[00:00] <fta> no
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> ok
[00:01] <fta> extract the dongle, and replug it
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> i go test that now
[00:01] <FreeAtMind> i back soon
[00:02] <FreeAtMind> tanks for the tips
[00:02] <FreeAtMind> cya
[00:03] <fta> 11904 firefox-3.1                     1836   338   775   676    47 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 23216 firefox-3.2                      308    25    94   162    27 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 33342 firefox-3.5                       74     2     0    72     0 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> 37312 firefox-3.6                       41     6     0    35     0 (Unknown)
[00:03] <fta> so i guess my ppa has a lot more users than -daily
[00:04] <fta> but that's still nice for -daily though, 74, probably a lot more as we have no idea who is using popcon
[00:05] <fta> asac, ^^
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> back
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> fta is working
[00:10] <fta> great
[00:10] <fta> excellent
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> they connect smootly
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> i activate the option to connet on startup
[00:10] <FreeAtMind> an they connect ok
[00:11] <FreeAtMind> even afther a reboot
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> later on i back to give you feedback
[00:12] <fta> ok
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> in another day
[00:12] <FreeAtMind> cya a thanks
[00:12] <fta> cu
[00:21] <asac> so it works at lesat
[00:21] <asac> fta: can you drop a comment that the new rules works for you?
[00:22] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/346835/comments/11
[00:22] <asac> thats the rules i posted
[00:37] <fta> asac, it works only with n-m from the ppa, not with n-m from jaunty
[00:49] <fta> oops http://paste.ubuntu.com/138633/
[00:50] <fta> well, i'll have a closer look tomorrow
[00:50] <fta> do we need a fresher nspr?
[00:55] <fta> asac, http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/956071116564
[01:14] <asac> fta: yes. the ppa thing has huawei fixes
[01:14] <asac> anyway. off. tomorrow i will u pload new NM
[01:16] <fta> i meant, the prober in jaunty doesn't support --vid, while in the ppa, it does, so you conf + jaunty will not work, it's visible if you debug udev
[01:16] <fta> youR
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: IMPORT 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1' /lib/udev/rules.d/77-nm-probe-modem-capabilities.rules:11
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: 'nm-modem-probe --vid 0x12d1 --pid 0x1003 --usb-interface 01 --driver option --delay 3000 --export /dev/.tmp-char-188:1'
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' (stderr) '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe: unrecognized option '--vid''
 Mar 26 22:20:26 voyager udevd-event[27664]: '/lib/udev/nm-modem-probe' returned with status 1
[02:38] <[reed]> asac / fta: getting 3.0.8 ready for tomorrow?
[07:55] <alphageek> ?
[07:56] <alphageek> there is a add-on named footiefox which doesn't work with firefox in ubuntu but when i tried to use it with windows it works.
[09:24] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[09:39] <asac> [reed]: tomorrow?
[09:39] <asac> so today?
[09:39] <[reed]> asac: today
[09:39] <[reed]> yes
[09:39] <[reed]> 4pm PDT
[09:39] <asac> pfff
[09:39] <[reed]> maybe earlier
[09:39] <asac> you are really odd. we have a no-security update on friday policy
[09:39] <asac> i thought you even had that too
[09:40] <[reed]> we have a no release policy on Friday in general
[09:40] <[reed]> but for security releases, anything goes
[09:40] <[reed]> our objective is to get the fix to our users ASAP
[09:40] <asac> yes. and then you leave them with a regression over weekend
[09:40] <[reed]> holding off because it's Friday is silly
[09:41] <[reed]> if they're using Firefox, they will get updated
[09:41] <[reed]> over the weekend
[09:41] <BUGabundo> fta: did the daily gwibber broke?
[09:41] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/138835/
[09:42] <asac> [reed]: last i heard was that you released on monday ... personally i dont think its really wise to do stuff in a hurry. but well
[09:42] <asac> i will be ready then
[09:43] <[reed]> you'll be late ;)
[09:43] <[reed]> but ok
[09:43] <BUGabundo> fta https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/349462
[09:43] <asac> [reed]: why would i be late ;)?
[09:43] <asac> i will now bump up this stuff
[09:44] <fta> BUGabundo, donno.. yet
[09:44] <fta>   Installed: 1.0.1~bzr274-0ubuntu1~daily1
[09:44] <fta>   Candidate: 1.0.1~bzr276-0ubuntu1~daily1
[09:44] <[reed]> asac: you said you're going to release on Monday still?
[09:44] <[reed]> with us releasing today
[09:44] <BUGabundo> 276 here
[09:44] <asac> [reed]: no. i said that mozilla wanted to release on monday a day a ago ;)
[09:45] <fta> looks like a problem in python-gobject more than in gwibber.
[09:45] <[reed]> asac: yeah, that changed late today
[09:45] <[reed]> release team met and decided to push it up
[09:46] <asac> yeah. i can see that ;)
[09:46] <asac> nevermind
[09:46] <asac> thanks for the info ;)
[09:47] <[reed]> :)
[09:47] <BUGabundo> bbl
[09:47] <BUGabundo> going out getting supplies
[10:06] <[reed]> asac: urgency=low  for a security update?
[10:06] <[reed]> I guess I don't understand how you all decide that
[10:07] <asac> [reed]: its not used ;)
[10:07] <asac> [reed]: its about something completely different - which is not used in ubuntu
[10:07] <[reed]> ah, k
[10:07] <[reed]> ok
[10:07] <asac> in debian you upload stuff with urgency=low -> means 10 days in unstable
[10:07] <asac> with medium -> 5 days (without RC bug) in unstable
[10:07] <asac> high -> 2 days (without RC bug)
[10:07] <[reed]> ah
[10:07] <[reed]> interesting
[10:07] <asac> critical -> 1 day without RC bu
[10:07] <asac> so its just for the "unstable/sid" uploads in debian
[10:08] <[reed]> k
[10:08] <asac> we usually set urgency to critical in debian for security updates even if its for stable
[10:08] <asac> but in ubuntu we just dont use it :)
[10:08] <asac> (well at least i think)
[10:08] <asac> its definitly technically irrelevant
[10:09] <[reed]> did you mean USN-745-1
[10:09] <[reed]> instead of USB ?
[10:13] <asac> sigh
[10:15] <asac> but good catch ;)
[10:24]  * asac uploaded NM
[10:25] <asac> to ubuntu/jaunty
[10:26] <asac> hmm ... looks really unlikely we can come up with builds today
[10:26] <asac> the builders are completely busted
[10:26] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/
[10:26] <asac> ia64      241 builds waiting in queue
[10:26] <asac> amd64      34 builds waiting in queue
[10:26] <asac> lets hope
[10:27] <[reed]> shouldn't you be able to prioritize?
[10:32] <asac> yeah
[10:32] <asac> we will do that
[11:14] <asac> BUGabundo: heh. you were the first to report the python bustage ;)?
[11:14] <BUGabundo> yep
[11:14] <BUGabundo> im always there
[11:14] <BUGabundo> eheh
[11:14] <BUGabundo> just 2nd bug of the day
[11:14] <BUGabundo> and I had to leave office
[11:14] <BUGabundo> LOL
[11:14] <BUGabundo> how nice for all those new beta users!! EHEHEEH
[11:33] <asac> BUGabundo: tell them to wait a bit with filing bugs ;)
[11:34] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[11:34] <BUGabundo> I wish I could
[11:34] <BUGabundo> we will see 403 bugs too
[11:34] <asac> 403?
[11:34] <asac> HTTP status?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> files have been striped of read permittions
[12:19] <BUGabundo> asac: fta that guy from yesterday with 3g dongle e220 says it fixed for him
[12:19] <asac> yes
[12:20] <asac> hmm
[12:20] <BUGabundo> bug found
[12:20] <BUGabundo> he reports he is now getting the ISP on the wizard
[12:23] <asac> so whats the bug then?
[12:23] <BUGabundo> he went to lunch
[12:23] <BUGabundo> says will report latter
[12:24] <BUGabundo> but seems that the wizard will not provides phone companies as it used to
[12:24]  * asac lunch
[13:22] <gnomefreak> mozilla 485217
[13:42] <thunderstruck> oh fuck this
[14:18] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: language please!!!!
[14:19] <asac> yeah. otherwise we will raise a two minute ban ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> :)
[14:19] <asac> voluntarily ;)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> i think i got hg to work :)
[14:19] <gnomefreak> so happy but i want it to build a tarball not a binary
[14:20] <asac> gnomefreak: what are you dpoig?
[14:20] <asac> doesnt moz-devscripts work?
[14:20] <asac> usually vcs systems have a "export" operation or something to export tarballs
[14:20] <gnomefreak> failing the build. no it wont work ive tried hacking that already
[14:20] <asac> nowadays
[14:20] <asac> but i am not sure you really want that
[14:20] <asac> gnomefreak: which package?
[14:21] <gnomefreak> sunbird 1.x
[14:21] <gnomefreak> make failed i forgot a build option
[14:21] <asac> gnomefreak: where is sunbird 1 in hg? url?
[14:22] <gnomefreak> asac: its in comcental give me a minute
[14:22] <gnomefreak> asac: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/  is that what you are looking for?
[14:23] <gnomefreak> reading on mxr atm
[14:24] <asac> gnomefreak: seems you need the same tarball that tbird uses ;)
[14:24] <asac> thats not a standalone tree there
[14:24] <asac> yeah its the same tarball ;)
[14:25] <gnomefreak> asac: i know comm-central IMHO is worthless they should have kept it on ftp....
[14:25] <gnomefreak> asac: rename everything in tarball?
[14:25] <asac> gnomefreak: heh
[14:25] <asac> you cannot compare apples with cars ;)
[14:25] <asac> ftp is something different
[14:25] <asac> releases get pused to ftp
[14:25] <asac> development happens in tree ;)
[14:25] <asac> gnomefreak: why rename everything in tarball? i dont understand that
[14:26] <asac> gnomefreak: you probably just need to rename the tarball itself
[14:26] <gnomefreak> oh
[14:26] <asac> nothing inside i would think
[14:26] <asac> gnomefreak: just copy the moz client files from thunderbird 3.0 branch
[14:26] <asac> and rename the project to sunbird or something
[14:26] <asac> should be straight forward
[14:26] <gnomefreak> ok that sounds almost too easy
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: tarball wise its eas
[14:27] <asac> gnomefreak: have you talked to sunbird folks
[14:27] <gnomefreak> ok updates than that. i might look at dist_clean patch today maybe tomorrow
[14:27] <asac> or why do you think that the comm-central tree actually works?
[14:27] <gnomefreak> asac: they dont relelase nightly tarballs
[14:28] <gnomefreak> asac: thats where they sent me to build it
[14:28] <gnomefreak> i know not very helpful
[14:30] <asac> everything queues up behind the firefox/xulrunner builds ;)
[14:35] <gnomefreak> its gonna be a while ill be back soon
[14:42] <BUGabundo> asac: please user !CHANNEL on identica
[14:42] <asac> BUGabundo: hmm
[14:42] <asac> BUGabundo: feel free to redent ;)
[14:42] <asac> next time
[14:42] <BUGabundo> to broadcast to a #group
[14:42] <BUGabundo> you must be part of the group to send to it
[14:43] <BUGabundo> I always redent your dents! lol
[14:56] <BUGabundo> asac: you are already getting helpers to improve startpage
[14:56] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:08] <asac> BUGabundo: yes i know. i am part of !ubuntu ;)
[15:09] <asac> thanks
[15:10] <gnomefreak> asac: shouldnt the start page have ubuntu version on it other than the page name?
[15:10] <gnomefreak> 9.04 is only in URL bar
[15:19] <asac> gnomefreak: its not my decision ;)
[15:19] <asac> i only forwarded the news i got through other channels
[15:19] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:23] <asac> gnomefreak: but if you give me comments i will forward them back for sure ;)
[15:24] <gnomefreak> thats kind of simple. should be known what you are running :)
[15:24] <gnomefreak> this is taking too long :(
[15:29] <BUGabundo> do you guys think I should apply to Ubuntu Member? could I get your support?
[15:30] <gnomefreak> wouldnt do that in +1
[15:30] <BUGabundo> yeah
[15:30] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: make a wiki and edit it with stuff you do/did
[15:31] <BUGabundo> but there is were I'm more active
[15:31] <gnomefreak> i have to update mine sooner or later
[15:31] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: its offtopic for there
[15:32] <gnomefreak> ok lunch while this fails to build :)
[15:33] <BUGabundo> eheh
[15:33] <gnomefreak> asac: im gonna have to change everything in /debian example debian/control and im sure renaming everything from thunderbird to sunbird
[15:33] <gnomefreak> i will work on that after lunch
[15:34] <gnomefreak> oh no i dont
[15:34] <gnomefreak> forgot the branch is already for sunbird :)
[15:35] <gnomefreak> btw Python is not fixed
[15:35] <gnomefreak> nevermind that for a min i think i know the problem
[15:36] <asac> gnomefreak: hmm. i meant you should start with our sunbird branch
[15:36] <asac> and add the mozclient files there
[15:36] <asac> do we have a branch for sunbird 1.x?
[15:36] <gnomefreak> not yet
[15:36] <gnomefreak> asac: once i get it working ill push to one
[15:38] <gnomefreak> it is python i think
[16:24] <gnomefreak> asac: can you look at bug 117132 i have a weird feeling about that. did firefox introduce something new about themes in 3.0 reason we cant use firefox-themes package right?
[16:56] <BUGabundo> asac: why do you guys still support mozilla packages for dapper ???
[16:57] <asac> BUGabundo: because we support dapper?
[16:57] <asac> dapper is still supported for a few month for desktop
[16:57] <asac> and another 2 and a half years for servers
[16:58] <asac> i dream every day about those going away
[16:58] <asac> ;)
[16:58] <asac> gutsy will be EOL before dapper fwif ;)
[16:58] <asac> fwiw
[17:00] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:00] <BUGabundo> I forgot about server
[17:00] <BUGabundo> but desktop ???
[17:00] <BUGabundo> really?
[17:00] <asac> yeah. its 6.06
[17:00] <BUGabundo> didn't it end around 8.04.1 ?
[17:00] <asac> 3 years support for LTS
[17:00] <BUGabundo> bah
[17:00] <asac> no
[17:00] <BUGabundo> ok
[17:00] <BUGabundo> never mind
[17:00] <BUGabundo> I'm tired
[17:01] <asac> no problem
[17:01] <BUGabundo> too much writing on my wiki page to apply to ubuntu member
[17:01] <asac> its really long and for usres that follow head its even longer ;)
[17:02] <BUGabundo> ehehe
[17:02]  * BUGabundo is already waiting for koala toolchains
[17:13] <BUGabundo> \o/ wiki page done! please check, comment and/or write a Testimonial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo
[18:00] <BUGabundo> bbl
[18:00] <BUGabundo> asac: I may put my hands on a few more 3G dongles
[18:00] <BUGabundo> will test and also see if hibernate/suspend/resume works
[18:00] <BUGabundo> bye
[20:04] <fta> back
[20:06] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[20:08] <fta> ok, this time, this is it, i will unsubscribe from that guy, he dents too much
[20:08] <BUGabundo> me ?
[20:08] <fta> no
[20:08] <BUGabundo> ohh
[20:08] <BUGabundo> some one is worse then me?
[20:09] <fta> far worse
[20:09] <BUGabundo> ok
[20:09] <BUGabundo> dinner
[20:09] <BUGabundo> bbl
[20:10] <fta> ~30 dents a day
[20:10] <fta> avg since he subscribed
[20:22] <fta> [reed], mozilla bug 385263 broke my build. http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24419503/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2~a1~hg20090327r26633%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[20:24] <fta> well, maybe not this commit as it seems old
[20:26] <fta> ohoh, pango 0.1.22 -> 0.1.24
[20:35] <newz2000> Hi, just updated firefox and it won't stop telling me that the browser has been updated and needs restarted...
[20:35] <newz2000> bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/270303
[20:35] <newz2000> anything I can do to help add more details to the problem?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> yeah fta I'm not that bad
[20:49] <fta> BUGabundo, seems you're at ~26 avg per day, bad too
[20:49] <BUGabundo> am I?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> really?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> you did the math on it? eheh
[20:49]  * BUGabundo checks identica stats
[20:49] <fta> 7044 since 4 Jul 2008
[20:50] <BUGabundo> yeah I noticed
[20:50] <BUGabundo> doing it just now
[20:50] <blogdudel> 3G Bug huawei e160 fixed it works !!!!
[20:51] <BUGabundo> I read it too
[20:51] <BUGabundo> blogdudel: are you fta spammer ? eheh
[20:52] <fta> no
[20:52] <blogdudel> what ? spammer no what do you  mean ?
[20:52] <BUGabundo> never mind
[20:52] <BUGabundo> ;)
[20:53] <blogdudel> in german "hä was is los " ok
[21:00] <fta> [reed], mozilla Bug 485597
[21:01] <[reed]> fta: k, poke me later? kinda about to start a release, and it's going to get really hectic :(
[21:01] <[reed]> fta: request blocking 1.9.1 and such
[21:02] <fta> [reed], bz reacted to it in #dev..
[21:02] <fta> [reed], not sure he'll take it or what
[21:08] <fta> [reed], is 3.1b3 also impacted by the bug causing all the fuss in the 3.0 branch? I notice we still have b3+build2 in jaunty/universe :(
[21:09] <[reed]> yes
[21:09] <fta> :P
[21:10] <fta> [reed], what about those who took b3 from you? are you rushing to bake a b4 too, or a b3++ or nothing at all?
[21:52] <[reed]> fta: nothing at all
[21:52] <[reed]> afaik
[21:52] <[reed]> Firefox 3.0.8 is out
[21:52] <fta> :(
[22:31] <gnomefreak> asac: you around a scrolling question
[22:51] <asac> [reed]: no advisories pubilshed though ;) ... http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/
[22:51] <[reed]> asac: dveditz is working on it
[22:52] <asac> [reed]: ah. any ETA? (security team is waiting ;))
[22:52] <[reed]> asac: the drafts are on s-g@
[22:52] <[reed]> except for a typo
[22:52] <[reed]> if you need to see them
[22:53] <[reed]> I think dveditz is pushing them now
[22:53] <asac> great
[22:54] <fta> asac, do you alsa have that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/139224/ ?
[22:55] <fta> i have tons of those, basically, all /usr/share/gnome/help/
[23:00] <asac> wait a sec
[23:00] <asac> i have a bunch of dapper/gutsy/intrepid chroot apps confusing my desktop experience :)
[23:02] <asac> fta: in .xsession-errors?
[23:02] <asac> oh during upgrade
[23:02] <asac> well i can try reinstall that package
[23:03] <fta> it's not the 1st time i see that
[23:05] <asac> fta: hmm. no ... i dont have that issue
[23:05] <asac> fta: maybe you have some custom applets?
[23:05] <fta> nope
[23:05] <asac> i mean some other packages that have applets :)
[23:05] <asac> more than just the applets you get installed by default
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> fta asac quick question
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> what is the current status of bug 187313 ?
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> is it fixed on any ppa?
[23:06] <BUGabundo1> I was just asked by a friend on HackLaViva
[23:08] <fta>  ///usr/share/gnome/help/about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml:7: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent"
[23:08] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ l /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <fta> ls: cannot access /usr/share/gnome/help/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent: No such file or directory
[23:08] <fta> fta@ix:~ $ l /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <fta> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23177 2009-03-27 11:51 /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs/gnome-menus-C.ent
[23:08] <BUGabundo1>  !pastebin
[23:08] <BUGabundo1> LOL
[23:09] <fta> so there's something weird with ghelp or ubuntu-docs
[23:09] <[reed]> asac -- http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox30.html
[23:09] <fta> BUGabundo1, no idea, i lost track of this bug a long time ago
[23:12] <BUGabundo1> fta: not even if it is fixed in ppa?
[23:14] <fta> BUGabundo1, i said "no idea" :)
[23:15] <BUGabundo1> ok ok
[23:16] <BUGabundo1> asac: what is the current status of bug 187313 ?
[23:16] <BUGabundo1> is it fixed on any ppa?
[23:20] <fta> asac, ok, found it, in my case, /usr/share/gnome/help/libs is an empty dir, not a link to ../../ubuntu-docs/libs
[23:24] <jdstrand> [reed]: fyi http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/ has MFSA 2009-12 listed twice
[23:24] <jdstrand> [reed]: though the links work right
[23:25] <[reed]> jdstrand: I'll fix that right up
[23:27] <[reed]> committed...  should go live in the next 30 min. or so
[23:27] <jdstrand> cool
[23:37] <[reed]> jdstrand: see the second paragraph on http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2009/mfsa2009-12.html -- we didn't have much as far as who the ubuntu guy was, so we could only put a first name
[23:39] <jdstrand> [reed]: heh, yeah. he didn't put too much in LP :)
[23:39] <jdstrand> I could set his location for him though :P
[23:40] <[reed]> we'll be happy to update the security adv if he wants to give his last name
[23:41]  * jdstrand nods


[04:41] <macogw> why the switch from GParted to Partman? GParted is easier
[09:12] <thom> superm1: custom archive, too *shrug*
[09:13] <superm1> thom, I forgot i even responded to you like 8 hours ago :)
[09:13] <thom> heh
[11:16] <evand> hah
[03:24] <CIA-19> ubiquity: Evan Dandrea <evan@reginald> * revan@reginald-20070710132442-obhui7ng9ybir9pk ubiquity/ (10 files in 8 dirs):
[03:24] <CIA-19> ubiquity: * Automatic update of included source packages: base-installer
[03:24] <CIA-19> ubiquity:  1.80ubuntu2, hw-detect 1.53ubuntu1, silo-installer 1.10ubuntu4.
[03:25] <evand> oh dammit
[04:02] <CIA-19> ubiquity: evand * r2146 ubiquity/ (10 files in 8 dirs): Revert broken update.
[04:35] <padwan> Hi!
[04:36] <padwan> How can I build a kernel for kickstart (netboot)?
[04:37] <padwan> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel -- what's the Ubuntu equivalent?
[04:46] <cjwatson> padwan: the kernel is just the same for Kickstart as for anything else
[04:46] <cjwatson> and you don't need to build it, we ship it
[04:46] <cjwatson> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[04:47] <cjwatson> much of http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel still applies except that the Ubuntu kernel package spits out udebs by itself
[04:52] <padwan> cjwatson: can you show me how to build it myself?
[04:53] <padwan> cjwatson: I took https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/2.6.15-50.61 - well linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15.orig.tar.gz with #  linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-50.61.diff.gz and built my new kernel.
[04:54] <padwan> cjwatson: Now I want to create a initrd.gz for that specific kernel, with the *fixed* RAID controller module, so that I can install Dapper.
[04:57] <cjwatson> padwan: just do step 3 from the Debian URL with the debian-installer source package from dapper, then
[05:08] <Dante123> 	hi all.....I'm planning on installing ubuntu for my neighbour....he has an HP Media Centre m7250 with Windows XP Media version on it......I notice that there is a small fat32 partition (HP may have some diagnostice stuff on there) and the rest of the drive is ntfs.......when I install....I don't want to wipe out his windows........and the choices are guided (use entire drive).......guided (use largerst continous free space) and
[05:08] <Dante123> manual.......I
[05:08] <Dante123> want to give him a 20gb partition........but when I go into Manual.....i get confused.......I tried using gparted and resizing the ntfs partition.... but it wouldn't let me....said there were errors or the drive needs to be checked for errors......any suggestions?
[05:52] <cjwatson> Dante123: you'll probably need to take care of that from the Windows
[05:52] <cjwatson> side
[05:52] <cjwatson> Dante123: make sure it was unmounted cleanly (i.e. the system was shut down properly), and running scandisk or whatever it is there may help
[05:53] <cjwatson> Dante123: there should be more information in /var/log/syslog, which unfortunately isn't really punted through to the UI properly yet
[06:10] <padwan> cjwatson: yay, I'm winning! :)
[06:10] <padwan> cjwatson: /usr/dist/BUILD/installer/debian-installer-20051026ubuntu36.6/build# make all_build
[06:11] <padwan> cjwatson: I've copied all my udebs into localudebs, and
[06:11] <padwan> # dpkg --contents localudebs/nic-modules-2.6.15-50-386-di_2.6.15-50.61_i386.udeb |grep bnx
[06:11] <padwan> -rw-r--r-- root/root<PHONE_NUMBER>-07-10 15:01:09 ./lib/modules/2.6.15-50-386/kernel/drivers/net/bnx2.ko
[06:11] <padwan> but bnx2.ko is not my netboot/initrd.gz ..
[06:15] <cjwatson> check the build log to see if nic-modules really got used, and what version
[06:15] <cjwatson> did you remember to change the configs to 2.6.15-50? they'll use 2.6.15-somethingelse by default
[06:17] <padwan> yup, debian/config/i386.cfg
[06:17] <padwan> I don't see a build.log, or anything .log :-/
[06:17] <padwan> I do see /usr/dist/BUILD/installer/debian-installer-20051026ubuntu36.6/build/tmp/netboot# more udeb.list
[06:18] <padwan> and in there there's no mention of nic*
[06:19] <cjwatson> build log as in the terminal output
[06:19] <padwan> :) let me rebuild
[06:19] <cjwatson> I'm not sure what to say, though - the source lists nic-modules in build/pkg-lists/netboot/i386.cfg
[06:20] <cjwatson> so it should work
[06:33] <padwan> Not being included at all it seems.
[06:44] <cjwatson> I think you're in the best position to debug this; http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/MANIFEST.udebs indicates that our netboot images do include nic-modules
[08:04] <superm1> evand, i was curious, how do translators get access to the files in debian/po?  are they placed somewhere on launchpad that they log into and add their translations?
[08:05] <superm1> (i had someone contact me interested in doing the translations for the mythbuntu frontend in their native language)
[11:05] <leon64> plz help
[11:06] <leon64> plz reply


[00:18] <Laney> oh pants
[00:19] <Laney> should have incremented the u-d-t version
[00:19] <Laney> too tired to do it now
[00:41] <sharms> Laney: I converted it and reassigned
[02:30] <lamalex> Hey guys, how can I pass added configure flags to a package if I want to repackage it? It's using autofoo?
[02:55] <lamalex> ah, figured it out but now it's failing :( guess I need to look at it more
[04:01] <ripps> Is there a guide to help cdbs users to use dh7? I learned to package using cdbs, but now it seems that dh7 is superior to it and I want to learn how.
[04:03] <zooko> Okay folks, there is a new package of Tahoe-LAFS at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs . It fixes all known licensing issues.
[04:06] <lifeless> \o/
[04:06] <mzz> ripps: I thought debhelper was actually used by cdbs? What's telling you using it directly is superior?
[04:06] <lifeless> mzz: dh7 has much of the same 'magic' cdbs does
[04:06] <mzz> man
[04:07] <mzz> is there some document somewhere everyone but me is reading that explains what the best tools are right now
[04:07] <lifeless> no
[04:07] <mzz> bah
[04:07] <ripps> It just seems I should learn how to actually use debhelper, instead of just relying on cdbs to do it for me.
[04:08] <mzz> is that just because such a document would be too controversial, in an editor flamewar kind of way, or because nobody has gotten around to writing one, or what?
[04:08] <lifeless> ripps: by that argument one should learn assembler rather than depending on  gcc :P
[04:08] <lifeless> I'll grant its good knowledge
[04:08] <lifeless> mzz: allof the above, I suspect
[04:08] <ripps> Actually, I have learned some assembly...
[04:08] <mzz> well, one thing about cdbs is that sometimes one of its steps did something bad to my package and it was hard to drop in some debugging before that step
[04:09] <mzz> if my Makefile just ran a whole lot of dh_* helpers I'd have more obvious spots to put extra checks
[04:09] <mzz> cdbs does have hooks, but figuring out what they all are is nontrivial, unless I missed yet another doc
[04:09] <lifeless> man debhelper
[04:10] <mzz> and yeah, debhelper's manpages are pretty good, at least the ones I've read so far
[04:19] <lamalex> Hey guys, can anyone see what's failing here? http://paste2.org/p/436324 <-- output http://paste2.org/p/436325 <-- rules file
[04:26] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Here is my advice:  Get a security update into Jaunty that adds the patch to 0.6.35-0ubuntu1 (presumably 0.6.35-0ubuntu1.1) and then backport that to Hardy/Intrepid.  You should also get a security update for the released versions in Hardy/Intrepid.
[05:09] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, ok thanks! will do then :)
[06:15] <fabrice_sp> Hi. What rights should I have to be able to unsubscribe  u-u-s ?
[06:22] <fabrice_sp> Can some MOTU unsubscribe u-u-s from #417036 ?
[06:22] <fabrice_sp> bug #417036
[07:15] <wrapster> what are the necessary files to build any pkg? coz after i apt-get source <pkg> i see a lot of files are all those necessary? since i've also seen pkgs being build without any of those files....
[07:16] <mzz> please be more specific
[07:16] <mzz> the files not in the debian/ directory are normally from the upstream source tarball, which may contain a few things that aren't actually necessary, depending on how tidy upstream is
[07:17] <fabrice_sp> wrapster, all the ones in debian directory
[07:17] <mzz> everything in debian/ should serve some purpose
[07:17] <wrapster> fabrice_sp: no.. but one moment i'll do a pastie and you can understand better
[07:17] <fabrice_sp> yes: build the package
[07:17] <fabrice_sp> ?
[07:19] <fabrice_sp> !pastebin | wrapster
[07:19] <fabrice_sp> (just in case)
[07:19] <mzz> "pastie" usually means they know that already, in my experience
[07:21] <fabrice_sp> anyway: have to go. bye
[07:25] <wrapster> http://pastie.org/630039
[07:26] <wrapster> have a look at that.. i dwd the source into a dir called binutils under which i had another dir with the pkg name here can i delete all the files except changelog, debian/,copyright?
[07:27] <mzz> I don't understand how your pastebin relates to your question
[07:27] <mzz> your pastebin lists the stuff in the binutils source, not the debianization of that
[07:28] <wrapster> mzz may be iwas not clear..one moment.
[07:29] <wrapster> http://pastie.org/630039
[07:30] <mzz> yes.
[07:30] <wrapster> now .... my question is ,is it enough to just have debian/ changelog and copyright files within the "binutils-2.18.1~cvs20080103" dir and then yet run dpkg-buildpackage to generate the pkg?
[07:30] <mzz> wait, where'd the debian.diff.gz go?
[07:31] <wrapster> oops
[07:31] <wrapster> that was not even downloaded
[07:31] <wrapster> :(
[07:31] <mzz> perhaps there isn't one
[07:31] <mzz> (this may be a "native" package)
[07:31] <mzz> anyway!
[07:31] <mzz> you seem to be root. Stop being that. You shouldn't be root for most, if not all, of the packaging process.
[07:32] <mzz> the stuff in the first "ls" is what I'd expect to get from apt-get source, although normally there's also a .diff.gz
[07:32] <mzz> the stuff in the second "ls" is what's present in the binutils (upstream) source tree, plus a debian/ directory.
[07:32] <wrapster> correct
[07:33] <mzz> what's present in the upstream source tree obviously varies wildly between upstream projects.
[07:33] <mzz> what's present here doesn't strike me as very unusual.
[07:33] <mzz> so I don't understand what you don't understand.
[07:33] <wrapster> hee hee
[07:34] <mzz> (since your original question was something like "coz after i apt-get source <pkg> i see a lot of files are all those necessary? since i've also seen pkgs being build without any of those files....")
[07:35] <wrapster> ok in that case.. what i wanted to point out was i see a lot of files in the upstream dir...
[07:36] <wrapster> are all those necessary? except for the debian?
[07:41] <mzz> depends on how tidy upstream is
[07:41] <mzz> most of them tend to be
[07:42] <mzz> there may be some things in there that aren't installed because they're only interesting to those working on the source package
[07:43] <mzz> there may also be some things that are only necessary to rebuild the build system, which may actually be useful here since it seems to be a snapshot
[07:43] <mzz> there may be stuff that's only used on other platforms
[07:43] <mzz> there may be stuff that isn't built for whatever reason (experimental, dependency not packaged, etc)
[07:43] <mzz> I think most of what you see here is indeed necessary
[07:55] <siretart> do new packages require a FFe, or are they simply not acceptable? Opencore finally ended up in debian, and there are quite some very vocal bug reporters requiring amr support in ffmpeg
[07:56] <siretart> siretart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze%20for%20new%20packages
[08:40] <AnAnt> Hello, does ubuntu care about armel architecture ?
[08:50] <AnAnt> LP 427562
[09:54] <DaveMorris> I've previously generated some packages from a source package called opensg.  I want to rename the generated packages from this source archive, so that they can be installed alongside version 2 of opensg.  Do you simply create a new revision of the source package with the new package names and upload it?
[11:02] <directhex> DaveMorris, yes.
[11:02] <directhex> DaveMorris, but it'll land in the NEW queue due to the new binary packages. and you need to provide valid Replaces: etc lines in debian/control
[11:03] <DaveMorris> directhex: I assume they are of the format Replaces: <package name> then
[11:04] <directhex> with adequate versioning. read the debian nm guide
[11:55] <slytherin> wgrant: ping, is it possible to add a category for java packages at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/ I believe section=java should be sufficient for now for filtering.
[12:06] <wgrant> slytherin: Have a http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/java.html
[12:06] <slytherin> wgrant: Great, thanks.
[12:06] <wgrant> slytherin: np
[12:22] <sistpoty|work> hi folks
[14:54] <directhex> hyperair, thoughts on requesting a FFe for Banshee? since it's staying in universe for now, i see no benefit to sticking with the old stable version when the beta is more reliable
[14:54] <hyperair> directhex: i wouldn't mind.
[14:55] <directhex> hm. who's in motu-release & can give their informal opinion?
[14:58] <randomaction> for those working of FTBFS, here's a list of problematic universe packages sorted by popularity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277970/
[15:04] <directhex> 681 ftbfs bugs? lawks
[15:04] <sistpoty|work> directhex: https://launchpad.net/~motu-release/+members and at this point, I don't have an informal opinion about a banshee FFe yet, to be honest
[15:04] <LucidFox> Hmm
[15:04] <LucidFox> libtheora 1.1 is out
[15:11] <slytherin> LucidFox: Great, But we won't get it in karmic. :-(
[15:16] <slytherin> LucidFox: The 1.1 release is API/ABI compatible, so theoretically there should be no problem in pulling it in karmic. :-)
[15:52] <lamalex> Hey, does anyone know anything about intltool? It's failing with a strange error  Ican't figure out
[15:52] <lamalex> Invalid [] range "F-8" in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/[encoding: UTF-8 <-- HERE ]
[15:52] <lamalex> at /usr/bin/intltool-update line 321, <FILE> line 1.
[15:58] <randomaction> apparently it thinks [encoding: UTF-8] is a regex, try escaping brackets with \
[15:59] <lamalex> the weird part is it works on other files
[15:59] <lamalex> which when I compare the hexdumps, are identical up until the point where files start getting listed
[15:59] <lamalex> I can't figure out why it's trying to read that as a regexp
[16:00] <randomaction> it must be confused by "m/" part which looks like a start of regex match
[16:00] <lamalex> there's no m/ in the file
[16:00] <lamalex> http://paste2.org/p/437195
[16:00] <lamalex> randomaction: ^
[16:01] <randomaction> i see
[16:02] <lamalex> I thought maybe there was a hidden char or something, but hexdump says not the case
[16:38] <AnAnt> Hello, how can I check if a package is in build-dep of any other package in Ubuntu ?
[16:53] <zooko> Morning folks! (UTC-6)
[16:57] <zooko> Good day over there in, I'm guessing, UTC-5, mterry.
[16:57] <zooko> Would you please look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs ?  I believe it is ready to be uploaded into the Karmic Queue.
[16:58] <jmarsden> AnAnt: apt-cache depends PACKAGENAME
[16:58] <jmarsden> AnAnt: Ah, wait, that is for depends not build-depends...
[17:05] <geser> AnAnt: reverse-build-depends (from ubuntu-dev-tools) or using grep-dctrl
[17:15] <Lichi> Hi, can someone help me with creating .deb files?
[17:16] <Lichi> Hello?
[17:17] <AnAnt> thanks
[17:17] <Lichi> I was told to ask here, help would be nice
[17:18] <AnAnt> geser: I need dpkg-src lines in sources.list for that ?
[17:19] <sistpoty|work> AnAnt: yes
[17:20] <sistpoty|work> !packagingguide
[17:20] <geser> yes, as only the Sources.gz files contain this information
[17:20] <sistpoty|work> Lichi: ^^
[17:30] <Lichi> thanks
[17:31] <AnAnt> LP 427562
[17:40] <AnAnt> LP 436733
[17:41] <AnAnt> I attached a patch to LP 436733
[17:42] <AnAnt> should I set it to confirmed ?
[17:44] <fabrice_sp> AnAnt, you should at least subscribe u-u-s :-)
[17:45] <AnAnt> I don't have a Source.gz (and I have a low bandwidth internet), can someone run: "reverse-build-depends tablelist" for me please ?
[17:45] <AnAnt> fabrice_sp: ok
[17:46] <fabrice_sp> AnAnt, I've run it and it doesn't give any package
[17:47] <fabrice_sp> should I download something first?
[17:47] <AnAnt> fabrice_sp: thanks ! I just wanted to make sure
[17:47] <AnAnt> fabrice_sp: can you mention this in LP 427562 please ?
[17:48] <fabrice_sp> ok. I'll paste the result
[17:48] <fabrice_sp> output, I mean
[17:49] <AnAnt> ok
[17:49] <AnAnt> thanks
[17:49] <fabrice_sp> ;-)
[17:49] <AnAnt> so should I set LP 436733 to confirmed, since I attached a debdiff patch to it ?
[17:52] <AnAnt> bddebian: Hello
[17:56] <fabrice_sp> AnAnt, better to confirmed, yes, but it doesn't really matter
[17:56] <fabrice_sp> it matters for sync requests
[17:59] <bddebian> Hi AnAnt, what do you need this time? :)
[17:59] <fabrice_sp> Hey bddebian :-)
[17:59] <fabrice_sp> TheMuso, persia could you add me to the u-u-s team please?
[18:02] <AnAnt> bddebian: remember tablelist that was removed from Debian
[18:04] <AnAnt> bddebian: it was removed because it was already included in tklib, so, I am trying to remove it from Ubuntu too, so I filed those bugs: LP 436733 & LP 427562
[18:06] <fabrice_sp> Can some MOTU unsubscribe u-u-s from Bug #406574 ?
[18:08] <Laney> done and done
[18:08] <Laney> arent you in uus?
[18:09] <wrapster> Guys I have a curious question... When i apt-get <pkg> supposing it says dependency1 is missing install it first.. is there anyway that I can actually hardcode it into <pkg> so that when i apt-get <pkg> it will first check whether the dependency is satisfied if not it will automatically download it and then proceed with the <pkg> installation?
[18:10] <AnAnt> ?!
[18:10] <fabrice_sp> Laney, no: it seems new MOTU are not automatically added to u-u-s (that's why I pinged persian and TheMuso before)
[18:10] <Laney> yeah that's right
[18:10] <AnAnt> wrapster: that's what apt-get does !
[18:10] <wrapster> AnAnt: one moment ...
[18:10] <wrapster> i'll give you a real world eg
[18:12] <AnAnt> brb
[18:25] <wrapster> AnAnt: what i wanted to say was... supposing i want to dpkg-buildpackage binutils.. it complains that tcl8.4 is necessary as some library that binutils checks for is a part of tcl8.4 ... so is there a way I can actually just say build bintuils and when the dpkg-buildpackage is running can it check and install tcl if not present?
[18:29] <fabrice_sp> wrapster: this is what Build-depends is for in debian/control)
[18:31] <wrapster> oh so supposing i put tcl in the control file that should do the trick?
[18:32] <nicklas_> huj
[18:36] <sharms> If anyone gets a chance can anyone review LP 436082 -- I added patch that resolves FTBFS
[18:36] <joaopinto> wrapster, you don't apt-get <pkg>, you apt-get install <pkg>, and that should not tell you that a dependency is missing, if it does, then you are missing a dependency for that app on your repository
[18:36] <joaopinto> so, presumably that dependency is already listed on debian/control
[18:36] <wrapster> joaopinto: yeah your right.. i corrected my mistake.. the error was during the build-package
[18:37] <joaopinto> ah ok
[18:37] <wrapster> i meant when im building the pkg from source if i get an error saying a dependency is missing then if i add that into the control file... will that be sufficient?
[18:41] <fabrice_sp> can some other MOTU have a look at Bug #406574. I don't know how to answer :-/
[18:41] <fabrice_sp> (to a pissed off contributor, I mean)
[19:09] <ubuntu_giant> Grrr...I'm having a problem with updating a package given the following tutorial (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate), but the error output tripped pastebin's spam filter.
[19:10] <ubuntu_giant> Maybe I could paste the last few lines?
[19:15] <ubuntu_giant> Is it okay if I paste the last few lines?
[19:23]  * ubuntu_giant sometimes wonders if anyone is alive in these chat rooms. :(
[19:24] <AnAnt> ubuntu_giant: so do I
[19:24] <geser> depends on the day and the time of the day
[19:25] <geser> don't forget that it's friday evening in europe so some people do other activities instead of IRC
[19:26] <ubuntu_giant> I've been following the tutorial at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate, and I'm having some trouble, but pastebin won't let me paste my error output because it's supposedly spam.  Would it be alright if I paste the last few lines?  Thanks.
[19:26] <geser> based on the actual activity here I guess nobody would object
[19:27] <ubuntu_giant> Cool, I got it...it's not all the output, but enough. http://pastebin.com/d7c9c47a2
[19:28] <geser> did you use dch to edit the changelog?
[19:29] <ubuntu_giant> Yes.
[19:29] <geser> can you pastebin the changelog around line 13-15?
[19:29] <ubuntu_giant> I followed the steps exactly (except for my name and email, of course).
[19:29] <RoAkSoAx> fabrice_sp, congrats on your motuship :)
[19:30] <ubuntu_giant> Sorry, I'm sort of new to this packaging thing.  What would the changelog be?
[19:32] <geser> debian/changelog, and please pastebin around the first 20 lines (as it complains about line 13 and 15)
[19:34] <ubuntu_giant> Sorry about that. :( http://pastebin.com/d50065e93
[19:36] <geser> I assume it's about line 3: each line needs to be indented with at least 2 spaces (besides the header (like line 1 or 7) or the footer (like line 5 or 18)
[19:37] <fabrice_sp> RoAkSoAx, thanks ;-)
[19:38] <sebner> geser: evidently not us *cough*
[19:39] <geser> sebner: I'm gaming now a little and only watch IRC now at then :)
[19:39] <sebner> geser: heh nice, lucky you didn't write "go out or social activities" ^^
[19:40] <fabrice_sp> WTF?
[19:41] <Pici> I reported that guy earlier...
[19:41] <sebner> slangasek: thx for changing it back
[19:41] <fabrice_sp> thanks slangasek
[19:41] <slangasek> sure
[19:41] <ubuntu_giant> geser: Sorry, but indenting the lines seemed to make it worse. :(
[19:41] <slangasek> somebody reported him to the freenode ops?
[19:42] <geser> ubuntu_giant: worse? you only indented line 3, right?
[19:42] <slangasek> (preventative measure; someone please remind me to remove the topic lock later)
[19:43] <ubuntu_giant> Oh, no.  Sorry, overread the line 3 thing.
[19:43] <ubuntu_giant> Read the rest of the post. :)
[19:45] <ubuntu_giant> It says it's a gpg error, so I wouldn't think the changelog would have anything to do with it.
[19:46] <geser> the gpg error you can ignore for now (unless you plan to upload the package somewhere)
[19:47] <geser> it happens when your name in line 5 doesn't match one of your gpg key uid so debuild can't figure out itself which key to use
[19:47] <geser> you can use the -k option to tell which key to use for signing
[19:50] <ubuntu_giant> I redid the changing line 3, but I still get the error.
[19:50] <geser> the same error?
[19:50] <ubuntu_giant> No, a different error, actually.  I'll post it in a sec...
[19:52] <ubuntu_giant> http://pastebin.com/d1e38bd5
[19:53] <geser> I see only the signing error, which you can ignore untill you want to upload it somewhere
[19:54] <tzafrir_laptop> hi, I'm trying to build -modules packages from zaptel-source in a pbuilder
[19:56] <tzafrir_laptop> I made a dummy package that builds them. It basically works on Debian:
[19:56] <ubuntu_giant> Cool...spam filter didn't trip: http://pastebin.com/d701ad710
[19:56] <tzafrir_laptop> http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-voip/tools/builder/zaptel-modules/debian/
[19:58] <tzafrir_laptop> This package is a helper package. It builds, but does not get into the repository
[19:58] <tzafrir_laptop> I'm trying to build it with hardy, and I see two errors when pbuilder tries to get dependencies:
[19:59] <tzafrir_laptop> zaptel-source: Depends: module-assistant (>= 0.8.1) which is a virtual package
[19:59] <tzafrir_laptop> pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: linux-headers-2.6.26-2-all which is a virtual package.
[20:00] <tzafrir_laptop> Now I figure that I'll have to adjust the kernel version, and maybe not even use the -all
[20:00] <tzafrir_laptop> (right now I can live with that, as I build for i386 only)
[20:01] <tzafrir_laptop> But why do I get that message about module-assistant ?
[20:02] <CardinalFang> Hi all.  I'm trying to sort out splitting a package.  I have "foo" that I split into "foo" and "foo-bin".  "foo" must depend on "foo-bin", and it shouldn't be possible to install old "foo" and new "foo-bin" at the same time.  How is this done?  I hear "Breaks" isn't supported yet, is it "foo-bin  Conflicts (<< split_version)"?
[20:03] <CardinalFang> "foo-bin  Conflicts: foo (<< split_version)"?
[20:08] <sistpoty> persia: mind adding me to ubuntu-universe-sponsors? (finally, I find some time to do sponsoring at least here and then again :))
[20:13] <tzafrir_laptop> hmmm.. NM.
[20:19] <ubuntu_giant> Anybody on updating a debian package? http://pastebin.com/d701ad710
[20:31] <sistpoty> ubuntu_giant: looks like you've got an error in debian/changelog (from a small glimpse only)
[20:32]  * sistpoty reboots for new kernel
[20:33] <Laney> haha
[20:33] <Laney> I get a warning if XS-Python-Version is there
[20:33] <Laney> change for pyversions, get another warning
[20:33]  * Laney head in hands
[20:43] <Laney> jbernard_: I just uploaded u-d-t
[20:43] <Laney> thanks for your fix
[20:45] <bdrung> do i need a ffe for theme packages?
[20:48] <sharms> Laney: Can you look at LP 436082
[20:49] <Laney> sharms: in a bit
[20:49] <sharms> thanks
[21:24] <lamalex> Hey guys, does anyone know about intltool? I'm still struggling with this regexp issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/intltool/+bug/436671
[21:35] <ScottK> Laney: Use XS-Python-Version.  It is at least common between both python-support an python-central.
[21:35] <Laney> ScottK: Alright I should revert that in u-d-t
[21:35] <Laney> cdbs shouldn't give that warning
[21:36] <ScottK> Laney: Not a big deal.  Just put it in bzr for next time.
[21:36] <Laney> yeah
[21:36] <ScottK> Laney: Agreed.
[21:38] <Laney> pushed
[21:39] <jbernard_> Laney: awesome, no problmem
[22:28] <Zhenech> hyperair, geany broken with new libvte?
[22:54] <ScottK> I'm pretty well convinced that the design theory behind the most recent LP release was, "Making useful information harder to find."
[22:55] <zooko> Any MOTUs who could look at Tahoe-LAFS? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs
[23:37] <hyperair> Zhenech: is it? wfm
[23:38] <Zhenech> hyperair, on sid it is
[23:38] <hyperair> hmm is that so
[23:38] <Zhenech> 0:03 evgeni@atae ~ % geany
[23:38] <Zhenech> zsh: segmentation fault  geany
[23:38] <hyperair> ouch
[23:38] <Zhenech> gdb yells about libvte
[23:38] <hyperair> hmm
[23:38] <hyperair> i wonder if recompiling would work..
[23:39] <Zhenech> I bet
[23:39] <hyperair> iirc geany uses some dlopen black magic with libvte
[23:43] <Zhenech> building :)
[23:43] <Zhenech> this problem exists with gedit too :)
[23:47] <bobbo> Hello everyone!
[23:49] <Zhenech> hyperair, nope, rebuild does not help
[23:51] <hyperair> Zhenech: figures.
[23:51] <hyperair> Zhenech: file a bug with a gdb trace please
[23:52] <Zhenech> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548350
[23:52] <hyperair> ah
[23:52] <Zhenech> there it is
[23:52] <hyperair> is it in geany?
[23:52] <Zhenech> nah, libvte9
[23:52] <Zhenech> geany just using it and crashing
[23:52] <hyperair> no i meant is the bug set to affect geany?
[23:53] <hyperair> no wait, libvte is the one that broke eh
[23:53] <hyperair> not geany?
[23:53] <hyperair> well then that's fine
[23:53] <hyperair> wait for it to be fixed =p
[23:54] <Zhenech> funnily bug speaks about broken xfce-terminal
[23:54] <Zhenech> but mine still works XD
[23:54] <Zhenech> memo: dont close it the next couple o daus