[00:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, I doubt it was meant to send stuff; I'm not too sure of your phone specs.
[00:00] <zykotick9> jonboy: do you have any other questions?  i'll be leaving very shortly.
[00:00] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: it doesn't look like anyone here is able to help and I am under time pressure -- is there a "cheap" way I can buy my way out of it?
[00:00] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: I cannot pay $250.oo for support
[00:00] <jonboy> zykotick9: nope. I just changed the permissions and everything works great.  I owe you...
[00:00] <zykotick9> jonboy: well done
[00:01] <specialpurpose> zykotick9: however, I would pay $25 surely
[00:01] <zykotick9> specialpurpose: i doubt many people use virtual interfaces, i never have.  good luck man.
[00:04] <Physicist> Ubuntu tweak does not open! Any devoce?
[00:04] <Physicist> Ubuntu tweak does not open! Any device?
[00:06] <specialpurpose> If no one in the Ubuntu channel knows how to bring up eth0:1 with a DHCP address and no one offers paid support <$250 is there a Linux-Networking channel someone can refer me to?  I tried google forever.  I am running out of places to go.
[00:06] <zykotick9> specialpurpose: there is a ##networking as well as ##linux channels
[00:07] <user01> i have a question . . . if i have a proxy at work that uses port 3001 let's say, and i have a server at home that i want to start a vnc session on, if i change the port setting to 3001 on the server would this allow me to open a vnc session from work?
[00:08] <iFlip> specialpurpose im late in this convo but have you setup the interface config file?
[00:08] <zykotick9> user01: #debian-offtopic didn't answer eh? ;)
[00:08] <user01> nope!
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> user01: So long as 3001 isn't used by the target machine I don't see how it wouldn't work...
[00:08] <SonikkuAmerica> to transmit
[00:08] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I was wondering how to do this from the command line but if you know how using the interfaces config file that is a good start
[00:09] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I was unable to have any success with it from either
[00:09] <iFlip> sudo vi etc/network/interfaces
[00:10] <user01> zykotick9, im using different distros, thought i would check!
[00:11] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I tried adding lines "auto eth0:2" and "iface eth0:2 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces and had no success.
[00:12] <ivan__> hi
[00:12] <iFlip> gimme a sec
[00:12] <dydz_> heres my network controller info: http://pastebin.com/r9rAZXeU   -- my internet is going very very slow (tried speedtest.net)
[00:12] <nibbler> specialpurpose: did you get my solution? i was playing with my devices, so might have been actually disconnected while telling you how to do this
[00:12] <specialpurpose> nibbler: I did not.
 specialpurpose: just figured it out
 specialpurpose: first you create a virtual interface in bridge mode: 'ip link add link eth0 veth1 type bridge' - i believe this means its bound to eth0. certainly the name is veth1. then you add the eth0 to the just created bridge: 'brctl addif veth1 eth0'
 this results in two devices, both accessing the same media. i was able to dhclient both of them - they share one MAC, which is ok for a bridge...
 ...and in general: don't use ifconfig, and double-dont-use-it if you do heave networking stuff ;)
[00:13] <FloodBot1> nibbler: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <iFlip> it should look like this http://hpaste.org/82066
[00:14] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: well, I should be able to at least play audio from the phone onto the computer, and that isn't working
[00:14] <iFlip> here's the full http://hpaste.org/82067
[00:15] <iFlip> then type: sudo ifdown --- then --- sudo ifup
[00:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, yes, that should be a distinct possibility
[00:16] <dxm> xubuntu is amazing
[00:16] <nibbler> specialpurpose: tell me if it works...
[00:16] <specialpurpose> iFlip: your solution obtains a DHCP address for eth0.  I need a static IP address assigned to eth0.  I was attempting to obtain a dynamic IP address on eth0:N
[00:17] <specialpurpose> nibbler: attempting now -- if I am disconnected I will be back
[00:17] <iFlip> oh I thought you wanted dhcp
[00:18] <specialpurpose> iFlip: I want DHCP and static both using same physical device.
[00:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, it should be able to connect manually as the computer being the audio sink... see if you can use blueman to send the audio to your computer speakers.
[00:22] <LVLAaron> I could really use some help getting my kernel fixed: http://askubuntu.com/questions/253244/reinstall-latest-kernel/253246#253246
[00:25] <histo> LVLAaron: Did the reinstall actually reinstall the packages?
[00:25] <LVLAaron> Yes.
[00:25] <histo> LVLAaron: Then reboot and select the new kernel it installed
[00:25] <LVLAaron> I did.
[00:26] <histo> LVLAaron: Then the problem is?
[00:26] <dr_willis> now dance a happy jig around the pc....
[00:26] <dr_willis> ;P
[00:26] <LVLAaron> histo, did you read thread?
[00:26] <LVLAaron> histo, it still tries to load the busted module and goes into panic
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: So the issue is the module not the kernel
[00:27] <LVLAaron> ok
[00:27] <LVLAaron> how do I get rid of it?
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: remove or blacklist the module your broke.
[00:27] <LVLAaron> how do I remove it?
[00:27] <histo> LVLAaron: Let me look at what you were doing
[00:27] <dr_willis> blacklisting it would be the better answer i belive
[00:28] <LVLAaron> https://github.com/facebook/flashcache/wiki/QuickStart-Recipe-for-Ubuntu-11.10
[00:28] <LVLAaron> Can I blacklist/remove it for kernel <IP_ADDRESS> while running on <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[00:30] <histo> LVLAaron: Did you see the part on removing flashcache from a voluem.
[00:30] <LVLAaron> yes
[00:31] <dr_willis> the blacklist configs will work for all the kernels.
[00:31] <dr_willis> !blacklist
[00:31] <histo> LVLAaron: blacklist flashcache
[00:31] <LVLAaron> If i wanted to remove it... where is it?
[00:31] <LVLAaron> should I blacklist and get booted on that kernel first?
[00:32] <Mini_anon> hello there
[00:32] <nevada-smith> hi all
[00:32] <LVLAaron> brb. going to try.
[00:33] <dr_willis> if you blacklist it.. it should thenbe blacklisted on all kernels
[00:33] <Mini_anon> i have two question
[00:33] <dapunkk> re
[00:34] <Mini_anon> the first is: how different are the admin privillege in ubuntu are from windows
[00:34] <Mini_anon> the second is gnome shell faster than unity
[00:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, the answer to your second question is: It all depends on your graphics.
[00:36] <whoever> need help killin' zombie , bluetooth won't die, tried kill, kill 9 no luck
[00:37] <Mini_anon> SonikkuAmerica: will I loose compatibility with the program i already have?
[00:37] <zykotick9> whoever: if it's really "zombie" you'll need to restart to clear it.  but it doesn't actually matter, i don't think.
[00:38] <LVLAaron> Here's the error: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg
[00:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon: The... program? (Clarify please)
[00:39] <LVLAaron> My G is tainted.
[00:39] <LVLAaron> !blacklist
[00:39] <cadgu`a> Why does a fresh nginx install fail to serve anything on 80?
[00:40] <cadgu`a> I mean, apt-get purse nginx; apt-get install nginx; service nginx start; nothing on port 80
[00:40] <cadgu`a> s/purse/purge
[00:40] <cadgu`a> I can access it locally but not remotely
[00:41] <_DomY-Dom> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive,
[00:42] <Mini_anon> another way to put it SonikkuAmerica is: will a change of environment from unity to gnome could hinder the work of some programs that I already have?
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, no chance at all of that! Both are GNOME 3-based shells.
[00:43] <Mini_anon> yay!
[00:43] <LVLAaron> histo, any ideas?
[00:43] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, if you're just wanting the DE, just [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ].
[00:44] <Mini_anon> ok thanks
[00:44] <histo> LVLAaron: ideas forj? sorry I was away. I would black list the flashcache you where building when everything went south.
[00:44] <LVLAaron> I did. I get this: http://i.imgur.com/ii6JdhF.jpg
[00:44] <LVLAaron> can I remove /var/lib/dkms/flashcache ?
[00:45] <histo> LVLAaron: Well it's obviously not blacklisted
[00:45] <Mini_anon> by the way SonikkuAmerica : can you answer the first question like : how different are the admin privileges in ubuntu are from windows?
[00:45] <histo> LVLAaron: Also disable it for the volume if you set that up.
[00:45] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, it's kind of complicated how admin works in Windows.
[00:46] <_DomY-Dom> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my Macbook Pro (8,1) following your tutorials and everything is fine apart from two things. The wireless connection works but browsing suddenly becomes really slow every now and then and I need to "Enable wireless" and disable it again; it's becoming really annoying and this isn't occuring with any other laptop & OS. Any idea what the problem is ? Secondly, the touchpad sensors are really messed up, it is far too sensitive,
[00:46] <LVLAaron> histo, i have "blacklist flashcache" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[00:47] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, I'd say the "User Account Control" in Windows (Vista+) is similar to [ gksudo ] in Ubuntu. But typically, in any Linux distro, you never want to login as root unless you know what you're doing. Same with booting in "safe mode" with Windows and selecting login as "Administrator."
[00:47] <Mini_anon> SonikkuAmerica:  from what i see, i did loose some of my privileges, as admin i cannot see the files of the other regular user, cannot see their weigth cannot delete them
[00:49] <Mini_anon> which i could do on windows
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, just [ sudo ] or [ gksudo ] won't let you do that.
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> But pure [ su ] might.
[00:49] <Mini_anon> :D
[00:49] <histo> !sudo | Mini_anon
[00:49] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: I've been trying things; but there's nothing there in blueman besides "connect to audio source"
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, of course you'd have to do [ sudo passwd root ] before you used [ su ] or else it won't work at all.
[00:50] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: NO
[00:50] <histo> Mini_anon: dont' do that
[00:50] <amiu> are you sure the device supports bluttoth beyond audio streaming?
[00:50] <histo> Mini_anon: sudo -i   will give you a root console without passwd
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> I was just about to say NEVER DO THIS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
[00:50] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: you can also sudo su   and that works without passwd root. Users shouldn't be enabling root account.
[00:51] <Mini_anon> and i don`t know what i will do XD
[00:51] <SonikkuAmerica> And by KNOW I mean... well... my explanation is so graphical it's NSFW.
[00:51] <histo> Mini_anon: What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Mathnerd314, I guess your phone just won't do that. It sounds weird, but I can't think of anything beyond that.
[00:53] <Mini_anon> i want to be able to see the file of the regular user while im on my admin user : be able to move them, delete them as i would in windows
[00:53] <LVLAaron> OK I can't do a blacklist because the module got built into the image, maybe....
[00:53] <dr_willis> Mini_anon:   unless they are in an encrypted home, you should be able to get to their stuff with a root shell.
[00:53] <Mini_anon> that what i want: histo  SonikkuAmerica
[00:53] <Mathnerd314> SonikkuAmerica: I'll also note that various programs (e.g. "gvfsd-obexftp") have been crashing randomly while I've been doing this, so it's probably not a well-tested area :p
[00:54] <dr_willis> bluetooth - has such potential.. and been so - well.. under whelming over the years
[00:54] <histo> Mini_anon: You can give yourself permissions to their home
[00:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, does [ sudo -i ] or [ sudo su ] work?
[00:54] <CavalierPrime> Mini-anon you can use gksudo nautilus to do all that
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Mini_anon, or, in histo's terms, use [ sudo chmod ] to mess with permission.
[00:55] <histo> SonikkuAmerica: either of those will give you a root shell
[00:55] <dr_willis> if the system is using an encrypted homes then root will only see the encrypted stuff. not the actual files.
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> histo: right.
[00:55] <histo> Mini_anon: I think gksu nautilus   would be the easiest way for you.
[00:55] <jrood> hi, i am sucessfully using flstuio, in wine, with mackie onyx blackjack interface as the driver, however, i can only output to the blackjack, i can't record in
[00:56] <jrood> *flstudio
[00:56] <histo> !appdb | jrood
[00:56] <dr_willis> jrood:  check the wine app database and the #winehq channel
[00:56] <histo> lol
[00:56] <jrood> thanks
[00:57] <histo> !manual | Mini_anon You also want to probably check this out.
[01:00] <Mini_anon> re
[01:00] <sirdotalus> is this the proper channel for tech support?
[01:01] <Mini_anon> excuse me i didn`t see your answer it`s raining at home so my connection is less stable
[01:02] <sirdotalus> is this the proper channel for tech support
[01:02] <histo> Mini_anon: use gksu nautilus
[01:02] <sirdotalus> i am having issues with my ubuntu 12.4 1368 lts system
[01:03] <histo> !manual | Mini_anon and read up on this.
[01:03] <rudedogg> Hi, I am trying to use "rm -rf directory", but it's still saying it can't delete it because it's not empty ...
[01:03] <sirdotalus> i have been receiving error reports related to my /lib file
[01:03] <histo> !destails | sirdotalus
[01:03] <rudedogg> is there a different command I can use to delete the directory?
[01:03] <histo> !details | sirdotalus
[01:03] <histo> rudedogg: remove the trailing slash if you have one.
[01:03] <kostkon> rudedogg, give us the exact message ytou are getting
[01:04] <rudedogg> histo: No trailing slash, just the folder name
[01:04] <rudedogg> kostkon: rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty
[01:04] <bean> rudedogg, give us the full commandyou're running, too please.
[01:05] <rudedogg> rm -r bootstrap
[01:05] <Mini_anon> thank you SonikkuAmerica & histo
[01:05] <kostkon> rudedogg, -rf
[01:05] <rudedogg> yeah just tried that again too, no trailing slash.  Still no luck :(
[01:05] <wwf>  /join ##crawl
[01:05] <histo> rudedogg: you need to use -rf
[01:05] <wwf> \J ##crawl
[01:05] <bean> rudedogg, "rm -rf bootstrap" should work
[01:06] <sirdotalus> i am running ubuntu 12.4 i386 on a dell latitude 4000 laptop with a usb drive and floppy drive but nop cd, my hardwayre/software specs. 20g harddrive 1gig ram. now the issues have come from multiple programs but the most recent is when attempting to connect to irc with empathy i receive an internal error report haviong to do with my /lib folder
[01:06] <rudedogg> rm -rf bootstrap        rm: cannot remove `bootstrap/.git/objects/pack': Directory not empty
[01:06] <bean> assuming you're not in the directory.
[01:06] <ghargoil> noob question, but how can  I allow one user to read/access ALL of another user's files?
[01:06] <histo> rudedogg: what's the output of pwd
[01:06] <bean> ghargoil, that's usually a "bad idea" (tm)
[01:07] <histo> ghargoil: add the one user to the others group would work
[01:07] <rudedogg> got it, I had a code editor open, I think it was accessing the .git file buried in there :S
[01:07] <rudedogg> thanks guys
[01:07] <kostkon> rudedogg, interesting
[01:07] <histo> rudedogg: np
[01:07] <bean> that'd do it, it probably had a file locked
[01:07] <rudedogg> I thought the message would be file in use or something, so I didn't think it was still being accessed
[01:07] <Jpmh> rudedogg: do you have permission to kill everything in the dir and its subs?  what remains after you try and remove
[01:07] <rudedogg> ls -al shows it gone
[01:08] <bean> he got it figured out, Jpmh
[01:08] <sirdotalus> empathy says i have gone offline and then the error shows up im bringing up a report now for more details
[01:08] <rudedogg> I'm noob so I figured I was messing up the rm command, thanks again :)
[01:08] <histo> rudedogg: lsof would have showed you what was using it
[01:08] <ghargoil> histo: ok, trying/checking
[01:09] <rudedogg> histo: that's cool, thanks that'll save me next time
[01:10] <Malinuss> hello. So I installed ubunto using the "minimal ubuntu", after that I installed the network manager, and gnome. Still even after running the gnm, the window manager doesn't look like the standard ubuntu at all. How can that be?
[01:10] <histo> Malinuss: because ubuntu uses unity not gnome
[01:11] <Malinuss> histo, oh.. haha well that was a bummer.. facepalm
[01:11] <Malinuss> thanks
[01:11] <xangua> Malinuss: because you need to install ubuntu-desktop to get...well the whole and default ubuntu desktop
[01:11] <KrisB> Followed instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager to make Thunar to be the default file manager. After executing ./defaultthunar cp: cannot stat `nonautilusplease/nautilus-browser.desktop': No such file or directory.
[01:11] <Malinuss> xangua, yep I get it now, for some reason I was just sure ubuntu used gnome as the standard window manager, thanks..
[01:12] <histo> Malinuss: You don't need to use the ubuntu-desktop meta package if you are trying to stay lean
[01:12] <xangua> Malinuss: ubuntu uses gnome indeed, but with unity as shell
[01:13] <histo> !unity | Malinuss
[01:13] <histo> Malinuss: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that pulls all the other default apps. What exactly are you trying to accomplish.
[01:14] <Malinuss> well now I got confused. Sorry I'm very new to linux. I want a lean installation of ubuntu, that "looks" like the orginal ubuntu, just without all the extra software, histo
[01:14] <histo> Malinuss: Then install unity
[01:15] <Malinuss> just "install unity". so the unity-desktop would install the whole package?
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: unity-desktop is probably another meta package. There is a unity package.
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: I've never tried to do what you are trying to accomplish.
[01:15] <histo> Malinuss: If I wanted lean I'd avoid unity in the first place.
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> is there a way to change the pcspkr default to play a wav or mp3 instead?  like, catch the event and then trigger another?
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> trying to get system beep to play another sound in 12.04
[01:16] <Malinuss> histo, well I still want a nice and slick window manager
[01:16] <DeadWeasel> was a pain to even get the system beep back after their changes!
[01:17] <KrisB> Malinuss: Install Cinnamon. :)
[01:17] <Malinuss> KrisB, I definetly look it up, thanks
[01:17] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  i haven't been following your thread ... but if you want to use a ubuntu 12.xx with an older look ... have you tried using the gnome classic de ?
[01:17] <KxTwo> Anyone familiar with computer oganiation and design 4th edition?
[01:18] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, I actually wanted ubuntu, with the new look. I just installed the mini-version, and want the "orginal" look.
[01:18] <sirdotalus> is there any way to bring my system back to the point where i originally installed ubuntu. bring it back to the day i replaced windows(thank god) and my system was fresh and entirely unmodified. preferably without having to download and reinstall the whole operating system again
[01:19] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  oh sorry ... so you want unity :)
[01:20] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, yeah I just got it all confused and installed gnome instead
[01:20] <DeadWeasel> how to catch the system beep event (same one trigger by '\a') and play a wav or ogg file instead?
[01:20] <DeadWeasel> trying to get IRSSI to send a nice sound instead of system beep on notify event
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> ubuntu 12.04 x54
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> 64
[01:21] <SonikkuAmerica> *x64
[01:21] <DeadWeasel> i ahve stpuid fingers, shoveling snow all day :/
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> hello all
[01:21] <Mini_anon> can i configure ubuntu in this way: to launch a search via the windows lens you must input the password
[01:21] <sirdotalus> malinuss...i have unity installed
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> can anyone help me with Docky in Ubuntu?
[01:21] <BlueNeXuS> please
[01:22] <SonikkuAmerica> BlueNeXuS, you'll need to be more clear about your problem./
[01:22] <sirdotalus> anyway, i want to bring my ubuntu ack to ground zero is there any way to do that without having to download and re install the whole OS
[01:23] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  what all did you do to it? ;)
[01:23] <BlueNeXuS> I just started using docky instead of the other options..  so i am new to it.. but anyhow..   i just want to change some of dockys icons for the apps in it.. and i went through dockys settings but theres nothing there..  how do i change icons in docky  to make a long story short
[01:23] <dr_willis> Given how you could hae done all sorts of wonkyness to a  system.. theres no guaranteed way sirdotalus ... it just depends.
[01:23] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  histo made a GOOD point ...unity and lean are kinda conflicting terms :-)
[01:24] <xangua> BlueNeXuS: change your icon them, then docky will use them
[01:24] <Terabyte> hi, when I try to run wubi from windows 7, it doesn't run (the security dialog pops up as expected) but the process starts, and then promptly dies, with no visual cues, just task manager showing wubi.exe and then not showing it.
[01:24] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, I'm open to sugestion for others, nice looking, and easy to use, windows managers :)
[01:24] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  lubuntu
[01:24] <sirdotalus> didnt do much downloaded a few games from the software centre has some problems installing nethack (the game not a real hack) so i removed nethack, been having internal errors ever since. i havent had this computer but a couple weeks and ubuntu about that long(on this sytem)
[01:24] <pr1nt> _
[01:25] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  use the terminal. see what sudo apt-get update, and sudo apt-get upgrade say about the systems package manager status
[01:25] <BlueNeXuS> okay, thank you zangua.. simple enough
[01:26] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  what hardware platform are you using ... if your system is fast enough ... use unity ... otherwise people here can help you downscale to your needs
[01:26] <sirdotalus> ive run full updates and i still get the errors. i believe they lie within a missing package within /lib but i dont know which is missing/malfuntioning
[01:27] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, well it's running on the acer aspire d255, but I want a as fast as possible experience. So it *can* run with the full ubuntu package, I just want something more lightweight
[01:27] <Terabyte> is there any proper support for wubi?
[01:28] <Terabyte> plenty of google results for my problem. no proper solutions
[01:28] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  pastebin the exact error messages..
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: I think you want a DE not a window manager
[01:28] <Malinuss> "DE"?
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: Desktop environment
[01:28] <sirdotalus> dr willis. i was attempting to fix this issue earlier tonight using
[01:28] <dr_willis> a window manager is  the foundation of your desktop. ;)
[01:28] <sirdotalus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[01:28] <histo> Malinuss: Window managers just handle decorations and the way windows are drawn and where.
[01:28] <war59312> why no usb mouse work.. ugh! drving me insane
[01:28] <sirdotalus> and it refuses to even download or install the boot repair packages
[01:29] <Malinuss> histo, and the DE?
[01:29] <sirdotalus> so i cant even get those packages installed
[01:29] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  do one command at a time.. look for error messages..  you missed a && in there also
[01:29] <histo> Malinuss: Check out xfce or lxde.   You can get an idea of what they look like.
[01:31] <dr_willis> you want to use a window manager.. :) the Lightest Full featured desktop will be Lubuntu which uses LXDE
[01:31] <Malinuss> histo, could you pleas take another minute to explain the difference between a window manager, and a desktop enviroment?
[01:32] <histo> Malinuss: dr_willis is correct. If want even leaner than that you would go with X and awesome or openbox.
[01:32] <Malinuss> I still don't get the difference
[01:32] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  window manager = Foundation of the house
[01:32] <dr_willis> house = the desktop
[01:32] <iorweth> You can install the other desktops environments from the software manager.
[01:32] <melty> lol
[01:32] <histo> Malinuss: for instance I can run gnome with openbox or awesome as my window manager.
[01:32] <KxTwo> hmm anyone know of a channel that might be able to offer me insight on computer organization and design
[01:33] <dr_willis> http://xwinman.org/  guide to window managers and desktop environments for The X Window System,
[01:33] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  thats 2 rather vague buzzwords... ;)
[01:33] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, 1GB ram, and dual core 1.66Ghz
[01:33] <sirdotalus> ready for this dr willis?
[01:33] <sirdotalus> i just received this errpr
[01:33] <sirdotalus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[01:33] <histo> Malinuss: You are asking for something that looks like ubuntu.... Well uubntu uses gnome with unity as the shell.  But then you want lighter. unity is not very light because it uses a lot of compiz stuff.
[01:34] <dr_willis> !pastebin | sirdotalus
[01:34] <sirdotalus> damn it didnt copy it right
[01:34] <sirdotalus> my bad
[01:34] <KxTwo> dr_willis, I am specifically working on performance, execution time, CPI, instruction count, etc etc.
[01:34] <dr_willis> KxTwo:  for Hardware info - theres #hardware
[01:34] <histo> Malinuss: For your specs I think you would be more than happy with xubuntu
[01:34] <KxTwo> not sure hardware would take care of it
[01:34] <histo> Malinuss: if you don't want all the othe bloat that xubuntu-desktop brings in then just install xfce
[01:34] <KxTwo> spec benchmarks
[01:35] <sirdotalus> event not found
[01:35] <Malinuss> histo, I see, howcome I could first install gnome then, and use that, and now I installed unity, and well unity? okay, then xfce it is
[01:35] <dr_willis> !pastebin | sirdotalus  READ what the bot is saying
[01:35] <histo> Malinuss: The beauty of linux and opensource is that if you dont' like it you can always change.
[01:35] <sirdotalus>  File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 125, in <module>     ppa_info = get_ppa_info_from_lp(user, ppa_name)   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/softwareproperties/ppa.py", line 84, in get_ppa_info_from_lp     curl.perform() pycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')
[01:35] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  do you intend to run speed critical applications ... cpu intensive stuff ?
[01:35] <histo> Malinuss: xfce is a desktop environment like gnome
[01:36] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  or cpu intensive games ?
[01:36] <Malinuss> histo, what is the window manager then? (just tryign to understand this)
[01:36] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  the foundaton the rest of the desktop uses...
[01:36] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, now, but I just want as fast multi-tasking (normally, browsing+music+notes+video)
[01:36] <dr_willis> the wm draws the windows borders... and a few other things
[01:36] <histo> Malinuss: Please check this out http://xwinman.org/
[01:36] <sirdotalus> !pastebin says event not found but i know its happening because the GUI popups are ridiculous
[01:37] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  ! commands are channel BOT TRIGGERS.. not commands you type
[01:37] <histo> Malinuss: read the introduction on that page
[01:38] <sirdotalus> then i dont understand what action youy are asking me to take
[01:38] <dr_willis> Malinuss:  its trivial to have a dozen+ window managers and desktops
[01:38] <histo> Malinuss: Keep in mind that page has some really old screenshots but you will get the basic idea
[01:38] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  paste any error messages and logs to the pastebin sites.. do NOT flood the channel with 10+ line log/error messages
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  looks to me like what you want to run just won't require that much computing power ... you might just install unity ... it's the latest eye-candy ...try it for a few days ... if it seems slow the downscale :-)
[01:40] <apokalypse> why doesn't unity sort your apps by category?  then it might be useful
[01:40] <dr_willis> thers catatory listings in the dash i recalll....
[01:40] <alcb> At 0:27 in this video (12.04) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGMZkC6Y5fE), he does a something to scale just the one application that has focus.  Is that a separate compiz plugin than stock?
[01:41] <Malinuss> okay, so normally, a window manager is the program that displays all the windows, how they look etc... And a desktop environment is like this whole package, that includes a window manager, but also has a lot of other things (standard programs, browser etc.).. Right?
[01:41] <sirdotalus> you could have simply said that in the first place instead of saying pastebins three times in a row undefined
[01:41] <musafir2> hi, I am currently on gnome and I wanted to install kde, will I get the last 4.10 kde ? im running the last version of ubuntu ?
[01:41] <xangua> alcb: the Scale plugin scales windows :)
[01:41] <histo> Malinuss: basically yes
[01:41] <histo> !info kde | musafir2
[01:42] <xangua> !latest | musafir2
[01:42] <xangua> musafir2: most likely no
[01:42] <dr_willis> musafir2:  theres some new ppas for the latest kde
[01:42] <iorweth> Have anyonet tried out ubuntu on nexus 7?
[01:42] <xangua> not the latest kde if that is what you ask musafir2
[01:42] <histo> !phone | iorweth
[01:42] <dr_willis> ubottu   | sirdotalus: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com |
[01:42] <dr_willis> seems sort of clear to me.. but whatever..
[01:42] <fbdystang> Hey guys, flash plugin for ubuntu does not seem to be working. Running quantal. Please help
[01:42] <musafir2> aha thanks yes I found the back repo but I was thinking if there is any official, thanks a lot guys
[01:42] <xangua> !doesntwork | fbdystang
[01:43] <sirdotalus> already pasted to the paste bin, now may i ask if you have a clue whats happening?
[01:43] <dr_willis> musafir2:  the webupd8 or omgubuntu site just had a posting on how to get the latest kde. and mentioned some potential issues
[01:43] <fbdystang> ouch. It ran fine until latest update. Now I get a blank screen here: http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[01:43] <Malinuss> histo, thanks for the help
[01:43] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  and did you tell us the URL of the paste?
[01:44] <Tex_Nick> apokalypse:  in unity "dash home" click on the lens's at the bottom
[01:45] <alcb> xangua: makes sense, thanks :)
[01:46] <sirdotalus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/
[01:46] <ahmedipa> problem with ubuntu one
[01:46] <ahmedipa> problem : I cant install ubuntu one
[01:47] <sirdotalus> i apologize if i am being difficult tonight i am just in a furious mood already and then all this error BS started and i cant even copy the damned crash report to show you that
[01:47] <ahmedipa> it give me this   package have unmet dependencies
[01:47] <dr_willis> musafir2:  getting ready to test out the latest kde now.. gotta reboot to get some updates in.. will  be back with it in about 10 min --> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/upgrade-to-kde-sc-410-in-kubuntu-1210.html
[01:47] <dr_willis> back in 10.. gota to reboots.
[01:47] <Malinuss> one question about the unity/gnome. So right now, even though it looks like the orginal ubuntu, I don't have any of the icons on the left sides, how would I add those ?
[01:48] <xangua> Malinuss: did you install ubuntu-desktop ¿
[01:48] <ahmedipa> how can I solve this problem ?
[01:48] <Malinuss> xangua, yeah
[01:48] <Malinuss> xangua, no wait, no... just unity-desktop. I think
[01:49] <xangua> there is no 'unity-desktop' package
[01:49] <ahmedipa> why ubuntu not stable
[01:49] <ahmedipa> ??
[01:50] <histo> why ask queston not make sense
[01:50] <histo> ??
[01:50] <Malinuss> eh I don't remember, sorry xangua
[01:50] <ahmedipa> although ubuntu not stable , I love it
[01:51] <ahmedipa> I can not install ubuntu one
[01:51] <Tex_Nick> Malinuss:  idon't want to confuse your issue, but the term "original ubuntu" original ubuntu goes back many years ;-)
[01:51] <xangua> Malinuss: if you can get to install a desktop from the minimal iso, i suggest you to download and install the normal dektop iso
[01:52] <Malinuss> Tex_Nick, yeah I know. What I mean by "orginal ubuntu", is how the desktop looks when you install the normal desktop
[01:52] <xangua> ahmedipa: still no make sence, ubuntu one comes preinstalled in ubuntu and neither you provide an error output
[01:52] <Malinuss> xangua, yeah I should propably do that, I just kinda wanted to play around and see for myself if I could get the same looks, but without anything extra
[01:53] <ahmedipa>  xangua: I want to upload image problem what is best link to upload
[01:54] <ahmedipa> xangua: I am sorry for that
[01:54] <ahmedipa> xangua I know it comes but I do not know why this problem
[01:55] <fbdystang> Could someone coach me on how to get flash working after latest update?
[01:55] <KxTwo> ok well #hardware was useless and had a giant douchebag in it
[01:59] <fbdystang> No love at all?
[02:00] <dr_willis> say bump about 10 times... ;P that gets lots of love..
[02:00] <dr_willis> or hate.. i get the 2 backwards..
[02:00] <ahmedipa> I have small question
[02:00] <sirdotalus> welcome back dr willis
[02:01] <sirdotalus> so anyway
[02:01] <sirdotalus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631521/
[02:01] <sirdotalus> any ideas?
[02:01] <ahmedipa> is update necessary  for ubuntu ?
[02:01] <nibbler> fbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[02:02] <dr_willis> Yep. i get back.. now the wife is telling me to run to the store///
[02:02] <ahmedipa> because I am worry about no space disk after update
[02:02] <ahmedipa> what do you think
[02:02] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  seems to be a rather weird but in pycurl. or the server you are trying to get the update info from is having issues.. thats defintly not a normal error message
[02:02] <ahmedipa> anyone can give me feedback about what just I said
[02:02] <xangua> ahmedipa: if you want to install or not security updates is mostly up to you
[02:02] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  do an apt-get auto-remove and apt-cache clean afterwards
[02:03] <dr_willis> this error seems ot be saying the update server.. is having issues with its TLS stuff.
[02:03] <dr_willis> pycurl.error: (35, 'gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.')
[02:03] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  type flash into "software center" see if it's installed
[02:03] <runman75> hello
[02:03] <ahmedipa> xangua:  because I have problem with ubuntu one for files
[02:03] <sirdotalus> dr_willis my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>my thunderbird works fine if your willing to take the challenge maybe you can come back and mail me about it?
[02:03] <dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/110672/add-apt-repository-returns-unexpected-length-error
[02:04] <ahmedipa> xangua: i surprise why give me problem
[02:04] <fbdystang> OK, checking
[02:04] <sirdotalus><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:04] <dr_willis> sirdotalus:  see that askubuntu.com post
[02:04] <ahmedipa>  dr_willis: because ubuntu one give me problem
[02:04] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... everyone has honey-do's for you :)
[02:04] <ahmedipa>  dr_willis: may be if I update it will be solved
[02:04] <runman75> anyone familiar with the Ultravnc Repeater?
[02:04] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  what problem? there is the #ubuntu-one channel also
[02:05] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: adobe flash plugin is installed as well as Gnash SWF viewer
[02:05] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  if you are so tight on disk space you cant even update the system.. i have to wonder how you have enoiugh space to even do any real work
[02:05] <blag> I compiled my own bind, but apt/dpkg keeps trying to update it and failing. I have tried to pin it in Synaptic, but that is apparently not sticking. help?
[02:05] <sirdotalus> your popular maybe you should change your handle from dr willis to dr nick
[02:05] <dr_willis> dr_of_Love
[02:05] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:06] <sirdotalus> lawlz
[02:06] <Tex_Nick> lol
[02:06] <xangua> fbdystang: if you have more than one plugin for flash installed none will work
[02:06] <dr_willis> Better then Dr_of_Proctology
[02:06] <ahmedipa> dr_willis:  thank you for this channel
[02:06] <sirdotalus> yet again i apologize for the floods of text, i was bieng logical but irrational
[02:06] <BluesKaj> hopefully not Dr Strangelove :)
[02:06] <fbdystang> xangua: which one do I uninstall? From software center?
[02:06] <dr_willis> ahmedipa:  yep.. i dont have a life. ;)  sirdotalus  that askubuntu.com site seems to have work arounds for what seems tobe a known bug
[02:06] <sirdotalus> maybe dr of proctology love?
[02:07] <xangua> fbdystang: well if you want all flash features, remove gnash
[02:07] <dr_willis> Well i gotta head to the Store if we want foods tomorrow. bbl
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis:  even I don't update , one day I found no space disk
[02:07] <fbdystang> xangua: ok trying it
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis: any way thank you for help me
[02:07] <ahmedipa> dr_willis: I was glad to talk to you
[02:08] <sirdotalus> thank you for your help you have my email
[02:08] <BluesKaj> Had a great jam tonight ...best in a while, was very cool
[02:09] <sirdotalus> i would like to continue to converse with you so feel free to drop me a line. i am studying unix programming so i could use some more experienced users to chat with
[02:09] <xangua> give emal and await for replies from irc...that's how it works XD
[02:09] <Tex_Nick> dr_willis ... dr_of_proc ... is deep ờᴗớ
[02:09] <MonkeyDust>  BluesKaj i'm into the bluezzz, like jams etc
[02:09]  * intelikey tips hat @ dr_willis
[02:09] <sirdotalus> enjoy your morning food dr of proctology strangelove
[02:09] <min|dvir|us> Hi, having trouble getting my script to start automatically on reboot. https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:09] <min|dvir|us> *upstart
[02:10] <ahmedipa> I found #ubuntu best channel . It is more active than other
[02:10] <fbdystang> xangua: removed gnash but this movie still doesn't play. What am I doing wrong? http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[02:10] <sirdotalus> its the core channel for everything ubuntu
[02:10] <fbdystang> do I need to restart?
[02:11] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, we play kinds of different stuff , blues is our base , but guys drop over so just go with whatever ppl come up with , including country and classic rock
[02:11] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  damn ocean between continents ;-)
[02:12] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  try logging out then back in
[02:12] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: OK brb
[02:12] <BluesKaj> looking for a decent easy open source recording app , audacity doesn't cut it , unfortunately
[02:14] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  can I pm you?
[02:14] <xangua> fbdystang: did you restart your browser¿ did you install any other plugin¿
[02:15] <heywood> i had passwordless ssh set up and working on my (remote) server. yesterday i did an apt-get dist-upgrade, after which i got a "reboot required". when the machine came back up, ssh now no longer works. any suggestions on how to troubleshoot?
[02:15] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: xangua: after logging out and back in I still get a black screen where the movie should be
[02:15] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, sure
[02:16] <fbdystang> xangua: I logged out then back in, which I assume restarts the browser right? I did not install any other plugin. the latest update made it break
[02:16] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  what type of video are you trying to play & from desktop or browser ?
[02:17] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: Firefox browser http://www.break.com/index/the-most-brutal-soccer-foul-you-ll-ever-see-2413076
[02:17] <KrisB> hey, i just changed /etc/ permissions with "chmod -R to 700"... by experimenting... sudo can't find sudoers now... how to fix it (one terminal window still runs as root...)
[02:18] <xangua> fbdystang: and what plugins are listed in tool-addons¿
[02:18] <fbdystang> xangua: let me check
[02:19] <xangua> KrisB: that sounds like a full reinstall needed :) good luck
[02:19] <fbdystang> xangua: There are 8. I will list them
[02:20] <magn3ts> I'm in choice hell. I like KWin, I don't like Plasma. I like Qt but I don't like the KDE services. I like Oxygen but I don't like the fact the kio is nowhere near as good as gvfs
[02:20] <min|dvir|us> Why is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:20] <magn3ts> Can't we have a standard set of subsystems that gnome/kde/razor/cinnamon layer on top of that are more loosely coupled? :(
[02:21] <fbdystang> xangua: Divx web player, google talk, google talk accelerator, iced-tea web plugin, itunes application director, quicktime, vlc, windows media player
[02:21] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  ok that vid played on my firefox ... it took about 45 seconds to load though
[02:21] <xangua> fbdystang: so you don't have adobe flashplayer installed now¿
[02:22] <fbdystang> xangua: it shows as installed in software center, but doesn't appear in firefox addons
[02:22] <fbdystang> Is it supposed to?
[02:22] <unheeding> fbdystang: wait is this firefox on wine?
[02:22] <dONALD> Hi people!
[02:22] <fbdystang> unheeding: no
[02:22] <KrisB> xangua: I just run chmod -R a+rx /etc/sudoers.d; chmod -R u+w /etc/sudoers.d; 0440 /etc/sudoers.d/README; not sudoers permission is fixed. what is the default /etc/ permissions?
[02:22] <unheeding> windows media player?
[02:23] <dONALD> I'm using xubuntu. Is there a command to reconnect my net after a brake?
[02:23] <fbdystang> unheeding: it has that plugin, not sure why
[02:23] <spacecase>  I'm having trouble with my BCM4331 card getting dropped from the network, can anyone help?
[02:24] <ahmedipa> question
[02:24] <ahmedipa> how can I upload image in this chat
[02:24] <friedg> dhcpcd should ask the hcp server for another ip
[02:24] <friedg> dhcp server
[02:24] <fbdystang> xangua: is it supposed to be installed in both places? Tex_Nick?
[02:25] <ahmedipa> is there particular upload image or any site I can use
[02:26] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: what firefox version are you running? And what plugins do you have installed?
[02:26] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  i'm confused as to why you would have windows media player as a plug-in
[02:27] <ahmedipa> sorry for asking too much questions
[02:27] <Tex_Nick> you are running ubuntu, right ?
[02:27] <nyRednek> my sound quit working after i was forced to wipe my home dir
[02:27] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: do I need to remove it? I assumed it shipped with it
[02:27] <nyRednek> anyone know how to get it working again?
[02:27] <BluesKaj> Tex_Nick, no just windows media codec, probly file extension called wma plugin
[02:28] <xangua> fbdystang: on both¿ ubuntu does not shipt with adoble flashplugin
[02:28] <unheeding> nyRednek: what does system settings -> sound   show?
[02:28] <nibbler__> fbdystang: what is update-alternatives telling you now? just paste the output of the line i gave you before
[02:29] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  ok in firefox plugins search ... type flash and install it
[02:29] <dONALD> I'm searching for something like an auto-, or manual "reconnect" command.
[02:29] <nyRednek> undert, i'm on xfce, don't have that particular option
[02:29] <fbdystang> nibbler__ can you repost the command, I can't scroll up
[02:29] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: ok in process
[02:30] <nibbler__> fbdystang: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[02:30] <unheeding> nyRednek: does a "ps aux | grep pulseaudio
[02:30] <dONALD> I can do it manually through the indicator in the tray
[02:30] <Tex_Nick> BluesKaj:  ok thanks ... had  my head spinng for a second ;)
[02:30] <unheeding> in terminal show pulseaudio running?
[02:30] <fbdystang> xangua: do you mean that it should be installed on both! or both? as a question?
[02:31] <nibbler_> re
[02:32] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: There are 8 "flash"es that come up. none say adobe. what gives?
[02:32] <nyRednek> unheeding, it appears to be running
[02:33] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  do you see shockwave flash
[02:33] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:33] <fbdystang> nibbler: ^
[02:33] <nibbler_> fbdystang: ok, you need to set it to the flash plugin, thats why its not working.. let me figure the command, one second
[02:33] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: nope
[02:34] <nyRednek> unheeding, and if i try start-pulseaudio-x11, i get connection refused
[02:34] <DeadWeasel> nyRednek: add sudo before that?
[02:34] <fbdystang> nibbler__ OK
[02:34] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  i think nibbler_ is going in the right direction
[02:34] <unheeding> nyRednek: hmm, you should just be able to type "pulseaudio" and it should start
[02:35] <nyRednek> unheeding, it seems to be running, btw, but it isn't allowing a volume manager to do anything
[02:35] <nyRednek> unheeding, going to try to kill it and see if the restart helps
[02:35] <nibbler_> fbdystang: update-alternatives --config mozilla-flashplugin
[02:36] <fbdystang> nibbler: in process
[02:36] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  looks like it will be in firefox preferences/applications
[02:36] <nyRednek> unheeding, and it appears to have worked
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.
[02:36] <fbdystang> There is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.
[02:36] <fbdystang> Nothing to configure.
[02:36] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: error: unable to remove '/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so': Permission denied
[02:37] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ^
[02:37] <fbdystang> do I need sudo?
[02:38] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, sudo, yes
[02:38] <fbdystang> ok let me try again :)
[02:38] <xangua> nibbler_: didn't you mean adobe-flashplugin ¿
[02:39] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: alternative /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so (part of link group mozilla-flashplugin) doesn't exist. Removing from list of alternatives.
[02:39] <fbdystang> update-alternatives: warning: /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin is dangling, it will be updated with best choice.
[02:39] <fbdystang> There is no program which provides mozilla-flashplugin.
[02:39] <fbdystang> Nothing to configure.
[02:39] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ^
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: you need to install the proprietary plugin
[02:40] <fbdystang> nibbler_: cool, how?
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: sorry, i just overflew the conversation before, thought you have it... one moment
[02:40] <nibbler_> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[02:41] <BluesKaj> fbdystang,, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:41] <fbdystang> which one? both?
[02:41] <nibbler_> fbdystang: the one i gave you will install the proprietary flash player. firefox restart required afterwards
[02:42] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:42] <BluesKaj> fbdystang,^
[02:42] <fbdystang> ok, let me try
[02:44] <fbdystang> nibbler_: install: missing destination file operand after `ubuntu-restricted-extras'
[02:44] <fbdystang> Try `install --help' for more information.
[02:45] <fbdystang> nibbler_: it says flashplugin is already newest version
[02:46] <fbdystang> Blueskaj: sorry I typed to wrong person above. but you can see the error I got
[02:46] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, open software center and enable the  canonical partners repository and 3rd party repos as well
[02:46] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: OK in process
[02:46] <nibbler_> fbdystang: dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-installer
[02:47] <nibbler_> fbdystang: BluesKaj is following another path, so go one first.. ;-)
[02:47] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: all repositories were enabled (checked)
[02:48] <BluesKaj> nibbler_, jusat making sure the repos that contain the packages he needs are available
[02:48] <fbdystang> nibbler_: in process
[02:48] <min|dvir|us> Hi, why is my upstart script not running on reboot? https://gist.github.com/dan-transparensee/a0d3ded0f2b655a1257d
[02:49] <fbdystang> nibbler_: OK I added sudo. it brough up a window in the terminal asking for the location of the .tar.gz file. Where is that?
[02:51] <LEYON> productsuk.    info cheap ultrabook
[02:52] <whoever> is there a file that can be edited to give my bluetoothe devices more meaningfull names that BH220
[02:53] <kevinch> hi all, i have 0 bytes free on my ubuntu server and even when i delete some files it still says 0B free in df.  Any ideas?  It's a 30gb boot drive and then I have a couple 2 TB drives mounted to various folders.  The boot drive is out of room
[02:53] <brokds> hi all. Need some help applying grub to my raid 1. i got my listed partions here. just need to know how to apply it. http://pastebin.com/tf2U4Y23
[02:53] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: did we hit a dead end?
[02:54] <kvv> Hi all, I installed an udpate in 12.04 and now I am not able to use unity3d.
[02:54] <kvv> the display just freezes seconds after I log in
[02:54] <kvv> It's not affecting unity 2d though.
[02:55] <kvv> I want to file a bug, but was just wondering if anyone else saw this.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, first of all , check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[02:55] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: ok in process
[02:55] <whoever> kevinch: df -h /path/toDFOn
[02:56] <kevinch> whats DFOn?
[02:56] <kevinch> whoever
[02:56] <fbdystang> libjavaplugin.so                       libtotem-cone-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> libnpgoogletalk.so                     libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> libnpgtpo3dautoplugin.so               libtotem-mully-plugin.so
[02:56] <fbdystang> librhythmbox-itms-detection-plugin.so  libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
[02:56] <FloodBot1> fbdystang: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <chadhs> test
[02:56] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: ^
[02:56] <whoever> kevinch: the director you want to check usage on
[02:56] <brokds> fbdystang, use pastebin
[02:56] <kevinch> oh okay
[02:56] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, you should have an flash alternative plughin
[02:57] <whoever> kevinch: ie: df -u /usrp
[02:57] <whoever> */usr
[02:57] <kevinch> ah okay
[02:57] <kevinch> thanks
[02:57] <kevinch> see it says size 30G
[02:57] <kevinch> used 28G
[02:57] <FloodBot1> kevinch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <fbdystang> brokds: yea sorry man
[02:57] <kevinch> Avail 0
[02:57] <whoever> kevinch: what whee you using
[02:57] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: agreed, how do we get in on there?
[02:58] <kevinch> whoever http://pastebin.com/hH3g7JrZ - just using df -h /
[02:59] <whoever> kevinch: so you wern't using a directery earlier? or you were miss reading the output
[02:59] <KyeRussell> where the chats at
[02:59] <nibbler_> fbdystang: nah, its no dead end at all. from the beginning all you were missing is the proprietary flash plugin, and having it configured as default
[02:59] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, alt+f2 , type , or copy and paste this,  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[03:00] <kevinch> well everything keeps telling me 0 free
[03:00] <kevinch> so I'm assuming I'm out of space
[03:00] <nibbler_> fbdystang: i'm a bit confused that it wants a tar.gz from you now...
[03:00] <KyeRussell> yes hello xt0rt
[03:00] <xt0rt> greetings friend
[03:00] <whoever> kevinch: posible, what do you have on there
[03:00] <KyeRussell> do you enjoy these premium ubuntu chats
[03:00] <nibbler_> fbdystang: its just asking you where to find the tar.gz, if you leave this empty it will be downloaded, which is basically written there if you read closely :p
[03:01] <kevinch> not much at all really, all my media and backups are mounted on my external drives
[03:01] <xt0rt> I am having problems compiling the NetBeans binary actually.
[03:01] <KyeRussell> same man
[03:01] <brokds> !grub
[03:01] <whoever> kevinch: are you getting an I/O error when you try to run a commad
[03:01] <KyeRussell> im trying to compile hal.dll and it just aint working, i got the tarball and everything
[03:01] <xt0rt> I downloaded the binary but it will not compile.
[03:01] <fbdystang> nibbler_: yea that confuses me as well.  I tried that link twice, different copy/paste. Maybe i need flash to download it :(
[03:08] <xt0rt> why was I removed from the polite conversation area
[03:08] <whoever> kepler: sudo du then
[03:08] <Flannel> xt0rt: Save us both time and kindly stop, thanks.
[03:08] <fbdystang> nibbler_: ok downloading
[03:08] <xt0rt> what did I do btw I fixed my keyboard
[03:09] <Platz> Do i need to modify the group of /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/uevent (currently root) so it's accessible from my status bar? (using i3status in i3wm)
[03:09]  * whoever bitch smacks xt0rt for suck a juvinial trool attemp
[03:09] <xt0rt> Platz: yes
[03:09] <Flannel> whoever: seriously?
[03:10] <KyeRussell> that's bad language whoever
[03:10] <KyeRussell> !language | whoever
[03:10] <BluesKaj> home, ,mdon't feed the trolls
[03:10] <Platz> i'll try that
[03:10] <KyeRussell> ill report you to RMS
[03:10] <BluesKaj> whoever, ^
[03:10] <whoever> Flannel: i couldn't resist "my caps are stuck on what do i do ", and  I hope that was retorical
[03:11] <xt0rt> !language | Flannel
[03:11] <xt0rt> http://youtu.be/vSUW-Z_Cnc0
[03:11] <whoever> ubottu: sorry didn't realize the lang rules here
[03:11] <nyRednek> ok, it has worked
[03:11] <xt0rt> !language | whoever
[03:12] <xt0rt> ty
[03:12] <whoever> ubottu: thaught you whre but also am sure someone is controlling u
[03:12] <xt0rt> family chats up in here
[03:12] <xt0rt> ok in leaving
[03:12] <xt0rt> ty for chats
[03:12] <Tex_Nick> xt0rt ... chill out ... you're going to get banned it you keep it up
[03:14] <nibbler_> fbdystang: is it working?
[03:15] <fbdystang> nibbler_: no, I must be typing the path wrong
[03:16] <kevinch> is /lib being 1.4gb normal??
[03:16] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, , just typing the path is only to check whether or not you have the flash plugin
[03:17] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: /home/theman/Downloads/ is what I keep trying but it won't take
[03:18] <Tex_Nick> nibbler_ & fbdystang : just a thought ... would it be easier to just reinstall firefox ... would probably need to backup bookmarks and maybe even cookies ... does firefox reinstall with flash ready to go
[03:18] <fbdystang> nibbler_: BluesKaj: this is the msg I get: http://pastebin.com/jda9LGm4
[03:18] <xangua> Tex_Nick: it does not and it will solve anything
[03:19] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, nm , we're at cross purposes here . I'll back off , didn't realize you were installing it manually
[03:20] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: Ok
[03:20] <BluesKaj> too many cooks
[03:20] <fbdystang> what is the path supposed to look like? do I need to remove one of the "/" ?
[03:21] <Tex_Nick> xangua : havent looked at the thread in a bit ... i know flash can be a devil ... just never had that much trouble with it though
[03:21] <whoever> kepler: depends what in there
[03:22] <whoever> kepler: my /lib is only 705M
[03:22] <fbdystang> /home/theman/Downloads/  is that right?
[03:23] <whoever> kevinsky: no depends what you got in there , mine is only 705M
[03:24] <aarobc> You know, I think that explaining the problem in detail is the best way to resolve a problem. I came here for some help mounting a windows share, was writing up my problems, when I realized there was another thing that I hadn't tried. Tried it, and it resolved the problem.
[03:25] <fbdystang> nibbler_: Maybe the the filename is different than what it is looking for?
[03:25] <fbdystang> different version of the file?
[03:28] <histo> fbdystang: What are you installing?
[03:28] <Wug> to whom do I report testdisk bugs? because I found one
[03:28] <fbdystang> histo: trying to get adobe flash plugin installed, but it won't take
[03:28] <histo> Wug: man testdisk at the bottom you may find the author.
[03:28] <histo> Wug: Or you can check out their site.
[03:29] <histo> fbdystang: Anyreason you are installing the flashplugin-installer package from the repos?
[03:29] <jab416171> I have an ubuntu server with 2 NTFS drives attached, plus the main drive. How can I share those drives with my Windows desktop? NFS? Samba? What's best?
[03:29] <histo> fbdystang: but basically you download the plugin un gzip it and place in your plugins directory.
[03:29] <fbdystang> histo: just following advice from people here
[03:29] <Wug> there's a scenario where a damaged filesystem can fool testdisk into an uninterruptible looping copy
[03:29] <histo> !best | jab416171
[03:30] <fbdystang> histo; ok let me try that
[03:30] <whoever> jab416171: samba
[03:30] <jab416171> histo: will both work with both a Windows client and NTFS drives?
[03:30] <jab416171> whoever: why?
[03:30] <whoever> jab416171: yes -
[03:30] <Gavilan3> My ubuntu is kind of frozen (the clock still works)
[03:30] <Gavilan3> what can I do?
[03:30] <histo> jab416171: Yes
[03:30] <histo> jab416171: the fact that the drives are ntfs doesn't matter.
[03:31] <whoever> jab416171: because samba is for sharing betwing LAN nodes and it will work by setting permissions
[03:31] <histo> Gavilan3: ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty and sudo restart lightdm
[03:32] <jab416171> are they both just as easy to set up on the Windows side? Just "Add a shared drive"?
[03:32] <histo> jab416171: What version of windows?
[03:32] <jab416171> 7
[03:32] <whoever> jab416171: if its your first time doing it, then no,
[03:32] <fbdystang> histo: I get a folder when extracting. do I put the entire folder in the plugin directory, or just one file?
[03:32] <Wug> im full of problems today aren't I
[03:33] <histo> fbdystang: What are you extracting?
[03:33] <whoever> jab416171: if you need help with setting up samba you should go to #samba
[03:33] <jab416171> whoever: then which one is easier on the windows side?
[03:33] <Gavilan3> histo: I went there and it says: SYSTEM RESTART REQUIRED... what does that mean?
[03:33] <histo> Wug: I remember you from yesterday, So I take it testdisk wasn't able to repair the partitoin table?
[03:33] <Gavilan3> why would it say that?
[03:33] <Wug> the next one is that for some reason, on ubuntu 12.04 with default settings, attempting to login crashes X, which brings me back to the login screen
[03:33] <histo> Gavilan3: You installed updates that won't be active until you restart
[03:33] <Wug> histo: its going, but its a slow process and I had to stop to sleep
[03:34] <histo> Gavilan3: After restarting lightdm it should take you back to a GUI if not ctrl+alt+F7 will take you there.
[03:34] <melty> lol
[03:34] <fbdystang> histo: drop.geekbox.info/adobe-flashplugin_<IP_ADDRESS>1.orig.tar.gz
[03:34] <Gavilan3> how do I restart lightdm?
[03:34] <Wug> testdisk did hang due to aforementioned bug while copying files off, but they were in the recycling bin so I dont care
[03:34] <histo> Gavilan3: sudo restart lightdm
[03:34] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, the file looks something like libfashplayer.so , may not be exactly that but there should only be one  .so file
[03:34] <Wug> ill just skip that folder
[03:34] <whoever> jab416171: it depends what are you tring to atchieve , just share them to anyone that wants them without security or do you need security
[03:35] <Gavilan3> and what is this lightdm thing?
[03:35] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: found it, buried in the folders. do I replace my old one with it?
[03:35] <histo> jab416171: samba will just work on the windows side. NFS will work if you have nfs support enabled in windows, which most people don't by default so that would require some tinkering.
[03:35] <whoever> jab416171: and now that i thing about it even connecting to the shares if thery where on windows from ubuntu , though the gui, you are still using samba
[03:35] <User_San> Hello, i need help. I can't login on Ubuntu (except by Guest). Everytime i type the right password, lightdm restarts, not loggin in...
[03:35] <jab416171> ok thanks, that's what I was looking for
[03:35] <histo> Gavilan3: lightdm is the display manager that starts unity after you login etc..
[03:35] <User_San> Please, help
[03:36] <Wug> User_San: mine does the same thing
[03:36] <Gavilan3> ok
[03:36] <Gavilan3> thanks
[03:36] <Wug> I believe it to be graphics driver related
[03:36] <picaroo> User_San: do you know the root password?
[03:36] <histo> picaroo: there is no root password
[03:36] <User_San> picaroo: yes
[03:36] <Wug> I'm probably going to reinstall the entire graphics system when I get around to it
[03:36] <BluesKaj> which old one , fbdystang , i didn't see a flash...so file in any of your posts
[03:36] <histo> User_San: What were you doing when this happened?
[03:36] <User_San> picaroo: sudo
[03:36] <h00k> !root | picaroo
[03:36] <picaroo> User_San: log in as root, and try changing your password
[03:36] <histo> fbdystang: Again is there a reason you aren't using flash from the repos?
[03:37] <whoever> jab416171: go to #samba, and i'll walk/guide you
[03:37] <histo> fbdystang: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer  will install flash for you in the proper place
[03:37] <User_San> histo: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...
[03:37] <Gavilan3> histo: Thanks!
[03:37] <histo> picaroo: Please don't suggest people do that.
[03:37] <histo> picaroo: The root account is disabled by default in ubuntu and does not need to be enabled.
[03:37] <User_San> picaroo: i log in on tty1, not a password problem :)
[03:37] <Wug> the ubuntu way is the sudo way
[03:38] <histo> User_San: What were you doing when this happened?
[03:38] <User_San> histo: i have no clue... i was just using it normally... so i turn it off... on the next turn on it got this error...
[03:38] <Wug> User_San: did you install upgrades before you turned it off
[03:38] <Wug> (I'm pretty sure mine was triggered by upgrading to 12.04)
[03:38] <User_San> maybe
[03:39] <histo> User_San: So mostlikely there is an error with something in your users settings.
[03:39] <Wug> it worked before that, and suddenly didnt
[03:39] <BluesKaj> histo, the flash plugin shouid be installed with the restricted -extras , if he has it
[03:39] <Wug> I had to reinstall my graphics drivers, and they still dont seem quite right
[03:39] <User_San> Wug:  i am on 12.10... i didn't had this problem yesterday
[03:39] <histo> Wug: What type of graphics card?
[03:39] <Wug> User_San: did you upgrade to 12.10 a while ago and not restart?
[03:39] <Wug> histo: 7970
[03:39] <User_San> Wug:  histo , still, i may have upgraded
[03:39] <Wug> it worked fine last release
[03:39] <Wug> then i upgraded and it borked
[03:40] <User_San> Wug: no, it's an (old) fresh 12.10 install
[03:40] <Wug> it sort of works though, I can sudo startx from a tty and that gives me a root desktop environment
[03:40] <Wug> lightdm just silently fails to login though
[03:40] <histo> User_San: You'd most likely have to plug around in your ~ and look at what is running on startup for your user.
[03:40] <User_San> histo: as I said, i may have upgraded, but i just remember upgrading google-chrome
[03:41] <User_San> histo: how do i do that?
[03:41] <fbdystang> BluesKaj: histo: and all others. Manually putting that .so file into the the plugins directory worked!! I can now see that video :) Thanks y'all
[03:41] <User_San> histo: i mean, where is the file
[03:42] <histo> User_San: Let me poke around and see what I find it.
[03:42] <BluesKaj> fbdystang, glad to hear that :)
[03:42] <histo> fbdystang: That's all the other installers do that's what I was telling you. It's not a complicated process
[03:42] <User_San> histo: i tried to create a new user: it had the same problem
[03:43] <User_San> histo: the only thing that works is guest user
[03:43] <fbdystang> histo: right, i completely understand. the problem for the last 45 mins on this chat room was than NONE of the automated processes were working
[03:43] <fbdystang> and we tried a few
[03:43] <Wug> User_San: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[03:43] <histo> User_San: right because the guest user doesn't have the same config as you. You could create a new user and try to login to just to proove i'm right.
[03:44] <Wug> histo: he just mentioned that he tried that and was unsuccessful
[03:44] <picaroo> User_San: How do you know Lightdm is the problem?  Also, have you checked the lightdm log file for usefeul information?  It's probably located here: /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[03:44] <Wug> my graphics driver and my card apparently dont agree
[03:45] <fbdystang> Wug: I had the same problem yesterday with updates and fglrx
[03:45] <User_San> histo: i just said: i created a new user: same problem
[03:45] <histo> User_San: sudo cat /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log | pastebinit
[03:45] <histo> User_San: after you try and login ofcourse
[03:45] <histo> User_San: Then give us the url
[03:47] <Wug> histo: I looked in my log and everything seems ok until it tried to execute the session (/usr/sbin/lightdm-session gnome-session --session=ubuntu) at which point the session seems to quit immediately
[03:47] <Wug> is there a log file for lightdm-session
[03:47] <Wug> the lightdm log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, except that the session lasts .01 seconds
[03:48] <histo> Wug: there are other logs in /var/log/lightdm
[03:48] <User_San> histo: 1631899
[03:49] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631899
[03:49] <Wug> im running everything as root right now :|
[03:49] <Wug> including xchat and chromium :|
[03:51] <Wug> User_San: your problem and mine appear to be somewhat different
[03:51] <User_San> histo: after +18:32... i got one wrong password message
[03:51] <User_San> Wug: it seems so
[03:51] <histo> User_San: It appears that PAM is erroring
[03:52] <User_San> histo: what is PAM?
[03:52] <gueriLLaPunK>  im trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"
[03:53] <histo> User_San: Your user is failing to authenticate. Can you login as leonardo in tty?
[03:53] <User_San> histo: as i said
[03:53] <histo> k hold up
[03:53] <User_San> histo: i typed my password wrong onve
[03:53] <User_San> histo: look only after 18:32
[03:53] <marz> I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically, it does not give me the option which OS to boot from
[03:53] <gueriLLaPunK> brb, gonna switch from SSH tunnel to my own connection!
[03:54] <loudaslife> I'm on Xubuntu 12.10, ubuntu software center only stays open for a second before closing. http://pastie.org/6107593 Any help?
[03:55] <gueriLLaPunK> ok im back.
[03:55] <User_San> histo, it seems (line 53) that after i authenthicate , greeter goes down
[03:55] <marz>  I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows
[03:56] <gueriLLaPunK> im trying to open /root with "sudo cd /root" and it askes for my pw, when i enter it says "cd: command not found"
[03:56] <histo> User_San: I'm reading through some bug reports now.
[03:56] <fbdystang> what is /root?
[03:56] <fbdystang> use cd ..
[03:57] <fbdystang> use "cd .."
[03:57] <marz> Help . . . I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows
[03:57] <Tex_Nick> how do i, as an example - from terminal do gksu gedit ... and have it not keep the terminal open ... seems like i sued to do that
[03:57] <User_San> histo: thanks, please look this one: 944784
[03:57] <marz>  I installed Ubuntu 12.10, I created another logical partition for the root.and 1 for the swap area. After installation, my compputer boots in Windows automatically. It does not give me the option to select what OS to boot
[03:58] <histo> User_San: try mv ~/.config
[03:58] <histo> User_San: Sorry try mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak    Then try to login
[03:58] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: sudo gedit &
[03:58] <User_San> histo: already tried,
[03:58] <User_San> histo:  also, tried a new user, and failed, remeber?
[03:59] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: then close terminal
[03:59] <histo> User_San: Okay can you pastebin your .xession-errors
[03:59] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this software center error? http://pastie.org/6107593
[04:00] <histo> User_San: and pastebin your /etc/lightdm/ligthdm.conf also
[04:00] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  thanks man ;)
[04:00] <marz> Can anyone help me. I can't boot from my ubuntu OS. My computer automatically boots on Windows.
[04:00] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: np
[04:00] <User_San> histo: 1631937
[04:01] <histo> User_San: What?
[04:01] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631937
[04:01] <Wug> marz: sounds like windows broke grub
[04:01] <Wug> it likes to pretend its the only one in the world
[04:02] <User_San> histo: we mey have found the error's source
[04:02] <fbdystang> you have to install windows first, then ubuntu. This allow ubuntu to add grub correctly
[04:02] <histo> User_San: Okay who owns .Xauthority ?
[04:02] <Wug> marz: take a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[04:02] <marz> thanks
[04:03] <User_San> histo: leonardo
[04:03] <histo> User_San: in your users home
[04:03] <Wug> follow the installation instructions for reinstalling grub on a broken system
[04:03] <histo> User_San: also why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session......
[04:03] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this ubuntu software center error? http://pastie.org/6107593
[04:03] <User_San> the .Xauthority belongs to the user...
[04:03] <melty> lol
[04:03] <User_San> histo: i don't know why
[04:04] <histo> that's bizare
[04:04] <User_San> histo: i don't know why is it tryiing to load /root/.compiz/session.
[04:05] <histo> User_San: What error were you talking about I got side tracked.
[04:05] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  hey great to see you got your flash working ... you had some good help on that one ... you had the patience to work through it also :)
[04:06] <User_San> histo: i think you are talking about this one  944784
[04:06] <histo> User_San: Have you restarted and you are still experiencing the problem?
[04:06] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: yea, I have been doing this for years but that threw me for a loop. I "used" to trust the auto package installers :( Anyway, just paying it forward now
[04:06] <User_San> histo:  several times
[04:06] <Wug> User_San: it would help us a lot if you added the rest of the pastebin link to those numbers
[04:07] <User_San> Wug: not a pastebin, an ubuntu error
[04:07] <histo> User_San: What is 944784?
[04:07] <User_San> histo an ubuntu error
[04:07] <Tex_Nick> fbdystang:  out of curosity ... did you ever determine why it would not install through the normal methods ?
[04:08] <histo> User_San: Please pastebin your /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[04:09] <fbdystang> Tex_Nick: nope. but I would like to. mozillas plugin update checker mentioned that it needed to be updated. The problem I think is that I allowed all updating to happen automatically. Whatever got updated in the last few days broke a few things, this being one of them.
[04:10] <User_San> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631958
[04:10] <histo> User_San: Also rm .xsession-error  and try to login then post the updated version.
[04:12] <histo> User_San: Any luck with the updated .xsession-error ?
[04:12] <loudaslife> Can anyone interpret this ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[04:13] <User_San> histo: no...
[04:14] <histo> User_San: no what?
[04:14] <User_San> histo:  i tried to delete the old, but after several not-logins i still don't got a new file
[04:15] <User_San> histo: (.xsession-error)
[04:15] <Wug> huh, thats creepy
[04:15] <jose106> I got several pictures with the wrong date. Is it possible to change the like a month backwards? I got about 150 pics
[04:15] <histo> User_San: Okay so it's not writing errors therre then. Those were old errors
[04:15] <User_San> humm
[04:16] <User_San> histo: so what now?
[04:16] <histo> User_San: Lets make a fresh lightdm.log and check
[04:16] <KrisB> Hello, how to use memdisk?
[04:17] <histo> User_San: sudo mv /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old && sudo touch /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[04:17] <Wug> KrisB: you mean the ramdisk boot kernel thing?
[04:18] <KrisB> Wug, Yea, I wanna additionally install another distribution of Linux.
[04:18] <Wug> linux16 /path/to/memdisk [newline] initrd16 path/to/image.iso
[04:18] <Wug> it doesn't work quite like you'd expect it to however
[04:18] <histo> Wug: What are you talking about?
[04:19] <User_San> histo: pretty strange: no new logs again
[04:19] <Wug> any kernel that thinks its on a CD will continue to think its on a CD and will attempt to open the CD device to read stuff
[04:19] <User_San> i will reboot,
[04:19] <Wug> since there is no CD device, this will fail
[04:19] <User_San> histo: ill be right back
[04:19] <histo> User_San: k
[04:19] <Wug> some simple utilities will work though, like memchk
[04:19] <Wug> memtest*
[04:20] <histo> KrisB: What are you trying to do?
[04:20] <Wug> I was unable to get past the splash screens for either the ubuntu 12.10 CD or the GParted CD
[04:20] <Free-Info> hi
[04:20] <histo> Wug: Doing what?
[04:20] <KrisB> histo: install Debian. I don't have CD-ROM, my motherboard doesnt support USB booting etiher.
[04:20] <Wug> histo: memdisk is a utility that loads an ISO image into ram and attempts to boot to it
[04:21] <histo> Wug: from within another os?
[04:21] <Wug> the lines I gave earlier were grub commands
[04:21] <Em_> Help, I can't fix grub. I followed the steps in this lin: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/how-to-recover-grub2-linux.html. But when I enter the command "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/  /dev/sda5" it gives me an error message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631979/
[04:21] <Wug> no, its a kernel
[04:21] <histo> oh gotcha
[04:21] <Wug> i was playing with it last week so its fresh on my mind
[04:21] <Free-Info> help me please --- I've a done wrong use of "#mv" command. Example:
[04:21] <Free-Info> # Mv/home/USER/Downloads/piff.pdf /root/PDFs
[04:22] <Free-Info> then the directory "/root/PDFs" has been changed to a plain text file.
[04:22] <KrisB> Wug: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ which one is memdisk?
[04:22] <Free-Info> I can undo the command? I can retrieve the directory?
[04:22] <histo> Free-Info: mv /root/PDFs /root/piff.pdf
[04:23] <Wug> histo: I think he means there was a /root/PDFs folder there before
[04:23] <Free-Info> PDFs is a directory
[04:23] <Wug> KrisB: if you're using ubuntu you can sudo apt-get grub-imageboot
[04:24] <Wug> which includes memdisk (I think it puts it in /boot/memdisk)
[04:24] <Wug> Free-Info: is it really important
[04:24] <histo> ohh
[04:24] <histo> Free-Info: Wsa there anything in PDFs directory before?
[04:24] <KrisB> Wug: in that case, i only need to add the line for iso?
[04:25] <Wug> if its not, then you can probably just get the contents back by redownloading them or whatever
[04:25] <Free-Info> yes, i have importants doc in the PDFs directory
[04:25] <Wug> KrisB: there is a utility that grub-imageboot comes with that generates grub entries for isos in a certain folder
[04:25] <Free-Info> :)
[04:25] <Wug> /boot/images or something
[04:26] <histo> Free-Info: you had docuemtns in there prior to the move?
[04:26] <Wug> if you look in /etc/default/grub-imageboot.conf it has the directory and you can set it to wherever
[04:26] <Free-Info> SU
[04:26] <Free-Info> root sys
[04:26] <histo> ?
[04:26] <Wug> it has to be on the root partition, there's a bug if you put it on a different one (you should be able to fix said bug with a little bash expertise if you really want to)
[04:26] <histo> Free-Info: Did you have docuements in the /root/PDFs/ directory prior to your move?
[04:27] <Wug> histo: I think that was the implication, yeah
[04:27] <Free-Info> histo: yes
[04:27] <Wug> Free-Info: I know testdisk would be able to recover them
[04:27] <User_San> histo: i got no new errors on X.. i have a strong feeling the error is on unity-greeter
[04:27] <Wug> boy do I know testdisk well right now
[04:28] <Wug> not sure you should install it on the system since it might overwrite some of the data
[04:28] <histo> Free-Info: What is the problem? piff.pdf should be in /root/PDFs
[04:28] <Wug> Free-Info: do you have another operating system you can boot from
[04:29] <Wug> windows would be good, there is a windows version of testdisk
[04:29] <KrisB> Wug - I just installed grub-imageboot, and I do have the Debian .iso file. What should be the next step?
[04:29] <histo> User_San: Yeah do you have new errors in lightdm.log?
[04:29] <Free-Info> Wug: yes, a Debian in USB pendrive
[04:29] <Wug> KrisB: find the config file (which has the folder to stick the iso into), put it in there, and do sudo update-grub
[04:30] <Wug> Free-Info: ok, write these instructions down so you can reboot immediately
[04:30] <User_San> histo: yes some... but only when lightdm started, not on logins
[04:30] <Free-Info> histo: cd: /pentest/PDFs: not is a directory.
[04:31] <histo> Free-Info: okay now i'm confused you were saying /root/PDFs now you are syaying /pentest/PDFs which is it?
[04:31] <histo> Free-Info: and what command did you issue?
[04:32] <Free-Info> rsrsrs
[04:32] <User_San_> histo: wait a sec
[04:32] <User_San_> histo: i will send the logs
[04:32] <Wug> Free-Info: 1. boot into debian on the pendrive 2. install testdisk (its probably in a repository or on their website, ubuntu package is 'testdisk') 3. open testdisk as root with "testdisk <harddrive>" where <harddrive> is the device in /dev 4. analyze for partitions 5. pick whichever partition is the right one 6. Browse Files 7. copy the folder
[04:32] <histo> User_San_: I'm at a loss as to what's going on. I would post on askubuntu
[04:33] <KrisB> Wug - I didn't quite understand which config file to find.
[04:33] <Free-Info> # mv FILE.pdf /root/PDFs
[04:33] <Wug> KrisB: /etc/defaults/grub-imageboot.conf
[04:33] <blah> Hi everyone, I'm ssh'd into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?
[04:33] <histo> Free-Info: yeah that would put FILE.pdf in /root/PDFs directory
[04:33] <Free-Info> and now /root/PDFs not is a directory. is a plain text file
[04:33] <histo> Free-Info: assuming /root/PDFs existed before the move.
[04:34] <User_San_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631991 http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631993
[04:34] <histo> Free-Info: What distro are you using?
[04:34] <Free-Info> ubuntu 13.04
[04:34] <Nach0z> wait, there's a 13?
[04:35] <histo> User_San_: I'm at a loss for any ideas
[04:35] <histo> Nach0z: it's development version
[04:35] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu+1
[04:35] <histo> Free-Info: if you mv somefile /to/some/path/that/exists   It will put somefile in that path
[04:35] <User_San_> histo: look, i have a strong feeling about unity-greeter
[04:35] <User_San_> histo: how do i get an older version from apt?
[04:35] <Wug> User_San_: you might try shotgun reinstalling huge swaths of packages until you eventually find one thats broken
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: sounds like a possiblity. You could install gdm and use that instead of lightdm
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: That's what i would od
[04:36] <histo> User_San_: Just to make sure it's lightdm that's the issue
[04:36] <Wug> I actually rather like recent unity
[04:36] <KrisB> Wug - okay,  there is the link "IMAGES="/boot/images"" should I put iso in this folder?
[04:36] <KrisB> the line*
[04:36] <Wug> KrisB: yeah, or change the folder to something else on the same device
[04:37] <histo> This channel has gotten so far offtopic
[04:37] <Wug> after the isos are there, run sudo update-grub
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> I installed ubuntu server with openbox. My fonts look odd
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> usually fonts look so good on ubuntu
[04:38] <RustyShackleford> what do I need to install/configure?
[04:38] <Free-Info> histo: histo: thanks
[04:38] <cfhowlett> RustyShackleford, log out.  select a different de and login  h
[04:39] <RustyShackleford> cfhowlett, for debugging, or because openbox sucks?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> RustyShackleford, debug
[04:39] <KrisB> Wug - the folder doesnt exist (image folder in /boot  doesnt exist) so it's safe to create it on my own?
[04:40] <Wug> yep
[04:40] <Wug> sudo mkdir /boot/images
[04:40] <histo> Free-Info: For?
[04:40] <histo> Free-Info: Did you solve your problem somehow?
[04:41] <Wug> for trying maybe?
[04:41] <RustyShackleford> cfhowlett, well it's in a VM
[04:41] <histo> !who | Wug
[04:41] <RustyShackleford> i'd prefer not to install another desktop
[04:41] <histo> RustyShackleford: did you install any other fonts?
[04:42] <histo> RustyShackleford: and can you possibly paste a screenshot so we can see what you are talking about.
[04:42] <histo> !paste | RustyShackleford
[04:43] <Wug> histo: I think you figured it out ok.  I do deal with people not used to IRC a lot, I know when dinging is necessary
[04:43] <RustyShackleford> I think I just need to apply some antialiasing/font rendering/whatever settings
[04:44] <Wug> ok so I have this idea
[04:44] <histo> Wug: What?
[04:45] <Wug> I'm going to author a setup that includes almost nothing but qemu and autoconfigs to pick an ISO from some folder somewhere, boot the ISO with qemu, and pass all storage devices to the VM
[04:46] <Wug> it will be almost as good as booting from any ISO without any extra hardware
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> http://i.imgur.com/dK1rUC0.png
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> I feel like it looks better in the picture than in my VM
[04:47] <RustyShackleford> don't the font's look kinda thin though.  I'm ssh'ing into an ubuntu machine and I dont have vnc running on it yet. Is there a way to turn on the vncserver from the terminal?
[04:53] <RustyShackleford> histo, after hitting apply, no .gtkrc-2.0 file was written
[04:53] <RustyShackleford> where does it make changes?
[04:54] <jam3sm> is there a ubuntu rom for galaxy nexus available to test or do i have to wait till later
[04:54] <RustyShackleford> i was launched lxappearance from the terminal. As I clicked "Apply", This printed on the console "(lxappearance:2519): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_set_string: assertion `string != NULL' failed
[04:54] <RustyShackleford> "
[04:54] <cfhowlett> !phone|jam3sm
[05:04] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:04] <makara> best mp3 mass tagging software?
[05:05] <dsnyders> How do I stop my machine from going to sleep when transmission is running?
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> makara: no best, use what ever you need and like
[05:06] <mysteriousdarren> dsyders: go to power manager, and change your settings
[05:06] <aeon-ltd> dsnyders: i don't know if you automate that kind of condition, but you could make a script that turns sleep off and launches transmission
[05:11] <loudaslife> Any help with this software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:14] <stroodlepup> hi
[05:14] <stroodlepup> is there a way for me to tweak unity's memory usage?
[05:15] <Tex_Nick> dsnyders : preferences/desktop/inhihib hybernation when torrents are active
[05:16] <pranav> guys where can i buy ubuntu smartphone in india ?
[05:17] <histo> !phone|pranav
[05:17] <histo> stroodlepup: Not really.
[05:17] <clouder`g> how do I set dpi?
[05:18] <pranav> no, i need to buy 1. it hasn't been released right ?
[05:18] <Tex_Nick> pranav : order it online ... https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=device-featured#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDIwMiwibnVsbC13ZWJfaG9tZV81MDAwMDA1X25leHVzVVNfZGV2aWNlc19VU19fNTAwMDAwNV9uZXh1c1VTXzFfcHJvbW9fMTM2MDE4MjA4NTA1OCJd
[05:19] <pranav> Tex_Nick: says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.
[05:21] <makara> ok, i see software center is best for 'what best software' type of questions
[05:21] <histo> clouder`g: Give me a second to rack my brain or look through my bash history.
[05:21] <Tex_Nick> pranav : well that's no fun ... wait & wish i guess :(
[05:21] <clouder`g> histo, np, thanks
[05:21] <pranav> Tex_Nick: what about a nexus..
[05:23] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: do you use Unity or Gnome 3?
[05:23] <clouder`g> unity I believe, that's the default on 12.04 right?
[05:24] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: yeah, have you looked in system settings > universal access?
[05:24] <wiggmpk> clouder`g: you can adjust the text size there
[05:24] <histo> clouder`g: http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-set-the-dpi-of-the-display to do it on the fly
[05:26] <loudaslife> Can anyone help with an ubuntu software center error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1631963/
[05:26] <Tex_Nick> pranav : i live in the U.S. ... i buy a lot of hardware from www.newegg.com ... don't know if they ship over-seas ... they're a good company to deal with though
[05:26] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=nexus+7&x=0&y=0
[05:26] <histo> !phone | pranav
[05:27] <Tex_Nick> histo : pranav posted ...  says: is not available in your country yet. We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. Please check back again soon.
[05:28] <histo> Tex_Nick: He wants to run ubuntu on a nexsus. It's all offtopic for here.
[05:28] <histo> loudaslife: dpkg -l | grep libwebkit | pastebinit
[05:29] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: have you tried to reinstall libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 ?
[05:30] <loudaslife> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632064/
[05:30] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: I will try that right now.
[05:30] <pranav> histo: ubuntu on nexus.. wow :D
[05:30] <histo> pranav: there are videos on youtube.
[05:31] <pranav> histo: already into..
[05:31] <tdlam> hello folks
[05:32] <BL-407> Hello
[05:32] <tdlam> I'm having trouble with my panel in xubuntu
[05:33] <histo> !xubuntu | tdlam
[05:33] <tdlam> it is suddenly no longer at the top of the screen...it sits 3/4 the way down the screen and I see no option to move it
[05:33] <tdlam> oh sorry
[05:34] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: That didn't seem to make any difference.
[05:34] <KrisB> hello.
[05:34] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: what was the last thing you installed before you noticed the problem?
[05:35] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: If you mean with apt-get, it was something I used for conky. It might have been fancontroll.
[05:36] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: you could try removing the software center cache, but if that doesnt work (and it probably wont) you'll have to get someone more knowledgeable to help out =(
[05:36] <loudaslife> wiggmpk: Will try, thank you for the help!
[05:37] <wiggmpk> loudaslife: rm -r .cache/software-center should do it
[05:43] <unheeding> is ubuntu a religion
[05:44] <aeon-ltd> unheeding: no/yes
[05:44] <loudaslife> unheeding: No, it's actually a cult.
[05:45] <aeon-ltd> unheeding: no you can't tax dodge by giving out ubuntu cds.
[05:45] <mikedef62> Sorry to bother, but I'm having an issue with my wireless card with Ubuntu 12.10 in regards to Broadcom Drivers. I've read quite a few google searches on the issue, but I can't get it to work automatically. Was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction on where to seek help?
[05:45] <loudaslife> aeon-ltd: lamo
[05:46] <unheeding> heh
[05:48] <yatriga> wifi failed to connect
[05:49] <yatriga> in 12.04 LTS on dell inspiron
[05:49] <yatriga> pls help
[05:50] <dydzEz2> does anyone here have a dual band router and have no internet lag issues?
[05:50] <unheeding> did you try connecting it
[05:53] <histo> yatriga: What is your wifi chipset? lspci  will show you.
[05:54] <wiggmpk> dydzEz2: I have a dual band router with no internet lag
[05:55] <nascentmind> Hi. When there are small fonts my fonts do correct sub pixel rendering. What seems to be the issue?
[05:56] <dydzEz2> do both the bands on your router have different labels/names wiggmpk
[05:57] <wiggmpk> dydzEz2: yeah they have slightly different ESSID's, its probably not a good idea to keep them the same
[05:57] <unheeding> TheRainbowDawn: how is your day?  FABULOUS?
[05:57] <TheRainbowDawn> I hate Bigpond.
[05:58] <dydzEz2> god how do i remove $vt_handoff from  grub
[05:58] <dydzEz2> i can only see quit splash
[05:58] <dydzEz2> removing splash works
[05:58] <dydzEz2> but i rather see my splash screen
[05:59] <pranav> i use wlan from a TPLink router, but some webpages render half.. changed the MTU to 1492, still the same over all browser. not using any proxies in my system. with other routers, pages render all well.
[06:00] <asb_> Hey, I have a macbook pro and I want to install Ubuntu onto it, I wanted to install it onto a SD card or flash drive because my HDD is relatively small, but I can't see any feasible way to do this.
[06:00] <amiu> ?
[06:00] <Wug> histo: I figured I'd tell you I got all of the data back
[06:01] <wiggmpk> pranav: DSL service?
[06:01] <amiu> asb_,  ?
[06:01] <Wug> the partition was intact and I copied all the files out using testdisk
[06:01] <dydzEz2> asb_ you can easily install ubuntu onto a usb stick
[06:01] <Wug> testdisk takes forever to do anything so I decided not to bother going for the whole partition
[06:01] <dydzEz2> use unetbootin, even downloads the ISO for you
[06:01] <jacou_> Are there any Chinese people?
[06:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, a broadband. it has a gateway IP, and dns. which we use to create a private LAN to distribute internet
[06:02] <Wug> jacou_: here? Maybe one or two but not that I know of.
[06:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: and you know, things go fine in my windows
[06:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: and its  PPPoE connection? only reason you would need an MTU of 1492 really
[06:03] <asb_> member:identifier:dydzez2 I can get the LiveCD of ubuntu and install it, but I want to setup a fully installed version of ubuntu, where I can download drivers and set preferences that stay
[06:04] <wiggmpk> pranav: you can try lower the MTU to 1454
[06:04] <wiggmpk> lowering*
[06:04] <pranav> wiggmpk: its a WAN gateway IP which gives us a login page in browser. which authenticates.
[06:04] <pranav> sure..
[06:05] <wiggmpk> or 1452, lemme check something quick
[06:05] <pranav> ok
[06:05] <ravur> In apache - How to setup authorization by file ACL while using client certificates authentication?
[06:05] <wiggmpk> pranav: 1452
[06:06] <Tex_Nick> jacou_  : there are a lot of Chinese people in here at times ... the official channel for the Chinese language is #ubuntu-cn
[06:07] <user__> wechat
[06:07] <pranav> wiggmpk: 1492
[06:07] <pranav> ok, 1452
[06:08] <pranav> wait
[06:08] <wiggmpk> pranav: kk
[06:09] <amiu> how do you type alt chars in linux ( eg; Alt + 5547)
[06:12] <malimbar> amiu: you got a few different ways
[06:12] <malimbar> ctrl + shift should work
[06:12] <amiu> doesnt do anything
[06:13] <amiu> makes the cursor stop blinking for 2 seconds after releasing the buttons n thats about it
[06:14] <malimbar> hmm, let me look it up real quick
[06:14] <malimbar> been a while
[06:16] <malimbar> the way I do it is by using a composekey
[06:16] <wiggmpk> amiu: Ctrl + Shift + U (let go of U but keep holding Ctrl + Shift) and type your code
[06:17] <malimbar> wiggmpk: oh nice! learned smoethign new today
[06:17] <amiu> 啇 wow. thats superfast and easy. yup every noob is gonna remember that the first time
[06:17] <wiggmpk> malimbar: me 2 lol i just google faster I guess
[06:17] <malimbar> woo!
[06:18] <malimbar> 啇
[06:18] <vlyalcin> hii to all, how can i access my  connected galaxy s3 phone files on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:20] <josh___> Hi, I have a quick question, how much space does ubuntu server 12.10 take up?
[06:22] <josh___> Hello?
[06:23] <DaemonicApathy> vlyalcin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/189591/connecting-galaxy-s3-i747-to-ubuntu-12-04
[06:23] <yatriga> cannot find device wlan0 please help me
[06:23] <huttan> josh___: about 1.5gb. But u could prolly vary that depending on how much u customize the packages installed ..
[06:23] <Tex_Nick> vlyalcin:  have you tried a USB cabel ... direct connection ?
[06:24] <josh___> Thanks, huttan seeya!
[06:24] <Tex_Nick> Cable*
[06:25] <yatriga> cannot find device wlan0 please help me
[06:25] <wiggmpk> yatriga: have any more info to provide?
[06:26] <yatriga> tell me what you want
[06:27] <yatriga> tell me what you want wiggmpk
[06:27] <vlyalcin> DaemonicApathy: checking link
[06:27] <wiggmpk> yatriga: was it working before? what kind of wireless card do you have? version of Ubuntu?
[06:27] <yatriga> 12.04 LTS Its was working, Broadcom wiggmpk
[06:28] <w500ubuntu> hello, anyone here good at making gtk3 themes?
[06:28] <wiggmpk> yatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz
[06:28] <DaemonicApathy> yatriga: What are the chances you hit a button or switch on the laptop to turn off the wireless adapter?
[06:30] <w500ubuntu> anyone know how to make gnome-panel fully transparent?
[06:30] <w500ubuntu> on gnome classic
[06:30] <yatriga> wiggmpk it says no wlan0 device found ,,,,, but it was working yesterday
[06:30] <DaemonicApathy> w500ubuntu: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/43673/how-to-make-the-gnome-panels-in-ubuntu-totally-transparent/
[06:31] <wiggmpk> yatriga: put the results of "lshw -C network" in pastebin and link the URL to me plz
[06:31] <yatriga> DaemonicApathy no chance, i have tried everything
[06:31] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  you mean the top pannel ?
[06:31] <yatriga> wiggmpk ok
[06:32] <Name141> how do you bring the etho up and down? isn't it sudo something eth(#) down / up ?
[06:32] <Transfusion> ifconfig
[06:32] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, i actually read that awhile ago and its mainly for gtk2.0.
[06:32] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, yes.
[06:33] <Transfusion> Name141: you can also use ifup eth0 which will run scripts you place in /etc/ifup.d
[06:33] <Transfusion> */etc/network/if-up.d
[06:33] <DaemonicApathy> There's a gtk-3.0 folder with essentially the same contents, w500ubuntu...
[06:34] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  try ... point to pannel ... SUPER+ALT right click properties background
[06:34] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/rDbdPUPe
[06:35] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, yes, your right, but how would i modify it? i did find gnome-panel.css and was able to change the entire panel color, but stuck on how to make it transparent.
[06:35] <magn3ts_> some days I really have no love for Ubuntu. Can't login to ANY of my 5 desktop environments... they just immediately loop back to the login screen....
[06:35] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, that's only a partial transparency, the applicaitons,places, and tray icon area is still colored.
[06:36] <magn3ts_> and ubiquity is broken and there's no damn log files with anything useful in them
[06:36] <magn3ts_> and there's no way to run it in verbose mode
[06:36] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu
[06:36] <DaemonicApathy> w500ubuntu: Ok, the only other suggestion I can think of is try through compizconfig-settings-manager.
[06:36] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/wtg50tmu
[06:36] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  ahhh ok ... i don't know then ... sorry
[06:36] <wiggmpk> yatriga: now "lsmod" in pastebin
[06:37] <w500ubuntu> DaemonicApathy, I did that too, through opacity, but it makes the text transparent too, very hard to read. if there was a way to make the background only transparent.
[06:37] <wiggmpk> yatriga: and "what" is telling you it cant find wlan0, when/where do you see that?
[06:38] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  can you just autu-hide it ... would thaT HELP ?
[06:38] <yatriga> wiggmpk http://pastebin.com/RnnCGe35
[06:38] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, lol it would, but i'd like to know if it's possible.
[06:39] <BillyZane> what's the command that I type in terminal to open up a second session? Like, when I type ctrl+alt+F# , I should be able to access a second login screen right? But before I do that, I have to type in a command in terminal. Anyone know what that is?
[06:39] <yatriga> wiggmpk dont know
[06:40] <magn3ts_> Can someone please help me... I can't login at all
[06:40] <wiggmpk> yatriga: well how did you find out that it cant find the device?
[06:40] <magn3ts_> And shocker, I can't figure out what log would help me, if any.
[06:40] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  SUPER+ALT right click on panel ... properties ... general tab ... auto hide
[06:40] <magn3ts_> When I login, it's sucessful and then it immediately loops backand dumps me in the login scnreen agai
[06:41] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, lol im aware of that one. just was wondering if full transparency was possible.
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> magn3ts_: sounds like the DE you're using is crashing
[06:41] <Tex_Nick> w500ubuntu:  i'm using 12.10 with gnome classic de now ... & have the top & bottom pannels set to auto-hide :)
[06:41] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: it was all the DEs because I was an idiot and used bash syntax in my .profile.
[06:41] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: sorry for the false alarm
[06:42] <DaemonicApathy> BillyZane: run "startx" in a tty: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/multiple-x.html
[06:42] <aeon-ltd> magn3ts_: it's cool :) better than having problems right?
[06:42] <w500ubuntu> Tex_Nick, =), i won't give up yet.
[06:42] <magn3ts_> That having been said, I'd still happily welcome anyone who can tell me what the hell ubiquity is doing on my system when it goes off the deep end and hangs.
[06:42] <tigrang> i just had a kernel panic in ubuntu 12.10. I was editing a file and now that file is empty. is there any way for me to recover the contents of that file?
[06:42] <magn3ts_> aeon-ltd: very much so. at first I thought it was because /home is on my BTRFS RAID array and it had been hosed. That was going to put me in tears.
[06:43] <magn3ts_> tigrang: what editor?
[06:43] <tigrang> PHPStorm
[06:43] <yatriga> wiggmpk dont know
[06:43] <wiggmpk> yatriga: i dont see the driver module loaded that your wireless care is using.. so you should try to load the module and then restart the networking service.. "sudo modprobe w10" to load the driver then "sudo service networking restart" to restart the networking
[06:43] <magn3ts_> tigrang: not sure, sorry.
[06:43] <melty> lol
[06:44] <yatriga> wiggmpk how do i load the module
[06:44] <OerHeks> magn3ts_, known issue, see http://askubuntu.com/a/241989 >> sudo chown user:user .Xauthority and start lightdm again
[06:44] <wiggmpk> yatriga: sudo modprobe w10
[06:44] <tigrang> I dont want to rewrite all that code =/
[06:44] <DaemonicApathy> tigrang: save often
[06:44] <wiggmpk> yatriga: then you can do "lsmod" again and look for it to be sure
[06:44] <tigrang> I did save
[06:45] <tigrang> DaemonicApathy, after kernel panic that file is empty
[06:45] <yatriga> wiggmpk ok
[06:45] <DaemonicApathy> *shrug*
[06:45] <magn3ts_> OerHeks: already got it, I screwed up .profile likea dummy. thanks though!
[06:45] <pranav> wiggmpk: it doesn't work still at MTU 1452 or 1492
[06:46] <wiggmpk> yatriga: if you see the module loaded then restart the networking service.. "sudo service  networking restart"
[06:46] <wiggmpk> pranav: damn, ok so question.. you have a router.. and modem? or a combo deal?
[06:46] <pranav> i've a wireless router
[06:47] <pranav> which connects to the gateway ip
[06:47] <pranav> and then creates a lan for us
[06:47] <pranav> wlan
[06:47] <wiggmpk> pranav: ok, so your router is initiating the connection to your ISP, then using NAT and DHCP for your LAN side network?
[06:48] <wiggmpk> pranav: in other words, your router is being assigned a WAN facing IP from your IP?
[06:48] <wiggmpk> ISP*
[06:48] <pranav> yes
[06:48] <pranav> exactly
[06:48] <wiggmpk> pranav: is your router acting as the DNS or just relaying the DNS from your ISP?
[06:49] <pranav> everything works fine under windows. even under ubuntu, but some pages like youtube, fb, ms.. they end up rendering half
[06:49] <pranav> often with missing thumnails and images totally
[06:49] <pranav> i've tried 4 different browsers
[06:49] <pranav> its same
[06:50] <wiggmpk> pranav: so this problem exists on a Windows OS as well?
[06:50] <pranav> No
[06:50] <pranav> not at all
[06:50] <wiggmpk> pranav: different machines? difference in connection medium? cat5 vs wireless
[06:51] <pranav> nope. i've dual boot in my system
[06:51] <pranav> same router, same lan..
[06:51] <wiggmpk> pranav: using any proxy at all system wide or browser based on ubuntu?
[06:51] <pranav> and when i use same settings with a netgear router. its completely fine also with UBUNTU. that proves that I have 'none' system wide proxy settings
[06:52] <jmcantrell> how do i turn off the launcher web app thingy?
[06:52] <wiggmpk> pranav: ok stupid question... have you tried power cycling all the networking equipment?
[06:52] <KrisB> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux Without CD Section. Afteer "apt-get install grub-pc linux-image", the error: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."
[06:53] <pranav> you mean reset.. ? there's only 1 router. it has been resets on power cuts which are frequent
[06:53] <wiggmpk> pranav: well not reset per say, just removing the power for like 30seconds, then powering up each 1 at a time with like a 15ish sec lag between devices
[06:54] <Noskcaj> any idea what happened to the ultimate edition website?
[06:54] <pranav> huh! no
[06:55] <pranav> wiggmpk: what is it supposed to do btw.. ? wait
[06:55] <wiggmpk> pranav: im assuming you have a DSL modem connected to the router (cant remember if you told me that or not)
[06:55] <wiggmpk> pranav: thats like rule 300 and something in IT, if it doesnt work unplug it and plug it back in lol
[06:56] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, a WiFi interface which connects to this WirelessRouter
[06:56] <pranav> diretly
[06:56] <Tex_Nick> jmcantrell:  could you please explain that in more detail ?
[06:57] <pranav> and the WirelessRouter in turn is connected to a cable that came from ISP
[06:57] <wiggmpk> pranav: just a cable? no modem?
[06:57] <pranav> yes
[06:58] <wiggmpk> pranav: and RJ11 line? regular telephone cord? right into the back of the router?
[06:58] <ASHER1> Hello i need please help about control panel i can run in ubuntu?
[06:58] <KrisB> so how to fix "Couldn't configure pre-depend multiarch-support for libnih-dbus1, probably a dependency cycle."?
[06:58] <pranav> wiggmpk: that is connected to the modem of isp, but its not in our place
[06:58] <pranav> its far off the pole
[06:59] <Tex_Nick> jmcantrell:  what distro & desktop enviornment are you using ... and what exactly does the "launcher broweser thingy" refer to :)
[06:59] <wiggmpk> pranav: thats weird
[06:59] <wiggmpk> pranav: is this like a reseller ISP, like a small town?
[06:59] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes, you got it right
[07:00] <wiggmpk> pranav: has this always been a problem or just more recently?
[07:00] <ASHER1> someone?
[07:00] <pranav> wiggmpk: i just subsribed to them
[07:00] <pranav> *subscribed
[07:00] <pranav> okey, here's sth i found
[07:00] <pranav> there is this 2.5KB image
[07:00] <pranav> https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-snc6/260668_1389536856_209124208_q.jpg
[07:01] <pranav> this fails to load with TPRouter
[07:01] <pranav> and loads well with NetGear
[07:01] <wiggmpk> pranav: how old is the TProuter vs the Netgear?
[07:01] <pranav> netgear 1 month, and TPLink 1 week
[07:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: do you think i should start watching for packets in wireshark
[07:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: did your ISP give you the TPLink ?
[07:02] <pranav> no, i bought it
[07:02] <pranav> and compare the changes in packets for both routers
[07:02] <wiggmpk> pranav: i mean you could if you know how to read them, im not really familiar with wireshark
[07:02] <pranav> wiggmpk: me too
[07:03] <wiggmpk> pranav: is there any benefit to using the TPLink router over the Netgear?
[07:05] <pranav> wiggmpk: Netgear is my friends router. not any known benefit. a bit expensive. but the cp has lesser settings to change
[07:05] <pranav> i tried to compare all the fields like RTS, MTU
[07:05] <pranav> its mostly same
[07:05] <melty> lol
[07:06] <wiggmpk> pranav: well I would say call your ISP for tech support, but they will probably turn you away once you mention linux
[07:07] <Ben64> if its working with one router and not the other, it sounds like a router problem
[07:07] <pranav> wiggmpk: exactly.
[07:07] <wiggmpk> Ben64: true, but he said when he's in Windows using the router that doesnt work with Ubuntu he doesnt have the issue
[07:08] <pranav> wiggmpk: yes
[07:08] <Ben64> bad lan drivers in linux?
[07:08] <ASHER1> ?
[07:08] <wiggmpk> Ben64: possible I guess, but with his friends Netgear router the issue isnt present either
[07:09] <Ben64> yeah, some routers suck
[07:09] <wiggmpk> pranav: I would hate to tell you to spend the extra money on a Netgear, Cisco, or dare I say Linksys.. but I'm at a lost my friend =(
[07:10] <pranav> wiggmpk: seems like it..
[07:10] <asilhouette1> anybody been able to create working virtual AP's on mac80211.
[07:10] <Ben64> get a cisco valet m10
[07:10] <Ben64> i found one at a thrift store for $8, works fantastic with Tomato
[07:10] <pranav> Ben64: noted
[07:10] <asilhouette1> i was able to create a virtual AP but couldn't use the device to both receive and distribute wifi
[07:10] <wiggmpk> Ben64 yeah with Tomato lol
[07:11] <Ben64> worked fine stock too, but I like the custom firmwares
[07:11] <wiggmpk> I hear that
[07:12] <pranav> Ben64: wiggmpk: but why would only few images, links, and css fails GET request on some sites. i mean because of hardware ?
[07:13] <prashant_123456> ltsp cannot login using username and password no response from server session restarting
[07:13] <prashant_123456> bean, got tftp working
[07:13] <Ben64> bad lan driver, router connection limit, um...
[07:14] <wiggmpk> pranav: in my opinion... its a 2 sided coin.. different equipment works so it could be the router.. but it also could be drivers in your ubuntu installation
[07:14] <Ben64> you should say what card it is
[07:15] <wiggmpk> Can anyone help me fix auto-mute.. I get sound from my headphones.. when I unplug them, no sound from speakers.. disabling auto-mute in alsamixer gives me sound all the time in bother channels
[07:15] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  would wget http://site ... with the log attribute show you errors ? ... not sure bout that
[07:16] <HTOOHTOO123> hay
[07:16] <pranav> wait
[07:16] <HTOOHTOO123> sup
[07:16] <Tex_Nick> something like wget -o ... as i remember ... don't remember what log shows though
[07:17] <HTOOHTOO123> .o0o.
[07:18] <magn3ts> for the love of all that is good, let me report a freaking bug on launchpad
[07:18] <magn3ts> "Report a bug" takes me to a useless community wiki page
[07:18] <HTOOHTOO123> hahhah
[07:18] <pranav> wiggmpk: Tex_Nick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632221/
[07:18] <hillary> what are the procedures of accessing localhost documents in ubuntu 12.04
[07:19] <pranav> sry
[07:19] <pranav> its with no quotes
[07:19] <pranav> :(
[07:19] <wiggmpk> pranav: can you ping fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net
[07:19] <pranav> its the same error log but :)
[07:20] <pranav> wiggmpk: have tried it before.. it fails
[07:20] <pranav> but not with the other device..
[07:21] <wiggmpk> hmm
[07:21] <wiggmpk> pranav: any firewalls on either of the routers?
[07:22] <pranav> wiggmpk: never seen a word "firewall" in any pages of CP for both the router
[07:23] <pranav> wiggmpk: ok, guys thanks for the coordination.. :)
[07:23] <wiggmpk> pranav: anything like Internet NAT redirection or Multicast something like that?
[07:23] <wiggmpk> pranav: one more question... both of the routers.. are they giving out IPv4 address's or IPv6?
[07:24] <pranav> wiggmpk: couldn't get. my LAN IP, and router's WAN is IPv4
[07:24] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  i haven't scrolled up to see the entire issue ... if you're only loosingpartial data on partial protocols intermittently ... can you just plug your pc direct into the cloud ... or have you already done that & determined probnlem is with a specific device ?
[07:25] <wiggmpk> pranav: ifconfig will show your IP address's
[07:26] <wiggmpk> Tex_Nick: looks like he narrowed it down to a specific router, only affecting his Ubuntu install
[07:27] <pranav> Tex_Nick: haven't tried that.. (trying takes losing connection)
[07:27] <pranav> will try and tell you guys
[07:27] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  process of elimination :)
[07:27] <pranav> wiggmpk: i think sites like facebook, microsoft, and youtube started using some IPv6, right ?
[07:28] <pranav> Tex_Nick: yes :)
[07:28] <pranav> wiggmpk: those are the sites that renders through halfway
[07:28] <wiggmpk> pranav: yeah but that wouldnt matter for you, only their connection to the net.
[07:29] <pranav> ok
[07:29] <wiggmpk> pranav: you wanna pastebin "ifconfig" for me? just curious
[07:29] <pranav> gmail is totally fine
[07:29] <wiggmpk> pranav: but im at a loss
[07:29] <pranav> wiggmpk: loss.. means ?
[07:30] <wiggmpk> pranav: no idea how to fix it haha
[07:30] <hilarie> Okay, I run my ubuntu server, on a thumb drive, and occasionally check DU, and quite recently, the /var/log filled up my disk, is this normal(it has a public ip)
[07:30] <HTOOHTOO123> nslookup
[07:30] <wiggmpk> pranav: other than the obvious of replacing the equipment with known working hardware
[07:30] <pranav> wiggmpk: hehe... yes
[07:31] <pranav> wiggmpk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1632240/
[07:31] <hilarie> is there anything bad that could happen if I 'sudo rm -r /var/log/*
[07:31] <hilarie> '
[07:32] <wiggmpk> hilarie: an absence of logs... but probably not
[07:32] <hillary> Thanks i have managed. just copy the extracted folder to /var/ww/. then type in the browser localhost/folder then press enter.there you are to access itlocally
[07:32] <wiggmpk> pranav: looks like your getting both ipv4 and 6 address's
[07:32] <hilarie> Hillary, your name freaks me out
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  you mentioned wireshark earlier ... it's a good tool for what you want to do
[07:32] <Tex_Nick> have you asked in #ubuntu-server
[07:33] <kunji> I'm on Lubuntu and I just noticed something kind of odd.  All I have open is a terminal window.  If it's open I get a little bit of static on the analogue audio out, if it's minimized the static disappears.  It's not really a problem, but I was wondering about any speculation on why this might happen?
[07:33] <tigrang> After a kernel panic occurred, the file I was editing is now empty. Is there any way to recover its contents?
[07:34] <wiggmpk> tigrang: you can try and look for the file with the ~ after it.. should be hidden
[07:34] <pranav> Tex_Nick: yes, i will try the process of elimination and then go for it for some clues ;)
[07:34] <wiggmpk> tigrang: example /etc/hosts vs /etc/hosts~
[07:34] <hillary> hilarie,  oops ! why?
[07:34] <tigrang> wiggmpk, there isn't a file like that
[07:34] <wiggmpk> pranav: if you have the option to disable IPv6 on the router, try that too
[07:34] <Tex_Nick> pranav:  good luck man ... report back :)
[07:35] <pranav> ok
[07:35] <hilarie> hillary ?
[07:35] <wiggmpk> tigrang: guess you didnt make a copy of the original before editing?
[07:36] <hillary> hilarie,  Good name eah! change yours to hillary
[07:36] <tigrang> it started off as an empty file, I wrote all of it
[07:36] <hilarie> someone had already registered it!
[07:36] <histo> Wonder who?
[07:37] <wiggmpk> tigrang: no save in between editing eh... unless someone else has a trick I think you lost it
[07:37] <tigrang> wiggmpk, yes, there were many saves
[07:37] <hillary> hilarie, but this is hillary man  from kenya not hillary clinton!! good sunday
[07:37] <tigrang> but it crashed while I was saving (again)
[07:37] <wiggmpk> tigrang: then there should be a ~ file.. it's hidden though.. enter the directory and try ls -la
[07:38] <tigrang> wiggmpk, doesnt that depend on the editor? There isn't a file like that (wish there was lol)
[07:38] <wiggmpk> tigrang: which editor were you using?
[07:38] <Tex_Nick> kunji : sounds like an emi vertical refresh interference ... usually caused by a bad decouple capacitor on motherboard ?
[07:38] <tigrang> wiggmpk, phpstorm
[07:39] <tigrang> it keeps local history of files, but that directory got corrupted too
[07:39] <hilarie> hillary It's hilarie Duff!
[07:39] <hilarie> tyvm
[07:39] <hilarie> Well, I backed up the log file to another drive, and deleted it, if it fills up again, I guess i will be back!
[07:40] <wiggmpk> tigrang: uggh, there's nothing else I could think of
[07:40] <tigrang> k
[07:40] <tigrang> thanks
[07:40] <histo> hilarie: what log file?
[07:41] <hilarie> histo the mail, and the auth, and xorg, were all over a gig
[07:41] <Tex_Nick> kunji : if you move the window around os type into it ... do you hear hissing ?
[07:41] <theadmin> hilarie: Make sure logrotate and some sort of a cron daemon are installed
[07:41] <hilarie> theadmin it was less then a week from it being tiny, to this
[07:41] <theadmin> hilarie: Yeah, tends to happen when logrotate is missing.
[07:42] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Are those the bigger caps that you can usually replace yourself?  All of those look ok to me (no leaking, no bulging, perfectly flat tops).  It's a very slight change, so I was thinking it's probably not a hardware 'flaw' per se, that is maybe in the design, but I think the components are good.  I may not have expressed my question well.
[07:42] <hilarie> there were a couple .olds and stuff, would that have been log rotate?
[07:43] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, I do hear a modulation in the static, it's not really a hiss though, more of a very quiet buzzing who's frequency changes a little as a move the window around.
[07:43] <theadmin> hilarie: Not sure what makes those, but I have logrotate installed, the system is running for about a month now and /var/log is only 9 meters big
[07:43] <theadmin> hilarie: Err, megabytes.
[07:43] <Tex_Nick> kunji : no those are filter caps ... the ones i'm talking about are the size of small ants :(
[07:43] <histo> hilarie: You can take a look at logrotate configs and see what it's set for. But .old is not something it usually does.
[07:44] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Oh, ... those ones, yuck, would just need to live with it if there's a problem with one of those
[07:44] <hilarie> Well, /var/log hit 4gb in less then a week
[07:44] <histo> hilarie: is it full of errors?
[07:44] <theadmin> hilarie: sudo apt-get install logrotate # Should fix your issue.
[07:44] <histo> hilarie: for instance I have /var/log mounted to ram right now and it's only 1M
[07:45] <yatriga> how do i control fan speed in ubuntu
[07:45] <histo> yatriga: I just saw something about that.
[07:45] <Tex_Nick> kunji : yeah, sounds like the video vertical refresh signal is bleeding onto the bus ... not good :(
[07:45] <hilarie> histo need security? why is /var/log there?
[07:45] <yatriga> histo pls share
[07:46] <theadmin> !info fanctonrol | yatriga
[07:46] <theadmin> wha
[07:46] <theadmin> Oh, typo
[07:46] <theadmin> !info fancontrol | yatriga
[07:46] <tigrang> ~info fancontrol | yatriga
[07:46] <tigrang> :)
[07:46] <yatriga> does that control the fan speed or just monitor?
[07:47] <wiggmpk> yatriga: did you get your wireless fixed?
[07:47] <theadmin> yatriga: It can set the fan speed to desired one according to defined temperatures in the config file
[07:47] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Well, it's no show stopper at least, this machine has been solid for almost 3 years now, I don't use the audio on it much though, so I probably just never notice (has mostly been serving as a linux based router).
[07:48] <histo> yatriga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XloTXFgNL7s  Hak5 just did an episode on battery savings etc..
[07:48] <yatriga> wiggmpk : Yup Cheers
[07:48] <hilarie> kunji my ubuntu router is also my media center and fileserver :D
[07:48] <histo> yatriga: They also talked about fanspeed
[07:48] <wiggmpk> yatriga: woot
[07:48] <tigrang> wiggmpk, I think setting up ubuntu one to sync automatically would be wise :P
[07:48] <wiggmpk> tigrang: thats probably a good idea =)
[07:48] <histo> hilarie: I moutn log in ram because I have an SSD and I dont' care about hte logs after reboot
[07:49] <hilarie> histo ahhh
[07:49] <lupfantomo> Hi all.  I've recently upgraded to 12.10 and my connection is painfully slow whether plugged in or wireless.  I've followed everything I can find googling for a solution with no luck.  Any ideas?
[07:50] <dan_> hi i am having trouble getting wine to work
[07:50] <Guest55717> about half the time i run it it says it can't find my .exe file
[07:50] <Guest55717> the other half it works fine
[07:50] <theadmin> lupfantomo: Try disabling IPv6 (in NetworkManager, click "Edit" on your connection, go to "IPv6 Settings" and set "Method" to "Ignore", then reconnect)
[07:50] <tripelb> i've neen asking here for 1.5 weeks about my partitions. 5 min on #linux and the advice was delete the non-windows ones. I go discover cfdisk...do it. Magic! gparted and the installer now work. Whew. Been a long strange trip
[07:51] <_dan_> anyone know how to debug it?
[07:51] <amiu> "Download Ubuntu One for Windows!"  <--- Why is this so damn funny?
[07:51] <amiu> wrong room...
[07:51] <lupfantomo> theadmin: I've done that.  I've also updated the drivers, and tried wicd(now back on network manager).  Nothing seems to help.  Windows is fine with it so I don't think it is a hardware issue.
[07:51] <hilarie> tripelb lol, nice
[07:51] <tripelb> :P
[07:51] <kunji> hilarie: I actually opted to have a different machine handle the other two functions, mainly because of a lack of a good way to get fast file I/O on this machine (only USB 2.0 and only space inside for a single drive).  I'm now repurposing it as a light desktop system since I got a new router and put dd-wrt on it.
[07:51] <tripelb> hil
[07:52] <theadmin> lupfantomo: Hm... Interesting.
[07:52] <theadmin> lupfantomo: (that means I don't know what the problem is :D)
[07:52] <_dan_> or, any advice for updating wine to a non buggy version? i assumed the one in the repos would be ok
[07:52] <_dan_> i am using 12.04
[07:52] <helmut_> hi
[07:52] <theadmin> _dan_: Wine doesn't have a "non-buggy version", it's not perfect, probably will never be
[07:52] <Tex_Nick> kunji : i hear you ... a kludge would be to place a capacitor ( polyethelene non-polarized ) .o1 pf across the audio sig &gnd lines ... problem is the noise is on the buis ... i wonder if it might get worse with time ... maybe start causind data corruption
[07:52] <lupfantomo> theadmin: I've yelled in rage a few times and am horribly close to turning the laptop into a paper weight. :D
[07:52] <kunji> _dan_: There is not non buggy version
[07:53] <kunji> *not a non..
[07:53] <_dan_> well ok, one that at least is consistent in failing :/
[07:53] <lupfantomo> Guess I'll go back to 12.04.  But tomorrow.  My head is aching too much now.
[07:53] <histo> !appdb | _dan_
[07:53] <theadmin> _dan_: You can find instructions on getting the latest Wine version on http://winehq.org
[07:53] <theadmin> _dan_: That's much as I can say
[07:53] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, well, I'll just watch it carefully for now, if it give me any further problems I'll try that, thanks ^_^
[07:53] <histo> _dan_: the other option is running a winblows virtual machine seamlessly
[07:54] <_dan_> that is not going to be fast enough
[07:54] <_dan_> i want to run avisynth, virtualization would bloat it too much i think
[07:54] <histo> _dan_: what does avisynth do perhaps there is an opensource alternative
[07:54] <tripelb> hilarie: thanks. no one here could deal with partitions.  nice to know where to go. Moral we need a page on how to overwrite an ubuntu pver a prev. installation. or an option to do so in the installer. i guessed and messed it up.
[07:55] <kunji> _dan_: Dual boot is the the best way to do it, as much as I hate to run Windows....
[07:55] <Tex_Nick> kunji : it might also be comming from the power supply ... switching power supplys generarte a lot of emi ... that's why they are in their own box ... you might try another pS to see
[07:55] <_dan_> avisynth is a video processing / scripting program, it is open source
[07:55] <_dan_> it just relies too much on directshow / vfw to work on linux currently
[07:55] <histo> _dan_: Do they posibly have a linux version?
[07:56] <_dan_> their linux version is probably even more unstable than running it in wine :)
[07:56]  * Tex_Nick DCC's kunji a BIG hammer ờᴗớ
[07:56] <we6jbo> Hi
[07:56] <kunji> Tex_Nick: Hmm, the power block is external actually, it's a NT510: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856119026
[07:57] <damhyojung> hi all
[07:57] <we6jbo> I have a question
[07:57] <kunji> !ask | we6jbo
[07:57] <histo> _dan_: Doubtfull
[07:57] <yatriga> is there anything called as smc fancontrol like in mac
[07:57] <yatriga> to change thr rpn via gui?
[07:57] <Tex_Nick> ahh , ok looked at it ... it uses a brick ps
[07:57] <histo> _dan_: I would try the linux version over running through wine. and there is this I also found http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/AviSynth_v3
[07:58] <tigrang> Does ubuntu one usually take a really long time for syncing? (at least the first time)
[07:58] <amiu> spend $5 on a hardware fan controller?
[07:58] <_dan_> avisynth v3 is not even in alpha state yet :)
[07:58] <amiu> theres avidemux
[07:58] <yatriga> amiu i can spend?
[07:58] <kunji> Yatriga: I don't think I've heard of anyone using a gui for it, nor of a program with that name on Ubuntu, I could be wrong though.
[07:59] <amiu> yeah. a thing that goes in one of your empty drive bays with knobs that you turn yourself to control fan speed
[07:59] <yatriga> kunji dont u think we need one
[07:59] <kunji> _dan_: Are you trying to edit video or convert files, if the later, then I would suggest ffmpeg, though it has a steep learning curve.
[08:00] <amiu> theres a lot of stuff id like to have. like an overclocking tool for something becides GPU
[08:00] <theadmin> kunji: There's winff which makes it easier :P
[08:00] <kunji> theadmin: Yeah, but it doesn't cover a lot of cases, good place to start though.
[08:01] <we6jbo> I have a PPA USB to Serial Adapter and I want to plug a serial device into it and access it through Ubuntu
[08:01] <_dan_> i am mostly converting files
[08:01] <kunji> tigrang: In my experience yes, the first time at least takes quite a while to sync.
[08:01] <tigrang> kunji, ok, thanks
[08:02] <histo> _dan_: then use ffmpeg
[08:02] <amiu> i've been using OpenShot for conversion
[08:02] <theadmin> _dan_: Then just use winff or ffmpeg or mencoder
[08:02] <amiu> little overkill but it does the job n its easy to use
[08:03] <yatriga> Thanks
[08:04] <user__> how are you
[08:04] <kunji> amiu: I'm pretty sure OpenShot uses ffmpeg underneath.  It might be good for his uses, I haven't tried it before, I don't know how much of ffmpeg's functionality it exposes.
[08:05] <histo> we6jbo: plug it in and use it then
[08:06] <we6jbo> I tried but I couldn't seem to get it to work
[08:06] <dydzEz2> man i need to find a good grub splash image
[08:07] <yatriga> best application to design web apps
[08:07] <histo> !best | yatriga
[08:07] <kunji> !details | we6jbo
[08:07] <yatriga> ok dok
[08:09] <we6jbo> Well I have a program called D-Rats that I installed and a D-Star radio. I plugged the radio into the Serial to USB converter which goes in the laptop but when I setup d-rats I couldnt seem to connect and it gave me errors. It asked where the serial port was /dev/ttyUSB0 is what I have it set at
[08:09] <lucido> hi, how can I active remote desktop from the terminal?
[08:10] <histo> we6jbo: lookat dmesg and see what port it actually is
[08:11] <histo> !vnc | lucido
[08:12] <we6jbo> Ill have to try that when I'm in the car again sometime tomorrow
[08:13] <amiu> okay how about is there anything that has more features (prefurably WYSIWYG) than Bluefish?
[08:13] <histo> we6jbo: If the machine hasn't been shut off the info is still probably in dmesg
[08:13] <histo> we6jbo: Also i'm assuming that's probably the wrong portname
[08:14] <we6jbo> it wouldnt be in /dev would it?
[08:15] <histo> we6jbo: Yes but it depends which usb port it's plugged into.
[08:16] <histo> we6jbo: It may be on a different port depends where you plug it in etc...
[08:18] <histo> we6jbo: But basically when you have the hardware in front of you. sudo dmesg -c   to clear dmesg.  Then hook up your stuff. and check the output of dmesg  It should show you the device name.
[08:20] <MK`> How do I check which programs are using an amount of bandwidth?
[08:20] <histo> MK`: ntop I believe shows with process is using bandwidth
[08:20] <MK`> alright thanks
[08:21] <dydzEz2> is there a GUI application now a days for changing grub splash screens
[08:21] <dydzEz2> i found a post but its so old
[08:21] <we6jbo> Could that be it 1.105496] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial.
[08:22] <histo> we6jbo: just below that.
[08:22] <histo> we6jbo: dmesg | grep usb
[08:23] <histo> we6jbo: You should see something like now attached to ttyUSBx
[08:23] <histo> dmesg | grep tty I guess would work also
[08:25] <lucido> kj
[08:28] <StuartIanNaylor> Anyone know how to force 12.04 kernel to load the software raid modules?
[08:29] <StuartIanNaylor> My server is banging out during grub because the raid5 / (root) partition isn't being detected
[08:30] <vedic> Hi friends, I have setup logwatch which is sending email every day. It was sending log data from ssh log file as well (number of successful attempts, illegal user attempts, failed attempts etc) but now it is not appearing
[08:30] <vedic> How to fix this?
[08:31] <Alocer> look in your spam folder
[08:32] <vedic> Alocer: Spam folder? I do get email but attached log file is missing data from ssh log files which logwatcher used to collect before
[08:33] <Alocer> sry vedic i cant help more than that i have no idea what s logwatcher . i mean i have never worked with it.
[08:34] <we6jbo> is it possible that if the serial device isn't setup property and I have the USB Serial plugged in that I won't see TTYUSB?
[08:34] <Wug> I fixed the problem of not being able to login
[08:34] <Wug> somehow root got a hold of my .Xauthority
[08:34] <dydzEz2> anyone know a good site for gub splash images
[08:34] <kunji> Come to think of it, how do you overclock in Ubuntu?  Or do we basically just let the BIOS handle things like that?  I know for the Raspberry Pi you can do it with directives in a file that is read on boot (for Raspbian), but they're dealing with a pretty particular piece of hardware.
[08:35] <Wug> kunji: let the bios do it
[08:35] <Alocer> :P
[08:36] <BlackDalek> what is an easy/fastest way to convert ogv video file to an mpeg2 mpg file of similar quality?
[08:37] <kunji> Wug: Right, that's my general approach, I suppose the question is, does it always go through the bios.  So do apps for overclocking basically just change the bios/send bios directives.  Or is there something actually exposed directly to the OS level that could allow more direct runtime changes?