[00:00] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:00] <smthnew> hello guys. Could anybody advise me, how to find ftp folder from ftp user on ubuntu server under root?
[00:00] <snex> ?
[00:00] <snex> _
[00:00] <snex> ?
[00:00] <snex> hello?
[00:00] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I just used /sites-available and copied and modified the existing default file
[00:00] <FloodBot1> snex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <snex> anyone here?
[00:00] <codephobic> fedeisas, I've found some new access and error logs, just looking through them now
[00:01] <snex> im getting the sense this wont be the kind of chat im looking fore
[00:01] <snex> for
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> are the configs still softlinked in /sites-enabled ?
[00:01] <fedeisas> sometimes when you update the sites-enabled and sites-available folder gets rewritten
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> snex: his support not chat is all.
[00:01] <chare> its official I cannot format a partition during Saucy installation without it failing, how do I do that manually through Live CD
[00:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, yep
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> this*
[00:02] <codephobic> fedeisas, all my configs are still there in /sites-available/ and I can't get a2ensite to work.
[00:02] <fedeisas> and in sites-enable?
[00:02] <wilee-nilee> chare: gparted works, you may have to many pending, are you aware of  the limitations?
[00:03] <spydon> chare: you can partition with gparted through a live cd
[00:03] <smthnew> so, nobody knows?
[00:03] <codephobic> fedeisas, I can't find any errors relating to accessing the site.
[00:03] <codephobic> nothing new there, post upgrade.
[00:03] <chare> ok guys going to try gparted through live cd
[00:03] <chare> THIS BETTER WORK
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: whats the output of ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[00:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, it lists all the sites I expect to have virtualhosting for
[00:04] <fahadash> smthnew: Are you trying to see which landing folder shows up if a user connects through ftp ?
[00:04] <blz> Hi, I think i accidentally removed my user from the sudo group and now I don't have any root access on any account
[00:04] <blz> what can I do?
[00:04] <blz> this is a headless machine, btw
[00:04] <fedeisas> remember that apache reads your sites from sited-enabled. You have to make a symlink between available and enabled. ie: ln -s /etc/apache2/sites-available/default /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default
[00:04] <nicksloan> where do I read about the build process for python?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> are the symlinks correct?
[00:04] <codephobic> could it be a question of root access? they all belong to root root, now.
[00:04] <nicksloan> for example, who is the maintainer? are any patches applied? etc
[00:05] <fedeisas> is apache receiving your request? Can you see it on access.log?
[00:05] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, the symlinks look good
[00:05] <fedeisas> if it's a permission error, you should see it on error.log
[00:05] <smthnew> yes it is. I just upload some info via ftp and want to pickup
[00:05] <codephobic> they're all "../sites-available/..."
[00:05] <frodopwns> Is this the kind of thing I would want to do to make a user for celery to run as? "sudo useradd -r -s /bin/false celery"
[00:06] <stewart_> hi codephobic have you defined a server alias
[00:06] <codephobic> fedeisas, that's the strange thing, even though I'm trying to access the site in chrome, I see no access/error logs in the log files.
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: then as fedeisas says check the global error log ...
[00:06] <Wug> Nothing i've thrown at it has had any effect.  New question. I can no longer see any of my desktop icons, nor can I get any context menus right clicking on the desktop.  The files are all there, but the desktop is blank.
[00:06] <stewart_> and a server name
[00:06] <smthnew> but there are root user in SSH, and ftp folder under ftp user. I even dont know how to reach ftp's users folders - there are no /home/ftp/ folder
[00:06] <Wug> (this was an issue before too, but I decided to pick and choose my battles)
[00:06] <codephobic> ah
[00:06] <codephobic> I just saw the access log
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: is the port being blocked?
[00:07] <codephobic> it updated quite late
[00:07] <codephobic> hmm
[00:07] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I used to have firestarter firewall installed, but that's been removed (it seems).
[00:07] <codephobic> Can't find it, so can't try switching it off
[00:08] <fedeisas> it's apache service started?
[00:08] <codephobic> but I can access other virtualhost websites, served from VMs that are running in the background
[00:08] <fedeisas> you can install nmap and check if port 80 is open..
[00:08] <codephobic> fedeisas, yes apache is running, I get directed to my default page
[00:08] <smthnew> found it /srv/ftp/
[00:09] <fedeisas> and no logs whatsoever?
[00:09] <smthnew> thanks to all, question is closed for me
[00:09] <blz> I accidentally removed my user on a headless server from the sudo group and now I have no root privileges whatsoever on my machine.  What can I do to rectify this?
[00:09] <stewart_> how are you defining the virtual host <VirtualHost *:80>
[00:09] <stewart_>  then with ServerName www.example.com then the normal stuff and </VirtualHost>
[00:10] <codephobic> fedeisas, I think I have found something in the access.log
[00:10] <Jordan_U> blz: Are you able to physically access the server?
[00:10] <stewart_> and in ports.conf make sure you have NameVirtualHost *:80
[00:10] <codephobic> the log indicates the localhost ip (<IP_ADDRESS>) as the ip that chrome is requesting
[00:10] <blz> Jordan_U, yes, otherwise I'd be on #suicide  ^^
[00:11] <codephobic> but I setup the hosts file for my local network ip (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:11] <codephobic> Would this be some default apache config issues
[00:11] <codephobic> that makes it listen on localhost only?
[00:11] <fedeisas> no
[00:11] <codephobic> still doesn't make sense to me though
[00:11] <codephobic> ah
[00:11] <fedeisas> /etc/hosts
[00:11] <fedeisas> is that ok?
[00:11] <codephobic> yep
[00:12] <fedeisas> are you accesing via url or ip?
[00:12] <codephobic> both
[00:12] <ubuntuaddicted> i try to go to  tty1 session so that I can kill gdm so I can install the nvidia 319.60 but my tty1 session is a black screen with no words. who can help me fix this?
[00:12] <codephobic> just tried my network IP
[00:12] <blz> Jordan_U, so what should I be doing?
[00:12] <codephobic> get directed to the default apache web page
[00:12] <fedeisas> if no virtualhost can match you server name it'll go to the default apache page
[00:12] <stewart_> if you question is can you ping the name www.example.com from your apache server and if no then yes you need to add it to /etc/hosts
[00:12] <fedeisas> try to change one of your virtual hosts to capture ALL
[00:13] <fedeisas> and disable the rest
[00:13] <SunTsu> codephobic: please pastebin the output of httpd -S
[00:13] <codephobic> fedeisas, yeah that's what's happening but I can't seem to work out why
[00:13] <codephobic> SunTsu, one moment, I'll just check that out
[00:13] <fedeisas> use pastebin to show us your virtualhosts file
[00:13] <codephobic> k
[00:13] <SunTsu> codephobic: httpd -S | pastebinit should do the trick
[00:13] <stewart_> and include /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[00:14] <ubuntuaddicted> is there some trick to getting tty1 sessions working with the nvidia binary drivers? mine is just a black screen, all 6 of them
[00:15] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: works for me, always did
[00:15] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, you're using grub2?
[00:15] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: yeah
[00:15] <bootkiller> Hi, shouldn't radeon UVD work out-of-the-box on 13.10?
[00:15] <fedeisas> I just wanna share with you that after fighting for 5 hours with chgrp and chmod, I've found setfacl and now IM HAPPY
[00:16] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, i don't recall ever having an issue either but recently started using an HDTV via VGA cause my monitor died. would that have any effect?
[00:16] <codephobic> SunTsu, "command httpd -S" not found :(
[00:16] <codephobic> http://pastebin.com/LpbEPFJM << one of my virtual hosts
[00:17] <codephobic> fedeisas, I've pasted up my config file: http://pastebin.com/LpbEPFJM
[00:17] <SunTsu> codephobic: er, sorry, it's apache2 on ubuntu
[00:17] <codephobic> SunTsu, yes
[00:17] <SunTsu> codephobic: therefore apache2 -S ...
[00:17] <codephobic> ah
[00:17] <codephobic> lol
[00:17] <codephobic> k
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: are accessing these locally?
[00:18] <blz> I accidentally removed my user on a headless server from the sudo group and now I have no root privileges whatsoever on my machine.  What can I do to rectify this?  I have physical access to the machine
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> as in are you on the machine that apache is running?
[00:18] <graphiteuser> Hello
[00:18] <codephobic> I'm accessing them both locally and through my network ip (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[00:19] <graphiteuser> I have here a laptop running ubuntu which I'm attempting to use to diagnose a problem with a SATA windows boot disk, which I've attached via USB. It isn't popping up as a filesystem; where can I check to see if it's being seen at all?
[00:19] <codephobic> SunTsu, this is the pastebin output of apache2 -S: http://pastebin.com/4DFewjzH
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> blz: if you have physical access to the machine and can boot a rescue disk, mount the filesystem, open /etc/group and add your user to the sudo group
[00:20] <graphiteuser> I guess I'm looking for the linux equivalent of the Disk Management thing in windows, if such a thing exists.
[00:20] <blz> hitsujiTMO, rescue disk?  As in a live cd?
[00:20] <blz> or something different?
[00:20] <SunTsu> codephobic: doesn't look like apache is too happy about your config... "Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf"
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> blz yes
[00:21] <stewart_> I believe the servername should match codephobic
[00:21] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, first install ntfs-3g for access ntfs partitions
[00:21] <SunTsu> blz: you could use init=sh as a kernel option when booting up
[00:21] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg
[00:21] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: Ah is that not available by default?
[00:21] <blz> SunTsu, that sounds like a palatable option.  How do I do that?
[00:22] <stewart_> codephobic ServerName  www.testing.dev
[00:22] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, nope, sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[00:22] <graphiteuser> oh boy, apt
[00:22] <graphiteuser> here we go :(
[00:22] <codephobic> I'm just opening the file now, gonna check that line
[00:22] <moppy> what is the version of Nautilus in saucy please?
[00:22] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg ??
[00:23] <blz> SunTsu, note that this is ubuntu server, in case it makes a difference
[00:23] <codephobic> stewart_, one mo. I'll just read the line for the above error.
[00:23] <SunTsu> blz: edit your grub command line, add init=/bin/sh to it and boot that thing. Do "mount -o rw /; mount -a", change /etc/group to your liking, do "sync", reboot
[00:23] <graphiteuser> "ntfs-3g is already the newest version"
[00:23] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, then use some forensic tools , this page may be any help >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[00:23] <blz> SunTsu, and editing the grub command line doesn't require root priviledges?
[00:23] <BrianH> graphiteuser: it doesn't show listed under Disks?
[00:24] <graphiteuser> I'm not so much after data recovery, I can do that on a windows box. I just want to see if the thing is still a valid SSD>
[00:24] <codephobic> SunTsu, I don't ... understand this,  line #74 "Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default"
[00:24] <SunTsu> blz: no, it might require a password if you set one in grub, else you can do it
[00:24] <codephobic> stewart_, sorry could you explain the server name point?
[00:24] <graphiteuser> If I just type "mount", I get a list of mounted things, none of which looks like my SSD.
[00:25] <blz> SunTsu, okay, thank you
[00:25] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, your ssd should be available in nautilus filemanager standard.
[00:25] <Jordan_U> blz: SunTsu: It's much easier and more practical to just boot the recovery mode entry in the grub menu.
[00:25] <SunTsu> blz: btw.: http://www.softpanorama.org/Commercial_linuxes/Startup_and_shutdown/root_password_recovery.shtml
[00:26] <graphiteuser> by nautilus do you mean just a normal file browser window?
[00:26] <blz> SunTsu, thanks
[00:26] <graphiteuser> there's nothing in the left pane that looks like my SSD.
[00:26] <BrianH> graphiteuser: are you using a graphical installation of Ubuntu?
[00:26] <wolfy1339> how do i lock the directory /var/lib/dpkg ??
[00:26] <codephobic> stewart_, are you referring to the virtualhost config file pastebin? should I add "www." infront of the server name that I set?
[00:26] <blz> Jordan_U, hmm I never noticed it on this server, but maybe that's because it's been running headless for so long.  I'll give that a shot first, else try SunTsu's solution
[00:26] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Good grief I hope so :)
[00:26] <stewart_> codephobic Ok so SeverName will be www.example.com then you can have your ServerAlias as example.com or even add your ip address of the server <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:27] <SunTsu> Jordan_U: yeah, or try single user mode
[00:27] <blz> U
[00:27] <SunTsu> blz: the page I pasted has some things you can try on it
[00:27] <blz> SunTsu, thanks!
[00:27] <codephobic> stewart_, ok, I'll give that a go. one mo.
[00:27] <graphiteuser> Anyway, I see no indication that my SSD has been mounted, but I am aware that USB things occasionally don't mount automatically.
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: you don't    what exctly are you trying to do?
[00:27] <stewart_> so the servername is inforcing the direct name and alias will be subdomains, ips and abbreviations of your domain name
[00:27] <Jordan_U> SunTsu: blz: The recovery mode entry is under the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" submenu on newer Ubuntu versions, and it starts in single user mode.
[00:28] <BrianH> graphiteuser: Open a terminal window and type "gnome-disks" and hit enter
[00:28] <subcool> Ok, im back..
[00:28] <BrianH> You can also find it by searching for "Disk" in the Unity search bar.
[00:28] <graphiteuser> gnome-disks: command not found
[00:28] <codephobic> stewart_, doesn't seem to have made any difference :(
[00:28] <BrianH> graphiteuser: what version of Ubuntu you using?
[00:29] <graphiteuser> No idea. How do If ind out?
[00:29] <subcool> SunTsu, the zfs didnt work.
[00:29] <blz> Jordan_U, this is ubuntu precise server ... should be newer enough, I hope
[00:29] <BrianH> graphiteuser: try "palimpsest"
[00:29] <graphiteuser> Aha
[00:29] <DenSaakalte> Guys, I ask again... Upgrading to 13.10 broke direct rendering, any guesses as to what I should check?
[00:29] <BrianH> graphiteuser: You must be on 12.04 or older then
[00:29] <graphiteuser> I can't remember. I just threw ubuntu on this netbook because win7 was slow.
[00:30] <BrianH> graphiteuser: no worries.  You could also install gparted if you need to partition the drives.
[00:30] <graphiteuser> It does claim that the main partition is ext4.
[00:30] <graphiteuser> Which is... inaccurate.
[00:30] <blz> Jordan_U, I'm only getting the plymouth splay screen and then it drops to a shell
[00:30] <subcool> SunTsu, what i dont understand is, idc if its ZFS. i need to mount it as a HDD not a ZFS or ext4. i have to run a recovery disk on it to retrieve the information from ext4 and ntfs.
[00:30] <blz> Jordan_U, how do I bring up the advanced options / recovery menu in 12.04?
[00:31] <codephobic> SunTsu, some updated error.log output: http://pastebin.com/qXn8Cs9Y
[00:31] <graphiteuser> Hmm. None of the things in this disk management util suggest any probems with the disk.
[00:31] <graphiteuser> I fear the win7 install has simply died, which is a real PITA.
[00:31] <codephobic> (error.log and access.log at /var/logs/apache2/ update veeery slowly. I just got updates now, for actions I took minutes ago)
[00:31]  * graphiteuser grumbles
[00:32] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, i was trying to install a package but this error in the console came up
[00:32] <fedeisas> codephobic your virtualhost file ends in .conf?
[00:32] <stewart_> should also make sure you can ping www.example.com from your apache server
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: what was the exact command you typed?
[00:33] <graphiteuser> I'm assuming it would be an extremely bad idea to hit the "check file system" button on a disk whose filesystem has been misidentified.
[00:33] <stewart_> in ports.conf is the main apache config where you need to specify named hosts and ports that are open
[00:33] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, sudo apt-get install wine1.4-i386
[00:34] <BrianH> graphiteuser: Why not just wipe it and reinstall the OS?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: more than likely something else has locked the file ... try again
[00:34] <chare> what is was that stupid IBUS update message i saw after booting up
[00:34] <wolfy1339> i did try again multiple times already
[00:35] <Jordan_U> blz: Hold shift during boot, or for UEFI Systems press escape repeatedly during boot.
[00:35] <graphiteuser> BrianH: I would, but reinstalling all the apps is a massive pain in somewhere I'd rather not have pain.
[00:35] <blz> Jordan_U, haha just figured it out myself =)  Now that I'm at a root terminal, should I just do usermod -G root username ?
[00:35] <fedeisas> codephobic also:  AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[00:35] <stewart_> then you also need to make the configs active within sites-available so you should ls sites-enabled and make sure there enabled
[00:35] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:36] <fedeisas> codephobic also:   AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[00:36] <codephobic> fedeisas, nope just testing.dev
[00:36] <fedeisas> please paste your apache2.conf
[00:36] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: is update manager opened, or software center or synapics paxkage manager?
[00:36] <graphiteuser> I fear it's the only way out, unfortunately.
[00:36] <wolfy1339> hitsujiTMO, no
[00:36] <BrianH> graphiteuser: It happens.  Be sure to image the HDD next time.
[00:36] <fedeisas> in the mean time, rename your virtualhost to testing.dev.conf, as it is the new naming standard
[00:36] <blz> oh geez, I see what caused this mess... I did usermod -G instead of usermod -aG
[00:36] <blz> FFS...
[00:36] <fedeisas> your apache2.conf is including sites-enabled/*.conf
[00:37] <graphiteuser> wonder if I can recover stuff from my desktop...
[00:37] <codephobic> fedeisas,  line #74 "Mutex file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR} default"
[00:37] <graphiteuser> what's weird is that it's seen the disk but not mounted it.
[00:37] <graphiteuser> Possibly because it's misidentified the filesystem.
[00:37] <codephobic> fedeisas, nope, just 000-default.conf and default-ssl.conf
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: run: sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:37] <Jordan_U> blz: No, that would remove you from all other groups, and add you to the "root" group, which won't help you at all (and is likely a bad idea for other reasons).
[00:38] <fedeisas> codephobic please paste apache2.conf
[00:38] <codephobic> ah
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: install ntfs-3g if the drive is ntfs formatted
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[00:38] <codephobic> fedeisas, sorry, didn't see that post.
[00:38] <codephobic> one momem.
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, yeah I just realized that's what got me into this mess in the first place
[00:38] <codephobic> moment*
[00:38] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Apt claims it's already up to date.
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, I think I did a usermod -G on the user in question
[00:38] <BrianH> graphiteuser: what happens when you mount the drive?
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> wolfy1339: then try to install the package again
[00:38] <blz> Jordan_U, on a related note... I tried usermod -aG sudo username from the root terminal in recoverymod but it's complaining that it can't lock /etc/passwd
[00:39] <graphiteuser> how would I do that
[00:39] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[00:39] <graphiteuser> Oh. No. Crap. Wait.
[00:39] <BrianH> graphiteuser: read the link I posted.  It'll tell you.
[00:39] <esde> ive got a machine thats got an ssd and a large slave hdd, i'd like to setup a linux desktop os on the ssd and use the slave for storage. the slave hdd already has content on it, the drive is formatted NTFS, will i be able to see and use that data or will i need to migrate the data and format first?
[00:39] <graphiteuser> This laptop has an identical 128GB SSD in it.
[00:39] <graphiteuser> I mistook that SSD for the one under test.
[00:39]  * graphiteuser facepalms
[00:40] <esde> also, are there any special configuration for an ssd installation of ubuntu?
[00:40] <Jordan_U> blz: mount -o remount,rw /
[00:40] <SWATLLAMA> Hello.
[00:40] <graphiteuser> So no, there's no sign of it seeing my dodgy ssd at all.
[00:40] <blz> Jordan_U, okay, thanks
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> esde, Linux sees ntfs with no problem
[00:40] <Jordan_U> blz: You're welcome.
[00:40] <codephobic> fedeisas, http://pastebin.com/Xw6XnzsL
[00:40] <SWATLLAMA> Are there any instructions to install mate in Ssaucy? I know the Saucy package is up, but no instructions as of noow that I could find.
[00:40] <esde> sweet, thanks!
[00:40] <chare> wtf is this amazon shit in the dash, HOW DO I REMOVE THAT SHIT
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> !language | chare
[00:41] <BrianH> chare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[00:41] <Jordan_U> !shopping | chare
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> chare, take you meds and settle down.
[00:41] <graphiteuser> I seem to recall years ago we used to look at /var/log/messages for information on recently connected devices.
[00:42] <OerHeks> SWATLLAMA, mate is not supported here, it is a mint DE
[00:42] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, well I added this line to my grub file and now my tty's work again. GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text
[00:42] <SWATLLAMA> There are Ubuntu packages for mate.
[00:42] <esde> once I install ubuntu will virtualbox be able to virtualize a windows 7 installation using all 8 processor threads? what kind of compatibility issues and limitations do i need to consider running a windows 7 guest?
[00:42] <FiremanEd> SWATLLAMA: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download
[00:42] <TripSec> Anyone here dl john?
[00:42] <SWATLLAMA> Oh thanks, FiremanEd. I didn't know the 13.10 instructions were up now.
[00:42] <codephobic> fedeisas, I think I may have found a (the?) problem.
[00:42] <FiremanEd> They are.
[00:43] <SunTsu> ubuntuaddicted: good to know, I'll keep that in mind if I ever encounter a problem like this
[00:43] <hylian> TripSec: dl john? haven't downloaded john lately... ??
[00:43] <fedeisas> what was it?
[00:43] <codephobic> apache2.conf notes that I need to make some alterations if I am hosting my /www on a nfs share...
[00:43] <chare> uhh this didn't work in Saucy....... sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[00:43] <blz> Jordan_U, SunTsu ok we seem to be back in business
[00:43] <codephobic> (as far as I understand it)
[00:43] <blz> many thanks for putting up with a frazzled user =)
[00:43] <TripSec> hylian, I am trying to dl it but can't
[00:43] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, also this line is uncommented, not sure what impact if any that had. GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[00:43] <Jordan_U> blz: No problem :) You're welcome.
[00:43] <graphiteuser> OK, so I have no sign of this usb-attached SSD at all. Any suggestions as to where I could look to see if it's been recognised on any level?
[00:43] <codephobic> my /media/local/one/www << is a network share directory
[00:43] <hylian> TripSec: dl what? "john"??
[00:44] <SunTsu> esde: Maybe you should ask somewhere windows and/or vbox centric when it comes down to running linux on vbox
[00:44] <codephobic> maybe that's causing some problems?
[00:44] <SunTsu> er running windows on vbox
[00:44] <ubuntuaddicted> SunTsu, this is still commented out as well. #GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480
[00:44] <BrianH> graphiteuser: dmesg
[00:44] <blz> Jordan_U, and on the plus side, I learned that useradd -G is not the same as useradd -aG
[00:44] <anonymous_> todos hablan en ingles?
[00:44] <TripSec> hylian, john the ripper
[00:44] <codephobic> (ones I did not have before 13.10)
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you there?
[00:44] <blz> Jordan_U, I wonder how often people get caught with that
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> esde, Vbox will run windows if it is a oem it will not work however.
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: you're running on ubuntu 13.04 or 13.10?
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> chare: system settings -> security & privacy -> search -> disable that option
[00:44] <SunTsu> !es | anonymous_
[00:44] <graphiteuser> oh yeah
[00:44] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, 13.04
[00:44] <graphiteuser> looks like it's seen it
[00:44] <SWATLLAMA> How do you guys feel abuot Unity? I"ve never liked it.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> "attached scsi generic sg1 type 0" etc
[00:45] <chare> hitsujiTMO its still installed though
[00:45] <chare> HITSUJItmo i want it gone
[00:45] <blz> hahaha roots!  Sweet delicious roots!
[00:45] <blz> alright I'm off to bed
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> esde,There is a #vbox channel.
[00:45] <blz> goodnight all!
[00:45] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Also just finished the upgrade command. Had to wait for the LoL players to be between matches or I'd lag them to heck and back.
[00:45] <OerHeks> chare read the documentation carefull
[00:45] <Jordan_U> SWATLLAMA: Try #ubuntu-offtopic for people's opinions on software, this channel is for tech support only.
[00:45] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: oh okay *whew* cuz if you were running on 13.10 then you'd just have to install the libg3dvl driver
[00:45] <graphiteuser> Hm.
[00:45] <hylian> TripSec: ahh, never heard of it, sorry... i don't see it in the apps section of ubuntu https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[00:45] <SWATLLAMA> Okay, sozzy Jordan.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> I'm not sure if it's seen the disk, or just the USB SATA dongle.
[00:45] <graphiteuser> Oh no, apparently it has. It's listing block information.
[00:46] <esde> wilee-nilee, im virtualizing ubuntu on windows right now and my processor doesnt seem to support native multicore virtualization, so im limited to 32 bit installations. my question was if linux somehow worked around that hardware limitation
[00:46] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, That does sound a lot simpler. Lol
[00:46] <esde> thanks
[00:46] <graphiteuser> Suggests it's become sdb. is there some way I can attempt to mount it, ideally readonly?
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: aye, wait so you restarted your computer?
[00:46] <zeifer> Not yet
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and you booted just fine?
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> oh
[00:46] <Prock81> dang Now 13.10 is out, and just yesterday i switched to FreeBSD, not even your update can convince me now that i see the real power of FreeBSD
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> well you need to restart for updates to take affect, zeifer
[00:46] <stewart_> codephobic i'm having some ssl issues arrrg so i know how you feel LOL
[00:46] <IdleOne> chare: http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature?rq=1
[00:46] <BrianH> graphiteuser: anything under /media?
[00:46] <SunTsu> esde: this basically is a vbox question and people concerned with vbox probably can give you better answers
[00:46] <zeifer> They're being setup right now, Ari-Yang
[00:46] <OerHeks> chare read the documentation carefull >>> You then need to log out and back in.
[00:46] <codephobic> stewart_, ah sorry to hear that.
[00:47] <graphiteuser> BrianH: empty
[00:47] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: ah okay
[00:47] <graphiteuser> I don't think it's automounted, but I'm used to linux not automounting USB things.
[00:47] <graphiteuser> It may also be marked dirty by windows as the machine crashed on its last boot.
[00:47] <codephobic> overall, funnily enough, I'm happier with my experience with 13.10 (so far).
[00:47] <stewart_> i'm suggestion you cheat codephobic but you could always install webmin
[00:47] <graphiteuser> I've had this issue before, you end up having to pass some sort of "force" arg to mount.
[00:47] <codephobic> mostly because 13.04 crashed every other reboot last time round :(
[00:48] <SunTsu> esde: but I have used 4 virtual CPUs with vbox running on debian and ubuntu
[00:48] <BrianH> graphiteuser: you have to change your fstab, which is outlined in the link I gave you on mounting windows drives.
[00:48] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Can I not simply mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb or whatever
[00:49] <codephobic> stewart_, lol ... I'll reinstall apache2 first ... I have another OS as back up (openSuse), which I can carry on work at... might as well learn use this opportunity to learn a little bit more about the OS and apache2.
[00:50] <BrianH> graphiteuser: no, use sudo blkid and find the device location, then edit your /etc/fstab to include the drive.
[00:50] <graphiteuser> Eesh, when did that change
[00:50] <graphiteuser> seems like a pretty fundamental change there.
[00:51] <codephobic> what do you guys think about me dissiting testing.dev and then re-a2ensiting it?
[00:51] <graphiteuser> sudo blkid just sits there doing nothing. doesn't even ask for a password.
[00:51] <codephobic> I know it's the equivalent of "switch it off, and then on again" ... but ... ?
[00:51] <stewart_> codephobic a2dissite <name> and a2ensite <name>
[00:52] <codephobic> lol, stewart_ just what I'm thinking of doing now.
[00:52] <graphiteuser> what is blkid supposed to do
[00:52] <codephobic> ERROR: Site testing.dev does not exist!
[00:52] <codephobic> :(
[00:53] <codephobic> I don't get that at all
[00:53] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> and: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available
[00:54] <hitsujiTMO> and: ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enabled                 sorry
[00:54] <asdf6789> hi all.  i upgraded my "command line install" 13.04 to 13.10 and lost audio.  aplay -l shows my adapter.  alsamixer shows volumes are set and not muted.  any ideas?
[00:54] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I've finished all of the commands you pastebinned for me. Should be good to go, right?
[00:54] <BrianH> graphiteuser: it lists block device information
[00:54] <SWATLLAMA> Should there be any text files i have to edit to change my desktop environment?
[00:54] <graphiteuser> BrianH: I fear it doesn't.
[00:54] <graphiteuser> It just sits there. Blinking cursor.
[00:55] <BrianH> graphiteuser: ctrl+C and try again?
[00:55] <BrianH> graphiteuser: How much linux experience do you have?
[00:55] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/1D5FyhN3
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: aye, reboot
[00:55] <zeifer> Alright, wish me luck. :)
[00:55] <Ari-Yang> gl
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> any hardware damage is not my fault btw
[00:56] <jrib> SWATLLAMA: no, just change the setting at your login screen
[00:56]  * Ari-Yang runs
[00:56] <graphiteuser> BrianH: Precious little, and years ago.
[00:56] <Ari-Yang> :b
[00:56] <graphiteuser> ctrl_c simply types ^C into the shell
[00:56] <SWATLLAMA> Okay, thanks. I read somewhere that I had to change something for 12.04, but never experienced it with LXDE
[00:56] <graphiteuser> Hm
[00:56] <graphiteuser> blkid returns immediately I unplug the suspect drive.
[00:56] <codephobic> I can't run a2ensite or a2dissite at all.
[00:57] <graphiteuser> that's... a bit broke.
[00:57] <codephobic> I keep getting "ERROR: site <site> does not exist!"
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you post your apache2.conf plz
[00:58] <graphiteuser> OK, so, new problem. My drive causes "blkid" to hang. Any ideas?
[00:58] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, blkid on ntfs?
[00:58] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/Xw6XnzsL
[00:58] <blz> Hello again, how can I make a sevice start automatically at boot time?  The service can be started with `sudo service servicename start`.
[00:58] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: Well, it should be an NTFS drive, yes.
[00:59] <papatate> vendre
[00:59] <stewart_> getting dinner one moment
[01:00] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, do you use " sudo blkid " ?
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[01:00] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I'm back up and running again. Only noticeable difference so far is that it seemed to take longer to get to login and from login to desktop.
[01:00] <graphiteuser> OerHeks: I must admit I previously used "sudo bash"
[01:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, "Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l"
[01:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: what's the output of dmesg | grep dpm
[01:01] <stewart_> I'm curious why you would ask that
[01:01] <zeifer> sec
[01:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I've never heard of that file before - is it a bug report thing?
[01:01] <stewart_> your os version
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: how exactly did you install apache2 ?
[01:01] <BrianH> Is there a non-gtk version of usb-creator?
[01:01] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and pastebin the output of glxinfo | grep -i opengl and uname -a
[01:01] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, dmesg | grep dpm
[01:01] <zeifer> [    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.5-031105-generic root=UUID=cfb17b58-fb23-455c-b605-240f3bc9bb8b ro quiet splash radeon.dpm=1 vt.handoff=7
[01:01] <zeifer> [   13.844080] [drm] radeon: dpm initialized
[01:02] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I used apt-get install, a few upgrades ago.
[01:02] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, oke, that should work. ( but personally i would use UBcd for ntfs issues)
[01:02] <graphiteuser> dmesg does say "Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block nn" a few times.
[01:02] <codephobic> just did my standard install, apache2, mysql, php
[01:02] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: nice, you should notice that your laptop's temp should decrease, now pastebin the outputs of the commands I just told you
[01:02] <codephobic> then configured virtualhosts and that was it
[01:02] <graphiteuser> ubcd?
[01:02] <codephobic> nothing ambitious (I thought)
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: where did you get your apache2.conf from?
[01:03] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, that's the conf that had been there all along, I don't think I've ever added to/modified it.
[01:03] <djzn> what is the BEST practice: adsl modem in BRIDGE mode and router in PPPOE/DHCP mode or the inverse?
[01:03] <OerHeks> graphiteuser, ultimate boot cd, http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  lots of tools for bootsectors/mbr/partition recovery
[01:03] <graphiteuser> hmm
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> thats not the normal ubuntu apache conf    ...
[01:03] <graphiteuser> no CD-ROM drive on this box.
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> give me a few min, i'll install 13.10 in a vm and see if it generates that apache2 conf
[01:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, oh, just remembered. I think I agreed to let ubuntu change it as part of the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10
[01:04] <codephobic> k, thanks :)
[01:05] <graphiteuser> I'm assuming this is bad: http://pastebin.com/r4dw7DxD
[01:05] <djzn> how can I edit and save networking setting in Live CD
[01:05] <codephobic> I'll check the apache2.conf on my 12.04 vm too
[01:05] <SunTsu> djzn: I don't see how this is an ubuntu question but anyway: Do the ppp session where you have the most control over what's going on, which should be your router
[01:05] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, http://pastebin.com/5MYjVjDf
[01:06] <djzn> SunTsu, the art of war ? lol
[01:06] <SunTsu> djzn: whatever amuses you
[01:06] <djzn> SunTsu, thanks, yes, i got the router as the pppoe dhcp
[01:06] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: everything looks fine, so now I'd test out how video game performance is
[01:07] <darkangel> so hows 13.10 doin for ya guys?
[01:07] <djzn> SunTsu, but ubuntu is not detecting wired network unless i manually set configuration... and i have to save it before installing, and it wont let me
[01:07] <zeifer> glxgears seems limited to 60fps so I don't see any increases or decreases there. Do you have any suggestions for a quick test?
[01:07] <SunTsu> zeifer: nexuiz?
[01:08] <OerHeks> djzn, start the live mode first, fix wireless and hit the install button on your desktop
[01:08] <OerHeks> c/wireless/wired
[01:08] <codephobic> brb, need a coffee (2am here).
[01:08] <codephobic> thank you guys for helping :)
[01:09] <graphiteuser> out of a morbid sense of interest does that dmesg output suggest the drive itself is damaged or just the FS?
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I thought you had steam installed :|
[01:09] <codephobic> wouldn't be able to keep using ubuntu without the help I've received from here.
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> didn't you say that you wanted good performance with steam games or something?
[01:10] <zeifer> Steam was failing due to lack or improper graphics so far, Ari-Yang, I could try installing it now.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: okay, good luck. Let me know how it works out
[01:10] <zeifer> Will do
[01:10] <blz> Hello again, how can I make a sevice start automatically at boot time?  The service can be started with `sudo service servicename start`.
[01:10] <BrianH> Anyone try using usb-creator-gtk on 13.10 for a 64bit ISO?  I can't get past the bootloader installation without it crashing, and when I use unetbootin I get "No operating system" error when booting.
[01:11] <mayhew> blz: sudo service NAME enable (I think)
[01:11] <mdkwlan> BrianH: ave you tried unetbootin?
[01:11] <blz> mayhew, sounds familiar.  I'll give that a try, thanks!
[01:11] <BrianH> mdkwlan: yes, it'll succeed and when I boot the system from the drive it says "No operating system found"
[01:12]  * papatate slaps papatate around a bit with a large trout
[01:12] <graphiteuser> Does this: http://pastebin.com/r4dw7DxD suggest that the drive is broken, or just the filesystem?
[01:12] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Check the md5 sum of the iso to make sure that it's not the problem then try another usb pen drive.
[01:12] <BrianH> I've also tried running usb-creator-gtk with --allow-system-internal and it just crashes when I select the USB drive and click start.
[01:13] <BrianH> mdkwlan: The checksum is good.  Should I preformat the drive to a specific format beforehand?
[01:14] <mdkwlan> BrianH: It should be fat32 but I think the tool formats it for you.
[01:14] <codephobic> back
[01:14] <jrib> how can I make right alt key behave as compose key when pressed by itself but act as regular alt when pressed in combination with any other key?
[01:14] <mdkwlan> BrianH: What version of Ubuntu are you are when you
[01:14] <mdkwlan> you
[01:15] <mdkwlan> wow sorry. you're using the tool. Damn enter key. BrianH.
[01:15] <BrianH> mdkwlan: heh, I just ran sudo usb-creator-gtk  from the terminal (without args) and now it's past the bootloader and setting up the persistance file.
[01:15] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I'm on 13.10
[01:16] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I updated the system from 13.04, but I decided I want to just wipe this thing clean with a fresh install.   It was working will till yesterday.. today it crashes just after it starts.. have tried to remove and reinstall it but still doesn't work
[01:16] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I assume it's been ported for that version? I'm just seeing a bug report for 12.04.3 but idk if it's still on 13.10
[01:17] <jrib> Mujee: start it from a terminal
[01:17] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I found the same bug report.  It seems to have been around for a long time.
[01:17] <Mujee> tried but it still crashes
[01:17] <jrib> Mujee: pastebin terminal output
[01:18] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Humm. Yea I keep seeing stuff about segfaults, so Idk. I've only used unetbootin and it's worked fine for me.
[01:18] <Mujee> jrib: I have tried but it still crashes
[01:18] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Has it given any error messages?
[01:18] <jrib> Mujee: of course.  But pastebin the output.
[01:18] <jboii> hi
[01:19] <BrianH> mdkwlan: nothing yet.  Its stuck at making a persistance file and says "100%" while the progress bar bounces back and forth.  I'll give it a few minutes to figure it out.
[01:19] <jboii> how can i install bz2 files?
[01:19] <jboii> its an update to vuze
[01:19] <jrib> jboii: bz2 is a compressed file.  It can be anything.
[01:19] <BrianH> aaaand it just crashed.
[01:19] <jboii> how can i install it ?
[01:19] <jrib> jboii: vuze is in the repositories.  Why not use the version in the repositories?
[01:19] <jboii> i have downloaded the file
[01:19] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, Steam is installing and updating as expected. Know anything about sound issues alsa/pulseaudio?
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea the presistance file is used to maintain it across use on the stick. Have you tried using dd to write it to the usb stick?
[01:20] <jboii> the theme is not nice
[01:20] <BrianH> it just says that it closed unexpectedly and nothing logged in the terminal.
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: It's an older method
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> !pulseaudio | zeifer
[01:20] <jrib> jboii: you can't change the theme?
[01:20] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/CFzxMhg8
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> !alsa > zeifer
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: no I don't, read the links? also let me know how gaming performance is
[01:20] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: and you should state what sound issues you have
[01:20] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I have a link if you're interested in it.
[01:21] <BrianH> mdkwlan: No, I haven't.  Toss me the link. :)
[01:21] <mdkwlan> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-iso-to-usb-device
[01:21] <jrib> Mujee: create a fresh new user and see if you can replicate the issue on the new account
[01:22] <mdkwlan> BrianH: The hardest part of that is finding out the mounting point which is easy to find with gparted.
[01:22] <BrianH> mdkwlan: thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[01:22] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Np man. Hope it works for you :)
[01:23] <BrianH> mdkwlan: This won't install grub on the drive though, correct?
[01:23] <bray90820> Would this be a good place to talk about ubuntu touch
[01:23] <mdkwlan> BrianH: No. It will write it to the usb as if it's a CD/DVD
[01:24] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Gonna try booting the drive, since it seemed to have made it past grub before it failed.
[01:25] <BrianH> otherwise, I'll give dd a shot.
[01:25] <Smedles> hi all - been having issues with Ubuntu 13.10 with resume the last week or two
[01:25] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea it seems to be a problem with that presistance file and to be fair that's not needed to use the usb stick.
[01:25] <Smedles> sometimes after resume I've had no keyboard or video corruption, I was running the nvidia proprietary drivers and reverted to nouveau which didn't help
[01:26] <Smedles> did a fresh install today (kept /home) but same symptoms
[01:26] <Smedles> after resume, mouse pointer would work but keyboard unresponsive - after a few minutes it went back to a logon prompt, logged on but desktop is corrupted
[01:26] <craigbass1976> anyone know of a vnc client that allows me to scale the window so it will fit on my desktop?
[01:27] <mdkwlan> craigbass1976: rdesktop
[01:27] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yeah, I thought I told it not to, but maybe when I was speeding through it the last time I might have left it at the defaults.  Still same "Missing OS" error.  I'll give it one more shot without persistance, then dd.  Ugh ... all this because the CD itself won't work past the language selection during install, lol
[01:27] <craigbass1976> mdkwlan, that works over vnc potocol?
[01:27] <Mujee> jrib: yes the problem still exists with the new user too
[01:27] <mdkwlan> craigbass1976: Yup. VNC and RDP
[01:28] <dubone> anyone know what it means when guest vm won't start and has a bunch of these errors? virAuditSend:135 : Failed to send audit message virt=kvm resrc=disk reason=start
[01:28] <jrib> Mujee: apt-cache policy software-center
[01:29] <zykotick9> dubone: you might want to try #virt on irc.oftc.net (i assume you are using virt-manager)
[01:29] <dubone> zykotick9: thanks
[01:29] <advx> Hi All Good Morning
[01:30] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/TMVVYJNQ
[01:30] <mdkwlan> Hello advx.
[01:30] <booh> What's the problem, I'm on 13.04 and I try to do-release-upgrade to 13.10 but it say that there is no update...
[01:30] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[01:30] <advx> Hello ,mdkwlan
[01:30] <BrianH> booh sudo apt-get update ?
[01:30] <jrib> Mujee: check for an open bug and if there isn't one, file one
[01:30] <booh> BrianH, of course done.
[01:30] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, got the vm running?
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> just installing Apache now
[01:31] <BrianH> booh, do-release-upgrade -c
[01:31] <codephobic> cool, thanks for that :)
[01:31] <Smedles> booh: check settings for software update - you may only have update to long term release enabled
[01:31] <Smedles> looks lke Xserver is crashing here
[01:34] <MGMT> someone want to grab me some info from ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css ?
[01:34] <subcool> Hey, i need a gui raid setup utilty.. anyone have suggestions?
[01:34] <SysSU> oh man raid…i need help with that too haha
[01:34] <jrib> MGMT: i imagine that's empty for most...
[01:35] <SysSU> why is Ubuntu 13.04 showing my hardware raid as two drives..and no raid drive?
[01:35] <MGMT> jrib: is yours empty?
[01:35] <jrib> MGMT: i don't have such a file.
[01:35] <subcool> SysSU, i just dont have the concentration to do it all manually. And whats sad, is- everyone suggest lvm; when a good gui for RAID is still hard to find. :/
[01:35] <jrib> MGMT: (ask your real question)
[01:35] <zeifer> Well, Ari-Yang, we've at least got Steam running. So that's progress and I thank you very much for getting me this far. Next up is how I go about getting my audio to play through speakers rather than headphone port.
[01:35] <MGMT> hmmmm... maybe I just have to delete it... what does ubuntu use gtk-2.0 or gtk-3.0?
[01:35] <delinquentme> gs
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: ok, so it seems that apache2 conf is completely different in 13.10
[01:35] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/513Cuw9X usually get this message when i reinstal software center after removing it
[01:36] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, ah
[01:36] <MGMT> jrib: that is my real question... I'm having theme color issues from installing ubuntu over xubuntu and not deleting the home directory
[01:36] <codephobic> hmm, I guess we're stuck as far as to cause/approach now.
[01:36] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: that's good. Now you need to test and see how a video game performs. As for audio, I'm not sure, try asking here?
[01:36] <dubone> SysSU: I have installed Webmin for mdadm for a customer and it seemed to get the job done for them
[01:36] <jrib> MGMT: rename the file and see what changes
[01:36] <codephobic> I'll try completely removing apache2 tomorrow morning and doing a full install again.
[01:36] <MGMT> jrib:  yeah just thought of that lol
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you tell me whats in /etc/apache2/envvars
[01:37] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:37] <poizen> I've installed ubuntu over linux and now i've a huge 900gig partition and i don't know how i should recover my data :( pplease help
[01:37] <SysSU> dubone: what do you mean?
[01:37] <poizen> i meant ubuntu over windows*
[01:37] <MGMT> jrib: do you know the command for refreshing the window manager without loging out and back in?
[01:38] <jrib> MGMT: those changes should probably be recognized when you spawn a new app
[01:38] <dubone> SysSU: sorry that was for subcool
[01:38] <dubone> subcool: I have installed Webmin for mdadm for a customer and it seemed to get the job done for them
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> I have a question... how come when I steam a video with mpv (fork of mplayer2) I get this WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /run/user/x/keyring-SPuOMa/pkcs11: No such file or directory ?
[01:38] <Ari-Yang> how do I prevent that?
[01:38] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/5TW96kff
[01:38] <jrib> MGMT: if not, then no I don't know any command to refresh the wm
[01:38] <dubone> SysSu: graphical raid
[01:39] <MGMT> brb
[01:39] <SysSU> dubone: yea i don't need guy raid..i just need to know why my hardware raid 1 shows up as two disks instead of 1 raid disk or 3 disks (2 disks 1 raid disk).
[01:39] <poizen> guys my hdd has been formatted to ext from ntfs and I want to recover my data.. can anyone help me pleasE?
[01:40] <Mujee> jrib: http://pastebin.com/513Cuw9X usually get this message when i reinstal software center after removing it
[01:40] <jrib> Mujee: I don't think that's important
[01:40] <MGMT> jrib: moving that file fixed it... thanks!
[01:41] <subcool> dubone, oh yea- someone had suggested that for me. I installed it too, but it was.. being... uh.. unuseful? - i think my bridged network adapter is messing up its communication. I couldnt get it to read properly or- um. soething..
[01:41] <jrib> how can I make right alt key behave as compose key when pressed by itself but act as regular alt when pressed in combination with any other key?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you give me your /etc/init.d/apache2
[01:41] <djzn> how do I save edited network setting on live cd session???
[01:42] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:42] <dubone> djzn: search for "persistence" on live CD
[01:43] <OerHeks> jrib right alt key controls hud, that would be a lot of work
[01:43] <djzn> dubone: i just need to edit the connection on the spot so I can install it
[01:43] <jrib> OerHeks: i don't use unity
[01:43] <Ari-Yang> oh I figured it out, /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop is the culprit, just wanted to know why it was doing it...
[01:43] <djzn> dubone: it is not a persistent live cd that i'm doing
[01:43] <jrib> OerHeks: pretend I asked for right ctrl key ;)
[01:43] <codephobic> http://pastebin.com/7a5AeTLu
[01:43] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/7a5AeTLu
[01:43] <BrianH> mdkwlan: attemting with dd now ... will I need to do anything to make the drive bootable afterwards?
[01:43] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Shouldn't need to.
[01:44] <dubone> djzn: not sure then
[01:44] <MGMT> jrib: which WM are you using?
[01:44] <OerHeks> jrib i also was looking for those 2 seperate commands, have not found it yet howto combine them
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: is there an upstart for apache in /etc/init  ?
[01:45] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, not sure what an upstart is?
[01:45] <jrib> OerHeks: if you are desperate it is probably possible with something like xcape, but i want to avoid it for this case
[01:45] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Worked! :)   Thank you much for the help.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: give me output of: ls /etc/init
[01:45] <jrib> OerHeks: https://github.com/alols/xcape
[01:45] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Glad to hear. Let me know if it boots first.
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, there's no apache2.conf in /etc/init/
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, one mo.
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> it could be httpd.con too
[01:46] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yep.  It booted.  But it seems to be stuck at the same point as where the CD did.  I can't get past the "Select a language" screen with the server install.
[01:46] <SunTsu> why would there be a config file in /etc/init?
[01:46] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/yBtuHgEH
[01:47] <jrib> SunTsu: that's where upstart expects init scripts
[01:47] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Humm makes me think that it either a problem with the usb stick or the iso.
[01:47] <MGMT> did they change ubuntu to have 1 workspace by default in 13.10?
[01:47] <BrianH> I'll try another ISO.
[01:47] <ImTheDude> am i connected
[01:47] <SunTsu> jrib: I know, I just wondered why codephobic and hitsujiTMO are looking for a apache2.conf/httpd.conf there
[01:48] <ImTheDude> whats everybody running
[01:48] <zeifer> Can anybody help me get my Compaq CQ62 to play audio through speakers and not just the headset port? All volume levels are maxxed and nothing is muted.
[01:48] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea or just redownload the one you already have.
[01:48] <jrib> SunTsu: oh
[01:48] <Mujee> Hi my software center crashes just after it starts.. I have tried removing and installing it again but it doesn't wok
[01:48] <BrianH> mdkwlan: That's what I meant.
[01:48] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Oh alright. Fair enough. :)
[01:48] <MGMT> zeifer: what happens if you run alsamixer at the command line?
[01:49] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I downloaded it onto my MacBook and the installer worked fine in VirtualBox.  Maybe the one on my server was corrupted.
[01:49] <jrib> SunTsu: I assume apache2 still uses /etc/init.d and hitsujiTMO and codephobic should be looking there (if they are indeed looking for its init script)
[01:49] <MGMT> zeifer: check to see if the speaker in alsamixer says MM below it
[01:49] <zeifer> It pops up as expected, MGMT. And, as I said, nothing is muted and all volume settings are maxxed.
[01:49] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Yea that's really weird then. Have you tried a dif pen drive?
[01:49] <SunTsu> jrib: they were looking for a config file from what I read
[01:50] <zeifer> MGMT, well, mic is muted for obvious reasons.
[01:50] <RankWeis> Hey guys, I'm trying to decide on a linux distro right now
[01:50] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I don't have another available.
[01:50] <RankWeis> I was wondering if any of you had complaints with ubuntu regarding multiple monitors?
[01:50] <mdkwlan> BrianH: There's always another option of burning a disk as well.
[01:50] <SunTsu> RankWeis: then try some of them and decide for the one you liked best
[01:50] <advx> Should I upgrade to 13.10?? or wait for few days..
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> jrib, suntsu, it is, the problem is that codephobic s is exactly the same as what should be there, yet isn't initing apache2 with the envvars from /etc/apache2/envvars
[01:50] <RankWeis> SunTsu: I've tried a bunch, never with multiple monitors
[01:51] <mdkwlan> RankWeis: Yes. I run with a dual monitors but it
[01:51] <codephobic> apache2 is definitely present in /etc/init.d/ (if you're wondering)
[01:51] <mdkwlan> it's not because of ubuntu it's because I have an AMD card.
[01:51] <SunTsu> RankWeis: well, then do that ;) I occasionally run Ubuntu with 3 displays without issues
[01:51] <Tecan> who names a distro "Saucy Salamander"
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> i was looking in /etc/init incase there was something there superceding /etc/init.d
[01:51] <jrib> hitsujiTMO: does he have apache2* in /etc/init or in /etc/init.d, or both?
[01:51] <jrib> hitsujiTMO: ah, ok.
[01:51] <RankWeis> SunTsu: Exactly what I wanted to here. Even windows gets a little frustrated with three sometimes, it's actually the reason I'm switching
[01:51] <mdkwlan> Tecan: Who name's a distro dapper drake or raring ringtail?
[01:51] <RankWeis> hear*
[01:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | Those of you who aren't here for support, hear this
[01:52] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Yeah, I thought it might be because I was booting from a USB3 connected DVD drive.  It's for my rackmount server which doesn't have an internally connected disk drive.
[01:52] <SunTsu> RankWeis: I use 2 external displays for my laptop and it's screen, works great so far
[01:53] <Tecan> shining sunflower would have been better
[01:53] <codephobic> does anyone know if 13.10 removes firestarter completely? I used to have it installed, now - post-upgrade - it's no longer available in dash.
[01:53] <BrianH> mdkwlan: worst case, I could pop off the cover and tap into a SATA port.
[01:53] <mdkwlan> BrianH: This is true.
[01:53] <codephobic> (could that be causing issues with accessing my virtualhosts?)
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: can you give me your /etc/default/apache2 ?
[01:54] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, will do... one mo.
[01:54] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Idk its just me but for my server I run with stable so I wouldn't think of running 13.10
[01:54] <BrianH> mdkwlan: 13.10 is stable now
[01:54] <MGMT> zeifer: what do you get when you do lspci | grep Audio
[01:54] <endxmit> hello all
[01:54] <BrianH> mdkwlan: just released today :P
[01:54] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/jtD7hvdF
[01:54] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Stable in the sense of support. IE LTS or Gentoo hardened.
[01:54] <billsey_> So. I did the upgrade from 13.04 to 13.10 today. Now the system says my monitor is unknown and only gives me 800x600 and 1024x768 for resolutions. How do I fix it to get my old resolution back?
[01:55] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Ah, gotcha.
[01:55] <endxmit> by any chance is anyone running a chromebook with crouton?
[01:55] <BrianH> mdkwlan: It's only my home server I use for messing around.  I virtualize all my VMs anyways.
[01:55] <zeifer> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[01:55] <codephobic> BrianH, that sounds like the policy of not installing a Windows edition until it's had an SP update.
[01:55] <MGMT> billsey_: does using xrandr at the command line show you the resolution you want?
[01:56] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Ah. Yea I use mine for storage. So ISOs movies etc etc.
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[01:56] <billsey_> MGMT: No, it doesn´t.
[01:57] <MGMT> billsey_: give me a sec, I'll find a link to what you'll have to do
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> billsey_:  and whats your video chipset?
[01:57] <BrianH> mdkwlan: Heh, my Plex server is one of the main reasons I'm wiping it.  I installed it on the host system instead of setting up a VM with dedicated access to my Movie drives.
[01:57] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> codephobic: i'm at a loss, seems all the configs / init scripts match
[01:58] <BrianH> codephobic: Yeah, I just don't install Windows unless it's in a VM anyways, haha.
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  checked askubuntu.com ? I recall they having similer questions/answers
[01:58] <MGMT> billsey_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186 <-- that should help/get you in the right direction
[01:58] <somsip> sam113101: you can probably do that with xmodmap
[01:58] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, thanks for the efforts though. I'll try removing apache2 tomorrow morning and then do a clean install. Maybe it'll work ...
[01:59] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Interesting setup. Yea I was thinking of using proxmox to mess around with hardware vm's but Idk I might try 13.10 server out to see if anything has really changed.
[01:59] <MGMT> billsey_: you may need to install proprietary drivers... What kind of video card do you have?
[01:59] <codephobic> thankfully, the vms are working, so I can serve my virtualhosts from them if this can't be resolved.
[01:59] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I'm really interested in setting up OpenStack and getting my hands dirty with Juju.
[01:59] <billsey_> Dr_Willis: CNet says Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900.
[02:00] <codephobic> maybe tomorrow other people will have similar issues and more info will come to light.
[02:00] <mdkwlan> BrianH: Oh hell yea. :)
[02:00] <chare> I got my new Saucy ubuntu working what stuff do I want to do now?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> billsey_:  check 'lspci' output to verify that
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> !manual | chare
[02:00] <billsey_> MGMT: I gather the drivers used in 13.04 have been removed?
[02:00] <zeifer> MGMT, 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) Not sure if you caught that output earlier.
[02:00] <hitsujiTMO> one thing you can try and do is suffix .conf to you soft links in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> chare:  or perhaps read some revies about the release  and stuff like    http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/8-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[02:01] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I just don't know where to start.  I generally deploy all my VMs using VirtualBox.
[02:01] <billsey_> Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[02:01] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, so change testing.dev to testing.dev.conf?
[02:01] <codephobic> I'll give that a go now.
[02:01] <mdkwlan> BrianH: I pmed you so we dont get in trouble lol
[02:01] <BrianH> mdkwlan: I've dabbled with KVM a little bit, but I had a heck of a time with networking in KVM so I just kept using VirtualBox.
[02:01] <hitsujiTMO> yes, in the sites-enabled only is needed
[02:02] <MGMT> zeifer: you don't have HDMI out do you?  is this a laptop?
[02:02] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, sadly doesn't seem to have worked.
[02:02] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: maybe add radeon.audio=1 to GRUB (like how you add radeon.dpm=1) will help?
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> :(
[02:02] <Ari-Yang> in face try that
[02:03] <codephobic> nevermind, I'm sure more info will come up soon enough.
[02:03] <codephobic> never known an issue that ubuntu people don't eventually solve.
[02:04] <zeifer> MGMT, it is a laptop but there's no HDMI out on it.
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> i'm surprised at the drastic change in the default config
[02:04] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, so I can put that in after a space?
[02:04] <codephobic> hitsujiTMO, I was completely oblivious to it until you pointed it out! lol
[02:05] <codephobic> thanks again for the effort :)
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: yes, just make sure it's within the quotes. copy and paste it when you make the change so I can double check
[02:05] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: after, save it, then run sudo update-grub and then reboot
[02:07] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: I'm off to dinner, if I don't see your highlights, I'll just check my log
[02:07] <zeifer> k
[02:07] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1 radeon.dpm=1" <--- like that
[02:07] <jboii> hi
[02:07] <jboii> can someon
[02:08] <jboii> someone help me with this ?
[02:08] <Ari-Yang> !ask | jboii
[02:08] <MGMT> zeifer: I had a similar issue at one point.  it ended up being that it was recognizing a different driver or something. Had to tell it the right one, theres an option for this in alsamixer
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[02:08] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: if you're using pulseaudio then maybe you should uninstall it and use alsa
[02:08] <jboii> i am gonna edit vuze , using qt 4 designer , how can i find the UI file
[02:09] <jboii> can someone help me findin this file ?
[02:09] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, I grabbed pulseaudio because the problem existed before I started using it. Pulse didn't change it.
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> oh
[02:09] <Ari-Yang> well then try the radeon.audio=1 then reboot
[02:10] <zeifer> What was the path to that file again?
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> /etc/default/grub
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> afk
[02:10] <billsey_> MGMT: The link got my display showing in the right resolution fine, but the instructions for making it permanent are broken. There is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to edit.
[02:10] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[02:10] <zeifer> I swear I have a terrible memory sometimes, thanks.
[02:11] <MGMT> billsey_: try installing arandr (sudo apt-get install arandr)
[02:12] <MGMT> billsey_: that should let you set the resolution and save it as a .sh that you can have autorun on startup
[02:12] <codephobic> \quit
[02:12] <MGMT> billsey_: ill be here for a while if you need any help
[02:12] <zeifer> MGMT, Ari-Yang, I'm restarting now. brb
[02:12] <Crazyzurfer> Hi, where are lamp mail logs saved? cause I tried to use "pretend" function on my application, that functions sends the generated mail to the log, but I can't find that log :S
[02:12] <LuxuryMode> Keep getting this error when trying to use add-apt-repository: http://pastebin.com/Ee7NMDzm Think it's a proxy issue, but not sure how to resolve it
[02:12] <MGMT> zeifer: k
[02:13] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone know how to move where the steam games get installed to?
[02:13] <MGMT> WHISKEY TIME!
[02:13] <cjmac> MGMT: can you DCC SEND some of that my way?
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  in the users home directory  .steam perhaps.
[02:14] <MGMT> cjmac: hmmmm maybe I'll rsync it to you so I don't lose any :)  its scotch... SCOTCH TIME!! lol
[02:15] <LuxuryMode> http://i.imgur.com/bmfwvDl.gif
[02:15] <chare> I got google chrome running in Saucy
[02:15] <LuxuryMode> spinning in circles :(
[02:15] <MGMT> cjmac: Monkey Shoulder Batch 27, cant go wrong
[02:16] <cjmac> MGMT: I think if rsync had a scotch option, sysadmins everywhere would be known as the happiest people on earth
[02:17] <bean> Crazyzurfer, lamp meaning something you installed?
[02:17] <MGMT> cjmac: I would sure like my job more lol.  'hey hey, how bout I ssh in and fix it myself, sound good? k'
[02:17] <Crazyzurfer> Crazyzurfer: yes, the web server
[02:18] <bean> Crazyzurfer, lamp is not a web server.
[02:18] <bean> !lamp
[02:18] <rossabarrett> I'm trying to set up a third monitor. I have two running off of a radeon driver from an ati chip. The only other port I have on my system is to the embedded intel chip. when I plug the third monitor in, it only shows a grey screen and doesn't register. Should I make a new xorg.conf. or is it even possible with xserver to run simultaneous drivers?
[02:18] <bean> Crazyzurfer, so what did you install
[02:18] <MGMT> bean: Lamp is totally a web server
[02:19] <bean> MGMT, only if you mean apache
[02:19] <MGMT> bean: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ or something like that
[02:19] <zeifer> MGMT, Ari-Yang's idea didn't work. Do you have anymore info for my sound issue?
[02:19] <MGMT> bean: apache is what the a in lamp stands for
[02:20] <Crazyzurfer> Apache has a way of storing emails in logs instead of sending them, that's just for debugging. But I cant find that log file, does anybody knows where can I find it?
[02:20] <MGMT> zeifer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282119/alsa-fails-to-recognize-on-board-audio-card <-- came across that, but not sure how much it'll help
[02:20] <bean> MGMT, I'm well aware, and its "sudo task-sel install lamp-server"
[02:20] <bean> Crazyzurfer, apache doesn't send mail itself.
[02:20] <MGMT> bean: theres so many ways to install a lamp server... all are correct
[02:20] <bean> Crazyzurfer, but it's likely in /var/log
[02:20] <netm> Hi - I just installed 13.10 on an ssd in my laptop, 13.04 is on my hd .. at the moment I have to boot to my hd to get grub and then get the ssd to boot. Question: how do I move my grub from the hd to the ssd?
[02:21] <DiceDingus> Hello, Ubuntu. I just installed the AMD proprietary driver, and now Gnome won't start. Happy day! How can I find out what's donking up so I can get it undonked?
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> >>> Every time I boot Ubuntu, I get a GRUB command line instead of the bootloader... what do I do to restore the bootloader? (a) I have rEFInd, and (b) I tried [ update-grub ] already.
[02:21] <rossabarrett> Also tried xrandr. It shows that I have the intel provider, but it doesn't give any outputs when i just enter xrandr
[02:21] <Crazyzurfer> bean: Tried on that directory, but didn't find it.. I guess i'm going to just try to send mails
[02:21] <bean> Crazyzurfer, so what package did you install for LAMP?
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: don't use fglrx
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> ._.
[02:22] <Crazyzurfer> bean: sudo apt-get install lampp-server^
[02:22] <Ari-Yang> terrible 2d acceleration, I was just helping somebody else out with setting up their laptop for vid game ready using open source radeon driver
[02:23] <DiceDingus> I was trying to play a game, it was whinging, I went to download a driver. Also, that doesn't help me undonk things.
[02:23] <bean> Crazyzurfer, not tasksel?
[02:23] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what card do you have?
[02:23] <MGMT> Crazyzurfer: if your looking for mail logs those are in /var/log/mail.log
[02:23] <rossabarrett> Any Ideas?\
[02:23] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang AMD Radeon HD 6770
[02:23] <Crazyzurfer> MGMT: it's empty, I guess my pretend function is not running well.
[02:23] <MGMT> rossabarrett: what do you need help with?
[02:24] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what ubuntu version?
[02:24] <rossabarrett> I'm trying to set up a third monitor. I have two running off of a radeon driver from an ati chip. The only other port I have on my system is to the embedded intel chip. when I plug the third monitor in, it only shows a grey screen and doesn't register. Should I make a new xorg.conf. or is it even possible with xserver to run simultaneous drivers?
[02:24] <Crazyzurfer> bean: nope, somebody here told me to never install taskel packages.
[02:24] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang: Ubuntu w/ Gnome 13.04
[02:24] <bean> Crazyzurfer, how are you "pretending" to send mail
[02:24] <bean> Crazyzurfer, right but theres no package called lamp-server
[02:24] <chare> ok now that I got Saucy running, we need to address the next problem, how do we get games made for linux I HATE HAVING WINDOWS JUST FOR STARCRAFT 2
[02:24] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: 64bit?
[02:24] <DiceDingus> chare: You make a blood-sacrifice to gaben at the altar of SteamOS.
[02:25] <DiceDingus> Ari-Yang: Correct.
[02:25] <Crazyzurfer> bean: it's called lamp-server^
[02:25] <MGMT> Crazyzurfer: you should try testing by using telnet to spoof some stuff around
[02:25] <Crazyzurfer> "lamp-server^"
[02:25] <chare> steam is a very small space of the entire gaming
[02:25] <bean> Crazyzurfer, theres also no package called lamp-server^
[02:25] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, my laptop is definitely running cooler in the graphics department. Very much improved there. :)
[02:25] <netm> Hi - I just installed 13.10 on an ssd in my laptop, 13.04 is on my hd .. at the moment I have to boot to my hd to get grub and then get the ssd to boot. Question: how do I move my grub from the hd to the ssd?
[02:25] <zeifer> However, still no audio fix.
[02:25] <MGMT> rossabarrett: try installing arandr (sudo apt-get install arandr)
[02:26] <MGMT> rossabarrett: arandr will let you make any monitors active and set their resolution
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: good good, not sure about the audio :/
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> maybe somebody here knows?
[02:26] <zeifer> Still hoping. :)
[02:26] <advx> bye 4 now
[02:26] <zeifer> It's a Compaq CQ62, only one audio card.
[02:26] <zeifer> lspci | grep Audio
[02:27] <zeifer> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
[02:27] <DiceDingus> Well, piss on this, I'll just back up my home folder and install something fresh when I feel like it. Gonna go crawling back to the Win7 partition.
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: c/p the output of lspci | grep VGA
[02:28] <bean> Crazyzurfer, you likely dont have a mail server installed
[02:28] <bean> as mail is not part of LAMP
[02:28] <rossabarrett> MGMT, xrandr --listproviders shows that I have the intel chip as a provider, but arandr shows that there isn't an output for the monitor when I plug it in
[02:28] <zeifer> I don't think Dice has the patience for Linux. :(
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> DiceDingus: what is the output of lspci | grep VGA
[02:29] <Crazyzurfer> bean: because of that, i'm trying to save the emails to a log file instead of trying to send them
[02:29] <bean> Crazyzurfer, using php though?
[02:29] <Crazyzurfer> bean: yes
[02:29] <bean> k, how are you doing it
[02:30] <MGMT> zeifer: found these commands... not sure if it'll help
[02:30] <MGMT> zeifer: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa
[02:30] <MGMT> sudo apt-get update
[02:30] <MGMT> sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:30] <LuxuryMode> If im writing a bash script that runs something that requires entering [y] to confirm moving forward, what do i put in my script?
[02:30] <MGMT> woops
[02:30] <MGMT> meh, that's all of it, sorry for pooping in chat
[02:30] <bean> LuxuryMode, look into the "read" command
[02:30] <bean> more specifically "read -p"
[02:31] <ssshvb> how to make my ubuntu desktop classic  (2d) ive got gnome-shell but in the login window it does not offer classic desktop
[02:31] <bean> Crazyzurfer, how are you logging it, then
[02:31] <MGMT> LuxuryMode: also ask bash questions in #bash
[02:31] <LuxuryMode> thanks bean
[02:31] <LuxuryMode> thanks MGMT
[02:31] <MGMT> LuxuryMode: no prob, they know their crap
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> bean: well, laravel is a framwork that I use and it has the "pretend" function that saves it into a logfile, I've done it before but with xampp on windows
[02:32] <Crazyzurfer> but there's really easy, just have to search in the xampp folder
[02:32] <rossabarrett> MGMT, any other things you would suggest trying?
[02:32] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are you using a laptop or desktop with 2 video cards bridged?
[02:33] <subcool> anyone else with any GUI based RAID configuring tools? - i created a Raid 0 with two SATA drives, but i need to make partitions on it. - IM too new to raid and paritions to being messing with it via CLI.
[02:33] <rossabarrett> MGMT, a desktop
[02:33] <zeifer> MGMT, nothing comes up for my current kernel version using that ppa.
[02:33] <bean> Crazyzurfer, application's log files
[02:33] <MGMT> zeifer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1585765&page=2 <--- theres more stuff here
[02:33] <bean> so likely "application.log" or similar,
[02:33] <zeifer> k
[02:34] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are you trying to use onboard video and a video card?
[02:34] <bean> Crazyzurfer, you should probably join #laravel though, not really an ubuntu question
[02:34] <rossabarrett> MGMT, I have Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) WITH Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 7570]
[02:34] <Crazyzurfer> bean: ok
[02:35] <MGMT> rossabarrett: are all three outputs on the Radeon HD 7570? as far as I know you cant use onboard and a graphics card together, one or the other
[02:35] <waykool99> is there a GRUB expert in here?
[02:35] <MGMT> waykool99: depends, what you need?
[02:36] <bazhang> waykool99, try #grub
[02:36] <mercutio> has anyone else noticed the new ubuntu has terrible network performance?
[02:36] <mercutio> like 50 megabit on gigabit lan
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> mercutio, No.
[02:36] <waykool99> ok will try #grub
[02:36] <waykool99> thank you :)
[02:36] <mercutio> currently i'm thinking it's because it's broadcom
[02:36] <bean> mercutio, that seems like it's probably not auto negotiating speeds right. How are you testing?
[02:36] <netm> Crazysurfer - I use Laravel as well on Ubuntu and have used msmtp successfully...
[02:37] <mercutio> with curl
[02:37] <mercutio> except
[02:37] <mercutio> iperf goes a lot faster
[02:37] <mercutio> it's very bizzare
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> mercutio:  not noticed the issues here.
[02:37] <chare> what are yo guys using your new Saucy for?
[02:37] <mercutio> i can curl using my wireless router at 15megabytes/sec, and my i7 linux box at 6megabytes/sec
[02:37] <MGMT> chare: blasting spam
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> chare:  same as one uses any other release. ;)
[02:37] <bean> mercutio, then its likely not the network thats slow, its likely what you';re curling from
[02:37] <bazhang> chare, dont poll here, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:38] <mercutio> well the wireless router running gargoyle has slow cpu i think mips, and it's still way faster than the i7
[02:38] <mercutio> it's local network
[02:38] <bean> mercutio, oh, is this transfer over wireless?
[02:38] <mercutio> i also have infiniband, which is doing 384 megabytes/sec or sometihng
[02:38] <mercutio> nope, local network
[02:38] <mercutio> 1 metre away
[02:38] <mercutio> i just have ssh to my wireless router
[02:39] <mercutio> so wanted to make sure it wasn't the server :)
[02:39] <bean> ah infiniband, i wish it was more popular
[02:39] <waykool99> pardon me again, i'm old school x10, haven't used IRC over 10 years.  in HERE, how do you change IRC channels?
[02:39] <mercutio> the server is running ubuntu too
[02:39] <mercutio> bean, it's real cheap, because it's not popular :)
[02:39] <rossabarrett> MGMT, I'm confused because a while ago it was magically working. How do I know what the outputs from the back of my computer go to? xrandr --listprovider says I have 6 outputs on the radeon card. Is there a way to direct all of the monitors to use one card?
[02:39] <MGMT> waykool99: use /join #grub
[02:39] <mercutio> i got 4 cards for $75 USD off ebay
[02:39] <mercutio> then it was like $35 USD for 2 cables or something
[02:39] <waykool99> ahhhh LOL hits self on head.  THANK YOU MGMT
[02:39] <bean> mercutio, nice, a professor of mine did some research-y stuff with it.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, depends on your irc app, you can join with /j "channel"
[02:40] <mercutio> beam, well if 15 gigabit is fast enough for you, it's rpetty cheap :)
[02:40] <waykool99> wilee i wanna go to GRUB group from here
[02:40] <MGMT> rossabarrett: beats me, I've only ever used 2 at once
[02:40] <mercutio> tbh, if there was 2.5 gigabit standard at good i'd probably just use that
[02:40] <chare> how do we make linux kill windows off
[02:40] <mercutio> but link aggregation with ethernet sucks
[02:41] <mercutio> err at good price
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> chare:  general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic   this channel is for support related questions.
[02:41] <zeifer> MGMT, Looking at that thread you sent me to, it's a Necro from 2010 with a couple posts in 2011. However, that is the exact issue I'm having but I don't have a dual boot to switch to Linux from Windows.
[02:41] <MGMT> chare: watch out, your getting dangerously close to getting kicked lol
[02:42] <mercutio> i think i'm going to have to try shifting to my custom kernel, but i think then ubuntu catalyst drivers will need patching :(
[02:42] <MGMT> zeifer: did the audio ever work in ubuntu?
[02:42] <rossabarrett> MGMT, would you suggest looking anywhere else, asking anybody else?
[02:42] <zeifer> Not on 13.10 but it did on much older versions.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> MGMT, No why do you ask. ;)
[02:42] <mercutio> well my custom kernel is 3.12.0-rc5
[02:42] <MGMT> zeifer: hmmmm... how old is that lappy?
[02:43] <bray90820> Would this be a good place to talk about ubuntu touch
[02:43] <MGMT> say whaaaa wilee-nilee ?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !touch | bray90820
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> MGMT, dumb questions get dumb answers.
[02:44] <MGMT> wilee-nilee: and scotch drinkers get drunk
[02:44] <bray90820> #ubuntu-touch
[02:44] <zeifer> MGMT, I'm not sure about this lappy's age. I bought it for $20 off a buddy that dropped a couch on it and cracked the screen.
[02:45] <mercutio> hmm, does anyone have broadcom ethernet here?
[02:45] <mercutio> i have another computer with broadcom ethrenet which has same driver version, but different firmware
[02:45] <mercutio> and it's not having issues
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> mercutio:  broadcom makes a large number of differnt network chipsets
[02:45] <mercutio> Dr_Willis: yeh
[02:45] <mercutio> 5715 is working ok
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[02:45] <MGMT> zeifer: try a live CD and make sure the sound still works lol
[02:45] <mercutio> 57781 is not
[02:45] <FloodBot1> mercutio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:46] <mercutio> Dr_Willis: erk, that's wireless
[02:46] <zeifer> MGMT, it didn't work in a live environment. That's what I used to install from.
[02:46] <MGMT> zeifer: I'd try ripping puppy linux or something and make sure its not a hardware issue
[02:47] <MGMT> zeifer: I've spent hours on audio before just to find out it was a ribbon cable that got snagged somehow
[02:47] <zeifer> I guess i could try that, but when I was on Windows, sound worked flawlessly.
[02:49] <MGMT> zeifer: only other thing I can think of off the top of my head is alsamixer then press f6 to see if you're using the 'wrong device'? other than that idk
[02:49] <zeifer> There's just the one device in here and detected.
[02:49] <chare> WHO HERE IS DUMB
[02:49] <MGMT> zeifer: did you upgrade to 13.10?
[02:50] <MGMT> aww, he left too quick
[02:50] <bean> zeifer, and alsamixer doesn't say that its muted?
[02:50] <bazhang> !ot | chare
[02:50] <zeifer> MGMT, What's the command to check which version I'm on? It should still be 13.04.
[02:50] <MGMT> uname -r
[02:50] <MGMT> I think
[02:50] <bean> lsb_release -a
[02:50] <zeifer> bean, alsamixer shows all volume levels maxxed.
[02:51] <zeifer> Even internals and mic
[02:51] <MGMT> zeifer: what about automute in alsamixer?
[02:51] <zeifer> automute may still say enabled.
[02:52] <topper4125> zeifer which DE are you using?
[02:52] <zeifer> XFCE
[02:52] <Crazyzurfer> Why I cannot see the opened terminal windows in my launch bar?
[02:52] <Crazyzurfer> ubuntu raring by the way (13.04)
[02:52] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I find out what a specific program write/read any specific file ?
[02:52] <MGMT> zeifer: which version lsb_release -a
[02:52] <topper4125> zeifer: try second response to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/883485/
[02:52] <zeifer> No results with automute disabled.
[02:53] <MGMT> lkthomas: huh? which program will open what?
[02:53] <topper4125> says it was fix with a release... but just had the problem myself earlier
[02:53] <subcool> hey how do i remove my gateway seetings made in my netowrk config.
[02:53] <lkthomas> MGMT: assume there is a program which is not standard from ubuntu itself, but a specific log file growth, how could I find out which program actually write to that log file ?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Have you modified compiz or the desktop?
[02:53] <subcool> i mean.. brige settings.. i had to setup manually a bridgeetwork and it was intricate.
[02:54] <zeifer> topper4125, I'll give this a try, thanks.
[02:54] <MGMT> lkthomas: wheres the log file located?
[02:54] <topper4125> hope it helps
[02:54] <lkthomas> it is at /home/whateverprogram
[02:54] <lkthomas> MGMT: does lsof would help
[02:55] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: yes, some days ago, but it worked fine until today
[02:55] <bean> lkthomas, yeah LSOF should help
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Any changes like say a recent reboot...etc unity/compiz is a a bit finky in this area with some changes.
[02:56] <lkthomas> bean: question, does program only open log file to write when it needed or it is always open log file ?
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> funky*
[02:56] <bean> lkthomas, depends on how the program writes. A more common paradigm would be to hold open the log file.
[02:57] <lkthomas> bean: thanks
[02:57] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: I reboot all the time, rebooted several times since the changes were made.
[02:57] <Semor> Does kernel record the reason for sending SIGKILL to one process?
[02:57] <Semor> where is the log?
[02:58] <bean> Semor, no.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, you might try a reset, or maybe give some details on the mods to the channel. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[02:58] <lkthomas> another confused question, how could I find out the last message when kernel panic reboot happen ?
[02:59] <subcool> ok, i take back my last stement, but i need to reset my interfaces fie to generic or something..
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Might just need a logout or reboot, we have no idea the voodoo that you did.
[02:59] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: I'm going to reset it
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Probably a good idea, just log your changes this time.
[03:00] <MGMT> joe75: you a rochestarian?
[03:00] <joe75> i am :P
[03:00] <MGMT> joe75: your only 10 hops from me
[03:00] <joe75> greece
[03:00] <morning> Is Skype available in Saucy? (Running Saucy -- "Try Ubuntu" -- from a USB drive, it doesn't seem to be.)
[03:01] <MGMT> joe75: used to live 2 miles from the mall, now i'm near park and oxford
[03:01] <joe75> :P
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> morning, skype is a install.
[03:01] <morning> wilee-nilee: I understand that. I've added the "partner" repository, but Skype still doesn't show up.
[03:01] <MGMT> joe75: you use linux for work?
[03:02] <joe75> i don't use linux at all anymore
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> morning, You check if they have a 13.10 release and if so run a update?
[03:02] <reisio> joe75: came into some money :p
[03:02] <joe75> xD
[03:03] <Crazyzurfer> wilee-nilee: it worked :)
[03:03] <bean> morning, adding a repository is not the same as installing a package :)
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Crazyzurfer, Cool, enjoy.
[03:03] <MGMT> joe75: what do you do?
[03:03] <Crazyzurfer> thanks
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[03:04] <bazhang> !ot | MGMT joe75
[03:04] <morning> The latest Skype is 4.2.  From what I see on the net, it's supposed to work. But apt-get install skype gives "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:04] <MGMT> hey bazhang its not offtopic if its directed at one individual, calm down
[03:04] <morning>  skype : Depends: skype-bin but it is not installable"
[03:04] <topper4125> morning: did you try: sudo apt-get -f install skype
[03:04] <bazhang> MGMT, sure it is. take it elsewhere. this channel is ubuntu support ONLY
[03:05] <bean> MGMT, it certaily is off topic
[03:05] <MGMT> !ot | bazhang
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> morning, I believe you want to install the latest download from skype directly rather than a ppa's version.
[03:05] <MGMT> now both of you are getting off topic
[03:05] <morning> topper4125: Yes, but I still get that error message.
[03:05] <zeifer> topper4125, I'm not seeing any place to specifically create keyboard shortcuts like that response says. Little lost there.
[03:05] <bean> haha, thx bazhang
[03:06] <morning> wilee-nilee: how do I do that?
[03:06] <MGMT> huh
[03:06] <morning> topper4125: Included in error message: "unable to correct problems, you have held  broken packages"
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> morning, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/ take a look here.
[03:06] <MGMT> !ot | !ot | !ot
[03:06] <bean> MGMT, now you're just being annoying
[03:06] <topper4125> morining: how about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173339
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> morning, just use the 12.04 the release is not the issue it is nthe latest from them.
[03:07] <MGMT> Oh, I'm sorry.  Do all tech people have a wedge up their butt?  Apparently not, cuz I dont
[03:07] <morning> wilee-nilee: Okay, I'll try that.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> MGMT:  your actions show  otherwise..
[03:08] <bean> MGMT, you've been told that this is a support channel, but insist on talking about non-support things.
[03:08] <MGMT> Dr_Willis: I was testing something
[03:08] <bean> :|
[03:08] <bazhang> MGMT, thats enough. take the chit chat elsewhere
[03:08] <topper4125> zeifer: Trying to remember exactly how I did get it (I know that's how I *solved* the problem in the end... but did a manual thing in terminal to 'originally' unmute it. I'll see if I can find it again
[03:08] <zeifer> topper4125, I'd appreciate that, thanks.
[03:10] <morning> wilee-nilee: That link gives me a i386 deb -- wrong architecture.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> topper4125:  used alsamixer or alsactrl perhaps?
[03:11] <topper4125> ran amixer from terminal... found a channel that said auto-mute, 1
[03:11] <topper4125> then found how to "0" it via google
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> morning, Does skype have a 64 bit for linux?
[03:12] <zeifer> Interesting development! Using the query commands for xfconf it says "Property "/active-card" does not exist on channel "xfce4-mixer". If a new property should be created, use the --create option.
[03:12] <zeifer> " Does that make sense?
[03:12] <reisio> wilee-nilee: does it matter?
[03:12] <morning> wilee-nilee: I think I read somewhere that it does but that it's really a 32-bit masquerading as 64.
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Does not to me I never use it.
[03:13] <reisio> or anyone else :p
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> morning, 13.04 is multiarch, I do not understand the issue.
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> like many others, lol
[03:14] <morning> I don't either. But I've found a page that talks about it and will try to follow the instructions. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Saucy_Internet#How_to_install_Skype_on_a_64-bit_system
[03:15] <topper4125> zeifer: on my system... it was pulse audio that was muted, went into the mixer>>Built in Audio Mixer (pulse Audio) and unmuted it from there.
[03:15] <zeifer> topper4125, Did you maybe use pavucontrol to unmute it?
[03:16] <topper4125> zeifer... ya I think that's it (the buffer on my terminal doesn't go back far enough to get the exact command
[03:16] <zeifer> Ok, pavucontrol for me is unmuted as well.
[03:17] <zeifer> When I plug in a headset, sound will work just fine. It's just the speakers onboard that are non-functional.
[03:17] <jorenl> Sorry for dropping in with a question, but here it goes: This bug affects me (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1228352), the page lists that a fix has been published. How do I go about installing it?
[03:17] <zeifer> It still acts like it's playing.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> morning, ah, I suspect that wget is the same package as the 12.04 download anyway, hope you get it working, I guess. There are other open source options, saucy maybe just a bit to fresh is all.
[03:17] <topper4125> zeifer: This is the blog that fixed my problem: http://grumbel.blogspot.com/2011/10/fixing-volume-control-in-xfce4.html
[03:17] <zeifer> k i'll look at it.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Just noticed in 13.10 the voume control applet in XFCE is not showing anything here. :) the laptops keyboard volume buttons work. but the control in the top panel is showing muted
[03:19] <topper4125> on this on, it would mute the pulseaudio, then try to unmute via alsa (if that makes sense???)
[03:20] <mih1406> Hi, I have just installed Ubuntu Unity for the first time (I usually use GNOME version). My first issue is that I want to have "Shift+Alt" my shortcut to change keyboard layout.
[03:20] <zeifer> topper4125, How about if xfce4-mixer has empty entries? Like, xfconf-query -c xfce4-mixer -l returns no results. How can I create something that will work?
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> i just got 2 virii scripts, 1 shellcode payload, and a few binary's tatted on me
[03:20] <AcidRain2012> looks raw
[03:21] <jorenl> (...) the bug page says: "This bug was fixed in the package compiz - 1:0.9.10+13.10.20130927.1-0ubuntu1" So I'd like to somehow install that. Do I try to install from the saucy-proposed branch?
[03:21] <reisio> AcidRain2012: viruses, according to what?
[03:21] <topper4125> zeifer Don't think I have any idea how to resolve that one...
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> mih1406, try the dash and the keyboard app.
[03:21] <AcidRain2012> reisio, they are just some early 2000 virus scripts
[03:21] <zeifer> Now that's a bummer. I feel we're narrowing down on the issue at hand, though.
[03:22] <mih1406> wilee-nilee: I tried that, but it does not accept my shortcuts.
[03:22] <kaitrek> is someone familiar with autofs in here? can someone explain what direct vs indirect access means?
[03:22] <sec_> anyone use nokia headphone. My nokia headphones will not work on my laptop unless i hold down a button. any tips to fix the problem?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> mih1406, unity is a bit funky there I believe, shatre with the channel what you have tried and your goals.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> share*
[03:23] <jorenl> any help on how I'd go about installing that released fix would be greatly appreciated! (it's a really frustrating bug, I also have to use saucy as my hardware is unsupported by older versions)
[03:24] <waykool99> on ubuntu studio v12.04 LTS 64 bit. in XINE listening (to Korn Live - Montreux 2004) wearing Plantronics Wireless USB headset. LEFT UP/DOWN buttons on Headset (normally) control Volume. Xfce GUI shows Volume up/down but NOT changing RealLife volume. Toolbar: is changing volume. what am i missing?
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, This on a TV or something?
[03:25] <waykool99> on pc wearing Plantronics WIRELESS USB headset.
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> waykool99:  usb headphones with volume controls that adjust the volime on the pc?
[03:25] <waykool99> headset has UP/DOWN volume
[03:26] <waykool99> yes
[03:26] <waykool99> exactly
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, probably does not trigger the popup
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> waykool99, ment for you sorry Dr_Willis
[03:26] <waykool99> the Volume POPUP pops up on screen
[03:26] <topper4125> zeifer: Don't know if any of this will be of use but; https://bugs.launchpad.net/xfce4-volumed/+bug/970009
[03:26] <reisio> IME you can fix that by running alsamixer in a terminal
[03:27] <reisio> changing volume & exiting
[03:27] <reisio> don't ask me why
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> ah not actually change the volume, he tmi for my feeble brain.
[03:27] <waykool99> using XINE. perhaps i'll try VLC or Totem movie player
[03:27] <kaitrek> is someone familiar with autofs in here? can someone explain what direct vs indirect access means?
[03:28] <waykool99> haven't toyed with Audacious since Windows 98 when it was called Winamp
[03:29] <chris__> wondering if anyone else is having same problem. updated to ubuntu studio 13.10 now all my games have a terrible stutter problem.. have tried all the prop. nvidia drivers..
[03:29] <LuxuryMode> Not sure if this question is appropriate her, but what's the right dir to place programs if i need a location where i have both read/write access?
[03:29] <deckard_> hello. Just upgraded and I am not able to install ia32-libs. Can anyone help?
[03:30] <waykool99> btw, v13.10 has IDJC installed on LIVE RUN DVD. almost had a heart attack and  died yesterday
[03:31] <waykool99> SHOULD SAY Ubuntu Studio  v13.10 has IDJC
[03:31] <chris__> anybody???
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !anybody | chris__
[03:31] <waykool99> assumed you tried  updates?
[03:32] <babernathy> kaitrek: section 3.1.1 of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[03:32] <waykool99> perhaps try nvidia.com, look up your card model. see if nVidia's got Linux driver online
[03:33] <dubone> anyone here a libvirt wizard? I am not getting responses from their channel
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> dubone, state the issue to the channel for help.
[03:34] <chris__> was running ubuntu studio 13.04 games ran great updated to 13.10 now every game i try stutters real bad. will run at 60 fps freeze for a few seconds.. run in fast forrward.. play for a few seconds then repeat. tried all the diffrent drivers. is this a kernal issue
[03:34] <dubone> Hello All, I have a vm running Ubuntu from Ubuntu and it has been running fine for months until last night I rebooted the vm and it is now stuck on "Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/yArg0FaP
[03:34] <waykool99> since Linus Torvalds said "nVidia F*** YOU!" on conference video youtube, nVidia appears to be more "Linux Friendly"
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> !language | waykool99 not cool
[03:35] <jorenl> Someone... Just the smallest indication as to how I'd go about installing the fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1228352 would help me so much...
[03:35] <jorenl> The bug is terribly frustrating.
[03:35] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to move my steam games to another drive/partition and if it would work if that drive/partition was an NFS share?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  if its been committed - it should be coming out in the updates in the near future.
[03:35] <wylde> LuxuryMode: you could use ~/bin/
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> i think it goes from committed -> released -> we get the fix
[03:36] <LuxuryMode> wylde thanks. does the mv command create that dir if it doesnt exist?
[03:36] <waykool99> sorry. was referencing a video on youtube of  linus torvalds  1 hour 45 minute conference.
[03:36] <chris__> card is a 460 gtx it worked great with driver 304 on ubuntu 13.04 but not on ubuntu 13.10
[03:36] <dubone> wilee-nilee: posted. ... are you perhaps libvirt wizard?
[03:36] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: it says Fix Released. So that means it should be available through the updates? :/
[03:36] <wylde> LuxuryMode: probably not, just mkdir ~/bin
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> dubone, I know nothing about it.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  if not out now. in the near future is how i belive it happens
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  and with all the new release stuff. that maybe delayed a bit
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> dubone, YOur link says paste has been removed
[03:37] <wylde> LuxuryMode: you may need to logout/login for it to work though. If it wasn't there when you logged in it wouldn't have been added to your PATH
[03:38] <LuxuryMode> i can just add it to my path though, right?
[03:38] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: Thank you for the reply!
[03:38] <dubone> wilee-nilee: so it is ..  http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[03:39] <dubone> new pastebin - Hello All, I have a vm running Ubuntu from Ubuntu and it has been running fine for months until last night I rebooted the vm and it is now stuck on "Boot from (hd0,0) ext4 - Starting up ... Here is my libvirt.log http://pastebin.com/EfpxKaLr
[03:39] <wylde> LuxuryMode: it SHOULD get added to path if it's already there at login and your .profile has the appropriate lines. See http://askubuntu.com/questions/49784/how-is-bin-added-to-my-path
[03:40] <LuxuryMode> ah cool, thanks wylde
[03:40] <wylde> LuxuryMode: np
[03:40] <deckard_> Hello. I have a program that ran before upgrading. It needed ia32-libs, but now it wont work and i cant install ia32-libs
[03:41] <dubone> wilnee-nilee: I hope a fresh pair of eyes can see what is going on in the libvirt log!
[03:41] <kaitrek> i need some help, we have a local machine hosting all user's accounts and we mount it on our cluster machines using autofs to /home folder, problem is there is 1 machine which has a local user /home/localuser, my problem is that autofs overwrites the directory access to /home when it's running such that /home/localuser doesn't show up, only the mounted user directory shows up, how can I have
[03:41] <kaitrek> the localuser folder be inside /home as well as have autofs mount cluster's users
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, its a multiarch now
[03:41] <deckard_> how do i make it work then?
[03:42] <kaitrek> right now we are using *   server:/home/&
[03:42] <kaitrek> The asterisk (*) is used in place of the mount point and the ampersand (&) in place of the directory to be mounted.
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, here is a deb, be sure you know what you are doing. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/i386/ia32-libs-multiarch/20090808ubuntu36
[03:43] <kaitrek> so when a user tries to access /home/user1, it requests the directory from server:/home/user1
[03:43] <zeifer> Okay, so apparently xfce4 has absolutely no data in regards to sound at all. No xfce-volumed, no /active card nothing. It always mentions that I should use the "--create option" but there's no manpage for it.
[03:43] <jrib> kaitrek: why not just put the local user's home outside of /home?
[03:43] <deckard_> since i do not know what i am doing, should i just reinstall using old Ubuntu that worked for me?
[03:43] <morning> wilee-nilee: Followed instructions & 32-bit Skype apparently installed, but doesn't seem to run.
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> deckard_, here is the source, I have no idea in this area is all. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+package/ia32-libs-multiarch
[03:44] <deckard_> ty
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> !info ia32-libs
[03:44] <deckard_> not sure what to do with any of it, but ty
[03:44] <ubuntuaddicted> currently my steam games are located within ~/.local/share/Steam and I'd like to move it to another drive, possibly even an NFS share. does anyone know how to accomplish this?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> morning, been a while since I used it so not sure really.
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> hmm, no idea what 13.10 did with the ia32 stuff.
[03:44] <jorenl> Dr_Willis: Checking saucy-proposed in my software sources, updating and rebooting fixed the problem entirely. I know there might be some bugs in there, but I'm experiencing so many bugs that seem to be realted to my hardware being new that I'm guessing installing "cutting edge" updates wouldnt hurt.
[03:45] <subcool> ubuntu is playing tricks on me. - i cant seem to rid myself of this bridged network. - i think i cleared the interfaces file neough, and i flushed eth0 and i restarted the network.
[03:45] <wylde> !find unionfs
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> jorenl:  i find that hardw2are thats been out a few months (like 7 mo) is often the best to buy. :)
[03:45] <morning> wilee-nilee: Thank you nonetheless. I have to head off now anyway, so I'll puzzle over it again later. Thanks again.
[03:45] <zeifer> Anyone ever experience things like xfce-volumed missing from xfce4 settings?
[03:45] <wylde> !info unionfs-fuse | kaitrek: perhaps?
[03:46] <James_Epp> Is there any way to specifically get the 12.04.2 iso images? I need to test something then compared to 12.04.3
[03:46] <jorenl> Dr_Willis, I think it's been out for a while - it's just a Lenovo Yoga Ideapad 13.  But I have to compile and install my wireless drivers every time the kernel updates which is kind of frustrating.
[03:46] <kaitrek> ubottu and what does that do?
[03:46] <kaitrek> wylde and what is that for?
[03:47] <subcool> James_Epp, yeah, i do the samet hing often, just google it.
[03:47] <wylde> kaitrek: one can use it to "layer" multiple mount points into one.
[03:47] <sam113101> how do I make the caps lock key act as a second backspace key?
[03:47] <James_Epp> subcool: /me curses myself
[03:47] <deckard_> hi again. If i install Ubuntu LTS, will it install ia32-libs and can i use XFCE with it?
[03:48] <moppy> sam113101: xmodmap i think
[03:48] <topper4125> <-- only runs LTS with XFCE
[03:49] <deckard_> will the ia32-libs work with it? I only use Linux for a game
[03:49] <wylde> !info mhddfs | kaitrek: also a thought
[03:49] <subcool> James_Epp, yeah.. - i dont like 13. and kubuntu/ubuntu.org doesnt offer older version ont he page. So i google it. and there is an offical place to downlaod them.
[03:49] <James_Epp> subcool: This, for my specific purpose: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/12.04.2/
[03:50] <waykool99> is it possible on ubuntu studio v12.04 LTS 64 bit, to change GUI from Xfce to Gnome 2?
[03:50] <AdBlocker> Hey all.
[03:51] <AdBlocker> I really love the feal of ubuntu and was wondering if I could learn about customizing some aspects of Ubuntu. It is perfect in almost every way but one
[03:51] <topper4125> deckard_ did you look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1988100
[03:51] <deckard_> ty
[03:51] <chare> i need thermal grease for my cpu
[03:52] <chare> what kind do i want?
[03:52] <AdBlocker> chare: bacon
[03:52] <subcool> please.. someone..
[03:52] <subcool> im about to do something hasty, and utterly cleanse my interfaces file
[03:53] <deckard_> topper4125, ty, but i dont know how to install any of that. But ya ill try
[03:53] <chare> AdBlocker that doesn't help me
[03:53] <AdBlocker> chare: bacon grease
[03:53] <James_Epp> subcool: Make a backup
[03:53] <chare>  /ban AdBlocker
[03:54] <AdBlocker> chare: you haven't even tried it yet....
[03:55] <AdBlocker> could anyone help me with my problem?
[03:55] <chare> no
[03:55]  * AdBlocker /ban chare
[03:55] <AdBlocker> thanks troll
[03:55] <FiremanEd> Adblocker: Stop it please
[03:55] <aaas> can someone say my name 'aaas' so i can test my clcient?
[03:56] <esde> i mounted my goflex home using the mount command and now i am unable to unmount it. I tried umount -a and its saying the device is busy
[03:56] <sam113101> aaas:
[03:56] <aaas> thanks sam
[03:56] <sam113101> np
[03:56] <esde> ahh it is,, nvm
[03:56] <aaas> duh...who would have thought the hightllight color is under 'highlight' ;)
[03:56] <wylde> chare: not really an ubuntu support question. I bet the guys in ##hardware would have some good recommendations.
[03:57] <AdBlocker> Can anyone help me with my problem with Ubuntu? It keeps slowing down when I do one thing
[03:57] <sam113101> moppy: is there another way? I swear I was able to do it from "system settings" in the previous release, now I can't find it
[03:58] <esde> but i needed to unmount it because when i mounted it the first time it showed root as owner and i was unable to create directories. how do i properly add the share?
[03:58] <esde> do i need to do something to the goflex home?
[03:59] <apn> esde, check what is using it using lsof
[03:59] <Matthew_Moore> Can somebody help? i am trying to install TeamVeiwer and i get  an error.   Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2    how do i fix it?
[03:59] <esde> i got that sorted, the issue now is creating directoris on the share
[04:00] <kaitrek> is # a comment in /etc/passwd?
[04:01] <kaitrek> is there a way to concatenate another passwd file to /etc/passwd, BUT to maintain 2 files separately? I have a list of users that I want to keep in a separate file
[04:01] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: are you using a 32-bit ubuntu or 64-bit?
[04:02] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:    64bit
[04:02] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: you should download a 64-bit teamviewer then
[04:03] <Matthew_Moore> i did.  it is a 64 bit TeamVeiwer.deb
[04:03] <sam113101> hmmm
[04:03] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: try "sudo apt-get install libasound2"
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: any luck on audio?
[04:04] <Matthew_Moore> Unable to locate package lib32asound2
[04:04] <sam113101> no 32
[04:04] <sam113101> libasound2
[04:04] <Matthew_Moore> ok
[04:04] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, not yet other than noticing that xfce4-volumed is missing from xfconf settings.
[04:05] <Matthew_Moore> it says    libasound2 is already the newest version
[04:05] <zeifer> Ari-Yang, and /active card is apparently empty. Mentions the --create option and has no manpage.
[04:06] <zeifer> I'm going to relocate with this lappy, though, I'll brb. Lappy might go to sleep during this move.
[04:06] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: okay, good luck, afk
[04:06] <codephobic> 1hi
[04:07] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: which ubuntu are you using?
[04:07] <Matthew_Moore> Ubuntu 13.10
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> Is 13.10 out now?
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> release
[04:07] <codephobic> just wanted to let people know that the virtualhost issue I had earlier is solved
[04:07] <sam113101> ryan_turner|MTW: yes
[04:07] <ryan_turner|MTW> sam113101, can I upgrade via software updater?
[04:07] <LuxuryMode> whats up with this? i move something to /home/bin and then its gone… http://pastie.org/8411083
[04:07] <sam113101> I think yes
[04:08] <codephobic> I looked into the error codes with Apache, turned out Apache 2.4 changed the authentication/authorization method drastically.
[04:08] <codephobic> setting changes are necessary in order for sites to carry on working from 2.2 to 2.4
[04:08] <AdBlocker> guys
[04:08] <wylde> LuxuryMode: shouldn't that be /home/USER/bin
[04:08] <AdBlocker> can anyone help me with my ubuntu computer?
[04:08] <AdBlocker> its acting slow
[04:08] <codephobic> I found the solution by following the info here: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#run-time
[04:09] <AdBlocker> but only when i do one thing
[04:09] <codephobic> hope that helps somebody.
[04:09] <AdBlocker> its really weird
[04:10] <subcool> James_Epp, i have a backup- but... i dont want to simply erase it all either. because even then it wont auto populate with the information i need
[04:10] <James_Epp> subcool: I can't help you specifically with network stuff in ubuntu, as I have no experience.  Pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 only gives me a blinking cursor, no text indicating I'm in TTY and I can't type anything there either. If I boot with nomodeset I can login, but can't type with my keyboard, although keybaord shortcuts work fine. Any ideas? :)
[04:12] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: still there?
[04:12] <Matthew_Moore> yes
[04:13] <HateYoFace> how goes it guys
[04:13] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: go to "software & updates", in the "other software" tab and make sure both canonical partners are checked
[04:13] <Matthew_Moore> ok
[04:15] <Matthew_Moore> ok canonical partners are not checked.       Trying it now
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, one is the source they are the same.
[04:15] <MacFan> anybody here run ubuntu on a G5 powermac?
[04:15] <reisio> MacFan: probably someone
[04:15] <klync> when I setup tagging, i say "iface eth0.1 auto" and it comes up, but eth0 comes up with it, and gets a dhcp lease (from the native-vlan-id), which I want to avoid. is there a way to keep eth0 down while eth0.1 stays up?
[04:15] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  that a PPC cpu?
[04:15] <MacFan> yes
[04:15] <sam113101> then you should do "sudo apt-get update"
[04:15] <sam113101> and try to install teamviewer again
[04:16] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: source as in source cod, instead of binaries?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  i think theres still a very few here and there that do. ;)
[04:16] <sam113101> code*
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  or have in the past. ask the actual question and see
[04:16] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:  didn't work. same error.
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, source of the downloads is all I know not separate partners per-say, no biggie.
[04:17] <sam113101> do "sudo apt-get install lib32asound2"
[04:17] <MacFan> I downloaded the cd iso from ubunto site, I think its 12.04 version, and booted the g5 on it. It seems to boot fine, until it detects the wireless networking, then it crashes and freezes up, saying missing driver. I have no idea how to add the driver to the boot cd, can I boot the system and somehow bypass that wireless detection? I just want to see how that computer runs it.
[04:18] <reisio> MacFan: can you try a more recent version?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> any other reccomended emailclients for pgp keys then thunderbird?
[04:18] <MacFan> according to what I read online, no version has the wireless drivers, its for a broadcom 43xx
[04:18] <MacFan> because its a firmware thing
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> !broadcom
[04:18] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: now?
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> it has trhe drivers but not the firmware i imagine
[04:19] <Matthew_Moore> still not working.
[04:19] <MacFan> well, I don't have any linux systems, and don't know how to add in the missing firmware to the cdrom. I was thinking of running the g5 on ubuntu, wanted to try it out.
[04:19] <reisio> MacFan: right, but wireless drivers shouldn't make the OS crash
[04:19] <reisio> hence try another version
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you wont be adding stuff to the cdrom. thats not how it works
[04:19] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: did you do "sudo apt-get install lib32asound2"?
[04:20] <sam113101> what's the error you're getting, now?
[04:20] <MacFan> ok, I'll download a newer iso
[04:20] <Matthew_Moore> sam113101:  yes.  getting the same errors
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  and veryify the md5sum of the iso after downloading it
[04:21] <sam113101> Matthew_Moore: which one?
[04:21] <rOOb> hello all. Anyone using ubuntu with full disk encryption? I would like to use ubuntu on my laptop and I need FDE....but I also need things like sleep/hibernate to work. In the past linux has been horrible with sleep/hibernate...especially with FDE. Can anyone say they use it reliably?
[04:21] <MacFan> I'm sure the g5 can handle unbuntu, its quad core 2.5ghz, 16gig ram, ssd, and geforce 7800gt
[04:21] <Matthew_Moore> when i try to install the .DEB i get the dependaci not satisfiable.  when i  try to sudo apt-get  it  it  sames unable to locate.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  err.. you said it was a PPC cpu earlier. :) guess that was not right
[04:22] <sam113101> yes but what's missing?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | rOOb
[04:22] <Matthew_Moore> sorry for the typos
[04:22] <MacFan> it is a quad g5 ppc mac
[04:22] <sam113101> I want the exact error message
[04:22] <Matthew_Moore> lib32asound2  i assume.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you did get the PPC iso file?
[04:22] <esde> i cannot copy out of keepass on ubuntu 12.04, ive install xsel and mono-complere
[04:22] <esde> *t
[04:22] <rOOb> lotuspsychje Yea. I know how...and I was going for FDE with something like LUKS.
[04:22] <sam113101> did you install lib32asound2 successfully?
[04:22] <rOOb> But thanks
[04:22] <MacFan> yes, it boots up to the part where its detecting all the hardware
[04:23] <sam113101> what did it say when you tried to install it
[04:23] <MacFan> but freezes up after the missing driver error for the b43
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  there is a ppc forum i recall. but i gave up on ppc linux ages ago.
[04:23] <Matthew_Moore> No.    No success yet.
[04:23] <MacFan> yeah, its old stuff, but still fun  :)
[04:23] <apn> MacFan, disable the module in grub, and install broadcom-sta
[04:23] <sam113101> wait
[04:23] <sam113101> I'm going to check if that's the actual name of the package
[04:24] <MacFan> apn, ubuntu is not installed, its just booting off the cdrom
[04:24] <apn> MacFan, certain kernels caused b43 to crash. Most notably the whole 3.10 series.
[04:24] <MacFan> ok, so a newer version might fix that?
[04:24] <esde> im trying to copy my passwords out but it wont let me
[04:24] <apn> MacFan, yes, 3.11 is good.
[04:25] <MacFan> the newest version listed here is 12.10
[04:25] <MacFan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  with the newer ubuntu releases wanting PAE enabled cpus i was just wonderinf if there was anything newer then 12.10 for ppc
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> !ppc
[04:26] <subcool> Dr_Willis, your knowledgable. - how do i purge/reset my network config
[04:27] <subcool> i need it back to stock.
[04:27] <MacFan> willis, the g5 is 64bit cpu, has 16gig ram in it now
[04:27] <MacFan> so it has to have pae
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  no idea. I dumped my iMAC dv and havent looked back
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> could be the PPC community have given up on making newre reelases also
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  cant say ive ever messed with it. You did check askubuntu.com ? theres some files in /etc/network/
[04:29] <kaitrek> what do I need to do for passwd changes to take effect?
[04:29] <apn> MacFan, you can still install it, with b43 disabled. Use wired for connection. Afterwards, you can either a) compile your kernel yourself b) use broadcom-sta and keep b43 blacklisted.
[04:29] <MacFan> I"m downloading 12.10 now
[04:30] <MacFan> don't know any newer version
[04:30] <MacFan> getting the 'desktop cd'
[04:30] <MacFan> iso
[04:30] <reisio> kaitrek: change the passwd
[04:30] <subcool> yeah, all of them are setup to have a bridged network or something.
[04:30] <MacFan> so is the proper thing that should happen, is when it gets to b43 and has no driver, it just keeps booting?
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  bridged? You been playing with virtualbox/vmware or somthing?
[04:31] <apn> MacFan, *should. if not, blacklist it.
[04:31] <subcool> Dr_Willis, yep. lol
[04:31] <reisio> MacFan: since networking isn't essential to the OS, yup
[04:31] <reisio> and not even essential to installing
[04:31] <MacFan> ok, thanks apn, I don't know how to blacklist anything, I'm total noob at linux, but I'll try 12.10 and see if it works
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> subcool:  cant say ive eer had  vbox goof things up. ;) but i only use the most basic features of it
[04:32] <reisio> MacFan: or 13.04
[04:32] <MacFan> I dont' see ppc version of 13.04 anywhere
[04:32] <subcool> Dr_Willis, i have vbox, and FreeNAS - but.. the bridge is messing things up
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> MacFan:  you might want to find a disrto that focuses more on ppc development.  Ubuntu dosent really give it  a lot of support
[04:32] <kaitrek> i modified /etc/group but the folder still doesn't show the proper group name with ls
[04:33] <MacFan> the only others I know, are yellowdog, which people say is very outdated, and debian
[04:33] <Yowl> Someone said that when you do a file search on your PC with unity, it shares this information with amazon, any truth to this?
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> i dont even know what disrtos do focus on ppc any more.
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> debian would be the top choice i imagine
[04:33] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its documetned at all the blog sites and other places. it sends anoymous info.
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  and it can be disabled. the webupd8 and omgubuntu site have info on disableing it in 13.10 and earlier releases
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> !adlens
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> 13.10 changes a lot of the stuff. so old guides may not apply to 13.10
[04:35] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: What is the purpose of this, and is this sharing specific to the DE unity?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its a feature of the unity search stuff.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  I can search askubuntu.com or other sites without ever leaveing unity
[04:35] <reisio> MacFan: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/13.04/release/ubuntu-13.04-desktop-powerpc.iso
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> thers  like 100+ search lens in the 13.10 released
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> each can be turned on/off as needed.
[04:36] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: So not present in the other DEs?
[04:36] <ssj5goku> installed ubuntu just now and cant install any apps.....it doesnt show the install button and only shows more info....pls help
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  its a unity feature
[04:36] <mih1406> Hi,
[04:36] <mih1406> why there is no calendar on Ubuntu?
[04:36] <mih1406> Unity
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, you reboot to the install?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> mih1406, because you didn't install one?
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> i thought you clicked on the clock and got a calander
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> click clock calander ;)
[04:38] <ObrienDave> Yowl... Xubuntu has unity-scope-home instead
[04:38] <mih1406> cfhowlett: You are right!! That was a puzzle to entertain #Ubuntu chatter.
[04:38] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee: i dont understand .....a ctually i have been facing a lot of problems installing ubuntu and was getting a lot of internet connectivity problems and so i installed windows and ubuntu again and now this...
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> ObrienDave:  cant say ive noticed it in xubuntu. but may be its just so transparent  i dont see it; )
[04:39] <ObrienDave> I never paid any attention either :)
[04:39] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Was it well announced about this when it came out?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-scope-home
[04:39] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, You have yet to make any clear description of the issue.
[04:39] <sam113101> you guys broke youtube
[04:39] <sam113101> I can't believe it
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  there was a Huge amount of discussuin about the amazon shopping lens when it came out.
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> the whole lens/scope stuff was a major feature/innovation of unity
[04:40] <mih1406> Which calendar is integrated with Unity (other than Evolution)?
[04:40] <Dr_Willis> then like a year (8 mo?) after it came out.. some people started ranting about it being secret and stuff.. even tho it was rather well documented
[04:41] <ObrienDave> sam113101... dang, one of the important things in life .....
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> no NSA lens, shucks. ;)
[04:41] <sam113101> I'm not kidding
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> i used to use the askubuntu.com lens all the time. but now its built in
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> !ot | ssj5goku,
[04:41] <sam113101> 4 minutes video plays in 30 seconds, full speed
[04:41] <sam113101> and no sound
[04:41] <cfhowlett> !details|sam113101,
[04:42] <ObrienDave> sam113101... yes, I do believe you're not kidding
[04:42] <mih1406> Which calendar is integrated with Unity (other than Evolution)?
[04:43] <sam113101> rhythmbox is also playing at full speed, no sound
[04:43] <sam113101> what the hell is going on
[04:43] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How is that a improvement on the search bar for firefox?
[04:43] <topper4125> wilee-nilee: NSA needs no lens, they have FB, Google, and Youtube TOS fine print... much more accurate
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  you dont need a browser open.
[04:43] <ObrienDave> sam113101... it's the new time warp feature. Like it?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  and you can easially select the lens you want to use
[04:43] <sam113101> cfhowlett: what kind of details can I give, lol
[04:43] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How can it display internet results without a browser?
[04:43] <sam113101> not sure I can view videos before they are downloaded
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:   you dont need a browser to get stuff from the web.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  go use the feature for a while and see
[04:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone here have a grub menu with submenus I can use as an example?
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  the default grub.cfg for my systems have older kernels in a sub menu by default
[04:45] <esde> Can someone give me a hand with copy passwords out of keepass? Google is turning up nothing..
[04:45] <ObrienDave> ntzrmtthihu777... grub customizer will allow you to create submenus in grub
[04:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> ObrienDave: not useing *buntu, and I'm writing this by hand.
[04:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: would you mind pastebining it for me?
[04:45] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee:  ok now its just updating to 13.10.... will it be ok after updating???
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  not sure if this netbook has any. ;) let me pastebin it
[04:46] <sam113101> wow man
[04:46] <bean> ntzrmtthihu777, this is an ubuntu support channel, btw.
[04:46] <sam113101> I've never seen a release that has this many bugs
[04:47] <Romance> so how good is 13.10
[04:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> bean: I'm aware. Its just the only distro I have familiar with that uses submenus and I figured at least someone here would have what I needed.
[04:47] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, will what be okay, you need to give details.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6254997/
[04:47] <sam113101> Romance: not good
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  cant say ive seen any of the issues
[04:47] <ssj5goku> wilee-nilee: ok what type of details do you want...pls tell me...
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> Romance:  works well for many people so far it seems.
[04:47] <Romance> i will try it tonight
[04:47] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[04:48] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I've had many issues so far
[04:48] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1241252
[04:48] <sam113101> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1241258
[04:48] <wilee-nilee> !details | ssj5goku to the channel not me.
[04:48] <topper4125> I only go from LTS to LTS... I'm good till 2017
[04:48] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: How about zeitgeist, is that unity only? Is that disableable? What is it's point?
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> using xubuntu here on my netbook in 13.10
[04:48] <sam113101> two of them
[04:49] <sam113101> the major ones, you know
[04:49] <ObrienDave> pebcak ;)
[04:49] <Rena> can the standard install ISO do encrypted disks or do I need the alternate
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  read up on it on its homepage/wiki page..  Its not unity only as far as i know.   and yes. the blog sites i mentioned earlier mention how to disable it if you really want to.
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> !details | ssj5goku
[04:49] <cfhowlett> topper4125, indeed.  plus now the interim releases are on 6 month support cycles, LTS is looking REALLY good.  Interim releases are for the beta testers, in effect
[04:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> Dr_Willis: exactly what I need, thank you.
[04:50] <ssj5goku> yaa sorry but now i checked its working fine.....
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> ntzrmtthihu777:  thats from a pc thats been release updated seeral times. :) with like 20 kernels. ;)
[04:50] <topper4125> Pretty much how I feel about it too cfhowlett ;)
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, to the channel not me, however without fixing what they were you are now doing doing distro upgrade
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, Did you not run a update in the install before trying to do installs?
[04:51] <ObrienDave> Rena... yes, the standard can do an encrypted home directory
[04:51] <ObrienDave> brb
[04:51] <Rena> but can it do the full disk encryption
[04:51] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Is zeitgeist installed by default in ubuntu and xubuntu?
[04:51] <ssj5goku> no
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> ssj5goku, In linux after a install you have to run a update to get the repos synced with the instal.
[04:53] <ObrienDave> Rena... sorry, that I don't know.
[04:53] <topper4125> I do tend to grab the newest wallpapers though... always like those...
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  ubuntu defainatly. no idea on xubuntu
[04:54] <ssj5goku> ok thanks for the heads up.... actually i m new to ubuntu and i dont know anything ...
[04:55] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Is it part of the unity DE? Or even if I switch DEs it will still be up and running unless disabled?
[04:55] <irrelev4nt> hi all. does anybody here use Ubuntu and Win8 in a dual boot with SecureBoot enabled? I could use some help, please.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  cant say ive ever noticed.  Unity uses it. it dosent require unity i belive
[04:55] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: some things depend on it, but you can tweak the debs to remove that
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  why are you even worried about it? you dident even seem to know what it does earlier.
[04:56] <Ari-Yang> zeifer: did you ever see how video game performance is?
[04:56] <zeifer> no games downloaded yet.
[04:56] <Yowl> ntzrmtthihu777: You mean unity things, What is it's purpose? I keep on reading a general description of it recording and making associations, but not of its purpose
[04:56] <zeifer> Still trying to get audio to cooperate
[04:56] <sam113101> I hate ubuntu 13.10
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  it shows me what recent files ive used and how much time spent doing stuff to them
[04:56] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Why do you think something unknown should be worried about the least? Sounds like head in sand logic
[04:57] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: What use is that?
[04:57] <bean> Yowl, why not google instead of playing 20 questions?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  if the boss asks how long you have been working on a word processing doc...
[04:57] <bean> this is a support channel
[04:57] <bean> not a 20 questions channel
[04:57] <Yowl> bean: Because I did google first
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> bean:  yep.. good answer
[04:57] <kaitrek> i have a problem, my NFS mount is showing 65534 user and group ID, why?
[04:58] <Yowl> bean: Well actually I duckduckgo.com first, but whatever
[04:58] <kaitrek> it's supposed to be something like 400:200
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/180990/what-is-zeitgeist-used-for
[04:58] <bean> !ot | Yowl
[04:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: its purpose is to index your actions for better or worse and eat process space :P
[04:58] <sam113101> !guidelines
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> In the context of Ubuntu, it is a software package that remembers your activities to try and assist in narrowing down what you want to do without having to tell the computer as explicitly.
[04:59] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: Ok that's a bit more specific, but could I please get a working example?
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Yowl:  nope.. go read the url
[04:59] <sam113101> now the clock has disappeared
[04:59] <zeifer> I'll be right back, Ari-Yang . Seems I wasn't added to group audio either.
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: it remembers what you type in the dash and such.
[04:59] <sam113101> wtf
[04:59] <Yowl> Dr_Willis: I did read it I said
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> i mentioned word processing a doc and the boss asking for your time spent
[04:59] <cfhowlett> !language|sam113101,
[04:59] <mih1406> Ubuntu 13.10 missing Eclipse IDS update!!
[04:59] <sam113101> language?
[04:59] <Yowl> ntzrmtthihu777: What purpose does it serve, other then being able to rat you out to your boss?
[05:00] <MacFan> I just tried lubuntu 12.10, and it didn't freeze up on the b43 driver, it finished booting and stopped at a command prompt, is there something I have to type to start some sort of gui?
[05:00] <mih1406> Ubuntu 13.10 missing Eclipse IDE update!!
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and this is where everyone starts ignoreing...
[05:00] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know how to move the steam games to another location than ~/.local/share/Steam?
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: run startx ?
[05:00] <ubuntuaddicted> and would NFS over 100Mbit be fast enough?
[05:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> Yowl: not much. it irked me so I ripped it out by the roots XD
[05:00] <MacFan> ok, thx, I'm totally new to this.  :)
[05:00] <BuzZBladE> ubuntuaddicted, symlinks ?
[05:00] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, steam has a games backup function.  backup it up, move it?
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuaddicted:  use a soft link, would be one way
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> MacFan: but you shouldn't have to....
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> meh
[05:01] <sam113101> Ubuntu — restart your computer until it works correctly
[05:01] <jetsaredim> anyone know what happened with ia32-libs?
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mih1406: yep. you're better off installing it yourself from the eclipse site's tarball