[17:42] <seronis> SpaceCow567:  do not ask a question again while it is still visible on screen.  spamming == Bad Thing(tm)
[17:42] <jrib> wolfie2x: not on my mirror
[17:42] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: other port fwds work ok?
[17:42] <SpaceCow567> seronis: Got it
[17:42] <matthew>  is this the power ranger room ?
[17:42] <ratpoison> lemme check, I don't think so
[17:42] <inzi85> i need some help on installing my satellite card for internet usage on ubuntu
[17:42] <jrib> !topic | matthew
[17:42] <Pici> wolfie2x: 2.6.27-8 is only in the -proposed repositories currently.
[17:42] <inzi85> do u happen to know how?
[17:43] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: maybe you have to enter the fwds on a different screen
[17:43] <matthew> I was in an ubuntu hospital in south africa
[17:43] <cypr1nus> exit
[17:43] <norbert79> inzi85: Whats a satellite card? Btw did you try just to plugging it in? :)
[17:43] <seronis> SpaceCow567:  btw make sure you check all the volume controls.  I had one of the obscure settings low and it was effecting only web pages but not other sound sources
[17:43] <matthew> !cheetos
[17:43] <inzi85> i did plug it in.
[17:43] <SpaceCow567> seronis: okay, ill check again
[17:44] <inzi85> but i dont' know how to install the drivers and stuff for it.
[17:44] <Pici> matthew: This is the Ubuntu Linux support channel, do you have a question?
[17:44] <seronis> SpaceCow567: just make sure you click 'preferences' and show the other slider bars and check for any too low or muted
[17:44] <ratpoison> nope the don't, and believe you me, I've been using that router for 3 years, I know teh interface
[17:44] <matthew> yes what is ubuntu linux
[17:44] <Pici> !ubuntu | matthew
[17:44] <norbert79> inzi85: Linux works way different, than Windows... Mark this first. :)
[17:44] <matthew> free os ?
[17:44] <matthew> yeah right
[17:44] <matthew> what is the catch
[17:44] <inzi85> yes.. i know..
[17:44] <aslpls> anybody please?
[17:44] <aslpls> :D
[17:45] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: could it be because my ip is provided by DHCP and not static? (silly question, but humour me)
[17:45] <dissocia7ive> does ubuntu uses utf8 terminal by default?
[17:45] <seronis> aslpls:  what was your issue?  (its not within my limited few pages of scroll buffer)
[17:45] <andre_d> In Update Manager in Intrepid I see "The list of changes is not available" for each and every available update. Why is that? These updates have been available for long too..
[17:45] <azharcs> matthew . catch is you don't have to use crapware and stop trolling.
[17:45] <norbert79> dissocia7ive: Yes
[17:45] <Slart> matthew: free as in speech.. not beer
[17:45] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: Not unless the IP changes
[17:45] <SpaceCow567> seronis: yup, im looking now
[17:45] <aslpls> seronis i want to setup pgp + vista 64 and ubuntu 64 in dual boot
[17:46] <matthew> like these jalepeno chips where free but I'll get heartburn free ?
[17:46] <aslpls> is there a way to do this?
[17:46] <wolfie2x> Pici: how do i add it? I have 'proposed' already checked in synaptic
[17:46] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: right now it is .101 --- it is unlikely to change
[17:46] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: that's what I thought, but I've config'ed it so that it gives addresses based on MAC
[17:46] <matthew> were *
[17:46] <ga2arch> hello
[17:46] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: it's .100, but that's irrelevant
[17:46] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: then that is not pure DHCP so you're fine
[17:46] <jrib> wolfie2x: do you understand what -proposed is for?
[17:46] <dissocia7ive> I ask because I have a problem with a command line program and it's related to foreign characters that only works fine with ubuntu but not in my distro: slackware
[17:46] <ga2arch> how can i install gecko-sharp on intrepid ??
[17:46] <matthew> so if this ubuntu is free how to I get it
[17:46] <seronis> aslpls: with a preexisting install im not very good.  generally i do all my partitioning first,  then install xp then install linux and have no issues
[17:46] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: even on my network (with 10,000 clients) I keep the same DHCP lease for a year
[17:46] <jrib> matthew: visit ubuntu.com in your web browser
[17:46] <aslpls> yes but pgp too?
[17:46] <Cpudan80> or more
[17:47] <matthew> and why not use windows it comes with computers
[17:47] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: that's a new definition of fine.... I just want to open my ports!
[17:47] <Mimi> matthew, download and burn a ubuntu iso, and try it out yourself. You do not need to install it to try it
[17:47] <Slart> matthew: www.ubuntu.com
[17:47] <azharcs> matthew : http://www.ubuntu.com, download it or request for free cd.
[17:47] <wolfie2x> jrib: that kernel fixes a DELL specific brightness bug.. I badly need it
[17:47] <jrib> matthew: you can use whatever you want
[17:47] <creative> http://pastebin.com/m76fc9cac any1 ?
[17:47] <Slart> matthew: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic , they have some great answers for that
[17:47] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: Is there some other applications and gaming or something like that in the router?
[17:47] <aslpls> seronis : how do i put pgp too beside the dual boot? because the dual boot works already but it don't with pgp
[17:47] <matthew> like making a dvd or burning a dvd iso image ?
[17:47] <jrib> wolfie2x: k, well I'd recommend only getting the kernel from there and not updating other packages
[17:47] <seronis> aslpls: not sure what pgp is ?
[17:47] <ratpoison> No. NAT is configured by a tab called "Virtual Sever"
[17:48] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: *server
[17:48] <jrib> wolfie2x: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:48] <dissocia7ive> brb I will try something
[17:48] <matthew> what happens to my windows stuff :|
[17:48] <aslpls> seronis : pgp stands for preety good privacy it's for encrypting the harddrive and other things too
[17:48] <SpaceCow567> seronis: i had no luck with the volume controls
[17:48] <ga2arch> how can i install gecko-sharp on intrepid ??? please help me :)
[17:48] <grendal_prime2> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[17:48] <grendal_prime2> ok intrepid is pissing me off bigtime
[17:49] <gkahla> hey folks - how did the developers set up hibernation for laptops?
[17:49] <Mimi> matthew,  i think your questions would be better answered on ubuntuforums.org it's way too complicated to answer here.
[17:49] <grendal_prime2> i cant get the video to work right no any system...
[17:49] <gkahla> grendal_prime- what's going on w/ intrepid?
[17:49] <grendal_prime2> im trying to build it on a virtalbox installation at this point.
[17:49] <matthew> I'm jk anyways I use ubuntu have been for years just bored
[17:49] <grendal_prime2> i cant get the guest additions to install
[17:49] <grendal_prime2> so my video is..well 600X800
[17:50] <froger> hello
[17:50] <matthew> grendal you need a newer version of virtual box if your install intripid
[17:50] <blaze> hello
[17:50] <grendal_prime2> it didnt recognize my intel integrated video card on the laptop i tried to install it on..
[17:50] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: anyway, I'll screw my awesome uptime and do a router restart... mainly because I've run out of ideas
[17:50] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: you need to click the firewall tab in your router
[17:50] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: dont reboot the router
[17:50] <Mimi> !enter > grendal_prime2     | You need to go to #vbox for help. They have a good help file/manual that you can look for help. I have done it myself
[17:50] <wolfie2x> Pici: http://pastebin.com/debb9429
[17:50] <Guest64052> virtualbox 2.0.4 work great of ubuntu 8.10
[17:51] <Guest64052> i know virtualbox how can i help
[17:51] <andre_d> In Update Manager in Intrepid I see "The list of changes is not available" for every available update. Is that a known bug? If so, any known fix for it?
[17:51] <matthew> I think I'm still using 1.6 lol
[17:51] <GaMbi_DK> anyone who knows how to turn off sound(or maybe just music) in frozen bubble? :)
[17:51] <grendal_prime2> grrrrrrrrrr
[17:51] <aslpls> anybody knows pgp in here?????????????????
[17:51] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: I clicked teh firewall tab, but I have all options off...
[17:51] <jrib> wolfie2x: pastebin: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.27-8-generic
[17:51] <grendal_prime2> I didnt install intrepid on my host, im installing intrepid as a guest.
[17:51] <joaopinto> andre_d, the changes list takes sometime toe become available
[17:51] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: for the sake of eliminating parameters for my problem
[17:52] <Coggz> hey all, needing some help with xorg
[17:52] <matthew> grendal you need to update virtualbox
[17:52] <bastid_raZor> grendal_prime; #vbox would be the place for your questions
[17:52] <andre_d> joaopinto: I know, but these updates have been available for very long, so it's not that.
[17:52] <seronis> aslpls: there is no pgp channel here,  but have you checked their website to see if they have one on another irc server?
[17:52] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: Your router is dumb for allowing you to do that --- you still need to do the fwds in there
[17:52] <Guest64052> im running virtualbox 2.04 on ubuntu 8.10 and all works great
[17:52] <c_korn> hello
[17:52] <Coggz> hi
[17:52] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: set the default rule to fwd and fill in the boxes
[17:53] <aslpls> yes seronis and there isn't any channel like that neither a server :(
[17:53] <c_korn> where is the log of the output on system startup saved?
[17:53] <matthew> 2.6.27 kernel is what is used with ibex and your version of vbox must be old and can't use the older modules for your guest adds with ibex
[17:53] <Soul> need alternative nvidia graphic card driver and someone who can fix pci-express device error
[17:53] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: I've never had to do that before... but I'll do it brb
[17:53] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: thats how it should be done I think
[17:53] <Cpudan80> that virtual servers thing is for ... something else
[17:53] <Guest64052> just uninstall old virtual box and download the new from sun xvm
[17:53] <seronis> soul:  system->administration->hardware drivers
[17:53] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[17:53] <seronis> ?
[17:54] <Cpudan80> Why cant these router vendors just follow Linksys and make the guis decent and comprehensible
[17:54] <matthew> guest64052 how is version 2 ?
[17:54] <matthew> is there a deb or did you install the source
[17:54] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=ftp%3A%2F%2Fdownload.level1.info%2Fmanual%2FFBR-1461(EN).pdf&ei=YMUZSd2YFIyi8gS5z4SvDg&usg=AFQjCNGMm6oprtH7XfR7Q36fYDcAC6Whnw&sig2=bflvbUza5JIgXfz_5W_IoA
[17:54] <Soul> seronis ... that are the original ones, they dont work for me
[17:54] <Guest64052> version 2 is awesome no problems so far
[17:54] <matthew> deb source ?
[17:54] <Cpudan80> ratpoison: page 43
[17:54] <efiop> hi
[17:55] <efiop> can some one help me ? i need switch spell , deb pakage
[17:55] <seronis> Soul: sorry thats the only ones i know of.   but i only have an FX 5700LE too
[17:55] <Guest64052> can download it from sun xvm ...http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html
[17:56] <Guest64052> sorry about my name im new ...lol to irc
[17:56] <matthew> nm I found it
[17:56] <andre_d> No-one else seeing all updates in Intrepid having the description "The list of changes is not available"? Even for updates that's been available for long.
[17:56] <Soul> seronis np, but my system gets freezed while using nvidia 177, 173, 96, 71
[17:56] <sisif> Hello guys. Can somebody please recomend me a decent mp3/ogg Tag Editor. So far I`ve used EasyTag which is really great but i`ve discovered that some files are missing the tags after being edited with it (atleast amarok don`t displays them). I`ve also tried Picard (from musicbrainz) but I find it rather dificult to operate. So, are there any decent tag editors that I could try ? Thanks.
[17:56] <efiop> some one can help me ?
[17:56] <legend2440> GaMbi_DK: S key doesnt toggle sound ?it did in older version . are you using frozen 2.0?
[17:56] <Guest64052> whats nm ??? lol ;(
[17:56] <joaopinto> andre_d, the changelist server maybe down, that is not a bug
[17:57] <seronis> Guest64052: :  nm == never mind
[17:57] <ratpoison> Cpudan80: thnx, I'll check on that and get back to you
[17:57] <Guest64052> http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html
[17:57] <Guest64052> http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html
[17:57] <Guest64052> http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html
[17:57] <FloodBot3> Guest64052: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:57] <Tundrayeti311> sisif: sometimes w/ easytag i forget to check the box that actually changes the tag... idk if that could be the problem for you
[17:57] <aksci> can any1 quickly tell me in which directory would i'll find all the desktop configuration files???
[17:57] <matthew> I'm gonna update this bbl
[17:57] <andre_d> joaopinto: Do you see a change lists in update manager now? If it's down, then it's been down for at least a week.
[17:58] <Guest64052> for what aksci???
[17:58] <aksci> or in which directory will i find screens and graphics
[17:58] <Guest64052> virtualbox???
[17:58] <wolfie2x> Pici: why does http://pastebin.com say this  "Sorry, your post tripped our spam filter " ???
[17:58] <joaopinto> andre_d, I don't have updates to perform right now, but the last time I have checked the change list was not available
[17:58] <scribawf> !wtfworks
[17:58] <sisif> Tundrayeti311 : No. I`m quite sure i`ve checked the box.
[17:58] <Pici> wolfie2x: I don't know, sorry.
[17:59] <aksci> in which directory will i find screens and graphics
[17:59] <andre_d> joaopinto: Ok, thanks. I don't like blindly installing updates that I don't know what they do.
[17:59] <sinan1> I am having a weird issue, i can't do any network communication from within the terminal (stuff like ping), although Firefox is running just fine. Any ideas?
[18:00] <aksci> can any1 please tell me in which directory will i find 'screens and graphics' or any desktop configuration file?
[18:00] <fosco_> aksci, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:01] <Deinumite> aksci, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the config file for the xorg server
[18:02] <luke__> does anyone know a good site on screenlets?
[18:02] <woody86> can anyone help me, I can't print a document! I installed my printer a while ago, and it recognizes it under system>admin>printing, but it won't actually print??
[18:03] <matthew> vbox ver 2 seems to be good
[18:03] <luke__> is the printer on?
[18:03] <matthew> I'm gonna install ibex on it now and try guest adds
[18:03] <woody86> luke__- yup :)
[18:03] <aksci> fosco Deinumite ,.. no... i need the directory in the filesystem which holds all the desktop configuration files
[18:03] <luke__> Layer 1
[18:03] <luke__> just checking
[18:03] <luke__> hah
[18:03] <coldboot> Does anyone know why usleep and nanosleep are unimplemented in libc6?
[18:03] <fosco_> aksci, there are many files in many places
[18:04] <bungle> what folder are the kernel headers located ? (hope that makes sense)
[18:04] <erUSUL> aksci: there is no such a thing. Configuration of various parts of the desktop are kept in different places
[18:04] <morphles> I have a need for tv in card and found one "Leadtek winfast VC100" is there a good chance ubunu wold support such strange device, or any of this kind?
[18:04] <anders> bungle, /usr/src
[18:04] <Coggz> my xorg server has defaulted to 800x600 and i cant change it. I have tried dpkg-reconfigure, dexconf, and grandr but none work. Im on hardy 8.04
[18:04] <Deinumite> aksci, your thinkig of a registry, like windows?
[18:04] <erUSUL> bungle: if you installed them they are in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build/
[18:04] <bungle> thx anders
[18:04] <anders> np
[18:04] <leefmc> Question: How can i tell if there is an Intrepid Ibex ppa for btnx?
[18:05] <aksci> well,... okay. any place where i can find all the application launchers?
[18:05] <thruxton> hi, I have a fresh ubuntu install and wish to read mail directly from /var/spool/mail/ but there is no /var/spool/mail/my-username file at all?
[18:05] <absynthe> freakin alien arena's fps is so crappy!
[18:05] <lwizardl> anyone here use a epson TM-U220B on Linux using either LPT1 or USB?
[18:05] <leefmc> I added one, but the package manager is not finding what i added
[18:05] <bungle> i never installed them but on installing rt73 driver i come across a problem which i may be able to fix if i locate the folder erUSUL
[18:05] <fosco_> aksci, again, in many places
[18:05] <mr_polite> leefmc: sudo apt-get update
[18:05] <aksci> i came across 'Screens and Graphics' dcf in some folder which had many such launchers! and i cant remember which exact directory it was
[18:05] <erUSUL> bungle: 'dpkg -L linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[18:05] <absynthe> search for it
[18:06] <aksci> fosco_ it was somewhat like /usr/bin, but its not the one i need
[18:06] <absynthe> my canon pixma ip1600 wont work with hardy!
[18:06] <dracnes> I need help getting a  Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN working.
[18:06] <fosco_> aksci, sorry, i think i don't understand you
[18:06] <bungle> whats that do erUSUL ?
[18:06] <erUSUL> dracnes: sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[18:06] <leefmc> mr_polite: That just updates the package list doesn't it? I am talking about adding a software source, as that is what you need to do for btnx. The problem is, i cannot seem to find the software source for Intrepid
[18:07] <erUSUL> bungle: a command that will list the files installed by the headers package
[18:07] <leefmc> mr_polite: It says to use this "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/daou/ubuntu DISTRO main" but when i use "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/daou/ubuntu intrepid main" it cannot be found. Thoughts?
[18:07] <erUSUL> bungle: so you can see ehere the headers are
[18:07] <bungle> check this erUSUL this is the problem http://pastebin.com/d36e5ccbc
[18:07] <xand_> hi everyone, i used to have a script that would load upon a connection profile in wicd, which i had in my hardy installation, how can i do that with the new intrepid connection manager ?
[18:07] <bungle> apparently on sites ive googled the problem is the kernel headers
[18:07] <dracnes> erUSUL: thank you
[18:08] <q0s> legend2440, no. i patched libgtk2.0 and everything works. but some pngs aren't shown correctly after this. so, i want to know which settings were used for ./configure.
[18:08] <woody86> I had to change the option under print setup to make my document "urgent" and then it printed?
[18:09] <esben> I just intsalled 8.04, the only thing that is not working is the sound.
[18:09] <q0s> where can i get the correct ./configure settings which were used from the package creators for libgtk2.0-0?
[18:09] <fosco_> esben, try gstreamer-properties
[18:09] <ay> hi i need to change a password of ubtunt 6.06 from live session of 8.10 couse i lost the password. does anyone know how to  generate a password for ubuntu 6.06?
[18:09] <erUSUL> bungle: rt73.ko failed to build! is not very informative.... have you tried the included driver before building it ?
[18:09] <Flannel> ay: Don't use a liveCD, just use the recovery console, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[18:10] <fosco_> q0s, mostly sure no options were given
[18:10] <bungle> erUSUL sorry i dont know what u mean i just followed a tutorial and thats the error i got
[18:11] <q0s> fosco_, what do you mean?
[18:11] <ay> thx Flannel
[18:11] <esben> fosco_, yes, I tested all moduls but no luck
[18:11] <dug_> hal?
[18:11] <dug_> hal!
[18:11] <fosco_> ./configure will find the best options itself
[18:11] <erUSUL> bungle: i mean ubuntu already has a rt73usb driver included. does it work for you=?
[18:12] <bungle> erUSUL i never knew that all i no is if i type iwconfig i get no adaptors showing
[18:12] <dug_> do you still configure hal in xorg.conf?  intrepid commented out my trackpad settings, I want to turn off tap to click again (MaxTapMove MaxTapMove TabButton1)
[18:12] <dug_> maxtaptime i mean
[18:12] <erUSUL> bungle: is you wifi usb?
[18:12] <mib_dy8i5f> how do i get the qube desktop(where you can drag the qube to diffrent desktops) on ubuntu ?
[18:12] <erUSUL> !ccsm | mib_dy8i5f
[18:12] <bungle> erSUSL: yes
[18:13] <dug_> !hal
[18:13] <bungle> wrong name lol
[18:13] <fosco_> mib_dy8i5f, system - preferences - appearance, activade desktop effects
[18:13] <bungle> erUSUL: yes
[18:13] <erUSUL> bungle: try loading the driver "sudo modprobe rt73usb"
[18:13] <thruxton> how do i get a mail spool file? /var/spool/mail/ is empty
[18:13] <matthew> what kind of name is intrepid ibex
[18:13] <Flannel> matthew: A codename, the release/official name is Ubuntu 8.10
[18:13] <fosco_> matthew, ibex is an animal
[18:14] <matthew> figures
[18:14] <bungle> erUSUL man now i have wireless according to iwconfig
[18:14] <matthew> what kind of animal
[18:14] <bungle> erUSUL ty
[18:14] <erUSUL> bungle: ok ;) no problem
[18:14] <Taza> All guides I can find are outdated. Can anyone help me get Bluetooth to connect to my phone under Intrebid Ibex?
[18:14] <KFC> i got the problem with my p3 1.0ghz
[18:14] <fosco_> matthew, this one http://ubuntulife.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/ibex-m.jpg
[18:15] <KFC> when i going to install the system show ACPI = force is required to enable ACPI
[18:15] <KFC> but after i enable it
[18:15] <erUSUL> bungle: if you want the driver to load in each boot do "echo rt73usb | sudo tee -a /etc/modules "
[18:15] <KFC> it still same
[18:15] <matthew> cool
[18:15] <KFC> how to slove it
[18:15] <bungle> erUSUL: so it wont auto load then
[18:15] <KFC> pls help help
[18:15] <matthew> ubuntu themes are so gay lol
[18:15] <erUSUL> bungle: it is weird that the dirver does not load when you plug the dongle thought
[18:15] <matthew> I took the time to figure out how to change everything
[18:15] <matthew> lol
[18:15] <dracnes> erUSUL: I have the fwcutter do I need to do anything else?
[18:15] <erUSUL> bungle: well it seems that it does not
[18:15] <dug_> curse you hal
[18:15] <Flannel> matthew: Please don't use that term pejoratively
[18:15] <esben> I looks like the driver is installed but I cant get any sound out of my laptop
[18:16] <matthew> whoops
[18:16] <KFC> nobody answer me???????
[18:16] <dracnes> matthew: it's a type of antelope
[18:16] <erUSUL> dracnes: well do you see your wlan0 interface in "iwconfig" output ?
[18:16] <aksci> is there any way to exit superuser mode?
[18:16] <matthew> yeah I see
[18:16] <Flannel> aksci: What do you mean exit?
[18:16] <GaMbi_DK> frozen-bubble 2.1.0-2ubuntu3 (on 8.10) is there a way to turn off the sound? or maybe just the music.. Im told that "s" should toggle the sound.. but only worked on older version it seams
[18:17] <erUSUL> aksci: type "exit" hit enter
[18:17] <matthew> ubuntu 9.04 raging giraffe
[18:17] <KFC> ACPI: BISO age(1999) fails cutoff(2000) acpi = force is required to enable ACPI
[18:17] <bungle> erUSUL: thx ill keep that as a text file and i have no idea why it doesnt load auto im kida new at linux!
[18:17] <KFC> how?
[18:17] <aksci> exit in the sense, we use sudo with any application and the superuser privileges are provided for a certain time limit
[18:17] <dracnes> erUSUL: yes
[18:17] <aksci> any way we can exit superuser mode before that time limit?
[18:17] <Flannel> matthew: Jaunty Jackalope, actually.  And please stay on topic, youre questions recently would be better off in #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[18:17] <fosco_> KFC edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add acpi=force to your kernel line
[18:18] <erUSUL> dracnes: well there is nothing else to do... now network manager should be able to handle/configure it
[18:18] <Revage> Hey dudes, got a question concerning grub. if i select to install grub to an sd-card, will it touch the mbr of my hdd in any ways, or will everything just be written to the card?
[18:18] <slapp> can anybody offer some help on getting my sound to work its all scrachy when booting into ubuntu
[18:18] <dracnes> erUSUL: ok thanks
[18:18] <mib_dy8i5f> i just installed simple-ccsm, when i select the costum setting in appearance pref's and click Close nothing happens, and when i open it again, the Extra is selected.
[18:19] <fosco_> mib_dy8i5f, press ctrl + alt + left arrow to turn the cube
[18:19] <Flannel> Revage: If you install both stages to the sd card (including the MBR stuff), it won't touch your harddrives
[18:20] <mib_dy8i5f> fosco_: that has worked all along, but i want to be able to drag the "virtual cube" desktop thingie
[18:20] <fosco_> mib_dy8i5f, ctrl+alt+mouse button 1 over the wallpaper
[18:20] <Revage> Flanel so say, if i selected install grub to /dev/sdd with sdd beeing my card, would it be ok?
[18:20] <KFC> fosco_ how to edit? i;m newbie
[18:20] <Revage> or would i have to manually install it?
[18:20] <fosco_> KFC, do not touch grub if you are newbie
[18:20] <jgonick> I have a hot key on my keyboard that I would like to set to rythmbox.  The other hotkeys play/pause, email, etc..are set correctly.  Can some on point me in the right direction?  thanks..
[18:20] <erUSUL> !boot | KFC
[18:20] <Flannel> Revage: It should be ok, yes.
[18:21] <Revage> aight ill give it a try
[18:21] <Pyth> edd
[18:22] <|neon|> i have ubuntu install to my hd and dual booting with xp, can i create a usb with grub in it in case something happens , that way i can boot from the usb
[18:22] <tim167> hi, i need help getting bluetooth to work on gutsy. it says 'starting bluetooth services' and then nothing, the process hangs, thanks
[18:22] <Taza> Blech
[18:22] <slapp> anybody? sound scratchy when booting same with video ?
[18:22] <Taza> tim167: I have a problem with bluetooth not working on Intrepid.
[18:23] <oliverwisler> hello
[18:23] <erUSUL> |neon|: dwonload and burn supergrub disk
[18:23] <Taza> tim167: Windows XP is superior to Ubuntu when it comes to bluetooth
[18:23] <Taza> ... and also stability, handling of upgrades, it breaks less, has less clutter problems...
[18:23] <scientes> can i put two commands in a upstart file?
[18:23] <|neon|> erUSUL: got it thx
[18:24] <Taza> tim167: Just sayin', don't expect much help. Bluetooth in Ubuntu is and has always been horribly broken
[18:24] <tim167> Taza in hardy bluetooth works here, but i need bluetooth on a gutsy machine now
[18:24] <Flannel> Taza: Is there something we could help you with?
[18:24] <tim167> Taza,  ok thanks anyway
[18:24] <oliverwisler> I have a problem with my wlan card, it's an atheros 5418 and i tried ndiswrapper and madwifi but it still doesn't work. Any proposals?
[18:24] <Taza> Flannel: Yes. I can't pair my bluetooth devices. At all.
[18:24] <tim167> Flannel, bluetooth in gutsy ?
[18:25] <scientes> can i do two exec lines in upstart?
[18:25] <Flannel> tim167: Any reason you haven't upgraded to Hardy?  From what I remember (although you may want to look this up) bluetooth got some nice stuff in Hardy
[18:25] <Taza> tim167: And went straight down the sewer again in Ibex.
[18:25] <fosco_> scientes, command1 ; command2
[18:26] <erUSUL> scientes: what file?
[18:26] <Flannel> !doesntwork | Taza
[18:26] <theom3ga> hi there
[18:26] <slapp> help with sound new to linux sounds scratchy when booting and same with video sound
[18:26] <Taza> Flannel: It's useless for it doesn't even give a prompt on my phone when I try to pair it.
[18:26] <theom3ga> I'm trying to install libxine1-ffmpeg using aptitutde (& apt-get) and it says that it cannot be installed cause the md5 sum differs
[18:26] <erUSUL> scientes: is it a laptop with HDA sound card?
[18:26] <slapp> yea
[18:26] <Taza> And my phone is working perfectly and pairs every single time I do it on Windows and did on Hardy too.
[18:26] <erUSUL> slapp: is it a laptop with HDA sound card?
[18:27] <gavagai> how do i turn off the beeping in the terminal?  it's driving me nuts!  :)
[18:27] <erUSUL> slapp: try this http://bekirserifoglu.net/?p=52
[18:27] <slapp> ok ty
[18:27] <tim167> Flannel, it works in hardy, but i need it on gutsy, because i can't reinstall that computer now, it has too many configs an fine toning gone into it, and i need it, so i cant risk breaking that..
[18:27] <donomo> gavagai: Edit -> Profile
[18:27] <tim167> Flannel, *fine-tuning
[18:27] <Taza> Flannel: And by definition, bluetooth refusing to connect to anything does not work.
[18:27] <donomo> gavagai: the terminal bell is a setting in the general tab
[18:27] <phloat> I'm trying to set up a dual monitor system, and have one monitor hooked up to my GPU, and the other to the motherboard. The computer isn't detecting the motherboard monitor, can anyone help?
[18:27] <gavagai> donomo, thanks
[18:27] <sint> gavagai: http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/10/16/remove-the-system-beep-in-ubuntu/
[18:28] <theom3ga> what's the "the md5 sum differs" problem??
[18:28] <pioSko> Help: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70614/
[18:28] <Taza> tim167: Whatever the people here say, DON'T get coaxed into upgrading it. The upgrades can and always have horribly broken stuff.
[18:28] <nixcc3> anyone have an idea as to why i no longer see the option to 'connect to wireless networks' in my panel? still using 8.04 and currently hard wired.
[18:28] <sint> gavagai: thats how i've done it
[18:28] <kindofabuzz> My network manager is showing all the connections 3 times
[18:28] <Taza> tim167: And QED by a fanboy
[18:28] <xand_> hi everyone, i used to have a script that would load upon a connection profile in wicd, which i had in my hardy installation, how can i do that with the new intrepid connection manager ?
[18:29] <Flannel> Taza: If you're here for support, get support.  If you're just here to be annoying, please leave.
[18:29] <Taza> Flannel: I'm both getting support and giving support
[18:29] <sfears> having problems with login, laptop lost power during tty session, now it boots fine until the login window, i enter the password, screen switches like it usually does, only instead of the kde loading window, it drops back to the login window.  tty sessions work fine, added new user and get the same login results.  please help!
[18:29] <Taza> Flannel: For me both the transitions from 7.10 -> 8.04 and 8.04 -> 8.10 have broken stuff horribly, especially bluetooth-related
[18:29] <Flannel> tim167: if it works in Hardy but not in gutsy, it sounds like a bug in gutsy's bluetooth stack.  Try and find a bug in launchpad (probably a closed one, by now) that may contain a workaround.
[18:29] <aksci> fosco_, /usr/share/applications this was the directory i was talking about
[18:29] <Taza> I need to redo my bluetooth config which breaks differently every time every time I switch to a newer version
[18:30] <phloat> I'm trying to set up a dual monitor system, and have one monitor hooked up to my GPU, and the other to the motherboard. The computer isn't detecting the motherboard monitor, can anyone help?
[18:30] <tim167> Flannel,  Flannel  i can try, i found several bug reports on it but no solution so far...
[18:30] <aksci> exit does not exit the superuser mode
[18:30] <h4wk0> phloat: have you enabled it in bios settings.. Other then that i am not sure you can do it.
[18:30] <julian_> hi can somebody tell me or give me a site where i can read about how i can make an server installation run totally in a ramdisk?
[18:30] <deus> I've got a file and I need to read every line in it and pass it to a command. Something like: cat myfile | md5 ... But what do I have to put at the ...?
[18:31] <gavi> hi im looking for someone with a bit of expirence with vhcs
[18:31] <kindofabuzz> my NM shows 3 of everything. Known bug? (intrepid)
[18:31] <Flannel> aksci: What do you mean by exit?  You want to make a running program no longer be run by sudo, etc?  or what?
[18:31] <phloat> I'll check BIOS, thanks, h4wk0. I just think it's odd that it is only detecting the monitor hooked to the vid card.
[18:32] <erUSUL> deus: cat myfile | xargs command
[18:32] <aksci> no, i want the superuser privilege to be removed after using sudo once
[18:32] <scientes> this program simple wont work in upstart http://paste.ubuntu.com/70616/
[18:32] <h4wk0> phloat: Prob becuase the onboard is disabled which normally auto happens when there is a gfx card
[18:32] <Taza> So, anyone have a clue why a) the computer won't show up on the phone's bluetooth scan b) the pairing request won't show up in the phone once I send it from the phone and c) when I try to connect regardless, it actually connects but always fails pairing?
[18:32] <Flannel> aksci: Ah, you mean the cache, so you have to enter your password the next time?
[18:32] <Slart> aksci: there is a timout configuration setting somewhere.. perhaps the sudoers file
[18:32] <erUSUL> aksci: you ask to disable the password caching of sudo?
[18:33] <aksci> Flannel, absolutely!
[18:33] <Taza> Addition: Using Intrebid Ibex. It appears to be broken in new, exciting ways from Hardy or Gutsy.
[18:33] <limyongfu> hi all
 Hello limyongfu!
[18:33] <jrib> aksci: sudo -k   if you want to forget the saved password.  See 'man sudoers' if you never want it to remember the password
[18:33] <brain187> anyone buy powerdvd and the codecs yet>
[18:33] <Flannel> aksci: You can either configure it, so there is no password caching, or you can just use `sudo -k` to clear the cache whenever you want it to.
[18:34] <deus> erUSUL: thnx :)
[18:34] <erUSUL> deus: no problem
[18:34] <limyongfu> anyone know what this mean "Nov 12 01:33:44 afu-desktop kernel: [  434.016283] ata4: soft resetting link "
[18:34] <KFC> no L2 Cache can run ubuntu ???
[18:34] <limyongfu> Nov 12 01:34:14 afu-desktop kernel: [  464.090091] sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[18:34] <aksci> Flannel yeah,..thanks... sudo -k did the job! :)
[18:34] <erUSUL> limyongfu: the driver has asked the sata chip to reset itself
[18:35] <limyongfu> why i always repeat?
[18:35] <Taza> Anyone know where I can configure bluetooth PIN in Intrebid Ibex?
[18:35] <sahak> Every time my Ubuntu 8.10 laptop resumes from suspend, it asks for a password. Is there a way to disable the password prompt?
[18:35] <KFC> no L2 Cache can run ubuntu ???
[18:35] <erUSUL> limyongfu: is it spaming the logs?
[18:35] <llevering> kindofabuzz: it certainly is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/262974
[18:35] <limyongfu> yup
[18:35] <kindofabuzz> llevering, thanks, was just searching for it
[18:35] <erUSUL> KFC: L2 cache of the cpu is supported by ubuntu yes; if that's what you are asking
[18:36] <llevering> I had seen the report early so I only needed to dig the URL
[18:36] <sfears> having problems with login, laptop lost power during tty session, now it boots fine until the login window, i enter the password, screen switches like it usually does, only instead of the kde loading window, it drops back to the login window.  tty sessions work fine, added new user and get the same login results.  please help!
[18:36] <erUSUL> limyongfu: then may be a hardware issue (bad cabling or conection or buggy hard) or may be a driver bug. Report to launchpad
[18:36] <limyongfu> Nov 12 01:35:50 afu-desktop kernel: [  560.301197] sd 3:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[18:36] <erUSUL> !bugs | limyongfu
[18:36] <KFC> no L2 Cache can run ubuntu ???
[18:37] <limyongfu> oh thanks
[18:37] <Taza> KFC: Probably, try the live CD?
[18:37] <KFC> ya
[18:37] <KFC> but fail when trying the live CD
[18:37] <KFC> coz i'm using p3
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:39] <tomek_> hi
[18:39] <Flannel> KFC: Use the alternate CD to install, but it'll run fine.
[18:39] <arve> arve
[18:40] <arve> whups
[18:40] <Taza> Flannel: Try Xubuntu btw? Ubuntu is a bit heavy for a P3
[18:40] <KFC> try before fail also
[18:40] <Taza> Err
[18:40] <KFC> why like that?
[18:40] <Taza> KFC: Try Xubuntu btw? Ubuntu is a bit heavy for a P3
[18:40] <KFC> ok
[18:41] <arve> is there a way of starting a program(graphical program in particular) from term without it "taking up" the terminal?
[18:41] <deus> is there a command which is able to calculate the md5sum over a string? md5sum seems to calculate md5sums of files
[18:41] <bardyr> arve, add a & after it
[18:41] <Taza> arve: & after it
[18:41] <arve> oh sweet, thanks
[18:41] <bardyr> arve, & will send it to the background, use fg if you want it back again
[18:42] <arve> awesome
[18:42] <jrib> deus: echo -n STRING | md5sum     should work
[18:45] <Oprtz> anyone knows how to enable Intel pro wireless adaptor 3945 in ubuntu 8.1 ? thanks, i dont know the terminal commands, plz help me
[18:45] <brain187> anyone else have a green screen on power dvd?
[18:46] <_JayT_> where can i get a list of supported video cards for intrepid?
[18:46] <erUSUL> Oprtz: should work out of the box... does it show in "iwconfig" output?
[18:48] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  can i pm u the output of iwconfig ?
[18:48] <erUSUL> !paste | Oprtz
[18:48] <amrcidiot> Hey guys, I was trying to move a directory to a memory card via terminal, and would up moving my /bin folder to it
[18:48] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/70625/
[18:48] <amrcidiot> not terminal recognizes no commands to move it back
[18:48] <amrcidiot> *now
[18:48] <gavagai> Can i get the weather to show on the top panel, or show when i hover over the clock?  or do i have to click on the clock, click on locations, and then hover over my location?
[18:48] <amrcidiot> how can I move it
[18:49] <erUSUL> Oprtz: well you have a wlan0 so your wifi card is working
[18:49] <ASULutzy> So here's a fun one, something on my system made an 85 GB and then a 25 GB file till it filled the partition
[18:49] <tomy> whiteli ne
[18:49] <ASULutzy> the files were /var/log/kdm.log and /var/log/kdm.log.1
[18:49] <tomy> are u here
[18:50] <amrcidiot> wow, let me type that again, lol.:
[18:50] <amrcidiot> Okay, I accidentally wound up moving my /bin folder to a memory card and now my terminal doesn't recognize any commands to move it back. How am I supposed to move it in root?
[18:50] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  but the light is OFF, the wirless adaptor light is switched OFF and i tried to turn it ON but failed what to do then
[18:50] <ASULutzy> I used less to check them out, bunch of stuff about 3dprimitive and 3dstate_binding_table_pointers
[18:50] <ASULutzy> I'm just rm'ing them and hoping it doesn't happen again, any idea how I would end up with 85 GB /var/log/kdm/log files?
[18:50] <erUSUL> Oprtz: sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[18:50] <ASULutzy> kdm.log that is
[18:51] <joebodo> amrcidiot include the path to the mv command
[18:51] <inzi85> I LOVE THIS PLACE.... THANKS for aLL THE HELP~
[18:51] <amrcidiot> i did
[18:51] <amrcidiot> what I'm saying is, I don't have a /bin folder
[18:51] <erUSUL> ASULutzy: well 25 GiB of logs are a lot of lines for sure
[18:51] <bakarat> why exactly is 8.10 shipping oo 2.4 and eclipse 3.2?
[18:51] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  it says " wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down "
[18:51] <apelgate> hi
[18:52] <joebodo> amrcidiot if you moved it to /someplace/bin then you would type /someplace/bin/mv
[18:52] <apelgate> how do I choose the installer resolution on ubuntu?
[18:52] <erUSUL> Oprtz: do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[18:52] <amrcidiot> oh, I seem thanks, how do I include it in the path, is that all I type
[18:52] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  wow it works , ur great, thanks alot dude
[18:53] <apelgate> or how do I install using text mode?
[18:53] <apelgate> this is not working
[18:53] <tomy> bitch ass hoe slut
[18:53] <vyoman> how do i empty the .Trash from the root account?
[18:53] <scientes> how do i add a loopback mount to fstab?
[18:53] <erUSUL> Oprtz: no problem
[18:53] <scientes> i want to mount the distro iso for apt-cdrom
[18:53] <inzi85> thanks everyone
[18:53] <Oprtz> erUSUL:  :)
[18:53] <inzi85> bye
[18:54] <erUSUL> scientes: the same as any other one but add loop to options ??
[18:54] <scientes> really erUSUL , i usually base of of mtab but it users /dev/loop4
[18:54] <tetsuo-shima> I cannot control acpi on my laptop in 8.10
[18:54] <amrcidiot> joebodo, how can I include it in my path?
[18:54] <monster> hy
[18:54] <stdin> scientes: something like "/filename /mountpoint iso9660 loop 0 0"
[18:54] <tomy> hi im a girl
[18:55] <Pici> tomy: hi we don't care.
[18:55] <tomy> can anyone tell me wat is this
[18:55] <joebodo> amrcidiot you should not change the location of the bin - you should move it back or create a link to the it
[18:55] <amrcidiot> I don't know how to move it back
[18:55] <erUSUL> scientes: the loop option will use the first unused /dev/loop* device
[18:55] <amrcidiot> that's my problem
[18:55] <scientes> ok thx erUSUL stdin
[18:55] <tetsuo-shima> seem to be a kernel problem
[18:56] <apelgate> or how do I install using text mode?
[18:56] <joebodo> amrcidiot cd / ; /whereeveriputthefiles/bin/ln -s /whereveriputthefiles/bin
[18:56] <amrcidiot> thanks, I'll try it
[18:56] <tomy> dose anyone has a link to a windows iso
[18:56] <joebodo> amrcidiot that's to link it to the new location
[18:56] <erUSUL> apelgate: sudo apt-get install packagename
[18:56] <tomy> tell me please
[18:57] <lorenzosu> Hi all
 Hello lorenzosu!
[18:57] <lorenzosu> Hi N1X0N
[18:57] <Pici> tomy: This is a Linux support channel, we do not support such things here.
[18:57] <tetsuo-shima> can anyone help?
[18:57] <tomy> oh
[18:57] <tomy> man'
[18:57] <dxdemetriou> on Intrepid I had a network printer that needs authentication with username and password, and worked very well with a popup window. after some updates this popup don't work anymore. what is the related utility for this?
[18:57] <Taza> Intrebid Ibex bluetooth problem solving: install a previous kernel version, run bluetooth wizard to pair it, then revert back to the old kernel.
[18:57] <Taza> Ugly, clumsy, but it fixes it
[18:57] <amrcidiot> cd is in the bin folder
[18:58] <amrcidiot> it won't let me run the command
[18:58] <lorenzosu> I upgraded from ubuntu studio 8.04 to 8.10 and system was broken. Tried completely removing ubuntu studio, then re-installing. But when I boot in the rt I get no wifi. Any clue?
[18:58] <erUSUL> amrcidiot: cd is a internal command of the shell it is not in /bin
[18:58] <lorenzosu> "normal" kernel works fine now
[18:58] <Taza> lorenzosu: The upgrade process from 8.04 to 8.10 seems to break a lot of systems.
[18:58] <joebodo> amrcidiot then you would use /somewhere/bin/cd (where somewhere is the name of your new location)
[18:58] <ville__> Hello guys! I have to laptop one running ubuntu 8.10 and the other one running windows xp... The machine that's running ubuntu has 11mbs wlan card and the xp machine head 54mbs card. I have an 8mb/s internet connection and I have noticed that the Ubuntu computer only gets 2817.61kbit/s and The xp machine gets 5049 kbit/s. does this have to do with the speed difference between the do WLAN cards?
[18:58] <lorenzosu> Awww... Taza, should have waited.
[18:59] <Taza> lorenzosu: And the problems somehow don't appear in fresh installs, at the very least mostly
[18:59] <Taza> lorenzosu: I've just worked some 12 hours restoring my machine. You're not alone in that sentiment
[18:59] <lorenzosu> I see. What would you advise Taza?
[18:59] <mikejet> I'm still having Firefox on x86_64 crash all the time. I don't get it.
[18:59] <Taza> lorenzosu: Back everything up, wipe HDD of everything Ubuntu, fresh install.
[18:59] <bakarat> is there a way for dia to integrate the different windows into 1 window?
[19:00] <amrcidiot> could whoever last typed what they did to me, please re-type it
[19:00] <Taza> bakarat: Not under Gnome afaik.
[19:00] <amrcidiot> pidgin crashed
[19:00] <amrcidiot> thank you
[19:00] <RolfCoptr> ville__: 3mb/s is ok for 11mbit/s
[19:00] <bakarat> Taza: as opposed to ... ? :>
[19:00] <Taza> bakarat: IIRC wmii could do that, but it's hard to use.
[19:00] <lorenzosu> I thought of that... but will lose lots of customisations.. :/ I'm kinda new to linux. What is vital to backup apart from my "document" files?
[19:00] <MaleXachi> Hello, what is a name for dutch ubuntu server?
[19:00] <Taza> lorenzosu: Usually /home and /etc
[19:00] <mohan34u> When encoding mp3 using ffmpeg, I got the "Unknown coder mp3" error.. any workaround?
[19:00] <mikejet> Is Firefox 3 on x86_64 released, or is this still beta?
[19:00] <ville__> RolfCoptr: ok so that's usual?
[19:00] <joebodo> amrcidiot then you would use /somewhere/bin/cd (where somewhere is the name of your new location)
[19:00] <lorenzosu> An example...
[19:00] <amrcidiot> thanks
[19:00] <mohan34u> I am using ibex..
[19:00] <RolfCoptr> ville__: yes
[19:00] <Taza> lorenzosu: Though you can't directly restore /etc or otherwise you'll re-break your system
[19:01] <lorenzosu> I spent half a day customising the keyboard shortcuts for a software... where would that have been saved typically?
[19:01] <kri> i have some apt borkage please se my error: http://sajten.net/libart
[19:01] <Taza> lorenzosu: If you did it as an user, /home
[19:01] <Taza> lorenzosu: Backing up everything /home is a good idea anyway
[19:01] <mikejet> Page #2 on this article crashes Firefox 1/2 the time: http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2008/11/11/The-End-of-Wall-Streets-Boom
[19:01] <lorenzosu> mhh... did it from the software's menu (it's a QT / KDE software)))
[19:02] <Taza> lorenzosu: Probably /home/lorenzosu/.software
[19:02] <mohan34u> When encoding mp3 using ffmpeg, I got the "Unknown coder mp3" error.. any workaround?
[19:02] <lorenzosu> which is home...
[19:02] <Taza> mohan34u: Do you have mp3 codecs installed?
[19:02] <Taza> lorenzosu: "File System" from places, there's a directory called "home"
[19:02] <abbronzato2> hello to all i need help for build a network bridge (this pc is connected by wireless and i need to share the interent over the cable to one pc): any suggestion? (i have tryed without success some method with 8.04 and now i'm upgrading to 8.10)
[19:02] <mohan34u> I installed non-free-codecs
[19:02] <lorenzosu> but then on the fresh install will it be safe to just merge the backed up /home on tho the fresh one?
[19:02] <amrcidiot> joebodo, all fixed, thanks a whole lot
[19:03] <Taza> lorenzosu: Usually but not always
[19:03] <lorenzosu> Yes.
[19:03] <erUSUL> !inetsharing | abbronzato2
[19:03] <joebodo> amrcidiot good to hear
[19:03] <lorenzosu> awwww
[19:03] <Taza> lorenzosu: Usually I migrate file-by-file. Firefox's data folder is always safe.
[19:03] <drguildo> how do i remove pulseaudio from ubuntu 8.10?
[19:03] <dxdemetriou> how can I use a network printer on multiuser machine that will ask for username and password for each user?
[19:03] <mohan34u> Taza: VLC, mplayer working correctly..
[19:03] <drguildo> the guide on the wiki doesn't work
[19:03] <Taza> mohan34u: VLC has inbuilt codecs, and so does mplayer I believe
[19:03] <drguildo> /etc/asound.conf doesn't exist
[19:03] <thrope> hi - where is the printer config in ibex?
[19:03] <lorenzosu> And the fact is I was impatient to upgrade because 2 of the softwares I use were upgraded in 8.10... while I failed to compile
[19:04] <tito_> en que sala puedo preguntar una duda con nautilus en ubuntu 8.10
[19:04] <Taza> lorenzosu: That's why people use Fedora. :P
[19:04] <erUSUL> !es | tito_
[19:04] <lorenzosu> What do you mean Taza?
[19:04] <abbronzato2> erUSUL, thx i have tryed with firestarter without success for this i'm tryng to upgrading this fully (perfect !) working 8.04
[19:04] <^fire_bir> hi all just aquick question, have Heron on cd already running very well tried today to download V 8.10 whatever it is called burnt it to Cd and it runs up ro the point where a load of stuff all loads ok then it comes to the bluetooth bit and it just rfuses to go any further how do i bypass this and get the rest to load please??
[19:04] <abbronzato2> i try to read that wiki
[19:04] <Taza> lorenzosu: Ubuntu isn't always that stable - everytime you upgrade you risk getting everything broken
[19:04] <lorenzosu> Is Fedora more stable?
[19:04] <Taza> I had to speed-update to 8.10 because I had to always manually recompile my kernel modules in 8.04...
[19:05] <Taza> lorenzosu: Not necessarily. Sometimes.
[19:05] <drguildo> how do i remove pulseaudio from ubuntu 8.10?
[19:05] <Taza> Try 'em out, there's plenty of distributions out there.
[19:05] <lorenzosu> What I love of Ubuntu is that all the hardware (including crappy integrated wifi) on my laptop works out of the box
[19:05] <ville__> hi again! I just tried an zyxel usb wlan adapter and it's 54mb/s but ubuntu says it's only 12. what can be the problem?
[19:05] <drguildo> lordleemo, wow that's nice good for you
[19:05] <drguildo> lorenzosu even
[19:05] <lorenzosu> Tried many distros and ubuntu was the first to succed in that
[19:05] <Taza> ville__: Simple. It's not fully supported.
[19:06] <ville__> Taza: ohh well now it says 24mb :)
[19:06] <lorenzosu> plus being a musician I love the ubuntu-studio layer
[19:06] <drguildo> lorenzosu, pure luck
[19:06] <joebodo> !wifi | ville__
[19:06] <lordleemo> drguildo: eh what ?????
[19:06] <^fire_bir> hi all just aquick question, have Heron on cd already running very well tried today to download V 8.10 whatever it is called burnt it to Cd and it runs up ro the point where a load of stuff all loads ok then it comes to the bluetooth bit and it just rfuses to go any further how do i bypass this and get the rest to load please??
[19:06] <thrope> does anyone know where printer settings are in 8.10? can't find it in preferences or administration... not sure if my menu options are messed up by upgrade, or if somethings changed
[19:06] <lorenzosu> Anyone have experience with gentoo?
[19:06] <drguildo> lorenzosu, this is a help channel so please stop wanking on about how much you love ubuntu
[19:06] <lorenzosu> ok sorry drguildo
[19:07] <abbronzato2> erUSUL, excuse me, firestarter and the other method still working with 8.10?
[19:07] <lorenzosu> was following on the discussion with Taza
[19:07] <drguildo> lorenzosu, not everyone is as lucky as you and need their problems fixed
[19:07] <drguildo> how do i remove pulseaudio from ubuntu 8.10?
[19:07] <lorenzosu> actually I have my whole ubuntu broken lol
[19:07] <abbronzato2> 37 minutes and i can try
[19:07] <erUSUL> abbronzato2: the command line method should work in every linux out there
[19:07] <Slart>  drguildo can't you just uninstall it?
[19:07] <abbronzato2> yep a bit complex :P
[19:07] <abbronzato2> ty
[19:08] <drguildo> Slack, no, now i have no sound and am getting gstreamer errors when i go to test it under preferences
[19:08] <drguildo> Slack, since removing it
[19:08] <ph8> hey all - after i pause xine and try to continue playback it doesn't work (stays paused - audio and video) - any ideas why?
[19:08] <thrope> could anyone point me to any documentation about printing with 8.10?
[19:08] <joebodo> drguildo follow the instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[19:08] <drguildo> sound in 8.10 is completely screwed for me on 2 machines
[19:08] <^fire_bir> hi all just aquick question, have Heron on cd already running very well tried today to download V 8.10 whatever it is called burnt it to Cd and it runs up ro the point where a load of stuff all loads ok then it comes to the bluetooth bit and it just rfuses to go any further how do i bypass this and get the rest to load please??
[19:08] <dracnes1> I added cafuego packages to my software sources so I can get the broadcom firmware but it isn't showing up in the add/remove programmes and I'm not sure what it's called
[19:08] <drguildo> joebodo, they don't work. /etc/asound.conf doesn't exist
[19:08] <bakarat> is there a way in dia to embed icons inside other icons (like containers) or is there a tool tha tallows you to do this?
[19:08] <Slapp> can someone help system sounds not working and video sounds not working pm plz
[19:09] <drguildo> Slack, 8.10?
[19:09] <drguildo> Slapp, 8.10?
[19:09] <Slapp> yes
[19:09] <Slapp> pm plz
[19:09] <drguildo> Slapp, yeah, well, sound in 8.10 is generally fucked
[19:09] <joebodo> drguildo why not just select alsa in system->preferences->sound ?
[19:09] <drguildo> Slapp, i suggest you switch back to hardy
[19:09] <Slapp> i have music playing
[19:09] <Slapp> and i can hear it fine
[19:10] <Slapp> just cant hear video sound or when booting
[19:10] <joebodo> drguildo plz dont give out misinformation
[19:10] <drguildo> joebodo, what misinformation?
[19:10] <erUSUL> !ohmy | drguildo
[19:10] <abbronzato2> erUSUL, sorry again, with a wireless wpa connecin (for connect the "server" to interent" i must configure the wpa supplicant too or the nm are still used?
[19:10] <thrope> is there any gui printer tool in ubuntu 8.10?
[19:10] <drguildo> there are tons of sound problems with 8.10
[19:10] <drguildo> search the bugtracker and google
[19:10] <Slart> thrope: what kind of tool.. what do you want to do?
[19:10] <drguildo> i think it's pulseaudio
[19:10] <drguildo> but alsa sucks as well
[19:10] <mynous> is there a way to disable the ebox web config page?
[19:10] <thrope> Slart: add a printer
[19:10] <overlord_tm> Any idea how to find out if my sound chip is broken or my audio config is broken? Mic just stoped working in the middle of skype call when i tried to record it with gnome sound recorder ...
[19:11] <Slapp> kk
[19:11] <erUSUL> abbronzato2: network manager  is still used afaics. but you can use other methods if you prefer
[19:11] <joebodo> drguildo downgrading is not easy and is not the solution people are looking for
[19:11] <Slart> thrope: system, administration, printing?
[19:11] <thrope> Slart: I dont have that
[19:11] <sinan1> is there a way to run ubuntu with a 2.4 kernel ?
[19:11] <drguildo> joebodo, it's the only solution if there isn't a fix available and you want sound to work
[19:11] <Slart> thrope: hmm.. ok.. let me see what that tool might be called..
[19:11] <fosco_> sinan1, manually donwload and compile it
[19:11] <abbronzato2> erUSUL, oh fine if nm works, i dont' want to configure it by wpa-supplicant
[19:11] <thrope> Slart: should that be  present on 8.10 ? its missing on my upgrade, both for existing new user and for a new admin
[19:12] <drguildo> joebodo, anyway, switching to alsa in sound preferences still gives a gstreamer error
[19:12] <sinan1> fosco_: will it cause a lot of "trouble" ?
[19:12] <erUSUL> sinan1: no
[19:12] <^fire_bir> hi all just aquick question, have Heron on cd already running very well tried today to download V 8.10 whatever it is called burnt it to Cd and it runs up ro the point where a load of stuff all loads ok then it comes to the bluetooth bit and it just rfuses to go any further how do i bypass this and get the rest to load please??
[19:12] <fosco_> sinan1, not easy for newbies
[19:12] <Slart> thrope: I don't really know.. I upgraded from 8.04 and I might have installed this tool earlier
[19:13] <^fire_bir> anyone reading me ls???
[19:13] <joebodo> drguildo do you test shounds work in preferences -> sound ?
[19:13] <^fire_bir> anyone reading me pls???
[19:13] <xand_> hi everyone, i used to have a script that would load upon a connection profile in wicd, which i had in my hardy installation, how can anyone help me to do that with the new intrepid connection manager ?
[19:13] <thrope> Slart: ok thanks
[19:13] <Tundrayeti311> !hi | ^fire_bir
[19:13] <drguildo> joebodo, i just got it to work by closing pidgin but same problem even with pulseaudio. man sound really is completely broken in 8.10
[19:13] <^fire_bir> thanks :-)
[19:13] <Slart> thrope: sudo apt-get install system-config-printer-gnome
[19:13] <drguildo> sounds is extremely loud and crackly and reducing the volume doesn't help
[19:14] <thrope> Slart: just tryign that - I thought system-config- stuff was redhat specific, but i guess not
[19:14] <Slart> thrope: eh.. I don't think you'll find much redhat stuff in the ubuntu repositories =)
[19:14] <dracnes1> erUSUL: I don't know why, but the wireless isn't working still. I read this morning about needing some firmware from cafuego and added it to the software sources but I can't find the packages in add/remove programmes (I don't know what they would be called either).
[19:15] <sinan1> fosco_, erUSUL: thanks ! :)
[19:15] <joebodo> !wifi | dracnes1
[19:15] <magcius> I don't know the correct term, but is there a "driver" that will capture the screen as a webcam?
[19:15] <thrope> Slart: I thought all those system-config-* tools were written by redhat... I think most were - I assumed ubuntu was using something else but I guess they are using the same
[19:15] <erUSUL> dracnes1: the "firmware from cafuego" is what b43-fwcutter installs
[19:15] <apelgate> how do I install ubuntu avoiding graphical mode?
[19:15] <RUMMY> I use Ubuntu 8.04, can I update gnome? now I use 2.22.3 version and I see that latest version is 2.24
[19:15] <parker01__> magcius-> not quite, but look into  xwd
[19:15] <erUSUL> dracnes1: cafuego packaged that firmware in ancient versions of ubuntu but his packages are not needed anymore
[19:16] <magcius> xwd... hmm...
[19:16] <dracnes1> hmm, so what am I missing?
[19:16] <Slart> thrope: I think you can trust everything marked with the little ubuntu logo in synaptic to work on your ubuntu install..
[19:16] <erUSUL> dracnes1: althought we miss him around here
[19:16] <magcius> Yeah... but it's got to stream continously.
[19:16] <Slart> thrope: I don't know who wrote it originally.. might very well be redhat
[19:16] <apelgate> how do I install ubuntu avoiding graphical mode?
[19:16] <i0x83> hey guys
[19:16]  * erUSUL notices he still is around
[19:16] <magcius> apelgate, use the alternative CD?
[19:16] <Slart> !alternate | apelgate
[19:16] <erUSUL> !alternate | apelgate
[19:16] <i0x83> im having major problems suspending or hibernating my ubuntu 8.10
[19:17] <i0x83> anybody else having issues ?
[19:17] <apelgate> ok
[19:17] <apelgate> thank's
[19:17] <joebodo> !i0x83 | ask
[19:17] <dracnes1> erUSUL: so why isn't the wireless working?
[19:17] <Slart> thrope: so.. did you get the printing option with the little gui thing?
[19:17] <erUSUL> dracnes1: does wlan0 show up in "iwconfig" ???
[19:17] <joebodo> !ask | i0x83
[19:17] <dracnes1> yes
[19:17] <thrope> Slart: yep - seems to be it (system - dminsitration - pritners) - thanks a lot
[19:17] <mker_> I have two harddrives, one is / and the other one /dev/sdb1 is mounted as /media/disk but why is it in the places menu in Nautilus as if it was a usb drive? I mean the little unmount symbol next to it. Haven't i mounted it the "correct" way?
[19:18] <erUSUL> dracnes1: then the driver is installed and works
[19:18] <Slart> thrope: you're welcome
[19:18] <the_cruel> hi
[19:18] <erUSUL> dracnes1: "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[19:18] <thrope> Slart: now just need to find out why the upgrade broke my samba share of the printer (which seems to be working fine locally)
[19:18] <magcius> Hmmm...
[19:18] <magcius> Any other ideas besides XWD/
[19:18] <Slart> thrope: ngh.. samba just doesn't play nice with me.. never has..
[19:18] <dracnes1> then why won't firefox connect when I unplug the ethernet?
[19:18] <jimv2000> @dracnes1 because you unplugged the ethernet?
[19:19] <_999> ohai
[19:19] <_999> is togg in dis house?
[19:19] <magcius> Umm...
[19:19] <erUSUL> dracnes1: becouse you did not connect to any wireless network yet?
[19:19] <i0x83> alright im unable to resume after suspend on ubuntu 8.10 using 2.6.27-8 i just get black screen any fixes ???
[19:19] <magcius> !noise | _999
[19:19] <_999> wut
[19:19] <magcius> But you used to...
[19:19] <jimv2000> lol
[19:19] <joebodo> !sleep
[19:19] <joebodo> !resume
[19:19] <magcius> Signal > Noise
[19:19] <jimv2000> !yourmom
[19:20] <Slart> !abuse
[19:20] <Slart> !botabuse
[19:20] <LjL> !botabuse
[19:20] <_999> !help
[19:20] <jimv2000> !anything.
[19:20] <i0x83> anyone ??????
[19:20] <_999> tut tut
[19:20] <_999> gafa gafa
[19:20] <togg719> !sex
[19:20] <dracnes1> erUSUL: how do I do that?
[19:21] <_999> what happened
[19:21] <erUSUL> dracnes1: use network manager.
[19:21] <_999> togg is here
[19:21] <Slart> i0x83: all I know is that hibernating/sleeping is a problem area when it comes to linux.. lots of hardware play around with non-standard stuff.. requires special drivers and such
[19:21] <erUSUL> dracnes1: is there an icon with two computers in the right top corner of your computer?
[19:21] <zimbres> I installed a software from source using some options in configure script and now i would like to choose different options, what should i do? Just run ./configure with the desired options and then make and make install?
[19:21] <_999> is this the official ubuntu channel
[19:22] <jenbon> bon soir tout le monde
[19:22] <Flannel> _999: It is
[19:22] <Flannel> !fr | jenbon
[19:22] <_999> oki e
[19:22] <Slart> zimbres: sounds like it would be worth a try
[19:22] <_999> c'est ca va!
[19:22] <mker_> I have two harddrives, one is / and the other one /dev/sdb1 is mounted as /media/disk but why is it in the places menu in Nautilus as if it was a usb drive? I mean the little unmount symbol next to it. Haven't i mounted it the "correct" way?
[19:22] <jenbon> sorry ciao
[19:22] <Slart> zimbres: you could try doing a "sudo make uninstall" first if you want
[19:22] <_999> cioa missoners
[19:22] <dracnes1> erUSUL: no
[19:22] <erUSUL> dracnes1: are you on 8.10 ??
[19:22] <dracnes1> yes
[19:23] <Slart> mker_: I think ubuntu considers all hard drives to be removable unless you put them in /etc/fstab.. it won't really be a problem
[19:23] <joebodo> mker_ check your /etc/mtab file -
[19:23] <zimbres> Slack, But the compilation process took three hours.
[19:23] <joebodo> mker_ oops - fstab
[19:23] <erUSUL> dracnes1: System>Preferences>Network configuration
[19:23] <magcius> Hmm...
[19:23] <magcius> I'm going to ask again...
[19:24] <dracnes1> network moniter?
[19:24] <magcius> I don't know the correct term, but is there a "driver" that will capture the screen as a webcam?
[19:24] <Slart> magcius: you mean like a screenshot program.. but it saves a video?
[19:24] <jimv2000> @magcius what are you trying to do?
[19:24] <mker_> Slart: joebodo: It is a small problem since it doesn't mount automatically at startup, I have to do it manually every time. I checked fstab and it isn't there.
[19:25] <magcius> jimv2000, Slart, trying to stream my desktop on Stickam for business purposes
[19:25] <dracnes1> erUSUL: network moniter?
[19:25] <erUSUL> dracnes1: i have it listed as Notwork configuration
[19:25] <joebodo> mker_ i believe adding an entry for that drive would solve the issue
[19:25] <Slart> magcius: try recordmydesktop... there might be others too
[19:25] <dracnes1> oh, ok
[19:25] <magcius> Slart, I don't think that will allow it to be streamed as a webcam.
[19:25] <erUSUL> dracnes1: Alt + f2 run "nm-connection-editor"
[19:25] <magcius> Or video source.
[19:25] <Slart> mker_: well.. sounds like putting it in the fstab file would solve that.. it isn't that hard.. man fstab for details
[19:26] <mker_> joebodo: Slart: I'll give it a try, thanks
[19:26] <JohnC-> hello room, i forget the name of the software/package which allows a user to configure which OS to boot first on startup. Can anyone please point me to its location on the web. I'm using ubuntu 8
[19:26] <joebodo> magcius look at webex - there is also a free alternative but i cant remember the name offhand
[19:26] <magcius> joebodo, does Webex work on Ubuntu?
[19:26] <jimv2000> @magcius sorry, no clue
[19:27] <joebodo> magcius yes - i use it on ubuntu
[19:27] <dracnes1> erUSUL: nothing happened.
[19:27] <magcius> joebodo, I have tried others and they aren't supported..
[19:27] <marko-_--> how do i check the folders space in the terminal ?
[19:27] <magcius> joebodo, any idea for free alternatives?
[19:27] <jimv2000> @JOhnC - System > Administration > Startup Manager
[19:27] <erUSUL> dracnes1: launch it from a terminal then
[19:27] <DelGurth> question, can someone explain to me why avahi causes problems when I have a .local domain?
[19:27] <joebodo> magcius give me 2 mins ill find it
[19:27] <erUSUL> marko-_--: du -hs folder/
[19:27] <DelGurth> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978582
[19:28] <jimv2000> !avahi
[19:28] <marko-_--> erUSUL, thanks
[19:28] <JohnC-> jimv2000, sorrym its not there,
[19:28] <Jodoog> I know it was planned for 2.6.28 in order to get Lenovo's APS working without need for a patch...but has 2.6.28-rc4 put general disc protection directly into the libata driver? Thanks :)
[19:28] <jimv2000> @JohnC I must have installed it...hold on
[19:28] <dracnes1> erUSUL: the terminal opened and then closed.
[19:28] <Slart> magcius: I think you're right.. perhaps there is something else you can use.. might even be able to use some kind of dummy video driver and pipe the output somewhere
[19:28] <magcius> Slart, that's exactly what I've been looking for.
[19:28] <erUSUL> dracnes1: the terminal or the program ?
[19:28] <Soopa> hi all
 Hello Soopa!
[19:28] <jimv2000> @JohnC: sudo apt-get install startupmanager
[19:28] <magcius> joebodo, was it DimDim?
[19:29] <joebodo> magcius vyew is free - youll have to check on linux support though
[19:29] <dracnes1> erUSUL: the teminal
[19:29] <Soopa> how can I see the names of the computers on my network?
[19:29] <erUSUL> dracnes1: o.0!!
[19:29] <Soopa> ...I want to see which computers my Ubuntu PC knows about
[19:29] <kharloss> sal all .
[19:29] <erUSUL> dracnes1: so you can not isuue any command?
[19:29] <jimv2000> @DelGurth:  If it's causing problems, you can remove Avahi...it's kind of like Rendvous for Mac.
[19:30] <JohnC-> jimv2000, currently i'm on a public cyber cafe. anyway i'll google it. Thanks.
[19:30] <joebodo> magcius Vyew 3.0 Uniquely Combines Real-time and Always-on Collaboration and Contextual Discussion on Any Digital Content Using Any Browser on Windows, Macintosh or Linux
[19:30] <Revage> Soopa: You meen places - network?
[19:30] <david_> some one speak spanish
[19:30] <Flannel> !es | david_
[19:30] <madsj> the fonts in emacs have gotten ugly; I'm using -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
[19:30] <erUSUL> !es | david_
[19:30] <jimv2000> @JohnC you can't use apt-get at a cybercafe?
[19:30] <JohnC-> windows
[19:30] <madsj> italics and smaller fonts look horribly; any idea which package I need ?
[19:30] <jimv2000> O
[19:30] <Soopa> Revage: well, yes, but all it says is "Windows network" there
[19:30] <DelGurth> jimv2000: I disabled it indeed, but I rather would have ubuntu to work out of the box at my current job location
[19:31] <DelGurth> jimv2000: how do I explain a new ubuntu user that the default install can't handle a .local domain as it's configured there
[19:31] <Soopa> Revage: I have two Ubuntu PCs here behind a home router
[19:31] <dracnes1> erUSUL: I can open the terminal under the apps tab but if I alt-f2 and run nm-connection-editor it opens and then closes.
[19:31] <joebodo> madsj have you tried to change the rendering option ?
[19:31] <erUSUL> dracnes1: that's why i'm asking you to run nm-connection-editor from a terminal
[19:32] <erUSUL> dracnes1: so any error get logged
[19:32] <Revage> Soopa: i managed it by setting up samba on my ubuntu boxes, but though i have a mixed network with linux and windows boxes in it
[19:32] <jimv2000> @DelGurth I suppose you could take mdns out of the resolv.conf file
[19:32] <jimv2000> oh
[19:32] <jimv2000> I didn't see your second message
[19:32] <DelGurth> not resolv.conf but nsswitch.conf
[19:32] <Soopa> Revage: hmmm, okay.  Is samba necessary?  I thought it was for emulating a windows network?
[19:32] <jimv2000> yeah, wrong file
[19:32] <Ultraputz> anyone had trouble getting banshee to open soma-fm ?
[19:33] <Dominik314>  my mashine has been trying to remove evolution for over two hours now, what is wrong with it?
[19:33] <DelGurth> but yes, it could be removed there as well.. but the admin userinterface also gives a way to remove it
[19:33] <RolfCoptr> poah diese alte von deer humboldt uni
[19:33] <RolfCoptr> ww
[19:33] <Revage> Soopa: well, its just my cup of tea, so there are probably other ways to manage it ;)
[19:33] <DelGurth> but thinking now, I'm "complaining" at the wrong place... it's avahi that's broken, not ubuntu
[19:33] <jimv2000> @DelGurth looks like something that should be changed
[19:34] <jimv2000> "if you have avahi (aka zeroconf) installed, *.local
[19:34] <jimv2000> addresses are resolved via mDNS first. The default config of avahi is to
[19:34] <jimv2000> fail if mDNS is enabled and the host is not found in mDNS. This means
[19:34] <jimv2000> that you cannot resolve addresses under .local which are
[19:34] <jimv2000> in DNS but not mDNS."
[19:34] <FloodBot3> jimv2000: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <DelGurth> allthough if avahi doesn't work in certain situations
[19:34] <Soopa> Revage: okay, thanks :)
[19:34] <mikejet> There needs to be a checkbox to disable all ipv6. We don't have the time to deal with that right now.
[19:34] <DelGurth> why is it enabled on default
[19:34] <dracnes1> erUSUL: sorry, I misunderstood
[19:34] <dracnes1> it doesn't give any output if I do that.
[19:34] <jimv2000> @DelGurth I don't know
[19:34] <erUSUL> dracnes1: it just dies?
[19:34] <jimv2000> it probably shouldn't be
[19:34] <jtisme> is brasero the preferred cd/dvd burner sw in ubuntu
[19:34] <deus> DelGurth: to improve the ipv6 deployment
[19:35] <erUSUL> jtisme: it is what you get installed by default
[19:35] <jtisme> erUSUL, right, is there a better one?
[19:35] <jimv2000> DNS and DHCP seem like they would be just fine for ipv6
[19:35] <dracnes1> erUSUL: it just goes back to the command prompt without anything in between.
[19:35] <DelGurth> yeah, wondering also why avahi would help ipv6 deployment ...
[19:35] <Revage> somebody knows how to solve the problem of firefox maximizing and hiding the gnome panels on startup?
[19:36] <JohnC-> jimv2000, is this like correct, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/all/startupmanager/download
[19:36] <jimv2000> yes
[19:36] <erUSUL> !best | jtisme i'm perfectly happy with Places>CD burner but ...
[19:36] <_JayT_> where can i get a list of supported video cards for intrepid?
[19:36] <JohnC-> ok. thanks.
[19:36] <jimv2000> np
[19:37] <erUSUL> !hsl
[19:37] <jtisme> erUSUL, ok thanks i just switched to ubuntu from kde and was wondering
[19:37] <erUSUL> !best | jtisme i'm perfectly happy with Places>CD burner but ...
[19:37] <po> does ubuntu have a program to make ringtones?
[19:37]  * erUSUL ubottu hates me :|
[19:37] <jimv2000> like midis?
[19:38] <po> im not totally sure but i got an lg chocolate 3
[19:38] <dracnes1> erUSUL: here is a copy:
[19:38] <dracnes1> biophile@ubuntu:~$ nm-connection-editor
[19:38] <dracnes1> biophile@ubuntu:~$ nm connection-editor
[19:38] <dracnes1> nm: 'connection-editor': No such file
[19:38] <dracnes1> biophile@ubuntu:~$ nm-connection-editor
[19:38] <FloodBot3> dracnes1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:38] <dracnes1> biophile@ubuntu:~$
[19:38] <jimv2000> @po http://tips.webdesign10.com/ringtones/free-ringtones-linux
[19:38] <seronis> Revage: i had that issue.  upgraded to latest firefox AFTER clearing out old prefs and it fixed it
[19:38] <dubby1> hey anyone, I am trying to set up a vpn server on a router that I have, I am attempting to connect to this vpn through ubuntu. The error i get is just "vpn connection failed" with no reason why,
[19:38] <dubby1> I wish to know the reason
[19:38] <dubby1> ../
[19:39] <DelGurth> deus: even "worse"
[19:39] <omucuvaca> hello...can i find an ubuntu based media center?
[19:39] <DelGurth> use-ipv6=no
[19:39] <Revage> seronis: what you mean by clearing out old prefs? deleting the ~/.mozilla folder?
[19:39] <RolfCoptr> omucuvaca: check "mythtv"
[19:39] <seronis> yup
[19:39] <DelGurth> is in my ubuntu 8.10 config
[19:39] <magcius> Hmm...
[19:39] <DelGurth> of the avahi deamon
[19:39] <magcius> Is there a way to get Java applets working in Firefox?
[19:39] <po> thanks jim2000 :D
[19:39] <DelGurth> so that doesn't sound like helping ipv6 deployment ...
[19:39] <erUSUL> dracnes1: sorry but dunno how to help further
[19:39] <CentHOGG> omucuvaca: are you going to PVR too?
[19:39] <seronis> after deleting that and upgrading to v3.0 problem solved
[19:39] <deus> magcius: install java?
[19:39] <Samushka> is there a way of taking my existing ubuntu installation, settings, custom applications and creating an installable cd out of it?
[19:40] <magcius> deus, I have Java installed
[19:40] <omucuvaca> donno yet...
[19:40] <joebodo> magcius try installing the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:40] <GLG20> magcius, install java plugin
[19:40] <dracnes1> erUSUL: well, thanks anyway
[19:40] <dhilip> hello does anyone know driver for Motorola mobile?
[19:40] <keystr0k> Anyone know of a way to forward email using RegEx? I don't think gmail allows this.
[19:40] <jimv2000> @dhilip what phone
[19:40] <magcius> GLG20, how do I do that?
[19:40] <omucuvaca> i just need a simple interface for my tv-tuner and videos/pictures, etc....no real OS...
[19:40] <dhilip> Moto Roker e8
[19:41] <magcius> gksudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin?
[19:41] <DelGurth> err.. with the java plugin.. running x86_64?
[19:41] <GLG20> magcius, correct.  But there is no 64-bit version
[19:41] <magcius> GLG20, that's fine...
[19:41] <Azzmodan> omucuvaca, maybe http://www.mythbuntu.org/
[19:41] <N0_Named_Guy> Hello folks, my Alt Gr key is not working at all... What can I do to make it work the way it should? I can't use characters that are only accesible via Alt Gr key combination. Thank you...
[19:41] <magcius> I guess I have to restart Firefox.
[19:41] <joebodo> magcius easiest way is to install the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:41] <N0_Named_Guy> Btw, using ubuntu 8.04
[19:41] <DelGurth> 64 bit java plugin will be released soon though according to the sun bug
[19:42] <magcius> joebodo, won't that also install things I don't need?
[19:42] <joebodo> magcius not sure what you need
[19:42] <omucuvaca> any deifference between mythtv and mythbuntu?
[19:42] <magcius> joebodo, just the Java plugin
[19:42] <magcius> omucuvaca, The official MythTV distro isn't based on Ubuntu
[19:43] <dhilip> hello need help for Motorola dirver
[19:43] <jimv2000> @dhilip:  here's some info that might help http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT8243331060.html
[19:43] <edmont> hi
[19:43] <joebodo> xmbc is a media center - havent tried it though
[19:43] <edmont> i dont have sound in the headphones since i upgraded to 8.10
[19:43] <dhilip> thanks Jim ill have a look
[19:43] <edmont> do you know how to solve it?
[19:44] <OddlotX4> How do I check which version of fglrx drivers I have?
[19:44] <dracnes1> erUSUL: I figured it out! I needed to run as sudo.
[19:44] <bakarat> anyone know an opensource alternative to "yEd diagram editor"?
[19:44] <soundstripe> having trouble booting the 8.10 CD...anyone want to help?
[19:44] <N0_Named_Guy> * bump *
[19:44] <N0_Named_Guy> Hello folks, my Alt Gr key is not working at all... What can I do to make it work the way it should? I can't use characters that are only accesible via Alt Gr key combination. Thank you...
[19:44] <GLG20> edmont, just a guess, but right-click the speaker icon and choose Open Volume Control and make sure headphone volume is turend up
[19:45] <N0_Named_Guy> bakarta, have you tried dia?
[19:45] <edmont> GLG20: is not that
[19:45] <N0_Named_Guy> bakarat, have you tried dia?
[19:45] <bakarat> N0_Named_Guy: ye, but it is not quite up to speed :D
[19:45] <GLG20> edmont, ok.  That's the extent of my knowledge :)
[19:45] <soundstripe> yeah....Dia is a very good diagram/chart maker
[19:45] <joebodo> !ask | soundstripe
[19:45] <edmont> GLG20: ok, thx :)
[19:45] <N0_Named_Guy> bakarat: ok :P
[19:45] <bakarat> soundstripe: N0_Named_Guy one of the prime features i'm looking for is nesting :D
[19:45] <jimv2000> @bakarat you could check out http://live.gnome.org/Dia
[19:45] <bakarat> dia does not have that afaik
[19:46] <dracnes1> erUSUL: It's working now, I forgot to run as root.
[19:46] <N0_Named_Guy> Besides dia, I don't know anymore :P Dia satisfies my needs :P
[19:46] <jimv2000> @bakarat nm
[19:46] <erUSUL> dracnes1: ok; congrats
[19:46] <jimv2000> didn't see the other posts
[19:46] <N0_Named_Guy> anyone, please help me!
[19:46] <erUSUL> dracnes1: there should be a tab for wifi connections
[19:46] <N0_Named_Guy> Hello folks, my Alt Gr key is not working at all... What can I do to make it work the way it should? I can't use characters that are only accesible via Alt Gr key combination. Thank you...
[19:46] <soundstripe> getting the following errors on boot from CD during "loading kernel drivers" squashfs error: sb_bread failed block 0x<address>
[19:46] <jimv2000> what is Alt Gr
[19:46] <dracnes1> erUSUL: eyah
[19:47] <N0_Named_Guy> Is a key existing in some non US keyboards
[19:47] <dracnes1> erUSUL:yeah*
[19:47] <jimv2000> Oh
[19:47] <N0_Named_Guy> usually next to the space
[19:47] <jimv2000> well then I cna't help ya
[19:47] <oddity801> Is anyone else having random lock ups from Update manager and pidgin since upgrading to 8.10?
[19:47] <Slart> N0_Named_Guy: there are some settings for the shift, alt, altgr keys in system, preferences, keyboard, layouts, other options..
[19:47] <magcius> joebodo, is there a way to forward my Speaker output to the Microphone in PulseAudio?
[19:47] <N0_Named_Guy> ok gonna check it Slart
[19:47] <Slart> oddity801: nothing like that here (64 bit ubuntu 8.10)
[19:47] <edmont> i dont have sound in the headphones since i upgraded to 8.10. I tryed to remove pulseaudio and install esound, but that way gnome wont start. My sound card is nVidia HDA, in a HP Pavilion laptop
[19:47] <joebodo> magcius not that i'm aware of
[19:48] <jimv2000> @edmont if you go into your sound settings and set it all for ALSA, do you get sound then?
[19:48] <FreeLinux> Hi
[19:48] <oddity801> Slart: I'm just lucky, then.  Thanks!
[19:48] <jimv2000> Hi freelinus
[19:48] <Slart> edmont: on my laptop I have one volume control for headphones and one for the speakers
[19:48] <jimv2000> *freelinux
[19:48] <jimv2000> lol
[19:48] <FreeLinux> Who install playonlinux he work?
[19:48] <edmont> jimv2000: nop
[19:48] <dracnes1> erUSUL: ok
[19:48] <jimv2000> @edmont well, that was all I had
[19:48] <jimv2000> :(
[19:49] <N0_Named_Guy> Slart, worx for me, thank you :-) After googling and research hours, this was right in front of my face :D Thanks man :)
[19:49] <centaur5> I have 4 computers and one of them updated the kernel on Intrepid today while the rest didn't. Why does one machine see new updates a day before the rest?
[19:49] <msandbu> hi! is there an app in ubuntu that can open rar files?
[19:49] <Slart> N0_Named_Guy: you're welcome
[19:49] <jimv2000> Does it have the proposed updates enabled?
[19:49] <Slart> !rar | msandbu
[19:49] <xukun> I'm having a hard time getting my logitech usb headset to get to work in ubuntu 8.10. I removed pulseaudio becouse of more sound problem, with alsa set in soud preferences I have sound not from the headset
 why i want play but wine not play my game
[19:50] <genii-around> centaur5: Conceivably you have -proposed enabled on that one
[19:50] <FreeLinux> and play on linux not work :(
[19:50] <xukun> sound ..
[19:50] <jimv2000> @FreeLinux sadly that happens a lot
[19:50] <dracnes1> erUSUL: now what?
[19:50] <jimv2000> @FreeLinux things pretty much either run under wine or they don't
[19:50] <erUSUL> centaur5: maybe one of the computers has proposed enabled (and it shouldn't is dangerous) there was a kernel update on proposed
[19:50] <jimv2000> !winedb
[19:50] <Slart> !appdb
[19:50] <jimv2000> ah!
[19:50] <Slart> =)
[19:50] <FreeLinux> he who play game "Morrowin" ?
[19:50] <erUSUL> dracnes1: is there any wireless network listed there?
[19:51] <jimv2000> lol, I love trying to guess what that thing will respond to
[19:51] <FreeLinux> Morrowind*
[19:51] <Miesco> FreeLinux: Go to http://www.winehq.com lookup your game, they have ways of getting some to work, also it will tell you which games do work
[19:51] <centaur5> thanks genii-around and erUSUL that is the case and I'm disabling it now.
[19:51] <dracnes1> erUSUL: no
[19:51] <counterdutch> j #ubuntu-nl
[19:51] <Slart> FreeLinux: I've played morrowing using wine.. but it was some time ago
[19:51] <erUSUL> dracnes1: :| try "Alt + f2" nm-applet
[19:52] <jimv2000> I switched to using the root account yesterday
[19:52] <jimv2000> I feel oddly manly
[19:53] <jimv2000> and I had twice as much chest hair this morning
[19:53] <jimv2000> kinda odd
[19:53] <soundstripe> trying to boot 8.10 from CD--during "loading kernel drivers" i get squashfs error: sb_bread failed block 0x<address>
[19:54] <Slart> soundstripe: have you checked the cd for errors
[19:54] <dracnes1> erUSUL: nm-applet won't start. should I add a network?
[19:54] <soundstripe> slart: yes
[19:54] <erUSUL> dracnes1: i do not know why nm is failing for you...
[19:54] <soundstripe> also tried "noacpi pci-routirq all-generic-ide"
[19:55] <erUSUL> dracnes1: try scanning for wireless networks via terminal "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan"
[19:55] <jimv2000> @soundstripe https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5246
[19:55] <jimv2000> he tried this option: ide=nodma
[19:55] <joebodo> soundstripe may be a problem with the cd you created
[19:56] <dracnes1>  erUSUL: ok, it found my home wireless system
[19:57] <soundstripe> no problem with my cd -- burned at 4x, passed md5, passed integrity check
[19:57] <soundstripe> @jimv2000 thanks i'll try disabling dma
[19:57] <erUSUL> dracnes1: so the problem is network manager... :|
[19:58] <Cmclean> Hi I have a minor prob. The bottom panel on 8.10 covers up part of the screen... So instead of Firefox stopping on top of the panel it continues behind it... So i lose the loading bar and such and I kinda want em back... Like right now I'm typing behind the bar and can't see anything. PM me cause like there are so many people talking I'll probably not see...
[19:58] <jimv2000> that's kind odd
[19:58] <Cmclean> ንቭብንቭብን
[19:58] <jimv2000> @CmClean I'd just remove it and re-add it.
[19:59] <Cmclean> the who;e panel?
[19:59] <jimv2000> yeah, it's not too hard
[19:59] <Cmclean> kk trying now
[19:59] <imme-emosol> Hi, how can I make Ubuntu have multiple desktops over multiple screens(from the same computer)?
[19:59] <dracnes1> erUSUL: should I try adding a network in nm-connection-editor?
[20:00] <madsj> joebodo: thanks; I think I erased some settings in my .Xdefaults by accident ... this is most likely the cause!
[20:00] <erUSUL> dracnes1: yep
[20:00] <erUSUL> dracnes1: it should be autmatic but somehow s failing in your case
[20:00] <dracnes1> erUSUL: how do I go about that?
[20:00] <jimv2000> @imme-emosol:  you need a video card with multiple heads (spots to connect a monitor to)
[20:01] <Slart> !dual | imme-emosol
[20:01] <xenophan> hello is this an german speaking channel
[20:01] <Slart> !twinview
[20:01] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: I've got my laptop, w/ a vga output as well.
[20:01] <jimv2000> lol, that's not much info about twinview
[20:01] <erUSUL> dracnes1: use the add button in nm-connection-editor.
[20:01] <imme-emosol> Slart: twinview gives me pone big virtual desktop right?
[20:01] <bandaLarga> hi there! my problem: i have an internet point, by popular demand i had to install windoz :(, now, i've made an image of a working windows partition (dd), made place with gparted, added grub entry but windows doesn't boot, any idea?
[20:01] <jimv2000> @imme-emosol then you should just need to connect the monitor and push the button on your keyboard to activate your VGA output
[20:01] <Slart> imme-emosol: I think it's configurable.. never used it though
[20:02] <xenophan> is sombody here who knows something about port forwarding
[20:02] <jimv2000> TwinView can do either one bit desktop or two desktops
[20:02] <jimv2000> @xenophan what are you trying to do
[20:02] <dracnes1> erUSUL: naurally, but it asks for the SSID, BSSID and Mac address I'm not sure what to put there
[20:02] <my_other_compute> quick question, is there a font browser for Ubuntu in which I can look through my fonts currently installed?
[20:02] <erUSUL> dracnes1: well the ssid and mac adress are listed in the scan output iirc
[20:03] <Slart> my_other_compute: waterfall will give you a sample for one font.. not sure if there is one that will do several
[20:03] <erUSUL> dracnes1: in ssid put the essid
[20:03] <llanto_subterran> Did anybody else get a request for an update libpam-update, libpam-modules
[20:03] <erUSUL> dracnes1: i think that the bssid can be empty
[20:04] <dracnes1> erUSUL: ok
[20:04] <lat> Are there any problems when updating to 8.10?
[20:04] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: Just pushing the button does not work.
[20:04] <imme-emosol> I use 8.10 ...
[20:04] <joebodo> my_other_comput xfontsel
[20:04] <Slart> lat: depends on who you're asking.. it went without problems for me
[20:04] <Hikefu>  my_other_compute, maybe specimen
[20:05] <bandaLarga> my problem:  i've made an image of a working windows partition (dd from another identical pc), made room with gparted on target pc, added grub entry but windows doesn't boot, any idea?
[20:05] <jimv2000> @imme-emosol what's your video card?
[20:05] <dracnes1> erUSUL: It's working! thanks for all your help.
[20:05] <erUSUL> dracnes1: no problem
[20:05] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: Intel GMA X3100 I believe.
[20:05] <ohdamnallnics> anyone here run e17? how do i view my windows shares on e17?
[20:05] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: Lenovo R61i
[20:06] <jimv2000> oh, hold on...i helped someoen with this on the forum, but i need to find the link i gave them
[20:06] <magcius> joebodo, vyew is schweet
[20:06] <joebodo> magcius good to hear - i only tested it once but it looks promising
[20:07] <ArrPirate> I tried installed Avant-Window-Navigator using a tutorial and it messed up so I just deleted it... and I tried installing it through the repositories and now I get the following error:
[20:07] <my_other_compute> I can't believe I just accidentally restarted my X
[20:07] <magcius> joebodo, very...
[20:07] <ArrPirate> avant-window-navigator: symbol lookup error: avant-window-navigator: undefined symbol: awn_vfs_init
[20:07] <ohdamnallnics> ArrPirate, use Cairo Dock SOOO much better
[20:07] <ArrPirate> can someone help me fix this?
[20:07] <sinan1> anyone can provide a tutorial/link to help me get ubuntu running with a 2.4 linux kernel ? :)
[20:07] <jimv2000> @imme: http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=850789#6
[20:07] <ArrPirate> cairo dock?
[20:07] <ohdamnallnics> yeah, its a lot nicer
[20:07] <lat> Slart, thanks!
[20:07] <magcius> Just curious, is there a roadmap yet for GNOME/GTK 3?
[20:08] <ArrPirate> is it in the repository or can you give me a link, ohdamnallnics
[20:08] <ArrPirate> ?
[20:08] <jrib> magcius: this isn't really the right channel.  Check live.gnome.org or ask in a gnome channel
[20:08] <magcius> jrib, thanks
[20:08] <ohdamnallnics> ArrPirate, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[20:08] <ohdamnallnics> should be everything you need
[20:10] <bandaLarga> !grub
[20:10] <my_other_compute> Slart: waterfall is good thanks
[20:11] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: So, then it's working, already had that...
[20:11] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: I'd like this big virtual desktop(divided over multiple monitors) to be split in half...
[20:11] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: Impossible? :S
[20:12] <jimv2000> So like two different desktops
[20:12] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: yup
[20:12] <jimv2000> i'll bet there's a command to make xrandr do it...lemme see
[20:13] <tetsuo-shima> When I run Ubuntu 8.10, I get an error message to the effect of "Error: MP-BIOS 8254 timer for IO-APIC". I have no control over my acpi settings and my fan runs like a jet engine. Can anyone help?
[20:13] <rw_> hi, I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 and flash 10. I've just install the Midori browser but flash doesn't appear to work with it. Any help?
[20:13] <fryguy> I just upgraded to 8.10 and my second monitor won't turn on anymore.  ATI Radeon graphics card, restored my existing xorg.conf that I backed up, with no effect.  I'm also stuck at 800x600 resolution.  What can I do?
[20:13] <aho_> fryguy: you probably need to reinstall the fglrx drivers
[20:14] <aho_> depending on how you had them installed before, you'll neeed to compile the kernel module for your new kernel version
[20:14] <aho_> and probably the new flgrx X module compiled agianst the new version of X
[20:14] <fryguy> aho_: fglrx drivers are listed as activated in the restricted drivers manager
[20:14] <aho_> (if that makes any sense at all to you)
[20:14] <fryguy> aho_: and no errors occur in Xorg.log
[20:14] <aho_> what about amdcccle ?
[20:15] <Soopa> how do i mount a different PC on my network?  and how can i get it to mount whenever i log in?
[20:15] <fryguy> aho_: ccc is installed, nothing happens when I run it though
[20:16] <Soopa> i.e. i want to copy files between two computers
[20:16] <aho_> well that indicates that the drive isn't functioning properly
[20:16] <aurel42> Howdy, on Intrepid, using proprietary Nvidia drivers, flashplugin-nonfree, libflashsupport and pulseaudio, Flash videos are "stuttering" (YouTube, and everywhere else) (only video, no audio stutter). Bandwidth isn't the problem. Is this a known problem, and is there a workaround or fix?
[20:16] <aho_> *driver
[20:16] <fryguy> aho_: restricted drivers manager and Xorg.log suggest otherwise
[20:16] <fuxxy> I'm considering installing Ubuntu 8.10 on my C2D T8100 laptop. Should I use the generic i386 install or can I use the AMD64 version?
[20:16] <RolfCoptr> aurel42: i got that whn i use compiz
[20:16] <bakarat> i need a diagram editor that allows custom icons, connectors, grouping & nesting and exports (or natively saves) to XML format
[20:17] <aho_> well if they were working properly, amdcccle would at least start.
[20:17] <bakarat> anyone know one?
[20:17] <fryguy> aho_: so what should I do
[20:17] <aho_> what does fglrxinfo give you ?
[20:17] <aurel42> RolfCoptr: indeed, I'm using Compiz.
[20:17] <soundstripe> ide=nodma did not fix my squashfs problems....am about to try mini.iso, then go back to 8.04 if that doesn't work
[20:17] <fuxxy> soopa, check out NFS, or sshfs
[20:17] <imme-emosol> bakarat: dia ?
[20:17] <Soopa> okay, thanks fuxxy
[20:17] <aho_> fryguy: fglrxinfo ?
[20:17] <bakarat> imme-emosol: it has almost all of the above, except one thing -> nesting
[20:17] <bakarat> imme-emosol: which i really need :>
[20:17] <fuxxy> Soopa: sshfs uses the ssh server built into the machines already, possibly the better option for what you're trying to accomplish.
[20:18] <fryguy> aho_: shows correct information, opengl is ati, renderer is ati radeon 2400 XT
[20:18] <fuxxy> Soopa: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/how-to-mount-a-remote-folder-using-ssh-on-ubuntu/
[20:18] <Soopa> fuxxy: awesome, thanks!
[20:18] <imme-emosol> bakarat: What does nesting do?
[20:18] <bakarat> imme-emosol: allow an element to contain other elements
[20:18] <imme-emosol> bakarat: And what are you planning to use it on?
[20:19] <bakarat> imme-emosol: ...diagrams obviously ;)
[20:19] <slayton> I'm trying to install 8.04 but the liveCD boots to initramfs, what can I do? Help!
[20:19] <aho_> fryguy: can you post your Xorg.0.log on paste.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <imme-emosol> bakarat: Yes, well, I thought maybe UML-diagrams or something like that...
[20:19] <aho_> maybe we can find something there
[20:19] <bakarat> imme-emosol: ah no, custom diagrams
[20:19] <aurel42> RolfCoptr: do you happen to know whether disabling "Visual effects" is enough to get rid of Compiz?
[20:20] <RolfCoptr> aurel42: you should be fine if you use plain metacity instead of compiz
[20:20] <RolfCoptr> but that's no soluition for me
[20:20] <RolfCoptr> i want both working
[20:20] <aurel42> I got kinda used to Compiz, I really like it a lot.
[20:21] <hosler> Anyone want to go in on a cheap VPS server?
[20:21] <quagga> you can't afford your own vps?
[20:21] <slayton> Does anybody know why my live cd only boots to (initramfs)?
[20:21] <jin_> how to make an installation DVD out of my current system?
[20:22] <strange> hey guys i keep getting kernel panic 4 mins after boot
[20:22] <hosler> i can, but a whole vps is more computing power than i need. so i wanted to know if anyone wanted to share
[20:22] <Pici> hosler: This is a support channel, and thats really an offtopic subject, perhaps try #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <balachmar> how can I see which programs are using memory as cache and how much?
[20:22] <strange> how do i backtrace the cause?
[20:22] <slayton> balachmar, htop
[20:22] <joebodo> !offtopic
[20:22] <slayton> balachmar, install it with: sudo apt-get install htop then run it from the terminal
[20:22] <hosler> ok then
[20:22] <fryguy> aho_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/70663/
[20:22] <hosler> What would be the difference between a Ubuntu vps and a Debian Vps, or is there one?
[20:23] <q0s> where can i get the correct ./configure settings which were used from the package creators for libgtk2.0-0?
[20:23] <fryguy> hosler: one runs ubuntu, one runs debian.  they are different operating systems
[20:23] <scientes> apt-cdrom sucks
[20:23] <scientes> it wont friggen work if you add a mounted cdrom iso
[20:23] <hosler> fryguy: isnt ubuntu derived from debian?
[20:23] <OrangeMechanique> has anyone have tried to customize a ubuntu installation cd with preseed?
[20:23] <name_name> hey #ubuntu I put two new hard drives in my machine today and formated them to HPFS/NTFS with the "cfdisk" command then they show up in "fdisk -l" as thishttp://pastebin.com/m9b21205 which looks normal compared to the other filesystems, but when I try "mount /dev/sda1 /media/mountpoint" it says it needs the filesystem type. so I do "mount -t ntfs /media/blah" then it says it's not a valid...
[20:23] <name_name> ...ntfs, wtf?
[20:23] <fryguy> hosler: yes. "derived from" doesn't mean "the same as"
[20:23] <balachmar> @slayton and then which column specifies the cache use?
[20:23] <name_name> what am I doing wrong?
[20:24] <bandaLarga> my problem:  i've made an image of a working windows partition (dd from another identical pc), made room with gparted on target pc, added grub entry but windows doesn't boot, any idea?
[20:24] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: No such option, right?
[20:24] <scientes> it wont friggen work if you add a mounted cdrom iso --supposedly i have to comfigure Acquire::cdrom::mount. whereever that is
[20:24] <name_name> http://pastebin.com/m9b21205  that's the link
[20:24] <hosler> fryguy: ok then. what are the differences then? as far as a LAMP server would go.
[20:24] <slayton> balachmar, mem%
[20:24] <scientes> seriously wtf
[20:24] <fryguy> hosler: different packages for everything
[20:25] <OrangeMechanique> ive been trying a install cd customization documentation from the ubuntu site, but I have an error when it tries to install an extra package but there is no feedback on which error is it
[20:25] <hosler> fryguy: thats it? just newer packages?
[20:25] <joebodo> hosler you may have more luck in ubuntu-offtopic
[20:25] <fryguy> hosler: not necessarily newer
[20:25] <fuxxy> name_name: looks like you've got yourself two NTFS partitions there.
[20:25] <TheShadow> I need to see the version information of a package (not the package version but the version of the contents within) any ideas?
[20:26] <fryguy> TheShadow: apt-src the package and inspect the contents
[20:26] <name_name> fuxxy: I'm having trouble mounting them
[20:26] <balachmar> @slayton: but there are 20 references to firefox there all eating 7% of my ram, that can't be correct. Also htop says 25% memory is used although the system monitor applet says that another 70% is in use as cache
[20:26] <Hikefu> does anyone know of a really powerful linux scientific calculator?
[20:26] <fryguy> Hikefu: bc
[20:26] <hosler> fryguy: lets put it this way. I have used a debian server for a long time. how uncomfortable will i be if i switch to ubuntu?
[20:26] <slayton> balachmar, each firefox process is sharing that 7%
[20:26] <TheShadow> fryguy: I know there is a simpler way.
[20:26] <fryguy> hosler: not at all
[20:26] <name_name> fuxxy: "mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /media/point" says fail
[20:26] <fuxxy> name_name: make sure NTFS support (read only) in in your kernel, the mount via 'mount -t ntfs /dev/somewhere /mnt/to/something"
[20:26] <jin_> how to make an installation DVD out of my current system?
[20:26] <hosler> fryguy: ok thanks
[20:26] <balachmar> @Hikefu octave, although that is more like matlab
[20:26] <TheShadow> fryguy: I've done it before
[20:26] <slayton> balachmar, sorry don't know too much more
[20:26] <fryguy> TheShadow: if you know of a simpler way, then do that.  Thanks :)
[20:27] <balachmar> @slayton: I assumed so, ok thanks for the tip though htop >>> top
[20:27] <Hikefu> Wow, I like chickens too!
[20:27] <fryguy> aho_: here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/70663/
[20:27] <slayton> Hikefu not funny
[20:27] <slayton> Hikefu, don't feed the trolls
[20:28] <hosler> i guess he likes cocks
[20:28] <Hikefu> slayton, yes sir. You're right.
[20:28] <OrangeMechanique> has anyone have tried to customize a ubuntu installation cd with preseed?
[20:28] <Pici> !feedthetroll
[20:28] <Rumi> Hi everyone !
[20:28] <Pici> Hi!
[20:28] <fuxxy> name_name: do "exec -o cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep NTFS
[20:28] <fuxxy> "
[20:29] <joebodo> !Hi | pici
[20:29] <kremsner> hy there, got some problems with ralink Wlan driver (rt2790) anyone got that one?
[20:29] <Rumi> I wanna ask a question, my glxgears arnt working, what should i do ??/
[20:29] <fryguy> I just upgraded to 8.10 and my second monitor won't turn on anymore.  ATI Radeon graphics card, restored my existing xorg.conf that I backed up, with no effect.  I'm also stuck at 800x600 resolution.  What can I do?
[20:29] <nonpayer> hy
[20:29] <hosler> How stable would a Ubuntu 64bit lamp server be compared to a 32bit one?
[20:29] <joebodo> fryguy try the ati control center (amdcccle)
[20:29] <name_name> fuxxy: I have 3 other hard drives that are HPFS/NTFS and they work fine, r/w etc. so I think the kernal can handle that file system type
[20:30] <fryguy> joebodo: it runs but nothing happens
[20:30] <balachmar> hosler: Why would it be less stable?
[20:30] <kremsner> hy there, got some problems with ralink Wlan driver (rt2790) anyone got that one?
[20:30] <Rumi> I wanna ask a question, my glxgears arnt working, what should i do ??
[20:30] <hosler> balachmar: because 64bit software is relatively newer than 32bit code
[20:30] <joebodo> fryguy are you using the restricted driver ?
[20:30] <Hikefu> fryguy, if you used fglrx in Hardy, I don't think you have a fix available. It's broken in Intrepid because of incompatibility with the new xorg 7.4 I think.
[20:30] <gavi> folks, if i install webmin, will it interfear with my current installation of vhcs?
[20:30] <balachmar> hosler: I am using 64 ubuntu normally and I haven't had problems with it, but that is no guarentee
[20:31] <fryguy> Hikefu: so I can't use ubuntu anymore? and the upgrade hosed my installation?
[20:31] <joebodo> !webmin
[20:31] <fryguy> joebodo: yes
[20:31] <hosler> balachmar: every new chipset they have to rewrite the whole STL, i think
[20:31] <balachmar> hosler: If you don't need $GB or more, then I should for the 32 bit version anyway.
[20:31] <Hikefu> I had issues, fortunately, the ati drivers worked okay with my install. a lot of people have to downgrade to xorg 7.3.
[20:31] <balachmar> $GB = 4GB
[20:31] <Hikefu> fryguy, I don't know how to do that, but you can google it.
[20:32] <nonpayer> I installed new version of Ubuntu bat my DSL connection dont working. In previous version of Ubuntu was all ok. I have DSL router connected with Ethernet cabel.
[20:32] <rbd> hi guys. we have employees that will have linux workstations. at this point we're looking at either hosting their home directories on a office fileserver using NFS, or having the homedirs local, and using amanda to back them up frequently (1 or 2x a day). We've had speed issues in the past with NFS, so that's why we're looking at the backup route...however on the backup side, some work could be lost if the drive died before the backup
[20:32] <joebodo> fryguy does administration->hardware drivers offer a different driver ?
[20:32] <Rumi> I am not being able to get any visual effects that i was getting, what should i do
[20:32] <strange> can someone tell me how to trace where a crash comes from
[20:32] <fryguy> joebodo: i don't run gnome anymore because of other issues, do you know the command that brings up that menu
[20:32] <strange> my box dies every 2 minutes
[20:33] <joebodo> fryguy i believe it's jockey-gtk
[20:33] <lavacano201014> strange: Possibly a startup process?
[20:33] <lavacano201014> Hardware about to go, perhaps?
[20:33] <joebodo> fryguy you may want to google jockey for more help
[20:33] <strange> no
[20:33] <strange> it starts normally
[20:33] <strange> im on it now
[20:33] <strange> but it iwll die in a few minutes
[20:33] <strange> only thing open is a ssh session
[20:33] <fryguy> joebodo: it shows the FGLRX driver as correctly activated and in use, at the latest version
[20:33] <Rumi> hey how do we uninstall ATIbinary X.org driver ???
[20:33] <lavacano201014> strange: Have you tried just leaving it alone for a few days?
[20:33] <hosler> Gentoo rocks
[20:33] <[[thufir]]> I ran xkill, but there's a remnant remaining on the scree "click on a window to force the application to quit.", except it's just a window "remnant".  how can I "repaint" the desktop to fix that?  the equivalent command for running explorer.exe?
[20:33] <fuxxy> name_name: try `blkid /dev/sda1`, `blkid /dev/sdb1`
[20:33] <joebodo> !fryguy | ati
[20:33] <balachmar> strange: did you have a look at the logs? in /var/log ?
[20:34] <strange> no it just started happening an hour ago
[20:34] <joebodo> !ati +| fryguy
[20:34] <Rumi> hey how do we uninstall 'ATI binary X.org driver' ???
[20:34] <strange> ah let me do so
[20:34] <joebodo> !ati | fryguy
[20:34] <strange> which log?
[20:34] <name_name> fuxxy: it looks like 'mkfs.ntfs" will do it
[20:34] <balachmar> strange:
[20:34] <fryguy> joebodo: i've read the documentation on fglrx.  it's correctly installed and running according to restricted drivers manager and Xorg.log
[20:34] <lavacano201014> [[thufir]]: Depends on which desktop environment you're using
[20:34] <balachmar> strange: messages is a good place to start or kernel
[20:34] <fuxxy> name_name: be careful with that, last I read, linux and NTFS write support doesn't get along all the time.
[20:35] <joebodo> !fryguy you might want to try the aticonfig utility
[20:35] <[[thufir]]> lavacano201014: GNOME
[20:35] <fuxxy> name_name: but the filesystem needing to be fscked will keep you from mounting.
[20:35] <hosler> !gentoo
[20:35] <joebodo> fryguy you might want to try the aticonfig utility
[20:35] <lavacano201014> [[thufir]]: One moment, let me find the right signals here
[20:35] <fryguy> joebodo: the aticonfig utility gives me the same configuration as what I have now (it's what I used to generate my config back in 8.04).  No effect.
[20:36] <fuxxy> hosler: #gentoo :)
[20:36] <dubby> hey anyone, I am having a problem with my vpn, i have no idea what is going wrong with it, I have a copy of syslog, and everything looks good till line 39 http://pastebin.com/d79a59b87
[20:36] <dubby> can anyone tell me whats goin on?
[20:36] <dubby> if its my server or my client
[20:36] <xukun> how can I cd to a directory which looks like this: /media/FREECOM\ HDD?
[20:36] <PeanutScape> Hey everyone. Does anyone know how to get iTunes (or something that looks like that) running on ubuntu?
[20:36] <[[thufir]]> PeanutScape: atunes
[20:36] <name_name> fuxxy: http://pastebin.com/m3527f901 I have those and they work fine
[20:37] <[[thufir]]> PeanutScape: or gtkmod for managing ipods
[20:37] <Rumi> hey how do we uninstall 'ATI binary X.org driver' ???
[20:37] <PeanutScape> thx [[thufir]]
[20:37] <name_name> different harddrives then the ones I'm having trouble with
[20:37] <name_name> I have 6 in the machine
[20:37] <Rumi> plz tell me !!
[20:37] <fryguy> !Players | PeanutScape
[20:37] <lavacano201014> [[thufir]]: I can't find the signal for a straight restarting of the process
[20:37] <swaj> xukun: you can put the name in quotes, like cd "/media/FEECOM HDD"
[20:37] <joebodo> xukun you may have to use two slashes for the \ like /media/FREECOM\\HDD
[20:37] <lavacano201014> and I'm not sure what the gnome desktop binary is called
[20:37] <RenzoreK> Is there anyway to remove the Ibex Kubuntu desktop?  Only stupid answers!
[20:38] <joebodo> OddlotX chmod +x <filename> to give it execute priviliges
[20:38] <uvacav> anyone ever made their own gtk theme and happen to know how to change the colors for panels (like workplace switcher, specifically)
[20:38] <Minty95> so very true
[20:38] <swaj> OddlotX4: open a terminal and just type it's name.. for example "/media/blah.run" -- or if there are no execute permissions on the file, you can usually do "sh /media/blah.run"
[20:39] <OddlotX4> Thanks swaj.
[20:39] <fuxxy> Wild guess right now is that you are using PAP/CHAP authentication and the peer is not accepting your credentials.
[20:39] <fuxxy> or the speed of your COM port is too high.
[20:39] <swaj> OddlotX4: np
[20:40] <Kinote> Anyone know why an Ubuntu install would fail at 58% every time, even if the disc has been verified as fine by four different computers?
[20:40] <lavacano201014> Kinote: Bad hard drive maybe?
[20:40] <dubby> Kinote, what error does it give?
[20:40] <RenzoreK> Kinote: Does it fail on all computers or just one?
[20:41] <Kinote> I have one failing drive, but I'm installing to a different one. Trying to drag some data off it.
[20:41] <Rumi> plz help me someone !!
[20:41] <Kinote> Only tried it on one.
[20:41] <OddlotX4> "unknown id: blah.run"(I didn't actually put blah.run in there)
[20:41] <joebodo> Kinote i believe there is a verbose mode for install
[20:41] <Kinote> Bad disk, disc, or drive, for the error.
[20:41] <OddlotX4> Ah, figured it out.
[20:42] <swaj> OddlotX4: try doing a "chmod +x /media/blah.run" first, and then run it just by calling it by name
[20:42] <lavacano201014> Kinote: Yep. Dead drive.
[20:42] <joebodo> Kinote does it list which drive ?
[20:42] <Kinote> It would kill the install on other drives as well?
[20:42] <Kinote> Nope. No specifics.
[20:42] <lavacano201014> Kinote: Only if your CD drive is messed up.
[20:42] <uvacav> Kinote: maybe you don't have a bad drive, maybe you have bad cable or mainboard
[20:42] <fuxxy> Kinote: remove the old failing drive during the install.
[20:42] <xukun> swaj, joebodo I found what it is. the op place is a space like this: cd /media/FREECOM'\space'HDD its works put/media/FREECOM\ HDD <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async) in /etc/exports and restart the nfs server with "sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart" I get this error: exportfs: Warning: /media/FREECOM\ does not exist
[20:42] <OddlotX4> "Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.27-7-generic;"
[20:43] <xukun> the Open place ..
[20:43] <Kinote> I just unplugged the failing drive and started another install to see what would happen, 58% is coming up pretty quick so we'll see what happens.
[20:43] <lavacano201014> uvacav: I've only been up a couple of hours, that would have come to me in time...
[20:43] <lavacano201014> uvacav: But thanks for reminding me. :-)
[20:44] <Kinote> The Ubuntu LiveCD didn't want to run on my CD ROM either, it loves my DVD ROM for some reason though. Failing CDROM and a failing HD. What a lovely day.
[20:44] <swaj> !Synaptic > swaj
[20:44] <swaj> !synaptic > Rumi
[20:44] <sybarite1> good evening, anyone here running an Asus EEE ?
[20:44] <Dominik314> Kinote: sorry I hope you haven't lost any data
[20:44] <lavacano201014> Kinote: Did you burn the DVD version of the LiveCD?
[20:44] <joebodo> sybarite1 yes
[20:44] <Kinote> Yeah, me too.
[20:44] <Kinote> Nope. CD.
[20:44] <lavacano201014> Hmm.
[20:45] <maxxist> anyone know if there is a wine channel on freenode?
[20:45] <sybarite1> joebodo: mine has XP installed, but i do have a live distro on USB (ubuntu that is) .... do you know if the WLAN card will need a lot of special care and attention to work ?
[20:45] <lavacano201014> maxxist: #wine, I'm thinkin'
[20:45] <maxxist> no thanx.  its winehq
[20:45] <lavacano201014> I vas close
[20:45] <Hideme> any idea why I get a duplicate eth2 with default settings after I reboot?
[20:45] <joebodo> sybarite1 you may want to use the eee ubuntu distro - with the eee distro, you wont have issues with hardware
[20:46] <lavacano201014> Hideme: You have TWO eth2's?
[20:46] <joebodo> sybarite1 http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/
[20:46] <tovella> maxxist: #winehq
[20:46] <sybarite1> joebodo: i know... its just that i'm sitting in a cafe right now and would like to try it.  When X starts up and I goto TTY(1-6) the font and background are too dark even when changing them with setterm. What do I do?
[20:47] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Maybe it's some internal hardware that Ubuntu is getting confused about
[20:47] <sybarite1> joebodo: i have seen instructions for the wlan card, but i'm unsure if all that is necessary. if it is, i will have a problem since i cant download stuff and... well eventually Catch 22 will get me
[20:47] <amee2k> something is changing my cpufreq governor setting back to 'ondemand' whenever i plug in my AC adapter. how can i find out what is doing this / disable it ?
[20:47] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Or maybe it goes "wireless, wired ethernet, modem"?
[20:47] <lavacano201014> Doubt it
[20:47] <Hideme> lavacano201014:  No idea.... thus my presence here.  :)
[20:48] <ConstantineXVI> is the Empathy that ships in ubuntu compiled with jingle?
[20:48] <Kinote> My install made it past 58% after unplugging the suspected failing drive. Woo!
[20:48] <OrangeMechanique> has anyone have tried to customize a ubuntu installation cd with preseed?
[20:48] <fryguy> I just upgraded to 8.10 and my second monitor won't turn on anymore.  ATI Radeon graphics card, restored my existing xorg.conf that I backed up, with no effect.  I'm also stuck at 800x600 resolution.  What can I do?
[20:49] <lavacano201014> Hideme: "ls /dev | grep eth | less" and pastebin the results.
[20:49] <sybarite1> OrangeMechanique: whats preseed?
[20:49] <[[thufir]]> lavacano201014:  thanks, I'm trying:  killall -HUP gnome-desktop
[20:49] <DelGurth> oh.. stupid question perhaps... how do I make a thread on the ubuntu forums show [CLOSED]? Since editing the title doesn't do the trick it seems
[20:49] <lavacano201014> [[thufir]]: No prob, forgot I told you that. heh
[20:49] <Kinote> Now, who knows how to recover data of a drive failing that badly?
[20:49] <norman_x> hi out there. I have Ubuntu 8.10. I cannot print with openoffice. printer no 1 is a postscript laserprinter. prints with other programs, but not with openoffice. printer 2 is a canon inkprinter. this one prints with all programs, including open office. anybody here has any ideas how to get the laserprinter working with openoffice?
[20:49] <DelGurth> err.. [CLOSED] == [SOLVED]
[20:49] <[[thufir]]> gnome-desktop: no process killed.  shall I have to logout and login?
[20:50] <OrangeMechanique> sybaritel, it is some files that can be used to provide some direct and automatic input in the installation
[20:50] <Hideme> lavacano201014:  Mmmm nothing.
[20:50] <ikonia> Kinote: I thought we talked about this yesterday
[20:50] <lavacano201014> [[thufir]]: That'd probable work
[20:50] <sybarite1> OrangeMechanique: okay
[20:50] <joebodo> thufir you could do control-alt-backspace to restart X
[20:50] <lavacano201014> Hideme: So, when it tries to list the contents of /dev, no eth devices appear...
[20:50] <natbet> does anyone know why firefox locks up of there is more than 2 firefox windows open?
[20:50] <Kinote> We did. Same problem, new step.
[20:50] <OrangeMechanique> sybaritel, actually (as far as I understood), with preseed I can add more packages and I can also skip a part of the install where the user would put something, by pre seeding this something in a file
[20:50] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Either something's VERY wrong or it wants root access...try with sudo
[20:51] <thebishop> firefox isn't saving the quick bookmarks... what am I doing wrong?!
[20:51] <Hideme> lavacano201014:   I did... same result.
[20:51] <lavacano201014> Hideme: That's really oddd
[20:51] <OrangeMechanique> sybaritel, but Ive tried following a ubuntu help to do it and it didnt work... The problem is that I could not get much debug information
[20:51] <lavacano201014> Hmm, maybe grep just refuses to work with ls
[20:52] <Dominik314> my system fails to run when I open firefox, what can be wrong? I already increased the swap partition, but still no luck
[20:52] <sybarite1> OrangeMechanique: this is not the same as mastering your own ubuntu distro?
[20:52] <lavacano201014> Because I'm getting the same stuff, and I know everything here is fine
[20:52] <Hideme> lavacano201014:  One thing to note is I did an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10.  A few others were complaining of this duplicate interface issue too.
[20:52] <boozkachu> Hi has anyone else had problems with skype or camerorama screwing up quickcam_messenger and /dev/video0 ?
[20:52] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Ah. I should probably check to see if it happened to me
[20:52] <FloridaGuy> just upgraded 7.10 to 8.04....now its telling me system uptodate..wont let me upgrade to 8.10
[20:52] <OrangeMechanique> sybarite1, I dunno what is mastering the own distro =)
[20:53] <joebodo> FloridaGuy give update-manager -d a try
[20:53] <heret1c> 'lo
[20:53] <Hideme> lavacano201014:   I'm in /dev , see nothing related to ethX.
[20:53] <deus> It is possible to use the iptables to redirect http traffic to a proxy server, for example by using iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i br0 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination <ip proxy>:3128 But how does the proxy server know which site he has to lookup since the destination is changed to its own address?
[20:53] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Hmm, Batman.
[20:54] <FloridaGuy> joebodo, sudu update-manager -d   ?
[20:54] <joebodo> FloridayGuy yeah
[20:54] <natbet> Hideme: ethX isn't kept in /dev, what are you trying to do?
[20:54] <D3RGPS31> After X starts, TTYs' colours are too dark to read, how do I change this?
[20:54] <Mecha25> CheckInstall help anyone?  trying to build a deb of Banshee from the SVN source
[20:54] <OddlotX4> Anyone know the list of fully supported nVidia video cards?
[20:54] <bandaLarga> when i try to load windows using grub i freezes saying "Loading..." i definetly need help (!grub doesn't work :()
[20:55] <lavacano201014> natbet: My fault, was trying to see if he had an extra ethX in his device files
[20:55] <Pelo> Mecha25, better ask in the banshee channel
[20:55] <joebodo> !grub
[20:55] <Mecha25> pelo: thanks
[20:55] <DelGurth> deus: doesn't a proxy server use the HTTP information itself to see where it needs to redirect to?
[20:55] <FloridaGuy> joebodo, ok  worked..thanks
[20:55] <natbet> lavacano201014: ok
[20:55] <joebodo> FloridaGuy no problem
[20:55] <lavacano201014> natbet: But he's getting an extra eth2 someplace, and it's one o' dem upgrade quirks
[20:55] <Hideme> netbet  everytime I reboot my machine, a duplicate eth2 interface is detected and set-up with default options (DHCP). the REAL eth2 is set not to.
[20:55] <deus> DelGurth: no idea, might be possible indeed that it uses the GET information
[20:55] <bandaLarga> joebodo: (like i said) i knew those guides but they doesn't help
[20:56] <norman_x> openoffice printing problem with Ubuntu 8.10 - help anyone?
[20:56] <lavacano201014> What's interesting for me is when I check /etc/network/interfaces and only get the lo inferface
[20:56] <lavacano201014> Does Ubuntu store it someplace else?
[20:56] <natbet> Hideme: what is in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[20:56] <Hideme> lavacano201014:  I think so...   see what you get with an ifconfig
[20:57] <lavacano201014> Hideme: Yep, eth0 is showing up fine
[20:57] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: I think I'll just go about with some xorg.conf tweaking some time...
[20:57] <imme-emosol> jimv2000: Anyway, thanks for the help.
[20:58] <Hideme> natbet:   just the loopback.    If I run an ifconfig I see all interfaces I should have (eth0, 1 and 2.
[20:58] <thebishop> Firefox bookmarks aren't saving.
[20:58] <kulight> any experts on RDP from ubuntu to windows ?
[20:58] <default>
[20:59] <natbet> Hideme: are you using network manager to manage your network interfaces? and what are your interfaces?
[20:59] <Hideme> natbet:  Apparently 8.10 doesn't like when you manually edit the network config. Found that out the hard way and started using the network manager GUI.
[20:59] <Hideme> natbet:  yes.  Eth0, eth1 and eth2.
[21:00] <natbet> Hideme: no, the network manager is just finiky, I usually uninstall it right off the bat :)
[21:00] <natbet> Hideme: all three are ethernet connections?
[21:00] <Hideme> natbet:  But as I said... soon as I reboot, I get a second eth2 under the network manager.
[21:00] <Hideme> natbet:  Yes
[21:01] <garysan> #ubuntu-bo
[21:01] <DelGurth> deus: thanks for the question though.. this is nice to know: http://www.overset.com/2007/07/13/simple-flash-remoting-proxy-through-linux/
[21:02] <RandomCake> Hi, when you install Ubuntu it finds other OSes and adds the entries for Grub, is there any way to have it do the same thing *after* you've finished installing?
[21:02] <DelGurth> if you need to develop flash, that is
[21:02] <DelGurth> but not yet sure how it works, technically
[21:02] <j_s> Hello - is there any way to "auto mount" samba shares at login based on the logged in user?
[21:02] <lavacano201014> RandomCake: You COULD add the entries manually
[21:03] <lavacano201014> I think you can find the specific OS entries on the internet someplace
[21:03] <fryguy> I just upgraded to 8.10 and my second monitor won't turn on anymore.  ATI Radeon graphics card, restored my existing xorg.conf that I backed up, with no effect.  I'm also stuck at 800x600 resolution.  What can I do?
[21:03] <lavacano201014> Speaking of Samba, how does one mount Samba shares?
[21:04] <natbet> Hideme: does ifconfig show the extra eth2?
[21:04] <natalisushka> Hey people. I have an issue playing certain DVDs on my laptop. I don't know, is it the DVD Rom or my plugins! I have  DVD 5 movies, some work and some don't. I am sure they are fine cuz they worked on some dvd players. So please tell me what can i do? Is there anything I may install? I use Kaffeine bu the way
[21:04] <natalisushka> by*
[21:04] <lavacano201014> Hmm
[21:04] <Dominik314> my system does not recognize any swap space, system monitor says it has 0 bytes swap
[21:05] <lavacano201014> !dvd | natalisushka
[21:05] <Hideme> natbet:  At the moment, no. Because I usually delete the second eth2 on start-up since I need eth0 as primary.
[21:05] <Dominik314> what could possibly cause this?
[21:05] <fryguy> Dominik314: verify that there is a swap partition in your /etc/fstab file, and use swapon to mount one right now
[21:05] <Dominik314> fryguy: I have a 10 gig swap partitition
[21:05] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: Isn't that a bit of overkill?
[21:05] <fryguy> Dominik314: and have you verified that it is in your /etc/fstab
[21:06] <Edward123> hey
[21:06] <jtimberman> what on earth do you need 10G of swap for?
[21:06] <natbet> Hideme: just to make sure I'm understanding right, the computer has 3 network interfaces, on boot you get eth0, eth1, eth2, eth2?
[21:06] <fryguy> jtimberman: for all we know he's doing scientific modeling.  does it really matter?
[21:06] <Edward123> i've added a symlink in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to rewrite.load, but .htaccess rewrite rules don't seem to be getting read and i've got no errors in the error log.
[21:06] <jtimberman> fryguy: if he has 10G memory and wants to put his system to sleep/suspdend it does.
[21:06] <Dominik314> fryguy: I don't have fstab folder
[21:07] <lavacano201014> fryguy: Calculating pi to the 2,000th digit
[21:07] <Edward123> is there something else i should do?
[21:07] <fryguy> Dominik314: it's not a folder, it's a file
[21:07] <Edward123> ah... i see, i think i need to edit my default site too
[21:07] <Dominik314> Iavacano20104: the swap partition is at the end so in order to resize it I had to move 2 windows partitions and 1 linux partition, that process took 18 hours, I am not about to repeat that procedure just cause I made my swap to small by 10 megs!
[21:08] <Hideme> natbet   Two physical ethernet cards.  One of which is a dual interface, all in all 3 ethernet ports eth0, eth1 and eth2.
[21:08] <jtimberman> Dominik314: You can run 'swapon -s' to show the size and device name of your swap file and whether it's being used.
[21:08] <jimv2000> for a channel with 1500 people in it, it's rather quiet
[21:08] <Hideme> natbet and yes...  eth0, eth1, eth2, eth2 show in the network manager GUI
[21:08] <Dominik314> fryguy: /dev/sda7 then it gives a UUID no options dumb: swap pass: sw
[21:08] <Edward123> hrm apache2ctl -l doens't show mod_security loaded
[21:09] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: Too small? HA
[21:09] <Edward123> but when i run a2enmod rewrite it says 'this moduel is already enabled'
[21:09] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: You'll probably NEVER, *EVER* need more than about two or three GB
[21:09] <natbet> Hideme: how are you deleting the extra eth2?
[21:09] <Hideme> natbet though I haven't looked to see what MAC address the 2nd eth2 gets... or ifconfig when its happening.  Just usually rm the interface.
[21:09] <Kinote> Well, after removing the damaged drive Ubuntu has installed just fine. Cheers, lads.
[21:09] <Anthony371> Does anyone know about the Evolution mail sending problem?
[21:09] <Hideme> natbet with the network GUI
[21:09] <fryguy> lavacano201014: there's plenty of reasons why you would need more swap than that. stop belaboring a dumb point
[21:10] <Xore> hi, i just upgraded to 8.10, and in the cleanup it removed a package (xkeyboard-config) that i would like to have back. ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/source/intrepid/xkeyboard-config ). it is not showing up in apt, what am i doing wrong?
[21:10] <lavacano201014> fryguy: I personally treat it like RAM. So yeah. But if he's calculating pi, then whatever.
[21:10] <Dominik314> ok there appears not to be a swap file now, swapon -s returns what appears to be the title row of a table, filename tyhpe size used priority
[21:10] <jtimberman> if you plan to suspend/sleep your system (ie like a laptop) you should have swap = total physical memory installed.
[21:10] <Dominik314> but it does not list anything
[21:11] <Anthony371> Does anyone know about the Evolution mail sending problem? I'm having trouble sending emails and I've tinkered with everything I can imagine.....
[21:11] <Dominik314> BTW I had to force the Laptop to shut off (kill power)
[21:11] <jtimberman> if you're not planning to suspend the system, then swap doesn't really need to be much more than maybe 1G or whatever, dpeending on the applications you're using. memory is cheap, if you're swapping a lot buy more memory :P.
[21:12] <jtimberman> Dominik314: there should be a line like "/dev/mapper/vmmaster-swap_1 partition 315384 0 -1" under the heading line.
[21:12]  * lavacano201014 has about 512 MB swap
[21:12] <joebodo> hibernate needs swap - suspend does not
[21:12] <Dominik314> jtimberman: just went into GParted and turned it on
[21:12] <lavacano201014> I have a small drive, and all I use it for is music anyway
[21:12] <jimv2000> @Dominik put this line your fstab and replace the UUID with the UUID of your swap partition, then reboot
[21:12] <jimv2000> UUID=304ff2c7-4dac-4a0e-8cac-32f89765eca9 none            swap    sw              0       0
[21:12] <Dominik314> jtimberman: now htop recognizes 10001MB of swap... mhh pretty
[21:12] <jtimberman> Dominik314: you should read the swapon man page ;)
[21:12] <Anthony371>  Does anyone know about the Evolution mail sending problem? I'm having trouble sending emails and I've tinkered with everything I can imagine.....
[21:12] <jtimberman> thats a lot of swap dude
[21:13] <jtimberman> like, ridiculous amounts.
[21:13] <lavacano201014> !repeating | Anthony371
[21:13] <jimv2000> delete or comment out any other swap lines
[21:13] <lavacano201014> !repeat | Anthony371
[21:13] <Anthony371> Alright. Thanks man.
[21:13] <jimv2000> !patience
[21:13] <NekroJakub> If I delete my lower panel for example, how can I get it back?
[21:13] <engemec> hi everybody
[21:13] <Dominik314> now for the test, I will run FF3 this will cost me more ram that I have thus forcing SWAP utilization, but I bet you 10 bucks the system will hang and ill have to kill it by cutting power again
[21:13] <fryguy> NekroJakub: right click on another panel and create a new one
[21:14] <Hideme> natbet:  brb.. going to reboot and check the MAC
[21:14] <Kinote> Is it normal for Ubuntu to mount a HD, but claim it was unable to mount it due to an internal error: No mount object? Then afterwards everything works just fine?
[21:14] <rufneck> //server irc.undernet.org
[21:14] <jtimberman> Dominik314: sounds like you need more memory sir.
[21:14] <lavacano201014> Kinote: No...
[21:14] <lavacano201014> Kinote: But if it's mounting and working fine, then that shouldn't be too much of a problem...
[21:15] <wwpiexec> can I a write a script to emulate (CTRL+ALT+F9) or (CTRL+ALT+F7) or is there a program that can do this? i have two x-sessions.. and i'd like to simply click on an icon.. or script to change the X displays
[21:15] <zsquareplusc> as if your computer is getting more usable when its occupied by copying 10GB of swap memory back and forth...
[21:15] <Jason_CO> can someone please tell me what is console-kit-daemon and more importantly -- Why is it eating up 45% of my processor time?
[21:15] <Dominik314> jtimberman: Ubuntu was supposed to revive my old lapy :(
[21:15] <ChrisBookwood> Hey
[21:16] <ChrisBookwood> Is it possible to style the look of the window list in gtk?
[21:16] <jimv2000> Dominik, did you do what I suggested?
[21:16] <jtimberman> Dominik314:  Xubuntu is well suited for older hardware.
[21:16] <jtimberman> Firefox, generally speaking, is not :-)
[21:16] <Kinote> Right-o, just checking. Thanks.
[21:16] <Xore> hello. i am looking for a package that shows up under intrepid on the website, but it's now showing up in apt. it's not clear which repository i need to have enabled. can someone point me in the right direction?
[21:16] <joebodo> Jason_C0 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3600578
[21:16] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: If you don't like the way Xubuntu looks, install it anyway, then install your favorite desktop environment to see if it works.
[21:16] <Kinote> They mount fine, and I can throw files back and forth just fine. That initial complain is just mildly unnerving.
[21:16] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: If not, then there's AfterStep (personal favorite of mine)
[21:17] <jimv2000> @Xore what package
[21:17] <Xore> jimv2000: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/source/intrepid/xkeyboard-config
[21:17] <Dominik314> lavacano201014: do I have to uninstall ubuntu and get cd for xubuntu or can I convert from within ubuntu?
[21:17] <Xore> when i upgraded to 8.10 it got removed
[21:17] <Xore> i need it back
[21:17] <NekroJakub> fryguy: Okay, so I deleted the lower panel and tried to bring it back to normal, but now the active windows are centered and not to the left...
[21:17] <natalisushka> Does the DVD rom determine what the DVD origion to play? or it's the software or the plugin installed?
[21:17] <lavacano201014> Dominik314: Obnoxiously good question
[21:17] <Dominik314> lavacano201014: I don't care for apperance, this is a "server" type machine, running music and stuffs for my appt
[21:17] <esereht> bonjour