[17:18] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: if the problem is with unity then you can file a bug report, if the problem is the ati driver then there is simply nothing you can do
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> o and pd it used to work on other ubuntu 's
[17:19] <compdoc> hatchetjack, libvirt-bin is the only service set to run at boot on two of my systems, so that seems right
[17:19] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: a bit of lag seems like a small problem to justify getting rid of ubuntu
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> like 9.04
[17:19] <mcnesium> i want to use this webcam i have, lsusb says  Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:6028 Microdia Typhoon Easycam USB 330K (older)
[17:19] <McG-Lucky> till this one came out now it does not
[17:20] <compdoc> hatchetjack, do you use virt-manager?
[17:20] <andrew9183> hey guys, my friend is messing with my computer while i'm gone.  is there any way to lock access to everything without locking the computer?  i want him to try desperately for fun but not let him do anything
[17:20] <mcnesium> when i do ffmpeg -i /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-0c45_USB_camera-video-index0 image.jpg
[17:20] <mcnesium> it says /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-0c45_USB_camera-video-index0: Invalid data found when processing input
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> and the gcard was picket up from ubuntu it self
[17:20] <auronandace> McG-Lucky: if you are covinced it is a unity bug, file a bug report
[17:20] <gr33n7007h> how can I install flash player 11 on ubuntu 10.04 any ideas??
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> what the card
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> it self
[17:20] <Pici> !enter | McG-Lucky
[17:20] <McG-Lucky> or the drive
[17:20] <mcnesium> this is ubuntu server 11.10
[17:20] <jigspan> theadmin:there is no instructions it just wait for 7 seconds and boot normally then log on screen appear , there is no problem with restart
[17:23] <LinSkyrate> hi :) OK mabe this is stupid question but i ask anyway.. does anyone know howto start a private chat from irssi?
[17:24] <imbezol> /msg <username>
[17:24] <LinSkyrate> imbezol: ahh thnx :)
[17:24] <xangua> !partner | gr33n7007h
[17:24] <xangua> gr33n7007h: from the software center, you need to enable partner repos
[17:25] <damo22> which text editor lets me select text by columns and not sequentially by rows?
[17:25] <imbezol> damo22: vim can do that
[17:25] <compdoc> hatchetjack, on a fresh install of Ubuntu, it will install everything needed and set it up for you if you were to type:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm
[17:25] <damo22> imbezol: how
[17:25] <compdoc> hatchetjack, it also suggests packages you can install seperately, but those arent needed for most situations
[17:26] <damo22> imbezol: for example i want to highlight a fixed width of text and delete just that text
[17:26] <imbezol> damo22: instead of "v" to go into copy mode, do "shift-v"
[17:26] <imbezol> damo22: if you're doing the whole file you can also use "cut" at the command line to do it
[17:26] <compdoc> hatchetjack, the only other package I install is virt-manager
[17:27] <andrew9183> hey guys, my friend is messing with my computer while i'm gone.  is there any way to lock access to everything without locking the computer?  i want him to try desperately for fun but not let him do anything?
[17:27] <damo22> imbezol: no thats not quite what im after
[17:27] <damo22> imbezol: i want to select partial columns of say 10 lines
[17:28] <imbezol> damo22: did you try with vim? you can highlight a square area by moving up and right to highlight the box you want to delete, then hit "d" to make it disappear
[17:28] <damo22> imbezol: sort of like highlighting a block of text on the screen and deleting it from the screen
[17:29] <imbezol> damo22: yeah.. vim does exactly that.. you draw a box, then hit d to delete it
[17:29] <jiltdil> Is compiz working fine on 11.10?
[17:29] <kingfisher64> could someone please help me install a canon pixma mp495 printer/scanner? I've tried all sorts many times over and although ubuntu says a network printer is installed nothing prints. Jobs just freeze in the print queue.
[17:29] <Sargun_Screen> Hey, any idea when Firefox 10 is going to be pushed out to Ubuntu 11.04?
[17:30] <auronandace> jiltdil: try it and find out
[17:30] <damo22> imbezol: i cant make it work using shift-v
[17:30] <damo22> it highlights the whole line
[17:30] <imbezol> damo22: bah.. sorry, it's control-v
[17:31] <damo22> imbezol: THANKS!
[17:31] <imbezol> damo22: np
[17:32] <Hopsy> hey, how do I mount my HDD?
[17:32] <auronandace> !mount | Hopsy
[17:33] <DOjha00> hi
[17:34] <Hopsy> auronandace: what when I cant find the folder?
[17:34] <xangua> !info firefox natty | Sargun_Screen
[17:34] <Hopsy> to mount
[17:34] <marcappuccino> Can anyone help with display issues?
[17:34] <go^> Does anybody know any tool to use my Nokia (N97 mini) with Ubuntu 11.10? Something like OVI Pc Suite..
[17:34] <auronandace> Hopsy: you specify a mountpoint
[17:34] <Hopsy> auronandace: 2 sectors of my HDD isn't doing well
[17:35] <Hopsy> auronandace: how :O ?
[17:35] <biohazard135> hey, my computer is still crashing, i think it may actually be overheating (it's a cheap toshiba) is there any app equivalent to speccy?
[17:35] <biohazard135> need to monitor the degrees on this thing
[17:35] <marcappuccino> I am stuck on 1024x768 resolution and the screen is identified as unknown on sys settings
[17:36] <auronandace> Hopsy: your partitions should be visable/mountable under /media/ (what do you see under /media/?)
[17:37] <DOjha00> Hi, i m new to this server ....Is anyone can see me??
[17:37] <hatchetjack> compdoc: I use virt-manager
[17:37] <compdoc> me too
[17:37] <auronandace> DOjha00: yes, need help?
[17:37] <hatchetjack> compdoc: I can use commandline also but well I'm lazy
[17:37] <hatchetjack> virt-manager is good for lazy people
[17:37] <compdoc> naw
[17:38] <compdoc> its just good
[17:38] <Hopsy> auronandace: I am now on windows
[17:38] <DOjha00> No thanks
[17:38] <Hopsy> I will check that in a minute
[17:38] <hatchetjack> I wonder why I get permissions problems
[17:38] <DOjha00> i was just checking.
[17:39] <Hopsy> hatchetjack: you are not super user?
[17:39] <Hopsy> auronandace: I dont see anything in media
[17:40] <Hopsy> but I can see my HDD is connected in disk utility
[17:40] <auronandace> Hopsy: what does it show: sudo fdisk -l
[17:41] <Hopsy> with some vague 'current pending sector count' error
[17:41] <biohazard135> -_- it happened again! the only word i caught was "udev", pretty sure it's overheating.
[17:41] <auronandace> Hopsy: sounds like you disk is failing, hope you made backups of what you need
[17:43] <hatchetjack> Hopsy: happens whether I am super or not
[17:43] <rick_> very sorry to be off topic but i cant find a cpu channel that is busy enough to get ansers any help is desparetly appreciated im trying to stay as close to ubuntu topic as possible
[17:44] <Oer> rick_, try ##hardware
[17:44] <biohazard135> ok, my cpu is ~44 degrees, that can't be overheating right?
[17:45] <compdoc> hatchetjack, I think virt-manager connects to the service by the loop-back. Maybe your network or host file is messed up. try the coomand line and see if you have the same problems
[17:47] <DOjha00> Hey, Is anyone can help me ??   kget is not working properly .
[17:49] <wodim> yes hello i have a problem with ubuntu what's mark shuttleworth's phone number
[17:49] <soicon> biohazard135: well, mines are 40 and 43, 45 sometimes but it's fine. no suddenly shutdown
[17:50] <biohazard135> soicon: do you have any idea what it could be, someone suggested looking into a chipset driver update, but i don't know where to begin with that.
[17:51] <soicon> biohazard135: your laptop's fan is working well, rite? and what is the laptop's model?
[17:51] <biohazard135> soicon: fans are ok, i could airdust them though. toshiba satellite c6600
[17:51] <Zw> Hi, I just installed tight VNC on my ubuntu server, but i do not have anything else :P
[17:52] <Zw> need kind of GUI or something
[17:52] <compdoc> a client
[17:52] <soicon> biohazard135: how old ?
[17:52] <compdoc> I dont like tightvnc, myself
[17:52] <biohazard135> soicon: uh, a few months
[17:53] <soicon> biohazard135: well, did it happen before? (overheating shutdown)
[17:54] <biohazard135> soicon: no, i was on windows 7 until recently never had any issues.
[17:54] <rty54> hi
[17:55] <soicon> biohazard135: did you upgrade the kernel ?
[17:55] <biohazard135> soicon: no, clean install of 11.10
[17:55] <rty54> www.mmircalem.com
[17:56] <slorbast> Ubuntu have a graphical access log analyzer for Apache. I'd use Libre Calc, but I'm guessing there's already something existing that does that.
[17:57] <slorbast> That first sentence is a question. :x
[17:57] <compdoc> what is the difference between the desktop and alternate downloads?
[17:58] <auronandace> compdoc: the alternate has a textbased installer (well, ncurses)
[17:58] <compdoc> ahh - thanks
[17:58] <auronandace> compdoc: no worries :)
[17:58] <Oer> compdoc, the alternate installer gives you raid setup
[18:00] <jiri> hi, I have problem. I changed the xorg.conf and now ubuntu doesn't like to boot anymore. Also ctrl+alt+F1 does not work.. any idea?
[18:00] <soicon> biohazard135: try installing cpufrequtils and decreasing the CPU freq, it may help temporarily
[18:01] <biohazard135> soicon: thanks
[18:02] <soicon> biohazard135: the heat mainly come from the cores (and graphic card, if available) and cause I'm still on 10.04 so I can't help you much.
[18:03] <bobweaver> hello there is it real bad that my swap is at max ? what will it do to a computer ? can I make swap larger ?
[18:04] <shadaloo> hi
[18:04] <shadaloo> what does %s mean
[18:05] <bobweaver> shadaloo:  in printf ?
[18:05] <shadaloo> ln
[18:05] <jiri> pls, how to get in safe mode on boot in ubuntu 11.10
[18:05] <shadaloo> ln %s
[18:05] <downbeam> can some one help me?
[18:06] <soicon> jiri: safe mode? you meant single user more (root shell) ?
[18:06] <jiri> soicon: yes
[18:06] <mustafaerhann> helloo there.
[18:07] <downbeam> hello all
[18:07] <bobweaver> shadaloo:  like this
[18:07] <soicon> jiri: hold Shift as booting, shown the menu, choosing Recovery mode then selecting root shell, input your root password. youre in
[18:07] <mustafaerhann> helloo
[18:08] <bobweaver> shadaloo: like this ? : printf '%s = %d\n' Lines $LINES
[18:08] <bobweaver> that %s
[18:08] <bobweaver> if so do a man print
[18:08] <downbeam> what a man print?
[18:09] <UICTamale> hi all, I'm unable to boot into my ubuntu 11.10 install.  It keeps hanging at 'checking battery state'.    I've tried setting and un-setting kernel mode settings, reinstalling the amd open-source drivers, the amd closed-source drivers, and re-installing lightdm, all without helping.  Please assist!
[18:09] <llutz> shadaloo: you mean  this example sudo-exploit? "ln -s /usr/bin/sudo ./%s"
[18:09] <jiri> soicon: thx, that works!
[18:09] <downbeam> wil anyone help me here?
[18:09] <mustafaerhann> hello downbeam
[18:10] <shadaloo> ln
[18:10] <shadaloo> what does %s mean
[18:10] <shadaloo> ln %s
[18:10] <downbeam> ok so i can't burn cds with lubuntu
[18:10] <downbeam> is the drive not mounted properly?
[18:10] <shadaloo> downbeam
[18:10] <mustafaerhann> what u using.
[18:10] <shadaloo> no one smart is here atm
[18:10] <bobweaver> downbeam:  install k3b
[18:10] <shadaloo> good luck
[18:11] <mustafaerhann> :D yea +1 to bobweaver.
[18:11] <mustafaerhann> k3b is almost best.
[18:11] <bobweaver> you can also see if it is mounted or seen with a: sudo fdisk -l
[18:11] <soicon> yeah, k3b, i love it too.
[18:11] <bobweaver> I( think
[18:12] <downbeam> i'll try it bob
[18:12] <mustafaerhann> faster than nero in windows
[18:12] <bobweaver> downbeam:  nope make sure therre is a cd or dvd in the drive 1st
[18:12] <mustafaerhann> nero 20min  full 1 dvd write time.   k3b only 4 min. :D
[18:12] <downbeam> there is
[18:13] <bobweaver> good
[18:13] <downbeam> but it didn't tell me anything
[18:13] <nixbox> hi all, i am using gnome-terminal in Ubuntu 11.10, i just had a problem after displaying some proc files. When I press enter in the terminal, the prompt appears on the same line, instead of the next line, also, whatever i type is not shown in the terminal, although it gets executed. Like if i type ls, it would show me the directory listing but will not show me the keystrokes of the command, is there a way to fix this without killing t
[18:13] <downbeam> do i need a graphics driver?
[18:13] <bobweaver> dont know so you ?
[18:14] <bobweaver> downbeam:  let us see a lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:14] <jag> nixbox, type "reset<enter>", this command resets the terminal but not the bash session
[18:14] <Tm_T> nixbox: does it make any difference if you hit ctrl+l
[18:14] <bobweaver> downbeam:  you also have install ubuntu-restreted -extra   ?
[18:15] <hatchetjack> looks like commandline virt-install fails as well
[18:15] <nixbox> jag: awesome, that fixed it, thanks! :)
[18:15] <hatchetjack> :(
[18:15] <hatchetjack> I don't wanna use virtualbox
[18:15] <downbeam> bob that is too intriquet for me
[18:15] <bobweaver> downbeam:  yep
[18:15] <nixbox> Tm_T: its a "screen" terminal so Ctrl+L was not working
[18:16] <bobweaver> downbeam:  how long ago did you install ?
[18:16] <downbeam> sorry
[18:16] <Tm_T> nixbox: rogery
[18:16] <downbeam> like 1 month
[18:16] <bobweaver> downbeam:  you have medibuntu repo installed ?
[18:17] <bobweaver> downbeam: http://medibuntu.org/repository.php
[18:17] <downbeam> i dont know
[18:17] <bobweaver> do that 1st then we will make sure all codecs are there
[18:17] <bobweaver> downbeam:  ^^
[18:21] <bobweaver> downbeam:  after installing medibuntu do this in terminal:    sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install ubuntu-restricted-extras libdvdcss2 libdvdcss-dev
[18:22] <Buntbart> why not installing medibuntu-keyring?
[18:22] <BrandonNolet> Problem :S gnome-settings-daemon crashes after about 2 minutes of login. Ubuntu 12.04 Alpha 2(? just updated distro yesterday) How to fix? or even just recover it. It stops usage of the mouse completely
[18:23] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | BrandonNolet
[18:23] <bobweaver> BrandonNolet:  try  #ubuntu+1
[18:23] <jimmy_birer> ubottu nigger
[18:23] <bobweaver> !language | jimmy_birer
[18:24] <BrandonNolet> Thank you ubottu and bobweaver :D
[18:25] <indio> Hi. What's the command to get the message about pending updates after tty console login?
[18:26] <bobweaver> indio:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade     ?
[18:26] <compdoc> indio, I have one machine that lists temps and disk usage and pending updates at login - its nice
[18:26] <indio> I mean, that message that goes like this: "You have 1 security update pending. You have 0 packages updates pending".
[18:27] <bobweaver> compdoc:  this is done with motd ? (message of the day ? )
[18:27] <compdoc> bobweaver, Im not sure how it got installed
[18:28] <Zw> how to copy folder with scp?
[18:28] <compdoc> I do use apticron, so maybe thats part of what indio is looking for
[18:29] <Buntbart> ZW: scp -r
[18:29] <bobweaver> Zw:  like ythis >? scp  <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[18:29] <indio> Another question, what's the command to install only security updates?
[18:30] <Zw> folder, not file
[18:31] <Buntbart> ZW: yes that's scp -r user@host/home/user/folder .
[18:32] <Zw> tnx
[18:32] <Zw> was just me writing a string wrong ;P
[18:32] <SegF4ult> D: good god
[18:33] <SegF4ult> I found some Mt. Dew D:
[18:33] <Buntbart> ZW: another way is to use Nautilus, Thunar or whatever and type sftp://user@host in the address bar
[18:33] <fean0r> you can find the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[18:34] <andrew9183> hey guys my friend is messing wtih my computer by going into grub and adding his remote keys so he can ssh in.  is there any way to protect against this ?
[18:34] <bobweaver> andrew9183:  read the part about auth keys https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:35] <Buntbart> andrew9183: tell him...
[18:36] <fean0r> indio: you can find the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d/
[18:37] <indio> Thanks
[18:38] <mustafaerhann> bbbys
[18:44] <UeboK> hello, please help me with that problem ! cant fix it for 4 hours . http://doiop.com/page214
[18:45] <cfhowlett> !ask|ubbok
[18:46] <kapz> Installed ubuntu 11.10. I like unity so far...Q : which package or repo should I add to make ubuntu play all kinds of multimedia files like: avi/xvid/divx/flash/quicktime/mp3/mpeg/mkv/mp4 etc etc etc...?
[18:47] <cfhowlett> kapz: medibuntu or ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <pangolin> kapz: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <Buntbart> kapz: try vlc
[18:47] <kapz> ok...out of two which one?
[18:47] <pangolin> kapz: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:47] <yezariaely> anyone can help me: webcam on laptop does not work. Webcam is present in lsusb and lsmod | grep video has an entry video. My user is in group video as well. any ideas?
[18:48] <kapz> ok thanks pangolin :) Also is there a way to auto-hide side dock bar when on desktop?
[18:48] <pangolin> !ccsm | kapz
[18:49] <TomSlominski> Hello. I get signal 11 (segfault) on startx
[18:50] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: that is bad...
[18:50] <yezariaely> reinstall?
[18:50] <yezariaely> (startx)
[18:50] <TomSlominski> what, ubuntu or x?
[18:50] <yezariaely> gettint a segfault ;-)
[18:50] <yezariaely> getting
[18:50] <TomSlominski> yeah, i know that :P
[18:50] <TomSlominski> but what do you want me to reinstall?
[18:50] <TomSlominski> it starts fine on boot, but when i move my mouse it segfaults.
[18:51] <yezariaely> ah hmm
[18:51] <yezariaely> what do the logs say?
[18:52] <TomSlominski> let me have a look
[18:52] <yezariaely> how can I check if the correct driver for my webcam is loaded?
[18:52] <yezariaely> I do not have a /dev/video* file
[18:53] <starlocke1> ...
[18:53] <TomSlominski> my webcam crashes my entire laptop. that is quite annoying as well...
[18:54] <Steevca> I am having a problem with my wired network.
[18:54] <rhin0> question - 18 months ago obliterated completley a copy of windows on brand new dell laptop (didn't even boot it) - installed ubuntu ... now I need to sell the laptop.  The windows key on the back of the laptop is unreadable ... If I phone dell can I retrieve windows installation media for that machine?  The copy of windows previously on it was paid for.
[18:54] <Steevca> It's not detecting my connection.
[18:54] <cfhowlett> rhin0: you'd have to ask dell.
[18:54] <rhin0> ok
[18:55] <TomSlominski> well. X starts but when i try to utilise my touchpad everything goes straight to hell. ill send the logs over in a pastebin
[18:55] <donnieg> if the key is unreadable
[18:55] <donnieg> i think you may be screwed
[18:56] <rhin0> thought there'd be a record with dell
[18:56] <_Marcus> Steevca: Is your ethernet cable plugged in on both ends(your computer and router/wall jack)
[18:56] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: try attach an external mouse. does it work?
[18:56] <rhin0> so maybe you just need the key to re-install
[18:56] <rhin0> seems to me that the key/label is not designed to survive
[18:56] <rhin0> only label on back that is unreadable
[18:56] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, that crashes as well
[18:56] <yezariaely> then, the driver for your touchpad is broken
[18:56] <donnieg> well you can call microsoft and exchange anon working key for a working one for free through phone prompts
[18:56] <rhin0> the sort of crap microsoft would pull
[18:56] <rhin0> but I need the key
[18:56] <donnieg> but I don't know about dell replacing them, I've never heard of that
[18:57] <donnieg> If you have the order number it may be in there
[18:57] <Steevca> _Marcus Yes,it worked earlyer but now it's not working.
[18:57] <yezariaely> I don't think that they do know which keys they have given to which computer
[18:57] <cfhowlett> donnieg: few systems are sold these days WITH the install media.  You have to request it.
[18:57] <_Marcus> Steevca: Did it get unplugged during that time?
[18:58] <yezariaely> anyone has a hint for builtin webcam which does not work? (lsusb shows it, yet there is no /dev/video)
[18:58] <rhin0> something of reply on web "Vendors don't keep a record of serial numbers on their system.  Thei standard answer is it is on the base of the system.  If you can't read it then tough luck and you need to buy a new license."
[18:58] <rhin0> thats absolutely disgusting
[18:58] <donnieg> that does suck
[18:58] <rhin0> im sick of paying for windows I don't use
[18:58] <rhin0> the pc tax
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: s76? :)
[18:59] <rhin0> s76?
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: system76
[18:59] <Steevca> _Marcus Nope.I had linux about a month ago installed i have tryed to install it now but i cant,also on fedora and joli os.
[18:59] <_Marcus> rhin: Then use Ubuntu :P
[18:59] <rhin0> whats system 76
[18:59] <Steevca> *It's not working.
[18:59] <TomSlominski> rhin0: they make ubuntu computers. without windows :)
[18:59] <donnieg> yeah
[18:59] <Syph3r> thats a better idea
[18:59] <donnieg> some dells and lenovos can be bought sans os
[19:00] <Syph3r> yea some t61p
[19:01] <tarvid> Given a url, what us the easiest GUI way to add a trusted key to apt?
[19:02] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:04] <TomSlominski> http://paste.ubuntu.com/831732/ this is the x log. it starts getting interesting at about 575
[19:04] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: did you try the external mouse?
[19:04] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, yeah, that crashes it as well
[19:06] <tarvid> is there a GUI way to add a trusted key to APT from a URL ?
[19:07] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: sounds like a bug in touchpad's device driver for me
[19:07] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, it worked yesterday :/
[19:07] <yezariaely> tarvid: I suppose xterm does not count? :-p
[19:07] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: what did you change, then?
[19:08] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, actually nothing. i might have updated the system. can you view apt history?
[19:08] <tarvid> Not really. I did what I want to do from the command line but I can see a way to do it through software sources
[19:09] <jerichowasahoax> I'm running an email server (dovecot+I forgot the SMTP right now). Is there a program I can install to have it automatically act on emails based on certain rules?
[19:09] <zleap> hello
[19:09] <dejan7> buonasera a tutti
[19:10] <cfhowlett> !it|dejan7
[19:10] <cfhowlett> zleap: greetings
[19:10] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: /var/log/dpkg
[19:11] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, there isnt one
[19:12] <yezariaely> TomSlominski: Sorry, that was only an abbreviation
[19:12] <yezariaely> I think it is a folder or something
[19:12] <TomSlominski> yezgot it
[19:12] <TomSlominski> yezariaely, got it
[19:15] <skyler_> Can somebody help me?
[19:15] <skyler_> I ran ulimit -v 20000 and now I can't raise the limit again.
[19:17] <Tucks> Does Jupiter actually slow down your laptop/netbook even if you have it set to High Performance?
[19:17] <TomSlominski> yeah, ive updated my ssystem last night. update manager ran a full on system update.
[19:17] <varg> !list
[19:22] <Mike9863> Is there a way to make it so when I middle click or scroll on the title of a window it will minimize?
[19:25] <TomSlominski> xserver-common got updated last night. that will probably be it
[19:25] <philwong> hi
[19:25] <cfhowlett> philwong: greetings
[19:25] <philwong> how much does it cost to hire someone to build your own version of linux?
[19:26] <pangolin> !remaster | philwong
[19:26] <philwong> no no
[19:26] <philwong> I need more invloved modifications
[19:26] <philwong> like caps lock antistick
[19:26] <pangolin> philwong: that is not on topic for this channel.
[19:27] <philwong> ok
[19:27] <philwong> where can I discuss it?
[19:27] <pangolin> maybe try ##linux
[19:27] <cfhowlett> philwong: @linux
[19:27] <richman> òóê-òóê-òóê... åñòü ðóñêîãîâîðÿùèå?
[19:28] <ppetraki> I see that gnome-open is part of the default install for precise anymore, is there a replacement to open files from CLI associated with a mimetype?
[19:28] <ppetraki> s/is/isn't/
[19:28] <theadmin> philwong: You want to disable capslock?... That's an incredibly simple task acomplishable with one command, you don't need to hire someone for that...
[19:28] <philwong> no
[19:29] <Gentoo64> your in the wong channel
[19:29] <Gentoo64> haha
[19:29] <richman> æàëü....
[19:29] <philwong> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/plz-fix-the-caps-lock-response-time-glitch-in-linux-distros-881317/
[19:30] <philwong> this is the issue
[19:30] <pangolin> richman: Please stop that
[19:31] <theadmin> richman: English only in this channel. Also, Unicode plz.
[19:31] <congressmon> I have an issue with trying to install linux ... I have a windows based sys already ... trying to install to either usb stick or usb hdd...
[19:32] <pangolin> !usb | congressmon
[19:32] <congressmon> it's like this machine won't let me install linux using simple methods... or without obliterating current OS which is not an option
[19:32] <rhizmoe> my pulseaudio mixer panel thingy seems to have gotten decoupled from my music player. is there a non-rebooty way of fixing this?
[19:32] <congressmon> I've tried everything ... even the simple WUBI
[19:32] <congressmon> pangolin ..
[19:33] <congressmon> what's the command to quiet all the chatter about entering and leaving users???
[19:34] <_Marcus> congressmon: I think that depends on your IRC client
[19:34] <theadmin> congressmon: Depends on your client
[19:34] <pangolin> /ignore JOINS QUITS PARTS
[19:34] <congressmon> thank u pangolin
[19:34] <theadmin> pangolin: Hm... on irssi, that would ignore QUITS and PARTS from user "JOINS" (makes no sense)
[19:34] <pangolin> that should work on most 'real" irc clients
[19:34] <theadmin> /ignore * JOINS QUITS PARTS NICKS
[19:34] <theadmin> Makes more sense :D
[19:35] <congressmon> it's calmed down some ..
[19:35] <congressmon> thanks
[19:35] <skyler_> does anyone know how to raise ulimit after you lower it?
[19:36] <congressmon> in any case... Pangolin ... I've tried all kinda automatic USB installers including WUBI
[19:37] <pangolin> congressmon: without more information, such as errors you are getting, it will be difficult to guide you.
[19:37] <congressmon> ok .. but now ur talkin
[19:37] <congressmon> "No translation file found for domain" is the error and then the log file location
[19:38] <congressmon> that's for WUBI
[19:38] <philwong> questions
[19:38] <philwong> is there a linux school
[19:38] <philwong> how do you learn such a complex OS?
[19:38] <philwong> well ubuntu ok
[19:38] <congressmon> Phil ... you learn Linux by reading tutorials and manuals
[19:38] <theadmin> philwong: Linux isn't complex. It's much simplier than Windows.
[19:39] <_Marcus> philwong: I don't know about a physical school, but there are many resources online
[19:39] <pangolin> same way you learned how to use windows
[19:39] <philwong> nooo
[19:39] <philwong> not simpler than windows
[19:39] <_Marcus> philwong: If you ate cherioes all your life, and then decided to eat something else, how do you think it would taste?
[19:39] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that are white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window).
[19:39] <theadmin> philwong: Much, much simplier, especially internally. Trust me, /dev/sda1 is a much more obvious name than "Volume{74cbc440-e365-11e0-ad59-806e6f6e6963}" :P
[19:39] <pangolin> philwong: anyway, this is still offtopic. We do Ubuntu support here, for general linux support use ##linux
[19:40] <philwong> fine ubuntu could be simple
[19:40] <CountVonCount> Hey folks, quick keyboard question:  My numberpad does not seem to work (num lock works but nothing else).  I've tried to change the settings, but was unable to find my actual keyboard's manufacturer...
[19:40] <congressmon> it's simpler if you're technical... but if you're a user it's sort of cryptic which is how windows likes ppl to be
[19:40] <jason___> Does anybody know of a media player that allows the user to search for educational content within it? I'm curious to find an "iTunes U" like alternative for our Ubuntu systems at work since some people are getting attached to iTunes U and we're moving away from Win/Apple systems. Any input?
[19:40] <Slart> These "artifacts" disappear when I reboot but return after a while
[19:40] <philwong> what about the slackware guys
[19:40] <philwong> that aint easy at all
[19:40] <congressmon> "No translation file found for domain" is the error and then the log file location .. that's in WUBI
[19:40] <pangolin> !ot > philwong
[19:40] <Slart> Here's a screenshot of the weirdness.. http://imagebin.org/197646  can anyone explain this?
[19:40] <philwong> haha ok
[19:40] <philwong> srry
[19:41] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:41] <congressmon> Pangolin .....
[19:41] <skyler_> was that a net split?
[19:42] <yezariaely> anyone has a samsung laptop with a builtin webcam who can help me getting it work?
 Sorry, I don't know anything about poop
[19:42] <pangolin> congressmon: the link ubottu gave you earlier about how to install to USB should be a some assistance
[19:42] <yezariaely> skyler_: it did say so ...
[19:42] <congressmon> I downloaded the ISO file and burned it ...  no boot from CD ... settings correct in BioS
[19:42] <congressmon> I've read that before
[19:43] <congressmon> I've tried those USB Installers ... including Unetbootin
[19:44] <openvoid> !nounity
[19:44] <marcuswe> Hi everyone, I'm new here and have a question, do I just type it in here?
[19:45] <jason___> yes
[19:45] <goddard> can some one tell me how i connect to team foundation server in linux?
[19:45] <yezariaely> congressmon: what exactly does not work?
[19:45] <levifig> what's the partition utility that is part of Ubuntu *Server* installation?
[19:46] <yezariaely> levifig: fdisk maybe?
[19:46] <yezariaely> levifig: cfdisk is 'more' gui-like
[19:46] <nils-> I think it uses parted
[19:47] <xh> hi! excuse me, but how the .... can i disable auto-maximize in lubuntu lxde? i find it inhuman..
[19:48] <celestius> my default libmysql client is set to libmysqlclient16 instead of 18, which is what i need, though i have some packages which need 16 (i think their package descriptions just might not have been updated). how should i change this?
[19:48] <IanWizard> xh, don't use lxde :P
[19:48] <IanWizard> xh, joking, I believe that it's in the settings.  but I haven't used LXDE in a while
[19:49] <Newb> is there a way from command line to turn off the fan?
[19:49] <IanWizard> Newb, yes
[19:49] <skyler_> what channel do I go to get help with servers?
[19:49] <congressmon> I get no action from boot ...
[19:49] <PW-toXic> hi, I changed a setting in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and saved it. then i did /etc/init.d/apache2 restart, but the changes did not change the behavior of php.. is there any trick?
[19:49] <IanWizard> Newb, if you go to /sys/class/hwmon
[19:49] <congressmon> no boot
[19:49] <IanWizard> the fan is somewhere below that, you'll have to find it for your system though
[19:49] <xh> IanWizard: it looks like it is not an lxde thing, but a -buntu thing, googling said that it must be configurable via ccsm but it is not in the standard repos, at least not in lubuntu
[19:50] <congressmon> skips down to windows disk and starts windows...
[19:50] <yezariaely> congressmon: the bootloader does start?
[19:50] <Newb> IanWizard, and do what
[19:50] <marcuswe> Ok thanks, I've just installed 11.10 and trying to get my bluetooth wireless keyboard connected, the mouse was found in bluetooth devices and is working, but the keyboard did not. They connect to the same USB dongle. Why does it not find the keyboard. The keyboard is: Microsoft Optical Desktop for Bluetooth Keyboard. Someone have a clue?
[19:50] <congressmon> no
[19:50] <TomSlominski> ##fedora
[19:50] <congressmon> no bootloader
[19:50] <IanWizard> Newb, echo 0 > pwm1
[19:50] <TomSlominski> fail, that is not how you join a channel tom! sorry
[19:50] <yezariaely> yezariaely: is the bootloader installed in MBR?
[19:50] <malkauns> is there any quick proxy switching software for 11.10?
[19:50] <IanWizard> Newb, for me, your file may be different
[19:50] <yezariaely> congressmon: is the bootloader installed in MBR
[19:51] <Newb> IanWizard, and to turn back on
[19:51] <congressmon> how do I check the MBR for a USB stick ?
[19:51] <yezariaely> similar as with a hdd
[19:51] <IanWizard> Newb, echo <speed> > pwm1
[19:51] <IanWizard> where speed is a number between 1, and 255
[19:51] <Newb> IanWizard, tkx
[19:51] <congressmon> it's supposed to be automatically done by the installer ... right?
[19:51] <IanWizard> Newb, np, it working?
[19:51] <larbeem> hello
[19:52] <congressmon> at least it says it's doing that in the details
[19:52] <Newb> IanWizard, im gonna try now
[19:52] <yezariaely> congressmon: kind of, did you check your usb stick on different computers?
[19:52] <IanWizard> Newb, oh, you'll have to echo 1 > pwm1_enable first
[19:52] <Guest13384> sometimes the computer just shuts down in the middle of use ubuntu 11.10
[19:53] <congressmon> no I didn't check it on another machine
[19:53] <Guest13384> is there anywhere to review logs of these occurrences? The machine is set not to go into sleep or hibrination
[19:53] <yezariaely> congressmon: can you? is there some other machine around?
[19:53] <rfuller> help
[19:53] <ariana> Guest13384 /var/log
[19:53] <yezariaely> rfuller: Unknown command
[19:53] <congressmon> I'm also trying to install it on a USB hdd I have
[19:53] <IanWizard> Guest13384, it may be overheating, it has an auto shutdown
[19:54] <m0r0n> How can I unistall Glib? Latest ubuntu currently
[19:54] <yezariaely> congressmon: you tried netbootin?
[19:54] <congressmon> yeah UNetbootin
[19:54] <Newb> IanWizard, no joy
[19:54] <Guest13384> IanWizard, is there some app I can run to monitor the cpu temp
[19:54] <Newb> tks any way
[19:54] <yezariaely> congressmon: did you take a look at the MBR of the usb stick?
[19:55] <Guest13384> ariana, there are lots of files there which one should I start with?
[19:55] <IanWizard> Guest13384, a number, but it will depend on what you want, gnome has an applet, e17 has an applet
[19:55] <IanWizard> gkrellm should do it
[19:55] <IanWizard> Newb, hmm, do:  ls /sys/class/hwmon
[19:55] <malkauns> is there any quick proxy switching software for 11.10?
[19:55] <IanWizard> Newb, and what's listed?
[19:56] <congressmon> yezz..   I'm not sure if I'm lookin at the right thing ...
[19:56] <congressmon> as far as MBR
[19:56] <ariana> Guest13384 might be syslog
[19:56] <congressmon> on a USB stick
[19:57] <ariana> Guest13384 tail syslog
[19:57] <IanWizard> Guest13384, /var/log/syslog
[19:57] <Newb> IanWizard, name  power  subsystem  temp1_crit  temp1_input  uevent, no problem ill work it out another time
[19:57] <IanWizard> ariana, tail probably wont get it, I had to dig when it was happening to me.
[19:58] <Newb> IanWizard, g2g tks anyway
[19:58] <ariana> IanWizard, ok then gedit or something
[19:58] <Guest13384> IanWizard, ariana, thanks, will give it a look
[19:58] <Steevca> Ok,so i am having problems with my network adpater.I have TP-LINK TF-3200 and it's not detected on Ubuntu 11.10,Fedora 15 and Joli OS all are 32 bit.So i asume that drivers are the problem because on windows xp pro it's working fine.
[19:58] <Steevca> How can i fix it?
[19:58] <Guest13384> IanWizard, ariana, I know I prob need to clean the heatsink
[19:58] <benbloom_> I;m having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. is there somewhere else that thunderbird settings are stored for use with kde?
[19:58] <marcuswe> Someone know how or can redirect me to a forum to wich I would be able to find out how to get my bluetooth keyboard connected, it does not show up on devices when I search. The mouse however do, and it is connected to the same microsoft usb bluetooth dongle.
[19:59] <IanWizard> Newb, that's for the temp probe, not for the fan, that should be under something like /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0, not just /hwmon
[19:59] <ariana> marcuswe, have you tried wrapped driver?
[20:00] <cfhowlett> Confirmed - my optical drive has died.  /jackbauermode: on DAMMIT!
[20:00] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that are white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window). Here's a screenshot of the problem. http://imagebin.org/197646 . Does anyone know what this is? how to fix it?
[20:00] <marcuswe> adriana, no I have'nt. Where can I find that?
[20:01] <congressmon> I shouldn't have to FDISK it should I? ??
[20:01] <ariana> marcuswe, try some googling about ndiswrapper
[20:01] <Steevca> Anyone?
[20:01] <marcuswe> ariana, thanks I'll do that.
[20:02] <IanWizard> djQuery, word of advice...
[20:02] <IanWizard> djQuery,     grep -R 'crit' /var/log/syslog
[20:03] <fellayaboy> im sshed into a remote server...if i want to scp..i would have to have the router on my local network opened for ssh??
[20:04] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no
[20:04] <fellayaboy> i never used scp before
[20:04] <Steevca> Ok,so i am having problems with my network adpater.I have TP-LINK TF-3200 and it's not detected on Ubuntu 11.10,Fedora 15 and Joli OS all are 32 bit.So i asume that drivers are the problem because on windows xp pro it's working fine.
[20:04] <fellayaboy> so i would just put in my username@and public ip address when i scp
[20:05] <fellayaboy> so i woudl be like this... scp remoteusername@publicipaddress mylocalusername@ipaddress?
[20:05] <blinkoss> Anyone know whyh in 2012 it still takes 6 minutes for an Intel Core 2 Duo machine to boot up and log in?
[20:05] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, just disconnect (or open another terminal), and scp user@host:file local_path
[20:05] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, that assumes that you're copping FROM the server, to go to, you'd use the local_path first
[20:05] <yezariaely> congressmon: are you on windows or linux?
[20:06] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:06] <djQuery> IanWizard, doesnt bring up anything
[20:06] <IanWizard> djQuery, then that's probably not your problem
[20:06] <ericus> How would I change that to get gnome-terminal to open and run that command via alt+f2 blinkenshell
[20:06] <ericus> ?
[20:07] <IanWizard> *probably*
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no, you'd be like scp username@publicipaddress ./file
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, no, you'd be like scp username@publicipaddress:/home/username/file  ./file
[20:07] <m0r0n> How can I re-install glib
[20:07] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, ignore the first one
[20:07] <congressmon> I'm using Windows Vista
[20:08] <congressmon> 32-bit
[20:08] <congressmon> CPU AMD64 Athlon x2
[20:09] <eukreign> Makefile question: I'm using a make file for collecting random bits of shell commands that I want to execute in my project but this becomes problematic since Makefile checks for filename first, so I have to use .PHONY. I would like to be able to say that all targets in a Makefile are PHONY, is there a way to do that? and finally, is there an alternative to Makefiles that would let me do the same thing? (one other annoy
[20:09] <fellayaboy> im trying to copy from the remote server im sshed into lets say my remote username is mrhand and my local is fellayaboy
[20:10] <fellayaboy> IanWizard,
[20:10] <fellayaboy> how would that work cuz im a little confused
[20:10] <Toctiz> hi is this the ubuntu chat room?
[20:10] <Pimo> where can i find my output like vga-0?
[20:10] <IanWizard> fellayaboy, you copy from one location (a server), to another (the local file system), assuming that your filename is myfile:
[20:10] <Toctiz> ?
[20:11] <Toctiz> UBUNTU DONT WORK
[20:11] <fellayaboy> alright so i would scp mrhand@itspublicipaddress:home/mrhand/myfile ./myfile... thats it?
[20:11] <IanWizard> scp mrhand@address:/home/mrhand/myfile ./myfile
[20:11] <Toctiz> after a time the screen goes purple after the boot menu
[20:11] <m0r0n> Toctiz: read the topic.
[20:11] <Toctiz> ok
[20:11] <fellayaboy> ok
[20:11] <fellayaboy> brb ima see if that worked
[20:12] <Toctiz> oh sorry i am using a chat client
[20:12] <xubanchu> how do i set the mac address on wakeup from sleep?
[20:12] <Toctiz> is the "purple screen" fixed?
[20:12] <echo083> ubuntu is great
[20:12] <Toctiz> yeah i know
[20:13] <Steevca> Ok,how can i install this driver.It has a compact.h,crc32.h,ethtool.h,makefile,mii.c,mii.h and sundance_main.c ???
[20:13] <IanWizard> Toctiz, it's not broken, it's supposed to do that
[20:13] <Toctiz> i like it but i get the purple screen after the grub menu
[20:13] <theadmin> Steevca: makefile :P Just type "make"
[20:13] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>How would I make it possible to run in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell?
[20:13] <Toctiz> but thats all it does it stays blank and purple
[20:13] <Steevca> theadmin Oh,so i put it on a flash drive and but it on a linux.
[20:14] <theadmin> Steevca: Well cd to the proper folder and "make"
[20:14] <Steevca> Will it just start to install or what? I am kinda new with this.
[20:14] <ariana> Toctiz start it via console in grub
[20:14] <ariana> Toctiz startx
[20:14] <Steevca> theadmin And the proper folder is? xD
[20:14] <Toctiz> how do i do that?
[20:14] <theadmin> Steevca: How am I supposed to know -_- wherever you put it
[20:14] <Toctiz> i used the wubi installation
[20:14] <fellayaboy> i dont know whats going on i was able to cd into a directory now its saying permission denied..i didnt modify the folder...its a keys folder from openvpn any ideas?
[20:14] <m0r0n> How can I re-install glib?
[20:14] <Steevca> theadmin Oh,you mean i can put it anywhere?
[20:15] <theadmin> Steevca: Yeah, long as it's all in the same place and the makefile is there :D Then go there and type in "make && sudo checkinstall"
[20:15] <ariana> Toctiz, for me it was recovery mode in grub and then on the black screen the command startx
[20:15] <theadmin> Steevca: But first... sudo apt-get install build-essential flex bison m4 checkinstall
[20:15] <reef> Hi, new to ubuntu. got a sony laptop running ubuntu only, need to add a windows .exe file to bios for a new battery. anyone know an easy way?
[20:15] <ariana> Toctiz, but the blank screen happend to me many times in new ubuntu
[20:16] <Toctiz> ok thanks :)
[20:16] <ariana> Toctiz, I mean there is sthing with those new versions
[20:16] <Toctiz> yes i amusing the new version aswell
[20:16] <Toctiz> i thing i will get a older version :)
[20:16] <rata> Hi
[20:16] <Toctiz> HI
[20:17] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>How would I make it possible to make it open in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell? Right now I first need to open a terminal and then enter blinkenshell.
[20:17] <Steevca> theadmin Thanks.
[20:17] <ariana> Toctiz, rather after fresh install dont update some things through update manager, there are some bugs or something, then U should rather use LTS, for me LTS was better
[20:18] <Toctiz> ok
[20:18] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> evening, anyone having experience running libtrash with vsftp?
[20:19] <Bastian_B> Hi, is it possible to resize ubuntu partition to install another os next to it?
[20:19] <ariana> Bastian_B, it is possible
[20:20] <Bastian_B> ariana, nice to hear! Do you know a guide about it ?
[20:20] <ariana> Bastian_B, U should boot from Live CD or Live USB stick, then U should use gparted to resize partition
[20:20] <Toctiz> bye
[20:20] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> or alternativley how to add an export LD_PRELOAD to an vsftp running with inetd
[20:21] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[20:21] <Bastian_B> ariana, allright I see the trick, thanks a lot
[20:22] <IanWizard> I can't wait for the betterness that's 12.04
[20:22] <IanWizard> Wondering about rhythmbox though, it doesn't sync very well with my phone.
[20:22] <ariana> IanWizard, sometimes I think it goin down the hill with ubuntu in some aspects
[20:23] <ariana> IanWizard, maybe we should join the prog team :)
[20:24] <Itreof> I have seen and read about why Ubuntu Desktop 64-bit is not recommended and the 32-bit is. However, looking at the Ubuntu Server, 32-bit is not recommended and 64-bit is...now I am a little confused as to why? I would like to use a 32-bit server and a 64-bit OS, or just both as 32-bit. What is the difference between the two bits as far as server and desktop is concerned?
[20:24] <jrib> Itreof: if you have 4gb of ram or greater, use 64bit, end of story imo
[20:25] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> +
[20:25] <Zw_> Hi. I installed tightVNC, but do not have any GUI, do anyone know any good GUIs ? So i can connect to the server with vnc?
[20:25] <IanWizard> ariana, :)
[20:26] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> realvnc and tightvnc are available for various os
[20:26] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> the viewer is normally free
[20:27] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> or wait - do you want to connect to the cli with vnc??
[20:28] <Zw_> i did it before
[20:28] <Zw_> just have to install a desktop (ui)
[20:29] <Itreof> TC_UbuntuNewbee, I want to connect either way with vnc. However, I was just curious why the 64-bit version was recommended for server, and the 32-bit for client?
[20:29] <ericus> Hi! I have a question regarding .bashrc and aliases. I have this in .bashrc: alias blinkenshell='ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>How would I make it possible to run in gnome-terminal when I do alt+f2 and enter blinkenshell?
[20:30] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> sorry Itrefo, was talking about ZW_'s problem
[20:30] <Roachmmflhyr> Itreof, typically servers should have more RAM, if a server was running 32 bit OS then it was only be able to utilize 4 GB of RAM
[20:30] <fean0r> ericus: open terminal before starting ssh-session (like xterm -e ssh ...)
[20:32] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> anybody knows where to put an export LD_PRELOAD so vsftpd can use it? I want to protect the ftp share against accidental deletes
[20:36] <malev_> hello! what is the name of the last ubuntu release?
[20:36] <aeon-ltd> malev_: oneiric ocelot
[20:36] <SvenL-> Oneiric Ocelot, latest stable version maletor
[20:37] <SvenL-> oops, malev_*
[20:37] <hu-man_> rc.xs4all.nl 6664
[20:37] <malev_> Seveas, aeon-ltd thanks!!
[20:39] <dbugger> hey guys. Im using natty and Id like to add some repository to have a more updated version of virtualbox. Can someone recommend me any repository?
[20:40] <IanWizard> dbugger, oracle.com
[20:40] <dbugger> IanWizard, ive looked around but the downloaded version gives me a dependency error
[20:40] <IanWizard> dbugger, use gdebi
[20:40] <dbugger> IanWizard, I dont know how to use that. What is that?
[20:42] <Tiktalik> ugh
[20:42] <Tiktalik> so, my dad got this wireless adapter for his laptop that says "linux supported" on the box
[20:43] <Tiktalik> i need to compile a driver
[20:43] <Tiktalik> it is an asus USB-N13 wireless adapter
[20:43] <IanWizard> dbugger, sudo apt-get install gdebi-gtk
[20:43] <warfaren> thats usually not too hard, are you familiar with the make command?
[20:43] <TC_UbuntuNewbee>  @dbugger: Start at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDebi
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, then after that's done, use:    gdebi-gtk  <package_file_for_virtualbox>
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, it will resolve the deps for you.
[20:44] <Tiktalik> warfaren: yeah, I compile software a lot. anyway, in part of the instructions it says...
[20:44] <IanWizard> dbugger, and it seems to work much better than software-center
[20:44] <Tiktalik> warfaren: erm, may I PM you?
[20:44] <dbugger> IanWizard, gdebi-gtk doesnt appear in my repositories
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, are you using Ubuntu?
[20:45] <Slart> I've got a strange problem with my 64bit ubuntu 11.10 desktop. At my left border I have to very small areas (a couple of pixels wide) that is white, it's not a hardware defect since compiz has decided that these areas should be shadowed (like any normal window). Here's a screenshot of the problem. http://imagebin.org/197646 . Does anyone know what this is? how to fix it?
[20:45] <dbugger> IanWizard, natty
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, ahh, it's just gdebi in the repos
[20:45] <SvenL-> Anybody familiar with installing on recent laptops that are suspect to have UEFI bios support ?
[20:45] <warfaren> yeah but youre probably better off talking in this channel, most people are probably better than me anyways, Tiktalik
[20:45] <IanWizard> dbugger, , command is still -gtk though
[20:45] <warfaren> Tiktalik: but sure let me see what u habe to say
[20:46] <dbugger> IanWizard, it gives me the same error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7)
[20:46] <exiff> Hello,
[20:46] <rebe> what is best torrent downloader for ubuntu ?
[20:46] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> nobody ever needed to protect his ftp against accidental deletes?
[20:46] <IanWizard> dbugger, hmm, that's odd, have you messed witht he repos?
[20:46] <dbugger> IanWizard, no
[20:46] <IanWizard> dbugger, cause that should be no problem for it.
[20:46] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> @rebe - ask 5 ppl and you will get 5 answers :) personally I use Transmission
[20:47] <SvenL-> I use Transmission to
[20:47] <exiff> I'm having trouble with encryptfs in lucid. It seems to be filling up my hdd no matter what i do.
[20:47] <jpk> Question: Is there a way to associate a keypair with a particular host?  (So I don't have to give '-i path/to/key')
[20:47] <dbugger> IanWizard, I did nothing
[20:47] <SvenL-> because it was there by default on Debian
[20:47] <IanWizard> dbugger, you can make the dire +a or something, but that's FAR from ideal.
[20:47] <dbugger> IanWizard, i have no idea what that is
[20:47] <IanWizard> dbugger, hmm...
[20:48] <dbugger> but "dire" doesnt seem like a desirible idea to me
[20:49] <bchirls> How does one install linux-restricted-modules-XXX on oneiric? I'm looking at ubuntu community docs BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, which says I need those modules and the headers, but I cannot find them. Thanks.
[20:49] <nicholas_> how dose this work
[20:50] <dbugger> IanWizard, ...
[20:50] <IanWizard> bchirls, I suggest jockey if you're trying to get the nvidia drivers to work, but  as for your question, the -XXX isn't the actual module, it's a placeholder.  you *should* be able to just install ubuntu-restricted-modules, and it get it
[20:50] <IanWizard> dbugger, it's a scripting language
[20:51] <IanWizard> dbugger, and 2.7 is the current 2.x release, and I have running on several servers
[20:51] <dbugger> IanWizard, isnt there like some repository I could just add, that would update my virtualbox-ose automatically?
[20:51] <exiff> Any ideas of what to do with encryptfs?
[20:52] <bchirls> IanWizard: Thanks. Yes, I assume -XXX is to be replaced by a version number. apt-get doesn't seem to have ubuntu-restricted-modules-<anything>. All I see are ubuntu-restricted-addons and -extras. I don't know jockey, but I will google it...
[20:52] <propellerdnk1> I need help.I'm looking for Russian speaking members.  on channel # ubuntu-ru, I care not received
[20:53] <IanWizard> dbugger, not that I'm aware of, google would be the one to ask
[20:53] <propellerdnk1> I'm seek russian-langue  members
[20:53] <dbugger> IanWizard, I guess no the. Thanks for the help
[20:54] <IanWizard> propellerdnk1, we heard you, there just aren't any here right now.
[20:54] <IanWizard> exiff, use it to keep your files encrypted
[20:54] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> @dbugger: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads ?
[20:55] <cfhowlett> propellerdnk1: http://forum.ubuntu.ru/
[20:55] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib
[20:55] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> google is your friend :D
[20:55] <exiff> That's not my problem IanWizard, my problem is that it has eaten up all my disc space
[20:55] <IanWizard> exiff, it doesn't use that much more space than not having it
[20:56] <IanWizard> exiff, you're probably seeing two copies of everything, the one in your home dir, and the one in the /home/.ecrypt dir
[20:56] <propellerdnk1> cfhowlett:   I wrote a topic - I need to translate it into English
[20:56] <exiff> IanWizard,my hard drive is full. But i have almost no files in there
[20:56] <cfhowlett> propellerdnk1:  http://forum.ubuntu.ru/
[20:56] <IanWizard> exiff, then you've got a problem
[20:57] <IanWizard> how big is your drive
[20:57] <exiff> IanWizard,you don't say... :/
[20:57] <IanWizard> exiff, you didn't ecrypt the whole drive did you?
[20:57] <exiff> No, just the home folder i think
[20:58] <IanWizard> exiff, do       df         on the command line, and see what it says
[20:58] <IanWizard> exiff, or pastebin it
[20:58] <exiff> Roger
[20:58] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> might I suggest: df -h
[20:59] <mateusz> yo
[20:59] <SvenL-> Oh let's try again, now that it's calm, anybody familiar with EFI/BIOS things ?
[20:59] <IanWizard> TC_UbuntuNewbee, oh that's nice, I've never used that :P
[21:00] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> it was fpr exiff, I was fairly certain, that you know it :)
[21:00] <exiff> TC_UbuntuNewbee, Fpr?
[21:00] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> for
[21:01] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> -h makes the df output "human readable" - so you don't have to count all the zeros :D
[21:03] <exiff> IanWizard, http://pastebin.com/zs4AiqBf
[21:04] <IanWizard> exiff, that's awfully small
[21:04] <IanWizard> exiff, 35G
[21:04] <Hans__> Hello, can anyone help me with a problem?
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !justas|Hans_
[21:05] <cfhowlett> !justask|Hans_
[21:05] <exiff> IanWizard,size doesnt matter... i only have 3GB files in there.. where is the other 32GB
[21:05] <clawlinux> Free Unix Shells ;`)
[21:06] <manjisu> mm
[21:06] <celestius> yeah Hans_ IRC etiquette takes some getting used from the perspective of what's polite IRL but it's well-suited to its medium. just go for it. :)
[21:06] <Hans__> So this is my problem, im trying to install ubuntu side by side with windows 7, i have downloaded it installed it (cd) and everyone worked good, but when i boot i doesn't have a option to boot in ubuntu,
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, update grub
[21:07] <Hans__> how do i update grub?
[21:07] <manjisu> probably gremlins
[21:07] <TC_UbuntuNewbee> Any idea why locate doesn't work in this case? http://pastebin.com/cYN1R5pf
[21:07] <sweb> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9164442/font-face-in-firefox-8-on-linux-and-firefox-3-6-on-winxp
[21:07] <sweb> i just want to know this problem is for os or browser. i dont want to solve it. depend on version of firefox or between linux or windows
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, google it
[21:07] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[21:07] <ariana> Hans__, many how tos
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> !google| ariana
[21:08] <manjisu> i hate it when people say google it
[21:08]  * celestius likes that ubottu has a google blurb
[21:09] <leeping__> Hi there, something's wrong with my desktop.  I want to restart my desktop manager, but I really don't want to restart the computer.  I already tried restarting lightdm but that didn't restore the desktop to its 'fresh' state.  Any other suggestions?
[21:09] <ariana> Hans__, you should boot into Ubuntu and then from Live CD update grub to have all options to boot up
[21:09] <thetinyjesus> Anyone know if there is an ios 5 fix yet for syncing
[21:09] <celestius> leeping__ log out and log back in?
[21:10] <celestius> i have two versions of the libmysqlclient library installed - how do i specify which one is the default?
[21:10] <leeping__> celestius, I'm worried I'll lose my background processes (the ones that i started from the command line)
[21:10] <leeping__> but let me try it
[21:10] <celestius> uh, hold on
[21:10] <celestius> that's a good reason not to just log out
[21:10] <celestius> leeping__
[21:10] <Hans__> Exactly how do i update grub? I can't find any good documentation on that
[21:10] <leeping__> celestius, i haven't logged out yet
[21:10] <celestius> ok
[21:10] <celestius> what's wrong, more specifically, leeping__ ?
[21:11] <leeping__> The bar on the left is there but there are no window icons
[21:11] <leeping__> and if I try to launch evolution from the command line, it doesn't behave properly (I can't read my email)
[21:11] <ariana> Hans__, it should be command in terminal: sudo update-grub
[21:12] <leeping__> but I have a server running on this machine that is communicating with a bunch of  clusters for some computations that i'm running, i don't want to shut that down
[21:12] <Oer> no sudo needed for update-grub
[21:12] <leeping__> It's running in a screen window, and i am not sure if logging out will kill it
[21:12] <leeping__> screen as in GNU screen
[21:12] <celestius> if it's in screen, you should be fine
[21:12] <holstein> i find sudo *is* need for update grub
[21:13] <cfhowlett> holstein: agreed
[21:13] <leeping__> celestius, let me try. i'll be back
[21:13] <celestius> opk
[21:13] <reapingwildoats> on a fresh install of ubuntu 11.10 on two different pcs, one required additional drivers to get my wireless adapter working, the other did not.  I was using the same usb wireless adapter.  Why would this be the case???
[21:14] <holstein> reapingwildoats: the *exact* same, or just the same brand?
[21:14] <reapingwildoats> yeah 1 adapter, 2 pcs, 1 ubuntu live cd
[21:14] <IanWizard> exiff, do a       du -ch /home/nova
[21:14] <celestius> howd that work, leeping__ ?
[21:14] <IanWizard> exiff, and paste it.
[21:14] <leeping__> celestius, I'm back, my screen window hasn't crashed but my windows still aren't behaving properly
[21:15] <holstein> reapingwildoats: the *exact* same iso?
[21:15] <reapingwildoats> actually one I installed from the live cd, the other I installed from usb. but both 11.10
[21:15] <celestius> how so?
[21:15] <exiff> IanWizard,roger
[21:15] <IanWizard> exiff, sorry for the delay, getting lunch
[21:15] <reapingwildoats> are there changes made while keeping the version 11.10?
[21:15] <holstein> reapingwildoats: you can have said "download updates while installing" and a kernel upgrade supported the device.. i would lose sleep over it.. *something* was different
[21:15] <sda1986> hi all! I'm compiling the kernel, i have an I5-2430, what kind of processor family should i take?
[21:16] <reapingwildoats> I'm not losing sleep, just curious and its my day off
[21:16] <exiff> It's alright
[21:16] <leeping__> celestius, check out this screenshot:
[21:16] <celestius> perfect, i was just about to ask :)(
[21:16] <leeping__> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5381783/LeftSide.png
[21:16] <exiff> Lots of output
[21:16] <reapingwildoats> so do they add updates to the iso while keeping the version # the same?
[21:16] <leeping__> you see how it looks like a bunch of icons are clustered in the upper left
[21:17] <IanWizard> exiff, yep, you can just paste the last few lines if you want
[21:17] <leeping__> but if I click on that, nothing happens.
[21:17] <celestius> oy. do you have the compiz extended settings thing installed leeping__ ?
[21:17] <IanWizard> exiff, or just the last (grand total) line in here
[21:17] <exiff> Roger
[21:17] <leeping__> celestius, I might have it, what is the name of the package (or the program that i run to open the window)?
[21:18] <michele__> ciao
[21:18] <michele__> list!
[21:18] <celestius> leeping__: the package is called compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:18] <mimico>  I don't know if this is possible, but I want to be able to ssh from one laptop into another laptop, when both laptops are at my uni.  Is this possible, or how would I go aout finding information on how to do this?
[21:18] <cfhowlett> !it|michele_
[21:18] <leeping__> celestius, i just installed it
[21:18] <holstein> reapingwildoats: that can happen.. you can also download them upgrades while installing... 10.04.3 for example is updated packages from 10.04.1
[21:18] <celestius> like, right now, or earlier?
[21:18] <leeping__> just now
[21:18] <leeping__> and i just ran ccsm
[21:19] <reapingwildoats> yeah but I would need a working wireless adapter to install the updates while installing
[21:19] <reapingwildoats> download an update to fix wireless... lol
[21:19] <celestius> because you don't want it, heh. i asked because it's unstable and it's easy to get your desktop into a weird state but a lot of people use it
[21:19] <exiff> IanWizard, http://pastebin.com/iRinTer4
[21:20] <reapingwildoats> everytime I use compiz my synaptic goes crazy.  starts saying packages fail to install even though they didnt
[21:20] <reapingwildoats> I have sworn it off :)
[21:20] <leeping__> celestius, i see, i thought it was a tool I could've used to fix something :)
[21:20] <celestius> ah yeah, sorry
[21:20] <celestius> leeping__: can you give me the output of ls -a ~ ?
[21:21] <celestius> i think it might just be easiest to go in and delete the config files for the unity panel
[21:21] <celestius> it'll restore them to defaults
[21:21] <IanWizard> exiff, I would say that something is seriously messed up.
[21:21] <celestius> but i cant remember their exact location off the top of my head
[21:21] <leeping__> celestius, http://paste.ubuntu.com/831916/
[21:21] <leeping__> which file is it?
[21:22] <exiff> IanWizard, im guessing i'll have to migrate home
[21:22] <IanWizard> exiff, maybe just try rebooting, if that doesn't work... maybe you have to drop ecrypt
[21:22] <IanWizard> and then re-install it.
[21:22] <leeping__> I guess you can't tell which ones are files, and which ones are folders :P
[21:22] <celestius> ah it's fine
[21:22] <jskelington> I am having a problem with my ubuntu installations. They are all automatically taking screenshots
[21:22] <celestius> and leeping__ they'll be in either .compiz-1 or .gnome2, probably the latter. can i ask you to poke around?
[21:23] <celestius> someone else in the channel might remember more specifically, too
[21:23] <leeping__> celestius, sure
[21:23] <exiff> IanWizard,how do i 'drop it then reinstall it'?
[21:23] <leeping__> In compiz-1 there look to be files called '../.compiz-1/session/1038dd983998ca5dbb13279524137412600000068600043
[21:23] <leeping__> and the like
[21:24] <celestius> go ahead and put those in the trash
[21:24] <celestius> don't rm them, just in case
[21:24] <leeping__> How do I trash something from the command line? :)
[21:24] <thetinyjesus> sudo apt-key add -
[21:24] <celestius> good q. is there a 'trash' command? there might be, now that you mention it.
[21:25] <celestius> you can also do 'nautilus .'
[21:25] <IanWizard> exiff, migrate the data, then I would completely remove the home dir, and .Private
[21:25] <IanWizard> and then setup the ecrypt from scratch
[21:25] <leeping__> celestius, I just moved the files in compiz-1 to another place
[21:25] <reapingwildoats> whats the difference between rm and trash?
[21:25] <IanWizard> it's not hard, but I've NEVER done it, so I can't really help there.
[21:25] <leeping__> reapingwildoats, the former removes the files forever
[21:25] <leeping__> Maybe I'll log out and back in, and see what that did
[21:25] <celestius> ok
[21:25] <reapingwildoats> oh i see thanks
[21:25] <celestius> you might also want to check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/72366/how-can-i-restore-the-unity-launcher
[21:26] <celestius> i googled around for "restoring your unity panel"
[21:26] <celestius> no quotes
[21:26] <exiff> IanWizard, Double restart didn't change anything
[21:27] <exiff> The encrypt was made from installation
[21:27] <IanWizard> exiff, I would take everything in /home/nova  (and any other encrypted /home dirs), and put it on a flash drive
[21:27] <celestius> reapingwildoats: stuff deleted with 'rm' can still be restored if you catch it quickly. it tells the filesystem to mark those parts of the storage space as available, so the data will still be there until its space is actually needed and overwritten (unless you're running a super secure system that blanks the storage immediately, but those are rare)
[21:27] <IanWizard> then wipe out the /home/.ecrypt
[21:27] <celestius> it's a lot easier to just use the trash, though
[21:27] <celestius> i've never restored stuff rm'd, i just understand that it's possible
[21:27] <IanWizard> make sure that you don't accidentally get /home/nova/.Private though, or you'll be copying that whole 32gb
[21:28] <leeping__> celestius, you're not gonna believe this, i hit suspend instead of log out by accident, and then i couldn't resume, so i rebooted :P
[21:28] <celestius> ha
[21:28] <celestius> did it fix it? :D
[21:28] <leeping__> no big deal
[21:28] <leeping__> It did fix it. :D
[21:28] <celestius> nice :D
[21:28] <exiff> IanWizard,roger.
[21:28] <leeping__> thanks!
[21:28] <leeping__> :D
[21:28] <celestius> np!
[21:29] <leeping__> now i have to restart my computations :P
[21:29] <celestius> check if you can read your email tho
[21:29] <emr> hello, i have problem on my python (libmemcached) getting RuntimeError: pylibmc requires >= libmemcached 0.32, was compiled with 0.31
[21:29] <celestius> :(
[21:29] <leeping__> Good idea
[21:29] <leeping__> no biggie
[21:29] <celestius> ok
[21:29] <leeping__> i had a few thousand, and the ones that finished have sent their data back
[21:29] <celestius> what are you computing, if you don't mind my asking?
[21:29] <leeping__> celestius, email still doesn't work.
[21:29] <celestius> ok
[21:29] <leeping__> it's quantum chemistry stuff
[21:29] <leeping__> like the potential energy of molecules :)
[21:29] <celestius> that's probably something specific to evolution
[21:29] <exiff> It's a bit worrying for such a problem to come up... i cant be the first one with it, can i?  And lucid has been around for years now
[21:29] <leeping__> Yeah
[21:30] <celestius> nice. you're not raj bhatnagar, are you? :D
[21:30] <leeping__> I have a meeting to run to soon, so i'll have to leave this for later
[21:30] <celestius> ok
[21:30] <leeping__> haha, nope , but good guess :D
[21:30] <celestius> you might give thunderbird a whirl
[21:30] <celestius> it's nice, i like it better than evolution personally
[21:30] <IanWizard> ahh thunderbird
[21:30] <tiago> my system is stuck on a grub menu and keeps going there no matter what version of ubuntu I select, i think it might be a crc error (it says so when I boot with xen), what can I do?
[21:31] <exiff> Thanks IanWizard. :)
[21:32] <IanWizard> exiff, good luck :)
[21:32] <leeping__> celestius, yeah, Thunderbird is nice. :) I don't remember why i didn't switch over complete
[21:32] <leeping__> err completely
[21:32] <leeping__> have to run to my meeting now :) see ya
[21:32] <celestius> its enterprise support is worse i think
[21:32] <celestius> ok
[21:32] <celestius> cya!
[21:32] <exiff> So it begins... the great data exodus... ive named the copy folder "exile".. a bit dramatic but...
[21:33] <exiff> Thanks again.
[21:33] <celestius> IanWizard is tbird not your fav? i'm always interested in hearing about alternatives
[21:35] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:35] <IanWizard> celestius, for desktop, yes
[21:35] <IanWizard> evolution is good, but syncing had issues last time I used it
[21:35] <IanWizard> I just use Gmail
[21:35] <IanWizard> in chrome
[21:35] <IanWizard> :)
[21:35] <celestius> ah yeah :)
[21:35] <jskelington> is there a way to disable a single key on my keyboard?
[21:36] <Tiktalik> Hey so..I need help doing the stuff on this thing
[21:36] <Tiktalik> http://pastebin.com/LQTScvhx
[21:36] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:36] <Tiktalik> I'm trying to compile some wireless drivers for my dad's laptop
[21:37] <jskelington> I found something
[21:37] <jskelington> one sec
[21:37] <Tiktalik> also, wireless drivers are hell. ye innocent, RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Tiktalike - what wifi card are you having problems with?
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Hey everyone - anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:38] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?
[21:39] <Russian> hey guys anyone has OCZ vertex 3 MI or Patriot wildfire 120gb?
[21:39] <beefman> drupal
[21:39] <SmashingX|2> hello guys when I try to run xampp on my ubuntu it says this: Another web server daemon is already running. So, how can I know where is it running?
[21:40] <Russian> I am trying to figure out what would be a better choice, OCZ Vertex 3 MI  120GB or Patriot Wildfire 120GB, anyone any suggestions?
[21:40] <Tiktalik> AMS-ITGuy, it's an ASUS USB-N13 wifi dongle
[21:40] <celestius> SmashingX|2: netstat is where you'd start, but i'm not an expert at it. you could also try connecting to http://localhost:80/ and seeing what comes up
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> My business partner bought an OCZ 120GB just recently, and he's pleased with it
[21:41] <celestius> you probably have to specify a port to xampp
[21:41] <celestius> check the invocation options, it's usually -p
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Tiktalik - any idea on the chipset?  sometimes you can get a binary to load for wifi capabilities
[21:41] <SmashingX|2> This is the default web page for this server.
[21:41] <SmashingX|2> This shit he web server software is running but no content has been added, yet.
[21:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunneling.
[21:42] <SmashingX|2> celestius: This is what it says when I run it
[21:42] <celestius> heyo - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1436388
[21:42] <celestius> is that helpful?
[21:42] <Tiktalik> AMS-ITGuy: err, I dunno what you mean.
[21:43] <alexxio> hello
[21:43] <celestius> SmashingX|2:
[21:43] <Tiktalik> also, I AM NOT PAID ENOUGH FOR THIS
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please dont use xampp on GNU/Linux
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: use the real apache2 php5 mysql-server instead
[21:43] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: Yeah but whatever that's not the problem
[21:43] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sure it is
[21:43] <SmashingX|2> I had different problems
[21:44] <SmashingX|2> I want to delete or stop the daemon that is running now
[21:44] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the main problen is you want to use xampp, that is always wrong
[21:44] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo service apache2 stop
[21:44] <auronandace> !xampp
[21:45] <SmashingX|2> ok whatever, I wanted to install xampp but how do I know which server is installed?
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please dont use xampp, remove it from your system and use the native apache2 php5 mysql-server combination
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: we dont support you here with xampp installations
[21:45] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: stop using it please
[21:45] <SmashingX|2> yeah but something is already installed, how do I know what is installeD?
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ask the administrator is the best way
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> ok ok I know I won't use xampp could you help me then?
[21:46] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> administrator of what?
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: and i guess its apache2 waht is running at the moment
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the system
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> it's my computer
[21:46] <SmashingX|2> there is not other person that uses it
[21:46] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: then you should know what webserver you have installed
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ubuntu does not have a webserver by default so you installed one by hand
[21:47] <SmashingX|2> I don't know because I haven't use this computer for long time
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: you checked if it is apache2?
[21:47] <SmashingX|2> probably I did, but the question is, how do I know what do I have installed?
[21:47] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ps aux | grep apache
[21:48] <iceroot> there was also some netstat command which shows what program is using what port but i cant remember the command
[21:48] <Alexxio> aaa
[21:49] <SmashingX|2> root     27987  0.0  0.0   4444   792 pts/0    S+   14:49   0:00 grep --colour=auto apache
[21:50] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: then its not apache what is running
[21:50] <ganiman_> hello
[21:50] <ericus> hello ganiman_
[21:50] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works fine on Windows!
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> I did this: sudo service apache2 stop
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> * Stopping web server apache2                                                    * The apache2 configtest failed, so we are trying to kill it manually. This is almost certainly suboptimal, so please make sure your system is working as you'd expect now!  ... waiting .
[21:50] <SmashingX|2> and now localhost doesn't work
[21:51] <SmashingX|2> so I guess is apache2
[21:51] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l apache2
[21:51] <ganiman> I just installed ubuntu 11.10, and during the install I clicked the universal access icon and my mouse cursor got really big.  This carried over into the compelted install, but it seems to only happen when the mouse is over firefox.
[21:51] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: does the line start with "ii"?
[21:51] <ganiman> Does anyonek now how I can disable this oversized mouse cursor?
[21:51] <SmashingX|2> what line?
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l apache2
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> ii  apache2        2.2.20-1ubuntu Apache HTTP Server metapackage
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ok, its apache2
[21:52] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ii means installed
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> oh ok
[21:52] <rata> I'm trying to use Ubuntu on Amazon EC2. I followed the link on: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/server/oneiric/current/ and created a "us-east-1 32-bit ebs ami-7123f218" and as the ec2 command says, I selected "t1.micro" on the wizard, and it is started okay. But I cannot connect, using the command the web management gives me (using the key pair and that stuff). The checks are also performed okay. Is there something I need to do to be able to connect
[21:52] <rata>  via ssh ?
[21:52] <SmashingX|2> so I wonder what did I install because mysql is also installed
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> if I didn't install xampp
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: lamp
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> isn't the same?
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> xampp new version of lamp?
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is evil like hell, lamp is good
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> oh I thought I read that
[21:53] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is something for windows-"administrators"
[21:53] <SmashingX|2> oh ok
[21:54] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[21:54] <SmashingX|2> how can I be sure that I installed lamp?
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: xampp is a distribution of apache2 php mysql a mailserver phpmyadmin and so on
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l php5
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dpkg -l mysql-server
[21:54] <Oer> iceroot, sudo netstat -nlp; rpcinfo -p host
[21:54] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: if all is starting with "ii" you have lamp
[21:54] <iceroot> Oer: thanks
[21:54] <SmashingX|2> ok
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> I just uninstalled mysql server :(
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> bad bad bad
[21:55] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:55] <SmashingX|2> is that going to get the lastest version?
[21:55] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: the latest from the repos
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> ok, so to get the lastest available?
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> Do i have to get it from the webpage
[21:56] <OrangeTux> yes
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> dang
[21:56] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: dont do that
[21:56] <OrangeTux> why not?
[21:56] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: please only use software from the repos
[21:56] <SmashingX|2> what if my repos are outdated?
[21:57] <OrangeTux> sudo apt-get update
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: everything else is a big security issue because you dont get secureity updates automatcly
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: and normally you dont need the latest version
[21:57] <SmashingX|2> and then after the update I reinstall mysql to get the latest from the repos?
[21:57] <OrangeTux> iceroot: its that such a big issue as you say that it is?
[21:57] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[21:57] <iceroot> OrangeTux: of course
[21:58] <iceroot> OrangeTux: especially for components of a webserver like apache php mysql
[21:58] <OrangeTux> oke, i understand
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: what ubuntu-version are you using? "cat /etc/issue" to find out
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> don't get mad at me but I heard that ubuntu is very unstable anyway
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> hehe
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: it is compared to debian
[21:58] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: as a server-os
[21:58] <SmashingX|2> right compared to debian
[21:59] <ericus> what's the command to open the startup applications?
[21:59] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: but that is not because ubuntu-devs are bad or they do a bad job its because ubuntu comes with newer software then debian which is not tested that long
[21:59] <ericus> it has disappeared from my menu
[22:00] <SmashingX|2> well I guess it still helps that ubuntu has so many more users that debian
[22:00] <SmashingX|2> and many users mean more testers
[22:01] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: users are only "helpfull" when they are reporting issues :)
[22:01] <SmashingX|2> that's also true
[22:01] <iceroot> !bug | SmashingX|2 :)
[22:01] <SmashingX|2> but more testers mean more possibilities to have more users reporting bugs
[22:01] <AMS-ITGuy> seriously, no one uses PPTP here? lol
[22:01] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: correct
[22:02] <ChromeVanadium> bong sang...
[22:02] <iceroot> !vpn | AMS-ITGuy
[22:02] <ChromeVanadium> je pensais que c'était un tchat francophone...
[22:02] <SmashingX|2> so iceroot, with lamp I don't have phpmyadmin?
[22:02] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[22:03] <tiago> how can i solve a crc error?
[22:03] <ChromeVanadium> mais il n'en est rien...
[22:03] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: "lamp" is not a single package like xampp is
[22:03] <SmashingX|2> ohhh that's what I just realized
[22:03] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: lamp just means "linux apache mysql php"
[22:03] <iceroot> !fr | ChromeVanadium
[22:03] <iceroot> tiago: redownloading the file normally
[22:03] <SmashingX|2> I see
[22:04] <tiago> iceroot: it's a crc error when i try to boot, i keep being sent to grub menu and can't load any of the ubuntu versions
[22:04] <SmashingX|2> hey iceroot, thanks for the help just 1 more question
[22:04] <SmashingX|2> when I installed mysql it didn't asked me for a root password
[22:05] <SmashingX|2> is there any way to configure that?
[22:05] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: have a look if there is a file /etc/mysql/my.secret or something like that
[22:05] <iceroot> tiago: uh that sound bad, sorry i dont know how to fix that
[22:05] <SmashingX|2> my.conf?
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no
[22:06] <SmashingX|2> my.cnf?
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: you already installed mysql and setup a password
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: so you are not asked for a new password at installation because the old password is still active
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: no not my.cnf sometimes there is a password file in there where you can see the password
[22:06] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: it seems like there's no password because I type mysql on the terminal and I can get into mysql
[22:06] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: ah ok
[22:07] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: its a good idea to set a password now
[22:07] <SmashingX|2> the question is how
[22:07] <SmashingX|2> lol
[22:07] <Follow83> ciao
[22:07] <Follow83> !list
[22:07] <benbloom_> I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail. when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i
[22:07] <benbloom_> search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly. Please help! this is seriously impacting my ability to work!
[22:07] <FloodBot1> benbloom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:09] <benbloom_> really? that was a flood? just trying to !ask and include the necessary details
[22:09] <bus3rr0r> thats what pastebin is for
[22:10] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:11] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: mysql -u root
[22:11] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: SET PASSWORD FOR ''@'localhost' = PASSWORD('newpwd');
[22:11] <benbloom_> hmm. I know pastebin is for large threads of info. i'm just surprised my question constituted a large thread
[22:11] <pivetta> hi guys, i've got a problem with screen dimming, I'm trying to run a game, but while playing (due the large use of the resources i guess) the screen dims, i can't find out where to deactivate this diming not from the compiz panel and not from the the screen settings (there is only for power saving). what to do on ubuntu 11.10 (unity)?
[22:12] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: Thanks I got a faster way to do that mysqladmin -u root password NEWPASSWORD
[22:12] <tiago> whenever i choose i any ubuntu version in grub menu it loads a black screen and sends me back again, what could be wrong?
[22:13] <pivetta> (oh, idea i give a try on unity2d, wont bother again sorry)
[22:13] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: congratulation :) now your root-password from the database is stored in the history :)
[22:13] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - what drive/partition did you load grub on?  If you boot off of a liveCD are the disks readable?
[22:14] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: history | grep mysqladmin :)
[22:15] <SmashingX|2> cool iceroot: but now my apache server doesn't want to start
[22:15] <SmashingX|2> should I do sudo service apache2 start
[22:15] <tiago> AMS-ITGuy: i don't have any liveCDs with me. when I got home the system was frozen so I restarted and now it keeps showing me the grub menu, before it would just load without asking anything. I think the grub is on its own partition but I'm not sure.
[22:16] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: yes
[22:16] <SmashingX|2> I think it got screwed
[22:17] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - what version of ubuntu are you running?  If your system was frozen, it could indicate a hardware malfunction of some type
[22:17] <SmashingX|2> maybe I should reinstall it
[22:18] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: reinstall does not work on GNU/Linux like it os (maybe sometimes) working on windows
[22:18] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: see /var/log/apache2/error.log
[22:18] <tiago> AMS-ITGuy: 11.10. I have the option to load xen as well, and if i do it says i have a crc error
[22:18] <tiago> how should i proceed?
[22:18] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: apache2: Syntax error on line 227 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf: No such file or directory Action 'start' failed.
[22:20] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - sounds like something is screwy with the hard drive - do you have an ubuntu disc at all?  You can try recovery mode
[22:20] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:20] <tiago> hum i'll try to get one AMS-ITGuy, should i be worried about loosing data? is back-up a must?
[22:21] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: if you are not hosting that bugzilla anymore just remove that line from the config (or put a # before the line)
[22:21] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - backups are always a must :)
[22:21] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: that line says: Include conf.d/
[22:21] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: isn't that important?
[22:22] <AMS-ITGuy> tiago - if you have some type of live cd it will let you know if the data is readable - and give you the ability to take a copy to verify the integrity
[22:22] <jeremiah_> What is the best, most user friendly, most compatible, easiest to use linux?
[22:22] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: is therw a file called /etc/apache2/conf.d/bugzilla3.conf?
[22:22] <iceroot> jeremiah_: the one you like most
[22:22] <SmashingX|2> let me check
[22:22] <iceroot> !best | jeremiah_
[22:23] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: no, there's not such a file
 well I mean the easiest to use and install things on.
[22:24] <iceroot> jeremiah_: the one you like most
[22:24] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: but your apache config is refering to that file
[22:24] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: so please have a look at your config
[22:24] <SmashingX|2> I guess is that because I uninstalled bugzilla
[22:24] <SmashingX|2> so that file got deleted
 lets say "the best for a resent windows user and does not know much of linux-type?"
[22:25] <[deXter]> jeremiah_, seriously, join #ubuntu-bots, and ask in there. :)
 ok whatever.
[22:26] <iceroot> jeremiah_: maye ubuntu, maybe opensuse, maybe fedora. i dont know everyone is prefering something different
[22:27] <benbloom_> I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail. when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i
[22:27] <benbloom_> search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly. Please help!
[22:27] <FloodBot1> benbloom_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <SmashingX|2> it this line important in the apache conf fiel?: Include conf.d/
[22:27] <benbloom_> oops. but i really do need help with this. it'
[22:28] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: yes
[22:28] <benbloom_> s making work impossible
[22:29] <SmashingX|2> iceroot: do you know what can I do to tell apache to stop looking for that file?
[22:29] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: grep through that file if there is the bugzilla file names
[22:29] <SmashingX|2> ok
[22:31] <SmashingX|2> jeremiah_: btw I think distrowatch.com could show you the advantages and disadvantages of every distro and also it provides screenshots of many distros so you may wanna check that out
[22:31] <benbloom_> can someone at least tell me how to revert to a previous build of thunderbird using apt? I read about pinning, but I'm not seeing how to go back
[22:31] <iceroot> benbloom_: not possible
[22:31] <iceroot> benbloom_: pinning is for something different then downgrading
[22:32] <iceroot> benbloom_: pinning is for "not upgrading"
[22:32] <benbloom_> oh. iceroot. so what do i do?  apt remove thunderbird9 and try to find a deb of an earlier build?
[22:32] <iceroot> benbloom_: correct
[22:33] <SmashingX|2> dang, I look for bugzilla word in the conf file but nothing
[22:34] <benbloom_> k. should I try finding and reinstalling all the libraries that tbird uses before I do thiat? I've tried a purge and reinstall but it doesnt help. neither does using tbird in safe mode
[22:34] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom_ are you sure it isn't just minimized?  not being sarcasitic here, but I had a TB window onetime that looked like it was missing, but when I dragged the window column it reappeared
[22:34] <benbloom_> I have the column it's just empty
[22:35] <benbloom_> AMS-ITGuy, http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/
[22:35] <AMS-ITGuy> i had the column too, it looked empty, until I dragged from the left portion of the window and it quite literally reappeared
[22:35] <AMS-ITGuy> I saw the link, it's very similar to what I had
[22:35] <benbloom_> so that's what i'd been thinking, but i've tried dragging every part of it. to no avail.
[22:36] <AMS-ITGuy> only thing I could suggest is exporting your mail and making a new profile and importing again... a pain, yes.... I stopped using TB because of weird stuff like this
[22:36] <benbloom_> also, wouldn't "reset toolbars and controls" option from safe mode fix this problem?
[22:37] <craigbass1976> how safe am I getting 12.04 for a new server?  It won't be a production box for months, but I didnt' want to get 11.10 and have to upgrade.
[22:37] <benbloom_> new profile has the same issue i think. unless theres some
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Hello.
[22:37] <benbloom_> feature i'm missing
[22:37] <AMS-ITGuy> 12.04 isn't too bad, but I wouldn't put it on a server yet
[22:37] <Oer> craigbass1976, it is not safe yet.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Under 11.10 I am now crashing (complete lock up) when I insert a USB device for the second time.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> The first time everything is okay.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> The second time, system freeze.
[22:37] <SnakesAndStuff> Where should I file a bug report, and how do I roll back to an older version?
[22:38] <craigbass1976> AMS-ITGuy, what'd I miss about TB?  I use TB and am interested in whatever someone is having trouble with.  I just got here.
[22:38] <mrmowgli> anyone have a guide for installing an older version of GCC?  I installed 4.5 but it didn't install or create links for g++-4.5 :(
[22:38] <craigbass1976> Oer, not safe as in worse than using Windows, or just not as safe as using ubuntu normally?
[22:38] <Oer> craigbass1976, usually server-admins wait for 12.04.1
[22:39] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass1976 - benbloom has a window that is not listing folders.
[22:39] <iceroot> craigbass1976: using 12.04 as a server is one of the badest ideas i have read here today :)
[22:39] <SmashingX|2> #apache: Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned
[22:39] <iceroot> SmashingX|2: #freenode
[22:39] <craigbass1976> iceroot, it wouldn't be a real server until next winter
[22:39] <SmashingX|2> I've never been in that channel
[22:39] <kingnebex> wts up good people of the ubuntu world?.............
[22:40] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass1976, the server build of 12.04 is just that, for development, if the server isn't going into commission try it out... if it was me, I'd use 10.04 until the first point upgrade on 12.04
[22:40] <iceroot> craigbass1976: only use 12.04 if you want to help testing
[22:40] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:40] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:40] <benbloom_> craigbass1976, I'm having problems reading my email with thunderbird 9 on Kubuntu 64b 11.10. I think the new update caused problems and I can't figure out how to fix them. I've tried a apt-get purge and install after backing up and deleting ~/.thunderbird but the problem persists. http://www.flickr.com/photos/53743399@N02/6831454429/ if you look at the left side there's no column with mail.
[22:40] <benbloom_> craigbass1976,  when i click "read mail" nothing appears. however, if i search for specific messages, they show up, so i know my profile is loaded correctly.
[22:41] <totesmuhgoats> wsirc_8374852: do you mean you want images that include updates to the packages?
[22:41] <totesmuhgoats> oh, i guess he's gone
[22:41] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling.
[22:41] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:41] <wsirc_8374852> Hi, I am migrating from fedora to ubuntu. JBWillia usually has updated Fedora livecd images on his site for fedora here: http://jbwillia.fedorapeople.org/ Is there a similar repository for updated ubuntu livecds?
[22:41] <iceroot> !repeat | wsirc_8374852
[22:41] <Oer> wsirc_8374852, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20120206/
[22:42] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, I dont'  know what anyone else has told you...  Has it got anything to do with pop vs imap?
[22:42] <leeping__> Hi there, there's something wrong with Evolution - when I click on my emails, it doesn't display the message in the preview pane.  I want to delete Evolution's temporary files, but I don't know where they are..
[22:42] <iceroot> Oer: wsirc_8374852 that live-cd is for a alpha-release
[22:42] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: to view "hidden" files in linux, type ls -la in the terminal
[22:42] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: the hidden files are prefixed with a .
[22:43] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, pop started getting funky I thought around tbird 3-ish.  This iwas around when I started using IMAP anyway, so I didn't care
[22:43] <totesmuhgoats> try looking for something like .evolution, you might also look inside folders like ~/.config ~/.gnome ~/.gconf
[22:43] <benbloom_> craigbass1976, no i have 7 emails some pop some imap. they all used to appear in the left column along with trash and archives and other stuff. now that column is empty
[22:44] <benbloom_> the only wat to view emails is to search for them specifically
[22:44] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, are you running any addons?
[22:45] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works in Windows just fine.
[22:45] <benbloom_> nope. not that i recall. and i used the thunderbird 'safe mode' to deactivate all addons and reset window and view settings
[22:46] <craigbass1976> have you tried #thunderbird on irc.mozilla.org (or net maybe) ?
[22:47] <leeping__> totesmuhgoats, i know, but there are lots of those temporary files and folders in ~. :)
[22:47] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom it's cuz those KDE guys want you to use KMail ;)
[22:47] <imafricanbro> hi guys
[22:47] <AMS-ITGuy> Anyone here have experience with PPTP VPNs on the client side using Ubuntu 11.10?  Need some help with split tunnelling - works in Windows just fine.
[22:47] <kingnebex> hey guys ....is ubuntu capable of being attacked by viruses?
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: there shouldn't be temporary folders, that stuff will go to /tmp
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> those are all config folders
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> leeping__: you can also try the find command
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> man find
[22:48] <AMS-ITGuy> kingnebex anything can be attacked by a virus, but Ubuntu is pretty safe
[22:48] <imafricanbro> Did microsoft develop windows? or just ms-dos? cause i've never heard of windows untill now, any one knows?
[22:48] <benbloom_> i have craigbass1976 no response whatsoever. and AMS-ITGuy I am beginning to wonder if that's true. seems pretty antithetical to the whole linux concept though
[22:48] <totesmuhgoats> kingnebex: yes
[22:49] <imafricanbro> Is windows good compared to Debian?
[22:49] <Oer> imafricanbro, ask in #windows, please.
[22:49] <kingnebex> so AMS are there antivirses for ubuntu?
[22:49] <[deXter]> kingnebex, Yes.
[22:49] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, if ou set up a new account, does that show up?
[22:49] <AMS-ITGuy> benbloom - sorry,  i know how frustrating it is - but like I said, I gave up on TB awhile ago just because of the weird stuff it does
[22:50] <AMS-ITGuy> craigbass - I asked him the same lol create a new profile and import, apparently same issue
[22:50] <[deXter]> TB?
[22:50] <kingnebex> are they free?
[22:50] <microbe> Hi there :) I would like to know if someone know a good procedure to chroot user for SFTP use ?
[22:50] <[deXter]> kingnebex, Some are
[22:50] <benbloom_> sasame problems craigbass1976new account or not. even after completely purging and reinstalling
[22:51] <AMS-ITGuy> TB = thunderbird
[22:51] <craigbass1976> AMS-ITGuy, benbloom_, no I mean withing the profiles he's got now.  Name it something else, but have it check one of thed accounts he's already doing.
[22:52] <daysahead5> how do i set a file to be in multiple groups chgrp group1 text.txt but how do i add multiple groups not just one?
[22:54] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 - you make another group with the users you want in it
[22:55] <daysahead5> oooh
[22:55] <daysahead5> i'm not sure i follow
[22:55] <benbloom_> i'm confused craigbass1976 what are you suggesting?
[22:56] <doomviking> welcome to the limits of POSIX permissions
[22:56] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 if you have group1 with jon, sally and bob in it, and group2 with jon, sally and sam in it, and you want jon sam and bob to have access to the file, you make a new group; group3
[22:57] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5 - you can belong to more than one group as a user
[22:57] <doomviking> but a file/directory cannot be associated with more than one group
[22:57] <doomviking> which is what daysahead5 is asking
[22:58] <AMS-ITGuy> doomviking - which I eluded to in my first message.... you can't have more than one group, you create another group with the respective users
[22:59] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, in your existing thunderbird instance, add a new account.  Set it up to check an email acount that you're already checking, but give it a different name (joebob2 or something)
[22:59] <levitsky> hi guys, i want to get owned
[23:00] <doomviking> daysahead5: what AMS-ITGuy said
[23:00] <doomviking> sorry for the confusion.
[23:01] <AMS-ITGuy> doomviking, no worries - of course, there are other ways to control security, daysahead5 how are you sharing the file?  Via SSH only, or SMB, NFS?
[23:02] <AMS-ITGuy> ok, so who wants to help me with my VPN issue? :D
[23:03] <OrangeTux> is there a program where I can stack multiple copy actions (ctrl+ v)
[23:03] <kaspi> Guys, any input from my mouse crashes my X, after the last kernel update... Anybody experiencing this?
[23:04] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, not happening here, what version?
[23:04] <kaspi> AMX-ITGuy: the version of kernel you mean?
[23:05] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, kernel and version of Ubuntu
[23:06] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: 3.0.0-15 generic (?) and 11.10
[23:07] <skwird> Yikes just looked at the logs for this channel and my ridiculous client actually sent my one question four times!
[23:07] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, anything special about your mouse?  tried a different usb port?
[23:07] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I also have the log opened saying SIGSEGV, but I'm afraid I can't paste it :/
[23:07] <skwird> I apologize for seeming rude!
[23:07] <skwird> I totally did not intend to sound impatient.
[23:07] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: tried both different ports and mice
[23:07] <skwird> I am on xchat now and thankfully able to communicate in a sane way
[23:08] <gabriel_> hello guys.i'm trying to install ubuntu to my old laptop.this laptop doesnt have cd drive and cant boot up from usb.so i use another computer to install the os in the drive i gonna use in my old laptop.
[23:09] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, what desktop env?
[23:09] <skwird> Oer, thanks for pointing me to the live-cd for the alpha release but I am looking for the live-cd with updates of the current stable version. totesmuhgoats, yes, I do mean images that include updates to all the packages and whatever updates are current for the kernel
[23:09] <gabriel_> in the start up i'm getting a lot of cannot create this and that because is a read-only file system
[23:09] <metasansana> is there a danger in bridging?
[23:10] <metasansana> besides sniffing and all?
[23:10] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: a weird, strange, mixed up env from Gnome, Unity, KDE, Xfce and LXDM :D
[23:11] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: using LXDM mainly, but it's sometimes showing all together :/
[23:11] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, ah, so a "standard" env? lol - if you try something more generic without 3d acceleration (gnome 2, unity 2d, etc) does the issue still occur?
[23:11] <metasansana> like eth0 br0
[23:11] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: yep, tried unity 2D, still happening
[23:11] <Oer> skwird http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/
[23:12] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, tried a liveCD to see if the issue is still there?
[23:12] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, maybe something else is going on?
[23:12] <skwird> Oer, thank you very much. Are those the stable ones?
[23:13] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: can't boot it :/ my computer is somehow weird that it can't a live linux... it just boots to the install/try/... menu and when selecting an option, it freezes and never comes out
[23:13] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I already wanted to replace the whole system with a clean install, but couldn't find a way yet
[23:13] <sKew^_-> hi,
[23:14] <Oer> skwird, sorry wrong link again ( cloud image), i cant find oneiric daily
[23:14] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, sorry, no idea.... I always fall back to a default LiveCD to test changes.
[23:14] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, and updates
[23:14] <sKew^_-> how does install ubuntu 11.10 aslong whit win7 work is it on the same partition or?
[23:15] <kaspi> sKew^_-: ubuntu usually creates it's own partition
[23:15] <lion42> sKew^_-, generally yes, you can create a new partition for linux to be on with the free space in your windows partition.
[23:15] <Oer> skwird, somehowe oneiric daily is gone
[23:16] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: no problem, thanks for your time
[23:16] <lion42> sKew^_-, usually this does not require any tinkering on your part, the installer just asks you how big you want ubuntu's space to be.
[23:16] <skwird> Oer,  so ubuntu used to have an updated image?
[23:16] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, any chance you have a ps/2 mouse and port on that box?
[23:16] <Oer> skwird,  yes, daily build
[23:16] <StepNjump> I get this error message when upgrading: The package 'brhl2170wlpr' is in an inconsistent state and needs to be reinstalled, but no archive can be found for it. Do you want to remove this package now to continue?
[23:16] <skwird> I know that in fedora those images are not really "official" but they are really convenient
[23:16] <StepNjump> .
[23:16] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: nope :/ only USB ones
[23:17] <sKew^_-> hmm kk, so it makes 2 difrent partition afther it? it dont install te files on NTFS right?
[23:17] <skwird> ah, thanks. I will search for that term
[23:17] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: is it possible to just reinstall X? :) using the apt?
[23:17] <benbloom_> ok craigbass1976 so that actually worked. now the problem is i have years worth of emails in the old ~/.thunderbolt folder that I need to import. actually, if i have to do that, I'm probably done with thunderbolt
[23:17] <skwird> all distro have a unique way of calling those images
[23:17] <sKew^_-> cuz i created one 100gb for windows and got 120gb free before i chose aslong win7 so i think i got 120gb free space now :/
[23:18] <SmashingX> how can I delete a symlink
[23:18] <skwird> Hmmm
[23:18] <StepNjump> I just installed my printer. Everything works fine except when I run the update manager
[23:18] <skwird> precise pangolin's daily build comes up in every search
[23:18] <skwird> but not the oneiric
[23:18] <skwird> you are right.
[23:19] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, bolt or bird?
[23:19] <skwird> I hate downloading 300megs of updates after the install. :(
[23:19] <benbloom_> lol bird. i also have  a thunderbolt
[23:19] <AMS-ITGuy> kaspi, i'm sure it's possible, but I can't say I have the foggiest idea on how to do it.  You'd have to remove all of the X.org packages and delete all your configuration files
[23:20] <skwird> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[23:20] <kjaer> SmashingX, rm thesymlink
[23:20] <kjaer> its just a file
[23:20] <sKew^_-> kaspi, lion42 , "aslongside" can i accsess data i got on ubuntu from win7?
[23:20] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, I'm guessing bird.  Thunderbolt is a phone...  What if, now that you've got an account set up (the imaps should go fine, just pops will give you trouble) can you just copy stuff over in bash while Thunderbird is not running?  After you've created the new account though
[23:20] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: yeah :/ god give me a clean install
[23:20] <SmashingX> thanks kjaer
[23:21] <skwird> Are there any differences b/w precise pangolin and the current oneiric?
[23:21] <kjaer> SmashingX, just dont use -R if it is a link to a directory
[23:21] <SmashingX> ok
[23:21] <skwird> or do you all think precise pangolin is just as fine?
[23:21] <kjaer> sKew^_-, depends on the filesystem
[23:21] <kaspi> sKew^_-: only with a specific driver afaik, because win can't read linux's filesystem by defult... ubuntu can read win's filesystem by default though
[23:21] <lion42> sKew^_-, yes and no. AFAIK, you need to use a special program to access your ubuntu partition from windows, because windows can't read the filesystem. But you should be able to access your windows files from ubuntu just fine.
[23:21] <skwird> I mean in Fedora F16 is far worse compared to F15. It is wwwwwaay unstable - hence the reason for switching
[23:22] <lion42> If you windows or ubuntu are encrypted, though, you wont be able to. (or at least not easily.)
[23:22] <SmashingX> iceroot: I installed phpmyadmin but now how can I start using it?
[23:22] <kaspi> sKew^_-: so you can transfer files between the systems using ubuntu, but to use win for that, you'd have to add specific software
[23:23] <benbloom_> right craigbass1976 I think it's time for me to find a new email program that's not going to break. this is  not the first time i've had to do this, which makes me think it wont be the last. I'm looking for a new email program. perhaps one that uses a more straightforward way of organizing pop mail (I keep all my correspondence for ever, but don't like wasting paper
[23:23] <sKew^_-> lion42, kaspi , kjaer  okok thx, i think i messed the install up so iam gonna install ubuntu one more time, seens i created the 120gb (non format) partition dident get used
[23:24] <kjaer> sKew^_-, I use the ext2fsd on windows 7, works like a charm
[23:24] <sKew^_-> kaspi, thanx, then i can download in ubuntu and copy files over to win7 :)
[23:24] <kaspi> benbloom_: how about gmail? you can redirect all mail there, I've been using it for years :)
[23:24] <kaspi> sKew^_-: correct
[23:24] <AMS-ITGuy> who wants to help me with my VPN issue? :D
[23:24] <kjaer> sKew^_-, you can resize partitions?
[23:24] <lion42> sKew^_-, you shouldn't need to manually create partitions with the regular installer. If you have a bunch of free space, the easiest way I can think of getting it back into your windows partition so you can run a simple install would be to open up a livecd/usb of ubuntu, run gparted, return the free space to your windows partition, and then run the regular installer.
[23:24] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy,  what is your vpn issue?
[23:25] <lion42> Can anyone think of a better way to do it?
[23:25] <lion42> Because that's the dumb way I'd think of doing it. :P
[23:25] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: what issue is that? My screen is pretty small in this non-gui stage :D
[23:25] <sKew^_-> yeah but i did make the ubuntu whit an odd name, test :P seens i wassent shure what the aslongside did ;P
[23:25] <aBound> Is there a Ubuntu ISO whereas I can customize what gets installed in it?
[23:25] <lion42> aBound, what kind of customization do you need to make?
[23:26] <kjaer> sKew^_-, you can also change the hostname
[23:26] <craigbass1976> benbloom_, weird.  Sorry about that.  Let me know what you end up with though<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I'm curious
[23:26] <kaspi> aBound: there's none what I know, but I think I've seeb software for creating installations, where you could customize it
[23:27] <aBound> lion42, Like for example I would like to create a customized LiveUSB for Ubuntu installing specific apps. By default it installs all sorts of apps I'd just like a few that I'd probably use.
[23:27] <kaspi> seen*
[23:27] <aBound> kaspi, Can the alternative Ubuntu ISO do something like that?
[23:27] <sKew^_-> lion42, kjaer , kaspi : i formated my SDD, and created a 100gb win7 partition ntfs ofc in win installer and and left the rest 140gb clean, then i installed ubuntu 11.10 "aslongside win7"
[23:27] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, I think the alternate CD gives you this, you can select individual packages at the end of the install
[23:27] <skwird> this is weird
[23:28] <kaspi> aBound: there should be just another set of apps, nothing speacial afaik
[23:28] <sKew^_-> kjaer, host name and username?
[23:28] <aBound> Hmm.
[23:28] <kaspi> special>*
[23:28] <skwird> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/ says its the daily build but its the cloud image as you said, Oer
[23:28] <skwird> gaaaah
[23:28] <StrangeCharm> I backed up my secring, exported my primary key (& its subkeys) to a file, then made changes to the subkeys. I deleted some of my encryption subkeys, but not to worry, because I have backups! However, I seem get GPG to re-import the sub-keys. When import the key file, it's all like "Oh, I already have that master key, so I don't need to worry about its subkeys." I want those subkeys back in my main key, how do I fix it?
[23:28] <StepNjump> How could I reinstall this please? rHR brhl2170wlpr                            2.0.2-1                                    Brother HL-2170W LPR driver
[23:28] <StepNjump> with dpkg?
[23:28] <kjaer> sKew^_-, the hostname is your computers name, it is also possible to change your username
[23:29] <skwird> StepNjump,
[23:29] <skwird> is that a tarball?
[23:29] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: I think aBound wants his own set of apps already included in the install though
[23:29] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, That's exactly what I want but to select packages after the installation starts.
[23:29] <skwird> What kind of driver file is it?
[23:29] <lion42> AMS-ITGuy, I've used the alternate installer, and that feature is not present.
[23:29] <sKew^_-> lion42, kjaer , kaspi : then  installed the ubuntu whit a name "test" cuz if it wass fail i just wipe the hole disk and start over again :)
[23:29] <kjaer> sKew^_-, usermod -l desiredName oldName
[23:29] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Before the installation starts is what I meant.
[23:29] <kaspi> AMS-ITGuy: not sure now xD
[23:30] <aBound> lol
[23:30] <lion42> AMS-ITGuy, at least, it isn't in default mode. In "expert" mode it may be, I'm not sure.
[23:30] <kjaer> and you can change the hostname in /etc/hostname
[23:30] <lion42> Actually, I'm going to run an install right now to see what happens. /me curious.
[23:30] <aBound> kaspi, I want to select the packages first before the installation occurs. :P
[23:30] <RaeCarruth> hi, does anyone know how to run evolution in the background and have the messaging menu notify me when a new message arrives?
[23:30] <lion42> That said. aBound, the hassle of doing what you want to do is probably greatly outweighed by the hassle that would be just deleting the packages after the fact.
[23:30] <skwird> RaeCarruth, are you on Gnome3?
[23:31] <RaeCarruth> Unity
[23:31] <StepNjump> skwird, let me check
[23:31] <aBound> lion42, Wouldn't sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean rid some packages?
[23:31] <sKew^_-> kjaer, iam loged in ;)
[23:31] <skwird> Ah, I know that in Gnome3 you can just minimize it and it notifies you in the notification area... Not sure about unity
[23:31] <aBound> lion42, Figures it'd be best to see how the alternative Ubuntu LiveCD works in VirtualBox eh?
[23:31] <kaspi> aBound: yeah that's what I said and you'll probably need some software for that... could you imagine what number of installation ISOs should be present, with all the variations of apps that you could choose from? :) search the google please, can't remember tha app's name
[23:32] <kjaer> sKew^_-, :-)
[23:32] <Guest45100> i search to install a full pack like ubuntu studio " or tango
[23:32] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, are you looking to deploy the same image to multiple machines?
[23:32] <lion42> aBound, I'm doing that right now, actually. Can you give me a minute?
[23:32] <StepNjump> skwird, I followed these directions http://www.lwp.ca/james/ for installing the printer
[23:32] <Guest45100> what s  new ??
[23:32] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Nope just for me as I noticed Ubuntu does install some unnecessary packages that I won't ever use.
[23:33] <antnash> Hey. I'm trying to completely remove all traces of samba from my system and start again with it from the start but when I do aptituce search samba, next to 3 of the items I've got 'pi'. What does this mean, and how do I get rid of them?
[23:33] <kaspi> aBound: could you just purge them then?
[23:33] <aBound> lion42, No problem.
[23:33] <StepNjump> skwird: I guess I should have used checkinstall eh?
[23:33] <aBound> kaspi, I could but I'd have to find all of them one by one.
[23:33] <lion42> aBound, I'm not finding that feature in expert mode on the install CD, either.
[23:33] <lion42> Er, *alternate install cd
[23:34] <aBound> Ahh... :P
[23:34] <skwird> StepNjump, are these debs available from the official repository/
[23:34] <kaspi> aBound: You may better try ArchLinux then, all it installs with is a package manager called Pacman
[23:34] <skwird> do a yum search brother*
[23:34] <StepNjump> no I don't think so skwird
[23:34] <skwird> oops
[23:34] <skwird> apt search brother*
[23:34] <aBound> kaspi, How about this you think this would be of any help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, is your samba install not working?  if you want to start over just delete the config file
[23:35] <kaspi> aBound: can't help with this, I can't display that link for now
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> aBound, I feel your pain, but I don't think you can get that granular
[23:35] <AMS-ITGuy> OK, so seriously who wants to help with my VPN problem? LOL
[23:35] <kjaer> antnash, "   the most common states are p, meaning that no trace of the package
[23:35] <skwird> What is it?
[23:35] <kjaer>            exists on the system"
[23:36] <kjaer> antnash, found it here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/aptitude.8.html
[23:36] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy, yeah, samba was not working at all. But not it's not working at all even worse. I've just read a little on the flags, and p is purged, i is installed. how can it be both purged and installed?
[23:36] <aBound> AMS-ITGuy, Seems like it I mean it would be nice to have that capability but doesn't seem like Ubuntu offers or we're missing something at best.
[23:36] <aBound> kaspi, No problem.
[23:37] <antnash> kjaer, How would I go about removing something that's both purged and removed?
[23:37] <skwird> StepNjump, when you follow those steps are you getting any errors or missing dependencies?
[23:37] <StepNjump> skwird: I get this when trying to go to synaptic E: The package brhl2170wlpr needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[23:37] <StepNjump> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[23:38] <StepNjump> Yes I got some errors... Let me pastebin it
[23:38] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, sorry did you try an uninstall it - and now it's not working?
[23:39] <antnash> AMD-ITGuy, that's exactly what I did
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, sounds like it didn't uninstall clean - have you rebooted?  have you tried reinstalling with and forcing?
[23:40] <helgee> Hi!
[23:40] <daysahead5> how important is swap space?
[23:40] <antnash> I tried uninstalling it, and now after reinstalling no smbd init is created (which I seem to remember it should be)
[23:40] <skwird> StepNjump, the problem sounds like that deb package was built for debian systems not ubuntu..
[23:40] <daysahead5> i have 4gb ram with no swap space
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5, depends on how much physical RAM you have
[23:40] <daysahead5> 4gb
[23:40] <AMS-ITGuy> daysahead5, with 4gb I'd put 4gb of swap
[23:40] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy, I have rebooted multiple times. How do I reinstall and force?
[23:41] <daysahead5> thanks
[23:41] <helgee> im trying to build postler but i cant configure it cause of missing sqlite3. I added it via apt-get install sqlite3, but the buildscript say "cant find sqlite3. check pkg_config_path" I dont know what to do now
[23:42] <trism> helgee: you need the -dev package when building from source
[23:42] <skwird> some google searching presents this solution: dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package-name-goes-here}
[23:42] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, what happens when you just try to use the software center to reinstall the samba package?
[23:43] <skwird> StepNjump, try reinstalling with dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq package-name-here
[23:43] <antnash> AMS-ITGuy: I'll try after this reboot
[23:43] <AMS-ITGuy> antnash, kk!
[23:44] <skwird> found this long thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590793
[23:44] <AMS-ITGuy> ...so VPN stuff..... anyone have experience (/cry)
[23:44] <skwird> some people have run into the error you mentioned StepNjump
[23:44] <ericus> is pptp vpn 128bit really that insecure as some people says?
[23:45] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, what VPN client are you using?
[23:45] <AMS-ITGuy> ericus, i use PPTP at my office - any data that goes over a public network is at risk
[23:45] <ericus> skwird: network-manager-pptp
[23:46] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, PPTP and I'm having a problem with split tunnelling on Ubuntu works fine on Windows 7 Pro
[23:46] <whoever> hi all, I am using aptitude , what is the "v" stand for the the left of the package
[23:48] <RussellAlan> Someone please help, I am trying to download in Mozilla, it says Could not save to /tmp unkown error
[23:48] <RussellAlan> Try saving somewhere else
[23:48] <skwird> I had troubles with split tunnelling on fedora for a long time till I switched to the open version of CiscoAnyConnect
[23:48] <skwird> its called openconnect
[23:49] <ericus> openvpn is a pain in the ass to configure in ubuntu
[23:49] <artao> hai
[23:49] <helgee> trism: thanks, that did the trick :]
[23:50] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, is there a Windows client as well?  I have to support Windows 7 PCs
[23:50] <artao> general linux question here: Is there some way I can add "Kill this application" to a window's right click menu? ... I'm running XFCE with Ubuntu 11.10
[23:51] <StepNjump> skwird, yes you are right... but I think it was translated for ubuntu later on
[23:51] <StepNjump> sorry for the delay skwird I was on the phone... always the phone. Ok I will try that. I will brb
[23:51] <Sivik> Why if I have removed a module from the kernel modules folders, does it still load?
[23:52] <cfhowlett> artao: click on the X in the top window will kill it
[23:53] <skwird> ericus, AMS-ITGuy  hmm.. I saw this post http://www.halecomm.net/blog/2010/04/ubuntu-9-10-getting-pptp-vpnc-and-openconnect-vpn-to-work/ and am now having second thoughts about migrating
[23:53] <skwird> is it really that awful?!
[23:54] <skwird> I am on VPN ALL the time. its pretty important to me
[23:55] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, have you considered running openconnect on Cygwin?
[23:55] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, my problem isn't accessing the remote VPN LAN, it's that I have to route my data through it.
[23:55] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, Cygwin?  ew.... how old is that? lol
[23:56] <skwird> hahaha
[23:56] <skwird> sorry I am completely out of touch with windows
[23:56] <skwird> its been ages
[23:56] <aBound> We don't speak of dark things like that here. lol j/k
[23:57] <riex> Hello guys, how do i add a another root user? :)
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, the PPTP connection works fine, but it routes all of my internet requests through the remote gateway.... if I uncheck the "don't use remote gateway" in the control panel, it doesn't route any data other than to the PPTP server I connected to
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> skwird, it's not a huge deal, but I want to know why it's doing what it's doing.
[23:57] <AMS-ITGuy> riex, add the user to the sudo group
[23:57] <riex> AMS-ITGuy: Where? do you have any kind of guides for it?
[23:58] <AMS-ITGuy> riex, sudo adduser username groupname
[23:59] <StepNjump> skwird: http://paste.ubuntu.com/832051/
[23:59] <skwird> AMS-ITGuy, it definitely sounds like a configuration issue
[23:59] <riex> AMS-ITGuy: I have to past under groupname root or what?
[23:59] <StepNjump> skwird: it's totally stuck