[05:44] <hoov> skel: psk with tkip
[05:44] <killown> my card is sudance encore enl832-tx-icnt  what modules I can up?
[05:44] <skel> hoov: but the intel wireless chipsets seem to work nice, as well as the cisco aironet and any of the orinoco chipsets
[05:44] <skel> hoov: what kernel version btw? is this edgy?
[05:44] <dwango> Jaws, hmm, what does "about:plugins" show?
[05:45] <skel> hoov: before dapper the standard kernel couldn't support wpa very well for most chipsets
[05:45] <dwango> Jaws: are you sure you have read permission for the file?
[05:45] <hoov> I'm running edgy now.  I can get the card to connect, via wep, but my preference would be wpa.
[05:46] <Jaws> dwango: It has the totem browser plugin, the RealPlayer plugin, Windwos Media Player, DivX, and Quicktime
[05:46] <skel> hoov: have you tried http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263136 ?
[05:46] <jlmb> AgentCy: weird, it mentions orinoco_cs not linux-wlan
[05:46] <hoov> The card by the way, is a dlink dwl-g630.  with the athos chipset
[05:46] <eternale1> skel: i removed the link to gdm from /etc/rc4.d .... same results :\ arrrgggggghhhh!
[05:46] <SAM_theman> ubotu, vmware
[05:46] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[05:46] <chapium> does anyone know how to setup an alarm in ubuntu?  Something that could wake someone up
[05:46] <Jaws> dwango: Im not sure, and Im not sure how to check...
[05:46] <dwango> Jaws: did you extract the file with sudo?
[05:46] <NDPowerBook> Nice. I like this updated version of X-Chat Aqua.
[05:46] <_Luks> OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[05:46] <_Luks> what does it means ?
[05:46] <skel> eternale1: why rc4.d ?
[05:47] <AgentCy> jlmb, i know :).. thats why i dont know what chipset this uses to be honest
[05:47] <skel> isnt 3 the default runlevel ?
[05:47] <jdrake> There was a kde disk utility that displays a pie chart of disk usage that somebody here pointed out two days ago. Does anyone recall its name?
[05:47] <Jaws> dwango: I extracted it with archive manager
[05:47] <jlmb> AgentCy: lol, ok
[05:47] <eternale1> skel: 3 i mean.
[05:47] <eternale1> mistype
[05:47] <skel> eternale1: ok
[05:47] <feross> chapium: hmm you can probably set cron to play a tune at a certain time
[05:47] <dwango> Jaws: well, that should work
[05:47] <skel> eternale1: so it still tries to start gdm then? hmm thats odd
[05:47] <Jaws> dwango: When I right click it says the owner is root, group is root
[05:48] <dwango> what are the permissions?
[05:48] <jlmb> AgentCy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29#check
[05:48] <jlmb> AgentCy: did you check that out? we need to verify your chipset
[05:48] <eternale1> skel: ya... it shows the ubuntu logo and the progress bar then flashes to the generic looking mouse crosshairs, then refreshes a few times then freezes... i'm wondering if its even getting to starting gdm
[05:48] <dwango> they look like "rwxr-xr-x"
[05:48] <AgentCy> jlmb, one sec
[05:49] <alanhaggai> how to download and install xorg.deb from the terminal? My xserver is not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. Please help.
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: oh yeah.. I forgot it uses upstart now
[05:49] <Jaws> dwango: Alright well I will keep messing with it some more
[05:49] <chi0_> hello all
[05:49] <feross> hoov: if you have to connect to several wifi locations easily I use NetworkManager.. it's awsome, works great with WPA too.
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: no more of the init system
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: well shit..
[05:49] <skel> eternale1: hang on
[05:49] <Andypat10> im having trouble installing the drivers for my ati 9250 i looked on the forums and i they reccomended i do, sudo aptitude update then sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx but after that i get
[05:49] <Andypat10> E: Sub-process /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true returned an error code (100)
[05:49] <Andypat10> E: Failure running script /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure --apt || true
[05:49] <Andypat10> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[05:49] <Andypat10> Any suggestions im trying to enable open gl 3d rendering on my card
[05:49] <eternale1> skel: ok cool
[05:49] <skel> anyone know anything about this upstart deal (googling too)
[05:50] <Abst> Whats all this about using keys instead of passwords for logins? I don't see a keyhole on my computer...
[05:50] <dwango> Jaws: Since the file is owned by root, you might not have read permissions for it as your normal user
[05:50] <AgentCy> jlmb, i believe ubuntu has switched over to pcmcia-utils since this was written
[05:50] <dwango> Jaws: try `sudo chmod 755 ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so`
[05:50] <hoov> feorss: yep, that's I like it too.
[05:50] <Jaws> dwango: ok
[05:50] <UFO64> Abst, i am guessing they use USB security keys
[05:50] <alanhaggai> how to download and install xorg.deb from the terminal? My xserver is not loading since I upgraded to Edgy. Please help.
[05:51] <Abst> !keys
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <alanhaggai> !xserver
[05:51] <skel> !upstart
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:51] <kevin> Does anybody know if the trash icon bug has been fixed?
[05:51] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  what happens when you type startx
[05:51] <jlmb> AgentCy: lshw didn't  work?
[05:51] <coz_> kevin, wht bug
[05:51] <alanhaggai> one minute wastrel
[05:52] <_Luks> OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0'
[05:52] <_Luks> what is it ??
[05:52] <kevin> coz_ the one that shows the trash icon always empty
[05:52] <coz_> kevin, are you on dapper or edgy
[05:52] <gu014> I just upgraded to edgy and after attempting to log in with my default session(GNOME) i continuously get looped back to the sign in screen. With any other session such as KDE i am able to login without issue. Just when i try and log in with GNOME i enter my user name and password and the screen goes black...hangs for a few seconds and then goes directly back to the sign-in screen??
[05:52] <Jaws> dwango: Alright well that gave me permission to it, but still nothing in firefox
[05:52] <alanhaggai> wastrel, I will logout and relogin. A small problem
[05:52] <kevin> coz_ edgy
[05:53] <coz_> kevin, I hve no bug for the trash how did you install?
[05:53] <skel> anyone know where the upstart config files are located? supposedly its event.d but I don't have an /etc/event*
[05:53] <kevin> coz_ using a cd
[05:53] <eternale1> skel: it seems like there are people having issues that somewhat relate to mine i think... unclear if its exactly related
[05:53] <coz_> kevin, yes, but is this a single install. a dual boot. etc/
[05:53] <Keyseir> .
[05:54] <rando_> Any font experts in here? Using Bitstream Mono for my terminal font looks great on gentoo. On ubuntu (eft), with identical settings, it looks horrible. I'm new to fonts on linux, so I'm only just leaning freetype, fontconfig, xft and all that.
[05:54] <AgentCy> jlmb, didnt show anything of value
[05:54] <skel> eternale1: I saw a couple of submitted bugs in relation to the update manager for edgy.. but I wasn't clear if they were resolved
[05:54] <kevin> coz_ it's a dual boot with xp
[05:54] <coz_> kevin, ok that is exactly my set up as well
[05:54] <chi0_> does any 1 know how i can setup a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M  w/ kubuntu?
[05:54] <kevin> coz_ mm
[05:54] <coz_> kevin, did you use the live cd install or the alternative install cd
[05:54] <jlmb> AgentCy: I'd try rebooting the notebook since it seems that another module is already loaded
[05:55] <kevin> coz_ both and I get the bug
[05:55] <rando_> does anyone know what gentoo does differently from ubuntu/debian, regarding fonts?
[05:55] <eternale1> skel:  i have event.d/  not much in there but small runlevel scripts calling the other runlevels
[05:55] <dbmonk74> can anyone advise on what to do after booting from LiveCD and having to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to fix the monitor?
[05:55] <dbmonk74> i'm at a loss and I can't find anything on the forums
[05:56] <skel> eternale1: supposedly thats where gdm will get called from
[05:56] <Frem> chi0_: Ubuntu set up mine fine. Or are you asking about 3d accelleration?
[05:56] <eternale1> skel: hmm
[05:56] <coz_> kevin well then either the cd downloads are corrupted, did you check the md5sums. or there is a conflict withe hardware, drivers etc
[05:56] <charle97> dbmonk, i'd do a full reinstall
[05:56] <gevaudan> What does everyone use in order to manage their wifi connections and store keys in ubuntu/gnome? I've used the kde wifi assistent in teh past but am curious to gnome alternatives?
[05:56] <coz_> kevin, tell me more. hve youinstalled anything since the initial install of edgy
[05:56] <derviche> hello, i just installed Edgy Eft on these computer, but during the instalation i gont an arror and i had the computer, is there a way to see if everything is installed ok?
[05:56] <kevin> coz_ no I did not
[05:56] <kevin> coz_ no
[05:56] <skel> vertigo: you upgraded with apt-get dist-upgrade right?
[05:57] <dbmonk74> charlie: i haven't gotten to the actual install portion
[05:57] <derviche> i upgraded with gksu "update-manager -c"
[05:57] <dbmonk74> i'm just booting from the livecd
[05:57] <charle97> dbmonk, oh sorry
[05:57] <Andypat10> anyone kno how to install the drivers for an ati 9250 (3D rendering wanted)
[05:57] <dbmonk74> no, np :)
[05:57] <skel> did anyone else using apt-get dist-upgrade not get upstart ?
[05:57] <lukeb> how do I make VLC my default player for .WMVS please?????
[05:57] <dbmonk74> ty for answering
[05:57] <derviche> but i had an error and i had to restart
[05:57] <charle97> dbmonk, i've never used the livecd
[05:58] <coz_> kevin, well then this is a problem on your end,.  without being there I may not be able to help.. if you have problem doing this. re dowunload the cd and try a fresh install erasing the partition. thorough the install procedure
[05:58] <derviche> now it seems ok
[05:58] <dbmonk74> i boot from live CD, then it says I can't use X - so i run the reconfig, and then I am not sure what to do next
[05:58] <gevaudan> luke: right click, open in another program then the third tab i think it is
[05:58] <kevin> coz_ no I did not md5sums
[05:58] <chi0_> does any 1 know how i can setup a ATI Radeon Xpress 200M  w/ kubuntu?
[05:58] <kevin> coz_ I'm going to redownload it
[05:58] <coz_> kevin, ok  since I assume this is a fresh install them you wont' have to much trouble reinstalling
[05:59] <lukeb> gevaudan, i meant in bubuntu
[05:59] <dbmonk74> i've got a command line - but i dunno what to enter in to get ubunto to load from there
[05:59] <wickedpuppy> !ati
[05:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:59] <coz_> kevin, that may be the first step in finding out exactly why this happened
[05:59] <kevin> coz_  see this ---> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/34247
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, startx ?
[06:00] <dbmonk74> it would be that easy, wouldn't it.
[06:00] <dbmonk74> *twap*
[06:00] <skel> eternale1: I'm going to restart quick.. brb
[06:00] <dbmonk74> sorry. i haven't touched linux in about  6 years
[06:00] <eternale1> skel: alright no problem
[06:00] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, then try 'man touch' .... jk jk :P
[06:01] <delaney> Is anyone aware of a command line way to recieve output describing your monitors refresh rate?
[06:01] <charle97> dbmonk, so what's making you touch ubuntu?
[06:01] <lukeb> gevaudan, oh thanks, gotcha mate
[06:01] <coz_> kevin, I see that. interesting though, I would assume a conflict with some piece of hardware. it may beminor  the reason I say that is I have the identical install as you and do not have that problem and I have already reainstalled 12 times to try to find the bugs in edgy and beryl
[06:02] <charlie5> hello ... can i increase the default stack size for apps in Ubuntu ?
[06:02] <coz_> kevin, so I really cannot do anything from this end . unless someone here has already had the experience and fixed it or figured out what the problem coudl be for thoses tha have this problem
[06:02] <dbmonk74> lol
[06:03] <kevin> coz_  well I have no problem getting that bug
[06:03] <dbmonk74> charle97: I'm tired of windows and it was reccomended to me
[06:03] <dbmonk74> hrm xstart - no such command
[06:03] <charle97> dbmonk, startx
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, startx ... not xstart
[06:03] <dbmonk74> aw, crap
[06:03] <kevin> coz_  :(
[06:03] <UFO64> !macbookpro
[06:03] <Jaws> dwango: Was hoping restarting gnome would maybe fix it, but it didnt
[06:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macbookpro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:03] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, should i tell you about bash auto-complete too ?
[06:03] <dbmonk74> i blame that on the beer and shots from last night. boozahol dyslexia
[06:04] <UFO64> what version should i use on a intel mac?
[06:04] <UFO64> an*
[06:04] <dbmonk74> hit tab while typing to auto complete?
[06:04] <AgentCy> jlmb, how would i append something to the boot line?
[06:04] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, bingo .. if you were doing it as you were typing xst you will see there is no such command as xstart
[06:05] <dbmonk74> i need to redeem myself to keep my geek card... *sigh*
[06:05] <dbmonk74> yay!
[06:05] <dbmonk74> it's working!
[06:05] <progek> Hello all, quick question before upgrading to edgy. Will it effect any settings or packages I currently have installed? For example, I have MySQL, Apache web server, software development tools for SDL, Java, C/C++ among other things. Will it be safe to just to a dist upgrade?
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, honestly , ubuntu isn't for geeks .. i would say other distros .. i would name no names :P
[06:06] <AgentCy> lol
[06:06] <gevaudan> What does everyone use in order to manage their wifi connections and store keys in ubuntu/gnome? I've used the kde wifi assistent in teh past but am curious to gnome alternatives?
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> progek, mine went fine ... others NOT .. so we can't tell ya
[06:06] <progek> hm. ok, thanks wicked
[06:06] <AgentCy> how do i append a parameter to the boot line?
[06:06] <eXcentra> gevaudan, i just use network-manager
[06:07] <skel> eternale1: anything in events.d ?
[06:07] <leighaquarius> has anyone here got Call of Duty 2 working under wine?
[06:07] <eternale1> skel: nope not much
[06:07] <gevaudan> eXcentra: that's not installed by default is it? i'll try...i just tried wifi radar but it was very buggy on a brand new edgy install
[06:07] <eternale1> skel: there are some files but nothing like a config
[06:07] <Exeakiel> How do you install a plugin into The Gimp?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> Exeakiel, #gimp
[06:08] <skel> eternale1: well not config but anything that would execute gdm that you can disable?
[06:08] <Exeakiel> No, I mean, it ubuntu blocks me from it.
[06:08] <coz_> Exeakiel, what plug in do you want to install
[06:08] <eXcentra> gevaudan, i don't know; i installed it myself. i think in edgy it might come default
[06:08] <Exeakiel> Planet render
[06:08] <_3uG_> Exeakiel, the best way would to use apt-get.. there's a list of plugins if you do this:
[06:08] <chapium> anyone in eastern indiana know what time it is?
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> Exeakiel, how does it block you ? gimp is gimp ...
[06:09] <coz_> Exeakiel, and is this a photoshop plugin?
[06:09] <_3uG_> apt-get install gimp|grep plugin
[06:09] <eternale1> skel: it seems to be all broken down by runlevels not specific processes for each level
[06:09] <Exeakiel> No, python script
[06:09] <_3uG_> chapium, that area is in the eastern time zone
[06:09] <_3uG_> chapium, so i guess it'd be around 1 or 12, depending on whether or not you've changed your clocks yet
[06:09] <coz_> Exeakiel, oh then I believe there should be a read me file that comes with the plugin no?
[06:09] <dbmonk74> thanks for the help so far guys - now... how do i get out of 640x480? it doesn't seem to present any other options
[06:09] <dbmonk74> i assume i need to find drivers?
[06:09] <Exeakiel> Nope, just the python
[06:10] <chapium> _3uG_: i dont want to get up an hour off
[06:10] <chapium> :(
[06:10] <skel> eternale1: hmm ok
[06:10] <Zesty> Why does compiling a c++ script (with a class) result in : '/tmp/ccKXgGza.o: In function `main':main.cpp:(.text+0x50): undefined reference to `test::echo(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >)'?
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, yes .. for your graphics card .. then install them
[06:10] <_3uG_> chapium, then set your clock back one hour now
[06:10] <Jaws> Anyone have any ideas on how to get Firefox to see the flash 9 plugin, I have it in the ~/.mozilla/plugins directory but firefox doesnt load it
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, i would recommend ##c++
[06:10] <timfrost> jaws,
[06:10] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, btw pls don't say C++ script .. its not scripting language :P
[06:11] <Zesty> wickedpuppy, it seems much more refined to the *buntu environment.
[06:11] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, where you ask is up to you ... i can only recommend what i think its best place to ask
[06:11] <Exeakiel> error while copying to "usr/share/g.../2.0/scripts".
[06:12] <Zesty> What would you prefer I named it wickedpuppy?
[06:12] <Exeakiel> You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[06:12] <skel> Zesty: what component of ubuntu is this ?
[06:12] <alanhaggai> wastrel : X server is now disabled. Restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[06:12] <timfrost> jaws, I have it installed in the system directories: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and  /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so are symlinks that point to the file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so (I installed flashplayer-nonfree frm Seveas repository)
[06:12] <wickedpuppy> Zesty, btw how do you expect us to debug your error without seeing the whole program ? i wonder if anyone can do this
[06:12] <coz_> Exeakiel, right there are 2 ways to remedy that
[06:12] <Zesty> skel, using g++
[06:13] <coz_> Exeakiel, may I pm you
[06:13] <rrittenhouse> When i do an upgrade from say breezy to dapper, does that actually change *everything*...i did notice the actual theme was not changed (and wasnt aware if i could change it afterwards)
[06:13] <bo1> hello... i have a question about bridging using brctl... can anyone help me out?
[06:13] <Exeakiel> On a forum?
[06:13] <skel> Zesty: so to clarify, you wrote a program in C++ and are compiling it and have an error and want help debugging it?
[06:13] <Exeakiel> Otherwise yes
[06:13] <charlie5> mmm, do i have to re-compile the kernel to change default stack size ?
[06:13] <skel> Zesty: or linking it rather
[06:13] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you need to fix your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file - do you have nvidia or ati?
[06:13] <Jaws> timfrost: Is that flash 9?  In the install readme there is nothing about needing flasplugin-nonfree
[06:13] <Zesty> No skel, the program should compile, but I receive the former error
[06:13] <Carbonflux> you need the #C++ channel
[06:13] <wickedpuppy> lol
[06:14] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I have nVidia GeForce 6200
[06:14] <skel> Zesty: as I asked before, what program are you compiling?
[06:14] <xipietotec> what is flash9 called in sev's repo anyway?
[06:14] <coz_> Exeakiel, do you see the tab on xchat if you are on xchat
[06:14] <wickedpuppy> skel his own i think
[06:14] <Alakazamz0r> http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+osx%2C+debian%2C+gentoo%2C+mandriva%2C+freebsd&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
[06:14] <_3uG_> does anyone know how to get the sidewinder controller to work in edgy? it worked *just fine* in dapper, but i can't get it to work in edgy
[06:14] <chuckles2007> why is us.archive.ubuntu.com so slow and is there a way around it?
[06:14] <alanhaggai> wastrel : so what should I do?
[06:14] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you should follow the nvidia howto - can you read web pages?
[06:14] <Exeakiel> I'm chatzilla, it says I need to register.
[06:15] <coz_> Exeakiel, yes you need to register you nic before i can pm you
[06:15] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I am using the terminal :(
[06:15] <skel> wickedpuppy: =P so I think he wants help debugging his code but I can't be sure
[06:15] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  you know how to switch to another virtual terminal?  alt-f2,    alt-f1, etc ?
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> skel, not without seeing the whole code ...
[06:15] <Jaws> timfrost: also, is the owner root on the plugins or are they to your user
[06:15] <alanhaggai> yes wastrel
[06:15] <shadok> use lynx or w3m
[06:16] <Exeakiel> I registered
[06:16] <chuckles2007> anyone...?
[06:16] <alanhaggai> ok Shadok
[06:16] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  yes, lynx or w3m  can open web pages.  and go to this link...
[06:16] <timfrost> jaws, yes, that is flash 9.  You probably don't need Seveas package although I did install it.  Firefox reports '    File name: libflashplayer.so    Shockwave Flash 9.0 d55'
[06:16] <Lubix> hey
[06:16] <wastrel> !nvidia | alanhaggai
[06:16] <ubotu> alanhaggai: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <Lubix> whats up peoples?!
[06:16] <chuckles2007> is there an alternative to us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:16] <_3uG_> try taking the us off of it
[06:16] <wickedpuppy> chuckles2007, change the country code
[06:16] <dbmonk74> okay... one last q tonight i promise - how do i install the video driver?
[06:16] <alanhaggai> thanks wastrel :)
[06:17] <alanhaggai> I will check that
[06:17] <chuckles2007> will it get any faster? im getting ~2.5kbs right now
[06:17] <_3uG_> !ubotu
[06:17] <chuckles2007> with dsl... and my connection is fine
[06:17] <Jaws> timfrost: ok, i will try putting them in both system directories, i had it in the firefox one earlier but that didint work
[06:17] <bo1> need help w/ bridging.. anyone know anything about it?
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, how do we tell you without you telling us your video card ?
[06:17] <botxj> is it possible to have a router/firewall in ubuntu?
[06:17] <wickedpuppy> botxj, iptables
[06:17] <alekz> if i apply a patch on the kernel, and the compile and install it, am i running a big risk ?
[06:18] <botxj> !iptables
[06:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:18] <botxj> what about routing?
[06:18] <botxj> blah
[06:18] <_3uG_> how can i get a list of ubotu !options?
[06:18] <skel> botxj: try using shorewall
[06:18] <alekz> ubotu search recompile kernel
[06:18] <dbmonk74> oops
[06:18] <dbmonk74> intel integrated 865
[06:18] <timfrost> jaws,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29005/
[06:18] <dbmonk74> i have the driver now
[06:18] <botxj> i use smoothwall in my hardware router
[06:18] <Abst> Is it safe to remove all files in the /var/cache/apt folder
[06:19] <charle97> abst, yes
[06:19] <Abst> /var/cache/apt/archives even
[06:19] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, whats the driver file name ?
[06:19] <skel> botxj: if you like smoothwall you'd probably like ipcop
[06:19] <al[e] x> firefox crashes to much in edgy
[06:19] <botxj> hmm, ipcop, i'll look into that
[06:19] <Lubix> firerfox does have crash tendenecy did you upgrade or fresh install?
[06:20] <charle97> abst, use sudo apt-get clean
[06:20] <Chu> Would mounting a live cd work as an unexperienced person would expect, or would it be a heck of a lot messier?
[06:20] <godmachine81> Abst:: in some cases when packages get upgraded but you want your older version, you might want to keep the archives around
[06:20] <al[e] x> fresh install
[06:20] <Abst> Thanks
[06:20] <AgentCy> jlmb, still around?
[06:20] <alanhaggai> wastrel : it says that the webpage does not exist
[06:20] <dbmonk74> that all depends - do you mean the .tar.gz file? or the driver that lurks somewhere within there?
[06:20] <skel> botxj: did you want to turn an ubuntu installation into a router / firewall  or just have a firewall on your desktop?
[06:20] <godmachine81> AgentCy:: im around
[06:20] <godmachine81> lol
[06:20] <AgentCy> lol
[06:20] <jlmb> AgentCy: yeah
[06:21] <monokrome> hey
[06:21] <Lubix> well i did a upgrade i have a similar problem sometimes it just disappears
[06:21] <monokrome> Anyone in here use feh?
[06:21] <botxj> skel: i was curious if i could turn it into something like smoothwall
[06:21] <wickedpuppy> dbmonk74, search for it in synaptic or apt-cache ... there should be ubuntu driver without you compiling it.. and also pls do search on google
[06:21] <botxj> with routing
[06:21] <skel> botxj: yeah, in that case I think you want a specialized distro if you want the ease of use and features, I highly recommend ipcop
[06:22] <dbmonk74> will do - thx
[06:22] <alanhaggai> !nvidia
[06:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <AgentCy> jlmb, i did a "sudo lshw -businfo" and it displayed (blank) network WBM-120 Wireless Adapter
[06:22] <AgentCy> jlmb, blank is where the businfo should be, lol
[06:22] <vidd> #ubuntu
[06:22] <jlmb> AgentCy: hlol
[06:22] <Jaws> timfrost: Can I run those in terminal?  I just paste each line in after i get the flash-nonfree
[06:23] <wastrel> alanhaggai:  how about  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:23] <AgentCy> any thoughts?
[06:23] <jlmb> AgentCy: Not sure man, I've been with the same hardware, wifi device since before ubuntu was conceived...I'm kinda rusty on digging hardware support :(
[06:24] <pooru> has anyone installed the ATI 8.29.6 drivers on edgy?
[06:24] <AgentCy> jlmb, well thanks for all your help anyways
[06:24] <skel> AgentCy: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices ?
[06:24] <SilentDis> hello :)
[06:24] <pooru> i followed the guide online perfectly, and after my restart fglrx info does not work right
[06:24] <keelbill> hi
[06:25] <Geoffrey2> dbmonk74, if you have an 800 series Intel video chip, make sure you install 915resolution, it's needed for all 800 and 900 series video chips
[06:25] <skel> AgentCy: err.. not usb
[06:25] <yoyo> could anyone tell me how to gain access to "My Downloads" directory in Ubuntu via the terminal?
[06:25] <skel> AgentCy: but you get the point
[06:25] <keelbill> wuold any of you help me with my video resolution?
[06:25] <keelbill> it suddenly fkd up
[06:25] <keelbill> i restored the xorg file to what it was
[06:25] <keelbill> but no luck
[06:25] <SilentDis> stupid question of the day:  a friend burned a copy of Edgy Eft to disk for me (i'm stuck in the boonies, on dialup).  is it possible to perform an in-place upgrade?
[06:25] <jlmb> AgentCy: np, sorry couldn't fixed your problem.
[06:25] <t73net> Anyone here have experience setting up Tomcat5 Admin WAR PM Me please
[06:25] <timfrost> jaws, you need to do 'sudo ln -s  /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so;sudo ln -s /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so'
[06:26] <godmachine81> anyone know if feisty is going to be a 4 month release or if its going to be a 6 month release?
[06:26] <GigaClon> 6 month most likley
[06:26] <godmachine81> 6.06 came late.. didnt know if it messed everything up or not
[06:26] <keelbill> wuold any of you help me with my video resolution?
[06:26] <godmachine81> GigaClon:: you think thats why 6.10 was rushed?
[06:26] <godmachine81> to get back on schedule?
[06:26] <t73net> what exactly about it keelbill?
[06:26] <GigaClon> prolly
[06:26] <AgentCy> skel, cant make sense of it, but does not look like my card is listed in pci/devices
[06:26] <keelbill> is there other file besides xorg.conf involved with screen resol?ution
[06:27] <GigaClon> the next one will prolly be in 6 months
[06:27] <keelbill> well it only list 800x600 mode
[06:27] <vidd> keelbill.......rund dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:27] <godmachine81> GigaClon:: if it is falling back to the original release cycles it should be 7.04
[06:27] <keelbill> already did that vidd
[06:27] <godmachine81> dapper was originally suppose to be 6.04 i think
[06:27] <keelbill> no luck
[06:27] <skel> AgentCy: what about lspci -vvv
[06:27] <Jaws> timfrost: I still dont have flashplugin-nonfree
[06:27] <keelbill> gets worse oand only goes to 600x400 mode
[06:28] <Jaws> timfrost: I dont know how to get it...
[06:28] <keelbill> also i restored my xorg.conf to my back up one
[06:28] <vidd> what video card you have?
[06:28] <t73net> keelbill: OK if I im you ?
[06:28] <keelbill> but still no luck
[06:28] <JDStone> does EDGY use hotplug?
[06:28] <yoyo> i need to gain access to My Downloads directory via the terminal...how do i do it?
[06:28] <timfrost> godmachine81: They put a lot of extra effort into dapper, and delayed the release date by 6 weeks.  So the short cycle for edgy brought us back to the cycle of releases in april (x.04) and October (x.10)
[06:28] <keelbill> it's a FX55oo
[06:28] <timfrost> jaws,
[06:28] <RamiKassab> hey guys, I have a couple questions regarding file permissions. I have running a dev web server that has ispconfig on it and under each site I create a user account with shell access for each individual that develops on the system, however, we sometimes work on file that other people create but the default umask is set to 022 which makes the files writeable by the user but not by group nor everyone. First off, how can I set the default
[06:28] <RamiKassab> umask for all new user accounts and secondly, what umask would you use that enables the group to write to the file as well? Thanks in advance guys!
[06:29] <AgentCy> skel, the slot shows up, e.g. the pcmcia card reader, but the device itself does not
[06:29] <eXcentra> yoyo: cd /path/to/"My Downloads" ?
[06:29] <t73net> I had that occur to me once keelbill. I simply did a ctl-alt-backspace to restart xserver, and it reloaded fine
[06:29] <skel> AgentCy: ooh this is a pcmcia card?
[06:29] <t73net> I have a FX5200
[06:29] <AgentCy> skel, correct
[06:29] <godmachine81> timfrost:: yea thats what i was thinking
[06:29] <eXcentra> yoyo: or cd /path/to/My\ Downloads
[06:29] <keelbill> nah treid that already
[06:29] <keelbill> even rebooted several times
[06:29] <mkruskamp>  I am running xgl on gnome... my resolution is 1600x1200. When I run gnome without xgl everything
[06:29] <kestas> anyone here have 24mbit internet?
[06:30] <mkruskamp>                    looks fine, but when I run gnome with xgl, all of the application fonts are huge.
[06:30] <Phoul> Hey, Whats good/easy to use streaming software?
[06:30] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:30] <killown> why?
[06:30] <yoyo> hey eXcentra  THANXXX ....gonna try that.....
[06:30] <Phoul> I want to get a internet stream up for a party my friends having
[06:30] <keelbill> ctrl+alt+back space is a no go
[06:30] <t73net> keelbill: Yeah you prolly hosed your xorg.conf file.
[06:30] <keelbill> any other aideas there should be another way out of this besides format
[06:30] <skel> AgentCy: hmm.. do you have the pcmcia kernel modules?
[06:30] <hap0> Hello ?
[06:30] <Phoul> Whats a good and easy to use shoutcast like thing
[06:30] <godtvisken> is there like an events scheduler in ubunt?
[06:30] <godtvisken> ubuntu*
[06:30] <AgentCy> skel, dont believe so, i would get those?
[06:30] <keelbill> my xorg file is good
[06:31] <keelbill> i even had a back up
[06:31] <t73net> keel: To my knowledge, there is no other place to edit your resolutions
[06:31] <keelbill> and replaced it again
[06:31] <hap0> Wow that took awhile. For a second there I thought there was no one here...
[06:31] <AgentCy> skel, you mean pcmcia-utils package?
[06:31] <skel> AgentCy: well at this point, the card reader will show up on the bus, but the reader itself wouldn't know what to do with the signals from the card without a driver
[06:31] <keelbill> i will boot into cmd line mode and restore the xorg again
[06:31] <timfrost> jaws, put the .so somewhere (eg /usr/local/lib), and create the symlinks pointing to that location.  The deb line is 'deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ edgy-seveas custom extras seveas-meta' if you are using edgy.
[06:31] <keelbill> and see if that works
[06:31] <SilentDis> quick question:  I have a copy of 6.10 on CD, and would like to upgrade my existing 6.06 release.  how do I go about this?
[06:31] <skel> AgentCy: that may be useful, but I mean like a driver for the pcmcia device
[06:32] <Phoul> Anyone know how to set up a stream?
[06:32] <keelbill> !fix resolution
[06:32] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:32] <killown> why?
[06:32] <uni> HAI
[06:32] <yoyo> THANX FOR THE HELP!!! IT WORKED....
[06:32] <Phoul> I wanna stream some music for some friends party
[06:32] <eXcentra> yoyo, cool
[06:32] <AgentCy> skel, ok, could you help me with that first? :-P
[06:32] <t73net> godtvisken: Most things you want to run on regular basis like alarm clock, OR what are you looking for?
[06:32] <vidd> anyone know how to get bcm43xx to work on edgy?
[06:32] <skel> AgentCy: I can try =]  gimme a sec to poke around in my kernel modules, I don't know if it provides one by default.  Is this edgy btw?
[06:32] <yoyo> i'm such a NEWBIE in linux...still learning the very basics...going step by step...
[06:33] <AgentCy> skel, yeah i just upgraded to edgy, but this was a dapper problem as well
[06:33] <killown> I load module sudance to my card network encore but I not found eth1 , only eth0 to my card via rhine
[06:33] <killown> why?
[06:33] <skel> AgentCy: first of all, do you get any output from: lsmod | grep pcmcia  ?
[06:34] <hap0> Question: Anyone know why the display resolutions in xorg.conf are not available via the main GUI???
[06:34] <t73net> Anyone with Tomcat5 Install Experience ?
[06:34] <SilentDis> it's busy, i'll poke around the wiki for my answer.  take care :)
[06:34] <UNI> HELOW
[06:35] <UNI> //////////////
[06:35] <vidd> anyone know how to get bcm43xx to work?
[06:35] <zaatar> Hey, is there a way to reinstall a clean installation of ubuntu on instead of another ubuntu installation without messing with the windows partition?
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> vidd, you can find Broadcom wireless instructions here.... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom
[06:35] <hap0> It wouldn't be so bad if the ones defined in xorg.conf were treated as the authority, but I have no idea where the system preferences are getting their settings from???
[06:36] <wastrel> hap0:  probably an effect of using the binary driver for ati or nvidia (?)
[06:36] <Jaws> timfrost: How do i get the key...
[06:36] <skel> hap0: was that wpa setup thread useful at all?
[06:36] <AgentCy> skel, yes.. pcmcia     38972 0            pcmcia_core 42128 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
[06:36] <dredhammer> is there a guide to get samba with vmware server on the same computer?
[06:37] <charle97> zaatar, i did that last night
[06:37] <Lubix> were can i find a channel not full on freaking partition questions
[06:37] <UNI> 23E432Q
[06:37] <UNI> WE3125
[06:37] <Lubix> you know like smart people?
[06:37] <UNI> 35465Y
[06:37] <UNI> Y45U7I
[06:37] <hap0> wastrel: That's a great guess! yes I am using the binary driver for nvidia. Can you point me toward the right file to edit then?
[06:37] <UNI> 6UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
[06:37] <zaatar> charle97: is it an option in the cd?
[06:37] <xipietotec> @lart Lubix for being mean
[06:37] <cafuego> Lubix: undernet is full of smart people just like you.
[06:37] <wastrel> hap0:  sry i have ati myself :]
[06:37] <timfrost> jaws, what key?
[06:37] <charle97> zaatar, the only thing it would mess with is the mbr
[06:38] <Jaws> timfrost: When i try and update the repository
[06:38] <wastrel> !nvidi
[06:38] <Lubix> i am sorry im tired and bored
[06:38] <charle97> zaatar, and you're going let ubuntu do that anyway
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <wastrel> !nvidia
[06:38] <skel> AgentCy: ok so it looks like its working more than you think, it loaded the yenta driver as well as the pcmcia
[06:38] <Lubix> happy end of daylight savings to all!!!!
[06:38] <hap0> wastrel: Heh, well thanks for the guess... Did you have a different config file for the ATI card?
[06:38] <cafuego> start, you mean?
[06:38] <zaatar> charle97: oh, i would just install ubuntu, formatting the other ubuntu partition in the process, no?
[06:38] <UNI> HELOW LUBIX
[06:38] <skel> AgentCy: could you paste the output of lspci -vvv to http://rafb.net/paste  ?
[06:38] <charle97> zaatar, yes it is
[06:38] <Lubix> uni< hello
[06:39] <zaatar> cool, thanks
[06:39] <cafuego> uni: your caps-lock key seems to be stuck.
[06:39] <wastrel> hap0:  not for the fglrx driver  there is an aticonfig prog, i don't know what it does because i haven't had to use it.
[06:39] <Lubix> my computer does random things
[06:39] <charle97> zaatar, backup your important stuff first
[06:39] <Lubix> because of ubuntu
[06:39] <AgentCy> skel, 3 v's, correct?
[06:39] <Lubix> i need Suse
[06:39] <Lubix> bye
[06:39] <Edgan> Anyone notice Metacity in Edgy doesn't allow you to grab a window and switch workspaces, via a hotkey, with it?
[06:39] <skel> AgentCy: yeah
[06:39] <charle97> zaatar, you never know what may happen
[06:39] <timfrost> jaws, sorry.  the GPG key is available via 'wget http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -'
[06:39] <zaatar> true
[06:40] <Lubix> i love linux
[06:40] <wastrel> Edgan:  you can drag windows between workspaces in the workspace switcher applet
[06:40] <Edgan> wastrel: the way I describe used to work and is still mentioned in the README
[06:40] <Lubix> i hear people at work talk about mcse and i laugh i hate microsoft and i would never ever ever become certified to work with ms products
[06:40] <wastrel> oic
[06:40] <Lubix> die ms die
[06:40] <UNI> huiks
[06:41] <wastrel> Edgan:  did you check  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts  ?
[06:41] <K`zan> LOL, hear! hear :-)
[06:41] <AgentCy> !pastebin
[06:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:41] <skel> I would get a MCSE just to go into places with "Solutions" and replace windows with linux :-P
[06:41] <hap0> wastrel: Yeah, well this is the first I've ever seen it suggested that there may be another source for config... I've always dealt directly with the text files under /etc/X11
[06:41] <UNI> helo every body
[06:41] <Edgan> wastrel: I don't think it is it's own shortcut. You switch desktops with a shortcut, and that works, but you are supposed to be able to use the same shortcut after grabbing a window to bring it with you
[06:41] <Lubix> viva, viva la revulution!!!
[06:42] <UNI> yeach
[06:42] <Jaws> timfrost: ok i should be able to install it with this sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[06:42] <Lubix> of spelling!
[06:42] <K`zan> Ah, started to install ubuntu (amd64) and got to the pick partition and it doesn't seem to see / accept my selection for the root partition( free partition /dev/sda12 on my working drive)  help?
[06:42] <Lubix> microsoft tell us how to spell
[06:42] <Lubix> make up your speelings
[06:42] <AgentCy> skel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29006/
[06:42] <Lubix> beee oreganal
[06:42] <skel> AgentCy: okie, just a sec
[06:42] <timfrost> Jaws: yes you should.
[06:42] <godmachine81> !weather 42602
[06:43] <godmachine81> wow
[06:43] <inuyasharenegade> Location: , Updated: 1:40 AM EDT on October 29, 2006, Temp:  F, Wind Chill: 44 F, Dew Point: 33 F, Humidity: span class="pwsrt" pwsid="KKYMONTI1" pwsunit="both" pwsvariable="humidity" english="" metric="" value="61", Pressure:  in., Conditions: Clear, Wind: mph 5.0km/h </span>, Visibility: 10.0 miles
[06:43] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, what is your problem?
[06:43] <godmachine81> oops
[06:43] <godmachine81> i was about to say amazing
[06:43] <Madpilot> Lubix, please try to stay on-topic, this is a support channel... chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you like
[06:43] <alanhaggai> hi wastrel :)
[06:43] <Lubix> ok
[06:43] <alanhaggai> thanks for the important tip and link :)
[06:43] <Abst> !info enlightenment edgy
[06:43] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[06:43] <skel> AgentCy: what type of wireless card is it?
[06:43] <Lubix> who needs help?
[06:43] <AgentCy> pppode_dude, having issues getting my pcmcia wireless card working... to be honest i dont even know what chipset it is :-p
[06:43] <wastrel> np
[06:43] <AgentCy> the card is a "gateway wbm-120"
[06:44] <Jaws> timfrost: well it says its not available and that it has no installation candidate
[06:44] <alanhaggai> wastrel : I have set everything right and XServer is working well
[06:44] <xipietotec> Enlightenment: The ugly window manager =P
[06:44] <godmachine81> Lubix:: tail -f /dev/null
[06:44] <alanhaggai> thanks :)
[06:44] <AgentCy> it's either prism2 or orinoco_cs
[06:44] <alanhaggai> now have to enjoy Edgy :)
[06:44] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, does it appear when you start "sudo network-admin"?
[06:44] <Lubix> dev null urself
[06:44] <godmachine81> heh
[06:44] <Edgan> wastrel: going to try downgrading metacity
[06:45] <AgentCy> pppoe_dude, unfortunately no
[06:45] <wastrel> heh have fun with that
[06:45] <godmachine81> Lubix:: sudo cp /dev/null /dev/hda1
[06:46] <godmachine81> alright im gonna stop lol
[06:46] <Lubix> man im tired
[06:46] <skel> AgentCy: do you have output from lsmod | grep prism2  ?
[06:46] <Edgan> wastrel: it worked
[06:46] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, shouldn't you have intel wireless?
[06:47] <eternale1> skel: boot using "Linux single" so gdm is not started... whats that exactly saying to do?
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, seems like you have a centrino chip there...
[06:47] <wastrel> so the question is - did ubuntu take it out or did upstream
[06:47] <eternale1> skel: something i found on a post about a differnet bug for ubuntu 6.06
[06:47] <skel> eternale1: ah in the boot config you can put a parameter on the kernel line at the end "single" that boots it into single user mode, ie runlevel 1
[06:47] <AgentCy> skel, no output
[06:47] <pppoe_dude> with all the intel integrated stuff
[06:48] <AgentCy> pppoe_dude, it is a centrino, no integrated wireless
[06:48] <skel> AgentCy: ok, try sudo modprobe prism2_pci
[06:48] <Edgan> wastrel: I know it is upstream. I am not sure they took it out. It may be a bug. Going to diff 2.14 vs. 2.16
[06:48] <pppoe_dude> AgentCy, oh i c.
[06:48] <AgentCy> k skel, no output either
[06:48] <bitsweat> hey folks - looking for an apt source for linux-restricted-modules having amd64 nvidia 9626 drivers.  all the repos I've come across (most notably Amaranth's) are down.
[06:48] <skel> AgentCy: that means the driver loaded, not remove and re-insert the card
[06:49] <skel> AgentCy: err.. *now remove
[06:49] <Amaranth> bitsweat: Mine is not down
[06:49] <Amaranth> bitsweat: It just doesn't have amd64
[06:49] <bitsweat> Amaranth:  ah, right-o!
[06:49] <AgentCy> oh hey
[06:49] <Amaranth> !nvidiabeta
[06:49] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[06:49] <AgentCy> something different
[06:49] <AgentCy> well wait.. nm.. grr
[06:49] <bitsweat> Amaranth:  beauty. thank you.
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: do you have wireless-tools installed too?
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: you'll need those
[06:50] <bitsweat> The on-the-fly twinview whet my appetite :)
[06:50] <AgentCy> skel, yes
[06:50] <skel> AgentCy: does iwconfig show any devices now?
[06:50] <vidd> I am still having issues with bcm43xx.....followed the instructions on the forums (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom)....Now my LAN dont work either after reboot
[06:51] <AgentCy> i found this interesting... this is out from sudo lshw -businfo .... (note the businfo is missing from WBM-120 Wireless).. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29007/
[06:51] <AgentCy> still nothing with iwconfig :(
[06:52] <hap0> This is really freaking crazy... Why does my desktop resolution default to 1024x768 with only one option for 800x600 when my xorg.conf file has five options starting at 1600x1200??? (nvidia 6200 128MB)???
[06:52] <Edgan> wastrel: hmm, the diff is 12mb. They changed a lot.
[06:52] <wastrel> heh
[06:52] <vidd> can someone at least help me to get my LAN back up?
[06:52] <skel> AgentCy: I think the bus info will be that of the cardbus controller
[06:53] <AgentCy> k
[06:53] <skel> AgentCy: what about ifconfig -a   does that show an additional interface?
[06:53] <Chaosmik> list
[06:53] <AgentCy> skel, shows eth0 (wired), lo, and sit0
[06:54] <skel> AgentCy: hmm =/'
[06:54] <Chaosmik> is this general ubuntu chat channel?
[06:54] <skel> AgentCy: its deprecated but you could try and install pcmcia-cs
[06:55] <skel> Chaosmik: aye
[06:55] <ianmacgregor> Chaosmik: yes
[06:55] <AgentCy> skel, could it be conflicting with previous drivers i may have installed in an attempt to get wireless to work? e.g. ndiswrapper
[06:55] <AgentCy> pcmcia-cs is already installed
[06:55] <skel> AgentCy: possibly. I don't know anything about ndiswrapper, if you don't need it, I'd remove it
[06:55] <vidd> can anyone help me get my LAN working again?
[06:55] <Chaosmik> is there anyway to easily change refresh rate from 60hz.... im running 6.06 dapper amd64, nvidia 6800
[06:56] <sydhart> hi all. does anyone know when/how xresprobe is invoked in the desktop/live CD boot process?
[06:56] <wastrel> vidd:  ethernet or wireless?
[06:56] <fnf> Chaosmik: Take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, under Monitor section
[06:56] <vidd> either
[06:56] <Chaosmik> ok tnks
[06:56] <wastrel> vidd:  what's wrong with your ethernet?
[06:57] <hap0> Once upon a time, if you misconfigured your XF86config file xserver wouldn't start and you knew the file needed to be edited, now you have no idea where the settings are coming from...
[06:57] <vidd> i updated to edgy, and the wifi broke
[06:57] <AgentCy> any other ideas pppoe_dude?
[06:57] <vidd> while trying to follow the instuctions on a link i was given; http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174&highlight=broadcom my wire line broke
[06:57] <Andruk> hello.  i just upgraded and i cannot get into a gui (gdm and beyond).  I get an x server error.  what can i do to improve my predicament?
[06:58] <Chaosmik> is amd64 6.10 released.
[06:58] <AgentCy> lol @ viagra pastebin
[06:58] <crimsun> Chaosmik: on Oct 26th
[06:58] <Chaosmik> any improvements to justify install?
[06:58] <hap0> The FAQ on Display Resolution just reiterated everything I already knew and tried...
[06:59] <wastrel> vidd:  have you tried to reconfigure your ethernet with  System > Administration > Networking  ?
[06:59] <HadesChief> hey everyone
[07:00] <vidd> yeah....says the wired is working with DHCP but i cant open a web page
[07:00] <fnf> Hi, I have asked this question before, but here again: Anyone successfully installed nvidia-glx in Dapper ?. This package depends on one of the older kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>), which would screw up my system (<IP_ADDRESS>) after installing.
[07:01] <HadesChief> i need to download basic developers' tools (with all deps), like gcc, gmake, glibc-devel, etc... to install them on a Ubuntu 6.06 workstation without internet access
[07:01] <hap0> fnf: Have you searched google for that question???
[07:01] <wastrel> vidd:  can you ping internet hosts?
[07:01] <HadesChief> how do I recover all deps without having a package manager and not knowing which packages are there in 6.06?
[07:02] <Lobster> apt-get install build-essential
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> How to forcibly quit a window?
[07:02] <fnf> hap0: I did, and I'm aware of the nvidia 3D driver blob, but it's shown to be unstable for me, and recently it has a security issue.
[07:02] <vidd> i cant even ping my router
[07:02] <cafuego> fnf: I had no problems with it; did you have security updates enabled?
[07:02] <crimsun> HadesChief: use apt-zip
[07:02] <Lobster> AlanHaggai cntrl+alt+esc and click in the window
[07:02] <AlanHaggai> ok Lobster
[07:02] <hap0> fnf: Have you seen all the step-by-step howto's regarding compiz? I would think your answer would have been clear as day. It was for me.
[07:03] <Byan> O_o
[07:03] <Byan> nickalert here
[07:03] <fnf> cafuego: You mean even you're running the latest kernel, installing nvidia=glx wouldn't cause it to be reverted back to the older one ?
[07:03] <Byan> I wonder how long ago that was
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> not working Lobster
[07:03] <AlanHaggai> Lobster : how is it done?
[07:04] <Lobster> its a shortcut for xkill
[07:04] <rbil> AlanHaggai: open a terminal, get the PID for the process and kill it
[07:04] <fnf> hap0: I know how to configure X server and compiled the custom nvidia driver, the fact is I have to install an older kernel just to be able to use nvidia-glx bothers me.
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> ok
[07:04] <AlReece45> Are there any special instructions for compiling alsa on ubuntu?
[07:04] <hap0> My problems started when I attempted to change to a higher resolution. For some reason my only options are 1024x768 & 640x480
[07:04] <cafuego> fnf: I was running 2.6.15-27-k7
[07:04] <rbil> AlanHaggai: what app you trying to kill?
[07:04] <phlaegel> anybody know if /etc/inittab is used anymore with 6.10?
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> gnokii
[07:04] <unixslut> ??
[07:04] <AlanHaggai> rbil : gnokii
[07:04] <wastrel> vidd:  have you disabled & reenabled the ethernet connection?
[07:04] <fnf> hap0: Did you take a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:04] <K`zan> Does indeed looks like ubuntu installer will not accept an extended partition...
[07:04] <vidd> yes
[07:05] <rbil> not familiar with that one, but anyways, open terminal and :  kill gnokii
[07:05] <kupesoft> I can't my mic working on my laptop with eft. Any suggestions?
[07:05] <rbil> if it was started by root, you'll need to: sudo kill gnokii
[07:05] <wastrel> vidd:  how about with ifup/ifdown  not network manager
[07:05] <K`zan> Anyway, thanks anyway folks, but I am not going to wiper the disk just to try ubuntu :-(.
[07:05] <hap0> fnf: Yes. Check out my options: "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "640x480"
[07:05] <AlanHaggai> rbil :bash: kill: gnokii: arguments must be process or job IDs
[07:06] <vidd> my cmdln is rusty
[07:06] <monokrome> wtf.
[07:06] <hap0> Yet, I'm stuck with 1024x768 for some reason...
[07:06] <kupesoft> I can't my mic working on my laptop with eft. Any suggestions??
[07:06] <rbil> AlanHaggai:  try killall gnokii
[07:06] <vidd> ifup eth0 down?
[07:06] <fnf> cafuego: What did apt-cache tell you about the dependency ?. Mine stays in 'pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/', hence it would complain if I didn't have the appropriate kernel installed. Any direction would be great.
[07:06] <AlanHaggai> ok rbil
[07:06] <wastrel> vidd:  sudo ifdown eth0  (assuming your card is eth0)
[07:06] <wastrel> vidd:  then sudo ifup
[07:06] <rbil> AlanHaggai:  if that doesn't work get the PID # and kill that
[07:06] <kupesoft> I really need mic help
[07:06] <wastrel> er, ifup eth0
[07:07] <monokrome> Any ever seen the LED on a broadcom device blink?
[07:07] <cafuego> fnf: Sorry, I switched to Edgy last night :-?
[07:07] <fnf> hap0: How about the Monitor section ? Perhaps your vert and horz refresh rate aren't corrently written.
[07:07] <rbil> AlanHaggai: use top or ps ax to get the PID # to kill of that process
[07:07] <cafuego> ah hold on
[07:07] <AlanHaggai> How to get PID?
[07:07] <AlanHaggai> ok rbil
[07:07] <cafuego> `gin' is still on dapper.
[07:07] <DaGame> What's the program to see filesystem I/O like locked files?
[07:07] <wastrel> lsof
[07:08] <AlanHaggai> rbil :ok done :)
[07:08] <hap0> fnf: well I guess, but it's currently working fine at 60Hz... You'd think it could handle more with an Nvidia 6200 card???
[07:08] <Ingrix> So I am in need of a bit of help, if anyone knows anything about installing ndiswrapper
[07:08] <rbil> :-)
[07:08] <AlanHaggai> rbil : but can I know if there are any shortcuts keys like in windows Ctrl + Alt + Delete to do the same?
[07:08] <jdrake> Is there a way I can get nautilus to not list a drive mounted at /home/jdrake/Music?
[07:09] <jdrake> I just want it to act as if it were a regular folder
[07:09] <rbil> CTRL-ALT-ESC should bring up a kill pointer
[07:09] <cafuego> pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[07:09] <dark_light> how can i see my translations suggestions at rosetta? or the ones that was approved
[07:09] <johny5> I'm trying to download something and I get a "Browser cannot handle ed2k" or somethig like that.  I've followed the instrustions that I've found online and now when I choose "save link as", my download monitor just sticks on starting.  Is this a problem with that protocol, or did I set something up wrong?
[07:09] <irvin> is anyone using kubuntu? just one quick question -> can kpresenter open/edit powerpoint files?
[07:09] <fnf> hap0: Not terribly sure about it, but it's worth a try removing the lower resolutions in Screen section.
[07:09] <AlanHaggai> but not working for me rbil
[07:09] <witless> i just started to install nvidia-xconfig, and apt wanted to 61 xserver-xorg-* files and nvidia-glx... is this expected??
[07:10] <vidd> its still working
[07:10] <witless> i just started to install nvidia-xconfig, and apt wanted to *remove* 61 xserver-xorg-* files and nvidia-glx... is this expected??
[07:10] <rbil> u using Gnome desktop?
[07:10] <AlanHaggai> yes
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: Which is from the <IP_ADDRESS>-1 source package. (but that's fine).
[07:10] <fnf> cafuego: That's right, and attempting to install it on my <IP_ADDRESS> kernel would be dangerous.
[07:10] <rbil> I thought it was standard.
[07:10] <zaatar> i assume it's safe to ask edgy eft related questions now?
[07:10] <AlanHaggai> I see
[07:10] <hap0> fnf: Thanks but that was also the first thing I tried... It's acting like it is getting the settings from a whole different source file...
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: No, that's the RIGHT one
[07:10] <vidd> no DHCPDISCOVER on eth0
[07:10] <cafuego> fnf: it goes wityh the 2.6.15-27 kernel from dapper-security/main
[07:11] <vidd> or rather No DHCPOFFERS
[07:11] <fnf> cafuego: After that, I would have to choose between running an acient kernel with nvidia-glx or not at all.
[07:11] <Jfrench> Hello All, I need some help with Twinview - I cant seem to get Display on both Monitors. One monitor has a Lower Max res then the other, can this effect it?
[07:11] <AlanHaggai> please tell me of the e-mail clients available in Ubuntu other than Thunderbird and Evolution
[07:11] <fnf> cafuego: You've installed nvidia-glx ? If so, I think I'll have a shot at Edgy.
[07:12] <vidd> Do i need to thrash my system like a winbloze machine?
[07:12] <witless> why, when installing nvidia-xconfig, does apt want to remove 61 xserver-xorg-* packages?
[07:12] <hap0> Oh well, I just finished downloading edgy so I guess I will give up on this install and try again... If I run into the same on Edgy I'm getting an used Mac for a while.
[07:12] <fnf> hap0: It's out of my reach now, sorry as I'm running Ubuntu Dapper server, with only Xserver and icewm installed.
[07:12] <cafuego> fnf: On dapper. nvidia-glx 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-5 (dapper-security/restricted) with linux-image-2.6.15-27-k7 2.6.15-27.48 (dapper-security/main)
[07:13] <AlanHaggai> please tell me of the e-mail clients available in Ubuntu other than Thunderbird and Evolution
[07:13] <hap0> fnf: Thanks a lot though. Much appreciate the time. All the best.
[07:13] <wastrel> vidd:  not sure- maybe try to configure it manually for the time being
[07:13] <sanmarcos> !lirc
[07:13] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[07:13] <sanmarcos> what happened to modules.conf in edgy?
[07:13] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  balsa, and sylpheed are 2  i'm sure there's many more
[07:13] <AlanHaggai> wastrel : me now using Edgy with XServer started :) Thanks :)
[07:14] <wastrel> AlanHaggai:  great :]
[07:14] <D_Wyatt> help my bootloader doesnt work
[07:14] <sanmarcos> !doesn't work
[07:14] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:14] <D_Wyatt> i think i installed grub wrong
[07:14] <fnf> cafuego: "sudo apt-get -s install nvidia-glx" din't tell you that you need to install another kernel ? It's really wierd.
[07:14] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: sylpheed is very fast, and works with GPG
[07:14] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : GPG? What is it?
[07:14] <witless> when installing nvidia-xconfig, apt wants to remove 61 xserver-xorg-* packages.  is this normal?
[07:14] <cafuego> fnf: Nope. You should check that your sources.list is up to date,a s well as run 'sudo apt-get update'.
[07:15] <vidd> well...im going to boot the live cd to to download edgy install disk....how do i save that image to the HD so i can burn it?
[07:15] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: Gnu Privacy Guard, a modern, free PGP (Pretty Good Privacy)...
[07:15] <AlanHaggai> Thanks Xenguy :)
[07:15] <D_Wyatt> when i start up grub loads up fine and displys fine but when i choose either winblows or ubuntu it says cannot read disk
[07:15] <hap0> Hey does 6.06 LTS not even come with a CD burner???
[07:15] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: basically public-key encryption (for file and email)
[07:15] <fnf> cafuego: I cron "apt-get update/upgrade" on a daily basis. It should have the latest patches.
[07:15] <AlanHaggai> will apt-get it :)
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : How is the interface?
[07:16] <cafuego> cron? /me cringes
[07:16] <fnf> cafuego: Thanks, guess I'll have to search and comeback in a while.
[07:16] <D_Wyatt> but ubuntu rescue works fine
[07:16] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: you'll need to read a lot to understand how email encryption works
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> I see
[07:16] <cafuego> fnf: The mirror you use is perhaps out of sync; also if you sue any non-official repos, disable them for a moment.
[07:16] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: command-line and GUI interfaces
[07:16] <progek> I noticed on ubuntu's shipit they are no longer offering free cds for edgy. Is this just because it's very new?
[07:16] <AlanHaggai> nice Xenguy
[07:17] <fnf> cafuego: Ahh no, I mean I did an update check very frequently, sorry for the miswording. :-p
[07:17] <Madpilot> progek, ShipIt is going to stick with Dapper CDs
[07:17] <cafuego> progek: They support Dapper, so that's what they'll ship.
[07:17] <Ingrix> Im having a bit of a problem installing ndiswrapper.  I am following the directions on the ndiswrapper wiki for ubuntu, but when I try to do a "make install" it gives me an error code of 2 and doesnt install
[07:17] <syock> what do i get by upgrading to 6.10?
[07:17] <wastrel> sylpheed has cli interface too?
[07:17] <KenThomson> Sory to interrupt:  I need help with some questions, can someone be kind enough to answer them? Shall i ask?
[07:17] <cafuego> syock: pain, suffering, maybe a marginally faster desktop.
[07:17] <Ingrix> And it gives me a long chain of implicitly defined functions
[07:17] <Ingrix> Such as sscanf
[07:17] <wastrel> oh you're talking about gpg
[07:17] <progek> I see, thanks.
[07:17] <Madpilot> KenThomson, just ask, don't ask to ask...
[07:17] <vidd> ingrx: use synaptic to download it
[07:18] <urz> I want to emulate teh mouse with my keyboard
[07:18] <urz> numlock doesnt seem to do it for me
[07:18] <Xenguy> wastrel: but sylpheed does interface nicely with GPG :-)
[07:18] <Ingrix> Hmm
[07:18] <winterweaver> Hey all ^.^
[07:18] <Ingrix> Well, see, this is again where the problem arises.  I am using ndiswrapper so that I can access the internet lol
[07:19] <newbuntie> what command do you use to burn a cd from .img or .iso (and which should i download, .iso or .img?)
[07:19] <progek> why does edgy not have long term support like dapper?
[07:19] <vidd> IC
[07:19] <urz> cdrecord
[07:19] <crimsun> progek: because we're not insane.
[07:19] <kruncher> hey, has anyone else had problems with azureus in edgy?
[07:19] <Xenguy> newbuntie: nice -19 growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom=____.iso
[07:19] <KenThomson> My questions are a lot context specific and wouldn't make much sense to type them out here (they are really long as you will see). So could some of you be kind enough and go over to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650, and read my whole post (it is really long) and maybe answer my questions?
[07:19] <stonarmusic> anyone know how to save Evolution calander date to an ipod nano?
[07:19] <KenThomson> Or should i type them here out?
[07:19] <Xenguy> newbuntie: to dvd
[07:19] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : does it have spam protection?
[07:19] <mervyn> Installed 6.06, upgraded from v5 - noticed that the menu items are fewer and do not have access to the update package?
[07:19] <newbuntie> to cd
[07:19] <highneko> Help please; http://rafb.net/paste/results/O6sqVn58.html
[07:20] <crimsun> progek: LTS releases are periodic and require substantial maintenance resources.
[07:20] <vidd> can you get the pc to connect via wire?
[07:20] <urz> please
[07:20] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I think not - but spamassassin would cover spam once properly set-up
[07:20] <moshe> does anyone know when/if the nvidia driver is going to be upgraded due to the security flaw?
[07:20] <newbuntie> so with cdrecord, should i download .img, .iso, or either one?
[07:20] <moshe> in edgy, I mean
[07:20] <urz> its an emergency.  my mouse is too far for me to reach
[07:20] <AlanHaggai> ok Xenguy
[07:20] <Xenguy> newbuntie: cdrecord I expect
[07:20] <progek> I see, so every six months they release a new LTS, but dapper is the official, supported distro>
[07:21] <progek> ?
[07:21] <sontek> stonarmusic: ~/.evolution/ ,  ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/ , and ~/.gnome2_private/Evolution  are the directories you need.  Not sure which one stores calendar info
[07:21] <urz> i used to use the keyboard on occasion to control the mouse cursor in debian.. why doesnt the trick work anymore?
[07:21] <crimsun> progek: no. Whenever a release is deemed stable and maintainable for an LTS moniker
[07:21] <newbuntie> xenguy: no, my question is...if I use cdrecord and I'm given an option to download either .img file or .iso file, which should I download, or does it not matter?
[07:21] <vidd> progek: no...every 6 months the make a STANDARD release
[07:21] <crimsun> progek: I wouldn't expect the next one to appear until, say, Feisty+2
[07:22] <stonarmusic> sontek - ok, thanks
[07:22] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I think thunderbird has an anti-spam function, but I don't know much about it as I don't use it ATM
[07:22] <KenThomson> One more time; did anyone go ove to my post? I REALLY need some help. Here it is again;" My questions are a lot context specific and wouldn't make much sense to type them out here (they are really long as you will see). So could some of you be kind enough and go over to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650, and read my whole post (it is really long) and maybe answer my questions?". Sorry for interrupting
[07:22] <Xenguy> newbuntie: .iso is better for burning I expect, if that is your question
[07:22] <newbuntie> xenguy thx
[07:23] <Xenguy> newbuntie: yw
[07:23] <Jaws> How can I set the link target for a file?
[07:23] <KenThomson> Xenguy: Why so?
[07:23] <urz> rm -f filename targetname
[07:23] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : I installed spamassassin
[07:23] <Xenguy> KenThomson: I thought he invented Unix, but I may be remembering incorrectly
[07:23] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : How to access it?
[07:23] <progek> I see, thanks a lot. I just upgraded. I have been using ubuntu since dapper first came out but a friend of mine has been trying to convince me to use fedora. I know fc6 just came out, I tried it but didn't like the package management system. Any advice versus using the two distros? I use my computer for C/C++, java, SDL application development along with hosting an apache web server.
[07:24] <Jaws> urz: Was that to me? doesnt rm remove the file?
[07:24] <bawnpa> ln -s target filename
[07:24] <gevaudan> I accidently removed my checkgmail tray notification icon thinking the divider was not a part of the icon...i've reinstalled but i still can't get it back...tried ps -e | grep checkgmail and it is in fact running...where does gnome store information concerning the panel and tray icons?
[07:24] <bawnpa> ln -s target source
[07:24] <gogeta> hi
[07:24] <gogeta> been turble shooting a pc with toasted ram
[07:24] <KenThomson> Xenguy: i could use some help, if you could take some time out and hope on over to my forum post
[07:24] <gogeta> rams been replaced
[07:24] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: read the documentation in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin, and man spamassassin -- google too if you need to... the documentation is out there :-)
[07:24] <gogeta> but its still siget 11
[07:24] <gogeta> he logs are not showing any memery problems  now
[07:25] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : Thanks for the nice help :)
[07:25] <rbil> KenThomson:  Q-1 checkout ... http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> !upgrade
[07:25] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[07:25] <KenThomson> rbil: Thank you for helping me, i am hoping-over to that link
[07:25] <rbil> KenThomson: Q2, not needed, Linux knows how to handle ram
[07:25] <gogeta> i tryed that upgrade on my problemd pc
[07:25] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I found I needed to setup the 'spam assassin learn' function (it uses Bayesian somethingorother to 'learn' spam email patterns :-)
[07:25] <gogeta> toasted the linux install
[07:25] <bawnpa> ln creates links, rm deletes files.
[07:26] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I admit it requires a fair amount of reading, but once it is setup, it just keeps working
[07:26] <rbil> KenThomson: Q4 start here: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz
[07:26] <anto9us> urz, did you notice your error there?
[07:26] <KenThomson> rbil: Linux knows but what about some other stubborn programs, or if i see a really long video in Google, most of it is cached and stores in the swap or RAM, so i need to clear it up, Don't you think so?
[07:26] <gogeta> well the guys a newb he probly didnt read something right
[07:26] <AlanHaggai> thanks Xenguy
[07:27] <jermsie> newbs get it tough
[07:27] <urz> anto9us: what error
[07:27] <rbil> no
[07:27] <crimsun> KenThomson: 1) PartitionMagic. 2) You wouldn't worry about free memory or "bloating". Linux handles memory just fine. As for startup manager, BUM. 3) Use the alternate (text-based) installer image to be safe. 4) http://tldp.org  5) You can netboot into a Ubuntu installer. 6) Experimental. See Beryl. 7) "Bad" is subjective. Try it, but it's unofficial and unsupported, so don't complain here. 8) EDS: no. Corel/CS2: perhaps The GIMP. Winamp: A
[07:27] <anto9us> urz, rm instead of ln
[07:27] <urz> oh
[07:28] <anto9us> urz, please take care, we have a lot of newbies here :)
[07:28] <bioticpro> anyone here use k9copy?  I have a problem with a dvd where it crashes when trying to copy it
[07:28] <gogeta> yes noobs
[07:28] <gogeta> noobs are fun
[07:29] <KenThomson> ok i am listening if you got something more to say
[07:29] <gogeta> but now i need some help
[07:29] <AlanHaggai> how to add a program to load at startup?
[07:29] <gogeta> im working on a pc with badram now replaced
[07:29] <rbil> KenThomson: believe me, coming from the Windoze world you'll be absolutely blown away about all the quality oss software available for Linux
[07:29] <jdrake> Any ideas for an app to organize and schedule (i.e. now and in future) school assignments?
[07:29] <crimsun> KenThomson: to me? I addressed them as succinctly as possible. :)
[07:29] <gogeta> it seems to till be giving single 11 at random
[07:30] <stylus> why is the channel so fuuuulll, did ubuntu just make a release or something?
[07:30] <gogeta> yea
[07:30] <gogeta> edgy
[07:30] <stylus> oh, 6.10?
[07:30] <rbil> stylus: it's always full of lurkers
[07:30] <wally4> hi all
[07:30] <stylus> rbil: obviously not this many.
[07:30] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : how to add a program to load at startup?
[07:30] <gogeta> none hear deal with a badram pc
[07:30] <rbil> usually more
[07:30] <gogeta> lol
[07:31] <KenThomson> crimsun: Thank you
[07:31] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: system > preferences > session  ?
[07:31] <KenThomson> rbil: Thank you
[07:31] <gogeta> i disable acpi and apic and it seem stable at the moment
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> thanks again Xenguy :)
[07:31] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: np
[07:31] <KenThomson> Still i dont get it about using which file-system for the Linux Partition
[07:31] <wally4> i can't get an environment variable to work, even though it is specified in the /etc/environment file
[07:31] <AlanHaggai> I am a newbie in Linux
[07:31] <rbil> KenThomson: you're welcome. one step at a time. believe me you'll learn to appreciate using a real operating system
[07:31] <gogeta> ken what you mean
[07:32] <gogeta> you have a choice on witch fs you wanna use
[07:32] <Mugginsm> well, I threw out the included eclipse and java, and downloaded upstream versions from Sun and Eclipse, and now I have working eclipse on edgy amd64 :)
[07:32] <crimsun> KenThomson: you don't need to specify an fs type. Just leave it unpartitioned.
[07:32] <gogeta> riser or ex3 are most common
[07:32] <Mugginsm> and it's faaast
[07:32] <jermsie> *buts in* Ubuntu has frustrated me so much today.
[07:32] <crimsun> KenThomson: the installer will take care of initialising the fs "type."
[07:32] <Xenguy> wally4: better to use ~/.bash_profile for environmental variables
[07:32] <gogeta> ubuntu will default to ext3
[07:32] <jcvasquezt> hello everyone
[07:33] <vidd> YEAH...i got my wire LAN back up
[07:33] <KenThomson> gogeta: I was referring to my question on the forum. If you are interested to help, see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=287650
[07:34] <vidd> now can someone help with BCM43xx?
[07:34] <KenThomson> crimsun: But dont i need to select it from a whole list of fs, that ubuntu installer provides? I was looking for some answer like, X fs, is the most effecient (performance wise), and use Y fs, if you want it to be seen by windows too, something like that
[07:35] <vidd> windows will never see linux
[07:35] <newbuntie> is there a gui version of cdrecord (or another gui program that can burn an .iso image?)
[07:35] <charle97> the fs you use is really a personal preference
[07:35] <Madpilot> KenThomson, to answer your question #2 - Linux is far, far better at RAM management than Windows; no need for extra apps just for something like that.
[07:35] <E[m] ess> hi, im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?
[07:36] <crimsun> KenThomson: if you're not sure, choosing the installer-provided default for fs type is a safe general case. There is no "best fs" in general; it's all application and use case-dependent.
[07:36] <E[m] ess> newbuntie: k3b
[07:36] <rbil> KenThomson: when Ubuntu installs it'll take care of it. ext3 for / and a swap partition will be created automatically. Windows partition will be resized. Or you can use that utility (bootable cd) to first resize what you want. Just leave empty space on hd for Ubuntu to use
[07:37] <Xenguy> KenThomson: if you like black magic, you'll love linux :-)
[07:37] <Madpilot> KenThomson, the installer's default is EXT3, which is fine - there's even an EXT3 driver available for XP
[07:37] <rbil> KenThomson: and forget about lettered drives like C, D, etc. Linux doesn't use that silliness. All drives will be mounted under your main file structure in Linux.
[07:38] <jcvasquezt> i need some help with permissions in ubuntu...
[07:38] <wally4> Xenguy: I can't get ~/.bash_profile working either..
[07:38] <whishup> I'm trying to find information about the UUID fstab that I now see in Edgy, I'm trying to mount a new drive through the shell and am unsure what to do.
[07:38] <Xenguy> wally4: break down the steps of what you are trying to do
[07:38] <KenThomson> gogeta: When i send a PM to you, I get a message like Private Messages for unregistered users are block due to spammers...so are you getting back my PMs or not?
[07:38] <Xenguy> wally4: like what EV, what commands, etc.
[07:38] <KenThomson> Xenguy: what is black magic?
[07:39] <Madpilot> KenThomson, you need to register with FreeNode to be able to PM
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell KenThomson about register
[07:39] <wally4> Xenguy: export LM_LICENSE_FILE = "/blah/blah/license.dat"
[07:39] <Xenguy> KenThomson: well, for example, their are 'daemons' running around your linux box right now =)
[07:39] <vidd> LOL
[07:39] <KenThomson> Madpilot: So i can read EXT3 in Windows XP? does it mean that i can install programs (.exe) from Windows on a EXT3 partition and still use them to run in Windows, without any performace loss
[07:39] <KenThomson> MAdpilot: Whats the name of that driver, please?
[07:40] <Madpilot> KenThomson, I doubt it, about the install part. And ask Google about EXT3 drivers for XP - I no longer run Windows at all
[07:40] <rbil> KenThomson: I wouldn't even if it was possible
[07:40] <vidd> but those deamons are no wher near as bad as the ghosts, spirits and devils in the standard windows mnachine
[07:40] <KenThomson> rbil: So do i have a choice in which directory or logical drive or folder (i dont know what to call it in Linux), i install new programs from ubuntu?
[07:40] <jcvasquezt> i have an external drive, it is already mounted but i don't have writing permission on it, when i try do modify the permissions using chmod it says "Read- only file system"
[07:41] <rbil> KenThomson: not usually, it puts them automatically where they should be
[07:41] <charle97> kenthomson, create a special fat32 partition so that you can share files between ubuntu and windows
[07:41] <KenThomson> vidd and Xenguy: Thanks for telling me my Linux Box can be haunted ;-)
[07:41] <wally4> Xenguy: which works fine from the prompt, but adding it to the end of bash_profile doesn't do anything..it gets called whenever i start a new terminal session right?
[07:41] <jcvasquezt> the same happens when i try to copy or erase a file in that disk
[07:42] <rbil> KenThomson: it's application installation is way ahead of anything Windoze offers, it's like comparing Photoshop to an Etch-A-Sketch
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: OK, try this...
[07:42] <vidd> no...not haunted....that is your windows box
[07:42] <xarq> I have windows installed on hda1, and ubuntu installed on another hard drive(hdc1).  is it possible for grub to boot windows?
[07:42] <Schalken> where can i get the md5 for the edgy iso?
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: try putting 2 lines (customized according to your specific needs)...
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: MAIL="/var/spool/mail/$USER" export MAIL
[07:42] <Madpilot> KenThomson, Linux doesn't use the Program Files method Windows does; instead apps get installed whereever they need to be, and tracked by the OS
[07:42] <Xenguy> wally4: oops
[07:42] <Madpilot> Schalken, same place you got the ISO
[07:42] <KenThomson> Is creating a fat32 partition the only way to make programs installed on that partition to be seen and run in Windows too? Or would ext3 work fine?
[07:42] <temple_kid> hello everyone! :-)
[07:43] <deep__> xarq, yes it is :)
[07:43] <Xenguy> wally4: the 2nd line is export MAIL
[07:43] <temple_kid> i am having some trouble connecting to a cifs share that i have created on my ubuntu pc.
[07:43] <KenThomson> Madpilot: So  i dont need to worry about one of my logical drive being "full", will Linux automatically install a program to another drive if one of my logical drive becomes full?
[07:43] <vidd> you cant run linux programs on winbloze
[07:43] <temple_kid> can someone help me?
[07:43] <Xenguy> wally4: you may need to logout and log back in
[07:43] <jdrake> I am on launchpad to report a bug, how do I attach the file the bug reporter asks me to attach?
[07:43] <rbil> KenThompson: keep your Windoze apps separate and away form Linux. Linux will be able to read/write to a FAT32 drive, which is where you can store data, like MP3s, etc.
[07:43] <Xenguy> KenThomson: I love Hallowe'en :-)
[07:44] <vidd> the fat 32 is so you can share files....like that report you have to rite
[07:44] <Madpilot> KenThomson, I doubt it, but if you arrange your Linux root (/) to be large enough, you won't have many space issues - 10Gb should be fine
[07:44] <monkey13> How in the hell do I get WPA2 auth for my wireless to work?   Help Please...
[07:44] <temple_kid> a little cifs help anyone?
[07:44] <xarq> deep__: for some reason, grub couldn't find the drive when I tried (hd1,1) or (hd2,1) etc.  is this bad?
[07:44] <KenThomson> I know that i cant run Windows program on Linux or the other way. What i am telling is that, i want to make a shared partition such that both Windows and Linux Program can be installed there + my work files, so that in the respective OS, the respective programs can be run, while the data can be shared
 i messaged all your answers
[07:45] <Schalken> Madpilot: okay found it didnt know i had to go into "other installation options"
[07:45] <KenThomson> gogeta: Thank you, <how do we make a kissing smily?> ;)
[07:45] <E[m] ess> nobody uses beryl and aiglx in here?
[07:45] <rbil> KenThompson: you cannot install Linux applications on a FAT32 drive. It won't be able to handle the permissions required
[07:45] <zman3> i need some help on a few things if anyones got a momment 1) how can i tell what kernal im using?
[07:45] <jcvasquezt> hi all, I'm having problems with permissions in my external hard drive, it says that is Read- only file system.... can someone help me?
[07:45] <gogeta> when you resize windows ubuntu will auto set up for booting both oses
[07:45] <Madpilot> E[m] ess, #ubuntu-xgl
[07:45] <E[m] ess> thanks :)
[07:45] <deep__> xarq, to be honest, i dont know. :/
[07:45] <KenThomson> rbil: So than what type of partition should i use for my aforementioned requirement?
[07:46] <deep__> xarq, but i am sure you can boot into windows, if you know where windows is.
[07:46] <rbil> KenThomson: don't worry about, the installation will take care of what you need in terms of Linux requirements.
[07:46] <gogeta> yes just dont slect use entire drive lol
[07:46] <rbil> KenThomson: for Windoze requirements you know what you need and that is no concern of Linux.
[07:46] <deep__> xarq, it isnt harder then selecting that partition as root, it will do the rest by itself
[07:46] <Geoffrey2> KenThomson, best bet is to install Windows on one partition, Linux a second, then create a third you save all your data files too...THAT partition can be either FAT32 or ext3....doesn't matter which
[07:47] <Madpilot> KenThomson, assuming you'll be dual-booting XP & Ubuntu, you'll need one NTFS partition (XP & it's apps), one FAT32 partition (for sharing *data* between the two) and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home
[07:47] <vidd> jcvasquezt: set chmod -R to the desired permission level using sudo
[07:47] <mythtv> How do I tell gnome to let me move windows above the top pane?
[07:47] <xarq> deep__: ok, I think I've found the right settings on google.  thanks!
[07:47] <monkey13> E[m] ess:  I just joined in, I use beryl and aiglx.
[07:47] <gogeta> i assume ken aruldy has xp installed
[07:47] <Xenguy> mythtv: alt-mouse  ?
[07:47] <gogeta> so gpartations only need to resize it
[07:47] <temple_kid> any samba users here?
[07:47] <E[m] ess> monkey13: im getting an error that composite manager crashed twice in a minute and has been clsoed for teh session whenever i switch my WM from kwin to beryl. in beryl, all the window borders disappear and minimised windows show up, and i cant move any of them or use beryl effects, any ideas?
[07:48] <gogeta> witch if i rember can do safly now
[07:48] <KenThomson> Madpilot, geoffrey2, rbil Thank you
[07:48] <rbil> you're welcome. goog luck and welcome to Ubuntu Linux
[07:48] <mythtv> Xenguy:  I mean like how beryl has a setting in gconf-editor that lets you move the window above the top panel.  Doesn't just plain gnome have something similar?
[07:48] <wally4> Xenguy: yes i've already tried it as two lines, no luck
[07:48] <vidd> temple_kid: i use it
[07:48] <Xenguy> mythtv: dunno
[07:48] <temple_kid> vidd: i am having some trouble with it.
[07:49] <Werdna> ~tell me about WLAN
[07:49] <Werdna> !WLAN
[07:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about WLAN - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:49] <vidd> temple_kid:: what issue you having?
[07:49] <Werdna> ><
[07:49] <zman3> i need some help on a few things if anyones got a momment 1) how can i tell what kernal im using? and what kernal i need for a dual core amd to run xgl
[07:49] <temple_kid> when i am trying to access my cifs share drive (that i created using samba). it is asking for a username and password.
[07:49] <jcvasquezt> vidd, what do you mean using sudo?
[07:49] <Xenguy> wally4: you'll have to go/explain step-by-step, I guess, until an error presents itself -- unless you are stubborn enough to fix it yourself
[07:49] <KenThomson> So in my 40GB HDD, 10GB (NTFS) is for Windows XP + it's apps, 10GB (ext3) is for Linux + it's apps, 20GB (fat32 or what?, should NTFS or ext3 work here?) is for data sharring like mp3s, video, files.
[07:49] <Werdna> what's the factoid for WLAN?
[07:49] <urz> zman3: uname -a
[07:50] <temple_kid> i am entering my username and password on ubuntu pc (which is where i have setup the samba share)
[07:50] <temple_kid> and it doesn't seem to work.
[07:50] <ria> kann man auf deutsch schreiben?
[07:50] <rbil> KenThomson: use FAT32 to share data between the 2 os's
[07:50] <Xenguy> wally4: I meant to add a smiley :-)
 is windows currently installed?
[07:50] <snoops> blah fat32 is crap
[07:50] <zman3> ok im using i686 is that ok for amd dual core?
[07:50] <KenThomson> Now just as i am digesting this; Madpilot says this "and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home". So i need 2 partitions of Ubuntu specifically? Cant it manage on a single Partition?
[07:51] <snoops> use the windows ext3 driver from fs-driver.org to share between linux and windows
 in comand line, cd to your drive
[07:51] <Xenguy> snoops: yeah, it's only useful for sharing writeable data =)
[07:51] <Madpilot> KenThomson, it can, but two is better
[07:51] <KenThomson> gogeta: This is being typed from Windows XP pro
 many users use diffrent setups
[07:51] <wally4> ~/.bash_profile I add two lines to the bottom of the file
[07:51] <newbuntie> what software do I use to create some kind of a backup procedure?
 then type sudo chmod -R  then set the desired permissions
[07:51] <rbil> KenThompson, one can setup more than 2 ext3 partitions. everyone has an opinion. go with the default install.
[07:51] <wally4> LM_LICENSE_FILE = "~/Desktop/modeltech/license.dat"
[07:51] <kazaru> hello any one here know how to solve the "hw_random: RNG not detected" error during boot?
 ok then when you slect manul partationg from the installer your going to see ntfs
[07:51] <wally4> export LM_LICENSE_FILE
[07:51] <crimsun> kazaru: that's not an error.
that is windows
 can you help me understand where i am going wrong with my samba share?
[07:52] <KenThomson> gogeata: ok....
[07:52] <wally4> shouldn't that get executed every time I start a terminal session?
[07:52] <rbil> gogeta: too complicated. let him get his feet wet and he can reshuffle things around later if he wants to
[07:52] <kazaru> what is it crimsun
 the command "sudo" means "do as su [blank]  (AKA root)
[07:52] <crimsun> kazaru: it's an informational message, aka warning.
[07:52] <gogeta> rbil he whants to run both oses
[07:52] <gogeta> hes gona need to resize
 i will try
[07:53] <rbil> I know, but he certainly doesn't need 2 ext3 partitions
[07:53] <highneko> Help please; http://rafb.net/paste/results/O6sqVn58.html
 what is (or is not) happening
[07:53] <xipietotec> I have a file owned by root in the trash bin that I can't delete from trash...and It won't see it in the command line because it's a hidden file
[07:53] <gogeta> i did say he did
[07:53] <gogeta> i didnt
[07:53] <Xenguy> wally4: remove the spaces, and hardcode /home/$USER instead of ~
[07:53] <any> hello everybody
[07:53] <Xenguy> wally4: that's about all I can suggest; everything else looks correct to me
[07:53] <rbil> I thought you suggested / /home swap, but maybe it was someone else. sorry
 when i enter my username/password of my ubuntu login, it basically tells me its an invalid combination.
[07:53] <jcvasquezt> vidd, as root i type: root@juancamilo:/media# chmod u+w Outsider2
[07:53] <jcvasquezt> chmod: changing permissions of `Outsider2': Read-only file system
 your gonna wanna resize windows you dont need to give linux all the space maybe 10 gigd or so and leave the rest to windows
[07:54] <newbuntie> what software do I use to do backups? for example how do I do regular backups to another harddrive
 i don't know what other username/password it could be looking for.
[07:54] <Xenguy> wally4: you could try some simpler EV tests to see if it even works in principle too
[07:54] <Cam-> hi, im just about to try out 6.10.. im running a AMD 64 X2 Dual Core 4200, should i run the AMD64 version or the i386 version. is performance increased? are their just as many 64bit packages as i386?
[07:54] <rbil> newbuntie: you can look at a prog called rdiff-backup
[07:54] <Xenguy> wally4: like PATH or some such
 then you make a linux partation from the unallacted space ext3 i guess leave a bit left for swap
 when you set up your samba share, you were required to give it a user name and password.....that is what it wants
 between 512 and 1 gig for swap depending on how mutch ram you have left
[07:55] <KenThomson> gogeta: You PMed me to say that Linux 6.10 supports 3d desktop out of the box, but i need to install nvidia drivers for it ( i have nvidia fx 5200 - 128MB - Graphics Card), But you aslo said that Ubuntu installs nvidia drivers by default.
 or are you trying to log in to your machine remotely?
[07:55] <xipietotec> I have a file owned by root in the trash bin that I can't delete from trash...and It won't see it in the command line because it's a hidden file
[07:55] <jack|ass> Is flash broken on Firefox in Edgy?
[07:55] <xipietotec> how do I delete it from command line?
 the fx serisesupports 2d out of the box
[07:55] <Xenguy> xipietotec: ls -a  ?
[07:56] <Xenguy> xipietotec: should show hidden files
 however for 3d you will need to install the nivida drivers
[07:56] <KenThomson> gogeta: So do i have 3d Desktop out of the box, or do i need to get some EXTRA drivers for 3D? Where do i get the 3D drivers from?
[07:56] <snoops> Cam- I've tried the amd64 and i386 of 6.06 and really, the amd64 is brilliant if you want to do server stuff..but I had problems with it with some applications, and some older apps didn'thave 64bit support at all..for a server I'd go with 64bit in a second.. for a desktop..not quite yet
[07:56] <xipietotec> I'm trying rm -rf and it doesn't delete it
[07:56] <Xenguy> xipietotec: 'rm' to delete
 i didn't see where i could enter the username and password. i setup via System>Administration>Shared Folders and I saw no option for a username/password combo.
 the easest way would to enable the unvers from apt and simple install them
[07:56] <Cam-> Cheers snoops.
 let me look at it right quick
[07:57] <urz> xipietotec: ls -a shows hidden files
 thanks vidd really appreciate your help!
[07:57] <xipietotec> w00t...finally, figured out what I was doing wrong...
[07:57] <Xenguy> xipietotec: what?
[07:58] <xipietotec> Xenguy: the file was named .trash (in lower case) so I was real afraid of deleting .Trash so I was attempting to direct rm -rf to it, and it didn't like that really
[07:58] <snoops> Cam- oh one thing though, with the i386 edition, I had to install the -smp enabled kernel for it to notice my dual core processor
[07:58] <whishup> How do I find out where my new IDE drive is? I've already formatted it to etx3 but when I try to mount it (/dev/hdc/) it says it cant find it.
 do you have the sare folder as read only?
[07:58] <Xenguy> xipietotec: ic
[07:58] <Cam-> i heard there was significant improvement on the ntfs module that enables write?
 no.
[07:59] <Cam-> its been a while since ive touched linux, last time i remembered write was extremely dodgy and caused fs corruption
[07:59] <xipietotec> the linux version of Freespace 2 is a maze to install
 how are you trying to access this folder?
[07:59] <Cam-> cheers snoops, ill do that
[07:59] <xipietotec> I can't even make sense of it
[07:59] <Cam-> doesnt detect the dual core on install and auto install smp?
[07:59] <rbil> whishup: what does sudo fdisk -l tell you?
[07:59] <whishup> rbil: checking
 the cifs share is setup on my ubuntu box and i am trying to access it via MAC OS X.
 thers 2 sets of drivers opensource with on the fx cards only supports 2d
[08:00] <nevermind> buenas noches :)
[08:00] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc1               1       38913   312568641   83  Linux
 Mac OS X supports cifs shares
 the second are from nivida themselfs witch supports 3d
[08:00] <nevermind> sry, wrong language :P
 by default ubuntu only includs the opensource
[08:00] <whishup> rbil: I missed the 1!
[08:01] <nevermind> i'm having a problem with the optin "blanktime" in xorg, anyone has an idea of it?
[08:01] <whishup> I think its mounted, checking
 it does seem to work as it picks up my ubuntu box and also the share name. just doesn't like the username/password combo
[08:01] <rbil> :-)
[08:01] <snoops> Cam- it didn't for 6.06 dapper, hopefully it does auto install the smp one for edgy
[08:02] <KenThomson> gogeta: So i go to Nvidia's website, download the "offical drivers", install them somehow ( i dont know how i am going to manage all this on Linux), and than i shall have 3d desktop, right?
[08:02] <whishup> rbil: Yep! Free Space: 278.3 GB
[08:02] <basilf> How do I get root access in a file manager use to just login as root to make changes sudo su and command lines are a pain can anyone tell me how to get file manager run under root with less than 10 commands to get to it
[08:02] <whishup> Now to get it into fstab =)
[08:02] <rbil> nice size
[08:02] <Mugginsm> edgy picked up my dual-core Athlon64 just fine
 diont even need tro do that
[08:02] <whishup> Thanks, preparing to clear out a windows box with 6 drives (Collecting the data to one drive)
do you have the permissions of the folder set so ALL are able to read/Write/Exicute?
 you enable all the sources in ubuntu then simply apt-get install nivida-glx
[08:02] <os2mac> anyone wifi smart?
 thers a guide
 showing all the ways tro do it
[08:03] <eigenlambda> i just upgraded to edgy
 its abought 3 commands and your done
[08:03] <eigenlambda> and gnome crashes on startup now
[08:04] <eigenlambda> so does failsafe gnome.  i'm here in the failsafe terminal.
[08:04] <whishup> rbil: When I browse it through nataulis I can't create a folder or file (Right clicking)
 same thing happonds to my frend trying to update
 yes i have all the permissions. its my home directory on ubuntu by the way.
[08:05] <rbil> whishup how does fstab list it?
[08:05] <eigenlambda> gogeta: swell.
 i did it from cd
[08:05] <jcvasquezt> vidd, i'm sorry, it's not working yet.
 try passing init 3 so x doesent start
 and reconferging it
[08:05] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc        /media/320gb    auto    0       0
[08:05] <sami> anyone using edgy with openbox? what commands i should put to autostart.sh script.. i want openbox with some basic gnome operations.. like powersaving etc
[08:05] <whishup> rbil: Am I missing rw?
[08:05] <eigenlambda> reconfigure x... yeah, i've been doing that for a while
[08:06] <hap0> These bugs and glitches are getting kind of old...
[08:06] <KenThomson> gogeta: You were talking about a guide or 3-commands, i could appreciate if you could outline them or link to the guide for me. This is in reference to using 3d official nivida drivers for my fx 5200 graphics card
[08:06] <eigenlambda> apparently, the ati driver is completely wrong
[08:06] <jcvasquezt> vidd, i type sudo chmod -R u+w drive name, but i can't move files to that drive
 oh yes i knoe that bug
[08:06] <sontek> Whats the best way to go about compiling my own custom kernel but getting the .config from the ubuntu kernel so I can see all of its settings
[08:06] <eigenlambda> and, it crashes in some glx thing
[08:06] <hap0> I'm booted into Edgy, and it won't install because it says I haven't chosen a partition for the root file system...
[08:06] <eigenlambda> gogeta: what's the bug?
 manuly set the memery it will run
[08:07] <Lars> is there a faq on howto get the ubuntu.iso onto a usbpen and use it as an install"cd"
 i just paseed 80000 worked fine
[08:07] <eigenlambda> huh?
[08:07] <eigenlambda> no, it says wrong version
[08:07] <Parisi> gnite all
 did it forget to update the kernel
[08:07] <rbil> whishup: try this ... /dev/hdc1	/mnt/newdrive	ext3	defaults  0 0      .... whatever u want to call mount point and better under mnt than media as that is where removables typically get mounted
you need to cd to the drive...ie cd /media/hdc4/
[08:07] <eigenlambda> lol i don't even know
[08:08] <michae1> Does someone know how I can get a custom resolution to work with the nvidia-glx drivers?
[08:08] <babo> is there any .deb that will set up a chrooted mysql/apache setup ?
[08:08] <rbil> whishup: get the correct spaces in that line!
[08:08] <hap0> michael: Give it up, it won't work.
 where you using the download ati drivers?
[08:09] <vidd> jcvasquezt: THEN sudo chmod -R a+w
[08:09] <whishup> rbil: /dev/hdc1       /media/320gb    auto    defaults        0       0 (This is a temporary mount to move 250gbs of data)
[08:09] <hap0> Been there done that, and now I'm fussing with Edgy and it can't understand that '/' is the mount point for a root filesystem
[08:09] <vidd> jcvasquezt you want to set it as either (a)ll or (g)roup....
[08:09] <michae1> hap0: It works fine with the the default drivers
[08:09] <whishup> rbil: I missed ext3
[08:10] <rbil> whishup: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29016/
[08:10] <gogeta> ken hear is a automated driver installer
[08:10] <vidd> jcvasquezt because you as the main account are part of the SUPER USER group (like root is)
[08:10] <gogeta> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[08:10] <jcvasquezt> vidd, all is fine,
[08:10] <hap0> Yeah if your happy with two choices 1024x768 || 640x480 on a card that supports 1600x1200...  I've checked (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29016/) and did a mount -a but I still cant make a folder in it. I think maybe rebooting this might do the trick.
[08:12] <sexywexy18> hi
[08:12] <hap0> gogeta: Yeah Edgy, the release that can't figure out how to mount the root filesystem to '/'
[08:12] <eigenlambda> which is why it was so weird when it said that i had the wrong version of the 'ati' driver.
[08:12] <eigenlambda> that's free software and should be updated with x.
[08:12] <michae1> hap0: I can get 15+ resolutions to work with the defeault drivers and I can get a custom refreshrate when it doesnt have one that I want, but I cant get it to work with the nvidia drivers.
[08:12] <blobaugh> !seen will
[08:12] <ubotu> will is on IRC right now!
[08:12] <Sambrista> Hello everybody!! I've installed ubuntu edgy and my ttys doesn't show my language's special characters correctly. Can anyone tell me how to set it?
 humm oss drivers failing
[08:12] <blobaugh> ;seen will
[08:13] <rbil> whishup: reboot shouldn't be necessary  mount -a will reread the fstab
[08:13] <urz> heh
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i use alsa, wouldn't know.
[08:13] <whishup> rbil: ok
[08:13] <hap0> michael: Exactly my point.
 did you do upgrade or dist upgrade
[08:13] <urz> the great tragic romance of will and blobaugh
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i used the upgrade tool
[08:13] <DeadSouL> Is there any Chineese who can register me an QQ acount?
[08:13] <gogeta> dist then
[08:13] <vidd> urz they married or something? they act it
[08:13] <eigenlambda> i was all, gksudo 'update-manager -c'
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: I wonder if its simple permmissions?
[08:14] <gogeta> and thers a driver problem with x
[08:14] <hap0> michael: I was referring to the defaults following the nvidia-glx install.
[08:14] <rbil> yep
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: Thats what it is =)
[08:14] <rbil> on the mnt/...
[08:14] <whishup> rbil: yes, so I'll chown to nobody?
[08:14] <whishup> or.. lol wait
 i think maybe the updater skiped something
[08:14] <Werdna> hey, I'm having trouble with my WLAN adapter (Netgear WG121), which I previously got working using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 - and suddenly stopped working. wlan0 no longer appears as an option.
[08:14] <eigenlambda> well.  fglrx failed me... so i tried to fall back to ati, but it said that was the wrong version.
[08:14] <fnf> Anyone has an idea of what is the purpose of linux-server and linux-image-server in my Dapper server installation ?. Ubuntu seemed to have included it by default in <IP_ADDRESS>, but it's no loger necessary after upgrading 10 15.27.
[08:15] <dre_> hi, ive been looking into Edgy and FC6... is it easy to use the FC6 theme in Ubuntu? (is there a howto on this somewhere?)
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> vidd, is not working, this is what i get: juancamilo@juancamilo:/$ cd media/Outsider2
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$ sudo chmod -R a+w
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> Password:
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> chmod: missing operand after `a+w'
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
[08:15] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$
[08:15] <eigenlambda> gogeta: ok... but apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade don't show anythnig
 boot into init 3 you pass that in the boot loader then try running apt-get update ## apt-get dist-upgrade see if it does anything
[08:15] <temple_kid> any CIFS users here?
[08:15] <whishup> rbil: Is there something I should be doing other than chown'ing to nobody? Or should I chown it to whishup
[08:15] <hap0> dre_: I'd recommend FC6.
[08:15] <gogeta> @@
[08:15] <michae1> hap0: Well I can get the same 15+ resolutions with the nvidia drivers, except the custom refreshrate that worked with nv doesn't work with nvidia
[08:16] <rbil> whishup: why chown at all? give write permissions to all
[08:16] <vidd> jcvasquezt that usually means it completed without errors
[08:16] <eigenlambda> why would apt-get act any differently after a reboot and without starting x?
[08:16] <rbil> you want all users to be able to write to it, no?
[08:16] <vidd> jcvasquezt can you write to is now?
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: Ok, I am unsure how to go about that. I know, simple question
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: yes
[08:16] <rbil> man chmod
[08:16] <whishup> thx
[08:16] <hap0> michael: Congratulations. You must have lucked out. Are you using 6.06 or 6.10 edgy?
 you said your in recovery mode
[08:16] <eigenlambda> no
[08:16] <temple_kid> Can anyone please help me with a CIFS question?
[08:16] <eigenlambda> im in failsafe terminal
[08:16] <whishup> rbil: lol, got it =)
[08:17] <basilf> How do I get root access in a file manager use to just login as root to make changes sudo su and command lines are a pain can anyone tell me how to get file manager run under root with less than 10 commands to get to it
[08:17] <eigenlambda> because gnome crashes
[08:17] <michae1> hap0: 6.06.1
[08:17] <whishup> rbil: fstab made me forget 5 years of linux
[08:17] <eigenlambda> but failsafe terminal doesn't
[08:17] <eigenlambda> for some reason
 ok did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:17] <jcvasquezt> vidd, error while copying to "/media/Outsider2". you do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[08:17] <Ademan> eigenlambda: what happens when gnoem crashes?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:17] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - what's the question?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> well
[08:17] <eigenlambda> it loads up
[08:17] <eigenlambda> up until the panels show up
[08:17] <dre_> hap0: thanks, another thing I've been reading about is upstart in Edgy... is there a big difference between FC6 vs Edgy's boot time?
[08:17] <eigenlambda> doesn't show anything on them
[08:17] <Synner_> Problems compiling gnomba in Ubuntu Dapper Drake.. anyone care to help me with the Error?
[08:17] <hap0> michael: That's really great. That's exactly what I've got here and only have two options.  Im
[08:18] <eigenlambda> oh yeah, the icons show up on the desktop
[08:18] <vidd> jcvasquezt chown the drive to yourself then
[08:18] <urz> sudo file-manager-prog
[08:18] <whishup> rbil: Thank you for the help!, all is working.
 oh i thought you said x wasent loading
 i setup a cifs share on my ubuntu desktop using samba
[08:18] <eigenlambda> then, the screen goes white
[08:18] <rbil> fine, :-)
[08:18] <Ademan> dre_: right now it doesnt really make a difference because even though its using upstart, it still folows the old systemV boot routine
[08:18] <vidd> jcvasquezt sudo chown [input username here]
[08:18] <Synner_> Problems compiling gnomba in Ubuntu Dapper Drake.. anyone care to help me with the Error?
[08:18] <eigenlambda> and then it displays something that looks like a virtual console
[08:18] <Ademan> dre_: but i believe they're changing that in the next version
[08:18] <hap0> dre_: Well, not so much that would make a huge difference as long as FC6 works it's way ahead of this IMO.
 now i am trying to access it on my mac os x box and its asking me for a username/password
[08:18] <Ademan> eigenlambda: wierd wierd wierd
[08:18] <eigenlambda> but you can't use it, and it has some flickering white junk
[08:19] <eigenlambda> then, it goes back to gdm
 did you try reconfgured gdm
[08:19] <basilf> Thanks for nothing
 i don't know what username/password to give as i didn't setup one while setting up the cifs share.
[08:19] <Jaws> Anyone here know how to get flash 9 working on the 64bit version?  I've been trying for a while, but to no avail.  I've been trying to follow this although i cant get it to work
[08:19] <michae1> hap0: Well have you gone thru the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[08:19] <Thorpeh> war driving is illegal right ?
[08:19] <Jaws> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[08:19] <Thorpeh> in the us
[08:19] <rbil> Thorpeh: only if you're caught
 i tried using my ubuntu username/password and that doesn't seem to work.
[08:19] <vidd> rbil lol
[08:20] <Thorpeh> :)
[08:20] <Jaws> Thorpeh: Actually I dont think it is if they dont secure it
 hummmmm seems gnome itsself is failing
[08:20] <rbil> Thorpeh: like jaywalking
[08:20] <eigenlambda> ya
[08:20] <hap0> michael: yep, and I'm a linux certified pro on top of that, so config files are nothing to me.
[08:20] <eigenlambda> except
[08:20] <dre_> thanks for answering hap0 & Ademan
[08:20] <vidd> jcvasquezt any luck?
[08:20] <stonarmusic> trmple_kid - can you set it up again, this time with a user/pass that you know?
[08:21] <michae1> How I can get a custom resolution to work with the nvidia-glx drivers?
 have you tryed just reinstalling gnome
[08:21] <rbil> Thorpeh: you are only doing security checks and intend to tell victims, I mean open AP users, to secure their systems
[08:21] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - to be honest I've never shared from ubuntu to win/mac, only the other way around.
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> vidd,
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> juancamilo@juancamilo:/media/Outsider2$ sudo chown juancamilo
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> chown: missing operand after `juancamilo'
[08:21] <jcvasquezt> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[08:21] <Synner_> Anyone looking for some extra cash?  I could use the help and im willing to pay
 i have tried setting it up a few times, but it doesn't ask me for a username/password when i set it up.
[08:21] <hap0> I'm just burned out on this whole thing. I just thought I would try one more time before buying a used Mac. Looks like that's my next step at this point.
[08:21] <vidd> jcvasquezt man chown
[08:21] <eigenlambda> how do i do that?
[08:21] <dorto> any recommendation for a popular podcast aggregator tool for edgy? podracer, ipodder?
[08:22] <rbil> hap0: just think of the hassles of getting Ubuntu on a Mac
[08:22] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - are you using the command line?
[08:22] <Jaws> Anyone know a repository where I can get flashplugin-nonfree for x86_64?
[08:22] <hap0> I've given Ubuntu several tries over the last couple years, and I'm done.
[08:22] <eigenlambda> reinstall gnome?
 no i set it up via System>Administration>Shared Folders
[08:22] <crimsun> hap0: enjoy your mac, then.
[08:23] <hap0> rbil: Wrong. I've been using OSX at work and it just works.
[08:23] <Synner_> Anyone looking for some extra cash?  I could use the help and im willing to pay
[08:23] <rbil> hap0: yeh sure. works the way Apple wants it to work.
[08:23] <hap0> Thanks crimsun. I hope to see Linux come of age some day.
[08:23] <dorto> hap0: Mac should lose out to GNU/Linux at least in one area: number of applications supported
[08:23] <eigenlambda> are there any nice logs from gnome to look at?
[08:23] <mefistofeles> im looking for cash!
[08:23] <mefistofeles> :P
[08:23] <vidd> jcvasquezt sudo chown juancamilo *
[08:23] <Xenguy> hap0: just use whatever works, and whatever you are happy with
[08:24] <Synner_> mefisto: you good with Ubuntu?
[08:24] <vidd> jcvasquezt i thgink thats the right command
[08:24] <bef0rd> mefistofeles,
[08:24] <nevermind> lol
[08:24] <mefistofeles> Synner_, actually no :S
[08:24] <mefistofeles> too bad
[08:24] <dorto> I always come back to GNU/Linux from Mac for the simple reason that there are soooo many apps for GNU/Linux
[08:24] <hap0> I don't need 16 different ways to edit a config file, and besides, it already comes with vi and emacs so I can use which ever one I feel like at the time.
[08:24] <nevermind> Synner_: what is ti that you need?
[08:24] <michae1> hap0: Well Linux can really be hit or miss.
[08:24] <Xenguy> dorto: it's also about 'freedom' ultimately
[08:25] <rbil> hap0: /join osx ... have fun!
[08:25] <eigenlambda> so the error message in the /var/log/Xorg.log.0 is
 apt-get remove gnome
[08:25] <eigenlambda> er, xorg.log.whatever
[08:25] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - i'm not sure how to do it like that. i used to use the command line, something like this ' mount -t cifs //my/ubuntu/shared/folder/path username=whatever,password=whatever, \\win_or_mac/shared_folder'
[08:25] <Synner_> nevermind: compile problems with Gnomba..  basic questions.. apache2.. samba..  server questions.. security
[08:25] <eigenlambda> lol r u serious??
[08:25] <eigenlambda> k can't hurt
[08:25] <hap0> I'll make sure to use emacs to log back into irc from osx, log a bug report from www, and send an email to the list once i've got my late model g4.
[08:25] <eigenlambda> shouldn't that be --purge remove?
 its ok i will search the internet. i thought someone here might have a quick answer.
[08:25] <dorto> Xenguy, yeah, some people just are ready to use whatever is available for a platform. Some like me want to search for the tool that best fits my taste and then stick with it
 workd to
[08:25] <stonarmusic> temple_kid - sorry
 thanks for you help. really appreciate it!
[08:26] <anuvismh> http://radiocanal96.cl/radio/admin.php
[08:26] <dorto> GNU/Linux gives me the freedom to chose from many options
 then install it again
[08:26] <nevermind> Synner_: ui'm good with: basic questions, samba, some server things and aslo some security
[08:26] <eigenlambda> shoudn't it be --purge remove though?
 purge then
[08:26] <nevermind> but just ask, i'll tell you what i can
[08:26] <michae1> hap0: ...well Linux suffers from all the talented develepors more interested in features than usability
[08:26] <vidd> jcvasquezt sorry....but i have to rack out.... i got to go to work in 3 hours
[08:26] <Xenguy> dorto: I look to the long run, and I see free software is what I need :-)
[08:26] <mefistofeles> michae1, thats true
[08:26] <KenThomson> crimsun:  You can netboot into a Ubuntu installer. Does that mean that without a "burned cd" with Ubuntu 6.10, i still can install it? I have the 6.10 ISO on HDD. Can someone suggest me how to install 6.10 without burning a CD.  I dont have a writer
[08:27] <eigenlambda> Package gnome is not installed, so not removed
[08:27] <eigenlambda> (!!!)
[08:27] <eigenlambda> 'k.  installing gnome then.
 lol
[08:27] <rbil> Xenguy: and no nothing about writing docs for endusers
 i would say thats the problem
 lol
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> vidd, thanks anyway
[08:27] <eigenlambda> wait.  doesn't ubuntu-desktop depend on gnome?
[08:27] <Xenguy> rbil: that varies
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> vidd, it says: chown: changing ownership of `Videos': Read-only file system
[08:27] <jcvasquezt> to all the files
[08:27] <dorto> Xenguy, one example is Internet Explorer. Just because it already had the monopoly and it was non-free, the creators never bothered to improve it for 5 long years
[08:28] <eigenlambda> but ubutu-desktop is prefectly fine
 yes lol
[08:28] <rbil> Xenguy: yep from bad to worse, usually
 gnome is the windows manager
[08:28] <Xenguy> rbil: often documentation is quite good
[08:28] <jcvasquezt> vidd, but it does not work
[08:28] <wally4> Xenguy: if I do $source ~/.bash_profile ... then the export works..but if I just start a new terminal session then it doesn't work
 beingit wasent there well thats why it crashed
[08:28] <eigenlambda> gnome wants to install abiword and stuff.
[08:28] <KenThomson> Can someone tell me from where do i control the programs that automatically run at Startup (like in Windows you can use 'msconfig')
[08:28] <Xenguy> dorto: yeah, IE is a dog
[08:28] <rbil> Xenguy: on some other guy's blog
[08:28] <dorto> users lose out in the end
 yea let it its a entire packge
 you can remove them later if you dnt whant them
[08:29] <nevermind> KenThomson: in system/preferences/sessions
[08:29] <crimsun> KenThomson: you boot your computer over the network.
[08:29] <urz>  KenThomson, see /etc/rc.d/*
[08:29] <daywalker> Hey ----> i've im running dapper.I have 2 sessions at boot 1 is xgl, id like to updgrade to 6.1, do i need to get rid of compiz & install beryl??
[08:29] <vidd> jcvasquezt your going to need to ask around.....i really need to sleep....i came her cuzz my wifi didnt work after upgradeing to edgy
[08:29] <Xenguy> wally4: hrm, so ~/.bash_profile is not being sourced at login ?
[08:29] <KenThomson> crimsun: How do i boot my computer over the network?
[08:29] <hap0> michael: Yes, and that's kind of where I'm at right now, and I'd just like to stop losing time to all of it and move on to doing something more fun than what feels like a constant serious of being tripped over a forgotten connection between xorg.conf and the GUI, or the ability to simply mount '/' to hda2 like I had the last time without receiving the complaint that I have designated a freakin' root filesystem...
[08:29] <wally4> Xenguy: I guess not?
[08:29] <jcvasquezt> vidd. thanks a lot for the help
 well we all knoe the updater  forgets to install the window managers now lol
[08:30] <goon> I can't manage to compile beagle: "configure: error: missing the mono.pc file, usually found in the mono-devel package"
[08:30] <Xenguy> wally4: maybe you need to source ~/.bashrc from within ~/.bash_profile  ?
[08:30] <goon> and mono-devel is already installed
[08:30] <goon> could someone help me?
[08:30] <crimsun> KenThomson: via PXE. The Ubuntu wiki has some instructions.
[08:30] <daywalker> do i need to uninstall xgl before upgrading to edgy?
[08:30] <khaije1> hi, whats the prefered vnc server for ubuntu?
[08:30] <gogeta> day walker no
[08:31] <daywalker> kewl
[08:31] <gogeta> edgy has aiglx installed in xorg
[08:31] <eigenlambda> daywalker: potentially.  not doing that made my computer crash.
[08:31] <michae1> How do I force nvidia drivers to use a certain rrefreshrate?
[08:31] <rbil> khaije1: system ...preferences ... remote desktop?
[08:31] <gogeta> edgy does not need xgl
[08:31] <Xenguy> wally4: that's what my default ~/.bash_profile does, by default
[08:32] <hap0> I'll give it another try in a couple years, but until then this is it. I'm done.
[08:32] <Xenguy> wally4: it's 3 lines of shell script if you need it
[08:32] <hap0> gogeta: No, edgy needs to mount root.
[08:32] <gogeta> LOL!
[08:32] <gogeta> mine did fine
[08:32] <Jaws> Does anyone know of flash 9 works for the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[08:32] <gogeta> the installer said it nedded to
[08:32] <gogeta> i hit next
[08:32] <dorto> khaije1, vnc server comes with most of the GNOME desktops these days...you might be searching for a client
[08:32] <gogeta> it did
[08:32] <eigenlambda> ok.  seeing how well gnome failsafe works now...
[08:33] <hap0> I hit next and it complained that my designation of hda2 as '/' did not count.
[08:33] <gogeta> outch
[08:33] <poningru> hap0: dude you need atleast 2 gigs of / space
[08:33] <hap0> exactly
[08:33] <progek> I've been trying to get a friend to try ubuntu but he says ubuntu "stole" fedora cores theme and painted it brown without giving credit. This is his largest complaint about ubuntu and is a big fedora fan. My question is, is this true or his he crazy? If Ubuntu DID take fedoras style is there some credits page to shoot this argument out of the water?
[08:33] <hap0> How about 9? Is that enough!
[08:33] <gogeta> yea 2 gigs
[08:33] <gogeta> yea lol
[08:33] <poningru> progek: eh?
[08:34] <poningru> progek: I can say the same thing about fedora
[08:34] <MrObvious> Here's a simple question: Is there a way I can get a Ubuntu deb for firefox 2?
[08:34] <nevermind> MrObvious: nop
[08:34] <numist> poningru: yeah, it was my party in san diego last night
[08:34] <hap0> frickin 9 for '/' and 8 for /home. Is someone feeling my pain?
 isnt back aruldy it must have worked such a thankless job lol
[08:34] <nevermind> just donwnload the tar.gz, and extract it to /opt
[08:34] <MrObvious> nevermind: Serious? Should I DL it from firefox's site and then install it manually?
[08:34] <Xenguy> progek: that sounds quite unlikely
[08:34] <poningru> numist: yeah jesse said he went there
[08:34] <numist> you know jesse?
[08:34] <xipietotec> progek: I dunno....but um...I just changed the theme
[08:35] <progek> really? :D because his argument can get a little boring after a while but he always goes back to the same thing. How can we say the same thing about fedora?
[08:35] <poningru> numist: yeah ofcourse... I hang out in moznet
[08:35] <progek> haha yeah xipietotec
[08:35] <rbil> progek: actually fedora stold the theme from me
[08:35] <JoseStefan> MrObvious, packages.ubuntu.com ?
[08:35] <numist> poningru: ah didnt know.  he hangs out here, you know
[08:35] <nevermind> MrObvious: it's not in repositeries yet, if you want it now, you can just get it from getfirefox site
[08:35] <poningru> here?
[08:35] <hap0> I'm tired of this. I even tried to initiate an install via straight CLI, but guess what, that option isn't on this ISO, that's the "alternative" ISO.
[08:35] <Xenguy> progek: just ask him for a solid reference, that'll shut him up ;-)
[08:35] <xipietotec> I've seriously customized my desktop
[08:35] <michae1> hap0: I suppose the really dull tasks that need to be done to make a decent OS just get papered over when no one gets paid for the fortnights worth of work needed to deliver it...
[08:36] <yojimbo-san> I have a system where I think some library files have been damaged; is there an apt option that will check the files on disk against what's in the package itself?
[08:36] <progek> ha yeah, I did.. he just says.. "loook, look at the desktop, look at the panels.. blah blah"
[08:36] <sanmarcos> anybody else getting http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/source/Sources.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) ?
[08:36] <gogeta> hap0 you must have done something wrong relly
[08:36] <KenThomson> Madpilot: ....(for sharing *data* between the two) and two EXT3 partions for Ubuntu - one for root, one for home. Will i have to create those two partitions manually or will Ubuntu do it automatically? And dont i need a swap partition? Does that mean i need three ext3 partitions for Linux?
[08:36] <poningru> MrObvious: you can just upgrade to edgy
[08:36] <hap0> I guess, but then how do you explain Microsoft? Cuz that's what this reminds me of?
[08:36] <rbil> hap0: don't worry with OSX you're going to pay to get it down "right" :-) DRMA and all
[08:36] <Jaws> Anyone know anything about flash 9 on 64bit?
[08:36] <MrObvious> poningru: Edgy?
[08:36] <Xenguy> progek: it's all gnome, right?
[08:36] <sanmarcos> Jaws: you are pretty much fucked
[08:36] <dorto> I tried installing Ubuntu from LiveCD only once, since then it's always the alternate cd that I download
[08:36] <lnx^> hey people
[08:37] <sanmarcos> Jaws: no 64 bit, nobody uses 64bit
[08:37] <rbil> good night folks
[08:37] <lnx^> my swap partition stopped working after upgrading to edgy
[08:37] <khaije1> rbil: dorto i'm trying to forward vnc through an ssh x-forwarding session
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: edgy has firefox 2.0 already
[08:37] <progek> does all fedora distros use gnome?
[08:37] <gogeta> live cd worked for me
[08:37] <ph8> sanmarcos: what age are you living in?
[08:37] <MrObvious> poningru: I haven't been really trying to keep up with Linux very well. What's edgy?
[08:37] <lnx^> i get: swapon -a
[08:37] <lnx^> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/c1c6dbd4-0d36-44c3-877a-c937892c0d13: Invalid argument
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: you know ubuntu's stable
[08:37] <KenThomson> I again got confused. Can someone help. So in my 40GB HDD, 10GB (NTFS) is for Windows XP + it's apps, 10GB (ext3) is for Linux + it's apps, 20GB (fat32 or what?, should NTFS or ext3 work here?) is for data sharring like mp3s, video, files.
[08:37] <ph8> most decent new computers are 64 bit, or EMT64 at least
[08:37] <Madpilot> KenThomson, swap depends on how much RAM you've got; I've got 1Gb & no swap, don't really need it. You will need to lay out some partitions if you want seperate home
[08:37] <progek> I tried fc6 but was not very happy with the package management
[08:37] <poningru> MrObvious: uh check what channel you are in
[08:37] <Jaws> sanamrcos: Should I reformat to the 32bit then?
[08:37] <sanmarcos> progek: cheap apt copy
[08:37] <ph8> progek: you can always use kubuntu
[08:37] <ph8> Jaws: you can run flash9 in 32 bit mode?
[08:37] <rm_you_> errr... why isn't there a kde meta-package?
[08:37] <poningru> Jaws: unfortunately yes if you want flash etc. I would say yes
[08:37] <hap0> rbil: I'll have a heck of a lot easier time disabling that DRM crap at this point. At least it won't be Vista.
[08:37] <MrObvious> poningru: I know. Is that a version of Ubuntu that came out or something recently? Sorry I'm running on 4 hours of sleep.
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: there is its called kubuntu_desktop
[08:38] <ph8> presumably, although mine's never worked in firefox ever - as a 32 bit user
[08:38] <Jaws> sqnqmarcis: hmm alright
[08:38] <khaije1> rbil: dorto i usually just use the x-forwarding but i need to look at the window decorations so thats why i was thinking vnc
[08:38] <MukiEX> I have Ubuntu installed on a software raid hard drive setup, but for obvious reasons, Grub wouldn't install.
[08:38] <poningru> MrObvious: yep on 26th
 fat 32 couse windows will see it to
[08:38] <MrObvious> poningru: Edgy Is Released!! Oh ok. Read the topic lol.
[08:38] <rm_you_> poningru: I installed that in dapper (trying edgy now) and it changed a bunch of stuff i didnt want changed (like the boot-logo >_<)
[08:38] <MrObvious> !upgrade
[08:38] <Jaws> ph8: Well, I definetly cant get it to work in 64bit...
[08:38] <dorto> khaije1, you can read about FreeNX server
[08:38] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[08:38] <MukiEX> Are there any solutions for this?
[08:38] <progek> well I really like gnome, just wish he could give ubuntu a rest because I think it's a great distro. He convinced me to try out fc but I didn't really like it too much. I don't think their community is as large or helpful either.
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: you can change it all back
[08:38] <poningru> rm_you_: check the wiki
[08:38] <rm_you_> poningru: please god tell me how
 you cant wright to ntfs threw linux at this time
[08:39] <rm_you_> poningru: err ok
[08:39] <poningru> rm_you_: reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:39] <eigenlambda> nope
[08:39] <eigenlambda> didn't work
[08:39] <khaije1> dorto: i'm aware of it, but it takes some config doesn't it?
[08:39] <Jaws> ph8: Im not sure if i can run get a 32 bit firefox...  maybe ill try that good ide
 grumble
[08:39] <MukiEX> gogeta : at least not reliable ;)
[08:39] <Jaws> ph8:idea
[08:39] <MrObvious> poningru: Ok here it goes lol.
[08:39] <MukiEX> *reliably
[08:39] <poningru> nn
 what ti do now
[08:39] <eigenlambda> same thing as before
[08:39] <eigenlambda> gnome launches... then crashes
[08:39] <Xenguy> gogeta: what irc client are you running (if you don't mind me asking)
 this is why i dont trust dist upgrade
[08:39] <MrObvious> It tells me to run this command: gksu "update-manager -c" however it doesn't exist on my computer.
[08:39] <dorto> khaije1, FreeNX is not in the ubuntu repositories, you need to add a repository for it and then apt-get
[08:40] <MrObvious> paul@upstairs:~$ gksu "update-manager -c"
[08:40] <MrObvious> -bash: gksu: command not found
[08:40] <gogeta> xchat
[08:40] <eigenlambda> also: failsafe mode says something about not being able to launch the settings daemon
[08:40] <eigenlambda> and that i should look at the man page for dbus-launch
[08:40] <Xenguy> gogeta: OK, I asked becuase the nick quoting seems different from usual somehow
[08:40] <compengi> i downloaded ubuntu edgy and burned it on a cd how can i upgrade to edgy from the cd?
[08:40] <gogeta> eigenlambda that better lol
[08:40] <poningru> MrObvious:make sure you have your data backed up before you do that
[08:40] <AlanHaggai> Is there any software in Ubuntu to compress to RAR format?
[08:41] <poningru> MrObvious: you can also do gksudo
[08:41] <Ignatius> compengi: do not upgrade to somehting that's on alpha stage if you don't know what you are doing / how you do it
[08:41] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : Is there any software in Ubuntu to compress to RAR format?
[08:41] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: rar (command-line) IIRC
[08:41] <Ignatius> only trouble will cause.
[08:41] <poningru> Ignatius: it was released like 2 days ago
[08:41] <xipietotec> Ignatius: edgy isn't alpha though
[08:41] <MrObvious> poningru: I push gk(tab) and it completes it as gkrellm :|
[08:41] <poningru> did I just transported to like couple of months ago?
[08:41] <AlanHaggai> Xenguy : any GUI based?
[08:41] <gogeta> eigenlambda well i dont knoe if you have a /home partation i say get a cd and just reinstall
[08:42] <MrObvious> poningru: I don't think I have a package I need installed.
[08:42] <poningru> MrObvious: thats impossible
[08:42] <compengi> Ignatius, so you're saying that i should not upgrade to edgy?
[08:42] <xipietotec> although I've heard that alot of people who've upgraded from the CD have had lots of problems
[08:42] <poningru> MrObvious: you sure you are running ubuntu? dapper?
[08:42] <gogeta> eigenlambda yea and so have you lol
[08:42] <Xenguy> AlanHaggai: I don't use a gui for that function; try 'apt-cache search rar |less'
[08:42] <xipietotec> I upgraded using synaptic with no problems
[08:42] <MrObvious> poningru: I started KUbuntu and installed Ubuntu I think.
[08:43] <MrObvious> Or was that my other box?
[08:43] <MrObvious> :|
[08:43] <AlanHaggai> ok Xenguy :)
[08:43] <gogeta> eigenlambda i just reformated it installed
[08:43] <Chu> I have no way of burning cds, yet I need to use a live cd. I assume mounting it wouldn't work, correct?
[08:43] <poningru> I have to go to sleep... sorry guys
[08:43] <MrObvious> poningru: Nevertheless I'm installing gksu now via apt-get lol.
[08:43] <MrObvious> poningru: Thanks for the help. I think I'll get it eventually.
[08:43] <gogeta> eigenlambda i just dont reformat /home if you have one all your mp3s or whatever whont get lost just al the apps
[08:43] <henna> wow
[08:43] <jcvasquezt> hi all, i'm looking for some help. i'm unable to write in my external drive, it says read-only drive, and when i try to change the permissions it says: couldn't change the permissions of "drive" because it is on a read-only disk???? anyone???....thanks
[08:43] <xipietotec> Chu: It's possible to mount ISO and run them in virtualization using quemu or vmware
[08:44] <compengi> xipietotec, so what you recommend for me to do to get updraded to edgy
[08:44] <Chu> xipietotec: Jesus, that sounds messy. :'(
[08:44] <dorto> jcvasquezt, what is the file system on the external drive?
[08:44] <sanmarcos> anybody else is having problems with usplash not working in edgy?
[08:44] <xipietotec> Chu: I haven't tried it personally, but I have a guide somewhere....hold on
[08:44] <jcvasquezt> dorto, fat32
[08:44] <gogeta> eigenlambda thats why i dont trust dist-upgrade for changing version i just use a cd and kill anything from the old ver off
[08:44] <xipietotec> compengi: I personally reccomend doing it from synaptic if you want to upgrade
[08:45] <dorto> jcvasquezt, how does its entry look like in /etc/fstab?
[08:45] <Chu> xipietotec: Any information would be awesome, thanks.
[08:45] <compengi> xipietotec, how much is the size of the download?
[08:45] <YBH_1> Does anyone know how to setp postfix to use procmail when fetchmail is used in edgy 6.10? It worked fine in 6.06.
[08:45] <gogeta> i did it threw aprt and it still fryed the system
[08:45] <gogeta> apt
[08:46] <xipietotec> Chu: http://maconstuff.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-run-windows-xp-under-ubuntu.html It says XP, but the same should apply for ubuntu
[08:46] <dorto> Chu, QEmu is very easy to install and use, in my experience
[08:46] <gogeta> something in x just doesent get set right
[08:46] <xipietotec> compengi: Huge =)
[08:46] <compengi> xipietotec, omg
[08:46] <gogeta> eigenlambda have you tryed going out of ecovery mode init 3 and seeing if dbus is running