[12:01] <yomm> jrib : thx
[12:01] <atomik1> poolie: Perhaps.
[12:02] <Renu23> hello and help
[12:02] <waffles_> jrib: thanks
[12:02] <yomm> !lirc
[12:02] <ubotu> lirc: Linux Infra-red Remote Control support. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 308 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[12:02] <Renu23> on my desktop apears bug buddy...and i can not stop it and can not acces anything from aplications
[12:02] <atomik1> !quake
[12:02] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[12:02] <poolie> atomik1: if you have a NAT try specifying the external ip by hand when running the torrent
[12:03] <atomik1> !quake3
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <paradizelost> hey all, how do i disable a service from starting automatically and/or see what is starting when?
[12:03] <atomik1> poolie: this box IS the nat
[12:03] <atomik1> :)
[12:03] <ttmrichter> So how do I reset and restart the sound system without shutting down the machine?
[12:03] <Renu23> can anybody help me....?
[12:03] <poolie> paradizelost: i'd do it by removing the S?? files from /etc/rc2.d
[12:03] <poolie> there may be a more official/friendly way
[12:04] <Renu23> on my desktop apears bug buddy...and i can not stop it and can not acces anything from aplications or anything of ubuntu
[12:04] <pingpongboss> paradizelost, try menu System -> Administration -> Services
[12:04] <paradizelost> pingpongboss, on server install, no gui
[12:04] <pingpongboss> paradizelost, ah, nvm then
[12:04] <profoX`> What the hell.. Has anyone experienced this before? "Read-only file system" when I try to write/change something... problem is... the read-only file system is the actual partition I am using right now (root file system)
[12:04] <profoX`> :/ looks like a very big bug
[12:04] <poolie> Renu23: you can't click any other menu items?
[12:04] <eilker> i wanna upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 , which command pls ?
[12:05] <poolie> profoX`: can you get up a terminal?
[12:05] <profoX`> poolie: yes
[12:05] <Renu23> no
[12:05] <poolie> profoX`: try 'mount'
[12:05] <pingpongboss> eilker, sudo update-manager -c  is the "official' way
[12:05] <profoX`> poolie: already tried mount -a
[12:05] <profoX`> poolie: but I don't think you can really remount your root partition when you are using it..
[12:05] <pingpongboss> eilker, it's how i did it. dont forget the -c flag
[12:05] <eilker> thanx
[12:06] <eilker> but kubuntu here
[12:06] <Renu23> even if i try alt+f2
[12:06] <poolie> profoX`: are you in recovery mode or something?
[12:06] <poolie> profoX`: you can do 'remount -o rw,remount /'
[12:06] <pingpongboss> eilker, i'd think that it's the same command.. might wanna ask some others
[12:06] <eilker> i see
[12:06] <Renu23> poolie any idee?
[12:06] <profoX`> poolie: rebooting is only my last resort....
[12:06] <poolie> but if it just suddenly went ro this might indicate a drive error
[12:07] <poolie> Renu23: System/Administration/Software sources
[12:07] <poolie> Renu23: or 'preferences' in software update
[12:07] <poolie> whichever is present in that version
[12:07] <Renu23> i can not acces them
[12:08] <profoX`> poolie: ah ye.. dmesg reports trouble, you might be right
[12:08] <ttmrichter> Thanks guys.
[12:08] <poolie> profoX`: my disk died on Tuesday too... i just got back up .,.. good luck
[12:09] <Renu23> poolie can u help me in mc to do anything?
[12:09] <faLUCE>  Hi. I'm trying to run this simple makefile: http://rafb.net/p/BykcSi60.html but it gives me this error: make: *** No targets.  Stop. . I'm really getting crazy: what's wrong? thnks
[12:10] <waffles_> Ok, so I need more help with mounting an ntfs drive
[12:10] <poolie> Renu23: so you keep getting the 'an application crashed' dialog?
[12:11] <Renu23> i hit ctrl+alt+f1
[12:11] <Renu23> now i am in black window
[12:11] <profoX`> poolie: yea I think I need luck.. damn
[12:11] <Renu23> yes
[12:11] <supervillain> anyone here uses seahorse?, Is it possible for a user to sign/encrypt/decrypt a file in a different computer? because were implementing it in a campus, sorry, there were nobody around in #seahorse.
[12:11] <Renu23> i kkep getting the bug buddy dialog
[12:13] <mcmahon> hey dudes whats upp?
[12:13] <Renu23> poolie...?
[12:13] <mcmahon> ?
[12:13] <atomik1> can I install beryl through apt-get?
[12:13] <mcmahon> yep
[12:13] <atomik1> how?
[12:13] <mcmahon> make sure you also get emerald themes
[12:14] <acid_phyre> hello everyone i just installed ircd-hybrid and cannot find the ircd.conf file to edit the server
[12:14] <Renu23> how can i stop the bug buddy dialog from mc?
[12:14] <jlgaddis> atomik1: Instructions for Ubuntu are on http://www.beryl-project.org/
[12:14] <V4mpire> hey guys i need help with beryl on ubuntu
[12:14] <acid_phyre> or how can i tell if its running
[12:14] <posingaspopular> !beryl
[12:14] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:14] <jlgaddis> acid_phyre: find / -type f -name ircd.conf
[12:14] <atomik1> jlgaddis: last time I ran their install script it messed x up
[12:14] <mcmahon> sudo apt-get install beryl-manager emerald-themes
[12:14] <mcmahon> I think
[12:14] <root__> !offtopic
[12:14] <mcmahon> thats how you do it
[12:14] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:14] <atomik1> thanks mcmahon
[12:14] <acid_phyre> i did that witht eh file search and it found nothing
[12:14] <atomik1> E: Package beryl-manager has no installation candidate
[12:14] <jlgaddis> acid_phyre: find / -type f -name '*ircd.conf*'
[12:14] <mcmahon> hmm
[12:14] <Lasse_> hi guys, my Xorg service is using 99.9% cpu constantly - this is since the dist upgrade that was made available yesterday for hurd 4 ... any takes on it ?
[12:14] <poolie> Renu23: is the system working in other respects?
[12:14] <mcmahon> did you ad the repo?
[12:14] <Phluffy> I just installed Ubuntu to my computer which has 2 hard drives. When I select Ubuntu from Grub it tells me Error 22: Partition doesn't exist and when I select Windows it tells me it can't find NTLDR
[12:14] <atomik1> no.
[12:15] <funpop> !runlevel
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <Fred_Sambo> ubotu:  i am in love with you
[12:15] <Renu23> the system is blocked
[12:15] <atomik1> mcmahon: what repo
[12:15] <mcmahon> 1 sec
[12:15] <atomik1> thx <3
[12:15] <Renu23> i can only reset it from button
[12:15] <mcmahon> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=272104
[12:15] <mcmahon> read that
[12:15] <atomik1> thx
[12:15] <mcmahon> np
[12:16] <mcmahon> that's not the repo
[12:16] <acid_phyre> how come i get permission denied when i try to access that dir?
[12:16] <mcmahon> but it is one of the best guides out there
[12:16] <acid_phyre> its in /usr/ect/ircd-hybrid
[12:16] <Fred_Sambo> haha, now i've got ubotu all to my self in a private message!
[12:16] <acid_phyre> etc*
[12:16] <Phluffy> how come when i use fdisk on the live cd it says it can't find the hard drives?
[12:16] <acid_phyre> but i get permission denied when trying to cd to it
[12:16] <mcmahon>  brb
[12:17] <mcmahon> back
[12:17] <mcmahon> I have a question
[12:17] <jlgaddis> acid_phyre: become root
[12:18] <mcmahon> I am looking at a thinkpad T43 DMU
[12:18] <acid_phyre> just sudo right?
[12:18] <mcmahon> what is a reasonable price?
[12:18] <acid_phyre> other then sudo i dont know how to become root
[12:18] <poolie> Renu23: and when you reboot it what happens?
[12:18] <mcmahon> sudo su
[12:18] <mEck0_> is there any gui for swi-prolog?
[12:19] <Renu23> now i am doing
[12:19] <mcmahon> try sudo su to become root
[12:19] <Renu23> i ll try the recovery mode
[12:19] <Frogzoo> mEck0_: apt-cache search swi-prolog
[12:19] <acid_phyre> ahh ic
[12:19] <acid_phyre> thanks
[12:19] <mcmahon> did it work?
[12:20] <foormea> !torrent
[12:20] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[12:20] <mEck0_> Frogzoo, I've tried it, and found swi-prolog-xpce, but when I try to run xpce or xpce-client, nothing starts
[12:21] <mEck0_> I can start prolog in the terminal though, but it would been nice with a working gui.
[12:21] <mcmahon> does system76 have a channel?
[12:21] <lufi1> Why can't the network applet be removed from the panel in feisty?
[12:21] <funpop> !bootclean
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootclean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <funpop> that bot doesnt know a lot,. eh
[12:22] <poolie> lufi1: i think it's a bug
[12:22] <lufi1> poolie: obviously
[12:22] <rpc> is there such a thing as java for console?
[12:23] <mcmahon> do you guys know if system76 has a channel?
[12:23] <rpc> or does it require X?
[12:23] <poolie> well, it can't be removed because it's not a regular applet but rather a status widget of gnome-nm
[12:23] <poolie> networkmanager
[12:23] <poolie> and feisty seems to always use networkmanager
[12:24] <waffles_> Help: what does this mean?
[12:25] <waffles_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:25] <waffles_>   ntfs-config: Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>= 0.60) but it is not installable
[12:25] <waffles_> E: Broken packages
[12:25] <synic> rpc: java doesn't require X, no
[12:25] <waffles_> I was trying to run the command: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[12:25] <Renu23> poolie the same problem
[12:25] <Smashcat> Hello, anyone aware of an issue with ubuntu 6.1 and the default apache 2.0.55 install that prevents vhosts from logging access? Bizarre, but access is only logged in the default host, not a vhost.
[12:25] <dj_baggio> could somebody tell me which keys I can change my actually active desktop panel in kde?
[12:25] <profoX`> poolie: so.. I remounted the drive rw but it remounts itself back to ro
[12:25] <Renu23> it apears the bug buddy
[12:26] <profoX`> poolie: i guess i'll go in recovery mode and try fsck..... and make a backup of some files....
[12:26] <chalcedony> how can i make a 'keyboard shortcut' or something that wil let me type ' O.C.G.A. ' whenever I hit a couple of keys?
[12:26] <dj_baggio> nobody knows?
[12:27] <chalcedony> dj_baggio: might be a slow time for helpers?
[12:27] <chalcedony> ((((((((((( synic )))))))))))))))))))))
[12:27] <poolie> dj_baggio: in gnome it's ctrl-alt-arrow
[12:27] <dj_baggio> chalcedony: I don't know what i should ask helpers :)
[12:28] <poolie> chalcedony: i don't think there's any systemwide way to do that
[12:28] <chalcedony> poolie: darn.. i need it in vim and oo
[12:28] <daft_> anyone know what the message "compiz: GLX_SGIX_fbconfig is missing" means?
[12:28] <poolie> oh you can do it in vim
[12:28] <dj_baggio> poolie: but it's working only in gnome
[12:28] <dj_baggio> not in kde :/
[12:28] <chalcedony> poolie ok how?
[12:28] <synic> hey chalcedony :)
[12:28] <chalcedony> synic great to see you :)
[12:29] <poolie> chalcedony: :iabbrev hel Hello world
[12:29] <poolie> etc
[12:29] <synic> chalcedony: what have you been up to?
[12:29] <chalcedony> we miss you on undernet #linuxnewbie
[12:29] <chalcedony> synic: still the court case
[12:29] <Renu23> my bug reporting tool is not stopping anymore
[12:30] <harry> Whenever I put my SD card into the reader, it pops up the "photo import" window, and I click "always perform this action" and "ignore", but it keeps popping up...
[12:30] <Renu23> and i can not acces anything from menu
[12:30] <chalcedony> Renu23: sounds frustrating
[12:31] <dj_baggio> any ideas?
[12:31] <poolie> Renu23: what does it say in the dialog?
[12:31] <Smashcat> I see, with ubuntu's apache I must create a custom log for each vhost. great...
[12:32] <owner> ;
[12:32] <jlgaddis> Smashcat: You don't have to.
[12:33] <Renu23> bactrace was generated from '/usr/bin/gnome-panel' that is says
[12:33] <cedriczg> hi there
[12:34] <cedriczg> can someone tell me how to pass by this install message error? /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./texmaker_linux_installer)
[12:34] <tck> quick question peeps, is herd5 up for download yet ?
[12:34] <crimsun> no.
[12:34] <tck> grr..
[12:34] <Smashcat> jigaddis: Seems I do here. (Ubuntu 6.10). Unless I configure a log per vhost, all access logs to vhosts are lost. Not a big deal, all the sites use php with global includes, so I'll log using php instead (can't be bothered to reconfigure 30 odd sites ;-) )
[12:36] <cedriczg> no clue?
[12:36] <linxeh> Smashcat: why not just configure apache to  have a global log then
[12:37] <cedriczg> the texmaker says it is compiled with gcc 4.1.3
[12:38] <goear> Hey
[12:38] <Smashcat> linxeh: It does have a global log. The vhosts don't log to it though. First time I've seen Apache behave that way - guess it's something the ubuntu packagers thought was a good idea.
[12:38] <jlgaddis> Smashcat: Weird.  Normally it'll just the default if you don't specify a vhost-specific logfile.
[12:38] <goear> Hey, I have a little problem, I dont get the whole package list or at least I think so, when Im on my other computer running kubuntu I get much more packages, maybe because there are more for that distrib.. Im not sure.
[12:38] <linxeh> Smashcat: well configure it to do what you want then
[12:39] <jlgaddis> Hmm, snort using 18% CPU.
[12:39] <Smashcat> linxeh: Have, just using php to do the logging instead. Saves time as I only have to configure one central include file ;-)
[12:40] <davidbr> OK, for ubuntu, what is the equivalent of ncftp ?  I want to ftp a file and know I get it !!
[12:40] <linxeh> Smashcat: k - I tend to log to separate vhost files only with apache if I bother using it - most of my stuff is in weblogic or jboss now anyway
[12:40] <jlgaddis> davidbr: ncftp, ncftp3, curl, wget, ...
[12:40] <linxeh> davidbr: sudo apt-get install ncftp etc
[12:41] <savvas> grep: The -P option is not supported << why isn't it supported?
[12:42] <linxeh> savvas: you probably need to have a library installed or something
[12:42] <chairmeleon> hello
[12:42] <NevroPus> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <---- why won't my compiler do this?
[12:42] <chairmeleon> does anyone here know of a good Linux software to draw coordinate systems in?
[12:42] <JamesG> I know this is strictly not ubuntu related, but it's happening on ubuntu, and I haven't tried another distro, so it could be ubuntu specific.. Anyway.. Any ideas on why Azureus has this external error window which pops up and then won't go away when you hit the hide button?
[12:42] <Smashcat> linxeh: Yeah, I work with Apache a lot, but this behaviour is abnormal. I'm guessing it's something in the spidersweb of includes ubuntu sets up that's screwing up the logging. I might just wipe it and install from source.
[12:43] <jlgaddis> Smashcat: That's why I don't run Apache on Ubuntu.
[12:43] <linxeh> savvas: maybe get pcregrep ?
[12:43] <jlgaddis> It's a mess.
[12:43] <dedlycow> hello Chairmeleon
[12:43] <linxeh> jlgaddis: I actually think it is quite nice tbh
[12:43] <poolie> Smashcat: at most just tell it to start from totally separate config files
[12:43] <chairmeleon> dedlycow: hello
[12:43] <poolie> there is noting about this setup in the binary afaik
[12:43] <chairmeleon> did you want to tell me something ? :)
[12:44] <savvas> linxeh: i'll check, hold on
[12:44] <Luis07> I'm currently using mplayer, but due to some errors, I'm planning to give VLC player a try. Is it worthy?
[12:44] <jlgaddis> linxeh: *shrug* I have "my own system" that I've gotten used to over the years, so anything different is annoying.  =)
[12:44] <jlgaddis> linxeh: Red Hat using an /etc/httpd/conf.d/ directory annoys the crap outta me.
[12:44] <NevroPus> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables <---- should I install a new compiler? which?
[12:44] <poolie> uh just use apache -c (or whatever) and you can use your own system
[12:45] <poolie> NevroPus: install gcc :)
[12:45] <jtmoney> does anyone know if feisty fawn, when it's released as final, will have support for intel x64 (ia64) machines?
[12:45] <dedlycow> my first time in here think im in over hhead might have to look else where for more simple help
[12:45] <waffles_> why am I getting this error??
[12:45] <waffles_> waffles@waffles-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[12:45] <waffles_> Reading package lists... Done
[12:45] <waffles_> Building dependency tree
[12:45] <waffles_> Reading state information... Done
[12:45] <waffles_> E: Couldn't find package ntfs-config
[12:45] <Smashcat> jlgaddis: Yeah, I think I'll just build from source. Hate it when packagers enforce their own wacky config setups. Redhat is just as bad though
[12:45] <posingaspopular> jtmoney: it SHOULD
[12:45] <poolie> jtmoney: i think as a community supported port
[12:45] <genii> !pastebin | waffles
[12:45] <ubotu> waffles: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:45] <posingaspopular> 6.10 has 64bit support
[12:45] <posingaspopular> !paste
[12:45] <jlgaddis> Smashcat: True, but I'm used to it on RH.
[12:45] <jtmoney> posingaspopular: that's amd 64
[12:45] <Frogzoo> !docs | dedlycow
[12:45] <poolie> Smashcat: that is really unnecessary, but please yourself
[12:45] <ubotu> dedlycow: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[12:46] <savvas> dedlycow: what would you like to know?
[12:46] <jlgaddis> Wow, another Bloomington person.
[12:46] <posingaspopular> jtmoney: whats the difference?
[12:46] <Smashcat> poolie: I think starting from a clean install is quicker than searching all the ubuntu cruft to find out how they're messing the config up.
[12:46] <jtmoney> you would think there wouldn't be, but there is one
[12:47] <kbrooks> boo.
[12:47] <NevroPus> poolie, already have gcc, but I still get that
[12:47] <poolie> my point is you just need to give one parameter to ignore it...
[12:47] <poolie> NevroPus: look in config.log
[12:47] <NevroPus> do you want the output?
[12:47] <dedlycow> what do I need to download from my vedeo recorder to computer im using ubuntu 6.06lts
[12:47] <poolie> NevroPus: only the bit relating to that error
[12:47] <NevroPus> kk
[12:48] <Smashcat> poolie: What do you mean by one option? Is there a "screwUpLogging = true" setting somewhere in the depths of the /etc/apache2/* tree?
[12:48] <savvas> linxeh: works like a charm, thanks for the tip :)
[12:48] <poolie> Smashcat: sudo apache2 -f ~/my-nice-config
[12:48] <poolie> and all the stuff under /etc will be ignored
[12:48] <Twinxor> make everything.work -t
[12:49] <pooyak> Hi there
[12:49] <Smashcat> poolie: I think that's really just hiding the problem ;-)
[12:49] <pooyak> I recently installed ubuntu edgy on my home headless server
[12:49] <pooyak> now I am wondering if it is autoupdating itself or not
[12:49] <pooyak> I can't seem to find a good clue about that
[12:50] <poolie> Smashcat: if you want to use your own config that's how you do it, recompiling is irrelevant
[12:50] <jrib> pooyak: it shouldn't be
[12:50] <poolie> or delete /etc/apache2 and put your own stuff there is you prefer
[12:50] <pooyak> jrib, how can I turn it on then?
[12:51] <braveheartlion> If I a program saves over a file, is it possible to recover the older version of the file?
[12:51] <pooyak> jrib, I more worrying about security updates
[12:51] <mage> hmm
[12:51] <Smashcat> poolie: That's what I'm doing - I agree it's not worth recompiling. I've just removed the /etc/apache2 mess and started with a single clean file.
[12:51] <braveheartlion> because I'm quite dead if I can't recover
[12:51] <braveheartlion> this would mean that I've lost of my pda data from jpilot. 8-(
[12:52] <mage> is there an easy way to make a bunch of links for a directory?
[12:52] <jlgaddis> braveheartlion: Unless you have a backup, it's gone.
[12:52] <jrib> pooyak: I'm not sure
[12:52] <Selaiah> Anyone running a high quality PCI Soundcard, that worked for you out of the box? (Trying to decide which one to get)
[12:53] <braveheartlion> jlgaddis: no!!!
[12:53] <poolie> mage: what do you mean?
[12:53] <Selaiah> Had to find out my X-Fi doesnt work at all, so pretty much open for anything now.
[12:53] <braveheartlion> =-(
[12:53] <poolie> cp -al maybe?
[12:53] <jrib> pooyak: I guess you could run a cron job, but I seem to recall a pacakge you cajn just install
[12:53] <poolie> pooyak: there is cron-apt
[12:53] <pooyak> jrib, yeah I mean that is very wierd if ubuntu itself don't have something to auto update!
[12:54] <poolie> but maybe update-mananger takes care of it now?
[12:54] <pyrotix> I was trying to configure the dyndns ip redirect mentioned in the wiki, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_assign_Hostname_to_local_machine_with_dynamic_IP_using_free_DynDNS_service , and when I run sudo sh /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update.sh   it returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8014/ . Any idea of what I need to do to fix it?
[12:54] <mage> poolie: hardlinking all of the real files in a directory and just duplicating any softlinks, so I can just use /lib for /nfsroot
[12:54] <NevroPus> poolie, sould I pm you with the output about gcc?
[12:54] <gabz> Selaiah, i've had the creative ones work for me but i'm not sure if thats' high quality any more
[12:54] <poolie> mage: cp -al
[12:54] <poolie> NevroPus: sure
[12:55] <pooyak> poolie, there's a script named apt already in /etc/cron.daily but seems to be only downloading packages but not installing them
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1324: found /usr/bin/gcc
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1334: result: gcc
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1578: checking for C compiler version
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1581: gcc --version </dev/null >&5
[12:55] <NevroPus> gcc (GCC) 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)
[12:55] <NevroPus> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[12:55] <NevroPus> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
[12:55] <Selaiah> gabz: I'm using a Creative X-fi and sadly there's no support for linux what so ever at all. Which one are you using?
[12:55] <NevroPus> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1584: $? = 0
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1586: gcc -v </dev/null >&5
[12:55] <NevroPus> Using built-in specs.
[12:55] <NevroPus> Target: i486-linux-gnu
[12:55] <Frogzoo> NevroPus: no pasting in chan
[12:55] <NevroPus> Configured with: ../src/configure -v --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,treelang --prefix=/usr --enable-shared --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --enable-nls --program-suffix=-4.1 --enable-__cxa_atexit --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-mpfr --enable-checking=release i486-linux-gnu
[12:55] <Frogzoo> !ops
[12:55] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[12:55] <NevroPus> Thread model: posix
[12:55] <NevroPus> gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-13ubuntu5)
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1589: $? = 0
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1591: gcc -V </dev/null >&5
[12:55] <NevroPus> gcc: '-V' option must have argument
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1594: $? = 1
[12:55] <pyrotix> Nevro
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1617: checking for C compiler default output file name
[12:55] <pyrotix> use pastebin
[12:55] <pyrotix> !pastebin
[12:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:55] <NevroPus> configure:1620: gcc    conftest.c  >&5
[12:55] <NevroPus> /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[12:55] <Selaiah> MY gosh Nevro, cantu paste this elsewhere? :p
[12:55] <tim167> NervoPus: !enter
[12:56] <tim167> !enter
[12:56] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:56] <gabz> Selaiah i haven't updated my sound card in years so it's a like a soundblaster platium :S
[12:56] <elkbuntu> !paste | NevroPus,
[12:56] <ubotu> NevroPus,: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:56] <tim167> hi all, i want to extract audio from an .mpeg file using an mplayer command in terminal, can someone help me ? thank you
[12:56] <Selaiah> gabz: Oh :D Well I've been looking for something a bit more recent :P
[12:56] <Selaiah> gabz: Thanks for helping though
[12:56] <elkbuntu> NevroPus, let me know when your paste has finished and i'll unmute you
[12:57] <Moniker42> hey, how can i use the numpad as a mouse/
[12:57] <Moniker42> *mouse?
[12:57] <pyrotix> Alright, peoples, I was trying to configure the dyndns ip redirect mentioned in the wiki, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_assign_Hostname_to_local_machine_with_dynamic_IP_using_free_DynDNS_service , and when I run sudo sh /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update.sh   it returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8014/ . Any idea of what I need to do to fix it?
[12:57] <kbrooks> Moniker42: easy, and i just know how
[12:57] <kbrooks> Moniker42: system -> prefs -> keyboard
[12:57] <kbrooks> Moniker42: accessibility button
[12:58] <Moniker42> kbrooks, there isn't an accessibility tab, you on edgy?
[12:58] <NevroPus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8015/ <---- poolie there's the output
[12:58] <kbrooks> Moniker42: button
[12:58] <kbrooks> Moniker42: not tab
[12:59] <Moniker42> kbrooks, oh yea the big one at the bottom labelled accessibility? ;)
[12:59] <kbrooks> Moniker42: yes
[12:59] <kbrooks> Moniker42: go to last tab in new window, and checkmark enable mouse keys
[12:59] <kbrooks> Moniker42: close both windows
[12:59] <Moniker42> thanks
[12:59] <kbrooks> Moniker42: and heres how to use the mouse
[12:59] <Trelard> I'm having issues with using v6.10 AMD64 live cd.. when I try to start the install it shows the splash screen, then after a minute I see a flashing "prompt" then the screen goes black.. any suggestions please?
[12:59] <Moniker42> just couldn't find it i was trawling through loads of menus there
[12:59] <kbrooks> Moniker42: with numpad:
[01:00] <Moniker42> yea i know
[01:00] <Moniker42> it's also marked on there in arrows :)
[01:00] <NevroPus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8015/ <---- can anyone tell me why it wont compile this?
[01:00] <Moniker42> thanks kbrooks
[01:00] <kbrooks> Moniker42: / means left click. *  means middle. and - means right click
[01:00] <kbrooks> Moniker42: pressing 0 means drag'
[01:00] <Moniker42> cool
[01:01] <pyrotix> can someone help with my question? or will I need to go to the forums instead? :P. You guys don't want to be beaten by the forums...
[01:01] <Moniker42> i just want to read a web comic archive without using the mouse
[01:01] <kbrooks> Moniker42: well, u dont need mouse keys
[01:01] <Trelard> can anyone help me with the issue I am having?
[01:01] <kbrooks> u can simply use the numpad by itself
[01:01] <nexous> I need a good programming font. I have a few .pcf fonts for linux, but no one knows about installing pcf fonts lately.
[01:01] <kbrooks> using the arrows
[01:01] <atomik1> decent FTP client for ubuntu?
[01:01] <pyrotix> Trelard: Don't ask about asking a question
[01:01] <kbrooks> atomik1: gftp
[01:02] <atomik1> kbrooks: thanks
[01:02] <a5benwillis> Can someone help me out with a problem running "apt-get --build source"???
[01:02] <Trelard> i already asked it but no reply
[01:02] <benn92649> ok im back from gym
[01:02] <Moniker42> atomik1, try the firefox extension one
[01:02] <Trelard> I'm having issues with using v6.10 AMD64 live cd.. when I try to start the install it shows the splash screen, then after a minute I see a flashing "prompt" then the screen goes black.. any suggestions please? <-- that is the issue
[01:02] <poolie> NevroPus: install libc6-dev
[01:02] <bimberi> a5benwillis: any error?
[01:02] <benn92649> sooo who whats to help a n00b install Wine the right way
[01:02] <a5benwillis> yes, hold on
[01:02] <kbrooks> benn92649: sudo apt-get install wine
[01:02] <bimberi> a5benwillis: use a pastebin if it's a long one
[01:03] <NevroPus> thanks poolie
[01:03] <pyrotix> Atomic1 / Moniker42: Konqueror works better, just like everything in KDE does =D
[01:03] <Moniker42> don't listen to him!
[01:03] <a5benwillis> bimberi: unmet build dependencies
[01:03] <benn92649> i have Ubuntu 64 can i do the apt install thing?
[01:03] <Moniker42> he's one of those kde fanmonkeys
[01:03] <Moniker42> get fire-ftp for firefox
[01:03] <Moniker42> and stick with lovely shiny gnome ;)
[01:03] <pyrotix> (or KDE)
[01:03] <bimberi> a5benwillis: sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[01:03] <pyrotix> (and KDE is shinier)
[01:03] <kbrooks> Moniker42: pyrotix is not a kde fanmoney
[01:03] <benn92649> i like GNOME
[01:04] <kbrooks> Moniker42: and stop trolling
[01:04] <benn92649> very user friendly
[01:04] <posingaspopular> benn92649: WHY!@>
[01:04] <kbrooks> Moniker42: give everyonwe a choice
[01:04] <nexous> Anyone know how to install PCF Fonts?
[01:04] <Moniker42> kbrooks, i wasn't trolling :)
[01:04] <benn92649> to me its really easy
[01:04] <kbrooks> Moniker42: you were
[01:04] <kbrooks> Moniker42: you got me slightly mad
[01:04] <benn92649> ok so i will try the apt get wine thing
[01:04] <pyrotix> kbrooks: I was the one trolling =)
[01:04] <sspencer> hey yall, is there a specific channel for feisty?
[01:05] <kbrooks> sspencer: #ubuntu+1
[01:05] <a5benwillis> bimberi: Does that JUST get the dependencies and not the package? Im needing to install from pached source.
[01:05] <linxeh> jlgaddis: I'm not bothered by /etc/httpd/conf.d - I think its a neat solution, as is ubuntus. The core is still the same so you can configure it however you want anyway
[01:05] <pyrotix> can someone help with my question? or will I need to go to the forums instead? :P. You guys don't want to be beaten by the forums...
[01:05] <sspencer> kbrooks: thanks
[01:05] <bimberi> a5benwillis: ys, just the deps
[01:05] <bimberi> *yes
[01:05] <Moniker42> atomik1, your choice - if you already have gnome and are used to it fire-ftp is an ftp extension for firefox but if you feel like switching desktop environments completely many people advocate kde and konquerer.... is that better kbrooks? ;)
[01:05] <a5benwillis> bimberi: Thank you VERY much
[01:05] <linxeh> jlgaddis: I used to think the Apple configuration of JBoss was mad, but its much better than the default JBoss install really
[01:05] <pyrotix> I was trying to configure the dyndns ip redirect mentioned in the wiki, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_assign_Hostname_to_local_machine_with_dynamic_IP_using_free_DynDNS_service , and when I run sudo sh /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update.sh   it returns http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8014/ . Any idea of what I need to do to fix it?
[01:05] <bimberi> a5benwillis: yw :)
[01:06] <Trelard> I'm having issues with using v6.10 AMD64 live cd.. when I try to start the install it shows the splash screen, then after a minute I see a flashing "prompt" then the screen goes black.. any suggestions please?
[01:06] <kbrooks> Moniker42: yes ;-)
[01:06] <aridese> i've accidently deleted a critical file in a package, how do i reinstall it with apt-get?
[01:06] <benn92649> didnt work claims that the packet did have an installer or was obsolete?
[01:06] <benn92649> *didnt
[01:06] <sdrev> can i use compiz if i have a via graphics card?
[01:06] <Whitepanda> i think im retarded...i cant install firefox 2, Im running dapper
[01:07] <fryfrog> Has anyone tried to compile their own linux-restricted-modules?
[01:07] <kbrooks> Whitepanda: u have it, dont u?
[01:07] <Whitepanda> can ne1 help, please?
[01:07] <pingpongboss> whitepanda, download firefox from www.getfirefox.com
[01:07] <jlgaddis> w00t
[01:07] <benn92649> I have the newest version on my sektop can some tell me the command prompts in console to get it running
[01:07] <Whitepanda> no its 1. sumthin
[01:07] <jlgaddis> Scored another 1GB flash drive
[01:07] <benn92649> *desktop
[01:07] <aridese> jlgaddis: how?
[01:07] <eilker> i wanna record my desktop as a video file, how can i do it with vlc player ?or with any other tool ?
[01:07] <pingpongboss> whitepanda, i just deleted the old firefox 1.5 by deletign the /opt/firefox folder i thikn
[01:07] <kbrooks> Whitepanda: looking for wiki page
[01:07] <bimberi> a5benwillis: btw, it's 'apt-get source' that gets the package source.  Take care that it won't do that (even with --build) and overwrite your patches.
[01:07] <kbrooks> pingpongboss: no...
[01:07] <jlgaddis> aridese: Someone left it in a lab, no one claimed it after 30 days.
[01:07] <jonah1980_2> hi guys i was considering buying a macbook but i only really want to run linux, is it worth the hassle or should i just stick with a thinkpad or other?
[01:08] <aridese> jlgaddis: oh lol
[01:08] <foormea> !torrent
[01:08] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:08] <nexous> Anyone know how to install PCF Fonts?
[01:08] <benn92649> i hate thinkpads
[01:08] <jonah1980_2> my current laptop with ubuntu is heavy and battery sucks
[01:08] <Trelard> I'm having issues with using v6.10 AMD64 live cd.. when I try to start the install it shows the splash screen, then after a minute I see a flashing "prompt" then the screen goes black.. any suggestions please?
[01:08] <benn92649> LOL
[01:08] <benn92649> sorry it will take about 10 reboots for the live CD to work had the same problem
[01:09] <kbrooks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29 @ whitepanda
[01:09] <Whitepanda> thx
[01:09] <benn92649> windows hates linux anything
[01:09] <Whitepanda> first week w/ linux
[01:09] <sdrev> can i use compiz if i have a via graphics card?
[01:09] <Trelard> benn92649: was that advise for me?
[01:09] <general> 7list
[01:09] <mau> can anybody direct me to a beryl instillation guide for edgy running on parallels?  if that's even possible?
[01:09] <eilker> sdrev yes
[01:09] <mau> oops... I mean Beryl
[01:09] <kbrooks> Whitepanda: dont follow that guide
[01:09] <mau> Beryl on ubuntu on parallels
[01:09] <kbrooks> Whitepanda: please
[01:10] <eilker> !beryl
[01:10] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:10] <alex__> anyone know if there's a configuration file for the workspace switcher? if so, where?
[01:10] <kbrooks> Whitepanda: you're a n00b ... if it aint broke dont fix it
[01:10] <sdrev> eilker, do i need xgl, or will aiglx work?
[01:10] <benn92649> yeah Trelard I took a while for my to get working but afte rthat it seemed to work I think if you have kapersky or a firewall maybe it does something
[01:10] <Whitepanda> fine only cuz it took me damn near a week to install video drivers
[01:10] <eilker> it depends on your graph. card, but most probably xgl
[01:10] <benn92649> im a noob so dont take to much of what i say
[01:11] <sdrev> ok, thanks
[01:11] <benn92649> but, once you install it its a blast
[01:11] <eilker> sdrev what is your card ,?
[01:11] <aridese> Whitepanda: linux may not be the best choice for you -- windows works straight out of the box without any configuration/mucking about etc.
[01:11] <sdrev> s3 unichrome
[01:11] <aridese> Whitepanda: nothing wrong with using it, it's just another operating system
[01:11] <Whitepanda> i want to learn
[01:11] <aridese> Whitepanda: learn on windows
[01:11] <Whitepanda> im microsoft certified
[01:11] <eilker> i have no idea for it...
[01:11] <aridese> Whitepanda: great! learn C/C++
[01:12] <Trelard> benn92649: thanks
[01:12] <benn92649> there is nothing left sacred you can tweak everything in it and it loads 50X times faster than windows uses about a 1/5 of the disk space and about a 1/10th of the CPU to run it under full load
[01:12] <nexous> Anyone know how to install PCF Fonts?
[01:12] <aridese> Whitepanda: linux isn't mature enough for most hardware configratuions, maybe in a couple of years
[01:12] <CodeBanshee> benn92649: software like anti-virus and firewalls doesn't load if you're not booting from your hard disk
[01:12] <Whitepanda> worst case scenario is a complete reinstall
[01:12] <sdrev> heh, me either, i'm trying to use aiglx and compiz, as soon as i start up compiz i just get logged out
[01:12] <aridese> Whitepanda: worst case scenario is you're stuck with a broken linux install
[01:13] <Whitepanda> ok whats a new  harddrive cost
[01:13] <aridese> Whitepanda: around 50-70
[01:13] <benn92649> but I have yet to try and install any windows type stuff
[01:13] <Whitepanda> cheap enough
[01:13] <IndyGunFreak> Whitepanda: check Newegg and Tigerdirect, if you don't need a humongous one, you can get ones that are around 100-120gigs for dirt cheap
[01:13] <benn92649> a new SATA drive about $60 for 300G
[01:13] <linuxnewbie756> I have over 700 .RST files in a folder i would like renamed to .txt files, how would i do that?
[01:13] <Whitepanda> i was really expecting more emcouragement for noobs
[01:14] <kevCast> How do I change icon sets in gnome?
[01:14] <MatrixMon> Can anyone tell me how to change my login sounds?
[01:14] <Archville> linuxnewbie756, mv *.RST{,.txt)
[01:14] <kelsin> kevCast: you can download them from sites like gnome-look.org then drag them into the "Perferences->Themes" window to install them, then use that window to change them
[01:14] <Archville> but i'm not sure it will work, so try it before with a few files
[01:14] <benn92649> ok now Who wants to be my savior and help me to do a flawless victory on Wine install :-D
[01:15] <pingpongboss> anyone know if I can get Beryle or Compiz to work with an integrated Intel graphics card? =/
[01:15] <kevCast> kelsin: Thank you.
[01:15] <linuxnewbie756> Archville, I don't understand, the folder path is /home/matt/Desktop/Here, so what exactly would i type in in terminal?
[01:15] <jlgaddis> Only box I have at $home that has SATA only has 2 ports, but only one drive bay.
[01:15] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: lol, it shouldn't be hard to install.
[01:15] <_pirinto_> MatrixMon: Have you Checked System/Preferences/Sound
[01:15] <MatrixMon> benn sudo apt-get install wine
[01:15] <poolie> NevroPus: you should install build-essential too
[01:15] <benn92649> sure you say that cemosabee
[01:15] <_pirinto_> MatrixMon: I assume you are using gnome as a DE
[01:16] <benn92649> ok so what do i do indy
[01:16] <obake-san> hey
[01:16] <eilker> anyone using kiba-dock ?
[01:16] <MatrixMon> Pirin: I have and tried but it dosn't work right
[01:16] <MatrixMon> benn yeah I am sure
[01:17] <toM|vendettA> hi i'm trying to mount this 2nd hard drive and i just formated it to be ext3 and now i try to mount it and it says this: tommyv@downstairsdesktop:~$ sudo mount -a
[01:17] <toM|vendettA> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,       missing codepage or other error
[01:17] <benn92649> INDY you there? tell me what to do
[01:17] <eilker> ubuntu show http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYsxaMyFV2Y
[01:17] <MatrixMon> Benn: Wine is not that hard to install
[01:17] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: someone posted it... sudo apt-get install wine
[01:17] <jlgaddis> toM|vendettA: What's your entry in /etc/fstab for that drive look like?
[01:17] <benn92649> I am going to go where no noob should go, install a windows only online MMORPG on LINUX
[01:17] <obake-san> im having some problems installing ubuntu desktop (amd64 dual core), all i get when i install it from the cd and reboot is "Error loading operating system". if anybody can help me, pm me or something
[01:18] <benn92649> didnt work indy gave me an error code
[01:18] <con-man> benn92649: are you talking about WoW?
[01:18] <benn92649> no Guild Wars
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: then you n eed to enable the Wine repository
[01:18] <con-man> oic
[01:18] <toM|vendettA> jlgaddis: /dev/hdb /media/storage ext3 defaults 0 0
[01:18] <jonah1980_2> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook? is it simple enough and do you have to always keep reconfiguring/setting stuff up or will it work well?
[01:18] <MatrixMon> Benn: If your so sure of yourself maybe you should thinking about flying solo on this wine-flight
[01:18] <nexous> Anyone know how to install PCF Fonts?
[01:18] <jlgaddis> toM|vendettA: Change /dev/hdb to /dev/hdb1
[01:18] <benn92649> how do i do the wine repository
[01:18] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: http://www.winehq.com  and follow the instructions to install for Ubuntu under Downloads
[01:18] <con-man> benn92649: keep at it, you'll get it.  It took me 2 weeks to get WoW working
[01:18] <jlgaddis> toM|vendettA: If that doesn't work, run "/sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sdb" to get the right number for the partition.
[01:18] <eilker> anyone using xgl+kiba-dock plssssss ?
[01:19] <jvai> hey every1
[01:19] <_pirinto_> MatrixMon: Which release are you using? 6.06 or 6.10
[01:19] <GenNMX> Any Xorg gurus in here?  Macbooks rock you have power looks and alot more configureable options
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> MatrixMon: lol
[01:20] <benn92649> *thinkpad= less options
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> MatrixMon: KDE game pack has a battle ship game, its actually ok.
[01:20] <_pirinto_> MatrixMon: have you checked in /usr/share/sounds/login.wav
[01:20] <jvai> <-- thinkpad t40.. rocks
[01:20] <toM|vendettA> jlgaddis, is there a way to make it all read/writeable by default?
[01:20] <MatrixMon> I saw that, I have kde on my desktop
[01:21] <obake-san> anybody able to helpme install this correctly?
[01:21] <benn92649> ok now back to me, cause i want to install wine how do i enable the repositories for it?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> obake-san: install what?
[01:21] <obake-san> ubuntu
[01:21] <obake-san> desktop
[01:21] <obake-san> 64
[01:21] <posingaspopular> obake-san: whats the issue?
[01:21] <_pirinto_> MatrixMon: Sorry m8 I don't have KDE installed here
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: go to http://www.winehq.com click downloads click Ubuntu and it is clearly explained there
[01:21] <jlgaddis> toM|vendettA: Yeah, just set the right permissions on /media/storage like you would any other directory.
[01:21] <benn92649> GNOME RULES
[01:21] <MatrixMon> Benn: Try Synaptic
[01:21] <posingaspopular> benn92649: KDE ftw!
[01:21] <obake-san> when i try and boot the installation,i get "error loading operating system"
[01:22] <obake-san> could it be cause its dual core?
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> MatrixMon: its not in his repositories, he needs to add the repo apparentl
[01:22] <obake-san> could it be cause i have a bunch of other hdds?
[01:22] <MatrixMon> Pirinto: No I'm on a laptop with 6.6
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> It shoujld be in universal though
[01:22] <MatrixMon> Oh
[01:22] <madman_> hello
[01:22] <madman_> can someone help
[01:23] <madman_> i get this error opc failed probably the writer does not like the medium
[01:23] <MatrixMon> Pirinto: can I drag and drop?
[01:23] <nexous> Anyone know how to install PCF Fonts?
[01:24] <posingaspopular> !fonts
[01:24] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[01:25] <obake-san> anybody? help installing ubuntu?
[01:25] <benn92649> i got that but in the 3rd party thing I have to type a apt thingy
[01:25] <madman_> opc failed probably the writer does not like the medium
[01:25] <benn92649> Unbuntu rules
[01:25] <benn92649> it takes a while pop in the disk and it will wall you through the steps just know that the last part of it takes about 1/2 hours
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: did you add the wine repo?
[01:26] <benn92649> sorry no i still need the apt thing
[01:26] <ezra_> hello
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> the apt thing?... did you follow the instructions, theya re clearly written
[01:26] <paradizelost> howdy all, i'm trying to get vncserver to start gnome-session on startup, but it doesn't seem to do so, i've tried just gnome-session and exec gnome-session in ~/.vnc/xstartup, any ideas?
[01:26] <ezra_> hello i need help restoring my sessions
[01:27] <atlanta800> hey, I booted up my laptop and my wireless card just stopped working
[01:27] <ezra_> i am on failsafe gnome because the otherones downt work
[01:27] <_pirinto_> I tried to install mplayer recedntly on dapper from the repos. But it reports the package as broken or missing. Does anyone know an alternative way besides building it from source?
[01:27] <benn92649> LINUX hates wireless
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: how long have you had ubuntu?...
[01:27] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: You mean after you log in or at the loginscreen?
[01:27] <benn92649> i didnt see the directions sorry indy
[01:27] <benn92649> 3 days
[01:27] <madman_> opc failed probably the writer does not like the medium
[01:27] <gravemind> can linux read/write to other computers on the network without extra config-ing
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: sorry, i can't help with your eyesight
[01:27] <ezra_> log in screen
[01:27] <benn92649> lol
[01:27] <paradizelost> no, vnc, as in i do a vncserver -geometry 1024x768 and vncserver is started, but it doesn't run gnome-session
[01:28] <benn92649> please you Jedi Indy the force is truly stronger in you
[01:28] <paradizelost> but i get the grey background
[01:28] <atlanta800> wireless has been working perfectly fine for me for a good month now. I even had it working on my WPA2 ASK PSK network perfectly. But today itjust decided not to work
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> atlanta800: any upgrades?
[01:28] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: oh ok
[01:28] <atlanta800> well I upped to the suspend2 kernel, then back down to the stock kernel
[01:28] <gravemind> atlanta800: check everything else. does reboot fix it, does restarting the router fix it?
[01:29] <madman_> is there some better burning program than k3b
[01:29] <atlanta800> restarted several times
[01:29] <benn92649> i went to the cable it worked in live CD mode for me but on istall it gave me a hard time with the wireless
[01:29] <gravemind> darn
[01:29] <atlanta800> none of my apps even see the card
[01:29] <obake-san> anybody? help installing ubuntu?
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> atlanta800: hmm. i admit my familiarity with Wireless is minimal, but there's a lot of tutorials out there, maybe completely remove your wireless connection, and follow the FAQ's to set it up like new again?
[01:29] <juggernaut> obake-san, what do you need help with specifically?
[01:29] <paradizelost> ideas anyone?
[01:29] <atlanta800> except device manager see's it fine
[01:29] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[01:29] <madman_> help
[01:30] <SmileyLap> hi all, i upgraded to the 6.10 version of ubuntu, and now i only have "2" desktops to work with instead of the 4 i had before? Anyone tell me how to restore them ?
[01:30] <gravemind> atlanta800 does ifconfig see it?
[01:30] <atlanta800> I never set it up in the first case, it's and integrated card, Ubuntu recognized it automatically
[01:30] <ezra_> Hello Can anybody help me restore all my session to the default? I can only log on into fail safe gnome
[01:30] <gravemind> SmileyLap: right click on them
[01:30] <atlanta800> gravemind: nope
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> atlanta800: wow, you are incredibly lucky
[01:30] <ezra_> other ones dont work
[01:30] <_pirinto_> I tried to install mplayer recedntly on dapper from the repos. But it reports the package as broken or missing. Does anyone know an alternative way besides building it from source? Does any of you have mplayer installed on dapper?
[01:30] <gravemind> on the chooser
[01:30] <paradizelost> don't want VNC access to the console
[01:30] <paradizelost> i want access to a VNC session initiated by my user
[01:30] <obake-san> i need help installing ubuntu, i did the live cd and that worked fine. now im trying to install it to a hdd. it does it successfully, and then when i try and boot, it just says "error loading operating system"
[01:30] <paradizelost> with a crontab -e @reboot vncserver
[01:30] <atlanta800> yeah I just installed the NetworkManager applet and all worked fine
[01:30] <atlanta800> but now it can't see my card anymore
[01:31] <pingpongboss> holy crud, i just installed beryl
[01:31] <paradizelost> don't want what i do to be displayed on console
[01:31] <jlgaddis> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gdm_greeter/1322   =)
[01:31] <pingpongboss> lol
[01:31] <pingpongboss> bouncy windows ftw
[01:31] <jlgaddis> put my bike on your login screen =)
[01:31] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: now you lost me
[01:31] <pingpongboss> wow this thing is amazing o__o
[01:31] <juggernaut> obake-san, i've never encountered that before....except with xubuntu and the HD wasn't big enough to run the OS.
[01:31] <gravemind> atlanta800: open /etc/network/interfaces and see if you see your interface
[01:31] <obake-san> its a 80 gb harddrive
[01:31] <paradizelost> _pirinto_, the instructions you sent me are about enabling vnc access to GDM
[01:31] <juggernaut> hi all, i have a bit of an issue as well.....
[01:32] <linxeh> obake-san: might be a problem with not installing grub properly I guess
[01:32] <ubm> oh no thats how it starts
[01:32] <paradizelost> i have a crontab that starts vncserver in a vnc session rather than real X session
[01:32] <obake-san> ok
[01:32] <juggernaut> obake-san, maybe you should just try reinstalling it?  which version did you install?
[01:32] <linxeh> obake-san: or that the partition wasn't made active
[01:32] <ubm> juggernaut next thing you know X will not start ;)
[01:32] <kelsin> paradizelost: lookinto the x11vnc package
[01:32] <juggernaut> ha!  yeah
[01:32] <gravemind> can linux read/write to other computers on the network without extra config-ing
[01:32] <atlanta800> gravemind nothing at all in /etc/network/interfaces
[01:32] <kelsin> paradizelost: it starts a vnc server using the current session you're in
[01:33] <gravemind> atlanta800: that's not good
[01:33] <paradizelost> i have it installed
[01:33] <paradizelost> and working
[01:33] <paradizelost> but it doesn't run gnome-session
[01:33] <SmileyLap> roffle, that was toooo easdy :^_^
[01:33] <paradizelost> i've added gnome-session and exec gnome-session to ~/.vnc/xstartup
[01:33] <paradizelost> but it doesn't run
[01:33] <gravemind> atlanta800: that file tells ifconfig what network interfaces to use, and if it's empty... at least now you know one of the problems
[01:33] <paradizelost> i have to xterm -display :1 and then run gnome-session
[01:33] <jvai_> back
[01:34] <atlanta800> I might have found something, my card uses the ipw3945 module, and when I remove or add it, it gives me:  /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-11-generic
[01:34] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: so basically you want it to start an xsession whenever you request a VNC-session?
[01:34] <atlanta800> erm it gives me sh: /sbin/ipw3945d-2.6.17-11-generic: No such file or directory
[01:34] <paradizelost> no, the session is running there all the time, just not a console X session
[01:34] <dwi1> i try to access my new installed dvd drive and it says unable to mount
[01:34] <paradizelost> but i want it to auto-start gnome-session on the VNC session
[01:34] <paradizelost> i have gdm disabled
[01:34] <paradizelost> ie.e
[01:35] <Selaiah> Anyone running a Terratec Aureon Space/Universe on Ubuntu?
[01:35] <paradizelost> so there is no X running on a console
[01:35] <paradizelost> and i don't want one running
[01:35] <IndyGunFreak> not that i should be surprised, but the Vista Beryl theme is the ugliest thing iv'e ever seen
[01:35] <xamox> How can I add a smbfs mount to my fstab file? I tried //server_name/share    /home/user/mount_dir     smbfs      rw,user,auto  0   0  but no luck.
[01:35] <paradizelost> xamox, you need to have apt-get install smbfs first
[01:35] <paradizelost> then use cifs instead of smbfs in the fstab
[01:35] <_pirinto_> paradizelost: I'm sorry I don't think I can  help you, I just don't get what you're looking for. Good luck anyway
[01:35] <ubm> IndyGunFreak uh yeah im going to have to agree with you on that its horrible looking
[01:36] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: i'll have to send google admin an apology for searching it..lol
[01:36] <xamox> paradizelost, I did that, I have mounted it, just want it to mount everytime I boot
[01:36] <dwi1> i try to access my new installed dvd drive and it says unable to mount
[01:36] <ubm> IndyGunFreak right!!!
[01:36] <xamox> paradizelost, ahh, k, thx.
[01:36] <mikul> do someone knows how i could change my primary soundcard to be my primary, witout desable one or another? cant remember how i did... because now when i for example write out /proc/asound/cards they are in the wrong place...
[01:36] <paradizelost> xamox, do you require a username/password to log on to the samba server?
[01:36] <xamox> paradizelost, no
[01:37] <paradizelost> kk
[01:37] <kitche> mikul: you can do it though dmix
[01:37] <IndyGunFreak> ok, brb, i'm gonna boot to KDE and try Beryl there.
[01:37] <_pirinto_> I tried to install mplayer recedntly on dapper from the repos. But it reports the package as broken or missing. I've found several howto on the forums but I don't know which one is the way to go. Could somebody help me?
[01:37] <xamox> paradizelost, it is saying host name not found when using the cifs option
[01:37] <mikul> kitche, dmix?
[01:38] <ubm> xamox take a look here it will make your life less stressful when it comes to samba configuration http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Share_files_using_Samba
[01:38] <paradizelost> xamox, use the ip address instead of the hostname
[01:38] <mikul> kitche, cant find it
[01:38] <xamox> paradizelost, alright.
[01:38] <ttyfscker> i have several gtk+2 themes installed in ~/.themes and /usr/share/themes.   I am having a problem loading them though.  It seems that the only themes i can load are the ones in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines  How do i get the themes that don't have a theme engine for them to work??
[01:39] <dwi1> i try to access my new installed dvd drive and it says unable to mount
[01:39] <kitche> mikul: check gnomes volume control there should be an option it has to change sound cards
[01:39] <jrib> _pirinto_: pastebin the command you entered, the full error output, and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:39] <benn92649> ok im back and the website http://www.winehq.com/site/docs/wineusr-guide/index doesnt mention the repository thing and how to get it working
[01:39] <_pirinto_> jrib: alright brb
[01:39] <benn92649> it says i can just use my installer
[01:40] <juggernaut> so i set edgy up today on my new laptop (clean install) and got my broadcom wifi working smoothly.  after i didi the updates it found my wifi isn't working anymore and i'm stuck.  anyone have any ideas for help?  i had to boot into the windoze partition 'cause i don't have a way to connect to the net wired-like.  i can only use wifi for internet.
[01:40] <mikul> kitche, im running fluxbox, hate gnome :P so i would need to know witch file to edit
[01:40] <kitche> mikul: open up terminala nd type dmix should bring it up
[01:40] <mage> why are restricted modules put into a tmpfs?
[01:40] <benn92649> for 3 days now I have been doing everything from source LOL so if someone can tell me how to get the wine repository thing done I would be grateful
[01:41] <ubm> juggernaut what is the address for your broadcom wireless card eth1 or ath0?
[01:41] <benn92649> i know how to use it I just need to know where to find the Wine apt thing
[01:41] <dwi1> i try to access my new installed dvd drive and it says unable to mount
[01:41] <jrib> !wine | benn92649
[01:41] <ubotu> benn92649: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:41] <juggernaut> eth1
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: if you can read, the wine page i sent you to shows you how to do it.
[01:41] <juggernaut> ubm, eth1
[01:41] <IndyGunFreak> and it is extremely clear
[01:41] <mikul> kitche, no, dosent have it, and cant find with apt
[01:41] <ubm> juggernaut why dont you try madwifi ;)
[01:41] <juggernaut> ubm, what is that?
[01:41] <mage> !restricted modules
[01:41] <benn92649> check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy everything you need to know to get up and running is there
[01:41] <ubm> one sec ill send in pm
[01:41] <kitche> mikul: try this alsaconf in a terminal might let you select it does on some distros
[01:42] <aridese> what was that web-based radio streaming application? popsicle? icicle? it had a pretty interface
[01:42] <juggernaut> i'll have to download it on my windoze part and then copy it to my ext part..
[01:42] <juggernaut> ubm, what does madwifi do?
[01:42] <obake-san> ok
[01:42] <mikul> kitche, tried but i dosent have alsaconf either :D hehe
[01:42] <ubm> juggernaut http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/GettingMadwifi
[01:42] <xamox> paradizelost, IP worked, thx!
[01:42] <benn92649> ok I need to do the wine thing, and stop the whine thing who can tell me how to configure a repository for wine or how to locate it with the synpotic
[01:42] <obake-san> im installing ubuntu, it says to install GRUB to (hd0), whats that mean?
[01:43] <jrib> benn92649: have you read the page from ubotu?
[01:43] <obake-san> all of the hds seem to be labeled hda,hdb,etc
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: so in other worsd ,since you've been told at least 3x, you want someone to hold your hand
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: no he didn't
[01:43] <benn92649> GRUB is the core \kernel in linux i think
[01:43] <VSpike> I've got the situation where dragging a window round the screen causes CPU usage to spike to 100%, and video playback is choppy.  I'm sure I've had this before but I can't remember how I fixed it last time.  Any ideas?
[01:43] <mage> benn92649: check off all the available repositorys if you're too lazy ;)
[01:43] <jlgaddis> obake-san: hd0 just means the first one
[01:43] <jrib> benn92649: no, linux is the kernel in linux
[01:43] <mikul> kitche, is it in alsa-tools?
[01:44] <obake-san> so hd0 = hda
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> mage: he's to lazy to even click a link, i don't think there's any hope for hi
[01:44] <juggernaut> ubm, that's an atheros driver?  mine's broadcom
[01:44] <benn92649> oh so GRUB is the boot thing what is it called
[01:44] <kitche> mikul: it might be I m not use to the names that ubuntu uses for packages I m just use to seeing alsa
[01:44] <_pirinto_> jrib: Do I pm you with the sources.list contents?
[01:44] <juggernaut> ubm, i had it working before it updated.  now it's not working.
[01:44] <jrib> !paste | _pirinto_
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> how do I completely remove all KDE applications?
[01:44] <ubotu> _pirinto_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:44] <benn92649> i did the sudo thing and didnt work
[01:45] <mage> so nobody knows why restricted modules are in a tmpfs?
[01:45] <ubm> juggernaut http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[01:45] <_pirinto_> jribb: alright
[01:45] <grindar> has anyone configured aircrack for an intel card?
[01:45] <kitche> mage: they aren't on a tmpfs
[01:46] <ubm> juggernaught it supports most cards is yours integrated into your notebook?
[01:46] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: how did you install them?
[01:46] <grindar> yes, its the intel 2915
[01:46] <mage> lrm                   253M   18M  235M   8% /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/volatile
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: sudo apt-get install kde
[01:46] <benn92649> found winbind
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> but when i sudo apt-get remove kde... it only removed the KDE GUI left all the freakin programs.
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:47] <mage> kde-desktop maybe?
[01:47] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: remove a qt library and all your qt apps will be gone, like  'libqt3-mt'
[01:47] <ubm> juggernaut did you try bringing the interface back up? as in sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[01:47] <IndyGunFreak> mage: i don't think that will work... but i'll try
[01:47] <grindar> when I run airodump I get "unsupported hardware link type  803 - expected ARHRD_IEEE80211 or ARHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead..."
[01:47] <mage> jrib: that could still leave kde *-common packages
[01:48] <IndyGunFreak> i'll just re-install Ubuntu if I can't get this fixed..lol
[01:48] <dwi1> i try to access my new installed dvd drive and it says unable to mount
[01:48] <juggernaut> ubm, yes i did.  i also tried to scan and it said no scan result
[01:48] <benn92649> ok foundthe repositories for wine they are already loaded in the repository list, but I am still getting an error
[01:48] <jlgaddis> grindar: Trying to crack with Intel is a waste of time, they don't support reinjection.
[01:48] <juggernaut> but the wireless network is up, as i'm on it in windozeright now
[01:48] <jlgaddis> grindar: I went out and bought a WG511T for that, works perfect.
[01:48] <flake> I did a make install of apache2 in a folder within my home directory, moved it to trash then discovered I couldn't empty the trash because modules.o in my trash system is in use, probably by my system.  How can I get rid of it?
[01:48] <grindar> I know.
[01:48] <jrib> flake: use sudo
[01:48] <_pirinto_> jrib: here you go, my apt sources.list
[01:48] <_pirinto_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8021/
[01:49] <mage> flake: kill that apache process ;)
[01:49] <cables> I've been tweaking my touchpad's acceleration and things like that through synclient. How can I adjust the acceleration values of my USB mouse in a similar way?
[01:49] <flake> how do i list processes
[01:49] <benn92649> ok it says that the repository information cant be found because the link maybe bad or something
[01:49] <grindar> Kind of low on cash til next payday, so I'm just playing with packet capture and learning how to configure everything.
[01:49] <jrib> flake: ps
[01:49] <IndyGunFreak> someone explain to me why the hell i did that
[01:49] <juggernaut> ubm, it seems like the edgy update that i installed removed the firmware for the device.
[01:49] <jlgaddis> grindar: Interface needs to be in monitor mode, BTW.
[01:49] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: did what?
[01:49] <mage> IndyGunFreak: because you can
[01:49] <flake> a ps lists  bash and ps
[01:50] <D7x> is there an easy way to install all the server packages in regular ubuntu?
[01:50] <jrib> flake: ps -ef   will probably be more useful
[01:50] <mage> IndyGunFreak: or "whoops" depending
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: lol, but now i want it gone, and unfortunately, removing it isn't near as easy as adding it.
[01:50] <juggernaut> ubm, it shows the interface in networking but it just won'tdo anything with it, whereas it did before.  i really don't want to reinstall the thing again.
[01:50] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: did you try what I suggested?
[01:50] <mage> D7x: there might be a ubuntu-server metapackage
[01:50] <ubm> juggernaut you never have to reinstall
[01:50] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: btw, if you use aptitude to install it, it is easy to remove
[01:50] <ubm> juggernaut one sec im looking what is the chipset for your card?
[01:50] <xamox> why in my fstab when mounting a smbfs samba share, even though I'm specifying rw option for read/write it's only doing read only?
[01:50] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: well, i used Synaptic
[01:50] <KNY> does anyone know if mail-notification-evolution works when evolution is not open?
[01:50] <juggernaut> broadcom bcm43xx
[01:50] <caranthir> I tried making some changes to my gnome menus with alacarte but nothing has changed, what should I do?
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: it removed the KDE Gui, but it left all the other crap on there.
[01:51] <juggernaut> ubm, broadcom bcm43xx
[01:51] <mage> D7x: whats missing btw? I have my current server machine running ubuntu and didn't install a special version of anything
[01:51] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: you removed libqt3-mt?  What other stuff exactly?
[01:51] <alex_mayorga> hi there
[01:51] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: no, didn't remove that package, as i don't think i installed it when I installed kde
[01:51] <TheAngel> ok
[01:51] <alex_mayorga> any recommendation for a wifi manager with WPA support?
[01:51] <TheAngel> its like 2 in 1 ?
[01:51] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: remove it if you want all kde/qt stuff gone
[01:51] <TheAngel> and slow like hell :D
[01:51] <D7x> mage: I dunno, I just wanted to setup the a lamp server
[01:52] <mage> oh
[01:52] <grindar> I think it is, how do I check? I used iwconfig to kick it over to monitor
[01:52] <_pirinto_> jrib: and here's the output when I apt-get install mplayer http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8023/
[01:52] <grindar> how do I confirm?
[01:52] <jonah1980_2> benn92649, but aren't there issues with macbooks running really hot under linux and batter life is only about 4 hours, where the thinkpad is 8 or 9 and much lighterweight??
[01:52] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: so just apt-get remove libqt3-mt?
[01:52] <mage> D7x: libapache2-php or something similarly stupid, the rest is obvious to find in synaptic ;)
[01:52] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: yes
[01:52] <ubm> juggernaugt lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation
[01:52] <Ktron> Looking for suggestions for getting/making a working xorg.conf... dexconf doesn't work, Xorg -configure doesn't either, Ubuntu doesn't autodetect correctly...
[01:52] <gravemind> I'm having problems networking mac\linux
[01:53] <juggernaut> ubm, i'll have to reboot and then come back.
[01:53] <benn92649> ok back, so smarty pants i have the repositories for wine what is the next step?
[01:53] <juggernaut> ubm, brb
[01:53] <mage> Ktron: what hardware?
[01:53] <ubm> ok
[01:53] <foormea> hi. i've got a problem with torrent clients. ktorrent finds very few peers compared with utorrent...
[01:53] <gravemind> My mac sees linux, but can't write to it, and linux doesn't see anything
[01:53] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: if there were a way to kiss someone online, male or female, idon't care, id plant one on you right now.
[01:53] <mage> (lspci -> pastebin/google)
[01:54] <benn92649> well at least I have people to talk to
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> looks like its gonna uninstall kde-games, which is no big deal, i'll jsut reinstall that
[01:54] <jlgaddis> IndyGunFreak: apt-get remove `dpkg -l|grep kde|grep ^ii|awk '{ print $2 }'`
[01:54] <_pirinto_> the forums say to enable multiverse and do an sudo apt-get install mplayer. but I get that the package is missing or broken
[01:54] <jlgaddis> IndyGunFreak: That'd get rid of most of it.
[01:54] <jacksonemg> anyone know a good channel that helps with sound problems?
[01:54] <jlgaddis> IndyGunFreak: Oh, nevermind.
[01:54] <Ktron> mage, the minimum is Radeon x800 GT with a Samsung BF940
[01:54] <KNY> _pirinto_, apt-get install mplayer-nogui
[01:54] <IndyGunFreak> jlgaddis: ok, but i think the command jrib gave me seems to be doin the trick.. but i'll keep that one in mind
[01:54] <benn92649> sound is crap with LINUX
[01:55] <Ktron> mage, it's a PCI card, and it does have a second of the same monitor plugged in, but 1 monitor before 2heh
[01:55] <jacksonemg> yeah i agree
[01:55] <benn92649> its all generic drivers
[01:55] <jlgaddis> IndyGunFreak: It just removes any installed packages that have "kde" in their name.
[01:55] <jrib> _pirinto_: you are missing dapper multiverse
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: why do you use linux?
[01:55] <jlgaddis> IndyGunFreak: may or may not be what you want.
[01:55] <jacksonemg> i had sound working, then after a reboot it just stopped
[01:55] <bobbers> can anyone tell me if they got a WG311 working with 6.10 and if thy have if there are any tricks on how to get it working?  Even the drivers to modprobe or even how to determine what version of the WG311 I havewould be useful...
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> jlgaddis: ok.. appreciate the response.
[01:55] <nexous> How do I get Add/Remove programs icon back into my Main Menu?
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> but from te locks of terminal and what its removing, it looks like the command jrib gave is working
[01:55] <jlgaddis> bobbers: I have a WG511T that's Atheros-based, if that helps.
[01:56] <mage> heh, it was a pain in the ass to get Xorg to work with the DVI output of my radeon 9200se
[01:56] <bobbers> what driver do you use jlgaddis ?
[01:56] <jrib> nexous: is the gnome-app-install package installed?
[01:56] <jlgaddis> bobbers: madwifi
[01:56] <gravemind> jacksonemg: try going back to a previous kernel at boot, and see if that fixes it
[01:56] <bobbers> is there somewhere I can read how to get madwifi working?
[01:56] <nexous> jrib: it was there before, I was messing with my skins and menus, I'm not sure how it is gone now.
[01:56] <jacksonemg> i didnt change anything with the kernel
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: lol, that removed several programs i use regularly to...lol, but no big deal.. thanks alot..
[01:56] <nexous> actually hold on.
[01:56] <jacksonemg> X crashed
[01:57] <ubm> bobbers did you grab the latest build via svn checkout?
[01:57] <caranthir> anyone have any ideas why alacarte is having no effect on the menus in gnome?
[01:57] <mage> Ktron: probably need to install ati drivers for dual monitor (fglrx) but Driver "ati" should work, steal someones xorg.conf maybe? :)
[01:57] <jlgaddis> bobbers: Type "ubuntu madwifi" into Google.
[01:57] <JamesG> Does ubuntu have a built in pptp client? Or a package for this?
[01:57] <Ktron> mage, Yeah, the _only_ _reason_ I don't run linux is because I can never get X to play along with my card and monitor(s)
[01:57] <bobbers> ubm: nah I downloaded the 6.10 server release iso
[01:57] <bobbers> and burnt it
[01:57] <_pirinto_> jrib: Yeah? Crap how could I miss it, I'll check into it, thank you
[01:57] <flake> thanks, I removed some processes but sudo worked
[01:57] <nexous> It must have been removed when I was messing around with Firefox.
[01:57] <bobbers> ok jlgaddis will do that thanks
[01:57] <jrib> _pirinto_: yeah, notice you have dapper-backports multiverse but no dapper multiverse
[01:57] <mage> Ktron: not even knoppix works?
[01:57] <Ktron> mage, yeah, ignoring fglrx for now, I did try the driver "ati" I think and didn't get anywhere useful, and I've been looking for xorg.conf's to steal that seem like they should work with little to know success
[01:58] <benn92649> get 64, it will help you learn all about linux
[01:58] <ubm> bobbers make sure you read the compatibility trac if you already know its supported grap svn as in sudo apt-get install subversion then once you have done that svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi
[01:58] <_pirinto_> jrib: Yeah I saw it now... :(
[01:58] <gravemind> how do I find out my local ip?
[01:58] <mage> I used to boot knoppix to get a working xorg.conf ;)
[01:58] <Ktron> mage, well, it didn't work reliably on my other monitors, I'm downloading Knoppix 4.0.2 right now so I can try that
[01:58] <rbil> Krton: what ati card do u have?
[01:58] <mage> gravemind: /sbin/ifconfig will work
[01:58] <Ktron> mage, Yeah, that's about where I am
[01:59] <gravemind> mage: cool. does that work on mac too?
[01:59] <rbil> Ktron: what ati card do u have?
[01:59] <mage> gravemind: i dunno, find the terminal, try it and tell me
[01:59] <cables> gravemind, no need for /sbin, it should be in your path.
[01:59] <benn92649> ok so once again i got the repositorys for wine and the packets, now what do i type in Konsole to get it going?
[01:59] <bobbers> ubm: thanks but at the moment I have no working network (tomorrow I can try and get the eth0 working so I can talk through that to the world)
[01:59] <Ktron> rbil, Radeon x800 GT
[01:59] <gravemind> mage, cables, ok
[01:59] <ubm> bobbers when you have the latest build on your machine ./configure then sudo make make install reboot then iwconfig ath0 up iwconfig essid myap then iwconfig enc 'yourkey' after it comes up dhclient ath0
[02:00] <ubm> if your using wpa you need wpa supplicant
[02:00] <IndyGunFreak> brb
[02:00] <benn92649> the greatest guide to Ubuntu on the internet ever! http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[02:00] <ubuntu_> anyone familair with roundcubemail
[02:00] <jlgaddis> ubm: Why not use NetworkManager?
[02:00] <ubuntu_> ?
[02:01] <ubm> jlgaddis you can i prefer using terminal incase you ever need it its best to learn that before you come dependent on NetworkManager :)
[02:01] <ttyfscker> can someone here find out what package has the "swift" font in it?
[02:01] <mage> ttyfscker: packages.ubuntu.org just wont do it?
[02:02] <benn92649> i wish LINUX had 7.1 surround sound support
[02:02] <Selaiah> It does not? (Was gonna get a 7.1 card)
[02:02] <eudy> hola necesito ayuda acabo de instalar ubunto
[02:02] <jrib> !es | eudy
[02:02] <ubotu> eudy: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <jacksonemg> anyone know why sound would just cut out after X crashes?
[02:02] <benn92649> cool thing is if you dont find something in linux one of the guru devs can make you a patch
[02:02] <Selaiah> Like M-audio revolution 7.1 or terratec aureon 7.1
[02:02] <mage> how common is 7.1 anything these days?
[02:02] <L0cKd0wN> hey can i have a box im not using with two HDs in it, can i move another box's 2 x HDs into it (swap them out) and expect Ubuntu to boot up normally without complication?
[02:02] <benn92649> I love devs
[02:03] <L0cKd0wN> hey i have*
[02:03] <L0cKd0wN> -can
[02:03] <bobbers> ubm: before I start down that road is there a way I can confirm that my WG311 uses the madwifi drivers (or is that true for all versions)?
[02:03] <ttyfscker> mage:: i haven't tried that
[02:03] <benn92649> Linux 64has a program called wifiradar have you installed that
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> L0cKd0wN: i doubt it... but you might get lucky
[02:03] <mage> L0cKd0wN: same number of network cards? probably just trouble with xorg
[02:04] <apt-get> fear not!  I am here!
[02:04] <ubm> jacksonemg what does your log say? /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> why won't it just start up?
[02:04] <bruenig> aptitude is better
[02:04] <grindar> anyone recommend a fairly cheap card to use with aircrack?
[02:04] <cables> apt-get, I prefer aptitude :)
[02:04] <benn92649> apt get tell me how to get wine installed
[02:04] <cables> benn92649, sudo aptitude install wine
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> L0cKd0wN: if you were to do the same thing with Windows.. would it just "start up".. of course not
[02:04] <mage> L0cKd0wN: it'll start, video card wouldn't work
[02:04] <benn92649> on gnome?
[02:04] <ubm> bobbers yes check here http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> hmmm
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> so some are saying yes
[02:04] <mage> heh windows is a 50% chance of mobo drivers being incompatible -> bsod
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> some no
[02:04] <L0cKd0wN> lol
[02:04] <apt-get> benn92649, you must frist add the repos... then call on me to install it!
[02:05] <aridese> how do i view opened sockets on my system?
[02:05] <gravemind> mage, ifconfig works on mac, but the ip is a little harder to find :)
[02:05] <cables> benn92649, it should be in universe.
[02:05] <mage> L0cKd0wN: dpkg-reconfigure xorg <-- something like that will need to be ran
[02:05] <benn92649> i did install the repos
[02:05] <cables> !info wine
[02:05] <rhican> aridese, netstat -tan
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> L0cKd0wN: no, i agree with mage, it will work.. but its gonna require some work on your part,
[02:05] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[02:05] <mage> gravemind: ah, coolbeans
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> it might be easier to just new install.
[02:05] <mage> ewwww
[02:05] <mage> noooo
[02:05] <L0cKd0wN> yea well the server i have is 600mhz, i have a 2.7ghz given by a friend, i want to move the server HD's into that to be Faster
[02:05] <aridese> rhican: ty
[02:05] <noO1> My Ubuntu 6.06 froze on me... I tried to restart gnome with ctrl-alt-backspace and got a screen of colors -- then I shut the power down because there were no other options.  When I turned it back on I got an error "no operating system found".  I'm in a live CD now and my home directory looks ok.  Does anyone know what I can do to get the computer to find the OS again?
[02:05] <cables> benn92649, run "sudo aptitude install wine"
[02:05] <rbil> L0cKd0wN: I've moved hard drives from one box to another that used a different chipset entirely and other than adjusting xorg.conf, all worked fine
[02:05] <benn92649> k
[02:05] <mage> IndyGunFreak: bad windows user, BAD
[02:05] <bruenig> apt-get, I hope your client doesn't have notifiers when someone says your nick or you will get really annoyed
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:05] <gravemind> mage, the current problem is when I try to put files from mac into linux over the network, it says insufficient priveleges
[02:05] <eudy> hello
[02:05] <L0cKd0wN> rbil: thats encouraging :)
[02:05] <ubm> benn92649 gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:05] <jacksonemg> ubm: nothing really tells me about any errors, what should i look for?
[02:06] <rhican> aridese, that command will show tcp connection (the ones you probably want to seed) udp is netstat -uan ..
[02:06] <eudy> como entro a ubunto en espaol
[02:06] <apt-get> brue if it was not in VMware
[02:06] <Evil_`> hm, I can't upgrade to ubuntu 6.10, from 6.06, i get this error:  Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/warty/java/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[02:06] <L0cKd0wN> IndyGunFreak: ok well im prepared to work, i have data on the first drive though, so i can't do a fresh install, it'll delete them
[02:06] <ubm>  benn92649 add this # Repository for wine
[02:06] <ubm> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main deb-src http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt edgy main
[02:06] <L0cKd0wN> IndyGunFreak: and it's like 75gb+ of user data
[02:06] <benn92649> I get this message: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:06] <benn92649> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:06] <benn92649> Reading package lists... Done
[02:06] <benn92649> Building dependency tree
[02:06] <benn92649> Reading state information... Done
[02:06] <benn92649> Reading extended state information
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> L0cKd0wN: i'd make sure you have all your important data backed up
[02:06] <bobbers> ubm: thanks, it says that rev2 and rev3 are not compatable.  On ubuntu cat /proc/pci is no longer my friend (Ihave been away for a long time from linux), do you know how I can determine which version I have?
[02:06] <benn92649> Initializing package states... Done
[02:06] <benn92649> Building tag database... Done
[02:06] <eudy> ayuda
[02:06] <benn92649> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:06] <benn92649> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:07] <benn92649> opps
[02:07] <Evil_`> eudy - #ubuntu-es
[02:07] <bruenig> benn92649, close synaptic and don't paste
[02:07] <benn92649> sorry thats what comes up
[02:07] <L0cKd0wN> IndyGunFreak: :S
[02:07] <benn92649> K
[02:07] <noO1> Dead computer -- "no operating system found" -- does anyone know if this can be fixed?  I don't think that it's the hard drive... something with the OS
[02:07] <ubm> benn92649 gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 you need to run this in terminal to import the key gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:07] <Evil_`> hm, I can't upgrade to ubuntu 6.10, from 6.06, i get this error:  Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/warty/java/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found
[02:08] <Evil_`> anyone know what's wrong?
[02:08] <bruenig> !repeat
[02:08] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:08] <benn92649> hey ubm the whole thing
[02:08] <cables> !grub | no01
[02:08] <ubotu> no01: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:08] <noO1> I'm not ever sure where to begin troubleshooting "no operating system found"
[02:08] <cables> !grub > no01
[02:08] <L0cKd0wN> rbil: so you think this is possible? i can't really afford to do a backup... i have no where for the data to go :S
[02:08] <noO1> cables: would a problem with grub cause that error? (no os found)
[02:08] <eudy> no me aparece en mi lista de servidores (sorry I'm new)
[02:09] <cables> no01, my guess is your bios isn't finding grub
[02:09] <benn92649> ubm it didnt like  that
[02:09] <cables> no01, it's worth a shot
[02:09] <benn92649> i got this ubm $ keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 you need to run this in terminal to import the key gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:09] <benn92649> bash: keyserver: command not found
[02:09] <benn92649> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[02:09] <noO1> cables: thanks... is there a way to copy a new grub into my computer and start from scracth or does it involve a lot of troubleshooting (conference call in 20 minutes)
[02:10] <cables> noO1, I've been using a 0 not an O in your name, sorry...
[02:10] <noO1> cables: that's ok, I see the messages
[02:10] <cables> noO1, I'm not sure... I just got ubotu to tell you about grub... I don't have experience with this kind of problem.
[02:10] <rbil> L0cKd0wN: I can only relate my experience. I had no probs. Just make sure that first drive is indeed first drive and second is second. Your mileage may vary, but like I said, I had no problem doing do. Mobo was completely different .. different sound system, etc. You'll need to adjust xorg.conf settings if the graphics card is different.
[02:10] <noO1> cables: ok, thanks
[02:10] <benn92649> do i need the repositorys first then add the key thing after
[02:10] <ubm> benn92649 first this       gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: YES
[02:10] <benn92649> or vice versa
[02:11] <L0cKd0wN> rbil: ok thanks for the input, i guess i'll give it a go and see what happens :)
[02:11] <ubm> ben92649 then this gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263 | sudo apt-key add -
[02:11] <ubm> ben92649 did you add the sources to repo?
[02:11] <rbil> L0cKd0wN: assuming it isn't some kind of dual boot machine, as Windoze won't like it too much.
[02:11] <noO1> Does anyone have experience with grub -- I'm getting an error "no operating system found" and I can't boot my computer (except with this live CD)
[02:11] <mage> hmm rbil is saying what I di ;)
[02:12] <benn92649> ok so now we are getting some where/do mean to paste but i dont know what any of this means: gpg: directory `/home/benn92647/.gnupg' created
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: new configuration file `/home/benn92647/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: WARNING: options in `/home/benn92647/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active during this run
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: keyring `/home/benn92647/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: keyring `/home/benn92647/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: requesting key 387EE263 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: /home/benn92647/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
[02:12] <kitche> noO1: means you don't have grub installed
[02:12] <cables> !flood | ben42
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: key 387EE263: public key "Scott Ritchie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>imported
[02:12] <ubotu> ben42: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <mage> noO1: is that a grub error or a bios error
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[02:12] <benn92649> gpg:               imported: 1
[02:12] <cables> !paste | benn92649
[02:12] <ubotu> benn92649: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <benn92649> sorry i dont know what it means
[02:12] <ubm> bobbers what card do you have
[02:12] <kitche> mage it's a bios error means it can't find a boot loader in MBR
[02:12] <mage> !paste | mage (just being a dick)
[02:12] <ubotu> mage (just being a dick): pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:12] <benn92649> i dont know what your saying about bin
[02:12] <noO1> kitche: I see files in my /boot/grub/ directory ...  menu.lst looks ok... Do you know a way to troubleshoot this problem?
[02:13] <cables> !paste | benn92649
[02:13] <ubotu> benn92649: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:13] <benn92649> i wont paste anymore
[02:13] <jacksonemg> what log can i check to see what errors occur when trying to load sound?
[02:13] <cables> benn92649, just use the pastebin link.
[02:13] <ubm> ben92649 go here and follow the instructions http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Windows_Applications_in_Linux_.28Wine.29
[02:13] <kitche> benn92649: use a pastebin to paste pastbin.com pastebin.ca one of those sites then paste the link from that site here
[02:13] <karsten> jacksonemg: /var/log/messages, /var/log/kern.log, dmesg
[02:13] <kitche> noO1: umm install grub to mbr you probably installed it someplace else
[02:13] <mage> noO1: I usually look at the gentoo install guide for installing grub, but you need to install grub to the mbr not just files on a partition
[02:13] <jacksonemg> karsten: thanks
[02:13] <bobbers> ubm: its a WG311. I prolly shouldn't say this on here, but I rebooted into an old gentoo install and a quick check of /proc/pci tells me that I do have a rev 1 WG311 so tomorrow I will get the wired ehternet interface up and try getting madwifi :)  Thanks for all your help
[02:13] <Palmnet> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew about some issues with ubuntu/xgl/beryl?
[02:14] <eudy> hola cual es el canal de ubunto en espaol
[02:14] <benn92649> LOL! thats the palce i started it didnt work those address are out of date or something
[02:14] <cables> !beryl | Palmnet
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> Palmnet: if you hae an ATI card, tere could be a host of them
[02:14] <ubotu> Palmnet: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:14] <mage> Palmnet: theres lots of them, its new ;)
[02:14] <bobbers> seems strange that /proc/pci isn't there on ubuntu, would be lovely to know how to get that same info in ubuntu
[02:14] <cables> Palmnet, go to #ubuntu-effects or #beryl for help with that.
[02:14] <ubm> bobbers madiwif will work with your card
[02:14] <xamox> How do I remove a user from a group? I know how to add, but now I want to remove them
[02:14] <Palmnet> I have xgl/beryl, and it was working fine on my intel card...til last week when I got an update, now its dead?
[02:14] <bobbers> ubm: yeah I saw that from the list I just wanted to confirm that I had a rev 1 as that page you linked said that if I had a rev 2 or 3 it wouldn't
[02:14] <noO1> mage, kitche: the system was working fine -- then it crashed.  Then wouldn't reboot.  something got corrupted :S
[02:14] <mage> xamox: manually edit /etc/groups if nobody has a better idea
[02:15] <bobbers> but gentoo has told me that I have a rev 1 so I know I am good to go now
[02:15] <kitche> noO1: probably grub reinstall grub
[02:15] <Palmnet> Saw a post on slashdot mentioning it might be from the update or something? I take it that its not a widespread issue then?
[02:15] <bobbers> just would be nice to know how to get the same info from a ubuntu install :)
[02:15] <mage> noO1: fsck the drives partitions as well
[02:15] <benn92649> this is what i get now: No candidate version found for wine
[02:15] <xamox> mage, alright, thx
[02:15] <cefx> dumb question: what's the j2re for ubuntu package name?
[02:16] <rbil> Palmnet: what did u update, beryl?
[02:16] <mage> xamox: group changes only apply when they log in next just sos ya know
[02:16] <Palmnet> I dont know, the ubuntu auto-update thing just did its usual, and I trusted it to do whatever it needed
[02:16] <cables> !java | cefx
[02:16] <ubotu> cefx: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:16] <Palmnet> I just updated again today, same issue though
[02:16] <ubm> bobbers can you cat /proc/modules
[02:16] <jacksonemg> if logs don't say anything, and everything appears to be working, but no sound is coming out - what can i check?
[02:16] <cefx> aha
[02:16] <cefx> thanks
[02:17] <bobbers> ubm: will try that one sec
[02:17] <benn92649> can i just start the process over and will linux fill in whatever is missing?
[02:17] <kitche> jacksonemg: the volume manager
[02:17] <noO1> mage: do I just do # fsck ?  I'm in a live CD with my hard drive mounted on /media/sda1
[02:17] <japers> hello there. I am in approximately hour 4 of the great windows -> ubuntu shift. but i think i have managed to destroy synaptic package manager
[02:17] <kitche> jacksonemg: you might have something low or muted that your sound card needs to play sound
[02:17] <cefx> thanks cables, much love
[02:17] <cables> japers, how did you do that?
[02:17] <cables> cefx, no problem
[02:17] <shatrat> jacksonemg, or look in alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted and the volumes are turned up
[02:17] <cefx> cables: is there a bot page for updating the kernel?
[02:17] <cables> !botsnack
[02:17] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:17] <cefx> just the kernel
[02:17] <jacksonemg> all the volume is turned up and max
[02:17] <benn92649> BRB
[02:17] <cables> !kernel | cefx
[02:17] <ubotu> cefx: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:17] <cefx> ahah
[02:17] <Palmnet> Anybody know where to look for logs from that update manager, to see what it updated to break beryl?
[02:17] <mage> noO1: unmount it and fskc /dev/whatever (scrolled off)
[02:17] <jacksonemg> what happened was i was play quake3, it crashed, along with X, and now no sound plays
[02:17] <cefx> great!
[02:18] <mage> fsck /dev/sda1
[02:18] <cables> cefx, hmm... you should use the one built into Ubuntu though.
[02:18] <japers> @cables, no idea, but it gives me erros everytime i try to use it,so io cant actualy use it to get software
[02:18] <cables> japers, what errors?
[02:18] <noO1> mage: ok... thanks.. as root?
[02:18] <mage> aye aye
[02:18] <japers> @cables "E: Malformed line 38 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[02:18] <japers> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[02:18] <japers> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem."
[02:18] <cefx> cables: Do you see any problem with making a custom one for a LAMP server?  I'm not convinced that ubuntu server is 100% secure, and would feel safer recompiling the kernel, etc on my own.
[02:18] <noO1> rhanks
[02:18] <noO1> thanks
[02:18] <mage> np
[02:18] <cables> cefx, if you're confident you can do it right.
[02:18] <cefx> cables: and if the case is to better use a distro like gentoo or freebsd?
[02:18] <cefx> alright, great
[02:19] <cables> japers, did you change /etc/apt/sources.list at all?
[02:19] <cefx> I've done gentoo before
[02:19] <cefx> and freebsd
[02:19] <mage> i'd say security problems wont be in the kernel
[02:19] <cefx> should be no prob :0
[02:19] <cables> cefx, you're way more experienced than me, then.
[02:19] <cefx> mage: true.
[02:19] <japers> cables. i have no idea what that means. so its possible
[02:19] <cefx> cables: ahh heh.
[02:19] <thedj> hi. i have a problem with libqt4-dev in edgy
[02:19] <Optix`Pro> wow
[02:19] <Optix`Pro> :D
[02:19] <cables> japers, what have you done so far to install things?
[02:19] <cefx> japers: it's the list that apt-get uses to look for those packages you want to install.
[02:20] <thedj> this should be version 4.2.0, but when i try to compile a qt-4.2.0 specific function, i doesn't work
[02:20] <jacksonemg> anyone know why sound would stop working? what channel could i try to ask help in?
[02:20] <cables> japers, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please.
[02:20] <mage> cefx: ubuntu init might assume having to modprobe lots of things
[02:20] <noO1> mage: does fsck repair the drive without telling me what it's doing?  It just says "clean"
[02:20] <cables> !paste | japers
[02:20] <ubotu> japers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:20] <japers> i tried to install beryl
[02:20] <cables> japers, that might be it. Did you make a backup of your sources list?
[02:20] <cefx> mage: yeah, I'm thinking I'm just going to go with a hardened version of gentoo
[02:20] <mage> noO1: if its clean its clean, if it wasn't it woulda taken a few minutes and told you so
[02:20] <Optix`Pro> Mil0sh
[02:20] <Optix`Pro> pitjko:)
[02:20] <Optix`Pro> :PP
[02:21] <mage> noO1: its possible that the livecd did it for you when booting
[02:21] <xamox> I think I made a boo boo, I accidentally added my main user to group root, now when I try to do sudo it won't work and when I try to edit root files I can't because they dont' have group perms, how can I remove that user from the root group?
[02:21] <japers> cabels: how do i find it to paste it?
[02:21] <cables> japers, do alt-f2, then "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[02:21] <cables> !paste > japers
[02:21] <noO1> mage: possible that it fixed the drive for me?
[02:22] <mage> yea
[02:22] <mage> well if the drive is broken its broken, but it can fix whats on the drive
[02:22] <noO1> mage: thanks... I will try rebooting back into my hard drive ... brb
[02:22] <MM24> Ok, I need help. I have tried to install the drivers for the ATI X1600 atleast 10 times, its always broken.
[02:22] <japers> cables :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8027/
[02:22] <noO1> mage: I doubt hard drive is broken.... I think it's software
[02:22] <japers> is this what you wanted me to do?
[02:23] <noO1> brb
[02:23] <cables> japers, yep.
[02:23] <Optix`Pro> kurac!
[02:23] <Optix`Pro> puste kurac!!
[02:23] <Optix`Pro> swiii!!
[02:23] <Optix`Pro> ocete malo da mi gadudlate?
[02:23] <cables> japers, how far did you get in the beryl installation? Did you install any packages yet?
[02:23] <Optix`Pro> paLindr0me
[02:24] <Optix`Pro> qcko
[02:24] <cables> !spam | Optix`Pro
[02:24] <ubotu> Optix`Pro: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[02:24] <aleutian> I'm currently using Ubuntu 6.10 on my desktop and am planning to buy a Thinkpad T60 within the next month.  My only concern is that the 1400x1050 resolution will make text/icons difficult to read and I have no way of knowing what to expect without purchasing the laptop and installing.  Should I be concerned with running Ubuntu at this resolution on a laptop?  If anyone has personal experiences running Ubuntu on a laptop at or close to this resolution I
[02:24] <aleutian> would be very interested in your feedback.  Thanks!
[02:24] <xamox> does su have a default password in Ubuntu?
[02:24] <paLindr0me> What`s ur problem Optix`Pro
[02:24] <paLindr0me> ?!
[02:24] <Ktron> Alright, be back everyone, time for another shot in the dark with the livecd to see if I can't get Xorg un and chugging
[02:24] <pavs2> where is .bashrc located
[02:24] <Optix`Pro> kurac kurac kurac kurac
[02:24] <cables> xamox, there's no root account in Ubuntu.
[02:24] <cables> !ops
[02:24] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:24] <Optix`Pro> kurac kurac kurac pustie mi kurac
[02:24] <kitche2> pavs2: in your /home folder
[02:24] <japers> cables: nope, it kept saying bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[02:24] <cables> !root | xamox
[02:24] <ubotu> xamox: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:24] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:24] <cefx> aleutian: no.
[02:25] <japers> cables when i tried "sudo echo -e "\n## Beryl repository\ndeb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main"
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> pustie mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> pustie mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> pustie mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> pustie mi kurac
[02:25] <xamox> cables, Yeah, when I run su it prompts for a pword, I added myself to the root group now I can't run sudo, so I can't even do sudo -s
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> pickeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:25] <cables> !ops
[02:25] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:25] <cefx> xamox: admin group...?
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:25] <rbil> Palmnet: is this your problem? ... http://<IP_ADDRESS>/infowiki/doku.php?id=en_us:computer:software:linux:beryl:whitecubebug
[02:25] <Optix`Pro> puste mi kurac
[02:26] <IndyGunFreak> nalioth: you get op of the year for that one..lol
[02:26] <xamox> cefx, huh?
[02:26] <cefx> on kubuntu, the group we have for sudo is 'admin'
[02:26] <jeeves__> can anyone here give me a hand getting my DVD player to work?
[02:26] <mage> xamox: you sure you didn't break something else as well? ;)
[02:27] <japers> cables: i followed the installing beryl install guide as best i could. but becasue i have a geforce 4  i could use the autop script so had to try and understand what it was asking me to do.
[02:27] <xamox> mage, don't think so
[02:27] <mage> jeeves__: you probably just need a decss thing
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> !dvd | DVD
[02:27] <ubotu> DVD: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:27] <neo_> hello
[02:27] <xamox> mage, I added myself to root group
[02:27] <gravemind> is libdvdcss2 illegal?
[02:27] <cables> japers, remove the last bit from that file (the nVidia bit.) To edit the file, you need to do this: alt-f2, then gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <xamox> mage, now sudo doesn't work for my normal user
[02:27] <jeeves__> ubotu:  thanks.
[02:27] <Palmnet> rbil: It used to work fine, had done for about 3-4 weeks. Then I got an update and it loads like normal til the gnome menu bars at top and bottom show, then the wallpaper shows up as a light blue, and then the whole screen goes white with just a mouse. Cant move, rotate...anything
[02:27] <japers> cables: this linux terminal thing is all new and slightly confusing
[02:27] <cables> gravemind, in some countries
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <xamox> don't have any other users on the system
[02:27] <jose__> OI pessoal
[02:27] <mage> xamox: whats the exact error from sudo
[02:27] <cables> japers, that's not the terminal I'm telling you to use.
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> pusiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:27] <gravemind> cables: including USA prolly
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[02:27] <cables> !ops
[02:27] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[02:27] <xamox> mage, no error
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> malooooooooooo
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> kuraccccccccccccccc
[02:27] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: tecnically
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[02:27] <xamox> mage, just doesn't work
[02:27] <rbil> Palmnet, ok it's a bug. read that url
[02:27] <Optix`Pro> osim
[02:27] <cables> gravemind, yep, including the us
[02:28] <Optix`Pro> mog druga milosa..
[02:28] <mage> so sudo echo hi does nothing?
[02:28] <xamox> mage, try sudo vim /etc/group, doesn't do anything
[02:28] <xamox> no
[02:28] <cefx> sudo is installed?
[02:28] <xamox> mage, doesn't prompt for pword, nothing
[02:28] <xamox> yeah it was
[02:28] <xamox> everything was working fine till I added myself to that group
[02:28] <xamox> Was mounting samba shares
[02:28] <cables> japers, I have to go now, sorry...
[02:28] <mage> interesting
[02:29] <xamox> mounting are root, figured I'd just add myself to that group and messed it up
[02:29] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: where do you live?
[02:29] <japers> cables: your a legend. it's people like you that make the shift easy
[02:29] <cables> japers, after you remove the nvidia bit, do the command "sudo aptitude update" and try again.
[02:29] <japers> cables it works now
[02:29] <jose__> brasil
[02:29] <mage> xamox: did you remove yourself from /etc/group's root line and relogin?
[02:29] <Palmnet> Ahh, cheers rbil
[02:29] <cables> japers, cool
[02:29] <japers> cables, thanks so much
[02:29] <xamox> mage, can't, it doesn't have group write perms
[02:29] <xamox> mage, haha
[02:29] <cables> japers, no problem. I expect in a few months you'll be good enough at this to help out here.
[02:29] <ctkroeker> anyone have any luck with the "sound blaster live 24-bit" or "Crystal" or VIA HD-Audio VT82***?
[02:29] <Palmnet> Does the software updater thing keep logs anywhere though? Cant find them in the system logs app?
[02:29] <xamox> mage, I'll probably ahve to boot off live cd and fix it
[02:29] <japers> cables and i certainly will if i can
[02:29] <nalioth> cables: why wait? i suspect you can help now
[02:30] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: USA
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: then yes, libdvdcss2 is illegal.
[02:30] <gaspipe1> hey people
[02:30] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: but you own the DVD, so you should be allowed to watch it,
[02:30] <mikeal> i need help with an odd screen resolution problem, I edited xorg.cong to get my resolution set to 1440x900, and it works, except that Ubuntu/Gnome still thinks the resolution is 1280x800, so I can see on the entire screen, but the window and font sizes are all still 1280x800, when i pull up System->Screen Resolution I can only setit ot 1280x800
[02:30] <we2by> hi
[02:30] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: is that lib necessary for watching the DVD???
[02:30] <dougsko> why are there two sets of fonts? the ones xfontsel shows and the ones that fc-list shows are different
[02:31] <we2by> what's the net released of ubuntu called? and what's new in it?
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: yes.. its what de-encrypts the disk, so it can be read and played
[02:31] <mage> mikeal: what does xrandr say?
[02:31] <gravemind> mikeal: you need a modeline
[02:31] <gravemind> mikeal: google "modeline generator"
[02:31] <benn92649> OK im done with that, it has a hack tha tsometimes works if you have the 64X build but the amount of knowledge you have to posses is beyond my n00b azz
[02:31] <mage> mikeal: just the line with a star will do
[02:31] <mikeal> xrandr still says 1280x800
[02:31] <IndyGunFreak> a modeline?
[02:32] <mptech> would an experienced user here say that feisty fawn is either more or less stable than Debian Unstable?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> hmm
[02:32] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: I had this problem with the same resolution
[02:32] <timfrost> xamox, you can reboot into recovery mode, and edit /etc/group in that mode
[02:32] <gravemind> mikeal: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[02:32] <kitche> mptech: don't know but debian unstable is old feisty is actually paste debian unstable
[02:32] <mikeal> i did that with gtf
[02:32] <we2by> !latest
[02:32] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:32] <mage> mptech: depends whos doing more work in a particular week
[02:33] <lycangodofwar> whats the best desktop kde,gnome,fluxbox,? or ...
[02:33] <lycangodofwar> i'm a newb :D
[02:33] <mikeal> where do I put that line in xorg.confg?
[02:33] <mikeal> er xorg.conf?
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: whats the fear of installing libdvdcss2?
[02:33] <mikeal> I have it in the Monitor section already
[02:34] <lycangodofwar> can someone tell me whats easier kde gnome or fluxbox
[02:34] <mptech> lycangodofwar, I personally prefer gnome or xfce
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> lycangodofwar: KDE/Gnome are pretty similar.. Flux is a little more difficult till you get the nang of it, i prefer Gnome
[02:34] <benn92649> i here KDE is alot easier but I like Gnome
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: i wouldn't say its easier.. its uglier, i'll tell you that
[02:34] <kitche> lycangodofwar: gnome, kde is the best if you want easy kde is more windows like while gnome is well gnome lol
[02:35] <ardchoille> lycangodofwar: My 8 year old neice uses gnome
[02:35] <d00by> can anybody help me set up my scanner if it is a networked scanner
[02:35] <blindraven> Question, I just installed Ubuntu ultimate 2.6.17-11-generic)
[02:35] <benn92649> i decided to wait for LINUX to come out with support in the X64 for wine.
[02:35] <ctkroeker> anyone have any luck with the "sound blaster live 24-bit" or "Crystal" or VIA HD-Audio VT82***?
[02:35] <jacksonemg> if i'm not getting any sound output, and everything says its working (not muted), and no error messages in the system log - what are some things i could try?
[02:35] <blindraven> Question, I just installed Ubuntu ultimate 2.6.17-11-generic) and the nvidia drivers from automatix just crash me now, but rhwy worked before.. any ideas?
[02:35] <juggernaut> ubm, you there?
[02:36] <mage> try a different version for them drivers?
[02:36] <we2by> what's the net released of ubuntu called? and what's new in it?
[02:36] <ardchoille> !automatix | blindraven
[02:36] <d00by> can anybody help me set up my scanner if it is a networked scanner
[02:36] <ubotu> blindraven: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:36] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: I haven't needed to use it yet
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> we2by: Edgy Eft..  its got plenty of updates
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: use what?
[02:36] <benn92649> sooo, i have no games cant watch videos and the sound quality from juicer sucks LOL
[02:36] <jacksonemg> mage: i just had sound output, then after a reboot, they were gone
[02:36] <juggernaut> IndyGunFreak, i just put edgy on my new lappy today.  it f'in rocks!!
[02:36] <mage> heh 6.10 has 137 updates from the CD to current
[02:36] <benn92649> but I got you guys so I guess its ok
[02:37] <mptech> !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu
[02:37] <we2by> IndyGunFreak, I meant the latest beta release or the upcoming release
[02:37] <cables> we2by, IndyGunFreak, Edgy is the current version. The next version is Feisty Fawn. It's got tons of new stuff
[02:37] <gregday> where can i get Feisty testing snapshots?
[02:37] <mptech> !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu
[02:37] <cables> !feisty | gregday
[02:37] <ubotu> gregday: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[02:37] <d00by> can anybody help me set up my scanner if it is a networked scanner
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> we2by: that would be feisty
[02:37] <we2by> cables, stuff like what?
[02:37] <mykk> hey i am installing ubuntu and i am checking cd integrity, it says it will take some time, i have been waiting here for 15 mins now and nothing has happened... is that right?
[02:37] <craigbass1976> what's the newest kernel for dapper, 2.15...?
[02:37] <cables> we2by, I believe it installs codecs for you, and it's supposed to have some cool desktop effects. Not entirely sure though.
[02:37] <gregday> cables: that doesn't really answer my question
[02:37] <blindraven> !automatix
[02:37] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:37] <benn92649> will the new version have built in support for windows apps instead of having to install a seperate program?
[02:38] <bruenig> benn92649, no
[02:38] <ubm> mykk your cd is fine man you can skip that shit ;)
[02:38] <benn92649> damn
[02:38] <cables> gregday, hold on, i'll try to find a link
[02:38] <obake-san> thanks juggernaut, looks like it was a problem with GRUB
[02:38] <gregday> cables: are the Herd CDs the snapshots?
[02:38] <mykk> ubm i'll try installing :)
[02:38] <bruenig> benn92649, it is not good to encourage the use of windows apps, they perform poorly and are against the whole idea here
[02:38] <pavs2> is it gedit or geddit?
[02:38] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: I haven't needed libdvdcss2 to watch dvds yet
[02:38] <juggernaut> obake-san, great!!  :)
[02:38] <benn92649> will the new version be X64 or only X32
[02:38] <obake-san> its loading up after i reinstalled with GRUB on the same drive as ubuntu
[02:38] <bruenig> perform poorly in linux that is
[02:38] <cables> gregday, not sure what that is.
[02:38] <cables> pavs, gedit.
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: are you using DVD playing software that you paid for?
[02:39] <pavs2> tnx cables
[02:39] <benn92649> X 64 is a screamming banshee, its faster than anything
[02:39] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: I don't watch dvds on the computer :P
[02:39] <bruenig> !offtopic | benn92649
[02:39] <ubotu> benn92649: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:39] <benn92649> but nothing wants to work with it
[02:39] <Evil_`> How can I upgrade to 6.10?
[02:39] <bruenig> !upgrading | Evil_`
[02:39] <ubotu> Evil_`: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:39] <timfrost> gregday: yes the herd CDs are snapshots
[02:39] <gregday> ah thanks
[02:39] <benn92649> what is this channel
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: then why the question?.. if you pop in a movie, you'll likely need libdvdcss2, or you alread installed it
[02:39] <rbil> blindraven: before wiping your system and starting again, I'd try automatix2 bleeder and install the latest Nvidia driver from there.
[02:39] <bruenig> #ubuntu
[02:39] <kitche> benn92649: a support channel for ubuntu
[02:39] <benn92649> k
[02:40] <benn92649> so good i am a 3 day old this is where i need to be
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> kitche: i guess its hard to miss the big freakin thing at the top that says why you're here.
[02:40] <we2by> wow
[02:40] <mykk> how long does a normal install take?
[02:40] <we2by> now the menu is completely different!!??
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: about 30min for me.
[02:40] <benn92649> be nice
[02:40] <bruenig> benn92649, but not talking about x64's merits and feisty
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> could be longer, shorter for you, depending on options
[02:40] <keyser_soze> i'm having problems with sound on feisty amd64... sound card detected, and seems to be loaded, but no sound at all, volume stuck at 100%.  tried rebuilding alsa modules, no luck. tried pulseaudio gswrapper, no luck. for some reason the only device showing up in the gnome sound prefs is REALTEC ALC660, even though I have intel hardware and intel alsa modules loaded. heard there was command to reset sound card that might work? and
[02:40] <keyser_soze>  other ideas?
[02:40] <benn92649> ohh
[02:41] <kitche> IndyGunFreak: sometimes it is since I don't bother looking at the topic on many channels but then again Iknow what the channels are for :P
[02:41] <mykk> well the bar is just stuck at the start :P
[02:41] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: lol ok. I tried popping in some dvds and I was wondering why I couldn't watch them. just curious why
[02:41] <mykk> did this last time..
[02:41] <we2by> where do I get feisty?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> kitche: lol
[02:41] <kitche> keyser_soze: #ubuntu+1 is for feisty support
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: thats why, you need libdvdcss2
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Linux by default, can't read encrypted dvd's.
[02:41] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: how does windows watch them then?
[02:42] <ubm> mykk what hardware are you installing on? notebook or desktop?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: because M$ pays for the right
[02:42] <mykk> desktop ubm
[02:42] <gravemind> ahh
[02:42] <Yasim> Somebody knows how to translate OppenOffice?
[02:42] <benn92649> ok so heres a good one, what can i install in Ubuntu 6.10 X64 that will play all video codes?
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: lot of the commercial distros will play DVD's out of the box to.
[02:42] <IndyGunFreak> but the free ones rarely do.
[02:42] <bruenig> benn92649, nothing unless you want to chroot
[02:42] <cables> Yasim, there isn't an Ubuntu version for your language?
[02:42] <benn92649> what is chroot?
[02:42] <ubm> ok are you even able to boot into gnome to install?
[02:42] <bruenig> !chroot
[02:42] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[02:42] <SmileyLap> hi guys, i need to compile my driver (at least i think i do) for my laptop's wireless card. tho it appears in the device manager
[02:43] <benn92649> oh no way lol
[02:43] <mykk> it boots the cd ubm
[02:43] <kos-mos> I am on ubuntu dapper, trying to install edgy but having graphic problems.
[02:43] <mykk> and chose install from the list
[02:43] <ubm> ok so when you goto install then you get stuck at what percent?
[02:43] <mykk> there isn't a percentage :P
[02:43] <mage> bruenig: so I could get a 64bit proc, install ubuntu 64bit and then chroot for things like wine?
[02:43] <ubm> mykk as in does the progress bar make it half way and then freeze?
[02:43] <mykk> when the bar is scrolling constantly underneath the ubuntu logo it stops and reverts to the left hand side
[02:44] <mykk> and stops
[02:44] <bruenig> mage, you could yees
[02:44] <mage> sweet
[02:44] <Musicman> Alright, I have tried to install the drivers for the ATI X1600 video card atleast 10 times but fglrx keeps failing :(
[02:44] <bruenig> I just use 32 bit
[02:44] <ubm> ok so your not booting into gnome and then installing try running from live cd and check the partition
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | ubm
[02:44] <ubotu> ubm: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:44] <ubm> mykk do you have anything else installed on the drive
[02:44] <mage> I'd use 32bit as I like to diskless boot from my servers install of ubuntu
[02:44] <benn92649> so i am guessing your all massive big brained computer programers, there is no way a n00b twit like myself will beable to install and figure out chroot
[02:45] <mykk> yes windows, ubm
[02:45] <klein_>  i have a nvidia 6800 what is the comand to check if dri is enabled ? in terminal
[02:45] <benn92649> i wish wine worked with X64 without the hack
[02:45] <ubm> mykk are you using the live cd for edgy eft?
[02:45] <Musicman> Anyone? D:
[02:45] <mykk> i using an iso cd i just burnt after dling from the the webby :P
[02:45] <ubm> haha
[02:45] <mage> benn92649: im surprised you're running ubuntu, most people that shoehorn anyone smarter than them into "computer programmers" live with windows
[02:46] <mage> benn92649: laziest is you download the i386 livecd and install that
[02:46] <we2by> any one using feisty?
[02:46] <rbil> klein: glxinfo | grep rendering
[02:46] <blindraven> Ironic attitude from younger people with a graps of linux "Go back to windows joo n00b" yet the general consensus is "Come here from windows" Why would people bother if they were damned for trying. jesus.
[02:46] <gravemind> benn92649: what are you trying to do again?
[02:46] <mykk> ubm?
[02:46] <ubm> mykk so just to make sure you have the latest build ubuntu 6.10 edgy eft?
[02:47] <rbil> klein: needs to return: direct rendering: Ye
[02:47] <rbil> *Yes
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: if you're having trouble with the install freezing, try re-burning the disk, at a slower rate, say 2-4x..
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> thats worked for me in the past.
[02:47] <mage> blindraven: :)
[02:47] <mykk> yes ubm
[02:47] <mage> blindraven: I didn't tell him to go back, I'm asking why hes over here :p
[02:47] <kos-mos> how come safe graphic install on dapper worked and not so on edgy?
[02:47] <klein_> rbil: thank you
[02:47] <blindraven> all good :P
[02:47] <ubm> IndyGunFreak im trying to help mykk with the install ;)
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: oops..lol
[02:48] <ubm> mykk try selecting the first option in boot
[02:48] <blindraven> nvm, im annoyed.. stupid broken xorg =/
[02:48] <ubm> IndyGunFreak its ok ive done it before :P
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: well, that would be my suggestion, you can put that on your list of things to try...lol
[02:48] <ubm> haha
[02:48] <klein_> rbil: was going out of my mind trying to remember
[02:49] <mage> blindraven: anything beyond 1997 has seemed voodoo magic to me
[02:49] <ubm> i love this channel things get so crazy sometimes but its a good feeling to help others
[02:49] <benn92649> ok so my contribution to helping n00bphiles like me her it is: the greatest single guide in the known universe to get you rolling in linux absolutely hassle free is :http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy i know i spent 36 of the last 72 hours sitting here working with it
[02:49] <blindraven> So I'm assuming Automatix is frowned upon? is this because it is a script which "does it itself" which goes against the generel linux "Everything must take hours and be advanced to handle"  or...?
[02:49] <mykk> the first option on boot is to Start or Install Ubuntu - ubm
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> benn92649: you finally posted something useful
[02:49] <mage> blindraven: is automatix part of the ubuntu project?
[02:49] <mage> (i know nothing)
[02:50] <agent> !automatix
[02:50] <bruenig> !automatix
[02:50] <gravemind> lolol
[02:50] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> mage: no.. and frankly, it should be avoided
[02:50] <ubm> mykk you need to start ubuntu install but try using the F option for screen do you see it? i think its F3 or F2 not sure right now
[02:50] <bruenig> automatix is the devil
[02:50] <blindraven> In my experience "elitests" consist of people that swear by "anything and everything "OLD" and arrogently dismiss anything and everything "new"
[02:50] <gravemind> IndyGunFreak: I used it once
[02:50] <blindraven> ye, im coming to learn that :P
[02:50] <ubm> set your screen resolution to something practical like 800x600
[02:50] <mage> blindraven: apparently the damn bot has a good reason
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: used what once?
[02:50] <gravemind> automatix
[02:50] <mykk> F2 = language and F3  = keymap F4 = VGA
[02:50] <gravemind> I think I was installing mp3 support
[02:50] <ubm> mykk i think it may be your screen resolution that is preventing you from booting into gnome
[02:50] <IndyGunFreak> gravemind: i have it on my system, and its caused me no problems, but theres a lot of reports of it breaking systems, etc.
[02:50] <ubm> ok F4
[02:50] <blindraven> oh trust me, im well aware.. thats why im here :)
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> i proly wouldn't install it again if i had it to do over again
[02:51] <agent> Using LANG=en_US.UTF-8, KDE/QT applications do not show ISO 8859-2 characters, yet all other non-KDE/QT applications, including rxvt and xterm do show them fine. Why is this? Are the default fonts associated in KDE UTF8 broken?
[02:51] <gravemind> yeah
[02:51] <agent> My KDE fonts are all "sans serif" with "monospace" as "fixed width" (in Control Center)
[02:51] <gravemind> I didn't use it on this comp
[02:51] <mykk> ubm it was set to 1920 x odd
[02:51] <ubm> mykk did you get into F4 and pass the argument in boot?
[02:51] <mykk> i have set it to my usual
[02:51] <ubm> i bet that is the problem bro
[02:51] <mage> blindraven: its easier to make a fancy script target one distro than all distros
[02:52] <mykk> i hope so lol
[02:52] <ubm> hehe
[02:52] <IndyGunFreak> ubm: good troubleshooting there.
[02:52] <ubm> its little tedious shit like that... that will through you for a loop sometimes
[02:52] <ubm> :D
[02:52] <mykk> ubm - got an error  - /bin/sh can't access
[02:53] <bruenig> bro
[02:53] <mage> i hope the next ubuntu installer supports lvm and raid5
[02:53] <ubm> mykk set the resolution to 800x600 for now
[02:53] <bruenig> !alternate
[02:53] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[02:53] <blindraven> So is that why gentoo is better. independant settings that are tailored to the users specific setup? like, I dont know much.. but I keep getting told to try it out
[02:53] <mykk> (initramfs)
[02:53] <blindraven> Not goin to haoppen if i cant fix a simple display problem
[02:53] <mykk> is the rest causing this problem too ubm?
[02:53] <BUMBACLOT> what's gonna happen if you cum twice in a day?
[02:53] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: i really think you should try the alternate install CD
[02:54] <bruenig> blindraven, gentoo is not "better"
[02:54] <mykk> alternate?
[02:54] <mage> blindraven: gentoo installs everything from source, so any "stupid distro" assumption problems go away, as long as theres an ebuild for what you want
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> mykk:  its a text based installer(don't let that scare you, its not hard)....
[02:54] <tonedevf> hi all
[02:54] <ubm> mykk take IndyGunFreak's advice try the alternate install cd if the setting the screen resolution 800x600 dosnt work. but i think its the VGA settings that are hosing up the system
[02:54] <mage> blindraven: gentoo was great when portage would sync in a reasonable amount of time
[02:54] <blindraven> ah ok
[02:54] <[187ci] marc> edit your xorg.conf
[02:54] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: sometimes when pc's have probs with the regular installer, the alternate install gets them through it.
[02:54] <mage> also you need to keep it up to date, which means lots of CPU time compiling
[02:55] <mykk> where can i dl the alternate cd?
[02:55] <bruenig> the !alternate was pointed to mage and his lvm raid stuff
[02:55] <tonedevf> can someone help me with two (hopefully) quick questions?  one a basic shell script question and one about cron
[02:55] <blindraven> so the servers that let you collaborate slowly dissapeared?
[02:55] <bruenig> !offtopic | blindraven
[02:55] <knovak> To upgrade to Edgy or not to upgrade: this is  the question
[02:55] <ubotu> blindraven: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:55] <knovak> shall I?
[02:55] <mage> mykk: its in the directory with the other isos
[02:55] <bruenig> knovak, do you want to
[02:55] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: http://www.ubuntu.com go to the download section, and then download something like Ubuntu 6.10 Alternate install.iso
[02:55] <ubm> mykk you could do what the rest of us do and smash your hands into the keyboard, bang your head against the monitor a few times... its worked for me...
[02:55] <kriel> hey. can somebody help me fight through a sound patch? I got a new laptop that isn't supported by ubuntu's built in sound system, and i found a patch that's supposed to alleviate the problem, but im not entirely sure how to implement said patch.
[02:55] <knovak> Dapper works fine for me, but there are packages that I want to install that dont have dependencies under Dapper
[02:55] <mage> bruenig: I actually installed ubuntu with the bootstrap script
[02:55] <knovak> and they are in Edgy
[02:55] <BUMBACLOT> can you run MacOSX on intel?
[02:55] <mage> debootstrap
[02:55] <knovak> so I figure, why not just go the whole way
[02:55] <bruenig> !offtopic | BUMBACLOT
[02:55] <ubotu> BUMBACLOT: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  I dont want to use automatix to do that.. :P
[02:57] <mage> blindraven: IRC support is usually geared towards making things work
[02:57] <bruenig> blindraven, the problem with your "little script" is that the problems it creates are hard to track and since all you know, is "I ran this script" there is no way we can know what really happened
[02:57] <knovak> What is more reliable, Edgy or Dapper
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: why back to windows?
[02:57] <james> automatix: weather yppu love it or hate it depends on if it worked or not
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> knovak: they are both stable...
[02:57] <bruenig> blindraven, if you say, I accidentally did rm /etc/apt/sources.list, we can say ok do this, if you say I ran this script and now I have a problem, we don't know what that really means
[02:57] <mykk> so i can dl the alternate version
[02:58] <ubm> mykk dont give up 5 minutes before the miracle happens :)
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> mykk: ok... did you find it?
[02:58] <IndyGunFreak> on the link