[00:04] <Freeder> Hello. I moved a hard drive to a new machine. GRUB menu comes up fine, but when I choose the install (or recovery mode) it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Alt-F1,2,etc does not bring up a terminal. What could be the error?
[00:05] <daftykins> Freeder: a hard disk with an existing install would not have an install option, what do you mean?
[00:07] <Freeder> s/install/kernel
[00:08] <Freeder> menu option
[00:09] <daftykins> Freeder: what hardware elements change between each? try this one out...
[00:09] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Freeder
[00:09] <Freeder> I edited the grub command to include nomodeset, noapic, apci=off
[00:10] <Freeder> (or whatever exact spelling is) ... no success
[00:10] <daftykins> Freeder: can you explain the hardware between each?
[00:11] <Freeder> Two totally different machines.. what are you looking for in particular?
[00:11] <daftykins> so CPU different, graphics different?
[00:11] <daftykins> how bad are we talking :D
[00:12] <Freeder> yes.
[00:12] <Freeder> all the above.
[00:12] <Freeder> assume everything has changed, because it has
[00:12] <daftykins> still both 64-bit capable processors though i assume :>
[00:12] <daftykins> if it's a 64-bit install
[00:13] <daftykins> what version is the install, also?
[00:13] <Freeder> actually, both 32bit
[00:13] <Freeder> 14.04
[00:13] <daftykins> Freeder: have you tested a live session from USB?
[00:13] <Freeder> live CD wont boot properly either... how can I tell it to skip the GUI?
[00:14] <Freeder> heh ^^
[00:14] <Freeder> I get command line for a moment or two, then the screen starts blinking
[00:14] <Freeder> replaced with a mouse, on/off/on/off
[00:14] <Freeder> (mouse cursor)
[00:15] <Freeder> banging alt-f2 flashes command line for a second, then back to blinking screen/mouse cursor
[00:15] <daftykins> Freeder: that's interesting. what hardware? have you reduced the system to the minimal required to run and tried booting live then?
[00:15] <Freeder> dual 2.8ghz xeons, I think
[00:15] <daftykins> sorry what *graphics hardware that should've been
[00:15] <daftykins> server you say
[00:16] <Freeder> yes, its a 2U HP DLsomething or other
[00:16] <Freeder> DL380?
[00:17] <cagri_> hello i need help, my unity starts crashing when using spread view..
[00:18] <daftykins> Freeder: yeah there are many generations of the same model #
[00:18] <Freeder> G4, I think
[00:18] <daftykins> what's the RAM?
[00:18] <Freeder> 3gb
[00:18] <daftykins> ouch
[00:18] <Loshki> Freeder: Do you have a 12.04 live cd you can try?
[00:18] <Loshki> daftykins: ouch? Ram snob...
[00:19] <Freeder> Loshki: perhaps... what would that change?
[00:19] <daftykins> Loshki: welcome to 2014
[00:19] <boxmein> don't ask. say I installed wubi-ubuntu 14.04 on D:\, I can access C:\ on nautilus but not D:\, wat do
[00:20] <OerHeks> Freeder, why not try 64 bit?
[00:20] <Freeder> OerHeks: because I dont have a 64 bit proceessor in the machine
[00:20] <daftykins> sorry, i don't touch anything WUBI with a bargepole.
[00:20] <OerHeks> boxmein, wubi is not supported with 14.04
[00:20] <Loshki> Freeder: it would verify the hardware. And allow you to do a backup and scratch-install, which I think you may need to do, depending on how clever you are...
[00:20] <Freeder> Loshki: why not 14.04 is what i meant
[00:21] <Freeder> interesting... I just popped the drive back into the old one (after stripping out the other drives for other reasons) and it said a UUID drive was missing... is it possible it is silently error'ing while GRUB is looking for that drive? Reviewing the GRUB commands at the boot menu, there was no reference to it
[00:21] <daftykins> Freeder: are you sure it's a 32-bit only xeon 0o
[00:21] <Freeder> well, I popped in a 64bit install and it yelled at me
[00:22] <Freeder> so Im' assuming its 32bit
[00:22] <daftykins> heh
[00:22] <Loshki> Freeder: oh, I found 14.04 unstable on my own hardware and had to revert to 12.04...
[00:23] <Freeder> fudge all. I think the HD is a 64bit install. This machine is even older than the one I'm moving it to
[00:23] <boxmein> why's it in the installer then ;_; OerHeks
[00:23] <Freeder> sigh.
[00:24] <Freeder> ok then... rsync'ing to a 32bit disk isn't an option then, is it
[00:24] <Freeder> of course not.
[00:24] <Freeder> I hate this place.
[00:25] <Loshki> Freeder: denial, anger, bargaining, acceptance. Welcome to stage 4. What's on this disk anyway?
[00:25] <CapitalSigma> hey all
[00:25] <cagri_> well, can no one help?
[00:25] <optrusty> Hi
[00:25] <Freeder> Production server.
[00:25] <function9> hi
[00:26] <optrusty> Hi
[00:26] <Freeder> There's no easy way to xfer all of this then, is there
[00:26] <opSiri> Hi! :D
[00:26] <Freeder> I can't think of any way but to reinstall all the binaries
[00:26] <optrusty> !sudo say Hi!
[00:26] <optrusty> Not u ubottu
[00:26] <CapitalSigma> not positive if this is on topic here, but: one of my monitors has looked a little funky (looked like scan lines) for a while. it started flickering this morning, and now if i turn it on, it stays on for a second, then turns itself off.
[00:27] <CapitalSigma> i think it's a hardware issue, but is there something i should check to make sure it's not a software issue before i spend the cash on a new monitor?
[00:27] <Freeder> daftykins / Loshki , do you concur? I'm hosed?
[00:27] <Loshki> Freeder: Nasty. Put the disk away somewhere safe as a permanent backup. Are you confident of your ability to reconstruct the server(s)
[00:28] <Freeder> Yes, but its a LOT of work, heh
[00:28] <Freeder> Several days
[00:28] <Freeder> atleast I can mount this and copy configs, I guess
[00:28] <daftykins> CapitalSigma: yes. it's called #hardware / ##hardware
[00:29] <CapitalSigma> daftykins: i was hoping someone would suggest that it's software, oh well -- thanks
[00:34] <Loshki> Freeder: I totally understand. Since you can spin copies of the original disk you could always experiment, but it won't save any time. My biggest worry if you move to newer versions of everything, including the servers, is that you'll hit some kind of incompatibility & it will be a huge time sink. In your place, I'd consider experimenting with different hardware.
[00:35] <daftykins> xeon servers being non-64-bit sounds like they belong in a museum
[00:35] <Freeder> I am limited to the HW I have
[00:35] <Freeder> and I literally have every possible set of incompatiable stuff you could imagine
[00:36] <Freeder> This machine is 64bit! but has SCSI drives. This one is SATA, but 32bit. This one is SAS, but single core whatever!
[00:36] <Freeder> no easy way to move stuff around
[00:37] <Loshki> Freeder: Classic time (yours) vs. money (for hardware) tradeoff. Back to plan A, then? Port it to whatever you can get running...?
[00:40] <Freeder> oh, and a perfect 2950, but NO USB KEYBOARD
[00:40] <Freeder> sigh.
[00:40] <cagri_> Does anyone here have a geforce gt630m graphic card and use ubuntu 14.04
[00:42] <function9> cagri_: check on nvidia website and select your driver for your gfx card
[00:43] <cagri_> function9 : i just wanted to know if anyone got it, its not because i need a driver, i have one. It's just because im experiencing some troubles and want to know if thats because of my gfx card (unity spread crashes my pc)
[00:43] <Freeder> ok, for all the marbles... is there some way I can configure a new ubuntu install (or live CD session) over the network without having a keyboard attached to it to configure it?
[00:44] <Loshki> Freeder: I still use ps/2. I don't like usb for debugging boot time problems...
[00:44] <anon1_> I have a headless install of Ubuntu. How do I install X so that I can run the occasional GUI app when I need it? Is it as simple as sudo apt-get install x or something like that?
[00:44] <daftykins> Freeder: not that i know of.
[00:44] <Freeder> preseed! interesting
[00:45] <OerHeks> anon1_, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[00:46] <function9> cagri_: hence I gave advice to check for the latest drivers
[00:46] <Freeder> heh, NOT easy
[00:46] <anon1_> OerHeks: Is there anything lighter than installing the entire Ubuntu-Desktop?
[00:47] <Loshki> Freeder: time or money...
[00:47] <anon1_> OerHeks: Because it seems like a bad idea to do that on a server.
[00:47] <OerHeks> anon1_, openbox ?
[00:48] <function9> anon1_: blackbox or openbox
[00:48] <anon1_> OerHeks: Thanks, going to check that out.
[00:48] <anon1_> function9: Which would you recommend.
[00:48] <anon1_> function9: The Ubuntu wiki lists openbox, fluxbox and blackbox, though it always lists openbox first.
[00:49] <function9> anon1_: It's a pref thing, it's all up to you. I pref blackbox
[00:49] <Freeder> anon1_: the server edition doesn't come with the GUI, if thats what you're worried about? iirc, atleast
[00:49] <anon1_> function9: I'll probably just go with openbox since I'm not really going to be using it very often.
[00:50] <anon1_> Freeder: Yes it doesn't, I prefer the console for almost everything, but very occasionally I have the need for a GUI application.
[00:50] <function9> anon1_: I haven't tried openbox, but I have worked with blackbox in the old days of the 486
[00:52] <anon1_> function9: So I've installed xorg, xauth, and openbox, but when I used the command 'openbox' it says "failed to open the display variable from DISPLAY"
[00:53] <daftykins> anon1_: you're probably going to need a login manager still to run that - like gdm or lightdm
[00:55] <Freeder> can anyone confirm this is really a 32bit processor? Xeon 307103-001
[00:56] <Freeder> googles is being mean to me
[00:56] <function9> anon: I'm not sure how openbox works, all i remember a long time a go, I type in the terminal: startx  when x started it called on blackbox
[00:56] <function9> my Xconfig had blackbox configured
[00:57] <anon1_> function9: Ok thanks for the info. I'm just going to make another virtual machine with the full desktop version of Ubuntu. Seems easier, and I'm sort of in a hurry.
[00:58] <daftykins> Freeder: Prestonia, aka Pentium 4 era Xeon - so nope, 32 only
[00:58] <Freeder> ok, so I'm not crazy then, thanks
[00:58] <Freeder> Wonder if I can upgrade this to a 64bit then
[00:58] <daftykins> Freeder: that wasn't really the usual model # i'd see though
[00:58] <daftykins> i doubt it's worth it
[00:59] <daftykins> Freeder: who do you work for that's using such dinosaur tech?
[00:59] <Freeder> startup
[01:00] <rtl8188ce> hey folks, take 3 :) can anyone maybe help me with this wifi adapter problem in ubuntu?
[01:00] <function9> rtl8188ce: powermanagent disabled?
[01:00] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: call me crazy but your nickname looks like a model number!
[01:01] <rtl8188ce> function9: yup, i turned it off but the wifi traffic still fluctuates
[01:01] <function9> rtl8188ce: uefi?
[01:02] <Freeder> "The socket 603 that you have isn't upgradable to any CPU that has x64 support"
[01:02] <Freeder> damn, if thats true
[01:02] <daftykins> Freeder: seems likely.
[01:02] <rtl8188ce> function9: wildly, it's doing exactly this, goes up to my max download speed gradually, then abruptly it drops and repeats itself.
[01:03] <daftykins> sounds like the TCP congestion limit
[01:03] <rtl8188ce> even pinging my router gives me same result, several packets around 10ms, then boom 2000ms, and then back to 10+-
[01:04] <daftykins> sounds like a bad driver
[01:04] <rtl8188ce> dunno if it would help fixing but i had tried suse and no such behaviour. i get this only in ubuntu and i really want to use ubuntu, if i can fix this thing.
[01:05] <function9> rtl8188ce: suse sometimes use their own drivers. You need to find out what driver suse is using
[01:05] <rtl8188ce> checked lspci, lsmod etc. every dump entry regarding the wifi and ethernet adapter was exactly same between both distros :(
[01:06] <function9> I like suse, but not for a desktop :P
[01:07] <function9> rtl8188ce: i'll say it again suse tends to use their own drivers, you need to find out what drivers they are using for your card and what version.
[01:07] <rtl8188ce> is it somehow possible to pinpoint the drivers that suse distro use for these cards and somehow save it so i can get them to ubuntu and install?
[01:07] <rtl8188ce> sorry, i just started (want to start) using linux.
[01:07] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, tried trottle down to 54 mbit?
[01:07] <function9> oh
[01:08] <sandpiper> has anyone else been hearing of major problems with the new trusty 3.13.0-32 kernel updates a few days ago?
[01:08] <rtl8188ce> OerHeks, if you could tell me how to do that, i'd like to try out.
[01:08] <sandpiper> i have encountered major problems after updating kernel and removing OLDER kernel images and headers in synaptic
[01:08] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, i think easiest way is in your router ?
[01:09] <anon1_> function9: I feel stupid, X was being forwarded to a window in OSX and I didn't notice.
[01:09] <anon1_> function9: So it actually works great.
[01:09] <rtl8188ce> OerHeks, gotcha, i'll check it through router interface. any header i should look for that setting?
[01:10] <function9> anon1_: it's all good :)
[01:10] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: it'll be whether it's in a/b/g/n/ac/mixed mode etc.
[01:11] <OerHeks> rtl8188ce, or something lik modprobe rtl8188ce 11n_disable=0 ( not sure that command is oke)
[01:11] <OerHeks> disable=1
[01:12] <rtl8188ce> while i try those 2, is it possible to know what driver suse use for a hardware, find it somewhere on the drive and store it as a package so i can use it in ubuntu?
[01:12] <t0th_-> how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?
[01:14] <rtl8188ce> i have access to both installations, so i think i can extract the driver suse use and then get it in ubuntu, IF i learn where to look for it =)
[01:14] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: that may well be a fools errand due to different kernels, but ah well
[01:15] <t0th_-> how i can change apt-get to get only stable packages?
[01:16] <daftykins> t0th_-: what are you running?
[01:16] <Beldar> t0th_-, What makes you think it's not, and your definition of stable please.
[01:16] <Freeder> ok, attempting to install 14.04 32bit to a fresh disk. Selected 'install ubuntu', get a few graphics flash on the screen, and then it goes back to the mouse arrow blinking on/off on the screen
[01:16] <t0th_-> daftykins:  14/04
[01:17] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, hmm. any suggestions? i mean if a clean suse can operate the adapter flawlessly and ubuntu can't, i thought i could somehow identify the differences (drivers etc) and make those changes in ubuntu. i may be way off wrong ofcourse.
[01:17] <Beldar> Freeder, This from the desktop or the first gui with other options?
[01:18] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: none you'll like.
[01:18] <Freeder> I'm booting from the CD, I select 'install ubuntu' on the first screen
[01:18] <Freeder> after that, it goes to the blinking screen
[01:18] <daftykins> Freeder: what version CD?
[01:18] <Beldar> Freeder, Try to get to the desktop lets see if this is just a graphic issue
[01:18] <Freeder> I can move the mouse for the second its on the screen, but the next blink resets it to the center
[01:18] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, i saw lots and lots of threads opened by owners of this particular card, "rtl8188ce", and tried almost all of them but nothing worked.
[01:18] <nimbiotics> Hello. Using ubuntu 14.04 on a dual boot machine, when I try to open the windows NTFS partition I get an error message (http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817206/) that basically tells me that the NTFS partition is in an unsafe state: It is not. Is there a way to fix this? TIA!!
[01:18] <Freeder> 14.04 32bit
[01:18] <Freeder> Beldar, not sure how to do that.. it doesnt respond to anything
[01:18] <daftykins> Freeder: why are you installing desktop on a server?
[01:19] <Freeder> .... 32bit
[01:19] <daftykins> nimbiotics: windows 8.1 system?
[01:19] <Freeder> there's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast
[01:19] <Beldar> Freeder, So what happens if you try the try ubuntu option?
[01:19] <Freeder> Same exact thing
[01:19] <rtl8188ce> daftykins, it would be shame not being able to use ubuntu because of a wifi card, when it works on some another distro.
[01:20] <daftykins> rtl8188ce: yeah, unfortunately i have no patience for wireless issues i'm afraid. i use cables on my desktops.
[01:20] <Freeder> I can mash on Alt-F2 and get the shell for a second, but the blink resets it to the mouse arror
[01:20] <nimbiotics> daftykins: its windows 8 ... not sure about the .1 portion. The point is that I used to open the partition w/no issues, I jast had not done it in months
[01:20] <Beldar> Freeder, Have you run a md5sum check? Is this a server version or desktop?
[01:20] <daftykins> nimbiotics: the windows machine probably hasn't shutdown safely. you need to use shift+shutdown unless you've disabled hybrid shutdown.
[01:21] <Freeder> I feel like im' getting punked now :P
[01:21] <Beldar> nimbiotics, Boot windows and have it do a disk check in computer.
[01:21] <function9> rtl8188ce: I use kubuntu, which has the knetworkmanager for my wifi stuff
[01:21] <Freeder> 32bit desktop 14.04
[01:21] <daftykins> nimbiotics: in fact it says Windows is hibernated... go and shut it down properly.
[01:21] <Beldar> Freeder, Do you want help, I saw this "Freeder> there's no 32bit server, for 14.04 atleast" that is why I asked.
[01:22] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I have not disabled hybrid shutdown as I had never heard of it. I just did that check again and I did shut it down properly
[01:22] <RBX129K> Hi, I accidentally overrode my Windows 7 with Ubuntu. Is there any way I can recover Windows 7?
[01:23] <rtl8188ce> function9: ubuntu also had this "wicd" which is reported as a fix for this particular card.
[01:23] <nimbiotics> daftykins: what does shift+shutdown do?
[01:23] <rtl8188ce> function9: gonna try that this time then.
[01:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, Are you on that ubuntu now, if so how long have you been running it?
[01:23] <RBX129K> I've just installed it about two hours ago.
[01:23] <daftykins> nimbiotics: shutdown properly... windows 8 when told to shutdown does a kind of write to disk, this is all beyond the scope of this channel, just follow the advice to solve the problem please. you can research windows 8 shutdown online :)
[01:23] <RBX129K> And yes, I'm on it.
[01:24] <nimbiotics> daftykins: I am sure I did shut it down properly
[01:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, Bad idea, the longer you use it the less likely you can recover it, boot a live.
[01:24] <Freeder> running an integrity check right now
[01:24] <RBX129K> Dumb question, what do you mean "boot a live?"
[01:24] <daftykins> nimbiotics: and as you don't know about the above please use the shift method - i'd like for our conversation to stop going around in circles, so if you could go do that it'd be great :)
[01:25] <RBX129K> Insert the CD I've burned?
[01:25] <Beldar> RBX129K, The live dvd/usb the one you used to install with.
[01:25] <RBX129K> Alright.
[01:25] <nimbiotics> daftykins: OK, will try shift+shutdown
[01:25] <nimbiotics> daftykins. beldar: thanks
[01:27] <koell> how do i logout from Lubuntu via terminal?
[01:27] <koell> all i found on the net is from ubuntu, but not lubuntu and lxde
[01:27] <function9> koell:
[01:27] <function9> koell: exit
[01:28] <OerHeks> sudo shutdown -P now
[01:28] <koell> function9: logout in terms of "logout from the gui" so i can enter a different username and password
[01:28] <koell> OerHeks: this will poweroff my pc
[01:28] <OerHeks> koell, yes, you didn't ask logout
[01:28] <function9> lol
[01:28] <OerHeks> oh you did, my bad
[01:28] <koell> ?
[01:29] <Freeder> ok, integrity check came back fine
[01:29] <function9> right click and check if you have an option to logout
[01:29] <Freeder> theres no 'low graphics mode' or something similar i can force?
[01:30] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Freeder
[01:30] <Freeder> Beldar, but from the live cd?
[01:30] <Freeder> oh, its under an F key, isnt it
[01:30] <Beldar> Freeder, Read the link, please do not just immediate react.
[01:31] <Beldar> f6 I think
[01:35] <RBX129K> Okay, I'm on a live version of Ubuntu.
[01:36] <Freeder> The Ubuntu 14.04 screen pops up, colored dots go underneath the text, goes to a white screen, the orange/purple background, and then back to the flashy mouse again (nomodeset this time)
[01:36] <RBX129K> What should I do, now?
[01:36] <Beldar> RBX129K, In general we suggest testdisk, however you have ubuntu is there anything there that needs saving?
[01:37] <RBX129K> No, nothing needs saving.
[01:37] <RBX129K> Doesn't "testdisk" only restore files previously, and not the OS itself, or can you reinstall Windows 7 via testdisk?
[01:38] <daftykins> RBX129K: do you have another hard disk besides the one windows was on?
[01:38] <RBX129K> I have a D: drive.
[01:38] <Beldar> RBX129K, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk  You should always have backups that include an image/clone.
[01:38] <Guest27800> sssss
[01:38] <Guest27800> W a Y
[01:39] <Beldar> RBX129K, Is D an actual HD?
[01:39] <RBX129K> I don't know. How do I check?
[01:39] <Beldar> RBX129K, Run sudo parted -l in ubuntu and pastbin the info
[01:39] <Beldar> !pastebin | RBX129K
[01:41] <danilonc> Hello Everybody!
[01:41] <RBX129K> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817330/
[01:41] <danilonc> I'm trying to remote boot/unlock a Luks root FS over SSH
[01:42] <danilonc> I'm running a Ubuntu Server 14.04
[01:42] <unreal-dude> is there a command line method to reboot into the grub menu?
[01:43] <Beldar> RBX129K, Preface answer to others here with their nick like you see yours here. I see one HD nothing which would be D
[01:43] <OerHeks> unreal-dude, no, hold shift to enter grub menu
[01:43] <unreal-dude> doesn't work
[01:43] <unreal-dude> holding, nor repeatedly pressing
[01:43] <danilonc> I could accomplished that by mounting it manually
[01:43] <danilonc> e.g.
[01:43] <danilonc> /sbin/cryptsetup -T 1 --allow-discards luksOpen /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx sda5_crypt --key-file=-
[01:44] <danilonc> but them i have to kill 2 process that are waiting my password on tty0
[01:44] <daftykins> unreal-dude: you could be doing it too slow.
[01:45] <danilonc> Does anybody knows how to make the /lib/cryptsetup/passfifo  to work
[01:45] <unreal-dude> i could be, i started pressing during boot menu
[01:45] <unreal-dude> i tried holding starting during and slightly after post as well
[01:45] <unreal-dude> *boot menu = post
[01:47] <Beldar> RBX129K, Anyway your D was probably on that single HD unless you have an external not showing. Check out testdisk for recovery.
[01:47] <RBX129K> Will testdisk recover my Windows 7, or the files that were in my computer before I swapped?
[01:48] <Beldar> RBX129K, Hard to say you used it for at least 2 hours, no guarantees at any time, thats why you should have been backed up.
[01:49] <Beldar> RBX129K, You could ask in ##windows
[01:50] <Beldar> RBX129K, for recovery help
[01:55] <danilonc> Just found a solution here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/595648/comments/5
[01:56] <anon1_> I am installing the full desktop version of Ubuntu via virtualbox on top of OSX. Are there specific drivers that I need to install in Ubuntu?
[01:56] <daftykins> anon1_: such questions are relevant to the use and documentation of virtualbox, not to the support of ubuntu :)
[01:57] <Beldar> anon1_, Virtual has its own drivers
[02:00] <rajmahendra> I have upgraded my os ot new version of ubuntu... once i give password i see only a black screen and move i dont see anything ... can anyone help me ?
[02:01] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Have you had to load graphic drivers in the past? They do not follow upgrades.
[02:02] <rajmahendra> i just used the update-manager to uograde...
[02:02] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Does not matter nor answers the question.
[02:02] <rajmahendra> I tried to install gnome on ubunty as well but not succeded.
[02:03] <rajmahendra> will that create any issue ?
[02:03] <Beldar> rajmahendra, Starting with actually answering questions here is important.
[02:05] <Beldar> !in
[02:06] <Beldar> rajmahendra, ^^^
[02:06] <laspahr> eeee: can I get your opinion on something?
[02:06] <eeee> yeah sure
[02:06] <laspahr> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/macbuntu-1404-pack-is-released.html
[02:06] <eeee> did the boot work btw?
[02:06] <laspahr> I haven't turned it off yet, I just got home heh..
[02:07] <eeee> oh ok
[02:07] <laspahr> would you trust that page, and should it be okay to install?
[02:07] <eeee> honestly i dont know...
[02:07] <laspahr> that's what I had on my laptop before but it got lost when I did the reinstall IG
[02:07] <laspahr> alright, well I'll look through it, if it looks like too much then i'll hold off. I don't NEED it
[02:08] <daftykins> !ppa | laspahr
[02:08] <laspahr> just looks a little cleaner than stock ubuntu
[02:08] <OerHeks> that macbuntu package is known to give issues, try it if you like it, but please, do not ask for help :-D
[02:08] <chris0br> hi
[02:08] <laspahr> I used it, and didn't seem to give me problems but probably wouldn't hurt to check other options..?
[02:09] <laspahr> I won't install the package, i install everything seperately
[02:09] <laspahr> unless the package is all the commands
[02:09] <chris0br> Anyone here has experience mounting windows shares ?
[02:09] <daftykins> yes.
[02:09] <laspahr> like Windows partitions from a dualboot?
[02:09] <chris0br> Could mount all units, but bigger drives do not mount at all
[02:09] <chris0br> No, mount SMB shares
[02:10] <daftykins> "units" ?
[02:10] <chris0br> My 2TB and 4TB windows shares do not mount at all.
[02:10] <daftykins> are you attempting to use admin shares or have you created names?
[02:10] <chris0br> I could mount 7 external HDDs thru my network with no flaw, but bigger drives only get fail
[02:11] <chris0br> All units with names and all mounted, but big drives did not
[02:12] <laspahr> OerHeks: any alternatives that give the same look for 14.04?
[02:12] <daftykins> what's this 'unit' term you're using?
[02:12] <TJ-> chris0br: did you check the Windows Event Logs for errors?
[02:12] <chris0br> Windows drives
[02:12] <daftykins> so... disks
[02:12] <daftykins> as TJ- said then - sounds like they're GPT ones?
[02:13] <OerHeks> laspahr, i don't care about those wannabe-osx-themes, i think it is blasfemie
[02:13] <chris0br> Yep, they are GPT, do you know if there is a problems to mount them thru SMB ?
[02:13] <laspahr> OerHeks: alright, any clean Ubuntu themes then?
[02:13] <laspahr> I don't really like the built in ones
[02:14] <chris0br> Smaller drives (from 120GB to 1TB) mounted fine, but the bigger units only failed
[02:14] <OerHeks> lots of themes on gnome-look.org
[02:15] <laspahr> okay.. and is there anything in particular that seems to give problems on macbuntu?
[02:15] <OerHeks> chris0br, what is the filesystem on those big drives?
[02:15] <chris0br> NTFS
[02:16] <daftykins> chris0br: what do Windows logs say and what do the client logs say?
[02:16] <chris0br> I do not know where I can get those logs, since I am mounting them with the file explorer
[02:17] <chris0br> The only message it says is "Failed to mount Windows share"
[02:18] <daftykins> oh, you never mentioned this.
[02:18] <OerHeks> laspahr, i just warned you, i don't go find out what is exactly wrong, it is not supported
[02:18] <daftykins> chris0br: do you not want them to be available every boot? 0o
[02:18] <laspahr> okay.. well I think I might've found a better theme that I like more on gnome-look
[02:18] <laspahr> thanks!
[02:18] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[02:20] <chris0br> Hi, I do not need them to automount
[02:20] <chris0br> I can keep them bookmarked for easy access, but thats all
[02:21] <laspahr> to install tar.gz you have to use dpkg right?
[02:23] <laspahr> OerHeks: Have you installed themes from gnome-look before..? not sure what file to d/l and install or what.. heh
[02:23] <laspahr> I have the .zip, but not sure what .tar.gz
[02:23] <daftykins> !theme
[02:24] <laspahr> ......
[02:24] <laspahr> I mean how to install it from gnome-look
[02:24] <daftykins> yeah i was hoping that trigger had a guide
[02:24] <daftykins> i bet gnome-look has a guide.
[02:24] <daftykins> i bet OerHeks's breakfast on it.
[02:24] <eeee> lol :-)
[02:25] <laspahr> eeee: could you be of any help..?
[02:25] <xin0> algun chileno ?
[02:25] <chris0br> Any idea about the mount problem ?
[02:26] <daftykins> chris0br: well you didn't answer me yet so i can't continue
[02:26] <daftykins> oh you did
[02:26] <daftykins> chris0br: i would diagnose via command line mounts
[02:27] <laspahr> hmm.. maybe I should think a bit before I go look for a theme.. these are for Gnome haha...
[02:27] <laspahr> I'm not on gnome..
[02:27] <daftykins> no wiser statement was ever made.
[02:27] <chris0br> I am gonna check the command lines for gvfs stuff and check l8r here
[02:28] <chris0br> You know if there is a size limit to mount SMB shares ?
[02:28] <laspahr> ...
[02:28] <daftykins> chris0br: use smbclient to test connect, then try test mounting to a /path/
[02:28] <chris0br> Cos its weird that only bigger hdds did not mount
[02:28] <eeee> laspahr: I've no idea about it
[02:28] <laspahr> I'm on wiki.ubuntu.com/artwork but idk where all the themes are
[02:28] <daftykins> chris0br: i am not aware of any issue that would cause this, i'd have mentioned it by now
[02:28] <chris0br> daftykins: tks, gonna check this and with other distros too
[02:29] <daftykins> laspahr: really, this is about as irrelevant for a support channel as i can consider
[02:29] <chris0br> ok, tks
[02:29] <Apteryx> Hello! I'm having problems with a bluetooth keyboard. It connects fine, but the layout is completely foobared. It's unusable.
[02:29] <chris0br> gonna check here, tks
[02:30] <Apteryx> Any tips about what I should try to get it fixed? It used to work nicely!
[02:30] <Apteryx> And still work with a Windows PC so the hardware is fine.
[02:30] <Apteryx> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 with the latest updates.
[02:33] <jman> Please help. i just downloaded a tar gz file update and i tried to manually copy and paste  the files in the folder where they belong and it says i don't have permission on my admin account! can anyone shed some light on the situation or help me do it in the terminal
[02:35] <function9> jman: did you use root to unzip that file? sudo chmod 777 file
[02:35] <daftykins> jman: not much detail to go on there... what did you download, what system is this?
[02:35] <jman> the adobe flash tar gz and extracted to desktop
[02:35] <jman> ubuntu 12.04
[02:36] <daftykins> jman: that is not how to install flash on ubuntu.
[02:37] <daftykins> !flash | jman
[02:37] <jman> daftykins flash is already on here i downloaded the update
[02:37] <bodhi_zazen> daftykins, too bad gnash does not work better or peopel do not migrate to html5 already
[02:37] <daftykins> jman: so what are you doing downloading it manually? :)
[02:38] <jman> brb
[02:39] <function9> bodhi_zazen: html5 is a bit lighter to use, but still resource hungry
[02:40] <bodhi_zazen> function9, ?
[02:40] <daftykins> kinda off topic guys
[02:40] <function9> sorry
[02:40] <jman> daftykins i need <IP_ADDRESS>4
[02:40] <bodhi_zazen> lighter then what ? resource hungry compared to what ?
[02:41] <daftykins> jman: is that older? why.
[02:41] <jman> its the newer one according to adobe
[02:41] <jman> and cant get it with software center
[02:41] <bodhi_zazen> jman, is there some reason you do no want to install with apt-get ?
[02:42] <jman> didn't know what too type for program name
[02:42] <bodhi_zazen> !flash|jman
[02:43] <Jeffrey_f> jman: flash is in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:43] <jman> not version <IP_ADDRESS>4
[02:43] <daftykins> jman: wait for it to get packaged up and be available in updates.
[02:43] <jman> :(
[02:43] <daftykins> why is this such a big deal to you?
[02:43] <jman> wifey wants to play her game
[02:44] <jman> gotta keep her happy
[02:44] <Jeffrey_f> jman: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras    <---should do it
[02:44] <daftykins> jman: are you using firefox
[02:45] <OerHeks> !info flashplugin-installer
[02:45] <OerHeks> see, it is
[02:45] <jman> jeffrey_f, i already have that
[02:45] <daftykins> jman: is this firefox...
[02:45] <jman> daftykins yes
[02:46] <daftykins> jman: hit ctrl+shift+A in firefox, go to plugins... is flash listed?
[02:46] <vibranium> What is the best hobby for a programmer?
[02:46] <edition> music
[02:47] <edition> jogging
[02:47] <daftykins> edition: don't encourage the off-topic-ers please
[02:47] <edition> how do I restore the notification area. I think it was affected by Unity.
[02:47] <fiodor> where  am  i
[02:47] <edition> im using xubuntu.
[02:48] <jman> yes but it says shockwave flash
[02:48] <daftykins> jman: correct, and that is adobe flash...
[02:48] <daftykins> jman: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html
[02:48] <vibranium> Sorry, what was the topic?
[02:48] <jman> thats weird it list the same version the game is telling me to install
[02:49] <fiodor> here there is not  topic
[02:49] <fiodor> everybody  talks  what it  wants  to
[02:49] <OerHeks> !topic > fiodor vibranium
[02:49] <OerHeks> !topic > vibranium
[02:50] <daftykins> jman: and what is it you're trying to run... what is this game?
[02:51] <OerHeks> daftykins, facebook games, i guess
[02:51] <jman> farmville 2
[02:51] <fiodor> i dont use to  talk in  private form
[02:51] <jman> on facebook
[02:51] <jcstarken> hey trying set up my 14.04 so that I can sync my fitbit looking for galileo any ideas?
[02:51] <jman> everything else works
[02:51] <worm> anyone configured tun/tap tun6to4 module on ubuntu?
[02:52] <fiodor> i  prefer do it  here  ,  among  all you
[02:52] <Beldar> fiodor, Do you need support?
[02:52] <fiodor> i only  do  that when  i am  practicing  spoken  english
[02:53] <daftykins> jman: go somewhere else and test other flash content
[02:53] <Beldar> fiodor, This is support there is a offtopic channel for chat.
[02:53] <worm> Beldar: are you good with tun/tap ipv6 setup?
[02:53] <jman> daftykins everything else works just fine
[02:53] <Beldar> worm, NO and don't just start asking people it is rude.
[02:54] <worm> thanks.
[02:54] <worm> i thought ur from supporters :s
[02:54] <daftykins> jman: oh well, sorry, you're on your own.
[02:54] <OerHeks> jman, you might want to try chrome with buildin flash, as a last resort
[02:54] <jman> daftykins thanks
[02:55] <jman> thanks everyone for the help
[02:55] <bodhi_zazen> jman, see http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/flashmanual
[02:56] <bodhi_zazen> just change the version is all
[02:56] <Apteryx> Hey. I could fix my Apple Bluetooth Wireless keyboard finally. I disabled the text input shortcuts settings, unpaired it, repaired, and bingo... Strange!
[02:56] <edition> how to restore xubuntu notification area?
[02:57] <metabsd> This is the good channel to get some help about ubuntu ?
[02:57] <edition> any ideas?
[02:57] <bodhi_zazen> what is wrong with it edition ?
[02:57] <Beldar> metabsd, You are on it.
[02:57] <dua> metabsd, we can help
[02:58] <edition> after changing my mind on Unity, it caused the notfication area to crash, asking to relaunch
[02:58] <reisio> edition: ?
[02:58] <edition> tried to install unity on xubuntu
[02:58] <Orvonton> hello hello there
[02:58] <edition> the other panels work fine
[02:58] <metabsd> I use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.
[02:59] <Orvonton> cant see my chat damn it
[02:59] <bodhi_zazen> edition, well, just stating it crashes does not give us much to go on
[02:59] <Orvonton> test
[03:00] <Beldar> Orvonton, We see you, do you see this?
[03:00] <Orvonton> ya i see that, i just dont see my own text, perhaps of the color
[03:00] <bodhi_zazen> edition, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1311606
[03:00] <edition> thanks
[03:01] <Orvonton> ok fixed it
[03:03] <AbouEmre> I am trying to get a java applet to work on trusty tar can anybody help?
[03:04] <AbouEmre> I am running up to date 14.04 AMD64 I have default-java installed via apt-get
[03:04] <Jeffrey_f> AbouEmre: is this a single .jar file?
[03:04] <AbouEmre> no it is a webbased
[03:04] <edition> tried to restart xfce4-indicator
[03:04] <edition> i mean xfce4-panel -r
[03:05] <AbouEmre> I also ahve icedtea web plugi install
[03:05] <edition> "Plugin "Indicator Plugin" unexpectedly left the panel, do you want to restart it?"
[03:06] <AbouEmre> I do get an access message
 What browser do you have?
[03:06] <AbouEmre> FF30
 Check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:08] <dua> Look at the title 'GNU Compiler for Java'
 Try to install Gcjwebplugin
[03:10] <reisio> why've you changed your XChat config to be weird? :p
 thanks I am looking at it right now
[03:11] <reisio> two of you... with different IRC clients? That is too weird
[03:11] <edition> how to restore the indicator plugin?
 you're welcome :)
[03:11] <Silvar> Hello there,
[03:11] <function9> hi
[03:11] <reisio> Silvar: 'lo
[03:12] <Silvar> I need some help configuring the firewall for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. More so, I can't access the firewall.
[03:13] <tdannecy> Silvar: Have you checked out this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
 sudo apt-get install xfce4-indicator-plugin is valid for you?
[03:13] <Silvar> tdannecy: Thanks for that, I have not tried that.
[03:14] <tdannecy> Silvar: Also, there's an application called "gufw" that is a graphical manager for the firewall.
[03:14] <Silvar> I just tried iptables and nothing get an error. let me check out the page.
[03:14] <Silvar> This is for a VPS :P
[03:14] <Silvar> so no gui
[03:14] <tdannecy> Silvar: Ah.
[03:14] <Silvar> Well, the first command didn't do anything :(
[03:15] <daftykins> Silvar: learning to configure a firewall at command line with a VPS... very bad idea.
[03:15] <Silvar> i tired sudo ufw enable,
[03:15] <daftykins> you'll lock yourself out
[03:15] <Silvar> Well, I wanted to install Ajenti on this vps. and it worked correctly.
[03:15] <eeee> how can i tell if a ext hdd is plugged into a usb 3.0 not usb 2.0?
[03:15] <Silvar> but can't get into the panel and I think I need to unblock port 8000
[03:16] <metabsd> I use ubuntu 14.04 and i configure my headset bluetooth (TurtleBeach). I see the device in bluetooth and soud setting but when i select the device as the output device the mic not working. Any Idea ?? I google a lot but don't find anyting.
[03:17] <Silvar> So, do I need to install iptables package?
[03:17] <tdannecy> eeee: Can you run "lspci" in the terminal? See if it spits out anything there.
[03:18] <reisio> eeee: the plastic tends to be blue, doesn't it?
[03:18] <eeee> reisio: not always, i checked it isn't but the manufacturer's website says i have usb 3.0
[03:18] <reisio> also transfer speed would be apparently different
 Can you listen something with the headphones?
[03:19] <eeee> yeah i tried testing, lsusb isn't showing much info except that i have usb 3.0 i think
[03:19] <metabsd> dua: yes
[03:20] <Silvar> Anyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?
[03:20] <metabsd> dua: input work without bluetooth
[03:21] <dua> metabsd: Is the microphone integrated with headphones?
[03:21] <metabsd> dua: yes, turtle beach xp300
[03:22] <syntroPi> is the newest trusty kernel 3.13.0-32-generic compatible with nvidia 340.24? i get no GUI and have to reboot via sysrq !!!
[03:24] <reisio> syntroPi: it either is or it isn't
[03:24] <dua> metabsd: Maybe you can try with this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AudioCapture
[03:26] <metabsd> dua: already try
[03:27] <syntroPi> reisio, seems it tries to load nvidia AND nouveau simultanously
[03:27] <reisio> syntroPi: that would be problematic indeed
[03:27] <metabsd> dua: the mic of my webcam work but not the headset
[03:27] <syntroPi> reisio, can i savely uninstall nouveau completely?
[03:27] <Blue1> is there a way to lock a task to a specific window in xfce?  for example when I click on a link in an email the browser shifts to the workspace the email client is in.
[03:27] <reisio> syntroPi: yes, it's just software
[03:28] <BrandonC> hey all
[03:28] <function9> hi
[03:28] <BrandonC> just installed ubuntu with windows
[03:28] <reisio> Blue1: I'd ask #xfce about it
[03:28] <reisio> BrandonC: hi, gj
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: jumping workspaces when it gains focus?  It's /somewhere/ in the settings
[03:28] <BrandonC> gave up waiting fo rroot device
[03:28] <daftykins> BrandonC: what do you mean 'with windows'
[03:28] <BrandonC> duel boot
[03:29] <reisio> dual*
[03:29] <BrandonC> insted of replace windows
[03:29] <BrandonC> oh ok
[03:29] <BrandonC> dual
[03:29] <reisio> :)
[03:29] <BrandonC> wow almost went off topic.. um
[03:29] <Blue1> SchrodingersScat: yup i just don't know where it is -- it's NOT in workspace settings that's for sure.
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: look for maybe 'window manager tweaks' > 'focus'
[03:29] <metabsd> dua: i test all the device i see in audacity and the only one working is the webcam mic
[03:29] <Silvar> Anyone have any ideas why the command "sudo ufw enable" does nothing on a fresh Ubuntu 14.04 LTS  install?
[03:29] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: IIRC i set mine to 'do nothing' because I also hate that.
[03:30] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[03:31] <Blue1> SchrodingersScat: that was it -- many thanks.
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> Blue1: great, welcome
[03:33] <function9> Silvar: what are you trying to achieve?
[03:33] <Silvar> funtion9: to open port 8000
[03:33] <viscera> I've set a grey-ish wallpaper but the file selection rectangle is now not visible. How can I make it visible?
[03:33] <viscera> i.e. the colour is too similar to the wallpaper
[03:33] <Silvar> I am thinking the problem might be with my provider.
[03:33] <function9> Silvar: install gufw
[03:34] <Silvar> It's a VPS.
[03:34] <Blue1> Silvar: usually you open a port in the router
[03:34] <Silvar> using the OpenVZ platform
[03:35] <baus> Silvar use Vzfirewall
[03:36] <Silvar> baus: Thanks for that. going to reseach that command
[03:37] <Silvar> Yep, looks like I need to open a ticket with my provider.
[03:38] <mofai> hi, I
[03:38] <mofai> I've installed a wireless driver named MT7601USTA
[03:39] <mofai> however, would like to use an ndiswrapper instead. how can I remove the old driver?
[03:39] <mofai> sorry for newbie question
[03:39] <mofai> cannot find answer from google
[03:40] <mofai> it's for tp-link wireless usb dongle
[03:41] <relue271> #llvm
[03:41] <Silvar> baus: I tried the command vzfirewall and it still doesn't work. Just for more information, I wanted to install the Ajenti control panel to futher control my VPS. and It installed with no errors. but i can not access the panel. I think I need to unblock port 8000
[03:43] <Blue1> Silvar: again that is usually a function of a router -- if you don't have one then try telnet localhost 8000      that will tell you if that port is open.
[03:45] <Silvar> Blue1: Well, checking the port, It's unblocked...
[03:45] <Silvar> so then there might have been a configuration error...
[03:46] <Blue1> Silvar: so you did get a response back then?  do you have a router?
[03:46] <Silvar> No response, i used a port checking website.
[03:46] <Silvar> and port 8000 was open.
[03:47] <Silvar> Grr, still can't access my panel.
[03:47] <Silvar> Anyone mind a PM and see if they can reach my panel?
[03:48] <edition> dua: nothing happens
[03:48] <daftykins> Silvar: are you sure that a daemon on that port is even running? "netstat -tuln"
[03:49] <Silvar> daftykins: yes it is
[03:50] <dua> edition: Can you disable your cam or your cam mic?
[03:50] <dua> edition: Maybe that is the problem
[03:52] <Silvar> Restarted the service and it still doesn't work :(
[03:54] <metabsd> 2/save
[03:54] <malohhree> Which is the best chat room for beginners? :)
[03:55] <BrandonC> is there a repair i can do from ubuntu cd?
[03:55] <daftykins> malohhree: there isn't, support questions in here only really.
[03:55] <BrandonC> do i boot from cd?
[03:55] <reisio> malohhree: for Ubuntu beginners? Here
[03:55] <reisio> BrandonC: to repair what?
[03:56] <BrandonC> my ubuntu install
[03:56] <dua> BrandonC: Yes, you can boot from a Ubuntu CD for repair your installation
[03:56] <Beldar> BrandonC, If you chroot in you are using the install, try addressing the actual issue.
[03:56] <dua> BrandonC: Is your grub crashed?
[03:56] <malohhree> Okay! In your opinion, what is the best way to learn Bash, Linux, etc.?
[03:57] <reisio> malohhree: jump in
[03:57] <daftykins> !documentation | malohhree
[03:57] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[03:57] <reisio> BrandonC: you get a shell?
[03:57] <BrandonC> ya
[03:57] <malohhree> Thank you! :)
[03:58] <reisio> BrandonC: grep -i d3386 /etc/fstab
[03:58] <Silvar> I got it working fellas.
[03:58] <BrandonC> reisio, type that?
[03:58] <reisio> BrandonC: yes
[03:58] <reisio> Silvar: gj
[03:58] <reisio> Silvar: tell the channel how, for posterity
[03:58] <Silvar> I looked into the config file, the service was using the ip "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> can someone remove 13.10 from topic, its eol
[03:59] <Silvar> changed it to the ip of the vps, and it worked.
[03:59] <metabsd>  /run autorun/hilightwin.pl
[04:00] <reisio> metabsd: !!! :p
[04:08] <BrandonC> reisio, no such file or directory
[04:08] <reisio> BrandonC: best boot up the live OS, then
[04:12] <bong> hello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?
[04:12] <reisio> bong: there is less of a need, but they're still useful
[04:12] <reisio> which is why Linux has one
[04:13] <bong> hello ive heard that we do not need firewalls at all in lubuntu bcoz it does not have open ports by default. is this true that i do not need firewalls?
[04:14] <bong> reisio u talking to me?
[04:14] <reisio> bong: how could you tell?
[04:15] <reisio> was it how I put your nick in front of the msg? :)
[04:15]  * daftykins calls in Sherlock Holmes
[04:18] <bong> reisio im sorry i saw only....  which is why Linux has one. hehe.
[04:19] <reisio> :p
[04:22] <bong> reisio so we just install linux and thats it??
[04:23] <reisio> bong: no, you'd have to configure it to fully exploit it
[04:23] <rtl8188ce> hi, this will sound stupid but, how can i make a shortcut on desktop to an executable file? i'd love to be able to click n run it without going in terminal, heading to appropriate folder and doing "./appnamehere"
[04:23] <reisio> bong: but there is indeed much less need for a tightly configured firewall for Unix systems
[04:23] <reisio> rtl8188ce: right click, probably
[04:23] <reisio> rtl8188ce: something about a launcher
[04:24] <reisio> rtl8188ce: you could also use ln -s /path/to/original /path/to/shortcut
[04:25] <rtl8188ce> reisio, hey again reisio, i made a link to the executable and put it in desktop but i think something else is wrong.
[04:25] <reisio> bummer
[04:26] <rtl8188ce> reisio, neither the executable file, nor the link is opening the app on dclick
[04:26] <bong> reisio do u use a firewall??
[04:26] <rtl8188ce> only way i managed to run it is to open a term on the folder and do ./xyz
[04:27] <rfoley> anyone very familiar with install from dvd?  have installed before but am having "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" error on a older pentium4 board.
[04:27] <reisio> bong: nope, but I would for a server box
[04:27] <reisio> rfoley: didn't want to use a USB stick?
[04:27] <edition> is there a way of reinstalling xfce4?
[04:28] <rfoley> reisio no boot from usp on this one
[04:29] <rfoley> and had disc from another machine couple weeks ago
[04:29] <rfoley> is there a way to trigger install manually from the busybox shell?
[04:29] <reisio> rfoley: make sure you burn slowly
[04:29] <reisio> and check sums
[04:30] <edition> how to replace xfce, with standard ubuntu desktop?
[04:30] <MavKen> tasksel
[04:30] <iceroot> edition: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:30] <edition> thanks :)
[04:30] <overmacht> reisio, ha
[04:30] <rfoley> reisio have used on another install, burned 2x speed.  and checks ok
[04:30] <edition> this wont cause clashes?
[04:30] <unreal-dude> edition then choose it on login screen on top right
[04:30] <iceroot> edition: no
[04:30] <toolazyforaname> edition, you can select your DE in your login manager
[04:31] <edition> what if it doesn't?
[04:31] <toolazyforaname> doesn't what
[04:31] <iceroot> edition: when it does not what?
[04:31] <edition> nevermind. it will work :)
[04:31] <kelvin> Does anybody use a Macbook Pro retina with Ubuntu?
[04:32] <iceroot> kelvin: i think so
[04:32]  * edition is shocked
[04:32] <BrandonC> first time i booted comp the try me/install came up fast, this time taking like.. 20 min
[04:32] <iceroot> kelvin: but hopefully not
[04:32] <kelvin> I have one and it's amazing
[04:32] <kelvin> The only problem is that my keyboard stops working after suspend
[04:33] <iceroot> !mac | kelvin
[04:33] <kelvin> I already have it installed
[04:33] <iceroot> kelvin: installing and using says the text
[04:33] <toolazyforaname> out of curiosity, how is the fan controller on ubuntu?
[04:34] <iceroot> kelvin: luckily i dont own these jails so i dont know the issue but maybe its a known one
[04:34] <kelvin> toolazy, it seems just fine to me
[04:35] <tlanix> hello
[04:35] <tlanix> how do i remove xchat and install hexchat
[04:35] <toolazyforaname> last time i installed a *nix system on my mbp, the fan module didn't throttle the speed at all. I guess that's why I am asking
[04:36] <iceroot> toolazyforaname: it depends on your hardware, there may be issues with some boards but normally it should work
[04:36] <bong> ive got LibreOffice_4.2.5_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz downloaded, how do i install this?
[04:36] <iceroot> bong: dont install it that way
[04:36] <iceroot> bong: always use the repo instead of manually downloaded deb files
[04:37] <iceroot> bong: sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[04:37] <reisio> tlanix: same as anything
[04:37] <nullsign-> time for russian sysadmin roulette..
[04:37] <nullsign-> # [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo “Lucky boy…”;
[04:37] <iceroot> !danger
[04:37] <iceroot> !op | nullsign-
[04:37] <reisio> iceroot: what's dangerous about it?
[04:37] <nullsign-> http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2014/05/16/roulette-russe-2/
[04:37] <rww> howdy
[04:37] <iceroot> nullsign-: and your command will not work on bash
[04:38] <rtl8188ce> i have this old roguelike adom downloaded and i can't get it to work by clicking, i have to open term and type ./adom everytime. is it possible to make a clickable shortcut?
[04:38] <nullsign-> reisio: it's russian roulette
[04:38] <colin_> hi all. i want to know  how to save the nvidia settings.it says i dont i need to save it as root. each time i restart my pc.i have to set again
[04:38] <reisio> nullsign-: hrmm?
[04:38] <rww> nullsign-: 1) that doesn't work these days, 2) please stick to support in here, thanks
[04:38] <iceroot> reisio: it will do nothimng because he is stupid and things rm -r / works
[04:38] <nullsign-> it's a 1 in 6 chance of doing rm -rf /
[04:38] <reisio> iceroot: yeah
[04:38] <iceroot> nullsign-: rm -r / will do nothing
[04:38] <reisio> nullsign-: it's a 0 chance
[04:38] <iceroot> nullsign-: still you are stupid and not welcomed here
[04:38] <reisio> so why did we just suffer that spam
[04:38] <rtl8188ce> i already set the file as executable but nothing happens on dclick
[04:38] <rww> iceroot: can we not call people names, thanks
[04:38] <iceroot> reisio: because not respecting the rules here, we dont need people like that
[04:39] <nullsign-> no sense of humor.
[04:39] <iceroot> rww: ok, i will stop it, support such people here
[04:39] <rww> nullsign-: unfortunately, in a large support channel, you need to sacrifice some humor to stop the channel from being unusable :(
[04:39] <nullsign-> fair enough. i
[04:40] <bong> iceroot i didnt use repos bcoz power is unreliable in these places. i was afraid i might hose down the system  if power goes out halfway through the install.
[04:41] <iceroot> bong: and the same your are not afraif if installing it locally?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> rww: can you remove 13.10 from topic?
[04:42] <apb1963> so I'm about to take the plunge (ok I already did) and reboot using a newly installed disk that I put together with debootstrap.  Immediately I noticed a few things.  1) The color of the login screen changed from a dark blue gradient with purple to a light blue.  2) All my desktop settings were gone.  Is it as simple (and safe?) as just copying my ~/.kde dir to the new disk?
[04:42] <rww> lotuspsychje: researching, sec
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> rww: tnx
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: possibly
[04:43] <apb1963> ubuntu 12.04
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: you might want to mv the extant ~/.kde first
[04:43] <reisio> apb1963: or at least cp
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> rww: tnx mate : )
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> neat LTS row
[04:45] <apb1963> reisio: ok, backups are always a good idea and yes I'm notorious for forgetting to do that, so thank you for that.  Anything else?
[04:45] <reisio> one step at a time
[04:47] <edition> how can i make the Dash menu horizontal, like in xfce?
[04:48] <apb1963> reisio: no I need to get all the important steps down... I booted it up and had nothing to work with.  I couldn't even login here.  I need to install aptik and get my packages back... of course aptik wants to install half the world so I need to come back and ask if what it wants to install is safe... I got burned by some package upgrading my qt lib and I've been suffering ever since.
[04:48] <apb1963> Which is one major reason for the new disk.
[04:48] <reisio> edition: at the bottom?
[04:48] <edition> yes\
[04:48] <edition> and the window buttons at the right
[04:48] <reisio> edition: there's a bug on it at launchpad.net with solutions in the comments
[04:52] <_edition> ok. how to set the window buttons to the right?
[04:53] <function9> _edition: are you using xfce?
[04:54] <Beldar> _edition> ok. how to set the window buttons to the right? The left panel?
[04:54] <reisio> !tweak
[04:56] <_edition> ubuntu unity
[04:56] <ios-7-mel> hi
[04:56] <reisio> hi ios
[04:56] <Beldar> _edition, Not much you can do with unity beyond themes as far as moving aore changing controls.
[04:56] <ios-7-mel> how u doing?
[04:57] <reisio> you can move the window decorations, though :)
[04:57] <reisio> and the bar
[04:57] <reisio> so...
[04:57] <tharkun> ios-7-mel: Any questions regarding /topic?
[04:57] <_edition> if it was horizontal, it would be better than win7 :)
[04:57] <akaWolf> hello! can you help me? I'm starting my pidgin and can't see him. I'm using Ubuntu trusty x64 and KDE.
[04:58] <ios-7-mel> im new to using ubuntu plz tell me how to install new program
[04:58] <function9> _edition: there is kubuntu
[04:58] <tharkun> !super_basic
[04:58] <akaWolf> ios-7-mel: sudo apt-get install PROGRAMNAME
[04:58] <Beldar> _edition, You mean the left panel horizontal?
[04:58] <_edition> yes
[04:58] <akaWolf> guys!
[04:59] <ios-7-mel> sudo
[04:59] <Beldar> _edition, The left panel can't be moved.
[04:59] <akaWolf> why I can't see my pidgin window?
[04:59] <_edition> why?
[04:59] <function9> akaWolf: what is pidgin?
[04:59] <toolazyforaname> function9, a chat client
[04:59] <akaWolf> function9: it's a program...
[04:59] <Beldar> _edition, Just part of the design it has an integrated setup
[04:59] <function9> oh
[05:00] <_edition> i dont get it.
[05:00] <_edition> even windows lets you have both types...
[05:00] <toolazyforaname> _edition, the location of that panel isn't changeable
[05:00] <toolazyforaname> it's baked in
[05:00] <_edition> what about kubuntu?
[05:01] <toolazyforaname> what about it
[05:01] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in KDE?
[05:01] <function9> _edition: if you prefer the windows 7 orientation, kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE
[05:01] <RBX129K> Hi, I have the Windows 7 ISO burned on my USB, and whenever I boot on my USB, it just takes me back to Ubuntu. Are there any solutions?
[05:01] <BrandonC> k booted up with cd. how do i repair my ubuntu install?
[05:01] <_edition> something similiar to dash menu?
[05:02] <Beldar> RBX129K, how did you burn it on the usb?
[05:02] <RBX129K> Has anybody ever experienced this problem?
[05:02] <RBX129K> Well
[05:02] <RBX129K> I used the terminal
[05:02] <RBX129K> My friend told me to type something like
[05:02] <RBX129K> well
[05:02] <Beldar> RBX129K, Note I am using your nick when I address you.
[05:02] <RBX129K> It had my USB location in it, and the ISO
[05:02] <RBX129K> Sorry.
[05:03] <RBX129K> Beldar, I used the Terminal to manually burn the ISO to the USB.
[05:03] <Beldar> RBX129K, use this, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[05:04] <nullsign-> RBX129K: disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot/BIOS
[05:04] <nullsign-> RBX129K: make sure your USB is in the first in boot order too?
[05:04] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE?
[05:04] <Beldar> nullsign-, THey have a msdos no uefi
[05:04] <RBX129K> nullsign-, It's the second last in the boot order.
[05:04] <nullsign-> make it first?
[05:04] <toolazyforaname> akaWolf, what do you mean by application windows
[05:04] <RBX129K> nullsign-, How would I disable UEFI and enable Legacy Boot?
[05:05] <nullsign-> they are sometimes settings in your BIOS.
[05:05] <Beldar> RBX129K, YOU don;t have uefi I helped you earlier.
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: I start my pidgin, and can't see window
[05:05] <bong> iceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.
[05:05] <RBX129K> Beldar, what is UEFI, anyway?
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: I see a terminal output
[05:05] <Beldar> !uefi | RBX129K
[05:05] <toolazyforaname> how are you  starting pidgin?
[05:05] <toolazyforaname> oh
[05:05] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: pidgin -d
[05:06] <toolazyforaname> try `pidgin &'
[05:06] <RBX129K> Hmm.
[05:06] <function9> _edition: this menu??? http://i.imgur.com/WeuYhv1.png
[05:06] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: it's not an reason..
[05:06] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: already trying
[05:06] <akaWolf> ed*
[05:07] <function9> bbl
[05:08] <bong> iceroot no bcoz i have most of the files already. shouldnt take as long to install.
[05:08] <Beldar> RBX129K, Does the usb have a bootflag, and what was the command to load the iso to the usb a dd?
[05:08] <RBX129K> Beldar, yes it was a dd, and I don't know if it has a bootflag.
[05:08] <akaWolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7817940/ -- it's begin of the log...
[05:10] <Beldar> RBX129K, Not sure if you can add one but open gparted and right click the usb-manage flags and check the boot.
[05:10] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application windows doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't find my USB on Gparted
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, Nevermind, found it
[05:11] <Beldar> RBX129K, Use the dropdown top right and see of it's there.
[05:11] <RBX129K> Beldar, It's there. Where do I go again?
[05:13] <RBX129K> Beldar, The manage flags option is disabled.
[05:13] <Beldar> RBX129K, click it so the usb shows, then right click the usb, ten choose manage flags than click boot it will than have a boot flag than try booting it again.
[05:13] <akaWolf> oh
[05:13] <Beldar> RBX129K, I figured as such a dd shows no partition right?
[05:13] <akaWolf> ok, I will try to ask after..
[05:14] <RBX129K> Beldar, Let me find the command I executed again.
[05:14] <Beldar> RBX129K, Just use the link I sent you.
[05:15] <RBX129K> Beldar, Okay.
 RBX129K, use this, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
 RBX129K: di
[05:15] <Jeffrey_f> akaWolf: ICQ has been down for a while today.  Not sure what's going on, but it is up at the moment.
[05:16] <Beldar> nullsign-, mistaken post ignore
[05:16] <Beldar> RBX129K, This a MS ISO? Where did you get it from?
[05:17] <RBX129K> Beldar, http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w7forums.com%2Fthreads%2Fofficial-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325%2F&redir_token=T6XqEipUKirCS03JOv2TVlkDjx98MTQwNTgzMzQzMUAxNDA1NzQ3MDMx
[05:17] <RBX129K> whoops
[05:17] <RBX129K> Beldar, http://www.w7forums.com/threads/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads.12325/
[05:17] <RBX129K> I'm using the x64 one.
[05:18] <Beldar> RBX129K, THat should work with the link.
[05:18] <RBX129K> Beldar, All of the options are disabled, except for "New." Could this be because my USB is unmounted?
[05:18] <akaWolf> Jeffrey_f: it's not reason :)
[05:19] <Beldar> RBX129K, You could try mounting it to see.
[05:19] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I mount it?
[05:20] <Beldar> RBX129K, Does the usb show a partition?
[05:20] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I check?
[05:20] <Beldar> RBX129K, It would show it in gparted.
[05:21] <Jeffrey_f> akaWolf: yea, realized that wasn't the question after I hit enter:-[
[05:21] <RBX129K> Beldar, would you like a screenshot?
[05:21] <Beldar> RBX129K, NOt really this is a waste of time use the link.
[05:21] <Beldar> it works
[05:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, The stuff is grayed out because you used dd there is no partition.
[05:23] <RBX129K> Beldar, How do I fix that?
[05:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, You can't use the link.
[05:24] <RBX129K> Beldar, what should I do now?
[05:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, I have posted you a link twice with your nick.
[05:24] <RBX129K> Beldar, you told me I can't use the link.
[05:24] <Beldar> RBX129K, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[05:25] <Beldar> RBX129K, I never said that
[05:25] <RBX129K> [00:23] <Beldar> RBX129K, You can't use the link.
[05:26] <Beldar> RBX129K, It was a mistake typing I said at least 5 other times to use it.
[05:26] <Beldar> RBX129K, We are not communicating very well at the least.
[05:27] <RBX129K> Beldar, should I go to the link inside that post? I see a graphical way to install it.
[05:28] <Beldar> RBX129K, click on the link and follow the instruction, yes a nice gui way of loading the usb.
[05:28] <Jackripthatdoor> who | wc -l or who | wc
[05:29] <gartral> is there a hardware-support specific channel for Ubuntu? <,<]
[05:30] <Beldar> gartral, there is a hardware channel.
[05:30] <gartral> Beldar: what is it?
[05:30] <Beldar> gartral,  ##hardware
[05:30] <OerHeks> gartral, depends, do you have a problem with a component, or just general ?
[05:31] <gartral> Beldar: yea, that's not hardware-specific..
[05:31] <gartral> er.. ubuntu-specific*
[05:31] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't find the link to that graphical installer.
[05:31] <RBX129K> Beldar, pardon my stupidity
[05:31] <Beldar> gartral, It is hardware specific there is no ubuntu hardware channel, and answer OerHeks question
[05:32] <Beldar> RBX129K, You have to load the PPA as the instructions say than run a update than install it than open it.
[05:33] <Beldar> RBX129K, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight than sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get install winusb
[05:33] <gartral> OerHeks: I have a number of HP Elitebook 2730ps (read one-hundred and ninty a of them), I really need a preseed file that will allow streamlined, forced setup of the finger-print sensor, jog-wheel and screen rotate keys built into them... like.. really badly..
[05:34] <RBX129K> Beldar, Should I be concerned of this? E: Unable to locate package winusb
[05:34] <RBX129K> Beldar, Everything else loaded fine.
[05:35] <Beldar> RBX129K, Do you see my post on what to run?
[05:35] <Beldar> RBX129K,HOld on
[05:35] <RBX129K> Beldar, Alright.
[05:35] <OerHeks> gartral, that is a huge job, preparing a preseed file.
[05:36] <OerHeks> gartral, did you test one machine, does all hardware work OOTB ?
[05:36] <Beldar> RBX129K, Ah, there is no trusty version, however you can use an earlier version, this ubuntu will be wiped anyway right?
[05:36] <RBX129K> Beldar, Yes. Mind linking me?
[05:37] <gartral> OerHeks: THANKS! that's a huge help, i'll be studying it to understand it better, NOTE, IMPORTANT: the biometric sensor is an AuthenTec, Inc. AES2810.. it's a little weird..
[05:37] <RBX129K> Beldar, I don't trust myself with downloading stuff.
[05:38] <mjayk> Hay all
[05:38] <gartral> RBX129K: i'll be taking you Netizen Card... :P
[05:38] <Beldar> RBX129K, Open software & updates go to the second tab and in the ppa's info change it to saucy from trusty, than run a update and do the install command again.
[05:38] <mjayk> I have two ubuntu installs but grub fails to detect the ubuntu install partitioned with LVM any help here would be appriciated
[05:39] <gartral> mjayk: both on the same HDD?
[05:39] <RBX129K> Beldar, I can't locate Software & Updates. Don't kill me, but I'm using Kubuntu.
[05:39] <mjayk> no different physical drives gartral
[05:40] <gartral> mjayk: ahh... you need to run a grub-update from the newest drive, make sure BOTH are marked bootable from the cd
[05:40] <Beldar> RBX129K, Ah than not sure with kubuntu, I have to go take care of a short job right now. Make sure the usb is getting called to boot as of now by making it first read in the bios, and I will be back shortly and have another way if you still need it.
[05:41] <mjayk> ah ok so after the install of the second "ubuntu" I need to manually update grub ? gartral
[05:41] <BrandonC> so booted from cd, how do i repair my instalation?
[05:41] <Beldar> RBX129K, It may be that the usb works but is just not being called first at powering in is all.
[05:41] <gartral> mjayk: that *SHOULD* fix it, unleass your running luks (full disk encryption) on both, yes
[05:42] <mjayk> ah im running full disk encryption on the LVM install gartral
[05:42] <gartral> mjayk: is the LVM on the newer encrytoin or the old one?
[05:42] <mjayk> old gartral
[05:42] <gartral> derp.. on the new drive*
[05:43] <mjayk> gartral: LVM is encrypted on the old drive
[05:43] <gartral> mjayk: eww... um.. good luck? i'm sorry, i've never gotten that working
[05:43] <mjayk> gartral: no worries thanks for your help :) im just trying to learn so no data loss even if i have to nuke and pave
[05:43] <OerHeks> gartral, are yousure it is 2730ps ? all i find is 2730p
[05:44] <gartral> OerHeks: 2730p, i added the 's' to denote I was working with multiple, you are correct
[05:44] <OerHeks> oke
[05:45] <gartral> OerHeks: these are really nice tablet-convertables with some awesome features..
[05:45] <OerHeks> gartral, one help with fingerprint is this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui with a table with supported devices
[05:47] <gartral> OerHeks: I found that.. running it on my personal unit but I have NO IDEA how to integrate a PPA in a preseed.. and boss-girl wants it to come up automatically on first boot for each unit, first boot..
[05:48] <gartral> OerHeks: basically.. what I need is the ability to load a single image and be back to a fully working system within about 2 hours due to loss/theft/damage/whatever these morons due to their laptops
[05:50] <OerHeks> gartral, i understand, fingerreader should work on login. also there is an oem install possible, so re-install should be possible, even offline.
[05:50] <OerHeks> gartral, now i am looking for earlier preseed attempts
[05:50] <RBX129K> Whenever I attempt to mount my USB, this message occurs
[05:50] <RBX129K> "mount: block device /dev/sdb is write-protected, mounting read-only"
[05:51] <RBX129K> Does anybody mind helping me out?
[05:51] <gartral> OerHeks: I've ran into a "first login" failure if the home is encrypted.. and a stipulation is full drive encryption including encrypted home..
[05:52] <gartral> OerHeks: I've TOLD her, multiple times that it's over-kill.. but do bosses listen? no.. not unless it sounds good
[05:53] <BrandonC> do boot to cd to fix my instalation or choose in boot menu recovery?
[05:54] <gartral> OerHeks: may I query you?
[05:55] <circ-user-5wiJL> @BrandonC this is depending on what's broken. Could you discribe your prblem in detail, plz
[05:55] <BrandonC> Alert! /dev/disk/by-uuid/d3386ad5-f2e9... does not exist, dropping to a shell
[05:55] <BrandonC> after i select ubuntu from boot menu
[05:56] <circ-user-5wiJL> what did you do before this was happen?
[05:56] <BrandonC> installed ubuntu
[05:57] <gartral> BrandonC: did you go through the automated installer or select "Something else"?
[05:57] <circ-user-5wiJL> Well. so ubuntu had not locatted your hard disc or in other words the partition you where choosing.
[05:58] <BrandonC> booted cd, selected install, split my hard drive space to leave my win 7 , it finished, restarted, ejected cd and i got that message
[05:58] <circ-user-5wiJL> the simplest thing you can do is Restart the installation delete the ubuntu partition restart it again and let the installler take the rest of free space on your hd
[05:59] <BrandonC> i dont want it to use the rest of the unused space
[05:59] <BrandonC> i want to half it
[05:59] <gartral> BrandonC: you have a windows install you want to keep?
[05:59] <BrandonC> ya
[05:59] <gartral> BrandonC: did you choose "install Ubuntu beside windows"?
[06:00] <BrandonC> ya, it gave me slider to choose how much hard drive space to allocate
[06:00] <BrandonC> left it said windows, right it said ubuntu
[06:00] <gartral> BrandonC: did you do a defrag/backup of everything you cared about, like the installer warned you to do?
[06:01] <BrandonC> its a freshly installed win 7
[06:01] <BrandonC> so no
[06:01] <Daisyab__> hi. i cant access my applications through my dashboard on ubuntu 12.04.  I tried this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067256 but still no luck.  Anyone have any ideas?
[06:02] <gartral> BrandonC: alright, so it's a basic, dual-boot, nothing you care about, but you didn't boot windows and defrag first?
[06:02] <BrandonC> first?
[06:02] <BrandonC> before i installed ubuntu?
[06:02] <gartral> BrandonC: yes, first
[06:03] <BrandonC> no
[06:03] <gartral> BrandonC: there's your issue, your going to have to start fresh, reinstall windows, defrag, then reinstall ubuntu..
[06:04] <RBX129K> Can I install Windows 7 over DVD+R with Kubuntu?
[06:04] <RBX129K> Is it possible?
[06:04] <gartral> RBX129K: kinda.. it
[06:05] <gartral> RBX129K: it's possible, but not easy.. \
[06:05] <RBX129K> gartral: Would you mind helping me?
[06:06] <gartral> RBX129K: not that I'm trying to sell my services here, but you're going to need to make it a financially viable option... I have nearly 200 computers I need to set up..
[06:06] <gartral> RBX129K: read; Pay me, or No.
[06:08] <gartral> OerHeks: any progress? I do need sleep tonight, and it's 2AM
[06:10] <BrandonC> can i use the existing partitions? id kinda like to just install ubuntu right now so i can use it, and reinstall windows later
[06:10] <OerHeks> gartral, i think you better go on tomorrow, i am not that experienced with preseeding, with 3th party files and was looking in LVM/crypto ,, never done that before
[06:10] <gartral> BrandonC: that, as far as i know, has never been a real option
[06:11] <OerHeks> it takes a lot of testing
[06:11] <NickDV> ppldevs
[06:11] <NickDV> hey guys
[06:11] <gartral> BrandonC: it's always been "Windows first, then linux"
[06:12] <gartral> OerHeks: can i pm youn my email addy?
[06:12] <OerHeks> gartral, sure, but i will be here tomorrow too
[06:13] <MavKen> any eta of netbeans 8.0 being added to repo?  currently has an old version
[06:13] <gartral> OerHeks: there's no garuntees i'll be here..
[06:14] <bekks> MavKen: No betas will be added at all. And new releases will be added only for security reasons, etc.
[06:14] <OerHeks> gartral, we'll see
[06:15] <MavKen> lots of new features though
[06:15] <BrandonC> is the reason for windows then ubuntu so the boot sequence lets me select?
[06:16] <BrandonC> and if i start with two partitions, will i still hve to debug my windows partition before ubuntu?
[06:16] <MavKen> hmm... why keep such an old version though?  im new to ubuntu, thought of it as leading the pack
[06:16] <bekks> MavKen: because betas will not be added to the repos, and new versions will be added for security reasons only. Not for shiny new features.
[06:17] <OerHeks> MavKen, maybe this page is any help > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/03/install-netbeans-ide-8-0-in-ubuntu-14-0413-1012-04/
[06:18] <MavKen> ive already installed it... but expected to see latest versions in software center
[06:18] <varunendra> BrandonC, installing windows first then ubuntu makes things easier, but it is not necessary, you can do it other way round, just a few steps more would be needed, and the live media you installed ubuntu from
[06:18] <svetlana> Hi all. I inserted a writable DVD, but brasero's "burn an image" dialog says that no disk is available.
[06:18] <mjayk> svetlana: is it the correct type of dvd for the burner ?
[06:19] <svetlana> mjayk: how do I know?
[06:20] <mjayk> Itll say on the front of ur dvd player or somewhere + or - or +-
[06:22] <BrandonC> wait what varunendra, what  did you mean by 'and the live media'? you just mean ill need the cd again after i install ubuntu then windows?
[06:23] <mjayk> BrandonC: yes because you need to boot back from the ubuntu cd or dvd after you install both os's
[06:23] <mjayk> BrandonC: if you install ubuntu first
[06:23] <varunendra> BrandonC, again, yes - for the usual fix, but that is not necessary either. You can also use some windows boot loader to boot Ubuntu like - EasyBCD
[06:24] <BrandonC> like ill need the ubuntu dvd everytime, or just once to fix booting ?
[06:24] <mjayk> just once BrandonC
[06:24] <varunendra> BrandonC, just once to fix the boot.
[06:24] <BrandonC> k
[06:25] <BrandonC> to fix, i boot to live ubuntu with cd and use that to fix, or there is a tool as i boot from cd to fix boot?
[06:25] <svetlana> mjayk, how do I find my "dvd player"?
[06:25] <varunendra> BrandonC, the windows installer overwrites the Ubuntu boot loader, and itself doesn't support booting Ubuntu. That's why you need to install the Ubuntu boot loader (GRUB2) again if you install windows later.
[06:25] <BrandonC> oky ya
[06:25] <zubir> ^^
[06:25] <BrandonC> ive done that before
[06:25] <mjayk> svetlana: i dont know somewhere in your pc ?
[06:26] <zubir> install VLC
[06:26] <varunendra> BrandonC, there is just a couple of commands you need to run from the live cd to reinstall grub
[06:26] <svetlana> mjayk: I don't know either... do you mean a hardware or software thing? I already inserted an empty writable DVD into my computer.
[06:27] <zubir> svetlana : what do you want to do with the dvd?
[06:27] <mjayk> svetlana: i asked if it was the correct type of dvd.
[06:27] <svetlana> mjayk: how do I find out?
[06:27] <svetlana> zubir: write a xubuntu iso onto it
[06:28] <zubir> here's an easy way to do it
[06:29] <svetlana> I don't know whether this computer supports reading (or writing) dvd; means to determine that could be handy.
[06:29] <svetlana> zubir: yes?
[06:29] <zubir> wait, what OS are you on?
[06:29] <varunendra> svetlana, I may be misleading you here, but I know that there are some bugs with brasero that sometimes do weird things. I prefer k3b for cd/dvd burner which is a lot better than brasero. But again, consider it just a random suggestion - may not be related to the solution you are currently seeking.
[06:30] <zubir> If on Windows, use Imgburn
[06:30] <zubir> if on Linux, the dd utility is the way to go
[06:31] <bekks> zubir: dd for burning cd/dvd is the most painful way to go. Personally I am using k3b since ages and never had issues, which werent obvious, like defective media, etc.
[06:32] <Beldar> yeah dd is one wa to go, and "is the way to go" is an opinion
[06:33] <BrandonC> yay now my hard drive is clicking
[06:33] <zubir> I understand, I just find it very straightforward and speedy compared to GUI utilities once you know what to do
[06:33] <bekks> zubir: The burning speed has nothing to do with the GUI. Technically, thats not possible ;)
[06:33] <varunendra> BrandonC, yay indeed! Congratulations in advance for a new hard disk :D
[06:34] <Beldar> zubir, Just use a in my opinion, we have people who use this channel who know no better at times. ;)
[06:34] <zubir> I understand, I'm new at giving advice here
[06:35] <zubir> dd has always worked well for me when burning iso files, imgburn for windows is the next best thing
[06:35] <varunendra> svetlana, to find the capabilities of your optical drive, maybe "sudo lshw -C disk" could help. Its output tells you the exact model name as well as a summary of capabilities of the drive.
[06:35] <zubir> in my opinion ;)
[06:35] <BrandonC> nah i just put the side of case back on and i cant hear it
[06:36] <svetlana> varunendra: I'm installing it.
[06:36] <svetlana> zubir: I likely lack understanding how to use dd.
[06:36] <varunendra> BrandonC, then I take back the congrats.. ;)
[06:36] <zubir> I'm just gonna write out my process of writing isos to disk
[06:37] <svetlana> capabilities: audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
[06:37] <svetlana> hmm.
[06:37] <varunendra> svetlana, and model name?
[06:37] <svetlana> it can read dvd, I understand. can it write? "-ram"?
[06:37] <Beldar> zubir, We see on occasion people wiping there stuff with dd used incorrectly is all on occasion. I'm an experienced user I never use it.
[06:37] <bekks> svetlana: Did you ensure that the inserted media is a dvd-r at least?
[06:37] <svetlana> and it also says "configuration: status=nodisc", hm.
[06:38] <svetlana> varunendra, of the cd/dvd drive? dunno. it's a fujitsu s7210 laptop.
[06:38] <bekks> svetlana: Yes, it can write, since it supports dvd-r and dvd-ram
[06:38] <varunendra> svetlana, I an not sure about it. It doesn't say it can "Write" those. Maybe can just read?
[06:39] <varunendra> svetlana, but we can look up by its model name to confirm
[06:39] <zubir> Beldar: I know, it's easy to go horribly wrong with dd if not careful
[06:39] <BrandonC> so can i use the existing partitions to install ubuntu then windows?
[06:39] <varunendra> svetlana, for example, the output for mine clearly says - "description: DVD-RAM writer"
[06:40] <svetlana> mine does too.
[06:40] <reisio> BrandonC: probably, if you don't mind nuking them
[06:40] <varunendra> BrandonC, if you insist, yes. Just remember the extra steps to get Ubuntu back after that :)
[06:40] <varunendra> svetlana, no more doubts then :)
[06:40] <BrandonC> ill have enought mana in a few seconds to cast my nuke
[06:40] <svetlana> http://dpaste.com/27W3Q4F
[06:41] <BrandonC> sorry been playing everquest1 last few days
[06:41] <reisio> ha
[06:41] <svetlana> the other non-brasero tool is still downloading packages so that it can install.
[06:41] <varunendra> going afk..
[06:41] <Beldar> BrandonC, You can boot ubuntu with grub
[06:41] <Beldar> the ubuntu iso
[06:41] <BrandonC> ya i got that part, was more worried about using my broken partitions
[06:42] <BrandonC> well not broken partitions but brokedn insall on partitions
[06:42] <BrandonC> but i figure partition is partition
[06:43] <zubir> like I just run isoinfo on the iso to get the block size and block count
[06:43] <zubir> then do "sudo dd if=niceimage.iso of=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=<whatever the count is>"
[06:43] <zubir> and done
[06:44] <bekks> zubir: the exact count is irrelevant, since dd will stop at the end of the file.
[06:45] <zubir> bekks: I'm aware, but I've gotten into the habit because if you rip a disk without using the exact block size, you don't end up with an exact copy
[06:46] <zubir> so I've just gotten into the habit of copying exactly what needs to be copied
[06:46] <zubir> via block count
[06:49] <zubir> but yeah, if you just do "dd if=myiso.iso of=/dev/cdrom", your disk will most likely be perfectly fine
[06:49] <zubir> but run md5sum on the iso and the disk and see if they're the same
[06:52] <zubir> or rather, check a disk made with exact count against one that stopped when dd reached the end
[06:54] <helmut_> hi
[06:55] <zubir> yo
[06:55] <reisio> hiyo
[06:56] <super_> how do i find out which host /sys/class/host? I am?
[06:56] <reisio> super_: hrmm?
[06:57] <bekks> super_: What are you actually trying to do?
[06:57] <super_> i got a hotplug SATA hard drive it is formatted in ext4 the system doesn't show that it is plug in
[06:58] <zubir> did you mount it?
[06:59] <super_> the device is not detected so I can't mount
[07:00] <zubir> does it show up after running "sudo fdisk -l"?
[07:00] <bekks> super_: Do you have a hotplug capable SATA controller as well?
[07:01] <svetlana> k3b also complains that no disk is inserted.
[07:01] <super_> echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/scan
[07:01] <super_> I try to find out how do I know that I'm host0?
[07:01] <super_> thats the only way for me to get my hard to show up is running that echo
[07:01] <bekks> svetlana: Maybe the inserted media is just broken?
[07:02] <bekks> super_: Congratulations, you do not have a hotplug capable controller then.
[07:02] <svetlana> it is a new disk. I think driver issue probably.
[07:02] <super_> bekks I have hotplug tray
[07:02] <bekks> svetlana: Even new disks may be broken.
[07:02] <super_> so yes it is hotplug SATA is hotplug
[07:02] <svetlana> yes, I know, I may need to try on another computer
[07:02] <bekks> super_: a tray is not a controller.
[07:03] <bekks> super_: And NO, the controller needs to be hotplug capable, which it obviously isnt.
[07:03] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Peace brothers and sisters. Question: is it possible to install Linux in/on ZFS file-system ?
[07:03] <super_> with windows I just plug in and it just show up no need to type in long command line
[07:03] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: Yes.
[07:03] <super_> muslim are not peaceful people
[07:03] <super_> they hate the jews
[07:03] <bekks> super_: Windows is irrelevant at that point.
[07:04] <OerHeks> !coc | super_
[07:04] <Ali_M_Ahmed> super: If that Muslim is atheist like my self then he does not care about Jews or any relgions :D
[07:05] <zubir> ....
[07:05] <Beldar> Ali_M_Ahmed, That is not allowed here.
[07:05] <super_> the kuran also said you can lie to infidel
[07:05] <bekks> !ot | super_
[07:05] <toolazyforaname> super_, take it elsewhere
[07:05] <OerHeks> lets stop this flamewar now.
[07:08] <Ali_M_Ahmed> bekks: can you please tell me how-to ? BTW... why i don't see ZFS file-system when i try to install Ubuntu ?
[07:08] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: Because it isnt supported by the installer.
[07:08] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS Ali_M_Ahmed
[07:09] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: you would have to install it completely manually, and you need to be _very_ careful when upgrading modules (from the needed 3rd party repo) or the kernel.
[07:10] <bekks> Ali_M_Ahmed: I suggest not installing Ubuntu on ZFS, but using ZFS for your data only.
[07:10] <toolazyforaname> ^ I second this
[07:11] <reisio> I suggest not using CDDL software if you can help it
[07:11] <reisio> :)
[07:12] <reisio> or Oracle software, for that matter :p
[07:12] <bekks> thats why ZFS on linux is not "owned" and licensed by Oracle ;)
[07:13] <super_> Unable to access “96 GB Volume”
[07:13] <Findegil> Anyone familiar with SSL Certificates that could lend a hand for a few min? I feel like i’ve read half of the internet
[07:13] <toolazyforaname> spoken like a person who has had to deal with oracle database
[07:13] <super_> Error mounting /dev/dm-3 at /media/super/481c486e-c1fd-4801-b9ed-a91e088a33ec: Command-line `mount -t "ext4" -o
[07:14] <reisio> bekks: sure it isn't
[07:14] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Okay dear brother @bekks. So, I can't install Ubuntu on ZFS from installer becouse it is not supported by default ? Can I ask for the reason ?
[07:16] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, why it's not supported by the installer?
[07:17] <Ali_M_Ahmed> Yes brother <toolazyforaname>
[07:18] <toolazyforaname> Probably because compared to other FS out there like ext 2-4, ZFS isn't common and therefor not worth the dev/support time
[07:20] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed,  Do you have the option to resize your zfs part, and create a small ext2 boot partition for ubuntu to run on?
[07:22] <walroos> sudo ssh-keygen -f "/home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts" -R <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:22] <walroos> not working .. shooting up errors ^^
[07:22] <Ali_M_Ahmed> @toolazyforaname Ohh, Okay now i know :D Thanks. i heard BSD people use it as their default.  |  I actually do not have ZFS currently in my HDD. I was just asking :D
[07:22] <zubir> what kind of errors?
[07:22] <zubir> @walroos
[07:22] <walroos> zubir, /home/aswin/.ssh/known_hosts is not a valid known_hosts file.
[07:23] <walroos> should i delete the who .ssh directory?
[07:23] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, ah cool cool. well again nothing is stopping you from making a zfs data partition and letting ubuntus boot partition reside on ext2
[07:23] <zubir> not the whole ssh directory, maybe just empty the known_hosts file
[07:23] <zubir> start it fresh
[07:24] <walroos> zubir, okie :)
[07:24] <walroos> thnks
[07:27] <Ali_M_Ahmed> I deeply apologize brother @toolazyforaname for annoying you with my too much questions, But please allow me to ask you last question... Is it possible to convert my root partition(EXT4) to ZFS file-system without causing any damage to me operating system ?
[07:28] <xop> a big time noob here but what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd??
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Ali_M_Ahmed if the OS doesn't support the file system, conversion is likely to fix it.
[07:29] <lias81> hi there
[07:29] <lias81> is anyone here?
[07:30] <function9> hi
[07:30] <lias81> hi my friend
[07:30] <cfhowlett> lias81 ask your ubuntu question
[07:30] <toolazyforaname> Ali_M_Ahmed, youll loose all your data on the zfs partition, but other than that, you should be a-ok
[07:31] <toolazyforaname> s/zfs/ext4
[07:31] <xop> Sorry to repeat myself, but here goes: what is the consequence of logical volume misalignment on 512b hdd?
[07:32] <lias81> i think i destroyed my pc. I tried to upgraded my ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and when i try to login i get an error failed to start session. i tried several things to do, but i didnt manage it. any ideas?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> lias81 what method did you use to upgrade?  Is ubuntu the on OS?
[07:32] <toolazyforaname> lias81, you'll have to be a lot more specific
[07:32] <cfhowlett> "ONLY OS"?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> lias81 also - highly unlikely you "destroyed" anything
[07:33] <lias81> no, i have dual machine (dell laptop) with windows 7 and ubuntu.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> lias81 OK  - HOW did you do this upgrade?
[07:35] <lias81> i follow these steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/443556/upgrading-12-04-to-14-04-beta
[07:35] <cfhowlett> lias81 14.04 "beta" ???
[07:36] <lias81> it wasnt a beta version\
[07:36] <lias81> is there any chance to avoid format and save my pc?
[07:37] <cfhowlett> lias81 OK - moving on to fixing ... download the 14.04 ISO.  VERIFY the ISO.  make a USB.  VERIFY the USB.  reinstall ubuntu.
[07:37] <toolazyforaname> lias81, almost certainly. can you provide exact error and log output?
[07:37] <GeorgeZ> Hello there Can i Ask a question related to ubuntu with laptops? thank you
[07:38] <Ali_M_Ahmed> @toolazyforaname, @cfhowlett Deeply thankful guys. I ask my lord(Stephin Hawking) to give you both happiness in your life's for helping me here.   =)
[07:38] <lias81> toolazyforaname: if you give me some instructions
[07:38] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ ask
[07:38] <cfhowlett> Ali_M_Ahmed happy2help
[07:38] <Ali_M_Ahmed> thanks. Bye all :D
[07:38] <lias81> cfhowlett: if i do this, i will loose everything in ubuntu partion?
[07:38] <GeorgeZ> I installed ubuntu in my laptop. problem is boot time and OS is really slow
[07:38] <GeorgeZ> i search a while in net
[07:38] <cfhowlett> lias81 do you have a dedicated /home partition?
[07:38] <toolazyforaname> lias81, well you said something failed. What was reported on the failure?
[07:39] <cfhowlett> lias81 if not, then yes, it will wipe your /home.
[07:39] <GeorgeZ> some people say that changing controler to compatibility mode in bios helps but my bios dont have that option
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !deatils|GeorgeZ
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !details
[07:39] <GeorgeZ> Details of laptop you mean?
[07:39] <lias81> cfhowlett: i know.. ffffff
[07:40] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ hardware, what you're trying to do, what DID you do?
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> Clear Installation of Ubuntu 64 bit with usb in laptop bios boot setting in legacy mode. Laptop specs i3 4 gb ram
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> and the boot up and os is really slow
[07:41] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ so installed completely and successfully?
[07:41] <GeorgeZ> Yes
[07:41] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  when i open my pc, in the login screen - i am typing my password and i cant login. the msg is failed to start session"  same problem when i am trying to login as a guest. moreover i cant connect to wifi
[07:42] <cfhowlett> GeorgeZ and "slow" = ???
[07:42] <toolazyforaname> lias81, so to be clear, you  are seeing the log-in screen
[07:43] <lias81> toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything .
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> ok
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> lias81, after having it fail once, press ctrl + alt + f1
[07:43] <[gnubie]> i am on mac os x mavericks and i ssh -X to an ubuntu 14.04 server where i want to run startx to display it on my mac. the cli looks good but i don’t see the dispaly of my startx. any idea what i missed here? thanks.
[07:43] <toolazyforaname> and type
[07:44] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i opened a temrinal by pressing alt ctrl and f1
[07:44] <toolazyforaname> tail /var/log/Xorg<tab complete>
[07:44] <toolazyforaname> do you  see any error messages?
[07:45] <BrandonC> so im reinstalling ubuntu.. i get choice, reinstall ubuntu, erace ubuntu and reinsall, and erase everything and reinstall.. problem is the install now button is greyed out.. no mater what i select
[07:46] <toolazyforaname> same goes for /var/log/xdm.log and /var/log/gdm/*.log
[07:46] <lias81> toolazyforaname: yes my friend. but i cant do anything . '/var/log/xorg for reading, n such file or directory
[07:47] <baus> lias81 can you help me install ubuntu?
[07:47] <mjayk> lias81: you need to capitalise the X
[07:47] <toolazyforaname> lias81, well i dont know the exact file name . . . tab complete should resolve the name though
[07:47] <lias81> same with cpital X
[07:48] <Beldar> baus, State your issue to the channel don;t just randomly address others.
[07:48] <nearst> hello everyone
[07:48] <lias81> same error
[07:48] <[gnubie]> toolazyforaname: no error so far
[07:48] <baus> Beldar can you help me install ubuntu?
[07:49] <Beldar> baus, Tell the channel you problem.
[07:49] <varunendra> BrandonC, can you show us the output of "sudo parted -l" ? Paste it into pastebin and post its link here.
[07:49] <toolazyforaname> lias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors
[07:49] <toolazyforaname> lias81, try `less ~/.xsession-errors' *
[07:49] <baus> Beldar i don't know how to install ubuntu yet, can you walk me through it please?
[07:49] <ikonia> !install | baus
[07:49] <baus> no i don't want to install baus, i want to installl ubuntu Beldar
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: read the documentation ubottu has just given you
[07:50]  * cfhowlett beginning to suspect ...
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: that will explain how to install ubuntu
[07:50] <PowerKiller> i forgot my ubuntu password can i restore it?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !password | PowerKiller
[07:50] <baus> okay thanks ikonia and Beldar
[07:50] <ikonia> baus: if you have any questions about that, just ask
[07:50] <nearst> hiya ikonia cfhowlett
[07:50] <PowerKiller> oh thanks
[07:50] <cfhowlett> nearst greetings
[07:51] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i typed " 'less ~/.xsession-errors' and i got that no such file or directory
[07:51] <toolazyforaname> lias81, can you tell me what lives in /var/log/
[07:54] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  pls how to do this?
[07:54] <toolazyforaname> `ls -a /var/log/'
[07:54] <BrandonC> why is my install button grey ?
[07:55] <cfhowlett> BrandonC did you verify the ISO and the USB?
[07:55] <BrandonC> i just did installyesterday
[07:55] <BrandonC> im reinstalling
[07:56] <BrandonC> so no but i think it works
[07:56] <[gnubie]> the last 2 lines of my ~/.xsession-errors contains:
[07:56] <[gnubie]> Openbox-Message: Couldn't set locale from environment.
[07:56] <[gnubie]> Fontconfig warning: ignoring utf-8: not a valid region tag
[07:56] <cfhowlett> BrandonC garbage in, garbage out.  verification takes 2 minutes but if you don't have that kind of time to trouble shoot ... good luck
[07:57] <[gnubie]> anyone?
[07:57] <BrandonC> dude, dont try to help then be a pric
[07:57] <BrandonC> im googling how to verify
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | BrandonC
[07:57] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  nothing appears ,
[07:58] <toolazyforaname> type exactly what you are entering, because that is not possible
[07:59] <lias81> toolazyforaname: `ls [space] -a [space] /var/log'
[07:59] <toolazyforaname> dont use ` and ' . i use those to specify what is a terminal cmd and what isnt
[07:59] <lias81> with quotes ` and '
[07:59] <lias81> ok
[08:01] <tapout> i have a lorex security system from costco, and they only supply pc/mac/android versions.  Shouldn't I be able to just use Wine and use the PC version to do the remote viewing of the cameras ?
[08:02] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i did it. i have too many results. i am looking for  something ?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !wine | tapout check the wine DB to see if your hardware is supported.
[08:03] <toolazyforaname> you are looking for soemthing like xorg.log
[08:03] <cfhowlett> tapout you might also consider virtualbox + windows + lorex software
[08:05] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i have Xorg.o.log  and Xorg.0.log.old and Xorg.1.log and Xorg.1.log.old
[08:06] <tapout> thank you!
[08:06] <akaWolf> can someone said me reasons for application's window doesn't appear in Ubuntu with KDE? I can't see my pidgin's window.
[08:06] <toolazyforaname> ok can you pastey Xorg.0.log and Xorg.1.log and link me to it?
[08:07] <BrandonC> so to run the md5sum i need to boot the live cd and use terminal?
[08:08] <nearst> BrandonC, md5sum --help
[08:08] <cfhowlett> BrandonC nope.  FIRST you verify the ISO you downloaded.  if that's good, THEN you verify your USB/CD
[08:09] <BrandonC> why not just my dvd?
[08:10] <nearst> for security concern, im not always use that too
[08:10] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: they verify different things
[08:10] <BrandonC> so if the dvd verifies ok, there may be somthing wrong with the dvd that testing the iso would find?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> BrandonC your downloaded ISO is the source for the DVD.  If the ISO is funky, DVD is funky.  If the ISO is good, but the DVD is funky, DVD is funky.
[08:10] <nearst> but make it has a habit is a good things
[08:10] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  i have to type /var/log/Xorg ??
[08:11] <BrandonC> so dvd can be good but iso was bad?
[08:11] <cfhowlett> BrandonC yes!!!!
[08:11] <cfhowlett> BrandonC DVD was BURNED good, but bad source ISO = bad OS.
[08:12] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: verifying a dvd just shows that whatever you wanted to copy, was done correctly from the original. You original could be incorrect though
[08:13] <BrandonC> oh im only verifying that the dvd was burned correctly, im not comparing it to the hash of the iso
[08:13] <toolazyforaname> lias81: do you have a way to copy and paste information to pastebin? (is this on a vm, or a physical machine?)
[08:13] <BrandonC> cause space at end of dvd changes the hash
[08:13] <cfhowlett> BrandonC which is why I specifically advised you to 1. verify the ISO THEN 2. verify the DVD.
[08:14] <BrandonC> ya i dont know why i ask questions, i should just take what i get and not try to learn why
[08:14] <toolazyforaname> BrandonC: want some tea with that tart of yours
[08:14] <lias81> it is a physucal maschine, i cant somehow to send you a photo with results. if this is a such waste of time for you, i will try to find out an other  solution :-)
[08:15] <cfhowlett> BrandonC well you DID read the md5sum wiki - which explained it all , right? :)
[08:15] <nearst> BrandonC, learn is a good things :)
[08:15] <toolazyforaname> lias81: yeah a pic wouldnt be that helpful.
[08:15] <BrandonC> ya i read it and was confirming i understood it right
[08:15] <toolazyforaname> lias81: so you ran something like full-system-upgrade and now you can't log in?
[08:16] <nearst> lias81, what problem
[08:16] <lias81> toolazyforaname: ok  :-) thank you for your time.
[08:16] <lias81> nearst:  i upgrq
[08:17] <lias81> nearst:  i upgrade ubuntu and i cant login
[08:17] <nearst> lias81, gui ?
[08:17] <lias81> nearst:  sorry?
[08:18] <nearst> lias81, i mean. any display manager ? or in terminal F1 ?
[08:18] <lias81> toolazyforaname: do you think that i cant founfd a solution or it is impossible?
[08:18] <peterwds> i want to disable compiz or whatever does the effects on my computer because it is too slow. how to?
[08:18] <toolazyforaname> lias81: its def not impossible, but debugging will be challenging without seeing error logs
[08:18] <lias81> nearst:  i only manage to open a temrinal with ctr alt and f1
[08:19] <toolazyforaname> lias81: are you still in your terminal? can you log in from there?
[08:19] <peterwds> :(
[08:20] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i can login from terminal. but nothing happens next. the maschine doesnt open. I mean i only see the terminal nothings more
[08:20] <nearst> peterwds, assume u got metacity install, just metacity --replace &
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !compiz | peterwds
[08:20] <toolazyforaname> lias81: i understand. do me a favor tell me what this says uname -r
[08:20] <nearst> lias81, did u try to install gdm ? default was lightdm
[08:21] <lias81> 3.13.0-32-generc
[08:22] <lias81> nearst:  i think that I did it
[08:22] <lias81> toolazyforaname: 3.13.0-32-generic
[08:24] <FuzzyWhirlpool> Kernel version 32 is out. I guess I'm missing some updates, still using version 30.
[08:24] <toolazyforaname> lias81: `which gdm'
[08:25] <nearst> lias81, try dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:25] <toolazyforaname> lias81: ^
[08:26] <nearst> i think i got this problem before. but after install gdm and make it at default. just work again.
[08:26] <lias81> nearst: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[08:26] <toolazyforaname> sudo !!
[08:26] <nearst> lias81, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:29] <lias81> nearst: package gdm is not install and no information is available
[08:29] <souri> Hi, does anyone here know about ALS (ambient light sensor) support for vaio laptops in Ubuntu? With the "sony-laptop" kernel module, I do not get automatic dimming on low lit conditions. I've tried checking out the Embedded Controller RAM dump using ectool, and I can see the values at a particular address changing
[08:29] <souri> But I do not know how to change the sony-laptop kernel module source to listen to that event and make changes to the backlight
[08:30] <toolazyforaname> lias81: sudo apt-get install gdm
[08:30] <souri> Any help is appreciated. I see ALS support in the driver source, but still it's not happening and I can't figure out why
[08:32] <lias81> toolazyforaname: i did it many times . but i get errors. I have a list with unmet dependencies, it suggests to try 'apt-geg -f install'
[08:33] <nearst> souri, u mean this one ? https://code.google.com/p/vaio-f11-linux/wiki/AutoDimmingBacklightDaemon
[08:34] <toolazyforaname> lias81: i would go for it
[08:34] <toolazyforaname> sudo apt-get -f install gdm
[08:35] <nearst> lias81, do-upgrade release or dist-upgrade ?
[08:35] <souri> nearst, no it's here: https://gitorious.org/sony-laptop-zseries
[08:35] <lias81> toolazyforaname: and i get as an error couldnt lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:36] <souri> nearst: and i'm looking at the code here: https://github.com/absorb-it/sony-laptop-zseries .  Someone made a few changes to make the previous code compile on the newer kernel, so I can build this easily
[08:36] <nearst> lias81, if u do-release-upgrade, probably deficiency from 3rd party package
[08:36] <lias81> nearst: i have to type do-upgrade?
[08:37] <toolazyforaname> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1859887 may want to try sudo apt-get install lightdm-gtk-greeter
[08:37] <nearst> lias81, u said after upgrade. which upgrade u mean :D
[08:38] <nearst> afk games
[08:39] <varunendra> lias81, the 'couldn't lock...' error means either you have another package manager open (synaptic or software center?) or the lock file has stuck for some reason.
[08:39] <toolazyforaname> varunendra: i would imagine it's locked bc the manger is in use
[08:40] <varunendra> toolazyforaname, if the program/process that threw that error is the only one trying to get the lock, it won't complain at all :)
[08:40] <toolazyforaname> varunendra: it's not though
[08:40] <Mountain_R> hi guys I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it? damn
[08:41] <lias81> nearst: i did something wrong? is something that i can do to save my pc
[08:41] <varunendra> lias81, if you can confirm that no more than one package manager is open/running in terminal, you can solve the 'lock' error by simply deleting that file. It is completely safe.
[08:41] <Mountain_R> screensaver is unistalled too
[08:42] <toolazyforaname> lias81: can you run these two commands: sudo apt-get update
[08:42] <toolazyforaname> sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:42] <lias81> varunendra: only one terminal is opened
[08:43] <varunendra> lias81, then if the commands toolazyforaname suggested above give you the "couldn't lock..." error - we need to delete the lock file
[08:43] <lias81> toolazyforaname: too many errors. nothing changed
[08:44] <nearst> lias81, delete lock file and try sudo apt-get update again.
[08:44] <lias81> @nea
[08:44] <RahulAN> any one here using fortran?
[08:44] <lias81> nearst:  could you pls give me the command?
[08:44] <RahulAN> I want to learn any recommendation?
[08:44] <varunendra> lias81, "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[08:45] <varunendra> lias81, have you given us the pastebin link of the errors you get?
[08:45] <lias81> varunendra: thanks
[08:46] <varunendra> lias81, only if that helps solving the issue :)
[08:46] <nearst> lias81, sudo killall apt-get or sudo fuser -cuk /var/lib/dpkg/lock; sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[08:47] <nearst> try again install gdm, restart service and hope all good :)
[08:47] <lias81> varunendra: i know, but the only way to share something is with photo. it is a different machine and i have no other option
[08:48] <varunendra> lias81, no working internet connection either?
[08:49] <lias81> varunendra: doesnt work
[08:49] <varunendra> lias81, the net or the 'lock' trick?
[08:50] <nearst> lias81, im getting confuse. hehe.
[08:50] <lias81> nearst: i did it, got no errors
[08:50]  * varunendra too
[08:50] <nearst> if too techie, backup data and fresh install. :)
[08:50]  * lias81 is complete lost, i want to burn my machine
[08:50]  * varunendra reaches out to write out his address to lias81
[08:51] <varunendra> lias81, I haven't followed your messages from beginning, so sorry if I'm asking silly questions. :)
[08:51]  * lias81 thanks a lot toolazyforaname , nearst  and varunendra  and offers fire to burn my pc =)
[08:51] <Mountain_R> can someone help me with the screensaver?
[08:52] <lias81> varunendra: i asked the most silly questions here. dont worry
[08:52] <toolazyforaname> lias81: did you get it???
[08:53] <varunendra> lias81, if you don't have too many programs or too much customization on the existing installation, then a fresh install is actually not a bad idea.  That's why i am trying to avoid installing again a new version. but i think unfortunatelly is the only solution
[08:55] <toolazyforaname> lias81: you can save the info from a live cd
[08:55] <lias81> toolazyforaname:  dont know yet. i ll try it
[08:55] <varunendra> lias81, can you please state the problem (current status) in detail again?
[08:56] <nearst> lias81, what is actual problem ? no login screen ?
[08:56] <Mountain_R> hello there is someone for me
[08:57] <varunendra> Mountain_R, possibly, but only when you state your problem first :)
[08:57] <lias81> in login screen , when i am trying to login weather as user or as a guest, i got an error msg " failed to start session"
[08:57] <nearst> lias81, u try to restart lightdm service ? sudo service lightdm restart, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:57] <lias81> nearst: i did it , nothings happened.
[08:57] <nearst> oh. display manager
[08:58] <lias81> and moreover i cant connet to wifi
[08:58] <akaWolf> toolazyforaname: sec...
[08:58] <varunendra> lias81, is the wifi problem pre-existing?
[08:58] <toolazyforaname> akaWolf: ?
[08:58] <lias81> varunendra: nop
[08:59] <nearst> lias81, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-session
[08:59] <Mountain_R> varunendra,  I have done :) yet, i copy it again: I am going crazy with the monitor, I have uninstalled it and deactivated power manager but after 1 minute or less of inactivity my monitor always switch off. what is it?
[08:59] <varunendra> nearst, keep in mind that lias81 can't connect to internet currently.
[08:59] <nearst> owh
[09:00] <nearst> well. try with dpkg-reconfigure -a :)
[09:00] <varunendra> Mountain_R, I may not be able to help with that, but which version of ubuntu are you using, and what all have you tried so far?
[09:00] <lias81> nearst: it is hopeless , fffffff i think i completely destroyed my machine. i got as results some unmet dependencies
[09:01] <edition> is vi still a good editor to use?
[09:01] <Mountain_R> ubuntu 14:04 64bit xfce
[09:01] <nearst> which package unmet depencencies?
[09:02] <varunendra> lias81, do you think showing us the error messages can be a great chance of help?  But have you tried normal power management options?
[09:03] <Mountain_R> sure I have done lots of changes
[09:03] <toolazyforaname> edition: well to be fair, vi isn't linux. it's a text editor
[09:03] <lias81> varunendra: i think that i will waste your time my friend.  the only way to do this is to take a photo and send it with email .
[09:03] <varunendra> edition, I keep reading that it is great, although so far I have never needed it.
[09:03] <Mountain_R> nothing, after 1 minute the monitor is switched off
[09:04] <varunendra> lias81, photos can be uploaded to imagebin :)
[09:04] <nearst> imgur also ok
[09:04] <he1kki> I would like to add my own web source search instead of amazon/ubuntu one. Good idea?
[09:05] <lias81> i dont know  that service. but if you like i can do it for you. but i think is hopeless. i completely destroyed  my machine\
[09:07] <toolazyforaname> strong with the defeatist attitude you are
[09:07] <nearst> lias81, http://askubuntu.com/questions/140246/how-do-i-resolve-unmet-dependencies
[09:07] <lccadmin> provided I can manage to capture video and audio, what's the best app to stream it out to something like youtube or ustream or livestream?
[09:11] <varunendra> lias81, I don't mind trying as long as I am hanging out here. I'm here to 'waste' my time ;p But if you wish, there are ways to fix/install packages offline.
[09:11] <lias81> i am trying to upload a phot
[09:12] <nearst> im learning here
[09:12] <varunendra> Mountain_R, is it Xubuntu or just xfce installed on top of default Ubuntu?
[09:13] <he1kki> answer to my on question probably is unity-scope-tool and http://developer.ubuntu.com/scopes/tutorials/scope-development-procedures/
[09:13] <he1kki> /on/own
[09:15] <lias81> nearst: varunendra  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqQ21YSV9rcDRBZmdmOE9BcjI0Z2tLWEU1Qmt3/edit?usp=sharing
[09:17] <varunendra> lias81, and what happens when you do "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[09:17] <nick07> my ubuntu 14.04 never cold start with the cpu fan running, after the laptop gets to hot after 20 minutes I turns off and after that, when it cooled down, I can turn on the computer and the cpu fan is running
[09:17] <nick07> *it turns off
[09:19] <thonza> My computer have ability to remove all fans and show games silently
[09:22] <lias81> varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing
[09:22] <nearst> lias81, try with "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[09:23] <lias81> nearst:  this is what i get https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqLXpZbDJ5Z19XTjY2RHJZX2d6enBmbmN2dEdF/edit?usp=sharing
[09:23] <thonza> what is the -f in the command?
[09:25] <toolazyforaname> probably force
[09:25] <lias81> need more clear photo?
[09:26] <nearst> lias81, it seems like gnome3 issue
[09:26] <varunendra> lias81, so it proceeds to do what it is supposed to do, but then due to no internet connection, it fails. So we have two possible approaches - 1) get connected to internet if that is easy (I may try), or, 2) try an option "--print-uris" with "apt-get" command (I'm not sure whether it'll work or not with the -f option)
[09:27] <varunendra> lias81, a working internet connection could make things a breeze. Can't you get a wired connection for the moment? If not, what is the problem with the wireless connection (have you tried the "nmcli" command yet?)
[09:27] <nearst> try purge ppa , but that pc also offline. ^^
[09:27] <lias81> varunendra:  i will probably need a wired connection
[09:28] <thonza> ??
[09:28] <thonza> Why you need internet
[09:29] <lias81> varunendra: my pc can "see" the available wifi but it cant connect
[09:29] <varunendra> lias81, unless some networking service has crashed (or not started at this stage), you can use the "nmcli" command to activate a connection that you might have been using.
[09:29] <newbieAlert> hey hi all. Whats the way to corrupt the selective fields of SuperBlock of a USB stick ??
[09:29] <nearst> lias81, purge ppa, update and upgrade
[09:29] <yossarianuk> hi - is anyone aware if you can load an installed OS in RAM like you can with the livecd - i.e https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[09:29] <varunendra> lias81, what is the name of that connection (profile name - by which you saved that connection)?
[09:29] <ravindu> Hi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?
[09:30] <nearst> sudo nmcli nm
[09:30] <UnderAttackGAZA> .
[09:30] <lias81> varunendra: i will type profile name lias wifi klanitsa?
[09:31] <varunendra> nearst, lias81 the usual command to use an existing (saved) connection is : "nmcli con up id <profile id of the connection>"
[09:32] <varunendra> lias81, if the profile name contains blank spaces, you must enclose it within double-quotes
[09:32] <ravindu> Hi guys, I installed Ubuntu on my laptop that has a Bisoncam NB Pro webcam built in. The hardware for the webcam ('Bisoncam NB Pro') gets detected, but when I can't seem to get a picture out of it. How do I fix this?
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <newbieAlert> ??
[09:32] <thonza> omg
[09:33] <nearst> !spam | newbieAlert
[09:33] <newbieAlert> sorry
[09:33] <ravindu> Hello, will anyone help me/
[09:34] <lias81> status activating and after 90 secs is timed out
[09:34] <zubairahmed> please wait your turn ravindu
[09:34] <varunendra> thonza, your problem sounds like an acpi issue. I have no experience with that, but some users at ubuntuforums do have good experience with power issues.
[09:34] <ravindu> zubairahmed: okay.
[09:34] <varunendra> !anyone | ravindu
[09:34] <ravindu> varunendra: ?
[09:35] <nearst> !ask | ravindu
[09:35] <Gaza_Palestine> Gaza Burning! http://t.co/g1J5GN3VDQ
[09:35] <thonza> ravindu: help this man
[09:35] <ravindu> ubottu: okay.
[09:35] <varunendra> ravindu, I was trying to trigger the bot.... failed... nearst did it correctly above :)
[09:35] <nearst> lol
[09:36] <varunendra> thonza, have you tried 'fancontrol' program yet?
[09:36] <thonza> yes
[09:37] <thonza> no problem here
[09:37] <TurkActivist> 70 Gazans killed in Israeli ground assault http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/361192--70-gazans-killed
[09:37] <nearst> !offtopic | TurkActivist
[09:37] <yossarianuk> TurkActivist: no matter how morally correct the things your posting - its very much offtopic - i.e here is not the place.
[09:37] <varunendra> thonza, that was my first and probably last suggestion (apart from some weird boot options which I don't understand much myself)
[09:38] <lias81> my friends , as you can see it is hopeless. i will erase everything
[09:38] <ravindu> Anyone?
[09:39] <nearst> lias81, u need Internet connection to purge broken package and doin upgrade normally
[09:39] <nick07> my cpu fan on 14.04 is never going to spin if the laptop is turned on. Only after the laptop went overheated and cooled down a bit I starts spinning
[09:39] <nick07> any ideas?
[09:39] <lias81> nearst:  do you think is only an internet problem?
[09:39] <varunendra> lias81, perhaps as my last suggestion, please also try - "apt-get --print-uris -f install" Does it return any download URIs?
[09:40] <varunendra> lias81, I am basically a wireless troubleshooter, but that will probably another long road.
[09:40] <varunendra> probably be*
[09:41] <lias81> varunendra: it gives me two url's
[09:41] <nearst> lias81, try this. sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz && sudo setsid unity , sudo restart lightdm restart and try login again.
[09:42] <nearst> *sudo service lightdm restart
[09:42] <varunendra> lias81, only two? sure? and no errors?
[09:44] <LinX64> ohh dear
[09:44] <varunendra> ravindu, which program are you using to use the webcam?
[09:44] <LinX64> hi my friends
[09:44] <ravindu> varunendra: cheese webcam booth
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: I tried accessing the webcam with lots of programs, but I still get a black screen
[09:45] <LinX64> :|
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: I believe that I might need a better driver for it.
[09:45] <varunendra> ravindu, please also try 'guvcview' if haven't already. It offers a lot more controls than cheese
[09:45] <ravindu> varunendra: How can i download a webcam driver for Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:45] <LinX64> varunendra :how sre you?
[09:45] <LinX64> are*
[09:45] <toolazyforaname> LinX64: ask your ubuntu related question. there is no need for greetings
[09:46] <LinX64> ok ok:d
[09:46] <varunendra> ravindu, webcam drivers are, as far as I know, generic and are already available in default installation (or come with the programs you use as frontends)
[09:46] <gustavo> Hi
[09:46] <LinX64> wlc new user's
[09:46] <varunendra> I am fine by the way LinX64 :p
[09:46] <viscera> Can I disable fade animations when I show desktop and switch windows?
[09:46] <ravindu> varunendra: well, what should I do to get this think to work?
[09:46] <LinX64> :d
[09:46] <viscera> They're kinda slow.
[09:46] <LinX64> this is not chatroom ok ?:D
[09:47] <gustavo> Will Ubuntu 14.10 come with new icons???
[09:47] <LinX64> :-?
[09:47] <LinX64> maybe..
[09:47] <LinX64> wlc
[09:47] <toolazyforaname> gustavo: not sure, but you can install custom ions if you like
[09:47] <varunendra> ravindu, I am not a webcam or video expert, but please install 'guvcview' first, and let us know if it does any miracle.
[09:47] <LinX64> toolazy
[09:47] <gustavo> I hope so, the old ones are dated.
[09:47] <viscera> gustavo: be thankful for the old ones, most distros are ugly as hell
[09:47] <LinX64> best desktop's for ubuntu ?
[09:47] <ravindu> varunendra: sudo apt-get install guvcview?
[09:48] <gustavo> Hahahahaha I guess
[09:48] <varunendra> ravindu, yup
[09:48] <ravindu> LinX64: UNITY!!!
[09:48] <ravindu> varunendra: Thanks
[09:48] <viscera> (although gradients are looking dated)
[09:48] <toolazyforaname> ravindu:  get out
[09:48] <LinX64> ok
[09:48] <toolazyforaname> :P
[09:48] <LinX64> sudo apt-get install UNITY
[09:48] <LinX64> ?
[09:48] <LinX64> im new on ubuntu
[09:48] <ikonia> LinX64: unity desktop is installed by default in ubuntu
[09:48] <ikonia> LinX64: it is the default desktop
[09:48] <viscera> LinX64: I used "tasksel install ubuntu-desktop"
[09:48] <LinX64> where is it ?
[09:48] <lias81> varunendra: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2xUHrOGZOwqbW16aGNlejNXNlF5eWZvUjN4TXA1QjdFRjNZ/edit?usp=sharing
[09:49] <LinX64> ok
[09:49] <LinX64> this is nice place for question's
[09:49] <newbieAlert> hey help with superblock corruptiion.
[09:49] <viscera> LinX64: "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" does the same thing, as far as I can tell
[09:49] <LinX64> tnx guys
[09:49] <lccadmin> I guess I've answered my own questino about capturing video (vlc) but has anyone had any luck with it ans s-video cables?  I've got weird looking video -- staticky looking with a bunch of green lines at the bottom
[09:49] <viscera> LinX64: most of mine don't get answered
[09:49] <toolazyforaname> LinX64: Its completely up to personal preference. My suggestion would be to try out many in a vm, and decide for yorself
[09:51] <varunendra> lias81, I don't believe only those two packages can fix the whole thing, but anything is possible. Please use the download URIs to download the packages on a computer which has internet connection. Then you'll need to move them to our target system (on a flash drive/cd whatever is easy for you) and install with "sudo dpkg -i *"
[09:52] <varunendra> lias81, if you wish to attempt that, I'd be glad to provide step-by-step instructions - as correctly as I can :)
[09:53] <lias81> varunendra: i ve already made a dvd to re-install ubuntu. i will try to see what programms i had installed and i will try to contect to internet by booting with live cd. will this help?
[09:54] <varunendra> lias81, a working live dvd should help a lot, at least to move the packages.
[09:54] <lias81> i ll try this
[09:55] <varunendra> lias81, some more experienced expert could possibly help you better with 'chroot' thing, but I have no experience with that.
[09:56] <lias81> varunendra: you have already did more than enough :-)
[10:05] <antithesis> Is startx supported again or still not?
[10:12] <nick07> my fan of cpu is not spinning on 14.04 so laptop shutdown after while,any idea?
[10:13] <Rohan_m> I am using Smuxi and unable to find any programming groups ???
[10:14] <Rohan_m> nick07: same happens to me
[10:14] <Rohan_m> nick07: i dont know the problem but i gess it over heating
[10:15] <Rohan_m> nick07: did u tried cleaning your heat sink and the dust inside your laptop give it a try i'm sure it'll help
[10:15] <nick07> problem is if the laptop was overheated and I wait few minutes and turn the computer ON, then the fan IS spinning...
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> nick07  same here, cannot use e.g. virtualbox, because my pc heats to fast too much
[10:15] <Rohan_m> nick07:YOu r from tropical region which country
[10:16] <nick07> ha no, holland
[10:16] <Rohan_m> nick07: did u trid to replug your ram !
[10:16] <Rohan_m> Rohan_m: and check the CPU temp logs when it shutdowns
[10:16] <nick07> no, but the fan IS working second time start
[10:17] <nick07> if i install 13.10 problem gone
[10:17] <Rohan_m> nick07: so what fan tries to cool it down but heat is so much that it cant accomodate to cool it down
[10:18] <Rohan_m> nick07: yeah i'm also using 14.04 and this problem comes to often ! i guess hey have problem with build
[10:18] <nick07> no, fan is not spinning, cpu over heats, then laptop stops. then wait few minutes, turn computer on, fan spinning
[10:19] <nick07> so, the is a prolem with 14.04?
[10:19] <nick07> *there
[10:19] <nick07> any solutons to solve it by installing something?
[10:20] <sivteck> nick07: support for 13.10 ended recently. Try installing 14.04 and see.
[10:20] <nick07> this is 14.04 and that gives the problem
[10:20] <sivteck> nick07: ah, sorry.
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> the heating problem started with 14.04 and everything derived from it
[10:20] <nick07> sensor-detects nothing, only NO NO NO
[10:21] <nick07> is the problem in the 14.04 kernel?
[10:22] <solarfly> nick07 do a google search on "ubuntu 14.04 fan not working" there are many, many articles posted just this year on this issue
[10:22] <k1l> !away > Power_OFF
[10:22] <nick07> did that, no solution
[10:22] <MonkeyDust> nick07  i'm reading this http://refugeeks.com/use-tlp-to-optimize-the-power-consumption-in-ubuntu/
[10:23] <nick07> I installed tlp already, nothing changed
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> nick07  hm, same here
[10:24] <nick07> so, then I go back to 13.10 i think
[10:24] <nearst> not sure, im use liquorix
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> nick07  that's unsupported, you'll find no help or updated for it, if you want an earlier version, use 12.04
[10:25] <nick07> just need a working fan and xmbc, thats it
[10:25] <ravindu> Guys, why doesn't gksu /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text %F not launch sublime text? The file path is correct
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  try first without %F
[10:26] <nearst> sublime not from repo ?
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: It doesn't work without $F either
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: *%F
[10:27] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: sudo subl works however... Why is that?
[10:28] <antithesis> Is startx supported?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  use this command: whereis sublime_text
[10:28] <ravindu> /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  and: ls -l /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  i want to see if it's zxecutable or not
[10:30] <ravindu> -rwxr--r-- 1 ravindu ravindu 5152768 Jan 22 20:41 /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  try: chmod 666 [path/to/file]
[10:34] <PowerKiller> ah
[10:34] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: It doesn't work...
[10:34] <PowerKiller> np I'm leaving #ubuntu then
[10:36] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: I used chmod +x /opt/sublime_text/sublime_text and now sudo sublime_text works
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  and if you go to the folder and then run sublime_text
[10:36] <ravindu> why doesnt gksu or gksudo work with it?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  does gksu synatpic work?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  does gksu synaptic work?
[10:38] <ravindu> yep.
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  ok, so that's not it...
[10:38] <ravindu> so how do I make it work?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> ravindu  beats me, frankly, i'm not familiar with sublime_text... did you get it from the repo's?
[10:40] <ravindu> i actually downloaded it from their website and installed it on my machine...
[10:41] <zyntux> hey
[10:41] <ravindu> MonkeyDust: g2g. Thanks anyways for trying to help me :)
[10:51] <jatt> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now i get the following message when trying to double click on a external usb drive: http://picpaste.com/ar-AHJZ0ImZ.png
[10:51] <jatt> how can I avoid to have to give username/password?
[10:51] <jatt> I mean password
[10:59] <Jackripthatdoor> what's the file manager used in Gnome?
[10:59] <DJones> Jackripthatdoor: Nautilus
[11:00] <Jackripthatdoor> confirmed.
[11:00] <DJones> Jackripthatdoor: At least thats what I'm assuming it is, possibly shows up as Files or Nautilus
[11:01] <lias81> varunendra: toolazyforaname nearst  what a foolllliiiiiish Am I?!?!?! there is an option when you boot from a live cd , that states you can re-install your ububtu `4,04 and your files wont be deleted! I completely forgot that option. I am wondering if the programms will be there after the re-installing is completed. anyway i will it in few minutes and i ll inform you
[11:02] <nearst> lias81, it will not touch your /home data
[11:13] <lias81> nearst: i pray for it :-p
[11:15] <lias81> nearst: will this action fix all my installation problems?
[11:15] <AlexPortable>  installed ginome session fallback, how can I remove the shutdown icon in the right bottom corner?
[11:18] <basiclaser> where are shared libraries in 14.04? :) I need to add in libudev.so.0
[11:18] <nearst> lias81, hope so
[11:22] <lias81> nearst: I did it ! all my files are there! but all my programms are missing. and still i cant connec to wifi.!!! but when i was with live cd i was conected
[11:22] <basiclaser> lias81: wifi PW might not have been retained, put the PW in again?
[11:23] <lias81> pw?
[11:23] <kristenbb> hello, how can I edit the grub file ? I have installed 14.04 on dual boot, but I keep going back to 12.04, there is no entry to go to 14.04.
[11:23] <basiclaser> lias81: password
[11:23] <lias81> i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn
[11:25] <lias81> nearst: i mean it isnt able to see any wifi! only wired connections and vpn
[11:31] <kokiking> hola
[11:32] <kokiking> algien save como liverar un router?
[11:32] <k1l> !es | kokiking
[11:41] <apb1963> I want to move my /home to a new drive.  What is the recommended ubuntu 12.04 way to do so?
[11:42] <bazhang> !home
[11:42] <apb1963> ty
[11:49] <emx> "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" <-- do i get this message because 12.10 is not supported anymore?
[11:49] <k1l> emx: yep. 12.10 should not be run anymore
[11:53] <philinux> emx;~ you can see here what's going on, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:53] <emx> k1l, philinux: thanks
[11:55] <emx> and when i make an update i risk a non-working installation :-/
[11:55] <apb1963> ok there's something a bit odd in that guide....
[11:56] <apb1963> It has the following lines:
[11:56] <apb1963> # (identifier)  (location, eg sda5)   (format, eg ext3 or ext4)      (some settings)
[11:56] <apb1963> UUID=????????   /media/home    ext3          defaults       0       2
[11:56] <apb1963> notice it says "(location, eg sda5)" but has "/media/home"
[11:57] <philinux> emx;~ probably better to clean install 14.04, after backing up important data
[11:58] <emx> hail to version control :)
[11:58] <apb1963> so it's referencing a device in the example... but a mount point in the "live" actual line
[11:58] <emx> the annoying thing will be to gather all the packages i have installed.
[11:59] <philinux> emx;~ packages why?
[11:59] <apb1963> I guess the UUID serves as the device... so the line is right.... but the comment isn't exactly clear.  Yes?
[12:00] <philinux> apb1963;~ my take is that in the example the user created a new partition sda5
[12:00] <BillyZane> hmm
[12:00] <emx> philinux, texmaker/latex/tex as an example. there are many packages that can be installed. i remember that it took me a few hours to have all that i need.
[12:01] <apb1963> philinux: right... like I have /dev/sda1 for my new partition
[12:01] <apb1963> philinux: but the blkid specifies the device... not "sda5".
[12:01] <philinux> apb1963;~ so the uuid refers to sdaX mounted temprarily as /media/home
[12:02]  * lias81 says  many many   T H A N K S  for their valiable help and their time to nearst, varunendra and toolazyforaname . Once again guys I really thank you. Hopefully everything is ok due to your help
[12:03] <apb1963> philinux: right... but, there's no need to mention sdaX since the UUID is the device.  This is what's confusing to me.  sdaX doesn't actually factor in at all...... yes?
[12:03] <philinux> apb1963;~ which then becomes the new /home
[12:03] <levo> is it possible to download mysql jdbc driver from apt-get?
[12:03] <philinux> apb1963;~ it's in a commented line as an aid memoir to which sda is being used
[12:05] <apb1963> philinux: I could see it as an aid to memory for someone that wrote it for themself... but as a tutorial it's slightly confusing.  Hence my confusion :)  But ok so that clarifies it.  Thank you
[12:06] <philinux> apb1963;~ if you look at you current fstab it follows the same pattern , the commented line shows sdaX and the line underneath has the uuid of sdaX
[12:07] <apb1963> philinux: not MY fstab :) Mine  had nothing but: "# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM"
[12:08] <apb1963> philinux: of course I've long since modified it... but that's all I had to start.
[12:08] <apb1963> philinux: so maybe there was something I was supposed to have done?  But never did?