[18:30] <martinMALI> hallo
[18:30] <dampfyente> thank you bazhang.. could u also help me with my other problem?
[18:30] <marx2k> VeNoM-work yes
[18:30] <dampfyente> oh sry
[18:30] <dampfyente> 	hi everyone, could u please help me? i want to play the phun-game (check out http://youtube.com/watch?v=0H5g9VS0ENM) and the README sais You need to get libSDL. Also, try to run the program like this: "LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./phun" ..... i have libsdl-image1.2 and libsdl1.2debian installed, is this enough? i tried to execute the above command in a konsole (using correct path) but nothing happened.. btw i'm ubuntu-n00b, using it for 3
[18:30] <eatatjoes> cya
[18:31] <Cew27> credible: ok but im still getting the glitch wehere it jerks
[18:31] <Belisarivs> hi all
[18:31] <dampfyente> there it is bazhang
[18:31] <martinMALI> oh
[18:31] <Belisarivs> do you also have problem with KDE4 from ppa?
[18:31] <credible> Cew27: does it happen when moving both left and right?
[18:31] <marx2k> VeNoM-work "sudo /path/to/file.sh"
[18:31] <VeNoM-work> thanks marx2k, dampfyente.
[18:31] <hanophix33> can someone get amarok to be default player?
[18:32] <VeNoM-work> how do I know the exact path? where do I start from? say I put the file on my desktop?
[18:32] <rambo3> VeNoM-work,  ~/
[18:32] <hischild> bazhang, you seen anything that might've help?
[18:32] <rambo3> Desktop/file
[18:32] <VeNoM-work> ~ = root?
[18:32] <rambo3> user folder
[18:32] <VeNoM-work> ah.
[18:33] <hanophix33> how about to Install libxine-extracodecs
[18:33] <bazhang> hischild hang on a sec
[18:33] <hischild> bazhang, i aint goin nowhere =)
[18:34] <frank_> dampfyente: did you try without LD_PRELOAD?
[18:34] <dampfyente> frank_ should i?
[18:35] <frank_> dampfyente: yeah. it worked for me
[18:35] <cjae> ok I installed samba and swat and neither of them will launch
[18:35] <bazhang> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705996 dampfyente there you go
[18:36] <Linux_Fresher> <-- better nick =)
[18:36] <dampfyente> thanks bazhang, ill read it
[18:36] <Linux_Fresher> bazhang:  very much impressed till now after 1 hour of Live CD .. I think there is no more need to check out linux mint i guess .. it would be almost the same right ?
[18:38] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, the same as what?
[18:38] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  umm almost same like ubuntu linux i guess
[18:38] <rinaldi_> if i want to use vnc to access my computer over the internet, is it necessary to use ssh or is the vnc security enough
[18:38] <[FT]Alex> does anyone have a straightforward howto for connecting ubuntu to windows workgroups?
[18:38] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, its the same as in its Unix-like :P
[18:39] <HighNo> rinaldi_: vnc is no security (no encrytion at all)
[18:39] <Bigg400> what is the best solution without running dual boot WMCE to get my xbox 360 media center happening? I'm using 64 bit gutsy
[18:39] <rinaldi_> HighNo: i see so all i have is the password right?
[18:39] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  also, i am trying to drop thinking in windows mentality, but still i have some Qs.. I know what system, system32 etc directories in windows are used for, similarly, what are the important system directories in linux? like bin, etc  such and what are they used for .. or rather, where can i read such info ?
[18:39] <fus10nx> Anyone here use an HDMI graphics card in Linux (Ubuntu) ?
[18:40] <NinjaPlimsoles> !hierarchy | Linux_Fresher
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hierarchy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:40] <Emilian> hi, where can I go to learn about setting memory limits for users? if that it is possible
[18:40] <NinjaPlimsoles> aw poo
[18:40] <cjae> must you have root account to run swat or not
[18:40] <HighNo> rinaldi_: yes, but it's not very secure and vnc happended to have bad bugs regarding security in the past. Passwordhash is passed over the net...
[18:40] <cjae> sudo swat no good
[18:40] <bazhang> hischild: what about this: dmesg | grep -i cpu
[18:40] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  you stumped ubotu !!
[18:41] <HighNo> rinaldi_: toys like cain do crack the password if traffic is captured...
[18:41] <rambo3> Linux_Fresher, just use google directory structure ubuntu
[18:41] <Linux_Fresher> rambo3:  roger that
[18:41] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, well if you want to look at the hierarchy, heres a link http://jamesthornton.com/linux/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/ other than that, in windows drivers are stored in system and system32... in linux ALL drivers (in a monolithic layoutl) are inside the kernel
[18:41] <rinaldi_> HighNo: so you'd recomment ssh? its just that i can't work out how to do X forwarding with it
[18:42] <HighNo> rinaldi_: it always depends on what you want to do with it - but yes, in all my szenarios ssh is involved
[18:42] <NinjaPlimsoles> going with the regular south african spellage, is ubotu: oobotoo?
[18:42] <velovinx> guys, if I connect to freenode twice using the same ip, what will happen?
[18:42] <HighNo> rinaldi_: please explain what you want to do and I can make a suggestion
[18:43] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  also, i have some games installed in windows xp, now, if i give 5 gbs to ubuntu, do i have to reinstall the games through wine or i can directly start an installed game ?
[18:43] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:   the only thing which would stop me from total ubuntu conversion is games =/
[18:43] <rinaldi_> HighNo: well i want to be able to access my desktop from windows and run apps from there
[18:43] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, you would need to set Wine up to use the correct directories and so on
[18:43] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, also remember not all games/apps are compatible with Wine
[18:44] <cjae> is there no need for samba on gusty?
[18:44] <hdevalence> is there a program like top but for hdd use?
[18:44] <cjae> !samba
[18:44] <ubotu> Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[18:44] <hischild> bazhang, let me check
[18:44] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  ya .. someone here gave me a GOD website which lists all the appz n gamez which currently run in wine .. satisfies me .. guild war, wow , warhammer, counterstrike .. what I wish for is there !!
[18:44] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher: if you're wondering about program X, you can see the wine app db
[18:45] <HighNo> rinaldi_: do you need to access a running desktop or is that not needed? also good to know - what system are you running at work?
[18:45] <Linux_Fresher> hdevalence:  yeah thats the one =)
[18:45] <HighNo> rinaldi_: doh
[18:45] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher:  http://appdb.winehq.org/
[18:45] <hischild> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/f2200e087 =)
[18:45]  * NinjaPlimsoles is currently porting Linux to a dual-stack quad-loading Brevel sandwitch toaster
[18:46] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:   okies, right now before this installation goes to my HD, gimmi some newbie basic exercise kinda thingy on this Live CD so that I know how to float a bit in linux sea
[18:46] <HighNo> rinaldi_: just read the windows part of your post... ok, still it depends. it is less intrusive on the windows machine to use ssh/vnc to connect to a running desktop session at home...
[18:46] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, what would you like to know?
[18:47] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  umm basically windows was easy to use because i was really good at all dos commands .. so i knew what was happening behind the screen .. may be something similar for linux?
[18:47] <HighNo> rinaldi_: is your home machine directly connected to the net or is it connected to a router that is going online?
[18:47] <allos_nerelin> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58655/ help!!!
[18:47] <rinaldi_> HighNo:  its going through a router
[18:47] <tonarp> is there one way to obtain more visited web pages using squid/access.log ?
[18:47] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, dir/p = ls
[18:47] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What does it mean "to host testing" as in "Intel hosted EHCI conformance testing"? (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OHCI)
[18:47] <HighNo> rinaldi_: ok, so you already have configured the router to route incoming ssh traffic (port 22) to your machine?
[18:48] <frank_> allos_nerelin: install build-essentials
[18:48] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, using the command 'grep' you can search for things and pipe output to it, for example 'dmesg | grep bum'
[18:48] <frank_> allos_nerelin: umm install build-essential
[18:48] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles: umm .. grep burn is something like find burn .. but what dmesg stands for ?
[18:48] <rinaldi_> HighNo: no not yet, the only time i use ssh is over the internal network anyway, but i can do it now
[18:48] <prashant> how to safely remove hardware
[18:49] <myth_one_love_72>  vcxc
[18:49] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, dmesg prints out the kernel ringbuffer, basically anything in kernelspace thats spoken to the kernel directly gets logged
[18:49] <prashant> how to safely remove hardware
[18:49] <Karsyth> :-!
[18:49] <brobostigon> prashant: be more specific, what hardware??
[18:49] <prashant> usb
[18:50] <prashant> pen drive
[18:50] <HighNo> rinaldi_: you should do so to make your home machine be available from the outside. Also a machanism to find your machine from work would be great.You can use something like dyndns.org or just write down your ip and hope it won't change...
[18:50] <brobostigon> prashant: umount /dev/***
[18:50] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher: also, there are a *lot* of indepth guides and howtos at http://tldp.org/  if that would interest you
[18:50] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  ok i will meditate on that !! xD .. looks like lots of reading is coming my way !! just 1 above line  for me is 3 topics !! kernel, kernel space , ring buffer !! and why not dmesg !! xD
[18:50] <NinjaPlimsoles> prashant, right click > eject/unmount/remove/destroy/nuke or umount /dev/blabla
[18:50] <HighNo> rinaldi_: next thing is to activate the buildin vnc server on your ubuntu box
[18:50] <brobostigon> prashant: or, umount /mountpoint
[18:51] <Linux_Fresher> hdevalence:  yes, i have 3 very bad exp in past with Mandrake linux .. may be because i was trying to think in windows mind set .. this time i am giving linux a try with no hangups .. as if this is the first OS of my life kinda thingy .. should work that way this time
[18:51] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, get reading matey :)
[18:52] <frank_> Linux_Fresher: I've been using ubuntu for 2 years and don't know what the kernel ringbuffer.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/  has lots of info
[18:52] <rinaldi_> HighNo: im running a netgear router, i have selected the inbound service as ssh. is the LAN server just my ubuntu pc's ip?
[18:52] <prashant> how to safely remove pendrive
[18:52] <HighNo> rinaldi_: I think it should
[18:52] <prashant> how to safely remove pendrive
[18:52] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles: i tried that and it still automatically booted into windows
[18:52] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, ok mate one second
[18:52] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher: the bash shell is discussed here http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[18:52] <brobostigon> prashant: i told you.
[18:53] <prashant> plz again
[18:53] <fus10nx> Anyone here use an HDMI graphics card in Linux (Ubuntu) ?
[18:53] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, try this instead: 'sudo grub' then 'find /boot/grub/stage1' and then 'root (hd?,?)' the question marks are what were found with find stage1. then type 'setup (hd0)' and finally 'quit'
[18:53] <Linux_Fresher> hdevalence:  basically so bash and kernel are 2 different things?  may be by bash it means the Terminal ?
[18:53] <bazhang> hischild some in the forums have suggested checking the bios to see if amd cool n quiet is set and if so to disable it; others suggest add the kernel option "acpi=off" to menu.lst.
[18:53] <HighNo> rinaldi_: ok, it works
[18:53] <prashant> \idont understand
[18:53] <brobostigon> prashant: umount /mountpoint
[18:53] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, by Bash it means BourneAgainShell, which is a terminal emulator
[18:53] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher: bash is command promt, like the dos shell
[18:53] <HighNo> rinaldi_: for your windows machine you need putty and vnc
[18:53] <prashant> where unmount
[18:54] <Linux_Fresher> hdevalence:  cool !!
[18:54] <hischild> bazhang, hmm ... i'll check those out ...
[18:54] <quarsaw> anyone know of a command line tool to monitor internal temperatures and/or fan speeds
[18:54] <hischild> bazhang, i got a pug to play :-) i'll report back in an hour .. .tnx!
[18:54] <bloody`> hey guys. im running xubuntu, newest version, and it randomly freezes on me, to the point i need to hard reboot my laptop :(. does it both in xubuntu and regular ubuntu, seperate installs.
[18:54] <Karsyth> could anyone link me to the resolution fix?
[18:54] <prashant> brobos.......tell in brief
[18:54] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554890&page=5 hischild from this thread
[18:54] <bazhang> prashant scroll up
[18:54] <rinaldi_> HighNo:  ok done that, what vnc server do i install?
[18:54] <hdevalence> Linux_Fresher: the kernel is the lowest level, it communicates with the hardware, and you'll never really interact with it directly
[18:55] <brobostigon> prashant: run df -h in terminal, then find mountpoint of the drive, and then type umount /mountpoint, replacing mountpoint with the moiuntpoint of the drive
[18:55] <HighNo> rinaldi_: no vncserver - just the vncviewer
[18:55] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, the Kernel is what processes I/O signals from hardware and drivers, even windows has one :P
[18:55] <tuxut> hello
[18:55] <zarvox> hello
[18:55] <Karsyth> does anyone know why i cant set my resolution past 800 X 600?
[18:55] <brobostigon> prashant: put sudo infront of those commands
[18:55] <prashant> kkkkkkkk
[18:55] <quarsaw> Karsyth: I have hte same prob
[18:55] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  this is what i did: console, then i typed sudo grub, then find /boot/grub/stage1 then it said hd(1,5) so i typed root (hd 1,5), then i did setup (hd1,5) then quit and restarted and it started to boot into windows
[18:56] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  yeah and one can crash windows kernel on the fly too !! xD
[18:56] <prashant> kkkkkkkkkkk
[18:56] <tuxut> i need an ldap guru :)
[18:56] <tuxut> anyone here?
[18:56] <hdevalence> except with Alt+SysReq+[emergency key] you can send it messages http://www.developertutorials.com/tutorials/linux/magic-sysrq-050503/page1.html but that's really only for emergencies
[18:56] <eatatjoes> so should i have typed "setup (hd0)" instead of setup (hd 1,5)?
[18:56] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, sorry, setup (hd0)
[18:56] <rinaldi_> HighNo:  i have a windows pc with me at home, so i install putty and a vnc viewer on there right?
[18:56] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, you just set grub to install to your linux partition, not your MBR :P
[18:56] <eatatjoes> haha okay
[18:56] <zarvox> anyone know how to disable the lcd light adjustement ?
[18:56] <eatatjoes> so hd0 is mbr?
[18:56] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, hd0 is your primary hard disk
[18:57] <zarvox> i hope u anderstand :(
[18:57] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  oh btw 1. what happens if i forget to unmount the ISO image which I mounted 2. and i reboot the system
[18:57] <eatatjoes> ohk
[18:57] <demonspork> how do I mount a folder on a web server in a local folder on my ubuntu system?
[18:57] <allos_nerelin>
[18:57] <allos_nerelin> Someone knows that this is wrong?: Configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $ PATH
[18:57] <CroGo> hello
[18:57] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, there are exeptions :P like the NT kernel is a microkernel, which means I/O drivers are OUTSIDE of its main code
[18:57] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  reboot the system without unmounting that iso file i mean
[18:57] <MTecknology> Anybody have any idea how to fix this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58657/
[18:58] <quarsaw> demonspork: are you running apache?
[18:58] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_fresher, it will remain mounted when you log in? lol
[18:58] <HighNo> rinaldi_: you can do that for training the real thing, yes
[18:58] <CroGo> ?
[18:58] <CroGo> ?
[18:58] <hdevalence> NinjaPlimsoles: didn't tanenbaum have a rant about how nt was not a true microkernel?
[18:58] <hanophix33> how do you use theme engines?
[18:58] <nocturn> Hi guys
[18:58] <NinjaPlimsoles> hdevalence, lol not sure
[18:58] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  oh someone said dont forget to unmount it .. so basically it occupies some temp space on HD or ram kinda thingy ?
[18:58] <nocturn> I was wondering if there are pre-built Xen kernels for Ubuntu (Hardy)
[18:58] <demonspork> quarsaw, the web server is running IIS, but I would like to mount a folder from that server locally on my Ubuntu system
[18:59] <macafe> Hi, anyone has a link of article of Daniel **** of Ubuntu community about good ways to reply message(email)?
[18:59] <mon^rch> I have a trojen... help please
[18:59] <rinaldi_> HighNo:  so can you point me in the right direction from here?
[18:59] <frank_> MTecknology: you need to install evolution-dev   maybe other things too idk
[19:00] <MTecknology> frank_, that, and others are installed
[19:00] <NinjaPlimsoles> linux_freshner, indeedy :)
[19:00] <HighNo> rinaldi_: sure, after installing you need to do two things (we will do them together now) 1. setup an ssh tunnel, 2. use the tunnel for vnc traffic
[19:00] <quarsaw> demonspork: oh I see, I don' tknow how to do that, I've recently done the opposite, serving a folder with apache
[19:00] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  btw today when i launched ubuntu, it didnt even ask me for my gateway ip .. it directly talked to my router and enabled internet .. i was so happily freaked out lol :)
[19:00] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, well it doesnt occupy any MORE space, it just mounts it for vfs access
[19:00] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  so thats HD space or Ram space ?
[19:00] <rinaldi_> HighNo: ok thanks for this, although i only have about half an hour
[19:01] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:   i hope vfs is virtual file system may be ?
[19:01] <frank_> MTecknology: and libtool?
[19:01] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, the iso is on your hard drive? :P and yes ALL volumes in Linux are virtual, you can boot and then change your root partition adhoc
[19:01] <MTecknology> frank_, just installed it and it got futher
[19:01] <MTecknology> further*
[19:02] <HighNo> rinaldi_: for 1. you start putty, enter your ubuntu's ip, switch it to ssh version 2. then on the left side click on ssh, tunnels and enter the following: source port = 5901, destination= localhost:5900
[19:02] <MTecknology> frank_, I'm installing intltool now too
[19:02] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  yup iso is on my HD .. i am a bit panicy to install linux just yet on HD coz of my old burnt fingers =)
[19:02] <HighNo> rinaldi_: go back to the session, give it a name and save it so you don't need to reenter those values again
[19:03] <NinjaPlimsoles> linux_fresher, well the #ubuntu doors are always open, start by dual-booting with windows for a bit till you get used to it
[19:03] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  actually i was more worried yesterday coz ubuntu.com should mention that its a live cd version which they dont .. thats something that should be there on their FIRST page !!
[19:03] <drK_avNgr> Hello, I am having issues adjusting the brightness of my laptop screen. I have scoured the ubuntu forums for answers but keep coming up with nothing that produces a result. I'm on a Sony Vaio VGN-FS550. Intel 915GM video card. Anyone have any ideas?
[19:03] <HighNo> rinaldi_: then click on open, login to your ubuntu box with any valid account to complete step 1
[19:03] <zoki_> test
[19:03] <lydgate> anyone have any experince with mdadm RAID10 (-l 10, not 0 on 1)
[19:04]  * NinjaPlimsoles likes to get drunk and compile linux kernels in the dark
[19:04] <cjae> ok I need help, what do i need for a ubuntu machine to talk to a MS windows machine over WAN
[19:05] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  lol i am a sailor.. so brb getting a drink !! u reminded me of it !! now YOU are responsible for those few liver cells going bye bye !! B)
[19:05] <HighNo> rinaldi_: step 2 is very easy: leave the ssh session open, don't enter any commands for the tunnel is open until the session quits. simply start the vncviewer and enter this to connect to: localhost:1 - you should now enter the vnc password of your ubuntu box, that's it.
[19:06] <rinaldi_> HighNo: when i do "open" in putty i get a security warning, is that normal?
[19:06] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, if i had some morgans id be gleefully shouting 'I'm sailing with the captain!' but alas, i have no rum :(
[19:06] <HighNo> rinaldi_: yes, if you connect for the first time. that's a ssh security mechanism.
[19:06] <MTecknology> I'm up to this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58658/
[19:06] <MTecknology> frank_, ^^
[19:07] <cjae> ok I need help, what do i need for a ubuntu machine to talk to a MS windows machine over WAN
[19:07] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  omg !! thats one thing which one should NEVER run out of !! RuM!!
[19:07] <Brakkvatn> Hello. Does anyone here use epiphany webbrowser?
[19:07] <frank_> MTecknology: you said evolution-dev was installed?
[19:08] <MTecknology> frank_, ya
[19:08] <NinjaPlimsoles> linux_fresher, need any other info about linux?
[19:08]  * NinjaPlimsoles has a painful wisdom tooth
[19:09] <rinaldi_> HighNo: ok, the ssh worked ok in putty, now i launch the vnc viewer.exe and enter "localhost:1" in the server box. i get "the connection was closed unexpectedly"
[19:09] <[FT]Alex> maybe it's infected, ninjaplimsoles
[19:09] <NinjaPlimsoles> [FT]Alex, its just breaking the gum..... WITH DYNAMITE
[19:09] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles: and a way to get back into serious linux channel too !! yup .. website says 2 GB minimum .. but this channel said 10 gb minimum .. so ..
[19:09] <MTecknology> frank_, I'm going to head to class, but I'll be back on in a few minutes
[19:09] <komputes> I know this question is out-there: burning CD from the shell? Who knows a program which does this?
[19:09] <frank_> MTecknology: I don't know what else to do...
[19:10] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, for ubuntu installation/
[19:10] <HighNo> rinaldi_: in most cases that means your vncserver is not running as expected. Leave the ssh open and start the vncviewer and try to connect directly to your ubuntu box's ip:0
[19:10] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  roger that
[19:10] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, anything upward of 3 gig would suffice really
[19:10] <frank_> komputes: cdrdao  but I've never used it
[19:10] <rinaldi_> HighNo: i get "connection refused"
[19:10] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  there is that first sweet icon which says INSTALL just waiting to be clicked  =) .. can i install it on any partition or it has to be primary master HD ?
[19:11] <NinjaPlimsoles> linux_fresher, any :)
[19:12] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  hmm ok .. i think i will take a break now , this ubuntu thing seems wayyy too good to be true ..  these has to be some pitfall which is eluding me :-(
[19:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, get this.... you can even boot Linux REMOTELY... the install doesnt even need to be in your machine! :D
[19:12] <HighNo> rinaldi_: ok, did you start the vnc server on ubuntu? you'll find it in settings->remote desktop. Set both of the upper options, and the last one and anter a proper password
[19:12] <HighNo> rinaldi_: afterwards retry the direct vnc connection
[19:12] <komputes> thanks frank_
[19:12] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  aha !! i aint falling for that one :D
[19:12] <frank_> komputes: np
[19:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, ?!
[19:13] <Linux_Fresher> NinjaPlimsoles:  that remote install thingy u said lol
[19:13] <frank_> Linux_Fresher: NinjaPlimsoles wasn't joking ;-)
[19:13] <webnix> when i go to mount a ISO what would the mountpoint be?
[19:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> Linux_Fresher, its whats known as an 'exotic root' you can do a network boot to a machine that has it installed via a good old bit of cat5
[19:14] <Linux_Fresher>  Okies  >>>> p-0-p <<<<  gone !!  2morrow !!
[19:14] <teo_> why i can't enable desktop effect?? it says desktop effects could not been enabled :S?
[19:14] <zdux00tv> Hi, I have a new laptop (cloudbook) I'd like to install ubuntu on it, but it doesn't have a CD rom. How can I get this OS on to it?
[19:14] <rinaldi_> HighNo: ok the direct one worked fine.
[19:14] <[FT]Alex> teo - you probably don't have direct rendering enabled. I was having that problem yesterday :)
[19:15] <NinjaPlimsoles> frank_, maybe he thought it was too good to be true? ;)
[19:15] <quarsaw> teo_: you may need to install a propritary driver
[19:15] <ThRixXx> can sum1 help me please.
[19:15] <s0u][ight> hello guys i have a question about the bot of the channel
[19:15] <ThRixXx> Need to print task
[19:15] <JC_Denton_> Does apt maintain some sort of todo list? currently it's broken because it keeps crashing on trying to remove mono dependant packages. Maybe I can remove the removal jobs from that list
[19:15] <aghachi> iphone
[19:15] <rinaldi_> HighNo: and the localhost:1 worked too!
[19:15] <ThRixXx> I can't print, the printer is picked up
[19:16] <ThRixXx> its there under printer configuration, selected as default printer but not even the test page workds
[19:16] <HighNo> rinaldi_: it should, use localhost:1 to make it an encrypted session. that way will work on your external machine too
[19:16] <teo_> [FT]Alex, i have intel gl95 card and when i install the driver i cant up my xorg server.. the whole ubuntu gui is down..
[19:16] <HighNo> rinaldi_: i have to go now. have fun! bbl
[19:16] <frank_> NinjaPlimsoles: maybe...  but I don't think you should be so technical with a new linux user... some might be scared off by that
[19:16] <teo_> quarsaw, how to find one?
[19:16] <fus10nx> Is the QX9650 the best processor avilable to consumers right now?
[19:16] <rinaldi_> HighNo: thanks for your help!
[19:17] <peter77> I'm using ubuntu on a laptop and am having a few problems with power setting set in gconf, the first is ubuntu doesn't seem to be obeying the power critical action which is set at 20% but ubuntu halts the system at 5%
[19:17] <quarsaw> teo_: do a search for your video card model + ubuntu
[19:17] <bullgard4> English help wanted. What does it mean "to host testing" as in "Intel hosted EHCI conformance testing"? (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OHCI)
[19:17] <NinjaPlimsoles> frank_, nah he was asking me about Linux
[19:17] <ThRixXx> please HELP!:D
[19:17] <quarsaw> teo_: you should be able to find what driver in ubuntu will work for it
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme > ThRixXx
[19:17] <NinjaPlimsoles> frank_, he was singing the praise of Ubuntu/linux, i thought id sing a bit more ;)
[19:18] <ThRixXx> My printer dont work
[19:18] <frank_> NinjaPlimsoles: ;-)
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !dontwork | ThRixXx
[19:18] <manning_> What would be the best method of allowing myself remote access for a server box? I've tried VNC and it's performance is horrible compared to RDP for windows.
[19:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dontwork - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:18] <Kopfgeldjaeger> how can i make openoffice calc also print the table?
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !doesntwork | ThRixXx
[19:18] <ubotu> ThRixXx: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific!   The printer is picked up in "printer configuration" but not even the test page works
[19:19] <ThRixXx> it's switched on and everything.
[19:19] <NinjaPlimsoles> Kopfgeldjaeger, select the cells you want to have a border
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, How about make and model of printer which release you are using, something more to help us help you
[19:20] <NinjaPlimsoles> Kopfgeldjaeger, right click > format cells, then click the 'border' tab
[19:20] <cjae> wow I just think I got some kind of phone scam
[19:20] <ThRixXx> HP Deskjet 710c
[19:20] <Beererde> hi. is there a howto how to copy&boot the ubuntu live cd from  a usb stick??
[19:20] <teo_> quarsaw, i get this when i run compiz Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found
[19:20] <ThRixXx> hp:/par/DESKJET_720C?device=/dev/parport0
[19:21] <mzuverink> does evolution show spammassassin results(scores) yrt?
[19:21] <ThRixXx> its a deskjet 710 but it uses the 720's driver
[19:21] <NinjaPlimsoles> Beererde, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/ :)
[19:21] <Beererde> NinjaPlimsoles: thanks
[19:21] <LordLimecat> is there a tool for ubuntu that will allow me to lookup an IP address (possibly on another network segment) given its mac?
[19:21] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, It isnt using any driver at the moment
[19:21] <NinjaPlimsoles> Beererde, do you mean FROM the USB drive, or install TO one?
[19:21] <eeejay> are there any alpha-6 isos out there yet?
[19:22] <Kopfgeldjaeger> thx, got it
[19:22] <mzuverink> or is there a way to pipe thunderbird through spammassassin?
[19:22] <quarsaw> teo_: idk how ot owrk from that, I take it you dont know the model name of the video card?
[19:22] <ifireball> LordLimecat: possible on the same segment with arp, not possible on a different segment AFAIK
[19:22] <NinjaPlimsoles> Kopfgeldjaeger, no problem :)
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, Read this please  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77940
[19:23] <cjae> it said my credit rating has gone up and I am eligible for $2600.00 CAD
[19:23] <ThRixXx> thanks
[19:23] <aghachi> has any got itunes running?
[19:23]  * cjae hates the telephone
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | cjae,
[19:23] <ubotu> cjae,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:24] <Beererde> NinjaPlimsoles: i want to install FROM a usb drive, i have no cdrom drive
[19:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> Jack_Sparrow, does that mean I cant ramble about my wisdom tooth?
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> NinjaPlimsoles, :)
[19:24] <Beererde> NinjaPlimsoles: or can i directly install from windows when i mount the iso?
[19:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> Beererde, i think its possible to just extract the ISO to your USB and boot from it
[19:24] <ThRixXx> whats the command to edit files agai n?
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !install
[19:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:24] <lordleemo> Beererde:  thats for gutsy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, gksudo gedit
[19:25] <cjae> hey is a vx-3000 life (microsoft webcam)supported by ubuntu?
[19:25] <ThRixXx> ahh
[19:25] <Beererde> lordleemo: cool thx
[19:25] <isaacj87> does anyone know how to make a playlist and use that playlist on an ipod?
[19:25] <Beererde> lordleemo: but it needs a cd drive too :(
[19:25] <isaacj87> does banshee have that ability or will I have to use a different program
[19:26] <tarelerulz> I am trying to install gyachi and it needs 32 bit version of libgkthtml-2 and I guess the one I linked it to was 64 bit .  How would I get the 32 bit version of the lib ?
[19:26] <nagyv> hello! could someone help me to re-encode an avi? my set-top box (freebox) uses vlc when I stream from my computer, but can't play the avi, that I can play on the computer's screen
[19:26] <david__> ciao a tutti
[19:26] <david__> wich is the best program to emulate the mac ox launcher bar?
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, I use cairo-dock
[19:26] <isaacj87> david__: are you referring to the dock?
[19:27] <david__> isaacj87: yes, the dock
[19:27] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: does it have the option for icons of open windows?
[19:27] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[19:28] <isaacj87> david__: like Jack_Sparrow said...use cairo-dock or Avant Window Navigator
[19:28] <david__> any differences?
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, yes active windows show up in it.. I use the osx theme
[19:28] <david__> what are the differences between cairo and avant?
[19:28] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay i tried that and still no prevail
[19:28] <MTecknology> frank_, I'm back
[19:28] <eatatjoes> now it doesnt automatically boot to windows but error 21
[19:28] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, I seem to see more people with issues on AWN
[19:28] <frank_> cjae: http://www.colinbaker.org/unix/microsoftwebcam http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=555172 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4162010#post4162010  use google!   short answer: it's not worth it in 7.10. maybe 8.04 will be better.
[19:28] <eatatjoes> im in ubuntu with live session (from cd) now
[19:29] <nictimju> anyone here familiar with the setup of vlc ?  I can't seem to get the hotkeys working
[19:29] <eatatjoes> and another weird thing is that it shows the disk (where i installed ubuntu but doesnt show any other disks (my 2 other partitions on the external or my main hd, it says they are unable to mount, and gives instructions on a force mount)
[19:30] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: i will try cairo, you where talking about an osx theme, where do i find it?
[19:31] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, It is included in cairo dock
[19:31] <s0u][ight> nobudy who knows how the bot is set up?
[19:31] <david__> oh, ok
[19:31] <david__> i am installing libcairo2 and librsvg2-2 with apt-get, then i will find the deb for cairo?
[19:32] <isaacj87> david__: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/cairo-dock/
[19:32] <Pici> s0u][ight: supybot, see http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots for more info
[19:32] <Jack_Sparrow> s0u][ight, What were you wanting to know?
[19:32] <isaacj87> david__: you can find the deb there
[19:32] <JC_Denton_> Where should I go to get help with fixing apt?
[19:32] <david__> isaacj87: exactly, do i need to install cairo dock and also plugins or only the first one?
[19:32] <JonaTh> noob question: where can I find the Firefox installation directory?
[19:32] <JonaTh> on gutsy...
[19:32] <isaacj87> david__: install cairo-dock first...than the plugins
[19:33] <frank_> !fixapt | JC_Denton_
[19:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixapt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:33] <david__> what are the plugins for?
[19:33] <nictimju> JonaTh: try /usr/bin or do a whereis firefox
[19:33] <mzuverink> How does the cairo-dock compare to the AWM?
[19:33] <abstrak>  Hi all, i googleize a lot but cannot find a resolution for my problem : PCTV 310i remote don't want to work ! Anybody want to help me ?
[19:33] <Omlette> JonaTh: do you mean the directory for the FF binary, or the directory for the user setting?
[19:33] <frank_> !aptfix | JC_Denton_
[19:33] <ubotu> JC_Denton_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[19:33] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, Here is a tutorial.. and some pics if you are interested.. http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/cairo-dock?s=cairo%20dock
[19:33] <JonaTh> user setting
[19:33] <JonaTh> omlette
[19:34] <isaacj87> david__: not sure. but my guess is extra stuff like battery monitor, weather...stuff like that
[19:34] <Omlette> That would be inside your home folder.
[19:34] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, you are very helpfull
[19:34] <david__> isaacj87: thanks to you also
[19:34] <Omlette> ~/.mozilla
[19:34] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, Only sometimes  :)
[19:34] <Omlette> you might have to enable viewing of hidden files to see it.
[19:34] <eatatjoes> hey i'm having a problem: i installed ubuntu on my external hd (firewire) i have the ext hd divided into 3 partitions. so i installed it on the 3rd partition. when i boot it gives me error 21. so i booted from live cd and then did the sudo grub then find /boot/grub/stage1 then it said hd1,5 so i did root (hd1,5) then i did setup (hd0) and i still get error 21 (i have xp installed on the main...
[19:34] <eatatjoes> ...hd)... any ideas?
[19:34] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: you where today
[19:34] <isaacj87> mzuverink: try both! it wouldn't hurt
[19:35] <JonaTh> Omlette: Thanks.
[19:35] <[FT]Alex> does anyone know why I can't see my windows workgroup from ubuntu?
[19:35] <Jack_Sparrow> [FT]Alex, HAve you setup samba?
[19:35] <ThRixXx> Jack_Sparrow
[19:35] <abstrak> Anybody know when the "alsa update breaks kernel ABI" bug will be resolved ?
[19:36] <JC_Denton_> frank_ thanks but that didn't fix it. It keeps crashing on trying to remove packages which are dependent on mono which I'm trying to reinstall
[19:36] <ThRixXx> It still doesn't work :9
[19:36] <backtracker> hi, I want to add some graphic style to my Gutsy Gibbon 7.10
[19:36] <backtracker> dunno if openbox do that
[19:36] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, NOt sure if you need to restart to get that to work or not.. did you or not
[19:36] <david__> backtracker: try cairo dock, ;-)
[19:37] <djm62> can anyone help me set up empathy to connect to freenode? I get a connection error (ubuntu 7.10)
[19:37] <backtracker> cairo dock?
[19:37] <Omlette> Graphic style?
[19:37] <backtracker> Omlette: can't understand?
[19:37] <ThRixXx> ill quickly restart :p
[19:37] <david__> backtracker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CairoDock
[19:37] <backtracker> david__: thanks
[19:37] <[FT]Alex> Jack_Sparrow - I think samba is set up. let me run through everything again and see if it helps
[19:37] <isaacj87> david__: how are you liking it?
[19:37] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, Did you look at those pics to see if that is what you had ion mind
[19:38] <david__> backtracker: i just got helped on that one, dont thanks me, but Jack_Sparrow and isaacj87
[19:38] <mzuverink> I have a Hauppauge 150 pvr, It there a how to to get it working with myth?
[19:38] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: yes it was the right one, its great
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cool
[19:38] <mzuverink> rather tv card
[19:38] <karmelek> Hello! I have a question: i want to have an launcher which could run gnome-terminal with 2 tabs and a different program in each tab - how to do it?
[19:38] <mzuverink> it sats the drivers itv something and they are installed
[19:38] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: just one problem, how do i launch it?
[19:38] <teo_> quarsaw, i fix the problem but now i dont have the windows border :S its only displayed when i run compiz in terminal
[19:38] <Jack_Sparrow> mzuverink, I think myth has their own room, but I may also have a tutorial if you need one
[19:38] <teo_> ?
[19:39] <backtracker> david__: isn't in apt-get?
[19:39] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, I made a launcher for the taskbar...
[19:39] <mzuverink> Jack_Sparrow, that would be great!
[19:39] <protein333> Can anybody tell my what it says when you rightclick on my nickname, eg: user@user.net???
[19:39] <david__> backtracker: the libs are, but you need to download the 2 debs manually
[19:39] <backtracker> mmkay
[19:39] <eatatjoes> can anyone help me with installing ubuntu?
[19:39] <david__> Jack_Sparrow: what would the command be?
[19:40]  * abstrak want to know a channel where I can ask for Pinnacle PCTV remote controller problem resolution
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, make launcher for the upper taskbar, (Which I auto hide) and have cairo-dock as the command, you can also see this link for adding it to startup..
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[19:40] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[19:40] <isaacj87> david__: you're trying to run cairo?
[19:40] <david__> isaacj87: yes, i think i need to run cairo-dock in terminal
[19:40] <[FT]Alex> does anyone have a guide for setting up samba in gutsy?
[19:40] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, from terminal  type cairo-dock
[19:40] <VeNoM-work> [FT]Alex, yes
[19:40] <filthpig> eatatjoes, a bit more specific, please? Installing ubuntu is about as hard as eating cake :)
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mzuverink, one more sec
[19:41] <isaacj87> david__: no, just press alt+f2
[19:41] <VeNoM-work> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking-introduction.html
[19:41] <dakira> a question: if a package in hardy universe gets a new release in the next couple of days.. is there any way to get this into hardy?
[19:41] <ThRixXx> Jack, I reastarted and did everything
[19:41] <isaacj87> david__: then type: cairo-dock
[19:41] <eatatjoes> hey i'm having a problem: i installed ubuntu on my external hd (firewire) i have the ext hd divided into 3 partitions. so i installed it on the 3rd partition. when i boot it gives me error 21. so i booted from live cd and then did the sudo grub then find /boot/grub/stage1 then it said hd1,5 so i did root (hd1,5) then i did setup (hd0) and i still get error 21 (i have xp installed on the main...
[19:41] <eatatjoes> ...hd)... any ideas?
[19:41] <mzuverink> david,_try easylinux.info
[19:41] <david__> perfect
[19:41] <ThRixXx> But it sttill doesn't work
[19:41] <[FT]Alex> thanks, VeNoM-work
[19:41] <isaacj87> david__: well you could run it from terminal if you want ;)
[19:41] <VeNoM-work> np. I was actually looking at that now, lol
[19:41] <ThRixXx> The printer is picked up by ubuntu tho
[19:41] <VeNoM-work> what are you needing samba for?
[19:41] <Jack_Sparrow> mzuverink, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend                is one of many
[19:41] <backtracker> david__: check at the .deb packages ==> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[19:41] <backtracker> when you click at .deb
[19:41] <backtracker> :S
[19:41] <david__> isaacj87 or Jack_Sparrowwould you know why i get a black background?
[19:42] <abstrak> Anybody have a PCTV 310i with a working remote controller ?
[19:42] <mzuverink> Jack_Sparrow, thank you kind person
[19:42] <[FT]Alex> VeNoM-work - I'm trying to access my windows workgroup from ubuntu and it just doesn't want to work
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:42] <VeNoM-work> [FT]Alex, have you enabled windows networking?
[19:42] <isaacj87> Jack_Sparrow: does cairo-dock need composite support?
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> david__, black background behind the dock?
[19:42] <david__> exactly
[19:42] <isaacj87> david__: are you running compiz?
[19:42] <frank_> mzuverink: what is the problem with your pvr-150?
[19:42] <prashant> how to change brightness of video
[19:42] <Jack_Sparrow> isaacj87, I dont think so, but I do use effects here
[19:42] <david__> mmh, i disabled desktop effects
[19:42] <eatatjoes> filthpig: any ideas?
[19:43] <carrera> can anyone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't recognize my RAID 0?
[19:43] <prashant> how to change brightness of video
[19:43] <VeNoM-work> [FT]Alex, Samba is not necessary to:
[19:43] <VeNoM-work> Access shared folders, drives and printers on a Windows computer (that is, act as a client with Windows servers), you only need a smbfs plugin. See MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:43] <isaacj87> david__: i thought cairo-dock needed compiz to be running
[19:43] <david__> i will turn it on now and retry
[19:43] <VeNoM-work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[19:43] <prashant> how to change brightness of video
[19:43] <carrera> can anyone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't recognize my RAID 0? Fedora has no problems
[19:43] <mzuverink> Frankits on a desktop and I can seem to get the frontend to connect to the backend it days all the interfaces to the device are used
[19:43] <david__> k, i put effects to normal and it works great
[19:43] <backtracker> david__: check at the .deb packages ==> https://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8724&release_id=14108
[19:44] <mzuverink> Frank,^^^
[19:44] <backtracker> :S
[19:44] <isaacj87> david__: cool :)
[19:44] <Tommaatti> Does someone know if it is possible to add the xorg Option "DontZap" "yes" to debian database from the console directly?
[19:44] <carrera> can anyone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't recognize my RAID 0? Fedora has no problems
[19:44] <paulo-falcao> have no sound after upgrade to hardy, can anyone help
[19:44] <paulo-falcao> ?
[19:44] <ThRixXx> Jack_Sparrow
[19:44] <david__> backtracker: get the latest version
[19:44] <Pici> paulo-falcao: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[19:44] <filthpig> eatatjoes, hw, not sure about that one.. I'd prefer an internal disk install than on an ext hdd, but it shouldn't be a problem either.. sorry bout that.. tried googling it?
[19:44] <Jack_Sparrow> paulo-falcao, Ask in #Ubuntu+1
[19:44] <ThRixXx> It still doesn't work, any other suggestions?
[19:45] <paulo-falcao> join #Ubuntu+1
[19:45] <prashant> how to change brightness , contrass of video
[19:45] <filthpig> !raid | carrera
[19:45] <ubotu> carrera: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[19:45] <prashant> how to change brightness , contrass of video
[19:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, Several things came up on that printer when I gogled your printer and ubuntu
[19:45] <eatatjoes> filthpig: yeah, i was asking NinjaPlimsoles  earlier but he must be busy, also, any idea on how to mount the other disks (main hds?) they said "unable to mount" (im in live session) on ubuntu
[19:45] <prashant> how to change brightness , contrass of video
[19:45] <frank_> mzuverink: when you start the frontend and hit watch tv, it says it can't connect to the backend?
[19:46] <david__> Jack_Sparrow and isaacj87 this is exactly what i was looking for, i would like to tahnks you two again. The channel needs more people like you
[19:46] <carrera> thanks filthpig
[19:46] <ThRixXx> I know, it all gives me the same thin
[19:46] <isaacj87> david__: no problem! enjoy :)
[19:46] <prashant> david
[19:46] <prashant> how to change brightness , contrass of video
[19:46] <ThRixXx> I followd them and edited the file.
[19:46] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, whats up?
[19:46] <VeNoM-work> prashant, see monitor
[19:46] <mzuverink> frank_yes
[19:46] <carrera> filthpig, I forgot to say Ubuntu 7.10 doesn't recognize my RAID 0 at installation time
[19:46] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay i tried that and still no prevail
[19:47] <prashant> what see monitor
[19:47] <eatatjoes> now it doesnt automatically boot to windows but error 21
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, then something you did prior to that may have messed things up.. sorry but I dont have any suggestions
[19:47] <VeNoM-work> prashant, adjust the settings on your monitor
[19:47] <eatatjoes> and another weird thing is that it shows the disk (where i installed ubuntu but doesnt show any other disks (my 2 other partitions on the external or my main hd, it says they are unable to mount, and gives instructions on a force mount)
[19:47] <prashant> how
[19:47] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, how are your hard disks configured?
[19:47] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Are you using the live cd or the alt
[19:47] <ThRixXx> ;/
[19:47] <ThRixXx> Thanks
[19:47] <VeNoM-work> through the menu. it's all hardware.
[19:47] <frank_> mzuverink: is the backend on the same computer and how did you setup mythtv?
[19:47] <prashant> venom ........ how
[19:47] <eatatjoes> ntfs?
[19:47] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, not sure
[19:47] <prashant> venom ........ how
[19:47] <david__> i will go now, i need to study this new eye candy
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, Think back about what else you tried that may have added to the problem
[19:48] <david__> tahnks and bye
[19:48] <prashant> venom ........ how
[19:48] <VeNoM-work> it depends on your monitor
[19:48] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, 1 sata drive, a raid, ide?
[19:48] <bobf> We have started a religion that is, unfortunately, not related to Ubuntu. Gokee2 seems to be our God. We worship in #prog.
[19:48] <mzuverink> frank_default settings
[19:48] <eatatjoes> internal ide
[19:48] <prashant> venom ........ how
[19:48] <eatatjoes> and external ide
[19:48] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, Does it boot to a gui desktop with an icon for installing
[19:48] <VeNoM-work> prashant, it depends on your monitor
[19:48] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, i downloaded both the Desktop and Server, but both failed to recognize my RAID
[19:48] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, i cant see what the problem is, it just boots straight to windows?
[19:48] <frank_> mzuverink: try  sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend restart
[19:48] <hischild> bazhang, you're awesome <3 tnx
[19:48] <mzuverink> ok
[19:49] <filthpig> eatatjoes, huh.. There's something far at the back of my mind concerning that.. What do you do to mount them?
[19:49] <carrera> Jack_Sparrow, I think it did boot to a GUI, that's what i was trying to remember
[19:49] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  no when i did the root and setup thing it now gives error 21 instead of booting directly into windows
[19:49] <hischild> !helpersnack | bazhang
[19:49] <Jack_Sparrow> carrera, I dont mess with raid any more these days.. but I seem to remember you had to use the alternatecd
[19:49] <ubotu> bazhang: Wow!  It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[19:50] <ThRixXx> yay
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, success?
[19:50] <ThRixXx> there was  a program i needed to install!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[19:50] <carrera> thanks Mr. Jack_Sparrow!
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[19:50] <ThRixXx> Jack I owe u one man!!! <3 :p
[19:50] <J_J> ik kan het niet meer volgen allemaal.
[19:50] <ThRixXx> chrz!! greets here from SA
[19:50] <Jack_Sparrow> ThRixXx, any time.. glad to help
[19:51] <VeNoM-work> if I want to change dir in terminal to desktop i just type cd ~/desktop right?
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> VeNoM-work, Cap D
[19:52] <frank_> VeNoM-work: Desktop
[19:52] <windvogel> Hello everybody!
[19:52] <marx2k> VeNoM-work yes
[19:52] <havenless> k, just how in the world does one get spdif output working with intel HDA ALC880 audio anyways? is it even possible?
[19:52] <NinjaPlimsoles> VeNoM-work, Linux is case sensitive
[19:52] <VeNoM-work> thanks
[19:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !intelhda
[19:53] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[19:53] <havenless> thanks, looking
[19:53] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles or filthpig any ideas?
[19:53] <allos_nerelin>
[19:53] <allos_nerelin> I am open to the editor, as the data unless I wrote it?
[19:53] <Jack_Sparrow> havenless, See also the #Alsa channel
[19:53] <frank_> mzuverink: join   #ubuntu-mythtv   when you can ;-)
[19:53] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, so you have 1 internal HDD on IDE channel 1 and an external drive?
[19:54] <eatatjoes> yes
[19:54] <qzio> ok, i dont know here to ask, but anways: i have a small c-program that runs system("script.sh"); and script.sh runs whoami; the c-program i chmodded +s and owned by me. if i do sudo -u www-data ./c-program i get "www-data" not my username
[19:54] <eatatjoes> (laptop)
[19:54] <fibres> Hey all
[19:54] <eatatjoes> external is connected via firewire
[19:54] <qzio> have I unsterstood this with setting the S bit wrong?
[19:54] <Seb962> Hey guys whenever I'm trying to boot up ubuntu I get "/dev/disk/dyuvid/73e30d0-9b6d-449db-bbgf-f80cf-ed28c32 does not exist, dropping to a shell, and get to a busybox shell... Any ideas?
[19:54] <eatatjoes> and partitioned into 3 sections
[19:55] <bloody`> hey guys. im running xubuntu, newest version, and it randomly freezes on me, to the point i need to hard reboot my laptop :(. does it both in xubuntu and regular ubuntu, seperate installs.
[19:55] <Jack_Sparrow> qzio, You might want to look into the C programming channel
[19:55] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, when you reply to me, type my name at the beginning so i know your talking to me, all users do this
[19:55] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  sorry
[19:55] <qzio> Jack_Sparrow: thanks..
[19:55] <fibres> Right I got a strange problem. Im using ubuntu server with a samba share to some windows machine. The machines can create files on the share, however after 48hrs have passed those files cannot be edited or deleted.
[19:55] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, no problem, just in case you thought i was ignoring you :P
[19:56] <bloody`> hey guys. im running xubuntu, newest version, and it randomly freezes on me, to the point i need to hard reboot my laptop :(. does it both in xubuntu and regular ubuntu, seperate installs.
[19:56] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Which version?
[19:56] <allos_nerelin> "Sudo vim / etc / xinetd.d / ircd" I am open to the editor, wrote data in this file, except as what I wrote on it?
[19:56] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, so you followed my instructions and its giving an error 21?
[19:57] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  correct
[19:57] <bloody`> 7.10
[19:57] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles: im in ubuntu live and it didnt mount my other drives (not sure if that mattered)
[19:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Please provide hardware info
[19:58] <demonspork> how do I mount a folder from a remote web server in a local folder on my ubuntu system?
[19:58] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, try this method instead: boot the ubuntu live CD, 'sudo su' then 'fdisk -l' find the linux partition/hd
[19:58] <Repentinus> Can someone recommend virtual machine for ubuntu?
[19:58] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, then do 'grub-install /dev/hdx' x being your hard drive number
[19:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Repentinus, vbox
[19:58] <havenless> to install ubuntu into, or to run other OSes onto ubuntu?
[19:59] <VeNoM-work> what does the sudo do?
[19:59] <NinjaPlimsoles> VeNoM-work, sudo grants superuser access
[19:59] <Repentinus> Jack, would you be so nice to give me link for download?
[19:59] <VeNoM-work> so it's like su in other distros NinjaPlimsoles?
[19:59] <Repentinus> Run other OSes on Ubuntu
[19:59] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  can we pm so i can send u what the fdisk -l said?
[20:00] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, sure
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !info vbox
[20:00] <ubotu> Package vbox does not exist in gutsy
[20:00] <fibres> VeNoM-work, No it only runs the command that follows it as superuser
[20:00] <bloody`> jack: its a trendnet tew , onboard on a dell ml3706
[20:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Repentinus, vbox has a channel here
[20:00] <VeNoM-work> ahh, thanks fibres
[20:00] <jokeras> hi
[20:00] <chadse> since i got the wine update yesterday it has been running wineserver at 100% CPU and will not allow me to kill it.  Any suggestions ?
[20:00] <fibres> VeNoM-work, nw
[20:00] <ceil420> uhm... why would sysinfo tell me i have debian lenny/sid when i'm on ubuntu gutsy? :o
[20:00] <bloody`> lol
[20:01] <eatatjoes> NinjaPlimsoles:  it says unregistered cannot pm
[20:01] <jokeras> anyone speak french here ?
[20:01] <Seb962> Ceil420, Ubuntu is based in Debian, as far as I know.
[20:01] <aghachi> any1 now a cool list of repositories
[20:01] <LukeL> !fr
[20:01] <VeNoM-work> eatatjoes, you must register :)
[20:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:01] <bloody`> francais?
[20:01] <aghachi> or wher i can read a lsit of apps and stuff
[20:01] <chadse> sudo killall
[20:01] <NinjaPlimsoles> VeNoM-work, su is user substitution, so if you do sudo su it will sudo you without prompting a password, and then convert your term session into superuser
[20:01] <chadse> oops
[20:01] <jokeras> ok thanks a lot
[20:01] <jokeras> oui
[20:01] <ceil420> Seb962, when i had Feisty, it told me so. this is the first time i've looked at it since upgrading to Gutsy, and now it thinks i'm on debian :o
[20:01] <marx2k> Can anyone recommend a good XBox or Playstation2 to PC joystick converter for Linux? (USB)
[20:02] <Seb962> Ceil420: Ouch lol. Is that causing any kind of concern, though?
[20:02] <VeNoM-work> NinjaPlimsoles, I'm not sure what that means to me
[20:02] <fibres> Right I got a strange problem. Im using ubuntu server with a samba share to some windows machine. The machines can create files on the share, however after 48hrs have passed those files cannot be edited or deleted.
[20:02] <eatatjoes> VeNoM-work:  it keeps saying erroranoues nick
[20:02] <VeNoM-work> fibres, have you installed smbfs?
[20:02] <VeNoM-work> I've heard that has been an issue
[20:02] <ceil420> Seb962, not particularly. it amuses me more than anything. I was just surprised to see the Debian logo there instead of Ubuntu lol
[20:02] <chadse> Anyone know why wineserver is running at 100% CPU with no wine apps open ?
[20:02] <backtracker> At the installation process of Cairo Dock I have this instruction --> Download and decompress the source .tar.bz2, move to the newly created directory (cd opt/cairo-dock/cairo-dock) and type:
[20:03] <Seb962> Ceil420: A conspiracy, in my opinion.
[20:03] <gotgnu> how do I switch totem to x11 rendering ???
[20:03] <backtracker> what does it mean
[20:03] <Repentinus> Thank you and bye bye.
[20:03] <ceil420> :p
[20:03] <krazed> danand: You there?
[20:03] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes, /msg nickserv register <password>
[20:03] <fibres> VeNoM-work, not sure Its a ext3 formatted partition I believe
[20:03] <mrpoundsign> ok, I have been looking, but there is no clear, simple guide I can find to fix the uuids of your drives changing and causing you not be able to boot. They say useful-sounding things like "edit your grub config" -- but it doesnt say how to identify which of the 3 uuids, that show up in dev is your partition, or how to edit the file without vi. :) any help? Or a link to a useful recovery guide?
[20:03] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420, Did you add a Debian repo to your sources for something you wanted to load?
[20:03] <fibres> I did an apt-get install samba I think
[20:04] <dgjones> ceil420, sysinfo on mine also says lenny/sid, all this has ever had on it is ubuntu
[20:04] <VeNoM-work> I've been doing some research on samba, let me see if I can find some of those links fibres
[20:04] <Seb962> mrpoundsign I found this i. :) any help? Or a link to a useful recovery guide?
 ceil420, Did you add a Debian repo to your sources for something you wanted to load?
[20:04] <Seb962> Lol, sorry.
[20:04] <ceil420> dgjones, weird :o
[20:04]  * ceil420 looks at sources.list
[20:04] <Seb962> I found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=679139
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, for editors you can sudo nano...  for uuid of a partition that is easy as well.. one sec
[20:04] <Devourer> What the package name for the VMWare player?
[20:04] <NinjaPlimsoles> Cluebuntu: Captain Sanders, in the server hall, with a 1.5m patch cable
[20:04] <fibres> VeNoM-work, Thanks this is causing real problems as it is a production server at a community based radio station on their main studio system
[20:04] <krazed> Anyone -- I've installed fluxbox, but when I run and try to use it, I get nothing on right click. Any ideas?
[20:05] <ceil420> Seb962, everything's from ubuntu.com
[20:05] <Seb962> Ceil420: I apologize I pasted the wrong thing :)
[20:05] <Seb962> Brb.
[20:05] <VeNoM-work> fibres, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[20:05] <VeNoM-work> I don't know if that will help you]
[20:05] <SR71-Blackbird> is it possible to download an older release from apt-get
[20:05] <bloody`> ew, smb
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda7       select partition of your choice
[20:06] <VeNoM-work> you need to make sure that you've installed the smbfs IIRC
[20:06] <XceII> I just put a new vid card in, (geforce 7200) and it wont boot, tried xorg, it says xserver is not installed, what can I do?
[20:06] <VeNoM-work> install xserver?
[20:06] <magnetron> fibres: don't use smbfs, use cifs instead
[20:06] <XceII> how
[20:06] <VeNoM-work> oh right. yeah, cifs is better
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> XceII, recovery mode  at cli  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:07] <VeNoM-work> fibres, this is a better link
[20:07] <VeNoM-work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:07] <XceII> it tried it comes back (xserver is not installed, again
[20:07] <marx2k> I always use cifs... smbfs is buggy and inconsistent
[20:07] <fibres> Ok any guides on installing cifs?
[20:07] <VeNoM-work> fibres, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:07] <marx2k> !cifs
[20:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cifs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> XceII, Something more than changing the video card has happened.
[20:08] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: thanks.
[20:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, np
[20:08] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, check your PM's
[20:08] <marx2k> fibres: google: "site:ubuntuforums.org cifs howto"
[20:08] <XceII> jack-sparrow: when using on board graphics, it works
[20:09] <XceII> and kubuntu picked it up no problem
[20:09] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: ok, in my fancy pant initramfs, there is no vol_id or sudo.
[20:09] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: or nano, or anthing useful. :)
[20:09] <dgjones> ceil420, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysinfo/+bug/121068
[20:10] <XceII> ill try that again jack, thanks for the help
[20:10] <fr0nk_> hi :) how can i add users to samba? and: is there a gui? :D
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, arrgh..  No tools, no fix..
[20:10] <richard__> howdy, could anyone "remind"me how to check which kernel (and architecture) I have?:)
[20:10] <VeNoM-work> fibres, you can also check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473&highlight=cifs+samba+share
[20:10] <fr0nk_> i tried smb<tab> but there isn't any suitable app
[20:10] <fibres> VeNoM-work, Thanks but im using a linux machine as a fiel server for a windows network. It is a linux smb share which im connecting to from a windows machine
[20:10] <richard__> using the command line
[20:10] <VeNoM-work> fibres, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[20:10] <havenless> fibres: i hope to try that soon :)
[20:10] <marx2k> fibres: cifs works as smb shares
[20:10] <ceil420> dgjones, heh thanks :)
[20:10] <fr0nk_> and i don't want that samba users are system users :)
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> richard__, uname -a
[20:10] <havenless> just gotta get that sound working first
[20:10] <VeNoM-work> er sorry fibers
[20:11] <richard__> thanks, captain!
[20:11] <VeNoM-work> I was trying to send that to someone else
[20:11] <VeNoM-work> fr0nk_, use the link above
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:11] <ceil420> dgjones, i figured it was something to do with Gutsy itself and not something else i installed, cos i haven't installed much else :p
[20:11] <marx2k> !Screen
[20:11] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[20:11] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: so, when people made the decision to use these uuids -- were they aware that they randomly change? Does linux use a new algorythm for generating ids every 2 months or do? I had the same problem upgrading my desktop machine -- same HDD, but the uuid changed.
[20:11] <ceil420> but unlike that bug report, i get the Debian logo instead of the Ubuntu one :p
[20:12] <dgjones> ceil420, i do get the ubuntu logo :)
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, uuid's are a double edge sword, they fix some things but cause other problems.  They dont randomly change.  But editing or adding partitions does cause us grief
[20:12] <ceil420> dgjones, http://ceil.is-a-geek.org/temp/sysinfo.png
[20:13] <ceil420> :p
[20:13] <bcardarella> Is it normal for Xorg to be using up to 80% of my CPU when running an Adobe Flash movie?
[20:13] <willy_> bonsoir a tous; est ce que quelqu'un connait bien dotclear ?
[20:13] <chadse> can someone help me with a wineserver issue?  its taking 100% of my CPU, but i have no wine apps open and I cannot kill the process.
[20:13] <MaNsOnR> good evening
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> chadse, try #Winehq
[20:14] <chadse> its dead over there, but ill try again
[20:14] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: ok, fixed it in the grub boot (once) -- will try the fancy tool to fix. :) and I much prefer sd[*]
[20:14] <impulse32> willy_: essaie #ubuntu-fr
[20:14] <magnetron> !fr | willy_
[20:14] <ubotu> willy_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:14] <gotgnu> how do I switch totem to x11 rendering ???
[20:14] <willy_> merci j'y vais
[20:14] <Ward1983> i currently have vista inatalled on 1 partition of a raid0 array on the Intel ICH8R controller of my asus p5b deluxe, now i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on the other partition of the raid0 array, whats the best way to do this? i installed ubuntu several times but never with raid (i have a new system)
[20:14] <willy_> join /ubuntu-fr
[20:14] <DisSha> !paste
[20:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:14] <adamb> open up 3 firefox tabs and my x restarts, firefox blows
[20:14] <hdevalence> is there a way to throttle update-manager?
[20:15] <Ward1983> lol flood? its my story / question...
[20:15] <chadse> adamb:  i have about 20 FF3 windows open right now ... maybe your machine
[20:15] <adamb> chadse: no happens on every person is the office.
[20:15] <adamb> to test, open up 4 random myspace pages, and your firefox will crash, or x will restart on its own.
[20:16] <macogw> hdevalence: cpu usage or download rates?
[20:16] <hdevalence> macogw: download rates
[20:16] <macogw> hdevalence: oh umm yes, look up network shaping
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> adamb, link 4 pages for me
[20:17] <bloody`> hey guys. im running xubuntu, newest version, and it randomly freezes on me, to the point i need to hard reboot my laptop :(. does it both in xubuntu and regular ubuntu, seperate installs.
[20:17] <hdevalence> macogw: I have conrol over only my machine though
[20:17] <hdevalence> not the router
[20:17] <chadse> adamb:  very strange ... 4 linux boxes here in front of me ... i dont have that issue at all .. are you on FF3B3 ?
[20:17] <Downsay> could someone answer some very basic questions for me with Linux, please?
[20:17] <macogw> hdevalence: should still be a way i think...
[20:17] <adamb> not strange, it happens to everyone in office, lol
[20:17] <adamb> we all run diff linux versions of ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:18] <[FT]Alex> depends on the myspace page you're loading, probably :p
[20:18] <Downsay> I'm interested in getting Linux, Mint...is it a good OS and how do I boot from a CD?
[20:18] <Downsay> I realize this is for Ubuntu, which I am currently using, but I have no idea where to turn for some guidance
[20:18] <macogw> adamb: ive got 4 myspace pages open, no issues for me
[20:18] <adamb> Jack_Sparrow: any random myspace pages... it chokes up on the ones with loading all that crap, like images, js, embded songs/vidoeos..
[20:18] <drc> adamb, maybe The Boss has decided that going to MySpace during business hours is Not A Good Idea?
[20:18] <macogw> adamb: try installing noscript on them
[20:18] <NinjaPlimsoles> Downsay, i would recommend joining Linux Mint's IRC room for those kinds of questions :)
[20:19] <Ward1983> i currently have windows inatalled on 1 partition of a raid0 array on the Intel ICH8R controller of my asus p5b deluxe, now i want to install ubuntu 7.10 on the other partition of the raid0 array, whats the best way to do this? i installed ubuntu (including multiboot) several times but never with raid (i have recently bought a new system)
[20:19] <adamb> drc: I am the boss
[20:19] <Downsay> ok, which is where?
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Downsay, Mint has little support
[20:19] <chadse> adamb:  how did you do these FF installs  and did you have FF2 installed before ?
[20:19] <Downsay> I'm really a newbie with all this stuff
[20:19] <Downsay> all I need is pointing in the correct direction
[20:19] <Downsay> and thank you for the help!
[20:19] <adamb> noscript?
[20:19] <danand> Downsay - check your machine can boot from CD by checking in the bios. the cdrom should be before the hard disk in the boot order.
[20:19] <NWH_Ed> Ok I have a big problem
[20:19] <adamb> default ff installs
[20:19] <Downsay> thanks danand
[20:19] <danand> Downsay - then just pop the cd in the drive and start the machine
[20:19] <Downsay> does anyone know what the server is for mint's help?
[20:19] <NWH_Ed> It says that my Ubuntu File System is read only, I have installed Ubuntu
[20:20] <marx2k> wow.... screen is NICE.
[20:20] <chadse> how did you install FF3 though ... via apt or via compile ?
[20:20] <Downsay> k, danand, you've been a huge help
[20:20] <Downsay> I'm going to go ahead and do that
[20:20] <Downsay> thanks a lot!
[20:20] <danand> Downsay - read all the install info before you do that though
[20:20] <Downsay> ok
[20:20] <Downsay> :P
[20:20] <adamb> who said I had ff3?
[20:20] <Downsay> then maybe I should stay here
[20:20] <Downsay> lol
[20:20] <danand> Downsay - luck
[20:20] <danand> Downsay - ubuntu is better :P
[20:21] <NWH_Ed> ubuntu is the bets
[20:21] <NWH_Ed> *best
[20:21] <vlt> Hello. What do I need to create a tap device for using with qemu?
[20:21] <chadse> sorry i misread an earlier post ... i havent used FF2 in months ...
[20:21] <adamb> there ff goes with the graying out.. rolls his eyes...
[20:21] <marx2k> NWH_Ed depends on your needs
[20:21] <max_> Could someone help me? I'm having an issue with sound.
[20:22] <adamb> also with google toolbar, ff crashes after 3 windows open... you can test that..
[20:22] <Downsay> danand, pm, please
[20:22] <chadse> do you notice the issue on js pages .. or pages with embeded video .... what happens if you just open 4 pages of google.com
[20:22] <marx2k> Use Opera :)
[20:22] <NWH_Ed> My ubuntu install is saying that it is a Read Only File System
[20:22] <danand> max_ - if thats an intel card that uses the snd-hda-intel driver then NO :P
[20:22] <marx2k> NWH_Ed: Are you currently running the LiveCD or something?
[20:22] <adamb> no its just pages with lots of embeded crap..
[20:22] <jim> !info alsa-firmware
[20:22] <ubotu> Package alsa-firmware does not exist in gutsy
[20:22] <danand> Downsay - ok
[20:22] <abstrak> it's possible to install ubuntu server from internet without burning a CD ?
[20:22] <adamb> i can open 20 with pages thats not doing anything..
[20:23] <yeonhoo_> hello
[20:23] <max_> danand ... it is an Intel card ... but why wont it work?
[20:23] <marx2k> abstrak: I dont know if there's a network install for Ubuntu
[20:23] <NWH_Ed> I install ubuntu a while back, mark
[20:23] <max_> It works, but not in apps like Wine.
[20:23] <macogw> adamb: noscript might make it work ok
[20:23] <macogw> adamb: no js or flash will run on its own.  user has to allow it
[20:23] <chadse> adamb ... your problem sounds like a plugin issue then and not FF ... do an about:plugins and make sure there is a plugin listed for Java and for the media types ... esp flash
[20:23] <max_> You see, sometimes the sound works in programs like wine, sometimes it doesnt.
[20:23] <jim> abstrak: what's said server running now?
[20:23] <Downsay> danand, can you see my msg?
[20:23] <yeonhoo_> I have installed a program from source and i want to remove this program but i dont know since its not a package
[20:23] <macogw> adamb: but maybe upgrading to ff3 would be a good idea.  ff3 is not the mem hog the old ones were
[20:23] <marx2k> abstrak: http://www.wrigley.me.uk/wp/?p=71
[20:24] <yeonhoo_> i cant either remove using "apt-get remove xxxxx"
[20:24] <Downsay> how do I type directly to someone in Xchat like danand is doing?
[20:24] <bthornton> I'm browsing through the "Add/Remove Applications" app, and I'm seeing two "NVidia binary X.Ord driver"s... one by that name, and one that says ('new' driver). The descriptions are the same. What's the difference?
[20:24] <adamb> noscript is a package a ff addon, or?
[20:24] <danand> max_ - oh no - if you search the forums there is help available - just that i've seen _alot_ of people have problems with those cards
[20:24] <yeonhoo_> cmoputer does not find
[20:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !install | abstrak
[20:24] <ubotu> abstrak: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:24] <macogw> Downsay: /msg <nickname> <message>
[20:24] <Downsay> ty very much
[20:24] <marx2k> yeonhoo: you need to remove where it installed to
[20:24] <yeonhoo_> how can i remove a program that i install from source code???
[20:25] <yeonhoo_> ah..
[20:25] <jim> yeonhoo_: that's on you
[20:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> jim, no it isnt
[20:25] <danand> Downsay - if your not registered with Nickserv i don't think you can pm :(
[20:25] <marx2k> yeonhoo: Look for the firectory it installed to
[20:25] <Downsay> I used to be registered...hrm
[20:25] <Ward1983> how do i install ubuntu on a partition of my raid0 array on a * Set by Seveas on Fri Feb 01 00:59:44
 ik heb momenteel vista op mijn pc staan op een van men 2 partities van men raid0 array op men asus p5b deluxe moederbordje (op de Intel ICH8R chip), nu zou ik graag ubuntu 7.10 op de andere partitie installeren en multibooten, heb ubuntu al een aantal keer geinstalleerd maar nog nooit met raid, hoe kan ik dit best doen?
 tzijn trouwens 2 raptors :D
[20:25] <Ward1983> * Petrov<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-nl
[20:25] <Downsay> strange
[20:25] <Ward1983> * fransman<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-nl
[20:25] <FloodBot3> Ward1983: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> yeonhoo_, do you still have the directory where you compiled it?
 Wordt er al ergens over een Hardy Heron release party geschreven?
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> yeonhoo_,  Look into make uninstall
[20:25] <Downsay> how to register?
[20:25] <danand> flood =O
[20:25] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles,  yes i think i have
[20:25] <redneck> ////////////////////////
[20:26] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles,  im not sure about that
[20:26] <Jack_Sparrow> redneck, Please dont do that
[20:26] <marx2k> Also, for future source compiling, you can always make a deb of your made binaries using.. uh... damn, forgot the name of the app... is it 'makeinstall'?
[20:26] <abstrak> i'm on hardy and want to get back on gusty... what's the better way ... my system is well configured now... a lot of time !
[20:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> yeonhoo_, cd to that directory and type make uninstall
[20:26] <danand> Downsay - do you want to go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss?
[20:26] <Downsay> yes
[20:26] <redneck> sorry Jack.. just tested this thing
[20:26] <danand> Downsay - k, see you in there
[20:26] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles,  ok i try
[20:26] <marx2k>  checkinstall                                                           - installation tracker
[20:26] <||COSTA||> is there anyone here who could help to syncronize a pocket pc with ubuntu?
[20:26] <marx2k> yeonhoo: look at the package called checkinstall
[20:27] <marx2k> !Checkinstall
[20:27] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[20:27] <Ward1983> sorry about that, accidentally cut a piece of irc channel
[20:27] <Ward1983> i meant to paste something else
[20:27] <NinjaPlimsoles> marx2k, hes trying to UNINSTALL not make a .deb, please dont topic jump
[20:27] <marx2k> NinjaPlimsoles: read above. I said "in the future, use..."
[20:28] <abstrak> i'm on hardy and want to get back on gusty... what's the better, simple and faster way ?
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, You cant downgrade
[20:28] <marx2k> you cant really downgrade
[20:28] <jim> NinjaPlimsoles: one way to uninstall is for him to find out everything make install did, and remove what it placed
[20:28] <abstrak> ok
[20:28] <Jack_Sparrow> abstrak, Insert Gutsy CD and hit install
[20:28] <abstrak> i have to reinstall
[20:28] <mrpoundsign> Jack_Sparrow: alright, I am booted, and that command spits out the ID -- which is great, but how do I fix my booting issue? What /file/ do I need to edit/add that to?
[20:29] <marx2k> I hope you created a seperate /home partition ;)
[20:29] <abstrak> what's the big differences between desktop and server version ?
[20:29] <abstrak> of ubuntu
[20:29] <Jack_Sparrow> mrpoundsign, Not sure if you are looking for /boot/grub/menu.lst  or /etc/fstab
[20:29] <methods> where are keyboard button actions mapped for special laptop keys ?
[20:29] <ifireball> abstrak: the GUI
[20:29] <marx2k> I thought server version was CLI only
[20:29] <reflexivu> somebody with experience with hidden partitions, laptops and installing ubuntu prv me
[20:29] <reflexivu> pls pls
[20:29] <Ward1983> how can i install ubuntu 7.10 on a partition of my raid0 array, working with a intel ICH8R
[20:29] <marx2k> reflexivu just ask in the channel
[20:29] <NinjaPlimsoles> jim, yeah but thats very arduous :P
[20:30] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[20:30] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[20:30] <jim> abstrak: if you didn't make a separate /home, you can do that if you have some unpartitioned space... it would be a good thing for you to do that before reinstalling if you have stuff in /home you want to keep
[20:30] <magnetron> hi! using transmission, i know there are 2000+ seeders available for a torrent. but transmission is only connected 50 of them. i'm using ~5% of my bandwidth. how can i increase the number of seeders i DL from?
[20:30] <abstrak> yep ...
[20:30] <marx2k> how many screen sessions can I have open at once?!
[20:31] <bastid_raZor> during the update from 7.04 to 7.10 my custom motd was lost.. if i'm to replace it with a new one i put that in /etc/ or in /var/run/?
[20:31] <[FT]Alex> magnetron - tried forwarding the ports on your router?
[20:31] <reflexivu> marx> what channel? :|
[20:31] <jim> NinjaPlimsoles: it might be his only choice... make uninstall may or may not work if it even exists for the thing he installed
[20:31] <marx2k> reflexivu this one
[20:31] <methods> i mean for FN keyboard shortcuts
[20:31] <Yasumoto> Does anyone have a tutorial to set up a mail server they really like, by any chance?
[20:31] <marx2k> !Sendmail
[20:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:31] <marx2k> !Mail
[20:31] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[20:31] <magnetron> [FT]Alex: i'm seeding twice as much as i download
[20:31] <marx2k> blah
[20:31] <methods> !Keyboard
[20:31] <ubotu> To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[20:31] <l3dx> is it possible to resize windows partitions in the ubuntu installation process?
[20:32] <Flare183> !msgthebot | marx2k
[20:32] <ubotu> marx2k: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[20:32] <Jack_Sparrow> l3dx, yes
[20:32] <magnetron> marx2k: the ubuntu server guide mentions how to set up a mail server
[20:32] <yacc> Just curiously, how to describe to a newbie where to find vino in Ubuntu?
[20:32] <Jack_Sparrow> l3dx, Strongly suggest you defrag twice first though
[20:32] <[FT]Alex> magnetron - sounds like a port forwarding problem. are you using a router?
[20:32] <methods> !shortcuts
[20:32] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[20:32] <Yasumoto> marx2k: thanks
[20:32] <Yasumoto> magnetron: really? is that on the wiki?
[20:32] <methods> i'm talking about FN key shortcuts
[20:32] <`David> at the rate i'm here i should just stay here lol
[20:33] <magnetron> [FT]Alex: i have direct access, no router.
[20:33] <abstrak> i want to make my desktop pc a server (web, mail, ssh) and a mythtv backend and frontend... I want compiz to ... what's the best distro choice for all that?
[20:33] <magnetron> Yasumoto: yes
[20:33] <`David> i need some help finding drivers for my broadcom 56k modem for ubuntu
[20:33] <reflexivu> ok... i have an aspire 5102WLMi acer notebook... my internal hdd is split into 3 partitions, from which two are normal usuable windows partitions, and the las one is hidden, fore recovery etc
[20:33] <redneck> could some Ubuntuspecialist tell me how to configure the fan button? my laptop is FSC Amilo Li1718
[20:33] <jim> is there an alsa-firmware package installable on ubuntu? I would like to port it to debian
[20:33] <[FT]Alex> magnetron - what are you downloading? is it on a private tracker you don't have access to? watch out for moviex
[20:33] <`David> i need some help finding drivers for my broadcom 56k modem for ubuntu
[20:33] <magnetron> [FT]Alex: private tracker
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> `David, Probably a softmodem ugh.. good luck
[20:34] <magnetron> [FT]Alex: this is on a public tracker
[20:34] <`David> it is
[20:34] <macogw> reflexivu: its probably just hiding from windows.  i dont think they can truly hide
[20:34] <reflexivu> i wish to instal the ubuntu 7.10 for 64bit amd turion cpu, on an external hdd drive, on usb
[20:34] <l3dx> Jack_Sparrow, ok thanks! :)
[20:34] <jim> broadcom isn't the most supportive either
[20:34] <reflexivu> well
[20:34] <windvogel> abstrak: you shouldn't use a desktop for server purpose...
[20:34] <`David> broadcom BCM4212 V0.90 56K
[20:34] <abstrak> why ? security ?
[20:34] <`David> i cant find ANYTHING
[20:34] <windvogel> abstrak: yes.
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> `David, http://www.debianadmin.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[20:34] <Yasumoto> magnetron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer thanks :D
[20:34] <tek-ops> Hello all
[20:34] <reflexivu> the partition holds my licensed windows copy, with all the drivers and license key
[20:35] <tek-ops> I have a bug report for Ubuntu Dapper LTS 6/06 x64
[20:35] <tek-ops> but I dont know how to submit it
[20:35] <reflexivu> so i do not wish to destroy it or render it unusuable when i install ubuntu
[20:35] <reflexivu> any help?
[20:35] <abstrak> windvogel:  so ubuntu-server ? debian ? i want a debian based distro ...
[20:35] <jim> there should be a package called reportbug
[20:35] <macogw> windvogel: why?
[20:35] <magnetron> tek-ops: use launchpad please
[20:35] <reikalusikka>  how do I remove kubuntu desktop(originally ubuntu gnome)
[20:35] <magnetron> !launchpad | tek-ops
[20:35] <tek-ops> launchpad?
[20:35] <ubotu> tek-ops: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[20:35] <LjL> !bugs | tek-ops
[20:35] <ubotu> tek-ops: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:35] <reflexivu> anybody :|
[20:36] <VeNoM> abstrak, ubuntu is pretty user friendly, and also pretty much takes care of all issues for you
[20:36] <tek-ops> oh right
[20:36] <tek-ops> hah, i remember being impressed with this when i read up on it
[20:36] <macogw> windvogel: is it bad to use a desktop as a server?  aside from that thing where they made gutsy's kernel have panics on boot if you put it on non-PAE hardware?
[20:36] <tek-ops> how did I forgot, sorry, and thanks guys
[20:36] <lastelement0> hey all, i have a dell inspiron e1505 and my wireless is not working.  i followed the HOWTO on the forums yet that did not fix my wireless issue.
[20:36] <magnetron> reflexivu: is it windows XP?
[20:36] <vlt> Hello. Is it possible to use OpenVPN in TAP mode with the generic kernel?
[20:36] <windvogel> abstrak and macogw: because on a server only the services you REALLY NEED should run - nothing else. everything you don't need on a server is a risk
[20:37] <reflexivu> windows vista
[20:37] <[FT]Alex> VeNoM - user friendly as ubuntu is, I still can't see my bloody workgroup :p
[20:37] <reflexivu> really complex recovery system
[20:37] <windvogel> also the xserver with gnome, kde, xfce or what ever...
[20:37] <white_eagle> hello, guys when I try to install a deb package it says "Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache)"
[20:37] <white_eagle> can I fix that?
[20:37] <filthpig> reflexivu, it would be easier for people to reply if you kept your question on one line
[20:37] <abstrak> windvogel:  so ubuntu-server + gnome | kde + mythtv + compiz ? can work all together ?
[20:37] <Goodwill> hey all... any of you have experience with getting IEEE1394 working with a mini-DV?
[20:38] <bastid_raZor> reflexivu; with all dual boots i've ever encountered you'll need the windows cd to do a repair.. windows puts files all over a partition and some of your system files is likely to be erased if you resize your partition
[20:38] <`David> any1 help me find a site for drivers?
[20:38] <magnetron> bastid_raZor: not true
[20:38] <macogw> read what Goodwill said as "firewire"
[20:38] <reflexivu> i know, but my wuestion is reallly large :P
[20:38] <macogw> i think
[20:38] <reflexivu> so prv would be good
[20:38] <macogw> yeah
[20:38] <bastid_raZor> magnetron; with my experience it is. like i stated 'that i've encountered'
[20:38] <Goodwill> oops sorry macogw
[20:38] <Kopfgeldjaeger> yay. just got a shell on a client without portforwarding over  remote ssh port forwarding
[20:39] <jim> reflexivu: got a web site?
[20:39] <spideylinux> lastelement0: what brand of wireless card do you have?
[20:39] <macogw> Goodwill: we might be a bunch of techies but normal names are cool too :P
[20:39] <Goodwill> lol indeed macogw...
[20:39] <windvogel> abstrak: ANY server plus gnome or kde is a no no
[20:39] <lastelement0> spideylinux: broadcom
[20:39] <magnetron> reflexivu: you are advised to make a backup, but in any case i've seen, ubuntu resizes the windows partition just fine
[20:39] <reflexivu> jim: yeah.. why?
[20:39] <windvogel> if you give something on the security
[20:39] <abstrak> windvogel:  ?
[20:39] <windvogel> or hang on the inet...
[20:39] <Goodwill> so... Firewire, anyone?
[20:39] <spideylinux> lastelement0: are you running gutsy?
[20:39] <jim> reflexivu: good :) put your question there on some page... as you get answers or more questions, add them to the page
[20:40] <Ward1983> how can i install ubuntu 7.10 on a partition of my raid0 array, working with a intel ICH8R
[20:40] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles,  i know the command to execute the program but i coudnt find the dicrectory
[20:40] <jim> post url in places like this where you want to try getting help
[20:40] <magnetron> jim: or he could just ask here
[20:40] <lastelement0> spideylinux: yes i am.  i had just done a fresh install, i had dual booted with windows and had it working. but with my fresh install it doesnt work
[20:40] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles,  how can i find the installed directory knowing just the command?
[20:40] <yeonhoo_> NinjaPlimsoles, command to execute that program
[20:41] <magnetron> !enter | yeonhoo_
[20:41] <ubotu> yeonhoo_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[20:41] <jim> magnetron: or whatever he wants. I'm just offering him an additional choice he might not have though about
[20:41] <jim> thought about
[20:41] <spideylinux> lastelement0: I have a similar laptop and had to use the ndiswrapper to have a stable wireless connection
[20:41] <filthpig> reflexivu, make a backup of your Windows install and reformat the hard drive...?
[20:41] <abstrak> windvogel: my uses : a desktop to develop + mythtv 24/24
[20:41] <white_eagle> hello, guys when I try to install a deb package it says "Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache)"
[20:41] <spideylinux> lastelement0: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware
[20:42] <jim> white_eagle: find out what it needs. install those. try again.
[20:43] <white_eagle> jim: no, it does that with ANY package
[20:43] <white_eagle> jim: all dependencies for every package I try are installed
[20:43] <jim> maybe you're mixing?
[20:43] <windvogel> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=security+server+kde&btnG=Search
[20:43] <white_eagle> jim: ?
[20:44] <jim> what's one dependency you see that most attempted installs complain about?
[20:44] <filthpig> white_eagle, I think there's a way to install stand-alone deb packs with apt, have you tried that`
[20:44] <white_eagle> filthpig: I need the newest one
[20:44] <white_eagle> filthpig: pidgin 2.4.0
[20:44] <jim> oh, so you are mixing
[20:44] <white_eagle> I have removed the old one
[20:44] <white_eagle> first
[20:44] <jim> you probably have to backport
[20:44] <yeonhoo_> im trying to remove a program that has been installed from source code. I know a command to execute a program but i dont know how to remove
[20:44] <yeonhoo_> any idea?
[20:45] <white_eagle> ok
[20:45] <white_eagle> I fixed it
[20:45] <white_eagle> with running apt-get update
[20:45] <filthpig> white_eagle, as I said, you can install /stand-alone/ debs with apt, and apt will take care of deps
[20:45] <polter> newest pidgin is available at http://www.getdeb.net/
[20:45] <white_eagle> polter: yes
[20:45] <Dial_tone> are the main video encoding apps multi-threaded? I'm wondering if a quad-core is a better deal than OC'ing a core 2 duo box
[20:45] <white_eagle> polter: I know
[20:45] <yeonhoo_> im trying to remove a program that has been installed from source code. I know a command to execute a program but i dont know how to remove
[20:45] <lastelement0> spideylinux: i followed the steps there and that did not work
[20:46] <Jack_Sparrow> yeonhoo_, You have been given the answer a few times...  INsatalling from outside the repos does have a serious down side
[20:46] <qxxx> hi world
[20:46] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, im back :)
[20:46] <jim> yeonhoo_: find out what it installed, remove all those.
[20:46] <fibres> How do I find out what version of a particular pices of software im running on ubuntu server?
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yeonhoo_, http://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing/
[20:47] <yeonhoo_> jim,  but i cant find a directory that are installed files
[20:47] <jim> maybe "make install > install.log 2>&1" will help
[20:47] <yeonhoo_> Jack_Sparrow,  i installed from source code not from package
[20:47] <Jack_Sparrow> yeonhoo_, You dont need to know that if you follow the direction
[20:47] <havenless> ok. i recompiled alsa-driver, alsa-lib, alsa-utils, edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (6stack-digout), tried all the mixer options and all, still no sound (over spdif)...
[20:47] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: so should i proceed with the install?
[20:47] <backtracker> No package 'glitz-glx' found
[20:48] <havenless> been poking at this for like 2h so far, still no sound :(
[20:48] <backtracker> when installing the b2.gz
[20:48] <chickenFuego> fibres: try "dpkg -l | grep name_of_your_software_package
[20:48] <white_eagle> I love how apt handles packages
[20:48] <jim> yeonhoo_: then read install.log
[20:48] <backtracker> the tar2.bz
[20:48] <prodigel> Hi. I'm trying to compile a rt2561 wifi chipset driver for 2.6.24 kernel (ubuntu 8.04) and I get some errors. the first one is : "error: implicit declaration of function ‘SET_MODULE_OWNER’".
[20:48] <white_eagle> its way better than yum
[20:48] <backtracker> any help
[20:48] <backtracker> ?
[20:48] <white_eagle> !hardy | prodigel
[20:48] <ubotu> prodigel: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:48] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle,  See also aptitude..
[20:48] <chickenFuego> fibres, is it what you need?
[20:49] <white_eagle> prodigel: my guess is thats because hardy isn't really stable yet
[20:49] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205766
[20:49] <prodigel> white_eagle: I think it has something to do with the new kernel version, I've compiled it previously with 2.6.20 and it worked
[20:50] <white_eagle> Jack_Sparrow: what is that for?
[20:50] <`David> lol someone point me to a site where i can dl drivers for my 56k broadcom modem?
[20:50] <Jack_Sparrow> white_eagle, I like apt-get but wanted you to see a better alternative
[20:51] <joeamined> hi
[20:51] <joeamined> is it possible to build a table of contents in abiword ?
[20:51] <qxxx> hi! can anyone tell me how can i launch a program automatically after a system start? (like pidgin)..
[20:52] <joeamined> qxxx: add the program in System>Preferences>Session>Startup Programs
[20:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[20:52] <qxxx> thanks!!
[20:52] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot
[20:52] <Bearcat_work> hey folks. I'm running sourcemage gnu/linux. No one i my distro rooms seems to know the answer to this one. I am trying to get eve running on a 64-bit system. It seems to want a lsb_release. Looking over the web page for that i see a number of large packages. I'm not sure where i can grab that file from. Does anyone know what i speak of?
[20:52] <qxxx> :)
[20:53] <XceII> ok Jacc-sparrow, got it running, thanks
[20:54] <XceII> jack
[20:54] <[FT]Alex> wah! I just hit windows+r accidentally and it zoomed in! how do I zoom out?
[20:54] <[FT]Alex> oh nm
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bearcat_work, lsb_release -a works in ubuntu if that is what you mean.. it returns the current distro you are running.
[20:54] <Jack_Sparrow> [FT]Alex, What is the command to unzoom
[20:54] <qxxx> damn, me too WIn+R, now what?
[20:54] <VeNoM-work> lol
[20:54] <[FT]Alex> it's windows+1
[20:55] <cjae> Ok any ati ppl around, I have great working xorg.conf for a nvidia card and would like to set it up for tv out on an ati carded machine. I should only have to change the driver from nvidia to ati and set the proper pci address eg.  BusID  "PCI:X:X:X" to whatever new machine says and load the proper and edit it for ati modules instead, right?
[20:55] <[FT]Alex> or 2 or 3 for various zoom levels
[20:55] <qxxx> cool, thx
[20:55] <HighNo> Hi, while trying to update from gutsy to hardy (update-manager -d) I think I have a problem as the update-manager wants to remove ~100 packages, some of them being xrandr, xmodmap, xman, xhost, xkill, system-config-printer, openoffice.orgm, gpgp... that does not sound sane to me, should I update anyway?
[20:55] <Bearcat_work> Jack_Sparrow: thanks. What i need to figure out is how to install it on my (non-rpm using) system. So i'd really like the app and it's associated files in a tarball. But to start with here: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Downloads  it is not at all clear to me which one of these contains lsb_release
[20:55] <cjae> *proper modules
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> !info lsb_release
[20:56] <ubotu> Package lsb_release does not exist in gutsy
[20:56] <BizMan> hey whats the best way to watch vides and or listen to music from any machine in the world on kubuntu> is it through samba and ssh or a media server like jinzora?
[20:57] <Bearcat_work> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, thats what gets me
[20:57] <VeNoM-work> BizMan, twonkymedia. let me find you a link to the tutorial
[20:57] <white_eagle> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[20:57] <white_eagle> bye
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Bearcat_work, It isnt a package...
[20:57] <VeNoM-work> BizMan, http://scrambled.wordpress.com/2008/01/06/howto-stream-music-pictures-and-movies-to-an-xbox-360-with-linux/
[20:57] <Bearcat_work> BizMan: you might try Ampache. It's been around for 12 years and is well developes
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> whitman, Thanks for reading that.. good eh
[20:57] <VeNoM-work> it says xbox360 but the server works for anything to connect
[20:57] <cjae> here is the working xorg http://pastebin.ca/930803
[20:57] <felix_> oin #ubuntu-de
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> `David, http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/07/ubuntu-plus-dell-equals-better-support.html     may be helpful
[20:58] <Bearcat_work> Jack_Sparrow: right. I'm just needing to get the command 'lsb_release' to do something on my computer so Eve will start up.
[20:58] <BizMan> venomwork.. now this doesnt make it flash video or aynthign right
[20:58] <BizMan> i can just stream stuff from vlc?
[20:58] <cjae> the ati fglrx module is already loaded and direct rendering enabled
[20:58] <VeNoM-work> no BizMan, you can stream using this program
[20:59] <cvasilak> anybody using netspeed_applet2. It wrongly reports the download and upload speed. Anybody having the same problem
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !info lsb
[20:59] <ubotu> lsb (source: lsb): Linux Standard Base 3.1 support package. In component main, is extra. Version 3.1-23.1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 13 kB, installed size 40 kB
[20:59] <hikro> like free sotware! ;p
[20:59] <[FT]Alex> oh oh, so I just connected to a windows computer by typing the ip, and its name is "<IP_ADDRESS> on (null)". Is this why I can't browse my workgroup? does anyone know how to fix that?
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bearcat_work, See that...?
[21:00] <VeNoM-work> afaik BizMan you can't stream using vlc
[21:00] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; i use it.. you have to set it to which Network device you're using .. mine is eth0 .
[21:00] <Linux_Fresher> Hello again! .. currently in Live CD session .. starting my Ubuntu installation to Hard Drive   [ watch over me you Geeks !! ]
[21:00] <`David> Jack_Sparrow
[21:01] <iNeo> Linux_Fresher: good luck
[21:01] <backtracker> anyone to help me with CairoDock installation?
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> `David, What... arrrggggh
[21:01] <HighNo> VeNoM-work: you can. The server part of vlc will do that
[21:01] <cvasilak> bastid_raZor, I selected ath0(my wireless connection) but its still the same :(
[21:01] <VeNoM-work> HighNo, I was not aware
[21:01] <`David> Jack_Sparrow would any of the drivers on http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ work for my broadcom modem?
[21:01] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; you also have the option to use KB or kbit.. those will surely throw you off if you're not careful
[21:01] <chickenFuego> hi, how do I start netspeed, cvasilak ??
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, should be a no brainer.. what is the prob
[21:01] <Bearcat_work> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i did. Now, i could grab that on my kubuntu laptop and install it, then copy over the files to my main machine. Of course i need a 64-bit version and my kubuntu laptop is 32...*sigh*
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> `David, yes, but speed will be limited
[21:01] <anna> hi
[21:01] <fibres> Can anyone tell me how to stop ubuntu from looking to the install cd when running apt-get?
[21:01] <Linux_Fresher> iNeo: currently because of little low free space on HD, assigning 5 GBs to ubuntu .. that wont be a problem right .. because  website requirement says 2 GB , documentation on CD says 10 GB .. lot of difference
[21:02] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: well I got this error at TEH 'By compiling it' step
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> fibres, easy.. system admin software sources and uncheck cd
[21:02] <iNeo> Linux_Fresher: 2 is the minimum
[21:02] <chickenFuego> it is not in system->preferences->Sessions, cvasilak ...
[21:02] <backtracker> No package 'glitz-glx' found
[21:02] <Linux_Fresher> iNeo: so 5 GBs is ok ?
[21:02] <fibres> Jack_Sparrow, im running ubuntu server with no gui.
[21:02] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, Why compile something that has a drb
[21:02] <cvasilak> chickenFuego, http://www.gnome.org/projects/netspeed/
[21:02] <iNeo> Linux_Fresher: for basic install I say yes
[21:02] <backtracker> drb? or deb?
[21:03] <davee> If setting up encrypted LVM from the Ubuntu Alternate Install CD, can one change the passphrase at a later date, or is it set in stone?
[21:03] <bastid_raZor> fibres; edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD portion of it
[21:03] <Linux_Fresher> iNeo: btw i am as fresh in linux as they come .. BOX PACKED .. so when you say for "basic", is that the one i am doing ? later on if it says "Advanced" i will be totally stumped
[21:03] <BizMan> how do i streem video
[21:03] <fibres> bastid_raZor, thanks
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> fibres, sudo nano /ect/apt/sources.list  rem out the cd
[21:03] <BizMan> venom?>
[21:03] <brophat> if I watch a youtube video, and then after the video is done, if I leave any firefox window open and I attempt to listen to streaming audio with xmms it says sound is busy.
[21:03] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: so I just download .deb file and install it that's all?
[21:03] <VeNoM-work> sorry, I'm at work, had something to do
[21:03] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, yes
[21:04] <iNeo> Linux_Fresher: Don't select to many packages, you can add them later
[21:04] <backtracker> and where do it install it?
[21:04] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, my / partition is 5 gb and there's no problem, prolly got 3 or 4 gb in use.. then again, I have 240 gb on /home :)
[21:04] <VeNoM-work> okay BizMan, if you follow the link I gave you, it will help you to install and set up the program. once installed, you can connect to it from any other computer, and you can stream from the linux computer
[21:04] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, Do you want a link or do you have it.. `David  may be able to help too.. :)
[21:04] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[21:04] <VeNoM-work> there are other options out there, but I have found that this workes the easiest for me
[21:04] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  erm .. so home has to be another drive than the OS installation drive? =/
[21:04] <Guido> salut?
[21:05] <brophat> anyone know of a way to get around this annoying thing? right now what I have to do is close all firefox windows and then the audio will stream
[21:05] <filthpig> no, but it's recommended
[21:05] <iancp> is there a way to use see a physical hard drive in a virtualbox guest os?
[21:05] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> brophat, change the audio device in xmms' preference
[21:05] <backtracker> it's ugly
[21:06] <backtracker> I have a black area out of the Dock
[21:06] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  ok before i get confused and drop the plan, i have one 80 GB hard drive .. 13 GBs free .. can give 5 gbs to Ubuntu  .. second hard disk is 40 GB divided as 20 gb and 20 gb .. filled with windowz programs and videos movies etc .. cannot be emptied or used right now
[21:06] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, all I'm saying is that it'll work just fine, as long as you dont intend to save tons of stuff on the partition :)
[21:06] <iancp> or if not even a physical folder of a drive
[21:06] <brophat> [Hardy]TuTUXG hmm ok any idea what to change it to?
[21:06] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: I have a black area out of the Dock
[21:06] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig: :) that would do
[21:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> brophat, u have to try each one, dont know which one is working for u
[21:07] <bastid_raZor> iancp; i use vmware but yes it is.. in vmware i set a shared folder then in side the guest os i goto network and find it there.
[21:07] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, easy to fix...  go into the settings and try a different theme..
[21:07] <brophat> ok thanks
[21:07] <chickenFuego> cvasilak, what do you use to compare? I would suggest to run sudo iptraf.
[21:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> brophat, there shouldn't be many options anyways
[21:07] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, and you CAN read/write on NTFS/FAT disks from ubuntu, so there's no big problem..
[21:07] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  okies !! clicking on the install icon !! hopefully this chat doesnt get stopped while installing .. will u be around for next 30 mins or so ? [ how long it would take for this install with default basic packeges ]
[21:08] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: yep, I've tried but still
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, It is in there, keep looking
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl, everyone play nice...
[21:08] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, depends on your hw, but I'd say about 20-30 mins or so.. And everything will work as it should during install :)
[21:08] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  oh NTFS cant be used to write .. thats what the CD documentation said .. so ubuntu loads NTFS as read only .. fat32 is no problem for linux  [all this from documentation that comes with cd]
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Linux_Fresher, You can write to ntfs...
[21:09] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  cool !! but now remember !! u r my basic support pillar !! dont run away please for next 1/2 hour
[21:09] <cvasilak> chickenFuego, well when firefox say 110kb/sec and netspeed2 applet says 466kb/sec. Is this reasonable?
[21:09] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, yes it can, I've done it several times. That should be default from 7.10..
[21:10] <cvasilak> chickenFuego, i have only firefox open no bittorent no streaming nothing
[21:10] <Linux_Fresher> Jack_Sparrow: but .. but .. the documentation that came with CD cant be wrong .. i can copy paste it if u want
[21:10] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; are the update times the same? if netspeed updates slower or fast it'll report different speeds
[21:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[21:10] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[21:10] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, I'll hang around, but I don't expect any problems for your install
[21:10] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; i have mine set at 500 millisecond
[21:10] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  thanks m8
[21:10] <brophat> [Hardy]TuTUXG seems to have worked thanks.
[21:11] <filthpig> np
[21:11] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; and mine isn't the same as firefox either..
[21:11] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> brophat, np
[21:11] <backtracker> Jack_Sparrow: wanna see a Print Screen of my Cairo-Dock?
[21:11] <brophat> [Hardy]TuTUXG turns out I only had one option called "alternate device"
[21:11] <Jack_Sparrow> backtracker, not really... off to lunch
[21:11] <bastid_raZor> backtracker; i would.. i use Avant and would like to compare
[21:11] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> brophat, that's reasonable
[21:12] <backtracker> bastid_raZor: mmkay, wait I'll upload it
[21:13] <bastid_raZor> backtracker; /msg me with the url please
[21:13] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  just before i start, could we clear the disparity about NTFS please? how can be the documentation that came with this downloaded iso image CD is wrong ? its downloaded from a very proper source given on www.ubuntu.com .. no issues there .. i mean its not a fake ubuntu installation i think
[21:13] <Stonekeeper> hi.  How do i do it?
[21:13] <cvasilak> bastid_raZor, Ok  i set it to 500ms but it doesn't work firefox says 172kb/s and netspeed2 reports 420kb/sec
[21:13] <backtracker> bastid_raZor: mmkay
[21:13] <[T]an1> anyone here using innotek virtual box?
[21:13] <xim> if no but vmware works good
[21:14] <tetety> !compiz
[21:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[21:14] <mvsn> Would anyone know of a good link to getting a 8800GT working in Gutsy? Tried so many tutorials and still not workie.. (q6600 intel) 64bit.. any help would be appreciated
[21:14] <[T]an1> virtualbox=free
[21:14] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; in preferences do you have show bits/s (b/s) instead of bytes (B/s) checked or unchecked?
[21:14] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, it's probably just a slip up when updating the documentation from 7.04, ntfs-write wasn't enabled back then
[21:14] <cvasilak> bastid_raZor, I found this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=447669 probably some other people have the same problem
[21:15] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  ah ! np .. starting installation now
[21:15] <cvasilak> bastid_raZor, bytes
[21:15] <xim> if im trying to set up my apache server, where in the unix directory structure is a good place to put the server files?
[21:15] <xim> like html content
[21:16] <chickenFuego> xim, by default apache will use /var/www you don t like it?
[21:16] <jorgp> xim: I have always seen /var/www
[21:16] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; i don't have that option checked.. and i'm using version 0.13 .. possibly you're having the same issues as those others.
[21:16] <zumo> hi freaks
[21:17] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, I've used the ntfs-3g driver for, well, at least a year, and never had any problems reading or writing to ntfs.. but there's no guarantee, though, so be sure to back-up your essentials from the ntfs drives as a precation
[21:17] <cvasilak> bastid_raZor, :( thanks anyway :)
[21:17] <backtracker> bastid_raZor: priv
[21:18] <bastid_raZor> cvasilak; good luck :\
[21:18] <bastid_raZor> backtracker; thanks
[21:18] <xim> ah ok, i hadnt started the install yet
[21:18] <xim> but thanks thats good
[21:19] <zippytech> is there a way to see the boot messages during boot,
[21:19] <chickenFuego> zippytech, try ctrl-alt-F1
[21:19] <zippytech> remove the splash screen
[21:19] <zippytech> cool
[21:19] <eatatjoes2> im still having problems with GRUB anyone good with installing Ubuntu onto an external HD (with Windows on the main internal one)?
[21:20] <Linux_Fresher> starting drive partitioner .. its massively going through my hard drives i think
[21:20] <test3r> does anyone use 7Zip to extract multi-part archives, here, in Linux? I'm trying to figure out the MAN page for 7zip & there is a cryptic switch. Does anyone know how to read the switch combinations (or what is it called) in Linux?
[21:21] <zippytech> nice thanks
[21:21] <yacc> Just wonder if LVM is an option, especially if one wants to use one of the volumes for a LUKS container?
[21:21] <darkblueB> So I want to install the recent JAVA on my 7.10 machine.. one of the prerequisites is "gcc base 3.3".. The install coudn't possibly disturb my  gcc 4.13, now could it ?!?
[21:21] <chickenFuego> teat3r: 7Zip --help
[21:21] <chickenFuego> teat3r: 7Zip -help
[21:21] <chickenFuego> teat3r: 7Zip -h
[21:22] <Ozymandius> Anyone watch Unstarved in here?
[21:22] <fireoflife77> greets peeps
[21:23] <peeps[work]> -_-
[21:23] <fireoflife77> i have an ubuntu upgrade x server issue.. i'm patient though.. thanks
[21:23] <test3r> ChickenF > yes I've read that info in the Man page. its the first switch that I need for a multipart archive I think. it is "  -ai[r[-|0]]{@listfile|!wildcard}: Include archives ". What is that supposed to mean?
[21:23] <Linux_Fresher> filthpig:  just till the install procedure can i please pm you ? chat is not full screen and is scrolling real fast
[21:24] <Ozymandius> You all know that Ubuntu blows right?
[21:24] <Ozymandius> Gentoo is so much better
[21:24] <Urban[0]> hahha
[21:24] <Ozymandius> I mean, things actually work
[21:24] <Rods_Tiger> what arepeopleusingas anIRC clientother thanthe'BuddyList'application?
[21:24] <BizMan> guys whats the best way watch my movies on my home machine from any pc in the world?
[21:24] <fireoflife77> yeah
[21:24] <macogw> Ozymandius: and takes 3 days to get them all compiled and running..yeah great
[21:24] <LjL> Rods_Tiger, i have Konversation, which even lets me type spaces
[21:24] <Ozymandius> Everything you think should work in Ubuntu just dies
[21:24] <fireoflife77> but i already installed it..and i need it to work nevertheless
[21:24] <neville_> Strange
[21:25] <Ozymandius> macogw: Really? I can get a system up in 3 hours max
[21:25] <fireoflife77> maybe you're in the wrong chan ozy
[21:25] <Rods_Tiger> I typethespacesbut mostofthetimethey don'tturnout.#
[21:25] <neville_> Only 3 hours?
[21:25] <Ozymandius> No, it says ubuntu in here
[21:25] <wwalker> I can find most any desktop appearance font,etc. setting.  where do I find the # of desktops setting please?
[21:25] <Ozymandius> Yeah
[21:25] <Urban[0]> Rods_Tiger: time for a new keyboard
[21:25] <Ozymandius> 3 hours
[21:25] <macogw> Ozymandius: you have no gui then huh?
[21:25] <Ozymandius> ion
[21:25] <Ozymandius> It's gui
[21:25] <Urban[0]> he might just be a gentoo god. who knows?
[21:25] <macogw> Ozymandius: unless youre using sabayon or have a supercomputer, no way you're compiling everything in that time...
[21:25] <Ozymandius> No matter what OS you run, you need ion
[21:25] <filthpig> Linux_Fresher, sure, but I'm on the phone atm
[21:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Ozymandius, Please stop trolling
[21:25] <Rods_Tiger> yes.Thisoneisaspareone- aMicrosoftNatural one
[21:25] <fireoflife77> Hey i have a legitimate support question!
[21:25] <fireoflife77> thanks for the Gentoo plug ozy
[21:25] <fireoflife77> i have a liveCD..i'll check it
[21:26] <havenless> ok, i'm tired of wasting time with alsa
[21:26] <live_CD> I just bought a used laptop, and .. it came with Office 2007.  before I wipe it and install Ubuntu is there a way to get what the product key was for that in case it may come in handy in the future?
[21:26] <macogw> Ozymandius: lets have a race.  my apt, your emerge. which do you think will be faster?
[21:26] <Ozymandius> macogw: Default install now isn't compile, just install new things with compile
[21:26] <havenless> this stupid HDA audio just won't work
[21:26] <Rods_Tiger> andit's a foreign language onefrom a foreign country
[21:26] <havenless> would OSS fix the issue?
[21:26] <eatatjoes2> im  having problems with GRUB anyone good with installing Ubuntu onto an external HD (with Windows on the main internal one)?
[21:26] <Ozymandius> macogw: Probably apt, since I don't even use emerge
[21:26] <macogw> Ozymandius: O_o thats not even gentoo then....thats like...O_o dang dan's gonna be going for LFS soon
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> havenless, Spend a few minutes in #Alsa  before you give up
[21:27] <havenless> k, thx
[21:27] <Ozymandius> I use paludis
[21:27] <Ozymandius> Alternative package manager
[21:27] <macogw> Ozymandius: so basically not gentoo at all, really
[21:27] <Ozymandius> Actually, its completely gentoo, uses the same tree
[21:27] <Brian323> Hello
[21:27] <macogw> Ozymandius: all linux uses the same upstream sources
[21:27] <Ozymandius> I just use a slightly different manager - it's like the difference between synaptic and apt
[21:28] <Ozymandius> Same thing, just different viewing
[21:28] <fireoflife77> I have a gateway laptop. "600YG2" installed Linux ubuntu-laptop 2.6.10-16-386#2.  After I upgraded to the "newest version" My Xserver is broken: says "Failed to start the X Server... view server output" ?.. using a ATI Mobility RADEON 9000 graphics card.
[21:28] <fireoflife77> any help would be greatly appreciated
[21:28] <Rods_Tiger> the space bar seems to work if I use my left hand and  hit it from the left side,  but that's tedious having to stop and do that  after each word. eg, this line took  ages to type
[21:28] <Ozymandius> Anyway, I'm in Ubuntu, I should talk more about that
[21:28] <fireoflife77> good show!
[21:29] <Ozymandius> What's new in the latest distro that's good?
[21:29] <neville_> fireoflife77 Try reinstalling your video driver?
[21:29] <fireoflife77> um..okay..I think i did that a couple times..
[21:29] <fireoflife77> fglx
[21:29] <neville_> :/
[21:29] <fireoflife77> the proprietary or the open source?
[21:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Ozymandius, Please take discussions to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[21:29] <Corty> hi
[21:29] <xim> this room is great, thanks guys
[21:29] <neville_> Switch to vesa and see if you get at least 2D display
[21:29] <fireoflife77> all i get is the command prompt on recover mode
[21:29] <Ozymandius> Jack_Sparrow: Sorry, forgot this was the support channel
[21:30] <fireoflife77> i tried reconfiguring xserver-xorg
[21:30] <czmyru> witam
[21:30] <czmyru> dawno mnie nie bylo:)
[21:30] <neville_> Boot normally
[21:30] <fireoflife77> neville: how do I swittch to Vesa?
[21:30] <fireoflife77> ok
[21:30] <neville_> And when it dumps you on the black screen, control + alt + F1?
[21:30] <neville_> So it switches you to a login prompt
[21:30] <Brian323> How can I change the user level with INIT  in gOS 2.0 ?
[21:31] <fireoflife77> ok i'm getting there
[21:31] <chickenFuego> Brian323, in /etc/inittab?
[21:31] <Brian323> or does anyone have a spare minute or too for tech support lol in PM ?
[21:31] <taime1> nvidia-settings allows me to adjust digital vibrance but it will not save when i logout.. what gives?
[21:32] <Viden> is there a support channel for evolution ?
[21:32] <neville_> I think you need to change it as a higher power taime1
[21:32] <taime1> neville: oh yeah, duh..
[21:32] <fireoflife77> neville: ok i'm at the login prompt
[21:32] <neville_> :P
[21:32] <taime1> it saves to xorg.conf after all right?
[21:32] <Brian323> chickenFuego, I can't seem to switch to a userlevel that lets me install the NVIDIA driver
[21:33] <neville_> Yes
[21:33] <Viden> taime1:  as long as you click the save or apply button .. yes
[21:33] <taime1> yeah.. i am.. just not as root
[21:33] <Viden> mine will not save settings unless you do it as root ..... sudo nvidia-settings
[21:33] <neville_> fireoflife77 login, do you know if you have a text editor like, say, nano?
[21:33] <Squawk> Brian323, what exactly is a userlevel? root? sudo apt-get?
[21:33] <taime1> k, where can i discover the problem that i am having: when i logout, it takes forever to log back in, sometimes it wont at all...
[21:34] <neville_> Or maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will suffice
[21:34] <fireoflife77> yeah..i forget my pass for root (DOH!) i set this up..as a test install..with easy user/pass for user..but forgot my root pass
[21:34] <neville_> Use that first, try setting the driver to vesa, then startx
[21:35] <Brian323> Userlevel ??  I think it's like #1 is root, no xserver 3 is with xserver.  They seem to change from distro to distro.  I'm just learning myself.
[21:35] <neville_> You shouldn't need root if you use sudo?
[21:35] <nickrud> Brian323: hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[21:35] <fireoflife77> i can do the reconfigure  if i start up in recovery mode
[21:35] <fireoflife77> i'll try that
[21:35] <fireoflife77> thanks!
[21:35] <Darkmystere> Could some one help me i cannot get compiz-dev package to install. it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58677/
[21:35] <spideylinux> plus you can change the root password with sudo
[21:35] <nickrud> Brian323: forgot the start on the end of the last invoke-rc.d gdm start command
[21:35] <Flannel> spideylinux: But theres no reason to.
[21:35] <Squawk> Brian323, you mean runlevel. And I dont think you should have to change run level to install anything
[21:35] <chickenFuego> fireoflife77, try this: "sudo su" and then "passwd"
[21:35] <fireoflife77> it tells me i have the wron pass..when i try to run any sudo command...but i know my pass is right!
[21:36] <fireoflife77> ok thanks chicken Fuego
[21:36] <fireoflife77> brb
[21:36] <Copies> NEW UBUNTU SKILLZ: FIREFOX CANT PROPERLY USE GMAIL. GG PWND
[21:36] <Flannel> fireoflife77: the "sudo" password is your user password.  Root's password is different entirely (and not-set unless you did it, which you really should think twice about doing)
[21:36] <nickrud> what's that factoid, if you tell someone how to set up root be prepared to provide support
[21:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !noroot
[21:36] <ubotu> We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[21:37] <nickrud> fireoflife77: sudo -i is better than setting a root password
[21:37] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow to the rescue, again!
[21:37] <komputes> what are some examples of support issues after putting a password to the root account?
[21:37] <nickrud> fireoflife77: or at least better in terms of the ubuntu security model
[21:37] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud, Im here just trying to down some lunch
[21:38] <Flannel> komputes: Forgetting it
[21:38] <prince_jammys> here
[21:38] <komputes> Flannel: that would be quite an issue... wouldn't you have to spend days running jack to get the password back?
[21:38] <Flannel> komputes: It also adds an extra few minutes where we have to help, and then you reveal that you've set a root password, and we have to do stuff different.
[21:38] <nickrud> komputes: someone forgetting which terminal they've been working as root in (say /etc)  and running rm , meaning to do that in a terminal somewhere in home. A common new user scenario
[21:39] <prince_jammys> how do you *unset* the root password?
[21:39] <Brian323> Squawk.. yes.  I mean runlevel... thanks... err.. It seems I have to be in root without and xserver running to install the NVIDIA driver
[21:39] <Brian323> Squawk.. yes I mean runlevel.. thanks.   It seems I have to be in root WITHOUT an xserver running in order to install the NVIDIA driver.
[21:39] <Flannel> prince_jammys: sudo passwd -l
[21:39] <Flannel> prince_jammys: (thats a lowercase L)
[21:39] <prince_jammys> Flannel: thank you sir
[21:39] <nickrud> Brian323: hit clt-alt-f2, login. run  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop. do your nivida stuff, using sudo. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start to restart X . ctl-alt-f7 to get back to gui, if needed
[21:39] <prince_jammys> Flannel: or ma'am :)
[21:39] <Viden> Does anyone know about using Evolution on exchange ?
[21:40] <komputes> Flannel: wouldn't you need to specify a user like sudo passwd -l root
[21:40] <Brian323> THanks nickrud, I'll try that.
[21:40] <gafatoa> hello guys ! does anyone know how is determined the default graphic mode (i mean the one seted up uner X after boot) ?
[21:41] <markl__> is 40 MB / sec a decent transfer rate for a hard drive?  it is a set of 4 old 250G raid disks copying to another set of 4 new 750G disks
[21:41] <komputes> gafatoa: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:41] <markl__> not sure if i should be happy or sad about that one
[21:41] <fireoflife77> ooooh! maybe there is no password! lol
[21:42] <fireoflife77> that's wierd..i set my password and user as ubuntu and it still don't work
[21:42] <fireoflife77>  i'll try again..i just want to get x to work
[21:42] <slipttees> yo
[21:42] <Flannel> komputes, prince_jammys, you're correct.  sudo passwd -l root
[21:42] <fireoflife77> don't need to mess with root and stuff
[21:42] <flowOver> so i have btnx to make the scroll wheel on my mouse work
[21:42] <markl__> hdparm says 100MB/sec
[21:42] <prince_jammys> Flannel: yeah i had assumed that
[21:42] <greasy_leftwing> where to for advice on evolution mail software?
[21:43] <prince_jammys> Flannel: it's the -l i didn't know about
[21:43] <flowOver> only thing is it only works when i turn the computer on while the mouse is switched on
[21:43] <slipttees> BIOS Bug #B1(49435000) found !
[21:43] <Karsyth> can anybody help me with this error...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58678/?
[21:43] <slipttees> please help
[21:43] <Karsyth> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58678/
[21:43] <Karsyth> first link bad, sorry
[21:43] <gafatoa> komputes, I've looked in it and search around the web: if the xorg defines different modes which one is "chosen" on startup ?
[21:44] <flowOver> if the mouse is turned off anytime while ubuntu is running, the scroll wheel won't engage it's different modes nor be recognized as a button when i push it
[21:44] <flowOver> (yes i turn it back on again)
[21:44] <komputes> gafatoa: ah I see what your saying, let me look into it - Default Resolution
[21:44] <flowOver> is there somehow i can refresh btnx to detect the mouse again, rather than reboot?
[21:44] <slipttees> ??
[21:44] <greasy_leftwing> is there somewhere I can go to specifically? (Evolution mail)
[21:44] <gafatoa> yes, sorry ... my poor frenglish ...
[21:44] <Karsyth> can anyone help me figure out why im getting this error ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58678/   ??
[21:45] <fireoflife77> ok thanks all the chan!
[21:45] <jonathan_> I accidentally got rid of my desktop. How do I show desktop?
[21:45] <fireoflife77> didn't need to set any passowrd stuff in the end..i got the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg working
[21:45] <fireoflife77> so i should choose VESA?
[21:45] <fireoflife77> i'm at "Configuring xserver-xorg
[21:45] <greasy_leftwing> np, got it
[21:46] <jonathan_> Can someone tell me how to "Show desktop?"
[21:46] <jonathan_> I unchecked the box
[21:47] <komputes> gafatoa: in your xorg.conf file do you have a line which look like:
[21:47] <komputes> Modes "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[21:47] <markl__> jonathan_: there is a gnome bar applet that does "Show Desktop"
[21:47] <markl__> jonathan_: right click on the bar and add to panel
[21:47] <fireoflife77> don't know.haven't looked at xorg.conf yet
[21:47] <Karsyth> anyone good with installing wine? im getting this issue http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58678/
[21:47] <slipttees> BIOS Bug #B1(49435000) found ! ?
[21:47] <jonathan_> how do I find the gnome bar?
[21:47] <Sharpie> i'm trying to perform a certain operation on all my mp3 files, now, my command is as follows: "find -P ~/Music/ -name "*.mp3" -exec a2mp3 -d %h '{}' \;". according to the find man pages, %h is the path to the file, only problem is that it doesn't work (creates a folder called h at my home dir).
[21:47] <fireoflife77> laptop froze...rebooting..
[21:47] <komputes> jonathan_: right click a panel bar
[21:47] <gafatoa> komputes, got this one: Option         "metamodes" "DFP: 1680x1050 +0+0, TV: 1024x768 +0+0;DFP: 1024x768 +0+0, TV: 1024x768 +0+0"
[21:47] <slipttees> laptop error in boot!
[21:47] <flowOver> to sum up, my mouse's scroll wheel and buttons will only work properly if the mouse is turned on before ubuntu starts up.  if it is turned on while ubuntu is already started, it only works as standard mouse
[21:48] <gnychis> how can i get trackerd to stop eating my CPU?
[21:48] <Llewxam> hey guys... how can i get flash to run well on opera? to explain: installed the codecs/plugins but i can't stream vids off youtube and such.
[21:48] <fireoflife77> busy chan today! i'll bow out..i have to go run an errand..i'll be back in about half an hour
[21:48] <fireoflife77> peace!
[21:48] <komputes> gafatoa: ooo, tricky, i would make a backup copy and remove the modes you don't want as default, or try to rearrange them
[21:48] <jonathan_> No, I literally hid the desktop.
[21:48] <fireoflife77> thanks for all the help peoples!
[21:48] <Copies> Can someone tell me how to make the fonts larger in firefox before my eyes die irl? >> http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1eu6.png
[21:48] <fireoflife77> blessings!