[01:22] <ScottL> ochosi, i searched in the xubuntu-default-settings and xubuntu-artwork packages (well, grep'd) and only found the distributor-logo.svg in the elementary theme directory
[01:22] <ScottL> i'm guessing i'm going to have to figure out how to do some vodoo about replacing these (or renaming these) so the ubiquity partman.py will work
[01:28] <pleia2> knome: looks good :)
[02:53] <Unit193> knome: /usr/share/irssi/scripts/topic-diff.pl or I can upload it.
[05:04] <knome> Unit193, hmmh, yeah, that's not optimal, but tbh, i don't know what i was expecting :D
[05:04] <knome> Unit193, it probably works just like i want :)
[05:04] <Unit193> Note, it's still a bit funky at times, but better than nothing.
[05:05] <knome> yeah, thanks for the tip
[05:05]  * knome didn't succeed well at sleeping
[05:05] <knome> hit the bed 4 hours ago, but i've probably slept no more than 3 hours max
[05:07] <knome> pleia2, oh damn, forgot to ask you... could you take care of changing the logo in g+?
[06:10] <knome> anybody here with a wikipedia account?
[06:17] <benonsoftware> knome: Yes?
[06:17] <knome> benonsoftware, can you do us a favour and replace the xubuntu logos in wikipedia, i will provide you the files
[06:18] <benonsoftware> Yeah
[06:18] <knome> k, just a sec, i'll upload
[06:18] <knome> the logos to be replaced are:
[06:19] <knome> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu_Logo.svg
[06:19] <knome> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu_Logo2.svg
[06:19] <knome> the files to replace with are:
[06:19] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/web_wikipedia/
[06:19] <knome> benonsoftware, thanks!
[06:19] <benonsoftware> knome: No problem
[06:21] <benonsoftware> Hmm, do I upload a commletly new one, as I'm not sure how do edit the old ones
[06:21] <knome> ummh, i can look at it
[06:22] <knome> i mean - i have an account for a client, but don't want to use it to do this ;)
[06:23] <knome> benonsoftware, below the file history, there's a link saying "upload a new version of this file"
[06:24] <benonsoftware> knome: Ah, yes sorry
[06:24] <benonsoftware> I'll do it right now
[06:24] <knome> benonsoftware, for the "File changes" field in that page, you can use just "New official logo"
[06:24] <benonsoftware> Okies
[06:24] <knome> thanks!
[06:24] <benonsoftware> No problem
[06:27] <benonsoftware> knome: Done
[06:28] <knome> benonsoftware, thanks!
[06:28] <benonsoftware> No worries
[06:28] <knome> hmmh, i wonder when the wikipedia pages are updated
[06:28] <knome> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu
[06:29] <knome> the logo is a "bit" stretched ;))
[06:29] <knome> fixed that with committing an empty update to the page
[06:30] <knome> but the problem will still exist in the other language versions
[06:30] <knome> hmm. looks like that didn't even save a revision in the history \o/
[06:32]  * knome goes "updating" all the pages
[06:35] <Unit193> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Xubuntu810.png That's a bit odd of a menu button.
[06:35] <knome> mmh :)
[06:37] <knome> k, all the language versions are update
[06:37] <knome> s
[06:37] <knome> d
[06:37] <knome> :P
[07:08]  * knome is off
[07:08] <knome> see you all later
[07:09]  * benonsoftware waves bye to knome
[07:36] <xumumu> hello
[08:30] <ochosi> if there's anyone with a precise install up for a little testing please ping me
[08:49] <mr_pouit> ScottL: micahg: I think the latest ubuntu-studio-default-settings upload is missing conffile handling (afaik your menu file is a conffile, so you're missing the maintscript stuff to move it)
[08:50] <mr_pouit> (just from a quick look, I can be wrong ;-)
[11:44] <ScottL> mr_pouit, hmmm, interesting
[11:45] <ScottL> mr_pouit, i thought the menu under the /xdg-ubuntustudio directory gets copied to the computer and the system knows to use one of these directories when existing....
[11:46] <ScottL> oh, i think i may see my issue, what if say you installed kde or lubuntu and they put _their_ menu out there too, then which menu gets used
[11:47] <ScottL> there would be several /xdg-* directories and lots of menus
[11:47] <ScottL> tonight i'll dig through how xubuntu does it and fix it
[11:49] <mr_pouit> (I'm only speaking about the packaging: /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/foo.menu was renamed to /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/menus/xfce-foo.menu, it's a conffile, and i couldn't find any maintscript in there, so the old file won't be deleted, and if the admin made changes to it, they won't be kept by the rename)
[11:49] <mr_pouit> garcon will choose a menu file depending on XDG_MENU_PREFIX and other env vars
[12:04] <ScottL> mr_pouit, it would seem that you are speaking of when someone "updates" or installs "ubuntustudio-default-settings" on an existing non-US system?
[12:04]  * ScottL admits that he had not considered these use cases, just the initial install
[12:06] <mr_pouit> I'm speaking about http://wiki.debian.org/DpkgConffileHandling#Moving_a_conffile
[12:09] <ScottL> ah, yes, i remember seeing the maintainer script in the xubuntu packages, i will read this in more depth later today and hopefully implement it tonight
[12:09]  * ScottL is getting himself and the kids ready for the day and is about to leave
[12:29] <ScottL> i am about to walk out the door for the day but i wanted to say thank you mr_pouit for point this out, i really do appreciate the help :)
[13:42] <ochosi> for everyone's reference, i just submitted a bugreport about abiword's broken ruler-colors upstream (after discussing with the devs in their irc chan about it): http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13301
[14:00] <pleia2> knome: http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/logo-icon-large.png and -small are very similar, could we have a larger large?
[14:00] <pleia2> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oJV4dNJAPw4/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAOc/nKLwauMl8is/s200-c-k/photo.jpg is the one we currently use for g+
[14:52] <micahg> mr_pouit: scott-work: nice catch, thanks, I'll fix this a little later
[15:00] <scott-work> micahg:  thank you very much, i'm sure you will do a much more effective and proficient job than i would :-)
[15:15] <micahg> astraljava: can you test the onboard fix if I upload to my PPA?
[15:19] <micahg> astraljava: sorry, thought you reported the bug
[15:19] <micahg> anyone available to test the onboard fix?
[15:30] <micahg> can someone please test bug 963216 for onboard with the package from ppa:micahg/ppa and let #ubuntu-release know if the onboard fix works?  you must *not* have mousetweaks installed
[15:30]  * micahg has to run
[17:08] <astraljava> micahg: I can, when I get home, which is in about 3-4 hours from now.
[17:08] <astraljava> knome: others: Are we interested in new images due to kernel and update-manager updates?
[18:12] <ochosi> quick feedback about abiword: the rulers probably won't be fixed in abiword itself but in gtk3.4
[18:13] <ochosi> the gtk3 version with gtk3.2 works just fine
[18:13] <ochosi> so the abiword-devs don't want to waste time looking into that (and i have to say i kinda see their point)
[18:13] <ochosi> at least not until gtk3.4 is out and in debian
[18:13] <ochosi> so we'll have to live with what we got
[18:14] <ochosi> bbl
[20:50] <astraljava> knome: ochosi: mr_pouit: If no one wants to have images respinned, I'll mention this on -release soon-ish.
[21:12] <micahg> mr_pouit: doesn't debhelper handle conf file changes automagically now?
[21:34] <micahg> astraljava: you can check onboard with the archive version as it was accepted already
[21:35] <astraljava> micahg: Sure thing.
[21:35] <astraljava> Syncing the image now.
[21:40] <micahg> mr_pouit: you're right, it's not reaped properly...will fix
[21:42] <ochosi> astraljava: what do you mean exactly by respinning the images?
[21:50] <astraljava> ochosi: There were major updates to kernel and update-manager. -release wanted to know whether we're interested about them being added to Xubuntu Beta-2 images. But then the onboard fix calls for a respin anyway, and apparently there were other grave bugs that were fixed, and Kate rather adamantly persuaded for a respin after all. :)
[21:50] <astraljava> ochosi: So, in a nut-shell, there'll be new ISOs in the tracker shortly.
[21:50] <ochosi> oh, cool
[21:50] <ochosi> thanks!
[21:51] <ochosi> i guess i'll be seeing/testing that in my real-install of precise soonish anyway
[21:51] <astraljava> No worries. :) I'll test the onboard fix soon, installing from a synced image currently.
[21:51] <ochosi> ah, k
[21:51] <ochosi> what exactly wasn't working with onboard?
[21:51] <ochosi> last time i tested it everything worked perfectly fine
[21:54] <astraljava> ochosi: onboard (0.97.0-0ubuntu3) precise; urgency=low
[21:54] <astraljava>   * Fix string encodings mismatch without mousetweaks; This fixes an issue
[21:54] <astraljava>     where onboard fails to launch on Xubuntu which doesn't have mousetweaks
[21:54] <astraljava>     installed by default (LP: #958385)
[21:54] <ochosi> oh
[21:54] <ochosi> what are mousetweaks? :)
[21:55] <astraljava> Don't ask me, I just work here.™
[21:55] <ochosi> hehe
[21:56]  * ochosi asks himself where the "tm" is on is keyboard
[21:56] <astraljava> ctrl+u, 2122+<space>
[21:56] <astraljava> Wait, shift+ctrl+u.
[21:57] <ochosi> astraljava rocks.™
[21:57] <ochosi> i admire you for knowing that by heart :)
[21:57] <astraljava> ...to Ayreon.
[21:57] <ochosi> you must be using this a lot
[21:58] <astraljava> Sometimes. There are some cool unicodes that I sometimes throw in for spicing things up. I'm a weirdo, like that, too.
[21:58] <Unit193> Yes, yes he is.
[21:58] <ochosi> sounds good :)
[21:58] <ochosi> hehe
[21:58] <ochosi> btw, do any of you two have a precise testing-box?
[21:59] <Unit193> Real? No. ;/
[21:59] <Unit193> Vbox.....
[21:59] <ochosi> that's fine too
[21:59] <ochosi> i updated bluebird's gtk3 theme yesterday
[21:59] <ochosi> and it'd be great if others could test it as well
[21:59] <ochosi> otherwise i might be overlooking things
[22:00] <Unit193> Sweetness! (I've not been able to get at that vbox, but that's on it for sure now)
[22:00] <ochosi> :)
[22:00] <ochosi> it's in github (github.com/shimmerproject/Bluebird)
[22:00] <ochosi> would be great if you could give me some feedback
[22:01] <astraljava> ochosi: I can test it tomorrow, I'll hit the hay immediately once I get the onboard fix verified.
[22:01] <ochosi> i know it's far from perfect, i only had one afternoon to rebase it on greybird and port the most obvious portions of it
[22:01] <ochosi> astraljava: sure, anytime is great!
[22:07] <ochosi> k, off to bed
[22:07] <ochosi> see y'all
[22:15] <astraljava> micahg: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/onboard-precise.png
[22:15] <micahg> astraljava: do you have mousetweaks installed?
[22:15] <micahg> ah, you got it all there :)
[22:15] <astraljava> micahg: Yep. :)
[22:16] <micahg> astraljava: excellent, please notify -release that we're good for a respin at their leisure
[22:16] <astraljava> micahg: I will. Thanks a bunch!
[22:16] <micahg> astraljava: thanks


[16:01] <coreycb> o/
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <gnuoy> o/
[16:01] <beisner> o/
[16:01] <coreycb> Hey all, I'll be chairing the ubuntu-server meeting today.  First timer!
[16:01] <matsubara> o/
[16:02] <coreycb> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  3 16:02:19 2014 UTC.  The chair is coreycb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:02] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:02] <lutostag> o/
[16:02] <coreycb> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] <coreycb> There were no action items from last week's meeting
[16:03] <coreycb> #topic Utopic Development
[16:03] <coreycb> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[16:03] <rharper> o/
[16:03] <coreycb> vUDS is next week
[16:03] <gnuoy> hi kickinz1
[16:04] <kickinz1> Hi gnuoy!
[16:04] <coreycb> schedule says June 12th (Monday - Wednesday) - so I'm not exactly sure what days it is
[16:04] <coreycb> probably mon-wed, and completed by thurs June 12th
[16:04] <gaughen> o/
[16:05] <coreycb> gaughen, can you confirm my statement? :)
[16:05] <gaughen> coreycb, it's June 10-12
[16:05] <gaughen> which is Tue-Thu
[16:05] <coreycb> Ok thanks.  So mark your calendars!
[16:05] <gaughen> I'm still working on topics, so if someone has a suggestion for something fabulous - I'm all ears!
[16:06] <coreycb> Does anyone have anything else to metion regarding vUDS?
[16:06] <beisner> is that the virtual Unicorn Developer Summit?
[16:07] <coreycb> lol, sounds close enough
[16:07] <coreycb> alright, moving on
[16:07] <gaughen> beisner, GENIUS!
[16:07] <coreycb> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-u-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:07] <beisner> that was for you, gaughen
[16:07] <coreycb> let me try that again
[16:07] <coreycb> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:08] <coreycb> topic is not changing
[16:08] <coreycb> I think we're good
[16:08] <coreycb> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-u-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:09] <coreycb> we have 3 high importance bugs
[16:09] <coreycb> bug 1319555
[16:10] <coreycb> That bug is fix released for utopic.  It looks like Precise and trusty are still in the works?
[16:10] <gaughen> hrmm, utlemming isn't in the meeting
[16:11] <coreycb> smoser, maybe you know
[16:11] <smoser> checking. i think its fixed.
[16:11] <smoser> or they said not important.
[16:11] <smoser> yeah, he marked it invalid
[16:11] <smoser> why would it still be on a list ?
[16:11] <smoser> odd.
[16:11] <smoser> that list seems out of date then.
[16:11] <coreycb> ah yes it says invalid for precise and trusty
[16:12] <coreycb> #action refresh bug list
[16:12] <meetingology> ACTION: refresh bug list
[16:12] <gaughen> ooh I've never done an action, coreycb
[16:12] <gaughen> you are fancy
[16:12] <coreycb> I'm pretty fancy
[16:12] <coreycb> bug 1315052
[16:12]  * rharper copies coreycb as QOTD
[16:13] <coreycb> hallyn_, anything new there?  Looks to be fixed everywhere but trusty.
[16:13] <smoser> coreycb and his hashtags.
[16:13] <hallyn_> i think that may actually be fixed, but not sure
[16:14] <hallyn_> fix committed upstream anyway
[16:14] <coreycb> hallyn_, Sounds good
[16:14] <coreycb> and last but not least
[16:14] <coreycb> bug 1317587
[16:15] <coreycb> That's in progress.  Do we need to follow up with Scott Kitterman on that?
[16:16] <coreycb> gaughen, jamespage, smoser, anyone?
[16:17]  * coreycb insert Ferris Bueller quote
[16:17]  * gaughen avoids eye contact
[16:17] <rharper> those are nice shoes
[16:17] <coreycb> ok moving on
[16:17] <coreycb> heh
[16:17] <coreycb> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:17] <gaughen> :-)
[16:17] <coreycb> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-u/group/topic-u-server.html
[16:18] <coreycb> #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-u-server
[16:18] <coreycb> We're making progress on some of these
[16:18] <gaughen> coreycb, the team is working on getting the blueprints filled out completley
[16:18] <gaughen> I'm expecting we'll get them solidified around vUDS
[16:18] <coreycb> gaughen, Great, sounds good
[16:18] <gaughen> overall, I'm very pleased with where we are in the cycle blueprint wise - YEAH TEAM!!!!!!
[16:19] <coreycb> great, moving on
[16:19] <coreycb> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:20] <caribou> well, follow-up on blueprint topic
[16:20] <caribou> I created this one : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-u-networked-kdump
[16:20] <gaughen> caribou, ah, I should link that in... although it's rather blank ;-)
[16:20] <caribou> pls confirm that it is no longer required
[16:20] <caribou> as I'm doing the work on debian first
[16:21] <caribou> so it will be merged in from debian
[16:21] <caribou> so no need for a blueprint then, right ?
[16:22] <caribou> aside from that, I'm good, nothing else to bring up coreycb
[16:22] <coreycb> I'm not sure.  Maybe jamespage or smoser knows.
[16:22] <gaughen> caribou, I would say we'd want one if there is anything we need to make sure to do in the release
[16:22] <smoser> reading
[16:22] <smoser> caribou, theres never actually any *need* for a blueprint :)
[16:23] <smoser> it wouldnt hurt to have a blueprint, it cna still trak items that are done in debian.
[16:23] <smoser> [caribou] get stuff into debian
[16:23] <smoser> [caribou] make sure stuff works in ubuntu
[16:23] <smoser> ...
[16:23] <caribou> smoser: ok, will do that & get it approved
[16:23] <smoser> obviously better tasks than that are allowed :)
[16:23] <coreycb> ok thanks
[16:24] <coreycb> next topic
[16:24] <coreycb> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (psivaa)
[16:24] <coreycb> It looks like psivaa is not around
[16:24] <coreycb> next topic
[16:25] <coreycb> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)
[16:25] <smb> Hi there. And sorry not really much to say.
[16:25] <coreycb> Ok smb, thanks for the update :)
[16:26] <coreycb> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:26] <coreycb> well, as we mentioned earlier vUDS is next week.  Anything else going on?
[16:26] <gaughen> caribou, do we want to discuss kdump at vuds?
[16:27] <caribou> gaughen: sure we could schedule something
[16:27] <caribou> gaughen: if there is any interest
[16:27] <gaughen> caribou, my goal would be to have the blueprint all sorted by the end of next week.
[16:27] <gaughen> and if we need a vUDS session to help do that, so be it
[16:28] <gaughen> coreycb, there's an Openstack meetup in London on Thursday.
[16:28] <gaughen> it's open to the community. gnuoy and jamespage are going
[16:28] <gaughen> that is all I can think of
[16:28] <coreycb> Great, thanks gaughen
[16:28] <coreycb> #topic Open Discussion
[16:28] <coreycb> Does anyone have anything else they'd like to cover?
[16:29] <gaughen> here's the info on the event - http://www.eventbooking.uk.com/openstack/home.html
[16:29] <coreycb> alrighty, thanks everyone
[16:29] <coreycb> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:29] <coreycb> +7 days
[16:30] <coreycb> #endmeeting
[16:30] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun  3 16:30:18 2014 UTC.
[16:30] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-06-03-16.02.moin.txt
[16:30] <gaughen> thanks Coreycb!
[16:30] <gnuoy> thanks coreycb
[16:30] <caribou> thanks coreycb
[16:30] <rharper> thanks
[16:30] <coreycb> gaughen, gnuoy, caribou, rharper: thanks for the thanks! :)
[16:30] <gaughen> lol
[16:30] <gaughen> coreycb, thanks for the thanks for the thanks
[16:30] <coreycb> oh boy..
[16:31] <gaughen> ha!
[16:31] <gaughen> coreycb, I blame beisner. he mentioned unicorn and then I got all amped up
[16:32] <beisner> ;)
[16:32] <coreycb> gaughen, hehe
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun  3 17:00:19 2014 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Utopic
[17:00] <smb> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> o/
[17:00] <rtg> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <apw> o/
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <sconklin_> o/ :-)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> No new update this week.
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-u/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:01] <ogasawara> || apw       || core-1405-kernel || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || core-1405-kernel || 2 work items ||
[17:01] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Utopic Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <ogasawara> We have most recently rebased our Utopic kernel to v3.15-rc8 and
[17:02] <ogasawara> uploaded (3.15.0-5.10).  We are planning on converging on the v3.16
[17:02] <ogasawara> kernel for Utopic.  It also appears that the Utopic release date has
[17:02] <ogasawara> been pushed out a week to Thurs Oct 23 in order to not conflict with
[17:02] <ogasawara> the Linux Plumbers Conference.
[17:02] <ogasawara> -----
[17:02] <ogasawara> Important upcoming dates:
[17:02] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[17:02] <ogasawara> Mon-Wed June 10 - 12, UOS - Ubuntu Online Summit (~1 week away)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Thurs Jun 26 - Alpha 1 (~3 weeks away)
[17:02] <ogasawara> Fri Jun 27 - Kernel Freeze for 12.04.5 and 14.04.1 (~3 weeks away)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's
[17:02] <jsalisbury> The current CVE status can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Trusty/Saucy/Precise/Lucid (bjf/henrix/kamal/arges)
[17:02] <henrix> Status for the main kernels, until today (June 3):
[17:02] <henrix>   *   Lucid - Verification and Testing
[17:02] <henrix>   * Precise - Verification and Testing
[17:02] <henrix>   * Quantal - No changes this cycle
[17:02] <henrix>   *   Saucy - Verification and Testing
[17:02] <henrix>   *  Trusty - Verification and Testing
[17:03] <henrix>
[17:03] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:03] <henrix>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:03] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:03] <henrix>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:03] <henrix>
[17:03] <henrix> Schedule:
[17:03] <henrix>
[17:03] <henrix> cycle: 18-May through 07-Jun
[17:03] <henrix> [17:03] <henrix>          16-May   Last day for kernel commits for this cycle
[17:03] <henrix> 18-May - 24-May   Kernel prep week.
[17:03] <henrix> 25-May - 31-May   Bug verification & Regression testing.
[17:03] <henrix> 01-Jun - 07-Jun   Regression testing & Release to -updates.
[17:05] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:06] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:06] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:06] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Jun  3 17:06:31 2014 UTC.
[17:06] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2014/ubuntu-meeting.2014-06-03-17.00.moin.txt


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[16:38] <xerosis> if plasma-desktop doesn't start automatically after uninstalling kubuntu-netbook should I file a bug against kdebase-workspace-bin or plasma-netbook?
[18:00] <adiroiban> hi, just a short question. In Jaunty we have both kde4libs and kdelibs.
[18:01] <adiroiban> why is it so? are they both used?
[18:01] <adiroiban> I'm investigating their translations
[18:01] <adiroiban> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kde4libs
[18:01] <adiroiban> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/kde4libs
[18:01] <adiroiban> most precisly, desktop_kdelibs is available in both
[18:04] <adiroiban> Bug 444635
[19:39] <JontheEchinda> adiroiban: kdelibs is KDE3, kde4libs is KDE4
[19:42] <adiroiban> and we also have kdebase-runtime
[19:43] <adiroiban> From the translation point of view kcmshell , is included in both kdebase-runtime and kdelilbs
[19:44] <adiroiban> I assumed it was moved from one package to another
[19:44] <adiroiban> but I don't know the direction
[19:45] <JontheEchinda> kcmshell in kdelibs is the kcmshell from KDE3
[19:49] <adiroiban> so in Karmic, we have 2 versions of kcmshell ?
[19:50] <adiroiban> the problem is that they use the same translation domain
[19:50] <adiroiban> and this is a conflict
[19:50] <adiroiban> in the case the translations are not identical
[19:50] <JontheEchinda> yes, two versions of kcmshell
[19:54] <adiroiban> ok. thanks.
[19:55] <adiroiban> in this case we have the same problem with libkscreensaver
[19:55] <adiroiban> as we have one version in kdebase-workspace and another one in kdelibs
[19:55] <adiroiban> is this right?
[19:57] <JontheEchinda> yeah, it moved to kdebase-workspace in KDE4
[20:13] <adiroiban> ok. for now I will disable the translations from kdelibs and report a bug
[20:13] <adiroiban> is this ok ?
[20:14] <adiroiban> but before this I will send an email on kubuntu-devel


[07:51] <Saviq> trainguards, hey, not sure what happened here https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1634 but http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml doesn't show any of those tests running - maybe we could publish already?
[07:57] <Saviq> ah it's QA-acked already so britney status doesn't update any more
[08:57] <popey> Anyone else getting adb failure on turbo since latest update?
[08:58] <popey> I have plugged mine into various usb ports - only have one cable
[08:58] <popey> mtp fails, and adb fails also. I can't connect to the phone at all
[08:59] <popey> (I can get in over ssh)
[09:00] <jibel> popey, this is bug 1599145
[09:00] <jibel> it's landing
[09:01] <jibel> the fix is
[09:01] <popey> oh, super!  😃
[09:02] <popey> thanks jibel
[09:10] <popey> jibel: fyi https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1638
[09:11] <jibel> popey, thanks, will get it done today
[09:12] <popey> thank you
[09:53] <jibel> Saviq, do you know what is going on with the publication of silo 12?
[09:58] <Saviq> jibel, see above, alesage ACKed it already last night so britney status isnt' updated any more - it can be published
[09:58] <jibel> trainguards ^
[09:58] <sil2100> I think I published that some hours ago?
[09:59] <sil2100> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1634
[09:59] <Saviq> ah now it updated the status
[09:59] <sil2100> Is something wrong with it?
[10:00] <Saviq> sil2100, no, it's good
[10:19] <rvr> sil2100: Hey. In latest rc image (#59, krillin) I see that Telegram shows the read header. I thought this was fixed.
[10:20] <rvr> sil2100: s/read/red/
[10:20] <rvr> com.ubuntu.telegram	<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:21] <rvr> version custom: 20160624-981-38-12
[10:29] <sil2100> hm, let me check what custom tarball is used
[10:29] <sil2100> :|
[10:32] <sil2100> rvr: ...could you update and try now?
[10:32] <sil2100> hmm
[10:32] <sil2100> Wait
[10:33] <sil2100> hm, no, ok, could you try now?
[10:33] <sil2100> Strange thing that it wasn't there
[10:33] <rvr> sil2100: Ok, I'll check when I'm done with unav
[10:35] <sil2100> It's so confusing with everything landing last minute...
[10:35] <rvr> sil2100: :(
[10:36] <sil2100> I used the cusotm tarballs we used during the first rc candidates copied from rc-proposed, but I guess those didn't have the latest tarball with telegram?
[10:36] <sil2100> eh, don't have time to check that, will investigate later
[10:50] <sil2100> jibel: hey! THe indicator-network fix for the data toggle was also for OTA-12, right?
[11:02] <rvr> sil2100: This looks better
[11:03] <rvr> sil2100: com.ubuntu.telegram	<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:03] <rvr> No red header anymore
[11:06] <sil2100> rvr: thanks for checking! Sorry for the wrong customs, I guess that's what happens when we have things landing at the last minute
[11:07] <sil2100> rvr: I'll be re-building rc with all the latest changes (maybe the latest langpacks too)
[11:09] <rvr> sil2100: Great!
[11:10] <sil2100> Requesting translations export
[11:38] <rvr> popey: Hi
[11:38] <popey> rvr: hey
[11:38] <rvr> popey: https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/577ccd427a16bfc93e70ee96/540x960/79bd456d82c64cb36d2e2b6a538fced5/screenshot20160706_123033456.png
[11:39] <popey> noted.
[11:40] <popey> passed that on upstream, thank you rvr !
[11:46] <rvr> popey: Silo approved
[11:46]  * popey hugs rvr
[11:46] <popey> you dont want to block on the above screenshot?
[12:11] <jibel> popey, I don't thin we should block on this. Especially given the issue with the new T&C.
[12:11] <jibel> think*
[12:11] <jibel> you can always resubmit a minor update
[12:28] <popey> jibel: ok, thanks
[12:55] <jhodapp> sil2100, what's the status of silo 36 landing for rc-proposed?
[13:05] <sil2100> jhodapp: oh, I thought it landed
[13:05] <jhodapp> sil2100, the silo request page doesn't say it landed
[13:05] <jhodapp> sil2100, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1622
[13:06] <sil2100> I guess QA needs to take a look at that
[13:06] <jhodapp> davmor2, ^
[13:06] <sil2100> rvr, davmor2: hey! The media-hub silo we had for OTA-12 got rebuilt with one media-hub landing that got pushed to rc-proposed earlier, do you guys want to give it a spin before I land it?
[13:07] <rvr> sil2100: davmor2 ^
[13:09] <pmcgowan> sil2100, did we not get an rc-rpoposed build? is one planned?
[13:12] <davmor2> sil2100: no it can land as far as we know there is no change as such so it should be good
[13:15] <sil2100> davmor2: thanks!
[13:15] <sil2100> pmcgowan: we didn't? I see one imported today
[13:16] <sil2100> pmcgowan: https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/version-377.json ?
[13:16] <pmcgowan> sil2100, hmm ok didnt get notified on a couple devices
[13:16] <pmcgowan> let me check
[13:19] <sil2100> jibel, rvr, davmor2: once the newly exported langpacks are built, I will copy them over to the snapshot and build a new rc image
[13:19] <rvr> sil2100: Cool
[13:26] <jhodapp> sil2100, davmor2, rvr, thanks
[14:56] <sil2100> jibel, davmor2, rvr: ugh, the langpacks still didn't build, we seem to not have enough amd64 builders?!
[14:57] <rvr> sil2100: Did the dbus fix land in rc images?
[14:57] <sil2100> rvr: not sure if the current rc one has it
[14:57] <sil2100> rvr: no, I don't think it does, as it landed recently
[14:58] <sil2100> A re-spin is required, but I'm still waiting as our amd64 builders are all busy
[14:58] <sil2100> :|
[14:58] <rvr> sil2100: Ok, I have an issue with the dialer app not being dismissed in incoming calls, and could be related
[15:04] <pmcgowan> sil2100, oh crap I just updated thinkign that landed
[15:04] <pmcgowan> is it in proposed?
[15:04] <sil2100> pmcgowan: it landed in rc-proposed
[15:04] <sil2100> But not in rc yet ;)
[15:04]  * sil2100 waiting for free builders still
[15:09] <pmcgowan> sil2100, ok great


[21:55] <BobJonkman1> Ready to party?
[21:55] <BobJonkman1> Again?
[21:55] <BobJonkman1> (exciting times!)
[22:51] <dscassel> I think I'm out.
[22:51] <dscassel> Part of me wants to. But most of me wants to take a nap. :/
[22:52] <dscassel> Take pictures!
[23:04] <mcpherrin> party?
[23:36] <mcpherrin> erg, ubuntu 13.04 totally broke kerberized nfs :(