[00:00] <edbian> cristian_, ufw
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, ufw
[00:00] <erUSUL> !firewall | cristian_
[00:00] <alex87> erUSUL: i add files to each of the locations, but i'll see if i can work something out with it
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, ufw is a snap to use -- much, much easier than iptables commands
[00:00] <xzeng> when i call $ xset dpms force off, why does it always turn off the backlight after a while?
[00:00] <Spaztic_One> k, well, i'll be back in a couple then
[00:00] <xzeng> *why does it always turn ON the backlight after a while
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, plus, ufw, once enabled, will automatically remain enabled after reboot, until you type "ufw disable"
[00:00] <GriFF3n> I'm having trouble trying to copy files from a NTFS drrive to my Ubuntu Server drive, url here>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583075
[00:00] <GriFF3n> anyone want to help?
[00:00] <cristian_> ufw does offer graphical management with easy log view?
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, no, but there might be some other tool written to do that
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: the ntfs is a partition, not a drive
[00:00] <vinc1> The log is pretty straight-forward.
[00:00] <GriFF3n> yea, sorry bout that
[00:00] <vinc1> It used to go to syslog, but I think the newer versions go to /var/log/ufw.log
[00:00] <xzeng> anyone?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: if you have write access the the ubuntu partition and read access to the ntfs partition you are all set
[00:00] <GriFF3n> the drive is formatted in NTFS, and i have it mounted with ntfs-3g
[00:00] <jeeves_Moss> I know Ubuntu's ruby package is messed, but I can't remember the work around for this error.  anyone?  http://pastebin.ca/1949976
[00:00] <vinc1> cristian_, the log is pretty straight-forward when you read it. Tells you who came in, what happened, where they wanted to go, etc.
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> GriFF3n: if you run: mount   you will see the permissions on the mount
[00:00] <cristian_> vinc1, i am searching for such tool, a tool with a graphical environment on outside control, something like a webpage.
[00:00] <etrnl> Anyone familiar with touchscreens and getting them calibrated in ubuntu?
[00:00] <dgtl> hi, can anyone help me? parted says, i have overlapping partitions
[00:00] <dominicdinada> effin finally i can connect to the git
[00:01] <vinc1> cristian_, such a tool is probably a purchase item. Don't know of one yet with a GUI that's free. But I haven't really looked.
[00:01] <Guest42910> seriously
[00:01] <Guest42910> ..
[00:01] <GriFF3n> ran mount, everything seams ok
[00:01] <GriFF3n> go to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583075 to see the log of mount pls
[00:01] <grkblood> im trying to view a dvd of pictures that someone gave me and i cant view the dvd, this is what dmesg is telling me http://pastebin.com/YRPRXAxn
[00:02] <vinc1> cristian_, when dealing with TCP/UDP traffic on Linux, many of the tools are not GUI based, but command-line based. Just the way it's been for years. Now, there are sniffer tools that have a GUI, though. Such as Wireshark, TShark, etc.
[00:02] <Randolph> good night all
[00:02] <adaro> does anyone else have problems with chromium ? it does not do a google search anymore if i enter a search query in the browser bar
[00:02] <Jordan_U> Spaztic_One: Did you get my answer before I lost my connection?
[00:02] <vinc1> cristian_, but these GUI tools are very hard to use.
[00:03] <Spaztic_One> OK, compiz --replace fixed my problem. What had happened, and what are these errors ( http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/7BntyhMz ) talking about?
[00:03] <conb123> Does ubuntu perform dns lookups more efficiently than Windows. Because I ran namebench on windows with my isp standard dns and it told me google public dns would be 50% faster , I then ran exactly the same thing in ubuntu and it told me that it would only be 4.8% faster
[00:03] <vinc1> must go. bbfn
[00:03] <Spaztic_One> Jordan_U: no, I did not.
[00:03] <Jordan_U> Spaztic_One: You can get to a terminal via ctrl+alt+F1 (ctrl+alt+F7 to get back) then run "DISPLAY=:0.0 metacity --replace"
[00:03] <edbian> Spaztic_One, compiz crashed.  Looks like something low level in the code.
[00:03] <Guymed> Hey, could anyone help me? When I get the five dots in the first ubuntu screen during install, my screen goes blank and my computer hangs
[00:03] <cjmaynar> hey question for you guys, i'm working on upgrading django 1.1.1 that comes with 10.04 to django 1.2.3
[00:03] <cjmaynar> but having some problems
[00:03] <cristian_> vinc1 i know. but i want to make something nice and easy to manage. i found smoothwall that is great, but i want something like that from ubuntu. this is why i ask here.
[00:03] <soreau> Spaztic_One: Those are not errors, they are warning messages and are safe to ignore
[00:03] <grkblood> anyone?
[00:04] <soreau> edbian: That output indicates no problem
[00:04] <edbian> soreau, :)
[00:04] <cjmaynar> i've removed 1.1.1, and downloaded the 1.2.3 tarball, and run the setup.py install, and got no luck there
[00:04] <Wally__> edb
[00:04] <soreau> edbian: not funny.
[00:04] <Wally__> edbian,
[00:04] <Guymed> I can't use the nomodeset or xforcevesa commands during install
[00:04] <edbian> soreau, Thank you for explaining.  I didn't think it was funny
[00:04] <edbian> Wally__,
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Guymed: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[00:05] <Spaztic_One> OK, well, how do I make this fix permanent so I can close that terminal without my problems coming right back?
[00:05] <edbian> Spaztic_One, Go to system -> preferences -> appearences -> desktop effects and switch them to normal
[00:05] <grkblood> im trying to view a dvd of pictures that someone gave me and i cant view the dvd, this is what dmesg is telling me http://pastebin.com/YRPRXAxn, anyone got a suggestion?
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: you will need to add an entry in your startup items to run the command
[00:07] <Spaztic_One> Well, what caused this to start happening in the first place?
[00:12] <Guymed> Thanks!
[00:15]  * crack05 is away (Gone)
[00:26] <Wally__> edbian, I have a folder full of pictures and I wanna print out a cheat sheet of thumbnails.  Like 25 per page.
[00:26] <edbian> Wally__, You need special software afaik.
[00:26] <Wally__> ok
[00:26] <edbian> Spaztic_One, I don't know.  I'm not sure that turning compiz on will fix it.
[00:26] <edbian> Spaztic_One, You should try and test.
[00:26] <agentgasmask> wii edbain
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: possibly new video driver causing compiz not to load properly and bomb but a manual execution works
[00:26] <edbian> agentgasmask, yes?
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> Spaztic_One: could be a miryad of stuff
[00:26] <agentgasmask> edbian: sorry, I'm just trying out some irc command, I'm new... :)
[00:26] <agentgasmask> *commands
[00:26] <edbian> agentgasmask, no worries
[00:26] <conb123> Which command lists the dns server in use in ubuntu?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> conb123: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[00:26] <dominicdinada> i keep getting an error about libmp3lame not being installed but even when installed the aptitude version is libmp3lame0    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 step 4
[00:26] <conb123> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip: Thanks
[00:26] <Jordan_U> conb123: You're welcome.
[00:26] <jimms> aeon-ltd: thank you for your help anyway
[00:26] <conb123> Jordan_U, ActionParsnip: Hmm, I just added google public dns as my primary dns and my isp's as secondary. However my isp's is the only one in resolv.conf
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: how did you add it?
[00:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Network Manager
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: did you restart network manager?
[00:26] <conb123> ActionParsnip: Ah, of course, forgot about that, thanks
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> conb123: :)
[00:26] <kneaux> i need some help with runlevels for a script i've put in /etc/init.d/
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel
[00:26] <Weapon_X> Hey all
[00:26] <Weapon_X> I've got a problem with my ubuntu machine
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Weapon_X
[00:26] <Weapon_X> hey ActionParsnip
[00:26] <conb123> Oh, also, does anyone know if the updated kernel in maverick fixed the ati issues?
[00:26] <Weapon_X> I am getting an error when I boot everything saying that my iceauthority cannot update
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  I couldnt tell you .. I dont have ati on my machines here
[00:26] <Weapon_X> its giving me all sorts of problems.  I have read online and they are telling me to enter safe mode
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  did you ask in #ubuntu+1 ?
[00:26] <Weapon_X> but my ubuntu machine will not give me that option
[00:26] <ABGD> hey people, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu i'm new to linux-world but loving it, what are some of your recommended first things to do on a fresh install?
[00:26] <conb123> coz_: I might do yeah, I had to revert my kernel since the new kernel broke support for my 5750
[00:26] <Weapon_X> ABGD, is it a desktop or laptop
[00:26] <coz_> conb123,  ok understood...well... #ubuntu+1  is the channel for maverick... it is also the channel when a new version of ubuntu is underdevelopment
[00:26] <LjL^> !netsplit
[00:26] <edbian> ABGD, Check out the repos.
[00:26] <edbian> ABGD, An operating system is a tool.  That question is sort of like asking "I just got a new table saw, what should I do?"  You get yourself a project that's what you do.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ABGD: use it and get used to it, also install ubuntu-restricted-extras if you are legally OK to do so
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> ABGD: if you need DVD playback then get that sorted
[00:26] <dominicdinada> your effin kidding me
[00:26] <dominicdinada> libmp3lame has not been updated in the repos since 2008
[00:26] <dominicdinada> smh
[00:26] <Shaul> ppq: how to build deb that doesn't use usr/local folder for binaries
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> dominicdinada: find a ppa then
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | dominicdinada
[00:26] <ppq> !packaging
[00:27] <ppq> Shaul, ^
[00:27] <dominicdinada> ty action
[00:28] <dominicdinada> but ffmpeg forcing for the 3.98.3 >= libmp3lame
[00:28] <lirakis> hey all
[00:28] <lirakis> im using calibre
[00:28] <lirakis> but it doesnt detect my sony prs-500 unless i am roo
[00:28] <lirakis> *root
[00:29] <lirakis> does any one know the permissions (group) i need to be a part of to have calibre detect my reader?
[00:29] <dominicdinada> ActionParsnip: but ffmpeg forcing for the 3.98.3 >= libmp3lame
[00:29] <lirakis> right now it only works when i run it as root
[00:30] <Shaun> omg, netsplit, neardeath experience
[00:30] <lirakis> yeah jeeze
[00:30] <lirakis> that was a massive scroll
[00:30] <Shaul> yup
[00:31] <Shaun> it chucked me in ubuntu-unregged, where floodbot is flooding madly
[00:31] <LjL> well there's a reason it's called floodbot!
[00:31] <[IRAQI]> is there easy way to create netowrk connection ( share files/print) PC (Windows XP ) and Laptop (Ubunutu 10) ? easy way
[00:32] <Shaun> LjL: of course
[00:32] <Zelfje> [IRAQI]: SAMBA
[00:32] <mcgyber0o0> i have a problem with grub. I had to reinstall ubuntu and it won't load windows 7. I have had this problem before but someone fixed it for me by having me insert a string of commands into the grub file. i can't remember what i did or had to do.
[00:33] <[IRAQI]> Zelfje: samba ?mean
[00:33] <Zelfje> file sharing for windoze
[00:34] <Zelfje> google ()
[00:34] <LjL> !samba
[00:34] <lirakis> does any one know the permissions (group) i need to be a part of to have caliber detect my sony reader?
[00:35] <lirakis> right now it only connects when i run caliber as root
[00:35] <undecim> can someone tell me how to stream pulseaudio to a Windows client?
[00:35] <[IRAQI]> thanks.......................................................................................... :)
[00:35] <ABGD> Weapon_X: It's a desktop
[00:36] <ABGD> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu-restricted-extras what is the legal issues with that ?
[00:36] <mcgyber0o0> i have a problem with grub. I had to reinstall ubuntu and it won't load windows 7. I have had this problem before but someone fixed it for me by having me insert a string of commands into the grub file. i can't remember what i did or what i had to do.
[00:37] <undecim> mcgyber0o0: Have you updated your software packages yet?
[00:37] <mcgyber0o0> you mean the update in administrative options?
[00:37] <Name141> how do I reinstall a package fully, including old config files ?
[00:38] <Shaun> is not being able to access windows such a bad thing?
[00:38] <mcgyber0o0> well i game so yes
[00:38] <mcgyber0o0> i have a good amount of money put into games
[00:38] <edbian> Name141, you purge it first then install it.  It won't take care of ~/.files though  those you have to delete manually
[00:38] <Zelfje> Name141: sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[00:38] <Zelfje> then reinstall
[00:39] <Dulak> Name141: sudo apt-get remove packagename && sudo apt-get purge packagename && sudo apt-get install packagename
[00:39] <Shaun> will dpkg --reconfigure grub give you the nice ncurses menu for electing to have windows in your menu, mcgyber0o0?
[00:39] <Shaun> really sorry, i've used arch for too long and don't have a debian box hanging around atm
[00:40] <mcgyber0o0> well windows 7 shows up in grub but it says device not found
[00:40] <Shaun> ahh, it's prob chosen the wrong partition to boot from
[00:40] <mcgyber0o0> i have my ubuntu on sdb and windows and grub on sda
[00:43] <Shaun> mcgyber0o0: sent pm as don't know whether #ubuntu tolerates pasting
[00:43] <disappearedng> I need to install windows in a virtual environment for Web development. What are the best virtual box available for this task?
[00:43] <jeeves_moss> what's up with the new floodbot?  it's annoying
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> Shaun: ubuntu does tolerate pasting as long as its one line if not use pastebin
[00:44] <edbian> disappearedng, I like virtual box
[00:44] <jeeves_moss> what is the package for ruby's net-ssh in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <jeeves_moss> what is the package for ruby's net-ssh in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <xbonesx> anyone know if the plymouth boot screen issue is fixed in 10.10?
[00:47] <irule> that antispambot BOT is weird lol
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> !10.10 | xbonesx
[00:49] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[00:50] <mcgyber0o0> /dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
[00:50] <teage> unsober, are you using a cd?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: "sudo update-grub" should add a windows entry to your grub.cfg automatically then.
[00:51] <RJ_F1> hey, how come when i join This channel, I get redirected to the spambot checker thing? (every single time?)
[00:51] <Jordan_U> !register | RJ_F1
[00:51] <edbian> RJ_F1, Because of spammers.
[00:51] <RJ_F1> i have registered my nick.
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Generating grub.cfg ...
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-20-generic
[00:52] <RJ_F1> so, i dont understand why im sent there?
[00:52] <FloodBot1> mcgyber0o0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.31-20-generic
[00:52] <mcgyber0o0> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic
[00:52] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | mcgyber0o0
[00:52] <maco> RJ_F1: are you not identifying after registering
[00:52] <maco> RJ_F1: ?
[00:52] <edbian> RJ_F1, It makes sure your human and not a robot.
[00:53] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Try rebooting now and there should be an option to boot windows.
[00:54] <xbonesx> ActionParsnip: TY
[00:54] <teage> RJ_F1, we dont want to end up like yahoo chat with a bunch of porn bots and alike.
[00:54] <macmar> so i am having a problem getting skype to work with my web cam; It does work in cheese; I have looked at the wiki and saw about preload v4l1compat.so but still when i go to look at the video in options > video> test all it comes back is black but the little blue light by the webcam does come on; its built in laptop microdia sonix usb 2.0 camera any hints or pointing to reading material?
[00:54] <Agent001> I'm having trouble having google earth work on my ubuntu system. It quickly exits when I start up
[00:55] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[00:55] <Name141> how do I clean out old data? apt-get autoremove, apt-get clean , apt-get autoclean ?
[00:55] <Name141> is that the only options?
[00:56] <teage> Name141, no thats not the only option, i will give you a link for a script. works perfectly
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you run:  dpkg -l | grep ^rc   you should see the packages which are removed but have old configs left
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you then run: sudo dpkg -P packagename     it wil remove the config
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Name141: it may be: dpkg -l | grep rc   if ^rc shows nothing
[00:57] <WXZ> is there anyway to save screen
[00:57] <Jbirky> I want to install an Ubuntu server that hosts windows file shares
[00:57] <Name141> ActionParsnip: it shows the package I want to remove the old config for
[00:58] <WXZ> w/out the save screen dialogue popping up?
[00:58] <Jbirky> Can I do that and make authentication through the Domain work?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Name141: if you want to remove the config when you remove the package then use --purge when you use apt-get
[00:58] <Name141> ActionParsnip: but then what?
[00:58] <teage> Name141, this will clear your coach, sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[00:58] <irule> I think that your ati-spam-bot-bot is not compatible with linux xchat, xchat has my stuff to register, but it looks like it opens channels before giving password
[00:59] <alanedukedotorg> sup guys
[00:59] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I assume I will have to reinstall the package, then sudo apt-get --purge remove pacakge ?
[00:59] <agentgasmask> alanedukedotorg: Hi
[00:59] <teage> Name 141 this is the link for the script, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubucleaner-simple-bash-script-to-keep-your-ubuntu-system-clean.html
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Name141: no, just use: sudo dpkg -P packagename   and it will remove the config
[00:59] <Name141> package*
[01:01] <larnak> hi
[01:01] <Name141> ActionParsnip: ok, then if the package doesn't rerun like it used to when I install it, I should look to see what's wrong other wise?
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> Name141: you should laso make sure there is not a config folder for it in $HOME as purge doesn't remove those
[01:02] <agentgasmask> Hey guys. I'm looking at a tutorial to chroot jail irssi, and they use a program called "jail" http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/ I ran it on a virtual machine to test. Can anyone vouch for it?
[01:02] <yogurt_truck> what determines the behavior of autocomplete? i've added a new user and he's tab key doesn't autocomplete but rather inserts a plain tab, whereas if i su - him, it does
[01:03] <yogurt_truck> autocomplete on the terminal, i mean.
[01:03] <yogurt_truck> maybe this is a bash question. nvm.
[01:03] <Jordan_U> yogurt_truck: My guess is that you actually just have a file named "$USER" in the user's home directory, and you're getting file completion.
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> yogurt_truck: copy in the ~/.bashrc from the working user to the bad user and chown it to the bad user, you can then reopen a new console as the bad user or run: source ~/.bashrc
[01:04] <Name141> ActionParsnip: laso ?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Name141: also*
[01:05] <Name141> ActionParsnip: Doh!
[01:05] <Name141> ActionParsnip: that was the issue
[01:05] <Name141> I removed the configs and it remade'em
[01:07] <yogurt_truck> ActionParsnip: he has .bashrc automatically created by the adduser command
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> yogurt_truck: yes but there is a section commented out, if you have a good one flapping around you can simply copy it :)
[01:08] <Dulak> yogurt_truck: the quick fix is to set his terminal to be a login shell by default, should be an option in the prefs for whatever terminal he's using
[01:08] <^Mike\b> When will ubuntu get perl 5.12?
[01:09] <maco> ^Mike\b: maybe 11.04.. is it in debian sid?
[01:09] <^Mike\b> maco: I'm not sure... let's check...
[01:09] <maco> ^Mike\b: i just relised i can look that up
[01:09] <^Mike\b> also, omg, maco is talking to me :O
[01:09] <maco> O_o
[01:09] <yogurt_truck> oh wait. does useradd set a default shell for the user? he seems to be using sh instead of bash, because i told him to execute "bash" and he said "oh now it works"
[01:10] <^Mike\b> maco: I've heard of you before :D
[01:10] <maco> ^Mike\b: its in experimental, so itll be in sid in time for 11.04
[01:10] <IdleOne> maco: is a Rock Star in the community!
[01:10] <^Mike\b> maco: sweet, thanks :)
[01:10] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, yes it does.  If i recall you can change it by editing /etc/passwd
[01:10]  * maco blushes and hides
[01:10] <tarabaz> somebody know when we can play with gnome 3.0. i think in 11.04, but is there is some add repo with alfa or something?
[01:11] <maco> tarabaz: i think its all packaged in universe...
[01:11] <Name141> Ok , next question is I used gparted to gain back space that was in a partition.  Now it automounts to "media/e707c3b6-5bcb-45a3-9369-bb00f7715f88" , is there a way I can fix that and make it readable/usable for myself?  Currently it only allows root.
[01:11] <yogurt_truck> mattgyver: ah there it is. thx!
[01:11] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, np, theres another way to do it too but i always rememeber that ;)
[01:12] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, oh yeah I think its change the $SHELL environment variable in .bash_profile or whatever
[01:12] <yogurt_truck> kinda weird that useradd generated a home dir for him with a .bashrc but then set /bin/sh as the default shell :)
[01:13] <yogurt_truck> oh i see
[01:13] <mattgyver> yogurt_truck, man, im full of thoughts, but i think you can specify their shell with -s with useradd
[01:13] <Dulak> yogurt_truck: sudo chsh -s /bin/bash username
[01:14] <yogurt_truck> oh, good to know. thx guys.
[01:14] <xbonesx> "-r" when using "cp" cause the files in the directory to be moved as well correct?
[01:14] <mattgyver> xbonesx, cp will copy them, if you want them moved just use mv
[01:15] <Dulak> xbonesx: yes that's short for recursive
[01:15] <WXZ> does anyone know how to copy to clipboard directly?
[01:15] <WXZ> when taking a screenshot?
[01:15] <xbonesx> mattgyver, Dulak: TY
[01:15] <Dulak> xbonesx: 'cp -rp sourcdir destination' will do it recursively and preserve permissions
[01:16] <mattgyver> WXZ, just use gnome-screenshot??
[01:16] <WXZ> but it makes a window pop up
[01:16] <xbonesx> "sudo cp -R INT2MIL-Ubuntu-10.04-Eng/ /lib/plymouth/themes/" <--- so this will move the file within the drectory but not the folder???
[01:16] <WXZ> I don't want that window to pop up
[01:16] <Dulak> xbonesx: -r not -R
[01:17] <xbonesx> Dulak: differences?
[01:17] <Dulak> xbonesx: -R is for chmod, not cp
[01:17] <xbonesx> Dulak: so in essence it will "chmod 755" the copied directory as well?
[01:18] <Dulak> xbonesx: what you posted there will copy (not move) and result in this: /lib/plymouth/themes/INT2MIL-Ubuntu-10.04-Eng/
[01:18] <xbonesx> Dulak: correct, sry i meant to say copy not move...
[01:18] <xbonesx> Dulak: :p
[01:18] <Dulak> xbonesx: nvm, I guess -R and -r are the same, they didn't used to be
[01:19] <xbonesx> Dulak: ok TY
[01:20] <xbonesx> Dulak: if i were to type "gksu nautilus" (it brings up a WM) can i move files in and out of "rooted" directory with permissions?
[01:20] <Dulak> xbonesx: you prolly want -rp otherwise all the files will get perms set according to the umask set in your shell, just fyi
[01:20] <Dulak> xbonesx: not sure on how nautilus would handle that, never done it myself
[01:21] <xbonesx> Dulak: should try it out and test its abilities really quick if you dont mind...
[01:22] <Dulak> xbonesx: how about you test it and let me know?  I don't have any need to do that, I use the terminal for that type of thing.  I'm old.
[01:23] <Dulak> This whole gui thing confuses me, and makes me cranky.
[01:24] <xbonesx> Dulak: lol no problem, i need to get used to using the term more anyways... this "http://paste.ubuntu.com/501840/" is where that command came from, after reviewing do you still think i should use "-rp" rather than "-R"
[01:24] <Quutar> I am trying to compile gcc under ubuntu 10.04.1 and I am getting this error - http://pastebin.com/s7dW8Yda (all the help i could find says to install ia32-libs-dev but it is no more... i tried those three suggestions... still no dice)
[01:25] <jrib> Quutar: why are you compiling gcc instead of using the gcc in the repositories?
[01:25] <Quutar> i want 4.5.1 with three optional libraries
[01:25] <jrib> Quutar: why?
[01:25] <Dulak> xbonesx: without the p all the files copied will get the perms reset to say 755, if your umask is 022 which is default.  With the p it will preserve the existing perms on the files, which is what you want.  -r or -R they are identical, one is an alias for the other
[01:25] <Quutar> i want the link time optimizations, the ppl, and the gloog additions
[01:26] <Quutar> to test if they make a difference
[01:26] <mgmuscari1> does anyone know if there's a way to attach to an X process that's running? say if my school's terrible wifi drops my connection and i lose my ssh session
[01:26] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[01:26] <xbonesx> Dulak: when messing with the plymouths files do i want that?
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> exit
[01:26] <xbonesx> Dulak: im not sure how the original creator had the files setup...
[01:26] <jrib> !compile > Quutar
[01:26] <Quutar> i am trying to test the performance of an application... and was informed by someone to try those optuions... i don't think it will make a difference... but i need to do the due dilligence
[01:27] <xbonesx> Dulak: those are the instruction given with the files...
[01:27] <grml> hellp
[01:27] <grml> hello
[01:27] <Dulak> xbonesx: you almost always want the p, I don't remember the last time I used cp without -p
[01:27] <grml> I am new to ubuntu.  Coming from rpm-based.
[01:27] <Dulak> xbonesx: it might not matter at all for those files, but you can always change perms later if it makes a difference
[01:28] <grml> I set up ubuntu server and moved it to a new environment.  I couldn't get networking up.  I uninstalled kvm as it was not needed.  Now I have no network device.
[01:28] <grml> Please help me to get this online.
[01:28] <grml> all ifconfig lists is lo for network devices.
[01:28] <Quutar> jrib... I am not overwriting the gcc in the OS... I am using the --prefix=/home/quu/gcc and even then... this is in a virtualbox install of ubuntu
[01:29] <jrib> Quutar: that's fine, did you try what that page suggests?
[01:29] <grml> btw: I am using ubuntu server.  No gui.
[01:29] <Quutar> yea... i actually read that page before I began
[01:30] <Quutar> it was really helpful (I did not know about the apt-get build-dep)
[01:30] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[01:31] <jrib> Quutar: make sure you can rebuild the gcc that's in the repositories first
[01:32] <xbonesx> Dulak: do you by chance know what the perms for the files should be?
[01:32] <xbonesx> Dulak: or a way i can find out?
[01:33] <tdroid> Anyone know how to fix wireless on 10.04 for an Aspire One? I'm getting CRC errors on everything I download.
[01:33] <Dulak> xbonesx: typically they are set correctly when you extract them from a tar/zip, etc.  That's why I said you almost always want the -p on a cp operation
[01:34] <jrib> !away > remczas|off
[01:34] <xbonesx> Dulak: sounds good i will do so, ty for your help
[01:34] <naptastic> Is there a trick to virtualizing Ubuntu Lucid? My VM will start booting the installer but die before starting the GUI.
[01:36] <Dulak> naptastic: what version of ubuntu?
[01:36] <Quutar> jrib, how do i get the source that is in the repository for gcc?
[01:36] <jrib> Quutar: apt-get source PACKAGE
[01:36] <naptastic> Dulak, Host and guest are both 10.04. Host is x86_64 and guest is i386.
[01:37] <tdroid> naptastic, Which virtual machine? I've installed Ubuntu in VirtualBox
[01:37] <multipass> anyone elses browser crash when u right click on flash?
[01:37] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Did it work?
[01:37] <naptastic> tdroid, QEMU using virt-manager as root
[01:37] <mcgyber0o0> no
[01:37] <mcgyber0o0> grub says no such device
[01:38] <Dulak> naptastic: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_as_Guest_OS
[01:38] <naptastic> Dulak, Thank you!!!
[01:38] <zulax> i dont have /dev/cdrom...
[01:38] <zulax> so is it not installed?
[01:38] <Dulak> naptastic: might have a pointer or two that'll help, it's aimed at virtualbox though
[01:38] <ugliefrog> is ther away to chang the /tmp area to another partition
[01:39] <grml> never mind about the missing nic.  It got renamed to eth2.  Now, I can still not get on line.  Can not find route.
[01:39] <Quutar> hum... i can see gcc in the lucid package list - http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gcc - but when i try to download the source, it tells me gcc-common
[01:39] <grml> I mean gateway
[01:39] <jrib> Quutar: what are you typing?
[01:40] <Quutar> quu@linux-dev:~$ sudo apt-get source gcc
[01:40] <Quutar> Reading package lists... Done
[01:40] <Quutar> Building dependency tree
[01:40] <Quutar> Reading state information... Done
[01:40] <Quutar> Picking 'gcc-defaults' as source package instead of 'gcc'
[01:40] <FloodBot1> Quutar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:40] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: sure; create the partition, empty existing /tmp, then mount partition to /tmp
[01:40] <jrib> Quutar: you likely want gcc-4.4 or similar
[01:40] <jrib> Quutar: and no point in sudo...
[01:41] <Quutar> that worked, thank you
[01:41] <Dulak> naptastic: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/000189.html
[01:41] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: and create a line in /etc/fstab so it will get mounted automatically at boot
[01:41] <Dulak> naptastic: old but might have info that'll help
[01:42] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[01:42] <ugliefrog> VCoolio, when you say emty do you mean delete everyrhing inside?
[01:42] <VCoolio> ugliefrog: yes, or backup if you need it
[01:42] <mcgyber0o0> sure one sec
[01:42] <Name141> Where do I edit the boot configs ? I don't see that option in /etc/default/grub
[01:43] <naptastic> Dulak, thank you :-)
[01:43] <ugliefrog> VCoolio, Ok im off to get a whirl...luck for me
[01:43] <Name141> Isn't there a grub.cfg somewhere ?
[01:44] <grml> SO, thanks for nothing. Jerks!
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Name141: What option are  you looking for?
[01:44] <Dulak> That was funny.
[01:44] <Name141> Jordan_U: I just removed sda1 (which was NTFS and WindowsXP.) to ext4 and more free space.  So I need to remove the option to boot in to WindowsXP
[01:44] <Name141> From the menu
[01:44] <Jordan_U> Name141: "sudo update-grub"
[01:44] <naptastic> Name141, usually /boot/grub/grub.cfg however it's generated automatically and any changes you make will be lost whenever you (ie) install a new kernel
[01:45] <Name141> Jordan_U: It'll do it itself ?
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Name141: Yes.
[01:45] <mcgyber0o0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/501845/
[01:45] <Name141> Jordan_U: Ok, I'll see what happens
[01:46] <Name141> Jordan_U: it removed itself.
[01:46] <Name141> Jordan_U: however, how do I change the countdown time?
[01:46] <Braber01> um is there a way to have ubuntu use the Termnal as a login prompt / then use a command to get to my desktop?
[01:48] <tdroid> Braber01, edit /etc/init/gdb.conf and add "and never" after filesystem
[01:48] <Jordan_U> Name141: When no other OSs are detected (i.e. only the one Ubuntu install) the timeout is automatically changed to 0 (hold shift during boot to see the menu). You can override this default timeout in /etc/default/grub (be sure to run "sudo update-grub" after making changes to that file).
[01:48] <tdroid> Braber01, then use "startx" to get to your desktop
[01:49] <Braber01> tdroid: to edit that I need to use sudoedit right?
[01:50] <Name141> Jordan_U: I'm assuming GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 is the time to change
[01:50] <Jordan_U> Name141: Yes.
[01:50] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/501845/
[01:51] <Jordan_U> Name141: Here is the list of options for /etc/default/grub : http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[01:53] <Name141> Jordan_U: OK.  I just hope the OS doesn't break, the CD-RW finally croked over earlier today after install.
[01:53] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Odd. I don't see anything wrong.
[01:53] <Name141> and the machine is from 1999, so there's no USB boot option
[01:53] <Jordan_U> Name141: Boot floppy :)
[01:54] <Name141> Jordan_U: the floppy drive might still work, I have no idea lol
[01:54] <Braber01> I add never in the line that says "start on (filesystem" right?
[01:54] <mcgyber0o0> jordan_U: well someone bout a year ago told me to input some text into the grub file and that fixed it. Sound familiar? he said it wasn't loading something it should and whatever i typed fixed it.
[01:54] <docsy> anyone here managed to get tor to work with xchat?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Ahh, I think that was me actually and I see the problem now :)
[01:55] <Name141> I'd have to get some
[01:55] <Name141> all I know is it goes "grr.. " still
[01:55] <mcgyber0o0> really *_*
[01:56] <Braber01> I'll be back
[01:56] <zachlr> #ubuntu-unregged always asks me the same question; it doesn't really serve any purpose then.
[01:56] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Add "GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos" to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[01:56] <mcgyber0o0> i think that was it. what does this actually do?
[01:58] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_u: where should i add it?
[01:58] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: It makes grub load support for reading msdos partition tables. Because Ubuntu isn't using an msdos partition table (using GPT instead) it doesn't by default.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Anywhere. To the end will work.
[01:59] <mcgyber0o0> i see it says something in gparted about that not being able to load GPT.
[01:59] <dominicdinada> well what the hell
[01:59] <Braber01> okay I tried adding never to what ever file that was with out using sudoedit I'm going to need the name of the config file again
[01:59] <Braber01> and path to
[01:59] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: In Ubuntu 10.10 this won't be needed (but having it also won't hurt, so don't worry about it breaking things on upgrade).
[02:00] <mcgyber0o0> how do i edit the file?
[02:00] <Weapon_X> hats up all
[02:00] <dominicdinada> has anybody installed lame 3.98.4 in here? mine wont install it says i am missing an operand :/
[02:00] <Weapon_X> mcgyber0o0, what file
[02:00] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[02:01] <mcgyber0o0> thanks
[02:01] <aemaeth> what's the easiest way to get my server acting as a proxy?
[02:01] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: found out why i couldnt get the plymouth boot screen to change its res...
[02:01] <Weapon_X> whats the differnece with gksudo and sudo
[02:01] <VCoolio> !gksudo | Weapon_X
[02:02] <Braber01> I hate to ask the question I allredy have answered again but I want to use a termnal as a login screen and not to show my desktop and use startx etc what file to i need to edit where is it and what do I add?
[02:02] <Braber01> and where do i need to add it?
[02:02] <Braber01> the first time didn't work
[02:03] <Weapon_X> really I always use sudo
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | Weapon_X
[02:03] <dominicdinada> !server | aemaeth
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> Braber01, you could see my note for disabling gdm at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/boot-to-console---disable-graphical-login-gdm
[02:03] <aemaeth> Braber01: you mean the grub change?
[02:03] <jrib> Braber01: what do you mean "the first time didn't work"?
[02:04] <Habstinat> Help, my windows are not functioning properly and I can only copy and paste into a terminal for some reason. This happens with every window I open. See http://oi54.tinypic.com/11b6uxe.jpg , as that's a pic I took of it.
[02:04] <Aliv3> hi
[02:04] <Aliv3> im not a troll
[02:04] <jrib> Aliv3: good to hear.
[02:04] <Guest92324> i don't believe u
[02:04] <dominicdinada> i am a troll because i have not gotten the answers i seek
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[02:05] <Braber01> ameth no, I wanted a text only logint prompt
[02:06] <Guest92324> where would i find support for licensed codecs?
[02:06] <Habstinat> Has anyone ever gotten a problem similar to mine? It almost makes my machine unusable if I can't type into a terminal.
[02:06] <aemaeth> Guest92324: did you add the restricted package in synaptic?
[02:06] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: startupmanager, definitely had something to do with it, i re-installed ubuntu and the link http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml worked just fine
[02:06] <dominicdinada> Bah how should i install just the lame codecs for ffmpeg not the gui or front end ?
[02:06] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:06] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:06] <FloodBot3> Hidekazu2: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <jrib> Hidekazu2: please stop doing that
[02:07] <Aliv3> guys
[02:07] <Weapon_X> ok the gksudo command is hanging
[02:07] <Aliv3> idk what to choose im trying to install ubuntu server
[02:07] <Weapon_X> in the command line
[02:07] <Braber01> okay I've done it startx to see my desktop right?
[02:07] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: try "gksu"
[02:08] <dominicdinada> Aliv3: #ubuntu-server
[02:08] <ymasory> hi all. i deleted a user and now my system is screwed. sda1 is being mounted read-only
[02:08] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: its what i use when i want to use a gfx menu with root privs
[02:08] <Habstinat> Guys, can anyone help me out here? I can't even use a bunch of programs because of it.
[02:08] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, still the same
[02:08] <Braber01> I'll be back and tell you guys if it worked
[02:08] <jrib> !helpme | Habstinat
[02:08] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, it is still hanging
[02:08] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: restart terminal and try again
[02:08] <dominicdinada> ymasory: that is horrible :D what user did you delete Root ?
[02:08] <Weapon_X> I did twice
[02:08] <mcgyber0o0> jordan_U: what was the instructions on that again?
[02:08] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, try "compiz --replace" and/or "metacity --replace" from alt+f2
[02:08] <dominicdinada> ymasory: Daemon ?
[02:09] <Weapon_X> I should just use sudo
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: what ubuntu are you using?
[02:09] <ymasory> dominicdinada: nope just a random user
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: livecd?
[02:09] <Weapon_X> 10.04
[02:09] <Weapon_X> no
[02:09] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, installed
[02:09] <xbonesx> how are you accessing terminal?
[02:09] <ymasory> now i start, it hangs a bit after login, gnome tells me a few applets crashed (like user switcher), and then everything is read-only
[02:09] <Weapon_X> applicationbs accessories
[02:09] <Weapon_X> terminal
[02:09] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, alt-f2 does nothing.
[02:09] <ymasory> i'm not a fstab expert but it seems normal. nothing is specified as read-only
[02:09] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: huh... never heard of that, have you done much changing to the system?
[02:10] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, then from a terminal (you'll need to leave it open though)
[02:10] <Weapon_X> no
[02:10] <Weapon_X> I did have an issue today
[02:10] <dominicdinada> ymasory: that random user sounds like not just any random user
[02:10] <Weapon_X> with ICEauthority
[02:10] <Weapon_X> pain in the as
[02:10] <Weapon_X> s
[02:10] <Habstinat> I can't though, like I said I can only copy and paste text into a terminal, and for some reason you can't copy/paste from Xchat?
[02:11] <Weapon_X> omg sorry this is ubuntu desktop, just realized what room im in
[02:11] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: Is this right? GRUB_PRELOAD_MODULES=part_msdos
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: hahaha well my solution to everything is re-installing lol i use another partition for extra files and only have a 20gb partition for ubuntu
[02:11] <Habstinat> Wait, I have an idea. I'll try entering that into a browser and then copying that.
[02:11] <ymasory> dominicdinada: i promise :) it was my dad. i made him an account for the weekend. regular desktop user
[02:11] <dominicdinada> Bah how should i install just the lame codecs for ffmpeg not the gui or front end ?  doesnt seem to want to install i did make and make install :/
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: server?
[02:11] <Weapon_X> xbonesx, no desktop
[02:11] <Jordan_U> mcgyber0o0: Yes.
[02:11] <jrib> dominicdinada: why aren't you using apt?
[02:11] <xbonesx> Weapon_X: this is were you want to be then...
[02:12] <mcgyber0o0> Jordan_U: do i need to run Grub-install?
[02:12] <dominicdinada> jrib: ffmpeg requires lame 3.98.3 >=
[02:12] <Weapon_X> oh ok
[02:12] <Tweaky> anyone know a good place to pastebin a screenshot?
[02:12] <jrib> dominicdinada: ok, and my question?
[02:12] <dominicdinada> jrib apt lame 3.98.2  and 2 years old
[02:12] <dublisk> Hi, vncserver seems to be running yet ps -ef | grep vnc shows nothing
[02:12] <xbonesx> Tweaky: i use imageshack.us
[02:12] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're still not answering my question :/
[02:13] <Tweaky> xbonesx: thanks
[02:13] <xbonesx> Tweaky: np :)
[02:13] <Braber01> okay I got the thing fixed now how can I get this thing to unlock my keyring when I log in so I can use irssi after logging in?
[02:13] <dominicdinada> jrib: i think i answered the question two times already jrib
[02:13] <jrib> dominicdinada: you didn't
[02:13] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, Well, that sort of worked. I have my window tops back, but I don't have a top or bottom bar now.
[02:13] <xbonesx> Tweaky: after the image has uploaded just choose the direct url link for pasting in the IRC channel
[02:13] <jrib> dominicdinada: you keep telling me versions of lame for some reason.  I have no clue what you mean to imply with that
[02:14] <zruty> When I stick in a network PC card in my laptop how cna I make it show up as eth1 instead of eth2? eth0 is the built-in interface.
[02:14] <dominicdinada> apt version = 3.98.2    ffmpeg required versions is 3.98.3 or greater i guess those greater than or equal signs throw us all from time to time
[02:14] <Habstinat> Any idea of what could be causing this?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, try running gnome-panel then?
[02:14] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, was it the metacity that worked?
[02:14] <jrib> dominicdinada: are you trying to tell me that you get some sort of error with apt regarding versions?
[02:14] <Rotham> hey
[02:14] <Braber01> question on how to change font size @ login
[02:14] <dominicdinada> jrib:  when i try to install ffmpeg
[02:14] <Rotham> whats the default location for svn to check files out to?
[02:15] <Zelfje> ffmpeg one copy paste intall: tested it yesterday  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9114176&postcount=967
[02:15] <Habstinat> No, the compiz one.
[02:15] <jrib> dominicdinada: pastebin exactly what you execute and the full output
[02:15] <dominicdinada> jrib:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 step 4 i will install again and pastebin
[02:15] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, "Cannot register the panel shell: there is already one running."
[02:15] <Braber01> well I'm off to go surf the interwebs bye
[02:15] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're compiling things that are in the repositories :/
[02:16] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, killall gnome-panel then?
[02:16] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, That seemed to fix things. Thanks a lot.
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, glad to help
[02:17] <dominicdinada> jrib: http://pastebin.com/QwvLkTrG
[02:17] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, can you type in terminals again?
[02:18] <dublisk> I can vnc into my machine, but ps -ef | grep vnc shows nothing
[02:18] <jrib> dominicdinada: you're compiling things that are in the repositories.  Why?
[02:18] <dublisk> How is this possible ?
[02:18] <dublisk> I want to completely shut down all vnc
[02:18]  * jrib notes we're back to my first question
[02:18] <dominicdinada> jrib: hmmm ffmpeg is outdated
[02:19] <jrib> dominicdinada: what doesn't the ffmpeg in repositories do that you need?
[02:19] <dominicdinada> jrib: following a howto on the ubuntu community site
[02:19] <multipass> can i install nvidia drivers inside gnome?
[02:19] <jrib> dominicdinada: just because some puts something up on the forums doesn't mean everyone should do it
[02:19] <dominicdinada> jrib: see second answer Following the howto of the ubuntu community
[02:20] <VCoolio> multipass: no, use tty / virtual console
[02:20] <ymasory> multipass: yes go to system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[02:20] <multipass> well no these are official from website
[02:20] <jrib> dominicdinada: I'm asking *you*
[02:20] <dominicdinada> jrib: is there another ?
[02:20] <jrib> dominicdinada: what?  another what?
[02:20] <dominicdinada> jrib: howto in regards to get ffmpeg installed correctly
[02:20] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, I could do that ever since I typed in compiz --replace.
[02:21] <jrib> dominicdinada: yeah, use apt.  Then you won't have these headaches
[02:21] <dominicdinada> jrib aptitude*
[02:21] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, hummm strange.  glad you got it working.
[02:21] <jrib> dominicdinada: whatever apt frontend you want
[02:22] <dominicdinada> jrib: I thought i went this route before.
[02:22] <ZykoticK9> Habstinat, FYI you might be interested in fusion-icon it gives an icon to switch between compiz/metacity & has a reload windows manager button
[02:22] <jrib> dominicdinada: not sure what that means...
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, the point that jrib is dancing around, why are YOU using the compiled version of things instead of the repository versions?
[02:24] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: The point that I made clear is most of the repo versions are way outdated
[02:24] <ZykoticK9> !latest | dominicdinada
[02:24] <Habstinat> ZykoticK9, thanks, I'll try that out.
[02:24] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: of course i knew that was the point, As i said about 4 times... The versions are super old
[02:24] <jrib> dominicdinada: good luck with your issue.  My suggestion is you use the repositories, get rid of whatever you compiled, and try to stick with the repositories in the future
[02:25] <Braber01> question-> now that I have a text-based login how can I get my keyring actvated? or whatever you call it on login so I don't have to "startx" to go online
[02:25] <eross> do i need to disable compiz to play opengl games? a couple of windowed games seem to shear, no smooth movement
[02:25] <anand> add startx in .bashrc
[02:25] <icarus-c> anand, don't do that
[02:25] <anand> Braber01, add startx to .bashrc
[02:25] <Braber01> um no I don't want to automaticaly login like that
[02:25] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: jrib: and not to be smug i didn't ask how to install ffmpeg i asked why even after my lame make and make install all went smooth. Why it wouldnt install
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> Braber01, you'd need some method of configuring your wireless without nm-applet (the gnome application), you'd either have to use some manual network magic, or perhaps use wicd (IF it has a non-gui application)
[02:26] <anand> icarus-c, y????
[02:26] <icarus-c> anand, that will be executed everytime you run bash(e.g starting a new gnome-terminal instance)
[02:26] <aperson> would chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm make my computer boot straight to a tty?
[02:26] <anand> icarus-c, oh yes everytime we open terminal it happens... right??
[02:26] <icarus-c> anand, exactly
[02:26] <rww> !info wicd-curses | ZykoticK9, Braber01
[02:26] <lhx> you need to add it to .xinitrc
[02:26] <lhx> lol
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, which isn't really an "ubuntu" support question is it?  you might want to be asking the people that right lame (but they'll direct you back here - catch-22 situation)
[02:27] <rww> cnetworkmanager is nice too, but I don't think Lucid has it.
[02:27] <anand> icarus-c, then wer shud we add to execute at login
[02:27] <icarus-c> lhx, not really.. cause startx runs xinitrc
[02:27] <lhx> oh...
[02:27] <lhx> i didn't read very far back
[02:27] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks :)
[02:27] <lhx> though someone was trying to use .bashrc to start x
[02:27] <Braber01> I guess I'll ask my aunt then :(
[02:27] <drewbert> Anybody here have any experience getting netflix to work in virtualbox?  The video stays paused at whichever frame I seek to, and will never play.
[02:27] <mamece2> hello fellas
[02:27] <dominicdinada> ZykoticK9: and out of the 1500 active users in here i am sure that 30% of so have built and installed lame 3.98.4  for ffmpeg
[02:28] <rww> dominicdinada: I highly doubt that.
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> dominicdinada, me too
[02:28] <lhx> dominicdinada: i doubt that too... what's the point of running ubuntu if you're going to compile shit?
[02:28] <essial> Hey the people in #mac said it was dangerous to run Ubuntu 10.04 on a new iMac as it doesn't handle the fans correctly
[02:28] <essial> is this true or not
[02:28] <rww> especially considering that in the two years I've been here, I've never once seen people ask about compiling lame
[02:28] <IdleOne> !language | lhx
[02:28] <craigbass1976> essial, they might just be mac biggots...
[02:28] <dominicdinada> lhx:  your correct why not just go back to windows right ?
[02:29] <dominicdinada> lhx: or mac
[02:29] <essial> craigbass: I really really like ubuntu and want to use it on my new computer as I did on my PC
[02:29] <hiexpo> :)
[02:29]  * lhx didn't realize it was family friendly... apologies
[02:29] <essial> I just don't wanna burn up the hardware
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: there's a bit of difference... and what's wrong with mac?
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: I would not be picking a debian-based distro if i was going to compile a lot of things on my own
[02:29] <craigbass1976> essial, what's googling turned up for you?  Did you get membership in any mac forums when you bought the box?  Surely someone has tried it and wrote something about it
[02:29] <lhx> dominicdinada: that's all I meant
[02:30] <essial> I mean I have it running on my iMac right now
[02:30] <essial> I know linux very well, and no, google isn't saying much either way
[02:30] <dominicdinada> lhx:  was being facetious but now that you mention it. MACS have had the most Reported security flaws the last 2 years :D
[02:30] <lhx> essial: go get one of the free temp monitors...
[02:30] <craigbass1976> essial, have you got lmsensors installed?
[02:30] <essial> no, i'll install that
[02:30] <nomasteryoda> wow... a flood bot
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> When installing latest ubuntu I copied a bunch of repositories into my sources.list apt file. As a result I have several that aren't authenticated properly and can't use teh GUI updator - can only do it from the command line. How can I force them to authenticate?
[02:31] <lhx> dominicdinada: well... I like mac as a desktop... can't stand it as a server.
[02:31] <craigbass1976> essial, there are a couple, you may have to try more than one (not all can communicate with all boards) and just keep an eye on your temps for a while
[02:31] <icarus-c> essial, you just need to run sensors and verify fan speed (if available) and cpu temp
[02:31] <dominicdinada> lhx:  afterall MAC is a *mix
[02:31] <icarus-c> essial, and maybe hddtemp too
[02:31] <essial> well honestly, my mac runs scary hot even in OSX :p
[02:31] <dominicdinada> *nix even
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> lhx, dominicdinada the Mac conversation is OT here
[02:31] <anand> everything is from UNIX although ...........
[02:31] <craigbass1976> essial, and if you can, find out what the temps and fan speeds are supposed to be, according to Mac
[02:31] <icarus-c> Mach + NetBSD ~= Mac OS X :P
[02:31] <essial> i'm talking 73c for the "power supply sensor"
[02:32] <essial> thanks goodness I didn't buy it for gaming
[02:32] <craigbass1976> essial, I've got a dell like that, but it's bacause one of the heat sinks got loose on a quick trip down some stairs...
[02:32] <lhx> ZykoticK9: i bet you feel REALLY powerful huh?
[02:32] <essial> well although I CAN open it up I really don't want to until I pass the standard warranty period
[02:33] <dominicdinada> lhx:  dont get banned :/
[02:33] <craigbass1976> essial, no, everything is probably fine.  I knew somethign was up with mine because it was hot, I knew I dropped it, and something rattled that didn't used to.
[02:33] <essial> Is it OT? I was asking about running ubuntu on it
[02:33] <lhx> essial: Both OSX and run something CPU intensive... see what that temp is sand see what the fan rate is and then make sure ubuntu doesn't go over that
[02:33] <essial> good I loves me some ubuntu
[02:33] <craigbass1976> essial, I think there's another mac conversation going on that's not about ubuntu
[02:34] <ZykoticK9> essial, you mac issue isn't OT, but the conversation surrounding macs is :)
[02:34] <essial> ah ok :)
[02:34] <lhx> dominicdinada: no intention of getting banned... sometimes the anal retentive types really grind my gears
[02:34] <essial> well what am I doing in OSX, i'm rebooting again :p
[02:34] <rww> your discussion of what is and isn't OT is OT, this is Ubuntu support, not Ubuntu support metadiscussion.
[02:34] <craigbass1976> essial, see you later
[02:34] <mazda01> i have an ALC888 and my microphone input device just disappears. I can see it in pavucontrol and then all of a sudden it's gone. Can some help please?
[02:35] <lhx> rww: your informing us of something OT being OT being OT... is also... *gasp* OT
[02:35] <rww> it's offtopic all the way down :(
[02:36] <Jon--> I am having trouble compiling g++ code with some libraries. What do I need to add to $PATH, or ensure is already there?
[02:36] <lhx> Jon--: have you installed "build-essentials"
[02:37] <ZykoticK9> Jon--, the package is named build-essential actually
[02:38] <Jon--> ZykoticK9: lhx: Yes
[02:38] <Doyle> Started using a mail client for hte first time in years. Evolution. Is there a way to set it up so that it minimizes to tray instead of closing? The goal is to be have the new mail notification activate even when the window is closed. Thanks.
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, that would be a cool feature (i've never heard of that option in evolution, or a plugin that does that though)  hope someone gives ya an answer ;)
[02:40] <drewbert> Anybody here have any experience getting netflix to work in virtualbox?  The video stays paused at whichever frame I seek to, and will never play.
[02:40] <anand> Doyle, install a gmail notifier gadget
[02:40] <Doyle> anand: have any favorites?
[02:40] <Gimped> Doyle: not sure if this is what you're looking for but you can always use "docker" or "trayer" for minimize to tray features
[02:41] <lhx> ZykoticK9: touche touche
[02:41] <Doyle> Gimped: sounds promising, I'll give em a go
[02:42] <Doyle> ZykoticK9: someone'll add it eventually. Usability and options are what gives one client the edge over others.
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, gmailwatcher was featured in webup8 the other week, it seem pretty good for gmail notifications
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> Doyle, link http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/gmailwatcher-gmail-notifier-especially.html
[02:44] <Hidekazu2> -.-. --.-
[02:44] <ugliefrog> i need to know how to change the /tmp area to my new parttion..is it a command for the terminal
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Yea. that 'mail' icon in the notification area is supposed to be the way mail apps 'notify' users now a day.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> ugliefrog:  mount /tmp to the new location. a fstab entry would be the normal way to set it up at boot time.
[02:45] <Jon--> I am having trouble compiling g++ code with some libraries. What do I need to add to $PATH, or ensure is already there?
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> ugliefrog, Dr_Willis's fstab point is an important one, if you always want it to mount to the same spot, add it to the fstab file
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Hmm here i seem to have... (from mount)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noatime,mode=1777)
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure how tmpfs differs from tmp...
[02:46] <ugliefrog> ZykoticK9, im trying to find out how do it online
[02:46] <vbgunz> im really at a lost in grub atm. How do I add a dummy entry to 40_custom **so** that it's a dummy **but** shows up in the grub menu as a sort of aesthetic category title? It serves no other purpose. just a title that when you click on it, it does nothing. How?
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i don't have tmpfs mounted or listed in my fstab...
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  this is my 10.10 test box i  just now remebred..
[02:47] <anand> question -->> can u explain the diff bet git,(apt-get,dpkg)  <<--
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> some info on tmp --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=660872
[02:47] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, ;)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  and i did see a 'trick' the other day i tried out to put some tmp/logs on the tmpfs to get a speed booost.. that may bee a letf over from that experiment
[02:49] <anand> can anyone explain what is a "git" ????
[02:49]  * naptastic sighs deeply
[02:49] <naptastic> anand, git is a distributed version control system.
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, i didn't recognize the tmpfs when you mentioned it, so i went looking.  my main hd failed the other week, so i lost my 10.10 since alpha1 partition :(
[02:50] <ramontayag> anand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(software)
[02:50] <anand> naptastic, it has any relation with installing packages
[02:50] <ramontayag> auto linking doesn't work properly here (for me) so you may need to copy and paste the whole thing
[02:50] <naptastic> anand, only obliquely. Git is useful (as far as the end user is concerned) for downloading source code so you can compile it yourself.
[02:50] <naptastic> anand, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_%28software%29
[02:51] <anand> naptastic, thanks 4 the link
[02:51] <naptastic> anand, no problem. And now I'm off to see if I can permanently break my internet access.
[02:51] <anand> naptastic, y????
[02:52] <kneaux> that's awesome timing. my buddy was literally just telling me to look into git
[02:52] <kneaux> in fact, ben?
[02:52] <DarkRedman> Hu
[02:52] <naptastic> anand, it's complicated... my libvirtd is broken and I don't know if the server it's running on can be fixed.
[02:53] <sparrW> Seemingly at random my screensaver fails to start after the designated length of inactivity. How can I tell what is causing that?
[02:53] <DarkRedman> I've a big issue with Ubuntu, I can't login any account since my .Private folder (for ecryptfs) has been emptied due to a bad help from #ubuntu-fr
[02:53] <Sunderphon> Is it possible to install anaglyphic 3D output on nvidia cards on linux?
[02:54] <sparrW> Sunderphon: it was ten years ago. probably still now.
[02:54] <cowbud> I am trying to get a preeseed to install grub on the second hard drive. i.e. /dev/sdb. I am bootstrapping the preseed file with a usb stick and every time I load no matter if I have hd(1,0) or /dev/sdb in my grub-installer/bootdev but when I boot and install the usb device is seen as drive 0 and is always installed to. Any ideas?
[02:54] <Sunderphon> sparrW, what?
[02:55] <DarkRedman> Is there anyway to get support service from Canonical without paying for one year ?! It's just to fix some problems.
[02:55] <sparrW> Sunderphon: ten years ago it was possible to do analglyph stereo 3d on nvidia cards in linux. based on that, I would expect it to still be possible
[02:55] <Zelfje> Sunderphon: please elaborate anaglyphic 3D with link
[02:55] <sparrW> Zelfje: red/green
[02:55] <anand> am having following error .........................
[02:55] <anand> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/cz.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_maverick_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[02:55] <anand> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[02:55] <Zelfje> ah no blue
[02:55] <FloodBot2> anand: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <Sunderphon> Anaglyphic isn't just red/green
[02:56] <Zelfje> ic stereo gogles
[02:56] <Sunderphon> Actually, usually it's red/blue
[02:56] <sparrW> it could be red/blue too
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> anand:  its just a warning like it says.. you have some duplicate lines in your apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[02:56] <sparrW> it could even be yellow/purple
[02:56] <detrix42> does dvd::rip have an IRC?  if so what server?
[02:56] <sileni> hello everyone
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> anand:  it shouldnt affect the system. just a annoying warning.
[02:57] <anand> Dr_Willis, should i remove those lines manually??
[02:57] <Sunderphon> which is my situation. I want to output the graphics for a game with anaglyphic (red/blue ana) graphics. I've read online that it's possible on windows, but I'm not sure how to do it on linux
[02:57] <DarkRedman> No one have any idea ?
[02:57] <Zelfje> if the specific nvidia card is suported ic no reason why not (nvidea has good *nix drivers)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> anand:  theres repo tools in synaptic...  you could use.. or edit the files by hand..
[02:58] <anand> Dr_Willis, ok will try now
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> anand:  you really shouldent be adding new entries to /etc/apt/sources.list  instead use the files in /etc/apt/apt.sources.d
[02:58] <Sunderphon> Zelfje, I can't find drivers that support it is the thing. I'm using a GTS 250, if it helps any. I don't know where to look. The Nvidia site mentions nothing about it
[02:58] <Loshki> detrix42: I don't believe so. It has a searchable mailing list though. Try here: http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/support.cipp  And you can ask here, of course...
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> anand:  its not a big deal really. You could just leave it a lone.
[02:58] <DarkRedman> HELP
[02:58] <anand> Dr_Willis, ok
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> !encryptfs
[02:59] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: why is editing /etc/apt/apt.sources.d better than editing /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:59] <detrix42> Loshki: I was just there, I did not see any irc reference, but I did not think about searching the mailinglist...thanks
[02:59] <vbgunz> im really at a lost in grub atm. How do I add a dummy entry to 40_custom **so** that it's a dummy **but** shows up in the grub menu as a sort of aesthetic category title? It serves no other purpose. just a title that when you click on it, it does nothing. How?
[02:59] <waaade> so when i run rtorren & in terminal it immediately stops instead of running as a daemon.  Does anyone know why?
[03:00] <sparrW> Sunderphon: I believe I was using the Quadro drivers to do it
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  because you cant accidently trash your sourcves.list file then.. the whole point of the sources.d setup is so you dont have to mess with the main config file..
[03:00] <lhx> waaade: or you could just run rtorrent inside of a screen session
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  and its much easier to add/remove single entries by making a single file. then messing with the bigger file.
[03:00] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I see, thanks...
[03:00] <Sunderphon> sparrW, link?
[03:00] <waaade> what is screen?
[03:01] <rww> !screen
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  every tutorial/wiki/blog i see that say to edit sources.list should be using the sources.list.d method :)
[03:01] <sparrW> Sunderphon: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/README/appendix-b.html search for "stereo"
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  i always post a comment on such sites as i find them
[03:02] <sparrW> rww: I once used a "window manager" for terminal sessions that provided an ncurses(like) GUI for handling smaller "windows" that could be moved and overlap and such. any idea what that was? kicked screen's butt.
[03:02] <anand> how to fix broken packages??
[03:02] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: it's always annoyed me to have multiple places to configure stuff, but your rationale seems reasonable...
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  I find it more annoying when 100 differnt things try to alter the same very critical config file..
[03:02] <Sunderphon> sparrW, it's not that kind of 3D. It's the coloured red/blue 3D I'm looking for
[03:03] <rww> sparrW: no idea, sorrt
[03:03] <sparrW> Sunderphon: yes, it would appear at first glance that that option has been removed
[03:03] <rww> sorry **
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  the apt settings files have a similer method also.
[03:03] <DarkRedman> :(
[03:03] <Sunderphon> sparrW, plus, that page states that the only cards to support that feature are the Quadro cards
[03:03] <fridgerator> when trying to play windows games through wine, if i just open the game normal I dont get any sound with ALSA selected in winecfg... if I switch to OSS and use padsp to open the program I get sound but its all scratchy... any ideas?
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  its basically gone from a single 'file' to a 'directory' that you are altering  isolated files in that should make it easier to debug.
[03:03] <sparrW> Sunderphon: that page lies.
[03:03] <[IRAQI]> emma did you losted your mind with you are member ?? so Learn next time do not bankick any user without really reason :)
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> work time for me.
[03:04] <DarkRedman> What a pity I can save my data and have Canonical support to fix it
[03:04] <Loshki> Dr_Willis: I guess both are annoying. Erring on the side of helping people not blow up their configs too easily does seem worth while...
[03:04] <vbgunz> /join #aptosid
[03:04] <vbgunz> sorry. I had no idea holding ctrl+enter would do that
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Loshki:  and other programs are followign the same 'methodology'   explore /etc/ and you see bash configs and other system configs that do the same thing. (grub2 configs, upstart, and so on)
[03:05] <rww> [IRAQI]: This channel is for Ubuntu technical support. This channel is not for discussing your bans in unrelated channels.
[03:05] <anand> how to fix broken packages.........??? tried in synaptic pckge manager..... it say it will remove around 3090mb???
[03:05] <anand> wat should i do now??
[03:05] <x0rs> Anyone recommend a good mp3 program that's small but easy to use?
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> you mean a media player?
[03:06] <x0rs> Roguish: yes
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> if you don't need a library or anything you could just use vlc player
[03:06] <RoguishRavager> that's what i do when i just want to play something real quick
[03:06] <x0rs> Ok, nice... I love VLC player
[03:06] <x0rs> thanks a lot
[03:07] <bmomjian> My keyboard setting for capslock act like control doesn't work on boot with auto-login, but if I log out again and log in again, it works.  Any ideas why?  This is 8.04
[03:07] <Barridus> !firefox
[03:07] <x0rs> Do they make an application for Ubuntu similar to Daemon-Tools for windows? I am looking for an application to mount iso images
[03:07] <Barridus> !firefox-4.0
[03:08] <detrix42> x0rs: yes there is an app called gmountiso I believe....
[03:08] <Loshki> x0rs: there's gmountiso, it's just a gui layered on top of the mount command...
[03:08] <rww> !iso
[03:09] <x0rs> detrix42: thanks a lot
[03:09] <x0rs> Loshki: thank you
[03:10] <Barridus> is there a good place to go for firefox4 beta support?
[03:11] <rww> Barridus: perhaps #firefox on here or on irc.mozilla.org
[03:13] <icarus-c> x0rs, alternatively you could mount iso with GNOME's gvfs as well
[03:13] <Swabby> Is it possible to write to a CD-RW disk so that I can write to it again?
[03:13] <DJHLS> I've got a filesystem question
[03:14] <x0rs> icarus-c: nice, thanks  a lot
[03:15] <DJHLS> Has anyone else had a problem of in Ubuntu 10.04 not being able to create any filesystems from the Live CD?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Swabby, you mean burning ubuntu iso to a cd-rw ?
[03:15] <icarus-c> Swabby, why not
[03:15] <Swabby> No, not an iso.
[03:15] <icarus-c> DJHLS, what error message you get
[03:15] <Sunderphon> giving up on the red/blue 3D for linux. I've conducted about 30 google searches with multiple terms and nothing even vaguely related turns up.
[03:15] <DJHLS> basically
[03:15] <DJHLS> crap i closed out of it
[03:15] <Swabby> Just want to backup files and be able to rewrite to the disk.
[03:16] <DJHLS> anything i try, all the exts so far, it always gives me an error saying it failed
[03:16] <DJHLS> and the installation prompts are extremely slow
[03:17] <DJHLS> reiserFS also failed
[03:17] <x0rs> Does anybody else use aptitude over apt-get more often?
[03:17] <Avo>  hey guys, is there are any way to get the app dev week stuff I'm going to miss this week? I've got a totally loaded week but there's some stuff I wouldn't (but have) to miss. Thanks!
[03:18] <cor|n> Remotely controlled LOIC, tru IRC!! Download: http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/downloads HOWTO: http://i.imgur.com/lx7em.png
[03:18] <Swabby> icarus-c, I took a virgin disk and wrote to it within File Browser. Now I cannot write to it again.
[03:18] <Flannel> cor|n: Please take it elsewhere.  Thanks.
[03:18] <IdleOne> Avo: #ubuntu-classroom topic should have a link to the logs
[03:18] <amitprakash> where can I find Xorg.conf on my ubuntu live?
[03:18] <icarus-c> Swabby, you have to wipe the disk before you can write again
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: there probably isnt one
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, /etc/X11
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: xorg.conf has been unnecessary for....3 years i think
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, and no xorg.conf by default
[03:19] <amitprakash> maco, ah so how does one specify the driver?
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, auto detect
[03:19] <amitprakash> display driver i.e.
[03:19] <icarus-c> amitprakash, but when you want to specify one driver, you need xorg.conf
[03:19] <maco> amitprakash: generally it should autodetect
[03:19] <amitprakash> for nvidia binaries?
 Ok, will try that but seems like a hassle to do that every time.
[03:20] <maco> amitprakash: you *can* make an xorg.conf if autodetect fails, but default is not to have one
[03:20] <amitprakash> ah ok :)
[03:20] <amitprakash> great
[03:20] <icarus-c> amitprakash, you could obtain a "default" xorg.conf (the one autodetect)  by  "Xorg -configure"
[03:20] <icarus-c> and then change driver there
[03:20] <icarus-c> don't forget to put it back to  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:21] <x0rs> Does anyone know how to use aptitude to effectively search my HD for orphaned dependencies and remove them?
[03:21] <icarus-c> apt-get autoremove
[03:21] <icarus-c> man apt-get
[03:22] <dublisk> Whats the best (least laggy) way to connect to ubuntu desktop from windows
[03:22] <Loshki> x0rs: unless you are short of disk space, it's barely worth your time. They're harmless...
[03:22] <icarus-c> dublisk, SSH
[03:22] <dublisk> gui desktop
[03:22] <icarus-c> dublisk, ssh / xming
 I get the following when trying to format disk....Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sr0: Input/output error
[03:23] <prettyrobots> What are the options for remote monitoring of Ubuntu?
[03:23] <icarus-c> dublisk, hence, putty/Xming  ,  enable X11 forwarding in putty
[03:23] <prettyrobots> I'm doing Ubuntu on Webbynode and EC2. It would be nice to have some sort of a control panel to see the health of the farm.
[03:23] <x0rs> loshki: ok thanks =P
[03:24] <icarus-c> dublisk, or VNC.  (run vino, a vnc server, on ubuntu)
[03:24] <xbonesx> Can someone help me edit the entries in grub2, I would like to remove the old kernels and memtest, so that all i have left are my win7 and current kernel
[03:24] <dublisk> vnc is giving me a pain
[03:24] <dublisk> I treid the NX client by nomachine but it is just too slow
[03:25] <glebihan> xbonesx: do you just want to remove them from grub menu or to uninstall them ?
[03:25] <cor|n> Remotely controlled LOIC, tru IRC!! Download: http://github.com/NewEraCracker/LOIC/downloads HOWTO: http://i.imgur.com/lx7em.png
[03:26] <cor|n> goto irc.thefailship.net #savethepiratebay to help
[03:26] <glebihan> !ot [ cor|n
[03:26] <rww> fyi, cor|n got kicked out of #ubuntu-unregged for this behavior.
[03:26] <xbonesx> glebihan: guess i dont really have any use for the old kernels, do I? and for memtest i just want it removed from the grub menu, but i found out how to do that one...
[03:26] <Loshki> dublisk: nomachine claims to be faster than everything else. If NX is too slow for you, I'm with icarus-c: ssh and the cli
[03:26] <prettyrobots> Remote monitoring of Ubuntu? Nothing?
[03:27] <dublisk> do you have any idea what sort of ping time I need?
[03:27] <icarus-c> dublisk, 0~1ms ?
[03:27] <dublisk> everything seems so ridiculously slow
[03:27] <glebihan> xbonesx: in that case, you can uninstall old kernels using synaptic, they will then automatically be removed from grub
[03:27] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: if your using remote viewing i recommend teamviewer
[03:27] <prettyrobots> What is remote viewing?
[03:27] <DarkRedman> How to get help from canonical support but just to fix some heavy bugs instead of to have a one-year support ?
[03:27] <icarus-c> monitor.. not remote viewing (desktop)
[03:27] <dublisk> my ping time is like ~300ms
[03:27] <prettyrobots> I've only ever used Munin. I'd like something a bit more flexible.
[03:27] <xbonesx> glebihan: oh i didnt know that... thought they might be a important part of the system...
[03:27] <foo> Uh, can someone look at this and tell me I didn't just accidently delete all my data? *afraid* http://pastebin.com/sMb5yv7K
[03:28] <pabloh> which LXDE based ubuntu is better?
[03:28] <glebihan> xbonesx: well you usually don't need to keep several old kernels
[03:28] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: www.teamviewer.com
[03:29] <mamece2> hello,  i run resources administrator in windows the ram usage its at 900 mb (i got 1 GB) and 10% of processor usage, when i run ubuntu monitor it says 500 mb of ram usage and 80% of processor usage, WHY?
[03:29] <xbonesx> glebihan: right, makes sense, only needs to boot from one, but didnt know you could remove them, thought they were still part of the system lol :/
[03:29] <prettyrobots> xbonesx: Was thinking more along the lines of Munin. Remote logging, or inspecting system health.
[03:29] <Loshki> dublisk: ping times depend more on the network than on the app's you're using. What kind of link is it?
[03:29] <Barridus> xbonesx, yeah i usually keep the latest old one that worked for sure, for a while.  then when i'm certain it's not needed, i remove it
[03:29] <xbonesx> prettyrobots: trying to spy on your own system?
[03:29] <dublisk> cable modem
[03:29] <Barridus> xbonesx, i got burned bad by a kernel update once, it's handy to keep at least 1 old one
[03:29] <xbonesx> Barridus: sounds like a good idea, but can i remove the entry from the menu for now
[03:30] <prettyrobots> xbonesx: Visualization of the logging of multiple systems.
[03:30] <DarkRedman> NWho could help me ?
[03:30] <prettyrobots> Like Munin.
[03:30] <icarus-c> dublisk, the math is easy, basically, you are sending screen resolution times color bits times FPS size of data in a second through remote desktop.  and each TCP/IP packet is just 4K (some used for protocol data). plus a 300ms delay each packet.  so remote desktop must be lag as hell
[03:30] <prettyrobots> http://munin-monitoring.org/
[03:30] <glebihan> xbonesx: they're not really part of the system, they're just not automatically removed when a new version of the kernel is installed
[03:30] <Barridus> xbonesx, sometimes they update the kernel without actually giving you a new one.  that's how i got burned, the update broke support for my hardware.  i would have been screwed if i didn't have the previous kernel release
[03:30] <glebihan> xbonesx: which btw can sometimes save your life if you happen to install a buggy kernel
[03:31] <Barridus> yeah basically what glebihan is saying too
[03:31] <Loshki> foo: your data is still there. But your disk hardware is (going) bad. See if you can mount the disk...
[03:31] <Barridus> i always keep 2
[03:31] <xbonesx> glebihan: ok well how can i remove the entry, and still leave it possible to boot from?
[03:31] <foo> Loshki: yeah, going to wait for this to finish. haha. thanks. so, journal != data
[03:31] <jonkri> i'm trying to get my dell 2007fp external monitor to work on ubuntu. apparantly it's something wrong with the edid data because i don't get the 1600x1200 resolution automatically. i have a thinkpad and the default monitor runs 1400x1050. this is my xorg.conf: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268337/. while the default monitor runs its standard resolution, i only get 1024x768 at the external. here's the log: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/268338/. any help
[03:31] <jonkri> would be really appreciated, i have been trying for hours...
[03:32] <Barridus> i want to say hardy's late kernel update (maybe the last?  i don't know) broke me
[03:32] <xbonesx> glebihan: for instance if i need to boot from it i will type manually from a cmd line in grub2 but i dont want the entry viewable
[03:32] <dublisk> maybe something with my internet connection is messed up
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, what's the ping for
[03:33] <glebihan> xbonesx: you can delete the corresponding menu entry from /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:33] <dublisk> just checking my ping times
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, ............................. you misunderstand the network thing
[03:33] <glebihan> xbonesx: but it will be put back next time a new kernel version is installed and update-grub is run
[03:33] <dublisk> ?
[03:33] <icarus-c> dublisk, you want to ping your remote desktop server from your client.  not pinging freenode/ me
[03:34] <danryan> howdy, I'm trying to install openjdk-6-jre-headless on a fresh install of 10.04, and the package hangs every time.  I duplicated my results on 5 different machines.  Are there any alternative packages to this one that will provide the same basic software for apps that require java?
[03:34] <dublisk> Yeah, and it was 300ms which seemd high so I'm thinking maybe something is up with my internet connection in general
[03:34] <xbonesx> glebihan: only in the event of a kernel update? nothing else?
[03:34] <|multipass|> I upgraded my nvidia drivers to 256.53 but ubuntu crashed.. is there anything else I can do? (8800 GTS)
[03:34] <glebihan> xbonesx: nothing else unless you manually run update-grub
[03:34] <icarus-c> dublisk, where is your server and your client?
[03:34] <dublisk> same city
[03:34] <icarus-c> dublisk, home?  office? oversea?
[03:35] <dublisk> office and home
[03:35] <icarus-c> dublisk, so you should use your home machine to ping the office one (or reverse)
[03:35] <xbonesx> glebihan: where the file that updates the grub, i will edit that one rather than the actual one...
[03:35] <Loshki> foo: the journal is a kind of cache to increase the reliability of the data. It's actually optional, but the fact that it was damaged means the disk is failing.
[03:35] <xbonesx> where's*
[03:35] <dublisk> I did, and it was ~300ms
[03:36] <icarus-c> dublisk, but that shouldn't be fast enough for smooth remote desktop anyway
[03:36] <icarus-c> wow... what city is that
[03:36] <dublisk> toronto
[03:36] <dublisk> maybe my ISP is acting up
[03:36] <glebihan> xbonesx: what do you mean, the file that updates the grub ? update-grub ?
[03:36] <icarus-c> i would expect <50ms within the same city
[03:36] <foo> Loshki: could it have been from an improper shutdown? badblocks on the drive reported 0 badblocks
[03:37] <icarus-c> dublisk, but yea.. you need LAN / fibre network to use remote desktop smoothly :P
[03:37] <xbonesx> glebihan: ya i know the real file exist in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, boot there is one you can edit to where when you run update grub it modifies the /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:37] <icarus-c> dublisk, why not just ssh/terminal ?
[03:37] <dublisk> pinging www.rogers.com is taking me >200ms
[03:37] <dublisk> to do dev work with an ide
[03:37] <dublisk> rogers being the isp
[03:38] <icarus-c> dublisk,   you sure its server is located in your city?
[03:38] <glebihan> xbonesx: oh yes, grub.cfg is generated using /etc/default/grub but you won't be able to remove items from the menu there
[03:38] <dublisk> is there a way to grap my ISP IP address somehow to test it?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: Just remove the old kernels using apt/ Software Center.
[03:39] <xbonesx> glebihan: what would be the one i could?
[03:39] <icarus-c> dublisk, plenty of network speed test out there.  but you wouldn't have a sweet remote desktop experience anyway
[03:39] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: i want to keep them incase of whatever. like recommended by glebihan
[03:39] <dublisk> yeah I used windows remote desktop all the time
[03:39] <dublisk> and you couldn't tell it was remote
[03:40] <glebihan> xbonesx: well grub.cfg, but as I said it will only last until next kernel update
[03:40] <glebihan> xbonesx: I don't know about any other grub config file
[03:40] <Loshki> foo: you need to look at the SMART disk data instead of badblocks. Modern disks try to hide bad blocks away from the operating system so badblocks isn't as useful as it used to be. sudo apt-get install smartmontools
[03:40] <maco> xbonesx: /etc/default/grub  then run "sudo update-grub" to generate a new grub.cfg
[03:41] <xbonesx> maco: ya i know...
[03:41] <xbonesx> glebihan: well didnt they just release a kernel update not too long ago for lucid?
[03:42] <glebihan> xbonesx: yes just a few days ago I think
[03:43] <xbonesx> glebihan: ya i noticed today when i installed on another computer... i had disabled auto updates, and havent ran it on my machine in a while lol
[03:43] <Gerowen> I have a video editing question if you guys don't mind.
[03:43] <pure_hate> How in the heck do I disable the gnome-keyring?
[03:43] <glebihan> !ask | Gerowen
[03:44] <Gerowen> I have a video that was recorded on its side, all I need to do is flip the video right side up.  I've been using Pitivi video editor for clipping, is there an option to do this in Pitivi?
[03:46] <Loshki> Gerowen: I haven't used pitivi, but it looks easy in avidemux. It has a 'rotate' video filter....
[03:46] <Izinucs> Gerowen, this might help http://www.hanselman.com/blog/HowToRotateAnAVIOrMPEGFileTakenInPortrait.aspx
[03:47] <Gerowen> Awesome thank you, I'll check it out!
[03:49] <mamece2> hello,  i run resources administrator in windows the ram usage its at 900 mb (i got 1 GB) and 10% of processor usage, when i run ubuntu monitor it says 500 mb of ram usage and 80% of processor usage, WHY?
[03:50] <Izinucs> mamece2, you can find out what's eating the processor by looking in the system monitor or from cli by using top
[03:50] <Ryen> mamece2: Because Windows and Ubuntu are two different operating systems, and the usage would be dependant on whats open.
[03:51] <multipass> hey guys how do i check my video card driver version? i just installed a official nvidia and i dont see it in hardware devices
[03:51] <sparrW> Seemingly at random my screensaver fails to start after the designated length of inactivity. How can I tell what is causing that?
[03:52] <xbonesx> glebihan: could i do this "sudo chmod -x 20_memtest86+" to the kernels as well to get them off the menu list for grub2?
[03:53] <rww> htop > top
[03:54] <mamece2> ryen , ok i know it depends of the program that im running, ive opened the same programs, music player, tweetdeck and mozilla
[03:54] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: No. You would have to edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux , and I don't recommend doing that.
[03:54] <Izinucs> mamece2, if you're running tweetdeck then you're also running adobeair .. that might be the culprit
[03:54] <doc|home> anyone got a good, recent, walk through for setting up a hauppauge remote control with lirc?
[03:55] <Ryen> mamece2: Programs work differently in each operating system. Some operating systems put stress in other places.
[03:55] <Ryen> mamece2: Are you worried about excessive RAM or CPU use?
[03:56] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: TY for the advice
[03:56] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: You're welcome.
[03:57] <danryan> openjdk-6-jre-headless is broke as all get out in 10.04. is there a fix for this? are there alternative packages that will satisfy apps needing java?
[03:57] <almoxarife> I have a flash vid created in a cache (chrome) I want to be able to watch via a media server, the media server expects to see file extentions, and that can't be changed, my question is then, is it possible to create a virtual link where the files in question are available and provided with an extention, the ext can be fixed, say .avi?????????
[03:57] <Jordan_U> xbonesx: Whatever you do do *not* chmod -x /etc/grub.d/10_linux. If you do it will remove *all* kernels.
[03:57] <mamece2> im worried, i dont want my laptop to get too hot
[03:58] <xbonesx> Jordan_U: glad to know that, not that i had intentions to do so, but glad i know now :D
[03:58] <spill> need help trouble shooting a realtek 8190 wifi card with lucid 64, anyone?
[03:58] <Ryen> mamece2: As long as you have it off of the carpet, you should be fine, do you know what your temps are?
[03:59] <mamece2> no, it not as hot as i cannot handle it but is annoying
[03:59] <Ryen> mamece2: Please see my PM.
[04:00] <almoxarife> spill: a pci card?
[04:00] <spill> almoxarife ya
[04:01] <androidbruce> hey guys where is the maverick room?
[04:01] <rww> androidbruce: #ubuntu+1
[04:01] <maco> !10.10
[04:01] <essial> Hey I'm on my Mac now, I've tried following the steps to get magicmouse working, even modprobed successfully
[04:01] <mijk> how can I parse links from a RSS feed?
[04:01] <essial> it ~works~ but scrolling does not
[04:01] <spill> iv compliled a driver from source and the system seems to recongnize it but wifi network says disconnected.
[04:02] <almoxarife> spill: I found that I could use the ndiswrapper to manage the card, but I never had luck with it coming out of sleep mode, sometimes it would hang, most times actually
[04:02] <glebihan> mijk: what do you mean exactly ?
[04:02] <x0rs> Are *.mdf files mountable in Ubuntu?
[04:03] <Izinucs> x0rs, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages
[04:04] <mijk> glebihan: I'm probably not using the correct term. I want to output the links from a RSS feed
[04:04] <almoxarife> spill: it would say disconnected till it connected, you mean it did connect but does not recognize it?
[04:04] <x0rs> Izinucs: ok
[04:05] <SNN> Hi guys.. ubuntu-desktop is no longer working on my Ubuntu 10.10 (not sure if I should ask how to fix this here or #ubuntu+1)
[04:05] <Ryen> SNN: #ubuntu+1
[04:06] <spill> almoxarife: it boots up like the network is there, but when I lshw -C network it shows the card, but that its disconnected. it never sees my router.
[04:06] <glebihan> mijk: do you need a rss feed reader, or are you writing some custom parser which you'll use to output the links ?
[04:06] <spill> almoxarife: its like the card is there but off, and I can't seem to get it on.
[04:06] <Kapace> hello, i have installed 10.10 on my compaq r3000, i had to boot to the installer with noacpi, but after it installed, i can't boot even with noacpi, and Recovery mode doesn't boot either
[04:06] <arrrghhh> anybody have experience with ps3mediaserver or transcoding?
[04:07] <Kapace> it hangs after "No floppy controller found" is displayed on the console
[04:07] <almoxarife> spill: you have the windows drivers for it?
[04:07] <arrrghhh> Kapace, ubuntu+1... 10.10 isn't released yet.
[04:07] <Ryen> !10.10 | Kapace
[04:07] <spill> almoxarife: ya, I
[04:07] <Kapace> ah thank you
[04:08] <x0rs> is there a way to determine the "type" of a particular image? "sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/file.mdf /mountfolder/" is saying the filetype isn't iso9660
[04:08] <mijk> I'm trying to use awk
[04:08] <spill> almoxarife: opps, anyways, i'm on a fresh install now, a previous install I tried the wrapper and the system kept freezing, not sure what I was doing wrong that why I got the linux driver from realtek
[04:08] <Ryen> x0rs: If you just type in 'mount' it will give you the type.
[04:08] <x0rs> nice
[04:08] <x0rs> Ryen: thank you
[04:08] <almoxarife> spill: try ndiswrapper, at a min it should work and your issues then will be how to get it up from after a sleep instance
[04:09] <spill> almoxarife: do i need to blacklist anything?
[04:09] <glebihan> mijk: you mean you're trying to use awk to parse the content of a rss feed ?
[04:09] <mijk> yes
[04:10] <glebihan> mijk: it's going to be hard, awk is not an xml parser
[04:10] <almoxarife> spill: I am not qualifed to answer that question, I didn't blacklist anything when I tried it
[04:10] <spill> almoxarife: just not sure why it kept freezing before, what windows driver do you recommend, i'm running the newest kernal with lucid 64
[04:10] <almoxarife> lucid 64 with a win32 driver???
[04:11] <almoxarife> spill: I take it back, I was on lucid 32 then,
[04:11] <spill> almoxarife: I'm dual boot with windows 7 64, so I tried those drivers first, but I have 64bit versions of all windows drivers.
[04:12] <almoxarife> spill: if you have the drivers then I would give it a try
[04:12] <spill> almoxarife: well, got nothing to loose at this point anyways ;), well give it a shot.  thanks.
[04:15] <kepp1o> Hi y'all!  Anyone know how to restart samba services in ubuntu 10.04.1?
[04:15] <kepp1o> sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart doesnt work
[04:15] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, sudo service smbd restart
[04:15] <arrrghhh> /etc/init.d isn't used any longer
[04:16] <arrrghhh> well, for most things.
[04:16] <kepp1o> ah that worked
[04:16] <kepp1o> why did they have to go change it on me.  There goes all of my scripts.
[04:16] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, yes, use the upstart service command from now on.  "sudo service <servicename> restart
[04:17] <twoaday> good to knw
[04:17] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, they're still there in /etc/init.d, but starting/stopping them from there is deprecated.
[04:17] <arrrghhh> some you still can start/stop from there, some will outright complain that you shouldn't use that method :P
[04:18] <kepp1o> good to know.  I looked in there, samba wasnt there.  is it for ubuntu only or all varients of linux?
[04:18] <brainsik> Is anyone here familiar with AppArmor?
[04:18] <arrrghhh> kepp1o, depends.  it's smbd in all distros AFAIK tho.
[04:18] <kepp1o> brainsik:  not me
[04:18] <Izinucs> kepp1o, samba is done with sudo service smbd restart/stop/start ... they don't use the "samba" word anymore
[04:19] <arrrghhh> lol you don't have to respond if you don't know ;)
[04:19] <arrrghhh> oh did it used to be the word samba?  my bad.
[04:19] <essial> what was wrong with calling it samba...
[04:19] <essial> i always wondered why it was now 'smb'
[04:19] <kepp1o> well i wanted him to know that he wasnt being ignored ;)
[04:19] <essial> like they hate vowels or something
[04:20] <arrrghhh> essial, lol they're all from eastern europe.
[04:20] <essial> anyway i'm doing a hacky upgrade to 10.10
[04:20] <kepp1o> don't forget the 'd' smbd
[04:20] <essial> hopefully that'l solve my magicmouse issue :)
[04:20] <essial> d for daemon of course
[04:20] <essial> lord forbid they call it a "service"
[04:20] <rww> "The name Samba comes from SMB (Server Message Block), the name of the standard protocol used by the Microsoft Windows network file system."
[04:20] <kepp1o> yes, shouldn't samba always run as daemon anyways?
[04:20] <arrrghhh> alrighty i'm going to ask again.  any ps3mediaserver or transcoding gurus?
[04:21] <essial> not I
[04:21] <rww> smbd is the samba service that deals with SMB stuff. nmbd is the samba service that deals with NetBIOS stuff
[04:21] <essial> ah I understand
[04:21] <kepp1o> i setup a icecast2/darkice transcoder
[04:21] <essial> never really thought about that
[04:21] <mawst> arrrghhh, I do it.
[04:21] <arrrghhh> ha, did not know about the nmbd
[04:21] <mawst> arrrghhh, what's your question?
[04:22] <arrrghhh> mawst, so i'm pretty sure i just got it to transcode on the fly with multiple cores... but the playback is still choppy.  i want to know how to figure out where the bottleneck is?
[04:22] <arrrghhh> mawst, can i msg you?  it's kinda a long saga of ridiculousness.
[04:22] <Loshki> essial: I think daemons predate services
[04:22] <mawst> Yeah go ahead
[04:22] <essial> it's the same thing >.<
[04:23] <kepp1o> whats the difference between a daemon and service?  I thought they were the same thing.
[04:23] <essial> they are..
[04:23] <kepp1o> services = ms?
[04:23] <rww> different names for the same thing
[04:23] <mijk> thx
[04:23] <willwh> hi guys - anyone running mpd? (with music in ~/Music)? I would have thought this would be a snap to get going - and it's not.
[04:23] <essial> I call it a "service" because it provides a service to the OS or client
[04:24] <rww> willwh: yes. I just had to edit /etc/mpd.conf to set the path to my music and then make sure that that folder (and its parents) were accessible by the mpd user
[04:24] <kepp1o> i like daemon better, sounds more geeky ;
[04:24] <Licuadora> Hello
[04:24] <willwh> rww: mind if I query you a bit?
[04:24] <Licuadora> I forgot
[04:24] <Ryen> kepp1o: Also, daemon's are what services run off of.
[04:24] <rww> willwh: I'd prefer in-channel messages.
[04:24] <willwh> rww: that's why I asked :)
[04:24] <Licuadora> How do you turn off the computer from the terminal?
[04:24] <willwh> sudo halt.
[04:24] <kepp1o> Ryen:  ah, so daemons are lower level
[04:24] <willwh> wups, sudo halt
[04:25] <Ryen> Licuadora: sudo shutdown now
[04:25] <Licuadora> What is the option for the time?
[04:25] <kepp1o> Licuadora:  sudo shutdown now
[04:25] <Ryen> kepp1o: Backwards, services are lower.
[04:25] <Licuadora> I want to turn it off in 5 hours
[04:25] <rww> willwh: so, my music's in /home/rww/Music, I had to do chmod o+x /home/rww and chmod -R o+rX /home/rww/Music
[04:25] <Ryen> Licuadora: Check out this link http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/shutdown-ubuntu-linux-computer/
[04:26] <glebihan> Licuadora: sudo shutdown 5:00
[04:26] <glebihan> Licuadora: sudo shutdown +5:00
[04:26] <Licuadora> Ryen; Thank you
[04:26] <Licuadora> And thank you all
[04:26] <Loshki> kepp1o: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_daemon goes into the gory details...
[04:26] <xev> Hi.. can anyone help me..
[04:27] <xev> I cant boot to ubuntu after messing with my /etc/network/interfaces.
[04:27] <kepp1o> Loshki:  thanks, I'll check it out
[04:28] <agentgasmask> Hi. Looking at iftop shows a connection to <IP_ADDRESS> - Does anyone know what this ip is, or what the range it is in is asigned to?
[04:28] <Loshki> Licuadora: be sure to also check out 'man shutdown'
[04:28] <kepp1o> xev:  what happens when you boot?
[04:28] <xev> now blink cursor.
[04:29] <kepp1o> xev:  can you open a terminal?  ctrl+alt+f2?
[04:29] <essial> well that was dumb, closing firefox
[04:29] <essial> in the middle of upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10
[04:29] <xev> kepp1o, no.
[04:29] <xev> So now I boot from USB linux.
[04:30] <xev> But I dont know how to mount root.disk because I'm using wubi.
[04:30] <Ryen> !10.10 | essial
[04:30] <rww> agentgasmask: that's a local network multicast addressed, used for avahi, zeroconf, etc.
[04:30] <Loshki> essial: even if you don't close it, firefox usually becomes inoperable if you upgrade it while running it....
[04:30] <rww> address **
[04:30] <xev> I need to access interfaces file on root.disk
[04:30] <essial> hehe that's cool, and thanks for the useless info ryen :)
[04:30] <willwh> rww: what does the second command do? (chmod -R o+rX /path) - recursive, allow owner to read/execute?
[04:30] <kepp1o> xev:  can you access terminal from wubi?
[04:30] <essial> and its pretty stable, because the ubuntu team is awesome...
[04:31] <willwh> rww: < being half alseep, asking a basic question, apologies, man chmod
[04:31] <Ryen> essial: Just stating that if you are wanting to to talk about 10.10 then I suggest that you go to that channel.
[04:31] <xev> kepp1o, from wubi? no.
[04:31] <rww> willwh: Recursive chmod, allows Other users (i.e., not the owning user or group) to read and execute (if it's a directory)
[04:31] <essial> OK if you want to get ~technical~ i was talking about upgrading to 10.10, hence I'm not in 10.10 YET :)
[04:31] <xev> kepp1o, i'm stuck before login screen.
[04:31] <essial> mua :p
[04:31] <kepp1o> xev: you should download the ubuntu iso and boot from it, you can get a live ubuntu session from the CD
[04:32] <willwh> rww: ok, paths for all your mpd stuff you just left as /var/** etc
[04:32] <rww> willwh: I only changed music_directory
[04:32] <IdleOne> essial: 10.10 is offtopic for this channel, wether it be talking about upgrading to it or looking for support.
[04:32]  * essial sighs, you guys are no fun
[04:32] <rww> didn't touch anything in mpd.conf apart from that
[04:32] <xev> kepp1o, boot from USB also can?
[04:33] <xev> because my laptop dont have any cdrom.
[04:33] <Dulak> it's a support channel, #ubuntu-offtopic exists for non-support discussion
[04:33] <Loshki> essial: it's a good rule actually. This channel is pretty cluttered already since it's so large...
[04:33] <essial> it's actually pretty quiet right now compared to usual :)
[04:33] <kepp1o> xev:  might try this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[04:34] <Jordan_U> xev: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /mnt/
[04:34] <essial> xev: What exactly are you stuck on
[04:34] <essial> you can always run the alternate installer
[04:34] <kepp1o> xev doesn't have terminal access
[04:35] <essial> O_o
[04:35] <essial> ok then..
[04:35] <willwh> rww: what was the first chmod o+x ~/ for? (that would allow other users to execute files / search if dir?
[04:35] <nkdoodwal> my ubuntu update manager is not working
[04:35] <xev> I'm stuck at init: network-interface
[04:35] <xev> I'm stuck at init: network-interface (eth0) pre-starting process ...and so on..
[04:35] <xev> after that.. black screen with blinking cursor.
[04:36] <nkdoodwal> any installation is not taking place
[04:36] <xev> it's happen after messing with /etc/network/interfaces
[04:36] <rww> willwh: execute permissions on directories means that a user can traverse the directory to get to something they have access to. So, /home/rww/ needs to be +x so that mpd can get to /home/rww/Music
[04:36] <Loshki> essial: it *is* quiet tonight, but we're really here for first-line, interactive support...
[04:36] <xev> so, now I want to repair /etc/network/interface ..but I dont have access to terminal.
[04:36] <willwh> rww: gotcha, apologies for the series of questions, great answers though - thank you very much.
[04:37] <rww> willwh: no problem, it's a confusing topic :)
[04:37] <Jordan_U> xev: Boot from the USB then: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/root.disk /mnt/
[04:37] <willwh> rww: you're not using ampache are you? :D
[04:37] <xev> Now I'm trying to boot using USB linux.. to get access for terminal and try to mount root.disk and repair from there.
[04:37] <rww> willwh: nope, sorry
[04:37] <xev> Jordan_U, thanks.. wait.. i'm trying now.
[04:38] <willwh> rww: I just wondered - mine is rdy to set up - just finishing off mpd and I'll be good to go soon :]
[04:38] <nkdoodwal> -marix: hi
[04:38] <spill> msg almoxarife just tried the wrapper, the drivers are installed and it says the hardware is pressent but how do I enable the card?
[04:39] <essial> you forgot the / spill :)
[04:39] <spill> lol, I see that. my bad.
[04:39] <spill> ;)
[04:39] <bhaveshvala> hey guys, how to find harddisk rpm
[04:40] <essial> physically?
[04:40] <xev> Jordan_U, what is "/path/to/" ?
[04:40] <bhaveshvala> i want command to check
[04:41] <Jordan_U> xev: How comfortable are you with the terminal?
[04:41] <xev> Jordan_U, I'm new with terminal
[04:41] <xev> I dont even know where to locate my root.disk
[04:41] <essial> I really don't know if that is even possible... RPM has nothing to do with anything outside the hard drive
[04:44] <khider> Greetings all, I had a kernel upgrade today and lost audio. How do I get audio back?
[04:45] <linsus6> hi I have deleted accidently the /home partition and I have create a new one what I should do next this new /home must be empty ?
[04:45] <xev> Do I need to mount my NTFS partition first and then mount my root.disk inside my ntfs partition.?
[04:45] <AbhiJit> hi
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xev: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" ?
[04:45] <bastid_raZor> bhaveshvala: probably the fastest way is to use the product number from lshw to google and that will tell you
[04:45] <Jordan_U> xev: Yes.
[04:45] <Izinucs> linsus6, is it in the same location?
[04:45] <khider> The machine recognizes my soundcards, I just cannot get it to playback audio
[04:46] <AbhiJit> !sound > khider
[04:46] <maco> khider: soundcards plural?
[04:47] <willwh> rww: thanks for the simple tips - I'm surprised there isn't a very straightforward guide for that - it would seem to be a common request.. perhaps I'll write one.
[04:47] <linsus6> no Izinucs it was sdc3 now is sdc2
[04:47] <maco> khider: do you have pavucontrol installed? itll let you pick which soundcard apps try to play out of
[04:47] <Izinucs> linsus6, then you need to make that same change in /etc/fstab
[04:48] <linsus6> so I do gksudo nautilus then acces to fstab?
[04:48] <khider> maco, I do have it, but nothing pops up when I click it
[04:48] <maco> khider: try running pavucontrol in the terminal. a window should open
[04:48] <Izinucs> linsus6, easier with gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:48] <pmjp> sheesh
[04:48] <icarus-c> linsus6, yes.  coz you are running nautilus as root.
[04:49] <pmjp> chatting is getting complicated
[04:49] <linsus6> but Im in live cd
[04:49] <willwh> pmjp: what makes you say that?
[04:49] <pmjp> I got to answer questions to join a channel now
[04:49] <linsus6> so gksudo better in live cd?
[04:49] <Izinucs> linsus6, then use gksudo nautilus so you can navigate to it in the right location on the drive.
[04:49] <agentgasmask> rww: after googling a bit, I see that the multicast range stops after 239, unless I'm mistaken?
[04:49] <icarus-c> linsus6, mount the filesystem of the installed system then.
[04:49] <khider> maco, Shows no cards available for configuration--it was 100% beofre the kernel upgarde...
[04:50] <rww> agentgasmask: It's not my strong suit, but if you google the IP address you mentioned, it comes up with a bunch of stuff about Apple Bonjour, which is the same thing with a different name.
[04:50] <icarus-c> linsus6, between, using UUID or LABEL instead of  /dev/sdXy maybe a better idea
[04:50] <maco> khider: there are no devices in the output or playback tab?
[04:50] <khider> maco, Precisely
[04:50] <bhaveshvala> bastid_raZor: thanks
[04:50] <Izinucs> linsus6, sudo blkid will get you the uuid of the partition
[04:50] <xev> Jordan_U, maybe i can show you pic then..
[04:51] <khider> maco, I have two soundcards, nvidia and another one...
[04:51] <fuffalo> ive got an old tablet computer that i was thinking of installing linux on.  Is there anything similar to "one note" for linux for note taking?
[04:51] <abhinav_singh> how to see what are the activities performed on my computer in last 72 hours
[04:51] <willwh> pmjp: I didn
[04:51] <willwh> t
[04:51] <AbhiJit> fuffalo, yes try basket note pad
[04:51] <agentgasmask> rww: oh, ok. just thought if you could clear it up some more, that would be great, but, I do thank you for your help. :)
[04:51] <willwh> pmjp: are you joining the channel using some kind of webclient?
[04:52] <Izinucs> fuffalo, basket note is good.. but tomboy will also sync with ubuntu one offsite.. your choice
[04:52] <xbonesx> http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7568/screenshotfiredragonfil.png <--- need help which ones would i install for a dsktop without any extra theme managers, aka system/preferences/appearance
 (at img824.imageshack.us)
[04:52] <AbhiJit> tomboy is not 'like' one note
[04:52] <Jordan_U> xev: Open a terminal and run "sudo blkid" then then copy and paste the output to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com and post the URL here.
[04:52] <bobstro> fuffalo:  just text notes, or you want all the onenote features?
[04:52] <fuffalo> basically all i want is something that is as smooth as one note...doesn't need all the features though..all i do is write (and i like to be able to '
[04:52] <fuffalo> "scratch out" to erase)
[04:52] <pmjp> Im using X-Chat Gnome on Ubuntu 10.04
[04:52] <[mono]> .part
[04:52] <bobstro> pmjp:  you mean the questions to get into this channel?
[04:52] <khider> maco, Any idea how I can get it to recognize the devices?
[04:53] <maco> khider: but it worked on an old kernel? try rebooting into the old kernel then
[04:53] <fuffalo> bobstro to be specific, i want to write with my stylus
[04:53] <khider> maco, How?
[04:53] <hagabaka> why does ubi have to download the file again if an installation fails and I retry?
[04:53] <linsus6> I cant mount the system it show me an error
[04:53] <agentgasmask> Good night all, see you tomorrow.
[04:53] <bobstro> fuffalo:  ah!
[04:53] <pmjp> yeah anyway no worries
[04:53] <maco> khider: during boot hold shift and use the arrow keys
[04:54] <khider> maco, And the kernel options will pop up?
[04:54] <khider> Because now I just boot straight into the GUI
[04:54] <maco> khider: shift will give you the list of kernels. use the down key to go the 3rd one (first is your current kernel, 2nd is current kernel's recovery mode, 3rd is previous kernel, etc.)
[04:54] <icarus-c> xbonesx, guess you got them from http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/FireDragon?content=98769
[04:54] <besogon> does anybody know how to mount 'user share' without nautilus?
[04:55] <khider> maco,  What do you suppose the issue is?
[04:55] <khider> maco, Kernel is not up to snuff yet?
[04:55] <maco> khider: could be a broken kernel update
[04:55] <khider> maco, Would not be the first time. Thanks!
[04:56] <pmjp> crap got to go
[04:56] <icarus-c> xbonesx, for gtk & icon theme,  download tarballs  (.tar.gz)   then open gnome-appearance-properties ,  drag & drop the two tarball file from nautilus to appear preference window
[04:56] <xbonesx> icarus-c: no actually i isntalled gstyle and used that to download it but now i know where to get more
[04:56] <icarus-c> xbonesx, for emerald,  open emerald-theme-manager and  import the emerald one from the site
[04:57] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, http://www.lisisoft.com/tools/ubuntu-keylogger-orddat.html
[04:57] <abhinav_singh> hey AbhiJit
[04:57] <abhinav_singh> how are you
[04:57] <huangg> fine
[04:57] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, good!
[04:57] <xbonesx> icarus-c: ya... the last time i installed emerald it took over my current theme changing everthing and i could get it back to normal... couldnt figure out how to use it
[04:57] <bullgard4> I have established a sshfs connection from computer MD97600 to computer T43. Does this imply that I can transfer a file from MD97600 to T43?
[04:57] <icarus-c> xbonesx, yes. emerald replaces gtk-decorator
[04:58] <icarus-c> *gtk-window_decorator
[04:58] <bobstro> bullgard4:  if you have permissions, you should be able to.
[04:58] <xbonesx> icarus-c: is their a way to revert back to the reg GDM if i choose to after installing emerald?
[04:58] <maco> xbonesx, icarus-c: more like the other way around. gtk-window-decorator replaced that buggy ol' unmaintained emerald junk
[04:58] <abhinav_singh> AbhiJit can i have private chat with you
[04:58] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gdm??... why it appears here
[04:58] <bobstro> bullgard4:  or better said -- if the user you connect as using sshfs has permissions
[04:59] <xev> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/501915/
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, i mean you could only use either  gtk-window-decorator or emerald
[04:59] <xev> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/501915/
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, at the same time
[04:59] <AbhiJit> yah
[04:59] <xbonesx> maco: lol i did like the roll up feature tho lol
[04:59] <bullgard4> bobstro: Hm. Let me see if I will be able to do so.
[04:59] <icarus-c> maco, like  metacity OR  compiz
[04:59] <rww> !emerald
[04:59] <linsus6> Im doing a check disk maybe it will help to mount
[04:59] <maco> icarus-c: ah yeah
[04:59] <AbhiJit> abhinav_singh, see also http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2010-01-17-001-35-OS-SW-NT
[04:59] <maco> xbonesx: er... you can roll up in compiz regardless
[04:59] <Jordan_U> xev: You've got a bad CD unfortunately.
[04:59] <maco> xbonesx: heck, metacity has shade too
[05:00] <xbonesx> icarus-c: huh (to your last message to me)
[05:00] <xev> Jordan_U,  But I'm using netbook without cdroom..
[05:00] <xbonesx> maco: dont know how to use it...
[05:00] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gdm is about "login manager"
[05:00] <xev> And now boot from USB .
[05:00] <icarus-c> xbonesx, while we are talking about window decorator
[05:00] <Jordan_U> xev: That USB is bad then.
[05:01] <maco> xbonesx: in metacity, iirc, it was system > preferences > windows and you could set it to shade on title bar double click. you can set the same sort of setting in compizconfig-settings-manager too
[05:01] <xbonesx> icarus-c: GDM=the current theme mangaer to me lol, didnt know the real name for it lol sry
[05:01] <maco> xbonesx: the latter obviously being for compiz users
[05:01] <xev> Jordan_U, oh.. so.. I still dont have access to my root.disk?
[05:01] <xev> even now I'm in terminal.
[05:01] <icarus-c> xbonesx, Gnome Display Manager. it is the one that handles login and launching sessions
[05:01] <Jordan_U> xev: Can you connect to IRC from another computer?
[05:01] <xev> yes.. I can.
[05:01] <Jordan_U> xev: (one other than the netbook with this problem).
[05:01] <icarus-c> xbonesx, it has nothing to do with window theme
[05:02] <xbonesx> icarus-c: gotcha
[05:02] <xev> Now I'm using desktop PC
[05:02] <xev> yes.
[05:02] <skeeby> xev, have u tried a network installation
[05:02] <icarus-c> xbonesx, so have you figure out how to install/use metacity, gtk & icon theme ?
[05:02] <icarus-c> xbonesx, it is just drag and drop after all
[05:02] <Jordan_U> xev: OK, then reboot the netbook and when you get to the second boot menu, after selecting Ubuntu at the first menu, select recovery mode.
[05:03] <linsus6> is normal that check disk is still at 0 of 2 after 2 mins
[05:03] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i had this webpage with the directories of the images and scripts for gnome theme manager but i lost it
[05:03] <Jordan_U> xev: That should get you to a terminal within wubi.
[05:03] <linsus6> ?
[05:03] <icarus-c> xbonesx, http://art.gnome.org ?  http://gnome-look.org/ ?
[05:03] <Jordan_U> linsus6: Yes, fsck can take a while.
[05:03] <skeeby> my bad thought u were trying to install lol
[05:04] <xev> Jordan_U, Sorry.. I cant access to recovery mode because timeout is 0 sec..
[05:04] <xbonesx> icarus-c: no it was some off website that gave detailed info on directories and the ins and outs for it
[05:05] <Jordan_U> xev: Hold down shift.
[05:05] <xev> Jordan_U, ok.. I'll try it right now.
[05:05] <Jordan_U> xev: Unless you changed the timeout manually.
[05:05] <icarus-c> xbonesx, you lost me
[05:05] <icarus-c> xbonesx, what you want to do
[05:06] <xev> Jordan_U, Sorry.. cant..
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: i remember the page telling me where all aspects of the gnome system were located, including themes
[05:06] <linsus6> yep my guess was good after a check disk now it mount
[05:06] <xev> because i changed the timeout manually..
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: for instance, .theme....
[05:06] <icarus-c> xbonesx, /usr/share/themes ?
[05:06] <xbonesx> icarus-c: yep
[05:06] <icarus-c> xbonesx, and .themes
[05:07] <xev> Jordan_U, So.. I think I need to download ubuntu iso again.. and make it as usb bootable..
[05:07] <xbonesx> icarus-c: but the website gave all the known DIR
[05:07] <xev> Jordan_U, thanks.. I'll be right back..
[05:07] <Jordan_U> xev: You're welcome.
[05:08] <linsus6> ok now I have change the /dev/sdc3 was there to /dev/sdc2 so when I reboot everything will be fine?
[05:11] <AbhiJit> is gambas is in active development or dead? is it have any future?
[05:12] <icarus-c> linsus6, again i would use UUID or LABEL instead
[05:12] <Izinucs> linsus6, was there a uuid reference for sdc3 in the fstab file?
[05:13] <icarus-c> linsus6, you could get them by command "blkid"
[05:13] <icarus-c> as root
[05:13] <Izinucs> linsus6, if so then that number needs to be changed as well.. like icarus-c says. and I mentioned earlier.. sudo blkid will give you the right uuid for sdc2
[05:14] <icarus-c> linsus6, with UUID, no matter how you change the hard drive setup, linux could still locate the right partition by UUID
[05:14] <icarus-c> without manual modification
[05:15] <icarus-c> since /dev/sdXy arrangement could change, but UUID doesn't
[05:15] <besogon> Does anybody know how to connect to 'Personal File Sharing' service not using nautilus
[05:15] <besogon> ?
[05:16] <linsus6> the only uuid I see in fstab is for swap
[05:17] <besogon> linsus6: sudo blkid
[05:18] <linsus6> ya I did that but then what I do
[05:18] <besogon> linsus6: Do you need an example fstab file?
[05:19] <Jon--> What do I have to add to my $PATH to get g++ includes working? Having issues with a few
[05:20] <linsus6> you want I paste what I got in fstab and what I got with blkid?
[05:20] <besogon> linsus6: ok
[05:20] <xbonesx> icarus-c: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/GNOME.html <--- finally found that website again i was talking about
[05:20] <besogon> linsus6: do it
[05:22] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/KjhypWJG
[05:23] <ha1331> Hello. How can I connect to openVPN server from ubuntu. I created the connection with "Network Connections" app at System->Preferences, how ever I haven't found a way to actually use the connection.
[05:24] <besogon> linsus6: give me a minute. I have to boot my other computer as this hasn't any windows partitions
[05:26] <linsus6> it look fine to me just confirm
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, so you could replace  "/dev/sdc2"  with  ''' UUID="75ea1cf9-5fcc-489b-a7ca-a2a4b92d020b"  '''
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, in fstab
[05:29] <icarus-c> linsus6, and UUID="c46623d2-003a-4d89-8d35-93908a0eb358"  for /dev/sdc1
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> AHHH
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> Done :D
[05:30] <MooshiMuushi> Hey Everyone :D
[05:31] <linsus6> so I erase /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc2 for put UUID=?
[05:32] <spvensko_> what's the easiest way to install sun java on ubuntu 10.04?
[05:32] <icarus-c> linsus6, yes. like the swap one
[05:32] <besogon> linsus6: So if you don't need automount windows partitions then I tell you
[05:33] <besogon> linsus6: just replace /dev/sdcX with UUID=XXX
[05:34] <besogon> linsus6: I thought I had needed automount windows partitions
[05:34] <besogon> linsus6: don't you?
[05:35] <icarus-c> !java | spvensko_
[05:35] <linsus6> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/dfg4q7q3
[05:36] <icarus-c> xbonesx, that site about gnome seems dated
[05:36] <besogon> linsus6: good
[05:36] <icarus-c> xbonesx, if i get it right, it is targeted for GNOME 2.4
[05:36] <linsus6> ok thank guys will try this in 1 minutes
[05:37] <xbonesx> icarus-c: its helped me out with knowing where stuff was, you know of another that is more up-to-date?
[05:37] <icarus-c> linsus6, just so you know, you could also add the entries for your Windows partitions to automount them
[05:37] <icarus-c> you could use UUID for ntfs too
[05:37] <icarus-c> xbonesx, gnome doc
[05:38] <xbonesx> icarus-c: where that?
[05:38] <huangg> 有人看得懂中文吗
[05:38] <xbonesx> icarus-c: man???
[05:38] <icarus-c> xbonesx, http://library.gnome.org/
[05:38] <icarus-c> !cn | huangg
[05:38] <besogon> huangg: ;)
[05:39] <huangg> beachbrake: :)
[05:39] <linsus6> no because is an external hard drive that I can connect to every computer, the grub is on the disk not on hd0
[05:40] <kelvinella> how do i know if i have installed php in ubuntu?
[05:40] <AbhiJit> kelvie_, you installed apache too?
[05:40] <maco> kelvinella: dpgk -l php5
[05:41] <maco> kelvinella: if it starts with "ii" its installed
[05:41] <kelvinella> -bash: dpgk: command not found
[05:42] <rww> kelvinella: dpkg
[05:42] <AbhiJit> dpkg
[05:42] <kelvinella> No packages found matching php5.
[05:42] <kelvinella> does installing lamp will install php?
[05:42] <kelvinella> i installed lamp by sudo tasksel
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: thats what the p in lamp stands for
[05:43] <kelvinella> but No packages found matching php5.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: try: dpkg -l | grep php
[05:44] <linsus6> ok one last question was is the command for know where grub is install
[05:44] <kelvinella> ok thanks
[05:44] <MooshiMuushi> Hey peeps, Is here a way to make more I-frames in avidemux?
[05:44] <MooshiMuushi> there*
[05:44] <kelvinella> hey what is the easiest way to write a simple html file that contains form like name, phone number, etc and a submit button?
[05:45] <kelvinella> after user click submit, it will store into file or database or email to me?
[05:45] <kelvinella> any tutorial online i can check?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: one persons easy, is another hard
[05:45] <kelvinella> ActionParsnip, what u mean?
[05:46] <kelvinella> i need to write a simple html for my boss, we need to gather information from our client
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: there is no blanket "easiest" anything. for example. I fond editting smb.conf to make samba shares extremely easy, yet new users may find it hard
[05:46] <kelvinella> like name, contact numbers
[05:46] <kelvinella> i mean is there tutorial online?
[05:47] <Injaj> hi
[05:47] <kelvinella> i need to make it happen next week
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: so there is no "easy" way, it depends on experience and skillset
[05:47] <maco> ActionParsnip: er... a submit form is pretty easy
[05:47] <Injaj> how can I change the way the date is displayed in linux commands such as ls? For example, I want to see the year in the "date modified" field. Hopefully it's a global setting for all programs.
[05:48] <kelvinella> maco, can u show me
[05:48] <Injaj> tutorial for what
[05:48] <kelvinella> last time i write html code is like back in 1998
[05:48] <maco> kelvinella: w3schools can show you how to use html tags to make a form
[05:48] <kelvinella> where?
[05:48] <Injaj> google w3schools to get to their site
[05:48] <linsus6> ok one last question was is the command for know where grub is install
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialaWebDap.html
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> maco: not for someone like me with zero skill in php, sql etc. Very hard
[05:49] <maco> ActionParsnip: no sql needed to send an email
[05:49] <jixe> Hi i need some help setting up ubuntu....
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> jixe: ask away
[05:50] <kelvinella> what is xhtml?
[05:50] <kelvinella> and html5?
[05:50] <jixe> I installed, then when I rebooted it was only a flashing line
[05:50] <kelvinella> wow last time i know there is html, javascript
[05:50] <rww> !ot
[05:50] <jixe> and the alternative boot options give error I/O msgs
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> jixe: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[05:50] <Injaj> kelvinella: xhtml was a standard to transmit markup info in XML format. I don't think it caught on too well. HTML5 is the latest version of the HTML standard.
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: html5 is the thing that comes after html4
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: simple thing to do is just use formmail.pl (google it) to submit a form
[05:50] <jixe> thx :~)
[05:50] <maco> kelvinella: itll email the contents of the form to you
[05:50] <kelvinella> i have been outdated,
[05:52] <linsus6> ok then I will ask my question later thank
[05:52] <jixe> * At install screen press F6 and select nomodeset and install Ubuntu as usual. --- which install screen is this?
[05:53] <DarkSector> kelvinella, http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/07/29/misunderstanding-markup-xhtml-2-comic-strip/
[05:53] <maco> jixe: the one where it asks "start or install?"
[05:53] <kelvinella> w3school site is nice
[05:53] <kelvinella> how come video tag can play video and people still use flash to play video??
[05:54] <rww> because websites are slow to adopt new technology
[05:54] <kelvinella> never know there is a video tag, it doesnt have that back in 98
[05:54] <jixe> the install screen on boot?
[05:54] <maco> thats new for html5
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> jixe: hold shift at boot and you can set boot options in grub2's menu
[05:55] <kelvinella> i want to make a site that is fast, should i stick with html5 only?
[05:55] <jixe> i'll try....
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: people use flash as it is cross platform afaik
[05:56] <DarkSector> kelvinella, it takes time to make a website using html 5, tutorials and all, stick with xhtml and then change doctype to html5
[05:56] <DarkSector> thats the good thing about html5 all types of semantics are supported
[05:57] <Dulak> something like 95% of browsers have flash installed, nowhere near 95% support html5
[05:57] <kelvinella> what do u mean cross platform?
[05:57] <kelvinella> video tag is not support in windows or osx?
[05:57] <maco> kelvinella: different browsers disagree on how to implement <video> while flash is theoretically the same everywhere
[05:57] <renedox> works across different operatings systems
[05:57] <renedox> and browsers
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: flash plugin is made for all browsers and will run seamlessly in all browsers
[05:58] <kelvinella> as long as it works on ff or opera i think it is fine
[05:58] <kelvinella> no one really care about other browser i think
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> kelvinella: video tag requires an extra program installing, flash just adds a small extra functionality to an existing app
[05:59] <kelvinella> so video tag require browser has the correct plugin to play the file?
[05:59] <renedox> not plugin, implementation
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> |Its offtopic either way ;). This is ubuntu support only
[06:00] <Dulak> except the 50% of people using IE.  If the goal is for the most people as possible to be able to see your content, ignoring 50% of them right off the bat is just plain dumb
[06:00] <maco> ActionParsnip: ehhh flash plugin isnt exactly seamless in khtml browsers
[06:00] <maco> right...
[06:01] <DarkSector> Dulak, iirc to enable the tags of html5 like the <header> you need to just enable them in the css file. So, a minimal html5 website will work on all browsers
[06:01] <DarkSector> Dulak, and IE ! dear god
[06:02] <beefncheese> Ryen, just commented of your 4chan reply. what desktop environment are you using?
[06:03] <maco> kelvinella: see PM
[06:04] <Dulak> DarkSector: I sell stuff online, the lowest common denominator pays my bills, IE is well over half of my sales.  I like IE users, they are dumb enough to buy my stuff.
[06:04] <DarkSector> Dulak, hahahaha :) well now we know who uses IE :D
[06:05] <Dulak> The buyers.
[06:05] <rww> alrighty, so now that we've had 15 minutes of offtopic, can it move to #ubuntu-offtopic ;P?
[06:05] <renedox> you can't make such a sweeping generalisation like that
[06:05] <DarkSector> rww, sure
[06:05] <renedox> IE users might make up 50% of your userbase but not everyone elses
[06:06] <DarkSector> !ot > renedox
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> rww: i was trying that earlier..
[06:06] <renedox> DarkSector: I read that after I replied
[06:07] <DarkSector> renedox, alright
[06:07] <willinja> hi how to reset my freenode password ?
[06:07] <rww> willinja: ask in #freenode
[06:07] <Datz>  /join #help
[06:07] <Datz> which is the same room
[06:07] <Datz> iirc
[06:07]  * rww nods
[06:09] <Jixe> Hi, i've done the nomodeset and it worked, now im getting a new error message: Buffer I/O error on device Sr0 Logical block 0
[06:09] <kazagistar> how do I change the password of a user of a computer I cannot log in to, but have access to the hard drive?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: take the CD out of the tray
[06:09] <Jixe> HH
[06:10] <Datz> oh here we go.. idle for awhile and when I try to log back in it's "checking" forever
[06:10] <Jixe> ahh
[06:10] <willinja> any idea why my t400 fail to boot ubuntu lucid ?
[06:10] <Jixe> is that a cd error msg?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: boot to root recovery mode and run: passwd foo    replace foo with your user name you want to change the pasword of
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: yes, sr0 is one of the logical names of the optical drive
[06:10] <Jixe> okay, I didn't know :)
[06:10] <Jixe> thx
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Jixe: np :)
[06:11] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: it seems my recovery mode is password protected :P
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: you set your root password then, you will need to type that to get access. having a root pasword is also not support by the community, nor advised
[06:12] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: after that warning, I hate to ask, but how do I reset the root password in this case?
[06:13] <Datz> for some reason when I let my system idle too long, and it propts me for a password, I type it, it checks for a couple min, then goes back to pass promt. I can switch user and log back in though
[06:13] <kazagistar> when I finish, I can always change it back to * or something, if I remember correctly?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: you MAY be able to boot to liveCD and chroot, this is WHY root account is disabled. You are probably going to be REALLY screwed and need a reinstall if yuo cant do it with a chroot
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: next time I suggest you follow the community guidelines and stay OFF root
[06:15] <willinja> do u get redirect to #ubuntu-unregged when u login to the irc?
[06:17] <seidos> willinja, only if i'm not identified fast enough.
[06:19] <willinja> i tried the feature of using the password login
[06:19] <willinja> by filling the nickserver password
[06:20] <willinja> in the xchat networklist
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: what possessed you to set the root password anyway??
[06:21] <kazagistar> ActionParsnip: sorry, I was asking for help in the wrong channel, I am using Crunchbang
[06:22] <willinja> do lampp and xampp is that different ?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> kazagistar: yeah wrong channel, gl dude :)
[06:22] <willinja> since lampp is 1.1 but xampp is like 1.7.3
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> willinja: lamp uses linux, xampp uses any OS
[06:23] <willinja> ActionParsnip, lampp is more secure ?
[06:23] <logan_wolf> hi all
[06:24] <willinja> hi logan_wolf
[06:25] <worch> How do you update hdd partition block devices after modifying master boot records?
[06:26] <chenlong> Can ubuntu use mac software?
[06:26] <logan_wolf> what is the best ide for C++ programming on lucid??
[06:26] <prince_jammys> !ide | logan_wolf
[06:26] <Flannel> logan_wolf: Eclipse (with CDT) or Anjuta are probably your best bets
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: no but it can run equivelants
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> logan_wolf: there is not best app for anything
[06:27] <logan_wolf> hmmm thnx guys I have been using vim for a long time I find it good but now would try something else as well ;)
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> logan_wolf: there is no blanket best anything in life
[06:28] <chenlong> geany is ok
[06:29] <chenlong> I found KDE is not easy to use.
[06:29] <Blue1> chenlong: well like they say -- there's no place, like gnome
[06:30] <chenlong> en
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Blue1: I thought it was, no place like <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:30] <chenlong> yeah
[06:30] <almoxarife> I have found it practical to run the kde apps I like in gnome, rather than deal with the whole desktop
[06:30] <Blue1> ActionParsnip: indeed
[06:31] <chenlong>  what is <IP_ADDRESS>?
[06:31] <Blue1> almoxarife: that's what I do. however running kontact, pretty much hauls in most of kde along with it.
[06:32] <Blue1> chenlong: localhost (your computer)
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: IP address of loopbck device
[06:32] <Datz> try tapping your red shoes togeather Dorothy
[06:32] <Datz> ot?
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> chenlong: its the address used if processes on the same PC want to talk
[06:32] <Blue1> Datz: toto too?
[06:33] <Datz> humm, in that case, we'd have to get shoes for toto
[06:33] <almoxarife> Blue1: I don't mind the overhead as much as being stuck in a desktop that just does not work for me, it's a matter of taste I guess