[00:02] <ST47> Okay, the problem was that my new line was before the "#includedir /etc/sudoers.d" at the bottom of the file. After moving my command after even that line, it works
[00:05] <oerheks> ST47, good spot
[00:42] <FaTaL_G> Jordan_U: no I haven't. I could
[00:50] <Jordan_U> FaTaL_G: If you'd like some help booting from an iso on your hard drive, so you can get better performance and not depend on a USB drive, I can help you with that.
[01:32] <XAEA-12> is ubuntu a good distro for developers?
[01:44] <tatertotz> XAEA-12: humans/developers, tend to be unique, (down to the fingerprint), with varying degrees of decades of experience, what's good for John, may NOT be good for Sam, Sarah and Billy
[01:45] <xbfrog> ubuntu 20.04 bluetooth keyboard not connecting. removed device and all devices were removed and now i cannot enable bluetooth how can i fix this?
[01:45] <xbfrog> it now says no bluetooth found
[01:47] <xbfrog> even tho i turn on any device to pair
[01:59] <FaTaL_G> Jordan_U: I boot on ssd
[02:06] <alch3mist> Hi all, I have added a custom resolution in ubuntu, but I seem not to be able to select it, when I select it it either won't accept it, or if visually it seems like it's selected it truly hasn't changed the resolution.
[02:06] <alch3mist> any suggestions?
[02:08] <alch3mist> steps I took, 1. used CVT to get my custom modeline info, added the newmode, assigned the added mode to my active display
[02:08] <alch3mist> (ignore #1 in there, I put than all the steps in one line and forgot to remove "1")
[02:18] <samdragon> Hello. I totally borked my laptop with a recent upgrade. I can't boot, it fails at initramfs and drops into busybox. Ive searched a bunch and it seems like I should be able to recover if I can reconfigure the initramfs but when I boot into a Live USB, I cant see the internal root harddrive listed with any of the normal utilities. I think it might
[02:18] <samdragon> be due to encryption on the device. Any help or guidance is really appreciated.
[02:27] <gnoob> wasn't there something about a GRUB update that broke booting.  Maybe 2 weeks ago maybe less.
[02:30] <gnoob> samdragon: does this work?
[02:30] <gnoob> https://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/
[02:30] <samdragon> that sounds promising, let me look that up. the other wrinkle is I had tested using the 5.6 kernel for a wifi fix and I think that I was booted up with that kernel when the updates ran. is that really bad or not that bad? Its a 20.04 system so the base kernel was 5.4.42
[02:31] <samdragon> thanks gnoob, I'll look at that article right meow
[02:32] <alch3mist> got disconnected, if anyone answered my question above please let me know since I might have missed the response, thanks
[02:32] <gnoob> samdragon: you second question is beyond my knowledge but I know you should be able to boot a previous kernel.  https://starlabs.kb.help/guides/booting-with-a-previous-kernel/
[02:33] <gnoob> alch3mist: I scrolled up.  Unfortunately no one replied.
[02:36] <alch3mist> thanks for letting me know, gnoob, I'll just stick around then to see if I get any naswers.
[02:48] <samdragon> gnoob: when I run `cat /proc/partitions` it just shows me the same list of devices as the other utilities.
[02:49] <samdragon> ```ubuntu@ubuntu:/proc$ sudo cat partitions major minor  #blocks  name   7        0    2001176 loop0   7        1      27740 loop1   7        2      56264 loop2   7        3     246576 loop3   7        4      63580 loop4   7        5      50980 loop5   8        0   15451648 sda   8        1    2651616 sda1   8        2       3968 sda2   8        3
[02:49] <samdragon> 12799488 sda3```
[02:49] <samdragon> that didnt format but i see a bunch of sda partitions, but thats the USB im pretty sure
[02:52] <gnoob> samdragon:  sda should be your linux partition?
[02:53] <samdragon> is it? Im assuming thats the live USB, because of this output of fdisk -l
[02:53] <samdragon> Disk /dev/sda: 14.75 GiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes, 30903296 sectorsDisk model: USB Flash Drive
[02:53] <samdragon> Disk /dev/sda: 14.75 GiB,<PHONE_NUMBER>2 bytes, 30903296 sectorsDisk model: USB Flash Drive
[02:54] <Bashing-om> samdragon: Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' from the liveUSB for the channel's inpection.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> !paste | samdragon
[02:54] <samdragon> sorry. im bad at IRC
[02:55] <Bashing-om> samdragon: We were all new at one time - bad is not an issue :P
[02:55] <samdragon> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rgYMYNnrRq/
[02:56] <Bashing-om> samdragon: Yukkie: "Apple" let's me out - no experience here to guide you :(
[02:58] <samdragon> I think that's just the USB though, right? not the laptop's drive. its not a macbook
[02:58] <samdragon> I dunno why it says that, maybe I originally formatted the usb on a macbook a while back
[02:59] <Bashing-om> samdragon: I can accept that it is the USB as we have "Disk /dev/sda: 63.3GB". But should have also shown the internal drive.
[03:01] <samdragon> even if it's encrypted or the initramfs cant find the device?
[03:02] <echoSMILE> hi. Is there a way to turn a laptop into a loudspeaker with ubuntu without the feedback efect ?
[08:12] <thyriaen> Hiho, i am running Ubuntu 20.04 and i would like to get OpenCL running with my RX5700XT and i am wondering if navi is not supported yet, because i get the following error when i try to get clinfo
[08:12] <thyriaen> '/usr/lib/clc/gfx1010-amdgcn-mesa-mesa3d.bc': No such file or directory
[08:15] <tatertotz> thyriaen: did you install the driver?
[08:15] <thyriaen> i did install libclc, and the icd
[08:16] <tatertotz> thyriaen: ok, so you didn't install the driver then
[08:16] <tatertotz> thyriaen: open terminal
[08:17] <thyriaen> isnt the icd runtime the driver ?
[08:18] <tatertotz> RX5700XT driver
[08:18] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: the feedback is (usually) not caused by software, but by the audio periphals you use and how they are situated to one another. use a microphone that doesn't capture surrounding sound (such as a lavalier mic), and / or directional audio output. think of how a megaphone combines the recording and output device: the speaker is located at the opposite side to the microphone, and the speaker is surrounded by a plastic wrapping to ensure it
[08:18] <tomreyn> doesn'T output toweards the microphone, and to create directional sound.
[08:18] <thyriaen> tatertotz, what is the package called ?
[08:18] <tatertotz> thyriaen: you're probably still using amdgpu, it's not a package from the ubuntu repos, you have to get it from AMD
[08:19] <tomreyn> echoSMILE: this said, maybe that's rather for #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <thyriaen> yea i am using amdgpu
[08:21] <tatertotz> thyriaen: you can download it from the AMD website
[08:22] <tatertotz> thyriaen: this a merely a version, you haven't really shared enough technical details for anything else so you'll have to search on your own for the version you need
[08:22] <tatertotz> thyriaen: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-amdgpu-unified-linux
[08:22] <thyriaen> i would like to stick the the opensource implementation and not use amdgpu-pro i had a similar problem with vega when it released but was able to fix it somehow
[08:23] <tatertotz> thyriaen: ok , i understand...good luck
[08:23] <thyriaen> thanks :=)
[08:28] <tomreyn> while i think we should not claim to be able to support this setup here, i think what thyriaen wanted is https://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas/amdgpu.html
[08:49] <eliyahutbr> hey guys. running 20.04. getting "no wifi adapter found"  lscpi tells me 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 31). What do I do?
[08:50] <eliyahutbr> i've tried googling w/o success
[08:55] <eliyahutbr> did i miss an answer while rebooting by chance?
[08:57] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: let's get some details. Does the PC have any other network connectivity to the Internet right now?
[09:02] <eliyahutbr> yeah TJ. I'm wired in.
[09:02] <eliyahutbr> I can give ya whatever you need.
[09:02] <eliyahutbr> this happened within the last few days. I suspect one of the system upgrades broke things.
[09:03] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dR8M49nHnV/
[09:05] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: OK so kernel level looks correct
[09:05] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: is it a desktop system?
[09:06] <eliyahutbr> laptop
[09:06] <eliyahutbr> dell
[09:06] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: if so I suggest you check the NetworkManager logs with "journalctl -b 0 -u NetworkManager" -- it'll load into 'less' so press 'G' (capital G) to goto End and work backwards looking for clues when it tries and fails to connect
[09:07] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: or you can do "journalctl -f -u NetworkManager" which will 'tail' the log ... then try connecting
[09:07] <eliyahutbr> can i dump the text? This is beyond my level of understanding.
[09:09] <eliyahutbr>  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbNjCBkyCd/
[09:09] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8c2BFMDgsD/
[09:11] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: I don't see any attempt to make a Wifi connection in that log
[09:12] <eliyahutbr> my gui tells me No Wi-Fi Adapter Found. Make sure yuouhave a Wi-Fi adapter plugged in and turned on.
[09:12] <eliyahutbr> *you have
[09:12] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: ahhh!
[09:12] <eliyahutbr> i like 'ahhh!'
[09:12] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: what does "nmcli device" report?
[09:13] <eliyahutbr> DEVICE  TYPE      STATE      CONNECTION         enp1s0  ethernet  connected  Wired connection 1 lo      loopback  unmanaged  --
[09:13] <eliyahutbr> no wifi device listed
[09:14] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: right... let's dig: "pastebinit <( ip link show; ls -l /sys/class/net )"
[09:15] <eliyahutbr> is that sytax correct?
[09:15] <eliyahutbr> patebinit?
[09:15] <eliyahutbr> pastebinit rather
[09:16] <eliyahutbr> nvm
[09:16] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: indeed' you can just copy/paste that command inside the " "
[09:16] <eliyahutbr> /paste.ubuntu.com/p/6XZ8dQ75VV/
[09:16] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6XZ8dQ75VV/
[09:16] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: OK so no device!
[09:17] <eliyahutbr> thats nifty. i'm gonna have to learn about how to use pastbinit for sure
[09:17] <eliyahutbr> indeed. no device.
[09:17] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: lets go back to basics - I suspect it may be missing firmware. "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; journalctl -b 0 -k )"
[09:18] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gb4WwxJpWj/
[09:19] <TJ-> aha! line 1060
[09:19] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: something to do with (not) setting the regulatory domain which determines the frequencies allowed
[09:19] <eliyahutbr> weirdness
[09:19] <eliyahutbr> let me read this
[09:19] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: that contains a path to something YOU have built "/home/eliyahu/backport-iwlwifi/net/wireless/core.c"
[09:20] <eliyahutbr> that was my 1st attempt to fix this
[09:20] <eliyahutbr> let me see if i can get rid of that
[09:20] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: yes, that might help to begin with
[09:22] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: all those ACPI Errors suggest the PC's firmware is buggy too
[09:28] <eliyahutbr> i cant find the instuctions i followed to undo them.
[09:28] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: check your system has the declared firmware files of the driver: "modinfo -F firmware | grep 9377; find /lib/firmware/ath10k/ | grep QCA9377 "
[09:28] <eliyahutbr> argh
[09:28] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: I'm guessing you've force installed that driver, was it using DKMS?
[09:28] <eliyahutbr> sounds right
[09:28] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: check "dkms status"
[09:29] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7TDr6xdHQj/
[09:29] <eliyahutbr> dkms status returns nothing
[09:29] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: bhah, my bad typing
[09:29] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: check your system has the declared firmware files of the driver: "modinfo -F firmware ath10k_pci | grep 9377; find /lib/firmware/ath10k/ | grep QCA9377 "
[09:30] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p786yZBKcG/
[09:30] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: for that iwlwifi module to be loaded then you must be force-loading it
[09:30] <eliyahutbr> appreciate all your help TJ. Where on the globe are you?
[09:31] <eliyahutbr> how do I get rid of the force loaded module?
[09:31] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: pastebinit <( sudo grep -rn iwlwifi /etc/ )"
[09:32] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: firmware/driver looks good. Which Ubuntu version and kernel are you using? "uname -a; lsb_release -r"
[09:32] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KhqDCSk5xW/
[09:32] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/33KQY2vxjw/
[09:33] <eliyahutbr> ping. did i loose connection?
[09:33] <TJ-> no
[09:33] <eliyahutbr> "/sbin/lsmod | grep -o -e ^iwlmvm -e ^iwldvm -e ^iwlwifi | xargs /sbin/rmmod)" will that get rid of it
[09:34] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: no, that is expected, it is to remove submodules when the parent module is removed
[09:34] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "lsmod | grep iwlwifi"
[09:34] <eliyahutbr> returns nothing
[09:35] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: how about "lsmod | grep iwl"
[09:35] <eliyahutbr> nada
[09:36] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: how about " modinfo cfg80211 | head -n 1 "
[09:37] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: I think the issue is you've built a completely new wifi stack including the regulatory control modules, which are conflicting
[09:39] <rongx1an> (ubuntu+fluxbox) how to define fn keys to alter brightness, volume etc?
[09:39] <eliyahutbr> filename:       /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko
[09:41] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: aha! "updates" tells me it is from DKMS or siilar
[09:41] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: are you sure "dkms status" returned nothing?
[09:41] <eliyahutbr> yup
[09:42] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: show me "pastebinit <( ls -l /usr/src )"
[09:43] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xzT6SBsFVW/
[09:43] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: aha! show me "pastebinit <( ls -l /usr/src/backport-iwlwifi )"
[09:44] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MvrWXGY9v6/
[09:44] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: strange, that is definitely a DKMS installed module, you can see the 'dkms.conf' file
[09:44] <eliyahutbr> how can I wipe that?
[09:45] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: well if it was installed by DKMS you'd use 'dkms remove' but it looks like it was installed in some other way
[09:46] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: let's try something obvious: "pushd /usr/src/backport-iwlwifi; sudo make uninstall"  -- tell me if it seems to do something useful like uninstall :D
[09:47] <eliyahutbr> rebnooting
[09:48] <eliyahutbr> back.
[09:49] <eliyahutbr> so whats next TJ?
[09:49] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: did the previous command uninstall anything?
[09:50] <eliyahutbr> yup. told me to reboot
[09:50] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: great, so lets check how things stand now
[09:50] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"
[09:51] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/73V5d8WYqB/
[09:52] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: same problem /home/eliyahu/backport-iwlwifi/net/wireless/reg.c:2347 wiphy_apply_custom_regulatory+0xb6/0xd0 [cfg80211]
[09:52] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: " modinfo cfg80211 | head -n 1 " again please
[09:53] <eliyahutbr> filename:       /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko\
[09:53] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: still the 'updates' version. let's see if the original is still there and then kill this 'updates' version
[09:53] <eliyahutbr> amen to that
[09:54] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name 'cfg80211*' -ls )"
[09:54] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dmp9DZ3hZT/
[09:56] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: good! it'll have several other modules that depend on it so we can't easily unpick it live, so we'll do a brute-force removal and reboot
[09:56] <eliyahutbr> i'm game.
[09:56] <eliyahutbr> at this point if you weren't here i would be doing a reinstall
[09:57] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "sudo rm /lib/modules/5.4.0-42-generic/updates/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko ; sudo depmod --all; sudo systemctl reboot" ... see you soon :)
[09:57] <eliyahutbr> ok
[10:02] <eliyahutbr> back
[10:02] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: OK, shall we check what state is now? "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"
[10:02] <gavimobile> hi folks, i am trying a new install of ubuntu server 16.04.6. my first challeng during the install is it says at the boot "no network interfaces detected". i have an intel ethernet (7) i219-lm nic card installed. can someone please assist?>
[10:02] <gavimobile> thanks
[10:03] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7WR2C2k2NN/
[10:03] <TJ-> gavimobile: just a guess, but it is possible the kernel in 16.04.6 doesn't have support for that Ethernet device
[10:05] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: OK, that's unmasked the underlying error - not sure what the cause is as yet but now we are on the correct trail
[10:05] <eliyahutbr> awesome. thanks for all your help so far
[10:05] <eliyahutbr> guide me oh guru
[10:06] <jeremy31> eliyahutbr: Is there a backports-iwlwifi folder in home?
[10:06] <eliyahutbr> yeah
[10:06] <eliyahutbr> should i get rid of it?
[10:06] <jeremy31> eliyahutbr: in terminal>  cd backports-iwlwifi && sudo make uninstall
[10:06] <TJ-> jeremy31: it's actually /usr/src/
[10:07] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: it looks like there may be more 'updates' so before doing that lets check
[10:07] <jeremy31> Still have mac80211 and compat module to get rid of
[10:07] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "pastebinit <( find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates -ls )"
[10:08] <TJ-> jeremy31: yeah; checking if they're there. We already did a 'make uninstall'
[10:08] <eliyahutbr> fully up to date
[10:09] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DfqKtxQK5p/
[10:10] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: so 'uninstall' ... didn't! let's rip it out: "sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/" then reboot
[10:11] <eliyahutbr> bbiab
[10:11] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: hang on!!!
[10:11] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: doh
[10:12] <eliyahutbr> tooooo late
[10:12] <eliyahutbr> i just saw that 'hang on' now
[10:12] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: how does "ls -l /sys/class/net/" look now?
[10:13] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: hehehe don't worry, it wasn't vital
[10:13] <eliyahutbr> total 0
[10:13] <eliyahutbr> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Aug 16 13:11 enp1s0 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/0000:01:00.0/net/enp1s0 wxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Aug 16 13:11 lo -> ../../devices/virtual/net/lo
[10:13] <eliyahutbr> no wireless
[10:14] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: OK, so back to kernel log yet again! "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k )"
[10:15] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hB53vxmGQm/
[10:15] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "sudo depmod --all"
[10:16] <eliyahutbr> that didn't return anything
[10:16] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: good, that means success
[10:17] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: now let's see what is loaded: "lsmod | grep ath"
[10:17] <eliyahutbr> success in ripping out i assume?
[10:17] <eliyahutbr> also returns empty
[10:17] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: 'depmod' means 'update module dependencies' - it was the 'hang on!!!' earlier :D
[10:17] <eliyahutbr> gotcha
[10:18] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: check the module isn't attached to the device right now with "lspci -nnk -d ::0280" --- that should report the device but show no kernel driver in use
[10:18] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: it'll likely show "Kernel modules: ath10k_pci"
[10:19] <eliyahutbr> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0042] (rev 31)	Subsystem: Dell QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [1028:1810]	Kernel modules: ath10k_pci
[10:19] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: good; let's try a manual load: "sudo modprobe ath10k_pci" then "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 -k -n 100)"
[10:21] <eliyahutbr> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BfgtfMXvWZ/
[10:22] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: you're up
[10:22] <eliyahutbr> holy crap
[10:22] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: "wlp2s0: associated"
[10:22] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: reboot and test now please, so we are sure it works correctly and not just manually
[10:22] <eliyahutbr> now is it fixed or am I going to need to load something everytime or set it up to do so?
[10:22] <eliyahutbr> brb
[10:24] <eliyahutbr> we are golden @TJ. Thanks for all your help.
[10:24] <eliyahutbr> Todah Raba mYerushalim = Thank you very much from Jerusalem.
[10:24] <TJ-> eliyahutbr: good we finally got there
[10:25] <eliyahutbr> just intime for me to go into a meeting. Have a great day (night, evening, morning, whatever)
[11:33] <JoeVannie> hi
[11:34] <JoeVannie> i do not know if i am logged well, can anyone read me?
[11:36] <JoeVannie> i can see ppl leaving
[11:36] <JoeVannie> hi mue
[11:36] <JoeVannie> mue can you read me?
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> we see you JoeVannie
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> do you have an ubuntu question?
[11:37] <JoeVannie> oh okok thanks god
[11:37] <JoeVannie> yes
[11:37] <JoeVannie> i need help sadly
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> ask away JoeVannie
[11:37] <JoeVannie> i have a usb stick i am unable to format
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: wich error do you get with wich tool?
[11:38] <blscoe> Found pop os bug that causes priv escalation in linux emergency mode
[11:38] <JoeVannie> i tried everything, from gparted to terminal. the stick is read only ( i do not know why) and im not the owner. i cannot change the permissions nor the ownership
[11:38] <lotuspsychje> blscoe: we only support ubuntu derivatives here
[11:39] <blscoe> might apply to ubuntu
[11:39] <blscoe> And is very serious
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: while you try thinngs, open a journalctl -f to see relevant issues
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> blscoe: whats it about exactly?
[11:39] <JoeVannie> do i have to type journalctl -f into terminal?
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: yes
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: then try to format your stick
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> plug out/back in etc
[11:40] <JoeVannie> in the same terminal?
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: no, the journal will log things in realtime while you test things out
[11:42] <blscoe> Badusb > systemd crash > root, i know ubuntu uses grub by default but still worrying
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> blscoe: badusb?
[11:44] <blscoe> Yes
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> blscoe: infected usb with?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:47] <JoeVannie> lotuspsychje what should i do now?
[11:47] <JoeVannie> btw thanks for the help
[11:48] <JoeVannie> BluesKaj hello :)
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: did you try to format the stick?
[11:48] <JoeVannie> yes
[11:48] <JoeVannie> no luck again sadly
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: ok pastebin the whole output of the journal log please
[11:50] <JoeVannie> https://pastebin.com/8qdDqE8a
[11:50] <JoeVannie> is it ok like that? i never used pastebin
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: yes tnx, reading
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: mtp-probe[14816]: bus: 2, device: 5 was not an MTP device is not such good news
[11:53] <JoeVannie> what does it mean?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: gparted.desktop[6180]: Can't write to /dev/sdb, because it is opened read-only.
[11:54] <JoeVannie> yes that is the error i got every time
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: lets try something else; sudo apt install testdisk
[11:55] <JoeVannie> i dunno why, i just plugged that new usb stick in a tv about 1 week ago, and now it's just useless :/
[11:55] <JoeVannie> installed
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: now, sudo photorec
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: and check if you can see your sandisk in the list
[11:56] <JoeVannie> i can
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: ok, then maybe there's still hope
[11:57] <JoeVannie> also i see a lot of /dev/loopx (x is a number) i dunno why
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: those are snap dirs
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> dont mind those
[11:57] <JoeVannie> as long as it's normal it's ok lol
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: do you still need the data on the stick, or can your format all?
[11:58] <JoeVannie> i can format
[11:58] <BluesKaj> hi JoeVannie
[11:58] <lotuspsychje> allright, do you have another Os to try to format around JoeVannie ?
[11:58] <JoeVannie> oh i tried the solution with all 0 to the memory, but no luck
[11:59] <JoeVannie> my dad tried on windows but no luck
[11:59] <JoeVannie> still read only problem
[11:59] <JoeVannie> (sorry for my english, i know it's bad)
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: did you doublecheck if your stick has a hard switch on/off somwhere?
[12:01] <JoeVannie> yep, no phisical switch
[12:01] <JoeVannie> i know it's so strange
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: try sudo umount /dev/[device] and then gparted as root again
[12:03] <JoeVannie> isn't gparted always root?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: it should ask your pass yeah
[12:04] <JoeVannie> still "read only" error
[12:04] <lotuspsychje> right
[12:04] <JoeVannie> idk if it can help but one partition is jfl
[12:05] <_jak> Hey everyone! I have a mouse that, up until my most recent reboot, was accepting the libinput Natural Scrolling property, but now when I try to set it, I get the error message that the property "libinput Natural Scrolling doesn't exist" which is very confusing! Any ideas? Also let me know if there's some other info I could give to make it clearer what's going on
[12:05] <JoeVannie> sorry, it's jfs
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: did you play with wrt devices of some kind on it?
[12:07] <JoeVannie> i dunno what wrt is
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> nvm then
[12:08] <JoeVannie> i dunno nvm
[12:08] <JoeVannie> i'm sorry i am very noob :(
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: well im not sure about this issue, maybe other volunteers might have ideas
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: maybe a: sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/sdX
[12:10] <JoeVannie> i tried already. it say "read only = 0" but it's just not true
[12:10] <_jak> nvm, I figured it out. New question now: does anyone know why the same device might appear in the xinput list multiple times?
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: ok
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: can your pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX
[12:14] <JoeVannie> i dunno why it say no such file or directory
[12:15] <nbusrone> May i know what is environment variables  'printenv' ? i search online but not so well knowing the meaning of it.In layman terms ?
[12:15] <JoeVannie> lotuspsychje https://pastebin.com/SYEFR3qu
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: what about sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[12:17] <JoeVannie> https://pastebin.com/sK6B75UR
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: 2 unknown partition types eh?
[12:20] <JoeVannie> gparted is showing jfs and ext3
[12:20] <JoeVannie> dunno why here is unknown
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: maybe its getting stuck on that jfs somehow, not sure
[12:21] <JoeVannie> i amo not able to format the ext3 neither
[12:26] <Speiros> JoeVannie What are you wanting to do mate?
[12:26] <JoeVannie> i'm trying to format a usb drive, but i am not able to do it cause it's read only
[12:26] <Speiros> Is your gparted on a CD?
[12:26] <Speiros> DVD rather?
[12:27] <JoeVannie> nope, it's an app i installed
[12:27] <Speiros> Okay. If you do it from a DVD, you can open from the DVD and then access the USB drive from there, I'm quite sure.
[12:28] <Speiros> distrowatch.com has gparted on it if I recall, that you can download to a DVD
[12:28] <Speiros> I'll check
[12:28] <Speiros> Yep.
[12:29] <Speiros> If you want the link, JoeVannie, here it is: https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted
[12:30] <JoeVannie> i do not have the cd reader sigh
[12:30] <JoeVannie> i'm on a dell latitude e7250
[12:31] <Speiros> Can you open up "disks" in your computer app source? like where you'd find terminal etc. I forget the name.
[12:31] <Speiros> Are you running 18.04?
[12:31] <JoeVannie> i can open disk utility
[12:31] <Speiros> Yep.
[12:31] <JoeVannie> i'm running 20.04
[12:31] <Speiros> Can you format the USB from there?
[12:31] <Speiros> Ah, okay.
[12:31] <JoeVannie> nope, it's all greyed out
[12:31] <Speiros> Okay.
[12:32] <JoeVannie> it's a nightmare, i can assure you :(
[12:32] <Speiros> Yes.
[12:32] <Speiros> Sorry.
[12:32] <JoeVannie> it's about 7 hours i'm trying
[12:32] <Speiros> Can you open as root?
[12:33] <JoeVannie> yes
[12:33] <Speiros> I don't mean to do it now, but intheory?
[12:33] <Speiros> Okay.
[12:33] <Speiros> Hmm, I forget the commands now, but you can do it through terminal too.
[12:33] <JoeVannie> but still i am not able to change permissions
[12:33] <Speiros> What are you typing to change the permissions?
[12:34] <JoeVannie> i used nautilus as root, mounted the usb drive, and then i clicked permissions. i also used chown
[12:34] <JoeVannie> i do not get any errors, but permissions do not change
[12:34] <Speiros> Changed it to 777, from within the correct directory?
[12:34] <JoeVannie> yes
[12:34] <Speiros> Have you rebooted since?
[12:34] <JoeVannie> 2 or 3 times but still no luck
[12:35] <Speiros> Sorry mate. It sounds awkward.
[12:35] <Speiros> I can't help from here, as I can't see what's going on there, but sorry it's so frustrating.
[12:35] <JoeVannie> i know, i'm lost. i used all the commands i found on the internet lol
[12:35] <Speiros> Did you have trouble before upgrading to 20.04?
[12:36] <JoeVannie> no trouble with 18.04 nor with 20.04
[12:36] <JoeVannie> it's all working flawlessly
[12:37] <Speiros> Okay.
[12:37] <JoeVannie> i even formatted a usb drive with no problem in 20.04
[12:37] <Speiros> Just this specific one?
[12:37] <JoeVannie> nope, i formatted another
[12:37] <JoeVannie> i mean, i have problems just with that one yes
[12:37] <Speiros> All good.
[12:37] <Speiros> I'm not sure mate. Do you know what is on it?
[12:38] <JoeVannie> i plugged into a tv and now it has a strange jfs partition
[12:38] <JoeVannie> on the drive? yes i can see the files
[12:38] <Speiros> Is the partition separate to the partition with the files on it?
[12:39] <JoeVannie> i dunno how to check
[12:39] <JoeVannie> i have a jfs and a ext3
[12:39] <JoeVannie> oh nono they are on jfs partition
[12:39] <Speiros> Okay.
[12:40] <Speiros> I don't know how you can do it, but if you know a friend nearby, get Gparted on a separate DVD, or even download it and prepare it on a flash drive (but then you'll need other things to make it bootable), and you can run Gparted from there.
[12:41] <Speiros> If you are going to format it anyway, you could test changing the settings and flags on it.
[12:42] <JoeVannie> what do you mean by changing flags?
[12:42] <JoeVannie> i think the drive could be bootable
[12:42] <JoeVannie> cause when i restarted my pc it looks like it's trying to boot from usb, saying to me "no partition table"
[12:43] <JoeVannie> however i cannot make a new partition table cause of the read only error
[12:43] <Speiros> If you look in Gparted, it will have a dropdown, or something similar, showing the flags.
[12:43] <Speiros> I can't remember what they are though, but it could be there.
[12:44] <tatertotz> 0
[12:45] <JoeVannie> it seems no flag are active for jfs
[12:46] <JoeVannie> nor ext3
[12:46] <Speiros> Okay. I think this is beyond me, I'm afraid.
[12:46] <JoeVannie> thank you :)
[12:46] <JoeVannie> u are so kind
[12:47] <JoeVannie> thank you for your time dude :)
[12:47] <Speiros> If you are going to format it anyway, you could mess around with the disks program and gparted, but I don't know if that is worthwhile or not.
[12:47] <Speiros> My pleasure mate :)
[12:48] <xbfrog> Hi. i'm using ubuntu 20.04 i removed a bluetooth keyboard that was paired but wasnt connecting and in the process lost any bluetooth connection abliity. the message i get in bluetooth settings is "no bluetooth found plug in a dongle to use bluetooth" bluetooth was working fine i had 2 headsets keyboard and a game contorller paired till this happened.
[12:48] <JoeVannie> i just tryed all but still no luck
[12:49] <JoeVannie> if anyone has an idea i'll sit here :)  thank you all
[12:50] <Speiros> Have you restarted the computer, xbfrog?
[12:50] <xbfrog> yep several times
[12:50] <Speiros> It is the only thing I can think of from my limited knowledge.
[12:50] <Speiros> Okay.
[12:50] <Speiros> Sorry.
[13:16] <Mat63> Hello, what software is there to derive truth tables?
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[13:22] <Speiros> leaftype eventually you will get a ban. Do you have a question, or are you just bored?
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[13:23] <coconut> someone can ban leaftype?
[13:23] <Speiros> He's been silenced.
[13:23] <coconut> :)
[13:23] <Speiros> Thanks, Drone.
[14:38] <JoeVannie> hello again
[14:38] <JoeVannie> i am trying for the second time
[14:39] <Speiros> I hope it works for you mate.
[14:39] <JoeVannie> is there anyone who know how to force format a diabolical usb stick that have read only permission?
[14:40] <JoeVannie> my only hope is ppl in this chat lol i spent 20 min just figuring out how to get that works
[14:40] <JoeVannie> btw, why do you use that chat and not like telegram? if i may ask
[14:41] <tomreyn> usually it's due to either a file system which was mounted uncleanly, or due to media failure.
[14:42] <JoeVannie> i have a file system for that usb, but it's read only too :/
[14:42] <JoeVannie> is there a way to just force the format?
[14:43] <JoeVannie> like "i don't care about nothing, just erase all"?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> JoeVannie: please show the pastebins we tryed earlier if you re-ask your question, so volunteers can pick up where we left
[14:43] <JoeVannie> oh ok sorry
[14:43] <tomreyn> unmount any file systems the system has mounte don the stick, then run fsck against all the file systems. or, if you no longer need the data, just write a new partition table and format (mkfs) then.
[14:43] <JoeVannie> https://pastebin.com/8qdDqE8a
[14:44] <JoeVannie> https://pastebin.com/SYEFR3qu
[14:45] <JoeVannie> tomreyn it doesn't work, that's the problem. mkfs is giving error cause the usb is read only, so i cannot write on or erase
[14:45] <Speiros> Maybe you have the file open in read-only before you have it opened again as root?
[14:46] <Speiros> NOt sure.
[14:46] <JoeVannie> umh.... can you explain me better? i'm not that good with english
[14:46] <JoeVannie> nor with ubuntu xD
[14:46] <Speiros> Have you already got the file open on your desktop before you opened it again in root?
[14:47] <Speiros> I mean, was it open two times?
[14:47] <JoeVannie> wich file?
[14:47] <Speiros> At the same time?
[14:47] <JoeVannie> the file system of the usb drive cannot be opened
[14:47] <Speiros> The hard drive,
[14:47] <JoeVannie> even in root
[14:47] <JoeVannie> the hardrive is automounted when plugged in
[14:48] <oxek> why is it bad advice to set "alias sudo='sudo '"?
[14:48] <JoeVannie> so yes, i need to open it when not root and then i can root
[14:48] <Speiros> Okay. You can unmount it with files, JoeVannie, or you can umount, but I don't know if this is a good idea without somebody else having input.
[14:49] <JoeVannie> and after unmounting?
[14:49] <Speiros> That is the problem. I don't know if the computer will see it in media then.
[14:49] <JoeVannie> nope
[14:49] <Speiros> That is why I need someone else to advise on that.
[14:49] <JoeVannie> if you unmount the device it disappear in /media
[14:50] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: so this is about a SanDisk Cruzer Blade (32GB) USB stick, right? can you look for its persistent path by doing    ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:51] <JoeVannie> i did it tomreyn
[14:51] <JoeVannie> i *just did it
[14:51] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: this command should have printed a url you can share here
[14:52] <JoeVannie> https://termbin.com/jco3
[14:52] <JoeVannie> whoa... you guys are just amazing btw :)  you really know how to use terminal
[14:53] <tomreyn> so the persistent device path is /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0
[14:53] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: please close any software which may be accessing the usb stick, such as file browsers, gparted etc.
[14:53] <JoeVannie> ok
[14:53] <tomreyn> also "gnome disks"
[14:54] <Speiros> :D
[14:54] <JoeVannie> i close everything except for you hahaha
[14:54] <JoeVannie> so i'm sure
[14:55] <JoeVannie> done
[14:55] <tomreyn> okay, now open a terminal windows and run     cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:55] <samdragon> I did a simple update yesterday and it completely borked my system. I cant boot up, I get issues with initramfs not being able to find the device by UUID
[14:56] <JoeVannie> https://termbin.com/qsos
[14:56] <tomreyn> samdragon: try selecting an earlier kernel from grub's "advanced" menu
[14:56] <mindbyte> Hello, why does Ubuntu Server in general not tell my DHCP Server its hostname? I always have to tell my DNS Server about my maschine manually. I'm mostly using systemd-networkd.
[14:56] <samdragon> Im booted into a live USB, but various bugs/threads online say to reconfigure initramfs but the internal HD isnt showing up in any of the normal utilities like parted, blkid, etc
[14:57] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: do you need the data on the stick?
[14:57] <samdragon> tomreyn: so I had installed 5.6 to test a fix for wifi. I think I was booted into that kernel when the updates happened. Would that be really bad or just kinda bad or not bad?
[14:57] <JoeVannie> nope, i just wanna win over it now hahaha
[14:57] <samdragon> and since, i've tried all 3 kernel versions I have installed, 5.4.40 5.4.42 and 5.6.X
[14:57] <JoeVannie> kidding, i was asked to format the stick
[14:58] <JoeVannie> so no, i don't need
[14:58] <samdragon> initramfs just cant find my internal HD. I also used the defaults for Secure Boot and FDE
[14:59] <samdragon> ive tried this tutorial https://alvinabad.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/how-to-recover-a-luks-encrypted-disk/ but `cat /proc/partitions` doesnt show the internal HD
[15:00] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos
[15:00] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: run this, then report what it returned
[15:01] <JoeVannie> giovanni@giovanni-Latitude-E7250:~$ sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos[sudo] password for giovanni: Warning: Unable to open /dev/sdc read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdchas been opened read-only.Warning: The existing disk label on /dev/sdc will be destroyed and all data onthis disk
[15:01] <JoeVannie> will be lost. Do you want to continue?Yes/No? y                                                                 Error: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel? iError: Can't write to /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel? I                                                          Error: Can't write to
[15:01] <JoeVannie> /dev/sdc, because it is opened read-only.Ignore/Cancel?
[15:02] <tomreyn> samdragon: sorry, I can't help you right now, just wanted to throw you a wuick suggestion while i'm working with JoeVannie - but maybe someone else can
[15:02] <samdragon> ok thanks
[15:02] <Speiros> Good job too, tomreyn :)
[15:03] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: sudo hdparm -r0 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0
[15:04] <JoeVannie>  setting readonly to 0 (off) readonly      =  0 (off)
[15:04] <JoeVannie> this is a lie btw
[15:04] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: sudo parted /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 mklabel msdos
[15:05] <shibboleth> yeah, if those go read-only it's usually a sign that they're about to go
[15:05] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: please use a pastebin to report the output
[15:05] <tomreyn> https://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:05] <JoeVannie> same error
[15:06] <JoeVannie> still "opened as read only
[15:06] <Speiros> Interesting name, shibboleth :)
[15:06] <JoeVannie> idk what is shibboleth but anytime my university site does not work it appears shibboleth
[15:06] <Speiros> Do you have the drive opened by any other means on your computer, JoeVannie?
[15:06] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: unplug the device, check whether it has a small switch on it for making it read-only
[15:07] <JoeVannie> tomreyn the stick has no hardware switch
[15:07] <shibboleth> JoeVannie, shibboleth is, iirc also the name of a SSO product
[15:07] <JoeVannie> Speiros idk how to check that
[15:07] <JoeVannie> i closed everything
[15:07] <Speiros> Try what tomreyn suggested, JoeVannie.
[15:08] <JoeVannie> i checked but no switch
[15:08] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: it's defective, replace it.
[15:09] <JoeVannie> ugh. that seems weid, cause the stick is like new
[15:09] <JoeVannie> it worked fine until my da plugged into the tv
[15:10] <JoeVannie> then the tv just auto-parted it and now it's like a mess. is it possible that the tv broke my stick?
[15:11] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: i wouldn't know. contact seller / sandisk about it, providing the serial number<PHONE_NUMBER>16001336CD) and proof of purchase.
[15:11] <JoeVannie> tomreyn is there a way to literally erase all, even if the stick is protected?
[15:11] <samdragon> I pulled out my old laptop to dual setup while troubleshooting.
[15:12] <tomreyn> i just don't think you have any options left to try to reanimate it with software. maybe there's some low-level utility from sandisk, but that'd be it.
[15:12] <JoeVannie> ok, thank you all for the time :)
[15:12] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: you could try to ATA secure erase it, but it's unlikely that it has this implemented.
[15:12] <JoeVannie> uh
[15:12] <JoeVannie> just let's try lol
[15:13] <JoeVannie> what is that?
[15:14] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: hdparm -I /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:14] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_Secure_Erase
[15:14] <JoeVannie> https://termbin.com/nfs4
[15:14] <tomreyn> JoeVannie: sudo hdparm -I /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade_200517396216001336CD-0:0 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:15] <tomreyn> (sorry, i forgot sudo)
[15:15] <JoeVannie> https://termbin.com/q9db
[15:16] <tomreyn> as expected, it does not support ATA secure erase.
[15:16] <JoeVannie> does it need to be secure? hahahha
[15:17] <JoeVannie> can't we just skip that word and wipe the hell out of it ? XD
[15:18] <tomreyn> no. we've tried any options i could think of.
[15:18] <JoeVannie> ok thank you again :)  you all are really kind
[15:18] <JoeVannie> it's so good to see a community like that, thank you all again <3
[15:19] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[15:20] <Speiros> Good work, tomreyn and others. Your help is appreciated.
[15:20] <JoeVannie> you too Speiros :)
[15:21] <samdragon> Ive tried adding rootdelay=30 to the grub command. when I use kernel 5.4.40 in Recovery Mode I seem to get farther in the boot process but it still fails to find the root partition
[15:23] <Speiros> Thanks JoeVannie. I hope something works.
[15:24] <xbfrog> i'm trying to connect a bluetooth keyboard to ubuntu 20.04. so far i cannot see any bluetooth adapter in my laptop listed. and settings says plug in dongle to use bluetooth. i have one now plugged in and it found the keyboard and says its paired but disconnected. i see no way to connect it
[15:25] <xbfrog> i also enabed trusted device
[15:26] <xbfrog> when i right click on bluetooth devices keyboard and click connect it says connection failed host is down
[15:27] <samdragon> does the boot-repair utility here https://askubuntu.com/questions/872171/ubuntu-gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-uuid-does-not-exist-dropping-to-shell cause any damage to the data on the drives themselves?
[15:29] <tomreyn> samdragon: it won't help you if the system is unable to see your internal HDD.
[15:29] <tomreyn> samdragon: let's double-check whether that is the case, though?
[15:29] <samdragon> sure
[15:29] <tomreyn> samdragon: can you boot to recovery?
[15:30] <samdragon> no. recovery or normal kernel options all eventualy hit the same error ALERT UUID=xxxxxxx does not exist, dropping to shell
[15:30] <samdragon> the 5.4.40 kernel seems to get the farthest though in recovery mode
[15:31] <samdragon> I am able to boot up a live USB
[15:31] <tomreyn> live usb also works for this test
[15:31] <samdragon> giggity
[15:32] <tomreyn> the shell it drops you to should work also, but lets do the live usb, this may be easier
[15:32] <tomreyn> see if you can get online from the live usb, then ping me.
[15:32] <samdragon> wifi is connected tomreyn
[15:33] <samdragon> i can pastebin outputs and such and then copy the link here
[15:33] <tomreyn> samdragon: right. please open a temrinal and run this:   sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:34] <tomreyn> it should return a http address you can post here
[15:34] <samdragon> termbin.com/11ez
[15:34] <tomreyn> alright, have a look at it, does this seem to list your internal HD?
[15:35] <samdragon> nope
[15:35] <samdragon> just the live USB
[15:35] <tomreyn> samdragon: is it possible that you made some changes on your 'bios' while you were trying to fix this, which now prevent the disk from being detected?
[15:36] <samdragon> the only thing I could think of is the Secure Boot, but Ive tried this with that enabled and disabled and hit it the same both times
[15:36] <samdragon> I can rerun through that test though. its currently enabled
[15:36] <tomreyn> an example would be setting SATA mode to RAID rather than AHCI
[15:36] <tomreyn> (you want AHCI)
[15:37] <samdragon> it's a NVME hd not sata
[15:37] <samdragon> but I dont think I messed with that
[15:37] <samdragon> let me reboot and check
[15:37] <tomreyn> ok, also tell us what the live usb runs
[15:37] <samdragon> what version you mean?
[15:37] <tomreyn> yes, is this ubuntu, and which version?
[15:38] <samdragon> yep, ubuntu 20.04, the live usb is the same one I used to originally install ubuntu onto this laptop a month ago
[15:38] <tomreyn> and what do you have installed on the nvme?
[15:38] <tomreyn> okay 20.04 as well
[15:38] <tomreyn> okay, check the bios configuration then
[15:39] <tomreyn> then boot the live usb again, then bring it online again, and then run this from a terminal:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:40] <samdragon> 20.04 all around. the laptop I have 5.4.42 and 5.4.40 installed from the origina setup, but I had installed 5.6.x to try to fix a wifi issue. I believe but am not certain that I was booted into that 5.6 kernel when the updates ran. it was just the popup for system updates and I was typing and so accidentally hit Enter while the modal was popped up
[15:40] <samdragon> so I wasnt necessarily trying to update the system. but I know I had to disable Secure Boot to load that 5.6 kernel since it wasnt signed
[15:42] <tomreyn> let's keep secure boot disabled for now then
[15:42] <tomreyn> while you're in the bios UI, also check to see whethe the nvme is listed there as a storage media
[15:43] <tomreyn> samdragon: ^
[15:43] <samdragon> ok I just tried disabling secure boot, and am retrying booting 5.4.40 in Recovery. same issue though
[15:44] <samdragon> I didnt see anything about the NVME
[15:44] <samdragon> gonna poweroff and check again. theres an Advanced bios thing that I cant remember how to access on this laptop that I know I had used
[15:45] <samdragon> well, I see HDD Model Name and serial number, an it mentions SSD. I see SATA Mode is Optane without RAID
[15:45] <samdragon> the UUID listed is not the same as the one that initramfs is complaining about. would those match?
[15:46] <samdragon> or be expected to match I should say
[15:46] <tomreyn> samdragon: probably not. does it say "UUID" on the bios?
[15:47] <samdragon> yea it does. and the Security tab does say HDD: NVMe SSF doesnt support HDD password
[15:47] <samdragon> SSD*
[15:47] <samdragon> NVMe SSD doesnt support HDD password *
[15:47] <tomreyn> ok
[15:48] <samdragon> bootmode is UEFI, Secure Boot is off
[15:48] <samdragon> and yea on the Info tab, there is a UUID listed. and that UUID does not match the one from the initramfs boot error message
[15:48] <tomreyn> that's expected not to match really
[15:49] <samdragon> ok
[15:49] <tomreyn> you said "SATA Mode is Optane without RAID" , what other options are there for this setting?
[15:50] <samdragon> I cant edit the Info tab, let me try to figure out the advanced bios thing for this laptop. one minute
[15:51] <tomreyn> did you say which laptop model this is?
[15:56] <samdragon> acer swift 5
[15:58] <tomreyn> samdragon: do you have a multi-boot setup with one or more other operating systems on this computer?
[15:58] <samdragon> I dont think I can edit that SATA thing. when I boot with the 5.4.40 kernel in Recovery, I can see it say something like found NVMe remapped drive or something like that
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> xbfrog: are you using stock gnome's BT or blueman?
[15:58] <samdragon> no, just linux
[15:59] <tomreyn> samdragon: okay, please get us a screen shot of this NVME remapped drive message
[15:59] <tomreyn> use a smartphone, upload to imgur.com, post url here
[16:00] <samdragon> it's just `ahci   XXXXXX Found 1 remapped NVMe devices.`
[16:00] <Belial> speaking of uploading to imgur, anyone know of a screenshot plugin or tool where i can upload straight to imgur or lensdump, etc?
[16:00] <samdragon> from `dmesg | grep -i nvme`
[16:00] <Belial> the ones that come with ubuntu don't seem to have the feature.
[16:01] <tomreyn> samdragon: please also ensure that "CSM" (compatibility support mode for legacy BIOS support) is disabled on the bios.
[16:02] <samdragon> oh, I did just find this `ahci XXXXX Switch your BIOD from RAID to AHCI to use them` that seems very promising. let me look into the bios more and get back.
[16:02] <samdragon> I didnt see CSM as a setting, I did see TSM I think was the acronym but letme reboot to check
[16:03] <compdoc> its a uefi compatibilty mode
[16:04] <samdragon> I do see TPM (TCM) state as Installed and Enabled
[16:04] <compdoc> I think thats a security feature, not related
[16:05] <tomreyn> TPM would be unrelated
[16:05] <tomreyn> "Switch your BIOS from RAID to AHCI" is what we discussed earlier
[16:05] <compdoc> ^
[16:05] <tomreyn> you said "I see SATA Mode is Optane without RAID"
[16:05] <samdragon> er mer gersh
[16:06] <samdragon> that fixed it.
[16:06] <samdragon> thanks Tom!
[16:06] <tomreyn> what is "that"?
[16:06] <samdragon> switching the SATA mode from Optane without RAID to AHCI
[16:07] <tomreyn> i see. so you're able to boot normally now?
[16:07] <samdragon> I had to hit ctl + S while in the BIOS to get the extra option
[16:07] <compdoc> heh
[16:07] <samdragon> but switching that to AHCI and trying 5.4.40 Recovery worked :)
[16:07] <tomreyn> to access the security menu, i guess?
[16:08] <samdragon> not even the security tab, just a single extra line item option in the Main tab
[16:08] <tomreyn> crazy
[16:08] <samdragon> because why not hide things behind specific unique key sequences
[16:08] <tomreyn> i wonder how this got set initially though
[16:09] <samdragon> I had set it to AHCI I think when I was first setting this computer up. it seems like the updates reset it?
[16:09] <tomreyn> maybe the updates involved a bios upgrade, if so, this may be so.
[16:10] <samdragon> ugh that was frustrating, but thank you so much!
[16:10] <tomreyn> take notes on what you did, if this as triggered by a bios update you'll likely need to do this again in a few months.
[16:11] <Kon> If my Bionic and Focal systems already have shim-signed installed and are all UEFI/GPT installations, can I just switch Secure Boot on in my EFI/BIOS without having to do anything else system-side? I see this is a related conversation
[16:11] <samdragon> yes, great advice
[16:11] <samdragon> its tough if my setup notes are on the harddrive i cant access tho hahah
[16:12] <tomreyn> there's this new gadget they're selling called 'pen + paper'
[16:12] <Speiros> LOL
[16:14]  * WaltS48 keeps a notepad and pen nearby
[16:16] <tomreyn> Kon: you can just try and see what happens, i'd say. :) make sure oyu don't have out of tree kernel modules or that they're seperately signed and the signature is imported.
[16:16] <tomreyn> err the signing key is imported.
[16:18] <Kon> Ah thanks, didn't consider modules
[16:26] <lalitmee> Hey Guys, I updated my Ubuntu 18.04 to 20.04 recently and now when I try to update my packages I see that only some of the apt-repositories are enabled. Why this is happening and can I enable all those repositories which were enabled before upgrading to 20.04
[16:27] <tomreyn> lalitmee: the upgrade process automatically disables all but the default apt repositories. you can re-enable those you need, but edit them to point to "focal", not "bionic"
[16:28] <oerheks> lalitmee, check them for focal packages, if those repos come from launchpad
[16:28] <lalitmee> tomreyn: yeah that's what I was thinking that I may need to edit those
[16:28] <tomreyn> lalitmee: note that some of them may not provide packages for focal (20.04), though, as you'll see when you run    sudo apt update    afterwards
[16:28] <oerheks> basicly no, unless..
[16:28] <lalitmee> oerheks: let me check
[16:36] <KyleKVK> Hi, I recently added a PPA (Nvidia Graphics Drivers) and did sudo apt-get update to make sure it gets put on the sources list. When I do an upgrade and install though, the latest version of the graphics drivers don't get installed.
[16:37] <KyleKVK> I don't know why, there are updates available if I look on launchpad and if I check my version I can see it's out of date
[16:38] <tomreyn> show what you're seeing, on https://paste.ubuntu.com (for text) or on imgur.com (for graphics), posting the urls here
[16:38] <oerheks> try a full-upgrade ..? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> ah nice, 450 seems to be on there
[16:40] <KyleKVK> Here you go: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hsyHyGwnCq/
[16:40] <KyleKVK> Yes, 450 is what I'm trying to upgrade to, but I can't "see" it when I go to upgrade. I'm currently running 440.100
[16:41] <tomreyn> how about    software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[16:42] <KyleKVK> Oops, that's not installed, this is Ubuntu Server 20.04.01
[16:43] <KyleKVK> nvidia-smi shows 440.100
[16:43] <tomreyn> use "ubuntu-drivers" CLI then
[16:45] <KyleKVK> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3gdrTSHf65/
[16:45] <KyleKVK> Is that my answer? That 450-server doesn't exist yet?
[16:46] <tomreyn> !info linux-modules-nvidia-440-server-generic-hwe-20.04
[16:46] <tomreyn> !info linux-modules-nvidia-450-server-generic-hwe-20.04
[16:46] <tomreyn> looks like it
[16:46] <KyleKVK> oh, ok. that's fine then
[16:47] <KyleKVK> But now I'm curious why I can't see that here: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal
[16:47] <KyleKVK> There's no separation for desktop and server there, which is why I was initially confused
[16:49] <tomreyn> there's nvidia-headless-450_450.57-0ubuntu0~<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb in the PPA
[16:50] <KyleKVK> I guess my question then is how come that doesn't get picked up by apt?
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: can you provide us the output of apt when you try to install 450?
[16:51] <tomreyn> apt only considers updates to packages you already have installed.
[16:51] <KyleKVK> lotuspsychje: I haven't tried doing it manually yet
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: didnt you say the latest drivers didnt get installed in your first question?
[16:52] <KyleKVK> tomreyn: so because there isn't a version specifically to server (as opposed to headless, etc), then it's not going to find any because it's not in there yet?
[16:53] <KyleKVK> lotuspsychje: I may have. Sorry for being unclear. What I mean is that there are new drivers and they haven't been installed via apt, I didn't try it manually
[16:53] <KyleKVK> But now I see why that is
[16:53] <tomreyn> KyleKVK: you usually have 'tracking' / meta packages which dep0ends on other packages and thus have apt install those other packages on updates, or you install packages manually.
[16:54] <tomreyn> KyleKVK: i don't know whether the -headless package is a 1-to-1 replacement for the packages you have installed for 440 now.
[16:54] <tomreyn> i'm also not too much into nvidia in general, and prefer to stand back. ;-)
[16:56] <KyleKVK> tomreyn: Yeah I don't know either, if I look at the 440 package I don't see -server but I do see headless. I'm just being careful since I just upgraded and it's the only packages I've added via PPA so I wanted to make sure I did it right
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: you could apt policy that headless package to see if you have it installed currently
[16:57] <KyleKVK> Sorry, how? I've never done that
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: apt policy nvidia-headless-440
[16:58] <KyleKVK> Installed: (none)
[16:59] <KyleKVK> Guess they are different then!
[16:59] <KyleKVK> Ok, so then I just have to wait, thank you!
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: so if you dont have that installed on 440, i guess you could try 450 manual too as a test
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> KyleKVK: wich chipset do you have, and whats going to be the purpose of your server/graphics ?
[17:06] <oerheks> why nvidia drivers on a server?
[17:12] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: maybe he's going to do some mining :p
[17:19] <FaTaL_G> sometimes when my ubuntu box starts up, the bridge does not come up correctly, and I have isc-dhcp-server bound to br0. When this happens, dhcp fails to start. Can I delay it, or make it depend on br0, or even make it come up even if br0 doesn't?
[17:19] <jhunhong> test
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> FaTaL_G: try #ubuntu-server maybe
[17:57] <robertparkerx> I think my vsftp doesn't have utf8 encoding because characters display wierd when I use it but are fine when I am in httpd/ssh/etc
[17:57] <robertparkerx> how can I enable it ?
[17:57] <oerheks> what guide did you follow, and on what ubuntu version?
[17:59] <robertparkerx> 18.04.4
[17:59] <robertparkerx> I cannot remember the guide I'm sorry
[17:59] <robertparkerx> I just noticed this yesterday
[17:59] <robertparkerx> I've been running it fine for months
[18:01] <oerheks> anything weird in your vsftpd.conf? paste.ubuntu.com
[18:03] <robertparkerx> should I be using #utf8_filesystem=YES
[18:03] <robertparkerx> I just saw this
[18:04] <oerheks> yes.
[18:06] <robertparkerx> that didn't make a difference
[18:06] <robertparkerx> let me try to paste the conf
[18:06] <oerheks> did you restart the service?
[18:07] <robertparkerx> yes
[18:07] <robertparkerx> systemctl restart vsftpd
[18:07] <oerheks> i hope there is no ntfs involved..
[18:08] <robertparkerx> none
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: was your fstab showing utf ? mounted correctly?
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> robertparkerx: like, /dev/sda1  /ftpserver/Data  vfat   rw,exec,utf8,umask=0000    0    0
[18:09] <robertparkerx> lotuspsychje how can I check? I think it should be because ssh and other services are showing the characters right
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !fstab
[18:10] <robertparkerx> okay well the mounted drive does not
[18:10] <robertparkerx> my normal drive does
[18:10] <robertparkerx> ./dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0HC_Volume_4264023 /mnt/HC_Volume_4264023 ext4 discard,nofail,defaults 0 0
[18:11] <robertparkerx> ./dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[18:12] <robertparkerx> that's probably why then huh
[18:12] <robertparkerx> it's trying to use a filesystem not present
[18:14] <robertparkerx> lotuspsychje how do I add it ?
[18:37] <TheWild> hello
[18:37] <luna_> hi
[18:38] <TheWild> unattended-upgrade when there is not enough space on a disk. What will happen? Will it break the system?
[18:40] <zentos> hi
[18:40] <zentos> i have my home server ubuntu sere
[18:40] <zentos> server
[18:40] <zentos> ,but i cant connect ssh 22 port
[18:40] <zentos> from windows
[18:41] <zentos> i try that http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/enable-ssh-ubuntu-16-04-lts/
[18:41] <oerheks> TheWild, it will error out.
[18:50] <FaTaL_G> maybe this is easy... it should be... but vi default colorscheme is the worst (not an opinion)... so I'd like to change the defaults default. Maybe I just overwrite the default.vim. When I put the scheme in my .vimrc, it only works on my non sudo actions. How can I make it this way for all users.
[19:04] <tomreyn> zentos: run this on the server itself:     nc -vz <IP_ADDRESS> 22
[19:04] <tomreyn> does it report     Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> 22 port [tcp/ssh] succeeded!      ?
[19:04] <zentos> hm
[19:11] <tomreyn> hmhm
[19:24] <kline> hello, does ubuntu have backports in the package index such as here? https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/tor
[19:25] <kline> im mainly asking because tor 0.3.2 hidden services will break in about a year
[19:25] <PeGaSuS> help! my system booted directly to some sort of "command line" with (initramfs) at the beginning of the line, complaining about a file system with errors :/
[19:25] <kline> so unless there is a backport of >=0.3.5, tor on ubuntu will not be able to access any hidden services
[19:26] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: hasn't died since yesterday morning. Even though it was not in the logs between my last reboot and most recent, (I didn;t think it mattered, but might have), was I removed pf_ring, which was telling me the version was tainting the kernel. Could it be related?
[19:26] <pavlos> zentos: netstat -plant | grep :22   ... do you see 2 lines LISTEN to that port?
[19:27] <zentos> ok :)
[19:27] <PeGaSuS> I guess my HDD went to the pigs. :/
[19:28] <kline> PeGaSuS: you can try fsck etc, or whatever tools are provided for your filesystem
[19:29] <pavlos> PeGaSuS: you could fix errors and reboot, at that command line you could type, fsck -y /dev/sda1 (if sda1 is your disk)
[19:33] <PeGaSuS> yay! the fsck -y /dev/sda1 seems to have worked
[19:34] <kline> PeGaSuS: you have backups, right?
[19:34] <PeGaSuS> thanks kline & pavlos
[19:34] <PeGaSuS> kline: fortunately, all my "important" files are on an external disk
[19:35] <kline> im reading between the lines here to understand that as "no, nothing is backed up, but thankfully it was a different drive that failed"
[19:35] <kline> so let this be your warning shot
[19:35] <kline> external drives tend to fail more frequently
[19:36] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: yes, that's possible, and why i pointed out tainting.
[19:37] <PeGaSuS> kline: I don't have a system backup. I just backup important files/folders
[19:38] <oerheks> kline, we suggest to use the original packages
[19:38] <oerheks> !tor
[19:42] <kline> oerheks: ok, that sounds reasonable. the real reason im chasing this down is that freenode has deprecated our v2 hidden service in line with the upcoming upstream deprecation. the old address is still reproduced in ubuntus docs and it would be ideal to start removing it, other than the current bionic version being very old
[19:42] <kline> ( https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/irssi#pre-requis2 )
[19:43] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: hmm, i'm not sure i pointed out that the kernel was tainted, i had meant to do so (but don'T see it on my logs). you should be aware of this possible impact when you choose to use external modules, though. and please point it out on your own when seeking support.
[19:45] <oerheks> kline, not sure who to talk to in #ubuntu-fr, our wiki does not show that hexnumber https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tor
[19:46] <kline> yeah, im sitting there but id just rather have this policy question cleared up in english first
[19:46] <oerheks> i agree that tor package should be wiped, like tons of others like xchat.
[19:46] <kline> thanks for your help in understanding the situation
[19:46] <oerheks> yw
[19:47] <Atlenohen> Hello
[19:47] <Atlenohen> I'm using kubuntu and I can't find where to create Wifi Hotspot in GUI, is it possible at all?
[19:54] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: i'm not really into kubuntu, but i think it uses network.manager as well, so, as long as you have a wireless chipset and drivers which support this mode, yes, should be possible to setup on the GUI.
[19:55] <chief-monk> Hello All I am very new here and wanted to know support wise.  What can I ask here?
[19:55] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: you may need to use nm-connection-manager if it's not an option available from the kde settings / system manager application (i'm not sure what it's called exactly)
[19:56] <tomreyn> chief-monk: type this: /topic
[19:56] <chief-monk> topic
[19:56] <tomreyn> with the leading slash
[19:57] <tomreyn> !support | chief-monk
[19:58] <Atlenohen> Tomreyn: all i see is Connections - System Settings module, nowhere is any mention of Hotspot or AP mode
[19:58] <Atlenohen> This makes the outbound connections so it assumes you're going to be a client.
[19:59] <Atlenohen> It's 19 not 20 tho.
[19:59] <chief-monk> ubottu: So I am in the right place to ask a tech question about like 16.04 for example?
[20:00] <Atlenohen> Tomreyn: thing is, I have no experience with base ubuntu either
[20:00] <Atlenohen> nm-connection-manager command not found.
[20:00] <chief-monk> ubottu not human?
[20:01] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: I had already removed the tainted module, so you didn't see it in the logs. and I had not yet rebooted. After it locked up yesterday morning, (for which those logs you did see), I rebooted. I had forgotton that I didn't reboot after removing pf_ring. So you think that could have been the cause?
[20:01] <oerheks> 16.04 is still supported, but we advice to upgrade
[20:01] <joaquinito01> i want ubottu in my channel
[20:01] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: I was running the official nbox/ntop setup, and the official pf_ring. Now those are all removed
[20:02] <joaquinito01> i want ubottu in my channel
[20:02] <oerheks> joaquinito01, no.
[20:02] <chief-monk> I have a very old one for personal ond have current on new computer
[20:03] <rory> After installing Ubuntu MATE from the 20.04.1 iso and selecting UK English during installation, I can't see any way to select the UK keyboard input https://i.imgur.com/Gma0BG4.png
[20:03] <jess> joaquinito01: stop it
[20:03] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: dorry, it's nm-connection-editor
[20:03] <rory> Everything else is in the list except English UK (not Dvorak)
[20:04] <tomreyn> *sorry
[20:04] <rory> Do I need to install a package?
[20:04] <tomreyn> chief-monk: yes you're in the right place to ask questions about supported ubuntu releases (the ones supported are listed in the /topic)
[20:04] <rory> or is "extended winkeys" the new normal?
[20:05] <Atlenohen> tomreyn: either GUI is broken or what, when I disconnect wired ethernet, wifi stops working
[20:05] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: sounds like a plausible cause to me.
[20:05] <Atlenohen> the connections panel doesn't show any available wireless APs
[20:06] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: you should be able to add one, though
[20:08] <Atlenohen> tomreyn: What do you mean? It worked before, why would I need to manually know the SSID and the details, it's suppose to automatically scan for networks in the air.
[20:08] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: do you have this screen? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963847/missing-network-settings-in-kde
[20:08] <Atlenohen> It's not scanning now.
[20:09] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: i do not know why your wifi stops working when you disconnect wired ethernet.
[20:09] <Atlenohen> I connected to wireless some time earlier, I turned Kubuntu up today, I'm 99.9% wired with ethernet.
[20:09] <Atlenohen> Earlier I deleted my old wireless connections, I was not connected to any AP today.
[20:09] <chief-monk> oerheks: I use Ubuntu Studio 20.04 for work and the 16.04 on the old computer is just play for now.  I had a major issue late last month and been trying to figure out about the boot.
[20:10] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: "scanning" is what you do when you want to connect to an existing access point, in client mode. you asked about setting up an access point yourself. scanning is not something you'd need to do there.
[20:11] <Atlenohen> I saw my neighbour's WiFi show up on the Networks Panel that shows up when you click the taskbar icon. When I disconnected Wired Ethernet Cable out of the Motherboard socket, I could not see neighbours Wifi either, even tho I did nothing to the Wifi USB card.
[20:11] <Atlenohen> To me that sounds like a bug, what does Ethernet cable have to do with Wifi.
[20:12] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: yes, that's unexpected.
[20:12] <Atlenohen> Sorry, I wasn't talking about setting up my Wifi in AP Mode right now, just about this side effect.
[20:12] <rory> Can you reproduce it consistently? If you disable and re-enable networking then the wifi networks should reappear
[20:12] <Atlenohen> Back to the AP Mode ... I spent 30 minutes searching around the settings and I can't find anything.
[20:13] <rory> nvm I joined this discussion halfway through.
 Atlenohen: do you have this screen? https://askubuntu.com/questions/963847/missing-network-settings-in-kde
[20:13] <Atlenohen> Even tho I used to do this regularly on Linux Mint Cinnamon/Mate which I used the most, for 5 years, but I'm not a linux expert at all.
[20:14] <Atlenohen> Yes, I said yes earlier.
[20:14] <Atlenohen> That's the only screen for Network stuff I found.
[20:14] <Atlenohen> Aaah
[20:14] <Atlenohen> wait
[20:14] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: i did not see you answer "yes" to this.  do you see the "+" icon on the bottom left?
[20:15] <Atlenohen> No yes I figure now
[20:15] <Atlenohen> I did click the plus but I forgot this is burried in "MODE" Infrastructure, Access Point
[20:15] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn (and shibboleth), then II apologize for not mentioning it. There definitely were not any kernel panics, or anyhting to identify the cause, and it slipped my mind :(  I removed it and forgot to reboot. If it doesn't freeze up over the week I think it is solved for me. But I don't have any data to share with the developers of pfring besides the kernel taint message from a few days ago.
[20:15] <FaTaL_G> *maybe thats enough
[20:16] <Atlenohen> tomreyn: Thanks for leading me to the solution :)
[20:16] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: certainly won't be enough, but you'll need to work with them to debug this, this software is not part of ubuntu for all i could tell
[20:17] <tomreyn> FaTaL_G: i also pointed you to ubuntu documentation on debugging kernel related problems yesterday, maybe take a look at it.
[20:17] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: you're welcome
[20:19] <FaTaL_G> tomreyn: I did. I have to setup another box to collect the data, so wont happen soon
[20:20] <Atlenohen> tomreyn: Well I created it, but there's no button or anything to connect/enable it?
[20:22] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: i'm not sure how this is done on kde/plasma. it may be best to ask in #kubuntu for kubuntu specific support.
[20:22] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: on default ubuntu you'd have the network manager icon on the panel in the top right corner of the screen, where you can activate the connection.
[20:23] <oerheks> maybe adding those/that package, needs a restart of networking or a reboot?
[20:23] <Atlenohen> This is bad design lol
[20:24] <oerheks> no, changing a service and restarting it, is not bad
[20:24] <oerheks> "lol"
[20:25] <Atlenohen> I did not install anything
[20:25] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: you may need to install package    plasma-nm    if it's not already installed
[20:25] <Atlenohen> I think I used the full plasma with everything, but we'll see.
[20:25] <tomreyn> that's based on the post i poiinted to earlier, but then i don't even know which kubuntu version you're on
[20:25] <Atlenohen> It's 19
[20:25] <Atlenohen> not the latest 20 LTS
[20:26] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | Atlenohen
[20:26] <chief-monk> oerheks: or any one else. Please PM me if you think you can assist me with a 16.06 boot issue that took my hard drive and turned it into a Media drive and all permissions denied !  When do a live boot can see everything in tack and in the proper place.  When I boot up from hard drive it sends me into recovery mode and does its thing and frees at a line of code This computer never backed up cause it would not.  I have firefox
[20:26] <chief-monk> and vivaldi bookmarks and saved passwords is what I need.  It has the early days of my work on there too. After all said and done is there anyone here that can assist me? brb
[20:26] <Atlenohen> Sure, there's no other 19. other than the one before 20.04
[20:28] <oerheks> chief-monk, boot the 16.04 iso, and do a fsck?
[20:28] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1127219/how-to-fix-a-corrupt-ubuntu-16-04
[20:28] <oerheks> !19.10
[20:28] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: there were (k)ubuntu 19.04 and (k)ubuntu 19.10
[20:28] <oerheks> is EOL, dead jim
[20:30] <Atlenohen> Allright, pfft, now 2 connections showed up in the taskbar panel, this is really weird, it's treating the AP as a "Connection", this should have been completely separate, ... so now I'm "connected to my own AP" ... which means it's just enabled
[20:31] <Atlenohen> But it says "unavailable IP configuration" so it disconnected ..err disabled it
[20:31] <oerheks> to be an AP, one needs wired or 2nd wifi networking.
[20:31] <Atlenohen> I never used wired when I did AP on Linux Mint
[20:31] <oerheks> but i stop here, 19.10 support is useless, that machine should not be connected to the internets
[20:31] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: don't waste your time trying to configure the access point before you upgrade to a supported release.
[20:32] <Atlenohen> The point is, I want to setup AP without internet access, I used to do dummy APs all the time, but I do have a Wired connection now with my router, still won't work. Or I didn't configure the AP properly.
[20:33] <oerheks> interesting ..
[20:36] <Atlenohen> But yeah, I actually used to do this via terminal
[20:37] <Atlenohen> The whole Network Connections settings window acts as a client connecting to, not as someone who creates a server. the AP needs to create a DHCP server.
[20:38] <Atlenohen> But it's totally not obvious how to set this up. I disabled IPV6 and IPV4 and now it does work on the Computer side, it activates the AP; but no clients can connect.
[20:38] <oerheks> Atlenohen, it will .. in 20.04
[20:38] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: do you have a support question about a supported ubuntu release?
[20:39] <Atlenohen> People told me that in-place-upgrade is risky, I wanted to do it, but I would need to backup /Home and a few tweaks I did ... and I think I have to update it 100% before doing the upgrade.
[20:39] <Atlenohen> I would rather just reinstall clean.
[20:40] <Atlenohen> I set it up a few days 20.04 was released, facepalm, otherwise I would have waited.
[20:41] <mikjaer> I am running 20.04.1 LTS and for some reaons "netplan apply" gives me this error message: Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of netplan-wpa-wlp3s0.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units.
[20:41] <oerheks> "People told me that in-place-upgrade is risky" .. people tell you here to upgrade. no backups altready? then your data is not important
[20:41] <mikjaer> i tried issuing the command it asks me to, it changes nothing and the changes are not beeing applied
[20:41] <Atlenohen> Okay, I'll reinstall Kubuntu 20
[20:42] <Atlenohen> later
[20:42] <mikjaer> but when i reboot the system the changes gets applied
[20:43] <tomreyn> mikjaer: so did you re-run "sudo netplan apply" after running "sudo systemctl daemon-reload"?
[20:44] <mikjaer> tomreyn: ofcourse i did, how else would i know that it didn't change ?
[20:45] <tomreyn> mikjaer: the way you phrased it above it could have been that you expected the "sudo systemctl daemon-reload" command to apply the changes you made to the netplan configuration.
[20:45] <tomreyn> i just wanted to rule this out.
[20:46] <mikjaer> Do you know what the error message means?
[20:47] <mikjaer> i found a bug repport about it, and it seems to have been fixed in the latest version
[20:47] <mikjaer> so i updated my system, but didn't change either
[20:47] <tomreyn> which bug report did you find?
[20:48] <chief-monk> Oerheks:  done fsck did not like that at all
[20:50] <tomreyn> chief-monk: keep in mind that no one here can watch over your shoulder - you need to provide details, exact commands you ran, exact error messages, what you did exactly.
[20:50] <noproto> hey. i'm looking to mirror my first drive in rpool for zfs on ubuntu 20.04. do i need to format or partition anything on the second drive besides adding a partition table?
[20:50] <chief-monk> Oerheks there is a repair software and have not found it yet
[20:51] <noproto> (i added a GPT)
[21:03] <Atlenohen> I searched ".iso" in linux ... finds everything but .iso files, wow, we're gonna beat MSFT real soon!!!!
[21:04] <Atlenohen> And there is no option to search for file extension, wow, the power of open source baby!
[21:05] <tomreyn> !discuss | Atlenohen
[21:05] <noproto> Atlenohen: find / -name \*.iso
[21:05] <noproto> that was difficult
[21:06] <chief-monk> Tomreyn:  I woke up one morning and accidentally touch keyboard while in sleep mode.  Night before it was fine.  Try to reboot and showed me a purple screen with 3 options.  1 re-install lose every thing 2 reinstal do not bother personal files I did not know if that meant data from programs 3 recovery mode repair.  I choose repair while Bing search see what I can find.  When it went into recovery mode follow directions to
[21:06] <chief-monk> get to the repair software it has a wrench and nut as a logo.  On terminal following Linux and Ubuntu sites doing research how to fix it and every time it comes to that one place to put into terminal put line of code it goes through and in 10 minutes stops at one line and left it that way for 10 plus hours and still nothing.      Would you like me to shut it down and run from hard drive and type in every place it stops?
[21:06] <Atlenohen> Dolphin File Explorer ... but this kind of experience is sometimes across the board in the linux ecosystem.
[21:06] <Atlenohen> Stuff you think would be obvious for 20 years ... just missing.
[21:08] <Atlenohen> Thanks tho!
[21:08] <noproto> Atlenohen: the power of open source means you can add it too
[21:09] <Atlenohen> I'm not that exeperienced with terminal, I kinda forgot, I wasn't around linux for 2-3 years, but I got a secondary PC and will have it installed on disk now again for good, so I should get back up to speed.
[21:10] <chief-monk> Tomreyn:  turn all data on drive into a media volume
[21:11] <tomreyn> chief-monk: you could take a screen shot of where the system gets stuck when you try to boot it normally, post that on imgur.com and post the http address of it here
[21:11] <Atlenohen> noproto: eeehehehe, amazing ... the whole terminal is now full of find: '/proc/23298/task/23292/fdinfo' permission denied ... so I can't see any hits
[21:11] <tomreyn> chief-monk: what do you mean by "turn all data on drive into a media volume"?
[21:12] <noproto> Atlenohen: / was a path that you can specify..
[21:13] <chief-monk> Tomreyn That is great I will  show all so you see what I do
[21:13] <Atlenohen> Oh, yah, a person kinda expects only to see when a hit is found, not when a non-hit is found ... the permission denied things should be -verbose IMO
[21:13] <tomreyn> chief-monk: actually, i have to head to bed now, but there are others here who can help - try summing it all up with your ubuntu version concisely on the pastebin, and ask again, adding your scree shots.
[21:14] <Atlenohen> Now i have to figure out the path of the drive, sloooowly ... man linux is so speed at multitasking, windows is light years behind!
[21:14] <noproto> i have a dedicated file for that kind of very useful feedback on my PC Atlenohen
[21:15] <noproto> troll somewhere else
[21:15] <chief-monk> tomreyn: thanks and good night
[21:15] <tomreyn> thanks, hope you can make progress here, chief-monk
[21:15] <Atlenohen> Seriously, I'm not hating linux at all, but it's unfortunate how biased the coporations are that spend most of their core devs into stuff that only matters for them, and the stuff that suppose to be used by wider audience is left behind.
[21:16] <rory> I like the "locate" command
[21:16] <oerheks> which locate
[21:16] <rory> the one where you have to run "updatedb" first
[21:16] <tomreyn> Atlenohen: please stay on topic, support Q&A for supported ubuntu releases here. you are welcome to have your opinions, and to chat about them in the suitable channels, but this one is not.
[21:17] <pavlos> I think it's in the mlocate pkg
[21:18] <Atlenohen> Linus Father doesn't help either, did he even bother trying to replicate the basic usage of linux to see how it's going, caretaking the kernel is only one part of the whole thing ... who cares about the kernel if you can't even do basics without spending 30 minutes learning commands.
[21:18] <Atlenohen> Okay sorry, that's all I wanted to say.
[21:19] <rory> Good.
[21:19] <noproto> ^
[21:19] <Atlenohen> And don't get me wrong, I took the time right now to do an upgrade, It's not like I'm inpatient, but I'd like to be over with it in 3 hours so it doesn't drag into the night, that's a valid reason.
[21:19] <oerheks> Atlenohen, don't push it.
[21:19] <rory> I find "locate" to be nicer when I just want to find a file I know the name of but not sure where it is
[21:20] <rory> but "updatedb" takes just as long as "find" would. So it's not really any faster overall.
[21:21] <rory> Atlenohen, FWIW the concept of "file extention" has no real meaning (on Linux), it's just a convention. So to search for all .jpg files you really just need to search for files named "*.jpg"
[21:21] <rory> not sure exactly how Dolphin handles wildcards.
[21:45] <robertparkerx> how do I enable utf8 encoding on a mounted drive? I'm using vsftp and I notice that when I'm using ftp the file names were incorrect but ssh/etc is normal
[21:45] <robertparkerx> I enabled utf8 file system in vsftpd
[21:45] <robertparkerx> I restarted but no difference
[21:46] <blahboybaz> I'm wanting to install the latest mysql on my system but when I try to download from oracle they want me to sign up for an account. That would be fine except they want every dam peice of information that exists on me in order to do so (I think I even saw a field for blood type - and it was a required feild too). There has to be some better way to get the latest workbench version without giving them one of my kidneys to get it -
[21:46] <blahboybaz> isn't there?
[21:46] <blahboybaz> Does anyone know of a repository (other than the default repository that comes with 18.04)?
[21:48] <oerheks> nop,e only 5.7 is available for 18.04 upgrade to focal if you want 8 >> https://launchpad.net/mysql-server/+packages
[21:49] <oerheks> not sure why you need to register, see this tutor; https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-latest-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04 ,... but without our support, not updates.
[21:50] <blahboybaz> thanks I'll look at that
[21:51] <blahboybaz> btw what is focal? another linux distro?
[21:51] <oerheks> !foxal
[21:51] <oerheks> !focal
[21:51] <blahboybaz> ohh
[21:51] <blahboybaz> cool, thanks
[21:53] <blahboybaz> oerheks: I see what happened. I'm not asking about mysql, I'm asking about mysql workbench (the gui tool for mysql which is also from oracle)
[21:54] <oerheks> oke, no clue about that
[21:54] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/mysql-workbench/+packages
[21:55] <blahboybaz> This article: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-mysql-on-ubuntu-18-04  shows a command: $ wget -c https://dev.mysql.com/get/mysql-apt-config_0.8.11-1_all.deb   <--   is that safe?
[21:56] <oerheks> blahboybaz, yes, but we don't support issues with that.
[21:56] <oerheks> and 8.11 is pretty old
[21:56] <oerheks> .. go figure
[21:57] <blahboybaz> ok
[21:58] <robertparkerx> https://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/103909/ftp-server-utf-8-characters-are-not-shown-neither-remote-nor-direct -- had a similar problem and just mounted with utf8
[21:58] <robertparkerx> can I do that without destroying data
[21:59] <oerheks> re mounting does not destroy date
[21:59] <oerheks> c/data
[21:59] <oerheks> what filesystem is on that ext drive?
[21:59] <oerheks> this sounds so ntfs :-D
[22:01] <robertparkerx> ext4
[22:02] <joaquinito01> can i have ubottu in my channel?
[22:03] <Bashing-om> !ubottu | joaquinito01
[22:03] <oerheks> stop trollin joaquinito01
[22:04] <joaquinito01> !botclone
[22:06] <robertparkerx> oerheks it's not ntfs it is ext4
[22:19] <robertparkerx> do I just edit fstab ?
[22:19] <robertparkerx> sudo nano -Bw /etc/fstab
[22:20] <zentos> I installed cyberpanel on my computer but I cannot use internet
[22:20] <zentos> its normak ?
[22:23] <Atlenohen> Hello
[22:24] <Atlenohen> Is backuping all the .folders and .files in Home/user enough to save most of my relatively small data ?
[22:24] <Atlenohen> Or do I have to look in root too ?
[22:24] <zentos> yes
[22:25] <Atlenohen> There's a few custom tweaks I did, which I kinda forgot now but doesn't matter I'm to bothered, I'll figure it out once I reinstall again
[22:25] <Atlenohen> Unless there's a quick way to just pull out all of non-default custom things I've done to the system,
[22:28] <akk> Does Ubuntu have a backports system like Debian? I'm running focal, looking for meson 0.54, not finding anything about backports with a web search.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> akk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports  .
[22:34] <akk> Bashing-om: thanks!
[22:35] <akk> Looks like hardly anything there for focal, but at least I know where to request it.
[22:35] <Bashing-om> akk: Maybe my dumbness, but I did not find meson either in backports :(
[22:36] <akk> Looks like there are only two things there: cockpit (broken into many different subpackages) and ibus-typing-booster.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> akk: What do you need meson 0.54 for? Is using pip3 rather than the Ubuntu repositories acceptable to you?
[22:45] <akk> Jordan_U: GIMP's build requires it. Ah, I hadn't even realized meson was python! Yes, pip3 would be fine.
[22:45] <akk> I'll do it that way, thanks for the suggestion!
[22:46] <oerheks> latest gimp https://snapcraft.io/gimp
[22:46] <akk> oerheks: I'm mildly involved in gimp development, keep wanting to get more involved except every time I do, something in the build changes and I can't build it for a while.
[22:47] <akk> Want to help with the python 2-3 port on git master.
[23:10] <blahboybaz> Is it possible for someone to hack my webcam / possibly mic too on ubuntu 18.04?
[23:10] <blahboybaz> Someone is making comments in a chat (an other chat) that are too personal and alarming - like what the shirt I'm wearing says
[23:15] <truexfan81> /ignore
[23:23] <blahboybaz> truexfan81: thanks
[23:23] <blahboybaz> But is there a way someone could see me through my webcam without my permission?
[23:24] <blahboybaz> its ALARMING
[23:42] <akk> blahboybaz: In theory no, but in practice, lots of experts tape something opaque over their camera.
[23:44] <guiverc> blahboybaz, possibly if they've tricked you, or you've added a maliocus extension into a browser (eg. chrome) and given that browser access to your camera... chrome & like browsers are rather similiar to other OSes (ie. weaknesses in windows may apply here too)
[23:47]  * akk was very happy that her new laptop came with a built-in slide cover for the camera. The mic is still a risk, though.
[23:58] <biggtimber> did and update recently on 20.04, and now my user isn't showing up in settings. I can login with it by doing 'not listed just fine.


[11:42] <thorwil> godbyk: happy new year
[11:42] <thorwil> godbyk: seems we need a new naming convention for the titlepage files
[11:44] <thorwil> what would have been lulu-nl.svg could be wrap-nl.svg if we wanted it to be generic
[11:45] <thorwil> but with measurements dependent on the service, createspace-nl.svg might avoid surprises further down the road
[12:10] <thorwil> godbyk: assuming the vertical bleed is the diff between a4 height and cover size, i only need the spine width now
[20:22] <godbyk> thorwil: Should we name them something generic like 'cover-LANG.svg'?
[20:22] <godbyk> Let me get the spine width for you.
[20:24] <godbyk> thorwil: The spine width should be 24.159456 pt (0.335548 in).  (Gotta love those nice round numbers!)
[20:24] <thorwil> godbyk: right now with an old lulu and a new createspace cover in one and the same dir, i don't feel well about a generic name
[20:24] <godbyk> thorwil: We can ditch the lulu covers I think.
[20:24] <thorwil> btw, we could drop the "titlepage-" for all the single side files
[20:25] <godbyk> thorwil: True, though it might make it easier to know if the svg is a title page or cover if we leave it.
[20:25] <thorwil> godbyk: what's with lulu-en_US, then?
[20:25] <godbyk> thorwil: It doesn't matter too much to me. I just type the names once in the LaTeX script and never think about it again. You're the one who has to edit them all the time. :-)
[20:26] <godbyk> thorwil: I didn't remove any of the lulu covers, but we can remove them/rename them if you like.
[20:26] <godbyk> thorwil: Since lulu.com is having trouble printing our books, I'm going to be publishing any new ones through CreateSpace.
[20:27] <thorwil> godbyk: lulu-en_US of 12-04_precise-e2 is not currently in print?
[20:28] <godbyk> thorwil: Correct. precise-e2 edition is allegedly available through lulu.com, but if it's not I'll migrate it to CreateSpace.
[20:28] <thorwil> godbyk: easiest to rename and edit the lulu file, then. don't delete it
[20:28] <godbyk> For 12.10, I used your lulu cover at the CreateSpace site and it worked okay. They said they scaled it, but I'm not sure why.. the numbers appeared to align when I did the math.
[20:28] <godbyk> The printed copy of 12.10  from CreateSpace looks fine, though.
[20:29] <godbyk> thorwil: Okay. I'll leave that up to you.
[20:29] <thorwil> 12.10 – how come i don't even have thta branch checked out
[20:29] <thorwil> that, even
[20:30] <thorwil> godbyk: how about calling the files with "single-" and "double-"?
[20:31] <godbyk> thorwil: I'm okay with that. Whatever makes the most sense to you is fine with me. :)
[20:33] <thorwil> godbyk: ok, i'll add the new file as double-nl.svg later on. please take care of renaming the titlepage-*, as that should happen with updating the script
[20:34] <godbyk> thorwil: I'll do that.
[20:34] <godbyk> thorwil: Thanks for your help!
[20:34] <godbyk> thorwil: I'll probably have some more cover requests coming soon, too.  (Just a heads-up.)
[20:35] <thorwil> godbyk: your welcome. i just take care of crumbs, while you deal with whole slices of the cake :)
[20:36] <godbyk> Mmm.. cake!  :-)
[20:36] <godbyk> thorwil: Oh, one more thing to keep in mind with the covers:
[20:36] <thorwil> s/your/you're/, sheesh as if i have to type the standard mistakes
[20:37] <godbyk> CreateSpace adds an ISBN barcode to the bottom-right cover of the back cover.
[20:37] <godbyk> So when you're designing covers, don't put anything vital in that spot or it will be occluded by the barcode.
[20:37] <godbyk> (With the current covers, this isn't an issue.)
[20:37] <godbyk> thorwil: As long as you don't harp at my on my bad typing days, I'll leave you alone on yours. ;-)
[20:38] <thorwil> can you get the position/measurements of the barcode?
[20:38] <godbyk> Sure. One moment.
[20:39] <godbyk> thorwil: https://www.createspace.com/Products/Book/CoverPDF.jsp
[20:39] <godbyk> It's 2" × 1.2", but it doesn't give the exact position information.
[20:40] <godbyk> On the printed copy that I received, the barcode sites ¼" from the bottom of the trimmed edge and ¼" from the fold of the spine.
[20:43] <thorwil> ty. sucks. no way to relate my layout to that
[20:43] <thorwil> barbarians! :)
[20:47] <CarstenG> Hi Kevin and Thorsten
[20:47] <thorwil> ho CarstenG
[20:47] <CarstenG> Nice to see, that you found another service for printing. :-)
[20:49] <CarstenG> Do they have the possibility, that the customer can decide during the order process if he wants a color or black/white version?
[20:49] <godbyk> CarstenG: I can upload a color edition if you like. It'd be quite a bit pricier, I think.
[20:50] <CarstenG> oh, ok. So the same procedure as at lulu...
[20:50] <godbyk> CarstenG: Yeah, pretty much.
[20:50] <godbyk> CarstenG: Whoever publishes the book decides what format (black-and-white, color, hardcover, paperback, page size, etc.).
[20:51] <godbyk> CarstenG: If you're interested in a color edition, I can create one for you, though.
[20:51] <CarstenG> I will come with this point back to you, when we have finished the German version...
[20:51] <godbyk> CarstenG: Okay.
[20:52] <CarstenG> 28% left to translate...
[20:53] <godbyk> CarstenG: Take your time.. I have plenty of other translations to publish. ;-)
[20:54] <CarstenG> Yeah, great. 5 are nearly ready
[20:54] <CarstenG> and of Malay only the screenshots are missing..
[20:55] <godbyk> Next on my to do list is to see if I can figure out why French words with apostrophes in them aren't being hyphenated properly.
[20:55] <godbyk> (It seems like each translation has its own special issues to be worked out. At least we only have to fix the problem once [most the time].)  :)
[20:58] <CarstenG> You mean something like »s’améliorer.« on page 6 of the French version?
[20:59] <CarstenG> Looks really not aesthetic...
[20:59] <godbyk> CarstenG: Yeah, they're causing overly long lines in a number of places.
[21:00] <godbyk> I'm trying to pin down the cause of the problem now.
[21:01] <CarstenG> Then I have one more problem for you. :-)
[21:01] <godbyk> CarstenG: What's that?
[21:01] <CarstenG> The quotation marks in malay are printed as ?
[21:01] <godbyk> CarstenG: Ah, that should be an easy fix.
[21:01] <CarstenG> And should be as the english ones...
[21:02] <CarstenG> ... as Susah wrote in his email.
[21:02] <godbyk> Ookay.
[21:03] <godbyk> CarstenG: Are they working on precise-e2 or quantal (or both)?
[21:04] <CarstenG> on precise-e2
[21:04] <godbyk> Okay.
[21:08] <thorwil> double-nl.svg pushed
[21:09] <godbyk> thorwil: Thanks!
[21:09] <godbyk> I'll upload it and see if it complains about anything.
[21:11] <godbyk> thorwil: Oops! I forgot to send you Dutch text for the back cover.
[21:11] <godbyk> Lemme find that for you.
[21:12] <CarstenG> I was also wondering about that. :-)
[21:12] <CarstenG> Only english there. :-)
[21:12] <thorwil> godbyk: that happens when i switch from debugging clojure, try to figure out why ardour 2 doesn'tbuild and try to finish a titlepage svg ;)
[21:13] <thorwil> otherwise i surely would have remembered to actually check the text
[21:13] <godbyk> thorwil: Heh.. no problem! :-)
[21:14] <CarstenG> This is one idea for the raring manual: Can we include all these texts to the pot file so that they are available on LP?
[21:14] <godbyk> It looks like it should be the same text as for the lucid-e1 cover.
[21:14] <godbyk> CarstenG: Possibly. We should look into that.
[21:15] <godbyk> CarstenG: Hannie and I were talking the other day and we'd like to rewrite this cover text anyway.
[21:16] <godbyk> thorwil: I've emailed you the old lucid-e1 Dutch covers.  The text on the back cover should be the same for precise-e2.
[21:26] <thorwil> godbyk: i copied the text from that branch
[21:26]  * thorwil has them all collected
[21:26] <godbyk> thorwil: So organized!  (More so than I!)
[21:26] <thorwil> godbyk: better have Hannie take a look at it
[21:26] <godbyk> thorwil: I'll do that.
[21:27] <thorwil> have to run, cya
[23:18] <CarstenG> Ok, see you tomorrow.
[23:19] <CarstenG> bye


[01:09] <antdillon> hatch, https://code.launchpad.net/~ya-bo-ng/juju-gui/onboarding-continued/+merge/192247
[04:53] <hatch> jcsackett, ping
[04:53] <jcsackett> hatch: pong.
[04:53] <hatch> https://github.com/rosskukulinski/ghost-ansible/blob/master/templates/ghost.upstart.tmpl
[04:53] <hatch> was this the upstart script?
[04:54] <jcsackett> hatch: no.
[04:54] <jcsackett> one sec.
[04:55] <jcsackett> hatch: it's on this page http://docs.ghost.org/installation/deploy/
[04:55] <hatch> thanks
[04:55] <jcsackett> it's under the "Init Script" heading.
[04:55] <hatch> internet.....is......so.......slow........
[04:56] <hatch> wow that's.....deep man
[04:56] <hatch> lol I guess I'll see if I can copy it mostly wholesale
[17:41] <antdillon> hatch, Can you very nicely lbox this for me: lp:~ya-bo-ng/juju-gui/onboarding-continued
[18:10] <antdillon> hatch, Ok branch is ready. Could you lbox for me please?
[23:38] <jcsackett> hatch: how do you feel about the ghost charm just not supporting sqlite deployments? b/c the added complexity at this stage doesn't see worth it.
[23:38] <huwshimi> hatch: Choo choo!
[23:39]  * jcsackett laughs


[16:43] <smoser> harlowja, around ?
[16:43] <smoser> looking at cloudinit/distros/rhel.py i realize i think we have multiple paths doing the same thing now.
[16:55] <smoser> actually, i think _write_network is probably never called now.
[16:56] <smoser> except for very explicit dsmode=pass on openstack config drive.
[17:26] <smoser> larsks, ping
[17:26] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~bregeer-ctl/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/305058
[17:26] <smoser> i'd appreciate your eyes on that.
[17:27] <smoser> and rangerpb also
[17:33] <larsks> smoser: taking a look...
[17:34] <x58> smoser: This better? :P
[17:35] <smoser> x58, sure. and x58 i just asked larsks to review your mp also
[17:35] <x58> Cheers :-)
[17:40] <harlowja> smoser  what up
[17:40] <harlowja> yes, we have multiple paths for networking :-/
[17:40] <smoser> i think the one there is dead now.
[17:40] <harlowja> sweet
[17:41] <harlowja> dead code removal ftw
[17:41] <smoser> as in never used.
[17:41] <harlowja> as in deaded?
[17:41] <harlowja> not alive?
[17:41] <harlowja> dead as a doorknob
[17:41] <smoser> except for oepnstack case where user feeds 'dsmode=pass'
[17:41] <smoser> which actually doesnt work that well anyway
[17:41] <harlowja> ya, i bet, never tried that way
[18:38] <x58> Sorry gents, thanks for the review, but I can't in good conscience allow Canonical to take my code and potentially relicense it under a different license.
[19:26] <smoser> rharper, https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/305137
[19:26] <smoser> if you want to read that quick... seems simple. probably necessary for curtin too
[19:27] <smoser> actually not necessary for curtin
[19:27]  * smoser updates bug


[16:07] <ukmx> hi I have a question about the cloud-init
[16:08] <ukmx> i am using the aws with cloud-init, and i found a issue, the clould-init log has lots of  ELB health check log and local health check log. Meanwhile these log are also logged in syslog
[16:09] <ukmx> is there any way to disable the log to syslog?
[16:10] <ukmx> I have tried to remove syslog config, but it seem not work.   in the file /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/05_logging.cfg


[09:17] <ikken> hello can anyone help me? when i try to boot into lubuintu it is stuck on " Repeat this process for the rest od the CDs in your set" its 22.04 and the machine is lenovo ideapad 110