[05:23] <Malay_Linux> i hope linux will become easier to young people ;)
[05:23] <Malay_Linux> like me
[05:23] <Malay_Linux>  hehe
[05:23] <mike> vegasmcpc: whats broken now
[05:24] <vegasmcpc> i have a raid array set up, i just need to mount it and i don't want to mess stuff up
[05:25] <vegasmcpc> nothing, the raid array's set up, i just need to know how to get the uuid, etc.
[05:25] <mike> vegasmcpc: copy n paste the original somewhere safe 1st
[05:25] <mike> then go to town,,:)
[05:25] <Dr_willis> Malay_Linux,  problem with focusing on   (not to be insulting) "Total-beginner-idiots-newbies" is that they expect the OS to Bend over backwards for them.. THEN do a backflip.. they dont want to put forth any effort to learn the very compex tool that a computer is.
[05:26] <Malay_Linux> how to play mpeg2 file at Ubuntu?
[05:26] <vegasmcpc> ok, i saved a backup as /etc/fstab.backup
[05:26] <Dr_willis> vlc/mplayer/xine/totem should be able to play those..
[05:26] <mike> Dr_willis: oh how insulting
[05:26] <Dr_willis> mike,  :)
[05:26] <Malay_Linux> really
[05:26] <Dr_willis> very visual..
[05:26] <vegasmcpc> mike: now what do i do?
[05:26] <Apallo_> i am having trouble with the power management on my laptop...it is reporting that the processor is running at 600mhz while plugged in
[05:27] <surgy> dr_willis: linux will bend over backwards for anyone if they touch her just right :)
[05:27] <Apallo_> where can i find the options to turn off cpu throttling?
[05:27] <mike> Apallo_: bios
[05:27] <Apallo_> is that the only way?
[05:28] <Apallo_> cause i'd rather turn it off in the software
[05:28] <surgy> malay_linux: did you learn from google? or do any research since our last talk?
[05:29] <mike> Apallo_: system setting in advanced?
[05:29] <vegasmcpc> what's the command in konsole to find the uuid of a device?
[05:29] <Apallo_> i only get disk & filesystems, System Services and login manager
[05:30] <mortix> wennnassss
[05:30] <mortix> algun chileno en kubuntu?
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | mortix
[05:30] <ubotu> mortix: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:30] <surgy> mortix: this is english channel
[05:30] <Admiral_Chicago> actually, what is chile speak
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> what is spoken in Chile?
[05:31] <surgy> spanish?
[05:31] <mortix> ok, thank ;) is my first time
[05:31] <Apallo_> portuguese?
[05:31] <surgy> np
[05:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Apallo_: spanish
[05:31] <Apallo_> ahh
[05:31] <Apallo_> just taking a guess...
[05:31] <mortix> how change chanel?
[05:32] <mortix> :s
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> mortix: /join #kubuntu-es
[05:32] <Malay_Linux> not really
[05:33] <surgy> malay_linux: you need to know the basics. you need to know your processor your amount of ram etc etc what an OS is and how it works.... and a few dozen other things that your not going to learn here
[05:33] <Malay_Linux> thats thing i  know already
[05:34] <vegasmcpc> anybody know the command in konsole that shows the details of a device, such as the uuid?
[05:34] <surgy> malay_linux: ok then ask a direct question, and you will get a direct answer
[05:34] <surgy> vehasmcpc: check your fstab?
[05:34] <Apallo_> lspci?
[05:34] <unix_infidel> what about the uid?
[05:35] <surgy> no idea there
[05:35] <Apallo_> is the restricted formats page on the wiki outdated or something?
[05:35] <KaoticEvil> does anyone have a ZyXel AG-225H USB wireless adapter?
[05:36] <surgy> apallo_: why do you ask?
[05:36] <Apallo_> i did all the stuff on there and can't get my videos to work
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I think wiki pages get outdated the moment they are written. :)
[05:36] <Malay_Linux> i know basic about windows or linux
[05:36] <Dr_willis> thats why they are wikis :)
[05:36] <surgy> !wireless | kaoticwvil
[05:36] <ubotu> kaoticwvil: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:36] <Malay_Linux> but i want learn basic of hacking (not cracking)
[05:36] <surgy> malay_linux: then maybe you should start with learning irc
[05:37] <surgy> malay_linux and no mater what nick or how you ask this is not the channel to ask a question about hacking in
[05:37] <Malay_Linux> ohh sorry for that
[05:37] <Malay_Linux> erm.... IRC
[05:37] <bonbonthejon> Malay_Linux: what do you mean by hacking, coding or the illegal stuff
[05:38] <Malay_Linux> where should i start
[05:38] <Dr_willis> reading the Bash beginners guide....
[05:38] <surgy> malay_linux: just to make you read.......... http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/?page_name=how%20to%20hack%20linux
[05:38] <Dr_willis> then some linux begeinner guides..
[05:38] <KaoticEvil> surgy: thats not exactly what i was looking for
[05:38] <Apallo_> !ubotu restricted formats
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <Dr_willis> perhaps a scripging language or 2 guides..
[05:38] <Dr_willis> like Python - thats always good to learn.
[05:38] <surgy> kaoticevil: thats all i know or i whould give you more sorry
[05:39] <surgy> dr_willis: python isnt as easy as they claim
[05:39] <unix_infidel> sure it is
[05:39] <n8k99> Malay_Linux: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
[05:40] <surgy> unix_infidel: not for me at least
[05:40] <Dr_willis> surgy,  but it teaches good skills. :)
[05:40] <Dr_willis> and comes in handy
[05:40] <KaoticEvil> hmmm. well, it does mention the adapter... looks like i'll be swapping all my wifi cards around o_o
[05:40] <unix_infidel> surgy: well, it all depends on what you want to do with it.
[05:40] <Dr_willis> of course I like REXX - but im weird..
[05:40] <genii> Weird can be good
[05:40] <unix_infidel> coding py tk inter or pygtk stuff is hard, simple io and text stuff is easy.
[05:40] <surgy> unix_infidal, dr_willis mind bringing this up in #welovebeingofftopic   ?
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> is there a tutorial for qt aimed for kubuntu
[05:41] <unix_infidel> the interation stuff is a LOT harder to grasp if you're coming from like C or perl.
[05:42] <mike> Is there an easy way to install beryl?
[05:42] <mike> she's hot
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> !beryl
[05:42] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:42] <Dr_willis> How about 'whats a good  "what should total beginners learn about linux first" guide'
[05:42] <n8k99> bonbonthejon: i dunno if its specific for kubuntu but kde.org has some tutorials
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> n8k99: i think i looked there, but the qt libs they wanted were old, and i never got it to compile
[05:42] <surgy> mike: there is an auto install script
[05:42] <surgy> mike: join #beryl
[05:43] <n8k99> bonbonthejon: there has been some work on it recently
[05:43] <mike> surgy: what about a repo/
[05:43] <n8k99> bonbonthejon: at least the tutorials use kdevelop3
[05:43] <surgy> mike: join #beryl
[05:43] <genii> Are there any short introduction to KDE/Kubuntu movies playable on the computer which someone knows about? I am supplying a lot of systems pre-installed with Dapper to novices and want to put an instructional video on the desktop to help them out.
[05:44] <Malay_Linux> thanks again
[05:45] <Malay_Linux> i can got linux easily but how can i get unix?
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> Malay_Linux: what do you mean
[05:45] <surgy> malay_linux: man your fixing to piss me off................. go look it up start at http://www.google.com this is kubuntu support not hacking or unix
[05:45] <Malay_Linux> i want to know something about unix
[05:45] <Malay_Linux> anyone can help me?
[05:46] <genii> Malay_Linux There are currently 2 free unix releases, FreeBSD and FreeSolaris
[05:46] <vas> why whenever I try to run Eclipse.exe in /opt it asks me what I want to open it with?
[05:46] <bonbonthejon> Malay_Linux: learn linux first
[05:46] <Malay_Linux> OIC
[05:46] <Malay_Linux> ok tq
[05:46] <vas> "/opt/eclipse"
[05:46] <Jucato> Malay_Linux: please do some research first. This is channel is for Kubuntu support questions
[05:46] <Malay_Linux> ooooh
[05:47] <surgy> sorry for bad language
[05:47] <x04ty29er> hence the kubuntu in the title
[05:47] <Jucato> Malay_Linux: there are many articles, links, pages, and even some IRC channels for Linux or UNIX. but please try to research. http://www.google.com
[05:47] <surgy> x04ty29er: i think you have the hardest to type nick ive ever seen.... nice to meet you
[05:47] <vas> I think its an extremely simple problem considering i's so simple yet going so wrong
[05:47] <x04ty29er> surgy: lol
[05:48] <x04ty29er> ive heard that alot
[05:48] <genii> Anyone know some links to instructional videos for Kubuntu?
[05:48] <x04ty29er> i guess its a compliment
[05:48] <x04ty29er> nice to meet you too
[05:48] <Jucato> surgy: that's why I love Tab completion on IRC :)
[05:48] <n8k99> surgy x04ty29er is easy to autocomplete
[05:48] <x04ty29er> lol
[05:48] <surgy> genii: there is a little video on the kubuntu live cd that tells the history of the word "ubuntu" that might be a good one
[05:48] <bonbonthejon> genii: there might be some videos on youtube
[05:49] <vas> anyone else ever get this problem?
[05:49] <Jucato> genii: Google? can't think of any from the top of my head, but I'm sure there are some
[05:49] <bonbonthejon> genii: there is also http://www.ubuntuvideo.com/
[05:49] <surgy> vas: whats problem again sorry
[05:49] <genii> surgy , bonbonthejon I'm looking for something I can download and put on a bunch of systems to help out new users who get the boxes
[05:50] <surgy> genii: let me see what i got
[05:50] <vas> surgy: its k :) ... Whenever I try to open Eclipse.exe in /opt/eclipse/ It asks me what I want to open it with
[05:50] <genii> surgy Cool, thanks
[05:50] <n8k99> bonbonthejon: did you try http://developer.kde.org/ ?
[05:50] <vas> wait!
[05:50] <vas> it works
[05:50] <Jucato> vas: you would need to have wine installed
[05:51] <Apallo_> ok i give up...the wiki directions aren't working
[05:51] <vas> nevermind it was being weird
[05:51] <vas> jucato: It is the linux version anyways
[05:51] <Jucato> ok...
[05:51] <surgy> vas: .exe programs are for windows use the comand "wine eclipse.exe" becuase wine is your win32 application layer
[05:51] <Jucato> Apallo_: what are you trying to do?
[05:51] <bonbonthejon> n8k99: yes
[05:51] <genii> bonbonthejon: The ubuntuvideo site is good but gnome-oriented :(
[05:51] <vas> surgy: oooh ok I understand.. Wine probably having a laggy moment then - forgive my inexperience
[05:51] <bonbonthejon> genii: you could make some videos and submit them
[05:51] <Apallo_> get the restricted format stuff working for mp3 and video playback
[05:52] <n8k99> bonbonthejon: ok- just checking
[05:52] <vas> thnx!
[05:52] <surgy> vas: not a problem
[05:52] <Apallo_> and the directions on the wiki aren't working
[05:52] <genii> bonbonthejon: This is true but I'm on on a strict timeline
[05:52] <Jucato> Apallo_: simply install libxine-extracodecs for MP3
[05:52] <surgy> genii: check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMa6E5rnxI8
[05:52] <Jucato> Apallo_: if you're on Kubuntu Edgy and you try to play an MP3, you will be prompted for an option to install it
[05:52] <Apallo_> apt tells me it can't find the package
[05:52] <genii> surgy Thanks, checking it out now
[05:52] <Apallo_> i'm more worried about video playback, i know about the mp3 thing
[05:53] <raylu> Sounds like Appallo_ doesn't have the right repositories
[05:53] <vas> 1 more question, kind of a preference/opinion one though: I am working on a bogging app Called Guava in PHP, I keep the files in /opt/lampp/htdocs although I preferably enjoy a My Projects folder in my Home folder.. what do other people do about this?
[05:53] <genii> Damn, more gnome-centric
[05:53] <Jucato> Apallo_: libxine-extracodecs also handles those
[05:53] <vas> keeping all my 'files' in my home folder simplifies backing up and general orginization
[05:53] <surgy> genii: ok http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5676029952918957384&q=intro+to+kubuntu&hl=en
[05:53] <raylu> vas, depending on your server, it may be possible to set your server's home directory to your user's home directory
[05:53] <Jucato> Apallo_: the only things it doesn't  handle are Window Media formats and Real Media
[05:54] <surgy> genii: walks you through updates
[05:54] <vas> raylu: xampp.. I will have to investigate b/c i'm new to the linux version
[05:54] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: lol @ Mako Hell [/offtopic]
[05:54] <genii> surgy Excellent :)
[05:54] <surgy> genii: kindof crappy resolution though
[05:54] <vas> great, once again thnx!
[05:55] <Apallo_> Jucato: http://www.pastebin.ca/raw/365726  <= the output i am getting
[05:55] <surgy> genii: thats all i got man
[05:55] <genii> surgy Still fine for my needs, thanks again.
[05:55] <surgy> genii: not a problem
[05:55] <Jucato> Apallo_: are you on Kubuntu Edgy? did you try to play an MP3 in Amarok? it will launch a script that automates all these
[05:56] <unix_infidel> !fiesty
[05:56] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:56] <Apallo_> Jucato: i know...i am more worried about the video codecs
[05:56] <unix_infidel> uhh, it gets released in almost 2 months and its still alpha...
[05:56] <Jucato> Apallo_: libxine-extracodecs also handles those video codecs
[05:56] <unix_infidel> how's that a good thing?
[05:56] <bonbonthejon> did anyone who upgraded to feisty have any problems like people were having upgrading to edgy?
[05:56] <Jucato> Apallo_: the only things it doesn't  handle are Window Media formats and Real Media
[05:56] <Apallo_> Jucato: you are giving me a catch 22 here...
[05:56] <Jucato> that's the 2nd time I said that
[05:57] <raylu> Apallo_, the thing is
[05:57] <Jucato> Apallo_: libxine-extracodecs is the package that installs the codecs for media formats like MP3, AVI, etc
[05:57] <Apallo_> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[05:57] <raylu> playing an MP3 in Amorak will install libxine-extracodecs which will play videos
[05:57] <cj_> Jucato: do you know Dynamic loader support
[05:57] <Jucato> cj_: no.
[05:57] <Apallo_> i know, i was trying to install it
[05:57] <cj_> ammm system calls
[05:57] <raylu> ...so what Jucato is saying is...
[05:58] <Jucato> Apallo_: there's a script in Amarok that will add the proper repository so that you will not have that error
[05:58] <raylu> to not try installing manually and letting Amorak do it for you
[05:58] <Apallo_> ahh
[05:58] <Apallo_> thank you
[05:58] <Jucato> Apallo_: Amarok will run the script that will automate the installation of libxine-extracodecs, which is a package that will allow you to play MP3 *AND* AVI's
[05:58] <raylu> Jucato, does the repos really not come with the default installation?
[05:59] <Jucato> raylu: prior to feisty, the "multiverse" section is not added by default
[05:59] <Jucato> they're going to add it by default in Feisty, afaik
[05:59] <raylu> Ah, awesome.
[05:59] <Apallo_> ahhh, i thought i was missing something!
[06:00] <surgy> jucato: why not add all the repos by defualt and leave it up to the end user to deselect the ones they dont want?
[06:00] <Kite_DH> jucato?
[06:00] <Jucato> surgy: that's what they will be doing in Feisty, except for -backports I think
[06:00] <Kite_DH> do you know how to make screenshots  while rotating the cube?
[06:00] <Kite_DH> =/
[06:00] <Kite_DH> i tryied everything lol
[06:01] <surgy> jucato: even restricted?
[06:01] <raylu>  I did it too...I just rotated it and press Print screen
[06:01] <Jucato> Kite_DH: launch KSnapshot, set it to a certain delay
[06:01] <raylu>  *pressed
[06:01] <Jucato> surgy: restricted has always been enabled by default
[06:01] <surgy> kite_DH: make a macro for screen shot
[06:01] <Jucato> Kite_DH: then click on "New Snapshot", rotate the cube, and wait
[06:02] <Kite_DH> ok
[06:02] <surgy> jucato: oh..... the binary driver howto is wasting noob prescious time then..... half the guide is about enableing restricted
[06:02] <Jucato> surgy: probably unnecessary, as KSnapshot has a delay feature
[06:02] <surgy> jucato: always nice to have a macro for screenshot for debuging purposes
[06:02] <Jucato> surgy: ah! it only happend in starting Edgy. afaik, Dapper didn't have restricted enabled by default
[06:04] <surgy> jucato: should update the howto :)
[06:04] <Jucato> hm?
[06:04] <Jucato> !nvidia
[06:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:06] <Jucato> surgy: unless you're referring to something other than the official wiki, I can't seem to see what you were referring to
[06:06] <Jucato> oh wait, I was looking at ATI's
[06:06] <surgy> jucato: i shale get you a qoute
[06:07] <surgy> jucato: at this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia the whole section after prerequisites
[06:07] <Jucato> surgy: you do have to note that the wiki must cater to both Dapper and whatever's the current release. so we can't remove the instructions for enabling restricted
[06:07] <Jucato> yes I see that
[06:08] <Jucato> for one, that section really is only appropriate for Ubuntu only. second, there's nothing wrong with actually checking if it's enabled :)
[06:08] <surgy> jucato: agreed..... how whould one start a project to make a set of pages like this for kubuntu? as to kater to us?
[06:09] <Jucato> surgy: you can if you want :)
[06:09] <Jucato> all you need is to sign up for the wiki. anything in help.ubuntu.com/community is user/community documentation
[06:10] <Jucato> just exercise a bit of caution when adding/removing stuff, making sure your steps can be reliably reproduced on other systems
[06:10] <surgy> jucato: and you guys will host it....... hmmmm i might start that..... whats the chances of gaining you guys support on such a project?
[06:10] <raylu>  Haha. "kater"
[06:10] <Jucato> but fwiw, Feisty will have a Software Properties-like utility for Kubuntu
[06:10] <surgy> jucato: im reffering to a kubuntu specific wiki
[06:11] <Jucato> surgy: what do you mean? the user documentation is open for everybody
[06:11] <Jucato> surgy: there's no need for a separate site. all you need to do is either add Kubuntu-specific instructions or create a Kubuntu sub-page
[06:12] <raylu>  It would be easier to browse/search through if it were a seperate wiki
[06:12] <raylu>  though harder to get ubuntu information that applies to kubuntu, I guess
[06:12] <Jucato> surgy: for other documentation/wiki concerns, feel free to drop by #ubuntu-docs
[06:12] <jtmoney> can someone please tell me what is going on with the white cube bug in beryl? i've read too many forums to come away with anything
[06:12] <Jucato> raylu: actually it would even be harder
[06:12] <surgy> jucato: concentrating a bit of our efforts maybe anyone who knows something about kde or how to do it thats not specificly listed for kde can make a how to for it. turn it into a db and then make it a standalone support site. where we dont get ubuntu related instructions it can be kindof hard sometime for a newbie to convert such things
[06:12] <raylu>  white cube bug?
[06:12] <Jucato> raylu: we're trying to actually gather documentations in one place, not separate it :)
[06:13] <raylu>  yeah, I understand that
[06:13] <jtmoney> Dr_willis: yeah, i know
[06:13] <jtmoney> i bought a new laptop today for it
[06:13] <surgy> jucato: does that make sense?
[06:13] <jtmoney> how pathetic
[06:13] <Dr_willis> heh
[06:13] <Jucato> surgy: tbh, no
[06:13] <jay_> what argument for dpkg can you use to find out the requirements of a deb package?
[06:13] <raylu>  without installing it?
[06:13] <jtmoney> Dr_willis: what about compiz?
[06:14] <jtmoney> isn't that supposed to be somewhat more stable?
[06:14] <surgy> jucato: for example..... when i first picked up linux i hopped onto a ubuntu site and saw a howto on changeing the fstab..... it sasy "sudo gedit " well kubuntu uses nano by defualt not gedit and those things cause great confusion for newbies
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jtmoney,  i tend to test thest things out with the various live cd's
[06:14] <draik> Hello Jucato
[06:14] <Dr_willis> jtmoney,  dont forget that Metiss also.. (or was it mettiss?)
[06:15] <Jucato> hi draik!
[06:15] <draik> Howdy y'all
[06:15] <Jucato> surgy: true. but that's out of Kubuntu's direct control. in that situation, the best way would be to contact the owner of the site/howto
[06:15] <Adydas> surgy: Thats beacuse ubuntu help is based on gnome
[06:15] <Adydas> kubutu help is based on KDE
[06:15] <Jucato> surgy: for thing under the wiki, anyone can easily put in kubuntu-specific instructions
[06:15] <surgy> jucato: that example is even evident in most of the how toos ubotu shows
[06:16] <jtmoney> Dr_willis: looks pretty good
[06:16] <surgy> i see
[06:16] <jtmoney> i think i'll resume in feisty fox
[06:16] <jtmoney> this is too broken for me right now
[06:16] <Adydas> ubuntu gnome kubuntu kde
[06:16] <jtmoney> well, beryl is anyways
[06:16] <Jucato> surgy: I do realize the need for more Kubuntu instructions, but that problem will not be solved by a separate site/wiki
[06:16] <surgy> adydas...... i know that........ thanks for insult :)
[06:16] <Jucato> surgy: all the more, it makes it even more difficult to maintain such a site
[06:17] <Adydas> It sounded like you didnt, what i was getting at was subsitute a gedit command for a kde based on
[06:17] <jay_> any one here runs "emesene"? Whhere can i get python2.4-gtk2?
[06:17] <yuriy> surgy: just whenever you see only gedit on the wiki, edit and put in "or on kubuntu: kwrite..."
[06:17] <Dr_willis> jtmoney,  i tried to install mandriva to hd just to test it out more.. it failed.. I hope metisse gets included as an option inother disrtos soon.
[06:17] <Jucato> Adydas: we were sort of discussing something else
[06:17] <surgy> jucato: agreed. but kubuntu is as big if not bigger than ubuntu's comunity so why do they get all the good howtos/wiki ?
[06:17] <Dr_willis> heh - some of the wikis/howtos are very bad.. :)
[06:17] <Jucato> surgy: not sure your premise is correct
[06:17] <surgy> yuriy: i know that now im talking about making it easier for newcommers not myself
[06:17] <fearl> Hello, I'm running Feisty, I'm wondering how I might go about removing my repeated GTK Styles and Fonts KControl entry
[06:18] <Dr_willis> I think there needs to be a Kbunmtu/Ubuntu AND "console" versions  for each one.
[06:18] <Jucato> surgy: because ubuntu users spend their time actually writing something :)
[06:18] <yuriy> surgy: that is what i mean. edit the wiki to make it easier for newcomers
[06:18] <Jucato> fearl: please ask in #ubuntu+1?
[06:18] <surgy> yuriy: will do
[06:18] <Gerald> speaking of tect editors, why does kate give CLI errors when I try and invoke it from the CLI, such as "sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces"
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu users are not as disrtacted by the useable desktop as us Kubuntu guys are..
[06:18] <Dr_willis> so they got time to write howtos
[06:18] <Adydas> Gerald: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[06:18] <surgy> geral: kdesu kate not sudo kate :)
[06:18] <Dr_willis> Gerald,  first guess.. the wacom tablet entrys in the xorg.conf
[06:19] <Jucato> surgy: see, this is the reason why. some ubuntu users see a need for a guide, and they make it. kubuntu users see the need for kubuntu-specific instructions, and they ask why there isn't any :)
[06:19] <fearl> Jucato: Nice suggestion... I'm banned.... do you know where KControl module lists are located?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Gerald,  but whats the exact error?
[06:19] <surgy> !kdesu | gerald
[06:19] <ubotu> gerald: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:19] <Jucato> fearl: try #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-ops to ask why you're banned
[06:19] <yuriy> !info kwrite feisty
[06:19] <ubotu> Package kwrite does not exist in feisty
[06:19] <surgy> jucato: agreed
[06:19] <Jucato> yuriy: kwrite isn't a separate package
[06:19] <Gerald> oh, ok... no wonder... been an ubuntu user until a couple of days ago
[06:20] <bumzo> hi giys
[06:20] <Jucato> yuriy: technically, kwrite is a simplified wrapper around katepart :)
[06:20] <yuriy> Jucato: is it part of kate? just that for some reason i recall not having it by default on herd 4, i wanted to make sure i wasn't saying something wrong to surgy
[06:20] <bumzo> how do i instal a .tar.gz file on kubuntu?
[06:20] <Jucato> yuriy: it's part of kdebase
[06:20] <bumzo> ?
[06:20] <Adydas> Gerald: i reccomend JED for what its worth as a text editor
[06:20] <Jucato> bumzo: that depends? is it source code? what are you trying to install?
[06:21] <Adydas> bumzo: gunzip it then untar it
[06:21] <Adydas> but chances are apt-get may be far easyer
[06:21] <Jucato> Adydas: no need for 2 separate processes. tar -xzvf takes care of both :D
[06:21] <Dr_willis> i like 'fte' for a console editor.. of course mc and its mcedit is handy
[06:21] <Adydas> you know, i know that.. but for some reason i still and will allways do it the other way
[06:21] <bumzo> am installing firefox mozilla
[06:21] <Adydas> how dumb..
[06:22] <Adydas> bumzo: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !unp
[06:22] <Jucato> bumzo: you can install firefox from the repositories.
[06:22] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:22] <bumzo> i have downloaded the .tar.gz file ... its just sitting on my home folder
[06:22] <Gerald> the error i get, even with kdesu, is...
[06:22] <Dr_willis> im real lazy and use 'unp'  :)
[06:22] <surgy> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <bumzo> something wrong with my repository coz it wont install
[06:22] <Gerald> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[06:22] <Gerald>   Major opcode:  145
[06:22] <Gerald>   Minor opcode:  3
[06:22] <Gerald>   Resource id:  0x0
[06:22] <Gerald> Failed to open device
[06:22] <Jucato> !pastebin | Gerald
[06:22] <ubotu> Gerald: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:22] <Adydas> bumzo: ok kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:22] <Gerald> sorry
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Gerald,  thats the wacom tablet 'feature' that gets asked about soooooooo        many times. :)
[06:23] <raylu>  Adydas, might want to ask for the error first
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Gerald,  its just a warning.. dosetn affect anything
[06:23] <Adydas> the past 4 people ive helped today have had the repos turned off by #s i was going to check that wasnt the case here first
[06:23] <raylu>  oh
[06:23] <Gerald> but as often as i use the CLI to invoke text editors, my log file is going to file up with useless warnings
[06:24] <Gerald> lol
[06:24] <Adydas> if thats no the case, your suggestion was mine
[06:24] <Jucato> Gerald: agreed. they're useless and harmless though
[06:24] <bumzo> wow wow wow ....english guys .. am a rookie
[06:24] <Gerald> is there a way to prevent that warning?
[06:24] <Adydas> bumzo: open up a console
[06:25] <Adydas> and run the command
[06:25] <Adydas> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:25] <bumzo> says ''unable to unlock the administration directory, is another process using it?''
[06:25] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yes, mako said it was cute
[06:25] <surgy> jucato: seams i have an account at your wiki allready :)
[06:25] <Jucato> surgy: it's not my wiki :)
[06:25] <Gerald> wonders why anyone would use FF
[06:26] <raylu>  bumzo, that's not an issue with your repositories. Do you have the add/remove programs thing open or adept?
[06:26] <surgy> jucato: our wiki*
[06:26] <Adydas> ill say.. Opera
[06:26] <xoss> how do i update konqueror??
[06:26] <surgy> bumzo: terminate anything using root and try again
[06:26] <raylu>  xoss, to what?
[06:26] <Gerald> opera is nice but it's not free software
[06:26] <bumzo> thats whn i run ''sudo agt-get install firefox'' from bumzo@bumzo:$
[06:26] <Adydas> trust you to be right raylu
[06:26] <Adydas> its not free?
[06:26] <Gerald> no
[06:26] <Dr_willis> opera is free but not 'free' :)
[06:26] <raylu>  huh?
[06:26] <yuriy> opera is what makes me not a FOSS zealot
[06:26] <Dr_willis> No cost.. but not GPL.
[06:26] <Gerald> free as in freedom is all i will use
[06:26] <bumzo> yes .,..and fireforx is greyed out as in disabled
[06:26] <surgy> free means "freedom" guys not free of charge......
[06:27] <Adydas> o ok
[06:27] <Gerald> libre software is another term
[06:27] <xoss> better yet how do i update my kubuntu 6.10...
[06:27] <surgy> bumzo try closing everything and typing this in console: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:27] <Dr_willis> I try to like opera.. but the more i use it.. the more i dont like it..
[06:27] <bumzo> how do i terminate everything using root?
[06:27] <raylu>  bum
[06:27] <raylu>  ack
[06:27] <Adydas> close it
[06:27] <surgy> bumzo: click the little x button
[06:27] <raylu>  bumzo, you definitely don't want to do that.
[06:27] <Gerald> lol
[06:28] <bumzo> the console window is closed
[06:28] <Dr_willis> well bbl
[06:28] <Jucato> bumzo: is Adept or Add/Remove Programs still opened?
[06:28] <yuriy> xoss: when there are updates a little icon appears in your system tray
[06:28] <jay_> any one here runs "emesene"? Whhere can i get python2.4-gtk2?
[06:28] <yuriy> xoss: you click it, put in your password, and tell it to update
[06:29] <Gerald> anyone know how to stop that stupid message from appearing when invoking kate from the CLI?
[06:29] <raylu>  jay_, have you tried installing it with apt?
[06:29] <Jucato> Gerald: comment out/remove the wacom entried in xorg.conf
[06:29] <Gerald> ok, cool, thanks
[06:29] <xoss> yuriy: how do i do it with apt??
[06:30] <bumzo> ok guys this gets interesting
[06:30] <yuriy> xoss: you mean command line?
[06:30] <bumzo> i closed everything
[06:30] <bumzo> rane the command ''sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:30] <xoss> yuriy: yes..
[06:30] <bumzo> this is what i got ..
[06:30] <yuriy> xoss: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[06:30] <xoss> yuriy: thanks
[06:30] <yuriy> xoss: or even better aptitude instead of apt-get
[06:30] <Jucato> er..
[06:30] <bumzo> ''reading package list ... done
[06:31] <bumzo> building dependancy tree .. .done
[06:31] <Jucato> yuriy, xoss: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:31] <Jucato> !pastebin | bumzo
[06:31] <ubotu> bumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <yuriy> Jucato: my bad, i don't usually use the && (but it works without the extra sudo if you put in quotes)
[06:32] <Jucato> yuriy: heheh :)
[06:32] <bumzo> package firefox is notavailable, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsolete or is only available from another surce
[06:32] <Jucato> O.o
[06:32] <Adydas> sounds like repos..
[06:32] <raylu>  copy paste is your friend
[06:32] <bumzo> however the following package replace it    libnss3
[06:32] <Gerald> bumzo... it's an omen. you're meant to not use firefox
[06:32] <Jucato> yuriy: btw, it seems that dist-upgrade is preferred to upgrade recently...
[06:32] <bumzo> e:package firefox has no installation candidate
[06:32] <Gerald> dillo is calling you, bumzo
[06:33] <bumzo> bumzo@Bumzo :$
[06:33] <Jucato> bumzo: next time, don't paste multiple lines of text in the channel please. thanks
[06:33] <Gerald> where did that name come from, bumzo?
[06:33] <yuriy> Jucato: that's usually for a development release.. or at least in the past for stable releases you only needed upgrade (i always do dist-upgrade myself, i guess i should stop telling people to do things other than what i use myself)
[06:33] <raylu>  Gerald: ew! gtk!!
[06:33] <Gerald> hates dillo since it
[06:34] <Gerald> is featureless
[06:34] <Jucato> yuriy: usually, yes. but Adept and Synaptic are configured to use dist-upgrade when you use the Full Upgrade feature (forgot the name in Synaptic)
[06:34] <bumzo> ok jucato .. i acltually typed out the error mesage from console :)
[06:34] <yuriy> Gerald: i think you're missing the /me at the beginning of your messages ;)
[06:34] <Gerald> konq seems to have too many config options
[06:34] <raylu>  Too many? And opera doesn't?
[06:35] <lunitik> Gerald: try Krusader or Dolphin (probably not part of Edgy though)
[06:35] <Gerald> operas configs are more elegantly laid out in tabs
[06:35] <bumzo> so anyone with an idea of what i should do?
[06:35] <Jucato> !info dolphin
[06:35] <Gerald> bumzo, compile from source
[06:35] <ubotu> dolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 238 kB, installed size 932 kB
[06:35] <lunitik> Gerald: ahh... scratch that... try Firefox... heh
[06:35] <jay_> not in the repos
[06:35] <bumzo> gerald ... how do i do that
[06:35] <yuriy> jay_: python2.4-gtk2 is in the repos...
[06:35] <bumzo> keep in mind am a rookie
[06:35] <yuriy> !info python2.4-gtk2 | jay_
[06:35] <ubotu> jay_: Package python2.4-gtk2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:35] <yuriy> ooh nvm lol
[06:35] <Gerald> bumzo, compiling from source is not rocket science
[06:35] <yuriy> it's in feisty
[06:36] <raylu>  didn't someone say bumzo had a repos issue?
[06:36] <bumzo> ok ... how do i do that?
[06:36] <Gerald> there are tons of articles out there on how to do it
[06:36] <raylu>  I really don't think it's neccesary to compile FF from source...that's a bit overkill
[06:36] <yuriy> !info python2.3-gtk2
[06:36] <bumzo> raylu? as in
[06:36] <jay_> except i'm running edgy
[06:36] <ubotu> Package python2.3-gtk2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:36] <Gerald> go to the ubuntu forums and there are how-tos
[06:36] <Jucato> !info python-gtk2
[06:36] <ubotu> python-gtk2: Python bindings for the GTK+ widget set. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1406 kB, installed size 5056 kB
[06:36] <bumzo> or should i just re install this whole thing...will that help?
[06:36] <Jucato> yuriy: ^^^
[06:36] <surgy> a few subtle changes to nvidia howto :)
[06:36] <Jucato> bumzo: no
[06:36] <yuriy> jay_: ^^^
[06:37] <Jucato> !pastebin | bumzo
[06:37] <bumzo> atleast in windows  that usually gets rid of alot of probs .. reinstall lol
[06:37] <ubotu> bumzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:37] <Gerald> raylu, but FF compiled from source always runs faster, since you can add options for runtime you cant with the binary blob
[06:37] <jay_>  Depends: python (>=2.4.2), python2.4 (>=2.4.3), python2.4-gtk2 (>=2.8.6), libgtk2.0-0 (>=2.8.20)
[06:37] <Jucato> bumzo: please use pastebin to show the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:37] <jay_> that's the depends line for emesene
[06:38] <Gerald> bumzo... that name sounds like a circus linux distro
[06:38] <bumzo> how will that help?
[06:38] <yuriy> jay_:where are you getting that package?
[06:38] <Gerald> use bumzo gnu/linux
[06:38] <jay_> http://emesene-msn.blogspot.com/ think that's the original site
[06:38] <Jucato> bumzo: so that we can see why your system can't find firefox
[06:38] <bumzo> after all .. i have downloaded a tar.gz firefox someone help me install it
[06:39] <raylu>  what repository is needed for firefox anyway?
[06:39] <Jucato> bumzo: it will be more problematic and complicated to do it that way
[06:39] <Jucato> raylu: just main
[06:39] <Gerald> tar xvfz "name_of_file"
[06:39] <bumzo> ok .. let me poste my source.list
[06:39] <Gerald> cd into extracted dir
[06:40] <Gerald> run installer
[06:40] <Jucato> surgy: that's a bit inaccurate
[06:40] <Gerald> bumzo... so ff didnt come with your install?
[06:41] <Jucato> Gerald: Firefox is not installed by default on Kubuntu
[06:41] <Gerald> but why canot he just sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:41] <bumzo> gerald no
[06:41] <Jucato> Gerald: that's what we're trying to find out, if you haven't noticed
[06:41] <surgy> jucato: i saw that fixing now
[06:41] <Gerald> lol
[06:41] <jay_> search on ubuntuforums.org for python2.4 comes up empty
[06:41] <bumzo> ok guys ... posted my source list ...cn some one check it out for me please
[06:42] <Jucato> bumzo: can you give the URL?
[06:42] <raylu>  bumzo: we're going to need the url...
[06:42] <Jucato> (the link)
[06:42] <surgy> jucato: check now?
[06:42] <Gerald> bumzo did you enable all of your sources?
[06:43] <Jucato> surgy: reloading
[06:43] <bumzo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6815/
[06:43] <Jucato> ouch
[06:43] <Jucato> no wonder
[06:43] <Gerald> bumzo, perhaps you should do this... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   then you'll have firefox
[06:43] <Jucato> how you have everything disabled
[06:43] <bumzo> eneble al lmy sources? how do i do that?
[06:43] <Jucato> Gerald: won't work
[06:43] <Gerald> no?
[06:44] <bumzo> ahh ... brilliant. let me try
[06:44] <Adydas> deleate the #s
[06:44] <Adydas> from the front of the text with a website on it
[06:44] <surgy> bumzo you have every repo turned off
[06:44] <Jucato> Gerald: look at his sources.list
[06:44] <bumzo> wait ... ubuntu or kubuntu???
[06:44] <Jucato> bumzo: remove the # for the lines that have "deb" at the beginning
[06:44] <surgy> bumzo only remove the # in front of the deb
[06:44] <Jucato> bumzo: doesn't matter. Ubuntu and Kubuntu share the same repositories
[06:44] <bumzo> huh?
[06:45] <raylu>  bumzo, you don't need to install ubuntu-desktop, do what Jucato said
[06:45] <Gerald> bumzo, why don't you just use ubuntu?
[06:45] <Jucato> bumzo: ok. do this. run this command: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <Jucato> Gerald: let's help him with what he needs for the moment, shall we?
[06:45] <Gerald> it might be simpler. dude
[06:45] <bumzo> ok .. .am at the source list
[06:45] <Jucato> Gerald: if it's his decision to use Firefox on Kubuntu, let's respect that, shall we?
[06:46] <Gerald> whatever
[06:46] <Jucato> bumzo: delete the # at the beginning of the lines with "deb"
[06:46] <bumzo> #deb-src http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[06:46] <bumzo> i remove the # ??
[06:46] <raylu>  Yes
[06:46] <Gerald> yes
[06:46] <Adydas> yes
[06:46] <Adydas> yes
[06:46] <raylu>  Hqhq
[06:46] <Jucato> bumzo: yes. but not from the deb-src
[06:46] <raylu>  *Haha
[06:46] <surgy> stop flooding
[06:47] <bumzo> ok .. done
[06:47] <Adydas> save it
[06:47] <bumzo> then?...i save?
[06:47] <Adydas> and then
[06:47] <Jucato> bumzo: save
[06:47] <Adydas> sudo apt-get update
[06:47] <bumzo> the document could not be saved
[06:47] <Adydas> why?
[06:47] <yuriy> jay_: so it doesn't let you install it if you try right?
[06:48] <Jucato> bumzo: did you run "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" like I asaid?
[06:48] <Gerald> did you use kdesu?
[06:48] <bumzo> as it was no t possible to write to file ///etc/apt/source.list
[06:48] <Adydas> id guess not
[06:48] <Gerald> lol
[06:48] <surgy> he left out kdesu
[06:48] <Gerald> someone remote into bumzo's box already
[06:48] <surgy> or his permissions are messed up do to an oem install
[06:49] <Jucato> surgy: um... still a bit.. um...
[06:49] <surgy> jucato: how so?
[06:49] <Adydas> how do remote in anyway (like enable it)
[06:49] <bumzo> WAIT
[06:49] <Jucato> surgy: might be better to instruct them to use kdesu kate instead of gksudo gedit in the wiki
[06:49] <bumzo> jucato .. .i ran kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list now its saved
[06:49] <underdog5004> Gerald, that's a little extreme.
[06:49] <Gerald> there's a how-to for remoting in on the KDE FAQs
[06:49] <Adydas> bumzo:
[06:49] <Adydas> sudo apt-get update
[06:49] <Gerald> under...joking
[06:50] <surgy> jucato: your right
[06:50] <Jucato> surgy: just a suggestion
[06:50] <bumzo> it worked .. and its saved
[06:50] <bumzo> now waht?
[06:50] <Adydas> bumzo:
[06:50] <Adydas> sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <Jucato> bumzo: sudo apt-get update
[06:50] <Gerald> wwwwwhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!
[06:50] <Jucato> bumzo: then: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:50] <Gerald> let us pray...
[06:51] <bumzo> its connecting to au.archive.ubuntu.com ..
[06:51] <Adydas> awum its updateing for you bumzo
[06:51] <bumzo> reading package list ... done
[06:51] <Jucato> surgy: suggestion: make a note and the corresponding Kubuntu command for the places where gksudo gedit is mentioned. much easier that way than making an umbrella statement at the top
[06:52] <bumzo> think its done ... what next?
[06:52] <raylu>  kmenu  internet . firefox
[06:52] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:52] <Jucato> bumzo: ^^^
[06:52] <raylu>  Adydas, I think he just ran that
[06:52] <Adydas> i think he ran the update..
[06:52] <surgy> jucato: i like leaving the implementation of the command semi concealed, so they have to try instead of copy/paste
[06:52] <Jucato> raylu: he ran the update
[06:52] <raylu>  ohz.
[06:52] <Adydas> bumzo:
[06:53] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:53] <bumzo> its wroking i think
[06:53] <Jucato> surgy: and I thought you wanted to make it newbie friendly?
[06:53] <bumzo> did alot of commands then asked me do you want to continue y/n
[06:53] <bumzo> said y
[06:53] <raylu>  Jucato, newbie friendly or friendly to newbies? :P
[06:53] <Jucato> surgy: also, giving the exact command will be less prone to error. rememer you are doing something as root... we try ti minimize errors as much as possible
[06:53] <bumzo> (thats after i did sudo apt-get install firefox)
[06:53] <surgy> jucato: more newbie friendly*      not completely stupid :)
[06:54] <Jucato> surgy: let's not presume the level of experience of those reading the wiki
[06:54] <Gerald> lol
[06:54] <Jucato> specially with a setup such as Kubuntu/Ubuntu
[06:54] <Gerald> bumzo is really RMS pretending
[06:54] <surgy> jucato: lol no ofense.... but im starting to see why more dont edit this thing
[06:55] <Gerald> i remember the first time i built gentoo from stage 1... talk about fear
[06:55] <Gerald> and time...
[06:55] <bumzo> RMS pretending?
[06:56] <Jucato> surgy: think of it this way, you and I might understand that, but that wiki isn't made for people with our experience.
[06:56] <Jucato> we can't presume that everyone who will be reading that, Kubuntu users in particular, would actually know what to do
[06:56] <bumzo> ok can i ask a Qusetion?
[06:56] <Gerald> RMS is a free/libre software luninary. bumzo
[06:56] <Jucato> bumzo: finised installing?
[06:56] <bumzo> not yet ... 35%
[06:56] <Gerald> he wrote a lot of the software that made linux as a distro(s) possible
[06:56] <bumzo> so who put the # ...coz i have never altered the source list
[06:56] <Gerald> comes that way
[06:56] <Jucato> bumzo: ah Dapper...
[06:57] <surgy> jucato: best if i revert it to how i found it then...... i understand your point, i was simply trying to add a few hints, not rewrite the thing
[06:57] <Jucato> bumzo: in the Dapper installer, if you installed without an internet connection, it disables the sources.list entries
[06:57] <goban>  i keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors help?
[06:57] <Jucato> surgy: no need to rewrite the thing
[06:57] <bumzo> ahh ... thats makes sense
[06:57] <Jucato> let me show you. don't revert anything yet, ok?
[06:57] <Jucato> surgy: ^^^
[06:57] <bumzo> so how can i update everything ... now that am on the net???
[06:57] <bumzo> coz i cant play videos etc
[06:58] <Gerald> bumzo... after tonight, i highly recommend you read the kubuntu forums... lots of good info there. you'll save yourself lots of time typing in here
[06:58] <genii> Any word on next LTS release? 8.04(or so, when Dapper LTS is done?)
[06:58] <bumzo> gerlad ... fo sho i will
[06:58] <Jucato> genii: no word yet
[06:58] <bumzo> how can i install limewirelinux.rpm?
[06:58] <surgy> jucato: ok let me undo my revertion
[06:58] <Jucato> surgy: don't!!!
[06:58] <bumzo> just downloaded it too .. and its sitting here
[06:58] <Jucato> I'm going to work on what you added
[06:59] <surgy> jucato: i was just fixing to click save.... i canceled
[06:59] <surgy> jucato: its how you aw it last time
[06:59] <surgy> although it still need kdesu and gksudo added
[06:59] <Gerald> bumzo, an RPM is not compatible with apt unless you download some stuff that would take you all night
[06:59] <surgy> to my parts at least
[06:59] <goban>  i keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors help?
[06:59] <bumzo> i'll pass
[07:00] <Gerald> find a tar.gz install instead
[07:00] <raylu>  bumzo, look for an alternate linux version of limewire
[07:00] <bumzo> so what P2P can i use on kubuntu?
[07:00] <Jucato> !frostwire
[07:00] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:00] <goban> !ktorrent
[07:00] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[07:00] <surgy> jucato: i really dont mind helping with the documentation
[07:00] <raylu>  also, bumzo, the first time you try and play videos, it should walk you through getting the codecs
[07:00] <raylu>  !linuxdcpp
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxdcpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <raylu>  :(
[07:01] <Gerald> bumzo is really the RIAA...
[07:01] <Jucato> surgy: I know you don't. but when working with docs, we have to really consider a wide range of users with varying usage experiences
[07:01] <Gerald> lol
[07:01] <raylu>  that works ^ but the binary is hard to find and the only other version is cvs
[07:01] <Jucato> surgy: and your efforts and intentions are greatly appreciated :)
[07:01] <surgy> jucato: if they werent i whouldnt try :)
[07:01] <bumzo> raylu... i downloaded limewireother.zip .... have no idea what to do with it to
[07:01] <bumzo> RIAA????
[07:01] <raylu>  bumzo, what is it supposed to be? you can right-click on it and open it with ark if you want
[07:02] <surgy> bumzo: use your repos to get frostwire
[07:02] <raylu>  bumzo, ignore that statement about the riaa =\
[07:02] <Gerald> lol
[07:02] <raylu>  you really are confusing him =\
[07:02] <surgy> bumzo: type sudo apt-get install frostwire   into a console
[07:02] <Gerald> lol
[07:03] <bumzo> it wil fetch it?....let me try
[07:03] <raylu>  it'll fetch it, and more ;)
[07:03] <bumzo> wait ... the firefox is stil linstalling .... should i open another consol?
[07:03] <Gerald> someone tell the poor guy about proxy servers before he starts dl'ing all of britnet spears albums
[07:03] <surgy> bumzo, not to add to confusion but frostwire requires the latest jre
[07:03] <goban> when i try to open any KDE apps i get something like this: http://pastebin.com/885665 please help
[07:03] <surgy> bumzo no
[07:04] <surgy> gerald: why dont you?
[07:04] <bumzo> ok ... lemmi chill
[07:04] <Gerald> i will after he finshes
[07:04] <bumzo> DONE
[07:04] <bumzo> firefox has finished
[07:04] <bumzo> now where do i get it??
[07:04] <raylu>  KMenu > Internet >
[07:04] <Adydas> type firefox and hit enter
[07:04] <Adydas> or use the menus
[07:04] <surgy> bumzo type sudo apt-get install frostwire
[07:05] <Gerald> jre should be a dependency of frostwire, right?
[07:05] <surgy> goban: the first input device errors are normal
[07:05] <Gerald> so it should get it, true?
[07:05] <raylu>  let apt-get deal with the dependency, yes
[07:05] <goban> surgy: ah ok, how should i go about fixing?
[07:05] <surgy> but apt-get wont automaticly get jre
[07:05] <raylu>  o.0?
[07:05] <bumzo> EUREKA ... i have firefox
[07:05] <surgy> goban are you familiar withopening and editing xorg?
[07:06] <Gerald> lol@bumzo
[07:06] <goban> surgy: somewhat
[07:06] <raylu>  bum
[07:06] <raylu>  zo =\ you win!
[07:06] <Gerald> lol
[07:06] <bumzo> wait .. will i have to be opening console and typing firefox everytime i want to launch it??
[07:06] <Gerald> no
[07:06] <raylu>  bumzo: KMenu > Internet >
[07:06] <surgy> goban ok open your xorg and find all the sections that have "device = wacom"
[07:06] <bumzo> cant see it :(
[07:06] <raylu>  though I find alt+F2> firefox easier
[07:06] <raylu>  bumzo, Firefox isn't listed under Internet of KMenu?
[07:06] <surgy> goban and then coment those sections out using # at the beginning of every line in that section
[07:06] <Gerald> bumzo, you actually have to write an 800 line shell script before you can use FF
[07:07] <raylu>  ...
[07:07] <raylu>  ignore that too =\
[07:07] <goban> surgy: that wont hurt beryl/gnome will it?
[07:07] <surgy> goban: a wacom is an input device for a tablet pc
[07:07] <surgy> goban if your not using a tablet you dont need a wacom
[07:07] <goban> gotcha thanks, ill do that brb
[07:07] <Gerald> poor bumzo.... his fingers and brain arenumb after all this
[07:08] <Adydas> Hey guys, ive put this together to attempt to help people set repos and update and install using apt-get after seeing / having hundreds of requests for help today, any comments. http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt
[07:08] <raylu>  this could have taken a little less time if you hadn't said all those random things, you know
[07:08] <Gerald> doubtful
[07:08] <Gerald> lol
[07:08] <goban> device = wacom string not found
[07:08] <surgy> gerald: you are counter productive a lot
[07:09] <Gerald> i installed gentoo as a newb and it took me 2 days....lol
[07:09] <surgy> goban: what?
[07:09] <Gerald> what a waste of time
[07:09] <Jucato> surgy: check the page now to see what I mean
[07:09] <surgy> goban type this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:09] <surgy> jucato hold please
[07:09] <surgy> !nvidia
[07:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <Gerald> bumzo, do you have a linux users group in your area?
[07:10] <Jucato> surgy: also corrected some grammar/spelling stuff along the way...
[07:10] <bumzo> no ... gerlald i dont
[07:10] <Gerald> where do you live?
[07:10] <bumzo> but i have u guys (Group hug)
[07:10] <Gerald> lol...true
[07:10] <bumzo> amd in EAST AFRICA kenya
[07:10] <goban> surgy: oh so i comment out all sections with driver "wacom"?
[07:10] <surgy> jucato: yeah im not known to be a good speller :)
[07:10] <raylu>  Haha.  E: couldn't find package frostwire
[07:11] <raylu>  !frostwire
[07:11] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:11] <raylu>  o.0
[07:11] <Jucato> frostwire isn't in the repos, raylu
[07:11] <goban> jeez there were 3 of em
[07:12] <bumzo> ERROR no database available
[07:12] <surgy> jucato: you should look at adydas's howto, is there one like it on the wiki? if not adydas you should add it
[07:12] <Gerald> actually, disregard the riaa thing, raylu. he lives in kenya. he's immune
[07:12] <bumzo> EUREKA ... IT DID !!!!
[07:12] <Jucato> surgy: there is, but it's more GUI oriented
[07:12] <Gerald> lol
[07:12] <bumzo> man u guys are good
[07:12] <Jucato> !repositories | surgy
[07:12] <ubotu> surgy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:13] <Jucato> surgy: there are instructions for both Synaptic and Adept
[07:13] <Gerald> bumzo... you can tell all your friends you're now a linux hacker
[07:13] <bumzo> listen if u are ever in africa ... give me a shout wil lshow u guys around. maasai mara wildlife etc
[07:13] <Jucato> just tell them what a hacker really is
[07:13] <Adydas> surgy: Thanks, im going to.. Im currently writing a few more.. Nvidia drivers,
[07:13] <bumzo> the think am a king now of some sort
[07:14] <Gerald> bumzo... any cute girls in your neighborhood?
[07:14] <surgy> adydas: to be honest nvidia is great you should work on the ATI one
[07:14] <raylu>  Gerald get's right to the point :P
[07:14] <bumzo> LOTS ...with big shapely bootie
[07:14] <Gerald> lol
[07:14] <bumzo> black love reigns
[07:14] <Jucato> er..
[07:14] <raylu>  all of a sudden, instead of going off on a tangent at every step
[07:14] <surgy> goban: you got those commented out?
[07:14] <Jucato> getting offtopic here... and a bit... um...
[07:14] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[07:14] <Gerald> i'm looking for a cute girl late 20s
[07:14] <Gerald> lol
[07:14] <Gerald> nevermind
[07:14] <bumzo> chicks here have what i call ''onion asses''
[07:14] <ForgeAus> Jucato should the root drive be mounted in fstab?
[07:14] <Gerald> lol
[07:14] <bumzo> ...makes a grown man cry!!!
[07:14] <surgy> !topic
[07:14] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[07:15] <lestat> I need to import a contact list into kopete for MSN.
[07:15] <Gerald> lol@bumzo
[07:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: you mean the / partition? yes
[07:15] <ForgeAus> and/or does the order matter?
[07:15] <lestat> I can't find anything to tell me how to di this though.
[07:15] <raylu>  lestat, logging in doesn't work?
[07:15] <lestat> What?
[07:15] <lestat> Logging in?
[07:15] <Jucato> ForgeAus: order doesn't matter
[07:15] <raylu>  lestat, use Kopete to login to MSN...it should have all your contacts downloaded from the server
[07:15] <Jucato> lestat: when you login to your MSN account in Kopete, your contacts are already there
[07:15] <lestat> I have an account and I wish to move my old contacts to this new account.
[07:15] <lestat> *a new account
[07:15] <ForgeAus> um jucato my kubuntu partition is on /dev/sdb2 which is also in my fstab...
[07:15] <Jucato> aah
[07:16] <dawn> you know after using ubuntu now for months, its kinda boring ins some respects; typically as windows has issues it livens up my day somwhat
[07:16] <Jucato> ForgeAus: ok... what's the problem?
[07:16] <Gerald> compiles a new girlfriend....
[07:16] <Gerald> lol
[07:16] <surgy> goban: you have to restart xwindows after you comment those and save you xorg...... but i whould recomend restarting the comp, it seams smoother that way
[07:16] <ForgeAus> fsck comes up saying /dev/sdb2 is already mounted
[07:16] <ForgeAus> and quits with an operational error (8)
[07:16] <dawn>  "sudo apt-get upgrade boyfriend"
[07:16] <Jucato> dawn: have you explored every nook and cranny? every package possible? every new technology? every new method? customized to death?
[07:16] <bumzo> ok .. one more ... frostwire
[07:16] <bumzo> how do i intal it ... pleeese
[07:17] <Gerald> fsck... when is linux going to go to soft updates like the BSDs?
[07:17] <dawn> jucato, *h3ll* no
[07:17] <ForgeAus> and starts a recovery shell instead of booting to gui
[07:17] <Gerald> lol@dawn
[07:17] <bumzo> raylu ... what should i do
[07:17] <Jucato> dawn: then you still have lots of things to do to keep you occupied, without the viruses :)
[07:17] <bumzo> gerlald?
[07:17] <dawn> aye
[07:17] <raylu>  !frostwire | bumzo
[07:17] <ubotu> bumzo: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[07:17] <ForgeAus> Gerald what do you mean soft updates?
[07:17] <Jucato> bumzo: did you read the page linked ^^^^
[07:17] <raylu>  i've never installed frostwire before
[07:17] <lestat> Jucato: Any idea?
[07:17] <dawn> i was on some pron sites last night trying to break my machine
[07:17] <dawn> with spyware
[07:17] <dawn> lol
[07:17] <lestat> I don't have to use Kopete to import them...
[07:17] <dawn> NADA
[07:17] <Jucato> lestat: no, not really. I only have 1 msn...
[07:18] <lestat> But Gaim doesn't do it either...
[07:18] <Gerald> forge... fask is antiquated in the BSDs now... they use soft updating...
[07:18] <ForgeAus> dawn I don't recommend doing that
[07:18] <Jucato> dawn: Linux lets you think of more creative ways to break your machine :)
[07:18] <bumzo> lemmi read it
[07:18] <surgy> dawn: and your complaining? thats your expensive machine wont break?
[07:18] <Gerald> dawn... shame on you...porn....does your mother know?
[07:18] <dawn> haha
[07:18] <dawn> *hush*
[07:18] <dawn> sure I can break my machine a multitude of ways
[07:19] <ForgeAus> I gotta go buy some stamps brb
[07:19] <dawn> Gerald: Mother is passed
[07:19] <Gerald> well, God knows....
[07:19] <bumzo> helooo
[07:19] <Gerald> hello, bumzo
[07:19] <surgy> dawn change your root pw to 1 and open all your firewall ports and broadcast it on every blog you can think of
[07:20] <Gerald> dawn... i'll just take your IP address... nessus and nmap can do the rest
[07:20] <Tm_T> I think that is slipping to offtopic ;)
[07:20] <Gerald> lol
[07:20] <surgy> sorry
[07:20] <Gerald> he was joking... all in good fun
[07:20] <Tm_T> I know.
[07:21] <Gerald> bumzo, let's talk about linux in kenya...alot of users?
[07:21] <Tm_T> But I think in the middle of your conversation there was some real questions ;)
[07:21] <surgy> gerald i wasnt
[07:21] <Gerald> lol
[07:21] <raylu>  maybe Tm_T is from the RIAA :P
[07:22] <Gerald> lol
[07:22] <Gerald> bumzo is really ESR
[07:22] <surgy> well if no one can learn from my limited knowledge on this subject then i should leave
[07:22] <Gerald> lol
[07:22] <bumzo> linux in kenya is picking up
[07:22] <Gerald> that's great, bumzo
[07:23] <Gerald> are you in university?
[07:23] <dawn_> well darn I got dcc'd
[07:23] <Gerald> dawn... penance for surfing pr0n
[07:23] <bumzo> i love this os
[07:23] <Tm_T> !dcc
[07:23] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit
[07:23] <bumzo> where u from gerald?
[07:23] <bumzo> no ... i run my own cyber ... want to do my masters though in july @ australia
[07:24] <Gerald> bumzo, just remember, linux is not an OS, it's a kernel only
[07:24] <raylu>  oh geez, gerald =\
[07:24] <bumzo> ?
[07:24] <Gerald> lol
[07:24] <raylu>  it's good enough to call it an os
[07:24] <Gerald> sorry, RMS coming out in me
[07:24] <raylu>  !linux
[07:24] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[07:25] <Gerald> bumzo, you need to really read up on a man named Ricahrd Stallman. Take what he says are the absolute truth.
[07:25] <Gerald> http://stallman.org/
[07:26] <crazy_bus> I download a kpresenter file.  Is openoffice capable of opening it?
[07:27] <Jucato> crazy_bus: if it's an .odp, then yes.
[07:27] <raylu>  crazy_bus, you could just try...
[07:27] <bumzo> who is richard Stallman??
[07:27] <bumzo> is he the ''bill gates'' of kubuntu? lol
[07:27] <Jucato> but try. oo.o might be able to open it
[07:27] <crazy_bus> its a .kpr file
[07:27] <Jucato> bumzo: no. please do a Google search if you're interested. thanks :)
[07:28] <Gerald> bumzo, richard stallman founded the free software foundation.
[07:28] <Gerald> go read the link i posted
[07:28] <Adydas> so its defantly not bill gates then :p
[07:28] <Gerald> he's a brilliant guy
[07:28] <surgy> jucato: whats the chances of a "Script kiddie" or other retard scanning my network block and finding a voulnerability in my kubuntu's stock security features?
[07:28] <Tm_T> surgy: Not that big.
[07:29] <Gerald> surgy, not likely if you have a firewall running nat
[07:29] <Gerald> as you should have
[07:29] <surgy> bumzo: the "billgates of kubuntu" is Linus Torvalds
[07:29] <Jucato> surgy: almost zero, even if you don't have a firewall
[07:29] <Tm_T> surgy: By default, there should be no holes because there's no walls either. :)
[07:29] <Jucato> surgy: that is not correct
[07:29] <surgy> jucato: i have a hardware firewall
[07:29] <Gerald> linksys router?
[07:29] <Jucato> surgy: the the chances are even smaller
[07:29] <crazy_bus> its just comes up with a filter selection.  And I couldn't see kpresenter in it
[07:29] <surgy> 2wire router/adsl modem
[07:29] <Gerald> running nat?
[07:30] <surgy> jucato: should i be worried? or instance if my ip was obtained in an irc room?
[07:30] <bumzo> gerald where u @?
[07:30] <Gerald> surgy...no
[07:30] <Jucato> surgy: no
[07:30] <Gerald> i'm in Texas, bumzo
[07:31] <Kite_DH> what was the cmd to update my system?
[07:31] <Kite_DH> sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[07:31] <Kite_DH> or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[07:31] <Jucato> Kite_DH: sudo apt-get update
[07:31] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:31] <Kite_DH> thx
[07:31] <Jucato> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:31] <surgy> jucato: ok i find it easy to get cought up in the hype of people rotating ips 10 times and hour and switching ips with there buddies and stuff to make it harder
[07:31] <Jucato> those two almost always go together
[07:31] <Kite_DH> does that work for fedora core too?
[07:31] <Jucato> Kite_DH: no
[07:31] <Tm_T> Jucato: dist-upgrade should be used with high caution.
[07:31] <Adydas> yum is used for fedora
[07:32] <Gerald> no... it can, but they use yum
[07:32] <Jucato> Tm_T: dist-upgrade is the default action for Adept and Synaptic
[07:32] <Gerald> you can dl apt for fedora, tho
[07:32] <Kite_DH> kk, my friend was asking
[07:32] <Tm_T> Jucato: Still.
[07:32] <surgy> kite_DH: fedora uses yum
[07:32] <Tm_T> Jucato: Because it can remove stuff, for people who doesn't look what they do, it's dangerous.
[07:32] <Kite_DH> surgy: how can he update then?
[07:32] <Gerald> and apt
[07:32] <surgy> kite_DH: who?
[07:32] <Kite_DH> surgy: my friend just installed FD6.0
[07:32] <Gerald> kite.... yum check update
[07:33] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:33] <Jucato> Tm_T: only when you're using Adept. apt-get and Synaptic will ask for your confirmation first and notify you
[07:33] <surgy> kite_DH: tell him to go to #fedora
[07:33] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:33] <Tm_T> Jucato: So just add "but look what it asks" and they'll be fine. ;)
[07:33] <Jucato> :)
[07:33] <Jucato> play nice people
[07:33] <Tm_T> To work, have fun. ->
[07:33] <Gerald> i still prefer the tgz based updating like the BSDs
[07:34] <Gerald> even tho linux is nicer to live in
[07:34] <surgy> jucato: whats that mean "play nice people" was that pointed at me?
[07:34] <Gerald> surgy... you paranoid?
[07:34] <julio> surgy
[07:34] <surgy> gerald: i came from windows xp about 3 months ago..... do you really have to ask that?
[07:35] <surgy> julio?
[07:35] <Gerald> lol@windows
[07:35] <Gerald> i came from max os x and before that os 9 and 8
[07:35] <julio> how are you
[07:35] <surgy> julio: im fine and yourself?
[07:35] <Kite_DH> surgy: how can i move files in terminal?
[07:35] <Gerald> i've been using linux since 98 on and off, tho
[07:35] <julio> good
[07:35] <Gerald> kite... man the mv command
[07:36] <bumzo> gerlald .. they say everything is BIG in texas
[07:36] <Gerald> man mv
[07:36] <bumzo> lol
[07:36] <surgy> ktie_DH: cp [file directory]   [directory to copy to]
[07:36] <Kite_DH> how can i move my entire DVD via cmd?
[07:36] <Gerald> cp copies, mv moves and renames... use mv
[07:36] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:36] <surgy> kite_dh: example: cp /media/movie  /media/kitemovie
[07:36] <Gerald> bumzo, things are big in texas
[07:36] <julio> i have  aquestion frien
[07:36] <Kite_DH> alright
[07:36] <Kite_DH> thank you
[07:37] <surgy> !ask | julio
[07:37] <ubotu> julio: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:37] <julio> ok
[07:37] <Gerald> the only thing in texas that isn't big is my paycheck
[07:37] <Gerald> not enough linux in texas if you ask me
[07:37] <surgy> !offtopic | gerald
[07:37] <ubotu> gerald: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:38] <bumzo> lol @ gerald
[07:38] <premier_> My external hard drive has been turning off for no reason while in use, especially as its just starting up
[07:38] <bumzo> ok .. one more thing please
[07:38] <bumzo> how do i install java
[07:38] <premier_> Im worried that its going to be destroyed
[07:38] <bumzo> can i get it from the repository?
[07:38] <surgy> premier_: sounds like power failure look into your power settings
[07:38] <premier_> bumzo: I think you have to go to the sun website
[07:38] <Gerald> that i don't know, bumxo... i don't use any non-free software... ask one of these esteemed people in here
[07:38] <surgy> premier_: if its not allready destroyed*
[07:39] <julio> ihave a tv card that ibeen using with windows but idont no how usit on linux anybody can helpme
[07:39] <surgy> bumzo: let me get the package name
[07:39] <premier_> surgy: its still accessable, but theres nowhere I could backup all that data.  It has its own powersource (it plugs into the wall)
[07:39] <Gerald> wow... tv card under linux... i think democracy tv has some stuff on getting them to work under linux
[07:39] <surgy> bumzo: type sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:40] <Gerald> lol
[07:40] <Gerald> bumzo is on a roll
[07:40] <surgy> premier_: i dont know then sorry
[07:40] <surgy> !tvtuner
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <Adydas> Top 3 things you feel you help people with here people. what are they? apt-get anything else?
[07:40] <Gretl> julio what programm have you tried?
[07:40] <surgy> !tuner
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <goban> i keep getting cannot talk to klauncher errors please help, heres error: http://pastebin.com/885665
[07:41] <julio> anyone
[07:41] <goban> and whoever told me to edit out all wacom lines in xorg.conf made x not start, and i had to revert it with the live CD :(
[07:41] <surgy> adydas: write a how to on apple ipod and amarok the current ones suck
[07:41] <Adydas> use the backup
[07:41] <Adydas> Wicked, i have an ipod and amarok
[07:41] <Gretl> i use tvtime or kdetv works fine
[07:41] <bumzo> soon .. i'll be having a one on one with ubotu ;)
[07:41] <goban> didnt know how to change the name of the backup in bash
[07:42] <surgy> goban: then you edited something you shouldnt have
[07:42] <Adydas> goban:
[07:42] <Adydas> may i help
[07:42] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/linux-commands.txt
[07:42] <goban> Adydas: sure :) ill paste my xorg.conf
[07:42] <surgy> go for it adydas
[07:42] <Adydas> its a work in progress but use that to rename the backup file to the correct file
[07:42] <goban> surgy: maybe i did sorry
[07:42] <surgy> goban: not a problem
[07:42] <Adydas> Its a work in progress so dont be to hard
[07:43] <surgy> goban post and then ill edit it and post back so all you have to do is copy/paste it over your old xorg
[07:43] <julio> thanks friends
[07:43] <bumzo> couldn't find package sun-java6-jre
[07:44] <surgy> bumzo: you have a repo blocked still
[07:44] <Jucato> bumzo: you need to enable the dapper-backports repository in sources.list
[07:44] <bumzo> so how do i ''unblock''
[07:44] <surgy> follow adydas's repo guide :)
[07:44] <Gerald> goban, when you edit a config file. always make a backup before doing so.... cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig
[07:44] <Adydas> http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt
[07:45] <Gerald> that way you're safe
[07:45] <Kite_DH> surgy: ..hey it doesnt work coz in the name is a <space>       -----> media:/hda/Mini Moni Chiccha~ 001- 015 (2000-10-15 to 2001-04-29)
[07:45] <goban> http://pastebin.com/885675
[07:45] <bumzo> jucato ... how do i do taht?
[07:45] <Jucato> bumzo: same way we did earlier
[07:45] <surgy> kite_DH: you have to remove the spaces and never name anything with a space again :)
[07:45] <goban> Gerald: i did, but i didnt know how to change the backup to the real via command line
[07:45] <Adydas> i may need to add more info but still
[07:45] <goban> surgy: much thanks BTW
[07:46] <goban> i thought i did what you said but i must have messed it up
[07:46] <surgy> goban its easy to restore backup
[07:46] <bumzo> what was the command line again? kdu....something something
[07:46] <Adydas> bumzo: http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt
[07:46] <Gerald> cp it back cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:46] <Admiral_Chicago> hey Jucato do you know anything about python errors in dapper
[07:46] <Adydas> its about 6 lines down
[07:46] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sorry, no
[07:46] <Kite_DH> surgy: hmm....
[07:46] <surgy> goban ill edit it and put it back on pastebin for you :)
[07:46] <bumzo> jucato?
[07:47] <bumzo> the command to get to the sourvce list
[07:47] <Gerald> surgy wants his shadow file as well...
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> damn, i have this machine that is being odd
[07:47] <Gerald> lol
[07:47] <Jucato> bumzo:  kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:47] <Gerald> bumzo has become the consummate hacker in here
[07:47] <surgy> gerald..... i dont hack
[07:47] <goban> i cded to /etc/X11/ and rm xorg.conf, but i diddnt know how to change xorg.conf.backup to xorg.conf
[07:48] <Gerald> surgy... crackers crack, hackers write code and tinker
[07:48] <goban> ah Gerald just adi above NM
[07:48] <surgy> gerald: and i dont do anything
[07:48] <bumzo> before u know it .. i will develpo kubumzo kernel lol
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> crackers attempt to crack code. hackers try to improve it.
[07:48] <bumzo> jucato ...am there ... so how do i do it?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> offtopic though
[07:48] <Jucato> bumzo: look for the line with "dapper-backports"
[07:49] <Gerald> goban, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <jbruckman> !"orphaned control module"
[07:49] <goban> Gerald: yes thanks :)
[07:49] <Gerald> you
[07:49] <Jucato> bumzo: then remove the # at the beginning of that line with "deb"
[07:49] <Gerald> are welcome
[07:49] <Adydas> bumzo: i highly reccomend you check out http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt
[07:49] <bumzo> done and saved
[07:50] <Gerald> goban, make another copy before you edit it again...
[07:50] <Gerald> call it orig, not backup
[07:50] <Jucato> bumzo: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:50] <jbruckman> does anyone know about the module loading error in the system settings, where it gives the diagnosis as either an orphaned module, or old third party modules?
[07:50] <Gerald> that way you know it's the actual original from the install
[07:51] <bumzo> updating jucato
[07:51] <surgy> jucato will you look at goban's xorg for me? i cant see what he messed up that whould keep it from starting
[07:51] <bumzo> are u on msn or yahoo jucato?
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: sudo dpkg-reconfingure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> that may help.
[07:51] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: thanks.
[07:52] <goban> surgy: thats not the changed one, thats the origional.  the changed one i just commented out all lines in sections that had wacom as driver
[07:52] <Kite_DH> whhyyy...
[07:52] <Kite_DH> why does it stop copying at 91%?? :(
[07:52] <Kite_DH> all the time
[07:52] <Kite_DH> on every file over 500MB
[07:52] <Kite_DH> from DVD to HD
[07:52] <surgy> goban oh ok let me change it for you
[07:53] <bumzo> ITS WORKED JUCATO .... installing
[07:53] <jbruckman> gave me an error.
[07:53] <bumzo> gerald .. .see the way am on a roll
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: it's a python error
[07:53] <Gerald><EMAIL_ADDRESS>you're the consummate hacker now
[07:53] <jbruckman> jbruckman@pyschosis:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfingure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:53] <jbruckman> Password:
[07:53] <bumzo> gerald ,... u thee?
[07:53] <jbruckman> sudo: dpkg-reconfingure: command not found
[07:53] <jbruckman> jbruckman@pyschosis:~$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[07:53] <jbruckman> xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[07:53] <jbruckman>    customized
[07:53] <jbruckman> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[07:53] <jbruckman>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070221005325
[07:53] <Gerald> here, bumzo
[07:53] <Adydas> AG
[07:53] <bumzo> now ... how do i install a .deb file?
[07:53] <Jucato> !pastebin | jbruckman
[07:53] <ubotu> jbruckman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285266&page=2&highlight=orphaned+module
[07:53] <Gerald> almost time to hit the hay
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: follow the link Jucato gave :)
[07:54] <Gerald> gotta work in the am
[07:54] <Jucato> bumzo: is that .deb package not in the repositories?
[07:54] <jbruckman> Jucato: apologies.
[07:54] <bumzo> no ... its the frostwire i just downloaded
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> bumzo: sudo dpkg -i *.deb....but it's most likely in the repos (the suggested way)
[07:54] <Jucato> ah
[07:54] <Gerald> bumzo's gonna get him so free music
[07:54] <bumzo> gerlad ... tahnks alot for everything guy
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> frostwire is in the repos
[07:54] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: um.. it isn't
[07:55] <bumzo> yeah ...
[07:55] <Gerald> np, bumzo... i didn't do much...lol
[07:55] <Kite_DH> ...:(
[07:55] <surgy> goban: almost done buddy
[07:55] <Gerald> enjoy your free music
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: oh right, i recall know
[07:55] <Gerald> lol
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: sudo aptitude reinstall kde-guidance
[07:55] <bumzo> admiral .. u sure?
[07:55] <Gerald> and don't worry about the riaa in africa
[07:55] <bumzo> yeah its not ... but i have downloaded it
[07:55] <Gerald> you're untouchable
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> bumzo: no it's not in the repos
[07:55] <bumzo> so how do i install it?
[07:56] <bumzo> its on my sesktop
[07:56] <Jucato> bumzo: in Konqueror, you can right-click on the .deb -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package. I believe the frostwire wiki page has instructions for all of these
[07:56] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me?
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> 00:54 < Admiral_Chicago> bumzo: sudo dpkg -i *.de
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask
[07:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:56] <Gerald> kite...what do you need?
[07:56] <Kite_DH> i already asked
[07:56] <Kite_DH> =)
[07:56] <Gerald> ask again
[07:56] <Kite_DH> ok
[07:56] <surgy> bumzo: once again is there not a repo package for frostwire?
[07:56] <Gerald> i missed it
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> not when I was around
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> surgy: no it's not.
[07:57] <bumzo> admiral ... that will pick the deb file from the desktop or it needs to be in the root folder
[07:57] <bumzo> confirmed surgy... there is none
[07:57] <Kite_DH> the problem is that everytime i want to copy files from a DVD to my HD that are 500MB+ it runs to about 80-90% and stalls...then it doesnt continue...
[07:57] <goban> surgy: thanks :) ive just been using linux for a week so im not really familiar with xorg.conf yet
[07:57] <Gerald> bumzo... tell all your friends you're now a kernel hacker working for Linus Torvalds
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> bumzo: right click it, install package. if you type that in a konsole do: cd Desktop && sudo dpkg -i *.deb && rm *.deb
[07:58] <Gerald> kite... is your HD full or is the partition full?
[07:58] <Kite_DH> 227GB space left
[07:58] <Kite_DH> =(
[07:58] <Gerald> lol
[07:58] <surgy> goban: ok here it is http://www.pastebin.ca/365807     see how i comented the three sections for wacom? and the three at top?
[07:58] <Gerald> i guess not
[07:59] <Gerald> where are you copying it to?
[07:59] <Kite_DH> cuz i want it on my HD not on a DVD
[07:59] <Gerald> do you have permissions to write to that dir?
[07:59] <goban> surgy: OHHHH i missed the 3 at top
[07:59] <goban> ty :)
[08:00] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: thanks. fixed.
[08:00] <Gerald> bumzo, what time is it in africa right now?
[08:00] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: kde guidance?
[08:00] <Kite_DH> yes i do
[08:01] <Kite_DH> and with terminal it doesnt work coz the name has space in it
[08:01] <Gerald> kite... so it copies and then quits at the same percentage every time
[08:01] <Kite_DH> and i cant rename files on a DVD
[08:01] <surgy> goban :)
[08:01] <Kite_DH> yes, always about 80-90%
[08:01] <surgy> kite_DH: whats your prob?
[08:01] <Gerald> kite... no worries, just hit tab for auto complete
[08:01] <Kite_DH> what do you mean
[08:01] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: yeah
[08:02] <Kite_DH> well lemme give u example
[08:02] <surgy> kite_DH: you need to rename the file
[08:02] <Gerald> surgy... not true
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> brilliant
[08:02] <Gerald> i've done it without renaming
[08:02] <Gerald> it
[08:02] <surgy> gerald: everything is easier without spaces
[08:02] <Jucato> Kite_DH: start typing the filename, then Press Tab to autocomplete the filename
[08:02] <Gerald> true
[08:02] <Kite_DH> Gerald: i want "media:/hda/Akira Soundtrack"  to "home/atchen/desktop"
[08:02] <Gerald> kite... is there DRM on that disk?
[08:03] <surgy> then cp those dirs using tab
[08:03] <Kite_DH> whats DRM
[08:03] <goban> surgy: ill let you know if it works :))
[08:03] <Gerald> copy prevention software onboard the DVD
[08:03] <bumzo> hey ... i right clicked the froswire.deb
[08:03] <Gerald> some really new DVDs cannot be copied.... period
[08:03] <bumzo> kubuntu package menu
[08:03] <bumzo> instal
[08:03] <Gerald> digital rights management, kite
[08:03] <bumzo> asked for a pasword
[08:03] <surgy> goban: best of luck
[08:03] <bumzo> that should work right?
[08:03] <Gerald> evil capitalist garbage
[08:04] <Kite_DH> Gerald: smaller files work, but 500BM+ not
[08:04] <julio> kworld tv card with pvr plus programm
[08:04] <jbruckman> yay. i love that i can log in as root now.
[08:04] <Kite_DH> Gerald: i copied like 200MB files
[08:04] <jbruckman> i was lost and frightened without my su command.
[08:04] <Gerald> but are they still copied over?
[08:04] <jbruckman> :-p
[08:04] <Gerald> are they on the HD?
[08:04] <Kite_DH> the small files yes
[08:04] <julio> howi can do to runn to
[08:04] <Gerald> lol
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> thats the proper English for it
[08:05] <Kite_DH> the big files stop at 80-90%
[08:05] <Gerald> admiral...evil capitalist garbage
[08:05] <Gerald> that's what it is
[08:05] <raylu>  Kite_DH, are you sure your HD is large enough to hold it?
[08:05] <Gerald> drm is capitalist garbage
[08:05] <julio> surgy help me amigo
[08:05] <jbruckman> lol
[08:05] <Kite_DH> raylu: i have like 230GB space left
[08:05] <raylu>  oh.
[08:05] <Gerald> lol
[08:06] <Gerald> more than enough
[08:06] <surgy> julio: whats the problem man?
[08:06] <Gerald> is the disk corrupt of scratched?
[08:06] <Kite_DH> no
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> drm being called "rights" is propaganda that companies use.
[08:06] <julio> the tv card
[08:06] <Kite_DH> its perfect
[08:06] <Kite_DH> lol
[08:06] <Kite_DH> just burned it
[08:06] <Gerald> admiral... i agree... evil capitalist companies
[08:06] <raylu>  hm...there is a way to create rar files with winrar that split the file up into sections; perhaps there is something similar for ark
[08:06] <julio> kworld tv card
[08:07] <surgy> julio: i cant help you man, i dont know anything about them, you will have to read, ill give you a link
[08:07] <surgy> !help | julio
[08:07] <ubotu> julio: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:07] <julio> gracias amigo
[08:07] <Gerald> denada, senhor
[08:07] <Gerald> lol
[08:08] <surgy> julius: no prob
[08:08] <surgy> gerald: you are really not helping
[08:08] <julio> no hay problema
[08:08] <Gerald> lol... it's late and i'm tired...
[08:08] <Gretl> i would just istall a tv programm first
[08:08] <Gretl> tvtime for example
[08:09] <surgy> julio: en englesh please
[08:09] <julio> no problem
[08:09] <surgy> gretI: the reason jolio asks me is becuase he doesnt know english very well
[08:10] <surgy> gretI: so its hard for him to understand is there a spanish kubuntu room?
[08:10] <julio> and idon know ingles mi amigo
[08:10] <surgy> !spanish
[08:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:10] <goban> surgy: cool less errors now :) jsut abotu 15 ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher
[08:10] <surgy> !spanish|julio
[08:10] <ubotu> julio: please see above
[08:10] <ForgeAus> so nobody knows how to use Xephyr and/or Xnest
[08:11] <julio> gracias amigos
[08:11] <surgy> goban: i cant help with those and gratzs
[08:11] <ForgeAus> sofar all I get is an unuxable blank X-Server...
[08:11] <Gerald> goodnight all...
[08:11] <ForgeAus> grr  unusable
[08:11] <Gerald> time to go to sleep
[08:11] <Gretl> kk but its easy to install - and has a channel search function then we will know more ;)
[08:11] <Gretl> !tvtime | julio
[08:11] <ubotu> julio: tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[08:11] <goban> surgy: k ty anyways!
[08:11] <surgy> goban: np
[08:11] <goban> when i startup ktorrent i get 15 ktorrent: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Cannot talk to klauncher errors, can anyoen help?
[08:12] <ForgeAus> dithered grey screen with a black x cursor...
[08:12] <surgy> ?
[08:12] <surgy> forgeaus: kde isnt launching properly?
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> jbruckman: same here bro. sleep
[08:12] <ForgeAus> surgy yeah that
[08:12] <jbruckman> Admiral_Chicago: night.
[08:12] <Jucato> sweet dreams Admiral_Chicago
[08:12] <ForgeAus> but this is inside Xephyr its not my main X-server its a nested one
[08:13] <raylu>  !seen raylu
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen raylu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <raylu>  T.T
[08:13] <Kite_DH> !kite's mother
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kite's mother - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <surgy> forgeaus: i cant help
[08:13] <Kite_DH> :D aight
[08:13] <Jucato> !botabuse
[08:13] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[08:13] <ForgeAus> surgy thanx anyway
[08:14] <ForgeAus> is there anything you can do from a "blank" X-Server?
[08:14] <ForgeAus> no clicking anywhere seems to work
[08:14] <surgy> forgeaus: i whould suggest a reinstall, you have you backups in hand right? :)
[08:14] <Jucato> ForgeAus: switch to Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start"
[08:15] <ForgeAus> Jucato does that work from within a nested server?
[08:15] <Jucato> oh? it's a nested X server?
[08:15] <Jucato> ah Xephyr
[08:15] <surgy> jucato: he's screwed?
[08:15] <Jucato> hm.. let me scroll up
[08:15] <ForgeAus> whoa!
[08:15] <ForgeAus> that wasn't such a good idea!
[08:15] <surgy> ?
[08:15] <ForgeAus> now I ca't see anything!
[08:15] <raylu>  by the way...is there a way to change kdesu's password?
[08:16] <surgy> whats up?
[08:16] <Jucato> ForgeAus: what are you trying to do again?
[08:16] <surgy> !password|raylu
[08:16] <ubotu> raylu: Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords
[08:16] <Jucato> raylu: kdesu uses sudo, which asks for the user's password
[08:16] <Jucato> (presuming the user is part of the "admin" group)
[08:16] <Jucato> (which the first user created as install is)
[08:16] <raylu>  so...sudo passwd?
[08:16] <Jucato> raylu: er no
[08:17] <raylu>  wait a sec, that makes no sense
[08:17] <surgy> there is a file somewhere i cant rememeber where
[08:17] <Jucato> kdesu in Kubuntu will always ask for the current user's password
[08:17] <raylu>  oh
[08:17] <raylu>  so there's no way to change it?
[08:17] <surgy> jucato: he wants the file with the passwords in it so he can change the root password
[08:17] <raylu>  no, I don't want to change root's password
[08:17] <Kite_DH> well...my stuff stays on DVD then
[08:17] <raylu>  just kdesu.
[08:18] <surgy> raylu: same file for every user
[08:18] <Jucato> surgy: kdesu uses sudo in Kubuntu. sudo never asks for the user's password
[08:18] <raylu>  but...sudo does...
[08:18] <surgy> jucato: ahhh
[08:19] <Jucato> you can only make kdesu use a different password if: 1) you enable the root user (not recommended) and 2) create a config file that will make kdesu use su instead of sudo
[08:19] <Jucato> raylu: what are you confused about?
[08:19] <raylu>  oh, I see.
[08:20] <raylu>  oh...that's why root was disabled to begin with
[08:20] <surgy> raylu: why do you want to do this?
[08:20] <raylu>  not for any particular reason.
[08:20] <surgy> kite_DH: try a cd ripping program
[08:20] <raylu>  one of the first things I tried was su and, when that didn't work, I enabled root :P
[08:20] <surgy> raylu: then i whould suggest to leave it alone
[08:21] <Jucato> raylu: Kubuntu disables root by default. so it's senseless to make kdesu use su which would ask for the root password, since there is no root password.
[08:21] <raylu>  Oh. I changed the root password already :P Don't worry, I'm going to leave kdesu the way it is
[08:22] <surgy> jucato: is there an outlook express for kubuntu?
[08:22] <raylu>  Thunderbird, Kontact
[08:22] <raylu>  (don't use kontact, it's evil)
[08:22] <Jucato> raylu: Kontact
[08:23] <raylu>  ?
[08:23] <raylu>  ooh, another question. what happens if i use: chmod -x chmod?
[08:23] <surgy> but those will comunicate with openoffice and work the same way? my mom is in internet school, and they are heavily dependant on outlook
[08:23] <surgy> raylu: it takes execute permission away
[08:23] <Jucato> communicate with openoffice?
[08:24] <raylu>  um....openoffice doesn't include or have anything to do with pop e-mail that I know of
[08:24] <Jucato> no it won't. you don't have access to the chmod file normally
[08:24] <raylu>  surgy, it would take them away on chmod...which is required to get them bac, right?
[08:24] <Kite_DH> surgy: which cd ripping prog?
[08:24] <surgy> jucato: getting late...... outlookexpress*
[08:24] <raylu>  *back
[08:24] <Jucato> !ripping
[08:24] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[08:24] <Jucato> Kite_DH: ^^^
[08:24] <raylu>  why would kontact/thunderbird be running at the same time as outlook express?
[08:25] <surgy> kite_DH: kaudiocreater
[08:25] <Jucato> Kite_DH: basically, Konqueror, KAudioCreator, Amarok, and K3b (I think)
[08:25] <Kite_DH> but its not audio file
[08:25] <surgy> jucato: i mean she wont have a problem comunicating with her class mates if everyone else uses ooutlook?
[08:25] <Jucato> Kite_DH: CD ripping = convert Audio CD content to <insert media format here>
[08:25] <raylu>  hm...I must go soon
[08:25] <Jucato> surgy: that I don't know...
[08:26] <Jucato> or had no need to
[08:26] <surgy> me either
[08:26] <raylu>  surgy, I doubt it. as long as it restricts itself to e-mail
[08:26] <surgy> but the school requires it
[08:26] <raylu>  *you're restricting it to e-mail
[08:26] <surgy> no i need something fully compatible with outlook express
[08:26] <raylu>  ...what do they do with outlook besides e-mail?
[08:27] <sampan> does OE run under wine?  :X
[08:27] <ForgeAus> that was a mess
[08:27] <sampan> somehow that seems like an abomination, but ...
[08:27] <ForgeAus> going to the other terminal screen wasn't so bad
[08:27] <ForgeAus> getting back was aweful!
[08:27] <surgy> raylu: group prjects uploading downloading sharing hell ive never used i dont know, i do know it has to be 100% compatible
[08:27] <ForgeAus> didn't want to repaint the screen properly
[08:27] <Jucato> surgy: what do you mean by "communicating" and "compatible" with outlook epxress?
[08:27] <raylu>  wtf...since when did outlook do all that?
[08:28] <raylu>  reading news feeds, surgy?
[08:28] <surgy> jucato: i mean able to send and receive files. dialogue assignments progress reports from kontact back to outlook and vice versa
[08:28] <surgy> raylu: im assuming
[08:28] <Jucato> surgy: in what format? I'm presuming those are just e-mails w/ attachments?
[08:29] <Jucato> but I'm not so familiar anyway, best bet would be to ask in #kontact
[08:29] <raylu>  or news feeds; I remember outlook did that too
[08:29] <surgy> jucato: i will have to educate myself....... i just assumed there was a program that cloned outlook....... ill learn and get back with you
[08:29] <ForgeAus> also my Nero D/L was halfway through which is probably corrupted/half-done/damaged by now...
[08:29] <ForgeAus> guess I should overwrite it
[08:29] <ForgeAus> 10 meg
[08:29] <Jucato> surgy: take note that Kontact isn't really an *exact* equivalent of Outlook, because whereas Outlook is just one app, Kontact is made of separate apps integrated into one app
[08:30] <raylu>  hm...well, g'bye everyone.
[08:30] <ForgeAus> is <IP_ADDRESS> the latest nero for linux? I thought nero was v 6 or so (at least in windows)
[08:30] <Jucato> surgy: fortunately, dependency on Outlook has never happened to me :D
[08:30] <surgy> jucato: noted
[08:31] <Jucato> Kontact can use KMail, KOrganizer, Akregator, KNotes, Basket, Karm, etc
[08:31] <Jucato> hm.. brb..
[08:31] <Jucato> 94.6 F...
[08:31] <surgy> jucato: no good for me
[08:31] <surgy>  <surgy> is kontact 100% compatible with outlookexpress?
[08:31] <surgy> [01:31]  <Bille> surgy: probably not
[08:31] <Jucato> surgy: I know, I'm there
[08:31] <Jucato> but like he said, we don't really know what you mean by
[08:32] <Jucato> compatible
[08:33] <surgy> i know
[08:33] <surgy> i will learn and come back
[08:33] <surgy> i have to go to bed
[08:33] <surgy> good night
[08:33] <surgy> nice chatting again jucato
[08:49] <Gtwy> is there a way to specify in the sudoers file SPECIFIC commands to allow a user to run as sudo
[08:49] <Gtwy> not just programs
[08:49] <Lynoure> Gtwy: tried  man sudoer  already?
[08:49] <Gtwy> yeah
[08:50] <Gtwy> everything seems to point to programs
[08:50] <Gtwy> like giving access to /etc/init.d/apache
[08:50] <Gtwy> i only want to give access to a full command
[08:50] <Lynoure> Gtwy: you can make scripts out of the specific command, and give access to just that
[08:51] <Gtwy> Lynoure: not a bad idea
[08:51] <Gtwy> thanks
[08:51] <Lynoure> You are welcome :)
[08:52] <Mena> hi
[08:52] <kraut> moin
[08:52] <Mena> !superkaramba
[08:52] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[08:59] <ForgeAus> hehe superkarumba is kewl
[09:00] <ForgeAus> is gnomes equivalent gdesklets?
[09:02] <Jucato> ForgeAus: yes
[09:02] <ForgeAus> thats kewl I like superkarumba way better
[09:07] <liviux> hi all friends. how can I solve the back replie message "the utility is not in your path" from bash when I try to open one archive file??
[09:08] <bumzo> guys .. .am back
[09:08] <bumzo> neen help
[09:09] <bumzo> who in here has installed frostwire?
[09:09] <fdoving> liviux: what type of archive?
[09:09] <bumzo> i have rightclicked on the .dep file ...said install
[09:09] <bumzo> asked for password
[09:09] <bumzo> starts installing ... then hangs at ''setting up frostwire pres <enter> to exit...''
[09:10] <nomad111> does any1 here kno any circuit analysis programs
[09:10] <bumzo> what does that mean?
[09:10] <nomad111> spice
[09:10] <nomad111> frontends
[09:10] <bumzo> jucato?
[09:10] <liviux> It's a .rar but I'm sorry now it work. I had need "unrar" utility...thank you :)
[09:10] <bumzo> raylu
[09:10] <bumzo> anyone
[09:10] <fdoving> nomad111: ktechlab, klogic, ksimus for example.
[09:10] <Jucato> bumzo: sorry, no experience with frostwire
[09:11] <bumzo> well .. how else can one install a .deb file?
[09:12] <Jucato> bumzo: er. that means it's done
[09:12] <Jucato> !frostwire
[09:12] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[09:12] <Lynoure> bumzo: from the command line, e.g.  sudo dpkg --install packagename
[09:13] <Jucato> um.. guys, it's installed already
 starts installing ... then hangs at ''setting up frostwire pres <enter> to exit...'' <--- it means, it's done setting up, and press Enter to close the window
[09:15] <piro_> what apt-get do you use to get emacs on kubuntu?
[09:16] <djdarkman> 1000     10260 59.2  0.0   2544   376 ?        Rs   Feb19 1362:13 /usr/bin/env bash??if [ "$1" = "--kinetd" ] ; then??# redirect stdin and stdout to the inetd
[09:16] <djdarkman> what is this process
[09:16] <djdarkman> ?
[09:17] <bumzo> your right jucato ... dumb me
[09:17] <bumzo> now i need to iupdrage my java to JRE 1.5
[09:20] <genii> djdarkman: inetd is the internet services super-server. It sits in the background and when it sees some request for instance for a webpage it starts up the webserver, for an incoming mail it starts up the email program. and so on
[09:20] <djdarkman> so a program of mine is using it too much?
[09:21] <nomad111> fdoving: those programs are for logic circuits
[09:21] <nomad111> fdoving: i wanted ones for analog circuits, soooooooo frustrated
[09:22] <nomad111> i havent got any programs for linux that i kno
[09:22] <fdoving> nomad111: then i have no clue.
[09:23] <genii> djdarkman: Not too likely unless you have your box misconfigured somehow
[09:23] <fdoving> you can try to search with apt:/ in konqueror.
[09:25] <bumzo> ok .. who can tell me how to update my java
[09:25] <Jucato> bumzo: did you do "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre"?
[09:26] <bumzo> will ''sudo apt-get update java'' work?
[09:26] <genii> djdarkman: I use the program "top" normally to see what is using a lot of cpu and so on. If you open a konsole and type in   sudo top     it will show you a list of things running ordered by how much resources they are using. You can exit with q key
[09:26] <bumzo> yes jucato ... and it install alright
[09:26] <Jucato> bumzo: then you have the latest java already. more updated than 1.5
[09:26] <bumzo> but frostwire tells me to upgrade to 1,5,0
[09:26] <Jucato> er..? java6 = java 1.6
[09:26] <dettoaltrimenti_> hello- can I make grep search the current directory, as well as other directories? or is there another command that does this?
[09:27] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: other subdirectories in the current directory?
[09:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> yes jucato
[09:27] <dettoaltrimenti_> sorry about that- yes, subdirectories
[09:27] <chavo> grep -r
[09:27] <bumzo> wait jucato...how do i veryfy i have installed the java?
[09:27] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: what chavo said
[09:27] <Jucato> bumzo: oh, you need to run this command, too: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[09:28] <Jucato> bumzo: it will give you a list of java versions to choose from. Choose the sun java version
[09:29] <piro_> java -version at cli
[09:30] <bumzo> ok .. .done .. choose 3 jucato
[09:30] <Jucato> bumzo: ok. I'm presuming #3 was the sun java? ok so you've confirmed that sun java is installed, and set the system to use that as the default
[09:31] <bumzo> EUREKA JUCATO ... itw orked ... loading frost wire
[09:31] <dettoaltrimenti_> the wildcard * doesn't seem to be working for me... could I have accidently done something to cause this?
[09:32] <Jucato> ?
[09:32] <bumzo> how do i put frostwire to appear in start menu???
[09:33] <piro_> right click taskbar unlock panels if its lock and configure --> menus --> edit k menu
[09:33] <dettoaltrimenti_> jucato- if I type, for example, "ls -R | grep *.mp3" I should get a list of all .mp3 files in the current directory and subdirectory right?
[09:34] <Jucato> er... not sure if grep accepts that
[09:34] <piro_> bumzo: then add new item and put the command used to exec. it in command and name it and all that stuff, then stick it in the program tree where you want
[09:34] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, you don't need the wildcard
[09:34] <Jucato> dettoaltrimenti_: besides, wouldn't "ls -R *.mp3" do the same thing?
[09:34] <dettoaltrimenti_> oh, you're right
[09:34] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, try this find -name "*.mp3"
[09:35] <dettoaltrimenti_> ah find, good command, thanks
[09:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> chavo- I have some m4a files that have mp3 copies, and I want to delete the m4a files, and I want to do it from the command line. "
[09:38] <mart81> why would a partition want to be in a group called plugdev?
[09:38] <dettoaltrimenti_> chavo- "ls -R | grep m4a" gives me a list of all the files I want to remove- what should the rest of the command be? rm what?
[09:39] <chavo> dettoaltrimenti_, for i in `find -name "*.m4a"`;do rm $i;done
[09:40] <dettoaltrimenti_> chavo- can I add -iv so it prompts me and lets me know what it deleted?
[09:40] <chavo> sure
[09:40] <chavo> you can also do for i in `find -name "*.m4a"`;do echo $i;done, to test it out first.
[09:41] <chavo> to echo which files will be rm'd
[09:41] <chavo> I usually do that first just in case
[09:41] <dettoaltrimenti_> chavo- yeah, it didn't work- since there are spaces in the names, each line is one word from the title
[09:44] <Mena> How to install this pyqt3.13
[09:45] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: find . -name '*.m4a' -exec command '{}' \;
[09:45] <Mena> plz
[09:46] <fdoving> dettoaltrimenti_: {} is the argument to the command. replace command with for example 'rm' if you want to delete the files.
[09:46] <Mena> i cant install it with adept i cant find it is there any other name for it
[09:47] <fdoving> Mena: looking for the python qt3 bindings?
[09:47] <Jucato> !info python-qt4
[09:47] <Jucato> er
[09:47] <ubotu> python-qt4: Python bindings for Qt4. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1488 kB, installed size 6944 kB
[09:47] <Jucato> !info python-qt3
[09:47] <ubotu> python-qt3: Qt3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16-1.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2209 kB, installed size 9968 kB
[09:47] <Jucato> Mena: ^^^
[09:47] <fdoving> :)
[09:48] <astarojilov>
[09:48] <Mena> fdoving, the problem i dont knwo what i need of thes thing bec i need it for super karamba for a theme called liquid weather
[09:48] <Mena> know*
[09:48] <fdoving> Mena: liquidweather.net can tell you what you need.
[09:49] <Mena> and the owner didnt mention what to install
[09:49] <Mena> just install pyqt3.13
[09:49] <fdoving> get python-qt3
[09:49] <Mena> fdoving, ok
[09:49] <Kite_DH> help...
[09:49] <Kite_DH> my keyboard
[09:50] <Kite_DH> somebody there?
[09:50] <craig> hi room
[09:50] <Kite_DH> can anybody help me
[09:50] <Mena> fdoving, Jucato, thanks ^_~
[09:50] <craig> whasts up kite
[09:51] <Kite_DH> pc said AccessX, how to
[09:51] <Kite_DH> activate to write again
[09:51] <Kite_DH> i copy paste rightnow
[09:51] <craig> any ladies here
[09:52] <Kite_DH> i played a game, i hold shift for 8+ secconds
[09:52] <Kite_DH> pc said something with AccessX , activate or not, i clicked activate, i can not write anymore
[09:52] <Jucato> Kite_DH: try holding it again for 8 seconds?
[09:52] <Kite_DH> i can not click buttons
[09:53] <craig> like to know whats wrong with camming
[09:54] <craig> kite are u m or f
[09:55] <Kite_DH> help
[09:56] <Mena> fdoving, how to set karamba to auto start
[09:56] <Mena> fdoving, i mean with the themes
[09:56] <fdoving> !autostart | mena
[09:56] <ubotu> mena: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:56] <Mena> fdoving, i try this but the program window start but the themes not
[09:57] <Mena> fdoving, do you know why
[09:57] <Jucato> Mena: just put a link to the superkaramba theme in the Autostart folder
[10:00] <bumzo> ala
[10:01] <bumzo> need help
[10:01] <bumzo> am trying to mount a hard drive and it gives me the error message ''
[10:01] <bumzo> Could not mount device.
[10:01] <bumzo> The reported error was:
[10:01] <bumzo> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:01] <bumzo> ??
[10:04] <^BeLLo^> i dont anderstand this:(
[10:04] <doktoreas> is there a way for printing from kubuntu using a printer on win xp?
[10:04] <bumzo> yes doktoreas
[10:05] <doktoreas> hi bumzo
[10:05] <bumzo> but you have to install the printer manualy
[10:05] <doktoreas> is there any guide for this task?
[10:05] <bumzo> open your system menu
[10:05] <Kite_DH> really, no idea?
[10:05] <doktoreas> bumzo: configuring k
[10:05] <doktoreas> bumzo: ok i have opened
[10:06] <Kite_DH> what should i do now...
[10:06] <bumzo> sorry ... .i meant open system settings dok
[10:07] <bumzo> then can u see ''printers''
[10:07] <skarr> whats the channel about
[10:07] <Lynx-> Hi. I have Kubuntu 6.10. I use English and Russian kb layouts, so I configured KDE to use the two layouts. The tray icon works fine and layouts change, but I cannot set up keyboard switching combination (ctrl+shift). The settings are present in KDE Control Module, but it seems they have no effect. What should I do?
[10:08] <doktoreas> bumzo: ok
[10:08] <bumzo> now ... can u see ''add printer'' ?
[10:08] <bumzo> click on add
[10:08] <bumzo> then go to ''printer/class''
[10:09] <doktoreas> yes i am in
[10:09] <bumzo> what type of printer do you have?
[10:09] <doktoreas> checking.. just a sec
[10:09] <doktoreas> damn phone :d
[10:10] <bumzo> follwo the wizard ... chose ''smb shared printers (windows)
[10:11] <Mena_> JUCATO, I DID AS YOY SAID but nothing happened
[10:12] <bumzo> hey jucato ... neeed help
[10:12] <bumzo> Could not mount device.
[10:12] <Jucato> Mena_: you made a link of the .theme file to ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[10:12] <bumzo> The reported error was:
[10:12] <bumzo> mount: can't find /dev/hda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:12] <Mena_> Jucato, yes
[10:12] <Kite_DH> Jucato screenshot http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/4205/bildschirmphoto1wj4.png
[10:12] <bumzo> thats the error message when i try access one of my HDD
[10:12] <Jucato> Mena_: strange... it should work...
[10:12] <^BeLLo^> i hate xorg grrrrrrrrrrrr
[10:12] <Jucato> Kite_DH: you can't select cancel?
[10:13] <Kite_DH> Jucato i was gaming, so i just clicked OK
[10:13] <Jucato> oh.. I don't know how to turn that off
[10:13] <Jucato> bumzo: sorry, no idea...
[10:14] <Adydas> YAYY
[10:14] <Mena_> Jucato, so what i must to do
[10:14] <Kite_DH> Jucato i'll never write again? :(
[10:14] <Jucato> Mena_: normally, if you leave an app running before you logout, it will be started when you log back in
[10:14] <Jucato> Kite_DH: what language is that? I can't understand it, but people from your locale might
[10:15] <Adydas> is there a lazy mans HTML program for KDE?
[10:15] <Kite_DH> german
[10:15] <Jucato> !de | Kite_DH
[10:15] <ubotu> Kite_DH: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:15] <Jucato> try #kubuntu-de
[10:15] <Kite_DH> but i asked them
[10:15] <Adydas> ich bein auslander and speak no german :p[
[10:15] <Kite_DH> they dont know either... :(
[10:15] <Jucato> :(
[10:15] <Mena_> Jucato, i know but i make it to start a new session if i made it to start with previuos tht would make the system slow right or no problem
[10:16] <bumzo> my amarok wont play mp3 files .... anyone know why?
[10:16] <Jucato> Mena_: usually no problem. I'm not sure why the superkaramba theme won't start though. it should
[10:16] <Adydas> bumzo: codecs
[10:16] <Jucato> bumzo: did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[10:16] <Jucato> Adydas: Quanta, the only KDE/Qt HTML editor/app around, is not a lazy man's program...
[10:16] <Mena_> Jucato, ok
[10:17] <Adydas> Alot of the superkaramba themes ive tryed are ass
[10:17] <Adydas> i only reccomend 2, Kubuntu monitor and weather++
[10:17] <bumzo> how do i install the codecs?
[10:17] <Mena_> Adydas, i use weather++ but the problem it cant start
[10:18] <Adydas> oh
[10:18] <Adydas> works good for me
[10:18] <Adydas> what do you mean wont start?
[10:18] <Adydas> Is SK running ( blue bloob like icon in the systemtray? )
[10:18] <Adydas> bumzo:
[10:18] <Adydas> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:18] <Mena_> Adydas, the theme
[10:19] <Jucato> Adydas: he means it won't autostart
[10:20] <bumzo> Reading package lists... Done
[10:20] <bumzo> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:20] <bumzo> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:20] <bumzo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:20] <bumzo> is only available from another source
[10:20] <bumzo> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[10:20] <Adydas> i was trying to find a way to do it like cron styles but took a while to realise its just a case of it loads what ever was last open on shutdown
[10:20] <Adydas> bumzo: check your repos
[10:20] <Mena_> Adydas , do i must add it also to the karamba or just to autostart folder
[10:20] <bumzo> repos ...as in?
[10:21] <Adydas> bumzo: i reccomend http://adydas.net/linux/repo-howto.txt
[10:21] <Adydas> it was rush made tonight, but it should help.
[10:21] <Adydas> somewhat...
[10:21] <Jucato> Adydas: does your guide have instructions for adding "multiverse"?
[10:22] <Adydas> Jucato: im going to fix it up in the morning
[10:22] <Jucato> :D
[10:22] <Adydas> i belive it has it in there, just not how to make sure its in there
[10:22] <Jucato> that's the specific section that bumzo needs
[10:22] <Jucato> er no. the sources.list you give at the top already presumes that multiverse is there
[10:22] <Adydas> Jucato: hence why i gave him it.. :p
[10:24] <Jucato> Adydas: I meant, he needs a specific section on adding multiverse, which is not in your guide, because it presumes that it's already there. otherwise, nice work :)
[10:26] <Chameleon22> hi all
[10:26] <Chameleon22> My USB stopped working. Mouse and kb are fine (both usb) however when I attempt to connect an external usb disk or a thumbdrive it doesnt do anything. This started happening after my machine rebooted (overheated and did a reboot - not very clean). i had this problem before and eventually reinstalled to fix it.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[10:26] <bumzo> cheers jucato .. upstading..
[10:27] <bumzo> updating*
[10:27] <yettenet> Could anyone tell me where I can set the default viewprofile for Konqueror? (the file manager part)
[10:27] <yettenet> I can't seem to find it :S
[10:29] <bianconeri> Hello, I am having problems with streaming video on FF, specifically gamespot.com videos do not work :S ....yahoo videos on the other hand do....any ideas?
[10:29] <nomad111> how the hell do i kno wat the password for a folder ive set up to share through samba
[10:30] <nomad111> on my other computer running windows it prompts for a username and password
[10:31] <nomad111> some1 help
[10:31] <nomad111> plz
[10:33] <Chameleon22> my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?
[10:34] <bumzo> still an error message when i run sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[10:38] <bumzo> jucato help
[10:43] <Chameleon22> my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?
[10:48] <biohazard_> #ubuntu-pl
[10:49] <bianconeri> Ok got gamespot to work on konqueror...just for future reference guys :D
[10:56] <sandro> hello ... i cant seem to find install help on acrobat reader .. the help for edgy results in 'couldnt find any package whose name or description matched "mozilla-acroread"'
[10:57] <Chameleon22> anyone?
[10:57] <oem> moin :D
[10:58] <WuChEn> evtl. jemand der der nen neuling ein wneig helfen kann?
[10:58] <huXfluX> Hello! Is it possible to apply PINNING to ffmepg through the /etc/apt/preferences file? NOTE that i'm running Kubuntu Edgy and that file currently doesn't exit. If i create a new one, will the preferences apply and the packages I want to PIN won't get updated ? THANK YOU!
[11:02] <WuChEn> anscheind garkeiner anwesend :D
[11:04] <huXfluX> hello ?
[11:04] <huXfluX> :)
[11:05] <WuChEn> hi
[11:05] <anees> how can I install wine on kubuntu
[11:05] <waylandbill> anees: from adept after enabling universe repo.
[11:05] <WuChEn> or by apt-get install wine :D
[11:06] <Jucato> (which should already be enabled by default)
[11:06] <waylandbill> WuChEn: or aptitude or synaptic. whatever you feel like using. :)
[11:07] <bianconeri> sandro: sudo aptitude install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[11:07] <WuChEn> i am a newby on kubuntu :) i have a problem
[11:07] <WuChEn> i hav einstall by cd yesterday, all works fine, then the updatemanager has update my system and a new kernl, now i have no sound :(
[11:07] <WuChEn> sry for my bad english xD
[11:08] <waylandbill> what sound card?
[11:08] <WuChEn> cmedia
[11:09] <yettenet> How can I set the default view profile in Konqueror?
[11:09] <WuChEn> its supported by alsa
[11:09] <WuChEn> if i run alsamixer
[11:09] <WuChEn> it says
[11:09] <WuChEn> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[11:10] <anees> I am also a newby in kubuntu
[11:10] <anees> I tried to install wine by apt-get install wine
[11:10] <waylandbill> WuChEn: no doubt alsa supports it. it sounds like the module didn't load though.
[11:10] <WuChEn> how can i reinstall the soundcarc or can kde automatic detectd se soundcard?
[11:10] <anees> but it does'nt work
[11:11] <waylandbill> anees: did it give an error?
[11:11] <anees> yes
[11:11] <WuChEn> package not found?
[11:11] <anees> yes...
[11:11] <anees> E: Broken packages
[11:11] <WuChEn> you musst edit the source.list in /etc/apt/
[11:12] <WuChEn> an duncommend the lines:
[11:12] <anees> ok
[11:12] <WuChEn> the deb lines remove the #
[11:13] <anees> ok
[11:13] <WuChEn> waylandbill: what can i do? i want to be sound but a newbie :D
[11:13] <waylandbill> anees: what was broken with the package? missing dependency?
[11:14] <anees> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:14] <chavo> yettenet, set the view to whatver you want then go to Settings -> Save View Profile "File Management" and save the profile. then restart the file manager
[11:14] <anees>   wine: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.11) but 1.0.10-2ubuntu4 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4-1) but 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12) but 1:4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libgphoto2-2 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libgphoto2-port0 (>= 2.2.1) but 2.1.6-5.2ubuntu8 is to be insta lled
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12) but 4.0.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libusb-0.1-4 (>= 2:0.1.12) but 2:0.1.10a-22ubuntu1 is to be ins talled
[11:14] <waylandbill> don't paste it.
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libxml2 (>= 2.6.26) but 2.6.24.dfsg-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees>         Depends: libxslt1.1 (>= 1.1.17) but 1.1.15-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:14] <anees> E: Broken packages
[11:14] <mart81> !pastebin
[11:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:14] <WuChEn> *g
[11:15] <genii> ai yai yai
[11:15] <yettenet> chavo: The point is that I don't want to overwrite the default one
[11:16] <genii> !pastebin | anees
[11:16] <ubotu> anees: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:16] <waylandbill> anees: do a sudo apt-get update
[11:16] <chavo> yettenet, then make a new profile
[11:16] <anees> ok
[11:16] <yettenet> chavo: Already done
[11:16] <yettenet> chavo: But I can't find a way to make it default
[11:16] <Chameleon22> my machine rebooted all of a sudden few days ago (got overheated). Didn't use it much since then and just noticed that the USB stoped responding to usb disks... Any idea how to fix this? it happened once before and i reinstalled to solve the issue since i couldnt find a solution. Any help?
[11:17] <chavo> yettenet, then make a launcher that opens "kfmclient openProfile profile_name"
[11:17] <anees> i m doing apt-get update
[11:17] <chavo> copy the file management launcher and modify it to open your profile, name it whatever you wnat
[11:17] <yettenet> chavo: Thanks
[11:17] <chavo> then you can have both profiles
[11:17] <anees> thanx man
[11:18] <Kite_DH> ...
[11:18] <chavo> np
[11:18] <Chameleon22> Also noticed that lsusb freezes and can not be killed (ctrl c or kill -9).
[11:18] <Chameleon22> anyone?
[11:19] <anees> after updating apt-get I tried to install wine again
[11:19] <anees> but not succeded
[11:19] <Kite_DH> Jucato: jucato? i got it fixed
[11:20] <Kite_DH> Jucato: settings:/Accessibility/
[11:20] <anees> waylandbill r u there?
[11:20] <genii> Chameleon22: Have you tried it with some different USB drive besides the one that was plugged into it when the reboot happened? The drive itself may be the problem here
[11:21] <Chameleon22> genii, tried with 2 drives, both have the same problem... work well in other machines
[11:22] <waylandbill> anees: sorry was busy a sec. still have dependency issues?
[11:22] <anees> yes
[11:23] <genii> Chameleon22: Does your computer reset the bios to some safe defaults if it has a spontaneous power-off? Some default bios settings disable the USB for instance when this happens
[11:23] <waylandbill> can you pastebin the sources.list please?
[11:24] <Chameleon22> genii, ohh i didnt know that ... i have bios options to 1. set default safe bios mode and 2. set optimised defaults
[11:24] <anees> ok
[11:24] <Chameleon22> never tried any of them
[11:24] <Chameleon22> perhaps now would be the time
[11:24] <Chameleon22> genii, unless you can think of other solutions
[11:24] <Chameleon22> genii, although when machine boots i can see USB devices being recognised on IRQ 10 and 11 etc
[11:25] <genii> Chameleon22: Well, it would be good to see if the USB is working for any kind of device, like scanner or printer or something like that
[11:25] <Chameleon22> genii, ye, mouse and keyboard are usb they work
[11:25] <Chameleon22> :/
[11:26] <genii> Chameleon22: Ah, but do they work in the same plugs that the external drive was in before? Perhaps it is on a different controller
[11:26] <Chameleon22> geni very possible since the once that dont work are at the front of the case...
[11:26] <Chameleon22> will check hold on
[11:26] <genii> OK
[11:26] <anees> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6835/
[11:27] <anees> I've pasted the sources.list
[11:27] <genii> anees Thank you for using the pastebin :)
[11:30] <waylandbill> anees: hmm. you have all the repos including the backports. you should be good to go. :-/
[11:31] <anees> ok...thanx man
[11:31] <anees> let me try once more
[11:31] <anees> thanx man it is downloading now
[11:31] <anees> thanx again
[11:31] <anees> i like you
[11:32] <anees> will you be my friend?
[11:32] <waylandbill> oh.. good deal.
[11:32] <waylandbill> :)
[11:32] <genii> Chameleon22: Other thoughts/possibilities: An USB plug was accidentally attempted to be plugged in reversed, which grounds out the power lead and reboots the machine instantly and has been known to damage the controller chip of that USB plug.  -- The IRQs may have been changed on the default settings from bios to something which another thing wants (like sound card, many like IRQ 10 a lot...
[11:32] <genii> ...for instance) -- Possibly the udev or hotplug subsystem files got corrupted and the part which deals with detecting mass-storage USB devices is messed up for some reason
[11:36] <anees> ok...add me in your msn
[11:36] <anees><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:36] <wtryller> Hello.  Can someone please help me find thee xecutable file to launch "Pan" newwreder, please and thank you.  I downloaded and extracted the package, but cannot find the executable.
[11:37] <waylandbill> I think IRC is enough chat for me. I don't use msn.
[11:37] <wtryller> pan newsreader
[11:37] <abattoir> wtryller: what is the name of the file you downloaded(with the extension), where did you dowload it from?
[11:37] <anees> ok
[11:38] <anees> thanx again
[11:38] <Forge> I do I use many chats
[11:38] <Forge> I forgot my Odigo tho
[11:38] <Chameleon22> genii, i is back... bios setting seem fine. front and back controllers - both dont recognise the drives
[11:38] <Pensacola> I reinstalled kubuntu with my /home on a seperate partition
[11:38] <Pensacola> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v634/Pensacola/kdecontrol.jpg this is my control center now
[11:38] <Pensacola> what went wrong?
[11:39] <Forge> I use Yahoo, MSN (now semi-joined) Icq AIM (also now joined) and less occasionally Jabber
[11:39] <Forge> which kinda joines them all anyway
[11:39] <huXfluX> Hello! Is it possible to apply PINNING to ffmepg through the /etc/apt/preferences file? NOTE that i'm running Kubuntu Edgy and that file currently doesn't exit. If i create a new one, will the preferences apply and the packages I want to PIN won't get updated ? THANK YOU!
[11:39] <Pensacola> kopete
[11:39] <Pensacola> Forge: kopete :)
[11:39] <Pensacola> or gaim
[11:39] <Forge> or trillian
[11:39] <tuco> Hello folks. Anyone who could help me with my logitech webcam and Canon MP130 printer. Can't find drivers and how to install them. Thanks in advance.
[11:39] <Forge> (hopefully Astra will have a linux port)
[11:40] <Pensacola> yeah but trillian is closed software :)
[11:40] <genii> Chameleon22: OK... did you try for instance plugging your usb mouse into the front plugs to see if it still works from there? You can do this without needing to restart or anything drastic. That would tell if the front ones work at all
[11:40] <Pensacola> I think kopete is the best IM software around
[11:40] <Chameleon22> genii, ye that was fine
[11:40] <abattoir> !webcam | tuco
[11:40] <ubotu> tuco: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:40] <Forge> I have a feeling unity is coming...
[11:40] <Chameleon22> genii, i had this exact issue before and couldnt find a solution so i reinstalled but want to solve ity once and for all now
[11:41] <Forge> Aqua, and windows might fall by the wayside...
[11:41] <genii> Chameleon22: OK, then my hunch is that you have corrupted hotplug or udev files somewhere then.
[11:41] <Smorg> Hello
[11:41] <Chameleon22> genii, thats my hunch too but thats as far as it goes since i dont know how to fix it
[11:41] <wtryller> abbitoir, it was a http://pan.rebelbase.com/download/releases/0.14.2/SOURCE/pan-0.14.2.tar.bz2
[11:41] <Chameleon22> genii, or even where to start
[11:42] <genii> Chameleon22:  Well, the idea would be to find the exact package names then do a reinstall over the old ones to refresh the files
[11:42] <abattoir> wtryller: which version of kubuntu are you using? dapper/edgy?
[11:42] <abattoir> !info pan
[11:42] <ubotu> pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-5ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 3616 kB
[11:43] <wtryller> edgy
[11:43] <abattoir> wtryller: because the application exists in the software repository, meaning you can install it easily, instead of compiling it from source
[11:43] <genii> Chameleon22: Gimme a minute and I'll look some stuff up on my dapper box..(I am on a windoze box atm)
[11:43] <Chameleon22> genii, yeah i thought about that, gave it a shot in a dark so to speak - package: libusb That didnt do it. Don't know what other packages to try
[11:43] <tuco> Ok I am trying now for the cam :--)
[11:43] <abattoir> wtryller: ok, open Adept Manager, and click on Fetch updates, after that, search for pan and install it from there
[11:43] <Chameleon22> genii, ok. *hands you a minute. Thank you :) I really want this bugger solved
[11:46] <wtryller> abattoir will do.  tnx
[11:46] <Smorg> I just got kubuntu installed... we'll see how i like this :-)
[11:46] <Smorg> on vmware :-/
[11:47] <waylandbill> vmware's a start. :-)
[11:47] <Smorg> eventuall have to reformat if i wanna replace windoze
[11:47] <waylandbill> no harm in seeing if it fits your needs first.
[11:48] <Chameleon22> genii, still there?
[11:48] <genii> Chameleon22: There seems to be possibly 2 relevant packages which could be needing refreshing... udev  and devfsd     you cannot uninstall udev (I've tried LOL) but you can do something like  sudo apt-get install --reinstall <names>
[11:49] <Chameleon22> genii, ye i tried --reinstall with libusb, will try udev ... hold on
[11:49] <genii> Chameleon22:  Yes, my machines are all spaced out here, I am walking 10 feet back and forth to the dapper box
[11:49] <tuco> Damn it doesn't work. My cam is a logitech IM! :-(
[11:49] <Chameleon22> genii, home setup or at work?
[11:49] <genii> Chameleon22: It's all the same thing ROFL
[11:50] <Chameleon22> hehe, how many boxens you got there?
[11:50] <genii> Chameleon22: Right now about 30
[11:50] <Chameleon22> f* me you maniac
[11:50] <genii> heh
[11:50] <Chameleon22> so i take it you work from home and run 60 machines!? what do you do?
[11:51] <tuco> guys what is module assistant?
[11:51] <waylandbill> tuco: it helps in building kernel modules
[11:52] <genii> Chameleon22: I'm an admin for an ISP here in Toronto. I have all these old P3 boxes here at home doing automated dapper installs over the network for handing out to poor ppl who can't afford things like windoze licenses for instance
[11:52] <Chameleon22> genii, uhhh i am going to Canada next year - backpacking with gf :)
[11:52] <Smorg> lol, I just typed "dir" at the prompt out of habit & it does the same thing.
[11:53] <Chameleon22> genii, we (in melbourne) have few organisations like that here that give out debian boxes to less fortunate
[11:53] <Chameleon22> genii, any way, reinstalled udev and devfs. Udev didnt do it. Devfs seems to say that i need to reboot
[11:53] <genii> Chameleon22: Cool :) These particular ones were given to us by the city, they are their old ones.
[11:54] <Chameleon22> genii, "devfsd: No devfs on /dev, not starting." is the output i am getting from --reinstall devfs
[11:54] <waylandbill> you don't have to be poor to not afford a windows license. just put something else in the budget that's more important. like kitty litter or someting. that's comparable.
[11:54] <genii> Well, try perhaps now the reboot then and I'll still be here to see how things went
[11:54] <Chameleon22> genii, you reckon me needs to reboot?
[11:54] <Chameleon22> i hate rebooting
[11:54] <Chameleon22> its a sin!
[11:54] <genii> I hear ya
[11:54] <Chameleon22> k be back soon(ish) ... reboot time
[11:55] <waylandbill> my daughter rebooted my home desktop the other day because she couldn't get a smart media card to open. I was bummed. That was almost 6 months up time. :-)
[11:56] <genii> waylandbill: :) I have 1 server that has now 1036 straight days of uptime (on a ups for part of that during a power blackout)
[11:56] <waylandbill> genii: that's some serious uptime there.
[11:57] <genii> Yeah you don't wanna know what my electric bills are like
[11:57] <waylandbill> hehe. I have two going non-stop 24-7 and my laptop when I'm home. It's not as bad as one might think.
[11:58] <genii> That particular box is a backup server that does incremental rsyncs of some remote boxes so it's almost always in use
[11:58] <Chameleon22> genii, no luck amigo :(
[11:59] <waylandbill> people spend more to have lights on outside all night long that just a couple boxes.
[11:59] <genii> Chameleon22: Damn
[11:59] <Chameleon22> genii, yeah
[11:59] <genii> Chameleon22: Let me think some more on the problem
[11:59] <tuco> sweet webcam working. I used that info here: http://scottabbey.org/node/12
[11:59] <Chameleon22> genii, okies... tried lsusb again and it goes zombee... if it makes sense to you
[12:00] <waylandbill> is that the usb not seeing usb disks?
[12:01] <waylandbill> if so, is the scsi modules getting loaded still?
[12:01] <tuco> the only problem is that it's not in colour but all blue and grey! Now the Canon MP130 printer :-)
[12:01] <genii> Chameleon22: Try reinstall of package  discover1-data
[12:02] <genii> and perhaps   libdiscover1     as well
[12:03] <Chameleon22> genii, doig it now... by the way i am using 6.10 just an FYI
[12:04] <Chameleon22> genii, no luck
[12:04] <genii> OK. The packages should all be same tho i am going by the lists on my dapper box
[12:04] <genii> There is discover2 as well, and libdiscover2
[12:05] <Chameleon22> genii, meh, i just checked i dont have discover2 any way so no point
[12:05] <Chameleon22> :/
[12:05] <genii> hwinfo  is next
[12:05] <Chameleon22> whats that
[12:06] <genii> !hwinfo
[12:06] <ubotu> hwinfo: Hardware identification system. In component universe, is optional. Version 13.4-1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:06] <Chameleon22> genii, dont have it installed any way
[12:06] <elbing> we have in our job a konica minolta Di2011 (bussiness solution) running over Active Directory. From two Linux we can to connect with it without problems and is perfectly configured with CUPS, but there is not ppd file in Konica web neither foomatic (they say yes, but really there is not any ppd file). Does anybody knows any ppd valid? we probed many generic postscript and HP and printer hangs.
[12:07] <genii> next is usbmount
[12:07] <Chameleon22> genii, not installed either
[12:07] <genii> Hmm
[12:07] <Chameleon22> exactly
[12:08] <genii> I think I would chance installing that one, my apt-cache describes it specifically for mounting usb mass-storage devices
[12:08] <Chameleon22> genii, k, hold on
[12:10] <Chameleon22> genii, that didnt do it either
[12:10] <Chameleon22> do i need a reboot for any of them or load a module of some sort?
[12:10] <Alcapond> Hi, can anyone tell me how to activate experimental packages for kubuntu 6.10? - I found on http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages some interesting packages (e.g. OpenOffice 2.1 or Basket 1.0) and would like adept to install them as well! Thx for help!