[10:53] <negnin> pvl1: man chmod
[10:53] <DShepherd> pvl1, man chmod
[10:53] <rlount> dwxreaper, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37732/  pretty stock .bashrc
[10:53] <pvl1> k ty
[10:53] <dwxreaper> rlount: thanks
[10:53] <Warsocket> and thats so for evry command you can think of
[10:53] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: /etc/skel/.bashrc
[10:53] <rlount> dwxreaper, np.
[10:53] <darklordveynom> how can i set my terminal colors from C++ source code?
[10:53] <[nrx] > tanath: thanks :) - are those letters individual commands? - is there a list of them somewhere?
[10:53] <tanath> EliteInsane, [nrx]  pause between keystrokes. see here: http://fosswire.com/2007/09/08/fix-a-frozen-system-with-the-magic-sysrq-keys/
[10:54] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, good point!
[10:54] <negnin> pvl1: but if you tell me want needs to be done I can guide you through it :)
[10:54] <NessieLiberaton> rlount: well - that doesnt have the aliases enabled
[10:54] <[nrx] > tanath: learn something new everyday! :)
[10:54] <tanath> [nrx] , yeah. REI- i forget, but S is synch data to HDs, U is unmount, and B, is reboot
[10:54] <pete83> darklordveynom: couldn't you use a SYSTEM command, and call the "set_color" program
[10:54] <Tommck> I am currently running Dapper Drake.  I want to get to a higher kernel version.  Is the simplest thing upgrading the whole OS?  Or is there an easy way to get a > 2.6.16 kernel?
[10:54] <darklordveynom> i know i can do system(" whatever"
[10:54] <pvl1> negnin: o i just need for "others" to have read access
[10:55] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, right.
[10:55] <tanath> [nrx] , should always work unless the kernel is frozen
[10:55] <darklordveynom> but i need to know the command that actually changes the color
[10:55] <Warsocket> Question, why does ubuntu put sources in non standard directory's
[10:55] <tanath> [nrx] , it's the recommended way to reboot on a lockup
[10:55] <Warsocket> and does not link em
[10:55] <negnin> pvl1: on a certain directory?
[10:55] <[nrx] > tanath: in which case ones has more problems than a frozen box eh
[10:55] <EliteInsane> tanath, thanks man i was kinda getting worries about hitting the reset button so many tiems
[10:55] <pete83> darklordveynom: so like this? ...  http://linux.die.net/man/1/set_color
[10:55] <Warsocket> like kerner sources
[10:55] <Warsocket> or the gtk.h file
[10:55] <riaal> keep forgetting the name of the terminal apciataion that list aplications and cpu usage, anyone?
[10:55] <NessieLiberaton> rlount: i have a large number of things in aliases - everything upto show the OSD in amarok ;)
[10:55] <darklordveynom> yep
[10:55] <magnetron> Warsocket: we don't answer "why" questions, we only provide support
[10:55] <NessieLiberaton> riaal: top
[10:55] <Warsocket> all tuts expect gtk.h to be on /usr/include/gtk/
[10:55] <darklordveynom> thanks for the help
[10:56] <riaal> NessieLiberaton: cheers
[10:56] <webjames> HI!
[10:56] <pvl1> negnin: well to be detailed i need /media/PAVEL'S IPO/ipod_control/music to be readable
[10:56] <dwxreaper> i copied the skel/.bashrc to /home/myusername, still messed up, the services are not running
[10:56] <magnetron> hi webjames
[10:56] <Ignite> Warsocket, the tutorial you're reading is probably _old_. Most packages not use pkg-config.
[10:56] <Tommck> I want to upgrade Dapper... should I just go to Edgy?  Feisty?  or what?
[10:56] <Ignite> now*
[10:56] <negnin> pvl1: can you do a 'ls -l' on that dir for me
[10:56] <Tommck> sorry for the bold
[10:56] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: you need to resource it: type . ~/.bashrc in bash
[10:56] <rlount> NessieLiberaton, thats cool!
[10:56] <nbkr> Tommck, Dapper -> Edgy -> Feisty
[10:57] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: or load a new terminal to do it automatically in new terminals
[10:57] <tanath> EliteInsane, well, if you reboot improperly linux will detect that and run a fsck to fix any errors
[10:57] <pete83> Tommck: If you wait a month, then go for gutsy
[10:57] <Tommck> nbkr - and I can just change my sources.list and do that?
[10:57] <electricista617> Are there any free iso programs out there?
[10:57] <dwxreaper> nessie: i rebooted, let me see what happens
[10:57] <riaal> System is really slow and top shows: 18815 root      25   0  155m 119m  24m R 92.9  5.9 283:04.17 Xorg what do you ppl thing is the problem?
[10:57] <kevin__> tommck - hi, you'll need to upgrade in order of release, ie dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[10:57] <Tommck> this usually works quite well?
[10:57] <hawk> Warsocket: If you use gtk-config, it doesn't really matter where gtk.h is, right?
[10:57] <Tommck> I'm tentative.  I have never done this kind of upgrade
[10:57] <nbkr> Tommck, yes, but run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:57] <DShepherd> electricista617, depends on what you want to do with the iso...
[10:57] <rockets> If I set a password on root, I can reverse that by doing passwd -l root right
[10:57] <tanath> electricista617, pretty much everything on linux is free. yes
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, yes
[10:58] <Tommck> nbkr - ok... I found a page with instructions... giving it a shot...
[10:58] <magnetron> Tommck: i would recommend you to do a fresh install of gutsy
[10:58] <electricista617> I just want to burn the ubuntu program onto a cd
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, thanks. cuz some things just require having a root password.  ..
[10:58] <pvl1> negnin i cant cd to that directory
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, I know
[10:58] <Tommck> magnetron - why is that?
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, e.g. changing certain vmware server settings
[10:58] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: you can go dapper->edgy->feisty, or you can download the iso for a cd of feisty/(gutsy soon) and install from scratch
[10:58] <velko> riaal, some crappy binary drivers? nvida? ati?
[10:58] <DShepherd> electricista617, well there are tons of those stuff....
[10:58] <bruenig> rockets, they get mad when you say that though so keep quiet
[10:58] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: otherwise it's about 2 days of updates or more :P
[10:58] <EliteInsane> tanath, reinstalling actually worked out for me, got the latest opera installed and fixed a few other screwups i had, now just need to figure out how to get firefox from being my default browser
[10:58] <rockets> bruenig, yeah yeah
[10:58] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah... what I really need is a newer kernel than Dapper offers
[10:58] <negnin> pvl1: 'sudo chmod +r /media/PAVEL'S IPO/ipod_control/music' should do the trick
[10:58] <riaal> velko: let me check, thanks
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, so don't run dapper.  ..
[10:59] <Tommck> rockets - yeah.. but I'm running dapper now...
[10:59] <tanath> EliteInsane, Sys > Prefs > Preferred apps
[10:59] <electricista617> So how do I find those programs?
[10:59] <kevin__> tommck - yes, it can sometimes go wrong... depends whether you've installed lots of stuff from non-standard repositories, eg, easy-ubuntu or automatix. i have had a couple of whoopsies in the past, so make sure you backup.
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, so upgrade
[10:59] <magnetron> Tommck: upgrading from dapper to edgy sometimes causes problems. either you could spend time fixing those, or just do a clean install with everything working in gutsy
[10:59] <Tommck> thanks rockets... so insightful
[10:59] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: it would be quicker to download the iso, burn it and install feisty/gutsy from scratch than it would be to go through them all
[10:59] <dwxreaper> nessie: still messed up
[10:59] <pvl1> negnin: a">" appears and it doesnt move
[10:59] <DShepherd> electricista617, you running ubuntu now?
[10:59] <electricista617> no.
[10:59] <rockets> Tommck, obvious maybe . . . but I still fail to see the problem.
[10:59] <dwxreaper> why does changing that file mess up everything, asdf
[10:59] <rathel> Hello, I need some help with mt-daapd. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37632/
[10:59] <negnin> pvl1: control c
[10:59] <Warsocket> lol i cant PM here
[11:00] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - and Gutsy's been pretty stable?  I've been a bit out of the loop
[11:00] <negnin> pvl1: don't type the 's
[11:00] <DShepherd> electricista617, oh... hmmm...
[11:00] <bruenig> !register | Warsocket
[11:00] <ubotu> Warsocket: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:00] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: well unless you're brave - you might wanna wait a month before gutsy - i run it and it's fine... but hey
[11:00] <pvl1> negin oo ok ill try
[11:00] <EliteInsane> tanath, you know everything, i love you
[11:00] <Warsocket> k tnx
[11:00] <Tommck> ok.
[11:00] <solar_ant> hi
[11:00] <solar_ant> my disk buffer read is very slow
[11:00] <dwxreaper> nessie: i do type ntop and it is not there, that is the daemon the server runs.  it was fine, could be rebooted
[11:00] <pvl1> negnin without the "'s" samething happens
[11:00] <solar_ant> can someone help
[11:00] <solar_ant> its a pata drive
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, lol :D
[11:01] <dwxreaper> all that was done is i go to .bashrc, and change a bunch of stuff, and i copied it to .old first, but .old is not there..
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, i try... though i fail :P
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: is ntop an alias?
[11:01] <PF|WSTP> Does anyone know of a command/program that shows failed login attempts (in addition to successful) and what time the login attempts happened?
[11:01] <Warsocket>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:01] <electricista617> shepherd, what should I do?
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: if you know what you're doing, and it's not a critical computer - it might be fun ;)
[11:01] <EliteInsane> tanath, been damn well with all my problems
[11:01] <dwxreaper> nessie: no, it was in usr/sbin before
[11:01] <EliteInsane> lol
[11:01] <tanath> EliteInsane, comes from experience. means i had 'em first :P
[11:01] <Tommck> one more question... I just did a dist-upgrade on Dapper and got a slightly newer kernel.  Is there a way to downgrade that for the time being?  I'm going on vacation and I want my mythTV stuff to continue to work
[11:01] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: does typing /usr/sbin/ntop work ?
[11:02] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah... it won't be a big deal.. I just don't have the time now
[11:02] <negnin> pvl1: ah yes the PAVEL'S is messing it up
[11:02] <nooga> how to create a trash icon on gnome desktop?
[11:02] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: you should be able to choose the older kernel at grub on boot
[11:02] <bruenig> !icons
[11:02] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[11:02] <negnin> pvl1: try this: sudo chmod +r /media/PAVEL\'S IPO/ipod_control/music
[11:02] <pvl1> negnin: figured
[11:02] <dwxreaper> nessie: no but it was there, now it's not
[11:02] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - it's in a wiring closet... is there a way to do it outside of the grub menu?
[11:02] <tannerld> I got a Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 error when starting nautilus or terminal
[11:02] <pvl1> negnin:within the error message from my media server thats the directory it gave me instead of the usual
[11:02] <NessieLiberaton> dwxreaper: then that's not bash's fault
[11:02] <hacknslash> nooga: there is a wastebin icon in the lower right hand corner
[11:03] <nooga> hacknslash: yea, but i removed that panel
[11:03] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: the um, dont you see the grub menu when you boot ?
[11:03] <pvl1> negnin: but now it says that theres no directory like that
[11:03] <EliteInsane> tanath, someday i hope to be able to solve these problems real easy, i can solve really any windows problem through experience
[11:03] <karriboi> server irc.saunalahti.fi
[11:03] <dwxreaper> that's the only thing I changed, and this thing has been rebooted 10 times today
[11:03] <dwxreaper> .bashrc is the _only thing I changed
[11:03] <karriboi> whoops
[11:03] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - I would have to shove myself into a closet to see it... and I would have to drag a monitor in there too
[11:03] <PF|WSTP> Does anyone know of a command/program that shows failed login attempts (in addition to successful) and what time the login attempts happened?
[11:03] <tanath> EliteInsane, same. just takes a bit of time. once you learn certain things, it becomes pretty easy
[11:03] <electricista617> Where can I download a free ISO program so I can burn an ubuntu cd?
[11:04] <bruenig> !repeat | PF|WSTP
[11:04] <ubotu> PF|WSTP: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:04] <negnin> pvl1: do sudo bash and check if that dir is there
[11:04] <PF|WSTP> bruenig, only one repeat ;)
[11:04] <rafaelscj> hello all
[11:04] <NessieLiberaton> Tommck: it's a server? you could edit the grub menu - but that's something i'd avoid doing unless you're sure
[11:04] <nbkr> PF|WSTP, thats all listed in /var/log/messages
[11:04] <Tommck> NessieLiberaton - yeah.. it's a MythTV backend
[11:04] <PF|WSTP> ok thanks
[11:04] <tanath> electricista617, you can do it from nautilus, or use k3b, or brasero, etc. there's plenty
[11:05] <electricista617> which do you recommend for xp?
[11:05] <tanath> electricista617, all are in the repositories
[11:05] <pvl1> negnin: well at first it didnt work but i put quotes around the directory without the PAVEL\'S and it came through, i think
[11:05] <NessieLiberaton> tanath: he wants to burn the iso in windows
[11:05] <tanath> NessieLiberaton, oops
[11:05] <tanath> why?
[11:06] <mrshfr> can anyone tell me how to triple boot vista/xp/ubuntu?
[11:06] <nooga> eh
[11:06] <NessieLiberaton> tanath: because he wants to burn ubuntu iso so he can install it :P
[11:06] <nooga> eh
[11:06] <ed1t> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[11:06] <ed1t> when i type mysql
[11:06] <nooga> dunno what to do with that trashbin
[11:06] <DShepherd> electricista617, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[11:06] <NessieLiberaton> nooga: did you need those "eh"s ?
[11:06] <negnin> pvl1: ok.. so you're done?
[11:06] <tanath> NessieLiberaton, that's a good reason :) :P
[11:07] <C> hello, I have problems with Real Player. Can Somebody help me?
[11:07] <pvl1> negnin: uhm no, the permissions havent changed
[11:07] <NessieLiberaton> C: tell us the problem then
[11:07] <nooga> NessieLiberaton: not really, but my problem is different
[11:07] <Al-Khouli> hi all , i want to ask if there's a way to connect remotely to win XP from ubuntu ??!
[11:08] <NessieLiberaton> Al-Khouli: rdesktop
[11:08] <Warsocket> Samba
[11:08] <NessieLiberaton> Warsocket: samba is for files, rdesktop logs you in
[11:08] <Al-Khouli> NessieLiberaton: thanx
[11:08] <negnin> pvl1: can you do the ls -l for this dir as root (you're root in the terminal you got after doing 'sudo bash')
[11:08] <tanath> electricista617, http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/dvdcdburning.shtml
[11:08] <MindfulGeek> Al-Khouli: you can install tightvnc on xp and use xvncviewer to see the logged in desktop on XP
[11:08] <electricista617> Thanks. I'll get on it.
[11:09] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: why are you advising him to du sudo bash ?
[11:09] <qazwsx> how do I have a firewall rule that allows access to security.ubuntu.com but not other plaaces?
[11:09] <C> There are 2 problems: 1) I try execute the Real Player by Applications --> Sound & Video -> Real Player   This message appears: "Could not launch menu item. Failed to execute child process "realplay" (No such file or directory).
[11:10] <EliteInsane> tanath, one more thing, ubuntu keeps making chimes how do i turn them off
[11:10] <NessieLiberaton> C: have you recently upgraded ?
[11:10] <DShepherd> electricista617, your welcome
[11:10] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: when you login ?
[11:10] <EliteInsane> after that
[11:10] <qazwsx> i.e. I want to be able to do apt-get updates and apt-gets, but I don't want other network connection allowed (I want to allow access to security.ubuntu.com but not other places)
[11:10] <EliteInsane> like just sitting around
[11:10] <tanath> EliteInsane, depends what's chiming :P
[11:10] <C> no...
[11:10] <EliteInsane> i look and nothing is seeking attention
[11:10] <pvl1> negnin on the ".../ipod_control/music/" dir?
[11:10] <EliteInsane> it just randomly chimes D:
[11:11] <tanath> EliteInsane, Sys > Prefs > Sounds > sounds tab
[11:11] <DShepherd> could be your chat client or something
[11:11] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: trying to make it easy for him
[11:11] <EliteInsane> thanks
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: it's better not to
[11:11] <hoster> http://castlehost.0lx.net/
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: try searching for iptables
[11:11] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: I know, but i don't want to talk him through the detour
[11:11] <EliteInsane> hopefully that will do it
[11:11] <EliteInsane> thanks once again
[11:11] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I am using iptables, I'm not sure which rules; security.ubuntu.com's ip changes, no?
[11:11] <NessieLiberaton> !firewall | qazwsx
[11:11] <ubotu> qazwsx: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:12] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: i have no idea - but you could try reading the man page for iptables ?
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: yes, I know how to use iptables
[11:12] <negnin> pvl1: try sudo chmod 644 /your/dir/
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I don't know _what_ to filter for in this case
[11:12] <C> on the installation process, some symbolic links creation failed......
[11:12] <pvl1> negnin: well ive managed to cd into the /music/ directory
[11:12] <Warsocket> there are drivers for NTFS writing now, if i compile them into the kernel then how can i install ubunut on a NTFS partition
[11:12] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: oh, you want to know what server you're going to be connecting to ?
[11:12] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: yes :-)
[11:13] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: and ion which port ... etc ...
[11:13] <EliteInsane> still beeping uugghgjhg
[11:13] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: it's default reject; I need to figure out what to allow so that apt-get doesn't hang when it hits security.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: you could try specifiying a server in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:13] <djlenoir> i need a little help. i have one ntfs drive that won't mount because it says it was improperly shutdown (when i had windows i guess) and i either don't know how to use ntfsfix or it is not working... how can i fix that ntfs volume?
[11:13] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: like i have ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:13] <negnin> pvl1: I feel the need to warn you about your root status now (inspired by NessieLiberaton); use it with care ;)
[11:13] <faraaz> u dont have windows anymore?
[11:14] <qazwsx> Meroigo: I can't even ping ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <DexterF> can't access an NFS share here. export seems ok, nfsd is running, clients can't mount.
[11:14] <qazwsx> Meroigo: wrong person, sorry
[11:14] <djlenoir> i removed windows and replaced it with ubuntu
[11:14] <tanath> EliteInsane, type dmesg in a terminal and see what it spits out. maybe there's some error or something
[11:14] <qazwsx> NessieLiberaton: I can't even ping ie.security.ubuntu.com
[11:14] <DexterF> used to work, no clue where to look
[11:14] <faraaz> eeesh
[11:14] <C> NessieLiberation: when I go to the specific RealPlayer directory and click realplay, the Real Player open....by terminal.
[11:14] <faraaz> then how come you still have the NTFS drive?
[11:14] <NessieLiberaton> qazwsx: actually i have ie.archive set, not security
[11:14] <pvl1> negnin: thanks, ill kepp that in mind, but should i got into the directory, should i ls -l?
[11:14] <adamrn83> hi
[11:14] <EliteInsane> a lot came up
[11:15] <EliteInsane> like a lot
[11:15] <tannerld> I got a Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 error when starting nautilus or terminal
[11:15] <adamrn83> im trying to get my machine to play dvds, it wont work help
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> C: have you tried reinstalling real player with the installation script ? it might be easier
[11:15] <djlenoir> lol, because all my data are on those drives. i guess i read that ntfs-3g worked fine with ntfs and didn't worry about it. i do still have another computer with Vista though.
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: what have you tried?
[11:15] <EliteInsane> [ 1190.227259]  operapluginwrap[6858] : segfault at<PHONE_NUMBER>0004d1 rip 00000000f7db9516 rsp 00000000ffca6a30 error 4
[11:15] <EliteInsane>
[11:15] <NessieLiberaton> !dvd > adamrn83
[11:15] <EliteInsane> thats the latest one
[11:15] <adamrn83> what does that mean
[11:15] <adamrn83> im new
[11:16] <darklordveynom> is there a way in C++ to find out if someone typed a character instead of a number?
[11:16] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: it means you should have a message from ubotu telling you all that i know about dvds
[11:16] <negnin> pvl1: yeah or try sudo chmod 655 on that dir
[11:16] <adamrn83> ne way ive installed gxine
[11:16] <adamrn83> and tried to get libdvdcss2
[11:16] <NessieLiberaton> adamrn83: "tried"
[11:16] <adamrn83> but i dont think it worked properly
[11:16] <C> NessieLiberation: I was thinking about, but I wanna know how can I uninstall the Real Player, without problems, can you help me do it?
[11:17] <djlenoir> faraaz: is it not possible to get it working without sticking it back in a windows machine?
[11:17] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: ls -l, who is listed as owner
[11:17] <negnin> pvl1: (i said 644 earlier but I mixed up my numbers (doesn't really matter though, but 4 gives you just read permissions and 5 also execution permissions which is more standard for a dir))
[11:17] <NessieLiberaton> C: not really, i believe that the installer script should just correct it though
[11:17] <pvl1> negnin, o ok well i did both
[11:18] <Warsocket> just a question for a guy i know
[11:18] <qazwsx> what do I need ot open up in my firewall to allow security.ubuntu.com updates?
[11:18] <rene7705> ehhh guys.... i ran into a bit of a problem; gedit lost a file of mine while i was editing it over ftp.. it's GONE, as is the gedit instance that froze for over an hour and couldnt get along with ddd... it's a webdevelopment sourcefile so it should b in the firefox cache for instance still.. anyone here know the firefox source and can point me to the cachecontrol routines? or any other tips to retrieve a file lost by gedit crashing during
[11:18] <adamrn83> when i tried to get libdvdcss synpatic returned an error
[11:18] <rene7705>  ftp transfer?
[11:18] <negnin> pvl1: uhh I mean 755 :) damn I need either sleep or coffee :)
[11:18] <C> humm....did you do it yet?
[11:18] <Warsocket> What can you do if you remove yourself form the 'admin' group ?
[11:18] <tanath> EliteInsane, sorry, bouncing back and forth here
[11:18] <EliteInsane> no problem
[11:18] <tanath> EliteInsane, anything that looks like a hardware error, perhaps?
[11:18] <pvl1> negnin: or both, ok ill try that
[11:18] <NessieLiberaton> Warsocket: so there are no admin group users? maybe fix it with a liveCD
[11:19] <notebook> i'm installing feisty on an ibm thinkpad but it's not finding the operating system, can anyone help?
[11:19] <C> NessieLiberaton: did you do this operation yet?
[11:19] <NessieLiberaton> C: a long time ago - i wouldnt have a clue now what it said then
[11:19] <negnin> pvl1: 7 gives all permissions (rwx for root, 5 gives r-x for all members of the group of this dir and the last 5 gives the permissions for 'others')
[11:20] <EliteInsane> tanath, not that i cant tell
[11:20] <notebook> is there anything specific about installing ubuntu on an ibm thinkpad?
[11:20] <notebook> a bios problem maybe?
[11:20] <negnin> pvl1: so you now know what you're actually doing :)
[11:20] <pvl1> negnin ooo kool system, ty.
[11:20] <riaal> How do I close the GUI? I need to remove "fglrx"
[11:20] <stefg> notebook: what happens exactly when you try to boot ?
[11:20] <NessieLiberaton> notebook: this laptop (not a thinkpad) gave that error last week, but it works fine before and after - just a 1 off
[11:20] <tanath> EliteInsane, so you can't find anything that happens when the beeps do?
[11:20] <notebook> it says operating system not found, stefg
[11:21] <djlenoir> guess faraaz left... anyone have suggestions on how to get the ntfs drive fixed so i can mount it in ubuntu?
[11:21] <EliteInsane> no
[11:21] <stefg> notebook: is this a dual boot system ?
[11:21] <C> NessieLiberaton: so...how can I do this installation with the script?
[11:21] <adamrn83> when trying to play dvds whats the next step after installing libdvdcss2 and gxine?
[11:21] <tanath> EliteInsane, is it like a pc speaker beep, or a sound-byte 'chime' or something?
[11:21] <notebook> "pxe-m0f: exiting intel pxe rom"
[11:21] <EliteInsane> chime
[11:21] <riaal> How do I shutdown X (GUI)?? I need to remove a VGA driver (fglrx) please?
[11:21] <notebook> it shouldn't be, but i bought a used hard drive that i'm installing on an old laptop
[11:21] <EliteInsane> havent heard it in a couple minutes here now
[11:21] <EliteInsane> hmm
[11:21] <notebook> thanks for responding, stefg
[11:21] <NessieLiberaton> C: you download it from the realpayer website - realplayer10gold.bin or something
[11:22] <C> I have installed by this one....realplayer10gold.bin
[11:22] <pvl1> negnin: it still doesnt give 'others' permission. could this be a problem with my ipod?
[11:22] <negnin> pvl1: yeah it's cool, 1 stands for x, 2 stands for w and 4 for r. If you add them up you can different combinations of permissions.
[11:22] <NessieLiberaton> C: that's the one - run it again
[11:23] <stefg> notebook: often the bios needs a drive to be marked as active, although neither grub (the bootloader) nor the linux kernel cares about that. Have you already installed ubuntu on that thing, or do you try to boot the CD ?
[11:23] <djlenoir> well if no one can assist with the ntfs drive problem, maybe someone can help me with my other immediate problem... my system uses a logitech bluetooth keyboard and mouse and i have to pull the usb receiver out and plug it back in every time i reboot ubuntu. i can live with it but it would be nice if i did not have to do that. :)
[11:23] <negnin> pvl1: not likely. How do you check if the permissions? with ls -l?
[11:23] <tanath> EliteInsane, then it's prolly not an error
[11:23] <tanath> EliteInsane, maybe you have a virus and someone's trying to drive you insane :P
[11:23] <pvl1> negnin: i right click on the folder and go into permissions
[11:23] <notebook> the ubuntu cd booted, and the install went ok.  but then it won't boot from the hard drive.  is there a way to change the bios?
[11:23] <C> NessieLiberaton: but Won't I need uninstall or erase some dirs or files before?
[11:24] <EliteInsane> heh
[11:24] <EliteInsane> possible
[11:24] <tanath> EliteInsane, you sure all the sounds are turned off in the prefs?
[11:24] <NessieLiberaton> C: presumably it'll just do the installation process again - hence creating, not destroying - and i would imagine you would be alright if it is already there
[11:24] <Jnaut> i love ubuntu
[11:24] <stefg> notebook: you need to look at the situation from the Live CD booted on that computer again
[11:24] <riaal> How do I switch to runlevel 1??
[11:24] <bruenig> init 1
[11:25] <pvl1> negnin: and ls -l on tells me that root is the owner
[11:25] <EliteInsane> yes
[11:25] <bruenig> you want to do that in tty though
[11:25] <notebook> which option on the live cd should i select, stefg?  thanks again
[11:25] <EliteInsane> but i havent heard it for a while now
[11:25] <EliteInsane> so maybe i did something
[11:25] <EliteInsane> ok there it goes
[11:25] <stefg> notebook: just boot it up as you did before installing
[11:25] <C> NessieLiberaton: so...I can use the same directory in the installation process, right?
[11:25] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: wont he want to sudo chown those files to his nick
[11:25] <NessieLiberaton> C: yup
[11:25] <C> NessieLiberaton: humm....I'll try now
[11:26] <notebook> just tried the boot from drive option on the live cd and it seems to be loading.  i guess the bios just doesn't know where to look.  do i go f1 at opening to redirect?
[11:26] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: yeah, shouldn't really matter though if the permissions are ok, but let's try that
[11:26] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: are you still in the root shell ?
[11:26] <tanath> EliteInsane, lol. BTW, use my name when talking to me, so i'll notice :)
[11:26] <pvl1> nessieLiberaton: yes
[11:26] <negnin> pvl1: we're going to try NessieLiberaton's approach and change the group of this dir
[11:26] <tanath> EliteInsane, you know about tab completion, right?
[11:26] <willdev> bbc - most business use microsoft operating systems on servers because they know it will work haahhhahaahha
[11:27] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: then chmod YOUR USERNAME:YOUR USERNAME *
[11:27] <EliteInsane> tanath,  yea just i dont do it sometimes
[11:27] <EliteInsane> tanath, sorry
[11:27] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: or better still: chmod -R YOUR USERNAME:YOUR USERNAME *
[11:27] <Ajnin> Anyone fond of Oracle?
[11:28] <stefg> notebook: you nedd to run a disk utility and look if the boot partition is marked 'active' (has the boot flag set) you can only now by bootng the Live CD and llok ate the partition table by running fdisk or cfdisk from CD
[11:28] <tanath> EliteInsane, only thing i can think of right now is to play around with the settings in Sys > Prefs > Sounds. there's a few check boxes there that might do it
[11:28] <EliteInsane> hmm
[11:28] <Ajnin> What's the prob?
[11:28] <Ajnin> W/ Elite?
[11:28] <EliteInsane> tanath, lol i just imported my IE favorite from windows to opera
[11:28] <EliteInsane> Ajnin, ubuntu keeps playing chimes
[11:29] <pvl1> nessieliberaton says the directory doesnt exsist
[11:29] <Ajnin> Cycles over again?
[11:29] <EliteInsane> Ajnin, like something is trying to get my attention but nothing is blinking
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: you dont have a browser open with a website with a sound background do you ?
[11:29] <Pelo> EliteInsane,  menu > systmwe < prefs > sounds
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: what did you type ?
[11:29] <Balsus-Legdre> sorry but I am a first class noob. In terminal server I am currently in apax@apax-desktop:~$   how do I get in root
[11:29] <Ajnin> Hmm..
[11:29] <djlenoir> anyone else use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse with ubuntu? do you have to reset your usb bluetooth dongle each time you reboot the system?
[11:29] <EliteInsane> no and did taht
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> Balsus-Legdre: why do you want root?
[11:29] <tanath> EliteInsane, what apps are running right now? what's in the systray
[11:29] <NessieLiberaton> !sudo > Balsus-Legdre
[11:29] <EliteInsane> opera
[11:29] <pvl1> nessieliberaton: chmod -r pavel:pavel *
[11:29] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, put sudo before your command
[11:29] <EliteInsane> tanath, opera, gaim ,xchat
[11:30] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: are you going to take over? because then I'm leaving.. otherwise I'll hang around till it's fixed
[11:30] <Szeraax> can anyone help me? I'm trying to use make with a folder, but the files disappeared after i ran make, look near the end of this. --> http://pastebin.com/d6a4214fd
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> Im looking ata tutorial and it shows extraction to root
[11:30] <tanath> EliteInsane, gaim or xchat might do it. xchat when your name is used
[11:30] <notebook> running fdisk now, stefg, can you walk me through what to do?  much appreciated
[11:30] <NessieLiberaton> EliteInsane: is it when xchat isnt active and someone says your name?
[11:30] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, do you mean to /root ?
[11:30] <EliteInsane> tanath, i check xchat every time
[11:30] <redbox> has anyone gotten mondorescue to archive and restore via CD correctly on a Ubuntu 7.04 machine?
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> yes sorry
[11:30] <Balsus-Legdre> I was not clear
[11:30] <mox> who know sometink about dell bios ?
[11:30] <EliteInsane> tanath, and most of the time my name hasnt been said
[11:30] <tanath> EliteInsane, check the server tab too?
[11:30] <GIn> why is Pidgin not in the repo of Feisty?
[11:30] <adamrn83> trying to get ubuntu to play dvds is really getting me down now
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: uppercase -R
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, yea, nothing new
[11:31] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,   cd /root  that will get you into the /root folder
[11:31] <hacknslash> mox: what u want to know
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> GIn: because it wasnt released when feisty was frozen
[11:31] <spyteman> hey guys, i did some mistakes with lirc i think and now my ati remote control wont work anymore... how do i switch back to original ubuntu 7.04 configuration? i think it was already working from scratch ;-)
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, well it seems to be not happening all that often anymore
[11:31] <EliteInsane> tanath, so i guess ill be fine
[11:31] <mox> i want to delate the pw
[11:31] <jack_mcdowell> did anyone else get a "Gnome Settings Daemon Restarts too many times, trash ..." after today's Gutsy upgrade?
[11:31] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  you can also man tar to see what options you need to use to extract a file to a specific folder
[11:31] <bruenig> jack_mcdowell, wrong channel +1
[11:31] <NessieLiberaton> jack_mcdowell: gutsy isnt in here, #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <jamison> i used synaptic to install wine--now how do i configure it?
[11:31] <jack_mcdowell> thanks
[11:32] <pvl1> nessieliberaton: now it says invalid mode. could my ubuntu install be messed up? or could i be missing packages?
[11:32] <RichardHunt> Hi I'm trying to use fceu or mednafen to play super mario bros. The game's running far too fast. I tried disabling cpu stepping to see if this had an effect, but no good. Anyone had this and fixed it?
[11:32] <tanath> GIn, i believe it's in gutsy, but was not released in time for feisty
[11:32] <negnin> pvl1: you want to use chown iso chmod here
[11:32] <stefg> notebook: open a terminal on the Live CD session and run 'sudo fdisk -l'. if you are able to connect to the internet from the Live-Session paste that to !pastebin. if  not look if there is a '*' in front of the boot partition
[11:32] <GIn> tanath, any way to get it installed on Feisty?
[11:32] <tanath> GIn, there's a deb for it on getdeb though
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> apax@apax-desktop:~$ cd /root
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> apax@apax-desktop:/root$ sudo mkdir /opt/dynamips
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> mkdir: cannot create directory `/opt/dynamips': File exists
[11:32] <adamrn83> can someone help with dvd playback
[11:32] <Balsus-Legdre> when I go and browse in the root directory it is empty
[11:32] <NessieLiberaton> pvl1: sorry - my fault - i made a typo: chown, not chmod
[11:32] <stefg> !pastebin | notebook
[11:32] <ubotu> notebook: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:33] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,   cd /opt  see if there is alreasdy a dynamips folder there
[11:33] <mpoufos_sketo> how to configure apache so each user has it's own web page?
[11:33] <NessieLiberaton> GIn: yes, but it's a bit fiddley
[11:33] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, type ls to see the folder content
[11:33] <tanath> jack_mcdowell, yes. there's a couple in #ubuntu+1 that did
[11:33] <negnin> pvl1: chown changes the owner of files and dirs
[11:33] <Ajnin> Ubuntu is an OS?
[11:33] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: i typed chmod for him, not chown - that was the problem :P
[11:34] <stefg> Ajnin: no ubuntu is a religion
[11:34] <NessieLiberaton> Ajnin: yes
[11:34] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, because when you type  mkdir /opt//dynamips  you are creating a folder in /opt
[11:34] <notebook> stefg, it says /dev/sda1 and that has an *.  there are two others listed - sda2 and sda5
[11:34] <negnin> NessieLiberaton: yeah I saw :)
[11:34] <notebook> one is extended and one is linux swap / solaris
[11:34] <Pelo> Ajnin, yes it is an os , fully loaded with a butload of apps
[11:34] <Balsus-Legdre> Im such a dums ass
[11:34] <notebook> thanks so much for helping with this, stefg
[11:34] <hacknslash> mox: which dell ?
[11:34] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  you are not , you are just learning
[11:34] <Ajnin> Pelo | NessieLiberaton: Very nice, I'll have to look into this.
[11:34] <Balsus-Legdre> how would I delete the folder in that directory then
[11:34] <stefg> notebook: so ubuntu is installed to sda1 i'll assume
[11:34] <notebook> that appears correct, stefg
[11:34] <negnin> pvl1: did you try the command NessieLiberaton gave you, but with 'chown' in stead of 'chmod'?
[11:35] <notebook> it booted from the drive fine when i told it to do so from the live cd
[11:35] <mox> latitude d520
[11:35] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  sudo rm -r /opt/dynamips
[11:35] <spyteman> can anyone help me? how do i get infrared remote control back to ubuntu 7.04 defaults? or how do i fix LIRC?
[11:35] <stefg> notebook: hmmm.... so lets reinstall the boot loader. run 'sudo grub' in the terminal, the prompt will change to 'grub>'
[11:35] <pvl1> negnin, nessieLiberaton: well sudo chown pavel:pavel * gives me an output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37736/
[11:36] <notebook> ok in that, stefg
[11:36] <pvl1> negnin, nessieliberaton: well i added in the last line but yea now it tells me that
[11:36] <stefg> notebook: run' find /boot/grub/stage1' . what turns up ?
[11:36] <hacknslash> mox: is it stopping you logging in ?
[11:36] <notebook> do i type "run' ..." or just find...
[11:36] <Balsus-Legdre> Thanks Pelo!!!
[11:37] <NessieLiberaton> notebook: just find...
[11:37] <notebook> hd0,0
[11:37] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre, the following links might come in handy  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php     http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[11:37] <mox> ther blocking my w-lan and  audio
[11:37] <Centaur5> Is it possible to make a dhcp server force all the workstations to use it instead of another one on the network?
[11:37] <mox> but i can go in
[11:38] <Balsus-Legdre> Quick question pelo why if I am installing from a tar file do I have to chose a the root opt location to install an application can I not extracted it anywhere or is that for all installtions
[11:38] <stefg> notebook: ok, now type 'root (hd0,0)' then type 'setup (hd0)'
[11:38] <NessieLiberaton> negnin: im off - hope you can sort him out
[11:38] <|Skull|> Hey guys, trying to hookup my TV to my pc via DVI connector on my geforce 6200... tv does 720p and 1080i. The best res I could get it to run in is 720x480. However, at this resolution, it is bigger then the screen. Any idea how I can fix this?
[11:38] <notebook> it says suceed and done, stefg
[11:39] <notebook> i mean, succeeded
[11:39] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  if you are insatlling from a tar.gz file you are actualy compiling from source,  this is a whole proceedure in itself and you shouldn'T have to extract it to anywhere other then your desktop
[11:39] <Ajnin> To prevent me from having to look through the couple thousand rooms, does anyone know a room for ways to bypass Lightspeed Systems?
[11:39] <Pelo> Balsus-Legdre,  look in  there are very good explanations there http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[11:39] <stefg> notebook: ok, then 'quit' and try to reboot. remove CD and floppy and usb and stuff to make sure the bios boots from hd
[11:40] <notebook> ok thanks trying now
[11:40] <Pelo> gtg , back later
[11:40] <negnin> pvl1: did you do the chown with the -R (-R makes it recursive, so it will also apply to all child directories)?
[11:41] <notebook> still giving me the same error, stefg.
[11:41] <Traveler9> Should I download Gutsy?
[11:41] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:41] <s3nz0r> ???
[11:42] <Traveler9> I've got a Thinkpad X61, and I hear that Feisty won't work.
[11:42] <pvl1> negnin: uhm i just did and it gave me relativly the same output only now with a directory tree of /music/
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <s3nz0r> vb careva  romana
[11:42] <pvl1> negnin and it specifically says changing of ownership is not allowd
[11:42] <stefg> notebook: check the bios. we have just put a valid master boot record on the first hd. so either the bios doesn't look at it, or for some reason the bios and grub disagree on what the first harddisk is
[11:43] <Ajnin> What applications does Ubuntu auto. come with?
[11:43] <ex_> hey
[11:43] <negnin> pvl1: can you read the files you need to read now?
[11:43] <ex_> Does anyone know why I can only view my Linux Shares from my windows machines and not my windows shares from my linux machine using samba
[11:43] <notebook> changed the bios, it wasn't looking at the new hard drive.  working now, thanks so much for your help!  all the best.
[11:44] <pvl1> negnin no not anymore
[11:44] <Max_-> hey y'all! I'm having a little problem here.. I'm trying to add some modules, but I just realized there was not even a /etc/modules directory.. is there any apt-get command to get these in place, or... no.. or something else? need some bttv module configurations!! THANKS!
[11:44] <adamrn83> why is it almost impossible to get my dvds to play
[11:44] <yokomo> what is a good newsreader for linux?
[11:45] <negnin> pvl1: ?not anymore? The goal is to get some app to read a certain file/dir, right?
[11:45] <rathel> I installed something through .deb and it works better than what's up on the repo. how do I ignore the repo version? It keeps asking to update.
[11:45] <|Skull|> Hey guys, trying to hookup my TV to my pc via DVI connector on my geforce 6200... tv does 720p and 1080i. The best res I could get it to run in is 720x480. However, at this resolution, it is bigger then the screen. Any idea how I can fix this?
[11:45] <pvl1> negnin: yea, but i can change the permissions for my username through the right click nd permissions tab
[11:45] <zoredache> rathel: look into pinning
[11:45] <eugman> Is it possible to have it so nautilus doesn't save deleted files in a trash folder for portable media?
[11:45] <pvl1> negnin but i cant change them for groups or others
[11:45] <ex_> Anyone help me with a samba question
[11:46] <gerro> help please! "mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist"
[11:46] <negnin> pvl1: yeah, but that's why we use the command line
[11:46] <gerro> ah nvm think I found solution :/
[11:47] <kenji>  guys, Im searching a svn client frontend, can you recommend me a stable gtk svn frontend?
[11:47] <pvl1> negnin: well ive been using the terminal since i got in this chat, so idk how that coulda worked
[11:47] <Traveler9> skull: HDTV?
[11:47] <|Skull|> ya
[11:47] <Traveler9> Hmm.
[11:48] <|Skull|> it's a panasonic 48" rear projection with hdtv capabilities
[11:48] <|Skull|> I have it connected to pc via a DVI cable
[11:48] <Traveler9> 720p should be roughly 720 by 1,3xx pixels.  Not HDMI?
[11:48] <ex_> Anyone know anything about SAMBA
[11:48] <|Skull|> yes, dvi
[11:48] <negnin> pvl1: but the chown, despite giving some errors, should have changed some ownerships
[11:48] <stefg> !samba | ex_
[11:48] <ubotu> ex_: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:48] <Traveler9> (HDMI is DVI with a lot of extra bits mixed in, most of which are for copy-protection; I.E, annoyance.)
[11:49] <IdleOne> ex_: ask your question and if someone can help they will
[11:49] <n-iCe> How can I know my root pass ?
[11:49] <stefg> !root
[11:49] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:49] <pvl1> negnin: well it tries but gives errors saying that the operation isnt permitted
[11:49] <IdleOne> n-iCe: use sudo
[11:49] <negnin> pvl1: is your app still complaining or are the errors exactly the files that needed to be changed?
[11:49] <|Skull|> this one is just dvi... not hdmi
[11:49] <n-iCe> IdleOne yeah but it askes me my roto pass if i lost it how can i know it again?
[11:49] <C> someone know about what the best Totem plugin to watch mpg videos? or other application to watch them?
[11:49] <ex_> I can view my linux shares from my windows computers but i can view my windows shares from my linux computer any thoughts?
[11:49] <IdleOne> n-iCe: the root pass is your user password when using sudo
[11:50] <pvl1> negnin: still complaining
[11:50] <steel_lady> something very strange is happening to my system, I think it is since I upgraded to feisty. I  just open my external disk and it freezes. and it mounts external disk twice
[11:50] <Balsus-Legdre> what does cle do in terminal
[11:50] <n-iCe> IdleOne but i typed su , my user pass and oesn't work
[11:50] <stefg> n-iCe: if you did not intentionally set up the root account with a password there is no root password in ubuntu
[11:50] <Chousuke> n-iCe: sudo -i
[11:50] <Chousuke> for a root shell
[11:50] <Balsus-Legdre> what does cle command do in terminal
[11:51] <Ajnin> What is the difference between a Male DVI and a Female DVI?
[11:51] <mpouf> how to enable user directory web page in apache?
[11:51] <n-iCe> Chousuke thank you!! why -i ? how do i set a sudo pass ?
[11:51] <stefg> Ajnin: male is a plug, feamle is a socket
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: the sudo pass is your user's pass
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: it's intentionally not separate.
[11:52] <Chousuke> n-iCe: so make sure your user's pass is secure
[11:52] <steel_lady> does somebody have experience in managing hardware and external disks, mounting, etc?
[11:52] <IdleOne> !root | n-iCe please read this link
[11:52] <ubotu> n-iCe please read this link: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[11:53] <stefg> !ask | steel_lady
[11:53] <ubotu> steel_lady: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:53] <ex_> I can view my linux shares from my windows computers but i can view my windows shares from my linux computer any thoughts?
[11:53] <negnin> pvl1: and if you run this program using sudo (just to troubleshoot)?
[11:54] <n-iCe> thank you
[11:54] <negnin> ex_: what are you trying?
[11:54] <ex_> To view and access windows shares on ubuntu
[11:54] <eugman> ex_, Doing some research on fstab, it amy help.
[11:54] <steel_lady> stefg, since I was upgrading to feisty my system behaves strange way so that I was thinking that I have some hardware problem. I entered windows and there it works perfectly even with external disk that only on opening in ubuntu freezes the system
[11:55] <rockets> Why does ubuntu-desktop depend on esound? Why not use pulse's esound compatibility library
[11:55] <negnin> ex_: duh, so are you using smbclient or what?
[11:55] <jamison> can someone help me figure out why WINE won't remember the directory i tell it to map as C: ?
[11:55] <steel_lady> stefg, before it was slow working with disk but things now went to worse
[11:55] <stefg> ex_: you need corresponding accounts on both machines, and samba won't accept pasword less windows accounts
[11:56] <s3nz0r> hy all :P
[11:56] <ex_> stefg but i set and enabled  the windows account without a passsword and it went through fine?
[11:56] <hacknslash> stefg: are you low on free disk space ?
[11:56] <steel_lady> stefg, when I turn on the external disk, it mounts 2 times, when I unmount one of them, the other freezes
[11:56] <stefg> steel_lady: you need to elobarte that. what partitions with which filesystems are involved there, and on which drives?
[11:57] <negnin> ex_: do you know the ip/name of the windows machine?
[11:57] <vancomycin> if you improperly shut down ubuntu, i.e. - turned off power, upon rebooting, is it normal before the ubuntu logo screen to have some script code running (not sure on how to describe this) it'll list a bunch of things w/ [OK]  to the right, then in the end, says "FILE SYSTEM NOT CLEAN" then proceeds back to the ubuntu boot screen and login.... just curious to know what that means? I went into the regular text console and didn't know h
[11:57] <vancomycin> ow to get out.
[11:57] <ex_> negnin yes i do
[11:57] <s3nz0r> how do  instal steam
[11:57] <s3nz0r> how do  instal steam
[11:57] <s3nz0r> ????
[11:57] <negnin> ex_: try smbclient -L ip_of_windows_machine on the commandline
[11:57] <stefg> !games
[11:58] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[11:58] <magnetron> s3nz0r: see appdb.winehq.orf
[11:58] <magnetron> s3nz0r: see appdb.winehq.org
[11:58] <steel_lady> stefg, I have linux system partition, I have ext partition for working I have storage fat32 and win partition. and I am mounting FAT32 external disk
[11:58] <stefg> !games | s3nz0r
[11:58] <ubotu> s3nz0r: please see above
[11:58] <ex_> doing that i can view the shares
[11:58] <ex_> I see all the shares fine in command line neginin
[11:59] <stefg> steel_lady: ok.. so there are no ntfs partitions involved, right? have you looked at dmesg already ?
[11:59] <Jessicatz> is any1 here?
[11:59] <e> quasi
[12:00] <steel_lady> stefg,k I think that the main problem is this external hard drive and I have to work on it because I have a lot of data for my work. the system freezes by opening the contents of the external disk in a folder
[12:00] <Jessicatz> thats certainly a mild answer in respect of the dumbness of my question
[12:00] <ex_> negnin i can view it with smbclient -L ipofmachine any thoughts
[12:00] <ompaul> !U | Jessicatz
[12:00] <ubotu> Jessicatz: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[12:00] <Jessicatz> I thought I would unleash a small flame with acting like a retard
[12:00] <negnin> ex_: mount the share
[12:00] <robdeman> folks
[12:01] <stefg> steel_lady: external disks easily become corrupt, because the get a lot of mechanical stress, and are often not cleanly unmounted. what filesystem is this externel disk ?
[12:01] <steel_lady> stefg I think fat32
[12:01] <robdeman> I did a sudo apt-get remove nvidia* on Feisty -- oops -- how do I reinstall nvidia / gnome etc? I have no Gnome desktop anymore .. xorg log errors
[12:01] <ex_> negnin how would i do so ?
[12:01] <IdleOne> Jessicatz: it is not the flame you should be worried about but the smoke that follows
[12:01] <steel_lady> stefg, how can I do a clean mount? it mounts twice
[12:02] <stefg> steel_lady: plug it in, run sudo fdsik -l and put results to !pastebin
[12:02] <AncientRelic> Can Linux read my mac's external drive?
[12:02] <Jessicatz> IdleOne: well I had this experience just now, someone joined in a channel I'm in and asked "any1 here?"
[12:02] <negnin> ex_:  mount -t smbfs -o username=ex_,password=foobar //windows_ip/share_name /mnt
[12:02] <stefg> steel_lady: and while you are at it, paste 'dmesg' output to !pastebin, too
[12:02] <smallfoot-> OpenOffice.org 2.3 released (16 sept) -- http://www.openoffice.org/
[12:03] <smallfoot-> get it, while its hot!
[12:03] <IdleOne> !offtopic | smallfoot-
[12:03] <ubotu> smallfoot-: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:03] <AncientRelic> goodness, OSS spam
[12:03] <stefg> steel_lady: that's 'sudo fdisk -l' btw
[12:03] <smallfoot-> yeah baby!


[00:38] <lengau> @woodzy - try 'sudo apt-get -f install' to make sure the install didn't break halfway through. That happened to me a while back.
[00:43] <kyubutsu> wish rekonq would handle ubuntuone better :(
[00:47] <lengau> @heinkel_111 - I just tried in k3b on a new system and was able to rip an audio CD to flac without a problem. Which version of KDE are you using?
[00:47] <lengau> @kyubutsu - What's rekonq doing on ubuntuone?
[00:49] <lengau> @kyubutsu the reason I'm asking is because I'd like to try to recreate this behaviour for a bug report
[00:52] <kyubutsu> for starters, rekonq doesnt have any visual cue when downloading large files [progress bar];  and it has failed several times at uploading ;  its more of feature request than a bug
[00:55] <lengau> @kyubutsu - When downloading a file, rekonq hands the download off to KDE's job manager. There should be an icon all the way on the left of your system tray (just to the right of the show desktop icon in the default settings) that will tell you about notifications and jobs.
[00:56] <lengau> That should be where it has your downloads.
[00:56] <kyubutsu> lengau: i meant uploading ..
[00:56] <kyubutsu> overall rekonq does a crappy job at dealing with ubuntuone
[00:56] <kyubutsu> compare with chromium if you like
[00:57] <kyubutsu> in fact, i installed chromium for the sole purpose of handling ubuntuone
[00:57] <kyubutsu> :(
[00:58] <lengau> kyubutsu - I don't really use Ubuntu One, but I actually use Chrome on all of my machines. I use oxygen-gtk to make Chrome look like (mostly) a KDE app.
[00:58] <lengau> ( http://hugo-kde.blogspot.com/2010/11/oxygen-gtk.html  if you're interested)
[00:58] <kyubutsu> i want rekonq
[00:58] <kyubutsu> :(
[00:59] <kyubutsu> & rekonq fails  :(
[00:59] <kyubutsu> i even like it better than konqueror
[01:00] <kyubutsu> good design but, fail at ubuntuone transactions
[01:02] <kyubutsu> webkit -1 ?   i dun wanna believe that
[01:05] <lengau> The only thing I can suggest then is to make some noise so it gets noticed and placed on the Natty wishlist (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdevs-kubuntu-n-rekonq-wishlist)
[03:55] <fanfare> hey folks, i try to use time command with options, but all do fail even time --help ? --help : command not found
[03:57] <fanfare> hm, ok was a bash buitlin time i guess...
[03:59] <fanfare> how to find out if a builtin is used or not? which time gave /usr/bin/time but it was not used as time...
[04:01] <well_laid_lawn> I would use the full path e.g. /usr/bin/time -options
[04:01] <sea4ever> This is strange. ftptop is showing 2 idle users..any way to kick 'em off?
[04:02] <fanfare> well_laid_lawn: yeah, found that already, but as which time gave that path i thought it would be used...
[04:22] <woodzy> i'm trying to configure a window (vlc media player) to not show up on the task bar but only in the system tray (it already show up in both); what am i looking for in kwin to configure it so that it does not show up in the task bar but only the system tray?
[04:36] <woodzy> how can i set the volume at a certain level (50% for example) every time i log in? even when i have it set lower than 100% it still defaults to 100% when i log in.
[04:47] <btraill> Are quick questions allowed in here?
[04:49] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[04:50] <btraill> So, I was installing the LAMP package from the "sudo tasksel" line. It ended up freezing at 74% for about 20 minutes so I thought it may have glitched up... I closed my terminal and now when I go to re run that same line I get an error telling me that the config.dat is being locked by another proccess.
[04:50] <btraill> Any idea?
[04:51] <btraill> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[04:51] <btraill> That's the exact error.
[04:52] <well_laid_lawn> you could try   lsof   to see what is using it
[04:52] <sea4ever> You could do a lsof | grep debconf/config.dat
[04:52] <well_laid_lawn> !aptfix
[04:52] <sea4ever> That would tell you which process is locking the file. If any
[04:55] <btraill> Interesting.. Killed the proccess and now I just got a ton of "Setting up... Enabling, etc"
[04:55] <btraill> in my Terminal.
[04:55] <btraill> I'm asumming that's enabling/installed 74% of the pack up until where it froze, correct?
[04:56] <btraill> So it would be ideal to re run the package, yes?
[04:56] <sea4ever> You'd better re-install it.
[04:56] <btraill> (By the way thanks for those tips; I'm a brand new Kubuntu user so these really help!)
[04:56] <btraill> Okay :)
[04:56] <sea4ever> Or at least check to see that it installed OK
[04:58] <btraill> Bah.. still got that same error when trying to run the
[04:58] <btraill> "sudo tasksel"
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> I would just use apt-get
[04:59] <sea4ever> You sure you installed that LAMP thing?
[04:59] <fanfare> woodzy: qdbus org.kde.kmix /Mixer0 setMasterVolume 50
[05:00] <btraill> I don't know if it fully installed.
[05:00] <sea4ever> Is it anything executable that you can run to check?
[05:00] <btraill> I'll quickly check
[05:02] <btraill> I have a "Run MySQL" executable but nothing happens when opened.
[05:04] <sea4ever> You sure nothing happens? Maybe it runs in the background or something.
[05:49] <DouglasK> Quick question ... what's a recommended app for managing media players that would (in Windows) use the Windows Media Player to manage them?
[05:50] <well_laid_lawn> manage media players?
[05:51] <Daskreech> Amarok?
[05:51] <Daskreech> well_laid_lawn: Like an iPod
[05:51] <well_laid_lawn> oh
[05:51] <DouglasK> Yeah, specifically non apple ones.
[05:53] <cpatrick2008> i upgraded from maverick to natty and now my broadcom sta wirelss does not work i am typing this on my linux mint debian edition triple boot
[05:53] <well_laid_lawn> !natty
[09:05] <daniel3> Is there a way to clear your dns cache?
[09:05] <daniel3> I know there is, cant remember the command.
[09:06] <alokito> where can I download kubuntu 11.04 torrent?
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> !torrent
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> !natty
[09:11] <well_laid_lawn> alokito: ^^
[11:27] <Guest50961> 想请教大家一个有关amarok的问题
[11:29] <well_laid_lawn> !jp
[11:31] <Guest50961> 最近一打开amarok就会提示为增请amarok功能 需要安装额外软件包 点击查看之后 会提示安装安装一个视频解码器 点击安装 提示E:无法修正错误，因为您要求某些软件包保持现状，就是它们破坏了软件包间的依赖关系。
[11:32] <Guest50961> 请教下各位这到底是怎么回事  而且自从出现这种状况之后 amarok运行起来就不太正常 经常崩溃
[11:33] <tsimpson> !cn | Guest50961
[11:58] <Klaus_Dieter> hello world
[11:59] <Klaus_Dieter> I know there is a qt interface designer somewhere but I cannot for my life remember its name - there used to be a qtdesigner but apt-get cannot find it. What is the program I am looking for?
[11:59] <well_laid_lawn> !find designer
[12:00] <well_laid_lawn> I thought designer came with qt - try in konsole   which designer    Klaus_Dieter
[12:00] <yofel> !info qt4-designer
[12:00] <yofel> Klaus_Dieter: ^
[12:01] <well_laid_lawn> I wonder why the bot didn't find it...
[12:02] <yofel> good question..
[12:02] <Klaus_Dieter> I seached for qtdesigner - now installing qt4-designer
[12:02] <Klaus_Dieter> thank you!
[12:49] <Klaus_Dieter> yesterday I did a release upgrade of kubuntu and everything worked like a charm. I was totally surprised and I have to say that this is just great!
[12:49] <Peace-> Klaus_Dieter: nice
[12:50] <Klaus_Dieter> so: Thank you for all the hard work and for making that happen
[12:51] <Peace-> kubuntu is a community project
[12:51] <Peace->  a lots of people do the work free
[12:51] <Peace-> for free
[12:51] <Klaus_Dieter> that is why I am coming here to say it
[12:51] <Peace-> :)
[12:52] <Peace-> Klaus_Dieter: the best thing you could do is spread the voice
[12:52] <Peace-> and maybe code something xD
[12:52]  * Peace- back on automatize kdenlive
[12:56] <MasterOfIntegral> new KDE software works wery well for me and I'm more than glad. This is by far more stable and shiny than in kubuntu 9.04 release. But i have several minor problems with new kernel. Unfortunately I have lost old ones (from previous releases). Can I add something to sources list so I get linux-image from one distribution (9.04) and the rest from newest 10.10?
[12:58] <yofel> well, you would have to add the sources from an older release for that (please don't use 9.04 though, that doesn't get any security updates anymore)
[12:59] <yofel> what are your kernel problems by the way?
[12:59] <MasterOfIntegral> ok, can you tell me where I can find addreses?
[13:00] <MasterOfIntegral> Laptop battery life decreased by 50% and no VMWare
[13:00] <yofel> MasterOfIntegral: check your /etc/apt/sources.list - there copy the lines with archive.ubuntu.com and put them into the file changing maverick to lucid - I wouldn't recommend jaunty, that's only on old-releases.ubuntu.com
[13:01] <yofel> and make sure you don't edit the existing ones, make a backup of the file first
[13:01] <MasterOfIntegral> oh, it was so obvious. ;-) Thank you very much!
[13:02] <yofel> then you can try an older kernel like linux-image-2.6.32-27-generic
[13:02] <yofel> if you need additional compiled drivers don't forget to install the corresponding kernel headers
[13:03] <MasterOfIntegral> Thanks for details! I will try it right now.
[13:21] <MasterOfIntegral> @ yofel: thank you very much for your time and support! I should  have come to idea of cp url and swap maverick with lucid or koala ;-) Now need to reboot to check out new (old) kernel.
[13:41] <MasterOfIntegral> hi, thanks once again to yofel, now I can use once again my VMWare machines!
[13:42] <yofel> MasterOfIntegral: you might want to boot the other kernel once and file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug linux' that vmware doesn't work with the maverick kernel
[14:08] <MasterOfIntegral> My network printer does't work in Maveric, don't know if it's because of kernel or some new cups drivers included. It worked flawlessly in karmic, not sure about jaunty... It still says processing on Document Print status (was going to print one line textfile). Some time before printer printed some random characters on about hundred pages until hard reset of printer & router ;-)
[14:08] <MasterOfIntegral> Any ideas? I have HP color laserjet CP1515n
[14:10] <MasterOfIntegral> maybe at least name of channel which I could join to ask this question?
[14:17] <yofel> MasterOfIntegral: tried to add it with the HPLIP management app? The package name for that was hplip-gui
[14:17] <yofel> I added my HP OfficeJet fine using that
[14:18] <MasterOfIntegral> yofel: no, I was adding it by System Settings. I will try hplip-gui now.
[14:25] <MasterOfIntegral> yofel: you're awesome!
[14:25] <MasterOfIntegral> it works
[14:26] <MasterOfIntegral> I didn't know about that application. I's very nice
[14:57] <mika__> hi, i see from the kde wiki that krunner can manage currency conversions, but when i try it..it doesn't work, should i have to install some extra package for it?
[15:02] <mika__> i've installed plasma-runners-addons, but still there isn't
[15:05] <yofel> mika__: works here if I type '100€ in' for example, gives me a list of currencies
[15:06] <yofel> and yes plasma-runners-addons contains the converter
[15:06] <mika__> yofel: i write 100€= and it says: eur 100.... but what if i want it in usd?
[15:07] <yofel> did you restart krunner after installing plasma-runners-addons?
[15:09] <mika__> yofel: yes.... actually i restarted it again and now works... don't know why..
[15:09] <mika__> thanks :)
[15:09] <yofel> odd
[15:10] <mika__> do you know when it updates the data? and if it's cached (for offline conversions)
[15:10] <mika__> when / how often
[15:12] <mika__> or does it call ecb everytime for the conversion?
[15:12] <yofel> no idea
[15:12] <mika__> ok
[15:12] <mika__> one more questione,if you know :)
[15:13] <mika__> what about simple calcs like: x:1=5:10 ?
[15:13] <mika__> i try it... but with a final = it says x=310.... not so good,as it should be 0.5 :)
[15:14] <Slashx> Hey guys
[15:14] <Slashx> how do I set start up services in Kubuntu
[15:15] <Slashx> I woud like Compiz and Knetworkmanager to be autorun for all users that log into a KDE session
[15:16] <yofel> mika__: not much better here, 5:10=5,1666667 o.O
[15:16] <mika__> yofel: nice :)
[15:16] <Slashx> Anyone?
[15:17] <yofel> Slashx: checked systemsettings -> startup and shutdown?
[15:19] <walter_> please... spanish chanel??
[15:19] <yofel> !es | walter_
[15:20] <walter_> gracias
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:39] <BajK> Is it just me or is KDE 4.6 RC1's sound system really broken (without PulseAudio)?
[15:41] <BluesKaj> dunno , that's the chance one takes with RCs, BajK...maybe the alsa settings are muted again
[15:41] <BajK> BluesKaj: it's just that it worked perfectly in Beta 2
[15:41] <BajK> and now people blaim me for not having this buggy pulseaudio thingie installed
[15:42] <BajK> afk, restarting, now installed pulseaudio
[15:43] <Lists> Hello. How do I install thunderbird on the latest Crunchbang statler? Claws-mail is cool but really does not cut it for me..
[15:43] <walter_> hello a query
[15:44] <walter_> I have problems with the screen size
[15:44] <walter_> I return to the previous setting after restart
[15:44] <walter_> any suggestions?
[15:44] <BluesKaj> I'm not a fan but mplayer sound needs pulkseaudio on mmy setup and I'm using mencoder for video and audio capture
[15:44] <well_laid_lawn> Lists: there is a #crunchbang channel
[15:45] <Lists> sorry wrong window
[15:45] <well_laid_lawn> np
[15:46] <walter_> I'm sorry, but I'm new in kubuntu
[15:47] <well_laid_lawn> walter_: you are prob saving sessions
[15:47] <well_laid_lawn> !sessions
[15:48] <walter_> ?? sorrydo not understand
[15:49] <well_laid_lawn> select a new kde session at login
[15:52] <Paddy_NI> How do I make windows on kde behave like they do on plasma-netbook... does kde use something like maximus, I have already added the "Current Application Controls" to the panel
[15:52] <Paddy_NI> maximised windows with no decoration.. yes please :)
[15:52] <BluesKaj> I'm still waiting for a Google Earth version that will run on kde 4.5, just crashes at launch ...very poor support
[15:53] <maco> Paddy_NI: maybe try the "air for netbooks" theme instead of "air"?
[15:53] <maco> (in workspace appearance)
[15:54] <Klaus_Dieter> BluesKaj: you want marble
[15:54] <BluesKaj> Klaus_Dieter, do I ? :)
[15:54] <maco> marble doesnt have a way to save locations does it?
[15:54] <Paddy_NI> maco, Oh thanks I had just thought that was a plasma theme and had no interference with kwin
[15:55] <Klaus_Dieter> it works well and is stable here
[15:55] <Klaus_Dieter> maco: not sure
[15:55] <Slashx> Yeah so
[15:55] <Slashx> Can you guys help
[15:56] <maco> BluesKaj: google earth 5.1 worked
[15:56] <maco> but the option to download it was removed when they put up 6
[15:57] <BluesKaj> maco, is there a source for 5.1 ?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> anywhere
[15:57] <maco> i dont know how to get it anymore
[15:57] <BluesKaj> maco, ok
[15:58] <maco> does 6 not work either?
[15:59] <BluesKaj> not on my seup maco , it uses a deb installer and appears to install properly without errors, but it won't open on my setup
[16:00] <maco> and you get the crash on launch with 5.2?
[16:02] <BluesKaj> no ,6 is the only one available, afaik , maco
[16:05] <Paddy_NI> maco, it does not work unless I change "Workspace" to netbook which is not what I want
[16:05] <Paddy_NI> maco, I will figure this out :)
[16:07] <Paddy_NI> btw what is the latest stable kde version?
[16:08] <Slashx> How do I set startup apps
[16:08] <Paddy_NI> been out of circulation for a time
[16:10] <Guest20939> hello people
[16:13] <maco> Pablito: 4.5 i think
[16:13] <maco> whoops
[16:13] <maco> Pablito: ignore that
[16:30] <MasterOfIntegral> do you remember which kernel didn't have issue with power management: powertop wakeups from [kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick? I've checked all kernels from 2.6.31 to 2.6.36
[16:30] <MasterOfIntegral> I checked all from 2.6.31-36 and they limit my battery life by 50%
[16:31] <MasterOfIntegral> This issue was already filed as a bug in Maverick
[16:37] <BluesKaj> I diddn't like the fact that ths tutorial installed alien on my box but it obviously use a better version of GE-Linux than the ubuntu repos, and the tutorial does work to install GE successfully
[16:37] <BluesKaj> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-google-earth-6-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[16:57] <rethus> have problem to upgrade from 10.04 to maverick, cause i have installed kde 4.5.3 from packports on lucid
[16:57] <rethus> get always the error about kubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <James147> rethus: what error?
[16:57] <rethus> if i remove kubuntu-desktop completly, does all the configfiles of kde still appear in the system?
[16:58] <James147> rethus: removing kde wont remove your user config files, and system ones should only be removed if you purge
[16:58] <atlas> hey all, i have a seemlingly stupid question... but it's actually kinda important to me
[16:58] <James147> !ask | atlas
[16:58] <rethus> what was the cmd-command for upgrading to newer distributiion
[16:58] <atlas> i'm running an upgraded box and a new install of 10.10
[16:59] <rethus> was something likes upgrade-....
[16:59] <James147> rethus: do-realese-updrade
[16:59] <atlas> both running quassel, one system flashes a red/blue Q
[16:59] <James147> ^^ but spelt correctly :)
[16:59] <atlas> and the upgraded system flashes the mail image Q
[16:59] <James147> :P
[16:59] <atlas> when my nick is mentioned.
[16:59] <atlas> how do i get the upgraded box to have the red/blue Q?
[17:00] <atlas> my brain blocks out the other one as noise... but the red Q gets my attention as it should.
[17:01] <rethus> James 147: so if i run this, i got this error http://pastebin.com/Xdzk02dG
[17:01] <James147> atlas: play around with the notifications, I think 10.10 now uses the indicator widget by default, an upgrade could still use the old settings
[17:01] <rethus> so i think about to remove the package and install it later
[17:02] <atlas> thanks you, James147.  the upgraded one uses indicator as well, using libnotify (iinm).
[17:02] <atlas> but that doesn't do a red Q, it's just a white piece of mail sitting quietly until something happens, right?
[17:03] <yofel> yep, and get's a green background when something happens
[17:03] <yofel> quassel 0.7 should always use the red Q though if you don't use the indicator
[17:04] <rethus> James147: so you think i can remove this package, do an upgrade and reinstall this package and all should go well?
[17:04] <James147> rethus: what dose that error mean in english?
[17:05] <yofel> James147: 'Couldn't mark kubuntu-desktop for upgrade', well something like that
[17:05] <rethus> the package kubunut-desktop could'nt mark as upgradable
[17:05] <rethus> kubuntu-desktop is version 1.174.1
[17:06] <James147> atlas: is the system tray icon enabled for quassel?
[17:06] <rethus> James 147: the only other version i have (in synaptic) is 1.174.1
[17:06] <James147> rethus: run "sudo apt-get install -f" andsee if it fixes anything
[17:06] <rethus> i mean 1.174
[17:07] <rethus> James 147: i run it, nothing happend
[17:07] <atlas> James147: yes, the system tray icon is enabled
[17:07] <rethus> means no error found all should run well
[17:09] <James147> atlas: is there any different in the notifications settings for both installs?
[17:10] <James147> rethus: hmm, well I would try a reinstall (sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop) then try the upgrade again (probally wont help, but it cant hurt)
[17:10] <rethus> should i deactivate backports repository while reinstalling?
[17:10] <yofel> rethus: I fear that's beyond update-managers capacity then. A) try to install ppa-purge from lucid-backports and run 'sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'. That will try to downgrade the packgages to something you can upgrade B) try to upgrade by editing sources.list by hand and apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:11] <James147> rethus: not for now...
[17:11] <yofel> James147: kubuntu-desktop isn't the problem, the problem is that update-manager has no chance of sanely resolving the dependencies if you have enabled the backports repository in lucid
[17:11] <yofel> since it tries to upgrade lucid 4.5.3 to maverick 4.5.1
[17:12] <James147> yofel: fairly sure I did an upgrade with it enabled... but I could be wrong :S
[17:12] <rethus> yofel: ppa-purge is a package?
[17:12] <yofel> rethus: it is
[17:12] <James147> yofel: ah, yeah... that could do it... I would have tried ages ago so probally had a lesser version
[17:13] <James147> yofel: and thanks for the hint about ppa-purge :) been looking for something like that
[17:13] <rethus> does this package remove all the backports-repos?
[17:13] <maco> its for removing PPAs
[17:13] <maco> if you mean kubuntu-backports, then yes
[17:13] <maco> but if you mean ubuntu-backports, then no
[17:13] <rethus> wow, ppa-purge seems to do a good job... list me many packages and dependencies
[17:14] <rethus> yofel: so if i let ppa-purge do his job, i got the default kde for 10.04 back?
[17:15] <maco> uhh not for long
[17:15] <maco> the version thats in kubuntu-backports is going into the regular 10.04 updates soon i think
[17:15] <maco> finally got approval after like a year of it to include kde's point releases
[17:15] <yofel> maco: no, what's in kubuntu-updates will go into regular ubuntu-updates soon
[17:15] <maco> hmm ok
[17:16] <maco> too many ppas
[17:16] <yofel> meaning 4.4.5 instead of 4.4.2 for offical lucid
[17:16] <maco> you're right
[17:16] <maco> just re-read emails
[17:16] <rethus> first i was glad to see the concept of LTS versions... but i think the problem is, that there are no realy major-upgrades, only bugfixes and patches, right?
[17:16] <rethus> therefor i go back to make each distribution upgrade
[17:17] <rethus> instead using LTS version
[17:18] <James147> rethus: the point of an LTS is that its stable, not upto date, something like that shouldnt recive major upgrades as they are most likly to break things
[17:19] <James147> rethus: thus is you want the latest stuff then upgrading to the next version of the distro is the best plan
[17:20] <rethus> so this means, kde 5.4.3 never comes to 10.04 ?
[17:20] <yofel> 4.5.3 will never *officially* come to 10.04
[17:21] <yofel> and 4.6 won't even come unofficially, too many new dependencies
[17:21] <James147> rethus: 5.4.3 :S HIGHLY unlikly ;) 4.4.3 ^^ from whyat yofel/maco said it looks like it might, but that is only a minor version increase, its a bugfix/maintance relase
[17:21] <yofel> s/4.4.3/4.4.5/ ;)
[17:22] <rethus> k, thats what i need to know. whats the default kde for 0.10?
[17:22] <maco> bzip: ever go 24h without /nick'ing?
[17:22] <rethus> 10.10
[17:22] <maco> rethus: 4.5.x
[17:22] <bzip> maco: na
[17:22] <yofel> rethus: currently 4.5.1, kubuntu-updates has 4.5.4
[17:22] <bzip> :)
[17:23] <rethus> yofel: so the minor-upgrades are still in kubunut-updates ?!
[17:23] <rethus> 4.5.4 ... 4.5.5 (in future) and so on
[17:23] <yofel> rethus: getting that into official updates is in progress, but takes time
[17:23] <rethus> k, but it will
[17:23] <rethus> or is planed
[17:23] <maco> yes
[17:24] <rethus> great, you help me a lot - now i understand this strategie a little more
[17:26] <Lord_Drachenblut> afternoon maco
[17:26] <maco> hiya Lord_Drachenblut
[17:28] <Lord_Drachenblut> how's it going maco
[17:29] <maco> Lord_Drachenblut: alright. you?
[17:31] <Lord_Drachenblut> not to bad just killing a little time before i take the girlfriend to work.
[17:31] <BluesKaj> maco, i found a tutorial for Google Earth which worked, atho it uses alien to convert from rpm , something I'm not real happy about, but it does work on my setup. http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/install-google-earth-6-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[17:32] <maco> hahah fun
[17:32] <maco> so the earth 6 deb is just plain broken?
[17:32] <BluesKaj> hey yofel
[17:32] <BluesKaj> maco yeah, seems so
[17:33] <yofel_> hey BluesKaj
[17:33] <BluesKaj> this is a bin file , but it's version 6, maco
[17:34] <BluesKaj> yeay, sunshine and blue skies and +4C , finally
[17:34] <rethus> yofel: have done this ppa-purge command you described... my machin installed much other packes...
[17:35] <rethus> now after restart i type kde4-config --version and got
[17:35] <rethus> KDE: 4.5.3 (KDE 4.5.3)
[17:35] <rethus> whats that now?
[17:35] <rethus> doesn't take effect like it should?
[17:35] <yofel> well, I don't know where kde4-config get's it's version from
[17:36] <yofel> but try do-release-upgrade again
[17:36]  * BluesKaj still uses 4.5.1...guess it's the latest stable vers
[17:36] <rethus> the packagemanager looks different like before
[17:36] <rethus> so something happend
[17:36] <yofel> BluesKaj: that's what's in maverick, ppa has 4.5.4
[17:37] <BluesKaj> any benefits to upgrading , yofel ?
[17:37] <yofel> I don't know the bug list, if you don't have any issues leave it I guess
[17:37] <rethus> yofel: packagemanager telles me now he has over 1500 updates
[17:37] <yofel> asking me probably won't help much anyway since I'm running 4.6rc1
[17:38] <yofel> rethus: o.O I wonder if do-release-upgrade forgot to change the sources back..
[17:39] <rethus> i didn't have run do-release-upgrade after ppa-purge
[17:39] <rethus> should i do this?
[17:40] <yofel> I meant from before, but since you want to upgrade run do-release-upgrade now
[17:40] <yofel> phone, back in a few mins
[17:40] <rethus> there i get much deprecatet errors
[17:40] <CyL> Evening folks... It is my first time in KDE, and I'm not getting my way really well in the desktop environemnt... would anyonde recommend a good reading for me to get used to it?
[17:40] <BluesKaj> wll, guess I could run dist-upgrade after adding the ppa backports , but I'm wondering if there are any benefits other than being on the bleeding edge so to speak ?
[17:41] <BluesKaj> !kde | CyL
[17:41] <rethus> yofel: http://pastebin.com/UuCU7Z4B
[17:41] <rethus> yofel: whats now?
[17:41] <James147> CyL: the help center might be useful (kmenu > apps > Help)
[17:43] <rethus> BluesKaj: i advvice you not to use backports... i did and have many problems now to get system to higher distribution (Maverick)
[17:43] <CyL> BluesKaj, James147: thanks
[17:43] <BluesKaj> rethus, I'm already on maverick
[17:44] <rethus> yofel: so what can i do now. do-release-upgrade didn't work, and now i have system with many old packages
[17:44] <rethus> yofel: whats your workarround?
[17:45] <rethus> if i look in sourcelist, there are only maverick-packages
[17:45] <rethus> BluesKaj: backports-problems for lucid may the same in future for maverick
[17:46] <James147> rethus: try changing them back to lucid (I would backup the config file first though)
[17:48] <rethus> whats then
[17:49] <rethus> comment out backports in source.list ?
[17:49] <rethus> james 147
[17:51] <BluesKaj> rethus, did you sudo apt-get update after doing the release upgrade ?
[17:52] <rethus> i have done no release-upgrade... i have only done this ppa-purge-command
[17:52]  * James147 wonders if it would it would be easier to just do a fresh install on maverick instead...
[17:52] <rethus> after that, if i have a look into kpackagemanager i have 1547 updates
[17:52] <rethus> (seems to be the whole system)
[17:52] <rethus> should i run all this updates?
[17:53] <yofel> well, if your sources.list points to maverick that will pretty much upgrade to maverick, just make sure kubuntu-desktop stays installed
[17:53] <BluesKaj> James147, I had not probs using do-release-upgrade , I just mage sure the ppas were all deleted first
[17:54] <rethus> yofel: hope this wil not break my system
[17:54] <rethus> some packages like kubuntu-firefox... are in the kpackagemanager has update-version 10.10
[17:54] <rethus> so it seems this are all maverik packages
[17:55] <rethus> so ppa-purge did make a upgrade to maverik?
[17:55] <yofel> rethus: as I said, make sure 'kubuntu-desktop' is installed after the upgrade, then your system should work
[17:55] <yofel> rethus: no, ppa-purge won't do that
[17:55] <BluesKaj> rethus , no need to run a ppa purge command , just tyake ou the ppas from your sources list then sudo apt-get update , the do-release-upgrade afterwards
[17:55] <yofel> rethus: it's probably since you cancelled do-release-upgrade mid-way with ctrl+c
[17:55] <rethus> yofel: wait... a little slower for me
[17:56] <BluesKaj> then
[17:56] <rethus> i will explain what i do, and you will explain what happend
[17:56] <rethus> i install ppa-purge like you said
[17:56] <yofel> BluesKaj: if you add kubuntu-backports to lucid it's impossible to upgrade to maverick without ppa-purge
[17:56] <rethus> id od the sudo ppa-... command
[17:56] <rethus> my system install much packages a whole time... and ask for restart
[17:56] <rethus> is restart
[17:56] <yofel> rethus: before that, did you ever cancel do-release-upgrade with ctrl+c
[17:56] <rethus> now i have 1547 updates in kpackagemanager...
[17:56] <yofel> ?
[17:57] <rethus> maybe... but if, than before ppa-purge was installed
[17:57] <BluesKaj> yofel, what if you just delete tem from the sources list ?
[17:57] <BluesKaj> them
[17:57] <yofel> BluesKaj: then do-release-upgrade will have to figure out how to upgrade 4.5.3 to 4.5.1 -> FAIL
[17:58] <rethus> so i think: normaly ppa-purge should put my system back to 4.5.1, but it doesn't
[17:59] <BluesKaj> yofel, odd , I just deleted the ppas when I upgraded to maverick from lucid
[17:59] <yofel> rethus: without logs what it actually did and your complete apt setup I can only guess what happened
[17:59] <rethus> why ever... it seems the system is now a little confused (like me)
[18:00] <rethus> so i have no aptitude on my system and < 1500 updates
[18:00] <yofel> rethus: so I would guess: you cancelled d-r-u, which left source.list pointed to maverick, so I have no idea what ppa-purge would do in that case, now you've got a lucid/maverick mixup
[18:01] <rethus> what is d-r-u
[18:01] <yofel> rethus: I would leave the sources pointed to maverick and upgrade with 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[18:01] <yofel> rethus: do-release-upgrade (too much to type all the time)
[18:01] <rethus> k, i'll try
[18:02] <rethus> apt-get dist-upgrade says: 1571 packages.
[18:02] <yofel> sounds reasonable
[18:02] <rethus> yea, so i'll try
[18:03] <rethus> but apt-get say: the following packages are hold back: kubuntu-desktop
[18:03] <BluesKaj> rethus, maybe this will work , but be warned this changes your sources.list to point to maverick repos , sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:03] <yofel> rethus: can you pastebin the output of apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:04] <yofel> BluesKaj: he already has that
[18:04] <BluesKaj> ok
[18:04] <rethus> my sources.list still point to maverick
[18:04] <yofel> cancelling d-r-u mid-way will do exactly that
[18:05] <rethus> http://pastebin.com/CwWbydAa
[18:05] <BluesKaj> dunno why ppl cancel midway , it can't do anything but break stuff :(
[18:05] <rethus> so question is: better change sourcelist back to lucid, do a  ppa-purge again,and than upgrade, or keep this sourcelist and run dist-upgrade
[18:06] <yofel> rethus: that looks good for now
[18:06] <rethus> the pastebin?
[18:06] <rethus> should i run this?
[18:06] <yofel> rethus: yes, apply that for now
[18:07] <BluesKaj> rethus, yeah, just reverse the maverick and lucid in the the command I just posted
[18:07] <yofel> or go BluesKajs way, both are hackish
[18:07] <rethus> you post to change lucid TO maverick, i ask to change maverick to lucid
[18:07] <olskolirc> how do I set an html page as my background please?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> sudo sed -i 's/maverick/lucid/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:08] <olskolirc> for my desktop wallpaper please
[18:09] <rethus> olskolirc: have a look into your plamoids.. search for web:
[18:09] <BluesKaj> ok brb
[18:09] <olskolirc> i made my own rethus and i need to know how to set it
[18:09] <rethus> yofel: i do the dist-upgrade
[18:10] <yofel> rethus: for kubuntu-desktop you'll probably have to add maverick kubuntu-ppa/ppa so you get KDE 4.5.4
[18:10] <rethus> make your own what?
[18:10] <olskolirc> i made my own html wallpaper i need to set it as my desktop wallpaper how do i do that?
[18:10] <rethus> yofel: no thanks, get enough for next time with backports
[18:10] <James147> olskolirc: cant see a way to set it as the background with the kde backdround plugins, but there is the "web slice" widget...  that said there might be a plugin to enable you to do that
[18:11] <rethus> i mean this web slice
[18:11] <rethus> right click on desktop add mini-application search for web
[18:11] <olskolirc> where do I get this web slice James147 please?
[18:12] <James147> olskolirc: right click the desktop > add widgets > search for "Web" drag it to your desktop )(assuming widgets are unlocked)
[18:12] <olskolirc> thanks
[18:12] <rethus> i'm invisible ?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> ok ,Im on :Platform Version 4.5.4 (KDE 4.5.4)
[18:17] <rethus> congratilation
[18:19] <olskolirc> i swear before goodness is these developers can't make their widgets work then take it offline
[18:19] <olskolirc> none of the web widgets work
[18:19] <BluesKaj> rethus, did you run the reverse maverick to lucid in the sources.list command
[18:19] <rethus> i run apt-get distribution upgrade now
[18:20] <rethus> wopuld be the saver way, cause i didn't had aptitude anymore...
[18:20] <olskolirc> that line is so exciting rethus lol
[18:20] <BluesKaj> oh so you're gonna upgrade afterall ?
[18:20] <olskolirc> lucid is broke, maverick is worse
[18:20] <rethus> so i'm afraid there are much other things left the system, which i may need...
[18:20] <rethus> also ppa-purge wasn't anymore on the system
[18:21] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, maverick is worse , how ?
[18:21] <rethus> olskolirc: for me web slices works well
[18:21] <olskolirc> can't mount cdrom BluesKaj there is no entry in /etc/fstab
[18:21] <rethus> whats the error
[18:22] <olskolirc> it ships with pulse audio BluesKaj and no way to go back to alsa unless you uninstall pulse which leaves half of your programs soundless
[18:22] <olskolirc> manyyyyy things wrong with maverick everyone i know that had it dumped it and went back to lucid which messes up vlc and most are back on karmic
[18:24] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, well I need pulseaudio for mencoder audio/video capture ...it seems to work ok on maverick
[18:25] <BluesKaj> olskolirc, vlc is fine on maverick as well, amarok sucks tho so i deleted it
[18:26] <Peace-> BluesKaj: caputre with mencoder?
[18:26] <Peace-> capture
[18:26] <BluesKaj> yup. Peace-
[18:26] <Peace-> vlc?
[18:27] <BluesKaj> mencoder , vlc might if you can get the parameters right but it's too difficult IMO ..VLC works great as aplayer for all codecs tho
[18:28] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i mean capture webcam ? or what?
[18:29] <BluesKaj> Peace-, I have USB capture device to capture video of a pvr , not very high quality , but good enough for a small laptop scrn ...it was a challenge which I finally was able get working
[18:29] <yofel> olskolirc: I don't have an fstab entry for my cdrom either and I can mount them fine here
[18:30] <Peace-> BluesKaj: ok :) give me the mencoder string .... here there is a mencoder ffmpeg lover
[18:30] <Peace-> xD
[18:31] <olskolirc> is this mencoder a cool toy or something?
[18:31] <olskolirc> how are you mounting it yofel
[18:31] <olskolirc> i looked at the forums yofel and noboy was able to do it, got frustrated and quit
[18:31] <yofel> olskolirc: from the device notifier
[18:32] <yofel> but last time I tried even mount would mount /dev/sr0 fine
[18:33] <BluesKaj> My daughter's friend was featued in some cooking shows here and I she asked me to send the videos to her thru dropbox, It was more dificult than I ever imagined because with TiVo it was a breeze, but unfortunately we Cancelled tivo when we weny=t Hidef . TiVo doesn't iffer HDTV service in Canada
[19:04] <BakiBB> Hello,
[19:05] <BakiBB> How do I set up the graphic driver and graph card properties in the terminal?
[19:10] <James147> BakiBB: for which card?
[19:26] <BakiBB> I have a Nvidia 8400GS
[19:26] <BakiBB> <graphic card
[19:27] <kyubutsu> lastfm on rekonq -1  :(
[19:28] <kyubutsu> standalone program for lastfm +1 though  :)
[19:28] <James147> BakiBB: to install the nvidia drivers either run jockey-kde ("hardware drivers" in the menu) or install nvidia-current in kpackagekit or apt-get then run "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to configure it
[19:28] <James147> (nvidia-settings is a gui program)
[19:29] <kyubutsu> he said he wanted to do it via konsole ..
[19:29]  * kyubutsu wonders
[19:30] <James147> kyubutsu: BakiBB: ^^ nvidia-settings is the easiet way, the only other way is to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand
[19:32] <James147> ^^ if installing the driver dosent create an xorg.conf you can run nvidia-xconfig to create a basic one
[19:32] <kyubutsu> just follow the white rabbit to that hardware drivers deal in system settings
[19:33] <kyubutsu> if no drivers come up, prolly means you dont have pci graphics
[19:33] <James147> kyubutsu: he has an nvidia so there will be drivers for it
[19:33] <kyubutsu> just saying
[19:34] <kyubutsu> gimme yours .. i need
[19:34] <kyubutsu> :-P
[19:37] <dsemblano> Someone noticed that KPackagekit crashes everytime on KDE 4.6 RC1 ?
[19:44] <yofel> dsemblano_: known issue
[19:46] <dsemblano_> yofel: hm, thanks for you reply, at least we have synaptic :)
[19:46] <dsemblano_> yofel++
[19:46] <yofel> erm, muon?
[19:47] <yofel> !info muon
[20:51] <mika__> hi, is there anyone who has installed kde 4.6 + kdepim 4.6? (just to know if it's stable enough to install it on a production machine)
[20:52] <James147> mika__: best not to install it on a production machine untill its released
[20:53] <mika__> James147: a rc1 shouldn't be quite stable?
[20:53] <yofel> 4.6 rc1 works mostly fine here, kdepim is only at beta3 though
[20:54] <James147> mika__: it might be, it might not be, something `could` break between now and release.... if you want to keep your mechene stable then its best not to upgrade untill a week or so after it has been released so the devs have time to sortout any issues that might arrise
[20:55] <James147> mika__: if you dont might the chance of something breaking then it should be fine to upgrade, but if you need stability then I would wait abit
[20:55] <mika__> James147: mmm....as it's not so stable yet (it freeze sometimes, it's very slow and stuff like that) i think i can upgrade..
[20:56] <mika__> and maybe sometime reinstall kubuntu again... (time from boot to be ready: 5-8 minutes..... and i've a pc of 1 year old with dual core and 4gb of mem)
[20:56] <yofel> that is long, takes ~2min here
[20:58] <mika__> yofel: yes...too long... i've kontact which do i don't know what..... and i've wait for it near 5 minutes everytime
[20:59] <yofel> mika__: where does it take longest? to login dialog or from there to desktop?
[20:59] <mika__> from the desktop
[20:59] <mika__> to load something into kontact/kmail
[20:59] <mika__> (it goes in disk sleep a lot)
[21:00] <mika__> i actually don't remember the exact process name
[21:17] <woodzy> what program to i need to install to create img or imz (floppy images) files?
[21:22] <James147> woodzy: as far as I know dd can do that
[21:23] <atlas> James147: thank you for your help earlier.  i'm very embarrassed, but digging further i made a very enlightening discovery...  i never upgraded this machine... or more exacly, i didn't upgrade this hard drive, as i have upgraded this laptop... using a different hard drive.  thank you again.
[21:23] <atlas> i'm still running lucid.
[21:23] <atlas> have a great one.
[21:27] <woodzy> dd?
[21:27] <woodzy> unable to locate package dd
[21:29] <DarthFrog> dd isn't a package, it's a utility.
[21:29] <woodzy> how do i use and or install it?
[21:29] <DarthFrog> Just use it.
[21:30] <James147> woodzy: should already be installed, its a command line util to copy one file to another (often used to create images of disks):   "dd if=/dev/sdXX of=~/image.img   should do it
[21:30] <DarthFrog> as to how to use it, what are you trying to do?
[21:30] <djustice> coreutils? where does that come from..
[21:30] <woodzy> create a blank floppy to use with virtualbox.
[21:30] <James147> ^^ rather then /dev/sdXX use the path to the flopy
[21:30] <djustice> ya. coreutils.
[21:30] <DarthFrog> James147 tells you how to use it to do that.
[21:31] <DarthFrog> James147: Isn't it /dev/fd0?
[21:31] <djustice> yep
[21:31] <James147> DarthFrog: probally :D havent had a floppy drive in along time
[21:31] <DarthFrog> Neither have I.   Ancient technology.
[21:31] <djustice> a fake blank floppy is made with bs=8m if=/dev/null
[21:32] <djustice> erf, 1m
[21:32] <woodzy> thanks guys. (sorry 'bout being ancient, its for a project) :)
[21:42] <javier_> Hi. I disabled my user from admin group and I cannot get sudo priviledges now. Someone can help me changing it back?
[21:43] <James147> javier_: use recovery mode, that should give you a root prompt to add your self back
[21:43] <javier_> James147: i've tried that, but cannot manage
[21:43] <javier_> i get a message saying sudoers file doesn't exist
[21:44] <James147> javier_: when you try running what?
[21:45] <javier_> James147: something like "sudo adduser javier admin"
[21:45] <yofel> erm, you don't need sudo if you're logged in as root
[21:46] <javier_> yofel: hi yofel :) you were trying to help me the other day. i didnt have internet since then, that's why im still with this :)
[21:46] <javier_> yes, that's true, it was without sudo. sudo was before trying in recovery mode
[21:47] <yofel> then that message doesn't make sense, adduser doesn't touch sudoers
[21:49] <javier_> mmm, so maybe I wasn't doing it right...
[21:53] <javier_> James147: do you know how to do it from recovery mode?
[21:53] <James147> "adduser javier admin"
[21:56] <javier_> ah, so it's like I was doing
[21:57] <javier_> and do you understand why I get that answer? ("sudoers file doesnt exist")
[21:57] <yofel> javier_: what does 'ls -l /etc/sudoers' tell you?
[21:57] <yofel> should be: -r--r----- 1 root root 575 2010-12-17 08:14 /etc/sudoers
[21:57] <javier_> i can try that
[21:57] <javier_> i will go and try that
[22:22] <frederik> any one pcw?
[22:51] <woodzy> how do i set the volume through the command line?
[22:52] <James147> woodzy: alsamxer
[22:52] <James147> alsamixer even
[22:54] <woodzy> thanks.
[22:56] <kuvu> woodzy: you mean set it up or down?
[22:57] <woodzy> set it at 50%
[22:57] <kuvu> or some base/max?
[22:57] <lui_> hy nikola :-)
[22:57] <woodzy> i wish to create a script to set volume at 50% (or some other percentage)
[22:58] <kuvu> ah..
[23:00] <sdferfx> Hello. nm-applet won't appear on my kde tray even though I have told it to mark the nm-applet icon "Always Visible". Anyone know how to fix this? I'm not using Kubuntu but no one knows in #archlinux and #kde is dead
[23:02] <James147> sdferfx: wont appear at all? or just hidden (clcik the arrow to see hidden apps) and is it running?
[23:13] <woodzy> off topic: but where can i go (irc, obviously) to discuss java programming issues?
[23:14] <maco> ##java
[23:15] <woodzy> maco, i tried, but not sure who to contact since i'm getting a message saying i have to be invited. :-\
[23:16] <maco> are you registered & identified? they may require invites for unregged people
[23:17] <James147> !register | woodzy
[23:35] <woodzy> thanks ubottu; i am registered on this server, james but never got an email like on other servers (was i supposed to?)
[23:38] <woodzy> got my question answered, thanks. :)


[01:07] <wgrant> jml: Hi, how goes your QA?
[01:07] <wgrant> jml: QA delays block the whole team, so they should generally considered just about top priority.
[11:02] <jml> well, I'd reply to wgrant.
[11:02] <jml> but he's not heree
[11:02] <jml> the perils of IRC as a communication medium.
[11:12] <wgrant> jml: Ah, thanks.
[11:12] <wgrant> Apparently I managed to unknowingly suspend irssi a few hours ago...
[11:13] <wgrant> That bug is actually qa-ok -- it may not fix the bug, but it doesn't break existing functionality, so it can be deployed.
[11:13] <jml> wgrant: I was surprised that you weren't around. :)
[11:14] <jml> ok
[11:14] <jml> hmm.
[11:15] <jml> I'm kind of stuck in other things right now, but it would be good if the docs were updated to make that clearer.
[11:15] <wgrant> Indeed.
[11:16] <wgrant> It all sort of changed when nodowntime happened.
[11:17] <jml> yeah
[11:17] <jml> oh
[11:17] <jml> that reminds me
[11:17] <jml> james_w hacked up a prototype base on lpqateam that tracks QA based on revisions, not bugs.
[11:18] <wgrant> Yeah, I saw that.
[11:18] <wgrant> Makes a lot more sense.
[11:18] <StevenK> Does it publish anywhere?
[11:18] <StevenK> wgrant: How did you suspend irssi? I thought it trapped Ctrl-Z?
[11:19] <wgrant> StevenK: So did I.
[11:19] <wgrant> I have no idea how I did it.
[11:19] <StevenK> Hm, it doesn't trap it.
[11:19] <nigelb> Yeah, this has happened to me. Multiple times.
[11:21] <StevenK> I don't tend to hit Ctrl-Z by accident, though.
[11:21] <nigelb> I do. Instead of Ctrl + A.
[11:21] <nigelb> Btw, tracking qa based on revisions is what the deployment report does, right?
[11:21] <nigelb> Or is there something else that jono's talking about?
[11:22] <wgrant> It's similar.
[11:22] <wgrant> Our current one tracks on an awkward hybrid of revisions and bugs.
[11:22] <wgrant> Which has some pretty strange issues.
[11:22] <jml> StevenK: what do you mean "does it publish"?
[11:22] <jml> StevenK: it's a web service with a pretty looking web page
[11:22] <nigelb> oh? what kind of issues?
[11:23] <StevenK> jml: Which is what I meant. What URL is it at?
[11:23] <jml> StevenK: oh right, I can never remember, he hosts it on ec2 or canonistack or something.
[11:24] <jml> http://ec2-184-73-64-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com/
[11:24] <jml> http://ec2-184-73-64-233.compute-1.amazonaws.com/project/Launchpad
[11:25] <nigelb> bah. openid.
[11:25]  * nigelb hopes he has access.
[11:25] <nigelb> Not allowed here.
[11:25] <StevenK> Neither, I suspect I should have ticked the team checkbox
[11:26] <cjwatson> I didn't get a team checkbox.
[11:26] <cjwatson> Maybe it's restricted to ~launchpad or something.
[11:26] <wgrant> It asks for launchpad
[11:26] <wgrant> Not canonical or anything like that
[11:26] <cjwatson> Or anything that might let nigelb see it.
[11:27] <StevenK> Now I'm not sure how to actually tell SSO to let me see it.
[11:27] <nigelb> logout and log back in guess, with the team checked.
[11:31] <StevenK> Which doesn't help, sadly.
[11:31] <StevenK> Since the site itself still knows about me. Maybe I need to delete cookies.
[11:32] <nigelb> Oh by logout, I meant logout of the site.
[11:33] <nigelb> hrm, maybe deleting cookies is a good idea :D
[11:36] <StevenK> nigelb: How does that help, every page gives "Not allowed here."
[11:41] <G> StevenK: I love it when sites do that
[11:41] <G> *cough*
[11:43] <StevenK> Hey, that site does look pretty.
[11:43] <G> wgrant: btw, maybe instead of ^Z you did ^Q (XON Flow control) ;)
[12:24]  * nigelb waves to G
[12:24] <nigelb> StevenK: I meant, flush the cookies, so it forgest your login, so you can re-login, giving it your team credentials.
[12:39] <G> nigelb: howdy


[21:13] <ItzSwirlz> o/ I have a patch for two packages on one bug, this will eventually have to be approved for Groovy aswell, but is a MOTU or someone like that able to review my patch?