[12:00] <Pegasos989> orionrobots I haven't tested any yet (installed this today) but if this is the same problem I had once long ago in another install, it is really poor
[12:00] <orionrobots> daziplqa: Dont go crazy with the bots...
[12:01] <Alonea> Hyarion: oh, ok, Well, if you pop open your case, you should be able to find it pretty easily. If its doing it on no matter what OS you put on, then its probably hardware in some way. Other possible things is your RAM is going out. With hardware its hard to tell sometimes.
[12:01] <Pegasos989> orionrobots you think I have some 3d acceleration thingy unenabled or something?
[12:01] <Hyarion> Alonea, no it's just Ubuntu, Windows was fine.
[12:01] <soundray> daziplqa: do you think you can manage this?
[12:01] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Do you know which drivers you are running for the card? You might well be using software 3d.
[12:01] <cables> Can anyone explain how Gnome lets me shutdown without me being root/typing in a sudo password?
[12:02] <daziplqa> sound : done
[12:02] <Alonea> Hyarion: hmmm. *shrugs* I really don't know. But its still a thing to check out though. Does it do it even after reinstalling your OS?
[12:02] <orionrobots> !ati | Pegasos989
[12:02] <ubotu> Pegasos989: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:02] <soundray> daziplqa: I need the URL
[12:02] <daziplqa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11580/
[12:02] <daziplqa> is that ?
[12:02] <soundray> daziplqa: thanks, checking
[12:02] <daziplqa> sound : tyt
[12:03] <orionrobots> Hylarion: Have you checked CPU temperatures?
[12:03] <eegore> is the 8800 NVidia card fully supported yet?
[12:03] <Pegasos989> orionrobots I haven't done anything to drivers yet so whatevever came with the ubuntu... I allready found that page in help but it said "We encourage users to prefer open source drivers" or something which turned me away from that... I should try it?
[12:03] <Hyarion> Alonea, no I haven't tried that but I think that's my next step, thanks for your help
[12:03] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: The open source drivers will use only software 3D renderers - and be very slow.
[12:04] <Alonea> Hyarion: No problem. I try.
[12:04] <crdlb> eegore, I think you need a newer nvidia driver than is included in edgy
[12:04] <daziplqa> sound : no "eth" term found, right ??
[12:04] <eegore> so the 7950 would be the safer bet than
[12:04] <Pegasos989> orionrobots Okay, that's propably it then. Thanks for the help.:)
[12:04] <orionrobots> Pegasos989: Although the proprietary ones are not the most "politically correct" ones, they do give more features.
[12:04] <eegore> crdlb: ^?
[12:04] <daziplqa> O:-)
[12:05] <crdlb> Pegasos989, installing newer nvidia drivers isn't particularly hard if you use the repository at http://albertomilone.com
[12:05] <crdlb> eegore, ^^
[12:05] <crdlb> whoops
[12:05] <orionrobots> crdlb - he is on an ati card.
[12:06] <crdlb> orionrobots, but he's asking about the 8800
[12:06] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a blank desktop, no icons no menu
[12:06] <eegore> than the 7950 would be the best budget solution from my viewpoint
[12:06] <Pegasos989> Wtf... Just remembered that my ATI card broke when I was using windows and I now have geforce 4200 in this thing as a "temporary solution". Does it change something (ie. do I still need to just get drivers or is the card so old that it is the problem)
[12:06] <orionrobots> !nvidia | Pegasos989
[12:06] <ubotu> Pegasos989: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:07] <Nullbyte> No card is too old :)
[12:07] <ultm8> bye folks
[12:07] <ultm8> :)
[12:07] <Nullbyte> The problem is never cards
[12:07] <soundray> daziplqa: can you try 'sudo modprobe 8139too', then 'ifconfig' again
[12:07] <Nullbyte> See you ultm8 :)
[12:07] <orionrobots> True
[12:07] <Nullbyte> never = newer*
[12:07] <orionrobots> yup.
[12:07] <daziplqa> ok
[12:07] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a blank desktop, no icons no menu
[12:07] <daziplqa> !pastebin
[12:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:08] <soundray> daziplqa: no need to paste again
[12:08] <DM|> !pastebin
[12:08] <DM|> !pastebin
[12:08] <daziplqa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11581/
[12:08] <soundray> daziplqa: just tell me whether the output from ifconfig has changed
[12:08] <trester> hi
[12:08] <daziplqa> sound : not found
[12:08] <daziplqa> sound : no, didn't change
[12:08] <yuesefa> how can i watch flv on ubnnt?
[12:08] <yuesefa> ubuntu
[12:09] <orionrobots> For those wanting to get quick info from the bot - try !help > me
[12:09] <soundray> daziplqa: okay. What's your kernel version? Check with 'uname -r'
[12:09] <daziplqa> sound : you do not ask me about my NIC modeL ?
[12:09] <crdlb> yuesefa, mplayer can play them
[12:09] <crdlb> with the proper codecs
[12:09] <yuesefa> i installed. but no image
[12:09] <daziplqa> sound : 2.6.15-23-386
[12:09] <orionrobots> rj686: What else do you expect to see? Do you have a top menu? And a bottom task bar?
[12:09] <trester> hi how would i install dri module?
[12:10] <soundray> daziplqa: I think to make this work, you will have to upgrade to edgy (Ubuntu 6.10)
[12:10] <daziplqa> sound : can you speak in arabic
[12:10] <trester> it seems mine isn't installed
[12:10] <daziplqa> what ???!!!!
[12:10] <soundray> daziplqa: I think to make this work, you will have to upgrade to edgy (Ubuntu 6.10)
[12:10] <daziplqa> sound : noway ??
[12:10] <orionrobots> daziplqa: Some things get fixed in newer versions. It is not a bad suggestion.
[12:11] <trester> i dont have dri in my lsmod can someone tell me what package i need?
[12:11] <daziplqa> sound : so tell me a nic that works with 6.06
[12:11] <daziplqa> with a reasonable price
[12:11] <trester> and when i try modprobe dri it doesn't work
[12:11] <ant> trester : it may not answer your question but you can search with apt-cache search dri
[12:11] <rj686> orionrobots: i mean no standard gdm menu just a blank screen
[12:11] <crdlb> daziplqa, anything with an intel or ralink chipset
[12:12] <daziplqa> such what ?
[12:12] <rj686> orionrobot: randomly i booted up my computer and i just got the loading screen, it loads nautilus and then i just get a brown screen
[12:12] <soundray> daziplqa: I would expect any NIC to work, it's just bad luck that yours doesn't.
[12:12] <orionrobots> Hmm - sorry to run out.. gotta go.
[12:12] <daziplqa> it is RLT8139D
[12:13] <rj686> when i boot my computer nautilus loads, but i'm staring at a brown desktop, no icons no gdm  menu
[12:13] <TSWoodV> We're starting to see NICs with firmware that needs to be loaded via the driver.  That'll be a problem for open source.
[12:13] <soundray> daziplqa: if upgrading is a big hassle for you, make sure your kernel is up to date. I think there is a later kernel than -23 for dapper.
[12:13] <daziplqa> sound : have you heard about it be4 ?
[12:13] <ant> daziplqa : i looked earlier and found NO support for that card
[12:13] <trester> ant that returned a lot of lines
[12:13] <adaptr> daziplqa: any 3com or intel NIC works
[12:13] <adaptr> and works well
[12:13] <TSWoodV> daziplqa: RTL- Realtek stuff.  Should work.
[12:13] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, it's a fairly common chipset. I'm surprised that it doesn't work.
[12:13] <trester> ant i'm just trying to get fglrx working and i keep getting mesa under fglxinfo and no dri under glxinfo
[12:14] <ant> trester: have you installed the ati drivers?
[12:14] <soundray> daziplqa: sometimes it helps to apply some black magic as well, like changing PCI slots.
[12:14] <TSWoodV> daziplqa: Probably uses the 8139too drive.
[12:14] <whtet> guys I have set up a DNS server ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093 ) when I do 'dig dns.mydomain.com' it works but when I 'ping dns.mydomain.com' it doesn't work, how can i fix it?
[12:14] <TSWoodV> s/drive/driver/
[12:14] <soundray> TSWoodV: we tried loading that.
[12:14] <trester> oh wow ant it just worked with a reboot
[12:14] <adaptr> whtet: DNS != ICMP ECHO
[12:14] <TSWoodV> Sorry, soundray.
[12:14] <trester> thanks thoguh!
[12:15] <daziplqa> sound : r u sure that it is work ??
[12:15] <ant> trester : still knowledge gained no?
[12:15] <soundray> daziplqa: could you look at 'dmesg' again, just the last few lines: did 8139too leave any message there?
[12:15] <ep2011> does anyone know of some screenshots or videos I can see of the installation menus when you already have free space?
[12:16] <soundray> daziplqa: no, like I say, that would be magic.
[12:16] <ant> daziplqa : use "tail" to look at the end of a file.
[12:16] <trester> ant yep
[12:16] <daziplqa> sound :
[12:16] <ant> :)
[12:16] <daziplqa> ls
[12:16] <daziplqa> thanx to ALLAH, then you; i found anew line :
[12:17] <daziplqa> sound : could i paste it here , it is just one line ?
[12:17] <trester> ant well it looks like i'm not exactly done
[12:17] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, I don't think anyone will object.
[12:17] <trester> ant it seems i'm only getting 16 bit
[12:17] <daziplqa> 4296694.449000]  8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
[12:17] <daziplqa> it is it.
[12:17] <daziplqa> sound : what about ??
[12:18] <fatlip> The following packages have been kept back: kdelibs5 kdelibs5-dev
[12:18] <soundray> daziplqa: yes, it means that it's loaded, but if ifconfig doesn't change, it doesn't help.
[12:18] <fatlip> i keep getting that same error
[12:18] <whtet> adaptr , I have the working dns server (i didn't set it up) and if I ping the same host with a the hostname known for the working dns server, it works
[12:18] <Enverex> fatlip, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:18] <fatlip> i did that
[12:18] <fatlip> it didnt fix it
[12:18] <fatlip> says its holding back
[12:18] <daziplqa> sound : oops
[12:19] <soundray> What's the latest kernel in dapper, please?
[12:19] <daziplqa> sound : it did n't change, what about rebooting ??
[12:19] <TSWoodV> fatlip: Sounds as if there's some dependency that can't be solved by upgrading those packages.
[12:19] <ant> daziplqa : buy a new card for $20
[12:19] <daziplqa> and : what will be its model ?
[12:19] <daziplqa> ant * :
[12:20] <ant> daziplqa : ask someone who has one that worked out of the box.
[12:20] <ant> daziplqa : or look at the supported hardware list.
[12:20] <soundray> daziplqa: you can buy any PCI card, and it should work. It's very rare that one doesn't.
[12:20] <bruenig> soundray, doing apt-cache show linux-image-generic | grep Depends will show it but that is assuming you have dapper installed
[12:20] <br1> Hi.  I'm having trouble making ddclient run automatically at startup.  It works when run manually, and it's checked in sysvconfig.  Any hints?
[12:20] <soundray> daziplqa: remember, you can always upgrade to edgy and it will likely work then.
[12:22] <soundray> bruenig: linux-image-generic doesn't exist in dapper...
[12:22] <bruenig> !info linux-image dapper
[12:22] <ubotu> Package linux-image does not exist in dapper
[12:22] <bruenig> wha
[12:22] <Tom_Kun_> anyone know how to get an atmel based usb dongle work in ubuntu? Just plugging it in didn't seem to help much :)
[12:22] <bruenig> It has some meta package I thought
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> !info linux-image-686 dapper
[12:23] <ubotu> linux-image-686: Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV.. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> bruenig: ^^
[12:23] <soundray> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:23] <bruenig> show off
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> :)
[12:23] <soundray> daziplqa: to get the current kernel, run 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[12:23] <cfedde> can I get eth0 to lock to 100baseTx-FD at boot rather than negotiating?
[12:23] <__mikem> whose being a showoff
[12:24] <sabotai> hi
[12:24] <sabotai> need help here please
[12:24] <soundray> cfedde: with ethtool
[12:24] <cfedde> soundray: I can set it but I have to write a boot script.
[12:24] <theherbalizer> cat /proc/cpuinfo/   ....what am i doing wrong?
[12:24] <soundray> cfedde: just call it from /etc/rc.local
[12:25] <evoxy> what's a good nes emulator?
[12:25] <cfedde> soundray: yeah.  I thought I was overlooking something.
[12:25] <sabotai> can anyone help me with my sound issue...i cant hear nothing
[12:25] <soundray> theherbalizer: drop the trailing /
[12:25] <theherbalizer> LOL
[12:25] <theherbalizer> alright
[12:25] <theherbalizer> thanks
[12:25] <ant> i wish gnome-look woud come back up so i could get me leeto gdm theme.
[12:25] <theherbalizer> rofl
[12:25] <soundray> theherbalizer: don't laugh, it was hard to diagnose!
[12:25] <soundray> ;)
[12:25] <theherbalizer> soundray: really?
[12:25] <sabotai> help please
[12:25] <trester> ant which theme
[12:26] <ant> trester : blank sereen
[12:26] <trester> also can someone tell me why i can't switch to a console anymore with ctrl+alt+function key?
[12:26] <ant> lol
[12:26] <ant> trester: did you just upgrade to edgy?
[12:27] <trester> ant no dapper
[12:27] <cfedde> is ethtool prefered to mii-tool?
[12:27] <soundray> sabotai: failed
[12:27] <soundray> cfedde: by me, yes. But I don't think it makes a difference.
[12:27] <trester> ant is that blank sereen on art.gnome.org?
[12:27] <ant> trester : there was a couple people in here yesterday with your same problem, but no fix.
[12:27] <Berad> What is the pack to install the java jdk?
[12:27] <jrib> !java > Berad    (Berad, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:27] <soundray> sabotai: have you had a look at the wiki docs:
[12:27] <ant> trester : i will look, appreciate it.
[12:27] <soundray> !sound | sabotai
[12:27] <ubotu> sabotai: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:28] <Berad> Thanks
[12:28] <sabotai> hello can anyone help me plsss
[12:28] <kleber_> hello folks, does anybody use/know about intel S3000AH mother board ? The chipset is an intel S3000...
[12:28] <sabotai> BoOm!
[12:28] <trester> ant i was actually just asking for myself hehe where were  you going to get it from?
[12:28] <neozen> meep
[12:28] <soundray> sabotai: hey, I'm trying
[12:28] <ant> gnome-look.org
[12:28] <sabotai> ok
[12:29] <sabotai> ive followed the procedures on ubuntu forum but no luck
[12:29] <Enverex> kleber_, What about it?
[12:29] <sabotai> whats my ping
[12:29] <sabotai> !ping
[12:29] <ubotu> pong
[12:29] <kleber_> Enverex: do you know if it works fine (all features) ?
[12:30] <ant> trester : yea art.gnome only has two pages of gdm themes... on gnome-look i was on page 15 and still had a lot to look through
[12:30] <auge02> what you do?
[12:30] <Enverex> kleber_, You need to look up the specific components
[12:30] <kleber_> Enverex: the intel s3000 chipset
[12:30] <ikonia> sabotai: what do you want, as you keep typing ping and boom and other pointless words
[12:30] <sabotai> i want help sorry
[12:30] <ikonia> sabotai: with what
[12:31] <sabotai> i cant hear no sound
[12:31] <ep2011> Should I resize my windows partition for freespace before or during installation of ubuntu dual-boot?
[12:31] <kjm> is there a way to extract the audio stream from Rhythmbox
[12:31] <soundray> sabotai: I'm trying, but you are ignoring me
[12:31] <sabotai> sorry
[12:31] <ikonia> soundray: I'll back away, sorry didn't see you helping
[12:31] <sabotai> too many text
[12:31] <ikonia> soundray: just saw him messing around
[12:31] <soundray> No, ikonia, it's fine
[12:31] <ikonia> sabotai: you add to the "too many" with your pointless words
[12:31] <Enverex> kleber_, Chipsets are made up of things, that alone wont help, as I said..
[12:31] <ant> lol @ ikonia
[12:31] <sabotai> anyway yea ive tried the guide on the forum n didnt work
[12:32] <ikonia> which guide
[12:32] <kleber_> Enverex: yeah, you're right... I will get more info about that mobo
[12:32] <l90bpm> anyone ever set up TightVNC (cross platform to windoze)
[12:32] <sabotai> the guide on multimedia ubutu forum
[12:32] <ikonia> sabotai: show me
[12:32] <sabotai> hold on
[12:32] <kjm> is there a way to extract the audio stream from Rhythmbox
[12:32] <Stormx2> sabotai: What issue are you having?
[12:32] <Stormx2> kjm: And input into where?
[12:32] <sabotai> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:32] <soundray> Good night guys, thanks ikonia, hope you can fix it
[12:32] <crdlb> kjm, use mplayer -dumpstream
[12:32] <sabotai> i cant hear anything
[12:32] <auge02> what you has infom. ov cross over system or vnc?
[12:32] <kjm> Stormx2 - some file
[12:33] <kjm> crdlb - thanks, I'll give that a look
[12:33] <Stormx2> kjm: Ah. I think rhythmbox uses gstreamer... but I'm not sure how to stream into a file..
[12:33] <TheVault> Got a question. If an application needs flash to run, how do I install flash system wide?
[12:33] <ikonia> !flas >thevault
[12:34] <kjm> Stormx2 - thanks for that info - I could probably google the solution knowing gstreamer
[12:34] <Berad> What are some views on KDeveloper?
[12:34] <Berad> for c/c++?
[12:34] <cfedde> hum... /etc/rc.local does not appear to exist on this system.
[12:34] <TheVault> ikonia: Did not return any results
[12:34] <kjm> Berad - it is a nice IDE; I prefer anjuta
[12:34] <ikonia> !flash >thevault
[12:34] <TheVault> ikonia: So thats going to tell me how to install it system wide and not just for firefox?
[12:34] <Berad> What are your preferences with anjuta?
[12:35] <ant> !upstart
[12:35] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <ikonia> TheVault: you need a "flash player" in this case firefox to use the libs
[12:35] <dcordes> I have some data here, compressed and divided into several .r00 .r01 .r02.. archives. how can i extract that? tar says unkown format
[12:35] <byen> installing Grub into MBR (vista preinstalled) would it create issues?  I do not have a vista cd and need assistance
 are you familiar w/ VNC from ubuntu to windoze???
[12:35] <jrib> !rar > dcordes    (dcordes, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:35] <kjm> Berad - I prefer Gnome, Anjuta is GTK app, therefore, I prefer it.  Same features can be found in both that I need
[12:35] <ant> !rar | dcordes
[12:35] <ubotu> dcordes: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:35] <jrib> dcordes: open the first one
[12:35] <TheVault> ikonia: But I need it so a program can run....I got flash installed on Firefox, just need it where applications can use it
[12:35] <cfedde> oops.  My mistake...
[12:35] <Stormx2> byen: it won't. GRUB detects vista afaik.
[12:35] <busfahrer> my old mpegs are being played back in black & white, what could be wrong?
[12:35] <dcordes> jrib: thx mate
[12:36] <ikonia> TheVault: what is the application
[12:36] <sabotai> thevault:u mite wanna install adobe flash
[12:36] <TheVault> sabotai: Yeah, system wide so that if a program needs it, it will run
[12:36] <sabotai> thevault: yea i got macromedia flash but on windows it can open anything flash
[12:36] <Tom_Kun_> hmm.. still need some tips regarding an atmel based wireless usb dongle
[12:36] <byen> Stormx2: I ask because I have seen so many threads in the forums where they complain abt being unable to boot into vista
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: I'm not on Windows or I wouldn't be asking :)
[12:37] <ep2011> Should I resize my windows partition for freespace before or during installation of ubuntu dual-boot?
[12:37] <dcordes> jrib: i have a program installed called unrar. is that what i'm looking for?
[12:37] <auge02> a std. packet on debian is vnc und ubunto based of debian --> on ubunto you can used vnc and tightVNC go whitch std. vnc
[12:37] <kjm> byen - I'd complain about booting *into* vista myself.
[12:37] <Tom_Kun_> seems like the device is not recognized
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: I was not being smart lol
[12:37] <sabotai> thevault: is there a linux version of adobe flash?
[12:37] <lugod> sabotai: yes
[12:37] <jrib> dcordes: yes, you can use that on the command line (unrar x file.rar) or you can just use the Archive Manager after installing unrar properly
[12:37] <byen> kjm: sometimes you need to take some things in stride
[12:37] <TheVault> sabotai: Ahh, brb
[12:38] <l90bpm> I know it it can run in ubuntu because it's in the ubuntu 2007 bible
[12:38] <lugod> sabotai: there is adobe flash for linux, or 'gnash' which is a Free replacement
[12:38] <sabotai> thevault: yea i guess u gotta install that adobe linux or w/e its aclled
[12:38] <l90bpm> just had a question about it is all
[12:38] <gago0021> hello, what are the tools needed if i want to create programs for ubuntu
[12:38] <auge02> unrar -x i'm think
[12:38] <ikonia> sabotai: you should know - you just recommended he install a product that doesn't exist
[12:38] <dcordes> jrib: i will check using the manager
[12:38] <TheVault> sabotai: Yeah, just dawned on me lol
[12:38] <l90bpm> just need to set up remote desktop on the one machine, correct?
[12:38] <byen> so Installing ubuntu and then grub into th mbr should be ok? no more work needed?
[12:38] <jrib> auge02: -x means something else I believe
[12:38] <l90bpm> and not both?
[12:38] <sabotai> thevault: umm i didnt say it exists
[12:38] <kjm> gago0021 - automake for 1, gcc, some development environment, or at least a decent text editor.
[12:38] <TheVault> sabotai: Its worth a shot though :P
[12:38] <jrib> gago0021: depends on how you want to create them
[12:39] <ant> byen : ubuntu installs grub for you
[12:39] <dcordes> jrib: great it's working. thanks again
[12:39] <sabotai> god i cant keep track of these texts
[12:39] <jrib> dcordes: np
[12:39] <neozen-away> gago0021: for a first language I'd recommend python
[12:39] <l90bpm> lol
[12:39] <Megaqwerty> can anyone tell me how to add an anonymous account to my proftpd server?
[12:39] <sabotai> how do i register my username?
[12:39] <TheVault> wait, so there is only a flash plugin for firefox, not system wide?
[12:40] <jrib> gago0021: I would definitely agree with neozen
[12:40] <tjs> I've got edgy on a machine behind my adsl router. When I apt-get install something I get timeouts: 0% [Connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]    #note the IP.   if I ping au.archive.ubuntu.com first it resolves and then apt-get works.. this is really odd
[12:40] <gago0021> i see..
[12:40] <jrib> !register > sabotai    (sabotai, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:40] <sabotai> ok ty
[12:40] <gago0021> kjm, jrib, neozen: thanks
[12:40] <auge02> !register auge02
[12:40] <trester> has anyone had problems with only getting 1024x768 resolution with ati cards
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register auge02 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <gerscht> !register > gerscht
[12:40] <kjm> !register > auge02
[12:40] <jrib> trester: are you trying to get more resolutions available to you?
[12:41] <l90bpm> !TightVNC
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <neozen> gago0021: then you just create your apps.. use the gtk toolkit to do your gui's and they'll obey themes (which we like) they'll work.... (which we really like) and the code will be cleaner and more understandable (which we like most of all)
[12:41] <earthen> I have an ATI X700 running fglrx driver and beryl, everything runs fine but when i try and shutdown ubuntu  or gnome I'm not quite sure crashes anyone have this problem
[12:41] <l90bpm> didn't figure ubotu
[12:41] <l90bpm> lol
[12:41] <livingdaylight> my wireless card died
[12:41] <livingdaylight> Can someone tell me a wireless card that works out of the box with Ubuntu?
[12:41] <auge02> .
[12:42] <LadyNikon> livingdaylight: umm.. hold on
[12:42] <neozen> livingdaylight: intel pro wireless 3945abg
[12:42] <ant> gago0021 : glade is good for making gtk progs
[12:42] <LadyNikon> livingdaylight: i have a dell truemobile card
[12:42] <LadyNikon> it works great
[12:42] <neozen> its what I've got ... and I didn't have to do anything to it
[12:42] <trester> jrib yes exactly
[12:42] <LadyNikon> i have a centrino wireless card too
[12:42] <LadyNikon> the internal ones
[12:42] <jrib> gago0021: the tutorial at docs.python.org and diveintopython.org are great starting points for python
[12:42] <jrib> !fixres > trester    (trester, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:43] <ant> gago0021 : ubuntu comes with a python tutorial as well
[12:43] <neozen> livingdaylight: diveintopython especially... whole book thats just free on the net
[12:43] <l90bpm> TightVNC experience anywhere in this room?
[12:43] <neozen> yeah
[12:43] <neozen> right here
[12:43] <livingdaylight> neozen : sounds like laptop wirelss
[12:43] <\shaman> how to shape traffic in easy way for different users behind a NAT server with ubuntu? I need just something like .. <IP_ADDRESS>=2mbit, <IP_ADDRESS>=unlim etc
[12:43] <lugod> 190bpm: I've used it a little
[12:43] <gago0021> so basically, python is like visual basic for ubuntu? can I safely say that?
[12:43] <neozen> livingdaylight: it is
[12:44] <neozen> livingdaylight: but it really works
[12:44] <l90bpm> question: will I need to set up remote desktop on both machines?
[12:44] <BigMike> Pardon my noobness...I have a great working install...but the boot isnt to my satisfaction. First thing I need to know...does grub mess up a windows embedded partition (i.e. the boot to dvd movie that HP offers)?
[12:44] <livingdaylight> Anyone know a pci wirless card for Desktop? that works out of the box with Ubuntu
[12:44] <ant> gago0021 : no, its a scripting language
[12:44] <jrib> gago0021: no, you should run and hide after saying that
[12:44] <l90bpm> or just the one I want to view?
[12:44] <ant> lol
[12:44] <livingdaylight> neozen : i'm talking atobu a desktop here
[12:44] <livingdaylight> thanks anyways
[12:44] <lugod> 190bpm: only on the remote machine, not on the client
[12:44] <neozen> gago0021: that's death
[12:44] <l90bpm> great
[12:44] <l90bpm> ty
[12:44] <LjL> jrib: can do the former, can't do the latter. especially if seveas sees it you know :)
[12:44] <neozen> gago0021: coding in visual basic that is
[12:44] <ant> gago0021 : glade will allow you to make windows in gnome.
[12:44] <neozen> no ... don
[12:45] <sabotai> test
[12:45] <neozen> 't code for gnome
[12:45] <lugod> 190bpm: and note that 'remote desktop' is also the name of another protocol different from VNC
[12:45] <neozen> code for standard gtk
[12:45] <neozen> lol
[12:45] <gago0021> ah hehehe.. so never micd what I said.. I really want to know how to make programs that will work with ubuntu
[12:45] <ztomiccomputers> Cod1, there ya go
[12:45] <Tom_Kun_> is it even possible to get this usb dongle working with the atmel driver? I'm a bit unsure since the ubuntu site says it should detect it automaticly, while it doesn't when I plug it in
[12:45] <thehumanerror> hm, Sound Juicer is foxed by an "Enhanced CD"
[12:45] <l90bpm> finally, I can kill micropoop on this pc all together and just VNC it from the laptop
[12:45] <neozen> so that people like me who don't want to grab the gnome libs can use your app too
[12:45] <thehumanerror> what should I do?
[12:45] <sabotai> is edgy beta than drapper?
[12:45] <thehumanerror> dapper?
[12:45] <earthen> anyone having problem with ATI driver crashing ubuntu on Exit
[12:46] <livingdaylight> Anyone know about a wirelss card for Desktop that works out of the  box with Ubuntu?
[12:46] <neozen> lol @ human error
[12:46] <neozen> nice name mon
[12:46] <l90bpm> lugod, explain
[12:46] <jrib> sabotai: what do you mean?
[12:46] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : maybe you have a bad usb, try plugging it into another
[12:46] <neozen> I take it you're new?
[12:46] <sabotai> neozen: me?
[12:46] <Tom_Kun_> ant: tried that already :) no change.
[12:46] <neozen> sabotai: : no.... meant thehumanerror
[12:46] <neozen> lol
[12:47] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : that would've been to easy.
[12:47] <lugod> l90bpm: 'remote desktop protocol' is used by miscosoft terminal server; there are linux clients but no linux server for that protocol
[12:47] <trester> hey thanks jrib didn't try it yet but thanks
[12:47] <Cod1> Hey guys.. i was just in the linux channel they told me to come here, im having sound trouble, anyone care to help?
[12:47] <BigMike> Okay lemme ask this then - I want to move grub from my linux drive (drive 2) to my windows drive (drive 1) without reinstalling Ubuntu. Are these some accurate instructions for installing grub only? http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/
[12:47] <Tom_Kun_> ant: true enough :p
[12:47] <sabotai> jrib: im using drapper atm but thingkin of upgrading it to edgy..shud i? or not?
[12:47] <Stormx2> Please can someone tell me if they have a setup where more than one app can write sound?!
[12:47] <Tom_Kun_> considering ubuntu recognizes that i've inserted a device. :)
[12:47] <Stormx2> To the mixer.
[12:47] <neozen> sabotai: I'd hold out for feisty
[12:47] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : there was a guy in here yesterday with usb probs, he had 16 ports and tried forever with the same one, found out it was just bad.
[12:47] <Dame> Anybody have working xen compiled from source on edgy?
[12:48] <linxeh> Stormx2: it depends how you set up the apps, and whether the apps can cope with it
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: its only 3 weeks away
[12:48] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: Is that because you have a sound card that doesn't have hardware mixing?
[12:48] <sabotai> neozen: what is?
[12:48] <Stormx2> I don't know >.< Its an oldish card.
[12:48] <ztomiccomputers> Cod1, btw, is that a lappy?
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: feisty fawn
[12:48] <thehumanerror> I have that in my ThinkPad X24
[12:48] <thehumanerror> it sucks
[12:48] <sabotai> neozen: whats that?
[12:48] <jrib> sabotai: well the advantages of edgy are basically that newer software is available.  The advantages of dapper is that it will receive security updates for a longer period of time, so you won't be /forced/ to upgrade for a while
[12:48] <neozen> sabotai: next release
[12:48] <Stormx2> It might just be my software setup? It mixes fine on windows.
[12:48] <Tom_Kun_> ant: well, I do know that atmel cards really aren't that good in linux generally. I've had to connect wired from this computer every time I've used a linux distro.. It would've been nice to get it working though :p
[12:48] <thehumanerror> yeah, it's software mixing
[12:48] <kjm> neozen - feisty is only 3 weeks away?  Feels like just yesterday I upgraded to edgy
[12:48] <Tom_Kun_> since everything else works so smoothly
[12:49] <sabotai> neozen: oh ok
[12:49] <linxeh> Stormx2: and you use the same applications, with the SAME CONFIGURATION OF LINUX DEVICES on your windows box? really...
[12:49] <thehumanerror> if that is what the problem is after all, it's jus ta guess
[12:49] <neozen> kjm: yeah.... released around a month from now
[12:49] <neozen> !feisty
[12:49] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[12:49] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : the bad part is that other people have had it work so easy.
[12:49] <thehumanerror> linxeh: That's a very helpful comment
[12:49] <jrib> sabotai: even if you wait for feisty to be released you would still need to ugprade to edgy first before upgrading to feisty
[12:49] <l90bpm> is this not one?  www.tightvnc.com/download.html
[12:49] <eimajenthat> Anyone running VirtualBox on a dual-processor machine?  Does it take advantage of the duality?
[12:49] <sabotai> i had problem when trying to upgrade from drapper to edgy, my pc crashed when it was upgrading
[12:49] <kjm> well, kiss my grits - I'm going to have to give the alpha a shot.
[12:49] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : its not like its known not to work.
[12:49] <Stormx2> linxeh: Point taken. I've never ever been able to have more than one app playing sound though. Its annoying as anything. Surely this isn't a hardware problem if it works fine on windows?
[12:49] <linxeh> thehumanerror: and so was that
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: try looking up dmix
[12:50] <linxeh> Stormx2: it depends on the applications, and what devices they are writing to
[12:50] <Stormx2> Okay.
[12:50] <lugod> 190bpm: you can just use the packaged version, no need to get it from tightvnc.com
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: on the Ubuntu wiki
[12:50] <Stormx2> linxeh: ALSA...
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: yeah, ALSA dmix
[12:50] <neozen> jrib: I plan on just whacking out my / and keeping my home ... that should make feisty feel welcome
[12:50] <l90bpm> as long as I can do it I'll be happy
[12:50] <Tom_Kun_> ant: true.. :) just hoped someone in here might have some idea how to get the atmel driver to load on the specific device. Since it's not doing so automagically
[12:50] <lugod> 190bpm: I can send you my script for using vnc over ssh by e-mail if you like
[12:50] <thehumanerror> Stormx2: that might well be it
[12:50] <Stormx2> thehumanerror: Okay, thanks.
[12:50] <TheVault> I got a question. Anybody fimilar with the Firefox extension CLC Speak?
[12:50] <jrib> neozen: yeah, that's a nice way to do it
[12:50] <asdsklf> hello, how can I boot to console closing xwindow so I can install NVIDIA drivers?
[12:51] <l90bpm><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:51] <jrib> !nvidia > asdsklf    (asdsklf, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:51] <trester> jrib your the man totally worked
[12:51] <TheVault> Basicly an extension that allows the pages to be read to you when you select text and click read?
[12:51] <jrib> trester: great
[12:51] <lugod> 190bpm: ok
[12:51] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : does it show up under 'lsusb'?
[12:51] <l90bpm> note: that is a number 1 in the email
[12:51] <KalleDK> gmail :D
[12:51] <trester> jrib got any quick links for compiz?
[12:51] <l90bpm> some ppl get that confused w/ an L
[12:51] <Tom_Kun_> ant: it shows up under BUs 002, Device 004 on lsusb
[12:51] <asdsklf> thanks!, checking
[12:51] <Stormx2> How can I find my alsa version?
[12:51] <linxeh> Stormx2:  you might also want to consider something like Jack
[12:51] <l90bpm> thank you lugod
[12:51] <jrib> trester: sure, you should even be able to get them yourself by typing this:  /msg ubotu compiz
[12:52] <jrib> !compiz > trester    (trester, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <iUbuntu> What's the differences between Multiverse vs Universe in Software Source of Ubuntu?
[12:52] <trester> jrib thanks!
[12:52] <sabotai> how do you leave a message when quiting?
[12:52] <jrib> !repos > iUbuntu    (iUbuntu, see the private message from ubotu)
[12:52] <KnowledgEngi> flac is a free format ?
[12:52] <jrib> sabotai: /quit MESSAGE HERE
[12:52] <livingdaylight> What wireless card for Desktop work best for Ubuntu: i.e. work out of the box without configuring narffing
[12:52] <jrib> KnowledgEngi: yes
[12:52] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : i had a problem with my camera once.. come to find out i didn't have the right permissions for it.
[12:52] <neozen> iUbuntu: multiverse is legal grey-area and non free
[12:52] <neozen> iUbuntu: in theory
[12:52] <KnowledgEngi> what package i need for run flac?
[12:53] <linxeh> Stormx2: cat /proc/asound/version
[12:53] <iUbuntu> neomi,  So, non-free softwares are in Multiverse, got it.. what about Universe?
[12:53] <iUbuntu> neozen,  *
[12:53] <Flannel> !repositories | iUbuntu
[12:53] <CarlosJackal> anyone else here have the problem that Ubuntu freezes with the screen drawing all manner of jibberish when you press ctrl+alt+1-6 and try to bring up the console? Any ideas?
[12:53] <ubotu> iUbuntu: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[12:53] <Flannel> iUbuntu: Second link
[12:53] <l90bpm> need to borrow the bot..
[12:53] <Tom_Kun_> ant: might be that of course.. you never know what might turn up.. I'll have to try to get some hints on where to start, and take it from there. Since the kernel already has atmel precompiled, at least I hopefully wont have to do a kernel recompile to get it running :)
[12:53] <l90bpm> !paste
[12:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:53] <KnowledgEngi> !flac
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <gago0021> whatis the best python IDE?
[12:53] <neozen> iUbuntu: well.. don't get me wrong.... its still free... or it wouldn't be in there
[12:53] <darkrho> Hi, i have a quick question. ubuntu-metapackage contains all dependecies as ubunut-desktop iso?
[12:53] <Stormx2> linxeh: I'm on 1.0.12rc1...... "NOTE: For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix. Dmix is enabled as default for soundcards which don't support hw mixing."
[12:54] <neozen> gago0021: komodo... heard good things about komodo
[12:54] <mpmc> can someone tell me why Maximising / Minimising feels really slow...?
[12:54] <jrib> gago0021: there is no best one, just use what you like.  python.org lists a lot, try them all :)  If you want my personal preference, I like vim
[12:54] <linxeh> Stormx2: and you are sure your apps are using the alsa devices, and not /dev/dsp etc ?
[12:54] <darkrho> ... i'm building a debootstrap env, and installing ubuntu-desktop, is the same like installing from desktop cd?
[12:54] <gago0021> ok thanks :)
[12:54] <jrib> mpmc: have you installed the video drivers for your card?
[12:54] <neozen> mpmc you've got a lot of aps running
[12:54] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : well to get my camera working i had to find the bus# and the usb # and then type 'chmod go+w /proc/bus/usb/002/008'
[12:55] <Cod1> Can someone help me with my sound?  I dont have alsaconf
[12:55] <neozen> mpmc or you're using beryl..... in which case.... you don't care
[12:55] <kjm> Cod1 : apt-get install alsaconf then
[12:55] <Cod1> doesnt work
[12:55] <zaza> guys, there is a modified firefox, which doesn't include the cairo support. does anyone know it's name?
[12:55] <Kazero> Can someone help me? I upgraded from edgy to feisty, but now X fails to load withe rrors: VESA: No Mathcing Modes and Screems found, but none have a usuable configuration. Recovering modes dont load.
[12:55] <Flannel> Kazero: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty support
[12:55] <jrib> Kazero: #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[12:55] <Cod1> E: Couldn't find package alsaconf
[12:55] <kjm> more information than "doesnt work" would be beneficial.
[12:55] <kjm> ok
[12:56] <zaza> guys, there is a modified firefox, which doesn't include the cairo support. does anyone know it's name?
[12:56] <neozen> vim does work for just about everything
[12:56] <gregcha117> alright i just installed vmware and followed the guide to getting my existing windows partition to run under vmware from advicesource.org and i keep getting this error : could not open /dev/vmmon: no such device, pleace make usre that the kernel module 'vmmon' is loaded.
[12:56] <ant> Tom_Kun_ : or try a chmod 777 and maybe switch permissions later
[12:56] <neozen> cairo?
[12:56] <livingdaylight> !wireless
[12:56] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:56] <neozen> gregcha117: you recompiled your kernel right?
[12:56] <[M] orpheus> X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest anyone knows why it gives this message when i run a game?
[12:56] <neozen> gregcha117: I think that's necessary
[12:57] <Stormx2> linxeh: Sure. I'm used sonata which I know uses ALSA with audacious which also uses ALSA.
[12:57] <gregcha117> neozen: it said to use automatix to install but i couldnt find that so i just installed vmware through the terminal
[12:57] <neozen> gregcha117: the default kernel doesn't have support for vmware's extentions to it compiled in
[12:57] <sabotai> cud any1 tell me whats the name of the package for flash plugin?
[12:57] <Flannel> gregcha117: You're lucky.  You don't want to use automatix.
[12:57] <Flannel> !flash | sabotai
[12:57] <ubotu> sabotai: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:57] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:57] <linxeh> Cod1: install alsa-utils and alsa-tools  + alsa-tools-gui
[12:57] <neozen> gregcha117: your guide should've said something about modifying your kernel
[12:57] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  in my own words, restricted is a free reserved software, right?
[12:58] <sabotai> !flash
[12:58] <Flannel> iUbuntu: Reserved?
[12:58] <gregcha117> neozen: no it didnt mention anything about modifying the kernel, just said to install it using automatix
[12:58] <daziplqa> !flash
[12:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:58] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:58] <swhalen> !lame
[12:58] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2 (edgy), package size 260 kB, installed size 696 kB
[12:58] <neozen> gregcha117: you're going to want to modify your kernel
[12:58] <gregcha117> neozen: how would i go about doing that?
[12:58] <neozen> gregcha117: ...just a sec... I'll get you a better guide
[12:59] <iUbuntu> Flannel,  reserved as in reserved software that is used commonly.
[12:59] <linxeh> Cod1:  oh hang on , it looks like alsa-conf has been removed
[12:59] <linxeh> Cod1: it used to be in alsa-utils :o
[12:59] <mpmc> Jrib / neozen: I only have 3 apps running, It just feels slow.. I can see the app frame slowly going down to the tray area, If I enable desktop effects they minimise / maximise fine.  Nvidia.
[01:00] <Flannel> BigMike: just... install something else overtop of it
[01:00] <ant> good ole fdisk MBR
[01:00] <neozen> lol
[01:00] <neozen> freedos ahoy!
[01:00] <Flannel> iUbuntu: eh?  restricted is stuff that isn't free but is supported
[01:00] <gregcha117> neozen: thanks!
[01:00] <BigMike> Flannel: I need to make the other drive the boot drive so I need to remove grub from a seond drive
[01:01] <neozen> gregcha117: my pleasure
[01:01] <wols> BigMike: huh?
[01:01] <Flannel> BigMike: no you don't, just install grub on the first drive, and make it your boot HD
[01:01] <beg1689> hey, is feisty ready for everyday use?
[01:01] <rupcha> hi
[01:01] <wols> BigMike: which drive is the bootdrive is decided by bIOS, nothing else
[01:01] <Flannel> beg1689: it's beta software.  So, no.
[01:01] <BigMike> Flannel - okay...long story...big breath....
[01:01] <neozen> beg1689: its alpha... which means its good for everyday debugging
[01:01] <beg1689> well what is beta exactly, arent they just adding new features?
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: its a month away from everyday use
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: beta means it MIGHT work in its current for
[01:02] <neozen> m
[01:02] <Flannel> beg1689: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_software
[01:02] <neozen> beg1689: tis unstable... and not guarenteed to work
[01:02] <neozen> ...nice Flannel
[01:02] <ant> !beta | beg1689
[01:02] <ubotu> beg1689: Just because it's almost ready doesn't mean you should use it.  Final releases happen when they do for a reason; unless you'd like to become familiar with those reasons through a system that won't boot, just be patient.
[01:02] <Tom_Kun_> bbl.. restart time
[01:02] <beg1689> well i would like to have the nice update packages, kernel 2.6.20, newer nvidia drivers and stuff all int he repo
[01:02] <Flannel> beg1689: Beta means you're opening it to 'general' testing, by regular people.  But it's still buggy.
[01:03] <neozen> lol
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: its only a month away
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: patience
[01:03] <beg1689> too long
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> Why is it that when I try to install nvidia-glx, it wants to remove nvidia-settings, and vice versa?!
[01:03] <beg1689> alright alright
[01:03] <Flannel> beg1689: Alpha software is usually not fit for general consumption, traditionally it's not open to public testing, but in most cases now a days, it is.  But don't expect to be stable day to day.
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: lol... then get to developing
[01:03] <beg1689> nvidia-glx includes nvidia-settings
[01:03] <neozen> beg1689: I'm sure they could use the help testing
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> beg1689: Since when? -.o
[01:03] <Drac|BComp> Well thanks
[01:04] <neozen> beg1689: just don't store mission critical stuff on it
[01:04] <beg1689> well iw as thinking of trying it on another partition
[01:04] <ant> hehe
[01:04] <mpmc> Does anyone know how the hell I disable that god damn frame when Minimising / Maximising... ?
[01:04] <neozen> beg1689: ie... homework, stuff for work, stuff that if you lose.. it could get you canned
[01:04] <l90bpm> lmao
[01:04] <BigMike> I got 2 drives. Drive 1 is windows. Drive 2 is Ubuntu (6.10) I installed GRUB to the *second* drive because I thought it would mess up the boot-to-dvd-movie feature on my hp laptop. So I was using a CD to boot and then that would let me select "boot to disk 2" I have since discovered that grub seems to play well with the embedded windows partition. So now I want to move grub and not deal with the cd boot. So I guess I would hav
[01:04] <BigMike> e to remove grub from the second drive so that when I install it to the first drive, it doesnt get tangled by having grub on two drives
[01:04] <Flannel> beg1689: Feisty support is in #ubuntu+1, Ask there about it's current state of stability.
[01:04] <neozen> mpmc: LOL
[01:05] <wols> BigMike: no
[01:05] <Flannel> BigMike: no.  Just install grub on your first drive, and... forget about it on your second.
[01:05] <wols> reinstall grub, this time to the 1st harddisk mbr
[01:05] <mpmc> neozen: I'm glad you find it funny :(
[01:05] <BigMike> Oh no kidding?
[01:05] <BigMike> That is awesome
[01:05] <Flannel> !grub | BigMike, first link has instructions
[01:05] <ubotu> BigMike, first link has instructions: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:05] <neozen> mpmc: its just..... you're so animated.. I can picture you swearing at your computer from here
[01:05] <Alan__> hello
[01:05] <l90bpm> yeah m2
[01:05] <ant> ahh i remember the lilo days
[01:05] <l90bpm> me2*
[01:05] <mcscruff> ,l
[01:06] <l90bpm> damn fingers
[01:06] <BigMike> The little bugger is smarter than I give it credit for
[01:06] <neozen> mpmc: just like I used to do when I ran JBuilder on a winxp machine with only 256mb ram
[01:06] <neozen> I would POUND on it
[01:06] <l90bpm> I've been there.. had a rough time the first install
[01:06] <l90bpm> beryl?
[01:06] <neozen> well.. the monitor anyway
[01:06] <neozen> lol
[01:06] <mpmc> neozen: 2.4ghz, 768mb ram.. so I don't think it's that :P
[01:06] <Alan__> is there anybody with ubuntu feisty fawn on a sata hd?
[01:07] <ant> #ubuntu+1 probly has a couple
[01:07] <wols> !anybody
[01:07] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:07] <neozen> mpmc: you're running too much stuff
[01:07] <l90bpm> nah' that's more than this machine has.. and it's as smooth as a babies butt over here
[01:07] <neozen> !feisty
[01:07] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:07] <neozen> go there Alan__
[01:08] <BigMike> I was looking at a thread and it looks like I can just be in my Ubuntu system and just do Setup (hd0) from the grub prompt..no?
[01:08] <neozen> there you may find what you seek
[01:08] <l90bpm> love the idea of auto-codec..  hate the idea of alpha
[01:08] <l90bpm> mixed emotions huh?
[01:08] <neozen> auto-codec?
[01:08] <iUbuntu> Why is that I can't hear sound from youtube, but I can test it Perferences > Sound, TEST? I hear static sound when I press "TEST"
[01:08] <l90bpm> yeah
[01:08] <[M] orpheus> Runing glxgears I got this error, "Error: Could not get dma buffer... exiting" help?
[01:08] <l90bpm> supposedly if your missing a codec, it walks you through
[01:09] <dabaR> !flash | iUbuntu
[01:09] <ubotu> iUbuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:09] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[01:09] <l90bpm> heard that ealier today actually
[01:09] <dabaR> iUbuntu: try installing the beta from backports.
[01:09] <Tom_Kun> oh well, that didn't help :)
[01:09] <ant> Tom_Kun : did you try chmod 777?
[01:10] <neozen> l90bpm: sounds like easyubuntu... a nice little gui.... with nice little checkboxes for everything you might need in ubuntus .....but sometimes....
[01:10] <ant> Tom_Kun : i think you need execute permission to see files in a folder.
[01:10] <neozen> l90bpm: BOOM!
[01:10] <dabaR> easy codec installation: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/herd4#head-8aac4593bb52b2a8e7f082b28b7cbee85fc50738
[01:10] <ScatterBrain> Anyway to disable the "Desktop Effects" without being in Gnome?
[01:10] <neozen> and pow! your dependancies are boned
[01:10] <l90bpm> one day I'll be at a command line w/o paste
[01:10] <dabaR> ant: do not suggest 777...
[01:10] <l90bpm> but till then, that sounds wonderful
[01:10] <iUbuntu> dabaR, But The  Ubuntu sound works fine, is this a known issue with Flash? Should I install flashplugins-mozilla and/or flashplugins-nonfree?
[01:10] <BigMike> Flannel - thanks for the link. I saw a post that makes it appear that I can just boot to Ubuntu on my HD and do setup(hd0) from the grub promp. Does that sound right?
[01:10] <ant> dabaR : its temporary.
[01:11] <neozen> l90bpm: that.. will be a scary day
[01:11] <l90bpm> lol
[01:11] <Zenerek> i considered easy ubuntu, but i wanted to learn so i took the hard road
[01:11] <wols> iUbuntu: do you have OSS emulation with sound?
[01:11] <neozen> iUbuntu: I just installed adobe-flashplayer9
[01:11] <iUbuntu> wols,  Ubuntu Sound works, like when I type something in gaim or play DVD, but not with youtube
[01:11] <neozen> ...worked like a champ
[01:11] <dabaR> iUbuntu: the sound works, but your flash does not work well, that is what youtube uses. try installing those, and if that does not help, enable backports, and then install the beta of the new flash.
[01:11] <Tom_Kun> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1371:0001  <-- it seems that it isn't recognizing this ID code as a known card
[01:11] <wols> iUbuntu: that is not what I asked
[01:11] <Tom_Kun> thus, isn't connecting it to a proper driver
[01:11] <Flannel> BigMike: hmm.  That... may work.  I'd use a liveCD though (as that's what hte link actually says)
[01:12] <iUbuntu> wols,  ALSA
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: update pciids
[01:12] <l90bpm> well I'm off to set up my wife spy, just kidding..  can't wait to see what VNC is like
[01:12] <mpmc> neozen: I'm only running, a few apps, this also happened on xubuntu as well so.. The problem isn't with the apps its the minimising / maximising animation.. (Frame slowly shrinks down) it really does feel slow, but the apps are really responsive, I'm running the beta. I guess I'll just have to leave the desktop effects enabled....
[01:12] <l90bpm> see you all later
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: and not recognizing it that way has no influence about drivers. none
[01:12] <dabaR> l90bpm: see ya
[01:12] <neozen> the beta of what??
[01:12] <wols> Tom_Kun: update-pciids to be exact
[01:12] <dabaR> neozen: of the flash
[01:12] <dabaR> 9
[01:13] <rupcha> Edgy installer can't find iso image... Installing from USB stick. First part of installation is ok, until it starts looking for the image. Trying to install ubuntu server. iso is in root dir of usb stick. Any ideas? Thx
[01:13] <mpmc> neozen: Ubuntu 7.04 <_<
[01:13] <neozen> OH
[01:13] <Zenerek> there's a flash newer than 9?
[01:13] <neozen> ..ok
[01:13] <BigMike> Flannel - gotcha. Thanks I'll give it a whirl. If I dont come back...I screwed it up
[01:13] <neozen> no worries for me then
[01:13] <dabaR> Zenerek: no
[01:13] <Flannel> BigMike: if you don't come back, change your BIOS to boot back to 2nd HD ;)
[01:13] <Zenerek> then what's this beta?
[01:13] <Tom_Kun> wols: any other good suggestions as to why it isn't trying to load any driver for it then? :)
[01:13] <wols> Tom_Kun: for what?
[01:13] <dabaR> Zenerek: flash 9 for linux beta
[01:13] <wols> and what drivers are you trying?
[01:14] <Stormx2> Could someone recommend to me a nice way of finding the largest _directories_ within the current directory?
[01:14] <Flannel> Zenerek, dabaR, flash9 is no longer beta.
[01:14] <Tom_Kun> wols: atmel based (specificly cnet 611) usb wlan dongle
[01:14] <rupcha> Stormx2: du ?
[01:14] <dabaR> ls -h
[01:14] <dabaR> Stormx2: try ls -lh
[01:15] <wols> Stormx2: du | sort -g
[01:15] <Zenerek> oh oh i was not getting what you were saying, i installed flash 9 the other day (none beta)
[01:15] <wols> Tom_Kun: is it recongized in dmesg when you plug it in?
[01:15] <mpmc> Can anyone access the msnp servers?
[01:15] <wols> does it show up in lsusb?
[01:16] <Stormx2> wols, dabaR, rupcha, thanks :)
[01:16] <mike1o> is there a way to restore all the applications in a fresh install I had on a previous installation automatically?
[01:16] <Tom_Kun> wols: yes it is :)
[01:16] <neozen> Stormx2: du
[01:17] <Stormx2> neozen: Don't worry, got it
[01:17] <wols> Tom_Kun: does wireless-tools recognize it?
[01:17] <bh_> Stormx2: du --max-depth=1|sorg -g
[01:17] <neozen> mike1o: no
[01:17] <Stormx2> Guys I've just freed 6.5gb >.<
[01:17] <bh_> Stormx2: sort -g that is
[01:17] <mike1o> neozen, semi automatically?
[01:17] <neozen> mike1o: this is not windows..... when you install over an old / ..... the old / is gone
[01:18] <dabaR> mike1o: You can dpkg -l to see what is installed on the disk right now. Some people recommend backing up the /var/cache/apt/archives, which is where the installed packages live. That is if your bandwidth is not a commodity.
[01:18] <neozen> mike1o: sure..... remember the names of the packages you had installed
[01:18] <neozen> time for a break
[01:18] <Zenerek> mike1o i was sorta wondering the same thing, so far i have download sbackup and backed up my var/cache/apt/archives folder
[01:18] <neozen> back later all
[01:19] <mike1o> neozen, but if I keep my home dir all the configurations should remain right?
[01:19] <Stormx2> Zenerek: I think that would install things you've previously installed then uninstalled...
[01:19] <bh_> what's the official upgrade procedure (edgy->feisty)?
[01:19] <dabaR> mike1o: application configurations specific to your user, yes. server configurations are in /etc
[01:19] <Stormx2> !upgrade
[01:19] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:20] <Tom_Kun> wols: as far as I can see, nothing is recognized about the device other than that it is a usb device. Nothing shows up using the wireless commands
[01:20] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be
[01:20] <mike1o> dabaR, gnome edgy config files should be compatible with feisty ones...
[01:20] <dabaR> !cloning
[01:21] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[01:21] <dabaR> mike1o: I don't know.
[01:21] <jmg> hello all
[01:21] <Vorian> hi jmg :)
[01:21] <jmg> does anyone know how to prevent gdm managing my :0.1 screen and leave it as a bare x server?
[01:21] <captstevenhiller> anyone in here have the time and patience to help me with a compiling error?
[01:21] <dabaR> !automate | mike1o
[01:21] <ubotu> mike1o: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[01:21] <beg1689> wow thats pretty sweet
[01:21] <dabaR> mike1o: and then the cloning above, too.
[01:21] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: what language?
[01:22] <dabaR> jmg: you want to not use gdm?
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> im running edgy
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> and its a tar
[01:22] <captstevenhiller> tar.bz2
[01:22] <dabaR> !compiling | captstevenhiller
[01:22] <ubotu> captstevenhiller: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:22] <dabaR> Did you read that yet?
[01:22] <jmg> dabaR: not on the second screen
[01:22] <darksoule> My brother recently installed ubuntu on his computer. The only password he set doesn't work for su. Is there a way to default the root password or reset it?
[01:22] <jmg> dabaR: i want freevo on there
[01:23] <Enverex> When I log in it seems to take ages for Gnome to finish loading even though I dont have any extra applications set to open when I log in. Is there anything obvious I should check? (it's not a low power machine)
[01:23] <wols> darksoule: there is a way and no you're not supposed to use it. you are supposed to use sudo
[01:23] <mike1o> darksoule, root is disabled in ubuntu
[01:23] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be
[01:23] <dabaR> jmg: I do not know, but there is a /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, did you read that file?
[01:23] <l90bpm> lugod- you still there?
[01:24] <jmg> dabaR: yes and its not very useful
[01:24] <jmg> dabaR: neither is the init script
[01:24] <dabaR> Enverex: run top in a console, maybe it will tell you what is running.
[01:24] <captstevenhiller> dabar: i keep getting an error message saying that c compilier cannot create excecutables
[01:24] <frosty> anyone in here tell me how I can get ubuntu to recognize my second hard drive?
[01:24] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: did you install the build-essential package?
[01:25] <meinnameisthase> hi, i'd like to use a beamer with ubuntu, it works with the wrong operating system, but it doesnt work with ubuntu
[01:25] <Wybiral> There is a programming channel btw.... #ubuntu-programming
[01:25] <matt____> my alacarte doesn't work right, it can't add menu items or delete them, i'm using edgy.
[01:25] <dabaR> !fstab
[01:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[01:25] <Kazero> Whats the gnome IRC client called?
[01:25] <Cod1> ok
[01:25] <Cod1> umm
[01:25] <dabaR> xchat-gnome
[01:25] <Amaranth> Kazero: xchat-gnome
[01:25] <captstevenhiller> dabar: how would i go about that
[01:25] <Amaranth> matt____: run it from a terminal and look for errors
[01:25] <frosty> what editor do I use ( I know nothing about this stuff, completely new to linux)
[01:25] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[01:25] <Cod1> who wants to help me compile the newest version of alsa?
[01:26] <matt____> Amaranth: i always run it from terminal, hold on....
[01:26] <captstevenhiller> thanks
[01:26] <VSpike> frosty: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:26] <matt____> Amaranth: /var/lib/python-support/python2.4/gtk-2.0/bonobo/__init__.py: inconsistent use of tabs and spaces in indentation
[01:26] <ant> frosty : if you read the page that was given to you it'll tell you how.
[01:26] <captstevenhiller> does that have to be in my program directory?
[01:27] <frosty> sorry the font on here is too small and I havent found a way to change it yet, thanks
[01:27] <matt____> Amaranth: does that mean anything to you???
[01:27] <Leibnew> Alguien habla espaol?
[01:27] <am_rods> any wireless network manager you can recommend me?
[01:27] <captstevenhiller> dabar: now its saying i need to install the flex package
[01:27] <ant> !es | Leibnew
[01:27] <ubotu> Leibnew: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:27] <matt____> Leibnew: hablo espanol a veces.
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: that's harmless
[01:28] <Leibnew> matt puede hablar en privado?
[01:28] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: show all errors on paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: and not even a warning in alacarte but in something it uses :)
[01:28] <matt____> Amaranth: thats all it gives me, if i try to add a menu item, it should come up with something else sholdn't it.
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> wols: ls
[01:28] <Amaranth> !es | Leibnew
[01:28] <captstevenhiller> ok, one second
[01:28] <ubotu> Leibnew: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> bah :)
[01:28] <am_rods> yo tambien hablo espanol
[01:28] <Amaranth> matt____: it should
[01:28] <Leibnew> gracias thanks you
[01:28] <Tom_Kun> wols: if you figure out a good way of how to progress, feel free to comment. Other than that, I'll be looking around for a solution
[01:29] <Leibnew> #ubuntu
[01:29] <wols> Tom_Kun: easy. load the driver manually
[01:29] <matt____> Leibnew: you habloe espanol mucho, soy en un clase de espanol cuatro en estados unidos, soy un america.
[01:29] <ant> #ubuntu-es
[01:29] <l90bpm> question on VNC:  maybe that is what you were meaning but I meant to ask you is it possible to create it on both machines? For instance, send from machine a to b one day and from b to a the next day?
[01:29] <Amaranth> Alright, no more spanish here. :) The rules have been explained.
[01:29] <wols> then configure it all manually (via /etc/network/interfaces)
[01:29] <Cyrano-Octavious> i jsut installed ubuntu and when i turn on my computer i get an error loading operating system message but if i put in any kinda of boot disk and cancel going into the boot grub will load and then load ubuntu anyone know what this could be any help please pm
[01:29] <am_rods> me parece que no, que no hablas muy bien el espanol :P
[01:29] <Leibnew> soy nuevo en esto del ubuntu, como puedo entrar a este canal #ubuntu?
[01:30] <captstevenhiller> dabar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11585/ <-thats the last line i ran. the build-essential went fine so i didnt include it.
[01:30] <darksoule> hmmmm.... also, emerge is not recognized... is that disabled too?
[01:30] <dabaR> Leibnew: /j #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <am_rods> any wireless network manager you can recommend me?
[01:30] <bh_> anyone know why /dev/hda is now /dev/sda?
[01:30] <Zenerek> how do you change permissions for multiple files?
[01:30] <wols> bh_: cause the kernel changed
[01:30] <Leibnew> gracias
[01:30] <Tom_Kun> wols: sounds like loads of fun
[01:30] <wols> bh_: libata
[01:31] <matt____> Amaranth: when i run alacarte, should i sudo it?
[01:31] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: sudo aptitude install flex
[01:31] <ant> am_rods : network-admin works
[01:31] <dabaR> captstevenhiller: I gotta run.
[01:31] <Amaranth> matt____: Under no circumstances should you ever run alacarte under sudo
[01:31] <mike1o> are TWAIN scanners usable in ubuntu?
[01:31] <bh_> wols: so hdparm does not (fully) work anymore. I.e. I can't set 32 bit I/O
[01:31] <matt____> Amaranth: i don't, however it didn't seem to pop up any messages when i was adding or anything
[01:32] <captstevenhiller> ok
[01:32] <captstevenhiller> thanks for your help
[01:32] <VSpike> mike1o: TWAIN is not I don't think, but scanners certainly are
[01:32] <VSpike> mike1o: you need SANE
[01:32] <wols> bh_: shouldn't change anything. unless it now uses the wrong driver for your ide controller
[01:32] <Leibnew> Alguien que sepa hablar espaol y que tenga conocimientos sobre wep..y redes q m de privado gracias...
[01:32] <l90bpm> Question on VNC -  Is it possible to create it on both machines? For instance, send from machine a to b one day and from b to a the next day?
[01:32] <wols> !es
[01:32] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:33] <philstar> how can I shut down vino-server?
[01:33] <wols> !sane mike1o
[01:33] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[01:33] <l90bpm> the breaker box..
[01:33] <l90bpm> just kidding
[01:33] <matt____> Amaranth: i can't get anything, heard of anyone else having problems with alacarte?
[01:34] <BigMike> Well I got good news and bad news. Turns out the boot disk I was using had supergrub on it. Ran the script and bada bing all is working and happy grubbiness. THe bad news is that it did indeed beef the embedded windows booter for booting direct to a movie dvd
[01:34] <Cod1> Does anyone know weather or not the newest version of Alsa is in usable testing version yet?
[01:34] <Cod1> ^^
[01:35] <Amaranth> matt____: I've never seen a problem like that before
[01:35] <Amaranth> matt____: I'm the developer
[01:36] <Moniker42> hey, i'm in a big mess of kde, kdm gdm kubuntu etc etc... i have gdm
[01:36] <Moniker42> but how do i revert to ubuntu gnome desktop?
[01:36] <matt____> Amaranth: well, when i try to add something, like america's army, i add an icon, a name, and the path to execute, it doesn't show up. however, i did manage to add tremolous the same way.
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: logout and back in
[01:36] <Moniker42> because at the moment all i have is a fractured kubuntu-desktop beause i tried to uninstalled kubuntu-desktop with apt-get
[01:36] <rmd> Moniker42, at the login screen, click the "session" button and choose "gnome session" from the menu
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: oh, wait
[01:36] <philstar> that is, how can I shut down vino-server remotely?
[01:36] <Amaranth> matt____: It's because you have a space in the name :/
[01:36] <rupcha> BTW, How can I get the gnome panel to offer higher screen resolutions? Max I can select is 1024x768. (Nvidia card)
[01:36] <Moniker42> rmd, you know........ i should've tried that :(
[01:37] <Cod1> Does anyone know weather or not the newest version of Alsa is in usable testing version yet?
[01:37] <rmd> Moniker42, make sure you tell it to save gnome desktop as the defauly
[01:37] <rmd> default*
[01:37] <matt____> Amaranth: really? what about like "Freecel Solitare", it has a space, and it works. is there anything i can do to fix it so i can?
[01:37] <Amaranth> matt____: it's a bug in alacarte
[01:37] <rmd> and for the love of god, get rid of the rest of the awful, awful kubuntu-desktop :)
[01:37] <Amaranth> matt____: it's fixed in feisty though ;)
[01:38] <am_rods> ant: network-admin is not in synaptic
[01:38] <bh_> got my /home on seperate disk. Need more space, so is it possible to change to LVM without erasing the disk?
[01:38] <matt____> Amaranth: ahh, alright, i just won't worry then, i can manage using "Army", instead of "America's Army" for another 4 weeks. lol, thanks, i really appreciate what this open source thing is doing keep up the good work!
[01:38] <ant> am_rods : it should come with a default ubuntu install, type gksu network-admin
[01:39] <bh_> if I buy an extra disk
[01:39] <Amaranth> matt____: if you name it "Army" then rename it it'll work
[01:39] <Hammwell> anyone able to install perl module Apache2::ModSSL ? I get weird errors, while ALL the other mod_perl stuff inside handlers with the other Apache2:: modules is humming along.
[01:39] <Berad> I downloaded MySQL-client, how do I run it :/
[01:39] <Amaranth> matt____: it's just that when you create it i used the Name as the filename and you can't use spaces in the filename
[01:40] <Berad> !mysql
[01:40] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:40] <[xDCDx] > what exactly determines which number is given to my eternet device? If I boot to via nfsroot, I get eth0; but if I boot to the local hard disk, using a similar initramfs and the same config files, I get eth1 as my network card. The weird thing is that I only have one network card
[01:40] <matt____> Amaranth: really? i have noticed in terminal it has problems with spaces, but you can fix it like /home/matt/Desktop/folder\ 1/whatever forward slashes you know, took me forever to figure that out. but thanks for the help
[01:41] <Cod1> I would ask two questions: 1) does the testing branch contain alsa version >= 1.0.8, and if so, 2) is the testing branch ready for use by non-developers
[01:42] <matt____> Amaranth: yep, it worked/ :)
[01:42] <Rio> i had ubuntu running with a http server and media wiki.  the power went out, now when i boot up ubuntu, the http server still runs, but mediawiki does not.  does this sound typical?  how would you go about fixing it?
[01:42] <phishy> what utility does the automounting of usb drives?
[01:42] <Zenerek> yeah had to do that \ thing in wine... well if you wanted anything with spaces in the path to run
[01:42] <mjr> phishy, gnome-volume-manager (if in gnome)
[01:43] <Slick> bye everyone!
[01:43] <Slick> x
[01:43] <bh_> Cod1: 1. alsa 1.0.12
[01:43] <phishy> mjr: i rely on my usb drives for backups, but sometimes they mount in different orders
[01:43] <phishy> mjr: is there a way to solve that?
[01:43] <Cod1> 1.0.12 is the newest?
[01:44] <Cod1> and is it abailable
[01:44] <bh_> Cod1: ready for use. It works for me, but it's beta... So you know, no guarantees
[01:44] <Cod1> available**
[01:44] <Cod1> cool man
[01:44] <Cod1> do you think you can give me a link
[01:44] <Cod1> to get it
[01:44] <Cod1> im a newb
[01:44] <mjr> phishy, give the drives' filesystems labels, then they mount under /media/label
[01:45] <Rio> im also looking for a good site for new computers.  system76 is one, do you guys know of any others?
[01:45] <amphi> can someone tell me what version of alsa is in 7.04 ?
[01:45] <phishy> mjr: haha, awesome, thanks
[01:46] <RedRose> !addusers
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addusers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <bh_> Cod1: I assume you mean the beta for feisty. You can upgrade from previous versions
[01:46] <ant> RedRose : type man adduser
[01:46] <RedRose> I installed a text only system, and I want to create a new user, so I user the adduser command, and it says i can only have one or two logins
[01:46] <Cod1> how do i go about doing that
[01:47] <pisedoffcracker1> do virutal hard drives work
[01:47] <bh_> Cod1: which version are you using now
[01:47] <Cod1> 1.0.11 i think
[01:47] <RedRose> What is a system user?Like what privilages do they get?
[01:47] <bh_> Cod1: of ubuntu I meant.
[01:48] <Cod1> oh
[01:48] <Cod1> 6.10
[01:48] <Cod1> edgy eft
[01:48] <bh_> Cod1: sorry I assumed you where on Feisty. There is probably no easy way. You need to compile alsa yourself.
[01:48] <ant> RedRose : the account you made during installation gets all privelages with the "sudo" command
[01:48] <ant> !sudo RedRose
[01:48] <ubotu> sudo: Provide limited super user privileges to specific users. In component main, is important. Version 1.6.8p12-4ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 161 kB, installed size 396 kB
[01:50] <RedRose> ant: I got it, I was able to add user, it's not a power issue. But I'm reading the man pages and I see a system user, what is the difference between a system user and just a normal user?
[01:50] <ant> RedRose : i dunno, in here it'd probly be just a matter of opinion..
[01:51] <RedRose> Lol, Well no, I mean it's a legit option in adduser, to create a normal user Vs system user
[01:51] <ant> ask someone
[01:51] <ant> whats a system user?
[01:51] <[M] orpheus> Hi, on driconf it show that my video is a radeon 9500 but it's a 9600 xt... help?
[01:51] <ant> as opposed to a normal user?
[01:52] <mjr> [M] orpheus, that shouldn't really matter much...
[01:52] <[M] orpheus> mjr: i wold like to activate hyperz, but i can't find that option on driconf...
[01:52] <ant> it maybe an admin account
[01:52] <[M] orpheus> would*
[01:53] <mjr> [M] orpheus, well, I don't know what that is or if it's supported, let alone in the gui...
[01:53] <Zenerek> question, i want this other user to be able to rub wvdial and firestarter without sudo (this user is not a admin or has such rights) i have so far made this user part of the dialout group
[01:54] <[M] orpheus> mjr: I do think it's supported... but since it thinks that is other vga i cant ;(
[01:54] <ant> anyone know the definition of a 'system' user? is it admin?
[01:54] <bulmer> Zenerek: man visudo
[01:56] <ant> RedRose : i would bet on admin, but the word system seems real broad.
[01:57] <Stylee-FilipBole> where are the backgrounds stored?
[01:57] <RedRose> yeah
[01:58] <Stylee-FilipBole> anyone here know, wher are backgrounds stored?
[01:58] <pkh> we're trying to use tightvnc between computers that are behind nat'ing routers.  is there a way to get through?
[01:58] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : assuming your talking about gnome i think :/home/user/.gconf/desktop/gnome/background
[01:58] <am_rods> how aircrack is used?
[01:58] <pkh> there about 10 computers behind one router and about 5 behing the other -- all have to be able to talk to the others...
[01:59] <ant> am_rods : type aircrack-ng -n64 or -n128 <dumpfile>
[01:59] <Stylee-FilipBole> ant: thanke you, you saved me time for shearching :)
[01:59] <Toma-> am_rods: you need to capture as many IVS as posssible then see if it can crack it
[01:59] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : just use 'locate' to find stuff fast
[01:59] <rupcha> pkh: setup a vpn?
[02:00] <am_rods> ant: what does <dumpfile> stands for?
[02:00] <Stylee-FilipBole> ant: thanke you, I've tried to use the find function of nautilus, but I didn't find nothing
[02:01] <rmd> is there a file i can edit to add a line to erase and "touch" my .bash_history when i log off?
[02:01] <ant> am_rods : the dumpfile holds the IV packets "sniffed"
[02:01] <ant> Stylee-FilipBole : use updatedb before locate to update the file database.
[02:01] <bobo> is beta being released tonight?
[02:02] <Jordan_U> How likely is it that if I buy a laptop with bluetooth, without reasearching the chipset, that it will be supported?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> bobo: For Feisty?  Tomorrow I think.  #ubuntu+1
[02:03] <ant> !hardware Jordan_U
[02:03] <Ax3> trying to compile eggdrop under ubuntu, but it can't find "tcl", anyone know the path?
[02:03] <ant> !hardware | Jordan_U
[02:03] <ubotu> Jordan_U: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:04] <LadyNikon> Jordan_U: if you buy something thats like brand new.. probably not so likely
[02:04] <LadyNikon> if you buy a laptop that is maybe a year old.. more likely
[02:05] <Toma-> is it possible to mix debian experimental stuff with ubuntu?
[02:05] <rmd> Jordan_U, I have a dell laptop from less than a year ago and have 0 problems.
[02:05] <progek> Hi room, anyone know how to run Beryl and Java Swing apps together? I always have to turn Beryl off for Java Swing apps to display. I tried a script fix on the forums but that didn't work.
[02:05] <Toma-> *without totally destorying the world*
[02:05] <Ax3> "tclsh" works in prompt, but when i do a ./configure it says "configure error: TCL cannot be found on this system"
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Toma-, Only if you use a source repo.
[02:05] <Ax3> anyone know a work around?
[02:05] <fbarcenas> Help! I followed the wifidocs in the wiki to get my BCM4306 working and none of those procedures worked! Yes, they enabled the card, but I can't connect to any the access points.
[02:05] <ant> progek : beryl hates java, try #ubuntu-effects
[02:05] <coxande> anybody have flash reader ENE ?
[02:05] <Toma-> Jordan_U: ahh right :) thanks.
[02:05] <progek> thanks ant
[02:06] <Jordan_U> fbarcenas, Have you tried wifi-radar?
[02:06] <rmd> or "iwlist <interface> scan"?
[02:06] <fbarcenas> Jordan_U,  yup.. even kwiki manager and many others..
[02:07] <ant> fbarcenas : i think i heard that problem being wide spread with broadcom
[02:07] <froyd> is anybody there using xwinwrap ?
[02:07] <Jordan_U> fbarcenas, Ok, are you using NDIS wrapper or fwcutter?
[02:07] <coxande> anybody have flash reader ENE ?
[02:08] <fbarcenas> Jordan_U,  fwcutter...  the card used to work fine with fwcutter before my hard drive died and I had to reload everything. I don't remember what I did so long ago to get it to work..
[02:08] <ant> !broadcom | fbarcenas
[02:08] <ubotu> fbarcenas: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:08] <PinkFloyd> Is there anyway I can get Ubuntu, etc on floppy disks to install on an old lappy with no CD-ROM drive?
[02:09] <Pelo> PinkFloyd,  did you check the dl page ?
[02:09] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can do a netinstall
[02:09] <lonran> anyone tells me a voip webcam client?
[02:09] <Madpilot> PinkFloyd, that'd be an impressive stack of floppies!
[02:09] <fbarcenas> PinkFloyd,  you better off using the USB pen drive install, I've heard others using..
[02:09] <Jordan_U> !install | PinkFloyd
[02:09] <ubotu> PinkFloyd: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:09] <bulmer> PinkFloyd: you have a server to provide net install?
[02:09] <Toma-> lonran: ekiga
[02:09] <fbarcenas> PinkFloyd, if does have USB right?
[02:09] <PinkFloyd> It has no USB
[02:09] <ant> PinkFloyd : use a usb disk
[02:09] <ant> oh
[02:09] <PinkFloyd> It's an IBM Thinkpad 760ED
[02:10] <Ax3> Again, im trying to configure eggdrop under ubuntu, i get an error because it can't see TCL. Can anyone assist?
[02:10] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can install on another machine and swap the drive
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: laptop
[02:10] <ant> netinstall with a wireless card.
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: no wireless
[02:10] <ant> ha
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> er
[02:10] <bulmer> Jordan_U: that technique wont work on laptops
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> ant: only floppy
[02:10] <wols> bulmer: it will
[02:10] <PinkFloyd> It has a CD-ROM drive but the BIOS doesnt recognize it
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> Wont boot from it
[02:11] <wols> might be hard to connect the laptop disk to a desktop but it will work
[02:11] <bulmer> ok it will if you have same models and specs
[02:11] <Pelo> Madpilot,  I remember my first computer  (that I owned)  floppies   dos:6  win 3.11 = 15,  mouse 2, various drivers 4, autocad 14 ,   Office 4.2  36 ,   I would spend 6 hrs  playing toaster
[02:11] <wols> PinkFloyd: use a bootfloppy for kernel then continue with the CD
[02:11] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, Then you may still be able to boot from it using a GRUB floppy, _may_
[02:11] <wols> PinkFloyd: but I dunno how you'd do that with ubuntu
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> wols: know where I can get a boot floppy?
[02:11] <PinkFloyd> Ive got WinNT on it now
[02:11] <wols> not with ubuntu. or as Jordan_U said, try a grub floppy
[02:11] <__mikem> I installed irb1.8 and I can't access it from the terminal
[02:12] <__mikem> whats going on?
[02:12] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, You can make one with Ubuntu from another machine
[02:12] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: How?
[02:12] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: Ive got Ubuntu on another machine
[02:12] <mike1o> !clone
[02:12] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[02:12] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, I believe there is a GRUB-floppy command
[02:13] <Jordan_U> PinkFloydt, Yup, just: sudo grub-floppy /dev/fd0 should do it
[02:13] <Pelo> could PinkFloyd  unpack the cd to a hdd and boot the other comp from that for his install ?
[02:13] <Ax3> maybe this will help:
[02:13] <PinkFloyd> Jordan_U: I'll try that
[02:13] <ant> maybe from a serial hd?
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # settings that can be used to configure your bot.
[02:14] <Ax3> # This is a sample Eggdrop configuration file which includes all possible
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # $Id: eggdrop.conf,v 1.37 2004/05/27 06:29:45 wcc Exp $
[02:14] <Ax3> #
[02:14] <Ax3> # ^- This should contain a fully qualified path to your Eggdrop executable.
[02:14] <Ax3> #!/usr/eggdrop/eggdrop
[02:14] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, I have a bit of a problem
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> !paste | Ax3
[02:14] <ubotu> Ax3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:14] <Whitor> Hi.. I'm not sure if this is off topic... but after installing beryl, I cant move any of my windows. I googled the issue and found someone else with the same problem... they explaned how to fix it and it worked!... great, now, I just reinstalled using a different install image (ubuntu ultimate 1.3) and the same problem occured... this time, the previous fix doesn't work. Any ideas?
[02:14] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: what sort?
[02:14] <Jordan_U> PinkFloyd, But you will need to learn some stuff about GRUB to do it.
[02:14] <__mikem> I tried installing interactive ruby, but when I type irb at the terminal, nothing happens
[02:15] <PriceChild> !beryl | Whitor
[02:15] <ubotu> Whitor: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:15] <__mikem> it says command not found
[02:15] <bulmer> is it in your $PATH
[02:15] <Whitor> ubotu:  Thanks... I understand what beryl is
[02:15] <PriceChild> Whitor, read.
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: dpkg -L irb | grep bin
[02:16] <PriceChild> Whitor, "Help in #ubuntu-effects"
[02:16] <Whitor> ok sorry
[02:16] <PriceChild> Whitor, no problem, and btw ubotu is a bot ;)
[02:16] <wols> __mikem: "nothing happens" and "command not found" are VERY different things
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Ax3: Try again now - I think your buffer's cleared
[02:16] <Whitor> heh I see that
[02:16] <ax4> hey guys it's ax3
[02:16] <ax4> i wanna apologize
[02:16] <__mikem> wols yes I realized that I mispoke and corrected myself
[02:16] <ax4> freenx copied the terminal output, and not my rafb.net/paste
[02:16] <ant> no need, just use pastebin
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> Ax3: Hey, no problem.  I just unmuted you; just trying to stop the paste.  Try 'gain.  :)
[02:17] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, the output was /usr/bin/irb1.8
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> ax4: rather
[02:17] <ax4> before i knew it i was lagged up over here, couldn't stop it lol
[02:17] <ax4> ok thanks
[02:17] <ax4> again sorry
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: so try irb1.8 then?
[02:17] <__mikem> I did
[02:17] <__mikem> it said command not found
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: and still not found?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> weird....
[02:17] <bulmer> ax4 you got freeNX working? can you give some tips to get it going ?
[02:17] <__mikem> And this happened for several other packages I tried to install.
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: what if you run /usr/bin/irb1.8 explicitly
[02:18] <__mikem> tonyyarusso irb1.8 is a dirrectory
[02:18] <ax4> bulmer, i don't recall really having to wrestle with it at all, simply worked
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> __mikem: oooh, 'ls'?
[02:19] <bulmer> ax4: which key did you used and where you have it installed?
[02:19] <__mikem> wait nvm, I was typing something else
[02:19] <__mikem> yes that worked
[02:19] <bulmer> ax4: i have difficulty getting a client to work with it
[02:20] <__mikem> tonyyarusso, thanks for your help
[02:21] <ant> the room is quiet..
[02:21] <joincamp> if if change the mount point of a drive, will that break my symbolic links to it?
[02:22] <ax4> bulmer, honestly i don't quite remember, the installation was too smooth, i recall using NoMachines' - wouldn't quote me on that though
[02:23] <bulmer> ax4 luckky you!
[02:23] <ax4> bulmer, that was after wrestling with vnc for hours upon hours
[02:23] <ax4> bulmer, i paid my dues heh
[02:24] <Pelo> how do I go about getting the fonts in   /home/jean/.fonts  to show up in my font selections dialog for gnome ?
[02:24] <bulmer> ax4 ahh okay
[02:24] <ax4> ok, my eggdrop problem, involving the lack of TCL:
[02:24] <ax4> http://rafb.net/p/tEzsb232.html
[02:25] <ax4> bulmer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX i think got me going
[02:25] <jrib> Pelo: logging out and returning should do it.  Or just run 'fc-cache'
[02:25] <byen> Guys , has anyone installed ubuntu on a preinstalled pc (vista)
[02:26] <Pelo> thanks jrib
[02:26] <evoxy> how do i set the wallpaper?
[02:26] <byen> i am ready to .. but having no os disc and reading posts sayig that vista becomes ub-bootable has been bothering me
[02:26] <jrib> evoxy: right click on the desktop > set desktop background
[02:26] <ax4> bulmer, also for the saveas packages - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:27] <Pelo> what's the default font in windows xp ? tahoma ?
[02:27] <ax4> ms sans serif?
[02:28] <SmileyChris> times new roman? :P
[02:28] <katani> ms sans serif
[02:28] <ax4> bbiab
[02:28] <Chapayev> got a xbuntu screen res issue - cant step down w/o it login out (actually same issue in ubuntu too) 6.0
[02:29] <[NT] > sss
[02:29] <[NT] > sssssss
[02:29] <Sir_HaL> #part
[02:29] <[NT] > lol
[02:30] <Chapayev> NT?
[02:30] <cyris> hey everyone
[02:30] <shaun_> has anyone been able to set up a ntp server successfully?
[02:30] <shaun_> i'mhaving problems with it
[02:31] <Chapayev> so any clue for how to set lower screen res? (dont tell me about the panel)
[02:31] <Squillis> evening
[02:32] <Pelo> Chapayev, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:32] <waxyfresh> xserver randomly restarts for no reason,ive tried threating it but that dosent seem to have any effect...
[02:32] <Squillis> the ubuntu install can't use an ext3 partition created by partition magic for /, says no root filesystem
[02:33] <Squillis> so, i let ubuntu reformat that space, and now partition magic can't open because the partition table is tweaked
[02:33] <waxyfresh> Squillis: what file system are you useing?
[02:33] <Squillis> but both os's work
[02:33] <Squillis> ntfs in windows xp, and ext3 in linux
[02:33] <Supercross> can someone assist me in getting my linksys wusb54gv4 to work with edgy...i have been at it for like 3 hrs and no luck
[02:33] <Chapayev> super - i was messing w/ wifi alot lately
[02:33] <Cod1> sry
[02:33] <Cod1> you get it?
[02:34] <Pelo> Squillis,  if you are booting the live cd, use gparted ( in system > admin) to set it to boot
[02:34] <waxyfresh> Supercross: thats a routr right? type <IP_ADDRESS> into your browser window and see what happens
[02:34] <shaun_> anyone?
[02:34] <waxyfresh> Squillis: no idea
[02:34] <Squillis> pelo, it's the dekstop iso
[02:34] <shaun_> set up ntp server?
[02:34] <Pelo> Supercross,  look up the model number in the forum
[02:34] <Chapayev> i got gprs thru cingular - and a bluetooth link to the [phone
[02:34] <katani> Who was asking about the NTP server?
[02:34] <Supercross> no waxyfresh thats a usb wifi adapter
[02:34] <[NT] > NT NT
[02:34] <Squillis> pelo, also the ext3 partition is in the middle of the drive
[02:34] <dumbdumb> I want to Know if anyone can help me?   I have a laptop hardrive but no laptop, and i want to transfer that data onto a friends regular pc harddrive...is this possible?
[02:35] <Chapayev> super i was trying with a Netgear WG111v2
[02:35] <bleck> hey everyone, can anyone explain what hd0 in grub would be when you have an IDE & PATA drive... so the IDE is HDB, the PATA drive is SDA, would HD0 be the SDA or the HDB?
[02:35] <katani> shaun_ - Have you installed the NTP server packages yet?
[02:35] <shaun_> katani: yeah
[02:35] <Chapayev> but in 6.06 - i saw that wifi shld be easier (drivers wise) in 6.10
[02:35] <Pelo> Squillis,  the position of the partition doesn't matter, get back into partition magic and make it a boot partition then ,  ( but I can't help with that bit )
[02:35] <waxyfresh> Supercross: no idea sorry
[02:35] <dumbdumb> I want to Know if anyone can help me?   I have a laptop hardrive but no laptop, and i want to transfer that data onto a friends regular pc harddrive...is this possible?
[02:36] <katani> sean_ - just a sec...
[02:36] <froyd> do you guys remember where can i enable the root to login into gnome ?
[02:36] <shaun_> katani: okay
[02:36] <wols> dumbdumb: yes it is
[02:36] <Jrabbit> dumbdumb,  yes
[02:36] <dumbdumb> is there a better channel to ask this question?
[02:36] <Squillis> wait, so if i make it bootable in pmagic before i boot the live cd, it will recognize it as a root partition?
[02:36] <waxyfresh> !root
[02:36] <wols> dumbdumb: #hardware
[02:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:36] <funkyHat> dumbdumb, yeah you can get a mini IDE to IDE converter... and just plug it in :)
[02:36] <Jrabbit> dumbdumb, PM me
[02:36] <Pelo> bleck,  I beleive HD0 is the boot hdd selected in the bios,  but you might have better luck asking in #grub
[02:36] <bh_> dumbdumb: either get a special cable, or a usb harddrive thingy
[02:36] <Supercross> I don't get it....it shows a wireless connection, but it never activates....I tried using ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant and nothing looks any different than before
[02:36] <bleck> pelo: thanks, good idea =)
[02:36] <froyd> i rember seein a option to enable the root to login into the gnome ....
[02:37] <wols> bleck: ide IS PATA
[02:37] <Pelo> Squillis,   can you boot the live cd or not ?
[02:37] <waxyfresh> xserver randomly restarts for no reason,ive tried threating it but that dosent seem to have any effect...
[02:37] <funkyHat> froyd, why would you want to do that?
[02:37] <wols> and whatever the BIOS thinks is the first hdd, that is hd0
[02:37] <Squillis> pelo, surely
[02:37] <froyd> a friend of mine wants to know it
[02:37] <AaronfromChina> join #ubuntu_cn
[02:37] <froyd> funkyHat: but there is this option right ? i wouldnt do it
[02:37] <Chapayev>  pelo - how do i edit the x.conf to reset res ?
[02:37] <waxyfresh> froyd: its a very bad idea
[02:37] <Pelo> Squillis,   boot the live cd  , menu > system > admin > gparted,   select the partition you want ,  right click ,  set to boot ( or what ever the option is called)
[02:37] <bleck> wols: meant SATA
[02:37] <Sir_HaL> hello.  I want a remote solution to connect to my ubuntu box (at home) from my work (winxp).  I currently use vnc ("remote desktop") over ssh but not only is it *very* slow, but cannot vnc into the login screen.  any suggestions on what to try?
[02:38] <froyd> waxyfresh: i know its not for me :D
[02:38] <bleck> just woke up :P
[02:38] <Chapayev> super - did u have ndiswrpr 1.38?
[02:38] <wols> bleck: depends on your BIOS
[02:38] <funkyHat> froyd, yes there is an option in the gdm setup utility, if I were you I wouldn't tell your friend though ;-)
[02:38] <wols> whatever is the first harddisk is hd0
[02:38] <Pelo> Chapayev,   you edit it to set the resolution you want available from  menu > system > prefs >screen rez
[02:38] <bleck> wols: so then first bootable HD would be HD0?
[02:38] <Supercross> whatever one comes w/ edgy on the cd
[02:38] <wols> bleck: yes
[02:38] <Chapayev> super - i think u shld make sure to compile the latest ndiswrpr
[02:38] <Pelo> Chapayev,  by default it boots to the highest res available I beleive
[02:38] <bulmer> Sir_HaL: try freeNX and once you got it working share the technique to get it working
[02:38] <bleck> wols: thanks!
[02:38] <froyd> well he says he wants to risk it just cuz he hats copyin files through terminal
[02:39] <katani> sean_ - Have you configured the NTP server config file yet?
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: yeah
[02:39] <funkyHat> froyd, why does he need to be root to copy files?
[02:39] <romeo_> How do you make the trash to be as an icon on your desktop? I made a link to trash:/ and i got the trashcan. Problem is, the icon shows it as if it had something inside it, no matter if its empty or not.. Ay idea how to change that?
[02:39] <Alonea> bash ./ati-driver-installer-<version>.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/edgy ---this is where my install fails. I will get an output as soon as the pastebin site I use starts working again..bah
[02:39] <Supercross> but on the ubuntuhelp.com site it says this card words "out of the box"
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: i just changed one line, to allow the subnet to access it
[02:39] <froyd> funkyHat: gdm setup ? where is it ?
[02:39] <Sir_HaL> thanks, bulmer.  i'll look on the internet right now, but isn't the server for freeNX or the windows package (or something?) not free?
[02:39] <shaun_> katani: i added "broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>"
[02:39] <Chapayev> super - and u believe ?
[02:39] <katani> sean_: OK where are you having problems then. I assume the server is running right now?
[02:39] <waxyfresh> froyd: i think its in the help section onyour computer
[02:39] <froyd> funkyHat: i dont really know what he means  hes just asking me i told him theres a way but its sooo not recommended
[02:40] <bh_> romeo_: start gcon-editor find nautilus under apps, there is an option
[02:40] <bulmer> Sir_HaL: client is free and so as the server
[02:40] <froyd> he wants to know it anyway
[02:40] <waxyfresh> froyd: bad its a horrible idea all teh same
[02:40] <Chapayev> and u shld get the driver from sourceforge too - not the cd
[02:40] <Supercross> i believe its not working
[02:40] <WhiteNoise> how can I indicate I want new user home directories set to 0700 (and not world readable!!?)
[02:40] <Chapayev> excatly - so believe u can make it
[02:40] <Sir_HaL> bulmer, nice!  thx....  <off to surf...>
[02:40] <Supercross> and I have no access to a wired connection and my kernal hangs so often its not funny
[02:40] <shaun_> katani: yeah the server is running, i restarted it, but on the client when i do 'ntpdate <IP_ADDRESS>' it says no suitable server found for syncing
[02:41] <katani> sean_: hmm...
[02:41] <romeo_> bh_: I am new to linux.. What is gcon editor? and what is nautilus? :D
[02:41] <funkyHat> froyd, sounds like a permissions issue with a windows formatted disc, maybe? he should really configure fstab properly rather than use sudo all the while anyway (if that's the issue)
[02:41] <phpnub|away> I'm working on a firewall script and need to set the default route to the same device every time is there a easy way to do that?
[02:41] <funkyHat> froyd, anyway... login screen setup
[02:41] <Chapayev> pelo -= was i clear?
[02:41] <bh_> romeo_: ok. open a terminal. type gconf-editor
[02:41] <Pelo> Chapayev,   pm
[02:42] <sesamebike> WhiteNoise: note sure you might be able to do it with a system wide umask
[02:42] <bh_> romeo_: in the right side there is a list view with apps as the first i think
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > hi, i'm italian
[02:42] <froyd> yah
[02:42] <romeo_> bh_: Command unkown
[02:42] <shaun_> katani: any idea?
[02:42] <froyd> funkyHat: thx dde
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > what's time is it?
[02:42] <Chapayev> anyone have trouble stepping the screen res down - like it logs out on you?
[02:42] <froyd> dude
[02:42] <funkyHat> romeo_, nautilus is the thing that displays folders and the icons on the desktop (file manager) :)
[02:42] <StThomas> how do i know if my linux ubuntu has firewall
[02:42] <robdeman> hey folks. I have a werid problem. I installed Ubuntu 6.06 server LTS. It seems that my machine responds once every whilw ith a slight delay. It happens locally aswell when connected though ssh. Any ideas what could cause the delay? its quite ranond, sometimes teh machine freezes for a few seoncds while entering commands on the commandline...?
[02:42] <romeo_> funkyHat: Ah okey thanks =)
[02:42] <StThomas> or if i have a currently working firewall
[02:42] <[NT] > What is the country?
[02:42] <bh_> romeo_: really are you sure you typed it correctly
[02:42] <Corvo[666] > yeah
[02:43] <bh_> romeo_:  gconf-editor that is
[02:43] <bh_> romeo_: try typing gconf and then press tab twice. What do you see?
[02:43] <romeo_> bh_: $ gconf-editor bash: gconf-editor: command not found
[02:44] <funkyHat> StThomas, if you installed a firewall, you have one. If not you don't, but ubuntu is inherently secure even without a firewall
[02:44] <StThomas> I am trying to run a tagcloud generator using WINE
[02:44] <romeo_> bh_: i see gconf-merge-tree gconf-schemas gconftool gconftool2
[02:44] <bh_> romeo_: ok, donno if this work, but have you tried just dragging the trash icon from the panel to the destkop?
[02:44] <StThomas> i encourter error and one of the possible reason is firewall, tht is why i am asking
[02:44] <Chapayev> funky - doesnt one install from the live cd - i think he wants to know wheres the settings for it?
[02:45] <zen> If I have apci, do I need apm?
[02:45] <romeo_> bh_: Nothing
[02:46] <Alonea> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:46] <StThomas> yes Chapayev do you know where?
[02:46] <katani> sean_: What line did you say you added to your NTP config? "broadcast"
[02:46] <shaun_> katani: yeah 'broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>`
[02:47] <katani> sean_: OK try commenting out that line, and restarting the NTP server.
[02:47] <Moosejaw> anyone have any tips on speeding up torrents with azureus?
[02:47] <ph8> hi all - whenever i upgrade my kernel (edgy stable, latest) - something (apt?) overwrites my grub menu.lst - this wouldn't be that much of a problem if it didn't specify hd(0,0) instead of hd(0,1) - and hence cause a crash on reboot! Does anyone know where i can change this setting?
[02:47] <bulmer> StThomas: what that possible meant is if you had a firewall that maybe blocking ports, find out if any is block by iptables -vL  should be no rules
[02:47] <Alonea> thing is, it installed fine before, but after I messed up and adept got rid of it, I have not been able to reinstall it
[02:47] <bh_> romeo_: ok then type apt-get install gconf-editor in a term.
[02:48] <bh_> romeo_: sorry 'sudo apt-get install gconf-editor'
[02:48] <Chapayev> is there a panel for the firewall settings ??
[02:48] <Chapayev> (with all due respect to the command line)
[02:49] <bh_> romeo_: or use synaptic to find and install gconf-editor
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> !firestarter | Chapayev
[02:49] <ubotu> Chapayev: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[02:49] <shaun_> katani: okay it says that it found the server and ther eis a pretty big offset, then it says no server suitable for sync found
[02:49] <rmd> so... if i have a dvd... and i make an .iso of that dvd to store on my computer... and then i loopmount that... should it play in VLC or mplayer?
[02:49] <shark-1> what engine would be a good gtk engine to theme for?
[02:49] <Rynoo> how do I install KDE on ubuntu? sudo apt-get install kde ??
[02:49] <shaun_> katani: that was with `ntpdate -q <IP_ADDRESS>`
[02:49] <rmd> Rynoo, "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[02:49] <romeo_> bh_: Ok i am now in gconf-editor
[02:49] <jetscreamer> Rynoo: that would probably give you a bloated install, try rmd's first
[02:50] <bh_> romeo_: ok find apps and then nautilus
[02:50] <romeo_> bh_ Ok found it
[02:50] <katani> shaun_: have you synced the server clock with another NTP server?
[02:50] <Rynoo> I've tried that
[02:50] <eighta> greetings everyone!!!
[02:50] <bh_> romeo_: under desktiop there is an option to enable trash on desktop
[02:50] <Rynoo> couldn't get gdm nor kdm started
[02:50] <eighta> i need Help!!
[02:51] <bh_> romeo_: it's trash_icon_visible
[02:51] <eighta> how can put a mirror of ubuntu in my LAN???
[02:51] <SongOfTheWeave> just go to System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[02:51] <romeo_> bh_: Ok, ticked it..
[02:51] <noodles12> in vmplayer, How do i set-up the networking in the .vmx file so that the guest OS will have the same identity as the host OS ?
[02:51] <SongOfTheWeave> It's easier to browse the packages than at the command line
[02:51] <bh_> romeo_: should show on the desktop now
[02:52] <shaun_> katani: same error even after i sync the server
[02:52] <Dougie> ts
[02:52] <jetscreamer> !mirror
[02:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[02:53] <romeo_> bh_: Hmm it doesn't .. Is nautlius only for gnome looks? I am use KDE..
[02:53] <katani> shaun_: hmmmm... I wish i wasn't stuck on a Windows box right now, I'd try to set up an NTP server myself to see how its done.
[02:53] <Mirth> Anyone know of a good image mounting program??
[02:53] <addams> If I install apache and run it without doing any configuring, am I open to attack?
[02:53] <Mirth> for ISO's and stuff?
[02:53] <bh_> romeo_: yes its for gnome.
[02:53] <jetscreamer> mount
[02:53] <shaun_> katani: :/
[02:54] <bh_> romeo_: dunno about kde, sorry
[02:54] <bimberi> !mountiso | Mirth
[02:54] <ubotu> Mirth: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[02:54] <Madpilot> addams, not really, apache is pretty locked down by default
[02:54] <katani> shaun_: I'm afraid I can't help you much more, my linux box is messed up right now. Sorry :(
[02:54] <shaun_> katani: thats cool
[02:54] <romeo_> bh_: Ah okey. Oh well thanks anyway
[02:54] <bh_> romeo_: perhaps try the #kubuntu channel?
[02:55] <eimajenthat> is their a channel for the listen media player?
[02:55] <romeo_> bh_: I will thanks
[02:55] <shaun_> katani: if you do find out msg me, i'm always on freenode under the name "keram"
[02:55] <cwmajors> I have an Athlon 64 3500+ with dual nvidia 6600 video cards in sli mode. The Feisty Herd 5 disk will get me to a terminal prompt. How do I start gnome from there?
[02:55] <bradj> Hrm, I'm not fond of x-chat :/
[02:56] <bh_> bradj: then try xchat :)
[02:56] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: startx maybe
[02:56] <eimajenthat> bradj: what do you use?
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: You likely need to get the kernel module for your video card
[02:56] <bradj> Normally I use plain mIRC
[02:56] <bradj> on windows
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: yeah try startx first that will be diagnostic
[02:56] <Alboyta> f
[02:56] <Alboyta> fda
[02:56] <Alboyta> fdsa
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdfa
[02:56] <Alboyta> dfs
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fds
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> sdf
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <Alboyta> fsd
[02:56] <SongOfTheWeave> Any mods around?
[02:56] <Alboyta> fd
[02:56] <cwmajors> thank you. Trying startx now.
[02:57] <Alboyta> df
[02:57] <Alboyta> sdfsdfdf
[02:57] <Alboyta> dfd
[02:57] <Alboyta> df
[02:57] <eilker> !ops
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild or Amaranth
[02:57] <Alonea> really. mods, ban please!
[02:57] <bh_> bradj: I meant xchat-gnome
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <cafuego_> !ops
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <Alboyta> f
[02:57] <bradj> bh-, Yea that's what I'm using
[02:57] <nomasteryoda> thanks
[02:57] <Alonea> arigatou~
[02:57] <bh_> bradj: ahh, ok. Then what about xchat...
[02:57] <jetscreamer> try just regular xchat i didn't like xchat-gnome either
[02:57] <SongOfTheWeave> I'm using xchat-gnome right now, hadn't used it before, it's setup different than I'm used to, but it's pretty customizable
[02:58] <bradj> Idk, what about it?  Is there a big difference b/w xchat-gnome and xchat?
[02:58] <Alonea> ok, I was trying to fix something else and anyways, adept removed fglrx...and now i can't get it back. I did sudo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-kernel fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) and some other things to try to completely remove it, but I still can't get it to reinstall now. I get this now http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11592/
[02:58] <cwmajors> It tells me that the server is already active for display 0.
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> not imo
[02:58] <bradj> xchat-gnome seems very limited :/
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> ime that is
[02:58] <Madpilot> bradj, xchat is usable, xchat-gnome is crippled
[02:58] <shark-1> what engine would be a good gtk engine to theme for?
[02:58] <bradj> BAH!
[02:58] <tech13> Is there a website that lists which hardware uses which kernel options?  I would like to compile my own kernel and trim down the drivers I don't use and I'm not sure which ones I actually do use.   ("lspci" doesn't show names that match items in "make menuconfig")
[02:58] <bh_> bradj: xchat has more feature I would say
[02:58] <bradj> How do I get just normal xchat?
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> Heh yeah, I agree.
[02:58] <rmd> If I make an .iso from a movie on dvd, can i mount it and view it under ubuntu?
[02:58] <jetscreamer> shark-1: i'm not sure but i don't think you understand the question
[02:58] <SongOfTheWeave> xchat-gnome seems good enough for my purposes atm however
[02:58] <jetscreamer> yes rmd
[02:58] <nomasteryoda> bradj, apt-get install xchat
[02:59] <bradj> How do you unistall apps?
[02:59] <jetscreamer> rmd some players you don't even need to mount it
[02:59] <Moosejaw> how do i remove an item from one of the menus?  i went into edit menu, and it doesnt give me the remove option
[02:59] <LjL> bradj: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[02:59] <rmd> jetscreamer, so all i have to do is mkisofs?
[02:59] <bradj> thanks LjL
[02:59] <shark-1> jetscreamer, ? i dont get what your saying
[02:59] <bradj> brb :P
[02:59] <crdlb> Moosejaw, does it let you uncheck it?
[02:59] <Moosejaw> nope
[02:59] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: Uncheck the box next to the item and it won't show in the menus
[02:59] <jetscreamer> dd if=/dev/dvd of=movie.iso unless it uses css or other encryption
[03:00] <mwalling_> what does the ubuntu logo mean in synaptic? i noticed that xchat-gnome has it, but xchat does not
[03:00] <Moosejaw> i see the check but it doesnt remove the check
[03:00] <cwmajors> Someone mentioned above that I need to get the kernel module for my video card (Nvidia 6600). Where can I find that? Also, startx tells me that "Server is already active for display 0."
[03:00] <rmd> jetscreamer, what if it uses css?
[03:00] <kazuka> hi
[03:00] <nomasteryoda> mwalling_, ubuntu packages
[03:00] <bh_> mwalling_: means it's an official ubuntu package
[03:00] <jetscreamer> rmd mencoder or others work with libdvdcss
[03:00] <bh_> mwalling_: i.e. supported
[03:00] <rmd> jetscreamer, thanks loads.  you're awesome
[03:00] <mwalling_> aah
[03:00] <bradj> wow this is a lot better
[03:00] <mwalling_> thankyou
[03:00] <jetscreamer> #mplayer
[03:00] <bradj> I think...
[03:00] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: goto repositories in synaptic and check universe and multiverse repositories
[03:00] <kazuka> anyone using plasma display for monitor here? I want to know if i can connect my PCI DVI CARD TO HDMI INPUT?
[03:01] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: Did you click on the checkmark itself?
[03:01] <Moosejaw> yes
[03:01] <noodles12> Is there a good reason why putting things in the fat32 partition from Ubuntu. XP takes at least a restart or two to be able to see it?
[03:01] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: then look for hmm.. whats it called... oh are you running feisty?
[03:01] <jetscreamer> xp shouldn't
[03:01] <cwmajors> Song: This is an installation problem. I'm trying to run off the live CD, and can't get to a GUI.
[03:01] <ardchoille> Moosejaw: The items in the menus are parsed from the items in /usr/share/applications. You can remove items from that folder and it will remove the item totally.
[03:01] <kazuka> anyone using plasma display for monitor here? I want to know if i can connect my PCI DVI CARD TO HDMI INPUT?
[03:01] <SongOfTheWeave> First try hitting ctrl+alt+F7
[03:01] <Moosejaw> thanks
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Yes, Feisty herd 5.
[03:02] <nomasteryoda> jetscreamer, if fat32 is not umounted properly, xp will barf and say the drive needs to be scanned ... in order to do that it has to rboot
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Black screen after ctrl-alt-f7.
[03:02] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Wait, are you running the live CD right now and can't get a GUI?
[03:02] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: try /etc/init.d/gdm stop or something like that
[03:02] <cwmajors> Song: Yes. I am talking to you from a different computer. :)
[03:02] <noodles12> nomasteryoda: The thing is that XP can read the fat32 partition and all the contents except for the new files that i recently copied over.
[03:02] <Moosejaw> that worked
[03:03] <Moosejaw> thank you
[03:03] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Do you have more than one monitor connected to the pc with the problem?
[03:03] <Moosejaw> now...can anyone recommend a good bittorrent client other than azureus?
[03:03] <noodles12> ktorrent or utorrent?
[03:03] <jetscreamer> rtorrent...
[03:03] <Moosejaw> do they all work well with ubuntu?
[03:04] <jetscreamer> i don't know that utorrent does
[03:04] <rmd> utorrent under wine isn't bad
[03:04] <jetscreamer> ah wine
[03:04] <rmd> deluge is nice
[03:04] <cwmajors> Song: No, but the computer with the problem has dual nvidia 6600's running in sli mode.
[03:04] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search torrent
[03:04] <bradj> Much better ^^
[03:04] <crdlb> rtorrent is the fastest and lightest client on linux
[03:04] <Moosejaw> cool
[03:04] <Moosejaw> thanks crdls
[03:04] <Moosejaw> b
[03:05] <crdlb> but it's terminal based
[03:05] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Feisty had a feature that I found worked for my 7600 that was a super easy way to get the restricted modules I needed for the nvidia cards but I'm not sure how to access it from the command line
[03:05] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: if you run ps aux do you see any gdm/xdg/x11 stuff going on?
[03:05] <cwmajors> Song: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start returns [fail]  instead of [ OK ] .
[03:06] <misfit_to1> not to start a flame, but which is better on Edgy EFT, compiz or beryl? with nvidia.
[03:06] <jetscreamer> stop
[03:06] <jetscreamer> x is running
[03:06] <zynergi> i updated the ram on my RC410L/800-M (V2.0).. now whenever i boot the pc up using onboard or pci-card vga i get no display..if i remove the mobo's battery for a minute, and remount it.., a display comes on when i boot the computer..bios tells me to set time/date, i do.. and i exit... then i loose display again
[03:06] <ravi_master> how is everyone?
[03:06] <bh_> misfit_to1: try both...
[03:06] <wols> zynergi: your BIOS probelms have nothing to do with ubuntu
[03:06] <wols> but what you need to do is set BIOS to init PCI display first
[03:06] <romeo_> Is it safe and is it possible to erase all the things in my cache? and how do i do it? It takes loads of hdd space
[03:06] <cyris> ravi_master: ah im doing alright, hows about you?
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> hm
[03:07] <wols> romeo_: apt-gte clean
[03:07] <misfit_toy> bh_: I have compiz running and it's fine but there seems to be more theming for beryl...is there a speed difference that you are aware of? as in cpu sucking etc...
[03:07] <bh_> misfit_toy: beryl has more features, and compiz is more bugfree according to some people.
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> misfit_tol: I prefer beryl
[03:07] <cwmajors> Song: I see several gnome-related lines, but nothing specifically saying gdm/xdg/x11.
[03:07] <ravi_master> misfit_toy: use beryl
[03:07] <misfit_toy> hm, the same choice, candy or stability, as usual! lol
[03:07] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: oh yeah it won't, i meant any of those sorry.
[03:08] <bh_> misfit_toy: no not really. I tried both but sort of preffered compiz.
[03:08] <Moosejaw> rtorrent looks a little tricky for me
[03:08] <ravi_master> misfit_toy: stability about same on compiz and beryl, no biggie
[03:08] <Moosejaw> not quite as easy as a gui
[03:08] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: it sounds like it failed to completely start but left components running...
[03:08] <misfit_toy> bh, I seem to have an issue with any theme in compiz though, is it truly themable?
[03:08] <cwmajors> Jetscreamer: I did stop, it succeeded. Then I tried start, and it failed.
[03:08] <romeo_> wols: What is apt-get clean?
[03:08] <wols> man apt-get
[03:08] <michael117> How can I view commands that have entered to the computer by programs?
[03:08] <ardchoille> clean clears out the local repository of retrieved package files
[03:08] <bh_> misfit_toy: both have clitshes, and I preffered those in compiz...
[03:08] <michael117> what logs?
[03:09] <SongOfTheWeave> misfit_toy: I've never used compiz but beryl has been very very easy for me to install and I've had maybe 1 problem with it in the time I've been running it
[03:09] <bh_> misfit_toy: what window decorator are you using
[03:09] <michael117> misfit_toy: Beryl is the spinoff of compiz and compiz is more stable, but beryl is pretty stable by itself and has many more features and effects
[03:09] <bh_> misfit_toy: if you use gwd any metacity theme should work
[03:09] <cwmajors> Would it be safe to assume that the SLI setup is confusing the liveCD? If so, do I have an option for installing Ubuntu on this computer while keeping the hardware as-is?
[03:10] <jetscreamer> cwmajors: grep EE /var/log/X*.0.log
[03:10] <ravi_master> anyone absolutely know how to configure an ati 9200, I mean absolutely.
[03:10] <zyth> ravi_master, opensource radeon driver
[03:10] <jetscreamer> and check the xorg docs to see if the nv module supports your card(s)
[03:10] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: its possible, did you try simply plugging your monitor into the other vid card? I'm not too familiar with how SLI setups work
[03:10] <misfit_toy> bh_ hm, I guess that is where I'm going wrong, not sure how to install a "window decorator", I'm just going to my system/themes
[03:10] <michael117> ravi_master: I have a radeon 9800 pro... go ahead and ask and we'll see if we can help
[03:10] <ravi_master> zyth: can you run beryl on open source though?
[03:10] <crdlb> ravi_master, you shouldn't have to do anything
[03:11] <SongOfTheWeave> jetscreamer:  he's trying to use the live CD, not even at an install yet as I understand
[03:11] <bruenig> ravi_master, if you have intel graphics card
[03:11] <zyth> ravi_master, yes, the oss driver supports aiglx.
[03:11] <bh_> misfit_toy: which compiz package are you using?
[03:11] <jetscreamer> o ok nm
[03:11] <cwmajors> Pertinent line: (EE)AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
[03:11] <ravi_master> got a guide for aiglx+beryl+ati 9200 ?
[03:11] <misfit_toy> bh_ no idea actually
[03:11] <michael117> How can I view the log of commands entered to the system by applications?
[03:11] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: just to be positive, this is the live CD you're unable to boot into gnome with?
[03:12] <zyth> ravi_master, I think beryl's wiki has it
[03:12] <zynergi> wols
[03:12] <ravi_master> got a guide for aiglx+beryl+ati 9200+open source?*
[03:12] <cwmajors> Correct. LiveCD for Feisty herd 5.
[03:12] <zynergi> there is no way to do that in my bios
[03:12] <zynergi> that i know of
[03:12] <shmeelAway> hey, how does ubuntu handle external montiros if i'm using a laptop?
[03:12] <ravi_master> zyth, ok I'll check there, anyone else got a direct link?
[03:12] <cwmajors> This same CD installed successfully onto my laptop, so I know it's good.
[03:12] <bh_> misfit_toy: what does apt-cache show compiz say? should tell you which version you have installed
[03:12] <SongOfTheWeave> Hey anybody know a live CD boot option that works with 2 SLI-ed vid cards?
[03:12] <macpo3> Hi, am I right in thinking that pump / pumpd and dhcp-client / dhclient are probably both tryuing to carry out the same function, and I don'yt need them both?
[03:12] <michael117> How can I view the log of commands entered to the system by applications?
[03:12] <eV64> !sli
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <bh_> !lvm
[03:13] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[03:13] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: I had to boot the live CD with the noapic nolapic options but thats unrelated to your issue
[03:13] <bh_> shmeelAway: what do you mean by handle. It works... but...
[03:14] <michael117> !logs
[03:14] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:14] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: try checking the help (F1 or something) at the lilo prompt when you first boot from the live cd
[03:14] <misfit_toy> bh_: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3 - compiz-core (0 (null)) compiz-plugins (2 0.2) compiz-gnome (0 (null)) cgwd (2 0.59)
[03:14] <SongOfTheWeave> it may give an option that addresses your situation
[03:14] <shmeelAway> bh_ if i just plug my external monitor into my laptop through VGA, will ubuntu automatically configure resolution and use that monitor?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> then just hit F6 and type that option at the end of the text that appears
[03:15] <cwmajors> This box has a total of 4 DVI outputs. I'm going to try booting with the monitor connected to each one.
[03:15] <bh_> misfit_toy: ahh. That's a pretty old package. You said you're on edgy right?
[03:15] <misfit_toy> bh_ yes
[03:15] <Chapayev__> anyone have trouble adjussting screen res down ?? - like it logs off ?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> wow, what kinda box is that?? heh
[03:15] <bh_> shmeelAway: no probably not. What's you're graphic card?
[03:15] <SongOfTheWeave> cwmajors: Try checking the boot opitons while you're there
[03:15] <cwmajors> SongOfTheWeave: Will do. Two cards, two DVI outs each. :)
[03:15] <ravi_master> ok, no luck finding an ati open source driver guide with aiglx on beryl site
[03:15] <Geoffrey2> I recently installed sun java 6 and removed version 5, however Firefox still shows plugins present for BOTH versions....I could use some help trying to find whatever file still needs to be purged
[03:16] <shmeelAway> nvidia geforce 7400 i think bh_
[03:16] <Chapayev__> i know i have to edit some .conf - but that only changes the ooptions in the panel right ?
[03:16] <michael117> How can I find out what command is associated with a program performing a function?
[03:16] <bh_> misfit_toy: if you wan't to investigate you can go to www.go-compiz.org or www.beryl-project.org for further info
[03:16] <ravi_master> zyth, I can't find instructions on how to get aiglx going on the open source drivers though
[03:16] <bh_> misfit_toy: should give you details of both compiz and beryl
[03:17] <misfit_toy> bh_ ok, I will, don't need any hand holding, I thought there might be a newer repo or something, thanks for the suggestions!
[03:17] <michael117> ravi_master: yeah... don't, just do fglrx and xgl
[03:17] <bh_> misfit_toy: and how to get the latest packages for edgy. But be prepared for some tinkering...
[03:17] <misfit_toy> bh_ sure thing, always is!
[03:17] <misfit_toy> thanks
[03:17] <ravi_master> michael117, not as straight-forward as it seems, I got errors after I configured everythiing, XGL couldn't find any screens to render in
[03:18] <michael117> ravi_master: the open source driver doesn't support 3d rendering and so if anything, it will do software rendering which sucks and is slow
[03:18] <SongOfTheWeave> Anyone here familiar with SDL? I just ran into a problem when I installed the ia32 libs (running feisty x86_64) where all my audio ceases to work.
[03:18] <addams> If you have apache running as a test server, should you turn it off when you're done for security?
[03:18] <SongOfTheWeave> my soundcards still appear when I run aplay -l, but I have no sound
[03:18] <michael117> ravi_master: well, first thing you need to do is just make sure you get the fglrx driver working correctly
[03:18] <ravi_master> michael117, I just heard ati open source does aiglx well
[03:18] <romeo_> How do you see what PCI slots you got running?
[03:19] <bh_> misfit_toy: didn't mean to "lecture". It's just that the newer versions are much better.
[03:19] <GrubMan> Want to install edgy in my pc.. i have Ubuntu also.. but want another seprate copy of edgy but there is problem with my partition i have 6gb space in my Ubuntu partion so how can i resize my partition? and If i Resize my Ubuntu partition so after install edgy. my Ubuntu-dapper works fine too?
[03:19] <michael117> ravi_master: Yeah... software rendering...
[03:19] <ravi_master> michael117, how can I test my drivers, fglrxinfo looks fine, everythings fine but Xgl fails
[03:19] <michael117> ravi_master: Because ATI's such a bitch to us linux folks, we must use the XGL hack without any native aiglx support
[03:19] <bh_> shmeelAway: have you installed nvidia settings?
[03:20] <katani> Stay away from ATI cards if possible
[03:20] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:20] <katani> jigdo?
[03:20] <michael117> ravi_master: Make sure you have it installed and changed from 'Driver "ati"' to 'Driver "fglrx"' then test out with glxgears in terminal
[03:20] <Orfeous> searching for some hints why my system is feeling so slow. i have changed from ATI to Nvidia graphic card so it is not the ATI-drivers :D
[03:20] <Moosejaw> anyone have a good recommendation for a bittorrent client?
[03:20] <shmeelAway> bh_ i have nVidia-glx drivers, and X server settings
[03:20] <ravi_master> of course, I already did that, gears looks fine
[03:21] <Orfeous> my processor load is quite high if i run a program..
[03:21] <katani> Moosejaw: Are you running Gnome, or KDE?
[03:21] <Moosejaw> gnome
[03:21] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:21] <GrubMan> dumbdumb: maybe with Virtual System?
[03:21] <ravi_master> michael117: of course, I already did that, any other suggestions?
[03:21] <Chapayev__> i just switched to xbuntu hoping for more speed - but it actually seems slower than the reg. drake
[03:22] <michael117> ravi_master: And you have direct rendering: yes in the glxinfo screen?
[03:22] <PinkFloyd> !vnc
[03:22] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:22] <katani> Moosejaw: Oh. Ktorrent seems to be pretty good. KDE-based though
[03:22] <dumbdumb> GrubMan: naw, doesnt ring a bell
[03:22] <ravi_master> michael117: yep
[03:22] <katani> Moosejaw: you could also try Azureus
[03:22] <bh_> shmeelAway: there is an app called nvidia-settings which have some options for enabling external monitors. I still think it requires some configuration in xorg.conf. And I doubt it will work as well as in windows with respect to hotplugging the monitor.
[03:22] <GrubMan> I Want to install edgy in my pc.. i have Ubuntu also.. but want another seprate copy of edgy but there is problem with my partition i have 6gb space in my Ubuntu partion so how can i resize my partition? and If i Resize my Ubuntu partition so after install edgy. my Ubuntu-dapper works fine too?
[03:22] <Viscid> Okay this is killing me
[03:23] <michael117> ravi_master: I know it seemes tedious and live you've done all the correct steps, but it's just kind of a procedure you must follow and look over to be sure and you are frustrated because you've gone through a lot of it
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: thats pretty wierd, my laptop will barely run Gnome, but runs perfectly with Xfce.
[03:23] <Moosejaw> i just got rid of azureus
[03:23] <shmeelAway> bh_ what's hotplugging the monitor?
[03:23] <Moosejaw> i may try deluge
[03:23] <dumbdumb> anybody know the name of a windows/dos progam that automates installing ubuntu without a cdrom?  i've done it before but i forget what its called
[03:23] <ravi_master> michael117: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11594/
[03:23] <katani> Moosejaw: Azureus was giving you problems?
[03:23] <bh_> shmeelAway: connecting and disconnecting without rebooting
[03:23] <Chapayev__> indy - the Xfce is crawling !?
[03:24] <katani> Dumbdumb: was it jigdo?
[03:24] <shmeelAway> bh_ so you suggest just connecting the monitor after booting up?
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: no, Xfce runs perfectly.
[03:24] <Moosejaw> katani: I think so...i just want to try something new
[03:24] <Viscid> I'm trying to install Feisty Fawn on my laptop. Ever since Edgy Eft, I've not been able to install an ubuntu release. Whenever it tries to install, it just reboots. It gets as far as the end of 'squashfs,' so I assume it's starting the graphical interface or whatever, but it just reboots my laptop. I've looked through all the support forums and have come up short. Any suggestions?
[03:24] <dumbdumb> katani: maybe
[03:24] <bh_> shmeelAway: no before.
[03:24] <michael117> ravi_master: Could you paste your xorg.conf as well?
[03:24] <ravi_master> michael117: sure
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> Chapayev__: I've also put it on a 600mhz Pentium that I have, and again, works great.
[03:24] <shmeelAway> bh_ ok