[00:09] <skellat> belkinsa: Can't make any of the meeting dates anymore?
[00:09] <belkinsa> Hmm?  I can make it to all
[00:09] <skellat> Okay...you don't show up on the Doodle poll anymore.  I had an e-mail that said you deleted your responses earlier today.
[00:09] <belkinsa> WTF, I so didn't delete them.
[00:10] <skellat> Time stamped 7:58 AM
[00:10] <skellat> Who knows
[00:10] <belkinsa> Doodle and their ideas of who can do what
[00:11] <skellat> Yeah, the Damien Calloway entry also disappeared at the same timestamp in my inbox this morning
[00:12] <belkinsa> I saw when I went back to it
[00:12] <belkinsa> Thanks for pointing that out
[00:13] <skellat> I gotta leave it sit until the drop-dead mark point tomorrow night but currently we're looking at November 9th at 8 PM.
[00:13] <belkinsa> I'm cool with that
[00:13] <skellat> If more responses flood in during the time remaining, that may change
[00:16] <belkinsa> I would suggest you to e-mail Damien Calloway about someone deleted his response on the the Doodle poll.
[00:20] <belkinsa> skellat, that was me who just changed my options.  I created an account to protect what I have said.
[00:20] <skellat> belkinsa: Cool.  Already got the e-mail pingback from Doodle
[00:21] <belkinsa> I figured, but I wanted to explain it if you didn't understand
[00:25] <skellat> :-)
[00:25] <skellat> I only helped move 2,700 pounds of trash at the garbage dump today.  I may be tired but not too, too tired.
[00:26] <skellat> Here's the initial meeting agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OhioTeam/MeetingAgenda2013-11
[00:26] <jenni> [ OhioTeam/MeetingAgenda2013-11 - Ubuntu Wiki ] - https://j.mp/1h2pzsJ
[00:26] <belkinsa> Thanks.
[22:10] <Unit193> paultag: I take it you don't know Julien Valroff?
[23:05] <paultag> Unit193: not sure; should I?
[23:06] <Unit193> He's a DM, figure you at least know of almost everyone but with my luck I'd find the 3 you don't. :P
[23:12] <paultag> Unit193: :)
[23:24] <Unit193> He does gsimplecal an a couple others, but not online here or at OFTC.
[23:30] <paultag> I'll keep an eye out :)
[23:41] <Unit193> It's nothing major, made a patch for gsimplecal that helps me and would be nice to get it in, for myself or others, but I think not likely.


[12:44] <sebsebseb> hi
[17:05] <rektide> i upgraded from 16.04 -> 16.10 -> 17.04. i use the awesome window manager. when i used to run unity-control-panel, i got a decent number of options. now i get only three- language support, printers, software update.
[17:05] <rektide> unity-settings-daemon is running.
[17:06] <rektide> i'm just trying to change some filetype associations that seem to have gotten blown away. :/
[17:09] <rektide> ugggh there's some awful ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list that requires me to know a media type (not a filename) and i have to point the media-type at a .desktop file of some kind
[17:09] <rektide> this sucks egg
[17:10] <rektide> it'd be great if i had a gui to control this but something broke during upgrade and now unity-control-center isn't at all helpful


[00:00] <MoleMan2> errors=remount-ro sounds like a useful thing -_- will that run on any single disk read error?
[00:01] <MoleMan2> gartral: I presume you've tried top / htop to check if you can see what is running causing the load?
[00:02] <gartral> yes, htop show 20% CPU usage and less than 15% ram usage
[00:03] <MoleMan2> sarnold: theres very little important data on it TBH, most of the stuff that matters are probably configs and scripts I could copy off
[00:03] <sarnold> MoleMan2: ah, good. :)
[00:03] <MoleMan2> the only other thing I'd need is a backup of my Quassel db for IRC, that could take a while though :p
[00:04] <MoleMan2> everything else is 'media' on an external disk which I doubt will be affected, and is re-obtainable anyway :)
[00:04] <gartral> sarnold: also, ignore that 50c, byobu isn't reporting the right temps
[00:08] <MoleMan2> aargh, having VPN access would make this so much easier
[00:08]  * MoleMan2 reboots his router, hoping that doesn't get any worse
[00:08] <MoleMan2> oh wait, I can't. I can't access it without VPN to start with :(
[00:09] <gholms> This sounds like a job for dial-up!
[00:09] <gholms> Bah, wrong channel
[00:09] <gholms> ...though I guess it's appropriate for this one as well.  >_>
[00:09] <gholms> Sorry.
[00:13] <MoleMan2> right, sarnold, I'll ask now for when I've finished copying whatever I can think of, would I be better trying to force and fsck now before I reboot, or just go for a reboot and pray it comes back up? :p
[00:14] <MoleMan2> as the server is currently as good as useless anyway. so, I'll just grab some alcohol and forget about it if it all goes wrong
[00:14] <sarnold> MoleMan2: I think reboot and pray
[00:14] <MoleMan2> okay, thanks :)
[00:15] <MoleMan2> I'm SO glad I'm the type of person that just goes for 'whatever's going to happen will happen, why bother worrying or stressing' :P
[00:16] <sarnold> that helps :)
[00:21] <MoleMan2> oh, thats good. I can't connect to PostGreSQL, backing that up could be fun then
[00:22] <MoleMan2> screw it,
[00:22]  * MoleMan2 reboots
[00:23]  * MoleMan2 goes to get alcohol, and wait
[00:30] <MoleMan2> con...conn... connection refused
[00:31] <sarnold> refused? not timed out?
[00:31] <MoleMan2> not timed out
[00:31] <sarnold> well, okay, maybe it's still fscking.. no need to panic just yet..
[00:31] <MoleMan2> getting a response to ping, but PuTTY is giving connection refused
[00:31] <sarnold> wait, IP address, that means fsck should be done.
[00:34] <MoleMan2> I'll just sit here and pretend its all fine
[00:35] <MoleMan2> I don't seem to have rejoined IRC either
[00:42] <MoleMan2> yeah, anything I try to connect with gives me connection refused. SSH, SFTP (yes, I know they're the same) FTP, HTTP generally can't connect...
[00:42] <sarnold> damn :(
[00:44] <MoleMan2> yeah
[00:45] <MoleMan2> the annoying thing is, just about the only TimeSensitive thing I'd have been bothered about restoring is the db for IRC, as the longer thats down the more I miss from the backlog etc, but my backup is a few weeks old, and I couldn't connect to back it up earlier before I rebooted
[02:03] <avoine> smoser: hey, I wanted to know if your lxc-clone-readme.sh patch are still working with the latest lxc version in the daily build ppa?
[02:03] <uronu> how windows connect to ldap server without using samba? I tried pgina I can login with my ldap account but can't go through to the desktop(BSOD or Hang Up). Is there a correct configuration of pgina?
[02:04] <avoine> because I've tried it and it looks like the extra arguments like --userdata are not pass to the ubuntu-cloud-prep hook
[03:33] <avoine> smoser: nevermind I found my bug
[05:24] <toabctl> zul: filled a bug report for the getenv/getent typo in debian/cinder-common.postinst (see lp:1224275)
[07:07] <tibor> hello everyone. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 server on cloud service and wanted to make a JEOS installation. However the boot selection doesnt offer minimal install option as mentioned on ubuntu docs for JEOS. is that normal or do you suspect something wrong with the ISO?
[07:08] <jpds> tibor: JEOS just been gone for a while.
[07:08] <jpds> tibor: Usually an image on a cloud service will be as miniminal as it gets.
[07:10] <tibor> ok great, thanks for the info
[07:28] <tibor> does anyone have experience with debconf?
[07:28] <tibor> im trying to do following             sudo debconf-set-selections <<< 'backup-manager	backup-manager upload-dir string /var/archives/uploads'
[07:29] <tibor> it sets the settings
[07:29] <tibor> but at apt-get install  it doesnt respect the value
[08:36] <foo357> Hello, I have a ubuntu server which is having some troubles due to having a full boot sector. Doing updates with apt-get can't be done.
[08:37] <tibor_> yes, would have to clean unused packages from boot sector
[08:38] <tibor_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1435818
[08:38] <tibor_> last line
[08:39] <tibor_> or here the first answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-to-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[08:40] <RockinRoel> I've been told on #ubuntu-bugs that this would be a good place to find a sponsor to merge the fix for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/openldap/+bug/1216650
[08:47] <foo357> I've got these linux image headers installed: http://pastebin.com/kd445GZj
[08:47] <foo357> How can I find out which ones are used?
[08:50] <tibor> uname -r
[08:51] <tibor> or you do it automatic
[08:51] <tibor> dpkg --get-selections|grep 'linux-image*'|awk '{print $1}'|egrep -v "linux-image-$(uname -r)|linux-image-generic" |while read n;do apt-get -y remove $n;done
[08:56] <foo357> tibor: ok, if I try to remove them through apt-get it complains about this: http://justpaste.it/ck4c should I just force it to continue?
[08:58] <tibor> yes go with apt-get -f install
[08:59] <tibor> ah but you probably cant run it because of lack of space
[09:00] <foo357> tibor: yes it fails, and adding --force-yes has no effect
[09:01] <foo357> tibor: can I somehow make it ignore those packages? "linux-server : Depends: linux-headers-server (= <IP_ADDRESS>.51) but <IP_ADDRESS>.63 is to be installed"
[09:06] <foo357> tibor: looks like the only option is to do some dirty manual removal
[09:06] <tibor> no you must remove it
[09:07] <tibor> did you try other suggestions from the links i posted?
[09:07] <foo357> tibor: maybe I can move the files of some old image header manually to free up enough space so that apt-get can do it's job sucessfully
[09:07] <tibor> both is fine
[09:07] <tibor> but manually removal doesnt change the grub settings and it will crash on reboot
[09:12] <foo357> tibor: all suggestions I see are using apt-get to remove stuff, but apt-get can't do anthing.
[09:13] <tibor> try apt-get autoremove (cleans up unused packages)
[09:15] <tibor> or u use dpkg to uninstall unused images (recommended, manual delete doesnt have all required steps) sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.28-11-server
[09:17] <tibor> or use aptitude: sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic-pae
[09:20] <foo357> tibor: ok I simply used dpkg instead
[09:24] <foo357> tibor: ok /boot is freed up some now. But I'm still having an issue with that server package.
[09:28] <foo357> tibor: http://pastebin.com/x18g7WF1
[09:34] <tibor> try                               apt-get install --reinstall linux-server
[09:35] <tibor> do you have PAE package (32bit with >4gb ram) or 64 bit server? or?
[09:42] <foo357> tibor: no it fails, giving the same error
[09:45] <foo357> tibor: PAE package?
[09:51] <foo357> tibor: this is a 64 bit server so I don't think PAE is installed.
[09:53] <tibor> good
[09:53] <tibor> shouldnt be
[09:58] <foo357> tibor: how can I fix the problem with 'linux-server' and 'linux-headers-server'?
[09:58] <tibor> cant you reinstall both?
[09:59] <tibor> hmm
[09:59] <tibor> or use dpkg to reinstall it?
[10:02] <foo357> tibor: reinstalling both with apt-get fails.
[10:03] <foo357> tibor: how should I use dpkg?
[10:30] <tibor> dpkg -i packagename
[10:46] <siberiannerd> should i also write a bug report if expert install from ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso was finished without warnings and after reboot i end up with grub's "error: file not found." ?
[10:47] <siberiannerd> that's somewhat obvious after fast checks that grub is broken
[10:47] <siberiannerd> same for alternate cd
[10:53] <rbasak> smoser: a thought. It would be really useful to me if /etc/issue listed eth0's address as standard on cloud images. Achieving this would involve overriding /etc/issue provided by base-files though. Do you think this would be useful to others?
[12:18] <smoser> rbasak, /etc/issue does not. but motd does, doesn't it?
[12:19] <rbasak> smoser: I think so. The annoying thing is that I need to log in to see the motd, and I often only have ssh access with cloud images. So it's an extra iteration to backdoor the image.
[12:20] <rbasak> smoser: btw, I have a new ubuntu-cloud-utils in my PPA awaiting build. I've taken care of all the packaging I think I can for now, so it's pretty much ready. Still plenty to do in the actual code, though.
[12:21] <smoser> rbasak. cloud-init writes network info to console
[12:22] <rbasak> smoser: remaining fixes to other packages needed: cloud-localds needs to be available in precise somehow, along with simplestreams of course. genisoimage needs to be depended on for cloud-localds (if that's not already done in upstream/saucy). simplestreams needs the gpg key packaged and working by default (not sure if you've done that already). THat's it I think.
[12:22] <rbasak> smoser: I can't necessarily always see the console. In my case, I can get VNC to the screen though.
[12:23] <smoser> you can tll cloud-init to write that to the screen. :)
[12:23] <rbasak> The TTY login clears it from the screen.
[12:23] <rbasak> So I end up with an instance that I would like to know the IP of, but have no way to find out.
[12:25] <rbasak> Given that: 1) cloud instances are generally ssh'd to only, with no password set; 2) this requires the IP, I think it would be useful. I can imagine a scenario where bare metal machines in a datacentre might have the same issue - an admin looks at the screen but can't log in that way because of the ssh key only requirement.
[12:25] <smoser> for 1. a cloud-instance writes its IP info to the console log.
[12:26] <smoser> for 2, i dont know.
[12:27] <smoser> i dont think it sounds like a terribly bad idea to have that information there.
[12:27] <rbasak> Yeah but the console log isn't always available. I think it makes sense to display IP information in multiple places so the admin can get it from where he needs to get it.
[12:28] <smoser> you'd hav to have some way to update /etc/issue.
[12:28] <rbasak> Yeah. That's a bit tricky.
[12:29] <rbasak> Perhaps from an if-up.d script, but it would need some coordination with base-files
[12:29] <smoser> well you could do it from the getty upstart job i think.
[12:29] <smoser> because i think thats just completely upstart managed.
[12:30] <smoser> ie, getty dies when you log out, and upstart starts it again
[12:31] <rbasak> Oh, that gives me an idea.
[12:31] <rbasak> PAM module.
[12:34] <smoser> rbasak, pam modules is how motd is updated.
[12:34] <smoser> but that requires login.
[12:35] <rbasak> I suppose another issue is that the IP could be out of date by the time it's ready. In theory.
[12:35] <rbasak> it's read
[12:35] <rbasak> Anyway, I intended that as an aside
[12:36] <rbasak> We need to sort out this cloud-utils/ubuntu-cloud-utils packaging
[12:36] <smoser> k.
[12:36] <rbasak> Do I need to create a new LP project?
[12:37] <rbasak> Or shall I leave it as a native package for now?
[12:51] <smoser> rbasak, i would do a new "upstream" for sure.
[12:52] <smoser> i know it seems like overhead.
[13:52] <Darkstar1> How can I increase the hard and soft limit for a user that doesn't have a shell?
[13:53] <Darkstar1> I tried editing the limits in limits.conf but that doesn't seem to work
[14:08] <psivaa> hallyn_: the lxc smoke tets for saucy is failing with similar issues as in bug 1207675 for the last two days. would help if you could take a look.
[14:13] <hallyn_> psivaa: trying to clear some final patches so we can merge 1.0-alpha1 into saucy.  let's wait and see if that merge resolves the issue
[14:14] <hallyn_> stgraber: setting up a test of dwight's monitor patch, hoping to send an ack in 15 ins
[14:14] <hallyn_> mins
[14:14] <psivaa> hallyn_: ack, thanks
[14:15] <stgraber> hallyn_: cool, thanks
[14:27] <JMichaelX>  i have a home server running ubuntu 12.04.3. it has 2 audio adapters, one is NVIDIA (digital), and the other is a c-media USB audio adapter. i configured alsa-base.conf to give index 0 to the USB adapter. audio is working, but i cannot adjust volume... using mpd or mocp, etc. any suggestions?
[14:37] <JMichaelX> would installing pulseaudio possibly fix this?
[15:18] <yolanda> adam_g https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charms/precise/gerrit/trunk/+merge/185289
[15:39] <smoser> hallyn_, trivial bug
[15:39] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1224545
[15:39] <smoser> biggest change will be not installing 'gdisk' when you apt-get install lxc.
[15:41] <hallyn_> smoser: that's only for saucy?
[15:42] <smoser> yeah
[15:42] <hallyn_> stgraber: ^ when you merge 1.0-a1, can you make that change?
[15:43] <stgraber> hallyn_: sure
[15:44] <hallyn_> thanks
[15:46] <stgraber> smoser: I'll actually go with "cloud-image-utils | cloud-utils" if that's not a problem since I like having the package backportable without a change to all releases >= precise
[15:46] <nuclearbob> stgraber: if you have a chance, can you point me to any documentation you might have on running nested lxc in raring?  I've seen the post you have for precise with the custom apparmor profile, and I'm having trouble figuring how to use the one that ships in raring
[15:47] <stgraber> nuclearbob: essentially the same thing as that blog post except that you don't need to write the custom profile and can just set lxc.aa_profile = lxc-container-default-with-nesting in the config and be done
[15:47] <smoser> stgraber, yeah, that makes fine sense.
[15:49] <nuclearbob> stgraber: if I just use lxc-default-with-nesting, I get No such file or directory, and if I use the full path in /etc, I get Permission denied - failed to change apparmor profile
[15:51] <stgraber> nuclearbob: look closely at what I wrote above :)
[15:51] <nuclearbob> stgraber: thanks.  I'm bad at details sometimes :)
[16:49] <toabctl> I have a problem with pinning on precise together with the ubuntu cloud archive.
[16:49] <toabctl> see http://paste.debian.net/38979/ for my setup
[16:50] <toabctl> the problem is that single package selection does not work
[16:53] <rbasak> smoser: I'm struggling to get a cloud image to dhcp with a client-id of anything other than "ubuntu". Any tips? Do you know if I'm supposed to be able to change this by messing with userdata/metadata?
[16:53] <smoser> you can't change it.
[16:54] <smoser> this should be motivation to do it right :)
[16:54] <rbasak> What's "right"?
[16:54] <smoser> controlling a dhcp server.
[16:54] <smoser> and giving mac:ip address mappings definitively.
[16:54] <rbasak> I was hoping to be able to get the IP address out of dnsmasq.
[16:55] <smoser> the reason you can't change 'ubuntu' is that 'ubuntu' is the hostname in /etc/hostname of the un-modified image.
[16:56] <smoser> dhclient comes up in parallel with cloud-init finding the non-network datasource that you're providing it with.
[16:56] <smoser> and 'hostname' has already been called from /etc/hostname, so dhclient reads hostname() and sends it.
[16:56] <smoser> then cloud-init reads your data, changes /etc/hostname, calls hostname(new-hostname)
[16:56] <smoser> but too late.
[16:57] <smoser> the system you're designing is exactly how azure publishes its hostname :)
[16:57] <smoser> in azure, cloud-init has to ifdown and ifup after it sets the hostname, so that a dhcp request with the hostname provided by the cloud platform can then cause dns entries to be updated.
[16:58] <rbasak> Hmm.
[16:58] <rbasak> I have two routes I'm considering then.
[16:59] <smoser> ie, azure says to instance: "Your hostname should be YYY".  And then instance says to Azure (via dhcp) "My hostname is XXX".
[16:59] <smoser> and *then* after that dhcp request, 'host XXX' will resolve
[16:59] <rbasak> dnsmasq doesn't have dbus methods to query the mapping, it seems, but does have dbus signals on lease issue. So I could set up a listener and watch for that I guess.
[16:59] <rbasak> (for the dnsmasq case)
[16:59] <smoser> so if XXX != YYY, then YYY does not resolve.
[16:59] <smoser> even though the cloud platform knew that in the first place!
[17:00] <rbasak> Or I can watch console output, but that interferes with debugging/the developer a bit since I don't see a way to send console output to more than one place
[17:00] <smoser> what info does the dbus request get?
[17:00] <smoser> one other way is to use a callback / post home.
[17:00] <smoser> but then you have to run a service
[17:00] <rbasak> THe dbus signal will get a (ip, mac, hostname) triple.
[17:00] <rbasak> (s/hostname/client-id/ I guess)
[17:01] <smoser> that seems nice.
[17:01] <rbasak> It would be nicer if I could query the internal lease database rather than watch for changes.
[17:01] <smoser> yeah. agreed.
[17:01] <smoser> doesn't it keep a leases file ?
[17:01] <smoser> that you could just read?
[17:02] <smoser> do you have to be priviledged to listen ?
[17:02] <rbasak> Ah, yes. I didn't see it on first glance.
[17:02] <rbasak> It's in /var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases.
[17:02] <rbasak> For a first iteration, I could just hack a parse of that.
[17:02] <rbasak> I'll leave space to add other mechanisms later
[17:05] <smoser> rbasak, would you have to be privledged to lisen to the dbus signals ?
[17:05] <rbasak> smoser: I'm not sure
[17:06] <rbasak> smoser: I was just reading /usr/share/doc/dnsmasq-base/DBus-interface.gz which has no further infromation.
[17:07] <smoser> yeah
[17:09] <rbasak> smoser: every method I can think of to get the IP seems suboptimal in some way. So I'm just going to support multiple methods, with the caller specifying the method, and a default method that I might change in the future. So I'll just do a read from /var/lib/libvirt/dnsmasq/default.leases as an initial hacky method that will get us by for now.
[17:10] <smoser> seems an easy enough format.
[17:10] <rbasak> Since I can ask libvirt for the instance's eth0 MAC, it should only break if the user isn't using dnsmasq or if the dnsmasq leases format changes somehow.
[17:11] <smoser> right.
[17:11] <rbasak> EOD. Much progress today. Almost everything jju needs is implemented now I think. With this and managing volume deletions better implemented, I think it'll be generally usable.
[17:37] <mgw> Are there any firewall rules I need to be aware of with lxc+macvlan?
[17:37] <mgw> I have a rule like this at the top of the container's iptables: -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[17:38] <mgw> but it's not catching established connections
[17:38] <mgw> instead it appears they're falling through to my last rule: -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[18:11] <adam_g> smb, around?
[19:44] <mgw> How can I load kernel modules inside an lxc container?
[19:45] <patdk-wk> you don't
[19:45] <mgw> I just discovered all the ipt_ modules are missing
[19:45] <mgw> ok, rather
[19:45] <mgw> how can I allow access?
[19:45] <patdk-wk> I don't believe you can
[19:45] <patdk-wk> load the modules on the host
[19:46] <mgw> hmm, maybe that's not my problem
[19:47] <mgw> i'm using macvlan networking
[19:47] <mgw> my —state RELATED,ESTABLISHED rule is not working
[19:47] <mgw> it works on the host though
[19:47] <mgw> but not in the container
[19:49] <mgw> patdk-wk: any idea what the problem might be?
[19:50] <mgw> I've tried both -m state and -m ctstate
[19:50] <mgw>     0     0 ACCEPT     all  --  *      *       <IP_ADDRESS>/0            <IP_ADDRESS>/0            ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED
[20:57] <mgw> any ideas why a rule like "iptables -m state —state RELATED,ESTABLISHED" is getting ignored inside an lxc container?
[21:05] <tom_ilsinszki_> I've installed the command line dropbox client and it works fine if I start it manually, however it is stuck on "Uploading…" if it is started on boot using the init.d script. I've followed this guide when installing: http://ubuntuservergui.com/ubuntu-server-guide/install-dropbox-ubuntu-server
[21:05] <tom_ilsinszki_> How should I find out what's preventing Dropbox from starting up properly?
[21:09]  * genii sips and ponders whether to trust a site named ubuntuservergui
[22:22] <gartral> hey all, what would cause a working, stable server's fs t suddenly go read-only?
[22:24] <gartral> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6099132/
[22:27] <zotta> Is there any reason why someone would use a perl script to fetch the exact same static html file every 30 minutes using a perl script?
[22:28] <sarnold> zotta: it'd give the html server an indication of when the client is alive and on the network..
[22:29] <zotta> Ok yes
[22:29] <zotta> but it's some stranger doing it
[22:30] <sarnold> maybe he intends to help you maintain the server? :)
[22:30] <sarnold> "hey zotta, it's me, looks like your server is down.."
[22:31] <zotta> that'd be strange
[22:35] <sarnold> hehe, yes :)
[22:56] <adam_g> roaksoax, around?
[23:49] <mgw1> ok, so i've been messing with macvlan stuff all day, I finally have something working properly, but not the way I want it. I want to host both lxc containers and kvm guests on the same host
[23:50] <mgw1> I'm working, at the moment, with a vlan interface — bond0.400
[23:51] <mgw1> I need a bridge associated with that vlan interface, for libvirt to use… but I also need to use bond0.400 as the link for my containers' macvlans
[23:52] <mgw1> however, using bond0.400 when there's a bridge generates an error (device or resource busy)
[23:52] <mgw1> and using the bridge itself as the link creates the problems with iptables I spent all day fighting with


[02:07] <cmaloney> Evening
[04:46] <rick_h_> evening if anyone's still around
[04:46] <rick_h_> probably not I guess
[04:47] <greg-g> me!
[04:47] <greg-g> rick_h_: saw the photos, good job
[04:47] <rick_h_> greg-g: oh hey fellow west coaster
[04:48] <greg-g> :)
[04:48] <rick_h_> greg-g: ty, was a lot of fun
[04:48] <rick_h_> and nice walk back across the bridge and such
[04:48] <rick_h_> watch says 25.9k steps today phew
[04:48] <rick_h_> and some 2200 photos since Friday :/
[04:48] <greg-g> WOW
[04:49] <rick_h_> yea, crazy time
[04:49] <rick_h_> haven't even made it to yosemite yet
[04:49] <rick_h_> might just have to pass out under a tree there
[04:50] <greg-g> when is that?
[04:50] <rick_h_> tomorrow, pick up a rental car and head out to a cabin just south of the park until sat
[04:50] <greg-g> sweet
[04:51] <rick_h_> time to get out of this city :P
[04:51] <greg-g> yes, yes it is
[13:18] <cmaloney> Good morning
[13:19] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Love the photos you're taking. :)
[13:19] <cmaloney> all:I'll be late for CHC tonight. Working with one car until Thursday.
[13:19] <mrgoodcat> hey hey
[13:19] <cmaloney> and J gets priority. :)
[13:19] <mrgoodcat> i won't be at CHC again
[13:19] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: WAAAAAAAHHHHH
[13:19] <cmaloney> What happened?
[13:20] <mrgoodcat> my mom is bipolar and is having a difficult time these past few weeks
[13:21] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: So this is a temp. thing (in as much as you have any say in this understandably)
[13:22] <cmaloney> (also: if you need help, or somewhere to crash to recoup LMK)
[13:22] <mrgoodcat> yea. i'll be able to start coming to meetings again eventually
[13:23] <jrwren> Flying J?
[13:23] <mrgoodcat> truck stop?
[13:23] <jrwren> that is me. :)
[13:23] <cmaloney> You're a truck stop now?
[13:24] <cmaloney> God, I hope you at least clean the urinals more than once a week
[13:24] <wolfger> heh
[13:41] <brousch> cmaloney: Is your Go broken?
[13:47] <cmaloney> No, I've been trying to concentrate on other things. :)
[13:47] <cmaloney> (whoops)
[13:47] <cmaloney> I have it email me whenever you take your turn but I didn't go back to check last night.
[13:47] <brousch> Good. That will make you easier to beat.
[13:48] <cmaloney> Thine trash talking is duly noted. :)
[14:14] <wolfger> It's 2014, and I just confused an IT worker by saying something happened "while I was AFK". Didn't know what AFK meant.
[14:14] <brousch> AFT
[14:14] <wolfger> Now my father, who shuns the 21st century entirely, I would expect that from... but an IT worker?
[14:14] <brousch> Away from touchscreen
[14:15] <wolfger> Touchscreens... bah. Get off my lawn!
[14:16] <brousch> If your phone is with you, you are not truly away from keyboard
[14:17] <jrwren> what is AFT?
[14:17] <jrwren> hahaha... touchscreen? really?
[14:17] <jrwren> oh.. tablet.
[14:17] <jrwren> AFT.
[14:18] <brousch> Doesn't everyone work on a touchscreen now?
[14:24] <jrwren> no
[14:24] <jrwren> Steve Jobs said that a touchscreen has no place on a laptop.
[14:25] <wolfger> even touch screens have "keyboards"
[14:26] <wolfger> horribly inefficient keyboards
[16:51] <cmaloney> http://www.ebay.com/itm/121421093802
[16:51] <cmaloney> Gah, bookiebot is awol as well.
[17:01] <greg-g> cmaloney: that's "acceptable"?
[17:01] <cmaloney> I think it's rubbish.
[17:16] <mrgoodcat> oh is he?
[17:19] <cmaloney> I meant the ebay auction was rubbish
[17:26] <brousch> By denition
[17:26] <brousch> definition
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> i meant is he gone
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> i already know he's rubbish
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> :)
[17:48] <wolfger> harsh
[17:51] <cmaloney> bah. :)
[17:52] <cmaloney> bookiebot: I still love you.
[17:52] <cmaloney> .echo I love you too.
[17:52] <bookiebot> I love you too.
[17:52] <cmaloney> ;)
[18:05] <wolfger> some times I think management is spending more manhours coming up with things to keep me busy than I am spending manhours being productive....
[18:07] <cmaloney> Welcome to business 101
[18:07] <jrwren> if the things add value, then its a good thing.
[18:09]  * cmaloney just put new pads on his headphones that he had when he was at Chrysler.
[18:23] <jrwren> <3 new headphone pads
[18:38] <cmaloney> There should be a statute of limitations on hospital bills
[18:39] <cmaloney> got one for FIL's visit at the end of May
[18:41] <brousch> insurance can take a long time to resolve things


 I am done with IRC for good now as i go to college in september
[01:49] <bazhang> good luck in school
[01:49] <HFSPLUS> First time in 3 years after being a drop out in high school
[01:49] <bazhang> please /part the channel
[01:49] <HFSPLUS> sure
[02:17] <elky> bilbo baggins has apologised in PM and i've unbanned him from -ot. if he behaves there, ikonia might consider the #u ban.
[03:40] <bazhang> bilbo is shown as still banned in #ubuntu (in the BT)
[03:41] <bazhang> * Bilbo_Ba2gins<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu  <-- yet
[03:43] <bazhang> could be innocent; I asked him to part the channel and he did so
[03:51] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> Hello all.  I do not know what is going on.  My nick is randomly changing.  This is not my doing.
[03:52] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> I do bow to every ban in place......and I apologize
[03:52] <bazhang> Bilbo_Ba2gins, you can set in your client, also ask for help in #freenode to group alternate nicks and register if you wish
[03:52] <bazhang> Bilbo_Ba2gins, I dont see ikonia as being active right now
[03:53] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> That I am aware of, anyway.  I did not set it in my client.  Oh, and I do have a brother.  So don't call me a liar.
[03:53] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> If I was, I wouldn't have left willing from your channels.
[03:54] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> My name is registered as Bilbo_Baggins
[03:54] <bazhang> Bilbo_Ba2gins, well he seems to be away; you can retry later (you are unbanned in #ubuntu-offtopic however)
[03:55] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> Period.  I do know know what is going on.  If I wanted to evade your ban, I'd do it with a HELL of a lot more suave.
[03:55] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> And Thank you for the information on that.  :)
[03:55] <bazhang> Bilbo_Ba2gins, you are welcome
[03:55] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> Do not know
[03:55] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> Is what I meant, I do NOT know what is going on.  and I am sincere.
[03:56] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> I have my nick set in irssi config?  WTF....Time to read the file....
[03:56] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> again.  God, this is getting irritating.
[03:56] <bazhang> please watch the language Bilbo_Ba2gins
[03:56] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> What did I say?
[03:57] <bazhang> if there is nothing further, please retry later (ie dont idle here)
[03:57] <Bilbo_Ba2gins> WTF?? or God?  I will.
[05:53] <Flannel> ubottu died
[06:34] <Flannel> Blargh
[06:35] <nalioth> Blegh!
[06:40] <Flannel> Myrtti: No bot
[06:41] <nalioth> no bot?
[06:41] <nalioth> OH NOES
[06:42] <elky> bazhang, um... i unbanned him in -offtoppic
[06:42] <elky> bazhang, i announced it in this very channel
[06:42] <nalioth> the lazy bot should be here momentarily
[06:43] <Flannel> what about the non-lazy one?
[06:43] <Flannel> we want one that knows how to work!
[06:50] <elky> ah, for #u. just fix the ban to cover the bilbo_ bit, the rest is what changes, and it's numerically incremental so i'm not at all doubting it's unintentional
[07:01] <nalioth> no bot yet?
[07:02] <nalioth> hmm, something is slowing it down somewhere
[07:03] <bazhang> elky, yes I know
[07:04] <bazhang> which is why I said it seemed innocent
[07:24] <Flannel> Freenode exploding right now?
[07:25] <Flannel> Anyone alive?
[07:26] <bazhang> seems to be
[07:26] <nalioth> OH NO IT"S AN UNIDENTIFIED FLANNNEL!
[07:26] <bazhang> haha
[07:26] <nalioth> Flannel: where did you take our services?
[07:27] <Flannel> nalioth: I took them to me to the small server I suppose
[07:27] <Flannel> after 14 minutes of no unsplitting, I figured it was maybe time to get out of dodge
[07:30] <Flannel> nalioth: Not just an unidentified flannel, but an unidentified flannel operator! (UFO)
[07:31] <Flannel> Who is going to use this down time to reboot and grab a new kernel!
[07:37] <Flannel> So, I suppose rebooting my server fixed services!
[07:46] <bazhang> troll in -ot
[08:49] <padd1> er...
[08:49] <padd1> am I banned?
[08:49] <padd1> every time I try to go to #ubuntu
[08:49] <padd1> it takes me here
[08:51] <padd1> how can I check?
[08:51] <padd1> !ban padd1
[08:53] <padd1> anyone there?
[08:53] <padd1> hello?
[08:58] <Gary> padd1: if you are being forwarded here, instead of #ubuntu, then yes you are banforwarded
[08:58] <padd1> why?
[08:58] <padd1> I didn't do anything?
[08:58] <padd1> can U tell me why im banned?
[08:58] <Gary> I have no idea, I am not an op in that channel
[08:59] <Gary> if you hang here for a bit hopefully one will pop along who can help you, or leave this channel (as the topic suggests) and i'll chase it for you so you can check in later on today for an answer?
[09:02] <padd1> OK
[09:02] <padd1> thanks
[09:03] <padd1> is there some way a bot can tell me?
[09:03] <Gary> nope
[09:03] <padd1> hmm...
[09:03] <padd1> why is everyone off?
[09:03] <padd1> they all in one timezone?
[09:03] <Gary> timezones I assume, plus it is sunday
[09:03] <padd1> true
[09:04] <padd1> hmm... this is annoying
[09:04] <padd1> I have questions to ask
[09:04] <padd1> and i didn't do anything
[09:04] <Gary> so if you pop off for a bit, give it a few hours, if I see one i'll ask about your banforward, sounds good?
[09:05] <Gary> not much can happen in the meantime so us talking about it won't help much
[09:06] <padd1> k
[09:06] <padd1> thanks
[09:06] <padd1> can I just wait here?
[09:06] <padd1> I'm just hanging around the net anyway
[09:06] <Gary> best not to padd1 they like to have a no idle policy
[09:07] <padd1> I thought that was like if U havent been banned
[09:07] <padd1> wouldn't it be faster to wait
[09:07] <padd1> its not really idle
[09:07] <padd1> hmm... wats with the non-ops down in the channel?
[09:08] <padd1> they're always on...
[09:08] <padd1> are they something special?
[09:09] <Mamarok> padd1: those people are *all* operators, so please do not idle
[09:11] <ikonia> ahhh hello
[09:11] <ikonia> padd1: I've forwarded you here
[09:12] <ikonia> padd1: do you remember the agreement you made with the operators in here when you where last unbanned, about not being a problem, not being rude, not messaging around etc ?
[09:15] <ikonia> padd1: if you don't want to respond at this time, please respect the no-idle policy off the channel
[09:15] <ikonia> !idle | padd1
[09:17] <ikonia> padd1: please come back to the channel when you are in a better position to talk
[09:17] <padd1> sorry
[09:17] <ikonia> ahhh, no problem
[09:17] <ikonia> you are active
[09:17] <padd1> I just came back
[09:17] <padd1> went to get a drink
[09:17] <ikonia> no problem
[09:17] <padd1> sorry, again
[09:17] <ikonia> it's fine
[09:17] <padd1> umm... can U take a look at my ban
[09:18] <ikonia> padd1: do you remember the agreement you made with the operators of this channel about how to behave in the #ubuntu channels ?
[09:18] <padd1> yes
[09:18] <padd1> why?
[09:18] <padd1> I didn't do anything
[09:18] <padd1> did someone use my username?
[09:18] <ikonia> ok - well, I've ban forwaraded you here, as since the ban has been lifted you've been sending me private messages such as "in your face" every time you sign in,
[09:18] <ikonia> that's not the spirit of what you agreed to, and I'd like you to explain yourself please.
[09:19] <padd1> er...
[09:19] <padd1> that was my friend
[09:19] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[09:19] <padd1> k
[09:19] <padd1> sorry
[09:19] <padd1> umm...
[09:19] <ikonia> why lie ?
[09:19] <padd1> er...
[09:19] <padd1> that was a long time ago
[09:19] <ikonia> no it wasn't
[09:19] <padd1> I've forgotten
[09:19] <padd1> It was like a week ago
[09:19] <ikonia> it was 3 days ago and you'd been doing it for days before that
[09:19] <padd1> huh
[09:20] <padd1> I did it once
[09:20] <ikonia> no you didn't
[09:20] <padd1> hmm...
[09:20] <padd1> I'm pretty sure I did
[09:20] <ikonia> you sent me other messages like "you lose!"
[09:20] <Mamarok> padd1: he has logs
[09:20] <padd1> yes
[09:20] <padd1> I realise that
[09:20] <padd1> I'm sorry
[09:20] <Mamarok> so you better do not lie
[09:20] <padd1> yeah
[09:20] <padd1> i've honestly forgotten
[09:20] <ikonia> so I'll ask you again - why after agreeing to control your behaviour, did you feel that sort of behaviour was acceptable ?
[09:20] <padd1> it's been a pretty hectic few days
[09:21] <padd1> no I did not
[09:21] <ikonia> you did not what ?
[09:21] <padd1> I do not feel it was acceptable
[09:21] <padd1> I was just really annoyed that it took so long
[09:21] <ikonia> ok - then why did you do it straight after your ban was lifted
[09:21] <padd1> to get my ban released
[09:21] <ikonia> really, so your way of dealing with the operators who lifted your ban is to send them stupid messages ?
[09:22] <ikonia> does that really sound like a good plan ?
[09:22] <padd1> sorry
[09:22] <ikonia> then when quizzed about it you lie about it ?
[09:22] <ikonia> does this really sound like the agreement you made to get your ban lifted ?
[09:22] <padd1> I didn't realise U were an operator
[09:22] <ikonia> what does that matter ?
[09:22] <padd1> lie about it
[09:22] <ikonia> you shouldn't do it to anyone
[09:22] <padd1> yes
[09:22] <padd1> I was just angry
[09:22] <ikonia> so if I'm not an operator, it's ok to lie to me and send me stupid messages ?
[09:22] <padd1> because, U were slowing the process down
[09:22] <padd1> lie to you?
[09:23] <padd1> I did not lie to U
[09:23] <padd1> I have forgotten the amount of times I did it
[09:23] <ikonia> yes, when I asked you about sending the messages, you said you didn't it was someone else
[09:23] <ikonia> then you said you only did it once
[09:23] <ikonia> that's telling lies
[09:23] <padd1> no
[09:23] <padd1> let's take a look
[09:23] <padd1> one moment
[09:23] <padd1> 18:18:42) ikonia: ok - well, I've ban forwaraded you here, as since the ban has been lifted you've been sending me private messages such as "in your face" every time you sign in,
[09:24] <padd1> I have not signed in for a while
[09:24] <ikonia> so ?
[09:24] <padd1> so, I thought that perhaps this was happening
[09:24] <ikonia> how does that change anything
[09:24] <padd1> since I have been on like 2 times or something since the ban was lifted
[09:24] <padd1> this explains that I was not lying
[09:24] <padd1> just confused
[09:24] <ikonia> each time you sign in you send me a message
[09:24] <padd1> k
[09:24] <padd1> but, U make it sound like a whole lot of times
[09:25] <padd1> but, it was only 2 times
[09:25] <ikonia> 2 - 3 times
[09:25] <padd1> on the same night
[09:25] <ikonia> no
[09:25] <ikonia> it wasn't the same night
[09:25] <padd1> k
[09:25] <ikonia> I let the first night go, - I forwarded you here after it continued over multiple nights
[09:25] <padd1> I don't have the logs
[09:25] <padd1> K
[09:25] <padd1> I'll have to take ur word for it
[09:26] <padd1> I wasn't on this computer
[09:26] <padd1> plus, what does this have to do with #ubuntu?
[09:26] <padd1> so...
[09:26] <padd1> where are we getting at?
[09:26] <ikonia> well, I'll cut to the chase, because of your behaviour straight after you ban was lifted, I've forwarded you here so you can take some time out of ubuntu to understand the consiquences of your actions, as your current ban will last longer, while you consider your future behaviour
[09:26] <padd1> I don't believe this is right
[09:27] <padd1> come on
[09:27] <padd1> I was annoyed
[09:27] <padd1> joking
[09:27] <padd1> it is not offensive
[09:27] <ikonia> thats fine, you are welcome to your opinion, but the fact is, you where banned for behaviour, you made an agreement to control it, and you on multiple nights decided to pester me with stupid messages
[09:27] <padd1> And, I don't recall a second night
[09:28] <ikonia> so take a little time out to think about when you make an agreement to behave, stick to it
[09:28] <padd1> umm...
[09:28] <padd1> where is the #ubuntu rule that prevents me from entering
[09:28] <padd1> it does not cover PMs
[09:28] <padd1> this is corrupt
[09:28] <Mamarok> padd1: of course it does cover PMs
[09:29] <padd1> no
[09:29] <ikonia> again - that's your opinion, but your behaviour in private to people in the ubuntu channel does count inpm
[09:29] <padd1> only freenode has control over that
[09:29] <Mamarok> why would it be acceptable to be a nuisance in PM? This is the same network you are using
[09:29] <padd1> I was not in the #ubuntu channel
[09:29] <Mamarok> so the network rules aplly to PM as well
[09:29] <padd1> when I PMed
[09:29] <padd1> No
[09:29] <ikonia> padd1: no, I believe your pestering me in pm and gloating over your ban removal is in contradiction to your agreement in behave in the #ubuntu channel
[09:29] <padd1> U don't own the network
[09:29] <Gary> padd1: as far as I can see, the conversation in here is done with, best to give it a while, say a week with good behaviour, and then ask again (nicely) for the ban to be lifted.  in the meantime it'd be best to part this channel
[09:29] <Mamarok> padd1: you were on the freenode network, that's what matters
[09:29] <ikonia> hence why I forwarded you here
[09:29] <ikonia> Gary: exactly
[09:29] <padd1> k
[09:30] <padd1> where are the freenode ops
[09:30] <Gary> padd1: please don't make me have to put on my staffer hat here...
[09:30] <padd1> they can decide
[09:30] <padd1> sorry Gary
[09:30] <Mamarok> padd1: Gary is a Freenode staffer
[09:30] <padd1> oh...
[09:30] <ikonia> padd1: freenode do not run this channel, so I suggest taking some time out to think about it as Gary suggested
[09:30] <padd1> OK
[09:30] <padd1> ikonia
[09:30] <ikonia> thank you
[09:30] <padd1> how long will the ban last
[09:31] <ikonia> lets talk again in a week
[09:31] <padd1> I've got a really nagging question about upgrading my RAM
[09:31] <padd1> please
[09:31] <padd1> or do U know?
[09:31] <ikonia> I'm sorry no, you have to accept there are consiquences for your actions, more so the second time around
[09:31] <padd1> can I ask my question here?
[09:31] <ikonia> no
[09:31] <padd1> OK
[09:32] <ikonia> padd1: I suggest you take some time out now,
[09:32] <padd1> k
[09:32] <padd1> damnit
[09:32] <Mamarok> oh, cursing now?
[09:32] <padd1> cursing
[09:32] <padd1> no im not
[09:32] <ikonia> padd1: if you could leave the channel now, we'll talk again in week
[09:33] <padd1> OK
[09:33] <ikonia> thanks
[09:33] <padd1> see you guys
[09:33] <ikonia> bye
[09:33] <padd1> I probs wont be back for like 6 mths though
[09:33] <ikonia> ok
[09:33] <padd1> this is one of the few times of the year I get the chance
[09:33] <ikonia> ok
[09:33] <padd1> and it seems that every time
[09:33] <ikonia> padd1: please leave the channel now
[09:33] <padd1> Ur the one who stops me from getting my fun
[09:33] <padd1> Fuck U ikonia
[09:33] <ikonia> ok
[09:33] <padd1> lol
[09:34] <padd1> bye
[09:34] <ikonia> bye
[09:34] <padd1> i'll leave by myself
[09:34] <ikonia> Gary: thank you
[09:34] <Mamarok> gah, what an idiotic kid
[09:34] <ikonia> ahhh gary knows all to well he changes nick, slick
[09:35] <Gary> abuse to opers is something I will not stand for
[09:35] <Gary> ikonia: let me know if he continues please
[09:35] <ikonia> I can't see it continuing, but I sure will
[09:36] <Mamarok> well, school begins next week in Australia, doesn't it?
[09:36] <elky> it begins tomorrow, yes
[09:36] <Mamarok> which will clean the network a bit I guess
[09:37]  * ikonia thanks a higher being
[09:37] <Mamarok> all those kids not being around anymore
[09:37] <elky> considering every second troll at the moment is aussie, yes.
[09:37] <Mamarok> ikonia: you than the Australian school boards? funny :)
[09:37] <ikonia> elky: yes, it has been a .au rampage latley
[09:43] <ikonia> silly child ban evading as linuxtux121
[09:44] <Gary> or not ban evading!
[09:44] <ikonia> now trying Killer12Qet
[09:45] <ikonia> now qwertytruck
[09:45] <Mamarok> almost funny
[09:45] <Gary> and that is why I set an ip ban
[09:46] <ikonia> yup, he's pm'ing me again, I'm just ignoring it now after I stated it would not be discussed more until a week later
[09:46] <Gary> ikonia: can you log it though
[09:46] <ikonia> yup
[09:46] <ikonia> here or direct
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:43 <linuxtux121> how'd U know?
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:43 <linuxtux121> my IP or my question?
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:43 <linuxtux121> Can I please just ask it
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:43 <linuxtux121> I'll be quick
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:43 <linuxtux121> then U can ban me all U want
[09:47] <ikonia> 09:44 <linuxtux121> ignored yet again
[09:47] <Gary> I was going to say via pastebin :p
[09:48] <ikonia> sorry
[09:48] <ikonia> was only a few lines
[09:50] <Gary> I don't mind, I was thinking more of your other ops, they might not like you spamming the channel :p
[09:50] <ikonia> they can take it
[09:50] <ikonia> they are hard
[09:51]  * Mamarok is teflon coated
[09:51] <Gary> I'm covered in marshmallows
[09:51] <Flannel> Mmmm, delicious.
[09:52]  * ikonia licks Gary
[09:52] <Mamarok> can we grill you?
[09:52] <ikonia> he he, padd1, now trying cooltux
[09:52]  * Mamarok hides
[09:52] <Mamarok> not cool :)
[10:15] <elky> ikonia, i take it he's not considering the forums as plausible?
[10:18] <Gary> SiLv3R is being offtopic, nice
[10:19] <Gary> and icarus - macfags, nice
[11:16] <iceroot> hi, the bot in #ubuntu is missing
[11:19] <Myrtti> we are aware
[11:20] <iceroot> ok
[11:21] <ikonia> elky: to be %100 honest, I forgot to offer him the forums
[11:24] <Myrtti> iceroot: anything else we can help you with?
[11:25] <iceroot> Myrtti: thats all :)
[11:26] <iceroot> have a nice day/night (depending on your time-zone)
[11:31] <Myrtti> would someone try to restart the bot?
[11:41] <elky> oh this will be interesting
[11:41] <elky> see #u
[11:41] <ikonia> Bacta ?
[11:41] <elky> ya
[11:42] <elky> he's baiting to see if ops are around
[11:42] <ikonia> well, they are
[11:43] <ikonia> hello Bacta, what's up ?
[11:43] <Bacta> Hi
[11:43] <ikonia> how can we help ?
[11:44] <Bacta> Sorry, I don't know how I got to this channel ... Might've been an autojoin on my other box
[11:44] <Bacta> sorry
[11:44] <ikonia> don't talk nonsense
[11:44] <ikonia> you've been in #php and #ubuntu now for a while, so your auto join didn't bring you here
[11:45] <ikonia> unless you need something from the operators of #ubuntu - it is requested that you leave the channel so that someone who needs help is not ignored.
[11:45] <ikonia> Do you want/need anything ?
[11:45] <ikonia> thank you
[11:46] <elky> just so you know, i've tried to restart the bot, but it's not playing ball
[11:46] <ikonia> it's been funny all week
[11:47] <elky> because people have been poking it with new code and bug fixes all week
[11:48] <ikonia> oh really, didn't know it was update blizt
[13:07] <[Green]> hi
[13:14] <bazhang> A4Tech, hi
[13:14] <A4Tech> bazhang hello
[13:15] <[Green]> bazhang: hi
[13:15] <bazhang> A4Tech, about #ubuntu? or -ru?
[13:15] <A4Tech> bazhang -ru
[13:15] <bazhang> A4Tech, lets discuss in #ubuntu-irc okay?
[13:15] <A4Tech> bazhang ok
[13:30] <jrib> ubottu died?
[13:32] <bazhang> yep
[13:38] <elky> jrib, doesnt want to be brought back either.
[13:38] <jrib> his brother coming?
[13:50] <elky> dunno.
[13:50] <elky> jpds, if you're hiding there, can you throw a bot in #u for a bit please?
[13:53] <jrib> nice e-mail from this I.P. Daily guy
[13:55] <elky> oh, didn't see that
[14:25] <ikonia> what a fool
[14:37] <Gary> that made me giggle
[14:37] <Gary> nice to see trolling on a ML, beats irc
[14:40] <elky> Gary, you're not on the devel list i take it?
[14:43] <Gary> nope
[14:51] <elky> the boycottnovell trolls have been having an absolute riot on there lately with the mono controversies
[14:55] <elky> ok, i've just banforwarded ubottu from -irc to #u
[14:55] <elky> kicked and banlifted successfully
[14:55] <Myrtti> it has the stomachbug
[14:56] <elky> no kiddin
[15:12] <jussi01> wth...
[15:13] <elky> it's choking on something and refusing to identify is all i can figure
[15:13] <jussi01> ubottu doesnt seem to be running...
[15:14] <Myrtti> so, what bot it is then that's on the channels :-D
[15:14] <elky> * [ubottu] (n=supybot@oul131-gw12.netplaza.fi): Supybot 0.83.3
[15:15] <Myrtti> it got ghosted earlier by something
[15:15] <Myrtti> oo, toes went numb
[15:16] <jussi01> weird. seemed to be running from jussi01.com...
[15:17] <jussi01> ok, should be on its way back.
[15:24] <Myrtti> elky: could it be possible someone used the revival script on jussi01.com instead of ubottu.com?
[15:25] <Myrtti> (jussi01 ran out of mojo in his uberleet 3G laptop)
[15:25] <elky> Myrtti, possible. that's the one that showed up in my history, i might have used that. however this was after it had been dead for 8h
[15:25] <Myrtti> weird that is
[17:11] <Pici> jussi01: perhaps someone should get rid of/move the killbot script on jussi01.com
[17:43] <Myrtti> wth happened to the bot again
[17:45] <elky> no clue
[17:45]  * Myrtti prods jussi01
[18:22] <jrib> I'm going to put my bot into #ubuntu
[18:22] <jrib> jribot, feel free to mute if he gets annoying
[18:22] <jrib> should just be like ubottu though he responds to - as commands
[18:22] <nalioth> jrib: i'd not do it, then
[18:22] <jrib> Ok, let me turn it off
[18:22] <nalioth> everyone is used to ! for command prefixes
[18:22] <jrib> it works with !
[18:23] <elky> jrib, it needs to be something starting with 'ubot' and uses !s
[18:23] <nalioth> ah
[18:23] <jrib> just supybot commands are listened to on -
[18:23] <nalioth> nobody will need to use supybot commands
[18:23] <elky> jrib, does it also pipe?
[18:23] <jrib> should
[18:23] <jrib> though it's a few months old
[18:23] <jrib> hold on let me make the changes
[18:26] <jrib> !test
[18:26] <ubotjrib> sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.
[18:26] <jrib> -aoeurchaoeurh
[18:26] <ubotjrib> jrib: Error: "aoeurchaoeurh" is not a valid command.
[18:26] <jrib> should be okay?
[18:26] <Myrtti> whut?
[18:27] <Myrtti> where did it pull the aoeurchaoeurh is not a valid command thing
[18:27] <jrib> it listens to - for supybot commands
[18:27] <jrib> I can't find the setting for that at the moment
[18:27] <jrib> If it becomes an issue I'll look for it
[19:37] <jpds> elky: Sorry, was miles away from here...
[19:38] <elky> jpds, wanna rescue ubottu somehow, or figure what the heck was done to it?
[19:39] <jpds> elky: Sorry, don't have access to its box.
[19:40] <jpds> I see jrib has thrown in a bot already, /kicks out ubot4.
[19:48] <elky> Myrtti, /me looks at -ot
[19:48] <elky> one has to wonder...
[20:30] <Myrtti> gnaa
[21:04] <topyli> agreed
[22:04] <jussi01_> Ok, Im around now. ubottu should be on the way back. not sure what happened there...
[22:04] <Myrtti> wohey!
[22:06] <Mamarok> jussi01_ !
[22:06] <jussi01_> and there she is...
[22:06] <Myrtti> THERE SHE COMES TO SAVE THE DAY
[22:07] <jussi01_> !test
[22:07] <ubotjrib> sigh... again? I'm busy here, I already told you it failed.
[22:07] <jussi01_> still syncing...
[22:08] <jussi01_> and there we are
[22:09] <jussi01_> !windows
[22:09] <ubotjrib> For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents
[22:13]  * jrib welcomes back ubottu
[22:14] <jussi01_> thanks for the fill in jrib. today was the last day my girlfriend was in town, so Ive been somewhat preoccupied... :D
[22:14] <jrib> jussi01_: understandable :)
[22:15] <jussi01_> jrib: yeps :D
[22:16] <jrib> hrmm, I just consumed 160% of my recommended daily value of saturated fat
[22:19] <jussi01_> topyli: prod! you around_
[22:20]  * jrib makes mental note not to make it a frequent occurence
[22:23] <jussi01_> nalioth: and Seeker`  should have enough access to run the bot start script in an emergency. / as well as tsimpson and myself of course.
[22:33] <jussi01> yippeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:33] <jussi01> my main PC is back up and working!!
[22:33] <rww> G'day operator peoples! I was wandering through http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ just now and noticed http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/07/26/paddy_melon.html . Did a troll PM your logbot or something?
[22:35] <jussi01> rww: Im not sure what caused that.
[22:36] <jussi01> Im trying to remember who controls the logbot, perhaps ubuntu-eu. in any case, its worth a look into. thanks
[22:36] <rww> no problem. thanks for your time :)
[23:05] <Amaranth> gah
[23:05] <Amaranth> I keep getting disconnected from xbox live
[23:06] <Amaranth> i was kicking butt in team DM too :/
[23:06] <Amaranth> camped near the assault rifle behind a highway divider
[23:06] <Amaranth> !ping
[23:06] <Amaranth> whoops, wrong channel anyway :P
[23:20] <Gary> aww, I was just getting interesting in the story too


[19:34] <kees> is 16.10 still expected to be a v4.8 kernel?
[19:38] <rtg> kees, yes. whats up with KASLR ? I've got your bug at the top of my list.
[19:39] <rtg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1573848
[19:39] <kees> rtg: what would you like to know? v4.8 lands fixes to hibernation to support KASLR, so if v4.8 goes into 16.10, that bug can go away. ;)
[19:39] <kees> (that bug has some hilarious new attachments too)
[19:39] <rtg> kees, cool, that is easy then
[19:40] <rtg> I noticed those this morning
[19:43] <kees> okay, so the plan is still for v4.8?
[19:43] <kees> I'd like to recommend two new configs: HARDENED_USERCOPY and RANDOMIZE_MEMORY
[19:44] <kees> well, maybe three. how about SLAB_FREELIST_RANDOM too
[19:44] <rtg> kees, I've got RANDOMIZE_MEMORY=y, but don't see HARDENED_USERCOPY yet.
[19:45] <rtg> debian.master/config/config.common.ubuntu:CONFIG_SLAB_FREELIST_RANDOM=y
[19:46] <kees> and, if you haven't, can you pick up Debian's patch to perf? https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/1/11/587  upstream doesn't like it, but Android and Debian ship with this as perf's attack surface is kind of huge
[19:46] <kees> rtg: HARDENED_USERCOPY and RANDOMIZE_MEMORY got merged in the last week or so when the v4.8 merge window opened.
[19:47] <rtg> kees, ok, my unstable repo is only at 4.8-rc1
[19:47] <kees> gotcha
[19:47] <kees> these should appear when rc2 gets cut
[19:48] <rtg> kees, as for the perf patch, please start a bug and assign me to it so it doesn't get lost.
[19:48] <kees> okay, cool
[19:57] <kees> rtg: opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1612790
[19:57] <rtg> kees, thanks


[15:22] <smatzek> Forgive me if this was covered previous.  Based on what I see for reviews and some looking at this IRC history, it appears cloud-init v2 is being developed in the http://git.openstack.org/cgit/stackforge/cloud-init/ community and the 0.7.x versions are developed and will continue to be maintained in Bazaar?
[17:15] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, what does I AM A CONTRIBOR mean ?
[17:16] <smoser> smatzek, your statement above is generally correct.
[17:16] <kwadronaut> that's a contraband supplier.
[17:18] <smoser> :)
[17:18] <smoser> CONTRIBUTOR  . https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194340/1//COMMIT_MSG
[17:24] <kwadronaut> i had seen it, contemplated signing the cla for a pullrequest, but thought it was too much
[17:25] <kwadronaut> uhm wait, is the cloud-init cla now the same as the openstack one?
[17:37] <smoser> no.
[17:37] <smoser> not the same.
[17:38] <openstackgerrit> Scott Moser proposed stackforge/cloud-init: HACKING.rst: mention signing the contribors agreement  https://review.openstack.org/194340
[17:58] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: s/contribor/contributor/ :)
[18:00] <harlowja> i don't think i signed the 'contribors' agreement :(
[18:00] <harlowja> shit
[18:00] <harlowja> i might get fired
[18:00] <harlowja> lol
[18:01] <harlowja> :-P
[18:01]  * harlowja stops poking fun at smoser
[19:34] <smoser> harlowja, i think you did.
[19:34] <harlowja> lol
[19:35] <smoser> its nice that its ordered by first name
[19:35] <smoser> that always makes sense
[19:36] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, you can sign if you want, but your work is covered as a employee of canonical.  Ie, they already own copyright for your work you dont have to tell them they do :)
[19:36] <harlowja> your life blood is theres
[19:37] <smoser> ook. so on this..
[19:37] <smoser> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194340/1
[19:38] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, wants HACKING.rst to be in doc / rendered somehow.
[19:38] <smoser> which i think is a good idea.
[19:38] <smoser> he suggested
[19:38] <smoser>  06/22/15 16:55:49 <Odd_Bloke> You could link it in to the documentation directory and include it in the TOC and it would be generated as part of that...
[19:38] <smoser> but i suspect the words "link" and "windows" don't go together.
[19:38] <smoser> any other sugestions ?
[19:42] <harlowja> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/openstack/oslo.versionedobjects/master/doc/source/contributing.rst
[19:42] <harlowja> smoser * do something like ^
[19:43] <spandhe> hey smoser!
[19:44] <smoser> spandhe, hey.
[19:44] <smoser> harlowja, cool. thanks.
[19:45] <harlowja> np
[19:45] <spandhe> smoser: hey.. I have a qn on MAAS regarding omshell.. anyone I can talk to about that?
[19:46] <smoser> oh my. well, #maas probably better than here.
[19:46] <smoser> i'm guessing that is 1.5 ?
[19:47] <smoser> 1.7 is almost in trusty now (via SRU) . and i dont think omshell is relevant anymore.  i dont think.
[19:48] <spandhe> smoser: thanks..
[20:35] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: I probably signed it at some point in the past because of bzr contributions anyway. :p
[20:40] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, still there?
[20:40] <smoser> you made tox require > wily version
[20:41] <smoser> can we get by with version in trusty ? i'd certainly like for trusty to work
[20:41] <smoser> but at a minimum i'd like wily to
[20:44] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Maybe; I'll check.
[20:44] <Odd_Bloke> I think I bumped the version to support something that we were doing, but I might have ended up pulling that out because of a bug.
[20:45] <smoser> Odd_Bloke, also, where would i get doc8 ?
[20:47] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/doc8
[20:48] <smoser> bah. sorry.
[20:48] <smoser> i just ahd to re-create the .tox for that.
[20:49] <smoser> maybe you did it to avoid this error:
[20:49] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764395/
[20:52] <openstackgerrit> Daniel Watkins proposed stackforge/cloud-init: Move required tox version down to 1.6.  https://review.openstack.org/194814
[20:53] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: ^
[20:54] <smoser> does that work ?
[20:55] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Yeah, I was trying to do something clever when I was developing the coverage stuff (which needed the newer version).
[20:55] <Odd_Bloke> But there was a bug, so I ripped it out.
[20:56] <Odd_Bloke> But forgot to undo the required version bump.
[20:56] <smoser> how come i see the dll error above ?
[20:56] <Odd_Bloke> I'm not sure, I thought that was fixed in master.
[20:56] <Odd_Bloke> (I'm seeing it as well)
[20:56] <smoser> do i need to google for that dll and download it and put it in c:\windows\system ?
[20:57] <smoser> :)
[20:57]  * Odd_Bloke sharpens his knife.
[20:58] <smoser> do i have to be Administrator to do that ?
[20:59] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: Probably.
[20:59] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11764447/
[20:59] <smoser> htat is needed on trusty with 1.6
[21:00] <Odd_Bloke> smoser: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194814/1/tox.ini
[21:01] <Odd_Bloke> I'm not really sure why the doc build is failing, it's something to do with pbr I think.
[21:01] <Odd_Bloke> I'm sprinting at the moment, so I can't really look at it right now.
[21:01] <smoser> oh. sorry. you alrady did that :)
[21:01] <smoser> thanks Odd_Bloke
[21:01] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[21:01] <Odd_Bloke> No excuse to not +2 it now, you wrote the same code. ;)
[21:03] <smoser> done
[21:05] <openstackgerrit> Merged stackforge/cloud-init: Move required tox version down to 1.6.  https://review.openstack.org/194814


[08:32] <zniavre> wow the new software center is looking very bad i think
[08:33] <zniavre> was not so good before but now it's worst
[13:33] <darkmatter> w00! I broke gnome! \o/
[13:35] <coz_> ok
[13:36] <darkmatter> coz_: ever have one of those sleepy morning where you knew you should have cleared the cobwebs before upgrading packages? I just had one :D
[13:36] <darkmatter> I killed gnome ;)
[13:37] <coz_> darkmatter,  :)  yes sounds real familiar
[13:38] <darkmatter> accidentally upgraded to the developmental version of pango. thankfully tty's actually work on this install
[13:38] <coz_> :)
[13:39] <darkmatter> since everything gtk powered kinda depend on it I was all 'EEEK!"
[13:39] <darkmatter> depends*
[13:41] <darkmatter> meh. shoulda left it for later an had a good laugh at the missus expense. she'd go to log on and 'poof'... no gdm xD
[13:41] <darkmatter> anyway, how is coz_doing this fine morning?
[13:44] <darkmatter> coz_: is it just me or do you find http://jimmac.musichall.cz/images/blog/gnome-3-widgets-shaded.png a tad on the chubby side?
[13:45] <coz_> darkmatter,  mm  the bars  and buttons do seems a bit "chubby" :)
[13:48] <darkmatter> k. it's not just me then. I've been perusing the results of the UX hackfest and am 'attempting' to accept the direction. I guess overall the looks ok, I was just hoping gnome would go on a diet
[13:49] <thorwil> not just a tad
[13:50] <darkmatter> thorwil: I was attempting to be polite ;)
[13:50] <thorwil> heh
[13:50] <darkmatter> it was that or suggest renaming gnome3 to 'shamu'
[13:53] <vish> oooohhhh  empty white spaces , definitely a step forward  ;p
[13:54] <coz_> :)
[13:55] <thorwil> http://humphreybc.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/strip.jpg
[13:56] <darkmatter> vish: you should see the current organization of gnome shell. no categories. all apps listed alphabetically in a big-assed pile of icons. visual clutter is very appealing. I shall pity new gnome users ;)
[13:56] <coz_> thorwil,  lol
[13:56] <coz_> thorwil,  I like eggplant :)
[13:56] <vish> i pity the fool!
[13:56] <darkmatter> thorwil: hehe
[13:57] <coz_> the new default theme in ubuntu is a bit  carppy
[13:57] <coz_> although somewhat nice buttons but there is a bug in that they dont render properly  probably metacity
[13:58] <coz_> dont mean to offend the creator
[13:58] <darkmatter> coz_: it has potential as far as the basics go, but it feels REALLY rushed (lacks consistency), though I'm sure it'll be improved
[13:58] <thorwil> ack
[13:58] <coz_> darkmatter,  well the major thing is the colour of the buttons on that theme
[13:59] <vish> darkmatter: the apps list , in gnome3 is horrifying , if you dont add an app to the fav , you'll spend more time searching for the app
[13:59] <darkmatter> vish: I know, that's why I mentioned it
[14:00] <darkmatter> currently it looks like a bloated iphone
[14:01] <darkmatter> they should have kept some form of categorization to benefit new users
[14:02] <coz_> 6 years and they finally change the default theme... to this ?
[14:04] <darkmatter> gnome3 just feels like an epic dumb-down to me
[14:07] <coz_> I assume you    mean gnome-shell?
[14:07] <darkmatter> coz_: gnome3 in general. they're stripping out most of the system settings and crap
[14:08] <coz_> darkmatter,  sounds like typical gnome approach
[14:09] <darkmatter> they 'plan' to have an extra app called GNOME Plumbing(or plumber or whatever) (basically like tweakui)available to allow them to be adjusted, but we've heard such things before
[14:10] <coz_> :)
[14:10] <darkmatter> I'll believe it when I see it
[14:10] <coz_> darkmatter,  why they insist on cutting out options for users is well beyond my understanding
[14:10]  * vish imagines darkmatter as a old man siting on a lawn yelling at the kids ;p
[14:11] <darkmatter> vish: shhh... I wanted that truth kept secret!
[14:11] <coz_> vish,  no no thats me lol
[14:12] <coz_> if it wasnt for you damn kids
[14:14] <coz_> darkmatter,  I think I am a bit older than you
[14:14] <darkmatter> lies! :P
[14:14] <coz_> :)
[14:14] <darkmatter> ok.. not lies, you're verging on geriatric ;p
[14:15] <coz_> darkmatter,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/me%20pics/00004.png
[14:16] <darkmatter> :O it's a pasta chef!
[14:16] <coz_> darkmatter,  by the way that is really me lol
[14:16] <darkmatter> coz_: I believe ya. just bugging... because I can
[14:17] <coz_> :)
[14:22]  * darkmatter is on an extended break from ui stuff and is letting his creative juices flow
[14:24] <darkmatter> concept art for a long overdue pet project! \o/
[14:26] <darkmatter> nappy time. brain hurts o/
[14:27] <coz_> :)
[16:37] <vish> argh! > http://psankar.blogspot.com/2010/03/forking-evolution.html?showComment=1268493408680#c5756548237122434612
[16:38] <vish> canonical just had the gnome3 meet , and still people say this :s
[17:42] <thorwil> vish: there's no shortage of ignorance and knee-jerking on the net. sadly you can't just educate people, they basically have to do that themselves. many don't want to
[20:28] <elmattt> yop
[20:28] <elmattt> is there a possibility to find the breathe theme icon in other colors ?
[20:28] <thorwil> i'm not aware of any variations/derivatives
[20:29] <elmattt> i need it in blue ^^
[20:44] <islington> elmattt: you might as well use oxygen then
[20:49] <elmattt> yes i already have those one


[03:31] <saivann> brainstorm.ubuntu.com gives many failure message
[03:32] <saivann> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[03:32] <saivann> While trying to retrieve the URL: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/5029/
[03:32] <saivann> The following error was encountered:
[03:32] <saivann>     * Connection to kumquat.canonical.com Failed
[03:32] <saivann> The system returned:
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[08:49] <BUGabundo> hi guys
[08:49] <BUGabundo> I'm getting: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg_1%3a7.4~0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[09:07] <davmor2> BUGabundo: try running dpkg --confiugre -a
[09:10] <BUGabundo> thanks davmor2
[09:11] <BUGabundo> I already got it fix
[09:11] <davmor2> ah right :)
[09:11] <BUGabundo> there was a prob with a folder on /var/cache
[12:30] <davmor2> Yay live iso at last :)
[12:30] <stgraber> do they boot ?
[12:33] <davmor2> stgraber: no idea I just ran the update script and it started to download daily-live for the first time :)
[15:00] <davmor2> stgraber: slightly over size by about 100 meg
[15:00] <davmor2> trying vm
[15:11] <davmor2> stgraber: no it doesn't boot
[15:12] <stgraber> :(
[15:16] <davmor2> drops into initramfs
[15:17] <stgraber> good, at least kernel loads :)
[15:19] <davmor2> well who know might gett live cd's before the next alpha :)
[16:18] <melat0nin> are all 8.04 isos now 8.04.1?
[16:22] <stgraber> that should be the case yes
[16:22] <melat0nin> kewl.. am building a new box for my mum :D
[17:24] <stgraber> I have a lug meeting tonight so I probably won't attend the meeting or will only attend a short part of it
[17:24] <stgraber> sorry
[17:25] <sn9_> i'd like to inquire into the status of an SRU: LP #246834
[17:26] <sn9_> hmm, when did ubotu become ubottu?
[17:27] <LaserJock> stgraber: :(
[17:59] <sn9_> am i asking in the wrong place?
[18:00] <davmor2> I got to sod off at 18:30 too :(
[18:03] <davmor2> ara: ping meeting
[19:47] <nand> heno: sorry, missed the meeting. Indeed it's maybe time to set up #ubuntu-brainstorm. Who is responsible of setting up channels? Or we can use it without setup, maybe
[19:48] <heno> nand: you can just create one
[19:48] <LaserJock> nand: you want https://wiki.edubuntu.org/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels
[19:48] <nand> heno, LaserJock: ok, thanks
[19:48] <LaserJock> but make sure to do the "Open the channel for public access, using " part down at the end
[19:48] <LaserJock> that tripped me up
[19:49] <sbeattie> Okay, iso tracker is updated with interpid alpha 2 information
[19:49] <LaserJock> btw, #ubuntu-quality should be all set up and ready to go so have at it :-)
[19:49] <sbeattie> I marked Hardy .1 as hidden rather than released, in a monkey-see-monkey-do action.
[20:10] <afflux> the md5sum of the intrepid alternate amd64 does not seem to be correct
[20:10] <afflux> (the one shown at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/1747)
[20:11] <afflux> it looks like it's the one for the i386 image
[20:13] <sbeattie> afflux: you sure you don't want http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/1746
[20:14] <sbeattie> 1747 looks to be linked from the i386 item, how'd you get there?
[20:14] <afflux> I thought so. doh. sorry.
[20:14] <afflux> I must've clicked on the i386 testing link for some reason...
[20:15] <sbeattie> No problem, I barely know what I'm doing in setting up the iso tracker, so it's quite likely I messed something up.
[20:15] <afflux> hehe
[20:21] <davmor2> sbeattie: shame on you ;)
[20:22] <sbeattie> davmor2: uh, I induce shame upon myself in many ways, you're going to have to be more specific. :-)
[20:22] <davmor2> :D LOL
[20:23] <davmor2> so what are people testing?
[20:25] <afflux> is it just me? ubuntu-alternate-i386 does not seem to work with virtualbox at all, some kernel oops or so. (can't read the full thing)
[20:25] <davmor2> afflux: is it dropping into initramfs
[20:26] <afflux> nope - last line is: kernel panic - not syncing:  attempted to kill the idle task!
[20:26] <davmor2> hang on
[20:26] <afflux> three lines above says "code: bad EIP value."
[20:28] <davmor2> seem's fine in kvm
[20:29] <sbeattie> Hrm. I'd heard something about kvm problems booting intrepid
[20:29] <davmor2> sbeattie: no it's just slow at drawing the gfx
[20:29] <sbeattie> https://launchpad.net/bugs/243677
[20:31] <davmor2> sbeattie: seems to be working here
[20:45] <afflux> found the LP bug. How exactly should I link it with the iso.qa tracker? With every i386 testing target or only once?
[20:45] <afflux> bug 246067
[20:46] <davmor2> afflux: whatever test you are trying add the bug number in the box where it says bugs
[20:47] <afflux> it will fail for all tests in virtualbox with this image (and maybe others)
[21:03] <davmor2> no kvm installer worked and it droped into initramfs after
[21:15] <bdmurray> My mouse is behaving badly in vmware with kubuntu
[21:17] <davmor2> burning to cd
[21:21] <bdmurray> everything I click brings up a widgets menu
[21:24] <davmor2> Riddell: ping
[21:26] <davmor2> bdmurray: Riddell will be the one to hit with a big hammer for that one ;)
[21:26] <bdmurray> am I not alone?
[21:26] <davmor2> I'm not running vmware
[22:39] <mrooney> hello everyone!
[22:41] <mrooney> I hear I should come here for various reasons, 1) I would like to register an avant-window-navigator section in brainstorm and 2) I was wondering if ubuntu hosts qa/development related blogs anywhere
[22:44] <james_w> hey mrooney
[22:44] <mrooney> hi james_w!
[22:44] <james_w> I think there was a #ubuntu-brainstorm channel created today
[22:44] <mrooney> oh neat
[22:45] <mrooney> I got the impression from reading brainstorm that this is a brainstorm/qa type channel but it doesn't overly sound like it from the topic
[22:45] <james_w> for the second question, there is an ubuntu-qa blog, what were you thinking of?
[22:45] <james_w> it was, but it wasn't entirely appropriate as you noted.
[22:45] <mrooney> well I just wanted to start my own blog about triaging, what's coming in new releases, things to look forward to in new packages, etc. and I wasn't sure if ubuntu offered any services for ubuntu related blogs
[22:46] <mrooney> there are the planets but it appears they might all just be hosted elsewhere
[22:46] <james_w> yeah, I think ubuntu only has planets
[22:47] <james_w> There's always wordpress.com and the like
[22:47] <sbeattie> mrooney: actually, there's a qa blog at blog.qa.ubuntu.com that gets fed into planet ubuntu.
[22:48] <sbeattie> It's admin'ed by the people doing brainstorm, so you may wish to ask for access over in #ubuntu-brainstorm
[22:58] <stgraber> In your case, best is to setup your own blog and add it to Planet (you need to be an Ubuntu member to do so)
[22:59] <stgraber> the QA blog is mainly use for announcements and call for testing regarding the whole Ubuntu project. I don't think it's appropriate to use it for a single package.
[23:14] <mrooney> stgraber: that makes sense, though the two issues were unrelated


[06:04] <rick_h_> jcw4: party party :)
[08:44] <frankban_> guihelp: I need two reviews for https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/611 thanks
[09:25] <kadams54> frankban__: I can take a look in a few moments
[09:26] <kadams54> frankban__: Is there an associated card?
[09:31] <frankban__> kadams54: no, I'll create it
[09:55] <frankban__> kadams54: done, it's in review lane, addedyour tag to it
[09:55] <kadams54> frankban__: thanks
[09:55] <frankban__> thank you
[15:15] <kadams54> guihelp: easy QA (just CSS) and review needed on: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/pull/613
[15:27] <kadams54> hatch: Nuetnigenough