[11:24] <Seveas> Fily: a bug is a when a part of ubuntu does not behave as it should. Of course "behaving as it should" is up for interpretation, so if you see behaviour that you think is wrong, check with others and maybe report it as a bug.
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> lotuspsychje, wanting to try my ssd read/write speed without killing it
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Wiz_KeeD: pm me
[11:25] <Seveas> Fily: e.g. refusing to boot after installing is clearly a bug, but the indexed causing massive disk i/o in its initial run is a feature.
[11:30] <MarkShuttleworth> hello
[11:30] <MarkShuttleworth> MY NAME IS MARK SHUTTLEWORTH
[11:30] <MarkShuttleworth> AND I AM YOUR GOD
[11:30] <MarkShuttleworth> LET US NOT FORGET
[11:30] <FloodBot1> MarkShuttleworth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <BlackDalek> ok, it seems like there is no way I can use cdrdao without first creating a toc-file... Can I do this in gedit?
[11:37] <TJ-> BlackDalek: "man cdrdao" then "/^TOC FILES" <Enter>
[11:41] <L0j1k> mark shuttleworth is a huge tool
[11:42] <FourFire> Hello, in 12.04 is there some way to have nautilus synch folders?
[11:43] <BlackDalek> TJ-, thank you.
[11:43] <FourFire> or some special script for such a thing?
[11:43] <Seveas> FourFire: sync between what?
[11:44] <FourFire> I have an application of which I have multiple installs of and these require separate folder trees, but I want to use the same files for each version
[11:44] <FourFire> and not have to copy& paste them manually
[11:44] <Seveas> so, symlink them?
[11:45] <FourFire> never heard of it, link?
[11:45] <Seveas> http://linux.die.net/man/1/ln
[11:48] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys I have created two partitions for ubuntu, one mounted to / and one to /home, windows sees these partitions as empty and gives me the ability to format, can something be done to "hide" them?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Wiz_KeeD, odd - my windows NEVER sees my ubuntu.  are you dual booting or wubi?
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> cfhowlett, dual booting of course but no wubi
[11:49] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: Did you format them using NTFS or FAT32 ?
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, I formated the SSD and used 80gb NTFS for windows and the rest I just used gparted and made two partitions ext4 mounted to / and /home and 4gigs or so linux-swap space
[11:49] <Wiz_KeeD> that's it
[11:49] <aslayheu> ubuntu?
[11:50] <Wiz_KeeD> and I see two damn drives in 8.1 in my computer there, and when I click is asks if I want to format, I can only assume it's the ubuntu partitions
[11:54] <Seveas> Wiz_KeeD: install the ext4 driver for windows and you can use those partitions :)
[11:55] <Seveas> http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[11:55] <Wiz_KeeD> Seveas, that a nice idea! :)) why not have access to them if they are visible
[11:57] <Wiz_KeeD> Now can someone pretty please help me with my wireless issue?:(
[11:58] <BlackDalek> in a toc-file, what is mode 1 tracks? Is that normal data tracks? e.g. -  "CD_ROM The  disc contains just mode 1 tracks or mode 1 and audio tracks" I am wanting to ultimately burn a data only CD (not audio).
[12:01] <TJ-> BlackDalek: mode-1 tracks are data tracks for a file-system, such as ISO-9660 or UDF, if I recall correctly
[12:08] <tijs> Hey how can I compile evince? I get install: error: cannot  install `libpdfdocument.la' to a directory not ending in  /opt/lib/evince/4/backends
[12:13] <Seveas> tijs: why compile it? apt-get install evince
[12:14] <BrainBug> Hello, can anyone help me:  Ubuntu 13.10 x64 - Ati HD 3400 series running radeon (7.2.0) driver,  3.0 mesa 9.2.1, gallium 0.4  ; the cpu cooler going nuts and Dash very slow, due too no GPU acceleration. What can be causing this?
[12:15] <tijs> I want to take a look at the source (debugging, profiling, etc)
[12:15] <aslayheu> help me. emphaty on ubuntu 13.04 . requires authorisation
[12:18] <Seveas> aslayheu: what does? Installing it?
[12:18] <Seveas> tijs: for that you don't need to install from source, just build from source and run out of the build directory.
[12:19] <aslayheu> cannot connect to facebook account
[12:21] <Renato> Hello Guys, I have a quick question for you. I want to purchase a new laptop and I am bettwen 2 models: Dell XPS 13 L322X and Lenovo ThinkPad T60, do you use one of these models? It was ok regarding drivers compatibility with ubuntu? Or should I go for System76 models? Thank you
[12:21] <Seveas> aslayheu: seems to be an unsolved bug. http://askubuntu.com/questions/344239/empathy-facebook-account-requires-authorization-problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telepathy-gabble/+bug/1170832
[12:21] <tijs> Seveas: Indeed, that was exactly what I wanted to do, but with evince that did not work
[12:22] <cfhowlett> renan_saddam, the sputnik drivers are customized and functional for that model.
[12:22] <tijs> ./evince gives me: "(lt-evince:21300): EvinceDocument-WARNING **: Error opening directory '/opt/lib/evince/4/backends': No such file or directory
[12:22] <Seveas> tijs: not even with liberal use of LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[12:22] <Seveas> ah
[12:23] <Seveas> well, then build on the ubuntu package: apt-get source evince; make whatever changes you want; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot; dpkg -i ../evince*deb
[12:25] <tijs> I might have an idea..
[12:28] <BoneYard> hello
[12:29] <BoneYard> is anyone here using Bodhi?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !anyone|BoneYard,
[12:29] <BoneYard> any one
[12:30] <tijs> Seveas I just used make, I didn't know that debian could do that XO. Thanks for helping
[12:30] <Seveas> BoneYard: bodhi linux is offtopic here. try #bodhilinux
[12:31] <BoneYard> having a small issue getting weather gadget to recognize my location, any help would be greatly appreciated :) "bodhi linux NON PAE on IMB Thinkpad R50e"
[12:31] <cfhowlett> BoneYard, bodhi IS NOT SUPPORTED HERE ... see #bodhilinux
[12:32] <BoneYard> no worries, thanks :)
[12:44] <jiangbo> i am using opensuse
[12:44] <cfhowlett> jiangbo, wrong channel.  not supported. here.  sorry.
[12:45] <jiangbo> i know,i only try xchat
[12:57] <midzas> hi
[13:02] <matrixa1> Hi all I have a question about bash. I'm writing an sh script and I'm calling a file like so: ./var/new/prgram but the executable never runs
[13:03] <kongthap> please help, i created a symbolic link using "sudo ln -s ~/www/ajax /var/www/ajax" i'm trying to use "ls -la /var/www" i got this "ajax -> /home/kongthap/www/ajax" why i cannot use the browser to open http://localhost/ajax/index.php ???
[13:03] <Random832> matrixa1: relative paths are relative to the directory you're in when you run the script, not the directory the script is in
[13:03] <matrixa1> if I however go into the directory beforehand "cd /var/new/" then run ./prgram then it works
[13:04] <yeats> kongthap: check your apache logs
[13:04] <matrixa1> Random832, so I have to change /bin/bash to /bin/var ?
[13:04] <kongthap> yeats, can you please tell me where the log is ??
[13:04] <matrixa1> I mean /bin/bash to /var/new/ *
[13:05] <yeats> kongthap: you're using ubuntu, yes?
[13:05] <blue112> Hello !
[13:05] <kongthap> yeats, yes it's 13.04
[13:05] <blue112> Is there a fast way to extract a part of a binary file from a known byte position to a known byte position ?
[13:05] <yeats> kongthap: then it would be /var/log/apache2
[13:06] <matrixa1> Random832, never mind, thank you! I've found it out
[13:06] <kongthap> yeats, it should be access.log right?
[13:06] <yeats> blue112: 'cut' or 'awk' should do it - try 'man cut' or 'man awk' for syntax
[13:07] <blue112> yeats, it's *binary* and it's HUGE (14gb)
[13:07] <Haferstroh> Hello, does anyone knows how to print a boarder around multipage prints?
[13:07] <yeats> kongthap: or error.log
[13:07] <blue112> I'm using dd currently, but it's too slow :/
[13:08] <yeats> blue112: with a file that big anything will be slow
[13:10] <kongthap> yeats, please help me find out http://paste.ubuntu.com/6820101/
[13:12] <Lorenci> Hello Guys.
[13:13] <linuxearth> hello Lorenci
[13:13] <linuxearth> how are you today?
[13:14] <Lorenci> Linux Earth good thank you
[13:14] <linuxearth> my pleasure dude
[13:14] <Lorenci> Can you help me for something ?
[13:14] <linuxearth> BTW you from where...?
[13:14] <Lorenci> Albania.
[13:14] <linuxearth> of course, if i know i can!
[13:15] <Lorenci> Ok.Thank you.
[13:15] <Lorenci> I have problem with charachter in Ubuntu 13.10 i want to make this charachter ë but when i try to do it with Alt+"+ e  he gives me this : é
[13:15] <Lorenci> what to do?
[13:15] <linuxearth> oh, are you trying in .odt format?
[13:15] <Lorenci> Yes.
[13:15] <Lorenci> But the same results
[13:16] <linuxearth> oh
[13:16] <linuxearth> BTW, dude, i don't know about it, did you google it?
[13:16] <linuxearth> type in google and copy from there...then just reduce/set the size you wish to retain...;)-
[13:16] <kongthap> yeats, please help me find out this is what's in error.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6820101/
[13:17] <Lorenci> linuxearth thank you.
[13:17] <linuxearth> i am new too!
[13:17] <kongthap> yeats, when i open the page from the browser there was no errors just empty page
[13:22] <yeats> kongthap: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5326531/php-warning-unknown-failed-to-open-stream - might help (found with a cursory google search of the error, btw)
[13:23] <kongthap> yeats, thanks
[13:23] <jnx404> hey guys! i'm thinking about buying this machine. should i expect any problems installing the latest LTS? http://www.ditech.at/item.do?kurzbez=MPCVS01
[13:24] <jobriath> Hi all. I have a Monoprice 5543:0781 tablet. The digimend project tells my that my kernel and evdev driver are the right version to run it. xinput --text gives me coordinates and pressure readings. Only problem is that it doesn't drive the cursor, *unless* I reload the usbhid module with a quirk parameter; and then, it'll break again when I click something. Is there anyone online today who could give me some pointers?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !hardware|jnx404,
[13:24] <jnx404> ubottu: thx!
[13:25] <codephobic> hi
[13:25] <cfhowlett> codephobic, greetings
[13:25] <codephobic> Could anyone recommend a really good site to learn about scripting/automating things in linux/ubuntu?
[13:25] <codephobic> hi cfhowlett
[13:26] <cfhowlett> codephobic,
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !bash
[13:26] <{Civil}> Bash Quote: 419 (7) > http://www.bash.org/?419
 wtf is a-team
[13:26] <jakub> #polska
[13:26] <yeats> !abs | codephobic
[13:27] <codephobic> thanks cfhowlett, yeats
[13:27] <codephobic> I'll read the advanced guide
[13:28] <kongthap> yeats, it's working now but this really confuses me, i wasn't working with greater file permission, but with less it's working, any advices from you???
[13:31] <dimsen> Hey guys .. somebody from Germany here .. ??
[13:31] <cfhowlett> !de|dimsen,
[13:32] <dimsen> Thank you guys
[13:43] <Aqua2> Hi
[13:44] <Aqua2> Xubuntu 12.04 keeps hanging on retrieving file 52 of 102 for some time now
[13:44] <Aqua2> Just keep it going?
[13:44] <cfhowlett> Aqua2, retrieving WHAT files?
[13:46] <Aqua2> Uuuhm
[13:47] <azazeln28> exit
[13:47] <Aqua2> Nl.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/universe translation
[13:47] <Aqua2> cfhowlett:
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Aqua2, OK - that would be the repo.  What command did you execute to download, i.e. what exactly are you trying to do?
[13:49] <Aqua2> Im just using the xubuntu 12.04 liveusb
[13:49] <Aqua2> To install it
[13:49] <Aqua2> Its been on that screen for about 1.5 hours now
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Aqua2, got it.  well, you don't HAVE to be connected to the internet to install.  First install offline, then run your updates
[13:50] <Aqua2> Its not connected
[13:50] <Aqua2> Hm, it was connected
[13:50] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|Aqua2, then it's downloading from your source /usb - suspect that it's corrupted.  run the md5sum on your iso
[13:50] <Aqua2> Didnt have connection to the internet though
[13:50] <Aqua2> I unplugged all
[13:50] <Aqua2> Now it continues
[13:53] <jobriath> A (final) repost in case anyone missed it: I have a Monoprice 5543:0781 graphics tablet. The digimend project tells my that my kernel and evdev driver are the right version to run it. xinput --text gives me coordinates and pressure readings. Only problem is that it doesn't drive the cursor, *unless* I reload the usbhid module with a quirk parameter; and then, it'll break again when I click something. Is there anyone online today who could gi
[13:53] <jobriath> ve me some pointers? If not, I'll try again later.
[13:53] <jobriath> Wahey, autosplitscript.  Hopefully that'll kick my tablet into order. Have a good 'un, all.
[14:09] <soocheor> 안녕하세요?
[14:10] <ukubuntu> Quick question. If I want to make a live cd for running ubuntu on a macbook, do I need the standard 64bit download? are there no longer different images for ppc etc, and would a livecd I installd on my intel hp machine work in a macbook. Thanks
[14:10] <TJ-> !cn | soocheor
[14:10] <Fily> I received tha mail from Jonathan Riddel on Secon Alpha of trusty Tahr (14.04 LTS). I'd like to test these ISO on a laptop. Is it better to launch ISO from DVD or on a Virtual Machine?? Thanks
[14:11] <TJ-> Fily: best testing coverage comes from trying it on the bare hardware
[14:14] <Fily> TJ, so you think it's better to write these ISO on a DVD??
[14:14] <TJ-> Fily: I'd write to a USB but DVD is sometimes useful to ensure the drive is re-mounted correctly in the /target
[14:16] <Fily> TJ, is it possible to download for instance Ubuntu GNOME Secon Alpha on USB? How can i  do this?
[14:16] <ukubuntu> So no one knows the answer? Is it the same cd for macbook and windows and do I use a 32 OR 64 bit?
[14:20] <VlanX> TJ-: I belive that was korean
[14:21] <glitsj16> Fily: you can download the ubuntu-gnome 14.04 alpha 2 from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/trusty/alpha-2/ .. fyi, support for 14.04 is next door in #ubuntu+1
[14:34] <VlanX> so much silence...
[14:34] <Seryth> Shhh child.
[14:34] <VlanX> no problems anyone?
[14:34] <VlanX> ok my turn
[14:34] <VlanX> I run a "rm -rf" on my root directory, what should I do now?
[14:35] <llutz> VlanX: be happy you haven't used sude
[14:35] <llutz> sudo
[14:35] <overrr> Is there any way to check whether I remember correct password to my id_rsa.pub file?
[14:37] <llutz> overrr: ssh-keygen -y
[14:38] <glitsj16> VlanX: did you run that from a root terminal?
[14:39] <DF3D2> TJ-, you around ?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> VlanX  don't run it
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> VlanX  use a chroot to know what it does, it's what i did
[14:40] <TJ-> DF3D2: I am, hacking on tianocore
[14:40] <DF3D2> speaking of chroots I can't get this to work at all
[14:40] <DF3D2> i keep getting this error
[14:41] <DF3D2>  usr/bin/lesspipe: 295: [: =: unexpected operator
[14:41] <TJ-> DF3D2: show me the script? Looks like there's a space missing in an if statement, between a "[" and the surrounding text
[14:42] <DF3D2> TJ-, im doing it by hand I had trouble with that script you wrote
[14:42] <TJ-> DF3D2: what command is causing that error, then?
[14:42] <DF3D2> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/bAh5frUe i get that error when I actually type chroot /media/usb
[14:42] <DF3D2> those are the commands im doing
[14:43] <plut0> is there a way to get nautilus to prompt for a password when trying to mount a cifs share from /etc/fstab ?
[14:43] <TJ-> DF3D2: when does the error occur? when you do 'update-grub' ?
[14:43] <DF3D2> TJ-, no when I type chroot /media/usb
[14:43] <mikubuntu> ok, i have a long history of not backing things up -- most everything i save is from the internet. but now i need to clear this computer off and take my files to my new laptop. i haven't got a clue what to do. i thought i could drag and drop whole directories into a 16 gb usb, but it doesn't seem to be the case. anyone available to help me?
[14:43] <DF3D2> update grub runs but doesnt seem to actually work
[14:44] <TJ-> DF3D2: hmmm, and the USB file-system is already mounted to /media/usb/ ?
[14:44] <DF3D2> yes
[14:44] <DF3D2> /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb type ext4 (rw)
[14:45] <Linoron> hi all, I have tried to make UEFI-bootable Live USB sticks for both Ubuntu and LinuxMint, but cannot seem to get any of them WRITEABLE and BOOTable in UEFI (secureboot is disabled). This USB live stick I use now, is read-only even if I made it by specifying 1GB of space for documents etc... Using ubuntu=startup-disk=creator or the gtk version, available from the default repositories.
[14:46] <DF3D2> TJ-, it's odd I have no idea what is going on
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> guys, my ubuntu won't boot anymore, it's getting stuck at Loading inital ramdisk, in recovery mode too
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Does it have to do with the fact that it's on a SSD?
[14:46] <VlanX> glitsj16, MonkeyDust: lol guys that was a joke, I think no one would be that stupid...
[14:46] <Aqua2> Ok
[14:46] <VlanX> I hope so...
[14:47] <VlanX> wait... I could try that on a VM just for the hell of it
[14:48] <yeats> !ot | VlanX
[14:48] <VlanX> :(
[14:48] <TJ-> DF3D2: the "/bin/lesspipe" script is failing on line 295
[14:50] <asdasdasdfsdfsaf> s.a
[14:50] <DF3D2> TJ-,  if [ $BASENAME = $LESSFILE ]; then
[14:50] <Aqua2> Ok
[14:50] <Aqua2> Ao....
[14:50] <Aqua2> So*
[14:50] <Aqua2> I installed xubuntu
[14:50] <FloodBot1> Aqua2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:50] <Aqua2> Fresh install
[14:50] <yeats> !enter
[14:50] <Aqua2> After updating and upgrading
[14:50] <Aqua2> I installed the propriarity drivers
[14:51] <Aqua2> After rebooting it keeps hanging on the loading screen
[14:51] <Aqua2> Its all frozen
[14:51] <Aqua2> Cant even ctrl alt f1
[14:51] <Aqua2> Does anyone know how to fix?
[14:51] <TJ-> DF3D2: yes... the only way I can see that line failing is if either of the variables contains a string with spaces in it.
[14:52] <Aqua2> Oh im sorry ubpttu
[14:52] <DF3D2> TJ-, im at a loss this worked yesterday
[14:52] <Aqua2> ubottu: *
[14:52] <TJ-> DF3D2: To guard against such things we usually surround both in double-quotes... at the top of lesspipe it sets LESSFILE=lessfile, and BASENAME to the basename of the script
[14:53] <DF3D2> TJ-, so should those order of commands work or no?
[14:54] <TJ-> DF3D2: In the chroot, have you customised anything, especially shell scripts or includes?
[14:54] <morsnowski> !die
[14:55] <TJ-> DF3D2: Because, as "man chroot" says... "If no command is given, run '${SHELL} -i' (default: '/bin/sh -i')" ... so /bin/sh is being run inside the chroot
[14:56] <DF3D2> TJ-, im getting that command when I do it manually and no I haven't customized anything
[14:56] <TJ-> DF3D2: have you checked that "/media/usb/bin/sh" exists and looks the correct size etc?
[14:56] <xomp> Anyone here available to help me with my email issue? Postfix says the mail was delivered to mailbox but the message never arrives in the users mailbox. I'm using Google Apps with my domain for Email.
[14:59] <mikubuntu> ok, i am copying files from my desktop directory to a usb -- keep getting 'invalid filename' msgs (list) attributed mostly to screenshot .png files -- anybody know what the reason might be?
[15:01] <msdw> how are you copying the files <mikubuntu>
[15:01] <msdw> terminal or gyui
[15:01] <DF3D2> TJ-, it doesnt seem to exist !?
[15:02] <mikubuntu> also, i could not find a place to read the properties of the directory -- what will happen if the copy process fills the 16gb usb limit and still has more data?
[15:02] <TJ-> DF3D2: Are you sure the USB stick is mounted at /media/usb/ "mount | grep usb" ?
[15:02] <DF3D2> TJ-, lrwxrwxrwx 1 999 999       4 Jan  5 23:27 sh -> dash
[15:02] <DF3D2> i have that if I ls -l it
 so you want to know how heavy it its???
[15:02] <TJ-> DF3D2: OK, that's a symlink to dash, which is normal
[15:03] <DF3D2> TJ-, /dev/sdc1 on /media/usb type ext4 (rw)
[15:03] <mikubuntu> is there a good file manager with a strong 'tagging' feature, rather than putting things into hundreds of folders?
[15:03] <TJ-> DF3D2: when the shell starts in interactive mode it reads various scripts ... one of those scripts is using 'lesspipe' which is resulting in that error.
[15:03] <mikubuntu> file management is a drag -- no wonder i've never paid much attention to it
[15:04] <DF3D2> TJ-, all i rly need to do is tell grub to use a different UUID, can I do that once grub is booted somehow?
[15:04] <TJ-> mikubuntu: So is keeping things organised in kitchen cupboards, but without it you'll have a hard time finding obscure things when you want them :)
[15:04] <plut0> is there a way to force nautilus to prompt for a password when trying to mount a cifs share from /etc/fstab ?
[15:05] <DF3D2> TJ-, I have a grub rescue prompt
[15:05] <TJ-> DF3D2: If you're seeing that error from the chroot it suggests that booting from that image could also be affected
[15:05] <DF3D2> im seeing it from booting it
[15:05] <DF3D2> i really need this fixed
[15:05] <DF3D2> :-\
[15:05] <TJ-> DF3D2: so there is something wrong with the images
[15:06] <DF3D2> hmm how so?
[15:07] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ok, ok, ok --- i get it. can you give me some tips on how to do it right/better? as i think about it, tagging seems to be a more effective way to identify files, but i don't see any such feature in my file manager (which i guess is thunar?)
[15:08] <DF3D2> TJ-, okay im gonna start over -- gonna copy the files from the working ubuntu install on to the usb from a live-usb, then ill try to chroot and install grub again from there
[15:08] <DF3D2> http://pastebin.com/1wf5B2nz -- that is the correct order of commands?
[15:08] <TJ-> DF3D2: Why don't you use debootstrap to create the installs?
[15:09] <DF3D2> TJ-, I need the files from that working install idk what debootstrap is
[15:09] <ShawnRisk> How come every process bar popup window (Update Cache, Install Driver - Openprinting and more) freezes in Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:10] <TJ-> mikubuntu: Operating system files are generally organised in a well-defined hierarchy; you can imagine the directory names as tags. User files is up to the user :)
[15:10] <mikubuntu> is it possible to stop the copy process (cancel) and then resume later? as i watch the progress, i'm seeing lots of files i don't need that i prolly should delete before resaving to a new computer
[15:10] <mikubuntu> TJ-: now you want me to imagine things
[15:10] <mikubuntu> lol
[15:11] <DF3D2> TJ-, is there a better method? I'd use dd but the source drive is much bigger
[15:11] <TJ-> mikubuntu: There may be a tagging file manager but I'm not aware of one, because I mostly work with files from a shell
[15:12] <TJ-> DF3D2: Your current approach ought to be OK if you're copying everything into the clone
[15:13] <DF3D2> TJ-, yeah im copying all the files
[15:13] <MASbro> hello im getting false readings when transfering files in ubuntu
[15:14] <ShawnRisk> any ideas on my problem?
[15:14] <DF3D2> TJ-, is there no way to use dd to clone from a larger drive to a smaller, like tell it to stop the image at a certain size ?
[15:14] <TJ-> DF3D2: I'm wondering if there's some USB corruption going on
[15:14] <mikubuntu> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tag+your+files+and+folders+linux
[15:14] <giacy> ciaoooo
[15:15] <TJ-> DF3D2: not in the way you want, no. 'dd' is for block device or single-file duplication
[15:15] <giacy> hiiiiiiiii
[15:15] <MASbro> u transfer lets say a gb file and it goes blazin fast according to the progress bar and done. open the file and its only partially copied or corrupted
[15:16] <DF3D2> TJ-, ok
[15:16] <ShawnRisk> How come every process bar popup window (Update Cache, Install Driver - Openprinting and more) freezes in Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:16] <yeats> MASbro: do the checksums match between the original and the copy?
[15:17] <yeats> MASbro: and what method of transfer are you using?
[15:17] <MASbro> just drag and drop from a folder to my flash disk. btw it only happens on a usb stick in fat32 or ntfs. no probs with an external hdd
[15:17] <llutz> MASbro: you copy files to a different filesystem? use "sync" mount-option to prevent this
[15:17] <mikubuntu> i have a feeling this stick is going to overload -- just saw that i have at least one dvd os image in my desktop thats at least 2gb right there -- i should have deleted it. again anyone -- can i cancel the copy process, and then resume, or will i have to reformat and start all over?
[15:18] <MASbro> well ubuntu is ext4 and my flash disk is either fat 32 or ntfs. it never happens on my external hdd which is ntfs
[15:19] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If you can identify the copying process you could TERMinate it
[15:20] <yeats> MASbro: fat32 has some file transfer limitations you might be hitting against
[15:20] <TJ-> mikubuntu: If it is doing I/O then "sudo iotop" will show the busiest processes and their process IDs (PID), which you can use to do "sudo kill -TERM $PID"
[15:20] <mikubuntu> TJ-: ehhh, i gotta run out -- i'll see what it's done when i get back i guess -- ty, tj
[15:21] <MASbro> it has a limitation of 4gb. i never transfer anything 4gb or over.
[15:21] <yeats> MASbro: I would try what llutz suggests
[15:21] <Beldar> mikubuntu, Make sure any hidden trash folders...etc are not causing the usb to fill up completely.
[15:21] <MASbro> how to use sync mount option.
[15:26] <ShawnRisk> How come every process bar popup window (Update Cache, Install Driver - Openprinting and more) freezes in Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:27] <rustuptwist> TJ-: what's up
[15:27] <demian> ShawnRisk, dunno
[15:27] <ShawnRisk> demian: anything I can check?
[15:27] <demian> I'm newb
[15:28] <ShawnRisk> ok
[15:29] <demian> Anyone here with knowledge of xchat?
[15:29] <ShawnRisk> demian: just ask
[15:29] <demian> Or should I just try a new IRC client with a better support base :p
[15:29] <ShawnRisk> demian: did you try the xchat room?
[15:30] <demian> New channels are always popping up in separate windows. I want them attached to a single main window and visible in the channels tree bar by default..
[15:30] <demian> #xchat is hopelessly idle
[15:31] <ShawnRisk> oh
[15:31] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Are you done now?
[15:31] <demian> I kinda like the look and feel of Xchat so I prefer not to try out anything else..
[15:32] <ShawnRisk> I have used xchat years ago but not now so unsure
[15:33] <TJ-> demian: Settings > Preferences > Interface > Channel switcher > "Tabs or Windows" > "Open channels in:"
[15:34] <ShawnRisk> How come every process bar popup window (Update Cache, Install Driver - Openprinting and more) freezes in Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:34] <DF3D2> TJ-, i ran your script but it complains that grub-install hasnt specified a device
[15:34] <demian> TJ-, thanks I can't see why I missed it :p
[15:34] <TJ-> DF3D2: that's because you have to give it a device!!
[15:34] <DF3D2> TJ-, in your script ?
[15:35] <DF3D2> TJ-, I thought it chroot to the correct dir and that would work
[15:36] <TJ-> DF3D2: you need to understand the commands you're using. The reason I don't put device names into script examples is so you can't accidentally destroy your own system by blind copying. Read "man grub-install"
[15:36] <demian> Woohoo!
[15:36] <ShawnRisk> TJ-: any ideas on my question?
[15:36] <Wiz_KeeD> I can no longer boot into my ubuntu (even in recovery mode it stops at Loading Ramdisk) and the usb live image does not start anymore when clicking "Try ubuntu without installing", what can I do?
[15:37] <ShawnRisk> demian: that is nice TJ- was able to help you
[15:37] <TJ-> ShawnRisk: none
[15:38] <Wiz_KeeD> help?
[15:39] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: wait someone will answer
[15:39] <Wiz_KeeD> okok
[15:40] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: tried this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:40] <Wiz_KeeD> how could I launch it if i cannot access live-cd or the ubuntu installation?
[15:40] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  compaq laptop is up and running (edubuntu 12.04.03) thanks to you and Hit... for the assist last night!
[15:41] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: "does not start anymore" is not going to help us help you. You need to specify the exact steps and the exact responses you see. For boot issues, have you edited the boot entry at start-up and removed "quiet splash" and added "nomodeset debug" so you can reveal more information
[15:41] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Well done :)
[15:41] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, no but I have tried in recovery mode where there is no splash and it stops at Loading Ramdisk, I have specified this
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> live-cd just goes blank, and then I tried launching it in non-uefi mode and it failed loading the sound-card and the cd-rom (cd-rom isn't present since I have a hdd caddy installed)
[15:42] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: How about the live image, you can edit the options for that too. If both are failing doesn't that suggest a problem with the hardware itself? Have you made any BIOS/firmware configuration changes?
[15:42] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: read this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/129116/12-04-wont-boot-from-live-cd-or-usb
[15:42] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  i need to kinda do the same thing to my daughter HP. I need to know what I did wrong when I partitioned the drive(s) in windows disk manangement?
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, i have not, windows loads fine, no updates, just a forced power-out because windows was hanging
[15:43] <Wiz_KeeD> Also installed some drivers that let me access the ext4 drives of ubuntu in windows if that has any relevance
[15:43] <DF3D2> TJ-, im not getting it I have grub-install --target=/dev/device
[15:43] <DF3D2> but it's still trying to do the wrong device
[15:43] <Balzy> ehi there, can someone quickly explain me how linux display a simple text shell, without gui? does it still use an Xserver?
[15:44] <TJ-> rustuptwist: You created the maximum number of "Primary" partitions in the Master Boot Record (MBR). In future, first you should create an "Extended partition" in the MBR, and then create subsequent partitions as "Logical" (which means they are placed in the Extended partition, not the MBR - which only has 4 slots.
[15:44] <TJ-> DF3D2: "grub-install /dev/sdX" is all you need
[15:44] <ShawnRisk> Balzy: why not try ctrl+alt+f1?
[15:44] <DF3D2> TJ-, ok
[15:44] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: did you read that link?
[15:45] <Wiz_KeeD> yes, I have dual-boot
[15:45] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: If the live image won't start then something is amiss... possible data corruption if that's a USB device, but can't be if it is a DVD
[15:45] <DF3D2> TJ-, doesnt work it still is trying the wrong device
[15:46] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, yes, I also tried re-making the usb, same simptom
[15:46] <Wiz_KeeD> and it worked before without issue
[15:46] <TJ-> DF3D2: So specify the correct device. If you're aiming it at the USB device mounted at /media/usb/ then it's "grub-install /dev/sdc" isn't it?
[15:46] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: anything changed?
[15:47] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: Hmm, could the power-out have caused the BIOS/firmware settings to change? I've seen that happen some years ago, and a simple BIOS "load defaults" solved it
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Not that I can think of ShawnRisk, just the forced windows poweroff
[15:47] <DF3D2> TJ-, I did
[15:47] <DF3D2> TJ-, I edited the file but it still complains about /dev/sdd1
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't know what to say...
[15:47] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll try looking in bios idk
[15:47] <acovrig> Is it possible to connect host b->host a via a vpn and resolve thing backward through the tunnel (host a->host b) given host b can't be accessed directly from the internet?
[15:48] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: did you see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2163854
[15:48] <TJ-> DF3D2: I'm at a loss; you're obviously missing something
[15:49] <DF3D2> TJ-, no, it worked idk why it complained about /dev/sdd1 -- idk if your scrip worked but i ran it to mount everything then did the chroot and grub-install from the chroot and it seems to work now
[15:49] <DF3D2> TJ-, sorry I seem like a complete moron I know
[15:50] <Balzy> ShawnRisk I know how to get a tty, I'd like to know how linux display it :P
[15:51] <TJ-> DF3D2: It's called learning... you only do it by failing, and wondering why!
[15:51] <DF3D2> TJ-, yeah but i've been at this for like 24 hrs lol
[15:51] <llutz> acovrig: set a route on host-a to host-b. different way could be to use a reverse ssh-tunnel
[15:51] <DF3D2> TJ-, and I had it working easily and didn't back up the usb lol
[15:51] <TJ-> DF3D2: You think I got this knowledgeable without failing? For every time I get it right, I've done it wrong 5 times, and figured out what I did wrong!
[15:51] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, wicked man, it worked, both live-usb and ubuntu work now!
[15:52] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: Yay :)
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> many thank
[15:52] <Wiz_KeeD> s
[15:52]  * Wiz_KeeD huggles
[15:53] <able> This box here has a BIOS that won't boot gpt disks, but couldnt an MBR-installed grub be used to overcome this issue?
[15:53] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: what did you do?
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> reset bios settings...
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> I think it has to do with that, there's no other explanation after 5 reboots didn't wookr
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> yet after restore bios settings, it did
[15:53] <Wiz_KeeD> though I think I saw an error
[15:54] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: You may need to go through the BIOS settings and tune them again, there may have been some non-default settings
[15:55] <ShawnRisk> Balzy: does this help: http://www.ehow.com/facts_5571810_tty-stand-linux.html
[15:55] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: the obvious one is to select SATA AHCI mode if you've got Windows configured to use AHCI instead of IDE mode
[15:56] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: try to find error
[15:56] <rustuptwist> TJ-: so if I am in "Disk Management" in win7 and I want to make space/room to install Ubuntu what/how do I modify?
[15:57] <Wiz_KeeD> TJ-, it was set to ahci, but why would win boot but not ubuntu?
[15:57] <Wiz_KeeD> and it was set all along to ahci
[15:57] <Wiz_KeeD> ShawnRisk, where can I access the boot log?
[15:58] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: I was referring to AHCI just in the context of after the "load defaults" step. No point trying to guess now what setting was preventing the boot
[16:00] <Balzy> ShawnRisk thx, I'm reading it
[16:00] <ShawnRisk> Balzy: you're welcome
[16:01] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: try this in terminal if you get Ubuntu to load: dmesg | less
[16:01] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8669164
[16:02] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: also look at this: /var/log/boot.log
[16:04] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  would it be easier to boot the win laptop with the LIveCD and use GParted to partition the drive for the Ubuntu install
[16:04] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8669172 all looking good I guess
[16:04] <Wiz_KeeD> There's another thing that I really need help with that's more difficult
[16:05] <Octer> hi. someone in here who can help me with the new session in php 5.5`?
[16:05] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: go ahead
[16:05] <TJ-> rustuptwist: I'm not sure, if Windows can do it, there's no difference except for speed - if you're already in Windows its quicker to do
[16:05] <ShawnRisk> Octer: did you try in PHP room first?
[16:05] <Octer> #php is invite only
[16:06] <ssh-newbie> hello, I need help with my ssh known_hosts file, I need to see the most recents ip there but I do not know how to do it, and when I do ssh-keygen -h -F hostname it shows the help for ssh-keygen
[16:06] <ssh-newbie> somebody can helpme?
[16:06] <Wiz_KeeD> I have a Asus R501VB that had a Atheros Wireless network card, after some time it started failing and I sent it to warranty for it to be replaced.When it came back I noticed I got an error when installing the windows driver and also noticed poorer signal strength as well as lower download speeds (3/3.5 mb/s)
[16:06] <rustuptwist> TJ-:  the instructions via canonical say 'just shrink the volume' using disk managment but that is what I did yesterday and look what happened
[16:07] <bugs_bugger> hi there. i need some help with a hp psc 2510: i installed it via wifi with cups 1.7 but now, simple-scan cant find any scanner device and i cant set anything in the options
[16:07] <Wiz_KeeD> When I looked closely I realised: Network controller: Ralink corp. RT5390 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe
[16:07] <Wiz_KeeD> They swaped it with one from another manufacturer, and it's much slower, I have sent a complaint to Asus since I don't think this is normal to replace standard parts with what's lieing around, but my question is WHY is it limited to that speed when it says it can run in N mode too?
[16:08] <ShawnRisk> Octer: ask away
[16:08] <TJ-> rustuptwist: Yes, someone didn't think about the case where the MBR is already fully populated, because that is unusual in a Windows installation, or used to me
[16:08] <ShawnRisk> Octer: wait did you try WEB room?
[16:09] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: are you 100% sure this can run in N mode?
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> How can I benchmark, test, diagose my wireless card?
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> no I am not 100% sure
[16:09] <Wiz_KeeD> I just saw that somewhere I think
[16:09] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: If they did a shoddy job it makes me wonder if they reconnected the internal MIMO antennas correctly, which would surely lead to signal problems
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> You think that's the case? couldn't it be just that it's an inferior part?
[16:10] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: whether or not it can do 802.11n, 3.5 mbps is slow
[16:10] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: look at these tools: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> What are my options here? diagnose, test? at least has some proof it's worse and start yelling and threatning or something
[16:10] <llutz> ssh-newbie: "ssh-keygen -h -F hostname" is correct syntax and should give you the line and the key if it finds hostname, empty response if not
[16:10] <Wiz_KeeD> looking
[16:10] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: 802.11g with a strong signal can push 23Mbps on empty airwaves
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> pfff Jesus that's a lot
[16:11] <Beldar> Wiz_KeeD, You are not the only one with a slow speed with this card. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RT5390
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> the intial one pushed even 6/7
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> Beldar, also in windows as well!
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> With the proper drivers installed in windows it could push up to 4
[16:11] <Wiz_KeeD> but that's still bad...
[16:11] <TJ-> Wiz_KeeD: I said "empty airwaves". If there are other 2.4GHz devices interferring then you'll get much less throughput
[16:12] <ssh-newbie> llutz: thank you, but when I do that I get "ssh-keygen: illegal option --" and it shows me the options list
[16:12] <llutz> ssh-newbie: what is the exact command you use?
[16:12] <ssh-newbie> I must be doing something wrong
[16:12] <ShawnRisk> Wiz_KeeD: look here: http://itsfoss.com/speed-up-slow-wifi-connection-ubuntu/
[16:13] <schmock84_> Hi, got myself in some trouble when installing ubuntu next to win8 - now neither is working and I am too bad with PC stuff to fix this myself /- could anybody help me out pls?
[16:13] <ShawnRisk> How come every process bar popup window (Update Cache, Install Driver - Openprinting and more) freezes in Ubuntu 13.10?
[16:15] <schmock84_> reposting: Hi, got myself in some trouble when installing ubuntu next to win8 - now neither is working and I am too bad with PC stuff to fix this myself /- could anybody help me out pls?
[16:15] <Beldar> schmock84_, One OS can be a complex fix, two can make it twice as hard, you will need to give details to the channel
[16:16] <puppylinux2> beldar: hello
[16:16] <Wiz_KeeD> ShawnRisk, ok tried disabling ipv6
[16:16] <Wiz_KeeD> brb
[16:16] <ShawnRisk> schmock84_: what happens when you boot into Windows or Ubuntu?
[16:16] <schmock84_> Beldar, thanks for reaction. :)
[16:18] <puppylinux2> Beldar: hello
[16:18] <schmock84_> Beldar, I had win 8.1 preinstalled and turned off fast boot and secure boot and went for installation of ubuntu 13.10
[16:19] <ShawnRisk> here are errors on my problem: http://pastebin.com/kamfcgQ7
[16:19] <schmock84_> @Beldar, ShawnRisk: Grub2 did not load on reboot and I went into live ubuntu to run boot repair
[16:20] <schmock84_> @beldar, ShawnRisk: apparentlz by doing so, I killed my boot loader entirely and now I cannot boot into either WIN 8.1 nor Ubuntu 13.10
[16:20] <Beldar> schmock84_, I would address the channel at this point so the others realize I'm not actually helping, uefi is not my area of knowledge, and I generally link people to those who are if I can. For example the bootrepair kicks out a bootinfo summary post it here on the developers thread for focused help.
[16:21] <Wiz_KeeD> Pff did not work
[16:21] <Beldar> schmock84_, here is the thread. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[16:21] <ShawnRisk> back, sorry my connection died on me.  As for errors on my problem: http://pastebin.com/kamfcgQ7
[16:22] <schmock84_> @Beldar: ok, understood
[16:23] <Beldar> schmock84_, Cool, just a few here can do uefi diagnostics, just a heads up is all, that thread however has several focused keenly on this area.
[16:23] <schmock84_> Generally, is there a more dedicated channel to helping noobs like me ruining their szstems?
[16:23] <Alex89> !ciao
[16:23] <Alex89> !addon
[16:23] <schmock84_> @beldar: will certainly give it a shot right away
[16:24] <Beldar> Alex89, what do you need?
[16:24] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: did you see my issue?
[16:25] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, Yeah, nothing I recognize in order to advise is all.
[16:25] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: did you see my original question?
[16:27] <kenny1> achernya: hi
[16:27] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, I have read every post you have made, no idea what your problem is. ;)
[16:28] <kenny1> Dutn: hy man
[16:30] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, If I was in your sistuation, I would make another account in users to see if this happens there, and or in the guest account or a live cd to check if it may be the account you are using and caused by tweaking it.
[16:30] <Beldar> situation*
[16:30] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: okay
[16:31] <Beldar> ShawnRisk, The user app can add and remove new accounts with a gui and they can be another admin with sudo access or a limited account.
[16:33] <ShawnRisk> Beldar: I will try again later.
[16:33] <kenny1> Why are amd so horrible on linux?
[16:34] <bhkenny> Amd drivers suck on any distro
[16:34] <bhkenny> why?
[16:36] <Alex89> Ciao
[16:40] <puppylinux2> Beldar: hello
[16:41] <internet> can office documents be directly printed without having to use openoffice/libreoffice?
[16:44] <plibby2> Good evening. Im searching for some help installing ubuntu server 12.04.3 on a system with hardware RAID. Can someone help me?
[16:45] <DF3D2> what is the correct way to run a bash .sh script on boot with lightdm? I have tried setting up ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc and even /etc/lightdm.conf  session-setup-script
[16:45] <DF3D2> I want it to run when xorg is up
[16:46] <bugs_bugger> internet: you would have to pipe them through some programs that generate printable postscript from the openoffice XML format
[16:50] <jkhl11> hola
[16:53] <DF3D2> anyone?
[16:53] <DF3D2> why cant I seem to get a script to start on boot lol
[16:53] <DF3D2> err when xorg starts
[16:54] <plibby2> I've got some trouble installing ubuntu server. On which partition i have to install it if i use hardware raid? I get my 2 drives and a read-only RAIDraid1 entry.
[16:56] <jhutchin1> plibby2: If it's hardware raid, it should present the array as a single drive to the OS, so partitioning doesn't really matter.
[16:57] <jhutchin1> plibby2: Depending on what you're using the system for, partitioning will usually end up with you running out of space on one partition while another has plenty of room.
[16:57] <jhutchin1> plibby2: I recommend one partition + swap unless you know where you're data is going to accumulate.
[16:59] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: upstart/sys v init
[17:02] <plibby2> jhutchin1: I configured RAID with the Intel Rapid Storage Technology. I converted the HDDs (3tb) to GPT and configured the RAID 1. When installing i got asked, if i like to activate serial ATA-Configured devices. If i click yes, i can only use 800 GB of my drive. Clicking no offer me the whole space and the three options. 'sda', 'sdb' and 'md126 (read-only)...' . What am i doing wrong?
[17:02] <monoclithi> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU4NDE
[17:03] <semek> hello i have problem with conky infinity, how to make transparent background in unity ?
[17:06] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, it seems coplicated I just want to run one script when x starts
[17:07] <DF3D2> and none of the usual things seems to work
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: then may add an entry for it in rc.local
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: ahh when x starts
[17:07] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, I tried putting sh /path/script in rc.local
[17:07] <DF3D2> and in ~/.xsession
[17:07] <DF3D2> and ~/.xinit
[17:07] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: does the xserver need to be up?
[17:07] <DF3D2> and using lightdm
[17:07] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, yes it does
[17:08] <DF3D2> xorg must be running
[17:08] <Minnen> hello
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: then in lightdm.conf under [SeatDefaults] add display-setup-script=/path/to/some/script
[17:09] <Minnen> [question] anyone knows a command that outputs the user list and their respective permissions?
[17:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Any other method to diagnose wireless card?
[17:09] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, I did that, lightdm never starts
[17:09] <DF3D2> it makes it hang
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: then fork it
[17:09] <DF3D2> it says it starts in kernel msgs, but it never does
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> with &
[17:10] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, /path/script & ?
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: yup
[17:10] <DF3D2> let me try..
[17:10] <pvl1> lol still working on pxe boot
[17:10] <DF3D2> no
[17:10] <DF3D2> I gave up on that shit
[17:10] <pvl1> what ur language bud
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> !language | DF3D2
[17:10] <DF3D2> lol
[17:10] <pvl1> but what are you working on now
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[17:11] <DF3D2> just trying to get something to start with x
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> prog getting the mining app to start with x
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> prob*
[17:11] <DF3D2> yep
[17:11] <pvl1> mining as in *coin mining?
[17:12] <DF3D2> i need these to be automated
[17:12] <DF3D2> since im gonna have like 10 rigs
[17:12] <pvl1> are you using gpu's to mine?
[17:12] <pvl1> if so i recommend u keep X off
[17:12] <DF3D2> x must be on
[17:12] <DF3D2> or it won't work
[17:12] <pvl1> thats not true
[17:13] <pvl1> i mine without x
[17:13] <pvl1> just ssh in
[17:13] <DF3D2> on what ?
[17:13] <monoclithi> this channel is nothing more then NOISE
[17:13] <DF3D2> for amd cards x must be running
[17:13] <pvl1> anything linux can run ssh and screen
[17:13] <DF3D2> im alrdy using ssh and screen
[17:13] <DF3D2> cgminer doesnt run without x
[17:14] <hitsujiTMO> monoclithi: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[17:14] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, yeah that still doesn't work :-((((
[17:14] <pvl1> DF3D2: how do u know this
[17:14] <monoclithi> sorry wrong window
[17:14] <DF3D2> pvl1, because i've tried ?
[17:14] <pvl1> i just asked on #cgminer
[17:15] <DF3D2> are you using amd cards
[17:15] <DF3D2> yes or not
[17:15] <pvl1> no
[17:15] <DF3D2> k
[17:15] <DF3D2> like I said
[17:15] <DF3D2> for amd cards it must be running
[17:15] <DF3D2> or the driver doesn't work
[17:15] <FloodBot1> DF3D2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <pvl1> http://bitcoin-mining-headless.blogspot.com/
[17:15] <monoclithi> hitsujiTMO: you have a strange nick what does it stand for?
[17:15] <k1l> !ot | monoclithi
[17:16] <hitsujiTMO> =
[17:16] <DF3D2> pvl1, I know what is required for it to run
[17:16] <pvl1> DF3D2: i just asked on #cgminer and they saying u dont need X
[17:16] <pvl1> now
[17:16] <pvl1> if ur trying to overclock
[17:17] <pvl1> then yes dynamic overclocking requires Xserver to be running
[17:17] <DF3D2> right I am
[17:18] <DF3D2> hitsujiTMO, any ideas?
[17:18] <DF3D2> I like *need* this to work
[17:18] <DF3D2> forking it didn't help
[17:18] <pvl1> whats the error your getting
[17:18] <DF3D2> not getting one
[17:18] <DF3D2> lightdm says it will start but it never does
[17:18] <DF3D2> when I have a startup script setup
[17:19] <DF3D2> trying to run my cgminer startup script at boot
[17:19] <sh0t> hi guys after an update Ubuntu 13.10 is giving me problems. Now after i login gnome doesn't load anymore (and it's the same with awesome)
[17:19] <sh0t> only the mouse it shows
[17:19] <pvl1> well, do u have multiple sessions/de's/WM's u use? if not i recommend startx, with an xinitrc or what not
[17:19] <DF3D2> thats an idea
[17:19] <k1l> sh0t: see .xsession-errors
[17:19] <pvl1> DF3D2: is this just a mining rig? if so u dont need a session *AT ALL*
[17:19] <sh0t> ok k1l
[17:19] <DF3D2> yeah cause i tried xinitrc and it didn't work
[17:19] <DF3D2> pvl1, so how do I go about setting this up?
[17:19] <pvl1> DF3D2: just run xinit and amdcccle so you can run overdrive
[17:20] <k1l> sh0t: and make sure the video card driver moduls are build. so the linux-headers are installed
[17:20] <DF3D2> pvl1, cgminer sets my clocks
[17:20] <pvl1> DF3D2: then run just xinit so no window managers or anything loads up
[17:20] <zan> sd
[17:20] <pvl1> that would just slow down moning anyway
[17:20] <pvl1> *mining
[17:20] <luca> Why when I launch the ISO 14.04 I use QEMU and not VIRTUAL MACHINE as Nicholas Skaggs suggested to us?
[17:21] <DF3D2> pvl1, hmm okay where do I want to put "xinit" /etc/rc.local ?
[17:22] <DJones> luca: Probably best asking in the #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for it at the moment, people there are probably most likely to be able to help
[17:22] <morsnowski> 14.04 ?
[17:22] <pvl1> DF3D2: xinit is just the init for X, no config files needed. first see if that will load, then you can make a session script to load cgminer
[17:22] <DF3D2> pvl1, it loads
[17:22] <DF3D2> so I need to get xinit to run each time, and get rid of lightdm
[17:22] <DF3D2> without borking
[17:22] <DF3D2> x
[17:22] <plibby2> Creates the Intel Storage Technology a Software or a Hardware RAID?
[17:23] <pvl1> xinit = init X but put .xinitrc in ~ of whatever user will be mining/starting x
[17:23] <luca> DJones, thanks
[17:23] <DF3D2> pvl1, yeah problem is cgminer runs but it doesn't seem to actually do anything
[17:23] <pvl1> DF3D2: exec cgminer
[17:23] <DF3D2> I wonder why
[17:23] <pvl1> DF3D2: are you on a mining pool, did u connect to one
[17:23] <DF3D2> pvl1, I have a shell startup script im calling in ~/xinitrc
[17:24] <luca> morsnowski, yes it is a version not stable yet. I'd like to launch it on my old laptop
[17:24] <DF3D2> lol yes man I've got a config file and a startup scriot
[17:24] <pvl1> just making sure
[17:24] <hitsujiTMO> DF3D2: ~/.xinitrc not ~/xinitrc
[17:24] <sh0t> k1l, how do i check that? and also i'd like to stress that the login form is provided to me on an X session but when it accepts the credentials it hangs somehow on a black screen where only the mous it showed. Anyway .xsession.errors says something like: xio: FATAL Io ERROR 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0" after 4073 requests (4073 known processed) with 0 events remainig.
[17:24] <DF3D2> but cgminer seems to hang when I do it this way
[17:24] <morsnowski> oh ok
[17:24] <DF3D2> yeah ~/.xinitrc
[17:24] <DF3D2> its working -- but cgminer isnt
[17:24] <pvl1> either way, how long have u run cgminer before saying it dont work
[17:24] <DF3D2> just hangs
[17:24] <pvl1> DF3D2: can we take this off the support channel and PM
[17:25] <DF3D2> sure
[17:27] <hermacet> Hello, i'm kind of new with linux so forgive me if its a stupid question. I just installed Xubuntu, but is there any native support for some simple animations in XFCE or is it to lightweight for such?
[17:30] <mikubuntu> wonder why the copy process rejected these files http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6821404/
[17:31] <skinux> This may be dumb, but are there actually log files which store personal financial information (other than those of financial software)?
[17:31] <WebbyIT> 'm trying to use valgrind function profiler inside Ubuntu SDK but when I start the app I receive this error:
[17:31] <WebbyIT> Error: "/usr/bin/valgrind" could not be started: No private key file given.
[17:31] <WebbyIT> What can I do?
[17:32] <mikubuntu> also, wonder why some of these lib files are in my desktop dir http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6821404/
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> mikubuntu: what are you trying to copy to?
[17:33] <mikubuntu> hitsujiTMO: to a 16gb usb
[17:34] <Pici> mikubuntu: ntfs and fat32 do not allow colons in filenames
[17:34] <mikubuntu> hitsujiTMO: how do i view the properties of the usb now? to know how full it is, i mean.
[17:34] <hitsujiTMO> mikedevita: if its ntfs or fat32 then the file system doesn't support names with : or symlinks
[17:34] <mikubuntu> thx Pici
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> mikubuntu: df -h
[17:36] <mikubuntu> hitsujiTMO: not sure i understand -- where is the reference to the usb?
[17:36] <sh0t> guys i can't execute gnome anymore
[17:36] <sh0t> i login and then X hangs showing me only the mouse on a black screen
[17:36] <HALanon9000> what ever happened to the android execution environment for Ubuntu. is it dead?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> Mike9863: it will say the path to the usb under "mounted on"
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> mikubuntu: ^
[17:37] <mikubuntu> hitsujiTMO: never mind, i see :P
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t what did you do?
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: play with drivers? ccsm? kernel?
[17:38] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, after an update Ubuntu 13.10
[17:38] <sh0t> gave me this thing
[17:38] <sh0t> (i suspect it also fucked my wifi up)
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: can you get a terminal with: ctrl + alt + t?
[17:38] <sh0t> yes i can
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dmesg | pastebinit
[17:39] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, as i said i have no internet either at the moment on that pc
[17:39] <sh0t> i mean i could go via eth but then how do i give u the link
[17:39] <sh0t> ?
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: type it. its like 6/7 numbers
[17:40] <sh0t> ok
[17:40] <sh0t> so give me 2/3 minutes
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> kk
[17:45] <sh0t> ok hitsujiTMO dmesg:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821485  .xsession.errors: http://paste.ubuntu .com/6821489    X.org.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821496
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: nouveau E[  DEVICE][0000:01:00.0] unknown chipset, 0x108120a1 found it
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: are you using a ppa?
[17:49] <sh0t> i don't know what ppa is
[17:50] <Pricey> !ppa
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: is this an optimus laptop or which?
[17:50] <sh0t> on the terminal if i run startx /usr/bin/awesome :2 and press ctrl+c some times it then starts awesome -...crazy
[17:51] <sh0t> an optimus laptop?
[17:51] <sh0t> no it an hp laptop
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: do you have a hybrid nvidia gpu?
[17:51] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO,  i have an nvidia geforce
[17:52] <sh0t> !ppa_purge
[17:52] <sh0t> !ppa-purge
[17:54] <newuser_> is this rooting guide good enough for my phone ?
[17:54] <newuser_> http://www.droidsimplified.com/root-micromax-a25/
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: lspci | pastebinit && dpkg --get-selections | pastebinit
[17:54] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | newuser_
[17:54] <newuser_> ohh, sorry
[17:56] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821570 , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821571
[17:56] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what version of ubuntu?
[17:57] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, 13.10
[17:57] <sh0t> anyway if i run startx /usr/bin/gnome-session and then i press 3/4 times ctrl+c it starts a session of gnome i don't know if this helps
[17:58] <sh0t> even if run startx
[17:58] <sh0t> from root
[17:58] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[17:58] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ok
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/
[17:59] <sh0t> without sudo?
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: yup, without sudo
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: setsid unity
[18:00] <sh0t> wait hitsujiTMO
[18:00] <sh0t> the dconf thing is not working
[18:00] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: what error?
[18:00] <sh0t> id like to pastebinit it
[18:00] <sh0t> but i can't
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ | pastebinit
[18:01] <sh0t> yeah it doesn't work
[18:01] <sh0t> it doesn't pipe the processes
[18:01] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ 2>&1 | pastebinit
[18:03] <sh0t> ok hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821601
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t you are running this in the windowed terminal opened with ctrl + alt + t    right?
[18:04] <jhutchin1> sh0t: See where it says "starting, but not ending, with /"?
[18:04] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, yes i am.
[18:04] <jhutchin1> sh0t: Does /org/compiz/ exist?
[18:04] <sh0t> jhutchin1, i am checking
[18:05] <sh0t> jhutchin1, there isn't even /org
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: you are using unity right?
[18:05] <halfbeing> my webcam video is black when i use skype or cheese, and the light doesn't come on on the camera, but it works when i use guvcview. i used to get this problem intermittently and logging out of my gui session and logging back in again cured it, but now not even rebooting gets the video working again. can anyone help?
[18:06] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, yes i was
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> shotits /org/ not /org
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: /org/ not /org
[18:06] <hitsujiTMO> or /org/compiz/ not /org/compiz
[18:07] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, there is not /org in my filesystem
[18:07] <benny_> Did anybody tested powershell for linux?
[18:08] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: its not a directory in the file system. its in dconf
[18:09] <sh0t> ahhhhhhhhhh u mean in the dconf command before
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> benny_: you mean pash?
[18:10] <benny_> @hitsujiTMO: yes
[18:10] <sh0t> ok here is the output of dconf reset -f /org/compiz 2>&1 | pastebinit :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821638
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ # so yes /org/compiz/ not /org/compiz/
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ # so yes /org/compiz/ not /org/compiz
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: you forgot the trailing /
[18:11] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, fuck! sorry
[18:11] <hitsujiTMO> !language | sh0t :P
[18:12] <sh0t> ok here is the output of dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ 2>&1 | pastebinit :  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821646
[18:12] <sh0t> sorry guys for my language
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf list /org/ | pastebinit
[18:13] <sh0t> it says gnome/ and compiz/
[18:14] <Minnen> [question] anyone has a recommended site where i can read about terminal commands?
[18:15] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, it says: gnome/ and also compiz/
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: sorry, was on phone
[18:17] <Luhg> Hello
[18:17] <sh0t> it's ok hitsujiTMO no problem
[18:17] <sh0t> i mean thanks for the help
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf list /org/compiz/ | pastebinit
[18:18] <jhutchin1> Minnen: What do you want to control?
[18:18] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, it says profiles/
[18:19] <Minnen> i just want to read about the commands, permissions, etc.
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dconf list /org/compiz/profiles/ | pastebinit
[18:20] <jhutchin1> Minnen: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html
[18:20] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, so after profiles there is Default/
[18:20] <sh0t> and after DEfault/ there is a plugin-with-set-keys
[18:20] <sh0t> without trailing '/'
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: ok. relog
[18:20] <Minnen> jhutchin1 > thanks!
[18:21] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, relog?
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: logout and log back in again
[18:21] <sh0t> man how can I be so idiot
[18:21] <sh0t> ok
[18:21] <sh0t> do u mean i logout and in in the terminal
[18:22] <sh0t> riht?
[18:22] <irv> howdy, i'm running 12.04 server and i want to install murmur1.2.4 which is in the "trusty" repo. is this possible to just add that repo for the one package/prereqs?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: no. logout of your x session. or reboot even
[18:22] <sh0t> o ki reboot
[18:22] <irv> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/mumble is the package
[18:22] <sh0t> i don't have a workign x session
[18:22] <irv> o wait that's the client D:
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> irv why do you want to install a beta server?
[18:24] <jhutchins> irv: Mixing releases can cause a lot of problems, not usually recommended.
[18:24] <zykotick9> irv: others may disagree, but IMO, mixing repos is a BAD idea - and will probably lead to tears...
[18:25] <sh0t> ok hitsujiTMO i rebooted
[18:25] <monoclithi> you mean no ppas?
[18:25] <sh0t> now i have the login screen
[18:25] <sh0t> it also says the wifi doen't work but that's another issue
[18:26] <compaq|armada> Hey there, I have one question regarding live CD. I have it running on an old PC using an usb stick and an old IDE drive i am able to access. Its amazing, a real treasure whats on it. I only have one problem, I just cant find the harddrive from terminal. I need access because my picturemap is unaccessable (i need to do a CHMOD 777). Can someone shed some light on this problem?
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: are you able to login?
[18:27] <sh0t> i didn't try yet but since nothing changed i guess not
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: please try
[18:27] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, jsut did
[18:27] <sh0t> i doesn't work
[18:27] <sh0t> *it
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: same black screen?
[18:27] <sh0t> yes
[18:27] <sh0t> do u think reinstalling gnome could be something useful?
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: can you try and log into the guest or is that enabled? does the same issue occur with the guest if it is enabled?
[18:30] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, coudln't connect to session bus: unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11
[18:30] <jhutchins> Possibly add a new user.
[18:30] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, the guest works!
[18:30] <sh0t> maybe it's something related do permissions
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: some its your user thats messed up.
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: log back into your user
[18:30] <jhutchins> sh0t: This sometimes happens if you run GUI apps as root.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: permissions would explain the oddities of the dconf errors
[18:31] <jhutchins> sh0t: chown -R <user>:<user> /home/<user> (as root or with sudo)
[18:31] <sh0t> jhutchins, it could be because i was also messing around with 2 wm at the same time (one of them executed by root)
[18:31] <compaq|armada> Hey there, I have one question regarding live CD. I have it running on an old PC using an usb stick and an old IDE drive i am able to access. Its amazing, a real treasure whats on it. I only have one problem, I just cant find the harddrive from terminal. I need access because my picturemap is unaccessable (i need to do a CHMOD 777). Can someone shed some light on this problem?
[18:32] <morsnowski> compaq|armada: ls /media/
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> compaq|armada: lsblk
[18:33] <jhutchins> compaq|armada: You can access it but you can't find it?  WHat's a picturemap?
[18:33] <compaq|armada> Hi there
[18:34] <compaq|armada> I will take a look.
[18:34] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, jhutchins THANKS!
[18:34] <sh0t> I now have to solve this thing with the wifi
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: lspci -knn | pastebinit
[18:36] <sh0t> wait i will come chat from the other pc
[18:36] <compaq|armada> morsnowski: in ls /media/ there only is the map cdrom and ubuntu
[18:37] <compaq|armada> wow
[18:37] <compaq|armada> wait you guys!
[18:37] <compaq|armada> I found it
[18:37] <compaq|armada> lsblk helped!
[18:37] <FloodBot1> compaq|armada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <compaq|armada> thanks morsnowski
[18:38] <compaq|armada> thanks hitsujiTMO
[18:38] <compaq|armada> thanks jhutchins
[18:38] <jhutchins> Not sure what I contributed, but you're welcome.
[18:38] <whiskers75> !help
[18:38] <whiskers75> !flood
[18:39] <whiskers75> !pastebinit
[18:39] <sh0t> ok jhutchins :   sudo lspci -knn|pastebinit   ==> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821822/
[18:40] <an0n432O> hi
[18:41] <tpw_rules> anybody know of anything like windows 7's math input panel? i've been hunting around but can't really get anything working
[18:41] <an0n432O> math input?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: rfkill list | pastebinit
[18:42] <iq> Hi
[18:42] <an0n432O> hi
[18:42] <compaq|armada> hi
[18:42] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6821847/
[18:42] <tpw_rules> an0n432O: it recognizes handwritten math equations
[18:42] <jhutchins> !RT3290
[18:43] <an0n432O> ok
[18:43] <an0n432O> no i dont sorry
[18:43] <iq> I've been googling for a while, trying to figure out how to disable an application from autostart. I'm using Ubuntu 12 LTS. The application I want to disable does not show up in "Startup Applications"
[18:43] <sh0t> jhutchins, that's the model of my wifi i gues it's a driver problem
[18:43] <sh0t> right?
[18:43] <morsnowski> !die
[18:43] <jhutchins> !firmware
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: dmesg | grep 103c:18ec | pastebinit
[18:43] <jhutchins> ShooterMG: rt2800pci driver, firmware required.
[18:44] <jhutchins> ubottu used to be a lot better, I guess we need to work on him.
[18:45] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, nothing it's showed by grep
[18:46] <iq> Any help to disable an application from auto start?
[18:46] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. does ubuntu have a project such as owncloud or the like to help users build their own cloud server?
[18:46] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2104129 maybe this is for me?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: did it work for you before, or are you just setting it up now?
[18:47] <sh0t> before it was working (before the update)
[18:47] <jhutchins> iqwhat is the application?
[18:47] <iq> jhutchins: Its called Viber.
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: try rebuilding the driver: source is here if you don't have it already http://www.mediatek.com/_en/07_downloads/01_windows.php?sn=501
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: its the RT3290 PCIe one obviously
[18:49] <sh0t> yeah sure thanks
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> iq: check in startup-applications
[18:50] <jhutchins> iq: How did you install it?
[18:51] <iq> I downloaded the .deb file from viber.com
[18:51] <VlanX> In there anything for linux in gereral that works like autocad?
[18:51] <jhutchins> iq: You're going to have to find out from them how they're starting it.
[18:51] <sh0t> jhutchins, i get a bz2 file if decompress it i geta "POSIX tar archive" how do i do with that?
[18:52] <jhutchins> sh0t: bunzip
[18:52] <bekks> tar xvJf file.tar.bz2
[18:52] <solsTiCe> hi. why is there 2 entries in uefi booot menu for  ubuntu ? one called Ubuntu with a capital letter and one without any ? the first on does nothing and the second one gives you grub menu
[18:52] <jhutchins> sh0t: I'm not sure why the stock module wouldn't work, it's supported.
[18:52] <mikubuntu> it is with a bit of sadness that i will shortly be bidding this so-far trusty gateway laptop a fond adieu, as all my files have now been extracted, and this box will soon be possessed by the spirit of ubuntu studio, and passed into the care of another. i wish nothing but the best for the box and it's new owner, whomsoever that shall turn out to be.
[18:52] <bekks> tar xvjf file.tar.bz2  --- small caps j.
[18:52] <jhutchins> sh0t: I think it's more likely a problem with the firmware.
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> VlanX: http://www.ribbonsoft.com/en/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/pythoncad/
[18:53] <solsTiCe> I had no problem booting a dvd whih was in uefi boot menu ut to boot a usb key it was weird. I had to switch to legacy boot rom ?
[18:53] <neoromantique> http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/14/0126/h_1390762433_2091423_e16269ec52.png
[18:53] <sh0t> yeah becks it's not a tar.bz2
[18:53] <neoromantique> How do I connect it correctly?
[18:54] <mikubuntu> wait a minute ... can i use unet to install the new os right on this box? or does it have to be first copied to a stick?
[18:54] <bekks> sh0t: Then what is it, exactly?
[18:54] <sh0t> ok i renamed it in *.tar.bz2
[18:54] <bekks> sh0t: do not rename it.
[18:54] <bekks> sh0t: Renaming will not change the filetype or content. Renaming is pointless, mostly.
[18:54] <sh0t> yeah bekks i can now decompress as u said it
[18:55] <sh0t> anyway
[18:55] <bekks> sh0t: I never said that.
[18:55] <daftykins> mikubuntu: i hope you zero'd the disk
[18:55] <VlanX> hitsujiTMO: thanks!
 tar xvjf file.tar.bz2  --- small caps j.
[18:55] <bekks> sh0t: I told you the command to unpack a bzip2 compressed tar archive in one step.
[18:55] <mikubuntu> daftykins: what you mean -- boot and nuke?
[18:55] <sh0t> ok ok sorry i misunderstood in any case i think i have to decompress this thing
[18:55] <sh0t> to get itworking
[18:55] <bekks> sh0t: After you said, it isnt a tar archive, obviously that command does not apply anymore :)
[18:56] <bekks> sh0t: So which file do you actually have then?
[18:56] <daftykins> mikubuntu: zero fill it so whoever you're giving it to can't recover your data
[18:56] <sas> [ll;o
[18:56] <sas> lsklvrc;c'xc'--0o
[18:56] <sas> ]]]
[18:56] <sas> ==
[18:56] <mikubuntu> daftykins: darik's boot and nuke does that, doesn't it?
[18:57] <gmachine_24> aka dban
[18:57] <mikubuntu> daftykins: is there another way?
[18:57] <redmaniac> hello, everyone
[18:57] <daftykins> mikubuntu: never used it, i just use dd under Linux
[18:57] <sas> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\`
[18:58] <sh0t> bekks, the one i get here http://www.mediatek.com/_en/07_downloads/01-1_windowsDetail.php?sn=5033
[18:58] <gmachine_24> sas wtf?
[18:58] <mikubuntu> daftykins: its going to mom or sis for now, and i don't have any particular secrets on it that i can recall ... lol
[18:58] <bekks> sh0t: Whatever that may be. I wont download it, not even just to check.
[18:58] <bekks> sh0t: Provide the name of the file you downloaded please.
[18:58] <daftykins> mikubuntu: fair enough
[18:59] <Guest6041> Guys, I have just installed Lubuntu 13.10 to an old desktop, and no matter and have installed flashplayer and java from the software center. I can't watch YouTube or Wimp.com videos very good. It is just moving blocks of color. I have tried a lot of things, even the restricted extras. How about I remove the firewall? How do I do that for a try?
[18:59] <sh0t> bekks, no worries i think i might get trough it by yself otherwise i'll ask with more info for you guys
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> Guest6041: whats the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "model name"
[19:00] <gmachine_24> Guest6041, I don't think a firewall or lack of one is th eproblem
[19:00] <bekks> sh0t: Just one more information: technically, there is no single "Linux" to be downloaded. "Linux" ist the kernel used in every "linux distribution".
[19:00] <Guest6041> Yes, this is me from last night, hitsujiTMO. Hang on.
[19:00] <bekks> sh0t: If you want to try Ubuntu, get your download from www.ubuntu.com
[19:01] <sh0t> bekks, that's the link for the driver/firmware
[19:01] <bekks> sh0t: For which driver/firmware for what exactly?
[19:01] <compaq|armada> lsblk helped!ls
[19:01] <compaq|armada> clear
[19:01] <sh0t> RT3290
[19:01] <compaq|armada> wow haha
[19:01] <compaq|armada> whoops wrong terminal
[19:01] <Linoron> hi all, I have tried to make UEFI-bootable Live USB sticks for both Ubuntu and LinuxMint, but cannot seem to get any of them WRITEABLE and BOOTable in UEFI (secureboot is disabled). This USB live stick I use now, is read-only even if I made it by specifying 1GB of space for documents etc... Using ubuntu=startup-disk=creator or the gtk version, available from the default repositories.
[19:02] <bekks> sh0t: Stop downloading, and please read this complete post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/366610/wifi-not-working-in-ubuntu-13-10-with-ralink-rt3290
[19:03] <Guest6041> Here's model name:     Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz
[19:03] <Guest6041> How about swappiness?
[19:04] <sh0t> yeah bekks that's where i am comign from
[19:04] <bekks> Guest6041: NEither your firewall not swappiness will create color blocks in videos.
[19:04] <Guest6041> oh, what do you think does that?
[19:04] <Guest6041> HOw about settings in Adobe Flash Player?
[19:05] <bekks> Guest6041: which flash plugin version do you use?
[19:05] <Guest6041> the one in the software for Lubuntu  it's not quite 12... It's 11 something
[19:05] <bekks> sh0t: And did you try all the solutions offered there?
[19:05] <sh0t> yeah i am doing it now :)
[19:05] <bekks> Guest6041: about:plugins will tell you exactly.
[19:06] <Guest6041> ohhh what should that tell me?
[19:06] <Guest6041> what's missing and needed   o.k.
[19:06] <bekks> Guest6041: Put that into the URL field in your browser and tell us. :)
[19:06] <Guest6041> o.k. hang on
[19:08] <olabaz> hey, my internet keeps disconnecting and it only happens when I boot ubuntu on this computer any ideas?
[19:08] <whoever> hi all, is there a way to speed apps up in wine ? safari(in wine ) takes about 15 minstes to load a page where nativly i can load a page in seconds
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> Guest6041: the most you can do is: right click on a flash video -> settings      untick the enable hardware accel
[19:09] <bekks> whoever: most likely, no.
[19:10] <gmachine_24> olabaz, please give more information. as in what are you running? what version of Ubuntu? what have you tried?
[19:10] <gmachine_24> olabaz, your request is vague
[19:11] <whoever> bekks: thaught so, but wasn't sure if some one invented a way  its seems to generally be faster to just make a vm and run in  a vm as apossed to wine
[19:11]  * whoever thinks by th time the page loads in safari he could had written the page 3 times over
[19:12] <Beldar> whoever, why bother with safari in linux?
[19:12] <olabaz> gmachine_24: I'm running 12.04. I tried changing my local IP i've tried using nethogs but everything seems fine
[19:13] <Linoron> hi all, I have tried to make UEFI-bootable Live USB sticks for both Ubuntu and LinuxMint, but cannot seem to get any of them WRITEABLE and BOOTable in UEFI (secureboot is disabled). This USB live stick I use now, is read-only even if I made it by specifying 1GB of space for documents etc... Using ubuntu=startup-disk=creator or the gtk version, available from the default repositories.
[19:13] <olabaz> gmachine_24: I can be using the internet fine and then all of a sudden it'll drop and nothing will load and then it'll come back up again
[19:13] <gmachine_24> olabaz, we still need more information. is it wireless? wired? what have you tried?
[19:13] <olabaz> gmachine_24: It is wireless. I tried restarting router and modem but it's still happening
[19:14] <Guest6041> guys, I have to go       sorry   thanks anyway   I'll be back again later probably.
[19:15] <olabaz> gmachine_24: I am also connected to the wifi on my phone and while it's down on the computer it's working on my phone
[19:16] <gmachine_24> olabaz, is this a new problem? were you able to connect before with this machine using ubuntu/linux? or is it a fresh install.
[19:17] <olabaz> it's a pretty recent install
[19:17] <gmachine_24> olabaz, but did it work before?
[19:18] <olabaz> gmachine_24: not sure because I only started using ubuntu seriously for about a week and i've had the issue since
[19:18] <gmachine_24> so, in your experience, has it ever worked on this machine?
[19:18] <gmachine_24> yes or no
[19:19] <olabaz> gmachine_24: no
[19:19] <gmachine_24> see, was that so difficult?
[19:20] <olabaz> gmachine_24: I got disconnected, sorry
[19:20] <gmachine_24> haha funny. ok so what happens when you do an $iwconfig
[19:22] <olabaz> gmachine_24: let me paste
[19:22] <gmachine_24> olabaz, paste it in pastebin.ubuntu.com, right?
[19:22] <olabaz> yes
[19:23] <olabaz> gmachine_24: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6822074/
[19:24] <ericP> if i installed enterprise architect under wine $(wine Downloads/easetup.exe), how do i know what program to run once the exe is installed?
[19:25] <Beldar> Linoron, read only, is a bit of a confusing at least to me variable. Does the usb have more than one partition and is it a flash drive?
[19:25] <ericP> i imagine it installed something in some virtual drive, but i have no idea what the name is or how to address it from the unix command line, as in $(wine ???)
[19:26] <Linoron> Beldar: I used the startup disk creator tool and let it reformat the drive and create it as default live usb stick, no extra partitions or anything
[19:27] <Linoron> Beldar: it asked me how much spacde I wanted for files, I increased the default setting, and therefore I was expecting to get a writeable sstick
[19:28] <Beldar> Linoron, Hmm, it should format as an fat32, not sure why you think it is read only.
[19:29] <Beldar> Linoron, So in other words the startup disk creator tool refuses to write to the stick?
[19:29] <Linoron> Beldar: when I reboot from the same stick, none of the environment changes I make to Ubuntu has been saved...
[19:30] <Beldar> Linoron, You have to have it persistent to have it save.
[19:30] <Linoron> I have to turn on the firewall again, set the wifi password again, etc. on each reboot, does not keep anything I do between boots
[19:30] <Linoron> Beldar: so is there a default setting that is set to NOT be persistent?
[19:31] <Linoron> how do I do that?
[19:31] <Beldar> Linoron, Yes the default does not setup persistent in most usb loaders.
[19:31] <Beldar> Linoron, Been awhile since I used that app but I beleieve it is right on that gui you use to load the usb.
[19:32] <Beldar> believe*
[19:32] <harrisr> how can i change mac adress
[19:32] <Linoron> Beldar: my goodness, and where can that be changed, or do I have to re-make the usb?
[19:33] <gmachine_24> olabaz, what about when you do $lspci | grep -i wireless
[19:33] <olabaz> gmachine_24: i don't get anything
[19:33] <Beldar> Linoron, Be sure to make the persistent big enough, and realize it is not cleanable and will fill up after awhile. If you have room for a second partition you can make it a persistent.
[19:36] <OerHeks> harrisr, open networkmanager, edit your  wired connection > add mac to cloned mac adress
[19:36] <harrisr> i am on wireless
[19:36] <OerHeks> harrisr, oh, same thing, did you open networkmanager to find out?
[19:36] <Linoron> Beldar: I am quite sure that the place where I specify the size to keep documents and settings is the same as making it persistent, which is what I have done. No other settings in that window...
[19:36] <gmachine_24> olabaz, what about just lspci, post that in pastebin
[19:36] <gmachine_24> $lspci
[19:36] <olabaz> gmachine_24: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6822161/
[19:36] <harrisr> OerHeks, \
[19:36] <harrisr> what do you mean
[19:37] <Jordan_U> Linoron: I highly recommend a normal installation to a USB drive over a "persistant liveusb".
[19:37] <harrisr> OerHeks, i want to change my mac adress so i can max out dropbox referalls
[19:37] <harrisr> what is the easiest way
[19:37] <Beldar> Linoron, Kind of a confusing description "the place where I specify the size to keep documents and settings" you would have used persistent named persistent if it is persistent. If this is another partition it is not persistent unless setup as.
[19:38] <Linoron> Beldar: that is the only option in the startup disk creator window...
[19:38] <OerHeks> harrisr, as i told you, edit your network connection, and add it
[19:39] <Beldar> Linoron, I have rarely used that app, and happen to be in windows at the moment so can't really be any more specific. .
[19:39] <OerHeks> harrisr, and please do NOT ask me to get more dropbox refferals,.
[19:40] <gmachine_24> olabaz, I don't suppose you know what kind of chipset the wireless is using?
[19:40] <Linoron> Jordan_U: to do a normal installation to a usb stick, can that be done to a 4gb stick, or is that too small? Does such an installation also require normal partitioning, swap partition, etc.?
[19:40] <harrisr> OerHeks,  i typed the mac adrees in the clone why is the save button greyed out
[19:40] <gmachine_24> olabaz, it doesn't appear in those lists
[19:40] <olabaz> gmachine_24: Realtek RTL8187
[19:40] <leblaaanc> if i change my hostname via the hostname and /etc/hostname what else do I need to do for that to "propagate" throughout my local network?
[19:40] <OerHeks> harrisr, maybe stop networking before editting ?
[19:41] <leblaaanc> i tried service networking restart
[19:41] <harrisr> how do i do that
[19:41] <Linoron> Beldar: ok
[19:42] <MoleMan> Could somebody provide instructions / a basic how-to for compiling SSH Server 6.2 for Ubuntu server 12.04, or even better provide a link to pre-compiled version please?
[19:42] <Jordan_U> Linoron: 4 GiB will be tight on space, but should fit with some room left over (the installer will warn you if you don't have enough space). Swap is no more or less needed than with a persistant USB "install". If you don't need to hibernate you'll probably do fine without it.
[19:43] <addicted> $(AR) -x $(STFL_STATIC_LIB)
[19:43] <Jordan_U> MoleMan: What is your end goal?
[19:43] <OerHeks> MoleMan, saucy has 6.2, next trusty 6.4
[19:43] <Beldar> Linoron, I am looking at a picture of the app, the persistent is the stored in reserved extra space, it has a slider, this is what you mean you set up correct?
[19:45] <Linoron> Beldar: got a url to that image?
[19:45] <MoleMan> Jordan_U: I want the multiple required auth methods for TOTP and SSH keys
[19:45] <gmachine_24> olabaz, if you know what version of the rtl8187 you have there are some linux drivers posted by realtek here http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=1&PFid=1&Level=6&Conn=5&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#RTL8185L
[19:46] <Linoron> Beldar: yes, that slider...
[19:46] <olabaz> gmachine_24: yes I just downloaded one of them but I can't compile it
[19:46] <konnor> hello anyone know a app i can use to use my old laptop as a wifi repeater
[19:46] <konnor> ?
[19:46] <pers3us> konnor: I don't think thats possible
[19:46] <gmachine_24> olabaz, ok. I gave you the wrong link anyway....... you got one for the rtl8187 right?
[19:46] <Beldar> Linoron, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  notice the discard button I assume this means clean that space when turned off, I am also assuming this is a persistent option, I have never really used this tool.
[19:46] <Linoron> Beldar: that is the one I chose and set to use 1gb, which I have got, but it does not keep the settings data there more than one siession at a time. When restarting, everything is back to default...
[19:47] <olabaz> gmachine_24: yeah it's there if you scroll down here is my error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6822208/
[19:47] <omega14> How do I boot from external hard drive
[19:47] <Paddy_NI> Is there anything available for Ubuntu like Cerbere? https://launchpad.net/cerbere
[19:47] <Jordan_U> konnor: Does your laptop have two wireless cards?
[19:48] <omega14> How do I boot from external hard drive in grub
[19:48] <Paddy_NI> Cerbere is a sort of watchdog designed for Pantheon. It monitors a predefined list of processes (configurable through dconf) and relaunches them if they end. This is helpful to keep the panel, dock, and wallpaper running, even if they crash or are killed by another process.
[19:48] <gmachine_24> olabaz, that stuff is above my pay grade. perhaps another intrepid chat room person can tell you why it will not compile
[19:49] <olabaz> gmachine_24: ok thanks for the help!
[19:49] <MoleMan> OerHeks: server 12.04 only has openSSH server 5.9 ? I need 6.2 for the 'AuthenticationMethods ' option
[19:49] <olabaz> hey, I cannot compile these drivers for my wireless card I get these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6822208/ any ideas?
[19:49] <gmachine_24> olabaz, you said this wireless connection works on windows, right? so you know the wireless hardware is good........??
[19:49] <olabaz> gmachine_24:  yeah
[19:49] <gmachine_24> olabaz, ok. good to know.
[19:50] <OerHeks> MoleMan, upgrade to sausy then, and you will have no dependencie problems
[19:50] <Beldar> Linoron, 1 gig is rather small I would use the max allowed, and make sure you do not have the discard on shutdown ticked, If you do not have more space to make a persistent partition it seems a loading the usb again with a larger recovery and no discard is needed
[19:50] <harrisr> OerHeks,  how does dropbox know if it is the same computer
[19:51] <MoleMan> OerHeks: yeah, this was the issue I didn't want to have to upgrade my whole server, unless there is a relatively easy way to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 and keep most stuff intact?
[19:51] <OerHeks> harrisr, please stop questions how to get more refferals on dropbox
[19:51] <gmachine_24> olabaz, I did read somewhere - but this was a post from a few years ago - that someone had success when they emailed realtek and god a driver that was not available on the Web site.
[19:51] <gmachine_24> *got
[19:51] <gmachine_24> sorry
[19:51] <Linoron> Beldar: the discard on shutdown option is a radio button, not a tick box, so when using the slider, it is automatically deselected...
[19:52] <gmachine_24> olabaz, got a driver as in realtek emailed them back
[19:52] <olabaz> gmachine_24: Yeah, I'll try that if this doesn't work
[19:52] <norad> hey have a quastion for you guys how come you cant install vlc master branch ppa on ubuntu 12.04 when i do a dist upgrade it deletes the xorg display
[19:52] <pers3us> olabaz: Any particular reason it didn't compile?
[19:53] <olabaz> pers3us: I have these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6822208/
[19:53] <pers3us> olabaz: and the driver isn't avialable via jockey?
[19:53] <OerHeks> MoleMan, maybe you can build it yourself > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh  but there can be dependencie problems, so upgrade is the best way to get 6.2
[19:53] <olabaz> pers3us: didn't try jockey
[19:54] <MoleMan> OerHeks: yeah, someone's just given me the info to compile myself in #ubuntu-server but I suppose if I could easily upgrade that would be the better option
[19:54] <gmachine_24> olabaz, here is some info from sourceforge http://sourceforge.net/p/rtl-wifi/discussion/652149/thread/0a48538e
[19:54] <MoleMan> but I have an AWS instance I'd need to be able to upgrade as well which could be more difficult
[19:54] <Beldar> Linoron, loading a usb has limitations you are adding a file of mods to a read only iso, a wifi password should be kept however if saved correctly. I use unetbootin at times mainly another multiloader, both have persistent options, it may be as simple as the size you set is just to small. This is not rocket science, I have never had persistent fail ever if set up correctly. ;)
[19:55] <jcrza> I'm putting together a home server and I want it to be as secure as possible. What's a hardening guide you'd recommend?
[19:55] <pers3us> olabaz: Jockey as in extra (unsupported by ubuntu drivers) drivers that you can download from Additional Driver or whatever its called now.
[19:55] <olabaz> pers3us: yeah I just ran it and nothing came up
[19:55] <MoleMan> jcrza: never allow login as root
[19:55] <Vivekananda> Hey everyone I am trying to figure if my computer supports harware acceleration. It has ubuntu 12.04 . Can someoen tell me how to find this out ?
[19:55] <jcrza> MoleMan will do
[19:56] <pers3us> There should be Realtek maintained driver over there. If not the compilation doesn't look like your problem. Something is wrong with the driver they have given you.
[19:56] <MoleMan> SSH keys are better than passwords, if you can, multi factor auth is a good one
[19:57] <dougl> Vivekananda, what kind of video card?
[19:57] <Linoron> Beldar: yes, I have made many such live usb sticks myself, just not with the latest ubuntu versions since 2012, so I was wondiering if there was a difference from Lucid Lynx...
[19:57] <MoleMan> ie my server only allows password auth from the local network, SSH keys only from anything outside the local subnet, and I'm working on 2 factor auth using Google Auth time based one time passwords as well
[19:57] <Beldar> Linoron, In this area no.
[19:58] <gmachine_24> olabaz, I'm reading that recent Linux kernel supports the rtl8187
[19:58] <jcrza> MoleMan sounds pretty good!
[19:59] <FreewheelinFrank> I keep getting a crash with nautilus, SIGSEGV
[19:59] <olabaz> gmachine_24: yeah I think I'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869369&p=5871563#post5871563
[20:01] <gmachine_24> olabaz, yeah that says it's solved but I can find out how
[20:01] <Paddy_NI> I just downloaded "cerbere_0.2+r42-0+pkg13+r1~precise1_amd64.deb" and installed it instead. :-)
[20:03] <HALanon9000> need some help: sudo apt-get doesn't work . when it says reading package lists it says done as soon a i start the command, doesn't try to read them. building dependancy tree stays at zero, then nothing. no error messages in the terminal, however there is an error message in my status bar. says its usually caused by unmet dependancies. i run sudo apt-get check and it does the same thing. ubuntu software center crashes upon launc
[20:03] <HALanon9000> h. any help is greatly appreciated
[20:04] <gmachine_24> olabaz, did you try http://sourceforge.net/projects/rtl-wifi/
[20:04] <olabaz> gmachine_24: yeah but I'm not sure what to do there
[20:04] <Beldar> HALanon9000, Have you changed anything in the sources.list?
[20:05] <Wilkim> hello
[20:05] <Beldar> HALanon9000, are you using a update command IE sudo apt-get update
[20:06] <gmachine_24> olabaz, well, there's this http://sourceforge.net/p/rtl-wifi/code/HEAD/tree/
[20:06] <HALanon9000> i've used the sudo apt-add repository command, but i haven't edited since. i've had it working since my last edit. andi've tried a bunch of apt-get commands with the same results
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> HALanon9000: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:07] <phibonacci_> how do I automatically mount a second & third hard rive?
[20:07] <phibonacci_> please... :)
[20:07] <Seveas> phibonacci_: add them to /etc/fstab
[20:07] <Seveas> !fstab | phibonacci_
[20:07] <gmachine_24> olabaz, that appears to be based on a usb dongle with that rtl chip....... :-)
[20:07] <gmachine_24> :-(, rather
[20:07] <Seveas> HALanon9000: pastebin the full output of an apt-get command that fails.
[20:07] <olabaz> lol
[20:08] <phibonacci_> excellent, thanks - fstab scares me by the way :)
[20:08] <HALanon9000> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS _Precise Pangolin_ - Release i386 (20130820.1)]/ precise main restricted
[20:08] <HALanon9000> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[20:08] <HALanon9000> # newer versions of the distribution.
[20:08] <HALanon9000> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[20:08] <HALanon9000> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
[20:08] <FloodBot1> HALanon9000: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <HALanon9000> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[20:08] <Beldar> HALanon9000,  Hmm, how about a plain apt-get update what happens, sounds like you have broken packages, if so this is something you have to fix when it happens to have use of all the updaters and upgraders
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> HALanon9000: use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:09] <Vivekananda> dougl: hmm I have a lenovo T60 and it has one of the nvidia ( not the gaming one ) graphics. But I am not talking about gpu. I am trying ot run emulators ( android) on it and it is cpu hardware acceleration that I need help with ie something like this ---
[20:09] <Vivekananda> http://software.intel.com/en-us/android/articles/speeding-up-the-android-emulator-on-intel-architecture
[20:09] <gmachine_24> olabaz, I feel your pain; just built a home server to run headless and cannot get a usb wifi configured.... it's supported by ubuntu because I've plugged it in to other Ubuntu computers but (I guess) since the server install is minimal the drivers are not included
[20:10] <olabaz> gmachine_24: yeah it's annoying
[20:10] <HALanon9000> i'm a dumby. i probably could have figured that out myself. sudo apt-get update fixed the problem
[20:10] <Korny> runnign a server over wifi..... I don't blame them for not including the drivers
[20:10] <HALanon9000> thanks guys
[20:10] <gmachine_24> olabaz, I don't want to spend more $$$ buying a wireless card as I know this usb device works well........ meanwhile I have a cable running across my living room...yes, annoying
[20:11] <Beldar> HALanon9000, You might try these to commands. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:11] <Beldar> then  sudo apt-get -f install
[20:11] <Beldar> two*
[20:11] <Beldar> HALanon9000, Ah I see the update got you going now, cool.
[20:11] <lifeforms> /+/
[20:11] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. does ubuntu have a project such as owncloud or the like to help users build their own cloud server?
[20:12] <lifeforms> whoops, what I meant was: how 'dangerous' is it to use apt-get dist-upgrade as a matter of course when running LTS?
[20:12] <DJones> !cloud | gmachine_24
[20:12] <Seveas> DJones: that's an entirely different thing :)
[20:12] <gmachine_24> DJones, merci.
[20:13] <Seveas> gmachine_24: ubuntu ships owncloud packages
[20:13] <HALanon9000> error message went away too.
[20:13] <Beldar> lifeforms, I always do, just watch for any held packages you do not want to do a partial upgrade is all.
[20:13] <Seveas> gmachine_24: there's also 'ubuntu one' as a hosted solution
[20:13] <DJones> gmachine_24: Perhaps a better starting page is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuCloudInfrastructure
[20:13] <HALanon9000> once again ty
[20:16] <brewmaster619> I've tried googling this, but pretty much can't find anything except people forgetting to do it with elevated privileges: I'm having trouble adding users.  Added one extra user (besides mine), but now am getting "useradd: existing lock file /etc/subuid.lock without a PID".  Using the graphical users app also errors, and just says exiting with error code 1.
[20:16] <lifeforms> Beldar: thanks :) I usually only see the kernel packages held back, I have a script that updates a box and I wonder if it would be prudent to add a 'apt-get dist-upgrade -fy linux-\*' to it...
[20:17] <abcdev> help
[20:18] <Seveas> abcdev: that's going to be tricky if you don't say what you need help with :)
[20:18] <gmachine_24> I should have said: this is for a computer running the latest ubuntu server version 13.10
[20:18] <brewmaster619> I have rebooted, etc.  Ubuntu 13.10, upgraded from 13.04
[20:18] <gmachine_24> Seveas, yes, I know about Ubuntu one...just not a fan of storing 101011001 one someone else's computer
[20:19] <Seveas> gmachine_24: then use owncloud :)
[20:19] <Seveas> brewmaster619: what
[20:19] <Seveas> brewmaster619: what's the output of 'fuser /etc/subuid.lock'
[20:20] <Beldar> lifeforms, Personally I want to see my updates upgrades, but that's just me.
[20:25] <blocky> does installing my system to an extended partition change where I need to install the bootloader?
[20:25] <Seveas> blocky: you'll still want to install the bootloader to the mbr
[20:26] <blocky> Seveas: the last time i installed a bootloader to a partition and not the mbr i think it was LILO and not grub, is that even still done?
[20:29] <Seveas> blocky: can't remember the last time I saw anyone use lilo
[20:30] <Vivekananda> anyone care to comment on how to find out if my intel cpu supports hardware acceleration
[20:31] <bekks> Vivekananda: Enter the make and model on ark.intel.com
[20:31] <lifeforms> Beldar: yeah, I'm thinking just the kernel might not be so problematic, I'll try it and if it breaks down horribly I've learned something :)
[20:31] <bekks> Vivekananda: you can find the exact make and model using "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[20:31] <lifeforms> Beldar: thanks again!
[20:32] <Vivekananda>  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8100  @ 2.10GHz
[20:32] <Vivekananda> bekks I got that   Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8100  @ 2.10GHz
[20:32] <bekks> Vivekananda: Now enter that T8100 on ark.intel.com
[20:33] <Seveas> Vivekananda: grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo
[20:34] <bekks> Seveas: that will result in false negatives if VT-x is disabled in the BIOS.
[20:35] <Seveas> bekks: true, but does any OEM do that?
[20:35] <bekks> Seveas: sure, pretty much do.
[20:35] <Vivekananda> bekks: Seveas this site  http://software.intel.com/en-us/android/articles/speeding-up-the-android-emulator-on-intel-architecture   tells me I need : intel VT-x, EM64T and Execute Disable(XD) Bit functionality enabled from the BIOS.    to get hardware acceleration. Now I see a yes for vt x but dont see anything about the other two
[20:36] <Vivekananda> based on entering the cpu info on the ark site I mean
[20:37] <Beldar> lifeforms, No prob.
[20:37] <bekks> Vivekananda: I dont know what you are reading - but ark.intel.com states that your CPU supports all three requirements.
[20:38] <bekks> Vivekananda: "Intel® Virtualization Technology (VT-x): yes", "Intel 64: yes", "Execute disable bit: yes"
[20:39] <Vivekananda> ooo okay thanks. I did not see the words EM64 T and XD anywhere so did not know what to look for an ddont know what they mean too. Also my current OS that is loaded is 32 bit linux 12.04 ( ubuntu) not the 64 bit
[20:40] <Vivekananda> does that affect things ?
[20:40] <brewmaster619> Seveas: the output of fuser /etc/subuid.lock is nothing;
[20:40] <bekks> Vivekananda: No.
[20:40] <bekks> Vivekananda: you can setup a vm as well, running 64bit.
[20:41] <Vivekananda> so I have to just enabble the XD bios setting ( wherever that might be ) then ? I have a lenovo t61
[20:43] <bekks> Vivekananda: does your "cat /proc/cpuinfo" output list "vmx"? If so, it is already enabled.
[20:46] <Seveas> brewmaster619: and the output of ls -la /etc/subuid.lock ?
[20:48] <brewmaster619> Seveas: ls -la /etc/subuid.lock output is: -rw------- 1 root root 0 Nov 30 08:27 /etc/subuid.lock
[20:49] <brewmaster619> so maybe I shoudl just delete that file?
[20:53] <Seveas> brewmaster619: yeah, get rid of it
[20:54] <morsnowski> !die
[20:56] <konnor> basicly is there a Connectify for linux...
[20:56] <konnor> http://rumyittips.com/how-to-use-a-laptop-as-a-wireless-repeater/
[20:57] <mikubuntu> after i cleared/copied all files from my 'old' laptop to a usb -- i went to install ubuntustudio (also from a usb), but after starting to boot, the screen went completely black and the machine completely quiet -- no whirring of hdd, and of course the usb doesn't spin like a cd. but i didn't see any lights blinking or any indication that it was doing anything.
[20:58] <brewmaster619> Seveas:  That seemed to do it; subgid.lock had the same problem; was locked by root at the same time the other files was; I must have had a system lock-up and did a forced shutdown that day or something.
[20:58] <spoown> Hello to all, I have a simple question, does anyone known how can I transform one big line where each element is separated by ',' , into another file where each element is a line ? probably one command does it but don't remember !
[20:59] <brewmaster619> Thanks!
[20:59] <mikubuntu> i got flustered, and thought well, i'll try installing lubuntu instead from a disk, but the disk also, seemed to get to a particular point, and then go black and the computer silent -- no indication that it was writing to the hdd at all.
[20:59] <andcanelon> Does anybody want to buy 500 monkeys with pants?
[20:59] <r0b-> does the ATI Proprietary driver work with Ubuntu 12.04.3? I know it does not work with 13.10.
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: what card?
[21:00] <r0b-> HD6670
[21:00] <OerHeks> r0b-, depends on your ati card
[21:00] <Beldar> andcanelon, Is that with or that
[21:00] <r0b-> nothing fancy but meh
[21:00] <hitsujiTMO> r0b- yes it works on 13.10 and 12.04.3/12.04.4
[21:01] <r0b-> I cant get it to work with my Xubuntu 13.10.
[21:01] <r0b-> so i was thinking ill go back to 12.04 :)
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: did you generate a xorg.conf for it with: sudo aticonfig --initial             ?
[21:01] <r0b-> yes.
[21:02] <r0b-> the desktop environment fails to load.
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: are you on a 13.10 now with the driver installed?
[21:02] <r0b-> I am using the OpenSource Driver currently.
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: how did you install fglrx?
[21:03] <r0b-> Apt-get
[21:03] <mikubuntu> the old installation had about 15 gigs of files i saved, plus it had another 25-30 gigs in code from all the apps that were on it --- is it possible that it was silent because it was quietly overwriting, or possible something is awry? i aborted, and am running dban now -- its been running 44 mins, and says remaining time is 9 hours and some.
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: if you had it running currently we could check the logs for the cause of the issue
[21:04] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: right now i have a Ubuntu 12.04.3 USB booted scanning an unknown hard drive for errors.
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: can you pastebin the output of: dmesg
[21:05] <YaMoonSun> I want to buy an octacore android phone from china, will ubuntu phone offer more support anytime soon? Seems only nexus was worked on =/
[21:05] <ulkesh> spoown: vi <your file>   then   :%s/,/\n/g<ENTER>  then  :wq<ENTER>
[21:05] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: I am currently just running a vanilla Ubuntu live USB.
[21:05] <OerHeks> YaMoonSun, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support only
[21:05] <OerHeks> !phone
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: in a terminal run: sudo apt0get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: it should have a minimal effect on the scan
[21:06] <YaMoonSun> Oh? A redirect would be lovel.y
[21:06] <YaMoonSun> Im dumb, nvm
[21:06] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: i dont have the FGLRX driver installed righ now.
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: yes i know
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: gonna look for some other specifics
[21:07] <user2> Can somebody help me find the Xresources file on my Ubuntu 13.10 Server?
[21:07] <r0b-> and im not at that PC right now.
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: ahh. kk
[21:08] <r0b-> Not trying to be tough man :)
[21:08] <ulkesh> spoown: or if you need it in another file when done instead of :wq<ENTER>  do  :w <new file name><ENTER>  and then :q<ENTER>
[21:09] <hitsujiTMO> user2: ~/.Xresources      it may not exist initally
[21:09] <spoown> ulkesh,  so simple, shame on me :) thanks a lot, it's working :) I did it with sed
[21:09] <ulkesh> spoown: ah, i never learned sed :)
[21:09] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: i do remember the driver working fine on 12.04.3 so i may have to step back :)
[21:10] <ulkesh> spoown: although i suppose the syntax is similar in vi (the %s)
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: installing 12.04 now will put you on 12.04.4 ... the same stack as in saucy
[21:10] <r0b-> on my hard drive i have Xubuntu 13.10 64bit.
[21:10] <r0b-> oh
[21:11] <kriskropd> I'm in a unique position of strictly ssh access to a machine I have sitting in front of me (xorg seg-faulted and left all my processes running while completely making my displays and mouse and keyboard unresponsive) - I'd like to copy the buffer of each urxvt process I have running to a text file named after the PID
[21:11] <r0b-> well then
[21:11] <kriskropd> does anyone know how to do that?
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: relevant info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:12] <r0b-> hitsujiTMO: could 64bit cause any issues?
[21:12] <spoown> ulkesh,  should have work in vi, but it is not actually, that's why I did it with sed ! that's why I did try with sed !
[21:12] <spoown> ulkesh,  but excellent idea :)
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: nope. you should be using 64bit.
[21:13] <ulkesh> spoown: hmm, it definitely should work in vi :)  but ah well, still worked your way and was probably faster
[21:13] <r0b-> or 13.10 is to new :)
[21:13] <nakadai> o/
[21:13] <hitsujiTMO> r0b-: i'd presume it was some odd config issue with the newer stack. prob easily fixed
[21:14] <spoown> ulkesh,  it did change the character in the file, but when you want to see afterwards the file, it is still in one line... but anyway it's working in sed , and yes your are right, it is faster with sed...
[21:16]  * r0b- will mess with it at some point
[21:16] <r0b-> i like Xubuntu because its the ONLY desktop environment that properly supports my 2 monitors.
[21:17] <chris________> hi all, unable to get to dashboard and have installed compiz settings. It wont allow me to select Unity Plugin. How can i fix this? I have no dash
[21:17] <ulkesh> spoown: maybe \r would've worked then, i never know the best one to use (or the combo of \r\n)
[21:19] <nightlingo> yo!!!
[21:19] <r0b-> brb
[21:19] <nightlingo> guys... I am running xubuntu 12.04  and I need libudev.so.1
[21:19] <aleza84> hey, need help with RFID reader, its a HID simple reader, gots detected but does not read tags I got the dmesg and other logs
[21:20] <nightlingo> when I apt-get install libudev1 it says package not found
[21:20] <nightlingo> I guess this is just for newer distros of ubuntu
[21:20] <chris________> anyone, please? Can you help , me with No dashboard?
[21:20] <bekks> nightlingo: apt-cache search libudev
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> !info libudev1
[21:20] <TeraJL> i have system load indicator, and it's set with "ondemand" but almost all times , even with nothing on, it is at 2.20Ghz(max), it only goes to minimal for less than a second and up again during a long time... is it normal? if it's not can someone help me to check why it's like this?.. i only have pidgin on at the moment
[21:20] <Seveas> nightlingo: on 12.04 it was probably still libudev0. Why do you suddenly need this file? You're most likely doing something wrong.
[21:20] <hitsujiTMO> !info libudev1 precise
[21:20] <nightlingo> there  is a specific program I want to run
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> !info libudev precise
[21:21] <nightlingo> that requires libudev.so.1
[21:21] <Seveas> nightlingo: then it won't work on 12.04.
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> !find libudev.so.1 precise
[21:21] <Seveas> hitsujiTMO: stop it.
[21:21] <nightlingo> I was thinking of not installing it.. just putting it in the local program's directory
[21:21] <hitsujiTMO> Seveas: sorry
[21:21] <nightlingo> ubottu: yeah... it's not in the precise distro
[21:21] <nightlingo> lol
[21:22] <bekks> nightlingo: Which program do you try to run actually?
[21:22] <nightlingo> bekks: it's cgminer
[21:22] <Seveas> nightlingo: you could grab its sources from current ubuntu and compile it on your version. That may just work.
[21:23] <nightlingo> Seveas: yeah that would be my final solution
[21:23] <spoown> ulkesh,  indeed, \r is working... it's better :) but sed is fatser :P
[21:23] <nightlingo> Seveas: but I thought I should try first just putting this file in the local dir
[21:23] <Seveas> nightlingo: bad idea.
[21:23] <nightlingo> Seveas: why ?
[21:23] <Seveas> using a new libudev on an old ubuntu is not going to work
[21:24] <k1l> echt jetzt
[21:24] <bekks> nightlingo: It will not work most likely, because that library requires things that arent supported by your 12.04
[21:24] <nightlingo> I thought it was standalone
[21:24] <bekks> nightlingo: It isnt.
[21:24] <Seveas> nightlingo: a better option might be to update your Ubuntu install 12.04 is almost two years old.
[21:24] <bekks> nightlingo: Thats why it is a library, not a statically compiled pile of code.
[21:24] <Seveas> looking at the dependencies for cgminer, I don't think it'll work on 12.04
[21:25] <bekks> Seveas: Waiting until 14.04 is more usefull.
[21:25] <nightlingo> Seveas: problem is that when I tried the latest ersion of xubuntu (13.X) it was constantly crashing on my 5-GPU machine
[21:25] <Seveas> bekks: meh, LTS is overrated on a desktop
[21:25] <nightlingo> Seveas: you mean building it ?
[21:25] <Seveas> nightlingo: try a 14.04 alpha
[21:26] <bekks> Seveas: For you, maybe. For others, it's pretty much what they want.
[21:26] <bekks> Seveas: And please dont suggest using alpha software.
[21:26] <chris________> AHi, sorry to be inpatient, but its getting late jere. I have no dash in 13.10. Can you help? I have tried the suggestions
[21:26] <Seveas> bekks: bullshit. most people want new software over stable but old. And trying an alpha from a live cd is just fine to see if it works on your machine.
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> nightlingo: seems many have gotten cgminer working on 12.04: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189499.0 maybe look for specific tuts
[21:27] <nightlingo> I guess a test wouldn't hurt
[21:27] <bekks> Seveas: Please watch your language and please stop assuming all people want bleeding edge software over stable, tested software.
[21:27] <r0b-> bbl
[21:27] <Beldar> chris________, This a fresh install, have you had a working desktop?
[21:27] <chris________> fresh install over windows
[21:28] <chris________> I have installed compizconf-settings-manager
[21:28] <nightlingo> hitsujiTMO: I will take a look at it thanks!
[21:28] <chris________> I ran ccsm
[21:28] <Seveas> nightlingo: and cgminer will work from a live install too. If you do go for the backport route, you can grab the sources from latest Ubuntu, but you can't use dpkg-buildpackage as it uses a too new version of debhelper
[21:28] <Beldar> chris________, which release, and again has the desktop worked yeT?
[21:29] <chris________> it wont alow me to select unity plugin.  Not had it working yet...
[21:29] <nightlingo> Seveas: hmmm...  I guess I will just test it on 14.0 as you said, on a live usb
[21:29] <Beldar> chris________, I would try the unity compiz reset for that release is what I'm getting to then do a reboot and see if it's in order.
[21:29] <nightlingo> Seveas: and if it works there then I'll install it
[21:29] <nightlingo> Seveas: thanks!
[21:29] <Seveas> nightlingo: np, good luck!
[21:30] <chris________> it boots and I can get into shell and I have tried the reset option
[21:30] <Juju> hola, mi hermana es un poco torpe buscando el gestor de software... ¿Alguien recuerda una WEB que tiene los enlaces apt?
[21:30] <Juju> es que ya no se como decirle donde está
[21:30] <Seveas> !es | Juju
[21:30] <Juju> Oh!!! sorry
[21:31] <Juju> hahaha i thought i was in the spanish room
[21:31] <Juju> sorry
[21:31] <Beldar> chris________, Are you missing graphic drivers maybe, do you know what the card is?
[21:31] <chris________> I don't just a basic p4
[21:31] <Juju> Hello!! I am looking for that web where you can install like apt-get "software center"
[21:32] <k1l> Juju: you mean packages.ubuntu.com?
[21:32] <Beldar> chris________, You might just install a light desktop to have one going while you get unity running.
[21:32] <bekks> Juju: On Ubuntu, you normally use the software-center or apt-get for installing software, not some web page. :)
[21:32] <chris________> when I go into usr apps it brings up the apps etc inc terminal. I eve tried dconf  reset too
[21:32] <compaq|armada> k
[21:33] <chris________> what command can I use to install a different OS?
[21:33] <chris________> i.e 12/04
[21:33] <Myrtti> chris________: different os?
[21:33] <Beldar> chris________, Not a OS a desktop
[21:33] <mikubuntu> after i cleared/copied all files from my 'old' laptop to a usb -- i went to install ubuntustudio (also from a usb), but after starting to boot, the screen went completely black and the machine completely quiet -- no whirring of hdd, and of course the usb doesn't spin like a cd. but i didn't see any lights blinking or any indication that it was doing anything.
[21:34] <mikubuntu> i got flustered, and thought well, i'll try installing lubuntu instead from a disk, but the disk also, seemed to get to a particular point, and then go black and the computer silent -- no indication that it was writing to the hdd at all.
[21:34] <edve> need any support with SNMP anyone out there knows how to configure the snmpd.conf file ?
[21:34] <mikubuntu> the old installation had about 15 gigs of files i saved, plus it had another 25-30 gigs in code from all the apps that were on it --- is it possible that it was silent because it was quietly overwriting, or possible something is awry? i aborted, and am running dban now -- its been running 44 mins, and says remaining time is 9 hours and some.
[21:34] <chris________> ahh duuurr lol. a different version of ubuntu? Just to see if that works
[21:34] <bekks> chris________: No.
[21:34] <bekks> chris________: a different desktop, not a different Ubuntu version.
[21:35] <bekks> chris________: Like kde, gnome, unity, lxde, xfce - on the very same ubuntu version you are on.
[21:35] <Juju> bekks» i know, but a web with this possibilities exits
[21:35] <k1l> chris________: install the package: lubuntu-desktop. that will install lubuntu with lxde as desktop. that is more lightweight
[21:35] <Seveas> edve: what do you want to know about it?
[21:35] <bekks> Juju: Even if it does, it isnt recommended to use those websites.
[21:36] <Juju> k1l» something like that, but with icons and a searcher... THANK YOU anyway
[21:36] <glitsj16> Juju: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/ perhaps?
[21:36] <chris________> trying to install the lxde option now
[21:36] <Juju> glitsj16» YES!!
[21:36] <edve> Seveas : actually i'm trying only to set the community and allow any host on my network to snmpget and it dosnt seems to work :/
[21:36] <Juju> thanks so so so so so much
[21:36] <Juju> k1l» bekks and glistj16 THOUSANDS oF thanks!!
[21:37] <Seveas>  11 access monitor   ""      any       auth      exact   all    none   none
[21:37] <glitsj16> Juju: np
[21:37] <Seveas> edve: hmm, no, that's an snmpv3 user, one sec
[21:37] <sh0t> hey guys did anyone of you make the wifi card RT3290 work on Ubuntu 13.10?  I know it sounds daft, but i have no options avail other than ctrl+alt+T
[21:39] <Seveas> edve: and then snmpwalk -v2c -vyourcommunitynamehere ip.address.here .
[21:39] <sh0t> hey guys did anyone of you make the wifi card RT3290 work on Ubuntu 13.10? I am going crazy about it i only get kernel panics using the guide on the forums
[21:39] <Seveas> (don't ignore the last .)
[21:40] <hitsujiTMO> chris________: gnome-session-quit --no-prompt
[21:40] <kiwi_> hi ... how can i capture embedded flash (.swf) videos. not the ones at youtube. the EMBEDDED ones. i assume they cant be downloaded, can they? at least there should be a way to capture the video stream using ffmpeg or something else. any idea?
[21:40] <jjavaholic> I'm currently experiencing this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/375972/unity-and-mouse-cursor-problems-13-10
[21:40] <edve> Seveas : i'll giving it a try right away
[21:40] <bekks> kiwi_: everything that can be watched on the internet can be downloaded as well.
[21:40] <nightlingo> !info libudev1 trusty
[21:41] <kiwi_> bekks, great. how? :-)
[21:41] <bekks> nightlingo: just use packages.ubuntu.com
[21:41] <bekks> nightlingo: you dont have to abuse the bot ;)
[21:41] <mraky> Lubuntu  is  very light..
[21:41] <kiwi_> bekks, those embedded videos dont tell the url of their source.
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: you'd have to contact the ppa maintainers for help. You've replaced core components with versions from the ppa
[21:43] <nightlingo> bekks: sorry :)
[21:43] <sidiney> JamesNZ,  i check the logcat
[21:43] <jjavaholic> for what?
[21:43] <skinux> Is Screenlets official Ubuntu package or third party?
[21:43] <jjavaholic> how do I find the PPA?
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: what ppa did you install for gnome 3.10?
[21:44] <skinux> It's unwise to modify Windows partition using Linux, right?
[21:44] <bekks> skinux: correct.
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> skinux: yes.
[21:44] <jjavaholic> could you point me in the right direction to the bug which describes the problem?
[21:44] <Seveas> skinux: true, but that does not hold for files on those partitions
[21:45] <skinux> I already work with files on Windows partition, but I meant changing partition size, that sort of thing.
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: its not a bug. you've simply replaced the core components that unity uses with a different version therefore breaking unity
[21:45] <HALanon9000> i just installed the cinnamon desktop enviroment on ubuntu 12.04, and now theres a bunch of icons missing. is there an easy fix to this? or do i have to fix them individually?
[21:45] <TJ-> Do we have any VGA text-mode x86 real-mode experts?
[21:45] <Seveas> skinux: and shrinking windows partitions from linux (especially from the installer) is generally safe. Backups are always advised though.
[21:46] <jjavaholic> I need to stop the bad habit of installing PPA to short term "resolve issues"
[21:47] <Beldar> HALanon9000, from a ppa right, if so not technically supported here is all.
[21:47] <skinux> Cool. I might use Windows to do it anyway since I don't have any good backups currently.
[21:47] <hitsujiTMO> jjavaholic: test in first in a virtual machine is always a good way to go
[21:48] <jjavaholic> virtual machines takes up so much storage space  * cries a little inside * I might bite the bullet though anyway
[21:49] <luca> Dear friends, could you explain how to attach ISO to the virtual machine??
[21:49] <Beldar> jjavaholic, Hardly more than an install.
[21:49] <bekks> jjavaholic: Full blown testing vm with 4 different desktops take about 10G here. Thats not "much space".
[21:51] <jjavaholic> I used virctual box and set aside separate iso for each distro (windows) then I kinda realised years ago that I was needlessly using up that space and ditched them all.
[21:51] <jjavaholic> what was what seemed like years ago now though
[21:52] <glitsj16> sh0t: you're not crazy .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1049466 .. mixed reports though on possible fixes
[21:52] <jjavaholic> I have had a quick look and i'm pretty sure it was this outdated ppa: http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu
[21:53] <skinux> I'm not sure it's appropriate, but anyone know if I can install Windows 8.1 into VBox while it's still installed on it's own partition?
[21:53] <bekks> skinux: Sure.
[21:53] <sh0t> glitsj16, yeah! not sure how to proceed
[21:54] <skinux> Isn't there a rule limiting how many installations can be had by one person using same key?
[21:54] <bekks> skinux: Yes, there is. But it is irrelevant to Ubuntu at all.
[21:55] <jjavaholic> 2 I think
[21:55] <jjavaholic> 2 or three
[21:55] <skinux> Sorry, I took a shot in this channel since Windows channel usually doesn't have a lot of "dual booters".
[21:55] <skinux> Thanks jjavaholic.
[21:56] <blocky> does anyone know where a wallpaper is saved if you set it from firefox? i want to use the same wallpaper for my terminal background
[21:56] <blocky> nvmhmm fasdf
[21:56] <glitsj16> sh0t: easiest would be installing the 3.12 or 3.13 kernel
[21:56] <blocky> sorry. nevermind, just found it in my home directory
[21:57] <harris> In ubuntu virtual box keeps aborting when trying to run ubuntu
[21:57] <sh0t> yeah i glitsj16 i tried with 3.12 but it still was kernel panicking. A question: if i install 3.12 kernel do i also need to compile the driver i found on internet or does it support it natively?
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: it should be supported natively
[21:58] <glitsj16> sh0t: according to the bug report several people had succes without compiling anything
[21:59] <sh0t> thanks hitsujiTMO, glitsj16  i'll try so i download the image and the headers and in run dpkg -i on them then upgrade-grub and then reboot
[21:59] <sh0t> ?
[21:59] <glitsj16> sh0t: correct
[21:59] <sh0t> thanks glitsj16
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: installing the image will trigger update grub, but yup
[21:59] <skinux> Oh, something else I need is to give Ubuntu a SWAP partition. Somehow it vanished.
[22:00] <sh0t> another question guys should i uninstall the driver i installed before?
[22:00] <sh0t> with a make uninstall?
[22:00] <sh0t> and removing it from /etc/modules
[22:00] <dstar69> ubuntu 12.04 unity - skype installed, recognises video in the settings menu, but not while ringing.
[22:00] <sh0t> i guess ?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: that would be a good idea
[22:00] <dstar69> i can only find old (2012) fixes that don't seem to apply
[22:01]  * skinux keeps wondering why Ubuntu removed "Application" and "System" menus.
[22:01] <Beldar> dstar69, This skype from the ubuntu repos?
[22:01] <sh0t> thanks hitsujiTMO what about initramfs should i do something with that?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: no that will be triggered
[22:01] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks i am proceeding
[22:01] <glitsj16> skinux: you can install an indicator to get those back
[22:02] <Beldar> skinux, ubuntu did not remove them that was gnome 2 now end of life we now have gnome 3
[22:02] <dstar69> beldar - no through skype website
[22:02] <dstar69> couldn't find it in repo
[22:03] <Beldar> dstar69, The one from the repos is the recommended path, I would remove that one and try that
[22:03] <dstar69> do you have a path ahandy? i tried to search for it (but obviously couldn't find it) thanks
[22:03] <Beldar> dstar69, It is in the partners repo is all you would make sure it is on, run a update then sudo apt-get install skyoe
[22:03] <Beldar> skype*
[22:04] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, i rebooted with kernel 3.12 it seems it gets the signal even though it's not strong so i 'll try to navigate a bit and use the network
[22:05] <dstar69> Beldar - will try this now thanks.
[22:06] <Beldar> no prob
[22:07] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, glitsj16 it seems it's working now thanks guys
[22:07] <glitsj16> sh0t: you're welcome, good news
[22:07] <ViaNocturna85> anyone know how to set lightdm back as default login after Kubuntu install over Ubuntu (Saucy)? I tried dpkg-reconfigure lightdm, but still get default Kubuntu greeter
[22:07] <monoclithi> one more convert
[22:08] <k1l> ViaNocturna85: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[22:09] <ViaNocturna85> k1l, I tried that multiple times, no difference
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> ViaNocturna85  paste this line in a terminal screen      sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[22:10] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, glitsj16 just a simple question about you guys you can answer in pt if you want....but how does it work with you guys are u always online helping people with ubuntu?
[22:10] <ViaNocturna85> k1l, aaaah theres the issue
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: i've the net hooked to my brain
[22:10] <ViaNocturna85> k1l, thanks very much
[22:10] <sh0t> hitsujiTMO, ahah very good you are the next Jhonny Mnemonic
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> sh0t: :P but I access irc from everywhere so on constantly
[22:11] <glitsj16> sh0t: lol, i'm spending quite some time in here lately yes, due to some knee troubles i must rest and was getting bored out of the skull
[22:12] <sh0t> i understand guys. good to know...
[22:12] <sh0t> (not for your knee glitsj16 jsut that you hare helping .))
[22:12] <glitsj16> sh0t: :) np
[22:17] <glitsj16> sh0t: you mentioned weak signal, others on the bug report do so too .. you might give instructions on #116 a shot to see if it improves things while you're at it
[22:18] <jpbates13> Is there anyway I can get a version of ubuntu LOWER than 32bit?
[22:18] <dstar69> beldar - can't find skype - tried to put the command in the terminal regardless, says it can't find skype.
[22:18] <jpbates13> if i burn ubuntu to a disk and boot my computer to it...will it overwrite my previous OS?
[22:18] <dstar69> beldar - not 100% sure i have "partner repo" running
[22:19] <Seveas> jpbates13: that makes absolutely no sense. Nobody builds 16 bit CPU's with the power to run anything like ubuntu. Moreover, I'm not sure if linux actually runs on anything 16-bit.
[22:19] <jpbates13> Seveas: Just need it for a virtual machine
[22:19] <dstar69> @jpbates13 if you're running it from the dvd, it won't overwrite.
[22:19] <Seveas> jpbates13: it will only overwrite your installed os if you tell it to.
[22:20] <jpbates13> Seveas: for some reason my Virtual Machine gets a kernal error with the 64bit version
[22:20] <skinux> I guess indicator-appmenu?
[22:20] <jpbates13> Seveas: I'm downloading the 32bit now
[22:21] <jpbates13> Seveas: But if THAT doesn't work...
[22:21] <glitsj16> skinux: for the applications menu old-style? no .. http://www.florian-diesch.de/software/classicmenu-indicator/
[22:22] <demophobia> I have some old Ubuntu installation CD-Rs, e.g. Ubuntu 9.04 i386. What should I do with them? Is there a charity to which they could be donated, or are such old releases obsolete? Is there a good way to recycle or dispose of it, or should I try to use it as a coaster before putting it in a landfill?
[22:22] <k1l> demophobia: that outdated releases are not help
[22:22] <k1l> *no help anymore
[22:23] <SchrodingersScat> demophobia: sounds like you got some coasters
[22:25] <kenny1> I want amd drivers that I can mine crypto with
[22:30] <jerkface03> What happened to the build-essentials package?
[22:30] <jerkface03> apt-get install build-essentials no longer finds it
[22:31] <k1l> !info build-essentials
[22:31] <trism> jerkface03: no s at the end
[22:31] <jerkface03> trism: Thanks.
[22:31] <k1l> yep. one s too much
[22:31] <jerkface03> working now.
[22:31] <SchrodingersScat> an s too far
[22:31] <dstar69> where can i find skype for ubuntu from the software centre
[22:32] <demophobia> Schrodinger`Cat, thanks for your input ... Incidentally, why are CD-Rs one-use only? (unlike CD-RWs) ... another question I should search online? ...
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> dstar69  enable the 3rd party repo, or is it partner repo
[22:32] <k1l> demophobia: that goes too much into offtopic now. please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <SchrodingersScat> !info skype | dstar69
[22:32] <SchrodingersScat> huh, weird
[22:33] <k1l> Schrodinger`Cat: partner repo
[22:33] <dstar69> ubottu /monkeydust - running 12.04 precise, can't find it nevertheless
[22:33] <bprompt> dstar69:     hmmm I'm running 12.04 64bit as well, just ran an apt-cache search, it shows up there
[22:33] <dstar69> how can i check i have 3rd party enabled
[22:34] <dstar69> running 32 bit
[22:34] <k1l> dstar69: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding_Canonical_Partner_Repositories
[22:35] <SchrodingersScat> demophobia: just their nature.  Now I would recommend having a flashdrive to work with images like that.  Then you can update on the same memory and maybe even have multiple boot options.
[22:36] <jhutchins> SchrodingersScat: You have to get skype from Microsoft now.
[22:36] <demophobia> Schrodinger`Cat, i have done that with this ubuntu 12.04; i put it on a flash drive which i had to format for it -- which brings me to the question: How do I reformat the 16 Gb flash drive for storage purposes?
[22:37] <jhutchins> !skype
[22:37] <Schrodinger`Cat> demophobia, ?
[22:37] <Schrodinger`Cat> SchrodingersScat, meow !
[22:37] <dstar69> ubottu perfect. will read that.
[22:37] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: tab confusion.
[22:37] <uTired2> haha
[22:38] <Schrodinger`Cat> SchrodingersScat, too many undefined states here !
[22:38] <jhutchins> demophobia: What kind of storage?  Does it need to be readable by other systems (Windows)?
[22:38] <SchrodingersScat> Schrodinger`Cat: I don't know if I'm here or not.
[22:39] <demophobia> jhutchins, yes
[22:42] <SchrodingersScat> demophobia: there are many options, gparted and gnome-disks are two, in windows there should be some kind of disk utility program for that, disk administration or something.
[22:42] <Nothing_Much> I'm wondering if system76 will offer any AMD CPUs/GPUs at any time?
[22:42] <SchrodingersScat> Nothing_Much: should request it, demand and supply.
[22:43] <Nothing_Much> SchrodingersScat: Where do I request it? On the Ubuntu forums?
[22:44] <k1l> Nothing_Much: just ask them. we in here cant help on that
[22:44] <Nothing_Much> k1l: where though?
[22:44] <SchrodingersScat> Nothing_Much: https://www.system76.com/contact/ you could even send them a fax.
[22:44] <zatan> hey is anyone seeing calendar on the input ? http://jsfiddle.net/Ezrv9/3/
[22:44] <Nothing_Much> Oh okay thanks
[22:46] <jhutchins> demophobia: you probably want to makefs -t vfat /dev/sr#
[22:47] <gotsole> greetings programs
[22:50] <loki_> Hi guys.  I am trying to setup ssmtp to send nagios alerts to my gmail, but I am hitting a snag.  I am getting an error that it cannot connect to the mail hub.  is anyone around to help out?
[22:51] <demophobia> thank you
[22:51] <thor_of_asgard> I CANNOT HELP YOU BROTHER
[22:52] <loki_> hahah
[22:52] <thor_of_asgard> srsly tho, not my area. Sorry m8
[22:52] <loki_> well I got it working
[22:52] <jhutchins> loki_: Are you trying to connect to a remote system or just on the same machine.
[22:52] <jhutchins> loki_: Ok, good.