[09:09] <flodine> _jason ok im not they wont work with aterm or eterm
[09:09] <ubuntu> hey all I got ubuntu running on a p3 450 MGhz and 384 mb sd ram :) with no harddrive using live cd of 5.10 lol
[09:09] <djm62> renatosansevero: you need to use port forwarding
[09:10] <renatosansevero> jnk I have a router modem here...
[09:10] <renatosansevero> djm62 how so?
[09:10] <_jason> flodine, I don't know, they were giving me too much problems to tell you the truth so I just removed them
[09:10] <jnk> renatosansevero, you need to forward port 22 to your computer
[09:10] <SAM_theman> back
[09:10] <renatosansevero> it's already opened
[09:10] <SAM_theman> junk mail
[09:11] <flodine> _jason ok thxs
[09:11] <jnk> renatosansevero, does your router forward the port to your computer?
[09:11] <renatosansevero> jnk it's working fine with localhost on port 22
[09:11] <jenda_busy> One more prob with mplayer: It says New_Face failed... and something about a font every time I resize or start playback
[09:11] <Bateau_> chapium: i just got it working, somewhat. in totem and xine, i got sound. but not picture.
[09:11] <renatosansevero> jnk : i don't know.. how can i know that?
[09:11] <cold> hmm anyone know how to disable ubuntu random stack?
[09:11] <djm62> renatosansevero: you need to tell the router that any requests for port 22 get forwarded to to your internal IP
[09:11] <_jason> jenda_busy, did you install mplayer-fonts
[09:11] <jnk> renatosansevero, check the router configuration.. or try to connect by ssh from outside your local network
[09:12] <SAM_theman> renatosanservo can i pm u?
[09:12] <renatosansevero> djm62 ok. i got. i'll check it ..
[09:12] <jenda_busy> _jason: Now I did... thx
[09:12] <renatosansevero> SAM_theman   ????
[09:12] <renatosansevero> SAM_theman   pm ????
[09:13] <jnk> just do it
[09:13] <SAM_theman> pm=Private Message
[09:13] <SAM_theman> Yes Or No
[09:13] <renatosansevero> yes
[09:14] <B1zz> how can i get ubuntu to load my wireless card at startup? everytime i reboot i have to modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:14] <jnk> B1zz, add the module name to /etc/modules
[09:14] <djm62> B1zz: add ndiwrapper to /etc/modules
[09:14] <rickest> modules.conf?
[09:14] <SAM_theman> umm...guys
[09:14] <SAM_theman> /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[09:15] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman alsa
[09:15] <rickest> !alsa
[09:15] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:15] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman how to fix this problem /dev/dsp: Input/output error
[09:16] <SAM_theman> this better work
[09:16] <SAM_theman> and thats a threat :D
[09:16] <SAM_theman> j/k
[09:17] <jahshua> i just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?
[09:17] <Bateau_> xine says something about dvd:/. where can i find this dir? so that i can mount a .img file to it.
[09:17] <_jason> ubotu, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:17] <ubotu> ...but alsa is already something else...
[09:17] <_jason> ubotu, no alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[09:17] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[09:18] <Madeye> How's dapper now? is it stable in term of development stability ?
[09:18] <jenda_busy> _jason: use /msg ubotu :)
[09:19] <SAM_theman> brb ok it says i have to restart
[09:19] <_jason> jenda_busy, :)
[09:20] <renatosansevero> jnk : I found here, IP routing TABLE
[09:20] <renatosansevero> jnk : The information it shows Destination
[09:20] <renatosansevero>
[09:20] <renatosansevero> Label
[09:20] <renatosansevero>
[09:20] <renatosansevero> Gateway
[09:20] <renatosansevero>
[09:20] <renatosansevero> Intf
[09:20] <renatosansevero>
[09:20] <renatosansevero> Metric
[09:20] <_jason> renatosansevero, use pastebin
[09:21] <renatosansevero> _jason how do I use this?
[09:22] <_jason> !pastebin
[09:22] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:22] <renatosansevero> !pastebin
[09:22] <nunux> hi everyone
[09:22] <nunux> i'm noob on ubuntu
[09:22] <_jason> renatosansevero, just go to that site, paste what you want and then just paste the URL here
[09:22] <boldstrike> question: how can i configure my pppoe connection to start automatically when i boot up ubuntu?
[09:23] <kangpeh> How come linspire-clear won't compile ?
[09:23] <renatosansevero> ok
[09:23] <orchid> hi
[09:23] <Seveas> kangpeh, because this isn't linspire
[09:23] <flodine> anyone still on hoary
[09:23] <nunux> my question is how i install enemy territory game on ubuntu?
[09:23] <orchid> how can i add the kernel source and headers to my ubuntu?
[09:23] <Blissex> nunux: easily.
[09:23] <kangpeh> seveas: i really like the theme though
[09:24] <sethk> Seveas, that definitely might have something to do with why linspire-clear won't compile.  :)
[09:24] <Seveas> orchid, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux-source-2.6.12
[09:24] <nunux> really?
[09:24] <SAM_theman> same shit
[09:25] <orchid> Seveas, ok, lets see
[09:25] <SAM_theman> sound don't work for games only music and movies and the themes
[09:25] <Kyynara> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 <-- is there a way I don't need to restart my computer
[09:26] <boldstrike> hello? does anyone know how to configure a pppoe connection?
[09:26] <Kyynara> is there some way I can reboot my soundsettings?
[09:26] <nunux> they are a way to log in root here?
[09:26] <Seveas> !tell boldstrike about pppoe
[09:27] <boldstrike> very cool...
[09:27] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about alsa
[09:27] <orchid> Guys, if I want to add any application
[09:27] <teknoprep> YAY
[09:27] <orchid> i have to look always for the .deb?
[09:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell orchid about synaptic
[09:28] <DUNFreak> God this is annoying. I installed Windows XP with VMWare, and when it accessed my HDD it can read the NTFS partition on it... But PartitionMagic reads the whole drive as "BAD", and unix software like qtparted and gparted are unable to resize the partition or convert it in any way shape or form. Very annoying and unnerving, this is!
[09:28] <Seveas> orchid, no
[09:28] <Seveas> orchid, you look in synaptic for the application and click install
[09:28] <Seveas> no need for manual downloading
[09:28] <benplaut> bye everyone... off to my LUG meeting :)
[09:28] <barosl> how can i disable moving mouse to center when changing window in E17?
[09:29] <Alex> Seveas: THought that Ubuntu was moving away from synaptic to that other weird thing?
[09:29] <Seveas> gnome-app-install
[09:29] <Seveas> both will be available
[09:29] <bobcat> hi all!  does anyone have experience with deploying a jsp on a geronimo app server
[09:29] <navarone> DUNfreak> I have probs with Partitionmagic 7 myself. Drive is fine but it won't play ball when trying to edit drives...partitions table errors...and bad geometry...but no worries...:)
[09:30] <navarone> DUNFreak, does any of the error checking utilities in Windows fix any errors?
[09:30] <DUNFreak> navarone, the trouble is that I am unable to do anything with the drive from linux either. From what I've gathered, Gparted with ntfstools is supposed to be able to resize the partition, or even (which would be best) convert it to FAT32... but with no luck, it keeps telling me that I'm "Trying to apply operations on a busy device"
[09:31] <DUNFreak> navarone, PQMagic seems to "fix" partition table errors but that doesn't change anything at all
[09:31] <nunux> i have a .run file to install
[09:32] <DUNFreak> PQMagic doesn't even let me run "Check for Errors"
[09:32] <henriksson> cheers
[09:32] <SAM_theman> IT WORKS
[09:32] <navarone> DUNFreak, hmmm...have not tried any partition editing in Linux...but my system disk (windows) is fat32 w/Win2k so the disk checking utils do not work anyway.  PM7 gives me errors and I think it may have to do with previous Mandrake install that hosed the table
[09:32] <SAM_theman> Fuking Works
[09:32] <SAM_theman> AA sound works and Et
[09:32] <nunux> i make this command: nunux@ubuntu:~$ sudo /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:33] <SAM_theman> u play ET to?'
[09:33] <poningru> what?
[09:33] <eobanb> nunux, and then what
[09:33] <nunux> yeah but i wanna make it work on ubuntu
[09:33] <DUNFreak> navarone, for me I think it's Ubuntu that messed something up
[09:33] <SAM_theman> i have it working
[09:33] <nunux> but error of e/s
[09:33] <eobanb> nunux, what is the error
[09:33] <SAM_theman> and Americasarmys
[09:33] <navarone> DUNFreak,  PM7 refuses to even start...I get error at startup
[09:33] <poningru> anyone know how to create a exact copy of a hard drive
[09:34] <poningru> down to the mbr?
[09:34] <eobanb> dd should do it.
[09:34] <navarone> DUNFreak, I had no prob with ubuntu...but I installed on brand new drive
[09:34] <poningru> eobanb: dd?
[09:34] <viktor> hi all =)
[09:34] <eobanb> man dd
[09:34] <DUNFreak> navarone, that seemed to be the case prior to me messing around with "TestDisk" , but since I played around with it at some point it seems to have partially helped
[09:34] <poningru> k
[09:34] <viktor> someone knows how to get my surrond system to work in ubuntu ??
[09:34] <viktor> i got a av8 motherboard =9
[09:34] <nunux> that my error: Impossible d'ouvrir le fichier /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[09:35] <DUNFreak> navarone, my drive is 2 years old, 60 gigs. If I had another one to write data to I'd simply format and forget, but in this case I don't want to lose 40 gigs of data, including websites and software that are rather hard to find.
[09:35] <nunux> Erreur d'E/S
[09:35] <navarone> viktor, try "alsamixer" in terminal and see if all speakers are unmuted
[09:35] <nunux> sry my ubuntu is french
[09:35] <viktor> k
[09:35] <eobanb> cannot open file...I/O error
[09:35] <eobanb> hum.
[09:35] <DUNFreak> navarone, besides if I could only resize it it would be fine, I'd create a fat32 and then transfer, resize again and transfer  again, etc...
[09:36] <LjL> nunux: does "ls -l /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run" print anything at all?
[09:36] <LjL> nunux: and if it does, try "chmod +x /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run", or "sudo chmod +x /home/nunux/Desktop/et-linux-2.60.x86.run"
[09:37] <ramblingturtle> hello everybody
[09:37] <navarone> DUNFreak, what hosed my mandrake install I suspect was not defragging windows first and the resize left remnants of windows on Mandrake's new partition. I think that's what freaked windows/PM7 out. I now use the mandrake partition as a file transfer between os's and for mp3 p2p
[09:37] <SAM_theman> yo
[09:37] <avatar_> if i were to install windows on my machine, after linux, is there an easy way (perhaps via a live ubuntu cd) to restore the grub boot sector?
[09:38] <DUNFreak> navarone, I actually had Windows before, but I just removed the partition, then used the free space to install Ubuntu. I dont have windows anymore except in vmware :P
[09:38] <ramblingturtle> i have a quick question. I am looking for a program that is similar to cool edit pro that will work with ubuntu. Really we just need to be able to edit cuss words out of tracks for a radio show. Any suggestions would be appericated
[09:38] <DUNFreak> 60 gigs just ain't enough
[09:38] <navarone> DUNFreak, for the new disk and ubuntu I partitioned drive with manufacturers utils and left space for ubuntu to use...was easiest way for me...
[09:38] <viktor> how do i know if they are muted or not ?
[09:39] <wolki> hi!
[09:39] <eobanb> hi.
[09:39] <_jason> ramblingturtle, audacity, but you'll need to killall esd for it to start if you use esd (doesn't play nice with esd)
[09:39] <BenUrban> is there a way to convert an ebuild to a deb?
[09:39] <bimberi> avatar_: not sure if "easy" is the word but there is this -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:39] <navarone> viktor...the volumes things should be coloured at least partway up...if no colour then they are muted/lowered
[09:40] <BenUrban> bimberi: sounds like you need a tinyurl :P
[09:40] <viktor> well i have coloret all of them (but hey weren't colored when i entered the prog)
[09:40] <navarone> viktor, use arrow keys to move between them and up/down arrows to raise/lower
[09:40] <avatar_> bimberi: chrooting is easy enough, thanks
[09:40] <bimberi> BenUrban: lol, it's a bit of an essay innit  :)
[09:40] <bimberi> avatar_: np :)
[09:40] <ramblingturtle> jason, thank you and I will look into that more the problem I have had with audacity is turning the tracks into mp3 format when I am done using the program but I know i just have to look into that a little bit further
[09:41] <navarone> viktor try again with the sound
[09:41] <BenUrban> !ebuild
[09:41] <ubotu> BenUrban: No idea
[09:41] <BenUrban> heh, thought not
[09:41] <viktor> i have done that but whn i look on surroundut says [off]
[09:41] <BenUrban> !deb authoring
[09:41] <ubotu> Wish i knew, BenUrban
[09:41] <BenUrban> !deb
[09:41] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:41] <BenUrban> ...
[09:41] <bimberi> !listvals ebuild
[09:41] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'ebuild' by value returned no results.
[09:41] <bimberi> :(
[09:41] <jahshua> anyone ?
[09:41] <jahshua> i just tried to dl firefox for kubuntu i used Ark to open it..my desktop resized with a black border at the top and the right .. how can i set it back?
[09:41] <BenUrban> !gentoo
[09:41] <ubotu> BenUrban: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:41] <BenUrban> lol
[09:42] <_jason> ben_d, you can message ubotu and he'll answer you privately :)
[09:42] <_jason> BenUrban, ^
[09:42] <sarkar112> !rpm
[09:42] <ubotu> hmm... rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[09:42] <BenUrban> _jason: didn't expect to have to pester the bot that much
[09:42] <sarkar112> !alien
[09:42] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[09:42] <viktor> but alot of the speakers says off :S:S
[09:42] <viktor> navarone al to of the speakers is off :(:(
[09:42] <sarkar112> !gaim
[09:42] <ubotu> I guess gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[09:43] <sarkar112> !root
[09:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:43] <shadeofgrey> gimp in the house
[09:43] <shadeofgrey> what up folks?
[09:44] <ximatr> !kernel
[09:44] <Bateau_> ok, i just connected a projector to my laptop. and i want to play a movie, exept on the projector the movie player gets only a blue screen. but when i have picture on my laptop screen the movie plays just fine. what can i do to make it work?
[09:44] <poningru> ubotu: forget root
[09:44] <ubotu> i forgot root, poningru
[09:44] <Mateo_> yop all :)
[09:45] <Voodoo_Vibe> Can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??
[09:45] <zardoz> Hello - I really need some help conerting my files to UTF-8 - nothing works...
[09:45] <poningru> ubotu: root is <reply> disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:45] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[09:45] <ProN00b> Bateau_, i have the same problem, my second screen doesn't support overlay
[09:45] <poningru> ubotu: root
[09:45] <ubotu> disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:45] <Blissex> Bateau_: thats a bit unlucky, it means that the video overlay is not working on the output you are using.
[09:45] <Seveas> poningru, wth are you doing?
[09:45] <ProN00b> Bateau_, what are you using to play the video ?
[09:45] <Seveas> sudo
[09:45] <ProN00b> Blissex, any idea on how to get it working ?
[09:45] <Bateau_> ProN00b: Xine
[09:45] <Seveas> !sudo
[09:45] <ubotu> I heard sudo is the command to get superuser privileges, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:46] <BenUrban> Seveas: ooh you're around
[09:46] <Blissex> Bateau_: that can have several causes. However, at thre cost of a hufe slowdown, use the 'X11' output surface method.
[09:46] <Seveas> !forget root
[09:46] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot root
[09:46] <Seveas> !forget sudo
[09:46] <ubotu> i forgot sudo, Seveas
[09:46] <Seveas> !sudo is <reply> see root
[09:46] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[09:46] <Blissex> Bateau_: odds are that you are using the projector as a secondary screen and your card does not support video overlays on the secondary.
[09:46] <eobanb> !sudo
[09:46] <ubotu> see root
[09:46] <henriksson> vmPlayer rocks
[09:46] <eobanb> !root
[09:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, eobanb
[09:46] <poningru> wtf
[09:46] <viktor> someone knows how to put on a speaker ?? =)
[09:46] <poningru> sorry
[09:46] <BenUrban> Seveas: i found why my 3d acceleration wasn't working...i needed to upgrade my kernel
[09:46] <poningru> hold on
[09:47] <zardoz> utf8-migration-tool does not work for me, and convmv changes all my Danish characters to  and other weird characters
[09:47] <Seveas> !root is <reply> The root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:47] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[09:47] <ProN00b> Bateau_, sorry, i dunno how to do it with xine, but you can use mplayer -vo x11 -zoom -xineramascreen 1 with those parameters to play it on the second screen
[09:47] <Seveas> !lock root
[09:47] <ubotu> Seveas: locking factoid root
[09:47] <Seveas> !lock sudo
[09:47] <ubotu> Seveas: locking factoid sudo
[09:47] <eobanb> thank you seveas....
[09:47] <viktor> only 2 of my speakers are on of my 6 possible :P
[09:47] <eobanb> we dont need that getting fucked up by people
[09:47] <BenUrban> Seveas: now the opengl portion of aleph one is blank
[09:47] <poningru> jeez I was working on it
[09:47] <BenUrban> Seveas: any ideas?
[09:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> Can anyone help me getting my soundblaster audigy 4 to work??
[09:47] <edelberg> hi all
[09:48] <eobanb> poningru, what was wrong with it before
[09:48] <shadeofgrey> i dunno if audigy is supported
[09:48] <BenUrban> eobanb: rumour has it, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu..
[09:48] <Seveas> BenUrban, given that I don't have the slightest clue what aleph one is: no
[09:48] <eobanb> oh, oh.
[09:48] <eobanb> (shrugs)
[09:48] <poningru> eobanb: take a look at what BenUrban just said
[09:48] <BenUrban> Seveas: heh, aleph one is a game that's not in ubuntu yet
[09:48] <eobanb> well, we're fine now then i guess.
[09:48] <poningru> yeah
[09:48] <navarone> viktor> I have sb live and in alsamixer I can right arrow over quite far to see spdif and such...make sure you have looked at all the volumes available and up any that are remotely like a speakers source
[09:48] <eobanb> i *love* marathon
[09:48] <renatosansevero> I'm trying to use external IP to access my internal IP address.. in a way that people from other contry can access my computer . how can I configure that?
[09:49] <BenUrban> eobanb: never been to #alephone?
[09:49] <nunux> oh i have another question, i have a great computer but it seem to run slow do i can make something?
[09:49] <zardoz> does anybody know something about utf-8 conversion?
[09:49] <ximatr> ximatr hola
[09:49] <eobanb> BenUrban, no
[09:49] <arpu_> hi
[09:49] <Voodoo_Vibe> how can i get alsamixer?? i have downloaded alsa-base and alsa-utils
[09:49] <arpu_> i can not start firefox in dapper
[09:49] <BenUrban> eobanb: if you love marathon you may as well be there :)
[09:49] <Seveas> Voodoo_Vibe, in the terminal you type: alsamixer
[09:50] <renatosansevero> zardoz yes. it standard caracteres
[09:50] <arpu_> <window id="main-window"
[09:50] <arpu_> ^    <menu id="helpMenu"
[09:50] <arpu_> ----^
[09:50] <eobanb> BenUrban, i know all about aleph one
[09:50] <arpu_> ^^ is the problem by start firefox
[09:50] <Voodoo_Vibe> Seveas: yes i know but i dont have it.
[09:50] <renatosansevero> zardoz it's common used in XML files, so people can see "" ...
[09:50] <zardoz> renato - I can't convert my files to utf-8
[09:51] <renatosansevero> zardoz which files? what are you tring to do?
[09:51] <zardoz> I am trying to convert all my old filenames to utf-8, like mp3's and such
[09:51] <Bateau_> ProN00b: that command didnt work
[09:52] <poningru> Bateau_: what are you trying to do?
[09:52] <henriksson> could someone explain how ip masking works?
[09:52] <zardoz> renato: I tried convmv and utf8-migration-tool without luvk
[09:52] <zardoz> luck
[09:52] <Bateau_> poningru: trying to play a movie on my projector from my laptop
[09:52] <renatosansevero> zardoz I think you should make a script and run it recursively in all your files.
[09:52] <eobanb> henriksson, usually with a proxy server
[09:53] <BenUrban> Seveas: X Error of failed request:  BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)
[09:53] <zardoz> renato: how would I do this - I'm not much of a programmer
[09:53] <BenUrban> from fgl_glxgears
[09:53] <vicks> i thinking of moving full time to kubuntu. the thing is that i have lots of documents and mp3's on my disk that i want to keep. backing them up on cd's isn'r really an option, as it would take quite a few cd's. would it be possible to make a partition, install kubuntu, copy my files to the kubuntu part. and then remove the windows-partition?
[09:53] <zardoz> and convmv changes my  characters to  and so on
[09:53] <poningru> Bateau_: what port are you connecting to the projector?
[09:53] <renatosansevero> zardoz why you need utf-8 files names?
[09:54] <melonipoika> hi
[09:54] <poningru> Bateau_: vga or svid?
[09:54] <Bateau_> vga
[09:54] <melonipoika> anyone uses ntfs-fuse?
[09:54] <ProN00b> Bateau_, do what Blissex said, change the playing device to X11 in your xine settings
[09:54] <eobanb> vicks, i wouldnt recommend live resizing partitions.  you should back up your data in any case anyway
[09:54] <yanis> how do I change the keyoard layout in console mode in ubuntu?
[09:54] <melonipoika> i can mount ntfs with ntfsmount from the terminal, but from fstab i get an error
[09:54] <zardoz> renato: Some music applications do not understand latin characters and can't read my folders and files
[09:54] <vicks> eobanb: ok, thanks
[09:54] <shadeofgrey> yanis:  y'know - i dont think thats possible
[09:55] <Bateau_> ProN00b: "Video driver to use" thingy?
[09:55] <melonipoika> and ntfs write is working!
[09:55] <Riddell> vicks: yes
[09:55] <chapium> what?
[09:55] <chapium> ntfs write?
[09:55] <ProN00b> Bateau_, i would think so
[09:55] <shadeofgrey> melonipoika: ntfs write is VERY perilous
[09:55] <melonipoika> yes :D
[09:55] <Blissex> yanis: it is sort of possible, not very advisable though... Look for the console tools package.
[09:55] <yanis> shadeofgrey: it MUST be possible
[09:55] <poningru> melonipoika: I wouldnt write to ntfs
[09:55] <Bateau_> ProN00b: x11 isnt on that list
[09:55] <Riddell> vicks: assuming you have the disk space
[09:55] <melonipoika> ntfs-fuse
[09:55] <bulio> how do I password protect ubuntu when it goes into screensaver?
[09:55] <ProN00b> vicks, defragment from windows then resize with partition magic from windows, worked for me
[09:55] <poningru> melonipoika: its possible but its very dangerous
[09:55] <chapium> ntfs == timebomb
[09:55] <poningru> melonipoika: but what was your problem really?
[09:55] <poningru> cant mount from fstab?
[09:56] <renatosansevero> zardoz hmmm once i have done a script to do that... very easy. but you also can find some information at: http://packages.ubuntu.org.cn/hoary/misc/utf8-migration-tool
[09:56] <chapium> more of a powder keg really
[09:56] <bulio> heh
[09:56] <bulio> just remove windows altogether
[09:56] <bulio> ;)
[09:56] <bulio> I did
[09:56] <shadeofgrey> bulio: right click on your top status bar and select add to panel and then click on the lock system icon and place it wherever you want
[09:56] <ProN00b> Bateau_, whats there ? try everything
[09:56] <hmpedersen> Where can i download hoary?
[09:56] <vicks> how big is the risk that i totally bork my filesystems?
[09:56] <eobanb> hmpedersen, hoary is not the current version
[09:56] <yanis> Blissex: it's bad I cant change it to dvorak easily :/
[09:56] <hmpedersen> eobanb, which is why i ask, where i can download it
[09:56] <shadeofgrey> bulio:  you can also assign a keystroke sequence to it using system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[09:56] <Blissex> yanis: you surely can and easily.
[09:56] <eobanb> vicks, i'd say it's big enough that you dont want to risk it
[09:56] <zardoz> renato: yeah, but that script did not work for me - it just changed my Danish characters to some weird characters like  and such
[09:57] <renatosansevero> zardoz if you are able to do a script. i recomend you code it in python..
[09:57] <bulio> thanks
[09:57] <navarone> vicks how big is your kubuntu partition in relation to the windows one?
[09:57] <yanis> Blissex: how?
[09:57] <chris> Hey guys, what's the best backup tool that I can use to recover, when all goes horribly wrong, from a CD/DVD recovery disk - with incremental backups?
[09:57] <houri> OS:(WinXP Professional 5.1 Service Pack 2 (Build #2600)) - Up:(1w 1d 2h 52m 58s) - CPU:(1 CPU - Intel Pentium 4, 2.67 GHz, L1: 8KB L2: 512KB (2% Load)) - Mem:(Usage: 357/512MB (69.73%) - (|||||||---)) - HD:(Total/Free: 68.35/28.88GB)
[09:57] <Blissex> yanis: the console tools have a dvorak layout. Indeed I remember seeing a Dvorak-for-Linux HOWTO somewhere.
[09:57] <eobanb> vicks, you ought to be backing up your data in case of drive failure no matter what
[09:57] <ProN00b> vicks, whats your setup right now ?
[09:57] <yanis> ok Blissex
[09:57] <Blissex> yanis: try 'locate dvorak' and marvel :-)
[09:57] <eobanb> hmpedersen, why do you want to use hoary?
[09:57] <meepy> If I want to learn and understand how linux works and how debian works, can you then recommend a book or somewhat?
[09:57] <hmpedersen> eobanb, because breezy doesnt install on my pc.. And i know hoary does
[09:57] <bulio> how can I disable switch user though?
[09:57] <shadeofgrey> meepy:  the ubuntu wiki is  a great place to start
[09:58] <eobanb> hmpedersen, do you know why it does not install?
[09:58] <zardoz> renato: there is already a script called utf-conversion.sh, but it does not work right for me
[09:58] <vicks> therright now i just have a drive with winxp on it, earlier i hd an old drive with ubuntu on it, but it's to small to use as backup
[09:58] <BenUrban> bulio: why would you want to disable user switching?
[09:58] <hmpedersen> eobanb, because it freezes during installing the fonts..
[09:58] <meepy> shadeofgrey, thanks.
[09:58] <shadeofgrey> meepy: if you want to speak with me in private i can guide you more precisely to stuff you want to know
[09:58] <hmpedersen> after an hour on the same font, it reboots
[09:58] <navarone> meepy> If you have gnutella or similar p2p do a search for "linux.*pdf" and you can get quite a few valuable reference works to look thru
[09:58] <eobanb> hmpedersen, perhaps you could try re-burning the media.
[09:58] <bulio> nvm, its good
[09:58] <poningru> !linux
[09:58] <ubotu> well, linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:58] <bulio> thanks guys
[09:59] <hmpedersen> eobanb, i did that many times.. now im asking where to download hoary
[09:59] <BenUrban> Seveas: are you still there?
[09:59] <meepy> I've read "Learn Linux in 24 Hours" that gave the basic commands in console (rm, cp, etc) but I want more :P
[09:59] <renatosansevero> zardoz I understand. that's because it convert files into UTF-8 . you should find a script to convert into other standard that doensn't accept latin caracteres.
[09:59] <vicks> hm, i don't want to risk loosing my data, so i will probably try to hunt down a cheap hd to use for backing up (at least during migration)
[09:59] <eobanb> vicks, good plan.
[09:59] <vicks> thanks fot the answers though
[09:59] <BenUrban> meepy: you might want to consider installing gentoo (just for the experience)
[09:59] <ProN00b> vicks, why not install ubuntu on the old disk and leave the other one like it is (you can even write to it if its fat)
[09:59] <navarone> vicks>losing mp3s would suck bigtime
[10:00] <poningru> hmpedersen: here http://ubuntu.hands.com/releases/5.04/
[10:00] <Knowerrors> Hey all, can some help with this, I installed Firefox 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script, but when I run FF, it crashes, heres what I get at terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5859
[10:00] <hmpedersen> poningru, thanx
[10:00] <BenUrban> meepy: the gentoo installation process does a very good job of teaching someone linux
[10:00] <renatosansevero> zardoz I'm from brazil (portuguese language) and latin caracteres aways bother me.
[10:00] <meepy> I tried it
[10:00] <eobanb> BenUrban, i respectfully disagree.
[10:00] <meepy> I got stuck pretty fast
[10:00] <poningru> hmpedersen: after installing hoary just put in the breezy cd
[10:00] <meepy> :P
[10:00] <poningru> it will upgrade
[10:00] <zardoz> renato: but why does it not change  into ? I mean, isn't utf-8 supposed to work with all characters?
[10:00] <vicks> ProN00b: it's an old 6 gb drive, which is extremely slow and noisy. i'm tired of it
[10:01] <viktor> i have navarone i have now fixed so that all the side speakers works but not the sub or the center :(
[10:01] <hmpedersen> poningru, yes i know.. I just need hoary installed first..
[10:01] <navarone> viktor what soundcard?
[10:01] <eobanb> BenUrban, a newbie following a gentoo install guide expecting to learn how linux works is like copying some chinese characters on paper and expecting to learn chinese....doing does not mean understanding
[10:01] <viktor> realtek 97
[10:01] <B1zz> hello all i am trying to play a dvd with xine,   I open it from the shell it it tells me libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.  It still plays the FBI warnings and goes to the main DVD menu but when i try to play it it says i dont have enought rights.  Any ideas?
[10:01] <BenUrban> eobanb: you might be right
[10:01] <poningru> !dvd
[10:01] <ubotu> dvd is, like, totally, "DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl   See also !libdvdcss2"
[10:02] <hmpedersen> Now this is interesting..
[10:02] <eobanb> personally, i believe an organised introduction to linux is usually more useful....
[10:02] <poningru> B1zz: did you get that?
[10:02] <navarone> viktor> sounds like onboard sound chip...is it actually able to give surround sound?
[10:02] <chris> Anyone know how I can buff-up the Right Click dialogue of xmms so that my friend doesn't scream when I show her Breezy?
[10:02] <eobanb> usually books work well
[10:02] <hmpedersen> My gmail has 8 mails in inbox.. And my gmail notifier says no new mail..
[10:02] <hmpedersen> oh well
[10:02] <hmpedersen> gotta start downloading image now
[10:02] <Hemet_Ka> how can I open a squashfs file?
[10:02] <viktor> yes it is an onboard soundcard i got an abit av8 board and yes it can give suround
[10:02] <renatosansevero> zardoz  yes. that's correct. UTF-8 works with all characters... but the point is: you have utf-8 files and need convert to linux compatible type of files
[10:03] <navarone> hmpedersen, are the mails ones you have looked at but not deleted from inbox?
[10:03] <viktor> i use surround in windows
[10:03] <BenUrban> Hemet_Ka: you need the squashfs kernel module
[10:03] <vicks> i must say that the whole ubuntu-sphere is quite spectacular, almost everyone is extremely helpful, and there is very little flaming
[10:03] <LjL> renatosansevero: "linux compatible"?
[10:03] <hmpedersen> navarone, they are unread :P
[10:03] <Hemet_Ka> BenUrban, how can I do that?
[10:03] <BenUrban> Hemet_Ka: dunno, heh
[10:03] <tilos> chris: try bmp its just like xmms but with gtk2
[10:03] <hmpedersen> ahh.. gmail notifier isnt actually responding to anything.. crashed again..
[10:03] <poningru> meepy: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/
[10:03] <viktor> navarone  i use surround in windows so i think it should be possible to use it in linux =)
[10:03] <hmpedersen> so much for kde software :P
[10:03] <poningru> meepy: that is a very extensive guide to linux
[10:03] <meepy> thanks
[10:03] <renatosansevero> LjL without "" ... the player he uses doesnot support that.
[10:04] <hmpedersen> programs *
[10:04] <chris> tilos: ok thankyou, ill have a look
[10:04] <navarone> vicks...if you get bigger harddrive you should update bios to insure that computer will recognize bigger capacity since you are usung 6 gigger atm
[10:04] <_jason> hmpedersen, gmail notifier has always worked well for me.  Did you enable pop in your gmail prefs?
[10:04] <renatosansevero> LjL linux usually doesn't work fine with all characters
[10:04] <LjL> renatosansevero: i see, but "linux compatible" is not quite the right term, as UTF-8 is as linux compatible as it can get...
[10:05] <zardoz> renato: sorry, I am a newbie, but isn't Ubuntu Breezy utf-8 by default? And why does convmv not change my  and  characters to the same characters?
[10:05] <renatosansevero> LjL yes. I got you.  I meant "his player compatible"...
[10:05] <hmpedersen> _jason, it works fine, unless i let the computer run for 4 days in a row without even restarting gnome :)
[10:05] <navarone> viktor what speakers are you using?
[10:05] <LjL> zardoz: yes, ubuntu comes with utf-8 set by default
[10:05] <_jason> hmpedersen, oh, I've been using it for 2 days... I better get ready
[10:06] <Hemet_Ka> BenUrban, have you got a wiki, howto or a place to find information about the squashfs files?
[10:06] <BenUrban> Hemet_Ka: me? no....
[10:06] <viktor> im using creative 5.1
[10:06] <void^> Hemet_Ka: http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/
[10:06] <Hemet_Ka> is there anyone with the information?
[10:06] <viktor> dont know exaclty
[10:06] <nubuntu> "Qt installation not detected.
[10:06] <nubuntu> Set $QTDIR correctly and reru" - What would be right path here? /usr/local/qt3 ?
[10:06] <Hemet_Ka> thanks void^
[10:06] <vicks> navarone: sorry, i don't think i was really clear on my setup. right now i'm in windows on a 80 gig, the 6 gig with kubuntu isn't in the setup att all atm
[10:06] <navarone> viktor...I am using 6 year old Kinyo's...lol
[10:06] <LjL> nubuntu: where is this happening?
[10:07] <renatosansevero> zardoz I will find here a routine to rename files.
[10:07] <nubuntu> LjL, installing Exscalibar
[10:07] <chris> Humm, my bmp isn't opening when I click it =/
[10:07] <zardoz> renato: thanks!!!
[10:07] <navarone> vicks...is the six gigs not in the windows machine?
[10:07] <BenUrban> nubuntu: yes
[10:07] <viktor> ok lol :P
[10:07] <LjL> nubuntu: since i don't know what it is -- do you actually mean installing, or *compiling*?
[10:08] <BenUrban> wait no that's not it
[10:08] <nubuntu> LjL, compiling I guess :) sorry, but setting path, doesnt help. Same response
[10:08] <renatosansevero> zardoz  in python ok
[10:08] <BenUrban> nubuntu: i think it would be /usr/include/qt3
[10:08] <LjL> nubuntu: is it a KDE program or just a QT program?
[10:08] <hmpedersen> well.. time for a ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[10:08] <zardoz> LjL: have I understood this correctly: when moving my files from my vfat-partition to my Ubuntu partition, they automatically become utf-8??
[10:08] <Hemet_Ka> void^,  if a distro instalation cd has got a lot of information in squashfs files, does this mean that I will not be able to modify it?
[10:08] <renatosansevero> zardoz  for renaming files you can use "os.rename (file1, file2)"
[10:09] <nubuntu> BenUrban, will try that
[10:09] <LjL> nubuntu: try installing libqt3-mt-dev, or kdelibs4-dev
[10:09] <zardoz> renato: ok, do I just write that on the command line?
[10:09] <hmpedersen> brb
[10:09] <void^> Hemet_Ka: extract it, modify, use mksquashfs, done
[10:09] <renatosansevero> http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/442517
[10:09] <LjL> zardoz: i am not sure if that happens
[10:09] <nubuntu> LjL, think I got those actually...
[10:09] <vicks> navarone: nope, running kubuntu on it was no fun. I only used it to try linux out (i'm new to it). it's to small to use for backup, so i don't have any use for it, i'm going to have to buy  a bigger one
[10:09] <renatosansevero> zardoz: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/442517
[10:09] <natex> somebody have a .deb for gimp-2.3.5?
[10:09] <renatosansevero> compile it and have fun with you songs
[10:10] <LjL> nubuntu: well, be very sure you do before going mad trying to compile... "apt-cache policy libqt3-mt-dev" will tell you if it's really installed
[10:10] <zardoz> renato: thank you SO much - I will check that out!
[10:10] <BenUrban> does anyone know how to convert an ebuild to a deb?
[10:10] <chris> anyone know why my bmp isn't opening when clicked? *drinks coffee*
[10:10] <Hemet_Ka> void^, t what program should I use to extract the files?
[10:11] <crimsun> chris: that's much too vague
[10:11] <nubuntu> LjL, off course Im sure. Not going mad, only almost :)
[10:11] <dm> Is there anyway in Gnome Desktop to hide mounted drives without unmounting them???
[10:11] <chris> hehe thought so, what could I say to help describe whats wrong?
[10:11] <eobanb> chris, try right-clicking and choosing Open with...
[10:11] <Quenyar> anyone here know how to use atd?
[10:11] <tilos> chris: run it from terminal and see the messgs
[10:11] <franky123> dm: try the file mounter desklet?
[10:11] <chris> ok 1 sec
[10:11] <natex> dm, hide? in what way?
[10:11] <LjL> nubuntu: would you give me a link to the archive you're trying to compile so i can try as well?
[10:11] <filleokus> How do i install flash plugins for firefox?
[10:11] <void^> Hemet_Ka: just mount the squashfs
[10:12] <nubuntu> sure, 5 sec
[10:12] <navarone> vicks> good idea.  when you do make a fat 32 partition using drives util cd and you can then use it to transfer/hold files between linux and windows until you have all data files safely backed up or what have you
[10:12] <hmpedersen> im back :)
[10:12] <eobanb> !flash
[10:12] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:12] <dm> natex i have mounted drives... and i cant get them off my desktop
[10:12] <rabeldable> Quenyar: whats question about atd?
[10:12] <Quenyar> I have a stupid question, when I am invoking an at command and I have the at> prompt, how do I end my input and return to the standard prompt?
[10:12] <filleokus> Oh sorry, in Amd 64 :P
[10:12] <hmpedersen> with a blue thingy runnong, telling me i have mail :P
[10:12] <eobanb> ah :)
[10:12] <nubuntu> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=101971
[10:12] <BenUrban> Quenyar: try ^D
[10:12] <rabeldable> Quenyar: type Ctrl-D
[10:12] <LjL> nubuntu: thanks
[10:12] <hmpedersen> I never got the amd64 running on my computer
[10:12] <vicks> navarone: sounds smart. thnx
[10:12] <natex> dm, Oh
[10:12] <dm> natex in other words, because i have mounted drives, 2 icons on  my desktop ( the drives links ) are always on my desktop, and i cannot delete them ,
[10:13] <natex> dm, gotcha... one sec
[10:13] <dm> frankly123 ? i want to hide the icons thats are currently on my desktop for my mounted drives
[10:13] <eobanb> filleokus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats#head-8716eb8189b09219de135a59c22dd4f4cf1b702e
[10:13] <chris> humm strange, it runs when I run it with root privileges - but not when I don't run it with them... humm
[10:13] <hmpedersen> anyways.. i need a 32bit distro to be able to use cedega :)
[10:13] <navarone> vicks> you can transfer windows to new drive as well if you want and then make it the boot drive...but I do not know your needs...or if you are planning to keep windows at all once your data is safely backed up
[10:14] <Quenyar> Thanks!  It's one of those stupid things that they never include in the instructions...
[10:14] <AoA> Does somebody knows what does this means : http://pastebin.ca/34004
[10:14] <chris> I guess i'll just add sudo to the launcher
[10:14] <SAM_theman> whats the command to install mplayer plguin for firefox?
[10:14] <natex> dm, looking...
[10:14] <cor1y> hmmm
[10:14] <dm> kk thnx
[10:14] <renatosansevero> I need to foward an external IP address into my network IP ?   Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB
[10:15] <natex> dm, gnome-panel:
[10:15] <natex> applications->system tools->configuration editor
[10:15] <silverton> BenUrban, get a new ISP then
[10:15] <renatosansevero> silverton how can i know the ISP ?
[10:15] <BenUrban> silverton: will do
[10:15] <renatosansevero> ISP ?
[10:15] <chris> what's the ext of a bmp file > navarone
[10:15] <silverton> BenUrban, ;D
[10:16] <SAM_theman> thank u
[10:16] <silverton> I'd hate not being able to serve anything, rofl
[10:16] <vicks> navarone: hm...it depends on what kind of drive i can get my hands on. if i can borrow/buy a used one, i'll probably just move my files there, do a full install ubuntu on my "windows-drive", and then copy my files back.
[10:16] <hmpedersen> renato, internet service provider.. what do you get your internet from?
[10:16] <dm> natex ?
[10:16] <eobanb> renatosansevero, the address for the web configuration of your nat device is probably something like <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <crimsun> chris: it can play vorbis, mp3, wav files by default
[10:16] <natex> dm, click on the panel menu "applications"
[10:16] <BenUrban> my mom has too much inertis in her email address thogh
[10:16] <BenUrban> *inertia
[10:16] <LjL> nubuntu: try "export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3"
[10:16] <silverton> BenUrban, take inititive, get a job, and pay for one yourself
[10:16] <renatosansevero> eobanb  ok I configure my web with <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <natex> dm, "sytem tools', configuration editor"
[10:17] <eobanb> renatosansevero, all right
[10:17] <eobanb> it's somewhere in there.
[10:17] <chris> oh ok, humm there all set to rhythmbox by default for me... uhh oh well - heh
[10:17] <BenUrban> silverton: i have a job
[10:17] <renatosansevero> eobanb  yes. but where?
[10:17] <natex> dm, then apps, nautilus, desktop
[10:17] <eobanb> renatosansevero, i'm not familiar with your specific brand of router, but from what i can tell you want to forward traffic on a certain port to a machine inside the nat?
[10:17] <natex> dm, you got it?
[10:17] <dm> natex GREAT , thanks man
[10:17] <eobanb> look for something like 'port forwarding' or 'nat' ...i cant help you more because this really isnt the place for that type of question
[10:18] <natex> dm, you bet
[10:18] <renatosansevero> eobanb I want to give SSH access for a user from other country...
[10:18] <proman> !AsLaN_-_ 05-la_habitacion_roja-nunca_ganaremos_el_mundial-srn.mp3
[10:18] <ubotu> proman: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:18] <cor1y> mozilla plugin try this page http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/install.php
[10:18] <crimsun> cor1y: no, I gave him the correct one already.
[10:18] <silverton> BenUrban, then pay for a different service for your room ;)
[10:18] <chris> I must go watch a film with some nagging lady, thanks for your help so far guys - seeyas
[10:18] <BenUrban> silverton: lol comcast has a monopoly on cable internet in this country
[10:18] <renatosansevero> eobanb So i think I should give him my external IP ... but it doesn't work
[10:18] <eobanb> renatosansevero, i can help you with ssh, but i'm afraid you'll have to figure out port forwarding yourself because this is not a networking channel and i'm also unfamiliar with your hardware
[10:18] <BenUrban> and i don't have a phone jack in my room
[10:19] <hmpedersen> renato, can u tell me the productno. of your router?
[10:19] <nubuntu> LjL, thanks!
[10:19] <silverton> BenUrban, you have comcast?
[10:19] <BenUrban> yes
[10:19] <silverton> what ports are they blocking on you that they aren't on me?
[10:19] <BenUrban> all of them
[10:19] <hmpedersen> model no.
[10:19] <silverton> oh okay, that makes sense
[10:19] <BenUrban> they block 100% of my incoming ports
[10:19] <eobanb> please stay on topic...
[10:19] <Nytryx> hey room
[10:19] <nubuntu> LjL, jackpot! :)
[10:19] <silverton> I haven't found a port yet that has been blocked
[10:19] <renatosansevero> eobanb ok. I have here some information in <IP_ADDRESS> ...like "IP routing table"
[10:19] <renatosansevero> can it help?
[10:19] <LjL> nubuntu: i can confirm it compiles with QTDIR set to /usr/lib/qt3. don't know why it doesn't work "out of the box", that's a very strange configure script they're using
[10:19] <eobanb> renatosansevero, no, that's not what you want
[10:20] <silverton> BenUrban, why doesn't your IP resolve?
[10:20] <renatosansevero> hmmmm what should I look for?
[10:20] <renatosansevero> eobanb  what should I look for?
[10:20] <hmpedersen> renatosansevero, can you tell me the modem's model no.?
[10:20] <natex> guys, I'm new to debian, is there a place to find bleeding edge debs? like gimp-devel branch?
[10:20] <BenUrban> silverton: uhh dunno
[10:20] <eobanb> renatosansevero, i already told you, look for something like 'port forwarding' or 'nat' or 'lan'
[10:20] <cor1y> well good
[10:20] <Hemet_Ka> void^, the squashfs files system is used for x86 based PCs?
[10:20] <BenUrban> silverton: what are you trying?
[10:20] <renatosansevero> hmpedersen: SpeedTouch 500Series
[10:20] <silverton> BenUrban, wanted to see what ISP you had so I didn't have to ask
[10:20] <nubuntu> LjL your the master
[10:20] <BenUrban> heh
[10:21] <cor1y> I just installed that plugin today and forgot how :)
[10:21] <eobanb> natex this is not the debian channel, this is ubuntu
[10:21] <hmpedersen> renato, the 500 series is rather big.. with namy different models.. all with varying software
[10:21] <void^> Hemet_Ka: the first paragraph on the site i linked you to states: The filesystem is currently stable, and has been tested on PowerPC, i586, Sparc and ARM architectures.
[10:21] <larzzz> hello some one from slovakia?
[10:21] <eobanb> natex, debian debs do not necessarily work on ubuntu
[10:21] <natex> eobanb, hmm. well that is an answer I would expect on #debian
[10:21] <hmpedersen> larzzz, not me.. But im trying to learn czech,is that close enuf?
[10:22] <silverton> BenUrban, maybe it's just your router?
[10:22] <Hemet_Ka> how can I know the nucleo version of linux?
[10:22] <JDahl> natex, it's not easy to find external bleeding edge debian packages. If you want the newest experimental packages, you should look at Debian Unstable
[10:22] <larzzz> yes i understand czech :)
[10:22] <renatosansevero> hmpedersen i will try to find the right number
[10:22] <BenUrban> silverton: you can't reach my router
[10:22] <BenUrban> silverton: you can only reach comcast's firewall
[10:22] <greenpenguin13> anyone know a decent suse irc channel?
[10:23] <natex> JDahl, ok thank you.
[10:23] <JDahl> natex, i.e., install Debian Unstable instead of Ubuntu Breezy
[10:23] <eobanb> #suse ?
[10:23] <Knowerrors> Anyone have a link for a FF 1.5 deb for breezy?
[10:23] <greenpenguin13> #suse is really quiet
[10:23] <hmpedersen> larzzz, Ses posral v kine?
[10:23] <hmpedersen> larzzz, nuffin personal :P
[10:23] <eobanb> natex, you could also try dapper
[10:23] <insomnd> hi
[10:23] <larzzz> cool man
[10:23] <eobanb> natex if you are new to debian/ubuntu i would not recommend you use unstable packages
[10:23] <silverton> BenUrban, has it always been like that?
[10:23] <renatosansevero> hmpedersen  I'm sorry. it just shows that information ... i don't know more about my router
[10:23] <BenUrban> silverton: yep
[10:23] <greenpenguin13> dapper isnt that bad :)
[10:23] <insomnd> is there a way to dial a regular phone number and have a conversation using my modem in ubuntu?
[10:24] <silverton> BenUrban, I'd call and be like "wtf guys?"
[10:24] <natex> eobanb, ok thank you. Iactually only need the devel gimp :/
[10:24] <hmpedersen> larzzz, heh.. I just created a new character in swg based on Radek Zelenka from atlantis :P
[10:24] <eobanb> insomnd, you need a voice modem
[10:24] <BenUrban> silverton: i've called them before
[10:24] <Knowerrors> I tried Arnieboys installer script, which makes Firefox 1.5 work, but it crashes on certain sites
[10:24] <Hemet_Ka> how can I know the kernel version of linux?
[10:24] <silverton> BenUrban, you in the states?
[10:24] <BenUrban> yes
[10:24] <Seveas> you know, ntfsprogs from dapper is cool
[10:24] <eobanb> Hemet_Ka, uname -r
[10:24] <rickest> Hemet_Ka: uname -r
[10:24] <natex> eobanb, I didn;t want to go thru the hassle of making my own .deb
[10:24] <BenUrban> well i'm in one particulat state
[10:24] <Seveas> writing to ntfs :)
[10:24] <insomnd> eobanb, how can i tell from ubuntu if my modem is a voice one?
[10:24] <BenUrban> *particular
[10:24] <hmpedersen> larzzz, so i have to learn to czech for when things to bad :P
[10:24] <silverton> hawaii, alaska?
[10:24] <eobanb> insomnd, you might want to look inside your computer and google the model number
[10:24] <larzzz> sorry idont know him :)
[10:25] <BenUrban> silverton: lol, no
[10:25] <eobanb> insomnd, most modems are not voice modems
[10:25] <insomnd> ok
[10:25] <renatosansevero> eobanb  I fount here  	Network Address Port Translation (NAPT)
[10:25] <larzzz> why do u want to know czech?
[10:25] <_jason> Knowerrors, run it in a terminal and make it crash.  See if it gives you an error to work with
[10:25] <eobanb> insomnd, if you want to call people from your computer you might want to look at some sort of VoIP instead
[10:25] <rickest> insomnd: or you could use minicom to query the modems caps; i.e., ati3 or ati4.  that /should/ tell you
[10:25] <greenpenguin13> what would i type to get a list of chanells ppl?
[10:25] <jenda_busy> larzzz: Good question
[10:25] <hmpedersen> larzzz, http://www.gateworld.net/omnipedia/characters/z/zelenkaradek.shtml
[10:25] <cmatheson> greenpenguin13: /list
[10:25] <_jason> greenpenguin13, /list
[10:25] <Knowerrors> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5859
[10:26] <silverton> I'm in WA, and three of my buddies have comcast and they don't have any issues
[10:26] <Seveas> Kaban4ik-, we speak english  in here
[10:26] <silverton> and I know a couple on the east coast that don't have issues
[10:26] <insomnd> eobanb, rickest, i am trying to record a phone conversation...
[10:26] <greenpenguin13> on irssi?
[10:26] <insomnd> i was thinking this might be an easy way
[10:26] <BenUrban> silverton: i've only ever encountered one other person on comcast who has all ports inexplicably blocked
[10:26] <silverton> same state as you?
[10:26] <BenUrban> nope
[10:26] <eobanb> insomnd, i should note that that isnt necessarily legal...
[10:26] <jenda_busy> hmpedersen: But why do /you/ have to learn Czech?
[10:27] <hmpedersen> jenda_busy, because im a roleplayer.. I have to play the role of radek :P
[10:27] <silverton> what'd they say when you called?
[10:27] <renatosansevero> eobanb  ?
[10:27] <dell500> how do i install a deb package?
[10:27] <larzzz> stargate :)
[10:27] <jenda_busy> hmpedersen: Ah I see. Tak hodn tst :)
[10:27] <BenUrban> hmpedersen: then you should already know czech
[10:27] <dell500> sudo dpkg packagename?
[10:27] <silverton> dell500, sudo dpkg -i
[10:27] <dell500> thanks
[10:27] <hmpedersen> You cant swear in czech, if u dont know the language :)
[10:27] <eobanb> renatosansevero, did you have any other questions?
[10:28] <redvelvet> any programs out there is war drive?
[10:28] <Hemet_Ka> void^, I've closed the web page (error), could you give me the address again please?
[10:28] <insomnd> rickest, what kind of parameters should i issue to minicom?
[10:28] <renatosansevero> eobanb  I told you, i found here something ...the most simillar to what you ask me to look for.... it's :   Network Address Port Translation (NAPT)
[10:28] <void^> Hemet_Ka: http://squashfs.sourceforge.net/  it's not only the project's homepage, but also shows up as #1 hit on a google search..
[10:28] <navarone> war drive?
[10:28] <_jason> Knowerrors, are you using an extensions or themes for firefox?
[10:28] <eobanb> renatosansevero, that sounds right.
[10:28] <hmpedersen> jenda_busy that came out as:  "Tak hodn tst"
[10:28] <redvelvet> deteckting wireless
[10:29] <silverton> redvelvet, kismet, or airsnort
[10:29] <eobanb> redvelvet, kismet is pretty good.
[10:29] <jenda_busy> hmpedersen: Anda that came out just as it aught here :) - it was "tak hodne stesti" - "good luck" :)
[10:29] <redvelvet> thank you silverton and eobanb
[10:29] <eobanb> or AP Radar
[10:29] <Knowerrors> _jason: I was with 1.07, but haven't installed anything since upgrading to 1.5 using the Arnieboy installer script
[10:30] <Seveas> Knowerrors, arnieboy is a fool and automatix is pure crap
[10:30] <redvelvet> eobanb, is this something i have to get through repositories?
[10:30] <hmpedersen> jenda_busy, thanx :) didnt get past swearing yet :) (as radek only uses his language when something goes wrong :P)
[10:30] <_jason> Knowerrors, run: firefox -safe-mode, and see if it still throws you errors
[10:30] <proman> !AsLaN_-_ 05-la_habitacion_roja-nunca_ganaremos_el_mundial-srn.mp3
[10:30] <ubotu> proman: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[10:30] <renatosansevero> eobanb  I clicked in NAPT Entries and it ask for Protocol, inside IP, ouside IP, Inside port, and outside port. is that fileds that I should populate ?
[10:30] <Cybb_laptop> Is really a root password set during the ubuntu installation?
[10:31] <LjL> Cybb_laptop: no
[10:31] <eobanb> Cybb_laptop, no.
[10:31] <silverton> Cybb_laptop, no.
[10:31] <BenUrban> Cybb_laptop: no
[10:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell Cybb_laptop about root
[10:31] <jenda_busy> hmpedersen: Cool :) So you would know what a "pojebany zmrd" is?
[10:31] <hmpedersen> Cybb_laptop nope
[10:31] <eobanb> renatosansevero, yes
[10:31] <BenUrban> anyone else? :P
[10:31] <silverton> lol >.<
[10:31] <navarone> proman> ubotu isn't a jukebox
[10:31] <Knowerrors> Seveas: Ive heard that before, why does his stuff get so much positive attention in the forums?   But gimme a sec..
[10:31] <eobanb> renatosansevero, what do you want to know?
[10:32] <Hemet_Ka> I cannot instal the program void^ my kernel version is not there
[10:32] <Hemet_Ka> :S
[10:32] <nubuntu> LjL, did you successfully compile that program?  Anyway this is very OT :)
[10:32] <LjL> nubuntu: i get that too, but then i didn't install libsoundfile, i stopped after i saw the QT part worked
[10:32] <insomnd> V.92, 56K Modem -> does that say anything?
[10:32] <hmpedersen> well.. If i knew what "pojebany" was, then id know what that means :P
[10:32] <void^> Hemet_Ka: what's your kernel version?
[10:32] <Dr_Willis> automatix is very annoying at times.. - as far as jacking up the system.. no clue there :P
[10:33] <nubuntu> ok
[10:33] <eobanb> Seveas, i agree..
[10:33] <nubuntu> LjL, so installing libsoundfile then
[10:33] <Knowerrors> Dr_Willis: yeah, I never used automatix or easyubuntu, but this one caught me bein lazy
[10:33] <insomnd> Conexant SmartAMCi Audio Modem Codec (AMC) CX20468-31?
[10:33] <LjL> nubuntu: you need either libsndfile0-dev or libsndfile1-dev, not sure which one yet
[10:34] <nubuntu> ok
[10:34] <renatosansevero> eobanb  I add the information and ran nmap command in external ip
[10:34] <LjL> nubuntu: libsndfile1-dev is ok
[10:34] <Knowerrors> Seveas: so what should I do now that Ive used his script? To get Firefox and plugins working again?
[10:34] <nubuntu> great
[10:34] <renatosansevero> eobanb  I retorned the port 22
[10:34] <Seveas> Knowerrors, I wouldn't be surprised if a reinstall comes along
[10:35] <Knowerrors> Seveas: whole system? or just FF? (btw, Im running Kubuntu 5.10)
[10:35] <renatosansevero> eobanb  seems to being working fine... but it still doesn't work when I try to use ssh "external IP"
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Knowerrors,  i think they need to work on a better over all 'system' for doing such things actually. and quit all the bickering..
[10:35] <Seveas> Knowerrors, at least FF, and if you did not use too much of automatix that'll be it
[10:35] <dell500> how do you untar something again?
[10:35] <Seveas> dell500, tar x filename.tar
[10:35] <hmpedersen> jenda, i take it, its pretty close to 'kokot jeden pojebany' or 'Zmrde zkurvenej'...
[10:35] <Cybb_laptop> when using "sudo" before a command, does that automaticly restrict one from using tab completion?
[10:36] <LjL> Cybb_laptop: yes, but you can fix that
[10:36] <Seveas> Cybb_laptop, yes
[10:36] <Seveas> the programmable completion for sudo is busted :)
[10:36] <hmpedersen> and yeah.. that is very ot :P
[10:36] <silverton> dell500, tar x[j/z] f foo.tar
[10:36] <eobanb> renatosansevero, are you running sshd?
[10:36] <_jason> Cybb_laptop, edit your .bashrc look for completion
[10:36] <shadox> hello
[10:36] <LjL> Cybb_laptop: edit ~/.bashrc and look at the last few lines
[10:36] <Knowerrors> Seveas: good, I never used automatix... so is this http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html or this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion a better howto?
[10:36] <LjL> Seveas: bah, works well enough for me, just some quirks once in a while
[10:36] <Seveas> Knowerrors, the latter
[10:36] <Cybb_laptop> oki thanks
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Knowerrors,   if you REALLY need some updated program. there the 'autopackage' system  . or the 'klik' package system - that can install sutff on a per user basis. and thus not trash th whole system. :P
[10:37] <fletch33> anyone tell me how i can get a program in wine to recognize a usb com port
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> but those 2 may not be as up to date.
[10:37] <Seveas> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww autopackage
[10:37] <Seveas> don't use that word in here
[10:37] <Knowerrors> lol
[10:37] <renatosansevero> eobanb sure...
[10:37] <fletch33> i am using bitpim a phone software and in runs fine in wine but it doesnt recognize the phone or any com ports
[10:37] <jenda_busy> lol
[10:37] <Seveas> really, autopackage is evil
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  been testing it out.. havent seen any issues so far.. klik  finially started working also.
[10:37] <Knowerrors> yeah, after getting burned, Id rather do it manually, get all the plugins proper w/o breaking stuff
[10:38] <renatosansevero> eobanb i have just connected with my local network ip address in ssh now
[10:38] <shadox> can anyone tell me how to get xmms, so i can play mp3's?
[10:38] <Seveas> apt-get install xmms
[10:38] <fletch33> i looked everywhere and i have been looking for 3 days i could really use some help with this
[10:38] <shadox> don't work
[10:38] <shadox> it sais
[10:38] <eobanb> renatosansevero, i really dont know
[10:38] <silverton> shadox, getting xmms won't help you
[10:38] <silverton> !mp3
[10:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:38] <shadox> can't find package
[10:38] <renatosansevero> eobanb ??
[10:38] <shadox> i also downloaded the w32 codecs
[10:38] <Seveas> shadox, enable universe (and multiverse while you're at it)
[10:38] <eobanb> renatosansevero, i DON'T KNOW, i'm unfamiliar with your hardware
[10:39] <nomin> I recently installed ubuntu as 3rd OS on my pc.  I would like to mount ubuntu partitions on mandriva, but I'm having trouble typing the right stuff into /etc/fstab.  It mounts it on mandriva but once I reboot it automatically changed fstab back to original file...
[10:39] <hmpedersen> shadox, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:39] <chasmarang> There is no gmc, rox or konqueror!
[10:39] <renatosansevero> please... someone HELP ME... is that so difficult to allow SSH connection for others....
[10:39] <eobanb> nomin, you're going to have to ask in a mandriva channel for that one...
[10:39] <nomin> can anyone help me out with the last line in my fstab?
[10:39] <shadox> thnx, i'll give it a tray
[10:39] <hmpedersen> shadox, then uncomment the universe and multiverse repositories..
[10:39] <silverton> fletch33, it prolly won't work, since the software prolly needs direct access to the ports
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> renatosansevero,  i never noticed it being hard.
[10:39] <silverton> wine is just emualtion software
[10:40] <eobanb> nomin, if mandriva is overwriting your fstab then it's a mandriva problem not an ubuntu problem, that it's an ubuntu partition is coincidental
[10:40] <jorgp> anyone know where the doc is that shows how to install ubuntu inside a chroot environment?
[10:40] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis and so...?
[10:40] <hmpedersen> shadox, after that, do sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <fletch33> silverton, there is no way to direct it there
[10:40] <dsl9017> Hi there
[10:40] <_jason> renatosansevero, make sure port 22 is opened, that's all I had to do
[10:40] <silverton> fletch33, no
[10:40] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: There is no gmc, rox or konqueror! and nautilus crashes all the time what can I use
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> renatosansevero,  install the sshd demon..  check your firewalls.. see if you can ssh in locally.
[10:40] <eobanb> Dr_Willis, we've been through that
[10:40] <renatosansevero> 22/tcp  open  ssh
[10:40] <Knowerrors> Seveas: so theres no repos, including yours, that have FF 1.5 deb?
[10:40] <nomin> ok
[10:41] <eobanb> Dr_Willis, it's some problem with his nat device not forwarding ports
[10:41] <fletch33> silverton, they make a linux version of the software tmiliar on how to install ithat is a .rpm but i am not fa
[10:41] <crimsun> chasmarang: rox, mc are available from universe
[10:41] <eobanb> and i'm unfamiliar with how his web configuration works
[10:41] <Seveas> Knowerrors, for breezy there will most likely never be one
[10:41] <Dr_Willis> chasmarang,  use to do what?
[10:41] <fletch33> silverton, sorry bad typing
[10:41] <dsl9017> Is there anyone who can help me with my Kubuntu installation? Something went wrong and now I get "Failed to load operating system" at boot.
[10:41] <shadox> i'm yet in the sources
[10:41] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about firefox
[10:41] <crimsun> chasmarang: rox-filer, sorry.
[10:41] <silverton> fletch33, google on how to use alien to convert that .rpm to a .deb
[10:41] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about firefox 1.5
[10:41] <chasmarang> see folders with swf files in them
[10:41] <shadox> what yet? there are a lot of lines starting with a #
[10:41] <fletch33> silverton, ok thanks for your help
[10:42] <silverton> fletch33, no problem dude
[10:42] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: To see folders with swf files in them
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> chasmarang,  ive often uised firefox and its  'file load' feature.
[10:42] <Knowerrors> Seveas: do I need to do any removing/cleanup from Arnieboys before I do the wiki FF1.5 install?
[10:42] <hmpedersen> shadox, look at them.. there is one saying "Uncomment the following... "
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> to view swf ive downloaded.
[10:42] <shadox> j
[10:42] <shadox> yes, right
[10:42] <Navire> Qemu in the Breezy are build with kqemu plugin?
[10:42] <LjL> qemu
[10:42] <natex> dsl9017, in your bios settings, make sure the device that the bootloader was installed to, is set to boot the machine
[10:42] <LjL> Navire: no
[10:43] <LjL> qemu
[10:43] <Navire> Ok
[10:43] <shadox> euhm
[10:43] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: yeah but when I want to right click and change permissions I cant
[10:43] <chasmarang> or edit
[10:43] <shadox> actualy there are 4 lines starting with ## uncomment the fol....
[10:43] <Seveas> Knowerrors, probably
[10:43] <Nytryx> e
[10:43] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis  i have done all ... sshd is running ok.,  i don't have firewalls, and i can connect in my ip locally... now i'd like to know if someone from other network can connect to my ip ... I mean... i cant give them my internal network IP address... but it doesn't work to forward my internal IP into my external IP ...
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> chasmarang,  you just lost me.. :P
[10:43] <Navire> Someone wish kqemu on ubutub breezy - http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.21
[10:43] <LjL> qemu
[10:43] <dsl9017> Natex, I didn't think the bootloader was installed yet. I quit the installation after the 'install base system' step.
[10:43] <Seveas> !qemu
[10:43] <LjL> qemu
[10:44] <ubotu> I guess qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[10:44] <Dr_Fie> my ubuntu cd order is taking forever
[10:44] <_jason> Knowerrors, read the removing part in the wiki.  His script is basically the wiki in script form.  He added a divert for the mozilla-firefox symlink too.
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> renatosansevero,  check some of the web based scanner tools - to scan your network and see if they can detect your ssh port perhaps being open.
[10:44] <Seveas> Dr_Fie, it should take 4-6 weeks
[10:44] <navarone> Dr_Fate, good things come to those that wait...:)
[10:44] <Knowerrors> _jason: thx
[10:44] <navarone> Dr Fie rather
[10:44] <navarone> Lotta doctors here...is it an ama meeting?
[10:44] <Dr_Fie> Seveas: it's been about 2 months now i believe
[10:45] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis  can you try to connect to my ip... ?
[10:45] <natex> dsl9017, That may be a problem ;)
[10:45] <Seveas> Dr_Fie, that's a bit longer than expected
[10:45] <renatosansevero> perhaps it's working and i dont know
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> renatosansevero,  if you want :P
[10:45] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis ok
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> renatosansevero,  msg it to me if ya want to
[10:45] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis but i can't private
[10:45] <Dr_Fie> Seveas: yeah :-/
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> paste it here then. :P lol
[10:45] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis i'm not registered yet
[10:45] <Dr_Fie> i did order 60 thought
[10:45] <Dr_Fie> though
[10:45] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis  lol
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> it takes 10 sec to register your nick.
[10:46] <Dr_Fie> lol @ all the Drs
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> unless they did some silly email thing now.
[10:46] <renatosansevero> eheho
[10:46] <renatosansevero> already registered
[10:46] <renatosansevero>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:46] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: I used to be able to open a folder with nautilus that had swf files in them and work on files in that folder with a click now nautilus crashes when I open any folder with swf files in them
[10:46] <dsl9017> natex, my install DVD is faulty. Will it help if I install again with a new install CD?
[10:46] <renatosansevero> ok
[10:46] <Dr_Fie> Dr_Willis: his tiblia has suffered from a minor fracture how shall we procede?
[10:46] <Dr_Fie> blahahaha
[10:46] <Knowerrors> _jason: Seveas , wonder how well this http://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz works?
[10:46] <fletch33> silverton,  i have alien installed can u tell me where to find it to get it going.
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> I belive we must remove his Medula Oblogonta and replace it with a small shell script.
[10:47] <_jason> Knowerrors, I would go with the wiki, it works fine for me
[10:47] <silverton> fletch33, should just be able to type alien in a terminal
[10:47] <renatosansevero> Dr_Willis private me
[10:47] <HeMan> Hi! Anyone knows if xorg is compiled for 686 (and above) only in Dapper?
[10:47] <Dr_Fie> Dr_Willis: RIGHT!
[10:47] <silverton> other then that dude, you're on your own ,I've never used it before
[10:47] <poningru> HeMan: no
[10:47] <Knowerrors> _jason: but I should start with the remove part right? to clean what the script did?
[10:47] <fletch33> silverton,  thanks
[10:47] <HeMan> When i try it on my Pentium 233 i get an SIGILL (4)
[10:48] <jedyyyyy> speeak spanish x_X?
[10:48] <Dr_Pedersen> Well.. There are many doctors in here right now, Dr_Fie.. I agree with you on that :P
[10:48] <_jason> Knowerrors, yes, I would open the script up and read it to make sure you undo everything
[10:48] <jedyyyyy> alguien k hable spaol?
[10:48] <Seveas> !tell jedyyyyy about es
[10:48] <jedyyyyy> oks
[10:48] <natex> dsl9017, yes, make sure that the bootloader gets installed
[10:48] <Dr_Fie> Dr_Pedersen: i just added the Dr_ part about 3 months ago as a joke and it stuck
[10:48] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: Dr_Willis: I used to be able to open a folder with nautilus that had swf files in them and work on files in that folder with a click now nautilus crashes when I open any folder with swf files in them.
[10:48] <poningru> HeMan: hmm thats 386 it should work
[10:48] <poningru> brb
[10:48] <Dr_Pedersen> heh
[10:49] <God_Pedersen> :)
[10:49] <Dr_Fie> lol
[10:49] <dsl9017> natex, thanks, I'm going to try it. I'm very happy with my DSL live CD now...!
[10:49] <hux> spokane
[10:49] <HeMan> poningru: any idea what SIGILL else could mean?
[10:49] <eksajm> how do i mount a usb mp3 player as a folder?
[10:49] <hmpedersen> now i dont think ill use that name :)
[10:49] <eruin> chasmarang, that sounds familiar... do you have python-nautilus installed?
[10:49] <shadox> i jut uncommeted the lines
[10:50] <shadox> and updated
[10:50] <renatosansevero> eobanb it's just working fine
[10:50] <renatosansevero> eobanb LOL
[10:50] <shadox> now xmms should work?
[10:50] <hmpedersen> shadox, good.. Then you should try again
[10:50] <natex> dsl9017, cool. good luck
[10:50] <erUSUL> HeMan, Dapper is not stable yet.
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> chasmarang,  as a test - try dissableing ALL 'file preview' options
[10:50] <chasmarang> eruin: I don't know
[10:50] <hmpedersen> shadox, sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:50] <eruin> erUSUL, depends on your definition of stable
[10:50] <shadox> nope
[10:50] <shadox> it still doesn't work
[10:50] <eksajm> anyone knows how to mount a usb device? any special program I need to install?
[10:51] <hmpedersen> hmm..
[10:51] <HeMan> erUSUL: i know, but xorg in dapper works fine on my pentium m and my amd64
[10:51] <oxez> Hi, I tryied installing kubuntu-desktop, and removed it immetialy (with my previously saved package selection). And now look what my gnome desktop looks like: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Capture.png . I have not changed any fonts/size. The gnome-panel font is way too big now.. why!?
[10:51] <natex> eruin, are you using dapper?
[10:51] <shadox> it sais
[10:51] <Dr_Fie> crap... does gnome have a lilo configuration program?
[10:51] <eruin> chasmarang, could you open a terminal and paste the output of dpkg -l python-nautilus to me in a PM ?
[10:51] <eruin> natex, ofcourse ;)
[10:51] <shadox> unvalid operation xmms
[10:51] <hmpedersen> i dont remember if i got xmms from apt or from a website..
[10:51] <hmpedersen> shadox..
[10:52] <hmpedersen> u need to do apt-get install xmms
[10:52] <natex> eruin, cool, how is it? stable? better than 5.10?
[10:52] <shadox> yes
[10:52] <shadox> i did
[10:52] <eruin> natex, better, and less stable than 5.10 ofcourse ;)
[10:52] <erUSUL> eruin, is the developer's definition not mine ;)
[10:52] <natex> eruin, heh. I meant "better" as in "neater"
[10:53] <eruin> natex, I don't have any problems at all with it (apart from missing openGL, but you might have a different experience ;)
[10:53] <shadox> aaah, my beg
[10:53] <shadox> forget the "install" part :$:$
[10:53] <hmpedersen> remember the install :P
[10:53] <eruin> natex, well, at the moment it's pretty much the same, apart from the fact that most things are updated
[10:53] <shadox> yes i will :D
[10:53] <hmpedersen> i thought u might notice it if i stayed quiet for a moment :)
[10:53] <natex> eruin, can you tell me about the gimp? which version?
[10:53] <amikron> hi there
[10:54] <eruin> natex, I don't think you should expect anything truly groundbreaking for dapper, since its main goal is to be a rock solid, supportable platform ;)
[10:54] <shadox> :) it just, i'm new to ubuntu
[10:54] <eruin> natex, 2.2.9
[10:54] <cor1y> ok help someone, just finished a third compile of vlc, plain old vanilla version and it still tells me I NEED the wxplugin , no mention in ./configure list now that
[10:54] <Nytryx> shadox
[10:54] <Nytryx> whats upo
[10:54] <cor1y> i installed the dev version wxwidgets
[10:54] <shadox> in windows you did never had to "get apt" 'n  :D
[10:54] <hmpedersen> shadox, welcome then :)
[10:54] <amikron> i am a newbie, i need a little help, can i ask a quiestion ?
[10:54] <zardoz> Anybody here know something about converting filenames to utf-8?
[10:54] <Kyral> cor1y: why are you compiling VLC?
[10:54] <natex> eruin, crap. ok thanks for fielding my questions.
[10:54] <shadox> thnx
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> amikron,  you just did. :P care to ask another?
[10:55] <hmpedersen> shadox, remember.. errare humanum est..
[10:55] <cor1y> funny enough I download  the ubuntu version and that works
[10:55] <shadox> and that would mean? :D
[10:55] <amikron> well i got 50 ubuntu cds, and i tried one of them.
[10:55] <cor1y> well I'm coming from windows and I have a lot of  home movies done in mv
[10:55] <hmpedersen> shadox, it is human to fail :)
[10:55] <cor1y> wmv3
[10:55] <Kyral> ah
[10:55] <shadox> :D
[10:55] <cor1y> and vlc can simply convert
[10:55] <amikron> i installed and it boots up
[10:55] <cor1y> from that to mpeg4
[10:55] <hmpedersen> shadx, trial by error is the best way to learn :)
[10:56] <Kyral> you need wxwidgets2.6
[10:56] <cor1y> avidemux or kino
[10:56] <cor1y> can't do it
[10:56] <amikron> but it didn't asked me for root pass
[10:56] <shadox> learing also latin :D
[10:56] <hmpedersen> heh
[10:56] <eruin> cor1y, any particular reason you're trying to compile vlc?
[10:56] <Kyral> ubotu tell amikron about RootSudo
[10:56] <shadox> so, now that i got xmms, it would mean i should be able to play mp3's?
[10:56] <zardoz> anybody knows something about using convmv?
[10:56] <cor1y> oyes I want to custome add wmv3 support
[10:56] <Kyral> amikron: our friendly b0t should have just PM
[10:57] <cor1y> I plan to ditch windows
[10:57] <Kyral> 'd you a link
[10:57] <shadox> errara human est, isn't that latin?
[10:57] <Estel> amikron, when did you expect it to ask you?
[10:57] <hmpedersen> shadox, you still need mp3 libs.. i guess some1 else could tell u.. im straining my neck typin like this..
[10:57] <hmpedersen> yeah..
[10:57] <Kyral> shadox: only XMMS and Beep Media Player have MP3 support out of the box
[10:57] <amikron> thx
[10:57] <sedat> I have problem about divx playing
[10:57] <amikron> during the install properties
[10:57] <hmpedersen> kyral, i didnt know that..
[10:58] <ljl> ok, for the guy who was asking about kqemu -- i've had some problems with IRC (don't ask), but...
[10:58] <hmpedersen> ds
[10:58] <Knowerrors> _jason: can I uninstall FF 1.07 when Im happy with 1.5? (remember Im using kde, so no FF depending apps I think)
[10:58] <Kyral> amikron: did you get a PMSG from Ubotu?
[10:58] <ljl> !kqemu
[10:58] <ubotu> methinks kqemu is a *closed-source* kernel module for speeding up the !QEmu virtual machine. You need to compile your own version of QEmu to use KQEmu on it; instructions to do this can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu
[10:58] <eruin> cor1y, try this: download and install the .deb listed here: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs , then use synaptic or apt-get to install the package called totem-xine
[10:58] <hmpedersen> shadox, then u should be good to go :)
[10:58] <shadox> ok, i thnQ very much for ya help (k) ;)=D
[10:58] <eruin> cor1y, works like a charm
[10:58] <sedat> I am using totem I see the film but I recognized that video coming after audio
[10:58] <Estel> amikron, as bot told you, the password for your first user becomes the password for root
[10:58] <Estel> As bot probably told you anyway ;)
[10:58] <_jason> Knowerrors, if you are using kde, *I think (I don't use kde) you should be fine.  In gnome it would cause some problems.
[10:58] <Kyral> ubotu tell amikron about RootSudo
[10:58] <Estel> ubotu tell Estel about RootSudo
[10:58] <cor1y> ok I'll give it a try
[10:58] <jenda_busy> How do I check if I have the mplayer plugin in firefox enabled?
[10:59] <_jason> jenda_busy, about:plugins
[10:59] <sedat> how can I change the totem settings that I can show the correct codec path for it
[10:59] <eruin> cor1y, I'm assuming here that you're using gnome as your desktop, not kde ;)
[10:59] <eksajm> hello! shouldnt hotplug detect that the usb device i have connected to the usb, is a device and mount it for me? or do i have to configure it a lot?
[10:59] <amikron> thx i got the msg
[10:59] <cor1y> yep
[10:59] <cor1y> gnome it is
[10:59] <eobanb> eksajm, generally usb mass storage should Just Work...
[10:59] <silverton> eksajm, thumbdrives should detect automatically
[11:00] <sedat> how can I change the totem settings that I can show the correct codec path for it
[11:00] <silverton> my 128MB thumbdrive shouldn't be considered "mass storage" >.<
[11:00] <eksajm> eobanb, silverton it is a iaudio mp3 player
[11:00] <eruin> sedat, gstreamer0.8 (which totem currently uses) has some audio/video issues... you could wait for dapper (which will probably have gstreamer0.10) or install the totem-xine package
[11:00] <sethk> eksajm, if the device is not formatted, or your kernel is configured without the file system type, it wouldn't mount
[11:00] <eksajm> but i get the message that it couldn be mountdfe no driver detected on /dev/sda
[11:00] <crimsun> silverton: compared with 1.44 MiB, it's quite "mass" storage.
[11:00] <silverton> eksajm, if the filesystem is fat/fat32, it should just work
[11:00] <silverton> crimsun, I guess, rofl
[11:00] <eksajm> silverton, hum i dont know what filesystem it has
[11:00] <sethk> eksajm, kernel support is missing then
[11:01] <eksajm> okey. .;/
[11:01] <Cybb_laptop> anyone who have had problems with licq due to "couldnt open qt-gui plugin etc"?
[11:01] <eksajm> can i detect what i should add to the kernel ?
[11:01] <sethk> eksajm, might be fixable using modprobe
[11:01] <sedat> eruin, I already use totem-xine but still have the problem
[11:01] <amikron> Estel: the passwords dont match :(
[11:01] <silverton> eksajm, type lsusb in a terminal and see if it's listed
[11:01] <eruin> sedat, you could also profit from installing the .deb from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs
[11:01] <eksajm> sethk, kk do you have any idee what the module is called?
[11:01] <sethk> eksajm, there is probably a module already compiled.  modprobe should find it for you
[11:01] <Knowerrors> _jason: I followed the wiki, but when I type firefox, it still wants to launch 1.07, why not 1.5?
[11:01] <sedat> eruin, I already have that also
[11:01] <eksajm> modprove usb then?
[11:01] <Estel> amikron, Which? Root will *always* be the password of the first user you created in installation.
[11:02] <eruin> sedat, then I'm out of ideas, sorry ;-)
[11:02] <silverton> eksajm, no, type lsusb in a terminal and see if the device is listed
[11:02] <Kyral> amikron: use Sudo
[11:02] <_jason> Knowerrors, you need to do the dpkg divert command
[11:02] <sethk> eksajm, possible the dmesg output (where it said no driver) will give you a hint about the name of the driver
[11:02] <_jason> Knowerrors, and then createa  new symlink
[11:02] <eobanb> what is amikron's problem?
[11:02] <eobanb> something about sudo?
[11:02] <sedat> eruin, but I am curios about how I can change the totem settings that totem uses the win32codecs
[11:02] <Estel> amikron, you aren't allowed to log in as root through GNOME
[11:02] <Estel> without doing odd stuff...
[11:02] <_jason> sedat, are you using totem-xine?
[11:02] <jenda_busy> _jason: Thanks. How do I install the plugin?
[11:02] <eksajm> sethk, silverton when i start up the compuer i get some error for module dependencies "couldnt load due to read only device" or something
[11:03] <ltibor65> Hi, guys! I have Windows XP, Ubuntu 5.10 and an other linux system on the Computer. Can I add this other linux to Grub loader, too?
[11:03] <sedat> jason, yes
[11:03] <juan_> Hey men,,, try to download XMMS
[11:03] <rambo3> like enbling it in gdm setup
[11:03] <Ophiocus> is there anyway i can force the update packages from the update manager to download to a specific location?
[11:03] <_jason> !info mplayerplug-in
[11:03] <eksajm> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0e21:0602 Cowon Systems, Inc.
[11:03] <eksajm> silverton, sethk
[11:03] <eksajm> thats the lsusb
[11:03] <juan_> for me is better than totem
[11:03] <sethk> eksajm, that's odd
[11:03] <sethk> eksajm, get the exact error message about the dependencies
[11:03] <eobanb> Ophiocus, can you be more specific
[11:03] <jenda_busy> !mplayer
[11:03] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:03] <amikron> i didnt try to log in the gnome
[11:04] <jenda_busy> !plugins
[11:04] <ubotu> jenda_busy: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:04] <_jason> jenda_busy, mozilla-mplayer is the package name
[11:04] <eobanb> the update manager installs the packages for you, so i dont know why you would want to put them somewhere else
[11:04] <Estel> ltibor65, yes you can :)
[11:04] <amikron> i am reading the sudo man right now =8]
[11:04] <action09> hi :) i'm trying to find why some gnome apps crash on Breezy, and i found some posts asking me to reconfigure locales.. but i'm French, hwat locales do i need doing 'dpkg-reconfigure locales'  please ?
[11:04] <eksajm> sethk, how?
[11:04] <eksajm> dmesg?
[11:04] <action09> the error i have is '(xchat:8228): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed'
[11:04] <ltibor65> Estel, how can I do it?
[11:04] <zardoz> anybody who can teach a total n00b about utf8-conersion?? I really need some help. I've been trying all day!!!
[11:05] <jenda_busy> _jason:
[11:05] <jenda_busy> _jason:thanx :)
[11:05] <zardoz> utf-8 conVersion of course
[11:05] <fletch33> silverton,  sorry to bother you but i have 1 more ?. i converted it to .deb so then how do i install it
[11:05] <_jason> jenda_busy, np
[11:05] <eobanb> dpkg -i, fletch33
[11:05] <silverton> fletch33, dpkg -i foo.deb
[11:05] <wims> which file do i set my repositories in again?
[11:05] <silverton> with sudo on the front
[11:05] <Ophiocus> i want all updates to download to another partition, i am experimenting installing ubuntu on the same machine with diferent install settings and hardware configurations, i figured i could save time if i had all the updates saved to disk so i could simply install them from there instead of downloading them every time
[11:05] <eobanb> wims, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:05] <Estel> ltibor65, you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst appropiately
[11:06] <fletch33> silverton,  ok thanks
[11:06] <eksajm> silverton, how do i found out error messages from during boot?
[11:06] <eobanb> Ophiocus, that's really tricky to do
[11:06] <silverton> eksajm, dmesg
[11:06] <amikron> thx guys i am root now! ;]
[11:07] <wims> eobanb, thanks
[11:07] <LjL> amikron: uhm, i'm not too sure you should be thankful for that, unless by "being root" you mean "using sudo"
[11:07] <Estel> ltibor65, you need to know the partition etc for the other distro, and copy a line with the Ubuntu boot details, altering it for the other DISTRO. Don't mess it up :s
[11:07] <Ophiocus> hmm,. ok how bout locating them downloaded packages and moving them to another place after install, what i want is not to have to download an aditional 51 megs after i reinstall the os
[11:07] <eksajm> silverton, Dec 17 14:50:57 localhost kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled.
[11:07] <Nomikos> trying to install mysql-server-4.1, fresh Ubuntu install, i am guessing i need to change repositories, that right?
[11:07] <erUSUL> Ophiocus, you can mount the patition under /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:08] <Estel> LjL: Oh it isn't... *that* bad ;)
[11:08] <Dr_Fie> .yawn.
[11:08] <erUSUL> Ophiocus, in all the systems
[11:08] <Ophiocus> thats where all downloaded updates go?
[11:08] <LjL> Estel: well, from what i've heard, it's not too good either... and i still can't grasp what's bad or uncomfortable with using sudo, personally
[11:08] <erUSUL> Ophiocus, do an ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ and find out ;)
[11:08] <Patartre> Hello, is there a command in ubuntu to erase MBR, as fdisk /mbr with the win XP CD ?
[11:09] <LjL> Patartre: "mbr" i suppose
[11:09] <Estel> LjL, nor can I. I think it might just be ease, especially if doing lots of admin stuff endlessly and wanted a root environment.
[11:09] <erUSUL> Patartre, no that i know of
[11:09] <fletch33> silverton,  ok it set it was setting up in the terminal. now how do i find it
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> pars,   fdisk /mbr dosent 'erase' the mbr. it writes a NEW mbr...
[11:09] <LjL> Estel: in that case, "sudo -i" is your friend
[11:09] <Estel> On my first distro, root was my only user because I didn't care about system intergrity.
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> pars, you can use dd - and 'zero' out the mbr if you really really wanted to...
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> but i forget the right dd options.
[11:10] <ltibor65> Estel, can both Linux bootable in Grub at the same time?
[11:10] <sethk> Estel, that's not the only reason to not run as root.  You can make mistakes that can cost you many hours to undo.  Having to explicitly become root gives you a few moments to think.
[11:10] <Estel> ltibor65, yes, they can as long as they have separate correct entries
[11:10] <Patartre> "dd" is a shell command ?
[11:10] <okih> I'm trying to install an Nvidia driver but when I disable the X server and go to install the driver, there is an error about there being no gcc complier or something. i have gcc installed though
[11:11] <rickest> Patartre: yes, a very powerful one
[11:11] <silverton> fletch33, it'll prolly be in the same directory where you ran the command
[11:11] <sethk> okih, "no gcc compiler or something" is not an error we can help you with.  Get the error, not something vaguely like it
[11:11] <burnt-toast> a quick couple of questions... does ubuntu use apt?
[11:11] <Estel> seth_k, I've enought of a n00b that I'm just as likely to make those mistakes with or without sudo ;)
[11:11] <Patartre> Many thanks, i'll find out
[11:11] <Estel> burnt-toast, yes it does
[11:12] <fletch33> silverton, well i had the setup files in my home folder then i ran alien in a terminal it said it was setting up and then went back to a prompt
[11:12] <Estel> burnt-toast, though the .debs aren't binary compatible with Debian
[11:12] <burnt-toast> ok thanks estel... one more quick question... how do you install a package and give it the answers to its questions ahead of time... (like an answer file or --question=answer type command line stuff)
[11:12] <ltibor65> Thanks, Estel, I try to change the grub menu.
[11:12] <sethk> Estel, not really.  You might (one hopes) say to yourself, "what I meant to do shouldn't require root, therefore I must be doing something else, something I don't intend to do."
[11:12] <ala> Hi there. Can I just throw a question at the channel here, or are there special rules to respect? (Apart from reading man and google for the problem)
[11:13] <sethk> ala, the rule is not to ask whether you can ask.  just ask.
[11:13] <Estel> :s
[11:13] <Ophiocus> ouch, thats like, full of stuff
[11:13] <burnt-toast> i want to automate the install of some packages after installation of (an) OS based on apt. but I want to pre-set the answers to the package installation process
[11:14] <Estel> burnt-toast, Offer the question to the room, sorry, don't know that much about it (I imagine scripting...)
[11:15] <burnt-toast> oops was not ment to be directly to you
[11:15] <burnt-toast> was just a question to any that can answer sry
[11:15] <ala> Since I upgraded from Hoary to Breeze, I seem to have network problems. The interface eth0 does no longer seem to pick up on the DHCP settings. Could the problem be IPv6 related? I have tried disabling IPv6, but I don't seem to succeed. Any suggestions? Looking in the /var/log files, the eth comes up at 100Mb as expected
[11:15] <Squee-D> burnt-toast look at chat?
[11:15] <erUSUL> burnt-toast, apt-get -y (assume yes)
[11:16] <Estel> ala, how did you upgrade?
[11:16] <fletch33> silverton, well i cant find it to start it up
[11:16] <Estel> complete reinstall?
[11:16] <ala> With the gnome GUI, going to System-> Networking and then "deactivating" the ethernet inteface takes forever. I mean never stops
[11:16] <ProN00b> did you check its settings, ala, did you try bringing it up with ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 ? ala
[11:16] <burnt-toast> ala sometimes kernel version will change which number the network adapter is assigned (generally if you have more than one)
[11:16] <fletch33> silverton,  feeling retarded
[11:16] <sethk> ala, which ethernet card or chipset do you have?
[11:16] <ala> Estel, The upgade was in fact a completely new install on unused partitions
[11:16] <ala> ProN00b, yes I tried ifup/down
[11:16] <Squee-D> burnt-toast my ubuntu machine just fell off the network but 'chat' is a good tool for automating another application (through stdin/out)
[11:16] <burnt-toast> erUSUL: I want to specify answers though..
[11:17] <Squee-D> otherwise. id tell you what package its in
[11:17] <burnt-toast> hmm
[11:17] <burnt-toast> ill look into chat
[11:17] <burnt-toast> Squee-D: thanks
[11:17] <ala> sethk, THe chipset is RealTek RTL8139
[11:17] <ProN00b> ala, if you are using dhcp ifup should tell you something abpit it
[11:17] <Dr_Fie> chrooting to another distro is fun yay!
[11:17] <sethk> ala, sometimes with realtek changing to the alternate driver helps
[11:18] <fletch33> how can i search ubu to find a program?
[11:18] <sethk> ala, does the network come and go, or does it never work?
[11:18] <Squee-D> burnt-toast no problem. you might find a lot of examples relating to modems.. thats not all it's good for :)
[11:18] <fletch33> i installed it but i dont know where? LOL
[11:18] <ala> ProN00b, problem is, once the PC booted, the ifdown never return the prompt
[11:18] <erUSUL> burnt-toast, install expect
[11:18] <sethk> ala, does dhcp every succeed, or does it fail every time?
[11:19] <ala> sethk some times there is no problem (say once every 10 or 20 tries), and everything works fine
[11:19] <Dr_Fie> burnt-toast?
[11:19] <burnt-toast> yeah im here
[11:19] <sethk> ala, I'm having similar problems with intel pro/100 and marvell gigabit
[11:19] <oxez> Hi, I tryied installing kubuntu-desktop, and removed it immetialy (with my previously saved package selection). And now look what my gnome desktop looks like: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Capture.png . I have not changed any fonts/size. The gnome-panel font is way too big now.. why!?
[11:19] <bungle> hi
[11:19] <burnt-toast> just trying to google while I have #debian and #ubuntu open at the same time :-p
[11:20] <juan_> HOW CASN I PUT 3DDESKTOP ON UBUNTU
[11:20] <juan_> WHAT COMAND
[11:20] <juan_> APT _???????????????
[11:20] <sethk> ala, I have a tentative theory that it is an interrupt sharing problem, but if you have only one NIC that blows my theory out of the water.
[11:20] <sethk> juan_, SHOUTING DOESN'T HELP
[11:21] <erUSUL> juan_, do not yell here...
[11:21] <silverton> juan_, you'll get no where with the caps lock key on
[11:21] <ala> sethk, how do I change to an alternate driver? And why was this never a problem before.
[11:21] <Estel> Do we have anti-shouting bots? ;)
[11:21] <Dr_Fie> juan_: apt-get install stfu
[11:21] <ala> sethk, I used to have more NIC installed. Now it's just the one. But I will have a look next time I boot for the IRQ
[11:21] <DUNFreak> Hey... quick question. How do I get Nautilus to burn 700Mo CDR's ?
[11:21] <juan_> ok sorry
[11:21] <juan_> thanks
[11:22] <juan_> let me try it
[11:22] <fletch33> anyone have any idea how i can search for a package i installed in a terminal but i dont know where it is to start it?
[11:22] <Dr_Fie> apt-get install 3ddesktop
[11:22] <Dr_Fie> or just open synaptic
[11:22] <Dr_Fie> synaptic pwns my world
[11:22] <mario12> hi, how can I download ncurses??
[11:23] <Chris_Tucker> anyone here expierenced with vmware?
[11:23] <erUSUL> mario12, apt-get install ncurses
[11:23] <dooglus> mario12: synaptic package manager will download and install it for you
[11:23] <DUNFreak> Chris_Tucker, I'm running it at this precice moment. Whatcha need? :P
[11:23] <juan_> ok Dr. fie and after that
[11:23] <roy> im into music
[11:23] <dooglus> erUSUL: you have to use the correct package name if you're going to use the command line.  there's no "ncurses"
[11:24] <mario12> i see
[11:24] <mario12> i've tried it several times
[11:24] <juan_> ok Dr. fie and after that
[11:24] <dooglus> mario12: there's "ncurses-base" and "ncurses-bin"
[11:24] <juan_> after apt-get install stfu
[11:24] <mario12> dooglus, what about ncurses-devel ?
[11:25] <Dr_Fie> juan_: it's not apt-get install stfu..
[11:25] <Dr_Fie> lol
[11:25] <dooglus> mario12: there's also evms-ncurses, libncurses5, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5, and libncursesw5-dev
[11:25] <erUSUL> fletch33, dpkg -L <package name>
[11:25] <Chris_Tucker> DUNFreak, i am having a lot of trouble with my network interface, im using wifi (ndiswrapper driver'd) as my main connection, and when using a bridge for vmnet0 to wlan0, vmware crashes when an OS detects network devices
[11:25] <Dr_Fie> juan_: press alt+f2 and type in synaptic
[11:25] <juan_> ok
[11:25] <juan_> let me try it
[11:25] <DUNFreak> Chris_Tucker, sorry haven't touched Wireless yet with VMWare.
[11:26] <dooglus> Dr_Fie: I think synaptic should be run as root
[11:26] <fletch33> eruin, thanks
[11:26] <Dr_Fie> err.. correct...
[11:26] <dooglus> Dr_Fie: alt+f2 followed by "synaptic" will run it as the user who is running GNOME...
[11:26] <Dr_Fie> alt+ft then type: gksudo /usr/bin/synaptic
[11:26] <Dr_Fie> f2*
[11:26] <Chris_Tucker> DUNFreak, wireless shouldnt be the prob, i think its the ndiswrapper thats causing it... when i use eth0 it works fine, but i know im going to end up wanting to use wireless in vmware a lot
[11:27] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, is there no native driver for your device?
[11:27] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, not that i know of, broadcom, using driver BCMWL5
[11:28] <DUNFreak> Chris_Tucker, that's what I mean. I haven't tried wireless from within VMWare... I mean I'm using NAT Bridging, no trouble. But wireless, no clue.
[11:28] <mario12> I've tried 2 download ncurses: ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ekg-1.6$ sudo apt-get install ncurses-bin Reading package lists... Done
[11:28] <mario12> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:28] <mario12> ncurses-bin is already the newest version.
[11:28] <mario12> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 113 not upgraded.
[11:28] <mario12> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ekg-1.6$
[11:28] <mario12> what's up?
[11:29] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, can you replace it with a natively supported one?
[11:29] <sethk> mario12, it's already installed.
[11:29] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, if there is one
[11:29] <sethk> mario12, if you want the older version also, you have to force the install
[11:29] <dooglus> mario12: what are you trying to do?
[11:29] <mario12> seth_k: whilst when in tryin to instal another app it goes: checking for ncurses/ncurses.h... no
[11:30] <sethk> mario12, that's not part of bin
[11:30] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, I mean natively supported hardware.
[11:30] <mario12> configure: error: You need ncurses and ncurses-devel packages.
[11:30] <dooglus> mario12: you'll need one of the "-dev" packages for that
[11:30] <sethk> mario12, those are source files
[11:30] <mario12> so what am i supposed to do?
[11:30] <sethk> mario12, and, it tells you, _right_ there, to install ncurses-devel
[11:30] <sklav> i love ubuntu but hate its freaking networking the way its called during init
[11:30] <sethk> mario12, so just do what it told you
[11:30] <dooglus> mario12: what are you trying to install?
[11:31] <fletch33> eruin,  what is the address of a site where i can post the package list for you to look at . i am not sure which is the executable file
[11:31] <sklav> a network restart doesnt start the eth0 interface
[11:31] <mario12> so i've installed ncurses, how install ncurses-devel?
[11:31] <merly> can anyone help me setup kino or dv in 64 bit ubuntu?
[11:31] <sethk> mario12, right
[11:31] <mario12> sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel-bin ?? it doesnt work
[11:31] <ala> sklav, I've been having the same problem. So far no sollution yet
[11:31] <mario12> E: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel-bin
[11:31] <dooglus> mario12: sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[11:31] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, not that i know of, do you know if the dlink DWL-G122 is supported? i may look in to buying a native mini pci card after christmas but cant do it right now
[11:32] <sklav> ala, and the damn thing is intermittant on top of everything
[11:32] <sethk> mario12, I didn't see anything in the message printed about something called devel-bin
[11:32] <erUSUL> !tell fletch33 about pastebin
[11:32] <sklav> almost miss the redhat init system
[11:32] <sethk> mario12, how can you install a package that doesn't exist?
[11:32] <linuxmaker> hi
[11:32] <fletch33> eruin, thanks i forgot the name
[11:32] <ala> sklav, indeed. Question: what graphical card do you use. And was this a problem before Breezy?
[11:32] <sklav> any plans on getting the redhat init system into ubuntu?
[11:32] <mario12> seth_k, works
[11:33] <erUSUL> sklav, no afaik
[11:33] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, don't know about the D-Link, but if you go shopping, try and get an Intel one.
[11:33] <sklav> ala, i started with breezy and i have since switched vid cards with ati and nvidia same issue
[11:33] <eruin> quit shouting at me! ;p
[11:33] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, gonna have to wait, i need a more immediate fix
[11:33] <oxez> Could anyone have a look @ http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Capture2.png - Since I installed/uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, gnome-panel and applications fonts are way too big.. I tryied reinstalling mscorefonts but it didn't help.
[11:33] <sklav> that should be a ubuntu project
[11:33] <fletch33> erUSUL, can u take a look at this for me real quick and tell me which is the executable  http://pastebin.ca/34008
[11:34] <ala> sklav, first I  thought it might have had something to do with IPv6. I'm not so sure now because Hoary had no problem with that module being enabled. Something weird with Breezy I would say
[11:34] <Delvien> What is the splash screen when you hit the login button on GDM and it shows whats loading, whats the name of that ?
[11:34] <rickest> fletch33: no, but I'd like to see the rest of that babe on your desktop
[11:34] <sklav> maybe get the redhat init system on ubuntu would be sweet
[11:34] <sethk> ala, I have ipv6 disabled.  It isn't related to ipv6.  Why would you think it would be related to ipv6?
[11:34] <sklav> other than that ubuntu is by far sweeter
[11:34] <grabakov> Hello again >^-^<
[11:35] <Estel> Delvien: Splash screen? Or do you want the file name?
[11:35] <heim> reel 14 ?
[11:35] <fletch33> rickest, what r u talking about
[11:35] <sklav> ala, i think its the way its called in the init cycle
[11:35] <grabakov> I was here yesterday with the hope that I might resolve an issue I've been having with Ubuntu.
[11:35] <Delvien> Estel well both, but i want to know what that splash is called. so i can replace uit, (ugly brown is not my style )
[11:35] <sklav> the slightest delay and the network is borked
[11:35] <sklav> or so my test have shown
[11:35] <ala> sklav, the way "what" is called?
[11:36] <sklav> hotplug and network
[11:36] <ala> could be
[11:36] <grabakov> X refuses to start and the error output from cat informs me that various files are missing - this is impossible considering it was a clean install and I hadn't used it since then.
[11:36] <fletch33> rickest,  are you trying to say that u can get in my computer? LOL
[11:36] <Shaquile> Im planning to run ubuntu as a server. Is there a special release or anything that I should download?
[11:36] <grabakov> All of these are fonts.
[11:36] <rickest> fletch33: sorry, wrong person  lol
[11:36] <eobanb> Shaquile, nope, just do the server install
[11:36] <sklav> Shaquile, breezy is a recommendation
[11:36] <kbrooks> Shaquile, i use ubuntu breezy as a server with gui
[11:36] <rickest> I meant oxez
[11:36] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about alsa
[11:36] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, DWL-G122 is supposed to work with the rt2500usb driver.
[11:36] <erUSUL> fletch33,
[11:36] <sklav> im using breezy also
[11:36] <Shaquile> sklav: Ok, thx =)
[11:36] <erUSUL> /usr/bin/bitfling and
[11:36] <erUSUL> /usr/bin/bitpim
[11:36] <eobanb> !server
[11:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[11:36] <fletch33> erUSUL, yeah
[11:37] <amikron> i am getting packages right now, yeeey :))
[11:37] <oxez> rickest: hold on
[11:37] <ala> sklav, is there a way to change the order of init? make hotplug go before networking?
[11:37] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, can you link me?
[11:37] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, its great news
[11:37] <sklav> ala, i have doen that
[11:37] <rickest> oxez: j/k anyway  ;-)
[11:37] <oxez> rickest: ok :p
[11:37] <sklav> but if i issue a network restart after the system is up i loose eth0 sometimes
[11:38] <fletch33> erUSUL, i will try that thanks i will let u know
[11:38] <Estel> Delvien, /usr/share/pixmaps/splash and the file..
[11:38] <Estel> he left
[11:38] <Estel> !!!
[11:38] <ubotu> ??
[11:38] <merly> has anyone successfully used dv capture with kino on 64-bit breezy badger?
[11:38] <grabakov> Any ideas? There are no reasons for the missings files...
[11:38] <rednaxel> I'm having a keyboard problem with my laptop (ubuntu 5.10)... some ordinary keys (like the interrogation mark) are not correctly mapped
[11:39] <lightbright> hello
[11:39] <grabakov> lightbright can -you- help me? :(
[11:39] <rickest> rednaxel: have you tried different terms (Eterm, xterm, aterm) just to be sure it's not your term rathern than system?
[11:39] <lightbright> grabakov: with?
[11:39] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, check out http://www.acmesystems.it/?id=705
[11:39] <fletch33> erUSUL,  well bitpim is what i wanted but when i click on it i get that it is an executable file than i choose to run and nothing happens
[11:39] <grabakov> lightbright Ubuntu. I have just finished a clean install and I can't get X to start.
[11:40] <rednaxel> rickest, no... this is a G733, the interrogation mark is odd: it's Alt Gr + W
[11:40] <lightbright> grabakov: what video card do you have?
[11:40] <grabakov> lightbright the log informs me that there are missing files - all of them fonts.
[11:40] <sethk> rednaxel, which keyboard are you using?  which language?
[11:40] <grabakov> lightbright ATI ;)
[11:40] <amikron> ;]
[11:41] <fletch33> erUSUL,  the icon has a text background with a small square diaganol brown in it with "sh" in the bottom right corner if that helps
[11:41] <rednaxel> sethk, it's portuguese (pt-br), ABNT2
[11:41] <Chris_Tucker> thanks soundray
[11:41] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.
[11:41] <grabakov> lightbright ?
[11:41] <sethk> rednaxel, the obvious thing to start with is the keyboard setting for NLS
[11:41] <rednaxel> sethk, all keys are allright, the only problem is this odd key combination
[11:42] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, maybe now i'll mod my DWL-G122 into my notebook so that its not sticking out of the side
[11:42] <sethk> rednaxel, you can use xmodmap to remap the character
[11:42] <lightbright> grabakov: what video card do you have?
[11:42] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, are you that kind of guy :)
[11:42] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, yea, i can do it, if i dont need that board thing i see at the top of that page
[11:43] <grabakov> lightbright ATI Radeon XPRESS 200m
[11:43] <sklav> how difficult would it be to port the redhat init system to ubuntu?
[11:43] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.
[11:43] <Dr_Fie> roar
[11:43] <Quiky> Hello all, is there any way to bypass a dependancy for a lib file without downgrading?   A downgrade wants to remove every package on the system including bash..
[11:43] <sethk> sklav, difficult, or at the very least, very tedious.  Why would you want to do that?  If you want red hat, run red hat
[11:43] <SAM_theman> !tell SAM_theman about cedega
[11:44] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, make sure that reception is okay inside your laptop.
[11:44] <sklav> seth_k|lappy, were talking about init system not OS
[11:44] <grabakov> lightbright you get that?
[11:44] <sklav> but thank you for the opinion
[11:44] <sklav> ubuntu init system is at times flakky
[11:44] <sklav> and intermittant
[11:44] <sklav> drives me nuts
[11:44] <lightbright> grabakov: when you load Ubuntu, where does it stop?
[11:44] <sklav> that im worried to reboot my server cause it might decide not to load eth0
[11:45] <soundray> Should I worry about regular "APIC error on CPU0: 40(40)" in my logs?
[11:45] <rednaxel> sethk, I'll google for that
[11:45] <erUSUL> fletch33, try running it in a terminal (it is a bash script)
[11:45] <sethk> rednaxel, man xmodmap might be enough
[11:45] <grabakov> It stops while X is loading and the screen floods with text. After that, it asks if I want to inspect the log. When I click no, I'm back at the command line.
[11:45] <fletch33> erUSUL, what is the command for that i am still learning sorry
[11:45] <lightbright> how can I write direct from hard drive to my DVD writer?
[11:45] <sethk> grabakov, check the X log, see why it dies
[11:45] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, i assume it will be
[11:46] <grabakov> lightbright It stops while X is loading and the screen floods with text. After that, it asks if I want to inspect the log. When I click no, I'm back at the command line.
[11:46] <ElitePete> can anyone help me with an vmware question, the channel seems to be dead.
[11:46] <sethk> lightbright, unless it is DVD-RAM, you can't
[11:46] <lightbright> grabakov: ok at command line, edit your x config
[11:46] <dooglus> ElitePete: you probably need to ask the question
[11:46] <Fridge> evening all
[11:46] <lightbright> sethk: whats a dvd-ram?
[11:46] <grabakov> sethk, the log informs me that files are missing.
[11:46] <Chris_Tucker> soundray, i may just mod in a usb port that is at the top of the display or sticking straight up, close to the edge where the display folds
[11:46] <ElitePete> i have setup my nat.conf file in vmware but it still isn't opening the ports.
[11:46] <fletch33> erUSUL, i choose run in terminal and nothing happened
[11:47] <sethk> grabakov, then supply the missing files, or take the incorrect module statements out of xorg.conf
[11:47] <Chris_Tucker> but soundray, its looking like that page is only for that fox board
[11:47] <sklav> lightbright, if you have an ld dvd drive then you most likely have dvd-ram
[11:47] <lightbright> grabakov: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:47] <fletch33> erUSUL,  i really appreciate your help
[11:47] <sklav> oops i meant lg and not ld
[11:47] <sethk> lightbright, it's a DVD format that makes a DVD look like a random access device.  You treat DVD-RAM exactly as a hard drive
[11:47] <lightbright> grabakov: how can files be missing with a new fresh install?
[11:47] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, I pointed you to it because it claims that the d-link has a Ralink 2500 chipset
[11:47] <erUSUL> fletch33, open a terminal Applications>Accesories>Terminal and tipe bitpim in it then hit enter
[11:47] <Chris_Tucker> oh ok soundray
[11:47] <grabakov> sethk, they are fonts, I cannot simply remove them from the xorg.conf
[11:48] <sethk> lightbright, so you can cp to it, dd to it, tar to it,
[11:48] <lightbright> sethk: I heard there was a solution using "mkudffs /dev/hdc"
[11:48] <SAM_theman> is there a firefox 1.5 ".DEB" out there not .tar.gz
[11:48] <sethk> grabakov, you can, actually, but that's not causing your problem.
[11:48] <rui> bye
[11:48] <erUSUL> fletch33, what package is the one you are trying to run
[11:48] <erUSUL> ?
[11:48] <grabakov> sethk, Oh? What would you say is?
[11:48] <sethk> lightbright, I guess it depends on what you mean by write directly.  I don't think that writes directly, but check it out?
[11:48] <Fridge> anyone give me some advice on kismet and orinoco cards
[11:48] <sethk> grabakov, usually add or remove font paths
[11:49] <lightbright> sethk: according to Debian developer i need the udftools and "mkudffs /dev/hdc"
[11:49] <sethk> grabakov, or add a font server
[11:49] <fletch33> erUSUL, here is what i got http://pastebin.ca/34009
[11:49] <sethk> lightbright, as I said, I don't consider that a direct write, but if it does what you need, go for it.
[11:49] <soundray> Chris_Tucker, doesn't mean that it will necessarily work with any of the native drivers (rt2500usb or rt2570) -- I've had no end of trouble with a Belkin stick with that chipset.
[11:49] <SAM_theman> ok dudes i just install xmms-skins were the hell are they?
[11:49] <lightbright> sethk: ok
[11:49] <Delvien> Anyway to change the backgound color while the splash is loadin all the libs and stuff right after GDM login
[11:49] <grabakov> sethk, I don't understand why I need to do all these strange things - isn't Ubuntu a complete distro?
[11:50] <grabakov> sethk, I installed it from disc without incident. Only starting the damned thing gives problems.
[11:50] <Chris_Tucker> thanks soundray
[11:50] <markive> hi
[11:50] <sethk> grabakov, sure it is.  You would probably never have noticed the messages about fonts unless you had this problem that caused you to look into the x log
[11:51] <lightbright> grabakov: it comes complete!  you have the original 5.10 CD?
[11:51] <grabakov> sethk, so why wouldn't these fonts have been installed? It makes no sense?
[11:51] <sethk> grabakov, are you sure that you are telling us the first error in the X log, and that you see only fonts?
[11:51] <markive> i'm pulling my hair out trying to install anything else thats not in the repositorys :(
[11:51] <Quiky> Arg, will ask again.. How can I force libc6-dev to install despite the dep. warning that Libc6 is newer than the = ?
[11:51] <lightbright> grabakov: i installed it without any problems
[11:51] <sethk> grabakov, I've seen the same thing happen with fedora releases.  It's sloppy, but generally harmless
[11:51] <grabakov> sethk, I am quite sure.
[11:51] <erUSUL> fletch33, how have you instaled the program, with apt (synaptic)?
[11:51] <grabakov> sethk, and the resolution?
[11:51] <soundray> markive, describe your problem.
[11:51] <sethk> grabakov, I've never seen X kill itself because of font problems.
[11:51] <markive> i'm trying to install tbear-1.5
[11:52] <sethk> grabakov, usually ti will say something like "can't find mode"
[11:52] <grabakov> sethk, so then it's my gfx card?
[11:52] <DrScream> HiddenFly, is any default root pwd for "ubuntu 5.10" ?
[11:52] <markive> soundray make doesn't work  , make install etc
[11:52] <Hobbsee> !root
[11:52] <ubotu> The root password by default is disabled in Ubuntu. You can use sudo to get super user (root) privileges. For more information, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[11:52] <grabakov> sethk, it -did- say something like that.
[11:52] <sethk> grabakov, It may be, but I'm not sure.  Can you post the X log on a pastebit?
[11:52] <lightbright> DrScream: yes yours
[11:52] <sethk> grabakov, I believe you
[11:52] <DrScream> thx ;)
[11:52] <soundray> markive, have you done 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'?
[11:52] <fletch33> erUSUL,  no i used alien to convert then instyalled in in terminal with -dpkg -i
[11:52] <grabakov> sethk, does this pastebit work with irssi?
[11:52] <markive> nope hold on i'll do it now
[11:53] <Delvien> Anyone know how to change the background BEHIND the splash screen after you log into GDM ???
[11:53] <soundray> markive, it's a meta-package with a minimal set of developer tools.
[11:53] <grabakov> sethk, I am not familiar with it.
[11:53] <sethk> grabakov, paste bot works with a web browser, has nothing to do with IRC
[11:53] <fletch33> erUSUL,  it wasnt available in synaptic
[11:53] <markive> soundray thanksi'll try it
[11:53] <eobanb> Delvien, it's in the gnome preferences
[11:53] <erUSUL> fletch33, breezy comes with libtiff4 not 3. which program is?
[11:53] <sethk> grabakov, you go to the paste web site, and paste.  It gives you a URL.  then you paste the URL into your IRC client
[11:53] <grabakov> sethk, okay, I am going to boot up Ubuntu and return. Will you be here?
[11:53] <fletch33> erUSUL,  not sure what u mean
[11:54] <sethk> grabakov, yes, I'll be here for quite a while.  If I'm not here for a bit, I'm rebooting.  I'm porting linux to a new platform and rebooting frequently.
[11:54] <Delvien> eobanb i managed to change ths splash screen itself, but there is still that ugly brown color behind it. Am i missing an option??
[11:54] <eobanb> you can change the colour, Delvien
[11:54] <eobanb> look under Login, i think
[11:54] <grabakov> sethk, I'll be quick.
[11:54] <grabakov> bbias
[11:55] <KampfCaspar> Hi all!
[11:55] <Estel> hi :)
[11:55] <markive> soundray its doing something  ,
[11:55] <erUSUL> fletch33, that the program can not find a dll (win terminology) and won't run. in breezy you have libtiff4 and the program needs libtiff3
[11:55] <markive> soundray i think thats done
[11:55] <Delvien> eonbanb i dont have a login
[11:55] <markive> soundray now make will work?
[11:55] <fletch33> erUSUL,   so am i out of luck i really need this
[11:56] <soundray> markive, do you wanna risk trying? :)
[11:56] <sergio_> algieun que able en castellano
[11:56] <markive> soundray now doung it
[11:56] <markive> thanks
[11:56] <ElitePete> !rs
[11:56] <ubotu> ElitePete: I don't know
[11:56] <ElitePete> !es
[11:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:56] <fletch33> erUSUL,  it is the only reason i have to go back to windows all the time
[11:56] <sergio_> alex ablas ablas espaol
[11:57] <ElitePete> fletch33 what reason?
[11:57] <erUSUL> you can try a hack do sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3
[11:57] <erUSUL>  and then run sudo ldconfig
[11:57] <erUSUL> fletch33, try and run again the program
[11:57] <fletch33> erUSUL,  i need thhis program to work so i dont have to sign into windows to use it. it
[11:58] <grabakov> sethk: Hey
[11:58] <sethk> grabakov, got a URL?
[11:58] <lightbright> grabakov: hey
[11:58] <fletch33> erUSUL,  you want me to just click it and choose run in terminal
[11:58] <grabakov> sethk: Ummm... which URL? :)
[11:58] <grabakov> lightbright: hello there ;)
[11:59] <soundray> markive, you may also need to 'sudo apt-get install libbluetooth1-dev libdbus-1-dev'
[11:59] <erUSUL> fletch33, in a terminal run the two commands a gave you
[11:59] <An_Alias> hm, amibios version 1.19 doesn't seem to be detecting my ubuntu installation disk, and it's set to boot from cd-rom...
[12:00] <sethk> grabakov, I thought you were going to paste your X log file
[12:00] <fletch33> erUSUL, k
[12:00] <Delvien> eonbanb hehe hit new login and crashed.. Is there a speciffic app im supposed to run?