[22:56] <qwebirc70379> Hi
[22:58] <qwebirc70379> Tyring to install Mythbuntu but it keeps hanging - GUI loads and I select all basic options (no remote support, open source driver, etc.) but it seems stuck forever on "ubiquity mysqld - starting as process 131BB"
[22:59] <qwebirc70379> or maybe it's 13188...
[22:59] <qwebirc70379> any ideas?
[23:03] <qwebirc70379> Scratch that - now on "started cleanup of temporary directories" but I've been here too and it seems as though the better part of an hour has passed when it's still on this - this can't be normal can it?
[23:09] <Shadow__X> are you using the latest iso?
[23:18] <tgm4883> The 14.04.2 iso


[14:35] <elopio> ping brendand: we need to do more planning today. Can you stay a couple of hours after today's stand up?
[14:41] <brendand> elopio, sure
[14:50] <davmor2> brendand: noooooooooooo it's a trap
[14:53] <brendand> elopio, btw i'm quite embarrassed about the trunk breakage on friday :(. sorry
[14:54] <brendand> elopio, in the interest of getting it fixed though, can you take a look at my last comments on https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/fix1416519-config_argument/+merge/248162 ?
[14:54] <elopio> brendand: allan and myself approved it, so it's teamwork emabarrasement.
[14:54] <elopio> brendand: I'm doing the changes.
[14:54] <brendand> elopio, well i should have tested my code properly after refactoring
[15:04] <elopio> brendand: take a new look, please.
[15:04] <elopio> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/fix1416519-config_argument/+merge/248162
[15:07] <brendand> elopio, the calling of return looks a little odd, but i suppose not harmful
[15:08] <brendand> elopio, anyway it's approved by me so just need to see that the jenkins tests pass
[15:08] <elopio> and one more +1
[15:08] <brendand> elopio, yep
[15:09] <balloons> elopio, can you set this to WIP or finish it?
[15:09] <balloons> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/sudoku-app/autopilot-workaround_dialog/+merge/246255
[15:11] <brendand> elopio, my plan to address the root issue is to write a function which sets up an askpass command
[15:11] <elopio> balloons: it is finished. What it is missing is the toolkit release that makes it needed.
[15:11] <brendand> elopio, then the test code can use sudo by specifying the -A option and setting SUDO_ASKPASS to the path of the file
[15:12] <brendand> elopio, i could put this code in a helper, just trying to think of a suitable place
[15:12] <brendand> elopio, would helpers.autopilot be ok?
[15:13] <elopio> balloons: hum, but Dialog is in trunk. There's something weird there.
[15:13] <elopio> brendand: so, not running adt with the root restriction. That sounds ok.
[15:14] <brendand> elopio, no root will only be for the scope of the commands that need it. much cleaner
[15:15] <elopio> brendand: I'm not sure about puttiing it in the helpers module, which so far has things like custom proxy objects. And I'm not sure what does it have to do with autopilot.
[15:15] <elopio> brendand: I think I would prefer something like ubuntu_sanity_tests/testbed.py
[15:16] <brendand> elopio, nothing, but then i also find things there like get_device_name and get_channel_name
[15:16] <brendand> elopio, so it looks like everything general purpose is ending up there
[15:17] <elopio> brendand: no, those are things that need to be moved to autopilot as capabilities.
[15:18] <elopio> brendand: the askpass thing doesn't seem like something that autopilot should have.
[15:19] <elopio> so far, we have used helpers as a temporary location for things that need to be upstreamed. Which doesn't mean that's it's only purpose, but I think the askpass handling should be in the sanity module, and remain there.
[15:19] <elopio> a place like ubuntu_sanity_tests/helpers/adt.py might be ok too.
[15:26] <elopio> balloons: the version of ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot that gets installed on that test is 1.1.1279+14.10.20141007-0ubuntu1. The one in vivid is 1.1.1376+15.04.20150111-0ubuntu1. I don't know why it's not updated.
[15:26] <balloons> excellent. I just re-ran it as well
[15:28] <balloons> the versioning might be a CI question; but I'll have a look on the re-run where it's installing from
[15:32] <elopio> hello alesage.
[15:32] <elopio> I copied the style of your tests in https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/fix1416519-config_argument/+merge/248162
[15:33] <alesage> elopio, o/
[15:33] <elopio> I think we should keep the testing of main, and the testing of the config in different branches. Please take a look.
[15:34] <alesage> elopio, ok will have a look
[15:43] <elopio> alesage: we'll do more planning today after the standup.
[15:44] <alesage> elopio, k
[15:58] <alesage> elopio, reviewed
[15:59] <brendand> alesage, surely if they were using it as a module they'd be surprised if a function they called sys.exit'ed!
[16:00] <elopio> thanks alesage.
[16:00] <alesage> brendand, but calling a function named main might tip them off? :)  elopio cheers
[16:00]  * alesage brbs
[16:34]  * brendand is pleasantly surprised to find that the code for entering the wifi key is already present
[17:01] <brendand> alesage, elopio - for your perusal: https://code.launchpad.net/~brendan-donegan/ubuntu-sanity-tests/wizard_remove_connection/+merge/248280
[17:01] <elfy> balloons: you got any idea what's up with cdimages.ubuntu.com been as slow as thickest treacle in the world all weekend and still is
[17:02] <elfy> at one point I think dial up would have been quicker ...
[17:09] <balloons> elfy, no I don't. But I did want to make sure our global jam stuff was ready. I'll be free to chat a bit later
[17:16] <elopio> brendand: what about making that askpass stuff as a fixture?
[17:16] <elopio> like
[17:16] <elopio> with testbed.Sudo():
[17:16] <elopio>     check_call('stuff that requires sudo')
[17:21] <brendand> elopio, ah - that's exactly what i was looking for
[17:47] <balloons> o/ doug5 buonasera
[17:47] <doug5> balloons, hello!
[17:49] <balloons> doug5, are you back from vaca? everything go well?
[17:49] <doug5> balloons, yes! really nice :)
[17:53]  * dobey wonders if cwayne/kylen are back this week
[17:55] <balloons> doug5, wonderful to hear. Getting away is nice. I hope you are feeling quite refreshed
[18:02] <doug5> balloons, well, yes :) but I'm missing Oz...
[18:09] <brendand> elopio, fixturized, hopefully to your satisfaction
[18:13] <elopio> brendand: I think that you can remove the method _create_askpass
[18:15] <elopio> brendand: and are we going to need a different path for the aaskpass file? I think I would prefer to have it as an instance variable in the fixture.
[18:17] <elopio> with testbed.AskPassFixture(self.config[KEY_DEVICE_PASSWORD]) as askpass:
[18:17] <elopio>     check_call(("rm /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/*"), shell=True)
[18:18] <elopio> inside the askpass fixture you can use the fixtures.EnvironmentVariable to set SUDO_ASKPASS
[18:29] <elfy> balloons: ok thanks - likely be gone by later though - not sure what global jam stuff tbh you want to talk to me about lol
[18:42] <balloons> elfy, lol, I'm around now finally. I wanted to followup on the bug again
[18:43] <elfy> bug?
[18:44] <balloons> yes, the ubiquity issue. aka, do we need to integrate the writeup on using disks or can we go with just usc
[18:44] <balloons> sorry sdc
[18:45] <elfy> oh that - well I guess something needs to be done re that
[18:46] <elfy> just a line on the wiki about other available options
[18:47] <elfy> on a purely personal level I'll be doing something for pleia2 to use in the CA jam - but only because they're targetting Xubuntu :)
[18:48] <elfy> mmm
[18:49] <elfy> so which is the page which supposedly is the new one with info - I just followed the breadcrumbs and ended up wiht testdrive ...
[18:51] <elfy> found it
[18:53] <balloons> how'd you end up at testdrive I wondeR?
[18:53] <elfy> just trying to work that out :)
[18:54] <elfy> I also ended up at the wrong devtoolsusage page as well
[18:54] <elfy> sorting that out too
[18:55] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester
[18:55] <elfy> iso tracker walkthrough -> testdrive page
[18:57] <balloons> elfy, ahh yes the walkthrough
[18:58] <elfy> just looking at that
[18:59] <elfy> I assume the vid on youtube is testdrive?
[18:59] <balloons> yes
[18:59] <elfy> so all the info on that page - except vid and the testdrive bits are still good - just not pretty
[19:01] <elfy> we could make that page - or copy bits - for the iso tracker walkthrough?
[19:02] <elfy> balloons: ^^ if that's the case I can make it so
[19:05] <balloons>  elfy yes I would agree
[19:05] <elfy> found the dodgy link - done that one now
[19:06] <elfy> was on testwriter :)
[19:06] <elfy> balloons: ok - so make a new page QATeam/IsoTrackerUsage
[19:06] <elfy> ?
[19:07] <elfy> and grab the good bits from the old page and get the right linking going on new pages
[19:08] <balloons> elfy, I would think we could just change the tutorial wording to not say testdrive. hmm
[19:09] <balloons> mm, indeed the testing page points to the walkthrough
[19:09] <elfy> the tutorial isn't really like that
[19:09] <balloons> so it should not say use testdrive
[19:10] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup
[19:10] <elfy> that page is the *new* version
[19:10] <elfy> all that it doesn't do is talking about installing to hardware
[19:11] <elfy> so the walkthrough *could* be just detail on the tracker
[19:11] <elfy> or ignored completely
[19:20] <pleia2> elfy: you rock :)
[19:20] <elfy> pleia2: it's a wobbling wock - don't stand on it ;)
[19:21] <elfy> and before knome comments - wobbling NOT wobbly :p
[19:26] <balloons> elfy, ahh yes, actually knome pointed out we could meld them into a generic qatracker walktrhough
[19:27] <elfy> wiki giving me issues ... wandering off to make a cuppa :)
[19:27] <elfy> I've got rid of testdrive at least - will fiddle about a bit more
[19:40] <elfy> balloons: ok think I did enough for the moment with it
[19:40] <elfy> just a tracker run through now
[19:42] <alesage> https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/run_main_tests_tests/+merge/248135
[19:46] <elfy> balloons: and added a line re disks to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/DevelopmentSetup
[20:03]  * balloons looks
[20:05] <elfy> uggh - more or less anything to do with cd.image.ubuntu is a pain
[20:08] <elfy> 100.0% 30.7 kBps DONE zsync speed ...
[20:24] <ianorlin> yeah I have that problem as well
[20:30] <elfy> balloons: anyway - does that all make sense currently - the walkthrough that is
[20:40] <balloons> elfy, yes, I have a minor edit (remove mentioning vm), but otherwise good
[20:41] <balloons> I'll edit out the specific image as well
[20:43] <elfy> ok
[20:43] <elfy> I'm all ubuntu server'd out for the day :)
[20:46] <balloons> hmm did the submission template move?
[20:46] <elfy> not guilty :D
[20:46]  * balloons noticed the last half is chopped off
[20:46] <balloons> it was knome :-)
[20:48] <balloons> that said, it's likely we can eliminate there usage soon enough
[20:53] <elfy> yep
[21:27] <knome> what is?
[21:27] <knome> i didn't do it.
[22:50] <alesage> elopio, veebers, remind me what has to be "cleaned up" about the edges demo?
[23:01] <ianorlin> hmm cdimage is still really slow
[23:13] <veebers> alesage: not sure off the top of my head sorry
[23:14] <alesage> veebers, ack thx
[23:56] <alesage> veebers, ping, I'm finding myself getting involved in the sanity script and wanting to move it over--anything to do there beyond just manually shifting everything?  aware if this is progress elsewhere?  elopio too?
[23:56] <alesage> if no-one objects I'll just do that yah


[10:12] <djst> tritium:  that's what i'm trying to figure out.. how do i change that setting? :)
[10:12] <membreya> hmmm no it's not ...just read that :)
[10:12] <membreya> reading through the archive on the mailing list :)
[10:13] <omniscient> is it possible to backup my packages so that when i reinstall apt doesnt have to redownload them all?
[10:13] <BockBilbo> bye!
[10:13] <djst> tritium:  i can't hold the Win key pressed and press another letter at the same time, because the applet will just recognize the Win key alone
[10:13] <membreya> omniscient: yes it is
[10:14] <NixerX> omniscient, tar http://www.podulator.com/debs/wired/
[10:14] <NixerX> oops
[10:14] <NixerX> i mean tar /var/cache/apt/archives/
[10:14] <tritium> Pineapples10, okay ;)
[10:14] <omniscient> ok, and what about the package database, if i just copy them all over to new install, it will work?
[10:14] <membreya> omniscient: go to your /var/cache/apt/archives directory
[10:15] <omniscient> or do i just run update and it will check that directory?
[10:15] <tritium> djst, did you look under "Layout Options->Alt/Win key behavior"?
[10:15] <membreya> then on your new install, just do a dpkg -i *.deb
[10:15] <Pineapples10> im trying to install DVDRIP, when i type apt-get install dvdrip it cannot find the package
[10:15] <omniscient> membreya, will that install depends?
[10:16] <omniscient> isnt it just drip Pineapples10 ?
[10:16] <membreya> all your depends will be in that directory
[10:16] <omniscient> membreya, gotya, thanks man.
[10:16] <blizah> what media player and audio player would you guys recommend?
[10:16] <bwlang> blizah: i like rhythmbox
[10:16] <Fator_Dee> blizah: xmms and mplayer
[10:16] <viper12> does anyone have any ETA on fixes on the latest kernel updates for hoary? This hath really fubared my main box with the nvidia piece broken.
[10:16] <NixerX> blizah, xmms  for  audio, xine  for video, or videl lan for both
[10:17] <NixerX> *video lan*
[10:17] <NixerX> Has anyone tried to download the nvidia drivers from nvidia and compile the module?
[10:18] <djst> tritium:  which one should it be?
[10:18] <tritium> viper12, you can always revert to the old version
[10:18] <edge> Ha, everytime synaptic has dependency's it shutwdown,
[10:18] <tritium> djst, I don't know.  I don't use that
[10:18] <blizah> k ill look in to them
[10:18] <blizah> audio: rhythmbox or xmms  video: xine or mplayer
[10:19] <Pineapples10> i hate this
[10:19] <NixerX> xmms and xine
[10:19] <viper12> Yeah, trit....that wasn't the question.  the question was regarding eta on solutions to problems, not reversion.
[10:19] <tritium> viper12, either boot into a previous kernel, or go downgrade to the previous kernel by installing it from /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:19] <blizah> right now i have mplayer and xmms
[10:19] <viper12> nods and ty to trit.
[10:20] <chantry> argh madwifi is broken with the last update
[10:20] <edge> Some one know wht could be wrong?
[10:20] <edge> I mena with synaptic,
[10:20] <chantry> I can't have wifi anymore
[10:20] <djst> tritium:  i figured it out, thanks
[10:20] <edge> Since it shutdown on every dependency
[10:20] <tritium> heze, gxx_ wolki I'll reboot into the latest kernel in 1 minute here.  This job is finishing up...
[10:20] <Pineapples10> this is ridiculous, every guide is written in a moon language that I cant understand
[10:20] <Gast12232> hi
[10:20] <djst> tritium:  another question, why is X-Chat completing tri with Tricker when there are two ppl in here starting with "tri" ?
[10:21] <devazion> am i the only one that cant get nvidia-glx working since newest update?
[10:21] <chantry> is anyone else using madwifi with last ubuntu kernel?
[10:21] <viper12> oh, just an fyi if any devs are lurking....it also broke the wifi a bit as well....i'm guessing the kernel update was just 'fubar' from word one?
[10:21] <Gast12232> i search a german helpchannel for ubuntu
[10:21] <NixerX> edge have you tried running synaptic from the command line to see where the dep issue is?
[10:21] <heze> tritium, g'luck
[10:21] <tritium> djst, hit tab a second time.  It goes with the first, alphabetically
[10:21] <tritium> heze, thanks ;)
[10:21] <chantry> I think its only the restriced-modules which is borken
[10:21] <chantry> the dev are fixing it?
[10:21] <Gast12232> i search a german helpchannel for ubuntu
[10:21] <heze> you'll need it ;)
[10:21] <aqtis> anyone here able to use a PalmOS device with the current LiveCD?
[10:22] <djst> tritium:  not here for some reason.. it just types "Tricker: "
[10:22] <membreya> hehe I'm SO happy..got my MS explorer mouse working properly so that it's side buttons work :D
[10:22] <aqtis> and if so whats the magic?
[10:22] <tritium> brb
[10:22] <Gast12232> i search a german helpchannel for ubuntu
[10:22] <Gast12232> i search a german helpchannel for ubuntu
[10:22] <djst> as if it doesn't realize there are more than one
[10:22] <heze> chantry, nah the devs will never fix it ;)
[10:22] <Pineapples10> how come no matter what package I try to install i get "couldnt find package" why is linux so hard
[10:22] <edge>  Failed to set label from markup due to error parsing markup: Unknown tag 'p' on line 1 char 97
[10:22] <edge> :S,
[10:23] <raydogg> can u do a md5 over a whole directory recursively to make sure all files copied correctly ?
[10:23] <djp> Pineapples10: have you setup your repos?
[10:23] <Pineapples10> no, so i need to setup my repositries?
[10:24] <NixerX> edge. dose it mention a file?
[10:24] <djp> Pineapples10: yes
[10:24] <Pineapples10> ok...now about doing that
[10:25] <edge> no, it happens on every dependency, it doesn't mather from wich package. apt-get works still fine.
[10:25] <djp> Pineapples10: visit http://ubuntuguide.org and follow the really concise setup guide to get a very nice ubuntu install!
[10:25] <Pineapples10> ok, I will give that a go, tahnks
[10:27] <NixerX> edge maybe reinstall synaptic using apt-get?
[10:27] <geppy> Are the new nVidia drivers packaged, yet?
[10:27] <edge> That's a good idea,
[10:28] <NixerX> I have them sometimes.
[10:28] <tritium> yep, definitely some abi breakage ;)
[10:28] <heze> :)
[10:29] <tritium> from dmesg: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module
[10:29] <tritium> so there could be issues with many kernel modules
[10:29] <geppy> meh, I'll just install the binary
[10:30] <aqtis> anyone here able to use a PalmOS device with the current ubuntu LiveCD?
[10:30] <membreya> anyone here using an nvidia card?
[10:30] <aqtis> note: It works for me under Slackware10
[10:30] <devazion> membreya sure all dop
[10:30] <heze> membreya, yes
[10:30] <aqtis> I am using nvidia
[10:30] <edge> I have used a nvidea card
[10:30] <NixerX> any one here from the northeast US?
[10:31] <aqtis> almost 50 milse further north
[10:31] <membreya> can you guys do me a favour, do a cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[10:31] <membreya> and let me know what it says
[10:31] <tritium> membreya, kernel module problems
[10:31] <membreya> mine says Status:          Disabled
[10:31] <membreya> I'm thinking that's why my 3d performance is blowing
[10:31] <NixerX> aqtis, canada?
[10:31] <heze> got no "nvidida" on driver-folder
[10:31] <edge> **** after reinstalling synaptic, still the same proble
[10:31] <tritium> membreya, that means you're using intel_agp instead of NvAGP
[10:32] <aqtis> Si senoir
[10:32] <devazion> This might sound stupid, on the livecd with gnome 2.10 from gnome.org (the ubuntu one) i can like plug in my usb storage and it pops up on the desktop, on newest upgrade with installed hoary it dont pop up, its not even found. What module/feature has to be turned on the get that behavior?
[10:32] <membreya> tritium: how do I fix that one ?
[10:32] <NixerX> edge try doing an apr-get  purge maybe it's a configu file that foo
[10:32] <aqtis> membreya: I have an nvidia but it ain sdetected as such
[10:32] <tritium> membreya, there's nothing _wrong_ with that
[10:32] <membreya> then why does my 3d blow :(
[10:32] <tritium> membreya, if you want to, you can blacklist intel_agp, and then use NvAGP
[10:33] <NixerX> aqtis, you gonna get some snow from this storm were getting her in maine?
[10:33] <edge> how do i use that command
[10:33] <aqtis> hope not
[10:33] <edge> waith I wil look up in the man
[10:33] <aqtis> bloddy fed up with inter, I am
[10:33] <NixerX> were supposed to get 12-20in
[10:33] <aqtis> argh
[10:33] <LinuxJones> NixerX, that storm is hitting here tomorrow AM
[10:33] <membreya> erm ...and how do I load the nvagp tritium ? :P modprobe it ?
[10:33] <holyhacker> hello
[10:33] <NixerX> LinuxJones, Where you at?
[10:33] <aqtis> try that
[10:33] <LinuxJones> NixerX, Nova Scotia
[10:34] <tritium> membreya,         Option          "NvAGP"                 "1"
[10:34] <NixerX> Maybe it'll loose some power by then.
[10:34] <gxx_> tritium: cools, let me know when this is solved.. i watching a show atm, and checking irc
[10:34] <LinuxJones> NixerX, we are only supposed to get 6 inches tho but 35 mph winds
[10:34] <tritium> (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[10:34] <holyhacker> how do i install a plug-in for firefox to let me see java applets
[10:34] <holyhacker> and where do i get one
[10:34] <membreya> hhmmm just looked tritium and it's already in there :|
[10:34] <tritium> gxx_, I'm about to leave for a while.  I'll be on in a few hours
[10:34] <blizah> are there any audio/video players that have just a basic play, stop, pause, open, and fast forward, rewind buttons that could fit at the top bar is?
[10:34] <Pineapples10> in your opinion, is the ultimate goal of linux wider adoption on the desktop market, or is that not what most distros are shooting for
[10:35] <tritium> membreya, yes, because intel_agp is loaded
[10:35] <aqtis> its a soft link to /usr/lib/java/plugin/...
[10:35] <blizah> fit in the top bar...
[10:35] <tritium> membreya, lsmod | grep agp
[10:35] <NixerX> edge,  dpkg -r | --remove | -P | --purge package ...
[10:35] <gxx_> tritium: k
[10:35] <holyhacker> i dont understand what you meen
[10:35] <membreya> lsmod | grep agp show's nothing :|
[10:35] <NixerX> its dpkg not apt-get sorry.
[10:35] <aqtis> holyhacker: its a soft link to /usr/lib/java/plugin/... to whereever firefox/plugins lives
[10:35] <holyhacker> im kinda new to linux
[10:35] <holyhacker> oh ok then
[10:35] <tritium> gxx_, so if you're on later this evening, I'll get back to you
[10:35] <aqtis> mee too
[10:36] <membreya> there's _no_ agp modules loaded tritium :\
[10:36] <aqtis> look for the apropriate lib*.so file
[10:36] <aqtis> in the /usr/lib/java/plugins
[10:36] <aqtis> there are choices to make
[10:36] <NixerX> well im gonna go sharpen the 'ol shovel
[10:37] <aqtis> but the  plugin  opnly works properly as a soft link
[10:37] <NixerX> have a good one folks.
[10:37] <tritium> membreya, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what's loading
[10:37] <kotatsu> something that has puzzled me for a while... when I run a GUI app using sudo/gksudo it of course uses root's desktop (gtk, icon, etc.) settings... is there any way to make it use the user's desktop settings instead?
[10:39] <membreya> tritium: am I just looking for AGP in that log?
[10:39] <membreya> the only real reference I can find is (**) NVIDIA(0): Use of NVIDIA internal AGP requested
[10:40] <vixus> Hey, is there an IDE for coding in C++ and with a good wxWindows form designer? There's my question, straight up! :-)
[10:40] <devazion> vixus, kdevelop has always done the job for me
[10:41] <vixus> 1. Kdevelop develops Qt applications for use on KDE.
[10:41] <tritium> membreya, yes.
[10:41] <tritium> Sorry, I'm going to have to get going.
[10:41] <vixus> 2. wxWindows can be ported to Windows
[10:41] <tritium> I'll be back in a few hours.
[10:41] <tritium> bye!
[10:41] <vixus> 3. KDevelop can't be altered to use wxWindows can it?
[10:41] <vixus> devazion.
[10:42] <devazion> vixus sure not... please tell me about it... kdevelop has many libraries, ofc its mainly for developing for Kde lib... but wxwidgets work very well in kdevelop
[10:42] <devazion> vixus cant qt be ported to windows lol?
[10:42] <Riddell> vixus: kdevelop works for many languages and libraries
[10:42] <Pineapples10> ok, i got my respoitories set up and apt is working now, but what if I want to install a package that instal available through apt?
[10:43] <vixus> devazion: Oh, yeah, but yesterday I asked this question and everyone goes: "USE WXWINDOWS!!"
[10:43] <djp> Pineapples10: what are you trying to install?
[10:43] <devazion> vixus well, qt aint "totally" free...
[10:43] <Pineapples10> dvdrip
[10:43] <vixus> I am mainly a GNOME user too. ;-)
[10:43] <vixus> KDE isn't installed anyhoo
[10:43] <Riddell> devazion: qt is entirely Free Software
[10:43] <djp> Pineapples10: are you using warty or hoary?
[10:43] <Pineapples10> hoary
[10:44] <devazion> Riddell sure i know, but its not free of charge for commercial use
[10:44] <Riddell> devazion: it is as long as you keep to the GPL
[10:44] <devazion> Riddell "not true either" im making it simple for mr im new to program here! :)
[10:44] <blizah> once i install fluxbox how will i switch between fluxbox and gnome?
[10:44] <djp> Pineapples10: that should be installable through apt... try using synaptic and search there for dvdrip
[10:44] <Pineapples10> alright, will do...
[10:44] <blizah> at login?
[10:44] <vixus> How do I alter KDevelop to use wxWindows (will the form designer work?)
[10:44] <devazion> blizah many ways... .Xsession .xinitrc gdm, kdm...
[10:45] <devazion> vixus why you need designer?
[10:45] <devazion> vixus try learning it instead
[10:45] <Riddell> vixus: the form designer won't work, chances are it has templates for wxwindows etc
[10:45] <blizah> devazion can you switch w/ out loging out or rebooting?
[10:45] <vixus> blizah: CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[10:45] <devazion> blizah sure...
[10:45] <devazion> NO VIXUS!
[10:45] <vixus> :o
[10:45] <vixus> Without logging out.. right
[10:45] <blizah> hehe
[10:45] <devazion> blizah find process id for fluxbox and kill it, then start gnome
[10:46] <vixus> :x
[10:46] <blizah> k ill give it a go :D
[10:46] <devazion> good luck!
[10:46] <Pineapples10> ok, apt isn't working properly actually, im getting some 404s
[10:46] <devazion> vixus what software are you going to develop? consider learning right toolkit for the right project
[10:47] <devazion> Pineapples10 since when did apt start using HTTP?
[10:47] <Pineapples10> uhm dont ask me ive never used linux before
[10:47] <devazion> Pineapples10 then rtfs
[10:47] <devazion> rtfm*
[10:47] <Pineapples10> I did everything its told  me to, but thanks
[10:47] <devazion> Pineapples10 what is the problem?
[10:48] <membreya> what speeds do people get from glxgears in a terminal ?
[10:48] <devazion> You cant you come say: Im sick gimme medicine
[10:51] <devazion> At what date in april will hoary be released?
[10:51] <pineapples10Ub> this is pineapples10 on my ubuntu machine
[10:52] <devazion> pineapples10Ub sure, you got ten apples? eat em?
[10:52] <vixus> devazion: I just want to make general purpose programs, nothing in particular, in fact, I want to teach myself some coding with GUIs.
[10:52] <pineapples10Ub> yes I ate ten of them and they are delicious
[10:52] <slenter> anyone please help me on this: do you have any idea where i can get cedega for nothing?
[10:53] <hawke_> slenter: No.
[10:53] <hawke_> slenter: not legally anyway
[10:53] <pineapples10Ub> if i run apt-get update I get this error followed by a few similar ones
[10:53] <pineapples10Ub> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages
[10:53] <pineapples10Ub>   404 Not Found
[10:53] <devazion> vixus then start with something easy, like tk. why not python/ruby/tcl/perl and tk?
[10:53] <vixus> I wanted to learn some C++ first, but I may just go for python. Got any useful links?
[10:54] <devazion> vixus www.python.org
[10:54] <slenter> thanks, hawke_; (illegal works for me at the moment... i just want to test it and to "lure" some friends of mine to linux"
[10:54] <devazion> vixus c++ is more reading before you can use it. go with python/ruby
[10:54] <slenter> thanks, hawke_; (illegal works for me at the moment... i just want to test it and to "lure" some friends of mine to linux)
[10:55] <raydogg> can u do a md5 over a whole directory recursively to make sure all files copied correctly ?
[10:56] <vixus> ok... :/
[10:56] <vixus> python it is
[10:56] <hawke_> slenter: it's pretty cheap though...
[10:56] <devazion> vixus why python? did you even consider the others?
[10:57] <devazion> vixus read some, drink a beer. dont start directly
[10:57] <Seveas> vixus, google for "dive into python"
[10:58] <slenter> hawke_: u don't know my friends... ;)
[10:58] <critter> anyone know the default path for wine In Ubutu??
[10:58] <critter> Ubuntu
[11:00] <lachoss> hi!
[11:00] <Seveas> hi!
[11:01] <blizah> k im in gnome and installed fluxbox so how did you say i changed to fluxbox?
[11:01] <lachoss> i'm trying to add some folders to the Places menu, but i can't find out how! i googled around, searched the .gnome, .gnome2 and .nautilus dirs, but found nothing:S any ideas? thanks!
[11:02] <roybattius> is hoary firefox on crack or me? I download a file to my home directory, but when i want to open it with file roller in the download manager I have to "back up" into the filesystem to extract an archive or it'll put in some random-first directory in my home directory
[11:03] <bwlang> roybattius: sounds like a fileroller problem to me...
[11:04] <roybattius> bwlang: yeah, could be right.  freaking fileroller doesn't allow me to extract the directory structure into the home directory, it automagically forces me to put into an existing directory
[11:05] <wolki> Hmmm... somehow my top panel disappears unless i have the mouse over the bottom panel... and i'm not using composite
[11:05] <roybattius> bwlang: so it seems i have to tell firefox to download everything into /home and then my home account will be highligted by fileroller
[11:06] <critter> Trying to install AVG Linux but cant find wine Dir
[11:06] <Pineapples10> this is going to sounds really stupid because it is, how do I find out my local ip through the command line
[11:06] <membreya> just updated to kernel 2.6.10-4 and now my nvidia driver won't load :| doing a modprobe nvidia says module not found, yet if I do an apt-get install nvidia-glx it says the latest version is installed
[11:06] <membreya> any help ? :(
[11:07] <akrabat> Pineapples10: ifconfig
[11:07] <thenuke> http://mirror.isp.net.au/ftp/pub/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/l/limewire/  can I apt-get that somehow?
[11:07] <Seveas> membreya, it's a known problem, it'll be fixed soon
[11:07] <xav> Seveas: madwifi too?
[11:07] <bwlang> roybattius: i don't use fileroller .. dunno
[11:08] <membreya> so when the fix comes down, I just have to do a sudo apt-get upgrade and it will let me load the nvidia module? or will I need to reinstall it ?
[11:08] <xav> I guess update and loading module
[11:08] <Seveas> xav: yes
[11:08] <xav> nice
[11:09] <membreya> so I just need to modprobe it ? It won't complain about symbols?
[11:09] <xav> if its fixed...
[11:09] <xav> lol
[11:09] <Seveas> membreya, as soon as it's fixed
[11:09] <membreya> cool :)
[11:09] <membreya> will just run the nv module :)
[11:09] <Seveas> thenuke, you should add that server to your sources.list
[11:09] <Entity> Hello, I just installed the preview version but it seems I was not asked for root's password... is there a default one?
[11:09] <Seveas> or just download the .deb files and run dpkg -i on them
[11:09] <Seveas> Entity, no
[11:09] <Pineapples10> akrabat, thanks ;-)
[11:10] <critter> Anyone know how eo add exe file to wine tools??
[11:10] <Seveas> there is no root password Entity
[11:10] <critter> to
[11:10] <Seveas> all is sudo
[11:10] <xav> is anyone using muine and/or rhythmbox?
[11:10] <Entity> Seveas, so I need sudo passwd root?
[11:10] <Seveas> if you want a root password per se
[11:11] <Entity> Seveas, because I lauched some admin tools in gnome and it asked for its password
[11:11] <critter> Any Help with Wine?
[11:11] <Seveas> then you need *your own* password, Entity
[11:11] <Seveas> those things use gksudo
[11:11] <viper12> the latest hoary kernel.......what should its uname look like? (heavy probs with the updates.)
[11:11] <Entity> Seveas, ok let's try it, thanks :)
[11:12] <xav> viper12: dont upgrade
[11:12] <membreya> nope, need my GLX, rebooting to old kernel :)
[11:12] <MrKeuner> hi, I did a baad thing. I installed a deb package which was probably poorly designed. dpkg -i installed it with some warnings. And i cannot remove it now. -->subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127.
[11:12] <MrKeuner> what can I do?
[11:12] <critter> Are there any virus scanners in universe???
[11:13] <xav> u are afraid of virus ?
[11:13] <critter> No just a cold from time to time
[11:13] <viper12> a lil late for that.  xav. the primary box is borked because of it.  no nvidia, and no wireless........and it looks like no matter what I try to do in grub, i'm stuck with 2.6.10-4 or 2.6.10-3.
[11:13] <MrKeuner> critter/ clamav
[11:13] <Seveas> MrKeuner, you can inspect the deb contents and remove it by hand
[11:13] <Pineapples10> how can I install a package that isnt available through apt?
[11:13] <critter> MrKeuner TY
[11:14] <Seveas> Pineapples10, dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:14] <viper12> its funny, same update on the laptop worked...but no gl acceleration on the ati driver either.  wtf did they do?
[11:14] <MrKeuner> Seveas/ what about reporting to dpkg? Won't dpkg think that it is still installed?
[11:14] <Seveas> Pineapples10, if you don't have a deb file either: read the INSTALL file
[11:14] <Seveas> MrKeuner, yes
[11:15] <xav> viper12: restricted-modules doesnt work
[11:15] <xav> maybe it just wasnt updated
[11:15] <Seveas> you can also try fixung the pre-removal script....
[11:15] <xav> drivers need to be built against the new kernel
[11:15] <xav> with same gcc
[11:15] <MrKeuner> I don't care about the files. I just need dpkg to stop telling me about that preremoval script error
[11:15] <MrKeuner> I cannot fix a script I guess :(
[11:16] <xav> there is a start for everything
[11:17] <viper12> okay, having not had to do this before, what is the command to 'revert' to "yesterday"?  I know its the var/cache/apt/archives, but the particular apt-get command to do so....guess i'm brain farting due to irritation here.
[11:17] <MrKeuner> where is that script?
[11:17] <Pineapples10> i have a deb file, when i run dpkg it says I need a package archive file argument
[11:17] <Seveas> Pineapples10: dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:17] <Pineapples10> thats exactly what I did
[11:17] <Seveas> of course: replace filename.deb by the actual filename :)
[11:18] <punkrockguy318> What metapackage can I install to install all the default ubuntu packages?  ubuntu-desktop?
[11:18] <Pineapples10> hehe, I did that too
[11:18] <Seveas> yes punkrockguy318
[11:18] <Seveas> and it should be installed by default
[11:18] <punkrockguy318> Seveas, yeah, but some stuff got messed up on my upgrade
[11:18] <Seveas> Pineapples10, can you copy the exact error
[11:18] <punkrockguy318> thank you!
[11:19] <punkrockguy318> is there any way to install the nvidia 6111 driver on hoary?
[11:19] <Pineapples10> ok, I got it to work but there are a ton of dependancy problems :(
[11:19] <ju> Hi all ! (Hoary is great !!!)
[11:20] <Seveas> Pineapples10, try apt-get'ing the dependencies
[11:20] <MrKeuner> :) I fixed a script
[11:20] <MrKeuner> it was trying to run update-menus which I do not have for some reason
[11:21] <xav> ubuntu is nice but way too much bugged imo
[11:21] <viper12> if updated to the latest hoary, which kernel should be listed using 'uname -a' ??  (If this answer doesn't match mine, then things have gone south on this box to 'rebuild' from scratchville.
[11:22] <unperson> I wanted to show someone Ubuntu with one of the live CDs.  I have the old Warty live CD image, but is there a newer *stable* version?  I don't want anything bleeding edge, because a system that has major bugs makes a bad impression.  It looks like there's a hoary milestone Live CD out, but I really can't tell which, if any, is supposed to be stable and most recent.
[11:22] <xav> maybe wait for hoary to be released
[11:22] <phosphorgreen> yeah less than a month now unperson
[11:22] <viper12> xav, you get that query?
[11:22] <Seveas> xav, hoary isn't final so you cannot expect it to be bug free
[11:23] <viper12> or anyone?
[11:23] <Seveas> xav, use warty if you want stable things
[11:23] <viper12> lol
[11:23] <unperson> Xav: You talking to me?
[11:23] <HiddenWolf> unperson: the latest hoary livecd will work just fine in 99% of the cases, it'll just be more polished in the coming weeks before release
[11:23] <Pineapples10> Seveas, those seem to have dependencies of their own and wont install either, i never though gentoo would be easier than ubuntu!
[11:23] <xav> unperson: yes I thought the same as HiddenWolf
[11:24] <xav> Seveas: well yes I don't know wtf I downloaded a hoary cd. certainly because I saw it in the topic there :p
[11:24] <Seveas> Pineapples10, can't you add the source where you got that .deb to your sources.lis
[11:24] <unperson> Ok.  I just wasn't sure if the live CD release cycle was out of phase with the install distro release cycle.
[11:24] <unperson> I guess the answer is no.
[11:25] <Pineapples10> Seveas, from what others have told me it should be available through apt (DVDRIP) but it does not work for me
[11:25] <xav> but hoary's features are a lot nicer than warty's. if only it wasnt that bugged
[11:25] <unperson> In which case, I'll get give him a copy of the Warty Live for now.  It'll still be a lot newer than whatever old Red Hat he's using.
[11:25] <Seveas> they are (almost) completely sync unperson
[11:25] <Pineapples10> I can try adding it to source.lis I guess
[11:25] <awb4422> i have the gstreaner0.8-mad package, but i can't use rhythmbox to playback mp3s.. anyone have any idea why?
[11:25] <Seveas> Pineapples10, dvdrip cannot be supported, that's why it is more difficult to install
[11:26] <xav> awb4422: all mp3 ? and only mp3 ?
[11:26] <Seveas> you can find install instructions on the Ubuntu wiki
[11:26] <awb4422> xav: yes, all and only mp3
[11:26] <xav> fuck
[11:26] <Pineapples10> alright ill give that a try
[11:26] <xav> awb4422: well check that there are no non mp3 files in your directory
[11:26] <xav> like jpg,...
[11:27] <awb4422> the error message i get: "could not open resource for writing" and "could not pause playback"
[11:27] <Pineapples10> Seveas, so basically I cannot install it then
[11:27] <awb4422> nothing else is in those dir's, only 3 cd's that i ripped to mp3
[11:27] <unperson> Ok, well, I've got to go.  Thanks for the lowdown on the live CD issue.
[11:27] <rattboi> anyone have issues with ALSA in Hoary recently?
[11:27] <xav> awb4422: I see this error a lot
[11:27] <rattboi> I think a recent update hosed my soundcard somehow
[11:27] <xav> awb4422: u are using hoary?
[11:27] <awb4422> warty
[11:27] <xav> it may be fixed in hoary
[11:28] <pofo> to what runlevel i must set inittab so i get rid of gdm ??
[11:28] <Seveas> Pineapples10, of courxe you can
[11:28] <unperson> awb4422:  Did you try any mp3s not made yourself?
[11:28] <xav> anyway just search for it in google or in bugzilla, you'll find stuff about it
[11:28] <unperson> awb4422:  I mean, are we sure the problem is with playback and not with the files?
[11:28] <xav> unperson: its a known bug
[11:28] <awb4422> actually, i think its with my sound
[11:29] <awb4422> it was working before, but not i can't raise the volume. when i try to do that, it just goes back to the bottom
[11:29] <unperson> Ok, I'm out.  Good luck.
[11:29] <awb4422> "sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found"
[11:29] <awb4422> this is interesting..
[11:29] <rattboi> awb4422,  I'm getting a similar deal
[11:29] <rattboi> are you running Hoary?
[11:29] <Laney> can i do a http install?
[11:29] <xav> why not
[11:29] <xav> rattboi: no
[11:30] <Seveas> Laney, what do you mean by 'http install'
[11:30] <Pineapples10> Seveas, if I try to install 'transcode' i get package transcode has no installation candidate
[11:30] <viper12> since apparently know one saw my question...i'll be askin' it again:
[11:30] <rattboi> I had sound, and I haven't changed my settings, so I guess a recent update has messed up my alsa
[11:30] <viper12> if updated to the latest hoary, which kernel should be listed using 'uname -a' ??  (If this answer doesn't match mine, then things have gone south on this box to 'rebuild' from scratchville.
[11:30] <Seveas> Pineapples10, you have to find sources for it
[11:30] <rattboi> alsa stuff is in the kernel in 2.6, right?
[11:30] <xav> viper12: search on ubuntu site
[11:30] <Pineapples10> gotcha
[11:30] <xav> viper12: you can browse all package there
[11:31] <Laney> Well, I remember doing it with redhat once. Doesn't have to be http; what I did was download a floppy image or two and then give it a web address and it downloded things on the fly
[11:31] <viper12> xav...if someone in here updated TODAY, then all they havta' do is do a uname -a and let me know what they are showing.
[11:31] <Seveas> Pineapples10, add the marillat sources to your sources.list
[11:31] <pofo> how do i get rid of GDM on hoary ??
[11:31] <Seveas> you can find details of how to do that on the wiki
[11:31] <Seveas> then you can install transcode and dvdrip and stuff
[11:31] <pofo> thanks
[11:31] <awb4422> I have an inspiron 8200, i found a hit on google about alsa problems...
[11:31] <xav> viper12: it seems its too complicated for them :)
[11:31] <phosphorgreen> any1 know how to get procmail working in warty?
[11:32] <Seveas> pofo, that was not for you but for Pineapples10 :)
[11:33] <viper12> feh.  this update right after a pre-release version seems a mess. I'll check back in later.
[11:34] <xav> lol
[11:34] <dabi> im trying to use apache2 with my ubuntu (prev. ver.) but i got this error: apache2
[11:34] <dabi> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind t o address [::] :80
[11:34] <dabi> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[11:34] <dabi> Unable to open logs
[11:34] <dabi> Does ubuntu have firewall what disallows it? how can i turn it off from port 80?
[11:34] <miso> hello
[11:34] <Seveas> dabi, do you run it as root?
[11:34] <phosphorgreen> dabi, check your firewall
[11:34] <dabi> no
[11:34] <xav> lol I'm glad I have not ubuntu on my pc
[11:34] <miso> is there a ubuntu/ppc chanell?
[11:34] <Seveas> dabi, you should
[11:35] <Seveas> only root can bind to port 80
[11:35] <dabi> ok
[11:35] <dabi> hmm
[11:35] <dabi> ok :) lol..
[11:35] <Seveas> and you should start it with its initscript....
[11:35] <phosphorgreen> yeah like:
[11:35] <phosphorgreen> sudo bash
[11:35] <dabi> how?
[11:35] <Seveas> miso, there is no separate ppc channel
[11:35] <phosphorgreen> #/etc/init.d/apache2 start
[11:35] <desrt_gabriel> don't sudo bash
[11:35] <rattboi> hmm
[11:35] <desrt_gabriel> sudo su -
[11:35] <phosphorgreen> why not sudo bash
[11:35] <Seveas> dabi, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[11:35] <rattboi> synaptic update found new kernel package, and now sound is ok
[11:35] <rattboi> good deal
[11:35] <MrKeuner> why doesn't applications:/// work in nautilus?
[11:36] <awb4422> http://ubuntu-inspiron.blogspot.com/
[11:36] <awb4422> i found this site
[11:36] <desrt_gabriel> MrKeuner; it's not in 2.10
[11:36] <Seveas> MrKeuner, in gnome 2.10 the menu approach is different
[11:36] <desrt_gabriel> MrKeuner; 2.10 uses the new freedesktop.org menu system.  it works differently.
[11:36] <phosphorgreen> how do you upgrade to hoary from warty?
[11:36] <phosphorgreen> i cant find the faq
[11:36] <MrKeuner> how does it go now?
[11:36] <rattboi> phosphorgreen, it's there
[11:36] <Seveas> phosphorgreen, edit your sources.list, change every occurence of warty to hoary and update :)
[11:36] <rattboi> all you have to do is change your sources.list
[11:37] <rattboi> ah, Seveas beat me
[11:37] <Seveas> MrKeuner, it doesn't go....
[11:37] <pofo> :/
[11:37] <Seveas> there is no way yet to manually edit the menu
[11:37] <pofo> so thats why i cant find it
[11:37] <pofo> hehe
[11:37] <Hell-Razor> when will the horay thing be released?
[11:37] <desrt_gabriel> man
[11:37] <jesuel> Well new kernel with latest update and now ati drivers are broken...
[11:37] <Seveas> lol pofo
[11:37] <desrt_gabriel> i can't wait until i can get home and run apt-get update
[11:37] <MrKeuner> Seveas/ I see ok
[11:37] <Seveas> Hell-Razor, in april
[11:37] <desrt_gabriel> it's so exciting
[11:38] <Seveas> pofo: you could chmod -x the gdm initscript :)
[11:38] <pofo> what run level should i change it to ??
[11:38] <rattboi> jesuel, same here :(
[11:38] <pofo> where is it ?
[11:38] <rattboi> didn't notice till you said something
[11:38] <pofo>  /etc ?
[11:38] <Rafael_Kafka> Good night, i installed Ubuntu today and is my first ditro with grub, how i can update grub configuration after change his conf?
[11:38] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, alright,,,will it be a upgrade? or a reformat + install
[11:38] <Seveas> jesuel, rattboi, all restricted_modules are broken
[11:38] <rattboi> Rafael_Kafka, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:38] <critter> Does Anyone Know What the default path is to wine program ? In ubuntu
[11:38] <Seveas> Hell-Razor, you can do what you want
[11:39] <Seveas> upgrading is even very simply
[11:39] <phosphorgreen> critter type which wine
[11:39] <jesuel> goddamit :(
[11:39] <MrKeuner> Rafael_Kafka/ you don't need to if you have already finished with menu.lst
[11:39] <Pineapples10> couldnt stat source package list AHHHHH
[11:39] <rattboi> Seveas, there was an updated restricted modules package
[11:39] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, i would like to upgrade...is it possible i can upgrade now?
[11:39] <Rafael_Kafka> i did look, change, but in lilo we nedd type lilo in shell, in grub this is necessary?
[11:39] <Seveas> pofo, /etc/init.d/
[11:39] <critter> ok
[11:39] <Tuxadermist> So, the plan is to leave us on the weekend with no working nvidia drivers ?
[11:39] <jesuel> rattboi: yup
[11:39] <rattboi> Rafael_Kafka, nope
[11:39] <pi> Does anybody know the proper way to set Xorg to be the default environment after doing a dist-upgrade?
[11:39] <MrKeuner> Rafael_Kafka/ grub doen't need that last step
[11:40] <pofo> thank you
[11:40] <jesuel> *sigh*
[11:40] <Seveas> Tuxadermist, i don't know
[11:40] <Tuxadermist> Good plan
[11:40] <Seveas> rattboi, since when?
[11:40] <rattboi> Seveas, so what should we do?
[11:40] <jesuel> Not happy atm
[11:40] <Pineapples10> you guys, linux is crazy and you are all geniuses
[11:40] <Rafael_Kafka> MrKeuner, thank you very much
[11:40] <rattboi> Seveas, since I updated a few seconds ago
[11:40] <Seveas> ah ok
[11:40] <phosphorgreen> does hoary rock ? i am apt-get upgrading now :)
[11:40] <Seveas> thank you!
[11:40] <rattboi> I saw the restricted-modules package upgrade
[11:40] <jesuel> i saw it as well
[11:40] <Seveas> so Hell-Razor, that must be now :)
[11:40] <LinuxJones> phosphorgreen, I am sure you will like it :)
[11:41] <Rafael_Kafka> it' amazing have gnome in the same day that the sources was liberated!
[11:41] <rattboi> I don't know what I should do...
[11:41] <Rafael_Kafka> i never see this, this is magic!
[11:41] <rattboi> compiling the ATI driver is kinda sucky
[11:41] <Seveas> Rafael_Kafka, hoary even had it before that :)
[11:42] <rattboi> I tried it without success last time
[11:42] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, huh
[11:42] <Rafael_Kafka> Seveas, my friends are very entusiastics here in brazil,
[11:42] <Seveas> Hell-Razor, you can update the restricted-modules now
[11:42] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, alright
[11:42] <pi> I upgraded to hoary, and XFree is still installed and running by default...does anybody know what i can do to run Xorg instead?
[11:43] <rattboi> pi, are you sure you're running xfree?
[11:43] <rattboi> cause xorg can use the old xfree config sometimes
[11:43] <Rafael_Kafka> Seveas, we will build a brazilian-portuguese community for ubuntu
[11:43] <Seveas> Pi, that is odd behaviour, I think you should contact a developer (#ubuntu-devel or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:43] <rattboi> it's just symlinked to the new one
[11:43] <pi> rattboi: yes
[11:44] <pi> pi@AXP:~ $ ps aux |grep X ->root      7109  5.3  4.8  56884 50404 ?        RL   17:31   0:41 /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[11:44] <awb4422> ok still no dice on the sound
[11:44] <_adw_> hey, on my warthog release i had this app in my top-left showing wirelss network strength in %, anyone know where this went in hoary?
[11:44] <critter> phosphorgreen Is this what you mean ?? Wine version 0.0.20040615-lubutul (warty)
[11:45] <Seveas> _adw_ right-click on the panel, select add to panel and select the link reporter
[11:46] <Madeye> anyone can dns easyhttp.com and paste the result to me?
[11:46] <_adw_> Seveas: i dont have link reporter there, should i try apt?
[11:47] <Seveas> easyhttp.com.           14400   IN      A       <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:47] <IRCsloth> Anyone here having a problem with USB optical Mice and Warty?
[11:47] <omniscient> nope
[11:47] <omniscient> works straight away
[11:47] <omniscient> :D
[11:47] <IRCsloth> A couple times a day I have a unplug/replug the mouse because it goes dead
[11:48] <Seveas> IRCsloth, i have that problem only with red hat
[11:48] <IRCsloth> I don't think it's USB subsystem related since my USB keyboard works fine
[11:48] <Seveas> sometimes happens when you hold the shift or control key and click a button
[11:48] <Seveas> and it's all red hat machines at my work that have this problem :)
[11:49] <IRCsloth> maybe I'll try one of those usb -> PS/2 connectors I have laying around
[11:49] <spacenuts> I got a problem adding custom repositories
[11:49] <IRCsloth> it's quite annoying
[11:49] <Seveas> spacenuts, what's the problem?
[11:49] <spacenuts> I am willing to add DDV support
[11:49] <spacenuts> using this tutor http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:49] <Skaaa> Please message me if you have any info on why it has been frozen on 38% installed for 20 minutes.
[11:49] <spacenuts> therfor I have to add the marillat server
[11:50] <jesuel> grr
[11:50] <Rafael_Kafka> Seveas, the fstab configuration can use lines from other distros, i can copy or i need do diffenret?
[11:50] <spacenuts> and I did the following
[11:50] <jesuel> yeah ati non functional still *sob*
[11:50] <Seveas> Rafael_Kafka if the drives are the same and the mount points exist, you can copy them
[11:50] <Skaaa> please message me if you can give me some info on my probelms installing.
[11:50] <spacenuts> echo deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:50] <Seveas> jesuel, there seems to be an update now
[11:50] <spacenuts> as said in http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:50] <Seveas> that's wrong
[11:51] <spacenuts> apt-get update gives the following
[11:51] <Rafael_Kafka> Seveas, Thank you
[11:51] <spacenuts> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[11:51] <spacenuts> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[11:51] <Skaaa> can anyone help me with installation problems?
[11:51] <Entity> in order to add restricted formats support on my hoary box, what repo you suggest?
[11:51] <Skaaa> i boot up fine with live CD
[11:51] <Seveas> spacenuts, try apt-get update again
[11:51] <jesuel> Seveas: Calculating Upgrade... Done0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:51] <Skaaa> but i tired to install and it is stuck on 38% installed
[11:51] <desrt_gabriel> Entity; multiverse, marillat
[11:51] <Rafael_Kafka> Seveas, i did the mount points doing mkdir /dev/hdx /media/hdx
[11:51] <spacenuts> Seveas: already done that
[11:51] <desrt_gabriel> Seveas; this doesn't help
[11:52] <spacenuts> Entity: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:52] <desrt_gabriel> spacenuts; it's not a big deal.  every time you go to install a pacakge from restricted formats it will just say to you "are you sure you want to install this unverified package?"
[11:52] <Entity> spacenuts, I come from that link, that why I was asking
[11:52] <desrt_gabriel> and you have to say 'y'
[11:52] <Rafael_Kafka> spacenuts, i did not have problems with packages without signatures
[11:52] <MaxeyPad> this is somewhat off topic, but are there any good NES emulators for linux
[11:52] <Seveas> spacenuts, than you, i never had the problem myself (still warty) but some people said that running apt-get update twice helped
[11:52] <spacenuts> gabriel: that's not the problem
[11:52] <empty4620> so what are the improvements in Hoary?? Will I be able to play music and video without installing mplayer now?
[11:53] <desrt_gabriel> MaxeyPad; original NES?
[11:53] <omniscient> empty i just use vlc
[11:53] <spacenuts> Seveas: sorry for not mentioning, I am using hoary preview release
[11:53] <djst> empty4620:  not woutout installing the plugins
[11:53] <omniscient> does most of what mplayer does without plugins
[11:53] <empty4620> vlc, hmm, yes, but did hoary get rid of the non-functioning totem and stuff?
[11:53] <mattgirv> Hi
[11:53] <Seveas> hi mattgirv
[11:54] <mattgirv> :( Another sleepless night of non-3d acceleration in the world of ati
[11:54] <mattgirv> :P
[11:54] <spacenuts> is my line in sources.list correct
[11:54] <spacenuts> for hoary?
[11:54] <Skaaa> CAN ANYONE HELP A LINUX NEWBIE WITH INSTALLATION ERRORS?
[11:54] <empty4620> okay I'll check vlc out
[11:54] <Skaaa> I AM USING WARTY
[11:54] <Seveas> Skaaa, not if you have more details about the error....
[11:54] <Hell-Razor> Skaaa: installation errors...how so
[11:54] <spacenuts> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[11:54] <Skaaa> well
[11:54] <desrt_gabriel> Skaaa; only sheep use warty :)
[11:54] <Seveas> Skaaa, my first guess: bad cd, burn a new one
[11:54] <Skaaa> it has no message
[11:54] <mattgirv> could anyone assist me with the ati drivers?
[11:54] <Skaaa> no
[11:54] <MaxeyPad> yeh original NES
[11:54] <Skaaa> this isnt a burned
[11:54] <Seveas> desrt_gabriel, only testers run hoary
[11:54] <desrt_gabriel> MaxeyPad; emerge ati-drivers :)
[11:54] <Hell-Razor> Skaaa, comon what is the error
[11:55] <Skaaa> this is an original cd
[11:55] <Seveas> people who want stability run warty
[11:55] <Skaaa> no error, its just stuck at 38%
[11:55] <desrt_gabriel> mattgirv; emerge ati-drivers, rather :)
[11:55] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel, i miss gentoo
[11:55] <Skaaa> for installation
[11:55] <Hell-Razor> restart
[11:55] <Hell-Razor> and try again
[11:55] <mattgirv> desrt_gabriel, hmm i am on hoary
[11:55] <desrt_gabriel> Hell-Razor; ya.  that'll happen :)
[11:55] <Seveas> Skaaa, restart installation
[11:55] <desrt_gabriel> mattgirv; there's a wikipage on binary drivers
[11:55] <Skaaa> ok
[11:55] <mattgirv> and this is ubuntu.. there isnt emerge
[11:55] <mattgirv> :/
[11:55] <Skaaa> by the way
[11:55] <InitMass> how do i make xmms use /dev/dsp1 and skype use /dev/dsp with the help of esd?
[11:55] <mattgirv> you gentoo whore you! :p
[11:55] <Skaaa> this is a mismatched computer
[11:55] <Skaaa> i just built from three old ones
[11:55] <MaxeyPad> rocknes, is a semi-working emulator for linux
[11:55] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel, yea i miss the gentoo-ness of linux...so far nothing even comes close to how good it is
[11:56] <desrt_gabriel> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:56] <Skaaa> the hard drive is unpartitioned
[11:56] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel, gentoo that is
[11:56] <desrt_gabriel> mattgirv; ^^ go here
[11:56] <Skaaa> ill try restart
[11:56] <Hell-Razor> Skaaa, then partition it
[11:56] <MaxeyPad> I was curious how do I enable 4 channel sound in beep?  I was told to use alsa earlier, but when I switch to alsa it just crashes
[11:56] <desrt_gabriel> Hell-Razor; ubuntu seems like it might be acceptable to throw on a machine that you never use
[11:56] <spacenuts> anyone got those unofficial reps going in hoary?
[11:56] <Skaaa> well it partitions on its own
[11:56] <mattgirv> desrt_gabriel, this will work fine with hoary yes?
[11:56] <Skaaa> when u put the cd in
[11:56] <desrt_gabriel> Hell-Razor; like, i mean, a machine that other people use and expect to work, but generally don't try and do anything fancy with
[11:56] <Seveas> desrt_gabriel, if you dont like ubuntu, why are you here?
[11:57] <Skaaa> the thing is when i try to partition on this computer, it has an error partitioning
[11:57] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel, lol i use my machine all the time..the thing i hate about this thuogh is linux has such shitti 64bit stuff that i ended up having to just stay with the 32bit install and im not about to install gentoo all over again...its such a pain in the ass for gentoo
[11:57] <desrt_gabriel> Seveas; because i haven't decided yet
[11:57] <spacenuts> Seveas: have you got any clues left for me?
[11:57] <Skaaa> the default ubantu partitioner seems to do fine
[11:57] <critter> Anyone know of any GUI virus scanner . That actully works ?
[11:58] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel: all i really want to do is game, download music, burn/rip dvd's (i mean backup my dvds =), and listen to music
[11:58] <Seveas> Hell-Razor, stick to windows :p
[11:58] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, so far i have everthing working great...except the gaming part
[11:58] <desrt_gabriel> Hell-Razor; i doubt ubuntu is right for you, then
[11:59] <Skaaa> yeah im putting linux on this computer so i can use it as a call of duty server and ventrilo server for my CoD clan
[11:59] <Hell-Razor> Seveas, and you couldny pay me to use windows
[11:59] <Hell-Razor> desrt_gabriel, heh well its working great so far
[11:59] <desrt_gabriel> gentoo is better at gaming, ripping dvds and listening to music
[11:59] <spacenuts> Hell-Razor, unlees your satisfied with Mayjong, get a WinPC or a game consoel
[11:59] <Seveas> I play lots of games under linux
[11:59] <Seveas> it's called programming :)
[11:59] <desrt_gabriel> :)
[11:59] <Seveas> and debugging :)
[11:59] <Hell-Razor> spacenuts, mayjong?
[11:59] <desrt_gabriel> gcc - the greatest console of them all
[11:59] <Seveas> no!
[12:00] <Seveas> gdb :)
[12:00] <topyli> spacenuts: hey, xgalaga works well. and nethack! :)


  Happy Tuesday, and happy Go For Broke Day! 😃  🎰
[09:13] <SuperMatt> JamesTait: go for broke? I do that every time I say "yes, ok, we'll buy that if you stop bugging me" to my girlfriend
[09:14] <JamesTait> SuperMatt, wait until you have kids!
[09:15] <SuperMatt> I'm hoping to be sterile before that happens
[09:15]  * SuperMatt stands in front of the microwave for long periods of time
[09:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE
[09:20] <TwistedLucidity> SuperMatt: Wear tight pants and wrap your cheese in cling-film
[09:20] <TwistedLucidity> And no, "cheese" is not a euphamism
[09:28] <SuperMatt> wait, what?
[09:28] <SuperMatt> Why does wrapping cheese in clingfilm reduce sperm?
[09:30] <SuperMatt> ok, even the guardian says it (as does the daily fail), so it may be credible
[09:30] <TwistedLucidity> It's the PVC. Acts like a female hormone.
[09:32] <TwistedLucidity> Basically, don't wrap high-fat foods in cling-film. Or use PVC-free if you do.
[09:33] <TwistedLucidity> Interesting, Wiki says "myth" but cites no source. Probably a shill for "Big Wrap"! :-P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_wrap#Materials_used
[12:24] <knightWork> awefully quiet here this afternoon i must say
[12:25]  * brobostigon has been doing job search.
[13:14] <zmoylan-pi> IS THIS BETTER? :-P
[13:16] <Azelphur> Figure this might interest people, I've been speedtesting my internet connection (70mbit openreach fiber) every 15 minutes since September 2015. 11,422 speedtests. Generated some fun data http://home.azelphur.com/speedtest-results/
[13:47] <diddledan> Azelphur: you should make a graph for the whole duration in addition to daily ones :-p
[13:49] <Azelphur> diddledan: a chart with that many points would likely destroy the universe, if I reduced the number of points it probably wouldn't have the resolution required to see the dips
[13:49] <diddledan> hmm
[13:51] <knightWork> brobostigon: any luck finding something you like ,
[13:52] <brobostigon> knightWork: a couple yes.
[18:08] <AuroraAvenue> Could we make a Made In Italy Ubuntu App for Amazon ? http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?ie=UTF8&node=7165873031
[18:15] <AuroraAvenue> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egvOMRpGIFo
[19:04] <AuroraAvenue> SuperEngineer: Hiya o/
[19:11] <SuperEngineer> 0/
[19:15] <diddledan> o/
[19:21] <SuperEngineer> Anyone ever wondered how many / how fast those freenode disks must be spinning... & doing it for free!
[19:22] <SuperEngineer> and then compared that to their employer?  ;-)
[19:22] <daftykins> disks? tape you mean ;)
[19:22] <diddledan> freenode disks?
[19:22] <SuperEngineer> tape, of course... or the punch card operator even!
[19:23] <AuroraAvenue> Note really; as they are a split network-in one spinning disk from 1998.
[19:23] <SuperEngineer> :)
[19:23] <diddledan> eh?
[19:23] <AuroraAvenue> Anything good on the Beeb, lately ?
[19:23] <daftykins> AuroraAvenue: i think your humour detector is off
[19:24] <AuroraAvenue> daftykins: Not really, I'm just qoting from an interview with the founder from www.hope.net
[19:24] <diddledan> IRC doesn't use much disk activity...
[19:25] <AuroraAvenue> Lets have a look If I'm off though : http://strawpoll.me/7287964
[19:40] <AuroraAvenue> I guess this isn't a polling booth :-)
[19:42] <mapps> hi
[19:42] <AuroraAvenue> Hi mapps :)
[19:42] <daftykins> \o
[19:44] <AuroraAvenue> https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4dhexr/ubuntustrawpoll_who_thinks_microsofts_windows/
[19:44] <AuroraAvenue> Here too.
[19:45] <AuroraAvenue> getting allot of animosity over microsoft on that post ;)
[19:46] <daftykins> well it is reddit, where the foaming-at-the-mouth and echo chamber types reside
[19:47] <AuroraAvenue> hey stop that - I love Mister_Splashy_Pants
[19:47] <AuroraAvenue> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Splashy_Pants
[19:48]  * SuperEngineer bets AuroraAvenue gets allot of smiles over the use of allot ;)
[19:48] <daftykins> :)
[19:48] <AuroraAvenue> its American
[19:49]  * AuroraAvenue says hello to our Trump-overlords.
[19:49] <AuroraAvenue> America is so broke ;)
[19:49]  * daftykins looks at the channel name
[19:50] <AuroraAvenue> troo.
[19:50] <daftykins> ah yes it's our favourite nick hopping IoM-ite
[19:50] <AuroraAvenue> Any UK news, then ?
[19:51] <daftykins> bam, ignored and the trouble is gone
[19:52] <AuroraAvenue> people change.
[19:53] <SuperEngineer> :)
[20:01] <diddledan> daftykins: who dat?
[20:02] <diddledan> any git-lovers? git-merge conference is currently live: http://git-merge.com/
[20:06] <daftykins> did they merge all the attendees?
[20:06] <daftykins> thanks i'm here all week
[20:12] <SuperEngineer> lol
[20:47] <i1545> !Pondering Katerina Diamond - The Teacher (epub).rar
[20:47] <lubotu3`> i1545: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:47] <daftykins> i hope that's creative commons
[20:48] <i1545> !Pondering Katerina Diamond - The Teacher (epub).rar
[20:48] <lubotu3`> i1545: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[20:48] <daftykins> i1545: can you stop that...
[20:57] <popey> how odd
[20:57] <daftykins> mmm
[21:04] <ali1234> is bash on windows out yet?
[21:06] <daftykins> hmm i never even went back to my VM to see if i'd get offered the new build
[21:06] <ali1234> there was a new build last night
[21:06] <diddledan> ali1234: I heard tomorrow was the plan
[21:07] <ali1234> 14295
[21:07] <diddledan> that's been around for a while
[21:09] <ali1234> it wasn't available when i installed
[21:10] <ali1234> not to me anyway
[21:10] <diddledan> yeah it takes a while for the system to offer a build the first-time
[21:12] <daftykins> i was surprised the site didn't have a newer image
[21:30] <directhex_> ali1234: soon.
[21:37] <diddledan> tomorrow!
[21:37] <diddledan> :-p
[21:38] <diddledan> I'm wondering what is gonna happen to the ui-related mono stuff
[22:09] <daftykins> Azelphur: any news on the NHS fun?
[22:09] <Azelphur> daftykins: nah, I asked for a callback on Monday but haven't been called back yet, will call again tomorrow
[22:11] <daftykins> ah har


[05:55] <krish> anyone there??
[05:58] <krish> i guess no one's there...
[06:04] <dholbach> good morning
[14:52] <azvezdev> yo
[15:02] <mhall119> o/
[15:02] <nik90> hello o/
[15:02] <pleia2> o/
[15:03] <nik90> hi pleia2, nice to have you in the hangout
[15:03] <pleia2> nik90: thanks :)
[15:03] <mhall119> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam
[15:04] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2868/
[15:06] <mhall119> if you have any questions please ask them in here
[15:07] <mhall119> start them with QUESTION in all caps like that so we don't miss them
[15:07] <priyanshuid> QUESTION : why can't we have hostapd, preinstalled with ubuntu.. users have to configure it everytime. The current hotspot does not connects to android and other mobile devices
[15:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Woop Ubuntu :P
[15:08] <balloons> http://harvest.ubuntu.com/
[15:09] <yuwash> cute androids
[15:09] <ChloeWolfieGirl> yuwash: truee dat!
[15:10] <nik90> mhall119: we should harvest.ubuntu.com to show bitesize bugs in the core apps
[15:10] <nik90> have*
[15:10] <mhall119> nik90: yes we should
[15:14] <LinusAnon> The Xubuntu menue is awesome
[15:16] <LinusAnon> QUESTION: Elizabeth, is there a option to get window snapping under Xubuntu like under Ubuntu with Unity?
[15:17] <mhall119> #xubuntu-devel
[15:17] <balloons> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[15:20] <LinusAnon> Ahh cool
[15:26] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter
[15:26] <LinusAnon> QUESTION: Is there a version of Xubuntu for Chromebooks available? Or is a version planned?
[15:28] <balloons> more info on joining: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Join
[15:28] <belkinsa> #ubuntu-news the channel
[15:29] <mrbrownstone3g> QUESTION:  Is there any news on image based ubuntu server?
[15:30] <yuwash> LinusAnon: Chromebooks: for ARM machines the best thing you can do is the virtual setup with crouton
[15:30] <kapanda> QUESTION: I want to setup my own Ubuntu community in midrand Johannesburg because I just recently opened an internet cafe where I am freely giving different flavours of Ubuntu, how do I go about doing that.
[15:31] <belkinsa> Mailing list link: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-news-team
[15:31] <belkinsa> I don't why I am doing this.  ;)
[15:31] <LinusAnon> yawash: There is a fork of the "normal" Ubuntu for ARM Machienes. Mabey there is something like that of Xubuntu.
[15:32] <yuwash> For me it was a bit buggy
[15:32] <pleia2> thanks belkinsa :D
[15:33] <belkinsa> Not a problem.
[15:33] <pleia2> she's one of the new ubuntu women leaders (and lots of other things :))
[15:33] <belkinsa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/belkinsa if you want to see :D
[15:35] <balloons> kapanda, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-za/
[15:38] <mhall119> Any other questions get them in now
[15:39] <balloons> http://help.ubuntu.com/
[15:39] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[15:39] <belkinsa> pleia2, did you talk about Ubuntu Women yet?
[15:40] <mhall119> belkinsa: yup, first thing :)
[15:40] <belkinsa> AH, I see.  I was late and that's why
[15:40] <LinusAnon> QESTION: Is UEFI and Xubuntu/Ubuntu/Kubuntu.... a problem?
[15:40] <belkinsa> We do need help. :D
[15:41] <belkinsa> #ubuntu-doc
[15:41] <yuwash> QUESTION: Is thunar also developed by that "tiny team" of xfce? How is the xybuntu team involved in thunar developement?
[15:41] <belkinsa> Mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[15:43] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag#List_of_tags
[15:44] <balloons> LinusAnon, this all applies, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI. And nothing should be flavor specific
[15:44] <balloons> not to say a flavor image could not be broken :-)
[15:45] <belkinsa> Hard Refreshing helps also with that erro after log in
[15:45] <belkinsa> error*
[15:47] <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2868/
[15:47] <belkinsa> pleia2, your LocO?
[15:48] <belkinsa> I mean talk about your LoCo*
[15:48] <belkinsa> Stupid lag.
[15:49] <LinusAnon> belkinsa, maybe the are able to use obs-studio (Open Broadcaster Studio) in the future. Something like Wirecast but in very early stages
[15:51] <LinusAnon> https://obsproject.com/
[15:53] <belkinsa> Was there a glitch?
[15:53] <nik90> yes, video skipped a few seconds
[15:53] <yuwash> QUESTON: whom do you recommend that book?
[15:53] <belkinsa> Ah, I thought it was my computer.
[15:54] <pleia2> yuwash: it's a newcomer book, gives history of ubuntu, team structure and installation + basics (using and tweaking Unity, basic command line chapter)
[15:54] <nik90> bye
[15:54] <LinusAnon> bye
[19:38] <waltersud> Hi
[19:40] <Nothing_Much> Oh yeah, today's Tuesday
[19:40] <Nothing_Much> Did the schedule change from morning to afternoon?


[02:22] <[Ubik]> last I saw, the crickets were pooping all over the place
[02:23] <superfly> In our house, it's ants.
[04:06] <cyberanger> [Ubik] anyone sell phone service to an exterminator yet, last I remember the office had bug problems too


[08:08] <Kilos> merry Christmas everyone. Hope you all have a wonderful family day
[08:09] <Kilos> thats for you as well superfly cocooncrash tumbleweed and our other brothers over the big waters
[19:58] <miles> sigh
[20:03] <pavlushka> Merry Christmas Everyone
[20:03] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA


[02:24] <smartboyhw> Good morning JackYu
[02:27] <ypwong> JackYu, hey
[02:27]  * ypwong will go to opensuse release party in afternoon
[02:34] <smartboyhw> ypwong: Boo
[03:02] <JackYu> ypwong, hi
[03:02] <JackYu> it's great. Would please take some photos and share to us?
[03:04] <ypwong> JackYu, ok
[03:04] <ypwong> JackYu, I have sent you at least two emails
[03:06] <JackYu> ypwong, got it. will reply soon.
[15:20] <ypwong> http://huati.weibo.com/k/UbuntuKylin?from=501&order=time # 最好有人参与下
[15:21] <ypwong> JackYu, 我看danica的email, 好像拿到笔记本的机会悬
[15:23] <ypwong> JackYu, 下周我们得发布 blueprints 了，碰面时候一起聊下
[15:35] <JackYu> 恩，我明天上午就先提交了
[15:36] <JackYu> 最近Leonard都offline，不知道谁来协调笔记本的事了