[18:04] <_Marcus> bekks: Hah, no! This one cost enough already. I had no problem using this on Windows, I see no reason it shouldn't work on Ubuntu.
[18:04] <bekks> deadmund: I am pretty sure, yes.
[18:04] <Sander__> does any1 have ndiswrapper on his ubuntu 12.04? or is it not even possible?
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: Because the driver does not support it.
[18:04] <obi> Troy: gtk3
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: If you like to use that feature, you have to use Windows.
[18:04] <bekks> _Marcus: Or you have to try the opensource AMD drivers.
[18:04] <Kingsy> what is a good undelete tool for ubuntu?
[18:04] <deadmund> bekks: whoa whoa whoa
[18:04] <ClientAlive> jrib: I'm just curious. In the comand that you use (the one you shared with me here), what does the --nofork option mean? Is that an option telling gvimdiff not to use a third file for the merge but only the two that need merged?
[18:05] <bekks> Kingsy: "backup".
[18:05] <Kingsy> basically just looking to recover some files on a formatted drive
[18:05] <OpenbsdVbox> !undelete | Kingsy
[18:05] <deadmund> _Marcus: there is something we can try.  What model card do you have?  Please pastebin the output of sudo lspci -k   so I can read it:  paste.ubuntu.com
[18:05] <OpenbsdVbox> Kingsy: but nothing can beat a backup
[18:05] <Kingsy> hehe yeah
[18:05] <Jordan_U> Kingsy: "formatted" how?
[18:05] <Kingsy> OpenbsdVbox: do any of those have a GUI ?
[18:05] <jrib> ClientAlive: nah, by default gvim will fork into the background and free up the terminal.  I don't want it to do that
[18:05] <_Marcus> deadmund: Okay. I refuse to go back to an operating system that uses up almost 2 GB of memory on just normal startup (which would be Windows)
[18:06] <OpenbsdVbox> Kingsy: no idea, i've never used them
[18:06] <Sander__> Does anyone have NIDSwrapper on his Ubuntu 12.04 or is it not possible anymore, I can't seem to get mine working.
[18:06] <CPCookieMan> Why would I be hanging at the purple screen on bootup?
[18:06] <Kingsy> Jordan_U: not sure at this point, it was done a MAC.. just seeing if I can recover any files for a friend
[18:06] <bekks> _Marcus: Then your only chance is to try the opensource drivers IF they do support your graphics card.
[18:06] <deadmund> _Marcus: well Id on't think you fully understand why it does that but Windows is lousy for other reasons.  Answer my questions and make that pastebin
[18:06] <deadmund> bekks: wrong
[18:06] <BlackWool> how do i set default keyboard backlight level? Seems like it resets after shutdown -on MacBookPro Ubuntu 12.04. Anyone?
[18:06] <deadmund> bekks: He can try to set a new modeline in xrandr
[18:06] <bekks> deadmund: That wont make the virtual size magically larger.
[18:07] <tyhgvg> what else should 2GB ram be used?
[18:07] <bekks> Why should RAM not be used?
[18:07] <deadmund> bekks: the virtual size maybe be incorrectly probed
[18:07] <bekks> deadmund: point taken.
[18:07] <Kingsy> there must be a generic undelete application somewhere that attempts to recover lost files. I am sure I have used one, but I cant remember what it was
[18:07] <_Marcus> deadmund: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223017/ It seems a bit confusing in that paste, because I have both an AMD CPU and GPU.
[18:07] <deadmund> Sander__: I've gotten it working.  What wifi card do you have?
[18:07] <bekks> Kingsy: No. There is no generic undelete application.
[18:07] <ccallahan> I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown (http://sprunge.us/NGIe).
[18:07] <ccallahan> Any thoughts?
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> EXT4-FS: Failed loading journal
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> WTF?
[18:08] <ClientAlive> jrib: oh, ok. thx man.
[18:08] <truexfan81> ouch
[18:08] <deadmund> _Marcus: the graphics card is on line 66
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> There's a lot of other ATA errors in there
[18:08] <_Marcus> deadmund: Okay. So how do I solve this?
[18:08] <CPCookieMan> And then it drops to initramfs prompt
[18:08] <deadmund> _Marcus: hang on... reading
[18:09] <CPCookieMan> Is it trashed?
[18:09] <bampersand> Hey guys, I've got thousands of ebooks and I'm sure there'll be many duplicates, what tool should I be using to detect dupes? (the problem is though that some may be the same document, just scanned differently - meaning the dupe may not identify them?)
[18:09] <Kingsy> looks like its been formatted to FAT32
[18:10] <deadmund> _Marcus: what resolution are you trying to achieve?  http://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/graphics/ati-mobility-hd-5700/Pages/hd-5750-specs.aspx
[18:10] <CPCookieMan> Kingsy: What?
[18:10] <Kingsy> CPCookieMan: the drive I am trying to recover is Fat32
[18:10] <deadmund> _Marcus: Cause this web page says the card only supports 2560 x 1600
[18:10] <CPCookieMan> Oh, you should be able to recover files then
[18:10] <ninux> lynx webdavs://elearning.hslu.ch/ilias/webdav.php/hslu/ref_1807128/
[18:10]  * tyhgvg wonders what bampersand is using to read them
[18:10] <Kingsy> CPCookieMan: yeah, it would be nice to use an application that has a GUI tho
[18:11] <deadmund> _Marcus: FYI, there are two drivers you can use. The open source one called 'radon' and the closed source one called 'fglrx' right now you're using fglrx
[18:11] <truexfan81> CPCookieMan: if you boot to a cd or usb can you access the drive? if yes, i suggest backing up whatever you can from it
[18:11] <llutz> tyhgvg: no pc/laptop i guess
[18:11] <ClientAlive> jrib: but diff3 is what I'll be using (along with backupcurrr, backupdir, and backuploc with unison). diff3 uses 3 files to do it's thing. So is the order to write those variable in my script like this?  [Code]merge = Name /* diff3 CURRENT1 CURRENT2 CURRENTARCH[/Code] ? Or does "CURRENTARCH" need to come first in sequence?
[18:11] <CPCookieMan> ata1.00: Failed command: READ DMA EXT
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> Media error
[18:12] <_Marcus> deadmund: I'm nowhere near that maximum. I am trying to use 1600 x 900
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> Anyone care to help here?
[18:12] <deadmund> _Marcus: 1600 x 900 on two monitors? so 3200 x 1800 ??
[18:12] <CPCookieMan> If possible I'd like to get it back running without a CD
[18:12] <_Marcus> deadmund: Uh, I guess.
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: That's the problem.
[18:13] <tenX> CPCookieMan: hw errors. try dd_rescue
[18:13] <_Marcus> deadmund: So is this a problem with xorg? Because like I said, it works on Windows.
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: the card won't do it (regardless of driver).  I think bekks was right about needed a different card
[18:13] <tenX> CPCookieMan: and i'd use a cd
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: Well, we can try to set a lower resolution over two monitors
[18:13] <deadmund> _Marcus: But it will make everything larger.  Do you understand?
[18:13] <CPCookieMan> tenX: Not really an option, this laptop has a broken DVD drive and won't boot from the external ones
[18:14] <_Marcus> deadmund: What kind of card would give you three DVI ports, 1 VGA port, and an HDMI port, and expect you to not use 2 monitors?
[18:14] <deadmund> _Marcus: alright let's try here...  I've never done 2 monitors but I can do large resolutions no problem
[18:15] <_Marcus> deadmund: This doesn't seem to make sense. Why is this only happening when I use Gnome Desktop?
[18:15] <deadmund> _Marcus: Can you show me the output of xrandr
[18:15] <_Marcus> deadmund: How do I do that?
[18:15] <Troy^> arg unity is frustrating trying to use it over xfce
[18:15] <deadmund> _Marcus: run xrandr  , use paste.ubuntu.com
[18:16] <_Marcus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223041/
[18:16] <ClientAlive> I'll just try the variations till it works  :)
[18:16] <deadmund> _Marcus: right now you have a clone running?
[18:17] <killer> is there a download manager that has feattures comparable to idm?
[18:17] <_Marcus> deadmund: Yes.
[18:18] <deadmund> _Marcus: try setting a lower resolution then turning on two monitors
[18:18] <_Marcus> deadmund: That does work, I have tried that.
[18:18] <eheirwer> hello, does anybody know what "rigger-heads" means in this sentence: He held on through the level stretch of woods for several miles, crossed a wide flat of rigger-heads, and dropped down a bank to the frozen bed of a small stream.
[18:18] <ccallahan> (Ubuntu 12.04) I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown that Linux detects the card. (http://sprunge.us/NGIe). Any ideas why Catalyst won't detect them?
[18:18] <deadmund> _Marcus: ...
[18:18] <jrib> eheirwer: ##english, not here
[18:19] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's the solution
[18:19] <OpenbsdVbox> !ot | eheirwer
[18:19] <_Marcus> deadmund: Actually, no. I can't do 1900 x 600 and 800 x 600
[18:19] <eheirwer> ccallahan, just use the opensource drivers. Those are much better
[18:19] <ccallahan> Linky?
[18:19] <JeanS> how can i clear the command history used in a bash?
[18:19] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think the best resolution you can get is 1280x800
[18:19] <Kingsy> isnt there any data recovery tools that have a GUI?
[18:19] <_Marcus> deadmund: But why?
[18:20] <deadmund> _Marcus: Because your card has a limit of 2560x1600.  So if you want two monitors you can put 1/2 of 2560 on each monitor
[18:20] <_Marcus> deadmund: I know you showed me that page, and it said it could be only so big, but I don't believe that inside Windows 7 is some wizard who makes AMD cards work with two 1900 x 600 monitors magically.
[18:20] <deadmund> _Marcus: that's 1280
[18:21] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think windows is automatically changing your resolution down to 1280
[18:21] <llutz> JeanS: "history -c"  "help history" for more info
[18:21] <_Marcus> deadmund: It doesn't look like it.
[18:21] <deadmund> _Marcus: Well maybe you can check.  Also, that wizard is typically referred to as the windows proprietary driver which often does magic.
[18:21] <ccallahan> JeanS: rm -Rrf ~/.bash_history
[18:22] <deadmund> _Marcus: Maybe you can check the actual resolution instead of eye-balling it.
[18:22] <_Marcus> deadmund: Then isn't it xorg's fault?
[18:23] <deadmund> _Marcus: I guess? I mean, the card lists a max resolution on that website and you're explicitly asking to break that limit.  I would blame amd / radeon for showing a max resolution that is actually a lie and better resolutions can be achieved on different OS's
[18:24] <deadmund> _Marcus: But, to be clear.  I think that you're mistaken and on windows the resolution is changed when you selected 2 monitors
[18:24] <ezioa> i'm just trying to get a simple test of grep working here ... ls | grep '.\{6\}' ... i was hoping that this would print files of only 6 characters in length but it only prints them all
[18:24] <Sander__> deadmund its not my wifi that is the problem, its the installing of NDISwrapper itself :P
[18:24] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox I have updated my Kernel still the device is not listed sound
[18:25] <_Marcus> deadmund: Would that mean Ubuntu is changing it as well? Because it the resolution looks the same on both operating systems.
[18:25] <Sander__> and my usb networkcard is on the "working"list
[18:25] <deadmund> Sander__: Sounds like the same issue to me.  I ask because it's often much easier to use drivers besides ndiswrapper.  Also, I'm not 100% sure your card is supported by ndiswrapper.
[18:26] <deadmund> _Marcus: I mean.  I think that the resolution is being changed on windows when you turn on 2 monitors.  My understanding is you haven't been able to turn on two monitors in Ubuntu.  And no, I don't think it's changing the resolution at any point without notifying you (windows might be doing so when you turn on the 2nd monitor)
[18:26] <_Marcus> deadmund: Do you think any difference could be made if I switched to the open source driver instead of fglrx?
[18:26] <Sander__> deadmund:  802.11g WPA2 PSK
[18:26] <deadmund> _Marcus: I think that the max resolution is 2560 and you can't break it regardless of what driver you use.
[18:26] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: i've never had an issue with sound, what are the specs of your machine?
[18:27] <deadmund> Sander__: That's not the wifi card.  That's your encryption scheme.  To see the chipset (the card) run sudo lspci -k -C Network
[18:27] <llutz> ezioa: ls | grep -o -w '\w\{6\}'
[18:27] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't believe in limitations.
[18:27] <N03L> Hey people, what's the command for weechat to see everything within server?
[18:27] <deadmund> _Marcus: ur insane
[18:27] <_Marcus> deadmund: I could be
[18:27] <ilaiho> hi!
[18:27] <Sander__> deadmund oh ok its Sitecom 300n
[18:27] <smt> hi, i have problems with the speed of my (brand new) dvd drive, on a pure copy job it just gives me 5.4 MB/s reading speed, any ideas what i can do (its a sata drive in ahci mode, that should deliver 22x reading speed)
[18:27] <N03L> I think it was like irc.server*
[18:27] <N03L> Or something, right?
[18:28] <deadmund> Sander__: That's the ROUTER.  I wanna know the card in the computer.  Please runt he command
[18:28] <ilaiho> on 12.04, avahi wrongly claims that i am using .local domain while it is actually .internal
[18:28] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox Is thr any command to look
[18:28] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: lspci
[18:29] <deadmund> Sander__: sorry, I made a typo.  The command is sudo lspci -k  you can put it here for me to look at: paste.ubuntu.com
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> Sander__, do lspci and pastebin the output
[18:29] <N03L> Oh wait, was it /set irc.server* ?
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> or what deadmund said
[18:29] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/uxkaJ0rb
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> N03L, irssi?
[18:30] <lwizardl> in 10.04 64bit I am having problems with toem playing video formats. I already have the restrictedextras installed. any ideas ?
[18:30] <saber_> jep
[18:30] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know if is it possible to launch the network control applet from Unity on other WMs, like fluxbox/openbox? If positive, does anyone know which bin is it?
[18:31] <_Marcus> deadmund: I don't care what AMD says. I'm going to make this work one way or another. I know someone who had a card about the same as mine and had two monitors that were larger in resolution.
[18:31] <N03L> TheLordOfTime: weechat
[18:31] <_Marcus> deadmund: But thank you for your help :)
[18:31] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: lspci
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> N03L, did you ask in weechat support?
[18:31] <deadmund> _Marcus: Good luck!
[18:31] <_Marcus> Thanks
[18:31] <ElixirVitae> Hello!
[18:32] <ElixirVitae> Does changing ownership of partitions through chown make it constant
[18:32] <obi> deadmund: "Good luck" won't even beat the impossible :p
[18:32] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/1NNpqnbF
[18:32] <ElixirVitae> or do I need to do it everytime I boot
[18:32] <N03L> TheLordOfTime: Hahaha, that's a good idea.
[18:32] <atari314> Nvm, it's nm-applet
[18:32] <deadmund> obi: Your telling me! :)
[18:33] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: and: lsmod
[18:33] <obi> deadmund: it's like saying you are gonna fly your plane that's hardware is a that of a boat, lol
[18:33] <Katronix> Hi all, can anyone lend me hand in figuring out why my apache subdomains aren't work? Code snippet here: http://pastebin.com/VX0yLYHu
[18:34] <Sander__> i cannot paste it there becouse this chat is on my windows laptop
[18:34] <deadmund> obi: I know!  I didn't realize when I started helping him that he was insane :P
[18:34] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox http://pastebin.com/nnbdYDpD
[18:34] <deadmund> Sander__: Does the target machine not have an internet connection?
[18:34] <obi> deadmund: At least you tried! :)
[18:34] <deadmund> obi: yeah
[18:34] <Sander__> deadmund no
[18:34] <ccallahan> (Ubuntu 12.04) I am having issues running the AMD video drivers on a FireGL V5250. I installed the drivers per http://askubuntu.com/questions/162831/ubuntu-12-04-radeon-hd-6670-help and in lspci it's clearly shown that Linux detects the card. (http://sprunge.us/NGIe). Any ideas why amd won't detect it?
[18:35] <Sander__> deadmund thats why i need the NDISwrapper :)
[18:35] <deadmund> Sander__: Then you're gonna have to read the output on that machine and tell his.  Look for network controller or wlan controller or something simillar
[18:35] <deadmund> Sander__: Understandable :)
[18:35] <deadmund> tell us*
[18:36] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec
[18:37] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox no output
[18:37] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: that means the module is now loaded
[18:38] <_cb> is it against the rules to hijack a nick?
[18:38] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: see if you can open your sound preferences thingy to select your output
[18:38] <Katronix> Hi all, can anyone lend me hand in figuring out why my apache subdomains aren't work? Code snippet here: http://pastebin.com/VX0yLYHu
[18:38] <_cb> Katronix: please use ubuntu paste
[18:39] <Sander__> deadmund i cannot find it, but i have the package of the usb network card, the model number is WL-352
[18:39] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox output device shows Dummy Output and no hardware output device
[18:40] <Sander__> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Sitecom_WL-352
[18:40] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: you did restart after the kernel update yes?
[18:40] <nsudo> OpenbsdVbox yes
[18:40] <OpenbsdVbox> nsudo: then i'm out of ideas
[18:41] <Katronix> _cb ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223086/
[18:42] <praveen_> Hey Guys! I have a problem booting ubuntu in my Lenovo T430
[18:43] <Sander__> deadmund: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Sitecom_WL-352 this is my network card
[18:43] <praveen_> It just does't boot automatically. But it can boot with the help of installation media
[18:43] <praveen_> Can anybody help?
[18:43] <arooni-mobile> i have tried both: http://www.ryukent.com/2010/10/changing-chrome-magnet-link-association-in-ubuntu/ and http://myinterestingubuntu.blogspot.com/2012/01/change-magnet-links-association-in.html ... but im not able ot change my association for magnet links
[18:43] <_cb> is it against the rules to hijack a nick?
[18:44] <anti-freeze> _cb, im pretty sure its against law
[18:44] <_cb> anti-freeze: really?
[18:44] <llutz> _cb #freenode, this is ubuntu-support
[18:44] <_cb> lol sorry
[18:45] <anti-freeze> _cb, dont apologise to me, apologise to the person you hijacked
[18:45] <nsudo> can anyone help me with the sound card of mine
[18:46] <nsudo> really bugging me now!
[18:46] <deadmund> Sander__: because it's a USB device it doesn't show up in the output of sudo lspci -k
[18:46] <praveen_> llutz: I have a problem with ubuntu booting
[18:46] <arooni-mobile> i have tried both: http://www.ryukent.com/2010/10/changing-chrome-magnet-link-association-in-ubuntu/ and http://myinterestingubuntu.blogspot.com/2012/01/change-magnet-links-association-in.html ... but im not able ot change my association for magnet links
[18:47] <deadmund> Sander__: make sure you have the .inf and the .sys file (that make up the driver) put them in the same folder.  Then point ndisgtk to the .sys file (I think)
[18:47] <markovh> what's the actual installer package that ubuntu uses to install itself?
[18:47] <tyhgvg> ubiquity
[18:48] <markovh> tyhgvg: that was directed at me?
[18:49] <tyhgvg> y
[18:49] <OpenbsdVbox> !info ubiquity | markovh
[18:49] <markovh> tyhgvg: thanks
[18:49] <vessou> hi, i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and somehow, it lost mouse support, someone can help?
[18:50] <obi> vessou: what machine are you using?
[18:50] <chris__> hey guys
[18:50] <chris__> whenever i watch a youtube video
[18:50] <chris__> the colours are all inverted
[18:50] <bekks> !enter | chris__
[18:51] <chris__> okay understood!
[18:51] <obi> chris_: install flash :p
[18:51] <cielak> hello everyone! I have a trouble getting X to start correctly on a newly installed Ubuntu - can anyone give me a hand troubleshooting that?
[18:51] <bekks> chris__: Right click on that flash video, and disable the hardware acceleration in the flash settings.
[18:51] <nsudo> can anyone help me with the sound card of mine
[18:51] <praveen_> I am not able to boot ubuntu. Can anybody help?
[18:52] <cielak> or maybe can someone instead point me to where should I seek better assistance in that matter?
[18:52] <chris__> obi, thanks for the reply, already have :D
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, This a fresh install, you have any history leading to this?
[18:52] <chris__> bekks, thanks for the reply, trying now
[18:52] <gunarm1> i was trying to fix my wifi drivers by following some instructions and ended up (i think on a development branch) of the kernel,  when I get to the login screen on a terminal it says "Ubuntu quantal (devleopment branch)"  everything is screwed up, my gdb background is different, the battery icon in my toolbar is too big to fit in its allotted space, and worst of all my desktop manager won't run anymore so none of my windows have boarders.
[18:52] <gunarm1> Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[18:52] <dandedilia> Hello
[18:52] <praveen_> wikee-nilee: This is a fresh 12.04 installation
[18:52] <bekks> gunarm1: Now, you have installed the next release of Ubuntu, 12.10 - to get back to 12.04, you have to reinstall your Ubuntu.
[18:53] <Evdb> Hi Guys
[18:53] <chris__> bekks, I can bring up the menu however i cant select any options, and now the window wont close :S
[18:53] <Evdb> I need urgent help
[18:53] <Evdb> I've been trying all day to install Ubuntu on my Mac
[18:53] <chris__> !enter Evdb
[18:53] <OpenbsdVbox> !mac | Evdb
[18:54] <gunarm1> bekks, did that happen because I added these "quantal" sources in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:54] <Evdb> yeah but I can't find ANY solution
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, Is the HD it is on being read first in the bios, was this a auto install or did you use the something else option and know which mbr grub was put in, last was this a install from windows=wubi?
[18:54] <Evdb> but can someon ehelp me determining what to do?
[18:54] <Evdb> My bootbale USB gives me kernel panic
[18:54] <Evdb> not syncing
[18:54] <nsudo> cant find any solution for probing my onboard sound can anyone help
[18:54] <OpenbsdVbox> gunarm1: never mix releases
[18:54] <cielak> guys, anyone knowledgable about Xorg?
[18:54] <bekks> gunarm1: Yes.
[18:54] <praveen_> wilee-nilee: Its a fresh new installation on Lenovo T430. I installed using USB stick. Its not booting. It shows black screen with cursor blinking on top.
[18:55] <Sander__> deadmund: i dont know what to look for
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | praveen_
[18:55] <bekks> Evdb: Why dont you use a cdrom for installing Ubuntu?
[18:55] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:55] <praveen_> wilee-nilee: The grub is the one that comes with 12.04 LTS
[18:55] <gunarm1> OpenbsdVbox, it was an accident, trying despeartly to update my wireless drivers
[18:56] <bekks> gunarm1: So which wireless chipset do you have very exactly?
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, Check the nomodeset option, use the shift key to show the grub menu at powering on if this OS is the only install on the HD.
[18:56] <obi> praveen_ your mbr is probably set to boot from usb, instead of main hard drive. I actually went through this last week during a fresh install
[18:56] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:56] <Evdb> Can someone please help me one sec in private chat or something. I need ubuntu for school
[18:56] <deadmund> Evdb: Just ask your question and anybody that knows will help
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> obi, Don't assume please.
[18:56] <deadmund> Sander__: can you be more specific?
[18:56] <OerHeks> nsudo, did you follow this howto ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[18:56] <vessou> Evdb, download edubuntu.
[18:56] <Evdb> I already did
[18:57] <vessou> obi, this one:  Aspire one D270-268bb
[18:57] <Sander__> deadmund: I don't know for what.inf and .sys file I have to look
[18:57] <Evdb> yeah but it's about an error
[18:57] <Evdb> not about hwich version
[18:57] <OerHeks> nsudo, and this one > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[18:57] <praveen_> Let me check that.
[18:57] <Evdb> my bootable usb give kernel panic on my macbook
[18:57] <obi> wilee-nilee: don't assume what? i will just not respond to whatever you are referring to then, no problem
[18:57] <bekks> Evdb: Why dont you use a cdrom for installing Ubuntu?
[18:57] <Sander__> [20:48] <deadmund> Sander__: make sure you have the .inf and the .sys file (that make up the driver) put them in the same folder.  Then point ndisgtk to the .sys file (I think)
[18:57] <Evdb> hat failed miserably
[18:57] <Evdb> I've waisted 3 DVDs
[18:57] <deadmund> Sander__: Those are the driver files.  ndiswrapper uses the windows driver in linux.  It is a wrapper (hence the name)  You need to find the windows driver for your USB wifi thingy and pull out the .inf and .sys file and get them on the target machine
[18:58] <Evdb> USB goes a litlle better than DVD
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> obi, A black screen with a blinking cursor would not happen under your scenario.
[18:58] <Evdb> but still Kernel panic
[18:58] <bekks> Evdb: I am not talking about the dvd version. :)
[18:58] <Evdb> you mean I should use a 700 mb cd?
[18:58] <gunarm1> bekks, atheros ar9485,  and it has this problem that people talk about in both ubuntu and windows where it drops connection every few minutes, for ubuntu it was suggested to install compat-wireless, but the link was out of date (the compat-wireless didn't support my newer kernel) but I thought it was the other way around and my kernel was too old so I tried to update the kernel (which I thought failed), then downloaded a newer compat wirele
[18:58] <gunarm1> ss, which worked (well i'm not convinced it was fixed), then an apt-get upgrade and two reboots later and my computer goes haywire
[18:58] <obi> wilee-nilee: it did
[18:58] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please?
[18:59] <Evdb> bekks: you mean I should try a normal CD?
[18:59] <obi> wilee-nilee: changed the mbr (which was set to sda2 (usb)) to sda (main hard drive). Have a nice day
[18:59] <Sander__> deadmund: i think i found them, net8192su.inf and rtl8192su.sys, they where in my cd>drivers>winxp
[18:59] <bekks> gunarm1: You didnt mention the fact that you either modified your sources.list to use quantal instead of precise OR you didnt mention the fact that you used do-release-upgrade to upgrade to quantal.
[18:59] <deadmund> Sander__: that's it
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> praveen_, I have top get to writing some papers for a universiy course, your problem sounds easily fixable, others will help.
[18:59] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please?
[18:59] <bekks> gunarm1: However: To get back to 12.04, you have to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04
[19:00] <Evdb> bekks: should I use a CD?
[19:00] <Sander__> deadmund: do i need the xp ones becouse i can also choose other versions
[19:00] <bekks> Evdb: For the CD version - sure.
[19:00] <OpenbsdVbox> obi: sda is the same device
[19:00] <gunarm1> bekks, true, adding quantal into sources.list is how some link said to update the kernel (which I thought failed)
[19:00] <gunarm1> but ok
[19:00] <Evdb> bekks: if i download the default it's not for DVD? only for CD?
[19:00] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:00] <bekks> gunarm1: That does LOT more than just updating the kernel.
[19:00] <bekks> Evdb: Which file did you download very exactly?
[19:00] <obi> OpenbsdVbox: oops, sdb
[19:01] <Sander__> deadmund: like 2000 win7x86 and x64 vista
[19:01] <gunarm1> bekks, just feeling around in the dark to make the wireless tolerable on my brand new 1000$ ultrabook, so I dont have to just use windows
[19:01] <ClientAlive> jrib: Are you still around? I'm getting there man. A different thing I had a problem with before was syncing a file that's owned by root (or maybe it was the perms on the file). I would get a permission denied error. I see a section in the manual that talks about permissions but it's talking about something different. Do you know how to deal with that issue? How to sync files owned by root or with certain perms on them?
[19:01] <Evdb> bekks: ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:01] <gunarm1> but ok Ill reinstall, wouldnt you know its the first time in a decade I havent put /home on its own partition ;(
[19:01] <Evdb> I burnt it to a dvd but that didn't work
[19:01] <Jellyg00se> Hello, using ubuntu 12.04, unity after changing to a console using ctrl+alt+f1 and back to ''+f7 the indicators on the top seem to have "lost" their.. background? they look inverted, I tried compiz --replace but no joy, any clues without rebooting? :)
[19:01] <vessou> pastebin! ClientAlive
[19:02] <bekks> Evdb: Then use a CD.
[19:02] <vessou> pastebin! ClientAlive
[19:02] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:02] <Evdb> bekks: that will really just work?
[19:02] <bekks> Evdb: For me, it did on every release since 7.x
[19:02] <zoktar> is there any file manager that has "gksudo" when trying to remove a file you dont have write permission to?.
[19:02] <Evdb> bekks: I'll try ;)
[19:03] <ClientAlive> vessou: I'm sorry that was a while back and I no longer have the profile that was causing it. I can try my question at a later date but I thought I'd just give it a shot now - to see if there was any useful tidbits that might help me.
[19:03] <OpenbsdVbox> zoktar: gksudo is a command
[19:03] <zoktar>  well, a default elevation prompt of sorts then
[19:03] <Muelli> zoktar: I don't know. I'd be surprised. There is usually a good reason for you not to remove the file then.
[19:04] <OpenbsdVbox> zoktar: what file are you trying to remove and why?
[19:04] <obi> vessou: Not sure if this is right for your machine, but for me adding "options psmouse proto=imps" in a line at /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf (or any other file in that directory) fixed mine
[19:04] <guntbert_> zoktar: what file? where?
[19:04] <zoktar> in my case its a remote directory that i have not found how to change mask to
[19:04] <praveen_> obi: how can i check mbr?
[19:04] <Sander__> deadmund: the two files are on my desktop, so what do I do now? I tried ndiswrapper -i driver.inf but then it says: the program 'ndiswrapper' is not installed
[19:05] <Muelli> zoktar: so you want to delete a remote file? Or change permission bits?
[19:05] <zoktar> a nfs4 share to be more precise
[19:05] <icat> hi all, a quick sound question: I swapped the hdd from one machine to another, hw should be identical and everything works, expect for the sound ... ubuntu finds no sound devices in the new box. how can i run reconfiguration?
[19:05] <obi> praveen_: sudo fdisk -l
[19:06] <zoktar> as a normal user i can delete files, but not directorys created
[19:06] <deadmund> Sander__: You need to install ndiswrapper which means you need an internet connection temporarily.  Also, use ndisgtk  (it's graphical)
[19:06] <Muelli> icat: that sounds odd. How do you know that ubuntu doesn't find "sound devices"?
[19:06] <deadmund> Sander__: I'm here, I'm working on something at the same time so feel free to ping me.
[19:07] <hvq> hi, is it possible to have a shortcut for a favorite command? For eg, type editvim instead of vim $HOME/.vimrc
[19:07] <kieppie> hi guys
[19:08] <hvq> type installapp instead of sudo apt-get etc,
[19:08] <praveen_> obi No partitions on HDD is marked as boot. However, the USB drive is marked boot.
[19:08] <Muelli> zoktar: well. maybe the server is configured such that you cannot delete directories.. Or it is broken. Are you sure that elevating your (local) priviledges will enable you to delete directories?
[19:08] <icat> Muelli, xfce4-mixer only shows a "dummy sound device"
[19:08] <kieppie> the power management on my 12.04 is fairly limited & sometimes doesn't even kick in (no idea why). are there any other desktop tools I can use to tweak the various settings?
[19:08] <llutz> hvq: http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#alias
[19:08] <icat> alsamixer find nothing
[19:09] <Muelli> hvq: totally. Search for "bash alias".
[19:09] <escott> hvq, "alias editvim=vim $HOME/.vimrc"
[19:09] <icat> Muelli, sry, "Dummy output"
[19:09] <hvq> icat, Muelli, escott: thank you
[19:09] <obi> praveen_: sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda
[19:10] <Muelli> icat: hm. what does "sudo aplay -l" say? and pastebin us dmesg and sudo lspci -vv
[19:10] <zoktar> Muelli, yeah, i can delete the directorys as root on my system. this is how directorys created by the remote system look for me, drwxr-xr-x
[19:10] <praveen_> obi How can I install ms-sys ?
[19:11] <Sander__> deadmund: I have the files on my desktop now but I don't know what to do with them :S
[19:11] <bekks> zoktar: Which directory do you want to delete?
[19:11] <zoktar> Muelli, those created by the remote system within the shared directory
[19:11] <Muelli> zoktar: in order to be able to delete something in a directory, you need write permissions on it. So if you wanted to delete a directory in a directory, you'd need write permissions in that first directory. Do you have that?
[19:11] <vessou> obi, i do it , but no results.
[19:12] <obi> preveen_: Not installed? Did you simply try sudo apt-get install ms-sys (guessing)
[19:12] <vessou> obi, i do it , but no results.
[19:12] <zoktar> Muelli, yes drwxrwxrwx
[19:12] <Muelli> uff
[19:12] <obi> vessou: sorry, I'm no help then :(
[19:12] <vessou> i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:13] <Muelli> well zoktar. It seems like a server issue to me anyway. So I would try to get some debug output from the server side.
[19:13] <Muelli> vessou: how do you know that you lost mouse support?
[19:13] <zoktar> guess ill go hunt down the nfs setting :/
[19:14] <praveen_> obi I tried that and its not working
[19:14] <praveen_> No packages found.
[19:14] <obi> praveen_: Hmmm, one minute
[19:14] <praveen_> obi sure
[19:15] <icat> Muelli, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223162/
[19:15] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:15] <obi> praveen_: http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/#Download
[19:15] <icat> Muelli, I'd like to avoid a reinstall if possible
[19:16] <kieppie> *ping*
[19:16] <kieppie> anyone able to help with power management please?
[19:16] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:16] <Muelli> hm icat. Weird indeed. Looks like you don't have any soundcard at all... O_o
[19:16] <Muelli> vessou: how do you know that you lost mouse support?
[19:16] <Muelli> !anyone | kieppie
[19:17] <OerHeks> icat check your bios, is there an option for sound card  ~ AC97 / ~  digital sound ? try AC97
[19:17] <kieppie> the power management on my 12.04 is fairly limited & sometimes doesn't even kick in (no idea why). are there any other desktop tools I can use to tweak the various settings?
[19:17] <vessou> Muelli, my mouse do not move. it stays at the desktop center.
[19:17] <vessou> Muelli, can u help?
[19:17] <bulu> try (hd 0,0) EXT
[19:17] <bulu> hw  to slove this
[19:18] <vessou> bulu, what?
[19:18] <Muelli> kieppie: hm. you can dig with gconf-editor or dconf-editor. There is a settings path somewhere to fiddle with more advanced settings. Maybe gnome-tweak-tool helps.
[19:18] <Muelli> vessou: hm. sounds weird. Can you pastebin us "xinput --list"?
[19:18] <kieppie> Muelli - have done, but just curious re additional tools specific to pm
[19:18] <schreber> what would be the easiest way to modify how the day, month, & year are displayed in the top bar? I've looked in time & date settings and it doesn't seem apparent to me that it can be changed there.
[19:19] <vessou> bulu, is it for me?
[19:19] <bulu> try (hd 0,0) EXT  how  to solve this issues
[19:19] <Muelli> kieppie: I don't know any. Ther e is the interface to Linux, various knobs in /proc/ but I wouldn't know them all. Google might.
[19:19] <vessou> Muelli, i cannot select, i'll try to paste it here directly.
[19:19] <Muelli> schreber: adjust your LC_TIME variable.
[19:19] <Muelli> vessou: better not
[19:20] <Muelli> vessou: use smth like "xinput --list | pastebinit"
[19:20] <vessou> how can i do ? Muelli
[19:21] <praveen_> obi Now, I get the following "Windows 2000/XP/2003 master boot record successfully written to /dev/sda"
[19:21] <ClientAlive> I don't understand if I'm putting the right things in the right file for what I'm trying to do. Working with unison and trying to have a separate file contains preferences like "batchmerge =" and "backupcurr = " and so on (preferences of that type). So do I put those preferences in the file named: "common" Then put a line [Code]include common[/Code] in the file: "default.prf" ??
[19:22] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: are you sure that this is the channel you wanted?
[19:22] <ClientAlive> Well I'm running ubuntu 12.04 and unison runs on ubuntu, so I hope so  ;)
[19:23] <obi> praveen_: reboot?
[19:23] <icat> OerHeks, will do, thx
[19:23] <icat> Muelli, thx
[19:23] <praveen_> obi Let me check
[19:23] <ClientAlive> jrib: ?  vessou: ?
[19:24] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: I was asking because I haven't got the slightest idea what you were talking about :)
[19:24] <ClientAlive> gunbert: np  :)
[19:24] <ElDelQuinto> hello all
[19:24] <ClientAlive> google: "unison file synchronizer" (if it interests you)  :)
[19:24] <vessou> Muelli, ok, see at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223183
[19:25] <vessou> Muelli, ok, see at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223183
[19:25] <ElDelQuinto> i have a question of Asus Trace Free technology, by default is 20%, is it better with 100%?
[19:25] <CRF_H0M3R> I'm having trouble with Empathy for the Messenger, anyone having it too?
[19:25] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: I suppose you have seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Unison already?
[19:25] <gamerzlod> hi @ll
[19:25] <demonoid_com> hello guys
[19:25] <demonoid_com> :)
[19:25] <Muelli> hm vessou. You don't have an input device.  That's terrible. Have you, by any chance, pressed a hardware button of some sort? My tablet has a "disable touchpad" button...
[19:26] <Muelli> !anyone | CRF_H0M3R
[19:26] <demonoid_com> sombody can tell some good books for linux kernel?
[19:26] <ClientAlive> gunbert: No, I don't think I have. I'll take some time to peek at it. Thx
[19:26] <TJ-> demonoid_com: The kernel source!
[19:27] <demonoid_com> TJ-: this is a book :)?
[19:27] <CRF_H0M3R> Muelli: ?
[19:27] <demonoid_com> TJ-:or is the kernel source :DD
[19:27] <TJ-> demonoid_com: The point is... the kernel evolves so rapidly that any book on it is going out-of-date as soon as it is printed
[19:28] <guntbert_> !tab > ClientAlive
[19:29] <demonoid_com> TJ-:aaa ok :) but i'm beginner with the kernel :) i mean i need start from some books
[19:29] <demonoid_com> TJ-:or no?
[19:29] <ClientAlive> sorry guntbert_  I had heard of that feature but never learned how to use it. I just did use in right now tho and it's easy - thanks  :)
[19:29] <TJ-> demonoid_com: I'd highly recommend the kernel newbies web-site, forums,  and mailing-list. http://kernelnewbies.org/
[19:30] <praveen_> obi Its not working without USB stick. Without USB stick it asks to select a boot medium. With USB stick, it boots correctly.
[19:30] <cielak> guys, anyone knowledgable about Xorg? I need a hand troubleshooting it
[19:31] <guntbert_> ClientAlive: no need to be sorry, only: someone gets alerted that you are talking to them only when you use the nick
[19:31] <vessou> Muelli, i do not do it.
[19:31] <vessou> Muelli, ?
[19:31] <praveen_> obi Still the fdisk shows its not bootable.
[19:31] <demonoid_com> TJ-:10x :)
[19:31] <bekks> praveen_: That display is irrelevant since 15 years :)
[19:32] <vessou> Muelli, ?
[19:32] <Muelli> vessou: what?
[19:32] <obi> praveen_: sh*t, i guess i am at a loss. I will keep searching thinking. What does it show for available devices? This a fresh install?
[19:32] <praveen_> bekks What do you meant by that?
[19:32] <no_gravity> Hello Everybody! What do you use to play your music on ubuntu?
[19:32] <TJ-> demonoid_com: but also, just clone the git repository for the Linux kernel and dip in... maybe start in the Documentation/ directory for some explanations of key features, then skim-read-scan some source code to get a feel for the style we use in writing it
[19:32] <bekks> praveen_: That it doesnt matter wether there is a boot flag set or not nowadays.
[19:32] <OpenbsdVbox> !vlc | no_gravity
[19:32] <Muelli> vessou: so you don't have a button for disabling the touchpad?
[19:33] <goddard> how do i setup thundbird with ssl
[19:33] <Troy^> what is the quick shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[19:33] <goddard> it isn't working
[19:33] <praveen_> obi: It shows the available devices as cd drive, network boot and HDD. Yes, its a fresh install.
[19:33] <Muelli> cielak: hm. What's your issue?
[19:33] <Muelli> goddard: how do you know?
[19:33] <vessou> exactly, Muelli.
[19:33] <TJ-> praveen_: If a fresh install only boots when the USB stick is plugged in, that tells us that the GRUB boot-loader was installed to the wrong device. That is relatively easy to fix
[19:33] <goddard> Muelli: how do i know what? it isn't working ? because it says its the wrong password
[19:33] <praveen_> bekks Okay.
[19:33] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:33] <cielak> Muelli: it fails to start on a fresh install, it says 'Screens found, but none has a usable configuration'
[19:34] <Muelli> goddard: so maybe you provided a wrong password then ;-)
[19:34] <praveen_> TJ- How can I fix that?
[19:34] <shomon> goddard, look up the connection info from your email provider if there is any
[19:34] <Lator0066> susi111
[19:34] <Evdb> bekks: hey are you still here?
[19:34] <obi> praveen_: No, I mean when running sudo fdisk -l
[19:34] <ClientAlive> guntbert_ Right on. Well, I thought I had this unison thing right but stilll getting an error. I'll have to come back here later when I can work on it again. Anyhow, have a good one man.
[19:34] <shomon> or is it just google or something - in which case there should be a few guides
[19:34] <goddard> already did that still not working and the password is correct
[19:34] <goddard> shomon: cpanel shows me all the settings
[19:34] <shomon> is it sending email okay?
[19:34] <cielak> Muelli: It looks like the 'intel' driver finds no modes
[19:34] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that doesn't sound too good. I think there used to be a "xserver-config" (or smth similar) program which would provide reasonable defaults. But I thought that it was obsolete nowadays. What machine do you have?
[19:35] <Muelli> vessou: hm. weird then. It's seriously weird. Maybe you have disabled some kernel modules? Could it be a hardware issue?
[19:35] <cielak> Muelli: that's a asus 1225c netbook
[19:35] <goddard> shomon: there is an ssl domain and a regular domain when doing testing the regular domain works perfectly with thunderbirds auto detect just not ssl which i have to enter manuall
[19:35] <Muelli> cielak: have you researched whether other people have trouble with it?
[19:35] <praveen_> obi There is no menu.lst in the grub folder.
[19:36] <cielak> Muelli: yeah, and lot, and none of issues found are the one I experience
[19:36] <Evdb> bekks: hello?
[19:36] <shomon> I usually mess a bit with settings when setting that up.. usually some combination or other works..
[19:36] <OpenbsdVbox> praveen_: menu'lst is for grub1
[19:36] <vessou> Muelli, i do not no. it happened after upgrading ubuntu10.10 to ubuntu12.04.
[19:36] <TJ-> praveen_: If the system is started, identify the device-name of the hard disk and ensure GRUB's "/boot/grub/device.map" (if present) is set correctly, and do "sudo update-grub". Best thing is to check the devices first, then we can help you sort it out
[19:36] <Muelli> goddard: make sure you're using the correct ports. Thunderbird has a weird behaviour when making an account use SSL after the account was set up. It keeps the standard, non crypto ports as opposed to the crypto ports.
[19:36] <obi> praveen_: open a terminal and enter "sudo fdisk -l" and tell me what devices are shown
[19:36] <vessou> Muelli, i do not no. it happened after upgrading ubuntu10.10 to ubuntu12.04.
[19:36] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:36] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's bad. Can you boot a pendrive or a CD?
[19:37] <Muelli> vessou: can you boot a pendrive and check whether your mouse works?
[19:37] <obi> praveen_: we are looking for your main partition /dev/sda(x)
[19:37] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: how did you upgrade? directly? or from release to release?
[19:37] <Muelli> vessou: what are you having anyway? Mouse? Touchpad?
[19:37] <praveen_> obi Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders, total 976773168 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes Disk identifier: 0x000ea18d     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sda1            2048   968949759   484473856   83  Linux /dev/sda2
[19:37] <Evdb> Ah damn I need so much help
[19:37] <cielak> Muelli: only CLI systems, as X always fails to start - but I have a fully working CLI in the Ubuntu I have already installed
[19:37] <Troy^> What is the unity shortcut keys to switch between workspaces?
[19:37] <Evdb> Any Mac Ubuntu people here??
[19:38] <OpenbsdVbox> Troy^: hold down super to see the shortcuts
[19:38] <Muelli> so cielak: You cannot boot any Ubuntu? Not even a fresh one from a CD?
[19:38] <praveen_> obi It shows sda, sda1, sda2, sda5, sdb
[19:38] <Evdb> Mac Ubuntu people?
[19:38] <guntbert_> Evdb: just ask your rela question and prepare for patience :)
[19:38] <Muelli> Troy^: there is a settings menu that'll show you all shortcuts. Try Ctrl+Alt+Up
[19:38] <guntbert_> *real
[19:38] <TJ-> !pastebin | praveen_
[19:38] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, directly. with a usb key created
[19:38] <Evdb> I really really need help and I've been trying for 1 hour no to get help
[19:38] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you likely broke your system then
[19:38] <cielak> Muelli: LiveCD gets stuck with a black screen and cursor blinking, both 12.04 and 12.10, I managed to install Ubuntu with alternate install image
[19:39] <Evdb> Have typed my problems 5 times now :(
[19:39] <TJ-> praveen_: Show us the result of this command:  " egrep '\[sd[[:alpha:]]\] [[:digit:]]+' /var/log/dmesg  "
[19:39] <Evdb> Before I explain again, are there Mac Ubuntu people here?
[19:39] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you can't upgrade from 10.10 directly to 12.04, it isn't supported
[19:39] <vessou> Muelli, what is prenvide cd
[19:39] <gabrieluk> hi, what is correct  sudo apt-get install  libapache2-mod-fastcgi or  sudo apt-get install  libapache2-mod-fcgid ?
[19:39] <obi> praveen_: which has the most blocks and what is listed under it's system
[19:40] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's very bad. If you cannot get a live cd running, chances are very bad anyway for the installed system to run properly. Can you try some other GNU/Linux like Fedora?
[19:40] <Muelli> !livecd | vessou
[19:40] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, it proposed it me at installation.
[19:40] <Evdb> I get 'no prefix set'
[19:40] <Muelli> !usb | vessou or use USB
[19:40] <cielak> Muelli: I have tried some, but the problem persists, as all these distros have a common problem with Xorg
[19:40] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you certian it was 10.10?
[19:41] <Evdb> Which thing should I select in rEFIt??
[19:41] <no_gravity> What do you guys use to manage playlists?
[19:41] <cielak> Muelli: what is interesting, in some countries this very same machine ships with Ubuntu preinstalled
[19:41] <praveen_> obi here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223219/
[19:41] <Muelli> cielak: hm. that's weird then. So which Fedora have you tried?
[19:41] <Evdb> Or should I just hold option key and choose 'windows'
[19:41] <Diane> Don't know how this works so.... My Lucid version on my laptop is totally messed up and I can't back up my files.  If I reinstall will I get a chance to do so?
[19:41] <ampd> Evdb: usb hdd
[19:41] <Evdb> ampd: what do you mean?
[19:41] <cielak> Muelli: I am not sure the exact version, I had a USB drive with it I made few months ago
[19:41] <ampd> Evdb: nevermind, though you were talking about something else
[19:42] <cielak> may chech that
[19:42] <Evdb> nope
[19:42] <Evdb> But please someone...
[19:42] <ampd> Evdb: whats the issue?
[19:42] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, exactly, i'm very certain. try.
[19:42] <praveen_> TJ-  Here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223223/
[19:42] <Evdb> ampd: I am trying to install Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro
[19:42] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: then it shouldn't have offered, it isn't supported
[19:42] <Evdb> I installed rEFIt
[19:42] <Evdb> tampd: I installed rEFIt
[19:42] <Muelli> cielak: hm. It looks like a bigger problem anyway. You could file a bug against either linux or xserver-xorg. It probably wouldn't help much though.
[19:42] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: the only way to skip releases is from lts to lts
[19:42] <TJ-> praveen_: So, /dev/sda is the internal 500GB hard-drive where you installed Ubuntu to, and /dev/sdb is a 8GB USB stick?
[19:42] <vessou> ubottu, i'm not a novice in usblive.
[19:43] <obi> praveen_: ok, enter sudo ms-sys -m /dev/sda2 and restart
[19:43] <Muelli> cielak: can you pastebin sudo lspi -vv ?
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: I first burnt a DVD, that didn't work at all
[19:43] <praveen_> TJ- Yes. thats right
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: then bekks here said I should burn a CD
[19:43] <ampd> Evdb: to install ubuntu with refit?
[19:43] <Evdb> I can start it up but get a 'prefix not set'
[19:43] <Evdb> ampd: ye
[19:44] <Evdb> ampd: I can select try without installing but I get black screen with the cursor
[19:44] <cielak> Muelli: I have always found Xord devs *very* unrespondive :( I will in a sec (need to move the data from the other machine, I am now writhing from another Ubuntu on another machine - and no 'sudo' needed as my netbook is running only in recovery mode) :)
[19:44] <ampd> Evdb: hmm, i used refit a few years ago, let me see what i can find out
[19:44] <vessou> llutz,i just upgraded my ubuntu 12.04, and it lost mouse support. can someone help me please? this passed on my Aspire one D270-268bb machine.
[19:44] <Evdb> ampd: I really need to get this working for school :s
[19:44] <praveen_> obi I get this message. "/dev/sda2 seems to be a disk partition device, use the switch -f to force writing of a master boot record". Should I force to do it?
[19:44] <Muelli> vessou: what are you having anyway? Mouse? Touchpad?
[19:44] <Muelli> vessou: can you boot a pendrive and check whether your mouse works?
[19:44] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you need to reinstall fresh
[19:44] <TJ-> praveen_: Run this command and tell us if it gives you a strange-looking line with dots and the word "GRUB" in it? " sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:45] <TJ-> praveen_: E.g. something like this:  00000180  7d e8 2e 00 cd 18 eb fe  47 52 55 42 20 00 47 65  |}.......GRUB .Ge|
[19:45] <obi> praveen_: yes, that is the same message I got when I did this last week and i proceeded
[19:45] <Diane> LINUX LUCID RUINED....CAN'T BACK UP FILES~~CAN I DO SO WHILE REINSTALLING?
[19:45] <vessou> Muelli, mouse!
[19:45] <OpenbsdVbox> !caps | Diane
[19:45] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, what's fresh?
[19:45] <obi> praveen_: I know this problem/solution only from my experience, not from knowledge lol
[19:45] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: fresh install
[19:45] <Diane> sorry
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Diane: boot from your install media, do "Try Ubuntu without installing", back up anything you want to keep, then run the installer
[19:46] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: a new install
[19:46] <praveen_> TJ- I get the following output.
[19:46] <praveen_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223232/
[19:46] <TJ-> praveen_: obi Installing GRUB to a partition is *not* a good idea... It needs to be installed to the disk's MBR to be bootable from BIOS
[19:46] <gordonjcp> Diane: also, try and install /home on a separate partition to save this nonsense next time
[19:46] <Diane> it won't let me and says I don't have permission to view file in home folder
[19:46] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, help me. hw can i remove and install it?
[19:46] <praveen_> TJ- Okay
[19:46] <Evdb> bekks: you already back?
[19:47] <TJ-> praveen_: Thank-you. The lack of output confirms that GRUB is *not* installed to the hard drive. Now let's do the same test on the USB stick just to be sure we knw where it is...
[19:47] <gordonjcp> Diane: you probably need to do it as root
[19:47] <obi> TJ-: Ok, you take over :) Peace  praveen_:
[19:47] <bekks> Evdb: I wasnt away.
[19:47] <TJ-> praveen_: " sudo dd if=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: oh okay
[19:47] <ampd> Evdb: you're getting it before refit or during ubuntu bot?
[19:47] <ampd> *boot
[19:47] <OpenbsdVbox> !install | vessou
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: during boot
[19:47] <Evdb> bekks: i choose the penguin in refit
[19:47] <praveen_> TJ- I get that expected output in USB
[19:48] <Evdb> bekks: i get eroor prefix not set, I can choose try without installing but then the black screen and cursor appear
[19:48] <cielak> Muelli: do have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223237/
[19:48] <Diane> Gordon-- do it as root??
[19:48] <TJ-> praveen_: Good. That confirms what I had assumed. Now we'll sort things out... Give me a moment whilst I check the procedure locally so I give you the correct advice
[19:48] <Evdb> ampd: i get eroor prefix not set, I can choose try without installing but then the black screen and cursor appear
[19:48] <praveen_> TJ- Okay.
[19:48] <Muelli> hm cielak. So integrated Atom graphics. I think I have that, too.
[19:49] <Evdb> bekks: i tried buring on CD but I still have major problems
[19:49] <cielak> Muelli: exactly
[19:49] <Muelli> cielak: can you also paste your recent Xorg.0.log?
[19:49] <cielak> Muelli: sure! I guess this log is actually more interesting
[19:49] <bekks> Evdb: Does that CD boot on another computer?
[19:50] <Evdb> bekks: no idea actually
[19:50] <TJ-> praveen_: "sudo grub-install /dev/sda"
[19:50] <cielak> Muelli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223242/
[19:50] <vessou> OpenbsdVbox, what's the fresh goal? hw can i use fresh?
[19:51] <cielak> Muelli: of course the ending has most tips
[19:51] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: you need to reinstall
[19:51] <OpenbsdVbox> vessou: a new install
[19:51] <praveen_> TJ- Completed that command. Shall I reboot and check?
[19:51] <TJ-> praveen_: Now check you can see GRUB in the master boot record. We'll read it again:  " sudo dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 | hexdump -C | grep GRUB "
[19:51] <Muelli> cielak: are you trying to boot with a second monitor attached?
[19:52] <cielak> Muelli: nope... unless a second screen is hidden within the netbook, lol :)
[19:52] <vessou> ok , i understand.
[19:52] <praveen_> TJ- Yes, Now I get the "GRUB" (expected output) with that command.
[19:52] <Muelli> cielak: hm. do you know how to edit the boot parameters for Linux from GRUB? You could try to fiddle with the modeset argument.
[19:52] <Unname> hi
[19:53] <Muelli> cielak: again, sorry, what machine do you have/
[19:53] <Unname> i have an ubuntu client successfuly connected to an openwrt openvpn server
[19:53] <TJ-> praveen_: Go ahead and reboot. Remove the USB (obviously!) ... I think you'll be OK but I'll wait around to hear
[19:53] <Unname> but i cannot ping it
[19:53] <cielak> Muelli: yeah, I am familiar with these tricks... any ideas what parameters are worth trying?
[19:53] <cielak> Muelli: that's a asus 1225c
[19:53] <praveen_> TJ- Okay.
[19:54] <Muelli> cielak: and well, just to double check, you don't have anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, right?
[19:55] <praveen_> TJ- Now that works!!!
[19:55] <praveen_> TJ- Thanks a lot... Your great!!!
[19:55] <cielak> Muelli: I am trying both without a xorg.conf and both with a simple config in there, but there is no difference in result
[19:56] <praveen_> obi: Thanks for your help!
[19:56] <Evdb> ampd: found anything?
[19:56] <ccallahan> I have a Type 2007 Lenovo ThinkPad T60p running a AMD Mobility FireGL V5250. I tried installing the fglrx drivers, but amdconfig says it can't detect anything. I am running Ubuntu 12.04. (lspci: http://sprunge.us/NGIe) (fglrxinfo output: http://sprunge.us/XXbN)
[19:56] <Evdb> bekks: will reinstalling refit work?
[19:56] <Evdb> And why using refit if you can boot from cd holding option key?
[19:57] <Muelli> cielak: does the driver, gma500_gfx show up in lsmod?
[19:57] <TJ-> praveen_: Glad you're sorted
[19:57] <ampd> Evdb: as far as i can tell its an ubuntu issue and not refit
[19:57] <e4g> Anyone know of a simple utility to help setup multi-boot systems (multi-linux systems, no windows/mac)?
[19:57] <cielak> Muelli: yup, it does
[19:57] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: why not use the open source drivers?
[19:57] <ampd> Evdb: can you try reinstalling ubuntu?
[19:57] <Evdb> ampd: I haven,'t installed it yet
[19:57] <Muelli> hm. so cielak, I would try to boot twice, once with "gma500_gfx.modeset=1" and once with =0. Make sure to preserve the logs.
[19:58] <ccallahan> I am trying to run Star Trek Online, and the shaders are fubar using the out-of-the-box drivers.
[19:58] <cielak> Muelli: okay, I will try that
[19:58] <Muelli> cielak: maybe a dmesg would also be interesting. Maybe the driver reported somethign
[19:58] <praveen_> TJ- I am new to linux and trying to learn a lot day by day...
[19:58] <obi> praveen_: I wasn't much help, but sure :)
[19:58] <xangua> e4g: i use this http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[19:58] <ampd> Evdb: so you're getting the error after you click on linux in refit?
[19:58] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: well fglrx probably doesn't support your old card anymore
[19:58] <TJ-> praveen_: You'll soon be a maestro!
[19:58] <ampd> Evdb: and you don't have ubuntu installed?
[19:58] <praveen_> TJ- Thank you...
[19:58] <cielak> Muelli: indeed, I forgot to check dmesg for tips... :)
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: yeah, I get different options, tried them all aznd I don't yet have Ubuntu
[19:59] <ccallahan> Is there anything else I can use besides the out-of-the-box drivers?
[19:59] <Evdb> amps: can't get it to work
[19:59] <ccallahan> OpenbsdVbox: ^
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: *can't get it to worjk
[19:59] <OpenbsdVbox> ccallahan: no idea, i'm rather happy with the open source ones
[19:59] <Muelli> cielak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo/
[19:59] <ampd> Evdb: are you trying to install 64bit?
[19:59] <Evdb> ampd: yeah
[20:00] <Evdb> ampd: intel processor
[20:00] <e4g> xangua: English version of that site?
[20:00] <xangua> e4g: the google translate toolbar is right up there
[20:00] <cielak> Muelli: yup, I have found that page too, but the trick is that I already am on 12.10, my kernel is 3.5, so that all should work automagically. Testing modeset=1
[20:01] <OpenbsdVbox> cielak: 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[20:01] <ampd> Evdb: according to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1945850 the 32 bit version may work
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: can try it yeah, pretty lmuch lost my fate by now but I'll try
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: my last hope
[20:03] <Evdb> ampd: or I should try installing an earlier version
[20:03] <ampd> Evdb: i dont think that would help
[20:03] <cielak> Muelli: modeset=1 is a good trail. after starting X it hung for a minute or two, then I was greeted with a full-screen nautilus in 320x240, yeah! :) but at least that's something to start with
[20:03] <Muelli> \o
[20:03] <Muelli> \o/
[20:04] <Evdb> ampd: I'll go burn 32-bit now, will stick around here in the progress
[20:04] <ampd> Evdb: the other (probably better) at this point option would be just to use virtualbox in osx
[20:04] <cielak> Muelli: huge thanks for your time! :)
[20:04] <Muelli> cielak: does dmesg say anything interesting?
[20:04] <Evdb> ampd: yeah but the teachers want it to run native :/
[20:04] <cielak> Muelli: hadn't yet chance to check, I was unable to reach any TTY
[20:05] <ampd> Evdb: what are you doing that it would matter?
[20:05] <ampd> Evdb: if you dont mind me asking
[20:06] <Evdb> ampd: I just started studying applied informatics (literally translated lol something IT with programming and stuff) and we are gonna explore Ubuntu
[20:06] <hvq> hi, is it possible to swap ctrl+c and ctrl+shift+c function in terminal?
[20:06] <Evdb> ampd: my teachers think it's a great OS, and we are gonna do scripting and what not
[20:06] <Ileden> Problem: My netbook loses it's WLAN capability after a random amount of time. It still sees all the networks, and tries to connect to them, but fails (promprts for authentication key). This does happen in the middle of using the WLAN. A reboot always fixes the issue. This does not happen in Win7 (dualboot). Attaching a different WLAN device does connect. This only started to do this after 12.04 update. Any idea how to debug this?
[20:07] <Muelli> hvq: probably. But that'd be very very awkward. Having Ctrl+C *not* seding SIGINT would be *very* unsual.
[20:07] <Muelli> Ileden: see "dmesg" output. Or the logs in /var/log/
[20:07] <ampd> Evdb: even more reason to use virtualization, so you don't screw anything important up. but i guess its up to the teacher. Let me know how 32-bit works. I'd also just use a USB stick so you dont have to burn all these cds
[20:07] <cielak> Muelli: actually.. it says something very interesting - it says that I used an incorrect parameter for 'gma500_gfx.modeset'... but I will let it complain, just managed to see unity, so this must be working!
[20:07] <hvq> Muelli: ok. another question: is there anyway to assign a shortcut to move the current window to the left and make it maxheight and halfwidth
[20:08] <jrib> hvq: maybe with wmctrl
[20:08] <Muelli> hvq: yes. There is a shortcut menu that will list you all of the shortcut. Somewhere in system settings. Try Super+Left.
[20:09] <hvq> Muelli: I belive that's the default one, but somehow it doesnt work on my computer. where can I fix this?
[20:09] <TJ-> Ileden: Tell us which Wifi device it is: "lspci -nn | egrep -i '(net|wire)'  "
[20:09] <Ileden> Muelli: I do have dmesg output captured from the disconnect. Which logs should I be looking at.
[20:09] <Muelli> hvq: yes. There is a shortcut menu that will list and set all of the shortcut.
[20:09] <bugamn> hello
[20:10] <hvq> Muelli: found it, thanx
[20:11] <Evdb> ampd: burning 32-bit fingers crossed
[20:13] <Ileden> TJ-: The device is 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2427 802.11bg Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) [168c:002c] (rev 01)
[20:13] <Ileden> TJ-: dmesg output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223290/
[20:14] <TJ-> Ileden: I thought it might be! Someone else this week had the same device and the exact same problem. Turns out its a bug but it hasn't been fixed yet. Let me look it up
[20:14] <hvq> Muelli: sorry but I think I didnt find the right one. What I need is to make a window appear on the left hand side of the screen, it has maximum height and the width is exactly half of screen width
[20:14] <bugamn> does anyone know if there is a way to disable unity's shortcuts temporaryly?
[20:14] <Ileden> TJ-: wow! rare :)
[20:16] <Muelli> hvq: yep. works for me with Super+Left. But I'm also using GNOME-Shell. Dunno whether unity offers that feature. If you want to use gnome-shell, you can do apt-get install gnome-session.
[20:16] <Ileden> TJ-: Perhaps bug  #994213
[20:16] <Ileden> ah. no
[20:18] <gunarm1> Ileden, i am having problems with my atheros wifi card too, where i would lose connection every few minutes (but I could reconnect).  But i think the solution is SUPPOSED to be to download compat-wireless and do a make && sudo make install and reboot
[20:18] <bonno> hi.. why when i complete remove a program (terminal or synaptic)  some directories and some files in those directories keep staying there after the removal?
[20:19] <TJ-> Ileden: The one I'm thinking of didn't involve rfkill ... still looking!
[20:19] <Mink09_> Looking for a simple way to lose the desktop that came with 12.04, in favor of a previous version. Suggestions pls?
[20:20] <notze> install windows
[20:20] <jrib> bonno: unless you use "purge", apt will keep configurations around so you don't lose your settings if you decide to reinstall the application later
[20:20] <guntbert_> bonno: yes, thats the default, if you want to get rid of them as well, use purge instead of remoov
[20:20] <guntbert_> *remove
[20:20] <Ileden> TJ-: Bug #773154 ?
[20:20] <bonno> purge is only for terminal..what is the alt on synaptic?
[20:20] <dr_willis> apt will not touch settings in the users homes either. ;-)
[20:20] <kunji> bonno: It's because configuration is left in case you wanted to install it again latter, as jrib says, try using purge (sudo apt-get purge [package name])
[20:20] <Mink09_> notze thats not it
[20:21] <OerHeks> notze see bug #1
[20:21] <jrib> bonno: "complete removal"
[20:21] <Ileden> TJ-: Or Bug #1014263 ?
[20:21] <TJ-> Ileden: It was related to the "nohwcrypt" parameter being required to disable using the chips' hardware encryption engine
[20:21] <bonno> i do that.. still the same problem..i click complete removal..
[20:21] <bonno> :/
[20:21] <kunji> lol, bug #1
[20:21] <jrib> bonno: what files are we talking about, specifically?
[20:22] <bonno> some are in the home directory.. some in the home/config
[20:22] <TJ-> Ileden: Is your device using the ath5k driver? ("sudo lspci -vvvnn -s 02:00.0" )
[20:22] <dr_willis> i just said files in the users home will never get touched by apt.
[20:22] <guntbert_> bonno: those files will never ge removed by the system
[20:22] <guntbert_> *get
[20:23] <Ileden> TJ-: Hey, hmm, I recall having a problems some years ago with the same device and one specific WLAN station, and one solution I ended up trying was somehow related to nohwcrypt parameter... (never got it fixed, though)
[20:23] <dr_willis> thats a feature. :)
[20:23] <bonno> so what should i do if i want all of the program's files out?
[20:23] <kunji> bonno: umm, hmm, yeah that happens sometimes, you're probably fine to just manually delete them, but I couldn't say for sure without knowing more.  They were probably created by the package/program when it ran, rather than installed by apt.
[20:23] <Ileden> TJ-: Kernel driver in use: ath9k ?
[20:23] <dr_willis> bonno:  users are responsible for their own files in their home
[20:24] <guntbert_> bonno: what is your problem with those files?
[20:24] <kunji> guntbert_: probably just that they're unused clutter
[20:24] <dr_willis> uninwtalling an app to reset a useres settings is a windows mindset thing.
[20:25] <ElixirVitae> I am glad I came accross brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[20:25] <kunji> dr_willis: true, but it's sometimes the way to go when you really mangle something (like I did to my soundsystem, lol)
[20:25] <guntbert_> kunji: forget it, they rarely take up much space
[20:25] <jrib> bonno: if you don't want them, delete them.  But they don't hurt anything if you just leave them there
[20:25] <ElixirVitae> also, here is a interesting one, downvoted to oblivion, implemented nonetheless
[20:26] <Acromartsu> Hello
[20:26] <dr_willis> howdys
[20:26] <guntbert_> bonno: instead of deleting the just rename them - so you can check what went wrong
[20:26] <bonno> i know.. but it bothers me :P so many dir in there
[20:26] <L3top> bonno: what I would do is move them somplace else temporarily... see if there are any negative effects... and then after a week or so, delete them... as I have no idea what files you are talking about.
[20:26] <dr_willis> i make an old-settings dir to move stuff to if i want to reset things
[20:27] <L3top> bonno: word to the wise... do not use /tmp directory... it is deleted every boot
[20:27] <bonno> L3top  lol
[20:28] <Acromartsu> Guys, sorry for asking a little off-topic question, but do you guys use Rescue CD's? I made a Live CD of some Distro's, and now I want to make an AV rescue CD, but I don't know which one to pick. Any suggestions?
[20:28] <kunji> AV?
[20:28] <TJ-> Ileden: darn! probably a different cause then, unless there's a systemic issue with the recent Atheros code!
[20:28] <Acromartsu> Av = AntiVirus
[20:28] <bonno> so there isnt anything else except deleting them manually on my own.. :P
[20:28] <Acromartsu> kunji, AV => Anti Virus
[20:28] <dr_willis> Acromartsu: avg had A live cd on thir homepage at one time
[20:28] <guntbert_> Acromartsu: why do you ask when you know it is off topic in a support channel?
[20:29] <kunji> Pretty much any live cd should be fine, no?  Though there's probably specialized ones.
[20:29] <kunji> If you wanted you could go with one of the forensics ones
[20:29] <dr_willis> there are. but av software really should be kept up to date.
[20:29] <Acromartsu> guntbert, because I cannot find any irc channels that answer my question(s), nor a webpage that is sufficiently informative. There's a BackTrack irc for instance, but nobody is active in there...
[20:30] <Acromartsu> and guntbert, because this is the Ubuntu channel, which is still Linux-related and I know it's populated
[20:30] <kunji> dr_willis: yeah, I would just make a live USB on demand for something like that I think
[20:30] <guntbert_> Acromartsu: it is still off topic here - you can try to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:30] <dr_willis> you can install av software to ram from  a cd.   ot use a live usb
[20:30] <bekks> Acromartsu: I havent heard of linux viruses in the wild yet.
[20:30] <bekks> Personally, I dont need an AV rescue cd.
[20:31] <kunji> bekks: Probably to rescue other comps, or he dual boots or something
[20:31] <dr_willis> i only use them to scan windows stuff. ;)
[20:31] <Ileden> TJ-: Oh well. :/
[20:31] <Acromartsu> bekks, I know, I'm going to use Linux when I get my new computer, but right now I'm making love CDs to help other non-tech-savvy people
[20:31] <bonno> making love CD's
[20:31] <bonno> haha
[20:31] <Ileden> TJ-: do you think I should report this somewhere?
[20:31] <TJ-> Ileden: so back to those log-files! Do you have a /var/log/kern.log that covers a period when the issue occurred?
[20:32] <Acromartsu> So apart from a forensics app and an OS to use on-the-go (Ubuntu) I also want an AV CD
[20:32]  * bekks grabs his "No. I will NOT fix your Windows."-tshirt and sits back on the channel sofa to let the OT pass by.
[20:32] <TJ-> Ileden: Let's see if we can narrow it down first
[20:32] <Ileden> TJ-: Let's see. I using the netbook currently on a session that had the wlan problem some half-hour ago.
[20:33] <tenX> bekks: you wont fix my windows because you are always busy keeping your linux running :>
[20:34] <bekks> tenX: Somehow I have to waste my time while watching my Solaris keep running :>
[20:34] <TJ-> Ileden: If you know the time, check the log-file for the time you think it occurred. I'd like to see log entries for -/+ 2 minutes either side... if you can get them and pastebin them that would be really helpful. Use "log file viewer" to open the log-file and check the log.
[20:34] <daslinkard> Hello room!
[20:34] <bekks> And now back to the topic please :)
[20:34] <Ileden> TJ-: Yes, found it.
[20:34] <tenX> bekks: acceptable
[20:34] <henry_> mmmmmm
[20:34] <daslinkard> If an install of Ubuntu is botched for a dual boot and every time the PC is restarted....it asks for the Windows installer cd....is there a work around for this?
[20:35] <henry_> probando
[20:35] <fredfuchs> JEEZES CHRIST THERES SO MANY PEOPLE HERE
[20:35] <kunji> Acromartsu: what are you expecting this cd to do that would be on the others?  Run Antivirus software?
[20:35] <kunji> daslinkard: yeah, check out the grub2 documentation
[20:36] <rolling2k><PHONE_NUMBER>807497 0714 132 APPROVED! BANK: |BANK_ONE,_N.A._-_DEBIT|DEBIT|CLASSIC|UNITED_STATES_OF_AMERICA|800-291-5165
[20:37] <Ileden> TJ-: Entries before and after the failure in /var/log/kern.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223328/
[20:37] <daslinkard> kunji: Thank you
[20:37] <hvq> Muelli: it has been moved to ctrl+super+left/right, thanx
[20:37] <ampd> Evdb: update? did the 32-bit install work?\
[20:38] <jrib> rolling2k: welcome back...
[20:38] <rolling2k> hehe
[20:39] <Ileden> TJ-:  The log kept on going with the same failure message s
[20:39] <Ileden> TJ-:  The log kept on going with the same failure messages for a few more minutes.
[20:39] <kunji> daslinkard: np, I'm sure someone will be able to help if it's still giving you problems after trying to recover GRUB2
[20:39] <TJ-> Ileden: Looking
[20:40] <Ileden> TJ-: And it seems it's still going at it, says "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" :)
[20:40] <TJ-> Ileden: That log looks familar, I'll dig some more!
[20:42] <Scunizi> .
[20:42] <gunarm1> is there a command that will add up how much space is in a directory tree?
[20:42] <gunarm1> used*
[20:43] <kunji> Unname: Hmm, have you checked that ICMP is being allowed all the way through and that the server responds to other ICMP requests?
[20:43] <guntbert> gunarm1: du -sh /path/to/the/directory     will tell you
[20:43] <Ileden> gunarm1: du -h <path>
[20:43] <TJ-> Ileden: Have you installed VirtualBox ?
[20:43] <Scunizi> I just loaded the server image in a vBox VM and would like to add a minimal Desktop without all the typical packages that come with the desktop.. How do I go about that?
[20:43] <gunarm1> ty
[20:43] <Ileden> TJ-: not to my knowledge...
[20:43] <Unname> kunji, now i can ping it (i had to enable the lzo compression on client)
[20:44] <Unname> but i cannot reach the remote subnet
[20:44] <Unname> i'm adding a rule in the firewall
[20:44] <Unname> to forward the lan to vpn
[20:44] <guntbert> !enter | Unname
[20:44] <Unname> sorry
[20:44] <kunji> Unname: Hmm, ok, sounds like you've got it under control ^_^
[20:44] <Ileden> gunarm1: yes, du -hs indeed. and if you want more detail, for example du -h --max-depth=2
[20:44] <Unname> i'll tell you
[20:45] <gunarm1> Ileden, very cool, thanks
[20:46] <gunarm1> when I am very limited on space (laptop ssd) what is the minimum size partition I should be able to get away with for "/"?
[20:47] <alii_> Hhallo dear cyber frends
[20:47] <TJ-> Ileden: Does this happen only after putting the PC into suspend? Or after a cold boot?
[20:47] <guntbert> gunarm1: depends on what you intend to do with that system
[20:49] <Ileden> TJ-: Good question. I do use susped quite a lot.
[20:49] <Ileden> TJ-: So I'm only sure that it does happen after suspend.
[20:50] <Ileden> TJ-: Wait, no. This time I did boot up cold, and it did occur, so happes both ways.
[20:51] <TJ-> Ileden: I see a bugzilla RedHat report that suggests it can be solved by changing the device's power-save settings. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?format=multiple&id=815377
[20:53] <Ileden> TJ-: Hmm, does look promising. Any idea how I disable the power management for the wifi card?
[20:54] <Ileden> Wait, probably in the therad...
[20:54] <Ileden> I'll read though.
[20:54] <Ileden> (duh)
[20:55] <Scunizi> what package do I need for a minimal desktop environment?  I've already installed server.
[20:55] <Ileden> Yup, there it is. "iwconfig wlanX power off" and "iw dev wlanX set power_save off"
[20:55] <TJ-> Ileden: comment #2 of that report (iwconfig ... or iw dev ...)
[20:56] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: depends how minimal
[20:56] <bekks> Scunizi: lubuntu-desktop for LXDE or xubuntu-desktop for XFCE.
[20:56] <BoozeWooz> jooo
[20:56] <tuxmatt> Scunizi,  i belive lxde or xfce
[20:56] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: ubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop etc pull all packages.. I just want the gui not all the associated programs..
[20:57] <Ileden> TJ-: I'll try to make the change, and see if it happend again. Thanks! If this solves the issue, it'll be a lot of help, since I regularly use by phone wlan tether to get online on the go.
[20:57] <Becca> Hey. I just downloaded ubuntu to fix a resolution problem but now I have no idea how to get the internet to work on Ubuntu. Can anybody help me pleease? ):
[20:57] <tuxmatt> Scunizi,  i dont belive we can help you there man
[20:57] <Acromartsu> I'm no user! I'm an alien!
[20:58] <Scunizi> tuxmatt: there is a way to get a gui without all the other stuff.. like libreoffice etc.. I just don't need that stuff.
[20:58] <TJ-> Ileden: Good luck. If it does prove to solve it, please report a bug against the 'linux' package describing the issue, the sample of the log file, and the workaround, and link to that Redhat bug
[20:58] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: if you know exactly what you want then install those packages; any reason you started with the server iso instead of mini?
[20:58] <tuxmatt> Becca,  what ubuntu you have
[20:58] <Becca> errrr
[20:58] <Becca> lemme check...
[20:58] <TJ-> Ileden: and feel free to subscribe me to the bug report too - my launchpad id is "tj"
[20:58] <BoozeWooz> heres much talk, so ill ask here instead. helps...
[20:58] <tuxmatt> Scunizi, i never seen no one done it before
[20:58] <kunji> Scunizi: it shouldn't be that bad to do, have you read the apt-get manual?
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> i have ramdisk created by "#mount -t ramfs -o size=256M ramfs /directorystuffs"
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> i putted some staff inside of it
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> but it no werk :@
[20:59] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: faster download and install into a vm.  I'm looking for gnome/unity or xfce
[20:59] <Becca> I dunno I have ubuntu for windows desktop I guess
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> lol
[20:59] <BoozeWooz> wabutu
[20:59] <OpenbsdVbox> Scunizi: xfce would be the lightest of those
[21:00] <Scunizi> tuxmatt: kunji I'm on cli now with irssi.. apt is no stranger.. I just don't need what <something>-desktop provides.. which is way too many programs for my need.
[21:00] <BoozeWooz> halp :S?
[21:00] <Scunizi> OpenbsdVbox: I think so too.. I'll search apt for a package
[21:00] <Ileden> TJ-: Will do. Takes a while to be sure it's really fixed, though, as the problem appears randomly.
[21:00] <kunji> Scunizi: I know, you can run apt-get using the simulation, or just say no when it asks, and then you can see all the packages it wanted to install, just pick the ones you want and install those.
[21:00] <TJ-> Ileden: yeah, I expect it will. No rush, but be good to have a solution documented if there is one
[21:01] <tuxmatt> Becca,  can you take a screen shot of your desktop and send it to me
[21:01] <Ileden> TJ-: Though there was something about the failure condition being related to the router switching channels. I will try to see if I can recreate the issue by manually forcing a channel switch.
[21:01] <tuxmatt> Becca,  pm me and ill see what i can do for you
[21:01] <OpenbsdVbox> !info xfce4 | Scunizi
[21:01] <kunji> Scunizi: So rather than installing the meta package with the whole shabam, just pick out the essentials
[21:01] <TJ-> Ileden: Yes, I saw that too. Maybe the device switches to power-save and doesn't wake up when the beacon changes
[21:03] <kunji> Scunizi: alternatively you could just let them install and remove them after.
[21:03] <Scunizi> kunji: OpenbsdVbox xfc4 is the right package.. and much faster install than kunji 's method.. sudo apt-get install xfce4 .. done :)
[21:04] <kunji> Scunizi: that meta package just doesn't have much else in it, but if you wanted gnome for instance, you need to pick out the right package :P
[21:04] <Scunizi> kunji: that's the whole point.. ie "not much in it"
[21:04] <Ileden> TJ-: Thanks and bye!
[21:05] <kunji> Scunizi: Of XFCE, yeah ^_^
[21:06] <Scunizi> kunji: could have done unity too without all the additional "stuff" .. but this is in a virtual machine running in vBox in Win7 (ick) and a programming environment for my son.
[21:08] <kunji> Scunizi: Yep, hmm, all is good, as long as it's not Java he'll be doing ;)
[21:09] <strywgr> i cannot install anything or remove anything from my Ubuntu 12.04. I need to install flash please anyone can help?
[21:10] <testing_> strywgr, more info: do mean that you can't install something because something is broken in install software, or that you are a user that doesn't have privileges to install software?
[21:11] <Unname__> kunji, now i can't ping the remote host O.o
[21:13] <didic> what does it mean when 2 mailservers have the same priority?
[21:13] <didic> is it just for load balancing or are there other reasons?
[21:13] <didic> i mean mx entries
[21:13] <strywgr> Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. DO you want to repair it now?
[21:14] <strywgr> when i click reapair!
[21:14] <strywgr> it says.. 'Package INstallation Failed'

[21:16] <htamayo> Hi, after install ubuntu precise I don't get the graph mode work, my video card is an ati radeon x1200 series, i was trying to install the fglrx but that was a very big problem cause it does not work, so, i had remove the fglrx modules, after reboot i tried to reconfigure the xorg but still is unsucessfull, the error i got is "no device to configure", so i don't know what else can i do; is there any generic video module/package that i can use?
[21:16] <Unname__> kunji, still alive?
[21:18] <lmbeta8> htamayo xorg should be using readeon module
[21:20] <zenx> hi I installed a gmail quantal minimal fs and I can't establish https connection, I configured eth0 as dhcp in interfaces and added google's DNS nameserver to resolv.conf, is there something missing?
[21:20] <auronandace> !12.10 | zenx
[21:20] <zenx> thanks
[21:21] <racsminilaptop> hello!
[21:21] <htamayo> lmbeta8: how can I reconfigure my xorg in precise? i've already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and also Xorg -reconfigure, but does not work, in fact, i don't have xorg.conf file, so what command should i tried?
[21:21] <racsminilaptop> yes! I am in!... Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:22] <Jagst3r15> how come the chromium here https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/chromium-browser/ is different from the one here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/chromium-browser
[21:22] <racsminilaptop> I have been trying everything and doesnt work!
[21:23] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:23] <lmbeta8> htamayo:http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Precise_Installation_Guide#Generate_a_new_.2Fetc.2FX11.2Fxorg.conf_file
[21:24] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:25] <htamayo> lmbeta8: thanks i will try then i will come back, as a funny thing, I'm in text mode, i'm figure it out how to get to that url without the use of the mouse :-)
[21:25] <strywgr> i cannot install anything or remove anything from my Ubuntu 12.04. I need to install flash please anyone can help? Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. DO you want to repair it now?
[21:26] <testing_> strywgr, I don't know.
[21:26] <racsminilaptop> strywgr... try this in the terminal... sudo apt-get update
[21:27] <strywgr> how to install flash
[21:27] <testing_> strywgr, from here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/152969 it offers some things to try.
[21:28] <testing_> strywgr it says to try on a command line, sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[21:28] <strywgr> okay i did both
[21:29] <strywgr> now i want to install flash for youtube and other websites
[21:29] <strywgr> is thr any command for that?
[21:29] <racsminilaptop> strywgr... go to software center and write flash....
[21:29] <racsminilaptop> it'll install
[21:30] <strywgr> The package system is broken
[21:30] <strywgr> Check if you are using third party repositories. If so disable them, since they are a common source of problems.
[21:30] <strywgr> Furthermore run the following command in a Terminal: apt-get install -f
[21:30] <cincinnatus> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on an Amazon EC2 micro instance. What would be a good free admin control panel for it? Is Zentyal any good?
[21:31] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:31] <strywgr> no luck
[21:31] <strywgr> thanks!
[21:32] <cincinnatus> I'm a bit out of date on panels because I've been administering linux boxes the old-fashioned way (vim <config_file_name). The last one I used was webmin.
[21:34] <testing_> strywgr try running sudo synaptic on command line to open synaptic
[21:34] <strywgr> command not found
[21:35] <racsminilaptop> strywgr....http://askubuntu.com/questions/128814/package-system-is-broken-i-need-to-fix-cant-add-or-remove-apps
[21:35] <DJRWolf> does Ubuntu have some kind of keyboard assist like windows where if you keep hitting a key it starts to keep it pressed down?
[21:38] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:38] <Scunizi> kunji: sorry lunch called.. nope no java.. python and a bit of mysql
[21:38] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  you mean repeate keys like eeeeeeeeeeeee ?
[21:38] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  or some sort of stickyness to shift/ctrl ?
[21:38] <DJRWolf> like WADS for my games, they keep getting "stuck" until I press them again, it is getting annoying, keyboard does not do that on windows side
[21:39] <ramiro> hi. what program can I use to playback input from my DVC100 capture card? the input is composite in. I can capture using ffmpeg with video4linux2, but i'd like to playback in realtime
[21:40] <Jagst3r15> actionparsnip  how come the chromium here https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/chromium-browser/ is different from the one here http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/web/chromium-browser
[21:41] <actionParsnip> Jagst3r15: not sure, looks like a bug
[21:41] <Jagst3r15> chromium maintainer are kinda disorganized arent they :p
[21:42] <racsminilaptop> Any help with my ati card video to activate the effects??
[21:42] <trism> Jagst3r15: you need to look in precise-updates: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise-updates/chromium-browser (that's the version we have now, same as the app page)
[21:42] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  cant say ive ever noticed it in games on Ubuntu. but i dont play a lot of FPS's on my linux box.
[21:43] <DJRWolf> dr_willis minecraft
[21:43] <dr_willis> DJRWolf:  as a test try a very minimal window maanger,  and just a wm, to see if it still does it.. if it dosent, then that would point to some unity/gnome3 setting
[21:43] <Jagst3r15> trism that is the one in the USC?
[21:43] <actionParsnip> Jagst3r15: https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium   for version 21. https://launchpad.net/~a-v-shkop/+archive/chromium-dev   for version 23
[21:43] <dr_willis> if it does it in icewm for example, that would point to a X setting/issue
[21:43] <trism> Jagst3r15: I imagine, I don't really use software-center, the version numbers match the page you link though
[21:43] <DJRWolf> dr_willis it happens in unity ubuntu and lubuntu's LXDE
[21:44] <Jagst3r15> brb
[21:44] <dr_willis> try it in wmx, or icewm ,   if it does it in those. that would point to some odd X/kernel/settings issue
[21:45] <dr_willis> !info wmx
[21:45] <dr_willis> heh. try jwm, or icewm ;)  not wmx. thats an old old old wm.
[21:46] <inter> ciao a tutti
[21:46] <actionParsnip> ahhh jwm is what puppy uses
[21:46] <inter> !list
[21:47] <dr_willis> I think we should make ubottu  msg that list factoid to people ;) save   a lot of log size. :)
[21:48] <actionParsnip> dr_willis: maybe, but some folks block PMs
[21:48] <dr_willis> I doubt if those are the ones doing Caio,listing drive byes ;)
[21:51] <Ocult> hi
[21:52] <Danno_> hi, anbody fancy helping  out with a gedit issue?
[21:52] <jrib> !ask | Danno_
[21:53] <jrib> dr_willis: we should just have ubottu serve up all the different ubuntu images
[21:53] <GoGi> help
[21:54] <Ocult> help2
[21:54] <jrib> Ocult, GoGi: instead of saying "help", ask your actual questions
[21:55] <ezioa> why if i chmod 300 a directory can people still access files inside the directory
[21:55] <GoGi> sorry client (user) malfunction
[21:55] <jrib> ezioa: because you have given them permission to
[21:55] <Danno_> im trying to save my touchscreen calibration values to the 10-evdev.conf file, but when i try to open gedit via terminal i get a "could not connect to session bus" error. can anyone help me with this? im running Lubuntu 12.04, fully patched
[21:55] <phil> Whp does Windows 7 boot in fifteen seconds when ubuntu takes over two minutes?
[21:55] <Ocult> its about conky config, someone may help me ?
[21:55] <ezioa> jrib, but i took the permisson from the directory
[21:55] <phil> *Why
[21:55] <hokay> Привет
[21:55] <ezioa> how can they possible access files inside a directory i've removed read permissions from
[21:56] <tyhgvg> phil: press esc during boot and see what happens
[21:56] <actionParsnip> phil: have you tried installing preload ?
[21:56] <jrib> ezioa: you're being too vague to get a real answer but all you need is executable permission on a directory to "go inside it".  They just can't list the contents of the directory without read
[21:57] <actionParsnip> phil: did you install using Wubi or a true install?
[21:59] <Danno_> im trying to save my touchscreen calibration values to the 10-evdev.conf file, but when i try to open gedit via terminal i get a "could not connect to session bus" error. can anyone help me with this? im running Lubuntu 12.04, fully patched
[22:00] <actionParsnip> Danno_: try:  gksudo leafpad      and you can write to any file you want.
[22:03] <peatene> 4eskz
[22:03] <racsminilaptop_> hello! any body can help me to activate the effects in my ubuntu using compiz.... I tried somethings... but... didnt work!
[22:04] <peatene> czech
[22:04] <racsminilaptop_> I have edubuntu 12.04.... I already isntalled compiz and ati drivers.. but.. doesnt work.. any suggestions
[22:04] <BluesKaj> !cz
[22:04] <BluesKaj> peatene,^
[22:04] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: tried what? error message or nothing happend?
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> nothing happend
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> I installed the original drivers
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_> and I cant activate the effects,...
[22:05] <racsminilaptop_>  reinstalled compiz and didnt work...
[22:06] <racsminilaptop_> I dont know what to do!
[22:06] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: did you install ati drivers via "additioinal drivers" in system settings?
[22:07] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[22:07] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: you can use http://pastie.org or similar, thanks
[22:07] <racsminilaptop_> yes... from additional drivers
[22:08] <david-a> racsminilaptop_: do you enable effects in "appearance" system settings? (i'm on 10.04 so not sure about the terminologi in 12.04)
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> ^CNo LSB modules are available.
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Release:	12.04
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Codename:	precise
[22:11] <FloodBot1> racsminilaptop_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <racsminilaptop_> Linux racsminilaptop 3.2.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:16:45 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:13] <actionParsnip> (23:07:24) actionParsnip: racsminilaptop_: you can use http://pastie.org or similar, thanks
[22:13] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: I did tell you......?
[22:14] <Danno_> @actionParsnip that seems to have allowed me to make the changes but after rebooting it doesnt seem to have made any difference. any ideas?
[22:14] <actionParsnip> Danno_: incorrect file maybe.
[22:18] <racsminilaptop_> i dont know if this is right.. but.. I went to pastie.org    and this is the result.. http://pastie.org/4787875
[22:19] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: you missed the first command...did you actually read what I wrote?
[22:22] <racsminilaptop_> sorry... You told me to use this comand..  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a
[22:22] <racsminilaptop_> is that right?
[22:23] <Danno_> @actionparsnip ive found out which file im actually supposed to be editing, but when i try to change to that directory in terminal it says it doesnt exist. can i just create it myself or would that not work as i need it to?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  yes, and paste the output in pastie.org
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  and then paste the url here
[22:23] <actionParsnip> Danno_: yes, make it
[22:23] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: yes, but you missed the first part of the command.
[22:24] <racsminilaptop_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223510/
[22:25] <racsminilaptop_> did it work this time? sorry i am pretty new with ubuntu
[22:25] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: ok cool, the proprietary driver is loaded.
[22:25] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: pastebin is OS independant. I'd ask in #compiz too, may help
[22:27] <racsminilaptop_> so.. I should change the channel..  to #compiz.... I want to make sure about your suggestion... and thanks by the way
[22:30] <actionParsnip> racsminilaptop_: type:    /j #compiz
[22:30] <Dragonriot> hey guys, I'm trying to install Ubuntu Server on my 2U Rack Server with hardware RAID5.  Every time I try to remove the old debian installation, and install Ubuntu, it appears to be successful, but then when I reboot and try to start up the new Ubuntu install, it reverts back to Debian... Can anyone suggest a way to truly get rid of the old Debian Install so I can start fresh?
[22:32] <racsminilaptop_>  /j #compiz
[22:34] <MonkeyDust> Dragonriot  can you not just delete the partition?
[22:34] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: no space before the /
[22:35] <racsminilaptop_> i did without space... but nothing happend..
[22:39] <racsminilaptop_> Idleone....I am lost. can you help me please?
[22:39] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: with?
[22:40] <dr_willis>  racsminilaptop_  what irc client are you using?
[22:40] <racsminilaptop_> ubuntu
[22:40] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: ubuntu is the operating system, what program are you using to chat in this channel?
[22:40] <racsminilaptop_> xchat
[22:40] <IdleOne> ok
[22:41] <IdleOne> type /join #compiz
[22:41] <racsminilaptop_> in the terminal?
[22:42] <dr_willis> in your irc client....
[22:42] <IdleOne> no
[22:42] <IdleOne> in this window
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> in xchat
[22:42] <dr_willis>  /whatever  are IRC client commands.
[22:43] <racsminilaptop_> I typed the command.. Now, what should I do?
[22:43] <dr_willis> it should show a new channel window somewhere...
[22:43] <dr_willis> you can be in dozens of channels at the same time
[22:43] <IdleOne> racsminilaptop_: you are already in #compiz
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> racsminilaptop_  now go to the #compiz window
[22:46] <dr_willis> !find gpac
[22:46] <dr_willis> !info gpac
[22:47] <Petaz> !apt-get install gimp
[22:47] <Petaz> damn
[22:47] <Petaz> didnt worj
[22:49] <dr_willis> looking for some video tools.. site mentioned gpac.. that apt description has to be one of the worse ive seen. :)
[22:49] <dr_willis> Its like redundantly redundant. :)
[22:50] <dr_willis> !find MP4Box
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  you should know better, do that in an ubottu screen
[22:51] <notroot> hello
[22:51] <dr_willis> anyone else think we need some sort of 'tagging' system to apt so we can find things easier.
[22:52] <notroot> I've googled around for an hour or so trying to find the solution to this problem: Ubuntu Server install doesn't have an option to do full disk encryption using aes-xts-plain, it seems that manual configuration is only possible through the Ubuntu Desktop LiveCD.  Is there a way to install Ubuntu Desktop then remove all the GUI elements?
[22:53] <phil_fl> dr_willis, you don't like $ apt-cache search MP4Box ?
[22:53] <dr_willis> was searching  the repos for other video tools.. none even mentioned gpac yesterday
[22:53] <dr_willis> did a simile search today on google and a site mentioned gpac.
[22:54] <muellisoft> notroot: sure. You can apt-get install ubuntu-server and apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop and afterwards all the unnecessary packages should be gone. But I don't know right now how smart the dependecy tracking really is.
[22:54] <Mr_Queue> At that point, you're better off starting again.
[22:54] <Mr_Queue> Do it right the first time.
[22:55] <Mr_Queue> Sync whatever data you're looking to keep somewhere, start again, do it right, and bring the data back.
[22:55] <racsminilaptop_> Idleone...no body is in compiz channel  :(
[22:55] <Mr_Queue> People still run that? O_o
[22:55] <Petaz> that cant be true
[22:55] <notroot> Muelli: Is there a way to install Server but set up encryption ahead of time?
[22:56] <Mr_Queue> ^^ Through the installer.
[22:56] <Petaz> so what is the new compiz?
[22:56] <AmarokNelg> Instead of compiz, try kwin?
[22:56] <notroot> Mr_Queue: the installer doesn't allow aes-xts-* as algorithms
[22:56] <dr_willis> New Compiz?
[22:57] <notroot> only aes-cbc-* and serpent
[22:57] <racsminilaptop_> new compiz?
[22:57] <Mr_Queue> notroot: put any thought into why that algorithm isn't supported in an installer written by the best minds of both the Debian and Ubuntu teams?
[22:57] <Mr_Queue> You're likely doing it wrong.
[22:58] <Muelli> notroot: hm. well. you could probably attempt the install but set up your crypto container manually before you select the partition to install to. But that already sounds like getting hairy.
[22:58] <Muelli> notroot: other than that: I don't know.
[22:58] <racsminilaptop_> dr_willis...  thanks for your support... but .. no body answer in  compiz channel... any other suggestion.. pleasea and thanks
[22:58] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  i dont even know what your original problem is.
[22:59] <Mr_Queue> lulz
[22:59] <AmarokNelg> I dont know eather
[22:59] <Mr_Queue> Started at power on, lets go from there.
[22:59] <notroot> Mr_Queue: It's not directly supported in Desktop edition either (you have to do it manually) but it's a better algorithm.  Why they haven't updated it or allow something similar for Server is beyond me.
[23:00] <Mr_Queue> There are reasons. Have you came up with a reason it's needed? Other than to just do it?
[23:00] <racsminilaptop_> dr_willis : my problem is that I cant activate any effect on my minilaptop... I installed compiz, original drivers and The effects doesnt work..
[23:00] <AmarokNelg> try kwin instead of compiz
[23:00] <notroot> Mr_Queue: Yes, because XTS is faster and more secure than CBC
[23:01] <Foyle> quit
[23:01] <Mr_Queue> I mean everyone starts somewhere, but if you're asking for support getting an encryption algorithm outside of the installer, I think you're going to run into much bigger problems down the road.
[23:01] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  last time i saw someone in here fighting with that.. they were running Unity-2d instead of 3d..
[23:02] <notroot> I can do it on Desktop with no problems, but that's because there's a LiveCD of the Desktop edition.  Is there a LiveCD of Server somewhere? I haven't been able to find one
[23:02] <Muelli> well notroot. You might be able to let the server install set up the container and just after it's finished reconfigure the container and make the installation use that (without it knowing about it).
[23:02] <Mr_Queue> Perhaps there are key binaries in the repos which are not, or can not be compiled to support what you're after.
[23:02] <Mr_Queue> encryption is suppose to be secure, not fast.
[23:02] <notroot> Muelli: reconfiguring the container would require decrypting and then reencrypting.  It's possible, but likely to screw up in some way
[23:03]  * Muelli nods
[23:03] <racsminilaptop_> dr_ willis: how do I install 3d... I am using ubuntu 2d
[23:03] <racsminilaptop_> at the beginning of the session
[23:03] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop_:  if you are using 2d that explains your whole issue.
[23:03] <zykotick9> notroot: i believe the text installers have MORE options then the LiveCD, not less.  and there is no server livecd.
[23:03] <dr_willis> You select Unity, not unity2d at the login screen. racsminilaptop_
[23:03] <Dragonriot> MonkeyDust: tried that... even tried formatting it with NTFS... but the RAID5 setup just restores the drive each time... Im working on getting into the Raid Controller now, downloading the CD for the server
[23:04] <Muelli> nah, I'd rather meant to kinda interrupt the installation process, like not advancing just after the container was set up. I don't know the process but I imagine the installer having a separate step for setting up the container. So after that, you could maybe reconfigure the thing. And no data has been copied yet.
[23:06] <racsminilaptop_> OK... i will try now.
[23:06] <racsminilaptop_> thanks.
[23:06] <YanGM> hello
[23:06] <notroot> well the way you do it on Desktop is boot the live CD, manually configure the partitions, install, chroot into the new install, set the new install to work with the encrypted container and update the initrd
[23:06] <notroot> but the server has no option to do that because there's no live CD
[23:07] <YanGM> I want to connect a server to a switch, with more than one ethernet cable
[23:07] <notroot> I suppose I could just install Desktop and remove the GUI, but that's a pain in the ass
[23:07] <YanGM> what I need to do
[23:08] <kyconquers> I am wanting to get into remote files systems. Is there a application I should look at first?
[23:08] <Danno_> can someone tell me why after installing updates the "system settings" option has disappeared from the programs menu?
[23:08] <blackshirt> yangm, you can connect it
[23:09] <blackshirt> danno_ you have upgraded to unity desktop .. I think
[23:09] <Muelli> notroot: well, you could Ctrl+Alt+F2
[23:09] <Danno_> im on Lubuntu and im using the default lxde desktop, if that helps
[23:09] <YanGM> blackshirt: http://i.imgur.com/yQ4sn.png
[23:09] <notroot> Muelli: ?
[23:09] <Muelli> so it is indeed a "live CD" but w/o an X server...
[23:10] <Muelli> notroot: press Ctrl+Alt+F2 or so when you've booted up the server installation medium.
[23:10] <blackshirt> danno_ usually system settings menu was part of gnome
[23:11] <raido_> anyone here have a problem with xfce loading slowly after running updates
[23:11] <blackshirt> yangm, i'm sit on handheld devices, and can't look at your link given
[23:11] <racsminilaptop> dr_willis> works!!!! now works!... wow! finaly the answer
[23:12] <dr_willis> racsminilaptop:  so for the last 2+ hrs.. you have been trying to get effects going . in the desktop that is designed to not have effects?
[23:13] <YanGM> blackshirt: I want to connect a internet server (firewall+cache) with 4 or 8 gigabit cables to a switch
[23:14] <racsminilaptop> yes!.. what an embarrasing situation... thanks for this IRC!.. thanks dr_willis....
[23:14] <YanGM> so all clients will have sufficient bandwidth
[23:14] <LazerChicken> Hi i just installed ubuntu for the second time and upon inital startup it works fine ... then once i restart my video card stops working and i have to plug into the onboard one ... idk how to install my videocard drivers and it isnt telling me i need to any help?
[23:15] <javierf_> Hi! I've got problems with wireless connection in ubuntu 12.04. My network has WPA protection. Every second day ubuntu can't connect to the new if I don't restart the router
[23:16] <racsminilaptop> I am so glad.... thanks.. bye bye
[23:17] <twitchie> LazerChicken: what video card do you have?
[23:17] <LazerChicken> raedon hd 6450
[23:18] <Danno_> does lubuntu have any kind of on-screen keyboard for use with touchscreens?
[23:19] <twitchie> LazerChicken: have you installed the proprietary driver from the additional drivers section?
[23:19] <LazerChicken> It only tells me to install all the nvidia drivers that are to my onboard card
[23:19] <notroot> well looks like this is gonna be a challenge.  best option so far looks to be decrypting and then reencrypting, which is gonna be a PITA
[23:20] <notroot> or maybe there's a way to just download the server and build an install from the ground up
[23:20] <notroot> btw, the goal is a minimalistic install for use with virtualization software
[23:20] <notroot> all i want is a linux setup capable of running virtualbox or vmware
[23:20] <LazerChicken> i think upon inital install it actually had the option to install the raedon drivers but i restarted and now it isnt seeing it
[23:21] <Muelli> notroot: what about switching the tty with ctrl+alt+f2 during installation with the server CD?
[23:22] <notroot> right now the install is running in a qemu virtual environment so I can install to an image file, and ctrl-alt-f2 is captured by the host not the guest
[23:22] <twitchie> LazerChicken: what's the driver output from this command- lshw -c video
[23:22] <Muelli> notroot: you can send key strokes thruogh qemu
[23:23] <notroot> how?, even in full screen the host is capturing ctrl-alt-f2
[23:23] <LazerChicken> twitch: copy and paste the results here?
[23:23] <LazerChicken> its talking about my onboard
[23:23] <Muelli> notroot: depending on how you started it. If didn't specify a monitor, it'll be on ctrl+alt+2
[23:24] <Muelli> notroot: when in QEMU monitor, you can "sendkeys ctrl+alt+f2" or so
[23:24] <LazerChicken> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[23:24] <LazerChicken>   *-display
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        description: VGA compatible controller
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        product: C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430]
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[23:24] <LazerChicken>        physical id: d
[23:24] <FloodBot1> LazerChicken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:27] <notroot> might have figured a trick out
[23:27] <notroot> bbiab
[23:28] <twitchie> LazerChicken: so the ATI is not showing at all?
[23:29] <LazerChicken> I dont guess so? Im nubby to all this ... so i really dont know what im looking at
[23:29] <r00t_> list
[23:29] <Danno_> is there an on-screen keyboard built into Lubuntu or do i need to install a 3rd party program for this?
[23:29] <LazerChicken> all i know is when i did the install i could see thru my correct card ... restart then all i get is choppy screen untill i plug into the other port
[23:31] <LazerChicken> is there a place to go to look at my connected hardware so i can see it it even recognizes it?
[23:31] <ubuntu-studio> czech
[23:31] <AmarokNelg> Did you fix the compiz problem?
[23:32] <peppe__> hi!
[23:33] <peppe__> exit
[23:33] <LazerChicken> twitchie: i have the install disk that came with my card... but it doesnt run it
[23:33] <ladybug> I have questions.. can anyone help?
[23:33] <AmarokNelg> we can
[23:33] <twitchie> LazerChicken: no that disk will have windows binaries
[23:33] <LazerChicken> icic
[23:33] <AmarokNelg> probley mostly they can
[23:33] <nuxwin> hello world
[23:34] <ubuntu-studio> czech ubuntu
[23:34] <ladybug> how can I change rooms/server host?
[23:34] <nuxwin> join i-mscp-dev
[23:34] <marainein> where do i ask for help with X windows?
[23:34] <AmarokNelg> ?!
[23:34] <twitchie> LazerChicken: can you copy and paste your lshw -c video       to paste.ubuntu.com  or pastebin.com and post me the link
[23:35] <LazerChicken> yes sec
[23:36] <AmarokNelg> marainein: try askin here about x11
[23:36] <LazerChicken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1223599/
[23:37] <ladybug> how can I change rooms/server host?
[23:37] <marainein> i've got a toshiba laptop, with what i believe to be a NVIDIA GeForce4 420 Go chipset, that will only give me 8 bit color under x11
[23:37] <ladybug> or is this not an irc program?
[23:38] <LazerChicken> twitchie: now i did plug my card in after i was already booted up because i had unplugged it
[23:38] <LazerChicken> do you think the results would change if i rebooted
[23:39] <twitchie> LazerChicken: no
[23:39] <AmarokNelg> ladybug: duh... this is irc
[23:39] <AmarokNelg> marainein: ehh
[23:39] <ladybug> ok.. then how do I connect to the irc I used to be on?
[23:40] <AmarokNelg> what is the channel?
[23:40] <LazerChicken> twitchie: okie dokie .. and just to be clear i mean i plugged the card into the board ... not the monitor plug :P
[23:40] <ladybug> misfits-irc.irc
[23:41] <ladybug> ther are about 8 chans in there that i am used to
[23:41] <twitchie> LazerChicken: have you tried disabling onboard video via bios?
[23:41] <ladybug> but I can't install windows for some obscene reason.. so I now have ubuntu and have to figure out all new programs
[23:42] <AmarokNelg> ladybug: what? what the heck does that have to do with channels
[23:42] <ladybug> I can't install my normal mirc
[23:42] <LazerChicken> twitchie: no i havent done anything except ask on here lol
[23:42] <AmarokNelg> Server not found
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>
[23:42] <AmarokNelg>
[23:42] <FloodBot1> AmarokNelg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <LazerChicken> like i said when i installed on the inital boot my correct card was working .. and it showed ati drivers ready to install .. but the updates got done first so i rebooted and thats when i cant see anything
[23:43] <AmarokNelg> ?
[23:44] <snollux> Hello hello. Can someone tell me how best to set up a usergroup for Apache2 and PHP? If (by some weird exploit) someone gets into the HTTP server, I don't want them having root privs or anything
[23:44] <snollux> or access to other documents and files
[23:45] <LazerChicken> twitchie: im about to download this. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English
[23:45] <twitchie> LazerChicken: well I find it strange that the ATI card is not listed in your lshw and additional drivers is no longer showing you the option to download the drivers for the card. I would firstly just make sure the card is seated in the slot 100% and if that still doesn't work disbale your onboard video in bios
[23:46] <LazerChicken> if i disable the onboard and then it still doesnt work how will i see anyting then to turn the onboard back on lol also idk how to disable the onboard
[23:50] <twitchie> I would just check to make sure the card is seated right first
[23:51] <LazerChicken> yes.. i just took it out and put it back it .. all seems well there
[23:52] <AmarokNelg> Why did they remove unicrome and ati rage 128 from mesa3d driver?
[23:52] <twitchie> still not showing up ubuntu?
[23:52] <LazerChicken> no :(  in the additional drivers still only ones for my onboard ...
[23:53] <LazerChicken> im going to reboot with the card in and ill brb
[23:54] <hellslinger> Does anyone know how to get cedarview-drm to work with hardware acceleration and glx? Video acceleration appears to work, but glxgears uses 100% cpu
[23:54] <AmarokNelg> I dont see anything wrong with it taking 100% cpu
[23:54] <AmarokNelg> it has to process the gears, doesn't it?
[23:55] <hellslinger> according to the intel pdf on the cedarview driver, glxgears should use less than ~2%
[23:55] <AmarokNelg> Id like to see your document
[23:56] <AmarokNelg> how much fps do you get?
[23:56] <hellslinger> AmarokNelg: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/enabling_hardware_accelerated_playback_ubuntu_12.pdf
[23:57] <hellslinger> I get ~140 fps
[23:57] <AmarokNelg> thats not bad
[23:58] <hellslinger> Everything else about it works great, but if I can get glx to work faster, I'd love to use desktop effects in KDE