[12:01] <sparr> interesting.  faster than dash?
[12:01] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: put your local installation at the front of your $PATH
[12:01] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: the launchers use relative, not absolute, paths
[12:01] <sethk> sparr, I think you type the fewest characters with zsh.  I haven't used dash much, though.  I assume it's the default because it's low overhead.
[12:02] <sethk> sparr, might be the dash from busybox, I'll have to check.
[12:02] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: ln -s /usr/bin/firefox /home/patrick/Packages/firefox/firefox
[12:02] <crimsun> Commander-Crow1: pastebin ``lspci -vn && amixer''
[12:02] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: erk :/ I think the easiest solution was just put into offtopic, symlink it to /usr/local/bin/firefox
[12:02] <soundray> Commander-Crow1: run 'lspci -vn && amixer' and post the output on the pastebin
[12:02] <ubuntu_newb> Hello everyone.
[12:02] <dibblego> the network-admin applet crashes each time I try to use it
[12:02] <sparr> sethk: err, i mean faster for running scripts.  thats why i use dash instead of bash for sh, it cuts minutes off some long scripts
[12:02] <Commander-Crow1> ok
[12:02] <Commander-Crow1> will do
[12:02] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: /usr/local/bin by default has priority over /usr/bin
[12:02] <sethk> sparr, right, just startup time would be a lot quicker
[12:03] <sparr> sethk: openoffice 'configure' script runs over a minute faster in dash than bash  :)
[12:03] <cynical> not that it would make a difference
[12:03] <sethk> sparr, interesting.
[12:03] <Homer_Linux> yeah ive thyed the gnome-panel and i get this error "ive detected a panel already running ,and will now exit"
[12:03] <SilentDis> hello :)
[12:04] <kikokos_> hello
[12:04] <kikokos_> culd somebody help me?
[12:04] <SilentDis> quicky question:  how do i change the default app that opens when I insert an audio cd?  (dapper)
[12:04] <squidly> hello anyone here using nagios?
[12:04] <soundray> Homer_Linux: is starting over with a new gnome configuration an option?
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: how would I delete the existing firefox symlink in /usr/local/bin/firefox
[12:04] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: you don't need to
[12:04] <kikokos_> I added new user but I dont have userdirectory /home/....
[12:04] <SilentDis> !nagios
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nagios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <kikokos_> what`s up?
[12:04] <soundray> SilentDis: System-Preferences-Removable...
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: it aint working
[12:05] <squidly> SilentDis: i have nagios installed but I messed up and over wrote a config file i need ><
[12:05] <kikokos_> I have my ol user directory/home/username/
[12:05] <SilentDis> squidly:  what is nagios?
[12:05] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: type "hash -r"
[12:05] <LjL> kikokos_: how did you add the user?
[12:05] <salim> hi, wine does hardly work, because I often get error message that he cant import dlls and outputs strange symbols: err:module:import_dll Library
[12:05] <n1gke> kikokos_, just ask your question and perhaps someone will help you, now or later.
[12:05] <SilentDis> soundray: thanks :)
[12:05] <adele_> I have followed the guide to install ATI driver at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but its not working. I have tried the troubleshooting thing but it doesn't work. Can somebody help me out?
[12:05] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: the link, or calling firefox?
[12:05] <kikokos_> adduser
[12:05] <squidly> nagios is a monitoring utility
[12:05] <Daviey> salim, you can normally find the dll's wine requires by searching google
[12:05] <Paddy_EIRE> joevandyk:  calling firefox
[12:06] <specialbuddy> is there a way to go from ubuntu to kubuntu without reinstalling
[12:06] <LjL> kikokos_: that's weird, it should definitely create a home unless you instruct it not to. tried again?
[12:06] <kikokos_> ljl I used adduser
[12:06] <LjL> specialbuddy: you can install kubuntu-desktop, that won't remove gnome though
[12:06] <soundray> specialbuddy: 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'
[12:06] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox; echo $PATH
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> mcphail: what did that do
[12:06] <salim> the point is I cant search the dlls because I dont know what dlls he wants, he just outputs strange question marks: err:module:import_dll Library
[12:06] <DanSchnell> I still can't get ubuntu to boot correctly from LiveCD.  Can I get some help?
[12:06] <specialbuddy> is there a way to get rid of ubuntu after that?
[12:06] <NemesisUK> anyone here use a dvb card?
[12:06] <kikokos_> yes I tried again with another user name Iand I dont have usercatalogs in /home
[12:06] <soundray> !bootoptions | DanSchnell
[12:06] <ubotu> DanSchnell: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[12:06] <kalikiana> anyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?
[12:06] <Daviey> NemesisUK, yes
[12:06] <LjL> specialbuddy: not really... you can remove libgnome, and it'll remove most of the stuff.
[12:06] <Commander-Crowe> pastebin isn't working is there something else?
[12:06] <kikokos_> I work in recovery mode on edgy
[12:06] <Homer_Linux> sondray sorry mate is late what do you mean
[12:07] <SilentDis> adele_: i have some bad news... i had the same problem, couldn't get acceleration working at all.  I ended up dropping in an NVidia card and not looking back.
[12:07] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: it told BASH to check your $PATH for firefox again, rather than remembering where it looked last time
[12:07] <LjL> Commander-Crowe: pastebin.ca
[12:07] <LjL> Commander-Crowe: it's working for me anyway
[12:07] <kikokos_> ljl it`s to me about remove libgni\ome..
[12:07] <kikokos_> ?
[12:07] <salim> is there a utf8/westerniso error maybe?
[12:07] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: my firefox link is not there
[12:07] <soundray> Homer_Linux: have you put a lot of work in your gnome configuration?
[12:07] <DanSchnell> Soundray, None of those work
[12:07] <jorgp> specialbuddy, yes, in /etc/apt/sources.list change ubuntu to kubuntu, apt-get update and your off apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <NemesisUK> Daviey, how do I get sound from the card, I have video
[12:07] <DanSchnell> I think it may have something to do with having a custom built computetr
[12:07] <cntb> how do I see users in channel in xchat ubuntu ?
[12:07] <LjL> kikokos_: no, i said specialbuddy
[12:07] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: you need to make the link with sudo, ie 'ln -s *firefox path* /usr/local/bin/firefox
[12:07] <JosefK> '
[12:07] <Homer_Linux> soundray ;(  yes but never mind
[12:07] <JosefK> erk, sudo ln -s.
[12:07] <soundray> DanSchnell: describe your problem
[12:08] <kikokos_> LjL ok but have you any suggest :)?
[12:08] <LjL> kikokos_: try typing "ls -l / | grep home" and pasting the output
[12:08] <Daviey> NemesisUK, it just worked!  have you looked at alsamixer?
[12:08] <mandelum> Can I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?
[12:08] <LjL> kikokos_, patience. i have only 10 fingers
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: ahhh
[12:08] <salim> cntb: click on the users button on the left bottom, it is labeled with "1030 Users"
[12:08] <kikokos_> ljl drwxr-xr-x   5 root jer   4096 Nov  1 16:07 home
[12:08] <kalikiana> anyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?
[12:08] <NemesisUK> Daviey, I knew I'd forgetton something cheers I'll give that a go
[12:08] <xenakis> if I want to put a script to execute regardless of runlevel, where should I put the symbolic link to it?
[12:08] <DanSchnell> soundray, when I select "start or install Ubuntu" it loads but then my screen gets all purple and doesn't show the desktop
[12:08] <SilentDis> soundray: i switched it to gaim, i assume I have to restart gnome after?
[12:08] <kikokos_> ljl jer=new user
[12:08] <soundray> Homer_Linux: exit gnome, log into a failsafe session and run 'rm ~/.gnome*'
[12:09] <LjL> kikokos_: uh, why did you make the group of /home "jer"?
[12:09] <kikokos_> ljl that`s good u have them
[12:09] <cntb> Salihu,  dont have it
[12:09] <soundray> DanSchnell: have you tried the safe graphics option?
[12:09] <LjL> kikokos_: wait, what is the *exact* command you used?
[12:09] <io_pcg> hello
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: it still aint working
[12:09] <zambatrue> hi guys.
[12:09] <Homer_Linux> thanks soundray bbiab
[12:09] <SilentDis> soundray: er, grip, sorry lol
[12:09] <Commander-Crowe> http://pastebin.ca/233434
[12:09] <kikokos_> ljl adduser
[12:09] <Daviey> NemesisUK, presumably you have "dvb-utils dvbstream" installed?
[12:09] <zambatrue> quick link to edgy repos please?
[12:09] <LjL> kikokos_: without any parameters?
[12:09] <Commander-Crowe> soundray: http://pastebin.ca/233434
[12:09] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: does that 'ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox; echo $PATH' work?
[12:09] <kikokos_> ljl yes without
[12:09] <soundray> SilentDis: no, you don't
[12:09] <mandelum> Can I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?
[12:10] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/233434
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: what is it supposed to do
[12:10] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: your $PATH should have /usr/local/bin closer to the start of the line than /usr/bin
[12:10] <LjL> kikokos_: ok, i'm not understanding why /home has group "jer". did you set this manually?
[12:10] <DanSchnell> Soundray, Yes, I can take a picture of it if you would like so you can see what I am experiencing
[12:10] <io_pcg> I would to know how to execute the program c++ that I installed with synaptic
[12:10] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: the 'ls -l' just shows you where the link points to, the echo shows us what's in your PATH variable (where programs are searched for)
[12:10] <kalikiana> anyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?
[12:10] <kitche> io_pcg: do you mean g++?
[12:10] <kikokos_> ljl o g maybe i was so sleepy yesterday
[12:11] <Daviey> io_pcg, do you mean c++ development enviroment or just the compiler?
[12:11] <kikokos_> but what should i do now?
[12:11] <io_pcg> umm not c++ is a language
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: /usr/local/sbin
[12:11] <sethk> io_pcg, you mean the c++ compiler?
[12:11] <soundray> DanSchnell: I don't really think I can be of any help -- just wanted to check the obvious
[12:11] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: there should be /usr/local/bin there too
[12:11] <io_pcg> yes
[12:11] <kikokos_> ljl how to delete this group?
[12:11] <io_pcg> the compiler
[12:11] <SilentDis> soundray: duh of the day, changed the wrong thing rofl.
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: yes its second
[12:11] <DanSchnell> Can anyone else help me?
[12:11] <sethk> io_pcg, usually it's /usr/bin/g++
[12:11] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: then if the link checks out, type 'firefox' into a console and see which you get
[12:11] <LjL> kikokos_: well, i'm not sure how the problem might have arisen, but i'd do:   "sudo chown root:root /home ; sudo deluser jer ; sudo adduser jer"
[12:11] <soundray> DanSchnell: you will have to describe your problem again.
[12:12] <SilentDis> soundray: works fine when I do it right, of course.  rofl.  thank you :)
[12:12] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: that looks like an onboard driven by snd-intel8x0, not your audigy ls
[12:12] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: command not found
[12:12] <n1gke> DanSchnell, just ask the question and someone will help you, now or later.....
[12:12] <Daviey> io_pcg, you should just be able to type 'g++' in the console
[12:12] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: oops
[12:12] <DanSchnell> Soundray, I will take a picture, I will be back in a few moments
[12:12] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: are you sure the link points to the right place? check the 'ls -l' output carefully
[12:12] <Homer_Linux> soundray is a directory wont let me remove iit
[12:12] <io_pcg> for example: sudo g++?
[12:12] <NemesisUK> Daviey, just checked alsamixer the cards in there and the volumes are all set but I still get no sound
[12:12] <io_pcg> c++ sorry!
[12:12] <Agrajag> io_pcg: no, just g++
[12:12] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: but I tried that one and it still didn't work
[12:12] <io_pcg> ok
[12:12] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: pastebin ``cat ~/.asoundrc*'', too
[12:12] <io_pcg> let me check hehe
[12:12] <Daviey> NemesisUK, presumably you have "dvb-utils dvbstream" installed?
[12:13] <Agrajag> io_pcg: don't use sudo unless you need root privileges
[12:13] <NemesisUK> Daviey, yes
[12:13] <sethk> io_pcg, there should also be a link c++, so you can use either
[12:13] <LjL> io_pcg: C++ is a language, g++ (part of the GCC project) is a compiler that compiles C++
[12:13] <soundray> Homer_Linux: sorry, it has to be 'rm -rf .gnome*'. Don't do it while gnome is running, otherwise it'll write the old data back.
[12:13] <Commander-Crowe> it says no such dur
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: it just says "File exists" each time I try to symlink it to anywhere
[12:13] <Commander-Crowe> dir*
[12:13] <SilentDis> thanks again, rather glad I switched to ubuntu, never have I found a linux community so helpful.
[12:13] <kikokos_> ljl,Cannot remove group jer which is a primary group for another user
[12:13] <sethk> Paddy_EIRE, that means the _link_ exists already
[12:13] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: no such dir
[12:13] <SilentDis> take care all :)
[12:13] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: you're getting the symlink the correct way round?  ln [source]  [destination]
[12:13] <Daviey> NemesisUK, what are you using to watch tv?
[12:13] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: ok, now pastebin ``cat /var/log/dmesg /proc/interrupts''
[12:13] <eugman> The pipe to program option in evolution is having some problems being set right.
[12:13] <lobosque> how do i add some lines to be executed when ubuntu starts?
[12:13] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: ooops
[12:13] <NemesisUK> saa7134 dvb card
[12:14] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: dw :P I made that mistake plenty of times too
[12:14] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell lobosque about boot
[12:14] <soundray> lobosque: add them to /etc/rc.local (to be run as root)
[12:14] <Daviey> NemesisUK, sorry i mean't software
[12:14] <LjL> lobosque: hint: /etc/rc.local - other hint: they'll be executed as root
[12:14] <cntb> hi
[12:14] <lobosque> wow, this bot is inteliggent
[12:14] <io_pcg> the comand says that there aren't aplication in the enter :S
[12:14] <lobosque> LjL thanks
[12:14] <kalikiana> anyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?
[12:14] <NemesisUK> Daviey, ive tried xine and kaffiene
[12:14] <Arrick> hey, does ubuntu breezy have support for the Radeon X800 GTO video card?
[12:14] <Arrick> if not how about dapper?
[12:15] <phillip> wats a good media converter ?
[12:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell arrick about hardware
[12:15] <JosefK> !ffmpeg > phillip
[12:15] <kikokos_> ljl it cannot remove it
[12:15] <JosefK> there isn't a good GUI for it though, I'm working on one atm
[12:15] <LjL> kikokos_: what does it say
[12:15] <mandelum> Can I update from edgy RC1 to the final release, is there anything else to  do than to install all the automatic updates? or should I reinstall?
[12:15] <Arrick> LjL, I was asking because the live cd works, but the default install doesnt, any tricks forit?
[12:15] <LjL> mandelum: automatic updates should be fine
[12:15] <Daviey> NemesisUK, hmm - i only tested mine on mplayer.  not that it should matter, but worth a try
[12:15] <kikokos_> ljl userdel: Cannot remove group jer which is a primary group for another user.
[12:15] <kikokos_> done.
[12:15] <kikokos_> adduser: The group `jer' already exists.
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: nice one
[12:16] <eugman> Can someone help me with my evolution problem?
[12:16] <NemesisUK> Daviey, I'll go install that brb
[12:16] <soundray> eugman: what are you trying to evolve into?
[12:16] <LjL> Arrick: i don't know. perhaps try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a console, if you can get to it (otherwise use recovery mode), and tinker. select VESA driver if nothing else works.
[12:16] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: np's
[12:16] <lobosque> LjL must I remove the "exit 0" line?
[12:16] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/233457
[12:16] <LjL> lobosque: no
[12:17] <LjL> kikokos_: ... another user? type, as your own user, "groups". are you a member of group "jer"?
[12:17] <io_pcg> if I writte g++ in the console they say that there aren't packets in the enter
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: will all the other users at my comp beable to benefit from this or should I have put the extracted firefox directory somewhere else other than "/home/myname/Packages/firefox" ??
[12:17] <eugman> Soundray, a linux user. Unfortunately that seems to require a massive amount of energy. Or someone who can get the mail program set right.
[12:18] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: you can use chmod and friends so they can, but yes, installing as root to /opt or /usr/local would be preferable
[12:18] <kikokos_> ljl  i dont want to log as another user cause it has bad gonfiguration gnome
[12:18] <soundray> eugman: your best bet is to describe your problem and hope for an evolution expert to be listening.
[12:18] <kalikiana> anyone knowledge about dsl usb modems?
[12:18] <LjL> kikokos_, i said as your *own* user. type "groups" and see if you are a member of "jer"
[12:18] <soundray> kalikiana: is this a survey?
[12:19] <Arrick> thanks
[12:19] <sethk> kalikiana, slightly.  ask your question, see if someone might know the answer
[12:19] <io_pcg> if I writte g++ in the console they say that there aren't packets in the enter, what I have to do?
[12:19] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: what If I chmod the entire Packages folder then they would beable to use it wouldnt they
[12:19] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: ie, cd to the base of your firefox installation, and run 'chmod -R 755 .'
[12:19] <LjL> io_pcg, i'm sorry, but i can't understand your english
[12:19] <kalikiana> soundray: i just seek for help getting my usb modem to work :(
[12:19] <sethk> io_pcg, it will say "no input files", is that what you mean?
[12:19] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: indeed
[12:19] <soundray> io_pcg: your question doesn't make sense
[12:19] <eugman> soundray, Well my problem is more ubuntu related. A change in the UI seems to have made specifying a program with an argument impossible.
[12:20] <sethk> io_pcg, you give it a file name.  it's a compiler, you have to tell it what file to compile.
[12:20] <soundray> kalikiana: describe the problem
[12:20] <kikokos_> ljl root@jo-desktop:~# groups
[12:20] <kikokos_> root
[12:20] <kikokos_> root@jo-desktop:~#
[12:20] <io_pcg> sethk yes sorry ^_^''''
[12:20] <LjL> kikokos_, *NOT* as root, as your *OWN* user
[12:20] <io_pcg> ammm ok, and the compiler?
[12:20] <soundray> eugman: be *even more* specific
[12:20] <nothlit> Hi, I've install gtk-engines-pixmap and restarted x but still get this message Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[12:20] <Paddy_EIRE> JosefK: what do I type "sudo chmod -R 755 /home/patrick/Packages" ???
[12:20] <kalikiana> soundray: i have 'castlenet' dsl modem connected via usb and i don't know how to install it
[12:20] <io_pcg> sorry, the program to do a program...
[12:21] <io_pcg> how I have to execute?
[12:21] <kikokos_> ljl i`m in recovery cause my own user has bad cofiguration gnome
[12:21] <mcphail> Paddy_EIRE: the problem with that solution is that your users are going to get firefox2 when they may be expecting/wanting/needing 1.5
[12:21] <io_pcg> hahahaah
[12:21] <Daviey> io_pcg, Have you thought about using a development enviroment like kdevelop?  Then you can use menu's to compile
[12:21] <Twiggy> Hey I'm on a fresh edgy install and for whatever reason my right alt/ctrl keys don't work, but the left ones do.  This worked before on an dapper -> edgy upgraded install.  Any ideas what could be up?
[12:21] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: yes, although check what permissions it has already
[12:21] <nirvdrum> Yo.
[12:21] <Paddy_EIRE> mcphail: that does not matter
[12:21] <JosefK> Paddy_EIRE: and as mcphail said, that could be a problem
[12:21] <mcphail> ok
[12:21] <ubuntu_newb> I just installed ubuntu on my second pc
[12:21] <voraistos> !ati
[12:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:21] <soundray> kalikiana: does the modem show up when you enter 'lsusb'?
[12:21] <ubuntu_newb> what would be a good list of packages to install for the basic stuff
[12:21] <LjL> kikokos_: i'm afraid it's not just your gnome config that is bad. anyway, type "groups your-username"
[12:22] <ubuntu_newb> I just installed all the updates.
[12:22] <io_pcg> yes I have already install, but...it don't apear in my first menu...and I don't know how to execute...:S
[12:22] <LjL> kikokos_: and please paste only the output line, don't spam the channel
[12:22] <kalikiana> soundray: in fact since i plugged it in, lsusb doesn't respond any more
[12:22] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: there don't appear to be any interrupts processed for the ca0106
[12:22] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: is the onboard intel sound disabled in bios?
[12:22] <eugman> Whenever I edit a rule in evolution it says to specify a file. So I type in the location for the program to pipe to along with the corresponding argument and click ok. When I edit the rule again the problem seems to revert itself.
[12:22] <soundray> kalikiana: then your USB hardware is hung. Not worth trying anything else until you reboot.
[12:22] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: then i better test it out
[12:22] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: no
[12:23] <xenakis> !samba
[12:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:23] <Daviey> io_pcg, Hmm, should be in Applications -> Programming -> Kdevelop.  If not, press alt+f2 and type kdevelop
[12:23] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: try disabling onboard in bios first
[12:23] <kikokos_> ljl jo : jo adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:23] <dredhammer> can someone tell me whats the easiest way to downgrade from edgy to dapper?
[12:23] <morphish> ubuntu_newb: mplayer xmms xchat gaim azureus <--- basic stuff
[12:23] <kalikiana> soundray: can you give me any hints in advance?
[12:23] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun: I have tried there is no way :(
[12:23] <crimsun> dredhammer: reinstall 6.06.1
[12:23] <ianmacgregor> !downgrade
[12:23] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[12:23] <morphish> dredhammer: reinstall fresh
[12:24] <MtJB> no lo va, no va, no beryl on edgy it don't go
[12:24] <MtJB> not after svn, at least
[12:24] <LjL> kikokos_: ok, type "cat /etc/group | grep jer", and tell me who's a member of this jer group
[12:24] <dredhammer> no way to save the home folder?
[12:24] <SamuelDr> !nm
[12:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:24] <io_pcg> daviey it seems impossible but the both options don't work
[12:24] <morphish> beryl? no vale!
[12:24] <SamuelDr> !networkmanager
[12:24] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[12:24] <Daviey> io_pcg, i would suggest you try to reinstall "sudo apt-get install kdevelop3"
[12:24] <kikokos_> ljl jer:x:1001:
[12:25] <soundray> kalikiana: search the web for your device ID once you get it from lsusb.
[12:25] <io_pcg> why 3?
[12:25] <phillip> josefk: im talkinga bout an actual progf
[12:25] <nirvdrum> Does anyone happen to have any idea why Edgy might load with a blank screen, even when using the safe graphics mode?  I'm trying to install on an AMD 64 (although the i386 version) with an ATi AIW 9600.
[12:25] <Commander-Crowe> how do I get into console mode?
[12:25] <phillip> does anyone know a converter gui based prog?
[12:25] <soundray> kalikiana: combine the ID with Linux as a search keyword
[12:25] <Commander-Crowe> or turn off X
[12:25] <kalikiana> soundray: which program/ command can i use to connect then?
[12:25] <nirvdrum> Obviously, not being able to see anything is a bit of a hinderance.
[12:25] <phillip> i cant seem to emulate imtoo progs w. wine
[12:25] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: ctrl+alt+F1
[12:25] <Commander-Crowe> so I can install the nVidia driver
[12:25] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[12:26] <crimsun> Commander-Crowe: once you log in there, you'll need to execute: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[12:26] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[12:26] <cabal_> hi
[12:26] <Commander-Crowe> well
[12:26] <Commander-Crowe> its Xfce
[12:26] <io_pcg> well...Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:26] <Commander-Crowe> Xubuntu
[12:26] <crimsun> yes, we use gdm in Xubuntu.
[12:26] <LjL> kikokos_: does "delgroup jer" work?
[12:27] <Daviey> io_pcg, do you have any other installer stuff running?
[12:27] <SamuelDr> Hi,
[12:27] <Daviey> io_pcg, ie synaptic
[12:27] <kikokos_> ljl /usr/sbin/delgroup: `groupname' still has `jer' as their primary group!
[12:27] <soundray> kalikiana: if you manage to get the driver working, it's just a matter of setting up a connection with System-Administration-Networking
[12:27] <Commander-Crowe> ok
[12:27] <SamuelDr> I'd like to know where the "nm-applet" saves its configuration...
[12:27] <kikokos_> ljl hmm so sorry i`m really new in these things
[12:28] <kalikiana> soundray: ok, so'll try it and restart now; thank you so far :)
[12:28] <LjL> kikokos_, "cat /etc/passwd | grep groupname", and also "cat /etc/group | grep groupname" -- shows anything?
[12:29] <squidly> damn it I keep getting problems with I try to down load and inst all nagios
[12:29] <vidd> I installed a printer server on my computer and it works! I documented the steps I took.
[12:29] <kikokos_> ljl first: "groupname:x:1002:1001::/home/groupname:/bin/sh"
[12:29] <SamuelDr> would it be possible to know where the "nm-applet" saves its configuration... or at least direct me on a channel where I would get suitable help, thanks
[12:29] <vidd> Now Im getting ready to do the same with apache2
[12:29] <nothlit> Hi, can someone tell me why I get Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap", after I've installed gtk-engines-pixmap and restarted X ?
[12:30] <LjL> kikokos_, you have created a user whose name is "groupname". i'm not sure what you've been doing, but it wasn't too good.
[12:30] <sethk> SamuelDr, run it under strace, the grep for open in the output.  you'll see what files it uses
[12:30] <LjL> kikokos_, try "deluser groupname"
[12:31] <kikokos_> ljl ok it`s done
[12:31] <SamuelDr> thanks sethk !
[12:31] <LjL> kikokos_: now try again "deluser jer"
[12:31] <jvai> samueldr: maybe in "search for files" in the places part of the panel.. make a search thru the filesystem
[12:31] <kikokos_> ljl jer also doesn`t exist now
[12:32] <LjL> kikokos_: type "delgroup jer"
[12:32] <chad> heyas guys
[12:32] <kikokos_> ljl ok removed
[12:32] <SamuelDr> jvai, I already searched through my system for "*nm*" and "*network*" | grep manager
[12:33] <jvai> oo sorry
[12:33] <cabal_> bye
[12:33] <_spanner_> If I have a process that's holding on to a file handle, but the file has been deleted on the filesystem... is there any way to get that file back? I had expected the ln command to maybe take an inode number or something like that.
[12:33] <LjL> kikokos_: type "chown root:root /home ; chown -R jo:jo /home/jo"  (assuming your username is jo, if i got it correctly)
[12:34] <SamuelDr> well, gprep-ping the strace for open didn't really work... I get an awfully long list of anything... not even related to open
[12:34] <craz4eva> hi guys.... I've just installed some updates just now and gnome-terminal now refused to start
[12:34] <kikokos_> ljl i think it`s done
[12:34] <LjL> _spanner_: "lsof" will give you the node i think
[12:34] <sveur> anyone know how i kan grant non-roots access to a drive?
[12:34] <craz4eva> anyone having the same problem?
[12:34] <LjL> kikokos_: now type "adduser jer"
[12:34] <SamuelDr> I get the exact same thing as if I only strace
[12:34] <kitche> sveur: use umask
[12:34] <Homer_Linux> soundray didnt work ;( still have no panels
[12:34] <sveur> where?
[12:35] <kikokos_> ljl Creating home directory `/home/jer  :):)
[12:35] <sveur> kitche: how?
[12:35] <SamuelDr> anyway, brb
[12:35] <_spanner_> LjL: thanks, but what can I do with that? It seems it should be possible in theory to make a new file with that inode, and yet I can't find any way to do it...
[12:35] <LjL> kikokos_: ok, now the user should be there, and *perhaps* your own "jo" user will work again (just perhaps, the second chown command i've given you might have done the trick). try rebooting into multiuser mode
[12:35] <deema> how come Ubuntu doesn't show the icon of a file, such an .exe, it only shows the default Ubuntu icon for that file TYPE?
[12:35] <kitche> sveyr: man umask I m not a user of umask so I can't really tell you how to use it
[12:36] <jvai> samueldr.. i'm searching now thru my box for nm, so far "dpkg.status.0 /var/backups 1.1MB , & it's still searchin
[12:36] <relbs> I'm trying to compile a kernel module with make-kpkg, so I unpacked it to /usr/src/modules, did a make-kpkg clean ; make-kpkg debian modules_image, but I get an error message 'The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h \ "" \ does not match current version: \ "<IP_ADDRESS>-ubuntu1'
[12:36] <relbs> what option do i need to tweak?
[12:36] <sethk> deema, if it knows the MIME type, it connects it with an icon.  Names, in non-toy operating systems, are irrelevant.  the name doesn't say anything about the type
[12:36] <chad> i have a logitech usb headset(earphones) i can choose and enable it in alsa mixer.. volume is up and all.. but i get no sound or errors
[12:36] <kikokos_> ljl ok but what should i write as full name after psswrd?
[12:36] <sveur> kitche: no man entry for umask
[12:36] <soundray> Homer_Linux: you may need to 'rm -rf ~/.gconf*' as well
[12:36] <crimsun> chad: is the usb headset selected as the default audio output device?
[12:36] <sveur> kitche: could you try to explain the basics?
[12:36] <kikokos_> ljl whatever? or sth special
[12:37] <LjL> kikokos_: the full name of the user. the system doesn't care.
[12:37] <chad> in the alsa mixer yes
[12:37] <crimsun> chad: is it specified in ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf, too?
[12:37] <v3l0ct> sveur, http://www.mkssoftware.com/docs/man1/umask.1.asp
[12:37] <hangfire> deema- and executables often arent executable outside of the homefolder
[12:37] <deema> sethk, can you explain that in different words? I didn't quite understand
[12:37] <sethk> chad, make sure pcm is not all the way down, both input and output
[12:38] <_spanner_> deema: it is possible... for example you can get a preview of a jpeg or a pdf file in the icon. There's no reason that the image embedded in a .exe file couldn't be used. I imagine the reason is that most Linux guys don't have a significant amount of Win32 PE files lying around.
[12:38] <kitche> sveur: it's allows non-root users to write to a disk
[12:38] <sethk> deema, the icon, most of the time, will be chosen according to the file's type.  The  file _name_ doesn't say anything about the type.
[12:38] <chad> hmm.. where do i find those asound files? im a little newbie still:p
[12:38] <kikokos_> ljl ok so i reboot now and tell u after how it was:)
[12:38] <crimsun> chad: ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf
[12:38] <sethk> deema, in windows, typically, a file named .exe is executable, and .bat is a script.  UNIX doesn't have those restrictions
[12:38] <deema> okay what _spanner said
[12:38] <sethk> deeem, and files don't even need to have an extension, although they can.
[12:39] <deema> that's what I mean
[12:39] <deema> the icon imbedded in an exe
[12:39] <jvai> saueldr
[12:39] <deema> why doesn't it show THAT icon
[12:39] <jvai> samueldr
[12:39] <sethk> deema, a windows exe?  completely different format
[12:39] <chad> is that in / (root) or where?
[12:39] <LjL> _spanner_: http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=135000&admit=-682735245+1162424253351+28353475 - though i'm not sure you'll like the sound of it
[12:39] <DanSchnell> I am back, and this time I have pictures of my problem.  Soundray, are you here?
[12:39] <sethk> deema, why would it show?  it's for a different o/s.
[12:39] <jvai> he bounced?
[12:39] <jvai> ok
[12:40] <_spanner_> deema: No-one wrote the code to do it. It's probably not too hard, but I'd guess not enough demand for it
[12:40] <soundray> DanSchnell: for a short while, yes
[12:40] <deema> okay. so what you're saying is that embedded icon is in .exe don't show in Linux. is there a way to display them?
[12:40] <dredhammer> so if i downgrade from edgy to dapper do i lose my home directory if its a seperate partition?
[12:40] <deema> okay, that makes sense then. Iwas wondering if there was a way to do it
[12:40] <DanSchnell> Soundray: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/tathar902/other%20stuff/screenshots/100_0155.jpg
[12:40] <v3l0ct> dreadhammer, no
[12:40] <deema> since I DO use WINE
[12:40] <deema> and it's nice to see the embedded icons
[12:40] <DanSchnell> Soundray: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/tathar902/other%20stuff/screenshots/100_0151.jpg
[12:41] <dredhammer> so i just pop the dvd in and tell it to install dapper?
[12:41] <v3l0ct> dredhammer, just install but don't format your home partition
[12:41] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[12:41] <soundray> DanSchnell: have you tried any of the vga= options?
[12:41] <v3l0ct> np
[12:41] <DanSchnell> Soundray, yes
[12:42] <sethk> deema, there are programs around to extract the icon, wouldn't be too hard to set up.  the correct question, though, is, since X windows had been around for well over 15 years before windows existed, why didn't microsoft put the icon in the correct place?
[12:42] <DanSchnell> Soundray, do you think its possible that the liveCD doesn't like my nVidia 6800 GS running in SLI
[12:42] <baxter_kylie> Hi. could anyone explain to me how ubuntu manages to automount drives? (is it autofs, ivman, etc) ? I'm trying to replicate the same in xubuntu.
[12:42] <LjL> _spanner_: perhaps you want to try "debugfs", and then issue the command "cat <inode>", which will cat the stuff to stdout -- at least if it's a text file
[12:42] <craz4eva> anyone having problems with terminal in edgy?
[12:42] <kikokos> ljl thanks so much:)
[12:43] <brasileiro> there's something special thing about kernel recompiling on Ubuntu?
[12:43] <kikokos> ljl now i`m in gnome
[12:43] <LjL> kikokos: with your own "jo" user?
[12:43] <soundray> DanSchnell: it's possible, but I haven't heard of such problems. Have you tried vga=0x31A ?
[12:43] <matjan> hi, is there a linux app that can read chm-files (you know, those windoze help files)?
[12:43] <_spanner_> LjL: I saw debugfs... it relies on the FS being unmounted though... I'd have to kill the process that has the file open in order to umount it. Could work, but it seems unnecessarily risky
[12:43] <kikokos> ljl no with jer
[12:43] <DanSchnell> soundray, no I haven't
[12:43] <zambatrue> hey guys does anyone know of california based repositories?
[12:43] <kikokos> ljl jo has bad conf
[12:43] <ianmacgregor> !chm
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <chad> crimsun: heh..ive tried to search for .asoundrc asound   cant find em
[12:44] <_spanner_> LjL: This is just something that happened to me today with an unimportant file, and I got to wondering. Nothing is at stake here :)
[12:44] <soundray> DanSchnell: try that one. It sets a VESA mode with 1280x1024 @ 64k colors.
[12:44] <_spanner_> LjL: Thanks anyway. Still reading that forum link...
[12:44] <baxter_kylie> !automount
[12:44] <v3l0ct> zambatrue, dunno.  i have no clue where the us archive is
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <zambatrue> v3l0ct, whereever it is, i get 20ks down from it.. that sucks :(
[12:44] <JensB> Hi everybody
[12:44] <iter> matjan: gnochm
[12:44] <DanSchnell> soundray, It sets it at vesa? Or do i have to change my driver to vesa through the console?
[12:45] <PapaLion> !restrictedformats
[12:45] <iter> !gnochm
[12:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:45] <ubotu> gnochm: CHM file viewer for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-1 (edgy), package size 136 kB, installed size 700 kB
[12:45] <JensB> I was using dapper, now edgy, and in both versions I have the little problem that my bootsplash screen jumps back to text mode during "Checking all file systems ...". Any ideas why this might be?
[12:45] <matjan> iter, thanks!
[12:45] <soundray> DanSchnell: no, you don't have to change anything except starting the kernel with that option.
[12:45] <v3l0ct> zambatrue, try without the us. at the beginning.  maybe it's faster
[12:46] <mepaYancho> anyone can suggest another ftpd instead of proftpd pls? since according to apt there is no such package
[12:46] <DanSchnell> ok
[12:46] <apokryphos> !ftpd
[12:46] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[12:46] <DanSchnell> soundray, thanks.  I'll try that, be back in a bit...
[12:46] <sethk> mepaYancho, vsftp.  secure ftp (sftp) is preferred
[12:46] <Homer_Linux> soundray still no joy
[12:46] <soundray> mepaYancho: fix your repositories.
[12:46] <sethk> mepaYancho, but sftp is a different protocol and uses a different client.  you should see proftp also
[12:46] <soundray> !repos | mepaYancho
[12:46] <ubotu> mepaYancho: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:46] <mepaYancho> and following this tutorial i can continue with sftp ? : http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p6
[12:47] <mepaYancho> soundray any idea what i can do pls? newbie here :|
[12:47] <kikokos> ljl r u still here?
[12:47] <LjL> kikokos: yes
[12:47] <soundray> mepaYancho: read the pages that ubotu pointed out to you
[12:48] <kikokos> ljl can i ask u one more small q?
[12:48] <LjL> kikokos, go on. if i can answer
[12:48] <kikokos> ljl sso:  No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[12:48] <mepaYancho> i have server distribution soundray so no gui :|
[12:48] <sethk> mepaYancho, mepaYancho no, sftp is different.  proftpd is certainly available in the repos.
[12:48] <kikokos> ljl and i don`t know why
[12:48] <sethk> mepaYancho, I think someone already told you how to update your repos.
[12:48] <Nosgoth> Guys, there's no oficial help page for 6.10?
[12:49] <LjL> kikokos: quite normal, your new "jer" user isn't a member of the "audio" group -- or of any groups your old "jo" user was a member of, for that matter
[12:49] <sethk> mepaYancho, you can install the gui.  the server distro isn't different, it's just a different set of packages to install initially.
[12:49] <LjL> kikokos: type "groups jo" and give me the output
[12:49] <sethk> mepaYancho, if you want the gui.  you don't need to install it if you don't want to use it on that box, of course
[12:49] <SamuelDr> I'm back
[12:50] <SamuelDr> jvai, what were you saying?
[12:50] <v3l0ct> Nosgoth, what do you mean by help?
[12:50] <kikokos> ljl ok so:  jo : jo adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[12:50] <Nosgoth> v3l0ct: i mean oficial help.ubuntu.com web page for 6.10
[12:50] <brasileiro> there's something special thing about kernel recompiling on Ubuntu?
[12:50] <jvai> lol.. samueldr i was doin a search 4 nm thru search for files, & it pulled up alot of places
[12:51] <jvai> i closed it, i thought u were gone
[12:51] <obo> any vim gurus in here?
[12:51] <soundray> !kernelcompile | brasileiro
[12:51] <ubotu> brasileiro: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:51] <LjL> kikokos: ok, type "sudo -i", and then type these commands: adduser jer adm ; adduser jer dialout ; adduser jer cdrom ; adduser jer floppy ; adduser jer audio ; adduser jer dip ; adduser jer video ; adduser jer plugdev ; adduser jer lpadmin ; adduser jer scanner ; adduser jer admin"
[12:51] <jvai> samueldr.. i'm searching now thru my box for nm, so far "dpkg.status.0 /var/backups 1.1MB , & it's still searchin
[12:51] <v3l0ct> Nosgoth, nope.  there may be an unofficial guide eventually but 6.06 is the LTS so that's the help page that'll show
[12:51] <brasileiro> soundray, thanks =)
[12:51] <jvai> that was the 1st 1
[12:51] <mepaYancho> sorry for sounding dumb but i did : apt-get update and then again install proftpd and to no avail :|
[12:51] <spakoo> does anybody of you know how to setup video server who can capture DV via firewire?
[12:51] <Twiggy> Hey I'm on a fresh edgy install and for whatever reason my right alt/ctrl keys don't work, but the left ones do.  This worked before on an dapper -> edgy upgraded install.  Any ideas what could be up?
[12:51] <LjL> kikokos: ah no wait, you can't use sudo from jer. well, log in to "jo" from a console, then do that
[12:52] <NET||abuse> hi guys, having a problem playing music on xmms
[12:52] <Nosgoth> v3l0ct: yeap, seems like
[12:52] <NET||abuse> using alsa,, message says ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[12:52] <Rappermas> ok, i just got AIGLX and beryl to work (thanks to chippy's help), and i fixed my resolution, but how do i increase my refresh rate?
[12:52] <SamuelDr> jvai, mkay
[12:52] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Rappermas about xgl
[12:52] <kikokos> ljl how to log as jo in terminal?:)
[12:52] <obo> any vim gurus in here?
[12:52] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Rappermas about fixres
[12:52] <soundray> mepaYancho: is there any particular reason why you resist the suggestion to read up on ubuntu repositories?
[12:52] <jvai> i'm having issues w/ goin to & from wired - wifi, w/ nm... it's slow to do things
[12:53] <LjL> kikokos: type Ctrl+Alt+F2 - when you're finished, type Ctrl+Alt+F7 to come back here
[12:53] <kikokos> ljl i don`t want to do anything wrong now
[12:53] <mepaYancho> soundray im reading .. but im finding them hard to understand sorry :|
[12:53] <crimsun> NET||abuse: pastebin (see topic) ``cat ~/.asoundrc* && asoundconf list''
[12:53] <mcphail> obo: just ask your question. If anyone knows, they will reply :)
[12:53] <obo> I'm using the .vimrc file located at http://www.vi-improved.org/wiki/index.php/VimGpg to transparently edit GPG-encrypted files inside vim. This has workd on Fedora before, but won't work in Ubuntu. Kind of dissapointing.
[12:53] <Rappermas> LjL: thanks for the howto
[12:53] <LjL> kikokos: actually, scrap that. just type "su - jo", it'll be easier
[12:53] <soundray> mepaYancho: ask about what you don't understand then. That way, you won't sound dumb.
[12:54] <mepaYancho> first of all - what is dapper? i mean is edge dapper ?
[12:54] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell mepaYancho about dapper
[12:54] <XtremeBain> dapper is 6.06, edgy is 6.10
[12:54] <apokryphos> mepaYancho: have you checked the FAQ first?
[12:54] <obo> E121: Undefined variable: ch_save
[12:54] <obo> E15: Invalid expression: ch_save|unlet ch_save
[12:55] <kalikiana> soundray: was it you who gave me tips about my usb modem?
[12:55] <soundray> kalikiana: yes
[12:55] <relbs> has anyone been able to succesfully compile openafs-modules-source in edgy?
[12:55] <ubuntu_newb> is there any packages for running apache web server and all that on Ubuntu?
[12:55] <xerophyte> does any good GUI programming evn for gnome ??
[12:55] <mepaYancho> 10x ... yes apokryphos im following a tutorial on edge :|
[12:55] <ubuntu_newb> or does that have to be installed manually?
[12:56] <soundray> !apache | ubuntu_newb
[12:56] <ubotu> ubuntu_newb: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[12:56] <apokryphos> mepaYancho: not the same though; the FAQ answers a lot of basic questions. It's quite good :)
[12:56] <apokryphos> !faq | mepaYancho
[12:56] <ubotu> mepaYancho: faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[12:56] <kalikiana> soundray: i rebooted several times with no change, i plugged out and in , removed the power... lsusb won't react when the modem is plugged in
[12:56] <ubuntu_newb> ok thank you
[12:56] <soundray> kalikiana: is it possibly kaputt?
[12:56] <azureal> my sound seems beyond repair....how would i go about reinstalling 2.6.17-10 kernel?
[12:57] <azureal> ciao.
[12:57] <kalikiana> soundray: i don't think so because i used it before on a windows laptop
[12:57] <soundray> kalikiana: are you plugging it into a hub or direct into the mainboard?
[12:58] <brasileiro> I'm having problems with my cd recorder, I can't even mount them
[12:58] <kalikiana> soundray: i used one of the backsided usb ports
[12:58] <brasileiro> cdrecorder -scanbus returns nothing
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> What's the text command for lock version in synaptic?
[12:58] <ulrik> hey all wondering now in edgy. Previously I had some tool that managed my disks and their mountpoints (somewhere among admin tools). What's it called and how do I install it again?
[12:59] <kalikiana> soundray: and the ports should usually work fine as well
[12:59] <rag> hello*
[12:59] <toby> Hi
[12:59] <MetaMorfoziS> !kernel
[12:59] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[12:59] <rag> how to activate dri on ati card
[12:59] <toby> XGL
[12:59] <rag> RV350
[12:59] <brasileiro> I'm having problems with my cd recorder, I can't even mount them... cdrecorder -scanbus returns nothing...
[01:00] <toby> does anyone know how to install it in Edgy
[01:00] <soundray> kalikiana: I don't know what to suggest - except buying a decent modem that connects through Ethernet instead of USB.
[01:00] <rag> hello friends ! how to activate dri on ati card, ati rv350
[01:00] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell toby about xgl
[01:00] <toby> :)
[01:00] <kalikiana> soundray: is there any command to see why lsusb is frozen? i can't even cancel it
[01:01] <ulrik> is it pysdm??
[01:01] <azureal> MetaMorfoziS, would it be a bad idea to...idk...reinstall the current kernel while working it?
[01:01] <kikokos> ljl after adding all things jer restart gnome? m i right?
[01:01] <toby> its late so i come back tomorrow
[01:01] <toby> bye
[01:01] <funshineBear> guys, help me. i upgraded my xubuntu via command line but i can't get on to my computer anmyore. please help
[01:01] <cpk1> how do you get the change log of apps with apt?
[01:01] <LjL> kikokos: yes, log out and back in
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> azureal > i want to build a new one
[01:01] <Legendre> Well, fwiw, Edgy works farking sweet on my IBM Thinkpad 31
[01:01] <LjL> !apt-changelog | cpk1
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-changelog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <soundray> kalikiana: like I say, it indicates a hardware problem. You could run 'strace lsusb' to see where exactly it hangs.
[01:02] <LjL> whops
[01:02] <LjL> !apt-listchanges | cpk1
[01:02] <azureal> ?
[01:02] <ubotu> apt-listchanges: Display change history from .deb archives. In component main, is optional. Version 2.59-0.3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 328 kB
[01:02] <cpk1> LjL: thanks =)
[01:02] <Legendre> I have a Q about wifi.. Edgy says my wireless connection is not configured, but as it happens, it's working perfectly. What's up with that?
[01:03] <sethk> Legendre, you mean you are using it from within linux?
[01:03] <sethk> Legendre, it doesn't mean anything about the hardware, it means the o/s has (hasn't in this case) found it and set it up
[01:03] <Legendre> sethk - yeah, it's working swell.. but Edgy says it's not configured or enabled
[01:03] <kikokos> ljl ok i`ve got sounds in gnome
[01:03] <kikokos> ljl thank`s again
[01:03] <kitche> Legendre: yeah I notice a bug with the network-manager with that
[01:03] <sethk> Legendre, that would be a first.  ifconfig   (no arguments)  shows no interfaces, or only lo?
[01:03] <Legendre> sethk - but it's working fine. that's the odd part..
[01:04] <LjL> kikokos: you're welcome. perhaps try to tinker less with things you shouldn't be tinkering with, next time ;-P
[01:04] <kikokos> ljl should i add sth more jer?
[01:04] <jprieur> Hi, I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, and after fixed dsl modem and X issues, there's still one : between GRUB and GDM, my screen displays (hardware) me a "Video mode not supported" message. I guess it comes from GRUB not using a good resolution but I don't know more, how can I fix that?
[01:04] <sethk> Legendre, try ifconfig, maybe the gui is messed up
[01:04] <LjL> kikokos, no, i don't think
[01:04] <Legendre> sethk - no, ifconfig shows a whole host of interfaces.
[01:04] <kalikiana> soundray: so at least now i get an output, but i think 'permission denied' and 'operation not permitted' won'T help too much anyway
[01:04] <Legendre> just the gui is totally unaware of it
[01:04] <kikokos> ljl ok thank u so much
[01:04] <sethk> Legendre, everything show by ifconfig (without the -a flag) is set up, so it has to be the gui.
[01:05] <soundray> kalikiana: that's unusual. Should go away if you use sudo, though
[01:05] <Legendre> sethk - if it were windows, the situation would be reversed.. which is pretty funny.
[01:06] <jprieur> Nobody to help me? :)
[01:06] <soundray> jprieur: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find a line beginning with #kopt, add 'vga=771', save the file, run 'sudo update-grub' and try again
[01:06] <azureal> MetaMorfoziS, i dont understand what you're suggesting...some of your links had kind of 'infinite loops'.... would aptitude reinstall linux-server work for me in console..?
[01:07] <jprieur> soundray: thx
[01:07] <LjL> soundray: will the vga option work with usplash?
[01:07] <kalikiana> soundray: wow, you're great - although now it freezes with a usbdev_connectinfo
[01:07] <soundray> LjL: I think so
[01:07] <ltr^^^> join #amarok
[01:07] <soundray> kalikiana: thanks. Dodgy hardware...
[01:08] <SamuelDr> argh
[01:08] <azureal> why is there so much love for ...amarok...
[01:08] <crimsun> azureal: because it's a nice app?
[01:08] <kalikiana> soundray: i guess i did already annoy you enough with this problem of mine; i do appreciate your effort and now i damn whoever made such a thing
[01:08] <jprieur> thank for the help, then I hope I'll don't have to get back there :)
[01:08] <azureal> nope =P
[01:08] <SamuelDr> I found out that nm-applet tries to read some files in /etc/NetworkManager ... but there is no configuration file...
[01:09] <DanSchnell> I am having some display problems on the liveCD, Can anyone help?  Screenshots can be found here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=290877
[01:09] <soundray> kalikiana: not to worry, glad I could be of some use.
[01:09] <eegore> Is there a channel for linux gaminmg?
[01:10] <LjL> DanSchnell: tried booting with the safe graphics mode option?
[01:10] <soundray> kalikiana: USB DSL modems tend to be problematic with Linux in general -- it's the manufacturers' fault.
[01:10] <LjL> !games | eegore, don't know, but
[01:10] <ubotu> eegore, don't know, but: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:10] <earlGrey> Installed Ubuntu edgy - everything works great except for Flash in Opera; Flash works amazingly well in Firefox (I installed from automatix2). Any ideas?
[01:10] <azureal> crimsun, quick question--i somehow messed up sound ability in my server edition kernel... if i booted into a different kernel should i run 'aptitude reinstall' or 'aptitude remove' then 'aptitude install linux-server' ?
[01:11] <soundray> kalikiana: Ethernet works much better.
[01:11] <crimsun> azureal: what are you referring to with "sound ability?"
[01:11] <Chippy> hey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?
[01:11] <DanSchnell> LjL, yup.  I've tried almost everything.  like changing driver to vesa instead of nv and vga=0x31A
[01:11] <SonicvanaJr> galador, sucks
[01:11] <LjL> !automatix | earlGrey
[01:11] <ubotu> earlGrey: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[01:11] <azureal> crimsun, sound does not work anymore....but dont worry about that... i just want to reinstall current kernel with brand new config
[01:12] <earlGrey> thanks, ubotu.
[01:13] <kalikiana> soundray: yeah, i had never any problems with ethernet in linux. so maybe i must invest some money now.
[01:13] <crimsun> azureal: apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.17-10-server
[01:13] <sethk> DanSchnell, you are hitting it with a vertical freq it can't handle.
[01:13] <calvarez> question: about how many packages are in the repositories?
[01:13] <xSUSHi> Anyone know how I can remap my keys?  I need < to be F8 and > to be Spacebar.
[01:13] <Chippy> hey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?
[01:13] <sethk> DanSchnell, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:13] <LjL> !packages | calvarez
[01:13] <ubotu> calvarez: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:13] <lando> i need to install realplayer and the installation dialog asks me where i would like to install it to. what would be a good location
[01:13] <sethk> DanSchnell, choose the "middle" difficult level when you get to the monitor section
[01:13] <LjL> though i guess i'll update that, edgy has more ;)
[01:13] <PapaLion> is there an automatix for edgy yet?
[01:13] <azureal> crimsun, i prefer aptitude...why not just "aptitude reinstall linux-image...."
[01:13] <sethk> DanSchnell, then make sure the highest resolution is one the monitor can display
[01:13] <DanSchnell> sethk, Ok.
[01:13] <eegore> ubotu: the issue is network lag
[01:13] <LjL> !automatix | PapaLion
[01:13] <ubotu> PapaLion: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[01:13] <crimsun> azureal: then use aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.17-10-server
[01:14] <azureal> crimsun, ty
[01:14] <xSUSHi> Anyone know how I can remap my keys?  I need < to be F8 and > to be Spacebar..
[01:14] <luisbg> how do I install the ati drivers in ubuntu?
[01:14] <calvarez> LjL, I'm not running Ubuntu right now, but I'm trying to help a friend put together a FOSS proselyting paper and I want to know an approximate number of packages available
[01:14] <sethk> eegore,   l      a             g                       ?
[01:14] <eegore> yep
[01:14] <azureal> bbl to try it out
[01:14] <calvarez> can someone tell me how many packages are in the repos?
[01:14] <soundray> !repeat | xSUSHi
[01:14] <ubotu> xSUSHi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:14] <LjL> calvarez: 20208 on edgy, counting all official repositories
[01:14] <kalikiana> is anyone here who can help me with a dsl usb modem?
[01:14] <calvarez> ok, thx
[01:14] <eegore> playing UT 99 on dapper and I get horendous lag
[01:15] <sethk> xSUSHi, xmodmap can do that for you
[01:15] <xSUSHi> thanks a lot
[01:15] <eegore> sethk: ^
[01:15] <DanSchnell> Sethk, also I have tried gdm restart and when i try to restart, It says stopping GNOME ....[OK]  Starting GNOME ... [FAIL]
[01:15] <mikeymike-linux> ok so....  some program in X usually asks me 'ignore/import' when i plug my digital camera in.. and i select ignore and voila my camera mounts and shows up on my desktop..... well its not doing that.... i hit ignore and nothing occurs and the camera contineus to attempt to connect to the computer..... if i hit IMPORT they open into whatever application it is that does that and i can see all my photos...... what gives? something t
[01:15] <mikeymike-linux> o do with mount? usb? earlier today i plugged a thumbdrive into my computer and it mounted and went to the desktop.... it mounted in /media anyone know whats up?
[01:15] <sethk> DanSchnell, for that, put your X log on the paste site (usually /var/log/Xorg.log.0)
[01:16] <Rappermas> ok, this all good, but it doesn't tell me how to set a higher refresh rate on my monitor
[01:16] <jprieur> sorry but I didn't find anything biginning by #kopt in my menu.lst
[01:16] <sethk> mikeymike-linux, the desktop is just a display.  it was always mounted in /media
[01:16] <mikeymike-linux> i know the desktop is just a display im not dumb
[01:16] <soundray> kalikiana: ask a concrete question, like "When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?"
[01:16] <sethk> mikeymike-linux, well, sorry, I was just trying to help.  you seemed to be saying that earlier is was automounted somewhere other than /media, which is not true.
[01:17] <mikeymike-linux> ah no its always /media im sure
[01:17] <karl> hi, I just dist-upgraded from dapper to edgy, it all looked good, nice new fonts, everything still worked, then I rebooted.  Now my x server is broken, as well as my wireless.  apt-get dist-upgrade again just says that a bunc of packages have been "held back" included xserver-xorg-core. any ideas?
[01:17] <clearzen> Does anyone know how I could control the screen brightness on my laptop when it is unplugged?
[01:17] <v3l0ct> karl, manually install xserver-xorg
[01:17] <kalikiana> soundray: you're right, i'll do that :)
[01:17] <LjL> karl: do you have any third-party repositories enabled? do you have the ubuntu-desktop package installed?
[01:18] <mikeymike-linux> sethk, sorry :]
[01:18] <kalikiana> "When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?
[01:18] <karl> v3l0ct: pardon?
[01:18] <mikeymike-linux> i guess im going to have to restart  lol.....
[01:18] <mikeymike-linux> or use google.
[01:18] <Chippy> hey, my keyboard has some special keys, one of which has a symbol associated with it, but 3 others do not; is there a .conf or the like I could edit to associate a symbol with these special keys?
[01:18] <karl> LjL: nope, just a dapper config with s/dapper/edgy/g
[01:19] <LjL> karl: i'd make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed. "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop", otherwise install it
[01:19] <clearzen> Does acpi control my screen brightness on my laptop?
[01:19] <jordan> Does anyone know the contact info for an admin @ ubuntu.com? I want to report a broken / missing link. Or should I use launchpad?
[01:19] <tapas> hmm, i have problems using open gl via dri on my thinkpad t21
[01:19] <kitche> jordan: think launchpad has a section for webiste
[01:19] <tapas> like freezing X :(
[01:20] <jordan> kitche: Thanks, I should have checked first :)
[01:20] <bimberi> jordan: i think you report bugs on the 'ubuntu-website' product
[01:20] <karl> v3l0ct: oh, gotcha, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core works by itself.
[01:20] <v3l0ct> karl, :)
[01:21] <v3l0ct> karl, also follow LJL's suggestion
[01:21] <mikeymike-linux> this would be an automount issue im having?
[01:21] <mikeymike-linux> does anyone know?
[01:21] <ubuntu_> dae raa
[01:22] <ubuntu_> blz?
[01:22] <jprieur> Ok, I still get a 'Not supported video mode' message on screen between GRUB and GDM even when adding vga=771 and sudo update-grub, any other clue?
[01:23] <sethk> jprieur, use vga=ask.  you'll get a menu of supported resolutions at boot time
[01:23] <sethk> jprieur, or just use the default 80x25 mode
[01:23] <ubuntu_newb> if I want to install LAMP on Ubuntu, is there a package to install the whole thing?
[01:24] <apokryphos> !lamp
[01:24] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:24] <LjL> sethk, jprieur, soundray: perhaps /etc/usplash.conf as well? or will that just decide the size of the picture, and not the actual resolution used?
[01:24] <jprieur> ok sethk : does it really matters it to be written after # kopt=... in the config file?
[01:24] <kitche> jprieur: is the screen blue by chance?
[01:24] <sethk> jprieur, shoudn't, no, the # is just a comment line
[01:24] <AlReece45> I'm trying to run Half Life, I have it installed, and when I run it in OpenGL mode, either I get no sound and good fps, or laggy sound and low fps. I've narrowed down the laggy sound and low fps to esd.
[01:24] <sethk> s/shoudn't/shouldn't/
[01:24] <jprieur> sethk: ok, that was I was thinking
[01:24] <soundray> jprieur: if you put it anywhere else, it'll be overridden when you next update the kernel
[01:25] <sethk> jprieur, soundray has a good point
[01:25] <jprieur> kitche: no, I get a 'Not supported video mode' displayed by my screen (hardware)
[01:25] <soundray> sethk, jprieur, the #kopt line has a special role in menu.lst and is not just a comment.
[01:25] <kitche> jprieur: ah one of those errors that the monitor shows
[01:25] <jprieur> kitche: yes
[01:26] <jprieur> soundray: ok, nice to know
[01:26] <sethk> soundray, I hadn't seen that in the grub docs.  is that new?
[01:26] <jprieur> soundray: so I pu it just after # kopt... ?
[01:26] <soundray> jprieur, sethk: when you run update-grub, it appends everything in the #kopt line to every kernel line within the automagic list.
[01:26] <deema> how do I run an .run file from the terminal?
[01:27] <kitche> deema: ./<file>.run but make sure it's chmod +x
[01:27] <deema> how do I do that?
[01:27] <deema> oh
[01:27] <sethk> soundray, oh, that's why I didn't see it.  I don't use grub-install, I install grub with the utility.
[01:27] <jprieur> soundray: so where do I add the 'vga=771'?
[01:27] <obo> any vim Gurus in here?
[01:27] <deema> do I just type in the file?
[01:27] <deema> it said command not found
[01:28] <mikeymike-linux> ok so lsusb is showing the camera.......
[01:28] <mikeymike-linux> Bus 002 Device 012: ID 03f0:8102 Hewlett-Packard
[01:28] <LjL> jordan: you'd want to try https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bugs - make sure it's not already reported
[01:28] <mikeymike-linux> how do i mount it......
[01:28] <kitche> deema: replace <file> with the filename of the file your trying to run don't forget the sh or the ./ infront
[01:28] <soundray> jprieur: to the end of the line that begins with #kopt (unless it already contains something like vga=5, in which case you change that)
[01:28] <bun-bun> !less
[01:28] <ubotu> less: Pager program similar to more. In component main, is important. Version 394-2 (edgy), package size 105 kB, installed size 264 kB
[01:28] <sethk> soundray, no mention of kopt in the grub doc, or the grub install doc.  probably out of date docs, I guess.
[01:28] <deema> k
[01:28] <bun-bun> !more
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about more - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <sethk> soundray, no, he isn't reinstalling
[01:28] <soundray> sethk: man update-grub
[01:28] <sethk> soundray, that's a different program than grub-install
[01:28] <bun-bun> what are the benefits of using less vs more?
[01:28] <jprieur> ok, I try that, thanks guys
[01:29] <xSUSHi>    UBUNTU KICKS ASS
[01:29] <sethk> jprieur, you don't need to reinstall.  just edit the file, and replace the current vga= with vga=ask
[01:29] <soundray> sethk: did I talk about grub-install? If I did, I meant update-grub
[01:29] <sethk> soundray, k
[01:29] <mepaYancho> Running game servers is it advised that i create a user for them .. lets say a user games ?
[01:29] <kitche> bun-bun: they do the same thing really
[01:29] <LjL> jordan: possibly already reported as https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-website/+bug/68492
[01:29] <bun-bun> kitche# i know they do, just wondering what benefits one offers over the other
[01:29] <sethk> bun-bun, less has more features than more,
[01:29] <kitche>  mepaYancho: well it's a good practice really
[01:30] <sethk> bun-bun, but they are similar, more or less  :)
[01:30] <mikeymike-linux> ok so lsusb is showing the camera....... Bus 002 Device 012: ID 03f0:8102 Hewlett-Packard... how do i mount it......
[01:30] <bun-bun> sethk# is one more secure than the other?
[01:30] <sethk> or if you prefer, less has fewer features than more
[01:30] <sethk> bun-bun, secure?  neither has any particular security implications.
[01:30] <kitche> bun-bun: they interact with the server they aren't like a daemon
[01:30] <jordan> LjL: Yup, that's it :)
[01:31] <LjL> jordan: hold on a second... have you clicked on "Other installation options" in the page? =)
[01:31] <jordan> LjL: No, let me try.
[01:31] <mepaYancho> is there some good tutorial on how to add users pls? :)
[01:31] <kitche> bun-bun: I mean user not server
[01:31] <deema> kitche
[01:31] <xSUSHi> ubuntu definately kicks ass  and so do all of you who help make the community!
[01:31] <bun-bun> i recall seeing something somewhere implying that less was more secure than more
[01:31] <LjL> jordan: i mean - choose a continent, choose a nation, choose a mirror, and "Other installation options"
[01:31] <bun-bun> but i don't remember the details
[01:31] <kitche> mepaYancho: sudo adduser it will run interactively
[01:31] <deema> kitche, it says ./ is a directory
[01:31] <qc> has ubuntu made anything work with 64-bit processors, and flash/window media websites???? or can you still not stream with it?
[01:31] <mepaYancho> thanks kitche
[01:31] <LjL> jordan: though that's possibly not the best way to advertize the torrent
[01:31] <sethk> bun-bun, no.  if you have an ssh connections, then it doesn't matter. if you don't have an ssh connection, than less is the least of your problems  :)
[01:32] <kitche> deema: are do you have ./ right next to your filename that your running?
[01:32] <deema> got it
[01:32] <deema> thank you
[01:32] <bun-bun> sethk# so you're implying that over an unencrypted connection there is an impact?
[01:32] <jordan> LjL: I actually liked the previous site better ( the one now considered other install options )
[01:32] <sethk> bun-bun, no, just that over an unencrypted connection security is hopeless.
[01:33] <LjL> jordan: *shrug* the bug is reported, anyway
[01:33] <sethk> bun-bun, there's nothing you can do with less running (or more) that you can't also do when it isn't running.
[01:33] <Kannix> Hi all
[01:33] <bun-bun> sethk# i was thinking along the lines of how it processes the file that something may (or may not) happen
[01:33] <xSUSHi> hi Kannix
[01:34] <mepaYancho> and another problem pls :) i have server files on cdrom .. how can i use them as a normal hdd? the file is a .run
[01:34] <kitche> bun-bun: they are mostly used to just scroll up and down
[01:34] <jvai> if i set firefox to use sock5, will it use opennssh to connet?
[01:34] <Kannix> well, I have done it. Flattened the old SuSE and installed ubuntu 6.10.
[01:34] <bun-bun> kitche# i'm familiar of what they do, just not how they do it
[01:34] <qc> has ubuntu made any progress with 64-bit users?? as far as streaming flash/windows media stream websites?????
[01:34] <bun-bun> personally i've always used more
[01:35] <Kannix> Now I have the problem I feared: How do I import the backuped maildir into evolution.
[01:35] <grndslm> less is bess
[01:35] <bun-bun> but i've heard arguments to use less
[01:35] <apokryphos> qc: no
[01:35] <bun-bun> and it makes me wonder why
[01:35] <apokryphos> qc: still not biarch
[01:35] <qc> apokryphos: bleh!
[01:35] <Al> Hi there everyone. I recently had a problem with my wireless card and tried a few of the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx111?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDevice%2FAcx111 before realising i didn't have the internet so i couldn't download the stuff i needed to compile my own new version of the acx driver... or something. unfortunately i kinda deleted my /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wire
[01:35] <kitche> bun-bun: you can always read the documentation for both since it will explain how both work
[01:35] <qc> why not??  rofl
[01:35] <sethk> bun-bun, I can't see it as an issue, really.
[01:35] <Al> and sorry for the long post
[01:35] <Kannix> I have the old Maildir (used to be KMail) on DVD. Any ideas how I can import that into Evolution?
[01:35] <soundray> qc: that's not really an ubuntu issue. Ask Adobe to support amd64 and codec vendors to publish their sources.
[01:35] <bun-bun> sethk# that's what i thought too
[01:36] <grndslm> more or less, they're all the same
[01:36] <Kannix> I checked the settings and the only way seems to be to make a special account and set the "server" to "Maildir", give a path, and that's that.
[01:36] <bun-bun> kitche# thanks for the tip, just asked here in case someone knew the answer off the top of their head
[01:36] <ayush> hi wat to do here
[01:37] <jvai> if i set firefox to use sock5, will it use opennssh to connect?
[01:37] <Kannix> But I want the mail to be accessed from the same account I am using to receive more mail. And I don't want to run fetchmail and put it all in the backup Maildir, just so Evolution can access it.
[01:37] <Kannix> *sigh*
[01:38] <kitche> bun-bun: well they process the file the same way just that less allows moving backwards in a documents and forward where more will only allow forward though a document
[01:39] <mepaYancho> and another problem pls :) i have server files on cdrom .. how can i use them as a normal hdd? the file is a .run - I mounted but i have a dvdrom and a cdwriter - only one got mounted - and i dont know how to unmount either .. any help pls ?
[01:39] <al> can anyone provide me with (the file or a link to the file) /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/acx/acx.ko for dapper? i kinda deleted mine by accident and i have no idea of how to get it back (i assume i can re-extract from filesystem.squashfs on the cd but i dunno how)
[01:40] <al> also can anyone tell me if i can install edgy over the top of dapper? i wanna keep all my settings and stuff from dapper (i've customised it somewhat and it'd be nice to keep that) but i wanna upgrade to edgy because a few pages in the help wiki say that the acx problems are sorted
[01:40] <n1gke> Greetings once again folks.
[01:41] <kalikiana> al: you can upgrade if you want, but there *may* be problems with foreign packages
[01:41] <al> any ideas?
[01:41] <al> oh
[01:41] <abovett> al - do't know how well it works from the CD but I've updated several dapper systems to edgy online without too much trouble.
[01:41] <n1gke> I am editing a Ubuntu help page and need  an opinion on the chages/suggestions before I sumbit, is there someone who can assist with this please ?
[01:41] <soundray> al: you can upgrade to edgy. That will take care of the acx.ko problem, too
[01:41] <soundray> !upgrade | al
[01:41] <ubotu> al: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[01:42] <al> do you mean upgrade as in through gksu "update-manager -c" ?
[01:42] <ubuntu_newb> I don't have the Ubuntu server disk, where can I get the files to install LAMP on Ubuntu?
[01:42] <al> because unfortunately i have no internet access until the acx thing is sorted :S
[01:42] <akijikan> hello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...why?
[01:42] <kalikiana> al: so you will want to use the alternate install disc for that
[01:43] <boricua> someone said gaim can do irc, i dont see that
[01:43] <al> a-ha, thanks!
[01:43] <Guest18> in ubuntu edgy eft server, i am editing /etc/network/interfaces i have the changes how i want, how do i save and exit the editor
[01:43] <al> i'll check it out
[01:43] <soundray> al: in that case, fix the acx problem first:
[01:43] <al> lol, if only it was that easy!
[01:43] <killown> I get erros when I try to install ubuntu 6.10 erro in grub  it crash install
[01:43] <void^> thevenin: and which editor are you using?
[01:44] <abovett> thevenin: how are you editing it?
[01:44] <thevenin> well the command i did was vi /etc/network/interfaces
[01:44] <n1gke> boricua, Yes. gaim also does IRC.
[01:44] <bun-bun> kitche# i don't know about the really really old versions of more, but all the versions i've used allow to move backwards in a file
[01:44] <boricua> n1gke: how i dont see the option
[01:44] <abovett> thevenin: Did you use sudo first?
[01:44] <soundray> al: assuming the CD is mounted, run 'find /media/cdrom -name linux-image-2.6.15*deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i '
[01:44] <thevenin> no i am root
[01:45] <akijikan> hello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...any suggestions?
[01:45] <kalikiana> boricua: add a new user account and you should be able to select irc
[01:45] <n1gke> boricua, go to TOOLS then ACCOUNTS and add irc infos
[01:45] <dnite> does anyone know of a good bluetooth -> cellphone connection tutorial or software or anything for edgy?? Bluetooth seems pretty set up 'out of box' .. my bluetooth mouse can connect just fine.. and my phone can find, enter a pin, and 'connect' to ubuntu.. but i find 'no services' and sending files to my computer doesn't work..
[01:45] <abovett> thevenin: try :wq
[01:45] <thevenin> ok thanks
[01:45] <al> soundray: thanks for that tip. i'll check it out
[01:45] <boricua> i see
[01:45] <jordan> soundray: Are you sure that is good advice? there is an upgrade script on the CD ?
[01:46] <jprieur> soundray, sethk : so I tried with vga=ask, it gives me 9 choices and each one fails. I tried with vga=771, then the splash thing with the progress bar appears but there's a bit offset that make I see only 1/4 of it
[01:46] <soundray> jordan: this isn't about upgrading
[01:46] <al> soundray, jordan: i assume the dpkg thing s the thing that lets me extract a file from the package?
[01:46] <testing> testing
[01:46] <Spee_Der> Hello
[01:46] <kingace> hello, when I try to run a program in Wine, I can't access the dvd or hard drive
[01:46] <jordan> soundray: Ok, sorry
[01:46] <kingace> help!
[01:46] <abovett> thevenin: suggest if you plan using vi it's worth reading a vi howto first - else you can get in a real mess.
[01:46] <soundray> al, no, it'll just reinstall the kernel package over the existing one.
[01:46] <Spee_Der> boricua: Hello, this is also n1gke, but on GAIM mode.
[01:47] <Spee_Der> See, easy.
[01:47] <boricua> i see thanks i got it
[01:47] <killown> I get error when I try to install ubuntu 6.10 erro in grub  it crash install
[01:47] <Spee_Der> Your welcome. Ciao.
[01:47] <al> soundray: sorry to be dumb, so that'll hopefully get my stupidly deleted file back and not affect anything else (settings/prefs)?
[01:47] <dnite> thevenin, if u want to learn vim (similar to vi) .. run vimtutor .. i just started learning vim and that helped a lot..
[01:47] <akijikan> hello all, I'm looking for some help (of course).  When I did text-install my wireless card was automatically detected, but now that my system was installed, iwconfig doesn't show my wireless card...any suggestions?
[01:47] <soundray> al: exactly
[01:48] <kalikiana> When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?
[01:48] <thevenin> ok thank you dnite
[01:48] <david__> can anyone help me install a compiler so i can insta;l; tarballz?
[01:48] <al> soundray: thanks a load! this is just what i'm looking for. then i need to see if a different fix for acx is around and THEN i can use update manager to get edgy!
[01:48] <acidt> is there any mathematician in here :P
[01:48] <jordan> akijikan: Install the restricted drivers, I can't remember the package name.
[01:48] <jprieur> soundray, sethk : so I tried with vga=ask, it gives me 9 choices and
[01:48] <jprieur> 	  each one fails. I tried with vga=771, then the splash thing with the
[01:48] <jprieur> 	  progress bar appears but there's a bit offset that make I see only
[01:48] <jprieur> 	  1/4 of it. Do you see now a reason for that? It's not really esthetic :D
[01:48] <jrib> acidt: yes, but #math is a better place to ask that :)
[01:48] <jprieur> arf sorry guys :/
[01:48] <akijikan> jordan: sorry, how would I go about that
[01:49] <kalikiana> david__: you will want to look for gcc and cpp in synaptic :)
[01:49] <david__> I found GCC...it was also a tarball
[01:49] <jrib> ubotu: tell david__ about compiling
[01:49] <kalikiana> david__: you will want to look for gcc and cpp in synaptic :
[01:49] <bun-bun> david__# sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:49] <soundray> jprieur: sorry, I'm out of suggestions -- except: buy a better monitor :/
[01:49] <abovett> akijikan: what wireless card is it?
[01:49] <jordan> akijikan: Let me check the package name quickly and I will get back to you
[01:49] <deema> how can I change permissions for everything inside the directory, including other directories, everything
[01:50] <soundray> deema: chmod -R
[01:50] <akijikan> jordan: thanks
[01:50] <david__> thanks for that sudo...its installing now :)
[01:50] <jprieur> soundray: lol, it was ok before the upgrade :D Anyway, thanks for helping, I'll figure this out a day
[01:50] <akijikan> its an encore 802.11g (enlwi-sg) based on an Atheros chipset
[01:50] <al> oh, does anyone know why i can't get 1280x1024 on ubuntu? on windows it's fine so i know my gfx card and monitor support it. obviously ubuntu doesn't have the amazing drivers that windows has - it is just simply that, or do i need to do something? if i go to prefs -> change resolution i get 640, 80 and 1024 but no 1280. just wondering if it's a possibility...
[01:50] <bun-bun> !compile > david__
[01:50] <soundray> !fixres | al
[01:50] <ubotu> al: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:50] <al> !compile | david__
[01:50] <ubotu> david__: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:51] <kalikiana> al: try to select 'default'
[01:51] <al> kalikana: i don't think there IS a default... it was set to 1024 when i installed and it only has those three options i think
[01:51] <LjL> jprieur, could you give a try to setting something like 800x600 or 640x480 in /etc/usplash.conf?
[01:51] <david__> im trying to install mplayer froma tarball
[01:51] <jordan> akijikan: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[01:51] <jprieur> LjL: ok I try
[01:52] <jprieur> LjL: with vga=771 in the grub conf?
[01:52] <akijikan> jordan: is that on the disc?
[01:52] <al> kalikana: as for simply testing it now, i have good ol' acx prolems at the mo so i can't get net access in ubuntu, hence not being able to test it as i irc...
[01:52] <LjL> jprieur: with or without...
[01:52] <jordan> akijikan: I don't know.
[01:52] <akijikan> okay
[01:52] <kalikiana> al: sorry, then it must be a special problem, because on my installs it usually created a 'default' entry for the highest resolution
[01:52] <ixian_> anyone try installing easyubuntu on edgy?
[01:52] <void^> david__: why?
[01:52] <jrib> david__: mplayer is in multiverse, no need to compile
[01:52] <LjL> !easyubuntu | ixian_
[01:52] <ubotu> ixian_: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ (currently down!); for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:52] <al> kalikana: thanks for the help anyway. i can live at 1024...
[01:53] <CorpseFeeder> What is ubuntu-desktop and is there anyway to uninstall just evolution mail by itself without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop as well?
[01:53] <jrib> !ubuntu-desktop | CorpseFeeder
[01:53] <ubotu> CorpseFeeder: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[01:53] <xerophyte> does anybody know where can i find the devhelp books for php bash and stuff i could not find with apt-cache search
[01:53] <david__> huh? multiverse? maybe i dont have that mirror?
[01:53] <soundray> ubotu, no, easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:53] <jrib> ubotu: tell david__ about multiverse
[01:54] <penguinfan> hi, i skrewed up my x after updating to efty. how can I set it back to vesa or vga or what ever fallback exist to get atleast any x again?
[01:54] <jordan> akijikan: My guess for why it worked on the install CD and not the install ( it happened to me also ) is that the install CD uses proprietary drivers ( there are probably no open source drivers for your card ) to ensure compatability when installing, but the default ubuntu install does not.
[01:54] <ArrenLex_> I have two old Linux filesystem backups laying about. Is there some easy way to compare these two filesystems and create a new filesystem which combines them, sans duplication?
[01:54] <jrib> penguinfan: you can do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', but do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[01:54] <kalikiana> penguinfan: do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:55] <penguinfan> thx I will try this
[01:55] <pumpkinhead> do i use /etc/fstab to mount another hard drive
[01:55] <david__> how do i find the multiverse repository?
[01:55] <Kannix> did anybody ever manage to define a "maildir" for an account in Evolution? It requires a Path definition, however, the fileselect-box does not accept simple paths, you always have to chose a specific file. Now, I don't want to make one account per email I have in the maildir.
[01:55] <soundray> penguinfan: look at the backups of your xorg.conf: 'ls -lrt /etc/X11/xorg.conf*' and copy one of them back with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-XY /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:55] <Toma-> !multiverse
[01:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:55] <boricua> !repositories
[01:56] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. so ubuntu-desktop is a meta package which depends on god knows what and is safe to remove... what exactly does it do?
[01:56] <al> by the by, i'm a total 100% newbie at the whole linux thing (well i've dabbled) but i always wondered... why do we have to bloody compile everything anew? my guess would be different architectures or platforms or somethgin for some reason need things compiled differently.  is it the case that if my friend had ubuntu and compiled something it would work on my computer? or is it tied in to the computer too?
[01:56] <penguinfan> soundray: i already tried this but it seems as if the new aiglx or whatever it is doesn't like my fglrx
[01:56] <abovett> pumpkinhead: you can - not essential but make sit easier
[01:56] <ruda> CorpseFeeder: ubuntu-desktop install gnome , openoffice, evolution and more
[01:56] <penguinfan> soundray: i try to get x atleast in basic resolution back to search for the error
[01:56] <pumpkinhead> tks abovett
[01:56] <arakn0> fdsf
[01:56] <soundray> CorpseFeeder: it ensures that a standard set of packages is installed. It ensures a smooth upgrade between releases.
[01:57] <abovett> pumpkinhead: do you want it mounted every time?
[01:57] <ArrenLex_> CorpseFeeder: It exists so if someone wants to install ubuntu, instead of installing a hundred different packages, they can just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <penguinfan> does anybody know how to scroll back in irssi?
[01:57] <ruda> CorpseFeeder: gimp, and many crap software
[01:57] <clop> hi, it seems like the gnome bittorrent client has a problem in edgy -- if i try to open two torrents, on the second one, it says "socket in use" and doesn't download anything... any fixes for this?
[01:57] <Dextorion> test
[01:57] <killown> why ubuntu 6.10 install crash in grub install?
[01:57] <ruda> CorpseFeeder: it's safe to remove ubuntu-desktop. It's removed when you remove openoffice
[01:57] <lllloo> hi folks
[01:57] <LjL> Dextorion: successful
[01:57] <Dextorion> LjL: Thank you
[01:57] <killown> I record iso in 8X
[01:58] <jrib> penguinfan: page up
[01:58] <lllloo> any one here have experience with the Mplayer plugins for the browser
[01:58] <CorpseFeeder> ok.. I want to keep open office, so this means I cannot remove ubuntu-desktop? Is that right?
[01:58] <lllloo> ?
[01:58] <LjL> CorpseFeeder: no, it's not
[01:58] <penguinfan> jrib: thx
[01:58] <CorpseFeeder> ok
[01:58] <lllloo> in dapper
[01:58] <killown> ubuntu live is very heavy
[01:58] <sethk> CorpseFeeder, you can uninstall only the pieces you don't want, but why bother?
[01:59] <lllloo> i was able to load embedded videos with Mplayer
[01:59] <LjL> sethk: well, some of them do take up space
[01:59] <sethk> killown, yes, there are other live cds that are less heavy, if you need one.
[01:59] <lllloo> in edgy it just stays white
[01:59] <jordan> al: There are differences between different distributions, like what certain files are called and what versions are installed and where, when you run ./configure it looks at your system to see how it is set up and compile the binary accordingly, so if you compile something for Ubuntu, it likely won't work in Fedora.
[01:59] <killown> sethk, but I say ubuntu 6.10 install
[01:59] <sethk> LjL, yes, but space is so cheap these days.  if you need the space, sure.
[01:59] <penguinfan> jrib, kalikiana : i guess you meant dpkg-regconfigure xserver-xorg-core?
[01:59] <killown> sethk, crash install in grub
[01:59] <al> jordan: but ubuntu works with ubuntu (same version), right?
[01:59] <lllloo> anyone got suggestions
[02:00] <jordan> al, Yes.
[02:00] <jrib> penguinfan: I've always used it as xserver-xorg
[02:00] <al> jordan: i.e. it's just as one would expect an exe not to work in linux. different platform = different way of executing and blah
[02:00] <sethk> killown, I'm not following you.  what are we talking about?
[02:00] <killown> it send bug reportr
[02:00] <thevenin> is nano the same as vi or vim
[02:00] <jrib> thevenin: no
[02:00] <thevenin> oh
[02:00] <thevenin> how do they differ?
[02:00] <killown> sethk, I m trying install ubuntu 6.10 but it crash in grub
[02:00] <penguinfan> jrib: strange this package was not even installed
[02:01] <al> jordan: thanks. pretty much what i thought, just kinda annoyed there aren't precompiled versions for popular distros, but i suppose that would take a long time as there are probably many popular distros
[02:01] <thevenin> because i just used nano to edit /etc/network/interfaces and i reset and it works
[02:01] <jrib> penguinfan: that could be the source of your problem :)  Check for ubuntu-desktop too
[02:01] <killown> after send bug report and install stop
[02:01] <jrib> thevenin: vim is just a different editor
[02:01] <jordan> al, sort of, to be honest I don't know much of the specifics, you might try asking on #ubuntu-offtopic as this isn't really a support question.
[02:01] <thevenin> ok
[02:02] <gigiven> ola
[02:02] <al> jordan: cool. sorry :) and i think i know enough now anyway!
[02:02] <jordan> al, no problem :)
[02:02] <killown> sethk, you has ubuntu 6.10?
[02:02] <sethk> thevenin, different program, similar purpose
[02:02] <kalikiana> penguin-fan: the command i suggested is right, i thought i must be installed in any case
[02:02] <sethk> killown, yes, sure.  any error message?
[02:02] <VR_> hey all, im having trouble with repos. they're kinda slow for me. the security ones at least. i'm not sure if i can use a mirror.
[02:03] <jordan> al, It sounds like an interesting conversation, so I might ask it in offtopic myself.
[02:03] <killown> I dont remember
[02:03] <darwin_> I upgraded to edgy now my gnome seems to logoff when I don't use it for a while is that a new feature?
[02:03] <kalikiana> Last attempt this night: When I connect my Castlenet USB DSL modem, lsusb freezes at usbdev_connectinfo (with strace). Any suggestions?
[02:03] <killown> I install ubuntu 5.10 and upgrade for ubuntu  edgy
[02:04] <lonran_> what can be the reason why the computer turns sudenly off like when the cable is unplugged? it only happens when i am using ubuntu, not windows
[02:04] <abovett> darwin_: is you screensaver kicking in?
[02:04] <jprieur> LjL: with 800*600 in usplah.conf, it's ok when halting the system (I have the centered ubunto logo + progress bar) but on startup there's still the offset
[02:05] <LjL> jprieur: offset...? i must have missed some part, i was left at monitor-says-mode-is-not-supported
[02:06] <jprieur> LjL: using vga=771 is the #kopt line, I don't have the screen message, I have the splash screen but there's a big offset (the top left corner of the splash screen is located at the middle of the screen)
[02:06] <killown> sethk, How i do to install packages of cdrom ubuntu edgy in my box ubuntu breezy?
[02:06] <darwin_> yes it is
[02:06] <Tim90> hey guys i cant run
[02:06] <david__> i tried to search for mplayer with synaptic and it only came back with kmplayer...is that the same?
[02:06] <jprieur> LjL: I don't have this offset when halting the system
[02:06] <Tim90> sh ./runLime.sh
[02:06] <Crescendo_> sh
[02:07] <Crescendo_> ls
[02:07] <LjL> jprieur: uhm, then try with 800x600 in usplash.conf but without the vga option perhaps
[02:07] <Crescendo_> Ooops.
[02:07] <jrib> david__: no, you don't have multiverse
[02:07] <jrib> david__: pastebin your sources.list if you aren't sure why and we can help
[02:07] <lostboyz> i upgraded xubuntu but now when i try to start my computer it stalls and goes to a blinking underscore, any ideas what the problem may be?
[02:07] <jprieur> LjL: already tried, the splash is displayed when halting but I get the screen message back on startup
[02:07] <jordan> lonran_: It may be that your fans aren't working in ubuntu as the BIOS won't let the machine get too hot and shuts it down to prevent overheating ( just a guess )
[02:07] <david__> ok now im confused, how do i get multiverse? i read the things ppl told me
[02:07] <abovett> darwin_: there's an option to tell the screensaver not to lock the screen: can't remember where exactly but I can look if you like.
[02:07] <LjL> jprieur: then i don't know :\
[02:08] <Tim90> Im trying to install lime wire but, sh ./runLime.sh dont work
[02:08] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell david__ about multiverse
[02:08] <david__> it doesnt tell me
[02:08] <darwin_> yea it's not set to I saw that
[02:08] <Crescendo_> Edgy Eft's response time seems a noticeably slower than Dapper Drake... am I imagining things?
[02:08] <jprieur> ok LjL thx anyway ;) that's not big deal, solution will come a day
[02:08] <jrib> david__: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:08] <darwin_> and it's a full logoff
[02:08] <lonran_> jordan, it could be, compared with windows, the fans are working much less. how do i fix that?
[02:08] <abovett> darwin_: then I'm not sure - sorry.
[02:09] <darwin_> ok I just thought I'd ask
[02:09] <kalikiana> Crescendo_: you mean with a certain program?
[02:09] <darwin_> thanks
[02:09] <kalikiana> Crescendo_: i don't think it's slower in general
[02:09] <Crescendo_> kalikiana, no, altogether - the interface.  Scrollbars.
[02:09] <Crescendo_> Moving windows around.  Pressing buttons.
[02:10] <Verithrax> Hm, how do I enable bitmap fonts on X in Edgy? dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig doesn't give me the option to do so anymore.
[02:10] <Tim90> What does this mean  ./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[02:10] <kalikiana> Crescendo_: i think it varies, sometimes it's slower, but i don't feel a difference compared to dapper
[02:10] <alexrussell> jordan: remember how 'soundfly' or something gave me a command to run to refresh my kernel as i'd accidentally deleted a file: find /media/cdrom -name linux-image-2.6.15*deb | xargs sudo dpkg -i ? i've just had a little look on my original dapper cd (i assume this is the 'cdrom' he's talking about?) and can find no such file. the big installation image is in cd\casper\filesystem.squashfs
[02:11] <alexrussell> jordan: will this still be okay, or do i change the name to the file? sorry if you have no idea, i can't find the guy who originally tole me the thing, was just wondering if you knew (btw a few mins ago i was the al guy)
[02:11] <ProN00b> anyone got an idea when gaim beta4 will come to edgy ?
[02:11] <VR_> hey all, im having trouble with repos. they're kinda slow for me. the security ones at least. i'm not sure if i can use a mirror.
[02:12] <jordan> alexrussell: I don't know :(
[02:12] <ProN00b> VR_, i heard you can
[02:12] <alexrussell> jordan: cool. thanks anyway
[02:12] <ProN00b> VR_, if you aren't paranoid i am even sure you can
[02:12] <jordan> alexrussell: Actually I may know
[02:12] <alexrussell> jordan: ooh, go on... :)
[02:13] <ProN00b> anyone got an idea when gaim beta4 will come to edgy ?
[02:13] <cynical> ProN00b: theres a deb file floating around in the forums already
[02:13] <ProN00b> cynical, yeah, and i could build it myself
[02:13] <pumpkinhea1> how can i get synaptic to recognize me as superuser
[02:13] <jordan> alexrussell: I think you need to use the alternate install CD
[02:13] <ProN00b> cynical, but when is it coming to the official repos ?
[02:13] <cynical> ah, no idea
[02:14] <hiffy> woa. What every happened to the tty's in 6.10? I press ctrl-alt-f# and nothing happens
[02:14] <jrib> pumpkinhea1: it should prompt you for your password
[02:14] <hiffy> *ever happened
[02:14] <pumpkinhea1> it's not... :(
[02:14] <ryanakca> what package provides libgobject-2.0?
[02:14] <alexrussell> jordan: ahh i had a feeling that might be the case. well i'm downloading the edgy alternate cd now so i can do the "offline upgrade" that it promises, so i may as well just do that. cheers for the help!
[02:14] <kalikiana> pumpkinhea1: then do 'gksudo synaptic'
[02:14] <jordan> hiffy: I have the same problem, I think it has to do with what they did with the new upsplash.
[02:14] <lostsync> anyone got any ideas on how to get my clock to actually display the proper time?  the panel applet crashes any time i try to use it to correct it.
[02:15] <sethk> hiffy, hasn't changed, you must have clobbered your config somehow during the install.
[02:15] <VR_> ProN00b: how can i?
[02:15] <mygod> I can't install netbeans  there are more segment errors
[02:15] <sethk> lostsync, you can use ntp-update, but it shouldn't crash.
[02:15] <hiffy> sethk: There wasn't anything to clobber. I just clicked through everything
[02:15] <pumpkinhea1> kali ok that did it
[02:15] <ProN00b> VR_, find a mirror and change it in your sources.list file
[02:15] <jordan> sethk: On my machine, the tty's only work when I don't use the Edgy upsplash.
[02:15] <VR_> ProN00b: i'm not sure how.
[02:15] <sethk> hiffy, I didn't mean you did something wrong, I mean during the install something went wrong
[02:15] <sethk> jordan, that's bizarre.
[02:16] <pumpkinhea1> one more thing, in terminal i type su root, give pw and access denied ???:-/
[02:16] <VR_> ProN00b: i know i have to edit the sources.list, but i dont know which part i need to change.
[02:16] <sethk> jordan, I"m trying to imagine how that can happen.
[02:16] <lostsync> sethk, gnome's applet crashes...it's been fixed on gnome's end but ubuntu hasn't got the fix in the repos yet for whatever reason according to bugzilla
[02:16] <hiffy> sethk: :P. Sorry, didn't mean to sound defensive.
[02:16] <sethk> lostsync, ok, then ntp-update will work for you, most likely.
[02:16] <ProN00b> VR_, the things that look like urls ^^
[02:16] <jordan> sethk: I am on a mac though so it's probably Apple's incomplete BIOS emulation.
[02:16] <kalikiana> pumpkinhea1: type just su to get root
[02:16] <sethk> hiffy, I didn't take it that way.
[02:16] <pumpkinhea1> did that too
[02:16] <lostsync> sethk, i used ntp-update but after a reboot it sets the time back to what i guess is UTC
[02:16] <sethk> jordan, hmm ...
[02:16] <VR_> ProN00b: ha, yes, so even the "security" ones?
[02:16] <kalikiana> pumpkinhea1: then maybe you did not create a root password?
[02:17] <sethk> lostsync, I guess you can't set the clocks time zone, either, or it will crash.
[02:17] <pumpkinhea1> no i didn't, just a user pw, how do i do it?
[02:17] <abovett> pumpkinhea1: have you tried sudo -s
[02:17] <hiffy> Dapper seems to have gone a bit more smoothly last time.
[02:18] <pumpkinhea1> ok cool kali thanks
[02:18] <lostsync> sethk, would installing ntpd help?  <= 6.06 had a time synchronize at boot, i'm guessing ntpd was what was doing it?
[02:18] <pumpkinhea1> have to figure out why this works this way later
[02:18] <sethk> hiffy, I always, always, wait a couple of weeks after a release.
[02:18] <sethk> lostsync, correct, yes, but it would also probably use utc, if ntp-update did
[02:18] <Onashi> I have an Nvidia card, what's the name of the driver package that I need?
[02:18] <jvai> u ppl r trailbazers
[02:18] <Onashi> Propreitery ones
[02:19] <jordan> sethk: Do you think it is worth a try to have hiffy disable upsplash and see if that helps like it did for me?
[02:19] <hiffy> sethk: Do they backport updates to the distro ISO's often? My distro-upgrade maneuver completely flopped; this is me trying through the cd.
[02:19] <jvai> isnt it too soon for breezy?
[02:19] <ProN00b> VR_, i heard you can as the packages are signed now
[02:19] <sethk> jordan, yes.  I don't understand what's going on, so I can't be sure it isn't a factor.  and it's an easy thing to test.
[02:19] <kalikiana> pumpkinhea1: do 'sudo passwd root' i think
[02:19] <alexrussell> sethk: i was just about to ask. it seems to many people are having a few minorish problems in edgy, do you (and others?) recommend i wait a little bit before installing it? i'm not mch of a linux guy so i probably won't know how to solve much of anythgin that may happen to me. i'm currently on dapper and other than wireless it's all good for me.
[02:19] <Yancho> anyone has an idea on which package i need to install for this one pls? : The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[02:19] <hiffy> jordan: always worth a try; I'm unfamiliar with the mechanism that enables ttys.
[02:19] <VR_> ProN00b: i see. and the mirrors are listed someplace in the wiki, right?
[02:20] <sethk> alexrussell, yes, not because of anything specific, just because of the normal just released things.  This is a large system and no matter what, things come up.
[02:20] <jordan> hiffy: It is a kernel parameter, but I am no good at helping people with grub ( I use lilo )
[02:20] <ProN00b> VR_, yeah, i think so
[02:20] <Tim90> What does this mean >?./runLime.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[02:20] <cynical> alexrussell: I've read that some people who installed software via automatix had issues after upgrading and that the automatix team was working on preventing it in future releases
[02:20] <hiffy> jordan: oy vey.
[02:20] <alexrussell> sethk: yeah. to be honest i probably wouldn't normally wanna upgarde for a few weeks, it's just that wireless is my only access to the internet so i may be forced into it by stupid acx stuff
[02:21] <cynical> alexrussell: but personally I didn't have a single problem (maybe I was one of the few..)
[02:21] <c_lisp> how can I change the theme background of my pc booting up ubuntu?
[02:21] <sethk> alexrussell, well, then you are taking a risk that you understand, which is perfectly ok.
[02:21] <VR_> ProN00b: thanks
[02:21] <abovett> Tim90: Sounds like there's a bug in the runLime.sh script!
[02:21] <alexrussell> cynical: interesting. i'm currently downloading the edgy alternate cd so i can do an offline upgrade (my internet's out at the mo) so you think that'll go alright?
[02:21] <sethk> cynical, many people don't have problems.  Most, in fact, although I can't prove that of course.
[02:22] <lib8264q> hello channel
[02:22] <alexrussell> sethk, cynical: i'll probably just go for it. no doubt you'll see me back in a few days if i had any problems with it! :D
[02:22] <jordan> sethk: It is a kernel parameter, but I am no good at helping people with grub ( I use lilo )
[02:22] <cynical> sethk: yeah I've been wondering about that myself.  I havent seen a single problem that everyone is having
[02:22] <hiffy> sethk: heh. We've got enough anecdotal evidence to fill a book - there's even a /. story.
[02:22] <sethk> jordan, you do essentially the same thing with grub, only in /boot/grub/menu.lst, and on the same line as the kernel name
[02:22] <gubluntu> should i be using my machine at all during a dis-upgrade?
[02:22] <ubuntu_newb> ok now I'm on my Ubuntu system
[02:22] <DigitalNinja> I've got an EPoX 6100 motherboard with a nvidia 6100 video card built in. I added a NX7600GT nvidia card. When I look at the Xorg.0.log file it says I have two GPU's. Shouldn't it say I only have one?
[02:22] <ubuntu_newb> I just installed LAMP on Ubuntu\
[02:22] <ubuntu_newb> was easy as hell
[02:23] <cynical> alexrussell: ha, I upgraded via the net so I'm sure you wont have any trouble upgrading from the cd, gl tho!
[02:23] <sethk> hiffy, yes, indeed, but remember that, on a help channel, you find people who need help.  :)
[02:23] <ToCo> Hello good people! I'm first time using IRC and for first time trying to install ubuntu, and ofc i got stuck :-) may i ask here my questions?
[02:23] <ubuntu_newb> now I can't configure my passwords and all
[02:23] <alexrussell> cynical: cheers
[02:23] <jordan> sethk: In lilo I add the line "append=splash"
[02:23] <sethk> hiffy, so statistically it doesn't prove anything, either way.
[02:23] <ubuntu_newb> I can't find where to put files
[02:23] <hiffy> sethk: details! And, hence the anecdotal evidence tagline.
[02:23] <sethk> jordan, in grub, you don't use append=, you just put    splash     at the end of the kternl line.
[02:23] <jordan> sethk: To turn it on at least
[02:23] <ubuntu_newb> where the apache's httpd.conf file is
[02:23] <jano> q wea pasa aca
[02:23] <sethk> hiffy, yes.
[02:23] <jano> xupenlo
[02:23] <Sensae> Hello
[02:23] <sethk> hiffy, and I'm not really disagreeing with you, just saying that the magnitude of the problem is unknown
[02:24] <gubluntu> !edgy
[02:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[02:24] <jano> hellow my lidy
[02:24] <abovett> ToCo: what do you want to know?
[02:24] <lib8264q> what is a good  gui to manage a lamp install ?
[02:24] <gubluntu> is there a edgy channel?
[02:24] <alexrussell> jordan, sethk: talking about grub. ubuntu helpfully added grub and set it up so that i had ubuntu forst, then a couple more ubuntus and then finally windows. i'd like to make it so that windows is at the top (i.e. timeout default) is it simple enough? if i do it in the boot menu i'd have to edit the commands as far as i can see
[02:24] <Tim90> abovett: thanks
[02:24] <ubuntu_newb> that's what I need to
[02:24] <ubuntu_newb> a gui to manage my lamp install
[02:24] <hiffy> sethk: Oh well.
[02:24] <sethk> alexrussell, you just move it to the top in the file.
[02:25] <ubuntu_newb> I just installed lamp on ubuntu?  What is a good control panel/gui to use for configuring it?
[02:25] <sethk> alexrussell, before the block for what is currently the first, as you intuited.
[02:25] <alexrussell> sethk: the /boot/whatever file you just mentioned to jordan?
[02:25] <vidd> what is the command to find your ip address?
[02:25] <sethk> alexrussell, he was asking how to add a kernel parameter in grub, and I said add it to the end of the line that specifies the kernel
[02:25] <sethk> vidd, ifconfig
[02:25] <vidd> ty
[02:25] <ubuntu_newb> just go to http://whatsmyip.org
[02:26] <ToCo> abovett, im trying to install ubuntu on a computer with only 128 mb of ram. it hangs when i run that "install" icon on desktop. so i managed to find that i need to download Alternate version of Ubuntu, but cant find anywhere link to it. found some for 6.06 (if im not mistaken) and ubuntu is 6.10. can you provide me a link to file which i need to download?
[02:26] <alexrussell> sethk: but if i wanna move windows to the top of the list i do it in /boot/grub/menu.lst ? (the filename pretty much gives me a huge yes to that question but it's worth making sure!)?
[02:26] <sethk> ubuntu_newb, that's to find out your public address if you are behind a NAT box.  I was telling him how to display the machines real address.
[02:26] <sethk> alexrussell, right, that's the file.
[02:26] <jordan> sethk: So Tell him how to delete the splash parameter temporarily at boot ( I think grub can do that )
[02:26] <abovett> ToCo: Hold on a sec- I'll just check...
[02:26] <ubuntu_newb> oh you mean his local IP on the network?
[02:27] <zecamarada>  Algum ae j teve problemas com UTF-8 no BRoffice??
[02:27] <sethk> jordan, I don't remember the kernel switch for it.
[02:27] <lib8264q> think you need the alternitive install text based installer
[02:27] <jordan> sethk: I think it is just splash
[02:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !it > zecamarada
[02:27] <ubuntu_newb> I have LAMP running on my ubuntu machine now but I don't know how to set everything up
[02:27] <sethk> jordan, k
[02:27] <ubuntu_newb> I have no control panel
[02:27] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell zecamarada about pt
[02:27] <ubuntu_newb> could someone please help?
[02:28] <LjL> Admiral_Chicago: that wasn't italian :P
[02:28] <ubuntu_newb> I want to use my own web server for testing purposes
[02:28] <Commander-Crowe> crimsun thanks for the help I got it to work
[02:28] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: control panel?  lame.  just start digging through the documentation and learning your way around.
[02:28] <Yancho> anyone has an idea on which package i need to install for this one pls? : The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1 - from where to get glibc-2.1 -- doesnt exist in apt
[02:28] <zecamarada> !br > zecamarada
[02:28] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: advise changing root mysql password as first thing you do
[02:28] <ubuntu_newb> how do I do that?
[02:28] <hiffy> zecamarada: Duvido que voce va ter sorte aqui
[02:28] <vidd> ubuntu_newb, im acually doing it now, and making a write up
[02:28] <ubuntu_newb> huh?
[02:28] <sethk> Yancho, I'll check the package, but that library is used for virtually every program on the box.
[02:28] <hiffy> zecamarada: por acaso nao havera um #ubuntubr?
[02:29] <hiffy> ou pt, enfim.
[02:29] <ubuntu_newb> vidd, what do you mean?
[02:29] <Psi-Jack> Heh. LAMP?
[02:29] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: google is your friend.
[02:29] <Yancho> ubuntu_newb - me new too : but i went on this tutorial : http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10
[02:29] <LjL> hiffy: there is both
[02:29] <LjL> !pt
[02:29] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[02:29] <jordan> quintin: RTFA type comments aren't really apropriate here.
[02:29] <akijikan> anyone: I need help creating a 1440x900_75 modeline for my monitor
[02:29] <zecamarada> Thanks
[02:29] <Admiral_Chicago> LjL: opps
[02:29] <bazz> i have some files (directories really) that i'd like to keep in a big encrypted block (file).  ideally i could mount and retain the current directory structure under the mount point.  looks like dm_crypt is the way to go but i can't find any good docs on how to do this, any pointers?
[02:29] <zecamarada> I'm in #ubuntu-br
[02:29] <zecamarada> =D
[02:29] <sethk> Yancho, it's renamed to libc on disk and in the package manager
[02:29] <hiffy> there you go. Have fun.
[02:29] <Yancho> sethk what you mean? is there any way i can check if it really exists pls ?
[02:29] <vidd> ubuntu_newb Im writing a document on how to set up apache
[02:29] <Yancho> a okis :)
[02:30] <sethk> Yancho, sure,  ls -l /lib/libc*
[02:30] <ayush> hi
[02:30] <Psi-Jack> Heh. And here I am, messing around with Roxen. :)
[02:30] <ubuntu_newb> well it's already installed but I don't know how to set up databases and users and all that
[02:30] <Yancho> Package libc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:30] <Yancho> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:30] <Yancho> is only available from another source
[02:30] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: might try phpmyadmin
 thats what im documenting
[02:30] <LjL> bazz: type "encrypted filesystem site:help.ubuntu.com" into google
[02:30] <sethk> Yancho, the package name is libc6, not libc
[02:30] <Yancho> a oki :)
[02:30] <sethk> Yancho, but that has nothing to do with the ls command I gave you
[02:31] <abovett> ToCo: have a look at http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ and scroll down to the Alternate section
[02:31] <lib8264q> can someone tell me what extension is after the /etc/apt/preferences file
[02:31] <sethk> Yancho, the ls command was to show the primary file of that package, which is libc.so.#  (# is 5 or 6 usually)
[02:31] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: read the mysql documentation.  to get started, try 'create database test; use test; grant all privileges on test.* to user@localhost identified by 'gandalf''
[02:31] <sethk> lib8264q, none
[02:31] <Yancho> a oki sethk .. i have it infact :|
[02:31] <ubuntu_newb> What is the default root password on mysql when you first install LAMP?
[02:31] <sethk> lib8264q, extensions are unnecessary in unix, although they are allowed as names
[02:31] <akijikan> can someone help me with modelines for xorg.cong?
[02:31] <Yancho> libc-2.4.so etc
[02:31] <quintin> ubuntu_newb: there genereally isn't a root pw for mysql.  that's why I advised changing it
[02:32] <Yancho> erm so how can i install this package pls ? :S
 got to www.linux.org/lessons/advanced/index.html
[02:33] <bazz> LjL: thanks :)
[02:33] <vandit2k7> Hi I am having problems with my ATI driver can anybody help\
[02:33] <vidd> i have printer set up
[02:33] <gubluntu> should i be using my machine at all during a dis-upgrade?
[02:33] <sticazzi> vandit2k7, what's the problem?
[02:33] <sethk> Yancho, right.  now, there are two glibc versions that you typically need, because some programs only work with the older glibc (version 5)
[02:33] <morphish> i can just dump  /var/cache/apt/archives/* , right?
[02:34] <vidd> the local machine can print to it, the XP machine can print to it, but my linux laptop cant
[02:34] <sethk> Yancho, I forget what the equivalent of v5 is in the 2.X notation
[02:34] <bazz> LjL: hmm, although this seems to require knowing how much data i want apriori.  ideally i'd like to be able to copy and delete and have the file grow and shrink accordingly
[02:34] <sethk> Yancho, the package has libc5 in it.  might be libc5, or that might be just part of the package name
[02:34] <TIger_IT> Somebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma mode!!!
[02:34] <TIger_IT> udma7
[02:34] <Yancho> sethk : im following this tutorial - maybe it can help :S http://tjw.org/etded/
[02:34] <vidd> I installed gnome-cups-manager
[02:34] <ubuntu_newb> ok I used phpmyadmin to change my root password for mysql
[02:35] <ubuntu_newb> I figured that part out.
[02:35] <Railer> hey what is the apt-get command that checks if you already have a progam installed?
[02:35] <TIger_IT> hdparm.......... is set in udma2 :(
[02:35] <ubuntu_newb> now to find my files on an ubuntu system
[02:35] <LjL> bazz, i've never really done that. you're a bit on your own i'm afraid, unless someone else chirps in. try #ubuntu-offtopic as well
[02:35] <ToCo> good night to everyone!
[02:35] <bazz> LjL:  okay, thanks
[02:35] <gubluntu> is there a edgy channel?
[02:35] <sethk> bazz, I don't know of a program that uses a dynamic block for that purpose.  good idea, but I don't know whether it exists.
[02:35] <TIger_IT> ubuntu_newb:  use finde
[02:35] <TIger_IT> ubuntu_newb:  use find
[02:35] <ubuntu_newb> where would my user accounts be created for LAMP?
[02:35] <rimad> so ubuntu is using apt to keep itself up to date right?
[02:35] <ubuntu_newb> home/username/httpdocs?
[02:35] <rimad> can yum be used?
[02:35] <iter> yum ugh
[02:35] <gubluntu> yucky
[02:36] <iter> yum takes 5 mins to tell you packagename isn't available
[02:36] <bazz> sethk: hrm, so i pretty much have to have a fixed size huh?
[02:36] <TIger_IT> Somebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma7 mode!!!  please!
[02:36] <gubluntu> !patience
[02:36] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:36] <rimad> i use fedora for my ...server purposes
[02:36] <ryanakca> what package provides libgobject-2.0?
[02:36] <rimad> and wanted ubuntu on my laptop
[02:36] <sethk> bazz, as far as I know, yes.  could be something recent that I don't know about, though.
[02:36] <rimad> i use yum for fedora ;)
[02:36] <sethk> bazz, otherwise, that's a good thing to write if you have time on your hands.  :)
[02:36] <akijikan> can someone help me with modelines for xorg.conf?
[02:36] <LjL> !find libgobject | ryanakca
[02:36] <ubotu> Package/file libgobject does not exist in edgy
[02:37] <sethk> rimad, as a practical matter, I'd say no.  if you want ubuntu, use dpkg.  dpkg is really very easy to use.
[02:37] <TIger_IT> I need some support.........
[02:37] <bazz> sethk:  okay, thanks, wish i did have the time
[02:37] <deforamtive> Where are the startup scripts?
[02:37] <deforamtive> There appears to be no rc.conf
[02:37] <Yancho> !find libtermcap.so.2 | Yancho
[02:37] <ubotu> Package/file libtermcap.so.2 does not exist in edgy
[02:37] <ryanakca> LjL: I've looked on packages.ubuntu.com and in apt-cache... and it's a dependency for amarok, according to http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod#Artwork_not_working
[02:38] <LjL> ryanakca: well, the bot is lying. look at libglib2.0-0 and -dev
[02:38] <LjL> !msg the bot
[02:38] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots  -  Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[02:38] <deforamtive> How do I disable the gdm deamon?
[02:39] <ryanakca> LjL: was that for you or me?
[02:39] <ryanakca> LjL: kk, ty
[02:39] <Dextorion> deforamtive: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:39] <LjL> ryanakca: what?
[02:39] <gubluntu> deformative, you want to disable gdm from starting on boot? or just stop it?
[02:39] <ryanakca> LjL: /msg the bot
[02:39] <JoseStefan> hi
[02:39] <deforamtive> Dextorion,  no I mean disable it in the startup script,  I am assuming from that that init.conf is the startup script.
[02:39] <deforamtive> Stop it from starting.
[02:39] <iter> deformative: update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[02:39] <LjL> ryanakca: it was for yancho actually
[02:39] <Dextorion> upd..
[02:40] <Dextorion> deforamtive: what iter said :)
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> I keep getting this error: can't find swap space signature anyone know how to fix that?
[02:40] <deforamtive> Alright,  thankyou.
[02:40] <iter> Dextorion: also there are runlevels in debian
[02:40] <vandit2k7> Hi I have problems with ATI driver..can anybody help please?
[02:40] <Megaqwerty> *"can't find swap space signature"
[02:40] <sethk> Megaqwerty, mkswap, but be sure you are pointing at swap, not file space
[02:40] <gubluntu> vandit2k7, just ask
[02:40] <gubluntu> vandit2k7, if someone can help, theyll answer
[02:40] <ryanakca> LjL: ah, kk
[02:40] <iter> Dextorion: and scripts for the runlevel are in /etc/rcN.d
[02:40] <Yancho> LjL if it is there then why cant my system find it? :S
[02:40] <sethk> Megaqwerty, dangerous command, if you use the wrong /dev/hd##, you might clobber a file system
[02:41] <Dextorion> iter: uhm.. do you mean deforamtive ? :p
[02:41] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone have a better (safer) way?
[02:41] <iter> haha
[02:41] <iter> whoops
[02:41] <Dextorion> iter: ;) ;)
[02:41] <sethk> Megaqwerty, there are gui tools you can use.  you should find a disk manager tool on your menus
[02:41] <ryanakca> how do I uninstall kde4base ?
[02:42] <gubluntu> apt-get remove kde4base
[02:42] <gubluntu> if its a package
[02:42] <Megaqwerty> sethk: gnome partition manager?
[02:42] <ryanakca> how do I uninstall kde4base ? (yes, I have been sudo apt-get --purge remove kde4base )
[02:42] <vandit2k7> Hi I installed ATi driver from the add/remove but when screen saver starts running its working for a while but then it kicks me out and logs me off but doesn't crash gnome or xserver just logs me off
[02:42] <vandit2k7> what do  I do?
[02:42] <sethk> Megaqwerty, sounds reasonable.  I use kde so I can't check it easily.
[02:42] <LjL> Yancho, the fact that the bot lists it (which it doesn't, actually) doesn't mean you have it installed
[02:43] <gubluntu> ubotu tell vandit2k7 about ati
[02:43] <Megaqwerty> sethk: ah. I think the real name is gparted
[02:43] <gubluntu> vandit2k7, use that howto
[02:43] <jordan> vandit2k7: Does it bring you back to the GDM?
[02:43] <ryanakca> gubluntu: tried that
[02:43] <Yancho> LjL is there a way to check where each file is in which package? so i can install the package pls ?
[02:43] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Yancho about apt-file
[02:43] <vandit2k7> jordan yes it just logs me out like I hve to type my user name and password
[02:43] <LjL> Yancho: i think your best bet is libncurses5-dev
[02:43] <gubluntu> ryanakca: whats the output?
[02:44] <Yancho> great LjL :) ill do what u told me .. many thanks
[02:44] <ryanakca> gubluntu: forget, tried that about a week ago
[02:44] <gubluntu> ryanakca: try again :-D
[02:44] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Yancho about packages
[02:44] <gubluntu> sudo apt-get remove kde4base
[02:44] <LjL> Yancho: those are other possibilities. packages.ubuntu.com is handy
[02:44] <ryanakca> gubluntu: I'm trying to rinstall kubuntu-desktop, but I can't install it with kde4base remnants kicking around
[02:45] <Megaqwerty> !swap
[02:45] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:45] <gubluntu> ryanakca: try remove again, and then tell me what it ouputs
[02:45] <ryanakca> gubluntu: ok, it's uninstalled, but it left remnants..
[02:46] <gubluntu> ryanakca: msg me the output
[02:46] <ryanakca> gubluntu: it has been uninstalled since last weekend.. but, it's dependencies or something is left kicking around
[02:46] <abovett> I'm new to IRC - can someone recommend where to learn more about using it effectively?
[02:47] <abovett> I'm having trouble following everything!
[02:47] <Falstius> abovett: the only important thing to know is don't feed the trolls :)
[02:47] <jordan> vandit2k7: If it is just a black screen asking you for your password then you need to go to System -> preferences -> screensaver and uncheck the option to lock the screen.
[02:47] <ryanakca> abovett: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom ... go to the transcripts and class one :)
[02:47] <abovett> ryanakca: Thanks
[02:48] <azureal> i broke sound, and reinstalling my kernel didnt help... why!?
[02:48] <kingace> hello, i'm trying to use dvd-decrypter and dvd-shrink under wine, but both of them "can't detect any devices"
[02:48] <Railer> how can I check if I have a package already installed?
[02:49] <jrib> Railer: apt-cache policy package_name
[02:49] <sethk> Railer, easy way is to run synaptic, and search for the package.
[02:49] <Emess> package -v ?
[02:49] <sethk> Railer, there are several ways, as you see
[02:49] <Yancho> LjL this packages.ubuntu.com is really cool :) big thanks for it
[02:49] <snivitz> jjjjjq1
[02:49] <Tim90> XML Parsing Error: syntax error
[02:49] <Tim90> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/extensions/extensions.xul?type=themes
[02:49] <Tim90> Line Number 1, Column 1:
[02:49] <Tim90> ?
[02:50] <LjL> !paste
[02:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:50] <Railer> does synaptic see all packages including ones installed through apt-get?
[02:50] <LjL> Railer: yes
[02:50] <Megaqwerty> !gparted
[02:50] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:50] <Tim90> !snackbot
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snackbot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <Tim90> !botsnack
[02:50] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:51] <ubuntu_newb> ok found my file directory
[02:51] <ubuntu_newb> it's var/www
[02:52] <Pelo> anyone know what happened to the disk manager type thing app that was in admin in dapper ?
[02:52] <shadowlab> um
[02:52] <Poseidon> hi there where can i download the new ubuntu 6.10?
[02:52] <cynikal> www.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <Pelo> Poseidon,  www.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <TIger_IT> Somebody know how tell to hdparm ... Ive udma7 mode!!!  please!
[02:53] <Pelo> Poseidon,  or you can get a torrent
[02:53] <Megaqwerty> sethk: Thank you for your help. I did it!
[02:53] <Megaqwerty> Poseidon: Do you already have Ubuntu?
[02:53] <Poseidon> no i just want to http link
[02:53] <Megaqwerty> oh
[02:53] <cynikal> lol
[02:53] <cynikal> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[02:53] <Railer> one more question, then off I go, what happens if I "apt-get install" something that I all ready have installed ?
[02:54] <Poseidon> thanks
[02:54] <cynikal> np
[02:54] <cynikal> Railer: then it will tell you that you already have it installed
[02:54] <Railer> cool thanks
[02:54] <Kannix> just in case somebody else is interested: I solved the "how to import your backup mail from KMail (or any other mailer) into Evolution" problem using the "archivemail" tool.
[02:54] <bimberi> Railer: if there's a new version it will update, otherwise it'll do nothing
[02:54] <Pelo> Railer,   you'll get a msg that you are already up to date on that package I beleive
[02:55] <Railer> ok
[02:56] <nbh758> I am having problems with Amaya browser
[02:56] <nbh758> It blinks on then gone
[02:57] <nbh758> any ideas?
[02:57] <e_machinist> Am I missing a repository? GnomeSword is at version 2.1.7 in the edgy reps., but only at 2.1.5 in the dapper reps. Am I missing a backport rep or something?
[02:57] <Pelo> nbh758,  uninstall, completely,  then re-install
[02:57] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know how I can import all my mail and settings into evolution? (I'm using Thunderbird)
[02:57] <Yancho> LjL - installed all the packages which sounded like it .. now .. trying again if it works hehe
[02:57] <grndslm> what do you guys think the easiest way to transfer files on a local network between windows & ubuntu are??  ftp?
[02:57] <nbh758> I have tried that several times
[02:57] <Pelo> Megaqwerty,  there is an import option in evolution,  under files
[02:58] <cynikal> grndslm: samba definitely
[02:58] <Pelo> grndslm, ,  samba and shared folder
[02:58] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: Yes, but that won't work seeing as Thunderbird isn't an older version of Evolution
[02:58] <grndslm> samba's that's the easiest, really?
[02:59] <cynikal> grndslm: its incredibly easy in ubuntu. Just create a folder, for example, named shared in your home directory. Then right click on it and choose share folder. It will install samba and configure everything for you
[02:59] <sethk> grndslm, depends.  samba can be tricky to set up.
[02:59] <e_machinist> Where can I find a list of all available repositories?
[02:59] <sethk> grndslm, I use sftp, which is just like ftp only secure.  if you install cygwin on the windows box, then you have both sides
[02:59] <Chipper> e_machinist: google
[02:59] <e_machinist> Chipper, done.
[02:59] <sethk> grndslm, there are many ways
[02:59] <Pelo> Megaqwerty,  when I tried to import my old stuff,   evolution searched for info from several clients, including thunderbird
[02:59] <grndslm> cynikal...ok, will try your suggestion first
[02:59] <thinkl> I'm switching from Windows and am trying to edit webpages. On our windows machines, I can open files on our webserver directly from explorer through some kind of magic. Does anyone know what that magic is and how I reproduce it in linux? I can't ftp into our server or ssh in so this must be something else...
[02:59] <jordan> !repositories | e_machinist
[02:59] <ubotu> e_machinist: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> Pelo: Huh, it didn't find Thunderbird for me.
[03:00] <azureal> hi...is there some simple way to revert to default ubuntu sound settings?  it does not seem to be kernel dependent, so it's really been a headache...atm it won't even recognize my soundcard =/
[03:00] <dave> anyone know how i can make xinerama work better with gnome?
[03:00] <Megaqwerty> pelo: oh, wait. I think I see how. thanks
[03:00] <nbh758> You can access repositories through synaptic package manager
[03:00] <sethk> thinkl, sounds like you are remotely mounting the drives.  windows calls it "mapping a share" so you won't know you are mounting a file system and can do it anywhere, not just in windows.  :)
[03:01] <e_machinist> meh, I already got all of the repositories apparently.
[03:01] <sethk> thinkl, seriously, you can do exactly the same thing in linux, in several ways.
[03:01] <sethk> thinkl, or, you can ssh into the linux box itself, and edit them there.  lots of options
[03:01] <jordan> azureal: Possibly through dpkg-reconfigure -phigh
[03:01] <Poseidon> i want make a dual-boot of XP and ubuntu.but i have no exprience to do that
[03:01] <meatwad64> is lame available on 6.10?
[03:01] <thinkl> sethk -- It doesn't look like a drive being mounted.