[12:32] <noah> hello?
[19:45] <pandaroot> i have a very basic tv tuner card can i record the shows that are being displayer on my laptop that are being displayed using that card ?


[00:00] <ubotu> New bug: #179469 in audacious (universe) "Audacious 1.4.5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179469
[00:06] <ubotu> New bug: #179470 in nautilus (main) "search of .mx1 full of .mx1 files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179470
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179471 in audacious-plugins (universe) "audacious-plugins <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179471
[00:12] <ksbalaji> Hi Helpers I am new to this. I have Ubuntu Gutsy 7.10 installed and while playing videos I see vertical colour lines instead of movies can someone explain please?
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179473 in vlc (universe) "Missing controls on Mozilla VLC plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179473
[00:19] <ksbalaji> quit
[00:19] <ksbalaji> exit
[00:20] <ksbalaji> #exit
[00:20] <ksbalaji> #quit
[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #179474 in vlc (universe) "Missing controls on Mozilla VLC plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179474
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #179476 in launchpad-integration (main) "gives nonexistent origin URL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179476
[00:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179477 in launchpad-integration (main) "ignores datarootdir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179477
[00:56] <ubotu> New bug: #179480 in totem (main) "Totem Crashed, i could not run it again" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179480
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179481 in ubuntu "cant load 7.10 Live CD" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179481
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179482 in pulseaudio (main) "pulseaudio flooding system log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179482
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179483 in gnome-panel (main) "can't shut off update manager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179483
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #179484 in phpmyadmin (universe) "phpmyadmin and lighttpd = 404 - Not Found" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179484
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179487 in firefox (main) "Browsing history not cleared on close" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179487
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #179488 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 (main) "iwlwifi-4965-1.ucode firmware file req failed: Reason -2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179488
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #179491 in tomcat5.5 (universe) "please merge tomcat5.5 (5.5.25-4) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179491
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179492 in exuberant-ctags (main) "exuberant-ctags: python variables stating with "def" are shown as functions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179492
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #179493 in apollon (universe) "Can't preview multimedia files in Apollon" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179493
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #179494 in kubuntu-meta (main) "apt:"package" in Kubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179494
[03:31] <ubotu> New bug: #179495 in kdebase (main) "[hardy] "kdesu kcontrol" doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179495
[03:36] <ubotu> New bug: #179496 in kde-systemsettings (main) "[hardy] apply button grayed out (network settings)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179496
[03:41] <ubotu> New bug: #179497 in nvidia-kernel-common (restricted) "[hardy] using deprecated update-modules command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179497
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #179498 in evolution (main) "Appointment not changed when end time only in recurring appointment changed." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179498
[04:45] <fantum14> Hey, would anyone be able to help me reproduce a bug I think I've found in X? It would entail creating a scancode event from my keyboard, and while I know how to send keycodes, I need to send a scancode for this. Any ideas?
[04:48] <persia> fantum14: You might be able to fake something with uinput, but I'm not sure.
[04:49] <fantum14> persia: Could you elaborate?
[04:49] <persia> fantum14: I know almost nothing about uinput.  Google tells me http://www.einfochips.com/download/dash_jan_tip.pdf may be helpful.
[04:50] <persia> More generally, I believe uinput allows user injection of input events, which may allow injection of a keyboard scancode.
[04:50] <fantum14> persia: ah, thanks
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179500 in ubuntu "Ubuntu ask for a PASSWORD to be installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179500
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179502 in libpam-usb (universe) "insufficient dependencies for pamusb-tools " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179502
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179504 in ubuntu "[Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 users groups]  Can't login as root because administrative user can't change root's initial random password." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179504
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179505 in ubuntu "[Hardy 8.04 alpha-2 root privileges]   Root has no privileges." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179505
[07:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179506 in banshee (universe) "Banshee doesn't play anything" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179506
[08:10] <ubotu> New bug: #179507 in ubuntu "Evolution Receiving Options Server Type Broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179507
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #179508 in ubuntu "aticonfig refuses to start on Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179508
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179510 in ubuntu "Cannot play DVD through xine-backed players in Hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179510
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #179511 in yelp (main) "no sound heard on acer 6291" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179511
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179512 in evolution (main) "new Google Calendar read/write feature doesnt work (at least for germany - (because: googlemail.com instead gmail.com)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179512
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #179516 in hal (main) "Hald freeze system with phenom amd 4 core" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179516
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #179518 in gstreamer0.10 "Convertion from wma to ogg introduce hatches in the sound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179518
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #179519 in gnome-games (main) "gnect crashes after first move" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179519
[10:17] <ubotu> New bug: #179515 in ubuntu "X crashes while upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179515
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179517 in geany (universe) "Rendering errors in text editor" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179517
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179521 in hugin (universe) "hugin PTmender does not save panorama TIFF_m files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179521
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #179522 in openoffice.org (main) "bibliography database UI layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179522
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179523 in dictionaries-common (main) "File not generated: /usr/lib/ispell/en_GB.hash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179523
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179524 in kdebase (main) "NTFS volume mounted with wrong options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179524
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179525 in tracker (main) "can't translate part" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179525
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179526 in restricted-manager (restricted) "restricted-manager overwrites existing x.org.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179526
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #179528 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Kalva " [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179528
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #179529 in xkeycaps (universe) "xkeycaps missing macbookpro / macbook / apple keyboards" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179529
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179530 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel() (dup-of: 179185)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179530
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179531 in openoffice.org (main) "Incorrect Display of chart in imported MS excel document" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179531
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179532 in ubuntu "Ubuntu 7.10 installation - apt hangs when network not available" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179532
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179533 in devscripts (main) "update-maintainer does not get section automatically anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179533
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #179534 in rhythmbox (main) "[hardy] rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in soup_connection_disconnect()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179534
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #179535 in fontconfig (main) "Hardy: broken fontconfig configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179535
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #179537 in cupsys (main) "Error when cancelling print task" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179537
[12:31] <ubotu> New bug: #179539 in specto (universe) "specto crashed with IncompleteRead in _safe_read() (dup-of: 179538)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179539
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179542 in kdemultimedia (main) "KMix mixer window needs layout rethink" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179542
[13:25] <ubotu> New bug: #179543 in ubuntu ".swf file probs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179543
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179545 in ubuntu "create Ubuntu packages for Malbolge Survival Kit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179545
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179546 in ubuntu "Please package Gneutronica" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179546
[14:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179547 in ubuntu "X does not start on Kubuntu 7.10 on PPC" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179547
[14:36] <ubotu> New bug: #179548 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] gbemol" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179548
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #179549 in sudo (main) ""sudo: unable to resolve host shahriar-desktop"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179549
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #179550 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythmbox can't import some of Sound Juicers Ogg-extractions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179550
[14:56] <ubotu> New bug: #179552 in gnome-session (main) "gnome-session hangs on log in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179552
[15:00] <persia> Happy New Year
[15:15] <ubotu> New bug: #179556 in amarok "Amarok keeps playing current lastfm song when requested to skip (if next track is also lastfm)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179556
[15:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179553 in ubuntu "8800GTX NOT SUPPORT " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179553
[15:35] <ubotu> New bug: #179557 in ubuntu "Unsolicitated modifications in xorg.conf when rebooting" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179557
[15:45] <ubotu> New bug: #179563 in devscripts (main) "uscan: option --user-agent doesn't work properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179563
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #179565 in ubuntu "GNOME is horribly Slow!!!" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179565
[15:55] <ubotu> New bug: #179566 in rhythmbox (main) "Rhythbox Library playback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179566
[16:22] <ubotu> New bug: #179570 in ubuntu "baobab crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc() (dup-of: 149977)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179570
[16:25] <ubotu> New bug: #179573 in ubuntu "Hardy Studio Alpha 2 does not install on AMD64 machines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179573
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179574 in ubuntu "No display (blank screen) on log out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179574
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #179577 in evince (main) "evince, thumbnailer, nautilus hang on  text2ps postscript" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179577
[17:09]  * SnackPack joins bugsquad
[17:09] <SnackPack> \m/
[17:49] <devil_frank> Hello to all end appy new year
[17:55] <ubotu> New bug: #179588 in swfdec-mozilla (universe) "swfdec-mozilla not working in hardy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179588
[18:00] <Iuli> Happy New Year, devil_frank.
[18:31] <ubotu> New bug: #179592 in libmowgli (universe) "Please sync libmowgli 0.6.0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179592
[19:03] <ubotu> New bug: #179597 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Please package FMOD" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179597
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #179599 in libparse-debianchangelog-perl (main) "[FTBFS] libparse-debianchangelog-perl (1.1.1-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179599
[19:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179601 in system-config-printer (main) "printer notification icon is pointless and annoying" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179601
[19:51] <ubotu> New bug: #179606 in xdg-utils (main) "xdg-util new upstream needs packaging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179606
[20:20] <ubotu> New bug: #179609 in debian-installer (main) "Ubuntu Studio Hardy Alpha 2 does not install " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179609
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #128016 in pychecker (main) "gutsy/amd64: ftbfs / autopkgtest failure (dup-of: 156953)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/128016
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #179611 in gnome-power-manager (main) "Inconsistency in battery charge time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179611
[20:40] <ubotu> New bug: #179612 in qt-x11-free (main) "qt uses non-reentrant libmysqlclient, causing mythtv instability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179612
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #179613 in ubuntu "apmsleep present but without supporting modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179613
[21:36] <ubotu> New bug: #179614 in xcdroast (universe) "xcdroast requires icedax but not installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179614
[21:41] <ubotu> New bug: #179615 in ubuntu "gnome feedback page link broken?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179615
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179590 in blender (universe) "Blender v2.4.4(32bit) crashes on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179590
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #179616 in pulseaudio (main) "[Hardy] Sounds through pulseaudio-esound-compat lag" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179616
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #179617 in gap (universe) "[FTBFS] gap (4r4p10-1) fails to build in hardy" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179617
[21:55] <ubotu> New bug: #179618 in griffith "During "Get from Web ", griffith window keeps stealing focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179618
[22:26] <ubotu> New bug: #179620 in ubuntu "hardware key not false" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179620
[22:40] <ubotu> New bug: #179622 in evince (main) "i can't see video streaming from you tube or aonther video server  i try too many solution without any sucess please could you help  me" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179622
[22:50] <ubotu> New bug: #179623 in griffith "Make "Get from Web" button a default action if title is entered" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179623
[23:01] <ubotu> New bug: #179624 in amarok (main) "[patch] install-mp3 script doesn't work anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179624
[23:30] <ubotu> New bug: #179625 in nullidentd (universe) "nullidentd man page and default configuration is wrong" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179625
[23:59]  * XSource_ Accept/Balls To The Wall - global german radio network - Various (x«amarok)


[00:00] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: your taskbar doesn't stay the same when you reboot? Is your computer shutting down properly?
[00:00] <soee> SIR_Taco, its connecting, auth and than i have notification than connection is lost
[00:01] <SIR_Taco> soee: have you tried Kopete? not sure about the status of kmess
[00:01] <SIR_Taco> Kmess was great a decade ago :)
[00:02] <chemicalvamp> SIR_Taco, yes standard reboot command
[00:02] <soee> well looks like 3.0 will be nice
[00:02] <SIR_Taco> soee: I haven't tried it in years. I do know that Kopete works with MSN
[00:03] <chemicalvamp> how do you manually save a session?
[00:03] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: that's very odd... does it do it if you log-out (not reboot) and re-login?
[00:04] <chemicalvamp> yes
[00:04] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: everything resets even with loging out and not restarting?
[00:05] <chemicalvamp> i dont ever log out :) just reboot
[00:05] <chemicalvamp> i can check, whats the command for logout? lol its not in my menu
[00:06] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: under "System Settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Session Management" what's checked for "On Login"?
[00:06] <chemicalvamp> restore previous session
[00:07] <chemicalvamp> but i was thinking restore manually saved session might do it if i can save this session
[00:07] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: well yea, that should work... haven't tried it myself though
[00:07] <chemicalvamp> do you know how to manually save?
[00:09] <SIR_Taco> no, I haven't had the need to
[00:11] <chemicalvamp> hum, well i found a thread with a similar problem, there solution was to click leave>restart
[00:11] <chemicalvamp> kinda sucks, i like using reboot and halt commands
[00:12] <SIR_Taco> chemicalvamp: halt and reboot (via console) interrupts the KDE process.... if you do it through KDE, then it will do it's thing and save the session
[00:13] <chemicalvamp> sweet :)
[00:13] <chemicalvamp> nothings broken im just dumb lol thanks
[00:14] <SIR_Taco> haha, you're not dumb
[00:15] <SIR_Taco> ok... whatever then
[00:15] <SIR_Taco> next?
[00:49] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings, all.
[00:51] <SIR_Taco> hey LINKSWORD2
[00:52] <LINKSWORD2> SIR_Taco: Do you use Firefox on Kubuntu?
[00:53] <SIR_Taco> I do, yes
[00:53] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Do you?
[00:53] <LINKSWORD2> I do, but I'm having a couple problems with Firefox.
[00:53] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, I thought that might be where we were going with that.
[00:54] <SIR_Taco> anyway.... problem? hah
[00:54] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[00:56] <valorie> Flash-Aid takes care of most of my recent probs. with FF
[00:56] <valorie> but I can't right-click links still
[00:56] <LINKSWORD2> Well, here's the issue....
[00:56] <valorie> which might drive me back to Konq or Rekonq
[00:56] <valorie> or even to Chromium
[00:57] <LINKSWORD2> A site that I visit requires an Apple Quicktime plugin.
[00:57] <LINKSWORD2> And of course, Quicktime is not available outside of Windows / Mac.
[00:58] <SIR_Taco> mplayer plugin used to do Quicktime... haven't run into it lately though
[00:58] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I can't find mplayer...
[00:58] <LINKSWORD2> And I need something that works.
[00:59] <SIR_Taco> valorie: there's many to-do's for flash and linux that I hope to fix at some time....
[01:03] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: do you have libquicktime installed?
[01:03] <LINKSWORD2> Huh?
[01:03] <SIR_Taco> "sudo apt-get install libquicktime"
[01:04] <LINKSWORD2> E: Unable to loacate libquicktime
[01:06] <SIR_Taco> er, sorr... libquicktime2
[01:06] <SIR_Taco> sorry
[01:07] <LINKSWORD2> E: Unable to locate libquicktime2
[01:07] <SIR_Taco> how about libquicktime1 ?
[01:08] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:08] <LINKSWORD2> libquicktime is already the newest version
[01:08] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:09] <LINKSWORD2> And yet, it doesn't seem to work....
[01:12] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, for mplayer "sudo apt-get install mplayer"
[01:13] <LINKSWORD2> mplayers is already the newest version
[01:13] <LINKSWORD2> mplayer (typo)
[01:13] <LINKSWORD2> I'll try the site again, but it didn't work earlier.
[01:14] <LINKSWORD2> Same results. Missing plugin required for Apple Quicktime media.
[01:15] <SIR_Taco> you could try "sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-vlc"
[01:15] <SIR_Taco> seems to have replaced the Mplayer plugin
[01:15] <wildgoose> !quicktime
[01:17] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[01:17] <LINKSWORD2> I typed input on Quassel and it kicked me out. :o
[01:18] <SIR_Taco> very nice haha
[01:20] <LINKSWORD2> Epic fail.
[01:20] <LINKSWORD2> Still not playing the Quicktime media.
[01:22] <SIR_Taco> LINKSWORD2: what about installing mozilla-plugin-vlc ?
[01:23] <LINKSWORD2> That's what I just did, man. lol
[01:23] <SIR_Taco> haha
[01:24] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Did you restart your browser after installing?
[01:25] <LINKSWORD2> Yes.
[01:25] <LINKSWORD2> Restarting it again.
[01:26] <LINKSWORD2> ... Ok, that's really weird.
[01:26] <LINKSWORD2> Visiting the site crashes Firefox.
[01:29] <SIR_Taco> very odd
[01:37] <LINKSWORD2> Any more ideas, wildgoose?
[01:42] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[01:44] <LINKSWORD2> I think I need to learn a LOT more about Linux....
[01:44] <LINKSWORD2> Specifically, about Kubuntu/Ubuntu.
[01:47] <LINKSWORD2> Firefox crashed again.
[01:50] <LINKSWORD2> No more ideas?
[01:55] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm....
[01:56] <gr8m8> start firefox from a terminal to capture any errors
[01:58] <LINKSWORD2> How would I do that?
[02:17] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, type "firefox" in the terminal......
[02:21] <alkafoo> VNC server on Kubuntu 10.04.2 disc?
[02:21] <LINKSWORD2> wildgoose: May I chat one-on-one with you?
[02:23] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Sure
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> xorg.conf should be in /etc/x11 correct?
[02:59] <gr8m8> it's not normally needed these days so you have to make your own or add to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[03:06] <chemicalvamp> gr8m8 i do have a file /etc/x11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[03:07] <chemicalvamp> i just need /etc/x11/xorg.conf for tweaking my touchpad
[03:07] <gr8m8> chemicalvamp: there should be a file in xorg.conf.d/ called 10-synaptics or similarto tweak
[03:10] <chemicalvamp> nope, i dont.. but this isnt kubuntu, its a distro based off of it
[03:11] <gr8m8> does it have the synaptics driver installed?
[03:11] <gr8m8> should show in your X log near the bottom
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> i would assume so.. yes, but i havent checked
[03:11] <chemicalvamp> i dont know where the x log is
[03:13] <gr8m8> should be in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:13] <gr8m8> bbiab
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 1.2.2 so thats a yes
[03:54] <santhosh> #ubuntu
[03:54] <santhosh> exit
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> anybody here edited their touchpad configuration?
[04:38] <valorie> !touchpad
[04:39] <valorie> chemicalvamp: ^^^
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> thanks valorie
[04:40] <valorie> ubottu: thanks!
[04:40] <valorie> lol
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> does it still do cookie?
[04:40] <chemicalvamp> !cookie
[04:40] <valorie> !cookie
[04:40] <valorie> nice
[04:40] <Firefishe> !pasty
[04:40] <Firefishe> blast! ;)
[04:41] <Firefishe> no cornish pasties?  drat!
[04:41] <Firefishe> Does Natty have any weirdness with nvidia chipsets whilst running the os in virtualbox?
[04:42] <Firefishe> ....using the binary driver?
[04:42] <chemicalvamp> such a good bot.. my irc bot just insults me
[04:42] <chemicalvamp> gotta love seeborg
[04:43] <chemicalvamp> valori this site isnt very comprehensive if it doesnt have what i need is it? :)
[04:43] <valorie> heh
[04:44] <valorie> the ops are good about adding factoids if asks
[04:44] <chemicalvamp> my vertical scroll region is like 1/3 of my whole pad
[04:45] <valorie> asked
[04:45] <valorie> did the guide help?
[04:46] <chemicalvamp> no i dont see anything about scroll regions
[04:47] <chemicalvamp> what kills me is i have done all this before, and now i cant find the site
[04:47] <chemicalvamp> it was some command with xinput
[06:10] <chemicalvamp> how does a person download an apt:
[06:10] <chemicalvamp> like apt:adobe-flashplugin?channel=$distro-partner
[06:40] <santhosh_keesara> hi punty
[06:40] <santhosh_keesara>  how r u?
[07:07] <LINKSWORD2> OK, that's not a goood sign...
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> My graphics settings have switched over to Ubuntu's standard layout.
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> I need to revert it to normal.
[07:13] <anonboo> LINKSWORD2, Standard layout?
[07:14] <LINKSWORD2> It appears to be Ubuntu, vs. Kubuntu...
[07:14] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not sure how to explain... :/
[07:15] <anonboo> LINKSWORD2, Meaning Gnome vs. KDE?
[07:15] <valorie> do you run both Ubuntu desktop and Kubuntu desktop?
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> yes, anonboo
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> Or should I say.... wildgoose?
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> No, valorie
[07:17] <valorie> !purekde
[07:17] <valorie> that might help
[07:17] <LINKSWORD2> Valorie, I think I love you....
[07:17] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[07:17] <valorie> lol
[07:17] <new_user> hey there, for some reason my keyboard got disabled in the normal system account
[07:18] <new_user> it is external wireless keyboard as well as the hardware one on the netbook
[07:18] <new_user> and I can't figure out how to enable it again. I created now another user account and it works here
[07:18] <valorie> let's see if ubottu has any wisdom for you
[07:18] <valorie> !keyboard
[07:18] <valorie> hmmm
[07:19] <anonboo> LINKSWORD2, I thought of a tip for you, keep a notebook with everything you are doing to your box.
[07:19] <valorie> not sure that's useful
[07:19] <valorie> better: blog about it
[07:19] <valorie> that way people think you're smart, when actually you are only taking notes
[07:19] <LINKSWORD2> To both of you.... I prefer my privacy...
[07:19] <valorie> http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com for mine
[07:19] <new_user> valorie: the keyboard works for entering luks password and for entering password to login into user account... but in plasma it stops working. I even tried the onboard keyboard and that didn't work either (or I couldn't figure out how)
[07:20] <anonboo> valorie, Good call
[07:20] <valorie> blogging doesn't have to be about your personal life
[07:20] <valorie> it can be tech only
[07:20] <valorie> and can be under a pseudonym
[07:21] <LINKSWORD2> Hehe. LINKSWORD2 is a handle, or pseudonym, in the first place...
[07:21] <valorie> exactly
[07:21] <LINKSWORD2> If anyone thinks I'm going to tell my real name, they'd be bloody bonkers...
[07:21] <valorie> eh
[07:21] <valorie> I don't care
[07:21] <valorie> mine is everywhere, and has been for a long time
[07:21] <anonboo> LINKSWORD2, That maybe easier to find than you think.
[07:22] <valorie> I'm sure you could find my house in less than 5 minutes
[07:22] <LINKSWORD2> anon, I keep my identity well-hidden.
[07:22] <anonboo> I know I started it but we're getting a bit OT now
[07:22] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:23] <valorie> we can use #kubuntu-offtopic for chat, btw
[07:25] <LINKSWORD2> Well... I've had a few other problems pop up.
[07:25] <anonboo> Idaho potatoes for one.
[07:25] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:26] <LINKSWORD2> So rather than trying to backtrack and find all of the problems, I'm going to copy my music back to my USB 16GB and start over.
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> I don't keep much on this system, so I never lose much.
[07:53] <chemicalvamp> whats the apt command to search through installed programs?
[07:58] <anonboo> chemicalvamp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?s=aeba1afa1ce5619dc192de6d388e9518&p=2918063&postcount=3
[07:59] <LINKSWORD2> Cool! I'm back! And everything looks normal.
[08:41] <juan_> Hola a todos
[08:42] <juan_> alguien que escriba en español?
[08:43] <LINKSWORD2> !espanol | juan_
[09:53] <kubunubu> hi all
[09:55] <kubunubu> I just installed kubuntu 11.04 and my ethernet adapter is not found
[09:56] <kubunubu> sudo lshw ¦ grep net returns nothing
[09:56] <kubunubu> there is a green light on the adapter and the router
[09:57] <kubunubu> and adapter worked fine before install
[09:59] <kubunubu> I have tried to reinstall a few times and I've also tried the live cd
[09:59] <kubunubu> all with the same result
[10:00] <kubunubu> It is an integrated adapter
[10:01] <prabhakaran> Hi
[10:02] <kubunubu> How can I get my internet working on the new install
[10:02] <kubunubu> hi
[10:03] <prabhakaran> regularly the package manager crashes
[10:03] <prabhakaran> is that a serious bug in the latest version?
[10:16] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:16] <cousin_mario> Is there a ppa for the nvidia driver 275.09.07 yet?
[10:23] <Torch> cousin_mario: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/760632
[10:28] <cousin_mario> Torch: fantastic, I'll just install it by hand
[10:43] <cousin_mario> Torch: perfect, it's working a charm
[10:43] <cousin_mario> any idea when it will be in the main repository?
[10:44] <Torch> cousin_mario: no, afraid not
[10:44] <cousin_mario> ok
[10:55] <kubunubu> any ideas why my clean install doesn't detect my integrated ethernet adapter. lshw ¦ grep net retursn blank
[10:56] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: what about lspci?
[11:05] <kubunubu> sorry i sec
[11:07] <ashwin> I copied everything in my home folder and reinstalled kubuntu.How can i replace new home folder by old one?
[11:12] <kubunubu> lspci also returns without network adapter
[11:13] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: does it show unknown peripherals?
[11:13] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: if not, I can only think of your network adapter being disabled in the bios settings
[11:14] <kubunubu> no
[11:14] <kubunubu> host bridge
[11:14] <cousin_mario> ashwin: depends on how you copied your data
[11:14] <kubunubu> 5*ram
[11:14] <kubunubu> isa bridge
[11:14] <kubunubu> SMBus
[11:14] <szal> ashwin: 1. you should've done that while installing; 2. edit /etc/fstab to point /home to the new partition & reboot
[11:14] <kubunubu> 3*ubs
[11:14] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: can you pastebin it?
[11:14] <kubunubu> in the bios
[11:15] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: does the network adaptor work from other OSes?
[11:17] <kubunubu> am...I'm using the live-usb and ... I don't have another usb key so I don't know how I can move it to this laptop to post it...sorry
[11:17] <kubunubu> adapter worked perfectly before install
[11:17] <kubunubu> i used 10.04 LTS for a while
[11:18] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: do you recall the driver?
[11:19] <kubunubu> I have debian on a separate hdd but did a dist upgrade there and can't get any gui
[11:19] <kubunubu> I don't remember ever configuring the ethernet driver
[11:20] <kubunubu> I'll check other hdd to see network is still working
[11:20] <cousin_mario> kubunubu: knowing the specific module used might be of use
[11:20] <cousin_mario> you could have a look if there are reported bugs
[11:23] <kubunubu> how do I find out which module is used?
[11:27] <kubunubu> I just booted with other hard disk and i have no eth0 there now either...maybe I did something in the bios ...
[11:30] <szal> then check in the BIOS
[11:32] <kubunubu> I checked bios
[11:33] <kubunubu> I can't see anywhere that ethernet is disabled
[11:34] <szal> open case, check that network card is plugged into its socket properly
[11:35] <kubunubu> it is integrated, and the green light is on
[11:36] <kubunubu> sudo ifconfig eth0 up, returns: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:37] <szal> full output of 'lspci' please..  in case you're still on Debian, it should have dpaste, so "sudo lspci | dpaste" (assuming you have a working network connection there; otherwise divert output to file -> sudo lspci > outputfilename <-, copy that to a machine w/ net access & paste from there)
[11:38] <kubunubu> deb connection not working now either sorry
[11:39] <szal> then read on at "otherwise"
[11:39] <kubunubu> I'll try to get it to this laptop
[11:39] <kubunubu> thanks;)
[11:59] <cousin_mario> what's dpaste?
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IGP2 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
[12:01] <kubunubu> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
[12:01] <FloodBotK2> kubunubu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <lovesthethianood> hi my sound recently dissapeered along with flash,i have fixed hte flash issue with flashaid yet still no sound,any ideas?
[12:03] <fabbio84> hi everyone
[12:04] <fabbio84> i've a deb issue
[12:04] <mfraz74> only trouble I've had with Flash recently is that it will crash and I have to log in from elsewhere to kill the process
[12:04] <kubunubu> my output from lspci is pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/628735/
[12:05] <szal> cousin_mario: dpaste is Debian's equivalent to pastebinit
[12:05] <fabbio84> i downloaded virtualbox4*.deb but when i click the file kubuntu ask me which program associates to the file
[12:05] <szal> iirc, they invented that sort of pastebin script (or took the idea from unofficial work by someone else)
[12:05] <fabbio84> in ubuntu it works automatically
[12:06] <drbobb> hey there used to be an option to keep touchpad off in system settings, after some recent update it's gone. either that or I'm crazy ;-]
[12:06] <szal> fabbio84: follow the instructions to set up the pkg source from virtualbox.org, then install using the pkg manager
[12:06] <mfraz74> fabbio84: expect it should be kpackagekit
[12:07] <drbobb> so how the f*** am I supposed to switch off the touchpad if it prevents me from typing correctly??
[12:07] <fabbio84> but i want to know why there isn't a default program for *.deb files
[12:08] <mfraz74> drbobb: have you tried synaptiks
[12:08] <drbobb> mfraz74: never heard of it, thanks for the tip
[12:08] <fabbio84> mfraz74: where i can find kpackagekit? i mean the path
[12:09] <mfraz74> fabbio84: not sure, but if you edit the kmenu, you should find the location
[12:09] <Goliath> can you please make knetworkmanager work? Sometimes it doesnt display wireless connections at all and i have to use wicd or iwlist wlan0 scan....
[12:10]  * szal has as default to run .debs 'GDebi package installer'
[12:10] <mfraz74> drbobb: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/kde-config-touchpad
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[12:13] <drbobb> mfraz74: system settings says I have it installed already..
[12:15] <drbobb> and lshw says my touchpad is not a synaptics, but an elantech
[12:16] <drbobb> (not sure whether that matters)
[12:16] <BluesKaj> goli which wifi chip . lshw -C network , look for mobile/wifi nic
[12:16] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:18] <ilias> does anyone has an idea why my 10.04 system while is booting stops and cannot start and the same time blinks capslock light? it is the third time in last 5 days it stops while booting and i have to switch it of and reboot.
[12:19] <drbobb> blinking capslock usually means kernel panic
[12:20] <drbobb> and in my experience more often than not that means broken hardware
[12:21] <ilias> and broken hardware what does it mean?
[12:23] <szal> that you need to find out yourself
[12:23]  * szal would suggest running memtest first
[12:25] <ilias> i have plugged on my laptop a usb hub and in last boot stop i saw that the light of usb wifi adaptor which is connected on the hub was switch off. is it possible that sometimes there is a bad load of the hub? memtest how will help?
[12:27] <drbobb> ilias: bad ram, badly plugged-in ram, toasted motherboard, whatever
[12:27] <lovesthethianood> hi my sound recently dissapeered along with flash,i have fixed hte flash issue with flashaid yet still no sound,any ideas?
[12:27] <drbobb> ilias: first try booting a live cd, if that doen't work, well you have a problem
[12:29] <linux-beginner-h> has someone activated the nepomuk desktop search runner plugin in krunner?
[12:31] <howoriginalAU> Hi everyone :)
[12:31] <ilias> i dont think there is any problem with the ram, mb or whatever of the hardware except maybe the usb hub. because the proble became after a system update using evgenesan repos.
[12:31] <howoriginalAU> Has anyone here configured a windows live account with Kmail? I've tried googling how to do it but to no avail. I'm very new to linux and I'd love to get Kmail going (looks like a fantastic program)
[12:32] <mfraz74> howoriginalAU: is your live mail account setup for POP3 access?
[12:32] <howoriginalAU> mfraz74: it is indeed
[12:33] <mfraz74> howoriginalAU: I've got mine setup for Hotmail, is there any difference between that and live mail?
[12:33] <howoriginalAU> aside from it ending in @live.com.au I don't believe there is
[12:33] <howoriginalAU> what I have at the moment
[12:33] <howoriginalAU> is pop3.live.com as the outgoing
[12:33] <howoriginalAU> and smtp.live.com as the incoming
[12:34] <howoriginalAU> and for respective ports I have 995 and 587
[12:34] <lovesthethianood> Im having sound issues,kmix or whatever th4e sound deamon is says my sound is turned up yet i cant here anything.
[12:34] <szal> howoriginalAU: the other way around..  pop is incoming, smtp is outgoing
[12:34] <howoriginalAU> szal: sorry, I meant the other way around lol
[12:34] <howoriginalAU> bit dyslexic tonight
[12:34] <lovesthethianood> PS:im pretty sure im not deaf so this should be a computer related issue
[12:34] <szal> !audio
[12:36] <howoriginalAU> ahhh hang on I think I managed to do it, my inbox is starting to fill up
[12:36] <howoriginalAU> lol
[12:36] <howoriginalAU> 10 points for trial and error everybody
[12:37] <howoriginalAU> Now hopefully it'll leave the messages on the server like I've selected....
[12:38] <howoriginalAU> Also, this distribution is absolutely fantastic guys, I'm truly impressed at how far Kubuntu has come
[12:39] <howoriginalAU> I am not 'new' new to linux, as in I know what it is and I've tried it for an hour here and there, but for my first long term usage it is really really good. Anyway, I won't take up a support forum with anymore irrelevant stuf
[13:00] <kubunubu> hi again, i looked more in my bios for LAN
[13:00] <kubunubu> there is no entry for LAN
[13:00] <kubunubu> it is not disabled, it is missing
[13:00] <lovesthethianood> szal: none of hte steps in that guide helped.
[13:01] <kubunubu> i don't understand how this could have happened or what to do now
[13:02] <szal> kubunubu: you're still owing us the paste for lspci
[13:02] <kubunubu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/628735/
[13:02] <kubunubu> I flooded something here...
[13:03] <kubunubu> thanks for ur help
[13:03] <szal> ATI Rage 128?  in what museum did you find that?
[13:03] <kubunubu> hahaha
[13:03] <kubunubu> i know crazy
[13:04] <kubunubu> I have had issues but amazingly the kde desktop does come up
[13:06] <howoriginalAU> wow an ATI Rage
[13:06] <kubunubu> I'm more inclined to think my networking problem is in the BIOS now but I can't understand why it doesn't appear in integrated peripherals
[13:06] <howoriginalAU> That's awesome man lol
[13:07]  * szal has an old server board w/ an ATI Rage 128 lying around
[13:08] <Joshun> hi. I have several folder views on my kde plasma desktop, and on startup i get 'the process for the file protocol died unexpectedly' on at least one of them. could anybody help with this?
[13:08] <szal> no idea whether lshw sees hardware not listed in lspci
[13:09] <kubunubu> I'll paste lshw 1 minute
[13:10] <szal> kubunubu: you might wanna restrict it to network-related stuff; see 'lshw --help' for the exact option
[13:11] <kubunubu> I did lshw ¦ grep net which returned blank
[13:15] <kubunubu> sudo lshw | grep net should return at least one line shouldn't it?
[13:15] <k0s> Привет!
[13:18] <kubunubu> sudo lshw -c NETWORK > lshw.txt is empty
[13:35] <kubunubu> ANY IDEAS WHERE MY LAN IS GONE?
[13:36] <ftpvirus> hi
[13:36] <ftpvirus> all
[13:38] <ftpvirus> всем привет
[13:47] <kubunubu> sorry for the caps lock there, I have to go for a few hours
[14:38] <cousin_mario> szal: wonderful!:)
[14:42] <esmirlin> hi, it's my first time on kde, i use a laptob with the screen broken, so i always plug an vga one... the thing is that when i change into screens, the panel bar seems to lose its effects, like it isn't transparent any more :S can anyone help me?
[14:47] <esmirlin> está de más que pida soporte de kubuntu en este canal¿?
[14:48] <esmirlin> hi, it's my first time on kde, i use a laptob with the screen broken, so i always plug an vga one... the thing is that when i change into screens, the panel bar seems to lose its effects, like it isn't transparent any more :S can anyone help me?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !es | esmirlin
[14:55] <esmirlin> BluesKaj: yeah i know, i just didn't switch to the correct channel... anyways mi question was typped in english :P
[14:58] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, I think you need to set the VGA as the default screen , but not sure how that's done
[15:01] <BluesKaj> esmirlin, kmenu>apps>system settings>display&monitor>size &orientation..click save as default
[15:02] <cousin_mario> bbl
[15:04] <Guest97156> I'm missing menu bar in Kstars  using the latest KDE 4.6.4 any way to fix this?
[15:05] <Guest97156> Also while we're at it. . . anyway to change Konsole font size and color. (I prefer Gnomes version of Terminal which makes this easy.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Kstars?
[15:06] <Guest97156> Yes
[15:06] <Guest97156> Menu at the top is missing.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Guest97156, thatdoesn't tell me what it is
[15:07] <BluesKaj> the menu on kde is at the bottom
[15:07] <Guest97156> Kstars is a Astronomy app.
[15:07] <BluesKaj> then install it
[15:09] <Guest97156> A lot of help here. Thnx.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Guest11882, openn the terminal >settings>configure profiles
[15:14] <BluesKaj> btw Guest11882 , have you installed kubuntu-desktop or just kde ?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> oops sorry Guest11882 , the other guest left  ...wish guests would give themselves nicks
[16:58] <BluesKaj> !macbook
[17:05] <soee> is it possible to have videos previw in dolphin ?
[17:15] <BATi> soee: try kffmpegthumbnailer
[17:25] <soee> BATi, it works, thank you
[17:32] <BATi> soee: no prob...
[18:15] <Justfigureitout> Ok maybe I am the only one with this issue, when dragging an icon to the desktop from a zip folder (not to the folder view but to the actual physical desktop) everything freezes up, am I the only one with this issue
[18:16] <Justfigureitout> also how do I enable everything to update past 4.6.2 to 4.6.4?
[18:16] <Justfigureitout> I would love to stay with the current KDE revision
[18:22] <ronnoc> Justfigureitout: What Kubuntu version are you running?
[18:22] <Justfigureitout> latest
[18:24] <excognac> hi all after trying out many distros, this remained on my laptop, seems to work fine. Is there any szstem testing like in ubuntu-
[18:24] <excognac> ?
[18:24] <ronnoc> You just need to enable the kubuntu ppa
[18:24] <ronnoc> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-release-464
[18:24] <Justfigureitout> thanks love
[18:24] <ronnoc> anytime =)
[18:27] <TheBuntu> what pages do i need to run a personal web page from my pc
[18:33] <lcb> TheBuntu: '$ sudo apt-get install apache2' Open http://localhost ; Whatever you put into /varwww/ will go to the web. That's for starters. You need to read something on "how to run a web page from my pc in ubuntu" . It's not difficult.
[18:36] <lcb> TheBuntu: *Whatever you put into /var/www/ ... *
[18:37] <TheBuntu> lcb: i use to do it years ago in windows.. and it was easy then..... will apache do it.. or do i have to go somewhere.. to give my IP adress a web name
[18:39] <lcb> TheBuntu: best bet is to use a dynamic ip, in case yours is a dynamic one. (DynDNS is among the popular ones, free, basic). For domain, you need to point it  to your ip - normally you have a control panel to do that, where you register your domain.
[18:40] <TheBuntu> lcb: control panel a nother package to install
[18:42] <lcb> TheBuntu: no. IF you register a domain, you might have a control panel where you register it. If so, you could assign and configure several settings, including where to point the domain.
[18:42] <ronnoc> TheBuntu: No, lcb means the control panel for your account where you registered your domain name. Same thing you would do in Windows.
[18:44] <lcb> TheBuntu: IF you use, for instance, DynDNS, you could use a domain like this. luizcb.dyndns.org || this is the page you'll get after installing apache
[18:44] <lcb> http://luizcb.dyndns.org
[18:45] <lcb> thinking on that, basically, you can change the contents of that page to whatever you want. that's a basic page. More elaborated pages and web contents is up to you.
[18:47] <lcb> about DynDNS go to http://DynDNS.org and register. chose a name and you'll get something like what i just gave you, TheBuntu
[18:48] <lcb> got it? need to run....
[18:49] <lcb> ronnoc: tks :)
[18:49] <lcb> didn't see ur comment b4
[18:50] <ronnoc> lcb: np :) That reminded me my dyn-dns account was about to expire!
[18:51] <lcb> ronnoc: you could run an dyn dns auto-update from ubuntu
[18:51] <lcb> or... today's routers comes with it
[18:51] <lcb> normally..
[18:52] <lcb> ronnoc: check on dyndns FAQ, i think they have info on how to install it
[18:53] <ronnoc> well I'm not really using it atm, I just keep an account active so I can keep my servername in case. Thx for the info though.
[18:53] <lcb> funny thing about the one i use, expired probably 10 times already, during past 10 or 20 years and i allays got it back
[18:53] <lcb> allways either
[18:55] <lcb> ronnoc: there are other good ones now. if you do a search on dr. google you'll find / and compare. different features at times.
[18:56] <ronnoc> ahhh thanks! will do. I had used dyn dns for years. we're creatures of habit, I guess :)
[18:59] <lcb> ronnoc: :)
[19:13] <TheBuntu> lcb: i did my domain name.... pointed it to my ip address..... if i open http://localhost   it finds it.... if type in domain name it dont find it..... now sence im on a router do i gota do anything inside of its setting
[19:40] <Goliath> PEOPLE FIX KNETWORKMANAGER. IT SHOWS NO WIRELESS NETWORKS. I HAD TO SWITCH TO WICD OR CONNECT FROM CLI. THANKS
[19:42] <Goliath> sorry for caps
[20:58] <browserice> can someone help me configure my Kubuntu 10.04LTS to use the ATI proprietary drivers ?   I followed a tutorial and I am having compiling error
[21:05] <browserice> is anyone available to help me with an Xorg.conf problem ?
[21:07] <Linkmaster> browserice: what is happening exactly?
[21:07] <TheBuntu> whats so good programs to design web pages with ?
[21:08] <browserice> I tried to configure my ATI HD4650 following a tutorial but when it comes to compiling it, I have GCC error. I have a poste with all the details
[21:12] <browserice> Linkmaster, will you help me ?
[21:13] <Linkmaster> link me to the site you used, as well as your post
[21:14] <browserice> ok
[21:14] <oCean> so, in the users&groups administration, where is the 'administrator mode' button supposed to be?
[21:20] <oCean> nvm, figured it out
[21:21] <zMainframe> Hi
[21:22] <zMainframe> running Kubuntu 11.04 and I can not seem to share files via samba when using dolphin.
[21:22] <zMainframe> Should I just manually edit smb.conf and add a user password?
[21:23] <zMainframe> I don't know if somehow dolphin will not pick up the changes or it could make things out of sync.
[21:26] <apachelogger> zMainframe: I think dolphin does not use smb.conf as editing the config manually would be very unreliable
[21:27] <zMainframe> OK.
[21:28] <zMainframe> I can see the shares, but I can't seem to authenticate (I was tail-ing the log files)
[21:28] <zMainframe> I am using winXP to connect.
[21:30] <lcb> TheBuntu: are you ok now? i see your message regarding domain name not opening correctly your site. sorry i had to take a sneak on my real world.
[21:31] <zMainframe> OK, under dolphin, I added a check mark to "Share with Samba" and "Allow Guests"
[21:32] <lcb> Linkmaster: good Eve to you! (hopefully without any Adam)
[21:32] <zMainframe> I can see the Kubuntu box in WinXP, but It won't let me in.
[21:33] <Linkmaster> lcb: hallo there
[21:33] <lcb> :p
[21:38] <lcb> zMainframe: Dolphin | Samba Shares | "workgroup" of your win machine | winXP machine | 'Authorization Dialog' Username [the login name on your XP] Password [the same password you use in there]
[21:39] <zMainframe> Yes
[21:39] <zMainframe> the same unix user id and password is being used to authenticate.
[21:39] <lcb> zMainframe: it should accept though
[21:39] <zMainframe> I just closed Dolphin and opened it again, and none of the share settings are resident.
[21:40] <zMainframe> the check marks are gone, even though I said "OK"
[21:40] <zMainframe> weird.
[21:40] <lcb> zMainframe: did you by any chance gave an incorrect username/pass and now you don't get the login?
[21:40] <zMainframe> no
[21:40] <zMainframe> should I try this with a root dolphin?
[21:40] <lcb> you don't get the login dialog? 'Authorization Dialog'
[21:40] <lcb> noooo
[21:41] <zMainframe> let me verify.
[21:41] <zMainframe> no
[21:41] <lcb> hmm
[21:41] <zMainframe> No Authorization Dialog.
[21:41] <zMainframe> Weird huh.
[21:41] <lcb> do you have bleaCHBIT INSTALLED?
[21:42] <lcb> OOPS, lower caps now
[21:42] <zMainframe> I don't think so.  Do I need it?
[21:42] <lcb> no but
[21:42] <lcb> i use that to make sure i clean all weird remains in my system
[21:43] <zMainframe> I'll get it now
[21:43] <lcb> as administrator and as regular user
[21:43] <lcb> start with regular user then with sudo (in case you don't get the administrator menu entry)
[21:44] <lcb> zMainframe: check first the languages you use in your system, under configuration if i'm not mistaken
[21:45] <zMainframe> Sorry.  I should run bleachit first?
[21:45] <zMainframe> Or check my default KDE languages?
[21:45] <zMainframe> I did recently install japanese language support.
[21:45] <lcb> no. configure it. take a look of the features.
[21:45] <lcb> before you give it a go
[21:46] <lcb> the languages you use must be checked if you check afterwards the option to clean languages. i'm suggest that because sometimes ppl run the cleaner without checking the lang
[21:47] <zMainframe> Languages I have US British(not sure why?) and Japanese.
[21:47] <lcb> zMainframe: default and installed one
[21:48] <lcb> leave the default, doesn't hurt
[21:48] <lcb> and of course the jap one too
[21:49] <zMainframe> So I should uninstall like zimbabwe and all the others first?
[21:49] <lcb> after checking that and while you put a check-mark on the items you want to clean, read what is on the right pan.
[21:49] <lcb> zMainframe: hmmm i don't know why zimbabwe is in there :o
[21:50] <lcb> zMainframe: leave it for now and digg a bit afterwards why you have that lang installed
[21:50] <zMainframe> OK, set the languages now
[21:51] <zMainframe> BTW, I mis-understood, I was looking in the KDE System Locale preferences.
[21:51] <lcb> zMainframe: have in mind the checked ones on the conbfiguration dialog are the ones that will stay
[21:51] <zMainframe> I see what you mean now.
[21:51] <zMainframe> right
[21:52] <jeff_> does anyone know about function keys for laptops...volume specifically
[21:52] <lcb> jeff_: it depends the brand/model you use
[21:53] <asyun> heyyy
[21:53] <asyun> selam
[21:53] <jeff_> gateway (acer) nv73A
[21:54] <zMainframe> lcb, which ones should I check active.
[21:54] <lcb> zMainframe: read the notes on the right pane
[21:55] <jeff_> lcb: gateway (acer) nv73A
[21:55] <lcb> zMainframe: that depends a lot on how you use your system. some ppl like not to rotate the logs, for example.
[21:55] <zMainframe> I understand.  Very nice tool, I've never seen heard about it before.
[21:57] <lcb> zMainframe: i destroyed a system already, with it
[21:57] <lcb> zMainframe: j/kidding
[21:57] <zMainframe> Hahahah!
[21:57] <lcb> well.... could happen
[21:58] <lcb> zMainframe: after that reboot, better do that way.
[21:58] <zMainframe> I will.
[21:58] <zMainframe> Thanks for the help.
[21:58] <lcb> but do it both, as i said before, as regular user and as admi
[21:58] <lcb> admin
[21:58] <zMainframe> I'll run the tool now, and give an update after I reboot.
[21:58] <zMainframe> OK, I'll also do it under sudo
[21:59] <lcb> zMainframe: under admin a lot more "junk" will be removed
[21:59] <jeff_> fixed it, thanks
[21:59] <lcb> jeff_: :) i were looking for a pic of your kb
[21:59] <lcb> oops, gone
[22:01] <zMainframe> OK, rebooting now.
[22:01] <zMainframe> bye
[22:02] <lcb> zMainframe: when coming back, just in case... do sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[22:03] <lcb> wb Linkmaster. how was the trip?
[22:04] <Linkmaster> boring, I was misinformed; I thought I was going to my church soon, but my mom isn't ready
[22:04] <lcb> ohh
[22:05] <Linkmaster> yeah :l
[22:07] <kristina> hi, I rated a bunch of pictures with gwenview, now how do I find all pictures with a certain rating?
[22:07] <lcb>  zMainframe:  just in case... do sudo -i | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install
[22:07] <zMainframe> OK,
[22:08] <lcb> zMainframe: if major upgrade you need to reboot again
[22:09] <lcb> zMainframe: what i'm telling you is what i do when things goes wrong with no virtual explanation. i broke a lot of systems already. so, please  , don't blame me; blame instead whoever wrote the commands/packages :p
[22:10] <zMainframe> Don't worry, I've broken things too :-)
[22:10] <zMainframe> Best way to learn!
[22:10] <lcb> hehehe
[22:10] <lcb> kristina: i'll try to use that package...
[22:11] <zMainframe> no updates
[22:11] <zMainframe> OK, I went back into to dolphin to share the directory via samba.
[22:11] <zMainframe> Still a no go.
[22:12] <kristina> lcb: whut? which package?
[22:12] <lcb> zMainframe: just in case too.. have in mind ... 'sudo dpkg reconfigure package' also helps, at times. the only thing is - you might lose some settings and need to reconfigure it again
[22:12] <zMainframe> right
[22:13] <zMainframe> I've done that before... in the good old days...can't tell you how many times I used to break X
[22:13] <lcb> kristina: gwenview. i'll try to do the scenario you want.
[22:13] <lcb> that's what i mean..
[22:14] <lcb> zMainframe: i changed all my Xs to Z, hopping there is no more space left to break it again.
[22:14] <zMainframe> I think I'm going to drop Dolphin, and just manually edit smb.conf
[22:14] <kristina> lcb: uhm not sure, couldn't find an option to filter the pictures with a certain rating
[22:15] <zMainframe> hahahaha!
[22:15] <lcb> zMainframe: why, didn't resolve? you still don't get the login dialog?
[22:15] <zMainframe> no
[22:15] <lcb> geez
[22:15] <zMainframe> really strange huh.
[22:15] <zMainframe> I know, kpackage and everything else asks.
[22:15] <lcb> try reconfiguring samba w/ dpkg
[22:16] <zMainframe> tried to install AMOR with kpackage and got the dialog.
[22:16] <lcb> zMainframe: let me see what i have with my samba normal (graphical) configurations. i know i get the default "workgroup" and the name of my own workgroup
[22:17] <Linkmaster> what does '-p' mean in the command 'mkdir -p $HOME/blah/blahblah' ? and I believe that $HOME is equivilant to ~, correct?
[22:17] <zMainframe> Is there a global place for samba settings?
[22:18] <zMainframe> Some where under "System Settings" perhaps?
[22:18] <BATi> Linkmaster: -p means "create parent dirs too if they don't exist" and correct
[22:18] <lcb> Linkmaster: -p is to make parent dirs..
[22:18] <zMainframe> Yup, -p is for parent.
[22:18] <lcb> zMainframe: hold on
[22:19] <zMainframe> k
[22:19] <Linkmaster> Thanks guys, its the first time I've seen the tag, and I wanted to make sure it didn't do something wonky
[22:19] <lcb> Linkmaster: in terminal, type $ man Linkmaster :p
[22:19] <Linkmaster> ....>.>
[22:19] <zMainframe> yw.
[22:19] <lcb> hehehe
[22:20] <Linkmaster> Why do I get the feeling that I totally shouldn't trust you? :P
[22:20] <lcb> man mkdir
[22:20] <lcb> Linkmaster: since the time you made my brand new computer a toaster
[22:20] <Linkmaster> your not supposed to tell people about that
[22:20]  * Linkmaster has shifty eyes
[22:20] <lcb> oops
[22:21] <BATi> lcb: cool, did it make at least a nice toasts? :D
[22:21] <lcb> zMainframe: let me see where those things are. but if you syte samba on the search box on the global settings you get the config places
[22:21] <lcb> syte/type
[22:21] <lcb> BATi: hehehe
[22:23] <zMainframe> OK, I found samba status
[22:23] <lcb> BATi: i were kidding. in fact is a microwave oven now. and i'm pretty sure next time i use one of Linkmaster under-the-shelf commands that one will become an aquarium.
[22:23]  * BATi once tried to cook an egg on a cooler of heavily overclocked K6 :)
[22:24] <lcb> BATi: don't try it in a microwave...
[22:24] <lcb> zMainframe: you have more than that. well i'll check it here, what i have. then kristina issue
[22:26] <BATi> lcb: oh yeah, but putting MS windows CDs into microwave have a nice artistic value
[22:26] <zMainframe> http://maketecheasier.com/easy-samba-sharing-setup-with-kde/2010/11/17
[22:27] <zMainframe> I don't seem to get the "configure file sharing" on as a diaglog on the screen
[22:27] <lcb> zMainframe: under network and connectivity you have Sharing... i didn't touch nothing in there tough
[22:27] <zMainframe> Network and Conn. is blank for me as well
[22:28] <lcb> zMainframe: go for it. configure samba.conf . does't hurt
[22:28] <lcb> the hard way...
[22:28] <zMainframe> yeah, I think thats what I'll have to do.  Something is broken, and I have not idea what.
[22:28] <BATi> zMainframe: network and connectivity in kcontrolcenter is empty?
[22:29] <zMainframe> BATI: under the Sharing icon, Default username and password are empty
[22:29] <zMainframe> sorry, i should have clairfied.
[22:30] <lcb> kristina: hold a sec... pls. let me try to help myself learning a bit more while helping zMainframe
[22:30] <lcb> zMainframe: sudo apt-get install kdenetwork-filesharing libsmbclient samba samba smbclient
[22:30] <zMainframe> k
[22:31] <zMainframe> nothing to install.
[22:31] <lcb> sudo smbpasswd
[22:31] <zMainframe> I have it, apt said.
[22:31] <BATi> zMainframe: good, those are used nly when browsing samba network... you want to share linux to win machine, right? sorry, wasn't here and have short backlog
[22:31] <lcb> your linux one...
[22:31] <lcb> zMainframe: ur linux one
[22:31] <zMainframe> BATi : no problem.
[22:32] <zMainframe> right, I can create a smbpasswd, for myself
[22:32] <lcb> zMainframe: then... sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[22:32] <zMainframe> let me see if it works.
[22:32] <lcb> wait...
[22:32] <lcb> do that 1st
[22:32] <BATi> zMainframe: so, you want to access a share on windows or access linux share from windows?
[22:33] <zMainframe> BATi:  Access linux share via samba from windows.
[22:33] <lcb> zMainframe: under [DATA] path = /home/linux_user/Documents
[22:33] <BATi> zMainframe: and right clicking folder, selecting properties and sharing tab does not work?
[22:34] <lcb> zMainframe: browseable = yes (and) writeable = yes
[22:34] <lcb> zMainframe: Save it (CTLR+X then Y then ENTER)
[22:35] <lcb> zMainframe: sudo service nmbd restart && sudo service smbd restart
[22:35] <zMainframe> k
[22:35] <heinkel_111> i had a X freeze up while downloading new kernel updates with sudo apt-get update command (packages linux-image-2.6.32-32-generic linux-image-generic linux-generic)
[22:35] <lcb> zMainframe: what is your other machine? XP?
[22:35] <zMainframe> let me edit
[22:35] <zMainframe> xp sp3
[22:36] <heinkel_111> can I do apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.32-32-generic linux-image-generic linux-generic
[22:36] <heinkel_111> or will it remove the installed versions ie the ones that are older
[22:36] <lcb> smb://<IP_ADDRESS>/ on the location bar of the explorer, zMainframe
[22:36] <heinkel_111> since these are metapackages i guess
[22:36] <lcb> or the ip you have of the linux box...
[22:37] <lcb> heinkel_111: sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean <> or use synaptic
[22:38] <heinkel_111> lcb, thank you
[22:38] <zMainframe> sorry, had to make the edits
[22:38] <zMainframe> OK, going to test, and yes I used the ipaddress
[22:38] <lcb> zMainframe: don't worry, i still have about 50 yrs ahead
[22:38] <heinkel_111> i like to try to understand apt-get for fun, but i had to ask someone for confidence in this case
[22:39] <heinkel_111> removing the linux kernels sounds a little drastic, do not want to cause problems :)
[22:39] <lcb> heinkel_111: you might have the leftovers mentioned on synaptic
[22:39] <zMainframe> OK, got it work.
[22:39] <zMainframe> I know the error too.
[22:40] <lcb> heinkel_111: so, if you don't feel confortable on hand coding... use the graphical one :p
[22:40] <zMainframe> I think that Dolphin does not create a smbpasswd.
[22:41] <zMainframe> OK, weird, I dont' see the smbpassword file.
[22:41] <lcb> zMainframe: but can you see your linux machine now, from the xp?
[22:42] <zMainframe> lcb, yes
[22:42] <zMainframe> BTW, how do you highlight a persons nick?
[22:43] <Scunizi> zMainframe, type part of their nick and hit tab for autocompletion then say what you want to them
[22:43] <lcb> zMainframe: In Dolphin  you can right click a folder, then select properties, click Share tab. From there you share any folder  but you might need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf in case you couldn’t write into shared folders. So you will need to remove the line ‘guest ok = yes’ to force asking for the username and password when accessing the shared folders.
[22:44] <zMainframe> lcb: I'm going to remove the [DATA] entry now
[22:44] <zMainframe> restart samba and see if I can share it still
[22:44] <zMainframe> I want to know if it was smb.conf or smbpasswd that fixed it.
[22:45] <lcb> zMainframe: at this point you might see some smoke from the cd tray already. don't worry. samba is cooking
[22:45] <zMainframe> hahaha!
[22:46] <lcb> zMainframe: to highlight a nick, on quassel, go to Settings | F7| Interface | Highlight ...
[22:47] <zMainframe> actually I'm using opera...hahahaha...I clicked the link and it opened.  I was actually surprised.  I didn't know opera could do IRC.
[22:48] <zMainframe> OK,
[22:48] <zMainframe> lcb: I shared another directory from Dolphin.  Guess what didn't work.
[22:48] <zMainframe> lcb: I'll unshare in dolphin and now add to samba
[22:53] <alex_portugal> I need informations... anyone?
[22:53] <lcb> sim, espera...
[22:54] <alex_portugal> ok
[22:54] <lcb> kristina: a bit more complicated so.. check this http://goo.gl/MJZy3
[22:54] <zMainframe> lcb: I think dolphin is broken in kubuntu 11.04
[22:54] <kristina> lcb: thanks a lot
[22:54] <alkafoo> how to swap konqueror in KDE's menu for firefox?
[22:54] <zMainframe> at least the share part
[22:55] <lcb> kristina: sorry for the delay...
[22:55] <lcb> zMainframe: hmm doubt it..
[22:56] <lcb> zMainframe: do you have gnome/kde/unity/etc mixed in there? just curious
[22:57] <lcb> alex_portugal: are you ok with englixh?
[22:57] <lcb> english :p
[22:57] <alex_portugal> yep
[22:57] <lcb> so point and shoot. i don't know if i could help...
[22:59] <alex_portugal> when a try to send email (with Kmail) with a file attached the email is not sent !
[22:59] <lcb> zMainframe: not firewall / router filtering packages in there?
[22:59] <lcb> alex_portugal: hmm i'm using thunderbird, but let me ask mr and mrs google
[23:00] <BATi> alkafoo: if you mean favorities (first "page" of kde menu), then right clicking on konqueror, removing it, finding firefox (applications/internet), right clicking it and choosing add to favorites...
[23:00] <alex_portugal> sorry im using thindirbird!
[23:00] <zMainframe> lcb: nope
[23:00] <alex_portugal> 'thuderbird'
[23:01] <lcb> ohh.. ok. that's strange. let me see if any config option is enabled/disabled in there
[23:01] <alex_portugal> 'thunderbird'
[23:01] <zMainframe> lcb: did another test.  I get reproducible results when using smb.conf
[23:01] <zMainframe> lcb: samba works.
[23:01] <lcb> zMainframe: you mean log?
[23:01] <lcb> ahh
[23:01] <zMainframe> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=3116588.0
[23:01] <zMainframe> lcb: in the post rcrosby had the same problem
[23:02] <lcb> see if they have a solution in there, zMainframe
[23:02]  * lcb opening thunderB
[23:02] <alex_portugal> ok
[23:03] <alex_portugal> i have three email accounts from sapo and gmail.
[23:03] <alkafoo> BATi: dang, I thought I tried that =P thanks
[23:03] <lcb> alex_portugal: in meanwhile, are you dropping the attachment and it stays in there?
[23:04] <alex_portugal> that's it!
[23:04] <BATi> alkafoo: you're wellcome...
[23:06] <lcb> alex_portugal: all those accounts with the same problem?
[23:06] <alex_portugal> Yes!
[23:07] <zMainframe> kcb
[23:07] <zMainframe> lcb: might be missing a module
[23:07] <lcb> alex_portugal: and this is happening only now? are those first time used?
[23:07] <zMainframe> lcb:  what do you get when you type:  kdesudo kcmshell4 fileshare
[23:07] <alex_portugal> No...
[23:08] <alex_portugal> Im trying using kubuntu!
[23:08] <alex_portugal> its the first time !
[23:08] <alex_portugal> And i love it!
[23:08] <zMainframe> alex_portugal: congratulations!!
[23:08] <alex_portugal> but this problems when im sending....
[23:08] <lcb> zMainframe: "Could not find module 'fileshare'. See kcmshell4 --list for the full list of modules."
[23:09] <lcb> zMainframe: but mine is sharing ok
[23:09] <zMainframe> lcb: thats what I got too
[23:09] <lcb> alex_portugal: i'm trying to see what's going on
[23:09] <alex_portugal> My server name is: smtp.sapo.pt
[23:09] <zMainframe> lcb: http://maketecheasier.com/easy-samba-sharing-setup-with-kde/2010/11/17
[23:09] <alex_portugal> port: 587
[23:09] <TheBuntu> lcb: if type in http://localhost it open the html file in var/www.... but put in the the host name that i registered with the dyndns... it says Server not found
[23:09] <zMainframe> I think something is missing maybe
[23:10] <alex_portugal> Connection security: STARTTLS
[23:10] <zMainframe> I'll do some detective work.
[23:10] <alex_portugal> Authentication method: Normal password
[23:10] <lcb> alex_portugal: if it was sending ok it doesn't matter.. unless you changed in meanwhile account settings..
[23:10] <alex_portugal> no
[23:10] <lcb> alex_portugal: if you did better tell . don't worry, we'll go over it
[23:10] <alex_portugal> when i send no attached files its everything ok
[23:11] <lcb> TheBuntu: wait a bit pls. that's not a prob
[23:12] <TheBuntu> lcb: k
[23:14] <lcb> alex_portugal: i don't see any config settings that might prevent attachments from going. no thunderbird (or firefox since it might interfeer w/thunder also) installed right before the issue started?
[23:14] <alex_portugal> no
[23:15] <lcb> hmm. but look, that's not a kubuntu issue, as far as i know... wait..
[23:17] <alex_portugal> what can i do? I already search all google!
[23:17] <alex_portugal> and guess what... no response!
[23:19] <lcb> alex_portugal: the progress indicator stops at certain point or no sending the att at all?
[23:20] <alex_portugal> 40% +-
[23:20] <lcb> alex_portugal: try to send from one acc to othet of your accounts a very small att
[23:21] <alex_portugal> thats work!
[23:21] <lcb> othet/other
[23:21] <alex_portugal> i have already tried!
[23:21] <lcb> hmm
[23:21] <lcb> great. hold
[23:22] <lcb> alex_portugal: any anti-virus running or any other package that scans the att before it goes to www?
[23:22] <alex_portugal> no
[23:22] <lcb> sure?
[23:22] <alex_portugal> Wallet??!!!
[23:23] <alex_portugal> no antivirus running!
[23:23] <lcb> no, wallet is for pass/s
[23:23] <alex_portugal> ok
[23:24] <lcb> well, alex_portugal. did kde wallet finished successfully before thunder sending/receiving anything? isn't any dialog open somewhere?
[23:24] <zMainframe> going to take a break.  b back l8r
[23:24] <alex_portugal> no
[23:24] <lcb> zMainframe: k. reboot that machine
[23:24] <alex_portugal> nothing
[23:25] <TheBuntu> lcb: 1 ? right now... im supost to have  /etc/hosts right
[23:25] <lcb> TheBuntu: if you used a dynamic host you don't really need to touch in there
[23:26] <lcb> dyndns, i mean ... only the smell is different
[23:26] <TheBuntu> ok... cause there's no ip in it
[23:26] <lcb> TheBuntu: where?
[23:26] <lcb> alex_portugal: in a worry?
[23:27] <alex_portugal> no
[23:27] <lcb> good. TheBuntu give me your dyndns url
[23:27] <lcb> domain
[23:28] <TheBuntu> the name i registered right
[23:28] <lcb> can you give it in private?
[23:28] <TheBuntu> yes
[23:28] <lcb> don't worry, i'm not in a day of hacking
[23:29] <alkafoo> anybody tell me how to replace Dragon Player with VLC?
[23:29] <TheBuntu> i cant figure out how to get konversation to priv chat
[23:30] <lcb> TheBuntu: /query lcb
[23:37] <lcb> alex_portugal: The delays caused by scanning outbound messages, especially with large attachments, can cause the transmission to time out
[23:37] <lcb> alex_portugal: so... hmm.
[23:37] <alex_portugal> ok thanks
[23:37] <lcb> alex_portugal: use the compact data option
[23:37] <alex_portugal> ok
[23:38] <lcb> try that
[23:38] <alex_portugal> i will try
[23:38] <alex_portugal> Tnhanks
[23:38] <lcb> wait
[23:38] <alex_portugal> Thanks
[23:38] <alex_portugal> yep
[23:38] <lcb> alex_portugal: but you said you are not using anything that is scanning ur msgs
[23:38] <alex_portugal> yep
[23:39] <lcb> so that might not be a problem. however have that in mnd; is good to compact data anyway
[23:39] <lcb> mnd/mind
[23:39] <lcb> let me tweak more on your prob
[23:40] <alex_portugal> ok
[23:42] <lcb> alex_portugal: can you try error console and see if there is any error while sending?
[23:42] <lcb> like connection timeout
[23:42] <alex_portugal> wait...
[23:43] <lcb> alex_portugal: Tools | Error Console
[23:44] <alex_portugal> smtp.sapo.pt : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555
[23:44] <TheBuntu> lcb: cant find where the ports are
[23:44] <alex_portugal> what can i do?
[23:46] <lcb> alex_portugal: wait.. (checking how to solve that locally) i think that provider has the software outdated, which is weird
[23:46] <alex_portugal> ok i wait
[23:47] <lcb> "The error message is just a warning. The connection will still be established and retrieve your mail. Your problem not getting as many messages as you think you should, or of the mail not being on the server or in TB is unrelated to the warning message."
[23:47] <lcb> or sending.. for that case
[23:51] <lcb> alex_portugal: try resetting the certificates that might being used by the e-mail client (isp/organizations, etc)
[23:52] <lcb> alex_portugal: under SSL Preferences
[23:52] <alex_portugal> ok
[23:52] <alex_portugal> ...
[23:52] <lcb> alex_portugal:  understand?
[23:52] <alex_portugal> yes!
[23:52] <alex_portugal> thanks
[23:54] <alex_portugal> Where is the SSL Preferences?
[23:54] <lcb> something is preventing or slowing down  your mails to go. you don't use any firewall; you didn't change any settings on thunder or firefox; nothing fancy done right before that happen - so.... certificates might be a cause of the problem . don't know if it is the solution tough
[23:55] <lcb> too bad there is no thunder support in here :o
[23:56] <lcb> alex_portugal: open System Settings, then write on the search box (top right) SSL
[23:58] <alex_portugal> And now?
[23:58] <lcb> TheBuntu: solved?
[23:59] <TheBuntu> cant find ports


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[16:10] <charlie-tca> I am trying the crashes in dasher again today
[16:11] <maco> dasher confuses me
[16:11] <maco> i tried it once, and it doesnt seem to be all that accurate about heading toward the letter i'm on top of. also, i couldnt figure out how to get it to put the letters i was chasing into the text box that had focus
[16:12] <Pendulum> maco: you need to start it from command line with dasher -a direct to get it to do direct input
[16:12] <maco> Pendulum: i did
[16:12] <Pendulum> huh
[16:12] <charlie-tca> Iam trying to use it
[16:13] <maco> i thought maybe after ive finished the word there's something undocumented that i have to do to tell it to splat that out?
[16:13] <maco> also, omg the letters fly around so fast i cant chase them
[16:13] <charlie-tca> it is not crashing for me
[16:14] <maco> are they supposed to all be lined up? the way you described it before, Pendulum, i thought itd be like a tag cloud style thing of letters
[16:14] <charlie-tca> change the speed numbers to smaller numbers
[16:15] <charlie-tca> they wont line up like you think
[16:15] <charlie-tca> and I can not get the punctuation working right
[16:16] <Pendulum> charlie-tca: what's your problem with punctuation?
[16:16] <maco> i just chased down "All" and then there's a box, which i assume is space, but still, nothing's being put into where my text cursor is
[16:16] <charlie-tca> apostrophes don't print
[16:16] <maco> i tried clicking the letters to tell it "no really this one!" but that just seems to pause it
[16:17] <charlie-tca> instead of clicking, point at the next letter you want in the same colored box
[16:17] <maco> same coloured box?
[16:17] <maco> they appear to be nested coloured boxes
[16:18] <maco> ive tried both with clicking and with just chasing
[16:18] <Pendulum> maco: what're you trying to input in?
[16:18] <Pendulum> *into
[16:18] <charlie-tca> If you are in a blue box for "h", don't go outside the blue to find the next letter. It should be another colored box inside that blue box
[16:18] <maco> vi
[16:18] <maco> in a gtk based terminal, not a qt one
[16:18] <charlie-tca> Pendulum: apostrophes and returns in xchat are failing to show
[16:19] <charlie-tca> this has a high lerningcurve
[16:20] <Pendulum> Attmittedly, I'm still on Maverick, but was mostly work for me
[16:21] <Pendulum> (until it crashed, but I suspect if I upgraded my dasher that wouldn't be a problem)
[16:21] <maco> im on maverick too
[16:21] <Pendulum> *working
[16:21] <charlie-tca> italso takes a lot of reen for me to use it
[16:21] <maco> is it supposed to input the letters as i chase them?
[16:22] <maco> or when it gets to a space, or what?
[16:22] <Pendulum> yes
[16:22] <Pendulum> as you chase them
[16:22] <maco> im trying in gedit now
[16:22] <maco> oh hm. do i need to have at-spi registryd going?
[16:22] <Pendulum> < Pendulum> Attmittedly, I'm still on Maverick, but was mostly work for me
[16:22] <Pendulum> ^^ was written in Dasher
[16:23] <charlie-tca> i am on natty Xubuntu
[16:23] <maco> kvkbd doesnt need it, so i didnt think dasher would, but maybe on screen keyboards do?
[16:23] <maco> or rather, *some* on screen keyboard?
[16:23] <charlie-tca> I think you do need at-spi registryd, but can't remember
[16:25] <charlie-tca> Pendulum: the latest version of dasher does work better
[16:26] <Pendulum> charlie-tca: I assumed as much. I've just been distracted by life stuff so not upgraded anything at all recently really
[16:27] <charlie-tca> understandable. I worked some trying to reproduce the crashes, and even tried the version in git
[16:27] <charlie-tca> For me, dasher in natty has the least crashes
[16:32] <charlie-tca> Back to writeing minutes from the meeting
[16:40] <charlie-tca> Pendulum: help? I clicked something that made dasher full screen and had to kill it from a tty
[16:41] <charlie-tca> how do I make it not full screen?
[16:41] <charlie-tca> lol
[16:41] <charlie-tca> What a deal ;-)
[16:43] <Pendulum> that I have no idea on
[16:43] <Pendulum> I've never made it fullscreen
[16:43] <charlie-tca> don t
[16:44] <charlie-tca> It is not usable, since you can't see anything but dasher and can't change the app it is inputting to
[16:44] <Pendulum> yeah
[20:16] <jono> charlie-tca, Pendulum hey
[20:16] <jono> would you be interested in doing a Q+A about Accessibility?
[20:16] <jono> we have these Friday Q+A sessions
[20:16] <jono> would either of you like to do it/
[20:16] <jono> ?
[20:16] <jono> it would be on a Friday at 9.30am Pac time
[20:17] <Pendulum> charlie-tca: be interested in co-doing it with me?
[20:17] <charlie-tca> sure
[20:17] <charlie-tca> What friday?
[20:17] <Pendulum> jono: what friday?
[20:17] <jono> Pendulum, 17th June
[20:18] <charlie-tca> Pendulum: good for me
[20:18] <jono> would you like to do it togehter?
[20:18] <Pendulum> jono: yeah, I think if we do it together, it's probably best
[20:18] <jono> perfect
[20:18] <jono> thanks!
[20:31]  * phillw asks what 09:30 Pac time is in UTC?
[20:31] <Pendulum> phillw: 16:30 UTC
[20:32] <phillw> thanks :)
[20:33] <charlie-tca> huh?
[20:34] <charlie-tca> 15:30, isn't it?
[20:34] <charlie-tca> it's 19:35 UTC now
[20:43]  * phillw hmmm... can we decide? I'm terrible at TZ's :P
[20:44] <Pendulum> 9:30 Pac time is 12:30 Eastern and 16:30 UTC
[20:49] <phillw> 17:30 BST = 16:30 UTC, as long as I know - I turned up an hour late for a classroom session - worst bit was, I was holding!
[20:53] <charlie-tca> try this one - http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html
[20:55] <maco> jono: there's a pattern to when these Q&As happen? id had teh impression it was "when jono says something in #ubuntu-community-team, followed by everyone else going 'huh?'" :P
[20:56] <jono> maco, no pattern
[20:56] <jono> well, there is a pattern, every week
[20:56] <jono> but no pattern in terms of topics
[21:32] <phillw> charlie-tca: I have it on my task-bar - the only way I can keep in sync with people!
[21:34] <charlie-tca> That's why I use orage world clock. I have 18 timezones on my desktop
[21:36] <charlie-tca> phillw: http://imagebin.org/156515
[21:36] <charlie-tca> Takes 1/2 inch across the top of my screen
[21:39] <phillw> Pendulum: are you mad busy?
[21:43] <Pendulum> phillw: not mad busy at the moment, no, but I'm a little tired so my brain may not be fully working
[21:44] <phillw> I'll be gentle :)
[22:59] <phillw> charlie-tca: you have mail :)
[23:22] <charlie-tca> Thank you. will be happy to advise


[04:08] <Unit193> xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin, xfce4-verve-plugin, and xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin uploaded too.
[11:28] <bluesabre> we'll probably need to fix this pre-release or with an SRU, https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/catfish/+bug/1501565
[11:29] <bluesabre> If we can test this easily (create a test user, make sure they are not in sudoers), that'd be cool
[12:00] <slickymasterWork> bluesabre, checked and confirmed on RC image
[12:00] <slickymasterWork> do you want to add anything to that report?
[12:00] <slickymasterWork> + me
[12:05] <bluesabre> slickymasterWork: just that it also affects ubuntu
[12:05] <bluesabre> gotta run, bbl
[12:41] <flocculant> slickymasterWork bluesabre - commented in that report
[12:47] <flocculant> sent the users and invite to testing :p
[13:06] <tracker9> flashing green bar to tell you where to type then
[13:09] <flocculant> installing to ssd is so quick that the enter for the next comment from tracker9 became the restart after install :p
[13:10] <flocculant> jjfrv8: I tried to make that affect catfish(ubuntu) but it wouldn't find it :(
[13:32] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, bluesabre, added my to the bug. It's now confirmed
[13:36] <flocculant> ta
[15:18] <flocculant> knome: yep - I'll probably just do new ones - easier than fiddling with the old ones
[15:42] <flocculant> knome: also - if we want to take the contribute/qa page back to something more basic - I've transferred it to wiki and we could have wiki/Xubuntu/Testing/page there
[16:39] <flocculant> dkessel: if you get time - can you check the iso you have and that failed install - cheers
[16:53] <dkessel> flocculant: currently running another installation with the same medium. checked the iso MD5, ran the image selftest...
[16:57] <dkessel> btw: should there be a battery status icon (from xfpm or something) during the install?
[17:02] <flocculant> not sure tbh - only thing I have with a battery *needs* to be connected to mains ...
[17:03] <flocculant> !team
[17:04] <flocculant> can anyone confirm an issue with catfish - unlock database - hangs updating
[17:04] <flocculant> didn't ask password either
[17:05] <dkessel> flocculant: nope, asks for password
[17:05] <dkessel> and updates
[17:05] <dkessel> not a clean install though
[17:05] <flocculant> ok cool :)
[17:06] <flocculant> just checked with live too
[17:06] <slickymasterWork> give me sec flocculant
[17:06] <dkessel> yeah, live works here, too.
[17:07] <dkessel> mhhh i guess i will close that kernel bug if another install goes through without kernel panic
[17:08] <flocculant> dkessel: ack - I installed that to hardware a few hours ago - infinity was a tad perturbed I guess
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> flocculant: no seeing it either
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> RC image
[17:09] <slickymasterWork> it did ask for the password and finished the database update
[17:13] <flocculant> k - thanks both :)
[17:13] <flocculant> obviously broken it here :p
[17:20] <slickymasterWork> that's because you're the QA lead :P
[17:21] <flocculant> hah
[17:32] <flocculant> ochosi: mousepad view - I see where that's set y default settings - but where does the 'colour' for the highlight when you search come from?
[17:33] <flocculant> slightly older people might welcome a change - hard to see what you've Ctrl+F'd as it it
[17:33] <drc> As one of those...+2 :)
[17:34] <flocculant> blame bluesabre for "Usability bug reports are fair game" ... ;)
[17:34] <flocculant> hi drc :)
[17:34] <drc> Hey flocculant
[17:35] <drc> Yeah, He appears to have developed pronounced sado-machocistic tendencies :)
[17:35] <flocculant> :D
[17:39] <drc> ochosi: re: mousepad highlight color...just a tad darker, just enough to see it more distinctly.
[17:41] <dkessel> hah! now after installing, i have that exact same catfish freeze, flocculant
[17:43] <dkessel> flocculant: if you run "catfish -v" in a terminal, you will likely see an "UnboundLocalError: local variable 'password' referenced before assignment
[17:43] <dkessel> also, bluesabre ^
[17:49] <slickymasterWork> let me check that dkessel
[17:52] <slickymasterWork> nopes, dkessel
[17:52] <slickymasterWork> still working as expected
[17:52] <drc> Doesn't the user have to be non-sudoer?
[17:53] <drc> IIRC from the log.
[17:54] <dkessel> slickymasterWork: well flocculant and me can reproduce it :p i couldn't reproduce it on this old installation here, either, or on the live image. but on the fresh installation, it happened two times now
[17:55] <flocculant> bluesabre: http://pastebin.com/YLwjtn5D
[17:56] <flocculant> first run with -v it asked for password and ran, second run without the -v it hangs unlocking
[17:56] <flocculant> dkessel: well that's odd - with verbose it worked
[17:56] <slickymasterWork> drc, that one is bug 1501565
[17:56] <slickymasterWork> a different
[17:56] <slickymasterWork> one
[17:57] <dkessel> i understand that it might be timing related from the log
[17:57] <dkessel> well, i have DE locale
[17:58] <dkessel> yeah, but that's a different one
[17:58] <slickymasterWork> what I find odd is the fact that I'm not getting it
[17:59] <flocculant> yea
[18:00] <slickymasterWork> do you want any special info on my box setup, flocculant?
[18:00] <slickymasterWork> it's a clean RC image though
[18:20] <flocculant> slickymaster: no - unless we ask
[18:40] <slickymaster> oki doke
[18:41] <flocculant> by we *we* :p
[18:41] <flocculant> I mean
[18:42] <slickymaster> ... mean...
[18:42] <slickymaster> ?!
[18:42] <flocculant> by we I mean *we* :p
[18:43]  * slickymaster is lost re who the hell we might be :P
[18:43] <flocculant> well we doesn't include me :p
[18:43] <slickymaster> heh
[18:44] <flocculant> but bluesabre most likely or someone more codelike in the team
[18:44]  * slickymaster is at their service
[18:45] <flocculant> :)
[19:11] <Unit193> Ahh, got my coffee.  Nice warm beverage, though does taste a tad off.
[19:13] <flocculant> try milk instead of youghurt
[19:14] <Unit193> Nooo, black.
[19:17] <flocculant> slickymaster: so in a vm installed from RC then updated - catfish crunches, running with -v in a vm - no different at all
[19:18] <flocculant> so that's odd
[19:19] <slickymaster> yeas
[19:19] <slickymaster> I won't touch the installation I have in case bluesabre will want any info/data out of it
[19:20] <flocculant> well it fails here too
[19:27] <flocculant> sigh - this is why I'm right to bring package testing back
[19:28] <slickymaster> well dinner time for me
[19:29] <flocculant> k
[19:29] <flocculant> gonna do a clean hardware install
[19:30] <Unit193> Open Catfish → Gear Icon → Update index  ?
[19:30] <flocculant> Unit193: failing for you?
[19:31] <Unit193> Works fine™
[19:31] <flocculant> and all updated
[19:31] <Unit193> Well, not technically, didn't run it today yet but yesterday was.
[19:31] <Unit193> Installed: 1.3.3-0ubuntu1
[19:32] <Unit193> This is a system upgrade, amd64.
[19:32] <flocculant> yea - just wonder if this is caused by other recent updates
[19:33] <Unit193> Oh hah, nevermind.  It is broken, yes.
[19:33] <flocculant> ok cool
[19:33] <flocculant> in a manner of speaking
[19:33] <Unit193> unit193    2688  0.0  0.1  12464  2684 pts/10   S+   15:29   0:00          |   |   \_ bash /usr/bin/catfish
[19:34] <Unit193> unit193    2689  0.7  2.7<PHONE_NUMBER>8 pts/10   Sl+  15:29   0:02          |   |       \_ python3 /usr/share/catfish/bin/catfish.py
[19:34] <Unit193> root      2718  0.0  0.1  58796  3636 pts/14   Ss+  15:29   0:00          |   |           \_ /usr/bin/sudo updatedb
[19:34] <flocculant> Unit193: but running catfish -v works?
[19:36] <Unit193> Still  UnboundLocalError: local variable 'password' referenced before assignment
[19:37] <flocculant> aah, now that's failing here
[19:38] <flocculant> which is now weirder
[19:38] <flocculant> how does something that was working 10 minutes ago - not work now
[19:39] <dkessel> well that's typical for a timing related bug :)
[19:40] <flocculant> dkessel: awesome timing - waits till Unit193 starts talking and suddenly fails :p
[19:40] <dkessel> he must be pushing the button right over there
[19:40] <flocculant> heh
[19:41] <flocculant> dkessel: did that install work btw?
[19:41] <knome> flocculant, re: website, i think it's better to have the new stuff there until we have a sensible and sustainable place for the developer documentation...
[19:41] <knome> flocculant, and now as you have poked docbook a little - let me remind you that one option is to create another set of documentation in docbook for contributors
[19:41] <flocculant> okey doke - just thought I would mention that
[19:41] <knome> flocculant, with all kinds of silly pdf output formats
[19:42] <dkessel> flocculant: oh yeah it did. invalidated that bug. i guess the sd card broke somehow. i can't write anything anymore to it now. so maybe the sd card was the cause
[19:42] <flocculant> knome: ok - and put it where?
[19:42] <flocculant> dkessel: ok - thanks :)
[19:42] <knome> flocculant, can be on the website, on a subdomain, can be shipped with the system -
[19:42] <knome> flocculant, no limits there, whatever we feel is the best place for it
[19:43] <flocculant> knome: so what we've got in docbook?
[19:43] <knome> flocculant, our documentation
[19:43] <knome> flocculant, which you have just recently poked...
[19:43] <flocculant> sorry - lack of punctuation didn't help then at all :p
[19:43] <knome> ahah
[19:44] <flocculant> I meant - what we've got on website - but in docbook :)
[19:44] <knome> flocculant, well, yes and no - the website should still probably have the very basics
[19:44] <knome> flocculant, but the docbook stuff could be a full guide to silly things
[19:44] <flocculant> right
[19:45] <knome> flocculant, and one good thing about it would be that we could write an appendix about using bzr and launchpad
[19:45] <knome> flocculant, and then simply cross-reference to it whenever we need to
[19:45] <flocculant> ack
[19:45] <flocculant> happy to start looking at that
[19:45] <knome> flocculant, not that we can't do that with the website or wiki, but you know how messy it gets
[19:45] <flocculant> yea
[19:45] <knome> flocculant, so - that's just one option - and the argument that "docbook is hard BOOHOO" stays :P
[19:46] <flocculant> ha ha
[19:46] <knome> (it isn't, but it's of course more than editing a wiki)
[19:46] <flocculant> well
[19:46] <flocculant> these things are generally pita to start - person coming along after has it easyish
[19:47] <knome> we have the process ready in docs
[19:47] <flocculant> do we?
[19:47] <knome> yeah, of course :D
[19:47] <flocculant> never seen it
[19:47] <knome> we *are* exporting to html and pdf from docbook
[19:48] <knome> i mean the technical process :P
[19:48] <knome> so there's not too much to do when starting
[19:48] <knome> except a lot of writing...
[19:48] <flocculant> oic - thought you meant Processes :D
[19:48] <knome> nnnoope :D
[19:48] <knome> should try to be less ambiguous
[19:49] <flocculant> join the club ...
[19:49] <flocculant> well I can start writing the QA stuff for sure
[19:49] <knome> mh
[19:50] <flocculant> if doing that makes sense for later - then *shrug*
[19:51] <knome> well, good documentation *always* makes sense
[19:51] <knome> maybe no reason to convert it to docbook markup yet
[19:51] <flocculant> not quite what I meant :)
[19:51] <knome> lol
[19:51]  * knome reads ambiguously too
[19:51] <flocculant> ha ha
[19:52] <flocculant> I'll do this anyway, practice
[19:52] <knome> yep, i won't mind
[20:02] <Unit193> flocculant: Yeah this doesn't make sense at all.
[20:03] <flocculant> well I stand no chance at all if you say that :p
[20:04] <Unit193> passwordless_sudo is returning 1, which in theory should make it try to attempt a password dialog box, but alas it doesn't.
[20:12] <Unit193> Logic here doesn't seem to be quite right...
[20:12] <Unit193> Anywho, not my problem, right? :D
[20:14] <knome> totally your problem
[20:14] <knome> at least you seem to be bothered by it much more than i am...
[20:14] <knome> :P
[20:15] <flocculant> :d
[20:15] <flocculant> I'll report this now that it's confirmed
[20:15] <flocculant> just to make bluesabre's evening
[20:16] <Unit193> knome: I was surprised to see catfish even installed. :P
[20:16] <Unit193> apport (2.19.1-0ubuntu3) wily; urgency=medium
[20:16] <Unit193> * Disable Launchpad crash upload for final Ubuntu 15.10.
[20:16] <Unit193> Hmm.
[20:17] <Unit193> flocculant: But, did you run  catfish -v  soon after using `sudo`?
[20:17] <flocculant> Unit193: mmm
[20:17] <Unit193> The exit status of `sudo -n true` is always returning 1, but return p.exitstatus == 1 isn't right. :D
[20:18] <flocculant> possible
[20:19] <flocculant> given where we are - wonder if we'll get this in
[20:19] <flocculant> there is at least a workround - either use sudo somewhere or sudo updatedb
[20:21] <flocculant> oh - perhaps as drc said this is the same bug
[20:21] <knome> flocculant, this time is totally designed for getting bug fixes like this in :)
[20:22] <flocculant> Unit193: are you saying it crashes if sudo used recently or it works if sudo used recently?
[20:22] <flocculant> knome: if it gets fixed in the next day
[20:23] <flocculant> I'd rather release with it than spend hours smoketesting isos on my own on Thursday again
[20:24] <flocculant> currently both catfish and -v are wanting password
[20:24] <flocculant> Unit193: nvm - answered myself :)
[20:25] <flocculant> brb
[20:26] <flocculant> back
[20:28] <knome> yyep
[20:29] <flocculant> confusing myself now
[20:29] <knome> :D
[20:30] <flocculant> so it seems that if catfish is the first thing to want sudo it works
[20:30] <flocculant> but if you've used it prior to catfish it fails
[20:31] <flocculant> Unit193: does that sum up what you've seen?
[20:37] <flocculant> bug 1507765
[20:38] <flocculant> Unit193: if you've data to add to the bug description from what you found above - that'd be good :)
[20:47] <Unit193> "Exit status of 'true' was '1'"  do you see a problem here? :P
[20:47] <flocculant> nope
[20:48] <Unit193> 'true' returning '1', means the program that always exits without any errors exited "with an error"
[20:48] <flocculant> so add it to the bug then
[20:54] <flocculant> night all
[20:58] <Unit193> Anywho, yeah I'm done playing around in the souce there.
[20:58] <knome> souce? sauce?
[21:05] <Unit193> knome: Why aren't you off pinging the right people already!? :P
[23:57] <bluesabre> hey all
[23:57] <knome> hey sean
[23:58]  * bluesabre needs to check the sudo/true/catfish output again it seems
[23:59] <Unit193> Very.