[10:09] <the-erm> how long has it been since you rebooted Q-collective
[10:10] <Q-collective> Uptime: 2 hours and 57 minutes
[10:10] <Q-collective> about that
[10:10] <the-erm> Kubuntu does some weird stuff when it comes to sound.  I edited /etc/modules.d/alsa-utils recently and had to reboot because /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart didn't load modules ....
[10:10] <Q-collective> weird
[10:11] <the-erm> I was trying to enable the IR sensor on my audigy.  Which required editing of that file.
[10:11] <the-erm> Took me 2 days to find that 1 line.
[10:12] <the-erm> At any rate ... I'd try rebooting, and see if that fixes the problem.  I know it's a "windows" solution, but it does seem to help in some cases.
[10:12] <the-erm> It bothers me ... I'm giving this advice.
[10:12] <Q-collective> nah, doesn't
[10:12] <the-erm> I thought the same thing ... until I did it, and it actually worked.
[10:12] <WaltzingAlong> would doubt that would help
[10:13] <WaltzingAlong> and if it did we still would not know the cause or remedy
[10:13] <Q-collective> that too
[10:13] <the-erm> restarting alsa-utils doesn't load modules.
[10:13] <the-erm> Or set the options.
[10:13] <the-erm> That's the problem.
[10:13] <Q-collective> well, I didn't edit that, in this session
[10:14] <the-erm> did you try restarting alsa?
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> anything of interest in dmesg ?
[10:14] <Q-collective> why would I try to restart alsa if I didn't touch it?
[10:14] <jpa_> hi everybofy
[10:14] <jpa_> d
[10:15] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: good idea
[10:15] <the-erm> Because you have a hung sound.
[10:15] <WaltzingAlong> could also reconfigure kde's sound system; from autodetect to alsa or to oss
[10:15] <the-erm> There's an idea ...
[10:16] <the-erm> I though about that, just forgot to type it.
[10:16] <konaya> ...hm, does this channel use any kind of queuing system, or is it okay to just type ones problem?
[10:16] <WaltzingAlong> so far just type your question
[10:16] <konaya> okay
[10:16] <konaya> I can't get my memory card reader to work.
[10:16] <the-erm> konaya: I believe that qualifies as asking to ask.
[10:16] <konaya> ALMOST
[10:16] <WaltzingAlong> an hmm based bot may be underway
[10:17] <WaltzingAlong> anyway
[10:17] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: already have it on alsa
[10:17] <the-erm> What does ls /dev/sd* show?
[10:17] <jpa_> i have problems when i run dolphin as root with the sudo command. even when i just copy or delete something for e.g in /usr then it always changes some permissions in my home folder. is there a way to solve this problem?
[10:17] <konaya> See, when you boot kubuntu with a memory card already inserted, it works fine.
[10:17] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: could switch it to autodetect or disable the kde sound system
[10:17] <WaltzingAlong> jpa_: do not run dolphin with sudo. use either kdesu or kdesudo
[10:17] <the-erm> jpa_: I'm a command line junkie ... sorry.
[10:18] <jpa_> what is the differnce @  WaltzingAlong ?
[10:18] <WaltzingAlong> !kdesu | jpa_
[10:18] <ubotu> jpa_: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do NOT use "sudo"; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[10:18] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: nothing either :(
[10:18] <jpa_> thanks @ the-erm
[10:18] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: what does aplay -l show you?
[10:19] <jpa_> ok thanks @ WaltzingAlong and ubotu
[10:19] <konaya> Upon inserting a card, dmesg shows nothing. The reader has support in kubuntu, because it works when booting with a cad inserted.
[10:19] <konaya> *card
[10:19] <jpa_> i used gnome before and i always used to run sudo so i have to change my behavior :)
[10:20] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: http://pastebin.com/m528764d1
[10:20] <WaltzingAlong> jpa_: even with gnome you should have been using gksu <guiapp>
[10:20] <konaya> ...anyone? :/
[10:20] <WaltzingAlong> konaya: check lsusb once it is inserted or lspci
[10:20] <konaya> 07:09.1 Generic system peripheral [0805]: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 19)
[10:21] <jpa_> just one thing, there is a option in dolphin for folders "run as root", it seems to get the same permission problems when using this button
[10:21] <konaya> WaltzingAlong, that's what it says
[10:21] <Jucato> jpa_: it's a known bug
[10:21] <ScorpKing> what is the freenode server here? irc.freenode.net?
[10:21] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: i know i have had to edit the modprobe alsa options for another computer with hda intel. check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[10:21] <the-erm> konaya: I don't want to send you on a wild goose chase.  If I had that problem I'd start by looking at the kde services.  Not the "system services" but the stuff kde runs.  either that or I'd learn to type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/card/
[10:22] <Jucato> ScorpKing: yes
[10:22] <ScorpKing> ty
[10:22] <Jucato> jpa_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdesudo/+bug/155032
[10:22] <jpa_> so does it use sude instead of kdesudo in dolphin automatically when i push that "run as root" button @ Jucato ?
[10:22] <konaya> the-erm, ...I know how to mount manually. But I can't even do that. And it's not a USB reader, it's an internal one.
[10:22] <Jucato> jpa_: kdesudo is a graphical front to sudo
[10:22] <jpa_> okay thanks i will read that post first @ Jucato
[10:22] <Jucato> jpa_: so wherever kdesudo is used, sudo is used
[10:23] <wiki> hi all, any idea when the toolchain will be stabilized?
[10:23] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: ok, I'll try that, thanks
[10:23] <Jucato> wiki: what toolchain?
[10:23] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: if you want to skip updating the modules, then check manually specifying the module parameters. i had to do that to get hda intel working
[10:23] <the-erm> konaya: oh my bad ... then I think it would be in the /dev/hd* list.
[10:24] <the-erm> konaya: wait ... no still in /dev/sd
[10:24] <konaya> the-erm, when mounted, mount says it's /dev/mmcblk0p1. But I guess block devices are handled dynamically by udev or something...
[10:24] <the-erm> I have an "internal" card reader.  Right on the front of my computer.  It's always been /dev/sd*.
[10:25] <konaya> the-erm, I'll try that. But it's still strange kde can't find it... :)
[10:25] <the-erm> Sometimes you luck out and get it in knoquerors media list.
[10:25] <JohnFlux> Riddell: ping
[10:26] <konaya> the-erm, No other block devices than sda* exist. And that's my SATA drive.
[10:27] <kukman> Who use the licq? It don't play any sound:(
[10:28] <the-erm> I'm kinda tired ... konaya what are we trying to connect again ?
[10:28] <konaya> the-erm, a memory card reader.
[10:28] <the-erm> Ok is it a usb one?
[10:28] <the-erm> Or one that's right there in the front of the computer?
[10:28] <konaya> the-erm, It's an internal one. No idea how it's actually connected inside.
[10:29] <konaya> the-erm, but it shows up on lspci
[10:29] <the-erm> ok try this ... open konqueror with media:/ for the url.  Plug in your card.
[10:29] <konaya> the-erm, Nothing happens.
[10:29] <jpatrick> JohnFlux: can I help you?
[10:30] <konaya> the-erm, If it would, I wouldn't have a problem, eh? :)
[10:30] <the-erm> Sure.
[10:30] <JohnFlux> jpatrick: just wondering if I'm invited to UDS this year :)
[10:30] <jpatrick> JohnFlux: ha, me neither
[10:30] <the-erm> konaya: when in doubt I tail -f /var/log/syslog
[10:31] <the-erm> in fact I have that running all the time.
[10:31] <the-erm> unfortunatly .. I'm lost.
[10:31] <the-erm> Sorry
[10:31] <konaya> the-erm, Absolutely no output is generated upon inserting/removing the card.
[10:33] <konaya> the-erm, oh.  Or finish the one I'm currently building.
[10:34] <jpatrick> JohnFlux: don't worry, there's always next time
[10:34] <JohnFlux> heh tue
[10:34] <JohnFlux> true
[10:34] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: btw i found the alsa conf txt file at /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz          and  give a search for snd-hda-intel
[10:34] <zhaoqijie> how do you do
[10:34] <konaya> I discovered that the card reader module and the usb client chip still works in my old smashed-up digital camera :)
[10:35] <konaya> Oh, one more question btw, a more generic one.
[10:35] <konaya> 7.10. Is it worth it?
[10:36] <the-erm> It doesn't make sense that you have it in during boot, and it's present, but when you insert it, it doesn't show up.
[10:36] <konaya> the-erm, I'm aware of that x)
[10:36] <JohnFlux> konaya: depends if you want to try cutting edge stuff :)
[10:36] <JohnFlux> konaya: there's some bugs, but also some nice features :)
[10:37] <konaya> JohnFlux, I ran the x64 version on my home comp before. I'm used to annoying bugs :)
[10:37] <JohnFlux> konaya: then give it a try :)
[10:37] <the-erm> konaya: Have you tried looking in  kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Service Manger?
[10:38] <WaltzingAlong> 7.10? could wait for next lts at 8.04
[10:38] <JohnFlux> konaya: the next ubuntu release will contain a lot of bug fixes  (it's a long term support)
[10:38]  * JohnFlux nods at WaltzingAlong
[10:38] <konaya> JohnFlux, The only thing that keeps me is the fact that I use this laptop for school work, and I'm kinda dependant on it...
[10:38] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: that's what I'm doing :)
[10:38] <konaya> the-erm, I'll try
[10:38] <jpa_> @ Jucato Are you still online?
[10:38] <JohnFlux> konaya: yeah.  maybe wait for the 8.04 then?
[10:38] <Jucato> jpa_: yes
[10:38] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: i moved mine to 7.10 but all the others i administer will sit at 7.04 until LTS 8.04
[10:39] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: yeah, I'm doing the same thing
[10:39] <konaya> JohnFlux, lol ^^
[10:39] <konaya> JohnFlux, I said I'm kinda dependant, not a total chicken :)
[10:39] <the-erm> konaya: I think you need to have KDED Media Manger running
[10:39] <jpa_> okay :) i read the whole post and it seems that there is some kind of fix but i am not sure which file of the posted ones work.
[10:39] <Q-collective> bbl
[10:40] <konaya> the-erm, It wasn't running. Starting it now...
[10:40] <jpa_> or is the fix already in the repos ? @ Jucato
[10:41] <Jucato> jpa_: the fix should be in the main update servers soon.
[10:41] <jpa_> okay :) so i just have to wait and then i will see it in the update program right? @ Jucato  ?
[10:41] <Jucato> yep
[10:42] <konaya> the-erm, I started it. But still no sign of activity in syslog, and nothing happens.
[10:43] <jpa_> okay thank you @ Jucato
[10:44] <konaya> Hm, this is kinda depressing...
[10:44] <the-erm> ... I just don't know enough about this to be of any more use.  Check out your /etc/fstab I guess :)
[10:44] <konaya> :) Iäll do that
[10:44] <konaya> *I'll
[10:45] <the-erm> I know nothing past this.
[10:45] <konaya> the-erm, okay :) know of anyone that might?
[10:46] <the-erm> I just checked my /etc/fstab and I don't see anything.
[10:46] <the-erm> Has it ever worked?
[10:47] <konaya> the-erm, When I start the computer with a card inserted, it works, as previously stated. So it's kinde wierd :/
[10:47] <konaya> *kinda
[10:47] <the-erm> So it's never worked when inserting?
[10:47] <acemo> i just installed git by sudo apt-get install git, but if i type git, it says command not found.. where can i find git?
[10:47] <konaya> Not when the computer is on, no.
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> acemo: seems you already installed git via apt-get
[10:48] <Q-collective> WaltzingAlong: I've tried to edit the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base file to have the right module loaded
[10:48] <Q-collective> but still, nothing
[10:48] <Q-collective> :\
[10:48] <the-erm> I got nothing konaya.
[10:48] <the-erm> Sorry ...
[10:48] <konaya> the-erm, ...well, perhaps with the shipped windows vista preinstalled, but I didn't try. I only used vista for two things: downloading a kubuntu iso and burning it to cd. ^^
[10:48] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: it was my 3rd or 5th before i had it working
[10:49] <acemo> WaltzingAlong: thats what i just said, but what command do i type to use it?
[10:49] <the-erm> I refuse to by wista ...
[10:49] <Q-collective> 5th try?
[10:49] <the-erm> s/by/buy
[10:50] <the-erm> If I ever get a lap top, it'll be a dell.  Other than that I think I'll just build my own.
[10:50] <konaya> the-erm, I don't know of anyone that actually _likes_ Vista. Half of my class has started glancing on linux alternatives :)
[10:50] <Q-collective> the-erm: it would be a waste of money really, I can tell as I had it installed when I bought this laptop
[10:50] <WaltzingAlong> acemo: there is also the git-gui if you need it
[10:50] <the-erm> You still pay for it.
[10:50] <WaltzingAlong> unless you live in italy!
[10:50] <acemo> WaltzingAlong: i'd like to get the console version of git to work first
[10:51] <Q-collective> coincidentally I read an article on a major national paper today saying Ubuntu beats Vista
[10:51] <Q-collective> heh
[10:51] <acemo> Q-collective: even XP beats Vista..
[10:51] <konaya> We should really thank microsoft. Without them constantly making windows worse, people wouldn't be migrating :)
[10:52] <acemo> seems the dependencys of git are not good... i just installed git, coulnt run the command git, installed git-gui and i could run the command git
[10:52] <WaltzingAlong> acemo:  sudo update-alternatives --config git ?
[10:53] <Q-collective> acemo: as does win2k, but that isn't the point. It's one thing if nerds say Vista is crap and linux is better, it's a whole other story if major media say the same ;)
[10:53] <WaltzingAlong> acemo: you may want git-core
[10:53] <acemo> WaltzingAlong: acemo@acemo:~$ sudo update-alternatives --config git No alternatives for git.
[10:53] <acemo> WaltzingAlong: yes, i noticed that.. but it would be nice if the git package self had git-core as dependency, since it wont work without it?
[10:54] <konaya> Windows had its peak around win2k... Then things started to go steeply downhill.
[10:54] <WaltzingAlong> acemo: join the packaging team or report a bug, thanks
[10:55] <WaltzingAlong> the-erm: still have to pay for it? sure but get your money back: original (in italian) http://www.aduc.it/dyn/documenti/allegati/sentenza_hp.pdf  or to english google translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.corriere.it%2Fscienze_e_tecnologie%2F07_ottobre_25%2Fwindow.shtml&langpair=it%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
[10:55] <konaya> Imagine the next windows release. How failing would that release be? :)
[10:55] <Q-collective> indeed
[10:56] <Q-collective> MS: "hey, we finally brought you Windows 2015, it now has WinFS!"
[10:56] <Q-collective> heh
[10:56] <WaltzingAlong> gnu/linux based with a similar ms windows frontend?
[10:56] <konaya> ^^
[10:56] <the-erm> WaltzingAlong: I've read articles about that years ago, however since then I've also read articles that they've updated the TOS ... or whatever it is.  That says they will not refund your money.
[10:56] <Q-collective> MS can better just start a linux distro
[10:57] <the-erm> I think that was mentioned as a April First news article one year.  M$ Linux 2000
[10:57] <WaltzingAlong> the-erm: just hard to get the money, the eula says from the mfg but hardly ever will dell, hp, or the like give the funds
[10:57] <WaltzingAlong> the-erm: in this case a judge ruled it so
[10:58] <Q-collective> the-erm: lame really, I like geNToo a few years back much better ^_^
[10:58] <Q-collective> liked*
[10:58] <konaya> "We figured people'll just be downloading pirated software when supplied with decent bandwidth, so we've ceased all driver support for any network adapters over 28.8k."
[10:58] <the-erm> I'll just keep the cash out of M$ hands entirely.  I'll get a dell with ubuntu next time.  So I know the wifi works :)
[10:58] <fred_79> hi all, how can i kill a session vtxx?
[11:00] <Q-collective> hmm, how stable is kde4b3 btw? is plasma already in any shape?
[11:00] <the-erm> WaltzingAlong: that was a good article ... thanks.
[11:02] <WaltzingAlong> Q-collective: might want to grab it from svn but seems you can play around with it a bit
[11:03] <Q-collective> interesting
[11:05] <jpatrick> Q-collective: i've heard that the lastest debs are very stable
[11:07] <TreeStump> quick question: the kubuntu live/install cd hangs when loading after it gets to mounting root filesystem or something like that... shows a black screen with a blinking line/cursor up the top...
[11:07] <TreeStump> any ideas on what to do?
[11:08] <tripp> can u give me a link to italian kubuntu or ubuntu please?
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> TreeStump: change video modes
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> salute tripp
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> !it | tripp
[11:08] <ubotu> tripp: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:08] <jpatrick> tripp: ubuntu-it.org
[11:08] <tripp> hi
[11:08] <tripp> thanx a lot jpatrick
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> come va?
[11:08] <tripp> bene tu?
[11:08] <TreeStump> i tried safe modes and changed it to 800x600x16
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> bene grazie
[11:08] <tripp> ah ma sei ita lol
[11:08] <WaltzingAlong> TreeStump: but still not loading?
[11:08] <soon> This is pretty simple I'm sure, but how do I attach a vCard to all my outgoing mails in Kmail ??
[11:09] <TreeStump> nope sure isnt
[11:09] <tripp> !it
[11:09] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:09] <Q-collective> !ru
[11:09] <ubotu> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[11:09] <Q-collective> hehe
[11:10] <TreeStump> its annoying me so much! i have no idea what to do, done a memtest and pulled the hdd out so it cant be either, maybe coz its x64 6.06?
[11:11] <XVampireX> Hi, my X server just dies randomly for some reason... any help?
[11:11] <Q-collective> read the log?
[11:13] <XVampireX> Q-collective: There's some backtrace but it doesn't really say anything other than some problem with a font >_<
[11:13] <XVampireX> 11: /usr/bin/X(FontFileCompleteXLFD+0x1e1) [0x8076241]
[11:14] <XVampireX> Oh, looks like it has something to do with composite too..
[11:15] <WaltzingAlong> TreeStump: that should still be fine. were you looking to use live or install?
[11:15] <XVampireX> 4: /usr/bin/X(CompositeGlyphs+0x9a) [0x816129a]
[11:15] <XVampireX> I'm running compiz fusion too, hmm....
[11:16] <TreeStump> WaltzingAlong: imtrying to boot from the live cd so i can install
[11:16] <WaltzingAlong> TreeStump: then in that case could you download the alternate cd instead?
[11:17] <grinder> R
[11:19] <TreeStump> hmm whats the alternate cd? becuase i ordered this one in the mail, it could take ages to download the other cd
[11:19] <WaltzingAlong> TreeStump: oh, i see. the live lets you boot live, use it that way with the option to install. the alternate is just to install (not boot live)
[11:20] <TreeStump> truth
[11:21] <spiroo> Does anybody know ho to fully enable mod_rewrite on apache2?
[11:21] <spiroo> It does not read my .htaccess-file
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: yes
[11:21] <spiroo> Could you help me?
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: a2enmod       and ask google
[11:21] <spiroo> Google does not have the answer in this question, sorry
[11:21] <WaltzingAlong> spiroo: otherwise join the apache channel or the like. #kubuntu is for kubuntu specific support
[11:22] <spiroo> I have used a2enmod
[11:22] <spiroo> okay whats the apache-channeö then?
[11:22] <WaltzingAlong> #apache ?
[11:23] <spiroo> thanks
[11:32] <TreeStump> so when i wanna download the installer iso to i get desktop-amd64 or alternate-amd64
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> desktop is live
[11:32] <WaltzingAlong> so alternate amd64
[11:33] <TreeStump> thanks
[11:35] <mahdi> test
[11:36] <WaltzingAlong> fail
[11:36] <mahdi> :-(
[11:47] <bwayne> Hi.  I filed a bug against a package and the developers have posted a 'debdiff' for me to test.  But how to I apply a debdiff?
[11:52] <shadowhywind> hay all, i closed down the power meter that sits in the systray, And i can't figure out how to reopen it any ideas?
[11:55] <Minnozz> Hi, when I start an SSH session to my webhoster, it takes a long time before the password promt shows up (about 15 seconds). On my friend's system, it shows up immediately. What could cause this?
[11:56] <HighHo> shadowhywind: I think its an applet, right click the me menu panel (empty space) and select add aplet
[11:56] <HighHo> *add applet to panel
[11:56] <kaminix> What's a good graphical/ncurses based FTP-tool?
[11:56] <shadowhywind> ok thanks
[11:57] <Jucato> kaminix: Konqueror?
[11:58] <HighHo> kaminix: I use FileZilla for ftp
[11:58] <kaminix> Jucato: But Konq doesn't support resuming/splitscreening, right?
[11:58] <gundam_rx78nt1> I just upgraded kubuntu to 7.10.
[11:58] <kaminix> HighHo: Isn't that a Windows prog?
[11:59] <Jucato> kaminix: split screening yes. resuming, when uploading to an ftp server?
[11:59] <HighHo> Both linux and Windows
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> but gui in both cases
[11:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, now knetworkmanager doesn't find any of my network cards (wireless and wired). both were recognized by 7.04.  How can I fix this?
[11:59] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: remove all 'eth' referencs in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:59] <Jucato> kaminix: you can split Konqueror's screen as much as you want.. the only limit is your screen space and sanity :)
[11:59] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, WaltzAlong.
[12:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> That is problem number one.
[12:00] <Jucato> kaminix: right-click on the Konqueror status bar and you'll see the split screen options
[12:00] <Jucato> brb...
[12:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> How do I get the nvidia drivers installed?
[12:00] <WaltzingAlong> !nvidia | gundam_rx78nt1
[12:00] <ubotu> gundam_rx78nt1: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:01] <WaltzingAlong> gundam_rx78nt1: with 7.10 do so through the restricted manager
[12:01] <kaminix> Jucato: But does it support download resume? I think it just asks me to overwrite files with the same filename.
[12:02] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: kget integrates well with konqueror
[12:02] <emilsedgh> kalorin: konqueror supports spliting screens
[12:03] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:03] <emilsedgh> kalorin: both vertical and horizontal splits, and even you could have hundreds of splits
[12:03] <Fyl0n> Hi guys! :)
[12:03] <Fyl0n> I'm looking for good mouse support for the Logitech G7..
[12:03] <Fyl0n> Does kubuntu support the G7 completly?
[12:03] <Credendo> Hello
[12:03] <Credendo> I've somehow managed to kill my kubuntu install
[12:03] <time2die> can I download drivers for Ati Radeon 2600PRO?
[12:04] <kaminix> WaltzingAlong: Does KGet support password protected FTPs?
[12:04] <Jucato> emilsedgh: you're talking to the wrong k*
[12:04] <WaltzingAlong> !info kget
[12:04] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 442 kB, installed size 1196 kB
[12:04] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: anything konqueror can do
[12:04] <Jucato> kaminix: yes I believe kget does.
[12:04] <Credendo> My kubuntu gets as far as the splash screen and and dies
[12:05] <Credendo> its saying that the X-serv isn't running
[12:05] <Credendo> I'm currently running off the live CD
[12:05] <Jucato> actually of all of KDE, through the ftp:/ and sftp:/ kioslaves support password protected ftps
[12:06] <Credendo> I think I need to reinstall X from scrath, I just need to know how to go about that from a command line
[12:06] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:07] <wathek> it's makes me mad !!!!
[12:07] <wathek> I've a shared printer and I couldn't add it in my Kubuntu
[12:07] <jpatrick> wathek: have you installed samba?
[12:07] <jpatrick> !printer
[12:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[12:07] <wathek> I've specified this http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/Canon_iP1000_USB_1 and it tells me
[12:07] <wathek> need a password and a username !
[12:07] <Credendo> Will that actually re-install? because I suspect my x is dead
[12:07] <WaltzingAlong> wathek: shared from where?
[12:08] <wathek> WaltzingAlong: I've a Debian Server in which is connected the printer
[12:08] <wathek> I use cups on my Debian Server
[12:08] <wathek> under the other Clients windows for example I put that address and all work well
[12:08] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: to reinstall x? or how about reconfigure  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:09] <gundam_rx78nt1> WaltzAlong, thanks.
[12:11] <Credendo> I did reconfigure
[12:11] <Credendo> It seemed to ake things worse
[12:11] <Credendo> Where exactly would my boot logs be stored?
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> two steps back one leap forward
[12:11] <WaltzingAlong> /var/log
[12:11] <Credendo> which file I mean
[12:12] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: for x check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:12] <Credendo> EE listed at the bottom says
[12:12] <Credendo> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[12:13] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: could select the 'vesa' driver which should always work
[12:13] <Credendo> in the reconfig?
[12:15] <Credendo> I should note that the issue is probably of my own design, I had an application in Wine that was asking me to change my desktop color depth
[12:15] <Credendo> I changed something in the display setting that I can't for the life of me remember what, and after my wife rebooted the system it died at the KDE load
[12:18] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:18] <ubuntu> .
[12:18] <ubuntu> >
[12:18] <ubuntu> ?
[12:18] <ubuntu> M
[12:18] <ubuntu> Q
[12:18] <Credendo> I'll be back after attempting that
[12:18] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: well which driver did you select in the reconfig?
[12:18] <Credendo> nv
[12:19] <HighHo> Credendo: have you tryed running?: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:19] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: do you happen to have a backup of a working xorg.conf ?
[12:19] <Credendo> I did that minus the phigh
[12:20] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: using phigh only asks high priority questions
[12:20] <mogardo> hi all someone can give me a french chan?
[12:21] <WaltzingAlong> !fr | mogardo
[12:21] <ubotu> mogardo: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:21] <mogardo> thx
[12:21] <Credendo> is there any way to get root access to copy and paste files on my file structure from a live CD?
[12:21] <WaltzingAlong> sudo ? sudo cp src dst ?
[12:26] <atlfalcons866> how do i install kde4
[12:26] <bsm> hey, ideas anyone why kmail works when I use one internet connection and does not work after switching the connection to a different one? ( one is university wlan and one is 3G)
[12:27] <bsm> after restarting kde it works again
[12:28] <Credendo> Thanks Waltzing I'm gonna try it real quick
[12:28] <Credendo> I'll be back if it doesn't work :)
[12:29] <Dragnslcr> atlfalcons866- http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[12:35] <kalorin> bsm, do they share the same ip address range and network stuff?
[12:35] <kalorin> the two connections I mean
[12:36] <bsm> kalorin, could be, I would have to check
[12:36] <bsm> kalorin: does kmail cache something?
[12:41] <bsm> kalorin, it was good input, i disabled some kde services (caching whatever) and it works now.
[12:42] <bsm> thanks.
[12:53] <vzolin> Hello There
[12:54] <vzolin> I'm having problems installing kubuntu in my notebook
[12:54] <vzolin> can anyone help me?
[12:58] <Riddell> vzolin: you need to say what problems
[12:58] <vzolin> Sure
[12:59] <vzolin> The livecd boot hangs when loading drivers, or if pass that stage when loading X
[13:00] <Credendo> Well I tried rreinstating my old xorg.conf
[13:00] <Credendo> that didn't seem to solve the problem
[13:00] <Credendo> sudo/etc/init.d/kdm restart froze at a flashing prompt
[13:01] <Credendo> sudo dpckg-reconfigure -phigh xserv-xorg now gives me an error
[13:01] <Credendo> Fatal Error inserting battery
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: and the only change was installing something through wine? hard to understand how that would ruin your X
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: possible to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your corresponding /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[13:02] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | Credendo
[13:02] <ubotu> Credendo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:03] <vzolin> there is documentation on the net about new drivers for my Video Card (nvdia go 6150), but nothing on the notebook
[13:03] <kaminix> Is there any way to set KMail and KOrganizer to start in minimized-to-tray mode?
[13:03] <Credendo> Well It's not something I JUST changed in wine
[13:03] <WaltzingAlong> vzolin: if you just want to install maybe start with the dvd or alternate-cd; otherwise how about safe color/res modes and such
[13:04] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: other than editing the shortcut in the menu editor to launch minimized to tray? or perhaps a config option in kmail for that
[13:04] <kaminix> WaltzingAlong: No, including that. :)
[13:04] <Credendo> my wine started acting up at first, then it stopped displaying the cursur when I tried to configure my wine settings, then when I changed a setting on display
[13:04] <vzolin> well safe graphics do pass the hardware loading phase, but it dies in X
[13:05] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: kmail/settings/appearance/system tray
[13:06] <kaminix> WaltzingAlong: Thanks. :) What about Korganizer? It has the same option perhaps?
[13:07] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: it could. i do not see that option though with korg
[13:08] <WaltzingAlong> anizer
[13:08]  * genii sips a coffee
[13:09] <kaminix> Isn't there some suffix on the commandline that will do it WaltzingAlong?
[13:09] <Credendo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42552/
[13:09] <WaltzingAlong> kaminix: could be. i do not know
[13:10] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: ok and the xorg.conf ?   (btw: (EE) NV(0): Virtual width (2048) is too large for the hardware (max 2032 )
[13:11] <Credendo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42553/
[13:14] <JohnFlux> I'm running kubuntu on my laptop, connected to my main kubuntu machine via nomachine, running vmware
[13:15] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: could comment out busid line
[13:16] <Jucato> JohnFlux: crazy setup :)
[13:17] <JohnFlux> Jucato: laptop is only 233mhz with 16MB of ram :)  but this way I can run ms word on it :)
[13:17] <Credendo> where it says "PCI:1:0:0"
[13:17] <Jucato> hahah :)
[13:18] <epimeth> hello guys!
[13:20] <eidolon7k> could anybody tell me some wireless card models that work fine on Ubuntu?
[13:22] <biovore> eidolon7k: intel
[13:22] <leo_rockw> hello everyone, i have a question regarding apollon... what player does it use? and how do i change the configuration?
[13:23] <eidolon7k> bioxore, EVERY Intel card?
[13:24] <biovore> Intel actauly support there product on linux..
[13:24] <biovore> I think all there cards work on ubuntu
[13:24] <leo_rockw> i want to configure apollon's player so it doesn't use xv but gl2. and akode instead of arts...
[13:25] <biovore> 2200, and 3945ABG
[13:25] <biovore> work well
[13:25] <genii> eidolon7k: Perhaps check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:25] <biovore> one that work by ndis are probably ones to say away from..
[13:26] <mucino> hola buenos dias estoy utilizando por primera vez
[13:26] <mucino> kubunto
[13:26] <mucino> alguien podria decirme como habrir el messenger
[13:26] <mucino> ?????
[13:26] <leo_rockw> mucino, este canal es en ingles
[13:26] <leo_rockw> mucino: #kubuntu-es
[13:27] <Credendo> Well son of a monkey
[13:27] <Credendo> That worked
[13:27] <Credendo> thanks WaltzingAlong
[13:27] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: great
[13:29] <Credendo> and now my Wine application is working smoothly
[13:29] <Credendo> See this is why ubuntu beats windows hands down :)
[13:30] <Credendo> can you explain what was going wrong so I can avoid the issue later?
[13:30] <leo_rockw> Credendo: wine is not that good... try running virii in wine, the don't work!
[13:30] <leo_rockw> they*
[13:31] <Shao|sama> Question about upstart and inittab: Is upstart actually making inittab obsolete? I don't have /etc/inittab on my system, and the package runit barfed when trying to install because of a missing /etc/inittab
[13:31] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: how about pastebin the output of lspci
[13:33] <genii> Shao|sama: you can always just touch the dir and the install should finish
[13:33] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: busid can be useful when there are more video devices than just one
[13:33] <Credendo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42557/
[13:34] <leo_rockw> how do i tell kaboodle to use gl2 instead of xv?
[13:34] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: otherwise it was just something to try because x should be able to work without specifying the busid. maybe a bug in the bios, maybe with the modules or x;
[13:35] <Shao|sama> genii: Indeed, I have it installed now, but I was trying to figure out if /etc/inittab is supposed to be non-existant :)
[13:35] <Credendo> Well it sure cleaned things up for me, and I appreciate the help. I'm clearly gonna have to get the rust out of my linux skills. I haven't done anything with linux since an early redhat
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> Shao|sama: i heard that gutsy was shipping without tty1-6, not sure if it is an error or intentional
[13:36] <hjalle> is there a way to make amarok use a softwaremixer?
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> Credendo: and i saw nothing out that stood out in the conf, nothing about a virtual desktop size, and resolutions that the driver could handle, and so on
[13:36] <WaltzingAlong> hjalle: there is an equalizer already in amork
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> amarok*
[13:37] <genii> Shao|sama: Yes. But many of the specific installers haven't been made compliant yet
[13:37] <Shao|sama> genii: Ok
[13:37] <Shao|sama> Nothing to worry about then
[13:37] <WaltzingAlong> hjalle: is that what you mean? amarok/tools/equalizer
[13:38] <hjalle> WaltzingAlong: well problem is that te drivers for my hardware is'nt very good (got a amd 690g mobo) and only the sw mixer seems to work well
[13:38] <hjalle> WaltzingAlong: not really
[13:39] <hjalle> and only one app at the time seems to be able to use the hw mixer, while i can run plenty of apps with a swmixer
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> hjalle: not sure. alsa? !sound ?
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> !sound
[13:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:44] <leo_rockw> is there any way to change kaboodle's behaviour at all?
[13:44] <a> WaltzingAlong: yeah i use alsa, but using oss doesnt mage a difference, and everything "works" only if i use the hwmixer the sound dies after a while
[13:44] <llutz> !info xmms-skins
[13:44] <ubotu> xmms-skins: Skins for XMMS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (gutsy), package size 909 kB, installed size 1040 kB
[13:46] <dmq> exit
[14:01] <kyron> quick question, a friend told me there are some applications not in the official repository for "legal" reasons but that they are really easy to get off another repo...which applications would be off the official cite, as an example; DVD decoders?
[14:01] <frank23> !medibuntu
[14:01] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[14:01] <jpatrick> !dvd
[14:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[14:01] <kyron> Fradeve87, thanks ;)
[14:02] <v3ctor> special thanks to frank23 too
[14:02] <kyron> jpatrick, thanks too... point is, this is my mother's laptop I am migrating from Gentoo to Kubuntu... I'm a "no frills" guy and...well... that's me, not the rest of the people :P
[14:03] <jpatrick> kyron: I'm migrating my dad's laptop from xp to kubuntu! :D
[14:03] <kyron> jpatrick, Wohooo!... good jump..
[14:03] <jpatrick> !es > jose
[14:03] <kyron> fun thing is... All I will have to tell my mother is, "that's the upgrade I made while you were gone"...and she'll be happy..
[14:04] <jpatrick> kyron: yeah, but the last night I... the partitioner wiped out the NFTS partition
[14:04] <kyron> the only worry I have is remote management...she lives 5000km from me..
[14:04] <kyron> and gentoo has portage that I am used to...kubuntu...well...it's very graphical...though I saw krfb...
[14:04] <kyron> jpatrick, O_O.............ouch
[14:04] <jpatrick> use ssh? I control my siblings computer with that
[14:05] <kyron> jpatrick, is it enabled by default?
[14:05] <jpatrick> no worries we backed up everything beforehand
[14:05] <jpatrick> kyron: nop, but it's as easy as installing "openssh-server"
[14:06] <kyron> jpatrick, good move
[14:06] <jpatrick> now, the whole family has kubuntu-run computers >:)
[14:06] <posingaspopular> nice move jpatrick
[14:06] <Lynoure> jpatrick: :)
[14:07] <jpatrick> they didn't have a choice
[14:07] <posingaspopular> ssh is very useful. one day i'll figure it out myself
[14:07] <kyron> jpatrick, I run a Gentoo server with LTSP backend... X terms :P
[14:07] <vbgunz> ever since I've installed Gutsy fresh on release day not once have I had an alert to any new packages... I find this out because I actually run apt-get update regularly. whats up? why no notifications?
[14:07] <Jucato> posingaspopular: all you need to do is to figure out how to open up port 22 :)
[14:07] <Jucato> (or forward it...)
[14:07] <posingaspopular> Jucato: that's devil talk
[14:07] <kyron> though I am itching to try out the ubuntu/(kubuntu?) version with all the USB/Sound device support
[14:07] <jpatrick> !ssh > posingaspopular
[14:07] <posingaspopular> i have to go to school, but i'd rather be hanging out with you
[14:08] <jpatrick> I know how that feels
[14:08] <Jucato> posingaspopular: I have it easy. my routher has a web-based UI for port forwarding, so I forward port 22 to my desktop
[14:08] <Jucato> touter
[14:08] <Jucato> er.. router
[14:08] <kyron> jpatrick, the bot is cool...it takes redirrections :P
[14:08] <jpatrick> kyron: it does several things
[14:09] <jpatrick> but it doesn't make tea...
[14:09] <Jucato> ubotu: tell kyron about ubotu
[14:09] <kyron> Jucato, LOL
[14:09] <Jucato> (it should PM you...)
[14:09] <kyron> jpatrick, aw that sucks...though I am certan it could :P
[14:09] <kyron> Jucato, it did of course
[14:09] <Jucato> !botsnack
[14:09] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[14:09] <Jucato> good :)
[14:10] <kyron> jpatrick, use AWK to listen to a specific port/IRC channel as a specific user and trigger a port event if ubotu tells the user to make some tea
[14:11] <kyron> Gutsy Gibbon CD ready...let's go whipe the mother's laptop :P ...guess the only thing I have to do in her $HOME is to delete all .[configdir] folders and files
[14:12] <vbgunz> in kopete, can you combin the same contact from several different services into one contact?
[14:12] <vbgunz> you should, I forgot how and don't see anything to make it easy :/
[14:13] <kyron> Q all: How to I KILL Katapult to get my Alt-Space back for window menus?
[14:13] <blanco> ciao
[14:13] <epimeth> goooood afternoon matees
[14:13] <kyron> vbgunz, in your dreams ;)
[14:13] <vbgunz> kyron: not possible you're saying?
[14:13] <jpatrick> kyron: katapult rocks!! but "killall katapult"
[14:13] <kyron> vbgunz, kidding...there is a way to group kontacts
[14:14] <kyron> but it sorta changes every release I saw :P
[14:14] <epimeth> anybody know how to set up a pptp vpn?
[14:14] <kyron> epimeth, yeah, m0n0wall :P
[14:14] <vbgunz> I would think it should be as easy as highlight the same contact, then make one contact :/
[14:14] <epimeth> !m0n0wall
[14:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about m0n0wall - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:14] <epimeth> kyron: ?
[14:14] <kyron> jpatrick, yeah, katapult is kioute...but annoying.. I'd at least bind it to another key...sorta like Win-R
[14:15] <epimeth> kyron: :-p  I meant in kubuntu!!!
[14:15] <kyron> epimeth, I'm kidding, it's a free firewall-in-a-boox solution (if you have spare hardware) which does pretty much everything
[14:15] <kyron> epimeth, hehehe...I'm a [UK]buntu neophite, sorry ;)
[14:15] <epimeth> kyron: thats quite all right :-)
[14:16] <epimeth> how about TOR? anybody using it?
[14:16] <blanco> jnn
[14:16] <kyron> epimeth, given what I have seen done here, I would suspect there is a really nice interface ;)
[14:17] <kyron> jpatrick, katapult configurable? (do feel free to shove me to some docs...)
[14:18] <epimeth> kyron: to what? setting up a vpn?
[14:18] <jpatrick> kyron: open it up, and press ctrl-c
[14:18] <kyron> epimeth, yeah
[14:18] <kyron> jpatrick, OOoooo!
[14:18] <epimeth> kyron: not according to the docs there aint :-(
[14:19] <kyron> jpatrick, that doesn't let me configure what "triggers" it and I didn't find the shortcut in kcontrol...
[14:19] <kyron> epimeth, Go Gentoo then....gneheheheh
[14:19] <jpatrick> kyron: the shortcuts are in the Katapult menu
[14:20] <kyron> epimeth, kidding...I'm surprised there ain't a package to do that
[14:20] <kyron> jpatrick, Oh...global shortcuts...my bad
[14:20] <vbgunz> kyron: metacontact
[14:20] <epimeth> kyron: yea... me too. but then again, setting up a VPN server is really something only advanced users should do.
[14:21] <kyron> vbgunz, in kopete huh... I switched to amsn a while back due to some instability and lack of feature support (video)...might look back
[14:21] <kyron> epimeth, Oh...you're setting up a _server_?
[14:21] <vbgunz> kyron: I just switched from Gami to Kopete. Kopete starting to finally feel solid
[14:21] <vbgunz> /Gami/Gaim/
[14:22] <epimeth> kyron: yup
[14:23] <kyron> epimeth, doesn't [ku]buntu have a "sever" version to do that type of thing?
[14:23] <epimeth> kyron: DNS and DHCP are up and running be-a-u-tifully... SSH was trivial... but I can't get the friggin PPTPd working right
[14:23] <jpatrick> kyron: it does, you type "server" when you first put in the disk
[14:23] <epimeth> kyron: yea... its a 'minimal' install command line only system.  (minimal should be read: "small, but still much much bigger than debian :-p")
[14:24] <epimeth> jpatrick: what up?  long time no "see"
[14:24] <epimeth> kyron: btw... its spelled "[k]ubuntu" :-)
[14:25] <kyron> epimeth, note that I run Gentoo (clusters, LTSP servers and all) so I am not much of a reference concerning [uk]buntu stuff unfortunately
[14:25] <jpatrick> epimeth: not much, looking into some merges
[14:25] <kyron> i'm trolling here in the hopes of learning a little more to tell my students too (if I ever get to teach the BASH class again next semester :P)
[14:26] <kyron> epimeth, actuall, it should be (U|Ku)buntu
[14:26] <epimeth> kyron: what level of education?
[14:26] <jpatrick> kyron: best way to learn is to smashup everything
[14:26] <kyron> I'm working myself up to writing my masters at the moment... profiling of communications of parallel genetic multi-objective algorithms...
[14:27]  * jpatrick is still in secondary eduaction
[14:27] <kyron> jpatrick, the first thing I tell my students to do is to make mistakes... or they won't learn a thing ;P
[14:27] <epimeth> kyron: oh! oh! #rm -r /
[14:28] <jpatrick> epimeth: you missed the -f
[14:28] <epimeth> kyron: oh! oh! #yes | rm -r /
[14:28] <epimeth> jpatrick: no i didn't ^
[14:28] <epimeth> :-p
[14:29] <Nyle> I upgraded to gusty and it deleteld all my konqueror mouse gestures
[14:30] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: LaTeX
[14:31] <Nyle> how can I get em back
[14:31] <dthacker-work> good local time channel! Using Systems network manager, I am unable to change my default gateway for the onboard wired NIC on my laptop.   How can I make this change?
[14:31] <Nyle> can anyone else out there upload a premade one, so i don't have to
[14:31] <Nyle> pleae
[14:31] <fadey> Hi, everyone. Does anyone know what is EVMS for? Is it safe to delete it?
[14:32] <dthacker-work> Sorry: I should say this is gutsy.  Fresh load.
[14:32] <kyron> epimeth, it's rm -Rf /
[14:32] <kyron> R
[14:32] <WaltzingAlong> dthacker-work: through knetworkmanager?
[14:32] <LjL> kyron: not really, -r or -R doesn't make a difference
[14:32] <epimeth> kyron:  -r, -R, --recursive   remove directories and their contents recursively
[14:32] <epimeth> nya nya
[14:32] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, yes Latex...but why tell me?
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: to mention it had you not heard it (mentioned working on a masters)
[14:33] <kyron> epimeth, ok...so i'm an oldy
[14:33] <epimeth> fadey: ever heard the phrase "If it aint broke, don't fix it"?  seriously tho, I don't know....
[14:33] <Tamin> Hey. This is a long one, so bear with me, please :) I'm running 6.06, and am having... issues with my USB wireless adapter.
[14:33] <dthacker-work> WaltzingAlong: Is KNetworkmanager the cute but worthless icon in the system tray?
[14:33] <Tamin> According to /var/run/messages, NETDEV WATCHDOG began having issues with it transmitting; about three days ago it got fed up and reported an EPROTO; hardware, connectivity, or firmware issue. When I remove it and plug it back in, it comes back with zd1211: usb_control_msg 1 fail: FFFFFFE0 (which, according to my understanding of my LDD book, is a contradiction), and zd1211_Download_IncludeFile failed. I do not suspect the device,
[14:34] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, LOL...yeah...the insult is that my U prones Word for writing up theses
[14:34] <epimeth> kyron: thats okay, I'm slowly but surely pludding along and becoming an oldy myself
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: exactly
[14:34] <Tamin> lsusb: reports that there IS a device attached with the proper name
[14:34] <Tamin> lshw: reports that, while there is a device attached, it's UNCLAIMED
[14:34] <Tamin> lsmod: reports that module zd1211 is attached
[14:34] <Tamin> ifconfig wlan *ip*: reports that it can't find the device
[14:34] <Tamin> Everything I can see tells me it *should* be working, but ... it's not. What have I missed?
[14:34] <kyron> epimeth, got kids
[14:34] <WaltzingAlong> dthacker-work: right. delete any reference to eth devices in /etc/network/interfaces , make knetworkmanager live again! or, how were you attempting to set the default gateway?
[14:35] <epimeth> kyron: no wifey yet...
[14:35] <epimeth> WaltzingAlong: waaait... shouldn't he leave "auto eth0/1/X" ?
[14:35] <ubuntu> .
[14:35] <kyron> epimeth, hehe...got a 5year GF and a 2m/old baby....but 28...so not too old
[14:36] <dthacker-work> WaltzingAlong: I had everything set up for my home network.  I am now attempting to change eth0 (the hardwired NIC) over to my desktop address and create a work profile.   I
[14:36] <epimeth> congratulations then!
[14:36] <jpatrick> kyron: ask your students if they're interested in becoming devs :P
[14:36] <dthacker-work> WaltzingAlong: I am using Systems==> Network Manager
[14:37] <kyron> jpatrick, LOL...my students are forced to take the BASH course and 96% of em HATE this class :P
[14:37] <epimeth> dthacker-work: you want to create a mapping or just override your previous eth0 settings?
[14:37]  * jpatrick prefers python + ruby for scripting
[14:37] <dthacker-work> epimeth: mapping?
[14:38] <hydrogen> I wouldn't be proud if 96% of my students did not like a class I taught..
[14:38] <hydrogen> but hey, that sjust me!
[14:38] <epimeth> dthacker-work: you can set up a single ethernet card to work on multiple addresses/netmasks/gateways
[14:38] <epimeth> dthacker-work: man interfaces
[14:38] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, concerning Latex, yeah, I don't like the fluff, only the content, hence me being under Gentoo generally and typing under latex (so...I like to fsck around for hours learning how to place a png in a document...and not re-learn how to do it or see my doc change format years later because the processor decided the format changed because of a font change :P)
[14:38] <epimeth> dthacker-work: you basically create 2 adapters from the same one... say "eth0-home" and "et0-work"
[14:39] <kyron> hydrogen, you mean you
[14:39] <dthacker-work> epimeth: what is the difference between mappings and profiles?
[14:39] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: exactly. it was well worth the effort i thought
[14:39] <kyron> as I was saying (be damned non-standard keyboard): you mean they don't like your class at a higher percentage)
[14:39] <epimeth> dthacker-work: what are profiles?
[14:39] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, ;)
[14:40] <dthacker-work> epimeth: see the 4th tab in System Setting--> Network Settings
[14:41] <Tamin> Anyone have experience with lshw showing a usb wireless adapter as UNCLAIMED?
[14:42] <the-tomic> a little help please -> is it possible to install kubuntu without affecting your win xp installation?
[14:42] <WaltzingAlong> the-tomic: dual booting and the like? sure.
[14:42] <the-tomic> but without formating my computer?
[14:43] <WaltzingAlong> the-tomic: yes. resizing partitions as necessary if you want to install; or could run the live/desktop cd to play around with it
[14:43] <epimeth> dthacker-work: never used network settings in system settings... don't know what it does / how it works
[14:44] <epimeth> dthacker-work: but it seems like it saves the configuration.  so you can load different profiles manually whenever you move from place to place.  mappings work all the time no matter where you are
[14:44] <the-tomic> i'm using it live from a dvd now, but in case i want to install it - resize partitions and install kubuntu... ok, so it's possible
[14:45] <dthacker-work> epimeth: ok, I'll take a look at that.  Thank you for your assistance.
[14:45] <WaltzingAlong> the-tomic: yeah and the installer can walk you through it
[14:45] <the-tomic> thx
[14:45] <dthacker-work> epimeth: for now I'll use CLI to set default gateway.
[14:46] <epimeth> dthacker-work: no worries.  $man interfaces ... the file is located in /etc/network/interfaces... you reload by $sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:46] <epimeth> dthacker-work: meanwhile, KNetworkManager *should* pick up on any changes once you restart the networking service
[14:47] <dthacker-work> epimeth: ok, I'll give it a go.  Thanks
[14:47] <epimeth> dthacker-work: if not, you can restart the computer and it will pick up on any changes then...
[14:48] <epimeth> dthacker-work: no worries :-)
[14:50] <gil> holaç
[14:50] <poison--> mornin
[14:50] <poison--> anyone havin issues with dvd playback?
[14:50] <ubunturos> is there #kubuntu-1
[14:50] <Lynoure> poison--: What kind of issues are you having?
[14:50] <dthacker-work> poison: no, works great, what's your problem
[14:50] <poison--> display corruption
[14:51] <Jucato> ubunturos: no.
[14:51] <Jucato> at least not yet
[14:51] <poison--> hey jucato
[14:51] <Jucato> hi poison--
[14:51] <poison--> im using an onboard machine
[14:51] <ubunturos> Jucato: um, ok
[14:51] <gil> somebody  know a irc channel in spanish?
[14:51] <poison--> with sis vga
[14:51] <poison--> !es
[14:51] <ubunturos> !sp
[14:51] <llutz> !es
[14:51] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[14:51] <poison--> lmao
[14:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:52] <ubunturos> poison--: which one? (SiS 6230 ?)
[14:52] <poison--> <dthacker-work, i1ve installed kubuntu restricted formats, ffmpeg.. but nothin
[14:52] <poison--> lemme see
[14:52] <poison--> SIS 761
[14:52] <ubunturos> umm, ok
[14:53] <poison--> if i reduce the screen size to tiny, it works
[14:53] <poison--> i can see image
[14:53] <poison--> but if i raize it, i get corrupted image
[14:53] <HenriqueGogo> please, I want a help: how I install files in my Plam by GNOME-PILOT? (I can syncronize my to do list and address.. but I dont know how I install *.prc or *.pdb br GNOME-PILOT)... please, some help!
[14:53] <poison--> !palm
[14:54] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[14:54] <HenriqueGogo> poison--: sorry my mistake
[14:55] <HenriqueGogo> poison--: do you know?
[14:55] <Tamin> Anyone know why my usb wireless adapter is listed in lshw as unclaimed?
[14:55] <Kr4t05> Gar... KDE and Compiz make conky cry. :<
[14:55] <Tamin> it seems to be a rather... unique problem
[14:55] <dthacker-work> poison--: sorry, I'm not sure how to debug that.  It's sounds like you've done all the things I would have to fix it.
[14:56] <poison--> i didnt, i dont have a palm, but try to read that url, maybe has some help
[14:57] <HenriqueGogo> poison--: I was read this url, but doesnt work
[14:58] <poison--> :(
[15:02] <kaminix> Hmm... although it was interruptet, a download I have in KTorrent still says it has not been resumed. How do I resume it?
[15:02] <kaminix> Delay + resume only shows Login was ok.
[15:03] <Pergunta> what best ubuntu or kubuntu?
[15:03] <tackat> kubuntu ;-)
[15:03] <CharlieKane> can someone tell me how to get compiz fusion to work with kubuntu ?
[15:04] <Pergunta> and why?
[15:04] <CharlieKane> without crashing stuff and losing my window decorations
[15:04] <Tamin> Can anyone spare a bit to help me troubleshoot my usb wireless adapter?
[15:04] <tackat> Pergunta: try it and find out for yourself why Kubuntu is the better choice for you :-)
[15:05] <Pergunta> i use kubuntu and ubuntu both
[15:05] <metacon> I have no alsa config files they never instaled when i instald festy can some one direct me to a bug report or tell me where to put new config files and where to get them? please^_^
[15:05] <Pergunta> and then
[15:05] <tackat> Pergunta: Actually it's hard to say what is better in general because it's a personal preference. And given that people have different tastes and habits ...
[15:05] <Pergunta> i delete ubuntu
[15:05] <dennisv> because kde is superior to gnome, that's why
[15:06] <CharlieKane> Im giving up and uninstalling compiz
[15:06] <genii> Pergunta: Since underneath bot ubuntu and kubuntu is the same core, it just comes to which gui interface you prefer most.
[15:06] <genii> *both
[15:06] <Exilant> I'm trying to run kubuntu in qemu (i want to tweak the cd a little), but i only get a busyBox shell, no error messages
[15:06] <Pergunta> someone talk hebrew?
[15:06] <CharlieKane> Can't get any help and it looks like compiz fusion is unresonably biased toward gnome
[15:06] <Exilant> anyone did that, or knows when kubuntu starts busybox?
[15:07] <Pergunta> kk
[15:07] <WaltzingAlong> !busybox
[15:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:08] <WaltzingAlong> !he
[15:08] <ubotu> לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד:
[15:08] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[15:08] <poison--> <dthacker-work, ubunturos, fixed it. just went to kaffeine xine engine settings and changed engine to opengl.. workin nice now
[15:09] <CharlieKane> done... its gone now
[15:09] <genii> Exilant: If this is the alternate install CD, there are 4 consoles normally, 1st shows progress, 2 &3 are busybox and 4 is error/stdout
[15:09] <Exilant> it's not, the normal cd
[15:09] <Exilant> that should boot to kde
[15:10] <WaltzingAlong> Exilant: when it can detect the video
[15:10] <Exilant> and in fact did so when i installed it :)
[15:10] <Exilant> hm, good point
[15:11] <CharlieKane> Anyone using KDE4 Beta 3 atm ?
[15:13] <WaltzingAlong> CharlieKane: sure
[15:13] <CharlieKane> How are you finding it ?
[15:13] <WaltzingAlong> well
[15:13] <CharlieKane> cool
[15:14] <WaltzingAlong> looking forward to its 4.1 release!
[15:14] <CharlieKane> Why 4.1 exactly ?
[15:15] <WaltzingAlong> :D
[15:15] <rafael_> tem canal kubuntu
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> of course i will put 4.0 on in december (already on now in beta3) but maybe things are refined better in 4.1?
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> !it | rafael_
[15:16] <ubotu> rafael_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:16] <rafael_> is an kubuntu chanel in portuguese?
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> !pr
[15:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:16] <WaltzingAlong> !po
[15:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:16] <genii> !pt
[15:16] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> !es
[15:16] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:17] <rafael_> thanks
[15:17] <genii> pt=portugal
[15:17] <genii> pr=peru es=spain
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> !portuguese
[15:17] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[15:17] <WaltzingAlong> well no need for abbrv then ;)
[15:17] <genii> WaltzingAlong: :)
[15:18] <Exilant> ah, seems to be a bug in qemu
[15:19] <gil> en español?
[15:19] <rafael_> anybody know how can I rip dvd with k3b, i have the trancode but i cant rip in k3b
[15:19] <WaltzingAlong> !es | gil
[15:19] <ubotu> gil: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[15:19] <Exilant> also, kqemu seems not to work at all
[15:20] <WaltzingAlong> rafael_: what do you want at the end? mpeg4 (avi or the like) or a video-dvd copy?
[15:20] <gil> gracias
[15:21] <WaltzingAlong> !k9copy | rafael_
[15:21] <ubotu> rafael_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[15:26] <Tamin> what, if anything, can I do about 'nonzero read bulk status received: -EPROTO"
[15:27] <tuxwulf> Am I visible ?
[15:28] <Tamin> Well, I can read you...
[15:29] <Tamin> but, at this point, I'm not sure *I'm* getting through
[15:30]  * The_Machine sees Tamin
[15:30]  * Tamin is slightly cheered
[15:31] <The_Machine> er, tuxwulf even
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> :-)
[15:32] <tuxwulf> Ah
[15:32] <tuxwulf> Thanks
[15:32] <tuxwulf> Machine: thanks
[15:37] <kenkku> hi, what might be the problem if I have to enable "pre-released updates" in adept to be able to do a full version upgrade?
[15:37] <kenkku> I'm guessing language files
[15:40] <EmergeTW> Anyone have an idea why Netbeans 5.5-0.59 is showing up in my Adept instead of 5.5.1? I did a fetch updates
[15:41] <lg188> hello
[15:41] <lg188> somebody knows how to coneect other servers ?
[15:42] <kyron> Awwwww... I I just installed 7.10 on and the menus are ...wrong: All entries are preceded by _:Entry...blah blah blah
[15:42] <kenkku> lg188: what kind of servers?
[15:42] <Tamin> Hmm... I must be missing something. lsusb claims that my wireless adapter is being seen by the system, and lsmod claims the correct module is loaded; lshw, however, says that the device is "unclaimed", following a EPROTO error; Said device works on the Windows machine. Is there a way to force Kubuntu to 'claim' the device?
[15:43] <lg188> webnet
[15:43] <petesejt> Pls some1 help. I have gutsy, and like to compile smthing. I got the error message "C compiler cannot create executables" bcoz no gcc etc installed. Trying "sudo apt-get install gcc..." or via adept it asks for gutsy cd again and again but the disk IN  the drive. :-S
[15:44] <Gulars> I'm having some issues with knetworkmanager. for instance, if I boot the computer disconnected eth0 wont show up in the interfaces list. This also happends, when having been connected to a wlan, and then moving the laptop out of coverage and connecting to a wired network. /etc/interfaces is empty (other than lo) and /etc/init.d/networking restart does nothing
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> petesejt: i may suggest to comment out the cd repository, then install from the internet repositories
[15:44] <Tamin> or, perhaps more interestingly, if anyone is currently running a zd1211-based usb adapter: could I see the output of lsmod ?
[15:44] <npurciful> hello does anyone here use lvm, and know how to get gusty alternate install partitioner see pv & lv ?
[15:45] <petesejt> Waltzing: thx I give it a try.
[15:45] <Gulars> petesejt, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:45] <tsactuo> .
[15:45] <lg188> someone ca help me conecting to webnet ?
[15:46] <lg188> can*
[15:46] <kenkku> lg188: what is webnet?
[15:46] <lg188> a server
[15:48] <Tamin> Anyone?
[15:49] <kyron> Everyone? ...there a FAQ about menu entries being all screwy?
[15:49] <lg188> hwo geting wine on a kubuntu ?
[15:50] <tsb_> How do you change the height of the "external taskpar" panel?
[15:50] <kenkku> lg188: what kind of a server is webnet?
[15:51] <lg188> i got it from chatzilla
[15:51] <sparrw> !compiz
[15:51] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:51] <kenkku> lg188: it's an IRC server?
[15:51] <pavel_> can anyone help me with upgrading kubuntu from 7.04 to 7.10 ?
[15:51] <petesejt> Waltzing: thank you, removing the CD from repos solved the problem. :)
[15:51] <lg188> yes
[15:51] <lg188> kenkku:yes
[15:52] <pavel_> after i go to adept_manager and tell him to Full Upgrade and Apply changes, it downloads everything, and then it says smthing like 'Cannot install ... some packages might have been broken or they might broke some other packages'
[15:53] <kenkku> lg188: do you know the address of the server?
[15:54] <WaltzingAlong> pavel_: run from konsole or a vterminal  sudo aptitude -f install && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -y dist-upgrade
[15:55] <lg188> kenkku:not presicly
[15:55] <WaltzingAlong> pavel_: welcome
[15:55]  * lg188 looking at windows pc
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: install the package 'wine' through adept manager or sudo aptitude install wine
[15:57] <lg188> kenkku: irc.webnet.info
[15:58] <kenkku> lg188: well, then connect to it
[15:58] <kyron> WoW...There any known bugs for 7.10, I just installed it on an ACER laptop, performed some upgrades as per the package manager and now, menus are all screwed with _: Entries ... and the keyboard doesn't work O_o...
[15:58] <lg188> kenkku: ''sudo aptitude install wine'' dont work
[15:58] <kyron> anyone has suggestions?...install from another source?
[15:59] <kenkku> lg188: what does it say?
[15:59] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: need to add a repository that carries wine
[15:59] <WaltzingAlong> !wine
[15:59] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[16:00] <ubuntu> hello
[16:00] <lg188> wwomthing with archives wrong
[16:00] <lg188> something*
[16:02] <lg188> damaged filles
[16:02] <lg188> file's*
[16:02] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude install wine
[16:03] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: kmenu items? open kcontrol to configure the menu item in the panels section. click 'name only' under menu item format
[16:03] <lg188> same damagd file's
[16:04] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: which files?
[16:04] <pointwood> how do I clear any manual configuration I've done with knetworkmanager?
[16:05] <lg188> wine: Vereisten: binfmt-support (>= 1.1.2) dat een virtueel pakket is.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libasound2 (> 1.0.14) maar 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libc6 (>= 2.6-1) maar 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.4.0) maar 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.4.0) maar 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: liblcms1 (>= 1.15-1) maar 1.13-1 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libxml2 (>= 2.6.29) maar 2.6.24.dfsg-1ubuntu1 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <lg188>         Vereisten: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.20) maar 1.1.15-1ubuntu1 is geïnstalleerd.
[16:05] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, very funny...I don't feel like editing ALL the menu entries
[16:05] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, also, my keyboard doesn't work anymore..
[16:05] <lg188> geïnstaleerd means instaled
[16:05] <kyron> ...quite some bugs
[16:06] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, and both package links don't work if I click on them O_o
[16:07] <chronos> is there a way to disable shift backspace from restarting x after instaling compiz?
[16:09] <lg188> The following parcels have not-fulldone dependences:
[16:09] <lg188> The following parcels do not have satisfied dependences:
[16:09] <lg188> 0utf8
[16:10] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: are you on the livecd? are you running out of space (which means running low on ram for the livecd to use)
[16:10] <lg188> no i have isntald kubuntu full on my pc
[16:10] <lg188> not running livecd
[16:10] <kyron> ...uhm...so I am the only one experiencing problems of this sort?...no keyboard + weird menus (I suspect an upgrade that failed...)
[16:10] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: or check your /etc/apt/sources.list file to make sure you have all feisty or all gutsy and not combinations of both
[16:11] <kyron> should I re-install completely?...this sounds too windows-ish
[16:11] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: no others have the weird menus
[16:11] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: kmenu items? open kcontrol to configure the menu item in the panels section. click 'name only' under menu item format
[16:11] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, ...hmm...I'll try that...but that won't give me my keyboard back I suspect...
[16:11] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: wat looking for ?
[16:12] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you could pastebin your sources.list for inspection by those of us here to help
[16:12] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | lg188
[16:12] <ubotu> lg188: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:12] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: otherwise, looking to make sure feisty appears nowhere (if you are running gutsy)
[16:12] <lg188> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[16:12] <lg188> #deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[16:12] <lg188> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[16:12] <lg188> #deb-src http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[16:12] <lg188> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[16:12] <lg188> ## distribution.
[16:12] <lg188> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[16:12] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: oh so you are on dapper
[16:13] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: yes do not paste so many lines into the channel
[16:13] <lg188> oke i wil do not doi,gn it again
[16:13] <WaltzingAlong> :p pastebin it,
[16:13] <WaltzingAlong> !pastebin | lg188
[16:13] <ubotu> lg188: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:15] <lg188> and what doing it wit that ?
[16:15] <lg188> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/
[16:15] <tresko22> Hi! Anyone knows what this means? Oct 16 10:44:13 localhost java: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for "bluetack5.snowmanuk.net.nyud.net IN A", got type "39" -> from auth.log
[16:15] <dennister> hey channel, i'm having a bit of a prob with my partitions: awhile back my vfat parts just stopped being writable for no apparent reason, and now dolphin is reporting on exit that it can't save bookmarks: "Permission denied. This error message will only be shown once. The cause of the error needs to be fixed as quickly as possible, which is most likely a full hard drive."
[16:16] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, sorry if it's obvious but which icon will get me to the menu config in kcontrol...
[16:16] <dennister> thing is, no partitions are full (i've checked) although one partition is reported as full by winblows (it's not full)
[16:16] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: well in kcontrol, type menu in the search, one result is panel
[16:16] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, the keyboard doesn't work anymore!
[16:16] <kyron> that is my second (well...first now) problem!
[16:17] <dennister> anyone know what's going on with this inaccurate reporting?
[16:17] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: or because of wrong permissions on the file. sudo chown dennister:dennister /home/dennister -R
[16:17] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: but to start just check the file in question
[16:18] <WaltzingAlong> kyron: :D alright otherwise right mouse click on kmenu, panel menu/configure panel
[16:19] <epimeth> does anybody use TOR, and if so do you know if I should install the feisty version seeing as the only gutsy version they have is experimental?
[16:19] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/
[16:20] <kyron> WaltzingAlong, ah ok...will try that...if the laptop ever reboots O_o... quite unstable, I'm totally surprised!
[16:20] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: k, u were correct...changed perms
[16:21] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42586/
[16:21] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: thanks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42587/
[16:21] <dennister> now about the inaccurate reporting...and why parts that were writable changling all of asudden to ro status...anyone know what's going on?
[16:22] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:and whta to do with it ?
[16:22] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: make that be the new file . with the gui, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:23] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: or see in yours, most of the lines are commented out (# appears at the front)
[16:23] <WaltzingAlong> dennister: on gutsy? perhaps see kmenu/system settings/advanced/disks and partitions
[16:23] <WaltzingAlong> filesystems*
[16:23] <frojnd> How can I disable alt + left mouse ??  When  I do this I move entire window, no mather where I click. If I press alt + left click I move window. WHere can I disable this. It's annying when u use inkscape...
[16:24] <dennister> WaltzingAlong: yes, i'm on gutsy now, but quite frankly this was happening before the upgrade from feisty, too
[16:24] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: i ca'nt save it ?
[16:25] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: kmenu/system settings/keyboard and mouse/keyboard shortcuts
[16:25] <kyron> Grrr...as soon as I attempt to launch the Adept_installer, I loose keyboard functionnality...
[16:25] <kyron> quite screwy
[16:25] <dennister> and i've checked fstab, too, sda's vfat partitions were still on 'rw', just as they always had been since installation
[16:25] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: need to open it with kdesu               alt+f2    then type            kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:26] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, hm... no alt + left click
[16:26] <frojnd> :s
[16:27] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: now i save dit and what now ?
[16:28] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: now i save dit and what now ?
[16:28] <dennister> well, i've changed the owner anyway...gotta go...later
[16:28] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install
[16:28] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: or you can use adept again, whichever you like
[16:29] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, this is really sux... When I alt and left click and drag... windows moves.... is there anywhere else to check for shorcuts ?
[16:29] <lg188> agaibn a error
[16:29] <lg188> again*
[16:30] <lg188> now he is going
[16:30] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: could it be that that the wrong keyboard layout is in use by X?
[16:30] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: alright
[16:30] <frojnd> WaltzingAlong, hm... I don't think so every nuber, character is correct..
[16:31] <kyron> ok...so...kubuntu 7.10 is damaged in some sequence... I installed, opened adept to perform recommended upgrades, added proprietary drivers (modem and wifi) and now system has screwed menus and I loose the keyboard as soon as I attempt to launch adept_updater without ever getting a pop-up
[16:32] <lg188> some large list
[16:32] <lg188> but what to do now ?
[16:32] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: it is probably asking you if it is ok to install the packages needed so wine can work
[16:33] <krobbins> can i get freespire help here?
[16:33] <lg188> nothign askin to me :s
[16:33] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: never noticed that before but otherwise i do not know where to remove it
[16:33] <kyron> Geez...really takes a Gentoo Guy to screw up a Kubuntu install O_o!
[16:34] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: otherwise in window behavior
[16:35] <WaltzingAlong> frojnd: ah ha, i see it; system settings/window behavior/window actions/inner window,titlebar and frame   modifier key + left button
[16:37] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: a list apear but ther is nothing to shoose or to do it is just a new cmnd line
[16:39]  * lg188 feeling bored about siting befor pc and doing nothing only siting borin befor pc
[16:40]  * lg188 feeling bored about siting befor pc and doing nothing only siting boring befor pc*
[16:41] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: ok so maybe you have wine installed then. try   wine --version
[16:41] <debian> hello
[16:41] <mikrop> hello
[16:41] <WaltzingAlong> olleh
[16:41] <rysiek|pl> leho!
[16:41] <debian> how can i save in the newest nano? or run kate as sudo?
[16:42] <rysiek|pl> debian: kdesu kate
[16:42] <eagles0513875> i was playing around with my wifi and for some reason now on knetwork manager its not displaying my wireless card
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> sudo kate normally works for me also.
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> or checkout 'sux' :)
[16:42] <eagles0513875> same with me as well
[16:42] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: bash: wine: command not found
[16:42] <rysiek|pl> Dr_Willis: yeah, but it's better to use kdesu for graphical apps
[16:42] <debian> I know knetworkmanager runs into manual and wont come out?
[16:43] <eagles0513875> debian: how do i fix that or are there any other network managers
[16:43] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude install wine
[16:43] <debian> eagles: it is a file
[16:43] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_Willis: :( kdesu kate or kdesudo kate
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> Gnome and kde both fight over the proper name for the darn sudo tool :)
[16:44] <WaltzingAlong> debian: nano   ctrl+o to save
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> i can never rember which one it is
[16:44] <iecsam> WaltzingALong: have u used mixxx??
[16:44] <WaltzingAlong> Dr_Willis: sudo is sudo but should not be used to launch gui apps
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> which is why i use  'sux'
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> !info sux
[16:44] <ubotu> sux: wrapper around su which will transfer your X credentials. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-3.2 (gutsy), package size 8 kB, installed size 64 kB
[16:44] <WaltzingAlong> gksu with gnome and kdesu/kdesudo with kde
[16:45] <debian> eagles: two ways, go to system setting or control panel, the network and disable wireless
[16:45] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: i think its ready butt wher to find the folder ?
[16:45] <KingJere> WaltzingAlong: sorry to interupt, every guide I see on line uses apt-get. you say aptitude. I use aptitude. Is there any disadvantage to aptitude?
[16:45] <debian> or editing a file
[16:45] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: then you should be able to start it with the command 'wine'
[16:45] <TimS> Dr_Willis: Would you mind walking me through installing something from source? Before now i have been having problems, I think I am lacking things needed, but I have build essentials
[16:45] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: nope
[16:46] <debian> eagles: did that do it?
[16:46] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: somthing comming of is not a programe
[16:46] <TimS> !buildfromsource
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildfromsource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:46] <TimS> !building
[16:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about building - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:47] <llutz> !b-e
[16:47] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[16:47] <WaltzingAlong> KingJere: i prefer it and it gives a console based front end (sudo aptitude); it was more interesting a bit earlier because apt-get would not recall which packages i installed vs which were installed only to satisfy dependencies (and could therefore be removed when the package i installed was removed and no others were using the packages); also with aptitude i can search (aptitude search) or install (aptitude install) whereas with
[16:47] <WaltzingAlong> apt-get i can install but would need the to use apt-cache search to search
[16:48] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: looks bad
[16:48] <KingJere> WaltzingAlong: So in your mind theres really no disadvantage?
[16:49] <WaltzingAlong> KingJere: i have seen one argument against aptitude in that it grabs recommended packages instead of just dependencies as well (though i have not done anything to follow up on that)
[16:49] <WaltzingAlong> KingJere: and i have it configured to clear obsolete packages after an update
[16:49] <KingJere> WaltzingAlong: Thanks
[16:49] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: lnothign starting only erro mssg
[16:49] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: how so?
[16:49] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: nothing is starting only error message
[16:50] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: which program did you want to run with wine? what happened with   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine  ?
[16:51] <atlfalcons866> how do install dolphin kde4 version
[16:52] <mikrop> sudo apt-get install dolphin
[16:52] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:This solution accept? [ Y/n/q /?
[16:52] <iecsam> WaltzingAlong: hav u used Songbird
[16:52] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: follow the kde4beta3 install guide on kubuntu.org   then when you get that, you can launch the apps via their full path /usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin  for example
[16:52] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: i have
[16:52] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: Y
[16:53] <atlfalcons866> will installing kde4 break my installtion
[16:53] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: have it installed on an ms windows machine until amarok is available on ms windows
[16:53] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:Do you want go further? [ Y/n /?
[16:53] <Dr_Willis> I like songbird :) i like it even better now that i learned how to make it load up normal firefox extensions..  Like adblock
[16:53] <carwash^> i have huge problems with kde4. plasma runs at 100% cpu usage all the time
[16:53] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: you can install kde4 along side kde3.5.8 and kubuntu
[16:53] <iecsam> it doesn't play any songs on my kubuntu WaltzingALong
[16:53] <iecsam> do u know why it is?
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> iecsam: perhaps ask generally or ask Dr_Willis as it seems Dr_Willis has it working
[16:54] <atlfalcons866> like installing gnome
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: right
[16:54] <atlfalcons866> and running that as a seperate session
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> It may need the various codecs.
[16:54] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: you could run an entire session of it or just some apps from it
[16:54] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:54] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[16:55] <Dr_Willis> that package should get most of the codecs and things for you
[16:55] <atlfalcons866> nothing bad will happen
[16:55] <atlfalcons866> ?
[16:55] <eagles0513875> what other network managers r there
[16:56] <W8TAH> ive a comptuer that when ever i try to do the adept update it tells me that it cant cuz it will break other packages -- how do i resolve this?
[16:56] <eagles0513875> !aptfix |w8tah
[16:56] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: which packages?
[16:56] <ubotu> w8tah: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:56] <W8TAH> WaltzingAlong: it doesnt say
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: updates to certain versions are not available because they leave the system in a broken state as dependencies are not available in the repositories?
[16:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:Do you want go further? [ Y/n /?
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: the version upgrade from feisty to gutsy or just a normal one
[16:57] <W8TAH> eagles0513875: the database does not appear to be locked -- i can install other packages through synaptic or command line
[16:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: Y
[16:57] <W8TAH> just a normal one
[16:58] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:it is done but
[16:58] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:inothing works
[16:58] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: wine --version
[16:58] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:bash: wine: command not found
[16:58] <W8TAH> WaltzingAlong: if the updates are not available, why are they listed in adept and why am i notified that i have to install them?
[16:58] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you can also follow the instructions at http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[16:59] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:kk
[16:59] <atlfalcons866> how many files does kde4 have
[16:59] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: the update to firefox may be available in the repos but it requires an update to something else and that updated something else is not available
[16:59] <TimS> Why does Kubuntu not have any of the KDE packages like Core installed?
[16:59] <atlfalcons866> i only have 100k inodes left
[16:59] <W8TAH> ok - -so basically my system is hozed?
[16:59] <TimS> Also, Is KDE-devel needed to make and compile programs
[16:59] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: kde (all of kde), kde-core, kubuntu-desktop, oh and another one
[17:00] <atlfalcons866> TimS: yes
[17:00] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: not necessarily. run sudo apt-get -f install (or sudo aptitude -f install) from konsole
[17:00] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:but i dont understand a .... of it
[17:00] <W8TAH> ok - thanks
[17:00] <atlfalcons866> TimS: you will also need to install build-essential to make and make install
[17:00] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you are using dapper so scroll to the section about dapper
[17:00] <WaltzingAlong> lg188:  then in konsole type (paste)    wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[17:01] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: (should show OK) and in konsole   wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[17:02] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:acces denied
[17:02] <eagles0513875> lg188: make sure u put sudo before it
[17:02] <lg188> 'sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list'
[17:02] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sorry, yes                    sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[17:03] <atlfalcons866> is anyone using KDE4 right now?
[17:04] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:? what doing r expating
[17:05] <TimS> WaltzingAlong: I am compiling a program and it has told me su -c "make install", but the su authentification always fails. Is this my normal password?
[17:05] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:? what doing or exepting ?
[17:05] <cristian> I wana install theme Mac for kubuntu 7.10
[17:05] <hydrogen> TimS: use sudo
[17:05] <hydrogen> sudo make install
[17:05] <TimS> Okay
[17:05] <cristian> where I found it?
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> cristian: there are many guides that can walk you through that. ask google
[17:06] <TimS> Awesome :D
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: ? do you have just the prompt $ again? try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine          again
[17:06] <atlfalcons866> do how do i run kde4 i installed it and i dont see it as a session
[17:06] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: no su turns into superuser but is disabled by default in ubuntu
[17:06] <cristian> #join kubuntuchile
[17:07] <cristian> #join /kubuntuchile
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: the instructions show you how. you need to make a session of it
[17:07] <TimS> Okay, So I did make install, how can I test to see if the package was correctly installed?
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> run it?
[17:08] <atlfalcons866> i dont get this
[17:08] <atlfalcons866> o run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop, edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4", put the four export lines at the top of /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde and start a new session in KDM with KDE 4.
[17:08] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php especially the 4 export lines, the startkde file, and the copying/editing of the session file
[17:08] <TimS> Dr_Willis: I installed a kicker applet but it never showed up
[17:08] <atlfalcons866> what does it mean at the top
[17:08] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: right so open the file /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde      then at the top (top of the file/first lines) put those 4 export lines
[17:08] <atlfalcons866> ok
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> TimS you may need to restart KDE, or its possible it dident install to the proper place. I recall having to use the prefix option with some kde sources
[17:09] <atlfalcons866> but 1st i have to put those commands into the konsole
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: no.
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: those lines set some environment variables
[17:09] <atlfalcons866> how do i copy those i cant copy stuff into /
[17:09] <TimS> Dr_Willis: I used the prefix option as described in the README
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: make them be the first 4 lines of the startkde  file
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> atlfalcons866  you will need to use sudo to alter system files
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> or the kde equilivent
[17:10] <atlfalcons866> like kdesu
[17:10] <atlfalcons866> kdesu konqoruer?
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: in konsole? sudo cp /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop
[17:10] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: or yes you could do that
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> its well worth learning how to do rooty things from the shell. :)
[17:10] <Dr_Willis> or use mc. :) heh.
[17:11] <TimS> Dr_Willis: Also whereis kima returns nothing
[17:11] <TimS> I am now confused :D
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> TimS a panel applet is not in the normal PATH
[17:11] <atlfalcons866> i get cp: cannot stat `/usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop': No such file or directory
[17:12] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: still installing or already installed?
[17:12] <atlfalcons866> already installed
[17:13] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: on gutsy or feisty?
[17:13] <atlfalcons866> gutsy
[17:13] <atlfalcons866> oh i didnt have kdebase-workspace
[17:13] <atlfalcons866> installed
[17:13] <WaltzingAlong> need that
[17:13] <atlfalcons866> installing right now
[17:13] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 final be in gutsy?
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: backported to gutsy? through kubuntu.org repos? i would think so
[17:14] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:kk
[17:14] <atlfalcons866> backported from Hardy?
[17:14] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: still no wine?
[17:14] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:nope
[17:14] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:doeing   sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/dapper.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[17:15] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: well it is there now, ;) in beta3 fashion so yeah i would think final would make its way there too
[17:15] <atlfalcons866> ok
[17:15] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: ok and after that you see OK ?
[17:15] <atlfalcons866> will kde4 be included in kubuntu 8.04 or will it have to downloaded sepratly
[17:15] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:still bussy with it
[17:15] <lg188> getting some food
[17:15] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: i do not think it will be in 8.04 as 8.04 is the next LTS release but will be available for 8.04
[17:16] <TimS> X just restarted itself
[17:16] <atlfalcons866> ok
[17:17] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:nope no ok :(
[17:19] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: its getting anoying that wine thing butt i  need it
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> lg188:  :D
[17:19] <Solifugus> big problem--ssh on my kubuntu seems to stall after a while into copying files off..  meaning, i cannot backup my compter.
[17:19] <Solifugus> ssh is somehow broken
[17:19] <eagles0513875> lg188: go to www.winehq.com
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you can download the deb directly
[17:19] <eagles0513875> lg188: whats annoying u
[17:20] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: that is so long  befor i get wine
[17:20] <Solifugus> I've tried sshing to three different machines and its definitely my kubuntu laptop that has the issue.. kubuntu ssh is broken.
[17:20] <cyboreal> I can't print from any Java applications using either /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java or /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java or /usr/bin/gij-4.2. What gives?
[17:20] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: deb ?
[17:20] <cyboreal> I'm using Kubuntu 7.10
[17:20] <eagles0513875> lg188: the debian pkg
[17:20] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[17:20] <Mike____> hello all
[17:21] <lg188> hi mike
[17:21] <Mike____> i have a question... does kubuntu 7.10 have stfs write support?
[17:21] <Mike____> ntfs*
[17:21] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: ty
[17:21] <jermain> hi everyone
[17:21] <WaltzingAlong> Mike____: yes
[17:21] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: what to do with it ?
[17:21] <WaltzingAlong> !ntfs-3g | Mike____
[17:21] <ubotu> Mike____: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[17:22] <cyboreal> Solifugus, are you using fish:// from Konqueror or scp from the command line?
[17:22] <Mike____> thanks
[17:22] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: save it. then install it
[17:22] <Mike____> i'll update my kubuntu right now :D
[17:22] <Mike____> bye bye
[17:22] <jermain> I said "Hi"! Acknowledge my greetings with an appropriate response! Grrr..
[17:22] <jermain> :)
[17:22] <WaltzingAlong> jermain: !seen everyone
[17:22] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: error
[17:22] <jermain> :)
[17:23] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: error during the save?
[17:23] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: saving .... kk
[17:23] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: opening
[17:23] <lg188> during openning
[17:23] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: opening with what?
[17:23] <lg188> that file was auto
[17:23] <jermain> is it possible to use unix to tell Kate to open a .txt?
[17:23] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: ok open konsole. type       wget -c http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[17:23] <cyboreal> jermain, right click, choose Open With...
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> jermain: unix?
[17:24] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: downloading
[17:24] <jermain> bash
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: when it finishes, in the same konsole type    sudo dpkg -i wine_0.9.47~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb
[17:24] <WaltzingAlong> jermain: you can have kde associate the type like cyboreal mentioned
[17:25] <tehk> Any suggestions for a SIP client
[17:25] <jermain> oh thats not what i want, i want to do it from konsole
[17:25] <Solifugus> cyboreal: both.. it fails on both.. well.. i tried both to one server.. and only fish to the other two servers.
[17:25] <cyboreal> jermain: kate /path/to/file.txt
[17:25] <atlfalcons866> i dont see kde4 in the session select
[17:25] <jermain> :P ty ^^
[17:25] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: downloading
[17:26] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: in konsole
[17:26]  * jermain hands cyboreal chocolate chip cookie
[17:26] <cyboreal> lol
[17:27] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: alright so you copied the file which before gave the issue? then you edit the kde4.desktop, as mentioned in the instructions, changing the one entry from KDE to KDE4
[17:27] <cyboreal> Solifugus, how much data are you copying?
[17:27] <cyboreal> large files?
[17:27]  * lg188 try to steel chocolate chip cookie
[17:27] <atlfalcons866>  edit the Name entry in kde4.desktop to be called "KDE 4
[17:27] <Solifugus> cyboreal: trying to copy off a about 160GB so I can install the new kubuntu
[17:27] <atlfalcons866> i did that\
[17:27] <atlfalcons866> i named it to KDE 4 is it suppose to be KDE 4.desktop
[17:28]  * jermain sends domokun at lg188
[17:28] <atlfalcons866> am i suppose to restart my computer
[17:28] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: kk i did evrything
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: should not need to restart the computer
[17:28] <Solifugus> cyboreal: also.. large files do copy ok through konqueror using smb://...
[17:28] <lg188> domokun ???
[17:28] <cyboreal> Solifugus, what version of kubuntu is having the problem?
[17:28] <jermain> yay it works
[17:28] <jermain> i am happy now
[17:28] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: and what happened with dpkg -i wine ... ? any problems?   or type            wine --version
[17:28] <jermain> thanks again cybo
[17:28] <cyboreal> np
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> #!/bin/sh
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> #export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/lib
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> #export KDEDIRS=/usr/lib/kde4
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> #export PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/bin/:$PATH
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> #export KDEHOME=~/.kde4
[17:29] <atlfalcons866> is that right
[17:29] <Solifugus> cyboreal: fiesty fawn
[17:29] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:got it
[17:29] <Solifugus> cyboreal: not being able to backup is truly worrying me
[17:29] <lg188> 0.9.47
[17:29] <cyboreal> Solifugus, it would worry me too :-)
[17:30] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:ty
[17:30] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:only cant run it i didi win command
[17:30] <lg188> wine*
[17:30] <nacholibre_> How 2 delete hidden files from trash?
[17:31] <cyboreal> Solifugus, you can scp from another box and it works? Are you sure it's not the ssh server? Enough space on the target disk? etc
[17:31] <Solifugus> cyboreal: scp to copy stuff into my laptop works fine.. i do it a lot.
[17:31] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: those 4 lines go at the top of the startkde, yeah
[17:31] <lg188> WaltzingAlong:only cant run it i typt wine
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude -f install
[17:32] <cyboreal> nacholibre_ have you tried going to trash:/ in konqueror then View -> Show Hidden Files and deleting them?
[17:32] <Solifugus> cyboreal: if its the ssh server, then it's occuring on 3 different servers.. one gentoo, one rhel, and another fiesty fawn
[17:32] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: did it
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: but they should not be commented out
[17:32] <nacholibre_> @ cyboreal ...not yet :S mom
[17:32] <cyboreal> fascinating
[17:32] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: and the results?
[17:33] <cyboreal> Solifugus, any error message when it dies?
[17:33] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: a large list
[17:33] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: of hidden packages
[17:33] <atlfalcons866> ok i will try now
[17:34] <nacholibre_> @ cyboreal: I get the following error code  rm: cannot remove `/home/nacholibre/.Trash/*': No such file or directory
[17:34] <Solifugus> cyboreal: konqueror just says stalled... If i remember correctly, command line scp just hangs but the file size doesn't increase..
[17:34] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: or holded back
[17:34] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: so wine is still not working?         what about               sudo aptitude upgrade
[17:35]  * lg188 loooking in room for some ffod
[17:35] <cyboreal> Solifugus, pretty wierd. If I were you, i'd think about using Ethereal/Wireshark to watch the packet flow and see what happens when it dies... or check the sshd logs on the server?
[17:35] <v3ctor> Solifugus: one file? or a directory?
[17:35] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: continu y/n/?
[17:35] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: to upgrade those packages Y
[17:36] <cyboreal> nacholibre_ does `ls -la ~/.Trash` show anything in the the directory?
[17:36] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: ok bussy
[17:36] <atlfalcons866> i cant run kde4 still
[17:38] <nacholibre_> @ cyboreal : NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY
[17:38] <Exilant> What's up with kqemu in gutsy?
[17:38] <cyboreal> does ~/.Trash exist?
[17:38] <Solifugus> v3ctor: directory with many files
[17:38] <v3ctor> did you try rsync?
[17:38] <nacholibre_> mmh...i look
[17:38] <lg188>  sombody knowing some games ?
[17:38] <Solifugus> cyboreal: i will check the ssh logs.. and maybe try to setup an ftp server..
[17:38] <Exilant> there is no /dev/kqemu, no kqemo.ko...
[17:39] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: kdm gets it list of sessions from /usr/share/sessions  so the file /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop should be there
[17:39] <WaltzingAlong> !games
[17:39] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[17:39] <cyboreal> Solifugus, good luck
[17:39] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: give kbuildsycoca a run
[17:39] <nacholibre_> cyboreal - Now I get the Error code: /*/*/.local/share/Trash/files/game does not exist.
[17:40] <WaltzingAlong> atlfalcons866: otherwise you should be able to run individual applications through /usr/lib/kde4/bin/
[17:40] <atlfalcons866> Waltzingalong: that folder dosent exist
[17:40] <lg188> of doing this a geting bored
[17:40] <cyboreal> nacholibre_ what does `file ~/.Trash` give you?
[17:40] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: yeah sorry i have to go for now
[17:41] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: ok
[17:41] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: not good
[17:41] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: not help
[17:41] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: whein
[17:41]  * nacholibre_ /home/nacholibre/.Trash: ERROR: cannot open `/home/nacholibre/.Trash' (No such file or directory)
[17:41] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: anyone in here should be able to help you install wine on your dapper machine
[17:41] <lg188> WaltzingAlong: kk
[17:42] <lg188> somebody continu helping me ?
[17:43] <lg188> im bussy with updating wine
[17:44] <lg188> +75 files
[17:44] <lg188> is it normal ?
[17:44] <alejandro> do u play ragnarok n wine?
[17:45] <lg188> alejondr: ragnarok ?
[17:45] <lg188> alejondro: ragnarok ?
[17:45] <lg188> +80 files
[17:45] <cyboreal> nacholibre_ somehow your ~/.Trash directory got deleted. Maybe try `mkdir ~/.Trash` to recreate it?
[17:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> lg188: He's talking about Ragnarok Online, an online massively multiplayer RPG
[17:46] <lg188> BonesolTeraDyne: nope
[17:46] <lg188> nope
[17:47] <lg188> alejondro: nope
[17:47] <alejandro> raganarok online
[17:47] <alejandro> u.u
[17:47] <nacholibre_> cyboreal : After created ~/.Trash i get: "The file or folder /home/XXX/.local/share/Trash/files/game does not exist."
[17:48] <shinobi> can anyone tell me how to call functions from the fusion-icon application via a keystroke
[17:48] <cyboreal> nacholibre_: what are you doing that gives you that?
[17:48] <nacholibre_> Puh... I dunno...#
[17:49] <nacholibre_> Ah!
[17:49] <lg188> helping me is always welcome
[17:49] <nacholibre_> I believe that I compieled some programs and these are the containing folders... .
[17:49] <nacholibre_> Could that be the problem of it all?
[17:49] <__jonathan> hi
[17:50] <cyboreal> nacholibre_: now that i think of it, i think ~/.Trash is for GNOME and ~/.local/share/Trash is KDE...
[17:50] <nacholibre_> :D
[17:50] <nacholibre_> Sry, my fault!
[17:50] <nacholibre_> Do you know the command for deleting the trash over bash for kde?
[17:51] <__jonathan> I have an Xorg crash at startup just after the nvidia driver loads ( i can see nvidia's boot logo) & this occurs as I failed upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy
[17:51] <nacholibre_> sudo rm -R ...
[17:51] <nacholibre_> ?
[17:51] <cyboreal> I wouldn't sudo it...
[17:51] <nacholibre_> :D
[17:51] <nacholibre_> It works!
[17:52] <nacholibre_> THANK YOU MUCH!
[17:52] <nacholibre_> Now I have to write done the command three times... . Like I did learned my vocabularies in school ;)
[17:53] <cyboreal> np... you do know that going to trash:/ in Konqueror and right clicking gives you the "Empty Trash" option, right?
[17:54] <lg188> helping me is always welcome
[17:54] <nacholibre_> Right!
[17:55] <nacholibre_> Isn't it good for kde?
[17:56] <jari> hey, does any one know if OS matters for the headphone set's microphone? for some reason I cant get any input from the microphone
[17:56] <lg188> how many files have wine ?
[17:56] <eagles0513875> lg188: what r u having issues with
[17:56] <eagles0513875> lg188: wine to 2 mins for me to download and install
[17:57] <lg188> how many FILES have wine ?
[17:58] <eagles0513875> lg188: dont know why do u want to know how many files it has
[17:59] <lg188> beacaues it loook menay and i can check how meany to do
[17:59] <eagles0513875> lg188: ask in this chanel
[17:59] <lg188> and how long for it
[17:59] <eagles0513875> lg188: *channel #winhq
[17:59] <eagles0513875> lg188: *channel #winehq
[17:59] <eagles0513875> lg188: thats the channel for wine related questions the 2nd one
[17:59] <lg188> kk
[17:59] <lg188> ty
[18:00] <eagles0513875> lg188: no prob this is just kubuntu issue channel
[18:02] <venik> I was using Kubuntu 7.10 when it FROZE-- I could not revive it no matter what key combination I tried.  I have to restart my computer from the power switch.  Has anyone else seen such a thing?
[18:04] <genii> venik: Yes, I was having same issue on Asus P5K SE motherboard
[18:04] <akrus> is it okay that compiz is not working? :x
[18:05] <venik> this was on a Dell Dimension 4550.  I rebooted into XP on the same machine, and saw no problem.  Tried to reboot into Kubuntu, and it froze in mid process, but when I tried again it worked just fine.  I am puzzled (and worried)
[18:06] <venik> I am writing this now from teh Kubuntu partition on the same Dell Dimension 4550
[18:08] <genii> venik: I found manually making it use sata_mv module in my case and going to the 2.6.22-14 kernel helped somewhat. But this module is for Marvell SATA controller, i do not know if that is what is on your system or not.
[18:08] <venik> another (milder) problem I have is that the sounds from Kopete disappear from time to time, requiring a restarting of Kubuntu to revive them
[18:09] <lg188> is it normal that you cnat read your hotmail mails on a kubunt pc ?
[18:09] <lg188> ca'nt*
[18:09]  * lg188 brb
[18:09] <ahlaad> how to update kde prog[am
[18:10] <ahlaad> programme
[18:11] <genii> ahlaad: bah he left
[18:11] <Rob_bob> hey
[18:11]  * genii sips a coffee
[18:12] <Rob_bob> I have a huge problem
[18:12] <Rob_bob> the only thing I hear when a sound plays
[18:12] <Rob_bob> is static
[18:12]  * lg188 needs a lot of cookies
[18:13] <Rob_bob> I'm using gutsy gibbon and I didn't have this problem with fiesty fawn
[18:13] <Rob_bob> my computer is an HP Pavillion dv6433cl
[18:13] <Tm_T> Rob_bob: what soundchip?
[18:13] <teeahr1> hey all.  i'm trying to add the fluxbuntu cd as a repository to my kubuntu install, but i get an error that says "Error scanning the CD E:Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2), W:Signature verification failed for: /cdrom/dists/gutsy/Release.gpg"  what's with that?
[18:14] <LogicalDash> When I insert my thumb drive, the icon for it appears in the taskbar, but I have to specifically tell it to mount before I can access it. How do I get it to mount automatically?
[18:18] <lg188> someno knows what CVS means ?
[18:18] <dpozega> Concurrent Versions System
[18:19] <dpozega> believe it or not its the first result on google :|
[18:19] <Rob_bob> Tm_T sorry for the delay it's an Altec Lansing  card
[18:21]  * lg188 need cookie
[18:21]  * Rob_bob gives lg188 a cookie
[18:21] <lg188> :)
[18:21]  * lg188 smile
[18:22] <lg188> ty
[18:22] <lg188> ^^
[18:22] <pedahzur> Greetings.  I did an upgrade from Feisty to Gutsy last night, and all seems to be working OK, except for the fact that I can't start kmail.  I get symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN11KFolderTree13addSizeColumnERK7QStringi  If it matters, I had the 3.5.8 packages for feisty installed before, but I thought it removed all those.
[18:22] <Rob_bob> np
[18:22] <lg188> greet
[18:23] <ardchoille> teeahr1: Why are you adding it as a repo? Everything that is on that cd is in the repos anyway
[18:23] <teeahr1> ardchoille: not the fluxbuntu-desktop stuff
[18:24] <ardchoille> teeahr1: Like what?
[18:24] <ardchoille> teeahr1: There is a lot of fluxbox stuff in the repos
[18:25] <alumno_> 4 8 15 16 23 42
[18:26]  * dpozega is leaving this channel ...
[18:26] <ardchoille> alumno_: Perhaps you meant that for #lottery ? lol
[18:26] <teeahr1> ardchoille: i specifically want the fluxbuntu-desktop, fluxbuntu-default-settings, and fluxbuntu-artwork packages
[18:26] <venik> tg188> I have no problem reading hotmail emails using Kubuntu 7.10 with Opera
[18:28] <Rob_bob> anyone?
[18:28] <lg188> i use kubuntu's default
[18:28] <Rob_bob> I have an Altec Lansing sound card and all I get is static, at first when I was installing I didn't but now I do
[18:28] <ardchoille> teeahr1: I stand corrected, they're not in the repos
[18:28] <lg188> but  i need to instal a laucnge pack with the command :'sudo apt-get install kde-ll8n-nl'
[18:29] <lg188> for a a duth
[18:30] <lg188> dutch*
[18:31] <TameLion> evenin all o/
[18:31] <lg188> ?
[18:32]  * lg188 brb
[18:32] <Rob_bob> dear god
[18:32] <Rob_bob> I need sound
[18:32] <DeadJones> rob check the cables
[18:32] <Rob_bob> it's a laptop
[18:33] <philphoto> hola.  I'm trying to use Alien to convert an rpm into a .deb.  do I have to specify a file path?
[18:33] <DeadJones> phil, alien /path/path/file.rpm generally works
[18:33] <ardchoille> philphoto: That's quite dangerous
[18:33] <Kobol> I can't login to Linux now :( At the login screen, I type in my password (Everything correctly) and the screen goes black, then back the login screen? :( Any ideas.
[18:33] <ardchoille> !alien | philphoto
[18:33] <ubotu> philphoto: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[18:33] <philphoto> why is that?
[18:33] <DeadJones> but ur better off compiling fro source
[18:34]  * lg188 needs a cookie with chocolat
[18:34] <Rob_bob> !alsa
[18:34] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[18:34] <philphoto> ok well I want to get a scanner running & need to install two packages.
[18:35] <ardchoille> philphoto: If that converted .deb has files that replace some files you already have, but at a higher or lower version, then you will end up breaking things.
[18:35] <ardchoille> philphoto: Which packages?
[18:35] <dthacker-work> why in the world do I need a default gateway adress when I set an interface to DHCP?
[18:36] <Kobol> I'm using Kubuntu Fiesty, I'm not really wanting to reinstall, again, since I've done it 6 times :P But...Gutsy is supposedly more stable, yes?
[18:36] <philphoto> I do have access to the source but have no experience compiling.
[18:36] <ardchoille> philphoto: Which packages?
[18:36] <lg188> how to instal java on my pc ?
[18:36] <ardchoille> !java | lg188
[18:36] <ubotu> lg188: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[18:36] <philphoto> the packages are avasys iscan files
[18:37] <dthacker-work> !java | lg188
[18:37] <ubotu> lg188: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[18:37] <ardchoille> philphoto: You're better off compiling.
[18:38] <lg188> i use kubuntu 6.10 no java ?
[18:38] <philphoto> ok.  how to go about that?  never compiled from source before
[18:38] <ardchoille> lg188: The bot has posted info for java twice
[18:38] <philphoto> the source file is tar.gz
[18:38] <ardchoille> !compile | philphoto
[18:38] <ubotu> philphoto: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[18:39] <Rob_bob> I hafta
[18:39] <Rob_bob> go
[18:39] <Rob_bob> bbl
[18:40] <Kobol> Can someone help me with my login issues please?
[18:40] <petesejt> at least we'll try
[18:41] <petesejt> I got useful help in 2 mins
[18:42] <Kobol> Well...All of a sudden I can't even login to Kubuntu :( Every time I try it flashes a blank screen and goes back to the login :(
[18:43] <lg188> kk let it
[18:44] <lg188> i need a dutch launge pack
[18:44] <lg188> 'sudo apt-get install kde-ll8n-nl' from my source but i wo'nt work
[18:45] <vzduch> s/ll8n/i18n/
[18:45] <genii> yes, spelling
[18:45] <grul> how do you search and replace all in vim? sorry for being a little off topic
[18:49]  * Kobol weeps.
[18:50] <philphoto> ok, I have the source tar.gz unpacked    ouch.
[18:50] <dthacker-work> Kobol: what was the last thing you changed.
[18:52] <jhealey> llo
[18:53] <dthacker-work> I have completely given on on the GUI network utilities and and now editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand.
[18:53] <Kobol> dthacker-work: Uhm...I didn't change anything recently? Last change I made was installing Firefox I believe :P The only weird thing I had is when I tried to start WoW through WINE it locked up the system, but...I just shrugged it aside, and went to bed, now I can't even get on?
[18:53]  * lg188 need coockie
[18:54] <ardchoille> lg188:  kde-i18n-nl
[18:54] <dthacker-work> Kobol: have you rebooted?  Is the problem still there after a reboot?
[18:54] <Kobol> dthacker-work: Yes :(
[18:55] <dthacker-work> Kobol: is the machine on a network. Can you log into it remotely?
[18:56] <Kobol> dthacker-work: One thing I found on the Kubuntu forums, is a thread about the exact same problem...but...His is related to lack of space? I've used MAYBE 12 gigs of the 80 gig hard drive :P
[18:56] <philphoto> so for someone with very little shell experience and none compiling, should I undertake this compiling of a package to get one of my scanners working?  how much can I break if I screw it up?
[18:56] <Kobol> dthacker-work: No, Kubuntu is just on a seperate hard drive.
[18:56] <dthacker-work> Kobol: do you get a KDE login screen?
[18:57] <Kobol> dthacker-work: Yes. When I login (Correct information and all) I get a black screen for like...2 seconds, then it goes back to the login, as if I never even logged in :P
[18:58] <dthacker-work> Kobol: you are going to have to boot from the live CD, mount your drive, and look at the logs and disk to see what is wrong.  Unfortunately I cannot stay online to help you.
[18:58] <dthacker-work> !rescue
[18:58] <ubotu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"
[18:58] <pavel_> WaltzingAlong: Hi, i did what you said, my internet connection was lost but now it works again
[18:59] <dthacker-work> Kobol: start with the rescue a broken system option.
[18:59] <dthacker-work> and good luck!
[18:59] <Kobol> dthacker-work: Alright, will do: Thanks.
[18:59] <pavel_> WaltzingAlong: so, it seems to have installed it, even dought i don't think it has every package that gutsy has
[18:59] <pavel_> WaltzingAlong: when I try to go to adept_manager again and tell him to Full Upgrade it sais : There was an error commiting changes.   I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???
[19:08] <dthacker-work> epimeth: This is so hilarious.  I deleted eth1 from /etc/network/interfaces and KNetWorkManager picked up my wireless NIC! I'm amazed!
[19:09] <lg188> no i cant
[19:09] <epimeth> dthacker-work: makes perfect sence.  KNetworkManager gets its data from interfaces and probably sets some defaults if nothing is there
[19:09] <dthacker-work> epimeth: do you know where KNM stores settings?
[19:10] <epimeth> dthacker-work: I searched for about an hour before I gave up
[19:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> lg188: that wasn't what i asked
[19:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> what are you running to try and start wine?
[19:11] <dthacker-work> epimeth: LOL, ah the mystery!   oh,well, tonight I'll implement your trick for the wired NIC.  Thanks again.
[19:11] <lg188> where can i see if it's runnening ?
[19:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> ...again, that was not the question
[19:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> what are you running to try and start wine?
[19:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> what is the command you're using?
[19:12] <lg188> just wine
[19:12] <lg188> kk
[19:13] <[ifr0g]> Everytime i play any video i get a scrambled green screen.. ??
[19:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> okay
[19:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> if you're just typing wine, it won't work
[19:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> you have to follow that with the executable you want to run
[19:13] <[ifr0g]> But if i restart x everything is fine..
[19:13] <Daisuke_Laptop> more help at winehq.com and probably #wine
[19:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> nope, not #wine
[19:14] <epimeth> dthacker-work: again, no worries :-)
[19:14] <epimeth> sooooo....
[19:14] <epimeth> has anyone installed the java6-sdk?  I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???
[19:15] <ubuntu_> Hello!
[19:15] <lg188> i treid but wo'nt work
[19:15] <tmf> Hello
[19:16] <omar> Hola, acabo de instalar kubuntu gutsy y no puedo montar una partición fat32 alguna ayuda??
[19:16] <ubuntu_> ere nan svensk har_
[19:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> !en
[19:16] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[19:18] <t3ch13> I am having a wired wireless problem in Kubuntu and I know it's not the card because it works on another wireless point. I was thinking it might be the length of the key but I can't connect. The key has 30 characters
[19:18] <Rob_bob> hello?
[19:18] <t3ch13> Hello
[19:18] <omar> hello, I just installed kubuntu gutsy, and I am having problems mounting a fat 32 patition, any help??
[19:19] <Rob_bob> I'm reinstalling Kubuntu 7.10... all this stuff wiith my audio card is too hard
[19:20] <t3ch13> I can't access wireless at work but it works fine at home it's wpa on both the difference the key is shorter at home anybody have any ideas?
[19:21] <eindbaas> Hi! I'm installing kubuntu 7.10 from the livecd, but the installation got stuck at 94% "Configuring hardware..", any ideas?
[19:21] <t3ch13> How long has it been on 94% eindbaas
[19:22] <eindbaas> Around 10 minutes now, but I've tried installing it three times before, and it get's stuck on 94% every time.
[19:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> then there's hardware it doesn't like...
[19:23] <eindbaas> Strange, the feisty fawn installation went without a glitch.
[19:23] <t3ch13> I had it sit for like 2 minutes
[19:24] <eindbaas> Now the system totally crashed because I tried to open the kicker menu.
[19:24] <t3ch13> If feisty was installed you should have been able to do a network upgrade
[19:24] <t3ch13> This darn wireless problem is baffeling me
[19:24] <eindbaas> I tried that, the upgrade wasnt really working so I decided to do a clean install.
[19:25] <eindbaas> I also tried a text based install, but as soon as it's trying to install the base system it says "it cant figure out how to read from the cd".
[19:25] <eindbaas> Something along those lines :D
[19:26] <t3ch13> Did you try the cd on another system?
[19:26] <epimeth> has anyone installed the java6-sdk?  I was just given icedtea-java7 instead???
[19:27] <eindbaas> Hmm no, but I did try the desktop cd, the alternative cd and the DVD versions.
[19:27] <eindbaas> Maybe it's because I'm burning the cd image to a dvd and it doesnt like that.
[19:27] <lg188> beuy
[19:27] <atomicpotato> I've been using public terminals for a month now. Anything different in Gutsy that wasn't present in beta1?
[19:27] <petesejt> eindbaas: are u sure the cd is ok?
[19:28] <petesejt> all three versions stuck at 94% ?
[19:28] <eindbaas> yeah, well if i do a text based install it says it cant figure out how to read from the cd
[19:28] <eindbaas> but i'm wondering maybe it's because i'm using a dvd instead of cd (i ran out of empty cd's)
[19:29] <petesejt> strange...
[19:29] <petesejt> do u have any add-on cards on ur system? (tv-tuner, or so)
[19:30] <eindbaas> no it's a laptop
[19:30] <petesejt> ok then. is ur bios set to factory defaults?
[19:30] <atomicpotato> !u
[19:30] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[19:30] <eindbaas> the only difference i know of with my feisty fawn installation is that it is using xserver-xorg-video-intel instead of xserver-xorg-video-i810 for the graphics card driver
[19:32] <lg188> hey
[19:32] <SpoZen> hey does anyone know how to change audio device in kde system settnings?
[19:32] <lg188> idk
[19:32]  * lg188 need a cookie
[19:32] <atomicpotato> under sound system, isn't it?
[19:32]  * lg188 brb
[19:34] <Tm_T> lg188: less noise is possibility?
[19:34] <semistud2354> is it possible to reinstall grub from adept
[19:34] <lg188> only Inglish here
[19:35] <semistud2354> and if it is will it be a fresh one...not like...just reinstalls and picks up the traits from previous grub
[19:35] <Tm_T> lg188: er?
[19:35] <lg188> kk i get it
[19:35] <Mike____> hello all
[19:35] <Mike____> i have a question
[19:35] <Iradigalesc> Hello! I get a error message «Inapropiate ioctl for screen device» when I halt my computer...
[19:35] <t3ch13> I'm giving up on this wireless problem.
[19:35] <SpoZen> i can just choose alsa and shit like that i wanna select my soundcard its listed as a USB device in gnome
[19:36] <Iradigalesc> The computer works well, but I don't get this error in feisty (it's new of gusty)
[19:36] <petesejt> eindbaas: Is the BIOS Virus Check or MBR write set to off?
[19:36] <Mike____> i downloaded the alternate cd to upgrade my 6.07 kubuntu
[19:36] <Mike____> how do i upgrade it now?
[19:37] <atomicpotato> 6.07?
[19:37] <Mike____> sorry 7 and a bit
[19:37] <Mike____> 7.04 i think
[19:38] <Mike____> feisty fawn
[19:38] <petesejt> eindbaas: Look what I have found: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589805 Probably the log will help you.
[19:38] <semistud2354> if anyone has a problem with bcm4318 cards i know how to fix them in gutsy/feisty
[19:38] <petesejt> eindbaas: The same problem discussed.
[19:38] <MilesG> hey i am playing supertux and i found a secret passage on the 4th level
[19:38] <atomicpotato> Mike____, there's an upgrade script on the root of the disc
[19:38] <atomicpotato> run it from a console
[19:39] <Mike____> how do i run it?
[19:39] <eindbaas> petesejt: cool, thanks
[19:39] <Mike____> i'm new to linux..
[19:39] <eindbaas> i'm not running the install again while doing tail /var/log/syslog
[19:39] <MilesG> !hi
[19:39] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[19:39] <eindbaas> not = now
[19:39] <eindbaas> :P
[19:39] <MilesG> !hi | Mike____
[19:39] <ubotu> Mike____: please see above
[19:39] <MilesG> !hi | eagles0513875
[19:39] <ubotu> eagles0513875: please see above
[19:39] <atomicpotato> !terminal | Mike____
[19:39] <ubotu> Mike____: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:39] <Tm_T> MilesG: please stop bot abuse
[19:39] <eagles0513875> MilesG: am i in trouble
[19:40] <MilesG> lol, soryr
[19:40] <atomicpotato> it's kind of a crash course if you're new
[19:40] <Mike____> yeah i know that
[19:40] <proprietarysucks> is there a reason kubuntu's awk is from 1996 ?
[19:40] <Mike____> but how do i run it from the console?
[19:40] <eagles0513875> how do i change the sudo command to su instead
[19:40] <lg188> someone knows game for linux ?
[19:40] <proprietarysucks> eagles0513875: sudo passwd root
[19:40] <petesejt> eindbaas: First of all check the BIOS virus protection (off) / MBR write option (enable) or something similar as well as BIOS all defaults.
[19:40] <atomicpotato> !root | eagles0513875
[19:40] <ubotu> eagles0513875: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:40] <eagles0513875> proprietarysucks: i dont want to have to stay typing in sudo i would like to use su instead
[19:40] <atomicpotato> somewhere along to bottom
[19:41] <spykedtomato> hey all - in konqueror is there something like the "private browsing" function that safari has?
[19:41] <Tm_T> spykedtomato: whats that
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> eagles0513875: I just told you. instead of thinking just do it
[19:41] <eagles0513875> proprietarysucks: i dunno how
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> eagles0513875: sudo passwd root
[19:41] <eagles0513875> oh
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> eagles0513875: then enter a password
[19:41] <Tm_T> proprietarysucks: no
[19:41] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: no
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> eagles0513875: then you can just su
[19:41] <Tm_T> proprietarysucks: eagles0513875: no
[19:41] <proprietarysucks> yes
[19:41] <Tm_T> don't make me repeat it
[19:41] <lg188> someone knows game for linux ?
[19:41] <Mike____> atomicpotato, how do i run the script form the console?
[19:42] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: do "sudo -i"
[19:42] <spykedtomato> Tm_T: choose "private browsing" and your browser records no history, no cache...
[19:42] <Tm_T> spykedtomato: then no
[19:42] <ardchoille> proprietarysucks: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account. It makes their system less secure and it isn't supported. Additionally, we aren't supposed to recommend it here.
[19:42] <atomicpotato> Mike____, eh, type the name of it and the full path to it
[19:42] <atomicpotato> like: /cdrom/upgrade.sh
[19:42] <Tm_T> proprietarysucks: no no, and NO
[19:42] <atomicpotato> something like that
[19:42] <spykedtomato> Tm_T: bummer, but thanks
[19:42] <proprietarysucks> ubuntu for beginners?
[19:42] <Mike____> ok.. i'll try it
[19:42] <Mike____> thanks
[19:42] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: how can i change sudo to su and still have it as sudo command
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> lol
[19:43] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: what does sudo -i do
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> su -c 'mycommand'
[19:43] <eagles0513875> ?
[19:43] <Tm_T> proprietarysucks: silence now
[19:43] <eagles0513875> im totally lost foget it guys ill just stick with sud
[19:43] <eagles0513875> o
[19:43] <proprietarysucks> sudo mycommand
[19:43] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: sudi -i makes you run superuser session
[19:43] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: you're better off with sudo anyway
[19:43] <ubuntu_> *waves*
[19:44] <eagles0513875> ardchoille: thing is im trying to convert my friend to use kubuntu but he hates the sudo command
[19:44] <t3ch13> Has anybody ever ran into a problem with WPA in Kubuntu 7.10 I can connect just fine at home but not at work. Both are wpa personal
[19:44] <eagles0513875> he preferssu
[19:44] <MilesG> Tm_T: can i have the bought say hi to some people?
[19:44] <proprietarysucks> anyone know why kubuntu has an 11 year old awk on it which doesn't support modern functions?
[19:44] <DarthWar> wow
[19:44] <DarthWar> this server knows me
[19:44] <ardchoille> eagles0513875: Tell him that sudo is more secure because you can't brute force a locked root account
[19:44] <DarthWar> I just left suse 10.3 What a mess
[19:44] <atomicpotato> oh yeah, people were talking about this a while ago: did X.org 7.3 ever make it into Gutsy?
[19:44] <DarthWar> is 7.10 a good distro
[19:44] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: sudo -i gives you pretty much same that plain "su" gives in this case
[19:45] <Tm_T> DarthWar: yes
[19:45] <eagles0513875> t3ch13: that is what i noticed today i was tryign to connect to my school network and all i have for encryption is wpa enterprise i need wpa personal
[19:45] <atomicpotato> DarthWar, well, good is subjective
[19:45] <eagles0513875> or just plain old wpa
[19:45] <DarthWar> the install keeps failing
[19:45] <atomicpotato> The beta I tried was fairly solid
[19:45] <DarthWar> says bad disk or something
[19:45] <t3ch13> I have wpa personal and it works fine at home but not at work it's wierd
[19:45] <atomicpotato> (can nobody answer the X.org question? Tm_T should know)
[19:45] <DarthWar> anybody have it loaded on a dell D830
[19:45] <Tm_T> DarthWar: did you check md5 ?
[19:45] <epimeth> sooo... I apt-getted sun-java6-jdk... but java --version isn't returning anything... in fact, java doesn't exist
[19:46] <Tm_T> atomicpotato: packages.ubuntu.com =)
[19:46] <DarthWar> doing the verify on a new burn
[19:46] <eagles0513875> epimeth: did u install using adept or cli
[19:46] <atomicpotato> yeah, but I understand X is split into dozens of parts/
[19:46] <atomicpotato> not always at the same version?
[19:46] <proprietarysucks> anyone know what awk is and why it's over a decade old on kubuntu
[19:46] <lg188> someone knows game for linux ?
[19:46] <eagles0513875> !awk
[19:46] <Tm_T> atomicpotato: well look core package versions
[19:46] <lg188> someone knows game for Kubuntu ?
[19:46] <eagles0513875> lg188: take a look in the pkg manager and search games
[19:46] <atomicpotato> proprietarysucks: it's a text manipulation tool
[19:46] <epimeth> eagles0513875: apt-get
[19:46] <Tm_T> lg188: please dont repeat
[19:46] <atomicpotato> doesn't change a whole lot
[19:47] <eagles0513875> epimeth: u using gutsy
[19:47] <eagles0513875> epimeth: cuz i did too and its workign fine for me
[19:47] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[19:47] <atomicpotato> bah, still v7.2
[19:47] <atomicpotato> that's lame
[19:47] <proprietarysucks> atomicpotato: yes it does change, the version in kubuntu is extremely old and outdated. it's from 1996 and doesn't support some newer functions. I'm wondering why
[19:48] <eagles0513875> epimeth: download eclipse and try create a java program
[19:48] <atomicpotato> proprietarysucks, no idea, I never could understand it
[19:48] <MilesG> !lame | atomicpotato
[19:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lame - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:48] <Tm_T> atomicpotato: X.Org version: 1.3.0
[19:48] <atomicpotato> eh? says 7.2-r5 or something
[19:49] <lg188> ty ^^
[19:49] <r0y4l> any ideas why main kde apps like kpdf has "No text!" in the menu?
[19:49] <atomicpotato> well, I have to leave. Guess XRandR isn't in 7.10.
[19:49] <r0y4l> No text! instead of i.e. "Print"
[19:49] <eagles0513875> epimeth: also u need to make sure u have the jre cuz the jdk is pointless without the runtime environment
[19:49] <Tm_T> r0y4l: what translation?
[19:49] <Tm_T> !test
[19:49] <ubotu> Failed.
[19:50] <eagles0513875> !test
[19:50] <r0y4l> Tm_T: en