[00:01] <roger___> !skype
[00:01] <fartboner> !nvidia
[00:03] <roger___> maco: ping
[00:03] <maco> roger___: pong
[00:04] <fartboner> James147: still here?
[00:04] <roger___> maco: knowanything about Microphones?
[00:04] <James147> fartboner: yup
[00:04] <fartboner> James147: i can't login now
[00:04] <maco> i know mine doesnt work and wont work til i get around to reading the azalia hardware spec and fixing the driver
[00:04] <roger___> ouch
[00:04] <roger___> ok
[00:04] <James147> fartboner: hmm,
[00:05] <roger___> Where would be a good place to find out about Mic issues?
[00:05] <fartboner> James147: like, it shows me the login screen, which is more than what it used to, but now i can't login without getting thrown back to the login screen
[00:06] <James147> fartboner: can you try loggin in with a new user (you can use adduser command to create a new user "man adduser" for more info) this will show if its a config problem or osmething worst
[00:06] <fartboner> James147: okay, i'll try that
[00:06] <roger___> maco: how far away is the Sound options in KDE from Alsa?
[00:07] <fartboner> James147: hold on, upon switching to tty1 i see an error: [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: GPU lockup - switching to software fbcon
[00:08] <James147> fartboner: hmm
[00:08] <kate> k
[00:08] <maco> roger___: kmix, if you view the full mixer, should match
[00:09] <roger___> maco: ah that's another issue kmix has dissappeared and won't open
[00:09] <maco> interesting...
[00:09] <kate> :0)
[00:09] <fartboner> James147: anyway, added another user and still no dice, same issue
[00:10] <roger___> can't get the applet and can't get it to open from the terminal
[00:14] <maco> roger___: does it give an error when you try typing in kmix in the terminal?
[00:15] <roger___> kate: can you see if maco can help you get kmix working?
[00:16] <kate> ok
[00:16] <roger___> maco: kate has the microphone and kmix issue
[00:16] <maco> ok
[00:17] <James147> fartboner: never seen that error before and cant find much help on it sorry :( I found this: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=234245 which should get you back to a gui (although on vesa drivers) from there you might beabl to use jockey-kde to install the nvidia drivers again
[00:18] <fartboner> James147: okay, i just hope that fedora and kubuntu have that solution in common
[00:18] <James147> fartboner: if they use grub2 it should be fine :)
[00:18] <roger___> kate: open terminal and type kmix and tell maco if it says anything
[00:19] <maco> roger___: she's talkingto me in pm
[00:19] <roger___> maco: Ah brilliant :)
[00:19] <roger___> thanks
[00:19] <fartboner> James147: well, how might i access the boot options? grub doesn't really give me a chance
[00:19] <James147> e
[00:20] <James147> fartboner: "e"
[00:20] <fartboner> okay
[00:21] <James147> fartboner: then "b" to boot after you have added that line to the end
[00:22] <fartboner> James147: i continuously tapped e while booting but it still booted to the login screen
[00:22] <James147> fartboner: press esc if the grub prompt is hidden
[00:22] <fartboner> James147: i'll try that
[00:22] <James147> fartboner: select the kernel version you want to boot and press e
[00:25] <fartboner> James147: doesn't do anything, just returns to login screen after booting; i might not be using grub? i installed via text installation with LVM
[00:25] <James147> fartboner: and you can still not login?
[00:25] <fartboner> nope
[00:25] <fartboner> James147: nope*
[00:26] <James147> fartboner: and it still dosent work with a the new user?
[00:26] <fartboner> James147: i can't get around to changing the boot options
[00:27] <James147> fartboner: you should be using grub :S all kubuntu installs I know of do
[00:28] <fartboner> James147: i just don't get an option or prompt. i get "error: no disk" then it tries to boot into kubuntu
[00:29] <James147> fartboner: :S
[00:29] <fartboner> James147: i might just have to reinstall and do it the right way; damn updates take so long though!
[00:30] <James147> fartboner: not sure what to do... you could try reinstalling the nvidia drivers again see if that helps :( but a reinstll might be easier
[00:30] <fartboner> James147: if i could, i would. i don't have wifi in my terminal so i can't apt-get anything
[00:33] <James147> fartboner: do you not still have the nvidia installer?
[00:36] <fartboner> James147: yeah i do, i thought you meant installing it via apt-get install nvidia-current; im reinstalling now
[00:43] <jcgs> fartboner: have you tried the 'recovery mode' option in the grub menu?
[00:44] <James147> jcgs: think that will take you to a commandline prompt, which he has access to
[00:44]  * James147 goes off to see the recover mode options
[00:45] <fartboner> James147: okay, after reinstallign the drivers and editing my xorg.conf to have fbdev instead of the nvidia driver selected, i'm able to login, but no closer to getting the drivers operational
[00:46] <James147> fartboner: now try installing nvidia-current (or using jockey-kde)
[00:46] <fartboner> James147: with the binaries still installed?
[00:47] <James147> fartboner: worth a shot :S
[00:47] <fartboner> James147: okay, lets try that
[00:47] <James147> fartboner: or try uninstalling nvidia again but leaving xorg :S
[00:47] <James147> xorg.conf ^^
[00:48] <fartboner> James147: thats what i did originally, then deleted it after it didn't work
[00:48] <fartboner> James147: but anywho, where is jockey again?
[00:48] <James147> fartboner: btw, why fbdev, not hear of that?
[00:48] <fartboner> James147: it's what works, i dunno
[00:49] <James147> fartboner: "hardware drivers" it is called (i tend to alt+f2 > type: jockey-kde)
[00:49] <fartboner> ah okay
[00:49] <fartboner> James147: yeah, i found it thanks
[00:56] <BluesKaj> that's some nick , must be all of 13yrs old, to think that's funny
[01:02] <aguja85> how do you enable 3d desktop effects?
[01:04] <James147> aguja85: generally; system settings > desktop effects... but as for '3d effect' that might depends on what video driver you are using
[01:04] <aguja85> James147: iḿ using nvidia propietary driver
[01:04] <James147> aguja85: then you sould be able to use 3d effects
[01:05] <aguja85> James147: yes, but where is the option
[01:06] <James147> aguja85: generally; system settings > desktop effects..
[01:08] <aguja85> James147: thanks
[01:15] <fartboner> James147: everything is in order, thanks man
[01:15] <fartboner> James147: i had to edit my xorg.conf for my laptop specific stuff, like a custom edid and the usedisplaydevice option
[01:16] <fartboner> James147: hitting the shower and headed to the movies. thanks again bromigo
[01:43] <jschall> anyone using kubuntu on an ASUS eee 1001p-mu17?
[01:46] <cato37> i changed a lot of the management permisions trying to get the system to see cd's yesterday. what are the default  'privileges and groups' settings in the advanced system settings of the 'user management' tool?
[01:47] <aguja85> what is the default path where the jdk installs?
[01:49] <LnxPrplxd> Few questions from a noob here: after putting in my username password, why do I get an additional sudp password prompt box?
[01:56] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: where does this happen?
[01:57] <LnxPrplxd> on boot you get a username and password box - then you enter that and another pops up labeled sudopassword box or something
[01:58] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: what user are you logging in as?
[01:59] <LnxPrplxd> my normal username
[01:59] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: have you set something to start that needs sudo ?
[01:59] <LnxPrplxd> well not that I know - fresh install 1 day old - booted twice
[02:00] <LnxPrplxd> does it do this by default
[02:00] <LnxPrplxd> all I installed was poprietary drivers for video?
[02:00] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: did you do the cd check before installing?
[02:01] <LnxPrplxd> only verified burn, did not do actual verify under installer
[02:02] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: you could check who owns your home folder with   ls -lh   in a terminal
[02:03] <LnxPrplxd> It looks like I am the correct user
[02:03] <LnxPrplxd> lets move to next issue, Whats with this KDE Wallet bothering me for passwords
[02:04] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: set it's password to blank/nothing then
[02:05] <LnxPrplxd> does not accept no password
[02:06] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: it's never done that here...
[02:06] <LnxPrplxd> I licked on my user account in system and it would not let me use a blank pasword
[02:06] <LnxPrplxd> are you on the latest version
[02:07] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: there's a config for kwallet
[02:08] <LnxPrplxd> is Kwallet advisable - I thought secure computing means not storing your paswords on the machine
[02:09] <well_laid_lawn> LnxPrplxd: they're not stored in plain text - it is your choice to use it or not
[02:09] <LnxPrplxd> ok maybe I should disable it for now, how do do that
[02:09] <James147> LnxPrplxd: its 'more' secure to not store password on your mechine... even more secure to not store you pasword at all.. and even more secure to use 20 character long randomly generated password :) at some point you have to give up on security for convienence
[02:10] <James147> LnxPrplxd: kwallet is more secure then using the same password for every service
[02:10] <LnxPrplxd> agreed - I dont store them and I dont use the same - but I have to admit I am not using 20 characters
[02:10] <LnxPrplxd> what can ya do
[02:10] <LnxPrplxd> so far I am loving the interface over gnome - I am very new to KDE and also new to linux
[02:11] <James147> LnxPrplxd: Welcome, and hope you enjoy the stay :)
[02:11] <LnxPrplxd> I loaded the Nvidia driver and my fonts all look different - like not smoothed - whats that all about - sizing seems different vs default driver
[02:11] <James147> LnxPrplxd: loaded the driver from where?
[02:12] <LnxPrplxd> well from whereever it offered it from
[02:12] <James147> LnxPrplxd: kubuntu advised you to install it? (probally though jockey-kde then)
[02:13] <LnxPrplxd> well - let me go and find where and how I loaded it
[02:13] <LnxPrplxd> I seem to have windows transparency now - but things look different
[02:14] <James147> LnxPrplxd: you can try configuring the fonts in System settings > Appearance > Fonts
[02:14] <LnxPrplxd> Looks like I loaded driver version 195.36.24
[02:15] <James147> LnxPrplxd: sounds about right :) not noticed that version screw up fonts though :S
[02:15] <cato37> is there a good program that isolates duplicate files in order to erase the duplicates?
[02:16] <LnxPrplxd> is there a quick way I can show you two screenshots?
[02:16] <LnxPrplxd> to compare
[02:16] <James147> cato37: can only think of kleansweep even though thats a kde 3.4.x program :(
[02:16] <James147> !pastebin
[02:16] <cato37> James147: k.
[02:21] <LnxPrplxd> BOOT FROM LIVE CD LOOK - before drivers - http://imagebin.org/105214
[02:22] <LnxPrplxd> http://imagebin.org/105215 - after drivers - note how thin the fonts looks -
[02:23] <James147> LnxPrplxd: System settings > apperance > Fonts   you can enable sub pixel hinting there
[02:24] <LnxPrplxd> I dont see that option there
[02:24] <LnxPrplxd> force fonts dip or use anti aliasing
[02:25] <James147> LnxPrplxd: anti aliasing
[02:25] <LnxPrplxd> thats what I thought - enabling that now and opening a new program to see the change
[02:27] <LnxPrplxd> darn - still nothing
[02:28] <James147> :S
[02:34] <LnxPrplxd> I thin kI found it
[02:34] <James147> Where?
[02:36] <LnxPrplxd> Well there was an options box or similar and in thre was subpixel
[02:37] <LnxPrplxd> but that still is not it - the live cd fonts were nice and thick
[02:37] <LnxPrplxd> strange
[02:38] <LnxPrplxd> Use anti alising=enabled and then configure within that
[02:40] <LnxPrplxd> What should my general font be
[02:42] <James147> LnxPrplxd: I have Fonts > General: "Sans Serif 9"
[02:43] <James147> LnxPrplxd: but feel free to change them to what looks best for you
[02:43] <LnxPrplxd> yes I understand - but all I want is how it looked when I ran the live cd and or before I loaded the driver I dont get it
[02:44] <LnxPrplxd> why would loading a driver change the look of the fonts?
[02:44] <James147> LnxPrplxd: I dont know why it would :S it dident here and I have the same driver you do :S
[02:44] <LnxPrplxd> did you see my two screenshots?
[02:45] <LnxPrplxd> Dont you agree the after looks thin?
[02:46] <James147> LnxPrplxd: I wouldent say they look any thinner... after ones look slightly larger
[02:47] <LnxPrplxd> I made it 12 trying to fix it
[02:47] <James147> LnxPrplxd: try forcing the DPI to 96
[02:47] <LnxPrplxd> it lost its thickness and smoothness
[02:47] <LnxPrplxd> also now setting it back to 9 has made this text tiny in this window
[02:48] <James147> LnxPrplxd: try creating a new user... see how the fonts are there (will show if its a config problem or a system problem)
[02:48] <LnxPrplxd> good idea -
[02:48] <LnxPrplxd> brb
[02:50] <LnxPrplxd> arg where do I add a user
[02:50] <aguja85> is it possible  with a mail client to only download unread mails?
[02:51] <James147> System settings > advanced > user magment
[02:51] <James147> aguja85: they dont do that?
[02:52] <aguja85> James147: i think by default its gets all the mails both read and unread
[02:53] <James147> aguja85: all mail not previously downloaded ^^ (by that client at least)  do all mail server keep read/unread data?
[02:56] <aguja85> James147: yes, the problem was that it was the first time i was downloading. it wasn t so dramatic, it was quite fast because it only download the headers of each mail. 5 years using  gmail... thanks
[03:09] <cato37> i changed the settings trying to get the cd player to work yesterday. what are the default system settings->advanced tab->user management->user accounts->default user ->privileges and settings?
[03:12] <LnxPrplxd> Ok - same issue under new user - how do I revert back to default driver?
[03:13] <LnxPrplxd> video driver
[03:13] <James147> LnxPrplxd: easiest way should be to delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <James147> LnxPrplxd: I advice moving it rather then deleting :)
[03:14] <LnxPrplxd> James = do I need a reboot after that?
[03:14] <LnxPrplxd> sp back it up and move it then reboot?
[03:15] <James147> LnxPrplxd: reboot, no... restart X yes :) (naturally rebooting restarts x in the process)  but you can just restart X by loging out and clicking one of the menus and selecting restart X server or similar  (or press alt+pint screen +k)
[03:16] <James147> LnxPrplxd: one of the great things about linux is a reboot is rarly `required` but can be done if its easier :) in this case restraing X is quite easy and faster then rebooting
[03:19] <cato37> James147: i dont suppose you would know what the default privilege and user settings are in user management?
[03:20] <James147> cato37: you can create a new user to see... although the "first" user (one created at install) is in extra groups to "new" users :(
[03:21] <James147> cato37: i suggest not removing yourself from admin (or adm) as that will stop you being able to use sudo :D and lose you root access
[03:22] <cato37> James147: good idea with creating a new user account. . i am trying to find documentation. i am sure it is somewhere. k. thanx for the advice with the sude.
[03:22] <James147> cato37: otherthen that I am in currently in; dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin and sambashare
[03:22] <cato37> James147: thanx. i knew i had 5 but didnt remember which
[03:23] <James147> cato37: well i have 7 :)
[03:23] <cato37> erk
[03:24] <James147> cato37: fairly sure sambashare was one i added my self to... but i cant remember
[03:31] <cato37> James147: sambashare is something i will need when i hook up to the home network. roomates and i have a two ms pcś and wifi
[03:33] <James147> cato37: then you will need to install samba :) and I suggest using user shares (thats what that group is for) via the "net usershare" command... at least thats what the new samba UI is ment to be doing :)
[03:33] <LnxPrplxd> everything seems tiny again even though I deleted my xorg
[03:34] <James147> LnxPrplxd: not sure what to do then :S
[03:35] <LnxPrplxd> what resolution would the lvie cd run in?
[03:36] <James147> LnxPrplxd: iI think its try to get your native resalution
[03:36] <James147> much the same way not having an xorg.conf file would :p
[03:37] <LnxPrplxd> ok well i hate to reinstall again
[03:37] <LnxPrplxd> where I control the proprietary drivers?
[03:38] <cato37> k.
[03:38] <James147> LnxPrplxd: nvidia drivers can be configured by "kdesudo nvidia-settings"
[03:39] <James147> but I dont really see anything that might help with fonts in there
[03:40] <LnxPrplxd> well for example the text in this chat window os about 70% smaller than it was before I loaded the drive and I cannot explain how a driver would do that
[03:40] <James147> LnxPrplxd: nor can I :(
[03:41] <LnxPrplxd> I guess I will have to reload and reload driver just to confirm I am not crazy
[03:42] <James147> LnxPrplxd: wonder what happens if you install the driver on the live cd? (should work, for taht session only :)  )
[03:43] <LnxPrplxd> ok let me try that
[03:43] <LnxPrplxd> Where will I need to go for that once I am in -
[03:43] <LnxPrplxd> I thought a windows pops up and asks me about prop drivers
[03:45] <James147> LnxPrplxd: try running "jockey-kde" (called Hardware drivers in the menu, but I find alt+f2 quicker)  if thats not there run this in terminal "sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude install nvidia-current"
[04:07] <ubuntu> This is LnxPerplexed I am back on as LIVE SESSION - how do I install the .run driver file I downloaded from the Nvidia site while in a live session?
[04:08] <cato37> good evening all.
[04:11] <ubuntu> how do I install a .run driver file
[04:34] <vbgunz> ubuntu: chmod +X "the .run file"
[04:34] <vbgunz> ubuntu: did you do that?
[04:35] <vbgunz> ubuntu it's +x not +X, sorry
[04:36] <ubuntu> no - question - is it safe to run the latest drive on the nvidia site vs what comes up n the hardware repo?
[04:36] <ubuntu> chmod +x filename
[04:36] <vbgunz> ubuntu: one sec
[04:38] <vbgunz> ubuntu you sure you can run the 256.35 driver?
[04:38] <ubuntu> vbgunz: tried that no repsonse
[04:38] <vbgunz> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[04:38] <vbgunz> thats a ppa for the 256.35 drivers
[04:38] <ubuntu> I dont know I just went and go tht leatest one like I did on windows
[04:38] <vbgunz> I use that ppa with a gtx260 and it's good
[04:38] <ubuntu> does this not work under linux?
[04:39] <vbgunz> ubuntu: if you try and avoid run files, you make your life easier
[04:39] <vbgunz> if you really want to use the run file you can but you gotta jump through a few hoops
[04:39] <vbgunz> you can do the exact same thing right now, the better and recommended way
[04:39] <vbgunz> use the ppa to do it
[04:39] <ubuntu> no thats ok - I loaded on from the repo and it seemed to screw with my font sizes and made everything look tiny -
[04:39] <ubuntu> unsure why
[04:39] <vbgunz> its easy and a piece of cake to install and easy to uninstall
[04:40] <ubuntu> so now i am in a live session trying to test - but I dont think I can from alive session right?
[04:40] <vbgunz> ubuntu: you not understanding though really, the ppa only opens your options for newer packages
[04:40] <vbgunz> it doesn't do anything else to your system especially mess around with font sizes
[04:40] <ubuntu> well - I know what your saying but I swear something went wrong
[04:41] <vbgunz> ubuntu: after installing nvidia from any source, run or deb you gotta reboot not jut restart x though you might get away with it but most likely not see the best results
[04:41] <ubuntu> ok so I am confused - lets say I reload Kubuntu fresh - what driver do I want for say an Nvidia GEFORCE 8600
[04:41] <ubuntu> I did reboot thats when I logged in and got tiny fonts
[04:41] <vbgunz> not sure about that, which one works for you on windows?
[04:42] <vbgunz> is it legacy or the latest?
[04:42] <ubuntu> checked the fonts and sizes were the same as the live cd but they were tuiny looking
[04:42] <vbgunz> ubuntu: probably to do with your dpi
[04:42] <vbgunz> thats not too hard to change through system settings and through xorg
[04:42] <ubuntu> I am sure Windows 7 would allow me to load the latest thats shows as available for the 8600 on the NV site
[04:43] <vbgunz> then you should be able to use the latest driver from the repo I gave you
[04:43] <ubuntu> dpi - ok where does that get adjusted - I think I played with that trying to fix it but looked bad still
[04:43] <ubuntu> also the aliasing seemed off tried turning that on and off
[04:43] <vbgunz> there in the same place in system settings under appearance > fonts I think
[04:43] <vbgunz> not sure though, one sec
[04:44] <vbgunz> yeah, look and feel, appearance, fonts
[04:44] <ubuntu> that seems to be this one 256.35-0ubuntu2~xup
[04:44] <ubuntu> yea I played with DPI and it was not it
[04:44] <ubuntu> its wierd
[04:44] <vbgunz> you can try setting your dpi in your xorg file
[04:45] <ubuntu> ok - what is this ppa you sent me - how do I get a file from it -
[04:45] <vbgunz> In your monitor section add this > Option   "DPI" "99 x 99"
[04:45] <ubuntu> I see the same driver listed in the ppa as on the nvidia site
[04:45] <vbgunz> ubuntu:  you know how to open krunner?
[04:46] <vbgunz> type in kpackagekit and hit run
[04:46] <ubuntu> let me do this - let me boot back into my actual install and out of this love cd and lets continue this
[04:46] <vbgunz> its Alt+F2 by default I think
[04:46] <ubuntu> I have deleted after backing mup my nvidia xorg file
[04:46] <vbgunz> not sure if I would be around, I am waiting on pizza
[04:46] <vbgunz> you can write this down and get access to the latest official binary from a safe ppa
[04:47] <vbgunz> absolutely highly recommend vs ever trying to loop yourself with a run file
[04:48] <ubuntu> yea this is where I went - I got the driver from kpackage that hosed me
[04:48] <vbgunz> ubuntu: but how did it hose you?
[04:48] <ubuntu> I seacrhed for nvidia
[04:48] <ubuntu> example - right now this text looks nice - if I loaded the driver and rebooted the text comes in tiny
[04:48] <ubuntu> makes no sense
[04:49] <vbgunz> do you know how to edit xorg?
[04:49] <ubuntu> eve though its san 9 etc
[04:49] <ubuntu> sure I can edit xorg  - I have it backed up
[04:49] <vbgunz> good thing
[04:50] <ubuntu> so add this option thing?
[04:50] <ubuntu> is that what you mean by editing
[04:50] <vbgunz> I am not sure if you have to disable dpi in your system settings *but* you can add this option to your monitor section in xorg -> Option   "DPI" "99 x 99"
[04:50] <vbgunz> its obviously a bit bigger than 96 DPI
[04:51] <vbgunz> ubuntu: what not make your fonts bigger the easier way? just do it through system settings fonts?
[04:51] <ubuntu> its hard to explain - they did not look the same - they were all thin and tiny
[04:51] <vbgunz> well, you can try restarting x a few times until the dpi is what you want
[04:52] <ubuntu> I guess its related to sub pixel smoothing or anti aliasing but I could not get it to look like the live cd after I loaded the prop driver
[04:52] <vbgunz> but you have more room to customize using xorg but still not sure if you have to disable the dpi handling in system settings
[04:53] <ubuntu> ok - how I restart X usually without rebot
[04:53] <vbgunz> you can log out then hit the power system and restart from there
[04:53] <vbgunz> or go to tty1 and do a sudo service kdm restart
[04:53] <ubuntu> i thought there was like a control k print screen or something
[04:54] <vbgunz> oh yeah, but that don't work out the box no more
[04:54] <vbgunz> something about nozap or dontzap option
[04:54] <ubuntu> ok ill play with it somemore
[04:54] <vbgunz> what I do which is easiest is safely logout and restart x
[04:56] <ubuntu> What am I looking for in Kpackage - in the search box?
[04:56] <vbgunz> ubuntu check this and look at the adding a ppa repo part https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:57] <ubuntu> ok I know how to lcik to add the other repos
[04:57] <ubuntu> so I want to add those unsported repos?
[04:58] <vbgunz> yeah, their safe, its only one
[04:58] <vbgunz> from experience, well, it works for me just fine I got the 256.35 driver
[04:58] <ubuntu> So I want Multiverse and Restricted
[04:58] <ubuntu> and maybe the 256 is from Multi which is not enabled
[04:59] <vbgunz> I believe those have the 195.24 or something so version
[04:59] <vbgunz> thats even better for you if you don't like adding repos
[05:01] <ubuntu> hmm well I am trying that and I cant find this listing for 256 at all
[05:02] <vbgunz> gotta go, pizza here, ubuntu, adding the ppa repo is safe just not officially supported. it does contain the latest driver. check the repositores how to link I sent you for adding the ppa. remember the dpi monitor option as that might help. good luck I might be around later
[06:12] <naftilos76> hello, how do i do firestarter to appear in Kubuntu with a decent GUI? Should i install any Gnome pkgs? Its' interface is ugly!
[06:19] <enzoplex> What is the channel for the Ubuntu server?
[06:21] <commander_> how do i enable 3 monitors on ati 5series
[06:22] <dan_> errr...anybody experienced any issues with virtualbox not recognizing a cdrom drive?
[06:25] <enzoplex> dan_: I have that issue from time to time. It will usually resolve itself when I restart VirtualBox. I'm using XP in VirtualBox, if that matters.
[06:27] <dan_> enzoplex:  I'll give it a shot.  I'm running xp in vbox as well.  I just temporarily got around the problem by mapping the cdrom drive like a shared folder.
[06:29] <enzoplex> dan_: I am not in front of my computer at this time to give you my setup, but I know I have it as its own CD drive.
[06:29] <dan_> I'll putz with it.  At least I know it can be done:)
[06:30] <dan_> I run a vbox for one reason:  excel.    An entire operating system to run _one_ program.
[06:42] <enzoplex> dan_: I run it for quicken. You can use OpenOffice for Excel.
[06:43] <dan_> enzoplex:  I wish it were true :)  OOO is good.  Don't get me wrong.  But for a lot of stuff in my scope of needs excel just has the edge.  (I already put on my flame retardent suit)
[08:35] <trax_> What is the general channel for just BS talk?
[08:47] <thenappy> hi everybody
[08:48] <thenappy> i want install X os on my laptop
[08:48] <cafeteria> Whenever I try to use OTR encryption in Kopete, the program crashes while trying to generate the key.
[08:48] <thenappy> so i have only ubuntu on
[08:49] <thenappy> now i wat i do ?
[08:51] <cafeteria> Has anyone run into this problem?
[08:58] <trax_> Wish i could help you guys but i'm a complete n00b
[08:58] <trax_> i don't think many 'gurus' are on tonight
[09:04] <unni> i want to run swf2jar software pls help
[09:04] <unni>  i want to run swf2jar software pls help
[09:05] <cafeteria> Whenever I try to use OTR encryption in Kopete, the program crashes while trying to generate the key. I've tried pidgin. It has a diferent bug with OTR, and I don't like it, anyway.
[09:05] <unni> fuck off dont use it
[09:05] <maco> unni: excuse me? watch your mouth
[09:06] <unni> sorry
[09:06] <unni> [13:34] <unni> i want to run swf2jar software pls help
[09:06] <unni>  i want to run swf2jar software pls help
[09:06] <maco> i dont know how, and im about to head to bed, but as thats not a kde specific question, give #ubuntu a try
[09:07] <unni> done still not working
[09:07] <cafeteria> Try learning some grammar and manners, too.
[09:07] <unni> i said sorry sorry
[09:07] <unni> pls help in using swf2jar
[09:10] <unni> response someone
[09:11] <unni> ok i quit
[09:12] <unni> thanks for the corporation with me Love you all
[09:13] <trax_> ahh peace and quiet its so under rated...
[09:57] <cafeteria> Whenever I try to use OTR encryption in Kopete, the program crashes while trying to generate the key.
[10:25] <camilosebastianl> hola alguien habla español?
[10:27] <camilosebastianl> tengo conflictos con el apagado y el reiniciado de mi equipo
[10:27] <Misterio> camilosebastianl: Sí, pero para soporte en español puedes ir a #kubuntu-es, aunque habrá poca gente
[10:28] <Misterio> camilosebastianl: Aquí sólo se permite en Español
[10:28] <Misterio> oops, inglés
[11:19] <jillsmitt> where can i create open gpg key in kubuntu?
[11:20] <Misterio> jillsmitt: http://utils.kde.org/projects/kgpg/
[11:21] <jillsmitt> Misterio: thx
[11:21] <Misterio> You're welcome
[11:35] <camilosebastianl> on mi ubuntu
[11:36] <camilosebastianl> igual estoy feliz con mi ubuntu
[11:44] <Guest27925> hi
[11:44] <Guest27925> just upgraded to 10.04...and KPackageManagement screen always empty
[11:47] <robin___> hi
[11:48] <robin___> just upgraded to 10.04....KPackageManagement screen now always empty in 'Software Management' page (Software updates works ok)
[11:50] <robin___> Laptop networking stops after power sleep mode....can someone help pleas
[11:50] <robin___> t
[11:55] <robin___> hi
[11:55] <coz_> hey guys..a couple of things... first... how to get wallpaper to stretch across both monitors on dual monitor set up or at least mirror on the secondary monitor...and  second   I use cairo dock at the top of the screen but icons want tomove "under" the dock...any way to remedy both of these issues?
[11:55] <robin___> upgraded to 10.04...SoftwareManager now empty - any ideas?
[12:06] <coz_> hey guys... what is this "bar" above the panel at the bottom?  it is not on my other system?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/snapshot1.png
[12:09] <poyntz> does Alt+F2 not work in kde 4.4?
[12:46] <coz_> hey guys   any way to  stretch a wallpaper    onto secondary monitor or at least  mirror it on the secondary?
[14:00] <RaGNORAK> samba seems to like mocking me way too much  :(
[14:01] <Ezro> Hey, can someone help me with my kmail, please?
[14:02] <Ezro> It won't check my mail anymore.
[14:03] <SilverCode> Ezro : what happens when you try check your mail?
[14:04] <Ezro> It's grayed out.
[14:04] <Ezro> I can't click it at all :-/
[14:04] <SilverCode> Ezro: have you specified mail accounts?
[14:04] <Ezro> Ya, I think so?
[14:04] <Ezro> It says my email in the identifier thing
[14:05] <SilverCode> Ezro: are you talking about the "Check Mail" button?
[14:05] <Ezro> Ya.
[14:06] <SilverCode> Ezro: ok, so you have an identity set up under identities
[14:06] <Ezro> Ya.
[14:06] <SilverCode> Ezro: do you have accounts set up under accounts?
[14:06] <Ezro> My kontact won't even load now.
[14:07] <Ezro> Kubuntu has been acting up lately.
[14:07] <SilverCode> Ezro: Don't feel bad, my Kubuntu fucks up all the time
[14:08] <Ezro> I had the desktop effects on
[14:08] <Ezro> And I was in love with it lol
[14:08] <Ezro> But now the desktop effects don't work properly
[14:08] <Ezro> And sometimes they just turn off completely
[14:09] <SilverCode> Ezro: yeah, that used to happen to me too
[14:09] <Ezro> Alright, my kontact is open
[14:09] <Ezro> How do I check if my account is set up under accounts?
[14:10] <SilverCode> Ezro: on the left hand side, click the "Accounts" option
[14:10] <RaGNORAK> is there anyone here who is  a samba expert or something
[14:10] <RaGNORAK> this thing is just trying to fuck with me
[14:11] <SilverCode> Ezro: you should see a list on the right, is there anything in that list?
[14:11] <Ezro> Hm.. hold on
[14:13] <Pici> !language
[14:14] <Ezro> I don't see an "accounts" option anywhere.
[14:14] <Ezro> I see account wizard, to add accounts.
[14:14] <Ezro> But no "accounts" option
[14:14] <SilverCode> Ezro: do you know which version of KMail you are using?
[14:16] <Ezro> I'm using Kontact.
[14:18] <Ezro> And this alt-tab effect is bothering me. It used to look so cool and now it looks like garbage.
[14:19] <SilverCode> Ezro: ok, KMail is a part of Kontact. When you Click ""Settings" in Kontact, do you see a "Configure KMail"?
[14:20] <Ezro> Yezzir.
[14:20] <Ezro> And I see my email there.
[14:20] <Ezro> Identity name: Ezro (default)
[14:21] <Ezro> And then my email is there
[14:22] <SilverCode> Ezro: ok, down the left hand side of the "Configure KMail", you shoud see "Identities,Acounts,Apperance,composer,Security,Misc"
[14:22] <SilverCode> Ezro: you see those?
[14:23] <Ezro> Yup
[14:23] <SilverCode> Ezro: right, click on "Accounts"
[14:24] <SilverCode> Ezro: there should be 2 tabs at the top now, "Receiving" and "Sending"
[14:24] <Ezro> Ya, there's nothing in receiving.
[14:24] <SilverCode> Ezro: ok, click "Add..."
[14:24] <Ezro> K
[14:24] <SilverCode> Ezro: then do you know your email settings?
[14:24] <Ezro> I forgot how to configure live mail on here, but I'm googling.
[14:25] <SilverCode> Ezro: live mail ... as in the Microsoft mail service thingy?
[14:25] <Ezro> Ya.
[14:25] <SilverCode> Ezro: heh, then you are on your own :)
[14:28] <SilverCode> Ezro: you should be able to find the detials you want though and just fill them in. You will then need to do the same for the "Sending" tab and set up an account for sending mail
[14:32] <RaGNORAK> Fixed it :)
[14:32] <Ezro> http://windowslivehelp.com/solution.aspx?solutionid=a485233f-206d-491e-941b-118e45a7cf1b
[14:32] <Ezro> :)
[14:33] <Ezro> Just need to get it to download my new emails -_-
[14:39] <Ezro> I absolutely love this Kontact program lol
[14:39] <Ezro> Best stock program I have ever seen in any OS.
[14:40] <Ezro> I just need to figure out how to add comments to a pdf now lol
[14:43] <Ezro> Oh, SilverCode, are you using netbook edition of Kubuntu?
[14:45] <SilverCode> Ezro: nope
[14:45] <Ezro> Oh :-/
[14:45] <Ezro> Would you happen to know how to move this taskbar, though?
[14:45] <Ezro> When I go to the top of my screen it brings a taskbar
[14:45] <Ezro> And I don't like it there lol
[14:47] <SilverCode> Ezro: if I had to hazzard a guess, I would say right click on the desktop, click "Unlock widgets", then a small semi-circle will appear on the right of the taskbar. Click on that, then click on the "Screen Edge" button
[14:47] <SilverCode> Ezro: I haven't ever looked at the netbook edition of Kubuntu, so that is based on my knowledge of the desktop version
[14:47] <Ezro> Ah, I'll try that thten
[14:47] <SilverCode> when I say click the "Screen Edge" button, I mean click and drag to where you would like it to be
[14:48] <SilverCode> Ezro: then once you are done putting it where you like, right click on the desktop again and cheeck "Lock widgets"
[14:51] <Ezro> Bleh, couldn't get it.
[14:52] <SilverCode> Ezro: what happens?
[14:52] <James147> Ezro: the netbook version is different, to do it (Note: I am on kde 4.5 RC2, I dont know if it was there in 4.4.x) click on the cachew in the bottem corner, it should bring up a popup over the panel that will allow you to drag it (by dragging the "height" button
[14:53] <James147> SilverCode: Just so you know, there is no semi circle that appears on the netbook planel, and no "panel settings" on right click of it :S
[14:54] <James147> Ezro: you also will need to unlock the panel :)
[14:55] <Ezro> Tyvm James147
[14:57] <James147> Ezro: not sue why they put it at the top :S (generally i have no problem with it there) but the default settings on the netbook make it very hard to click the menu bar of programs, as 1/2 the time the panel pops up :S
[14:57] <Ezro> Ya
[14:57] <Ezro> When I'm on Kontact/Google Chrome I constantly bring up the taskbar
[15:00] <Ezro> I wish I could play d2 in class T_T
[15:00] <Ezro> I keep getting locked at the server connection page lol
[15:15] <Misterio> gparted for KDE?
[15:17] <James147> Misterio: kde partition manager :) (install: partitionmanager)
[15:17] <Misterio> Okay :)
[15:21] <estres> Hi there, I have a laptop and Ijust installed kubuntu the last version please help me, I want to configure the touchpad but I can not get access to the options in the Touchpad-System setting tab, the touchpad is working but I would like to make some changes but it does not let me, a little help please
[15:26] <blain> estres mouse under System Settings ?
[15:27] <estres> blain: there is a Touchpad section in System Settings I want tou use this tool
[15:28] <estres> blain: System settings - Keyboard & Mouse - Touchpad
[15:29] <James147> estres: that control module is now to this release and I havent had much luck with it so far :(
[15:29] <James147> new ^^
[15:30] <estres> James147: ok
[15:30] <James147> estres: I ended up searching the fourms for a manual approch but cant remember what I did :) if you do that I advise looking for newer posts as the way they are configured has changed
[15:47] <Godfather8850> Hi! does Kubuntu use the same Kernel with Ubuntu?
[15:47] <James147> Godfather8850: yes
[15:47] <James147> Godfather8850: it shares the same everything, but the default isntalled packages :S
[15:47] <Godfather8850> James147, which is the last update?
[15:48] <James147> Godfather8850: i have 2.6.32-23
[15:48] <Godfather8850> James147, There is a bug in Ubuntu with the VGA out of Radeons. I was wondering if it is gonna make any difference if I install Kubuntu
[15:49] <James147> Godfather8850: not sure sorry :(
[15:49] <James147> Godfather8850: you could try a live cd, see if that has the issue
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, which radeon ?
[15:49] <Godfather8850> BlueKaj, X1600
[15:49] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, X1600
[15:52] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, using the xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd driver?
[15:52] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, is this one the default open-source?
[15:53] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, It is a big problem for me since when I connect my laptop with the VGA i get a wavy projection in the TV screen
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, not sure , but the package manager lists your card as supported by this driver. ...I'm an nvidia userso it's difficult for me to tell whether it's the default kernel source driver .
[15:55] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, how can I check that?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, what kind of tv connection , VGA?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> lspci | grep VGA , in the terminal , Godfather8850
[15:57] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, Yes VGA connection but the image on the TV screen is tooo wavy I don't know what to do
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, using an adapter/converter from the pc VGA out to the TV in ?
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, VGA to SCART ?
[16:08] <rnd`> vga to hdmi
[16:09] <Godfather8850> BluesKaj, VGA to VGA
[16:17] <BluesKaj> Godfather8850, open a terminal and type, lspci | grep VGA
[16:17] <BluesKaj> or copy and paste
[16:18] <BluesKaj> tell us what the terminal responds
[16:41] <sorind> i have a problem with the nvidia driver.  After the required reboot  after the driver installation everything works fine, but at the next restart it is very slow, and some kwin effects stop working(blur)
[16:42] <sorind> i saw that there is a problem with the driver,  and that the solution is to patch xserver
[16:42] <sorind> but i don't really want to do that
[16:45] <sorind> i made a little mistake, it isn't the nvidia driver, it's the ati driver
[17:15] <BluesKaj> sorind, which ati card?
[17:16] <sorind> Radeon Mobility HD5450
[17:17] <sorind> when i had ubuntu installed it had no problems with compiz. Only now, in kubuntu it started to misbehave
[17:45] <kavurt> when my kubuntu is idle for 10 minutes, my monitor turns off. how can I keep it on at all times?
[17:58] <coz_> hey guys...how to get previews on the desktop of icons etc etc?
[17:59] <Mamarok> coz_: what do you mean, previews on the desktop?
[18:00] <coz_> Mamarok,  right now I see icons for images on the desktop but  not the actual preview of the image
[18:00] <Mamarok> ah, you mean the folder view widget?
[18:00] <coz_> Mamarok,  well I have folder view set for the desktop
[18:00] <coz_> Mamarok,  but no previews
[18:01] <coz_> Mamarok,  I have all of the preview files ticked under folder view
[18:01] <Mamarok> coz_: which KDE version do you use?
[18:01] <coz_> Mamarok,  4.5 RC2
[18:02] <simulacrum> coz_: you should try #kubuntu-devel or #kde-devel this channel is for the stable version
[18:02] <simulacrum> of the KDE from Kubuntu
[18:02] <coz_> simulacrum,  okie dokie :)
[18:02] <Mamarok> coz_: it works here
[18:03] <Mamarok> simulacrum: not #kubuntu-devel, it is not a support channel, #kde is the place to ask
[18:03] <coz_> mmm ok let me go there then
[18:04] <Mamarok> coz_: well, something must be wrong with your settings, it works here
[18:04] <coz_> Mamarok,   this is a fresh install too
[18:04] <coz_> let me screenshot it
[18:04] <simulacrum> let's see..
[18:05] <Mamarok> coz_: I don't need a screenshot
[18:05] <Mamarok> and let's take to the other channel
[18:11] <kavurt> how can I stop my monitor to sleep?
[19:19] <ncfi1013> in linux by default i dont have to worry about not having a router right?
[19:19] <blain> ?
[19:19] <blain> why shouldnt you?
[19:20] <maco> er... well if you want to route data to more than one computer, you do need one
[19:20] <maco> of course, you can configure your linux box to BE a router...
[19:20] <blain> linux routes by default
[19:21] <ncfi1013> mainly protection from security threats
[19:21] <maco> routers arent security devices
[19:21] <blain> it depends on the router
[19:21] <maco> some routers have NATs, which *still* arent security devices (though some people pretend they are)
[19:21] <blain> but i still dont get your question right
[19:22] <Rerix> how to restart gnome from trminal?
[19:22] <maco> firewalls are security devices, and linux has one built in. in the kernel its called netfilter. in userspace it's iptables, and in the ubuntu world there's a handy little wrapper to make it easier, called ufw
[19:22] <Misterio> Rerix: logout, and relogin
[19:22] <blain> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[19:22] <maco> however, ubuntu has no services listening on any ports by default, so there's nothing anyone could try to connect to anyway
[19:22] <Rerix> thks
[19:23] <maco> (which is why it doesnt matter that iptables lacks a default config)
[19:23] <Rerix> any russians here?
[19:24] <maco> blain: that a detailed enough answer?
[19:24] <blain> say what?
[19:25] <ncfi1013> maco youre very knowledgable thank you
[19:25] <maco> blain: er not you sorry :P
[19:25]  * maco getting confused by all the humans
[19:25] <ncfi1013> dont even know if i spelled that word right...
[19:26] <blain> just say he's geek
[19:26] <maco> <-- she
[19:26] <blain> oh
[19:26] <blain> didn't know
[19:26] <aguja85_> any game reccomendations from the repositories?
[19:26] <blain> sorry about that, won't happen again
[19:27] <ncfi1013> maco how do i configure my linux box to be a router?
[19:27] <maco> iptables forwarding rules can do it
[19:27] <maco> there's also software in the repos to make it easier
[19:27] <blain> nexuiz?
[19:28] <maco> ive only ever done it with pure iptables. was a few years ago
[19:29] <blain> i'm sure there are tons of guides out there
[19:29] <blain> i actually don't know since my router does it for me
[19:29] <blain> and it's not linux
[19:29] <maco> i had to do it in school
[19:29] <maco> configure one centos vm to be a router between two others
[19:30] <maco> ncfi1013: youd need to have >1 network interface for starters...
[19:30] <blain> nice :)
[19:30] <blain> i've done it in live production ^^
[19:30] <ncfi1013> what keywords do i use to find info on the net?
[19:30] <blain> linux router howto
[19:31] <Quintasan> Hello, did anyone manag to connect Kubuntu to a HDTV?
[19:31] <afief> How can I diagnose a crash in my Kubuntu? (black screen, ctrl+alt+fn not working, couldn't try ssh because I don't have another pc at hand)
[19:31] <blain> afief less /var/log/messages
[19:32] <ncfi1013> oh how stable is lynx by now? i still havent upgraded because of all the issues there still are with plasma.
[19:33] <blain> isnt lynx a cli browser?
[19:34] <afief> blain, apparently the last message before the crash is "Jul 14 17:38:35 afief-laptop kernel: [38751.636074] device eth1 left promiscuous mode"...
[19:34] <blain> that's not something who could cause a crash
[19:34] <blain> what are you trying to hack?
[19:36] <afief> blain, me? I was trying to write a a little Qt program, all userspace(and nothing malicious)
[19:36] <blain> promiscuous mode..
[19:37] <maco> blain: ncfi1013 means lucid lynx
[19:37] <starslights> Quintasan:  well i dont have tried with TV but i work with HD monitor on HDMI wildscreen only  and it work fine for me, so i presume that must be the same for a TV if you use the same cable
[19:37] <blain> ah
[19:37] <maco> ncfi1013: pretty stable for me. akonadi's still kinda "eh" (need to manually start it before starting kontact for address book to work), though i havent tried with the 4.4.3 ppa linked in /topic
[19:38] <blain> i had an issue with the first boot
[19:38] <Quintasan> starslights: did it auto configure for you?
[19:38] <blain> it hanged at the login manager
[19:38] <blain> had to reset the machine
[19:38] <blain> and boot with the older kernel
[19:38] <afief> blain, I honestly don't know. All my program does is send some Http requests... perhaps it's from using wireshark to look at the packages being sent?
[19:38] <blain> i would say kismet
[19:39] <blain> wireshark does turn the card to behave like that
[19:39] <blain> i could be wrong
[19:40] <maco> wireshark needs promiscuous i think
[19:40] <maco> is why it needs to be started as root, iirc
[19:40] <maco> (though having it then drop root perms is preferrable)
[19:41] <starslights> Quintasan: well yeah, on Lucid, it was auto but not on karmic
[19:43] <starslights> if the problem persist , try the next kernel who will soon come out , the "2.6.35" who must fixed that problem, well for me sure, after , dev must look about your problem specifly, but i thing related ,
[19:44] <starslights> for my part, i am really impatient that it will be ready and commit  :p
[19:46] <starslights> Quintasan:  take a look at my report if you want https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/585776
[19:53] <Quintasan> starslights: well I have VGA cable and the biggest resolution xrandr reports is 1600x1200, serial console works fine on my HD screen but when I start X I get only a black screen
[19:55] <starslights> ah ok, so it's not the same problem , what graphic card do you have ?
[19:55] <Quintasan> ATI Radeon HD3450
[19:56] <Quintasan> I have tried toying around with xorg.conf but that didn't help
[19:56] <starslights> i don't know ATI but you have sure a panel where you can set differents screens, have you look in if you can configure your TV ?
[19:57] <Quintasan> starslights: I have it connected to a TV only, let me move my LCD scrren
[20:00] <enzoplex> Can I please have someone's default /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[20:03] <starslights> enzoplex:  i have a generator for that if you want ?
[20:03] <starslights> but i don't have the official , sorry
[20:04] <enzoplex> starslights: Yes please.
[20:04] <starslights> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[20:05] <starslights> you have the defaut catégorie , well i never used it but it's always usefuul :p
[20:06] <raindog> Other than extra libraries, what are the drawbacks of having both gnome and KDE environments installed?
[20:06] <enzoplex> starslights: Thank you. I'm getting exactly what I need.
[20:06] <starslights> you are welcome  ^^:D
[20:07] <James147> raindog: giving your users more options ;) thus more ways to screw you over
[20:08] <raindog> James147: Very true.  Thankfully this is a single-user machine.  I'm currently only using KDE.
[20:08] <James147> raindog: but other then a larger amount of updates and space there isent really any downside
[20:09] <raindog> James147: It's common for me to have both installed and switch back and forth, but I've been using only KDE for about 6 months now on this machine.
[20:09] <James147> raindog: there is also the down side of a larger memory if you use kde in gnome or gnome in kde (due to ahving to load both sets of librarys)
[20:10] <James147> raindog: but that a runtime issue not an install one :)
[20:10] <raindog> James147: Ah, yes.  What about bits like CouchDB?
[20:10] <James147> raindog: i have no clue what that is
[20:11] <raindog> James147: I believe it's used in Ubuntu.  I'm just not sure if it needs to be loaded all the time no matter the desktop environment.
[20:12] <James147> raindog: never heard of it before and dosent sound like a kde app so i doupt its imporant :) what does it do? if kde has a simular feature there is no point in running both
[20:13] <James147> raindog: its not installed on my system...
[20:14] <raindog> James147: It's a database that I think is used for things like Tomboy notes and such, but I'm sure that I'm truly ignorant of the extent of its usage.
[20:14] <James147> raindog: well, it dosent appear to be used in kubuntu by default
[20:26] <shinigami> бу
[21:08] <daniel__> I am having difficulty logging into my cups server (at http://localhost:631). Although my username is a member of the lpadmin group, cups does not validate my password. Any suggestions?
[21:36] <jillsmitt> how to made kubuntu faster?
[21:36] <jillsmitt> i have visual problems with resizing windows in kde
[21:36] <blain> use better drivers
[21:38] <jillsmitt> blain: its nvidia drivers installed from Hardware Drivers application
[21:38] <James147> jillsmitt: not sure if this will help much, but you could try launching kde/qt application with the option "--graphicssystem raster"
[21:38] <blain> are they being used?
[21:39] <jillsmitt> blain: yes it is
[21:39] <jillsmitt> James147: i need to start every program like that?
[21:39] <James147> jillsmitt: try it and see if it actually make a difference
[21:39] <blain> no
[21:49] <gugamilare> hello
[21:49] <blain> ei cara
[21:49] <blain> tudo bem
[21:49] <gugamilare> opa :) falando português
[21:50] <blain> e mesmo
[21:50] <gugamilare> eu estava tentando reportar um problema usando o ubuntu-bug
[21:50] <gugamilare> mas ele reclama que eu não estou usando um "flavor" que usa "pulse audio"
[21:51] <gugamilare> tem alguma ideia?
[21:52] <blain> nao
[21:52] <blain> mas o que e que reportar um bug tem a haver com pulse audio
[21:53] <blain> nao estou entendendo
[21:53] <gugamilare> eu também não
[21:53] <gugamilare> eu abro ubuntu-bug
[21:53] <gugamilare> aí eu escolho xorg
[21:53] <well_laid_lawn> !en
[21:53] <gugamilare> sorry :/
[21:53] <gugamilare> can someone else help me?
[21:54] <gugamilare> I'm trying to report a bug using ubuntu-bug
[21:54] <blain> instala o pacote que ele pede
[21:54] <blain> e tenta de novo
[21:56] <gugamilare> let me try
[21:59] <gugamilare> ok, I got the problem, thanks
[22:18] <philippos> Does anyone speak German?
[22:23] <blain> philippos nein
[22:24] <blain> Warum fragen Sie?
[22:31] <ionut> hei, how can i cancel a package (kopete) because the webcam is not working anymore. i want to cancel the package , and reinstall it new from the beginning
[22:33] <James147> ionut: cancel? you mean uninstall/remove? normally "sudo aptitude remove <packagename>" will do it but to just reinstall you can do "sudo aptitude reinstall <packagename>" I dont see why this would help however
[22:34] <James147> ionut: Havent used kopete in a while but last time I tryed it dident have great web cam support :(
[22:34] <ionut> James147: maybe i done some settings wrong.however i want to uninstall the package, like he never existed
[22:35] <derdon> James147: may you try again? then I could check my web cam support :)
[22:35] <James147> ionut: to completely remove the package "sudo aptitude purge <packagename>" the difference from this to the ohters is that it will also remove config files installed by the package
[22:36] <ionut> James147: ow yaa , this is what i want, thanks
[22:36] <James147> derdon: I would, but I no longer use msn and cant remember the password (it seems to display my cam in thevideo settings though)
[22:37] <derdon> James147: what about jabber?
[22:37] <James147> derdon: never could get jabba to work with kopete (not that I have any friends that use it)
[22:37] <derdon> James147: ok
[22:40]  * James147 loves having "alias i='sudo aptitude install'"
[23:39] <jillsmitt_> why i cant sign message in kmail?
[23:39] <jillsmitt_> Signing failed: Bad passphrase
[23:39] <jillsmitt_> where need i enter passphrase?
[23:41] <Torch> jillsmitt_: you need to correctly set up a pinentry helper
[23:41] <jillsmitt_> Torch: what is it?
[23:44] <Torch> jillsmitt_: a program to ask for your passphrase.
[23:45] <Torch> jillsmitt_: basically you need /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4
[23:45] <Torch> jillsmitt_: and the line "pinentry-program /usr/bin/pinentry-qt4" in .gnupg/gpg-agent.conf
[23:45] <Torch> jillsmitt_: i don't set this up every day, but i think that was it ;-)
[23:45] <ridin> or
[23:46] <jillsmitt_> Torch: thank you
[23:46] <ridin> just use a different mail client
[23:46] <ridin> ;x
[23:46] <jillsmitt_> ridin: or...
[23:46] <Torch> jillsmitt_: the former is from the package pinenty-qt4
[23:46] <jillsmitt_> kmail is very cool
[23:46] <Torch> ridin: which KDE mail client do you suggest?
[23:46] <ridin> mmmm
[23:46] <ridin> i just use whatever i get
[23:46] <ridin> i just started with gnome, so i'm using evolution
[23:47] <Torch> ridin: great suggestion.
[23:47] <jillsmitt_> Torch: pinentry-qt4 installed
[23:47] <jillsmitt_> before i ask here
[23:57] <eMyller> hello, i just installed kubuntu on a relatiely old machine and it's not behaving very well with the monitor; the resolution is right, but it looks like the desktop is zoomed, the display is cropped, i think you know what i mean. any workaround?
[23:57] <jillsmitt_> Torch: http://imglink.ru/pictures/15-07-10/f4da09aab1ab4ea668d4694891e6d980.png
[23:58] <Torch> jillsmitt_: that error message doesn't say much, iirc. to diagnose what's wrong you need to turn on debugging output and run kmail from a shell, then look what it's complaining about.
[23:59] <jillsmitt_> okay, i will solve it tomorrow