[00:53] <moppers> how does scroll switching in raring work?
[00:55] <moppers> also is it me, or is raring's unity slower than quantal?
[06:39] <nonuby> how do I disable random changing wallapepr?
[06:39] <nonuby> wallpaper
[07:59] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:28] <ssn> hi
[08:28] <ssn> where can i get 13.04 netinstall (minimal)? i need to install ubuntu on a software raid
[08:40] <ssn> ok found it
[09:41] <slinnky> raring ringtail is snappy
[09:41] <slinnky> can't deny that at all
[09:44] <lordievader> slinnky: :)
[10:14] <hachre> I'm getting this since today, is it just my system that's broken or is it a common thing right now?
[10:14] <hachre> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:14] <hachre>  unity : Depends: libnux-abiversion-20130411.0 but it is not installable
[10:15] <smartboyhw> hachre, let me check please.
[10:16] <hachre> sure
[10:17] <smartboyhw> hachre, weird 20130411.0 ?
[10:17] <hachre> yea thats what it says
[10:18] <hachre> apt-cache search libnux-abiversion only finds a -4.0 though
[10:18] <smartboyhw> hachre, ah I know what happened.
[10:18] <smartboyhw> hachre, please wait for a bit:P The nux library which provides the libnux-abiersion-20130411.0 is just uploaded:p
[10:18] <hachre> ah ok:)
[10:19] <hachre> np
[10:19] <smartboyhw> hachre, do you have -proposed enabled (just asking)
[10:19] <hachre> yes
[10:19] <smartboyhw> hachre, hmm it should show up now.
[10:19] <smartboyhw> Do a sudo apt-get update and retry.
[10:19] <hachre> ok ill update and try again
[10:20] <hachre> same thing so far
[10:20] <smartboyhw> hachre, you can do a "sudo apt-get update" within this short period?
[10:20] <hachre> yea :)
[10:20] <smartboyhw> Type the EXACT command in terminal please.
[10:20] <smartboyhw> hachre, :O
[10:21] <smartboyhw> hachre, it is built and in -proposed.
[10:21] <hachre> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-proposed restricted multiverse universe main
[10:21] <hachre> thats my line for proposed
[10:21] <hachre> thats all i need right?
[10:21] <hggdh> and only carried over to main after fully built & confirmed
[10:22] <hggdh> having -proposed enabled *can* give you temporary inconsistencies
[10:22] <hachre> yeah that's np
[10:22] <hachre> just wanted to report it:) or check that it's not just me
[10:22] <smartboyhw> hachre, :)
[10:23]  * smartboyhw doesn't use Unity, IIRC.
[10:27] <hachre> nothing has changed here still
[10:29] <smartboyhw> hachre, wait till it gets to -release then. Shouldn't take more than ~2 hours
[10:29] <hachre> okay :)
[10:29] <hachre> weird.. the proposed line I posted above was right wasn't it?
[10:34] <smartboyhw> hachre, yes it is correct.
[10:37] <hggdh> hachre: a source package can generate many binary packages; as these packages are ready, they are published to -proposed. But their interdependencies may require a still-building piece (or even a completely different source/binary packages)
[10:38] <hachre> I see
[10:38] <hachre> I just retired and it works now
[10:38] <hggdh> this is one of the reasons we initially publish to -proposed (another being acceptance tests)
[10:38] <hachre> unity is back :)
[10:38] <hachre> retried*
[10:38] <hggdh> heh.
[10:39] <smartboyhw> hachre, \o/
[10:39] <hggdh> hachre: rule of thumb: if you are using -proposed, carefully check what is going to happen on a dist-upgrade, and manually select packages to be updated if you see "weird" changes
[10:40] <hachre> yeah, I noticed that now :)
[10:40] <hachre> wouldn't have happened with upgrade
[10:40] <hachre> but it's no big deal, I have snapshots to revert to that I create before every update in case anything goes horribly wrong
[10:40] <hggdh> no, it would not. Also you would not have new packages installed, or obsoleted packages removed
[10:41] <hachre> You mean packages that didn't exist before?
[10:41] <hggdh> (which might cause you a whole different set of problems ;-)
[10:41] <hggdh> yes
[10:42] <hachre> ok I see :)
[10:42] <hggdh> new dependencies, for example
[10:42] <hachre> yea
[10:42]  * smartboyhw likes dist-upgrade with -proposed :P
[10:43] <smartboyhw> Except when times if I upgraded with xorg-server not being fully uploaded
[10:43] <smartboyhw> That will bring me to a tty instead the following day:P
[10:43] <hggdh> heh
[10:43] <hachre> I've just switched to using Ubuntu from Arch (and before that Gentoo) recently and have little experience with the specifics of deb based package management... but I'm starting to get the hang of it ;)
[10:51] <smartboyhw> hachre, hurray!
[10:55] <slinnky> hachre, familiarize yourself with ppa-purge too
[10:56] <slinnky> that's how you take back your system
[10:56] <hachre> yeah I've read about it on the side already for a bit, thanks slinnky :) very useful
[11:20] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:39] <susundbe1g> Hi BluesKaj
[11:39] <BluesKaj> hi susundbe1g
[13:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[13:57] <ShapeShifter499> I feel like updating, "update-manager -d"   sounds good?
[13:57] <ShapeShifter499> currently on 12.10
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> .04 versions are LTS versions correct?
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> while .10 versions are STS?
[13:59] <Stanley00> !lts | ShapeShifter499
[13:59] <smartboyhw> ShapeShifter499, not exactly.
[13:59] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: the next lts is 14.04
[13:59] <smartboyhw> 13.04 is NOT an LTS, IIRC
[13:59] <ShapeShifter499> oh
[14:00] <smartboyhw> Only .04 LTSes per two years is LTS
[14:00] <smartboyhw> And this one isn't
[14:00] <smartboyhw> 12.04 -> 14.04 -> 16.04 is the LTS path
[14:00] <ShapeShifter499> so next two releases are going to STS
[14:00] <ShapeShifter499> STS (short term support)
[14:00] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: yes
[14:01] <ShapeShifter499> whatever happened to better wine integration?
[14:02] <Stanley00> ShapeShifter499: I dont use wine, so dont know.
[14:03] <ShapeShifter499> I frankly want a wine with USB and iTunes support, that would allow me to completely drop windows for good
[14:04] <ShapeShifter499> vbox currently is a hassle to use trying to update an iPhone :/
[14:04] <ShapeShifter499> anyways, "update-manager -d" should get me on my way to 13.04 correct?
[14:05] <Pici> yep.
[14:05] <ShapeShifter499> super, updating just as soon as my google music library re-syncs itself
[14:06] <johnjohn101> i've had good luck with 13.04.  it's a pretty good release though the last of it's kind as ubuntu pivots.
[14:07] <ShapeShifter499> johnjohn101, what do you mean?
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> I heard ubuntu may drop X11, this true?
[14:09] <ShapeShifter499> if so what does it mean for X11 apps?
[14:09] <Stanley00> yep, but not before 14.04
[14:09] <Dark_light> ShapeShifter499: everyone will in the not so distant future wayland will take it's place or in the case of ubuntu mir
[14:09] <Dark_light> if it ever sees the light
[14:11] <Dark_light> Honestly I doubt it'll take only one year
[14:12] <johnjohn101> ShapeShifter499:  moving to Qt
[14:12] <Dark_light> that does not depend on X11 though
[14:12] <Dark_light> that's moving away from gtk
[14:13] <johnjohn101> isnt' that a huge shift though?
[14:13] <Dark_light> yes and now it is but not nearly as huge as changing display server
[14:13] <johnjohn101> so unity will be composited only to Mir?
[14:14] <Dark_light> I guess so
[14:14] <Dark_light> mir still has to see the light
[14:14] <Dark_light> and nothing is set in stone
[14:14] <johnjohn101> gnome 3.10 is supposed to be the first for wayland.  wonder how that will fly.
[14:15] <Dark_light> that's one of the reason why I'm not so sure mir we'll ever see the light of the day
[14:15] <Dark_light> there's a rason why gnu/linux has like 20 window managers and desktop enviroments but only one kernel and one display server
[14:16] <johnjohn101> that makes a lot of sense
[14:16] <Dark_light> kde has already stated that, at least for now, it has no plans to officially support mir whatsover
[14:16] <johnjohn101> have they even announced any plans for wayland?
[14:17] <Dark_light> who?
[14:17] <Dark_light> kde?
[14:17] <johnjohn101> kde
[14:17] <Dark_light> they are actively making the necessary changes to support it
[14:17] <ShapeShifter499> from what I read, wayland and mir will support X11 legacy, so KDE should still work no matter what version its on correct?
[14:19] <Dark_light> well I'm not sure about that I think it'll be able to run applications designed for X11 but a whole DE I don't think so
[14:19]  * Dark_light is not quite sure if his last message got through because his wireless died
[14:19] <ShapeShifter499> Dark_light, last message:  <Dark_light> well I'm not sure about that I think it'll be able to run applications designed for X11 but a whole DE I don't think so
[14:20] <Dark_light> yep
[14:20] <Dark_light> thank you :-)
[14:20] <Dark_light> wayland has a completely different design compared to X11 so supporting applications is one thing but supporting a wm/de designede for x11 is impossible
[14:21] <ShapeShifter499> Dark_light, somehow I feel like the support for X11 apps in wayland and mir will be like WINE's support for Windows apps
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> never quite being 100%
[14:22] <ShapeShifter499> and spotty support
[14:22] <Dark_light>  well that wont' affect many of them though
[14:23] <Dark_light> it's not like applications depend directly on the display server
[14:23] <Dark_light> they depen on the library gtk, or qt that has been used to design them
[14:23] <Dark_light> from what I know at least
[14:24] <Dark_light> so that shouldn't be much of an issue
[14:24] <Dark_light> plus I think you should be able to run an X11 session in wayland
[14:33] <ShapeShifter499> oh I see
[14:37] <dakira> so.. am I the only one who loves nautilus new style, but hates how it is missing all those features?
[14:38] <dakira> The fact that find-as-you-type navigation has been replaced with search totally drives me nuts. It works really really bad with large filesets or remote connections.
[14:44] <Tribaal> dakira: +1
[14:45] <Tribaal> find as you type was great
[15:16] <johnjohn101> should be an interesting year in the linux world regardless.  there is plenty of work to do
[15:23] <genii-around> It's always an interesting year in the linux world.
[16:07] <charliepurple> I'm not sure if I'm dealing with a bug or not, but apt-get won't finish updating the kernel, I get this error: Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp  linux-image-powerpc-smp
[16:08] <hggdh> charliepurple: look at /var/log/apt/term.log to zero in what error(s) was(were) found.
[16:08] <charliepurple> I had to boot into "old" today because of the same install failure from yesterday, I literally get nothing on boot.
[16:08] <charliepurple> okay - will do, thanks hggdh
[16:09] <charliepurple> not sure how this will format, but here goes:
[16:09] <charliepurple> Log started: 2013-04-16  11:33:44 Setting up linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp (3.8.0-8.14) ... Running depmod. update-initramfs: deferring update (hook will be called later) The link /boot/initrd.img is a dangling linkto /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp initrd.img.old is not a symlink, not clobbering rm initrd.img.14291 at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-3.8.0-8-powerpc-smp.postinst line 534. Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
[16:09] <charliepurple> also, it said not enough room on /boot, but I've got 40g available
[16:09] <hggdh> ah
[16:10] <hggdh> charliepurple: /boot may be a different filesystem
[16:11] <hggdh> and, most probably *this* (not enough space) was the reason for the failure
[16:11]  * hggdh goes for a lunch
[16:12] <charliepurple> Okay, I'm not sure how to work with that?
[16:13] <hggdh> charliepurple: well, if /boot is indeed a different FS, you will have to (1) extend it, and/or (2) clean up some space (by, for example, apt-get purge older kernels)
[16:13] <hggdh> charliepurple: of course, if apt-get purge, make sure to leave the current working kernel
[16:13] <hggdh> now it *is* lunch time ;-)
[16:14] <charliepurple> Okay, have a good lunch. I'll look into it.
[16:17] <wilee-nilee> charliepurple, As a heads up out of stock kernels are not necessarily supported.
[16:18] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, out of stock kernels? Are they on backorder?
[16:19] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, lol, no people come on asking for support for kernels that are not part of normal updates, and can wait a long time for help is all.
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, you mean custom kernels?
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> yes
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, ah ok
[16:20] <tgm4883> wilee-nilee, I don't think I've ever heard them called out of stock kernels before
[16:20] <charliepurple> I'm just working with whatever comes standard with 13.04 ppc
[16:21] <tgm4883> theres a PPC version of 13.04?
[16:21] <charliepurple> yep
[16:21] <wilee-nilee> tgm4883, It is early here not enough caffeine yet, and my walnut sized brain is in standby. ;)
[16:22] <charliepurple> Every time is early enough for caffiene!
[16:25] <johnjohn101> what is the usual issue with custom kernels?  kernel modules?
[16:26] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, Can you make your question more vague please? ')
[16:30] <johnjohn101> wilee-nilee:  just trying to figure out what types of problems folks run into with running a kernel that isnt' stock.  mostly curiosity as I will probably never do something like that.
[16:32] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, Anything is possible really, no real standard set of problems, could be any number of variables or outliers.
[16:33] <johnjohn101> yeah that type of stuff has to be almost impossible to support.
[16:44] <FunnyLookinHat> So - I'm unable to get Rhythmbox to play mp3 streams...  and it's not trying to find a plugin or anything...  is this a bug?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, Have you installed the restricted-extras for the desktop you are running?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> restricted*
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, yeah I have
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:48] <FunnyLookinHat> And I've verified that all of the streams work with VLC.  But they don't in both RB and Video Player ( obvs. gstreamer issue )
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, Are these your own choices or part of rhythmboxs apps?
[16:49] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, My own - here's the playlist I'm testing: https://gist.github.com/funnylookinhat/5396707/raw/671b062b0879a0b940d4160f26c6f09e5f8f9678/code_music.pls
[16:49] <FunnyLookinHat> They're all just mp3 streams.
[16:50] <FunnyLookinHat> Ah bugger - found a bug for it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gstreamer1.0/+bug/1139760
[16:51] <FunnyLookinHat> confirmed & no fix  :-P
[16:52] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, I added this one to radio and it works. http://slacker.cvgm.net:8000/cvgm128  I had to wait a second for it to start working is all.
[16:53] <FunnyLookinHat> wilee-nilee, And you're on Raring amd64 w/ ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> That one won't work in my setup...  hmmm
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> It works in Banshee though...
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> juts not RB
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> FunnyLookinHat, No precise but rhythbox build 2.97 same I would suspect.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Oh no
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> This is a 13.04 issue.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Precise works great.
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> And they changed gstreamer in between then I believe
[16:55] <FunnyLookinHat> Are you on 0.10 or 1.0 ?
[16:55] <_Bauer> How do I get to places like System->Administration->Users and Groups in Unity's 13.04?
[16:57] <johnjohn101> you might want to try vlc for the mp3 stream and see what happens as well.
[16:58] <johnjohn101> i usually use cvlc at the command line, in that i have a script that kills the station after an hour or so, so that I can go to sleep.
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> johnjohn101, They work in VLC
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> already said that  :)
[17:02] <FunnyLookinHat> This is clearly a RB issue - since Banshee works
[17:03] <tgm4883> _Bauer, click the gear in the upper right corner, and select system settings
[17:45] <johnjohn101> FunnyLookinHat: sorry, I need to read the posts more carefully.
[17:46] <_Bauer> tgm4883:  this place has no Groups, only Users...
[17:47] <tgm4883> _Bauer, yea, IDK about groups.
[18:41] <jnoz> I'm running Ubuntu raring (13.04) and I would like to install the latest stable version of enlightenment. There doesn't seem to be a package. How should I best proceed?
[18:49] <Pici> jnoz: e17?
[18:50] <jnoz> Pici: Enlightenment <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:51] <jnoz> Pici: the package in raring is "Version: 0.16.999.70492-2
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> the ppa is not not at raring yet https://launchpad.net/~efl/+archive/trunk
[18:53] <jnoz> so how do I do it?
[18:57] <jnoz> should I just install it from tarballs?
[18:57] <jnoz> will that break anything?
[18:58] <_Bauer> ok.. I created a user and group called wineuser, tried with/without setting user's password. however when I do something like
[18:58] <_Bauer> sg wineuser, I get prompted for password, and I get error crypt: Invalid argument
[18:59] <_Bauer> no matter which one I try
[18:59] <_Bauer> any ideas?
[19:00] <_Bauer> could it be 13.04 specific issue?
[19:25] <moppers> hi, i was askign about the status of 'scroll to switch tasks' in raring
[19:25] <moppers> it doesn't appear to work in the daily build
[19:25] <Guest91166> hola! i have trouble updating.  tried many different servers with no luck. Error: http://pastebin.com/zBhmkB38
[19:28] <Guest91166> it is a clean install
[19:29] <jacklk> When is 13.04 out?!
[19:30] <Levanth> Hi is this the right channel for 13.04 problems with xampp?
[19:37] <jacklk> Levanth: yes, just ask
[19:38] <Levanth> Okay my problem is: I just installed xampp, copied the lampp folder to /opt/ and when I try to run xampp in the terminal I got one error with the mysql service
[19:39] <jacklk> Levanth: What is the error?
[19:41] <Levanth> jacklk the exact error is "XAMPP: MySQL konnte nicht gestartet werden!" its german and means Mysql couldnt start, I looked in the error log in /opt/lampp/var/mysql  and it says /opt/lampp/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/plugin.frm' (errno: 13)
[19:41] <Levanth> jacklk but I looked there as su and the file was there
[19:42] <bekks> Levanth: I' not use LAMP, but install mysql, apache, etc. using the package management system.
[19:42] <jacklk> Levanth: Is mysql-server and mysql-core installed?
[19:43] <bekks> jacklk: HE is using LAMP, that has nothing to do with the packages from the repos.
[19:44] <Levanth> jacklk I could not find something with mysql to run as command
[19:44] <jacklk> LAMP or not, you still should be able to run mysql?
[19:45] <bekks> The LAMP config just doesnt find a file - whatever happened there, it has nothing to do with the packages from the repos.
[19:45] <jacklk> it could do, as the file it is looking for may not be installed under a package
[19:45] <bean> wtf is "The LAMP config"
[19:46] <bekks> bean: The config for LAMP and its components.
[19:46] <bean> ... lol
[19:46] <bekks> LAMP is a prebuilt software package.
[19:46] <bekks> Thats why it is installed at /opt/lamp/ ...
[19:46] <bean> jesus, why
[19:46] <bekks> Dont ask me, ask the author :P
[19:47] <bean> why not just install apache, mysql, and php
[19:47] <bean> like, it really doesn't get any more simple than that
[19:47] <jacklk> bean: exactly
[19:47] <bekks> Thats what I told Levanth already.
[19:47] <jacklk> Which makes LAMP pointless
[19:47] <bean> anything that doesn't use the package manager and puts its own s*** in /opt/ is pretty bad, imo
[19:48] <jacklk> Levanth: Are you sure you have to use LAMP? Just do apt-get install apache2 php5-mysql mysql-server php5 and boom you have a wroking server?
[19:49] <Levanth> because I dont know what I have to configure there, I am rather new to the whole server thing and a friend of mine just installed lampp the same way and it worked so I was curious why it doesnt worked for me (he also uses 13.04)
[19:49] <Pici> LAMP a term for a linux server with mysql and php, its not necessarily xampp.
[19:49] <bean> oh, we're talking about XAMPP, why the hell would you use that
[19:49] <jacklk> Levanth: you don't really have to do any configuration, no more than you do with LAMP
[19:50] <Pici> !xampp
[19:50] <jacklk> you just need those 4 packages and it all works together
[19:50] <Levanth> jacklk so I should use apache2, mysql-core, proftpd and php5 ?
[19:51] <jacklk> Levanth: yes, and also php5-mysql
[19:51] <jacklk> Levanth: then your website files go in /var/www, still runs on localhost, etc
[19:51] <Levanth> and then I start those separate or can I write a little script for that?
[19:51] <jacklk> and it all should work -- you don't need to do any config unless you want to
[19:52] <jacklk> Levanth: this isn't LAMP, it should all start and work automatically as soon as you install
[19:52] <bean> god, XAMPP is just as bad as webmin to me
[19:52] <bean> just
[19:52] <bean> gross.
[19:53] <Levanth> then I'll try this, thanks for the help here
[19:53] <jacklk> Levanth: yeah.. you should have no problems at all
[19:57] <melkor> My microphone doesn't work, and I'm looking for similar bugs.
[19:57] <Guest91166> bump
[19:57] <bean> Guest91166: "bump" does nothing here
[19:58] <Guest91166> other than maybe getting some attention
[19:58] <Guest91166> :)
[19:58] <johnjohn101> how is XAMPP different than LAMP?
[19:58] <bean> XAMPP is its own ghetto package
[19:58] <bean> lamp is installed w/ packages
[19:59] <bean> Guest91166: can you "ping archive.canonical.com"
[19:59] <johnjohn101> thanks bean
[20:01] <Guest91166> seem like it works fine, but does not: "ping archive.canonical.com" ever stop?
[20:01] <melkor> ping doesn't stop.
[20:02] <Guest91166> over 100 requests with 80-100ms response time
[20:02] <Guest91166> each
[20:02] <Guest91166> how do i stop it?
[20:02] <bean> control-c
[20:03] <bean> Guest91166: are you, by chance, behind a proxy?
[20:03] <Guest91166> dont know
[20:03] <Guest91166> i use a mobile modem i connect through wireless
[20:04] <bean> Guest91166: hrmmm... I would wait to upgrade then...
[20:04] <Guest91166> to late :P
[20:04] <Guest91166> why would that be a problem?
[20:04] <Shizuo> Omg sad channel
[20:05] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[20:05] <Shizuo> hoi
[20:06] <jnoz> where and who can I ask for a specific package to be updated? (e17 in raring)?
[20:06] <ShapeShifter499> update-manager -d        isn't giving me the option to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[20:06] <ShapeShifter499> what am I doing wrong?
[20:08] <Shizuo> Hi kieppie
[20:08] <kieppie> hi guys
[20:08] <Shizuo> Are you sad?
[20:08] <ShapeShifter499> oh hang on after it updated all the currently installed packages it gave me the option to upgrade to 13.04
[20:08] <kieppie> no - why?
[20:08] <ShapeShifter499> sweet
[20:08] <kieppie> what noteworthy is new & to be expected in the new 13.04 release?
[20:08] <Shizuo> Ponies, mostly
[20:08] <alankila> gnome 3 :-p
[20:08] <kieppie> pooping rainbows?
[20:09] <alankila> I mean the ubuntu-gnome-desktop. I'm using it currently.
[20:10] <kieppie> I've used both gnome-desktop3 & unity - can't say I really prefer the one other the other. much the sameness @ both
[20:10]  * johnjohn101 prefers unity
[20:11] <kieppie> don't dislike them - nor do I like them overly much
[20:11] <ShapeShifter499> I should be fine using sources and packages made for 12.10 on 13.04 right?
[20:11] <kieppie> ShapeShifter499 - you chould if you enable the backport repo
[20:11] <Guest91166> bean: is there a fix that i can try?
[20:12] <kieppie> *in theory*
[20:12] <ShapeShifter499> I have that already enabled
[20:12] <kieppie> !13.04
[20:12] <ShapeShifter499> I thought the release notes said the 24th?
[20:12] <Guest91166> ubuttu: this is #ubuntu+1 :D
[20:13] <kieppie> what's to be expected in the new release? anything noteworthy? I'm a little exited re the prospect for full multi-platform integration, but not sure if it'll be ready @ this release yet
[20:15] <ShapeShifter499> 2181 package updates/installs  damn
[20:15] <bean> Guest91166: "sudo apt-get update"
[20:15] <bean> Guest91166: is that what fails?
[20:15] <Guest91166> bean: yes
[20:15] <ShapeShifter499> this maybe a while
[20:15]  * ShapeShifter499 sips coffee
[20:16] <kieppie> `apt-get -y update && apt-get -y upgrade && apt-get -y dist-upgrade && do-release-upgrade`
[20:16] <Guest91166> bean: "&& upgrade" that is
[20:17] <bean> Guest91166: can you open http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg in a browser?
[20:17] <Guest91166> yes
[20:18] <johnjohn101> when are we supposed to get unity 7?
[20:18] <bean> Guest91166: what is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[20:19] <Guest91166> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:19] <Guest91166> and: resolvconf(8)
[20:20] <johnjohn101> ok, they changed the dash icon swirly direction...seriously?
[20:21] <bean> Guest91166: okay, what is the full contents....
[20:22] <Guest91166> other tha those two listings. nothing other than # comments
[20:22] <bean> oh
[20:22] <bean> wait
[20:22] <bean> resolveconf(8) is a line in there?
[20:22] <Guest91166> yes
[20:22] <bean> thats not right
[20:23] <Guest91166> what is it supposed to be?
[20:23] <Guest91166> and how to edit
[20:23] <bean> likely just <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:23] <bean> what is the output of "dig +short @<IP_ADDRESS> archive.canonical.com"
[20:24] <Guest91166> two ip adresses
[20:24] <bean> ok, that is correct.
[20:24] <Guest91166> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:25] <bean> have you tried rebooting since you started this?
[20:25] <Guest91166> yes, several times
[20:25] <bean> i can't even really find anything with the same error as you out there
[20:25] <bean> and your browser doesn't use a proxy?
[20:25] <Guest91166> nope
[20:26] <Guest91166> unless it is set so automatically
[20:27] <bean> hmm, maybe try a different server in your software sources
[20:27] <Guest91166> did that, many different servers.
[20:28] <Guest91166> i just did a new update upgrade try and now more similiar errors: http://pastebin.com/k1cZMsKs
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Post al the text in a pastebin of sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[20:32] <bean> Guest91166: have you done anything with nsswitch?
[20:32] <bean> can you pastebin the output of /etc/nsswitch.conf
[20:33] <Guest91166> no changes to nsswitch. do net even know what it is
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> there are gpg key problems at times
[20:33] <bean> this doesn't look like a key problem
[20:33] <Guest91166> i shal give you the pastes you asked for
[20:33] <bean> kk
[20:35] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/Kk8YJSJF
[20:35] <bean> I think your /etc/nsswitch.conf is wrong
[20:36] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/edPqyAX3
[20:36] <bean> hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:36] <bean> should be
[20:36] <bean> hosts:          files dns mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] mdns4
[20:39] <FernandoMiguel> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[20:39] <FernandoMiguel> I knew I should have hold longer
[20:39] <bean> Guest91166: you need to change /etc/nsswitch.conf
[20:39] <bean> probably
[20:39] <bean> but those warning are actually no big deal
[20:40] <bean> i'd continue on w/o them
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> mine is the same as theirs hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4
[20:41] <Guest91166> bean: just changed it to what you said. but same error
[20:41] <Guest91166> changed it back
[20:42] <jnoz> is anyone here successfully using "connman" for wireless networking on Ubuntu 13.04?
[20:46] <Guest91166> bean: other ideas?
[20:47] <bean> Guest91166: i'd just ignore the errors for now, they're just signing keys it looks like
[20:48] <Guest91166> ok, but will it be sorted out by it self or do i have to download 13.04 when it is officially ready?
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, I think you just need to load that missing key to be honest try sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[20:48] <Guest91166> by it self: i mean by upgrades
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> then reload any shown with sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "key here"
[20:51] <Guest91166> no luck: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, You have had an error though with key or key's there is a command to automatically reload all, I forget it though, but a look on the web will probably find it, that is how I helped another user a while back.
[21:01] <Guest91166> bean: ignore for now. ok, but will it resolve?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> I would not ignore it personally it can easily be fixed.
[21:05] <Guest91166> how?
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/automatically-import-all-missing.html
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> I think this should work raring is in the ppa
[21:07] <Guest91166> but why should there be missing keys in a fresh install?
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, IT happens I have seen it happen and had it happen, it is not a perfect world. ;)
[21:09] <Guest91166> hmmm, ok :)
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> frustrating though for sure. ;)
[21:11] <Guest91166> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/nilarimogard/webupd8/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'ppa.launchpad.net:http' (-11 - System error)
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, NOt sure if this is the exact fix though the ppa says for ppa keys, however it shows that keys can be auto loaded, so it may take a search for that command I wish I could find it.
[21:12] <Guest91166> mhmmm
[21:14] <Guest91166> the nilarimogard key was impoerte successfully
[21:22] <Guest91166> wilee-nilee: i think all the keys are there and correct. what does the -11 system error mean?: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-11 - System error)
[21:24] <Guest91166> i find it strang that i do not get any matches googling the error
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Are you getting the hexadecimal # such as  9BDB3D89CE49EC21  ?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> as an example
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, see post 4 here as wel, bad keys may need to be removes to get this fixed as well rather then just adding correct keys, read the whole link as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/127326/how-to-fix-missing-gpg-keys
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> removed*
[21:46] <Guest91166> wilee-nilee: no hex
[21:47] <Guest91166> http://pastebin.com/edPqyAX3
[21:48] <Guest91166> it does not complain about missing key. it complains about something wicked :)
[21:49] <Guest91166> i give up for tonight
[21:50] <Guest91166> thanks a lot for the help and time :D
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, Save this actionparsnip is one of the best helpers on the IRC see post.#4 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/194077
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> Guest91166, here in post 1 is the earlier script by actionparsnip in a wget I just ran it with no errors. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/223769


[00:00] <zzecool> lol
[00:01] <zzecool> Actually precise feel more stable and HELL ALOT  faster than oneiric
[00:01] <zzecool> all this using unity
[00:02] <zzecool> There is a huge improvement on Unity  , faster smoother  more features etc
[00:02] <GTRsdk> wait 2 months and see what it is like
[00:02] <zzecool> im allrdy running precise
[00:03] <zzecool> so i didnt wait :)
[00:03] <zzecool> But im stuck to alpha 1 cause this update problem
[00:03] <zzecool> probably by tommorow it gonna be fixed
[00:03] <zzecool> :)
[00:03] <zzecool> and a normal update will push me to alpha 2 +
[00:06] <zzecool> i feel confident cause even Mark Shuttleworth  said that he upgraded he main laptop to precise :)     So thing must Go fine or they will have to fight with him lol  ;p
[00:06] <zzecool> his*
[00:06] <zzecool> things*
[00:06] <zzecool> ohh evil typos ;p
[00:17] <FernandoMiguel> nite folks
[01:16] <fishscene> I'd like to set up an LTSP server for my environment here. In the past, I had a server (10.04LTS) and I found a package that allowed me to customize the profile (desktop icons, launchers, desktop background, etc..) for new users who logged in. I have since forgotten the name of this package, but I was wondering if 12.04 would include a tool such as that.
[01:16] <fishscene> That ability is critical for me to successfully set up the server.
[01:54] <blizzow> Anyone here now how to make ubuntu boot faster without using a DHCP address?
[02:00] <histo> blizzow: that should not have anything to do with boot speed
[02:00] <blizzow> I mean without forcing a static IP address.
[02:01] <histo> blizzow: don't have it configure the network then
[02:01] <blizzow> I keep getting this message saying it's waiting for the network configuration to boot, and then another that says waiting another 60 seconds to boot.  It pretty much negates having a fast booting ssd.
[02:01] <blizzow> I don't want to have to config the network everytime I log in.
[02:02] <blizzow> I just want the DHCP address to come a little later.
[02:02] <blizzow> Without holding the whole laptop up.
[02:03] <histo> blizzow: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:08] <blizzow> precise
[04:01] <Thermionix> Just trying out 12.04 server alpha 2 - Upon boot terminal tty7 is just showing a flashing cursor. I can ctrl alt <X> to change to different terminal and login, ssh login also works fine. Whats going on with tty7?
[04:03] <pangolin> try 8
[04:11] <Thermionix> tty1-6 work, was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it
[04:13] <GTRsdk> I think tty7 is supposed to be where the GUI stuff is supposed to be
[04:13] <trism> Thermionix: if it is ubuntu server, there should only be 1-6, started by /etc/init/tty[1-6].conf
[04:13] <snadge> anyone know how to disable lightdm from running pulseaudio for a specific session?
[04:14] <Thermionix> is booting to tty7 with only ssh added to server :/
[04:14] <snadge> it interferes with the audio latency when running xbmc.. i had a dedicated xbmc login from my lightdm menu
[04:14] <snadge> but i would like to continue to use pulseaudio when logging in to a normal session
[04:14] <trism> Thermionix: oh, it is booting to tty7, don't know then
[04:17] <snadge> i dont know enough about how xsessions and pulseaudio works :/
[04:19] <snadge> theres no lightdm channel either :|
[07:14] <psypher246> o all
[07:14] <psypher246> hello all
[07:14] <psypher246> anyone here using thunderbird?
[07:16] <GTRsdk> is it broken?
[07:17] <psypher246> in a way, since the latest updates the font colour choice is so bad you cant read the menu buttons or any of the open emails in open tabs
[07:17] <psypher246> so i would like to know if thats just me or anyone else so I can log a bug
[07:20] <psypher246> GTRsdk: do you have the issue? is the getmail, write, address book and tag font colour a really similar grey that then menu and unity panel colour?
[07:23] <Ben64> a lot of the theming is all wonky
[07:25] <psypher246> ok so it's a known issue?
[07:29] <Ben64> i know about it, but i don't matter
[07:29] <GTRsdk> woah... I don't use my Ubuntu computers for Thunderbird, but that's pretty bad. Not to say that I haven't in the past and have had issues with it, but it was mostly printing and enigmail
[07:30] <Ben64> most of the themes for me have unreadable menus and stuff
[07:30] <Ben64> only one that works is way way too orange :(
[07:30] <Ben64> its all non-customizable too
[07:30] <psypher246> Ben64: do u know if there is a bug logged for it?
[07:30] <Ben64> dunno
[07:30] <Ben64> doesn't seem like a bug as much as a bad design
[07:31] <GTRsdk> at least it feels like the good old times of 9.04... but wait it shouldn't do that, shoudl it?
[07:31] <Ben64> i'm on 10.04 on my main computer, and I can adjust the colors of any element easily
[07:31] <Ben64> 12.04 has went backwards in that respect
[07:33] <Ben64> http://www.ben64.com/custom1004.jpg
[08:28] <iceroot> remove-all-packages fixed?
[08:37] <TheYsNoi> has someone here tested the alpha 2 release?
[09:19] <Fudge> oh its out now is it
[10:36] <xanax`> hello
[10:42] <tegra> hi
[10:52] <tegra> alpha 2 using kernel 3.2.0 not kernel 3.2.2
[10:52] <tegra> :(
[11:24] <nanobolic_> just upgrading to alpha 2 is there anything that really needs testing off the top of anyones head?
[11:28] <ikonia> read the bug reports
[12:09] <Daekdroom> It took me a little time to notice that right-click menus are now white in Ambiance.
[12:11] <jokerdino> Daekdroom: yeah i noticed it too.
[12:12] <jokerdino> it is kinda weight.
[12:12] <jokerdino> *weird not weight. (not sure what i was thinking when i typed that one)
[14:19] <rigved> hi everyone. i am running precise with the latest updates. after the last update, unity 3d was removed (after i did apt-get autoremove and it removed ubuntu-desktop). now i only have gnome 3, classic and unity 2d.
[14:20] <rigved> to get back unity 3d, what do i need to install?
[14:20] <rigved> ubuntu-desktop package or something else?
[14:21] <rigved> i am getting an error when i try to install ubuntu-desktop. it says that it depends on unity but it is not going to be installed.
[14:23] <rigved> i am guessing that i have partial updates installed. i mean, i must have updated before all the required dependencies had been updated in the archives. is this correct? i like unity 3d and i want it, though gnome 3 is also passable.
[15:27] <zzecool> hggdh: Everything fixed in The Repositories :)  Update went smooth
[15:31] <jcook_5xdata> I did a update today and after a reboot both my monitor have a dock. anyone else have this?
[15:33] <Daekdroom> jcook_5xdata, Unity was changed for multimonitor setups
[15:34] <jcook_5xdata> yuk I hope they do not keep like that. I can see the thought behind it, but it make it hard to work
[15:41] <jcook_5xdata> my mouse get stuck move to other screen
[15:42] <Daekdroom> jcook_5xdata, it's intentional
[15:43] <Daekdroom> and you can change the pressure necessary to reveal the launcher or to go to another screen in CCSM
[15:45] <e01> hello
[15:46] <e01> is it possible to get unity in pangolin to have such window list in unity launcher https://launchpadlibrarian.net/90787502/window-list.png
[15:58] <rocky> hrm i don't think i like the new unity launcher behaviour
[15:58] <rocky> is there anyway to configure it?
[15:58] <Stanley00> rocky: which one you dont like?
[16:00] <Stanley00> e01: if you want to go through windows of one app, you can use "ALT + `" ;)
[16:01] <rocky> Stanley00, well... the fact that i have to push against the side of my screen with my mouse cursor for like 2sec before the launcher appears (when i have a fullscreen window open)
[16:01] <Stanley00> e01: or simply click on the icon on the launchrt :D
[16:01] <rocky> plus... i have a dual monitor setup... and now the launcher is showing up on my second screen and it prevents me from going to my left screen (unless i move my mouse really fast)
[16:01] <e01> Stanley00: but is this implemented on pangolin or this screenshot is fake
[16:01] <rocky> preferably, the launcher on my second screen would show up on the right side
[16:02] <Stanley00> e01: I think it's some kinds of mock-up
[16:03] <e01> :(
[16:04] <Stanley00> rocky: hmm, I dont think it would be on the right side, the launcher will be on the left side for ever, I'm afraid.
[16:04] <Stanley00> rocky: why dont you set the launcher only on one screen?
[16:04] <rocky> Stanley00, i know that gnome is mostly less-config-is-better but this is one instance where the launcher really should be configurable
[16:05] <e01> so i was on way to give another try to unity but still unusable for me :(
[16:05] <rocky> Stanley00, how?
[16:06] <Stanley00> rocky: By display setting in control center
[16:06] <rocky> and there really shouldn't be any resistance with the mouse cursor when i move from my right screen to the left
[16:06] <Stanley00> rocky: yep
[16:07] <Stanley00> rocky: I used AMD control center to set that, not sure about dislay setting.
[16:07] <rocky> display setting in control panel only shows me my screens i have configured, there's no launcher setting there
[16:08] <rocky> this is an intel graphics chip
[16:09] <rocky> heh, alt-tab is showing me a duplicate of every chrome window i have open
[16:09] <Stanley00> rocky: hmm, just a min, I need to search something ;)
[16:10] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, I have the same problem as rocky. Intel GPU I do not see any option for that ether
[16:12] <rocky> lol the launcher is throwing a fit, it thinks i have two instances of every app running
[16:12] <rocky> probably because i have two launchers
[16:13] <jcook_5xdata> I really hope the create a option to turn off the second launcher or Ubuntu tweak does
[16:14] <Stanley00> hmm, it looks like we have to edit xorg.conf to use that option :-s
[16:20] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, you have a link?
[16:20] <Stanley00> rocky, jcook_5xdata: did you try Xinerama? it's said can use multi screen as a big one?
[16:21] <Stanley00> last post of this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1457931 says so
[16:21] <rocky> well i'm using standard gnome display configuration to make my two screens one big one
[16:22] <Stanley00> rocky: then it still shows up the launcher on the second screen?
[16:22] <rocky> yes
[16:23] <rocky> after using the new changes for the past 30min the current behaviour is terrible... i guess that's what i get for running an alpha ;)
[16:23] <jcook_5xdata> same here
[16:23] <rocky> it's ok... i get my ssd within the next few days and will just go back to oneric until beta ;)
[16:23] <Stanley00> rocky: I dont think it set as a big one monitor.
[16:24] <rocky> the reason i updated to precise is because i'm running a new laptop and i have to do kernel settings and such (that i was hoping was fixed with precise) to even boot up properly
[16:24] <rocky> Stanley00, if it weren't set to one big monitor i wouldn't be able to move windows from one display to the other
[16:24] <jcook_5xdata> Stanley00, I know mine is. It was fine till the update today
[16:26] <rocky> yeah what jcook_5xdata said
[16:26] <rocky> and i still have the problem of no audio :(
[16:26] <rocky> ever since upgrade to precise
[16:27] <jcook_5xdata> also I notice this i unity-team ppa I removed it because of this problem. They most of merge it last night. ooohhh well I guess I move to gnome till ubuntu tweak has an option
[16:28] <jcook_5xdata> does it show your sound card?
[16:28] <Stanley00> well, I must go now... bye bye
[16:29] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, I dount ubuntu tweak will have that, ubnity is a compiz plugin.
[16:29] <urlin2u> unity
[16:30] <jcook_5xdata> tweaks does do some stuff with compiz plugin
[16:30] <jcook_5xdata> or there alway CCMS
[16:31] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, yes and it may do what you want but I wouldn't hold your breath, but somebody or canonical will have a workaround.
[16:31] <urlin2u> keep a eye on the web for a fix is whatI would do.
[16:32] <rocky> jcook_5xdata, no... i've been goolging and a few people are reporting the same issue... what's happening is that in sound settings it's showing my hdmi output (which i don't use) but doesn't show my standard laptop speakers/audio
[16:32] <urlin2u> fix, hack you know. :)
[16:32] <jcook_5xdata> Yea i think your right. no biggie I like Unity over Gnome. I try this new thing if I cant stand move to gnome till the work around hits
[16:33] <jcook_5xdata> OMG or web8 will have something in a few days I am sure
[16:33] <urlin2u> rocky, distro upgrades can be problematic, especially to a development, personally I never go this route there are faster easier methods to upgrade and have all your stuff.
[16:34] <jcook_5xdata> or there alway KDE lol
[16:34] <urlin2u> jcook_5xdata, I was thinking of those two yeah.
[16:45] <rocky> urlin2u, yeah i was hoping precise would get more of my new hardware working but instead it got less lol ... so i'll probably be switching back on the weekend
[16:47] <urlin2u> rocky, to bad you can clone your OS so in the future you have an image clonezilla.org
[16:47] <rocky> urlin2u, yeah someone showed that to me right after i upgraded lol
[16:48] <rocky> but as i said here earlier, i have a new ssd coming and intended on reinstalling anyways
[16:48] <urlin2u> best thing since sliced bread.
[18:41] <blair> there's a typo in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for the bug ID for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"
[18:42] <blair> lists bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> Greetings
[18:55] <cousin_luigi> Are there known problems with Precise on Virtualbox?
[19:58] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[19:58] <FernandoMiguel> I told you
[19:59] <FernandoMiguel> no updates on fridays
[19:59] <FernandoMiguel> I seem to have lost themes
[20:01] <Daekdroom> It seems to me that I always dislike any changes made to Ambiance/Radiance.
[20:03] <FernandoMiguel> everyone does
[20:03] <FernandoMiguel> and we can't even change settings
[20:45] <zzecool> I found a bug that relies on a main lib  "libgtk-3-0"   and i dont know how to report this one on launchpad
[20:45] <zzecool> any help would be appreciated
[20:47] <nanobolic> is there a channel for the ubuntu hud? or unity team?
[20:47] <zzecool> i think there is for unity
[20:47] <zzecool> sec
[20:48] <zzecool> unity3d has the most users
[20:48] <zzecool> 179 users right now
[20:48] <nanobolic> zzecool, so #unity3d
[20:48] <zzecool>  join #unity3d
[20:48] <zzecool> yes
[20:49] <zzecool> you may find help
[20:49] <nanobolic> zzecool, that mate
[20:49] <zzecool> im looking for help here too
[20:49] <zzecool> :)
[20:49] <zzecool> npo
[20:49] <zzecool> np
[21:08] <nhaines> nanobolic, zzecool try #ubuntu-unity
[22:40] <blair> an incorrect bug ID is listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha2 for "Some systems with nVidia hardware are seeing a kernel NULL pointer dereference"; s bug ID 92440, but that's from 2007
[22:44] <trism> blair: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/924400 seems to just be missing a 0
[22:45] <blair> trism, thanks, but how to let someone know to fix it
[22:48] <astraljava> blair: Fixed. In the future, you can do it yourself, it's a wiki after all.
[22:48] <blair> astraljava, right, the thought should have occurred to me (doh)
[22:49] <astraljava> :)
[22:49] <blair> figured it was an official release document
[22:49] <astraljava> Official or not, mistakes can happen.
[22:50] <astraljava> The relevant people are notified of the changes anyway, so they could fix it back if it was erroneous.
[23:36] <rocky> any fixes been done to the launcher since the updates this morning?
[23:36] <rocky> launcher stuff is driving me nuts
[23:48] <zzecool> rocky: what do you mean ?
[23:48] <zzecool> rocky: describe me your problem
[23:49] <rocky> well last update i did forces another launcher onto my second display ... and there is a heavy resistance when i try moving my mouse cursor from my right display to my left display (they're acting as one big screen as setup by the standard gnome display settings)
[23:49] <rocky> i wouldn't mind the second launcher *if* it were on the right of my right screen
[23:49] <rocky> but having it on the left of my right screen is just irritating
[23:49] <zzecool> yes
[23:49] <zzecool> this is gonna be permanent
[23:49] <zzecool> its their new multimonitor support
[23:50] <zzecool> about reistance
[23:50] <zzecool> i can help you
[23:50] <zzecool> resistance*
[23:50] <zzecool> to you have CCSM installed
[23:50] <zzecool> ?
[23:50] <zzecool> do*
[23:50] <zzecool> ?
[23:51] <zzecool> rocky:  ?
[23:53] <rocky> sorry no, what's ccsm?
[23:53] <zzecool> its the compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:53] <rocky> oh ok
[23:53] <zzecool> a tool that can config all the compiz plugins
[23:53] <zzecool> do you have any experience with this ?
[23:54] <rocky> yeah a little
[23:54] <rocky> installed it on other desktops a while back
[23:54] <zzecool> nice
[23:54] <zzecool> open it up
[23:54] <zzecool> and go to the unity plugin
[23:54] <zzecool> type unity on the search box if you want to be faster :)
[23:55] <zzecool> Tell me when you rdy
[23:55] <rocky> ready
[23:55] <zzecool> nice
[23:55] <zzecool> go to the 3rd tab called experimental
[23:56] <rocky> the tabs on the left you mean? i'm not seeing an experimental one
[23:57] <zzecool> are you on the unitu plugin ?
[23:57] <zzecool> unity*
[23:57] <zzecool> on the left are the categories we dont care we need them all
[23:58] <rocky> i just installed ccsm and ran it, i don't see anything about unity or experimental
[23:58] <zzecool> do you se on the top left   a search box with the title filter?
[23:58] <rocky> yep
[23:58] <zzecool> type uni
[23:58] <zzecool> in there or unity
[23:59] <rocky> got it
[23:59] <zzecool> this is just a filter for the plugins on the right side
[23:59] <zzecool> ok
[23:59] <zzecool> open unity plugin
[23:59] <rocky> yep i'm on it, and i'm on the experimental tab
[23:59] <zzecool> ok


[00:35] <python> هل فيه موقع مثل موقع بالعربى askubuntu.com
[14:03] <ashams> Menopia, dude, we're trying to meet on next Tuesday 7 pm @ Cilantro 3abbas, is that ok with you?
[14:44] <seiflotfy> hi ashams
[14:44] <seiflotfy> :D
[14:45] <ashams> seiflotfy, foSSdam :P
[14:45] <ashams> hi dude :-)
[14:59] <seiflotfy> how r u
[14:59] <ashams> fine man
[14:59] <ashams> u?
[14:59] <ashams> :)
[14:59] <seiflotfy> im ok
[14:59] <seiflotfy> had to do a lot of hacking
[14:59] <seiflotfy> wanna see something badass?
[14:59] <ashams> yep
[14:59] <ashams> sure
[14:59] <ashams> :)
[15:00] <ashams> plz
[15:00] <ashams> :D
[15:02] <seiflotfy> https://github.com/dawati/dawati-shell/blob/master/panels/applications/src/mnb-launcher-zg-utils.c
[15:02] <seiflotfy> :D
[15:03] <seiflotfy> i wont say more
[15:03] <seiflotfy> read the first part of the copyrights
[15:03] <seiflotfy> :P
[15:03] <ashams> ok, one sec :)
[15:07] <ashams> seiflotfy, that's gr8 :-)
[15:08] <seiflotfy> it is exciting
[15:08] <seiflotfy> :D
[15:10] <ashams> Congrats, keep the good work :D


[03:55] <saiarcot895> Does precise amd64 build the arch-dependent *and* arch-independent portions of a package?
[03:59] <wgrant> saiarcot895: No, Launchpad always builds the arch-independent packages on i386.
[04:01] <saiarcot895> wgrant: That didn't seem to happen on https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/chromium-dev/+build/5310554. It tried to build arch-indep stuff, but failed, since the dependencies weren't met. This, however, compiled successfully for Quantal amd64 and Raring amd64
[04:06] <wgrant> saiarcot895: dpkg-buildpackage before Ubuntu 12.10 always calls 'debian/rules build', as the separate build-arch/build-indep are relatively new.
[04:06] <wgrant> binary-arch/binary-indep have existed for a long time, but build-arch/build-indep are relatively new
[04:06] <wgrant> You can reproduce this failure on any Ubuntu 12.04 LTS system.
[04:07] <saiarcot895> wgrant: ah, ok, so I need to edit the rules file to adjust for this.


[05:40] <Siddharth> HI...I'm new to Linux using Lubuntu
[05:41] <Siddharth> I'm not sure why my etherned is not detected by the OS
[05:41] <Siddharth> I can thether on to a mobile device
[05:42] <Siddharth> when connecting to internet using ethernet..it says server not found
[05:43] <Siddharth> I can ping the modem using LXterminal but not beyond
[05:48] <Siddharth> Unable to connect ethernet connection on Lubuntu
[05:48] <lynorian> Siddharth, on the network appolet are you connected on the ethernet network?
[05:49] <Siddharth> it has got auto connection and wired connection(for thethering)
[05:50] <lynorian> To get therering to work did you change wired connetion to work for tethering?
[05:51] <Siddharth> nope...thether got recognized automatically on OS.....just had enable it on my mobile
[05:52] <Siddharth> ping for modem works sometimes
[05:52] <lynorian> have you tried creating a new ethernet connection on the applet
[05:53] <Siddharth> tried it once...but did not work...let me try it once more
[05:54] <Siddharth> what should be the device name? should i level it blank
[05:59] <Siddharth_> hard luck
[05:59] <Siddharth_> @Lynorian ....hard luck
[06:15] <Siddharth_> unable to connect using Realtek Ethernet PCI....able to connect via thethering...same with new browser as well...ping to modem works sometimes....creating a new connection on network applet has no success...installed network driver using synaptic...still no go...only thethering works
[06:34] <lynorian> Siddharth_, I had to go away from keyboard but wish I had a way to help you
[06:34] <lynorian> can you use lspic to show which realtek ethernet it is
[06:34] <lynorian> also do the lights light up?
[06:35] <Siddharth_> yup
[06:35] <lynorian> do you have a spare cable and have you tried another?
[06:36] <Siddharth_> windows on other partition runs good
[06:39] <Siddharth_> no spare cable


[06:43] <Zer0Byte> hi
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> one question
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> im performing a custom image of debian for MAAS
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> but i have a question
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> who is the responsable of setup the network configuration on the Operating system
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> is Curting during the installation stage
[06:44] <Zer0Byte> or cloud-init after the first boot from local disk?
[09:45] <mup> Bug #1767979 opened: [2.x] Curtin config doesn't output tmpfs and ramfs YAML storage layout <curtin:Confirmed> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1767979>
[11:38] <srihas> hi guys, is there a way in MAAS to add static route of type "post-up /sbin/route -nv add -net <IP_ADDRESS>/4 dev eth1.824"
[11:38] <srihas> without GW that is, a direct route
[14:01] <mup> Bug #1768034 opened: ESXi VMs can't PXE boot in EFI mode due to missing arch in DHCP configuration <dhcp> <efi> <esxi> <pxe> <uefi> <vmware> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768034>
[16:50] <mup> Bug #1768081 opened: [2.3.2] Node failed to be commissioned with bionic, looking for non-existing ifaces during dhcp unconfigured check <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768081>
[17:17] <mup> Bug #1768081 changed: [2.3.2] Node failed to be commissioned with bionic, looking for non-existing ifaces during dhcp unconfigured check <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768081>
[19:32] <[Kid]> how do you cancel a hardware test?
[19:32] <[Kid]> restart MAAS service?
[21:03] <mup> Bug #1768131 opened: RAM usage of Pod is not recognized as a constraint <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768131>
[21:06] <mup> Bug #1768131 changed: RAM usage of Pod is not recognized as a constraint <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768131>
[21:12] <mup> Bug #1768131 opened: RAM usage of Pod is not recognized as a constraint <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768131>
[23:30] <ananke> [Kid]: in theory you should be able to 'abort' an operation


[06:22] <yuriy> wow i _just_ found out konqueror had mouse gestures. byebye opera
[06:22] <yuriy> why aren't they enabled by default?
[07:01] <Jucato> because themouse gestures aren't just for Konqueror. so enabling mouse gestures enables it for all of KDE?
[07:01] <fdoving> even better? :)
[07:01] <fdoving> off to work. bye.
[07:01] <Jucato> bye fdoving
[07:01] <Jucato> yeah better, but not everyone knows how to use them... like me
[07:07] <nixternal> or me
[07:07] <Jucato> woot! I'm not the only weirdo :D
[07:07] <nixternal> haha
[07:08] <Jucato> although I imagine that if I ever get hooked on these gestures... I'll be waving my mouse around like a wand... :/
[07:08] <nixternal> lol
[07:09] <nixternal> I don't use the mouse much anyways
[07:09] <Jucato> you have a touchscreen!?! O.o
[07:09] <Jucato> :P
[07:09] <nixternal> terminal is where I tend to live
[07:09] <Jucato> figures :)
[07:11] <nixternal> Riddell: Toys, Graphics, Admin, and Multimedia built fine. Network built out, but on install it dies w/o --force-overwrite due to oxygen icons ;) Games, PIM, and Edu crash out during build. The other ones need to be created from scratch, but w/o having Games, PIM, and Edu, I can't really build the others due to depends
[08:07] <aman> help me
[08:16] <dinosaur-rus> hi friends :)
[09:16] <Riddell> nixternal: did you fix /usr/lib64 issue?
[09:32] <dadchicken> Hobbsee: Are you on the mailing lists team?
[09:33] <Hobbsee> dadchicken: the what now?
[09:33] <dadchicken> Hobbsee: We've got some folks being rather discourteous to others on the kubuntu-users list.
[09:34] <Hobbsee> dadchicken: fun...
[09:34] <Hobbsee> dadchicken: i'm not a moderator of it, no
[09:35] <dadchicken> Righto.
[09:36] <Riddell> dadchicken: what's up?
[09:37] <dadchicken> Oh, just some folks getting impolite with new folks, and cursing at me for asking them to be a little less hostile.
[09:37] <dadchicken> The usua.
[09:37] <dadchicken> l
[09:39] <dadchicken> Because evidently, suggesting that the threading issue may have been related to a bug rather than an intentional hijacking makes me an asshole.
[09:39] <Riddell> dadchicken: I've blocked that thread now
[09:40] <dadchicken> So many more better reasons to call me an asshole...
[09:41] <Hobbsee> Riddell: we're not leaving yet :P
[09:41] <Riddell> I don't know the spanish for "one more day"
[09:41] <Hobbsee> ahh
[09:42] <Riddell> jings, anyone not got a cold coming on today?
[09:44] <Hobbsee> hmm?
[09:46] <dadchicken> Solamente un da de restante en Espaa.
[09:46] <dadchicken> There you go Riddell
[09:51] <freeflying> Riddell: hi
[09:51] <freeflying> Riddell: can you sposor me an upload now
[09:52] <Hobbsee> freeflying: unlikely, we're at UDS - about to go into a session
[09:52] <freeflying> Hobbsee: I see
[02:58] <Riddell> mhb: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-restricted-manager updated
[03:08] <Hobbsee> question 6427
[03:12] <Hobbsee> bug 1
[03:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
[03:22] <Riddell> Hobbsee: how is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-gutsy-council doing?
[03:22] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ENOWIFIOUTSIDE.
[03:22] <Hobbsee> er, -E...
[03:22] <Riddell> and yet IRC continues to work :)
[03:22] <Hobbsee> it exists in some form, though
[03:23] <Hobbsee> yes, i'm not outside now :)
[03:25] <yuriy> "Pending Approval (Needs guidance)" on the guidance spec amuses me
[03:25] <yuriy> morning
[03:26] <Riddell> it's even more amusing on the displayconfig-gtk spec
[03:34] <rbrunhuber> Hello all
[03:34] <dadchicken> howdy
[03:35] <nixternal> Riddell: if fixed that issue by building on amd64
[03:36] <nixternal> s/if/I
[03:36] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it exists now in a non-spec type spec.
[03:44] <rbrunhuber> Are there just few new gutsy packages or do i have a "blocker" app which hinders upgrades?
[03:44] <Hobbsee> you can upgrade
[03:44] <Hobbsee> not a great idea, though
[03:45] <hunger> Hobbsee: Yes, but there are not many packages to update yet:-(
[03:45] <hunger> Hobbsee: What will break if I upgrade? (or better: once I reboot;-)
[03:45] <rbrunhuber> I always upgraded when the new repos are open I like to keep track of the progress :-)
[03:46] <hunger> rbrunhuber: Same here... I am addicted to new packages and get nervous when there aren't any;-)
[03:47] <rbrunhuber> hunger: I have a feisty on my desktop that gets me mad. Every update nothing new. This does not feel like progress.
[04:00] <hunger> nixternal: kpowersave does that and has some more nice features.
[04:00] <nixternal> very true
[04:01] <Hobbsee> hunger: nm doesnt work.  otehr things seem to.
[04:05] <yuriy> that so? maybe i'll try it when nm works
[04:05] <Hobbsee> didnt check very far
[04:06] <yuriy> looking forward to the battery life stuff sebas blogged about in 2.6.21
[04:06] <hunger> NM works for me... but then I did not reboot in a while:-)
[04:22] <Riddell> doc__: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join
[04:52] <Fahuadai> hello.
[04:53] <Fahuadai> I'm  looking for a place to contribute my modest programming skills to.  A link for a starting place or something would be great.
[04:55] <Jucato> Fahuadai: you will pardon if you don't get an answer at this time... some of the devs are at UDS right now
[04:56] <Fahuadai> no worries. i'm just about to upgrade to 7.04 anyways
[05:24] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[05:50] <nixternal> http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1
[05:51] <nixternal> PCLinuxOS > Ubuntu || KDE > GNOME || who cares? :p
[05:51] <nixternal> hehe
[05:56] <jsgotangco> huh?
[05:57] <Hobbsee> hi spam
[05:58] <jsgotangco> hey Hobbsee aren't you guys supposed to have an elegant dinner or something
[05:58] <crimsun> yes, she's just teasing us.
[05:58] <jsgotangco> arrghhh!
[05:59] <Hobbsee> jsgotangco: in a couple of hours, yeah
[05:59] <jsgotangco> that librarian in the video looks stoned lol
[05:59] <jsgotangco> but the catchy zydeco music is a winner for sure
[06:08] <nixternal> jsgotangco: congrats btw on the CC thing ;)
[06:08] <jsgotangco> nixternal: thanks :)
[06:10] <buz> two things about the kde alpha packages
[06:10] <nixternal> 1) they aren't complete
[06:10] <buz> first, the repo in the announcement is not quite right
[06:10] <nixternal> 2) ... can't remember
[06:10] <buz> i think it should be deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ feisty main
[06:10] <nixternal> buz: you are correct
[06:10] <buz> and second, they want to remove kubuntu-desktop :(
[06:11] <nixternal> hrmm, they didn't do that here
[06:12] <buz> http://pastebin.ca/483155
[06:13] <buz> i think its because of the qt changes
[06:13] <buz> kubuntu-desktop probably does depend on plain qt4
[06:19] <nixternal> well I know the kde4* packages dep on libqt4-*-kdecopy
[06:19] <buz> yeah so they yank out kubuntu-desktops dependency on qt4
[06:19] <buz> and kubuntu-desktop with it
[06:19] <buz> it should probably create a diversion
[06:19] <buz> or whatever the name for that was
[06:20] <nixternal> is it wanting to remove just kubuntu-desktop, or all of the applications that it falls under?
[06:23] <nixternal> hrmm, seems Riddell hasn't pushed the changed to bzr yet
[06:29] <buz> just kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <buz> and a few select others
[06:30] <buz> see http://pastebin.ca/483155
[06:31] <nixternal> hrmm
[06:31] <nixternal> I didn't get that
[06:31] <buz> i wont install it just now
[06:31] <nixternal> I wonder if there was a change since I did mine the other day
[06:32] <nixternal> I don't have access to the site, otherwise I would fix that typo
[06:32] <nixternal> plus the modules I built for amd64 haven't been added either, and there are modules awaiting
[06:33] <nixternal> ahh well, will check it out later, time to get to work
[06:43] <bddebian> Heya
[06:49] <dinosaur-rus> hi bddebian
[06:51] <bddebian> Hello dinosaur-rus
[08:34] <paran> Hi. The apt sources line on http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha1.php is incorrect
[08:35] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^
[08:35] <paran> should be: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1/ feisty main
[08:37] <paran> nice work getting the alpha to feisty this fast btw :)
[08:43] <rbrunhuber> are the kde 4 alpha 1 packages compatible with gutsy?
[08:48] <_StefanS_> just saw that also :)
[08:50] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : so we'll have to try spoiling a setup :-)
[08:51] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: I can test on my gutsy vm if you like ? :)
[08:52] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Would be a great help.
[08:53] <_StefanS_> be like 5 mins
[08:53] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : thanks.
[08:55] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: its downloading..
[09:00] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : so at last apt sees no dependency problems? So problems may only arise at run time.
[09:01] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: seems ok for now, its almost done downloading those 210mb of archives ;)
[09:01] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: nice having that 15mbit line
[09:01] <_StefanS_> installing now
[09:02] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Cool can't get a faster line than 6 mbit here near munich.  I thought they had times where you could end up with 108% taxes for the last buck?!
[09:09] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well thats alot more in dk, so I say again. Sweden is where you want to be.
[09:09] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : But maybe we should change the topic for this is not #tax-discussions :-)
[09:10] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: right. EOF discussion.
[09:10] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: good luck on the kde4 thing.
[09:10] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_:  Back to kde4 any shiny new featurs
[09:10] <_StefanS_> ;D
[09:13] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Saw some screenshots but still don't know if they are RL or mockups
[09:13] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: well from what I have seen so far its not really a desktop yet. Rather a few qt4 apps ;)
[09:14] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: but maybe that have changed, looking forward to see it.
[09:14] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : So did you not start it up to now?
[09:14] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : I mean the alpha?
[09:14] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: not yet. The package installer succeeded fine though.
[09:15] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : This is what I've seen today: http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2007/11188.html
[09:15] <_StefanS_> looks like it yes.
[09:15] <_StefanS_> even the question mark icon left third position ;)
[09:16] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Have you ever tried avahi in feisty
[09:16] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: nope, not really
[09:16] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: supposed to something like upnp I guess, never had the incentive to use it :)
[09:17] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : I'd like to play kbattleship over it. Just to be able to say, that i have played kbattleship over avahi :-)
[09:18] <_StefanS_> wow that sounds useful :)
[09:18] <_StefanS_> I dont do games so much in kde... have a wii and ps3 for that kind of thing ;)
[09:18] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Wow that sounded ironic
[09:18] <_StefanS_> :)
[09:19] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : It seems that is the only very_low_overhead_directly_in_front_of_your_nose_avahi app.
[09:20] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : I don't want to set up a avahi share thing just to share my handful of mp3s
[09:20] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: yea, it really seems...ehm... useful.
[09:21] <_StefanS_> like putting an extra windshield on a car or something.
[09:22] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : don't you have a extra windshield on your get one pay three car?
[09:22] <_StefanS_> touch :)
[09:26] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : You are totally right it is not useful, silly overhead (shutdown dns). But i think it's worth to try once. Just for fun.
[09:27] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: yes definitely, you might get an idea to create a new fork of it called haiku or something :)
[09:27] <_StefanS_> avahi and haiku
[09:28] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : I'll create a fork called ihava where you need maximum configuration. Also known as infiniconf :-)
[09:28] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: that will get the advanced users busy :D
[09:29] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : And it will be the new keyfeature of brainfuck os :-)
[09:29] <_StefanS_> hehe
[09:30] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: haha it started by crashing the ksmserver..
[09:30] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : Or my tests will bring up tons of problems and bugreports like my bluetooth experiment
[09:30] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: thats real alpha stuff for you ;)
[09:32] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : My middle name is segmentation fault :-9
[09:32] <_StefanS_> rbrunhuber: righto. Then its the way to go.. somehow the window manager seems borked
[09:33] <_StefanS_> nevermind, I have to do some work. Then I'm going to play resistance: FoM :D
[09:33] <rbrunhuber> _StefanS_ : CU.
[09:33] <_StefanS_> yessir.
[09:42] <ScottK> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2797


[08:01] <HugoKuo> hello
[08:01] <HugoKuo> 請
[08:02] <HugoKuo> may I ask a question about attach a patch
[08:02] <HugoKuo> I got a problem on PXE install Maverick
[08:03] <HugoKuo> my own hostname which is set in kickstart , is ignored by netcfg
[08:04] <HugoKuo> I found a bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606636#42
[08:04] <HugoKuo> the solution is to attach that patch to netcfg
[08:05] <HugoKuo> but I never did something like this
[08:05] <HugoKuo> have no idea
[08:05] <HugoKuo> could someone plz do me a favor ?  a link or doc is good for me.
[08:05] <HugoKuo> thanks
[09:02] <AceLan> HugoKuo: file a bug on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu if you use ubuntu
[09:03] <HugoKuo> Hello AceLan
[09:03] <HugoKuo> this bug is already on launchpad for a long time
[09:03] <AceLan> HugoKuo: or describe your problem in chinese and post it on http://ubuntu-tw.org
[09:03] <HugoKuo> ok thanks AceLan
[09:03] <AceLan> HugoKuo: could you give me the bug number?
[09:04] <HugoKuo> Bug #218965
[09:04] <AceLan> wow, an old bug
[09:05] <HugoKuo> actually I found a solution , but I don't know how to attach that patch
[09:05] <HugoKuo> I have no experience for attaching a patch
[09:06] <HugoKuo> I try to find out some doc , but no one is good for a beginer such like me
[09:06] <HugoKuo> 抱歉我的x-chat中文顯示有些問題
[09:07] <HugoKuo> 剛剛都用英文描述
[09:07] <HugoKuo> 如果有份資料可以讓我參照去打補釘 應該就可以了
[09:07] <AceLan> 用英文也通啦 :)
[09:07] <HugoKuo> 你好
[09:07] <HugoKuo> 前輩
[09:07] <AceLan> orz
[09:07] <AceLan> 只是比較老而已
[09:08] <AceLan> launchpad 上的 patch 有試過嗎？
[09:08] <HugoKuo> 還沒
[09:08] <HugoKuo> 因為我不懂該如何把那補丁打上去
[09:08] <HugoKuo> 情緣兩我的無知
[09:08] <HugoKuo> 請原諒
[09:08] <AceLan> 怪了 都有 patch 了 怎麼 bug 都沒 fixed
[09:09] <HugoKuo> 我查看MIRROR 理有netcfg的套件是.udeb
[09:09] <HugoKuo> 本來我以為解她開把補釘製換進去就好
[09:09] <HugoKuo> 可是udeb似乎跟deb有些不同我不確定
[09:10] <HugoKuo> 據說這是個令人詬病很久的問題囉
[09:14] <HugoKuo> 安裝patch 這個套件 亂搞中
[10:41] <HugoKuo> 卡彈卡很久
[14:16] <endless> 大家晚 -,.-


[05:21] <voltaire> hey
[12:55] <krokosjablik> Hello, I am actually testing a bonobo server file for a gnome applet, how i can refresh the applets preview? If I change the "panel:icon" in the "server"-file, the applet preview  (Add To Panel) show still the old icon... Do I have to restart the bonobo activation server, how?
[14:36] <krokosjablik> actually I just kill the gnome-panel process, it started then automatically and the applet list is fresh after that... Is there a better solution?
[20:16] <cody-somerville> Does anyone here know Rodney Dawes?
[20:18] <crevette> cody-somerville: its nick is dobezy
[20:18] <crevette> dobey
[20:18] <crevette> he is on #tango usually
[20:18] <cody-somerville> We should see about getting him at FOSSCamp to see if we can standardize some of the extensions to his icon-naming-spec
[23:46] <espacious> where do i find most common programs to use with gnome?


[12:24] <leeyee> Hi, I just want to look into how upstart works when Linux startup, any suggestion?
[12:25] <leeyee> Simply which directory upstart entered in at first will be okay


[02:45] <m4n1sh> WRT to this issue https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/activity-log-manager/+pots/activity-log-manager/he/16/+translate I am not sure. Does it mean that "0 seconds (lock immediately)" makes no sense. Only "0 second (lock immediately)" should be there?


[04:01] <tinman_> where is my "Source function library"?
[05:29] <KlausKhaus> Boa noite
[05:30] <KlausKhaus> Algum brasileiro online pode me ajudar?
[05:30] <Unit193> !br
[05:32] <KlausKhaus> thanks
[08:04] <coppa> Hello Again people, Unit193 Don't know if you remember me : installing ubuntustudio 13.10 from usbdrive : Error Installing /cdrom/pool/main/c/console-setup-linux 1.88 _all.deb details : trying to overwrite "/etc/console-setup/compose.ISO-8859-13.inc' which is also in package console-setup 1.88
[09:16] <kenton> hi all! this morning my ubuntu studio stack in black screen at boot after grub ... i'm using catalyst propetary drivers with a 6870 but should be an update by the fact that i never had instability by far ?
[09:18] <wilee-nilee> kenton, proprietary drivers generally don;t follow kernel updates/upgrades
[09:19] <kenton> mmm u r right ...
[09:19] <wilee-nilee> unless from the ubuntu repos
[09:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | kenton
[09:20] <wilee-nilee> you can get in a reload them maybe
[09:20] <kenton> i did a recovery repair and update upgrade but nothing ...
[09:20] <kenton> YEAH ! but ...
[09:20] <kenton> i've to edit etc/default/grub file
[09:20] <kenton> but i havent' default directory in my system
[09:21] <kenton> i'm staked there ...
[09:21] <kenton> maybe in studio the grub file is not there ?
[09:22] <wilee-nilee> graphics are not my forte, and I don't undestand what your taliking about, grub is the same in studio as the rest as ubuntu.
[09:24] <kenton> lol :) when i do: cd etc/default the answer is : the directory don't exist ... i know that have to be there ... boh ... !?!?
[09:28] <wilee-nilee> kenton, you are using cd where?
[09:28] <kenton> cd live ?
[09:29] <wilee-nilee> kenton, just open computer and go directly there, however if you modify it you would have to chroot in to run a update, use the nomodeset option and do this from the install.
[09:30] <wilee-nilee> the live cd is not like running the install, you have some access, but limitations.
[09:31] <kenton> kk but i'm over an installed stable ubuntu studio 13.04 ... working perfectly until now ...
[09:32] <kenton> no updates ... no hardware change ... only black screen this morning ...
[09:32] <kenton> the fact that my etc/default directory is not there tell me that i have a file corruption
[09:34] <kenton> i was wondering that ubuntu studio locate that file elsewhere like some other distribution but if you tell me not ... i've a corruption
[09:35] <kenton> tkx u a lot wilee-nilee !! :)
[09:35] <wilee-nilee> kenton, Your not accessing it correctly, I have never heard of using a cd from the live cd that way.
[09:35] <kenton> i'm not using a cd
[09:35] <wilee-nilee> you would have to chroot in to cd there
[09:35] <kenton> where i told it ?
[09:36] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee> kenton, you are using cd where?
 cd live ?
[09:36] <kenton> u asked me ...
[09:36] <kenton> i asked u what u was meaning
[09:36] <kenton> that's all
[09:36] <wilee-nilee> kenton, you said you were trying to cd to etc, I then asked you where you were running that cd.
[09:37] <kenton> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[09:37] <kenton> AHAHAHA
[09:37] <kenton> misunderstood enach other
[09:37] <kenton> change directory
[09:37] <wilee-nilee> misunderstanding, it helps if we are clear I guess.
[09:37] <kenton> by root shell: -> cd /etc/default
[09:37] <kenton> give me directory don't exsist
[09:37] <kenton> taht my problem :D DDD
[09:38] <wilee-nilee> I would just try the nomodeset and see if you get in this is much easier from inside the running OS not in root.
[09:39] <kenton> yeah is what i was trying to do ... but if i cant access to grub configuration file by root by the fact that i've not the etc/default/grub file .... i'm bloked :D
[09:39] <wilee-nilee> you would run /etc/default/grub in root with a terminal editor anyway.
[09:40] <kenton> u mean that if i haven't that file i create it with nano ?
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> I never use them so don't know the names
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> nano /etc/default/grub should bring it up
[09:40] <wilee-nilee> in root
[09:41] <kenton> yeah 4 sure ... ok i try ;)
[09:41] <kenton> tkx u by now
[09:41] <wilee-nilee> Im never use nano though or not very often anyway
[13:06] <wayne__> anyone know how to make sound work with ,recordmy desktop
[14:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Finally fixed GRUB! Thanks to all who helped!
[16:28] <coppa> Unit193 fyi the issue was from unetbootin
[16:28] <coppa> thx
[17:08] <PhilippLinner> Hello I have a problem with Ubuntu Studio 13:10. How can I unlock make access to my audio channel?
[17:15] <holstein> PhilippLinner: in what way? where?
[17:15] <holstein> !proaudio
[17:15] <holstein> PhilippLinner: you'll want to learn to use JACK properly.. you can always try #opensourcemusicians
[17:16] <holstein> if jack is not something you are interested in using, you can just use pulse audio and pavucontrol
[17:18] <PhilippLinner> I  have absolutely no sound that the speaker icon is grayed out and I can nich activate the correct input
[17:19] <holstein> PhilippLinner: try unmuting it, and troubleshooting your sound generally in #ubuntu or in #xubuntu
[17:19] <holstein> !audio
[17:19] <holstein> PhilippLinner: cheers and good luck.. i'll be back in later
[17:59] <Zathur> :)
[18:01] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[20:53] <fcuevas> help
[20:57] <cub> with what?
[21:02] <fcuevas> no sound in ubuntustudio
[21:02] <fcuevas> i've recently updated, sound dissapeared from session
[21:08] <fcuevas> help
[21:11] <zequence> fcuevas: When you say sound, do you mean pulseaudio or jack?
[21:11] <zequence> fcuevas: Which version of Ubuntu Studio? Did you add any PPAs?
[21:11] <fcuevas> pulseaudio
[21:11] <fcuevas> 13.10
[21:11] <fcuevas> nope
[21:11] <zequence> Ok, so you upgraded?
[21:11] <zequence> not updated
[21:11] <zequence> I mean, to a new release
[21:12] <fcuevas> yes
[21:12] <fcuevas> my english is bad
[21:12] <fcuevas> i've recently upgraded to a new release
[21:12] <zequence> fcuevas: could you do this command, and paste the result to http://paste.ubuntu.com : cat /proc/asound/cards
[21:13] <fcuevas> ok
[21:14] <fcuevas> done
[21:15] <zequence> fcuevas: Pass me the link
[21:15] <fcuevas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6266428/
[21:15] <zequence> fcuevas: Ok, so you only have one sound card?
[21:15] <fcuevas> yes,
[21:15] <fcuevas> integrated, from notebook
[21:16] <zequence> fcuevas: did you make sure the output setting for pulseaudio is not set for earphones or something like that?
[21:16] <fcuevas> yes
[21:17] <zequence> fcuevas: So, you can see your audio card in pulseaudio?
[21:17] <fcuevas> the sound icon
[21:17] <zequence> yes
[21:17] <zequence> Is there a "Analog Output"
[21:18] <fcuevas> i click in the sound icon
[21:18] <fcuevas> and does'nt show nothing
[21:18] <fcuevas> yes
[21:18] <fcuevas> i can raise up
[21:18] <fcuevas> and raise down volume
[21:18] <fcuevas> but the volume icon doesn't change
[21:19] <fcuevas> is a speaker with --
[21:19] <fcuevas> i click it, and get no menu
[21:19] <fcuevas> http://i.imgur.com/Ecw01Sh.png
[21:19] <fcuevas> it's like that
[21:21] <zequence> fcuevas: My knowledge of pulseaudio is not that great. Could you ask about it on #pulseaudio
[21:21] <zequence> if for some reason pulseaudio is not detecting your card, it is quite serious
[21:21] <fcuevas> but, jack does
[21:21] <zequence> Yes, alsa is working fine
[21:21] <zequence> pulseaudio uses alsa, but sometimes it gets problems with certain cards
[21:22] <zequence> jack also uses alsa
[21:22] <fcuevas> it worked fine until upgrade
[21:22] <fcuevas> before upgrade*
[21:22] <zequence> fcuevas: Yes, a recent version of pulseaudio is probably the problem. Please ask for help in the channel #pulseaudio
[21:22] <fcuevas> ok
[21:22] <zequence> fcuevas: Also, please report a bug
[21:22] <zequence> fcuevas: in a terminal: ubuntu-bug pulseaudio
[21:22] <zequence> You probably need a launchpad account
[21:23] <zequence> http://launchpad.net
[21:23] <fcuevas> thanks
[21:23] <zequence> fcuevas: Hope you get your sound back soon
[21:23] <fcuevas> im hoping it too
[21:24] <fcuevas> thanks
[21:32] <luca__> IAOCIAO
[21:49] <fcuevas> there is any known problem with xfce4-volumed?
[21:49] <fcuevas> it does'nt start if i dont use sudo
[21:49] <fcuevas> and it does'nt start at login