[13:42] <mlw1> I can't for the life of me get my resolution to be saved between sessions, it always resets to 1680x1050 instead of 1920x1200
[13:42] <GNUtoo> hello,is there a command in order to purge old kernels?
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> did u try doing a text only install?
[13:42] <garu> moDumassest I can't even open the screen resolution settings.which is weird
[13:42] <N1NCHN41L5> lesjohn
[13:43] <garu> moDumassest ATI
[13:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  remove the packages
[13:43] <intrinsyx> mlw1: Set your hsync and vsync in xorg.conf and then set modes "1920x1200"
[13:43] <lesjohn> no
[13:43] <lesjohn> how do i do that
[13:43] <moDumassest> garu. man i have never had an ati card so i cant help you, if i hear anything though il pass it on
[13:43] <amerio> net_demon : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[13:43] <moDumassest> !ati
[13:43] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[13:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, but i have to remove the kernels,its headers,its restricted modules etc...
[13:43] <lesjohn> N1NCHN41L5: is it too late for me to do text-only now?
[13:43] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: thanks
[13:43] <N1NCHN41L5> my ubuntu or xubuntu would ALWAYS hang
[13:43] <moDumassest> !sound
[13:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:44] <amerio> Tom-x how do you manage to use ur atheros without ndiswrapper?
[13:44] <erik__> i have problems getting the "unlock" button to work.. right now i can't change any system settings
[13:44] <halcyonCorsair> hey, can anyone tell me how ubuntu sets up partitioning when you use the guided setup?
[13:44] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yeah...just make sure you select the OLD packages and not the current....each will have a meta package that will remove the headers and stuff iirc...
[13:44] <N1NCHN41L5> so just go an download the ubuntu or whichever u want alt cd
[13:44] <erik__> and i have added my account to policykit and admin group
[13:44] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, ok thanks
[13:44] <garu> moDumassest ok...thanks alot
[13:44] <N1NCHN41L5> then install from ther - itll do a full disk install and u dont have to worry about data on there now
[13:44] <ToM-X> amerio: I don't lol, I use ethernet if ndiswrapper is not working..
[13:44] <v0lksman> erik__:  are you sure your user is part of the "admin" group?
[13:45] <emorris> halcyonCorsair: you can choose to use the whole disk, or cut some off your largest existing partition
[13:45] <kimx> hi
[13:45] <chazco> Hi... i normally install "gnome-bluetooth" and" gnome-vfs-obexftp" on a fresh install. Are these needed in 8.04?
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> IsotropicSpin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35437
[13:45] <erik__> v0lksman: i have made sure it's added to the group in /etc/group
[13:45] <erik__> v0lksman: should i check anywhere else?
[13:45] <halcyonCorsair> emorris: yes but if you use the whole disk, does it partition it and split some off for swap, or what?
[13:45] <amerio> ToM-X you know I never had a problem using atheros on gutsy without ndiswrapper , but after installing hardy , im using ndiswrapper for the 1st time , its working everytime I boot , but cannot detect any network
[13:45] <kimx> is there a tool in gnome (ubuntu 8.04) to manage the volumes/disks ??
[13:45] <iKernel> ToM-X, how's it going?
[13:45] <emorris> halcyonCorsair: i think so
[13:45] <garu> moDumassest the thing is, the effects are enabled, without the driver being enabled!i never had any problem like this before!
[13:45] <niki_> Hey
[13:46] <slytherin> chazco: none of them
[13:46] <arvind_khadri> kim_, gparted
[13:46] <IsotropicSpin> avrind_khadri: thx. will have a look
[13:46] <v0lksman> erik__: nope...as long as it was there that's a good start....if it wasn't and you just added it you will need to log out and back in for it to take effect...are you connecting to the machine remotely or are you on console?
[13:46] <iKernel> amerio, have you tried to modprobe ath_pci
[13:46] <kimx> I mean a tool to manage mountpoints
[13:46] <amerio> iKernel blacklisted
[13:46] <N1NCHN41L5> lesjohn - dont worry - even though its text only install - u get full gui system an all when its installed
[13:46] <erik__> v0lksman: this is a desktop computer. no remote connection
[13:46] <erik__> v0lksman: i added it and logged back in.. no change
[13:46] <chazco> Thanks slytherin
[13:46] <iKernel> amerio, that's strange why would it be blacklisted....
[13:46] <ToM-X> iKernel: Still searching :)
[13:46] <slytherin> kimx: what king od management do you want?
[13:46] <amerio> iKernel I did it lol
[13:47] <niki_> Question with GRUB.  I just ran "sudo grub" and had it reinstall itself.  I changed the boot order in the BIOS, now i'm in my linux distribution.  But I had to change from hd(1,0) to hd(0,0) which isn't right.  Can anyone explain to me why they are off?
[13:47] <iKernel> ToM-X, searching for what?
[13:47] <erik__> v0lksman: clicking the unlock button just freezes the window for a moment and gives me an windowsy "unknown error", heh
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, well remove the black list, ath_pci is needed
[13:47] <roocraig> login preferences trouble
[13:47] <v0lksman> erik__:  I remote to my desktop all the time and PolicyKit is picky about that...that's why I ask....
[13:47] <shane2_> does anyone know if the gnome desktop package is still broken for the server install?
[13:47] <Lainy> Yes, i got broadcom to work!!!
[13:47] <mattycoze> hey how do i downgrade the version of my bluez-utils?
[13:47] <kimx> slytherin: I don't understand your question
[13:47] <amerio> iKernel but im using atheros windows driver on ndiswrapper
[13:47] <N1NCHN41L5> dual booting linux OS"s ????????
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, well don't
[13:47] <Lainy> How do I downgrade my firefox so I can installplugins that will work?
[13:47] <iKernel> amerio, you should be able to get ath_pci to work
[13:48] <slytherin> kimx: when you say mount point management, do you want to create them or what?
[13:48] <emorris> kimx: you can change the mountpoints in places>computer, right click on ur part.>volume>settings
[13:48] <ToM-X> iKernel: How come it's saying my WIFI is not in use on Hardware Driver? Is it because I have Ndiswrapper enabled?
[13:48] <nickthorley> can anyone tell me the version of the kernel used by 8.04 before any updates?
[13:48] <amerio> iKernel so no need for ndiswrapper?
[13:48] <v0lksman> erik__:  well that is about all the troubleshooting I know of to make policykit work...hahaha...you may want to try re-installing the packages in Synaptic as I've seen it help some people....but unforunately that's about all I can offer... :)
[13:48] <iKernel> amerio, no
[13:48] <erik__> v0lksman: ah ok.. bummer
[13:48] <slytherin> shane2_: was there any bug for that?
[13:48] <iKernel> ToM-X, I don't know, but I thought you were going to compile and install madwifi?
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> Lainy, get the .deb from somewhere and remove the present and install it
[13:48] <slytherin> shane2_: and how did you try to install gnome desktop? which package did you choose?
[13:48] <ToM-X> iKernel: I have.
[13:48] <shane2_> slytherin, hmm, I think, but I can't remember, ahh, seems someone did file one.
[13:48] <roocraig> bug for screensaver preferences?
[13:48] <amerio> iKernel ok but when ndiswrapper disabled , wireless doesnt work even if the athpci is enabled
[13:48] <erik__> i might do a fresh install after work
[13:48] <iKernel> ToM-X, oh, okay, try a modprobe ath_pci then
[13:48] <DJones> nickthorley: I think <IP_ADDRESS> (from memory on an upgrade to 8.04 I've just done)
[13:48] <Lainy> arvind_khadri: Thank you.
[13:49] <kimx> emorris: thanks
[13:49] <iKernel> amerio, you probably need madwifi-tools
[13:49] <shane2_> slytherin, apt-get install gnome; apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment; apt-get install gnome-desktop
[13:49] <FooAtari> hey folks.  just got a quick question.  Rather than a fresh install I chose the upgrade option and so far everything seems to have gone smoothly and the system seems to running well.  I take it my system is now the same as it would be with a clean install of 8?
[13:49] <shane2_> slytherin, none of them worked
[13:49] <arvind_khadri> Lainy, but why do you want it
[13:49] <nickthorley> djones: thanks - just trying to find out if my wireless problem may be fixed in a later kernel
[13:49] <emorris> emorris: you dont need to put the /media/ in though
[13:49] <amerio> iKernel 1st I installed madwifi , wireless worked but same problem as ndiswrapper , wireless working and no network detection
[13:49] <v0lksman> erik__:  I have Hardy on about 5 machines and it does work...sounds like you have a package issue of some sort...
[13:49] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: Close enough.
[13:49] <kimx> emorris: but I need to configure a volume to be mounted on startup
[13:49] <emorris> **kimx
[13:49] <mattycoze> Does anyone know how to downgrade bluez-utils to ver <3.0?
[13:49] <ToM-X> iKernel: No Message appears.
[13:50] <FooAtari> thanks intrinsyx so nothing im missing out on or anything?
[13:50] <roocraig> anybody help with a sound issue-headphone sound but no speaker sound?
[13:50] <iKernel> ToM-X, ok, now try wlanconfig ath0 what does that give you
[13:50] <erik__> where can i find log files?
[13:50] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: Pulseaudio is now the default, so you should probably install the pa packages if you wanna manage your sound properly
[13:50] <slytherin> mattycoze: why, is there any problem?
[13:50] <moDumassest> my problem, any help would be awesome http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/369514-glitching-sound-ubuntu-7-10-8-04-a.html
[13:50] <nickthorley> can anyone tell me if its possible to find out if the kernel from the media may have been patched and what was fixed
[13:50] <erik__> the "Unknown error" error message does not help me very much
[13:50] <emorris> kimx: i know you can put it in fstab, but i dont know of a tool to do it
[13:50] <ToM-X> iKernel: Should I disable Ndiswrapper??
[13:50] <iKernel> ToM-X, yes
[13:50] <kimx> emorris: there was a tool since hutsy
[13:50] <v0lksman> erik__:  Yeah policykit needs some polishing...I think it was one of the "rushed" packages for this release...
[13:51] <amerio> iKernel how to edit blacklist file and modprobe conf file?
[13:51] <intrinsyx> FooAtari: And make sure you got ubuntu-desktop, that will ensure all of the default hardy packages were installed
[13:51] <mattycoze> slytherin, nah i wanted to try something from a few years ago
[13:51] <ToM-X> iKernel: ath0      No such device
[13:51] <emorris> kimx:hmm
[13:51] <NeT_DeMoN> madwifi tools?
[13:51] <barbarella> kinx: have you tried gnome-volume-manager?
[13:51] <iKernel> ToM-X, grr, um, try wlanconfig wifi0
[13:51] <ere4si> !madwifi
[13:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[13:52] <ToM-X> iKernel: Same again lol
[13:52] <roocraig> any audio/sound gurus here?
[13:52] <Fome> Hi! I'm having some problems with the sound after installing Hardy. I think it has something to do with the new soundsystem and the fact that I have two sound cards installed..
[13:52] <N1NCHN41L5> Dual Booting Linux with another Linux - Any Help????????
[13:52] <Lainy> I can no longer mark a thread as solved?
[13:52] <iKernel> ToM-X, okay, you've disabled ndiswrapper right? try modprobe ath_pci again
[13:52] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[13:52] <intrinsyx> Fome: install the pa-devchooser and select the proper default sound card, or enable simultaneous output
[13:52] <emorris> Lainy: no they are yet to enable that feature
[13:52] <ToM-X> iKernel: Hold on I shall reboot.
[13:52] <iKernel> ToM-X, then try iwconfig
[13:52] <Lainy> emorris: Ok, thanks.
[13:53] <iKernel> ToM-X, yeah might not be bad idea
[13:53] <BrianB04> Morning all: I have an oddball issue with Ubuntu. This morning I went to play a Quicktime movie. It popped up, asked if I wanted to find the right codec, it found two and I installed the FFMPEG codecs. Now, whenever I go to open another quicktime movie, it again pops up the request to search for a codec because 'The codec to play this movie is not installed'. Anyway to stop that.
[13:53] <Fome> intrinsyx: there is no package with that name
[13:53] <intrinsyx> er... sec, lemme look it up
[13:53] <N1NCHN41L5> Dual Booting Linux with another Linux - Any Help????????
[13:53] <slytherin> mattycoze: you will find the packages from gutsy or or feisty, search on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[13:53] <ere4si> NINCHNAILS: I do that - the last linux installed is the grub that is used
[13:53] <moDumassest> arrhhhgg this is hurting my brain
[13:53] <artti> I downloaded Ubuntu .iso file. How i should write it on cd. Some how i can't make it right.
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> N1NCHN41L5, only if you shoot
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, omg, just throw the linux installation disk in and you can partition your existing linux partition
[13:54] <roocraig> how do i install a flash plugin-rpm package?
[13:54] <arvind_khadri> artti, use brasero
[13:54] <Khamael> my wireless network adapter on my laptop stopped working after I upgraded to hardy. what can I do?
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, and then just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:54] <intrinsyx> fome: sorry, it's "padevchooser"
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, and put in your other linux distribution
[13:54] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, job done
[13:54] <slytherin> roocraig: don't use rpm package. there is flashplugin in ubuntu repositories
[13:54] <N1NCHN41L5> ere4si can i pm u????
[13:54] <N1NCHN41L5> i have 4 sep partitions - some of the puppy os require there OWN hd
[13:54] <erik__> hmm
[13:54] <nickthorley> anyone here had intel wireless 3945 problems and managed to fix them?
[13:54] <erik__> i have the sound stuttering problem as well
[13:55] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, well then bad luck
[13:55] <erik__> i tried selecting OSS in the system->prefs->sound dialogue
[13:55] <erik__> but no change
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, are you running esound?
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, no no no no NO
[13:55] <N1NCHN41L5> NO you way of just install and go DOESNT work - it chewed up ubuntu grub and its own grub wouldnt load
[13:55] <ere4si> NINCHN4IL5: k
[13:55] <iKernel> erik__, use alsa, and ONLY alsa, everything else is crap
[13:55] <N1NCHN41L5> leaving comp UNBOOTABLE
[13:55] <intrinsyx> Fome: Fire up synaptic, search for pulseaudio and grab padevchooser, paman, paprefs and pavucontrol
[13:56] <iKernel> erik__, unless you're running a big music recording station, which you should probably use a mac anyway, in that case, you should probably run pulseaudio as well or something
[13:56] <hydrogen> N1NCHN41L5: caps are bad, mmmkay?
[13:56] <erik__> uh?
[13:56] <slytherin> roocraig: install package flashplugin-nonfree
[13:56] <erik__> i switched to all alsa now
[13:56] <v0lksman> ?
[13:56] <iKernel> N1NCHN41L5, then you should've told it to not touch ubuntu's grub
[13:56] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[13:56] <iKernel> erik__, good
[13:56] <kimx> there should be a disk manager? How can I start it?
[13:56] <mheath> erik__: um, yeah...what everyone else is saying is true. oss is very similar to ALSA, but inferior, and has been obsolete (due to ALSA) for about 6 years. Don't use that. :-)
[13:56] <erik__> do i need to restart anything to make vlc use alsa?
[13:56] <amerio> iKernel how to remove ndiswrapper from modprobe?
[13:57] <barbarella> kinx: have you tried gnome-volume-manager?
[13:57] <artti> When burning image, what speed i should use?
[13:57] <Fome> intrinsyx: they are installed... I'm not sure I understand how to continue...
[13:57] <mheath> erik__: Your system doesn't even really support oss anymore, anyway...all that would be doing is ALSA simulating the old oss.
[13:57] <iKernel> amerio, modprobe -r <module you want to boot up the ass and get out for just a moment while you do something else>
[13:57] <intrinsyx> N1NCHN41L5: then reinstall ubuntu's grub. fire up the livecd, open up terminal, run sudo grub, and from the grub prompt, find /boot/grub/stage1, it'll return the device it found it on, root <device>, setup <device>
[13:57] <slytherin> erik__: restart vlc perhaps
[13:57] <arvind_khadri> artti, use somewhere around 4x or so to be safe
[13:57] <dagon_> artti; as low as possible
[13:57] <erik__> yeah, i just read this: http://fixunix.com/ubuntu/369514-glitching-sound-ubuntu-7-10-8-04-a.html
[13:57] <sailaway85> When running video converter(s) system crashes when ...  3d graphics enabled ... then when surfing win firefox ,,, is this a memory leak .... could it be a flash plugin ......
[13:57] <erik__> describing the same problem
[13:57] <intrinsyx> Fome: run padevchooser, and you should see a little "sheild". Click it to set a default card for output.
[13:58] <slytherin> erik__: have you changed the option in vlc to use alsa?
[13:58] <iKernel> ToM-X, how's it going?
[13:58] <artti> Now it is 4th time when i try to write image on cd.
[13:58] <iKernel> ToM-X, did you run iwconfig?
[13:58] <dooglus> can someone please tell me how to log out of GNOME using the keyboard?
[13:58] <dagon_> artti; what brand on cd's?
[13:59] <slytherin> sailaway85: is that a single problem or multiple problems? Can you please rephrase your question?
[13:59] <iKernel> dooglus, ctrl+alt+backspace
[13:59] <arvind_khadri> sailaway85, that would needed to be looked in strace
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: I want to log out of GNOME, not kill X.  any idea?
[13:59] <artti> dragon_, Digidata CD-R
[13:59] <intrinsyx> erik__: sudo apt-get install vlc-plugin-pulse
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: I can click the little green man thing, but I can't see the dialog that pops up
[13:59] <slytherin> dooglus: Ctrl + Alt + Delete should bring logout/shutdown dialog
[13:59] <mattycoze> hey while i'm here, is there any way to get rid of that annoyign error beep
[13:59] <erik__> slytherin: no, that was the problem. thanks!
[13:59] <iKernel> dooglus, set a log out keyboard shortcut
[13:59] <dooglus> slytherin: yes, I'm sure it does, but I can't see it
[13:59] <Fome> intrinsyx: sorry, for being stupid, but there is no obvious place to set the default card. (after I click the thing there is a list of different options)
[13:59] <amerio> Net_Demon anything new?
[13:59] <dooglus> iKernel: how?
[13:59] <dagon_> artti; tip: use tab :) it's dagon_, burn on TDK or Fujifilm, works perfect
[13:59] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, ctrl+alt+del
[14:00] <erik__> slytherin: i thought it was grabbing the default one from gnome
[14:00] <iKernel> dooglus, on mine it is system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
[14:00] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: when I do that, a dialog pops up.  what next?
[14:00] <intrinsyx> Fome: Look in your tray for an icon that looks like a plug
[14:00] <roocraig> how do I get synaptic to download files--doesn't want to work for me
[14:00] <sailaway85> slytherin one problem crahes when video converting.... 3d enabled and surfing with firefox .....
[14:00] <Fome> intrinsyx: yes, I clicked that
[14:00] <erik__> so, now it's only the administrative problem i need to solve
[14:00] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, use the log out thats it :)
[14:00] <Koheleth> I installed the 32bit because I did not like the 64bit, now I have them both!  How do I get rid of the 64bit installation?
[14:00] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I can't see it. can I use the keyboard to navigate that dialog?
[14:00] <Fome> intrinsyx: but then I don't know how to continue
[14:00] <mattycoze> oh thnk christ i fixed that
[14:00] <intrinsyx> Fome: select Volume Control, Output devices tab, look for a little sheild
[14:01] <slytherin> sailaway85: for video converting you will have to log a bug against the package you are using. But I haven't seen the one where FF crashes when 3d is unabled
[14:01] <iKernel> dooglus, you'll need a mouse in order to set the keyboard short cut, btw
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, try using tab in that box not sure whether it'll work or not
[14:01] <intrinsyx> Right click, "Default"
[14:01] <dooglus> iKernel: I have a mouse
[14:01] <artti> dagon_, then i have to buy those. i hoped that i can get try new Ubuntu.
[14:01] <amerio> !madwifi
[14:01] <nickthorley> whats the link for the ubuntu updates ftp area
[14:01] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[14:01] <cgentry72> can someone help me. i'm having a major issue with flash and firefox.  it will start playing a video and then stop.  i've restarted firefox and even reinstalled it.
[14:01] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I have tried, and also the arrow keys.  but I can't see the dialog, so I can't tell what those keys are doing
[14:01] <iKernel> dooglus, then use it and set a keyboard short cut
[14:01] <slytherin> dooglus: Can you please explain what do you mean by 'I can't see it'?
[14:01] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, what exactly is your problem
[14:01] <iKernel> ToM-X, tell me have you run iwconfig yet?????????????????????
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> slytherin, am on it
[14:02] <Cheesasaurus_Rex> Hello, can someone tell me how to boot without starting X just once? I need to do this in order to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers.
[14:02] <intrinsyx> Fome: or if you want output from both cards, click the plug, configure local sound server, simultaneous output tab, checkmark the box.
[14:02] <NeT_DeMoN> amerio: no but im giving up
[14:02] <slytherin> dooglus: you can simple use Alt + L to activate the logout button
[14:02] <dooglus> arvind_khadri: I want to log out.  the dialog that appears when I try to log out is in the middle of the screen.  the middle of the screen is all dead pixels, so I can't see it, and I can't move it elsewhere.  I think I need to use the keyboard
[14:02] <NeT_DeMoN> i will just stick to hardwire or vista :(
[14:02] <moDumassest> !audio
[14:02] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:02] <Fome> intrinsyx: didn't seem to work...
[14:02] <ere4si> cgentry72: flash is cp intensive - sure it isn't h/ware related?
[14:02] <v0lksman> artti:  it will work on any type of CD...no brand specific
[14:02] <ere4si> *cpu
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, ok use alt+l
[14:03] <cgentry72> ere4si, it's worked before until today so maybe i installed a plugin or something
[14:03] <dagon_> artti; are you using 7.10 now? then it's just an upgrade
[14:03] <nickthorley> net_demon: what card you got
[14:03] <Quiz_Master> Can anyone tell me where I can get DVD for Hardy ?
[14:03] <ere4si> cgentry72: did you update today?
[14:03] <cgentry72> ere4si, no
[14:03] <arvind_khadri> Quiz_Master, google it
[14:03] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: atheros
[14:04] <Fome> intrinsyx: do I have to restart or something+
[14:04] <Quiz_Master> arvind_khadri: Nahi mil rahi bhai... Cant Find It
[14:04] <IsotropicSpin> All I want to do i to be able to play MP4. and i have installed Medibuntu and it is still not working
[14:04] <IsotropicSpin> any ideas?
[14:04] <albech> anyone else having issues burning the image?
[14:04] <arvind_khadri> Quiz_Master, :) it'll come soon try ebay
[14:04] <slytherin> Quiz_Master: this mighte be the place, not sure - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[14:04] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:04] <yao_ziyua1> what is the best dictionary program for linux? except stardict
[14:04] <sailaway85> slytherin: when using DeVeDe or tovin or vso(wine) vso(vbox).... as soon as I go into firefox system resets ......no log
[14:04] <artti> dagon_, i would like to make new install. But when writing on cd doesn't work then i make upgrade.
[14:04] <v0lksman> IsotropicSpin:  did you try VLC or mplayer?
[14:04] <slytherin> albech: what kind of issue?
[14:05] <IsotropicSpin> v0lksman: i did, but that was before medibuntu install
[14:05] <IsotropicSpin> should i try again?
[14:05] <cgentry72> ere4si, the videos start for about 3 seconds and then just stop.  they continue to download but won't play past 3 seconds
[14:05] <slytherin> sailaway85: that is weird, any chance it is a problem with RAM
[14:05] <mattk> firefox and flash crash when i browse to youtube.... is this a known problem?
[14:05] <cousin_luigi> is j2re1.4 gone for good from hardy?
[14:05] <artti> dagon_, currently i use Ubuntu for 32-bit system but i have 64-bit system.
[14:05] <albech> slytherin: i have tried several burning software and they seems to burn just fine, but its like the disk isnt finalized so it cannot be read
[14:05] <v0lksman> IsotropicSpin:  naw if VLC or mplayer didn't play it then I'd say there may be something wrong with the file...can you test a different file?
[14:05] <artti> mattk, i have same problem.
[14:05] <jerzyk86> is somthing like deamon tools but for linux ???
[14:05] <cgentry72> mattk, it is and i'm having sort of the same issue except mine just won't play
[14:05] <artti> mattk, i know why is that.
[14:05] <arvind_khadri> sailaway85, do a ram test
[14:05] <cousin_luigi> jerzyk86: mount -o loop
[14:05] <dagon_> artti; okey I see :) try burning as slow as possible, like 2x or 4x
[14:06] <mattk> artti: cool, ok so we can log a bug?
[14:06] <v0lksman> dagon_:  why?
[14:06] <artti> I always have done that way.
[14:06] <slytherin> albech: are you trying to burn any ubuntu image? Are you sure that image itself is not corrupt?
[14:06] <IsotropicSpin> v0lksman: yeah i will check it out now
[14:06] <artti> mattk, i know that flash don't work on 64-bit system.
[14:06] <cgentry72> mattk, no, it's always been that way and i've fixed it before but can't now
[14:06] <ere4si> cgentry72: I would think that might be a loose heatsink or fan not working - the software is there to run the vid
[14:06] <sailaway85> slytherin: did ram check ... ok .... going to remove macrovision plugin in firefox....  and try it....
[14:06] <albech> slytherin: yes, the image can be loaded with isomount etc. and its the latest ubuntu image
[14:06] <mysling> ive got 64bit, and flash works fine.
[14:06] <arvind_khadri> artti, flash works on a 64 bit one
[14:07] <nickthorley> net_demon: i tried to install last night but it wouldnt pick up my card either - it worked fine in 7.10
[14:07] <cgentry72> ere4si, that's kind of strange cause it's worked yesterday
[14:07] <dagon_> v0lksman; why what?
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> artti, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:07] <slytherin> albech: still it would be good to verify the checksum of image.
[14:07] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: what driver you have?
[14:07] <cgentry72> mysling, i've got 64bit also and it worked fine yesterday
[14:07] <mattk> artti i'm not running 64 bit.... I've got the same deal as cgentry72 plays for a couple of seconds and then you lose the lot... also there is no sound at all
[14:07] <artti> arvind_khadri, done that several times and it is said that it won't work on 64-bit system.
[14:07] <nickthorley> net_demon: not sure - my card is intel one and used a restricted driver before
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> artti, its works for me
[14:08] <fdr> hi! what's the best way to edit partitions with a GUI? gparted?
[14:08] <bhsx> jerzyk86: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-and-unmout-iso-images-without-burning-them.html
[14:08] <mysling> artti: tried 8.04?
[14:08] <v0lksman> dagon_:  why are you telling artti to use specific brands and slow down his burn?
[14:08] <ere4si> cgentry72: My only thought ...
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; speaking out of experience
[14:08] <bhsx> or just use the mount command for loopback
[14:08] <slytherin> fdr: yes
[14:08] <artti> mysling, burning 8.04 image on disk
[14:08] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: atheros is worse, trust me ;)
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; -out of + from
[14:08] <v0lksman> dagon_:  issues like that are completely drive specific...
[14:08] <N1NCHN41L5> arti - or just do sudo aptitue ubuntu-restricted-extras, gives u everything
[14:08] <dagon_> v0lksman; not always
[14:08] <mysling> artti: im sure you will have no problems with it :D
[14:09] <sailaway85> slytherin: also have divx web plugin ... going to remove.... could it be a memory overlap or leak?
[14:09] <timo> hey all hardy rocks :)
[14:09] <slytherin> sailaway85: form where did you get the divx plugin?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> artti, hey ok i guess there was a bug for that,but that was in 7.10 maybe the tweak can work for you
[14:09] <nickthorley> net_demon: i think the wireless support is very bad in linux general - it always seems to be the problem area - I wouldnt mind but i would have thought intel chipset would work perfectly but it seems not
[14:09] <N1NCHN41L5> GPARTED works GREAT - just make sure what u are trying do do (drive) isnt mounted
[14:09] <erik__> any news on unlock button not working?
[14:09] <LainIwakura> Hello, I just changed my openssh config, but when  I try to restart it via "sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" it says not such file or directory. How do I restart OpenSSH then? Thanks.
[14:09] <bhsx> jerzyk86: there's also a GUI for it called gnomeiso
[14:09] <v0lksman> dagon_:  uhm...ok...I build machines for a living...I use cheap generic CDs on usually generic drives and haven't had issues for years....
[14:09] <pallavi> Hi
[14:09] <artti> Again, it is just copied .iso file to disk.
[14:09] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work.  Any thoughts?
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, hi
[14:10] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: yeah, linux does suck with wireless
[14:10] <moDumassest> daft punk sounds really scratchy, i cant seem to fix this, has anyone had sound issues thus far?
[14:10] <jerzyk86> thx :)
[14:10] <pallavi> I am new to ubuntu
[14:10] <ToM-X1> Right, I'm back with my crappy WIFI problem :P
[14:10] <dagon_> v0lksman; that's good, really. But I've had bad experience with lowprice cd's, no matter what burner I've used
[14:10] <bazhang> moDumassest: what is that
[14:10] <bhsx> jerzyk86: actually, it's called gmountiso
[14:10] <albech> v0lksman: i have had experiences with disks too, where it helped to slow down the burn speed
[14:10] <pallavi> can u please tell me how to login as a root user
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, do you have a support question
[14:10] <moDumassest> music is really scratchy
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, why do you want to do that
[14:10] <cgentry72> i'm removing anything that has to do with firefox and then reinstalling flash
[14:10] <moDumassest> using alsa, have googled it no one knows
[14:10] <arvind_khadri> !root
[14:10] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:10] <bhsx> jerzyk86: 'sudo apt-get install gmountiso'
[14:10] <slytherin> !tell pallavi about sudo
[14:10] <N1NCHN41L5> pallavi SUDO
[14:10] <sailaway85> slytherin: Actually I'm not sure... I think it came from firefox?
[14:10] <IntangibleLiquid> if a wifi network appears in the nm-applet, does it mean that my wifi work? My wifi LED lights up during boot time then dims, is this a problem?
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> !sudo | pallavi
[14:11] <ubotu> pallavi: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[14:11] <nickthorley> net_demon: i used to use fedora but when got a laptop it wouldnt work with wireless and thus tried ubuntu which worked first time so was really happy but then new version of ubuntu comes out and no support  - great
[14:11] <albech> v0lksman: cant say anything about disks since they are mostly produced on the same factories, just added different logos
[14:11] <pallavi> because when i am trying to copy folders it is saying operation not permitted
[14:11] <v0lksman> albech:  I'm not saying you WON'T have issues...but since we don't know what make/model artti has it seems silly to jump the gun and tell him to slow it down and buy new CDs
[14:11] <moDumassest> !alsa
[14:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:11] <N1NCHN41L5> sudo apt-get install program
[14:11] <ifireball> LainIwakura: are you sure OpenSSH is installed? /etc/init.d/ssh should be there
[14:11] <crashanddie> IntangibleLiquid, it usually means you're on the good way
[14:11] <erik__> !unlock
[14:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unlock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:11] <N1NCHN41L5> or sudo aptitude install program
[14:11] <ToM_x> Ah, iKernel has gone -_-
[14:11] <bhsx> IntangibleLiquid: yes, it should be working if there's a wireless network in nm-applet
[14:11] <cgentry72> no luck with that
[14:11] <NeT_DeMoN> nickthorley: its always worked for my intels, just atheros is the first problem ive had
[14:11] <spiniker> hello
[14:11] <spiniker> room
[14:11] <pallavi> ya i can login as root in a terminal
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> pallavi you cant copy paste into root folder
[14:12] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, it didn't remove my linux-headers...
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, i meant in X
[14:12] <spiniker> i just upgraded to the new 8.04,but i cant seem to get my emerald themes to work..
[14:12] <LainIwakura> ifireball: I only need openssh-client, right?
[14:12] <spiniker> any ideas?
[14:12] <pallavi> i am not pasteing into root folder
[14:12] <brackettt> hello, upgraded ubuntu yesterday, now it wont make it past the login screen anything i can do?
[14:12] <v0lksman> dagon_ albech:  All I'm saying is the best way to know is to try burning at full speed on the disks you have...If that doesn't work then try slowing it down...if that fails then maybe look at new media...
[14:12] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work.  Any thoughts?
[14:12] <timo> I like you the way you tube works in totem :)
[14:12] <pallavi> i am copying from the root thats all
[14:12] <slytherin> sailaway85: Can you tell me what is the Filename for divx plugin? You can type about:plugins in the address location of firefox
[14:12] <albech> v0lksman: i totally agree with that
 <crashanddie>: thanks, I just cannot test it because the wifi is encrypted, but I did attempt to connect to a free wifi this afternoon without success. How can I activate the LED? My function key does not work for wifi
[14:12] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, to where
[14:13] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  what package did you end up removing?
[14:13] <ifireball> LainIwakura: depends on what you are trying to do, /etc/init.d/ssh restarts the server...
[14:13] <T4NK3R> lol
[14:13] <Heroin> Ruben?
[14:13] <T4NK3R> ben er eindelijk:)
[14:13] <slytherin> pallavi: it depends on what you are trying to access. Not everything in root folder has read access to everyone
[14:13] <arthur> Hi
[14:13] <pallavi> ya
[14:13] <bhsx> slytherin: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[14:13] <T4NK3R> hi
[14:13] <albech> v0lksman: but slowing down the burn is not a bad suggestion, and it definitely wont cause more failures ;)
[14:13] <ari_stress> hi guys, just installed hardy. but i cannot install build-essential, has anyone experience the same?
[14:13] <artti> I hope that Ubuntu 8.04(32-bit) works fine on AMD64.
[14:13] <crashanddie> IntangibleLiquid, check your syslog to see if you have any changes when using the function key
[14:13] <pallavi> sorry i made a mistake
[14:13] <skyowner> hi
[14:13] <N1NCHN41L5> sudo aptitude install is easier
[14:13] <pallavi> what i am trying to say is
[14:13] <v0lksman> artti:  it does.... :)
[14:14] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Well, I added "ServerAliveInterval 120" to ssh_config, so I thought I needed to restart it so the changes will go into effect. But there is no ssh restart...
[14:14] <skyowner> i don't understand one thing, is UBUNTU 8.04 compatible with standart French Packages
[14:14] <skyowner> ?
[14:14] <arvind_khadri> ari_stress, put in the cd and install build-essential
[14:14] <titan_> I updated to hardy herron today but when it restarted it just gives me a load of text for an hour then hangs, i had to put the 7.10 live cd back in
[14:14] <v0lksman> albech:  not when you are eager to get going and you have to wait 45 minutes for a burn... :)
[14:14] <LainIwakura> ifireball: I am not running a ssh server on this computer, so I don't think I need  openssh-server
[14:14] <brackettt> im running ubuntu in safemode and it could run HAL what does that mean?
[14:14] <bhsx> slytherin: or you can add medibuntu to you apt sources and 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs'
[14:14] <pallavi> I am not touching the root contents
[14:14] <erik__> anyone exccept for me having problems with policykit and "unlock" button in system prefs after upgrade?
[14:14] <slytherin> bhsx: why are you telling me this?
[14:14] <timo>  brackettt: hi
[14:14] <bhsx> you asked for the divx package name...
[14:14] <albech> v0lksman: ahh you talking about failed burns due to flying cdrom burners? ;)
[14:14] <timo>  brackettt: did you gust update
[14:14] <phixxor> hey, does anyone know for sure how the heron image is lisensed?
[14:14] <nickthorley> is there an address i can browse the ubuntu updates area - browse the files etc so that I can view a list - like browsing the ftp area for them for instance
[14:15] <arthur> What is actually the easiest way to use java (in firefox) with ubuntu 8.04 amd64?
[14:15] <slytherin> bhsx: No, I am trying to debug the problem another user is facing.
[14:15] <ifireball> LainIwakura: like the name implies, ServerAliveInterval is a server configuration directive, you should be placing it on the server...
[14:15] <v0lksman> erik__:  did you try re-installing policykit and policykit-gnome?
[14:15] <bhsx> ah
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> crashanddie: thanks! I'll do that
[14:15] <pallavi> only what i want to do is i want to copy the dir which contains c files
[14:15] <erik__> v0lksman: nope.. i'll try that now i guess
[14:15] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to download the source code of a DEB program package?
[14:15] <slytherin> pallavi: Which file are you trying to access?
[14:15] <v0lksman> albech:  zaclty...hahahah
[14:15] <pallavi> which is in home folder
[14:15] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Okay, thanks.
[14:15] <Voxxi> nickthorley : maybe packages.ubuntu.com is what you are looking for?
[14:15] <brackettt> timo yeah yesterday. actually restarted the comp today. and now i can only log in with safe more
[14:15] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, to whre??
[14:15] <slytherin> pallavi: copy to where?
[14:15] <pallavi> my own c files
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> also, I cannot find any option to disable join, quit messages. I'm getting too dizzy
[14:15] <IntangibleLiquid> using x-chat
[14:15] <LainIwakura> ifireball: But isn't ssh_config the config file for the client and sshd_config the one for the server? Thanks for your help.
[14:15] <artti> arthur, what you mean by using java?
[14:15] <ifireball> LainIwakura: no wait, my bad
[14:15] <pallavi> to a pendrive
[14:15] <sailaway85> slytherin: plugin from avi video
[14:15] <arthur> java applets
[14:16] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:16] <brackettt> mode*
[14:16] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Oh
[14:16] <arthur> @artti: java applets
[14:16] <timo>  brackettt: i had same issue , simple dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:16] <erik__> hmm, how do i reinstall packages?
[14:16] <artti> arthur, like installing?
[14:16] <slytherin> sailaway85: can you post any screenshot?
[14:16] <cgentry72> for those having issues with flash and firefox, i suggest removing all plugins for firefox and removing flash, then reinstall flash and reboot.  that worked for me
[14:16] <erik__> i have to remove them and install them? or is there a reinstall flag?
[14:16] <arthur> @ artti yeah but which package?
[14:16] <brackettt> timo type that into the terminal?
[14:16] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, ok type this cp /home/pallavi/*.c /path/to/where/it/shld/be/copied
[14:16] <artti> arthur, sun-java6-plugin i think
[14:16] <ha|0> hello, I'm having trouble writing to a particular partition, but with only one program.  I have to run it as root for it to work, though the folder is owned by my user.  Any thoughts?
[14:17] <slytherin> pallavi: what is the file system on the drive? is it FAT or NTFS?
[14:17] <PrivateVoid> Hello folks
[14:17] <AngryElf> is it possible to change the key bindings in various GTK/gnome apps? -- like gnome-terminal for example
[14:17] <arthur> @ artti : I will try - thanks!
[14:17] <timo> yeh sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[14:17] <ifireball> LainIwakura: yes, its a client directive, essentially /etc/ssh_config is the system-wide client configuration file, changes to it will take place the next time you run the client (e.g. the next time you run an "ssh" command)
[14:17] <bhsx> arthur: search software packages for 'icedtea'
[14:17] <Sajuukkhar> hey guys, my hardy wont partition my harddrive correctly so I will do it manually, what do i need to do?
[14:17] <arthur> @ bhsx: Ok
[14:17] <erik__> timo, v0lksman: hey! it worked
[14:18] <bhsx> use the icedtea plugin
[14:18] <pallavi> ok i will try one sec
[14:18] <brackettt> temo so just follow the instructions
[14:18] <v0lksman> erik__:  nice!   :)
[14:18] <artti> Heh... you know last week i had Vista on my computer.
[14:18] <timo> erik__: what did
[14:18] <Al00> *sigh* -- did a network upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 yesterday. Now, if I press any key on my numeric keypad (microsoft wireless keybaord) -- I get booted out of my session.
[14:18] <ifireball> LainIwakura: however, I think its a better practive to make client-side changes in your own home directory e.g. in the ~/.ssh/config file
[14:18] <Al00> Anyone else having this issue?
[14:18] <LainIwakura> ifireball: So restarting ssh is only applicable if I'm running a server.. and the changes I made to ssh_config will take effect once I run a "ssh" command? Thanks.
[14:18] <arthur> @ bshx: icedtea-java7-plugin
[14:18] <erik__> reconfiguring policykit
[14:18] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:18] <erik__> oh wait a minute
[14:18] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:18] <erik__> i think i've discovered a bug
[14:18] <bhsx> arthur: there ya go...
[14:18] <bhsx> use that
[14:18] <modoc> Itaku: mysql -u user -ppass db_Name < yourfile.sql
[14:18] <afallenhope> There's a lot of bugs with ubuntu
[14:18] <afallenhope>  lol
[14:18] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Oh okay. Thanks.
[14:18] <dooglus> thanks whoever it was told me about alt-d to logout.
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: i'm running a laptop with an additional screen
[14:19] <nickthorley> is there any way I can try 8.04 with all updates to see if my wireless card will work without installing it first?
[14:19] <ToM_x> Where is this MadWIFI guide on ubuntu forum for hardy lol
[14:19] <slytherin> arthur: which java version do you wich to use, the plugin package depends on that
[14:19] <ifireball> LainIwakura: yes, since the client doesn't rung in the background there is nothing to restart, its not started to begin with...
[14:19] <timo> be right back
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> dooglus, welcome
[14:19] <bhsx> nickthorley: yes, the livecd
[14:19] <brackettt> temo haha im getting alot of fails :)
[14:19] <Voxxi> nickthorley : use the live CD?
[14:19] <modoc> nickthorley: try the livecd
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: not using xinerama.. so when i run the admin app from my secondary display the unlock button doesn't work and give me the unexcpected error
[14:19] <LainIwakura> ifireball: Great, thanks.
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: but it works fine on the other screen
[14:19] <slytherin> dooglus: welcome
[14:19] <pawan> hi
[14:19] <arvind_khadri> pawan hi
[14:19] <sanozuke> does anyone knows were is the notepad in ubuntu
[14:19] <arthur> @slytherin I would like to use the latest one
[14:19] <nickthorley> i have the live cd which doesnt work but there may have been patches since which is what I am asking - can i try it with all patches?
[14:19] <v0lksman> erik__:  hahaha....file a bug on that for sure....
[14:19] <ha|0> hello
[14:19] <erik__> v0lksman: this is actually a bug, i guess the policykit or gnome app can't bind to the correct session or something
[14:20] <erik__> where do i file it?
[14:20] <sanozuke> does anyone knows were is the notepad in xubuntu
[14:20] <v0lksman> launchpad.net
[14:20] <slytherin> Itaku: it is not necessary that every .sql file will work with mysql
[14:20] <Itaku> i got a .sql file, how do i put it into a SQL db on my comp
[14:20] <bhsx> i've been testing the beta for about 6 weeks now... and i'm very impressed with the fixes that have gone in in the last week or so
[14:20] <ibleed> are the ubuntu dvd's that i'm seeing on torrent sites official canonical releases ?
[14:20] <bhsx> feels very solid
[14:20] <slytherin> arthur: I suggest you install sun-java6-* packages.
[14:20] <bazhang> sanozuke: the windows program notepad?
[14:20] <ha|0> can anyone help me?
[14:20] <Itaku> slytherin: i got the file but i want to put it in
[14:20] <slytherin> arthur: That is the most complete java currently
[14:20] <sanozuke> just like it
[14:20] <afallenhope> Ubuntu + Wine doesnt' go well
[14:20] <GNUtoo> hello, i've been trying to install nvidia proprietary driver during several hours...and i don't suceed....i realy need help...i have an xorg.0.log error...
[14:20] <arthur> @ slytherin: actually I am installing "icedtea-java7-plugin"
[14:20] <gord_>  nickthorley : explain for us "doesnt work" a bit more we see if we can help u here
[14:21] <v0lksman> afallenhope:  wyssat?
[14:21] <bazhang> sanozuke: perhaps gedit--just like it is only in windows though
[14:21] <bhsx> slytherin: icedtea works great, let him install that one
[14:21] <ndy> hi, anybody with a thinkpad r61 c2d8100, nvida nvs 140) around? and/or any idea why kubuntu live-cd is booting but ubuntu is hanging after starting the live-cd (does not boot hangs on bootscreen where you can choose if you want to install or try)
[14:21] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  have you tried envyng?  its in the universal repos
[14:21] <sanozuke> thank you
[14:21] <CTankred> Hi guys, does the new screen resolution tool works for you? Doesn't detect any sec. monitors here
[14:21] <slytherin> arthur: icedtea packages lack some classes like sound. So may not work with every applet
[14:21] <arvind_khadri> pallavi, did that work??
[14:21] <slytherin> Itaku: it is not necessary it will work. if it was made for oracle you need oracle installation on your machine.
[14:21] <v0lksman> erik__:  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[14:21] <arthur> @ slytherin: ok I will see... thank you!
[14:21] <bhsx> slytherin: icedtea sound works great over here
[14:22] <bazhang> ndy sounds like a bad burn or a corrupt iso
[14:22] <Heroin> Whats up with the Encrypt stuff in gnome?
[14:22] <sanozuke> thanks
[14:22] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, the problem is that at a kernel update it will break the module and the laptop won't have graphics ....and that is VERY problematic
[14:22] <nickthorley> gord_: well i cant get a wilress connection in 7.10 it came up asking if I would like to use a restricted driver which worked perfectly but in 8.04 this seems to have been removed for some strange reason - It may be available in a patched kernel or via other patches but I dont know this unless I install I guess
[14:22] <Itaku> uh ive seen this in my terminal for the past 5 mins. 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[14:22] <f0rmat> can someone tell me how to set the system so every time i add a user by default they can only access ~
[14:22] <ndy> bazhang: burned the ubuntu cd two times .. will try another one :)
[14:22] <slytherin> bhsx: no, you are certainly using something other than icedtea. Check 'java -version'
[14:22] <bhsx> Itaku: it's because the servers are getting SLAMMED
[14:22] <sailaway85> slytherin: removed divx plugin ... running tovin now without system rebooting
[14:22] <bhsx> just let it run
[14:22] <Voxxi> nickthorley : What type of wireless card do you have? Belkin, D-Link etc
[14:22] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  with envy or just when you install manually?
[14:22] <slytherin> Heroin: what with that?
[14:23] <Itaku> well crap
[14:23] <Heroin> slytherin: the encryption option in gnome.. in the filemanager
[14:23] <Itaku> ill try to find another place to download phpmyadmin
[14:23] <pallavi> i tried it is copied
[14:23] <nickthorley> voxxi: i have an intel 3945 abg card
[14:23] <pallavi> but i am not able to view the contents in it
[14:23] <loder> can I ask are many people trying the lazy way of upgrading to Heron or are you all being sensible and backing up and starting fresh. i always used to do a fresh install as awindows user, but I'm told aptitude especially does avery good job?
[14:23] <gord_>  nickthorley : ah ok got u now, yep use the live CD to install a system, THEN solve the wireless probem, do u have a a wireD network connection on the machine?
[14:23] <slytherin> Heroin: ever heard of gnupg?
[14:23] <bazhang> nickthorley that card not working?
[14:23] <modoc> once again ubuntu has given my hard drives names I can't find.
[14:23] <modoc> How can I list the known drives on the machine?
[14:24] <len> after updating to 8.04 my gnome-rdp gives this error: Error during the connection to database, uninstalling and installing the package dit not help
[14:24] <arthur> @ loder yeah no need to starting fresh ... I have done both ways several times and had no problems
[14:24] <ifireball> modoc: sudo fdisk -l
[14:24] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, before the update i had envy and now i want to install it the ubuntu way so it doesn't break during the kernel updates
[14:24] <v0lksman> !uuid > modoc
[14:24] <bazhang> loder well not really lazy; just like to continue on--your way is fine too though
[14:24] <bhsx> i installed icedtea-gcjwebplugin, which installed openjdk --jre
[14:24] <immesys> !uuid > me
[14:24] <bhsx> openjdk-6-jre, that is
[14:24] <nickthorley> gord_: yes I do.  how can i install patches and test though when the patches may need a reboot?
[14:24] <bullium> modoc: sudo fdisk -l
[14:24] <nickthorley> bazhang: no it doesnt
[14:24] <bullium> ifireball: sorry
[14:24] <modoc> ifireball, bullium, v0lksman: thanks!
[14:24] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  ahh...I think Alberto fixed that with EnvyNG...
[14:25] <bazhang> nickthorley: what does ifconfig show
[14:25] <bullium> modoc: yep
[14:25] <jojomas> so, funny thing happened partition editor doesn't detect my partitions, but i can see them from nautilus. je, I can't get past the LiveCD
[14:25] <Voxxi> nickthorley : Apparently, according to the linux wireless list, its fully supported. What have you tried to get it working
[14:25] <N1NCHN41L5> Anyone Know How to DUAL BOOT Multiple Linux OS"S??????
[14:25] <nickthorley> bazhang: unfortunately cant tell you as not with the machine at the moment
[14:25] <slytherin> bhsx: yes, that is different from icedtea-java-7 packages. But even openjdk is not complete AFAIK,
[14:25] <sanozuke> whooo
[14:25] <loder> bazhang i am thinking of doing that actually - Gutsy does everytihng I need and I actually rely on it as my main system now so I loathe to mess with awinning formula
[14:25] <arstanj> hi all, is the ubuntu repos lagging? does anybody experiencing this?
[14:25] <slytherin> N1NCHN41L5: grub installation wil take care of it
[14:25] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  may want to check with him in the forums though....Envy has been flawless for me with ATI in the past and so far with NG and nVidia it's been ok...but no kernel updates yet... ;)
[14:25] <mattycoze> hey how do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:25] <nickthorley> voxxi: i havent tried anything - it was autodetected before and I cant see why the driver should have been removed from a later version of the os - seems like a backward step to me
[14:25] <pallavi> Hi
[14:26] <artenius> N1NCHN41L5: grub
[14:26] <immesys> arstanj: all ubuntu sites are lagging
[14:26] <afallenhope> anyone know how I can completely restore Ubuntu? I don't know the partitions.. I just did the desktop installation. I want to reinstall. I jacked up all my modules some how.
[14:26] <bazhang> nickthorley: I have the exact same card and it works very well once you get it going--when you have a chance perhpas you can troubleshhot it
[14:26] <gord_>  nickthorley : ah, i meant actually INTALL the system onto hard disk using the live CD, but do u just want to test it witout disturbing the hard disk? not easy at all that way....
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> same here
[14:26] <JPSmon> what would happen if I ran wubi with wine???
[14:26] <N1NCHN41L5> artenius - GRUB is my only problem
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> i want to know what partitions i require to have
[14:26] <slytherin> N1NCHN41L5: and please don't use all caps. It is considered as shouting.
[14:26] <arstanj> immeys: thanks, so its not only my network
[14:26] <mattycoze> How do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:26] <sanozuke> how to you guys and girls read so fast
[14:26] <IndyGunFreak> JPSmon: lol, i think it would create a comedy of errors
[14:26] <Sajuukkhar> we dont
[14:26] <bazhang> loder well I would stick with gutsy until 804.1 if you know what I mean
[14:26] <Heroin> slytherin:  what is gnupg?
[14:26] <immesys> sanozuke: you don't you just look for your name and the name of the person you're talking to
[14:26] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, the problem is that i must finish the upgrade as soon as possible...so i don't know how long it'll take before having a response in the forums...
[14:27] <evand> JPSmon: ...it would work.
[14:27] <arstanj> immeys: I'm pretty much understand that ubuntu iso mirrors lags, but repos... esp they differ from country to country....
[14:27] <JPSmon> LOL, how?
[14:27] <bazhang> !tab | sanozuke
[14:27] <Voxxi> nickthorley: Maybe it was detected correctly, but not configured properly. Does it show up under the System > Admin > Network?
[14:27] <ubotu> sanozuke: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[14:27] <nickthorley> gord_: ok no prob - will just have to install and then if cant get it working revert back to 7.10
[14:27] <N1NCHN41L5> was only partly caps so they know its not M$ dual boot - text moves so fast
[14:27] <slytherin> Heroin: it is implementation of public-key cryptography
[14:27] <IndyGunFreak> evand: you really think so?.. i seriously doubt it would
[14:27] <jojomas> well.. lets all do a fresh install of 7.10, and then upgrade to 8.04... this is feeling like windows man
[14:27] <bhsx> slytherin: that's interesting.. i hadn't realized that.... i'm actually uninstalling and installing sun-java6-plugin to see if i can tell a difference on any applets
[14:27] <mattycoze> How do i check whether i've manually installed an old version of bluez-utils correctly?
[14:27] <JPSmon> evand, would i dual boot my linux?
[14:27] <fysa> is there a Wubi channel?
[14:27] <bazhang> jojomas: far from it
[14:27] <pallavi> Hi
[14:27] <jojomas> jaja, just kidding
[14:27] <fysa> I boot into initramfs every time.
[14:27] <slytherin> pallavi: you may want to join #ubuntu-in. You have high chance of getting answers there
[14:28] <ifireball> mattycoze: try using it?
[14:28] <evand> JPSmon: IndyGunFreak I've seen it with my own eyes.  The lead developer works in Ubuntu, it's kind of a necessity.  But it's only useful for testing that it created the right things and put them in the right place.
[14:28] <pallavi> ya Thanks for assistance
[14:28] <sanozuke> you guys
[14:28] <gord_>  nickthorley : yep but not too hard to install then configure stuff once it's on your disk, but near-impossibkle to remaster a live-cd that way for specific card u see
[14:28] <dassouki> when i do an lsb_release -a i get 8.04 hardy !
[14:28] <nickthorley> bazhang: what did you have to do to get it going - I think we need to get out of having to "fix" it - if it auto worked before then why not in a later version - I love linux and want to get more people into it but if the way to get your card working is to play with kernel modules then i cant help but thinking we are going backwards not forwards
[14:28] <sanozuke> are a lot of time online
[14:28] <evand> fysa: no, just a forum and website.
[14:28] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I'm not sure how installing the drivers manually is going to help though...no matter what when you install a new kernel you need to create the modules for it...Envy does it for you while the "Ubuntu" way (which isn't cause Ubuntu Way means no proprietary software) you have to do it by hand....
[14:28] <halll0> can anyone help with a permissions problem I'm having?
[14:28] <N1NCHN41L5> yes /j #wubi - only 1 person in it now
[14:28] <IndyGunFreak> evand: well, i'd have to see that to believe it
[14:28] <ibleed> how do i encrypt a partition that requires me to give a password when i want to access it (not on boot but manually) ?
[14:28] <bazhang> nickthorley: this is hardy right?
[14:28] <loder> IndyGunFreak it might even work though - that very last version of Wine is startlingly good - it even runs Dreamweaver with bit of tweaking now - that amazed me!
[14:28] <nickthorley> gord_: no prob - thanks for your help - will install it tonight
[14:28] <nickthorley> bazhang: yes hardy
[14:29] <sanozuke> how to i use tab to search for program
[14:29] <JPSmon> evand: So there wouldnt be a dual boot then?
[14:29] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I honestly think EnvyNG will fix your upgrade issue though...the app is more closely integrated for Hardy then it was in the past...he worked with Ubuntu devs to make a lot happen...
[14:29] <evand> IndyGunFreak: bzr branch lp:wubi wubi; cd wubi; make prerequisites; make; make test
[14:29] <evand> JPSmon: I'm not sure I understand your question.  Can you elaborate on what you want to accomplish?
[14:29] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, what i mean by ubuntu way is trough the restricted hardware gui which install the nvidia module package wich would be updated if the kernel is updated
[14:29] <neeto> How do I set the color depth in 8.04?
[14:29] <bazhang> nickthorley: they moved from the ipw3945 to the iwl3945 and the transition has been a bit rocky; but the new kernel level module means no restricted driver and much better performance
[14:30] <nullmind> neeto: you still have to use xorg.conf :-/
[14:30] <loder> Is there a search in this chan where i can look up things I don't know like what EnvyNG is?
[14:30] <slytherin> sanozuke: what do you mean?
[14:30] <ifireball> sanozuke: you start typing its name in the command line and then press tab, it should then either complete the name or give you completion options
[14:30] <Adlai> !envy | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> loder: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[14:30] <JPSmon> evand: eh not really.  its just a joke.    I feel like I would be dividing by zero somwhere
[14:30] <arstanj> dinesh: Hey
[14:30] <gord_>  nickthorley : historical note - the live-CD is a full "release" next full updates to live-cd's will be next major release, 8.10 u see, but a system installed on your hdd can be update daily/hourly, on demand u see
[14:30] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys is there any way to install the Ubuntu plugin back in to firefox 3.
[14:30] <nickthorley> bazhang: dont suppose you have any instructions on what you had to do to get it working do you?
[14:30] <Adlai> !envyng | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envyng - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:30] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yeah I've never had any luck with that... :)
[14:30] <sanozuke> ok
[14:30] <gangsterlicious> whys ubuntu.com internet so slow
[14:30] <Adlai> hmm, alright
[14:30] <bazhang> !info envyng-gtk | loder
[14:30] <ubotu> loder: envyng-gtk (source: envyng-gtk): install the ATI or the NVIDIA driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.1ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 93 kB, installed size 324 kB
[14:30] <slytherin> loder: simply type !searchterm
[14:30] <loder> cheers
[14:30] <jhoc2x> how to upgrade from gutsy to hardy?
[14:30] <evand> JPSmon: ah, indeed.
[14:30] <sanozuke> i don't use irc a lot
[14:31] <nullmind> How can I receive notifications whenever a command is executed?
[14:31] <indian_munnda> can any one tell me any software package to change my MAC id????
[14:31] <bhsx> gangsterlicious: because it's getting POUNDED?
[14:31] <sanozuke> but is channel is the best
[14:31] <slytherin> jhoc2x: check channel topic
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: so is envy considered safe now, for Hardy?
[14:31] <gangsterlicious> hmmm, ok
[14:31] <arthur> @ jhoc2x sudo apt-get update   and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:31] <loder> Oh I do remember, people with Nvidia drivers especially use it  yeah?
[14:31] <Adlai> nullmind: what sort of notifications?
[14:31] <bhsx> look at it this way... there are 1500 ppl IN HERE
[14:31] <nickthorley> gord_: yes i fully understand - is it possible that after installing and patching the card may be auto detected and work - the updates fixing it or is this highly unlikely?
[14:31] <shane2peru> does anyone know if a bug was filed for gnome-desktop install on the server edition?
[14:31] <bazhang> loder you can /msg ubotu info packagename or /msg ubotu keyword for lots of stuff
[14:31] <jhoc2x> arthur: thanks bro!
[14:31] <JPSmon> and then ran a wubi in the wubi's wine?
[14:31] <spiniker> hello room
[14:31] <vbabiy-laptop> hey guys is there any way to install the Ubuntu plugin back in to firefox 3.
[14:31] <bhsx> think of what the server, trying to dish-out 650MB isos AND updates is goign through?
[14:31] <nullmind> Adlai: basically like how libnotify notifies you a file has moved, etc., i need to know when something is executed
[14:31] <bazhang> IndyGunFreak: it is blessed ;] for hardy only though
[14:31] <shane2peru> Does anyone have a workaround for getting the gnome desktop installed on server edition?
[14:32] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, i know it's possible to install the card without envy because a guy(wich is away) succeeded to install it with the gui in ubuntu
[14:32] <IndyGunFreak> bazhang: very interesting
[14:32] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: which plugin?
[14:32] <gord_> <indian_munnda: macchanger, or mac-changer  from my memory, some card will take it as ifconfig option too
[14:32] <spiniker> i just updated to the new hardy,but i cant seem to get my emerald themes to run
[14:32] <loder> bazhang thanks - in some ways my installs worked so well I didn't learn so much
[14:32] <nullmind> shane2peru: install ubuntu-desktop package?
[14:32] <MTecknology> If anybody still wants a copy, I have i386-desktop at ftp://arnescnp.com user: ftp pass: <anything>  I'm uploading amd64-desktop to the server now.... limit - 7 connections
[14:32] <Adlai> nullmind: you can replace the binary with a trojan that sends you some mail and then executes the program
[14:32] <loder> There's an irony there somewhere :)
[14:32] <lilg111111> anybody know how to get youtube to work in hardy
[14:32] <evand> IndyGunFreak: aiui, yes.  Or at least moreso than it was.
[14:32] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: the one that comes installed by default with firefox 3.
[14:32] <slytherin> shane2peru: you haven't stated the problem you faced, yet
[14:32] <Adlai> then drop that somewhere in your path
[14:32] <shane2peru> nullmind, I will give that a try
[14:32] <Adlai> before the real binary
[14:32] <ifireball> shane2peru: installing the ubuntu-desktop package doesn't work for you?
[14:32] <evand> ah, sorry, didn't notice that bazhang replied already.
[14:32] <sanozuke> Iam trying to use perl and things are going better
[14:32] <shane2peru> slytherin, yes, gnome-desktop-environment is brokedn
[14:32] <bazhang> nickthorley: I cant remember offhand but will help you go through it if you wish sometime--there are a couple of bugs that stop some people from using it atm that will be fixed in short order
[14:32] <shane2peru> ifireball, going to try that now
[14:32] <sanozuke> in xubuntu
[14:33] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: you need package ubufox
[14:33] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: it lets you choose to install flash or gnash, also helps install java
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: Yeah, i know, but I need a dynamic way to do this. Can I somehow filter bash?
[14:33] <bhsx> lilg111111: 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'
[14:33] <iluminatus> where is a german help channel for ubuntu ?
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: I guess I could replace bash and do my filtering there...
[14:33] <Adlai> nullmind: I'm not aware of how, if it's possible
[14:33] <nullmind> Adlai: this is because of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=763283
[14:33] <loder> one more question - this inclusion of FF3 beta 5?
[14:33] <indian_munnda> gord_: i used it but its not working correct.When i changed my MAC id the internet stopped working and when i rebooted my PC, MAC was again changd to the older one.
[14:33] <slytherin> shane2peru: do you just want gnome-desktop?
[14:34] <nullmind> loder: Final Fantasy 3 wasn't released in United States
[14:34] <nickthorley> bazhang: what do you mean by term short order - they will be last to be fixed? - I will be trying to install tonight - approx 8 hours from now if you are around?
[14:34] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind -   ahh, sometimes the simple solutions escape me!  I tried gnome, gnome-desktop, gnome-desktop-environment
[14:34] <loder> Will aptitude upgrade it to the release as and when it's avaibable
[14:34] <ifireball> shane2peru: but really if you're gonna do that, install desktop ubuntu and be done with, you're not getting anything from using the server that way
[14:34] <grnmtn> does anyone know where to find documentation for hardy server?
[14:34] <GNUtoo> v0lksman-away, http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#F => i will use envy
[14:34] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: i have that package but how do I get it in to firefox
[14:34] <nullmind> shane2peru: you can also install kubuntu-desktop for the KDE dekstop
[14:34] <elektronik123> hello
[14:34] <slytherin> loder: yes
[14:34] <loder> nullmind I meant Firefox - I can't work out whether your joking there
[14:34] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can always use $man
[14:34] <gord_>   nickthorley : possible, more likely u need to google for, for example, {card name) ubuntu hardy and do somethin manually
[14:34] <lilg111111> bhsx, i have it already
[14:34] <nullmind> loder: im always joking :)
[14:35] <elektronik123> can i backup Pidgin`s conversation logs ?
[14:35] <bhsx> restart FF and go to youtube
[14:35] <bazhang> nickthorley: I will do my best to be around; will try to remember what exactly I did--not much really though ( acoup;e of tweaks iirc)
[14:35] <alteregoa> i need a strange help
[14:35] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind thanks guys, I'm a gnomer, and yes I like having my server too, computer handles both just fine, I like the server install, server hobby, desktop for work. :)
[14:35] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: I don't understand what you mean by 'get into firefox'
[14:35] <grnmtn> nullmind: I'm looking for install guides . . . so I'm not to the man stage yet
[14:35] <bazhang> alteregoa: go ahead and ask
[14:35] <albech> where can i find the md5sums on the ubuntu website?
[14:35] <bhsx> lilg111111: and it doesn't work?
[14:35] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: well I have it installed but firefox doesn't show it installed.
[14:35] <neeto> 24 bit color depth is not including the 8 bit alpha channel, right?
[14:35] <alteregoa> i connected two screens to the ubuntumachine
[14:35] <iluminatus> who i must configured xchat for using a bnc ??? problem ident ... i need help in german ^^
[14:35] <slytherin> elektronik123: manual backup? yes. Open terminal and check directory ~/.purple/logs
[14:35] <nullmind> grnmtn: Ubuntu has a good Wiki
[14:35] <alteregoa> but it doesn't work as it should
[14:35] <bazhang> !md5 | albech
[14:35] <ubotu> albech: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[14:35] <loder> nullmind I take it Final Fanatasy is agame? the software I'venever heard of is always game related :(
[14:35] <lilg111111> bhsx, nope just a black screen shows up with the replay button but no video plays
[14:35] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can also browse the packages online and download their docs
[14:35] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes mac-changer usuall opnly last during one boot, changin g mac confuses everything, so u mets ask for new IP by recycling the network, eg: disable it and reeneble it should work for dhcp
[14:36] <shane2peru> ifireball, nullmind I have xubuntu installed now, and it is ok, but I just like gnome too much, too used to gnome.  Thanks
[14:36] <bhsx> lilg111111: you restarted FF?
[14:36] <bazhang> alteregoa: you need to use my nick if you want an answer thanks
[14:36] <gord_> so u must#
[14:36] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: where did you check it?
[14:36] <alteregoa> it has only 640x480 resol. i cannot change the resolution to 1024x768 on the second screen
[14:36] <lilg111111> bhsx, yes
[14:36] <afallenhope> Does Ubuntu work well with SATA hard drives?
[14:36] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: the addons.
[14:36] <bazhang> afallenhope: sure
[14:36] <b33r> what's the md5sum of hardy amd64 desktop?
[14:36] <shane2peru> slytherin, I forgot the package name that is why I was trying the gnome-desktop etc.
[14:36] <alteregoa> yes with sado drives, it wors
[14:36] <nullmind> b33r: it's on the ubuntu release package
[14:36] <shane2peru> slytherin, thanks though.
[14:36] <bhsx> lilg111111: this SHOULDn't have anything to do with it... but try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[14:36] <arthur> @ afallenhope ... yeah SATA should be no problem
[14:36] <nickthorley> bazhang: thanks for your help
[14:37] <grnmtn> nullimind: I'm trying to set up separate partitions, so I guess 8.04 docs aren't necessary (I doubt that has changed) - but I can't find any decent documentaiton on manually partitioning ubuntu server
[14:37] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: Are you checking 'plugins' or 'extensions'?
[14:37] <loder> afallenhope I don't know what constitutes well but it certainly works on mine
[14:37] <gord_> indian_munnda: so use macchanger, then  go to network icon on top toolbar then disbale then reenable it
[14:37] <bazhang> not yet nickthorley ;]
[14:37] <indian_munnda> gord_: but i m running a DNS server with a public IP thats why i m looking for MAC changer.
[14:37] <nickthorley> gord_: you too - hope to be chatting later via wireless
[14:37] <joshua__> hey guys
[14:37] <bhsx> ok, enjoy everyone, this is too busy for me to be much help
[14:37] <nullmind> grnmtn: are you going to use the Live CD to install, it has GParted a GNOME-based partition editor that is very sexy
[14:37] <vbabiy-laptop> slytherin: both
[14:37] <joshua__> im a i have a quick question
[14:37] <joshua__> im a newb
[14:37] <joshua__> and i have hardy
[14:37] <nullmind> never ask to ask or talk about asking
[14:37] <lilg111111> bhsx, already have that to, should i uninstall em and reinstall them
[14:37] <RWB> could someone give me a link to the release info on Hardy?
[14:37] <bazhang> go ahead joshua__ easy on the enter key though
[14:37] <alteregoa> a mac changer, so you had a power pc mac, and now you try to change to intel?
[14:37] <immesys> joshua__: just ask
[14:38] <greentomate> when will archive.ubuntu be back up??? I can/t get any packages as of now and it is quite frustrating.
[14:38] <[T]-Rex> lol
[14:38] <joshua__> I am running dual boot with vista 64 and when i installed hardy i could read my ntfs data
[14:38] <jhoc2x> how are thing between hardy and gutsy??? i'd like to know before upgrading to hardy
[14:38] <loder> It is busy actually - the busiest I've ever seen any IRC channel in my life!
[14:38] <ere4si> joshua__: just ask your qustion - it gets busy here
[14:38] <nullmind> greentomate: go to Admin->Software sources and choose a local mirror
[14:38] <alteregoa> i have no glue with xorg.conf
[14:38] <bazhang> rwb www.fsckin.com has the best one (in Plain English)
[14:38] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: have you restarted firefox? Any chance you are using firefox2 instead of firefox3.
[14:38] <immesys> joshua__: thats a feature
[14:38] <nullmind> greentomate: im in Portland, OR and choose cat.pdx down the street :)
[14:38] <afallenhope> what about an Asus vid card?
[14:38] <LainIwakura> I cannot find the artwiz package in the hardy repositories. How do I find which respoistory to add so that I can apt-get xfonts-artwiz2?
[14:38] <joshua__> now it says cannot mount
[14:38] <RWB> thnx
[14:38] <slytherin> greentomate: use local mirror please
[14:38] <greentomate> nullmind: i'll give that a shot, thanks.
[14:38] <greentomate> yes yes ill try
[14:39] <grnmtn> nullmind: ubuntu server livecd doesn't appear to include gparted
[14:39] <vbabiy-laptop> no slytherin its firefox 3
[14:39] <bazhang> afallenhope: what chipset
[14:39] <immesys> joshua__: its probably because the ntfs journal is dirty. reboot into windows and shut down nicely
[14:39] <gord_> indian_munnda: aha, so ion that case u need to recycle the fixed IP, anyone help with a foolproff method in hardy? no box here on 8.04 to talk him thru.. :(
[14:39] <joshua__> I downloaded and installed a ntfs3g thing and i guess that i didnt need it for hardy, but since installing that i have no access
[14:39] <slytherin> vbabiy-laptop: perhaps a firefox restart is needed
[14:39] <arthur> @ slytherin: What else is to do for Firefox Java then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" ?
[14:39] <grnmtn> i'm sort of shocked that they would release 8.04 without update documentation at the same time
[14:39] <q4a> hi to all, I want to install ubuntu on laptop Samsung Q45 F000. I tried to do it with 7.10 and 8.04 - but i can't: it fades at attempt to start from a disk without installation. Whether it is possible to try to start ubuntu from USB flash drive and how? Or some one can already have the same problem?
[14:39] <nullmind> grnmtn: yes, the Ubuntu Desktop does include GParted
[14:39] <joshua__> i tried removing it in synaptic, however it didnt work
[14:39] <afallenhope> 965wh
[14:39] <vbabiy-laptop> sorry slytherin I didn't notice I had firefox open on a different desktop
[14:39] <indian_munnda> gord_: i m running gutsy
[14:40] <vbabiy-laptop> so it was not restarting
[14:40] <greentomate> another question: how do i make it so i dont have to type root password all the time. Isn't there a way to have it autofilled? i mean, i understand why it wants to prompt you, but why should i have to actually type a pw in as supposed to hitting "OK Proceed"
[14:40] <joshua__> removing it worked
[14:40] <nullmind> grnmtn: you can always use the parted application for command-line partitioning
[14:40] <pawan> hi
[14:40] <joshua__> but ntfs didnt
[14:40] <bazhang> grnmtn: they did you just need to look for it: www.distrowatch.com has the official one
[14:40] <slytherin> arthur: you also need sun-java6-plugin :-D
[14:40] <gord_> indian_munnda: u see the moment u change the MAC all your network switches get confused, they try to talk to the OLD mac, in their arp-caches i think
[14:40] <pawan> how to download videos from youtube
[14:40] <dwhsix> Hardy upgrade Q: I torrented the alternate CD, burned it, but when did the upgrade it seems to be downloading everything from the new and not using the CD...
[14:40] <joshua__> so i reinstalled it and it still doesnt work
[14:40] <arthur> @ slytherin : oh ^^
[14:40] <immesys> joshua__: have you tried manually mounting the drive?
[14:40] <frostburn> anyone having issues compiling vmware server on 64bit 8.04?
[14:40] <nullmind> joshua__: do you know how to open a terminal?
[14:40] <joshua__> not sure how
[14:40] <bhsx> ok i will say this for anyone having troubles with FROSTWIRE or LIMEWIRE....   over the course of the beta, and including the final release...  install the FrostWire .deb.  then 'gksudo gedit /usr/bin/FrostWire' and make the file '#!/bin/bash  -  cd /usr/lib/frostwire - java -jar FrostWire.jar' then 'sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/FrostWire' then just type (or create a shortcut) for 'FrostWire' and it will run just fine...
[14:40] <gord_> indian_munnda: k, gutsy then anyone?
[14:40] <bazhang> !info youtube-dl | pawan
[14:40] <ubotu> pawan: youtube-dl (source: youtube-dl): download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2008.01.24-1 (hardy), package size 7 kB, installed size 64 kB
[14:40] <joshua__> terminal yes
[14:40] <joshua__> brb i have to help my daughter
[14:40] <dwhsix> (this /may/ be because I started an upgrade and said 'yes, do the updates now', but then cancelled that and started over...)
[14:40] <afallenhope>
[14:40] <moDumass> booya. the solution to cracly sound is to turn the application your usings volume down to 70% but turn up your master, it removes the crackling static scratchy clicks
[14:40] <moDumass> awesometastic
[14:40] <loder> q4a that's the odd thing there are some systems - I have one - that won't do livecds - but will install from install cds fine
[14:40] <pawan> i am using gutsy
[14:41] <arthur> @ slytherin there is no sun-java6-plugin
[14:41] <grnmtn> bazhang: if you look at https://help.ubuntu.com/, it is all 7.10 or older
[14:41] <loder> someone told me it can be because the system ram isn't fast enough
[14:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl pawan then in the terminal youtube-dl (the url of the vid you want here)
[14:41] <bhsx> arthur yes, there is
[14:41] <joshua__> ok im back
[14:41] <bazhang> grnmtn: it is one day since the release and we are all volunteers please be patient that is a huge amount to update
[14:41] <nullmind> greentomate: you want to change the sudo timeout
[14:41] <immesys> joshua__: ok do you know the /dev/ name of your drive?
[14:41] <gord_> indian_munnda: basically, i think u just do this, run macchanger, go up to network-manager icon on top toolbar, disable networking, then do it again to enable networking
[14:42] <bhsx> arthur: it's called 'sun-java6-plugin' i'm looking at it right now in Synaptic
[14:42] <joshua__> i get 73.1 gb media
[14:42] <indian_munnda> gord_: ok i m doing it now
[14:42] <joshua__> that is the name in properties
[14:42] <nullmind> greentomate: try this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179048
[14:42] <gord_> indian_munnda:all my boxes down right now u see i'm using <eek> windoze
[14:42] <arthur> @ bhsx do I have to use "software from 3rd part"
[14:42] <bazhang> loder more likely a video or acpi issue; you might try with the acpi=off boot parameter
[14:42] <bhsx> arthur: it installs sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin
[14:42] <LainIwakura> I could install a package with the Gutsy repositories. How do I install that package in Hardy?
[14:42] <immesys> joshua__: join #tmp32
[14:42] <Fritzel> where should I go to look for new themes and backgrounds?
[14:42] <grnmtn> bazhang: I understand the nature of community work, but for a distro that is trying succeed on a commerical level, it is unprofessional - they shouldn't have released the distro until the docs were ready
[14:42] <elektronik123> 8.04 isn`t good translate into polish
[14:42] <bhsx> you should have universe and multiverse checked by default
[14:43] <methods> can i upgrade to the new version from my desktop ?
[14:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  I was thinking of checking the FAQ for the answer... :)
[14:43] <arthur> @ bshx I both got them installed
[14:43] <loder> bazhang actually that sounds right - at least on that system I always have to force acpi on and off in the modules
[14:43] <grnmtn> bazhang: anyway, I'm not trying to bash ubuntu, I love it, but I was a little suprised. And I greatly appreciate all the work that goes in to it
[14:43] <carl> anyone having any issues updating, in the update manager it gives me a button to update to 8.04 but when i click it i get the loading icon nothing happens??
[14:43] <q4a> loder, thx, i'll try
[14:43] <bazhang> grnmtn: you can file a bug or add the idea to brainstorm.ubuntu.com or help out yourself
[14:43] <loder> Yeah that must be it at least on mine
[14:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, ok and thanks a lot!!!
[14:43] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  make sure you use EnvyNG in hardy though....from the repos.. :)
[14:43] <nullmind> joshua__: join #tmp32 and we'll help you
[14:43] <bhsx> then just do 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin'
[14:43] <bhsx> and you'll be good to go
[14:43] <nullmind> joshua__: it's very busy here
[14:43] <dagon_> carl; it took a little while for my update-manager to get started, just sit tight
[14:43] <Itaku> i found a bug on ubuntu 8.04
[14:43] <GNUtoo> v0lksman, envyng-gtk
[14:43] <joshua__> how do i do that
[14:43] <joshua__> i see that
[14:44] <bhsx> Itaku: this sin't where to report it
[14:44] <elektronik123> some texts isn`t translate into polish in 8.04
[14:44] <carl> ok i rebooted it ill go try again
[14:44] <bazhang> loder also try removiing the quiet so you can see the exact problem with the error messages
[14:44] <Itaku> where do i report it?
[14:44] <bhsx> do a bug report
[14:44] <immesys> joshua__: type /join #tmp32
[14:44] <carl> it was using zilch cpu and zilch network tho
[14:44] <bhsx> ubuntu.com
[14:44] <psych> whats the best choice instead totem ??
[14:44] <v0lksman> GNUtoo:  yep...and envyng-core if it isn't picked up as a dep
[14:44] <bazhang> !bug | itaku
[14:44] <ubotu> itaku: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:44] <nullmind> carl: the update servers are kinda slammed, try changing your repos to a different mirror
[14:44] <Scunizi> Itaku, launchpad
[14:44] <carl> yeh im using my isp
[14:44] <bullium> i ran the last hardy beta before rc and there was orange border on the left side of the gnome menus, it isn't there in the final release. how can i add that little border
[14:44] <bhsx> psych: vlc
[14:44] <carl> i downlaoding the alternate iso i might try updating that way
[14:44] <free> tes
[14:45] <gord_> indian_munnda: to get the enable/disable Right_Clic the network manager icon on toolbar
[14:45] <loder> bazhang I did solve it on mine - I used amp off or something I forget the exact line
[14:45] <LainIwakura> Is it okay to add Gutsy repositories in apt/sources.list? I'm using Hardy. Thanks.
[14:45] <psych> bhsx, ty i know this one..i dunno why totem work so badly
[14:45] <nullmind> psych: vlc
[14:45] <eimajentha1> Hello, I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 server, and I just created a RAID) filesystem with mdadm called /dev/md0.  I'm generally pretty happy with, but I'm wondering if I need to make a startup script to assemble it everytime the machine boots, or if it will be persistent.
[14:45] <v0lksman> LainIwakura: why would you want to?
[14:45] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: no it is not
[14:45] <loder> I'm one these that only learns to get were he's going
[14:45] <bazhang> !slow | carl
[14:45] <ubotu> carl: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[14:45] <LainIwakura> v0lksman: I can't find a package I could install when I was in Gutsy.
[14:45] <bazhang> loder aye; that is tough part about linux ;]
[14:45] <jamiej__>  I am trying to install ltsp-server-standalone on hardy and get this Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Using '/usr/share/ldm/themes/edubuntu' to provide 'ldm-theme'.
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Reading package lists... Done
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Building dependency tree
[14:45] <jamiej__>  Reading state information... Done
[14:45] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: How do I find a package I could install with Gutsy's repositories then? Thanks.
[14:45] <FloodBot2> jamiej__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:45] <jamiej__>  E: Couldn't find package xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[14:45] <nullmind> GUYS: Changing mirrors really helps with slow APT speeds
[14:46] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: which package?
[14:46] <bazhang> !paste | jamiej__
[14:46] <ubotu> jamiej__: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: xfonts-artwiz2
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Do I need to uncomment some lines in sources.list?
[14:46]  * elektronik123 i go prepare to install 8.04 i beafraid
[14:46] <loder> bazhang but the other thing I found after is that the alternate CDs with the Debian Iinstaller always just work
[14:46] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: was it in the official gutsy repos?
[14:46] <bazhang> LainIwakura: apt-cache search relatedwordhere
[14:46] <Fritzel> where should I go to look for new themes and backgrounds?
[14:46] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Tried that, couldn't find it.
[14:46] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: I'm not sure, but I could install it with aptitude.
[14:46] <bazhang> loder which is why so many people use it ;]
[14:46] <loder> But Iknow people trying for the first time don't want to be told to go for broke so I never say that
[14:47] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: there is xfonts-artwiz
[14:47] <ere4si> Fritzel: I go to gnome-look.org
[14:47] <bazhang> LainIwakura: you may need to enable more repos; please pastebin your sources.list
[14:47] <Fritzel> ere4si, alright thanky ou
[14:47] <ere4si> k
[14:47] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: hm yeah my sources.list may be incorrect
[14:47] <Jessid> hello. I installed ubuntu 8.04 and i want to change the name to the partitions shown in the desktop, I thought that using the properties dialog was going to be able, but it doesnt work...
[14:47] <arthur> How can I use sun-java6 with Firefox @ ubuntu amd64?
[14:47] <hardff> why is gstreamer busted?
[14:47] <bazhang> LainIwakura: what is the exact name of the package?
[14:47] <Cusoon959> I've blacklisted b43 and ssb in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist. b43 does not load any more, but ssb still does. How can I get ssb to stop loading?
[14:48] <dystopianray> arthur: install sun-java6-plugin
[14:48] <LainIwakura> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64366/
[14:48] <bazhang> hardff its not
[14:48] <loder> bazhang actually Debian installer is an amazing system - I've never seen it fail to install on anything
[14:48] <arthur> @ dystopianray I haven't got it
[14:48] <dystopianray> Cusoon959: why do you want to stop ssb from loading?
[14:48] <hardff> k
[14:48] <nappula> anyone using rtl8185 in 8.04? 'cause mine is broken
[14:48] <LainIwakura> bazhang: xfonts-artwiz2 (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-artwiz-fonts-in-ubuntu.html)
[14:48] <dystopianray> arthur: are you running gutsy?
[14:48] <daedra> is there a way to throttle your connection to simulate 56k?
[14:48] <daedra> i'm doing an assignment on usability on the web, and how websites have grown from text based to streaming media etc
[14:48] <Cusoon959> dystopianray, because b43 doesn't seem to work with my card. I want to run ndiswrapper...
[14:48] <loder> And for reasons I won't bore you with a lot of old comps come through my hands :)
[14:48] <Cusoon959> actually
[14:48] <hardff> its just causing errors in 80% of multimedia apps on hardy
[14:48] <Cusoon959> dystopianray
[14:48] <arthur> @ dystopianray 8.04
[14:48] <Cusoon959> I'll BRB, maybe b43 will work...
[14:49] <dystopianray> arthur: update your package list
[14:49] <dystopianray> Cusoon959: try it without disabling ssb, other drivers use ssb too
[14:49] <nappula> I can't get my wireless card down on 8.04.
[14:49] <pheriod> anyone got f-spot up and running? mine cant connect to dbus
[14:49] <bazhang> LainIwakura: tw hey? what about the canonical partner repos? could it be in there? packages.ubuntu.com could tell if you tell me the package name I can help you look
[14:49] <neeto> I know this is a silly question, but is there a way to make xfce use sound effects?
[14:49] <daedra> ok forget this...
[14:49] <nullmind> I have instructions for getting rid of b43 and using ndiswrapper on my blog here http://devangelist.blogspot.com/2008/03/ubuntu-804-beta-hardy.html
[14:49] <dublpaws> the repositories are slammed :(. is there one which is not serving upgrades?
[14:50] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz2
[14:50] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz2 does not exist in hardy
[14:50] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Thanks, the package name is: xfonts-artwiz2
[14:50] <Jessid> i cant remember the command to see the kernel version i have...
[14:50] <nullmind> Jessid: uname -r
[14:50] <bazhang> !find xfonts
[14:50] <ubotu> Found: ttf-arphic-bkai00mp, ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp, ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp, ttf-arphic-gkai00mp, xfonts-100dpi (and 77 others)
[14:50] <indian_munnda_> gord: i did that but didn't worked
[14:50] <indian_munnda_> gord_: i did that but didn't worked
[14:50] <loder> neeto I know this was asked in the xfce channels and the answer appears to be yes - though I've never wanted to do it
[14:50] <Jessid> nullmind: thanks a lot
[14:50] <nullmind> dublpaws: use a local mirror in Admin->software sources
[14:50] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz2 gutsy
[14:50] <loder> I usually race to turn them off
[14:50] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz2 does not exist in gutsy
[14:50] <nullmind> Why are my fonts in Firefox very tall?
[14:50] <dublpaws> ok nullmind
[14:51] <Fritzel> with the lag on the repos today I'm extremely glad I stayed up to date all week
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: I searched and I could not find it in the Hardy repositories. It does show up in the Gutsy repositories though.
[14:51] <nullmind> Fritzel: me too
[14:51] <cpu> hI , I have ubuntu 7.10 .. so I strated to upgrade it to 8.04 ... so in the upgrade process I got some errors.. and the update maneger poupd-up with a message to contenue or somehow from there becase the errors so Im trying to fix that... and started upgrading another time so whats the problem.. cuz its not working well
[14:51] <indian_munnda_> gord_: are you there??????
[14:51] <bazhang> LainIwakura: does not seem to be in gutsy or hardy perhpas getdeb.net?
[14:51] <gord_> indian_munnda: hmm, ok then, err yes, right, err, OK does ifconfig -a show the changed (new) mac under "physical address" ?
[14:51] <v0lksman> dublpaws: open Synaptic -> Settings -> Repositories -> Download from "Other" and select best...then reload your list...
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: It shows up in Gutsy as the package name "xfonts-artwiz"
[14:51] <dudus> hey does anyone have the ubuntu Ogio metro backpack? I think I'll get one. Can you tell me if it's really 100 bucks worth
[14:51] <bazhang> cpu we need the exact errors thanks
[14:51] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Is there a way to install that Gutsy package in Hardy?
[14:52] <bazhang> !info xfonts-artwiz
[14:52] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: that package was not in gutsy either
[14:52] <ubotu> Package xfonts-artwiz does not exist in hardy
[14:52] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=artwiz&searchon=all&suite=gutsy&section=all
[14:52] <spiniker> anybody has issues with emerald on hardy?
[14:52] <Ultraputz> i upgraded from gutsy to hardy, on a machine with whole-disc encryption (LKM) and now the thing no longer recognizes the password to unlock the drive to boot.
[14:52] <nullmind> Lain: backports
[14:52] <Ultraputz> er LUKS
[14:52] <cpu> bazhang... the error occurd in the downloading packages process..
[14:52] <loder> LainIwakura don't you just add the lin in apt?
[14:52] <LainIwakura> loder: Which line?
[14:52] <LainIwakura> Let me try enabling backports.
[14:52] <Sajuukkhar> guys i really need help
[14:52] <bazhang> cpu could you try again from the terminal and report the exact errors please? thanks
[14:52] <spiniker> i cant seem to get it to to run..
[14:52] <^^malajenho^> hi everyone, I've installed hardy heron by first time. How can I configure my wireless device BROADCOM4318 to work fine ??
[14:52] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: oh sorry i thought you mentioned xfonts-artwiz2 earlier
[14:53] <bazhang> Sajuukkhar: ask away
[14:53] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Yeah sorry typo
[14:53] <hardff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bug/218750/  what do you do about it??
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> i tried doing the automatic guided install for partition
[14:53] <gord_> indian_munnda: I assume you have to spoof the MAC to work with a particular ISP yeah?
[14:53] <jburd> ^^malajenho^: Terrible card.
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> and it couldnt work
[14:53] <loder> LainIwakura it will be the repository for gutsy preceded by deb
[14:53]  * jburd doesn't like anything broadcom.
[14:53] <ayilma1> did hardy fix the suspend problem?
[14:53] <loder> just like alkl the other urls
[14:53] <LainIwakura> loder: How do I find the exact url for that?
[14:53] <loder> it's awhile since i did it
[14:53] <dystopianray> ayilma1: which suspend problem?
[14:53] <neeto> Is anyone else using one of the new mac keyboards?
[14:53] <Theo_> Why wont grub boot my windows or ubuntu? It says selected disk does not exist.
[14:53] <Sajuukkhar> it just says cant partition it and takes me back to the partition table
[14:53] <jburd> ^^malajenho^: Use the Windows wireless drivers if you can't get the Linux builtins working
[14:53] <ayilma1> suspend in laptops..
[14:53] <kennethr> How do I know that I've got the latest Hardy installed?  I jumped on at a beta and I just want to verify that I've got the released bits installed.
[14:53] <LainIwakura> not in backports
[14:53] <loder> LainIwakura hang on I have to look everything up
[14:54] <Jessid> what does it mean OSE at the end of the name of VirtualBox????
[14:54] <LainIwakura> loder: Thanks.
[14:54] <bazhang> Theo_: which was intalled frist windows or ubuntu
[14:54] <dystopianray> ayilma1: you'll have to be much more specific
[14:54] <loder> it might be LainIwakura
[14:54] <dystopianray> Jessid: open source edition
[14:54] <Sajuukkhar> i been trying to fix my laptop a day and a half
[14:54] <neeto> Is anyone else using one of the new mac keyboards?
[14:54] <nullmind> ayilma1: what doesnt work w/ suspend?
[14:54] <bazhang> jessid open source edition iirc
[14:54] <dystopianray> Jessid: it lacks usb, rdp and iscsi support but is otherwise identical
[14:54] <Jessid> dystopianray: thanks a lot!!!
[14:54] <Theo_> windows and ubunto over 7.10 which was on a different hd in the computer
[14:54] <v0lksman> kennethr:  either run update manager or sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:54] <bullium> did anyone else see the new border that was on the menus during the beta versions of hard/
[14:54] <ayilma1> suspend was not working for many models in gutsy
[14:54] <Itaku> i have to apt-get something but i cant because it cant connect. is there another way?
[14:54] <gord_> kennethr: update with update-manager if no uodates found u are current, servers busy though
[14:54] <Jessid> bazhang: thanks a lot
[14:54] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Is it okay if I add the gutsy universe repository line in my sources.list in order to install that xfonts-artwiz package?
[14:54] <bazhang> itaku what is the error
[14:54] <cpu> bazhang.. k ty for co-oprate.. so I will find is that from my distro or the ubuntu works... so I wanted to ask is it a critical error or what !! .. I cant make restart
[14:55] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: i wouldn't think so, no
[14:55] <bricas> Hello all. I'm trying to remove my dependencies on kde app -- anyone ever done any switch from (1) Digikam to F-Spot and (2) Amarok to Rhythmbox? I don't want to lose my tags/ratings.
[14:55] <ere4si> Itaku: why can't it connect?
[14:55] <libervisco> Does engmail work on evolution?
[14:55] <Jessid> dystopianray: does not support USB???mmm too bad. Some plans to support it???
[14:55] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: How do I get that package then? Thanks.
[14:55] <nullmind> Why doe Firefox 3.0 have tall fonts?
[14:55] <indian_munnda_> gord_: actually i m having two computers and when i try to use the network on the other one it does not work because ISP needs my registered MAC.
[14:55] <dystopianray> Jessid: if you want usb support get the non open source edition off the virtualbox website
[14:55] <bazhang> cpu sorry missed your first question; is what a critical error
[14:55] <ere4si> Itaku: does it time out?
[14:56] <dystopianray> LainIwakura: no idea, find out why it's not included in hardy
[14:56] <kennethr> v0lksman: gord_: There's no way to actually verify that all of the packages are "release" bits, though?
[14:56] <LainIwakura> Also, is it recommended to downgrade firefox? I can not use any of the plugins.
[14:56] <Sajuukkhar> ok i wipe the entire harddirve and let it run: this is what i get: ext3 file system creation in partition #1 os SCSI1 (0.0.0) (sda) failed.
[14:56] <LainIwakura> dystopianray: Alright.. thanks.
[14:56] <jhoc2x_> grabe.. 510ms man ang LAG
[14:56] <Jessid> dystopianray: i am reading it, but they dont have for ubuntu 8.04 yet
[14:56] <nullmind> Lainlwakura: Disable the "Version Check" in about:config
[14:56] <dystopianray> Jessid: do you need to use the usb support in virtualbox?
[14:56] <LainIwakura> nullmind: Great, thanks.
[14:56] <cpu> bazhang , I think I just can stay with my current situation with the distro ...
[14:56] <nullmind> Lainlwakura: Google Toolbar for example works fine once I did that
[14:56] <Sake> how come ca.archive.ubuntu.com times out when I try to apt-get install packages?
[14:57] <gord_> indian_munnda: yes ok, but u realise that two devices cannot exist at the same time using one single mac address, ie bothturnedon and plugged into network...in case u have that going on
[14:57] <cpu> bazhang .. and I cant do anything .. so I'm just tryin' to make another upgrade
[14:57] <dystopianray> !slow | Sake
[14:57] <ubotu> Sake: The Ubuntu repositories and ISO mirrors are currently under heavy load due to the release of the latest edition. Please consider using !torrents to download ISO images, and be patient with APT updates.
[14:57] <nullmind> Sake Use a local mirror in Admin->Software Sources
[14:57] <bazhang> cpu okay if you specify the problem we may find a solution but ath is up to you
[14:57] <Jessid> dystopianray: yes, I have to "burn" some microcontrollers using windows and i prefer to run it under linux
[14:57] <eltech> whys it so difficult to install something like gdesklets afer install?
[14:57] <Itaku> ere4si: yeah it times out
[14:57] <Sake> nullmind: I'm using ubuntu server, don't have a gui
[14:57] <Itaku> oh wait it finally installed
[14:57] <eltech> seem slike all the repos are not reachable or something
[14:57] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar: did partition-editor recognize all your partitions?
[14:57] <agari> how long does the apt upgrade take?
[14:57] <bazhang> eltech the servers are slow at the moment
[14:57] <indian_munnda_> gord_: yes i know that and i use only one device at a time.
[14:57] <dystopianray> Jessid: i'm not sure if there will ever be usb support in the open source edition
[14:57] <PMantis> cdimage.ubuntu.com is timing out for me, too...
[14:57] <Sajuukkhar> its wiped them all and done it itself
[14:57] <cpu> bazhang.. ahhh ok .. ty .. I will report about if it repeated.. ty at all
[14:57] <Sajuukkhar> i think thats what 'guided' means
[14:58] <eltech> ah ok i thought it was me
[14:58] <NibiruET> Anyone running Ubuntu in a VirtualBox?
[14:58] <ere4si> Itaku: the servers are under a heavy load atm - give it a day
[14:58] <PMantis> I only want an 8.04 jeos torrent link. Anyone have one?
[14:58] <jburd> indian_munnda_: Get a switch and set up a proxy on the machine already registered.
[14:58] <spiniker> my upgrade took about 7 hours
[14:58] <eltech> bazhang but if I dl the .deb file why is it still looking for repo?
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> lol
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> 7 hours
[14:58] <Joelito> Thanks dystopianray, that help me :)
[14:58] <gord_>  kennethr: not really, but u can be sure they are "current" ie, up to date/hour/minute
[14:58] <spiniker> yup
[14:58] <indian_munnda_> gord_; i did ifconfig -a and it gave me info of all devices
[14:58] <bazhang> eltech which deb file
[14:58] <Sajuukkhar> mine is taking me past the 36 hour mark
[14:58] <eltech> gdesklets
[14:58] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar: yes, but. sometimes you cant see all partitions if you havent shutdown windows correctly
[14:58] <PMantis> spiniker: Would've been quicker to download the alternate or DVD via torrent, and upgrade with local disc. :)
[14:58] <damo22> when i use 2.6.24 kernel it crashes
[14:58] <spiniker> really
[14:58] <cguillermo> but... thats not the case
[14:59] <Jessid> dystopianray: ok man. I hope they do...meanwhile, lets enjoy new Ubuntu, jejeje...Thanks a lot!   I'm running Ubuntu Server 8.04, and it's working fine, but that seems odd to me.
[14:59] <spiniker> men i guess i was lucky enough
[14:59] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok, so the physiocal address is the new one u specified on macchanger then?
[14:59] <bazhang> eltech likely because it has dependencies--best to waiut and get from the repos
[14:59] <eltech> k
[14:59] <dystopianray> Jessid: not in ubuntu, no
[14:59] <gord_> indian_munnda:...for the specific network card u are using, or eth0 if u only have one network card/nic
[14:59] <SeanTater> If there is this much lag at this market share, what will it be like when everyone uses ubuntu?
[15:00] <Sajuukkhar> can i make my own partitions
[15:00] <indian_munnda_> gord_: are talking about the hardware address?
[15:00] <cguillermo> Have you tried installing with the alternate cd?
[15:00] <loder> LainIwakura http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/17/adding-additional-repositories/ is about adding repositories generally and the Gutsy one i presume is main - I'm actually using Debian today I I can't actually read it off for you
[15:00] <Sake> how do I set local mirrors from the command line? I'm using ubuntu server..
[15:00] <spiniker> im now about to upgrade my laptop to 8.04..
[15:00] <bakom> hey
[15:00] <Sajuukkhar> wot alternate cd?
[15:00] <gord_> indian_munnda:yes thats it sorry
[15:00] <Jessid> dystopianray: mmm ok. Now that you say it, I am curious to know what distro do you use!
[15:00] <bazhang> SeanTater: interesting but not really suited to this channel thanks
[15:00] <amenado> eimajentha1-> can you paste your /etc/fstab for us to see?
[15:00] <loder> that was an excessive use of the word actually sorry about that :)
[15:00] <schnootop> Since installing hardy my gfx card doesnt get recognised and i get default screen resolution. What is the best way to configure this ?
[15:00] <dystopianray> Jessid: kubuntu
[15:00] <PMantis> Ubuntu 8.04 JeOS torrent file anyone?
[15:00] <LainIwakura> loder: Okay thanks.. although another user said that I should not add a gutsy repository line in my hardy sources.list?
[15:00] <tomd123> Sake: install desktop if you don't know
[15:00] <indian_munnda_> gord_: ok let me see.
[15:00] <Scunizi> SeanTater, I think there will be more mirrors available.
[15:00] <bazhang> !alternate | Sajuukkhar
[15:00] <ubotu> Sajuukkhar: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal - Torrent at http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:00] <Jessid> dystopianray: Ok man! see you! And thanks a lot!
[15:01] <cguillermo> theres the desktop edition, and an alternate one, that gives you additional options for installing
[15:01] <bakom> schnootop, I have the same problem
[15:01] <Sajuukkhar> u mean the i386 one and the other one?
[15:01] <loder> LainIwakura well as to the wisdom I couldn't say - I'm just a newbie who can search :)
[15:01] <bazhang> LainIwakura: dont mix repos versions; bad juju will happen ;]
[15:01] <schnootop> bakom, have you gotten anywhere yet or know why its happening >
[15:01] <LainIwakura> loder: Hehe, alright.
[15:01] <spiniker> is there a room for emerald?
[15:01] <LainIwakura> bazhang: Okay.. :/
[15:01] <cguillermo> no, there is a desktop and an alternate cd for i386
[15:01] <bakom> nope, sorry, schnootop
[15:02] <schnootop> thats ok, ill update all my packages and see if that will fix it
[15:02] <bazhang> spiniker: you can try #compiz-fusion
[15:02] <spiniker> i cant seem to get it running on hardy
[15:02] <spiniker> ok thnks
[15:02] <Sajuukkhar> where can i get the alternate cd
[15:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[15:02] <Sajuukkhar> ok
[15:02] <Scunizi> PMantis, http://www.sumotorrent.com/en/details/785331/hardy-jeos-i386.iso.html    2 secs on google.. found it
[15:02] <loder> LainIwakura I actually added the VLc repos before it became standard fair and obviously that doesn't pose any conflict issues
[15:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> i wanna more info about wubi
[15:03] <LainIwakura> loder: I see.
[15:03] <bazhang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent Sajuukkhar
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> it is available in ubuntu 8.0.4 server?
[15:03] <Sajuukkhar> im setting part's manualy
[15:03] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: http://www.wubi-installer.org
[15:03] <PMantis> Scunizi: Weird, I tried Google... took me to cdimage.ubuntu.com, which is dead ATM
[15:03] <PMantis> Scunizi: Thanks!
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> evand: nice.. thanks
[15:03] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php and yes it is.
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:03] <Scunizi> PMantis, np... I use www.google.com/linux  for linux related stuff
[15:03] <Fatty> Is there any way that I can update my current ubuntu to ubuntu 8, without burning it to a cd?
[15:03] <loder> I better go - I think I'm a good learner but not so good a teacher LOL
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice project
[15:03] <cguillermo> you shouldnt have to, if your installing from the entire disk the partitions are created automatically.
[15:03] <loder> Seeya
[15:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> it works????
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> is stable?
[15:04] <treut> flashplugin doesnt work in opera, with ubuntu 8.04
[15:04] <bazhang> Fatty: sure; just via the net you mean?
[15:04] <Valeria28> \whois
[15:04] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: Mimi: uhm, no, it's not available in Ubuntu Server
[15:04] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:  You can install any Ubuntu ISO or CD you got using Wubi. Read the Faq
[15:04] <evand> Aragorn_Guardian: yes, it works.  Yes, it's stable (though see the note about running it on Windows Vista)
[15:04] <bazhang> loder not so; you are very helpful thanks!
[15:04] <PMantis> Scunizi: Hmmm, 0 seeders, 0 leechers. Perhaps there's another on google.
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...gonna read the faq
[15:04] <Fatty> yea, i mean, i just installed ubuntu 7 like 2 weeks ago and now ubuntu 8 is out so i don't want to burn to cd, just want to like...update, some easy way
[15:04] <bazhang> haha vista
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks a lot
[15:04] <Fatty> heh i'm a noob
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> ubuntu always rules!!!!
[15:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[15:04]  * evand shakes fist at Vista.
[15:04] <FloodBot2> Aragorn_Guardian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:05] <bazhang> fatty you can dist-upgrade if you wish
[15:05] <Sajuukkhar> my partitions; 1 20 gig ext 3 with /home mount point, 2 20 gig ext 3 with / mount point, 3 789 mb swap file
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> there are something like a xp theme for gnome???
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> people are too confusing with linux desktop...
[15:05] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:  If you are good enough at computers that you want to use Server, you shouldn't need Wubi ;)
[15:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i hate users.. :/
[15:05] <Fatty> bazhang, just type dist-upgrade in a terminal?
[15:05] <indian_munnda> gord_: i did that and it showed the new MAC id.
[15:05] <Scunizi> PMantis, http://torrentz.ws/torrent/691417/hardy-jeos-i386-iso855012412442-5
[15:05] <LainIwakura> Is it hard to install a font by myself? Since the font I want to install is not in the Hardy repository
[15:05] <bazhang> fatty you need to make sure 7.10 is completely up-to-date first
[15:05] <Scunizi> !font | LainIwakura
[15:05] <ubotu> LainIwakura: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[15:05] <Fatty> it is
[15:06] <bazhang> !upgrade | Fatty
[15:06] <ubotu> Fatty: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: yeah, but my i got only an old machine by now.. :/....wubi is perfect...seemsvery nice
[15:06] <Myrtti> LainIwakura: put it in .fonts in your home directory
[15:06] <KiwiJoker> so whats hardy like so far?
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: an old with a windows....blarg
[15:06] <iddo> where do i see the last messages of the status log of the upgrade?
[15:06] <gord_> indian_munnda:ok good, so macchanger has at least worked....let me think a little 2 mins
[15:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: but nice...thanks
[15:06] <bazhang> KiwiJoker: try it out for yourself
[15:06] <Sajuukkhar> nope didnt work, one of the ext systems failed
[15:06] <Scunizi> Myrtti, he still have to rebuild the font cache
[15:06] <indian_munnda> gord_: ok take your time.
[15:06] <KiwiJoker> i will, but hows hardy working for others?
[15:06] <PMantis> Scunizi: Oh, lovely, that took me to poro links when I tried to download
[15:06] <Mimi> Aragorn_Guardian:   so you basically need  the server in a virtual machine to play around in? I do that too... try Virtual Box if you haven't yet. Works very well on windows
[15:07] <Fatty> oooh, just got an internal server error trying to go to that webpage
[15:07] <tomd123> KiwiJoker: Its easy and everything works alot better
[15:07] <bazhang> KiwiJoker: this is not a chat channel; bit crowded for that thanks
[15:07] <PMantis> Scunizi: I do appreciate the effort, though. :)
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> mimi
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> ops
[15:07] <elektronik123> who can unlock me on ubuntu-pl ?
[15:07] <Scunizi> PMantis, wow.. sorry.. I'll let you search ..
[15:07] <meatgrinder_> that upgrade link is dead
[15:07] <bazhang> elektronik123: /j #ubuntu-pl
[15:07] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: dont know...i try play with vmware...huge big...but works...
[15:08] <elektronik123> bazhang i can`t join there
[15:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> Mimi: nice!!! 8)
[15:08] <usicow> When I apt-get something, it always goes to us.archive.ubuntu.com. How can I change that?
[15:08] <PMantis> Scunizi: Heh, NP... google.com/linux was a good pinter
[15:08] <bazhang> elektronik123: you got banned?
[15:08] <eimajentha1> amenado, http://pastey.net/86532
[15:08] <PMantis> Scunizi: s/pinter/pointer/
[15:08] <elektronik123> bazhang yes
[15:08] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok the, the harwdware address of OK, does it have a IP address for that card? I assume eth0?
[15:08] <jburd> usicow: System > Administration > Software Sources
[15:08] <elektronik123> a lot time ago
[15:08] <bazhang> usicow: choose another mirror in synaptic
[15:09] <spiniker> would hardy still run on my old hp pIII machine,256mb ram?
[15:09] <ToxicSoul2> So I have slight problem, after upgrading my numpad no longer works
[15:09] <bharath> I installed hardy today; wireless does not work; hp pavilion laptop; Intel(R) 3945ABG/BG chip; iwl3945 driver. I see the chipset being detected in dmesg. But ifconfig does not show this interface. This was working perfectly in gutsy. Installing backports-modules did not help. Please help.
[15:09] <bazhang> spiniker: gnome hardy? doubtful
[15:09] <jburd> spiniker: Sure.  Give it a try.  You might want to use xubuntu though.
[15:09] <usicow> jburd/bazhang: Im only on SSH though.. do you know how I can do it via the console?
[15:09] <cguillermo> Sajuukkhar, you should reformat your drive first. the easiest way I know to do that without having an os installed is with the alternate cd
[15:09] <amenado> eimajentha1-> it looks like your /dev/sda1 is mounted to /
[15:09] <indian_munnda> gord_: i have provided the public IP to the card which was given to me by the ISP.
[15:10] <Fatty> bazhang, that link doesn't work
[15:10] <elektronik123> bazhang what can i do ?
[15:10] <cguillermo> you should try it
[15:10] <Sake> is there a terminal that's comparable to putty on windows?
[15:10] <Stockfisch> is anyone here using epiphany instead of firefox ?
[15:10] <jburd> usicow: You can forward X requests through SSH.   Just ssh in using ssh -X foobar@blah
[15:10] <DJones> spiniker: xubuntu might be better for a machine with that spec
[15:10] <Ubuntong>  Does Hardy Heron support compiz on new ATI cards?
[15:10] <eimajentha1> amenado: yes, but it's commented out, why is that?
[15:10] <sletak> I've checked the forum but didnt see any recent hits, my new hardy is hanging when syncing to the repository on Translation-en_US.  Seemed to be some hits in google going back to each release.  Anyone else gettign this?
[15:10] <spiniker> no imean i have 7.10 installed right now..but i think it's slowing down..
[15:10] <jburd> usicow: Or you'll need to manually edit: /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:10] <Nith> Sake: there is putty for linux
[15:10] <amenado> eimajentha1-> it is not commented out, its the line that starts at UUID=xxxx
[15:10] <bazhang> bharath: the transiton from ipw to iwl has a couple of outstanding bugs at the moment--the launchpad page has a couple of possible workarounds iirc
[15:10] <ddrplayer512> sletak: I'm getting this problem as well...
[15:10] <jburd> You don't need putty for linux
[15:10] <treut> Is anyone manage to get flashplayer working in opera with ubuntu 8.04 x86 ?
[15:10] <rohan> is there _any_ way to install ubuntu using the iso but without burning the cd? all the cdrw's that i've got are bad :(
[15:10] <sletak> putty for linux is gtk1
[15:10] <gord_> indian_munnda:ok, just confirm that you have a dirdcect (network) connection to the internet? u dont use a modem/router/firewall? for example?
[15:10] <bharath> thanks bazhang; I will look for them
[15:11] <Fatty> I have the same question as rohan
[15:11] <DJones> !usb | rohan
[15:11] <ubotu> rohan: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[15:11] <Nith> you don't need it, but it does exist
[15:11] <schnootop> anyone know the best way to rebuild my source.list with the latest sources ?
[15:11] <gord_> indian_munnda:direct# bad keyboard skills after 24 hours of release-helping haha
[15:11] <amenado> eimajentha1-> read carefully, the line before it is a comment  #/dev/sda1  but next line starting with UUID is not
[15:11] <ddrplayer512> The package manager hangs when I try to update simply because, at least I think, a server is down...
[15:11] <Sajuukkhar> i have reformatted this tho so many times
[15:11] <jburd> rohan, Fatty: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 <ISO_PATH> /mnt/
[15:11] <Nith> rohan: do you have a second computer (linux)?
[15:11] <bazhang> fatty okay; change gutsy to hardy in sources.list then sudo apt-get update  followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (and wait for a bit as a ton of packages are downloaede)
[15:11] <sletak> Sake: what are you trying to accomplish?  Do you need wyse60 emulation or something?
[15:11] <jburd> rohan: Mount the ISO to a point.
[15:11] <eimajentha1> amenado: I see!  the UUID identifies the filesystem, and /dev/sda1 is just there for my benefit?
[15:11] <indian_munnda> gord_: ;) , yes it is a direct connection to the ISP.
[15:12] <rohan> jburd: but then what?
[15:12] <spiniker> can i upgrade using the terminal?
[15:12] <rohan> Nith: no, second computer is windows only :(
[15:12] <jburd> rohan: after that run this if you aren't already prompted:
[15:12] <Fatty> where is sources.list, again?
[15:12] <jburd> /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:12] <elektronik123> where are irc ops ?
[15:12] <Fatty> ah ok
[15:12] <frieze> so is there a way to use a remote gui tool to set up a firewall on an ubuntu server install without actually installing x windows on the server itself?
[15:12] <bazhang> spiniker: from gutsy to hardy? sure
[15:12] <amenado> eimajentha1-> please man fstab  so you can understand what that file is about
[15:12] <termitor> hello
[15:12] <jburd> gksudo 'sh /mnt/cdromupgrade'
[15:12] <rohan> jburd: it's a desktop cd, not a alternate one
[15:12] <eimajentha1> amenado: never seen it done that way, but apparently it works.  Thanks for your help.
[15:13] <makkbe> spiniker: yes, do-release-upgrade
[15:13] <bazhang> elektronik123: go to #ubuntu-ops
[15:13] <jburd> Oh, I see.  You can't upgrade always using the Desktop CD rohan
[15:13] <spiniker> yes gutsy to hardy
[15:13] <amenado> eimajentha1-> please do read  man fstab
[15:13] <unimatrix9> i guess the new ubuntu is making waves outhere...
[15:13] <nappula> I can see my wireless card on my iwconfig and the mode is auto even though it should be managed but I can't get the card down to change the mode
[15:13] <jburd> rohan: You'll need the alternate disc.  It's best to download the live/alternate DVD ISO
[15:13] <eimajentha1> amenado: Reading
[15:13]  * N3bunel brb pauza de masa
[15:13] <Nith> frieze: yes, using ssh and +X you can run ayn gui program and the comp you're sshing into doesn't need an X server
[15:13]  * jburd is doing that
[15:13] <Sake> slestak: I dunno what that means. I just like how putty uses a small font and works with everything. :)
[15:13] <ddrplayer512> Hello everyone! My package manager freezes when I try to reload the repositories. I had just done a fresh install less than 30 minutes ago. Does anyone else have this problem
[15:13] <Itaku> my number keys on the right dont work but i have num lock on. how do i fix it
[15:13] <Fatty> bazhang, you said change gutsy to hardy, how do i do that? do i need to download the iso first?
[15:13] <ddrplayer512> ?
[15:13] <gord_> indian_munnda: ok then, (some ppl dont realise it might be the modem/router mac they have to change/spoof ) OK, so can you ping anything? try ping <IP_ADDRESS>   its google.com
[15:13] <Sajuukkhar> im off to bed
[15:13] <Nith> frieze: if you want ot get more information, its alled "x forwarding"
[15:14] <Itaku> it moves the mouse everytime i hit a number
[15:14] <jones> greetings all. just upgraded to 8.04 and it is pretty cool. are the repo's running slow for everyone?
[15:14] <amenado> ddrplayer512-> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:14] <Sajuukkhar> 8 hours until i get this alternate cd
[15:14] <bazhang> makkbe: sorry; what is the full command? do-release-upgrade in the run command or int the terminal
[15:14] <nibsa1242b> ddrplayer512: the repos are overwhelmed... give people a few days to upgrade and they'll stop being swamped
[15:14] <unimatrix9> hardy : when i try to open login screen settings it does not start it, any tips?
[15:14] <snadge> i have a gutsy install.. and the alternate install for hardy, and the first time i put the disc in.. it asked me if i wanted to upgrade, and then failed (because i couldn't connect to internet).. and now when i put the disc in, it no longer prompts to upgrade.. how do i fix this
[15:14] <amenado> jones yes, its very very slow
[15:14] <makkbe> bazhang: in the terminal
[15:14] <treut> hi
[15:14] <termitor> someone have wifi bug ? the wifi get slowing after 15 minutes , (ralink 2500 pci )
[15:14] <rohan> Nith: what were you going to suggest anyway?
[15:14] <Sajuukkhar> what happens if the alternate cd doesnt work for my partitions?
[15:14] <nibsa1242b> Sajuukkhar: try a torrent, I got one in less then an hour
[15:14] <jones> amenado: thanks. just curious.
[15:14] <red_> i cant install limepro coz gdebi says it connot connect to ubuntu repository while the downloading the last file. my system is up to date with all repo except source code enabled. do i need to add another repo on the list
[15:14] <bazhang> makkbe: is that preceded by anything? or just that command
[15:14] <amenado> unimatrix9-> try  ctrl+alt+F1 to F5 to test the log on
[15:14] <rohan> jburd: anyway, i'd rather clean install than upgrade
[15:14] <asigrist> are the package servers down right now?
[15:15] <ddrplayer512> Ah... I imagine that. I've seen that happen when Gutsy came out, too. I should have known... Thanks!
[15:15] <Nith> rohan: I've got a computer without a working CDROM drive, I use a PXE server to install
[15:15] <snadge> how do i "force" gutsy to update to hardy using the install cd? (after its already failed once and no longer prompts to upgrade)
[15:15] <ddrplayer512> I'll try later.
[15:15] <Sajuukkhar> nibs, i have 25 kb/s internet
[15:15] <Nith> rohan: its a bit long to set up but it works well
[15:15] <amenado> asigrist-> -> the server side is busy, you may have the perception it is busy and unresponsive..
[15:15] <makkbe> bazhang: no, just that command
[15:15] <unimatrix9> amendado, i want to set it to auto login, but the manager does not start
[15:15] <jones> is there a way to remove the firefox 3 beta and use the old firefox? i have a lot of plugins that do not work in 3.. thanks for any help
[15:15] <unimatrix9> from gnome menu systeem..
[15:15] <frieze> Nith: thanks. I thought that when I ran ssh -Y it was doing forwarding but my understanding was that all teh gui stuff was happening on the remote machine using my local machine as a display. Since it seems like server and client are used interchangeably in x11 terminology I may have gotten that back-to-front
[15:15] <indian_munnda> gord_: no i can't ping anything other than my ISP server(the server to which i login before using).
[15:15] <asigrist> amenado, yea my network connection is quite fast yet i still can't even reload my repositories data.
[15:15] <bazhang> fatty you want to do this all via the cli?
[15:15] <makkbe> jones: sudo apt-get install firefox-2
[15:15] <Fatty> cli?
[15:15] <makkbe> then you will have both of them installed
[15:16] <jones> makke: do i need to remove the 3 version?
[15:16] <rohan> Nith: there's no PXE server available for windows? anyway, for that you'd need the alternate disc, right?
[15:16] <Sajuukkhar> so what happens if the alternate cd doesnt work? do i just give up and go back to dapper drake?
[15:16] <amenado> unimatrix9-> try  ctrl+alt+F1 to F5 to test the log on  <-- to test it first
[15:16] <red_> i cant install limewire pro coz gdebi says it connot connect to ubuntu repository while downloading the last file. my system is up to date with all repo except source code enabled. do i need to add another repo on the list? any help pls
[15:16] <treut> Is anyone manage to get flashplayer working in opera with ubuntu 8.04 x86 ?
[15:16] <bazhang> makkbe: could you please explain what you just said to Fatty? he wants to upgrade from gutsy to hardy thanks
[15:16] <jones> makkbe: do i need to remove 3?
[15:16] <Fatty> yes, help me, lol
[15:16] <makkbe> jones: nah, you can have then both installed
[15:16] <spiniker> well it's taking a little while,but hey,its worth the wait..
[15:16] <gord_> indian_munnda: aha , i see. and that ping is by IP? not "domain.org" yes?
[15:17] <makkbe> Fatty: just run do-release-upgrade in a terminal
[15:17] <mino> any french channel pls?
[15:17] <bazhang> !fr
[15:17] <makkbe> it will upgrade from gutsy to hardy
[15:17] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:17] <Nith> rohan: yeah. Any reason you can't just upgate?
[15:17] <jones> makkbe: how will it know which one to load? also will all the flash and java work between the 2 of them? thanks for the help
[15:17] <Theo_> Restricted drivers: why does it say my graphics driver is not in use?
[15:17] <amenado> Sajuukkhar-> try to make it work
[15:17] <rohan> Nith: i usually like clean installs :)
[15:17] <makkbe> jones: ff2 will show up in your app menu
[15:17] <indian_munnda> gord_: i can only ping my gateway nothing else.
[15:17] <makkbe> so you will have to choose for yourself which one to start
[15:17] <jburd> rohan: Some of us can't do clean installs without going to great lengths
[15:17] <jones> makkbe: ok i will try it now.
[15:18] <Fatty> thanks makkbe, i'll let you know if that works
[15:18] <gord_> indian_munnda: hmmmm ok. we're reaching the ned of my sure-fire knowledge here i'm afraid :(
[15:18] <indian_munnda> gord_: :)
[15:18] <rohan> jburd: i seem to be one of them, and only for a lack of a cd :-/
[15:18] <amenado> rohan-> what do you consider clean install? you can try something like from install from scratch with  debootstrap  but for now only available is 7.10 not 8.04 yet
[15:18] <ddrplayer512> I really like that new thing where you can use the desktop CD and choose the option to just Install Ubuntu. Has anyone tried that?
[15:18] <rohan> fedora iso has a convenient livecd-iso-to-usb script
[15:19] <Fatty> 0% [working] for a while now
[15:19] <bazhang> ddrplayer512: aye its nice
[15:19] <d1nker> Theo_: if you figure it out let me know
[15:19] <artti> Does sudo apt-get upgrade will upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04?
[15:19] <jburd> rohan: I have tons of development stuff lying around that I don't want to recreate
[15:19] <makkbe> artti: no
[15:19] <snadge> can anyone tell me how to make it so when i insert the alternate install cd to my gutsy install.. it prompts me to upgrade?? its only done it once, and no longer asks me.. there must be some temp files laying around or something?\
[15:19] <tomd123> artti: no
[15:19] <makkbe> artti: but do-release-upgrade will
[15:19] <bazhang> rohan ubuntu has one as well
[15:19] <spiniker> maybe ill upgrade in the next few days..it's taking too long
[15:19] <amenado> Fatty-> the far end server is very very busy, your update may not complete for a long time..far too many downloading
[15:19] <qryzy> anyone assist in configuring networ where rest of pc have xp
[15:19] <jburd> spiniker: Use a different mirror
[15:19] <bhsx> hey, i have Crossover Office 6.2 and it works great, but I was wondering how the 'official' ubuntu wine package is?  does it have a GUI fe now like was planned?
[15:19] <Theo_> How do I enable my ati graphics card?
[15:19] <Ubuntong>  Does Hardy Heron support compiz on new ATI video cards?
[15:19] <rohan> bazhang: where?
[15:19] <bhsx> is it 1.0?
[15:20] <bazhang> rohan you can /msg ubotu install for a link
[15:20] <Fatty> yea i figured, it'll download eventually though right?