[02:11] <handsome_feng> Hi, ponchale, our leader's opinion is the same as mine, at the moment we are mainly focused on developing UKUI, so you can fork our project and then if you have any question, we can discuss it together.


[04:22]  * _marx_ latest grandma hasn't complained much
[04:22] <_marx_> she booked her cruise for october
[04:28] <holstein> pig fish eyes move with spam
[06:04] <_marx_> akgraner: please email me soon
[06:19] <_marx_> maybe i am blind but there are very few new users in nc
[06:20] <_marx_> analytics show very low
[06:22] <_marx_> linux desktop adoption capped out a year or two ago; imho unity has not helped
[06:23] <_marx_> desktop usage, imho
[06:24] <_marx_> it needed some huge gains over the last decade; which have not materialized
[06:35] <_marx_> do your research; ibm quit a few years ago
[06:36] <_marx_> can you say niche desktop?
[06:39] <_marx_> what corporation is going to roll out the current?
[06:41] <_marx_> zero
[06:42] <_marx_> new users what a joke; no way in hell i'll hand out a 11.04 livecd
[06:43] <_marx_> yes i know this is a logged channel
[06:47] <_marx_> there are very few daily users on our team's mailing list
[06:47] <_marx_> mostly it's geeks and devels
[06:48] <_marx_> do any of you recruit?
[06:48] <_marx_> i do not
[06:48] <_marx_> it is not worth the effort
[06:48] <_marx_> i support a couple of grandmas
[06:49] <_marx_> my own shit
[06:49] <_marx_> fuckina log it
[06:50] <_marx_> 2 49 am your kids should be in bed
[06:52] <_marx_> choice went somewhere
[06:52] <_marx_> i'll see if i can find her
[06:54] <_marx_> desktop team should be fired imo; oh i'll be at the next uds
[06:56] <_marx_> we certainly do need more acronyms
[06:58] <_marx_> my email addresses are well known.
[06:59] <_marx_> when channel ownership needs to change someone can use one of those addresses
[07:00] <_marx_> out here
[08:39] <_marx_> now i am going to remain rudely the op
[08:39] <_marx_> as i own the channel
[08:39] <_marx_> i WANT someone else to take over
[08:40] <_marx_> soon
[08:40] <_marx_> i am tired
[08:41] <_marx_> see the nc team mailing list email i just sent
[08:41] <_marx_> later
[13:03] <akgraner> Hi all  - sorry I haven't been around was without internet at the house for about 10 days (lightning storms)...and since I can't drive yet I was a bit stuck
[13:03] <akgraner> I'll go through all my email today and get caught up
[13:06] <internalkernel> hi akgraner
[13:06] <akgraner> internalkernel, hi
[13:06] <internalkernel> been awhile...
[13:07] <akgraner> yep
[13:07] <internalkernel> I been on the road until last week pretty much...
[13:07] <akgraner> silly fractured knee business
[13:07] <internalkernel> did you make SELF? I read something about that on facebook... how did you do that?
[13:07] <akgraner> it's really limited what I can and can't do
[13:07] <internalkernel> I can imagine... knees are rather... mmm... important
[13:07] <akgraner> coupldn't make it
[13:07] <akgraner> I can't drive yet
[13:08] <internalkernel> not even with the other foot?
[13:08] <internalkernel> lol... I had to do that once...
[13:08] <akgraner> when I fell on the way back from UDS I fractured the stablizer bone in my knee
[13:08] <internalkernel> it wasn't pretty... and it scared me... :)
[13:09] <akgraner> and found out the left side of my right knee the muscle is gone...and won't help keep the knee cap in place so if any weight is put on it the bottom of my right left wants to turn inward to the left
[13:09] <akgraner> so physical therapy 3 times a week
[13:09] <akgraner> on crutches for another 3 or 4 weeks min...maybe more
[13:10] <internalkernel> holy... omg, that is hard core...
[13:10] <akgraner> and today I go to be fitted for custom braces
[13:10] <internalkernel> I would suggest acupuncture... ;) but you're so far away...
[13:10] <akgraner> internalkernel, y'all can come for a visit
[13:10] <internalkernel> haha, true that!
[13:11] <akgraner> see the new house we'll supply dinner you can supply the acupuncture
[13:11] <akgraner> :-)
[13:11] <internalkernel> the mother in law is coming into town today... :/  but maybe after, I'll bring it up... it would be good to see you guys and J-fizzle...
[13:11] <Nivex> wait, he fizzled?
[13:12] <akgraner> I'm actually in Asheville once a week from now until sept
[13:12] <internalkernel> ohh... drop a line on the next visit...
[13:12] <akgraner> maybe I can just make a day of it - if my driver can spend the day with me in Asheville
[13:12] <internalkernel> J-fizzle.... my dizzle, drizzle
[13:12] <Nivex> fo shizzle
[13:13] <internalkernel> my nizzle
[14:09] <axisofentropy> that _marx_ guy has some nerd rage
[14:18] <internalkernel> axisofentropy: what is nerd rage?
[14:19] <axisofentropy> that was p much it
[14:19] <internalkernel> lol... I like that comment nerd rage... Im going with it...
[14:58] <internalkernel> nerd... rage...
[14:59] <internalkernel> Raaar... I'm the channel OP! I OWN IT!
[14:59] <internalkernel> =D
[19:54] <BugeyeD> i think nerd rage in this case is really just life rage. been rough for some of us for awhile.
[20:26] <akgraner> internalkernel, holstein lets try and meet before the end of the month in Asheville....
[20:27] <holstein> akgraner: sure... when are you over here ?
[20:27] <akgraner> we can flag your nicks with all the right permissions and stuff and I Can transfer team contact to one of you all and let Canonical know etc
[20:27] <holstein> cool... you have channel ops akgraner ?
[20:27] <akgraner> as well as request all the "give-a-away" stuff so we are up to date for one of you all to take over as contacts
[20:27] <holstein> or someone else does?
[20:28] <akgraner> yep I have ops as well
[20:28] <holstein> i know i made a bunch of facebook page ops
[20:28] <akgraner> we can give more people ops as well...I just need to figure out who needs it
[20:28] <akgraner> I only wanted to change the topic etc
[20:28] <holstein> yeah.. just a few in case
[20:29] <akgraner> but you know how it works but there are some short cuts I can show you all as well etc
[20:29] <holstein> sure... im in
[20:29] <akgraner> holstein, I am at VA every Thursday
[20:29] <akgraner> from like 9-noon
[20:29] <holstein> we can meet after that one thursday if that works for you
[20:30] <holstein> that would be fine with me almost any thursday
[20:30] <akgraner> yep will let you know
[20:30] <akgraner> 3rd week I'll be in SC with Becca for American Idol tryouts
[20:30] <holstein> COOL
[20:30] <akgraner> so it will have to be after that
[20:31] <akgraner> and I have signed copies of the new Ubuntu Book for you and internalkernel
[20:31] <akgraner> thanks for always encouraging me!
[20:31] <holstein> thats cool too... i was thinking about officially going through the channels to ask for one anyways
[20:31] <akgraner> Yep we get a copy
[20:32] <akgraner> as a team :-)
[20:32] <holstein> GO TEAM!
[20:32] <akgraner> but I get extras to help promote it as I am listed as one of the writers :-)
[20:32] <akgraner> like on the cover of the book and everything :-)
[20:32]  * akgraner is so freakin' happy about that!
[20:33] <akgraner> and I should have an article promoting it coming out very soon as well
[20:33] <akgraner> holstein, I'll give the link as soon as it is published
[20:34] <holstein> i know... i saw your name on it and i was proud :)


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[15:24] <tdr112> team report https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/TeamReports/10/November
[15:31] <infoturtle`> tdr112 do you know when details of the monthly IRC are going up on wiki.ubuntu? I was going to trow up the even on ubuntu-ie.org but I lack links to do it
[15:32] <tdr112> the  link is in the team report
[15:32] <tdr112> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-11-17
[15:33] <infoturtle`> the november one is there, should have said its the December one I was looking for. Should I trow up the November meeting minutes on the too?
[15:33] <infoturtle`> on the site too*
[15:35] <tdr112> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrishTeam/IRCMeetings/2010-12-15
[15:35] <tdr112> you can create an event for the irc meeting if you like
[15:36] <infoturtle`> fantastic thanks!
[15:36] <tdr112> the guy that normal does it is on hoidays
[15:36] <infoturtle`> i will do now, ill let the masses know on all the socials too
[15:38] <tdr112> good stuff infoturtle`
[15:38] <tdr112> feel free to add to the team report if you like
[15:38] <infoturtle`> ^-^ no problem, ya I'll add the team report too
[16:22] <infoturtle`> done and done, now next on the agenda, booze
[18:20] <czajkowski> aloha
[18:30]  * davisc wonders if the players are having as much problems seeing the game as he is
[18:30] <infoturtle`> its bad alright
[18:31] <davisc> Jesus, I've NEVER seen it like this
[18:32] <davisc> Talk about up-your-jumper time :-)
[18:33] <infoturtle`> davisc you at the match or watching on tv?
[18:33] <davisc> TV
[18:34] <czajkowski> davisc: how do i get to stansted :s
[18:34] <davisc> czajkowski: Stansted Express from Liverpool Street
[18:35] <czajkowski> so train to waterloo
[18:36] <davisc> Yup
[18:36] <davisc> Or whatever station you get into
[18:36] <czajkowski> ok
[18:36] <davisc> Probably need to change on the Underground
[18:36] <czajkowski> wow tickets are expensive
[18:36] <davisc> Oh yes they are :-)
[18:36] <czajkowski> damn comany cc still didnt arrive
[18:37]  * davisc wonders if ROG can see the posts...
[18:38] <davisc> It seems so :-)


[15:59]  * vorlon waves
[15:59] <philroche> \o
[16:00] <vorlon> #startmeeting
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 29 16:00:24 2018 UTC.  The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:00] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:00] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:00] <vorlon> $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson rcj philroche Odd_Bloke juliank fginther platonical tobikoch)
[16:00] <vorlon> tobikoch xnox philroche Odd_Bloke platonical sil2100 cyphermox juliank tdaitx rcj vorlon mwhudson infinity rbalint doko fginther bdmurray
[16:00] <vorlon> tobikoch: hello
[16:00] <rbalint> o/
[16:00] <tobikoch> * vanguarding job shadowing
[16:01] <tobikoch> * some parallel image build work
[16:01] <tobikoch> (done)
[16:01] <tobikoch> xnox:
[16:01] <xnox> pass
[16:01] <xnox> philroche,
[16:01] <philroche> * Release ARM64 AMIs to AWS (see https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/11/29/running-android-in-the-cloud-with-amazon-ec2-a1-instances and https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/new-ec2-instances-a1-powered-by-arm-based-aws-graviton-processors/ )
[16:01] <philroche> * Updates to ubuntu_watch_packages to render package stats to HTML (see https://github.com/philroche/ubuntu-watch-packages and https://private-fileshare.canonical.com/~philroche/ubuntu_watch_packages/package-stats.html)
[16:01] <philroche> * Cloud image build system vanguard
[16:01] <philroche> (done)
[16:01] <philroche> Odd_Bloke:
[16:02] <chiluk> o/
[16:02] <Odd_Bloke> platonical: You go, I lost track of the time.
[16:03] <platonical> ok
[16:03] <platonical> Submitted some backports to xenial- and bionic-proposed:
[16:03] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/bionic-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359645
[16:04] <platonical> https://code.launchpad.net/~codyshepherd/livecd-rootfs/xenial-proposed-snaps-manifest/+merge/359649
[16:04] <platonical> and partner image work
[16:04] <platonical> (done)
[16:04] <platonical> sil2100:
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Mostly out-of-office this last week
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Cloud images vanguard
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Code review
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> * Some unblocking of disco cloud images
[16:04] <Odd_Bloke> (done)
[16:04]  * xnox can go too.
[16:04] <xnox> * plugging in usb sticks into mainframe
[16:04] <xnox>  - it's in!
[16:04] <xnox>  - it boots kernel
[16:04] <xnox>  - it fails to find initrd
[16:04] <xnox> * updating pythons for openssl sru into bionic
[16:04] <xnox> * getting a few subiquity merge proposals merged for s390x support
[16:04] <xnox> * helping unwind rust-* packages
[16:04] <xnox> * more systemd fallout discussions (xenial security reverted)
[16:04] <xnox> * merges: openssl 1.1.1a, meson
[16:05] <xnox> * uploading small bits to drop python3.6 from the archive
[16:05] <xnox> * subiquity zdev design spec review with design
[16:05] <xnox> (done)
[16:05] <gaughen> ha love that the usb stick is your first item, xnox
[16:06] <juliank> sil2100 seems missing
[16:06] <gaughen> juliank, he's trying to find rand
[16:07] <juliank> it's a tool in openssl, see rand(1ssl)
[16:07] <vorlon> cyphermox:
[16:08] <vorlon> juliank:
[16:08] <juliank> * synced networkd-dispatcher
[16:08] <juliank> * send a merge request to networkd-dispatcher upstream
[16:08] <juliank> * wrote and fixed tests for unattended-upgrades for devrelease "auto"
[16:08] <juliank> * some emails
[16:08] <juliank> * some upstream apt discussions
[16:08] <juliank> * prepared a security update for redis in bionic (bug 1805822), gotta keep my vps secure
[16:08] <juliank> * working on some merges
[16:08] <juliank> * off tomorrow - going cycling, deploying server, and/or baking christmas cookies
[16:08] <juliank> (done)
[16:08] <cyphermox> o/
[16:08] <juliank> hey cyphermox :)
[16:08] <cyphermox> - Netplan:
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - add tunnel support, manual testing, still missing doc
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - writing unit tests for tunnel, integration tests still TODO
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - investigating MAC/MTU apply behavior due to networkd matching
[16:08] <cyphermox>  - SRU for MAC/rename issues on bonds/virtual devices
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - reworked unit tests: not a single humongous .py anymore
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - more test rework: integration tests
[16:09] <cyphermox>  - briefly investigated moving away from nose for test runner
[16:09] <cyphermox> - verification for grub SRUs
[16:09] <cyphermox> - discussed tpm2-based disk encryption
[16:09] <cyphermox> - upstream plymouth patch for keyboard deactivation
[16:09] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:11] <vorlon> tdaitx: did you make it back?
[16:11] <vorlon> rcj is off
[16:11] <vorlon>  * short week, off last Thu/Fri for Thanksgiving
[16:11] <vorlon>  * working on a minimal-change respin of Ubuntu 18.04.1 server live image to fix wrong apt sources.list on install
[16:11] <vorlon>  * working on requisitioning port compute nodes into new canonistack region
[16:11] <vorlon>  * prep discussions for Ubuntu Core sprint next week that I'll be attending remotely
[16:11] <vorlon>  * archive transitions
[16:11] <vorlon>  * admiring the work on the ARM64 Amazon roll-out
[16:12] <vorlon>  * code reviews (livecd-rootfs, netplan)
[16:12] <vorlon>  * next week:
[16:12] <vorlon> infinity not here
[16:12] <vorlon>   * working shifted hours to be in the same logical TZ as South Africa
[16:12] <vorlon> (done)
[16:12] <vorlon> rbalint:
[16:12] <rbalint> * adding more fixes to unattended-upgrades SRUs
[16:12] <rbalint> * u-u SRU verifications
[16:12] <rbalint> * bzr -> git conversion work
[16:12] <rbalint>   - announcing: email ubuntu-devel + http://balintreczey.hu/blog/migrating-from-bazaar-to-git-on-launchpad-just-got-easier/
[16:12] <rbalint>   - optionally include bzr metadata in git commit msgs
[16:12] <rbalint> * new round of u-u fixes for newly found issues
[16:12] <rbalint> * wireshark new upstream release 2.6.5
[16:12] <rbalint> * upgrade twisted to 18.9.0 upstream releaes in progress
[16:12] <rbalint> (done)
[16:12] <doko> - got some transitions around icu migrated, but new ones piling up again
[16:12] <doko> - more merges, ftbfs fixes
[16:12] <doko> - gcc 7.4 release candidate, binutils update
[16:12] <doko> - javahelper fix, causing some ftbfs in disco
[16:12] <doko> - first gcc-9 packages available, preparing a test rebuild for the xmas season
[16:12] <doko> (done)
[16:12] <cyphermox> vorlon: means you reviewed the netplan WPA Enterprise code?
[16:13] <vorlon> cyphermox: that one not yet, but I reviewed the tunnels, did you see my comments?
[16:13] <cyphermox> I didn't look at that yet
[16:13] <vorlon> fginther:
[16:14] <fginther> * Lots of partner meetings
[16:14] <fginther> * Working on an updated job posting
[16:14] <fginther> (done)
[16:14] <fginther> bdmurray:
[16:14] <bdmurray> updated daisy not to write strange releases to BucketMetadata thereby
[16:14] <bdmurray>   eventually cleaning up First and Last seen column on main page
[16:14] <bdmurray> modified whoopsie to write OOPS ID to .uploaded file (LP: #1582470)
[16:14] <bdmurray> modified sru-report to no longer list Kernel PPA section (LP: #1720248)
[16:14] <bdmurray> also modified it to highlight incomplete bug report (LP: #1720249)
[16:14] <bdmurray> bionic, cosmic sru verification of LP: #1797384
[16:14] <bdmurray> after overriding multiple nautilus false positive regressions had it fully
[16:15] <bdmurray>   phased for Ubuntu 18.04
[16:15] <bdmurray> xenial SRU verification of LP: #1797209
[16:15] <bdmurray> reported LP: #1805475 re u-r-u and computer-janitor
[16:15] <bdmurray> tested, uploaded removal of computer-janitor code from dist-upgrader
[16:15] <bdmurray> reported ubuntu-mate bug LP: #1805653
[16:15] <bdmurray> uploaded update-manager, u-r-u fixes for LP: #1798618 and LP: #1795024
[16:15] <bdmurray> fixed u-r-u using a negative number for free space needed LP: #1786484
[16:15] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:15] <vorlon> questions over status?
[16:16] <vorlon> [TOPIC] Bugs
[16:16] <vorlon> bdmurray:
[16:17] <bdmurray> bug 1805183
[16:17] <vorlon> hmm
[16:19] <bdmurray> I haven't investigated it but it might be worth having someone look at.
[16:20] <vorlon> agreed, putting it in the queueu
[16:20] <bdmurray> I had bug 1591427 languishing in some forgotten tab and tested it again with the 18.04 server, not subiquity, iso and was able to recreate it.
[16:21] <bdmurray> Maybe its not worth investigating with the move to subiquity.
[16:21] <juliank> wgat's the option doing?
[16:22] <bdmurray> -security is setup in Unattended-Upgrades Allowed-Origins
[16:23] <bdmurray> which conflicts with "no automatic updates"
[16:24] <vorlon> I think in terms of overall expected experience, the bug is in pkgsel's description of the option, not in the behavior
[16:24] <rbalint> i think the debconf question being ignored causes that
[16:24] <vorlon> i.e. we don't want the user to have an option in d-i that actually disables automatic security updates
[16:25] <bdmurray> ah, that makes sense
[16:25] <rbalint> the fix in LP: #1577215
[16:25] <vorlon> (so probably medium-low priority bug on the non-default installer)
[16:26] <bdmurray> cyphermox: is there any reason to keep you assigned?
[16:26] <sil2100> eh...
[16:26]  * sil2100 forgot about the meeting again
[16:26] <cyphermox> wat?
[16:26] <sil2100> I'm bad with meetings this week
[16:26] <bdmurray> if you were paying attention you'd know you were assigned. ;-)
[16:26] <vorlon> sil2100: hi :) want to give us status after bdmurray finishes up?
[16:27] <sil2100> I'll prep one real quick
[16:27] <cyphermox> well, if someone else wants to do the pksel part of it
[16:27] <bdmurray> bug 1803786 I gess we should just do it
[16:28] <vorlon> uh
[16:28] <vorlon> the 5 years beyond the 5 years is ESM
[16:28] <rbalint> is this public?
[16:28] <vorlon> so I don't think that should be advertised in ubuntu-support-status as the support length?
[16:28] <bdmurray> there's a url in the bug
[16:30] <vorlon> commented now on the bug, disagreeing with the proposed change
[16:30] <bdmurray> well the quote in the blog is misleading then as it doesn't mention ESM
[16:30] <vorlon> yes
[16:32] <chiluk> As someone on the outside, I had no clue it was just ESM.
[16:33] <chiluk> Good luck with that communication.
[16:33] <vorlon> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/11/16/%23ubuntu-release.html#t19:24
[16:34] <rbalint> so it is not official really
[16:35] <bdmurray> bug 1797335 looks interesting
[16:35] <juliank> wow
[16:35] <doko> that's open for a long time, untouched.
[16:36] <bdmurray> 2 months isn't a long time in Launchpad
[16:38] <bdmurray> Okay so somebody will comment on that bug then, yes?
[16:39] <vorlon> I guess so :)
[16:40] <bdmurray> bug 1801439 is the last one
[16:42] <bdmurray> that seems worth taking on
[16:44] <rbalint> bdmurray, the software-properties-qt is in universe
[16:44] <rbalint> does -gtk work ok?
[16:45] <bdmurray> I suspect it'll fail but will test it create a card if needed.
[16:45] <bdmurray> that's it
[16:46] <sil2100> Should I just paste my status update?
[16:46] <gaughen> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <doko> LINK http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/cosmic/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <gaughen> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <juliank> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/disco/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:46] <doko> LINK https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html
[16:47] <rbalint> i'm already on twisted
[16:47] <doko> currently doing java-common
[16:47] <doko> anyone automake-1.16? s390x only
[16:48] <doko> and ubuntu-image?
[16:49] <sil2100> I'm looking at ubuntu-image, I *fixed* it
[16:49] <sil2100> I mean, still might need some re-runs here and there
[16:49] <gaughen> sil2100, did you find some rand?
[16:49] <sil2100> But I did the 'xnox' thing to get rid of the py36 env thing
[16:49] <sil2100> gaughen: not yet!
[16:51] <doko> sil2100: then please give back the tests (I did it now for the pyyaml trigger)
[16:51] <vorlon> sil2100: yes; is that your status?
[16:53] <sil2100> - Preparing for trip next week
[16:53] <sil2100> - Kernel SRU reviews
[16:53] <sil2100> - SRU reviews and releases (not as many as usually though)
[16:53] <sil2100> - Testing ubuntu-image 1.5
[16:53] <sil2100>   * Pushing out a hotfix version to fix the strange py36 failure
[16:53] <sil2100> - Pi3 armhf/arm64 work:
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Lots of testing trying to figure out the reasoning for the images not booting
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Tweaked the uboot.env to fit the bigger kernel - stuff now boots
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Created a temporary livefs project for testing the whole build process
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Iterated on the cosmic image, making it build on livefs, pushing out missing fixes
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Iterating on the bionic image, finding missing pieces and making it build the image
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Checking on the spamming of firmware messages on the console on bionic
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Started cleaning up all the branches
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Released livecd-rootfs and u-boot to disco
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Preparing SRU paperwork + the SRU backports
[16:54] <sil2100>   * Prepared ubuntu-cdimage changes for the new raspi3 devices
[16:54] <sil2100> - Preparations for the sprint meetings next week
[16:54] <sil2100> (done)
[16:54] <sil2100> doko: yeah, I pushed the buttons already
[16:54] <sil2100> Will make sure those are passing now with the new version
[16:55] <vorlon> #endmeeting
[16:55] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Nov 29 16:55:13 2018 UTC.
[16:55] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-11-29-16.00.moin.txt
[16:55]  * tribaal waves hi to everyone
[16:55] <juliank> hey tribaal
[16:55] <tribaal> hey juliank
[17:02] <sil2100> o/
[17:03] <tribaal> sil2100: \o


[00:29] <kiko> hello hello
[00:29] <kiko> I have a user who's produced a package of gscrot in a PPA
[00:29] <kiko> was curious about what the procedure is for getting that sponsored into universe proper?
[00:30] <kiko> which MOTU wizard can point me to the proper procedure?
[00:31] <TheMuso> kiko: !revu
[00:31] <TheMuso> darn thats not availabe
[00:31] <kiko> TheMuso, so that's a good hint at least! tell me more. :)
[00:31] <TheMuso> kiko: Basically they upload it to revu, file a needs packaging bug and we take it from there
[00:31] <TheMuso> let me see if I can find the docs on the wiki.
[00:32] <kiko> TheMuso, would you care to give this user some help in doing it?
[00:32] <cbx33> james_w: thanks for the help
[00:32] <TheMuso> kiko: I can point them in the right direction at least.
[00:32] <kiko> james_w!
[00:32] <cbx33> but it's still crashing like a dog
[00:32] <kiko> TheMuso, thanks muchly
[00:32] <cbx33> :(
[00:32] <cbx33> I got it built successfully :)
[00:32] <cbx33> but it just crashes now on startup, worse than the installed version
[00:33] <TheMuso> kiko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[00:35] <cbx33> Hey TheMuso
[00:35] <kiko> TheMuso, the fantastically-nicked dasdsdsadsdasd is the user I'm telling you about
[00:35] <kiko> TheMuso, I'm given him that URL; dasdsdsadsdasd, if you have any questions, ask away
[00:35] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok, thanks
[00:35] <dasdsdsadsdasd> just reading the page
[00:40] <dasdsdsadsdasd> TheMuso, first of all thanks for your help
[00:41] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i think its the "packaging it yourself" part that i am interested in
[00:41] <pochu> !revu | kiko
[00:42] <dasdsdsadsdasd> where do i have to upload my package so that it is reviewed
[00:42] <kiko> dasdsdsadsdasd, to REVU, apparently -- pochu gave me a link there
[00:43] <TheMuso> pochu: Thanks, I thought it worked the other way. :p
[00:43] <pochu> !packagingguide | dasdsdsadsdasd
[00:43] <pochu> TheMuso: np :)
[00:43] <i4x> c y'all tomorrow! hugs..
[00:44] <pochu> superm1: hey mario, do you have any special opinions regarding a vostro 1310? :)
[00:45] <dasdsdsadsdasd> ok, thank you all for your help
[00:46] <dasdsdsadsdasd> i'll have a look at the pages tomorrow
[00:46] <dasdsdsadsdasd> cu, folks
[00:46] <kiko> sure thing
[01:48] <superm1> pochu, what are you looking for?
[02:05] <bddebian> Heya gang
[02:06] <crimsun> heya
[02:08] <bddebian> Hi crimsun
[02:27] <tbielawa> evening all
[02:34] <crimsun> hi.
[02:42] <crimsun> joejaxx: e-mail me the alsa-info.sh --debug output for your macbook, please.
[02:42] <joejaxx> crimsun: ok
[02:42] <joejaxx> crimsun: i will have to install hardy on it again
[02:43] <crimsun> joejaxx: desktop CD should suffice
[02:43] <joejaxx> ok
[03:01] <McRib> Is there any way to install mozilla-mplayer WITHOUT installing Firefox3?  Firefox3 is useless to me and I need the Mplayer plugin for Firefox2...
[03:03] <Flannel> McRib: Looks like any sort of browser will satisfy it, yes.
[03:03] <McRib> Flannel: I can't install it... it depends on FF3 and is installing it automatically
[03:04] <Flannel> McRib: install firefox2 first, then install it.  If you just try to install it, it'll grab the first one automatically.
[03:04] <McRib> Flannel: That's it... I already have FF2 installed.
[03:04] <Flannel> McRib: through package management?
[03:04] <McRib> Flannel: Throught apt, yeah.
[03:05] <bbyever> doest the Depends field have/should be the same as the Build-Depends-Indep?
[03:05] <Flannel> Hmm, thats an oversight on the mplayer package.  It depends on firefox or mozilla-browser or galeon or epiphany browser or konquerer.
[03:06] <Flannel> McRib: so, if you create a dummy package (or install a second browser from that list), you'll be able to install it no problems.
[03:07] <Flannel> McRib: You may also want to file a bug against said package to include firefox-2 in the depends (assuming its compatable)
[03:10] <McRib> Flannel: It's compatible... once I installed it, it worked in FF2 just fine (but it also had install FF3)
[03:16] <ScottK> bbyever: No.  Packages should only be listed in one or the other.  Depends is for arch dependent stuff and anything needed to satisfy clean in Debian rules.  Arch independent stuff that's not needed for clean goes in build-dep-indep.
[03:17] <bbyever> ScottK: ok, thanks
[03:20] <tbielawa> Has anyone on here successfully applied the perl shlibs patch to build an intrepid environment yet?
[03:21] <tbielawa> nm, it's a hash util patch deb #479202
[03:21] <jumpkic2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux-ubuntu-modules -- returns    " Error  keyword not valid or missing "
[03:22] <jumpkic2> the packages search appears to be broken
[03:23] <Flannel> No, that's always been like that.  p.u.c has a horrible, horrible search
[03:23] <Flannel> thats what happens if you search for two words
[03:24] <jumpkic2> Flannel: surely at least http://packages.ubuntu.com/linux or http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all should work
[03:25] <Flannel> jumpkic2: It works for me....
[03:26] <jumpkic2> gives me an error page every time
[03:26] <Flannel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all ?
[03:26] <jumpkic2> has that server got some kind of fancy geographical dns set-up or something?
[03:26] <Flannel> I guess it may
[03:26] <jumpkic2> does it resolve to this for you packages-vs.djpig.de (<IP_ADDRESS>)?
[03:27] <no0tic> why packages from hardy-updates have hardy-proposed in their changelog?
[03:27] <ajmitch> no0tic: because they are copied into -updates without changes after testing
[03:28] <Flannel> jumpkic2: it does
[03:28] <no0tic> ajmitch, shouldn't be better if the changelog would be changed importing them into -updates?
[03:29] <bbyever> ScottK: the uploaders field should be kept, right?
[03:29] <ScottK> bbyever: For a merge from Debian, yes.
[03:29] <ajmitch> no0tic: then various little things like gpg signatures wouldn't be valid
[03:30] <no0tic> ajmitch, ah, right
[03:30] <bbyever> ScottK: ok
[03:30] <no0tic> ajmitch, thanks for the clarification
[03:30] <ScottK> bbyever: It's generally better to ask the channel than a specific person.  You're more likely to get a timely answer.
[03:30] <bbyever> ScottK: ok
[03:31] <ajmitch> no0tic: a re-upload just for the distro in the changelog would then require a rebuild, etc
[03:54] <ScottK> sommer: avscan has a new upstream release for clamav 0.93
[03:55] <sommer> ScottK: cool, is that one going to be around for intrepid?
[03:55] <sommer> since there's clamtk and klamav and all
[03:56] <ScottK> Why not.  I'm sending a mention to the Debian maintainer about it now.  Avscan is actually a rather newer program than some of the others.
[03:58] <sommer> ah, maybe I was thinking of another app, but it seemed like the code wasn't as polished as the others... but then again I'm probably thinking of the default dapper version
[03:58] <ScottK> The dapper one was very immature.  It was very new then.
[03:58] <RoAkSoAx> does anyone know if this debdiff needs filtering? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10861/
[03:58] <sommer> ah, I'll give it another chance then :-)
[03:58] <ScottK> sommer: How is this for confidence inspiring from the klamav developer on klamav-users in response to complaints about integration with clamav 0.93: "Note to self: start reading ClamAV release notes again!"
[03:59] <sommer> lol, whoa
[03:59] <sommer> did you take that survey they sent out this morning?
[04:00] <ScottK> What survey?
[04:01] <ScottK> YokoZar: Did you see the Debian wine RFH?
[04:02] <sommer> ScottK: it was sent to the clamav-devel list at 5:59 by nigel horne... the survey seems closed now
[04:02] <sommer> ScottK: I can forward you the message if you'd like... the gist is that the clamav RC release didn't get tested enough and wouldn't build on some systems, I guess
[04:03] <ScottK> sommer: Ah.  No.  I guess I'm only subscribed to their announce list, not the devel list.
[04:03] <ScottK> sommer: It's fine.
[04:03] <ScottK> They mentioned that on IRC.  They felt the RC wasn't getting tested, so there was no point in an RC2, they might as well release.
[04:03] <sommer> heh, I was the opposite until this morning... their devel list is very low traffic
[04:03] <sommer> ah
[04:04] <ScottK> sommer: That's when I decided for SURE I didn't want to push 0.93 into Hardy.
[04:04] <sommer> heh makes sense, seems to be working fine from my testing though
[04:05] <sommer> ScottK: looks like gurlchecker is suffering from the "maxratio" change as well
[04:05]  * sommer looking for patch
[04:06] <ApOgEE-> how to fix the b43legacy problem on hardy kernel 2.6.24-16-generic?
[04:06] <ApOgEE-> any way to trace the error?
[04:06] <ajmitch> ScottK: that doesn't quite sound like sane release policy
[04:06] <ScottK> ApOgEE-: I'm guessing you want either #ubuntu for support or #ubuntu-kernel for kernel development.
[04:07] <ApOgEE-> issuing sudo modprobe b43legacy will freeze my laptop
[04:07] <ScottK> ajmitch: clamav is not a particularly sane upstream from the way we tend to view things.
[04:07] <ajmitch> I can see why they're not at 1.0 yet
[04:08] <ScottK> ajmitch: They also change config parameters without warning or even leaving them deprecated for a release.
[04:08] <ScottK> Yeh.
[04:08] <ajmitch> building tools for themselves
[04:08] <ScottK> ajmitch: 100% of the packages that build-dep on libclamav-deb FTBFS without patching in the new version.
[04:09] <ScottK> I think building code without a lot of thought for maintenance and hanging onto the "we're not 1.0 yet, so the API doesn't have to be stable".
[04:09] <ScottK> ...excuse
[04:09] <ajmitch> because noone else would possibly be using clamav
[04:10] <sommer> heh, the kicker is the api isn't even that complicated... load virus db, scan file, unload db
[04:10] <ajmitch> yet they still manage to constantly break that?
[04:10] <ScottK> Yep.
[04:10] <ajmitch> impressive
[04:11] <ajmitch> so when is it going into main?
[04:11] <ScottK> I'm actually planning on talking to kees about that at UDS.  Insane or not, I think Ubuntu Server really needs a supported anti-virus package.
[04:12] <ajmitch> certainly
[04:12] <ajmitch> I wasn't completely joking :)
[04:12] <ScottK> Of course if it was in Main I wouldn't get away with half the risks I'm taking on keeping it current.
[04:12] <ajmitch> like abusing backports?
[04:13] <ScottK> No.  That'd be fine.  It's the pushing stuff from backports to updates that'd be frowned on.
[04:13] <ScottK> ajmitch: Look at clamav in Dapper.
[04:13] <ajmitch> I don't think I want to
[04:15] <ScottK> Then you certainly don't want to look at the ~dozen other rdepends that needed upating too.
[04:15] <ScottK> And you absolutely don't want to look at the one new package we had to add.
[04:15] <greg-g> calc: any plans of getting a ppa for OO.o 3.0beta?
[04:15] <ajmitch> it could be worse, I'm sure
[04:16] <ScottK> But so far I only broke one custom 3rd party app and annoyed one user who lost some configs AFAIK and wiped out about two dozen open CVEs.
[04:16] <ScottK> I'd call that a fair trade.
[04:17] <ajmitch> reasonable, yes
[04:20] <ffm>  Hey, anyone in the mood for a package REVU? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=thinkcspy2
[04:21] <sommer> ScottK: doh, seems that gurlchecker's site is unavailable: http://gurlchecker.labs.libre-entreprise.org/  can you get to it?
[04:28] <ScottK> sommer: No.  I can't get to it either.  Google's cached page is from last week, so I imagine it's temporary.
[04:28] <sommer> okay, I'll try again later... moving on to havp
[04:31] <sommer> ScottK: looks like havp-0.88 supports 0.93, debian is at 0.87... can you request an update?
[04:31] <ScottK> Can I have a link please?
[04:32] <sommer> http://www.server-side.de/
[04:32] <ScottK> Thanks.
[04:33] <sommer> I just did an apt-get source in a sid chroot, didn't actually check the debian site
[04:34] <ScottK> http://packages.qa.debian.org/h/havp.html
[04:34] <ScottK> You had it right.
[04:35] <sommer> ooo, that's a good link, thanks
[04:37] <ScottK> sommer: Get to know and love the PTS.
[04:38] <sommer> heh, it'd definitely on the agenda :)
[05:32] <tbielawa> nothing like cleaning the carpet off your heat sink to make your build stop freezing your system :)
[06:23] <YokoZar> ScottK: yes
[06:59] <cbx33> hey anyone alive in here?
[07:01] <RAOF> braaaaaaains!
[07:01] <cbx33> RAOF: hey
[07:01] <cbx33> well anyone who is alive
[07:01] <RAOF> Heya :)
[07:04] <cbx33> well
[07:04] <cbx33> I was hoping to fix up kdenlive
[07:04] <cbx33> you think the best way is to get the package sources and update the source trees?
[07:07] <dholbach> good morning
[07:14] <nixternal> mornin' dholbach
[07:14] <nixternal> sorry I was afk yesterday morning
[07:14] <dholbach> hiya nixternal
[07:14] <dholbach> don't worry :)
[07:15] <nixternal> we had a nice spring storm blow through, had the window open, and I wasn't moving out of bed :)
[07:16] <dholbach> oh :)
[07:23] <ajmitch> hello dholbach
[07:23] <RAOF> cbx33: By update the source trees, you mean?    Do you know if upstream is releasing anytime soon?
[07:36]  * RoAkSoAx finally has his cluster working =)
[07:37] <cbx33> noidea
[07:37] <cbx33> no idea
[07:37] <cbx33> right off to work
[07:37] <cbx33> bbl
[07:37] <RAOF> Have fun!
[07:49] <dholbach> RAOF: seems like upstream fixed a bunch of crashers in SVN - so I'd rather somebody cherry-picked them and rolled them in a SRU if they fix the crashes
[07:50] <RAOF> dholbach: Ah, right.
[07:56] <Hobbsee> RAOF: did you want to see it?
[08:01] <tbielawa> woohoo. the new perl version has been released into the hardy repos
[08:01] <tbielawa> I can finally make an intrepid pbuilder
[08:16] <RAOF> Hobbsee: See what?    Can you still _buy_ dialup access?
[08:18] <tbielawa> ewww
[08:19] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Why, exactly, are you writing _essays_ for CompSci?
[08:20] <pochu> superm1: something to carry to uds... I have nothing but my desktop right now
[08:20] <pochu> superm1: so something good a good battery life, portable and cheap ;)
[08:20] <Hobbsee> RAOF: NFI
[08:21] <Hobbsee> RAOF: it's a networking unit, which doesn't require prior knowledge in computing, for some reason.
[08:21] <Hobbsee> yet, they don't actually tell people what routers and switches and hubs, etc, actualy are used for
[08:21] <superm1> pochu, i'm a fan of the xps 1330 personally for something really small, portable, cheap
[08:21] <Hobbsee> nor show what any look like
[08:22] <superm1> but no experience working with the vostro.  i've been working with the inspiron and xps series portables mainly
[08:22] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Right.  General compsci craziness, then.
[08:22] <Hobbsee> RAOF: apparently we get this waffly crap if it doesn't require actual code.  :(
[08:23] <superm1> pochu, i'll probably bring one to UDS
[08:23] <Hobbsee> superm1: i'm envious.
[08:23] <Hobbsee> those are nice machines.
[08:23] <RAOF> Hobbsee: Which is why they should always ask for actual code ;)
[08:23] <Hobbsee> yes, well
[08:24] <Hobbsee> anywya, time to finally go into uni
[08:24] <superm1> Hobbsee, yeah and they will work out of the box for everything on 8.04 cept for HDMI audio and modem
[08:55] <cbx33> ping Lutin
[08:56] <Lutin> cbx33: pong.
[08:56] <Lutin> (leaving in a couple seconds)
[08:58] <Lutin> cbx33: I'm off for 4 days, please drop me an email. I'll answer asap
[09:00] <cbx33> Lutin: wait
[09:00] <cbx33> please
[09:00] <cbx33> just a quick question
[09:00] <cbx33> dang it......I guess he left already
[09:01] <tbielawa> fail :(
[09:01] <cbx33> Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[09:01] <cbx33> pr0g80X.vid ep 0.3 is doomed
[09:01] <tbielawa> i think I removed that virus from a machine at work yesterday
[09:01] <cbx33> heheha
[09:02] <cbx33> you calling my videocast a virus
[09:02] <cbx33> :p
[09:02] <tbielawa> I kid I kid :)
[09:02] <cbx33> yeh yeh, you'd better
[09:02] <tbielawa> be happy, intrepid pbuilders should work now
[09:02] <tbielawa> go
[09:02] <tbielawa> rejoice
[09:02] <cbx33> i care not about those
[09:02] <tbielawa> :(
[09:02] <cbx33> I only care about getting a working kdenlive in hardy
[09:03] <tbielawa> it doesn't work?
[09:03] <cbx33> no it doesn't
[09:03] <tbielawa> at all?
[09:04] <cbx33> no
[09:04] <cbx33> it crashes soo much it's unusable
[09:04] <cbx33> I just upgraded from Gutsy
[09:04] <cbx33> and it's .... well I can't produce the next episode
[09:04] <cbx33> and I'm getting pushed by a lot of people to get it out the door
[09:05] <tbielawa> pretty good incentive to make kdenlive work then I suppose
[09:06] <cbx33> indeed
[09:06] <cbx33> so I'm trying
[09:06] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/
[09:06] <tbielawa> best of luck to you
[09:06] <cbx33> I've posted twice baout it in the last 24 hours
[09:06] <cbx33> :D
[09:11] <tbielawa> I hope that goes well
[09:11] <tbielawa> i'm going to sleep
[09:26] <slytherin> hi, I am not sure which is the correct channel to ask. ubottu got removed from #ubuntu-in sometime this week. Whom should I ask for help?
[09:26] <pochu> superm1: how does it perform with the battery (6/9 cells). I've googled a bit and it looks like 5/6 hours with the 9 cells one, is that right?
[09:27] <pochu> (with intel onboard graphics)
[09:27] <wgrant> slytherin: #ubuntu-ops
[09:27] <slytherin> wgrant: thanks
[09:36] <emgent> morning
[10:34] <slytherin> anybody other than me getting this error - The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:35] <\sh> slytherin, yes...it's the .31 server leningradskaya
[10:35] <\sh> slytherin, try the .45 or .46
[10:35] <\sh> slytherin, without using a.u.c.
[10:35] <slytherin> \sh: I do not understand.
[10:35] <\sh> slytherin, nslookup archive.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <\sh> you will see 3 RR servers
[10:36] <slytherin> \sh: Oh. Thanks
[10:36] <\sh> x.y.z.31/.45/.46
[10:36] <\sh> if you check the ips directly, you see that it always defaults .31 in your case...(in mine too)
[10:36] <\sh> slytherin, use .45 or .46 depends
[10:37] <slytherin> \sh: trying .45, lets see what happens
[10:46] <\sh> slytherin, you can check it when you http://<ip>/ubuntu if tehre is a lock file a la "Archive Update in Progress <hostname>.canonical.com> so the archive server is busy doing updates
[10:47] <\sh> slytherin, and .31 is in the round robin list the first server..so it will mostly the prefered server, but it should change, if your ISP doesn't do hostname caching and destroys the RR idea
[10:47] <slytherin> \sh: Ok. .45 worked without problem.
[11:47] <pochu> is it significant the increase in energy efficiency (and thus in battery life) from a 65nm processor to a 45 one? (core2duo T5550 to a T8100) ? I guess it's worth 50 euros?
[12:00] <norsetto> asac: what do you think of bug 228044? This is (a problem) commonto many plugins I guess.
[12:03] <albert23> pochu: t8100 has Intel Virtualization Technology, so you can use kvm. T5550 does not have that. For me that would be worth the €50. Maybe for you too?
[12:05] <asac> norsetto: if our build works with ffox2 we should fix it ... further mplayer-plugin should be installed in /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins ... not sure if that is done atm
[12:07] <asac> commented
[12:08] <norsetto> asac: ok, thx
[12:12] <asac> norsetto: iirc you were the right contact: could you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jazzva and tell me what i shall tell jazzva about his motu application? he didn't do much merges and would be willing to do a few more in the next few weeks.
[12:13] <pochu> albert23: possibly... OTOH I could still use VirtualBox, although that has a lower performance. So given the Intel VT, the better processor and the better energy usage (because that's right, isn't it?) I think I'll go for the T8100
[12:14] <norsetto> asac: yes, he was away for a while but he is back now. He should definetively do more merges/syncs (perhaps he hasn't documented them all). If he wants, I have a couple of updates to be done (bug 226195).
[12:15] <asac> norsetto: i would appreciate if you could assemble a list of merges he can do in the next week. he does a great job in the extensions team and i need him to have  upload powers asap
[12:15] <asac> s/next week/next weeks/
[12:16] <norsetto> asac: I would say all those for which the previous uploader is not with us anymore (gothicx, xxxxx, etc.). There are about 20 or so in the queue
[12:16] <albert23> pochu: I don't know about the energy. I have a 65nm T7500  with Intel graphics and I am happy with it's battery live (>4 hours)
[12:17] <asac> norsetto: do you have names you have in mind? i can forward that list to him and he can pick deliberately then
[12:18] <pochu> albert23: 6 cells?
[12:18] <albert23> pochu: 9 cells
[12:18] <pochu> ah, ok
[12:20] <norsetto> asac: Marco Rodrigues, William Lima, Barry deFreese (he usually doesn't mind)
[12:21]  * wgrant has a heart attack.
[12:21] <wgrant> Adobe people on the ML!?
[12:22] <norsetto> asac: bug 226195 would be good for him since gecko-mediaplayer is a browser extension
[12:23] <asac> norsetto: ok, i can reassign the bug. do you know who pikini is?
[12:23] <emgent> heya wgrant :)
[12:23] <norsetto> asac: no idea, he assigned it to himself and hasn't done anything in 5 days
[12:23] <emgent> norsetto: o/
[12:24] <norsetto> emgent: o/
[12:50] <\sh> does anyone know if zope3 now supports python 2.5 in debian? ,-)
[13:56] <pochu> superm1: I got disconnected. when you're back, I'd be interested if you know how the 6 cells battery perform in the xps :)
[13:57] <superm1> pochu, i'm flying tonight, so i'll bring one with me and see how far I can push it
[13:57] <txwikinger> what is again the command which I can use to test order of version names?
[13:58] <superm1> i'll be doing some compiles and what not too
[13:58] <superm1> so hopefully good indicator
[13:58] <joaopinto> txwikinger, dpkg --compare-versions
[13:59] <txwikinger> joaopinto: yes ... thank you :)
[14:07] <DRebellion> I am trying to set up an intrepid build enviroment for pbuilder under hardy, however the 'create' command fails lacking a debootstrap script. Looking about on the internet, it appears I must download and install the intrepid version? I am not sure which of these I need: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[14:18] <joaopinto> DRebellion, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/debootstrap
[14:18] <DRebellion> joaopinto, thanks
[14:21] <DRebellion> Then to create the intrepid env just: << sudo pbuilder create --distribution intrepid >> ?
[14:46] <pochu> superm1: great, thank you :)
[14:55] <norsetto> asac: will we have firefox 2 in intrepid?
[14:55] <asac> norsetto: we will keep it until firefox 3 is final + one or two more updates
[14:55] <asac> then we will auto upgrade
[14:56] <norsetto> asac: ok, I will fix bug 228044 for intrepid then
[14:56] <asac> great
[14:57] <asac> if you want feel free to prepare an sru with the part i mentioned too
[14:57] <norsetto> asac: sru are a pain, but I will try to overcome my feelings ...
[14:57] <asac> i'd be supportive to mileston this 8.04.1
[14:58] <asac> norsetto: just come up with the patch ... i can guide this in then ;)
[14:58] <norsetto> asac: okki
[15:04] <norsetto> asac: its not very clear to me, are firefox-2 plugins for hardy/intrepid in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ or /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ ?
[15:08] <asac> the are in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[15:09] <asac> and ffox 3 plugins should go to xulrunner-addons/plugins
[15:12] <bddebian> heya gang
[15:13] <norsetto> heya bddebian
[15:13] <bddebian> Hi norsetto
[15:18] <slicer> Hi. I've been talking a lot with the debian-voip team lately, and since both Hardy and Debian unstable offer almost identical mumble packages, we've been thinking about merging them. Thing is that there are tiny differences between what suitable defaults are in Ubuntu and Debian. For example, the default audio subsystem in Ubuntu should be PulseAudio, while in Debian it should be ALSA. We've discussed adding a call to lsb_release in the rules file to distin
[16:22] <Iulian> Hey
[16:23] <bddebian> Hi Iulian
[16:26] <Iulian> Hello bddebian
[17:18] <no0tic> sudo pbuilder create --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/intrepid.tgz --distribution intrepid
[17:18] <no0tic> W: Failure trying to run: chroot /var/cache/pbuilder/build/16595/. dpkg --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[17:19] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, install a pbuilder for hardy and then upgrade to intrepid
[17:19] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, how?
[17:19] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, it creates a tgz under /var/cache/pbuilder
[17:19] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, may I uncompress it and chroot?
[17:20] <james_w> "pbuilder login --save-after-login" will allow you to upgrade
[17:20] <no0tic> james_w, thanks
[17:22] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, i did this: sudo pbuilder create --distribution hardy --othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy universe multiverse"
[17:22] <RoAkSoAx> and then: sudo pbuilder update --distribution intrepid --override-config
[17:22] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, I changed /etc/pbuilderrc
[17:22] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, ok
[17:23] <RoAkSoAx> hi james_w =)
[17:23] <james_w> hi RoAkSoAx
[17:23] <RoAkSoAx> how ya doing?
[17:23] <james_w> good, you?
[17:24] <RoAkSoAx> good, working on my thesis xD
[17:24] <ember> someone should sync the perl on NEW to fix that
[17:26] <Jazzva> Any idea what causes this multiple diff markers in files? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10963/
[17:26] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, it doesn't work :/ some packages have unmet dep
[17:26] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, pastebin?
[17:27] <no0tic> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10964/
[17:28] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, i had the same unmet dependencies but the pbuilder was upgraded successfully
[17:28] <james_w> Jazzva: that looks like conflicts of conflicts or something.
[17:28] <james_w> Is there any chance that there were conflicts stored in the original file?
[17:29] <james_w> otherwise it may be a bug in MoM (this is from there right?)
[17:29] <Jazzva> DaD...
[17:29] <Jazzva> I thought I could use any :).
[17:30] <james_w> might be a bug there then :-)
[17:30] <Jazzva> I suppose it wasn't uploaded to the archives with this, since it's part of configure file. Dunno if it would build with those left :).
[17:30] <Jazzva> james_w: Ok, I'll report a bug, so someone can check it... Thanks for the help :)
[17:31] <james_w> yeah, doesn't sound likely.
[17:35] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, any luck?
[17:36] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, recreating all from scratch
[17:38] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, no
[17:38] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, same error
[17:41] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, let me try
[17:42] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, wait, probably it's a problem of the italian mirror
[17:44] <pochu> Jazzva: is that conflict also in MoM?
[17:51] <Jazzva> pochu: I don't know. On the phone atm, so I still haven't downloaded the sources...
[17:52] <pochu> ah, ok
[17:53] <pochu> I bet the conflict isn't in Liferea in the archive... I uploaded it :-)
[17:54] <Jazzva> pochu: I'm sure too... My guess it would FTBFS if the conflict was there :)
[17:54] <Jazzva> pochu: Finished the call, so I will check liferea from mom now
[17:57] <Jazzva> DaD's buggy... Sources from MoM are fine.
[17:57]  * pochu hopes the Comments feature from DaD will be merged into MoM soon :)
[18:00] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, ok, it worked!
[18:01] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, which mirror are you using now?
[18:01] <no0tic> RoAkSoAx, no mirrors archive.ubuntu.com
[18:01] <sebner> pochu: damn you :P
[18:01] <RoAkSoAx> no0tic, ok, i'm updating my pbuilder again and see what happens=)
[18:02] <pochu> sebner: heh, I've already seen that before! Dejavu!! ;-)
[18:03] <sebner> pochu: I'm damning you as often as possible ^^. You may remember that we talked about libbeagle? ;)
[18:03] <pochu> sebner: heh, lol
[18:03] <pochu> it's already synced but currently FTBFS due to pygtk not being installable...
[18:04] <pochu> I haven't created an intrepid chroot yet though
[18:04] <sebner> pochu: I know. But you may remember that I told you that I opened a sync but and just waiting for a dep or something similar ;)
[18:05] <pochu> yeah, but why wait for a sponsor to check it if I can ask seb to sync it for me? ;-)
[18:06]  * pochu apologizes to sebner :-)
[18:06] <pochu> sebner: I forgot about it, TBH... my mind is so bad ;)
[18:07] <sebner> pochu: ... I don't have a problem if you want to do that but if you say to me that this is ok then I have a problem ;)
[18:07] <sebner> pochu: ya. np. just wanted to damn you :P
[18:10] <pochu> sebner: I suck :(
[18:11] <sebner> pochu: np. it's just that such a case happened the 2nd time to me ^^
[18:12] <pochu> heh
[18:12] <pochu> I hope I didn't cause the first one too :)
[18:12] <sebner> pochu: no no. :)
[18:13] <pochu> ;)
[18:13] <pochu> hi mok0_
[18:13] <sebner> hi mok0_ :)
[18:13] <mok0_> hi pochu
[18:30] <joh> Hi, could someone review my package at revu? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=alarm-clock-applet thanks!
[22:02] <norsetto> anyone in motu_sru is feeling bored?
[22:04] <norsetto> !jdong
 jdong: yes, but you're FULL OF CRACK!
[22:10] <Jazzva> pochu: I'm having a little problem here. Build-Depends state dpatch is used, we put our patches in 00list, and debian uses series (which is for quilt, iirc). Should I dismiss series file, and prepare dpatches from quilt patches, in case we need to apply them?
[22:10] <Jazzva> (that's the problem in liferea)
[22:11] <Jazzva> And I'm puzzled why quilt wasn't mentioned in the Build-Depends... :/
[22:12] <geser> Jazzva: Build-Depends: autotools-dev, quilt (>=0.40-1), [from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/liferea/liferea_1.4.15-1.diff.gz ]
[22:13] <sebner> Jazzva: if debian uses quilt we want to keep it rather then replacing it with dpatch ;)
[22:13] <sebner> geser: hiho. What does MC "Call" means?
[22:13] <ajmitch> sebner: it was originally the MC talking on skype or similar
[22:14] <sebner> ajmitch: so similar to Meeting
[22:14] <geser> sebner: yes
[22:14] <geser> the mc members meet and "talk" about open applications and other business
[22:15] <sebner> geser: cool. just don't see the result of the talk ^^
[22:18] <geser> sebner: iirc persia wanted to process you on friday (if no other mc member does it till then)
[22:18] <Jazzva> geser: Strange, it didn't report quilt here: Build-Depends: autotools-dev, dpatch, debhelper (>= 5), and it's the same version... And we already used dpatch befote. This is the source pulled from MoM...
[22:18] <ajmitch> 'process'. that sounds worrying
[22:18] <sebner> ajmitch: hmm? ^^
[22:19] <ajmitch> nevermind :)
[22:19] <sebner> geser: ah. no worries. wasn't specially interested in me. just I looked at the ML and the Minutes are missing :)
[22:20] <geser> sebner: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/motu-council/2008-May/001113.html are the minutes from the "MC Call" from wednesday
[22:20] <norsetto> jazzva: you know you have been assigned to bug 228044?
[22:21] <sebner> geser: hm? I saw that but there are only listed the agenda items and the attendens and nothing more
[22:22] <Jazzva> norsetto: You mean bug 226195?
[22:22] <geser> nothing more didn't happen
[22:22] <sebner> geser: kk. thx
[22:22] <norsetto> sebner: there was a great debate if they should accept you in the contributors team which ended with a vote of 19864 against and 0 for ....
[22:22] <geser> Jazzva: I guess it's because MoM could merge that part from the ubuntu delta
[22:22] <norsetto> jazzva: yes, that one
[22:23] <geser> Jazzva: look at the unmodified debian diff.gz
[22:23] <sebner> norsetto: rofl. so the comments by them are faked :P
[22:23] <Jazzva> geser: Ah... So, you think I should prepare quilt patches from our dpatches?
[22:23] <Jazzva> norsetto: Yes, I got the mail today. I'm planning to look into it.
[22:23] <geser> Jazzva: yes, as that will make merging in the future easier (you need to convert them once)
[22:23] <norsetto> jazzva: ok, let me know as you proceed
[22:24] <ajmitch> norsetto: do you think I could get into the teams? I need more icons on LP
[22:24] <norsetto> ajmitch: we could have a team together with a kiwi icon :-)
[22:24] <Jazzva> norsetto: Ok...
[22:24] <ajmitch> well we've already got an icon for the ubuntu-nz team
[22:25] <norsetto> ajmitch: yeah, but our team will be special, its gonna be kiwi (the fruit) not kiwi (the bird)
[22:25] <sebner> lol
[22:26] <sebner> ajmitch: the universe-contributors teams needs an icon ;)
[22:26] <ajmitch> norsetto: oh, right
[22:28]  * jdong volunteers persia
[22:28] <jdong> oh the graphical thumbnail thing. not ... never mind
[22:39] <RainCT> a little off-topic question.. "egrep -r "blocked"  .lyrics/* | cut -d':' -f 1 | xargs rm". How do I have to change there so that it considers all words as a single argument (so that the rm works if the filenames contain spaces)?
[22:40] <jdong> RainCT: xargs -i rm '{}'
[22:40] <RainCT> jdong: thanks. so the {} is replaced with whatever value it is, or how does that work?
[22:42] <jdong> RainCT: correct. -i means replace {} with filename
[22:42] <jdong> RainCT: -I allows you to specify the placeholder character too
[22:43] <crimsun> another way is to set IFS to something else.
[22:44] <crimsun> use whatever makes your brain hurt the least.
[22:44] <RainCT> thanks :)
[22:44] <RainCT> so, gonna go. good night
[22:45] <sebner> RainCT: gn8 =)
[22:54] <sebner> gn8 folks


[21:55] <Elliria> Hey there, how do I tell which release a bug affects if I'm looking at a bug report on Launchpad?


[23:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Bionic Beta 1] (20180306.1) has been added
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[02:25] <bel_ki> Глазные эксперты советуют вам отводить взгляд от вашего экрана каждые 20 минут. Время выйти на улицу и почувствовать ветер.
[02:26] <knome> !ru | bel_ki
[02:37] <bel_ki> sorry wrong channel
[02:37] <knome> no worries
[04:27] <J_B0N3> There are some major inconsistencies with the natural scrolling feature when enabled through the GUI.  Some applications scroll correctly and some don't.  It's really confusing and frustrating.  I found a fix that works well here: https://robotsfuckyeahalloneword.svbtle.com/universal-natural-scrolling-in-xubuntu-1604 .  Is there any way to check if this bug has been filed?  I would be happy to try and create a fix if necessary.
[04:54] <xubuntu13w> I am trying to install xubuntu 16.04 but its asking userid and pass
[05:13] <xangua> Ubuntu and Ubuntu
[05:14] <xangua> That's the password for the live ISO account, but it's very weird you start in the login screen
[05:37] <Unit193> xangua: No password generally, and 'xubuntu'.  It's usually the name of the flavor.
[05:39] <sabrehagen> i'm on xubuntu 16.04. i have three monitors. sometimes two of my monitors don't power back on after the computer sleeps. i can force them back on via xrandr though https://gist.github.com/sabrehagen/66da13e33820788270015305d8a385f9
[05:39] <sabrehagen> is there somewhere i can view the 'monitor' logs to look for any error messages?
[05:39] <sabrehagen> *to find out why my monitors aren't turning back on after sleep
[09:38] <TXX> Hey guys, i have xubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (Xenial Xerus), i have a problem with key agents, i am trying to use ssh-add with the -c option, forcing a prompt for input. However, the default env variable for SSH_AGENT and SSH_AUTH_SOCK is being overwritten by a process i can't find
[10:40] <Lealu> I need help accessing windows computers on my local network, novice to linux so a reference I can refer back to often would be best, thanks in advance
[11:08] <knome> Lealu, you'll want to use "samba"
[11:08] <knome> !samba
[11:08] <knome> the tool "gigolo" can be used for managing the connections in xubuntu
[11:09] <knome> (others too, obviously)
[11:09] <Lealu> looks like good places to start, Thank You ubottu
[11:10] <knome> ubottu is just a bot, but you're welcome ;)
[11:10] <knome> ^ there you go
[11:10] <Lealu> Thank You too knome, I misstook gigolo as WiFi only tool, I'll looke closer
[11:11] <knome> nope, network-manager is the wifi tool, gigolo is for connections like samba, ssh, and more
[11:11] <StayaSinic> if you need configure samba - you can use  system-config-samba
[11:11] <StayaSinic> nice gui for this
[11:12] <Lealu> StayaSinc, is that something I need to install?
[11:12] <StayaSinic> yep
[11:12] <StayaSinic> this utill
[11:13] <Lealu> Thanks, comming from windows I'd love to have a GUI utility
[11:13] <StayaSinic> sudo apt install system-config-samba
[11:14] <StayaSinic> this tool for share local resourses (samba configuratir)
[11:16] <StayaSinic> if you need to connect to windows - you can use thunar. just write in toolbar -  smb:// ip windows pc (or other)
[11:18] <Lealu> I'll give it all a try, this will be the 6th clean install on my laptop figuring things out   :)
[11:19] <StayaSinic> don't worry. you just need some knows aboun linux and you can use it well :3
[11:26] <Lealu> :)
[11:31] <xubuntu85w> hello
[11:31] <xubuntu85w> can you guys help me
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !help | xubuntu85w
[12:18] <TXX> !patience
[13:56] <xubuntu85i> hello!
[14:08] <knome> hello
[15:05] <tsglove> o/
[15:54] <kwomp> Hi! I installed Xubuntu on an more or less old little laptop to use it for youtube, facebook, basic internet browsing. So far i like it BUT firefox is very very slow. it is possible to listen to music via youtube but watching a video isn't (sometimes i can see about 5 frames per minute). also scrolling on facebook is a pain. i decreased the swap use following some guide. i think it made a small difference but still its very slow. any i
[15:54] <kwomp> thanks a lot
[15:55] <cfhowlett> how much ram??
[15:55] <kwomp> 1gb
[15:55] <kwomp> (i think so, i cant find systeminformation here)
[15:56] <cfhowlett> kwomp, even for xubuntu that's pretty minimal and firefox can be quite resource hungry.
[15:56] <cfhowlett> I suggest 1. install lxde (or lubuntu) and 2. a lighter browser
[15:56] <cfhowlett> !browser
[15:57] <kwomp> is lxde another operating system?
[15:57] <kwomp> wich lighter browser would you recommend?
[15:58] <cfhowlett> no, just the desktop environment.  lubuntu uses lxde and is also optimized for older/slower hardware.
[15:59] <kwomp> okay. i thought that was the reason i choose xubuntu.
[15:59] <cfhowlett> I think midori is supposed to be the lightest
[15:59] <cfhowlett> xubuntu is good, but it's not optimized in the same manner that lubuntu is
[16:00] <cfhowlett> but test for yourself.  sudo apt install lxde        then logout.  choose lxde/lubuntu session at the boot screen and login
[16:00] <kwomp> okay i will try this. thank you
[16:00] <cfhowlett> if you like what you see and want the full meal deal, you can easily delete xubuntu-desktop and install lubunt-desktop
[17:34] <glitchd> can anyone clue me in on how to change the background of the lock screen in 16.04?
[17:44] <xangua> Maybe with light DM settings
[17:48] <glitchd> checked the gui, have correct background set, however it does not display on the lock screen. just a blue background.
[18:05] <flocculant> glitchd: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2337343 might help you
[18:05] <glitchd> flocculant, thx ill have a look at it
[18:06] <glitchd> flocculant, i believe that page is talking about the login screen, however my login screen is working/displaying correctly. my problem is specifically the background of the lock screen.
[18:07] <flocculant> oh sorry
[18:08] <glitchd> flocculant, np thx for the effort
[18:08] <flocculant> glitchd: afaik lock screen with lightdm is black
[18:09] <flocculant> never seen a way to change that
[18:09] <glitchd> flocculant, nope, its a blue wavy picture on my install
[18:09] <glitchd> this is the first time ive not been able to have it the same as by login screen background
[18:18] <matteo_96> Buonasera, chi fornirebbe assistenza per un problema con la sospensione in Xubuntu?
[18:19] <matteo_96> Hi, who can help me to resolve a problem with xubuntu suspension?
[18:37] <xubuntu82w> Anyone have a fix for thunar crashing when moving/renaming files?
[20:21] <jakubflisikowski> hello
[20:21] <knome> hello
[20:21] <jakubflisikowski> can someone tell me if i can run android studio on the xubuntu?
[20:22] <xangua> Why wouldn't you?
[20:23] <knome> their system requirements say KDE or GNOME desktop, but i assume that means you'll have to have either Qt or GTK+
[20:24] <jakubflisikowski> i heard that it needs KDE
[20:24] <jakubflisikowski> oh
[20:25] <jakubflisikowski> that doesnt sound that bad
[20:26] <jakubflisikowski> cause i don't want to pass on the lightweight system
[20:26] <jakubflisikowski> thank You :)
[22:35] <xubuntu48w> hello?
[22:36] <xubuntu48w> Im having a problem with xubuntu at the moment. Every time I am using the laptop, it crashes randomly after an hour or so. I tried using the REISUB solution and never worked until today
[22:37] <xubuntu48w> but I am unsure what the error is in the logs
[23:14] <nullopstop> <3


[12:13] <wgrant> cjwatson: Thanks for the reviews.
[12:14] <wgrant> cjwatson: (that last one has some serious history... https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/i-really-do-hate-views was my first start on it, a week before I joined the company...)
[12:19] <cjwatson> Nice.
[12:22] <cjwatson> Perhaps I should do something with some of my misc branches that are about half that old ...
[12:25] <wgrant> That's where that batch last week came from...
[12:25] <wgrant> I have some dozens sitting in various ~ backups that never quite saw the light of day.
[12:26] <wgrant> cjwatson: Does my reply in https://code.launchpad.net/~wgrant/launchpad/bug-1083709-again/+merge/306167 make sense to you?
[12:33] <cjwatson> wgrant: Yep, seems reasonable, just hadn't quite had a chance to think about it.  Approved with one extra comment.
[12:34] <wgrant> cjwatson: Thanks.
[12:34] <cjwatson> I'm making fairly decent progress with the base git-target import model, BTW.  We should talk about the auth arrangements next week.
[12:35] <wgrant> Odd is right.
[12:35] <cjwatson> And resisting the impulse to go and spend a day ripping out the rest of IBranchTarget.
[12:36] <wgrant> It is conceivable that a simple HMAC could work here with minimal database implications.
[12:37] <cjwatson> Push over HTTPS, you mean?
[12:37] <wgrant> Precisely.
[12:37] <cjwatson> How novel.
[12:37] <cjwatson> Certainly worth considering.
[12:37] <wgrant> LP then need only verify the signature and that the encoded job ID is presently Running.
[12:38] <cjwatson> I like avoiding a new celebrity if we can.
[12:38] <wgrant> Avoiding celebrities and limiting excess authority always make me happy.
[12:39] <cjwatson> Right, need to go out shortly, later
[12:39] <wgrant> Indeed, and I should sleep. See you next week.


[05:19] <JackFrost> So I hear this strange white stuff is supposed to fall from the sky this weekend.  Just a little bit though.