[00:01] <adamcunnington> ?
[00:05] <Pici> adamcunnington: by default it will install the one with the most greatest version number, which is usually what you want.
[00:06] <adamcunnington> Pici: ok great thanks, which one does it display description for though because apt-cache search looks like the core repository
[00:06] <rocktop> any ubuntu best torrent tracker please ?
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: do you actually want to know about ubuntu or centos ?
[00:07] <Pici> adamcunnington: take a look at apt-cache policy's output to determine where it is looking
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: they have quite different packages available, so I'm just asking you to clarify
[00:07] <rocktop> ikonia:  I have both
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: are you trying to use them together or totally seperate ?
[00:07] <rocktop> ikonia:  any one available will be the good
[00:07] <ikonia> rocktop: what sort of functionality do you want as "best" is pretty open ?
[00:08] <adamcunnington> Pici: yea, i checked it out in synaptics, thanks mate
[00:08] <rocktop> ikonia:  I don't find anything for centos , and I am looking some one for ubuntu
[00:08] <ikonia> rocktop: search for "torrent" in the package manager to get pretty much all available options
[00:08] <ikonia> rocktop: but if you want specific advice then you'll need to call out your requirements
[00:09] <rocktop> ikonia:  No Matches found
[00:09] <ikonia> rocktop: that seems very unlikley that there are no matches for the word torrent
[00:10] <rocktop> ikonia:  I run now my centos machine
[00:10] <rocktop> ikonia:  is there anything for centos ?
[00:10] <ikonia> rocktop: thats not really going to help you - you said you wanted ubuntu
[00:10] <ikonia> rocktop: #centos is the centos channel, that's why I asked if you wanted centos or ubuntu help
[00:11] <rocktop> ikonia:  ok thank you
[00:18] <lichen> hello
[00:19] <Synthead> how can I get the .deb files from this without adding a repo to my system? https://launchpad.net/~mqchael/+archive/pipelight
[00:20] <usr13> Synthead: WHy not add a repo?
[00:31] <Yoda3890> Anyone here... I seem to be having intermittent issues with my computer when I enter my password for any reason (login, sudo, unlock). The system seems to "hang" for a bit (30s to a min?) before successfully authenticating my password. "gnome-screensaver-command -d" works just fine when the system is "hanging." In a terminal with sudo I get an error saying it failed to contact kerberos.mit.edu becuase the connection timed out.
[00:34] <Yoda3890> Okay, I don't think I'm seeing any messages here. Gonna quit and reconnect under my actual login and repost question.
[00:36] <nbros652> Anyone here... I seem to be having intermittent issues with my computer when I enter my password for any reason (login, sudo, unlock). The system seems to "hang" for a bit (30s to a min?) before successfully authenticating my password. "gnome-screensaver-command -d" works just fine when the system is "hanging." In a terminal with sudo I get an error saying it failed to contact kerberos.mit.edu becuase the connection timed out.
[00:36] <theTroy> how to print out what dd reads from the disk? And could I start dd from half-way? (I got a new HDD want to check there is no data on it)
[00:37] <daftykins> theTroy: brand new or second hand new?
[00:38] <theTroy> daftykins: brand new, want to make sure its not a "returned" brand new drive
[00:38] <daftykins> heh, the SMART data of power cycles might help with that
[00:38] <daftykins> was it not in a sealed anti-static bag?
[00:38] <theTroy> USB drive, ubuntu says SMART is not available
[00:39] <theTroy> Toshiba 2TB from amazon..., wasnt sealed :)
[00:39] <daftykins> oh 0o
[00:39] <theTroy> they never seal HDDs
[00:39] <daftykins> so it's some kind of external thing?
[00:39] <marcos_> Boa noite.
[00:40] <fibz_> i need a wifi-N card that will work, plug and play in ubuntu. does any one know of a device that works for sure in 13.10 without having to mess with drivers or firmware or anything? i just want to plug it in and have it work. what wifi adapter will do this?
[00:40] <theTroy> USB3 external drive, 2.5"
[00:45] <isasha> Just wondering, how come both chromium and firefox have such a hard time keeping up with my browsing on ubuntu, compared with os x?
[00:45] <fibz_> dont know. my xubuntu renders pages in firefox faster then windows or osx
[00:45] <isasha> On the same laptop, under ubuntu things start to visibly slow down with just a few tabs open, whereas under os x I can have a hundred tabs open before any lag starts to come
[00:46] <isasha> furthermore, if I open a tab too many, the whole system hangs and I have to force shut it down
[00:46] <isasha> ... aaand the problem now is that I force shut it down improperly and now it won't boot :/
[00:46] <fibz_> it sounds like a bigger problem than just loading pages less quickly
[00:47] <isasha> yeah it does sound like that too
[00:47] <adamcunnington> how can i check pc specs from within ubuntu? specifically cpu
[00:47] <isasha> could it be related to available disk space?
[00:48] <isasha> adamcunnington: Hit Super (Start button in windows) , Type and and open System Monitor.
[00:48] <adamcunnington> isasha: perfect thtnka
[00:48] <adamcunnington> thanks*
[00:48] <isasha> no problem ;)
[00:49] <fibz_> im my experience, it's either a problem with the sata/ide controller, a problem with the cable, a problem with the hard drive, or it is just swapping too much. cant keep up with running the system and swap. but that may not be your problem. if you dont get an answer right away, i would take this problem to the forum
[00:49] <OerHeks> adamcunnington, lscpu
[00:50] <HackerII> adamcunnington   cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:50]  * HackerII goes for coffee
[00:51] <isasha> fibz_: it's an SSD and I believe it's directly connected to the mobo, and I don't have swap
[00:51] <OerHeks> HackerII, black please, and lshw is also fun
[00:51] <fibz_> that could be the issue. perhapse you should try adding a mechinical hard drive with a swap partition
[00:52] <fibz_> this laptop doesnt have swap and sometimes i have mouse lag
[00:52] <isasha> I... can't exactly add a hardrive to a laptop
[00:52] <OerHeks> No swap, those issues fit perfect
[00:52] <isasha> When I was first setting it up with ubuntu people on here told me that swap isn't neccesary
[00:52] <OerHeks> isasha, depends how you ask that
[00:53] <fibz_> well it sounds like your FSB isnt able to keep up
[00:53] <isasha> front-side bus? I have no issues on os-x which runs of the same ssd
[00:54] <fibz_> because your OSX has a SWAP
[00:54] <isasha> so.... I should set up a swap partition for ubuntu?
[00:54] <fibz_> it would at least eliminate that as the issue
[00:55] <haha> how strange it is! sometimes my ubuntu startup with command line ,sometimes xwindow
[00:56] <fibz_> your logs might tell you why
[00:56] <isasha> how big should my swap be fibz_ ? equivalent to my ram iirc?
[00:56] <fibz_> at least 2GB
[00:56] <basketball> heyo
[00:56] <Zorton> compiz desktop environment gives some kinks, it did not work
[00:56] <Zorton> Me ... why did this happen?
[00:57] <basketball> hey does gnome-screensaver actually have a screensaver
[00:58] <OerHeks> basketball, why, didn't you get any?
[00:58] <basketball> OerHeks,  how do i set yp a screensaver
[00:59] <EminentDomain> i'm having issues connecting to my windows share from ubuntu
[00:59] <EminentDomain> it keeps telling me to check my user information
[00:59] <EminentDomain> but it's accurrate
[00:59] <EminentDomain> i'm using ubuntu desktop 12.04
[01:00] <EminentDomain> i went to file-->connect to server
[01:00] <EminentDomain> selected windows share
[01:00] <EminentDomain> entered server name
[01:00] <fibz_> you have password protected sharing enabled in the windows share EminentDomain
[01:00] <EminentDomain> fibz_ what?
[01:00] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter   like in windows
[01:01] <EminentDomain> not sure what you mean by password protected sharing
[01:01] <EminentDomain> it's a server 2008 machine i have EVERYONE set to full control
[01:01] <EminentDomain> but besdies which i'm trying to connect as the administrator user
[01:02] <fibz_> are you on the same network? are you on the same workgroup? do you have samba installed? is filesharing enabled in windows? is password protected sharing enabled in windows EminentDomain?
[01:02] <EminentDomain> fibz_ yes same network
[01:03] <EminentDomain> i assume samba is installed by default with ubuntu desktop seeing as there is a built in option to connect to windows share in nautilus
[01:03] <EminentDomain> and filesharing is enabled seeing as other machines on the lan can access it
[01:03] <EminentDomain> an i have no clue what password protected sharing is in windows
[01:03] <fibz_> try sharing a folder in nautilus and make sure it doesnt ask to install anything
[01:04] <fibz_> well for windows support, you should ask in ##windows
[01:04] <haha> check your firewall?
[01:04] <haha> setreinforce 0?
[01:05] <EminentDomain> i didn't ask in windows since i'm not having an issue with windows
[01:05] <EminentDomain> it's ubuntu that wont connect
[01:05] <EminentDomain> all my windows machines are working fine
[01:06] <EminentDomain> i just looked into the password protected sharing and it was off
[01:06] <fibz_> as long as he can share a folder in nautilus and is on the same windows workgroup he should be able to access it by going to Go-> Location -> smb://2k8hostname/path/to/share
[01:06] <EminentDomain> how do i change the workgroup in ubuntu tho?
[01:06] <EminentDomain> that i am not sure of
[01:06] <fibz_> if you did not change the workgroup yourself then you are on the "WORKGROUP" workgroup
[01:06] <EminentDomain> my server is on WORKGROUP
[01:06] <EminentDomain> ok
[01:08] <basketball> how do i set my pc up where when i press alt then a letter it types the spanish version of the letter   like in windows
[01:11] <EminentDomain> ok well looks like i got it working... not sure how
[01:11] <EminentDomain> well it's not really working since i dont have permissions to do anything
[01:11] <fibz_> on which side?
[01:11] <EminentDomain> ubuntu side
[01:11] <EminentDomain> cant copy or write anything to or from
[01:12] <fibz_> that would be the effective permissions on the server side which is ##windows
[01:12] <fibz_> ##windows-server too
[01:14] <EminentDomain> nvm got it
[01:14] <EminentDomain> once i enabled password protected it worked
[01:15] <fibz_> there we go
[01:15] <EminentDomain> since i had to authenticate as a local windows user
[01:24] <Guest64197> Hey all, I'm new to ubuntu just did my first new build and am checking out all the features
[01:27] <adamcunnington> where can i modify the size of my partition?
[01:27] <adamcunnington> i created it with lvm and have ran out of space! need to increase the partition size
[01:28] <fibz_> i would boot from the install DVD/USB and use gparted
[01:30] <adamcunnington> fibz_: that sounds like a nightmare :| i just want to increase it
[01:30] <cat_pants> anyone know how to write an ubuntu iso to a flash drive? I tried doing "dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb; sync" and I tried doing "cat ubuntu.iso > /dev/sdb; sync" as root of course, and I tried using Unetbootin, which seems way too buggy to use. Any other ideas? Am I supposed to format the usb drive before trying to dd to it? After writing data to my usb drive, the volume label doesn't show up in "fdisk -l"
[01:30] <adamcunnington> apparently it's easy when using lvm
[01:30] <cat_pants> but it does show up in cfdisk for some reason
[01:32] <advx_> Good Morning all
[01:33] <adamcunnington> usr13: are you there?
[01:35] <adamcunnington> Guys, how do i extend my disk volume :|
[01:37] <psusi> cat_pants, did you verify the md5sum?
[01:44] <adamcunnington> help, i have no space on my disk and can't find out how to extend it, everything online looks incredibly complicated
[01:45] <somsip> adamcunnington: fibz_ gave you the answer already. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[01:45] <adamcunnington> somsip: read it but looks really confusing
[01:45] <somsip> adamcunnington: that's how you do it
[01:47] <adamcunnington> oh that was really easy
[01:47] <adamcunnington> all the other guides / askubuntu answers i found were horrific
[01:47] <adamcunnington> thanks
[01:49] <fibz_> your welcome
[01:49] <Viskee> anyone get a .vce reader running in ubuntu with wine?
[01:49] <Viskee> I'm getting a weird error message
[01:50] <adamcunnington> somsip: i used lvextend to increase the volume and it was succesfull but a disk usage analysis shows it's 100% still
[01:50] <somsip> adamcunnington: no idea. I don't use LVM
[01:56] <ryanx> anyone on steam?
[01:57] <somsip> !anyone | ryanx
[01:58] <Viskee> anyone have experience with vce readers in wine on ubuntu?
[01:58] <earthian> Hello, Do you know how to disable the LSHIFT+RSHIFT keyboard layout switching in Gnome 3.8? It is not enabled anywhere but still works.. Bug??
[02:01] <basketball> how do i open a sqlite2 file
[02:02] <somsip> !info sqlitebrowser | basketball
[02:03] <f3deX> :)
[02:07] <basketball> somsip,  how do i convert sqllite 2 to 3
[02:07] <Viskee> When it comes down to it, what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu paper?
[02:08] <Viskee> ubuntu server*
[02:08] <somsip> basketball: I'd guess that you dump from 2 and read into 3
[02:08] <somsip> Viskee: maybe a bit out of date but possibly helpful http://is.gd/okXjIM
[02:11] <FuuqUmiist> how well does Ubuntu work with external USB cards like those that are integrated into headphones and headsets?
[02:15] <xangua> Visual`: if you mean packages, you can install any package from repositories regardless desktop or server
[02:16] <basketball> hey does gnome-screensaver actually have a screensaver or does it just turn a grey screen
[02:16] <JavaNunes> oi
[02:17] <somsip> basketball: it has access to different screensavers that you can choose, or install new ones. 'dim' is the default IIRC
[02:17] <23LAAI7GM> Hello, I just installed graphite on Ubuntu Server 13.10 and I'm getting "ImportError: No module named _cairo" when trying to render any graph. python -c "import cairo" works. Can someone please give me any tips of what can be wrong?
[02:17] <basketball> somsip,  how do i install new ones and how do i configure it
[02:17] <somsip> basketball: http://askubuntu.com/questions/292995/configure-screensaver-in-ubuntu
[02:18] <basketball> somsip,  if i install xscreensaver then i cant use ctrl alt l
[02:18] <somsip> basketball: I don't know what that is
[02:18] <basketball> somsip,  lock screen
[02:18] <MAbeeTT_> nick MAbeeTT
[02:20] <somsip> 23LAAI7GM: possibly packaging bug https://answers.launchpad.net/graphite/+question/193989 POssible solution http://is.gd/LLIur0
[02:21] <somsip> basketball: possibly you need to replace the command invoked with CTRL ALT L with something that runs xscreensaver-command -lock. No idea personally, but inferred by http://is.gd/jRGi7C
[02:22] <EminentDomain> is there a utility like filezilla that supports webdav?
[02:23] <EminentDomain> in windows they have cyberduck
[02:23] <somsip> EminentDomain: possibly helpful - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/WebDAV#WebDAV_Clients
[02:23] <EminentDomain> but cant seem to find anything for ubuntu
[02:24] <EminentDomain> yea i'm using nautilus now trying to copy stuff... doesnt seem to be very accurrate but not sure
[02:24] <EminentDomain> in terms of speed and time that is
[02:24] <EminentDomain> in filezilla they show each file individually
[02:24] <EminentDomain> (same with cyberduck)
[02:24] <EminentDomain> perhaps the command line version might be better
[02:29] <unraufamily> i
[02:29] <unraufamily> hi
[02:30] <unraufamily> hello
[02:30] <unraufamily> gh
[02:30] <unraufamily> xc
[02:30] <unraufamily> h
[02:30] <unraufamily> xch
[02:30] <GoldStandard> unraufamily hello
[02:35] <eskrima> Hi does anyone know where I can find great info and resources for programming. I'm new to it so I don't know what should I look for. Thanks
[02:35] <GeekDude> Does wilee_nilee still get on here frequently?
[02:36] <advx_> bye 4 now
[02:39] <icedwater> eskrima: glad you're still here. Try stackoverflow.com and codecademy.com :) Also note that #ubuntu is meant primarily for ubuntu support, so please chat about other things at #ubuntu-offtopic.
[02:40] <GeekDude> Does wilee_nilee still hang around on here?
[02:41] <eskrima> Icedwater ok. I will re member. Sorry
[02:42] <matfx> Hi i can't setup twitter on ubuntu 12.04.4 64 bit. Gwibber just say need SSL required. What should i do?
[02:42] <eskrima> Icedwater :)
[02:43] <icedwater> eskrima: it's OK, since it's fairly quiet anyhow :)
[02:44] <boycey> any Ruby programmer here ?
[02:45] <eskrima> Icedwater yeah. Sometimes it's so crowded with questions that you don't know which to answer first
[02:46] <funky> hey folks does zip preserves owners info or not?
[02:46] <funky> I mean file owner
[02:47] <funky> and does tinyupload works with wget?
[02:47] <funky> some speedy share sites does not
[02:47] <funky> do not
[02:53] <Beldar> GeekDude, That was my nick, what's up?
[02:54] <GeekDude> Beldar: Remember helping me get reboot working on an install a while back?
[02:54] <Beldar> GeekDude, I wish I could, hehe.
[02:54] <boycey> anyone familiar with arduino here ?
[02:54] <GeekDude> You had me add something to the kernel parameters, iirc
[02:55] <GeekDude> anyways, I just reformatted, and am having the same issue :/
[02:55] <Beldar> GeekDude, nomodeset?
[02:55] <GeekDude> maybe
[02:55] <GeekDude> I'm fiddling with disabling acpi atm
[02:55]  * GeekDude will try that next
[02:55] <Beldar> GeekDude, Not a real area I have had to mess with is all.
[02:56] <GeekDude> I added nomodeset at the end of the kernel params, accessed by pressing "e", but it gave me an error: unknown command `nomodeset'
[02:57] <Beldar> GeekDude, Put it before no splas
[02:57] <Beldar> splash
[02:57]  * GeekDude manually powers off system once again
[02:57] <funky> :P
[02:58] <funky> with hammer?
[02:58] <GeekDude> funky: toe
[02:58] <GeekDude> toe-fu
[02:58] <Beldar> GeekDude, GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset quiet splash"   with it added
[02:59] <GeekDude> Beldar: I must be looking in the wrong place, because I don't see GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in here
[02:59] <GeekDude> although, nomodeset does ring a bell
[03:00] <Beldar> GeekDude, From the grub menu it looks different, the key is where "nomodeset quiet splash"
[03:01] <Beldar> GeekDude, The first example was the line in /etc/default/grub you would modify for permanent use
[03:02] <Beldar> The mods go in that area like the acpi in whatever form that is added
[03:02] <GeekDude> This tut says to put them after the linux /boot line
[03:03] <GeekDude> There aren't any options there for me to start with, though
[03:04] <Beldar> GeekDude, That area in front of quiet splash is where you place these. If you want a text no splash boot remove quiet splash
[03:04] <GeekDude> is that because I'm running server?
[03:04] <Beldar> GeekDude, Can I see the tutorial?
[03:04] <GeekDude> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[03:06] <Beldar> GeekDude, The only difference here is I said before quiet splash, it shows after, same thing basically. I suspect explaining the problem to the channel might help you.
[03:07] <GeekDude> Also, best shutdown method? Shutdown -h 0, poweroff, halt, etc
[03:08] <wjtaylor> How can I get libimobile4 on 12.04?
[03:08] <wjtaylor> libimobiledevice4 ^^
[03:14] <GeekDude> Hey channel! Any idea how to my hang-on-reboot problem? sudo poweroff works fine
[03:14] <GeekDude> sudo reboot hangs
[03:17] <GeekDude> it hangs on [75.numbers] reboot: Restarting system
[03:20] <GeekDude> adding "nomodeset apci=off noapic nolapic" doesn't seem to help me
[03:20] <GeekDude> to the linux /boot line in the grub kernel settings
[03:22] <Busybyeski> what's a solid weather program, that might have toolbar integration?
[03:23] <Beldar> GeekDude, This from the grub menu?
[03:23] <GeekDude> Beldar: yeah. Highlight the default ubuntu boot and hit "e"
[03:23] <Beldar> GeekDude, Cool, the per-session mod.
[03:23] <GeekDude> I'm testing until it works
[03:24] <GeekDude> OH COOL!
[03:24] <GeekDude> reboot=bios fixed it
[03:24] <densin> hi all
[03:25] <densin> this is suitable place for ask about network route in ubuntu ? or other channel ?
[03:25] <cfhowlett> densin, this one or #ubuntu-server
[03:25] <densin> thank cfhowlett
[03:26] <wjtaylor> is there a ppa for libimobiledevice for 12.04
[03:26] <GeekDude> whoops, was waiting for grub, but got distracted. *restarts again*
[03:31] <chaos7theory> Would this channel support PPA issues?
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !ppa|chaos7theory, generally best to get help from the ppa packager but go ahead and ask
[03:32] <cfhowlett> *PPA's are unsupported*
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Ah, nevermind then xD
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Being I went to the mercurial channel but it's dead silent
[03:33] <cfhowlett> chaos7theory, forum/email support?
[03:33] <chaos7theory> Going to check there next
[03:35] <chaos7theory> Mainly it's the issue of the ppa version of mrcurial requiring an unnecessary amount of dependencies, including x11
[03:37] <GeekDude> Beldar: It's all fixed now. I added the reboot=b option to the /etc/default/grub file. Works perfectly
[03:37] <GeekDude> Thanks for your time
[03:40] <Beldar> GeekDude, Good job, glad I could be here to see it.
[03:40] <GeekDude> :P
[03:40] <GeekDude> I don't think this is the same solution I used last time, but I like this one very much
[03:40] <pranav> i installed kubuntu iso for embedded device on my flash. evrything is fine, but ends with a busybox atop of bare kernel.
[03:40] <GeekDude> Well, gotta jet
[03:42] <Bublik2002> anyone able to install the latest version of itunes on ubuntu? i tried it via play on linux and it gives me an error and doesnt want to install
[03:42] <pranav> how can i transfer the std i/o to LCD ? please help
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !itunes|Bublik2002,
[03:43] <Bublik2002> i know its not available but there are ways to install via playonlinux
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, the LATEST itunes?  not going to happen.
[03:43] <Bublik2002> i get it there are good alternatives.. but i want to be able to stream itunes radio
[03:43] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, you're not reading.  the latest itunes *will not* be running on linux.  sorry.
[03:44] <Bublik2002> cfhowlett: so whats the latest version that can be installed? 10?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, earlier versions *may* run with 0-100% functionality
[03:45] <Bublik2002> can i run a server on my windows box that will let me stream itunes radio to my ubuntu box?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> Bublik2002, do a search : install + itunes + ubuntu   for your alternatives
[03:46] <cfhowlett> stream + itunes + ubuntu is also a good search parameter
[03:47] <JavaNunes> buceta
[03:49] <pranav> why do no1 ever talks in #ubuntu-arm
[03:50] <JavaNunes> i want download the module bucetaosujo for kernel 3.9
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !arm|pranav,
[03:51] <cfhowlett> pranav, see the wiki
[03:52] <pranav> how to transfer std i/p o/p to LCD instead of serial console ?
[03:53] <pranav> i installed kubuntu on embdd device
[03:58] <pranav> how to launch a new shell with output directed to a particualar ttyN ?
[04:05] <legrandin> hey guys, is there a way to save my terminal setup when i restart my computer? i usually need a bunch open for development
[04:14] <marz> How can I reset my compiz configurations? I've set everything transparent hence I can not see anything that is open
[04:16] <Beldar> marz, What ubuntu release?
[04:17] <whichDesktop> which desktop has spaces where you can mouse to the corner and fan out all the apps?
[04:17] <Beldar> whichDesktop, gnome shell does that.
[04:18] <whichDesktop> Beldar: is that gbuntu or something?
[04:18] <GoldStandard> im checking netstat and some program called dnsmasq is listening and contacting foreign address *:*, is this normal?
[04:18] <GoldStandard> the address is actually <IP_ADDRESS>:*
[04:19] <Beldar> whichDesktop, It's the gnome shell (desktop) the gnome developers release basically
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: so just download unity ubuntu and download gnome desktop?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> can't i just download an iso with gnow in by default?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: ^
[04:19] <Beldar> whichDesktop, What release are you using?
[04:19] <whichDesktop> Beldar: idk yet
[04:20] <alexandros_c> help, I am trying to upgrade my system but I keep getting untrusted source, does anyone know how I can fix this?
[04:20] <whichDesktop> Beldar: something stable for my asusq400a, i think i want to use the next LTS when it comes out next april, but for now something that's not gonna break on my machine like linux mint (mouse stopped working after a while and doesn't open teamviewer sometimes)
[04:21] <Ben64> alexandros_c: the first step is to pastebin the full command and error you are getting
[04:21] <Beldar> whichDesktop, 12.04 and maybe 12.10 is sudo apt-get install gnome-shell later releases, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[04:22] <whichDesktop> Beldar: what about 13?
[04:22] <marz> I was playing with compiz settings via the CCSM program. I accidentally tweaked it to make every transparent. How do I reset it?
[04:22] <Beldar> whichDesktop, Most of that desktop is already there as gnome 3 under unity.
[04:22] <Beldar> whichDesktop, See later releases.
[04:24] <Beldar> marz, There is a reset, however if differs on the ubuntu releases, which are you running?
[04:24] <whichDesktop> Beldar: is 13 less stable than 12.04 or 12.1?
[04:24] <marz> Beldar: 12.04 64-bit. P.S. I already uninstalled the compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:24] <Beldar> whichDesktop, Not answerable.
[04:25] <alexandros_c> Ben64 here is the command and error https://gist.github.com/amcollie/9361132
[04:25] <Beldar> marz, That does no good, is it still gone, unity is a plugin in it, this unity?
[04:25] <whichDesktop> Beldar: why not
[04:25] <marz> Beldar: Nope, the unity of the other account
[04:25] <Beldar> whichDesktop, It is an opinion, I don;t have one.
[04:26] <Beldar> marz, "the unity of the other account" what does that mean?
[04:26] <justin_zw> Correct me if I'm wrong, but pages made with FormSpecialPage actually process the submitted data on the same page, right? So the onSubmit callback is suppoes to be doing whatever you wanted to do with that data?
[04:27] <justin_zw> (For example, for an email extension, I would send the email in onSubmit)
[04:27] <marz> Beldar: I'm not so sur emyself either. What I'm trying to say is when I logged in to my other account, the account where I used the CCSM, all the windows that I open are transparent.
[04:27] <Beldar> marz, If compiz is correct unity --reset should work
[04:28] <Beldar> marz, try in that account unity --reset   usually a reboot or logout is needed.
[04:28] <marz> Beldar: Can't do it in tty, I can't do it in GUI either since I can't see anything when I log in to the other account.
[04:29] <Beldar> marz, No TTY from that account?
[04:37] <fletom> I've tried installing 13.10 so many different ways on my Mac. No matter what I do it complains that it can't install the bootloader. Can anyone help?
[04:39] <funky> hello
[04:39] <funky> does tar preserve ownder and execute permissions?
[04:39] <funky> ownder
[04:40] <funky> lol owner
[04:40] <Ben64> alexandros_c: you need to get the keys for those 3rd party repos you have added
[04:40] <alexandros_c>  thanks for your help
[04:41] <alexandros_c> Ben64, thanks for your help
[04:41] <alexandros_c> already did it
[04:42] <Cha0> i can not find my mobile's name in the list for installing ubuntu os on ubuntu site, is there any other way to find out?
[04:44] <somsip> !touch | Cha0 (if it's not there, it's not supported)
[04:45] <justin_zw> (For example, for an email extension, I would send the email in onSubmit)
[04:45] <justin_zw> Whoops, my bad
[04:45] <justin_zw> Forgot this wasn't Skype.
[04:58] <rafs> hi people. how do i disable the startup bluetooth every time i reboot the computer?
[05:00] <rafs> every time i restart my computer bluetooth is connected
[05:03] <jayar> if my girls logged in, how can i access my folder via terminal?
[05:03] <jayar> my home
[05:03] <grahamsavage> hey can anyone recommend a filenaming tool.. something with a UI and that supports regex?
[05:04] <TheProf> Good day.  I've been running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my server for over a year very well. But now a recent reboot and my machine will not load: "Gave up waiting for root device" and "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/really-long-string does not exist." and drops me into a busy-box shell.  I'm the IT volunteer at this school so I'm looking for guidance please.
[05:04] <somsip> jayar: su -l jayar && cd
[05:05] <somsip> TheProf: sounds like a dead HD, bad connection, or similar
[05:05] <crocket> What feed aggregator do you recommend for ubuntu 13.10?
[05:06] <TheProf> somsip, Hello.  The boot partition resides on a RAID1 controller.  The raid 1 says it's not degraded.  I suppose my question is - if the disk is dead, how did it boot up that far? Thank you
[05:06] <somsip> TheProf: no idea about raid, so I can't help further
[05:08] <TheProf> somsip, That's no problem.  Assuming that it's just a regular drive, is there a recommended course of action to resolve this?
[05:08] <somsip> TheProf: check connections, check BIOS, check the HD in another machine, replace the HD. Something like that
[05:10] <GoldStandard> is it okay to trust ubuntu mirrors? also, each time i try to determine the best server using the "select best server" tool, it gives me a different result
[05:10] <TheProf> somsip, OK I understand.  If I can access / on the failed drive on another machine, can I pull off certain configuration files to keep my users username and passwords?
[05:10] <somsip> GoldStandard: official mirrors are official. Network conditions may vary
[05:11] <GoldStandard> somsip cool thanks
[05:11] <GoldStandard> somsip are mirrors really that much faster than the main server?
[05:11] <somsip> TheProf: trying in anpther machine will isolate whether it's a HD issue or a HD controller/mobo issue (or possibly something else that isn't directly the HD's fault)
[05:12] <somsip> GoldStandard: depends on network conditions. I do't use US servers because I don't like in the US, for example
[05:12] <somsip> *don't
[05:13] <GoldStandard> somsip i see, thanks
[05:14] <Voyage> I cant speak by my microphone pluged in. but the built in micro phone of my laptop works. I have toogled the audio settings but no use. any one has a clue?
[05:14] <betty_> Hi. I recently have my ubuntu crash and fail to load afterwards. I don't know what could have happened as I didn't do any changes to the system, or even download new things. When I boot my computer, it goes to wear the login screen is supposed to be and gives me the 'The system is running in low-graphics mode' error. I've googled it, some people recommend editing the greeter. (check, set to unity-greeter). Checked root directory for h
[05:14] <betty_> CONT: ing). Check nvidia drivers (check, reinstalled stable version)
[05:23] <notworking> Hey, can someone maybe help me? Having trouble installing ubuntu
[05:29] <notworking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu / xUbuntu on a 10 year old pc with 1.5gb ram, however it always freezes ~ 30 seconds after the reboot, what am I doing wrong? Tried usb installation, live cd installation, and wubi
[05:32] <notworking> I'm trying to install Ubuntu / xUbuntu on a 10 year old pc with 1.5gb ram, however it always freezes ~ 30 seconds after the reboot, what am I doing wrong? Tried usb installation, live cd installation, and wubi
[05:32] <jonne> does anyone know how to get multitouch working on a laptop touchpad? I know it's worked, but i never got it to work again after reinstalling ubuntu.
[05:32] <jonne> none of the config tools seem to recognise it
[05:33] <jonne> it won't even do the swiping the side to scroll thing
[05:34] <cdoublejj> what version of Open GL does Ubuntu 14.04 LTS use?
[05:34] <jonne> notworking, do you get grub?
[05:35] <jonne> can you boot into recovery mode?
[05:36] <notworking> jonne, i don't think so, I'm only following the steps on the ubuntu homepage
[05:36] <jonne> so, after the BIOS starts you just get a black screen?
[05:38] <notworking> No,  get the choice to use the old OS, which i want top get rid of, and ubuntu/xubuntu, then when i choose ubuntu/xubuntu, i have the "loading/working"-screen of those and after 30 seconds that freezes up (the animation that something is going on stops)
[05:41] <notworking> jonne did you get to read what i wrote last or should i repeat?
[05:42] <jonne> notworking, i got a call, sorry
[05:42] <CarlFK> notworking: "get the choice to use the old OS"   says something about grub, right?  if so, you should also have a rescue mode choice, or advanced options
[05:43] <jonne> after picking the xubuntu option, just press esc, you should see grub
[05:43] <jonne> what processor does the pc have?
[05:43] <notworking> pentium D
[05:43] <Beldar> cdoublejj, 14.04 is on #ubuntu+1
[05:44] <jonne> i believe ubuntu recentlishly dropped support for older x86 archs
[05:44] <notworking> so i should try an older build?
[05:45] <jonne> looking up some stuff to see if i'm not talking out of my ass, hold on
[05:46] <Beldar> notworking, You check the sum of the iso?
[05:46] <jonne> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/ubuntu-1010-maverick-meerkat-wont-run.html
[05:46] <jonne> so yeah, that was 4 years ago
[05:46] <jonne> looks like lubuntu still supports i586 (which is what you're on)
[05:47] <cesar_> list
[05:47] <jonne> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[05:47] <jonne> notworking ^
[05:48] <notworking> alright so I'll try out Lubuntu then! thanks jonne
[05:49] <jonne> no worries
[05:49] <notworking> however I am abit confused, as all the requirements sites just stated the ram needed, nothing about certain hardware
[05:51] <zsw__> im trying to install kali through usb and i have a 4GB stick and a 3GB kali linux iso and its still not createable
[05:51] <jonne> yeah, they say minimum p4, 1Ghz, which is weird
[05:52] <jonne> maybe they never updated it?
[05:52] <zsw__> jonne: me?
[05:53] <jonne> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html
[05:53] <jonne> However, Ubuntu precise will not run on i586 or earlier processors. Despite the architecture name "i386", support for actual 80386 processors (and their clones) was dropped with the Sarge (r3.1) release of Debian
[05:53] <jonne> ah crap, he left
[05:53] <kopasetik> Hi all, have you heard about the GnuTLS crypto bug?
[05:57] <noobuntu> HI, so I need to change current partition which is Ubuntu is installed on to NTSF. I'm wondering if I go to disks->change partitiion type, will it successfully reformat and allow my window discs to install os on it?
[05:57] <Beldar> kopasetik, Not a support issue is all.
[05:58] <Beldar> noobuntu, You can make a ntfs in linux or on the install.
[06:00] <noobuntu> So after I change the partition type, it won't just "corrupt" and shut off and be unable to change OS, correct? I'm changing the type while on the same OS.
[06:00] <kopasetik> well, don't i need to install a new version of the app?
[06:00] <kopasetik> or will ubuntu roll out an update automatically?
[06:01] <TheProf> somsip, Hello - I was able to determine the drive is working fine.  Are there other reasons I'd get that message "Gave up waiting for root device"?
[06:03] <CarlFK> noobuntu: changing the partition type will be ignored by all the things.
[06:05] <nuabi> nat
[06:08] <grahamsavage> for filesystems.. is ext4 the only reasonable choice for stability etc?
[06:11] <Laibsch> I'm trying to record the audio from a webinar. I am using gnome-sound-recorder to do that. The problem is that the sound from the microphone always gets mixed in, resulting in background noise.  What do I need to do (in precise, if that matters) to prevent this?
[06:12] <CarlFK> grahamsavage: heh... this is 2 years old, but kinda answers your question http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=22655883&sid=0f21c68879c68921142f1e7826a2a0fe#p22655883
[06:14] <CarlFK> noobuntu: if you are hoping to change ntfs to ext4 .. I would be very surprised if you can do that without backing, mkfs, restore.  "in place upgrade" is what you want, and all I can find is ext3 to 4, like mentioned in the link I just posted
[06:15] <grahamsavage> CarlFK: ah so now it's down to BTRFS and Ext4
[06:19] <jozefk> Why 12.10 is still supported?
[06:20] <Beldar> jozefk, why do you care?
[06:21] <Beldar> look up ubuntu release schedules
[06:22] <jozefk> Because I see in channel topic but in Ubuntu release schedule it says 9 months
[06:24] <Beldar> we are just short of 9 months since release
[06:24] <Beldar> April 2014
[06:26] <jozefk> It has been more than a year already
[06:28] <qin> jozefk, Beldar: interesting, cant find any docs about 9 and 18 months support.
[06:31] <zztr> I'm coming back to Ubuntu from Fedora and remembering the main thing that drove me mad. out of date packages. Is there a way for me to get apt-get to install the latest stable release of things like postgresql, mercurial, and clojure? Why are the installed versions years old?
[06:32] <Ububash> iptables: Why do they work so well on my Dell (12.04 LTS) and not my Mac (12.04 LTS)?
[06:32] <jozefk> :)
[06:32] <gordonjcp> zztr: have you installed the LTS version?
[06:32] <Ububash> y
[06:33] <zztr> gordonjcp: yes
[06:33] <gordonjcp> zztr: well, there you go
[06:33] <Ububash> ?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> that's *the whole bloody point* of LTS
[06:33] <gordonjcp> the versions *do not change* during the lifecycle of the release
[06:33] <zztr> gordonjcp: so lts doesn't maintain it's package repo?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> no
[06:33] <qin> zztr: did you know that Ubuntu do not roll?
[06:33] <zztr> wow
[06:33] <Ububash> Anybody good with iptables?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> zztr: the packages are always the absolute latest patched up to date versions *of the release versions*
[06:34] <SwedeMike> zztr: they bug fix, they don't upgrade. it's stable, not new features.
[06:34] <gordonjcp> zztr: although the packages are kept patched, the versions *do not change*
[06:34] <CarlFK> zztr: all the releases keep the feature sets stable.  to get new features, upgrade to a new release
[06:34] <gordonjcp> zztr: not like for example Arch, where you can expect it to break *something* once a week
[06:34] <nateman264> hello all
[06:36] <zztr> okay. well thanks for the explanation CarlFK gordonjcp and SwedeMike. Is there a repository I can add that will get me newer stuff?
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: the idea is that you don't have packages constantly changing major version numbers and breaking configs
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: you could try switching to 13.10, or looking for PPAs
[06:36] <gordonjcp> zztr: what are you trying to install?
[06:36] <nateman264> If there is anyone on that can answer my questions, would you answer please? I need to find out what ubuntu version I need to run on my 686 CPU computer...
[06:36] <CarlFK> zztr: I have had good luck using a PPAs for apps I care about, like vagrant and openshot
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: the instructions are right there on the download page
[06:37] <zztr> gordonjcp: 13.10 did not work with bluetooth on the ultrabook i need to have ubuntu on
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: you want a 32-bit version
[06:37] <nateman264> okay, thank you very much
[06:37] <gordonjcp> zztr: but older versions do?
[06:37] <zztr> CarlFK: so i have to get a different ppa for each piece of software?
[06:37] <zztr> gordonjcp: yes. odd i know, but true
[06:37] <gordonjcp> nateman264: depending on how old the machine is and what CPU it has, you might need a non-PAE system, so possibly mini.iso
[06:38] <CarlFK> zztr: for each that you want cutting edge
[06:38] <gordonjcp> zztr: have you filed a bug?
[06:38] <zztr> gordonjcp: no i'm trying to just get something working. not a lot of time on my hands
[06:39] <gordonjcp> zztr: if you don't file a bug, it'll never get fixed and when 12.04 goes away you'll be just as stuck
[06:39] <CarlFK> zztr: I completely don't care about the latest breakthroughs in pdf viewing ;)
[06:39] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 just install Lubuntu and your computer should be find
[06:39] <gordonjcp> zztr: tl;dr if you find a problem and don't file a bug, you're just whining and you should shut up
[06:39] <nateman264> hmm? it's a dell optiplex GX270
[06:40]  * zztr quits whining
[06:42] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 yeah install Lubuntu on that, its a Pentium 4 @ 2.8GHz right?
[06:42] <FuuqUmiist> Lubuntu is a lightweight version of Ubuntu
[06:42] <gordonjcp> it's also buggy as hell
[06:43] <FuuqUmiist> nateman264 or if you want more features install Linux Mint XFCE version
[06:44] <gordonjcp> !mint
[06:44] <SwedeMike> zzzgeoffb: you can check out backports, but I doubt it'll have those kinds of packages.
[06:44] <gordonjcp> LXDE is hilarious
[06:44] <FuuqUmiist> but it will be speedier on Lubuntu, you will have have to customize more on what software you want to run on it
[06:44] <heyHey> how do I install gnome on 12.04.4 ? apt-get install gnome?
[06:44] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: it might be if he's got a very fast machine with a lot of RAM
[06:45] <gordonjcp> my machine is pretty low-spec so I just stick to normal Unity
[06:45] <FuuqUmiist> Lubuntu will be much faster than Ubuntu with Unity
[06:45] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: only on a fast machine
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: my core 2 duo with 8GB can *just about* run LXDE but it crashes all the time
[06:46] <heyHey> gordonjcp: FuuqUmiist how do I install gnome on 12.04.4 ? apt-get install gnome?
[06:46] <gordonjcp> !gnome
[06:46] <FuuqUmiist> no, the min hardware requirements for Lubuntu are almost the same as Windows XP
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: what's Windows XP like?
[06:46] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: I find that LXDE runs out of memory and crashes all the time
[06:47] <heyHey> gordonjcp: I just did apt-get install gnome, am I breaking my machine, what should I do?
[06:47] <FuuqUmiist> gordonjcp the newer version should be better
[06:47] <gordonjcp> heyHey: did you follow the instructions on the factoid?
[06:47] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: to be honest I'm unlikely to try it again
[06:47] <heyHey> gordonjcp: i did install gnome before you told me
[06:47] <FuuqUmiist> !lubuntu
[06:47] <gordonjcp> heyHey: I don't use gnome and haven't for years
[06:48] <gordonjcp> FuuqUmiist: Unity works well enough and LXDE doesn't
[06:48] <onlty> how about XFCE
[06:48] <gordonjcp> it's okay if you've got nothing better
[06:48] <onlty> !xubuntu
[06:48] <heyHey> gordonjcp: should I cancel "apt-get install gnome"? let it finish? do i need to install gnome-shell after, or might it be contained within "install gnome"
[06:48] <gordonjcp> heyHey: no idea
[06:48] <gordonjcp> heyHey: it'll probably pull down much the same stuff
[06:49] <FuuqUmiist> if you use XFCE use Linux Mint, apparently Xubuntu uses more resources
[06:49] <gordonjcp> Mint doesn't have an IRC channel though
[06:49] <gordonjcp> well, not on Freenode
[06:50] <gordonjcp> I really can't see what's so good about Mint
[06:50] <pandy_> Русские есть!?
[06:50] <gordonjcp> !ru | pandy_
[06:50] <staticd> heyHey: gnome includes gnome shell afaict
[06:50] <pandy_>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[06:50] <FuuqUmiist> ... /server irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-help
[06:51] <FuuqUmiist> should work i think
[06:51] <heyHey> staticd: so I'm just installing extra shiz that I might not need, but am not breaking my machine?
[06:51] <heyHey> staticd: gordonjcp and how do I enable gnome and take off unity?
[06:52] <staticd> heyHey: in theory it should not break anything.
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: i see it download inkscape
[06:52] <heyHey> downloading*
[06:52] <nateman264> do I still get the 32-bit?
[06:52] <staticd> heyHey: I installed GS the same way
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: ok cool, how do I enable it
[06:52] <heyHey> gnome shell i.e.
[06:52] <heyHey> staticd: ^
[06:54] <staticd> heyHey: when you reboot, the lightdm login screen will have a little button near the username. clicking on it will allow you to log in to a unity or through GS for your session
[06:54] <TheProf> somsip, I solved it temporarily - I needed to select an earlier version of the boot up image in grub.  No idea why it worked.  But that's OK for now.
[06:55] <staticd> heyHey: if that works fine through a few log in log out / reboot cycles then you can think of uninstalling unity..
[06:55] <heyHey> staticd: cool thanks!
[06:55] <Lorith[Alpha]> anyone tried openkore? need help over here~
[06:56] <staticd> heyHey: but if you are not pressed for space.. let it lie.. you just log into your previous choice by default.. so pretend unity is not there.. spare you a lot of greif if the uninstall goes wrong
[06:57] <heyHey> staticd: proli ill do :) thanks!
[06:57] <heyHey> helpful hippo
[06:57] <staticd> sure.. g'luck
[06:58] <staticd> all: I wanted to know how to file a bug against the trusty iso so that the virtualbox drivers can be added to it..
[06:58] <staticd> anyone has any suggestions how?
[06:58] <staticd> clicking on the reportbug link on the launchpad page takes me the help page
[07:42] <chaos7theory> Is it possible to do IME input on the TTY without x-server?
[07:44] <jnhghy> I have squid on a ubuntu and I've set another ubuntu box to use the first one as proxy server (I've set it only for http and https -not for ftp or socks ports) but now I have an issue with thunderbird, it seems I can receive emails but I can't send, I've googled the issue and found that the iptables of the server might block smtp but at this point I'm kind of lost ... can anybody help?
[07:45] <helmut_> hi
[07:55] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[08:11] <billybig2> hey all, is anyone here familiar with python 2.7.3 and the futures module?
[08:11] <billybig2> im not a python guru at all and am stumped
[08:12] <billybig2> i've installed python-concurrent.futures but get an error when i try to run a script that has import futures
[08:13] <billybig2>   File "ircbot.py", line 5, in <module>
[08:13] <billybig2>     import futures
[08:13] <billybig2> ImportError: No module named futures
[08:13] <billybig2> do i have to reload anything python related after installing a module?
[08:17] <somsip> billybig2: try the #python channel
[08:22]  * Jurgen|Cloud sgopt TBloemink
[08:23] <nikolam> I reported bug about (ana)cron daily and other jobs,  using 'find' util that searches BTRFS subvolume snapshots , even those snapshots contain same data as filesystem itself.. If you like that not happening, please add something in the bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/anacron/+bug/1288106
[08:23] <Jurgen|Cloud> BOELboel
[08:27] <tripelb> aski.g agai. after. etsp
[08:27] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[08:29] <llutz> nikolam: check  PRUNEPATHS, PRUNEFS in /etc/updatedb.conf
[08:36] <tasslehoff> I have some applications installed in non-standard locations, and have symlinks to them in ~/bin. Where should I add this to PATH to make sure various launchers know of it? /etc/profile?
[08:38] <somsip> tasslehoff: ~/.bashrc normally
[08:41] <drugaddict> linux is for niggers
[08:45] <tasslehoff> somsip: but then e.g. the "Run Application" in gnome does not know the path?
[08:46] <somsip> tasslehoff: I have no idea how gnome works in that respect, so I can't help further
[08:47] <llutz> tasslehoff: aren't those launchers using *.desktop files in */share/apllications and not stuff from $PATH?
[08:48] <Caelum> I'm following an arch guide and it says to make a file in /etc/tmpfiles.d/ but there is no such directory on ubuntu, what is the equivalent?
[08:48] <llutz> Caelum: to do what?
[08:48] <somsip> Caelum: what's the link for the guide?
[08:49] <Caelum> llutz: this part here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_C720_Chromebook#Fixing_suspend
[08:50] <tasslehoff> llutz: yeah. it actually looks like it has picked up my applications, and that the problem is something else.
[08:50] <tasslehoff> llutz: the apps are installed to /opt, and have created the proper *.desktop files
[08:51] <somsip> Caelum: I'd suggest you find a guide for ubuntu. There may be more in that guide that is Arch specific looking at it briefly
[08:53] <llutz> Caelum: look at /etc/pm/ if you need to run scripts on sleep/resume
[08:53] <Caelum> llutz: yeah I got that part, but what is this weird conf files for tmpfiles.d, maybe I don't need it
[08:54] <Caelum> ah looks like a systemd thing
[08:54] <llutz> Caelum: arch uses systemd and other mechanisms to sleep/resume, that has nothing in common with *buntu. i'd guess that guide is senseless for you
[08:55] <Caelum> llutz: no there's lots of other useful stuff in there
[08:55] <llutz> Caelum: if you need that unbind/bind part for ehci, look at /etc/pm/sleep/*
[08:56] <Caelum> ok thank you
[08:57] <llutz> Caelum: arch wiki always has nice ideas, unfortunately you have to rethink them if you want to use them in other distros. you cannot use them 1:1
[08:57] <Caelum> right
[09:02] <g0ne> anyone got any decent xterm defaults they can share? looking for a dark bg and small font
[09:03] <Voyage> using kubuntu,  I cant speak by my microphone pluged in. but the built in micro phone of my laptop works. I have toogled the audio settings but no use. any one has a clue?  I used  pavucontrol but  cant work with any drop down option in pavucontrol...  any other way to see if my audio can work?
[09:03] <iptable> g0ne, use putty emulator ;)
[09:04] <iptable> Voyage, is the external mic a mini-jack or an USB?
[09:06] <Voyage> iptable,  external mic
[09:06] <Voyage> its like a long thing thing plugged into the mic port
[09:07] <iptable> Voyage, I do understand it's external. Question is, is it a USB external, or mini-jack? I.e. rectangle plugin or a small round one?
[09:07] <Voyage> its not usb for sure
[09:08] <iptable> Voyage, in that case, when you plug it in, your motherboard automatically switches sound from built-in microphone to external microphone. There is no sftware control for it
[09:08] <Voyage> ya, the internal mic works ok. but when I plug the external, it doesnot works.
[09:08] <iptable> Voyage, it means, as soon as the mic is plugged in, it should be working instead of the internal one. The software doesn't know if anything is plugged in or not. It's hardware controlled.
[09:08] <Voyage> what can be the reason
[09:09] <iptable> Voyage, 1. faulty microphone, or 2. faulty/loose connection on your computer
[09:09] <Voyage> no, its not hardware issue
[09:09] <iptable> Voyage, test with another external microphone to find out which one is at fault. Alternatively get a USB microphone. These work very well and you can switch to them using pavucontrol at your heart's content.
[09:09] <Voyage> as I have a wired problem in windows 7. there, the mic works, but headphones dont. its really strange
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  I have dont testing another mic.
[09:10] <Voyage> same for all
[09:10] <iptable> Voyage, it IS hardware issue. Software, as stated, has got nothing to do with it.
[09:10] <iptable> Voyage, hardware automatically switches inputs. Tried wiggling it a bit while recordign sound?
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  if it was hardware issue. the external mic should not have worked in windows 7
[09:10] <majod> iptable: that nick is really confusing :)
[09:10] <Voyage> iptable,  tried wigling. yes.
[09:11] <iptable> majod, just 1 table, I'm not greedy. When my nick was iptables, I got pinged whenever someone mentioned them.
[09:11] <Voyage> iptable,  if it was hardware issue. the external mic should not have worked in windows 7  . < do I have a point?
[09:11] <iptable> Voyage, how many sound cards does pavucontrol see?
[09:11] <Voyage> let me see
[09:11] <iptable> Voyage, not necessarily. are you sure you plugged it in to mic control and not accidentally to sound OUT?
[09:12] <Voyage> I used sound input
[09:12] <gfhhhj> yes
[09:12] <gfhhhj> ?
[09:12] <Voyage> I can see  microphone, internal microphone, line in.       none worked
[09:12] <Voyage> iptable,  ^
[09:13] <iptable> Voyage, uhm, what actual inputs/outputs do you have on your motherboard?
[09:13] <gfhhhj> what the
[09:13] <gfhhhj> command for update
[09:14] <Voyage> iptable,  output is one headphone port. input is one mic port
[09:14] <iptable> Voyage, only 2 ports?
[09:14] <Voyage> iptable,  yes
[09:14] <iptable> Voyage, and does pavucontrol otherwise change sound settings for you (like volume)?
[09:15] <Voyage> yes
[09:15] <Voyage> it does
[09:15] <g0ne> how do i list all muh fonts
[09:15] <Caelum> xlsfonts
[09:15] <iptable> Voyage, so mic goes into input and you set it as "Microphone".
[09:15] <g0ne> can i preview them?
[09:15] <Voyage> iptable,  affirmative
[09:16] <Caelum> xfontsel
[09:16] <Caelum> but there are better progs
[09:16] <Caelum> g0ne: try terminator
[09:16] <iptable> Voyage, so, in pavucontrol, you go to the "input devices" tab and make sure the "port" is set to microphone. check all ports for the sake of it.
[09:16] <Caelum> g0ne: konsole is also nice
[09:17] <iptable> Voyage, also, once selected each port, change volume a bit to make sure it volumizes it before testing.
[09:20] <iptable> Voyage, also in "Configuration" tab, make sure your audio is set as "analogue stereo duplex"
[09:20] <Voyage> iptable,  the mic switches when i plug in the external. switches means from internal to external but the volumn dont change while i speak in the external one\
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, I know. but sometimes the volume control might not be reading it right after plugin. can you just try?
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, and also click on "fallback" button in "input devices" section. Are you sure you chosen "duplex" as I told you?
[09:21] <iptable> Voyage, and one last thing, if you unplug both the speakers and the microphone and then plug only microphone in, does it work then?
[09:22] <iptable> Voyage, and it one thing doesn't work in windows, while another in ubuntu, and both of the same sound card, it looks like some screwed up hardware, and that would be hardware issue, with sofwtare not being able to find out how the hell it's meant to work...
[09:23] <ktosiek> Hi! Is anyone here using the Ubuntu-provided redmine?
[09:23] <ktosiek> How can I add custom plugins to it? Do I have to package them?
[09:23] <Voyage> iptable,  nice point. let me check
[09:25] <ompal> anyone using reviewboard
[09:26] <Caelum> my pref programs seem to be doubled in cinnamon
[09:26] <Voyage> iptable,  didnt worked
[09:26] <tripelb> 12.04 the panel marker for networking vanished. (and it still hangs in downloading adobe flash)
[09:26] <iptable> Voyage, I would still blame the hardware. Looks like it's got some control modes messed up. you could maybe get it to work if you try enough times... try changing from "duplex" to "input" in configuration tab and playing with that. at some point you will get mic to work, but no sound then :D
[09:27] <Caelum> ah there we go, I had gnome-control-center installed
[09:27] <iptable> Caelum, haha, had same issue. Using Cinnamon on 14.04 here
[09:28] <Voyage> iptable,  hm
[09:28] <maxiaojun> why unity cannot be used for xrdp?
[09:28] <Voyage> iptable,  thanks
[09:29] <iptable> Voyage, no problem. I would complain to HW vendor if you can and get antoher machine (if it's new).
[09:29] <Voyage> iptable,  i see when external mic is selected. the volumn goes up and down. but not according to my voice. and I dont hear anything in the recording. else than distortion
[09:29] <iptable> Voyage, it could be that the solders are loose on the ports, causing a short circuit and you can only get one to work.
[09:30] <iptable> Voyage, that would be the short circuit I just said about. looks like a goner
[09:30] <Voyage> iptable,  strange that linux and windows make work the opposit
[09:30] <Voyage> the mic works in windows 7 but not the hadphone
[09:30] <Voyage> headphone
[09:30] <iptable> Voyage, they use different settings. you could get linux to be working as windows is, but by default it's the other way
[09:31] <Voyage> hm
[09:31] <iptable> Voyage, for £5 / $8 you can pickup a USB sound card that does wonders, including mic and output.
[09:31] <kdworak> Hi Guys, I have a problem with the `df -h|grep /dev/map|awk {'print $3'}' command, im getting the out put but with an error like so: -bash: 2.0G: command not found
[09:31] <Voyage> iptable,  oh
[09:31] <iptable> Voyage, that's what I had to do on my old laptop. Altohugh nowadays I just use USB mic and USB headsets. easier.
[09:31] <Voyage> iptable,  so the USB soundcard would be needing no drivers and will be wonderful/ working even the motherboard jacks are shot circuted
[09:31] <Voyage> ?
[09:32] <maxiaojun> why unity cannot be used for xrdp?
[09:32] <iptable> kdworak: wrong ''
[09:32] <iptable> kdworak: df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'
[09:32] <iptable> Voyage, yes
[09:32] <cfhowlett_> !cn|maxiaojun,
[09:33] <cisco> doy
[09:33] <Voyage> iptable,  thanks
[09:33] <iptable> Voyage, basically, in ubuntu you just switch sound card to the USB one and it ignores the built-in sound card. problem solved.
[09:33] <uk> doy
[09:33] <maxiaojun> cfhowlett_: wtf?
[09:33] <iptable> Voyage, by jjust clicking "Fallback" next to the USB sound card. It is as simple as that.
[09:33] <kdworak> iptable: Still the same output
[09:33] <yanaz> I have a problem with left bar - it is showing no icons. Im total ubuntu/linux noob
[09:33] <cfhowlett_> maxiaojun, my mistake.  nvrmnd
[09:34] <iptable> kdworak, nope, this command works for me. df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'
[09:34] <j2k> helo.............
[09:34] <iptable> kdworak, I have a feeling you are not giving me the whole command, jus a snippet
[09:34] <Guest35524> peru mattada koppe
[09:35] <j2k> patila kuthare.............
[09:35] <kdworak> iptable: No iptable the rest of the story as they say is that im asking a question that has nothing to do with ubuntu, im practicing bash scripting on centOS virtual machines
[09:35] <sreekanth> nadesaa
[09:35] <sreekanth> kollanda
[09:35] <iptable> kdworak, that doesn't matter. it would still work.
[09:36] <iptable> kdworak, have you tried copy-pasting what I have just given you into command prompt and just running it.
[09:36] <j2k> njan ivide ver chilath nokuva.............
[09:36] <iptable> kdworak, or are you putting the command in ``? looks like you are doing something dodgy around the command itself. the command works.
[09:36] <kdworak> iptable: yes command is inside ``
[09:37] <cisco_> yuty
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, that's your problem
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, as I said, the command works. why on earth are you putting it in ``?
[09:37] <kdworak> iptable: i thought u had to use those for multiple commands
[09:37] <kdworak> iptable: noobness
[09:37] <iptable> kdworak, no. you use ``, if you want to execute that first and then execcute the OUTPUT of it
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: ahh that makes sense
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, so you were ending up executing your command and then trying to execute the output of it (which was 2.0G, and that command doesn't exist)
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: let me try and get back to u
[09:38] <kdworak> iptable: makes sense!
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, you would only use `` to save result to variable. e.g. SIZE=`command`
[09:38] <kdworak> right i was making a variable for a script
[09:38] <iptable> kdworak, although, in current time you are supposed to use this instead: SIZE=$(command)
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: oh thats different
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, SIZE=$(df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'); echo ${SIZE}
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: inside ()?
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, inside $()
[09:39] <kdworak> iptable: awesome
[09:39] <iptable> kdworak, instead of ``. welcome to the 21st century
[09:40] <kdworak> iptable: lol yup you were right
[09:40] <iptable> kdworak, I know :P
[09:40] <kdworak> iptable: haha, thank you so much man!
[09:41] <kdworak> im gonna stick around ill have more questions
[09:41] <iptable> kdworak, cool. just ping me when you need to.
[09:41] <kdworak> iptable: does it ping when i use ur name?
[09:42] <iptable> kdworak, yes it does
[09:46] <kdworak> ?
[09:46] <cm13g09> Morning all, trying to preseed a RAID1 installation and failing....
[09:47] <cm13g09> My Preseed is at http://pastebin.com/a21yyqj8
[09:48] <kdworak> iptable: can you give me that example again?  the one with the updated way to make that variable
[09:49] <iptable> kdworak, SIZE=$(df -h|grep /dev/map|awk '{print $3}'); echo ${SIZE}
[09:50] <kdworak> iptable: ahh ok i see where i have it wrong
[09:54] <llutz>  awk doesn't need grep, awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}'
[09:55] <Walex2> iptable: kdworak: more directly: stat -f -c %f ...
[09:55] <iptable> Walex2, spoiling the fun for someone learning to script? :P
[09:56] <Walex2> iptable: :-)
[09:57] <kdworak> llutz: nice short cut, but i gotta learn how to walk before i can run
[09:57] <jatt> is there already an update for gnutls on 12.04?
[09:58] <kdworak> llutz: although it would really impress my teacher
[09:58] <kdworak> llutz: so i can pipe df -h directly to awk?
[09:59] <llutz> kdworak: df -h|awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}'
[09:59] <kdworak> llutz: the \ is needed?
[10:00] <llutz> kdworak: yes to escape the /
[10:00] <kdworak> k
[10:00] <uewdl> hello?
[10:01] <llutz> kdworak: imho it hasn't to do with "running", just learn from beginning the possibilities of some tools and avoid using more code than needed
[10:02] <kdworak> llutz: yeah thats what ive been told, if you dont need an else statement even for practice, dont code it in
[10:03] <kdworak> llutz: hey can u display that example for me again
[10:03] <llutz> kdworak: SIZE=$(df -h|awk '/dev\/map/ {print $3}')
[10:04] <kdworak> llutz: thank u
[10:05] <kdworak> llutz: its giving me a an error
[10:05] <kdworak> llutz: /dev\/map
[10:06] <kdworak> unterminated regexp
[10:06] <llutz> kdworak:  /dev\/map/     missing trailing slash?
[10:06] <kdworak> llutz: hahaha YES
[10:07] <neuromute9> hey folks, when I add a samba share using nautilus, where is the configuration stored? It isn't in the /etc/samba/smb.cnf file
[10:07] <kdworak> llutz: but why does it have to be there, the line starts with /dev/mapper not /dev/map/ ?
[10:08] <llutz> kdworak: it matches map
[10:08] <llutz>  kdworak the two slashes are just borders for the awk search-pattern
[10:09] <fabrizio__> CIAO AMICI
[10:09] <fabrizio__> HELLO
[10:10] <fabrizio__> Where are you form?
[10:10] <llutz> kdworak: tells awk: "search for the pattern between this two slashes"   thats why you have to escate slashes \/ if you want to search for them
[10:10] <fabrizio__> Hi man
[10:10] <llutz> escape
[10:12] <andreiccg> who can give some help with sql ?
[10:12] <kdworak> llutz: so how come we dont have to escate the first / like so: df -h|awk '\/dev\/map/ {print $3}' ?
[10:12] <fabrizio__> No sql sorry
[10:12] <andreiccg> k,thanks
[10:12] <llutz> kdworak: the first slash isn't part of /dev/map   its just the "pattern starts here" slash for awk, confusing, but...
[10:13] <llutz> kdworak: so basically you search for dev/map   not /dev/map
[10:13] <kdworak> llutz: i think i kind of get it
[10:14] <Caelum> this thing crashes when I try to hibernate
[10:14] <Caelum> blech
[10:14] <kdworak> llutz: so technically if i wanted to search for /dev/map could i do what i stated?  '\/dev\/map/ ?
[10:14] <llutz> kdworak: /\/dev\/map/ . unfortunately awk cannot (?) use different chars for that, only slashes. unlike sed
[10:15] <kdworak> llutz: oh wow /\/dev/map/  ?  that makes sense now
[10:15] <g0ne> do you guys know what mp3 player this is? http://a.pomf.se/uwaqmt.png
[10:16] <llutz> kdworak: /\/dev\/map/
[10:16] <llutz> kdworak: 1st and last char has to be unescaped slash. all slashes within have to be escaped
[10:16] <Caelum> oh it didn't crash
[10:16] <kdworak> llutz: ok got it
[10:17] <Caelum> man it's so annoying switching between systems with different hotkeys for everything
[10:17] <llutz> kdworak: there is #awk on freenode, they are much better in explaining this than i am
[10:17] <Caelum> mac, windows, linux
[10:19] <kdworak> llutz: you are explaining it very well, plus i have a simple script i have been tasked with, show how much disk usage is being used, what file is using the most, what pid is using the most amount of cpu, and are the LAMP stack services running
[10:20] <kdworak> llutz: you got me covered so far, i will stick around im sure ill have more questions
[10:21] <kdworak> llutz: i need help but at the same time i dont want the anwser handed to me
[10:21] <okkangal> is there anyone from turkey
[10:22] <cfhowlett> !turkey
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: im sure my next questions will be about the
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: about the du command
[10:22] <kdworak> llutz: next task is to display the file using the most disk space
[10:24] <onlty> !korea
[10:25] <llutz> kdworak: tons of ways, good luck :)
[10:26]  * cm13g09 is having "fun" with an HP ML320e G8 v2
[10:27] <pandario1> ubuntu is for noobs
[10:27] <iptable> pandario1, like you? try ##troll
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !fud|pandario1,
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|pandario1,
[10:28] <pandario1> iptable, nobody is  in there!
[10:28] <iptable> lol. that's the point of the channel. you are free to troll there as much as you want
[10:28] <llutz> don't feed the troll
[10:29] <iptable> sorry
[10:29] <pandario1> ubuntu is not as popular anymore!
[10:29] <ikonia> pandario1: only warning - stop it
[10:29] <ikonia> pandario1: this is a support channel, please use it for support only
[10:31] <iptable> kdworak, while read fn; do SIZE=$(stat -c %s ${fn}); echo "${SIZE} ${fn}"; done < <(find /dev/map -type f) |sort -n |tail -1
[10:32] <iptable> kdworak, will find the biggest file in /dev/map
[10:33] <llutz> iptable: "find /dev/map -type f" <- unlikely
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, well, if he got files in there, then yes. The rquest clearly said "display the file using most disk space"
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, if he wants block devices or other special just modify the type in find command to whatever.
[10:34] <iptable> llutz, it's a script to build on for whatever purpose.
[10:34] <solarizedsky_> hi
[10:34] <kdworak> iptable: thanks ma
[10:35] <andreiccg> who can help to join with sql channel ?
[10:35] <ikonia> andreiccg: the guys in #freenode can
[10:35] <JustMozzy> hi guys. I am having some trouble with samba and performance. anyone knows ways to improve read/write times?
[10:36] <andreiccg> k thanks
[10:36] <llutz> iptable: gnu-find cannot act on (virtual) blockdevices
[10:36] <g0ne> do you guys know what mp3 player this is? http://a.pomf.se/uwaqmt.png
[10:36] <iptable> llutz, really? It works here on all /dev/ files...
[10:38] <kdworak> llutz: no wonder im getting nothing from find....
[10:38] <kdworak> iptable: can u display that example again please?
[10:38] <DJones> g0ne: It looks like mdp listed on here http://askubuntu.com/questions/44443/command-line-audio-players
[10:39] <g0ne> DJones: thx
[10:39] <llutz> iptable: "find --version"
[10:39] <geirha> a bit uncommon to have regular files in /dev I think
[10:39] <iptable> llutz, GNU findutils (find) 4.4.2
[10:40] <llutz> iptable: same here, still no way
[10:40] <kdworak> geirha: its just an example
[10:40] <iptable> geirha, that's not the point. one can change -type f to -type c, etc. but apparently, that won't work in /dev according to some
[10:40] <iptable> llutz, it works here
[10:40] <geirha> that would make more sense, yes
[10:40] <iptable> llutz, I can't help it. Would you like me to break it so that it's consistent with what you are seeing
[10:42] <geirha> I'm unfamiliar with /dev/map  what is that really?
[10:43] <llutz> iptable: sry i meant, still no way _here_
[10:44] <iptable> llutz, oh. ok. for some reason works perfect here
[10:44] <llutz> iptable:just to make clear: you can use like "find /dev/sdXY -type xxx " with success? odd
[10:45] <geirha> with -type b you should get one result at least :)
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, no, I can't. That will obviously fail
[10:46] <llutz> geirha: sure, but only that and never any other content
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, but that wasn't what the user wanted.
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, you are overinventing it
[10:46] <kdworak> iptable: can u post that example u gave me again please?
[10:46] <iptable> llutz, that's all the user wanted
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, don't you have like ... chat history and scroll-up?
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, while read fn; do SIZE=$(stat -c %s ${fn}); echo "${SIZE} ${fn}"; done < <(find /dev/map -type f) |sort -n |tail -1
[10:47] <kdworak> iptable: im running irssi so no.. or i dont know how
[10:47] <iptable> kdworak, you will need to adjust 1. /dev/map to chosen directory and 2. -type f to chosen type. f is file,  etc. man find to see all types.
[10:47] <geirha> I've never seen /dev/map/, what is it used for?
[10:47] <llutz> kdworak: pgup
[10:47] <kdworak> iptable: i apologize
[10:48] <kdworak> llutz: there it is
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, uhm, either learn irssi (and yes, it has got chat history), or use something more suited for GUI users I would say
[10:48] <kdworak> iptable: just learned how to scroll
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, cool
[10:48] <kdworak> iptable: no more repeats
[10:48] <iptable> kdworak, cool
[10:48] <iptable> :P
[10:49] <g0ne> how can i tell what resolution im at
[10:49] <llutz> g0ne:  xrandr
[10:50] <llutz> or xdpyinfo |grep dimen
[11:14] <jamie792> can someone suggest an irc client that "notifies" (like notify-send from libnotify-bin) when you get a mention on a channel?  smuxi does this but has a huge memory footprint and crashes every couple of days
[11:15] <Kelly> good morning can someone assist me? I am new to ubuntu........I could watch videos on you tube with 11 but when i upgraded to ubuntu I am no longer able to watch videos....i installed VLC but that didnt seem to help me.
[11:15] <hillary> my screen keeps freezing while using libre writer ubuntu 12.04
[11:16] <xeni> Kelly: have you tried switching your youtube to HTML5 video
[11:16] <Kelly> xeni...i didnt see that option on youtube..but i will look again
[11:16] <xeni> Kelly: in my knowledge, otherwise you need shockwave flash installed to watch youtube
[11:17] <xeni> Kelly: Which web browser did you try youtube with?
[11:17] <Kelly> firefox
[11:18] <Kelly> really bummed out...it was working fine in ubuntu 11
[11:18] <xeni> Kelly: didn't it say anything about missing plugins or something like that
[11:18] <Kelly> not this time...but going to go there and look again
[11:19] <xeni> Kelly: Okay, please report back when you have done that
[11:19] <Kelly> :)  checking now...thank yu
[11:19] <geirha> Kelly: It could be config from older firefox messing up your current firefox; to test this theory, switch to a guest user and see if you can watch youtube from there.
[11:20] <Kelly> ok
[11:20] <geirha> *the guest user
[11:21] <hillary> Is this sreen freezing normal for ubuntu 12.04 libre writer while copy pasting?
[11:21] <mr_64br13l> hillary: Nope.
[11:22] <Goutham> Hello o/
[11:22] <hillary>  mr_64br13l: what could i be missing then
[11:22] <Goutham> I need a small help in ubuntu 13.10
[11:23] <Goutham> Anyone ?
[11:23] <DJones> Goutham: You need to ask your question before people will know whether they're able to help
[11:23] <Kelly> not being given any option at youtube for html5   ...the area where video screen is ..is white..it flashes black like it wants to play but goes back to white.....btw...where do you determine what version of ubuntu you have running....from software center it says my pc is up to date
[11:23] <Goutham> Ok
[11:24] <DJones> Goutham: Just ask it in the channel and hopefully somebody will be able to help
[11:24] <bazhang> !version | Kelly
[11:24] <Goutham> Its not a problem in ubuntu, just need a help. I am using Windows 8 and Ubuntu 13.10. Windows 8 is now corrupted and I need to access some files in its partition thru Ubuntu to recover it.
[11:25] <DhammaMan> what have you tried yet Gou?
[11:25] <Goutham> While Mounting it shows the hibernation or fast resume
[11:25] <Goutham> error
[11:25] <DhammaMan> oooh
[11:26] <DhammaMan> hmm
[11:26] <Goutham> Though they are not enabled
[11:26] <Goutham> Since i have accessed them many times
[11:26] <mr_64br13l> hillary: I think some sort of unsolved bug.
[11:26] <DhammaMan> Yeah I've never heard of that
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Goutham, you may be jammed.  if windows exited while it was hibernated/suspended, ubuntu is not going to override that
[11:26] <Goutham> So is there someway to force mount or something so that I can recover some files
[11:27] <DhammaMan> Isn't there a closed bit when hybernating?
[11:27] <DhammaMan> closing
[11:27] <Goutham> I cant access windows 8 anymore as its corrupted
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Goutham, only way i've seen is to reboot windows and exit properly ...
[11:27] <Goutham> stuck in windows 8 logo
[11:27] <grahamsavage> trying to create an ext4 partition using disk util and i get this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/726472b46fa1c339dc4c
[11:27] <DhammaMan> f9 after post then safemode
[11:27] <cfhowlett> Goutham, immediately after ubuntu installation?
[11:27] <grahamsavage> any idea what i'm doing wrong?
[11:27] <Goutham> Windows 8 ISO file is in the Windows 8 parition
[11:29] <Goutham> cfhowlett, I am using Ubuntu and Windows 8 alongside for months with accessing Win8 parition thru mount.
[11:29] <Goutham> But since WIndows 8 is corrupted and the Wind8 ISO file is in the WIndows 8 partition.
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Goutham, ah, so not actually booting win8?
[11:29] <Goutham> I just need to reinstall windows 8 since some software installtion corrupted it
[11:30] <DhammaMan> Norton
[11:30] <DhammaMan> lol
[11:30] <Goutham> And the windows 8 installation iso files is stuck in the Win8 partition
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  how is that ubuntu related?
[11:30] <Goutham> And i thought i can recover it thru Ubuntu but I cant mount
[11:30] <DhammaMan> sudo nautilus
[11:30] <DhammaMan> right no
[11:30] <DhammaMan> mount
[11:31] <xeni> so yet another Kelly gets his youtube working and there is no thank yous or anything
[11:31] <Goutham> MonkeyDust, I used to access windows 8 partition thru mount and i am thinking of doing it to take the Windows 8 iso file to repair it but mounting it now shows hibernation error ;(
[11:31] <DhammaMan> exact error:
[11:31] <DhammaMan> ?
[11:31] <Goutham> So is there some command to force mount
[11:31] <Goutham> Error mounting /dev/sda3 at /media/goutham/Goutham: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda3" "/media/goutham/Goutham"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
[11:31] <Goutham> Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
[11:31] <Goutham> Failed to mount '/dev/sda3': Operation not permitted
[11:31] <Goutham> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[11:31] <Goutham> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[11:31] <DhammaMan> well mount -f /dev/sdx
[11:31] <Goutham> read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> Goutham  and use !paste for multi-line messages
[11:33] <DhammaMan> y
[11:33] <DhammaMan> sudo mount /dev/sda (to whatever mount point
[11:33] <Kelly> ugg....signed in as a guest...same issue...my firefox says version 27.0.01
[11:33] <DhammaMan> use option -f
[11:34] <DhammaMan> sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 mountpoint/
[11:34] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: What issue?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  what's your issue?
[11:34] <Kelly> youtube not letting me play videos
[11:34] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Do you have flash?
[11:34] <Kelly> not sure...how do i install it?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:34] <DhammaMan> So who here knows iptables?
[11:35] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Use google chrome, it comes pre installed with adobe flash.
[11:35] <Goutham> Nope still shows the error ;(
[11:35] <DhammaMan> rats
[11:35] <DhammaMan> sry
[11:35] <bazhang> DhammaMan, try #netfilter
[11:35] <Kelly> firefox was working with older unsupported version of ubuntu
[11:35] <DhammaMan> ty bazhang
[11:36] <mr_64br13l> Kelly: Its not a firefox problem, the pronlem is lack of flash.
[11:36] <Kablam> hi
[11:37] <DhammaMan> Nobody awake in #netfilter
[11:37] <parapan> dear folks can someone please explain how come my CPU supports PAE instructions, I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS v3 2 weeks ago / I manually installed pae kernel ......but still my system doesn't see the 4 GB of RAM ???
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> DhammaMan  you have waited only a few seconds
[11:38] <Kablam> i have a q question i used dd to clone my xbmc server startupdisk (/dev/sdf /dev/sda) but wheni boot from the clone it wont autostart xbmc anymore so i guess its not a exact clone...any ideas what to do?
[11:39] <DhammaMan> parapan; I saw you, I just don't know.
[11:39] <Kelly> ok wll sign out as a guest and try resisteicted extras installl
[11:39] <DhammaMan> night all
[11:39] <DhammaMan> exit
[11:39] <DhammaMan> whoops
[11:39] <DhammaMan> heh
[11:42] <Goutham> Used sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 mnt/
[11:43] <Goutham> But i cant find the mounted partition in mnt folder
[11:43] <Kablam> try /mnt
[11:44] <pranav> i cannot find my wireless network created by netgear router when i do >scan in wpa_cli
[11:45] <hillary> when copying content with graphics it takes time to finish in libre office writer 20.04. and the screen keeps freezing. what could be really the problem here?
[11:45] <kingplusplus> Please i have an Ubuntu server running, connect via ssh, how can i login to the server and run a commandline program which takes hours to finish processing its task? But also, i want to close the terminal from my system and be able to login later to see the progress of the program running
[11:45] <Goutham> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda2 is already mounted on /mnt
[11:45] <Goutham> Kablam, ^
[11:45] <Goutham> But there is nothing in mnt
[11:45] <DJones> !screen | kingplusplus
[11:45] <llutz> kingplusplus: use screen
[11:47] <DJones> kingplusplus: Basically, SSH into the server, start screen, then run your command inside screen, you can then close the ssh session, come back later, ssh back in, connect to the screen session and your command will still be running
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> <3 screen
[11:47] <awakening> cant bind buttons via xwacomset on my tablet, anyone had the same problem?
[11:47] <Kablam> goutham do "cd /media" then "mkdir harddrive" then " sudo mount -f /dev/sda1 /media/harddrive"
[11:48] <Kablam> then it should be in /media/harddrive
[11:49] <awakening> it supposed to echo the command i bound, but i'm getting nothing
[11:49] <Kablam> oo and set corect permission for that harddrive folder
[11:50] <awakening> oh you gotta be kidding me, now its working >_>
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> awakening  that's how good this channel is
[11:50] <awakening> yeah =)
[11:51] <Laibsch> I'm trying to record the audio from a webinar. I am using gnome-sound-recorder to do that. The problem is that the sound from the microphone always gets mixed in, resulting in background noise.  What do I need to do (in precise, if that matters) to prevent this?
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> Laibsch  in a terminal, type alsamixer, disable mic boost
[11:56] <makije> kingplusplus, you can use something like screen, for example, "screen -R <jobname> <command>" then detach it with CTRL+A+D and reattach using "screen -R <jobname>"
[11:56] <makije> kingplusplus, sorry, dont add the <command>... use like "screen -R <jobname>" then when screen opens type your command..
[11:56] <wsnipex> kingplusplus, nohup
[11:56] <wsnipex> or screen
[11:56] <DJones> makije: You'll have to repost that message, they were part of the netsplit
[11:57] <makije> DJones, I will, will wait a little more time until it settles..
[11:58] <DJones> makije: Yeah, don't blame you, certainly splitsville at the minute
[11:58] <makije> DJones, I know, for sure it is
[11:58] <kingplusplus> wsnipex, thanks would look into it
[12:00] <makije> kingplusplus, It seems you found a solution elsewhere during the netslit but you can use screen use it like "screen -R <jobname>" then when screen opens type your command.. Detach using CTRL+A+D, reattach with "screen -R <jobname>"
[12:00] <Kelly> ugg very frustrated ...i did the sudo apt  get install ubuntu restricted extras.....everything installed ok....still not able to watch youtube videos...is there a way to install flash directly?
[12:01] <kingplusplus> makije thats wonderful command problem solved
[12:01] <makije> kingplusplus, thats great :)
[12:02] <Kelly> at youtube i dont see the option for html5  is it hidden somewhere?
[12:02] <hateball> Kelly: Browse to https://www.youtube.com/html5 and enable it
[12:02] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: I told you to install Google chrome, that will solve all your problems.
[12:03] <Kelly> i dont want to use chrome.... been down that road  already
[12:03] <jack> mr_64br13l1: confirmed. best browser.
[12:04] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Thats the only way to be on the latest version of flash.
[12:05] <DJones> Kelly: You could try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[12:05] <basketball> hwy
[12:05] <basketball> !gnpme
[12:06] <Kelly> i will try that..i dont understand why the old version of ubuntu worked fine...then the upgraded version gives you headaches?
[12:07] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Get a head massage. (;
[12:08] <cm13g09> Bah, just hit this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/477167
[12:08] <Kelly> at terminal it says my flash is already the newest version
[12:09] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Adobe ahs quit support for flash, so its not the latest.
[12:09] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the moutning even for nfs filesystems until statd is ru. What can i do?
[12:09] <Kelly> so chrome is the only sollution?
[12:09] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Yep.
[12:10] <Kelly> sudo apt-get google-chrome-install?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  or chromium-browser
[12:10] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the mounting even for nfs filesystems until statd is running, can someone help me my server isnt booting atm and i need it up asap.
[12:10] <DJones> Kelly: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[12:10] <Kelly> ty
[12:11] <llutz> "already the newest version" is an apt message and means "newest version available in repos", not newest version on earth
[12:11] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[12:11] <jack> real pkgname is google-chrome-stable
[12:12] <jack> if you download from google
[12:12] <rumer> hi
[12:12] <justaguy> Those repo's of ubutnu
[12:12] <justaguy> *ubuntu
[12:12] <justaguy> hmm, weird, the belgium repo's of ubuntuu are SLOWER then the netherlannds repo's
[12:12] <Guest1234567> I am getting the following error at boot: stopping block the mounting even for nfs filesystems until statd is running, can someone help me my server isnt booting atm and i need it up asap.
[12:12] <Kelly> if this does not work i think i may just install the old unsupported version of ubuntu again
[12:13] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: Google Chrome will end your headache for once and for all.
[12:13] <jack> justaguy, no surprise... .nl->.be is multiple gigabits
[12:13] <justaguy> yep
[12:14] <justaguy> i get 1MB to NL repo's, only 182KB/s to belgium repo's
[12:14] <jack> their .be server might be slammed atm
[12:15] <justaguy> jack: nah, belgium has very slow and retarded ISP's
[12:15] <jack> ok, that too
[12:15] <justaguy> stuff like datalimits and blocking portforwarding on ports below 1024
[12:16] <mr_64br13l1> justaguy: Thats the best thing business wise.
[12:16] <justaguy> mr_64br13l1: yep, there are 2 main big isp's , belgacom and telenet, i'm with telenet and they are stupid with datalimits and portforwarding blocks, but belgacom isn't
[12:17] <justaguy> but belgacom is crap quality in my city, so i'm just forced to use telenet :s
[12:17] <justaguy> and only have 150GB/month :d
[12:17] <mr_64br13l1> Too less.
[12:18] <ChrisH> I need to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to the pre-release of Ubuntu 14.04LTS, anyone a link a hand on release notes, howto?  And do-release-upgrade will offer the prelease of 14.04LTS?
[12:20] <Kelly> sad day when mozzila removed from my system
[12:20] <cm13g09> ChrisH: I suspect so - but I'd need to check command line options
[12:24] <Kelly> what a bunch of poo.....chrome loaded and installed but will not start  wth
[12:26] <Kelly> what is the new version of Debian using as a defalt browser to watch videos on the internet such as youtube?
[12:27] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: epiphany
[12:28] <Kelly> and it works right out of the box per se? with fresh install of debian?
[12:28] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: It works but it is useless for both of us because we use youtube.
[12:29] <rommel> Kelly, dont you have to install adobe for that to work
[12:29] <linuxzy> anyone?
[12:29] <rommel> ?
[12:30] <Kelly> i am so frustrated with ubuntu right now.....i dont know why my video is not working.......ubuntu went backwards?
[12:30] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: I am using a deraivative of Ubuntu.
[12:31] <linuxzy> maybe you shoud change a video player
[12:31] <Kelly> chrome will not work...wth...
[12:31] <fidel> Kelly: if you are still about youtube - i assume flash might be your issue. mind trying chrome? should come with a working version of flash out of the box
[12:31] <fidel> ups - really?
[12:32] <jack> mr_64br13l1, mint?
[12:32] <mr_64br13l1> jack: Elemntary Os
[12:33] <mr_64br13l1> elementary*
[12:33] <jack> ok - is it good?
[12:33] <mr_64br13l1> Yep.
[12:33] <Kelly> i tried VLC, chrome , updated ubuntu restricted extras.........   i cant be the only person with  these issues...running older pc
[12:33] <jack> i might try it too
[12:33] <linuxzy> really?
[12:34] <linuxzy> pear os is good too
[12:34] <mr_64br13l1> Elementary os looks gorgeous compared to others.
[12:34] <mr_64br13l1> Pear os support has ended.
[12:34] <linuxzy> like mac os
[12:34] <llutz> !ot
[12:34] <rommel> mr_64br13l1, what de does elementary use
[12:35] <mr_64br13l1> rommel: pm me, CAnt talk about other distros here.
[12:35] <rommel> ahh
[12:35] <llutz> take it to #elementary
[12:35] <rommel> lol
[12:35] <linuxzy> ubunutu is a litter ,,,
[12:36] <linuxzy> i have to use ubunutu to learn Linux &C
[12:37] <mr_64br13l1> linuxzy: How are you learning it?
[12:37] <rommel> first i have tried ubuntu... been a day now and after the nightmarish install that has no intractive interface to speak of it seems ok if you like things that just kind of work.
[12:37] <linuxzy> i have teacher
[12:38] <Kelly> bs  if ubuntu cant play videos...this is a major problem for those of us who upload videos for a living.....there has to be a fix to this
[12:38] <rommel> Kelly, it does so it is something foobar on your box
[12:38] <Kelly> it was working just fine with ubuntu 11
[12:39] <rommel> i am using 13.something and it is working
[12:39] <mr_64br13l1> 13 is not LTS
[12:39] <linuxzy> 12.04 is LTS
[12:40] <mr_64br13l1> LTZ is always better for daily use.
[12:40] <rommel> i am not sure what that means but 12. install dvd locked up on the laptop... so 13 it was
[12:40] <mr_64br13l1> LTS*
[12:40] <Kelly> at my terminal....nothing happens if i type version
[12:40] <wc-it> how to connect to server
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  cat /etc/issue
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  or lsb_release -sd
[12:41] <rommel> mr_64br13l1, heh i have been running gentoo and funtoo now for almost 12 yrs... i think it is a matter of effort
[12:41] <mr_64br13l1> Kelly: lsb_release -a
[12:42] <mr_64br13l1> rommel: What effort are you talking about?
[12:42] <Kelly> command not found
[12:42] <mr_64br13l1> try mine
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  try   cat /etc/issue
[12:44] <Kelly> ty 12.04.4 lts
[12:44] <Kelly> LTS
[12:44] <Laibsch> MonkeyDust: thank you for that hint. I have two entries for Mic boost there: "Mic Boost" and "Internal Mic Boost".  I set them both to 0 and that resulted in a recording with a lower audio level but still the background noise :-(
[12:45] <Kelly> i dont know what to do......wipe out ubuntu and go with another distros?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  what do you want to achieve?
[12:46] <Kelly> chrome not working...installed it...i need to upload and play teaching videos at youtube
[12:46] <linuxzy> remove it and reinstall it
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Kelly  sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[12:47] <linuxzy> yes ,ups
[12:47] <linuxzy> i learnd this just today
[12:50] <Tryacker> yop !
[12:50] <mr_64br13l1> chromium is nto chrome.
[12:50] <mr_64br13l1> not*
[12:51] <thoonai> heyho, I want to restrict user rights, so users cannot start a program like virtualbox
[12:51] <thoonai> any idea how I get this properly working?
[12:51] <xutl> !14.04
[12:51] <llutz> thoonai: don't add them to the vboxusers group
[12:52] <thoonai> llutz: that doestn work :/
[12:52] <xutl> !release
[12:52] <xutl> release date for 14.04 ?
[12:52] <thoonai> my user is not in the vboxusers group and still is allowed to start virtualbox and start a vm
[12:52] <llutz> xutl: april
[12:52] <xutl> llutz: april what ?
[12:52] <llutz> xutl: april 2014
[12:52] <DJones> xutl: Something like 25th April, may be a few days either side though
[12:53] <llutz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:53] <xutl> 25th hmm
[12:53] <DJones> xutl: Actually, 17th
[12:53] <Goutham> Hey
[12:53] <xutl> any changes with respect to braodcom wifi chips driver in 14.04 ?
[12:53] <Goutham> I am going reinstall Windows 8
[12:53] <Goutham> Will it affect ubuntu?
[12:54] <Goutham> I mean the boot menu
[12:54] <thoonai> at least XP and 7 did, so I expect it will too
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> xutl  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[12:54] <thoonai> windows uses its own bootloader afaik
[12:54] <xutl> any changes with respect to broadcom wifi chips driver in 14.04 ?
[12:55] <Goutham> I installed Ubuntu 13.10 in my laptop along with Windows 8 reading some tutorial. Now my Win8 is corrupted and i am installing it again
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> xutl better ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:55] <thoonai> Goutham: you may have to reinstall grub after your win install
[12:55] <xutl> kk
[12:55] <Goutham> thoonai how can i i install grub.
[12:55] <Goutham> sorry. I did that somehow reading online. Is there a  link bro you can suggest
[12:55] <Goutham> or I will find in google
[12:56] <Goutham> Mine is older laptop
[12:56] <Goutham> So i think its easy
[12:56] <linuxzy> you can use a NTtools to fix the boot menu
[12:56] <thoonai> Goutham: you can boot a live cd and get to the command line and execute grub-install
[12:56] <sewo> I have installed apache 2.4, and then from the installed files I deleted one file, that I would like to look into again, how can I do this without installing again ?
[12:57] <Goutham> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:57] <Goutham> thoonai, Shall i follow it ^
[12:57] <thoonai> Goutham: looks fine for me
[12:57] <Goutham> TBRO
[12:58] <Goutham> thank you bro
[12:59] <newbie34> while typing varible names with underscores i often leave shift pressed after underscore, so visible_data_ becomes visible_Data_
[12:59] <newbie34> is there a way i can hook linux keyboard handling? ( i wish to make any uppercase letter pressed immidietly after underscore to be lowercase no matter what )
[12:59] <Kelly> ok that install of chrome work...it now opens but at youtube it says could not install the plugin    UGGGGG
[13:00] <Kelly> shockwave flash not loading on chrome
[13:00] <thoonai> llutz: any idea besides deleting the users from vboxusers group?
[13:01] <thoonai> anyone an idea how to restrict users to execute programs like virtualbox?
[13:01] <jamescarr> GNUTLS is unpatched in 12.04
[13:01] <przemek> hello any ideas how to remove ssd disk password left by ex customer ,ssd model - toshiba 128 gb :(
[13:06] <ChrisH> thoonai: remove the package! Better explain why you want to do that.
[13:08] <Kelly> ok......another ubuntu user frustrated and left hanging ............the future is microsoft?  Nooooooo!!!1
[13:08] <thoonai> ChrisH: I want to allow users to work with one virtual machine which settings are set up to protect the host network. but the user should not be allowed to create any other machine or change the settings
[13:10] <pierreN_> hi! after an upgrade i've got the no screen found error when trying to run startx. i don't even have a clue how to start debugging this. any help please? :)
[13:11] <thoonai> ChrisH: the idea was to create a script with setuid for the user vbox which should be the only one able to do all the stuff with virtualbox
[13:11] <thoonai> pierreN_: first: does your graphics card is there?
[13:12] <pierreN_> i think it bugs to load the GLX extension (i.e. Loading extension GLX \n (EE)) but i don't know why now
[13:12] <pierreN_> thoonai: yes, just tried an aptitude dist-upgrade rebooted and...
[13:12] <thoonai> ooph
[13:13] <pierreN_> thoonai: in the past there was /etc/X11/xorg.conf but it seems to have disappear...
[13:14] <pierreN_> (i mean like at least 5 years ago i can't really find where to configure X now)
[13:14] <thoonai> pierreN_: tbh I think that X is the pure evil
[13:15] <pierreN_> thoonai: yup buut... ^
[13:17] <ChrisH> <IP_ADDRESS>:ts2ucima002-ilo
[13:17] <thoonai> ChrisH: ?
[13:18] <ChrisH> thoonai: as long as you allow the user to start vbox he will be able to install/create a new VM into his home. But you can start their VMs automagically using vbox-headless (IIRC). Forget aboyt the IP, accidently paste
[13:19] <pierreN_> thoonai: just was the driver missing. haem. thanks.
[13:19] <thoonai> pierreN_: sorry for not being that helpfull :)
[13:21] <thoonai> ChrisH: how do I disallow users to use vbox?
[13:21] <thoonai> taking them out of vboxusers does not work
[13:21] <thoonai> I actually tried that
[13:22] <cy3g2> halp!  And I don't have a lot of time to re-configure everything. :\
[13:23] <cy3g2> I have quite a bit of stuff installed from PPA's and stuff and that makes it more complicated.
[13:23] <DJones> cy3g2: 13.04 is EOL, thats probably why you're not getting updates
[13:23] <cy3g2> DJones: I know. I was dumb to choose a non-LTS release.
[13:23] <cy3g2> *for choosing
[13:23] <skramer_> cy3g2: no problem, just upgrade to 13.10
[13:24] <ChrisH> thoonai: depending on your users group: chmod 700 $VBOXBINARY might be an option
[13:24] <cy3g2> skramer_: I'm afraid it would brake something. :(
[13:24] <cy3g2> *break
[13:24] <hje841> How can I visualize data in with GTK+ 3?
[13:24] <unixfreak> With `iwconfig' output, what would be the cause of "Invalid Misc" being above zero?
[13:26] <skramer_> cy3g2:on my laptop I have Kubuntu 13.10, it once had been 11.10 and I simply upgraded whenever new version was released. No problems so far...
[13:26] <thoonai> ChrisH: thanks
[13:26] <thoonai> ChrisH: I'll try that
[13:26] <cy3g2> skramer_: I have had bad experiences with upgrading in the past. :(
[13:28] <cy3g2> I guess I should just build a new second computer with an identical configuration and install everything on that and then copy all the data files over...
[13:28] <skramer_> cy3g2: Hmm..., that sounds like a good idea ;)
[13:29] <cy3g2> I can't believe it's already 2014 and there's no reliable way to upgrade without the fear of something breaking.
[13:31] <thoonai> ChrisH: thx much a lot :)
[13:31] <cy3g2> How likely is it that I would get haxx0red if I stay on the vulnerable system until the next proper LTS release comes out? :\
[13:37] <julio> buenos días?
[13:38] <Hanumaan> how to mount drives which are not yet mounted in fstab ? I mean how to mount only newly added drives in fstab ?
[13:41] <ChrisH> Hanumaan: mount -a will try to mount all and skoip the mounted with: allready mounted. Plan b mount /some/mount/point/from/fstab
[13:43] <kingplusplus> please how do i login after creating a user in Ubuntu Server, i used the "useradd testers" command and can't login i am getting permission denied on the ssh
[13:45] <user> hello
[13:46] <user> what is the command to start the powersetting thing? I am using i3wm, and want it to stop going into hibernation (it just freezes when it does)
[13:49] <user_> oi
[13:50] <user_> oi
[13:51] <laricia> oi marcelo
[13:55] <sgo11> hi, if I run "sudo dmidecode --type memory" , it returns "Number Of Devices: 4". does it mean I have 4 RAM slots? I remembered the last time I opened the cover, it just has two RAM slots if my memory is not wrong. thanks.
[13:56] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register
[13:59] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register name
[14:01] <kingplusplus> hey anyone know how to copy all txt in a file to clipboard in vi? i tried :%y+ it says Invalid register name
[14:03] <sgo11> kingplusplus, first select the text, and then "+y for pasting with ctrl+v. "*y for pasting with middle mouse button.
[14:03] <sgo11> I mean ctrl+v in other applications like browser.
[14:04] <kingplusplus> sgo11, how do i copy all text?
[14:04] <cfhowlett> kingplusplus, select + right click + copy
[14:06] <sgo11> kingplusplus, first select them. I am not vim expert. for me, I will do this: ESC, gg (to top), v (to select mode), G (to bottom), then "+y or "*y
[14:11] <leshaste> is there a java profile in ubuntu?
[14:11] <leshaste> profiler I mean
[14:13] <stianhj> leshaste: like http://visualvm.java.net?
[14:14] <stianhj> it's in the repos
[14:18] <Kully> anyone have any experience placing two ubuntu distrobutions on a lan in aws?
[14:19] <luft> can I get some help on iptables forwarding?
[14:20] <leshaste> stianhj, thanks
[14:20] <luft> I have a guest vm with qemu that is accessible at <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:21] <alok99> I don't remember who I spoke with briefly yesterday about Ubuntu on an iMac
[14:21] <luft> it has a webserver on it, and I can download the home webpage with the host machine with wget <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:21] <alok99> but I got it working
[14:21] <alok99> http://i.imgur.com/r0JeyvN.jpg
[14:21] <luft> i want to forward requests on port 60213 on the host machine to <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[14:22] <luft> i tried these rules but they didn't work when I tried "wget localhost:60213" on the host machine
[14:24] <luft> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 60213 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS> && iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i virbr0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[14:24] <kingplusplus> sorry when vim says 27 lines yanked i think it means its on clipboard, but when i paste the data i get different stuff pasted
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> kingplusplus: are you pasting into vim?
[14:25] <kingplusplus> ActionParsnip, actually am pasting into nano
[14:26] <kingplusplus> ActionParsnip, i want to copy and paste from local host to remote host
[14:28] <leshaste> stianhj, how do you start it?
[14:29] <dupingping_> hi
[14:29] <bananapie> dupingping_ hi
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[14:29] <SirLagz> pooky248321: do you send overseas ?
[14:29] <somsip> !spam | pooky248321
[14:30] <bananapie> !spam ubottu
[14:30] <pooky248321> these are free
[14:30] <somsip> SirLagz: this is not the place. take it to pm
[14:30] <dupingping> !spam | pooky248321
[14:30] <somsip> pooky248321: no ads here
[14:30] <SirLagz> somsip: sorry
[14:30] <pooky248321> OK
[14:30] <somsip> pooky248321: thank you
[14:31] <dupingping> hi who is ubuntu developer?
[14:31] <Pessimist> dupingping, canonical
[14:32] <bananapie> dupingping_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !canonical
[14:33] <dupingping> Hi, who is know that proxy protocol?
[14:33] <dupingping> !proxy
[14:33] <dupingping> !protocol
[14:33] <ashish> what is best option for amd4000 series card in dabian for best performance
[14:34] <dupingping> @ashish I don't know.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> ashish, ask the #debian channel
[14:34] <dupingping> ok, ashish.
[14:34] <dupingping> go over there.
[14:35] <Guest93441> dupingping, i m using ubuntu thats why asked here
[14:37] <Pessimist> Guest93441, http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/
[14:39] <dupingping> Guest93441 what?
[14:42] <dupingping> Hey
[14:42] <dupingping> I'm a recovery exporter
[14:42] <dupingping> I'm a recovery expert
[14:43] <somsip> dupingping: do you have a support question or are you here to help others?
[14:43] <dupingping> yes?
[14:43] <dupingping> I saw
[14:43] <dupingping> a question, today.
[14:43] <somsip> dupingping: please keep on the topic of support in here. Anything else can go in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:44] <dupingping> I am going to reply about that.
[14:44] <dupingping> That problem is one about lost data.
[14:45] <dupingping> somsip It's not able?
[14:45] <majod> hello. mi trying to install ubuntu 12.04, after i boot the installation and i press "try ubuntu", my ethernet is not detected at all. should i try to install it, or it wont work anyway?
[14:45] <masood> anyone knows samba here to ask my question?
[14:45] <somsip> dupingping: the question makes no sense. You need to ask it differently
[14:45] <somsip> !anyone | masood
[14:45] <cfhowlett> majod, install without ethernet and configure it after installation.
[14:46] <majod> cfhowlett, and how?
[14:46] <majod> without internet
[14:46] <cfhowlett> majod, did you finish installing?
[14:46] <majod> no
[14:46] <majod> i didnt even start
[14:46] <cfhowlett> majod, you do NOT need the internet to install.
[14:46] <majod> i know
[14:46] <majod> i meant, how do i troubleshoot without internet?
[14:46] <majod> i have no idea what to do with it
[14:47] <masood> !details
[14:47] <cfhowlett> majod, after you've finished installing, come back to this channel
[14:47] <majod> :D
[14:47] <cfhowlett> !ethernet
[14:48] <masood> please help, samba does not work. binding to ldap server failed!
[14:48] <majod> allright, i come back with my internet not working
[14:48] <masood> lib/smbldap.c:(smbldap_connect_system)failed to bind to server ldapi:/// with dn="uid=samba,ou=system-accounts,dc=example,dc=com" Error: Invalid credentials
[14:48] <masood> I use Ubuntu 12.04, openldap 2.4.28, samba 3.6.3
[14:48] <Pessimist> masood, Error: Invalid credentials
[14:49] <masood> yes
[14:49] <psdn> If I cmake, make, and install a program from commandline, how do I remove it if I choose to reinstall??
[14:49] <JustMozzy> hey guys. shouldn't apache be by default able to write to tmp?
[14:49] <somsip> JustMozzy: /tmp should be 777
[14:49] <masood> I set password for samba by smbpasswd -w
[14:49] <Pici> masood: looks to me that you don't have a ldap server defined there.
[14:50] <usr13_> luft: Why not tell the webserver to listen on port 60213?
[14:50] <JustMozzy> somsip: it is but for some reason... wait not apache but ruby is not able to write to it
[14:50] <Pessimist> psdn, that's why you use a package manager. If a program = one binary file in /usr/bin then you can just remove it, else it's hard
[14:50] <luft> usr13_: because the webserver in question is on a vm
[14:50] <terho> :D
[14:50] <Guest93441> how to install amd4000 sries driver in ubuntu13.10
[14:50] <masood> Pici: I have, and ldapsearch -x works
[14:50] <usr13_> luft: Why does that matter?
[14:51] <psdn> package manager was several version behind. Had to do it by hand.
[14:51] <somsip> JustMozzy: maybe #ruby would be a better place to ask. You could prepare a pastebin of the error and post it here in case, but...
[14:51] <terho> installing Zentyal server and drinking coffee :3
[14:52] <usr13_> luft: What OS is the host and what OS is the guest?
[14:52] <terho> ?
[14:52] <JustMozzy> somsip: never mind. just deleted everything in /tmp and it worked... odd
[14:52] <luft> usr13_: host is ubuntu, guest is fedora 20
[14:52] <Pessimist> psdn, most of the time there is a ppa with the up-to-date version of the software because Ubuntu is the most popular gnu/linux distribution
[14:53] <usr13_> luft: And the webserver is listening on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[14:54] <dupingping> Hi
[14:54] <dupingping> all men
[14:55] <dupingping> I know you as ...
[14:55] <usr13_> luft: And the webserver is listening on <IP_ADDRESS>:80  Right?
[14:55] <somsip> !ot | dupingping
[14:55] <luft> usr13_: the guest vm is at <IP_ADDRESS> on the host, and yes I can wget <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:55] <Pici> dupingping: you seem to have the enter key confused with the spacebar.  You can put more than 3 words on a line.
[14:55] <Pessimist> we need to notify the ops about dupingping
[14:56] <somsip> Pessimist: Pici is one
[14:56] <dupingping> Ah, I understood.
[14:56] <Pessimist> !ops
[14:56] <Pici> Pessimist: yes?
[14:56] <h00k> Pessimist: it's not quite an emergency :(
[14:57]  * cfhowlett agrees
[14:57] <usr13_> luft: And you are trying to implement the rules on the guest machine.  Right?
[14:58] <luft> usr13_: I'm trying to get the host machine to forward requests on port 60213 to the guest machine
[14:59] <dry[1]> hi. what's currently the best software on ubuntu to create games for android?
[14:59] <badass> how can i do a conditional statement in bash to compare the md5sum of a file to a static string?
[14:59] <badass> if [[ $(md5sum filename) == "abcdefghijklmnop1234567890" ]]; then echo 'hello'; fi
[14:59] <badass> something like that
[15:00] <Guest93441> how to install amd4000 sries driver in ubuntu13.10
[15:00] <cfhowlett> badass, ask the !bash channel    ?
[15:00] <usr13_> luft: I think you are looking at this from the wrong angle.  The guest machine is listening to the outside too, so you need to just concentrate on the guest machine.  Again;  Why not just make the webserver listen on the port you want it to?
[15:00] <jpds> badass: Put the sums in a file and use; md5sum -c $FILE; echo $?
[15:02] <usr13_> luft: But, I may not be understanding exactly what you really want to do, (because you've not explained in detail what the circumstances are and what it is you really are trying to to here).
[15:02] <usr13_> to do here
[15:02] <usr13_> not "to to here"
[15:03] <luft> usr13_: how would the guest machine be listening outside the host's network? it's in NAT mode
[15:03] <usr13_> luft: Well, it shouldn't be
[15:04] <usr13_> luft: Should be bridged
[15:04] <luft> bridged requires a lot more changes of the host server, which I would prefer not to do since I'm not too familiar with it
[15:05] <usr13_> luft: I don't know that it really requires a lot more changes, but to my way of thinking, that's what you need, because if it were bridged, the guest would be listening independly to the outside.
[15:06] <usr13_> luft: And then the router would be forwarding a port to it.
[15:06] <usr13_> luft: Right?
[15:07] <luft> usr13_: that's problem #2, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it
[15:07] <usr13_> luft: Looks like you're already on that bridge ;0
[15:08] <luft> usr13_: the host machine already has an apache2 server bound to 80
[15:08] <usr13_> O
[15:08] <luft> right now I'm just trying to get the vm's apache accessible from the host's IP address
[15:08] <luft> on the host
[15:09] <usr13_> luft: Ok, then, I'm a bit confused as to why you would have 2 servers running on the same network?
[15:09] <luft> then I'll open the port when I'm happy
[15:09] <usr13_> luft: Why two web-servers?
[15:09] <luft> usr13_: host machine's apache2 is the production server, vm is test server
[15:10] <usr13_> luft: If it is the test server, why does it need outside access?
[15:10] <luft> just so my lab members can test it easily instead of downloading and installing libvirtd etc etc
[15:11] <usr13_> luft: Ok
[15:11] <usr13_> luft: And lab members are on the other side of the same router.  Right?
[15:12] <luft> yes
[15:12] <usr13_> luft: In that case, you should probably have an alias on another IP for it.
[15:13] <usr13_> luft: So instead of just a different port, use a different IP address.
[15:13] <usr13_> luft: Ok?
[15:14] <luft> usr13_: I don't know if I have enough control over the network at the moment to perform such a change
[15:14] <usr13_> luft: You don't have access to another IP address?
[15:15] <usr13_> luft: ...because that's all you need, is one more IP address.  Right?
[15:16] <luft> usr13_: wouldn't that alias have to be added to another machine?
[15:17] <usr13_> luft: Well, the way you are doing it now, you could just add it to the host, and then forward it's port 80 traffic as you are tryint to do now, (only much simplier). Right?
[15:17] <usr13_> luft: At any rate, just using another IP address is the way to go.
[15:18] <luft> where would I add the alias?
[15:18] <usr13_> luft: Well, it's up to you, but if what you say is true, that the host is dong nat to the VM guest, then do it on the host, eth0:0
[15:19] <sidi> Hi. I'm currently looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_privilege_authorization_features and it seems to suggest that on *buntu systems, when an admin requires privilege escalation to root to perform an admin task, their password is asked instead of the root password. I seem to recall *buntu does not necessarily have a root password. Could anybody confirm whether it is indeed the user's password being asked?
[15:19] <usr13_> luft: Do you have an IP?
[15:19] <cfhowlett> !root
[15:19] <cfhowlett> sidi, sudoers have a password.  if you're doing a privileged task, the sudo password will be requested
[15:19] <luft> usr13_: I have a static ip assigned to eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[15:20] <sidi> cfhowlett, thanks. do you know if there's any documentation why this is considered a better practice than a root password?
[15:21] <cfhowlett> sidi, I know there is documentation/justification somewhere - can't advise further.  sorry.
[15:22] <nico__> hi everyone
[15:22] <nico__> i was wondering if someone can help me
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> nico__  let's hear it
[15:23] <nico__> im trying to use the hangout chrome extension like a desktop app for ubuntu unity
[15:24] <nico__> i wan to be able to set the windows in "always on top" and "follows" me in every desktop that im working at
[15:24] <sidi> cfhowlett, np, thanks.
[15:24] <nico__> i know that this can be done with cynamon or open box
[15:24] <luft> usr13_: I tried the bridging as you suggested and now the vm has no network: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7038996/
[15:24] <nico__> but i like to do it with unity
[15:24] <luft> I followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmWithBridge
[15:27] <lovea> quit
[15:27] <nico__> MonkeyDust: do you think that someone can help me with that?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> nico__  no idea, never heard of it
[15:28] <usr13_> luft: Well, you have the same IP for both
[15:31] <luft> usr13_: oh the guide says to delete the definition of eth0 :X
[15:31] <usr13_> luft: I don't understand that guide at all
[15:32] <luft> usr13_: this is what I was afraid of, if I mess up the network config of this server, I dunno where it is and I only have an SSH connection to it and a lot of people depend on it for work
[15:33] <usr13_> luft: Then just put it back the way you had it.
[15:37] <usr13_> luft: (But what I just suggested was to leave it as you have it, (in nat mode), and create an alias on the host for the other webserver, and use iptables rule to forward the alias IP's port 80 traffic to the already existing guest interface.)
[15:39] <usr13_> luft: And you certainly did not tell us that you only have ssh access to this computer.
[15:39] <dry[1]> hi. what's currently the most popular software on ubuntu to create games for android?
[15:39] <genii> dry[1]: I would guess Eclipse
[15:40] <luft> usr13_: as far as I know. there's a lot I still don't know about this server and the 1 or 2 people who know anything about it don't seem to know too much either
[15:43] <dry[1]> genii: what do you think about stencyl?
[15:43] <odisa> Hello. I have an extra monitor connected to my laptop. Where can I find the best guide to have the external monitor display a different workspace?
[15:44] <genii> dry[1]: No opinion yet, since this is the first I've heard of it
[15:45] <usr13_> luft: Well, you and/or them, are going to learn a few things ASAP ;)
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> dry[1]  i guess you better ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:46] <dry[1]> MonkeyDust: thx
[15:46] <usr13_> luft: until you lear to operate the VM, use another PC for the test server.
[15:46] <genii> dry[1]: There is also of course #android-dev ;)
[15:46] <dry[1]> genii: thx :)
[15:47] <usr13_> luft: And also remember that if you implement an iptables rule that doesn't work, back it out again before continuing.  (change the -A to -D).
[15:48] <luft> usr13_: yeah I have been
[15:48] <usr13_> Ok
[15:49] <luft> I'm gonna go ahead and log for the day and try again tomorrow
[15:49] <luft> cya
[15:50] <usr13_> luft: FYI there is also #Netfilter  (you could ask questions there too).
[15:50] <luft> kk i will
[15:51] <usr13_> luft: Ok, good luck with it. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[15:51] <ChrisH> cm13g09: Upgrade was successfully.. thanks
[15:53] <cm13g09> ChrisH: excellent :)  glad it worked
[15:54] <Indy_> A couple years ago (or, when Unity first made it into Ubuntu) I stopped using Ubuntu and switched back to windows after 3 years of linux use... Unity had some hideous graphical and usability bugs
[15:54] <brunoais> Hey!
[15:54] <Indy_> where i couldnt find solution, nor google or irc, forums etc
[15:54] <Indy_> i m gonna try with the new LTS... lets hope i dont get failed again :/
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: you dont have to use Unity......
[15:54] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[15:54] <usr13_> Indy_: Why didn't you try another Desktop Environmnent?
[15:55] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[15:55] <tmmunq> yeah... i dont... i tried for a couple weeks but was constantly running into problems.
[15:55] <Indy_> ActionParsnip: ok
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: If you dont like Unity, don't use it, use a different shell like Gnome-shell. Or you can switch entirely to KDE, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
[15:55] <brunoais> (e.g. this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191964/how-do-i-know-which-file-a-program-is-trying-to-access  does not work for me)
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: is your dislike of Unity why you switch from Ubuntu?
[15:55] <Indy_> not dislike
[15:55] <usr13_> Indy_: If you did not like Unity, there was xfce lxde kde etc. etc.
[15:55] <Indy_> unusability in my case back then
[15:55] <Indy_> there were some serious bugs
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: thats fine. Again, you dont have to use Unity
[15:56] <Indy_> ok
[15:56] <Indy_> anyway, all I wanted to say
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: so why didnt you just switch session?
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  if you don't like unity, don't use it... install and use something else
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: is that seriously your thought process...?
[15:56] <Indy_> was I really wanted the whole process to be smooth and seamless, not for me, I could find a solution, but for the end user
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: it is, install a new desktop, log off, log in to the new. Done
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[15:57] <Indy_> how much point is there for my grandma to use ubuntu if she has to switch from unity to another cause of unusability? shouldnt she just press the button and everything works?
[15:57] <Indy_> while the competition (windows, mac) is what it is
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the session per user is remembered, so she'll just log in and get the sesison she used last
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  logout, switch, login, that's all there's to it
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: each user can use a different desktop if you want
[15:57] <Indy_> hmmm
[15:57] <Indy_> ok...
[15:58] <usr13_> Indy_: You find something you like and stick with it.
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: if you want a windowsy feel, instal kubuntu, it uses KDE instead of Gnome
[15:58] <Indy_> no i dont want a windowsy feel i like gnome
[15:58] <Indy_> i didnt say that for myself i said it for all potential end users
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: then install Cinammon, its in the default repos
[15:59] <usr13_> Indy_: If you like gnome use it, (or xfce)
[15:59] <usr13_> Indy_: Or yea, Cinammon
[15:59] <Indy_> and as i said, it wasn't a matter of likeness etc, there were some plain, heavy usability bugs
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the OS is very customisable, its like switching back to Windows because Firefox is the default web browser and you perfer Chrome
[15:59] <Indy_> and as i recall it wasn't as simple as "swicth DE option, logoff then login" cause that process had some bugs too
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: the desktop is as changable as a web browser
[16:00] <Indy_> i am talking about 3-4 versions ago
[16:00] <Indy_> when unity first made it in
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: its been like this since day 0
[16:00] <Indy_> all I am saying is I really hope those bold bugs are absent now
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: this is linux, where choice is champion
[16:00] <Indy_> hehe
[16:00] <trijntje> Indy_: the best way to help other users is to file bugs when you encounter problems, not complain about them 2 years later
[16:00] <usr13_> Indy_: I think that the point we are trying to make is that this is not a cookie-cutter OS, there are *many* options.
[16:00] <Indy_> trijntje: my smartass friend i did and did and did by bug report grew white beard
[16:01] <Indy_> but*
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Indy_: so can you see why switching back to windows, burely due to a dislike of Unity is quite hilarious
[16:01] <Indy_> i didnt do it cause of that (only)
[16:02] <Indy_> and i didnt exactly "switch"
[16:02] <usr13_> Indy_: What *exactly* did you do?
[16:02] <Indy_> i only had ubuntu on disk, and that (plus) some other things) made me dual boot with windows
[16:02] <Indy_> and the sad part is, that windows seemed much more seamless to use, without all those accessibility and usability bugs, my ubuntu installation was facing at that time
[16:03] <Indy_> and I am very much worried that if i was (subconsciously) discouraged like this
[16:03] <Indy_> imagine about end user
[16:03] <usr13_> Indy_: Did you look at the link that MonkeyDust sent you?  ( http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg  )
[16:03] <Indy_> yes
[16:03] <Indy_> you dont get my point guys
[16:03] <Indy_> I am just expressing my worry here
[16:04] <Indy_> that me, who i love linux open source etc, having the choice of dual boot, made me over time and time and time
[16:04] <Indy_> to use windows more --> to 100% :/
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  thank you for sharing your feelings with the channel, but also accept and try our suggestions
[16:04] <Indy_> cause of accessibility smoothness usability issues
[16:04] <Indy_> which i hope there are not present this time
[16:04] <usr13_> Indy_: What do you have installed now?
[16:04] <Indy_> MonkeyDust: sure
[16:05] <Indy_> usr13_: why does it matter?
[16:05] <Indy_> anyway, I didnt want to bitch or anything really :)
[16:05] <usr13_> Indy_: It matters because if we do not even know what you have installed, how can we give you any specific advise on what to do with it?
[16:05] <Indy_> I am gonna get the LTS when it comes out, and I will tell impressions, I am hoping and I am optimistic :)
[16:06] <Indy_> usr13_: i didnt come here asking for advice :)
[16:06] <Indy_> I just wanted to share this thought :/
[16:06] <Indy_> and concern
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  next time, don't use this channel for it
[16:06] <usr13_> Indy_: YOu can install 12.04.4 now and upgrade in April.
[16:07] <abaday> hello! How do I change in grub menu so that I can boot directly in bash so I can remove the password of root?
[16:07] <Indy_> MonkeyDust: and which one to use then?
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> abaday  try recovery mode
[16:07] <Indy_> usr13_: I know but I choose not to, in order to emulate a "total end user's experience from scratch"
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> Indy_  #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[16:08] <Indy_> u got it..
[16:08] <whoever> when i hit alt:tab all of the little icons look the same
[16:08] <whoever> is this normal on 13.10
[16:08] <usr13_> Indy_: Or you can join  #ubuntu+1 and ask about the possibilities of installing 14.04 now.
[16:09] <Indy_> usr13_: thanks
[16:09] <bugs_bugger> hi there. does anybody know, how i can reset python3 to the default repository version(3.3.2) after having upgraded it compiling from newer sources(3.3.4)? apt-get --reinstall install wont reset the version
[16:09] <usr13_> Indy_: NP
[16:09] <abaday> MonkeyDust: I tried recovery mode, but it was only in read-only mode, so I cant change anything
[16:10] <trijntje> abaday: what are you trying to achieve?
[16:10] <abaday> trijntje: change password of root, I locked myself out
[16:11] <usr13_> !root | abaday
[16:11] <brunoais> Hey!
[16:11] <trijntje> abaday: of root or of the sudo user?
[16:11] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[16:11] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> abaday  while in lightdm menu, hit ctrl alt F1 ... or is that not what you mean?
[16:11] <usr13_> !password | abaday
[16:12] <usr13_> MonkeyDust: I'm pretty sure what he has done is just forgot his password, so he just needs to follow the steps for password recovery.
[16:12] <abaday> my only other user than root has been removed from sudoers
[16:12] <brunoais> usr13_, if you REEEEALLY want to sdo stuff as root, then use:
[16:12] <brunoais> sudo su
[16:12] <usr13_> abaday: Did you enable the root account?
[16:13] <usr13_> abaday: Or did you just dissable sudo on your account?
[16:14] <brunoais> Hey!
[16:14] <brunoais> does anyone know how can I get the list of files a process has tried to open so far and failed to open?
[16:14] <brunoais> if it is impossible, is there a way to attach a listener to such thing to a program to which I can't start directly?
[16:15] <brunoais> (e.g. this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/191964/how-do-i-know-which-file-a-program-is-trying-to-access  does not work for me)
[16:15] <abaday> usr13_: I disabled sudo on my account
[16:15] <allyai> llutz
[16:15] <Pici> brunoais: strace can do that, but it is really verbose.
[16:15] <usr13_> abaday: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[16:16] <brunoais> Pici, I have no probs with being verbose.
[16:16] <abaday> 13.10 usr13_
[16:16] <brunoais> Pici, Can I use it with a process name instead of a processid?
[16:16] <allyai> i get http://imgur.com/cInP4tF when i try to boot my windows drive without my ubuntu drive plugged in. how do i fix it?
[16:17] <brunoais> I dunno which of the processes is doing it I just know the name
[16:17] <brunoais> Pici, it has a long list of pids each time it opens
[16:17] <MosDef> ..
[16:17] <usr13_> abaday: Ok and you said that when you went into recovery mode, it was read only?
[16:18] <abaday> yes
[16:18] <usr13_> abaday: mount -o rw,remount /
[16:18] <usr13_> abaday: adduser username sudo replacing username with your user name
[16:19] <usr13_> abaday: You should at that point see a message saying 'adding user' followed by 'done'
[16:19] <Pici> brunoais: if it is opening child processes, you can use the -f option to automatically pull them in as they open or you can use pidof and multiple -p options to specify multiple pids.  (the manpage explains this)
[16:20] <brunoais> Pici, ok. maybe I can trace from the launcher
[16:20] <usr13_> abaday: But I'm curious as to why it is in read only mode.  Not sure why that is.
[16:20] <allyai> anyone know?
[16:20] <abaday> usr13_:  worked thanks!
[16:20] <usr13_> abaday: Ok good.
[16:20] <andres_> Hola
[16:20] <andres_> Hello
[16:21] <JoeSomebody> hi, gnome fans (i assume) i need help , kde seems pretty flaky on hdmi stuff, now that i am using something with an hdmi, maybe i need to revisit gnome (i was sorta against the lack of customizability if you remember) is hdmi gonna behave any better on gnome? :)
[16:22] <JoeSomebody> is there a ubuntu channel for tv stuff?
[16:23] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: For TV stuff, press power button on your remote control.  (sorry couldn't resist)
[16:24] <bugs_bugger> does anybody know, how i can reset python3 to the default repository version(3.3.2) after having upgraded it compiling from newer sources(3.3.4)? apt-get --reinstall install wont reset the version
[16:24] <andres_> lala
[16:25] <andres_> Hola - hello
[16:25] <lalatenduM> andres_, hi
[16:26] <andres_> do you speak spanish?
[16:26] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: Well, I thought I might keep the conversation alive until someone saw it and came up with a solution for you. But I'd say just try anoter DE and see.  Try xfce maybe?
[16:26] <JoeSomebody> tried nvidia and radeon, both,  and three kde distros, i am convinced the hdmi in linux is a bit flaky (or at least kde)
[16:26] <allyai> llutz told me this yesterday but i never got the chance to see how to fix:
[16:26] <Callan_> hello
[16:26] <allyai> [17:02] <llutz> allyai: grub needs the grub-files on your ubuntu-disk
[16:26] <allyai> [17:02] <llutz> allyai: no ubuntu-disk -> no bootmanager
[16:27] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: YOu may be right (about kde).
[16:27] <usr13_> JoeSomebody: I would expect Nvidia would work ok.
[16:27] <allyai> why do i need grub to boot windows though?
[16:27] <JoeSomebody> i s there a rolling release ubuntu of some kind?
[16:27] <Pici> JoeSomebody: no
[16:28] <Callan_> I believe the ubuntu download link is down for some reason
[16:28] <usr13_> allyai: Because grub is the default boot loader, (and it is easier that way).
[16:28] <JoeSomebody> can i upgrade xbmc within ubuntu 13.10?
[16:28] <GeekDude> If I'm aiming for lightweight, but with html5 support, I'd be wanting midori?
[16:28] <Callan_> Is anyone else having trouble downloading Ubuntu off the site? or the mirror?
[16:29] <mr_64br13l> GeekDude: Yep.
[16:29] <allyai> so how do i boot into windows without my ubuntu drive in then?
[16:29] <JoeSomebody> xbmcbuntu passed all tests, but no DE
[16:29] <usr13_> allyai: What kind of drive is it?  USB?
[16:29] <JoeSomebody> likes the hardware
[16:29] <allyai> ive got two hard drives. one with windows 7 and the other with ubuntu
[16:30] <allyai> only two sata ports, and ive got some data on some other drives i want to get off.
[16:30] <usr13_> allyai: Why would you unplug one of the drives?
[16:30] <allyai> but i cant boot into windows or ubuntu without both of those drives plugged in
[16:30] <allyai> what do you mean?
[16:30] <usr13_> allyai: Why are you unplugging the drive that has Ubuntu on it?
[16:31] <allyai> to plug in a drive that i need data off of
[16:32] <usr13_> allyai: Ok, I think this is what you need:  (a USB HD adapter, http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-to-IDE-SATA-S-ATA-2-5-3-5-HD-HDD-Adapter-Cable-/180550148600?pt=US_Drive_Cables_dapters&hash=item2a09a0a1f8 )
[16:33] <usr13_> (everyone needs one of those...)  ^^^^^^^^
[16:34] <lattera> http://ix.io/aX0 <- why do programs fail to link with libcheck, even when I'm including the right dependencies?
[16:34] <GeekDude> The page 'file:///user/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html' could not be loaded
[16:34] <genii> usr13_: Yes, I keep 2 of those in my kit :)
[16:34] <GeekDude> I suppose that's because I'm on server instead of desktop?