[12:14] <Soul^Shadow> was xhost needing to shutdown control host
[12:14] <yaccin> ok ^^
[12:14] <yaccin> lol
[12:14] <Mena> jhutchins, Thanks
[12:14] <Mena> Thanks all for helpping ....Bye...
[12:14] <Mena> :)
[12:16] <Gtwy> okay it really just took 10 minutes to go from "selecting" my timezone to the next panel when i clicked continue
[12:16] <Gtwy> is there something wrong with the livecd because this is the 2nd computer ive tried it on
[12:16] <jhutchins> coreymon77: run through this and see if you find anything: http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[12:17] <jhutchins> Gtwy: What's it's md5sum?
[12:17] <jhutchins> coreymon77: run alsaconf
[12:17] <wir> halllo analle
[12:18] <Soul^Shadow> ok now freezes when i try connect gggrrr....
[12:18] <coreymon77> there is no such command as alsacong
[12:18] <sergio_> Hello!! How install Webcam Genius VideoCAM look in Ubuntu???? Pleaseee help!!!
[12:18] <coreymon77> alsaconf*
[12:19] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ok, try muting the spdif out.
[12:19] <coreymon77> ???
[12:19] <sergio_> How install Webcam "Genius VideoCAM look" in Ubuntu? Sorry my language. I am spanish
[12:20] <jhutchins> coreymon77: In kmix.
[12:20] <jhutchins> !es | sergio_
[12:20] <ubotu> sergio_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:20] <jhutchins> sergio_: google your model and v4l (Video 4 linux).
[12:20] <sergio_> ok, thans!
[12:20] <sergio_> thanks!
[12:21] <jhutchins> sergio_: Good luck!  Webcams is tricksy beasts.
[12:21] <coreymon77> jhutchins: spdif?
[12:21] <jhutchins> Sony Phillips Digital Inteface Format.
[12:21] <jhutchins> Look for an spdif out.
[12:22] <jhutchins> coreymon77: You get no start-up sound, right?
[12:22] <coreymon77> jhutchins: i get no sound, period
[12:22] <coreymon77> but that too
[12:23] <coreymon77> jhutchins: and there is no spdif out
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Oh well.
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: system-settings -> Multimedia & Sound, check the settings, check the "test sound" button.
[12:23] <jhutchins> coreymon77: in the mixer, set the ballance one notch off center.
[12:23] <jhutchins> I got hungry horses and toe-tapping wife, gtg.
[12:24] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nopr
[12:24] <coreymon77> jhutchins: nothing
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> GGAHAHH!! now limewire freezes :P
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> ahhh Phew
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> its ok
[12:24] <Soul^Shadow> whew that would of sucked if it crashed :P
[12:28] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ok, you need to get somebody else in on this, I'm totally out of ideas.
[12:29] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Last suggestion is to use lspci to make sure of the sound card model, then google that with kubuntu and "no sound" and see what you get.
[12:29] <coreymon77> one more thing
[12:29] <coreymon77> im looking atthe site you gave me
[12:29] <coreymon77> and it told me to apt a file
[12:30] <coreymon77> but doing so give me tons of dep problems
[12:30] <jhutchins> Hmm.  Well, that could be what's going on.  I really have to go.
[12:34] <wilman> how to do a timed shell command?
[12:34] <wilman> my computer on halt in 1 hour
[12:39] <hleonc> join #ubuntu-co
[12:39] <nixternal> NO
[12:39] <nixternal> ;)
[12:42] <slyfox> Please help, why do I get thsi error?
[12:42] <slyfox> ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[12:42] <slyfox> ./admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found
[12:42] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[12:42] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[12:43] <slyfox> I have
[12:43] <slyfox> ./compile-kmobiletools.sh
[12:43] <slyfox> ./admin/cvs.sh: 651: --version: not found
[12:43] <slyfox> *** AUTOCONF NOT FOUND!.
[12:43] <slyfox> *** KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[12:43] <slyfox> I have AUTOCONF 2.60 installed
[12:43] <epimeth> so I'm getting closer to the problem, I think
[12:43] <epimeth> it seems to be a problem with kio_media_mounthelper
[12:44] <epimeth> but I can't find its config file!!!
[12:44] <epimeth> and google is useless
[12:44] <epimeth> !kio_media_mounthelper
[12:44] <epimeth> !kio
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <visitor> HI
[12:47] <visitor> WHAT IS THE TOPIC ON THIS SERVER?
[12:47] <visitor> oop, sorry for the caps
[12:48] <slyfox> can someone pelase help me to isntall this? http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/kmobiletools-svn-2007-02-27.tar.bz2
[12:51] <wimpies> Hi all, my CD hotpluging does not work anymore ... what might be wrong ?
[12:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: AH HA!
[12:56] <coreymon77> jhutchins: that could be a problem
[12:57] <coreymon77> oh
[12:57] <coreymon77> or not
[12:57] <coreymon77> anyways
[12:59] <slyfox> coreymon77: can you help ?
[12:59] <julle> Anyone who has installed WoW BC via cedega ?
[01:00] <coreymon77> slyfox: im the one who needs help here
[01:02] <Okapi> hello to all
[01:03] <Okapi> I have problem to run xman. Error: No manual pages found. Anyone can help?
[01:07] <yamen> to polski kanal ?
[01:08] <yamen> anybody can help me with wpa-psk connection ?
[01:10] <kdefreak> Hmm... kscreensaver doesn't want to quit, what process do I kill to regain access to my desktop?
[01:11] <yamen> duno
[01:11] <morvok> kdefreak: are you running any apps on it?
[01:11] <morvok> if not you can reset the Xserver by ctrl+alt+backspace.
[01:12] <morvok> but you will lose whatever is running!
[01:12] <yamen> how can i connect to wpa-psk network ?
[01:12] <kdefreak> morvok: Konversation (*waves to ryanakca*), kate (unsaved Doc), Amarok, umm.... Fx
[01:12] <kdefreak> If I did, I don't mind restarting X
[01:14] <morvok> does it have a pid from ps -ax?
[01:14] <kdefreak> morvok: If I knew what process to grep for...
[01:14] <morvok> I suppose you can't do that eg?
[01:14] <kdefreak> VT1, if it lets me switch over to it...
[01:16] <kdefreak> refuses to let me switch to a vt
[01:16] <kdefreak> unless it's in kubuntu-desktop...
[01:17] <morvok> kdefreak: see if crtl+alt+del kills it... should bring up the shutdown screen.
[01:19] <kdefreak> morvok: nope
[01:21] <morvok> hrmm.
[01:22] <epimeth> jhutchins, you still around?
[01:28] <craftycorner> my trash isn't deleting
[01:28] <craftycorner> it goes to a shared file, and keeps recycling to a shared file.  how do i get this crap off the hard disk?
[01:29] <hitmanWilly> craftycorner, try deleting it with sudo
[01:30] <craftycorner> gimmie the command
[01:31] <craftycorner> what is the sudo command 4 delete file
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: "sudo rm file"
[01:31] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: do you know what sudo does?
[01:31] <craftycorner> enters you into root
[01:32] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: yes, root can do anything, like delete a pesky file
[01:33] <Soul^Shadow> root has limits :P
[01:33] <lovloss> why does kubuntu think my hard drive is full? o.o
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> Soul^Shadow: like..?
[01:33] <Soul^Shadow> u need chmod +x & chmod 777 to  fully delete some files/folders made
[01:33] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: open konsole and run "df -h"
[01:34] <lovloss> it says 100% used
[01:34] <lovloss> thats impossible
[01:34] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: have you cleared your trash recently
[01:34] <craftycorner> i've the same damned prob
[01:34] <Soul^Shadow> i had folder for java on dsktop had to 777 it to delete it even as root
[01:34] <craftycorner> what is the sudo command 4 delete
[01:34] <lontra> is there an image manipulation program for kde like gimp?  is krita analogous to gimp?
[01:34] <craftycorner> sudo what
[01:35] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: Yes, i have.
[01:35] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: "sudo rm file" or "sudo rm -r folder"
[01:35] <Soul^Shadow> i dunno i did a sudo of kded my desktop :P
[01:35] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: There should be like 20 gigs left
[01:35] <morvok> be very carefull with the -f option!
[01:36] <Soul^Shadow> yeah it can -f up ur pc :P
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: do you use bittorrent, I had the problem bittorrent allots the full amount of space it needs
[01:36] <craftycorner> rm: cannot remove `folder': No such file or directory
[01:36] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: change folder to the name of the folder
[01:36] <Soul^Shadow> look for caps
[01:36] <om3ga> what a day
[01:36] <lovloss> bonbonthejon: No, i dont . in fact, the sum of all my file's sizes does not equal 100%
[01:37] <craftycorner> not helping
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> craftycorner: check dir for cap letters in it
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> damn gotta go, l8tr all
[01:38] <craftycorner> i put it on my desktop, it's not going anywhere damn it
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: I dont know what to say, maybe run fsck to check the file system
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> lontra: you can gimp in kde
[01:38] <bonbonthejon> morvok: I said -r and not -f
[01:38] <morvok> sudo rm -rf /blah/blah/blah
[01:38] <morvok> becareful!
[01:38] <Soul^Shadow> desktop is spelled Desktop :P I ad same prob before LOL
[01:38] <tarelerulz> Is there a way  to install ubuntu to usb hard drive?
[01:39] <Soul^Shadow> yes
[01:39] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: you can use tab to autocomplete the name
[01:39] <craftycorner> the're s folders in it.
[01:39] <lovloss> oh my god
[01:40] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: use -r to recursively delete
[01:40] <lovloss> why is there a nameless .txt file in my home directory taking up 37 gigs?
[01:40] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: that might be a problem
[01:40] <hitmanWilly_> lovloss, open it up and see what it is
[01:40] <intelikey> lovloss sounds like a bad redirrect from a script
[01:40] <lovloss> Its... a stream of numbers
[01:40] <craftycorner> gommie command
[01:41] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: it sounds messed up, you probably could delete it
[01:41] <hitmanWilly_> lovloss, its probably safe to delete then
[01:41] <lovloss> i assume so
[01:41] <lontra> bonbonthejon: i know but it is krita similar to gimp?
[01:41] <lovloss> ack i sent it to trash... wont ersase from there. should have rmed it
[01:41] <intelikey> rm your trash
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lovloss: you can do shift-delete to automatically remove it, not ove it to trash
[01:42] <lovloss> i know i forgot
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lontra: i prefer gimp, t seems more robust, but krita is pretty good too, they are similar
[01:42] <lovloss> oh its gone
[01:42] <lovloss> yay
[01:42] <lovloss> what WAS that
[01:42] <bonbonthejon> lontra: they are both pixel based
[01:43] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what was your last comment about?
[01:43] <gugu^> cpk1: are you here?
[01:43] <craftycorner> it's not deleting
[01:44] <craftycorner> moved trash to desktop
[01:44] <craftycorner> but it won't delete from desktop by sudo
[01:44] <lovloss> wow its taking forever to delete that file
[01:44] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: do "sudo chmod 777 folder" and then try deletingit
[01:45] <bonbonthejon> craftycorner: what do yuou mean you moved trash to desktop
[01:45] <craftycorner> I took all the crap in the trash, put it in a folder, and put it on top of Desktop
[01:45] <gugu^> I need help to configure my LAN, linux server and linux clients. the ping from others computers to server is working but internet is not???
[01:47] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what is the problem
[01:48] <BucWheat> does the cube alt+tab interface come standard with kubuntu 6.10 ?
[01:48] <bonbonthejon> BucWheat: no, that is beryl or compiz
[01:48] <BucWheat> bonbonthejon thanks let me google that
[01:48] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didn`t know, i configured my server, and the other computers, and if i ping server its working but internet is not, i have a dsl conection on internet
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> !beryl | BucWheat
[01:49] <ubotu> BucWheat: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> !compiz | BucWheat
[01:49] <ubotu> BucWheat: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:49] <coreymon77> im just curious
[01:49] <coreymon77> is feisty gonna be an lts?
[01:49] <bonbonthejon> coreymon77: no
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think so
[01:49] <coreymon77> when is the next one gonna be
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> probably feisty+2
[01:50] <Admiral_Chicago> but i'm guessing
[01:50] <intelikey> coreymon77 normal release
[01:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: dhcp or static?
[01:50] <coreymon77> the one after feisty?
[01:50] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: dhcp
[01:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: router gives the ips?
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> coreymon77, either that or the next one
[01:50] <intelikey> coreymon77 more like the third or forth after feisty  maybe.
[01:51] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: how can i see that?
[01:51] <dwidmann> feisty+2 = lts
[01:51] <intelikey> coreymon77 don't expect lts releases more often than every two years
[01:51] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: umm, did you set up a dhcp server on the server?
[01:53] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, but with help
[01:53] <intelikey> every body.   when dealing with normal -vs- lts releases it would be less confusing to use the numeric notation.   6.06  8.04  ...
[01:53] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, do you have a router?
[01:55] <intelikey> history Q.   was the first release of ubuntu  4.10 ?
[01:55] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: I believe so
[01:56] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes,  see this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6680/, there are    /etc/network/interfaces' and  /etc/dhcpd.conf
[01:57] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: why did you not use the router's dhcp server
[01:58] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: help me to use the router's dhcp server
[01:58] <gugu^> please
[01:58] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do you know the router's ip address and username/password
[01:59] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: routers ip adress is my ip adress?
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> no it's not
[01:59] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, the ip is probably <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <Admiral_Chicago> it's usually <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <gugu^> mine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:59] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: or <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:00] <intelikey> ah  these stupid drilling rigs !    so noisy !    they've been drilling on this section for six months now.
[02:00] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what type of router do you have?
[02:00] <intelikey> or longer i loose track of time
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, most routers have a setup program built in you get to through your browser, just type the ip into the address bar
[02:01] <Teknoenie> hi all
[02:01] <bonbonthejon> Teknoenie: hi
[02:01] <intelikey> Teknoenie
[02:01] <Teknoenie> any LaTeX experts out there?  And I mean the typesetting app btw ;)
[02:02] <intelikey> that's a bad joke.
[02:02] <gugu^> hitmanWilly:  I have internet on server, but i do not have on lan
[02:02] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didnt know
[02:03] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what ip do the clients have, your file doesn't look like it specifies what ips it should give
[02:03] <gugu^> hitmanWilly: maybe that setup program is the connection with my modem
[02:03] <gugu^> <IP_ADDRESS> , .......... 3 , ..........4
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> gugu^, are all the lan clients set up for dhcp?
[02:04] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06 tells you how to set up DHCP
[02:04] <gugu^> hitmanWilly: yes maybe, i didn`t konow how to configure my clients, but the ping from them to <IP_ADDRESS> is working
[02:05] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, thx
[02:06] <intelikey> i went and looked at computers yesterday.   looked at about 50 different lappies and half that many deskjobs,   every one of them came is windows pre-installed.   i didn't find one box without it, in three different stores...      what is the world comming to ?
[02:06] <Alarm> hello. how can i add a top bar like this one here: http://www.adslgr.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=15265&d=1172520528
[02:07] <intelikey> s/is windows/with windows/
[02:07] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: dell is supposedly starting to sell no-os systems
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> maybe
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> if they feel like it
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> plus HP has a few empty OS ones
[02:07] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: that page requires a user accound, and its in greek
[02:07] <Alarm> ops sorry
[02:08] <intelikey> well i used to like dell hardware.   but i've never liked their business practices.
[02:08] <hitmanWilly> dell == crap
[02:08] <intelikey> they build some rock solid servers.
[02:08] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  actually its the top bar that many people use on kde ,and add on it shortcuts. not the taskbar. but cant find . did add extented task bar, kas bar but non of them was
[02:08] <intelikey> 12 years ago   heh
[02:09] <surgy> hi
[02:09] <hitmanWilly> desktop side just sux, tho
[02:09] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: there is Mac OS-like menu bar, or you could just add another panel
[02:10] <intelikey> Alarm right click the pannel and select add new panel
[02:10] <Alarm> bobesponja,  no i dont mean the mac os menu bar, i mean a simple bar where i  can place some shortcuts on it for example
[02:10] <markelhas> hi ppl, i've removed the systray info from my kubuntu how can ai add it again?
[02:10] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: right click the panel and do add new panel
[02:11] <Alarm> ok did that
[02:11] <bonbonthejon> markelhas: right click the panel and add an applet
[02:11] <intelikey> Alarm then right click the new panel and add what you will
[02:11] <Alarm> the point is that it takes the options as the main (bottom) panel
[02:11] <markelhas> bonbonthejon: humm can't find the systray there
[02:11] <Alarm> for example uses the same transparency
[02:12] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: can you find another picture of what you want
[02:12] <intelikey> Alarm yes it defaults to the same options.    if you want you can run gnome-panel inside of kde
[02:12] <Alarm> is there any way i can use individual settings for each pannel ? like difference transparency . size and so on ?
[02:12] <intelikey> or even another panel  like blackbox's panel
[02:13] <Alarm> i see. okie thank you very much. i guess i will have to try on my own from now on
[02:13] <markelhas> bonbonthejon: ok find it :P thnks
[02:13] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: I think there is a dropdown box to change the panels, but itis hiddne by default, there is a little trick to show it
[02:13] <SpAwN> !iso
[02:13] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[02:13] <Alarm> okie, thank you a lot
[02:14] <intelikey> Alarm maybe you didn't catch what i was saying.  you can have different panal applications running inside the same desktop.   that will give them totally independant settings.
[02:14] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: you can also try kxdock
[02:15] <Alarm> intelikey,  the point is i have to find how to do that dude
[02:15] <Alarm> what i want actually is the upper bar to be transparent , and the bottom one not. now how i will do that, i guess thats something i will have to google :)
[02:16] <intelikey> Alarm like i said    install and run.     apt-get install gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-panel-dbg  ;gnome-panel
[02:16] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: you can edit the kde panels independently, let me find the trick
[02:17] <Alarm> ok, 2 different options. its nice to be able to choose :)
[02:17] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: or try kxdocker, looks like OSX
[02:17] <intelikey> Alarm bonbonthejon says he's done that.   i haven't done that.   i have used different panel apps.  that lets you have one setup one way and another another way.
[02:18] <Alarm> got what u mean
[02:18] <Alarm> i will check on google both kxdocker and gnome-panel
[02:18] <Alarm> thank you a lot
[02:19] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: if you add another kicker panel, you can edit them seperately, you just need to do "touch ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc"
[02:19] <intelikey> one with auto hide and transparent one locked in place and always on top with background image...   that sort of thing.     i have done that.     so if you fail with configuring kicker  you can try that too.  ^   but keeping it all kde may be preferable to you.
[02:20] <Alarm> ok. i will save that, at the moment i am looking at kxdock
[02:20] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: their is telling how to set up ssh, not dhcp
[02:20] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: disable dhcp on the server, then try to to get a new address from the client
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: does the server have 2 NICs or just one?
[02:21] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  just one last question, is it possible on kxdocker to add this bar on the top , and the main taskbar on the bottom ? its kind of upside down :)
[02:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: what is NIC? the server have to ethernet cards
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: I assume
[02:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: what is NIC? the server have 2 ethernet cards
[02:21] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: network cards
[02:21] <intelikey> just move them where you want them.
[02:22] <intelikey> drag and drop
[02:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, 2 NICs
[02:22] <the_hammer> ok i got everything of sun-java6 installed and a ton of flash stuff and other java stuff and still cant play movie trailers
[02:22] <the_hammer> what all do i need?
[02:22] <Alarm> unfortunatelly on every snapshot its placed the main on the top and the ext. bar on the bottom.
[02:22] <Alarm> ok i will try them
[02:22] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, one goes to the dsl the other goes to the router, I assume?
[02:23] <gugu^> yes, eth0 to dsl, and eth1 to router
[02:23] <bonbonthejon> ok, and did you configure the router at all
[02:23] <intelikey> it you have a short screen monitor putting the panels on the sides makes sense.
[02:24] <the_hammer> E: j2sdk1.4-doc: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:24] <the_hammer> i get that alot to
[02:24] <the_hammer> anyone else?
[02:24] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  installed. how can i find it now ? should i restart X , is there placed any option somewhere?
[02:24] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: try reconfigureing the package
[02:24] <the_hammer> how
[02:24] <bonbonthejon> Alarm: i havent played with kxdocer, so I dont know
[02:24] <Alarm> okie.
[02:25] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: i think "sudo dpkg-reconfigure package"
[02:26] <intelikey> i also looked at a lot of shord screen monitors/displays yesterday.  i personally don't see any advantage in having a short screen.
[02:26] <intelikey> s/shord/short/
[02:26] <SolidSource> anyone know where to change the text color of the task bar?
[02:26] <intelikey> SolidSource kcontrol
[02:28] <SolidSource> nvm
[02:29] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ??
[02:29] <Alarm> bonbonthejon,  just for info, the touch ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc" doesnt really work...
[02:29] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: maybe yes, it works last week(LAN) , but i have removed the eth1, an now i put it back and its not working
[02:29] <Alarm> but thanks for searching for me
[02:30] <intelikey> the_hammer sudo dpkg --configure -a || sudo apt-get install -f
[02:30] <surgy> hi intelikey
[02:30] <intelikey> surgy
[02:31] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: does eth1 have an ip
[02:31] <intelikey> "~/.kde/share/config/kicker*" Alarm would be where kde stores all your personal settings concerning the panel.
[02:31] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes, <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:32] <bonbonthejon> intelikey: that touch command is the suggested way to get settings to allow editing more than one panel
[02:32] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: and eth1 can ping client thru the router, and the client can ping eth1?
[02:33] <intelikey> bonbonthejon making a blank runtime configuration file alone probably wont do it.  adding the right information to it would.     but then again with kde one never knows.
[02:33] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: only client can ping eth1,
[02:33] <the_hammer> dpkg: error processing j2sdk1.4-doc (--configure):
[02:34] <the_hammer> goes on saying i have to go grab a file
[02:34] <the_hammer> from the site
[02:34] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you set up dns?
[02:34] <the_hammer> This package is an installer package, it does not actually contain the
[02:34] <the_hammer> J2SDK documentation.
[02:35] <the_hammer> stupid to have sun-java6 in the synaptic
[02:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ops, sorry now i have cheked, and eth1 can ping client, and the client can ping eth1
[02:35] <the_hammer> considering its not the full and/or correct files
[02:35] <the_hammer> should have someone remove them
[02:35] <intelikey> the_hammer final word on the dpkg command ?   and did the apt-get command run ?
[02:35] <the_hammer> save others here alot of problems
[02:35] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you setup dns?
[02:36] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: where on the server or on client
[02:36] <the_hammer> (choose the non-update version if this is the first installation).
[02:36] <the_hammer> Please visit
[02:36] <the_hammer>     http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
[02:36] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: bind9 on the server?
[02:36] <intelikey> sounds simple enough the_hammer
[02:36] <crystufer2000> Okay, so my second monitor is useless in linux....?
[02:37] <intelikey> crystufer2000 why's that ?
[02:37] <intelikey> !dualhead
[02:37] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[02:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: waht is bind9? and no i didn`t set up dnd
[02:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: waht is bind9? and no i didn`t set up dns
[02:38] <intelikey> !Xinerama
[02:38] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:38] <shriphani> a few questions
[02:38] <crystufer2000> intelikey: I get just a bunch of garbage if I enable it.
[02:38] <shriphani> does amarok support the 80gb ipod ?
[02:38] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: run "netstat -rn" on the clients to see if they have a gateway
[02:38] <intelikey> crystufer2000 been to those two pages ?   ^
[02:39] <crystufer2000> I'm looking at them now.
[02:39] <the_hammer> jdk-6-linux-i586.bin have this now and not sure what to do with it
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> the_hammer, run it as sudo
[02:40] <the_hammer> i did
[02:40] <rfschmid> Does anyone here use BasKet?
[02:40] <the_hammer> unknown bash
[02:40] <hitmanWilly> whoa
[02:40] <the_hammer> hammer@LAPPY:~$ sudo ./jdk-6-linux-i586.bin
[02:40] <the_hammer> sudo: ./jdk-6-linux-i586.bin: command not found
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: do "sudo chmod +x jdk..."
[02:41] <busfahrer> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 6.10 and everytime I click the update Icon or want to run "add/remove programs" I get "su returned an error". How can this be on a fresh, vanilla install?
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> the_hammer: then run it
[02:41] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: there is something interesting, one minute and i give you a pasebin
[02:42] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, run su in a terminal and patebin the output
[02:42] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: su works fine.
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, do you have a root password set?
[02:43] <intelikey> if su    without a username works you are not on a default ubuntu system.
[02:43] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: I think it works now, let me relog and check again :-) (thanks so far)
[02:44] <intelikey> if su    works he has a root password.
[02:44] <hitmanWilly> oh yeah...duh
[02:44] <intelikey> or God forbid, a passwordless root login.
[02:45] <intelikey> which is quite possable.
[02:45] <hitmanWilly> ahhh! thats a scary thought
[02:45] <intelikey> and extreemly windowsish.
[02:46] <intelikey> all it takes is sudo passwd -d root       any you have enabled passwordless root login.
[02:46] <busfahrer> Nope, doesnt work yet
[02:46] <busfahrer> still get su returned an error
[02:46] <busfahrer> I did set a root password.
[02:46] <Alarm> how can i find on which repo is a specific package ? i found a package that i want to install but seems that the gr.ubuntu server doesnt respont. and want to change the repo
[02:47] <intelikey> but equally true  sudo passwd -l root    will stop such tom-foolery
[02:47] <badpenguin4543> i am using an nVidia Corporation NV11GL [Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go]  (rev b2) video adapter in kubuntu 6.10, and have installed the driver 'nvidia-glx-legacy', however i have no 3D acceleration at all. for example, no openGL screensavers work. would anyone have a suggestion?
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, does it error out before or after it asks for the password?
[02:48] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: before. but the behaviour seems to vary, I have been asked for a password before, and once I succeeded in getting into the program.
[02:48] <intelikey> badpenguin4543 only thing i could do is sujest revisiting the wiki on howto setup nvidia   !ati
[02:48] <intelikey> !ati | badpenguin4543
[02:48] <ubotu> badpenguin4543: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:48] <badpenguin4543> ty intelikey
[02:48] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7734/
[02:48] <the_hammer> this si stup0id
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, try reinstalling kdesu from the cmd line
[02:48] <superlinux> hello i crashed adept thrying to install wnware the command  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  dosen't fix it how can i solve?
[02:49] <Sanne> Alarm: you can search on packages.ubuntu.com for packages, it tells you the repository it is in
[02:49] <Alarm> ok found it. thanks
[02:49] <the_hammer> i manually downloaded and installed then ran update -- upgrade and still back to original error
[02:49] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: the thing that confuses me is the fact that this is a "default" install. How can something this basic be messed up?
[02:50] <superlinux> hello i crashed adept thrying to install wnware the command  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a  dosen't fix it how can i solve?
[02:50] <superlinux> !wnware
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, did you download the install cd or get one shipped?
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wnware - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: download
[02:50] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: is that the server's?
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, could be a corrupted medium
[02:50] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: no client`s
[02:50] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: true, I will check the install CD
[02:51] <superlinux> any one able to help me hre?
[02:51] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: it has a self-checking function right?
[02:51] <intelikey> busfahrer is this a kdesu error you are having ?
[02:51] <busfahrer> intelikey:  yes
[02:51] <jhutchins> busfahrer: Not really, the packages are supposed to.  You could have run into some hardware conflict or problem.
[02:51] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do ifconfig on the client and tell me the ip address
[02:51] <intelikey> busfahrer in a konsole do     sudo echo yes
[02:51] <jhutchins> busfahrer: so we know adept isn't working, what IS happening?
[02:51] <coreymon77> jhutchins: so no more ideas?
[02:52] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Nope.
[02:52] <busfahrer> aha!
[02:52] <busfahrer> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Feb 27 03:25:43 2007
[02:52] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: and this is on server http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7735/
[02:52] <jhutchins> coreymon77: From here on out I'd just be transcribing google hits for you.
[02:52] <Alarm> btw, would be any difference if i would add: deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted  and deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted ? can i add both in the repo file. somehow i get this error: Err http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe kooldock 0.3-1ubuntu2
[02:52] <Alarm>   Cannot initiate the connection to gr.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:648:2000:de::211). - connect (101 Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:648:2000:de::211 80]
[02:52] <Sanne> the_hammer: there's sun-java6-jdk in edgy-backports (in case you want to install that, if I read correctly)
[02:52] <busfahrer> I had to switch my time back one hour since there was no option for "Bios clock is set to local time"
[02:52] <busfahrer> (is there?)
[02:52] <intelikey> there you go   clock problem    wait an hour and all should work again.
[02:52] <coreymon77> jhutchins: im pretty much up the creek now arent i?
[02:52] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, yeah there is actually
[02:53] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: clients ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, like I said, we know it works for most people.
[02:53] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: Where? didnt find it in kcontrl
[02:53] <intelikey> and there is an option for the "tzconfig"
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Did lspci show anything but a plain vanilla soundblaster?
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> busfahrer, i did it on the install
[02:53] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Ensonic or anything?
[02:53] <coreymon77> jhutchins: funny, ive heard otherwise that this card is actually notoriously difficult to get working
[02:53] <superlinux> i crashed adept installign wmware and the fix command dosen't work can u solve me as i get this message from adept now that im locked couse the install is still running
[02:53] <busfahrer> hitmanWilly: well is there a config file that i can adjust
[02:53] <Sanne> Alarm: try to put both in. If it won't work, there should be an error that tells you. Then you could comment out the line that doesn't work temporarily and use the other one.
[02:54] <Alarm> okie
[02:54] <coreymon77> Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938
[02:54] <pingveno> I'm trying to get Electric Sheep running as the KDE screen saver in fullscreen, but it only runs in a smaller window right now
[02:54] <jhutchins> superlinux: Is there still an open adept window?
[02:54] <superlinux> no
[02:54] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Go ye forth and google.
[02:54] <superlinux> but as install crushed i must kill it 1
[02:54] <cpk1> !aptfix | superlinux
[02:54] <ubotu> superlinux: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:54] <intelikey> busfahrer crazy thing is, the default kde setting is to expect the hardware clock to be set to local time.   heh
[02:54] <pingveno> For that matter, just the electricsheep command does a small screen
[02:54] <superlinux> that command dosen't work
[02:54] <coreymon77> funny enough though
[02:54] <superlinux>  that's why im asking
[02:54] <cpk1> how doesnt it work?
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: ps ax should give you a process number which you can sudo kill -hup <number>
[02:55] <busfahrer> intelikey: that confuses me :-p
[02:55] <superlinux> can u make me do killall?
[02:55] <cpk1> no
[02:55] <mrbrdo> hey is it possible to set an image or a color for hover of taskbar buttons (when you mouseover over the window taskbar buttons - it's always just grey)
[02:55] <n8k99> intelikey you aren't dual booting on that machine are you?
[02:55] <intelikey> busfahrer i said "kde"'s default.   not "ubuntu's" default.
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: Sure, sudo killall works if you know the process name.
[02:55] <superlinux> i can't belive how adpet is buggy btw
[02:55] <coreymon77> jhutchins: when i open up kmix, it says in the bottom right corner "Esoniq AudioPCI"
[02:55] <cpk1> how doesnt sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock work superlinux?
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ServerGuide#Dhcpd tells how to setup dhcpd and bind
[02:55] <superlinux> process is wmware
[02:55] <jhutchins> superlinux: Believe it or not, it's one of the least buggy GUI's.
[02:55] <intelikey> n8k99 yeah  but i'm not having clock trubble.
[02:55] <busfahrer> i think i found the config file. brb
[02:56] <jhutchins> superlinux: That's why most of us use the CLI sooner or later.
[02:56] <pingveno> adept still is very useful
[02:56] <superlinux> 1 sec i paste u it cpkl
[02:56] <jhutchins> superlinux: It's just one less thing to load the system, one less to go wrong.
[02:56] <pingveno> especially for filtering & tags
[02:56] <mrbrdo> hey is it possible to set an image or a color for hover of taskbar buttons (when you mouseover over the window taskbar buttons - it's always just grey)
[02:56] <n8k99> intelikey: ok what trubble are you having?
[02:56] <n8k99> ^_^
[02:57] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Hm.  could be it's using an ensoniq driver instead of the SB, I dunno.
[02:57] <superlinux> !fix adept
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <jhutchins> coreymon77: I remember I had a lot of trouble with ensoniqs.
[02:57] <intelikey> trying to answer all these stinking questions at one time, n8k99    ;/
[02:57] <coreymon77> jhutchins: funny, ive heard otherwise that this card is actually notoriously difficult to get working
[02:57] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix | superlinux
[02:57] <ubotu> superlinux: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:57] <superlinux> when i do that tells me it's locked
[02:57] <pingveno> How would I turn off the system bell for the console (as in, Ctrl-Alt-F1)? It's driving my roommates nuts.
[02:57] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: or http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html has a much easier web-based way to set stuff up
[02:58] <superlinux> that's why im here
[02:58] <superlinux> and some other process has it
[02:58] <coreymon77> jhutchins: how can we find ouy if its doing that or not
[02:58] <bonbonthejon> pingveno: there is a configureation option
[02:58] <superlinux> that's the crashed install of wmware jhu
[02:58] <intelikey> until rashed on you and your database is locked, try
[02:59] <coreymon77> jhutchins: using the esoniq driver instead of the creative one
[02:59] <superlinux> is snaypetic so buggy as adept?
[02:59] <jhutchins> superlinux: Ok, do it manually.  sudo fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock then killall processes shown in ps, then delete the lock file (rm), and then try again.
[02:59] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, thx, i`ll try
[02:59] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, settings -> system bell
[02:59] <jhutchins> coreymon77: Well, lsmod shows which modules are loaded, but without googling the card model we don't know what driver it _should_ be using.
[02:59] <intelikey>           this in konsole: A sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock ;do false ;done ;sudo dpkg --configure -a       <<< use more force.
[03:00] <superlinux> Cannot stat processes: No such file or directory
[03:00] <superlinux> /var/lib/dpkg/lock:  21433
[03:00] <intelikey> what.....
[03:00] <the_hammer> http://pastebin.ca/373882
[03:00] <bordy> Superlinux: I prefer synaptic over adept any day.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:01] <pingveno> I'm just having trouble with getting it for the console
[03:01] <intelikey> or maybe even change -vki  to just  -k
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, you mean for the actual console as in text only?
[03:01] <pingveno> yeah
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> that im not sure about
[03:02] <pingveno> not that I use it that much, but it would still be nice not to kill everyone in the room
[03:02] <pingveno> hmmm
[03:02] <hitmanWilly> disable pc speaker in alsamixer?
[03:02] <superlinux> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7736/ there jhu
[03:02] <intelikey> pingveno console question ?
[03:02] <superlinux> this is what come out
[03:02] <pingveno> ah, well, that might be a bit of overload ;-)
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> oh well
[03:03] <superlinux> what i do now?
[03:03] <pingveno> intelikey:yeah
[03:03] <hitmanWilly> pingveno, probably in the bash config somewhere
[03:04] <crystufer2000> does having a binary graphics driver mean that I can't use the nvidia 3d accelerated graphics driver I allready have?
[03:04] <intelikey> pingveno setterm -bfreq 0
[03:04] <pingveno> oh, I think I found a way
[03:04] <jhutchins> the_hammer: So did you download the java zip, chown it, and put it in /tmp?
[03:05] <intelikey> or 1
[03:05] <pingveno> excellent!
[03:05] <crystufer2000_> Yo. Is a binary graphics driver different from my accelerated driver?
[03:05] <pingveno> it works
[03:05] <pingveno> thank you
[03:05] <crystufer2000_> for graphics*
[03:05] <the_hammer> i downloaded  it to the Desktop and extracted it and its empty
[03:05] <superlinux> still there jhutchins ?
[03:05] <cpk1> intelikey: that stay set after a reboot?
[03:05] <the_hammer> yet the zip is 32.8mb?
[03:06] <intelikey> pingveno no.  it's shell/session only.    so you can add it to a users .bash_profile  or .bashrc  or .profile
[03:06] <the_hammer> so copy it to tmp
[03:06] <jhutchins> superlinux: Ok, sudo kill -9 21433 21442 21448 21450
[03:06] <intelikey> pingveno shouldn't affect other users.
[03:06] <chavo> pingveno, just put - set bell-style none, in /etc/inputrc
[03:06] <jhutchins> the_hammer:
[03:06] <jhutchins> the_hammer: ?
[03:07] <jhutchins> the_hammer: So did you download the java zip, chown it, and put it in /tmp?
[03:07] <intelikey> chavo that is system wide.   if that's what he wants.
[03:07] <the_hammer> i mnaually d/l and moved it to /tmp from Desktop
[03:07] <jhutchins> the_hammer: who owns it?
[03:07] <the_hammer> using the super user
[03:07] <superlinux> jhutchins,  u advise me more simple distro as im a begginer and nead all gui
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: Windows.
[03:08] <superlinux> so u saying i can't use linux?
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: Or actually Mac, which is BSD with top-dressing.
[03:08] <pingveno> okay, I'm having a bit of fun switching between X11 and terminal
[03:08] <the_hammer> ok ya know what super user is?
[03:08] <superlinux> well i just nead a gui kde distro
[03:08] <superlinux> couse im not very familiar whit shell
[03:08] <jhutchins> superlinux: The thing about linux is that you have to learn a LOT of stuff right at the beginning, and it's NEVER going to be all GUI.
[03:08] <intelikey> pingveno did you you did catch all that info thrown at you at one time ?
[03:09] <the_hammer> i moved j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip from Desktop into /tmp
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: The command line is one of the things that makes it so powerful.
[03:09] <cpk1> pingveno: you have some video files on hand? try mplayer -vo caca -quiet somevideo while you are in terminal =P
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: You might try linspire.
[03:09] <jhutchins> superlinux: See, the thing about all GUI systems is that they still have these problems, there's just no way to fix them.
[03:09] <superlinux> zen@zen-desktop:~$ sudo kill -9 21433 21442 21448 21450
[03:09] <superlinux> zen@zen-desktop:~$
[03:09] <superlinux> did it work?
?
[03:10] <chavo> oh you can use ~/.inputrc then
[03:10] <jhutchins> superlinux: ps ax, look and see if those programs are still there.
i moved j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip from Desktop into /tmp
[03:10] <jhutchins> the_hammer: ls -l /tmp, see who owns it.
[03:10] <intelikey> chavo yes that would be user specific.   will that affect X ?
[03:10] <jhutchins> the_hammer: should be root:root
[03:10] <chavo> no
[03:10] <intelikey> ok.
[03:11] <intelikey> i wasn't sure is the reason i didn't go there.
[03:11] <cpk1> the system bell going off when you cant tab complete is the most annoying idea ever
[03:11] <chavo> you need, xset b off for that
-rw-r--r-- 1 root   root   34397778 2007-02-26 20:03 j2sdk-1_4_2-doc.zip
[03:11] <cpk1> whoever thought to implement needs to be taken out back and shot
[03:11] <superlinux> yes they are still there damn
[03:11] <jhutchins> I think I see the problem.
[03:12] <chavo> cpk1, you can turn it off, thats what this whole discussion is about
[03:12] <cpk1> O.o they lived after a kill -9?
[03:12] <superlinux> i just have to wait pclinuxos 2007 jhutchins  and things will radicaly change
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Have another look at your error message.  They specify different files, different version numbers.
[03:12] <cpk1> chavo: I know, but who in their right mind would want it on in the first place
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I think your installer and your zip don't match version numbers.
[03:12] <chavo> I do for 1
[03:12] <superlinux> isen't there a way to kill everything in adept couse thy still run
[03:12] <cpk1> @.@
[03:12] <intelikey> cpk1 shooting is a little harsh there    just ham sting them   ;/
[03:12] <Alarm> is there any way to add kooldock on the top instead bottom of the screen ?
[03:12] <cpk1> hehe
[03:12] <jhutchins> the_hammer: You will be happy to know that java will eventually be available under the GNU license and therefore available as a .deb.
[03:13] <the_hammer> the error i got i went to the site and got the file they said
[03:13] <intelikey> string
[03:13] <the_hammer> and put it where it said
[03:13] <jhutchins> superlinux: Most reliable is to use ps ax to find the PID and kill that.
[03:13] <cpk1> is there a special reason the_hammer doesnt want to get java from the repos?
[03:13] <the_hammer> but what should i do to see if the error is gone apt-get update,upgrade?
[03:13] <superlinux> im going crazy again
[03:13] <jhutchins> cpk1: Dunno, maybe he needs that particular sun java.
[03:13] <intelikey> version 6 ?
[03:13] <the_hammer> i did that
[03:13] <the_hammer> and thats what caused all this
[03:13] <superlinux> damn me and when i installed kubuntu
[03:14] <superlinux> i really hate deb distros
[03:14] <the_hammer> i used synaptic to get sun-java6
[03:14] <chavo> Alarm, run kooldock -o to get the configuration window. not sure if you can put it on top tho
[03:14] <jhutchins> the_hammer: If you install something that's _not_ a .deb, apt knows nothing about it, and will ignore it when you ask for updates.
[03:14] <the_hammer> and when it installed nothing but problems
[03:14] <intelikey> superlinux is it a binary package hatred or just the debian package format ?
[03:14] <superlinux> future is rpm and click n'
[03:14] <Alarm> chavo,  i am running configuration i dont see any otpion thats why i am asking that dude..
[03:14] <pingveno> well, off to dinner
[03:14] <superlinux> all deb distros
[03:14] <the_hammer> ok now that i have the right file what do i do now to see if its fixed?
[03:14] <pingveno> chow
[03:15] <superlinux> they suck
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: The main problem here is that you're using a GUI wrapper, which died but left all the running programs behind.
[03:15] <pingveno> deb distros?
[03:15] <chavo> woah little snappy eh sorry
[03:15] <intelikey> superlinux what about rpm based ?
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: If you'd been going directly from the console, if it died it would be dead.
[03:15] <superlinux> so what i have to do put snypetic?
[03:15] <superlinux> never had a problem whit yast or zen
[03:15] <superlinux> or c n'r
[03:15] <jhutchins> superlinux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
what do i do nw to see if the error is fixed
[03:16] <superlinux> now linspire can give us all her repos that's great whit one click and free
[03:16] <cpk1> speaking of cnr ubuntu is also going to use cnr
[03:16] <the_hammer> now*
[03:16] <jhutchins> superlinux: yast has serious problems, you're lucky if you didn't encounter 'em.
[03:16] <intelikey> cpk1   cnr ?
[03:16] <superlinux> ok ill keep like this till pclinuxos 2007 comes out as i found my distro
?
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Well, I'd make sure I downloaded the exact files the installer specifies, and put that in /tmp.
[03:17] <superlinux> i don't feel to read get sick only to think i have to learn all that stuff i want gui click click and have fun
[03:17] <the_hammer> i did that
[03:17] <superlinux> no problems no nothing
[03:17] <the_hammer> then what do i do?
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: I may be wrong, but it looked like the version numbers didn't match.
[03:17] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, click n' run, linspire's package manager
[03:17] <superlinux> my dream is to trow shell out the window
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Find the docs for the installer and figure out what they want.
[03:17] <cpk1> I think you can buy non-free stuff from it intelikey
[03:17] <the_hammer> i did that tho
[03:17] <jhutchins> the_hammer: Find the support channel for the package you're installing java in order to run, and ask them
[03:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly frontend to dpkg    or new package manager ?
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, dpkg or rpm
[03:18] <jhutchins> the_hammer: sourceforge or freshmeat will probably know who the maintainers are and where their support lists are.
[03:18] <superlinux> sorry jhutchins  i got wrong night to mess whit linux thanx for help do
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> intelikey, mostly dpkg tho
[03:18] <jhutchins> the_hammer: See, the problem you're having isn't with anything that's packaged by kubuntu, it's something entirely outside.
[03:18] <superlinux> problem is i got no cd's to change distro otherwise got so many distros here
[03:19] <the_hammer> ok
[03:19] <intelikey> k   so basiclly   it's gui implentation of mc's  "dive into the package"  approach....  got it.
[03:19] <jhutchins> superlinux: Yeah, once you learn this stuff the power is amazing, it's worth the time.
[03:19] <eric_> so im not sure if this is what caused it, but i did some updates about 2 days ago, which included a kernel upgrade, and i lost my internet
[03:19] <eric_> did anyone else have this problem?
[03:19] <superlinux> i got upset now couse i messed up os that's why im speaking like this
[03:19] <jhutchins> superlinux: Actually, I recommend that people continue to dual-boot so that they can drop back to what they're familiar with and get work done.
[03:20] <superlinux> so can u give me a way to fix whit out going crazy jhutchins
[03:20] <superlinux> your right
[03:20] <jhutchins> superlinux: Remind me what the root problem is, I'm juggling too many threads.
[03:20] <superlinux> but it's my fault that i want to do hard things like emulate distros on wmware when i can barealy do sudo root
[03:20] <cpk1> superlinux: the simplest way would be to reboot then all the adept processes will be killed, otherwise kill the appropiate PID's
[03:20] <superlinux> i did reboot
[03:21] <superlinux> i learned not to trust adept anymore do
[03:21] <intelikey> superlinux if you are new to linux.  don't think that 10,000 years windows expearance has tought you anything usefull about your computer.  you like any other new linux user are having to start at the basics and learn the whole thing for 'scratch'
[03:21] <superlinux> i know
[03:21] <superlinux> this the lesson for wanting to do hard things like emuluate and install isos whit wmware
[03:22] <superlinux> im quite good whit windows inteal here i suck do
[03:22] <jhutchins> superlinux: Do you maybe mean VMWare?
[03:22] <superlinux> inteal*
[03:22] <superlinux> yes
[03:22] <jarn_> Is there an MP3 encoder that will convert FLAC tags to ID3 tags?
[03:22] <superlinux> that crashed up my adept
[03:22] <jhutchins> superlinux: Have you read the DOS-Windows-Linux hwoto?
[03:22] <superlinux> damn him
[03:22] <superlinux> now
[03:22] <superlinux> no*
[03:23] <intelikey> !flac
[03:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:23] <jhutchins> Sorry, guys, I gotta run.
[03:23] <superlinux> but im doing fine till i do basics intel problems start when i want to act as power user im not
[03:23] <superlinux> doing things like this for example
[03:23] <illinux> \o
[03:23] <illinux> !nvidia
[03:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:23] <cpk1> jarn_: if you did a good job of naming the songs then musicbrainz picard shouldnt have trouble tagging them
[03:23] <superlinux> for the rest im able to do everything i nead till now even update kde
[03:24] <jarn_> cpk1: I didn't name them based on their data. I tagged them based on their data.
[03:24] <superlinux> should i reinstall then jhutchins  kubuntu?
[03:24] <superlinux> usualy when adept crashed it fixed strange this time dosen't
[03:25] <intelikey> superlinux congrats on graduating the first parts of linux knowledge.    quick studies make more noise when the break things    :)
[03:26] <Leesus> christ someone help me
[03:26] <superlinux> eheh i was nearly there to run a entire dvd whit VMware till the crash
[03:26] <superlinux> i got 14 distros in there
[03:26] <neptunepink> help.... I have a laptop, and it is continously scrolling down!
[03:27] <superlinux> what do i have to look for whit ps ax VMware intel?
[03:27] <Leesus> would anyone know why my user password doesnt work for my su password?
[03:27] <intelikey> superlinux may i sujest.    drop into a console and run this     sudo killall5      and sudo dpkg --configure -a       if it works   sudo init 3     else    sudo init 6
[03:27] <neptunepink> Like, button mb5 up the wazoo, or something
[03:27] <n8k99> neptunepink:  is your down arrow key depressed
[03:27] <hitmanWilly> Lees
[03:27] <Leesus> yes
[03:27] <superlinux> thanx ill try
[03:28] <intelikey> Leesus     not su.    sudo
[03:28] <hitmanWilly> Leesus, sorry, premature enter
[03:28] <neptunepink> well, that might have been it.... :/ but it stopped, anyways
[03:28] <intelikey> !sudo | Leesus
[03:28] <ubotu> Leesus: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:28] <Leesus> alls I know, is I want to go to add/remove programs... and enter my user password and for it to work
[03:28] <Leesus> it does not
[03:29] <intelikey> Leesus run this test in a konsole.    sudo echo yes
[03:29] <illinux> on cloned system I have nvidia-glx installed just as in orig. system , now I want to use nvidia-glx and beryl
[03:29] <illinux> how do I kill x temporarily from ctrl-alt-f1
[03:29] <Leesus> sudo echo yes prompts a password in terminal
[03:29] <eric_> i get this error when booting
[03:29] <eric_> cannot enable RNG, aborting
[03:29] <intelikey> Leesus yes enter your password
[03:30] <Leesus> I cant enter it
[03:30] <intelikey> Leesus why not ?
[03:30] <Leesus> it stays blank... with the only key on my keyboard working being enter after I get to the password prompt
[03:30] <Leesus> its not a usb device
[03:30] <Jucato> Leesus: that's how you enter passwords in the command line on Linux
[03:30] <intelikey> yes it stays blank as far as reporting to the screen
[03:30] <the_hammer> ok i got the sunjava 6 installed correctly
[03:30] <Jucato> Leesus: you don't get feedback to what you're typing
[03:30] <sudoroot> that command frooze the os intel and had to reboot
[03:30] <the_hammer> finally!
[03:31] <sudoroot> killall5
[03:31] <the_hammer> but still unable to play movie trailers
[03:31] <Leesus> tried entering the password regardles... with no aterisks output to the screen... and it still fials
[03:31] <Leesus> fails*
[03:31] <Leesus> "sorry, try again"
[03:31] <intelikey> sudoroot it should have killed everything except the login console
[03:31] <Jucato> Leesus: yes, there wlll be no asterisks when you type the password
[03:31] <sudoroot> perfect i hope
[03:32] <sudoroot> o dp ps ax aging?
[03:32] <Leesus> regardless... output(aterisks) or not... it doesnt work when I input my password
[03:32] <sudoroot> again*
[03:32] <intelikey> sudoroot see if you can --configure now
[03:32] <Leesus> are you referring to me intelikey?
[03:33] <intelikey> Leesus no.;
[03:33] <sudoroot> ok what command i must do now?
[03:33] <sudoroot> got lost here sorry
[03:33] <Leesus> man im so confused
[03:33] <sudoroot> !adept
[03:33] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:33] <intelikey> sudoroot   sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:33] <sudoroot> thanx
[03:33] <intelikey> Leesus type    groups
[03:34] <intelikey> Leesus are you in    admin   ?
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro libssl0.9.7 (0.9.7k-3) ...
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.17-11 (<IP_ADDRESS>-11.1) ...
[03:34] <sudoroot> Configuro vmware-player-kernel-modules (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:34] <sudoroot> said this
[03:34] <Leesus> it lists my username then adm along with others in a line
[03:34] <sudoroot> configuro is configure
[03:34] <intelikey> sudoroot ok no    E:   messages
[03:34] <intelikey> sudoroot looks fixed.
[03:35] <Leesus> it says admin again at the end of the string of users
[03:35] <sudoroot> so now i try to install from shell vmware?
[03:35] <sudoroot> eheh thanx 1000 i hate this crashes must learn to use shell
[03:35] <intelikey> sudoroot yup
[03:35] <illinux> how to test nvidia-glx
[03:36] <Leesus> intelikey how do I know if im in admin?
[03:36] <sudoroot> says it' can't find vmware
[03:36] <intelikey> Leesus groups
[03:36] <sudoroot> whit sudo apt-get install vmware
[03:36] <sudoroot> but it's in adept so impossible
[03:37] <illinux> sudoroot:  learn shell asap
[03:37] <intelikey> sudoroot  apt-cache search vmware
[03:37] <Leesus> intelikey what do I do after I input groups in terminal
[03:37] <intelikey> look for admin in what it reports.
[03:37] <intelikey> Leesus ^
[03:37] <Leesus> its at the end of the line
[03:37] <Leesus> what about it?
[03:38] <intelikey> Leesus ok you are in the admin group
[03:38] <illinux> sudoroot: you want man:bash
[03:38] <Leesus> ok
[03:38] <illinux> man:bash in konqueror
[03:38] <intelikey> Leesus lets look into the sudoers file.    grep admin /etc/sudoers
[03:38] <sudoroot> it's vmware-player so will be sudo apt-get install vmware-player :D
[03:38] <Leesus> intelikey permission denied
[03:39] <sudoroot> if im not wrong
[03:39] <Leesus> wont let me look
[03:39] <intelikey> Leesus ok.  one other thing.    can you reset your password.    passwd
[03:40] <intelikey> Leesus in the konsole type.  passwd
[03:40] <Leesus> yeah, It lets me do that
[03:40] <intelikey> sudo echo yes
[03:40] <intelikey> enter the new password
[03:40] <sudoroot> u are right if u learn the commands it' s easy intel im just scared to learn
[03:41] <sudoroot> couse i fear it's to much stuff
[03:41] <intelikey> sudoroot given 6 months you'll use the cli more than the pointy clicky thingy
[03:41] <Leesus> why wouldnt it recognize my origional password?
[03:41] <Leesus> just out of curiousity
[03:41] <sudoroot> eheh so u think i have talent for linux as people tell me just scared ?
[03:42] <intelikey> Leesus i don't know.   maybe you "typo'd"
[03:42] <Leesus> ok, so after I echoed... im logged in now?
[03:42] <Leesus> for 15 min right?
[03:42] <intelikey> most of the linux problems i have are "pebcak"
[03:42] <Sanne> sudoroot: don't be overwhelmed of the whole journey, just make small steps like you can, and you'll get there :)
[03:42] <sudoroot> yes your right
[03:43] <intelikey> Leesus i think it will remember the password for about that long yes.
[03:43] <Leesus> great... now the applications wont load
[03:43] <sudoroot> i must not do all in 1 as i usual do but step by step day by day
[03:43] <sudoroot> as i installed the vmware player now sanne what u advise me to do try the 13 dvd distros i got or give up?
[03:43] <Leesus> my applications stay in the taskbar loading, for like 30 seconds then dissapears
[03:43] <sudoroot> 14*
[03:44] <ubuntu_>  I have REDHAT+win2k+win 98 - how easy is it to replace REDHAT with Kubuntu??
[03:44] <intelikey> Leesus run it from the konsole and see why.
[03:44] <Leesus> nevermind my password must have timed out and when I re-entered it booted successfully
[03:44] <intelikey> Leesus   kdesu <appname>    and you can use the tab key to complete appnames
[03:45] <intelikey> Leesus ok
[03:45] <Leesus> just out of curiosity... what would the konsole have told me?
[03:45] <sudoroot> what u advise me intelkey to use it as i made it finaly to install vmware and try the 14 distro dvd emulating em or give up?
[03:45] <Sanne> sudoroot: wow, I don't know... so many distros. What I did was, read up on some distros before install, decide to try and get to learn one (it was Debain at that time), read everything I could find, fix my problems and learn. After some years I then switched to Ubuntu. But that's just me, of course, do as youlike, have fun.
[03:45] <intelikey> Leesus but remember that FFR if something doesn't start   running it in a konsole will make error messages visable.
[03:46] <hendaus> can anyone help me how to configure kad firewalled on amule? thanx
[03:46] <sudoroot> well i want to try the last zenwalk i got ehre sane
[03:46] <sudoroot> sanne*
[03:46] <Leesus> intelikey, I dont follow. could you explain?
[03:46] <sudoroot> that's why im making all this fuss
[03:46] <sudoroot> to install that damn vmware
[03:46] <sudoroot> haah
[03:47] <sudoroot> well ill give it a try and see if i can make it as i did 30 why not do 31
[03:47] <sudoroot> and try run this vmware :D
[03:47] <Sanne> sudoroot: then try it. Maybe you're just the adventurous type ;)
[03:47] <sudoroot> ehe yes i love to test distros
[03:47] <intelikey> Leesus   if you click and nothing comes up   you open a konsole   and   type in the command name.     if no window opens there will be reasons (99.9% of the time)  in the konsole as to why nothing opened.
[03:48] <ubuntu_>  Q:  is it possible to replace Redhat with Kubuntu in multi boot system ??
[03:48] <illinux> ubuntu_ pls chg nick
[03:48] <Sanne> sudoroot: you will just learn your own way. But don't overwhelm yourself ;)
[03:48] <Leesus> what would the command name be? I like that, very informative way of doing things. thats awsome
[03:48] <hendaus> Sanne,  can u help friend
[03:48] <sudoroot> ok thanx for advise and intel for help
[03:48] <asaup> i have a problem with a router dlink
[03:49] <asaup> i can not connect to internet. someone said to me to edit my resolve.conf
[03:49] <illinux> ubuntu_ basically bkp important things and install from scratch . I think better use alternate CD and manual repartition
[03:49] <hendaus> Sanne,  can u help me how to configure kad firewalled on amule? thanx
[03:49] <asaup> but i do not remember the ip
[03:49] <asaup> can anyone help me
[03:49] <intelikey> Leesus depends on what you are trying to run.   the package manager  is "adept"     the file manager is  "konqueror"    the irc client is "konversation"    the email client is  "kmail"  and so forth
[03:50] <ubuntu_> Basically you are saying not to touch LILO??
[03:50] <Sanne> hendaus: hmm, I never used amule. Better ask the question to the whole channel, maybe somebody knows, I don't, sorry.
[03:51] <intelikey> Leesus in most cases the menu listing will pretty much reflect the actual command name.  but not always.   and if you don't know the command and can't find it you ask in here.
[03:51] <hendaus> oK,can anyone help me guys
[03:51] <Leesus> thanks so much, youve been very helpful
[03:51] <hendaus> coz everytime i open amule and kad is off
[03:51] <intelikey> Leesus example;     Q whats the name of the system settings app in the menu ?    A. kcontrol
[03:52] <Leesus> I see
[03:52] <intelikey> clear enough Leesus ?
[03:52] <Leesus> I understand
[03:53] <intelikey> ok   later guys.  i'll be back around after rounds       (i think)
[03:53] <Leesus> is there a good resource for alternatives to the programs provided? ie: using firefox over konq...
[03:53] <Leesus> and I definitely dont like the layout of the instant messaging software
[03:54] <hendaus> please friends i want it urgent coz i am at my friends house
[03:54] <intelikey> Leesus  use your favorite package manager frontend and search for alternatives to them...    apt-cache search file manager | less
[03:55] <Leesus> package manager front end? as in the software that is bundled with the distro?
[03:55] <Newbie>  I am new to Kubuntu.. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system
[03:55] <lotusleaf> Leesus: if you don't like something, by virtue of open source you may change it or pay someone else to if you can't code :)
[03:55] <hitmanWilly> Leesus, either adept or synaptic
[03:56] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: can you help me? what adress can i put on address ranges?
[03:56] <Leesus> I thought adept just automatically updates the distro and its containing software bundled with. Im interested in removing and adding programs... is that clearer?
[03:56] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: i guess <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>, how ever it puts it
[03:57] <Leesus> nevermind, I figured it out
[03:57] <hendaus> is there a mIRC for linux?
[03:57] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok thx
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not that i know of
[03:57] <Newbie>  I am new to Kubuntu.. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system..  Has anyone tried like this? Not sure how to do  LILO/GRUB conversion
[03:58] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  do u know about amule?
[03:58] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not really, usually use bittorrent myself
[03:59] <Newbie>  I need your expert opinion .. I am wondering how easy it is to replace Redhat with Kubuntu on my multi boot system..  Has anyone tried like this? Not sure how to do  LILO/GRUB conversion
[03:59] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  so how can i get this help,who knows about amule?
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, fairly easy, the installer usually autoconfigs the settings right
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> !amule | hendaus
[03:59] <ubotu> hendaus: amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> no link, huh
[04:00] <Newbie> %2C  what is the backout plan if things dont work ?????
[04:00] <Newbie>   what is the backout plan if things dont work ?????
[04:00] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, do it by hand
[04:00] <hendaus> ubotu, i have the new one,it works fine but kad doesnot work
[04:01] <the_hammer> how do i get my floppy to read,all that jazz?
[04:01] <Newbie>  hitman... could you explain lil bit more plz
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, ubotu is a bot, i just piped the output to you
[04:01] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  how can i make kad works?
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> Newbie, well, you could backup your current menu.lst and use that for reference
[04:02] <hendaus> just i need this urgent coz i am at my friends  house
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, i dont really know that much about kad, i was hoping ubotu would have a link to an FAQ or something
[04:03] <Leesus> how do I install software that isnt downloaded through adept?
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, try googling for it
[04:03] <the_hammer> anyine tell me why my floppy wonmt work
[04:04] <the_hammer> ?
[04:04] <hendaus> hitmanWilly, i try on google several times,but i want anyone knows about amule
[04:04] <the_hammer> help pls
[04:04] <the_hammer> floppy in and not working
[04:04] <hitmanWilly> the_hammer, did you mount it?
[04:05] <ghetek> how do i make all exe files automatically run in wine when i double click them?
[04:05] <the_hammer> how
[04:05] <the_hammer> i dont see nay floppy icons
[04:05] <the_hammer> any*
[04:06] <hitmanWilly> !mount | the_hammer
[04:06] <ubotu> the_hammer: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:07] <ghetek> !exe
[04:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about exe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:07] <ghetek> damn
[04:07] <ghetek> !wine
[04:07] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:07] <the_hammer> !fstab
[04:07] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:07] <ghetek> !wine doubleclick .exe?
[04:07] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[04:07] <ghetek> ubotu: no
[04:07] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[04:08] <ghetek> sigh
[04:08] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  i used before mIRC client for windows,is there any application for linux?
[04:08] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not mirc, but several other good irc clients
[04:09] <hendaus> hitmanWilly,  ok i need one to load some addons on  it
[04:09] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, i use xchat myself
[04:09] <hendaus> me too,but i want one that has remote editor
[04:11] <slyfox> anyone got parallels working in Kubuntu ?
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, not really sure
[04:12] <hendaus> ok ty
[04:12] <hendaus> also i forgot tell you if i want to install nero
[04:13] <crystufer2000> Okay, I got my resolution up to what it oughta be, and I got my second monitor working. Now I can't set the resolution on the second monitor.
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> hendaus, thats probably not going to happen
[04:13] <hybridstorm> hello all
[04:13] <hybridstorm> does anyone happen to know of a ftp client with a built in editor?
[04:14] <crystufer2000> hybridstorm: What kind of editor?
[04:15] <hybridstorm> crystufer2000: html/php
[04:16] <crystufer2000> Hmm... Nope. Except maybe nvu.
[04:16] <crystufer2000> hybridstorm: Check NVU.
[04:17] <hybridstorm> crystufer2000: can I get that with apt or do I have to hunt for it?
[04:17] <crystufer2000> should be aptable
[04:17] <hybridstorm> alright, I will give it a shot
[04:17] <Jucato> you can use ftp:// in any KDE app, like Kate or Quanta
[04:17] <hitmanWilly> hybridstorm, its in the repos
[04:21] <the_hammer> how do i make a floppy auto mount and all that jazz the exact same way that a cd pops up when ya put it in ?
[04:21] <slyfox> Jucato: have you ever synced your phone with kubuntu ?
[04:22] <Jucato> slyfox: not yet. but that's my goal this week...
[04:22] <slyfox> Jucato: I think I am giving up now
[04:22] <slyfox> Jucato: maybe this will help you http://cihar.com/gammu/wammu/
[04:23] <the_hammer> default fstab says this /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0 and then i edited it like mentioned at bottom of url like so /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0 piss all happened
[04:23] <slyfox> Jucato: kmobiletools only connects but does not fetch or sync my phoenbook
[04:23] <Jucato> slyfox: ah.. no help from #kmobiletools?
[04:23] <slyfox> Jucato: kande just sits there useless
[04:23] <Jucato> I'll try this week.. probably
[04:24] <the_hammer> does anyone understand what im asking?
[04:24] <Leesus> can anyone explain how I would go about installing firefox
[04:25] <slyfox> Jucato: not really, someone there told me to get the latest http://xoomer.alice.it/rockman81/kmobiletools/   But I cannot compile. I am a noob in this, and what I have been told to simply type "make install" to install     does not work
[04:25] <the_hammer> simply wanting floppy to auto mount the same way a cd does when i pop it in
[04:25] <crystufer2000> cant do it
[04:25] <crystufer2000> Until they make floppy drives that autodetect the insertion of a disc.
[04:25] <hybridstorm> the_hammer: how does the drive know you just put in a floppy?
[04:25] <slyfox> Jucato: https://zyb.com/   this may be the only choice
[04:26] <the_hammer> well ok fine i can get it to read
[04:26] <the_hammer> i just wanna access the files on my floppy
[04:26] <crystufer2000> the_hammer write a simple script to mount the drive and put it on your desktop.
[04:26] <Jucato> slyfox: what unit do you have? I'll see what I'll learn along the way...
[04:26] <the_hammer> if i knew all that i wouldnt be asking for help
[04:27] <crystufer2000> the_hammer: Or else add the floppy mounter to your kde panel.
[04:27] <Jucato> !compile | slyfox
[04:27] <ubotu> slyfox: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:27] <Leesus> could someone teach me how to intall applications I download? I cant seem to follow the guides on the internet
[04:27] <the_hammer> ok how i do that?
[04:27] <Leesus> like for instance, im trying to install firefox
[04:27] <Leesus> in replacement to konqueror
[04:27] <lotusleaf> Leesus: use your Synaptic or Adept package manager
[04:27] <crystufer2000> the_hammer: right click on your panel, add applet to panel
[04:28] <Leesus> how do I do it using adept
[04:28] <slyfox> Jucato: nokia n73 Symbia version 3
[04:28] <Jucato> !adept | Leesus
[04:28] <ubotu> Leesus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:29] <Jucato> slyfox: I have a Nokia 6600... btw, I'm not really sure, but I think kmobiletools isn't the right app for syncing w/ Kontact... but I'll try to find out soon
[04:30] <the_hammer> well ok i tried to add it now cant find it
[04:31] <asaup> i have a problem with resolv.conf i try to connect to internet with dhcp
[04:31] <asaup> but its not possible
[04:31] <the_hammer> this is silly
[04:31] <the_hammer> cant even access a god dam floppy
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: did you get everything working
[04:32] <asaup> i have a problem with resolv.conf i try to connect to internet with dhcp
[04:32] <asaup> but its not possible
[04:32] <asaup> can anyone help me plz
[04:32] <bonbonthejon> asaup: what is the problem? what happens
[04:32] <asaup> i can not connect
[04:33] <asaup> to internet with dhcp
[04:33] <crystufer2000> Aaargh!
[04:33] <crystufer2000> I can't make my second monitor show the corect resolution.
[04:33] <bonbonthejon> asaup: ethernet or wireless?
[04:33] <asaup> ethernet
[04:33] <asaup> i have a dlink modem
[04:33] <asaup> i have an adsl
[04:33] <the_hammer> iadded it to applet
[04:34] <the_hammer> click on it fuck all happens
[04:34] <the_hammer> :(
[04:34] <the_hammer> fuck it ill stick it on other machine zip it and e-mail to myself
[04:34] <hybridstorm> the_hammer: are you sure the drive works and the floppy is good?
[04:35] <bonbonthejon> asaup: have you tried getting an ip
[04:35] <asaup> how can i get an ip
[04:35] <asaup> what cmd do i have to do
[04:35] <asaup> ??
[04:36] <asaup> i tried with static ip
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> asaup: something like "sudo dhclient eth0"
[04:36] <bonbonthejon> asaup: if you are using eth0
[04:36] <asaup> yes
[04:37] <crystufer2000> I can't make my xserver use the resolution I want for my second monitor.
[04:39] <hybridstorm> asaup: do you have a router between you and the modem?
[04:39] <asaup> yes
[04:39] <hybridstorm> and that is working correctly?
[04:39] <asaup> yes
[04:40] <Leesus> is there a way to go from edgy to drapper drake
[04:40] <bonbonthejon> asaup: does the router have a web interface
[04:40] <Leesus> I think edgy is too advanced for me
[04:40] <asaup> yes
[04:40] <asaup> i have access
[04:40] <asaup> to the router
[04:41] <asaup> someone before said to me to make static ip and edit resolv.conf. he gave me two ip to put after nameserver in resolve.conf and this thing resolved the problem but i do not remember the ip that he gave me
[04:41] <bonbonthejon> asaup: does it have a connection to the web, or is the problem between the computer and the router
[04:41] <asaup> no the problem is the connection to internet
[04:41] <crystufer2000> I'll be back.
[04:41] <asaup> i can connect to the router
[04:41] <hybridstorm> <IP_ADDRESS> & <IP_ADDRESS> are dns servers if you want to use them
[04:42] <bonbonthejon> asaup: so the router cant connect to the net?
[04:42] <asaup> yes
[04:42] <bonbonthejon> asaup: restart the router, see if that helps
[04:42] <asaup> can i use this
[04:42] <asaup> i restarted but no diff
[04:42] <asaup> i tried even dig
[04:42] <asaup> cmd
[04:43] <bonbonthejon> asaup: so the router has an external ip?
[04:43] <Leesus> hey asaup?
[04:43] <asaup> yes
[04:43] <Leesus> do you know how to put downloaded programs in your k menu directories after they are downloaded with adept?
[04:44] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: it should have put a link in, otherwise you can edit kmenu and add the program
[04:44] <deathnote> hi one question.. in ext2 file system , do i need to defragment my filesystem?
[04:44] <asaup> ok thanx to all of you
[04:44] <Leesus> what do you mean by putting a link in
[04:45] <deathnote> !defrag
[04:45] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[04:45] <asaup> i was missing the dns
[04:45] <asaup> :D
[04:45] <asaup> thanx
[04:45] <asaup> resolved it
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why did you need a static ip
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: you can edit kmenu and add an entry
[04:45] <Leesus> how so
[04:45] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: not yet
[04:45] <Leesus> I can run firefox from the run command prompt
[04:45] <bonbonthejon> Leesus: right click the k-menu, then do menu editor
[04:46] <deathnote> how do i know if i'm at ext2 or ext3 ? fdisk -l?
[04:46] <deathnote> oh
[04:46] <deathnote> mount -l say ext3
[04:46] <deathnote> so i do not need to defrag?
[04:46] <deathnote> !fsck
[04:46] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[04:46] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: no, it should handle it
[04:47] <stdin> Leesus: before you do that, you may just have to update (or restart) the kmenu by logging out and back in, or restarting kicker
[04:47] <bonbonthejon> stdin: how do you restart kicker
[04:47] <deathnote> why do ntfs/fat32 need to defrag ? i mean
[04:47] <deathnote> can i mount the harddisk with ntfs/fat32 and defrag using linux?
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> deathnote: yes, linux can mount ntfs/fat32
[04:48] <stdin> bonbonthejon: Alt-F2, then put in "dcop kicker kicker restart" (without quotes)
[04:48] <stdin> Leesus: ^^
[04:48] <deathnote> bonbonthejon: it seems like i can't write to ntfs....
[04:48] <Leesus> thank you stdin, that was the solution
[04:48] <deathnote> headache!@
[04:48] <stdin> sorry bonbonthejon, that wasn't to you
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> !ntfs | deathnote
[04:48] <ubotu> deathnote: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:48] <deathnote> i hate ntfs!
[04:48] <stdin> Leesus: no problem :)
[04:48] <Leesus> now, do you have an idea how to install plugins for firefox like flash? it doesnt seem to be in adept
[04:48] <deathnote> !ntfs-3g
[04:48] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:48] <asaup> even the dns
[04:48] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why did you need a static address
[04:48] <om3ga> anther quick ? how do i close a program i cant see (adept is running)
[04:49] <asaup> doesnt resolve my problem
[04:49] <stdin> !flash | Leesus
[04:49] <ubotu> Leesus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:49] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[04:49] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: run "ps aux | grep adept" to get the pid, then kill that number "kill ###"
[04:49] <asaup> i think i needed a static adress because it was not connecting with dhc
[04:49] <stdin> Leesus: that page will give you information on installing flash (and other plugins too)
[04:49] <asaup> dhcp*
[04:50] <Leesus> which one
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> asaup: the router should have a dhcp server, it makes things much easier
[04:50] <asaup> yes
[04:50] <stdin> Leesus: the 1st link ubotu gave you (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats)
[04:50] <asaup> it has a dhcp server
[04:50] <bonbonthejon> asaup: why not use that then?
[04:51] <asaup> but i dont know the way to configure it in konsole
[04:51] <bonbonthejon> asaup: configure what? with dhcp there isnt anythihng to configure
[04:51] <asaup> i know
[04:51] <asaup> but i mean that i can not
[04:51] <asaup> connect with dhcp
[04:52] <asaup> i can not connect to internet
[04:52] <bonbonthejon> asaup: can you ping the router?
[04:52] <asaup> i must control it now
[04:53] <asaup> i want to ask how can i find my dns
[04:53] <om3ga> om3ga     4475  0.7  1.9  31012 14636 ?        S    22:39   0:05 adept_notifier
[04:53] <om3ga> om3ga     4670  0.0  0.1   2796   748 pts/0    R+   22:52   0:00 grep adept
[04:53] <om3ga> this is what i got
[04:53] <Leesus> I have flash on my desktop... where do I go from here
[04:54] <asaup> yes i can ping my router
[04:54] <asaup> but i dont know how to find my dns
[04:54] <om3ga> i dont know what to do from here
[04:54] <asaup> so i can put them near to servername in resolv.conf
[04:54] <bonbonthejon> om3ga: "kill 4475"
[04:55] <om3ga> ok ty
[04:55] <asaup> yes i can ping my router
[04:56] <asaup> but i dont know how to find my dns
[04:56] <asaup> so i can put them near to servername in resolv.conf
[04:56] <asaup> :(
[04:56] <bonbonthejon> asaup: looks like you should look in resolv.conf, but you got rid of it
[04:56] <asaup> yes i can look
[04:56] <asaup> but dont know
[04:56] <asaup> what to
[04:57] <asaup> put in
[04:57] <bonbonthejon> asaup: can you try dhcp again
[04:57] <om3ga> still says that adept is in use
[04:57] <asaup> sure
[04:57] <asaup> im tryin
[04:57] <asaup> but not working
[04:57] <hybridstorm> asup put "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" on one line and "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" on the next
[04:58] <hybridstorm> all you should need
[04:58] <asaup> i tried
[04:58] <asaup> them
[04:58] <asaup> dont working
[04:58] <bonbonthejon> asaup: you might need to restart the computer
[04:58] <hybridstorm> those are nameservers at my data center, if those do not work I am not sure your connection is working
[04:58] <asaup> the dns that i put before was ending
[04:58] <asaup> with .15 and .25
[04:59] <hybridstorm> well there are a lot of nameservers out there
[04:59] <asaup> if i restart all the resolve.conf
[04:59] <asaup> goes back
[04:59] <hybridstorm> and yes you should atleast restart networking if not the whole system after you edit it to take effect
[04:59] <asaup> ok
[04:59] <hybridstorm> can you ping an ip address but not a domain name?
[05:01] <asaup> i restarted
[05:01] <asaup> but no diff
[05:01] <hybridstorm> can you ping a ip address?
[05:01] <hybridstorm> an ip*
[05:01] <lotus> hello
[05:01] <asaup> only my router
[05:02] <hybridstorm> then I don't think your nameservers are the issue, I would assume it is an issue with the connection at the router level
[05:02] <asaup> no the problem
[05:02] <asaup> are my nameservers
[05:02] <asaup> because
[05:02] <asaup> one hour ago
[05:02] <lotus> I dont know very much about linux, but I try to install my video card
[05:02] <asaup> i was working
[05:03] <asaup> everything was ok
[05:03] <asaup> but when i restarted resolv.conf was
[05:03] <asaup> reseted
[05:03] <lotus> I already foudn out Ihave a S3 Savage 4 Card, but I just dont know what to do next
[05:03] <[R] eaper> Hi XD
[05:03] <hybridstorm> asaup, do a pastebin of your full resolv.conf file
[05:04] <asaup> it has
[05:04] <hybridstorm> should not be much at all
[05:04] <asaup> only
[05:04] <asaup> 2 lines of nameserver
[05:04] <asaup> that you gave to me
[05:04] <hybridstorm> nothing before or after it correct?
[05:04] <asaup> before it was one line with the router ip
[05:04] <[R] eaper> Help, screen size (800x600) doesn't work on fullscreen
[05:05] <hybridstorm> just the ip? nothing else?
[05:05] <asaup> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <asaup> nothing
[05:05] <asaup> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:05] <hybridstorm> remove that line and try restarting again
[05:05] <asaup> it was like this
[05:05] <hybridstorm> ahh that is bad
[05:05] <asaup> why ???
[05:05] <hybridstorm> at least I don't think that should be like that...not that I have ever seen
[05:05] <hybridstorm> <IP_ADDRESS> is your gateway
[05:06] <hybridstorm> it is not a nameserver
[05:06] <asaup> thats what was written before
[05:06] <asaup> i deleted it and put the 2 dns you gave me
[05:06] <hybridstorm> so it is gone?
[05:07] <asaup> yes
[05:07] <asaup> i deleted it but
[05:07] <asaup> i can not connect anyway
[05:07] <Leesus> dude, is there pretty much no hope on getting flash installed on my amd64? im so frustrated
[05:08] <stdin> Leesus: nope, your only hope in gnash
[05:08] <hybridstorm> asaup, try adding "search localhost.localdomain" before the name server lines
[05:08] <lotus> does anyone know how to install a S3 Savage video card ?
[05:08] <asaup> i have to write it like this
[05:08] <asaup> ??
[05:08] <asaup> search localhost.localdomain
[05:09] <asaup> ??
[05:09] <Leesus> how can I install gnash?
[05:09] <hybridstorm> yes
[05:09] <asaup> ok
[05:09] <asaup> wait a min
[05:09] <stdin> !gnash
[05:09] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[05:10] <SlimG> How do I find out what "hwX:X" id my soundcard has ? (example: hw0:0), what does the first and second number stand for?
[05:10] <stdin> Leesus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash#head-38245bd46a3334b4cc11601e161ddaa63439d2db
[05:10] <slyfox> what is a good virtual machine program for Kubuntu ?
[05:11] <stdin> VirtualBox is quite good
[05:12] <slyfox> stdin: when I tried virtualbox - I had an error with the usb port- i had some permission denied when I tried to mount somehting via usb in virtualbox...    ?
[05:13] <om3ga> how do i see all processes
[05:14] <stdin> slyfox: I've never had to mount a usb device in VBox, so I don't know about that, but there is a channel #vobx if you want to ask, or you can go with VMware or Qemu
[05:14] <om3ga> that are running
[05:14] <om3ga> ??
[05:14] <slyfox> om3ga: ksysguard
[05:14] <Leesus> I dont understand how to install gnash as a plugin in firefox
[05:14] <Leesus> could someone please help
[05:14] <stdin> om3ga: Ctrl-Esc (for ksysguard GUI) or "ps aux" (in term)
[05:15] <lotus> does anyone know how to install a S3 Savage video card ?
[05:15] <LaserJock> quick question, is there a theme for KDE that's similar to the Ubuntu theme?
[05:15] <om3ga> ok ty
[05:15] <asaup> i resolved the problem
[05:15] <hybridstorm> asaup, good!
[05:15] <asaup> i made static ip in eth0
[05:16] <asaup> and found my dns in my router
[05:16] <asaup> config
[05:16] <asaup> page
[05:16] <asaup> :P
[05:16] <asaup> thanx man
[05:16] <hybridstorm> well that works, good to hear you are up and running
[05:16] <stdin> Leesus: I've never done it before, so I can't really help much, but there is a more detailed page here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:16] <hybridstorm> no problem
[05:16] <ubuntu__> hi
[05:17] <Jucato> LaserJock: I think http://www.kde-look.org would have the things you're looking for
[05:17] <om3ga> what does it mean if there is a ghost beside the process
[05:17] <Jucato> LaserJock: although I'm not sure what widget style would match Ubuntu's.
[05:18] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: Ii`s not working, can ypu help me to do all this in console
[05:18] <Leesus> omg
[05:19] <Leesus> I have no idea how to do all that just to get flash working
[05:19] <Leesus> the most important plug in
[05:19] <Leesus> fuck
[05:19] <Leesus> im so screwed
[05:19] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: how far are you
[05:19] <SolidSource> Leesus: flash is easy
[05:19] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i think it will be more easyer to begin at the begining: (
[05:19] <Leesus> on an amd64 built system solidsource?
[05:20] <SolidSource> Leesus: yeah
[05:20] <SolidSource> Leesus: thats what I use
[05:20] <Leesus> how do i do it man
[05:20] <Leesus> im so lost
[05:20] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what site are you looking at?
[05:21] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html
[05:21] <Leesus> could you help me out solidsource?
[05:22] <SolidSource> Leesus: you have to use the 32 bit firefox/swiftfox
[05:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: but i think it will be more confortable to do all this in console
[05:22] <SolidSource> Leesus: then you can just follow http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Java_v5.0.11_for_Firefox32
[05:22] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: you mean not use webmin
[05:22] <SolidSource> but use java6 not java5 as in that tutorial
[05:22] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:23] <Leesus> how do I know which firefox I have installed? I downloaded it from adept
[05:23] <om3ga> ok i cant use adept it says somthing else is using it
[05:23] <SolidSource> Leesus: thats 64bit firefox
[05:23] <Leesus> so how do I uninstall, then install the 32bit version?
[05:23] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: we can use webmin, if you think is easyer
[05:24] <SolidSource> Leesus: uninstall in adept using purge
[05:24] <Dr_willis> I like webmin.. but really dont need it much. :)
[05:24] <SolidSource> Leesus: then (what I use) download swiftfox for your arch at getsiftfox.com
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !info swiftfox
[05:24] <ubotu> Package swiftfox does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:25] <Dr_willis> hmm.. i though that was in seveas
[05:25] <SolidSource> nope
[05:25] <Leesus> arch?
[05:25] <SolidSource> ........
[05:25] <SolidSource> architecture
[05:25] <SolidSource> your processor
[05:25] <Leesus> lol
[05:25] <Leesus> wow
[05:25] <Leesus> im a dumbass
[05:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:25] <Leesus> yeah, sorry im obviously tired
[05:25] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:26] <SolidSource> Leesus: download the deb file that they make
[05:28] <Leesus> deb as in short for debian?
[05:28] <SolidSource> yes and *.DEB file extension
[05:29] <Darkkish> i need a laptop batterymanager that will show up in the xfce system tray
[05:30] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: ask in #xubuntu
[05:30] <Kite_DH> can somebody help me installing --> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.5.php
[05:30] <Darkkish> i did
[05:30] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:30] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did you add the repo in sources.list
[05:30] <Leesus> so do I need to download the 32 bit version?
[05:30] <Darkkish> bonbonthejon: i did
[05:30] <Leesus> because of the flash thing?
[05:30] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: no.. :(
[05:30] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: how to do that
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: open konsole, then do "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: well, this really isnt the place for xfce
[05:31] <Leesus> solidsource, could you pm me?
[05:31] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7745/
[05:31] <bonbonthejon> Darkkish: isnt there a battery monityr already
[05:31] <SolidSource> Leesus: umm k
[05:32] <Leesus> damnit
[05:32] <Leesus> well, which version of swiftfox do I need?
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: then this "deb http://..... edgy main" at the bottom?
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: yeah, then save
[05:33] <SolidSource> Leesus: http://getswiftfox.com/debian.htm and select your processor
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: do i have to add the , too ?
[05:33] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main           or     deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-145 edgy main,
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:33] <Kite_DH> k
[05:33] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: no
[05:34] <Kite_DH> thx
[05:34] <Kite_DH> ok now it works
[05:34] <Kite_DH> thx
[05:34] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: do you really have eth0, eth1, eth2, ath0, wlan0, and dsl-provider?
[05:34] <Leesus> solidsource: But there are two builds (athlon 64 & Athlon 64(32 bit os)
[05:35] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: but it still says 1.4.4 .... =(
[05:35] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[05:35] <ForgeAus> jucato you there?
[05:35] <ForgeAus> startx worked fine
[05:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i have eth0 and et1
[05:35] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i have eth0 and eth1
[05:35] <SolidSource> Leesus: ok and?
[05:35] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: what about the rest
[05:36] <Leesus> Solidsource: Which one do I need to get flash working
[05:36] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did it upgrade
[05:36] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i didn`t have it, i have an internet conection with eth0 and lan conection with eth1
[05:37] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, in interfaces delete the other entries
[05:37] <Leesus> solidsource^^
[05:37] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: how
[05:37] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:37] <SolidSource> Leesus: well the Athlon 64 is for 64 bit OS and the Athlon 64 (32bit OS) is for 32bit OS
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: edit interfaces and delete the sections you are not using
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did you restart amarok
[05:38] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: yes
[05:38] <Leesus> Solidsource: is kubuntu a 64 bit os?
[05:38] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:38] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: maybe relog?
[05:38] <SolidSource> Leesus: depends if you got that version
[05:38] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: it should have worked, but try it
[05:38] <JackPhil> when I turn on the xgl+beryl, the sound of apps event is disappear
[05:39] <Leesus> Solidsource: how can I tell?
[05:39] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: i`m finished
[05:39] <JackPhil> such as bell of konsole, app launch sound
[05:39] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, hiold on
[05:39] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:39] <SolidSource> Leesus: in konsole type "uname -r"
[05:40] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: still not working :(
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: ok, also delete the lines with pre-up
[05:40] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: where does it say 1.4.4
[05:41] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: help > about amarok
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: im just walking you thru http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway if you want to look at it
[05:41] <Leesus> 2.6.17-10-generic
[05:41] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok, i did that
[05:41] <Leesus> SolidSource^^
[05:41] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: did it upgrade everything, or did it leave anything behind
[05:41] <SolidSource> Leesus: ok...that would be 64bit
[05:41] <Kite_DH> bonbonthejon: im upgrading with adept now, thx anyway =)
[05:42] <bonbonthejon> Kite_DH: glad to help
[05:44] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: you what that i do what there says?
[05:45] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: yeah, there first page is okay
[05:45] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ok
[05:46] <Leesus> Solidsource: ok so I have the deb file on my desktop now and its not letting me install it manually in terminal
[05:46] <Leesus> using sudo dpkg commands
[05:47] <Dr_willis> and any error messages are?
[05:47] <SolidSource> Leesus: you need the ia32 packages installed
[05:47] <Leesus> what are those?
[05:48] <SolidSource> Leesus: they allow you to use 32bit applicatins
[05:48] <SolidSource> applications*
[05:48] <Leesus> where could I get those
[05:49] <SolidSource> adept is the easiest...only need 5 of em
[05:49] <Leesus> what are the names
[05:49] <Leesus> ia32-libs?
[05:50] <SolidSource> only the ones that start ia32-libs
[05:50] <Dr_willis> !unp
[05:50] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[05:51] <Leesus> SolidSource: there is only one listed?
[05:51] <Leesus> not 5
[05:51] <sscssc> il a des fr?
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> !fr
[05:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:51] <SolidSource> there should be 6 actually....
[05:52] <SolidSource> and if its not finding, then you need new sources.list
[05:52] <Leesus> alright
[05:52] <Leesus> I got it
[05:52] <Leesus> now how do I manually install the browser?
[05:52] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[05:53] <SolidSource> "sudo dpkg -i PACKAGENAME.deb"
[05:53] <sscssc> ok
[05:54] <stdin> if it's a i386 package, you may need the "--force-architecture" flag
[05:54] <Leesus> it says no such file or directory?
[05:54] <SolidSource> stdin: its not i386...
[05:54] <stdin> Leesus: replace "PACKAGENAME.deb" with the actual package name
[05:54] <Leesus> I did
[05:54] <Leesus> swiftfox_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_athlon64.deb
[05:54] <Leesus> its located on my desktop
[05:54] <Leesus> I can physically see the phile
[05:54] <stdin> SolidSource: ahh, ok :P
[05:54] <SolidSource> Leesus: open new konsole "cd ~/Desktop"
[05:55] <SolidSource> then use that command
[05:55] <Leesus> still no go?
[05:55] <Leesus> weird
[05:56] <SolidSource> use pastebin and copy what konsole says to it
[05:56] <SolidSource> !paste
[05:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:56] <stdin> Leesus: try "sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/swiftfox_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_athlon64.deb" (copy & paste it)
[05:56] <SolidSource> that might work
[05:57] <Leesus> ok that worked
[05:57] <stdin> wooh :P
[05:57] <ubuntu> hellow
[05:57] <ubuntu> hellow :)
[05:57] <SolidSource> boo you made stdin happy
[05:57] <Leesus> but I got an error?
[05:57] <Leesus> dependency problems
[05:57] <Leesus> prevent configuration
[05:57] <stdin> Leesus: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:58] <ubuntu> I want to reinstall grub ...however when I type "sudo grub-install /dev/hda" it gives me not found or not a block device error
[05:58] <SolidSource> did you install all the ia32-libs-*?
[05:58] <Leesus> stdin: im guessing that uninstalled it? where to go from here?
[05:59] <stdin> Leesus: post the output to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[05:59] <stdin> Leesus: and post the url back here
[06:00] <Leesus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7746/
[06:01] <Leesus> god this is so confusing.. I hope I can get everything working right soon, I dont wanna go back to xp
[06:01] <SolidSource> Leesus: it failed because you didn't have all the ia32-libs-* installed
[06:01] <Leesus> I downloaded all the ones available in adept?
[06:02] <SolidSource> Leesus: all 6?
[06:02] <Leesus> when I enter ia32-libs in the search field it only brings up on entry
[06:03] <Leesus> when I downloaded it, it had 5 progress bars which I think represented 5 files
[06:03] <Leesus> not 6
[06:03] <stdin> what's the package it shows?
[06:03] <SolidSource> it should install 11 packages or so
[06:03] <SolidSource> for dependcies
[06:04] <Leesus> package: ia32-libs, installed size 41m, descriP;
[06:04] <Leesus> ia32 shared libraries for use... etc.
[06:04] <SolidSource> thats only 1 of 6
[06:05] <SolidSource> if only 1 is showing up...need to update sources.list
[06:05] <Leesus> how do I do that
[06:05] <SolidSource> http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/
[06:06] <SolidSource> then you need to copy the info provided over the info in your current sources.list
[06:06] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: ilook here http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[06:06] <tarelerulz__> gnutella don't work for me
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: after i did /etc/init.d/networking restart
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon:  what i must do?
[06:07] <SolidSource> Leesus: "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" will allow you access to the current list
[06:07] <tarelerulz__> I don't see any file to download
[06:07] <bonbonthejon> gugu^: follow the site, im heading to bed, good luck
[06:07] <gugu^> bonbonthejon: thx, good night
[06:08] <jordo23> What's the best plugin to use with Konq to view streamed video?
[06:08] <SolidSource> jordo23: Mplayer is the norm
[06:09] <jordo23> SolidSource: I am trying to view streams using Mplayer's plugin....but it doesn't seem to work....
[06:09] <eric> when i boot i get a "cannot enable RNG, aborting" error
[06:10] <tarelerulz__> is there mplayer plugin for konqueror?
[06:10] <eric> and it doesn't show the normal boot screen
[06:10] <SolidSource> jordo23: you have the mplayer plugin installed?
[06:10] <eric> just the blinking cursor
[06:10] <SolidSource> jordo23: konqueror uses same plugins as firefox
[06:10] <jordo23> SolidSource: I believe so....what's the package name?
[06:10] <hybridstorm> where is the splashy folder?
[06:11] <Dr_willis> 'locate splashy' ?
[06:11] <SolidSource> jordo23: mozilla-mplayer and kmplayer-konq-plugins are the 2
[06:12] <hybridstorm> Dr_willis, no results
[06:12] <Dr_willis> proberly aint updated your locate database recently
[06:12] <Dr_willis> !info splashy
[06:12] <ubotu> Package splashy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[06:13] <hybridstorm> ahh well there you go
[06:13] <hybridstorm> how do I edit my boot screen then?
[06:13] <Jucato> !usplash
[06:13] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:13] <Dr_willis> I always edit it by using the 'nosplash' option to the kernel...
[06:13] <Dr_willis> that edits it REAL NICE....
[06:14] <alex__> rc://irc.abjects.net/overflow
[06:14] <hybridstorm> ::reads docs like a good user::
[06:14] <cpk1> lol Dr_willis
[06:14] <jordo23> SolidSource: Do I have to install them through Konq?
[06:15] <SolidSource> jordo23: no, adept, but you would have to restart konq
[06:16] <hybridstorm> I have to know c to make a bootscreen?
[06:16] <jordo23> SolidSource: I hear the video but I don't see it....mlb.com player highlights
[06:16] <Dr_willis> not that i am aware of hybrid
[06:16] <Dr_willis> oops hybridstorm
[06:16] <jordo23> SolidSource: Says it's playing with Mplayer
[06:18] <SolidSource> jordo23: hmmm, mplayer plugin keeps crashing in konq...works in firefox though
[06:18] <hybridstorm> "I assume that the reader has basic c programming knowledge..."
[06:19] <Dr_willis> hybridstorm,  just give up then... go back! its too hard!
[06:19] <Dr_willis> Dont go on!.....
[06:19] <Dr_willis> or forge ahead.. and start learning...
[06:20] <hybridstorm> well as much as I want to learn c I really don't want to learn it just to make a bootsplash
[06:20] <Jucato> hybridstorm: for the bootsplash? yes. or try to install something like slashy or fbsplash... (not easy either)
[06:20] <hybridstorm> seems a bit over complex to me
[06:21] <hybridstorm> I guess i can live with what I have since I only boot about once a month, if that, and it only takes 20 seconds or so
[06:21] <cpk1> rofl
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I thought the only c was converting the image to some struct() or somthing...
[06:21] <cpk1> because learning is just too damn hard...
[06:21] <cpk1> I want splash with the messages
[06:21] <cpk1> it used to do that...
[06:22] <cpk1> it had the little picture with the loading bar and showed all the blahblah ..... ok!
[06:22] <hybridstorm> get fedora
[06:22] <hybridstorm> lol
[06:22] <cpk1> but now it doesnt
[06:22] <Jucato> cpk1: remove "silent" in the menu.lst entry for the kernel you booting into
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> cpk1: i think if you pull the 'quiet' out of menu.lst it'll do it
[06:22] <Jucato> er.. "quiet" I meean
[06:22] <cpk1> oh that easy?
[06:22] <Jucato> mean*
[06:22] <tarelerulz__> When I download small movie Konqueror open Kaffiene player ? Is that the kmplayer plugin working
[06:23] <Jucato> no. that's kaffeine working
[06:23] <SolidSource> lol
[06:24] <cpk1> # defoptions=quiet splash vga=795 that line I have to leave defoptions= in right so i need to make it look like # defoptions=splash vga=795 the explaination is kind of ambiguous
[06:24] <Jucato> my menu.lst doesn't look that way though...
[06:25] <Jucato> kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic root=/dev/hdb2 ro quiet splash <---- remove the "quiet"
[06:25] <cpk1> I am trying to use the automagicness so I dont always have to change it =)
[06:25] <Jucato> ok..
[06:25] <Jucato> you're call
[06:26] <cpk1> I'll change it now and when I reboot sometime in the future and something is broken I will probably wonder what the hell is going on =P.  Too lazy to test by rebooting now hehe
[06:28] <cpk1> looks like what I was saying worked, after reading it after running update-grub
[06:28] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash
[06:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <Jucato> :P
[06:29] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash  noquiet verbose
[06:29] <Dr_willis> # defoptions=nosplash  noquiet verbose takeovertheworld
[06:29] <Dr_willis> Nyquill is kicking in.... night all.
[06:29] <Jucato> #defoptions = nodrwilllis
[06:29] <cpk1> hehe
[06:30] <Dr_willis> #defoptions = the sniffling, sneezying, coughing, weezing, pukeing, gaghing, projectile vomting, so you can take over the world medecine.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> night.
[06:31] <Darkkish> how would i add http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/ to my repository?
[06:31] <Jucato> Darkkish: you should really be asking in #xubuntu about this
[06:33] <Darkkish> Jucato i have
[06:33] <SolidSource> still don't see why people would use xfce over kde...or even gnome
[06:33] <Darkkish> nobody in xubuntu is that helpful lol'
[06:33] <Jucato> Darkkish: asking the same thing in here won't get you anywhere...
[06:33] <Darkkish> SolidSource because kde uses alot of ram, i personally like it, but i don't have alot of ram on my laptop
[06:33] <posingaspopular> Darkkish: im in xubuntu, i just dont know the answer
[06:33] <Jucato> Darkkish: how much ram?
[06:33] <Jucato> SolidSource: one word: freedom
[06:33] <Darkkish> ... 512
[06:34] <Darkkish> i like xfce's panels :-/ even though there are alot of things about kde that i like more, i really like the xfce panels
[06:34] <Jucato> Darkkish: that's good enough really
[06:34] <Jucato> Darkkish: as for the "uses a lot of ram"
[06:34] <SolidSource> Jucato: do mean the whole because you can?
[06:34] <Jucato> !ram | Darkkish
[06:34] <ubotu> Darkkish: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[06:34] <Darkkish> lol gnome uses more
[06:35] <Jucato> SolidSource: because they can if they want to
[06:37] <eric> whats so good about xfce?
[06:40] <nalioth> eric: it's very light on system resources
[06:41] <Jucato> jordo23: do you have w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs installed right?
[06:41] <Darkkish> eric it has a nice customizable menu system too... depending on what you want
[06:41] <jordo23> will check
[06:41] <jordo23> Jucato: Which repos?
[06:42] <SolidSource> jordo23: w32codecs isn't in repo
[06:42] <Jucato> Darkkish: true. that's one of the things I like about Xfce
[06:42] <eric> hmm
[06:42] <eric> maybe i'll test it out
[06:42] <jordo23> I show libxine codecs installed.....
[06:42] <Jucato> jordo23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs
[06:42] <Darkkish> Jucato thats the main reason i switched to it, i plan to use my laptop for writing and there are alot of nice features related to it and whatnot
[06:43] <SolidSource> jordo23: you need w32codecs too unless in feisty
[06:43] <Darkkish> what is the command that lets you download files via the console?
[06:43] <Jucato> wget ?
[06:43] <Darkkish> yes lol thanks
[06:43] <Jucato> Darkkish: there is a sort of equivalent to Xfce's menu, but not exactly like a menu
[06:43] <Jucato> Darkkish: Quick Launcher kicker applet
[06:43] <Darkkish> Jucato yes i think i tried it
[06:43] <Darkkish> didn't do exactly what i was hoping for
[06:44] <jordo23> Oh....I get it....this is a Ubuntu Feisty media issue....have read about this right?
[06:44] <Darkkish> so i just do wget http://url.com/file.ext
[06:44] <Jucato> Darkkish: there's also another way to do it. Quick File browser, point it to a folder with links to programs
[06:44] <Jucato> Darkkish: technically, yes
[06:46] <coreymon77> Darkkish: you could also use apt
[06:46] <Darkkish> crap
[06:46] <Darkkish> so now i have this tar.gz
[06:47] <Darkkish> and i have no idea where to put it :p
[07:06] <Tido> meh
[07:07] <Tido> *linux*/kubuntu/ubuntu
[07:07] <Tido> it's just not really, perfect
[07:07] <Tido> but then again nor is windows
[07:07] <stdin> nothing is
[07:07] <Tido> sometimes things get buggy in kubuntu, and I get frustrated, and I go into windows
[07:07] <Tido> but it's buggy there too lol
[07:07] <Tido> just different bugs
[07:09] <Tido> firefox is more stable on windows
[07:09] <Tido> the laptop's battery lasts longer on linux
[07:09] <Tido> etc etc
[07:10] <cpk1> use konquerer?
[07:10] <Tido> no
[07:10] <Tido> love it as a file browser
[07:11] <Tido> not crazy about it for web
[07:11] <cpk1> O.o how is it different when you are using the web?
[07:12] <Tido> I don't like how it renders certain things
[07:12] <tarelerulz_> I am using gtk-gnutella and I can't see any files to download . Is anyone else had the probem?
[07:12] <Jucato> ironically, it's the most standards compliant, even outranking opera...
[07:12] <Tido> like fieldset, ugh
[07:12] <fignew> Tido: strange, I never realized it rendered anything differently from any other browser (sans IE)
[07:12] <Tido> says who, Jucato?
[07:13] <fignew> Tido: the standards tests ;)
[07:13] <Tido> link?
[07:13] <Jucato> Tido: says testing sites
[07:13] <Jucato> unlike MS, KDE doesn't have money to pay people to make up test results :D
[07:13] <Tido> I'm not trying to put you on the spot, I'm just really curious about these things
[07:14] <gugu^> If i from an Windows mashine conect to an linux mashine is asking me a password, how to remove pass
[07:14] <fignew> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17160 <-- there's one
[07:14] <Jucato> for css3 http://www.css3.info/blog/khtml-356-is-the-most-css3-compliant-of-all/
[07:14] <Tido> that's cool
[07:14] <Tido> I wish I could start using css3 for work
[07:15] <fignew> http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10753
[07:15] <fignew> second browser to pass ACID2 test :)
[07:15] <Jucato> looks like fignew has more links than me... although osnews.. :P
[07:15] <gugu^> If i from an Windows mashine conect to an linux mashine is asking me a password, how to remove pass!this all happens on my LAN
[07:16] <fignew> only shortfall of Konqueror (in my opinion) is slow javascript
[07:16] <Tido> gugu^: you're on a windows machine and you're trying to access a samba share on a linux machine?
[07:16] <Tido> yeah, javascript is what kills me in opera
[07:16] <gugu^> Tido: yes
[07:16] <Tido> otherwise I'd love that browser
[07:16] <Jucato> being fixed every new release...
[07:17] <fignew> Opera is very nice, very quick (esp. back button)
[07:17] <Jucato> fignew: you don't consider the absence of RTF/WYSIWYG ability in Konqeuror a shortfall? :D
[07:17] <Tido> gugu^: you need to read up on how to make anoynomous (sp) access to samba shares, best way is to read a wiki HOWTO on samba @ ubuntu wiki
[07:17] <Jucato> s/shortfall/shortcoming
[07:17] <fignew> Jucato: what do you mean?
[07:17] <gugu^> Tido: thx
[07:17] <gugu^> ok
[07:18] <fignew> in text fields?
[07:18] <Jucato> fignew: no. posting in stuff like Blogger and Wordpress.
[07:18] <Jucato> the WYSIWYG editors
[07:18] <fignew> never tried that :/
[07:19] <Jucato> some CMS/Blogs provide editors that have WYSIWYG capabilities. Konqueror can't do those
[07:19] <Jucato> notably all blogging apps
[07:21] <Tido> I wasn't saying konqueror is bad, I really like it overall, I'm just used to firefox and love all the extensions for it
[07:21] <Tido> but I hate what a memory hog it is
[07:22] <Jucato> another irony is that firefox is mostly loved for something that isn't directly related to browsing at all... :)
[07:22] <Jucato> (extensions)
[07:22] <Tido> hey, as a web developer, those web dev extensions are fantastic! :D
[07:23] <fignew> hmm, Jucato, I'm in wordpress
[07:23] <Jucato> I never said they weren't... I just said they're not directly related to web browsing :)
[07:23] <Jucato> fignew: if you try to write a post
[07:23] <fignew> don't see WYSIWYG (in firefox)
[07:24] <Jucato> ??
[07:24] <fignew> http://demo.opensourcecms.com/wordpress/wp-admin/
[07:24] <fignew> u:admin,p:demo
[07:24] <Tido> that, and FF is the browser I have the best change of making someone switch to from IE.  It's a big name in open source and I think that's a good thing
[07:24] <Jucato> fignew: if you type something, then select the text, then click on bold, the text turns bold
[07:24] <Tido> and for windows users, it's a great choice
[07:25] <Jucato> fignew: whoa.. that's.. a weird WP...
[07:25] <Tido> it's really really hard to convince people to accept open source completely and go to something like a  linux operating system, but it's much more practical to slowly get them there with a great alternative to IE
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: this is a better discussion for #kubnuntu-offtopic but yes I agree
[07:26] <Tido> ah yeah, sorry for the casual chatting
[07:26] <Admiral_Chicago> we've all doen it.
[07:27] <fignew> nah, this is ontopic
[07:27] <tarelerulz2> Getting people to try linux is hard as soon as something don't work right . Well, that is not better then windows they say
[07:27] <Admiral_Chicago> topic is "#kubuntu-offtopic for anything non-support
[07:28] <Jucato> #kubuntu is a channel for Kubuntu-related support questions. While offtopic discussions happen once in a while, it's highly advised to take them to #kubuntu-offtopic . Let's keep this channel clean, and try to liven up that other channel :D Hooray for offtopics and #kubuntu-offtopic !!!
[07:28] <Tido> hooray
[07:28] <khaije1> okay so my kopete grip... how do i block people on the yahoo protocol ?!?
[07:28] <Jucato> (mea culpla, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa)
[07:28] <reldruh> if questions are on-topic, is there a way to tag an image in digikam with multiple tags at the same time?
[07:29] <tarelerulz2> Do any of you use gtk-gnutella?
[07:29] <khaije1> i'm getting spammed invites every few minutes :-(
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> khaije1: does the documentation say anything
[07:29] <Admiral_Chicago> !documentation
[07:29] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:29] <fignew> tarelerulz2: I used to, back when I used gnome
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> The reason I ask is I can't seem to get to work
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> I try looking up stuff and get nothing
[07:30] <khaije1> Admiral_Chicago: nope, i used to use gaim exclusively but i'm trying to give kopete a chance, it's great except this featuer seems totally absent
[07:30] <Jucato> reldruh: right-click -> Edit comments and Tags?
[07:30] <Admiral_Chicago> khaije1: i don't know kopete though
[07:30] <tarelerulz2> I forward the ports and that did nto help
[07:30] <reldruh> Jucato: I can add them one at a time that way, but is there a way to add multiple tags without having to right-click again for each tag?
[07:31] <khaije1> i guess i should ask on #kopete :-) that would make sense
[07:31] <Jucato> reldruh: right-click -> Edit comments and Tags
[07:31] <fignew> tarelerulz2: gnutella isn't that good
[07:31] <Jucato> reldruh: it popups up a dialog box
[07:31] <tarelerulz2> Well, what is good one Then?
[07:32] <fignew> bittorrent
[07:32] <fignew> !p2p
[07:32] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> rtorrent. ktorrent
[07:32] <fignew> yes, in kubuntu, ktorrent
[07:32] <tarelerulz2> I would ,but I just want song or two
[07:32] <fignew> I used to use rtorrent, now that's good stuff!
[07:32] <oliver> hola
[07:32] <fignew> can't help you there
[07:33] <oliver> alguien de uruguay?
[07:33] <Jucato> !es
[07:33] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:33] <Jucato> !pt
[07:33] <ubotu> pt is Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I may just get stuff with bit torrent
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> first one
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I would love to get something for song or two
[07:34] <tarelerulz2> I mean other then song or two I don't download much besides iso and stuff
[07:35] <fignew> if a bittorrent file contails multiple files, you can choose only to download certain files from it
[07:35] <fignew> i'm out
[07:36] <reldruh> in kmail, is there a way to make it like gmail, where I can archive messages and have them leave my inbox but still stay searchable?
[07:36] <meteor-1500> hi all
[07:37] <Tido> is there a way I can get flash9 and everything else audio related to share nicely?
[07:37] <meteor-1500> anyone know of any blender 2.43 packages for 6.10?
[07:37] <Tido> because if flash has sound, nothing else can be played
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: what version do you have?
[07:38] <Tido> of flash?
[07:38] <reldruh> meteor-1500: blender 2.4.3 is out?
[07:39] <meteor-1500> indeed
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, flash version
[07:39] <graficus> wow, lots of ppl here
[07:39] <Tido> Admiral_Chicago: 9 I believe, but the exact version I'm not sure.  What's a good way of finding that out?
[07:39] <Jucato> meteor-1500: you can simply run the blender executable that Blender.org provides. no need to compile, no need to install
[07:40] <meteor-1500> ah ok
[07:40] <meteor-1500> doesn't need libraries or anything?
[07:40] <Jucato> meteor-1500: nope. the tarball they provide seems complete
[07:40] <graficus> can I ask a question?
[07:40] <Jucato> ask away
[07:40] <graficus> ty :)
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> you may ask another one :)
[07:41] <stdin> Tido: open firefox or konqu and put this as the address: about:plugins
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask
[07:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:41] <graficus> i have an external drive
[07:41] <Jucato> Tido: about:plugins ? or apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[07:41] <graficus> it seems to run some sort of windows by itself
[07:41] <graficus> how do i make it a writable share?
[07:42] <graficus> thru smb:// it doesn't work
[07:42] <meteor-1500> cool
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: yup how Jucato explained, its the first one
[07:42] <meteor-1500> ta
[07:42] <graficus> and i can't play any files thru smb either (like mp3 etc)
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: you've got it mounted as noexec i think
[07:42] <tarelerulz2> mplayer works for mp3
[07:42] <tarelerulz2> on on smb
[07:43] <Tido> Shockwave Flash 9.0 d78
[07:43] <graficus> its a network drive, so linux treats it as another windows computer, not a drive
[07:43] <graficus> i just want to be able to double click things in there
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: you have a problem with your sound I think. it works fine here on autodetect sound driver
[07:44] <Tido> might just be something a simple reboot could fix, the probably only started recently
[07:45] <graficus> no. i installed MEPIS and Mandriva, they all play fine. but i want ubuntu to work, cuz i like it better
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> Tido: try that. also, alsamixer might be the problem
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> run that in a terminal
[07:46] <Tido> that has to be the coolest terminal program I've ever seen lol
[07:46] <graficus> alsamixer - hehe, cool. i can learn just by eavesdropping ;)
[07:47] <Tido> PCM
[07:47] <Tido> what is that?
[07:47] <Tido> whatever it is, it's what really controls sound output it seems
[07:47] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure...
[07:48] <graficus> no ideas regarding smb?
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: its mounted on fstab?
[07:48] <Tido> thanks Admiral_Chicago
[07:49] <graficus> you mean its possible to mount another computer as a drive in fstab?
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> and yes, it controls sound output for the ALSA device
[07:49] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[07:49] <tarelerulz2> I can't seem to get any thing like gnutella on here
[07:50] <stdin> graficus: you don't mount the computer, you mount the remote share
[07:50] <graficus> nothing happens when fstab is entered into console. i'm sorry if it sounds stupid, am a linix noob
[07:50] <Admiral_Chicago> graficus: /etc/fstab ....
[07:50] <posingaspopular> graficus: this nice man Admiral_Chicago answers all the questions in this chan
[07:51] <posingaspopular> if you need any help at any hour of the day/night, ask him
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> nano /etc/fstab
[07:51] <stdin> * sudo ^
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> right....do kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[07:51] <graficus> ok got it, then what?
[07:52] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on a sec.
[07:52] <graficus> "Unable to find any workgroups in your local network." I know its there
[07:53] <graficus> is there anything else i need beside samba?
[07:53] <graficus> smbns or smbfs or something i heard about
[07:53] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: no i need to google gor the answer, i don't know how to do it, only that its possible
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: http://tinyurl.com/2b39b4
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry I have to go to bed
[07:55] <mefisto__> I don't seem to have write access to my fat32 hard disk. fstab hasn't changed. But if I do "mount" in the list of mounts the disk is mounted "ro"
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: paste your fstab please
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> gangien__: does that link help?
[07:58] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7762/
[07:58] <networkparadox> help! has anyone seen my pointer it ran away last night  Where in KDE can I start to look
[07:59] <graficus> wrong mouse config?
[07:59] <networkparadox> did an apt update last night before I went to bed,
[07:59] <poningru> networkparadox: I saw it right ehre
[07:59] <poningru> 0x83721a3e
[08:00] <poningru> your pointer ^^
[08:00] <graficus> what happens when you do "xev" in term?
[08:00] <networkparadox> today my login screen is doing this wierd zoom thing and no pointer
[08:01] <graficus> @version
[08:01] <Ubugtu> The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.2.
[08:02] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: did you see the fstab?
[08:02] <graficus> me thinks he went to bed
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: yes, pasting it now.
[08:03] <Admiral_Chicago> still here, gangien__ any progress?
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7763/
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: sudo umount -a
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: sudo monunt -a
[08:04] <Admiral_Chicago> let me know if that works
[08:04] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: what is that you pasted?
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: a better fstab. the current owner was root
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> that means you needed root to do anything
[08:05] <Admiral_Chicago> but you couldn't do a chmod 700 to the /etc file because its dynamic.
[08:06] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: and who will be owner with the new fstab?
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> mefisto__: there will not be an owner.
[08:06] <Admiral_Chicago> you don't need the owner parameter
[08:07] <mefisto__> because in the current setup, I am normally the owner of that disk
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> this way user 1000 (the first use [you if there is only one user]  can use it)
[08:09] <networkparadox> my pointer hath returned, I got out of windblows and rebooted and now it is back...
[08:09] <networkparadox> Thanks for the help
[08:10] <graficus> nite
[08:11] <ghetek> does edgy support bluetooth ad2p?
[08:19] <ghetek> does anybody do stuff in kubuntu with bluetooth?
[08:23] <bele> yes
[08:25] <xerroz> anyone know why konq/ktorrent wouldnt be able to access the internet, while firefox and others have no problem?
[08:26] <hybridstorm> xerroz, do you have a firewall?
[08:26] <xerroz> hybridstorm: no
[08:26] <xerroz> even if i did, it would be very unusal for it to prevent konqueror while allowing firefox to work
[08:27] <hybridstorm> ohh it stopped konqueror too
[08:27] <hybridstorm> hmm, double checked proxy settings?
[08:28] <xerroz> they were never changed
[08:28] <hybridstorm> is this a clean install or did it just start happening?
[08:28] <xerroz> just recently
[08:29] <hybridstorm> hmm, I would retrace my steps and see what I changed....(I am by no means an expert at linux :))
[08:29] <xerroz> more than likely its a configure change from a package upgrade
[08:29] <xerroz> tracing that is like finding a needle in a huge pile of needles
[08:30] <JackPhil> kchmviewer not integrated into konqueror?
[08:30] <JackPhil> like kpdf
[08:30] <xerroz> nope
[08:30] <xerroz> brb
[08:36] <momal> Does anyone happen to know of a good conference program? I just need webcam support and typing to each other... but I need a linux and windows version.
[08:36] <tarelerulz> what is good port to use for ktorrents?
[08:40] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, what are you looking for?
[08:40] <underdog5004> momal, skype
[08:40] <momal> underdog5004: skype doesn't have camera support in linux.
[08:41] <underdog5004> oh, my bad
[08:41] <l_r> hello
[08:41] <l_r> i do not remember the version nor the name of my ubuntu system. is there any way to know both?
[08:41] <tarelerulz> I want to download a movie
[08:42] <underdog5004> l_r, lsb_release -a
[08:42] <underdog5004> !p2p
[08:42] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[08:42] <tarelerulz> I am lost I don't know what port to use
[08:42] <l_r> underdog5004, thanks
[08:42] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, on your router?
[08:42] <tarelerulz> Yes I have a router
[08:42] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, how old are you?
[08:43] <underdog5004> this is very important for determining which port
[08:43] <momal> .. >_>.. really? lol
[08:43] <underdog5004> lol
[08:43] <tarelerulz> 27 ,but I don't see what that has to do with anything
[08:43] <underdog5004> you must use port 1027 on your router
[08:43] <underdog5004> real easy
[08:44] <tarelerulz> thanks man
[08:44] <underdog5004> make sure to tell ktorrent that 1027 is the open port
[08:48] <tarelerulz_> I told my router and Ktorrent port 1027 and now the download are not working as well at all
[08:48] <Lynoure> underdog5004: Are you pulling his leg on purpose?
[08:49] <tarelerulz_> Not cool if that is so
[08:50] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, did you configure ktorrent to use port 1027?
[08:50] <tarelerulz_> Yes
[08:50] <usman> any one tell me how can install DHCP Server
[08:50] <underdog5004> Lynoure, I'm not pulling his leg, port 1027 is a perfectly acceptable port to use for torrent traffic
[08:50] <Lynoure> tarelerulz_: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1003&highlight= could help you perhaps
[08:50] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, did you set the port open to udp or tcp?
[08:50] <Lynoure> underdog5004: but by no means mandatory or typical
[08:50] <tarelerulz_> both it says
[08:51] <underdog5004> tarelerulz, hmmm, try using a different port for udp and tcp
[08:52] <underdog5004> like, port 1027 for tcp and port 1028 for udp
[08:53] <usman> any one tell me how can install DHCP Server
[08:54] <underdog5004> usman, howtoforge.net is a great place for that
[08:54] <underdog5004> usman, lemme find the right page real quick...h/o
[08:54] <usman> ok
[08:57] <underdog5004> usman, ok, here it is:         http://howtoforge.net/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[08:57] <underdog5004> I assumed ubuntu for the os...you can find other os howto's on the site though
[08:58] <usman> thx
[08:58] <prak> can anyone recommend a good project management software that's capable of making gantt chart in kubuntu linux?
[08:58] <prak> that's sort of like microsoft project in windows?