the disk
[18:52] <Assid> okay i got my hands on a compaq presario v6000
[18:52] <emma> Gnea: surely what it ought to do is go through the motions but not make any real changes. That's what -s should mean.
[18:52] <musikgoat|main> dvheumen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Strace
[18:52] <Jeruvy> !info strace | musikgoat|main
[18:52] <shogo2040> coolios.. but I gotta say.. Ubuntu is the easiest linux distros i've ever used...   I totally can see this OS maturing to an super easy to use desktop
[18:53] <DasEi> newmember: top shows running proceses
[18:53] <musikgoat|main> Jeruvy: was trying to get him more info, not the package info, but thanks
[18:53] <dvheumen> binarymutant: I've used gdb and I found that the stack trace ended in libc6.so.0
[18:53] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: Nope.  does not work.  It says there is no media in the drive when I try to mount or eject it.
[18:53] <dvheumen> binarymutant: but I don't know how to proceed from there to fix the segfault
[18:53] <giorgos> I hava ubuntu 8.10 and i hava a problem. Sometimes when i click on field to write something the cursor of mouse doesnot respond and i cant write. Any suggestion?
[18:53] <Assid> i keep running into some weird issue of wifi etc.. and its not letting me install
[18:53] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: It seems to see the drive itself
[18:53] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: I would see if the bios is still able to detect it.  It could have died :(
[18:54] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: bios see it just fine
[18:54] <giorgos> This happens in any program. For example i try to write a message on irc and when in click to write nothing happern
[18:54] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: you did check that link?
[18:54] <Gnea> emma: but as we just went through, clearly interpretted differently, we see that the documentation refers to the full functionality of the commandline switch while the program operates in command-line mode, not when it switches to a different mode, except in the case of the visual preview, which as it states, only makes the cache read-only, it doesn't say anything about preventing the package from not being installed in that frame of reference.
[18:54] <tq|Memphis> how can see running processes i mean which command
[18:54] <nightrid3r> i just got a 64bit system for general desktop use, is there any advantage in installing a 64bit ubuntu instead of a 32bit?
[18:54] <giorgos> *happens
[18:54] <anubis_> can anyone tell me the when it would be best to use hard links, and when it would be best to use soft links, what are the advantages each has?
[18:54] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: Yup, followed it exactly.  Says it is already linked
[18:54] <meteor> :(
[18:55] <Roasted> anybody running Ubuntu 8.10 on an Optiplex 740?
[18:56] <bin1010> I am using the sudo apt-get install/purge and i have a long list of things that are no longer required, but if I remove them using autoremove I can't get to the network.. :(..  is there a way to tell apt-get that "yes I know they are there and I still want them there"???
[18:57] <Abracadabr4> good evening
[18:57] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I know the bios sees it, as it will try to boot from it if I put a bootable cd in there.
[18:57] <eqisow1> bin1010: remove it and apt-get install it explicitly would be my suggestion
[18:57] <Gnea> emma: but what you're saying, is that the -s switch should provide its full functionality even when the --visual-preview is called, thus removing its dependency on being a commandline-only switch. Why not just add a whole new switch, say, -svp, which actually combines those functions and keeps the originals safe so that other system scripts aren't disrupted? :)
[18:57] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: did you modify the fstab file or install anything that did?  Or if there is a backup /etc/fstab or /etc/fstab.bak
[18:57] <dvheumen> binarymutant: right, I've also done a strace, should a paste it on paste.ubuntu.com (or something like that)
[18:57] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: nothing changed.  I went for lunch
[18:57] <bullgard4> hmw: I found now some interesting results. I started the client command at 19:51:01 local time. And ':~$ rgrep -i 'freigegebenMD' /var/log/ 2>/dev/null' got traces of it in /var/log/debug, /var/log/daemon.log, /var/log/syslog.
[18:58] <binarymutant> dvheumen, ya pastebin it
[18:58] <lampliter> having a problem blacklisting my laptop's webcam.
[18:58] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: well that will teach you :)  Seriously tho, I'm running out of ideas.
[18:58] <bin1010> but there are pastebin.com/m2399984e of them
[18:58] <Abracadabr4> Can anyone tell me how I can resize my hdd ? ... I have an 80Gb hdd with XP on 20Gb in primary, and have installed Ubuntu 8.04 and it has created an extended partition with all the rest of the space. I want to install another Linux on that hdd though
[18:58] <hmw> bullgard4: any conclusions?
[18:58] <ubuntistas> anyone using gnomad2 i cannot see my music in music transfer
[18:58] <bin1010> but there are http://pastebin.com/m2399984e of them
[18:58] <ubuntistas> ?
[18:58] <giorgos> I hava ubuntu 8.10 and i have a problem. Sometimes when i click on field to write something, the cursor of mouse doesnot respond and i cant write. Any suggestion?
[18:59] <Kriss3d> anyone know if its possible to access a harddrive from a vmware ?
[18:59] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: :)  for sure!  Stay hungry.  No, only one fstab file
[18:59] <eriol_> irc.voila.fr
[18:59] <nightrid3r> !gr | ubuntistas
[18:59] <binarymutant> emma, according to gnea it's not a bug, but this is why I stick with apt and synaptic
[18:59] <Gnea> !gparted | Abracadabr4 (gparted is a program that has resizing functionality built-in)
[18:59] <[DarkSun]> im trying to install ubuntu on my sunblade2000 and the install cd doesnt seem to want to lot me set the partition /dev/sda2 as anything except a LVM, any ideas, or any way to load the lvm-mod(it aparently is not included)???
[18:59] <dvheumen> binarymutant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/135011/
[18:59] <eqisow1> bin1010: well, it would actually still work... but it looks like something may have gotten messed up in apt. you could re-install ubuntu-desktop, if you prefer
[19:00] <sebsebseb> Kriss3d: yes, but  you would have to set up, and that would be a bit difficult, plus it's not the best thing to do that
[19:00] <hmw> sebsebseb: i was thinking about installing it on my notebook, too... maybe my sound gets better.... it basically works, but when I use the mouse (or sometimes even without doing anything), the sound stops and I have to restart the app (or X somtimes)
[19:00] <sebsebseb> hmw: your talking to me in the wrong place????
[19:00] <lampliter> past bin of log and blacklist entry or device  http://paste.ubuntu.com/135010/
[19:00] <Abracadabr4> Gnea, it doesn't let me resize the partition as it is in use by Ubuntu ...
[19:00] <dvheumen> binarymutant: it happens always when I try to start pidgin, but it happens occasionally on other programs too
[19:00] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: run lsmod, and pastebin the output
[19:00] <Gnea> Abracadabr4: that's what the livecd option is for
[19:00] <Kriss3d> sebsebseb, well i need my wifi drivers to work
[19:00] <lampliter> why is that not blacklistiing?
[19:00] <emma> Gnea: if it isn't a bug it a design flaw or a documentation problem.
[19:01] <tamido> I have ubuntu 8.10. Is it possible to install Internet explorer for earlier versions of ubuntu?
[19:01] <bin1010> i purged the network manager
[19:01] <bullgard4> hmw: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/394542/ --  No conclusions yet. I do not understand the output messages too well.
[19:01] <nightrid3r> tamido: internet explorer is for windows only, not for ubuntu
[19:01] <bin1010> its the only way I know how to get the box to work with static IPs and they actually stick
[19:01] <Abracadabr4> Gnea, so all I need is to boot from the liveCD and gparted from there ?
[19:02] <binarymutant> dvheumen, it's a mmap problem, I would write a bug report if pidgin segfaults on you all the time
[19:02] <binarymutant> dvheumen, if you do write a bug report include that strace
[19:02] <Gnea> emma: it sounds more to me like it's working as it was designed to. but, for the sake of argument and for improving the OS, I think you bring up a valid point. If I were you, I'd email the developers (maybe they have a mailing list?) and see what they think.
[19:02] <nightrid3r> i just got a 64bit system for general desktop use, is there any advantage in installing a 64bit ubuntu instead of a 32bit?
[19:02] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: http://www.pastebin.ca/1367389
[19:02] <ubuntistas> anyone using gnomad
[19:02] <ubuntistas> ?
[19:03] <Gnea> Abracadabr4: when you're booted from the livecd, the partitions in question aren't being used.
[19:03] <geeksauce> i have an external hard drive that's formatted HFS+ and used primarily with a mac. When i plug it into my linux box, only some of the folders are readable. the ones i cannot read from say i don't have sufficient permissions.  is there a way to change this without using my mac, since it's off in memphis for repair?
[19:03] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: well that is strange, I see cdrom listed.
[19:03] <dvheumen> binarymutant: but is it really caused by Pidgin, since I've had other crashes that also trace back to libc6 ... it seems all a bit too much of a coincidence
[19:04] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: exactly
[19:04] <hotgirlcandy9023> hi my name is candy i luv me sum candy so get me sum candy and flirt with me :)
[19:04] <Abracadabr4> Gnea: ok, thanks, I will give that a try. Is there any tools similar to Partition Magic that could resize the partitions, then reboot the PC to make the changes ?
[19:04] <Gnea> !ops | hotgirlcandy9023
[19:04] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I see it in nautilus.  It just won't mount.
[19:05] <meteor> lol
[19:05] <hmw> bullgard4 - try to place the shared folder NOT in /home and see, if it works
[19:05] <ubuntistas> i cannot sse my music in music transfer in gnomad2 any clue?
[19:05] <Gnea> Abracadabr4: not that I know of... I've used gparted before with success, so you may find yourself with a trial-and-error situation
[19:05] <binarymutant> dvheumen, libc is a huge library for all the normal C functions. so a lot of segfaults will show its coming from libc6 but when you strace it will show the actual function in the library thats messing up
[19:06] <Abracadabr4> Gnea: ok thanks
[19:06] <homeskill> how can i find out if ubuntu has drivers for my SanDisk ImageMate USB Card Reader (SDDR-05) ?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> homeskill: the companies website?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> homeskill: you got Ubuntu now?
[19:06] <bullgard4> hmw: This would be a major work.
[19:06] <homeskill> sebsebseb yeah i have ubuntu installed
[19:07] <gordonjcp> homeskill: if it doesn't need drivers for a Mac it won't need them for Linux
[19:07] <sebsebseb> homeskill: put your USB device in and find out if Ubuntu detects it then?
[19:07] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: well this may sound dumb, but try booting from livecd and seeing if it mounts properly, then copy the fstab file, reboot normally and compare.
[19:07] <geeksauce> anyone know if i can change the permissions on an HFS+ external drive from within linux?
[19:07] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I don't have a live Ubuntu CD.
[19:07] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I just have a BSD
[19:08] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I installed from usb thumb
[19:08] <dvheumen> binarymutant: alright, I'll accept that :). Another thing I'm curious about is the following: I've upgraded pidgin from 2.5.2 to 2.5.5. Since then pidgin stopped working, but when I downgrade to 2.5.2 it still doesn't work
[19:08] <sebsebseb> charlesatlas: ok well some would say BSD is better than Ubuntu.   at the end of the day  Ubuntu is Unix based and  BSD is real Unix
[19:08] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: that could work, hmm maybe the usb installer is at issue...check for bugs (lots)
[19:08] <The_Drizzle> Hello. Could anyone help me install the utilities necessary to build a custom kernel in Intrepid on a computer with no internet connection?
[19:09] <ubuntistas> i cannot sse my music in music transfer in gnomad2 any clue?
[19:09] <Akkernight> I added a new Keyboard Layout, now how do I apply it for the system ?
[19:09] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, ubuntu does not support custom kernels, use a distro that does....
[19:09] <alex1971> кто-то говорит по русски?
[19:09] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, there are MANY issues that arrise with ubuntu + custom kernel
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Akkernight: did you add the  keyboard layout swticher to your panel?  if not right click and add it
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Akkernight: oh wait
[19:10] <binarymutant> dvheumen, uh I don't have an answer for that, my suggestion would be to completely remove pidgin and then reinstall, but memory mapping problems are way over my head
[19:10] <LjL> !ru | alex1971
[19:10] <sebsebseb> Akkernight: I am thinking about language nevermind
[19:10] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, but essentially, all you need is gcc, ncurses and kernel source
[19:10] <locovicen> hola el canal en español?
[19:10] <ubd> whats a good torrent client for headless server?
[19:10] <sebsebseb> !es
[19:10] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, Is that true? I have a book ("Practical Guide to Ubuntu") that has a whole chapter on it...
[19:10]  * gordonjcp continues to struggle with the complexity of x.org
[19:10] <rar_> how can beagle and all that indexing be disabled?
[19:10] <dvheumen> binarymutant: okay, no problem, thanks for your help.
[19:11] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[19:11] <DasEi> I've got a ubuntubox behind a router: it takes the dhcp fine, I can ping the router, another machine can ping that ububox, no firewall installed,but no internet,  what to check ?
[19:11] <obey_me_> ubd:  i think Deluge can do what you need
[19:11] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, that is true, I have seen many people attempt it, it is possible but not supported or recommended
[19:11] <gordonjcp> come back XFree86, all is forgiven
[19:11] <ubd> obey_me_ how does deluge add torrents?
[19:11] <Akkernight> wait, why doesn't Code::Blocks allow me to type ~ ? The way my keyboard types this is holding down Alt Gr +  another button which name I don't know
[19:11] <alex1971> kto-to govorit po russky?
[19:11] <gordonjcp> this x.org stuff is *rubbish*
[19:12] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, In a few words, why all the trouble?
[19:12] <DivineEntity> DasEi have a nameserver ?
[19:12] <xray7224> ubd go to the torrent and click open with or in deluge go to file then open
[19:12] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, I'm reading that link, by the way
[19:12] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: ok, get this.  I stuck in a SimCity CD and it recognized it?????
[19:12] <obey_me_> ubd:  i don't know, i just use the desktop version.  but check out their website, they have good documentation
[19:12] <rar_> how to disable indexing?
[19:12] <xray7224> oooooooo cli version ?
[19:12] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, ubuntu has implemented systems that install say, alsa modules via the package management system. On a modified ubuntu kernel you will not be able to install these modules the ubuntu way
[19:12] <DasEi> DivineEntity: resolv.conf is in order, hosts.deny/allow,  too
[19:12] <ubd> OK
[19:12] <ubd> TY
[19:13] <zaccour> i need to delete a file from my usb flash drive but there is not enough space on my system to do so. what do i do?
[19:13] <Jeruvy> charlesatlas: good stuff.  So it's not a drive issue, its a media issue.
[19:13] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, I see. I guess that's the trade-off between ease of use and power/customizability
[19:13] <gordonjcp> how can I disable "low graphics mode"?
[19:13] <LjL> not enough space to *delete* a file? :o
[19:13] <Akkernight> does UTF-8 support '~' ?
[19:13] <DivineEntity> how about "netstat -rn"
[19:13] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: I've tried 3 different CDRW and a DVD RW
[19:13] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, exactly
[19:13] <alessandro_> scusate for italian?
[19:13] <gordonjcp> LjL: possibly .Trash is full
[19:13] <xray7224> to find out whats taking all the space to df /
[19:13] <LjL> Akkernight: what do you mean? it has that character, of course
[19:13] <LjL> !it | alessandro_
[19:14] <sebsebseb> !tab |  xray7224
[19:14] <hmw> Akkernight: you might have to press the ~ key and then [space]
[19:14] <cegopaiva> hi everyone
[19:14] <LjL> zaccour: tried using "rm"?
[19:14] <xray7224> shut up sebsebseb
[19:14] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, you don't need to use trash for removing a file from an external media.
[19:14] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, In that case, is it possible to easily build a module/driver for a new hardware item in ubuntu?
[19:14] <zaccour> LjL, whats rm?
[19:14] <cegopaiva> how can i compile my kernel in ubuntu 8.10?
[19:14] <LjL> zaccour: a CLI command to delete files
[19:14] <amitbk> Hello everybody, can someone help me with controlling my fan on my laptop?
[19:14] <s3r3n1t7> !kernel | cegopaiva
[19:14] <zaccour> Lj where do i find it?
[19:14] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: but nautilus will create a trash folder, and if you try to delete it will really move it to the trash
[19:14] <homeskill> sebsebseb linux just said 'usb' when i plugged it in, but it's not showin any of the files on my card reader
[19:14] <zaccour> Lj whats cli?
[19:14] <LjL> !attitude | xray7224
[19:14] <xray7224> to delet commands via cli use rm or for folder rm -rf
[19:15] <LjL> !cli | zaccour
[19:15] <ubuntistas> how can convert oga file to mp3?
[19:15] <sebsebseb> homeskill: I don't know that much about USB devices under ubuntu
[19:15] <xray7224> LjL i know how to speak to poeple thanks
[19:15] <LjL> xray7224: no, quite clearly you don't, or you wouldn't tell someone who gave you a helpful factoid to "shut up" like that.
[19:15] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, you don't need to use the trash. Open command line and move to the folder that has the file in question. Then it's ==> rm <file> <== to remove the file.
[19:15] <sebsebseb> LjL: don't worry about that one. I told this person to join actsaully
[19:15] <Akkernight> hmw, you were right, but why o.o?
[19:15] <xray7224> LjL: that depends if you know them or not
[19:16] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: I'm not the one having the problem, and I'm well aware of how to use rm ;-)
[19:16] <sebsebseb> xray7224: don't argue with the op.  you came here to help others :)
[19:16] <sayuncle> hi all
[19:16] <zaccour> LjL, can you guide me through rm?
[19:16] <LjL> xray7224, sebsebseb: alright. still, i expect you to keep a decent attitude in this channel, you can joke with one another in PM
[19:16] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: I'm the one having the "no graphics after replacing a graphics card with a nearly identical one" problem
[19:16] <geeksauce> can someone help me out with an external HFS+ hdd and ownership permissions?
[19:16] <LjL> zaccour: forget "rm" for the time being. can you open a terminal?
[19:16] <BarTriX> !kernel
[19:16] <zaccour> yes
[19:17] <zaccour> LjL, yes
[19:17] <xray7224> telling someone to shutup isnt exactly insultive anyway for arguments sake im gunna shutup
[19:17] <charlesatlas> Jeruvy: maybe brasero is not what I should be using?  It does not see the drive when I try to erase the dvd +RW
[19:17] <mrwes> listens in...
[19:17] <hmw> Akkernight: it is interpreted as an "additional" thingy to certain chars, like in spanish. same as the accents or the ^ sign. guess it depends on some conf, because on some linuxes, my ~ just comes without space
[19:17] <LjL> zaccour: type "df", and put the output of it into the pastebin please
[19:17] <deany> ive made a usb startup with the util provided in ubuntu, using a desktop iso, can i use an alternative iso too?
[19:17] <sayuncle> trying to remove a bad bootloader, its grub btw and replace it with a fresh grub....... pc wont load up my live ubuntu cd though, goes to grub and then boots into windows
[19:17] <gordonjcp> right, giving up, time to reinstall
[19:17] <Akkernight> hmw, I can type ~ without space in everything expect for Code::Blocks
[19:17] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, Any resources you could point me to for compiling a new kernel module/driver in ubuntu?
[19:17] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, if you're well aware on how to use rm then you should also know how to avoid using trash. If you've replaced your graphics card with a _nearly_ identical one you might want to check versions. They usually differ.
[19:18] <amitbk> Hello everybody, can someone help me with controlling my fan on my laptop?
[19:18] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, All I'm really after is gettin gmy ralink wireless card working :P
[19:18] <hmw> Akkernight; No idea, guess you have to ask google for further info. Btw. What is Code::Blocks?
[19:18] <Titan8990> !wireless | The_Drizzle
[19:18] <zaccour> LjL, im gonna restart and brb
[19:18] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, Right on. Thanks for your help
[19:18] <DasEi> sayuncle: did you set bios to boot from cd ?
[19:18] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, that might require ndiswrapper, I don't know if it has native linux drivers
[19:18] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: I'm not the one having problems deleting files from a memory stick.  I simply suggested that the reason whoever it was saw a message that there wasn't enough free space to delete a file was because it actually wanted to move it to .Trash
[19:19] <LjL> zaccour: if your HD is full, your system might not even restart properly
[19:19] <LjL> gah
[19:19] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, but ndiswrapper should always be a last resort
[19:19] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: why the hell are you bugging *me* about .Trash?  Didn't you read the rest of the conversation?
[19:19] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, I think it does have native drivers since 2.6.26 or so
[19:19] <Titan8990> The_Drizzle, also, check the restricted driver manager
[19:19] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, because your statement was wrong.
[19:19] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: no, it was not wrong
[19:19] <hmw> bullgard4: falls du den befehl noch nicht kennen solltest, probier mal smbtree
[19:19] <DivineEntity> kill each other !
[19:19] <The_Drizzle> Titan8990, I just need to build it against the right kernel headers, right?
[19:20] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, a memory stick does not have a trash. Thus a file can't be moved to .Trash, not from nautilus either.
[19:20] <sayuncle> das ei yes i did
[19:20] <mrwes> s3r3n1t7, mine does
[19:20] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: and yet I'm looking at a memory stick *right now* with a .Trash directory on it
[19:20] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: so where did that come from?
[19:20] <sayuncle> DasEi yes i did
[19:20] <mrwes> gordonjcp, I agress...my stick has a .trash with files and info
[19:21] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: and, curiously enough, if I "delete" stuff in nautilus, they magically reappear in .Trash
[19:21] <DasEi> sayuncle: why won't it boot the cd ? bad/dirty ?
[19:21] <sayuncle> its a problem with grub, i need to remove it and reinstall ubuntu
[19:21] <sayuncle> cd is fine
[19:21] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, then you've formatted it with a filesystem other then fat, which is what any preformatted stick comes with.
[19:21] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: nope, this is using vfat
[19:21] <DasEi> sayuncle: so can you boot live or not ?
[19:21] <zaccour> LjL, im back
[19:21] <sayuncle> no cant
[19:21] <zaccour> LjL, whats that command again?
[19:21] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: just to prove the point I have just taken a brand new 4GB USB stick out of the plastic and put it on my laptop
[19:21] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, good luck finding a .Trash. Not going to continue this discussion with a yes/no
[19:22] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: good, please stop discussing it.  You're just plain wrong.
[19:22] <ShinyHat> can someone help me be able to play media on vlc from a windows network?
[19:22] <DasEi> sayuncle:can't you boot any cd ?
[19:22] <zaccour> how do i remove files from my usb flash drive without using trash?
[19:22] <user___> ShinyHat: hmm, can you tell us a bit more? thanks!
[19:22] <sayuncle> once it attempts to boot ubuntu, grub loads and says restording or restting bot
[19:22] <sayuncle> and then vista kicks in
[19:23] <LjL> zaccour: "df"
[19:23] <zaccour> ok
[19:23] <DasEi>  !samba | ShinyHat
[19:23] <sayuncle> and yes it will boot other disks, but none of my linux disks
[19:23] <LjL> zaccour: pastebin the output of that command
[19:23] <mrwes> zaccour, from nautilus, you can highlite the files, hold down the shift key and hit delete -- bypasses the trash
[19:23] <zaccour> LjL,  should i pastebin it?
[19:23] <s3r3n1t7> gordonjcp, there's no need to have the last word. This is just a plain yes/no discussion and there is no way out of it other then just to stop it. None of my sticks have a .Trash on it, yours do. Great for you, have fun with it. Now stop it, thank you.
[19:23] <zaccour> oh ok
[19:23] <AZP> hola
[19:23] <LjL> zaccour: yes please
[19:23] <DasEi>  !nfs | ShinyHat
[19:23] <LjL> mrwes: right, but let's do one thing at a time - since i suspect her main HD might be full, which is a Bad Thing (tm)
[19:24] <ShinyHat> ubuntu intrepid on laptop, xp on desktop, sharing is set up and i can see the media
[19:24] <theshadow> Ok for some reason apt-get --purge remove apache2 isn't removing anything I'm trying to completely wipe and it and reinstall because the upgrade from 7.10 -> 8.04 appears to have foobard a few thigns.
[19:24] <mrwes> LjL, gotcha
[19:24] <DasEi> sayuncle:if you can boot a cd, it won't touch the hd..
[19:24] <sayuncle> yes
[19:24] <brundisium> ciao
[19:24] <giorgos> Does anyone knows how to run a movieclip in multiple windows cuncurrently?
[19:25] <brundisium> !list
[19:25] <LjL> !it | brundisium
[19:25] <sayuncle> i can boot myvista disk
[19:25] <user___> ShinyHat: so what doesnt work?
[19:25] <sayuncle> i need to create a new bootloader
[19:25] <zaccour> LjL, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m158befac
[19:25] <gordonjcp> s3r3n1t7: then stop sticking your oar in
[19:25] <mrwes> drwx------  4 bill root 16384 2008-10-29 15:29 .Trash-1000 <---- that's from my USB drive
[19:25] <giorgos> Does anyone knows how to run a movieclip in multiple windows cuncurrently?
[19:25] <meteor> :(
[19:26] <LjL> gordonjcp, s3r3n1t7: stop quarrelling now.
[19:26] <user___> giorgos: you could try to start the player from the commandline 2 times
[19:26] <hmw> ShinyHat - sometimes it wont work until you "mounted" the share before accessing it for video playback - just browse to the regarding share via the network, so that the icon of the share appears on the desktop, then video playback should work
[19:26] <ShinyHat> uuser___: i can see all the media files, and when dbl clicking they open vlc, but then nothing happens
[19:26] <LjL> zaccour: ok so none of your drives are full, which means i really cannot understand why it doesn't let you delete
[19:26] <meteor> how well does songbird run on ubuntu?
[19:26] <Newbuntu> Giorgos do yo mean on the same screen?
[19:26] <ShinyHat> hmw: icon is on the desktop
[19:26] <gordonjcp> is there a better channel for asking about x.org problem
[19:26] <gordonjcp> s
[19:26] <user___> ShinyHat: ok, so you have no debug  message. to get one just start vlc from the command line and open the media file
[19:27] <amitbk> Guys, I need some help regarding my fan on my laptop
 yes this is a way. I had in mind something like the multivideo in elive, if you know.
[19:27] <zaccour> because i have an 8 gb hard drive there isnt enough space on my system
[19:27] <LjL> zaccour: try doing "touch /media/disk/testfile" and tell me what it tells you
[19:27] <LjL> zaccour: but you're not deleting a file which is 8 gb big, are you?
[19:27] <amitbk> as it doesn't detect the temp of the CPU it just start working some times, and doesn't stop.
[19:27] <hmw> ShinyHat - but it still won't do? and it plays local files without problems?
[19:27] <ShinyHat> user___: any special command?
[19:27] <zaccour> no, its on a flash drive
[19:27] <geoaxis> any one using ubuntu 64 bit here? i am really annoyed with poor firefox performance
[19:27] <LjL> zaccour: right but i mean, is it particularly big?
[19:27] <ShinyHat> hmw: local files are problem free
[19:27] <user___> ShinyHat: no, just 'vlc $media-file' for now
 yes in the same screen, and plays the same time cuncurrent!
[19:27] <geoaxis> mainly due to 64 bit flash
[19:28] <zaccour> LjL, yes there is not enough room on my system to put it in trash
[19:28] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: Flash 10 64bit?
[19:28] <ajhais> anyone knows how to speedup debian packages downloading....?? like multi-threading may be
[19:28] <erUSUL> geoaxis: no complains about firefox here
[19:28] <amitbk> is this the right channel to ask about the temp sensor and the fan on my laptop? :)
[19:28] <LjL> zaccour: that's the error that it gives you, alright - but i'm not willing to just believe it's true unless you can CONFIRM that the file is very big
[19:28] <geoaxis> sebsebseb:  i think it uses npviewer.bin
[19:28] <LjL> amitbk: if you're on ubuntu and would like to know how to access the sensor/fan information, yes
[19:28] <zaccour> LjL, its an iso
[19:29] <theshadow> seriously. why isn't apt-get remove --purge apache2 completely removing the package?
[19:29] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: Flash  is closed source, so  if you get issues with it, not much that can be done.  also Ubuntu's version of Firefox is unoffical
[19:29] <LjL> amitbk: although there is also an #ubuntu-laptop channel that might help
[19:29] <geoaxis> but i had 32 bit ubuntu for 8.4, never had any problem..
[19:29] <LjL> zaccour: a CD ISO or a DVD ISO?
[19:29] <Newbuntu> GIO: Mind if i ask for what purpose?
[19:29] <mrwes> theshadow, use apt-get autoremove package
[19:29] <zaccour> LjL, dvd iso
[19:29] <gordonjcp> !lowgraphics
[19:29] <zaccour> LjL, almost 4 gb
[19:29] <amitbk> LjL: It looks a little dead on the -laptop channel
[19:29] <LjL> zaccour: alright, then it might indeed be to big
[19:29] <gordonjcp> does anyone know how to disable "low graphics mode"?
[19:29] <zaccour> LjL, thats why im here
[19:29] <amitbk> LjL: do you think you could help me with that?
[19:29] <geoaxis> sebsebseb:  agreed, but i just wonder what happened to a sane browser from 8.4, it's unbearable in 8.10
[19:29] <LjL> zaccour: try doing what mrwes said, i.e. select the file, and then hit Del *while* also keeping Shift pressed
[19:30] <LjL> amitbk: i don't know, maybe, explain your issue
[19:30] <mrwes> wh00p!
[19:30] <mrwes> heh
[19:30] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: go use another browser?  loads of good ones to choose from
[19:30] <ShinyHat> user___: anything in particular i should be looking for?
[19:30] <geoaxis> i have chromium-browser from daily builds and much better
[19:30] <DasEi> further ideas on that ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/135027/
[19:30] <amitbk> there is no detection of my CPU temperature
[19:30] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: or try the latest 3.1 beta from Mozilla?
[19:30] <geoaxis> but does not have flash :(
[19:30] <steevz> Anyone else here using Maya 8.5 in Ubunutu?
[19:30] <gordonjcp> I don't know why I bother, no-one ever answers questions in here
[19:30] <deany> no probs with FF here.. even with 6 plugins, nice.
[19:30] <LjL> zaccour: i know that's why you're here, but i simply won't just believe a "not enough space" error prima face without making sure it's not giving the WRONG error
[19:30] <theshadow> mrwes: yea thats not working. I remove the package and go and reinstall and its not restoring /etc/apache2 to the default state
[19:30] <geoaxis> sebsebseb:  tried that too ...no love..it keeps crashing
[19:30] <user___> ShinyHat: you can pastebin the output if you want and we take a look at it
[19:31] <user___> !pastebin | ShinyHat
[19:31] <MNichie_home> My system wont start up in graphics mode, I've tried reconfiguring xserver and manually starting x but nothing is working, anybody have any ideas?
[19:31] <amitbk> LjL: so my fan starts working when something, i guess the hardware, tells it to. and doesn't stop.
[19:31] <geoaxis> my pidgin is also crashing more and more ..and its getting worse
[19:31] <zaccour> LjL, thanks man
[19:31] <ShinyHat> hmw: ok, cool
[19:31] <LjL> gordonjcp: i'm sorry but i don't even know what a "low graphics mode" is, must have been something they added to newer versions that i'm not using
[19:31] <gordonjcp> LjL: which version are you using?
[19:31] <LjL> amitbk: laptop brand and model?
[19:31] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: ok on 32bit  Flash  crashed a lot on 8.10.  ,but now I am on 9.04 alpha6, and well I had interesting crash last night to do with FLash and Firefox I thought, but it was differnet  this time round.  but anyway.   Flash 10  was there and working nicely today.   I had run 8.10  without FLash since last year
[19:31] <brad__> what is the best way to debug a kernel panic when booting from the 8.10 and 9.04 cds?
[19:31] <LjL> gordonjcp: Kubuntu Hardy
[19:31] <zaccour> mrwes, thanks
[19:31] <geoaxis> i am not really sure as to why ...perhaps with an empty user profile it would be better, just want to know if any one else is experiencing it
[19:31] <mrwes> theshadow, hrmm...try synaptic manager and when you hightlight the package choose complete removal
[19:31] <zaccour> LjL, it worked
[19:31] <gordonjcp> LjL: I'm using Ubuntu Hardy
[19:31] <deany> geoaxis, getdeb.net is your friend
[19:31] <zaccour> yeehaw
[19:32] <sebsebseb> geoaxis:  Firefox and Flash  =  Firefox crash, for some of us
[19:32] <mrwes> zaccour, nod...your welcome
[19:32] <zaccour> im using alpha
[19:32] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: every other app would be fine for me
[19:32] <LjL> gordonjcp: ok so what exactly is this low graphics mode? i've never encountered it
[19:32] <theshadow> mrwes: this is a server not a desktop
[19:32] <gordonjcp> LjL: basically it runs a crappy X display in 640x480 if it fails to start X, rather than just dropping back to console
[19:32] <DasEi> brad__: take a look in /var/log/syslog
[19:32] <mrwes> theshadow, figures :)
[19:32] <gordonjcp> LjL: and it's making troubleshooting my X problems very very difficult
[19:32] <zaccour> i had to use alpha to get my wired internet to work
[19:32] <brad__> DasEi: I am getting the kernel panic from the livecd
[19:32] <mrwes> theshadow, then rm the files manually
[19:32] <LjL> gordonjcp: well, you can drop to a console by doing "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop"
[19:32] <brad__> DasEi: so I never can ever get to the installer to install
[19:32] <deany> remove pidgin, purple and libpurple, and your .purple folder in home folder, install latest from getdeb
[19:33] <theshadow> mrwes: I did. but installing apache isn't restoring the files
[19:33] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: you should try other browsers, loads of good ones to choose from
[19:33] <DasEi>  !bootopitions | brad__
[19:33] <gordonjcp> LjL: yes, but I don't want to have to keep doing that every time I try to start X and it doesn't work
[19:33] <amitbk> LjL: Toshiba Satellite S-6898
[19:33] <DasEi>  !bootopitons | brad__
[19:33] <brad__> DasEi: I tried a bunch of boot options
[19:33] <gordonjcp> LjL: I'm beginning to think I just need to wipe and reinstall
[19:33] <brad__> DasEi: and each time it still paniced
[19:33] <geoaxis> sebsebseb:  i always come crawling back to FF due to extensions :)
[19:33] <LjL> gordonjcp: try starting it with "startx" instead of letting GDM start it - i suspect that will bypass the low graphics mode thingie
[19:33] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: ok I have an idea
[19:33] <amitbk> LjL: well, A-305 S6898
[19:33] <mrwes> theshadow, did you ask over in #ubuntu-server -- the dead channel? heh
[19:33] <DasEi> brad__: checked the cd ?
[19:33] <brad__> yes
[19:33] <brad__> I md5ed the iso
[19:33] <tuxtox> i just install ubuntu 8.1 on an acer 5335.  I also install 8.1 on a different acer 5335.  The first time I installed the wireless worked without any updates.  the second time the wireless did not work.  whats up?
[19:34] <brad__> and the disk itself, and they match the checksum on the website
[19:34] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: put Flash block on in  Firefox the add on yeah.  and then you can  run  Mozilla's  Flash plugin no problem in other browsers that  use it such as, Epiphany, Galeon, and Seamonkey
[19:34] <DasEi> brad__: there also is a boot-choice check media
[19:34] <brad__> I am pretty sure it isn't the media
[19:34] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: and then you can use Firefox for other stuff
[19:34] <DasEi> brad__: what a machine are you using ?
[19:34] <brad__> by the time it panics, the keyboard leds blink, and there is no way to debug it find out what went wrong
[19:34] <brad__> hp 530j
[19:34] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: basically make it so you can use that FLash, but  not in Firefox only other browsers
[19:35] <geoaxis> sebsebseb:  let me try
[19:35] <brad__> 8.04 boots fine
[19:35] <brad__> which is what I am using now
[19:35] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: I think the add on is called Flash block or something like that.  you will find one I expect
[19:35] <brad__> so something changed between 8.04 -> 8.10 -> 9.04
[19:35] <mrwes> theshadow, you try this?     sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[19:35] <ShinyHat> user___: sorry it took so long, first time doing that :)  http://paste.ubuntu.com/135032/
[19:35] <LjL> amitbk: do you think this might be relevant? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/226397
[19:35] <gordonjcp> LjL: yeah, that helps it
[19:35] <user___> ShinyHat: dont worry ;-)
[19:35] <bonhoffer> i forgot my user password -- how do i reset?
[19:36] <bey0ndall> I have been dual-booting ubuntu 8.10 from an external hard drive, as my vista is rather destroyed. =X I have decided that I'd prefer to install Ubuntu as my main OS so that I don't have to boot from my external hard drive. I know how to go about doing this, but my only question is if there is a way to install my external hard drive Ubuntu (to keep settings, apps, etc), or if there is a way to import settings and files once a new ubuntu is installed on
[19:36] <theshadow> yep
[19:36] <theshadow> mrwes: yes
[19:36] <zaccour> are there any other distros that work as well and easy as ubuntu?
[19:36] <LjL> bonhoffer: what version?
[19:36] <tuxtox> I just installed 8.1 on an acer 5335 and the wireless does not work.  But I just installed 8.1 on a different acer 5335 and it worked from a fresh install.  Same install disk.  Is there a way to enable wireless?
[19:36] <LjL> !offtopic | zaccour
[19:37] <mrwes> relief
[19:37] <user___> ShinyHat: you need to replace $media-file with one of your media files ($media-file is a place holder only)
[19:37] <charlesatlas> zaccour: Mint is good.  An offshoot of Ubuntu though.
[19:37] <XP|USB|XP|526903> hey
[19:37] <XP|USB|XP|526903> do want to chat with me
[19:37] <ShinyHat> user___: ok, but local files work fine
[19:37] <LjL> !chat | XP|USB|XP|526903
[19:37] <sebsebseb> geoaxis: then  do this :)   sudo apt-get install  epiphany-browser  galeon seamonkey
[19:37] <Bruce> how do i install tcl libraries in ubuntu?
[19:38] <LjL> err, not the factoid i wanted to give, but this channel is not for chat, XP|USB|XP|526903
[19:38] <amitbk> LjL: it sounds similar, but as I get no temperature detection for the CPU here, i don't know if it's the same.
[19:38] <user___> ShinyHat: we were talking about remote files, right?
[19:38] <ShinyHat> user___: would a local file yeild anything useful
[19:38] <tuxtox> I just installed 8.1 on an acer 5335 and the wireless does not work.  But I just installed 8.1 on a different acer 5335 and it worked from a fresh install.  Same install disk.  Is there a way to enable wireless?
[19:38] <ShinyHat> user___: where in the file system do i find the mounted shared folder?
[19:38] <deany> bey0ndall, backup your home folder, and reinstall, with seperate /home and install the same apps, howtoforge has guide for saving your package list..the restore your home
[19:38] <LjL> amitbk: are you sure you have no temperature detection? laptops usually do, you can probably see it from ACPI or by installing "lm-sensors". anyway, a workaround i can think of is installing the "toshset" package, which will let you control the fan manually on Toshiba laptops
[19:39] <mrwes> ShinyHat, maybe /media ?
[19:39] <mitesh> !jaunty
[19:39] <ShinyHat> mrwes: not there, first place i looked
[19:39] <brad__> so is there anything else I can do to debug a kernel panic from the livecd?
[19:40] <deany> cant be that much breakage between NOW and april.. :)
[19:40] <user___> ShinyHat /mnt?
[19:40] <mrwes> ShinyHat, shared as in samba share?
[19:40] <LjL> deany: it can be
[19:40] <tuxtox> I just installed 8.1 on an acer 5335 and the wireless does not work.  But I just installed 8.1 on a different acer 5335 and it worked from a fresh install.  Same install disk.  Is there a way to enable wireless?
[19:40] <ShinyHat> mrwes: probably, im not sure
[19:40] <bey0ndall> Thanks deany
[19:40] <deany> april is 5mins away..
[19:40] <ShinyHat> user___: not in /mnt either
[19:41] <sebsebseb> deany: no it's not
[19:41] <amitbk> Ljl: i installed lm-sensors as I didn't have the temp reading with intrepid after i installed it. see what i get now: http://pastebin.com/m2605a495
[19:41] <user___> mrwes: what do you suggest? ;-)
[19:41] <deany> not far away.....
[19:41] <mrwes> ShinyHat, a samba share from another computer? if so, you need to look in the /etc/samba/smb.conf and see where/what's shared
[19:41] <LjL> deany: no, it's ten days away, and a lot of things can break in ten days.
[19:41] <sebsebseb> deany: yep and the final release is on like 23rd Aprli
[19:41] <user___> ShinyHat: 'mount' might help us
[19:42] <deany> lol.. well that changes things
[19:42] <deany> ok, its got a long way yet
[19:42] <LjL> amitbk: alright, so acpi isn't helping... anyway give toshset a try, you could always perhaps set it on crontab to turn the fan off every couple of minutes
[19:42] <sebsebseb> deany: yep and this  alpha6 is not that impressive, altough I  have come across two imporvements to Gnome that I like a lot :)
[19:42] <mrwes> ShinyHat, here's my samba shares mounted: //<IP_ADDRESS>/MyFiles on /home/bill/SharedFiles type cifs (rw,mand)
[19:42] <epaphus> hello all.... Iam trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on my USB flash drivel... it finished the install fine.. but when I try to boot from the USB it says "No active partition" ... anybody have any idea why this happens?
[19:43] <deany> epaphus, set it active
[19:43] <tuxtox> I just installed 8.1 on an acer 5335 and the wireless does not work.  But I just installed 8.1 on a different acer 5335 and it worked from a fresh install.  Same install disk.  Is there a way to enable wireless?
[19:43] <mrwes> epaphus, did you flag the partition as 'boot' ?
[19:43] <amitbk> LjL: do you think there might be a way to get the lm-sensors to properly detect the CPU temp? after all I would like the fan to work when needed, and not just manually start and stop it...
[19:44] <epaphus> deany, how? .. mrwes .. i just did the general install from ubuntu 8.10... i think it should have done this automatically right?
[19:44] <ShinyHat> mrwes: hopefully you guys will be here in a bit, i need to go take care of something- brb
[19:44] <mrwes> ShinyHat, get me a beer while you're at it will ya?
[19:44] <deany> epaphus, check with fdisk -l
[19:44] <mrwes> heh
[19:44] <deany> is there an * there
[19:44] <spamjam> hi, just a quick question. i have intrepid and have compizconfig installed. under the windows decoration menu, the command is /usr/bin/compiz-decorator. is this the default window manager for intrepid? i thought it was metacity?
[19:44] <epaphus> deany, how do I do that if I cannot enter the OS?
[19:45] <tuxtox> i dont mean to be pushy, but can any one see my messages?
[19:45] <mrwes> sudo fdisk -l
[19:45] <LjL> amitbk: well, you should run "sudo sensors-detect" to get lm-sensors to work. but even then, that just gives you temperature *readings*, it won't control your fan (there used to be a script included to do that, but it wasn't reliable so it was removed)
[19:46] <amitbk> LjL: so what controls the fan in laptops running ubuntu?
[19:46] <DasEi>  !patience | tuxtox
[19:46] <tuxtox> can
[19:46] <tuxtox> you
[19:46] <tuxtox> sorry
[19:46] <hmw> tuxtox: sometimes network manager wont work with certain chips. you can try removing network manager and installing wicd instead. Seems to help often.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:46] <mrwes> ActionJackson!
[19:46] <mrwes> heh
[19:46] <tuxtox> hmw what is weird is that I have 2 of the exact same computers, and the same install disk, and one worked and one did not.
[19:47] <mrwes> tuxtox, different cards maybe? you check lspci to see ?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> tuxtox: fsck the drive and check the ram is healthy
[19:47] <bonhoffer> i want to ssh to my server without typing a password -- via ssh keys
[19:47] <bonhoffer> any tutorial?
[19:48] <Daniel_G> bonhoffer: google has a billion tutorials on that
[19:48] <hmw> tuxtox: although it seems weird, it isn't. I bought 2 packages of usb wireless adaptors, and they werent the same hardware, which couldnt be told from the packaging or the description. They use, what is just available, for making their hardware. Even on the same series you can have different chips. Try looking, what you have with lsusb or lspci
[19:48] <mrwes> bonhoffer, via nautilus or terminal ?
[19:48] <epaphus> deany, how do I do that if I cannot enter the OS?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> bonhoffer: http://linuxproblem.org/art_9.html
[19:48] <tuxtox> actionparsnip it says running fsck could cause huge damage
[19:49] <bonhoffer> mrwes: terminal
[19:49] <ninom> hello everyone. i have this weird problem. i cant see in any window thats open close minimize buttons on top. not in my mozzila not in pidgin not in any program, minimize and close buttons are missing. anyone know how can i solve this?
[19:49] <spamjam> what's the default window manager for intrepid?
[19:49] <deany> epaphus, you made the thing from an os
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> tuxtox: depends on the options you use
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> tuxtox: if the drive isnt healthy it will need replacing
[19:49] <epaphus> deany, i dont understand you sorry.. iam going to boot from a rescue cd.. so i can run fdis
[19:50] <mrwes> ActionParsnip, just posted a link on that ^^^^
[19:50] <jamil_1> is there a media player in ubuntu that shows a bar for streaming (as in Windows media player or for flash player on youtube)    ?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> spamjam: metacity
[19:50] <deany> epaphus, ok
[19:51] <ninom> can anyone help. all close, minimize buttons on each program thats open are missing. i am running ubuntu 8.04
[19:51] <amitbk> LjL: any idea?
[19:51] <spamjam> ActionParsnip: thank you. i have compizconfig installed and the command under the window decoration menu says /usr/bin/compiz-decorator. how can i change this to be the default window manager for intrepid?
[19:51] <mrwes> !titlebar
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> ninom: are you running compiz?
[19:51] <tuxtox> i ran lspci on both boxes and they are the same
[19:51] <ninom> yes running compiz
[19:51] <McQueen> hi, i installed vista to my first partition... then i have got lilo problem... the vista running automaticly, how can i run ubuntu. i tried to boot from ubuntu installation cd. but i couldnt find rescue option... how can i start ubuntu?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> spamjam: metacity --replace
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ninom: its a compiz glitch, head into #compiz
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> ninom: use alt + drag to move windows
[19:52] <ninom> i ll just uninstall compiz
[19:52] <ninom> i dont need it
[19:52] <lyhana8> hi, how coul I rip a Blu-ray disc ?
[19:52] <spamjam> ActionParsnip: thank you
[19:52] <Snicks|TWw> McQueen, which OS is first installed? your ubuntu?
[19:52] <ninom> thanks
[19:52] <shane8002> anybody out there used a sprint sierra 598u aircard in ubuntu
[19:52] <deany> ninom, fusion-icon  easy way to switch between emerald and gtk for themes, and compiz on/off
[19:52] <Jeruvy> !ot | lyhana8
[19:53] <Sibert|TWw> Hello
[19:53] <tuxtox> ok I was wrong, the first box has an atheros, and the 2nd has a RaLink
[19:53] <Sibert|TWw> http://www.freshports.org/x11-clocks/gdesklets-countdown/ --> none of that commends work
[19:53] <McQueen> Snicks|TWw: first i have installed xp, then ubuntu.... then i delete xp and installed vista
[19:53] <Shadow121> Call me sir god dammit
[19:53] <Sibert|TWw> Snicks|TWw :D
[19:54] <rww> !grub | McQueen: first link
[19:54] <B4RR13N705> hi everyone!
[19:54] <epaphus> deany, i did fdisk -l now.. i see the information about my two hard disks... how should i poceed+
[19:55] <bromic94> how do i upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04
[19:55] <B4RR13N705> just a question
[19:55] <bromic94> ?
[19:55] <B4RR13N705> how do i put a folder in the gdesklet starterbar?
[19:55] <musikgoat|main> !jaunty | bromic94
[19:55] <Sibert|TWw> http://www.freshports.org/x11-clocks/gdesklets-countdown/ --> none of that commends work
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | bromic94
[19:56] <deany> does the external one have an *
[19:56] <deany> like, sdb1
[19:56] <B4RR13N705>  how do i put a folder in the gdesklet starterbar?
[19:56] <deany> * under "boot" i might add
[19:56] <cached> how can i find out if i have one or two sticks of ram in my laptop, and if just one, whether or not i have an additional port open?
[19:57] <shane8002> Alt+F2 and type in "update-manager -d"
[19:57] <musikgoat|main> sudo
[19:57] <Jeruvy> cached: I'm not positive about ram, but try 'sudo lshw'
[19:58] <nmanoogian> hello
[19:58] <musikgoat|main> oops wrong window
[19:58] <corinth> Is it possible to upgrade to the new GNOME release from Intrepid?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> corinth: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:58] <meteor> how well does songbird run on ubuntu?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> corinth: easier and better to  just stay with the version you get in Ubuntu
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> corinth: if its not installed you will need an extra repo adding, or compile source
[19:59] <cached> Jeruvy: thanks! that did it
[19:59] <corinth> ActionParsnip: What repo?
[19:59] <deany> meteor, would run better with an EQ...
[19:59] <sebsebseb> corinth: or you can get the 9.04 alpha6 for later stuff,  but  a few bugs
[19:59] <Jeruvy> cached: awesome!
[19:59] <Stevethe1irate>  Anyone got an idea for me to merge multiple SOCKS-over-ssh-proxies into a single one?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> corinth: not sure, you'll have to hunt around
[20:00] <glenrock> what does gnome use to do its font hinting?  can it be narrowed down to a single package or app?
[20:00] <Stevethe1irate> x
[20:00] <Stevethe1irate> Soz, DC'ed
[20:00] <Stevethe1irate>  Anyone got an idea for me to merge multiple SOCKS-over-ssh-proxies into a single one?
[20:01] <orangey> hey all!
[20:01] <orangey> I messed up my modules.. how do I reinstall them?
[20:01] <dayo> !hi | orangey
[20:01] <orangey> i.e., which package?
[20:01] <hmw> Stevethe1irate - afaik, you can only activate one port per ssh instance
[20:01] <orangey> I don't seen an obvious "modules" package.
[20:02] <dayo> which modules?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
[20:02] <orangey> dayo: usbhid
[20:02] <gordonjcp> oops, miswindonw
[20:02] <orangey> dayo: I was trying to compile in forcefeedback.
[20:02] <rww> !danger | gordonjcp
[20:02] <gordonjcp> yes yes
[20:03] <Jeruvy> Stevethe1irate: hmw is right, but I have heard of products that may do that.  Sorry I don't know off hand.
[20:03] <Stevethe1irate> hmw: Yeah. I have 10 sequential tunnels
[20:03] <Stevethe1irate> ports 10000 -> 10010
[20:03] <gordonjcp> nobody run that command, and also make sure you type it in the right terminal
[20:03] <dayo> orangey: never heard of it, sorry
[20:03] <rvaras> hi, is it possible to set the root management like the Debian way? I mean, having a password for the root user and a different one for a regular user?
[20:03] <Stevethe1irate> I want to make a common port [praps via squid or something] that uses all of the uplinks equally.
[20:03] <irbdavid> life in 1024x600 is not as simple as I'd have hoped :(
[20:03] <orangey> dayo: It's a bit beside the point.
[20:03] <orangey> I just want to reinstall the generic set of modules.
[20:03] <musikgoat|main> rvaras: short answer, no
[20:03] <andrews> Lately I have been noticing that when I right click on a file or folder it will open it without giving me the properties window has anyone else seen this or is this just me?
[20:03] <gordonjcp> rww: you're right of course, it should have bs=512 at the end
[20:03] <Stevethe1irate> So like load balancing over socks proxies.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> rvaras: you dont need root, nor should you
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> !root | rvaras
[20:04] <rvaras> I am the owner of the notebook ;)
[20:04] <Jeruvy> andrews: it could be due to the cursor position on the first item in the right-click menu, I do that also.
[20:04] <deany> rvaras, why
[20:04] <rww> rvaras: using a root account instead of sudo is not supported by this channel. If you want to figure out how to do it, you're on your own.
[20:04] <gordonjcp> rvaras: don't set a root password
[20:04] <rww> !noroot
[20:05] <Deevz> is there a way to make the sticky notes not hide when I click on my desktop?
[20:05] <rodolfo> hola a todos
[20:05] <rvaras> deany, I'm kind of coming back from suse
[20:05] <the93D> hi, Is there an ubuntu beta for 9.04 yet?
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> orangey: assuming you are using the latest intrepid kernel    sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> the93D: thursday its out
[20:05] <sebsebseb> the93D: no still on alpha6
[20:05] <ShinyHat> brings mrwes an ice cold beer
[20:06] <deany> rvaras, you shouldnt and dont need to set a pass for root
[20:06] <Jeruvy> Stevethe1irate: hmm that gave me a thought that maybe you could implement this via the router instead of the computer...especially if it supports session management.
[20:06] <tyg13> When I try to open a terminal in Ubuntu, all it displays is white, but I can still use it. I just can't see anything. How can I fix this?
[20:06] <MasterPa> hey, can anyone tell me how to make a user only see his own homedirectory instead of everything?
[20:06] <orangey> ActionParsnip: that includes restricted and non-restricted modules?
[20:06] <dayo> orangey: try this:  dpkg --configure -a
[20:06]  * gordonjcp listens to 320GB of zeros being written to disk
[20:06] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: you can't
[20:06] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: for a very simple and obvious reason
[20:06] <orangey> dayo: Doesn't that walk me through reconfiguring *everything*?
[20:06] <the93D> ActionParsnip, hmm.. I see. Thanks. The reason is I need a native install of ubuntu, but 8.10 doesnt work on my laptop because the nvidia card is too new and the kernel doesn't seem to support it.
[20:06] <MasterPa> I can't restrict him on is own homedir?
[20:06] <andrews> Jeruvy: Probably so, it does seem like it is selecting the what the cursor is over but I don't understand why it just started doing that for me.  It's like it got way more sensitive.
[20:06] <the93D> and I wanted something to work with, especially with GSoC coming up
[20:06] <rvaras> deany, so suse works a different way like having a separate password if you wish, and that way it worked fine for me.  Fedora and openSUSE let you do it, why you say I dont need it for ubuntu?
[20:07] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: what would happen if your user was restricted from /bin ?
[20:07] <deany> MasterPa, he is restricted to his home... priveledge wise
[20:07] <dayo> orangey: everything that's not configured or broken
[20:07] <MasterPa> but he can see more deany
[20:07] <deany> write priv that is
[20:07] <orangey> dayo: Nothing is broken.
[20:07] <hmw> rvaras: yes it is possible, but usually not needed. sudo -i gets you to root without activating the root account. It is possible, that a simple typo can destroy your system, so youre on your own, if you use it.
[20:07] <orangey> dayo: maybe a better question is: How do I find out which package a particular file is in?
[20:07] <deany> so what if he can see more.. he cant affect anything.
[20:07] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: if your user couldn't see /bin/ what would happen?
[20:07] <Jeruvy> andrews: most likely the mouse and timing, but for me it isn't worth troubleshooting.  Bigger fish to fry :)  If I use a mouse with a higher resolution I don't notice it as often.  Perhaps someone else has more ideas.
[20:08] <MasterPa> I don't know gordonjcp
[20:08] <deany> do you want to hide other home folders from him?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> orangey: yeah should be ok
[20:08] <MasterPa> yes deany
[20:08] <dayo> orangey: check the man pages for apt-get and aptitude
[20:08] <MasterPa> I would like to hide / from him, so he can only see his home :D
[20:08] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: well, what do you suppose would happen if you weren't allowed to read, say, /usr/bin and you wanted to run firefox?
[20:08] <rvaras> OK thanks
[20:09] <deany> hiding / from him serves no purpose, as he has no rights to make/remove files/folders from it...
[20:09] <MasterPa> gordonjcp, I wasn't clear. I've got a ubuntu server and I would like a user to have access to his own homedir so he can changes files in there
[20:09] <andrews> Jeruvy: I do have pretty old mouse
[20:09] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: you can do that
[20:09] <MasterPa> okey :D
[20:10] <gordonjcp> MasterPa: but the user must still be able to see other files in the filesystem, otherwise none of the programs will work
[20:10]  * MasterPa is a n00b on ubuntu server
[20:10] <orangey> Anybody know off-hand how to search for which package contains a particular file?
[20:10] <MasterPa> well, okey
[20:10] <MasterPa> I'll try
[20:10] <Sibert|TWw> http://www.freshports.org/x11-clocks/gdesklets-countdown/ --> none of that commends work
[20:10] <rww> orangey: second search box on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , or apt-file
[20:10] <xtknight> orangey, http://packages.ubuntu.com  has the feature.
[20:11] <orangey> thank you
[20:11] <scunizi> t
[20:12]  * scunizi isn't seeing any scrolling
[20:12] <louis> i have problems with my mysql ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[20:13] <MasterPa> well, thanks deany and gordonjcp for the help :w
[20:13] <martiiin> Any terminal command that brings me some information about my ubuntu install?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> martiiin: what do youu want to know?
[20:13] <martiiin> Version and such
[20:14] <rww> !version | Martinp23
[20:14] <rww> !version | martiiin
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> martiiin: lsb_release -a; uname -a
[20:15] <MrSunshine> im experiencing EXTREMLEY poor io performance in ubuntu, what can this be due to ? ..been poor in other distros alsob ut ubuntu takes the grand price
[20:15] <martiiin> Nice, also I would like to get some themes. Anyone know where? =)
[20:15] <MrSunshine> where even movies lag sometimes as soon as something happends on the disk (downloading something for example)
[20:15] <hmw> MrSunshine: my ubuntu 8.10 is about 10% slower (in terms of visible speed) than my fedora 10.
[20:15] <musikgoat|main> !themes | martiiin
[20:15] <Jeruvy> martiiin: gnome-look.org is one such place
[20:16] <Jeruvy> MrSunshine: are you using ext2 or ext3 or something else?  just curious, I've noticed similar.
[20:17] <MrSunshine> jeremy_c, reiserfs
[20:17] <MrSunshine> jeremy_c,
[20:17] <MrSunshine> Jeruvy,
[20:17] <MrSunshine> :)
[20:17] <servo888> So I want to uninstall gnome, I'm thinking about running apt-get remove gnome*, from the looks of it, that's the right thing to do. It should get rid of packages I don't want... Any suggestions on the proper way to remove the majority of gnome files?
[20:17] <FloodBot3> MrSunshine: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <MrSunshine> been using that efore also, its the last like year performance of linux has become worse and worse
[20:17] <orangey> alright.. interesting follow-up question. I simply want to change one small thing in the .config to add ONE module. I don't want to have to recompile everything. Is that possible? or a pipe-dream?
[20:17] <kyncani> servo888: I lie debfoster
[20:17] <SkyNetMaster> hi, I have added new syntax highlighting to gedit, but I can't se the files in file browser, any ideas how to fix it
[20:18] <kyncani> s/lie/like/
[20:18] <NoNick420> hi all
[20:18] <NoNick420> i'm having trouble making my webcam work with flash
[20:18] <NoNick420> like youtube
[20:18] <deany> MrSunshine, try a different ioscheduler
[20:19] <MrSunshine> deany, how?
[20:19] <deany> google is your friend.
[20:19] <yunus> hello
[20:19] <kyncani> servo888: just remembered, there is also gtkorphan (a gui) than can do it
[20:19] <deany> its probably set to cfq by default, try deadline
[20:20] <yunus> Anyone knows how to get a full listing on all users and passwords
[20:20] <kyncani> yunus: you can't, passwords are encrpyted
[20:20] <deany> MrSunshine,  http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/09/04/four-tweaks-for-using-linux-with-solid-state-drives/   saves me typin.. scroll down
[20:21] <Ocol> Hey can anybody say what this means, when I write command sensors in (lm sensors installed) it gives me this: Adapter: Virtual device
[20:21] <Ocol> temp1:       +91.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
[20:21] <ehempel> yunus: cat /etc/passwd will give you the users
[20:21] <guntbert> yunus: users are in /etc/passwd, but you cannot read their passwords (as kyncani already said)
[20:21] <Ocol> What the heck is virtual device? o.O And it's temp
[20:21] <yunus> ok
[20:21] <yunus> not good
[20:22] <yunus> so I can only allocate new passwords
[20:22] <yunus> passwd x
[20:22] <yunus> like that
[20:22] <HappySmileMan> Hey how would I go about installing the translations for Firefox to Irish, there's no package "firefox-locale-ga-IE" like there used to be, and I can't find a link to the language pack, but I CAN download and install FF manually in irish
[20:22] <guntbert> !enter | yunus
[20:22] <guntbert> yunus: what is your problem?
[20:22] <Aizawa> Might be a really stupid question, but how do I move the little panel widgets?
[20:23] <jerrysun> hello,there
[20:23] <kyncani> yunus: yep, or (depending on what you're doing), you can keep them the same by keeping the same encrpyted form
[20:23] <Aizawa> For some reason they all moved when I logged on, and I can't figure out how to move them back
[20:23] <Ocol> Anyone has any idea what's virtual device and it's temp1?
[20:23] <guntbert> Aizawa: right click on them, ....
[20:23] <yunus> ok great
[20:23] <MrSunshine> deany, still performing as bad with any of the schedulers
[20:23] <yunus> What about copying mail from one user to another
[20:23] <Aizawa> guntbert: Didn't help. I've unlocked them, yes, but if I just click and drag I just start them
[20:23] <MrSunshine> takes agest o extract files that i did in seconds before
[20:24] <jerrysun> how to creat a loop* file? Anybody can help me ?
[20:24] <guntbert> Aizawa: right click gives a menu, there you find "move"
[20:24] <The_Drizzle> Hello all. I'm having trouble compiling the native drivers for my ralink wireless card. Would anyone be willing to look at the compiler error I'm getting and point me in the right direction finding a solution?
[20:25] <Aizawa> guntbert: Damn. I'm an idiot, thanks.
[20:25] <guntbert> Aizawa: no you are *not*, welcome to the club :))
[20:26] <yunus> What about copying mail from one user to another, how do I do this - and both users must download same
[20:26] <deany> hmm, MrSunshine well i dunno then... I have found using JFS is a lot faster, but i only use it for external drive
[20:26] <guntbert> yunus: maybe you begin again, by telling us your real problem?
[20:27] <fload> whats the command to find out what kernel im using?
[20:27] <ryant> can any1 help me with a lightweight dock?
[20:27] <gkey> @fload uname -r
[20:27] <tzd> hi, i've got a problem with my pxe booting ubuntu server (8.04). When the client is about to download the files on the iso it gets a 404 error. I've checked the path and for some reason it's referring to "hardy" instead of the iso's "intrepid" version. Can someone please help me out where ii change this?
[20:27] <fload> thanks
[20:27] <connorpj> Hi everyone
[20:27] <deany> MrSunshine, i guess you could use it for /home ok ..
[20:27] <ryant> tzd i have a solution upgrade to .10
[20:27] <connorpj> does anyone have suggestions of a VPN server to run on my Ubuntu Server?
[20:27] <tzd> ryant: you mean upgrade the whole server?
[20:27] <dr3w_> is it possbile to use 4gen ipod nano with ubuntu
[20:27] <ryant> yeah
[20:28] <ryant> try that
[20:28] <erUSUL> jerrysun: a /dev/loop* ?? file ?
[20:28] <tzd> hmm adn that won't mess up my setups?
[20:28] <MrSunshine> deany, but the problem is that loading programs or whatever shoots my iowait to like 70%+ and lagging down EVERYTHING
[20:28] <soner> selmn
[20:28] <jerrysun> yeah
[20:28] <The_Drizzle> Hello all. I'm having trouble compiling the native drivers for my ralink wireless card. Would anyone be willing to look at the compiler error I'm getting?
[20:28] <ryant> tzd: im not sure
[20:28] <MrSunshine> that includes when i browse the web, iowaits shoots up when i change page etc
[20:28] <yunus> You really want to know - Guntbert
[20:28] <deany> dma enabled?
[20:28] <ryant> tzd: but i know it will work
[20:28] <jerrysun> there is no loop* file in /dev
[20:28] <yunus> My tech left our company - and I am trying to figure out everything
[20:29] <mistic> ciao
[20:29] <yunus> the boss wants to send mail to two technicians at the same time
[20:29] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: just pastebin it and re-ask with a link.  You never know :)
[20:29] <deany> MrSunshine, i dont experience any lag so i dont know really..
[20:29] <jerrysun> erUSUL: there is no loop* file in /dev
[20:29] <connorpj> Hi everyone! does anyone have suggestions of a VPN server to run on my Ubuntu Server?
[20:29] <tzd> ryant: oh ok, then I'll give it a try
[20:29] <erUSUL> jerrysun: man loosetup ? but the devices should be creted automatically when you mount an image file over loop
[20:30] <The_Drizzle> Jeruvy, Thanks, I will
[20:30] <erUSUL> jerrysun: you do not have to create them upfront in most cases
[20:30] <guntbert> yunus: for mail to two people at once: put both addresses into the to: field of the mail
[20:30] <kyncani> yunus: well, then he just has to mention both of them in the "To" field, hasn't he ?
[20:30] <martiiin> Is it possible to change colour at the name of the application running in the bottom pannel?
[20:31] <yunus> yes this I know - but my boss does not want that, he forwards all mail to me and ubuntu forwards to the other tech
[20:31] <yunus> his being difficult
[20:31] <Jeruvy> yunus: use Bcc: then.
[20:31] <The_Drizzle> Hello all. I'm having trouble compiling the native drivers for my ralink wireless card. Would anyone be willing to look at the compiler error I'm getting? http://pastebin.com/m10de9f76
[20:32] <guntbert> yunus: who manages the mail server?
[20:32] <jerrysun> erUSUL: but when i typed "sudo mount -o loop /mnt /file.iso /media" ,it shows that there is no loop files
[20:32] <yunus> no one - the guy left
[20:32] <yunus> It is now me for I don't know how long
[20:32] <erUSUL> jerrysun: o.0! can you show me the exact error ?
[20:33] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: did you ./configure this first?
[20:33] <martiiin> I cant see my desktop icons, what have I done? :O
[20:33] <jerrysun> erUSUL: ok, wait a minute
[20:33] <guntbert> yunus: I'm sorry but we cannot teach you to manage a mail server *here*, your other problem was: find the information in the directory of the tech who left the company?
[20:34] <yunus> Thank you
[20:34] <yunus> ok
[20:34] <jerrysun> erUSUL: mount: could not find any device /dev/loop#
[20:34] <yunus> bye
[20:34] <The_Drizzle> Jeruvy, The instructions that came with the package did not include that step
[20:34] <erUSUL> jerrysun: « lsmod | grep loop » returns anything ?
[20:35] <guntbert> yunus: wait, the other part *could* be solved, I think
[20:35] <MrSunshine> can i get rid of pulse audio somehow?
[20:35] <MrSunshine> hell that app is sucking 10 - 20% cpu
[20:35] <martiiin> how do I restart nautilus ?
[20:35] <jerrysun> erUSUL: nothing returned
[20:36] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: try that first, then 'make' again, then 'sudo make install'  you should check the package for any specific docs for the various options for the ./configure
[20:36] <Kriss3d> how do i change the keyboard as soon as i log in ? it doesnt change to the right language untill im in kde..
[20:36] <erUSUL> jerrysun: weird do « sudo modprobe loop »
[20:36] <The_Drizzle> Jeruvy, the package doesn't come with a configure utility. There are specific instructions for editing the Makefile by hand, which I did
[20:37] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: ok.  then you need to verify all the paths in the makefile manually :(
[20:37] <jerrysun> erUSUL: no result
[20:37] <joey__> I am installed ubuntu onto an eee pc and i am working through this how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963259&highlight=asus+1000h but something is amiss
[20:37] <erUSUL> jerrysun: try again to mount the iso file
[20:38] <The_Drizzle> Jeruvy, Holy cancel my hot date tonight! Is there no way to tell what is causing the error by looking at the compiler output?
[20:38] <joey__> I am instructed to download http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/...01_1000.tar.gz but it is nowhere to be found, do any of yooou know where it i can find it?
[20:38] <jerrysun> erUSUL: it works!
[20:39] <joey__> http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~elmurato/EeePC/Intrepid_ACPI_scripts-EeePC_900A_901_1000.tar.gz
[20:39] <Suhail> How can I find out what programs are using up the most RAM?
[20:39] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: it can't find the shared objects in the makefile.  Hence why I asked if you ./configured it first.  And ya better order pizza :)
[20:39] <erUSUL> jerrysun: it is very weird that the loop module is not loaded at boot in you installation. it should
[20:39] <CokeNCode> guys, i have a major problem
[20:39] <CokeNCode> i bought a micro sd card, and put it into my blackberry pearl, and it worked fine.  The minute i put it into my ubuntu system, all hell broke lose
[20:39] <jerrysun> erUSUL:hehe
[20:39] <erUSUL> jerrysun: anyway do this « echo loop | sudo tee -a /etc/modules »
[20:39] <CokeNCode> is there a way to format this card back to factory settings ?
[20:39] <CokeNCode> i.e. unformated ?
[20:39] <CokeNCode> or at very least, to fat16
[20:39] <jerrysun> erUSUL: thank u so much!
[20:40] <erUSUL> jerrysun: no problem
[20:40] <Suhail> How can I find out what programs are using up the most RAM?
[20:40] <zleap> top
[20:40] <zleap> i guess
[20:40] <Suhail> no
[20:40] <[MindVirus]> Can I install something as a dependency?
[20:40] <Suhail> I need it sorted.
[20:40] <scunizi> CokeNCode: you want to format a card to an unformatted state?  use gparted and just delete the partition
[20:40] <CokeNCode> Suhail, what's wrong with top  ?
[20:40] <guntbert> Suhail: use htop
[20:40] <zleap> k
[20:40] <erUSUL> Suhail: use top or htop an order the programs by memory use. hitting capital M iirc
[20:40] <DasEi> Suhail:conky, top, htop
[20:41] <The_Drizzle> Jeruvy, Arg. Okay, back to the drawing board. Thanks for your input
[20:41] <[MindVirus]> Nevermind. Can someone suggest me a program that depends on libpng3?
[20:41] <Suhail> guntbert: htop looks pretty
[20:41] <guntbert> Suhail: yes :-)
[20:41] <scunizi> [MindVirus]: what are you trying to get working with libpng3?
[20:41] <MrSunshine> i removed pulse audio, audio works fine when i do test in sound preferences but no sound in movies anymore ?
[20:41] <[MindVirus]> scunizi, StepMania.
[20:41] <Jeruvy> The_Drizzle: np, good luck.
[20:42] <[MindVirus]> I could just install the package but I don't want to keep if it I don't need it.
[20:42] <[MindVirus]> *it if
[20:42] <[MindVirus]> And I'd forget to remove it.
[20:42] <DasEi>  !alsa|MrSunshine
[20:42] <CokeNCode> scunizi, is gparted a default package?
[20:43] <erUSUL> CokeNCode: no; you have to install it after system installation
[20:43] <DasEi> MrSunshine: sudo apt-get install alsamixergui ,            run it , check pcm-slider
[20:43] <joey__> I can't find http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~elmurato/EeePC/Intrepid_ACPI_scripts-EeePC_900A_901_1000.tar.gz have any of you seen it anywhere?
[20:43] <scunizi> [MindVirus]: http://www.stepmania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7608
[20:43] <deany> it just me that Master channel doesnt do anything for (audio)
[20:44] <scunizi> CokeNCode: yep
[20:44] <deany> only pcm works..
[20:44] <scunizi> CokeNCode: if not installed then sudo apt-get install gparted and it will show up in System>Admin>Partition Manager
[20:44] <[MindVirus]> scunizi, .... OK.... StepMania isn't in the repos.
[20:45] <[MindVirus]> Plus I don't want 3.9.
[20:45] <[MindVirus]> I want 4.0.
[20:45] <MrSunshine> DasEi, but it works in the sound tests :) and none of the sliders are muted nor 0
[20:45] <[MindVirus]> And there are no .debs for 4.0.
[20:45] <scunizi> [MindVirus]: nope.. looks like there's some type of conflict with licensing
[20:46] <[MindVirus]> scunizi, please answer my question. What programs depend on libpng3?
[20:46] <CokeNCode> ok, just installed jparted scunizi. How do i use it to delete the partition a mounted micro sd card ?
[20:46] <CokeNCode> ok, i've got it open. How do i delete the partition
[20:46] <CokeNCode> it won't let me do anything
[20:46] <MrSunshine> wtf, works in totem, but not smplayer :)
[20:46] <DasEi> MrSunshine: which media you wanto play ?
[20:47] <DasEi> MrSunshine: sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:47] <MrSunshine> DasEi, i dont like vlc ... never got the arrow buttons etc to work :/
[20:47] <scunizi> [MindVirus]: doing an apt-cache search for libpng3 returns libpng12-dev  .. not sure if that's what you need or not.
[20:47] <DasEi>  !codesc |MrSunshine
[20:47] <urthmover> What is the name of the commandline application that cleanly puts source compiled applications into a linux system?
[20:47] <scunizi> CokeNCode: you have to unmount the card.. Gparted can do that for you..
[20:48] <locovicen> español
[20:48] <DasEi>  !codecs |MrSunshine
[20:48] <tq|Memphis> code: http://rafb.net/p/Yup82i73.html  output : http://rafb.net/p/cbrRmi91.html  question : at line 10-11 two times prints parent why is that,  it is OS question i thin
[20:48] <Abracadabr4> hi again
[20:48] <MrSunshine> DasEi, but worked with pulseaudio installed but i think its stupid to have a system in the OS that requires 10 - 20% cpu power just to play audio
[20:48] <Jeruvy> !build | urthmover
[20:49] <MrSunshine> so removed it, now i have no sound in mplayer but in totem it works
[20:49] <Abracadabr4> how do you install drivers on Ubuntu ? :(
[20:49] <scunizi> Abracadabr4: most are already there.. what do you have that's not working?
[20:49] <DasEi> MrSunshine: if the app itself plays the file, try reinstalling it
[20:49] <Abracadabr4> an Alfa usb wireless adapter
[20:49] <mleger> hi any wireless people availabe to help me troubleshoot?
[20:49] <unko> hey guys i have a problem / question.... ok i have a external ntfs and it dons't seem to have a trash can? like other partitions aka fat32's trach is .trash or somthing like that
[20:50] <scunizi> !wireless | Abracadabr4
[20:50] <Abracadabr4> scunizi: cool, I'll have a look, ta
[20:50] <mleger> my wireless is very sporadic and only works on certain boots and I have to keep restarting to get it to work, any help will be appreciated!!
[20:51] <mleger> it is currently not working and I am on a wired connection, this is a good opportunity to troubleshoot but I am a noob and dont know too much about linux
[20:51] <ajhais> ubuntu had applied and was accepted for GSoC.. but they chose not to participate... what might be the reason?
[20:51] <gordonjcp> this disk is *still* zeroing ;-)
[20:51]  * scunizi believes this is the lull before teh storm of a new release..
[20:52] <MrSunshine> DasEi, removed smplayer.ini and restarted smplayer :)
[20:52] <MrSunshine> works fine :)
[20:52] <MrSunshine> and alot more cpu cycles over for me :)
[20:52] <XeroXenith> hey guys, i need some help setting up my wireless network printer on ubuntu?
[20:53] <Jeruvy> !chat | ajhais
[20:53] <mleger> ok I see no one is available I guess I'll try later
[20:53] <DasEi> nice, MrSunshine
[20:53] <MrSunshine> cpu even running at 800MHz inste dof 1800 with pulse audio
[20:53] <Jeruvy> ajhais: oops wrong factoid..
[20:53] <XeroXenith> it's a canon mp600r, but there's no official drivers for it. any help?
[20:53] <finiras> i downloaded flash using synaptic but most of the flash stuff on websites is just showing up as a grey square... any ideas
[20:53] <scunizi> XeroXenith: look on one of canon's sites in europe, not the US
[20:54] <XeroXenith> scunizi: thanks, but i've checked those already :/ there don't seem to be any official linux drivers for it at all
[20:55] <scunizi> XeroXenith: possible.. they do have them for other printers though..
[20:55] <guntbert> finiras: you need flashplugin-nonfree
[20:55] <XeroXenith> scunizi: could you direct me to which one would work best with the mp600r?
[20:56] <urthmover> What is the name of the CLI application that you can add source built applications into a linux system easily?
[20:56] <finiras> guntbert thats what i have
[20:56] <mleger> guys hey I would really appreciate any help to get my wireless working its driving me crazy!
[20:56] <user___> urthmover: aptitude?
[20:57] <locovicen> Why having a DVD without recording on my pc not the gksudo nautilus? me in all my pc
[20:57] <scunizi> XeroXenith: sorry no.. I don't have the foggiest idea but this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-604748.html
[20:57] <ajhais> !cry
[20:57] <locovicen> is a bug of ubuntu 8.04?
[20:57] <urthmover> no it is a command line application that you run and it will automatically create folders and symlinks for source built applications
[20:57] <guntbert> finiras: ok, and ubuntu-restricted -extras too?
[20:57] <ajhais> !bot
[20:57] <ajhais> !factoid
[20:58] <guntbert> !botabuse | ajhais
[20:58] <locovicen> Why having a DVD without recording on my pc not the gksudo nautilus? me in all my pc
[20:58] <XeroXenith> scunizi: thanks for the help, but i've tried that as well... seems canon really don't like us =P
[20:59] <austin_> hey, everyone* i need some help...my conputer is running unbuntu 8.10, on my lap top toshiba tecra 8200; however is dosnt fill my WHOLE screen is there any way possible to make it so it does, please PM me.
[20:59] <scunizi> XeroXenith: true.. I have 2 samsung printers, both laser, one color and networked.. they work well.  and I just bought a Brother MFP7440n multifunction that I found drivers for.. don't have it yet so I can't report as to its viability.
[21:00] <ubd>  hello - i am getting "ACPI: EC: non-query interrupt received, switching to interrupt mode" constantly. this is a toshiba laptop with debian base. google says ubuntu sometimes have this problem  also, if someone knows how to solve this pls help
[21:00] <finiras> guntbert: downloaded the extras thing, same story
[21:00] <ehempel> I've been looking for an audio program/library on ubuntu that can convert a single voice (or whistle, hum) into notes (preferably MIDI, but tracker or just plain text could be ok too) ... any ideas?
[21:01] <XeroXenith> scunizi: i'd be interested to know how well those would work w/ ubuntu if connected to a network, it seems most non-network canon printers are supported just fine
[21:01] <guntbert> finiras: sorry then, no further ideas :-(
[21:01] <Jeruvy> !bug 284263 | urd
[21:01] <LeL> hello, can i have the link to paste stuff into the chat please?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[21:02] <mleger> hi is there maybe a chatroom channel that specializes in wireless support?
[21:02] <LeL> !pastebin
[21:02] <LeL> ah thanks
[21:02] <sebsebseb> no problem
[21:02] <scunizi> XeroXenith: the color samsung is networked.. CLP600n.. and works fine.. samsung does have its own cups drivers.  From the reports that I've read, the Brother works great networked as well.
[21:02] <Stinky> !pastebin
[21:03] <mleger> could someone at least acknowledge my questions? what happened to the "great ubuntu community support"??
[21:03] <LeL> i need bash scripting help, is this the right place?
[21:03] <XeroXenith> scunizi: really? that's great, i didnt think other manufacturers would. it seems it's just canon out in the cold =P ah well, i'll survive ^.^
[21:03] <scunizi> mleger: you're acknowledged.. nobody knows the answer
[21:04] <guntbert> !wireless | mleger: did you follow what is said in
[21:04] <scunizi> XeroXenith: Canon, Lexmark and many others.
[21:04] <rain> hi, does anyone know how I can create my own ubuntu like OS? as you know there are are many different ubuntus (ubuntu;xbuntu;kubuntu;edubuntu and so on) but where  should I start if I wanna try make my ownbuntu?
[21:04] <Jeruvy> urd: ok I can't get the bot to pull it, but here is the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284263
[21:04] <XeroXenith> scunizi: ah, ok. well, i guess with time these guys should pick up the pace... it's just a question of "when" =]
[21:05] <joey__> #easypeasy
[21:05] <mleger> gunibert: hey I did follow and got my wireless set up but for some reason it only works when I boot ubuntu while plugged in to the AC power, and refuses to run while on battery
[21:05] <LeL> i'm trying to create a script that checks if a user is online on the system and keeps checking every 5 seconds even if the user is offline i want it to keep checking every 5 secs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/135080/  , can anyone tell me what im doing wrong? thanks
[21:05] <melik> rain, you want to make an "iso"?
[21:05] <rain> yes
[21:06] <melik> hmm im not really sure about that; but
[21:06] <rain> melik, I wanna create desktop iso like ubuntu have
[21:06] <melik> once you start adding/deleting/configuring packages, then it technically does become your own ubuntu
[21:07] <gordonjcp> LeL: what's it doing, or not doing?
[21:07] <guntbert> !ot | rain
[21:07] <rain> melik, U mean I should just delete unwanted packages from iso? what program I can use for that?
[21:07] <nessi> ciaoi a tuut
[21:07] <LeL> something is wrong with the $user
[21:07] <gordonjcp> LeL: maybe we should take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:07] <LeL> and even if the user is online it keeps saying it's offline
[21:07] <melik> well rain
[21:08] <MrSunshine> rain, xubuntu, kubuntu etc isnt that just that it comes with the kde/xfce etc packages?
[21:08] <LeL> ok mate, i'm coming there
[21:08] <ajhais> !chat |ubottu
[21:08] <MrSunshine> not that its configured in any particular special way
[21:08] <melik> imo, its not a really good program.. but you can use reconstructor
[21:08] <adac> html
[21:08] <melik> im not quite fond of it though
[21:08] <austin_> hey, everyone* i need some help...my conputer is running unbuntu 8.10, on my lap top toshiba tecra 8200; however is dosnt fill my WHOLE screen is there any way possible to make it so it does, please PM me.
[21:09] <mleger> is there any way to ensure wireless is enabled even while running on laptop battery power? it seems to only turn on while plugged in to power cord
[21:09] <guntbert> !pm | austin_
[21:09] <rain> MrSunshine maybe I will look what I can dot with that information,
[21:10] <sentimentalee> hola
[21:10] <guntbert> mleger: not sure, do you use the network-manager applett?
[21:11] <Winol_> Hey guys ! I d liketo install a Triple boot on my Laptop . is it possible to install ubuntu on a Extended Partition ? If yes how much space do i have to "give" to / and /home please ? :) Thanks for the help if you can :)