[12:18] <sivaji_> _4strO X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[12:18] <ina> _4strO: That is what I did
[12:19] <ina> _4strO: I want a custom Playerwindow.
[12:19] <_4strO> ina: what is the name of the skin you try to add ?
[12:20] <_4strO> ina: [12:03]  <ina> downloadded some and tell amarok to install them but still no changes
[12:20] <_4strO> hooo i think it didn't change the player view
[12:20] <_4strO> just the context view in amarok
[12:21] <ina> _4strO: I have some problems now because I don't know how to get my toolbar back
[12:21] <_4strO> lol
[12:21] <_4strO> ina right click near the volume
[12:21] <ina> _4strO: Thanks
[12:22] <_4strO> sivaji_: have you another operating system on your computer ?
[12:23] <_4strO> sivaji_: i mean windows :p
[12:23] <sivaji_> ya
[12:23] <ina> _4strO: I recognized my missunderstanding of context design.
[12:23] <sivaji_> but i cant use windows because virus prob
[12:24] <sivaji_> _4strO :
[12:25] <ina> _4strO: Is it possible to change the poup player window?
[12:26] <_4strO> ina: i dont know, i never try this :p
[12:28] <ina> _4strO: Is there a  Player where you can decide where to put the playlist and so on on linux?
[12:28] <ina> _4strO: Sorry i must go eating
[12:28] <r4ge> mp3 player?
[12:29] <_4strO> r4ge: the player view of amarok
[12:44] <sigbjorn> anyone know the official linuxmce channel? Tried to join #linuxmce but only 3 other people there so I suspect it is not the official one
[12:44] <Ash-Fox> linuxmce, what the heck is that?
[12:44] <sigbjorn> www.linuxmce.com
[12:44] <sigbjorn> mediasenter-addon to kubuntu
[12:45] <Ash-Fox> According to their site, you can contact them through forums, e-mail and mailing lists
[12:47] <sigbjorn> in the wiki it also says irc-channel
[12:54] <smile> hi . i have a USB modem connected .. i want know what is this peripheral (/dev/what ??)
[12:54] <smile> how can i deo that ?
[01:00] <smile> hello . anyone is here ??
[01:01] <Sanne> smile: sure :)
[01:02] <smile> Sanne: i want know information about a device .. how to do that ?
[01:03] <Sanne> smile: the command "lspci" will list all your pci devices in the terminal, and "lspci -vv" lists verbose. Try it :)
[01:04] <Sanne> smile: a GUI way would be: kmenu->system-KInfoCenter
[01:06] <smile> Sanne: i need to know what is the device (/dev/what ?)
[01:13] <Sanne> smile: what exactly do you need to know? I don't quite understand.
[01:13] <ardchoille> He needs to know /dev/? of his USB modem
[01:13] <Alarm> whats the device name of a usb modem
[01:15] <nosrednaekim> is it seen as a serial port?
[01:15] <Sanne> oh, I don't know that, sorry
[01:15] <Alarm> he said usb
[01:15] <Sanne> Alarm: I joined after :)
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> I think its /dev/ttys"x".
[01:16] <nosrednaekim> lemme check.
[01:16] <Alarm> smile,  is ur usb modem used at the moment ?
[01:16] <Alarm> i mean are u connected ?
[01:16] <smile> Alarm: yes
[01:17] <Alarm> ok, as i dont know the exact command , do a lsof /dev
[01:17] <Alarm> to see which devices uses what
[01:17] <Alarm> maybe u can figure out somehow like that
[01:17] <Alarm> for example what device uses the application to connect
[01:18] <Alarm> example: beep-medi-player 27725 alarm  mem    CHR 116,16      5773 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[01:18] <Sanne> Alarm, smile: hey, you could monitor the syslog, unplug the device and re-plug it, and see what the log sais. To monitor the log, open a terminal and type: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[01:19] <nosrednaekim> smile: check is there is a "/dev/modem"
[01:21] <nosrednaekim> or just plain dmesg would probably tell you
[01:26] <Alarm> Sanne, as nosrednaekim said, dmesg | grep usb ( or grep modem)
[01:26] <Sanne> Alarm: yep, that's right, should have thought of that.
[01:26] <nosrednaekim> smile: did you get that?
[01:31] <smile> nosrednaekim: i have a mobile phone connected and i want know what is the device ? (/dev/what ?)
[01:36] <smile> any help?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> smile: disconnect your phone, them reconnect it.
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> wait about 30 seconds, and then run "dmesg"
[01:36] <smile> nosrednaekim: this will show what is the device of the phone ?
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> at the end of the output, should be info about where your phone is connected
[01:36] <smile> nosrednaekim: k... i'll try
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> smile: yes
[01:37] <smile> nosrednaekim:  Dev: isa0060/serio1/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0
[01:38] <smile> nosrednaekim: what means this ??
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> is there anything after that?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> pastebin the last 30 or so lines of dmesg
[01:39] <smile> nosrednaekim: nothing else
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> well your phone is not detected then, as a phone I mean.
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> its detected as a USB device, but not a phone
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: Alarm: tell me if I'm reading that wrong.
[01:42] <smile> nosrednaekim: i know ..how can i know the device name ?
[01:42] <Alarm> what ?
[01:42] <naught101> how do I tell if I'm running SElinux?
[01:42] <smile> nosrednaekim: in the /dev/
[01:42] <Alarm> i didnt pay attention sorry
[01:42] <naught101> !SElinux
[01:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about selinux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> smile: could you please pastebin the last 30 lines?
[01:42] <nosrednaekim> of dmesg
[01:43] <Alarm> what dmesg? whos dmesg ?
[01:43] <Alarm> isa0060/serio1/input0, Type: 0, Code: 0, Value: 0?
[01:43] <solidus126> hello all
[01:44] <Guilty_as_Sin> hello
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> smile's
[01:45] <solidus126> I have an unresolved problem with my ATI X1400 graphics card, I posted it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2851666#post2851666
[01:45] <solidus126> but I have not got a response that has helped yet
[01:46] <solidus126> is this a good place to ask for help?
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> are you running Kubuntu?
[01:47] <solidus126> yes the latest 7.04
[01:47] <solidus126> I posted as much as I know to do in the above forum link and what firelord suggested did not work
[01:47] <Sanne> nosrednaekim: sorry, that dmesg line doesn't tell me anything, I haven't much experience with usb devices except memory sticks yet.
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> Sanne: yeah me too.
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: reading your thread....
[01:49] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: thanks
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: lets see a pastebin of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:50] <solidus126> ok, I will put it in the forum
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: ok.
[01:51] <kjellviz> hi there, i have ubuntu installed on my comp, is it possible to "add/change" it to kubuntu without doing a clean install and loosing my files&docs?
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: sure! "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> hey really ought to have a bot answer for that by now....
[01:52] <d0zer> how do i install .deb files ?
[01:52] <kjellviz> nosrednaekim: does this also include all the kde apps that the default install of kubuntu does _
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: sure does..
[01:52] <kjellviz> sweet
[01:52] <kjellviz> thanks a million!
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> d0zer: right click on package-> kubuntu package menu-> install package
[01:54] <d0zer> got it.. thx
[01:54] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: I uploaded my xorg.conf
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: heh... thats like the second most common question up here, first being the question to !adeptfix
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: k
[01:55] <kjellviz> nosrednaekim: hehe sorry for that :P  btw what does !adeptfix do ? lol
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> !adeptfix
[01:55] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: oh no problem its an easy answer
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> :-P
[01:56] <kjellviz> ohhh, well i guess i would know if i knew what adept was and where using it :P
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: its the kubuntu equivlent of synaptic
[01:56] <kjellviz> aha
[01:57] <kjellviz> thanks, im gonna reboot from hdd and do a kde desktop install :)
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> kjellviz: ok!
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: not usre if this matters,but I always see 'section "extensions"' at the bottom of the xorg.
[01:58] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: what actions should I take?
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> move that section to the bottom of the file.
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> below the 'Section "DRI"'
[02:00] <solidus126> OK, will try
[02:01] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: going to restart X
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: did it work?
[02:09] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: i believe that you resolved my issue, thank you very much for your time I will post my results on the forum
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> are you sure?
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> maybe i'll make a post claiming the fame ;)
[02:10] <solidus126> I know there is a definite large improvement to both XaoS rendering and my movie playback, I think that it is restored to its former glory
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> try glxinfo.
[02:10] <solidus126> k
[02:10] <solidus126> should I post my glxinfo into the forum?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: nah, no need but does it say ATI or fglrx as the renderstring?
[02:11] <solidus126> yes it does
[02:12] <solidus126> nosrednaekim: I will post on the forums the fix, thank you for my time (I will credit you)
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> lol.. I was kiddin.
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> don't worry about it.
[02:13] <solidus126> also, btw do you know of any good sources to learn about linux use with Kubuntu, I have only been a linux user for about 10 monthes and still have not learned too many tricks
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> solidus126: the best way, IMHO, is hang out on IRS for a while.
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> *IRC
[02:14] <soulrider_> does anyone know where i can gte applets for my panel ?
[02:15] <CraZy675> I installed a bunch of fonts and now some of them are taking over as default
[02:15] <Sanne> solidus126: the Kubuntu Desktop Guide is pretty nice, you shouldt find it under Kmenu->Help. Also help.ubuntu.com has nice articles.
[02:16] <CraZy675> Is there a fast way I can weed out the fonts that some how get set as default?
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: they set themselves as default? well, you can stop that in systemsettings.
[02:17] <Sanne> soulrider_: there's a package kicker-applets (in case you don't have it already)
[02:18] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: no they didn't set themselfs as default they are just appearing instead of.  my font settings in system settings are still set the same as when I installed kubuntu
[02:18] <soulrider_> Sanne: im not running kubuntu =/
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: wow. well do you know the names of these rogue fonts?
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> soulrider_: what are you running?
[02:18] <Sanne> soulrider_: oh. what do you run then?
[02:19] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes: so far I've removed Alien5, bradybun, dynasty, linkin, METOLD, tintin
[02:19] <soulrider_> archlinux
[02:19] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: actually the problem is occurring in firefox
[02:20] <Sanne> soulrider_: but you're running kde?
[02:20] <soulrider_> yeah
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: but nowhere else?
[02:22] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: not that I can find at the moment
[02:22] <Sanne> soulrider_: I don't know how archlinux organizes it's software... maybe there's a package for applets too? Do you have any applets right now?
[02:22] <soulrider_> yeah, i do, i found a package
[02:23] <soulrider_> but i meant somewhere i could browse applets
[02:23] <soulrider_> supposedly there are some in kde-look.org but i cant find a section for them
[02:23] <Sanne> soulrider_: I didn't find much except those Kubuntu provides me with. I have about 30 applets in my list, dunno if there are more.
[02:24] <soulrider_> ahh, ok
[02:24] <soulrider_> but, does anyone know what the Pause/Break button in  my keyboard is for? :P
[02:24] <soulrider_> ive been using computers for almost 15 years and i never knew lol
[02:25] <CraZy675> the pause button pauses the bootup bios screen doesn't it?
[02:25] <Sanne> soulrider_: pausing quake3 ;)
[02:25] <soulrider> lol
[02:25] <soulrider> keyboards should be redesigned
[02:26] <soulrider> like, why would anuone use num lock or scroll lock? :P
[02:26] <soulrider> num, maybe, scroll? i dont think so
[02:26] <CraZy675> num lock is really handy on laptops
[02:26] <soulrider> also, do we need two 'windows' keys?!
[02:26] <soulrider> yes, just on laptops
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: did you try firefox specific settings? you ight also want to enable "kde settings in gtk apps"
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: its called a "super" key
[02:27] <soulrider> well, its super useless to me :P
[02:27] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes i set all firefox specific settings to dejavu font which come default with ubuntu.  I'll try kde settings in gtk apps
[02:28] <soulrider> im installing the extra applets thing, what i dont like is that it installs some stuff i really dont want
[02:28] <soulrider> like wireless tools =/
[02:29] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: when I changed the "kde settings in gtk apps"  It changed the toolbar font, where that is working.  what is not working is the webpage in the viewing window of firefox
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[02:29] <CraZy675> this is weird
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[02:31] <CraZy675> I've had this happen before and usually I just need to remove a few
[02:31] <CraZy675> i guess I'll keep trying that
[02:31] <CraZy675> but before it would effect everything
[02:32] <CraZy675> maybe i need to try another gtk app
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: so you mean like the fons of webpages?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> *fonts?
[02:32] <CraZy675> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> CraZy675: firefox does wierd things like that.
[02:32] <CraZy675> yea
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> maybe there is a plugin for configuring that
[02:33] <CraZy675> maybe
[02:34] <Kjellviz> hi there, i just did a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu installation, and now beryl doesent load, any ideas ?
[02:35] <Kjellviz> (it worked fine in ubuntu)
[02:35] <Kjellviz> (/gnome)
[02:35] <Tm_T> !beryl | Kjellviz
[02:35] <ubotu> Kjellviz: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <Kjellviz> yes i am aware of that
[02:36] <Kjellviz> but seemingly it was the kde install that broke it ><
[02:36] <CraZy675> there I just removed all my fonts
[02:37] <Tm_T> still, it's beryl problem, and you have best luck find knowledge about it in #ubuntu-effects
[02:37] <Kjellviz> aight ill try there
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: you have to get emerald...
[02:38] <Tm_T> nosrednaekim: don't have to
[02:39] <Kjellviz> nosrednaekim: what is emerald ?
[02:41] <Kjellviz> !emerald | kjellviz
[02:41] <marius_> sal 2 all
[02:41] <marius_> ma poate ajuta cineva
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: its the window decorator
[02:41] <marius_> am o prb cu sistemul audio
[02:42] <Kjellviz> an plugin for beryl or what?
[02:42] <marius_> nu imi merge satelitul central
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> !es | marius
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> Kjellviz: kinda.
[02:43] <ubotu> marius: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> its really cool, transparent window borders and such.
[02:43] <marius_> can anyoane help me whit my problem
[02:43] <akrus> hello :)
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> marius_: sure, but you have to speak in english :-P
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:44] <akrus> I need to deny 89.178.*.* in proftpd
[02:44] <marius_>  i have an 5.1 audio system
[02:44] <akrus> <IP_ADDRESS>/?? -> what? :)
[02:44] <akrus> 24 is for last *
[02:44] <marius_> and my central satelite doesn;t work
[02:45] <marius_> so....
[02:45] <marius_> can anyoane help
[02:45] <marius_> can anyone help
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> marius_: no experience with 5.1 sorry
[02:46] <marius_> i gues not!
[02:46] <marius_> ok
[02:46] <marius_> tanks anyway
[02:46] <bennnn> anyone know why openoffice just crashes on load in ubuntu feisty 7
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> bennnn: remove the .oo-2.0 directory in your home directory
[02:49] <Ayabara> when I open kaffeine it always pops up in a corner somewhere. how can I make it always come up centered on the screen?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: you're not running beryl are you?
[02:50] <Syndic4te> Does anyone know how Ican change my refresh rate so that it will boot at a certain refresh rate?
[02:50] <Syndic4te> It always goes back to 50...
[02:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> using k3b, is there a way to leave no pause between tracks?
[02:51] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: nope
[02:51] <Guilty_as_Sin> got a fluid mix that I would like to keep that way
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: in beryl it would have been easy, don't know about kwin
[02:52] <Guilty_as_Sin> I don't see an option to, just figured I would ask
[02:52] <atidem> ciao
[02:53] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: ok. I'm installing Beryl now, actually :-)
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: heh, not becuase of this I hope.
[02:54] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: no. I've reinstalled on my laptop, and it was a bit down on the todo-list. your comment just moved it a bit up :-)
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: hehe
[02:58] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:59] <hnsn> y0
[02:59] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[02:59] <soulrider> HELLO
[02:59] <soulrider> sorry caps :P
[03:00] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: I have Beryl working, and kaffeine still don't centered. Spill it ;-)
[03:00] <BluesKaj> hiyas hnsn. nosrednaekim, soulrider ...Savinig Linux Souls?
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc? anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc? anyone know if you can burn a disc using k3b w/o pause between tracks?  like in fluid mixes or maybe even speeches, podcast etc?
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> oops
[03:00] <Guilty_as_Sin> sorry about that
[03:00] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yep.... tech support never sleeps (glares at BluesKaj)
[03:01] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess I hit copy a few times more than needed
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: you have beryl-manager?
[03:01] <BluesKaj> isn't there an option in k3b to eliminate time between tracks ?
[03:01] <soulrider> there probably is =/
[03:01] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: yep
[03:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> that is what I'm trying to do..  can't seem to find it
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> Ayabara: open beryl settings manager
[03:02] <soulrider> Guilty_as_Sin: hold on a sec
[03:02] <Guilty_as_Sin> thanks
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> go to window management
[03:03] <Ayabara> nosrednaekim: placing centered works fine. only now I think "intelligent" sounds good
[03:03] <Ayabara> :-)
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> oh you found where to do it? cool
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> under set window attribs by window type?
[03:04] <soulrider> Guilty_as_Sin: i cant find something to do that either =/
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> I found volume leveling..
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> about it
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> hmm..
[03:04] <soulrider> google maybe? =/
[03:04] <epimeth> ahoy mike, BluesKaj!
[03:04] <BluesKaj> hi epimeth
[03:04] <Guilty_as_Sin> guess Fabric won't be mixed this go around..  oh well
[03:05] <epimeth> you guys know how to set up a network printer?
[03:05] <epimeth> shared through samba
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> kprinter? KDE is pretty good about autodetecting printers
[03:08] <BluesKaj> epimeth,is it connected to your pc or a different one on the network
[03:08] <epimeth> on a windows box on the network
[03:08] <epimeth> when I go to the samba share, it doesn't appear
[03:08] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: kprinter not installed by default?
[03:08] <BluesKaj> ok, I have the same setup.\
[03:08] <epimeth> sweet
[03:09] <epimeth> nosrednaekim: BluesKaj will help me :-p
[03:09] <BluesKaj> you want to use the cups printer wizard
[03:09] <BluesKaj> in system settings
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: ok. I really ought to learn how samba works tough...
[03:10] <vorlon_> Hello all
[03:10] <epimeth>  hrm... its an HP... will HPLIP toolbox not help?
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> hello vorlon_
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> epimeth: no thats only for local printers
[03:11] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, epimeth you're not really using samba directly ..it's in the back ground as the engine so to speak
[03:11] <epimeth> cool... checking out the printer wizard from system settings then :-)
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> ah... well then its simple.
[03:11] <BluesKaj> no i also have an HP printer a 3520
[03:12] <epimeth> its not finding anything....
[03:12] <vorlon_> Does anyone know why kubuntu has no cron tasks in the lists on install?  Im used to redhat which auto configured...
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ok epimeth, are your networked pcs connected to a router ?
[03:12] <epimeth> BluesKaj: yup
[03:12] <hnsn> what
[03:12] <BluesKaj> ok, don't rush ..there some parameters to follow
[03:12] <epimeth> right
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> vorlon_- what cron tasks would you expect to be there for the normal user?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> epimeth,, you went into system settings and chose printers ?
[03:13] <epimeth> yup
[03:14] <epimeth> *Add -> Printer -> SMB Shared Printer -> scan
[03:15] <vorlon_> Dragnslcr- lol im a bit clueless when it comes to what jobs I would expect it to run.. i gues im just used to the automatic nature of other distro's
[03:16] <BluesKaj> ok did you choose smb shsred printer (windows) ?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> shared
[03:16] <gastly> hi all!
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> vorlon_- if there aren't any tasks that you think should be there but aren't, there isn't really a problem
[03:16] <BluesKaj> then choose Guest account, epimeth
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> its a gastly day out... hi
[03:17] <gastly> hi nosrednaekim
[03:18] <vorlon_> Dragnslcr-Ok thanks
[03:19] <epimeth> BluesKaj: it finds the workgroup, but no computers inside the workgroup
[03:19] <gastly> hey what IRC client are you using? I was just looking for one that's good and had loads of features.
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> konversation is great
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> I'm using GAIM
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> which isn't exactly an irc client
[03:20] <BluesKaj> epimeth , check properties on the the other pc that the printer connects to ..you need the name of the pc ..like my wifes is Pavilion
[03:20] <gastly> I am using Konversation. But I think it does not have any cool plugins
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> gastly: yeah it does... if you use amarok. do "/media"
[03:21] <BluesKaj> epimeth then check printer properties on the other printer and get the name of the driver
[03:21] <gastly> ok
[03:21] <BluesKaj> on the other pc
[03:21] <gastly> cool!
[03:22] <gastly> hey thanks nosrednaekim!
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> gastly: yep... its got some other ones too.
[03:23] <gastly> like?
[03:23] <BluesKaj> yeah gastly , konverstion is great, theonly thing lacking is a built in server list
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> like h4kkx0r auto translation
[03:23] <Dragnslcr> The only feature I miss in Konversation is event scripting
[03:23] <gastly> BluesKaj: It has a server list I think?
[03:24] <vorlon_> cheers all
[03:25] <adaptr> Dragnslcr and click-and-drag splitting of threads... AKA virtual channels
[03:25] <BluesKaj> that's fine epimeth ..if it's the network server , but just get the pc name
[03:25] <adaptr> apart from that, it's teh nuke
[03:25] <gastly> Dragnslcr: Yup scripting improves things gratly.
[03:25] <BluesKaj> and the printer driver name
[03:25] <gastly> typo: greatly
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> adaptr- I've never seen that in any IRC client I've used
[03:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: nice... got a test page out
[03:25] <epimeth> BluesKaj: cheers :-)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> coolness epimeth :)
[03:26] <epimeth> BluesKaj: and now it just dissapeared???
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> When Konversation adds event scripting, I'll probably start using it
[03:26] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: add it yourelsf!
[03:26] <Dragnslcr> Not that I do much, but I still like the ability
[03:26] <adaptr> Dragnslcr I wonder why not - it's incredibly useful and logical
[03:26] <gastly> Dragnslcr: What r u using right now?
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> gastly- XChat
[03:27] <gastly> Dragnslcr: cool!
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- heh, if my C programming weren't horribly rusty, I might try
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> Too many years in high-level languages
[03:27] <gastly> wait lemme try this
[03:28] <gastly> Random Fortune: Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste 	--<EMAIL_ADDRESS>put this on Tshirts in '93
[03:28] <gastly> lol
[03:28] <gastly> Its fun
[03:28] <epimeth> BluesKaj: and now I can't add a printer?  wtf....
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: after  quick check, there is a dcop interface to conversation, which would make very very easy
[03:28] <epimeth> oh... lol
[03:28] <epimeth> wasn't on CUPS
[03:28] <epimeth> okay
[03:29] <gastly> OK guys thanks for the help! Bye!
[03:29] <xst> How do I make knetworkmanager be automaticallly loaded upon login?
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- it probably wouldn't be too difficult, but it's one of those things where someone who knows the code could implement it in a day or two, instead of the two weeks it would take me to do it
[03:30] <Dragnslcr> And if someone else did it, it might actually work correctly
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: gotcha..
[03:35] <BluesKaj> epimeth, cups back on track ?
[03:37] <BluesKaj> bbiab , stuff to do
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> nosrednaekim- a quick hack that just did "execute this script when this event occurs" would be good enough for me, but I doubt that would be the best thing for the general user base
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: right, and I could probably do that quick hack in python in about an hour.
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> but I'd have to learn Dcop and such.
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> which might be useful, but its also outdated
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> The Konversation page on scripting says it can do scripts in Perl and Python, but doesn't give an example
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: hmm...
[03:44] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, could a scrpit be written to auto load a server list for the various IRC networks ? A mature IRC client like Konversation should have one IMO :)
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> Do Perl and Python have dcop libraries, or do you have to shell out to do it?
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- heh, I'm sure it could be done in C, just read a config file and populate a list. I'm surprised Konversation doesn't already have a server list
[03:46] <BluesKaj> there is a list that the user has to configure from the getgo
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> Dragnslcr: dcop in python is as simple as "from pykde import dcop
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> I don't do perl
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[03:47] <Dragnslcr> So yeah, basic event scripting would be easy, it would just require hooking into the event and running a given script normally
[03:47] <nosrednaekim> yeah
[03:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm.
[03:52] <Dr_willis> cant many irc clients take an irc://freenode.net type url from the browser?   Ya could just have a little web page with your serverlists then.
[03:55] <see-g> you'd just have to figure out how to pass the URL to the client
[03:56] <see-g> somewhere in $your_browser there should be a way to make it open certain links (e.g. irc://) with your IRC client...
[03:58] <Dr_willis> yea. i was thinking KDE allready had that setup.
[03:59] <Dr_willis> but I only go to one irc network. :)
[03:59] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- I found this Perl script- http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/Server_List
[04:01] <Minataku> Dr_willis: I got two of the calculators half-ass restored
[04:01] <Minataku> AND converted to use standard 9V batteries
[04:01] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  heh.   Ya da man!
[04:01] <Minataku> The other one, the LCD one only needs 2x LR44
[04:01] <Dr_willis> yea that was the newer one.
[04:02] <Dr_willis> I got out my old hp28S - it needs fancy odd ball batteries also.  like i need it running. :)
[04:02] <Minataku> One was easy to convert, I just ripped apart the battery pack (on both of them, actually, to make space for the 9V) and it already connected to the battery pack with a 9V clip
[04:02] <Dr_willis> That calculator helped me pass College
[04:02] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  so they used 3 AA sized batteries instead of a 9v eh.
[04:02] <Minataku> Actually
[04:03] <Minataku> The two that needed 9V for operation used 2x 1.2V NiCd
[04:03] <Minataku> There was a DC-DC converter inside the pack to bump it to 9V
[04:03] <Dr_willis> aint that fancy. :)
[04:03] <Minataku> The other two use 3x 1.2V NiCd but actually operate at 3.6V
[04:03] <Minataku> No conversion required
[04:04] <Minataku> I may try to make a custom battery pack that uses plain (and easily replaced) Alkaline AAs
[04:04] <Minataku> +0.4V shouldn't be too far out of tolerance
[04:05] <Minataku> If any thing it'll end up with batteries that last longer than time itself
[04:05] <Minataku> Well, not really, just longer than the average BP-1A
[04:05] <Minataku> ^^
[04:06] <Minataku> It's cool, the TI-30 has this nifty flickering 8 when it's doing complex calculations
[04:06] <Minataku> As for the Rat Shack one, it's an EC-4000
[04:06] <Minataku> Nothing more than a rebranded TI-57
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Yep. Radioshack always did that.
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Even their radios adn stuff are that way.
[04:07] <Minataku> That one had a pin-header type plug in it
[04:07] <Minataku> What I did was ripped off the 9V clip from inside the TI's...
[04:08] <Minataku> Stripped some of the insulation off the ends, jammed the bare wires into the plug then secured it all with electrical tape
[04:08] <Minataku> Totally half-assed, if even that much, but hey, it works
[04:10] <see-g> thanks for reminding me ... I'll have to find some tape to insulate a mains connection...
[04:11] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:12] <Dr_willis> I gotta go clean out the fish tank the wife got at a rummage sale.. shes feeling MUCH better - spent all day yesterday at JunkSales!
[04:12] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:12] <Minataku> She buy anything good?
[04:12] <Minataku> Say, do you even have fish? Or did she just buy it? XD
[04:13] <Dr_willis> we got a whole 4 goldfish. :)
[04:13] <Dr_willis> now they got a Big 40 Gal tank.
[04:13] <MECU> how can I tell it to use Firefox to open things and not Konqueror?
[04:14] <Minataku> Haha
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> MECU- System Settings -> Default Applications
[04:16] <spawn57> are tehre any replacements for panel? like kxdocker?
[04:17] <MECU> thank you
[04:19] <Minataku> |    $		big money		unary exclusive OR (ASCII)    |
[04:19] <Minataku> |    c^H|	change			binary mingle		      |
[04:20] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:21] <Dr_willis> !info kxdocker
[04:21] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[04:21] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, thx for the URL & script ...was out for a bit . I'll check it out in  a lil later
[04:21] <Dr_willis> I dont like Kxdocker
[04:21] <Minataku> Also, since overpunches are difficult to read on the average VDT, the exclusive-or operator may be written ?. This correctly expresses the average person's reaction on first encountering exclusive-or, especially on a PDP-11.
[04:23] <Minataku> That INTERCAL manual is hilarious
[04:23] <Dr_willis> !info fspanel
[04:23] <ubotu> fspanel: minimalist panel for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-6 (feisty), package size 11 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:27] <angkoL> hi
[04:42] <Dragnslcr> !search ksharedptr.h
[04:42] <ubotu> Found:
[04:47] <Ayabara> !bluetooth
[04:47] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:51] <xst> I have tried to configure a second monitor to my laptop but now, whenever I click on System Settings -> Monitor&Display kcrashhandler pops up and I am therefore not able to (re)configure the display. Furthermore the powermanager is now crashing also, when I log in. It seems that kubuntu seriousely screwed up my system when I configured my monitor. What to do?
[04:53] <arkanabar> I also have a graphics problem.  After installing the nvidia binaries for my Geforce 7100, I am stuck with a resolution of 640x480!  I had to revert my xorg.conf to even log in....
[04:54] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: have you tried manually setting your resolution higher?
[04:54] <arkanabar> The current upper limit IS 640x480.
[04:58] <arkanabar> Though given that this is a virgin install, nothing but the nvidia drivers and updates, I've considered reinstalling.
[04:58] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: did it give you an error with xorg?
[04:58] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: pastebin your xorg.conf?
[04:58] <arkanabar> No, it just never got to desktop until I reverted xorg.
[04:58] <RadiantFire> what was the error it gave you, or did it just hang?
[04:58] <arkanabar> Remind me how to pastebin,please?
[04:58] <RadiantFire> !pastebin > arkanabar
[04:58] <arkanabar> It just hanged in a text screen.
[04:59] <RadiantFire> and if possible, your xorg.conf with the nvidia
[04:59] <RadiantFire> this is why binary drivers are no fun...
[04:59] <arkanabar> I think I overwrote those, but I can run the config again.
[05:00] <RadiantFire> well make sure that the current working one is backed up and restored before you restart x
[05:00] <RadiantFire> moving the config file around doesn't matter unless x needs to start
[05:01] <dwkr> hi
[05:02] <arkanabar> It generates a backup & even reminds me where it is when I run the config ... just need to remind myself how to do that.
[05:02] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode
[05:02] <waltercool> hi there...someone know how open .rmvb videos?? (real media)??
[05:03] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: you can cp the backup file ontop of the new one
[05:05] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode, help me please
[05:05] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know if Adept and/or apt keeps a log of actions? I just installed a whole lot of dev packages to try to get something to compile, and I might as well get rid of them
[05:05] <blekos> how can i remove a directory to another destination? (from command line)
[05:06] <blekos> is it rm?
[05:06] <waltercool> yes
[05:06] <CraZy675> so what is the trick to installing flash player for swiftfox?
[05:06] <RadiantFire> blekos: rmdir
[05:06] <blekos> thnx
[05:06] <arkanabar> RadiantFire: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25969/ is current xorg.conf
[05:06] <waltercool> rm -R
[05:06] <RadiantFire> blekos: of if your feeling really daring rm -rf
[05:06] <happytiger> How do I increase SHMMIN parameter ? Problem is I cant start postgresql 8.2 due to to little shared memory?
[05:06] <RadiantFire> but rm -rf deletes everything
[05:06] <RadiantFire> so be careful
[05:06] <ardchoille> blekos: If the dir is empty: rmdir  .. if it isn't empty: rm -r
[05:07] <waltercool> rm -R delete directory and all
[05:07] <blekos> i c, i think rm -r is what i need
[05:07] <waltercool> is recursive
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: this line may be your problem
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: modes "640x480@60"
[05:07] <blekos> recursive meaning copy all its subfolders ?
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: as well as this
[05:07] <RadiantFire> modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync
[05:07] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: I would suggest commenting those 2 lines out
[05:08] <waltercool> delete folder and subfolder
[05:08] <ardchoille> blekos: No, "recursive" means to act on all files below a certain level
[05:08] <waltercool> if u want move is mv, or copy, cp
[05:08] <blekos> i dor rmdir-r but i get command not found
[05:08] <Dragnslcr> "how can i remove a directory to another destination?"  Are you sure mean "remove" and not "move"?
[05:09] <arkanabar> RadiantFire:  Thanks.  also have xorg.conf.1 at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25970/
[05:10] <blekos> it is copied in a wrong folder so i want to have it placed somewhere else
[05:10] <Dragnslcr> blekos- so you mean move the directory?
[05:10] <Dragnslcr> blekos- mv [source]  [destination]
[05:10] <CraZy675> I would imagine that the majority of people install flash player.  Why can't I? it times out when trying to install it from macromedia
[05:10] <RadiantFire> arkanabar: ah, see thats what the Screen section should look like. Its entirely possible you could just copy that part to the file with nvidia. Also, if you ever make a mistake and your X wno't come up, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will ask you like 4 questions, and you can mostly click through it, to get a working config back
[05:10] <blekos> yes. Remove was accurate as it did not mean completely erase it. But i guess in your context is move
[05:10] <blekos> i cs
[05:10] <blekos> i c
[05:10] <ardchoille> blekos: There is no -r option to rmdir, you need rm -r
[05:11] <blekos> i guess mv did the trick
[05:11] <blekos> :)
[05:11] <Dragnslcr> blekos- "remove" does mean delete
[05:11] <ardchoille> blekos: mv just moves files, it doesn't delete anything.
[05:11] <blekos> speaking in pc world i guess u r wright...
[05:12] <xst> I have altered my monitor settings from System Settings -> Monitor&Display and now things are a bit screwed up: 1) power manager crashes upon every log in, 2) I cannot open System Settings -> Monitor & Display anymore (it crashes). What to do?
[05:12] <Dragnslcr> blekos- no, that's the English definition for remove. "remove" means delete or erase
[05:13] <blekos> lol, funny conversation, but according to Collins English dictionary Complete & Ubrdidged "remove=to take away and place elsewhere"
[05:15] <jriachi> blekos: in this case,  elsewhere==/dev/null
[05:15] <ardchoille> blekos: Well, unless you have the ability to nullify matter, then that's what remove means ;) When you remove something, you're really just placing it in a different place.
[05:15] <Dragnslcr> Hm, I don't think I've heard anyone use that definition of remove in a while, if ever
[05:16] <blekos> back to the real problem, i got a msg File size limit exceeded (core dumped)
[05:16] <blekos> i never thought i could start a flame (even for fun) from such a question!!!
[05:16] <Dragnslcr> When you try to use mv?
[05:17] <blekos> i kept a back on a wrong folder and now i want to move this file to the "proper" folder in which i keep my backups
[05:17] <blekos> i kept a back up on a wrong folder and now i want to move this file to the "proper" folder in which i keep my backups
[05:18] <blekos> but it seems to be quite big
[05:18] <CraZy675> how do I install flashplugin-nonfree? the macromedia site always times out
[05:18] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:18] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[05:18] <blekos> sorry thought why i try to use
[05:19] <blekos> yes, when i try to use mv, after awhile i get this msg
[05:19] <CraZy675> that doesn't help me
[05:19] <ardchoille> CraZy675: enable multiverse, then: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:19] <CraZy675> ok
[05:19] <micha_> Hello. I'm afraid this is asked often, but I'm having problems installing binary nvidia drivers.  The wiki tells me to use sytem->administration->restricted devices manager. That does not exist. I installed with adept manager, but extension glx is still missing.
[05:19] <Dragnslcr> blekos- how large is the file, and how much free disk space do you have?
[05:19] <CraZy675> ardchoille: my multiverse is enabled
[05:20] <CraZy675> ardchoille: the problem is the macromedia site won't upload it to me
[05:20] <ardchoille> CraZy675: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:20] <blekos> it is 4gb+ and have  63gb free. Please note that i try to move it to a NTFS partition
[05:20] <ardchoille> CraZy675: Ah, I see. Nothing I can do to help with that, sorry
[05:20] <jussi01> CraZy675: it does that sometimes... keep trying
[05:20] <ardchoille> !ntfs | blekos
[05:21] <ubotu> blekos: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:21] <CraZy675> oh I'll keep trying
[05:21] <blekos> i can see and write to my ntfs
[05:21] <CraZy675> when I do get it is there someway I can set up a mirror for my other machines?
[05:21] <blekos> it is properly mounted
[05:22] <jussi01> CraZy675: i dont know, sorry
[05:22] <blekos> any ideas?
[05:22] <dwkr> i have a problem with my ipw3945 card, it's working in recovery mode but not in normal mode, help me please
[05:23] <blekos> i also want to ask this: i have installed nvidia-glx, but when I try to install nvidia-settings from the adept manager it marks nvidia-glx for removal
[05:24] <blekos> cant i have both, are they incompatible?
[05:24] <micha_> blekos: did installing nvidia-glx work for you? I'm currently fighting with that... glxinfo still tells me that GLX is missing
[05:25] <Alarm> blekos,  you try that trhough console ?
[05:26] <blekos> yes it workd for me
[05:27] <blekos> sorry micha_
[05:27] <blekos> what do you mean workd for me
[05:27] <blekos> Alarm
[05:27] <blekos> no i havent tried through console
 i also want to ask this: i have installed nvidia-glx, but when I try to install nvidia-settings from the adept manager it marks nvidia-glx for removal
[05:27] <Alarm> and i ask, if u tried to install nvidia-settings through console
[05:27] <Alarm> do so then
[05:28] <blekos> will i be asked if there is smg 2 b removed?
[05:28] <blekos> i'm just afraid for complication problems?
[05:28] <Alarm> yes
[05:28] <Alarm> u can always answer 'n'
[05:28] <Narf> Hi all,
[05:28] <blekos> micha_a, there was a command that when i entered it, i could see that i had rendering
[05:29] <Narf> could someone of you please explain to me how to start kubuntu without starting X automatically
[05:29] <Alarm> micha_,  what does glxinfo | grep render show you ?
[05:29] <Alarm> Narf, u want to get to console for one time or everytime ?
[05:30] <micha_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:30] <micha_> serveral times
[05:30] <Alarm> not as root
[05:30] <Alarm> do it as simple user
[05:30] <Alarm> wihout sudo
[05:30] <micha_> that was without sudo
[05:30] <Alarm> check in the /etc/xorg.conf if in driver "nvidia"
[05:30] <blekos> Alarm, where can i post some result for u to see them?
[05:30] <Alarm> and not 'nv' or something else
[05:31] <Alarm> http://mishu.eu.org/paste
[05:31] <micha_> hm, no xorg.conf in /etc
[05:31] <Narf> Alarm I'm trying to install my Nvidia driver and therefore I have to start in text mode
[05:31] <Narf> Problem is that I can't
[05:31] <Alarm> Narf, ctrl+alt+f1
[05:31] <Narf> anytime I try either the computer start with X or it don't start at all
[05:32] <Alarm> logout first better from this session
[05:32] <micha_> ah ok etc/X11/xorg.conf.. it's using NV
[05:32] <blekos> Alarm could u please see this http://www.mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3502
[05:32] <Alarm> micha_,  change it to "nvidia"
[05:32] <Alarm> restart x
[05:32] <Narf> Alarm: I know but as soon as I shutdown X I can't access anything in linux it's just dead
[05:32] <micha_> ok, i'll try. Thanks.
[05:32] <Narf>  I just don't understand it
[05:32] <Alarm> dead ? i dont understand either what u need to know , how to get into console ?
[05:33] <Narf> Alarm: I'm using Kubuntu Feisty 64 bit version
[05:33] <Alarm> blekos, as you see: The following packages are BROKEN:
[05:33] <Alarm> blekos try sudo apt-get -f install
[05:34] <Alarm> Narf, go on
[05:34] <Narf> Alarm: I open text mode using ctrl+alt+f1 but as long as the Xserver is still running I can't install the Nvidia driver
[05:34] <Alarm> stop kdm
[05:34] <blekos> but i see render as yes, and i also got another message, http://www.mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=3503
[05:35] <Alarm> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:35] <Narf> Alarm: my problem is that as soon as I shutdow X my monitor is black and I can't access any of the textmode server ctrl+alt+f1 // F2 or something else
[05:35] <blekos> i press no to the first sollution and got another suggestion, what do u think of it
[05:35] <Narf> I simple have to restart and start all ovr
[05:35] <micha_> OK, that worked. Thanks again.
[05:35] <Alarm> i dont know what: Score is -370 is
[05:35] <Alarm> micha_,  no prob
[05:36] <Alarm> but as much i see blekos  it tries to install the new driver
[05:36] <Narf> Alarm: I'll try that and come back to lat you know whether it worked
[05:36] <blekos> should i go for it?
[05:36] <Alarm> Narf,  you mean its not shutting down ?
[05:36] <grul> !ntfs-3g
[05:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:36] <Alarm> doesnt turn of ?
[05:36] <blekos> what does the score -370 mean?
[05:37] <Alarm> blekos,  as i am not an expert am also a newbie here, or wait for someone else to answer. i have installed drivers from the nvidia.com site
[05:37] <mordaunt> where do you add things to kde startup?
[05:37] <Alarm> but i dont think you can damage ur system
[05:37] <blekos> i c
[05:37] <blekos> thnx
[05:37] <Alarm> remove the old drivers
[05:37] <Alarm> and install the nvidia-glx-new
[05:38] <Alarm> blekos,  as i risk sometimes, i would install the new ones
[05:38] <zipper> Uhh, Kdevelop actually seems kind of nice. Its not visual studio, but nice.
[05:38] <Alarm> did apt-get -f install do something ?
[05:39] <Alarm> its an ide . for something more download tools for qt or gtk development
[05:39] <zipper> i dont wanna do qt or gtk development, just learning c/c++
[05:39] <Alarm> then kdevelop is ideal
[05:40] <zipper> it just takes a while getting used to, but yeah, it seems nice
[05:40] <Alarm> why would someone need a whole visual studio to write a simple program then
[05:40] <Alarm> :)
[05:40] <zipper> i need to write many simple programs :)
[05:40] <mordaunt> if you're only starting to learn C/C++ you only nano
[05:40] <mordaunt> you onle need
[05:40] <zipper> well
[05:40] <mordaunt> or kate
[05:40] <zipper> been learning for a year at uni, so not completely newbie
[05:40] <Alarm> mordaunt,  not everyone knows how to use gccs flags
[05:40] <mordaunt> try kate
[05:41] <zipper> nah
[05:41] <zipper> vim ftw
[05:41] <micha_> hm, kate is nice, but missing some helpful stuff. Like outcommenting blocks in c++
[05:41] <zipper> but i want a proper gui for programming
[05:41] <mordaunt> vim suxor!
[05:41] <zipper> vim is the shizzle! :)
[05:41] <micha_> i recommend code::blocks ;)
[05:41] <Alarm> any simple editor that handles brackets and tabs is fine. the point if you are in the mood of learning the arguments that gcc needs
[05:41] <zipper> i've heard about that recently, is it new or what? Think i heard about it a week ago or something
[05:41] <zipper> code::blocks that is
[05:42] <Alarm> some are not, or are too lazy. and if an ide provides my compiling arguments and the text editor, why to handle it on my own
[05:42] <micha_> no, it's not new. It's a rather simple IDE, but runs identical on Linux & Windows and very good for cross-plattform-development
[05:42] <mordaunt> well if you're programming on unix you need a few simple tools
[05:43] <mordaunt> a simple editor, gcc, gdb, gprof
[05:43] <zipper> micha_, i see. Simple as in a regular text editor (kate/gvim) or is it made for a specific language?
[05:43] <mordaunt> i think kdevelop has all that stuff integrated
[05:43] <Dragnslcr> I'm looking forward to Kdevelop 4 having C# support
[05:44] <micha_> zipper: It'S an IDE including project management. But not so complex like kdeveleop. Editor is similar to kate, but some stuff which helps for c++ programming.
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> I'll be interested in seeing how it compares to MonoDevelop
[05:44] <mordaunt> Dragnslcr: it'll probably be faster ;)
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[05:44] <zipper> micha_, cool, i'll have to take a look at it then, thanks
[05:44] <Dragnslcr> MonoDevelop does lag a bit sometimes
[05:45] <Narf> Alarm: sorry to bother you again but I can't shutdown X without shutting down all other sessions as well Ctr+alt+F1 to ctr+alt+F6
[05:45] <micha_> zipper: but use nightly builds - not the last official release. They are stable and way more advanced.
[05:45] <zipper> hehe
[05:45] <zipper> nightly builds
[05:45] <zipper> that reminds me of running debian sid
[05:45] <zipper> oh the dependency horrors
[05:45] <Alarm> why would u need 6 sessions ?
[05:45] <Narf> I need only one but as soon as I chutdown X I have non
[05:46] <zipper> Narf, you sure it isnt just kdm/gdm keeping X running?
[05:46] <Alarm> anyway i dont know if u need to end all sessions to shut down, thats something i never tried
[05:46] <zipper> Narf, oh, so you cant access tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) at all?
[05:46] <Alarm> i cant understand the real problem to be honest
[05:46] <erz-> where is kubuntu distribution upgrade tool ?  : )
[05:46] <Alarm> erz-, apt-get upgrade
[05:46] <Narf> zipper I open a session with crt+alt+F1 and login then I go back with alt+F7 and shutdown X
[05:47] <Alarm> what i dont understand is why do u get in console to shut down ?
[05:47] <Narf> As soon a I do this the sesion ctr+alt+F1 is also no longer accessable
[05:47] <Narf> I don't understand it and I'm working on it for hours ba now
[05:47] <erz-> Alarm: i want to upgrade to feisty
[05:48] <Alarm> i dont know if its the same in kubuntu, but i suppose its apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:48] <Alarm> if its on debian like that it will be the same on kubuntu
[05:48] <Narf> Alarm: I'm trying to install the Nvidia driver for my GFX card but to do that X has to be deactive
[05:49] <Alarm> Narf, i allready told you. alt+ctrl+f1 , login , and to sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[05:49] <Narf> Alarm: I don't think that I can upgrade my version as it is already the lates release
[05:49] <Alarm> then install the nvidia driver
[05:49] <Alarm> and startx again
[05:49] <Alarm> dont get why you need to restart or open 6 sessions
[05:50] <Narf> Alarm: give me a sec
[05:52] <damianos_> Hello
[05:52] <damianos_> what kind of program do you use for videoconference (I mean video and voice in the same time)?
[05:53] <Alarm> skype ?
[05:53] <Alarm> amsn ? i dont know if this supports audio. surely does camera
[05:57] <BluesKaj> you there Dragnslcr ?
[05:58] <Rictoo> How do I update a specific application with apt-get?
[05:58] <damianos_> Alarm: skype doesn't work with video under linux
[05:59] <marcel__> hi, anyone know how to edit the kde lost & found entries?
[05:59] <Narf> Alarm: I did exactly as you told me, I typed sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop and as soon asi pressed enter my screen gets black and I have to restart
[05:59] <Alarm> damianos_,  didnt know , thats why i did add a questionmark
[05:59] <damianos_> generali there is a problem with video in linux :|
[05:59] <Alarm> it turns black ? u should do that while u are on console
[05:59] <Alarm> kdm has nothing to do with console. terminal doesnt need kdm to run
[06:00] <Narf> Alarm: I changed to textmode ctr+alt+F1 and wrote sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:00] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:01] <Narf> as soon as I pressed enter my screen is black and I can't do anything else then restart the system
[06:01] <Alarm> and the monitor turned black ? instead of telling "now stopping kdm" or something like that ?
[06:01] <cedross> having trouble connecting to a windows machine in my home network - can anyone help me
[06:01] <Alarm> thats something i hear for the first time
[06:01] <Narf> why is it always me ;o(
[06:02] <Narf> Alarm: I've also tryed to reinstall: also nno use same problem
[06:02] <Alarm> now i suppose u are on kde and its working
[06:02] <Narf>  bit version my gfx card doesn't work or at least I couldn't get it to work
[06:02] <Alarm> and when u try to shutdown , the monitor turns black and doesnt shutdown ?
[06:03] <Narf> Alarm:no shutdown workes fine
[06:04] <Narf> you know the funny thing is wen I start the conputer in safe /repair mode I can install the driver and everything works just fine untiol I restart
[06:05] <wolferine> morning
[06:06] <cedross> I can see  the windows shares but when I try to access them it tells me access is denied
[06:07] <wolferine> permissions
[06:07] <wolferine> or windows firewall
[06:08] <Narf> cedross: try to change the ownership of the folders chown name.group foldername
[06:08] <jd823592> hi all i have a serious problem at least for me..... i screwed up my grub menu.lst and forgot to make a buckup file ... is there any way how to make grub going
[06:08] <jd823592> *backup
[06:09] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:10] <jd823592> please is there anyone who can help me with the GRUB problem???
[06:10] <ubunturos> jd823592: !ask
[06:10] <NickPresta> !ask | jd823592
[06:10] <ubotu> jd823592: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:10] <Alarm> Narf,  sorry i had a phonecall
[06:11] <jd823592> i already did but....i messed up my menu.lst but didnt make any backup file is there any way how to generate new one or how can i find out for example UUID number of one of my partition
[06:13] <Alarm> Narf,  reinstall the drivers while u are on kde, and restart ur computer
[06:13] <jd823592> i tried to repair it but now when i try to boot my other UBUNTU on the second partition it says FILE DOESN'T EXIST or something like that
[06:13] <NickPresta> jd823592, `cat /etc/fstab` in the console
[06:14] <RandMC_> I have a question.
[06:14] <jd823592> ooo thx
[06:14] <jd823592> but there is another problem
[06:14] <BluesKaj> !ask | RandMC_,
[06:14] <ubotu> RandMC_,: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:14] <jd823592> i supposed that the problem was that i had the UUID wrong but its correct
[06:15] <jd823592> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:15] <jd823592> root		(hd0,1)
[06:15] <jd823592> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-16-generic root=UUID=6532e4dd-f757-4384-94af-2cb4d0ea2d18 ro quiet splash
[06:15] <jd823592> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-16-generic
[06:15] <jd823592> quiet
[06:15] <jd823592> savedefault
[06:15] <RandMC_> Amarok is not working when trying to install mp3 support, what other music player is like Amarok? It should run like itunes.
[06:15] <jd823592> Rhythmbox
[06:16] <RandMC_> ok I will search the repository for Rhythmbox.
[06:16] <Jucato> RandMC_: er.. just simply install "libxine-extracodecs"
[06:16] <Jucato> no need to install Rhythmbox
[06:17] <eriefisher> Amorok is best- Rythmbox wont help a codec problem
[06:17] <Alarm> RandMC_,  gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly maybe also
[06:17] <Jucato> worse, you'll have to install even more codecs
[06:17] <Alarm> and what Jucato  just mentioned : http://winanga.wordpress.com/2006/03/18/amarok-mp3-support-in-ubuntu-dapper/
[06:17] <jd823592> i'm sry i just replied about what is similar not what would solve it sry
[06:17] <BluesKaj> RandMC_, did yo try to play a mp3, usually trying to play one will trigger the the install mp3 support option
[06:17] <RandMC_> I will look for libxine-Extracodecs in the repository.
[06:18] <jd823592> NickPresta: dont you know what might be the problem?
[06:18] <RandMC_> The Application freezes before I can run it.
[06:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:18] <sivaji> hi BluesKaj Jucato
[06:18] <RandMC_> Run the install.
[06:19] <Jucato> hi sivaji
[06:19] <BluesKaj> the libxine-extracodecs should do the trick, RandMC_
[06:19] <NickPresta> jd823592, I don't know how to diagnose the problem without more information
[06:19] <Jucato> RandMC_: just install that libxine-extracodecs package and you'll be able to play mp3 and avi
[06:19] <BluesKaj> hi sivaji
[06:19] <RandMC_> thanks I will try that out.
[06:20] <jd823592> NickPresta: how can i find out what exactly is supposed to be in initrd and kernel line??
[06:20] <jd823592> what kind of information would help you
[06:21] <premier_> Hi, I'm trying to get my laptop to suspend and hibernate correctly.  It suspended and resumed correctly once but now it doesn't display the screen when it comes out of suspend... this is with the fglrx drivers.  Is this a know issue?
[06:22] <jriachi> premier_: it also happens to me, but seems to work correctly again after 10 mins :S
[06:22] <RandMC_> I am going to try it out already downloaded and installed.
[06:22] <premier_> jriachi: are you serious?
[06:22] <sivaji_> is it possible to enable hibernate in kubuntu
[06:23] <sivaji_> !hibernate
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hibernate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <premier_> sivaji_: it should be by default, its just some computers don't want to
[06:23] <premier_> !power saving
[06:23] <jriachi> premier_: completly serious... i discovered it, one day i wake it up and went to the shower... and discovered that it was working
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power saving - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <sivaji_> ho uboat down
[06:24] <jriachi> (FujistuSiemens amilo laptop -  nvidia-glx drivers)
[06:24] <RandMC_> It works thank you so much.
[06:24] <premier_> hmmmm... yours is different, so theres still some hope
[06:24] <sivaji_> premier_ i had that option when i am using livecd but i dont know how to enable
[06:25] <premier_> sivaji_: hibernate?  Just go to the K Menu and select log out... then select hibernate
[06:25] <RandMC_> got to go. thanks so much.
[06:25] <jd823592> any suggestion how to remake grub to work ... i have no backup and i want to make it work
[06:27] <sivaji_> i dont find that i could see only four option 1)end session 2)turn off 3)restart 4)cancel
[06:27] <sivaji_> jd823592 yes
[06:28] <NickPresta> jd823592, I can post you my grub, which is pretty vanilla. You would obviously have to change the location as I doubt our setups are identical
[06:28] <blekos> how can i stop the X from running for gnome is sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:28] <sivaji_> jd823592 u can boot from cd i got that image iso file
[06:28] <blekos> how is for kde?
[06:28] <Alarm> kdm
[06:28] <Alarm> :)
[06:28] <blekos> lol
[06:28] <NickPresta> blekos, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm
[06:28] <blekos>  thnx
[06:28] <Alarm> blekos,  before doing that
[06:28] <jd823592> please post yours
[06:29] <Alarm> hmm i wasnt fast enough hehe, wanted to tell him to alt+ctrl+f1 hehe
[06:29] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:29] <BluesKaj> !power
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <Alarm> !i'vegotthepower
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i'vegotthepower - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <jd823592> i have another question ... is it possible to have more than 4 partitions?
[06:29] <Alarm> jd823592,  yes
[06:29] <Alarm> logical drives
[06:29] <Alarm> and extented
[06:29] <NickPresta> jd823592, you need to use extended partitions. 4 primary partitions is the max, IIRC
[06:30] <jd823592> what difference is between LOG and PRIM?
[06:30] <Alarm> you mean logical and extented
[06:30] <sivaji_> jd823592  http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso u can boot linux if u have this
[06:30] <NickPresta> jd823592, you may also want to look at this: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/file/structPartitions-c.html
[06:30] <Alarm> if i am not wrong, a primary partition can be bootable, a logical not
[06:31] <Alarm> jd823592,  after u create an extented you can use many logical drives in it
[06:31] <Arwen> gah, wtf, ati f***ed my system up...
[06:31] <NickPresta> Arwen, what seems to be the problem?
[06:31] <Arwen> now one of my display's resolutions is locked at 1024x768.... wtf?
[06:32] <NickPresta> Arwen, do you have the correct drivers for your graphics card?
[06:32] <Alarm> Arwen,  maybe in xorg there arent higher resolutions listed
[06:32] <Arwen> NickPresta, yes yes yes...
[06:32] <Alarm> have u checked that ?
[06:32] <Arwen> Alarm, no, all the resolutions are listed, and I can change to them, but the monitor still displays in 1024x768
[06:32] <Arwen> the contents are just scrolled off...
[06:32] <Alarm> i must admit i had also the same problem, that my system denied in going to a proper refresh rate
[06:33] <Alarm> have u tried to reconfigure xserver ?
[06:33] <jd823592> i have no idea what does it mean ...LOGIAL DRIVE ... what is the difference ... i need to have WINPART LINPART1 LINPART2 SWAP DATA-FAT32PART which of them can be LOgical
[06:33] <Arwen> Alarm, yes
[06:33] <Arwen> I've reconfigured xorg, replaced xorg.conf with an original, but nothing works
[06:33] <NickPresta> Arwen, have you upgraded your kernel recently?
[06:33] <Arwen> no
[06:33] <Arwen> this a recent problem
[06:33] <Alarm> have u tried changing the resolution also from nvidia tool ?
[06:33] <afaith> hello people
[06:34] <Arwen> I don't have nvidia.......
[06:34] <Alarm> add for example in there a new resolution
[06:34] <Alarm> ohh sorry , i didnt pay much attention
[06:34] <Arwen> that's why I said ati screwed my system over..
[06:34] <afaith> i've asked this question on the #mplayer, but no answer :(
[06:34] <afaith>  i've downloaded a movie from youtube and converted into avi file. now i wanna extract the mp3 file from that avi file. i've done a little google job on this and i've discovered this command : mplayer -vo null -nogui -ao pcm audio.wav -aofile movie.avi , but it keeps telling me that -aofile is deprecated and tells me to use -ao pcm:file=<filename> instead. i' confused.. what do you suggest me to do ?
[06:35] <Arwen> afaith, use mencoder
[06:35] <Alarm> Arwen,  could u please paste somewhere your xorg.conf
[06:35] <Arwen> http://pastebin.ca/572315
[06:35] <Arwen> I think fglrx is broken..
[06:35] <afaith> arwen, i'm haven't used mplayer neither mencoder to do such a thinks
[06:36] <afaith> i use mplayer to play the files that vlc doesn't wanna open
[06:36] <Arwen> afaith,.... shut up. If you want to extract the audio, use mencoder. I'm not going to waste more time discussing it
[06:36] <ageroh> Sorry everyone but kubuntu's apt-get or i dont know who invented is GENIUS!
[06:36] <NickPresta> Arwen, using pastebin, post the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and your actual xorg.conf
[06:36] <ageroh> OH GOD!!!!
[06:37] <Arwen> http://pastebin.ca/572316
[06:37] <afaith> hey... arwen, dude, chillout! if you wanna help me, ok if not... thats your problem
[06:37] <Arwen> afaith, sorry, I'm having a lot of problems myself right now
[06:37] <afaith> you don't have to be so ... stiff
[06:37] <afaith> Arwen: tell me more, maybe i can help you
[06:38] <Alarm> Arwen,  did you try to set ur monitor as a generic one ?
[06:38] <Arwen> my monitors are broken. ATI killed them.
[06:38] <Arwen> Alarm, that's an original vanilla xorg.conf
[06:38] <Arwen> unmodified
[06:39] <Alarm> yes, i asked if you set ur monitor as a generic one if it works like that on a proper resolution for you
[06:39] <afaith> dude :| that sucks ... are you sure that ATI killed it ? it might be a problem from the plug or too many volts
[06:39] <Arwen> Alarm, I haven't set up anything
[06:39] <ubuntu__> cand anyone help me with cedega
[06:40] <SenS3> can anyone help me with cedega
[06:40] <NickPresta> Arwen, do you not want your composite extension to be enabled?
[06:40] <SenS3> i have the cvs version
[06:40] <Arwen> NickPresta, no I don't, because I have ATI
[06:40] <Alarm> Arwen,  i dont see either in ur xorg.conf the     HorizSync  VertRefresh   listed. i dont know if that matters
[06:41] <Arwen> Alarm, it doesn't, I have an LCD
[06:42] <SenS3> can i run quake 4 on kubuntu 7?
[06:43] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: yes
[06:43] <SenS3> wine or cedega :) i am a beginner in linux
[06:44] <jtmoney> neither
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: actually, I think there is a native port
[06:44] <SenS3> really :)
[06:44] <ageroh> many many many THANKS to all tou developers OUT THERE for creating such beautiful things!!! Goodbye to all.
[06:44] <crocodile> cedega costs you money..
[06:44] <SenS3> i can compile from cvs
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: yeah, I know there was a port of quake3
[06:45] <afaith> SenS3: you really should try cedege .. even if it's a bit expensive, it's really very good and works with a lot of games
[06:46] <SenS3> can i suffer a loss of framerate
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> SenS3: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/
[06:46] <SenS3> 10x
[06:48] <ChaosMachine> Uh, is there a "Trash" somewhere that I need to empty? I keep deleteing large files and its not making a diffrence on my disk space.
[06:48] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: yes, try ~/.local/trash
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> sorry, ~/.local/share/Trash
[06:49] <kain__> hello i am having problems getting an external hd to mount as well as an sd/mmc card reader
[06:51] <ChaosMachine> There they are, Thank you. :)
[06:51] <nosrednaekim> kain__: is the external HD NTFS?
[06:52] <kain__> it has some files from a win machine on it that i was backing up
[06:52] <ChaosMachine> It still says my hard drive is full, though. >.>
[06:53] <kain__> but i don't think i formatted it... it would mount before i backed up everything from my win desktop to it but i couldn't save files to it now it won't mount at all
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: how did you remove that file?
[06:53] <kain__> but both the ext hd and the sd card reader work on a win machine
[06:53] <ChaosMachine> nosrednaekim: using rm command from the shell.
[06:53] <nosrednaekim> ChaosMachine: ok, cause if you just said delete from konqueror....lol, i'd probably go right back to trash
[06:54] <crocodile> How do I make Kopete show ICQ names instead of numbers?  It says I have to use an address book, the address book setting says its using KAaddressBook, but I dn't see any settings regarding ICQ names
[06:54] <ChaosMachine> Haha, I figured. I think it may have acually worked. Before I didnt have enough space to start firefox. Now I do.
[06:54] <kain__> brb nos
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> kain__: plug it in and then look at the end of "dmesg"
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> ok
[06:54] <Daisuke_Ido> what does disk space have to do with being able to start FF?
[06:55] <Daisuke_Ido> ...not enough space for the disk cache, probably
[06:56] <ChaosMachine> Daisuke_Ido: it creates a few things in /tmp.
[06:56] <kain__> brb
[06:56] <kain__> the end of dmesg?
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> kain__: yes, run that command and look for errors
[06:57] <Daisuke_Ido> that makes sense
[06:57] <crocodile> How do I make Kopete show ICQ names instead of numbers?  It says I have to use an address book, the address book setting says its using KAaddressBook, but I dn't see any settings regarding ICQ names
[06:58] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: #kopete
[06:58] <crocodile> sorry thankks
[06:59] <SenS3> why in my kopete yahoo messenger list it shows only the ids which begin with a?
[06:59] <NickPresta> Daisuke_Ido, for one, your bookmark backups, your session and download data are all modified (and use more space) when you use Firefox. If you have no more disk space, you have a problem...
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> do you have an "a" in the search bar?
[07:01] <SenS3> no
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> got that, didn't really need it elaborated upon, but thanks for playing anyway
[07:01] <SenS3> on other id with less ids i don't have this problem
[07:02] <Pollywog> anyone here run Linux on the same machine as DesktopBSD, I am having trouble because two out of three times, I was unable to boot Linux after installing BSD
[07:02] <Pollywog> I think maybe it is because Linux is in an extended partition
[07:04] <Pollywog> the first time I tried it kubuntu was in a primary partition and I could boot into either OS
[07:04] <draik> How do I play streaming audio with firefox. I keep getting an error
[07:04] <kain__> nos: when the window with "what to do pops up" and i select simpletech ext hd i get this error
[07:04] <kain__> hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[07:04] <Pollywog> draik: mplayer plugin?
[07:05] <Pollywog> but maybe you have codecs missing?
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> kain__: oh....hmm... maybe you don't have permissions?
[07:06] <draik> Pollywog: I have it. Won't play. Let me get you the error message
[07:06] <kain__> ok how would i give myself permissions
[07:06] <kain__> in dmesg i don't see errors
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: Totem could not play 'mms://RadioCasasGrandes2.serverroom.us/xhnvg'.
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: That is the error message I get. Firefox opens Totem and I get that error message
[07:07] <draik> Pollywog: That is the error message I get. Firefox opens Totem and I get that error message
[07:08] <nosrednaekim> kain__: what does dmesg give you?
[07:08] <kain__> hold on let me pastebin it
[07:09] <draik> Pollywog: Can you see if you can play it?
[07:09] <kain__> nos: http://pastebin.com/930765
[07:09] <Pollywog> k
[07:09] <draik> Pollywog: Thank you.
[07:11] <nosrednaekim> kain__: ok run this command "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"
[07:11] <Pollywog> I thought xmms was installed, I am finishing that now
[07:12] <crocodile> is it possible to make audacious/xmms or whatever mp3 player NOT appear in the taskbar when it's open?
[07:12] <draik> Pollywog: You or me? I have XMMS installed.
[07:12] <crocodile> I want to either add play controls to the taskbar, or cllick the quicklaunch link to make it appear
[07:13] <nosrednaekim> crocodile: use amarok, in which case it goes to the, i forget what its called..the panel thats not part ofthe taskbar
[07:14] <kain__> nos: ok entered pass now at command line again
[07:14] <Pollywog> draik it complains I do not have the codec
[07:15] <Pollywog> totem xdoes
[07:15] <Pollywog> totem complains
[07:15] <crocodile> nos - I really dn't like amarok, it's too big and the small player is too ugly (and also doesnt have an open button)
[07:15] <draik> Pollywog: What codec(s) do I need?
[07:16] <Pollywog> now it asked if I want to install a codec and I said yes
[07:16] <draik> What codec?
[07:16] <kain__> nos: don't see it
[07:17] <kain__> kain@kain-laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:17] <kain__> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /mnt busy
[07:17] <kain__> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> kain__: navigate to /mnt
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> well, go to /mnt then
[07:17] <SenS3> crocodile try kaffeine
[07:17] <Pollywog> totem says I do not have permission to open the file
[07:17] <kain__> sats i don't have access rights
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> I have to go... sorry kain__
[07:18] <draik> Pollywog: I found something online with Totem being the issue. Its not about codecs, it's about the transfer of the file from the net.
[07:18] <Pollywog> oic
[07:18] <draik> Pollywog: How do I set mplayer as default over Totem?
[07:18] <Pollywog> draik: kubuntu?
[07:18] <draik> Yes
[07:19] <draik> 6.10
[07:19] <Pollywog> go to Konqueror file associations
[07:19] <kain__> how do i give myself access rights to /mnt
[07:19] <Pollywog> in Konqueror config
[07:19] <Pollywog> and move mplyer up the list for the file type
[07:19] <draik> Pollywog: I'm using firefox <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:19] <Pollywog> oh
[07:19] <Pollywog> I do not recall how to change that in Firefox
[07:20] <SenS3> does somebody use swiftfox
[07:20] <SenS3> ?
[07:20] <draik> Pollywog: Do I just uninstall totem-mozilla?
[07:20] <nostferka> Are creative soundcards supported?
[07:20] <Pollywog> no I think you edit a file in your Firefox config to change the file association
[07:20] <SenS3> yes i have a creative live
[07:20] <voidmage> Where can I configure my touchpad for things like hot corners?
[07:24] <crocodile> how do I disable single click in kopete? (I want double click to open a new message window not double), and how do I have kopete not appear in the taskbar?
[07:25] <crocodile> I mean *not single click
[07:25] <VI_Lenin> Hi people! Can you please tell me if latest kubuntu includes NTFS-3G?
[07:26] <nostferka> how do i access the device manager?
[07:27] <_4str1> nostferka: ?
[07:27] <kain__> he left
[07:32] <papa> hi
[07:33] <Karti> Hi all, are there any graphic disk drive warning software available for Kubuntu? Many thanks
[07:33] <Rami_> I need immediate help
[07:35] <Rami_> i tried to install kubuntu 7.04 by synaptic in original ubuntu 7.04
[07:35] <Rami_> but instead i only got all the applications,
[07:35] <Rami_> i never got KDE
[07:35] <Karti> Rami_: You can install it through the terminal
[07:35] <papa> hi rami - made the same experience
[07:35] <Rami_> how?
[07:35] <Karti> Rami_: something like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:35] <Rami_> ok
[07:35] <Karti> let me look again..
[07:35] <papa> yes!
[07:35] <Rami_> access denied....
[07:35] <papa> i've got a nvidia-graphic-card (sorry my englih)
[07:36] <Karti> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <Karti> You need to do it as root
[07:36] <papa> nvidia 6200 ... isn't supported yet
[07:36] <Rami_> now!
[07:36] <Rami_> :D
[07:36] <Karti> Has that done it?
[07:36] <Rami_> almost
[07:37] <Rami_> -.-
[07:37] <Rami_> i'll just request a CD
[07:37] <Karti> That is how I do it for the Ubuntu server, it actually tells you how.....great eh!
[07:37] <Rami_> :O
[07:37] <Karti> it is about 300Mb
[07:38] <papa> "kubuntu" tells me to install a new nvidia-driver - ... after that i get the message, that it isnt supported
[07:38] <Karti> You should be able to do it from the cd unless it is just a Ubuntu basic disk
[07:38] <Rami_> maybe it was because i chose gdm
[07:38] <Rami_> instead of kdm.....
[07:38] <Rami_> i have the ubuntu disk downstairs
[07:38] <Rami_> you mean that i can install it from there?
[07:38] <Karti> papa: I did the same for my carad. It worked fine, allowed me to use Beryl
[07:39] <Karti> Rami_: Yes, it selects the disk as one of its repositories
[07:39] <Rami_> w8w8w8w8
[07:39] <crocodile> how do I check disk usage?
[07:39] <Rami_> i'm 13 years old and swedish, i dont understand everything. explain it easier thanks:P
[07:39] <Karti> crocodile: df -l me thinks
[07:40] <papa> hmmmm ....
[07:40] <crocodile> seems that someting is using all my space.hm.
[07:40] <Karti> crocodile: do this df -h
[07:41] <Karti> it will give you in in human form i.e MB
[07:41] <crocodile> hehe thanks
[07:41] <Karti> Rami_: have you knome set up?
[07:41] <Karti> oops gnome
[07:41] <crocodile> 6.1 used of 6.5.. man that filled up quickly
[07:41] <Rami_> on where?
[07:41] <Rami_> the cd?
[07:42] <Karti> no your PC
[07:42] <Rami_> yes
[07:42] <Rami_> i'm using gnome
[07:42] <Rami_> for now
[07:42] <Karti> I don't remember well but if you go to add/remove programs
[07:43] <Karti> are you on broadband?
[07:43] <Rami_> no, wireless
[07:43] <Karti> but wireless broadband?
[07:43] <Rami_> but its quite fast
[07:43] <Rami_> yes, kindA
[07:44] <Karti> I would really recommend sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop as it only takes about 5 minutes
[07:44] <Rami_> ok
[07:44] <Karti> I don't have the time to discuss the cd way...as I have to go in a minute
[07:44] <Rami_> me too
[07:44] <crocodile> what can I use to show where the majority of myy space iis being used up?
[07:44] <Rami_> never worked
[07:44] <Karti> Yu can view it visually
[07:45] <Rami_> trying with synaptic while i'm away....
[07:45] <papa> thanks i try again ...  ;-)
[07:45] <Karti> crocodile: System Settings > Advanced > Disk and File Systems
[07:46] <kain__> how do i get access to /mnt
[07:46] <crocodile> karti - whats the kde equivalent?
[07:46] <Karti> kain__: from a terminal type /mnt
[07:46] <crocodile> er nvm
[07:48] <kain__> how do i get it permenantly
[07:48] <kain__> like through the GUI
[07:48] <kain__> i am the only user on this pc
[07:48] <Rami_> i'm requestong a CD instead.
[07:48] <kain__> can i just be root all the time
[07:48] <Karti> just open Konqueror and view /mnt
[07:49] <Karti> The whole security issue is that you only use root to do stuff not use it in normal use
[07:49] <kain__> ok
[07:49] <Karti> crocodile: konsole
[07:50] <Rami_> nah, i have the CD downstairs, reinstalling when i get home,
[07:50] <kain__> when i view mnt it says i don't have access rights
[07:50] <kain__> through konqueror
[07:51] <crocodile> I found all my space...
[07:51] <crocodile> .xsession-errors is over 3 gigs big
[07:51] <Rami_> bye!
[07:51] <Karti> You should be able to see it....does your cdrom not automount?
[07:53] <Karti> Must dash....see you later
[07:55] <Arwen> in a dual-head setup, is it possible to get different wallpapers on each head?
[07:56] <crocodile> guys .xsession-errors in my home dir is 3.3 gigs big
[07:56] <crocodile> I need it a) gone and b) to see why
[07:56] <Arwen> crocodile, to see why, run "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[07:57] <Arwen> to get rid of it, "rm -f ~/.xsession-errors"
[07:57] <crocodile> the weird thing is I rm- f'd it already
[07:58] <crocodile> I'll try a logout
[07:58] <Arwen> crocodile, it gets regenerated at logon
[07:58] <Arwen> crocodile, you need to fix what's causing 3.3gb worth of errors
[07:58] <crocodile> indeed
[07:58] <crocodile> that's next step once I see if it's gone in a minute
[07:58] <crocodile> brb
[08:01] <bjwebb> hello?
[08:01] <sully> hallo
[08:01] <bjwebb> yay
[08:01] <bjwebb> my internet works :D
[08:01] <bjwebb> stupid winmodem is finally doing something
[08:01] <bjwebb> eciadsl :S
[08:02] <sully> eine frag kennt ihr euch aus ? wi e bekomme ich java in firefox?
[08:03] <Dannilion> I wish my internet would work
[08:03] <bjwebb> but my konqueror is not working :S
[08:04] <Dannilion> Anyone got a SymbianOS phone to work with Kubuntu before for net access?
[08:06] <deichgraf> re
[08:07] <bjwebb> how do i login to IRC using my password protected user name on Konversation?
[08:09] <bjwebb> ?
[08:09] <Dragnslcr> There should be settings for nickserv identification
[08:09] <bjwebb> im just not sure where they are
[08:11] <Dragnslcr> It's part of the Identity settings
[08:11] <bjwebb> autoidentify?
[08:11] <Sanne> bjwebb: file->server list, edit freenode server, edit default identity, there you can put in the nickserv password.
[08:11] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[08:12] <Dragnslcr> Service is usually "nickserv"
[08:12] <arkanabar> Anyone know if the Nvidia 1.0-9639 64 bit binary supports the GeForce 7100GS GPU?
[08:12] <bjwebb> doesn't seem to be working
[08:13] <crocodile> whatever caused 3 gigs of X error logs was fixed by a reboot
[08:14] <Sanne> arkanabar: here's the readme, find Appendix A for a list of cards: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9639/README/README.txt
[08:16] <crocodile> in this screenshoot: http://www.winboard.org/forum/imagehosting/10482452b9130e353c.png  the lower right screen has all those system stats, what does that?
[08:17] <arkanabar> Sanne:  GeForce 7100 isn't in either list.
[08:18] <bjwebb> hi, anyone here able to help me with eciadsl?
[08:18] <ntskoeln> crocodile: superkaramba
[08:19] <Sanne> arkanabar: then I don't know, sorry
[08:20] <crocodile> awesome thanks nts
[08:22] <Arwen> gah, xinerama is fugly
[08:22] <Sick2Deaf> oh yes ^
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> I spent ages setting up dual monitor with an ati card
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> never buying ati again
[08:23] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah... and I get the feeling one of my displays is *still* using the wrong AR
[08:23] <Sick2Deaf> I had a few problems with refresh rates but that was my own fault
[08:24] <Arwen> my refresh rate is locked at 34Hz... I wonder why..
[08:24] <Sick2Deaf> tux racer displays on both monitors and stretches 1024x768 on my 1440x900 :s
[08:25] <Arwen> I won't even try games... 2560x1024 will kill my system
[08:26] <Sick2Deaf> Thats why i kept my xp partition :P
[08:26] <nitro4ce> hi
[08:26] <nitro4ce> i need some help with advancemenu
[08:26] <nitro4ce> i can't start it
[08:27] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah, dual-head works great in Windows... *mumble* fscking ati *mumble*
[08:28] <crocodile> why oh why wouldn't they put an 'open' button in amarok mini
[08:29] <Sick2Deaf> I have mates with intel and nvidia chipsets and theres worked fine :@
[08:29] <Sick2Deaf> it took me a week
[08:30] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeh, I had to revert from fglrx back to radeon... and so I only have direct rendering on the first 2048x2048 pixels..
[08:30] <Arwen> and my refresh rate still sucks
[08:30] <Sick2Deaf> ow
[08:31] <Sick2Deaf> I'm using fglrx atm
[08:31] <Sick2Deaf> It works . . . for now
[08:31] <Arwen> yeh, so now I have my extra screen space... only 3d doesn't work and windows spawn in weird places
[08:32] <Sick2Deaf> haha
[08:32] <Sick2Deaf> same
[08:33] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah... and I'd like to be able to use separate wallpapers on each head... only that doesn't seem to work
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> Alot of the programs I have installed seem to draw the window realtive to the screen so i get some very strange looking apps
[08:33] <Arwen> so I'm manually editing and gluing stuff together
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> I have a bit of a work around for that
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> ye thats what i do :P
[08:33] <Sick2Deaf> works a charm
[08:33] <Arwen> Sick2Deaf, yeah, only... GIMP doesn't spawn right either :-P
[08:33] <Arwen> go figure?
[08:35] <tino_> hi
[08:35] <arkanabar> None of my OpenGL screensavers work.
[08:35] <bob_> hey
[08:35] <tino_> ci sono italiani , ho bisogno di fare domande a qualcuno che mi capisce
[08:36] <bob_> arkanabar, open a konsole and type glxgears
[08:36] <Arwen> arkanabar, do you have 3d rendering?
[08:36] <arkanabar> Arwen, I have no idea how to find out.
[08:36] <bob_> arkanabar, open a konsole and type glxgears
[08:36] <arkanabar> bob_, got "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"."
[08:37] <bob_> ok, what's ur vid card?
[08:37] <arkanabar> Geforce 7100
[08:37] <bob_> ok
[08:37] <bob_> open Adept
[08:37] <Arwen> arkanabar, you need to install some drivers then
[08:38] <bob_> and type nvidia-glx-new
[08:38] <Sick2Deaf> tea time
[08:38] <bob_> on the search field
[08:38] <arkanabar> bob_, no results -- I'm running 64bit, btw.
[08:39] <bob_> no worries thatls what Im running here
[08:39] <bob_> u need to enable the universe repos
[08:40] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[08:40] <bob_> once Adept is running
[08:40] <arkanabar> I have show checked next to both unsupported and proprietary
[08:40] <bob_> did you edit your sources.list?
[08:40] <arkanabar> Don't think so..... how would I do that?
[08:41] <bob_> never mind just asking
[08:41] <bob_> so, u r telling us that if u type nvidia on adept nothing comes as results?
[08:42] <arkanabar> multimedia:  Nvtv TV Out.  System:  NVidia binary X.Org driver (checked)
[08:42] <bob_> is that all?
[08:43] <arkanabar> ......... System:  NVidia binary X.Org 'legacy' driver.  And that's it.
[08:43] <bob_> humm
[08:43] <bob_> gimme a sec
[08:44] <bob_> r u running Feisty?
[08:44] <arkanabar> Yes.
[08:44] <bob_> k
[08:44] <arkanabar> Pretty much virgin install, at that.
[08:44] <crocodile> aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:45] <bob_> make sure that the Restricted repos are enabled
[08:45] <bob_> within Adept, click on "Adept" on the upper left corner
[08:45] <arkanabar> How do I do that, again?  Still very new to Ubuntu....
[08:45] <bob_> and choose Manage Repositories
[08:45] <bob_> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[08:46] <arkanabar> kubuntu.  And the only thing in the Adept menu in UL corner is "quit"
[08:46] <bob_> ok, lets do sumthing
[08:47] <bob_> open a konsole
[08:47] <bob_> and type
[08:47] <WilHelm-> I'm playing.  !gameinfo for more info.
[08:48] <bob_> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <crocodile> why dont you just have him aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:48] <bob_> and remove the # sign from the lines that start with the word "deb"
[08:48] <crocodile> if it shows up he's goodto go
[08:49] <bob_> because the restricted repo is no enabled
[08:49] <bob_> jhe will find nthing
[08:49] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[08:49] <bob_> nothing*
[08:49] <Arwen> aww.... xinerama won't let me play video on both heads at once..
[08:50] <arkanabar> bob_, as far as I can tell, only the backport repos are commented out.
[08:50] <crocodile> type aptitude search nvidia-glx
[08:51] <bob_> he needs the "new" one
[08:51] <kristjan_> How do I traceroute?
[08:51] <crocodile> type traceroute host ^_^
[08:51] <bob_> on Adept if he types nvidia only the legacy driver will show up
[08:52] <bene> whats the command to check your graphics card
[08:52] <arkanabar> bob_, I get both the legacy and the current xorg drivers -- current is installed.
[08:52] <namelesss> hi
[08:52] <namelesss> how can i install the kde desktop ?
[08:52] <namelesss> i'm under gnome
[08:52] <arkanabar> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[08:52] <arkanabar> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty multiverse
[08:52] <crocodile> arkanabor - type sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[08:53] <crocodile> arkanabor - type sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:53] <Arwen> namelesss, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:53] <Arwen> or apt-get install kde-core
[08:53] <arkanabar> are both uncommented...
[08:53] <namelesss> Arwen, but i don't want all utilities
[08:53] <bene> what he said
[08:53] <Arwen> namelesss, then apt-get install kde-core
[08:53] <arkanabar> crocodile, will that work with feisty 64?
[08:53] <namelesss> ok
[08:53] <namelesss> thx
[08:53] <crocodile> ark - u can answer it by trying
[08:53] <bob_> ok, do me a favor arkanabar, in the konsole type, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell us the info displayed under "Device"
[08:53] <bene> whats the command to check your graphics card
[08:54] <Arwen> bene, there isn't one. But you can usually figure it out using lspci.
[08:54] <crocodile> arkanabar:   maybe not.. don't risk it for a minute
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> hello all
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> this line
[08:55] <DarkWizzard>   connect(tableWid,SIGNAL(cellChanged(int,int)),this,SLOT(saveSchedule()));
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> does it mean
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> that if any cell will change
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> I mean content of any cell
[08:55] <DarkWizzard> then the signal will get emited ?
[08:56] <arkanabar> !pastebin > arkanabar
[08:57] <arkanabar> info under device at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26006/
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> DarkWizzard: the hex are you talking about?
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> what hex ?
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> connect(tableWid,SIGNAL(cellChanged(int,int)),this,SLOT(saveSchedule()));
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> this line
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> so
[08:57] <DarkWizzard> if
[08:58] <bob_> ok, replace "nv" by "nvidia" and save the file
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> right, i GOT that.  in WHAT?
[08:58] <pagan0ne> has anyone ever managed to get a package stuck in a state 1/2 way between installed and uninstalled in such a manner that it wont do either properly?
[08:58] <bob_> it should work
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> Any cell changes in a QTableWidget then will that signal get emited ?
[08:58] <arkanabar> lemme log & restart X
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> heck > hecks > hex.  i was being clever.
[08:58] <Arwen> pagan0ne, me
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> better to ask in #kde, we aren't devs.
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> oh :D
[08:58] <DarkWizzard> ok
[08:59] <Arwen> manually installing packages tends to cause that
[08:59] <pagan0ne> Arwen: how did you fixi t?
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> wrong channel again
[08:59] <Arwen> pagan0ne, dpkg -rf
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> this always happens
[08:59] <DarkWizzard> sorry
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> DarkWizzard: no worries
[08:59] <Daisuke_Ido> just had me a little confused
[08:59] <Arwen> pagan0ne, dpkg -r*
[08:59] <pagan0ne> Arwen: well i wouldnt have been manually installing the package except that ubuntu doesnt come with support for brother printers out of the box, and brother does provide debian packages
[09:00] <Arwen> pagan0ne, can you explain the level of b0rk4ge in your setup?
[09:00] <pagan0ne> Arwen: well its broke to the point where even dpkg -r and dpkg -r --force-all wont remove the package, i can do a pastbin of the output if you like
[09:01] <Arwen> pagan0ne, please do. Also, how many packages? any dependencies involved?
[09:01] <pagan0ne> Arwen: just one package, and no deps that i know of
[09:01] <xst> When kubuntu is installed for the first time, an xorg.conf file is automatically generated. How can I regenerate this after the install? (I want to completely display reset all changes I have made)
[09:01] <pagan0ne> Arwen: brscan2 its a package supplied by Brother
[09:01] <Arwen> pagan0ne, paste?
[09:02] <pagan0ne> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/572574
[09:02] <Arwen> one sec then
[09:03] <bob_> paganOne try typing on the konsole sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[09:03] <pagan0ne> bob_ tried that
[09:04] <Arwen> pagan0ne, hmm, you could just create the files/dirs that apt can't find. then it might work.
[09:04] <pagan0ne> Arwen: i tried that too
[09:05] <bob_> arkanabar, how was the result?
[09:05] <_Shade_> hey why i can't use my country specific chars in kubuntu?
[09:06] <_Shade_> I had these some time ago but they dissapeared when i installed an xgl
[09:06] <Arwen> sorry, xinerama b0rk3d on me
[09:07] <_Shade_> i don't use it now but i am still unable to use these fonts
[09:07] <arkanabar> Well, I got the nvidia splash screen
[09:07] <bob_> perfect
[09:07] <kcg> hey there, i have just installed feisty agiain and there was an update on the kernel to 2.6.20-16 from 2.6.20-15
[09:08] <pagan0ne> Arwen: sok, no luck on touching all the missing files... i tried reinstalling over the orignal missing package, and it installs successfully over it, but still wont remove it
[09:08] <kcg> from the previous experience, there was a conflict when i updated the kernel last time
[09:08] <Arwen> pagan0ne, hmm
[09:08] <Arwen> no idea then, you could try asking #debian
[09:09] <kcg> and kubuntu didn't start at all, so wondering if anyone experienced the same problem at all
[09:10] <bob_> do you have acceleration already arkanabar?
[09:13] <pagan0ne> bob_ got it fixed, the method of mkdir and touching files fixed it, i just forgot to touch one file it wanted
[09:13] <seckshooal> I can't find the program using dpkg to shut it down. Now I can't run anything using the pacakge manager, what should I do?
[09:16] <NickPresta> seckshooal, use `ps aux` and try and find the process that would be using it.
[09:19] <rollerskatejamms> How can I create a "folder" on the desktop in KDE that is actually a link to an FTP server
[09:19] <rollerskatejamms> Like in gnome I can access ftp as if it were on my local machine
[09:21] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, Right click on Desktop > Create New > Link to Location (URL). Fill in your FTP url and it should work just fine.
[09:21] <rollerskatejamms> NickPresta: tried that. it wont let me click ok
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> NickPresta: I dont want to link to a specific file
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> oh wait
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> i think i know what didnt work
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> yup
[09:22] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, the filename is just what you want the icon to be named
[09:22] <rollerskatejamms> Yeah thats  the mistake I made
[09:23] <rollerskatejamms> Works fine now, thanks!
[09:23] <NickPresta> rollerskatejamms, oh, no problem. I'm glad you got it working :)
[09:24] <arkanabar> oop, sorry, bob_ ... not sure.  The bitmap flag is kind of steppy-looking.
[09:24] <rollerskatejamms> I'm slowly learning Ruby, but I'm never in once place for very long, so I just mount FTP "folders" and work on my code that way
[09:25] <sweettooth> does anyone have any problem upgrading the kernel from 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16?
[09:25] <ICM> Ugh, so basically I just installed Kubuntu on my IDE drive, which is the only one on the IDE Chain and I have Windows installed on a 120 GB SATA drive (the first partition)... basically I can't get GRUB to load from the IDE device, and the IDE device doesn't even show up in the BIOS, so how do I make my 10 GB IDE device with Linux boot up? I just tried booting the Kubuntu installer's LiveCD but for some reason when I try doing anything in
[09:25] <ICM> (like the 'check CD for errors' or the 'Start or Install Kubuntu') I get a terminal-type-thing saying "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a full list of built-in commands.    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off.
[09:25] <ICM> (sorry for the really long message)
[09:26] <NickPresta> sweettooth, no. I am using the latest kernel without any problems. The upgrade was successful.
[09:27] <sweettooth> NickPresta, hmm, ok, I will give it a shot again now and check if its ok
[09:27] <arkanabar> So how do I tell if I have 3d acceleration enabled?
[09:28] <NickPresta> sweettooth, what seems to be the problem?
[09:28] <ICM> And I not just an hour ago installed Linux using this Kubuntu CD, so
[09:28] <NickPresta> arkanabar, `glxinfo | grep direct`. You type that into a console.
[09:29] <NickPresta> arkanabar, if direct rendering = yes, you're good
[09:29] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I have tried install it before and after the update, it gave me some sort of update conflict, and when i restarted the pc, it was hung
[09:29] <NickPresta> sweettooth, I didn't have any problems. I don't know what could've caused yours. What was the conflict with?
[09:29] <sweettooth> NickPresta, since i didn't know how to roll back, i have just reinstalled kubuntu for the 2nd time
[09:30] <dc2448> Is there any reason not to run kpowersave on non laptops - I'm wanting my mythtv box to suspend when the power button is hit and resume when in suspend - kpowersave the way to go?
[09:31] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I forgot what it was conflicting with, but i will give it a second shot and see if it could update, btw, did you use Adept Updater to install the 2.6.20-16 kernel?
[09:31] <NickPresta> sweettooth, I use the console: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` to upgrade my system. The kernel update was one update available
[09:32] <ICM> IF anybody cares to help me, I'll be around
[09:33] <dsmith_> whats the preferred folder for backup?
[09:33] <dsmith_>    /home, /etc, /opt ??
[09:33] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I will try your way and see if it works first
[09:33] <sweettooth> thx a lot
[09:35] <dc2448> dsmith_: someprotocol://offiste/folder
[09:35] <rollerskatejamms> What do I change to change the window border style? I'm already using the Klearlook style but the window borders still look like plastik
[09:36] <dsmith_> dc2448: Opps, I meant. what are the preferred partitions to backup when moving to one to another
[09:36] <Lynoure> dsmith_: all that have data that you would be sad about losing...
[09:37] <phillip> hi
[09:37] <Lynoure> dsmith_: hard to say without knowing your system and what you use it for
[09:37] <dsmith_> Lynoure: ok, genrally speaking though, I am sure /home would be a good start
[09:38] <dsmith_> last time I tried this it farked the other system
[09:38] <dsmith_> I did /home, /var, /etc, /opt and a few others
[09:39] <phillip> i want to install gconf-common 2.16.0 - but kubuntu wants to install >> version <IP_ADDRESS> - how can I fix this problem
[09:39] <phillip> ?
[09:40] <Lynoure> dsmith_: sounds like enough for most people. I'm usually happy enough with /home and /etc on desktops, but I don't run databases on them or logs I need to keep, and usually not custom built software in /opt either
[09:42] <PABLO-VIVA> hello
[09:42] <dsmith_> Lynoure: ok, thanks. I install sbackup and it does /etc, /var, /home and /usr/local
[09:42] <phillip> i want to install gconf-common 2.16.0 - but kubuntu wants to install >> version <IP_ADDRESS> - how can I fix this problem?
[09:42] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[09:43] <PABLO-VIVA> Hi I'm Pablo from Argentina I was wondering where I could search if a bug already exists or otherwise report it
[09:43] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, i am sure the web is a better place to report a bug
[09:43] <ICM> Bah, no one here is helping
[09:43] <wolferine> ICM, issue?
[09:43] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: thanks but I could not find the webaddress of the kubuntu bugs reporting system
[09:44] <ICM> wolferine, its probably more of a hardware issue, but I installed Linux on a drive, and now the drive isn't showing up in the BIOS
[09:44] <ICM> Ugh, so basically I just installed Kubuntu on my IDE drive, which is the only one on the IDE Chain and I have Windows installed on a 120 GB SATA drive (the first partition)... basically I can't get GRUB to load from the IDE device, and the IDE device doesn't even show up in the BIOS, so how do I make my 10 GB IDE device with Linux boot up? I just tried booting the Kubuntu installer's LiveCD but for some reason when I try doing anything in
[09:44] <ICM> (like the 'check CD for errors' or the 'Start or Install Kubuntu') I get a terminal-type-thing saying "BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built-in shell (ash) Enter 'help for a full list of built-in commands.    /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off.
[09:44] <dsmith_> ICM: There are some really great books on Ubuntu
[09:44] <wolferine> its probably application specific though PABLO
[09:44] <dsmith_> ICM: I had that happen to me once before
[09:44] <ICM> Which? The HDD not showing up in the BIOS or the no tty thing happening in the LiveCD
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: I had to reinstall everything, unfortunately, but I used a live CD to pull everything off
[09:45] <wolferine> if its a KDE bug, your usually prompted to submit it
[09:45] <froud> I've installed evrything I can to try play SVCD but nothing helps. Anyone got some pointers?
[09:45] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I thought that was the case, but this relates to KDE in Kubuntu Feisty Fawn I did not have these problems in other linux distributiosn with KDE
[09:45] <ICM> O_o
[09:45] <ICM> But what about the problem of it not showing up in the BIOS
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: the busyb ox deal, my machine would not bot
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: the busyb ox deal, my machine would not botbot
[09:45] <dsmith_> ICM: boot
[09:45] <ICM> heh
[09:45] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, could you give a quick description of the bug?
[09:45] <ICM> Thats only with the LiveCD
[09:45] <ICM> I can't get it to boot into Ubuntu at all
[09:46] <ICM> just because the BIOS doesn't see the hdd
[09:46] <dsmith_> even on live cD?
[09:46] <ICM> correct, its with the live CD that I have the BusyBox error
[09:46] <dsmith_> strange
[09:46] <ICM> the LiveCD I used not two hours ago, too
[09:46] <ICM> its the Kubuntu Installer
[09:46] <wolferine> ICM
[09:46] <wolferine> so you installed linux
[09:46] <ICM> yes
[09:47] <wolferine> then your HD was missing in your BIOS?
[09:47] <ICM> yes
[09:47] <wolferine> those two events are unrelated
[09:47] <ICM> Thats what I was thinking
[09:47] <wolferine> pullout/reseed your IDE cables
[09:47] <ICM> its still really odd
[09:47] <ICM> okay
[09:47] <wolferine> and try a reboot
[09:47] <dsmith_> reseed, heh
[09:47] <PABLO-VIVA> well yeah
[09:48] <wolferine> PABLO?
[09:48] <PABLO-VIVA> The issue is this: in KDE in system tray yoou have all the virtual desktops displayed (defaulta are 4) but when I go to add new virtual desktops KDE shows I have only 1, and If I add three more in system tray apperas 16
[09:48] <joe4288> what do i need to download to beable to listen to all my windows music?
[09:48] <joe4288> like a windows codec?
[09:48] <erichj> real quick, how much ram is being used right now on your systems and how much is free?
[09:48] <wolferine> PABLO are you running beryl?
[09:48] <PABLO-VIVA> yeah
[09:49] <wolferine> its not a bug then
[09:49] <PABLO-VIVA> but it happens without beryl too
[09:49] <wolferine> oh?
[09:49] <wolferine> joe4288, google ubuntu guide
[09:49] <wolferine> joe, check the Edgy one, has a section on adding the proper codecs
[09:49] <joe4288> koo will do
[09:49] <wolferine> PABLO, no one else has this issue though
[09:49] <joe4288> but i think im running fiesty? (use to debian)
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: what do you mean by a windows codec?
[09:50] <wolferine> erichj, free
[09:50] <wolferine> joe4288, just read the Edgy documenation
[09:50] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I know I've been googling for this issue but I found nothing, I'll try again without beryl
[09:50] <joe4288> just codecs that let me run windows videos (i think wmv) stuff like that
[09:50] <ICM> sadly that didn't work
[09:50] <wolferine> implementation is the same for both FF and Edgy
[09:50] <PABLO-VIVA> and I'll let you know
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: ya
[09:50] <coreymon77> joe4288: i believe so
[09:50] <ICM> Although this I think defies logic
[09:50] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, is the beryl-manager always running?
[09:50] <ICM> I'm going to make the drive slave.
[09:51] <ICM> IT could be so stupid, it works
[09:51] <erichj> i just rebooted and system monitor is already showing 833MB of ram in use. wtf
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> I made a symlink to .kde/Autostart
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> of my beryl-manager
[09:51] <wolferine> so its running all the time?
[09:51] <wolferine> maybe quit the manager, then see about adding desktops
[09:51] <PABLO-VIVA> yeah, but I'll try to remove the symlink and restart KDM
[09:51] <wolferine> PABLO-VIVA, also try #ubuntu-effects
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> ok thanks a lot
[09:52] <wolferine> might have something to do with your cards drivers/KDE/Beryl
[09:52] <wolferine> but I am not 100% positive
[09:52] <NickPresta> erichj, memory relocation is expensive. You probably needed that memory for a brief moment - when you need it again, it will be freed up...
[09:52] <phillip_> hi
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> thanks again wolferine
[09:52] <wolferine> erichj, you can use top
[09:52] <wolferine> it will display used resources
[09:52] <wolferine> np PABLO
[09:52] <PABLO-VIVA> I'll try that and I'll be back in a minute
[09:53] <NickPresta> erichj, you will also want to check out `free` which shows how much memory is cached, how much in the buffers, etc
[09:53] <erichj> if i run sudo apt-get remove ruby will it tell me what application is depending on it?
[09:53] <wolferine> erichj, use aptitude
[09:54] <phillip_> hello, I'm new to ubuntu. I want to install gconf-common (version 2.16.0) but the apt-get-tool want's to install version 2.18.x. how can I fix this problem
[09:54] <phillip_> ?
[09:54] <NickPresta> erichj, use `apt-cache showpkg ruby` to see reverse dependencies
[09:54] <erichj> ok, amarok uses ruby
[09:54] <Arwen> NickPresta, or just apt-cache rdepends ...
[09:54] <NickPresta> Arwen, that works too. Thanks for reminding me.
[09:54] <damageDOne> Hi guys, I was wondering if anyone knows how I can install kde themes in gnome so that kde apps like amarok are affected. In my case, I have ubuntustudio installed on gnome and amarok sticks out like a sore thumb. If I find a similar theme for kde can I install it so it affects kde apps? And if so, can someone tell me how?
[09:55] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[09:55] <wolferine> phillip, its called synaptic, in Gnome
[09:55] <wolferine> you can update to different versions, you can try via command line
[09:55] <Arwen> damageDOne, no, because KDE uses QT and GNOME uses GTK+
[09:55] <phillip_> wolferine: I'm using kde
[09:56] <wolferine> u said new to ubuntu, so I assumed
[09:56] <wolferine> but none the less, try to install via cli
[09:56] <BluesKaj> philip_ , usually the higher the version the number the newerand more suited to the kernel version you are using , unless there are some things lacking in the new app that older version provides.
[09:56] <damageDOne> Arwen: Yeah but can I install a kde theme in Qt and have it affect kde apps while I'm in gnome?
[09:56] <blekos> hi, i could really nead ur help, i tried to install the new nvidia driver and i messed up my system
[09:57] <blekos> i've used the envy utility, but now
[09:57] <blekos> only one core is recognized i think
[09:57] <blekos> how can i check it out
[09:57] <Arwen> damageDOne, yes
[09:57] <damageDOne> phillip_: Is it possible you read the advice that was for me and came here by mistake?
[09:57] <blekos> is there a way to restore the "default" kernel??/
[09:57] <Arwen> damageDOne, oh, but if it's a kwin theme, then no
[09:57] <damageDOne> Arwen: Okay. I have installed Qt but I don't see an "add theme" button or anything. How do you install new themes?
[09:58] <Arwen> damageDOne, you need kcontrol
[09:58] <Arwen> or qtconfig
[09:58] <damageDOne> Arwen: I guess I can install those in synaptic.
[09:58] <damageDOne> ?
[09:58] <Arwen> yeah, kcontrol is the entire control panel. qt3-qtconfig should let you tweak qt
[09:58] <BluesKaj> blekos, dump envy if your using feisty ...it's not satble and it breaks drivers for nvidia and ati both
[09:58] <damageDOne> Arwen: You say "kwin". Kwin as opposed to...?
[09:59] <Arwen> metacity. kwin themes would be window borders.
[09:59] <darkrift> anyone know how to use turboprint?
[09:59] <darkrift> i downloaded it cause it had my printer support
[09:59] <darkrift> but cant figure it out
[09:59] <blekos> hm, envy is the only reason i have a graphical environment for now
[09:59] <blekos> if i restart my pc i come back 2 zero
[09:59] <blekos> any suggestions?
[09:59] <damageDOne> Arwen: Ah. No worries. They wouldn't work anyway becuase I'm using Beryl. :)
[10:00] <Arwen> hehe, I can't use beryl since I have a dualhead setup :-\
[10:00] <Arwen> and ati.
[10:00] <darkrift> beryl is awesome
[10:00] <damageDOne> Arwen: I don't know about the dual head bit but I'm using Beryl and I have an ATI Radeon X1600. It works with xgl.
[10:00] <Arwen> yeah, but you can't use beryl with ati :-(
[10:01] <Arwen> damageDOne, I can only get direct rendering on the first head..
[10:01] <PABLO-VIVA> Hi again
[10:01] <damageDOne> Arwen: I am using Beryl with ATI
[10:01] <damageDOne> Arwen: Ah okay.
[10:01] <Arwen> damageDOne, yeah, but with Xgl.  Seriously. I'm not trying to argue I just don't know what you mean. It works well for me.
[10:02] <dsmith_> ATI sux0rs
[10:02] <coreymon77> use nvidia
[10:03] <crdlb> use intel
[10:03] <Arwen> damageDOne, it eats assloads of CPU time, has a huge memory footprint, and doesn't allow direct rendering.
[10:03] <dsmith_> NVidia Rox0rs my Box0rs
[10:03] <Arwen> that help?
[10:03] <coreymon77> dsmith_: thats enough
[10:03] <damageDOne> Arwen: I can't rip the card of my laptop that easily. When I upgrade I'll go with nvidia.
[10:03] <dsmith_> assloads... haha
[10:03] <Arwen> damageDOne, heh
[10:03] <damageDOne> Arwen: Yes it does. Thanks
[10:03] <blekos> is there a way to reinstall kernel?
[10:03] <Arwen> blekos, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r` ?
[10:04] <Arwen> why?
[10:04] <PABLO-VIVA> wolferine: I tried without beryl and the desktop works fine, that was the problem
[10:04] <damageDOne> Arwen: Thanks for your help I'll try installing qt3-qtconfig or kcontrol or whatever and see if that helps. Cheers. :)
[10:04] <wolferine> ah
[10:04] <wolferine> cool
[10:05] <PABLO-VIVA> yeap I'll have to get used to it if I want to use beryl with my Kubuntu
[10:05] <PABLO-VIVA> :)
[10:05] <Cyrano> hi
[10:05] <Cyrano> what is the best dictionary solution for kubuntu
[10:05] <arkanabar> Ai yi yi!  I have nasty noises coming out of my headphones!
[10:05] <Cyrano> is there better english dictionaries than stardict?
[10:06] <Cyrano> are there
[10:06] <Cyrano> :)
[10:06] <Cyrano> pardon me
[10:06] <k3ks> hi, i've got a problem with the internet connection
[10:06] <Cyrano> i cant find what retronym mean in stardict
[10:06] <Cyrano> retronym?
[10:06] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks what is the problem?
[10:06] <arkanabar> retro = old, nym = name.
[10:07] <k3ks> if i visit a page two or more times with only short breaks, he laags
[10:07] <k3ks> he takes loooong time for loading it
[10:07] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: are you using konqueror?
[10:07] <blekos> could u tell me the command to configure the monitor
[10:07] <k3ks> no normaly i use firefox
[10:07] <k3ks> but i got the problem with konqueror too
[10:07] <Grant> are the OpenGL development files installed with Kubuntu?
[10:07] <k3ks> and with opera
[10:08] <WilHelm-> I'm back !!
[10:08] <erichj> where do i go to change the mouse theme?
[10:08] <PABLO-VIVA> have you tried using ping and traceroute to see how long do you take to visit a websiete?
[10:08] <arkanabar> I get really loud clicky-buzzy noises, sort of remind me of a rotary dialer, out of my onboard sound, using Feisty 64.  Anyone have a clue?
[10:09] <crube> I have a huge amount of .jpg files that for some reason no longer have .jpg in the end of the file name. Is there a way to rename a pile of files and add ".jpg" to the end of every one of them
[10:09] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I often have trouble with my internet provider but it's not kubuntu or any linux distro is the provider in fact
[10:09] <wolferine> [127223.921131]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e059 <keycode>' to make it known. <-- how do I get rid of these types of lines in dmesg?
[10:09] <k3ks> in firefox he says the server is not reachable and konqueror says he has a timeout
[10:09] <coreymon77> k3ks: wireless?
[10:09] <k3ks> but i didn't heard that my brother or parents have problems like that
[10:09] <k3ks> no
[10:09] <k3ks> ethernet
[10:09] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: open a console and type ping <<url>> and see if the server answers you
[10:10] <k3ks> ~413ms
[10:11] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: any packet loos?
[10:11] <PABLO-VIVA> loss?
[10:11] <k3ks> 16%
[10:11] <ICM> wheee
[10:11] <ICM> thanks.
[10:11] <ICM> I gues
[10:11] <rollerskatejamms> Is there a good way to tell where Disk IO is coming from?
[10:12] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: is it always like that? always having trouble with your internet connection?
[10:13] <k3ks> PABLO-VIVA: yes
[10:13] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:13] <BongoBoy> hi all
[10:13] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I do not have idea on what's going on
[10:13] <k3ks> always if i trie toload a page twotimes quickly reapeated
[10:14] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: is it always with the same page or different pages?
[10:14] <k3ks> with every pages
[10:15] <rollerskatejamms> every time I open Konqueror my disk IO goes through the roof. wtf.
[10:15] <rollerskatejamms> any idea why
[10:16] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks:  hmmm open up a console and type traceroute <<url>> and see where does it stop reaching the pages, maybe the problem is in your internet provider's side
[10:16] <k3ks> k
[10:16] <wolferine> is that a permissions issue, do you think?
[10:16] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I'm sorry is traceroute6 the command
[10:16] <k3ks> k
[10:17] <k3ks> one second
[10:17] <crube> I have a huge amount of .jpg files that for some reason no longer have .jpg in the end of the file name. Is there a way to rename a pile of files and add ".jpg" to the end of every one of them
[10:17] <xst> Is it possible to make kwalletmanager *not* ask for a password when an application tries to access it? I would like it to be open always
[10:17] <wolferine> crube try bash scripting
[10:18] <crube> wolferine: I just dont know how to
[10:18] <wolferine> yes
[10:18] <wolferine> thats why you learn
[10:19] <k3ks> tracerout say unknown host
[10:19] <k3ks> but i can ping the host
[10:19] <k3ks> he also doesn't like the ip
[10:19] <k3ks> wierd
[10:19] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks:  hmmm dunno what's the problem
[10:19] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: it really is
[10:20] <darkrift> %M
[10:20] <yeniklasor> sudo ./xxx  Don't working. How can I work with root
[10:20] <k3ks> mabey it solves itself after a time
[10:20] <darkrift> su
[10:21] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: I've tried myself doing a traceroute6 and I get what you get Unknown host
[10:21] <yeniklasor> execute xxx
[10:21] <crube> wolferine: I didn't have to. Krename did the trick
[10:21] <darkrift> su to root and then run it
[10:21] <k3ks> k
[10:21] <k3ks> thx for your helt
[10:22] <k3ks> help
[10:22] <yeniklasor> su: Authentication failure
[10:22] <k3ks> i have to go
[10:22] <k3ks> cya
[10:22] <PABLO-VIVA> k3ks: no problem
[10:22] <darkrift> su <root account name>
[10:22] <darkrift> then enter password
[10:22] <yeniklasor> oh OK
[10:23] <NickPresta> Why do you suggest su into root account and then running around as root? Why not use sudo for everything? god forbid you make a mistake when using rm or something
[10:23] <darkrift> because he said sudo wasnt working
[10:23] <darkrift> is there a better alternative?
[10:23] <darkrift> if so, please advise
[10:23] <wolferine> anyone, the nfs question?
[10:23] <darkrift> i saw nobody else chime in
[10:25] <ariane> hi. i just installed KDE on my ubuntu (i was with gnome before) and it is kind of buggy. sometimes, when i boot, i get all kind of error messages and they disappear so fast i can't even read them. and when i open an application, i don't see the reduced window on the board thing. is it normal or did i do something wrong while installing KDE?
[10:25] <wolferine> ariane, check dmesg
[10:25] <Arwen> ariane, it's normal for weird things to happen if you install KDE on top of GNOME
[10:26] <darkrift> thats what i heard
[10:26] <Arwen> but, go check your logs, we might be able to fix some of it
[10:26] <darkrift> which is why they have kubuntu i guess
[10:26] <ariane> so i should uninstall gnome?
[10:26] <Arwen> ariane, eh... that's kind of hard to do
[10:26] <MaTiAz> Hmm, KDevelop says "X libraries not found" when I try to run the configure for an example program. What package should I install?
[10:27] <fdoving> MaTiAz: xorg-dev
[10:27] <Arwen> MaTiAz, xorg-dev or x-dev
[10:27] <MaTiAz> Thanks
[10:28] <ariane> darkrift: i know i should have taken kubuntu but i had problems before with kde. uninstalled linux, reinstalled ubuntu 7.04 and i really missed kde (and amarok was taking so long to open) so i decided to switch back and here i am trying to work out how to fix bugs...
[10:30] <blekos> could u tell me how to reconfigure my monitor from the command line?
[10:30] <bene> I'm running Feisty 7.04 beta (i think). Would this have updated automatically thru apt, if i ran updates everytime needed? or do i need to update manually? if so how?
[10:30] <coreymon77> umm
[10:30] <coreymon77> why would you install kde over gnome
[10:30] <coreymon77> why not just do kubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <coreymon77> that works fine doesnt it?
[10:31] <Arwen> coreymon77, that's probably what he meant?
[10:31] <ariane> well i installed kubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <coreymon77> well lets make sure
[10:31] <coreymon77> maybe he instaled actual kde
[10:31] <coreymon77> which will not work
[10:31] <ariane> i made sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[10:31] <Arwen> KDE won't work? how lazy...
[10:31] <coreymon77> oh
[10:31] <ariane> it works. but it's buggy
[10:31] <coreymon77> Arwen: no, if you isntall the actual kde metapackage, it will not work
[10:31] <coreymon77> Arwen: kde doesnt like not having root
[10:33] <bene> Last time i updated, it was to 7.04 beta. would i have automatically updated to alpha? or do i need to do that manually?
[10:33] <Arwen> bene, um, beta is after alpha
[10:33] <SlimeyPete> IRC doesn't need much screen-space...
[10:33] <bene> sry whatever the final version is
[10:33] <Arwen> and any release of X random version will automatically update
[10:34] <bene> so i dont need to upgrade from beta to final?
[10:34] <bene> 7.04
[10:35] <Arwen> no, long as you let all the automatic updates install
[10:35] <bene> ok
[10:35] <bene> thanks
[10:35] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:35] <blekos> is there a way to find a file in a .tar file and extract just that one?
[10:36] <Arwen> blekos, yes?
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> blekos: I think it is just do not use the x option for xtracting
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> maybe you coud do something linke this tar -vf file.tar | grep text to see if you have that file inside the tar
[10:36] <PABLO-VIVA> where text is the text to find inside the tar
[10:38] <fdoving> blekos: yes, 'tar -xvf file.tar dir/inside/tar/file.txt' - you can list the files with 'tar -tvf file.tar' (the 'v' isn't neccessary)
[10:38] <Arwen> blekos, http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/index.html
[10:38] <fdoving> blekos: add j or z if you handle .bz2 or .gz files.
[10:39] <Arwen> or, listen to fdoving
[10:39] <avalon> Is there a way to tell my entire system (audio/flash/etc)  to output all sound to my USB headset?
[10:39] <ariane> well...knowing that installing kde over gnome isn't a so good idea, should i uninstall everything and switch back to gnome and wait for kubuntu 7.10?
[10:40] <Arwen> ariane, uh... Kubuntu 7.10 is out...
[10:40] <coreymon77> it is?
[10:40] <fdoving> ariane: why isn't it a good idea to install kde over gnome?
[10:40] <Arwen> oh wait, 7.10? oops
[10:40] <coreymon77> i wouldnt exactly call gutsy out
[10:40] <Arwen> but the Tribe 1 is
[10:40] <MaTiAz> What's the package for Qt then?
[10:41] <fdoving> 7.10 is there, not finished though :)
[10:41] <Arwen> MaTiAz, which package? there's several
[10:41] <fdoving> MaTiAz: libqt3-mt-dev probably
[10:41] <arkanabar> Is there a way to map the K menu to one of the windows keys on my keyboard?
[10:41] <MaTiAz> Ok, thanks :)
[10:41] <ariane> well maybe some beta is out. but i don't think i'm used to ubuntu enough to get into the beta adventure...
[10:41] <MaTiAz> I'm pretty new to GUI deving in Linux so sorry for troubling you :)
[10:42] <fdoving> MaTiAz: if your application isn't very special, it might be an option to install it from a package. there is a good chance the package exists.
[10:43] <Neolik-2007>  8-)
[10:43] <wolferine> i am setting up nfs, I have it working from one system, but when I try and access /home/user on my other system. I receive ' mount server:/home/user/ failed, reason given by server: Permission denied'
[10:44] <MaTiAz> fdoving: Yeah, I'm doing the Kdevelop tutorials so I doubt there are any packages :)
[10:44] <ariane> i'm going to see if gnome still works fine. thanks for your help!
[10:44] <fdoving> MaTiAz: ah, nevermind me then :)
[10:45] <Arwen> MaTiAz, why are you using kdevelop to compile stuff? what's wrong with "./configure && make"?
[10:45] <fdoving> Arwen: kdevelop kinda automates that for you.
[10:45] <blekos_> sorry, i need to ask again, is there a way to find a file from a .tar and then just have that file extracted?
[10:45] <Arwen> fdoving, you don't want automation when compiling...
[10:45] <Arwen> the more automated, the more likely to fail
[10:46] <MaTiAz> Well, I'm not so experienced so it's more likely for me to fail when doing it by hand :)
[10:46] <fdoving> Arwen: kdevelop is an editor, like for hacking, making programs.
[10:46] <Arwen> eh..
[10:46] <MaTiAz> I'm not compiling existing programs
[10:47] <Arwen> MaTiAz, ah.
[10:49] <waylandbill_> blekos_: yes. The man page for tar has example usage.
[10:50] <blekos_> ok thnx
[10:50] <Fuxian> i need some help with a cardreader. It was working fine before but now it doesnt show up anymore. Where can i find it again?
[10:50] <Neolik-2007> What is suckle
[10:51] <PABLO-VIVA> I need some help with amarok and mp3, I'm using kubuntu Feisty Fawn, I open Amarok and when I select any mp3 media amarok opens a popup asking me if I want to install mp3 support but It hans up there
[10:52] <avalon> Is there a way to tell my entire system (audio/flash/etc)  to output all sound to my USB headset?
[10:52] <Arwen> PABLO-VIVA, do it manually then. "apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg"
[10:53] <PABLO-VIVA> Arwen: thanks I did not know wich package to install with apt
[10:53] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, is there an application that will search through my KMenu entries and find applications which no-longer exist?
[10:53] <waylandbill_> avalon: in the system settings, there's a section to adjust audio properties. You want to set the sound device in the advanced settings.
[10:53] <Arwen> NickPresta, nope. Not as far as I know.
[10:54] <PABLO-VIVA> thanks I installed libxine1-plugins and it worked
[10:54] <Arwen> uh.... I said libxine1-ffmpeg, but oh well
[10:54] <blekos_> i type sudo grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[10:54] <blekos_> but i get no result
[10:55] <PABLO-VIVA> Arwen: never mind thanks again
[10:55] <fdoving> NickPresta: having a look in ~/.kde/share/applnk might give you a clue. those are the user-only applications in the menu
[10:55] <blekos_> i am under the impression that my cpu is not recognised as dual core
[10:55] <Arwen> blekos_, uh... CPUs aren't "recognized" as dual-cre.
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> blekos_: grep for "prcessor"
[10:55] <Arwen> dual-core CPUs appear as 2 CPUs
[10:55] <fdoving> NickPresta: the system-ones belong to the packagages, so they are autoremoved with the package. any modified ones are placed in ~/.kde/share/applnk as copies for the user only.
[10:55] <nosrednaekim> *processor
[10:56] <NickPresta> fdoving, thanks. I will figure something out, I'm sure.
[10:56] <blekos_> sudo grep cores /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <Arwen> blekos_, NO
[10:57] <blekos_> sudo grep prcessor /proc/cpuinfo
[10:57] <Arwen> NO
[10:57] <Arwen> no sudo
[10:57] <arkanabar> Is there a way to map either of my window keys to the K menu, like in PCLOS?
[10:57] <Arwen> "grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | tail -n2"
[10:57] <nosrednaekim> run "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep processor"
[10:58] <Arwen> blekos_, or just grep processor /proc/cpuinfo
[10:58] <blekos_> the result i get is 0
[10:58] <blekos_> (zero)
[10:58] <Arwen> blekos_, that means that there's only 1 core seen
[10:58] <Arwen> you sure you have a dual-core? and are you running dapper?
[10:58] <blekos_> how can i make it to see 2 cores
[10:58] <blekos_> 100% +
[10:59] <fdoving> arkanabar: have a look at http://www.kde-forum.org/thread.php?threadid=11451
[10:59] <Arwen> blekos_, second question. Are you running Dapper/6.06?
[10:59] <blekos_> bfore i do all the mambo jambo with nvidia i had dual core
[10:59] <blekos_> nop
[10:59] <blekos_> feisty fawn
[10:59] <Arwen> hmm, no idea
[11:00] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: cat piping for grep is bad practice. 'grep <string> file' is faster. :)
[11:00] <jab630> how can i tell what video card is on this computer? someone put it together :)
[11:00] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: ok
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> jab630: "cat lspci |grep video"
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> sorry, foget the cat
[11:01] <darkrift> q: does crossover office use wine?
[11:01] <Arwen> yes
[11:01] <nosrednaekim> lol.. i'm mixed up
[11:01] <Arwen> a heavily modified wine
[11:01] <darkrift> i c
[11:01] <darkrift> i didnt think it did
[11:01] <Arwen> same with Cedega
[11:02] <fdoving> jab630: or 'lspci|grep -i graph'
[11:02] <darkrift> but mirc that i installed in crossover has a "About wine" option in the menu
[11:02] <Arwen> darkrift, um.. mIRC?
[11:02] <Arwen> why?
[11:02] <darkrift> because ive written thousands of mirc scripts that i need to run
[11:03] <Arwen> ah
[11:03] <darkrift> and i dont know tcl or any other lang
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: whats the "-i" do?
[11:03] <darkrift> that was a requirement for me switching to linux..... mirc had to work
[11:03] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: case-insensitive.
[11:03] <Arwen> darkrift, you should start porting scripts though.... maybe python? that's relatively easy.
[11:03] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok
[11:03] <darkrift> unless i find a linux based client that supports mirc scripts (that would be great)
[11:03] <darkrift> i know
[11:03] <tbtroja> darkrift: I'm sure you can get mIRC running in Wine?
[11:04] <darkrift> but not much time to learn another
[11:04] <darkrift> tbtroja: , it is running in crossover office
[11:04] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: i often use 'grep -niR <string> dir/' to find matches in all files inside dir/, with linenumbers.
[11:04] <Fuxian> i need some help with a cardreader. It was working fine before but now it doesnt show up anymore. Where can i find it again?
[11:04] <darkrift> but it does have some errors
[11:04] <tbtroja> darkrift: oh, I see.
[11:04] <voidmage> I used to use a lot of mirc scripts, but xchat works fine too.
[11:04] <voidmage> might not be the same for you though.
[11:04] <darkrift> first, the nicklist boxes dont get filled out unless i click in them (they are blank or have graphics errors in themn)
[11:05] <Arwen> darkrift, #crossover please
[11:05] <nosrednaekim> fdoving: I knew about the -R, didn't know about the -n. Learn something new every day!
[11:05] <fdoving> nosrednaekim: --color is also nice.
[11:05] <darkrift> second, the window buffer in SOME, not all chans gets cut off (it only shows the last 10 or so lines)
[11:05] <PABLO-VIVA> well Konversation and KSirc work fine for me
[11:05] <darkrift> im not asking for help with crossover
[11:05] <darkrift> just stating a few things that didnt work
[11:06] <avenger> i need some help with amarok, anyone willing to help me?
[11:06] <Arwen> darkrift, yeah, but other people need help too, sorry
[11:06] <Arwen> avenger, I can try
[11:06] <PABLO-VIVA> avenger:  tell me
[11:06] <PABLO-VIVA> if I can i'll help you
[11:06] <nosrednaekim> avenger: whats the problem?
[11:06] <tbtroja> avenger: try not to ask to ask questions, just ask them.
[11:06] <avenger> amarok doesn start anymore, i tried to start it in the terminal and get the following error message
[11:07] <avenger> amarokapp: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:07] <Arwen> avenger, have you installed fglrx manually?
[11:07] <Arwen> and then removed it
[11:07] <shatteredskye> does anyone know how to get a passive stylus working on a tablet?
[11:07] <darkrift> :S
[11:08] <avenger> i did, i tried to install the nvidia-driver
[11:08] <tbtroja> shatteredskye: what do you mean by passive stylus?
[11:08] <Arwen> avenger, ah...... um, you should reinstall mesa
[11:08] <avenger> but the xserver crashed, so i tried to reinstall the old one woth apt-get
[11:09] <avenger> waht is mesa?
[11:09] <Arwen> opengl libraries
[11:09] <avenger> ah ok
[11:09] <Arwen> avenger, "apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx
[11:10] <jab630> trying to figure out what kind of video card is in this machine. neither "lspci | grep video" nor "lspci | grep -i graphics" output anything...
[11:11] <jab630> nevermind: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[11:11] <Arwen> jab630, try "lspci | grep NVIDIA" or "lspci | grep ATI"
[11:11] <jab630> thats it :)
[11:11] <Arwen> or... wow, that's a really weird card
[11:11] <jab630> yeah, what the hell is it?
[11:11] <jab630> s3?
[11:11] <Arwen> old integrated one
[11:11] <jab630> gross :)
[11:11] <Arwen> *very* old
[11:11] <romudog> Can someone assist me in setting up an ssh server, I cant seem to find out how to start it or edit the config files.
[11:11] <nosrednaekim> not so old... I saw s3's in new laptops just a year ago
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> romudog: did you install the ssh erver package?
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> *server
[11:12] <jab630> Arwen: you know offhand if there are any better drivers for it than whatever kubuntu probably is using be default?
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> jab630: no, there aren't
[11:12] <jab630> by*
[11:12] <nosrednaekim> it doesn't hve 3d
[11:12] <Arwen> jab630, nope, it just sucks
[11:12] <jab630> nosrednaekim: no? oh well. thanks
[11:12] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Yes i did