[11:41] <Madpilot> it's just "<adjective> <animal>", and it started from a joke of Mark Shuttleworth's
[11:41] <onkarshinde> That's why I said not sure.
[11:41] <kYotiK> im curious as to who comes up with Ubuntu names and where they get them from..
[11:41] <Trashcan> i figured madpilot
[11:41] <signius> even though i have activated the card amd given it all the SSID and WEP info on th network connections icon it is only allowing me to choose lo and not eth1
[11:41] <wickedpuppy> ask mark
[11:42] <Madpilot> the "why the odd names" response is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkShuttleworth
[11:42] <DMFDSandman> can you connect without the wep on signius?
[11:42] <signius> nope
[11:42] <kYotiK> i think the names hold a lot of linux old schoolers back... for some reason i heard ubuntu and thought newbie.....  heard hoary hedgehog and thought wtf.....    then i said hell with it im gonna try it... other than the shitbrown theme.. its pretty good
[11:42] <kYotiK> heh
[11:42] <DMFDSandman> cause i can, but as soon as i try to activate wep it wont let me on
[11:42] <signius> but i can see access points when i go into the network configuration
[11:43] <LaschW> Will I run into problems using a DVD iso image loop device as a local repository? 2.3GB looks a bit big...
[11:43] <Trashcan> kYotiK : well ubuntu isn't exactly designed for seasoned veterans
[11:43] <[LethAL] > signus, it's propbably because your network is shared/restricted and your adapter is set to open, or vice versa
[11:43] <Trashcan> or else they wouldn't have whittled the install down to 3 steps
[11:43] <[LethAL] > 3 steps?
[11:43] <Trashcan> exaggerating
[11:43] <Trashcan> i didn't bother to count
[11:43] <[LethAL] > Ya
[11:44] <[LethAL] > I use expert anyway
[11:44] <signius> the WLAN is a managed network
[11:44] <[LethAL] > signius, no, the WEP
[11:44] <signius> i have not changed anything on the WLAN
[11:44] <signius> and i am doing the configuration on breezy the same as i did in hoary
[11:44] <signius> ah
[11:44] <[LethAL] > LaschW, 2.3GB is a small DVD ;)
[11:45] <signius> how can i get to them settings ?
[11:45] <crueldragon> how to play vcd with totem?
[11:45] <zoot_> on running: gksudo synaptic, i get the error: Failed to run synaptic as root: Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. ermmm any clue what this exactly means?
[11:45] <[LethAL] > signius, man ifconfig and man iwconfig :)
[11:45] <yuacht> i can't start x since latest upgrade in breezy (yesternight), just gives me a "error 104" and "server caught signal 11"
[11:45] <kYotiK> Trashcan,  well it picked my desktop of choice by default... and thats all it installed with no BS, and i pick what i want from the repos and thats what i get.. lets see that happen with other distros, but still stay bleeding edge side of stable...
[11:45] <LaschW> [LethAL] : I have in mind that there was a size limitation for loop devices, _very_ long time ago..
[11:45] <signius> If i look in hosts it looks like everything is using IPv6
[11:45] <[LethAL] > zoot_, maybe you ran out of disk space?
[11:45] <tinrawat_mix> Who are Thai?
[11:45] <Trashcan> yup kyotik, it's pretty badass without all the hours of console work
[11:45] <signius> i nerver it told to use IPv6 during install
[11:46] <zoot_> [LethAL] :  nope, impossible :)
[11:46] <[LethAL] > signius, no, it's ipv6 ready
[11:46] <kYotiK> Trashcan,  exactly :D
[11:46] <Dreifinger`ziek> Ubuntu 5.10 Final Release is burned!! :P
[11:46] <Trashcan> 'newbie' or not I love it :)
[11:47] <ghb> Any idea why my DVD-ROM only reads at a rate of 500 kb/s? DMA is enabled.
[11:47] <[LethAL] > zoot_, "ls -l .Xauthority" should have rw once in the dashes... check
[11:47] <Trashcan> allow me to ask again: if we're already running breezy preview, do we need to do anything extra or do we just get the updates normally?
[11:47] <[LethAL] > Normal updates
[11:47] <Trashcan> cool cool
[11:47] <kYotiK> i think most people who are old school dont like the new easier to install powerful linux distros cuz they remember when linux was hours and hours of hardwork just to get hardware to be recognized by the OS... and we remember nasty XFree configs
[11:48] <zoot_> [LethAL] : hehe, no .Xauthority
[11:48] <[LethAL] > Ah.
[11:48] <prego> When updating to breezy, will my own built (local development) libsomething.a link agains next compilations or do I have to recompile them all? (because of the Gcc-4 change)
[11:48] <kYotiK> lots of gurus or whatever ya wanna call em like to show their geekieness... they are the kinda people who like to reinvent the wheel just to say they did something.....
[11:48] <ghb> kYotiK: I remember using XFree configuration tool when I tried to install Red Hat 8 or 9 on my old laptop -- it was a pain in the ass!
[11:48] <zoot_> now why not - standard breezy install (with updates) .. will hunt for a template.. not an X guru
[11:49] <Trashcan> exactly kyotik
[11:50] <signius> OK i am going to have to give an oppoligy
[11:50] <johnsie2k> what is the command to install a previously downloaded .deb
[11:50] <signius> i was being a dumb twat with the cisco card
[11:50] <DMFDSandman> what was wrong sinius?
[11:50] <[LethAL] > !tell johnsie2k about dpkg
[11:50] <prego> johnsie2k, you may do that with synaptic as well...
[11:51] <signius> because its got to external mmx antenna connections it sees to nics when thee is only 1 you have to ignore eth1 and configure eth2
[11:51] <DMFDSandman> you arent using wlan0 with WEP?
[11:51] <Trashcan> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 <-- loollll
[11:52] <signius> i am hoping by switiching to a cisco aironet card i am not going to have keep patching the frigging kernel every time like on my orinoco card every tiem anything to do with the kernel is done
[11:52] <signius> because it was getting very very tedious
[11:52] <sexcopter8000m> hey, i'm getting breezy now (:D) via torrent, and it's going about 20k/s. should i be getting better speeds than that??
[11:52] <signius> in the end i was ignoring secuirty updates to the kernel to avoid having to repatch the kernel every time
[11:52] <sexcopter8000m> does it work as a funtion of your upload speed?
[11:52] <DMFDSandman> oh
[11:52] <[LethAL] > sexcopter8000m, linux torrents usually max your download speed
[11:52] <Ky0tIk> damn isp........
[11:53] <signius> i downloadd the iso this morning off the main ubuntu site and the speeds were good
[11:53] <[LethAL] > sexcopter8000m, although it could be because it's release day
[11:53] <Syruss> tmpfs                 375M   13M  363M   4% /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[11:53] <signius> i thought hey would be bogged down and slow but they werent
[11:53] <Syruss> ^ does these mean I have a ram drive mounted?
[11:53] <signius> was very impressed
[11:53] <Syruss> (is this normal)?
[11:53] <Syruss> the ubuntu torrents are excellent...well, the cd iso is
[11:53] <wrabbit> aftertaf, all done.  Doesn't feel much different though.  I think it's gnome :(
[11:53] <Syruss> I was downloading it at 3mbytes/sec at work
[11:53] <Trashcan> haha
[11:53] <Syruss> that's fast.
[11:54] <Dreifinger`ziek> peeps Torrent is slow...
[11:54] <johnsie2k> anyone know how to get xlib6g?
[11:54] <Dreifinger`ziek> my max at torrent was 24kb/s
[11:54] <Dreifinger`ziek> :+
[11:54] <Trashcan> i wish i could seed, but i have the preview iso :(
[11:54] <Dreifinger`ziek> then is normal http mirror faster with 200kb/s :+
[11:55] <Trashcan> i got breezy from the mains at 600
[11:55] <Trashcan> :o
[11:55] <[LethAL] > I know, I'll login to my friend's torrentflux and get him to get it :)
[11:55] <Dreifinger`ziek> Trashcan pm
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> the mains are usually 400 + but i noticed today they are down to like 65 -70
[11:55] <Trashcan> lol
[11:55] <Ky0tIk> 5.10 is sucking all kinds of users in
[11:56] <Trashcan> Dreifinger`ziek : i don't see any PMs :o
[11:56] <Trashcan> phony!
[11:56] <Trashcan> hey everyone, this guy is a great big phony!
[11:56] <Trashcan> ;)
[11:57] <Madpilot> 643 people here... wow
[11:57] <sexcopter8000m> ok, i might just get it off the main site, but i thought i'd be doing the ubuntu team a favour by easing load :P
[11:57] <sexcopter8000m> how can i seed the file once i have it?
[11:58] <Ng> sexcopter8000m: just leave your torrent client running
[11:58] <[LethAL] > Download the .torrent and open it as a seeding torrent in you client
[11:58] <[LethAL] > your*
[11:58] <Ng> or restart the torrent client int he same place if you have to reboot/quit/whatever
[11:58] <sexcopter8000m> k
[11:58] <wrabbit> Maybe I need to try something other then Gnome.  It seems to be bogging up everything
[11:59] <Madpilot> wrabbit: what are your system specs?
[11:59] <wrabbit> Madpilot, I'm on my Thinkpad T20.  PIII 700mhz 256mb Ram
[12:00] <wrabbit> Just installed the latest kernel and it's not all that much different (if at all)
[12:00] <Crasp> hmm if i upgrade from hoary to breezy using apt-get distupgrade would that work ok?
[12:00] <signius> how can i edit the apt source list
[12:00] <signius> it saying i cant do it coz i aint got permissions
[12:00] <Ng> Crasp: should do, there's a page in the wiki with some general hints about what to check afterwards
[12:00] <deFrysk> signius, use sudo
[12:00] <[LethAL] > !tell crasp about breezy
[12:00] <[LethAL] > :)
[12:00] <Crasp> *sigh*
[12:00] <Madpilot> wrabbit: any way of getting more RAM for it?
[12:01] <wrabbit> Madpilot, Eventually
[12:01] <Crasp> oh it's actually usefull
[12:01] <[LethAL] > :)
[12:01] <chaumurky> I'm waiting for my ISP to host it then itdoesn't count towards my quota ;-)
[12:01] <wrabbit> Madpilot, You think that's the problem?
[12:01] <Madpilot> wrabbit: more RAM never hurts, and 256 is getting toward the low end for modern OSes
[12:02] <Crasp> how can i make sure that my local mirror is using breezy final and not RC?
[12:02] <[LethAL] > Crasp, it'll say in the iso's name
[12:02] <wrabbit> Madpilot: Guess so.  Win2k works like a breeze on this laptop.  Can't say that about Ubuntu :(
[12:02] <wrabbit> Don't wanna go back to ms though
[12:02] <Ng> wrabbit: win2k is also 5 years old ;)
[12:02] <Crasp> [LethAL] : you just gave me a link on how to upgrade, so i'm not downloading an iso
[12:02] <wrabbit> Ng, Yup... good point
[12:03] <ema1> Anyone finding evolution crashing on startup with breezy?
[12:03] <wrabbit> Maybe I could find an older distro
[12:03] <[LethAL] > Crasp, oh, I think the mirrors are updated with the repos, just not the ISOs
[12:03] <wrabbit> similar to ubuntu but less demanding
[12:03] <Madpilot> wrabbit: you could try the XFCE packages for Ubuntu - Xubuntu, it's called
[12:03] <Crasp> [LethAL] : mmkay :)
[12:03] <[LethAL] > !xfce
[12:03] <ubotu> xfce is, like, a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[12:04] <[LethAL] > :)
[12:04] <wezzer> !breezy
[12:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:04] <ubuguboo> !printing
[12:04] <ubotu> ubuguboo: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:04] <ercueva> I was using beta version of ubuntu... now 5.10 is released.... how can I know if I have everything OK with the new version?
[12:04] <ubuguboo> !print
[12:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ubuguboo
[12:04] <Madpilot> !+printers
[12:04] <ubotu> somebody said printers was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:05] <Madpilot> ubuguboo: there you go... ;)
[12:05] <ubuguboo> Madpilot thnx
[12:05] <GNAM> NO DVD
[12:05] <wezzer> is there a list of available breezy repositories?
[12:05] <[LethAL] > !mirror
[12:05] <ubotu> mirror is probably repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[12:05] <[LethAL] > wezzer, there ^^
[12:05] <GNAM> i think dvd avaible in a week
[12:05] <wezzer> thanks
[12:05] <Trashcan> !printing
[12:05] <ubotu> printing is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:05] <wrabbit> Madpilot, I luuuurve gnome.  Just slow.  I'd rather not change anything now but thanks
[12:05] <Trashcan> fixed
[12:06] <GNAM> availables
[12:06] <ercueva> I was using ubuntu brezy 5.10... now stable release 5.10, How can I upgrade?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > wrabbit, xfce looks quite like Gnoome
[12:06] <Trashcan> is kde faster (on average) than gnome?
[12:06] <[LethAL] > NO!
[12:06] <Trashcan> rgr :)
[12:06] <wrabbit> Madpilot, I might go back to win2k until I can get some more ram (or a better lappy
[12:06] <Trashcan> i prefer gnome anyway
[12:06] <[LethAL] > >.<
[12:06] <[LethAL] > Me too
[12:06] <Chousuke> They say KDE needs more RAM
[12:06] <ercueva> how can I upgrade from breezy to stable version?
[12:06] <rohal> well mine is faster than gnome
[12:06] <[LethAL] > Maybe if Ubuntu was orginally for KDE, I'd be more inclined to use it :P
[12:06] <GNAM> KDE and GNOME = equal shit. KDE better apps
[12:06] <El_Che> Trashcan: KDE needs less flashy colours
[12:06] <GNAM> imho
[12:07] <bill> I have just installed ubuntu and cannot get any sound at all - everything else seems to be working ok - Has anyone a suggestion as to where i should start looking to fix this
[12:07] <fango> [LethAL] , that torrentflux any use?
[12:07] <Chousuke> wrabbit: try XFCE4
[12:07] <[LethAL] > !start a desktop war
[12:07] <knubbe> ercueva: sudo apt-get update | sudo apt-get upgrade | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <ubotu> fvwm is much better than gnome!
[12:07] <[LethAL] > fango, Yeah, it's a nice client
[12:07] <Chousuke> fvwm isn't comparable to gnome
[12:07] <Chousuke> :P
[12:07] <Trashcan> xfce... *googles*
[12:07] <ercueva> knubbe, thanks, I'll try
[12:07] <wrabbit> Chousuke, I've been trying all day to get things working and running ok.  That'd take way too much effort to learn how
[12:07] <rohal> why the debian room seems dead...this one is much more active...
[12:07] <[LethAL] > fango, I thikn his IP's changed :(
[12:07] <Chousuke> wrabbit: not really :/
[12:08] <Chousuke> wrabbit: xfce is simple and cute.
[12:08] <lorenzod> Aah, fvwm (those were the days..)
[12:08] <Chousuke> Though I hate the rat!
[12:08] <[LethAL] > rohal, because the debian guys know how to use their PC's :P
[12:08] <Trashcan> xfce is nice
[12:08] <Trashcan> looks nice*
[12:08] <Trashcan> i want wobbly windows :D
[12:08] <[LethAL] > xfce would be nicer for me if I could strecth the panel
[12:08] <Chousuke> install luminocity :P
[12:08] <dextur> Is it possible to upgrade an existing ubuntu install? I just cant find the docs...
[12:08] <Chousuke> !breezy
[12:08] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:08] <Ng> knubbe: pipes?!
[12:08] <rohal> [LethAL] : that means gentoo guys do not know how to use there pc's...thats why they r most active?
[12:08] <signius> ok ive worked out how to edit /etc/apt/sources.list in vi but i cant work out how to exit and save the changes
[12:08] <Trashcan> chousuke: i doub't it will run on my lappy :(
[12:08] <dextur> thanks ubotu
[12:08] <Trashcan> no hardware acceleration
[12:08] <signius> can anyone assist please ?
[12:09] <knubbe> Ng: no, my bad.
[12:09] <Chousuke> Trashcan: xfce4?
[12:09] <[LethAL] > rohal, I'm not suprised, gentoo is hard
[12:09] <Chousuke> Trashcan: how much RAM=
[12:09] <Trashcan> i'm lookin at it
[12:09] <Chousuke> ?*
[12:09] <Ng> knubbe: ;)
[12:09] <Trashcan> half a gig
[12:09] <Chousuke> hah
[12:09] <Chousuke> that's way enough for even KDE
[12:09] <wrabbit> Chousuke, ha! lol
[12:09] <Chousuke> :P
[12:09] <Crube> signius did you open it with sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[12:09] <Trashcan> :p
[12:09] <wrabbit> oh wait.. typo
[12:09] <rohal> [LethAL] : harder than debian.....
[12:09] <knubbe> ercueva: correction: first "sudo apt-get update" the "sudo apt-get upgrade" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:09] <Chousuke> XFCE4 needs like 128MB
[12:09] <Trashcan> it all runs fine
[12:09] <Trashcan> i'm just trying to optimize
[12:09] <Trashcan> the ati drivers don't work on the rage mobility
[12:09] <Chousuke> no need, really. :p
[12:09] <Trashcan> so i don't get any acceleration
[12:10] <signius> no i did suso su then opened it with vi /etc/apt/sources/list
[12:10] <Trashcan> dragging and resizing windows lags terribly
[12:10] <wrabbit> Isn't there a way to just optimize gnome so that it doesn't do all the flashy stuff?
[12:10] <signius> sudo even
[12:10] <wrabbit> There has to be a guide.    Firefox is takin ages to load
[12:11] <Chousuke> and select them.
[12:11] <rohal> [LethAL] : i cant understand how the hell that #gentoo manages to get highest no. of users..
[12:11] <DMFDSandman> anyone know why my wireless card would work with no security, but as soon as i enable 128bit WEP it wont connect?
[12:11] <signius> does anyone know how to exit and save in vi ?
[12:11] <Proteque> wrabbit: I use opera
[12:11] <Chousuke> signius: :wq
[12:11] <twilight> wrabbit, gnome?try epiphany
[12:11] <signius> thanks
[12:11] <[LethAL] > rohal, because you have to compile everything, and that makes it fast
[12:11] <wrabbit> Will try both
[12:11] <wrabbit> cheers
[12:11] <[LethAL] > rohal, but I'm told the package management owns
[12:12] <Ng> [LethAL] : package management? hehe ;)
[12:12] <raingrove> j #kubuntu
[12:12] <[LethAL] > Ng, Yeah, it compiles source for you
[12:12] <signius> Hmmm thats just writing it in the text file
[12:12] <Chousuke> [LethAL] : the compiling doesn't give you any real benefits :P
[12:12] <bill> signius  :q to quit vi and save    :q! to quit without saving
[12:12] <rohal> [LethAL] : package management of debian is better than gentoo...i hve heard so...
[12:12] <Chousuke> [LethAL] : Debian packages are compiled with -O2
[12:12] <Ng> [LethAL] : that's hardly package management and isn't very useful :)
[12:12] <signius> niether of them get me out of vi
[12:12] <Trashcan> Chousuke : theres no 'rage' in the list
[12:12] <Trashcan> :(
[12:12] <Ng> signius: hit escape first
[12:12] <[LethAL] > signius, press esc first then
[12:12] <signius> its just writing :q into the text document
[12:12] <Chousuke> Trashcan: try "ati"
[12:12] <signius> ok
[12:12] <Trashcan> that's what it was using already
[12:12] <Ng> signius: vi has two modes, insert and command. escape puts you into command mode so things like :wq work
[12:13] <wrabbit> How do i install it? apt-get install epiphany?
[12:13] <Chousuke> yep
[12:13] <wrabbit> wow.... that was off the top of my head.  I AM learning!  Oh.. so I was way off
[12:14] <wrabbit> alrighty
[12:14] <[LethAL] > rohal, I never said it was better
[12:14] <signius> wow i need a crash course in using vi me thinks
[12:14] <ercueva> how can I be sure that I am with the new version...
[12:14] <ercueva> ?
[12:14] <[LethAL] > signius, you could use nano instead :P
[12:14] <Trashcan> signius : lol, vi is commpllexxx
[12:14] <Trashcan> not for the faint of heart
[12:14] <rohal> [LethAL] : then which one u feel is better?
[12:14] <Trashcan> but when you master it, it's one of the most powerful text editors
[12:15] <ercueva> How can I know I am using ubuntu 5.10 stable version?
[12:15] <[LethAL] > rohal, I haven't tried gentoo myself, so I can't answer that
[12:15] <intelikey> uname -a
[12:15] <C-Keen> ercueva: have a look at your apt sources
[12:15] <wrabbit> installing now
[12:15] <rohal> [LethAL] :for gentoo u need to give time....else that's the best distro to really learn linux..
[12:15] <wrabbit> haha.. 4 minutes
[12:15] <signius> i like mc
[12:15] <[LethAL] > ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent	617.2 MB	rouge
[12:15] <[LethAL] > 0.1% @ 10.8 kB/s
[12:15] <[LethAL] >
[12:15] <[LethAL] >
[12:15] <[LethAL] > 9 hour 03 min 29 sec
[12:15] <[LethAL] > :)
[12:15] <[LethAL] > Ooops
[12:15] <wrabbit> 'Oh well... 500 dollars for this notebook isn't all bad
[12:15] <signius> but i couldnt get them until i had edited the frigging source lists
[12:15] <[LethAL] > Didn't mean to flood :P
[12:15] <ercueva> C-Keen, is there any standar apt sources that I could copy ?
[12:16] <[LethAL] > !tell ercueva about repos
[12:16] <rohal> [LethAL] :if u were in gentoo room right now...then u must have been kicked for this..
[12:16] <C-Keen> ercueva: easiest way to do so is to use synaptic?
[12:17] <Trashcan> using vesa drivers now
[12:17] <Trashcan> :o
[12:17] <wrabbit> aftertaf, I'll see how things go after I get 512mb ram all up.  Should run better.
[12:17] <ercueva> C-Keen, is that the "visual" version of apt?
[12:17] <Trashcan> bahhh
[12:17] <C-Keen> ercueva: it is the gtk-gui yes
[12:17] <brownie17> aftertaf, i fixed it, i just reinstalled windows. :) do you mind helping me restore grub now?
[12:17] <ercueva> C-Keen, sorry I am a bit rookie...:(
[12:17] <Trashcan> when i run glxgears, it runs fine (fast!) for about 3 seconds
[12:17] <rohal> has anyone of u used sharescan in windows?
[12:17] <C-Keen> ercueva: no problem at all
[12:17] <Trashcan> then it drops to maybe 1fps
[12:18] <C-Keen> ercueva: it should be under System->Adminsomething->Synaptic package manager
[12:18] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, odd, mine does run fast, it seems to limit itself now, but it doesnt do what yours does
[12:18] <[LethAL] > doesn't*
[12:18] <Trashcan> it makes me sad
[12:18] <Trashcan> :(
[12:18] <Trashcan> (baby jesus too)
[12:18] <brownie17> !grub
[12:18] <ubotu> it has been said that grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows, or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:18] <wrabbit> !blub
[12:18] <ubotu> wrabbit: What?
[12:19] <RedGhost> 1 hour left on d/l noo :'(
[12:19] <erick> Guys question can I add fonts on my abiword
[12:19] <wrabbit> !blub
[12:19] <larsbjar> I have installed Ubuntu breezy on my mac mini, but as soon as the system is running, the screen flashes for a second and goes dead. What can I do?
[12:19] <shinu> how can i install mozilla-mplayer without mplayer-386? i already compiled my own mplayer here.
[12:19] <Trashcan> lars: does it drop to text mode?
[12:19] <danst> hi my dmesg does not work anymore! I only have old entries! syslogd und klogd are running! where's the problem??? please help
[12:19] <C-Keen> shinu: you can't
[12:19] <danst> me
[12:19] <larsbjar> no
[12:19] <Trashcan> ouch
[12:19] <Trashcan> no idea
[12:19] <C-Keen> shinu: not without fiddling with the mozilla-mplayer .deb yourself
[12:19] <shinu> ugly :/
[12:20] <brownie17> aftertaf, you there?
[12:20] <brownie17> anyone feel like giving me a really quick walkthrough on grub?
[12:20] <larsbjar> Trashcan,  I dont see anything. Seems as the monitor frequency is wrong or something
[12:20] <shinu> C-Keen: ill try and do that maybe
[12:20] <Trashcan> that's no good
[12:21] <Trashcan> can you hook it up to a CRT
[12:21] <larsbjar> :)
[12:21] <larsbjar> its on a CRT as it is
[12:21] <pigeta> hi
[12:21] <Trashcan> oh boy
[12:21] <pigeta> i'm
[12:21] <pigeta> new
[12:21] <erchache> i upgrade my server to breezy and has dependeces error on dist-upgrade...
[12:21] <brownie17> !fstab
[12:21] <ubotu> brownie17: Are you on ritalin?
[12:21] <Trashcan> i thought it was a lappy :)
[12:21] <erchache> how i can solve it?
[12:22] <larsbjar> I on a lappy now to get help :)
[12:22] <Trashcan> hehe
[12:22] <Trashcan> i have no idea, sorry
[12:22] <larsbjar> crap
[12:22] <ubuguboo> !+fstab
[12:22] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, ubuguboo
[12:22] <Trashcan> hey seveas
[12:22] <Seveas> oia
[12:22] <Seveas> Party time :)
[12:22] <Seveas> woah -- 652 people in here
[12:22] <Seveas> *653 - hi Fergy :)
[12:22] <Trashcan> :)
[12:22] <larsbjar> reinstall?
[12:23] <brownie17> i am havnig trouble restoring grub
[12:23] <intelikey> larsbjar you can try [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]   to console mode and login    reconfigure x with  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  [alt] +[f7]     and  x can be reset with  [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]
[12:23] <Trashcan> if it's something like that larsbjar, it's probably not going to be fixed with a reinstall
[12:23] <wrabbit> interesting :) Epiphany really does load up faster
[12:23] <brownie17> can someone help me restore grub, i am having trouble
[12:23] <signius> Lookslike the gb backports urls in the apt sources lists are broken
[12:23] <C-Keen> brownie17: dpkg-reconfigure grub?
[12:23] <larsbjar> ok... I will try
[12:23] <signius> thats fantastic on the first day a product is released
[12:23] <intelikey> take notes larsbjar
[12:24] <larsbjar> sure :) thanks
[12:24] <Renski> aaaaaarrrrrggghhh
[12:24] <brownie17> C-Keen, i installed windows, now i want to insert it at MBR again.
[12:24] <Renski> its the 13th today, isnt it?
[12:24] <Trashcan> yessir
[12:24] <Renski> are the iso up yet?!!?
[12:24] <Trashcan> people are already torrenting
[12:25] <otep> hello all, is there an option on the breezy installer to just 'upgrade' an existing ubuntu installation?
[12:25] <Renski> can I get a url?
[12:25] <brownie17> can anybody help me restore grub at MBR? i am having problems
[12:26] <intelikey> hmmm i'd say my clock had drifted "step time server <IP_ADDRESS> offset 35964.100965 sec"
[12:26] <C-Keen> brownie17: you want to insert window's mbr or what?
[12:27] <Trashcan> lolol
[12:27] <intelikey> brownie17 sudo grub-install
[12:27] <brownie17> C-Keen, no, GRUB. i installed windows and it works, but it dominates the MBR, now i want to put grub back on. there is a guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but i am having trouble following it
[12:27] <larsbjar> intelikey, ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt do much. when do I push this? sorry.... Im in way over my head :(
[12:27] <brownie17> intelikey, are you sure? the wiki gives me a much more involved proccess
[12:27] <C-Keen> brownie17: boot from CD, use the cd's grub to boot from disk, then do the grub-install thing
[12:27] <NotHere> brosioz: can you boot ubuntu somehow?
[12:28] <brownie17> intelikey, i am on livecd sudo: grub-install: command not found
[12:28] <intelikey> brownie17 for a simple reinstall of grub to mbr  yes
[12:28] <NotHere> brownie17 I mean
[12:28] <intelikey> oh
[12:28] <Flash> hmm
[12:28] <brownie17> NotHere, i am on ubuntu livecd now
[12:28] <C-Keen> brownie17: not live cd...boot your installed linux
[12:28] <brownie17> C-Keen, don't know how
[12:28] <intelikey> ok pivot root to the installed root and do that brownie17
[12:28] <C-Keen> brownie17: it will tell you at boot up...
[12:28] <Renski> hey, can someone get me a link to the bit-torrent? I have an E1 here.
[12:29] <larsbjar> intelikey, ctrl+alt+f1 when do I push this?
[12:29] <C-Keen> brownie17: or alternatively mount your hard disk. go in that directory. do a sudo chroot .
[12:29] <brownie17> intelikey, how do i "pivot root the the installed root"?
[12:29] <NotHere> brownie17: boot in some rescue mode, mount your ubuntu partitions under /somedir and then do chroot /somedir/.  I have a problem. After upgrading to Breezy from Hoary, my umlauts are not working anymore...
[12:29] <tuxuntu> Anyone with an idea?
[12:29] <NotHere> brownie17: you can do that with the live cd too...
[12:29] <SillyCone> is it possible to install kernel source without internet connection?
[12:29] <C-Keen> tuxuntu: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[12:30] <brownie17> C-Keen, NotHere intelikey three people telling me what to do, i am geting really confused, can someone PM me?
[12:30] <Flash> SillyCone: if you can find it on the CD yeah
[12:30] <larsbjar> :( i cant see
[12:30] <SillyCone> I'm trying to install ndiswrapper to get online and it requires kernel source
[12:30] <C-Keen> brownie17: I will stop talking to you now.
[12:30] <brownie17> C-Keen, didn't mean to offend you
[12:30] <intelikey> larsbjar that is to switch from gui "X" to cli "console"  you have about 6 login consoles  f1-f6 and f7 is for gui
[12:30] <SillyCone> Flash: do u know where on CD it is?
[12:30] <Flash> if you have the cd in your reps
[12:30] <brownie17> intelikey, can you please tell me in really simple terms, exactly what i should type in?
[12:30] <wrabbit> SillyCone, make sure you use the winxp drivers
[12:30] <Flash> you can use apt-get install kernel-source to install it
[12:31] <tuxuntu> C-Keen, i've done that. I want an en_US locale but a swiss german charset. How do I do that?
[12:31] <intelikey> brownie17 what problem exactly do you have at boot time ?
[12:31] <SillyCone> ok, thanks
[12:31] <larsbjar> okay, intelikey , but when? after bootup or during?
[12:31] <intelikey> after the screen goes blank larsbjar
[12:32] <brownie17> intelikey, i installed windows, and now GRUB is gone. i want to bring it back. i am having trouble following the guide
[12:32] <larsbjar> ok :)
[12:32] <tuxuntu> C-Keen, there is also an error when I'm trying to start gnome, about a possible bug in libxklavier...
[12:32] <Renski> does ubuntu release i586 isos?
[12:32] <Ng> no
[12:32] <NotHere> it would be nice if the installation cd had a recovery mode with some options like "reinstall grub"...
[12:33] <nightswim> it's called a shell
[12:33] <Renski> can someone get me a bit link? Id rather not leech off ubuntu.
[12:33] <Cody`> to get the udpate do I change all hoary's in apt sources to breezy?
[12:33] <nightswim> so in a way it's already there
[12:33] <intelikey> ok  how about you boot the live cd and at the boot prompt type root=/dev/hd<where-ever-ub_is>   brown
[12:33] <intelikey> hmmmm
[12:33] <Flash> reinstalling the grub isnt that hard
[12:33] <NotHere> nightswim: not really the same thing :>
[12:33] <nightswim> Renski: the torrent is on http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[12:33] <larsbjar> [ctrl] +[alt] +[f1]  dont do anything to my dead screen. I reinstall and pray...
[12:33] <Trashcan> is there a list of window managers somewhere?
[12:33] <nightswim> NotHere: it's a really powerful recovery mode :>
[12:33] <Cody`> to get the udpate do I change all hoary's in apt sources to breezy?
[12:34] <Renski> nightswim: ah, the torrents are with the rest of the files.. my mistake. Thank you
[12:34] <intelikey> lars one more thing first.
[12:34] <larsbjar> okay
[12:34] <nightswim> Renski: yeah they are, not every mirror holds the torrents yet I believe, but this one does
[12:35] <intelikey> larsbjar try booting with this options  "linux vga=0 1 "   and if that boots you to a console that you can work from well try to fix it   k
[12:35] <[LethAL] > Trashcan, yeah, in synaptic
[12:35] <Trashcan> nice, thanks
[12:36] <johnsie2k> Just wanna say... BBC news desktop alerts works nicely with wine
[12:36] <intelikey> if not it didn't coust much larsbjar
[12:36] <intelikey> cost
[12:36] <larsbjar> will do. intelikey thanks.  Try using -f.
[12:37] <dejot> the nvidia driver doesn't work
[12:38] <lamer1> I'm trying to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy but my system reboots when trying to upgrade postfix package ? Did anyone had this kind of problem ???
[12:38] <brownie17> how do i acces my fstab?
[12:38] <dejot> nvidia-glx installed, "nv" -> "nvidia" => XServer doesn't start, just a black screen, no Console
[12:38] <dejot> browniel17: sudo nano /etc/ftab
[12:39] <wezzer> pls help: http://pastebin.com/392093
[12:39] <wezzer> what to do?
[12:39] <Bergcube> *Snicker*  Downloading the 5.10 ISO with bittorrent.  160 KBps...... Oh happy day!
[12:39] <SillyCone> Flash, i do have the CD in the repositories, but if i do apt-get install kernel-source, it says that it cannot find it
[12:39] <brownie17> dejot, should i be able to do that from livecd?
[12:40] <larsbjar> while I
[12:40] <Flash> finally
[12:40] <wezzer> does anyone have any ideas on that?
[12:40] <Flash> the upgrade is almost done
[12:40] <brownie17> intelikey, are you still there? sorry about that. i still need help restoring GRUB. can you help me?
[12:40] <dejot> browniel17: yep, just mount your existing partition and then you can access the fstab
[12:40] <intelikey> brownie17 i'll sure try
[12:40] <brownie17> dejot, but i need fstab to know the name of the partition
[12:41] <brownie17> intelikey, pm? or in here?
[12:41] <intelikey> here
[12:41] <larsbjar> while I'm here... Is there a way to search for computers on my local network, all and specific ones?
[12:41] <intelikey> i beep on pm
[12:41] <brownie17> intelikey, ok, well what should i type?
[12:41] <intelikey> lars man nmap
[12:41] <dejot> browniel17: ?
[12:42] <brownie17> dejot, don't worry
[12:42] <tuxuntu> larsbjar, nmap 192.168.1.* -sP ;)
[12:42] <intelikey> tell me what you have running brownie17
[12:42] <BockBilbo> hey
[12:42] <brownie17> intelikey, ubuntu hoary with BASH and the standard gnome-terminal emulation. i am using LIVECD
[12:42] <intelikey> you on live cd ?
[12:42] <intelikey> ok
[12:42] <SillyCone> How to install kernel source without an internet connection?\
[12:43] <shermanator> SillyCone, why without an internet connection? your on the net atm
[12:43] <intelikey> do you have other os's  windows...  on your system brownie17  ?
[12:43] <SillyCone> im on my windows laptop
[12:43] <brownie17> intelikey, yes, RE-installing windows was what removed GRUB from the MBR
[12:43] <BockBilbo> does anyone here have problems when trying to listen to the sound in flash animations using firefox and the flashplayer-mozilla plugin? When i try to listen to a song, firefox freezes... i use breezy and did the symlink to libesd.so.0 or whatever was its name
[12:43] <BockBilbo> ...
[12:44] <brownie17> intelikey, windows is allready in my GRUB menu.lst though, so no problems there
[12:44] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, I just use the plugin when I hit a flash site :)
[12:44] <intelikey> k  yeah i should have put that togather...  sorry. brownie17 type fdisk -l for a list of partitions
[12:44] <wrabbit> cheers for the help all.  Time to get some more ram me thinks.
[12:44] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , but does it freeze ff?
[12:44] <wrabbit> cya all
[12:44] <wezzer> damn
[12:44] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, nope
[12:44] <brownie17> intelikey, yep, want them through #flood?
[12:44] <wezzer> I have problems with depedencies
[12:45] <_osh> upgrading is just doing a "s/hoary/breezy/g" on apt-sources isn't it?
[12:45] <intelikey> brownie17 find the partition with ub installed and give me it.
[12:45] <wezzer> what should I do now?
[12:45] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , try this site: http://www.goikoetxeta.com and try to play any song on the music player on the left
[12:45] <brownie17> intelikey,  i think hdb1
[12:45] <BockBilbo> tell me if you hear it
[12:45] <Trashcan> man, the repos are gettin hammered!
[12:45] <Trashcan> 20ks
[12:45] <Trashcan> k/s*
[12:45] <Trashcan> down to 13 :p
[12:45] <Taliesin`> 235KB/sec here, from a auth'd repo :>
[12:46] <intelikey> brownie17 ok sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media
[12:46] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, :-(
[12:46] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , what?
[12:46] <[LethAL] > No music
[12:46] <brownie17> intelikey, done
[12:46] <marcus^> *downloading breezy live cd :D*
[12:46] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , did you press the play button?
[12:46] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, ya
[12:46] <intelikey> brownie17 ls /media and see if it looks like a buuntu /
[12:47] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, I'll try a flash player on another site
[12:47] <BockBilbo> mmm [LethAL]  it sould sound..
[12:47] <BockBilbo> *should
[12:47] <brownie17> intelikey, yeah, exactly
[12:47] <intelikey> brownie17 ok cd /media
[12:47] <brownie17> intelikey, done
[12:48] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , try this: http://musicplayer.sourceforge.net/
[12:48] <intelikey> brownie17 usr/sbin/pivot<tab_key>   and see if it finishes the name for you
[12:48] <wezzer> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:48] <wezzer>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs-data_6.8.2-32_all.deb
[12:48] <wezzer>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libx11-6_1%3a6.2.1+cvs.20050615-3_i386.deb
[12:48] <[LethAL] > BockBilbo, ff hung when I asked for a new page :S
[12:48] <wezzer> what should I do?
[12:48] <[LethAL] > Stop pasting?
[12:48] <johnsie2k> how do i find my local ip address?
[12:48] <brownie17> intelikey, just beeps
[12:48] <[LethAL] > johnsie2k, ifconfig
[12:49] <bimberi> johnsie2k: ip a
[12:49] <[LethAL] > Or that
[12:49] <BockBilbo> [LethAL] , so ff gets frozen, right?
[12:49] <bimberi> or that :)
[12:49] <[LethAL] > Yeah, but that was after I'd left the page :S
[12:49] <johnsie2k> cheers
[12:49] <BockBilbo> yeah
[12:49] <ompaul> this will be fast http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/5.10/ <<--- they have more bandwidth than most
[12:49] <BockBilbo> thats because you pressed the play button
[12:49] <intelikey> brownie17 k try sbin/pivot<tab>    cause i'm not sure where ub puts it.
[12:49] <BockBilbo> and it made a conflict with the sound
[12:49] <brownie17> intelikey, beeps
[12:50] <[LethAL] > Ah
[12:50] <intelikey> on a whim try it with no address
[12:50] <intelikey> it may be on the cd too
[12:51] <intelikey> oh i think ub beeps if there are more than one also try 2 tab key strokes on that brownie17
[12:51] <Trashcan> xfce is...interesting
[12:51] <Trashcan> back to gnome for me ;)
[12:51] <brownie17> intelikey, i tried just "pivot" and pressed tab and it completed it to "pivot_root"
[12:52] <brownie17> intelikey, i tried pressing two tab strokes for both, it didn't work
[12:52] <intelikey> ok add this to the command line there  .  ./media/cdrom
[12:53] <intelikey> and execute it.
[12:53] <brownie17> intelikey i dont understand
[12:53] <Trashcan> good ol' gnome
[12:53] <intelikey> brownie17 sudo pivot_root .  ./media/cdrom
[12:53] <johnnybezak> hey whens breezy released must be a matter of hours hey?
[12:53] <Ng> johnnybezak: it's out :)
[12:54] <brownie17> intelikey, "pivot_root: No such file or directory"
[12:54] <brownie17> johnnybezak, it is released i think
[12:54] <marcus^> downloading live CD at 497kb/s :D
[12:54] <johnnybezak> Ng: haha that'll learn me for using slashdot as a news source :P
[12:54] <brownie17> marcus^, FAST! what speed internet you got?
[12:54] <CaiN_SA> marcus^, shush this line is going max 5kb/s
[12:54] <marcus^> 4000/400
[12:54] <CaiN_SA> :(
[12:55] <brownie17> CaiN_SA, my max is 20, :)
[12:55] <brownie17> CaiN_SA, :( ***
[12:55] <Crube> Mines 200
[12:55] <marcus^> Telenor in Norway. im downloading form a Swedish server i guess (se.ubuntulinux.org or something)
 intelikey, i tried just "pivot" and pressed tab and it completed it to "pivot_root" <---- that means it was in your path some place   so in the media dir i had you cd into do this   sudo pivot_root .  ./media/cdrom
[12:55] <jhank> are your sources so damn slow too?
[12:55] <wezzer> Hello all
[12:56] <wezzer> my problem is this: http://pastebin.com/392098
[12:56] <wezzer> I'm trying to upgrade from hoary to breezy
[12:56] <aftertaf> anyone know when ubuntu 6.10 will be released?? gurning guppy?
[12:56] <brownie17> intelikey, my mistake, accdiently left /media. it is done. it worked now
[12:56] <wezzer> and I'm out of ideas
[12:56] <jhank> wezzer in april 2006
[12:56] <jhank> afiaik
[12:56] <brownie17> aftertaf, hahaha breezy came out like 5 hours ago!
[12:56] <wezzer> jhank: what?
[12:56] <brownie17> aftertaf, you allready getting impatient?
[12:56] <intelikey> now brownie17 just sudo grub-install
[12:57] <Taliesin`> my local apt-repo is already cranked up and updated, took me 2 mins to grab all teh dist-upgrade files :D
[12:57] <CzarAlex> Okay. Whats the console command to upgrade from hoary to breezy? I'll take the dive into the unknown.
[12:57] <Taliesin`> (CzarAlex): apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:57] <brownie17> intelikey, "Usage: grub-install [OPTION]  install_device"
[12:57] <intelikey> now brownie17 just sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[12:57] <CzarAlex> Taliesin`, alrighty.
[12:58] <sayan> BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZY
[12:58] <intelikey> the mbr of course.
[12:58] <ompaul> aftertaf, year 2006 month 10, but I thought you knew that
[12:58] <sJaM> I wanted to boot from the ubuntu install 386 Breezy cd for the server I just got and I get "kernel corrupt or invalid"
[12:58] <sJaM> tried with my laptop got the same message
[12:58] <sJaM> md5 checksums are the same
[12:58] <CzarAlex> Taliesin`, the mirromax.net repositories didnt work. is that okay?
[12:58] <brownie17> intelikey, allrighty, i think it worked. i will try a restart, then ill come bac and tell you if it worked
[12:58] <[LethAL] > sJaM, you borked the CD then
[12:58] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:58] <sJaM> borked ?
[12:59] <marcus^> 94% downloaded ;)
[12:59] <intelikey> brown sudo init 6
[12:59] <intelikey> that will reboot
[12:59] <brownie17> marcus^, took me about 5 hours
[12:59] <[LethAL] > sJaM, grab the torrent, unborkable download... then You have to trust your PC to burn it well
[12:59] <marcus^> brownie17: hehe
[12:59] <marcus^> 97%
[12:59] <sJaM> what is unborkable ?
[01:00] <[LethAL] > Not a real word :D
[01:00] <Trashcan> bork = break
[01:00] <CzarAlex> sJaM, that really hot girl in yer gym class.
[01:00] <poningru> you cant break it
[01:00] <marcus^> 99%
[01:00] <jhank> has nayone got experiences installing skype on breezy?
[01:00] <marcus^> 100% !!! yeah!
[01:00] <[LethAL] > !skype
[01:00] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free, or breezy debs: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:00] <[LethAL] > ;)
[01:00] <sJaM> I don't have gym
[01:00] <marcus^> hooray
[01:00] <poningru> marcus^: breazy?
[01:00] <CzarAlex> sJaM, bummer
[01:00] <sJaM> but I already downloaded it via bittorrent
[01:00] <jhank> thanks
[01:00] <marcus^> breezy yes
[01:00] <Bergcube> sJaM~  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bork
[01:00] <[LethAL] > sJaM, Oh, burn the ISO again then
[01:00] <det> I'm surprised it hasnt hit /. yet
[01:00] <sayan> list
[01:01] <marcus^> *getting a empty cd*
[01:01] <sJaM> perhaps it has something to do with the fact that I have to -force it in k3b
[01:01] <CzarAlex> uh oh. apt-get dist-upgrade gave me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:01] <Trashcan> ahhhhhhhh 3 hours to download kde, no way
[01:01] <[LethAL] > sJaM, yeah, that doesn't help
[01:01] <Trashcan> stop downloading breezy guys :p
[01:01] <[LethAL] > CzarAlex, sudo apt-get update
[01:01] <[LethAL] > :P
[01:01] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , First thing I did. hmmm.
[01:02] <[LethAL] > :(
[01:02] <Trashcan> what's the line to re-enable cd in the sources.list?
[01:02] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , there were a couple 404's flying by
[01:02] <[LethAL] > O.o
[01:02] <marcus^> download from the swedish site :P
[01:02] <[LethAL] > Try a different !mirror
[01:02] <marcus^> Swedish people are at work or school now
[01:02] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , it was a lot of the mirrormax.net sites.
[01:03] <[LethAL] > So are most British people
[01:03] <[LethAL] > CzarAlex, iirc mirrormax stopped mirroring Ubuntu
[01:03] <Trashcan> :( anyone?
[01:03] <[LethAL] > ?
[01:03] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , okay so that isnt my issue then, any idea what is?
[01:03] <Trashcan> need to reenable the cd as a source
[01:03] <Trashcan> sources.list
[01:03] <[LethAL] > apt-cdrom possibly
[01:04] <[LethAL] > CzarAlex, use a new mirror...
[01:04] <intelikey> apt-setup
[01:04] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , where can I find one to use? and do I add that to my sources list?
[01:04] <[LethAL] > !tell CzarAlex -about mirror
[01:04] <marcus^> *burning Ubuntu on  CD* :D
[01:04] <Trashcan> :D
[01:04] <SillyCone> What's an average speed when downloading from official repositories? Because I'm getting ~30kB/s
[01:05] <[LethAL] > SillyCone, well I get 240 from the GB repos :)
[01:05] <CzarAlex> [LethAL] , thanks
[01:05] <[LethAL] > 240kbps that is
[01:05] <[LethAL] > CzarAlex, np :)
[01:05] <Trashcan> thanks intelikey !
[01:05] <SillyCone> how come my speed is so low?
[01:05] <marcus^> a guy on my hosting co says that the desktop Linux distributions isnt secure by default.. is this right?
[01:05] <intelikey> np
[01:05] <Trashcan> SillyCone : because everyone and their mother's brother's uncle's former roommate is downloading
[01:06] <[LethAL] > marcus^, well they don't come with a setup firewall
[01:06] <SillyCone> Trashcan, :)
[01:06] <Seveas> marcus^, it's bullshit
[01:06] <[LethAL] > marcus^, And if they said anything about passwords, shadow passwords has changed that
[01:06] <intelikey> G i'm glad i'm not in that list   8*?
[01:06] <marcus^> yes, i hope they are encrypted at least
[01:06] <Seveas> marcus^, Ubuntu is secure by default. point.
[01:06] <[LethAL] > marcus^, only root can read then :)
[01:07] <[LethAL] > them*
[01:07] <marcus^> ok
[01:07] <jgb> where does the colony naming come from?
[01:09] <marcus^> OMG.. burn process failed
[01:09] <reiki> ok I just woke up and I'm sorry if this has been asked, but are there posted directions for simply upgrading from Hoary to Breezy? (If so it might be helpful to put that in the topic)
[01:10] <SillyCone> is the root password the same as my normal account password?
[01:10] <[LethAL] > !breezy
[01:10] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:10] <[LethAL] > SillyCone, root is disabled
[01:10] <linuxboy> can I make my own .iso file for breezy with jigdo? I have fast access toa mirror
[01:10] <jgb> is colony-1 the final release?
[01:10] <intelikey> marcus^ actualy the security of linux distrobutions varies greatly depending on distro/release and install method,  but in a nut shell.  he's right.   however even at that they are on avarage more secure than "thatotherdows" default install
[01:10] <bimberi> SillyCone: root is disabled and you use sudo for superuser access
[01:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell SillyCone about root
[01:11] <marcus^> intelikey: so when i install ubuntu server, i dont have to worry about security?
[01:11] <SillyCone> yes, I know, but when I type sudo and it asks for password ... should I type my regular account password?
[01:11] <[LethAL] > Yes
[01:11] <ratboy> yup
[01:11] <SillyCone> ok, thanks
[01:11] <ratboy> hey dudes
[01:11] <[LethAL] > Hewwo
[01:11] <jgb> marcus^ : erm, you always have to worry about security
[01:11] <CzarAlex> can someone paste me a copy of their sources.list so I can properly upgrade to breezy?
[01:11] <Seveas> !tell CzarAlex about sources
[01:12] <marcus^> jgb: yes, but what should i do?
[01:12] <brownie17> intelikey, it didn't work, but what we did remade my GRUB menu.lst, so i have to re-enter windows. is hda1 hd(0,0)?
[01:12] <marcus^> jgb: i know i shall change passwords
[01:12] <CzarAlex> Seveas, do I need hoary sources to upgrade to breezy?
[01:12] <[LethAL] > brownie17, yes
[01:12] <timalot> hello?
[01:12] <brownie17> !winmac_fstab
[01:12] <ubotu> brownie17: Are you on ritalin?
[01:12] <Seveas> CzarAlex, no...
[01:12] <brownie17> !windows
[01:12] <ubotu> [windows]  Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[01:12] <jgb> marcus^: hire a security guy if your server is worth it
[01:12] <Seveas> !ntfs
[01:12] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:12] <intelikey> brownie17 yeah
[01:12] <CzarAlex> Seveas, thank you.
[01:13] <brownie17> Seveas, thanks
[01:13] <marcin_ant> hi guys - pretty naive question - if I got breezy and updated my apt - then do I have the same packages as in current release or do I need to change something in aps sources list?
[01:13] <timalot> can i update to ubuntu 5.10 from breezey colony install using the update manager?
[01:13] <intelikey> brownie17 didn't work ?
[01:13] <dooglus> timalot: yes
[01:13] <brownie17> intelikey, GRUB was there, but windows wasn't in it.
[01:13] <timalot> cheers... 540 odd packages to download
[01:14] <knj> timalot: I upgraded to Breezy via. apt-get dist-upgrade yesterday :)
[01:14] <knj> timalot: Just update /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:14] <intelikey> ah well adding the windows part to the list should be easy enough
[01:15] <BreiteSeite> gri!
[01:15] <timalot> thanks... i've been waiting for this release,  before continuing to update packages
[01:15] <BreiteSeite> gru
[01:15] <brownie17> intelikey, how do i access the fstab again?
[01:15] <Seveas> !de
[01:15] <ubotu> Bitte gehen sie nach #ubuntu-de fuer deutschsprachige hilfe
[01:15] <intelikey> brownie17 access ?  like read     or write ?
[01:16] <brownie17> intelikey, write
[01:16] <intelikey> brownie17 sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:17] <timalot> problem is ubuntu is going so good already... i don't want to break anything by upgrading... i guess they are mostly fixes
[01:17] <marcin_ant> what should I add to apt/sources.list to update to breezy?
[01:17] <CzarAlex> Can I leave this upgrade unattended or will I have to hit Y ever so often?
[01:17] <Seveas> marcin_ant, /topic
[01:17] <intelikey> i was thinking access    hmmm cat /etc/fstab       edit sudo nano /etc/fstab      or just  touch /etc/fstab would be accessing it but i cant think of why you would need to touch it......
[01:17] <Seveas> CzarAlex, depends
[01:18] <CzarAlex> Seveas, great..
[01:18] <[LethAL] > Ah! 666 peoples!
[01:18] <Seveas> if you manually changed config files, it WILL need your attention
[01:18] <knj> marcin_ant: You should change all "hoary" to "breezy". Then run "apt-get update", "apt-get dist-upgrade".
[01:18] <CzarAlex> Seveas, hmm. okay. thanks.
[01:18] <samu2> I think there should be a button to automatically update to breezy in synaptic or something.
[01:19] <knj> samu2: Haha, good idea :)
[01:19] <Seveas> samu2, often requested feature -- maybe some day soon it'll be there
[01:19] <[LethAL] > or better, instead of having release names in sources.list have stable, testing etc :P
[01:19] <Seveas> [LethAL] , I hate that
[01:19] <intelikey> deb ?
[01:19] <[LethAL] > :(
[01:19] <knj> Dont think Microsoft have such a feature. "upgrade to windows vista"... "Please enter your card number" :)
[01:19] <Seveas> it defies the concept of 'stable'
[01:20] <[LethAL] > rofl knj
[01:20] <Seveas> suddenly you stable install gets a gig of updates...
[01:20] <samu2> Not that it was hard to change all hoary to breezy, but it just seems like a hacker thing to do to manually change it.
[01:20] <samu2> Like it's a workaround for doing it, and not the intended way.
[01:20] <knj> Seveas: Maybe it would be better to make a clean reinstall by downloading the ISO?? :)
[01:21] <Seveas> knj, for windows it would, for ubuntu not :)
[01:21] <and_> hello
[01:21] <knj> samu2: I did it yesterday and that worked just fine :) Just go to a prompt and type "nano /etc/apt/sources.list", change it and run the two apt-commands :)
[01:22] <samu2> knj, I'm already upgrading right now. Did it through synaptic though.
[01:22] <samu2> But it still felt like I was hacking the system to upgrade it, and not doing it in a controlled way.
[01:22] <mahangu> is there a problem with breezy and thinkpas?
[01:23] <knj> samu2: I didnt dare to do it via synaptic... What happens if it tries to delete/update my Gnome while it is running? Then it will close gnome and kill synaptic????
[01:23] <Trashcan> 16 hours to KDE, yessssssss
[01:23] <lhb> well, that is suppose to be one of the beautiful things about apt
[01:23] <larsbjar> intelikey, I still dont get have screen on Ubuntu. [ctrl] +[alt] +[any f-key]  doesnt seem to affect. And I lost the tips from earlier... bah
[01:23] <Seveas> Trashcan, you can still cancel :)
[01:23] <Trashcan> hehe
[01:23] <Seveas> don't go to the dark side :)
[01:24] <mahangu> Seveas, thinkpad and breezy? ive seen some neg comments in here
[01:24] <intelikey> or maybe a distro-upgrade script that rewrites /etc/apt/sources.list with the propper url's and runs the two commands for you....
[01:24] <Seveas> mahangu, thinkpad+breezy works fine
[01:24] <mahangu> Seveas, cool will upgrade
[01:24] <mahangu> just change hoary to breezy
[01:24] <Trashcan> i'm just looking for a little refreshing change
[01:24] <mahangu> then apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:24] <Trashcan> i tried xfce... it sucks
[01:24] <Trashcan> lol seveas, nice
[01:25] <larsbjar> hard to operate without a screen :(
[01:25] <Trashcan> :p
[01:25] <knj> I am running Thinkpad R51 and Breezy right now :)
[01:25] <Trashcan> no it isn't
[01:25] <Trashcan> just enable text to speech
[01:25] <mahangu> knj, cool, so t42 should be fin ehe?
[01:25] <Trashcan> and you are good to go :D
[01:25] <[LethAL] > rofl
[01:25] <larsbjar> ?? joke ?
[01:25] <michael> does anyone know about Ubuntu posters that I could print to announce 5.10 to the 500+ students that live in my building?
[01:25] <Trashcan> yes ;)
[01:25] <knj> mahangu: I ran hoary on R31 too... I am sure it will work fine.
[01:25] <timalot> for name in [list of files that needed to be changed]  ; do cat $name |sed s/hoary/breezy/g > tmp; mv tmp $name ; done
[01:25] <albacker> guys, i change the default runlevel to 3 in /etc/inittab, and next time il login i stil see the gdm.. how can i get a terminal-login ?!
[01:26] <intelikey> larsbjar if booting with options vga=0 0 doesnt give you a console screen  i have serious doubts about getting linux to work with that display hardware.
[01:26] <gdh> hullo :) Just a quick question... if I open a text file with gEdit by Places-Network Browser... it opens in read-only mode even though the remote smb share is read/write -- if I open it with openoffice writer instead, I can save to the file. any ideas?
[01:26] <mahangu> so just hoary to breezy
[01:26] <El_Che> albacker: diasble gdm
[01:26] <mahangu> and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:26] <mahangu> i wanna do it in parts, the upgrade
[01:26] <knj> mahangu: If you are making a clean install you should run the vga-boot-command to be sure to not get any problems with your laptop monitor though. Run something like "linux vga=773"
[01:26] <mahangu> can i do that?
[01:26] <GNAM> DVDs ?
[01:26] <albacker> El_Che, how ?
[01:26] <knj> Widescreens fails if you dont do that.... My other laptop did :)
[01:26] <mahangu> knj, hoary works fine with this vga
[01:26] <Seveas> timalot, sed -i :)
[01:26] <GNAM> as for hoary, DVDs after a week
[01:26] <dooglus> timalot: do you know about the --in-place option to 'sed'?
[01:27] <dooglus> Seveas: snap :)
[01:27] <El_Che> albacker: from gnome in the run service gui prog
[01:27] <timalot> no
[01:27] <[LethAL] > Where can I get a list of numbers to put in the vga=### boot option?
[01:27] <knj> mahangu: Not saying that it is a problem... I just experienced it once or so :)
[01:27] <larsbjar> intelikey, who said option vga 0 0? And its a very standard CRT
[01:27] <El_Che> albacker: from commandline with upodate-rc.d
[01:27] <timalot> dooglus
[01:27] <Seveas> [LethAL] , google ;)
[01:27] <timalot> no
[01:27] <dooglus> timalot: stops you having to use >tmp; mv...
[01:27] <[LethAL] > Seveas, I tried some time ago...
[01:27] <mahangu> i might wait till i get my breezy cds
[01:27] <El_Che> albacker: if you are lazy, put exit 0 on top of /etc/init.d/gdm
[01:27] <knj> LethAL: Google something like "vga=773"... That is 1024x768 anyway :)
[01:27] <mahangu> 200mb is a lot over this connection
[01:27] <dooglus> timalot: allows sed to edit the file in place, without using a temp file.  -i is the same.  "man sed"
[01:27] <elfredo> [LethAL]  man lilo.conf
[01:27] <Seveas> [LethAL] , sec. I'll have beagle search my history :)
[01:28] <[LethAL] > elfredo, I can't imagine why that's not working for me :D
[01:28] <timalot> ah ok , all those wasted characters i used to type....
[01:28] <intelikey> hmmm i said options vga=0 0 at boot    so you could see how to fix things.... larsbjar
[01:28] <dooglus> timalot: admit it - you just learnt something and you love it.
[01:28] <elfredo> [LethAL]  grub user eh? :)
[01:28] <timalot> heah i am lazy
[01:28] <[LethAL] > elfredo, yeah, makes life easy :P
[01:29] <elfredo> heh you wish :)
[01:29] <intelikey> larsbjar if i understood you correctly you had a blank vidio
[01:29] <larsbjar> sorry there... how do i set this option then
[01:29] <dooglus> there's a trade-off though.  you can be too lazy to learn how to be properly lazy.
[01:29] <dooglus> that's what windows users do
[01:29] <Flash> just to let you guys know
[01:29] <Flash> the upgrade solved all my probs
[01:29] <timalot> so yeah it's a good thing
[01:29] <Seveas> [LethAL] , http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html
[01:30] <Seveas> you can use the 0x numbers
[01:30] <[LethAL] > Thanks :D
[01:30] <sudonim> When I am upgrading, it is telling me I dont have a default locale - is this normal?
[01:30] <albacker> El_Che, how can i do it without putin exit 0 in /etc/init.d/gdm ? im not finding it in the gnome-control-center.. the place to disable gdm
[01:30] <intelikey> at the grub prompt [esc]  E     E to edit the line for your linux kernel larsbjar "assuming grub"
[01:30] <timalot> yeah in the long run it's worth it
[01:30] <Seveas> sudonim, yes, this can happen during massive updates
[01:30] <matteo> hi guys
[01:30] <matteo> any Italian?
[01:30] <intelikey> larsbjar first tell me
[01:31] <CrackersKeenan> so, I'm sure this has been asked, but has anyone spotted problems with upgrades from hoary to breezy?  In particular, sound problems?
[01:31] <larsbjar> all yours
[01:31] <Seveas> !it
[01:31] <ubotu> italiano es #ubuntu-it per favore, andiamo! Grazi ... prego! :-)
[01:31] <larsbjar> grub yes
[01:31] <intelikey> do you have any console exp ?
[01:31] <larsbjar> console exp?
[01:31] <[LethAL] > Seveas, It doesn't mention 1280x960 and I don't have an LCD...
[01:31] <intelikey> are you new to linux   experence
[01:32] <rafa> #ubuntu
[01:32] <larsbjar> new
[01:32] <Seveas> [LethAL] , then google on for another page ;)
[01:32] <RockyBurt> hm, i just noticed that there is an update to gnome-power-manager available for breezy... but its still using an old very of gnome-power-manager (0.1.2)
[01:32] <elfredo> [LethAL]  1280x960 is no VGA mode, therefore unsupported
[01:32] <larsbjar> I only get to the boot loader. after that, screen goes out
[01:33] <[LethAL] > :(
[01:33] <Belial-> there's still no install/live DVD
[01:33] <Seveas> ...yet
[01:33] <Seveas> there will be one :)
[01:33] <Belial-> seveas: how soon?
[01:33] <Seveas> noidea
[01:34] <intelikey> larsbjar try at the boot prompt [esc]   E    select the line that is ubuntu and E to edit it  then where it says  vga=<blah>  set to vga=0   and  B to boot
[01:35] <Belial-> is it possible to burn the bootable install CD iso on a DVD-R?
[01:35] <larsbjar> ok
[01:35] <intelikey> k
[01:36] <mahangu> Belial-, shoould be able to mate
[01:36] <dooglus> which package is /usr/bin/md5sum in?
[01:36] <Belial-> mahangu: k thanks . guess I won't have to wait for the combo DVD then
[01:37] <intelikey> md5sum
[01:37] <dooglus> E: Couldn't find package md5sum
[01:37] <Kamion> Belial-: there is - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/
[01:37] <mahangu> after breezy installs will it boot the new kernel automatically?
[01:37] <[LethAL] > gb.archive.ubuntu.com appears to be down :(
[01:37] <rdw200169> wow, i can print in crossover office :)
[01:37] <LoRe> dooglus: dpkg -S /usr/bin/md5sum
[01:37] <Kamion> Belial-: I'll link it from releases.ubuntu.com when I get a chance
[01:37] <Belial-> Kamion: ok great thanks
[01:38] <Kamion> Belial-: releases.ubuntu.com didn't have the space for DVD images - was causing mirroring problems
[01:38] <intelikey> dooglus learn apt-cache find <blah>         use  "man apt-cache"  to learn more about it.
[01:38] <timalot> packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <intelikey> sorry its search not find
[01:38] <KenSentMe> intelikey, it's apt-cache search etc.
[01:38] <intelikey> apt-cache search md5sum
[01:39] <El_Che> albacker: at work I have gnome 2.8 on solaris, so i can not check, but i guess system-configuration editor
[01:39] <GNAM> azz
[01:39] <Kamion> Belial-: yes, you can burn a CD image onto a DVD-R, although personally I think that's a bit of a waste unless you're using DVD-RWs
[01:39] <GNAM> DVD's OUT!
[01:39] <marcin_ant> sooo it's pretty strange but I already have breezy - no new packages in apt so it seems that it is breezy
[01:39] <KenSentMe> intelikey: , sorry, too late
[01:39] <marcin_ant> soooo my question is - what is default firewall solution for ubuntu?
[01:39] <Belial-> Kamion: all out of CD-R:s .. and I've got a couple of hundred DVD-R:s
[01:39] <WinZ> Friends, what must be in sources.list now? After releasing breezy
[01:39] <intelikey> hehhe  you can catch me on the next blunder KenSentMe :)
[01:39] <albacker> El_Che,  and how can i start it from a terminal ?
[01:40] <Kamion> GNAM: about 4 hours and 20 minutes ago, yes ;)
[01:40] <poningru> marcin_ant: just like all linux
[01:40] <dooglus> intelikey: I don't think that helps much.  "apt-cache search md5sum" lists 5 packages which don't seem to contain /usr/bin/md5sum.  and "apt-cache search /usr/bin/md5sum" lists nothing
[01:40] <poningru> iptables
[01:40] <albacker> El_Che,  the system configuration...
[01:40] <mahangu> after breezy installs will it boot the new kernel automatically?
[01:40] <Belial-> Kamion: guess I'll get the DVD version now though
[01:40] <KenSentMe> intelikey: i was surprised i could actually correct someone right here, and then i'm too late
[01:40] <Kamion> dooglus: it's in coreutils; dpkg diverts it into place in an odd way
[01:40] <Kamion> dooglus: it used to be in dpkg
[01:40] <[LethAL] > mahangu, if you use grub, yes, but you'll have o reboot yourself ;)
[01:40] <dooglus> Kamion: I know it used to be in dpkg.   Where do I get the boot prompt? Ah
[01:41] <dooglus> but the version in dpkg is different than the version on my disk.
[01:41] <Kamion> dooglus: not in breezy it isn't
[01:41] <LoRe> dooglus: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search /usr/bin/md5sum; if you dont have md5sum installed
[01:41] <johnnybezak> wow apt is *slow* atm :)
[01:41] <Kamion> <cjwatson@riva ~>$ dpkg -c /mirror/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_1.13.10ubuntu4_i386.deb | grep md5sum
[01:41] <Kamion> <cjwatson@riva ~>$
[01:41] <LoRe> dooglus: if it is installed: dpkg -S /usr/bin/md5sum to find out from which package
[01:42] <timalot> just go to packages.ubuntu.com and save your self some trouble
[01:42] <Kamion> dooglus: it's in coreutils, installed as /usr/bin/md5sum.textutils and diverted into place
[01:42] <tzfardea> hello i have a problem with my ubuntu
[01:42] <intelikey> it should be the first thing on the screen after bios larsbjar      remember to press [esc]
[01:42] <tzfardea> i installed it yesterday
[01:42] <tzfardea> and something like every hour or 2 hours this happend:
[01:42] <tzfardea> http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8669/screenshot8yz.png
[01:43] <larsbjar> I dont get any bios on my screen afaik. Pressing esc on startup dont do much here
[01:43] <gdh> OK another lame question.. How can I make Totem play WMV? I have w32codecs already installed and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse with no joy - any advice?
[01:43] <dooglus> Kamion: what's this "diverted" thing?  I don't see it explained in dpkg(1)
[01:44] <Kamion> dooglus: dpkg-divert(8)
[01:44] <dooglus> aah, ok.
[01:44] <marcin_ant> poningru: well I know iptables are in almost every Linux
[01:44] <Belial-> gdh: videolan can play some wmvs
[01:44] <tzfardea> someone know what's the problem?
[01:44] <dooglus> Kamion: that should be in dpkg(1)'s "SEE ALSO" I would say
[01:44] <marcin_ant> poningru: but my question was about default iptables-frontend solution
[01:44] <marcin_ant> poningru: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Firewalls
[01:44] <MaTaKs> how to run clamav antivirus?
[01:44] <gdh> Belial-: Yep, I wanted to try thing 'the GNOME way' :)
[01:44] <intelikey> larsbjar i'm sorry, i'm going to have to hand you off to someone else.  i have to go now.   good luck with it.
[01:44] <Belial-> gdh: heh k
[01:44] <gdh> Belial-: The actual content I can play in mplayer if I need to :)
[01:44] <snarf> does cedega work well in amd64 ubuntu?
[01:44] <marcin_ant> poningru: one of the breezy goals
[01:44] <Kamion> dooglus: mm, possibly. it's a bit advanced compared to even the dpkg man page
[01:45] <larsbjar> ok thanx
[01:45] <Kamion> but maybe
[01:45] <intelikey> gooday every one.
[01:45] <MaTaKs> how to run clamav antivirus?
[01:45] <marcin_ant> hmm so no firewall frontend in breezy (firestarter not in main repo)
[01:45] <tzfardea> someone can help me please?
[01:45] <wezzer> oh no, I have big problems now
[01:45] <marcin_ant> then what about NetworkManager? not ready too?
[01:46] <wezzer> python2.3-imaging won't uninstall until python2.4-imaging installs and vice versa
[01:46] <poningru> marcin_ant: sorry what was the question?
[01:46] <poningru> marcin_ant: firestarter is in the main repo
[01:46] <poningru> err restricted I think
[01:47] <dooglus> is there any way to get the update to run 'lilo' for me after it upgrades the kernel?  if it doesn't, then I can't boot ubuntu afterwards and have to use a rescue CD
[01:47] <Jedrick> how to run clamav antivirus/
[01:47] <wezzer> oh man, my ubuntu is really messed up now
[01:47] <mahangu> whoa
[01:47] <marcin_ant> poningru: no it's not in main repo - shorewall is in main
[01:47] <mahangu> im gonna wait for the cd
[01:47] <poningru> !tell Jedrick about clamav
[01:48] <poningru> wtf
[01:48] <Cavallo> hi
[01:48] <larsbjar> I have installed Ubuntu breezy on a mac mini, and I know people have done this before. But when kernel is started, screen flashes for a second, and my CRT screen says the prequency is way too low (15Hz or something). Pressing [esc]  on startup gives yaboot bootmanager.... boot:  What do I do?
[01:48] <poningru> !info clamaav
[01:49] <Jedrick> !info clamaav
[01:49] <Jedrick> !info clamav
[01:49] <tzfardea> tzfardea hello i have a problem with my ubuntu
[01:49] <tzfardea> tzfardea i installed it yesterday
[01:49] <tzfardea> tzfardea and something like every hour or 2 hours this happend:
[01:49] <tzfardea> tzfardea http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/8669/screenshot8yz.png
[01:49] <ubotu> clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.87-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 63 kB, Installed size: 188 kB
[01:49] <poningru> marcin_ant: yeah you are right its not in restricted
[01:49] <tzfardea> someone? :\
[01:49] <poningru> its in universe
[01:49] <sayan> BREEEEEEEEEEEEEEZYY
[01:49] <poningru> woah
[01:49] <poningru> tzfardea: what vid card is it?
[01:50] <elfredo> tzfardea looks like your xserver crashed
[01:50] <nacho_> estas?
[01:50] <Kamion> dooglus: I thought it did that already
[01:50] <tzfardea> umm.. i got geforce 6200 TM
[01:50] <Kamion> larsbjar: try video=ofonly
[01:50] <Kamion> maybe?
[01:50] <marcin_ant> hmm don't get me wrong but how ubuntu-devel guys decide where they tag something 'release' is breezy released because of the release date or because it is really ready to release?
[01:51] <Kamion> dooglus: provided you have an /etc/lilo.conf, that is
[01:51] <marcin_ant> or maybe they needed a reason to party or something?
[01:51] <Jaivaz> Of course, we're all nerds.
[01:51] <Kamion> marcin_ant: both; if there'd been a real showstopper, we'd have delayed, but we try very very hard not to (and haven't yet)
[01:51] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: don't think so
[01:51] <Jaivaz> :-P
[01:51] <and_> have problems with breezy live cd : user creation fails if estonian is choosed little bit more in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=406492#post406492 and similar bug in kubuntu in here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9149
[01:51] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: i guess the packages are all tested ok
[01:52] <luite> marcin_ant: you have to release sometime, otherwise you'd get a debian-like release schedule ;)
[01:52] <larsbjar> Kamion, on it
[01:52] <prower> I think it's probably important to mention that Canonical seems to focus and pay attention to quality issues rather closely...I doubt they'd make a release if there was something seriously wrong with it just because it's the day they set out on :>
[01:53] <larsbjar> Kamion, I get the same as ever... blablabla.. \\video=ofonly: No such file or directory
[01:53] <GNULinuxer> prower: i agree
[01:53] <Kamion> larsbjar: video=ofonly appended to the normal boot argument. If this is the installer, 'install video=ofonly'; if it's an installed system, 'Linux video=ofonly'.
[01:54] <larsbjar> ok :)
[01:54] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: ok they are buildable and it's cool but I don't see big difference on desktop between hoary and breezy
[01:54] <ratboy> heya dudes
[01:54] <ratboy> anyone heard of a cool newsgrabber ?
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: that's the same difference between gnome 2.10 & 2.12
[01:55] <ratboy> pan is sloow
[01:55] <C-Keen> slrn
[01:55] <Kamion> prower: we do get stricter and stricter about what counts as a showstopper as release day approaches, but even at the end there's still the possibility of a showstopper; we have delayed non-final releases before due to serious problems
[01:55] <marcin_ant> maybe I'm just a little disappointed because I see the same bugs in gnome all the time
[01:55] <larsbjar> wow :) I got a screen, funny colors, but still.... Do I need to do this every time or is it now permanent?
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: like?
[01:55] <wolfseye> Hi. I have a question. I just installed Kubuntu 5.10 and would like to know how I can get things like PROFTPD and those, or I do I have to use VSFTP ?
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> wolfseye: apt-get install proftpd
[01:56] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: first of all I really hate all these 'display/rendering/whatever' bugs
[01:56] <apokryphos> Kamion: Kubuntu still not available from releases.ubuntu.com? Is it still syncing?
[01:56] <wolfseye> and Programms like KVirc, are they not anymore in the released ?
[01:56] <wolfseye> i remember them of old KDE releases
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: what bugs? are they filed?
[01:56] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: these are gtk or widget or gtk-engines bugs
[01:56] <Kamion> prower: e.g. http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-March/005326.html
[01:57] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: yes most of them I think
[01:57] <selinium> Is there a stright upgrade from Hoary to Breezy64bit?
[01:57] <apokryphos> wolfseye: it's not an official kde app, and not even in extragear, but it's in ubuntu's repos
[01:57] <apokryphos> selinium: hoary 32-bit, that is? No.
[01:57] <wolfseye> and PROFTPD is not to get via apt-get, I tried it. It doesnt find it
[01:57] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: mainly there are problems with transparency in gtk themes and things like this
[01:57] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: another thing are gnome features
[01:57] <selinium> HI apokryphos, ok I will sort it out later then! :)
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: hmm ... but that's a GNOME issue ... nothing to do with Ubuntu
[01:57] <RedGhost> dl done, installing 5.10 :D
[01:58] <C-Keen> wolfseye: it is available
[01:58] <C-Keen> wolfseye: maybe you need to include multiverses
[01:58] <apokryphos> it's in Universe
[01:58] <Flash> hmm
[01:58] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: we have breezy and still no beagle in main repo
[01:58] <Flash> wireless is working to
[01:58] <Flash> not bad
[01:58] <looga> how can i get programs such as gimp to always open up in full screen when i am in gui?
[01:58] <C-Keen> wolfseye: proftpd - Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon
[01:58] <snarf> ubuntu doesnt work with my touchpad :(
[01:58] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: is mono in the main repo?
[01:58] <Kamion> apokryphos: there've been some mirroring problems, still being resolved
[01:58] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: and we still don't have global indexing/search feature in Yelp
[01:58] <wolfseye> C-Keen: How do I do that ? Sorry, noob in Linux ;)
[01:59] <Kamion> apokryphos: you may find it's on some mirrors but not others
[01:59] <C-Keen> wolfseye: open synaptic
[01:59] <pinucset> one think, i havent received any new packet today :S
[01:59] <wolfseye> got it opem
[01:59] <apokryphos> alrighty
[01:59] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: still no NetworkManager or another nice network management tool for 'dumb users'
[01:59] <apokryphos> !tell wolfseye about repositories
[01:59] <C-Keen> wolfseye: under Settings -> Sources..
[01:59] <RockyBurt> grr... ok, my current f-spot on ubuntu/breezy is usless, freezes on import of pics
[01:59] <marcin_ant> GNULinuxer: and still any firewall solution installed by default with breezy
[02:00] <Kamion> marcin_ant: we're not going to start delaying for feature enhancements that don't make the cut, I'm afraid.
[02:00] <GNULinuxer> marcin_ant: Kamion is right
[02:00] <RockyBurt> Kamion: i use fire-starter on ubuntu (apt-get install fire-starter) ... works quite nicely
[02:00] <wolfseye> ok C-Keen, and now ?
[02:00] <RockyBurt> marcin_ant: i use fire-starter on ubuntu (apt-get install fire-starter) ... works quite nicely
[02:00] <RockyBurt> sorry
[02:00] <paulproteus> For what it's worth, http://paulproteus.acm.jhu.edu/ubuntu-5.10/ has torrents |  has the Ubuntu 5.10 torrents.  Feel free to put it in the topic.
[02:00] <wolfseye> Hi
[02:01] <C-Keen> wolfseye: add a repository -> check the last two checkboxes (universe / multiverse)
[02:01] <C-Keen> click ok
[02:01] <marcin_ant> RockyBurt: 1. yes I know that firestarter is nice - but that's all
[02:01] <C-Keen> refresh and search again
[02:01] <marcin_ant> RockyBurt: 2. firestarter is not in main breezy repo - so user has to know about this tool to install and use
[02:01] <Kamion> marcin_ant: some people find that objectionable, but we feel it's better to guarantee people a six-month cycle so that (among many other things) they know that if a feature doesn't make this release then it's not the end of the world
[02:02] <Kamion> a firewalling tool is not a showstopper, because no ports are open by default anyway, so any servers you install you presumably intended to use
[02:02] <marcin_ant> RockyBurt: 3. try to use firestarter with more than 2 NIC's and then you will see that this tool is nice but nothing more yet
[02:02] <Kamion> it's a nice-to-have, but we can afford time to do it right
[02:02] <_mindspin> what about fwbuilder?
[02:02] <pinucset> one think, i havent received any new packet today, why? :S
[02:02] <onkarshinde> Anybodu who has done clean install of breezy. Does it automatically add your remainig partition to Computer section?
[02:02] <_mindspin> does anyone know which version is included in breezy??
[02:02] <Seveas> pinucset, breezy is released - stable.
[02:03] <Seveas> !info fwbuilder breezy
[02:03] <Kamion> _mindspin:  fwbuilder |    2.0.7-1 | breezy/universe | source, amd64, hppa, i386, ia64, powerpc, sparc
[02:03] <ubotu> fwbuilder: (Firewall administration tool GUI), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.7-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1157 kB, Installed size: 3576 kB
[02:03] <daloydoy> anyone here successful with dot matrix printers?
[02:03] <_mindspin> thats fine
[02:03] <timalot> nice
[02:03] <snarf> anyone know if the programs magic and spice are in breezy, universe, whateververse?
[02:04] <apokryphos> snarf: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <onkarshinde> snarf: Search here. packages.ubuntu.com
[02:04] <snarf> cool, thanks
[02:04] <marcin_ant> Kamion: so you just want to keep up with release date - and it is not much important that there are bugs in default ubuntu desktop (gnome) that are older than me ;) ?
[02:04] <oz> Hello all
[02:05] <oz>  i want to thank those that helped me get my dvd's to play on Ubuntu breezy
[02:05] <marcin_ant> Kamion: anyway I don't want to 'troll' here ;)
[02:05] <oz> Now I have just one problem to solve and that is
[02:05] <why-oh-why> Hiya!
[02:05] <why-oh-why> Anyone have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)?
[02:05] <why-oh-why> I wanna shit on my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)!
[02:05] <oz> I have an nvidia fx 5200 PCI not AGp card on the system
[02:05] <oz> I need to get this to work.
[02:05] <timalot> no driver?
[02:05] <Kamion> marcin_ant: that's a deliberately pejorative description of the process; yes, sticking to a release schedule is important to us; nevertheless we endeavour to fix as many bugs as possible, while recognising that it is never possible to fix everything and if you wait until you do then you'll never release anything
[02:05] <marcin_ant> Kamion: I'm trying to fill bug report when I got some time - unfortunately I'm not C developer so I cannot fix them
[02:05] <oz>  I know that I will have to disable the intel video drivers but I need step by step on this one
[02:06] <why-oh-why> Hiya!
[02:06] <why-oh-why> I wanna shit on my Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)!
[02:06] <marcin_ant> Kamion: and Breezy is really nice so I'm happy that there is such thing
[02:06] <marcin_ant> Kamion: but I'm still a little dissapointed that things move forward so slow
[02:06] <apokryphos> why-oh-why: language please
[02:07] <onkarshinde> marcin_ant: What is your PC configuration?
[02:07] <looga> do you guys know how to tweak ubuntu so that (some selected) programs always open up in maximized window (fullscreen) mode?
[02:07] <oz> thanks again for the help in getting dvd's to play on Breezy
[02:07] <apokryphos> why-oh-why: and go to #ubuntu-offtopic for general chatter
[02:07] <oz> I had to dodge the badger a bit but it works fine
[02:07] <wolfseye> C-Keen, qry...
[02:08] <oz> can someone help me with my nvidia card PCI not AGP/
[02:08] <ivar> so, I've read the upgrade instructions... i'm quite short on diskspace. how do I purge the deprecated warty packages after the upgrade is done ?
[02:09] <TerminX> ivar: apt-get autoclean
[02:09] <ivar> TerminX, cool. thanks
[02:09] <Kamion> apt-get autoclean doesn't remove packages
[02:09] <BiSK-8> hello
[02:09] <TerminX> it removes the actual files
[02:10] <Kamion> you need to look for obsolete packages with a package manager to do that
[02:10] <TerminX> which is what I thought he meant
[02:10] <BiSK-8> in the topic i read: http://tinyurl.com/74xlu but the link wont work
[02:10] <b0nkb0nk> hi
[02:10] <looga> TerminX: without autoclean, unused/unnecessary warty packages will remain on an upgraded breezy computer?
[02:10] <TerminX> I dunno, it's 5 AM and I've been up all night, I think I read it wrong :)
[02:10] <Kamion> BiSK-8: works for me, redirects to http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000038.html
[02:10] <ivar> Kamion, how does one determine if a package is obsolete ?
[02:10] <TerminX> looga: files in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:10] <b0nkb0nk> Seveas: are ya awake?
[02:10] <looga> what's that about?
[02:11] <Kamion> ivar: depends on the package manager. I'm a dselect-using dinosaur, so I look for the "Obsolete/Local Packages" section
[02:11] <looga> TerminX: what's that .../apt/archives about?
[02:11] <Kamion> ivar: there aren't that many packages from warty that will remain following an upgrade, though
[02:11] <BiSK-8> thx kamion
[02:11] <TerminX> looga: it's where debs go when retrieved by apt
[02:11] <allan> Hello. Is there any place I could check if a pcmcia Wireless card is working with Ubuntu - I wanna buy a new one but I'd like to make sure it works?
[02:12] <allan> something like a Hardware compability list or sth
[02:12] <ivar> Kamion,  ok thanks.. it's just that diskspace is a major issue for me right now.
[02:12] <looga> TerminX: i just checked my  /var/cache/apt/archives, are these files still in use?
[02:12] <BiSK-8> kamion: btw, the new distro of breezy, is it better than the 1 i downloaded 2 weeks ago?
[02:12] <ivar> has anyone measured diskspace usage of breezy vs. warty ?
[02:12] <irvin> BiSK-8, yes it is
[02:12] <Kamion> BiSK-8: various bugs fixed. you can upgrade to the release rather than having to download whole new CD sets
[02:12] <Belial-> BiSK-8: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:13] <TerminX> looga: they're never in use unless you're installing the package ;p
[02:13] <TerminX> apt-get clean will remove all of them, apt-get autoclean will remove everything that isn't the current version IIRC
[02:13] <looga> Can someone tell me: after upgrading to breezy, what happens to all the packages that were in use in hoary, but not used anymore in breezy? are they automatically removed/uninstalled?
[02:14] <js_> archive.ubuntu.com is quite loaded, no?
[02:14] <BiSK-8> belial- i know, but i want it on my other hdd...
[02:14] <BiSK-8> + i want the install disk 2 add to my collection
[02:14] <Kamion> looga: depends whether anything conflicts with them. in general no, but in general we try to avoid gratuitously renaming packages, so ...
[02:14] <BiSK-8> ^^
[02:14] <BiSK-8> thx
[02:14] <looga> Kamion: so......?
[02:14] <looga> Kamion: i'm a newbie. i'm slow. please help me connect your dots.
[02:15] <Kamion> looga: if the package has the same name in breezy as in hoary, it will totally replace the old version
[02:15] <looga> Kamion:gotcha
[02:15] <allan> btw does Ubuntu and Debian use the same apt-get sources and do they both run the same .deb packs ?
[02:15] <apokryphos> looga: you can also use deborphan and debfoster for seeing if you have unused libraries/packages
[02:15] <Kamion> looga: it's only if a package is renamed, or deprecated completely (which is relatively rare) that the old package can stay around
[02:15] <looga> kamion, so there's no need for what TerminX's telling: autoclean and clean?
[02:15] <apokryphos> allan: they use the same apt system, but not the same apt sources
[02:15] <Belial-> Kamion: hoary packages are compiled with gcc 3.3.x? the C++ ABI changed so some binaries might not be compatible?
[02:15] <Kamion> allan: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/document_view
[02:15] <Danoman> Are there any different between yesterdays 5.10 rc and the released 5.10 ?
[02:15] <Kamion> Belial-: correct
[02:16] <TerminX> looga: autoclean and clean don't uninstall packages
[02:16] <apokryphos> Danoman: yes
[02:16] <allan> Kamion: thx
[02:16] <TerminX> they remove the debs for old packages
[02:16] <Kamion> Danoman: yes, one week's stabilisation
[02:16] <apokryphos> Danoman: the RC is the release candidate released some time ago; the ones now are the shiny new Breezy ISOs
[02:16] <apokryphos> Danoman: of course you can just use apt to upgrade your system rather than re-downloading the new ISO
[02:16] <Kamion> which involved a number of changes
[02:17] <Kamion> apokryphos: FWIW, I do see the Kubuntu release on releases.u.c from here
[02:18] <apokryphos> Kamion: interesting; I'm getting a straight timeout on r.u.c now
[02:18] <Kamion> apokryphos: it's extremely busy
[02:18] <Seveas> !info  p0rn-comfort
[02:18] <Seveas> !info  p0rn-comfort breezy
[02:18] <Seveas> hehe the bot is not yet updated :)
[02:19] <apokryphos> can imagine; and it's not slashdoted yet even 8)
[02:19] <Kamion> thankyou slashdot for small mercies
[02:19] <apokryphos> Seveas: doubt he would be; haven't seen cafuego around today yet
[02:19] <Seveas> apokryphos, ever heard of crontab? ;)
[02:20] <Prof_Frink> Slashdotting == good for the torrents
[02:20] <Kamion> oh well, better than the 4.10 preview, where it was nearly impossible to do any work in the datacentre for two or three days afterwards
[02:20] <apokryphos> Seveas: blootbots never cease to amaze me =)
[02:21] <athlon> now that breezy is out, does that mean  ubuntu is once again synchronized with debian's repo ? iow, can I add sarge repo to my sources.list and expect most things to work fine ?
[02:21] <Seveas> athlon, no
[02:22] <looga> TerminX: what then do autoclean and clean do?
[02:22] <jhank> seveas: i was using your deb-source to install skype... it worked without any errors, but it takes ages until it has started... do you have an idea?
[02:22] <athlon> Seveas,  ouch, so whats the problem ?
[02:22] <Seveas> jhank, no, I don't use skype myself
[02:22] <apokryphos> jhank: skype takes notoriously long to start up unfortunately
[02:22] <TerminX> looga: I told you, they remove the debs for old packages
[02:23] <looga> TerminX: sorry .
[02:23] <jhank> sowhy is that?
[02:23] <Seveas> athlon, mixinf them is unneccessary and can lead to problems...
[02:23] <Jedrick> help pls.. how to configure shorewall?
[02:23] <looga> TerminX:  so debs from old packages aren't automatically removed?
[02:23] <TerminX> right.
[02:23] <looga> TerminX:  is there a reason to keep debs from old packages+
[02:23] <looga> ?
[02:23] <liable> Jedrick: theres great docs at there website..
[02:23] <satafterh> what that command for disrto upgraade
[02:23] <apokryphos> looga: you can use apt to remove them; see man apt-get
[02:23] <Danoman> anyone else than me that had problems with playing mp3 i xxms under rc 5.10? The songs are lagging?
[02:24] <apokryphos> satafterh: /topic
[02:24] <looga> satafterh: please read and follow the topic
[02:24] <Jedrick> ye but its so complicated.. im a newbie on linux i need someone to guide me :)
[02:24] <TerminX> looga: not really, unless you're running the devel branch
[02:24] <jhank> apokryphos do you know why that is the case in skype or what it doesn't load my contactlist on 1st start?
[02:24] <bubu> what do I do if my superuser passwd isnt accepted
[02:25] <looga> TerminX: do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?
[02:25] <apokryphos> jhank: haven't heard of that before I'm afraid
[02:25] <TerminX> you said you were low on disk space?
[02:25] <looga> TerminX: are you talking to me?
[02:25] <TerminX> yes..
[02:25] <jhank> apokryphos you mean the contactlist issue?
[02:25] <apokryphos> yes
[02:25] <bouil> i have a strange problem. I have burned breezy, i have checked the MD5 on the cd (on two differents readers), but when i try to install it to an empty pc, i got an installation error. Complaining about bad md5 for linux-restricted-modules and nvida-kernel-module....
[02:26] <looga> i have disk space, but even if i have 1,0000000000000 gigabytes, i want all the space that i can have.
[02:26] <looga> TerminX: see above line.
[02:26] <Jedrick> liable: what's the links for the shorewall site pls
[02:26] <jhank> apokryphos i'm wondering when skype will release a version which works properly ;)
[02:26] <apokryphos> looga: then remove all distributions :P
[02:26] <Seveas> jhank, when pigs fly
[02:26] <TerminX> well, if you don't mind redownloading a package in the rare circumstance you may need to reinstall it, run apt-get clean regularly :p
[02:27] <liable> Jedrick: cmon dude, google, jesus.
[02:27] <bouil> did somebody know how to resolve my problem.. ?
[02:27] <Seveas> looga, or set Apt::Get::Autoclean
[02:27] <apokryphos> looga: use apt-get to remove the debs in the respective folder, and use debfoster and deborphan as I said
[02:27] <jhank> seveas hehe you might be right...
[02:27] <looga> Seveas,do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?
[02:27] <apokryphos> jhank: I haven't used it for some time, but I was using the pack from klik (just to try it out) and it worked well
[02:28] <jhank> apokryphos is klik a source or what is it?
[02:28] <daloydoy> any solution of poor dot matrix printer output?
[02:28] <apokryphos> !klik
[02:28] <ubotu> hmm... klik is at  http://dot.kde.org/1126867980/
[02:28] <zenlinuxNH> Yahoo for breezy!
[02:28] <looga> Seveas: i don't see autoclean in hoary repos. Is autoclean only for breezy?
[02:28] <cafuego_> arrgh
[02:28] <jhank> okay thanks i'l give it a try
[02:28] <apokryphos> jhank: a truly revolutionary invention :)
[02:28] <cafuego_> zenlinuxNH: No, Yahoo is an evil empire
[02:29] <zenlinuxNH> :-/
[02:29] <looga> clean is not in hoary repositories either.
[02:29] <apokryphos> eh?
[02:29] <TerminX> ...they aren't programs
[02:29] <looga> apokryphos: how do i use apt-get to remove debs?
[02:29] <damo21> release party?
[02:29] <TerminX> you've used a terminal right?
[02:29] <damo21> :)
[02:29] <zenlinuxNH> But my question to everyone is: will YOU accept the "Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge"?  http://www.zenlinux.com/ubuntu_challenge/
[02:29] <looga> TerminX: me?
[02:29] <apokryphos> looga: man apt-get
[02:29] <TerminX> looga: yes, you
[02:29] <jhank> apokryphos yes it seems so thanks mate
[02:29] <wezzer> is there a command that installs all default ubuntu packages
[02:29] <TerminX> looga: apt-get clean
[02:29] <wezzer> it seems that I have lost almost all of them
[02:29] <bubu> my  superuser password is lost. Can I reset it or something?
[02:29] <ivar> you guys are hilarious !
[02:30] <looga> TerminX: is apt-get for hoary?
[02:30] <apokryphos> wezzer: install ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <wezzer> apokryphos: thanks
[02:30] <looga> TerminX: how come i can't find clean nor autoclean in synaptic?
[02:30] <apokryphos> looga: what does that mean? Does hoary have it, you mean? Of course.
[02:30] <damo21> LOL install challenge
[02:30] <TerminX> oh fsck this
[02:30] <ivar> iooga. autoclean is an argument
[02:30] <ivar> to apt-get
[02:30] <damo21> OMFG
[02:30] <Renski> zenlinuxNH: I accept your challenge
[02:31] <zenlinuxNH> nice! be sure to check out the videos
[02:31] <zenlinuxNH> :)
[02:31] <ivar> that will set apt-get on oyur unnecessary/cached packaged
[02:31] <haf> can anyone help me? with apt-get, using the TAB key doesn't work with "breezy", it doesn't complete my written stuff
[02:31] <damo21> zenlinux u geek
[02:31] <looga> apokryphos: how come i can't find autoclean nor clean in synaptic?
[02:31] <apokryphos> haf: you need to enable bash autocompletion
[02:31] <damo21> :)
[02:31] <cafuego> stupid terminal
[02:31] <ivar> haf, i'm sure someone can help you, as long as you don't ask about autoclean ;)
[02:31] <zenlinuxNH> indeed: my cube at work is decorated with Ubuntu logos
[02:31] <apokryphos> looga: because it's a feature synaptic lacks
[02:31] <michael> hey, how come when i just installed breezy there were two erase whole disk options, one referring to lvm?
[02:31] <looga> apokryphos:
[02:31] <looga> apokryphos: i see.
[02:32] <looga> apokryphos:do you recommend i do clean and autoclean before, after, or both before and after i upgrade to breezy?
[02:32] <cafuego> michael: If you're masochistically incined you can use LVM instead of just partitions.
[02:32] <bubu> damnit. how do I fix a lost su password?
[02:32] <apokryphos> looga: if you're low on space, before. If you've got plenty -- just after
[02:32] <haf> thanks, I'll try to find out how to activate the autocompletion (did this once on kanotix *g*)
[02:32] <apokryphos> bubu: sudo passwd
[02:32] <zoot_> [LethAL] : re the gksudo and synaptic - had to be running a WM (which creates the Xauthority file) - so I installed WDM and all's well :)
[02:32] <damo21> base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/kernel/failed-initrd-tools-install ??
[02:32] <bubu> k
[02:32] <irvin> bubu: boot in recovery mode
[02:32] <looga> apokryphos: if i do it after, will it be as effective as doing it before?
[02:32] <allan> Is there any place I could check if a pcmcia Wireless card is working with Ubuntu? - I wanna buy a new one but I'd like to make sure it works
[02:32] <apokryphos> haf: edit .bashrc and enter ". /etc/bash_completion"
[02:33] <cafuego> crud, au.archive is being _hammered_
[02:33] <apokryphos> looga: if you do it after it will remove *all* debs that apt got -- you can view them in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:33] <damo21> i cant get breezy on my laptop it keeps failing
[02:33] <El_Che> cafuego: duh :)
[02:33] <Kamion> damo21: alt-f3 and look for error messages there
[02:33] <haf> thank you :)
[02:33] <apokryphos> looga: if you do it before you will just be removing them in two stages
[02:33] <Kamion> damo21: smells of a scratched CD or a dirty CD drive to me, though
[02:33] <looga> apokryphos: so i'm just wasting time by doing it before, right?
[02:34] <apokryphos> looga: slightly
[02:34] <looga> apokryphos: why slightly?
[02:34] <apokryphos> looga: you wouldn't be if you didn't have enough space to cope with all the .debs
[02:34] <Kamion> michael: was part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerVolumeManagement
[02:35] <cafuego> long live the internode mirror :-)
[02:35] <Kamion> in retrospect that goal didn't really achieve everything we set out to achieve with it
[02:35] <looga> apokryphos: i understand. since i have much space, i could just do it after.
[02:35] <damo21> Kamion: can u help me im not sure what to do with this
[02:35] <apokryphos> indeed
[02:35] <basvg> hi guys, during the install of breezy I had a nice graphical bootsplash.... but now that the install is completely finished I noticed that the text scrolls by again
[02:35] <basvg> does anyone know how to get the graphical bootsplash back?
[02:35] <damo21> packages have unmet dependencies
[02:35] <apokryphos> basvg: hm, that shouldn't have happened
[02:36] <basvg> apokryphos: what shouldn't have happened?
[02:36] <Taliesin`> (cafuego): internode finally have it updated huh?
[02:36] <apokryphos> basvg: do you have usplash? dpkg -l|grep usplash  ...gives?
[02:36] <Kamion> damo21: well, there should be dpkg output on alt-f3 about the installation of initramfs-tools
[02:36] <apokryphos> basvg: you should still have the usplash, that is.
[02:36] <Taliesin`> (cafuego): wasnt updated 2 hours ago :P FileArena was cranking with the updates thou *yeay*
[02:36] <basvg> lemme check
[02:36] <Kamion> damo21: does it look like that was successful, or are there error messages?
[02:36] <basvg> apokryphos: it claims that is installed (0.1-22)...
[02:37] <Kamion> damo21: oh, "packages have unmet dependencies", didn't see that. Is it more specific than that?
[02:37] <michael> woah, not complaining, just curious, does anyone else get only with ubuntu, the forward and refresh buttons in firefox being the back arrow?
[02:37] <damo21> Kamion: it says base-config: Depends: gettext-base but is not going to be installed
[02:37] <basvg> apokryphos: perhaps I should reinstall (apt-get --reinstall install usplash) ?
[02:37] <apokryphos> basvg: nope; that sounds right
[02:37] <looga> i'm going to take the plunge into breezy now. i'm nervous.
[02:37] <Kamion> damo21: ok, sounds like something failed earlier on; I'd (a) try burning your CD at a lower speed, (b) if that doesn't help, invest in a CD / CD-drive cleaning kit
[02:38] <Kamion> because we do know that all the packages in the released images are installable
[02:38] <basvg> apokryphos: it seems that usplash doesn't have a man-page.. any thoughts on where I Can start looking?
[02:38] <apokryphos> basvg: try doing a sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:38] <damo21> Kamion: yeah i wish i had a few blanks this stupid rw cd is buggered
[02:38] <damo21> :P
[02:40] <damo21> how do i unmount the cdrom during the install to eject?
[02:40] <basvg> apokryphos: ah, that claims `searching for splash image .... none found`
[02:40] <michael> so lvm is a risky option on the installer then, yeah?
[02:40] <damo21> ive dropped to the terminal but i dont have many tools
[02:40] <Renski> basvg: permissions of the splash image?
[02:40] <Renski> or/and folder?
[02:41] <damo21> cant even find fstab
[02:41] <Renski> basvg, nether do I
[02:41] <apokryphos> basvg: that actually doesn't mean it doesn't work, as far as I know -- mine has always said that (and it has for others too), while it still works.
[02:41] <cafuego> dpkg -L usplash | grep so
[02:41] <Renski> basvg: chmod 777 /* -R
[02:41] <Renski> :p
[02:41] <wrabbit> hey again... I'm having a little trouble. At times... when I ask to shutdown, it freezes towards the end and just sits there.  Any idea as to why?
[02:41] <cafuego> It's not trivial to change it.
[02:41] <Kamion> damo21: umount /cdrom; eject
[02:41] <Kamion> ... should do it
[02:42] <cafuego> Or did you mean grub splash? Just in /boot/grub/splashimages/* and referece the file in the menu.lst file.
[02:42] <damo21> kamion:  /bin/sh: eject: not found
[02:42] <damo21> lol
[02:42] <os2mac> stupid question.... what happens when I run the install disk on my winxp boxen?
[02:42] <Kamion> damo21: anna-install eject-udeb, try again
[02:42] <basvg> I mean the nice ubuntu logo displayed on the center of the screen while the <service> [ok]  messages scroll by
[02:43] <wrabbit> os2mac, it'll ask if you want to install over a particular partition etc
[02:43] <occy> w00p
[02:43] <wrabbit> pretty step by step
[02:43] <apokryphos> basvg: see if it works now
[02:43] <basvg> the dpkg -L camed up with a /usr/lib/something... that file exsits and has -rw--r--r-- permissions
[02:43] <damo21> anna-install!!! wow
[02:43] <wrabbit> anybody running xfce4?
[02:43] <Kamion> os2mac: it should also offer automatic resizing of your WinXP partition to fit Ubuntu into the free space
[02:43] <damo21> :)
[02:43] <Hendric> breezy is out!! woah!!!!
[02:43] <basvg> apokryphos: ok, before trying anything else I'll reboot
[02:43] <Kamion> damo21: (this is dodgy installer hacking, but never mind)
[02:43] <wrabbit> if so.... do you find it alot quicker than gnome?
[02:44] <damo21> hehe
[02:44] <vengeful> wrabbit, yes
[02:44] <basvg> yes!!
[02:44] <wrabbit> vengeful, you're using it now?
[02:44] <basvg> the reconfigure thingy fixed it!
[02:44] <gasher> help
[02:44] <vengeful> yes
[02:45] <apokryphos> basvg: excellent; thought so :)
[02:45] <Aravi> Just installed ubuntu on my laptop, during the install I wasn't prompted for a root password.
[02:45] <gasher> proble; with dreanwear
[02:45] <basvg> apokryphos: thanks buddy!
[02:45] <apokryphos> !tell Aravi about root
[02:45] <Renski> Aravi: you dont need one
[02:45] <vengeful> aravi..welcome to sudo
[02:45] <wrabbit> vengeful: apt-get install xfce4? Will I have to change operatin systems or is it still Ubuntu
[02:45] <os2mac> Release just hit slashdot.... stand by for the smoking server
[02:45] <vengeful> i did it from synaptic...but should be same :-P
[02:45] <Renski> Aravi: when ever you want to do something in root, prefix the command with sudo
[02:45] <vengeful> just log out when its installed
[02:46] <wrabbit> so just a restart'll do it
[02:46] <vengeful> yeh
[02:46] <Renski> e.g. sudo vim /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:46] <Aravi> sudo: unable to lookup aegis by gethostbyname()
[02:46] <wrabbit> is it easy to get back to gnome if I don't like it
[02:46] <wrabbit> ?
[02:46] <gasher> i have just install coldfusionmx7 on my system
[02:46] <apokryphos> os2mac: ouch 8)
[02:46] <vengeful> yeps wrabbit
[02:46] <os2mac> I didn't post it...
[02:46] <wrabbit> alrighty.... I'll try it now
[02:46] <os2mac> I promise.
[02:46] <wrabbit> cheers
[02:46] <vengeful> you select which one u wanna login with
[02:46] <Renski> Aravi: whats the full command you just used?
[02:46] <sheera_22f> hi
[02:46] <vengeful> at the login screen
[02:46] <wrabbit> vengeful, really? that's awesome.
[02:47] <gasher> but i can locate /opt/coldfusionmx7/bin
[02:47] <Aravi> sudo modprobe tg3
[02:47] <mwe> Aravi: that's nothing to worry to much about, probably /etc/hosts needs tweaking
[02:47] <wrabbit> vengeful, will I have to set it up manually or will it automatically give me the options?  I'm asking now because knowing my luck, I won't be able to get it working
[02:47] <gasher> can some one help me
[02:47] <mwe> !tell Aravi about root
[02:47] <vengeful> it does it all for you
[02:47] <Renski> Aravi: sounds like a problem with modprobe rather than sudo then
[02:47] <wrabbit> gasher, better to just ask the main question than ask to ask a question
[02:47] <wrabbit> vengeful, Thanks! off to try now
[02:47] <Aravi> it happens regardless of command.
[02:47] <vengeful> just logout..select session..click xfce
[02:48] <vengeful> and then login
[02:48] <wrabbit> k
[02:48] <joachim_> first time I put in the breezy install CD, it popped up a dialog asking me if I wanted to upgrade from it.... how do I get that to happen again?
[02:48] <wrabbit> I'll be back if it works
[02:48] <Aravi> At the moment it isn't detecting either network (ethernet or WiFi)
[02:48] <gasher> the problem i cannot get coldfusion to start
[02:48] <Renski> Aravi: thats insane, sudo has no business using gethostbyname()
[02:48] <Aravi> Both are Broadcom, ethernet uses the tg3 driver
[02:49] <mwe> Aravi: sudo should work regardless of the warning that it can't look up your hostname
[02:49] <vengeful> ethernet should be ok
[02:49] <vengeful> open up networking
[02:49] <vengeful> see whats in there
[02:49] <Aravi> No devices detected
[02:49] <damo21> i burnt the cd at 4x but still having problems :(
[02:49] <vengeful> oh unlucky
[02:49] <vengeful> you on breezy?
[02:49] <Aravi> Yep
[02:49] <Aravi> Downloaded it an hour ago.
[02:50] <Aravi> ifconfig returns nothing, not even lo
[02:50] <juxella> hello ppl.... finished installing breezy on a dell Optiplex620 with X300SE graphics... X startup breaks with "no screens found"
[02:50] <gasher> wrabbit i cannot start coldfusionmx7
[02:50] <gasher> no such directory found
[02:50] <gasher> wat shd i do?
[02:51] <allan> I have a laptop with a Pentium 3 600 Mhz, 4mb video and 64mb ram (i can extend the ram to 256) - Will Breezy even run on it? :P
[02:51] <gasher> help
[02:51] <gasher> help guys
[02:51] <gasher> i need help
[02:51] <damo21> juxella u need to edit /etc/xorg.conf or run the xorg-configure thing again
[02:51] <vengeful> video might be a prob
[02:51] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:51] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:51] <gasher> i ve to work on this for my project
[02:51] <gasher> pls help
[02:51] <allan> damn
[02:51] <apokryphos> gasher: please don't be annoying
[02:51] <bwlang> allan: sure... but i'd recommend that you use a window manger other than gnome... try blackbox
[02:51] <Aravi> gasher, exactly what is wrong
[02:51] <juxella> damo21: i have no clue how to edit that (what should i setup).... can you give me more info?
[02:51] <allan> bwlang: thx
[02:51] <apokryphos> gasher: just ask your question; if someone is able/willing to help, they will. :)
[02:51] <RedGhost> new boot gui is nice
[02:51] <avalost> no, blackbox is obsolete
[02:52] <gasher> i just install coldfusionmx7
[02:52] <allan> what then ?
[02:52] <avalost> use fluxbox instead or openbox
[02:52] <allan> k
[02:52] <gasher> apache en everything works
[02:52] <Aravi> hmm, can't add hostname to /etc/hosts
[02:52] <damo21> someone tell juxella about xorg.conf
[02:52] <gasher> but i can locate /opt/coldfusionmx7/bin
[02:53] <gasher> to start it
[02:54] <juxella> eh, im going to try and do it by hand, its wierd tho, its the first time the xorg installation broke from the box... and im using a preety standard graphix... eh. hope i fix it soon
[02:54] <DShepherd> does anyone know how I can install Firefox 1.5beta2 with synaptic (apt-get)?
[02:55] <sk545> are there any other apt mirrors besides archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:55] <haro> I can not see any charactors in my firefox...
[02:55] <haro> What can I do?
[02:56] <damo21> is there a tool to find the fastest apt mirror?
[02:56] <erchache> hhhheeeeeellllllp
[02:56] <erchache> i upgrade a server from hoary to breezy and crash
[02:56] <haro> I am ok
[02:56] <erchache> i cant start server.....i test on resuce mode change
[02:57] <DShepherd> does anyone know how I can install Firefox 1.5beta2 with synaptic (apt-get)?
[02:57] <haro> but  Syaptic desn't work
[02:57] <erchache> mwe: arent breezy stable or what?
[02:57] <apokryphos> Breezy is now stable, yes.
[02:57] <haro> My Firefox even has not menu
[02:57] <liable> apt-spy
[02:57] <erchache> but my server crash on upgrade....
[02:57] <ktogias> DShepherd, I dont see Firefox 1.5beta2 anywhere in the repositories... So i think you can't
[02:57] <erchache> many dependeces was broken
[02:57] <erchache> i try to reboot
[02:57] <erchache> and cant.....fuck!
[02:58] <haro> can't see anything...
[02:58] <occy> erchache, you upgrading?
[02:58] <apokryphos> erchache: rebooting wouldn't help; and language, please :)
[02:58] <erchache> yeah
[02:58] <ktogias> DShepherd, but you can try the installer given from mozilla.org
[02:58] <occy> erchache, or installing from scratch?
[02:58] <GNAM> ausauas
[02:58] <erchache> i try to mount my hd but i cant
[02:58] <GNAM> upgrade of a so NEVER WORKS
[02:58] <erchache> because are using xfs
[02:58] <snadge> what happened to the dvd release? :p
[02:58] <allan1> i think that it might be a wiser choice for me to upgrade my laptop
[02:58] <GNAM> this law is for every so
[02:59] <GNAM> format and reinstall.
[02:59] <liable> so?
[02:59] <DShepherd> ktogias: Yeah I was thinking about that...I have had probs in the pass...oh well I give it a whirl
[02:59] <GNAM> os
[02:59] <GNAM> asusausausau
[02:59] <apokryphos> GNAM: so?
[02:59] <erchache> gnam: i can upgrade my laptops....and servers.....with hoary
[02:59] <GNAM> ;)
[02:59] <apokryphos> GNAM: absolute rubbish
[02:59] <erchache> but breeze.....crash
[02:59] <liable> works fin usually..
[02:59] <apokryphos> GNAM: a stable -> stable dist-upgrade is fully supported
[02:59] <liable> fine.
[02:59] <occy> I guess I can try the upgrade...
[02:59] <allan1> will all the wizards and user friendly stuff still be available in fluxbox/openbox ?
[02:59] <liable> no
[02:59] <occy> but... the wiki doesn't show it as being a fully supported option
[03:00] <damo21> how do i check a cdroms filesystem
[03:00] <apokryphos> occy: show what? A dist-upgrade?
[03:00] <apokryphos> occy: it sure is
[03:00] <damo21> for error
[03:00] <occy> apix, yeah... check topic
[03:00] <occy> errr
[03:00] <kenon> can anyone help me with mdadm?
[03:00] <occy> apokryphos, check topic
[03:00] <erchache> i make a dist-upgrade.....and fails for dependence broken
[03:00] <occy> http://tinyurl.com/74xlu
[03:00] <zenlinuxNH> Okay guys, I just posted the Extreme Ubuntu Install Challenge as a comment on the Slashdot article. Please help mod it up!
[03:00] <erchache> i restarrt system.....and hangs!
[03:00] <damo21> fsck /media/cdrom wont work
[03:00] <damo21> what can i use
[03:00] <wezzer> hey, is it possible that one of ubuntu mirrors _might_ not have updated packages>?
[03:00] <solemn-laptop> why is ubuntu so broken?
[03:01] <apokryphos> occy: yes, what's the problem?
[03:01] <wezzer> because that would explain all my problems
[03:01] <liable> hah
[03:01] <occy> Quote: "Note: This is a work in progress and may break your system!!!"
[03:01] <occy> heh
[03:01] <solemn-laptop> i mean you took a working distro called deb and broke it
[03:01] <apokryphos> occy: it needs to be updated then
[03:01] <solemn-laptop> why? :\
[03:01] <erchache> i get files from es mirror
[03:01] <occy> That doesn't sound like something that is "fully supported"
[03:01] <occy> apokryphos, :)
[03:01] <apokryphos> occy: my statement holds true though
[03:01] <erchache> fuck....
[03:01] <liable> solemn-laptop: dont use it then..
[03:01] <solemn-laptop> i dont
[03:01] <occy> apokryphos, k, I hope you are right.
[03:01] <apokryphos> erchache: please watch your language =)
[03:01] <selinium> solemn-laptop, Why are you here then?
[03:01] <apokryphos> occy: yes, I am; changing it now.
[03:01] <occy> apokryphos, thanks bud
[03:01] <solemn-laptop> dunno
[03:01] <damo21> he is watching his bad language
[03:02] <damo21> appear as text
[03:02] <solemn-laptop> because im bored i think
[03:02] <erchache> i lost 2 weeks of hard work!
[03:02] <occy> damo21, heh, scroll by on the screen?
[03:02] <damo21> :)
[03:02] <occy> erchache, did you backup before you upgraded?
[03:02] <apokryphos> damo21: sorry to hear that you're not familiar with the stock expression
[03:02] <selinium> solemn-laptop, I take it by your statement you are a debian user then?
[03:02] <liable> solemn-laptop: no need to troll.
[03:02] <occy> erchache, always, always, always backup before you do anything.  :(
[03:02] <solemn-laptop> possibly :)
[03:02] <erchache> nope....lammer im
[03:02] <occy> erchache, those USB drives are super cheap now.
[03:02] <erchache> yeah
[03:02] <occy> erchache, sorry :(
[03:02] <selinium> solemn-laptop, move to ubuntu-offtopic see you there
[03:03] <erchache> i must to did a dd of all my partitions!
[03:03] <erchache> i dont have initrd
[03:03] <occy> erchache, But use this as a hard learned lesson.
[03:03] <damo21> apokryphos: just reading things literally :) its fun
[03:03] <erchache> and stay on a rescue sesion
[03:03] <erchache> yeah
[03:03] <occy> erchache, look into unison
[03:03] <occy> erchache, it rocks.
[03:03] <occy> unison-gtk is pretty cool too...
[03:03] <occy> (though it's a crappily laid out application)
[03:03] <DShepherd> Where Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with
[03:03] <erchache> i dont use x on my servers
[03:03] <damo21> does anyone know how to check if my ubuntu cd is ok?
[03:04] <occy> erchache, you use Ubuntu on your servers?
[03:04] <hanno> Hi. Is one of you using Ubuntu within a LAN of Windows computers? I'm having questions how to work with SMB-shares in Nautilus.
[03:04] <erchache> yeah
[03:04] <DShepherd> damo21: no
[03:04] <damo21> i did md5sum on the iso
[03:04] <occy> erchache, crazy
[03:04] <occy> heh
[03:04] <erchache> better than debian
[03:04] <erchache> more fast
[03:04] <erchache> and reliable
[03:04] <liable> what?
[03:04] <DShepherd> damo21: Is the cd damaged?
[03:04] <occy> I've just stuck with Debian for servers.
[03:04] <damo21> i think so
[03:04] <DShepherd> damo21: Why do you think so?
[03:04] <btdown> Seveas you there?
[03:04] <thechitowncubs> hi
[03:04] <liable> faster and more reliable? you got to be joking..
[03:04] <occy> I didn't think Ubuntu was geared toward a server.
[03:05] <damo21> because it said i/o error when copying files
[03:05] <DShepherd> damo21: Do you have the iso elsewhere?
[03:05] <damo21> i have the iso fine on my HDD
[03:05] <Juxella> hello ppl..
[03:05] <Skid> i pref debian over ubuntu as a server
[03:05] <occy> heh
[03:05] <Skid> infact, i'd not run ubuntu as a server, until it's a little older :) (production server)
[03:05] <DShepherd> damo21: Burn it again on another cd and you 'll know for sure
[03:05] <Skid> but im probably paraniod heh
[03:05] <Juxella> i had a problem with xorg before, looks like changing the ATI drivers for VESA helped the problem> are ATI drivers broken_
[03:06] <damo21> dshephard: little problem i dont have any more
[03:06] <defendguin> hi im looking for an ubuntu boot floppy  i took the cdrom drive out of my laptop and missplaced it
[03:06] <erchache> but if i can access to partitons.....
[03:06] <damo21> dshephard: only this cdrw
[03:06] <DShepherd> damo21: ok...hmm...
[03:06] <erchache> and has all data
[03:06] <erchache> how i can recover kernel and all boot process files?
[03:06] <kenon> can anyone help me with mdadm (software raid)?
[03:06] <looga> Is 2726B/s for apt-get of dist upgrade slow?
[03:06] <Skid> plus i dont like how it handles kernels :)
[03:07] <DShepherd> damo21: Well.. There's only one way to fix that problem. Get another
[03:07] <twoknee> i have a folder full of ttf fonts that i want to add to the system wide font folder however i cannot mount /media/sda1 as a normal user (its ntfs i believe) and copy it into fonts:///
[03:07] <DShepherd> damo21: from a friend maybe
[03:07] <thechitowncubs> can't ubuntu see how many users there are roughly by the stats from apt-get?
[03:07] <DShepherd> damo21: buy maybe
[03:07] <damo21> DShephard: maybe i do full erase of cdrw try burning at 1x
[03:07] <damo21> :P
[03:07] <fredforfaen> is it really nessesary to run a firewall in linux if you dont have any services running that can be accsessed?
[03:07] <Juxella> another question > can i run the A64/SMP kernel on a Intel 830D procesor (dualcore, EM64T extensions?)
[03:07] <liable> erchache: are you sure you should be running a server?
[03:07] <DShepherd> damo21: try that....but it sounds like your cd is bad
[03:07] <looga> My terminal is still at "0% [Waiting for headers] " after 2 minutes. Is this normal???
[03:07] <erchache> a sun fire v65
[03:08] <damo21> yes
[03:08] <DShepherd> damo21: try cleaning it and burning again
[03:08] <erchache> liable: a sun fire v65
[03:08] <damo21> yup
[03:08] <thechitowncubs> fredforfaen,no
[03:08] <erchache> xeon....raid scsi
[03:08] <DShepherd> damo21: how many times have you tried already?
[03:08] <erchache> and 2 gigabits
[03:08] <erchache> on 2gb ram
[03:08] <erchache> ecc
[03:08] <damo21> only once
[03:08] <looga> okay, it's making progress again.
[03:08] <fredforfaen> thechitowncubs ok , and your sure about this :)
[03:08] <damo21> burnt at 4x
[03:08] <fredforfaen> ?
[03:08] <ivar> gah, this is a bad time to upgrade.. the repo is being hammered
[03:09] <DShepherd> damo21: try again ....it just might work....call a fren and borrow one from them..just in case
[03:09] <apokryphos> yup
[03:09] <DShepherd> damo21: good luck!
[03:09] <damo21> :)
[03:09] <twoknee> anyone know how to move fonts from a windows /dev/sda1 after mounting as root to a user run gnome in fonts:///
[03:09] <looga> ivar: then when is a good time to upgrade? 2 weeks from now?
[03:09] <DShepherd> Where Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with
[03:09] <erchache> im going to fight with my server config
[03:09] <erchache> bye
[03:09] <ivar> looga, i'd say so.. yeah
[03:09] <looga> ivar: are you going to wait that long?
[03:09] <ivar> looga, either that or get a cd via torrent
[03:10] <looga> ivar: why not just  upgrade in the background?
[03:10] <DShepherd> ivar: now is a good time to upgrade
[03:10] <ivar> looga, no, i've already started .. my system would be hosed if I stopped now :|
[03:10] <looga> ivar: i wish i could get a cd via torrent, but my pc doesn't burn cds.
[03:10] <DShepherd> ivar: there's no need to wait, breezy should be stable
[03:10] <looga> ivar, what do you mean by "hosed"?
[03:10] <ivar> DShepherd, i just meant the the repsoitory is very very slow
[03:10] <shutdownrunner> Does anyone know how to get HP Laserjet 1020 to work under Breezy?
[03:10] <ktogias> twoknee, doesn't just draging them at fonts:/// under nautilus work?
[03:10] <DShepherd> ivar:  ok
[03:10] <DShepherd> Where Can I find a list of the major software that ubuntu breezy ships with
[03:11] <looga> shutdownrunner: first, connect the printer to your computer.
[03:11] <apokryphos> looga: as in, many people are using the servers currently, so it's crippling them oO
[03:11] <ivar> looga, there are some major changes between breezy and warty... if half my packages are upgraded, the whole thing starts to stink
[03:11] <shutdownrunner> thanks looga. I didn't know it
[03:11] <looga> ivar, so no turning around now. for you and for me.
[03:11] <xukun> I just downloaded the breezy cd, how can I now uprade to breezy? Do I need to reinstall everything?
[03:11] <ivar> looga, let's just hope it doesn't get /,'ed
[03:11] <looga> shutdownrunner: that's pretty much how much quality in advice i can give, as a newbie
[03:12] <looga> ivar: if it does... what will happen.
[03:12] <looga> ?
[03:12] <liable> you get pwned
[03:12] <ivar> looga, the transfer speed will go down to nothing (or very close to it)
[03:12] <looga> i have 22 hours to go for upgrade. yippee
[03:13] <twoknee> ktogias no that is not working
[03:13] <looga> wish ubuntu had MORE bandwidth
[03:13] <apokryphos> looga: it's quite safe to stop the upgrade while it's still only downloading packs
[03:13] <twoknee> i can mount /dev/sda1 as /media/sda1 which contains my ttf.  but for some reason i can't get the fonts into the fonts:/// directory
[03:14] <ivar> looga, it's actually well supllied.. it doesn't make sense to make too many affordances for such anomalous traffic spikes (that's what bittorrent is for..)
[03:14] <aftertaf> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:14] <aftertaf>     <------- why is this error after every apt-get?
[03:14] <looga> apokryphos: i see no good reason to stop. Better slowly than never.
[03:14] <xukun> guys please advice. Do I need to reinstall everything, or can I just upgrade to breezy?
[03:14] <apokryphos> looga: you could stop if you wanted to retry later, but either way.. really.
[03:14] <looga> ivar: if i could use bittorrent without having to burn the stuff on a CD, I would. But I don't have a CD burner, so i have no choice.
[03:14] <DShepherd> xukun: I prefer to reinstall but its safe to upgrade
[03:15] <aftertaf> xukun:  with the cd?   you can use apt-setup to add it as a repository
[03:15] <twoknee> what folder on ubuntu are the standard ttf located ?  i can copy from command line just fine.
[03:15] <shutdownrunner> looga: just download ubuntu via torrent and mount cd iso as a loop
[03:15] <ivar> looga, you can actually mount a CD image that's on your harddrive
[03:15] <twoknee> from terminal
[03:15] <ivar> i wish i'd done that
[03:15] <irvin> is there any particular package i'd have to download to setup a private gpg keyserver?
[03:16] <Hendric> no DVD for breezy available yet??
[03:16] <vengeful> i think someone said a few days after official release
[03:17] <Belial-> Hendric: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/
[03:17] <looga> shutdownrunner: ivar. I CAN? Aaaagh!
[03:17] <yancheng> is the back-port extra in the mirrormax fail??
[03:17] <thechitowncubs> Why would there be a dvd anyways?
[03:17] <Belial-> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[03:17] <Belial-> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/release/ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[03:17] <looga> anyway, it's an "aaagh" only because of my impatience.
[03:17] <apokryphos> thechitowncubs: for live+install+other features that couldn't fit
[03:17] <ivar> looga, with linux, you can do almost anything.. :)
[03:18] <BockBilbo> hello
[03:18] <BockBilbo> i get error processing xserver-xorg (--remove):
[03:18] <BockBilbo>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[03:18] <BockBilbo>  reinstall it before attempting a removal. when dist upgrading to breezy
[03:18] <sexcopter8000m> what should i use to burn the iso to disc?
[03:18] <Hendric> d difference between DVD and CD is that it contains all architecture?? no special packagees???
[03:18] <BockBilbo> (sorry for the flood)
[03:18] <looga> ivar,but with my unLinuxed brain, you can't.
[03:18] <shutdownrunner> looga: you download an iso. an then sth like mount -t iso9660 -o loop,user /mnt/something /path/to/your/iso
[03:18] <zoot_> anyone know how to enable xdmcp?
[03:18] <apokryphos> sexcopter8000m: k3b is good
[03:18] <Hendric> if nothing special about the difference.. i better grab the CD iso...
[03:18] <xukun> can I move my home partion to other partion?
[03:18] <BockBilbo> how can i reinstall it?
[03:18] <sexcopter8000m> ty apokryphos, just couldn't remember that name :)
[03:18] <looga> shutdownrunner: okay. i think I'll just wait for the apt-get upgrade to do its slow work.
[03:19] <shutdownrunner> looga: use a mirror if you think that the official server is too busy
[03:20] <btdown> xdmcp System > Administration > Login Screen setup > Security
[03:20] <zoot_> how to start/configure XDMCP?
[03:20] <bugzElMagnifico> howdy folks, I've been trying for some time now(without success) to make Rhythmbox play mp3 files using a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.04. Any suggestions?
[03:20] <Cavallo>  where I can set other language keyboard layout at KDE login ?
[03:20] <BockBilbo> bugzElMagnifico, read the wiki
[03:20] <BockBilbo> !RestrictedFormats
[03:20] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[03:20] <DShepherd> xukun: Why do you want to do that?
[03:20] <bugzElMagnifico> BockBilbo, OK... tks
[03:21] <looga> shutdownrunner: too late.
[03:21] <btdown> zoot_ xdmcp System > Administration > Login Screen setup > Security
[03:21] <looga> shutdownrunner: i'll just wait for apt-get to finish.
[03:21] <xukun> DShepherd, I want to save my home directory, becouse I,m going to install breezy?
[03:22] <shutdownrunner> looga: not too late. cancel your download. change mirror and update package information. and resume downloadin packages. you'll get some errors when you cancel, but you shouldn't worry about it
[03:22] <DShepherd> xukun: where do yu want to put it?
[03:22] <zoot_> btdown: thx, but i'm running wdm and xfce, not gnome/gdm... hmmm - at least you've hinted - there must be a wdm config somewhere :)
[03:22] <RedGhost> gah
[03:22] <RedGhost> i just installed ubuntu via VMware
[03:22] <RedGhost> and all my sound stopped working in windows
[03:23] <looga> shutdownrunner: are you sure?
[03:23] <RedGhost> also no sound works in ubuntu
[03:23] <looga> shutdownrunner: where do i find list of mirrors?
[03:23] <btdown> ah ok sorry homie...I gave it a shot...
[03:23] <xukun> DShepherd, from /dev/hdb7 to /dev/hda5
[03:23] <mwright1night> Is breezy released
[03:23] <RedGhost> yes
[03:23] <btdown> yes
[03:23] <looga> mwright1night: you betcha
[03:24] <shutdownrunner> looga: yes. if you don't believe me see /var/cache/apt/archives. firt synaptic downloads the packages and then installs them
[03:24] <joni__> ubuntu+vmware+bluetooth freezes the whole system. is this a known problem?
[03:24] <DShepherd> man mv
[03:24] <Shinjan> hi folks
[03:24] <aftertaf> why is libgtk1.2-dev available, but not libgtk2.0-dev
[03:24] <DShepherd> xukun: you can just right click and copy the folder and paste it where you want it
[03:25] <shutdownrunner> looga: mirrors https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:25] <DShepherd> xukun: what is the filesystem type used on /dev/hda5?
[03:25] <saik0> Huzzah for Breezy!
[03:26] <xukun> DShepherd, fat32
[03:26] <Kira> I don't know where to ask, so I'll ask here. What's the big fuss about legacy usb support?
[03:26] <Kira> Is it downright buggy or what?
[03:26] <eXtreme22> hellp
[03:26] <eXtreme22> ppl
[03:26] <eXtreme22> i install ubuntu
[03:26] <eXtreme22> :)
[03:26] <eXtreme22> but my modem
[03:27] <saik0> ubotu: tell eXtreme22 about ask
[03:27] <eXtreme22> is winmodem
[03:27] <eXtreme22> smartlink
[03:27] <DShepherd> xukun: Cut and past should work
[03:27] <eXtreme22> i install driver
[03:27] <cafuego_> Ah, is there an official breezy cd label out anywhere, for disc printing?
[03:27] <eXtreme22> sl-modem-daemon
[03:27] <eXtreme22> and KPPP
[03:27] <eXtreme22> Query modem work
[03:27] <haro> ...
[03:27] <leigh_anne> hi
[03:27] <eXtreme22> but when i try connect on net
[03:27] <eXtreme22> ATDTnumber
[03:27] <eXtreme22> and fail
[03:27] <eXtreme22> ?
[03:28] <looga> Hey all: my terminal is currently in the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" process. It's running quite slow. Would it be safe to cancel the process and then switch mirrors to a mirror in the country I'm currently in?
[03:28] <cafuego_> looga: yep. just run a 'sudo apt-get update' in between to fetch new lists.
[03:28] <saik0> looga: as long as it's downloading and not installing thats not a problem at all
[03:28] <Swearingen> does ubuntu ship with a mp3 codec?
[03:28] <cafuego_> saik0: Even if it's installing it's not usually a problem (libc6 excepted ;-)
[03:28] <saik0> obotu: tell Swearingen about mp3
[03:28] <rizla> hi folks
[03:29] <looga> saiko, how do i know if' it's in downloading stage or installing stage?
[03:29] <apoZ`> sudo apt-get update to upgrade ???
[03:29] <cafuego_> looga: just ctrl-c it, it will be fine.
[03:29] <rizla> i don't find w32codecs... what repo do i have to add?
[03:29] <looga> cafuego: i'm scared.
[03:29] <cafuego_> looga: don't be.
[03:29] <eXtreme22> hellp
[03:29] <saik0> looga, what cafuego_ said, _should_ be fine
[03:29] <Swearingen> heh
[03:29] <looga> cafuego: i don't want to pay the price just because of my impatience
[03:30] <patrik> anyone who cantell me how to copy a directory?
[03:30] <mwright1night> Is "Teacherspet" included wth edubuntu?
[03:30] <apoZ`> 'sudo apt-get update' to upgrade ???
[03:30] <DShepherd> man cp
[03:30] <mwright1night> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/TeachersPet
[03:30] <Swearingen> I love this ubuntu stuff but what about mp3?
[03:30] <haro> sudo apt-get update
[03:30] <cafuego_> looga: The worst that can happen is that you will need to run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'  when you want tor esume. it will tell you if this is the case.
[03:30] <DShepherd> patrik: man cp
[03:30] <haro> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:30] <haro> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:30] <looga> cafuego: saik0 and if i change mirrors, what will happen to all the packages that have already been downloaded? Do they have to be downloaded again?
[03:30] <eXtreme22> i iinstall ubuntu,KDE, i have winmodem smartlink, i install driver sl-modem-daemon ... query modem on KPPP is work but ATDTnumber fail no dialtone ???
[03:31] <lllmanulll> Swearingen, You need to install additionnal packages
[03:31] <DShepherd> patrik: You can use GUI and right click copy and paste
[03:31] <saik0> extreme22: try #kubuntu
[03:31] <shutdownrunner> looga: no they are on your drive. they won't be deleted
[03:31] <lllmanulll> Swearingen, Ubuntu doesn't come with out of the box mp3 support for legal reasons
[03:31] <cafuego_> looga: No, they will remain on disk and will be used.
[03:31] <saik0> looga: nope hooray apt
[03:31] <izm99> hi all, is there any way to get *the most recent* log info from X?  My pc's crashing as soon as I start x, but there is no data being put into /usr/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:31] <aftertaf> looga:  nope, theyre cached... dont worry about ctl D... i do it all the time :)
[03:31] <Swearingen> lllmanulll: understood, package names?
[03:31] <looga> aftertaf: what's ctrl D?
[03:31] <Ghoat> upgrade servers must be busy, downloading at 22 kB/s, going flawlessly though....
[03:32] <onkarshinde> Is translation using launchpad a continuous process? Can I still translate some packages?
[03:32] <patrik> DShpepherd: no i must be root to write to dest. so im using sudo.. but i cant find out how to copy a whole dir using cp
[03:32] <looga> cafuego: saik0: do you recommend using the server list in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive?
[03:32] <lllmanulll> Swearingen, Let me see
[03:32] <lllmanulll> Swearingen, gstreamer0.8-plugins, gstreamer0.8-lame, lame
[03:32] <apoZ`> ??
[03:32] <apoZ`> could not upgrade
[03:33] <aftertaf> looga:  i meant ctl C
[03:33] <lllmanulll> Swearingen, should be enough, post again if it's not
[03:33] <Swearingen> danke
[03:33] <sexcopter8000m> ok, burning the disc failed half way through :( should i check md5 sum thingies? if so, how?
[03:33] <wrabbit> !!!!!!!!!!
[03:33] <ubotu> No idea, wrabbit
[03:34] <wrabbit> xfce is soooo much quicker than Gnome
[03:34] <looga> how do i find the official mirror for Japan?
[03:34] <wrabbit> Loving it
[03:34] <lllmanulll> sexcopter8000m, Are you running linux right now ?
[03:34] <sexcopter8000m> yes, hoary
[03:34] <Dekkard> can you get ubuntu to use reiser4 ?
[03:34] <lllmanulll> sexcopter8000m, Run the md5sum command on the ISO you downloaded
[03:34] <wrabbit> Anybody else running xfce?
[03:34] <looga> aftertaf: ?
[03:34] <lllmanulll> sexcopter8000m, Then compare it to the one given on the server
[03:34] <Dekkard> wrabbit,  i was on hoary..
[03:34] <saik0> looga: Not sure about the unofficial servers. might not be current after release...heh the wiki says warty
[03:34] <shutdownrunner> looga: try some Japanese university. they usually have fast connections and mirrors of linux distributions
[03:34] <lllmanulll> sexcopter8000m, Or on the CD, maybe
[03:35] <onkarshinde> Is translation using launchpad a continuous process? Can I still translate some packages?
[03:35] <sexcopter8000m> lllmanulll: ok it's just working away
[03:35] <Amaranth> onkarshinde: if you want them to be translated better for dapper, sure
[03:35] <looga> shutdownrunner: so you think i shoudln't use one of the japan mirrors at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive?
[03:36] <sexcopter8000m> lllmanulll: 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61
[03:36] <looga> saik0: you're right!
[03:36] <sexcopter8000m> (for the iso image on hdd)
[03:36] <looga> saik0: it does say warty.
[03:36] <wrabbit> Dekkard, it can pretty much do anything that Gnome can do correct?  It's so smooth on my system.  Gnome was hell on my 700mhz
[03:36] <looga> saik0: so i guess i have no choice but to wait for this slow process.
[03:36] <wrabbit> I might stick with this
[03:36] <looga> saik0: besides, there really is no rush for me.
[03:36] <wrabbit> very nice indeed.