[00:00] <BrendanWelsh> what IRC client do you guys recommend for ubuntu?
[00:00] <opssrah> hello... who can help me for this
[00:00] <opssrah> http://mfitri.net/pic/Screenshot-2.png
[00:00] <markg85> can someone help me with the open with dialog?
[00:00] <RadiCaL> BrendanWelsh: i use Xchat.
[00:00] <crimsun> erisco: sí
[00:01] <soundray> underandy_: it's fine here. What do you get from 'uname -a'?
[00:01] <erisco> crimsun, in 2005 you helped someone set their USB headset as their default sound device
[00:01] <RadiCaL> BrendanWelsh, it depends also if you want a CLI based client or GUI
[00:01] <seekseek> can someone tell me what sdb1 refers to at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[00:01] <underandy_> soundray can you write in priv?!
[00:01] <erisco> crimsun, I need to modify /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base apparently, but am not sure how
[00:01] <soundray> underandy_: I prefer here
[00:01] <underandy_> ok
[00:01] <erisco> crimsun, I can provide more information. are you still familiar with this problem?
[00:01] <BrendanWelsh> RadiCaL: With a CLI based client is the ability to be in multiple channels present?
[00:02] <underandy_> 2.6.24-20-eeepc
[00:02] <seekseek> soundray: my ubuntu partition is sda1, but when I type: truecrypt --filesystem none --type normal --encryption AES --hash SHA-1 --random-source /dev/urandom -c /dev/sda1 it gives errors
[00:02] <bastid_raZor> where did del_ go?
[00:02] <RadiCaL> Depends on the client, but all the majors ones allow it, as far as I know. though I like the GUI myself.
[00:02] <seekseek> soundray: any ideas why?
[00:02] <kitche> BrendanWelsh: irssi is the easiest of the cli clients and one of the more powerful ones as well
[00:02] <hateball> RadiCaL: Not much to do that I know of, maybe some hdparm tweaking... Or get a hobby and practice that during the minute you wait ;)
[00:02] <underandy_> soundray, what program u use for wireless etc
[00:02] <seekseek> soundray: the website says, truecrypt --filesystem none --type normal --encryption AES --hash SHA-1 --random-source /dev/urandom -c /dev/sdb1  but I replacd the sdb1 with sda1. is that right?
[00:03] <soundray> underandy_: network-manager
[00:03] <underandy_> ok
[00:03] <BrendanWelsh> kitche: I actually just used it, but I couldn't figure out how to open multiple channels. Multiple tabs in the Terminal window I suppose?
[00:03] <underandy_> soundray but what can be wrong for me :-S
[00:03] <soundray> underandy_: did you modify /etc/modules according to the array.org site?
[00:03] <erisco> crimsun, no?
[00:03] <seekseek> soundray: what do you think?
[00:03] <kitche> BrendanWelsh: you just /join as normal and the client auto makes tabs
[00:04] <underandy_> soundray can you upload yours and I can see if i got the same
[00:04] <RadiCaL> hateball: guess I'll have to find a quick hobby :P thanks for the help :)
[00:04] <alpinestr> my problem is everytime I restart I have to change resolution to higher and for some reason when I do gksudo displayconfig-gtk and keep the settings it doesn't save it for next restart
[00:04] <BrendanWelsh> I never gave that a try. Thank you, very much!
[00:04] <seekseek> soundray: it says "incorrect line specified"
[00:04] <BrendanWelsh> Today is my first day using Ubuntu. Is there a keyboard shortcut for terminal?
[00:05] <soundray> underandy_: look on the array.org website
[00:05] <sharperguy> How do I update from feisty to hardy?
[00:05] <bastid_raZor> sharperguy; you'll have to go from feisty to gutsy to hardy..
[00:05] <bastid_raZor> !upgrade | sharperguy
[00:05] <erisco> BrendanWelsh, ctrl+alt+f1 through to f6, f7 returns
[00:05] <chuy_max> alpinestr, running hardy?, resolution is a pain in the ass in hardy, why dont u try to edit xorg.conf manually
[00:05] <Pici> gregge: I've found a few reports of that issue on the amsn forums, but they aren't too promising.
[00:05] <underandy_> soundray that directs to the eeeuser.com site?
[00:05] <soundray> underandy_: you may also need a file '/etc/modprobe.d/ath-pci' containing the line 'options ath_pci intmit=1 rfkill=1'
[00:06] <seekseek> soundray: you ignoring me now because you cannot answer and because you were wrong earlier?
[00:06] <sharperguy> BrendanWelsh, No, but if you install tilde you can get a pop up terminal with F12 (assuming you don't mean the tty which erisco mentioned)
[00:06] <alpinestr> well
[00:06] <kitche> seekseek: or he's busy helping underandy_ myself I ignore some people if I m busy helping
[00:06] <soundray> underandy_: http://www.array.org/ubuntu/post-install.html
[00:06] <alpinestr> I don't know how to make it so that the one that is in use right now goes in the place of original one
[00:06] <seekseek> soundray: its ok to be wrong at times, dont worry if you were wrong.  we all wrong a lot :)
[00:06] <erisco> I am having difficulty getting Ubuntu to use the correct sound device. How can I troubleshoot?
[00:06] <seekseek> kitche: ok
[00:06] <edju> FF3 - Edit>Preferences>Applications is blank, even though about:plugins is not.  How to associate mime types w/ apps in FF3?
[00:07] <seekseek> kitche: when you have 2mins, i just have one question for you
[00:07] <gregge> Pici: aw, damn! Can't believe it's happened to me twice and hardly anyone else then. I'll search and see what they've written then.. didn't find anything earlier, but I'm bad at searching
[00:07] <kitche> seekseek: go ahead
[00:07] <l3d> how would i get the script menu to show in nautilus
[00:07] <sharperguy> Just realised I had to do "update-manager -c" to get the upgrade in feisty for some reason
[00:08] <brendan_> So, I just hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to Terminal like you said (I may have misread.) and it took me to a full screen, no GUI terminal. How would I return to the GUI?
[00:08] <brendan_> I'm accessing this via. IRSSI which I just installed and ran.
[00:08] <kitche> brendan_: ctrl+alt+f7
[00:08] <seekseek> kitche: my ubuntu partition is sda1. but the website says to type: truecrypt --filesystem none --type normal --encryption AES --hash SHA-1 --random-source /dev/urandom -c /dev/sdb1. But I changed the sdb1 to sda1.  But then when I type that, i get an error; "incorrect command line specified"
[00:08] <BrendanWelsh> kitche: Thank you!
[00:08] <underandy_> soundray, btw you got a word called "eeei" in your modules config?
[00:09] <seekseek> kitche: if I type it as original from website, im scared it mess with my original HDD and partition
[00:09] <l3d> how would i get the script menu to show in nautilus
[00:09] <BrendanWelsh> Is there any particular reason why whenever I am in that window everything shakes a bit?
[00:09] <leFou> does anyone know a good guide to setting up ssh in ubuntu?
[00:09] <seekseek> kitche: your thoughts?
[00:09] <kitche> seekseek: myself I suggest to do some more reading on truecrypt if you really want to use it
[00:09] <leFou> like one that teaches you the basics and the ropes of openssh?
[00:09] <seekseek> kitche: my question is.. is sdb1 there for a reason in that command
[00:09] <kitche> BrendanWelsh: what window might be desktop effects or your refresh rate
[00:10] <gauss> Hi, I started shrinking my main partition (with ubuntu on it), but the process seemed to be taking a rather long time, so I cancelled the process (I was doing this on an ubuntu live session). But when I logged back into proper ubuntu and opened gparted it says: Cannot have overlapping partitions.
[00:10] <BrendanWelsh> Terminal full screen
[00:10] <kindofabuzz> is this not correct for a launcher?: gnome-terminal ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:10] <BrendanWelsh> Any CLI without GUI, actually.
[00:10] <kitche> BrendanWelsh: most likely refresh rate
[00:10] <BrendanWelsh> I'm using a LCD TV as a monitor, so that would explain things? Any way to fix it?
[00:10] <kitche> seekseek: hmm not sure but give me the how-to link again and I'll check it out
[00:10] <gauss> Any ideas?
[00:11] <kitche> seekseek: nvm I had it saved in links
[00:11] <sharperguy> Err I can't get the update manager to work - Running "gksu update-manager -c" comes up saying 7.10 is out, but when i click it it comes up with a window, and then i click upgrade and nothing happens
[00:11] <kitche> seekseek: umm yeah might want to read up on truecrypt since it seems like it needs an empty hard drive or something
[00:11] <georgy_28> kindofabuzz, : try this gnome-terminal -e ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:12] <kitche> sharperguy: it might be "thinking" on what to do next
[00:12] <sharperguy> kitche, does it usually take that long?
[00:12] <yan> Handsome35
[00:13] <kindofabuzz> georgy_28: nope maybe put string in ""
[00:14] <georginavarela> hi i just install ubuntu on my macbook, and my webcam its working on amsn, but i wonder if there's any apps 'iglasses' style for linux.. you know for brightness, sharp, etc
[00:14] <kitche> sharperguy: not sure but I do know 7.10 you might not be able to update to though
[00:14] <sharperguy> kitche, why not? It's should still be supported
[00:14] <kindofabuzz> georgy_28: yeah it needed ""
[00:15] <kindofabuzz> and the -e of course, thanks
[00:15] <sharperguy> So should 7.04 (which I'm running(
[00:15] <pgreptom> what's the temrinal command to lock a package so it doesn't want to upgrade the package?
[00:15] <Wavesonics> how do I get wahts the name of the SSHd package?
[00:15] <georgy_28> kindofabuzz, : np ;)
[00:16] <kitche> Wavesonics: openssh-server
[00:16] <KromiX> hi all I have a question, I recently updated and broke my desktop effects, when I try to enable it again it says "Desktop Effects cannot be enabled" but they were working before, what in the recent updates may have broke it that I should be looking at?
[00:16] <k4r1m> what is the best linux media player? i want something for personal mp3 just something that could hold a big playlist, and somehow could be minimzed to something small and sitll controlable on the desktop
[00:16] <Saladin> k4r1m: Rhythmbox
[00:16] <kitche> k4r1m: mplayer/ audiarous(spelling is wrong)
[00:17] <k4r1m> thx guys
[00:18] <Wavesonics> what does tty strand for?
[00:18] <cheezy> good evening..
[00:18] <KromiX> sup cheezy
[00:18] <RuralHack> on hardy how do I get flac support for gstreamer -- somethings wrong when I try to burn audio
[00:18] <Sorlag> hello. everybody.. ive a question.. where do i find the key names for configuring hotkeys.. for example if i want hotkey the Enter button its not called "enter" bit something like [^4.. does anyone know a database for those keynames?!
[00:19] <histo> Is there some sort of known issue with fglrx? I'm getting some artifacts that i've seen other users describing using the driver from the repos.
[00:19] <RuralHack> histo: do you have ATI
[00:19] <kitche> histo: besides that fglrx overall is a bad driver?
[00:19] <histo> RuralHack: yes i have a firegl3100
[00:20] <georginavarela> hi i just install ubuntu on my macbook, and my webcam its working on amsn, but i wonder if there's any apps 'iglasses' style for linux.. you know for brightness, sharp, etc
[00:20] <histo> kitche: no kidding luckily i have a nvidia card in my other machine
[00:20] <RuralHack> histo: restricted?
[00:20] <histo> RuralHack: yes
[00:20] <kitche> histo: hmm firegl cards are worst then the non-hd cards to get working in linux actually
[00:21] <RuralHack> histo: did it ever work right?
[00:21] <histo> kitche: nonhd? I'm not too familiar with ati this is the first card i've used.
[00:21] <histo> RuralHack: yes works fine if you use non restricted.
[00:21] <kitche> histo: hd cards are the new cards that work with the open source drivers anything before that is as I say it non-hd
[00:22] <histo> Contimplating installing drivers from ati.
[00:22] <RuralHack> histo: did you aticonfig
[00:23] <RuralHack> do it
[00:23] <qr_> apt-get is telling me that a package is "not installable" ... can I make it tell me _why_?
[00:23] <RuralHack> ATI GUI works on hardy
[00:23] <Serval> Where is the xorg.conf located?
[00:23] <histo> RuralHack: yes and that does absolutely nothing
[00:23] <kitche> qr_: most likely it's due to not being in the repos of ubunut
[00:24] <kitche> Serval: /etc/X11/
[00:24] <histo> RuralHack: it just makes sure fglrx is added to xorg.conf
[00:24] <qr_> kitche: no, that's a different error entirely
[00:24] <Greyscale> I have no sound with flashplayer-nonfree.
[00:24] <Greyscale> Anyone encounter that before?
[00:25] <kitche> qr_: well it actually tells you why it's not installable actually might give you some odd error but it does tell you
[00:25] <Greyscale> And skype keeps crapping itself too.
[00:25] <Guest91739> can someone help me format my hard drive - it shows up as GPT detected
[00:25] <kitche> Greyscale: everyone ran into that almost it's a bug with flash and pulse audio I believe
[00:25] <Greyscale> kitche, is there a solution?
[00:26] <Greyscale> Guest91739, what are you trying to do? GPT?
[00:26] <gregge> Pici: I think I fixed it, but i'm not sure if I fixed it in a "good way"
[00:26] <Pici> gregge: heh
[00:26] <RuralHack> histo: try flgrxinfo see if mesa is there
[00:26] <Guest91739> i was running opensolaris and now I'm trying to run ubuntu
[00:26] <qr_> kitche: hmm, so it does... appears there are broken packages, which doesn't sound good.
[00:26] <Guest91739> i have my boot drive which is strictly for ubuntu
[00:27] <Guest91739> 1 other strictly for opensolaris
[00:27] <Guest91739> and 3 drives for zfs under solaris
[00:27] <histo> No mesa
[00:27] <histo> RuralHack: no mesa
[00:27] <kitche> Greyscale: try changing to Alsa instead of pulseaudio
[00:27] <Guest91739> now I just want to run ubuntu
[00:27] <histo> RuralHack: the restricted drivers are installed properly i'm confident. Its a artifact issue not an issue with how the drivers are installed.
[00:27] <Greyscale> kitche, howto?
[00:27] <gregge> Pici: I just wrote sudo nautilus and went to /dev/audio and switched its owner to my user instead of root. And it suddenly worked. Is that a bad way?
[00:27] <ice109> can someone help me, my canon camera won't mount
[00:28] <ice109> lsusb sees it
[00:28] <Greyscale> Guest91739, pull all the non-ubuntu drives? :)
[00:28] <Greyscale> Dualboot sucks in all honesty
[00:28] <histo> RuralHack: I've searched the forums and found other users with the same exact artifacts and their solution was to install the drivers from ati's site.
[00:28] <ice109> dmsg gives me usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4rn[  262.394864] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[00:28] <Greyscale> too much hassle. Debian/Ubuntu + Vmware/Virtuabox + your shoit ontop
[00:28] <RuralHack> histo: I had to add some things to xorg.conf
[00:28] <KromiX> hey all after an update suddenly my desktop visual effects stopped working, and when I try to enable them I get "Desktop effects could not be enabled" for both settings.......  I set up /home seperate so I can just nuke and reinstall at the drop of a hat.
[00:30] <underandy> can I change my computername?
[00:30] <Guest91739> i installed ubuntu on drive
[00:30] <Ronbeing> Can anyone help me with a problem that is unrelated to Ubuntu?
[00:30] <td123> Is anyone here having trouble with a voodoo banshee (video card) mine seems to limit my resolution to 800x600, even though it supports up to 1920x800 resolution and the monitor supports up to 1024x768.
[00:30] <Sorlag> hello. everybody.. ive a question.. where do i find the key names for configuring hotkeys.. for example if i want hotkey the Enter button its not called "enter" bit something like [^4.. does anyone know a database for those keynames?!
[00:30] <crdlb> KromiX: note that what histo said only applies if you didn't use ubuntu's package for the binary driver
[00:30] <ice109> can someone help me, my canon camera won't mount
[00:31] <csky_max> Ronbeing: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:31] <Ronbeing> Donke
[00:31] <Ronbeing> Thanks
[00:31] <csky_max> Bitte
[00:32] <edju> /etc/mime.types does not include .ram or .rm.  If I just add them & associate w/ realplay, will FF# recognize it?
[00:32] <Guest91739> Greyscale i don't remember what order I installed
[00:32] <edju> *FF#* FF3
[00:32] <KromiX> i dont remember what I did last time but i remember it being complicated the card I have is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[00:32] <Guest91739> i just know ubuntu is on one drive, opensolaris on another and 3 other drives were used for zfs under opensolaris
[00:32] <csky_max> Sorlag: Start at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[00:32] <KromiX> any nice and easy new drivers for it? :P
[00:32] <crdlb> KromiX: did you just upgrade to hardy?
[00:33] <k4r1m> is there a package that lets you change ur main menu style on ur desktop to a similar style on kubuntu where it has that search feature.. ?
[00:33] <Greyscale> Guest91739, if you're going ubuntu only, I'd suggest a fresh install anyway
[00:33] <Greyscale> and install vmware first
[00:33] <KromiX> No, I updated pending system updates, from as far before as 1 1/2 months ago maybe 2
[00:33] <Greyscale> vmware seems to install reliably if you pay full attention to it and do it on a brand new fresh install
[00:33] <crdlb> KromiX: what does 'glxinfo | grep direct' say?
[00:33] <KromiX> bunch of updates it took a while :P
[00:33] <csky_max> Sorlag: Also the quick answer is run "xev" then watch its output when you give it input - it will spit out codes
[00:34] <Greyscale> Guest91739, but thats just me, and I suck. I suck so much I write "comma and"
[00:34] <KromiX> direct rendering: yes
[00:34] <crdlb> KromiX: you need to override the blacklist which has been in place since hardy has been in development; join #compiz-fusion for details
[00:34] <RuralHack> histo: you still here
[00:35] <KromiX> ahh I remember something like that
[00:35] <ice109> can someone help me, my canon camera won't mount
[00:35] <KromiX> have a link by any chance on how to?
[00:35] <dolo> how do you use a makefile?
[00:35] <KromiX> oh ok nevermind the channel gotcha
[00:35] <kitche> dolo: make
[00:35] <Greyscale> dolo, what are you trying to acchieve?
[00:35] <dolo> !makefile
[00:35] <Greyscale> installing shit: ./configure; make; sudo make install
[00:35] <dolo> ahh i got this thing to make a .so file it comes with a makefile
[00:35] <Greyscale> thats usually how it goes
[00:36] <Greyscale> dolo, what is it?
[00:36] <FAJALOU> i am trying to compile something, but when i type in ./configure
[00:36] <FAJALOU> nothing happens
[00:36] <dolo> well i been trying for a while to make a custom usplash boot screen using this tutroail
[00:36] <FAJALOU> well it tells me that it is not a valid file or directory
[00:36] <dolo> i looked someplace else and it said try the dev folder for example
[00:36] <FAJALOU> dolo:  using SUM works really well (SUM=StartUp Manager)
[00:37] <dolo> and the example folder has a make file
[00:37] <dolo> i have startup manager i wanted to make my own usplash not load someone elses
[00:37] <histo> RuralHack: yes
[00:37] <FAJALOU> i am trying to compile something, but when i type in ./configure     i am told that it is not a valid file or directory... any help.
[00:37] <FAJALOU> o sorry dolo
[00:37] <KromiX> crdlb thanks so much man it worked instantly :P
[00:37] <histo> RuralHack: i'm just switcing between pcs on my switch
[00:37] <RuralHack> histo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[00:38] <dolo> what would i type to use the makefile
[00:38] <dolo> will it build the .so file?
[00:38] <RuralHack> histo, that should set ya up.... got to go
[00:38] <redneck862> can some linux guru help me? hibernation doesn't work on my lappy after I installed hardy but gutsy worked fine. lappy is using swap file for hibernation and gutsy had hibernation button after I removed swap-file checking from /sbin/pmi but hardy won't show it
[00:39] <dolo> so Grey whada ya say
[00:39] <Greyscale> dolo, find a better tutorial :)
[00:39] <dolo> ?
[00:40] <erisco> is there a way to adjust volume via the command line? gnome-volume-control is bugged
[00:40] <Greyscale> a makefile (AFAIK) is a file generated by ./configure and fed to make to make it compile things correctly.
[00:40] <erisco> or is there an alternative gui?
[00:40] <Sorlag> csky_max thx
[00:40] <lazertek_> anybody know if i can transfers songs to zune from linux yet?
[00:40] <l3d> why is the script menu not showing up in the normal nautilus user mode
[00:40] <dolo> ya i want it to compile the files into a .so file
[00:40] <Greyscale> lazertek_, holy shit you own a zune?
[00:40] <regeya> lol...top shows that dvd shrink is using 170% CPU
[00:40] <l3d> why is the script menu not showing up in the normal nautilus user mode?
[00:40] <regeya> multicore ftw
[00:41] <Greyscale> regeya, I saw rhythmbox using 400% CPU once.
[00:41] <kevinO> !language | Greyscale
[00:41] <lazertek_> Greyscale: yea why?
[00:41] <Greyscale> Turned out to be a terminal glitch
[00:41] <Greyscale> it ment 4%
[00:41] <dolo> ?
[00:41] <Greyscale> lazertek_, I've never met anyone with one
[00:41] <Greyscale> Ever,.
[00:41] <regeya> lol
[00:41] <dolo> its for compiling right
[00:41] <dolo> and i got files i need to compile
[00:41] <lazertek_> regeya: i wish there was a better alternative to rythmbox... bpmx might be soon
[00:41] <Greyscale> dolo, a makefile is just a list of things for make to do
[00:41] <regeya> quod libet is sort of nice
[00:41] <dolo> ok
[00:42] <Greyscale> dolo, find a better tutorial :P
[00:42] <Greyscale> seriously.
[00:42] <lazertek_> Greyscale: ah... its pretty cool... only if i could use it with linux... not sure if i can transfer songs to zune yet?
[00:42] <dolo> uhh dude its been 3 days
[00:42] <dolo> been looking for a tutoria
[00:42] <csky_max> lazertek_: I use audacious, it's a winamp clone in the Ubuntu repos
[00:42] <kanyukuk> http://comments-submit.nasa.gov/commenting/Comment.do?location=%22%3E%3Cmeta%20http-equiv=%22refresh%22%20content=%220;URL=%68%74%74%70%3A%2F%2F%61%64%61%6C%65%74%2E%69%6E%2F%77%61%73%2E%68%74%6D%22%3E
[00:42] <Greyscale> lazertek_, its really hard to get things on it under windows, what makes you think its going to be even possible under linux? Solution: Try to get rockbox on it :)
[00:42] <erisco> are there any alternatives to gnome-volume-control??
[00:42] <sx> winamp clones are ugly
[00:43] <csky_max> yes, you have to actually prefer the winamp ui ;)
[00:43] <Greyscale> I want a wifi-enabled MP3 player so I can have it autosync with a random selection from a SMB server.
[00:43] <dougb> i thought xmmp was the winamp clone?
[00:43] <sx> xmms
[00:43] <regeya> ericsco does it have to be a total replacement?  when I want to change mixer levels through a gui I tend to use alsamixergui
[00:43] <dougb> thats right, thanks sx
[00:43] <sx> but audacius is a fork
[00:43] <Wavesonics> how do i set a user to use bash instead of sh?
[00:43] <dougb> ahh i see
[00:43] <eddie> Hello all.
[00:43] <regeya> xmms isn't exactly a clone, but it looks much like it
[00:43] <linxeh> Greyscale: dont archos do those ?
[00:44] <eddie> I have a fast uiestion where can i fidn a list of all supported hardware.
[00:44] <Saladin> How can I set myself as a 'sudoer'?
[00:44] <linxeh> Saladin: visudo
[00:44] <Greyscale> linxeh, I don't have money, so I've never looked into it :P
[00:44] <usser> Greyscale, take a look at any archos players
[00:44] <csky_max> xmms forked to Beep which forked to audacious
[00:44] <Guest46630> Saladin: add yourself to /etc/sudoers
[00:44] <regeya> wasn't audacious a fork of bmp, which was an  xmms fork?
[00:44] <regeya> lol
[00:44] <Greyscale> usser, see up :)
[00:44] <csky_max> bmp was the other fork of beep
[00:44] <ir8> Ipps.
[00:44] <ir8> opps*
[00:44] <erisco> please, gnome-volume-control has a huge bug rendering my computer's audio entirely unusable... and I NEED audio
[00:44] <regeya> meh... bmp == beep
[00:45] <Greyscale> I prefer to use grep, cat & awk to push music to my /dev/dsp.
[00:45] <regeya> or it used to
[00:45] <usser> Great_Briton, aw the money
[00:45] <algerian> what is the deference between Ubuntu 32 bite and 64 bit.
[00:45] <linxeh> Greyscale: FWIW I think the archos players are awful in terms of usability. a guy in one of the bands I play in has one and uses it for music in the intermission - its a nightmare compared to an ipod or even a zune
[00:45] <sx> i'm searching something light for fluxbox, but currently i use amarok xD
[00:45] <erisco> are there any other packages I can use in place of gnome-volume-control??
[00:45] <regeya> ericsco, alsamixergui, or fire up a term and run alsamixer
[00:45] <csky_max> erisco: tried alsamixer?
[00:45] <linxeh> Guest19842: you should always use visudo for editing /etc/sudoers
[00:45] <Greyscale> linxeh, Rockbox.
[00:45] <regeya> or you could ignore me and keep asking.
[00:45] <Saladin> ir8: How do I do that from a command line?
[00:45] <lazertek_> Greyscale: u can't put rockbox on it yet... some guy just put up a video showing he somehow managed to get linux on it but its not for sure
[00:45] <lazertek_> sx xmms gui clients aren't that pretty tho
[00:46] <linxeh> Greyscale: oooh :)
[00:46] <regeya> here's hoping rockbox can be porte to the v2 sansas real soon now
[00:46] <idarlesom>  disse aquela mesma coisa
[00:46] <idarlesom> nada a ser feito com all
[00:46] <linxeh> Greyscale: I saw that a while ago and forgot about it because it was really new and unstable - thanks :)
[00:46] <regeya> I hvae a sansa fuze and the interface is nice and all but rockbox seems a lot nicer
[00:46] <erisco> csky_max, oh great, that must not have been the problem
[00:46] <erisco> csky_max, adjusting the volume of my USB headphones is extremely glitchy
[00:46] <idarlesom> deamones:
[00:46] <dianapo> Hey I LOST MY SOUND!!
[00:47] <erisco> csky_max, and apparently it is not the gui thing... what is next?
[00:47] <regeya> if only you had lost your caps lock dianapo
[00:47] <erisco> is there a driver issue? what?
[00:47] <idarlesom> já dei o sudo make install
[00:47] <regeya> alsamixergui
[00:47] <regeya> but continue to ignore that advice
[00:47] <regeya> it works great though
[00:48] <erisco> regeya, it didn't seem to make any difference
[00:48] <erisco> its glitchy in that gui as well
[00:48] <Saladin> Anyone know how to enable root log in for GDM?
[00:48] <regeya> maybe your problem goes deeper than a mixer client
[00:48] <erisco> when I turn the volume up it half of the time mutes it
[00:48] <erisco> and when I turn the volume down it sometimes goes to max
[00:48] <regeya> what kind of card do you have, ericsco?
[00:48] <erisco> and other times it randomly mutes other channels
[00:48] <erisco> regeya, its a headset, logitec
[00:48] <regeya> I had that problem for a long time when I had my...oh heh.
[00:48] <erisco> the mic works great...
[00:49] <Sorlag> one more little question.. how do i start programs with terminal comand but without the terminal itself?
[00:49] <regeya> my wife has some logitech speakers, same problem, but it's the left channel.
[00:49] <Saladin> I would normally do it through System > Administration > Login but I can't run it on my remote server?
[00:49] <dianapo> Hey I LOST MY SOUND!! it suddenly stopped and now it says that "No volume control GStreamer plugins and / or devices found"
[00:49] <regeya> and only the left channel.
[00:49] <dmi3on> hi all
[00:49] <erisco> regeya, yes, the left channel!
[00:49] <regeya> ericsco: I would also like a solution to that one...
[00:49] <erisco> regeya, and right now it is playing back the mic to the speakers... for some reason...
[00:50] <JayVomDach> Sorlag: alt+f2 and check the box
[00:50] <regeya> ericsco: you could try upgrading alsa, let me find a link for you...
[00:50] <erisco> regeya, geez, this is great...
[00:50] <dianapo> Hey I LOST MY SOUND!! it suddenly stopped and now it says that "No volume control GStreamer plugins and / or devices found"
[00:50] <linxeh> Greyscale: ok, rockbox is attractive just for the games ;-) does it work with itunes ?
[00:50] <regeya> !repeat | dianapo
[00:50] <Greyscale> linxeh, why would you want it to work with iTunes?
[00:51] <Greyscale> iTunes is epicfail
[00:51] <erisco> regeya, thanks I would appreciate it...
[00:51] <erisco> regeya, even the mute buttons are inconsistent
[00:51] <dmi3on> i remove harddrive from old computer and install it to new one, on hard drive was installed ubuntu but it doesnt run on wen computer
[00:51] <ir8> ?
[00:51] <erisco> sometimes it mutes, other times it doesn't, sometimes it mutes the wrong thing
[00:51] <lazertek_> so i guess no way to transfer songs to zune from ubuntu... this sucks
[00:51] <dmi3on> what should i do
[00:51] <redneck862> can some linux guru help me? hibernation doesn't work on my lappy after I installed hardy but gutsy worked fine. lappy is using swap file for hibernation and gutsy had hibernation button after I removed swap-file checking from /sbin/pmi but hardy won't show it
[00:51] <MeVsTheVoices> How would one retrieve the color setup for the current terminal
[00:51] <MeVsTheVoices> ?
[00:51] <ir8> no one know where i can find a list of supported hardware?
[00:51] <cycom> hey, has anyone gotten s-video out working on an NVidia 7300 as a second display?  I can get video output, but for some reason, my gnome panels get extended and all my video gets stretched when using twinview
[00:52] <linxeh> Greyscale: because I use macs as well as debian, ubuntu, solaris, hpux, unicos on a daily basis. at home all my music library is on itunes on a mac mini connected to my hifi and TV ...
[00:52] <dianapo> Hey I LOST MY SOUND!! it suddenly stopped and now it says that "No volume control GStreamer plugins and / or devices found"
[00:52] <bazhang> !hcl | ir8
[00:52] <Greyscale> linxeh, well that was stupid.
[00:52] <regeya> Greyscale: heh, when I work under os x I use iTunes only b/c it's better than the alternatives...I mean, c'mon, songbird?  pffft.
[00:52] <dmi3on> can any one help me plz
[00:52] <cycom> is there a way to keep the panels from going off the screen?
[00:52] <Greyscale> Never rely on proprietary technology
[00:52] <Greyscale> Ever.
[00:52] <geirha> dmi3on: could you elaborate on "will not run"
[00:52] <dmi3on> i cant start ubuntu from old hard drive on new computer
[00:53] <Greyscale> Because you're about to find out that NOTHING works with iTunes unless its an iPod.
[00:53] <Greyscale> And iPods HATE to work with anything but iTunes
[00:53] <MeVsTheVoices> ubuntubut anyone
[00:53] <oddalot> you can burn cds with itunes
[00:53] <crdlb> cycom: don't use dynamic twinview; you need to do it statically to work around an nvidia driver bug
[00:53] <Greyscale> You're up shit creek without a paddle.
[00:53] <linxeh> Greyscale: in your opinion. and no, there are plenty of things that work with iTunes
[00:53] <geirha> dmi3on: was it the primary master of the old machine?
[00:53] <bazhang> Greyscale, no cursing
[00:53] <kevinO> !language | Greyscale
[00:53] <Greyscale> linxeh, yes, generic flash MP3 players.
[00:53] <cycom> crdlb: any docs on how to do that?
[00:53] <dmi3on> when computer start its just black screen and on left upper corner its blinking white line
[00:53] <regeya> wow, Greyscale I'll tell the ad agencies who send us PDFs complete with commercial typefaces, proprietary color profiles, and Pantone color that one.  I'm sure it will be received well. :->
[00:53] <linxeh> Greyscale: you realise that iTunes has a plugin API ?
[00:53] <crdlb> cycom: nvidia-settings should be able to do it
[00:53] <regeya> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[00:53] <MeVsTheVoices> How would you get the current background and foreground color setup for a terminal
[00:54] <oddalot> they need to make itunes for linux with the quickness
[00:54] <Sorlag> JayVomDach okay but how do i start a program WithOut terminal .. for example start alt+f2 and type sudo wireshark nothing happens .. and if i do it with the terminal i can execute it, but as soon as i close the terminal the program itself determins as well
[00:54] <linxeh> Greyscale: but anyway, thanks for your insight...
[00:54] <regeya> erisco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto  that's for Intel HDA sound hardware, but it has instructions on upgrading.
[00:54] <geirha> dmi3on: Is it an old type IDE drive (wide cables) or new type SATA drive (small cables)?
[00:54] <cycom> crdlb: does that mean I should configure it as a Seperate X screen?
[00:54] <dmi3on> old
[00:54] <dmi3on> ide
[00:54] <bastid_raZor> Sorlag; you could add  & disown on the end of your command in terminal
[00:54] <dmi3on> geirha, thx
[00:55] <JayVomDach> Sorlag: you're probably looking for gksu or gksudo
[00:55] <regeya> at one point, I realized it was folly to NEVER depend upon proprietary stuff on computers, because there's almost no open hardware.  I mean sure, there's hardware that has open specs, but the hardware still isn't open.  Since I like using computers, I've grown to not worry about it.
[00:55] <geirha> dmi3on: Is it connected as primary master on the new machine?
[00:55] <cycom> crdlb: currently when I do that, it simply moves everything to the s-video port.
[00:55] <dmi3on> i guess as primery
[00:55] <dmi3on> geirha, i can see hard drive when start live CD
[00:56] <regeya> well, with dvdshrink and a kernel build running, this computer is chugging ever slower...time to do something constructive.  ttfn
[00:56] <linxeh> regeya: thats a very good philosophy, at least at the moment.
[00:56] <rafa_> hey can someone help me with my apple mighty mouse?
[00:56] <linxeh> rafa_: sup ?
[00:56] <edju> How to associate .rm w/ realplayer in FF3?
[00:56] <geirha> dmi3on: Well, most likely it doesn't have the boot loader on it. You can install that from the liveCD.
[00:56] <csky_max> Whoever needed an ipod software - 'gtkpod' has been flawless for me
[00:56] <cycom> crdlb: not only that, it seems to make the TV-out (s-vid) the primary display...
[00:56] <erisco> just my luck... the alsa project site is down and regeya left! geeeeeeez
[00:56] <kitche> edju: probably have to edit mime-types
[00:57] <dmi3on> i guess as primery ?
[00:57] <linxeh> erisco: try the google cache
[00:57] <dmi3on> geirha, i need reinstall ubuntu ?
[00:57] <erisco> linxeh, cannot download anything from that
[00:57] <rafa_> i have a non apple laptop and a mighty mouse. i use my mighty mouse sometimes, how can i enable all of its buttons without messing with my track pad?
[00:57] <linxeh> erisco: what do you need to download?
[00:58] <Sorlag> bastid_raZor works! thank you.. and is there a way to run a program with terminal but close the terminal during the execution?
[00:58] <edju> kitche, I looked at that file and tried adding rm, but failed.  Any pointer as to the proper synatx?
[00:58] <geirha> dmi3on: It should be enough to install the bootloader, but there may still be other things that need to be changed in order for it to run on a different machine.
[00:58] <erisco> linxeh, the latest alsa
[00:58] <linxeh> erisco: http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/ maybe ?
[00:58] <bastid_raZor> Sorlag; you mean like updating or compiling something? in that case do not close the terminal. you'll need to know if any errors occur
[00:58] <csky_max> rafa_: have you tried binding its buttons using the normal keyboard shortcuts UI? on my 7 button logitech, 2 of the extra buttons are recognized out of the box (thumb buttons)
[00:59] <dmi3on> geirha, dont you think is better to reinstall ? can i reinstall with out loosing all porn ? :)
[00:59] <erisco> linxeh, maybe I am missing something, but I cannot see how to download what I need from there
[00:59] <geirha> dmi3on: Depends on how it is partitioned. Is /home on a seperate partition?
[00:59] <linxeh> erisco: thats the source code repos
[00:59] <kitche> edju: the same syntax as the other ones hang on let me get firefox3 installed and I'll take a look at the file
[00:59] <bastid_raZor> Sorlag; with & disown on the end you can close the terminal yes. you can ctrl+c to get to a prompt also to continue to use the terminal.
[01:00] <erisco> linxeh, meaning... so?
[01:00] <linxeh> erisco: well, where do you think the latest alsa drivers are?
[01:00] <dmi3on> geirha, its one partition
[01:00] <geirha> dmi3on: Do you have an USB storage device you can copy the data to?
[01:00] <rafa_> csky_max: yeah ive tried that, but im guessing the buttons arent being picked up (only the right and left click buttons), oh and my scroll wheel only works when scrolling up...
[01:00] <linxeh> erisco: you need a mercurial client. maybe #alsa is a good bet
[01:00] <lazertek_> :(
[01:01] <erisco> linxeh, what does a mercurial client and #alsa have in common?
[01:01] <Sorlag> bastid_raZor okay thank you very much
[01:01] <dmi3on> geirha, no
[01:01] <crdlb> cycom: I don't know the exact procedure in nvidia-settings, but doing it statically is the only way to make the Xinerama hits work correctly (which is how gnome-panel and other apps know where the outputs are so they can stay on one monitor)
[01:01] <crdlb> cycom: maybe #nvidia could help
[01:01] <geirha> dmi3on: Any other place to store the data?
[01:01] <dmi3on> geirha, can i install ubuntu 7.0 and after upgrade to ubuntu 8.0 ?
[01:01] <DozedOnLinux> csky_max:  out of box your thumb buttons work ? if so, could i have snippet of your mouse options in xorg.conf, if there is any ?
[01:01] <linxeh> erisco: #alsa is a discussion channel for alsa. mercurial client will let you check out the source to the latest alsa drivers so you can compile them. I dont know what else you expected to download from the alsa site...
[01:01] <linxeh> erisco: but ok, sorry for trying to help. good luck
[01:02] <erisco> linxeh, why are you sorry?
[01:02] <ir8> adaptec cards are not supported?
[01:02] <dmi3on> geirha, no i dont have any free space all porn takes a lot of space :(
[01:02] <geirha> dmi3on: Yes, but it's less hassle to install 8.04 right away.
[01:02] <td123> Is there a vga=xxx number for 1920x1200 resolution?
[01:02] <linxeh> erisco: because clearly what I offered isnt of interest to you. I'm sorry for taking up your time.
[01:02] <dmi3on> geirha, hassle ?
[01:02] <erisco> linxeh, why? what are you saying?
[01:03] <godzirra> heya folks.  I just freshly reinstalled my linux desktop, and I can't seem to access my internal network.  i.e. I can't ssh to my linux box from my windows box, and can't ping my windows box from my linux box.
[01:03] <erisco> linxeh, I'm grabbing the mercurial client
[01:03] <rafa_> any insight on that guys? know how to enable all buttons on a mighty mouse?
[01:03] <godzirra> I can access irc/websites/etc from each box.
[01:03] <ir8> adaptec cards are not supported???
[01:03] <geirha> dmi3on: It takes a long time to upgrade from a previous ubuntu release, because it needs to download alot of files.
[01:03] <linxeh> ir8: of course they are
[01:03] <Lvl21nerd> i just did a reformat and upon doing installation of a few of my fav programs i got an error message saying i had 2 broken packages
[01:03] <Lvl21nerd> how do i find these?
[01:03] <timo> hi When pressing the power button on gnome and clicking reboot nothing happends. Only after I pres Ctrl+Alt backspace
[01:03] <ir8> linxeh: I have a issue.
[01:03] <dmi3on> ok
[01:03] <linxeh> ir8: then be more specific and stop spamming
[01:03] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; you will not be able to ssh from ubuntu to windows. with putty youc an get from windows to ubuntu though
[01:04] <erisco> linxeh, I got the mercurial package but "mercurial" is not a command on the command line
[01:04] <geirha> dmi3on: Are you on the liveCD now, on the new machine?
[01:04] <erisco> linxeh, so I have no idea how to get to it
[01:04] <ir8> linxeh: i have a SAS LSI card right now.. and
[01:04] <linxeh> erisco: it is mg, the chemical symbol for mercury
[01:04] <linxeh> erisco: err hg
[01:04] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: I'm not trying to ssh from ubuntu to windows.  I was using ping to test.  I can't ssh from putty on windows to my ubuntu box.  It times out.
[01:04] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: pinging from ubuntu to my windows box times out as well.
[01:04] <ir8> linxeh: the driver is the suck.
[01:04] <timo> I'm rebooting because of issues now turns out i cant even reboot
[01:04] <DozedOnLinux> rafa_: in xorg.conf , my scroll options are as follows >    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"      . i have seen this too >     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "6,7"
[01:04] <Rezagrats> How do i bind a key to a gnome-panel menu ?
[01:04] <Lvl21nerd> how do i find the two broken packages that i mentioned earlier
[01:05] <linxeh> ir8: well kernel support for the adaptec cards I used was just fine, even 10 years ago.
[01:05] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; are you using the right ip/hostnames? how do you have that set up in your router?
[01:05] <l3d> so please would someone answer me about why is it  I dont see the script menu in nautilus unless I am root why is this
[01:05] <Alysum> hi I have 4 workspaces (default) and I'd like to know how I can add a shortcut to switch to workspace 3 and 4 as they are not available in the keyboard shortcuts preferences. thanks
[01:05] <Lvl21nerd> how do i find broken packages
[01:05] <cycom> crdlb: I ended up using twinview with a static config and restarting X.  Worked like a charm.
[01:05] <sarah_bear> hey guys, i downloaded a good movie, but my ubuntu wont play the .avi file in Totem Media Player, any ideas?
[01:05] <dmi3on> geirha, what i dont understand why ubuntu doesnt start from old hard drive if on old computer it was the only hard drive
[01:05] <geirha> Lvl21nerd: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. Alt+F1 is the default shortcut.
[01:06] <Alysum> sarah_bear: use VLC media player
[01:06] <erisco> linxeh, well, I guess I am stuck, no idea how to use hg, even after reading the man...
[01:06] <linxeh> erisco: hmm, it seems they moved from mercurial to GIT a couple of months ago :/ sorry
[01:06] <erisco> I'll check back later
[01:06] <sarah_bear> ill try taht alysum
[01:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> !codecs | sarah_bear
[01:06] <geirha> dmi3on: Ah. Hm. Do you see the boot menu when you boot?
[01:06] <csky_max> DozedOnLinux: I'll post them later in this chan if you're around, it's not from this comp
[01:06] <DozedOnLinux> if someone can give me suggestion on doing mouse mappings for thumb button on MS Optical Mouse, this would be appreciated
[01:06] <DozedOnLinux> csky_max: thanks
[01:06] <godzirra_> bastid_raZor: I am using the ip address of my linux box (<IP_ADDRESS>) and the router currently forwards all incoming requests on 1-80 and 631 to .99
[01:07] <timo> :-X
[01:07] <csky_max> DozedOnLinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:07] <rafa_> DozedOnLinuz: would that mess with my trackpad?
[01:07] <DozedOnLinux> csky_max: i have it so it does forward on Firefox, but thats the extent of it. hardly usefull like that
[01:07] <dmi3on> geirha, no its just black screen with a white line on upper left corner
[01:07] <DozedOnLinux> rafa_: are you on laptop ?
[01:07] <linxeh> erisco: try this - http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:sbshMIJO2TIJ:alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install+alsa+checkout&hl=en&client=firefox-a&gl=uk&strip=1
[01:07] <Lvl21nerd> geirha: not sure i understand what u meant....when i was installing programs it said i had two broken packages....how do i figure out what they are
[01:07] <dmi3on> geirha, when i start from live cd i can see hard drive
[01:07] <rafa_> DozedOnLinux: yeah
[01:07] <DozedOnLinux> rafa_:  if it works, best leave it alone till you are sure, i dont know that will work for touchpads
[01:07] <Strife89> May I ask for a good place to find some simple themes?
[01:08] <godzirra_> Strife89: themes for what?
[01:08] <linxeh> erisco: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/ is up
[01:08] <MightyMack> Hey guys, anyone have a horrible freeze after logging in, ATI GPU.
[01:08] <Strife89> GNOME.
[01:08] <csky_max> strife89: gnome-look.org
[01:08] <geirha> Lvl21nerd: sorry, misread the nick.
[01:08] <bernier> Hi, my bootloader is on /dev/sda2  and my windows partition on /dev/sdb1. so in grub.conf it would be hd(what,what) to boot from windows?
[01:08] <rafa_> DozedOnLinux: i need to configurations, one for when i use the trackpad and another for when i use the mighty mouse
[01:08] <linxeh> ir8: what is the problem ?
[01:08] <Rezagrats> How can i add a keybind that's not in Ubuntu by default. i want one that opens the Applications menu
[01:08] <csky_max> rafa_ you should be able to use both devices at once without conflict..
[01:08] <Flannel> bernier: sdb1 is hd1,0
[01:08] <geirha> Rezagrats: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. Alt+F1 is the default shortcut.
[01:09] <ir8> linxeh: what PCI-X adaptec card that supports SAS drives would advise me toget.
[01:09] <DozedOnLinux> !touchpad | rafa_
[01:09] <ir8> linxeh: driver support.
[01:09] <MightyMack> My comp just freezes after loading the cursor, no way to ctrl-alt-del or anything.
[01:09] <linxeh> ir8: I dont understand
[01:09] <bernier> Flannell thank you
[01:09] <bernier> ill try this
[01:09] <dmi3on> geirha, my only option is to reinstall ?
[01:09] <rafa_> csky_max : yes i can use both at the same time but my mighty mouse buttons wont work
[01:10] <csky_max> MightyMack: did you change the kernel recently, the realtime kernels do that on one of my systems currently
[01:10] <Lvl21nerd> how do i figure out what 2 packages are broken
[01:10] <MightyMack> i just updated the system after a fresh install
[01:10] <csky_max> Lvl21nerd: run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' and it will tell you their names
[01:10] <Lvl21nerd> ty
[01:10] <MightyMack> csky_max: is there a fix for that?
[01:10] <csky_max> I'm unfamiliar with the Mighty Mouse, sorry.
[01:11] <zzl> i need to control the brightness of kubuntu
[01:11] <csky_max> Maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:11] <histo> Alright trying to install the binary driver but its not building the debs i'm getting ton of errors. I'm on Hardy running 64bit
[01:11] <zzl> no one is responding there so im hoping you can help
[01:11] <ir8> linxeh: unable to find something that will work.
[01:11] <zzl> brightness to work in kubuntu
[01:11] <geirha> dmi3on: No, you just need to make sure the BIOS tries to boot your harddrive, and that the bootloader is set up correctly for the new system.
[01:11] <zzl> anyone have a script?
[01:11] <graft> zzl: how do you mean, brightness? isn't that your monitor's business?
[01:12] <zzl> i have a laptop
[01:12] <csky_max> zzl: if you're on a notebook, try its built in brightness keys
[01:12] <Strife89> zzl: I'm making assumptions here. Right click on a panel.
[01:12] <zzl> and need the function keys for it to work
[01:12] <zzl> FN keys don't work
[01:12] <geirha> dmi3on: You should make sure the drive is connected as primary master. If you boot into the BIOS, it should tell you there.
[01:12] <Strife89> zzl: Right click on a panel and choose Properties.
[01:12] <sarah_bear> my vlc player plays the avi file, but i got no sound, how come?
[01:12] <godzirra_> bastid_raZor: Even odder, my laptop will connect to my linux box via putty, but my desktop will not.
[01:13] <graft> zzl: ah... what sort of laptop?
[01:13] <ari_stress> morning all :)
[01:13] <Strife89> sarah_bear: Do you have sound with other files?
[01:13] <sarah_bear> yes
[01:13] <histo> I bet its because I didn't have build-essentials installed and the wiki entry fails to mention that.
[01:13] <zzl> sony vaio vgn-nr110e
[01:13] <dmi3on> geirha, i know for shure that is boots hard drive where is ubuntu, how do i set up bootloader
[01:13] <dmi3on> ?
[01:14] <sarah_bear> should i remove totem?
[01:14] <sarah_bear> totem + vlc causes problems?
[01:14] <Strife89> sarah_bear: Have you tried it on another computer before.
[01:14] <Flannel> histo: binary drivers are ... binary, you don't need build-essential since there's nothing to build
[01:14] <sarah_bear> yes strife89
[01:14] <Strife89> sarah_bear: Not that I'm aware of.
[01:14] <Rezagrats> Danke geirha
[01:14] <kindofabuzz> how do i remove the eye candy from when you select an icon in the panel is does that little flash thing? =)
[01:15] <histo> Flannel: well anyone have any suggestions for why its failing to build the debs?
[01:15] <Flannel> histo: What page on the wiki are you following?
[01:15] <Wavesonics> why would i be getting the following?
[01:15] <Wavesonics> WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015  bind: Cannot assign requested address
[01:15] <Wavesonics> FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port 27015.
[01:15] <histo> Flannel: the ati binary driver howto
[01:15] <Flannel> histo: And you're on hardy?
[01:15] <MightyMack> man this sucks, i can't figure out this problem at all
[01:15] <histo> yes
[01:16] <histo> Flannel: yes
[01:16] <histo> !ask | MightyMack
[01:16] <geirha> dmi3on: You can try running the following command from a terminal in the liveCD session «sudo grub-install /dev/sda»
[01:16] <Flannel> histo: None of the instructions on that page fr Hardy include building anything.
[01:16] <cwill757> histo, he already asked it. haha
[01:16] <dmi3on> ok
[01:16] <histo> Flannel: yes there are
[01:16] <csky_max> kindofabuzz: Get the "CompizConfig Settings Manager" from ubuntu repositories, it shows up in Preferences, lets you fine tune those effects
[01:17] <csky_max> assuming you've got desktop effects on
[01:17] <graft> zzl: try xbacklight -set <value>
[01:17] <histo> Flannel: it says 8.04 sudo dpkg -P fglrx... blah whatever then proceed to gutsy directions.  I'm trying to install the driver from ati.com
[01:17] <cwill757> !compiz | kindofabuzz
[01:17] <MightyMack> histo, my problem was that when i login, it gets to loading the cursor then just freezes, no way to do anything with it.
[01:17] <histo> Its throwing all kinds of errors and there is no mention on that page about 64bit.
[01:17] <histo> MightyMack: what type of video card do you have.
[01:17] <kindofabuzz> csky_max: oh ok didn't realize it was a compiz thing
[01:18] <zzl> graft- that doesn't work either
[01:18] <MightyMack> ATI Radeon, with fglrx correctly installed
[01:18] <Flannel> histo: does installing build-essential help though?
[01:18] <dmi3on> geirha, thx for help
[01:18] <graft> zzl: what's it do?
[01:19] <erisco> linxeh, there is nothing on their ftp site
[01:19] <zzl> it just sits there
[01:19] <grndslm_> anybody know why my number pad won't work anymore, regardless of the state of the num lock key??
[01:19] <zzl> no change in the brightness
[01:19] <kaiwen> Hi, I have configured dhcp to start to work on my laptop, but the pc, which I connected with a "crossover" cable (yes it is a crossover cable) doesn't seem to be able to get an ip address from it.
[01:20] <Saladin> Is it fine to do a direct upgrade from 6.06 to 8.04.1?
[01:20] <kitche> Saladin: no
[01:20] <histo> Flannel: nah same error deb building is freakign otu from what I can see i'm consulting "the google"
[01:20] <kaiwen> Can anyone help me with my problem?
[01:20] <cwill757> !ask | kaiwen
[01:20] <graft> zzl: what values are you trying?
[01:20] <m4lmsteen> Saladin i just got odne reformating my other box doing upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04
[01:20] <legend2440> grndslm_: try hitting  the shift+num lock key
[01:20] <m4lmsteen> encountered a lot of problems
[01:20] <zzl> 75
[01:20] <erisco> linxeh, nevermind, firefox bug
[01:20] <kaiwen> cwill757, I already written my context before
[01:20] <cwill757> kaiwen: sorry i didn't see it above
[01:21] <kaiwen> ok.
[01:21] <nclx> hello I messed up my postgresql-8.3 installation, so I tried to apt-get remove it, and it wouldn't start back up properly after reinstall so I deleted lots of files related to postgresql including /etc/init.d/postgresql*, now when I apt-get install postgresql-8.3* it won't replace those files, what can I do fix it?
[01:21] <Saladin> kitche: Your advice then?
[01:21] <kitche> Saladin: upgrade to the versions in between
[01:22] <Smegzor> Is there a way to force one program to be in a different language from the rest?  A friend wants the computer in English, but Pidgin in Hebrew.
[01:22] <brendan_> irssi
[01:22] <Saladin> kitche: And how do I do that without using a CD? As I am wanting to upgrade my remotely hosted server.
[01:22] <brendan_> quit
[01:22] <nclx> Smegzor totally depends on the application
[01:23] <Smegzor> ok.  is there any msn client that can do this on linux?
[01:23] <dmi3on> geirha, could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[01:23] <nclx> does pidgin not do hebrew?
[01:23] <grndslm_> legend2440:  you're a genius!
[01:23] <linxeh> Smegzor: sure, just change the LANG variable before you start the app - any sensible app should pick it up
[01:23] <csky_max> saladin: one way is to change instances of "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "feisty", run "sudo aptitude update" then "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[01:23] <csky_max> repeat for feisty > hardy
[01:23] <geirha> Smegzor: LANG=xx_YY pidgin    You'll find the correct xx_YY by running «locale -a»
[01:23] <legend2440> !beer | grndslm_
[01:23] <Smegzor> how would that look in a command line?
[01:23] <georgy_28> nclx : to remove a program completly with configuration files : sudo apt-get remove --purge name
[01:24] <Smegzor> thanks
[01:24] <RadiCaL> Need some help, any flash videos I try and view (e.g. youtube) just produce a grey box. How do i change which plugin to use for flash, or reinstall the proper one?
[01:24] <nclx> georgy_28 will try thanks
[01:24] <ishmandoo> i am running ubuntu 8.04 and sometimes my computer stops playing mp3s and movies. It shows the length of the file but never plays
[01:24] <m4lmsteen> is there any particular reason my fresh ubuntu install reports using 17 gigs on my HD ?
[01:24] <ishmandoo> and ideas?
[01:25] <nclx> georgy_28 Okay I did that and reinstalled but it still isn't restoring my /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 script, any ideas on how to get that back?
[01:25] <csky_max> m4lmsteen: you can use 'sudo du -sh /*' to look at usage starting at your root filesystem
[01:25] <Saladin> csky_max: What does that do exactly? (I'm a bit of a newb ya see)
[01:25] <nclx> du = disk usage
[01:25] <csky_max> Saladin: It updates the sources to look at the next newest distro instead of the feisty packages
[01:25] <m4lmsteen> csky my root system says 2gb but there are other 1.5 GB partitions
[01:25] <m4lmsteen> a few others
[01:25] <georgy_28> nclx : sorry no
[01:25] <eric> hello
[01:26] <eric> anyone here answer a quick question?
[01:26] <csky_max> Saladin: This means it will then see all the newer versions, and update to them. Also dist-upgrade is a special command that tells the package manager that you're doing the full deal
[01:26] <csky_max> *instead of edgy
[01:26] <darthanubis> Adding a new service
[01:26] <l3d> so please would someone answer me about why is it  I dont see the script menu in nautilus unless I am root why is this
[01:26] <darthanubis> update-rc.d foo default
[01:26] <darthanubis> thats not working
[01:26] <kindofabuzz> csky_max: there isn't a setting for it.  i looked through the few things i have enabled in compiz and i can't seem to find it.  do you know what it's called exactly by any chance?
[01:27] <csky_max> m4lmsteen: du measures directories, it doesn't talk about partitions
[01:27] <csky_max> m4lmsteen: 'mount' will show partition status
[01:27] <graft> zzl: well try like 40 or something
[01:27] <csky_max> kindofabuzz: sorry, nope... i remember seeing about 300 settings in that app, I'm sure it would be there if anywhere.
[01:27] <m4lmsteen> csky yeah... i right clicked on my 'file system' in the gui and checked the properties is where i seen the 17GB used
[01:27] <dmi3on> geirha, that what ubunutu tell wheh i try you command could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[01:27] <m4lmsteen> was just curious to where all the space was being used...
[01:28] <zzl> i'll get that down later because lots of people seem to have problems with it
[01:28] <l3d> so please would someone answer me about why is it  I dont see the script menu in nautilus unless I am root why is this
[01:28] <Saladin> csky_max: No instances of edgy found in file
[01:28] <csky_max> m4lmsteen: Right, so if you want to see what's using it, you run 'du -sh /*' in a terminal and it will print total size used for each top level directory
[01:28] <darthanubis> I need to add a new service via the command line please?
[01:28] <csky_max> saladin: put /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin.com for me plz
[01:28] <m4lmsteen> csky ok... soon as i get back on the other machine ill check that
[01:28] <zzl> another question: how can i images my ubuntu/kubuntu harddrive?
[01:28] <nclx> darthanubis what service?
[01:28] <m4lmsteen> ill bbs... ill enter xchat from mydesktop
[01:28] <zzl> like NORTON GHOST for WINDOWS
[01:28] <Saladin> csky_max: I did notice, however, a lot of dapper; I'm running 6.06 right now
[01:28] <darthanubis> nclx, please tell me it does not matter?
[01:29] <nclx> zzl download and burn g4l or g4u google for them
[01:29] <darthanubis> nclx, I just need the "ubuntu way it done"?
[01:29] <l3d> remastersys  zzl
[01:29] <nclx> darthanubis sudo apt-get install <server-name>; /etc/init.d/<server-name> start;
[01:29] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:29] <zzl> which is the easiest to use?
[01:29] <dmi3on> geirha, that what ubunutu tell wheh i try you command could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device
[01:29] <solexious> [Q] What is the default dir for web pages in apache2 on ubuntu?
[01:30] <nclx> zzl both are slightly different, look at them, look at g4l first
[01:30] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:30] <nclx> g4l I.E. Ghost For Linux
[01:30] <darthanubis> nclx, that does not makke the server start by default. I know how to apt-get, and start the service. How does one put it into the correct runlevel please?
[01:30] <nickrud> solexious /var/www
[01:30] <Saladin> csky_max: Should I then be changing dapper to whatever is next?
[01:30] <csky_max> saladin: Ok, so for your case you are looking at no less than three dist-upgrades to get up to Hardy
[01:30] <solexious> nickrud: thank you
[01:30] <nclx> update-rc.d <service> defaults I believe
[01:30] <csky_max> or four even
[01:30] <darthanubis> The Debian way, which should be the ubuntu way, is not working, when it used to. So I'm wonder, what changed if anything?
[01:30] <csky_max> Yes, 'edgy' is the next after 'dapper'
[01:30] <nickrud> darthanubis when you install it with ubuntu, it automatically installs itself in run levels
[01:31] <Saladin> csky_max: Can you PM me the order I need to do it please? Things get so lost in here.
[01:31] <csky_max> dapper, edgy, feisty, hardy are the names
[01:31] <nickrud> darthanubis stepping back a little, that sounds more like a server issue than a runlevel issue
[01:31] <geirha> dmi3on: Try mounting the root filesystem and run «sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/disk /dev/sda»
[01:31] <darthanubis> nickrud, could you tell me how to inssert the service into the correct runlevel should the automagical way FAILS
[01:32] <csky_max> I always copy/paste the current line, comment out the old version for history, then change the distro codename in the copied line. Helps see what the box used to be using.
[01:32] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:32] <dmi3on> ok, thx
[01:32] <darthanubis> nickrud, I'm just trying to get proper syntax for the task which I'm asking atm?
[01:32] <l3d> remastersys  zzl
[01:32] <l3d> remastersys  zzl
[01:32] <l3d> oops
[01:32] <FloodBot1> l3d: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:32] <csky_max> darthanubis: did 'update-rc.d defaults' work?
[01:32] <dmi3on> i think i will reinstall
[01:32] <l3d> so please would someone answer me about why is it  I dont see the script menu in nautilus unless I am root why is this
[01:32] <darthanubis> csky_max, nope, thats why I'm puzzled
[01:32] <zzl> remastersys is good?
[01:32] <l3d> yes
[01:33] <Wavesonics> i put a console command in a file and am trying to run it like ./someFileWithCommands but it doesnt execute it properly
[01:33] <kitche> Saladin: by doing it though apt-get like what's recommended
[01:33] <nickrud> darthanubis update-rc.d start <sequence> 2 3 4 5 stop 0 1 6
[01:33] <csky_max> saladin: make that list.... dapper, edgy, feisty, gutsy, hardy    and soon intrepid
[01:33] <DozedOnLinux> zzl:  i looked for remastersys in repo's but couldnt find it
[01:33] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:33] <nickrud> darthanubis update-rc.d start <order> 2 3 4 5 stop <order> 0 1 6 may be clearer
[01:33] <qr> Wavesonics: what does "doesn't execute properly" mean specifically
[01:34] <csky_max> Wavesonics: in console do 'chmod +x <file>'
[01:34] <csky_max> to make it an executable script
[01:34] <Saladin> csky_max: No repos found for edgy. Is it still supported?
[01:34] <Wavesonics> qr: it is suppose to execute screen for a certain program, but when i try and attach the screen, it says it doesnt exist
[01:34] <LetsGo67> How do I remove instruments from a song?
[01:34] <darthanubis> whenever I use update-rc.d with the server and default, I get the built in help from update-rc.d
[01:34] <georgy_28> update-rc.d start <order> 2 3 4 5 . stop <order> 0 1 6 .  that's the right command
[01:34] <nickrud> darthanubis then you have problems other than setting up runlevels. Maybe you should simply say what the real problem is
[01:34] <geirha> !edgy | Saladin
[01:34] <csky_max> saladin: Unsure. I would actually look at researching the official recommendations for going from Ubuntu 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS
[01:34] <qr> Wavesonics: have you tried executing the commands manually to make sure they're correct?
[01:35] <kitche> Saladin: edgy is not supported anymore you have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list to let you upgrade
[01:35] <Wavesonics> qr: yes they work fine manually
[01:35] <nickrud> georgy_28 yep, missed the period thanks
[01:35] <darthanubis> nickrud, I can't say it any clearer
[01:35] <darthanubis> I've described EXACTLY what is occuring
[01:35] <LetsGo67> Hpw
[01:35] <LetsGo67> Hlw dl yo make a mashup?
[01:35] <nickrud> darthanubis you finally did. what's the service you're trying to start? Is it in /etc/init.d
[01:35] <nickName> [Question] Is it possible to have gedit auto detect highlight mode when opening INI files? It can be done manually by going to View>Highlight, but what I want to know is how to make it automatic, like how gedit detects C source for example
[01:36] <LetsGo67> !mashup
[01:36] <LetsGo67> !rockband
[01:36] <LetsGo67> !fretsonfire
[01:36] <bjb1959> all of a sudden when I reboot all of my computers lose the dns entry and thus my internet connection until I manually enter the number again. any idea how to fix this?
[01:36] <LetsGo67> !stepmania
[01:36] <csky_max> Saladin: Aaha!! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From 7.10 or 6.06 LTS to 8.04 LTS
[01:36] <csky_max> Saladin: That page describes your case and the recommended procedures
[01:36] <nickrud> LetsGo67 don't abuse the bot, you can ask him questions in pm
[01:36] <darthanubis> nickrud, its absolutely in the correct dir
[01:36] <LetsGo67> How do I remove vocals?
[01:36] <darthanubis> never had this issue before
[01:37] <darthanubis> and I really don't want a lecture on the service I'm using as it's not "ubuntu approved":/
[01:37] <nickrud> darthanubis and   sudo update-rc.d  <exactservicenameaswrittenininit.d> defaults
[01:37] <csky_max> Saladin: I *think* you may be lucky enough to be able to go 6.06 > 7.10 > 8.04, but that page will have those details
[01:37] <nickrud> darthanubis fails?
[01:37] <the|navigator> I'm trying the a3 livecd and just get a Kernel Panic when trying to run live or trying to install direct.
[01:37] <qr> LetsGo67: unless you have the a song with vocals as a seperate track removing them really is not an easy task at all (if it's even possible_
[01:38] <darthanubis> nickrud, yes sir
[01:38] <Wavesonics> got it working, thanks all
[01:38] <RadiCaL> Need some help, any flash videos I try and view (e.g. youtube) just produce a grey box. How do i change which plugin to use for flash, or reinstall the proper one?
[01:38] <csky_max> darthanubis: the other way if the scripts aren't working to insert your service, is put it in /etc/rc.local  before the last line 'exit 0'
[01:38] <Saladin> csky_max: Alright. Though... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades says you can do a direct upgrade. Do you not recommend that though?
[01:38] <Wavesonics> one last question, i want this program to run as a certain user, but i want it to runa t start up, how do i do that?
[01:38] <csky_max> Best advice I can give is follow what that page says.
[01:39] <nickrud> darthanubis that is very strange, since all update-rc.d is look at the service name you give and create links based on it. There's got to be something you're missing. Try putting darthtest in /etc/init.d , and running  sudo update-rc.d darthtest defaults
[01:39] <newuser> my print jobs immediately go into a held status any ideas?
[01:39] <darthanubis> csky_max, yeah I have mythzmserver in ther elike that, I don't like that at all. Myth Zoneminder server NEVER had to be put there like that.
[01:39] <qr> Wavesonics: you can use su to run programs as another user (su -c "command" username, I believe)
[01:39] <the|navigator> Is Ibex a3 Live CD known to kernel panic?
[01:39] <darthanubis> It's like with Hardy some servers just will not start automagically like they should
[01:39] <Wavesonics> qr: thanks :)
[01:40] <csky_max> darthanubis: maybe pastebin your init script, something in it could be choking update-rc.d?
[01:40] <csky_max> darthanubis: i know on centos, chkconfig is very picky
[01:40] <zzl> what's there cool to do in kubuntu?
[01:40] <csky_max> zzl: play with dcop :)
[01:40] <zzl> dcop?
[01:40] <nickrud> darthanubis does /etc/rc2.d have SNN<yourinitscript> ?
[01:40] <godzirra> Can anyone please help me?  I can't access my linux desktop from my windows desktop.  But for some reason I can access it from my laptop.  (I used to be able to access from windows desktop until I reinstalled linux)
[01:40] <csky_max> zzl: dcop lets you control kde apps with command line, in short
[01:41] <zzl> sweet
[01:41] <csky_max> each app has its own hooks, you can browse them
[01:41] <darthanubis> nickrud, yes
[01:41] <zzl> that's pretty sweet
[01:41] <the|navigator> Odd.  I'm getting a kernel panic that 'tried to kill the idle task'...
[01:41] <RadiCaL> Need some help, any flash videos I try and view (e.g. youtube) just produce a grey box. How do i change which plugin to use for flash, or reinstall the proper one?
[01:41] <bazhang> godzirra, what version of ubuntu
[01:41] <godzirra> 8.04
[01:41] <csky_max> try 'dcop kicker kicker restart' as an example
[01:41] <zzl> i want to use like Photoshop with Wine but it doesn't work for some reason
[01:41] <zzl> weird
[01:42] <MrVirus> !wine
[01:42] <nickrud> darthanubis then you have correctly used update-rc2.d . The problem is in the server startstop script.
[01:42] <molgrum> RadiCaL: have you installed several?
[01:42] <bazhang> godzirra, you sure this is a linux problem and not a windows one
[01:42] <nickrud> *update-rc.d
[01:42] <godzirra> bazhang: No.  But it worked before the reinstall, so I'm not sure what it could be.
[01:42] <csky_max> darthanubis: pastebin the script if ya can
[01:42] <SubOne> I know I've seen in the filebrowser a view where you see blocks of rectangles and squares dividing up the window based on their contents sizes, is this possible in nautilus? or some other file browser?
[01:42] <molgrum> RadiCaL: check about:plugins
[01:42] <RadiCaL> molgrum: nope, i assumed the one I am using now has stopped working
[01:42] <csky_max> SubOne: That sounds like old KDE
[01:42] <MrVirus> i just installed Vbox.. but cant seem to find the run command for it..
[01:43] <molgrum> RadiCaL: adobe?
[01:43] <bazhang> godzirra, this is using putty?
[01:43] <csky_max> SubOne: So, kongueror 3-series
[01:43] <zzl> yeah Adobe Photoshop cs2
[01:43] <kitche> MrVirus: it should be in your menu under other or something along those lines
[01:43] <godzirra> bazhang: correct.
[01:43] <csky_max> *konqueror
[01:43] <godzirra> bazhang: works fine from the laptop, but not the desktop.
[01:43] <godzirra> It used to work fine from both
[01:43] <godzirra> and I havent changed settings on either.
[01:43] <SubOne> csky_max: how can i view files in this or a similar way? i am trying to locate files that are too large because i have 4gb left on a DL and little space left
[01:43] <bazhang> godzirra, not sure; does that rely on fstab in ubuntu
[01:43] <solexious> [Q] chmod of ttyS0 resets on restart, ho can i stop this happening?
[01:43] <kitche> zzl: some photoshops don't work with wine depends on which version you have
[01:43] <godzirra> bazhang: Not that I know of.
[01:43] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; i had offending keys in my .ssh/known_hosts which after i corrected fixed the problem. i was being given an error though since i told it strict checking
[01:43] <RadiCaL> molgrum, i believe I was using adobe... though now I dont see it listed... is there a way to manually install it just to be safe?
[01:43] <histo> POS ATI
[01:44] <bazhang> zzl, check appdb
[01:44] <histo> ARGHHH
[01:44] <cwill757> !vbox | MrVirus
[01:44] <zzl> CS2
[01:44] <kitche> solexious: by adding a rule in udev.conf
[01:44] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: I removed all my keys in .ssh/known_hosts when I reinstalled.
[01:44] <csky_max> SubOne: I always start with 'du -sh *' in my home directory
[01:44] <histo> Wasted my night on this garbage. Company should be out of business I swear.
[01:44] <kitche> zzl: yeah that doesn't work in wine from what I remember
[01:44] <molgrum> RadiCaL: you can try to reinstall it yeah
[01:44] <godzirra> histo: does the box say "Linux"? :)
[01:44] <Aldork> Sorry for newb question; How do I check what hardware this machine has and the drivers it uses?
[01:44] <nickrud> solexious it gets reset by udev on boot, why do you want to change the permissions on it from the default?
[01:44] <darthanubis> ntp daemon does not appear to do anything either
[01:45] <bazhang> !appdb | zzl check here
[01:45] <molgrum> RadiCaL: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[01:45] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; right, you were getting a time out. windows box is unable to see Ubuntu box?
[01:45] <darthanubis> trying to run the switzerland application
[01:45] <histo> Has anyone every sucessfully installed ati driver from ati.com on hardy 64bit?
[01:45] <darthanubis> but one thing at a time
[01:45] <sjoerd> ip a s
[01:45] <solexious> nickrud, as i want to give w/r to all
[01:45] <csky_max> SubOne: Here's the exact thing you were looking for:  'sudo find / -size +50M -print' to show all really big files on your system
[01:45] <nickrud> darthanubis sudo invoke-rc.d <service> start will start service
[01:45] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: Correct.  Not sure why.
[01:45] <kitche> histo: people have a hard enough time with 32bit  64bit is almost impossible with the fglrx driver
[01:45] <nickrud> solexious add what ever user you want to use the ttyS0 to the dialout group
[01:45] <darthanubis> and mythzmserver is just the regualr package from the repos
[01:46] <casa> hi
[01:46] <zzl> wow. call of duty 4 can be played with WINE on ubuntu. haha
[01:46] <nickName> [Question] Is it possible to have gedit auto detect highlight mode when opening INI files? It can be done manually by going to View>Highlight, but what I want to know is how to make it automatic, like how gedit detects C source for example
[01:46] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: I can't even see the webpage on the browser of the windows desktop.
[01:46] <solexious> nickrud, how can i add root?
[01:46] <darthanubis> I don't know if any of you use mythtv and can test that?
[01:46] <csky_max> zzl: even simcity 4 installs and plays with no hacks on wine 1.0
[01:46] <darthanubis> they don't in ubuntu-mythtv
[01:46] <solexious> nickrud, via shell
[01:46] <bazhang> !test
[01:46] <bazhang> !uptime
[01:46] <Reformer81> Does F-Spot really not support drag-and-drop to other apps??
[01:46] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; oh, then it is your windows box not able to network. appears to have nothing to do with ubuntu :)
[01:47] <nickrud> solexious root owns it, has write permissions. To add some other user, do   sudo adduser <user> dialout .  Any user you add to a group is required to log out completely and then log back in for the group change to take effect
[01:47] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: sigh.  I'd still be happy to hear suggestions.  It started doing this immediately after I reinstalled.
[01:47] <godzirra> it worked fine before.
[01:47] <godzirra> nothing has changed on the windows box.
[01:48] <solexious> nickrud, thank you
[01:48] <erisco> HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! apt wants to remove nearly every package on my computer because of a dependency problem
[01:48] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; i have to get ready for work.. but on the windows box you are unable to get to the internet?
[01:48] <JayVomDach> i have a Terratec Cinergy HT PCMCIA and analog (cable) video works fine, but there's no sound. can anyone help? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/34938/)
[01:48] <SubOne> csky_max: I ran that command and its not doing anything... does it take a while?
[01:49] <nickrud> erisco heh. How'd you get in that situation?
[01:49] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: nope.  Network works fine on windows box.
[01:49] <erisco> nickrud, I was trying to install a newer libasound2 package
[01:49] <erisco> nickrud, after it installed it said there were unmet dependencies... now apt wants to remove 100's of MB of packages that are not even related
[01:49] <erisco> what do I do?
[01:49] <nickrud> erisco so now a lot of stuff requires the older libasound2, and wants to leave?
[01:49] <zzl> another interesting question: can kubuntu/ubuntu get a virus/spyware/keylogger?
[01:49] <sarah_bear> hey guys, im trying to watch a movie, but i have no sound
[01:49] <erisco> nickrud, yes!
[01:49] <sarah_bear> any ideas what might be wrong?
[01:50] <bastid_raZor> godzirra; oh.. in that case i've got to run. good luck :)
[01:50] <SubOne> nvm here it comes
[01:50] <erisco> nickrud, I cannot get it back either
[01:50] <nickrud> erisco  apt-cache policy libasound2 , put that on pastebin
[01:50] <erisco> nickrud, apt won't seem to let me... what do I do...
[01:50] <godzirra> bastid_raZor: oh well.  Thanks anyways.
[01:50] <qr> zzl: sure, but virii for linux are far, far rarer than virii for windows
[01:50] <sarah_bear> >
[01:50] <darthanubis> nvrmind about the ntp daemon, its just slow
[01:50] <kane> hi
[01:50] <csky_max> SubOne: Yeah, could take a while. try it with "find ~ -size +5M -print" for a quicker example.
[01:50] <sarah_bear> sound in my totem, mplayer, and vlc dont work anymore, i dont know whats wrong
[01:51] <csky_max> SubOne: (show all 5M or greater files in my home)
[01:51] <bazhang> zzl, for interesting chat please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:51] <erisco> nickrud, http://pastebin.ca/1094315
[01:51] <kane> Do i need internet connection to get build essential
[01:51] <erisco> nickrud, I've already lost a few packages, including wine
[01:51] <erisco> nickrud, I aborted once I realized what it was doing
[01:51] <nickrud> erisco let me look, geesh :)
[01:51] <qr> kane: you should be able to get it off an install cd if you still have that
[01:51] <sarah_bear> hey guys, why dont my vlc, and totem have sound?
[01:51] <erisco> nickrud, this is freaky
[01:52] <kane> I don't have cd
[01:52] <kane> But i installed Ubuntu
[01:52] <kaie> 8.04.1 live, liveusb package installed, creating a live stick. 3 years old ibm laptop. it takes really really long. cpu idle. minimal i/o. but top says: 95% wait
[01:52] <erisco> nickrud, all over my damn usb headphones that just happened to be slightly glitchy
[01:52] <nickrud> erisco sudo apt-get install libasound=1.015-3ubuntu4 , this will reinstall the old version
[01:52] <nickrud> erisco gah. wrong line
[01:53] <sarah_bear> nickrud, i was able to play mp3s yesterday, now i can't, any ideas whats wrong with my totem?
[01:53] <nickrud> sudo apt-get install libasound2=1.0.15-3ubuntu4  erisco (cut and pasted my typo'd version)
[01:53] <nickrud> sarah_bear not off the top of my head. Can you play mp3's in anything else?
[01:53] <qr> kane: since you obviously have an internet connection somewhere (ie you're on irc) you could figure out the correct version of the package you need and download it manually from the ubuntu repos on another machine and transfer it via some non-internet means... but that's a pretty roundabout way of doing things, an internet connection would be much simpler.
[01:53] <sarah_bear> no i can't not even banshee
[01:53] <erisco> nickrud, I think that may have fixed it
[01:53] <sarah_bear> i tried to update to hardy today, but i cancled it
[01:53] <erisco> nickrud, now to try and figure out what I lost
[01:53] <sarah_bear> that might have anything to do with it?
[01:53] <godzirra> Can anyone think of a reason why my windows box can't reach my linux box, but my laptop can?
[01:54] <l3d> so please would someone answer me about why is it  I dont see the script menu in nautilus unless I am root why is this
[01:54] <nickrud> sarah_bear oh, yes, having a mixed gutsy/hardy will definitely break stuff
[01:54] <bazhang> sarah_bear, cancelled it? please clarify
[01:54] <qr> godzirra: can't reach as in cant even ping?
[01:54] <sarah_bear> it has 30 minutes left, so i hit "cancle" button
[01:54] <sarah_bear> then it said "restoring to previous settings"
[01:54] <kane> ok so how where cna i download it
[01:54] <kitche> l3d: because it's a root only thing
[01:55] <nickrud> l3d for me, I had to drop a script into ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts and restart nautilus to see it in the context men
[01:55] <l3d> wasnt befor
[01:55] <l3d> e
[01:55] <bazhang> kane, what do you need build-essential for
[01:55] <kane> IDK
[01:55] <kane> i just need it
[01:55] <kitche> l3d: it is if you don't have a nautilius-scripts directory like nicrud stated
[01:55] <bazhang> kane, if you dont know then why download it
[01:55] <godzirra> qr: correct.  Can not ping, ssh, or access the websites via ip.  I'm using putty to connect to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:55] <godzirra> which is the linux box ip.
[01:56] <JayVomDach> godzirra: same subnet?
[01:56] <qr> godzirra: that sounds like a problem with the windows box
[01:56] <l3d> yes but in the directory its shows the script audio convert i added through synaptic but its root
[01:56] <csky_max> godzirra: is there a vpn client on your windows side that is getting exclusive control on your network interface?
[01:56] <sarah_bear> argh i cant even listen to my music! what gives...
[01:56] <jgrimes> My Ubuntu 8.04 install disk goes to a busybox command line after I attempt to Install. The checksum comes out correctly.
[01:56] <jhb1608> I have issues with my Genius Mousepen 8x6, the buttons don't work, and the X.org I think it is wrong, can someone help me?
[01:56] <godzirra> csky_max: no.  Fresh install of windows.
[01:57] <godzirra> qr: no idea.  It used to work.
[01:57] <nickrud> sarah_bear what does lsb_release -r say?
[01:57] <bazhang> kane, any reason not to run an ethernet cable to your computer without broadcom wireless and download the packages to it?
[01:57] <sarah_bear> 7.10
[01:57] <madadam> How can I mount my webcam in /dev/video0?
[01:57] <csky_max> godzirra: I'd be looking at things like, is the patch cable the same, can I contact it from the windows box booted onto an Ubuntu live cd, hardware testing like that
[01:58] <qr> godzirra: well obviously something has changed, have you installed/uninstalled anything recently (on either machine)?
[01:58] <godzirra> csky_max: well, the windows box works fine network wise.
[01:58] <madadam> the webcam is Bus 007 Device 002: ID 0c45:62c0 Microdia
[01:58] <godzirra> qr: I reinstalled ubuntu ;p
[01:58] <sarah_bear> nickrud 7.10
[01:58] <godzirra> csky_max: everything EXCEPT getting to the .99 linux box works.
[01:58] <nickrud> sarah_bear and grep -l gutsy /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:58] <csky_max> i would be curious to see if that system can reach it booted into ubuntu live
[01:59] <nonewmsgs> dud you send him to the webcam compatability site?
[01:59] <csky_max> if so, you know it's a windows issue
[01:59] <sarah_bear> nickrud /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:59] <csky_max> not anything to do with your "cloud" or hardware
[01:59] <jhb1608> I readed this guide and I got lost. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TabletSetupWizardpen#Everything%20seems%20to%20work,%20except%20pressure%20sensitivity
[01:59] <qr> godzirra: have you tried the other way round? Ie contacting the windows machine from the linux machine?
[01:59] <kane> once i get the file how do i install it
[01:59] <nickrud> sarah, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras , that should make sure the stuff that totem/banshee needs to play mp3's.
[01:59] <ApOgEE-> hehe
[01:59] <godzirra> qr: nothing I can really do to connect.  DOes windows return pings by default?
[01:59] <nickrud> sarah_bear see above, for you :)
[01:59] <bazhang> kane, would you mind answering my questions?
[01:59] <MrPickle> I have a doozy here: Have been trying to get wireless functional on a laptop since last night. Finnally have all the right drivers and successfully installed the ndiswrapper module as well as the ndisgtk module which worked perfectly at getting the drivers to install, however, now I lack the ability to use any kind of wireless utility; it has completely dissapered from the networking console.
[01:59] <madadam> please help me
[02:00] <qr> godzirra: it should
[02:00] <sarah_bear> nickrud i did that 30 minutes ago
[02:00] <jhb1608> it was supposed to work in my latest Ubuntu, but it won't.
[02:00] <godzirra> qr: times out.
[02:00] <m_newton> hey
[02:00] <csky_max> godzirra: Windows firewall status?
[02:00] <sarah_bear> nickrud ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[02:00] <sarah_bear> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:00] <nickrud> sarah_bear ok. That's all the obvious stuff.
[02:00] <qr> godzirra: how about the connecting from the laptop that can reach linux to the machine that can't, does that work?
[02:01] <sarah_bear> ah nickrud, i am not sure what it is!
[02:01] <sarah_bear> sigh
[02:01] <Shamoun> hey all, what is the easiest way to wipe my mbr? i need to uninstall grub but i want to leave the windows partiton in tact
[02:01] <jhb1608> I have issues with my Genius Mousepen 8x6, how do I fix the issues?
[02:01] <godzirra> qr:  the laptop can't reach the windows machine either.
[02:01] <godzirra> ergh.
[02:01] <td123> !mbr | Shamoun
[02:01] <godzirra> csky_max: checking
[02:01] <DozedOnLinux> bazhang:  i get that from time to time, i believe it to be the excitement of the environment.
[02:01] <qr> godzirra: that's definitely a problem with the windows machine then
[02:01] <need-help> Question: Whats a good upto date small Ubuntu distro 700MB or less that includes gcc compiler ready to compile once installed?
[02:02] <nickrud> sarah_bear try   totem  <mp3file> in a terminal, and see if you get any errors.
[02:02] <dmi3on> i reinstall ubuntu second hard drive and when i restart and boot from that hard drive its doenst strat just blak screen with a white line in a corner
[02:02] <Shamoun> td123, thanks
[02:02] <td123> need-help: you could try using debian lenny
[02:02] <bazhang> DozedOnLinux, he's not sure why he needs build-essential though
[02:02] <dmi3on> what is the problem ?
[02:02] <MrPickle>  I have a doozy here: Have been trying to get wireless functional on a laptop since last night. Finnally have all the right drivers and successfully installed the ndiswrapper module as well as the ndisgtk module which worked perfectly at getting the drivers to install, however, now I lack the ability to use any kind of wireless utility; it has completely dissapered from the networking console. [[using latest stable distro 8.04 Hardy
[02:02] <csky_max> need-help: Ubuntu 8.04 standard release CD, then install the package "build-essentials"
[02:02] <godzirra> csky_max: I tihnk you're right and its windows firewall being retarded.
[02:02] <dmi3on> i cant see hard drive in window i can see when i load with live cd
[02:03] <lonono> does someone know whether Ubuntu supports the ASUS P5Q Deluxe mainboard? I've searched with google and on the ubuntu website, but couldn't find any information
[02:03] <csky_max> godzirra: let's hope - from all you've said it sounds like windows software issue - the Firewall might just be doing it's job
[02:03] <sarah_bear> nickrud nothing happens
[02:03] <dmi3on> help plz
[02:03] <kindofabuzz> csky_max: was that you that recommended the copiz sttings for my problem?  want the answer taht fixed it? not compiz
[02:03] <sarah_bear> when i try to play mp3s in totem it just exits, in Banshee and VLC is hangs and wont play
[02:03] <MrPickle>  I have a doozy here: Have been trying to get wireless functional on a laptop since last night. Finnally have all the right drivers and successfully installed the ndiswrapper module as well as the ndisgtk module which worked perfectly at getting the drivers to install, however, now I lack the ability to use any kind of wireless utility; it has completely dissapered from the networking console.
[02:03] <godzirra> csky_max: could be.  I just added putty to the exceptions list though and I still don't connect. :/
[02:03] <nickrud> sarah_bear nothing? Does totem go back to the command line, does it stay operating until you hit clt-c?
[02:03] <MrPickle> anyones?
[02:03] <csky_max> kindofabuzz: if i recall you had a question not a problem ;) about the icon effect?
[02:04] <qr> godzirra: have you tried turning off the firewall entirely?
[02:04] <sarah_bear> soho@soho-desktop:~$ totem Flo Rida ft. T-Pain - Get Low.mp3
[02:04] <sarah_bear> soho@soho-desktop:~$
[02:04] <kindofabuzz> csky_max: yeah it's a gnome setting, gconf edit then /apps/panel/global/enable_animations
[02:04] <kindofabuzz> uncheck
[02:04] <jhb1608> I have issues with my Genius Mousepen 8x6, how do I fix the issues?
[02:04] <Shamoun> td123, that mbr info is actually the opposite of what i want to do, i basically want to know what the linux equivalent of fixmbr or fdisk /mbr is
[02:04] <godzirra> qr: not yet.
[02:04] <csky_max> kindofabuzz: thanks for the followup, i have had to go there only once - to disable tooltips
[02:04] <kindofabuzz> yeah did that too
[02:04] <td123> Shamoun: why don't you just boot to windows and type that in?
[02:04] <MrPickle>  I have a doozy here: Have been trying to get wireless functional on a laptop since last night. Finnally have all the right drivers and successfully installed the ndiswrapper module as well as the ndisgtk module which worked perfectly at getting the drivers to install, however, now I lack the ability to use any kind of wireless utility; it has completely dissapered from the networking console.
[02:05] <MrPickle> halp plz
[02:05] <qr> godzirra: well try that, you'll at least find out if it's a firewall issue or not before you beat your head against firewall settings trying to make it work
[02:05] <jhb1608> I have issues with my Genius Mousepen 8x6, how do I fix the issues?
[02:05] <godzirra> qr: I just did.  It still times out.
[02:05] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:   by chance m is Network Manager still installed ? if not > use Synaptic Package Manager and search for network manager
[02:05] <td123> Shamoun: or if you can't do it while your in windows, create a boot floppy with fdisk and fix using floppy :)
[02:05] <csky_max> godzirra: I'd definitely just shut off the Windows Firewall entirely, and see if it works
[02:05] <nickrud> sarah_bear I'm not a sound guy at all, these simple checks are about all I'm good for. Sorry
[02:05] <godzirra> csky_max: Yeah, trying that now.  Its still not working.
[02:05] <billybigrigger> i have a quick question here, im logged into my headless machine via vnc through an ssh tunnel, now how do i tell if this session is being closed when i close tightvnc?? like is there an uptime command for just this x session?
[02:05] <sarah_bear> i tried rhythembox and it hangs up too
[02:05] <csky_max> godzirra: I'd reboot too after that
[02:05] <sarah_bear> wont play
[02:05] <MrPickle>  I have a doozy here: Have been trying to get wireless functional on a laptop since last night. Finnally have all the right drivers and successfully installed the ndiswrapper module as well as the ndisgtk module which worked perfectly at getting the drivers to install, however, now I lack the ability to use any kind of wireless utility; it has completely dissapered from the networking console.
[02:05] <godzirra> csky_max: blah... okay.
[02:05] <csky_max> godzirra: you can try the ubuntu live cd while you're at it
[02:05] <pawel> hi.... has anybody experienced render problems with java apps in fire fox 3?
[02:05] <godzirra>  ya.
[02:05] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:   you can get to Network Manager by way of menu > System/Administration/Network
[02:05] <sarah_bear> cant even watch my new espisode of stargate atlantis nickrud :( im sad
[02:05] <csky_max> godzirra: good luck
[02:06] <Shamoun> td123, ill try it in windows,  for some reason i didn't think the tool was included lol, but it can't be done form a dos floppy because the sata drive isn't supported
[02:06] <lonono>  does someone know whether Ubuntu supports the ASUS P5Q Deluxe mainboard? I've searched with google and on the ubuntu website, but couldn't find any information
[02:06] <Firefishe> MrPickle: Have you considered using iwconfig?
[02:06] <Shamoun> ill try booting to windows and see
[02:06] <qr> billybigrigger: open a program , disconnect then reconnect, if the program is still there the session did not end
[02:06] <godzirra> csky_max: WAit, it works externally to ssh with putty.
[02:06] <nickrud> sarah_bear during the install, was it only in the download phase or had it started installing packages?
[02:06] <godzirra> It just doesnt work INTERNALLY.
[02:06] <sarah_bear> installing packages
[02:06] <csky_max> lonono: also look for comments on popular component shops like newegg.com, see if people confirm running linux on it
[02:06] <td123> Shamoun: if you try google, I'm pretty sure you'll find something :P, you're not the first one to ask that question
[02:07] <billybigrigger> qr, well ya xchat is still openen, term, and zenmap, so i was just guessing it was still open, but wanted to make sure
[02:07] <billybigrigger> qr, and i didnt see xchat resume a connection or freenode so...
[02:07] <MrPickle> dozedon linux: firefishe: iwconfig wont execute, and the network manager is what Im talking about when I say that the wireless connection disappeared
[02:07] <lisa_> how can I use truecrypt to encrypt my excisting Ubuntu partition?
[02:07] <qr> billybigrigger: yeah, if the programs stay open when you disconnect it means the session isn't ending.
[02:07] <pawel> hi.... has anybody experienced render problems with java apps in fire fox 3?
[02:07] <billybigrigger> connection to freenode i mean
[02:07] <nickrud> sarah_bear dpkg -l  gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
[02:07] <td123> Shamoun: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/ , you're welcome ;)
[02:08] <tofaffy> Would it be unsafe to allow read access to messages.log so conky can read it?
[02:08] <Shamoun> td123, thanks big time
[02:08] <lisa_> !truecrypt | tofaffy
[02:08] <sarah_bear> nickrud ii  gstreamer0.10- 0.10.5-4ubuntu GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
[02:08] <qr> billybigrigger: although if you want to be 100% sure you can sit xchat in an active channel (ie this one) and disconnect/reconnect and check to see if you have messages with timestamps from the time you were disconnected.
[02:08] <tofaffy> lisa_, how does that help me?
[02:08] <jhb1608> ubottu, can you help me?
[02:08] <sarah_bear> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:08] <sarah_bear> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend
[02:08] <sarah_bear> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[02:08] <sarah_bear> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[02:08] <sarah_bear> +++-[02:08] <FloodBot1> sarah_bear: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:08] <nickrud> sarah_bear ok, that's the gutsy version (at least not the hardy one)
[02:08] <lisa_> tofaffy: im not sure
[02:08] <tofaffy> !pastebin | sarah_bear
[02:08] <jhb1608> Well ubottu, you are smartl ol.
[02:08] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  search in Synaptic Package Manager for network-manager , then install it from there
[02:08] <billybigrigger> qr, so i can queue up some downloads and let 'r buck and i won't have to worry about my x sessions ending right? haha perfect
[02:08] <sarah_bear> sorrry
[02:08] <td123> !paste | sarah_bear
[02:09] <sarah_bear> ok
[02:09] <qr> billybigrigger: indeed
[02:09] <billybigrigger> qr, nice :P
[02:09] <k4r1m> hey guys im looking for a linux acrhive tool for mutli file support like zip, rar, tar,..etc that is gui based kthx
[02:09] <jhb1608> someone help me with my Genius Mousepen 8x6 issues?
[02:09] <nickrud> sarah_bear I'm not familiar with the sequence used by the live updater. If it was in the installing phase, I'm not sure what it means by 'returning to original' or whatever phrasing it used. I'd suggest completing the upgrade.
[02:10] <jhb1608> I followed the steps, and I knew I missed the steps
[02:10] <StrangePuppy> hi, is it possible to encrypt existing root partition with cryptsetup? or i need to resize it, create new partition, create new FS using cryptsetup, copy contents, remap new partition as root, delete old root partition, resize new one?
[02:10] <billybigrigger> qr, now i just need to conifgure xinetd/gdm/fluxbox and get rid of gnome, gnome over vnc sucks!!!! haha
[02:10] <sarah_bear> nickrud if i comeplete the update will my files be lost?
[02:10] <nickrud> k4r1m file-roller (the archive manager in gnome, comes by default)
[02:10] <sarah_bear> or will they still be there for the new upgrade?
[02:10] <nickrud> sarah_bear updating in place does not remove anything from your $HOME
[02:10] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux: when you say "install from there, could you elaborate at all?"
[02:10] <sarah_bear> oh okay, great!
[02:10] <kaiwen> Hi, I set up the dhcp on my laptop and connected it to the PC via crossover cable. the PC (also runnign ubuntu) can get an ip address from the dhcp on my laptop. The thing is though, I cannot ping my laptop through my PC, but I "can" ping my PC from my laptop. Can anyone tell me what is going on and what I need to do to fix this?
[02:10] <qr> billybigrigger: indeed. I use fvwm over vnc and it works quite nicely
[02:10] <csky_max> k4r1m: I use 'unrar' for rar
[02:10] <nickrud> sarah_bear that's one of the defining principles of upgrading from release to release
[02:11] <Reformer81> Does F-Spot really not support drag-and-drop to other apps??
[02:11] <pawel> has anybody experienced render problems with java apps in fire fox 3? I'm having problems with an online game. I need to resize each windows and fonts were messed up until I installed the font package
[02:11] <sarah_bear> ok i will let it finish upgrading thanks nickrud
[02:11] <k4r1m> nickrud: i need something for multi rar files that have somehting liek rar.01, rar.02..etc
[02:11] <MrPickle> kaiwen, it looks like theres some funky fw's at foot
[02:11] <k4r1m> csky_max: does it support what i just said?
[02:11] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  SPM (Synapaptic Package Manager) is a place in which you can install "packages"
[02:11] <nickrud> k4r1m if you install rar zip etc, the archive manager will use them
[02:11] <kaiwen> MrPickle oh what should i do ;)
[02:11] <sarah_bear> nickrud have you tried ibex yet?
[02:11] <csky_max> k4r1m: yes, it should. I did have to look up its options to do that, but I know i've put together multipart rar with "unrar" from ubuntu packages
[02:12] <Wavesonics> I've got an issue, I have a file containing a command, and I want to execute that file from a init.d script: http://pastebin.com/d7338f851
[02:12] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, yes I know, the network manager is already in there. what exactly are you telling me to do with this package that is already installed?
[02:12] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:   use the search featuer to find what you are looking for. try to inster network-manager in there and you will see network-manager, right click anc hoose install
[02:12] <Wavesonics> but it just isnt working when run from the init.d script
[02:12] <csky_max> k4r1m: it *may* be as simple as 'unrar e part01.rar' and it automatically looks for the rest
[02:12] <nickrud> sarah_bear heck no :) I use my laptop for work, and don't have time to mess with stuff that breaks. I usually wait for rc2 or so
[02:12] <MrPickle> kaiwen, disable any active firewalls and try the ping test again
[02:12] <kaiwen> , there are no active firewalls
[02:12] <dm> Anyone have multiple speakers working on a 7.1 card?
[02:12] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:   then you should be able to use NetManager in System/Administration/Network
[02:12] <MrPickle> kaiwen, do you havea router?
[02:12] <k4r1m> im not comfortable with cmd line yet, thats why i said im looking for gui based app
[02:12] <kaiwen> I'm using the laptop as a router
[02:13] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, i CAN use the network manager, but my wireless does not show up in there
[02:13] <kaiwen> the laptop is running dhcp and teh pc is gaining the ip from my laptop, it got the ip but i cannot ping my laptop
[02:13] <MrPickle> ...anymore
[02:13] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  does it say anythign of "wireless" ?
[02:13] <csky_max> Wavesonics: Simple script ... can you add to the pastebin the output when the commands are run in a root shell?
[02:13] <billybigrigger> qr, can i just configure gdm to load fvwm or do i have to use another display manager?
[02:13] <kaiwen> MrPickle, I hate network manager, use wicd instead, way better and easier
[02:14] <csky_max> Wavesonics: also note that you'll have to put that into a proper init script framework if you want to be able to call "stop" "start" etc
[02:14] <csky_max> !init
[02:14] <qr> billybigrigger: gdm can load fvwm fine
[02:14] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle: Wicd is not supported here. but then, use at your own risk
[02:14] <kaiwen> true.
[02:14] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, wheras before I started my campaign of blacklisting the b43legacy in the hopes that it was blocking ndiswrapper, i could; however, now, there is absolutely no listing for wireless
[02:14] <csky_max> Wavesonics: As !init said, try putting the script into /etc/rc.local - since it's not a full fledged start-stop script
[02:14] <k4r1m> anyone?
[02:14] <pawel> has anybody experienced render problems with java apps in fire fox 3? I'm having problems with an online game. I need to resize each windows and fonts were messed up until I installed the font package
[02:15] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  as far as blacklisting you woud need to blacklist the one you replaced with ndiswrapper
[02:15] <nickrud> Wavesonics you're missing the right structure for an init script, see /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup for a template, delete all the stuff in the start) section and put your commands there. Delete the commented stuff at the top, as well
[02:15] <bazhang> k4r1m, he told you file-roller
[02:15] <csky_max> k4r1m, I don't know of any gui for that in ubuntu - rar is very rar in the linux world
[02:15] <billybigrigger> qr, i would just have to dig around /etc/gdm/gdm.conf a bit and ill find it there?
[02:15] <csky_max> *rare
[02:15] <kaiwen> MrPickle do a depmod -a then roload the module
[02:15] <csky_max> bazhang: he wants to combine multipart rar
[02:15] <billybigrigger> qr, thats where i tell gdm to load fvwm yes?
[02:15] <nickrud> k4r1m if you install rar , file-roller should handle that
[02:15] <bazhang> csky_max, that does it fine
[02:15] <k4r1m> oh that was the name lol\
[02:15] <csky_max> wonderful, then there we are
[02:15] <k4r1m> kthx
[02:16] <Wavesonics> can I put mutliple commands in a su -c "command" user ?
[02:16] <qr> billybigrigger: um, for vnc or local?
[02:16] <billybigrigger> vnc
[02:16] <csky_max> Wavesonics: "foo && bar" for conditional execution, "foo; bar" if you dont' care if foo finishes
[02:16] <histo> Okay got the driver installed finally but when I go to log in to X its trying to run at 1950x1080 or something god awefull that my monitor doesn't support. failsafe works fine.
[02:16] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  to view blacklisted items in terminal > cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:16] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, well thats pretty much what I did, because it was causing as error when I tried to add ndis- to the modprobe, but after I got it in, the wireless utilities completely disapeared and they remained missing even after I removed the blacklist and restored the interfaces files to the defaults
[02:16] <Wavesonics> ok thnaks
[02:16] <histo> Installed the ati drivers. btw
[02:16] <need-help> thanks guys :)
[02:17] <kaiwen> Anyone, on my ping issue? to sum it up, I can ping computer 2, but computer 2 cannot ping comptuer 1
[02:17] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle: what card do you have ?
[02:17] <dmi3on> why i cant boot ubuntu from a second hard drive ?
[02:17] <qr> billybigrigger: you need to edit ~/.vnc/xstartup and change the 'twm &' line to load whatever window manager you want to use
[02:17] <Wavesonics> I already added my script using the init.d update thing, how should I properly remove it?
[02:17] <csky_max> kaiwen: 9 times out of 10 that's because computer 1 has a software firewall which won't allow ping through.
[02:17] <DozedOnLinux> dmi3on:  may depend on what partition GRUB is loaded on
[02:17] <histo> IS there a way in Hardy to specify the startup resolution of X
[02:17] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, its a broadcom 4309 [i know about the common issues with this, but its integrated to the machine]
[02:17] <kaiwen> csky_max there is not firewall enabled
[02:17] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle: yes BCM43xx is blacklisted
[02:17] <kaiwen> no*
[02:18] <k4r1m> its working, but seems to be way more slower than winrar on windows lol
[02:18] <Dr_willis> histo,  not that i have ever seen.
[02:18] <billybigrigger> so twm & fvwm
[02:18] <k4r1m> anything faster?
[02:18] <billybigrigger> qr, ?
[02:18] <csky_max> Wavesonics: update-rc.d foo remove
[02:18] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle: ndiswrapper may be the only successful way to have it functional
[02:18] <dmi3on> DozedOnLinux, i renstall ubuntu on a second drive, on a first i have vista
[02:18] <bazhang> k4r1m, that is more dependent on your computer speed
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> dmi3on: did you disconnect the first drive while installing Ubuntu?
[02:18] <DozedOnLinux> dmi3on:  GURB doesnt give you the option of booting Vista ?
[02:18] <dmi3on> noo
[02:19] <dmi3on> DozedOnLinu, noo
[02:19] <histo> Ofcourse why would they leave that alone.
[02:19] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux: I have the same wirless card ;)
[02:19] <qr> billybigrigger: no, you need to run fvwm instead of twm (twm is a window manager), so remove the twm and replace it with a call to the fvwm binary (it's /usr/bin/fvwm2 on my machine, it's probably the same on yours, but no gaurentees)
[02:19] <dmi3on> DozedOnLinu, when i try to boot from where is ubuntu instaled its just black screen
[02:19] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen:  did you get yours working properly ?
[02:19] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux
[02:19] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux yep
[02:19] <anon090> so i sudo apt-get installed compiz... what else do i need beacuse as it stands I don't see a compiz gui panel
[02:19] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux do you have the driver?
[02:19] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen: ndiswrapper way ?
[02:19] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux yep
[02:19] <bazhang> anon090, simple-ccsm
[02:19] <dmi3on> DozedOnLinux, after some time vista starts booting
[02:19] <anon090> thx
[02:19] <csky_max> !compiz | anon090
[02:19] <nickrud> anon090 compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:19] <dmi3on> any one can help
[02:20] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | dmi3on open a terminal and type "df" no quotes, then go here, and paste the results and give us the link
[02:20] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux did you install the driver by ndiswrapper already?
[02:20] <eric_luser> anyone here use cryptkeeper?
[02:20] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, thats what ive been reading in the forums, though I think I may have played around as root just a bit too long, might just have to start fresh and not too all that useless junk i was doing and undoing this morning
[02:20] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen: maybe you can assist MrPickle:
[02:20] <kaiwen> MrPickle?
[02:20] <kaiwen> MrPickle: did you install the ndiswrapper driver already for the network card
[02:20] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen: yes he needs help with ndiswrapper
[02:20] <kaiwen> lol
[02:20] <paolo> Hi *. Just to understand how ubuntu works. After the installation from live cd, does ubuntu modify the /etc directory depending on the hardware that it found?
[02:20] <kaiwen> there's an easy way
[02:20] <dmi3on> ubottu, how can i open terminal when ubuntu doesnt start you mean loas from cd ?
[02:20] <k4r1m> bazhang: no. everyone knows that winrar could extract files faster than 7zip and thats just a fact..
[02:20] <kaiwen> two command line is all
[02:20] <kaiwen> if.. he answers
[02:21] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle: kaiwen will help you with that
[02:21] <billybigrigger> qr, oh ok, well i thought gnome uses metacity fro the window manager???? what is twm???
[02:21] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen: he prob navigating settings or something else
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> dmi3on: wait, how are you here now, are you on a separate PC, or what?
[02:21] <dmi3on> yes
[02:21] <csky_max> paolo: briefly, yes
[02:21] <dmi3on> i have a lot of pc
[02:21] <kaiwen> well while we're waiting, anyone know about my ping problem?
[02:21] <kaiwen> definitely not a firewall
[02:21] <dmi3on> can any one help me ?
[02:21] <IndyGunFreak> dmi3on: what happens on the other PC when you turn it on, are you getting a Grub error, like Grub error 17, or what?
[02:21] <dmi3on> pls
[02:21] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen: no ping but DNS works ?
[02:22] <paolo> csky_max: do you have any idea where I can find a list of files that it touches after installation?
[02:22] <dmi3on> nothing
[02:22] <qr> billybigrigger: gnome uses metacity, but vnc uses twm by default. twm is an exceedingly light weight wm, which makes it good for vnc.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> dmi3on: be freakin patient, you've done a piss poor job explaining your problem,..
[02:22] <dmi3on> just black screen with white line in left upper corner
[02:22] <csky_max> k4r1m: try searching add/remove Programs under Applications menu for "rar", and install the alternatives to file-roller, and you can see if they are faster on your system.
[02:22] <kaiwen> DozedOnLinux laptop can ping PC1 but the PC can't ping laptop . PC received the ip from the laptop though
[02:22] <MrPickle> dozedonlinux, yes- and I added it to the modprobe successfully, but that blacklist for bcm43xx was not put in place until after ndiswrapper failed to be added
[02:22] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: what OSes are the two hosts running?
[02:22] <billybigrigger> qr, ahh cool, i didnt know that :P glad i do know thanks
[02:22] <dmi3on> after 1 min vista start booting
[02:22] <kaiwen> Ubuntu ftw
[02:22] <k4r1m> i did that.
[02:22] <bazhang> dmi3on, you need to give tons more info and follow through, not switching helpers every two seconds.
[02:22] <IndyGunFreak> dmi3on: so vista boots OK.. it just boots slow?
[02:22] <kaiwen> MrPickle I might be able to help, did yo uinstall the drivers already?
[02:22] <eric_luser> anyone know where stash list is kept for cryptkeeper?
[02:22] <DozedOnLinux> MrPickle:  kaiwen  will help you with that, as he has same setup
[02:22] <dmi3on> ok
[02:23] <csky_max> paolo: afraid not, but the 'tripwire' package is intended to keep track of all system files and their changes and alert you to that sort of thing - maybe check it out
[02:23] <kaiwen> MrPickle install*
[02:23] <dmi3on> bazhang, what kind info
[02:23] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: How are the two machines connected?
[02:23] <kaiwen> crossover joejoecircusboy
[02:23] <MrPickle> kaiwan, just re-blacklisted bcm43xx and restarting, going to redo the packages for ndiswrapper
[02:23] <paolo> csky_max: ok.. thanks for the hint
[02:23] <kaiwen> MrPickle, ok do that, install the driver with ndiswrapper via command line, once you have done that tell me.
[02:23]  * IndyGunFreak is going to bed.. later all.
[02:23] <k4r1m> it took it 3:21 to extract a file that was 804 mb, same rar on windows it gets exracted under 2 mins
[02:23] <nickrud> night IndyGunFreak
[02:24] <bazhang> cya IndyGunFreak
[02:24] <MrPickle> kaiwen, k
[02:24] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen thanks for helping him
[02:24] <dmi3on> bazhang, i load form livs CD install, reboot and tell bios to boot hard drive with installed ubuntu came up a black screen and after some time vista start booting
[02:24] <paolo> second question... is it possible to force apt-get upgrade not to upgrade package xyz?
[02:24] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: If you run tcpdump on the laptop, does it see the PC icmp echo request?
[02:24] <kaiwen> no problem, if only someone can help me ;_)
[02:24] <csky_max> k4r1m: if you are that curious about the performance difference, one fun thing to try would be to install Wine, (sudo aptitude install wine) then download and install your WinRar or whatnot, see if it a) works b) is faster
[02:24] <nickrud> paolo you can put the package on hold, sudo aptitude hold <pkgname>
[02:24] <MrPickle> kaiwen, can you do a tracert and see which hop is the first to time out?
[02:25] <paolo> nickrud: thanks
[02:25] <underandy> how can i change the name of my computer
[02:25] <kaiwen> wait let me get to joejoe first
[02:25] <nickrud> !hostname | underandy
[02:25] <dmi3on> bazhang, and i didnt try to switch helpers
[02:25] <kaiwen> cpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode
[02:25] <kaiwen> listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes
[02:25] <kindofabuzz> MrPickle: best guide i've seen for bcm43xx and ndiswrapper, except i used my drivers from linksys instead of wht they said: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[02:25] <kaiwen> joejoecircus that's what i have
[02:25] <kaiwen> MrPickle, did you install the driver for it yet?
[02:26] <bazhang> MrPickle, that link will get you going in under 5 minutes
[02:26] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: what about other traffic? (try telneting to a random port on the laptop from the PC)
[02:26] <csky_max> !wine | k4r1m More on Wine if you aren't familiar with it... it isn't 100% compatible but everything from windows Bittorrent clients to games work under it now
[02:26] <dmi3on> can any one help pls
[02:26] <dmi3on> why every body just ignore me ?
[02:26] <dmi3on> what i did wrong
[02:26] <dmi3on> or doing
[02:26] <csky_max> !spam | dmi3on
[02:27] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy no luck
[02:27] <nickrud> dmi3on nothing. No one is sure about your problem yet.
[02:27] <MrPickle> bazhang, only thing is this is hardy heron,
[02:27] <dmi3on> sorry, ok
[02:27] <zelrikriando> hi nickrud
[02:27] <bazhang> MrPickle, that covers all of them
[02:27] <nickrud> zelrikriando good evening
[02:27] <MrPickle> bazhang, really?
[02:27] <billybigrigger> qr, ok, install fvwm, editied my xstartup now do i have to restart xinetd and re-login or just restart gdm?
[02:27] <bazhang> yes
[02:27] <Brucee> i have been trying to install nvidia driver so i cna get compiz
[02:27] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy does it have to do with iptables?
[02:28] <Brucee> but it wont work with the nvidia card gf 7300 gs
[02:28] <kaiwen> MrPickle did you install the driver yet? try my way first
[02:28] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: don't think so... tcpdump operates lower on the stack than iptables
[02:28] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: (or lower than the filter, anyway)
[02:28] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy oh
[02:28] <qr> billybigrigger: oh you're running vnc through xinetd, I didn't realize that. I'm not really sure how that works TBH, I always run vnc manually.
[02:28] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  you may need nvidia-glx-new installed , by way of Hardware Drivers (restricted drivers)
[02:28] <MrPickle> kaiwen, first uninstalling, then rebooting
[02:29] <wols> joejoecircusboy: you are comparing apples and oranges there
[02:29] <Brucee> how do i choose what driver to use?
[02:29] <kaiwen> MrPickle ok,
[02:29] <joejoecircusboy> wols: ?
[02:29] <billybigrigger> qr, hmm
[02:29] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  in menu > System/Administration/Hardware Drivers
[02:29] <Brucee> ok
[02:29] <kaiwen> wols ???
[02:30] <JayVomDach> i have a Terratec Cinergy HT PCMCIA and want to use tvtime with it. analog (cable) video works fine, but there's no sound. can anyone help? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/34938/)
[02:30] <billybigrigger> qr, well i imagine if restart xinetd, it would kill this vnc session and start a new one using fvwm no? bah ill try it
[02:30] <mbrigdan> ubuntu uses the generic linux kernel right?
[02:30] <MrPickle> bazhang, that link is dead
[02:30] <qr> billybigrigger: sounds like it could work
[02:30] <bazhang> mbrigdan, no
[02:30] <Brucee> i tried that before DozedOnLinux but it freezes the mouse and keyboard
[02:30] <lisa_> has anyone successfuly encrypted a parttion on Hardy using truecrypt?
[02:30] <kaiwen> joejoecirucus, I'm using firestarter right now, but it's not detecting the ping either.
[02:30] <lisa_> !truecrypt
[02:30] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee: ok then you may have other issues .. is that a laptop by chance ?
[02:30] <octavius> anyone know C/C++ and can explain something for me?
[02:31] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: if you reverse the test (run tcpdump on the PC, ping fom the laptop), do you see traffic in both directions? (i.e the laptop's echo request, and the PC's reply?)
[02:31] <octavius> its using void*
[02:31] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff MrPickle this one? works fine here
[02:31] <Brucee> no, its amd 64 running ubuntu hardy 8.04
[02:31] <qr> octavius: it?
[02:31] <wols> kaiwen: iptables -L
[02:31] <kaiwen> let me try
[02:31] <mbrigdan> bazhang: oh? Whats it use then? I'm trying to get virtualbox working, so I need to figure out which version of the modules I need
[02:31] <lisa_> nobody?
[02:31] <octavius> qr: http://pastebin.com/d4d4e4a2d
[02:31] <bobertdos> octavius: You're off-topic for the channel, but I'll help you if you PM.
[02:31] <MrPickle> bazhang, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/fiesty_no-fluff
[02:31] <octavius> sorry
[02:31] <dm> How do i change the color of tooltips from the system bar
[02:31] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  have you already tried this in terminal ? >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <bazhang> mbrigdan, the vbox from repos or from vbox site
[02:32] <Brucee> yes DozedOnLinux
[02:32] <mbrigdan> bazhang: vbox from the repos
[02:32] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  ok
[02:32] <bazhang> MrPickle, try my link; yours has a typo
[02:32] <kaiwen> mrPickle try my way first plz, so we keep it consistent
[02:32] <Brucee> and i even added lines in /etc/modprobe.d/options
[02:32] <bazhang> mbrigdan, one from repos (ose) does not support usb you know
[02:32] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  type this in terminal (what does it say?) > sudo lshw -C video
[02:33] <kane> Hey
[02:33] <Brucee> something like 0x2222 in there
[02:33] <mbrigdan> bazhang: shoudn't be a problem. As long as it sees my mouse.
[02:33] <MrPickle> bazhang, which I just now noticed
[02:33] <kane> Does the broadcom 4311 use bcmxx frimware
[02:33] <Brucee> ok 1 sec DozedOnLinux
[02:33] <BrendanWelsh> I just rebooted and my screen is off centered in Ubuntu. Anybody have any idea how to fix this?
[02:33] <kaiwen> MrPickle, have you installed the driver yet???
[02:33] <kaiwen> MrPickle,via ndiswrapper
[02:33] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff kane here is the link to get you going
[02:33] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  just need model of videocard not the whole thing as of yet
[02:33] <kaiwen> it's not the driver's problem, it's the configuration of your modules
[02:33] <qr> BrendanWelsh: just a bit off centre? If so there should be options on your monitor to ajust it
[02:34] <MrPickle> kaiwen, trying to relocate the thread on the forums which have instructions for installation at terminal
[02:34] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:  under Product
[02:34] <MrPickle> kaiwen: or I can just use the package manager again....
[02:34] <dm> How do i change the color of tooltips ?
[02:34] <kaiwen> MrPickle NO
[02:34] <kaiwen> MrPickle do you ahve the windows driver for you card?
[02:35] <MrPickle> kaiwen, thats what I thought..and yeah, I have two copies, both of which were able to install before
[02:35] <kaiwen> ok install it via ndiswrapper
[02:35] <kaiwen> ndiswrapper -i *.inf or something like that
[02:35] <Brucee> DozedOnLinux it says geforce 7300 gs
[02:35] <kaiwen> in yoru directory
[02:35] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee:   now you can try this in terminal (any errors ?) > dmesg | grep NVRM
[02:35] <BrendanW1lsh> dang, I somehow managed to change my screen resolution and lock myself out when I changed it back to what it normally is.
[02:35] <BrendanW1lsh> Can I reset my resolution via. Terminal?
[02:36] <Brucee> no errors
[02:36] <kc8pxy> I'm trying to run some CLI programs,  and they try and open a firefox window. one tries to check the screen resolution. and they get rejected.  how do i fix this? it's not a problem on my box running a different distro.
[02:36] <MrPickle> kaiwen, I was referring to ndiswrapper. Im reinstalling that first
[02:36] <qr> BrendanW1lsh: you can change the resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <BrendanW1lsh> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <kaiwen> ok, i need to restart laptop, i'll be on soon MrPickle, i'll notify you once i'm on
[02:36] <qr> kc8pxy: rejected?
[02:37] <BrendanW1lsh> qr: How would I go about changing it in Terminal though? I just installed Ubuntu today. :/
[02:37] <MrPickle> kaiwen, k
[02:37] <kc8pxy> qr: cannot open display :0.0
[02:37] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee: what about this > dmesg | grep agp
[02:37] <kc8pxy> qr:  even if i sudo them.
[02:37] <wols> DozedOnLinux: did you make him check lspci output?
[02:38] <qr> BrendanW1lsh: you need to edit the resolution parts in that file and restart the X server... you probably don't want to do this if you're new to linux though
[02:38] <BrendanW1lsh> startx
[02:38] <qr> kc8pxy: are you connected to the box over ssh by any chance?
[02:38] <BrendanW1lsh> whoops, sorry.
[02:38] <wols> BrendanW1lsh: xrandr
[02:38] <kane> hi
[02:38] <wols> qr: learn about xrandr
[02:38] <qr> wols: indeed, I just man'd it actually
[02:39] <Brucee> says : detect agp bridge agpe aperture 128 mg @0xd00000 linux agpgart interface v0.102
[02:39] <DozedOnLinux> Brucee: lastly try this in terminal > lspci -v
[02:39] <kc8pxy> qr:  nope..  sitting at it.  I'm not at the box in question, but I'm starting up my virtualbox, with the same config.
[02:39] <wols> DozedOnLinux: lspci -nn  not -v
[02:39] <kane> heloo which fwcutter i use and which frimware i should use for broadcom 4311
[02:39] <Wavesonics> how do i detach a screen?
[02:39] <godzirra_> screen -d
[02:39] <kane> on ubuntu
[02:39] <joejoecircusboy> wols: What were you saying about apples and oranges?
[02:39] <Z_Man> bububububu?
[02:39] <Z_Man> 21:39 < godzirra_> screen -d
[02:39] <Z_Man> 21:39 < kane> on ubuntu
[02:39] <Wavesonics> godzirra: But it has a process running
[02:39] <Z_Man> crap
[02:39] <kane> yeah
[02:39] <Z_Man> sorry
[02:39] <FloodBot1> Z_Man: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <wols> kc8pxy: vbox is totally different from real hardware. you sitting at the vbox is useless
[02:40] <DozedOnLinux> wols IM ?
[02:40] <billybigrigger> qr,yeah fvwm, is really light :P haha same idea as fluxbox though...dunno can only open terminal though, i left click on desktop and it shows debian menu, but theres nothing in the menu, so i have to open a term and manually open programs, oh well
[02:40] <Z_Man> i hate irssi
[02:40] <wols> joejoecircusboy: that you shouldn't compare them like you did
[02:40] <billybigrigger> qr, do you use a torrent client in fvwm??? whats a really light CL torrent client?
[02:40] <joejoecircusboy> wols: what do you mean?
[02:40] <qr> billybigrigger: yes, I use a terminal for everything so fvwm is quite nice
[02:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> billybigrigger: rtorrent
[02:40] <wols> joejoecircusboy: I can't say or !language gets me
[02:40] <qr> billybigrigger: look at rtorrent, it's a very good command line torrent client
[02:41] <kane> which frimware and fwcutter should i use
[02:41] <julien> hi
[02:41] <joejoecircusboy> wols: hmm?  No idea what you're talking about then :)
[02:41] <kane> for my broadcom 4311 on ubuntu
[02:41] <DozedOnLinux> wols: ok i see -nn vendor and device code
[02:41] <wols> joejoecircusboy: I know you don't. that's apparently normal for you
[02:41] <DozedOnLinux> wols: add that to my notes
[02:41] <billybigrigger> Daisuke_Ido, thanks
[02:41] <billybigrigger> qr, thanks
[02:41] <joejoecircusboy> wols: why the hostility?
[02:41] <wols> joejoecircusboy: you wanted to know
[02:42] <wols> DozedOnLinux: it is a lot less cluttered than -v and has all the needed info
[02:42] <kane> which frimware and fwcutter should i use for broadcom 4311
[02:42] <billybigrigger> qr kinda gay to have a bunch of terminals open for every program i need to run though :P
[02:42] <kaiwen> MrPickle, I'm back, have you installed it yet?
[02:42] <DozedOnLinux> wols: yes i agree now that i look at it
[02:42] <kane> which frimware and fwcutter should i use for broadcom 4311
[02:42] <wols> DozedOnLinux: before you futilely continue to ask him stuff make him pastebin the lspci results
[02:42] <joejoecircusboy> wols: I wanted to know why you disagree with comparing libpcap with the network... they ARE related
[02:42] <kaiwen> kane the windows driver one
[02:42] <julien> yah i love ubuntu :D
[02:42] <kane> which frimware and fwcutter should i use for broadcom 4311
[02:42]  * julien cheers
[02:42] <qr> billybigrigger: I usually do 'programname & exit' which opens the program and closes the terminal in one command
[02:42] <billybigrigger> qr, might aswell use bitchx with rtorrent :P hehe
[02:43] <wols> joejoecircusboy: netfilter happens before libpcacp for starters. if netfilter blocks, tcpdump doesn't see a thing
[02:43] <qr> billybigrigger: for graphical programs only (obviously)
[02:43] <billybigrigger> qr, your just full of cli knowlodge eh? hehe
[02:43] <kc8pxy> wols:  ok, what would cause that on a real box?
[02:43] <MrPickle> kaiwen, yes- ndiswrapper is freshly reinstalled, though not fully added to the modprobe and the driver bcmwl5 is working preoperly within the parameters of ndiswrapper
[02:43] <kaiwen> joejoecircus I did a tcpdump on PC it shows noething
[02:43] <wols> kc8pxy: what would cause what?
[02:43] <kaiwen> MrPickle ok do a depmod -a
[02:43] <qr> billybigrigger: I try to be
[02:43] <kane> which frimware and fwcutter should i use for broadcom 4311
[02:44] <joejoecircusboy> wols: that's not correct, libpcap operates right above the network driver, before the stack or netfilters operates on the packet
[02:44] <kane> the b43 firmware
[02:44] <kaiwen> kane, Use the windows driver one, I'm not going to say it again
[02:44] <wols> kc8pxy: I asked you about a iptables command I gave you. were you able to run it by now?
[02:44] <mbrigdan> will VirtualBox-ose see my USB mouse? Or will it not be able to see any USB devices at all?
[02:44] <kane> but which one is that
[02:44] <DozedOnLinux> wols: tagged priority *
[02:44] <kaiwen> kane is it a hp notebook?
[02:44] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: But the ping works?!
[02:44] <wols> mbrigdan: it will but not go via usb directly
[02:44] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy nope.
[02:44] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy tcpdump shows no suitable device found
[02:44] <MrPickle> kaiwen, ok so just 'sudo depmod -a ndiswrapper', right?
[02:44] <billybigrigger> qr, this fvwm isn't any more repsonive than gnome though i am noticing
[02:44] <kaiwen> no
[02:45] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: I thought you said pinging the PC from the laptop worked?
[02:45] <kaiwen> just depmod -a
[02:45] <kaiwen> yes
[02:45] <mbrigdan> wols: That works for me, I'm mainly just going to use it where wine isn't enough to play my games. If it works fast enough
[02:45] <kaiwen> that.
[02:45] <kaiwen> but not from pc to laptop
[02:45] <FloodBot1> kaiwen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <MrPickle> kaiwen, k
[02:45] <kaiwen> MrPickle ok do this modprob ndiswrapper
[02:45] <kaiwen> MrPickle ok do this modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:45] <qr> billybigrigger: oh no? maybe you just don't have a good connection for vnc. Are you on wireless? Wireless tends to have high latency, which can make vnc look choppy.
[02:45] <MrPickle> and then dmesg to see if it worked?
[02:46] <billybigrigger> ya wireless at the hotel
[02:46] <kaiwen> MrPickle have you done it?
[02:46] <billybigrigger> i have an aircard (which i left at home) which i usally use but..
[02:46] <MrPickle> yes
[02:46] <joejoecircusboy> (09:44:45 PM) kaiwen: joejoecircusboy tcpdump shows no suitable device found << so you have no interface configured on the PC?
[02:46] <lisa_> has anyone figured out how to create an encrypted Ubuntu partition using truecrypt?
[02:46] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy i have eth0 which is the ethernet port
[02:46] <kc8pxy> wols:  where did you ask me? i didn't see it. i was talking about X rejecting my CLI apps opening firefox.
[02:47] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy but it doesn't show in tcpdump
[02:47] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: if you run 'ethtool eth0' on the PC, what does it output? (PM or pastebin)
[02:47] <kaiwen> MrPickle actually try this :p modprobe -i ndiswrapper
[02:47] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy that works
[02:48] <lisa_> has anyone figured out how to create an encrypted Ubuntu partition using truecrypt?
[02:48] <joejoecircusboy> (09:47:57 PM) kaiwen: joejoecircusboy that works << Ya, but what does it output?
[02:48] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy actually tcpdump works, it needed sudo
[02:48] <joejoecircusboy> ah
[02:48] <kaiwen> lol
[02:48] <billybigrigger> qr, so do i have to wget a torrent file and open it with rtorrent or how does rtorrent work
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> i made a launcher with gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=server1 -e "ssh -X server1" --tab-with-profile=default, it works fine but after it's open the default tab is focus and i want server1 the focus
[02:49] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: so do you see the ping/response from the PC side?
[02:49] <kaiwen> MrPicklem, your wireless should turn on now
[02:49] <MrPickle> kaiwen, doesnt look like its going through
[02:49] <kaiwen> MrPickle what does it say
[02:49] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy nope
[02:49] <DozedOnLinux> kaiwen:  i have to sudo to use wireshark as well
[02:49] <kc8pxy> qr: any other ideas?
[02:49] <MrPickle> Kaiwen, it says nothing, and when I check dmesg its no showing up near the bottom like it was before
[02:49] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: But the ping is successful from the laptop?
[02:50] <kaiwen> joejoecircusboy yep
[02:50] <qr> billybigrigger: read the man page, you'll end up doing that a lot with rtorrent until you're used to it. It is unfourtunately not an intuative program.
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> i wonder if i just change --window to --tab
[02:50] <joejoecircusboy> kaiwen: try 'tcpdump -n'
[02:50] <qr> kc8pxy: sorry, I'm all out.
[02:50] <kaiwen> MrPickle are you on a laptop?