[00:25] <joshlegs> hello. im currently on ubuntu 16.04. i really want to upgrade to 18.04, but i guess the uphgrade path from 16.04 has not been released yet (late july).
[00:25] <joshlegs> if i do an upgrade via do-release-upgrade -d is there a lot of danger to that  ?
[00:25] <yaldak> joshlegs: any operation of that degree is risky, take a backup
[00:25] <yaldak> it's usually pretty good
[00:26] <yaldak> but take your backups
[00:26] <joshlegs> ok ill give it a go. i was just wondering why it takes longer to upgrade from 16.04 than from 17.10 -- im assuming longer testing or something
[00:26] <joshlegs> might as well be a guinea pig and give it a go, i reckon. thanks yaldak
[00:27] <yaldak> np good luck dude
[00:27] <joshlegs> o7
[00:27] <yaldak> just take backups
[00:31] <Dannyd> I am trying to boot into my new Ubuntu install. I keep getting this at boot.
[00:33] <Dannyd> http://ibb.co/g8Fuco
[00:34] <Dannyd> When I added the UEFI file it tells me it already exists
[00:34] <Dannyd> I previously had Ubuntu install this is a clean install and I can’t figure out how to fix it
[00:35] <Dannyd> I’ve already tried boot repair with no success
[00:36] <Dannyd> Any ideas?
[00:46] <DannyE> I prevously installed Ubuntu but I had to install the UEFI. I did a clean install of Ubuntu 18.04 and now I can't boot I get this window. https://ibb.co/g8Fuco
[00:46] <DannyE> I tried to readd the UEFI file and it says it already exists.
[00:47] <DannyE> I tried repair boot and it still does the same thing
[00:48] <DannyE> When I look at the boot menu its says Boot Menu 1. yes
[00:48] <Suntop_K> j #ubuntu-Offtopic
[00:48] <Suntop_K> oops
[00:51] <lirodon> I added lxde to my Xubuntu installation but its not appearing on the session menu
[00:53] <EriC^^> DannyE: do you have a live usb?
[00:53] <DannyE> EriC^^: That's what im using right now
[00:53] <EriC^^> DannyE: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[00:56] <DannyE> EricC^^ : http://termbin.com/jp1v
[00:59] <EriC^^> DannyE: is uefi selected as the booting mode? with csm legacy disabled?
[01:00] <DannyE> Yes I have tried secure boot with UEFI, Just UEFI, and legacy I get the same window
[01:00] <EriC^^> DannyE: run 'sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999'
[01:01] <Necromancyr> Have what I hope is an easy question - just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04 and all of a sudden my mounting of SMB shares isn't working anymore - getting errors they can't resolve.  Wondering if this is a know thing with something easy I can do to fix...not certain what happened.
[01:02] <DannyE> EriC^^ : http://termbin.com/p96y
[01:02] <guiverc> Necromancyr, try adding a ,vers=1.0 to your -o mount
[01:03] <EriC^^> DannyE: try 'sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,2001,0001,2002,2003'
[01:03] <EriC^^> DannyE: also sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt && ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:06] <Necromancyr> Guiverc: thanks.  Just tried and still getting an error -it's not resolving  correctly.  Assuming I put the command in right and a mount -a should function.  ("//CORE/Music /media/COREMusic cifs iocharset=utf8,credentials=/home/necro/.smbcredentials,uid=1000,vers=1.0 0 0")
[01:08] <Necromancyr> Hrm.  If I try to ping the hostname, I get "temporary failure in name resolution".  That's...odd.
[01:08] <guiverc> Necromancyr, next I'd try adding sec=ntlm, to the -o too
[01:08] <DannyE> EriC^^ from efibootmgr  -0 it says invalid boot order 2002 does not exist
[01:08] <EriC^^> DannyE: try without 2002
[01:08] <guiverc> Necromancyr, the name resolution is far more important; forget mounting till you work out network issues..
[01:09] <Necromancyr> Yeah - I'm thinking that's it.  Though I have NO idea why that is occuring.
[01:09] <DannyE> EriC^^ : http://termbin.com/jlt9
[01:12] <EriC^^> DannyE: try sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot && sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[01:12] <EriC^^> then try rebooting
[01:15] <DannyE> mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot && sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mntefi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
[01:15] <EriC^^> there's a typo ^
[01:16] <EriC^^> /mnt/efi/micro...
[01:16] <KingSec666> HI
[01:16] <DannyE> EriC^^ i get no such directory or file
[01:18] <EriC^^> did you fix the typo?
[01:19] <DannyE> what's the typo?
[01:19] <EriC^^> /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/...
[01:19] <EriC^^> you missed a slash
[01:21] <DannyE> EriC^^ alright I completed it ill reboot and let you know
[01:26] <DannyE> EriC^^: It didn't work
[01:26] <DannyE> Still getting the same screen
[01:27] <carlos___> hi all just wondering how i can update my display driver(graphics-card) driver to latest version 16.04 terminal
[01:27] <carlos___> i want the ubuntu one not the Nvidia proprietory
[01:28] <tomreyn> !nouveau
[01:29] <fliedrice> Has anyone succeeded in installing Ubuntu to a bootable USB disk, with encryption? The standard installer only lets you check "Encrypt my data" if you select the "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" option, which doesn't let you point it at a USB key. It forcefully applies to the primary hard disk.
[01:31] <tomreyn> carlos___: i guess this could still work on 17.04: https://askubuntu.com/questions/206283/how-can-i-uninstall-a-nvidia-driver-completely
[01:31] <oerheks> fliedrice, try 'something else' then you get the gparted screen, and there you should be able to change destination, then go back and proceed
[01:34]  * Suntop_K shakes his head
[01:36] <KingSec666> I whant to know if tested already this Accelerated Open Source driver for nVidia cards from https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[01:37] <oerheks> nouveau is standard now
[01:39] <KingSec666> working for gaming Laptop I want to Change may OS to Ubuntu but my Problem is only Drivers for nVidia
[01:40] <tomreyn> carlos___: once the nvidia drivers are gone, make sure you also install 'nouveau-firmware' and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'. you may also consider to use this, but DO READ THE IMPORTANT HINTS above https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial
[01:40] <fliedrice> oerheks: hmm, you sure or guessing? If it wipes my Windows, I'd be really screwed, I'm traveling
[01:40] <KingSec666> OK ty tomreyn I will try soon...
[01:40] <hays> anyone ever used keepalived?  curious how fast failover is
[01:46] <tomreyn> KingSec666: if this is a new installation in your case you'll better start with 18.04
[01:49] <tomreyn> KingSec666: whether or not you'll enjoy this on your 'gaming laptop' (to me that's still a contradiction in terms), you'll have to decide for yourself. performance will likely be worse than what you're used to.
[01:51] <DannyE_> Anyone here any good with resolving EFI and boot issues?
[01:59] <han_> I installed 18.04 on my wife's hp with dual boot and I don't seem to have an Activities access
[02:02] <han_> I don't see the dash on the side bar for applicaions.
[02:02] <wsdjeg> 2
[02:02] <wsdjeg> ???
[02:05] <han_> How do I list applications on 18.04
[02:07] <tomreyn> han_: available or installed? snaps or debs? on gui or cli?
[02:09] <han_> What ?  I just installed the 18.04  Where's the dash or applications button
[02:13] <GinTT> how to reinstall packages which are installed by groupinstall ,i mean ,not remove . how reinstall group packages
[02:47] <jmadero> is this a valid command: rsync /mnt/driveA/*zip /mnt/driveB/ --avz --progress?
[03:24] <thetoolman> any xorg gurus here? i have two nvidia gt710s with three monitors each but the nvidia settings sets the two sets of three monitors as a seperate screen and i cannot drag windows between the two screens
[03:24] <thetoolman> using xfce4
[03:24] <thetoolman> any ideas?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> thetoolman: wich ubuntu release are you on mate?
[03:49] <carlos___> hey yall i installed 16.04 (encrypted home and lvm selected and want to install mate 18.04 dual boot-upon install of 18.04 it says cant detect any other os
[03:49] <carlos___> to b able to install both must i not encrypt
[03:49] <carlos___> ?
[03:53] <guiverc_t> carlos___, who disk encryption? or just /home?
[03:54] <carlos___> both
[03:54] <preyalone> is it possible to install libicu-dev (targeting libicu55) in bionic beaver, in order to run the swift compiler?
[03:55] <guiverc_t> carlos___, i've only used /home encryption & dual-boot works, but its possible if you have whole disk encryption that the OS when creating GRUB doesn't see the other (note: guess only!)  ie. you'll have to modify grub yourself to load other possibly...
[03:56] <LevierMRQ> carlos___: personaly i did fix that this way:  install 14.04 or 16.04 where you plan to install 18.04.  Grub will be fixed.  Then install 18.04 over the temporary 14.04.  So then 18.04 will pass throu grub and terminate normallty
[03:56] <carlos___> think ill fresh install with only 16.04 home encrypted like you-provided that works-dont know how to successfully change dist size and modify grub
[03:57] <carlos___> *disk
[03:57] <carlos___> how would you modigy grub to pickup other os from terminal/otherwise
[03:58] <LevierMRQ> with 14 or 16, grubs get fixed according to new partition.
[03:58] <carlos___> when during install
[03:58] <carlos___> of second os
[04:00] <kemisten> is there a video player that has a webui for ubuntu server??
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> kemisten: check the #ubuntu-server channel
[04:28] <Sonoftom> The best so far is a swap file instead of a swap partition
[04:29] <taralejko> 1/1
[04:29] <taralejko> 8 gb ram 8 swap
[04:30] <kemisten> is there a video player that has a webui for ubuntu server??
[04:30] <Sonoftom> Taralejko so
[04:30] <taralejko> but my is 10
[04:30] <Sonoftom> You can disable swap at ur own risk
[04:31] <taralejko> mt problem :)
[04:31] <taralejko> big mistake
[04:31] <taralejko> no disable swap
[04:31] <taralejko> 3 part in my ubuntu
[04:35] <smeshki> big fail
[04:35] <Sonoftom> 18.04 is smooth
[04:35] <smeshki> is good
[04:36] <smeshki> el {}{}
[04:36] <smeshki> testing some things
[04:38] <matjam> instead of swap, zram!
[04:49] <hays> if i wanted to run ubuntu on something small, perhaps for testing some software, is there a version that installs in a very small amount of space?
[04:50] <hays> i think ubuntu core might be too aggressively small
[04:53] <guiverc_t> hays, possibly the network installer?
[04:59] <gartral> hey all, I'm at wits end here... I need to use a USB disk from a windows vm, host is ubuntu 18.04, I can't figure out how ro make vbox mount the bloody thing.. can anyone help?
[05:01] <hays> guiverc_t: weird. that ISO doesnt boot in vmware. can't find network
[05:08] <hays> got it going... we'll see how big it is
[05:13] <OpenSorce> I am installing Ubuntu on an older laptop. The bios has issues with drives larger than 100GB so I'm setting up separate partitions. How big should me /boot partition be?
[05:16] <taralejko> 100 mb
[05:16] <hays> OpenSorce: I just did a minimal install. 70M /boot
[05:16] <taralejko> 1000
[05:16] <hays> I might triple that
[05:16] <hays> (at least)
[05:16] <guiverc_t> OpenSorce, this may help, but it depends on what you want to use it for. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[05:17] <taralejko> 1000 mb
[05:17] <taralejko> new kernels
[05:17] <gartral> OpenSorce: at least 10gb
[05:17] <taralejko> 500 600 is good
[05:17] <hays> hey my advice was good. 100M*3 is 300M and the page recommends 250M minimum
[05:17] <taralejko> 1 gb my
[05:17] <guiverc_t> OpenSorce, the size in the link I provided says 250mb-1gb; just clean it regularly (else you'll may get issues upgrade issues with older kernels..)
[05:18] <taralejko> i use 3 kernels and dual boot
[05:18] <taralejko> 500 600 mb is good
[05:18] <hays> looks like barebones ubuntu comes in at 2.5G
[05:20] <OpenSorce> I'm gonna give it a gig to be safe...
[05:21] <OpenSorce> Thanks for the input guys!
[05:22] <gartral> hey all, after adding myself to the vboxusers group, how di i ensure the change took and will work *WITHOUT* *LOGGING* *OUT* *OR* *REBOOTING*. this is critical, I can not afford to end this session as it's half-way through moving 12tb of data and I can't be set back a week
[05:24] <OpenSorce> I started this install a few hours ago. I bet if I had asked in here first I would have found out why I shouldn't use UNetbootin...
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> OpenSorce: lubuntu minimal install perhaps?
[05:25] <OpenSorce> lotuspsychje, yeah that's what I'm putting on it. It's an HP TC4400
[05:26] <gartral> wow a TC4400... haven't seen one of those in... years
[05:26] <gartral> they're slow, but reliable if you keep em cool
[05:27] <OpenSorce> This thing is a beast. Metal casing. Fingerprint scanner. It was slow in Windows. Was blazing the last time I put Linux on it.
[05:27] <gartral> OpenSorce: how much ram?
[05:28] <OpenSorce> gartral, 2.5 GB
[05:28] <OpenSorce> Expandable to 4
[05:28] <gartral> ooof
[05:28] <OpenSorce> I think it will take more than they say though
[05:28] <gartral> get it to 4gb, ASAP. 2.5, even with lubuntu, isn't going to be very useful
[05:29] <OpenSorce> My wife used it as a notepad, media box, book reader, facebook... loved it so much when someone gave her a tablet with Window 10 the first thing she wanted was Linux installed on it. :-P
[05:30] <OpenSorce> Yeah, I already have some RAM ordered for it.
[05:30] <gartral> OpenSorce: know much about vbox?
[05:31] <OpenSorce> gartral, not enough to answer your question my friend :-(
[05:31] <OpenSorce> gartral, I wish I did
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> gartral: theres a #vbox channel if you like
[06:05] <arisroyo> identify arisroyo adeline02
[06:14] <oerheks> arisroyo, time to change password
[06:15] <gartral> well crap
[06:15] <arisroyo> oh yeah no problem on that this account is nothing :)
[06:15] <gartral> a power outage knocked me out, now my desktop is sitting at initramfs and complaining my lvm can't be mounted... help x.x
[06:16] <gartral> ryzokuken: were you helping me the other day?
[06:16] <gartral> rypervenche: or was it you?
[06:17] <ryzokuken> gartral maybe.
[06:17] <ryzokuken> Don't remember.
[06:18] <gartral> ryzokuken: with the lvm and mounting another drive on a different desktop with both LVMs claiming the same name?
[06:20] <Maltea> Hey, i have trouble with ubuntu 18.04 lts with dns being ignored from my dhcp and also on static setup and on resolv.conf can anyone help? Im kinda at loss how to solve this issue as i can ping just fine. I have also simplifed my network setup to be as generic as possible. I have also tried alternate dns servers and i can ping them.
[06:22] <lotuspsychje> !netplan | Maltea can this help?
[06:23] <Maltea> Lotuspsychje sadly not as Ubuntu bluntly ignores the dns server i put in netplan and or networkmanager :(
[06:27] <gartral> hopefully this is as simple as renaming chrooting into the known-good system and renameing the volume group >.>
[06:27] <memphisto> gartral: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/333914/two-physical-disks-with-same-volume-group-names-preventing-access?utm_medium=organic&utm_source=google_rich_qa&utm_campaign=google_rich_qa
[06:27] <gartral> memphisto: this is *FAAAAR* after the fCT
[06:28] <gartral> fact*
[06:28] <memphisto> don't get it
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> Maltea: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-configure-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[06:28] <gartral> i need to recover the original lvm vg, it has a name other than "ubuntu-vg-root"
[06:28] <memphisto> you have 2 VGs with the same name. either rename one or try importing it with new name and what you need to do wiht it
[06:29] <gartral> memphisto: I had to mount a drive that was my drive that I pulled out of another desktop, now that drive is no longer in this machine and I forgot to rename the original vg back
[06:30] <gartral> this is 101% my faut
[06:30] <gartral> fault* damnit i keep typoing.. i'm so stressed over this x,x
[06:30] <memphisto> but you still have running system with 2 vgs with the same name. so you can lsblk to see which disk belongs to old vg and just vgimport with new name that /dev/sdx
[06:31] <gartral> memphisto: negative. I have a non-running system with ONE VG
[06:31] <gartral> I'm stuck at initramfs and initramfs doesn't have vgimport
[06:32] <memphisto> ok. i missed the beggining
[06:32] <gartral> it has vgchange, no other volgroup tools
[06:33] <memphisto> it should have lvm, and you get into lvm interactive shell
[06:33] <memphisto> what was the error
[06:34] <gartral> memphisto: it *doesn't* the ubuntu team dropped the ball hard
[06:34] <memphisto> ok.so boot from live dvd and fix/rename/or what else
[06:35] <Maltea> Lotuspsychje: not difference in static vs dhcp setup. I can see network manager showing me dns as i want it to for <IP_ADDRESS> but it is like ubuntu throws over its shoulder when i do dns requests
[06:36] <oerheks> Maltea, reset your router, often helps with these courious issues
[06:37] <gartral> memphisto: hold on, i'm having trouble booting a usb disk
[06:39] <gartral> memphisto: ok, so I'm getting "ALERT!: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--studio--vg-root does not exst" the vg is currently named ubuntu-studio-vg-good.
[06:40] <Maltea> Okay what the hell? I tried the change in etc/network/knterface and now it responds and can lookup dns?!
[06:40] <gartral> this *shouldn't* be hard to fix, but I also can't boot this bloody usb disk
[06:40] <oerheks> Maltea, wrong place to edit, that file says so ...
[06:41] <memphisto> gartral: how did this happen? yes, you shuould rename it
[06:41] <oerheks> edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and put the dns there
[06:42] <oerheks> bu t i think you just need to wipe all your config attempts, start with a new connection, and reset your router
[06:43] <Maltea> oerheks: that is what i tried at first with resolv.conf . My router is not at fault here (pfSense 2.3.2) all other clients can lookup dns fine.
[06:43] <oerheks> not resolf.conf either, that gets reset after boot
[06:45] <Maltea> I know but it looks like a bug with either netplan or dnsmasq since ubuntu ignored all dns settings until i changed /etc/network/interfaces
[06:46] <gartral> memphisto: long story short, I needed too access some data on an *LUKS* *encrypted* disk, to do so I had to rename both VGs because just renaming the one back wouldn't work, then I throught I got the name right after removing the encrypted on and didn't, power outage happened and now I'm stuck..
[06:48] <memphisto> have you been able to boot the usb
[06:49] <gartral> memphisto: No,
[06:49] <gartral> i'm about to reburn it
[06:50] <wyseguy> hey all
[06:54] <gartral> ARRRGH I HATE MMACS
[06:55] <gartral> memphisto: I'm re-burning the drive, hoping etcher gets it right this time
[06:55] <Maltea> lotuspsychje: you solved my issues, thanks problem was solved either by using /etc/network/interfaces or sudo ip a flush enp4s0 along with sudo systemctl restart networking.service
[07:05] <nightmare_> halo
[07:22] <nightmare_> exit
[07:22] <nightmare_> :D
[07:31] <gartral> how much of a pain is it to do an in-place reinstall of ubuntu 18.04?
[07:33] <nicholas_> hello?
[07:34] <nicholas_> why do I just have this randomly installed on my computer?
[07:47] <guiverc_t> gartral, i can't speak from experience (with 18.04), but usually i find re-installs of Ubuntu rather easy.  I already have a separate /home, use 'something else' & just do it... just make sure you don't reformat anything you don't want to, and backup first!
[08:36] <jair> Hello all, it is 18.04 and I am still experiencing the 1min 30 sec hang when restarting or shutting down the system, I am using a laptop DELL latitude e5540
[08:37] <jair> ubuntu 18.04 64bit nothing different other than just [minimal] installation selected
[08:39] <Apachez> the hang is when you are trying to shutdown and not during bootup right?
[08:39] <jair> Apachez: correct
[08:39] <Apachez> because if its during bootup I have distros hang that long when they are configured for dhcp but there is no dhcp server available
[08:39] <jair> Apachez: when booting the systems works fine fast and smooth
[08:40] <Apachez> can you get to the tty so you can see whats printed when you try to shutdown?
[08:40] <jair> Apachez: no no this is using static ip
[08:40] <jair> Yes I can see that
[08:40] <jair> Apachez: let me share it
[08:40] <Apachez> and there is nothing there which gives you a hint of what its going on?
[08:41] <jair> well
[08:42] <Apachez> do you have any external mounts or such?
[08:42] <Apachez> do you get similar if you liveboot 18.04 on this box?
[08:42] <system16> if i install ubuntu on a stick would it still need to turn off fast boot ?
[08:42] <oerheks> systemd-analyze blame # systemd-analyze critical-chain #
[08:42] <oerheks> system16, yes
[08:43] <system16> but i can turn on fast boot after i unplugged the stick right?
[08:43] <jair> here is what I get when doing the reboot, or init 6, or shutdown -r now > https://ibb.co/kWXxho
[08:44] <jair> Apachez: nothing is connected to it, no USB drive or USB stick
[08:44] <jair> Apachez: about using the liveboot I will have to check
[08:44] <oerheks> system16, err.. fastboot prevents booting from usb, so do as you like
[08:45] <jair> Apachez: I have no intentions on using it live though :(
[08:45] <jair> Apachez: but I understand you want to test
[08:45] <oerheks> !uefi | read the manual system16
[08:45] <system16> this pc doesnt use uefi
[08:45] <system16> it uses bios
[08:46] <jair> system16: then use the "legacy" settings in your BIOS and make sure to boot from the removable storage
[08:46] <jair> system16: or make sure you created the correct bootable usb using one of the recommended tools online
[08:47] <system16> can i save my work on the usb stick?
[08:47] <system16> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#0
[08:47] <jair> system16: am I wrong or you are just trying to install/boot from a usb stick?
[08:47] <jair> system16: You can save information in the stick after it is created sure
[08:47] <system16> im trying to install ubuntu on a memory stick so i could run it on any pc that i want
[08:48] <Apachez> jair: nothing obvious but some hints https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/273876/a-stop-job-is-running-for-session-c2-of-user
[08:48] <Apachez> do you have remote-login enabled?
[08:48] <jair> if you are running the OS live you can save stuff in the cloud though
[08:48] <oerheks> that guide shows howto make an ubuntu install usb, it has no persistence part
[08:48] <ducasse> !persistent | system16 if you want to save
[08:48] <jair> Apachez: I have teamviewr and nxserver both running on this system
[08:48] <Apachez> https://gist.github.com/dianjuar/98d02af4050dc2df8ae6f18695d44ca3
[08:48] <oerheks> so the answer is no, you cannot save on it
[08:48] <jair> Apachez: I saw that and similar posts
[08:48] <Apachez> jair: as a troubleshoot try to kill them manually before reboot
[08:49] <Apachez> and if the reboot now goes in a second then you have nailed who the prime suspects are
[08:49] <jair> hmm OK
[08:49] <jair> but that is not that of a problem sure I can try that
[08:49] <Apachez> another related http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=131589
[08:50] <Apachez> yeah but since you didnt resolve this yet :P
[08:50] <jair> the problem I still have, is that the system does not reboot back, stays here > https://ibb.co/ggzcho
[08:50] <Apachez> so killing teamviewer and nxserver manually and then try to reboot will give you a quick answer if any of these two are related to this delay or not
[08:50] <jair> Apachez: thank you for the links
[08:50] <jair> Apachez: sure I will check that
[08:50] <system16> k thanks 4 ur help
[08:51] <Apachez> jair: also ssd or hdd?
[08:51] <Apachez> I mean even if you have a riddicilous large cache it shouldnt take 1.5min to flush it down
[08:51] <jair> Apachez: ssd
[08:52] <jair> Apachez: and I did the test I went to lunch and came back and the machine still was stock there
[08:53] <Apachez> huh?
[08:53] <Apachez> you killed teamviewer and nxserver, hit reboot, went for lunch, came back within 1.5min and the text was still there? :P
[08:54] <jair> Apachez: yep, it basically never restarts stay there stock
[08:54] <Apachez> your lunch is faster than my pee visits :p
[08:54] <jair> Apachez: no no, I am telling you what I did
[08:54] <jair> Apachez: yesterday
[08:54] <Apachez> yeah but Im talking about killing teamviewer and nxserver today
[08:54] <jair> Apachez: I am currently at home and the pc is in my office :(
[08:54] <Apachez> while we wait in this chat and together with you try to resolve your issue
[08:55] <Apachez> aaaah
[08:55] <oerheks> come back on monday :-D
[08:55] <jair> Apachez: I can ping the machine but I cannot ssh because I already sent the shutdown -r now
[08:55] <jair> Apachez: but it never came back
[08:56] <jair> oerheks: I am actually thinking on heading there in a bit and try to find the solution
[08:56] <Apachez> bring this chat with you :)
[08:56] <jair> screen I have access to this chat from anywhere np
[08:57] <jair> Apachez: but thanks for the tips good things test I wonder if this is eomthing only affecting laptops or just the fact that I am using teamviewer and nxserver
[08:57] <jair> but this was not happening in 16.04 though
[08:57] <jair> same machine
[08:57] <jair> :(
[08:58] <jair> instead of getting better ubuntu 18.04....:(
[08:58] <jair> not starting too good
[09:00] <Apachez> also dont forget to return if you find solution
[09:01] <Apachez> most of those forum posts are broken in this
[09:01] <Apachez> often the suggestions have nothing to do with the problem
[09:01] <Apachez> and once resolved they never return so next one ending up in their thread searching for the same problem can get helped
[09:02] <jair> Apachez: absolutely
[09:02] <jair> Apachez: that is the goal and it help me as well in the future when I run into the problem again
[09:02] <jair> ;-)
[09:03] <ducasse> jair: any nfs or cifs mounts?
[09:05] <jair> ducasse: nope
[09:05] <jair> ducasse: Apachez asked the same
[09:05] <BenderRodriguez> maybe check syslog
[09:05] <BenderRodriguez> it's stuck trying to bring down a service?
[09:06] <ducasse> jair: ah, i only saw you say "no usb drives", must have missed it
[09:08] <jair> ducasse: no problem I am not sure but definutely there is an issue with 18.04 and the laptop, dell latitude E5540 now that I recall, even before installing the teamviewer and nxservice the machine was taking time to reboot and also it just hand and never restart
[09:09] <jair> ducasse: > https://ibb.co/ggzcho
[09:17] <adroit_machine> Ubuntu failing on startup. Need help.  https://ibb.co/jaP2ho
[09:24] <adroit_machine> Ubuntu failing on startup. Need help.  https://ibb.co/jaP2ho
[09:34] <motte> how to set display to turn off automatically after a period of inactivty on a 18.04 ubuntu server without X?
[09:38] <tomreyn> motte: try "man setterm". or "consoleblank=seconds
[09:38] <tomreyn> motte: try "man setterm". or "consoleblank=seconds" as a kernel parameter
[09:40] <tomreyn> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt -> consoleblank
[09:50] <williamconna> halo
[09:51] <guiverc_t> Hi williamconna, if you have a Ubuntu Support question , please just ask it (try & use a single line only please, and be patient giving time for replies)
[09:52] <williamconna> ^_^
[10:07] <BenjaminA> my sister really hates me And i want her to hate me more soo please send my regards https://www.facebook.com/felicia.andersson.714 // benBenjamin
[10:11] <tomreyn> !ot | BenjaminA
[10:12] <jubuntu> test
[10:21] <Idriz> Hi there! I use an ideapad 100-15IBD, and my realtek rtl8723be drivers don't seem to work with ubuntu.
[10:21] <Idriz> Any ideas as to why that might be?
[10:22] <Idriz> If I use the rfkill -list command, it shows that my network is "unclaimed".
[10:22] <Idriz> No, nvm.
[10:22] <Idriz> That's not the command, I forgot what it was haha
[10:22] <Idriz> But overall I don't remember where it showed something like *network UNCLAIMED
[10:23] <Idriz> Also I don't have the ifconfig wlan0 option.
[10:23] <Idriz> It just says device doesn't exist.
[10:23] <dara> how come i'm not allowed post on #html ?
[10:23] <Idriz> But it does recognize the fact that the network controller IS in the hardware.
[10:24] <ppf> dara: you're not authenticated
[10:25] <dara> ppf: i forget my password
[10:25] <Idriz> Very helpful.
[10:26] <ppf> Idriz: 'your' driver?
[10:26] <ppf> what about the builtin one?
[10:27] <Idriz> There's none.
[10:27] <Idriz> Ubuntu doesn't install the builtin realtek drivers.
[10:27] <Idriz> I tried everything, disabling fast boot, disabling secure boot or whatever, and all of them ended up to no avail.
[10:27] <ppf> they're in the kernel
[10:27] <Artur> What package does contain all required package to build, compile linking ,etc programs in C and C++ ?
[10:27] <Idriz> well, where do I check if they are or they're not?
[10:27] <ppf> Artur: build-essential
[10:28] <Idriz> I have no wlan0 interface.
[10:28] <Idriz> Isn't that part of why my WIFI isn't working?
[10:29] <ppf> !paste lspci | egrep -i --color 'network|ethernet'  please
[10:29] <tomreyn> Idriz: which ubuntu, kernel version? lsb_release -ds; cat / proc/version
[10:30] <tomreyn> Idriz: which ubuntu, kernel version? lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version
[10:30] <tomreyn> ^ typo fixed
[10:30] <Idriz> Ubuntu 18.04 is the ubuntu version..
[10:30] <Idriz> let me check the kernel
[10:30] <Idriz> cause there was a typo
[10:30] <Idriz> Linux version 4.15.0-22-generic
[10:31] <tomreyn> Idriz: okay, i would assume the ecisting driver should work then. how about ppf's comand output?
[10:32] <oerheks> i shivver when i read  rtl8723be  .. you need to build them yourself, but no guarantee .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[10:32] <ppf> oerheks: that's 4 years old
[10:32] <Idriz> It's a laptop.
[10:32] <Idriz> bash: !paste: event not found
[10:32] <ppf> !past
[10:32] <Idriz> ppf: That's what it says, lol
[10:32] <ppf> !paste
[10:32] <ppf> that was an ubottu command whihc i screwed up
[10:33] <ppf> lspci | egrep -i --color 'network|ethernet'
[10:33] <oerheks> ppf, that does not mean it is not valid..
[10:33] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/raveyunoha
[10:34] <tomreyn> Idriz: lspci -nnk | grep -i network -A2
[10:35] <Idriz> tomreyn: https://hastebin.com/orocoyocon.css
[10:35] <tomreyn> and i concur, RTL8723 was and still is not well supported.
[10:35] <Idriz> Yeah, I know.
[10:35] <tomreyn> though things may have gotten less bad since 4.13/.14
[10:35] <Idriz> So what's the fix?
[10:36] <Idriz> I even tried installing drivers from open-source git repos.
[10:36] <Idriz> But they ended up to no avail, lol.
[10:37] <ppf> lspci says your ethernetcontroller is RTL8101/2/6E
[10:37] <Idriz> the fuck really
[10:38] <Idriz> ppf: That's the ethernet controller.
[10:38] <Idriz> Ethernet and bluetooth work fine.
[10:38] <Idriz> It's just the wireless that doesn't.
[10:38] <ppf> can you run lsusb?
[10:38] <oerheks> 18ec:b723 = RTL8723BE
[10:39] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/iwitenavob.css
[10:41] <ppf> oerheks: is right/ it's the cesnet device
[10:41] <Idriz> I know.
[10:41] <Idriz> How do I activate it then?
[10:42] <oerheks> odd is the BT part show up under lsusb, not lspci ..
[10:42] <ppf> what happened when you tried the OSS drivers
[10:42] <Idriz> Never tried any OSS drivers.
[10:42] <Idriz> What are OSS drivers?
[10:42] <ppf> from github you said
[10:43] <tomreyn> https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new is the best driver i'm aware of
[10:43] <Idriz> Exactly the one I tried, tomreyn.
[10:43] <Idriz> It just doesn't function.
[10:43] <ppf> so what happened when you did
[10:43] <Idriz> I followed each step.
[10:44] <Idriz> Everything did what it did.
[10:44] <Idriz> I rebooted.
[10:44] <Idriz> Nothing.
[10:44] <ppf> lsmod
[10:44] <Idriz> https://hastebin.com/befutohuse.nginx
[10:44] <tomreyn> "nothing" as in your computer would not start?
[10:44] <Idriz> Lots of stuff in here.
[10:45] <Idriz> tomreyn: No, nothing as in the WIFI adapter didn't load or work or show up.
[10:45] <ppf> lets of stuff but not the one you built
[10:45] <tomreyn> which one of these?
[10:45] <ppf> also lots of stuff
[10:45] <Idriz> uhh.
[10:45] <Idriz> It's a laptop.
[10:45] <Idriz> I didn't build anything.
[10:45] <ppf> you typed make, right
[10:45] <Idriz> yeah.
[10:45] <Idriz> I did.
[10:46] <Idriz> it all worked fine.
[10:46] <Idriz> but it didn't do anything.
[10:46] <Idriz> I'll try again for secondary measure, if you want me to.
[10:46] <ppf> sudo modprobe rtl8723be
[10:46] <oerheks> no message =  no error
[10:46] <Idriz> Yeah, no message.
[10:46] <Idriz> It produced no output.
[10:46] <ppf> lsmod?
[10:46] <Idriz> But it still didn't work after reboot.
[10:46] <oerheks> then proceed
[10:46] <Idriz> ppf: I'll be redoing the steps and let you know in a few.
[10:47] <Idriz> Is that fine?
[10:47] <ppf> what's the new output of lsmod
[10:47] <ppf> you don't need to redo anything
[10:47] <ppf> we don't know what you did the first time, so redoing won't help us ;)
[10:48] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/pesineyaya.coffeescript
[10:48] <ppf> it didn't load the module
[10:49] <Idriz> What's the fix then?
[10:50] <ppf> sudo modprobe -v rtl8723be
[10:50] <ducasse> to be blunt, the fix is to get a properly supported wifi adapter
[10:50] <tomreyn> the "fix", or the attempt to a fix, is to ensure your system has the updated driver available, then load it, then see whether it works.
[10:50] <Idriz> insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-22-generic/kernel/net/wireless/cfg80211.ko  insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-22-generic/kernel/net/mac80211/mac80211.ko  insmod /lib/modules/4.15.0-22-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtlwifi.ko  modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'rtl8723be': Required key not available
[10:50] <Idriz> oops, should have hastebinned
[10:50] <tomreyn> or rather, what ducasse said.
[10:50] <Idriz> ducasse: That's one dumb move.
[10:50] <Idriz> I bought a laptop specifically to use ubuntu, and I have to now buy an external wifi adapter?
[10:50] <Idriz> No thank you.
[10:51] <ppf> you should've bought a laptop then that wasn't built for windows only ;)
[10:51] <Idriz> ppf: But now it's too late for that, isn't it?
[10:52] <cfhowlett> realtek is very well known for being unfriendly with linux.  you bought one anyway.  as you've discovered it's a PITA to work with so a cheap wifi usb would seem to be a sane solution
[10:52] <ppf> Idriz: sure
[10:52] <Idriz> cfhowlett: I still want to know if there's a fix for this.
[10:52] <Idriz> If not, let me know.
[10:52]  * oerheks shivvers again ..
[10:53] <oerheks> an intel internal wifi card is like 15 euro
[10:53] <ppf> Idriz: so, modprobe doesn't load the module because it's not signed
[10:53]  * cfhowlett thinks realtek should be assigned to the "WUBI" category, i.e. that which shall not b uttered
[10:53] <Idriz> ppf: I'll redo the steps and I'll see for any other people who had the product who also bought a "windows machine ;)"
[10:53] <ppf> don't redo the steps ...
[10:54] <Idriz> I'll look into the issues on github.
[10:54] <ppf> why do people think doing something again will fix anything?
[10:54] <ppf> Idriz: disable secure boot
[10:54] <Idriz> I already have.
[10:54] <Idriz> I said that at the beginning of my question.
[10:54] <Idriz> Thanks for trying to help but I guess I need some other people to help me out.
[10:54] <ducasse> either turn off module verification, sign the module or switch off secure boot
[10:54] <Idriz> See you guys!
[10:54] <ducasse> or not
[10:55] <ppf> oh well
[10:55] <cfhowlett> at least he was courteous.
[10:55] <ppf> that was a waste of time
[10:55] <ppf> true
[10:58] <Lookme> https://tinyurl.com/ya79dnx5
[10:58] <qswz> I'm in the shit..  I started installing virtualbox, the console froze during installation, now synptic ask to run dpkg --configure
[10:58] <qswz> http://dpaste.com/2BA1NNR
[10:58] <ppf> Lookme: ?
[10:58] <qswz> and it still freezes
[10:59] <cfhowlett> qswz, so first drop the profanity.  then purge and reinstall vbox
[10:59] <qswz> I just want to remove virtualbox now.. I don't want of this mess
[10:59] <oerheks> Lookme, do we need to click that url?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> go ahead.  we won't tell.
[10:59] <qswz> Ok thanks
[10:59] <qswz> brb
[11:00] <oerheks> !spam | Lookme stop spamming on #freenode, thanks
[11:02] <qswz> sudo apt remove virtualbox
[11:02] <qswz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:02] <qswz> but I don't want to run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:02] <qswz> it'll freeze again
[11:02] <oerheks> not freezing, it is building a dkms.. just be patient
[11:03] <qswz> hmm k
[11:03] <qswz> thanks, let's hope
[11:03] <oerheks> as long as you can toggle caps lock, and see hdd led activity, it is fine
[11:04] <qswz> yep
[11:04] <Guest49252> Hello, what is new in the ubuntu world?
[11:04] <qswz> SSD here:)
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Guest49252, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <oerheks> news >> http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <Wulf> Good Morning
[11:11] <Artur> By installing build-essential package my packet menager install all it's dependencies. However What if I don't have internet connection and I can't use apt. Should I install all dependency one by one?
[11:11] <Artur> I have a pen drive.
[11:13] <Wulf> I installed 18.04 on a server. DNS resolution isn't working for "<somehost>.<mydomain>.local". I use netplan to configure a static ip address + dns servers. resolv.conf points at systemd-resolved. I'm aware that .local is reserved for mdns, but I cannot change the domain. How can I get the dns working?
[11:14] <Guest49252> All packages come from the server and the installation dependencies rely on an internet connection, therefore, there is no way to do this with a pen
[11:14] <tomreyn> !offline | Artur
[11:15] <tomreyn> Artur: if it's not against some policies you have there, then enabling internet access on this system will be a lot easier,t hough.
[11:16] <Artur> tomreyn: It's rather technical problem.
[11:17] <tomreyn> Artur: this sounds like it can be solvable.
[11:17] <Artur> I need to compile driver for my USB network interface
[11:17] <Artur> DWA-171
[11:17] <Artur> But to do so I need compilers
[11:18] <Artur> which were not installed with my system
[11:18] <tomreyn> Wulf: uninstall avahi-daemon
[11:19] <ppf> Artur: what problem are you trying to solve?
[11:19] <ppf> do you have an internet connection or not?
[11:19] <tomreyn> Artur: can you temporarily attach to a wired network?
[11:20] <Artur> ppf: On one machine where the linux is installed there is no internet connection.
[11:20] <Artur> So I use another computer where there is internet though.
[11:20] <Artur> tomreyn: No, unfortunately I can't.
[11:21] <ppf> you can download the package and dependencies locally and install them on the non-internetted pc
[11:21] <Artur> yes
[11:21] <Artur> that's what I am trying to do
[11:21] <ppf> yes?
[11:22] <ppf> ah
[11:22] <ppf> apt-get download $(apt-rdepends <package>|grep -v "^ ")
[11:22] <Artur> well another machine is macOS actually
[11:22] <Artur> I.e I've got home-brew only
[11:23] <tomreyn> install virtualbox and ubuntu on it, pass thorugh your usb thumb drive to that.
[11:23] <oerheks>  DLINK DWA-171 is based on a RealTek RTL8821AU
[11:23] <ppf> Artur: so you're asking us how to install packages on home-brew without internet connection?
[11:23] <tomreyn> least bad driver https://github.com/abperiasamy/rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux
[11:24] <oerheks> you need only build-essentials, i guess
[11:25] <Artur> ppf: 1.linux (PC - no internet) 2.macOS (Mac internet)
[11:25] <ppf> !offline | Artur
[11:25] <oerheks> https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au gives a driver that should work on 5 Ghz and 2.4 Ghz
[11:26] <oerheks> but nottested by me
[11:27] <Wulf> tomreyn: it's not installed.
[11:27] <Artur> oerheks: yeah, I will try this when I install necessary dependencies (make, gcc, g++, libc6 etc)
[11:28] <Artur> It' not binaries unfortunately.
[11:28] <ppf> what's not binaries
[11:28] <Artur> ppf: this repo: https://github.com/gnab/rtl8812au
[11:29] <Artur> it's source code to compiler
[11:29] <ppf> sure, install build-essential
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:30] <ppf> hi
[11:31] <tomreyn> Wulf: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1027255/having-problems-resolving-a-fqdn-on-my-local-network-from-ubuntu-18-04
[11:32] <Artur> I have question: If package A is depended on package B. So when I download manually package A Do I also get package B?
[11:32] <Artur> manually (not by package manager)
[11:32] <ppf> with my command above yes, also with the instructions of !offline
[11:32] <Wulf> tomreyn: that answer doesn't apply. My nsswitch.conf has no mdns
[11:33] <oerheks> Artur, nope.
[11:34] <tomreyn> Wulf: so you modified it already? since, by default. it would.
[11:34] <Wulf> tomreyn: I didn't
[11:35] <tomreyn> Wulf: hmm maybe that's actualyl different on a server, i only checked the defaults on a desktop.
[11:36] <tomreyn> i have no other suggestions available, unfortunately.
[11:36] <Wulf> tomreyn: all I did so far is modify /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml to setup static ip
[11:37] <tomreyn> how did you install?how did you install?
[11:37] <tomreyn> oops, ignore this
[11:37] <Wulf> tomreyn: pxe
[11:38] <tomreyn> is libnss-mdns installed? if so, try removing it.
[11:38] <tomreyn> pxe is about how you boot, not how you install.
[11:40] <alex__> hola alguien sabe regitrar un nick para este servidor?
[11:41] <tomreyn> !register | alex__
[11:41] <tomreyn> !es | alex__
[11:42] <tomreyn> de nada
[11:43] <john_rambo> Hi, I want to batch convert some video files by COPYING the video codec and change the audio to MP3...Any ideas ?
[11:43] <oerheks> ffmpeg is the best tool
[11:44] <Wulf> tomreyn: no, there is nothing with mdns installed
[11:44] <john_rambo> oerheks, I can successfully  convert 1 file with "ffmpeg -i input.mkv -vcodec copy -acodec mp3 output.mkv"
[11:45] <john_rambo> How to batch convert? oerheks
[11:46] <Wulf> Guess I'll just get rid of netplan and systemd-resolved. Seems to be useless stuff.
[11:46] <tomreyn> Wulf: then i wish you good luck at finding a way to overcome the problem (which is the TLD your environment chose to use), since i do not know other workarounds. please consider documenting your findings if you'll fiond more workarounds.
[11:48] <uselessnoob> hi
[11:48] <ppf> how do i create an iptables/ufw rule for my local network prefix?
[11:48] <uselessnoob> i just booted from a usb
[11:48] <ppf> (v6)
[11:49] <uselessnoob> but my stuff wont be saved . why ?
[11:49] <Wulf> tomreyn: solved it.
[11:49] <uselessnoob> if i restart this pc hexchat would be gone
[11:50] <tomreyn> Wulf: by pulling the plug?
[11:50] <uselessnoob> or every little settings that i have changed
[11:50] <uselessnoob> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7400  @ 2.80GHz (1.61GHz) • Memory: 2.9 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 2.9 GB / 17.3 GB (14.4 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] @ Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller • Uptime: 9m 41s
[11:50] <Wulf> From the resolved source code: /* If networks use .local in their private setups, they are supposed to also add .local to their search domains, which we already checked above. Otherwise, we consider .local specific to mDNS and won't send such queries ordinary DNS servers. */
[11:50] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: how did you install ubuntu on this usb storage?
[11:50] <ppf> if uselessnoob if you build the live cd to retain things you get a small partition on the usb stick to save stuff to
[11:51] <uselessnoob> i used rufus
[11:51] <uselessnoob> ppf, tomreyn ^^
[11:51] <tomreyn> Wulf: so you didnt have it on search?
[11:52] <uselessnoob> what should i do ? btw this usb memory is 8 GB
[11:52] <Wulf> tomreyn: yep
[11:52] <oerheks> !persistent
[11:52] <ppf> uselessnoob: ^
[11:53] <Wulf> tomreyn: my mistake, sure. But this behaviour of resolved is quite unexpected.
[11:53] <Mr_0bvious> Hey. I'm on KDE and Unity's notification system is taking over KDE's . how to I prevent it from doing that
[11:53] <tomreyn> Wulf: thanks for the info, i'll try to remember this for the next person asking.
[11:53] <uselessnoob> i dont want to install ubuntu. i just wanna run it from a usb memory when i need it
[11:53] <uselessnoob> i use windows as my main os
[11:53] <tomreyn> Wulf: having to resolve .local via dns is quitre unexpected
[11:53] <ppf> uselessnoob: yes, so install it on the usb disk
[11:53] <uselessnoob> i have
[11:54] <Wulf> tomreyn: not really
[11:54] <uselessnoob> OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04
[11:54] <ppf> you haven't, you're running the live disc
[11:54] <ppf> that's not the same thing
[11:54] <Wulf> tomreyn: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local#Microsoft_recommendations
[11:54] <uselessnoob> so how can i do that ppf ?
[11:54] <ppf>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:54] <Mcavendish> hello
[11:54] <Mcavendish> anyone using linux kernel 4.17 yet?
[11:55] <Wulf> Mcavendish: most likely
[11:55] <tomreyn> Wulf: right, i should have said anything but windows finds it to be unexpected.
[11:55] <uselessnoob> ppf im a noob i cant understand what that site says
[11:55] <Mcavendish> anyone using a display of 4k60hz?
[11:55] <Wulf> Mcavendish: most likely
[11:56] <Mcavendish> most likely
[11:56] <tomreyn> !ask | Mcavendish
[11:56] <uselessnoob> Method 1: Installing Ubuntu directly to USB drive from installer CD ?
[11:57] <Mcavendish> uh
[11:57] <uselessnoob> (btw xubuntu looks like an os from 2002)
[11:57] <tomreyn> Mcavendish: maybe this tip wasn't so useful. my point is: ask your actual question, no need for polls, they don't help.
[11:58] <Mcavendish> that is my actual question
[11:58] <Mcavendish> I want to know if anyone is using an amd gpu in the latest kernel, at 4k60hz
[11:58] <uselessnoob> ??
[11:58] <tomreyn> Mcavendish: that's not an ubuntu support question, though, ask in !offtopic then.
[11:59] <Mcavendish> I
[11:59] <Mcavendish> are you a computer
[11:59] <uselessnoob> so that website says i should select my usb drive as my target.
[11:59] <oerheks> kernel 4.17 is in mainline only, test it but without support
[11:59] <oerheks> !mainline
[12:00] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: right, the idea is to iunstall, but not to your hard disk as you usually would, but to your usb stuck instead
[12:00] <ppf> any help with ufw?
[12:00] <uselessnoob> thats it ?
[12:00] <uselessnoob> is it that simple ?
[12:00] <tomreyn> ppf: have your tried just specifying the CIDR?
[12:01] <uselessnoob> tomreyn,
[12:01] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: basically, yes. you just need to have two removable storages this way.
[12:01] <uselessnoob> y 2 ?
[12:01] <ppf> you mean just 2001:0db8:0123:4567::/64?
[12:01] <tomreyn> so either two usb sticks, or an optical drive and a usb stick.
[12:01] <ppf> tomreyn: ^
[12:01] <tomreyn> ppf: yes
[12:02] <ppf> sure that works, but what if the prefix changes
[12:02] <uselessnoob> i cant do it with only this usb stick ?
[12:02] <tomreyn> ppf: oh ok. good point. i dont know, sorry :-/
[12:03] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: you will need to boot into the ubuntu installer from one storage, then make that installer write to another storage.
[12:03] <uselessnoob> oh. so the installer cant write to itself ?
[12:03] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: no it cannot.
[12:04] <oerheks> no OS can do that..
[12:04] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: do you have either (a) a cd / dvd writer or (b) two usb sticks?
[12:04] <uselessnoob> i have but one of them is usb 2.0
[12:04] <uselessnoob> and my hard drive is dead
[12:05] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: so ho0w do you boot currently?
[12:05] <tomreyn> from which disk
[12:05] <uselessnoob> using that usb
[12:06] <uselessnoob> im using a live usb . tomreyn
[12:06] <nightmare_> hello there
[12:07] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: ok, i understand. i think you should probably buy a new hard disk or ssd then?
[12:07] <uselessnoob> i have another 8 gb usb disk can i use that ?
[12:07] <nightmare_> Im so glad to see some one's ative here :)
[12:08] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: if the "(an)other  8 gb usb disk" is your usb 2.0 usb stick then yes, you can install to that, it just will be slow, and you'll loose all data on this stick.
[12:10] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, idc there is no data on it .
[12:10] <uselessnoob> im looking for it right now.
[12:10] <tomreyn> as in, loose all data that is currently there, but you'll be able to save data to it later. usb sticks provide much less reliable storage than a hard disk or ssd would, though. so you may easily loose data if you'll work from an usb stick and should relaly only use this as a temporary measure.
[12:11] <nightmare_> people are you having some problem playing wmv files on VLC player too?
[12:11] <uselessnoob> its still good for experimenting linux right ? tomreyn
[12:11] <qswz> Building initial module for 4.15.0-22-generic
[12:11] <qswz> still there
[12:11] <qswz> after 1 hour
[12:11] <uselessnoob> im not going to save nsa-grade data on it lol
[12:12] <ppf> qswz: run htop. is it doing anything
[12:12] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: it's fine for experimenting. but you say your HDD is broken, this sounds like a problem you should handle, by replacing it. you will want to have *some* reliable storage.
[12:12] <uselessnoob> no my external hdd is broken
[12:12] <qswz> ppf: oops, not installd
[12:12] <qswz> and apt is locked
[12:12] <ppf> top instead?
[12:12] <uselessnoob> not the one installed in my system
[12:13] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: i see, this wasn't clear from what you said so far.
[12:13] <nightmare_> how can I reply to someone's message here ?
[12:14] <uselessnoob> sorry im just too excited right now.
[12:14] <qswz> http://dpaste.com/2K654SZ
[12:14] <blackflow> oh my goodness, the gnome calculator is a snap in Bionic? 170MB just for a calculator? who EVER thought this was a good idea? LOOOOOOL
[12:14] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: so if you have another working OS, and you also have enough RAM and cpu performance, then you could also run ubuntu in a VM on your other / default operating system.
[12:15] <tomreyn> nightmare_: you just start your message with their nickname, like i just did here.
[12:15] <uselessnoob> no thats not an option for me
[12:15] <uselessnoob> installing ubuntu on a usb drive is better for me.
[12:15] <qswz> ppf: it seems not activelydoing some work for kvm
[12:15] <nightmare_> tomreyn: thank you !
[12:15] <tomreyn> nightmare_: welcome
[12:16] <qswz> dkms* sorry
[12:16] <ioria> qswz, you were doing what ? installing nvidia ?
[12:16] <qswz> I tried to install virtualbox
[12:16] <qswz> it took super long, I killed the terminal, rebooted,  I http://dpaste.com/2BA1NNR
[12:17] <qswz> then apt asked me to reconfigure ^
[12:17] <OnceMe> i want to find all hosts which use my wifi  but i get (0 hosts up) with sudo nmap -O <IP_ADDRESS>/24 which is incorrect, i have at least 3 devices on my wifi
[12:17] <qswz> and now I'm waiting for it to finish
[12:17] <qswz> I'll need to remove DKMSmanually
[12:17] <uselessnoob> btw can i go through the installation process without a mouse tomreyn ?
[12:18] <nightmare_> OnceMe: isn't it called Clients instead of Hosts ?
[12:18] <uselessnoob> because i have to unplug my mouse in order to plug in the other usb drive
[12:18] <OnceMe> yes
[12:18] <OnceMe> but Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 206.41 seconds
[12:18] <OnceMe> I nowere see clients statsu
[12:20] <nightmare_> OnceMe: I remember it was for seeing open ports , at least Ive used it for such things
[12:20] <OnceMe> how would I find all devcies connected on mt wifi?
[12:20] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: i never tried that for the desktop installer. with the server installer, it'll work. so maybe use that instead.
[12:20] <ioria> qswz, it's probably a bug... the sys is basically waiting for a  Secure Boot password  prompt (that does not exist)
[12:21] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: do oyu have a keyboard, though? and a monitor?
[12:21] <qswz> ah yes, I had this a few weeks ago
[12:21] <qswz> when I tried installing it
[12:21] <qswz> well, now I simply want to get rid of virtualbox
[12:21] <nightmare_> OnceMe: you can use GUI for that.. go to networks and probably you can find it /or doing some netstat may be useful
[12:22] <ioria> qswz, so if atp is broken, i suggest (not sure)  dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[12:22] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, i found my usb drive
[12:22] <qswz> ok let's try
[12:22] <uselessnoob> and its 16 gb
[12:22] <uselessnoob> usb 3.0
[12:22] <qswz> need to reboot first, brb
[12:23] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: congratulations?
[12:26] <uselessnoob> im formatting it
[12:27] <qswz> whoever told me dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq
[12:27] <qswz> Bit Thank
[12:27] <qswz> Big Thanks
[12:30] <nightmare_> qswz: does it make any difference using or not using that force opt? because last time i couldnt remove amd driver even with root privilage...
[12:31] <qswz> it worked
[12:31] <qswz> I had to sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox-qt
[12:31] <qswz> then virtualbox then virtualbox-dkms
[12:34] <tomreyn> nightmare_: you shouldn't use the force options with dpkg unless you know exactly what they will result in and how to recover from the side effects doing so may (or may not) have.
[12:35] <xubuntu_> almost done
[12:36] <nightmare_> tomreyn: I'm agree with you. that time I was booted from safe mode trying to fix the crash of my ubuntu...because I had installed a wrong version of driver and I had got into trouble
[12:38] <Idriz> Hi everyone, back here again.
[12:38] <nightmare_> Idriz, hello to you :)
[12:38] <Idriz> I'm having an issue with my wifi adapter, it's an rtl8723be model type by realtek(the worst company on earth), and so my wifi adapter isn't working.
[12:38] <Idriz> I'm _this_ close to getting the error fixed, the modules are being loaded in the kernel after I cloned the source of an open-source project called rtlwifi_new.
[12:39] <Idriz> However, it still doesn't appear on the tab.
[12:39] <Idriz> I'm running ubuntu 18.04.
[12:39] <ppf> what tab
[12:39] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, done
[12:39] <Idriz> ppf: Wdym?
[12:39] <uselessnoob> usb disk is plugged in
[12:39] <Idriz> oh nvm
[12:40] <uselessnoob> now what tomreyn
[12:40] <Idriz> I was also able to activate the module in the kernel with the modprobe command after tinkering in my BIOS.
[12:40] <Idriz> But it still doesn't pop up :/
[12:40] <ppf> pop up?
[12:40] <uselessnoob> ?
[12:41] <nightmare_> Idriz, you mean you can't see wifi opt in the task bar ?
[12:41] <Idriz> nightmare_ yeah, I can't see like the wifi icon.
[12:41] <uselessnoob> Method 1: Installing Ubuntu directly to USB drive from installer CD
[12:41] <Idriz> also I don't have a wlan0 or whatever ti is..
[12:41] <uselessnoob> oh sorry
[12:41] <uselessnoob> The installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions:
[12:41] <uselessnoob> Do you want the installer to try to unmount the partitions on these disks before continuing?  If you leave them mounted, you will not be able to create, delete, or resize partitions on these disks, but you may be able to install to existing partitions there.
[12:42] <uselessnoob> what should i do ?
[12:42] <ppf> Idriz: don't have?
[12:42] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: you boot the computer form your ubuntu installer usb stick, then choose the option to install, and select the other usb storage as a target device.
[12:42] <ppf> Idriz: use complete sentences please?
[12:42] <nightmare_> use your GUI and go to >> network and see if the "airplane mode" is enabled or "wifi" is disabled
[12:42] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, ^^
[12:42] <uselessnoob> should i click on yes ?
[12:43] <nightmare_> uselessnoob, be carefull
[12:43] <oerheks> nightmare_, there is no stable driver for that combo rtl8723be
[12:43] <Idriz> hmm
[12:43] <nightmare_> you may delete everything on your system
[12:43] <uselessnoob> thats y im asking nightmare_
[12:43] <Idriz> I'm using 18.04, there's no Airplane mode setting here.
[12:43] <uselessnoob> should i click on yes ?
[12:43] <Idriz> I'm currently tethering my wifi connection from my phone to here.
[12:43] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: yes, you can try, it will either work or fail if you selected the wrong device
[12:44] <oerheks> boot in live mode to see what device name the 2nd usb is: sda/sdb/sdc ...
[12:44] <Idriz> nightmare_: Nope, no airplane mode, nothing blocking it from being enabled, is there a way I can send you a screenshot of what I mean?
[12:44] <oerheks> then hit install onthe dekstop
[12:44] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: i'm assuming you did what i said before.
[12:45] <uselessnoob> This computer currently has Windows 10 on it. What would you like to do?
[12:45] <uselessnoob> i have 4 options
[12:45] <nightmare_> Idriz,I got you...so probably it isnt installed...the driver I mean.and btw yes you can send me files from the menu >> send fiels
[12:45] <nightmare_> files*
[12:45] <uselessnoob> dualboot
[12:45] <uselessnoob> something else
[12:46] <nightmare_> uselessnoob,  do you have the option to " install ubuntu alongside wondows 10" ?
[12:46] <uselessnoob> yeah
[12:46] <uselessnoob> but as i said i wanna install xubuntu on a usb disk
[12:46] <p21k> use live cd
[12:46] <nightmare_> uselessnoob, so you can click o it and in the next page drag the horizontal slider to choose how much space do you want for your ubuntu and click install
[12:47] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: take a screen shot of what you see now.
[12:47] <Idriz> nightmare_, my internet is really slow so I can't do that, if i use the lshw -C network command, it shows me that theres a *network Unclaimed, where the driver is the realtek one.
[12:47] <uselessnoob> how
[12:47] <Idriz> So how would I claim it?
[12:47] <uselessnoob> tomreyn,
[12:47] <Idriz> https://hastebin.com/ovuzocogox.coffeescript
[12:47] <ppf> Idriz: did you load the driver
[12:47] <uselessnoob> where can i paste the pic
[12:48] <p21k> imgshack
[12:48] <Idriz> ppf with?
[12:48] <tomreyn> !paste | uselessnoob
[12:48] <ppf> modprobe
[12:48] <Idriz> Yeah.
[12:48] <uselessnoob> sorry i cant access imgur
[12:48] <Idriz> I tried restarting the network service or whatever.
[12:48] <Idriz> There wasn't any changes.
[12:48] <nightmare_> Idriz, as I know some people wait for XX.04.1 or above release to get an stable version of ubuntu. you can just use 16.04.4 LTS if that doesn't clear the question anyway
[12:49] <ppf> Idriz: paste lsmod
[12:49] <nightmare_> for instance Im using this version at the time
[12:49] <Idriz> kk
[12:49] <Idriz> https://hastebin.com/sacowoliqe.coffeescript
[12:49] <uselessnoob> plz wait
[12:49] <nightmare_> Idriz, seems like youre not using it
[12:50] <nightmare_> wait a minute
[12:50] <Idriz> wdym
[12:50] <ppf> rtl8723be is loaded, so that's good
[12:50] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/2ea67a48c73f617627d029b081c7c4a0
[12:50] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, ^^
[12:50] <ppf> is there any dmesg output related to it?
[12:50] <Idriz> What's dmesg output?
[12:50] <ppf> dmesg
[12:50] <Idriz> Oh.
[12:50] <Idriz> Let me paste it.
[12:51] <ppf> dmesg | grep rtl8723
[12:51] <nightmare_> ppf, he has to change that config file to enable the device I think
[12:51] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: did you select a targte device in an earlier step?
[12:51] <Idriz> https://hastebin.com/equtolisal.sql
[12:51] <tomreyn> *target
[12:51] <uselessnoob> no
[12:51] <oerheks> somthing else > change destination to your 2nd usb > hit back > then continue installation
[12:51] <nightmare_> Idriz, type cd /dev and find your device
[12:51] <uselessnoob> it didnt ask that
[12:51] <uselessnoob> tomreyn,
[12:51] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: okay then do "something else" and post another screenshot
[12:52] <nightmare_> and then go to it's configure file and see what can you do about it to make taht 0 change to 1 and use it
[12:52] <uselessnoob> ok
[12:52] <Idriz> nightmare_ what do you mean by my device?
[12:52] <ppf> nightmare_: what are you on about?
[12:52] <ppf> neither sentence makes sense ;)
[12:52] <Idriz> :shrug:
[12:52] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/0f6066ede30df5f03d67a1fb6e9c79e4
[12:52] <ppf> Idriz: is it the right driver?
[12:52] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, ^^
[12:52] <Idriz> Yeah, the right one.
[12:52] <ppf> lspci?
[12:53] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/satimawosu.pl
[12:53] <ppf> okay
[12:53] <uselessnoob> my usb device is there
[12:53] <uselessnoob> silicon power
[12:53] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: does "UFD 3.0 Silicon-Power16G", a storage with 16 GB capacity, sound like the usb storage you want to install to?
[12:53] <uselessnoob> yes
[12:54] <uselessnoob> yes tomreyn
[12:54] <ppf> Idriz: you had rebooted, right? with the driver in modules?
[12:54] <Idriz> Yep.
[12:54] <Idriz> you suggest I do it again or?
[12:54] <Idriz> cause it might not persist thru restarts, and if that's the case, what would you recommend I do?
[12:54] <ppf> did you add the driver in modules?
[12:54] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: then click on the line which says so and select 'install now'
[12:55] <Idriz> with modprobe?
[12:55] <uselessnoob> Device for boot loader installation : should i cahnge it to UFD 3.0 Silicon-Power16G
[12:55] <uselessnoob> ?
[12:55] <ppf> no, with an editor
[12:55] <Idriz> :gritting_teeth: maybe I didn't
[12:55] <Idriz> Yeah, I didn't.
[12:55] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: yes, oyu need to
[12:55] <Idriz> ppf: How would I do that?
[12:55] <ppf> sudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:55] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: glad you pointed this out, i missed it.
[12:55] <Idriz> do I just type the driver name?
[12:55] <ppf> yes
[12:56] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/c3fd76ae0632375a145ed0010e743e40
[12:56] <Idriz> alright.
[12:56] <Idriz> gonna reboot.
[12:56] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, ^^ is it correct ?
[12:57] <uselessnoob> there is a change option
[12:57] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: looks fine to me, both the target device for ubuntu installation and the target device for boot loader installation make sense.
[12:57] <uselessnoob> but when i click on change it shows me these options us as :
[12:58] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/029879c2fe5dca08b8c396f5cd148e8d   <<tomreyn
[12:58] <Idriz_> ppf: I'm back.
[12:58] <Idriz_> No changes.
[12:59] <ppf> any dmesg output?
[12:59] <ppf> lsmod?
[12:59] <Idriz_> Yeah, the rtl8723be is in lsmod.
[12:59] <uselessnoob> i think i should change that
[12:59] <uselessnoob> ?
[13:00] <Idriz_> ppf: dmesg does not output anything regarding the driver, no.
[13:00] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: actually do this: cancel the 'change' prompt. then click on the last but one line which also says "/dev/sdc" but does not say 'fat32'. then, click on 'new partition table', then show another screenshot.
[13:00] <uselessnoob> ??
[13:00] <ppf> interesting. can you paste the modinfo for the module?
[13:00]  * fgrtgrth slaps _Dbug_ around a bit with a large trout
[13:01] <Idriz_> wtf is going on
[13:01] <uselessnoob> change prompt canceled
[13:01] <Idriz_> i'm clicking randomly around the screen lol
[13:01] <Idriz_> ah nvm fixed
[13:01] <uselessnoob> Device for boot loader installation: u mean this tomreyn ?
[13:01] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: no
[13:01] <uselessnoob> the what ?
[13:01] <Idriz_> ppf: https://hastebin.com/eworaroxev.vbs
[13:02] <uselessnoob> oh got it
[13:02] <uselessnoob> plz wait
[13:03] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/c5b5b773cdf0adcfa4e9ddcea2b30902     u mean this tomreyn
[13:04] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: right. unfortunately cyou can't create a new partition table there. so just hit "install now".
[13:04] <uselessnoob> u sure ?
[13:04] <uselessnoob> what about Device for boot loader installation ?
[13:04] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: remains on /dev/sdc
[13:04] <tomreyn> yes i am sure
[13:04] <Idriz_> ppf: ideas?
[13:05] <nightmare_> Idriz_ it didn't get fixed?
[13:05] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, i cant click on that silicon power one ?
[13:05] <Idriz_> nightmare_ No, all I did was just make the module enable automatically on boot
[13:05] <Idriz_> do you have any other ideas?
[13:06] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/94e8c0acd794c5c901f2dbb3df380df7    <<u mean this tomreyn
[13:06] <nightmare_> no ideas ... I'm just thinking if you've had made a pramanent change to the file or just a momentry change ...
[13:07] <uselessnoob> ?
[13:07] <Idriz_> ppf: ?
[13:07] <Danawar[UK]> Hi Ubuntu after updating last night a couple of my snaps are no longer working can any one advise - https://pastebin.com/c7CR0iZr
[13:08] <uselessnoob> ?/
[13:08] <Idriz_> nightmare_ how would one change the options that you find in modinfo?
[13:09] <nightmare_> Danawar[UK]: use "sudo" before spotify
[13:09] <nightmare_> Idriz_, I will check it now
[13:09] <uselessnoob> so should i click on install now tomreyn
[13:09] <ppf> Idriz_: you could enable debugging
[13:09] <ppf> debug=5
[13:10] <Idriz_> hmm
[13:10] <Idriz_> what about those power saving options? ppf
[13:10] <Idriz_> what might they be doing?
[13:10] <Danawar[UK]> nightmare_: I should not be running snaps as super user.
[13:10] <ppf> Idriz_: you can switch it off if you like
[13:10] <Idriz_> how?
[13:10] <ppf> set them =0
[13:10] <Idriz_> but how would you set them to a specific value?
[13:10] <Idriz_> what's the command to do so?
[13:11] <ppf> add that to modprobe/modules
[13:11] <uskerine_> hi, I am trying to install this: https://b00merang.weebly.com/windows-10.html   I have managed to install the theme and icons with unity-tweak-tool, but still window menus are in the top bar and the top bar is not integrated with the launcher bar (as in regular windows) . Does anyone know how to do that so the look is similar to Windows? Thanks. Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[13:11] <uselessnoob> https://paste.pics/38CXV          <<i got this error
[13:11] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: your link returns a "404 page not found" error
[13:11] <uselessnoob> tomreyn,  open this new one
[13:12] <uselessnoob> ^^
[13:12] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: press ok. then select the bottom /dev/sdc again, click on 'change' again and tell me what you may choose from there.
[13:13] <Idriz> ppf: Alright, I'm back.
[13:13] <uselessnoob> ok
[13:13] <Idriz> No, those settings didn't do anything.
[13:13] <ppf> what do you mean they didn't do anything?
[13:13] <JackPeralta99> Is snap package auto updated as part of apt-get upgrade or do i need to do anything extra?
[13:13] <Idriz> They didn't make the WiFi icon appear.
[13:13] <ppf> you set debug to 5 and it didn't output anything?
[13:13] <Idriz> No, didn't do that yet.
[13:13] <Idriz> Let me do that one.
[13:13] <uselessnoob> ext4 journaling file system
[13:14] <uselessnoob> ext3 journaling file system
[13:14] <Idriz> ppf: modprobe rtl8723be debug=5
[13:14] <Idriz> like that, right?
[13:14] <uselessnoob> ext2 file system
[13:14] <ppf> if the module is already loaded you need to remove it first
[13:14] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: are you able to remove this partition somehow?
[13:14] <uselessnoob> btrfs journaling file system
[13:15] <uselessnoob> no
[13:15] <uselessnoob> y ?
[13:15] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: can you cancel this prompt and click on the "-" on the left below the devices table?
[13:15] <uselessnoob> let me see
[13:15] <ppf> btrfs isn't journaling
[13:15] <uselessnoob> but y ?
[13:15] <Danawar[UK]> What is uselessnoob trying to do?
[13:16] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/koxobisiqe.go I ran the lshw -C network command.
[13:16] <Idriz> This is what it output.
[13:16] <Idriz> how would I claim that *UNCLAIMED thing.
[13:16] <uselessnoob> im trying to install xubuntu on a usb drive
[13:16] <ppf> Idriz: getting the driver to work. what's the debug output?
[13:16] <uselessnoob> tomreyn, no i cant click on that - icon
[13:16] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: fdisk -l . find the USB drive write ext4 over it then try and install on it?
[13:16] <Idriz> ppf: forgot to read your message a little while ago you sent
[13:17] <Idriz> let me remove it
[13:17] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: okay, close the entire installation window and cancel the installation, but keep the live ubuntu running
[13:17] <uselessnoob> y ?
[13:17] <uselessnoob> ok done
[13:17] <Idriz> ppf: Reloaded it, no debug messages sending.
[13:17] <uselessnoob> installation canceled
[13:17] <ppf> with debug set to 5?
[13:17] <Idriz> yep.
[13:17] <tomreyn> !who | uselessnoob
[13:18] <uselessnoob> ok
[13:18] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: If you know it is /dev/sdc then parted -a opt /dev/sdc mkpart primary ext4 0% 100%
[13:18] <uselessnoob> what ? Danawar[UK]
[13:18] <ppf> can you run modprobe -v ... debug=5?
[13:18] <uselessnoob> im a noob Danawar[UK]
[13:18] <ppf> (after removing)
[13:18] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: do you know 100% that /dev/sdc is your USB?
[13:19] <uselessnoob> yes i know it is /dev/sdc since it says the name of my usb drive infront of it Danawar[UK]
[13:19] <Idriz> ppf: https://hastebin.com/sotozakisu.nginx
[13:19] <Idriz> that's the output after running that
[13:19] <uselessnoob> silicon power 16 gb
[13:19] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: Open a terminal and type fdisk -l and show me the output
[13:19] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: open a terminal window (press ctrl-alt-t) and type this: sudo echo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=1024 count=1
[13:19] <ppf> Idriz: and in dmesg?
[13:19] <uselessnoob> ok i should listen to who ? lol
[13:19] <tomreyn> uselessnoob: or work with Danawar[UK], i don't mind.
[13:20] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: tomreyn will wipe it fully so try that
[13:20] <uselessnoob> can i avoid terminal Danawar[UK]
[13:20] <uselessnoob> ?
[13:20] <Idriz> ppf: Are you mentally ready?
[13:20] <Idriz> https://hastebin.com/asuhifomuj.go
[13:20] <p21k> uselessnoob, if u want to use linux get used to it
[13:20] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: Yes launch disk manager
[13:20] <uselessnoob> can i use the installer ?
[13:20] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: Not always
[13:20] <ppf> Idriz: so debug=5 just does nothing ... from that i can only conclude that the driver is broken
[13:21] <uselessnoob> plz wait]
[13:21] <Idriz> it works on windows perfectly fine
[13:21] <Idriz> so I wouldn't know why
[13:21] <ppf> wat. it's a linux driver
[13:21] <nightmare_> Idriz: you may wanna rmmod and then insmod it ?
[13:21] <Idriz> ppf: I'm dual booting with windows.
[13:21] <uselessnoob> fdisk: cannot open /dev/loop0: Permission denied
[13:21] <uselessnoob> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sda: Permission denied
[13:21] <uselessnoob> fdisk: cannot open /dev/fd0: Permission denied
[13:21] <uselessnoob> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: Permission denied
[13:21] <uselessnoob> fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdc: Permission denied
[13:21] <tomreyn> !paste | uselessnoob
[13:21] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: type sudo su
[13:22] <Idriz> nightmare_: did that rmmod part.
[13:22] <Idriz> now how do I insmod?
[13:22] <Danawar[UK]> uselessnoob: Welcome back use sudo su to escalate your privilages
[13:22] <nightmare_> Idriz, just type >> insmod and then the name of the module you wanna install
[13:22] <ppf> Idriz: i guess get an external wifi adapter with linux support
[13:23] <Idriz> nightmare_: insmod: ERROR: could not insert module rtl8723be: No such device
[13:23] <nightmare_> try taht in sudo mode
[13:23] <Idriz> I did.
[13:23] <nightmare_> weird :/
[13:23] <Idriz> now what? lol
[13:23] <ppf> not at all
[13:23] <ppf> don't use insmod, use modprobe
[13:23] <nightmare_> cuz I remember you saw it in lsmod ??
[13:23] <Idriz> yeah, I did.
[13:23] <Idriz> I had it in lsmod.
[13:24] <Idriz> That's a good thing, isn't it?
[13:24] <Idriz> ppf: that -*network UNCLAIMED
[13:24] <nightmare_> yeah it is :D
[13:24] <Idriz> is there a command to claim that?
[13:24] <nightmare_> how about now ? can you see it in lsmod?
[13:24] <ppf> yes, load a working driver
[13:24] <Idriz> with modprobe?
[13:24] <Idriz> nightmare_: let me check
[13:24] <Idriz> nightmare_: it's there.
[13:25] <Idriz> nightmare_: https://hastebin.com/utehixuquk.nginx
[13:25] <p21k> clear
[13:25] <uskerine_> wow, window max, min and restore icons can not be placed in the top right corner in ubuntu 16.04
[13:25] <Idriz> I think I should load rtlwifi instead of all of those ppf
[13:25] <nightmare_> Idriz, modprobe is better than insmod in the point of handeling "dependencies"
[13:25] <Idriz> yeah, you told me to do insmod
[13:25] <ppf> Idriz: load it then
[13:25] <Idriz> and after ppf said do modprobe I did modprobe
[13:25] <Idriz> with what command?
[13:25] <ppf> modprobe
[13:26] <Idriz> Yeah, it still doesn't add the wifi thing.
[13:26] <nightmare_> Idriz, why is it orange?
[13:26] <Idriz> nightmare_ wdym
[13:26] <DannyE> I installed ubuntu a month ago and I had to add UEFI file to my bios to be able to boot into ubuntu. I have been trying to do a clean install and I am not able to boot into ubuntu anymore even when I try to add the UEFI file. I get this image when I try to https://ibb.co/IZcBQ8 Also when I try to readd the UEFI file shimx64 it says that it already exists. I am at a loss of what to do I can install windows and it will boot up no problem
[13:26] <ppf> "the wifi thing"?
[13:26] <ppf> full sentences please
[13:26] <Idriz> ppf: You know exactly what I mean, lmao, the wifi icon, adapter, they don't show up.
[13:26] <Idriz> I can't connect to a wireless connection.
[13:27] <ppf> i have no idea what you mean
[13:27] <nightmare_> Idriz, the module name in the lsmod is orange right?
[13:27] <p21k> DannyE, the link you send doesn't work
[13:27] <Idriz> No, that's just hastebin.
[13:27] <uselessnoob> ?
[13:27] <nightmare_> oh .okay
[13:27] <Idriz> ppf: The icon that is used to browse nearby wireless connections isn't working
[13:27] <tomreyn> DannyE: https://ibb.co/IZcBQ8 returns a 404
[13:27] <ppf> okay, that's just NetworkManager, we don't care about that right now
[13:28] <Idriz> can you downgrade from 18.04 to 16.04?
[13:28] <DannyE> https://ibb.co/iZcBQ8
[13:28] <tomreyn> DannyE: you shuld probably also discuss your hardware and the ubuntu release you are trying to install.
[13:29] <tomreyn> !downgrade | Idriz
[13:29] <Idriz> oof, no thanks
[13:29] <DannyE> tomreyn: my hardware is an Acer Aspire Cloudbook 14 and the release is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[13:29] <ppf> Idriz: did it work on 16.04?
[13:29] <Idriz> ppf: No, this is the first time I try any linux-related distro.
[13:29] <ppf> okay
[13:29] <Idriz> I've been using windows for a long time.
[13:30] <nightmare_> Idriz: if you couldn't find the solution you can wait for the 18.04.1 LTS
[13:30] <Idriz> which comes out when exactly?
[13:30] <ppf> bottom line: the driver appears to be broken. feel free to try other ones, but that HW is not supported on ubuntu
[13:30] <ppf> 18.04.1 won't fix that
[13:30] <tomreyn> DannyE: does your bios allow you to switch between using uefi on the one hand and one of "CSM (compatibility support module)" or "legacy bios" booting?
[13:31] <Idriz> ppf: I beg to differ, actually. the realtek drivers aren't generally supported, but there are some from the rtl-prefix that are indeed supported by linux.
[13:31] <Idriz> They just haven't supported my version, atleast, yet.
[13:31] <ppf> sure, but not that one
[13:31] <Idriz> at this point I'm going out of my way to trying open-source drivers.
[13:31] <Idriz> Which doesn't seem to be that great of an idea, lol.
[13:31] <DannyE> tomreyn: Yes but I have tried booting with UEFI & Secure Boot enabled, Secure Boot Disabled, & Legacy mode and I get the same screen everytime.
[13:32] <nightmare_> have you ever tried installing frivers manually
[13:32] <nightmare_> ?
[13:32] <nightmare_> Drivers**
[13:32] <ppf> Idriz: just get an external wifi adapter
[13:33] <cfhowlett> https://www.amazon.com/Panda-300Mbps-Wireless-USB-Adapter/dp/B00EQT0YK2/ref=sr_1_4/146-1324806-5359158?ie=UTF8&qid=1528551152&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+linux+wifi+adapter  or you can continue to fight with realtek
[13:34] <ppf> there's one by edimax, it's tiny, works on linux, and is like 8€ on amazon
[13:35] <tomreyn> DannyE: you may need to set a supervisor password and add the ubuntu uefi secureboot shim (if not already there) and remove the windows one(s).
[13:35] <nightmare_> how can I find out if my wifi module has the abillity of capture mode and monitor mode ?
[13:35] <tomreyn> DannyE: i'm looking at http://www.fascinatingcaptain.com/product-reviews/the-acer-one-cloudbook-14-a-super-affordable-linux-laptop/ which seems to be your model (although there are many variants of it)
[13:36] <DannyE> tomreyn: I did that the first time I ever installed ubuntu and it booted but after doing a reinstall I can't boot in at all
[13:36] <ppf> nightmare_: that's a driver feature
[13:36] <ppf> just switch it on and see if it works
[13:37] <DannyE> tomreyn: When I try to readd the shimx64.efi file it says it already exists. That's why im here for help because I don't know what else to do
[13:37] <tomreyn> DannyE: also verify it's booting in the right order: the eMMC block device needs to have a lower boot priority than the USB bootable device in bios / uefi. if you stick to "Secure Boot": use BIOS menu to trust the Ubuntu bootloader.
[13:38] <nightmare_> ppf, you meann by typing airmon-ng?
[13:38] <ppf> yes, for example
[13:39] <DannyE> tomreyn: I don't have that option to chose which one I trust. I can add the UEFI file and change the boot order but that's it.
[13:39] <tomreyn> DannyE: you can usually remove existing .efi files from the bios itself (be casreful not to remove them all) or do it from a linux live system by just mounting the file system which is on the emmc and flagged 'esp'
[13:39] <DannyE> tomreyn: How do you go about doing that?
[13:40] <nightmare_> ppf, for intering monitor mode should I disconnect from my phone hotspot??
[13:40] <nightmare_> entering*
[13:40] <tomreyn> DannyE: which one?
[13:41] <DannyE> tomreyn: Removing EFI files
[13:41] <tomreyn> DannyE: well i don't know your bios. if you do it on linux, as i said, you just moun tthe partition form the emmc, and then you just delete the files you ddon't want.
[13:42] <DannyE> alright
[13:43] <tomreyn> DannyE: this might also help, note the hint on resetting the bios / efi to defaults to restore the original efi files (but then you need to install the ubuntu efi file again) https://askubuntu.com/questions/971108/ubuntu-17-10-on-acer-cloudbook-14-ao1-431
[13:44] <tomreyn> a firmware update may also help.
[13:54] <bodie_> what is the best way to install kde in my existing ubuntu 18.04 gnome3 installation?
[13:54] <bodie_> btw, I had to switch back to lightdm since gdm3 has a bug
[13:55] <bodie_> or rather there is some bug impacting the use of gdm3 in 18.04 which is worked around via switching to lightdm :P
[13:55] <bodie_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1705369
[14:08] <blakes5> Hey all, I have a previously working install of XRDP that has suddenly stopped working. When connecting to the remote machine no login is presented and only a black screen is seen. Running Ubuntu 16.04.
[14:21] <one808> hello
[14:22] <xpmash> hey 1808
[14:25] <Guest95247> hi
[14:58] <EriC^^> !ping
[15:09] <Guest95247> hey guys
[15:30] <matjam> yo
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> Im trying to solve this systemd bug from 18.04 release, but im out of ideas getting a slow login to desktop boot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1742063 if anyone else experience this, please add affected?
[15:37] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: somewhere I read it's about lack of entropy and something having changed in recent kernels about that. See if installing haveged would help.
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: whats haveged
[15:38] <blackflow> !haveged
[15:38] <blackflow> !info haveged
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> lemme check that blackflow
[15:39] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: I install it on all linux machines. basically keeps in-kernel entropy at the configured level using the said algorithm
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: do i need to config it somehow, or just a good old reboot?
[15:40] <blackflow> just reboot
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> cool
[15:40] <blackflow> actualyl you don't even need to reboot, it starts a service that starts filling up entropy right away. but in your case, you wanna test if that fixes the boot delays, right?
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> yeah brb
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: not as fast as i would wish, lemme paste you blame
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: https://hastebin.com/ucomazohif.go
[15:45] <blackflow> huh look at that plymouth thing. Tried booting with no plymouth splash?
[15:46] <blackflow> I run without it because I have LUKS'd disks and nvidia which makes plymouth very very ugly (and before bionic, actually unusable)
[15:46] <blackflow> 1ms on plymouth-quit-wait.service here
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: change grub to "" no splash?
[15:47] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: yup. you can keep 'quiet' tho
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> but that will give me textboot till  GUI login right?
[15:47] <blackflow> with 'quiet' that will give you black screen until login yes
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: systemd boot time is pretty quick, its the time from login to desktop only that lags
[15:47] <blackflow> without 'quiet' it'll show systemd output yes
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: Startup finished in 6.539s (kernel) + 29.576s (userspace) = 36.115s
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> graphical.target reached after 29.516s in userspace
[15:50] <uselessnoob> im looking for a guy that has a [UK] at the end if his name
[15:50] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: "plymouth-quit-wait.service - Hold until boot process finishes up"    I don't know what it actualyl does, but if "hold until boot process finishes up" took 24 seconds, out of 29 in total for userland... I'd start by looking at that.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> !logs | uselessnoob perhaps here?
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: yeah ive been looking up a few about that wait service, not sure either
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: weird you got 1ms
[15:51] <uselessnoob> [uk]
[15:53] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: well, see if no 'splash' helps.
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: ok ill test
[15:57] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: no good?
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: no dice no, but now plymouth service is gone from blame
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: Startup finished in 10.523s (kernel) + 6.519s (userspace) = 17.043s
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> graphical.target reached after 6.013s in userspace
[15:59] <blackflow> well that's not that bad, is it?
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: well, im on a samsung 850 pro ssd and im comparing with unity
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: and got preload installed aswell
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: and trimmed down some services and systemd services
[16:01] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: here's mine (samsung 750 ssd):   Startup finished in 20.843s (kernel) + 6.651s (userspace) = 27.495s     I guess that kernel time includes me typing in the LUKS passphrase + whole LUKS mounting and I also use ZFS.
[16:01] <blackflow> because after I hit the passphrase, I get the login screen very fast, few seconds.
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: yeah thats what i need too
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: getting alot of loop devices too, and dont have many snaps installed anymore
[16:03] <blackflow> I've got only one (pycharm) aside to what comes with bionic by default
[16:03] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: https://dpaste.de/ykEk
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: https://hastebin.com/wukohoxowi.go
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: tnx lemme check
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: looks pretty neat, but you also got those loop devices
[16:04] <blackflow> oh btw mine is an incomplete list, I just copypasted the first page :)
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: did you install snaps and purged?
[16:05] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: just installe pycharm-communty, nothing else snap-wise
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[16:06] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: https://dpaste.de/QHS5
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: how much ram do you have?
[16:12] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: 8G
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: 2 gig here
[16:12] <aqd> is nvidia's proprietary driver officially supported with wayland now? I installed 18.04 but wayland was the default
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> aqd: xorg is default on 18.04
[16:14] <aqd> changing to x server is no good; high cpu use with video + gnome 3 compositor, unity8's compiz too. cpu use of compositor was higher than that of mplayer (with vdpau on)
[16:14] <aqd> hmm okay
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> aqd: latest nvidia driver seems to have better support on wayland already
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: what else could i try?
[16:15] <aqd> lotuspsychje, thx!!
[16:15] <raidghost> Why is libvirtd running on ubuntu 16.04 LTS a pain when it comes to network speed ?
[16:16] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: I'd look into stracing service that are apparently lagging. gdm is a service I think? I'm not that much at home with the GUI, I'm a server guy :)
[16:16] <raidghost> Been testing running a vm on libvirtd, Everything - networkspeed is perfect
[16:16] <blackflow> lotuspsychje: btw, have to step out for a while, bbl.
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: ok tnx anyway
[16:29] <Guest95247> nvidia already develops drivers for linux like amd and intel or not yet, and you guys depend on linux developers?
[17:03] <uselessnoob> i did it
[17:03] <uselessnoob> yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
[17:03] <uselessnoob> hell yea
[17:06] <uselessnoob> [UK] i did it. sorry i forgot ur name again lol
[17:18] <redphox> hm
[17:36] <WilliamCQ> About LTS, is there something one can install so thay don't have to update since the LTS came out?
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: what do you mean exactly?
[17:37] <WilliamCQ> which I assuming would amount to replacing > 1/4 of the original content
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: start from the beginning mate, wich ubuntu version are you on, and whats your end goal?
[17:38] <WilliamCQ> I think LTS is to be supported 5 yrs, say an LTS came out 3 yrs ago, installing the LTS that came 3 yrs ago would seemingly require a lot of updating to stay current
[17:39] <WilliamCQ> I want to install the most recent LTS, but if possible d/l a sub-version of it that had updates applied to it, so the updating process will be shorter and there will be less d/l
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: thats why there are point releases
[17:40] <CookieM> there are „point updates” to LTSes, currently 16.04.04
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: also we recommend your system to be always up to date, on every version of ubuntu
[17:40] <WilliamCQ> by point I'm assuming that,s what's after the point and that the original LTS is .00
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: its not wise, to keep a release 'old'
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: when downloading an .iso from ubuntu.com, you will get the latest release
[17:42] <WilliamCQ> I've been hammered the process of being current by Windows
[17:42] <WilliamCQ> Windows has important updates and your system will reboot in 15 mins. Skip 10 mins, 1 hr, 4 hrs.
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> WilliamCQ: thats a whole other story, that not really fit here
[17:43] <WilliamCQ> my point is I got accustomed to it by force
[17:43] <CookieM> yes, famous 'patch Tuesdays'
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> !usn | WilliamCQ why updating is important
[17:45] <CookieM> on Ubuntu, you get security updates almost every day
[17:45] <WilliamCQ> on an open system, I guess the need for security is a lot more.
[17:46] <WilliamCQ> higher*
[17:46] <nightmare_> hello everyone
[17:46] <icogon> hello
[17:46] <nightmare_> I have a question about Telegram-Cli ... does anyone have any experience using it ?
[17:47] <CookieM> linux is a lot of programs that do little the things and each program has its maintainers who issue security updates
[17:47] <BenderRodriguez> nightmare_: no
[17:47] <BenderRodriguez> does that answer your question?
[17:54] <Xard> on ubuntu 18.04: this is a minor thing but the adwaita cursor theme isn't installed by default and I can't find it from repositories either
[18:17] <ioria> Xard, have you tried adwaita-icon-theme-full  ?
[18:29] <nikki_s-00> -
[18:29] <FishPencil> Is there a way to back up a mysql database and save the copy off the server? The server storage isn't large enough to hold two copies, so running mysqldump would fill up the remaining space
[18:31] <phoenix_firebrd> FishPencil: I am not sure if this could help, but take a look at this https://sqlitebrowser.org/
[18:32] <vmeson> FishPencil: I didnt read the entire linke but: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=back+up+a+mysql+database+network -> https://serverfault.com/questions/30543/mysql-database-backup-over-network
[18:32] <phoenix_firebrd> FishPencil: Its a qt app and I use it for managing sqlite database
[18:35] <vmeson> FishPencil: does that cover what you need to do?
[18:36] <FishPencil> doesn't that assume that there are two servers?
[18:38] <WilliamCQ> I'm quite green in *nix, I'd like to create a multi-boot system on a USB stick, to put Lubuntu & Puppy on it.
[18:41] <WilliamCQ> How can I do that?
[18:42] <Guest95247> puppy's file manager doesnt show places nor disks, right?
[18:46] <WilliamCQ> I've tried http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ but I'm stuck at step #3, double-clicking it seem to load it in a text editor.
[18:46] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: you need to give the .sh file execute permission
[18:47] <vmeson> FishPencil: could be but a few of the other google hits suggested other backups that dump to a file. It seems like a common problem. Try one of them! Good luck.
[18:47] <_unreal_> sup.... I have a burned dvd that I have no idea whats on it. and it does not seem to be reading. any ideas how I could access it or what ubuntu software may attempt to access it?
[18:47] <WilliamCQ> there's already a checkmark for it
[18:47] <Guest95247> WilliamCQ, puppy's file manager doesnt show places nor disks, right?
[18:48] <WilliamCQ> dunno
[18:48] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: what does the stat command say about the file
[18:48] <_unreal_> its some kind of a DATA disk
[18:48] <WilliamCQ> I'm quite green in *nix
[18:49] <WilliamCQ> http://pastebin.com/KQReRVL6
[18:50] <WilliamCQ> @phoenix_firebrd
[18:50] <energizer> Sometimes I accidentally fill my laptop harddrive and then it freezes. Can I somehow cleverly prevent that from happening?
[18:51] <Guest95247> hey draba
[18:53] <_unreal_> google gave me the answer                     cdrskin dev=/dev/sr0 -minfo 2>/dev/null | grep '^disk status:'             "mounted it" I had to install cdrskin
[18:54] <_unreal_> OMG..... the person that made this dvd burned 2 XLS files to a dual layer DVD both files are 12k each LOL
[18:55] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: do you know how to run a executable file from terminal?
[18:56] <WilliamCQ> sadly no
[18:57] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: for example if the executable name is test.sh, you can run the executable by typing ./test.sh and press enter
[18:58] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: simply just append dot and a backslash before the filename and press enter
[18:58] <WilliamCQ> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Downloads$ ./install-depot-multisystem.sh
[18:58] <WilliamCQ>  Error: xterm
[18:59] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: only that error?
[18:59] <WilliamCQ> you mentioned ./ then backslash, which is the right?
[18:59] <WilliamCQ> yes
[18:59] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: only ./
[18:59] <WilliamCQ> can you suggest another mean to make a multiboot usb stick?
[18:59] <WilliamCQ> I got 2 ISOs
[19:00] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: do you have windows?
[19:00] <_unreal_> I love linux
[19:00] <phoenix_firebrd> me too
[19:03] <WilliamCQ> phoenix_firebrd: hopefully I'll have it soon I'm having boot loader issue
[19:04] <WilliamCQ> so I'm running this (ubuntu) live
[19:05] <ioria> WilliamCQ, do you have xterm installed ?
[19:06] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: xboot is the best application I had used to create multiboot disks. try it.
[19:07] <WilliamCQ> is it GUI?
[19:07] <WilliamCQ> ioria: using the sidebar tote then entering that both results are uninstalled
[19:07] <ioria> WilliamCQ, sudo apt install xterm and run the script again
[19:09] <WilliamCQ> ioria: http://pastebin.com/n2Wdm1Qc
[19:10] <ioria> WilliamCQ,  cat /etc/issue
[19:10] <WilliamCQ> Ubuntu 18.04 LTS \n \l
[19:10] <ioria> WilliamCQ,  sudo apt update
[19:11] <WilliamCQ> Error: xterm
[19:11] <Xard> ok, found out that the "Adwaita" mouse cursor theme doesn't have separate package and is not part of the adwaita-icon-theme package but is included in adwaita-icon-theme-full
[19:11] <ioria> don't say
[19:11] <WilliamCQ> perhaps the program is too old
[19:11] <ioria> !info xterm
[19:11] <ioria> WilliamCQ,  sudo add-apt-repository universe
[19:12] <ioria> WilliamCQ,  and sudo apt update again
[19:12] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: ya its a gui application
[19:12] <WilliamCQ> 116 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
[19:12] <WilliamCQ> Error: xterm
[19:13] <ioria> WilliamCQ,  sudo apt install xterm
[19:13] <phoenix_firebrd> WilliamCQ: as far as i know there is no working gui application to create a multiboot disk from linux, but I may be wrong
[19:13] <croberts> Gui > cli
[19:14] <WilliamCQ> wow that's a big program
[19:14] <WilliamCQ> like 40 Mb
[19:14] <croberts> We need more gui tools
[19:27] <st-gourichon-fid> Hello. On a computer that runs 16.04 very well, I installed 18.04 on another partition, with same tools and usage patterns. A number of ordinary programs crash on 18.04 only. Is this just me or a general phenomenon?
[19:28] <ioria> !detaiils
[19:28] <ioria> !details
[19:28] <st-gourichon-fid> Examples of program that crash: xrandr, disper (a python script), ptbatchergui (from hugin).
[19:29] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: do you see any error messages in the terminal?
[19:29] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, xrandr crashes ?
[19:30] <st-gourichon-fid> I saw "double free or corruption"
[19:30] <st-gourichon-fid> ioria, yes xrandr crashed. Though not always.
[19:30] <st-gourichon-fid> And with valgrind all those work. Valgrind complains of course, but the program no longer crashes.
[19:31] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: just to be clear, the 18.04 is a fresh install right?
[19:31] <st-gourichon-fid> Yes, fresh install. I always do fresh installs in order to go back and forth between old and new until everything works right.
[19:31] <st-gourichon-fid> I'm suspecting either some low-level / subtle bug in compiler used to compile 18.04 binaries, or perhaps subtle effects of spectre/meltdown mitigation?
[19:32] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: very possibly
[19:32] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: I also came across a bug like that when I had compiled vlc from source
[19:33] <st-gourichon-fid> posted /proc/cpuinfo : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y6rvkqzckx/
[19:33] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: can you debug using strace?
[19:34] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, yes
[19:34] <st-gourichon-fid> I also tried gdb this week.
[19:34] <st-gourichon-fid> One program that is easy because it crashes each time: disper. ... python script aren't expected to crash with segfault. And when they do, it's most certainly not in the scritp code.
[19:35] <st-gourichon-fid> Whenever I run "disper -d auto -e"
[19:35] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: then use this command to trace the last file accessed by any app that crash to see if thats the culprit, strace -e trace=file <executable?
[19:35] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: then use this command to trace the last file accessed by any app that crash to see if thats the culprit, strace -e trace=file <executable>
[19:35] <st-gourichon-fid> terminal says: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[19:35] <st-gourichon-fid> will do
[19:35] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, maybe we need the exact error output and the cmd that causes that
[19:36] <st-gourichon-fid> exact command is "disper -d auto -e"
[19:36] <st-gourichon-fid> exact error on terminal is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[19:37] <st-gourichon-fid> strace shows a crash after reading my .Xauthority.
[19:37] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, what is disper ?
[19:37] <ioria> ah,ok
[19:37] <st-gourichon-fid> disper is a kind of xrandr wrapper that automatically arranges screen layout
[19:37] <ioria> yeah
[19:37] <st-gourichon-fid> ubuntu crash reporter says something more precise
[19:38] <st-gourichon-fid> Segfault happened at:  0x... <XQueryExtension+45>: mov  0x968(%rdi),%rax
[19:38] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: ptbatchergui is that installed from the repositories or from a website?
[19:39] <st-gourichon-fid> I install from repository whenever possible. ptbatchergui is from official repositories.
[19:39] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: what does  ldd <executable> say?
[19:39] <st-gourichon-fid> I tried ltrace python /usr/bin/disper -d auto -e
[19:40] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: E: Unable to locate package ptbatchergui
[19:40] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: I cant find the package
[19:40] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, /usr/bin/PTBatcherGUI
[19:41] <st-gourichon-fid> package hugin
[19:41] <st-gourichon-fid> but that one is a compled program and crashed only once in dozens of invocations.  Might be a bug in the program.
[19:41] <st-gourichon-fid> Whereas disper is probably an easier target to debug.
[19:41] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: let me check
[19:42] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, apt-cache policy disper
[19:44] <st-gourichon-fid> pasted end of ltrace to https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YrrtbDV8Dz/
[19:44] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: I am getting segfault when I run python /usr/bin/disper -d auto -e
[19:44] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, cool! A repro.
[19:44] <st-gourichon-fid> apt-cache policy disper : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dZrybRSgDg/
[19:45] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: I have installed both hugin and disper packages from the repositories and tried the command
[19:45] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: does that command need root privileges?
[19:45] <st-gourichon-fid> ldd /usr/bin/PTBatcherGUI  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bg6xFm34P5/
[19:46] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: that gui applications runs normally
[19:46] <st-gourichon-fid> PTBatcherGUI is a complex program which needs photos to handle. It worked dozens of times before crashing once on 18.04, there's little probability you can have it crash easily.
[19:46] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, but it's not an ubuntu package
[19:47] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: you have no idea when that crash happens?
[19:47] <st-gourichon-fid> ioria, do you mean it's "universe"
[19:48] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: somtimes feeding corrupt files or non standard files could cause a crash
[19:48] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid,  no, i mean you installed from elsewhere source
[19:48] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, sure. I offer we disregard PTBatcherGUI for now and focus on disper.
[19:48] <ioria> yeah,better
[19:48] <st-gourichon-fid> ioria, installed using apt-get, no PPA or other source.
[19:48] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: ok
[19:49] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid,  dpkg -l | grep -i PTBatcherGUI
[19:49] <yoda-pi> what up dudes
[19:49] <st-gourichon-fid> empty answer
[19:49] <st-gourichon-fid> dpkg -l | grep -i hugin
[19:49] <st-gourichon-fid> ii  hugin                                        2018.0.0+dfsg-1                          amd64        panorama photo stitcher - GUI tools
[19:49] <st-gourichon-fid> anyway
[19:50] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid, ok
[19:50] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: can you check something for me?
[19:50] <st-gourichon-fid> Thanks to phoenix_firebrd  I see the crash on python script disper is reproducible on another machine.  This is IMHO a good step.
[19:50] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, please ask
[19:51] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: can you run the command using sudo
[19:51] <st-gourichon-fid> the disper command? ok
[19:51] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: ya
[19:51] <st-gourichon-fid> segfault also
[19:51] <st-gourichon-fid> but no core dumped
[19:51] <phoenix_firebrd> to run the command does the user needs to be in the video or display group?
[19:51] <st-gourichon-fid> strace shows it crashed a little later than without sudo
[19:52] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, no need for special group or anything. It just worked in 16.04. In 18.04 it works when under valgrind control.
[19:53] <st-gourichon-fid> This always crashes : disper -d auto -e
[19:53] <st-gourichon-fid> This always works : valgrind disper -d auto -e
[19:53] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid,  no idea, i'd say something graphic driver related
[19:55] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebird, since you also saw the crash on disper, what's your display hardware?
[19:56] <st-gourichon-fid> also, can anyone else try this: install disper package and run disper -d auto -e
[19:58] <ioria> st-gourichon-fid,  no output
[19:58] <Kartagis> hi
[19:59] <Kartagis> is LABEL=swap      /var/swap.img   none    swap sw 0 0 good for /etc/fstab?
[19:59] <Kartagis> the guide didn't mention a LABEL, so...
[20:00] <syb0rg> yeah you don't want that LABEL=swap entry
[20:00] <syb0rg> everything else looks good
[20:01] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: intel hd graphics 630
[20:01] <syb0rg> assuming you have a swap file at /var/swap.img
[20:01] <syb0rg> Kartagis ^
[20:01] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: when you run xrandr what do you see
[20:02] <jemesi> hi
[20:02] <EriC^^> jemesi: hi
[20:08] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, xrandr alone works at the moment.
[20:09] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, my laptop has an integrated Intel GPU plus a GeForce GTX GPU, the so-called "optimus" hardware arrangement.
[20:11] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: ok
[20:12] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1577523
[20:13] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: could be that?
[20:16]  * st-gourichon-fid reads https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1577523
[20:17] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, disper -l crashes also.
[20:17] <st-gourichon-fid> Should I open a bug on launchpad with reference to that redhat bug?
[20:18] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: give me few mins, I am trying to see if thats the one
[20:20] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, interesting. How do you plan to check that?
[20:22] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: use gdb to see if it crashes on the same function XQueryExtension
[20:22] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: I have to take a break, I will be back in 20 mins
[20:23] <syb0rg> So I am trying to install libvncserver1 on 16.04, but apt says: "Package libvncserver1 is not available, but is referred to by another package." However it appears to be in the xenial repo, as I found this page: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libvncserver1
[20:23] <syb0rg> any ideas?
[20:26] <st-gourichon-fid> phoenix_firebrd, yes crash in XQueryExtension
[20:26] <st-gourichon-fid> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4VVFg4d8Y3/
[20:28] <tomreyn> syb0rg: did you apt update before you tried installing it?
[20:28] <syb0rg> yep tomreyn
[20:29] <syb0rg> and here is the sources.list https://pastebin.com/CzL1xbPp
[20:29] <tomreyn> syb0rg: please show the output oitpuf of these commands: cat /proc/version; lsb_release -ds; apt update; apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libvncserver1
[20:29] <syb0rg> ok
[20:30] <tomreyn> syb0rg: actually, you disabled "main", that's not going to work.
[20:30] <Bashing-om> syb0rg: tomreyn :: https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libvncserver1 says it is there in the repo .
[20:30] <syb0rg> ok cool, no clue how that could have happened
[20:31] <tomreyn> syb0rg: not by itself, usually ;)
[20:31] <syb0rg> heh, indeed. I don't even recall messing with the sources.list on this particular machine though
[20:32] <syb0rg> so do I just uncomment the first line?
[20:32] <syb0rg> any other weirdnes in there that should be addressed?
[20:32] <syb0rg> *weirdness
[20:36] <tomreyn> !sources | syb0rg
[20:37] <syb0rg> ok, thanks tomreyn
[20:42] <zaiste> in Bionic, how can I set Ruby 2.5 to be default when executed with `ruby` ?
[20:42] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid:  ya seems that the bug causing the crash
[20:42] <Bashing-om> syb0rg: My working example of a stripped down/compacted  sources.list file; where in this install I have no need of any src code.
[20:43] <Bashing-om> http://termbin.com/p4gq .
[20:43] <phoenix_firebrd> st-gourichon-fid: but you need to install the debugging symbols then get the proper backtrace to file a bug report
[20:44] <syb0rg> ok, thanks Bashing-om, that's helpful
[20:49] <Danawar[UK]> Hi Ubuntu i am having issues running 2 programs after an update this morning if any one could help it would be greatly appreciated. https://pastebin.com/c4JiUEBB
[20:50] <Bashing-om> syb0rg: :) As you can see there .. this is a cosmic release and my mirror is - steadfast.net - in Chicago USA . Change to suite your own needs .
[20:50] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: I think you have some driver issues
[20:51] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: I mean display driver
[20:51] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I am using proprietary drivers (I think that is what they are called.)
[20:51] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: The ones that came with ubuntu
[20:51] <syb0rg> indubitably, Bashing-om
[20:52] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: can you uninstall and reinstall the graphics drivers and see if that solves the issue, also dont forget to restart your system after reinstalling the graphics driver
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Danawar[UK]: 18.04 AND the wayland desktop ?
[20:52] <Danawar[UK]> Bashing-om: Tried x11 and wayland
[20:54] <Bashing-om> Danawar[UK]: in wayland nvida continues to work at it .. in wayland need to be able to use the newest 396 driver .
[20:55] <Danawar[UK]> Bashing-om: I dont think i have an nvidia drvier -  product: Cape Verde XT [Radeon HD 7770/8760 / R7 250X]
[20:56] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]:  "cannot open display: :0", you usually get that message when you have issues with your graphics driver
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Danawar[UK]: Yup .. AMD ... they provide the driver now in the kernel .
[20:56] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: can you see if mir is running?
[20:56] <Danawar[UK]> Bashing-om: Yes it was working before but must not be working properly now! :(
[20:57] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I dont know what mir is cannot find it in ps aux.
[20:57] <phoenix_firebrd> !mid | Danawar[UK]
[20:57] <phoenix_firebrd> !mir | Danawar[UK]
[20:58] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: spotify seems to depend on mir
[20:58] <Danawar[UK]> On wiki "however the plan changed and Wayland was adopted."
[20:58] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I am currently using Wayland
[20:59] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: I am sorry I think flare depends on it
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Danawar[UK]: I am not up2date with 18.04 graphics .. a lot has changed; but, we can poke at it and see what we can learn . pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' to see if drivers are loaded .
[20:59] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: Spotify worked yesterday.
[21:00] <Danawar[UK]> Bashing-om: https://pastebin.com/65eufYZ5
[21:00] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: did you by any chance run the apps using root permission?
[21:00] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: No
[21:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: you are using spotify snap right?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Danawar[UK]: Driver is loaded, so much for that thought .
[21:02] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: Both are snap
[21:02] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: can you try spotify from a beta channel?
[21:03] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: How do i do this?
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: Just now installed the spotify snap and spotify starts without issue
[21:05] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: but I dont have an account so I cant test further
[21:05] <OpenSorce> This maybe a #hardware question but... I just shoved Lubuntu down this old HP laptop/tablets throat. I can twist and fold the screen down but when I put it back into a laptop configuration the keyboard isn't working.
[21:05] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: Yes i dont think the problem is with spotify or your computer it think myn is the problem :P
[21:05] <SporkWitch> oh look, the matrix bots...
[21:06] <OpenSorce> Why do the bots have to flood in and hide my question like that?!?
[21:07] <SporkWitch> OpenSorce: think you need a udev rule to toggle that in both directions; sounds like it's only toggling it off, not back on
[21:08] <usbehci> Hello all, I have one question. Dropbox icon does seem ugly at status bar next to volume, wifi, and power icons
[21:08] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, cool I'll look that up!
[21:08] <SporkWitch> that's not a question
[21:08] <usbehci> How can I embed dropbox icon between those?
[21:09] <SporkWitch> OpenSorce: you might also look for that model specifically, as different two-in-one devices handle things differently
[21:09] <usbehci> Or how should I search on internet to solve my problem?
[21:09] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: Is there a way you can test if the graphics driver are ok?
[21:09] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, kk thanks again
[21:10] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: Plot twist uninstalling spotify and reinstalling fixed the issue
[21:10] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: however i don't want to uninstall flarerpg as i will lose game data :(. This also seems like a very hacky fix.
[21:11] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I have no idea how to test if the drivers are ok (Other programs work)
[21:11] <phoenix_firebrd> usbehci: you can find where the dropbox icon is and replace it with a good one
[21:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: oh
[21:11] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: is there a way to backup the game data?
[21:12] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I am in thier channel now so im sure they will advise but i wish snaps were more robust :(
[21:12] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: ya, its a work in progress
[21:12] <usbehci> Should give it a try
[21:12] <yinye> hello
[21:12] <phoenix_firebrd> usbehci: how did you install dropbox
[21:13] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: hello
[21:13] <usbehci> from .deb file
[21:13] <usbehci> downloaded via their website
[21:13] <Guest5303> dark  web
[21:14] <usbehci> by the way, I use communitheme under 18.04,
[21:14] <phoenix_firebrd> usbehci: can you give me the link to the .deb file
[21:15] <usbehci> https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_2015.10.28_amd64.deb
[21:16] <monkers> I've installed ubuntu server 16.04 on an Intel NUC along with plex media server.  Plex Media server is causing segfaults in the kern.log and also i see running 'lsb_release -a' causes 'Segmentation fault' (core dumped).  This is a fresh isntall of image ubuntu-16.04.4-server-amd64.iso.  Any ideas whats going on or how i can troubleshoot this? Hardware problem?
[21:18] <phoenix_firebrd> usbehci: the icons are in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/<size>x<size>/apps/dropbox.png, replace those with the ones you desire and you will get the desired dropbox icon in the systemtray
[21:18] <usbehci> ok lets give it a try
[21:19] <yinye> phoenix_firebrd::hi
[21:21] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: Reinstall of flare-rpg worked also could be a bug with snappy and opengl or somthing
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: your game data?
[21:22] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: I moved /home/daniel/snap/flare-rpg/current/.local/share/flare/saves/empyrean to my desktop and ill move it back
[21:22] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[21:22] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: but have a copy of that too
[21:24] <Danawar[UK]> phoenix_firebrd: All good it loaded perfectly.
[21:24] <phoenix_firebrd> Danawar[UK]: nice
[21:24] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: you need help?
[21:24] <OpenSorce> Well, it seems udev is telling the keyboard to come back on but it isn't. I tried it with a virtual keyboard (xinput enable '<device name>') no luck
[21:24] <OpenSorce> Only comes back when I reboot.
[21:25] <SporkWitch> OpenSorce: what makes you think it's telling it to turn back on?  Keep in mind that udev rules need to be reloaded if changed
[21:25] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: new to linux?
[21:26] <yinye> phoenix_firebrd:: yes i am
[21:26] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: welcome
[21:26] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: do you need any help?
[21:26] <SporkWitch> TempleOS > all ^_-
[21:26] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, well I need to verify it but from what I've read the command it would issue to re-enable it would be the xinput one.
[21:27] <SporkWitch> OpenSorce: you said udev was sending it, if you changed anything, make sure to restart to make sure it uses the changes (there's commands to reload udev without a reboot, but i can't remember them off the top of my head)
[21:27] <yinye> phoenix_firebrd::thank you. Please, can you advise on materials that coud help me with the learning process.
[21:27] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, yeah I need to find the udev conf files and make sure
[21:28] <SporkWitch> yinye: open a terminal, type "man man"; also, search engines are your friend
[21:28] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: just ubuntu or linux?
[21:28] <OpenSorce> man man... hawt
[21:28] <OpenSorce> Sorry, brb reading
[21:28] <SporkWitch> OpenSorce: it's the manual page for the manual system :)
[21:29] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, I know :-)
[21:29] <yinye> SporkWitch:: thank you
[21:29] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/index.html
[21:30] <yinye> phoenix_firebrd::both
[21:30] <SporkWitch> yinye: np.  For broad questions, a search engine is your best first stop; if it's specific to a program, check the manpage first.  If you have _specific_ questions, and you're not finding any clear answered when you search, ask here, and be detailed :)
[21:31] <OpenSorce> SporkWitch, well I'm wrong. There appears to be very little in /etc/udev
[21:32] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.11/index.html
[21:32] <OpenSorce> If udev was handling that it would be in udev.conf rules.d or hwdb.d right?
[21:32] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: thats for linux
[21:33] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: you can auto complete a nick name here by using the tab key
[21:34] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: when you want to speak anything other than ubuntu you can use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[21:36] <yinye> phoenix_firebrd, :) thanks
[21:36] <phoenix_firebrd> yinye: you are welcome
[21:59] <pi__> hello?
[22:00] <FMan> lol
[22:02] <pikapika> Does anyone here uses firefox? Is it true they removed the refresh/stop button?
[22:09] <benergy> Hey guys... I've just installed Ubuntu 18.04, and my document viewer (evince, I guess) does not show a GUI. I realize this was a discussed bug - do you know any way to fix this? Thanks!
[22:13] <pnwise> Is it there /etc/rc.local if you install with btrfs?
[22:15] <pnwise> ohh systemd
[22:35] <ZenA> ZenA
[22:37] <OpenSorce> Gotta share this because it actually works... It's an online tool to create and install a custom splash screen. https://github.com/raph-ael/plymouth-generator
[22:37] <OpenSorce> https://plymouth-generator.geldfrei.net/
[22:37] <OpenSorce> It's the second one. The first is the github code.
[22:39] <ZenA> Désoléé, je suis mode #giga  "c'eest réaiste"
[22:40] <ZenA> en frait
[22:40] <ZenA> en vrai
[22:42] <ZenA> la realité
[22:43] <ZenA> piuissanvr soixante puissiatnte 25
[22:49] <johnny> hi
[22:49] <Guest95277> help
[22:50] <Guest95277> allchan
[23:47] <e291> how do i copy i file in roots folders
[23:47] <e291> i'm in kde
[23:47] <e291> using dolphin
[23:48] <oerheks> you need to be root, but Executing Dolphin as root is not possible.
[23:50] <e291> so you have to use the terminal?
[23:50] <oerheks> well, there seems to be an option to enable that again ... https://forums.mauilinux.org/showthread.php?tid=24251
[23:51] <e291> i'm copyng a plugin in a software folder
[23:51] <oerheks> so you really need a reason to do so
[23:51] <e291> this shoun't take more then 10 second
[23:51] <e291> why is it so hard to copy a file
[23:56] <e291> what a waste of time