[07:36] <BHSPitLappy> and is there any way I can remove gaim WITHOUT removing ubuntud-desktop?
[07:36] <Vague_Rant> It allowed you to save the home directory to a USB stick, so that you could install things, save your settings, etc.
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> dakine: applications, accessories terminal then the commands above
[07:36] <Vague_Rant> Can Ubuntu do this?
[07:37] <Vague_Rant> As this is a shared computer, I'm basically limited to Live CDs.
[07:37] <sky0> dakine: you want to import browser-bookmarks into you newly installed linux?
[07:37] <Vague_Rant> But a Live CD with that functionality would be great.
[07:37] <James2006_> Hey, ubuntu won't recognise my onboard wifi. can someone please help me?
[07:37] <BHSPitLappy> Vague_Rant, try Slax, or another distro that's -intended- as a functional live cd
[07:37] <UltraMagnus> how can i get it so that when i press both mouse buttons on my laptop trackpad that it middle clicks? please
[07:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Knoppix can creat a persistent directory folder...
[07:38] <baconbacon> in firefox, bookmarks -> manage... , then file -> import
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu's live functionality is more of a demo than a practical desktop, Vague_Rant
[07:38] <Vague_Rant> Knoppix refuses to run on my PC.
[07:38] <Vague_Rant> Fair enough, BHS.
[07:38] <Vague_Rant> Thanks for the tip.
[07:38] <BHSPitLappy> good thing Slax isn't knoppix, then
[07:39] <James2006_> dapper drake wont find my onboard wifi! can someone help"?
[07:39] <dakine> yes sky0
[07:40] <reemusk> i have mounted my NTFS drive as read only, but it says i need to have root acess to do so. how do i do that?
[07:40] <sky0> dakine: then you don't need to mess around with nautilus or superuser right; baconbacon told you above: in firefox, bookmarks -> manage... , then file -> import
[07:41] <lonegeek> Can anyone say whats wrong with this....    //<IP_ADDRESS>/TV /media/TV    smbfs  uid=zach,username=zach
[07:41] <sky0> dakine: then select the file containing the bookmarks and you should be done
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> dakine: Still having trouble with that?
[07:42] <James2006_> herro?
[07:42] <sky0> lonegeek: run 'id zach' in a shell and use the uid= value it gives you instead of 'zach'; uid=1001 for example ?
[07:42] <dakine> i just want to get my bookmarks done so i can go back and d/l the real version 6/06 and install it then over time i can learn all this crap i keep hearing...i am a complete totala novice and need nfo i can actually go do to get my results
[07:42] <skon> dakine: in future you could also use google browser sync which keeps a backup of all your bookmarks, history etc and reloads each time you start up firefox
[07:42] <Schalken> Where are the packages downloaded through synaptic kept?
[07:42] <reemusk> !seen mwe
[07:42] <ubotu> I last saw mwe<EMAIL_ADDRESS>4h 43m 59s ago, quiting: "Leaving"
[07:42] <reemusk> dang that's the last time i seen him too. thanks oh mighty bot unbuntu
[07:43] <reemusk> uboto
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> dakine: You said it lacks a "Go" button - I'm seeing "Open" to select the file, what happens when you click that?
[07:43] <reemusk> i have mounted my NTFS drive as read only, but it says i need to have root acess to do so. how do i do that?
[07:43] <cryptid> !how do i real player format files in linux
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do i real player format files in linux
[07:43] <q_a_z_steve> !file list
[07:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about file list
[07:43] <lonegeek> /<IP_ADDRESS>/TV /media/TV    smbfs  uid=1000,username=zach   did that...still not mounting
[07:43] <baconbacon> !tell cryptid about restrictedformats
[07:44] <Gareth1> !my mother
[07:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about my mother
[07:44] <Gareth1> :( how sad
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> dakine: Just checked - that finishes the import for me.
[07:44] <skon> !wearing womens underwear
[07:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about wearing womens underwear
[07:44] <Gareth1> yeah, sure you don't
[07:44] <jpgvietnam> can ubuntu linux  read file *.wma ?
[07:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[07:44] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:45] <dakine> tony i click on the bookmarks file and it highlites, then that is all, right click dont work and the context menu dont have a move or go or anything else...that is as far as i can go with it
[07:45] <reemusk> !how do i login as root
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about how do i login as root
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy_> !sudo
[07:45] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> reemusk:  use sudo
[07:45] <TokenBad> anyone else know why apt-cache search w32codecs wouldn't find that?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> dakine: Are you doing this in the Import dialogue?
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> TokenBad:  because that is NOT how the wiki says to do it.
[07:46] <soop> anyone ever configure dual video cards?
[07:46] <TokenBad> Jack_Sparrow, I know how it says to do it...but if he uses apt-get or synaptic its not finding it..so there has to be a reason
[07:46] <dakine> no, i was told tousee nautilus
[07:46] <dakine> to use
[07:46] <reemusk> how do i use sudo when i'm browsing the filesystem??
[07:47] <soop> reemusk: sudo nautilus
[07:47] <baconbacon> TokenBad: yes you must have skipped something
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> TokenBad:  because that is NOT where it is...
[07:47] <soop> or theres some automatix scripts that let you do it
[07:47] <elkbuntu> soop, no, gksudo nautilus
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[07:47] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:47] <reemusk> do i type that command?
[07:47] <reemusk> that's interesting...gonna try it
[07:47] <reemusk> heh holy christ it worked look at that
[07:48] <TokenBad> Jack_Sparrow, its in mine
[07:48] <q_a_z_steve> are sambastart and lisa available in 6.06?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> dakine: I'm not sure why...try it the other way.  In Firefox, select Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks.  From within that, File > Import, select your file, and click Open.  All done.
[07:48] <Jack_Sparrow> you just said it wasnt there now you say it is..
[07:48] <TokenBad> no..said its not in his
[07:48] <TokenBad> not in mine
[07:48] <soop> q_a_z_steve: if it was there in 5 its there in 6 if its there in slack its there in ubuntu etc.
[07:48] <TokenBad> its in mine...not in his
[07:48] <soop> might not be a package but you can always buiuld it
[07:49] <Jack_Sparrow> token then he has NOT enabled the correct repo
[07:49] <dakine> i go to import and navigate to the directory ( the +add icon is lit...when i choose bookmarks ( the ones to import) the +add icon goes off and there are no others to choose from
[07:49] <reemusk> !mp3 support
[07:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about mp3 support
[07:49] <TokenBad> Jack_Sparrow,  that is what I was saying the whole time...
[07:50] <reemusk> !mp3
[07:50] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:50] <kditty> what do you guys think of automatix?
[07:50] <reemusk> where can i download an mp3 codec for ubuntu?
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !automatix
[07:50] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> !mp3 > reemusk
[07:50] <skon> kditty: try easyubuntu instead
[07:50] <baconbacon> may i suggest
[07:50] <kditty> Jack_Sparrow, it used to say not to use automatix. they must have improved it eh?
[07:51] <baconbacon> !easyubuntu
[07:51] <reemusk> hey tony thanks, but that doesn't tell me where to get them
[07:51] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:51] <q_a_z_steve> soop: I'm just getting into ubuntu, not sure how to use these same utils as I do with knoppix...
[07:51] <kditty> ive already installed automatix, can i have both skon?
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> kditty: not much
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> reemusk: Doesn't it?
[07:51] <menisk> what is a good port of doom that can run on lnux
[07:51] <reemusk> i'm looking for where to get them..
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> !mp3
[07:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <skon> kditty: not sure, would say not. Did automatix break your system in any way?
[07:52] <thunderbolt> menisk: Boom is a good Doom clone for linux
[07:52] <menisk> thunderbolt, does it work on ubuntu 5.10
[07:52] <kditty> not, improved it a lot actually
[07:52] <James2006_> I cant find my onboard wifi on mynotebook with ubuntu, can anyone help?
[07:52] <reemusk> woops sorry tony
[07:52] <skon> oh cool
[07:52] <menisk> thunderbolt, does it need to be compiled
[07:53] <skon> stuffed mine so I used easyubuntu instead which worked like a charm
[07:54] <reemusk> so where was i...mp3 codecs...where can i download them
[07:54] <menisk> reemusk, do u need mp3 codecs
[07:55] <reemusk> yes...can i get them through XMMS?
[07:55] <varsendaggr> hey how can i get maps to play quake2?
[07:55] <reemusk> actually, i haven't even gotten XMMS to work
[07:55] <czer323> !easyubuntu
[07:55] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:55] <varsendaggr> reemusk, did you try playing mp3's with xmms?
[07:55] <reemusk> i haven't gotten XMMS to work correctly...i keep getting an error
[07:56] <menisk> reemusk, go to synaptic package manager and select XMMS
[07:56] <jasonm> rhythmbox wont let me edit id3 tags, ive changed the tags in EasyTag and it doesnt show the changes when i read the mp3, what gives? anyone have an idea
[07:56] <reemusk> menisk eduate me on how ot get to the package manager
[07:56] <reemusk> please :)
[07:56] <jasonm> all my tags were perfect in itunes i dont see what the problem is
[07:56] <menisk> reemusk, are u new to linux?
[07:57] <reemusk> menisk: yes :( but i figured out how to mount all by myself i promise
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> system... admin... synaptic
[07:58] <menisk> reemusk, go to system and select synaptic package manager
[07:58] <menisk> reemusk, its under administration
[07:58] <q_a_z_steve> !ubotu
[07:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:58] <reemusk> menisk: thats cool....what is special about packages?
[07:58] <reemusk> is there a debian faq i can read?
[07:58] <menisk> reemusk its an easy way to install things
[07:59] <reemusk> like i always learned windows, dos, openvms through playing with it
[07:59] <menisk> reemusk now type xmms
[07:59] <reemusk> k
[07:59] <reemusk> changes are done it says
[07:59] <reemusk> i'm in therel...applied and everything
[07:59] <reemusk> how do i run it?
[07:59] <reemusk> found it :0
[08:00] <menisk> reemusk, for mp3 codecs in synaptic package manager type gstreamer
[08:00] <menisk> reemusk then select the package gstream0.8-mad
[08:01] <menisk> that is for playing mp3s
[08:01] <reemusk> got it, install that?
[08:01] <menisk> reemusk yes
[08:01] <reemusk> says install
[08:01] <reemusk> installed***
[08:02] <menisk> reemusk, you should be able to play mp3s through XMMS now, give it a go and tell me if it works
[08:02] <reemusk> i'm gonna right now thanks give me a moment :) i love lin
[08:02] <reemusk> x
[08:02] <nofear> how di i get fglx-gears to show frames per sec?
[08:02] <nofear> is it glx-gears -fps?
[08:03] <nbjayme> is there a utility in linux to get ip of a known hostname?
[08:03] <skavenge> nofear: -printfps
[08:03] <bimberi_> nbjayme: host google.com
[08:03] <bimberi_> (for example)
[08:03] <PacketScan> nbjayme, dig
[08:03] <nofear> thanks skavenge
[08:03] <yoshiznit123> nofear, or glx-gears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark :-)
[08:03] <Disorganized> anyone know of a dns server a little less archaic than bind?
[08:04] <nofear> i just wanted to see if my drivers were installed right
[08:04] <derjur> Disorganized: i use dnsmasq
[08:04] <nofear> and there not :)
[08:04] <PacketScan> power, djb, there are many
[08:04] <derjur> does dhcp too
[08:04] <rob> dnsmasq
[08:04] <nofear> i gotta fix em
[08:04] <nofear> lol
[08:04] <rob> dnsmasq works great for home use
[08:04] <James2006_> anyone got any clues on wireless adapters? ubuntu wont find my onbaord wifi on my notebook
[08:04] <James2006_> ^^^
[08:04] <derjur> has anyone seen an issue with 6.06 and gaim where it just will not connect to msn?
[08:04] <alink1000> hey people
[08:04] <PacketScan> James2006_, ndiswrapper
[08:04] <alink1000> um
[08:04] <sethk> James2006_, find's mine on a couple of different laptops
[08:04] <alink1000> anyone got experience with linksys router?
[08:04] <James2006_> PacketScan: elaborate?
[08:04] <menisk> reemusk, did it work
[08:04] <alink1000> even the company can't help me.
[08:05] <alink1000> they're too  stupid, and only have experience with crap OSs. :P
[08:05] <sethk> alink1000, "even" the company?
[08:05] <alink1000> linksys
[08:05] <alink1000> I'm trying to get my internet working
[08:05] <PacketScan> James2006_, using ndiswrapper you can take a windows driver and use it in linux
[08:05] <sethk> alink1000, I know, I was being sarcastic
[08:05] <alink1000> :P
[08:05] <alink1000> so, do you?
[08:05] <Disorganized> dnsmasq does dhcp too tho.. i'm simply looking to setup a small nameserver to be authoritive for the 6 domains i host on a single box
[08:05] <James2006_> ok ill have a look into it
[08:05] <sethk> alink1000, I have worked with a couple of linksys routers, but there are many different ones
[08:05] <GigaClon> whats the command to list processes?
[08:05] <alink1000> hold up, I'll tell you the model number
[08:05] <sethk> GigaClon, ps
[08:06] <damned> morning all
[08:06] <alink1000> WRT54G
[08:06] <alink1000> v5
[08:06] <James2006_> also, whats a good irc client for ubuntu
[08:06] <James2006_> ?
[08:06] <GigaClon> xchat
[08:06] <[_miT_] > how do i run the latest easyubuntu?
[08:06] <James2006_> k
[08:06] <[_miT_] > its not python
[08:06] <sethk> alink1000, I've worked with that one a bit.  what problem are you having?
[08:06] <alink1000> I need to configure it with linux.
[08:06] <sky0> reemusk:  you asked for docs? http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/index.html - http://www.tldp.org/FAQ/Linux-FAQ/ - http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ - http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/index.html
[08:06] <harsha> Hello all! Has anyone been successful in compiling cvs emacs with xft support on  Ubunutu v 6.06?
[08:07] <alink1000> it's not automatically detecting the IP address through DHCP. :S
[08:07] <alink1000> though it is connected
[08:07] <MTecknology> how can I see how hot my computer is?
[08:07] <reemusk> ah crap
[08:07] <reemusk> that's the command to do a root for nautilus
[08:07] <sethk> alink1000, all I did was tell the box to use dhcp.
[08:08] <user_> i just downloaded the linux-source.2.6.15.tar.bz2 with ubuntu patches... but when i try to unzip it (tar -xvjf <filename>) the tar program gives me an error and returns 2... any suggestions?
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> James2006_:  I like Konversation for IRC
[08:08] <alink1000> how would I do that?
[08:08] <menisk> reemusk, did the mp3 work with xmms?
[08:08] <alink1000> I tried entering the router's IP into FF, but it gives me an "Unable to connect" error... :S
[08:08] <sethk> alink1000, network-admin, then select the interface, click properties, and click the checkbox for dhcp
[08:08] <reemusk> i'm transferring them over to my linux system...i'm gonna test it right now
[08:08] <alink1000> read what I said before your last post. :P
[08:08] <menisk> ok
[08:09] <nbjayme> bimberi , PacketScan : it cannot get the exact IP probably behind a router... but mysterious because Cups can detect those shared printers with Detect Lan Printers enabled.... it registers the host name but i want to get the ip.... oh well, have to walk to the other building...(i'm just a bit lazy noh? :))   )
[08:09] <James2006_> Jack_Sparrow: why's that?
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> I just like the features and highlights
[08:09] <James2006_> yerah
[08:09] <James2006_> ill give em both a shot'
[08:09] <reemusk> haha! GOT IT!
[08:10] <reemusk> you guys are awesome
[08:10] <dakine> whoo hoo, in spite of myself and others i am seeing my bookmarks now, dont remember how i did it but they ate there!!!!!
[08:10] <sethk> alink1000, using dhcp there is nowhere that you enter the router's IP, so I don't follow you.
[08:10] <James2006_> but my real problem is my wifi
[08:10] <James2006_> it wont pickup my nmotebook!
[08:10] <James2006_> gosh dangit
[08:10] <alink1000> uh
[08:10] <alink1000> you enter it in a browser
[08:10] <PacketScan> James2006_, what card?
[08:10] <sethk> alink1000, oh, you mean to configure it.
[08:10] <James2006_> not too sure?
[08:10] <James2006_> intel i think
[08:10] <alink1000> yes
[08:10] <James2006_> proset?
[08:10] <alink1000> :)
[08:10] <sethk> alink1000, you are doing a chicken and egg thing
[08:10] <alink1000> ...? :S
[08:11] <sethk> alink1000, to talk to the router for configuration purposes, you have to configure the network interface on your box
[08:11] <stbrenner> i'd like to create an NTFS partition on my laptop and install XP....anyone wanna help me out in getting started?  i have no clue what application can help me with this in linux
[08:11] <q_a_z_steve> James2006_: intel pro wireless 2200BG?
[08:11] <alink1000> and I would do that by...
[08:11] <sethk> alink1000, ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:11] <sethk> alink1000, assuming that your interface is named eth0
[08:12] <alink1000> where do I enter that? :)
[08:12] <sethk> alink1000, the default for the router might be <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>, the docs should tell you which.
[08:12] <sethk> alink1000, that's a command line. so you enter it at a command prompt
[08:12] <yoshiznit123> stbrenner, use gparted
[08:12] <q_a_z_steve> console!
[08:12] <alink1000> in the ubuntu terminal?
[08:12] <sethk> alink1000, or you can use network-admin
[08:12] <alink1000> or terminal, right?
[08:12] <sethk> alink1000, which is easier if you aren't familiar with command line things
[08:13] <alink1000> I am
[08:13] <menisk> reemusk, they are working?
[08:13] <sethk> alink1000, right, terminal, konsole in kde, xterm, etc.
[08:13] <alink1000> k
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub >stbrenner
[08:13] <nooseisloose> to use hostap rather than orinoco, do I need to d/l kernel headers?
[08:13] <sethk> alink1000, ifconfig -a   will show you all interfaces, configured or not configured; you can use it to check that your interface is named eth0
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub > stbrenner
[08:13] <reemusk> yes menisk :)
[08:13] <menisk> reemusk, glad to be of service
[08:14] <James2006_> steve, yeah something like that
[08:14] <reemusk> thank you so much :)
[08:16] <zooy0rk> is the i2c_sensor module missing from dapper?
[08:16] <alink1000> sethk, it says permission denied 3 times in 3 different lines, with some numbers and letters before it, when I entered that command line.
[08:16] <alink1000> What's wrong? :S
[08:17] <sethk> alink1000, sorry, I forgot:  sudo ifconfig ....
[08:17] <alink1000> oh yeah. :P
[08:17] <sethk> alink1000, unless you are root, you need sudo at the beginning of the command.
[08:17] <alink1000> yeah
[08:18] <alink1000> command not found! :O
[08:19] <sethk> ifconfig?  can't be, first of all because it found the command and gave you the errors
[08:19] <sethk> alink1000, do     which ifconfig           then sudo /usr/sbin/ifconfig .....     (or whatever the path is; might be /sbin/ifconfig)
[08:20] <sethk> alink1000, /sbin/ifconfig on my ubuntu boxes
[08:20] <alink1000> whoa, can you explain that a little more clearly please?
[08:20] <alink1000> I'm sorta new with ubuntu. :P
[08:20] <sethk> alink1000, yes, entering    which ifconfig           will show you the full name of ifconfig.  On my box it is /sbin/ifconfig
[08:21] <alink1000> oh, okay
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> alink1000: HE is spoonfeeding now..
[08:21] <sethk> alink1000, then, you use    sudo /sbin/ifconfig       which will get rid of the not found error.
[08:21] <alink1000> okay
[08:22] <solic> Jack_Sparrow you want to ask your mam to carry on spoon feeding you when you still feel you have to make those kinds of comments
[08:22] <alink1000> ACK!
[08:22] <sethk> brb I hope... plenty of other folks here that know all of this.
[08:22] <alink1000> still command not found
[08:23] <flankk> A default mount point in my /mnt was deleted.  How can I restore it so it is recreated when mounted like it used to, not just by creating a directory?
[08:23] <askvictor> I've connected a USB printer to my dapper computer and the gnome printer config doesn't let me choose any USB ports when trying to set it up
[08:23] <alink1000> it showed a bunch of lines of crap, so I thought it must've been workin'...
[08:23] <alink1000> but it's still command not found...   :S
[08:24] <Madpeter> what is ubuntu like as a os, is it all code or is there a gui?
[08:24] <askvictor> Madpeter: gui rocks
[08:24] <menisk> how do I install dapper without killing my current configuration of ubuntu?
[08:24] <Back_Space> Madpeter: it depends
[08:25] <thunderbolt> The default desktop install has a nice GUI associated with it.
[08:25] <menisk> Madpeter, ubuntu is an os and it kicks arse
[08:25] <askvictor> Madpeter: you can go command line, but there is a gui by default which rivals apple in how smooth it is
[08:25] <alink1000> hellz yeah it does. (h)
[08:25] <Back_Space> yeah Gnome is functional
[08:25] <alink1000> B)*
[08:25] <alink1000> now...
[08:26] <Madpeter> whats the min specs needed to load and use the system?
[08:26] <menisk> Madpeter, go to shipit.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <alink1000> about my sticky predicament...
[08:26] <Madpeter> my cd is allready on its way
[08:26] <cubikdice> hey guys, i have a computer here with 2 eithernet ports. the first port is straight into a hub with leads to a modem. and the second port is connected to a box running ubuntu. the computer which is directly connected to the internet is a windows machine. how do i get the ubuntu computer to use the same ip and get NET access throw this windows machine?
[08:26] <menisk> Madpeter, What are ur pc's spec?
[08:26] <flankk> A default mount point in my /mnt was deleted.  How can I restore it so it is recreated when mounted like it used to, not just by creating a directory?
[08:26] <Madpeter> my main comp is a amd but im getting a p2 just to test it
[08:27] <Madpeter> this will be my first run with a non windows os
[08:27] <ccccccc> Does anyone know in linux kernel 2.6.16 source codes,which files are mainboard drivers?
[08:27] <alink1000> *waits patiently*
[08:27] <menisk> Madpeter, Do u have at least 128mb ram?
[08:27] <Back_Space> Madpeter: are you getting ubuntu server or teh desktop version]
[08:27] <Madpeter> yep
[08:27] <Madpeter> desktop normal
[08:27] <menisk> Madpeter, whats ur processor speed?
[08:27] <DarkMageZ> cubikdice, you need to "network bridge" both of the connections on the windows box
[08:27] <ccccccc> Does ubuntu need mainboard driver?
[08:27] <Madpeter> best for most of ya
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Madpeter: There are also a number of screenshots on osdir.com.
[08:27] <Back_Space> ok tahn
[08:28] <alink1000> =(
[08:29] <nooseisloose> alink what is the question again?
[08:29] <Back_Space> Madpeter, what made you want to try linux
[08:29] <flankk> A default mount point in my /mnt was deleted.  How can I restore it so it is recreated when mounted like it used to, not just by creating a directory?
[08:29] <menisk> how do i install dapper without killing my current configuration of ubuntu
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> !upgrade
[08:29] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[08:30] <menisk> cool thanks
[08:30] <Madpeter> watching what windows has been doing
[08:30] <menisk> Madpeter u sould be able to install ubuntu
[08:30] <menisk> i I run it on a six yr old pc with a 600mhz proccessor
[08:31] <Back_Space> I installed ubuntu on a 1998 computer
[08:31] <alink1000> um
[08:31] <Madpeter> now this Q is going to piss most of you off ^_^, has there been any reported issues with AOL <+<
[08:31] <alink1000> to get my internet working
[08:31] <alink1000> with my linksys router
[08:31] <alink1000> on ubuntu linux
[08:31] <alink1000> latest verion
[08:31] <Back_Space> not taht i know of
[08:31] <alink1000> that good? :)
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Madpeter: What sort of issues?  Specific to Ubuntu, or just that AOL's &%*$ ?
[08:31] <Madpeter> just aol
[08:31] <Madpeter> <+<
[08:31] <Madpeter> lol
[08:31] <menisk> Madpeter, u can connect to AOL using gaim
[08:31] <askvictor> I've got a usb printer, but CUPS won't give me any options for letting me use the USB port. any suggestions? am I missing any packages?
[08:31] <menisk> it works
[08:32] <Madpeter> gaim is a windows emulater no?
[08:32] <alink1000> so...um...yeah
[08:32] <alink1000> help would be great by others too.
[08:32] <Back_Space> !gaim
[08:32] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Madpeter: Wait, AOL as an ISP or AIM?  Gaim is a chat client.
[08:32] <Madpeter> AOL the isp
[08:32] <Madpeter> i would have said AIM if I ever wanted to use there crappy chat thing
[08:32] <flankk> Madpeter: Why not call them?
[08:33] <Back_Space> I dont know if there is an AOL for linux
[08:33] <nooseisloose> ok I will give it a shot
[08:33] <Madpeter> I dislike AOL support
[08:33] <nooseisloose> what's your ip address?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Madpeter: That's just dialup right?  Or do they offer more?  In short, they'll refuse to help you if you call tech support and mention Linux, so you'll have to fake that you're on Windows if you ever have trouble.
[08:33] <Madpeter> DSL
[08:33] <flankk> Madpeter: Well, it is your choice to pay for their service.
[08:33] <Back_Space> Madpeter, http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[08:33] <alink1000> fine, I'll get help for this tomorrow in here.
[08:34] <alink1000> It's getting late here anyways
[08:34] <nooseisloose> alink1000: what's your ip address?
[08:34] <alink1000> comcast or router's?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> Madpeter: I don't know about AOL's, but when I had DSL they had a CD full of special software I was supposed to install under Windows, but with Ubuntu I just had to plug in the cable and turn the modem on.
[08:34] <alink1000> you can see my comcast IP if you hover over my nick.
[08:34] <nooseisloose> the computer thaT  doesnt' work's
[08:34] <swim> does anyone have e17 installed on dapper? I keep getting this error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/21983
[08:35] <Back_Space> Its called pengAOL, the verson of AOL for linux
[08:35] <alink1000> well
[08:35] <alink1000> what now?
[08:35] <zcat[1] > tonyyarusso: the same works under windows; they CD full of spyware and advertising is totally optional. Most people just don't know it.
[08:35] <sethk> zcat[1] , is quite correct
[08:35] <Back_Space> Madpeter you can also see this http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[08:35] <alink1000> *sigh* well I'm gonna go now
[08:35] <Back_Space> grr wrong link
[08:36] <snooky353> any mplayer debs, yet?
[08:36] <Back_Space> http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-21425.html
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> zcat[1] : Nice.  (although less spyware and no ads on mine - it was Bell not AOL)
[08:36] <alink1000> I'll just get help tomorrow, since it's getting late here anyways
[08:36] <nooseisloose> alink1000: I am guessing you have two or more pc with a linksys router, and the linksys connects to the comcast and does nat?
[08:36] <alink1000> yes
[08:36] <alink1000> one macintosh, one linux
[08:36] <alink1000> macintosh, I'm on now
[08:36] <alink1000> I need to configure linux
[08:36] <alink1000> to work with it
[08:36] <alink1000> I need to configure the router I think
[08:36] <nooseisloose> is the mac on the router?
[08:37] <alink1000> but when I type the router's IP in firefox, it gives me an unable o connect error
[08:37] <alink1000> *to
[08:37] <nooseisloose> macintosh
[08:37] <alink1000> yes
[08:37] <alink1000> both are
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> your router runs a dhcp server?
[08:37] <alink1000> yes
[08:37] <nooseisloose> got a console open?
[08:37] <alink1000> terminal?
[08:37] <alink1000> yep
[08:37] <nooseisloose> yes
[08:37] <alink1000> man, but it's clear the hell up stairs...
[08:37] <alink1000> I have to remember shit or keep coming back down.... :(
[08:38] <alink1000> my PC that is
[08:38] <nooseisloose> what's the ip on the macintosh?
[08:38] <alink1000> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <nooseisloose> and the router's ip?
[08:39] <alink1000> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <void^> if that's true you are directly connected on the mac.
[08:40] <alink1000> yes
[08:40] <nooseisloose> if you open a terminal on the macintosh and say ifconfig it says <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:40] <sethk> alink1000, if you can't do ifconfig, then use the gui (network-admin) and set the ip to <IP_ADDRESS> and the netmask to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:40] <alink1000> the short router cord is going to the mac
[08:40] <alink1000> you mean 1.100?
[08:40] <sethk> alink1000, 1.anything except 1, actually
[08:41] <alink1000> okay
[08:41] <sethk> alink1000, if you want to talk to the router, and the router is <IP_ADDRESS>/24, then you need 192.168.1.X/24 where X is something not in use.
[08:41] <nooseisloose> you may have to give route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[08:41] <nooseisloose> where eth0 is your ethernet card
[08:41] <sethk> nooseisloose, no, not for this purpose
[08:42] <sethk> nooseisloose, no routing is required for communication among machines on the same subnet
[08:42] <gore_> I just thought of somethign
[08:42] <nooseisloose> he just said they were not on the same subnet
[08:42] <nooseisloose> sethk <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <gore_> I definitely need to irc through a vhost or a proxy
[08:42] <sethk> nooseisloose, then he can't configure from a box on another subnet
[08:43] <alink1000> um
[08:43] <alink1000> seth
[08:43] <alink1000> I already err.. did that in the network admin
[08:43] <nooseisloose> seth is he doing that?
[08:43] <alink1000> I already did that on the network admin, but I ain't got internetz yet. :
[08:43] <gore_> if someone finds a bug in the software distributed by unbuntu, they could join this channel and acces every machine
[08:43] <alink1000> * :(
[08:43] <gore_> thats bad
[08:43] <sethk> nooseisloose, well, by now we are all thoroughly confused.  What he was asking originally is how to set up his ubuntu box so he can use it to configure his linksys router
[08:43] <flankk> Madpeter: Well, it is your choice to pay for their service.
[08:44] <alink1000> yes
[08:44] <alink1000> well
[08:44] <nooseisloose> sethk, alink, so what are the facts?
[08:44] <alink1000> I put the IP, etc. in the network admin
[08:44] <Madpeter> i dont pay for it
[08:44] <alink1000> I think I need to configure my router
[08:44] <alink1000> however...
[08:44] <czer323> gore_: on what basis?
[08:44] <Madpeter> is there still thous free isp's around?
[08:44] <alink1000> when I try to type my router's IP address into FF, it gives me an unable to connect error
[08:45] <alink1000> Imma try it again
[08:45] <sethk> alink1000, try to ping the router from the command line.  that will tell you if you are connected on the same subnet.
[08:45] <nooseisloose> alink yes ping
[08:45] <dakine> does zone alarm filewall work on linux , if not what does?
[08:46] <alink1000> how would I do that?
[08:46] <askvictor> I can't get CUPS to allow me to use by USB printer - the USB device doesn't show up when trying add the printer. lsusb and lsmod both show the device is present. Any ideas?
[08:46] <nooseisloose> alink ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:47] <tabber> anyone using starcraft + wine?
[08:48] <alink1000> I got a 56(84) bytes of data line
[08:48] <alink1000> whaddose that mean?
[08:48] <nedss_> hello everyone!
[08:48] <tabber> starcraft + wine => help!
[08:48] <alink1000> well it's getting a little late
[08:48] <nedss_> so, i setup ubuntu server and got x going remotely
[08:48] <alink1000> I'll get help tomorrow.
[08:49] <nedss_> and i want to get vnc going...
[08:49] <sethk> askvictor, when I had that problem it was caused by the kernel for usb printing not enabled.
[08:49] <alink1000> see ya guys
[08:49] <nedss_> how do set it up remotely via the cmnd line?
[08:49] <sethk> askvictor, the kernel module for usb printing, sorry
[08:49] <askvictor> sethk: which module is that?
[08:50] <askvictor> sethk: usblp is installed; is there another one i need?
[08:50] <nooseisloose> nedss apt-cache search?
[08:50] <tich> i installed picasso but now i want to remove it but it isn't in the repositories (so i can't apt-get/synaptic) how do i fully remove it?
[08:50] <nedss_> nooseisloose:  apt-cache search?
[08:51] <nedss_> nooseisloose:  I'm trying to allow vnc connections
[08:51] <nedss_> i don't have physical access to the machine
[08:51] <nedss_> vnc is installed and running
[08:51] <nedss_> but i've never logged into the machine via x
[08:51] <nedss_> its sitting with a login screen right now
[08:52] <nedss_> hours and hours away from me :)
[08:52] <bobby> where does one leave a bug report about the ubuntu-desktop livecd? I just want to note that it does not work at all with a SiS 661FX graphics card (you put the cd in and you see the isoloader text then blank and the cd fails to load further (system requires a hard reset)
[08:53] <Madpeter> how well does this os connect to windows (if at all)
[08:55] <bobby> Madpeter, define your question in a clearer fashion?
[08:55] <Madpeter> does the desktop connect to windows XP?
[08:55] <bobby> again, define connect and desktop?
[08:55] <Healot> houte couture
[08:56] <zcat[1] > assuming you mean filesharing, samba works mostly the same as windows (you can browse the network the same, and share folders from linux)
[08:57] <Madpeter> the os that comes with the desktop users CD
[08:57] <bobby> Madpeter, you are asking why the moon looks grey...
[08:57] <zcat[1] > remote desktop is about the same afaik; you can control a windows machine or allow windows to control your linux desktop..
[08:57] <bobby> ask specific answerable questions else it is very hard to help you
[08:58] <zcat[1] > and of course everything else .. ubuntu can be a webserver, ftp server, ldap/dhcp/pop3/imap/whatever server which is all as compatable anything else
[08:58] <cntb> what fax program in UBUNTU is available
[08:58] <bobby> ubuntu and windows xp may 'connect' well by my definition as it does what I need...yet may not do what you need at all.  though as mind reading isn't one of my skills it is hard to understand what you mean by connect
[08:59] <bobby> cntb, ubuntufax ?
[08:59] <Madpeter> fear the noobie q's ^_^ does it allow using an active connection on XP to be used?
[08:59] <cntb> !ubuntufax
[08:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntufax
[08:59] <KenSentMe> Madpeter: do you mean accessing windows shares. then Yes
[08:59] <cntb> boby ru  guessing my friend?
[09:00] <KenSentMe> !tell Madpeter about samba
[09:00] <Tmob> anyone run i8kmon here?
[09:00] <bobby> cntb, this thread may help you http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=444794
[09:00] <zcat[1] > Madpeter: Umm.. you mean if you share your connection in windows? yes, that will work, ubuntu will see the connection. If you enable NAT and dhcp in ubuntu, Windows will likewise see that as a shared network connection..
[09:00] <bobby> cntb, does googling count as guessing :P
[09:00] <Tmob> anyone know how to fix this error: Error in startup script: can't find package Tk 8.0  ??
[09:00] <charle97> bobby, do you mean an internet connection on xp shared with ubuntu?
[09:00] <cntb> !samba > Madpeter
[09:01] <rob_p> cntb, Open a shell and type, "apt-cache search fax" and you'll get a list of packages available in the repos with the string, "fax" in them.
[09:01] <bobby> Madpeter, or are you talking about remote desktop or vnc connections - if so gnu/linux supports those, mostly, better than windows itself :)
[09:01] <cntb> 10x rob-p
[09:01] <zcat[1] > if you plug both windows and ubuntu into any standard dsl or cable modem, they'll both happily share the connection without even being aware of each other
[09:01] <jasonm> i downloaded http://www.ubuntudebs.luxz.net/breezy/rufus.0.6.5/rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb, but i dont understand how to install
[09:01] <jasonm> any help
[09:01] <lonegeek> how do i disable password for client computers on a windows network...
[09:01] <nooseisloose> nedss when you say x do you mean xmdcp?
[09:02] <bobby> jasonm, sudo dpkg -i rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb   from the directory it is sitting in
[09:02] <rob_p> cntb, welcome
[09:02] <bobby> lonegeek, are you talking about incoming connections via samba to a linux boxens shares?
[09:02] <Madpeter> ok next noobie Q, how well does it do with games? and is there any games that will not ever run
[09:02] <lonegeek> bobby: yes.... when i try to access on a windows pc...it wants a password...i want that disabled
[09:03] <stevekl> bobby, if boxen is the plural of box then what's boxenS ;)
[09:03] <bobby> Madpeter, many games wont run on linux...it is more of a question of 'will this game run at all' than 'what games wont run'?
[09:03] <bobby> stevekl, an ox :)
[09:03] <charle97> dual boot
[09:03] <jasonm> bobby, thats what i thought. but i get this: rufus_0.6.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[09:03] <tomlikestorock> Madpeter: generally the most popular games have the best support, however
[09:04] <bobby> lonegeek, the solution leads to an insecure box you realise?
[09:04] <bobby> jasonm, then it is probably corrupt
[09:04] <lonegeek> bobby: if its only on my wired network...is there really that much risk?
[09:04] <jasonm> bobby, fuck, thanks.
[09:05] <Madpeter> is there any key things I will need to know to be able to install the OS?
[09:05] <bobby> lonegeek, I don't think so which is why I do it at home...just thought I'd warn you.  give me a moment to find the changes you need
[09:05] <jasonm> does anyone know a channel for help with rhythmbox?
[09:05] <tomlikestorock> Madpeter: partitioning, but only a high level knowledge is required
[09:06] <bobby> gah sorry lonegeek got to go
[09:06] <bobby> the net has what you want, I should be back online in 30 mins or so if you are still about
[09:06] <bobby> later all
[09:06] <nooseisloose> nedss_: you have vnc on the remote machine?
[09:07] <dakine> to officially install ubuntu, should i use an iso of the "real" version or just choose the install feature of this live version?
[09:08] <Subhuman> dakine, does the same thing.
[09:08] <Subhuman> the live cd IS the official install cd.
[09:08] <tomlikestorock> dakine: the install off the live is just fine :)
[09:08] <dakine> oh...ok, this will give me admin/boss privledges and all? cool
[09:08] <tomlikestorock> dakine: where you located?
[09:08] <dakine> maui
[09:08] <nedss_> nnoseisloose:  yes
[09:09] <nedss_> nooseisloose: yes
[09:09] <tomlikestorock> waiks
[09:09] <tomlikestorock> oahu
[09:09] <lonegeek> does anyone have latest fglrx driver and latest kernel working together? hardware acceleration quit working for me...
[09:09] <nooseisloose> and you have a login terminal to it?
[09:09] <Tmob> anyone know how to fix this error: Error in startup script: can't find package Tk 8.0  ? i'm trying to run i8kmon on my laptop
[09:09] <dakine> no, maui is one of the other islands. oahu is 90mi/150km away
[09:09] <tomlikestorock> yeah, I know
[09:09] <nedss_> yes
[09:09] <nooseisloose> nedss_: you can ssh into it?
[09:09] <nedss_> yes
[09:10] <corey> howdyhowdy
[09:10] <nooseisloose> nedss_:have you set a vncpasswd
[09:10] <nedss_> yes
[09:10] <corey> has adobe released flash player 9 for linux yet ?
[09:10] <nooseisloose> nedss_: still cant open a vnc session?
[09:10] <Axe_> ubuntubuntubuntubuntubuntubunt
[09:11] <boredandblogging> hi everyone
[09:11] <Seveas> corey, are pigs fying yet?
[09:11] <nedss_> no...I don't have root access but set the password by doing "vncpasswd /home/username/.vncpasswd
[09:11] <Axe_> I fried a pig
[09:11] <Axe_> the other day
[09:11] <Axe_> it was fun
[09:11] <corey> me 2
[09:11] <corey> thats a shame adobe said they where making linux player 9 those bastards
[09:13] <Seveas> corey, yes, in early 2007...
[09:13] <corey> pft
[09:13] <boredandblogging> can someone tell me how to fix the error when I try to run xbitchx "uable to open open font default8x16." do I need to set something in the xorg.conf?
[09:13] <nooseisloose> nedss_: is port 7100 open?
[09:13] <nedss_> no...5900 needs to be open, no?
[09:14] <nooseisloose> nedss_: let me make sure
[09:14] <woodwizzle> IDLE won't start for me :( I do have it installed.
[09:15] <nooseisloose> nedss_; oops 7100 is font serve pay no attention, is you vnc port open?
[09:15] <Subhuman> it is 5900
[09:15] <nooseisloose> ty
[09:15] <Subhuman> 5800 is the web end
[09:15] <nedss_> nooseisloose:yeah
[09:15] <nooseisloose> nedss_: can you do the web login?
[09:15] <Seveas> corey, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[09:15] <nedss_> nooseisloose: how do i do that?
[09:16] <nooseisloose> nedss_: point your browser to http://remote-machine:5800
[09:17] <nooseisloose> nedss_: also look in the machine's /etc/vnc.conf and see what it specifies the password file to be named
[09:17] <nedss_> ok
[09:18] <Nameeater> why does gnome not let my set a static IP in networking? with DHCP it lets me click ok but if I put static and fill it in it remains grayed out
[09:18] <nooseisloose> nedss_: as in # $vncPasswdFile = $vncUserDir . "/passwd"
[09:18] <Nameeater> nevermind, typo
[09:21] <nedss_> ok i'm getting a blank screen with an x
[09:21] <nedss_> now what?
[09:24] <woodwizzle> anyone else get a traceback in dapper running IDLE
[09:24] <peterretief> will ubuntu spend some time getting the ruby binaries to work
[09:25] <peterretief> i always have to end up installing ruby from source
[09:25] <Healot> !find ruby
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 320 others)
[09:25] <Healot> !find gold
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: kgoldrunner, goldedplus
[09:25] <Healot> !find silver
[09:25] <ubotu> Found: clearsilver-dev, python-clearsilver, python2.4-clearsilver
[09:26] <CrippsFX> is it possible to run XGL/Compiz on something like fluxbox?
[09:26] <peterretief> but they are mostly broken
[09:26] <cntb> anybody familiar with dyndns client ? isadyn included in fedora what is in UBUNTU?
[09:26] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i wanna intall suarbratin and i have a a tar.gz file...what do i do to install it?
[09:26] <Healot> !find dyns
[09:26] <ubotu> No packages matching 'dyns' could be found
[09:27] <dreamcatcher5172> sorry i dont know much outside of the packet manager
[09:27] <rsk> dreamcatcher5172 unpack it
[09:27] <dreamcatcher5172> do i just put it in a folder on my hardrive?
[09:27] <cntb> !find dyndns
[09:27] <ubotu> Found: ddclient, ez-ipupdate
[09:27] <rsk> sure
[09:27] <dreamcatcher5172> ok brb
[09:28] <cntb> 10x Healot
[09:29] <Healot> it wasn't me
[09:30] <dreamcatcher5172> hrrm...i have a folder full of stuff...though im not sure if a launcher is configured with it or not....
[09:30] <tich> how do i un-install applications?
[09:31] <Healot> tich: the packages you installed with the installer? like adept, synaptic, apt-get?
[09:31] <Healot> the easiest way to do so, "sudo apt-get remove <package name>"
[09:32] <caturOK> how to reject mp3 at to squid.conf
[09:33] <tich> healot; i installed it with gdebi and it isn't available in the repositories
[09:33] <caturOK> i have coding my squid.conf : acl regex -i $.exe
[09:33] <nooseisloose> nedss_: you're getting a blank screen with an X?
[09:33] <cubikdice> Hey guys, i currently have 2 computers in my room right now. the first one i'm on right now is a windows xp box and the second one is an ubuntu 5.04 box. this first box has 2 ethernet ports, the first one connected to the modem and the second connected to the ubuntu box. how would i get the ubuntu box to use the internet with the same ip and everything going throw this windows box???
[09:33] <gatekeeper> dreamcatcher5172: where did you get your tar from?
[09:33] <nedss_> nooseisloose: yes
[09:33] <caturOK> but why the user can download that dile
[09:33] <caturOK> file
[09:33] <nedss_> nooseisloose: now what?
[09:33] <dreamcatcher5172> the homepage that hosts it
[09:34] <nooseisloose> nedss_: like when X is loading but not with gnome or KDE or anything?
[09:34] <dreamcatcher5172> its a game running on the cube2 engine...
[09:34] <nedss_> nooseisloose: yes
[09:34] <dreamcatcher5172> fps rpg
[09:34] <nedss_> nooseisloose: exactly
[09:34] <Healot> doom 3?
[09:34] <nooseisloose> nedss_: slow net conection?
[09:34] <nedss_> nooseisloose: not that slow...:)
[09:34] <nooseisloose> nedss_: drat!
[09:34] <dreamcatcher5172> kinda like that...though the graphics arent as good...
[09:35] <gatekeeper> dreamcatcher5172: a URL?
[09:35] <dreamcatcher5172> oh yeah..let me find it
[09:35] <KenSentMe> cubikdice: i think you should use the windows feature Internet Connection Sharing. I think you can activate it by right clicking on your lan connection to the modem. I don't know what ip the ubuntu box should get, but maybe by setting this on dhcp you will get it automaticly.
[09:36] <dreamcatcher5172> www.sauerbraten.org
[09:36] <nooseisloose> nedss_: I think you are going to have to install or configure a window manager to go with X, it seems like you got logged in properly, though you should verify it in ssh by checking netstat
[09:36] <dreamcatcher5172> i got it from there
[09:36] <Healot> 192.168.0.X netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:36] <nedss_> the server is sitting on a T1
[09:36] <nedss_> nooseisloose: gnome is installed :)
[09:36] <cubikdice> KenSentMe, then run dhclient3 on the ubuntu box?
[09:37] <tich> Healot, i installed it with gdebi?
[09:37] <Healot> and the Windows PC with ICS activated shall have <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:37] <nooseisloose> nedss_: is gdm running?
[09:37] <cubikdice> KenSentMe, oh, and it was a server install
[09:37] <Healot> tich: do you know the name of the package?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> cubikdice: i think you can configure /etc/network/interfaces so it uses dhcp
[09:37] <Healot> then use gdebi to remove it
[09:37] <tich> Healot, it is picaso
[09:37] <nedss_> nooseisloose: yes
[09:37] <nedss_> nooseisloose: when i left it a couple days ago it was
[09:37] <cubikdice> KenSentMe, it DHCPs but default
[09:37] <Healot> dpkg -l *picaso* >> tich?
[09:38] <PORDO> what exactly is the point of esd?  what does it do that i need?
[09:38] <nooseisloose> nedss_: ps fax|grep gdm
[09:38] <cubikdice> PORDO, it's another sound server
[09:38] <KenSentMe> cubikdice: it's already configured as dhcp? Ok, then i don't know what to do next. I haven't tried this config myself, so don't know how to get it to work
[09:38] <PORDO> as opposed to?
[09:39] <PORDO> for instance, if xmms can see my audio card, using alsa, why do i need esd?
[09:39] <nedss_> nooseisloose: oh yeah...gdm is alive and kicking!
[09:39] <PORDO> is the only function of esd just so that more than one program can use the sound device at once?
[09:39] <gatekeeper> dreamcatcher5172: Instructions are here: http://www.sauerbraten.org/docs/config.html I don't think it is source code
[09:39] <dreamcatcher5172> checking it out
[09:39] <cubikdice> PORDO, well say you want to run a game but ALSA is being used..then running the game under esd you can use the sound card at the same time
[09:39] <redblades> Heya! I'm having trouble setting up DDclient with my router!
[09:40] <redblades> Can someone help me?
[09:40] <cubikdice> KenSentMe, is it the bridge connection feature
[09:40] <KenSentMe> cubikdice: i wouldn't know, sorry
[09:40] <cubikdice> alright
[09:40] <PORDO> cubikdice so it's exactly as i put it?  esd just allows more than one thing to use the sound card at once?
[09:40] <dreamcatcher5172> ah ok....thats too bad...i thought it was released for linux as well....sigh
[09:40] <PORDO> and that can't be done by directly accessing the device through alsa?
[09:40] <cubikdice> PORDO, yup ^_^
[09:40] <PORDO> are there "better" solutions than esd?
[09:41] <PORDO> in a review of the nokia 770, the author really spoke negatively of esd.
[09:41] <ale_> !encoding
[09:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about encoding
[09:41] <redblades> My problem is that it seems to be having trouble updating the IP address, perhaps it is returning the wrong address?
[09:42] <Healot> !info ginger-ale
[09:42] <ubotu> Package ginger-ale does not exist in dapper
[09:43] <redblades> !supertux
[09:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about supertux
[09:43] <redblades> !info supertux
[09:43] <ubotu> supertux: Classic 2D jump 'n run sidescroller with Tux. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 200 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:43] <redblades> Hurrah!
[09:43] <cubikdice> Hey guys, i currently have 2 computers in my room right now. the first one i'm on right now is a windows xp box and the second one is an ubuntu 5.04 box. this first box has 2 ethernet ports, the first one connected to the modem and the second connected to the ubuntu box. how would i get the ubuntu box to use the internet with the same ip and everything going throw this windows box???
[09:45] <ZeZu> enable routing perhaps, can't use ICS unless there is some linux project that supports it
[09:45] <a_l_e> my question of the day: ubuntu defaults to utf8. that's good. but i have to edit a file (html) which, at the end, should be in latin1. has anyone experiences with doing it with vim? vim any other editor?
[09:45] <ZeZu> you'd be better off making the box w/ two NICs the linux box and routing w/ linux to the windows box
[09:45] <TeemuR> hi everybody!
[09:45] <PORDO> I think Breezy uses ALSA and configures dmix, so now everything that can use alsa should work and be able to play simultaneously... including the arts and esd. You may need to reinstall for this to work though, and you may have to install alsa drivers for some programs (like VLC).
[09:46] <OxyWork> anyhere can help me?
[09:46] <DBO> ZeZu, you can share the connection with ICS to a linux box... its standard network protocols...
[09:46] <OxyWork> i got the ubuntu 6.06 live cd with me
[09:46] <ZeZu> is it ?
[09:46] <OxyWork> is there a way to install ubuntu to the hard disk without loading the live cd?
[09:46] <DBO> ZeZu, you just cant use the wizard is all
[09:47] <ZeZu> i have no clue what protocol it used honestly
[09:47] <OxyWork> my computer has only 192 meg ram..t he live cd is way too slow to install
[09:47] <DBO> ZeZu, TCP...
[09:47] <ZeZu> heh
[09:47] <ZeZu> well things run through tcp that much is obvious
[09:47] <ZeZu> but how does it route it?  similar to socks* or something
[09:47] <ZeZu> its not like you can just say ok we'll just use TCP
[09:47] <TeemuR> OxyWork I guess you could download Breezy install it and the upgrade to Dapper
[09:47] <ZeZu> there is a bit more to it than that
[09:47] <DBO> ZeZu, it plays router, just like any other router
[09:48] <DBO> it sets up NAT
[09:48] <DBO> or in linux terms, masquerading
[09:48] <OxyWork> i don't have a cd burner :(
[09:48] <ZeZu> so it just sets it up as a RIP server w/ NAT or something
[09:48] <OxyWork> i only have the ubuntu 6.06 install cd which they mailed to me
[09:48] <OxyWork> any boot options?
[09:48] <DBO> ZeZu, thats the idea
[09:49] <nooseisloose> nedss_: have you seen this thread?  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=282912
[09:49] <ZeZu> i figured, but you never know w/ m$ it could be encrypted or just use something nonstandard, ie i'm sure its prob not really RIP
[09:49] <DBO> ZeZu, no its not, its about as capable as your average home router minus all the advanced port forwarding options
[09:49] <cntb> system-config-network does not work in my UBUNTU  install. what do I need ?
[09:50] <TeemuR> I really haven't looked at the CD more than installing it from the live cd interface but there probably is an alternative way to installing it because isn't there an option to look at other boot options in the cd
[09:50] <nedss_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=282912
[09:52] <nooseisloose> nedss_: well that isn't really it either, I think the problem is that vnc is not using gdm, but rather startign another x session
[09:52] <nedss_> nooseisloose: hmmm...
[09:53] <nooseisloose> nedss_: here it is! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323&highlight=VNC
[09:53] <F0LL0W3R> how can i browse the websites throught the terminal without opening the firefox ?
[09:53] <nedss_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323&highlight=VNChttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323&highlight=VNC
[09:54] <TeemuR> I don't know why but I like using the ELinks text browser to surf the web it just looks so simple and nice:)
[09:54] <nedss_> nooseisloose: thanks for the help
[09:55] <F0LL0W3R> TeemuR lol so u have any way for that ?
[09:55] <fdsd> hey guys, I am trying to figure out what dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:55] <fdsd>  changes on my system, is there a way to run a command that tells me what files have been editted after I run that command?
[09:55] <F0LL0W3R> TeemuR ah sorryy
[09:55] <nooseisloose> nedss_: didn't work?
[09:56] <TeemuR> It's funny that I use it but I really hate command line and the command line was the thing that kept me using windows for years
[09:56] <nooseisloose> nedss_: you're welcome hope it actually help(s/ed)
[09:57] <fyrestrtr> is there any program that will allow you to send sms via a cellphone connected via bluetooth?
[09:58] <nedss_> nooseisloose: well, i'm working w/ a guy across town on a server a couple hours away...if all else fails I'll have physcial access on Tues
[09:59] <nooseisloose> ok, well good luck
[10:00] <quique> Why does Dapper's language-pack-en install its file in /usr/share/locale-langpack/ instead of /usr/share/locale ?
[10:00] <rsk> is it an issue?
[10:01] <fyrestrtr> quique: its probably a symlink
[10:01] <quique> no, it is not
[10:01] <quique> there isn't any symlink
[10:02] <ardy> help I want to setup school network, ISP->ADSL MODEM->ROUTER->SWITCH->SERVER is this correct ? any links on the internet for me?
[10:03] <fyrestrtr> ardy: looks okay to me.
[10:03] <nooseisloose> ISP->ADSL->MODEM->MODEM->ROUTER->SWITCH->SERVER
[10:03] <Healot> ardy: could be, if you have router, switch and adsl modem
[10:04] <ardy> fyrestrtr, But i want to use firewall for my server is that possible.
[10:04] <nooseisloose> ISP->ADSL->MODEM->TINCAN->STRING->TINCAN->MODEM->ROUTER->SWITCH->SERVER
[10:04] <fyrestrtr> ardy: sure, you can install a software firewall shorewall.
[10:05] <rsk> ardy just get iptables on the server
[10:05] <Darklord> i NEED AUTOMATIX FOR UBUNTU 6.06 LTS WHERE TO DOWNLOAD ?
[10:05] <Lynoure> !shouting
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about shouting
[10:05] <rsk> Darklord drop the caps
[10:06] <fyrestrtr> wth is automatix?
[10:06] <cntb> !find file
[10:06] <ubotu> Found: base-files, coreutils, file, kdeaddons-kfile-plugins, kdeadmin-kfile-plugins (and 135 others)
[10:06] <apokryphos> !automatix
[10:06] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[10:07] <Darklord> ya
[10:07] <cntb> how to find files from command line?
[10:07] <Darklord> where to download?
[10:07] <_nano_> Hi I have a few queries regarding partitioning...
[10:07] <redblades> Is there a way to make an install CD from my system (so that it is up to date?)
[10:07] <apokryphos> Darklord: there have been many bad experiences with automatix from users here, we recommend easyubuntu, generally, instead.
[10:08] <redblades> cntb, locate or find
[10:08] <apokryphos> Darklord: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:08] <cntb> 10x redblades not enough
[10:08] <_nano_> I previously used to dual boot, until this bad thing happened, and I had to delete the whole disk using my ubuntu live to make it operational
[10:08] <_nano_> Now I am running on ubuntu live. I am just about to install the OS, but I have to partition my hardrive from scratch
[10:08] <_nano_> My harddrive is 40GB. Could anyone guide me how I should go about it?
[10:08] <redblades> Hmm?
[10:09] <apokryphos> _nano_: do you wish to use it all for Ubuntu?
[10:09] <redblades> _nano_, the default should be fine
[10:09] <fyrestrtr> _nano_: the installer will do it for you.
[10:09] <_nano_> apokryphos: fully for ubuntu
[10:09] <redblades> Hahahaha
[10:09] <_nano_> fyrestrtr: but the installer allocates 1.6 GB for swap
[10:09] <redblades> _nano_ there is a radio option for it
[10:09] <TeemuR> it can automatically partition it if you use it all for ubuntu
[10:09] <apokryphos> _nano_: what's wrong with that?
[10:10] <_nano_> apokryphos: i have 1GB of RAM...isn't 1.6 GB of swap an overkill?
[10:10] <redblades> and if not, the other option is fairly clear cut too
[10:10] <redblades> yeo
[10:10] <redblades> yep
[10:10] <_nano_> redblades: which other option?
[10:10] <apokryphos> _nano_: totally depends on your usage.
[10:10] <_nano_> apokryphos: usage as in?
[10:10] <redblades> _nano_, it will ask Do you want to use the entire HD?
[10:10] <apokryphos> _nano_: personally I'd have around 1 gig myself
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> as in what you run on the machine.
[10:10] <redblades> the other is "Configure by hand" (or some such option
[10:10] <fyrestrtr> if you do .. say .. rendering -- it will eat up your ram.
[10:10] <apokryphos> but 1.6 would hardly be detrimental, or necessarily an overkill depending on how you run things.
[10:10] <_nano_> redblades: i don't have any other OS to install right now..so I guess....but I would wanna have one experimental partition to try another distros
[10:11] <fyrestrtr> _nano_: how big is your hdd?
[10:11] <_nano_> fyrestrtr: 40Gigs
[10:11] <redblades> _nano_ most distros will detect the ubuntu and shrink it
[10:11] <_nano_> redblades: aah that's nice
[10:11] <redblades> yeah
[10:11] <redblades> not always, but usually
[10:11] <apokryphos> _nano_: what I'd recommend, then, is this: 6/7 gigs for Ubuntu /, 1 gig for swap, 6/7 for another experimental partition, and everything else /home
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> _nano_: leave 10 GB for the other distros, and split the other into /home, / and swap
[10:12] <_nano_> apokryphos: ok...so what about this primary extended thing? :-S
[10:12] <fyrestrtr> _nano_: you can only have 4 primary partitions.
[10:13] <fyrestrtr> so I guess you are okay there ... unless you want to do something like lvm (which you probably don't)
[10:13] <apokryphos> _nano_: I tend to just work around whatever it orders me to do 8)
[10:14] <_nano_> apokryphos: ok...i was just making sure that's all...sorry i'm kind of a paranoid :P
[10:14] <nedss_> how do I enable XDMCP from the command line?
[10:14] <Darklord>  any add on cd released for 6.06 lts?
[10:14] <_nano_> fyrestrtr: i guess i'll just make the first "/" partition as primary and rest as extended
[10:14] <Madpilot> Is there any way to tweak printer head alignments in Ubuntu? My HP Deskjet has gotten the colour & black heads slightly mis-aligned, and I'm not at all sure how to fix it...
[10:17] <cntb> what is the quickest invoke of terminal fronm , say gnome - GUI ?
[10:17] <TeemuR> what would be a good wifi usb stick wich would allow me to create an access point and would work easily with ubuntu?
[10:18] <Healot> GNOME menu -> Application ->  Terminal
[10:18] <Healot> three clicks
[10:18] <Knome> i used to put the terminal on the menu bar
[10:18] <Healot> good idea too
[10:18] <Healot> heh never thought of that
[10:19] <compengi> i want to open ftp but what i get is 421 service not available
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> just assign it a shortcut
[10:19] <fyrestrtr> compengi: do you have a ftp server installed?
[10:20] <tach00> has anyone heard of a bug causing your keyboard to go crazy?
[10:20] <compengi> i don't think so
[10:20] <fyrestrtr> tach00: sure, coke.
[10:20] <compengi> fyrestrtr, where can i get it?
[10:20] <RawSewage_> Whats the top audio editing software for Linux professionals
[10:21] <fyrestrtr> compengi: from the repositories. Just use synaptic, search for ftp, pick the one you like, and install it. If you just want to transfer files, you can use scp (secure copy) from any computer that has a scp client.
[10:21] <tach00> no it is like someone is pushing buttons that i am not pushing, and skipping keysand CAPS allby ts self
[10:22] <fyrestrtr> you mean its displaying characters on the screen when you are not typing, or its not displaying what you are typing (you type a, it shows z for example) -- or you hit the keys, and there is a delay, and then it displays?
[10:23] <tach00> keyboard is set up right but something isnt jiving right
[10:23] <england`> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu, got the ubuntu server i386 on my cd already, but it doesnt want to boot with it
[10:23] <england`> m i doing something wrong here >
[10:23] <england`> ?
[10:23] <compengi> fyrestrtr, i searched but what i got in search i many results which one should i install so that i can access ftp
[10:24] <F0LL0W3R> does any1 know a way for browsing the websites through the terminal without opening the firefox ?
[10:25] <tach00> fyrestrtr: no, like  am typing and it just skipps and someimesssssss it is like  i am holding down  a key
[10:25] <england`> when installing ubuntu, is it through root ?
[10:25] <Healot> you can use lynx for web browsing in terminal, F0LL0W3R
[10:25] <void^> or links :)
[10:25] <Healot> lynx sounds geekier
[10:25] <F0LL0W3R> thx alot guys :-)
[10:26] <F0LL0W3R> lol btw it told me that lynx or links not command :D
[10:26] <F0LL0W3R> i mean command not found
[10:26] <tach00> fyrestrtr: also sometimes like i am holdig down the enter button,everything onscreen goes crazy
[10:27] <void^> F0LL0W3R: install them, or try w3m
[10:27] <F0LL0W3R> void^ how to install then excuse me ?
[10:28] <tach00> anyyy ideas
[10:28] <void^> F0LL0W3R: apt-get
 apt-get install lynx like that ?
[10:28] <Subhuman> F0LL0W3R,  "sudo apt-get install lynx"
[10:29] <F0LL0W3R> ohh thx void^ and subhuman
[10:29] <_stev_> hi all, What can I check if my mplayer plugin for firefox doesn't play a video stream on a particular site?
[10:29] <england`> do i copy the iso linux to floppy or sometin ?
[10:30] <[Ex0r] > grrr, what is wrong with Ubuntu's bittorrent client?
[10:30] <Healot> !info lynx
[10:30] <ubotu> lynx: Text-mode WWW Browser. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.5-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4552 kB
[10:30] <Healot> !info links
[10:30] <ubotu> links: Character mode WWW browser. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 936 kB
[10:30] <Healot> !find lynx
[10:30] <ubotu> Found: lynx, lynx-cur, lynx-cur-wrapper
[10:31] <TeemuR> it took me a long time to learn that ''sudo apt-get install'' command I was always writing something like ''sudo apt-install'' or ''sudo get-program install'':)
[10:31] <[Ex0r] > anyone having problems with the bittorrent client that comes with ubuntu? (It gets to 99% and stops downloading(
[10:32] <compengi> i want to open ftp but what i get is 421 service not available what should i install for that?
[10:32] <George7> can i ask help on sth?
[10:32] <vvlaw> how to open the barrety pannel?
[10:32] <tach00> Ex0r: i am having that problem now
[10:33] <[Ex0r] > It just recently started doing that. it worked fine before.
[10:33] <KenSentMe> vvlaw: right click on the menu bar in the top of your screen, select add and select the thing you want to add to the panel
[10:33] <compengi> !ask George7
[10:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask George7
[10:33] <KenSentMe> compengi: are you trying to set up a ftp server or just a client to connect to a remote server?
[10:33] <compengi> lol
[10:33] <KenSentMe> !ask > George7
[10:33] <George7> i get this error while running ./configure on kvirc
[10:33] <George7> ################################################################################
[10:33] <George7> ### CONFIGURE ERROR:
[10:33] <George7> ### Can not find the X libraries.
[10:33] <KenSentMe> !paste > George7
[10:34] <Healot> !find libx
[10:34] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libx11-6, libx11-6-dbg, libx11-dev, libxalan2-java (and 270 others)
[10:34] <Healot> !find libx11-dev
[10:34] <ubotu> Found: libx11-dev
[10:34] <apokryphos> George7: do NOT paste in here please.
[10:34] <Healot> !info libx11-dev
[10:34] <ubotu> libx11-dev: X11 client-side library (development headers). In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 1210 kB, installed size 4328 kB
[10:34] <compengi> i want to open ftp brower i get 421 server not available
[10:34] <apokryphos> George7: as for compiling, please read the FAQ
[10:34] <George7> apokryphos r u greek btw?:P
[10:34] <apokryphos> yes :)
[10:34] <zdux0012> where can I look to map keys in gnome?
[10:34] <George7> ela re patrida:P
[10:34] <George7> LooooooooooooooooL
[10:35] <KenSentMe> compengi: but is the server you want to connect to on your own system or is it somewhere else?
[10:35] <George7> apokryphos can u help me with that prob?:P
[10:35] <apokryphos> George7: sure, check the compiling section on the FAQ.
[10:35] <alinushak> hi al
[10:35] <compengi> somewhere else
[10:35] <George7> at the site of kv?
[10:35] <d2nds> anyone get WPA to work with a Prism card?
[10:35] <alinushak> i have a problem
[10:35] <apokryphos> George7: nope, the Ubuntu one (it's the topic). Or just see here:
[10:35] <apokryphos> !faq
[10:35] <zdux0012> found it,,
[10:35] <alinushak> my sistem is crawling
[10:35] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:35] <KenSentMe> compengi: then there may be a problem with the ftp server and not with your system
[10:36] <vvlaw> KenSentMe,thanks :)
[10:36] <George7> i'll check it and come back apokryphos
[10:36] <apokryphos> k
[10:36] <compengi> so i don't need any plugin to open ftp right KenSentMe
[10:36] <apokryphos> George7: as it notes there, you shouldn't compile unless you're convinced it's totally necessary. Why compile kvirc?
[10:37] <George7> cause i hate xchat LooooooooooooooooL
[10:37] <George7> i cannot find any scripts to work with
[10:37] <KenSentMe> no, nautilus (the file browser) can handle fpt servers by itself. You way want to install gftp, that's another ftp client, to try if it works there.
[10:37] <apokryphos> George7: kvirc is in the repositories
[10:37] <George7> i should try synaptic?
[10:37] <alinushak> can someone help me?
[10:37] <EdLin> !info kvirc
[10:37] <ubotu> kvirc: KDE based next generation IRC client with module support. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.2.0-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2366 kB, installed size 7108 kB
[10:38] <drizzt_> Does anyone speak Chinese here?
[10:38] <KenSentMe> compengi: sorry that last message of mine was for you
[10:38] <EdLin> George7: add the Universe repository and apt-get install kvirc
[10:38] <KenSentMe> !cn
[10:38] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[10:38] <apokryphos> George7: if you check the entry on adding repositories in the FAQ, add those then you can install from Synaptic.
[10:39] <drizzt_> thanks
[10:39] <George7> EdLin when i run sudo apt-get install kvirc
[10:39] <compengi> KenSentMe, np ;)
[10:39] <George7> it says that i have the latest version
[10:39] <George7> but i dont:P
[10:39] <compengi> KenSentMe, ty
[10:39] <alinushak> i cant open any aplications an my sistem is crawling
[10:39] <alinushak> pls help
[10:39] <apokryphos> George7: what version do you have? You probably have teh latest in the repository
[10:39] <KenSentMe> George7: it means the latest version available in the repositories
[10:39] <George7> 6.06
[10:39] <George7> oh
[10:40] <George7> so i am trying synaptic
[10:40] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I do a search for every file in / that has changed in the last 20 min?
[10:40] <apokryphos> George7: what version of kvirc do you have?
[10:40] <George7> well i just decided to use
[10:40] <EdLin> fdsd: man find
[10:40] <George7> i havent installed it ever i just have the tar.gz file
[10:40] <fdsd> EdLin, come on man, I just got my whole / messed up, I need your help
[10:40] <apokryphos> George7: follow the instructions for adding more repositories, then install from the Ubuntu repositories.
[10:41] <apokryphos> George7: it's in Universe, and it contains the latest stable.
[10:41] <George7> ok let's see what i will make out
[10:41] <EdLin> fdsd: the manpage should help, you need to use find to find atime
[10:41] <gremid> hi, is it possible to change gnome's behaviour, so i can cycle through the windows of all workspaces via alt-tab?
[10:41] <fdsd> EdLin, im not able to look it up right now
[10:41] <gdb> (mtime)
[10:41] <Subhuman> gremid, that IS the default behavior...
[10:41] <alinushak> i m begining to think Win is better
[10:41] <EdLin> fdsd: then look it up online, manpages can be looked up on the web
[10:42] <gdb> Actually, it's mmin.
[10:42] <myahya_> hi, I am new here, I need help on devekoping gnome apps in ubuntu
[10:42] <gdb> What happened to your / filesystem anyway?
[10:42] <myahya_> anyone?
[10:42] <alinushak> :( a little help here?
[10:42] <Subhuman> myahya_, more specific?
[10:42] <Healot> !info libgtk2.0-dev
[10:43] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.18-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2168 kB, installed size 8012 kB
[10:43] <EdLin> !info gnome-core-devel
[10:43] <ubotu> gnome-core-devel: The GNOME Desktop Environment -- development components. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:<IP_ADDRESS> (dapper), package size 11 kB, installed size 44 kB
[10:43] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I do a search for every file in / that has changed in the last 20 min?
[10:43] <Healot> myahya_: compiling existing source or building one yourself
[10:44] <EdLin> myahya_: you might want to install gnome-core-devel and pursue the documentation on gnome.org (I know the documentation isn't good, one of the drawbacks of GNOME development)
[10:44] <KenSentMe> fdsd: try find / -mmin -20 or something
[10:44] <myahya_> I am building myself. i installed all packages but when comiling under gcc header files are not found
[10:44] <gremid> Subhuman, it does not work this way on my installation (ubuntu 6.06). do you know, where i can configure this behaviour?
[10:44] <George7> apokryphos i unistalled it from synaptic and installing it again.that will probably work huh?:p
[10:44] <EdLin> myahya_: gnome-core-devel will install most of the -dev files you need
[10:44] <nauj27> hi
[10:44] <EdLin> myahya_: if it doesn't, there's always gnome-devel
[10:45] <apokryphos> George7: I thought you said it wasn't installed?
[10:45] <myahya_> it is already installed but it is not working
[10:45] <Subhuman> gremid, yes system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts and itz in that list
[10:45] <George7> well i hadn't installed it but i found sth in synaptic
[10:45] <apokryphos> George7: sorry?
[10:45] <Subhuman> myahya_, have you got the "build-essential" package??
[10:45] <alinushak> can i get some help?
[10:45] <George7> well
[10:45] <Subhuman> !info build-essential
[10:45] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:45] <George7> oti diavases:P
[10:46] <George7> den eixa valei tpt kai 3afnika mou to emfanise sto synaptic:p
[10:46] <Subhuman> alinushak, whats up?
[10:46] <alinushak> :(
[10:46] <alinushak> a prob
[10:46] <Subhuman> ....
[10:46] <apokryphos> George7: I see. English only in here, though ;-)
[10:46] <Subhuman> more specific?
[10:46] <George7> apokryphos well uninstall and reinstall worked LooooooooooooooooL
[10:46] <apokryphos> George7: ok, so install from syntaptic.
[10:46] <alinushak> my sistem is crawling
[10:46] <George7> thx for ur help man
[10:46] <Healot> hoho
[10:46] <apokryphos> =)
[10:46] <Healot> a crawling computer
[10:46] <Subhuman> alinushak, this is installed yes?
[10:46] <Subhuman> not the live cd?
[10:47] <Subhuman> becuase that really does suck.
[10:47] <alinushak> yes
[10:47] <Subhuman> and did it work b4?
[10:47] <myahya_> build-essential is already installed
[10:47] <alinushak> yes
[10:47] <alinushak> i've installed all i needed
[10:47] <alinushak> and now ..
[10:47] <alinushak> is broken
[10:47] <Subhuman> and theres not an application slowing everyhting down? like open a terminal and type "top" and tell me what is the top application?
[10:48] <Knome> myahya_: see if this yields any files 'sudo apt-get build-dep gcc'
[10:48] <gremid> Subhuman, thanks!
[10:48] <alinushak> nope i've just restarted
[10:49] <pvd2006> I am trying to get a smb server working so I can see my window files off an other system on my ubuntu box. I got it working where my windows box will read my Ubuntu shared directories, but I need it the other way around. I tried to sudo mount the smbfs file system but I got this error. ls: reading directory .: Input/output error
[10:49] <pvd2006> when I try to ls that dir
[10:49] <myahya_> this is my code
[10:50] <myahya_> #include <gnome.h> void main(){}
[10:50] <alinushak> the top aplication is ldcpp
[10:51] <alinushak> Subhuman:the top app si ldcpp
[10:52] <Subhuman> ??
[10:53] <Subhuman> your running DC++? thats ther problem, it brings the system to a crawl.
[10:53] <alinushak> u wanted to know
[10:53] <Subhuman> close DC
[10:53] <alinushak> my top app
[10:53] <Subhuman> yes dcpp
[10:53] <Subhuman> is a DC++ client
[10:53] <alinushak> is not opened
[10:53] <alinushak> wait to
[10:53] <Subhuman> well itz running.
[10:53] <Subhuman> so it must be.
[10:54] <alinushak> i can't see it
[10:54] <TeemuR> when I try to install opera 9 using command line it gives me an error ''sh opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:54] <TeemuR> opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:54] <TeemuR> opera_9.0-20060616.6-shared-qt_en_i386.deb: line 1: `!<arch>'''
[10:54] <TeemuR> does anyone else have this problem?
[10:54] <EdLin> alinushak: you don't need to be able to see the process for it to be running and being detectable by top or ps
[10:55] <alinushak> from the sistem monitor
[10:55] <alinushak> can i shut it down?
[10:55] <ajaycc> got my cd!!!!!!
[10:55] <ajaycc> with stickers!!!!
[10:55] <myahya_> about my gnome dev problem: none of the proposed solutions have worked! gnome.h still cannot be found by gcc
[10:55] <alinushak> :((
[10:56] <Subhuman> right on top, the first collumn has a number alinushak , type " kill whateverthatnumberis" to shiut it
[10:56] <Subhuman> and u can shut apps in the system monitor too.
[10:56] <alinushak> thanks for the help
[10:56] <Subhuman> right click the process and click stop process
[10:56] <alinushak> work much better now
[10:56] <Subhuman> have u shit dccp?
[10:56] <Subhuman> dcpp*?
[10:56] <Subhuman> shut*
[10:56] <alinushak> yes
[10:56] <Subhuman> sorteD?
[10:56] <alinushak> yes
[10:57] <alinushak> now
[10:57] <alinushak> i've started dc+
[10:57] <KenSentMe> How can i add todays date to a the filename of a tar file?
[10:57] <Knome> myahya_ 'gnome.h' isn't a standard C library.
[10:57] <alinushak> and its running in the background
[10:57] <alinushak> i cant see it
[10:57] <myahya_> but I installed all gnome development packages
[10:59] <Knome> here are the standard C libraries: stdio.h, ctype.h, string.h, math.h, stdlib.h, assert.h, stdarg.h, setjmp.h, signal.h, time.h, limits.h and float.h
[11:00] <a_l_e> any ubuntu-ppc users around?
[11:00] <myahya_> I realize that. But even after installing the gnome development packages, the gnome header file cannot be found. should I pass any arguments to gcc when compiling
[11:01] <Subhuman> myahya_, do you have the gtk devel packageS?
[11:02] <myahya_> I got libgtk2.0-dev
[11:03] <myahya_> I also installed libgnome-dev which is supposed to install all libraries for me
[11:04] <RememberPOL> Hey, would anyone happen to know if it's possible to use the NVIDIA released xorg video driver ("nvidia") instead of the somewhat inferior reverse-engineered free driver ("nv") on Ubuntu "Dapper Drake" v6.06 LTS?  (And also how to add support for "1280x768" screen resolution [I tried adding the entry to xorg.conf and restarting X, with still only the original three available in Screen Resolution Preferences] ?)
[11:04] <d2nds> Im trying to install the hostap drivers over the default orinoco drivers for my prism wifi card.  any suggestions?  i have blacklisted the orinoco drivers and it appears as if the gnome notworkmanager sees networks using the hostap driver, but no wpa option
[11:05] <Subhuman> RememberPOL, yes it is
[11:05] <RememberPOL> d2nds: Try using WEP instead of WPA..
[11:05] <RememberPOL> Subhuman, any suggestions?
[11:05] <Subhuman> RememberPOL,  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glrx" by memory
[11:05] <d2nds> RememberPOL: not an option, router owner is paranoiod
[11:05] <Subhuman> and then to get the right resolutions, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:05] <a_l_e> i'm trying to install the java plugin in firefox and the result is firefox crashing when loading about:plugins and many other pages (probably as soon some java is in there :-(
[11:06] <myahya_> Subhuman/Knome??
[11:06] <ccooke> !nvidia > RememberPOL
[11:06] <Tom06> i have a little problem , i use kaffeine in Ubuntu(gnome) for watching DVB i get video but not audio Please Help.
[11:06] <RememberPOL> d2nds: Will he allow WEP if you tell him your client doesn't currently support WEP? heh.
[11:06] <ccooke> RememberPOL: you should have a messge with details now
[11:06] <RememberPOL> Thank you Subhuman.
[11:06] <RememberPOL> and ccooke
[11:06] <Knome> to specify a non-standard library location myahya_ use the -L {DIRNAME} or -I {DIRNAME}
[11:06] <RememberPOL> this was my problem fyi
[11:07] <Tom06> well?
[11:07] <myahya_> Knome, I can't find gnome.h using locate
[11:07] <d2nds> remember: nope, a buddy cracked wep in front of him and now he is scared, pays for access and its his router, cant argue
[11:07] <ccooke> Tom06: Does audio work in other things?
[11:08] <EdLin> Tom06: maybe kaffeine, a KDE application, is trying to use aRTs. If possible, reconfigure it to use esd or alsa or OSS.
[11:08] <RememberPOL> i would download the shell script directly from nvidia.org (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run) and when finally successfully killing X (it can be hard to figure out how to do that without it auto-restarting).. and running it as root... it complains about not being able to find `ld` (although i think 6.06 uses ldd instead)..
[11:08] <RememberPOL> thanks again
[11:08] <Tom06> sound works otherwise
[11:08] <Tom06> just not in kaffeine
[11:08] <ccooke> RememberPOL: The binary drivers are already included in Ubuntu
[11:09] <Hawkins> Good day everone!
[11:09] <Tom06> i tried setting it to use esd alsa or OSS to no avail...
[11:09] <g-nome> hello, can i add these amarok repos (http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php, for kubuntu) in UBUNTU (gnome)?
[11:09] <ccooke> RememberPOL: also, ld and ldd are very different things. ld is the linker, used to link a set of object files together into an executable or library. ldd lists the libraries a library or executable contains references to
[11:09] <Flannel> g-nome: kubuntu and ubuntu have the same repositories
[11:09] <g-nome> ok thanks
[11:09] <alinushak> synaptic cant find dcpp
[11:09] <alinushak> i'm trying to unninstall
[11:10] <Tom06> any sugestions possibly any codecs to install?
[11:10] <RememberPOL> I see that they're already included but why did my system auto-configure to use the "nv" driver when "nvidia-glx" is more suitable for my NVIDIA Geforce Go 7800 GTX?
[11:10] <cast> Tom06: the full mplayer pkg :)
[11:10] <alinushak> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_File_share_utility_.28DC.2B.2B.29
[11:11] <Tom06> mplayer wont work for me I need Kaffeine for DVB-T
[11:11] <ccooke> RememberPOL: There are issues with automatically enabling binary drivers
[11:11] <RememberPOL> I'm not arguing because you helped me and I probably should have been able to figure this out on my own.  I just want Ubuntu to be the best it can be! ;x
[11:11] <cast> Tom06: [i don't know what you are trying to do, or whether installing mplayers codec pkg is legal in your country]
[11:11] <alinushak> Tom06
[11:11] <ccooke> RememberPOL: both practical and idealistic
[11:11] <d2nds> can anyone give suggestions on determining which wifi driver is loaded
[11:12] <GNAM> GTK 2.10.0 OUT!
[11:12] <RememberPOL> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0099 (rev a1)
[11:12] <RememberPOL> Heh.
[11:12] <ccooke> RememberPOL: Most important, though, is the fact that the binary drivers - although their installation is now very smooth and easy - do *not* work without (in rare cases very difficult) intervention
[11:12] <Tom06> is there anyone that can give me some proper help?
[11:12] <ccooke> RememberPOL: Also, they don't support every nvidia card properly and they may break other things
[11:12] <alinushak> sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:13] <RememberPOL> That's okay, I maintain a Slackware system and I've manually installed these types of xfree86/xorg drivers in the past..
[11:13] <myahya_> Please do not ignore
[11:13] <ccooke> RememberPOL: (as a random example, getting suspend/hibernation to work correctly with the Nvidia drivers was until very recently either impossible or arcane.
[11:13] <RememberPOL> I just hope this souped up laptop card is supported.
[11:13] <ccooke> RememberPOL: It is.
[11:14] <Tom06> EdLin: Sound works otherwise
[11:14] <ccooke> RememberPOL: I almost bought a laptop with one in last month, so I checked it out
[11:14] <RememberPOL> It was the latest in 2005. ;) I think they have 7900 available on the laptop now.
[11:14] <RememberPOL> hehe
[11:14] <RememberPOL> Sager NP5720
[11:15] <EdLin> Tom06: that's precisely why I think its a sound daemon issue
[11:15] <RememberPOL> Next thing I'm looking for is better HDA Intel sound support. hehe
[11:15] <RememberPOL> thanks again i'm off to config my system
[11:15] <Tom06> EdLin: Please elaborate , sound works in XMMS and Totem(gstreamer)
[11:16] <ccooke> RememberPOL: better?
[11:16] <EdLin> Tom06: I've already told you it, scroll back and read what I said.
[11:16] <ccooke> RememberPOL: the Intel HDA stuff has been a real bugger in Dapper, yeah. 2.6.15-25 has fixd it for me, though
[11:16] <Tom06> EdLin: And what should I do???
[11:17] <EdLin> Tom06: I've never used Kaffeine, so all I can tell you is to search for the options for it not to use the aRTS KDE daemon.
[11:17] <myahya_> I am trying to develop gnome applications. I installed all needed packages. when compiling using gcc it says gnome.h is not found. I used locate to find gnome.h but this returns no results
[11:17] <ccooke> myahya_: what do you mean by "all needed packages", then?
[11:17] <RememberPOL> ccooke: I think it's just that realtek is junky and they obscured the original intel hardware so much but alsa 1.0.11 supports it
[11:17] <bachstudies> has anyone had any trouble with sound in wengophone or tapioca? Skype seems to work fine but these two programs have very very broken up sound to the extent that the other person cannot understand me.
[11:18] <RememberPOL> 6.06 comes with (1.0.10-4ubuntu)
[11:18] <myahya_> any package that has the words gnome or gtk along with dev
[11:18] <heatxsink> are there any debs for freevo to work on dapper?
[11:18] <heatxsink> not just breezy?
[11:18] <alinushak> the remove command to remove a Folder is ?
[11:18] <Tom06> EdLin: Thanks , but that still doest solve my problem , I've tried everything up to 3oclock this morning and still no go , I've even istalled arts
[11:19] <EdLin> Tom06: I've never used Kaffeine, so the best I can do is give my best guess.
[11:19] <Tom06> EdLin: Thanks Anyway
[11:19] <EdLin> yw
[11:19] <Tom06> ccooke: Sound works in other apps
[11:20] <ccooke> Tom06: does it work in a different media player?
[11:20] <alinushak> rm: cannot remove `/opt/linuxdcpp': Is a directory
[11:21] <alinushak> what can i do?
[11:21] <Tom06> ccooke: Yes
[11:21] <Hawkins> Has anyone here Logitech MX1000 with all the buttons working ?
[11:21] <vick> Helo.
[11:21] <ccooke> Tom06: you've installed kaffeine as per the defaults? not changed anything?
[11:22] <vick> How do i install manpages ?
[11:22] <EdLin> alinushak: rm with the dreaded -r flag. :-)
[11:22] <Tom06> ccooke: Yes , (using it on gnome)
[11:22] <ccooke> kaffeine is supposed to use Xine as the default engine. So, does sound work with Xine?
[11:22] <alinushak> thanks Edlin
[11:23] <Tom06> ccooke:No sound in XIne either
[11:23] <EdLin> vick: apt-get install manpages and manpages-dev
[11:23] <ccooke> myahya_: IIRC, gnome.h is in libgnomeui.
[11:23] <alinushak> its gone:)
[11:23] <alinushak> wine irc channnel?
[11:23] <ccooke> myahya_: a trick that may work for you is to find a package similar to the one you want to build, then use "sudo apt-get build-dep packagename"
[11:24] <onispawn> Hawkins: have you read the wiki page about getting your mouse to work fully?
[11:24] <ccooke> myahya_: which will pull in everything needed to build that package
[11:24] <xtj> hello
[11:24] <ccooke> Tom06: then you have missing codecs in Xine. Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:24] <myahya_> ccooke: the libgnomeui-dev package is already installed
[11:25] <Hawkins> onispawn, I did everything just like the page said, but X wouldn't start
[11:25] <ccooke> myahya_: sudo updatedb ; locate gnome.h
[11:26] <onispawn> Hawkins: check the .xsession_errors file in your home directory. It will tell you whats wrong. most likely its just a typo
[11:26] <Tom06> ccooke: Thanks I will give it a go
[11:27] <Teddy> how can i change boot loader options ??
[11:27] <ccooke> myahya_: Okay. Here's all the packages in dapper that give you gnome.h:
[11:27] <myahya_> ccooke, locate was able to find the gnome.h in a few places. but compilation with gcc still does not work. is #include <gnom.h> correct?
[11:27] <ccooke> myahya_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=gnome.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[11:28] <ccooke> no, it should be <gnome.h>
[11:28] <jpgvietnam> hi
[11:28] <ccooke> or possibly (looking at results) <libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h>
[11:28] <EdLin> Teddy: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <myahya_> yes, i am using a new keyboard. I have it gnome.h!!!
[11:28] <Teddy> tnx
[11:29] <ccooke> myahya_: sorted?
[11:29] <Hawkins> onispawn, can't find the error file, in my home folder there is only Desktop and Examples folders, nothing else
[11:30] <onispawn> Hawkins: are you using natuilis to look for it?
[11:30] <myahya_> no, I typed gnome.h in the source code. I made the mistake gnom.h only in the irc msg
[11:31] <Majid> pakistan
[11:31] <ccooke> myahya_: well, you know you have gnome.h now
[11:31] <ccooke> myahya_: try including it with <libgnomeui-2.0/gnome.h>
[11:31] <Majid> hello everybody
[11:31] <ccooke> myahya_: better yet, check google for help on building gnome applications
[11:31] <Majid> anybody tell me how to use MSN messenger in ubuntu
[11:31] <Majid> ?
[11:32] <myahya_> now it gives me that file gtk/gtk.h is not found
[11:32] <Hawkins> onispawn, yes, search came up with nothing
[11:32] <myahya_> i tried google on building gnome apps in ubuntu but got nothing
[11:32] <jpgvietnam> you can use gaim messeger
[11:32] <Majid> i have no id for this?
[11:33] <onispawn> Hawkins: go to your home directory, and press (CTRL-H) that will make nautilus show you the hidden files
[11:34] <myahya_> ccook: Thank you very much for your help!
[11:34] <ccooke> myahya_: no problem. Try googling on just building gnome apps
[11:34] <myahya_> ccooke, great. thanks. bye
[11:35] <Hawkins> onispawn, ah, thanks now I've got errorlog open. I didn't know about this command as I'm a total newbie here : /
[11:35] <ideogram> anyone here have experience setting up a dual monitor nVidia card in ubuntu?
[11:36] <Hawkins> onispawn, There's only alsalib errors because I have X-Fi which isn't supported, no other errors
[11:38] <mziel> hello! anyone with  Option GT Combo Edge card here? it says ERROR on most commands (ie. atz, at+cpin)
[11:38] <ardy> help how to configure 2 NIC ?
[11:39] <Teddy> my current refresh rate is 	VertRefresh	43-60   but i want to make it 80 ,  what numbers to write , 	VertRefresh	60-80 ?
[11:40] <onispawn> Hawkins: can you put your xorg.conf into the pastebin so I can look at it?
[11:41] <Subhuman> Teddy, no, the numbers do not correlate like hta,t find your actual monitors spec. and look there.
[11:42] <Teddy> that's from xorg.conf from Section "Monitor"
[11:43] <andyjeffries> Where's the Ubuntu recommended place to put system initialisation scripts (without writing a whole init script)?  In Gentoo you put commands in /etc/conf.d/local.start and /etc/conf.d/local.stop and a pre-written init script executed them.  Anything like that in Ubuntu?
[11:44] <stefg> !init
[11:44] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[11:46] <knoppix> Who wants to help me?
[11:46] <knoppix> Please?
[11:47] <knoppix> Ubuntu has just completely died on me, im using knoppix right now
[11:47] <knoppix> I tried to install MINIX and I think I fucked up one of the Ubuntu Partitions
[11:48] <Hawkins> onispawn, Can't get pastebin working, it just says "Waiting for pastebin.com..." on FF statusbar :(
[11:48] <knoppix>  this is gay
[11:48] <CoRe_fts> ciao
[11:49] <stefg> knoppix: paste a fdisk -l to pastebin
[11:49] <ideogram> wow that was the easiest linux install ever -- ubuntu is great!
[11:49] <cast> LOL.
[11:49] <imarung> hi.. i am trying to install yahoo messenger on ubuntu.. i got this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17076.. i couldnt find the missing packages in synaptic thou.. any ideas.. ps i want ym bcos i want to use file transfer to another ym
[11:49] <cast> ideogram: :)
[11:50] <ideogram> is it going to be hard to install nVidia drivers so I can use my dual monitors?
[11:50] <rsk> jup
[11:50] <andyjeffries> stefg: Thanks for that, another question - if I want my user to be able to go to SU using sudo but without entering a password, what's the format?    Except for local vunerabilities, what's the issue?  I'm a home user and behind a firewall...
[11:51] <ideogram> does Ubuntu provide sawfish?
[11:51] <stefg> andyjeffries: you are windows'ing your system
[11:52] <stefg> !chat as root
[11:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about chat as root
[11:52] <andyjeffries> stefg: I was doing that I'd just change Root's password and login/run everything as root.  It's still taking the extra step of typing sudo at the start of commands I wish to run as root (thereby making the conscious decision)
[11:52] <Eazy-> hehe... windows'ing
[11:52] <pvd2006> I am not able to unmount a sharefolder from ubuntu. I tried sudo umount //servername/sharedirname but it says Device or resource busy
[11:53] <Eazy-> thats bad :)
[11:53] <stefg> !root
[11:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:54] <andyjeffries> stefg: Now I'm lost, that page seemed to give me lots of information on how to get a traditional root login back, but not really any explanation on why changing sudo to allow privileges without a password for my username.
[11:55] <andyjeffries> stefg: And, man, do you have a lot of those !commands to hand ;-)
[11:56] <Eazy-> !whatsfordinner
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about whatsfordinner
[11:56] <Eazy-> :P
[11:56] <stefg> Sorry, but i was never interested in doing things like that, so i can't help. The Live CD uses such a mechanism for granting root-access, but i havn't investigated
[11:57] <dedy> hii all.....
[11:57] <andyjeffries> stefg: OK thanks mate, I'll do a hit-and-miss approach and hopefully figure it....  Thanks for your help with the rc.local thing too.
[11:58] <dcnstrct> I have to admit people, I'm pretty damn impressed with ubuntu. The install process is so smooth and pretty, and it worked with most of my hardware right off the bat.
[11:58] <dcnstrct> the only major turnoff is the webpage design on ubuntu.com
[11:58] <dcnstrct> ;)
[11:58] <stefg> hehe
[11:59] <spikeb> really? i find the site itself much better than the install artwork
[11:59] <tortoise_> Does anyone know anyting about packaging python c extensions?
[11:59] <stefg> some people might call it poo-buntu
[11:59] <dcnstrct> I like the site design except the one pic of the people holding hands
[11:59] <dcnstrct> I've been using unix for a while but I never had to hold anyones hand
[11:59] <stefg> But that's the key element...
[12:00] <dcnstrct> whats the message ? "we'll hold your hand ?"
[12:00] <Eazy-> the webpage design goes hand in hand with how gnome looks ;)
[12:00] <stefg> Contrary to popular belief 'ubuntu' doesn't mean 'I can't install debian' but 'humanity to others'
[12:01] <spikeb> haha stefg
[12:01] <dantje> hehe
[12:01] <Madpilot> stefg, I thought it meant "Compiling Gentoo is boring" or something like that :)
[12:02] <dcnstrct> if I knew I was taking a picture to be on a linux distro website today then I definatly wouldn't wear a pink shirt
[12:02] <dcnstrct> and purple pants
[12:02] <dcnstrct> I hope thats photoshopped
[12:02] <dcnstrct> =D
[12:03] <auge02> i'm search a ubuntu mirro on german, can you help me
[12:03] <redblades> Uhh... Hi, I was wondering, is there a way to get windows fonts for Linux?
[12:03] <spikeb> yes
[12:03] <redblades> auge02, I think you just replace au or no or whatever with de
[12:03] <redblades> spikeb, how?
[12:03] <spikeb> let me see
[12:03] <Madpilot> redblades, do you mean regular TTF files, or the actcual fonts MS uses?
[12:03] <dcnstrct> redblades, windows uses "true type fonts"
[12:04] <Madpilot> actual
[12:04] <Madpilot> !fonts
[12:04] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[12:04] <redblades> I mean like arial and those things
[12:04] <foolip> hi. how can I test if I have superuser privileges in a bash script? tested UID=0 doesn't work in ubuntu since there is no root (I think)
[12:04] <dcnstrct> wingdings
[12:04] <Madpilot> redblades, see the bot's post above
[12:04] <Jbirdie> where do i key in the wan addy of my router (the 192.168.x.x addy)
[12:08] <Jbirdie> hello??? am i here
[12:08] <Eazy-> no
[12:08] <Eazy-> ;)
[12:09] <Jbirdie> cool
[12:09] <Eazy-> you are there :)
[12:10] <locomorto> Jbirdie: click on the pictue of two screens/one screen in the top right hand corner of the screen
[12:10] <locomorto> click properties
[12:11] <locomorto> open up a terminal, and type iwconfig
[12:12] <Jbirdie> ok,tkz
[12:12] <locomorto> then look for the line/s that do not look like this: "eth0      no wireless extensions."
[12:12] <locomorto> type that into the Name: field in the Connection properties window
[12:12] <locomorto> go configure, and it should be self explanitory from then on
[12:14] <Jbirdie> ok, i am in windows now cause i had to forward some ports and couldnt find it , so i'll reboot and have a look, aloha
[12:15] <bill[1] > is there a way to have apt get the source for an installed program?
[12:15] <cast> you bet!
[12:15] <cast> apt-get help
[12:15] <locomorto> lol
[12:16] <bill[1] > lol
[12:16] <locomorto> Actually I think its along the lines of apt-get source <package>
[12:16] <zOap> lollers !!
[12:16] <zOap> :)
[12:16] <bill[1] > yeah it didn't like that.  trying to get binutils it says permission denied.
[12:17] <ruxpin_> I've got all ntp stuff installed, what's the command to start up the ntp client? /etc/init.d/ntp-server is the only item I have
[12:17] <locomorto> bill[1] , try it from ~
[12:17] <locomorto> you might not have write permissions in the directory your in
[12:17] <ruxpin_> and the clock settings regarding ntp won't work, says server unreachable (I've got the right server set in /etc/ntp.conf)
[12:17] <ruxpin_> and it responds to pink
[12:17] <ruxpin_> ping
[12:18] <locomorto> ruxpin, I've never been able to get that to work myself :(
[12:18] <bill[1] > locomotro: its tring to fetch it from the security src repository, and it says I don't have permissions on the http server.
[12:20] <locomorto> :/
[12:20] <redblades> hi, I'm looking for a way to generate a songlists that has the title of the song, the artist, and the time of the song
[12:20] <locomorto> works here, whats the exact url?
[12:20] <redblades> I'm going round in circles with this
[12:20] <Gorlist> morning
[12:21] <locomorto> btw, you can always navigate manually I believe
[12:21] <philipsmith> I want to turn that drone noise off when ubuntu boots up. How do I do it?
[12:22] <bill[1] > locomorto: nevermind, fixed it.  Thanks.
[12:23] <locomorto> philipsmith, System -> Prefrences -> Sound
[12:23] <redblades> If anyone can help with this, it would be greatly appreciated.
[12:23] <locomorto> redblades, whoami
[12:24] <philipsmith> locomorto: Thanks!
[12:24] <redblades> locomorto
[12:24] <locomorto> redblades, exec that command ;)
[12:24] <redblades> I did
[12:24] <redblades> I am redblades
[12:24] <locomorto> now try, sudo whoami
[12:26] <redblades> locomorto, where are you going with this?
[12:27] <locomorto> *hits head*
[12:27] <locomorto> sorry, wrong guy
[12:27] <locomorto> sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[12:27] <erUSUL> redblades: i do not know much perl but you can try man MP3::Info
[12:27] <redblades> Okay, you're being very vague and annoying
[12:28] <redblades> I've done that locomorto, right guy, wrong problem
[12:28] <locomorto> I think I'll just go away now
[12:28] <redblades> I thought so....
[12:28] <redblades> no matter
[12:33] <Ng> redblades: there are probably an almost limitless number of ways to do what you want, from a bash script using an id3 tag dumper to perl, to transforming the xml database of something like rhythmbox. this isn't the best place to ask though really
[12:33] <karthik> how do i open .exe files in linux.plz help me?
[12:33] <redblades> karthik, don't
[12:33] <redblades> or, WINE\
[12:33] <redblades> Wine
[12:33] <Ng> karthik: WINE can run some windows programs
[12:33] <Lynoure> karthik: or wmware
[12:34] <redblades> karthik what do you need to open?
[12:34] <pinang> hello..................
[12:34] <apokryphos> hi
[12:34] <redblades> HI
[12:35] <karthik> i juz downloaded install.exe i am unable to open it
[12:35] <Ng> karthik: what are you trying to install?
[12:35] <pinang> asl pls
[12:35] <apokryphos> karthik: Linux does not use EXEs for installation
[12:35] <pinang> hi
[12:35] <karthik> then what does it use?
[12:35] <Ng> pinang: you are probably in the wrong place
[12:35] <apokryphos> pinang: this is the Ubuntu support channel, if you have a question, go right ahead and ask :)
[12:36] <Ng> karthik: ubuntu installs software with .deb files
[12:36] <apokryphos> karthik: it's a very different system. For Linux distributions like Ubuntu, since the majority of software used on it is free and open source, it can easily all be stored in "repositories"
[12:36] <apokryphos> karthik: these repositories are particular locations on the web with a whole horde of applications and programs. You can use Synaptic to easily and directly install packages from these repositories
[12:36] <apokryphos> !synaptic
[12:36] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:37] <apokryphos> karthik: see that page for more information and instructions on how to use it.
[12:38] <ideogram> hmmm ubuntu clutters up my GRUB menu -- now I have to edit it
[12:38] <Ng> ideogram: clutters with what?
[12:38] <apokryphos> it does?
[12:38] <zzyber> HI, im suffering a disk crach and im thinking of switching back to ubuntu after this terrible time of xp, i have only one problem and maybe you have a solution for me.  However: are you sure it doesn't work in any other browsers?
[12:39] <Ng> ideogram: you can remove old kernels with synaptic or apt-get
[12:39] <apokryphos> zzyber: sometimes you can evade such problems by simply identifying your browser as Internet Explorer.
[12:39] <Ng> ideogram: the rescue mode ones may well be worth hanging on to
[12:39] <redblades> ideogram, just comment them out
[12:40] <stefg> zzyber: check if you can run it with wine. And if you machine is powerful enough you still can use vmplayer to run an 'embedded' windows just for this from ubuntu
[12:40] <zzyber> apokryphosi i have tried several things but nothing seems to work
[12:40] <apokryphos> zzyber: did you try *that*, though?
[12:40] <mwe> but you don't need recue mode for several kernels
[12:40] <zzyber> stefg vmplayer...............thats new
[12:40] <apokryphos> zzyber: it's a bit of overkill if it's just a page that wants IE.
[12:41] <jpgvietnam> where ?
[12:41] <apokryphos> (if there's other solutions)
[12:41] <zzyber> apokryphos   hmm, is it possible to turn firefox into internet explorer to fool the application
[12:41] <ideogram> I can always boot from the CD can't I?
[12:41] <apokryphos> jpgvietnam: check in the channel topic
[12:41] <zzyber> www.alibaba.com
[12:42] <apokryphos> zzyber: I'm quite sure you can, yes; one second.
[12:42] <mwe> ies4linux makes it very easy to install IE in wine
[12:43] <Ng> mwe: what's hard about wine ie6setup.exe? ;)
[12:44] <apokryphos> that sucks, firefox doesn't have browser identification switch by default
[12:44] <apokryphos> zzyber: you can either use opera or grab the user agent firefox extension to do it
[12:44] <Ng> apokryphos: there are extensions
[12:44] <zzyber> apokryphos yes i didnt find it either
[12:44] <apokryphos> yup
[12:44] <Ng> or you can edit the string it sends in about:config
[12:45] <apokryphos> I guess the user agent extension should be nice enough; gonna try it out now.
[12:45] <anarchtic> i need help :(
[12:45] <[lallous] > https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1419/
[12:45] <apokryphos> !helpme
[12:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <[lallous] > https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/1429/
[12:45] <mwe> Ng: that it doesn't work properly like that. at least it didn't for me
[12:46] <mwe> Ng: it needs some other things installed as well
[12:46] <ideogram> how do I get Ubuntu to use my nVidia dual monitor configuration?
[12:46] <anarchtic> i dont have full access to my filesystem
[12:46] <Ng> mwe: that's true actually, it needs dcom
[12:46] <mwe> Ng: if it was always that easy nobody would bother a project like ies4linux
[12:46] <Ng> ideogram: is it two monitors connected to a single nvidia card?
[12:46] <ideogram> yes
[12:47] <zzyber> guys, i will give ubuntu one more try and i hope its possible to get it working now, you know i have been a slave to debian since version 1.2.........was it potato, no it was called slink i belive, anyway i think ubuntu is the best port yet for debian and this dist can be very big
[12:47] <Ng> ideogram: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo may be helpful. you should probably also read the nvidia driver README, it has a very good section on twinview
[12:47] <ideogram> yes I used twinview with Gentoo, didn't bother with Xinerama
[12:48] <anarchtic> i dont have full access to me ubuntu
[12:48] <ideogram> I should look for the nvidia driver README on nvidia's website, yes?
[12:48] <Ng> ideogram: the nvidia section of that page is actually about twinview and not xinerama
[12:48] <ideogram> oh ok
[12:48] <ideogram> that's cool
[12:48] <jamesstansell> apokryphos: I've used the user-agent extension with good results in the past
[12:48] <Ng> I just chucked it up there since it might be helpful for people ;)
[12:48] <apokryphos> zzyber: are you on windoze now?
[12:48] <dstan> um hi
[12:48] <dstan> can anyone help me with installing a dual monitor thingy on a powermac g4?
[12:48] <mwe> Ng: then there is all the dlloverrides that are needed to make ie run smoothly in wine
[12:49] <mwe> and that's quite a few
[12:49] <mwe> 50 or so
[12:49] <apokryphos> jamesstansell: cool, thanks.
[12:49] <zzyber> apokryphos<< yes im on windows now and actually i hate it and i feel like i never used a computer before,
[12:49] <Ng> mwe: oh well. I just use crossover ;)
[12:49] <apokryphos> zzyber: try to see if it'd work now, then.
[12:49] <anarchtic> y doesnt my user account have full access to filesystem directory
[12:50] <apokryphos> zzyber: either grab the firefox extension ( addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/ - or perhaps jamesstansell can recommend one), or try with opera
[12:50] <mwe> good for you. I don't wanna buy that just for using ie when I can just dl ies4linux
[12:50] <apokryphos> anarchtic: like what?
[12:50] <zzyber> apokryphos<< actually i swithched to windows because i dindt have the time to hack all problems with compabillity issues with unbuntu, all software is written for ie and xp and that sucks
[12:51] <apokryphos> depends entirely on what you use, or expect to use
[12:51] <anarchtic> like to put stuff in the folder opt
[12:51] <Ng> mwe: good for you. i don't want to  use ie, so the less time/effort involved, the better, plus I can use all their stupid web plugins ;)
[12:51] <apokryphos> anarchtic: you of course won't have write-access there, as user.
[12:51] <apokryphos> but I'm reasonably certain you have read privs
[12:51] <anarchtic> well to install a program i got  the instructions say to put the directory in there
[12:51] <apokryphos> Ng: you don't want to use IE!! What!
[12:51] <apokryphos> =)
[12:51] <mwe> I don't _want_ to use IE either. I have to for my web bank
[12:52] <Ng> mwe: get a better bank ;)
[12:52] <zzyber> so what do you guys think about this new version of ubuntu 6.06, is it better, more stable (can it be more stable?) faster, better graphics??
[12:52] <monomaniacpat> can anyone tell me why xorg would have loaded the wrong resolutions this morning?
[12:52] <mwe> the bank is good. just not their web bank
[12:52] <Lynoure> mwe: In Finland banks have pretty much moved from IE already ages ago... but this is the home of Linux :)
[12:52] <mwe> I'm not gonna switch bank because of that
[12:53] <anarchtic> what should i do
[12:53] <apokryphos> mwe: they *only* support IE?
[12:53] <Lynoure> mwe: But you can let them know you'd want them to support some other browsers too.
[12:53] <apokryphos> anarchtic: what do you want to do?
[12:53] <mwe> apokryphos: right
[12:53] <jamesstansell> mwe: when you try firefox with your web bank pages, what sort of errors are there?
[12:53] <apokryphos> mwe: file a complaint 8)
[12:53] <anarchtic> install xampp
[12:53] <mwe> apokryphos: yeah
[12:53] <mwe> apokryphos: it's annoying
[12:53] <apokryphos> particularly latest flash pages, are annoying, these days
[12:54] <mwe> apokryphos: the web bank is pretty good. It's just annoying it only works with IE
[12:54] <jamesstansell> mwe: what fails if you don't use MSIE?
[12:54] <apokryphos> mwe: what kind of results do you get when you change the user agent?
[12:54] <monomaniacpat> If my xorg specifies higher resolutions, why am I stuck in 1024x768??!
[12:55] <Ng> monomaniacpat: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, it will list all of the resolutions it examined and why they were rejected
[12:55] <minto> monomaniacpat: make sure your monitor's hfreq and vfreq are correct
[12:55] <mwe> apokryphos: it says internet explorer is needed. it uses some vbscript or something like that
[12:55] <Ng> monomaniacpat: unfortunately it's quite a large log, so if you get lost you can chuck it up onto a pastebin and we can take a look
[12:55] <mwe> or activex I think
[12:55] <ideogram> I need to be root to edit my Xorg.conf file and I don't know the password
[12:56] <monomaniacpat> Ng: it was working fine yesterday and the day before, but this morning it loaded a lower res - can I try a restart, or will that save the setup?
[12:56] <mwe> ideogram: password for what? sudo? that would be your user pass
[12:56] <bimberi> ideogram: use sudo (with your password)
[12:56] <ideogram> Oh i use sudo instead of su
[12:56] <ideogram> ok
[12:56] <KenSentMe> !sudo > ideogram
[12:56] <Ng> monomaniacpat: rebooting should be fine, I don't think it will save the resolution in your session
[12:56] <monomaniacpat> OK, back in a mo.
[12:57] <ideogram> yeah I'm readiing the man page now
[12:57] <LoPMX> hello
[12:57] <apokryphos> hi
[12:57] <LoPMX> how can i change date and timezone in console?
[12:58] <jamesstansell> mwe: I company I worked for last year had a timesheet web site that said Internet Explorer was needed
[12:58] <auge02> i'm think yes
[12:58] <b14ck> i have problem: when firefox is using soundcard for playback xmms gives error saying the audio card is used by another program. can i fix this?
[12:59] <anarchtic> can anyone tell me how to install xampp on ubuntu
[12:59] <Ng> LoPMX: you can change timzeone with "sudo tzconfig"
[12:59] <monomaniacpat> ctrl alt bkspc did the trick.. *weird* - was it because the monitor was off when it loaded the drivers?
[12:59] <mwe> jamesstansell: yes?
[12:59] <Ng> anarchtic: are you sure you want to install xampp? all of the lamp packages are available in ubuntu already
[12:59] <Ng> !lamp > anarchtic
[12:59] <Ng> monomaniacpat: yes
[12:59] <jamesstansell> mwe: when I used the user-agent extension to tell it Firefox was Internet Explorer all the pages worked fine
[12:59] <anarchtic> how do i get lamp
[01:00] <monomaniacpat> Ng: why would it do that?
[01:00] <mwe> jamesstansell: well it needs to run some activex scripts I believe
[01:00] <LoPMX> Ng thanks
[01:00] <Ng> monomaniacpat: if you don't list horizontal/vertical refresh settings for the monitor in the xorg.conf it probes them at runtime with EDID or DCC. if the monitor is off it can't get those details, so falls back on a safer mode
[01:00] <Ng> anarchtic: ubotu should have just messaged you the details
[01:00] <monomaniacpat> ok
[01:00] <anarchtic> k thx
[01:01] <TeemuR> is anyone here running Edgy?
[01:01] <monomaniacpat> if I put # symbols at the start of a line in xorg, that should comment out right? How can I check which driver my mouse is using?
[01:01] <jamesstansell> mwe: if it really uses activex, I don't think the Firefox activex plugin works on LInux.  I've never tried MSIE on wine, so I don't know whether ActiveX works there or not
[01:02] <mwe> jamesstansell: it does. I'm using it
[01:02] <minto> monomaniacpat: yes
[01:02] <mwe> jamesstansell: I use IE in wine just for the bank
[01:02] <jamesstansell> mwe: cool
[01:02] <Goose> my old computer only has a USB CD drive, and can't boot from that... is there anyway of installing Ubuntu from the HDD...?
[01:03] <monomaniacpat> minto: the other day I commented out some repos like that and they were still checked by update :?
[01:03] <mwe> jamesstansell: it would be way cooler if they were not so lame to provide an IE only solution though
[01:03] <jamesstansell> goose: there should be a way to boot with floppy, then install from CDROM
[01:03] <b14ck> when firefox is using soundcard for playback xmms gives error saying the audio card is used by another program. can i fix this and make them both play sound at the same time?/?
[01:04] <jamesstansell> goose: I'm going to have to figure out how to do that for my old computer when I get it out of storage
[01:04] <Goose> jamesstansell: okay... is there anywhere i can get the files needed to do that?
[01:04] <jamesstansell> mwe: be sure to let them know that you'd like to see a change
[01:05] <minto> Goose: does the machine have a floppy drive?
[01:05] <mwe> yeah
[01:05] <Goose> minto: only an external one... not sure if it can boot from it...
[01:05] <Hudson_H> hi i have a big problem,can someone help me,cause i can't lose the data on my hd's i had a problem with a partition it keep saying bad superblock,i finely managed that,but now all my other partitions have a bad superblock
[01:05] <minto> Hudson_H: what filesystem?
[01:06] <stefg> !info gnucash
[01:06] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.8.12-6ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1288 kB, installed size 3912 kB
[01:06] <Hudson_H> ntfs
[01:06] <monomaniacpat> Is there any way to stop gnome auto-loading cd's as CDDA?
[01:06] <mwe> actually it's possible to use another browser if you buy an "activecard", a thing that provides a new pin code for you everytime you use it. but I don't wanna buy that
[01:06] <minto> Hudson_H: have you booted from a windows install cd and tried any of the diagnostic tools?
[01:07] <Hudson_H> minto: not tried to boot in windwos yet
[01:07] <minto> did you write to that disk from linux?
[01:08] <Hudson_H> minto: at one yes,and the second no,but not writed in the ntfs partitions
[01:08] <minto> i would first try to boot from a windows install cd and repair the disk.  failing that, boot into windows and see what happens.
[01:08] <Hudson_H> ok,lets hoop that its not lost,to much info on that
[01:09] <Hudson_H> brb
[01:09] <mwe> I heard just deleting files on NTFS should be pretty safe. does someone know the status of that?
[01:09] <Subhuman> well mwe, the worst that can happen is you loose the file? which is what you were trying to do.
[01:10] <Subhuman> so i can see how it could go that wronf.
[01:10] <mwe> well yes :)
[01:10] <mwe> as long as it doesn't currupt the fs
[01:12] <minto> because, hey, winfs is still vaporware ;-)
[01:12] <Ng> it always will be, they've withdrawn it as a product
[01:12] <Ng> not that this is on-topic ;)
[01:13] <jamesstansell> supposedly captive-ntfs allows full RW support for NTFS under Linux.  Has anyone tried it?
[01:14] <minto> Subhuman: i see what you're saying esepcially in the area of permissions, quotas, and such
[01:14] <mwe> afaik it doesn't work right in ubuntu. at least it didn't in breezy
[01:15] <Subhuman> its just because reverse engineering an entire filesystem is difficult.
[01:16] <jamesstansell> http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[01:17] <Schalke1> how do i enable video preview in nautilus?
[01:20] <Mon> i'm running Ubuntu Dapper and my gnome-panel(s?) went a bit buggy
[01:20] <anarchtic> how do u install lamp i cant figure it out
[01:20] <Mon> so i deleted one, but with the 2nd the "delete panel" option is grayed out
[01:20] <Schalke1> nevermind! i found out the problem! (you have to delete the old thumbnails in the .thumbnails directory for them to be refreshed!)
[01:20] <Mon> why's that? i want to make a clean start with new panels
[01:20] <MistaED> minto: minto as in the campbelltown suburb? :P
[01:21] <minto> no
[01:21] <minto> its my hobbit name
[01:21] <n0k|a> haha
[01:21] <Schalke1> Mon: well i think it has realised that if you delete that panel where would you right click to add the first new one?
[01:21] <MistaED> minto: fair enough
[01:21] <anarchtic> how do u install lamp i cant figure it out
[01:22] <Mon> Schalke1: hmm good point :)
[01:22] <minto> anarchtic: install apache, mysql, and php
[01:22] <Dribbel> hi
[01:22] <anarchtic> php install command dont work
[01:22] <Mon> Schalke1: do you know how i can delete 100% of my panel configuration then? i went through gconf-editor but that didn't get me far
[01:22] <swim> does anyone happen to know what package glib-gettext might be in?
[01:22] <Dribbel> any one want to help with a weird X / nvidia problem
[01:23] <thomaswebb> hi, i have a problem which seems a little strange to me
[01:23] <Subhuman> which is?
[01:23] <johnny69> Good morning room...just lost my entire Suse install due to a reiser FS going apeshit and eating half the contents...so I have been looking at trying another distro since I have start over anyways.  So I have a few questions for you.
[01:23] <Subhuman> Dribbel, whats the problem?
[01:23] <Subhuman> johnny69, shoot.
[01:23] <thomaswebb> i am trying to update libcairo2.0
[01:24] <thomaswebb> but when i try to it says: libcairo2:
[01:24] <thomaswebb>   Depends: libfreetype6 (>=2.2.1) but 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed
[01:24] <thomaswebb> yet 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1 is installed?
[01:24] <thomaswebb> any ideas?
[01:24] <johnny69> ok thanks...what kind of turnaround time is there for new thingies to hit the ubuntu repos ?  For instance...Kopete version 0.12  I think it is...has been out for at least a few weeks...yet cannot be had ANYWHERE in the suse repo's...(and I've got them all!)  Is Ubuntu fairly quick about adding these?
[01:25] <Dribbel> Subhuman: my X wont start/ freezes the pc when enable nvidia-glx
[01:25] <Dribbel> Subhuman: The x-log is very empty
[01:25] <Subhuman> Dribbel, does it crash on starting x?
[01:26] <thomaswebb> does anybody have any idea how i fix this problem?
[01:26] <Dribbel> Subhuman: i think so, when starting x from the console (startx) it blanks, and then freezes the whole pc, no terminal or waht so ever can be reached
[01:26] <Subhuman> johnny69, debian/ubuntu are stability first, so versions are seldom bleeding edge, if you want bleeding edge, you prob want Fedora or Gentoo
[01:26] <erUSUL> johnny69: ubuntu has a fixed 6 month release cycle. new packages are not added to already released version.  What process is controlling the media buttons on my keyboard by standard? Need to know so I can remove it :p
[01:31] <Subhuman> stelki, system.preferences.keyboardshortcuts
[01:31] <monomaniacpat> Is there any way to stop gnome auto-loading cd's as CDDA?
[01:31] <ltibor65> Hi! How can I add a new path to PYTHONPATH? What is the precise syntax?
[01:32] <stelki> Subhuman: aha, thank you
[01:33] <johnny69> I noticed when grabbing the ISO for Ubuntu...there is just one.  Is it actually a one CD install...with the rest being a,  "net install"?  (for lack of a better term?)
[01:33] <stelki> johnny69: asin you download the additional pakages whjen you need them
[01:34] <johnny69> stelki:   good....hell I don't think I have more than ONE cd to burn anyways.   :)
[01:34] <stelki> johnny69: which ensures you dont get age old packages, apart from saving downloading, hehe
[01:37] <johnny69> Groovy...I think I might give that a whirl right now.
[01:37] <johnny69> Thanks gentleman
[01:37] <TheDevil> hello
[01:38] <thomaswebb> i guess no one can help me?
[01:38] <TheDevil> i'm kinda new to this irc thingy. how on earth do you join a chanel?
[01:38] <Subhuman> TheDevil, your in a channel now
[01:38] <Subhuman> but you connect to the server
[01:38] <Subhuman> then type
[01:38] <stelki> TheDevil: /join #channel probably
[01:38] <Subhuman> /join #channel
[01:39] <TheDevil> yeah... but i just did "/join #chanel"
[01:39] <Pecisk> so you are in channekl
[01:39] <Pecisk> channel
[01:39] <TheDevil> how do i join specific chanels?
[01:39] <Pecisk> now
[01:39] <mwe> thomaswebb: is works here. maybe your sources.list is broken
[01:39] <stefg>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic e.g. is a valid command
[01:39] <stelki> TheDevil: replacing channel with the name of the channel you want to join
[01:40] <Pecisk> TheDevil: find out which channel you want to join and then do it by providing name instead of 'chanel'
[01:40] <thomaswebb> in my sources list i have:
[01:40] <thomaswebb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[01:40] <thomaswebb> deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free
[01:40] <thomaswebb> # The above lines were generated automatically by EasyUbuntu 3.02 Release
[01:40] <thomaswebb> # The rest of your sources.list follows
[01:40] <TheDevil> ok. cool. what about the servers??
[01:40] <TheDevil> there are too many servers? and the channels are they unique to each server?
[01:40] <TheDevil> which IRC utility is best?
[01:41] <mwe> TheDevil: that depends on who you ask and what you want
[01:41] <thomaswebb> oops
[01:41] <mwe> thomaswebb: don't paste in the channel please
[01:41] <mwe> thomaswebb: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:41] <cypher> other than ubuntu an offshoot of debian is there any big difference ?
[01:41] <stefg> http://www.irchelp.org/ might help
[01:41] <bimberi> !debian
[01:41] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[01:41] <TheDevil> cheers
[01:42] <mwe> thomaswebb: however, what is the freecontrib.org mirror? maybe it has broken packages
[01:42] <akcom> exit
[01:42] <thomaswebb> my sources list has all the standard ubuntu reps enabled, plus the amarok one, plus this one: deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main for gset-compiz
[01:42] <cypher> bimberi, thanks.. but the question was all of which is available in ubuntu will be available in debian also right ?
[01:42] <TheDevil> cheers all bye.
[01:43] <mwe> thomaswebb: well one of them are broken it seems
[01:43] <auge02> how can install mc under ubuntu?
[01:43] <stefg> !easysource
[01:43] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:43] <mwe> thomaswebb: maybe the compiz or contrib one
[01:43] <stefg> repos>auge
[01:43] <stefg> repos>auge02
[01:44] <stefg> !info mc
[01:44] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:44] <mwe> !repos > auge02
[01:44] <stefg> thanks mwe ;-)
[01:44] <auge02> yes i mean midnight commander
[01:45] <stefg> !info mc
[01:45] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB
[01:45] <stefg> auge02: enable the universe-repos, then sudo apt-get install mc
[01:46] <thomaswebb> just updating...
[01:46] <auge02> couldn't find pachage
[01:46] <thomaswebb> the sources list that is
[01:48] <thomaswebb> ok, it did seem to be the gset-compiz rep that caused the problem, things seem ok now thank you
[01:48] <bimberi> cypher: not totally.  I understand there are a few packages that are only in Ubuntu.  But I don't think it's a large number
[01:48] <Hudson_H> hi i used gparted on a disk,b4 i closed it it said it could confuse my kernel,now i can't reach any ntfs partition anymore
[01:48] <cypher> bimberi, ok thanks
[01:49] <eXistenZ> Huahua, jparted s0x0rz
[01:49] <eXistenZ> Hudson_H, gparted s0x0rz
[01:49] <saispo> what is the 3rd party repository needing for multimedia and other stuff ?
[01:49] <saispo> the best 3rd party, excuse me
[01:50] <stefg> Hudson_H: paste the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' to pastebin... maybe the part-numbers changed
[01:50] <pmo> anyone know where i can get a trusted .deb of ndiswrapper ?
[01:50] <redblades> Okay, I'm lost. how do I copy the content of a file to another?
[01:50] <fourat> hello all
[01:50] <fourat> wich apt source can provide this package : kernel-kbuild for kernel 2.6.8-3
[01:51] <stefg> cat file1 >file2
[01:51] <thomaswebb> now i have another problem, this time it is: libxfixes-dev: Depends: libxfixes3 (=1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3) but 1:4.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[01:52] <stefg> !plf
[01:52] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[01:52] <Hudson_H> stefg: where do i find the part bin again?
[01:52] <redblades> stefg, In perl?
[01:52] <stefg> perl?? huh?
[01:53] <Dribbel> Subhuman: That didn't work. Selecting the nvidia driver locks up the pc, Reseting the driver to nv seems to solve it, but i still don't have a OpenGL GLX not supported error
[01:53] <stefg> Hudson_H: open a terminal 'sudo fdisk -l' and paste to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:53] <stefg> report the link back in here
[01:53] <lbo> hi, is there someone who can help me solving a problem with gcc?
[01:54] <Subhuman> Dribbel, try using easyubuntu to install the nvidia drivers
[01:54] <Subhuman> !easyubuntu
[01:54] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:54] <Subhuman> its safe.
[01:54] <erUSUL> saispo: is not third party is multiverse. you can add also seveas repo for w32codecs
[01:54] <erUSUL> !source-o-matic
[01:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:55] <pmo> anyone know where i can get a trusted .deb of ndiswrapper ?
[01:55] <Hudson_H> stefg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17083
[01:55] <Ro1> anyone know how to submit art to the art department
[01:56] <rsin> hey can some one tell me how to start the xwindows
[01:56] <erUSUL> pmo: from the oficial repos?
[01:56] <erUSUL> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[01:56] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[01:56] <Ro1> anyone know the develpment chat room
[01:56] <Ro1> !development
[01:56] <stefg> Hudson_H: ok, so the partitions are there... what exactly do you mean by 'i can not access'?
[01:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about development
[01:57] <Ro1> !dev
[01:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about dev
[01:57] <Ro1> what channel is the development?
[01:57] <Hudson_H> stefg: when i mount them,i get an error something about a superblock
[01:57] <Sionide> rsin, yeah
[01:57] <rsin> now do i start it?
[01:58] <rsin> well mines dosnt start
[01:58] <stefg> Hudson_H: Did you reboot after gparted finished? If not, do so
[01:58] <Hudson_H> stefg: error is in dutch
[01:58] <rsin> stay in terminal mode
[01:58] <rsin> ?
[01:58] <Hudson_H> stefg: i did it but not imideatly
[01:58] <stefg> I understood... germans tend to understand /written/ dutch
[01:58] <saispo> thks erUSUL but multiverse is present in dapper LTS ?
[01:59] <lbo> hello, can someone help me? i have a problem with compiling c-files. the libs (*.h - files) are unknown and i don't know how to change this
[01:59] <stefg> !mountwindows
[01:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about mountwindows
[01:59] <stefg> ooopsss, where is that fctoid gone?
[01:59] <Hudson_H> stefg: this error for the both ntfs partitions mount: slecht soort bestandssysteem, slechte optie, slecht superblok op /dev/hdf1
[02:00] <erUSUL> lbo: install build-essential