[06:42] <Kilos> hi superfly and all others
[06:43] <nlsthzn> Goeie more Suid Afrika :p
[06:43] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn
[06:59] <magespawn> good morning za
[06:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[07:01] <Kilos> magespawn, try member with noobs that want to install ubuntu to remind them to disconnect othe drives beforehand
[07:02] <magespawn> that is a good idea if they are not used to using a partition manager when installing
[07:03] <Kilos> and give this command to hectic if im outside maybe please
[07:03] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[07:03] <magespawn> that is fix the file system yes?
[07:03] <Kilos> he installed 12.04 but whole 2tb second drive is now empty
[07:04] <magespawn> ouch
[07:04] <Kilos> he said it has/had lots of data on
[07:04] <magespawn> did he try to recover it?
[07:04] <Kilos> we were looking for options last night
[07:05] <Kilos> disk utility sees it as empty
[07:05] <Kilos> wb nlsthzn
[07:05] <Kilos> last resort will be data recovery
[07:06] <nlsthzn> my keabord works again after setting it to the right type :p
[07:06] <Kilos> i think that fsck command will sort him though
[07:06] <Kilos> lol
[07:06] <Kilos> asrab keyboard
[07:06] <Kilos> arab as well
[07:06] <magespawn> let me go scroll quickly
[07:06] <magespawn> HecticZA Kilos?
[07:07] <Kilos> ya
[07:08] <nlsthzn> nah the wrong version of US
[07:08] <nlsthzn> :p
[07:08] <Kilos> haha
[07:43] <Kilos> so what you think magespawn ?
[07:47] <superfly> nlsthzn: your "keabord"?
[07:47] <Kilos> hehe
[08:01] <Kilos> wbb
[08:05] <magespawn> superfly you got a second?
[08:05] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[09:21] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[09:21] <Kilos> ready for monday nights meeing?
[09:24] <Vince-0> oh haai
[09:24] <Vince-0> yar
[09:24] <Kilos> good
[09:27] <HecticZA> Morning :)
[09:28] <Kilos> hi HecticZA
[09:28] <HecticZA> Hi Kilos:)
[09:28] <Kilos> got something you can try to find the 2tb data
[09:29] <HecticZA> oh? I must just add that I took it out and connected to the Windows system and the partition is gone. I do not have sufficient  space to recover the data.
[09:29] <Kilos> open a terminal and copy paste this there
[09:30] <Kilos> we can fix it im sure
[09:30] <HecticZA> but am willing to try anything
[09:30] <HecticZA> k
[09:30] <Kilos> is there data there you need to save
[09:30] <Kilos> put the drive back first
[09:31] <HecticZA> would like to yes, but i buggered it somehow, so would not cry too many tears
[09:31] <HecticZA> I have
[09:31] <Kilos> always remember to diconnect other drives power cord when installing
[09:31] <Kilos> we can save it im sure
[09:32] <HecticZA> k:)
[09:36] <Kilos> ubuntu has great recovery tools
[09:36] <HecticZA> ?
[09:36] <Kilos> is the drive back?
[09:36] <HecticZA> yes
[09:36] <Kilos> open terminal
[09:37] <HecticZA> ready
[09:37] <Kilos> copy paste
[09:37] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[09:38] <HecticZA> Im on a netbook here. let me change to the pc
[09:38] <Kilos> that should check the filesystem of the 2tb
[09:38] <Kilos> ok
[09:39] <Kilos> you can also type the command in
[09:40] <Kilos> hmm...
[09:41] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[09:41] <HecticZA> [sudo] password for ronald:
[09:41] <HecticZA> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[09:41] <HecticZA> e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[09:41] <HecticZA> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1
[09:41] <HecticZA> Possibly non-existent device?
[09:42] <Kilos> ok now
[09:42] <Kilos> this is the data recovery tools
[09:43] <Kilos> but first open that disk utility again
[09:43] <HecticZA> It is open
[09:43] <Kilos> does it see the drive?
[09:44] <HecticZA> It does
[09:44] <Kilos> tick check filesystem
[09:45] <Kilos> whats happening? ive never used this thing before
[09:46] <HecticZA> I do not see the option.  Remember there is no partition according to Linux.
[09:46] <Kilos> ok close it
[09:47] <HecticZA> I can add a partition, format and Smart data which can run tests
[09:47] <HecticZA> ok
[09:47] <Kilos> then in terminal
[09:47] <Kilos> sudo aptitude install testdisk scalpel foremost
[09:48] <Kilos> those are data recovery tools
[09:48] <HecticZA> How do I copy from this screen?
[09:48] <Kilos> oh ok
[09:48] <Kilos> ctrlc is copy
[09:48] <Kilos> ctrl+c
[09:48] <HecticZA> ah okay
[09:48] <Kilos> and ctrl+v is paste here
[09:49] <Kilos> but in the terminal it will right click paste
[09:49] <HecticZA> Yeah I know the commands, but did not realize they would work in Linux
[09:49] <HecticZA> Y
[09:49] <Kilos> ah
[09:49] <Kilos> magespawn, you here?
[09:50] <nlsthzn> wow, epic saturday for rugby...
[09:50] <Kilos> yeah nlsthzn
[09:50] <Kilos> but late this avy
[09:50] <HecticZA> Jip nlsthzn
[09:50] <HecticZA> Okay done Kilos
[09:51] <Kilos> ok now you gotta do evrything from cli
[09:51] <Kilos> cli=terminal
[09:51] <HecticZA> k
[09:52] <Kilos> you dont have space to let it save so youll have to untick the save block when the window opens
[09:52] <Kilos> sudo testdisk
[09:53] <HecticZA> k
[09:53] <Kilos> dont record anything is the block you need to use
[09:54] <Kilos> does it show the drive?
[09:54] <HecticZA> K. Must I enter on it now?
[09:54] <Kilos> yes
[09:55] <HecticZA> Must I paste the output? It detected both drives
[09:55] <Kilos> np lemme look what i see
[09:55] <Kilos> scroll to the 2tb
[09:55] <Kilos> and tick p[roceed
[09:56] <Kilos> proceed
[09:56] <HecticZA> K.
[09:56] <Kilos> it takes ages with a big drive like that
[09:56] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166
[09:56] <HecticZA> Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done.
[09:56] <HecticZA> >[Intel  ] Intel/PC partition
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...)
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [Humax  ] Humax partition table
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [Mac    ] Apple partition map
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [None   ] Non partitioned media
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [Sun    ] Sun Solaris partition
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [XBox   ] XBox partition
[09:56] <HecticZA>  [Return ] Return to disk selection
[09:57] <Kilos> intel i think
[09:57] <HecticZA> Intel?
[09:57] <HecticZA> k
[09:57] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63
[09:57] <HecticZA> >[ Analyse  ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ Options  ] Modify options
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ Delete   ] Delete all data in the partition table
[09:57] <HecticZA>  [ Quit     ] Return to disk selection
[09:57] <Kilos> mbr
[09:58] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sdb - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63
[09:58] <HecticZA> Write a new copy of MBR code to first sector? (Y/N)
[09:58] <Kilos> y
[09:58] <HecticZA> I assume yes?
[09:59] <HecticZA> It tells me I must reboot
[09:59] <Kilos> ok then maybe that command will see the drive
[09:59] <HecticZA> Ok
[09:59] <magespawn> Kilos yes, bit distrcted though
[10:00] <magespawn> distracted
[10:00] <Kilos> sorry magespawn i just wanted someone to check if i give bad advice
[10:00] <magespawn> looks good so far
[10:00] <Kilos> i dunno where i put my blog on data recovery
[10:01] <Kilos> need to hunt some
[10:03] <magespawn> fish one is here with me and is on Khan Academy learning how to draw via simple code
[10:03] <Kilos> wb HecticZA
[10:03] <HecticZA> Thx
[10:04] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[10:05] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[10:05] <HecticZA> [sudo] password for ronald:
[10:05] <HecticZA> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[10:05] <HecticZA> e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[10:05] <HecticZA> /dev/sdb1 is mounted.
[10:05] <HecticZA> WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL***
[10:05] <HecticZA> cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
[10:05] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[10:05] <HecticZA> Do you really want to continue<n>?
[10:06] <Kilos> ok wait HecticZA
[10:06] <HecticZA> sdb1 is my boot drive (80GB)
[10:06] <Kilos> sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[10:06] <Kilos> wait
[10:06] <HecticZA> k
[10:06] <Kilos> the 2tb is seem as what in the disk utility
[10:07] <HecticZA> /dev/sda
[10:07] <Kilos> sdc or sda
[10:07] <Kilos> ok
[10:07] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1
[10:08] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1
[10:08] <HecticZA> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[10:08] <HecticZA> e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[10:08] <HecticZA> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[10:08] <HecticZA> Possibly non-existent device?
[10:08] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$
[10:08] <Kilos> ok lets try another way
[10:08] <HecticZA> I do not have a sda1. I think because there is no partition?
[10:08] <Kilos> i just need to find something
[10:09] <HecticZA> k
[10:09] <Kilos> the program we want is boot-repair
[10:09] <Kilos> Maaz, google boot-repair for 12.04
[10:09] <Maaz> Kilos: "Boot-Repair - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair :: "How to Repair GRUB2 When Ubuntu Won't Boot - How-To Geek" http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/ :: "Install Boot Repair utility in Ubuntu 12.10 or 12.04 | ITworld" http://www.itworld.com/software/319339/install-boot-repair-
[10:09] <Maaz> utility-ubuntu-1210-or-1204 :: "[boot-repair] Windows 8 / Ubuntu 12.04 dual boot problem - U…
[10:10] <Kilos> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <Kilos> then
[10:11] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[10:11] <HecticZA> k
[10:12] <Kilos> in dash type in boot-repair
[10:13] <Kilos> and open it
[10:14] <HecticZA> It seems Boot repair has autorun and as I typed here options popped up and was activate while I was typing in Xchat
[10:14] <HecticZA> Boot successfully repaired.
[10:14] <HecticZA> Please write on a paper the following URL:
[10:14] <HecticZA> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5789256/
[10:14] <HecticZA> In case you still experience boot problem, indicate this URL to:
[10:14] <HecticZA><EMAIL_ADDRESS>or to your favorite support forum.
[10:14] <HecticZA> You can now reboot your computer.
[10:14] <Kilos> oh ya that was part of the command sorry
[10:14] <HecticZA> Will reboot. See now
[10:15] <Kilos> ok
[10:17] <Kilos> wb HecticZA
[10:17] <HecticZA> Thx
[10:18] <Kilos> we need to know what that drives name is
[10:18] <HecticZA> disk utility?
[10:18] <Kilos> do you see it in home now
[10:19] <HecticZA> Nope. No drives there
[10:19] <Kilos> eish
[10:19] <Kilos> ok use disk utility
[10:20] <HecticZA> where do I see the name?
[10:20] <HecticZA> Is it  dev/sda?
[10:20] <Kilos> when you tick on the 2tb it will open
[10:21] <Kilos> lemme open disk utility and see
[10:22] <Kilos> ya tick on the 2tb and it opens and on the right near the top it will show
[10:22] <Kilos> next to device
[10:23] <HecticZA> /dev/sda
[10:23] <Kilos> ok
[10:23] <Kilos> you got 2 sata ports you using?
[10:24] <HecticZA> Only using one of the 2
[10:24] <Kilos> normally /sda is in the ide port
[10:24] <Kilos> oh is the 2tb an ide?
[10:25] <Kilos> or is the 80g an ide
[10:25] <HecticZA> No, it is SATA and the 80GB is ide
[10:25] <Kilos> normally the ide shows as sda
[10:26] <Kilos> anyway try the fsck command again
[10:26] <HecticZA> It did when the 2TB was removed
[10:26] <Kilos> sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1
[10:28] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$ sudo fsck -f /dev/sda1
[10:28] <HecticZA> [sudo] password for ronald:
[10:28] <HecticZA> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[10:28] <HecticZA> e2fsck 1.42 (29-Nov-2011)
[10:28] <HecticZA> fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[10:28] <HecticZA> Possibly non-existent device?
[10:28] <HecticZA> ronald@ronald-media:~$
[10:28] <Kilos> grrr
[10:28] <HecticZA> Shouldn't I create a partition on the 2 TB?
[10:28] <Kilos> if you create one all data is gone
[10:29] <Kilos> testdisk should sort that
[10:29] <HecticZA> oh okay. Will keep that as last option then
[10:29] <Kilos> sudo testdisk
[10:30] <HecticZA> k
[10:30] <HecticZA> create, append, no log
[10:30] <Kilos> sec lemme see
[10:30] <Kilos> you have disk utility open?
[10:31] <HecticZA> yes
[10:31] <Kilos> check filesystem
[10:32] <HecticZA> I do not see that option
[10:33] <Kilos> might need to mount volume first
[10:34] <Kilos> do you see that at least\
[10:34] <HecticZA> No
[10:34] <Kilos> just tick you 80g there and see if the options appear
[10:34] <HecticZA> Yes they do
[10:35] <Kilos> ah
[10:35] <HecticZA> I think only if there is a partition will those be options
[10:35] <Kilos> go back to testdisk
[10:35] <Kilos> no log
[10:36] <HecticZA> k
[10:36] <Kilos> ya but we want to find the data first
[10:36] <Kilos> if you create parts there you will lose data
[10:37] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - ST2000DL003-9VT166
[10:37] <HecticZA> Please select the partition table type, press Enter when done.
[10:37] <HecticZA> >[Intel  ] Intel/PC partition
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [EFI GPT] EFI GPT partition map (Mac i386, some x86_64...)
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [Humax  ] Humax partition table
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [Mac    ] Apple partition map
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [None   ] Non partitioned media
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [Sun    ] Sun Solaris partition
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [XBox   ] XBox partition
[10:37] <HecticZA>  [Return ] Return to disk selection
[10:37] <Kilos> intel
[10:38] <HecticZA> >[ Analyse  ] Analyse current partition structure and search for lost partitions
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ Advanced ] Filesystem Utils
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ Geometry ] Change disk geometry
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ Options  ] Modify options
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ MBR Code ] Write TestDisk MBR code to first sector
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ Delete   ] Delete all data in the partition table
[10:38] <HecticZA>  [ Quit     ] Return to disk selection
[10:38] <Kilos> analyse
[10:39] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243201 255 63
[10:39] <HecticZA> Current partition structure:
[10:39] <HecticZA>      Partition                  Start        End    Size in sectors
[10:39] <HecticZA> No partition is bootable
[10:39] <HecticZA> *=Primary bootable  P=Primary  L=Logical  E=Extended  D=Deleted
[10:39] <Kilos> p
[10:40] <Kilos> somewhere in all those things there is a place to make it bootable
[10:40] <HecticZA> Not an option. Only to Quit quick search
[10:40] <Kilos> i dont remember which one
[10:41] <Kilos> ok quit and go options
[10:41] <HecticZA> Should TestDisk search for partition created under Vista or later ? [Y/N]
[10:41] <HecticZA> (answer Yes if unsure)
[10:42] <Kilos> y
[10:42] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63
[10:42] <HecticZA>      Partition               Start        End    Size in sectors
[10:42] <HecticZA> >* HPFS - NTFS              0   1  1 243200 254 63<PHONE_NUMBER>
[10:42] <HecticZA> Structure: Ok.  Use Up/Down Arrow keys to select partition.
[10:42] <HecticZA> Use Left/Right Arrow keys to CHANGE partition characteristics:
[10:42] <HecticZA> *=Primary bootable  P=Primary  L=Logical  E=Extended  D=Deleted
[10:42] <HecticZA> Keys A: add partition, L: load backup, T: change type, P: list files,
[10:42] <HecticZA>      Enter: to continue
[10:42] <HecticZA> NTFS, 2000 GB / 1863 GiB
[10:43] <Kilos> enter
[10:44] <HecticZA> Disk /dev/sda - 2000 GB / 1863 GiB - CHS 243202 255 63
[10:44] <HecticZA>      Partition                  Start        End    Size in sectors
[10:44] <HecticZA>  1 * HPFS - NTFS              0   1  1 243200 254 63<PHONE_NUMBER>
[10:44] <HecticZA>  [  Quit  ] >[Deeper Search]  [ Write  ]
[10:44] <HecticZA>                           Try to find more partitions
[10:44] <Kilos> deeper search
[10:44] <HecticZA> Ok this is going to take a while
[10:45] <Kilos> ok i should be here
[10:45] <Kilos> next you can tick write
[10:45] <Kilos> it should make it visible to fsck
[10:45] <HecticZA> ok. Can I ask something else in the meantime?
[10:46] <Kilos> yes
[10:46] <Kilos> dont ask if you can ask just ask
[10:46] <Kilos> ive been told that often
[10:46] <Kilos> hehe
[10:46] <magespawn> hah @ Kilos
[10:49] <magespawn> Kilos: you are now one of the channel experts
[10:49] <Kilos> whew magespawn this is hard without the drive here
[10:49] <Kilos> no man
[10:49] <HecticZA> I had dual boot system with XP and Peppermint 3. Bothe hardrives had folders shared for Windows and Linux. I eventually decided to just instal 10.04 and deleted the 80GB hdd partition and created a new partition and made ext4 partition. and 3MB swap drive and installed Ubuntu. Is that procedure correct? I kow nothing about the ext4 etc
[10:50] <Kilos> i think i need to start studying all the things
[10:50] <Kilos> 3m is too little for swap
[10:50] <HecticZA> Kilos if I install teamviewer you can take my pc?
[10:50] <Kilos> 2g is good
[10:51] <magespawn> HecticZA: sounds fine, ext4 is default file system now
[10:51] <HecticZA> Okay will check on that swap drive
[10:51] <Kilos> teamviewer dont work on ubuntu
[10:51] <HecticZA> Is that good or bad magespawn ?
[10:51] <HecticZA> It does?
[10:51] <magespawn> how much swap you need depends on your usage nad how much ram is installed
[10:51] <HecticZA> I use it regurly?
[10:51] <HecticZA> 1GB
[10:51] <HecticZA> old pc
[10:52] <magespawn> ext4 is a journaling file system so that means it is more resistant to failure tha NTFS or fat
[10:52] <Kilos> we use other remote destop tools
[10:52] <HecticZA> I think my swap drive might be 3GB
[10:53] <HecticZA> Oh ok Kilos
[10:53] <Kilos> thats fine but shouldnt be more than twice your ram
[10:53] <HecticZA> I read somewhere you can change the swap size? I will look at that a bit later
[10:54] <Kilos> the swap keeps stuff that isnt being used at the moment
[10:54] <Kilos> to save ram
[10:54] <Kilos> it wont do harm if its 3g
[10:54] <HecticZA> Ok thx
[10:54] <Kilos> just wont all be used
[10:55] <Kilos> if that deeper search finds the rest things  are looking up
[10:56] <HecticZA> I would be sooooo greatful. Only 2% done
[10:56] <Kilos> after the write it should then be a bootable drive again
[10:56] <magespawn> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4 there are options when it comes to this, but i like ext and have not had problems with it
[10:56] <Kilos> ext4 is the best
[10:56] <HecticZA> It never was bootable though?
[10:56] <Kilos> win pcs cant see it
[10:57] <HecticZA> Ooh. That is not so cool
[10:57] <Kilos> oh is the 2tb just storage
[10:57] <HecticZA> I always have a shared folder on it
[10:57] <HecticZA> Yes Kilos, just data storage
[10:57] <Kilos> ah
[10:58] <HecticZA> I don't know how I buggred it up. I was soo careful to stay away from the 2TB, but I had to install Ubuntu about 5 times, so it wrong somewhere.
[10:58] <HecticZA> *wen
[10:58] <HecticZA> *went
[10:59] <Kilos> you shoulda just installed ubuntu on the 2tb sata is faster
[10:59] <HecticZA> Did wnt to risk the data on the 2TB, Lol
[10:59] <HecticZA> not want*
[11:00] <Kilos> anyway we see if the write function makes it useable
[11:00] <Kilos> hehe
[11:00] <Kilos> well with luck on our side we will still find the data
[11:01] <Kilos> HecticZA, what was the other question?
[11:02] <HecticZA> I strugled with the Ubunt install. Only later discovered that Telkom had dropped or the connection was very slow. Language packages showed 37964:56 to complete. I thought there was something wrong with didk or it was normal for Ubuntu. Waited almost 2 hours for it to try and install.
[11:02] <HecticZA> Okay hold on. Need to get a link
[11:04] <Kilos> ubuntu installs in 25 mins
[11:04] <Kilos> i always install without it updating at the same time
[11:05] <Kilos> once installed then i update/upgrade
[11:05] <HecticZA> I had updates and 3rd party ticked. Only later discovered Telkom was buggered. Restarted router and finally it installed
[11:07] <Kilos> you can install with no internet
[11:07] <Kilos> much faster way i think
[11:07] <HecticZA> Oh  did not know
[11:08] <magespawn> and that way you can get a working os up and running
[11:08] <Kilos> as i say 25 mins
[11:08] <Kilos> yip
[11:09] <HecticZA> http://peppermintos.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5666&start=0 I have issues with my screen resolution, because I'm connecting via a KVM switch. I have the same issue with Ubuntu now. The link has my solution for Peppermint. Will it work on ubuntu as well?
[11:11] <Kilos> ive had some probs with screen resolution but when installing the nvidia drivers it sorts itself out
[11:12] <Kilos> in dash type in additional
[11:12] <Kilos> it will look for the card drivers
[11:12] <HecticZA> k
[11:14] <HecticZA> It is using the latest proprietary driver
[11:14] <Kilos> good
[11:15] <Kilos> nvidia-173?
[11:15] <HecticZA> I'm not using the MVK switch now and it works perfectly, but when I use the switch it goes to 640 x 480
[11:15] <HecticZA> Yes 173.
[11:15] <HecticZA> But that is a fight for another day
[11:16] <Kilos> ah
[11:16] <HecticZA> Why are some messages red at times?
[11:16] <Kilos> im using the nvidia-173-extras i think
[11:16] <Kilos> i dunno
[11:17] <HecticZA> k
[11:17] <Kilos> messages on here are red
[11:17] <Kilos> ?
[11:17] <HecticZA> nope
[11:17] <Kilos> thats if your nick is mentioned
[11:17] <Kilos> oh
[11:17] <HecticZA> ah okay
[11:18] <Kilos> HecticZA, like this
[11:18] <HecticZA> Hi Kilos
[11:18] <HecticZA> lol okay and mine?
[11:18] <Kilos> same
[11:18] <Kilos> red here
[11:18] <HecticZA> Dar leer ek alweer iets :D
[11:18] <Kilos> it helps one find personal messages
[11:20] <HecticZA> I need to do something quickly. This test is going to run  for a while. Is it okay if I check back at 15:00 Would that suit you?
[11:20] <Kilos> np
[11:20] <HecticZA> Ty :)
[11:21] <Kilos> yw
[11:21] <magespawn> HecticZA: i think peppermint is based on ubuntu so it might
[11:21] <Kilos> debian i think ya
[11:21] <Kilos> Squirm,  will know
[11:22] <Kilos> oh is peppermint and mint different
[11:22] <Kilos> ?
[11:23] <HecticZA> It is. but someone said Peppermint is based on Lbuntu I think
[11:23] <HecticZA> Anyways, how do I indicate that I'm away?
[11:24] <Kilos> at the top go settings
[11:24] <Kilos> preferences
[11:24] <HecticZA> k
[11:25] <Kilos> general
[11:25] <HecticZA> k
[11:25] <magespawn> or do the "/away" command
[11:26]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:26] <Kilos> hehe
[11:26] <HecticZA> and when I'm back?
[11:26] <HecticZA> same?
[11:26] <Kilos> whats the undo for that magespawn
[11:26]  * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:41)
[11:26]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:27]  * HecticZA is back (gone 00:00:06)
[11:27] <magespawn> "/back'
[11:27] <Kilos> ah ty
[11:27] <HecticZA> lol. Thx
[11:27] <HecticZA> well this time im gone for real. See later
[11:27] <Kilos> later
[11:27]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[11:42] <magespawn> that was nogal hectic lol
[11:42] <Kilos> hehe
[11:43] <Kilos> so hard without the drive here
[11:43] <magespawn> one of the ways i have found to do this is to write out a step by step procedure
[11:44] <Kilos> yeah but finding where you saved it sucks
[11:45] <magespawn> print it out maybe, and put it a file or bind them together
[11:46] <Kilos> eek too many papers already
[11:46] <Kilos> burned half or more even
[11:46] <Kilos> books full of info
[11:47] <magespawn> maybe some sort of electronic file system that allows you to search file via keywords
[11:47] <Kilos> eish thats even more thinking
[11:48] <magespawn> ah well that we cn't get away from
[11:48] <magespawn> can't
[11:48] <Kilos> hehe
[11:48] <Kilos> better to just leave clever peeps to help noobs
[11:48] <magespawn> i think you did fine there
[11:49] <Kilos> its not fixed yet but lets hope hey
[11:49] <Kilos> ty
[11:50] <Kilos> would maybe have been easier using a ubcd disk
[11:51] <magespawn> maybe
[12:26] <magespawn> home time for me, later all
[12:27] <Kilos> later magespawn
[13:00] <HecticZA> Im back
[13:00] <HecticZA> hddd 245 done :(
[13:00] <HecticZA> good grief.
[13:00] <HecticZA> Hdd at 24%
[13:01] <Kilos> wb HecticZA
[13:01] <Kilos> ya recoveries take long on slow pcs
[13:01] <HecticZA> Thx Kilos :)
[13:02] <Kilos> but its a big drive
[13:02] <HecticZA> Yes I understand.
[13:02] <Kilos> also adding ram will help your pc
[13:02] <Kilos> ubuntu loves ram
[13:02] <HecticZA> It is DDr400 :(
[13:03] <Kilos> they only come in 1g max i think
[13:03] <Kilos> and hard to find
[13:03] <HecticZA> Can I ask about ppa? Yes you are correct
[13:03] <Kilos> my pc also uses ddr but i dunno which
[13:04] <Kilos> what about ppa?
[13:05] <HecticZA> AS I understand it, it is 3rd party drivers or apps and you need to add it, but how do you know the names you need to add?
[13:05] <Kilos> most of what you need you will find in synaptic
[13:06] <Kilos> then there is a command for adding ppa's but i dunno that
[13:06] <Kilos> like the one we used for boot-repair
[13:07] <HecticZA> I'v eseen the command and I have notes on it, but it is a mystery for me where the ppl find the name.
[13:07] <Kilos> yeah me too
[13:07] <Kilos> what
[13:07] <Kilos> um
[13:07] <Kilos> i forgot now
[13:09] <Kilos> but normally one can google what you want and you find commands there  but normally ask here first
[13:09] <Kilos> but always check synaptic first
[13:10] <HecticZA> Yeah, looks that might be the best for me.
[13:11] <HecticZA> I had to type this to get the PS3 media server:
[13:11] <Kilos> most stuff that needs doing someone here has done before so they know the ropes
[13:11] <HecticZA> Sudo add-aptrepository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver
[13:11] <HecticZA> sudo apt-get update
[13:11] <Kilos> ah
[13:12] <HecticZA> sudo apt-get install ps3mediaserver
[13:12] <HecticZA> and I basically understand everything but the happy-neko thing
[13:14] <HecticZA> Is there a place I can look for installed programs and apps?
[13:14] <HecticZA> I know now about the dash search, but if I'm not sure what a program is called?
[13:15] <Kilos> whew im the wrong one to ask such serious things
[13:15] <Kilos> type in
[13:15] <Kilos> lspci
[13:15] <Kilos> that shows somethging
[13:15] <HecticZA> lol okay
[13:16] <HecticZA> ah, that shows hardware
[13:16] <Kilos> ok
[13:17] <Kilos> Maaz, google how to see installed apps on ubuntu
[13:17] <Maaz> Kilos: "How to list user installed applications (not packages)? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/159664/how-to-list-user-installed-applications-not-packages :: "Is there any simple way to access installed programs? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/148100/is-there-any-simple-way-to-access-installed-programs :: "See all of your installed
[13:17] <Maaz> applications in Ubuntu Unity" http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/see_all_your_instal…
[13:17] <Kilos> everyone tells me google is my friend but i dunno so much
[13:19] <Kilos> 12.04 goes well with 1.5g ram and better with 2gig
[13:20] <HecticZA> ok. Thx for the links Maaz. I will save them.
[13:21] <Kilos> he is our python bot written and hosted by the guys
[13:22] <HecticZA> ? So he is not a member?
[13:22] <Kilos> no its a bot
[13:22] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[13:22]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[13:23] <HecticZA> Wow. Is there a specific  way to ask questions?
[13:23] <Kilos> if you ask coffee please he will make you some cyber coffee too
[13:23] <HecticZA> LoL
[13:23] <Kilos> use his nick first then the rest
[13:24] <HecticZA> Maaz How old is Nelson Mandela
[13:24] <Maaz> HecticZA: I already know stuff about How old
[13:24] <Kilos> he records our meetings and does lotsa stuff
[13:26] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[13:26] <Kilos> the bot package is in the repos so anyone can install one
[13:27] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[13:27] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[13:27] <Kilos> called ibid
[13:27] <HecticZA> Ah okay
[13:28] <Kilos> most of the clever guys are here at night
[13:30] <HecticZA> Unless there is really something important, most evening is spend with the wife or PS3 gaming.
[13:31] <Kilos> cool
[13:32] <Kilos> and wikus is quite clued up but he is only here weekdays till 3pm
[13:32] <HecticZA> So I cannot share any folders with Window pc's on my Ubuntu installation, because I use a ext4 partition?
[13:32] <HecticZA> Wikus, like in Maz?
[13:33] <Kilos> data files can still be seen on win
[13:33] <Kilos> ya mazal
[13:33] <HecticZA> Ah okay
[13:34] <Kilos> only win sees your ext4 drives as unformatted
[13:34] <Kilos> or doesnt even see them
[13:34] <HecticZA> I installed Dropbox now and now it tells me that "Nautilus" restart required" What is that?
[13:35] <Kilos> file thing
[13:35] <HecticZA> Can I restart it or will intefere with the hdd scan?
[13:35] <Kilos> filebrowser or somesuch
[13:36] <Kilos> just that window ya but dont restart pc
[13:36] <HecticZA> I'm rather going to wait.
[13:37] <Kilos> ya you dont wanna sart over again
[13:37] <Kilos> hehe
[13:37] <HecticZA> LOl, for sure
[13:37] <HecticZA> maaz what is Nautilus
[13:37] <Maaz> HecticZA: Not a clue, sorry
[13:37] <HecticZA> maaz google nautilus
[13:37] <Maaz> HecticZA: "Nautilus® Home Fitness Equipment" http://www.nautilus.com/ :: "Nautilus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus :: "Nautilus - League of Legends Wiki - Wikia" http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Nautilus :: "Nautilus" http://nautil.us/ :: "Nautilus - GNOME Live! - GNOME Project Listing"
[13:37] <Maaz> http://projects.gnome.org/nautilus/ :: "Historic Ship Nautilus and The Submarine Force Museum" http://www.ussnautilus.or…
[13:38] <Kilos> Maaz, google what does nautilus do in ubuntu
[13:38] <Maaz> Kilos: "“nautilus” package : Ubuntu - Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus :: "How do I start Nautilus as root? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/156998/how-do-i-start-nautilus-as-root :: "What is the difference between "gksudo nautilus" and ... - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/11760/what-is-the-difference-between-
[13:38] <Maaz> gksudo-nautilus-and-sudo-nautilus :: "Ubuntu 12.10 May Ship With Older, But More Featured, Na…
[13:38] <HecticZA> Maaz does not like me :(
[13:38] <Kilos> look at it in synaptic
[13:39] <HecticZA> k
[13:39] <Kilos> there is normally an explannation there
[13:39] <Kilos> or type in man nautilus in cli
[13:39] <Kilos> youll get used to maaz
[13:40] <HecticZA> Nautilus is the official file manager for the GNOME desktop. It allows
[13:40] <HecticZA> to browse directories, preview files and launch applications associated
[13:40] <HecticZA> with them. It is also responsible for handling the icons on the GNOME
[13:40] <HecticZA> desktop.
[13:41] <Kilos> ya file manager
[13:41] <Kilos> i knew it was file something or other
[13:42] <HecticZA> 32%
[13:42] <Kilos> lol
[13:42] <HecticZA> Long way to go
[13:43] <Kilos> late night or early morning results
[13:43] <HecticZA> Looks like it.
[13:43] <Kilos> its always better to do recoveries from a larger drive
[13:44] <Kilos> then its all saved on youi drive
[13:44] <Kilos> your
[13:45] <HecticZA> Yeah.
[13:45] <Kilos> when its done the tell it to write hey
[13:45] <Kilos> i sleep early cause im getting older
[13:45] <HecticZA> I still can't believe I made the error. I double checked everytime I did drive selection :(
[13:46] <Kilos> better to unplug always
[13:46] <HecticZA> W enormally watch something till about 00:00 - 01:00, then we are off to bed as well.
[13:46] <Kilos> power cuts while installing also cause havok at times
[13:47] <HecticZA> Yeah It was just pure laziness
[13:47] <HecticZA> I'm worried about the power. The power to our town is very iffy and this pc is not on a UPS.
[13:48] <HecticZA> I'm referring to the recovery
[13:49] <HecticZA> pwd
[13:49] <HecticZA> oops
[13:49] <Kilos> eish
[13:50] <Kilos> za power sucks all over
[13:50] <HecticZA> True story
[13:51] <HecticZA> Is this channel part of a SA forum or where does it fit in?
[13:52] <Kilos> ya its the official channel this
[13:52] <Kilos> you can also join our mailing list
[13:53] <HecticZA> Which forum?
[13:53] <Kilos> http://bit.ly/MCOujZ
[13:53] <Kilos> i dunno
[13:55] <HecticZA> What is the mailing list about? Ubuntu news?
[13:57] <Kilos> thats nomallty where one starts asking for help
[13:57] <Kilos> many guys help there that dont use irc
[13:57] <HecticZA> oh okay.
[14:02] <superfly> this is the official IRC channel of the South African Ubuntu LoCo (Local Community)
[14:02] <superfly> the Ubuntu-ZA LoCo is an official Ubuntu community (as recognised by Canonical)
[14:03] <HecticZA> Thx. Is there a forum as well?
[14:03] <superfly> a mailing list is basically a list of e-mail addresses, and when you send an e-mail to the list, it sends your mail on to everyone
[14:03] <superfly> sortof.
[14:03] <superfly> It's not very active (maybe 1 post every 4 months)
[14:04] <HecticZA> Ah okay
[14:04] <superfly> and, as with all forums, you have a lot of people who know very little about everything
[14:04] <superfly> the mailing list is much better
[14:04] <HecticZA> LoL
[14:04] <HecticZA> I have subscribed now
[14:05] <HecticZA> It sounds like me. I know just about nothing about Linux
[14:06] <HecticZA> I am on by 22nd day anniversary. :D
[14:11]  * HecticZA is away: I'm busy
[14:12] <Kilos> hehe ty superfly
[15:21] <jmagunduni> Kilos: Whats up?
[15:29] <georgelappies> hi Kilos
[15:30] <Kilos> hi guys
[15:30] <Kilos> jmayou fixed up now
[15:30] <Kilos> oh my
[15:30] <Kilos> all good just cold hey georgelappies
[15:31] <georgelappies> yeah, definetly winter is upon us
[16:08] <Kilos> hi jmagunduni
[16:08] <Kilos> you still battling
[16:09] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[16:09] <jmagunduni> Kilos: its working , :)
[16:10] <Kilos> what did you do?
[16:11] <jmagunduni> Kilos: i opened the the terminal and typed nm-applet , it worked .
[16:11] <Kilos> good
[16:26] <theblazehen> Hi all, Kilos
[16:26] <Kilos> hi theblazehen you been scarce hey
[16:27] <theblazehen> Yeah, sorry. School's been a bit busy
[16:27] <theblazehen> And I got a new PC :D
[16:27] <Kilos> ah np
[16:28] <Kilos> cool
[16:28] <Kilos> what you got?
[16:28] <theblazehen> 2.4 GHz pentium, 3GB ram, and 40 GB HDD
[16:28] <theblazehen> Grandpa's old pc
[16:28] <Kilos> cool
[16:29] <theblazehen> Yea :) really enjoying it. A great improvement over my netbook
[16:33] <Kilos> i thought netbooks were fast
[16:35] <theblazehen> nope... 1.6 GHz processor, with hyperthreading, 2GB RAM and a unsupported graphics chipset
[16:35] <Kilos> ah
[16:35] <theblazehen> Yep. At most I could watch a video witha low resolution
[16:35] <Kilos> aw
[16:39] <theblazehen> I changed my text scaling and now it's all weird - http://imgur.com/0oSnFmt - Guess a reboot should fix it...
[16:39] <Kilos> hehe
[16:40] <Kilos> you still on arch?
[16:41] <theblazehen> Nope. Moved my netbook to debian, and desktop is mint
[16:41] <Kilos> ai still no ubuntu
[16:41] <Kilos> naughty
[16:41] <theblazehen> arch is too much hassle for me now... Just want something that works
[16:42] <theblazehen> I might try it out sometime, but I like the cinnamon DE
[16:50] <theblazehen> I just ran sudo rm -f /dev/null , let'
[16:51] <theblazehen> s see what happens
[16:51] <Kilos> hi smile4ever
[16:53] <smile4ever> hi :D
[16:53] <smile4ever> My program now supports in-program searches :D
[16:53] <theblazehen> smile4ever: Which program?
[16:54] <smile4ever> WikiList :)
[16:54] <theblazehen> What's it do?
[16:54] <smile4ever> generating lists for Wikipedia :)
[16:54] <theblazehen> Oh, nice
[16:54] <smile4ever> (especially autowikibrowser) :)
[16:55] <smile4ever> but it's wiki markup, so you can post those lists in articles too
[16:55] <smile4ever> :)
[16:55] <theblazehen> Ok
[16:55] <smile4ever> I don't support wide talk pages yet (talk_portal) :) But you don't know the Wikipedia structure, do you? :)
[16:55] <theblazehen> Nope!
[16:56] <smile4ever> It consists of namespaces, i.e. Talk:Google Chrome and Google Chrome (main namespace)
[16:56] <theblazehen> ok...
[16:56] <smile4ever> Since I wasn't satisfied with Gambas XML functionality I wrote my own XML parser :D
[16:57] <theblazehen> nice
[17:02] <theblazehen> Ok, chrome no longer works, and I cant open gnome-terminal.
[17:03] <smile4ever> theblazehen: Hmm, that sucks
[17:03] <smile4ever> try firefox? :)
[17:03] <theblazehen> Nope...
[17:04] <theblazehen> At least the tty's work
[17:04] <theblazehen> now to google how to restore /dev/null
[17:06] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[17:06] <smile4ever> Kilos: good night
[17:06] <theblazehen> night
[17:06] <smile4ever> :)
[17:07] <theblazehen> Fixed it - I think
[18:33] <smile4ever> Goodbye :)


 @popeydc okay i finished it - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PVui1kB1JijGCoBPdkrg4P94LS4DozLtEJ37GKWga2E/edit#heading=h.xhxn67u9h5q
 i made the assumption that you would be posting it with paragraph 3
 the following message will be the pinned message, so please ignore :D
 Welcome tester to the Ubuntu Testers  telegram group | The group is bridged with our #ubuntu-quality IRC channel on freenode | Find more QA information at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam
 welcome @Reinaldo_Espinosa
 Thanks. I've been following the xubuntu devel mailing list for a while. I hope I could help. (re @philipz: welcome @Reinaldo_Espinosa)
 glad to have you aboard. anyway you can help spread the word for tomorrow's announcement would be great
 What's supposed to be going on tomorrow??? (re @philipz: glad to have you aboard. anyway you can help spread the word for tomorrow's announcement would be great)
 we announce the plan for an ubuntu testing week for the beta release
 Ahh that's right!!! Sorry I just read about it. I'm a half slipped (re @philipz: we announce the plan for an ubuntu testing week for the beta release)
 Hey everyone! I did a thing I think everyone in here can use: https://github.com/eeickmeyer/UbuntuDailySync
 nice. did you think of it just now?
 @philipz It's something I've had for a while, just got around to publishing it.
 I had a previous iteration that I lost due to a bad hard drive, so this was 1) a way to give it to everyone else, and 2) a way for me to have a backup.
 I'm not much of a coder, but I can do bash scripts and package .deb and .rpm.
 definitely should come in handy for those testing all the distros. i know @popeydc may use it
 I used my previous version of it for years before I lost it. I think this rewrite is better, though, as it has command-line options.
 welcome @spzstumpy
 welcome @blohshyboi
 Hello
 are you a new tester and need any help?
 did any of the other distros release their announcement other than ubuntu studio?
 @popeydc was the text i wrote suitable for posting on discourse?
 @philipz Probably should use the term "flavors" or "flavours" like the non-US English-speaking world spells it as "disto" typically implies we're all separate distributions of Linux, which we are not. We're all Ubuntu. Perhaps I'm pedantic, but it gives a clearer sense of unity that way.
 yep that was a slip up :D
 @philipz Yes I am new to the testing side of things and would appreciate it if you could fill me in on anything that I should know of
 @blohshyboi you can read through the announcement we just put out today - https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-20-04-testing-week/
 which distribution do you use?
 if anyone is on reddit and announces their flavor, please also submit it to Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/
 I use Xubuntu
 welcome aboard from the xubuntu team. i presume you read the announcement.
 I have
 I will download the daily ISO later today as I don't have a lot of time to play around with it right now but as soon as I can I will check it out


[17:20] <baldpope> trying to install a specific version of a package, specifically libssh-4/0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> - but when I run apt it returns as package not found
[17:21] <baldpope> yet that version is shown when running apt list --upgradable
[17:21] <baldpope> is it a syntax issue or am I not referencing the package correctly?
[17:23] <baldpope> but if I run apt instal libssh-4 - it completes (upgrading to the correct version)
[17:24] <baldpope> issue is arising because I'm trying to pass the upgrade in via an ansible playbook
[17:26] <tomreyn> cen you show the command you're running and the output that's being produced, on a pastebin?
[17:27] <tomreyn> and do you apt(-get) update beforehand?
[17:28] <rfm> baldpope, this is on jammy? I did "sudo apt install --simulate libssh-4=0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>" on a updated but not recently upgraded system and got normal looking noises...
[17:29] <tomreyn> to install libssh-4 version 0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> you'd use    sudo apt install libssh-4=version 0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>     (equals, not slash, if this was unclear).
[17:29] <tomreyn> to install libssh-4 version 0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> you'd use    sudo apt install libssh-4=0.9.6-2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>     (equals, not slash, if this was unclear).
[17:29] <tomreyn> sorry, typo fixed
[18:35] <baldpope> just got back, trying that last example now tomreyn
[18:37] <baldpope> that works, thanks tomreyn - the equal sign is what I was missing, similar to gentoo for specific builds, should have tried that, ty again
[19:21] <tomreyn> you're welcome


[09:25] <rmg51> Morning
[09:29] <JonathanD> morning
[10:09] <lazyPower> Morning rmg51, JonathanD
[10:10] <lazyPower> finally caught up with you guys being early risers.
[10:11] <lazyPower> I'll be in your neck of the woods until Friday. I'm attending USENIX CMS
[10:14] <rmg51> o/
[12:12] <waltman> lazyPower: wow, that's a lot of usenix conferences in one place
[12:12] <lazyPower> waltman: yeah. its i think 7? in a few days?
[12:12] <lazyPower> i'm only attending the Config Management summit as a speaker on behalf of the Juju Team
[12:13] <waltman> have fun!
[12:13] <lazyPower> the conference is insanely expensive if you try to atted all of them. Close to 4K in fees between hotel + conference registration costs.
[12:13] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys?, hamsters and everything else
[12:14] <JonathanD> lazyPower: you should try fosscon, it's quite affordable ;)
[12:14] <lazyPower> JonathanD: I'd love to, but another memberof my team got that one.
[12:14] <teddy-dbear> yeah, even I can afford it!
[12:14] <JonathanD> lazyPower: $0 for the minimum, around $35 for everything ;)
[12:14] <lazyPower> I'm goign to Usenix and MongoDB world next week - then I'm out of the conference circuit rotation.
[12:15] <JonathanD> lazyPower: ah.
[12:15] <JonathanD> Hmmm, that reminds me.
[12:16] <lazyPower> Do we have a fosscon local to PA?
[12:16] <lazyPower> I'd be willing to trade in some swap days to attend
[12:22] <JonathanD> lazyPower: fosscon is always in philadelphia.
[12:22] <JonathanD> (It is therefore always sunny, as well).
[12:23] <lazyPower> hah, ok. I'll have to remember ot take a look and see if i can make it out there
[12:23] <lazyPower> I'd love to meet the LOCO team
[12:23] <JonathanD> lazyPower: Aug 9th at the Franklin Institute :)
[12:27] <lazyPower> neat
[12:27] <lazyPower> I'm getting my Ubuntu Membership review right now \o/
[12:27] <lazyPower> in #ubuntu-meeting
[12:27] <JonathanD> awesome :)
[12:28] <teddy-dbear> http://fosscon.org/
[12:28] <JonathanD> teddy-dbear: http://fosscon.us (preferred over .org)
[12:29] <JonathanD> .org still works, though.
[12:29] <teddy-dbear> copy and paste
[12:29] <teddy-dbear> from bookmark
[12:29] <JonathanD> :)
[12:31] <teddy-dbear> bookmark updated
[12:36] <jedijf> lazyPower: congrats - now get it going !!!
[12:37] <lazyPower> jedijf: challenge accepted
[12:37] <JonathanD> :)
[12:38] <jedijf> is a transplanted yinzer, still a yinzer? we need a clarification
[12:38] <jedijf> ssweeny: ? you make the call
[12:39] <lazyPower> jedijf: i'm an imposter yinzer
[12:39] <lazyPower> I'm originally from the belly button of the US - aka: Missouri
[12:39] <jedijf> have you eaten primanti's?
[12:39] <lazyPower> I have, and i have a deep seated love for Pierogis and Hallushki
[12:39] <jedijf> well on your way......
[12:40] <jedijf> pleia2: pa blogroll addition when you get back to the states? lazyPower - is that you?
[12:41] <lazyPower> i'm not sure I understand...
[12:41] <jedijf> lol - my bad, we'll add you to the LOCO blogroll -
[12:41] <jedijf> thankfully, pleia2 understands my disconnects
[12:41] <jedijf> we speak add
[12:42] <jedijf> 'planet' is the proper vernacular
[12:44] <lazyPower> ah i see
[12:44] <jedijf> lazyPower: take the plunge, submit a talk for FOSSCON - force attendance
[12:44] <jedijf> then we can meet :)
[12:44] <JonathanD> lazyPower: I agree with jedijf.
[12:45] <jedijf> lazyPower: i'll cheesesteak ya
[12:45] <JonathanD> jedijf: if I submit a talk, will you cheesesteak me?
[12:45] <jedijf> certainly....will you redbull me?
[12:45] <JonathanD> This can be arranged.
[12:45] <JonathanD> I tried to have them redbull us ALL last year, remember? :p
[12:46] <jedijf> yeah, now i have a possible connection and we can't...maybe i can get some sort of sponsorship
[12:46] <JonathanD> jedijf: for a while the grocery near me had an energy drink called "int2" which I thought they could have pitched at programmers just on the name...
[12:46] <jedijf> one of my clients did the redbull breakdancing chumpy in philly
[12:47] <JonathanD> jedijf: well, they only sponsor events with redbull in the name apparently, but sometimes they'll drop off cases of redbull, at least thats what I was told.
[12:47] <jedijf> yeah, he had an abundance, maybe i'll just take his :)
[12:47] <JonathanD> jedijf: you should stay up late and come to plug central next month :P
[12:47] <JonathanD> learn about freepbx/asterisk.
[12:48] <jedijf> he also just bought a club, so maybe for your after drinkup...if we have one
[12:48] <lazyPower> jedijf: we submit talks to fosscon and got nacked
[12:48] <lazyPower> a total of 4 if i remember.
[12:48] <JonathanD> lazyPower: this year?
[12:49] <lazyPower> JonathanD: yep.
[12:49] <JonathanD> What on? I'm looking at the list right now.
[12:49] <lazyPower> I'll follow up with castro, i may be confusing fosscon with fossetcon in florida.
[12:49] <JonathanD> lazyPower: no ones been told no yet.
[12:49] <JonathanD> lazyPower: hector?
[12:49] <jedijf> hangin' chad...florida again
[12:50] <lazyPower> JonathanD: Jorge Castro - the cloud community guy :)
[12:50] <JonathanD> lazyPower: ah
[12:50] <lazyPower> swell dude to have in your corner. If you ever get the chance to meet/hang out with him - take it. He'll talk your ear off about steam and hockey
[12:50] <JonathanD> lazyPower: I don't think we have anything, and I know we've not no'd a talk yet.
[12:50] <jedijf> JonathanD: did bavi submit?
[12:51] <JonathanD> jedijf: yes.
[12:51] <JonathanD> I've got 10 things (including ham testing) in the bin.
[12:51] <lazyPower> JonathanD: whats cut off date for submission?
[12:51] <lazyPower> i guess i could go look
[12:52] <JonathanD> lazyPower: we didn't specify one, we actually usually don't, just warn when our queue is getting full enough to make selections.
[12:52] <JonathanD> lazyPower: so, soon ;)
[12:52] <lazyPower> oi
[12:52] <lazyPower> why do i find out about these things when i'm packing to go to philly?
[12:52] <JonathanD> In the past we've sometimes magicked extra space into existance for talks interesting enough that missed the cull.
[12:53] <JonathanD> lazyPower: proabbly cause I suck at advertising.
[12:54] <lazyPower> JonathanD: i doubt thats it :) I think i have amazingly bad timing
[15:47] <pleia2> lazyPower: congrats on membership
[15:47] <lazyPower> Thanks pleia2 :)
[16:03] <pleia2> jedijf: send me info whenever, my sleep schedule is all out of sorts
[16:17] <jedijf> lol - where in the world are you carmen_pleia2?
[16:17] <pleia2> Croatia!
[16:17] <jedijf> how's the cold?
[16:18] <jedijf> and do they have the fed, or do you bring?
[16:18] <pleia2> doing it's best to make me a walking plague carrier, but I'm staying in my room
[16:18]  * pleia2 might go out to dinner though
[16:19] <jedijf> pleia2: just remind me when/if you get back to sf and then 2 days after - no rush
[16:19] <jedijf> re:planet PA lazy
[16:19] <pleia2> I get home tomorrow evening


[02:14] <Bluefoxicy> Launchpad #1093934
[02:14] <Bluefoxicy> should this be marked as Important for 13.04?
[02:15] <Bluefoxicy> It's in Universe but it strongly supports a main package--puppet's default configuration is a proof-of-concept Web server written in Ruby, which doesn't scale well.
[02:15] <Bluefoxicy> For more than a dozen or so nodes, puppetmaster-passenger is required
[02:39] <IdleOne> Bluefoxicy: your part message includes a dcc exploit. Please do not use that in ubuntu channels. i feel I should inform you that i will be letting freenode staff know also
[02:41] <Bluefoxicy> IdleOne:  oh, I'll remove that
[02:42] <Bluefoxicy> as soon as I figure out where the config option is in xchat-gnome
[02:42] <Bluefoxicy> found it.
[02:42] <Bluefoxicy> better?
[02:42] <IdleOne> Bluefoxicy: thank you. Staff has been advised
[02:42] <Bluefoxicy> or is it still doing it?
[02:42] <IdleOne> it is gone now
[02:43] <Bluefoxicy> k
[03:03] <Bluefoxicy> sigh.
[03:03] <Bluefoxicy> I wish I had half an idea just how to debug this stupid thing so I could fix it and submit a patch.
[08:28] <gnomefreak> anyone else having to type in a password after unity loads beform you can do anything? how do i fix it so i dont need to type it in?
[08:28] <gnomefreak> its annoying as hell
[16:06] <sepisoad> when I login into my ubuntu desktop there is no unity
[16:06] <sepisoad> when I run compiz --replace I get this error
[16:06] <sepisoad> Error: Failed to load plugin: unityshell
[16:07] <sepisoad> BTW yesterday i install compiz ppa maintaind bu sam spillaz or something
[16:07] <sepisoad> and i'm using 13.04 daily build
[20:42] <komputes> How are users being notified that they are not using a binary driver in the latest releases (ever since jockey was removed)?
[21:01] <jtaylor> not at all I think
[21:01] <jtaylor> at least I never saw anything
[21:07] <penguin42> you can see what driver you have on settings->details if you go and luck
[21:08] <penguin42> look!
[21:09] <jtaylor> he probably meant the bubble popup that told you that proprietary drivers are available
[21:10] <penguin42> nod


[11:52] <thorwil> rsc-: hi, how is it going?
[15:25] <rsc-> sup fellas.
[15:50]  * _MMA_ waves
[15:52] <thorwil> rsc-: i vaguely recall that you wanted to meditate about what i wrote about the means to deliver the message ;)
[15:55] <rsc-> oh yeah, any developments on kyudo?
[15:56] <thorwil> rsc-: no, delayed for work for wubi, mudlet and another attempt at a logo for lumiera :}
[15:57] <thorwil> plus i have been runing the experiment: how long until someone asks me ... but just now decided to cancel it ;)
[15:58] <rsc-> mudlet?
[15:59] <rsc-> i got a chance to talk to Troy, he was working on something for Lumiera too
[15:59] <thorwil> rsc-: see http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/mudlet-3/
[15:59] <_MMA_> Troy needs to get his queer but back in here.
[15:59] <_MMA_> *butt