[00:00] <leafcutter9000> D3814N: Could be an issue with it starting, I suggest checking the logs
[00:00] <th0r> D3814N: start gnome-panel and when you log out make sure you save the session.
[00:00] <D3814N> ok thanks leafcutter9000 and th0r
[00:00] <Lataria> my ubuntu don't start properly I'm in other PC but i've managed to start command line whi net protocols
[00:00] <Lataria> can i connect to internet?
[00:01] <Lataria> 10.04
[00:01] <Viking667> meh. I'm not having much luck with IRC servers today.
[00:01] <Tech-1> Does this have to be added to apparmor ? --- processes are unconfined but have a profile defined.   /sbin/dhclient (1052)
[00:04] <gamingdroid> what is the proper way to change the user/group of apache? when I look inside the conf file there is some kind of script...???
[00:04] <leafcutter9000> Tech-1: If you restart the process, it will be protected by apparmor
[00:04] <Tech-1> ah, ic , ok..thanks
[00:04] <leafcutter9000> Tech-1: The process was probably started before apparmor loaded
[00:05] <Tech-1> ya, it was
[00:05] <Tech-1> on boot
[00:05] <Tech-1> i see how it works now..thanks
[00:05] <Lataria> Infernet:  no encunetra la sap o no esta instalada es lo primero que sale
[00:05] <Lataria> después se apaga si quiero arrancar normal
[00:06] <Lataria> sorry
[00:07] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: You want to change the user which starts the apache program? Or the user who owns the web files apache serves?
[00:07] <gamingdroid> I want to change the user that apache spawns as, currently it is www-data
[00:08] <gamingdroid> leafcutter9000: ^^^
[00:09] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: You can specify the user/group in your httpd.conf, and run apache as root. It will switch to the user you specify
[00:09] <leafcutter9000> Not sure why you'd need to run as a different user though
[00:09] <bizby> I need help with grub after installing windows. I ran grub-install from a livecd, but when I boot up it just gives me a grub command prompt... update-grub gives me an error
[00:11] <gamingdroid> leafcutter9000: There is a comment in the apache2.conf file suggesting thisL "# These need to be set in /etc/apache2/envvars" When I go into that file it is some kind of script?
[00:12] <Ibyss> How can I browse in another partition, via, terminal?
[00:12] <dr_willis> env vars = bash enviroment variables.. im guessing
[00:12] <leafcutter9000> gamingdroid: I'd presume an additional config file. I've only setup apache on Red Hat
[00:12] <Ibyss> I want to look in sda3
[00:12] <dr_willis> Ibyss:  cd to its mounted location
[00:12] <edbian> Ibyss: Mount that partition (it may already be) than go to that folder.
[00:12] <dr_willis> !mount
[00:13] <bizby> sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt
[00:14] <Intel_iX> how do you share public keys with "passwords and encryption"?
[00:15] <torsion> vlc n00b here. How do I use the get_length command? I have an mp4 file here, what magic command do I type to get its length?
[00:15] <Viking667> why do you need that length?
[00:16] <ratkinson> I have a small script i need to autostart when ubuntu 11.04 starts. where do i add it to make it start when ubuntu starts?
[00:16] <ZeZu> why does apt tell me packages are held back and i need to do a dist-upgrade to get them?   I thought dist-upgrade was meant to move to the next release?   ie:  when unstable is moved to stable ...
[00:16] <ASKidwai> how do i make qBittorrent start on boot?
[00:16] <edbian> ZeZu: do-release-upgrade is used to move from one release to the next.  Not sure what dist-upgrade is for anymore...
[00:16] <ZeZu> ratkinson, you can add it to the startup scripts depending on how you would like it run ( IE: which runlevel, and if you need it restarted if its quit )
[00:17] <zeppelin101> how can i find out what's the max supported (custom resolution) for my graphics adapter? It's intel integrated gfx in my aspire 5741-5763
[00:17] <ZeZu> edbian, ok thanks,  I am sane though,  thats what it used to be for?
[00:17] <dr_willis> edbian:  i finf dist-upgrade pulls in a 'more intensive' upgrade. often kernels and drivers
[00:17] <Viking667> ZeZu: you did try :apt-get upgrade: first?
[00:17] <ZeZu> I was thinking that they were being held back because of incompatibilities w/ binary drivers,  but was surprised to see dist-upgrade lets me
[00:17] <frozenpacket> Anyone know anything about Roll back?
[00:17] <ratkinson> ZeZu: where are the startup scripts located?
[00:18] <ZeZu> Viking667, of course, thats what said they were held bakc
[00:18] <edbian> ZeZu: According to the man page it is a more intense upgrade (I just use sudo aptitude safe-upgrade)
[00:18] <ZeZu> ratkinson,  look at docs for initd
[00:18] <ASKidwai> how do i make qBittorrent start on boot?
[00:19] <ratkinson> ZeZu on the ubuntu forums?
[00:19] <edbian> ASKidwai: add it to system -> preferences -> startup
[00:19] <Jordan_U> ZeZu: dist-upgrade is used when to update certain packages other packages must be installed or removed (rather than just updated). This normall means that something is somewhat broken if you're not using a development release (also common if you use poorly managed ppas)
[00:19] <ASKidwai> edbian, where is the executable binary?
[00:19] <ZeZu> Jordan_U, thanks
[00:19] <edbian> ASKidwai: what program is it?
[00:19] <frozenpacket> so does anybody know anything about Ubuntu or is everyone pretty much lurking just asking
[00:20] <ASKidwai> qBittorent
[00:20] <ParadigmUltra> Is there a way to edit lyrics in Banshee?
[00:20] <Viking667> frozenpacket: I know some stuff but not a lot.
[00:20] <ASKidwai> installed from Ubuntu software center
[00:20] <ZeZu> ratkinson, i'm sure the ubuntu forums might find it too,  i just use google personally
[00:20] <edbian> ASKidwai: somewhere in /usr/bin
[00:20] <edbian> ASKidwai: assuming it was installed from the package manager
[00:20] <ASKidwai> edbian, installed from Ubuntu software center
[00:20] <mcurran> Anyone know the fix when you cannot connect to unsecured wireless networks?
[00:21] <th0r> mcurran: install a wifi card?
[00:21] <aeon-ltd> ParadigmUltra: depends how they handle them, if say they cache them they should have a dotfolder with all of the ones you have downloaded
[00:21] <Artificial_24> I keep getting a build error -> http://pastebin.com/xhWjbM0f
[00:21] <Artificial_24> Anyone know if the program was badly downloaded or am I missing something..
[00:22] <mcurran> I have an installed wireless card, works fine.  I use wicd and or dhclient, but I can only connect to encrypted networks.  If i try to connect to an unsecured AP, I cannot connect.
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: then it's in /usr/bin.  However ubuntu automatically looks in certain locations (including /usr/bin) when you give a command.  So likely you can just guess the name in the terminal and that will be enough to run the program.  /usr/bin has a LOT of stuff in it.
[00:22] <ASKidwai> edbian, thank you :D
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: The ubuntu software center is a graphical front-end to the package manager apt
[00:22] <edbian> ASKidwai: sure
[00:22] <ASKidwai> :D
[00:23] <ParadigmUltra> aeon-ltd: I used iTunes to write all my lyrics into the mp3 file, and they all display in Banshee, but I can't see how to add more manually
[00:23] <Troy^> ok so when i plug my headphones in i can still hear the sound over my laptop speakers. so how do i prevent the laptop speakers from staying on when headphones plugged in?
[00:23] <Viking667> Artificial_24: check lengths of the original tarball
[00:23] <ParadigmUltra> Troy^: I had that problem in 9.10, I fixed by upgrading to 11.4
[00:23] <frozenpacket> edbian: Do you know anything about Graphics cards?
[00:24] <ASKidwai> Troy^, did you plug it in the headphone port or mic port?
[00:24] <Viking667> the other thing to try would be extracting by using the shell, instead of a GUI. That'll sometimes turn up whether the package was broken.
[00:24] <edbian> frozenpacket: yep.  ati or nvidia?
[00:24] <ratkinson> ZeZu, if i add my script to the end of /etc/init.d/x11-common will it screw anything up?
[00:24] <Troy^> no the speaker port
[00:24] <edbian> ratkinson: The correct place would be /etc/rc.local
[00:24] <frozenpacket> edbian: i know what i have to do but i tried it and doesn't work
[00:24] <ratkinson> oh ok
[00:24] <ratkinson> thanks!
[00:24] <frozenpacket> edbian: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4
[00:24] <Drone4four> ok, what does it say?
[00:24] <Troy^> well im using a self installed alsa driver due to laptop subwoofer not working with standard driver
[00:25] <th0r> mcurran: usually the other way around. What errors do you get when it fails. Have you checked dmesg after trying? Or better yet, start a 'tail -f /var/log/messages' before attempting so you can see errors in real time
[00:25] <Drone4four> damn, wrong channel
[00:25] <Drone4four> nvm
[00:25] <Viking667> Right. I'll go see if I can prod something into life.   Now I have to go aquire another copy without restrictions.
[00:25] <edbian> frozenpacket: how are you trying to edit it? gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[00:26] <ParadigmUltra> I'm buying from amazon from now on
[00:26] <Troy^> uh oh now i have no sound
[00:26] <edbian> ParadigmUltra: DRM stinks
[00:26] <frozenpacket> edbian: what its not working when i do Sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4
[00:26] <mcurran> I get this, which is basically a non-authentication/timeout I believe:  No DHCPOFFERS received.
[00:26] <mcurran> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[00:26] <ASKidwai>  /usr needs root but I write some stuff for a site that that requires me to download and upload stuff and the download manager needs access to /usr
[00:26] <th0r> mcurran: right, looks like a dhcp issue
[00:27] <ASKidwai> my question is, is there anyway to give it access
[00:27] <qin> ASKidwai: site? You mean www?
[00:27] <ASKidwai> qin, yes
[00:27] <edbian> frozenpacket: One thing at a time.  Were you able to edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[00:27] <Artificial_24> Can someone give me the link that was offered earlier regarding the realtek wifi drivers?
[00:27] <ratkinson> edbian: when i edit rc.local it says by default this script does nothing. How would i go about enabling it?
[00:27] <qin> ASKidwai: Anywhere you want.
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian: no i wasn't
[00:27] <dewey42> which loadkeys should I use for spanish keyboard?
[00:27] <frozenpacket> edbian: it won't let me edit anything in that file
[00:28] <ZeZu> ratkinson, sorry bit busy here,  take a look in:  /etc/init.d/README
[00:28] <ratkinson> ok
[00:28] <ratkinson> thanks
[00:28] <ZeZu> it gives a few notes and some links
[00:28] <Artificial_24> i believe it was spoken of earlier by Th0r, he pasted ubuntu forums url, if anyone can give it to me again I'd appricate it.
[00:28] <ZeZu> basically you don't need to edit any of htem
[00:28] <edbian> ratkinson: It runs by default.  It just doesn't do anything.
[00:28] <ZeZu>  you just add another script in the appropriate place that does nothing other than startup your app and tell what to do if it needs to be restart .... mostly for services
[00:28] <Frankyo> Im gonna give up
[00:28] <edbian> frozenpacket: answer my question then.  How did you edit it?  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:29] <ASKidwai> qin, the download only does stuff in /usr
[00:29] <ZeZu> Frankyo, giving up is your own issue :)  .... what is your issue anyhow ?
[00:29] <ASKidwai> qin, I can't control where it does that
[00:29] <Frankyo> i been trying for days to get Belkin f7d2101 to work with ubuntu 10.04
[00:29] <frozenpacket> edbain: i wasn't able to edit it...
[00:29] <ZeZu> Frankyo,  I don't have one of those, sorry .... what is it?  usb wifi ?
[00:29] <frozenpacket> edbain: i open the file i can read it in notepad but i can't edit it
[00:29] <Frankyo> usb wifi
[00:30] <mcurran> NO th0r, It's not a dhcp issue, even though it looks like it.  I cannot connect to the unsecured AP's, while they connect fine in windows.  This is the same result for any unsecured network using either wicd-client, nm, or dhclient, and I'm not the only one.  Cannot find a solution yet online.
[00:30] <edbian> frozenpacket: Are you using windows to edit this file?  How are you using notepad?
[00:30] <Frankyo> i did the procedures of this forum  --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9759011
[00:30] <ZeZu> Frankyo, you use iwconfig ?
[00:30] <Frankyo> zezu: no i did not
[00:30] <Frankyo> i did lsusb
[00:31] <robin0800> Artificial_24, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604101
[00:31] <frozenpacket> edbian: sorry text editor
[00:31] <ZeZu> Frankyo,  ok lsusb just lists usb devices plugged in,  .... i mean if you got that firmware file in link you posted etc ...
[00:31] <ZeZu> then is it being loaded and used ?
[00:31] <Frankyo> when i do lsusb i see the device   bus 001 Device 004: ID 050D:2103 Belkin componets
[00:31] <edbian> frozenpacket: Use this: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   after you edit / save the file and sudo apt-get update the package will appear.
[00:31] <ZeZu> ok so do a lsmod and see if your driver is loaded
[00:31] <Frankyo> i see the device but its not working, i can't connect to the internet and the light on the usb belkin does not turn on
[00:32] <Artificial_24> robin0800: thanks
[00:32] <ZeZu> ok but is the driver loaded ?
[00:32] <ASKidwai> qin, the download manager only uses stuff in /usr
[00:32] <ZeZu> if not, then thats not surprising
[00:32] <ZeZu> lsmod should list r8192s_usb
[00:32] <ZeZu> if not then try:  sudo modprobe r8192s_usb
[00:34] <mcurran> for using realtek 8192 usb, download the newest driver directly from realtek's website.  You will need to know the specific chip 8192CU, 8192SE, etc.
[00:34] <ParadigmUltra> So there is no way to edit the Lyrics metadata of mp3s in banshee?
[00:34] <mcurran> then modprobe -l <driver>
[00:34] <Artificial_24> Viking667: Its the exact same size as it is on the ftp.
[00:35] <Viking667> hm. is there any md5sum data?
[00:35] <Viking667> ... though personally, from what you posted, I suspect a missing/changed header file.
[00:35] <Frankyo> Zezu: http://pastebin.com/xRdauhcM
[00:36] <Viking667> Anyway, I'm heading off to do some testing.
[00:37] <odie5533> Where should I install programs I compile from source?
[00:37] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/local/bin or ~/bi
[00:37] <edbian> n
[00:37] <edbian> odie5533: ~/bin if only your user is going to use it
[00:38] <odie5533> What is /usr/bin/ for?
[00:38] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/bin is for binaries installed by the package manager
[00:38] <edbian> odie5533: /usr/local/bin is for things you've manually installed that everybody can use.
[00:38] <odie5533> how does it differ from /bin?
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: /bin is stuff that is core to the system and cannot / should not be removed.
[00:39] <Frankyo> Zezu: Fatal: Module 8192s_usb not found
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: Things like cd go in /bin
[00:39] <odie5533> oh. thank you.
[00:39] <edbian> odie5533: sure :)
[00:39] <witeshark> still not able to boot 11.04
[00:40] <Frankyo> can i pm you please?
[00:40] <witeshark> the repair MBR steps appeared to work but it still won't boot
[00:40] <edbian> witeshark: What happens when you try to boot?
[00:40] <Frankyo> mcurran and zezu  can i pm you please
[00:41] <Cerrdor> how do I open a .jar file in Ubuntu?
[00:41] <Frozenpacket> Okay did that whats next?
[00:41] <witeshark> edbian: the error seen here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1432486
[00:41] <mcurran> sure
[00:41] <Cerrdor> do I need to open it in terminal or browse to the file
[00:41] <Cainus> hey all...  I'm currently piping a command to /bin/true to get it to give a 0 exit code everytime... is there a way to get it to give a 0 exit code if it's 0 or 2 (but not 1)?
[00:41] <edbian> witeshark: reading...
[00:42] <edbian> witeshark: you did what jeff anthony said in the second post?
[00:43] <witeshark> edbian: not yet - i did all this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[00:43] <odie5533> What does the 'source' program do? It has no man page.
[00:43] <zeppelin101> any here use a kvm switch (or output to monitor from laptop using a vga cable)? for some reason, the picture i get on the monitor is quite lacking in brightness/color, and this is something which does not match the laptop's or the monitor's settings
[00:44] <edbian> witeshark: What happens right now when you boot?  (did any of these steps change anything?)
[00:44] <unomi> is it just me that finds it really annoying and silly that: Alt+rightdrag doesn't resize. When you get a 'New Mail notification', you can't actually click on the popup to read it ( and it has no info on the email ( title, sender *anything* ). When you are in the file navigator - you can't seem to choose to open a terminal window in a given folder?
[00:44] <Cerrdor> how do I open a .jar file in Ubuntu?
[00:45] <Zelda> hello. is there an app that will help with the system management. LIke throttling down cpu and brightness etc?
[00:45] <witeshark> edbian: no change - get exactly what's seen in the first post from UBF
[00:45] <edbian> Cerrdor: .jar files are compressed (zip I believe).  Open it with file-roller
[00:45] <zeppelin101> zelda: you can surely adjust brightness with 'monitor' applet. just search for it
[00:45] <robin0800> unomi, think theirs a nautilus add on for that
[00:45] <edbian> witeshark: Then a mistake was made.  I can help walk you through it.  I have fixed this issue before.  Are you in Ubuntu right now??
[00:46] <witeshark> i'm running off my live CD
[00:46] <Cerrdor> edbian, archiver?
[00:46] <Loshki> odie5533: source is a shell builtin, search 'man bash
[00:46] <Zelda> @zeppelin I know that. Is there an app to throttle down the cpu mine is always running and the fans are getting to hot for the notebook to be sitting here.
[00:46] <edbian> Cerrdor: sure
[00:46] <edbian> witeshark: Did you mount the ubuntu partition in /mnt  ?
[00:47] <Cerrdor> just says it not able to open it
[00:47] <edbian> Cerrdor: Then I'm not sure
[00:47] <Pici> Cainus: I'm sure you probably could do something fancy with || and && to do that, but I'd need to be more awake than I am right now to tell you how.  Have you tried asking in #bash ?
[00:48] <edbian> Cerrdor: extract JAR files using the jar command that comes with a JDK
[00:48] <witeshark> edbian: i just followed the steps in the link i posted -- i did get the 'installation finished - no errors reported' message - but no reboot
[00:48] <odie5533> Loshki: Thanks. I did help source and that helped :)
[00:48] <witeshark> edbian:  should we pm?
[00:48] <edbian> witeshark: if you want to PM I am up for it
[00:49] <Zelda> anyone?
[00:49] <odie5533> Every program I look for wants me to build it from source and recommends that over using the repos. Isn't the whole point of having repos so I don't have to build everything from source?
[00:49] <Cainus> Pici: trying now :)
[00:49] <Cainus> thanks
[00:49] <odie5533> When should I ever build a program from source when it's available in a repo somewhere?
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: yes, ignore that advice.  If it's in the repos use the repos unless YOU want some feature that is not in the version in the repos
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: If the version in the repo has a bug or is missing a feature.
[00:50] <edbian> odie5533: ALWAYS install from the repos first.
[00:50] <Pici> Also remember:
[00:50] <Pici> !latest
[00:51] <Unbuntu_N0oB> Can anyone tell me how to create a directory easily ? I mkdired but when I try to create a subdirectory in it ...  I didn't realize they only update for security problems between releases.
[00:53] <Unbuntu_N0oB> edbian:  I did but .... lemme explain more in details: I am creating this dir so that I can install a virtualBox in it .... But when i run VirtualBox, I then get the permission error .... So basically, I want a directory that can be used by an application ..... and have the right permissions
[00:54] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: put the directory in your home folder (don't use sudo)
[00:54] <Unbuntu_N0oB> I tried but VirtualBox crashed because my home is encrypted ...
[00:55] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: Then sudo mkdir /some/where/else/  and then sudo chown you:you /some/where/else/
[00:56] <zeppelin101> is it dangerous to use xrandr to set a non-standard resolution for my laptop? (e.g. native is 1366x768 and i wanna set it to 1680x1050)?
[01:01] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, if your card and monitor support it, 1680x1050 is not a problem
[01:01] <zeppelin101> fluvvell: 1680x1050 is monitor's native, but i have no idea if my laptop's [intel] integrated graphics chipset supports it
[01:02] <zeppelin101> it's certainly not one of the resolutions listed for LVDS1 when i run 'xrandr'
[01:03] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, the laptop monitor might not support it, but when you plug in the monitor it may be available in xrandr
[01:04] <fluvvell> thats what happens on my HP laptop.
[01:04] <zeppelin101> fluvvell: it might or might not support it, but i'm not sure if i should just run 'xrandr --output LDVS1 --mode 1680x1050'. Is that dangerous (forcing a non-standard resolution on the intel adapter)?
[01:05] <M4d3L> hi. anyone is using last version of cacti on ubuntu?
[01:05] <tyler_d> I have the nvidia drivers installed through the supported repositories; however I do not have 3d support. Hep me please?
[01:05] <fluvvell> zeppelin101, can you test it from the desktop with System->Preferences->Monitors?  That uses xrandr AFAIK
[01:05] <ikonia> M4d3L: which version ?
[01:06] <M4d3L> ikonia: 0.8.7g
[01:06] <ikonia> !info cacti
[01:06] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's the one currently in the reop
[01:06] <ikonia> repo
[01:06] <Cerrdor> anyone familiar with curl?
[01:07] <M4d3L> hum... it install the version 0.8.7e when I try to install it
[01:07] <M4d3L> on 10.04
[01:07] <Unbuntu_N0oB> edbian:  thanks a lot man ! It works !!!
[01:07] <ikonia> M4d3L: ahhh, that makes sense, 10.04 is older
[01:07] <M4d3L> can I upgrade to newer? on my server
[01:07] <ratkinson> alright, ive been trying and trying to get this to work and i cant figure it out. All i want to id is launch chromium-browser -- kiosk 10 seconds after boot... how do i do that (dont need anything special, dont care if it reopens after its been closed just want it to launch after booting into ubuntu)
[01:08] <ratkinson> id = do
[01:08] <ikonia> M4d3L: not through the package manager
[01:08] <ikonia> M4d3L: is there a problem with the version in 10.04
[01:08] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you could make a custome x session for that.
[01:08] <M4d3L> dha
[01:09] <Northernen> '
[01:09] <bkerensa> Anyone know why images uploaded by Shotwell are not editable on FB?
[01:09] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  there may be some koisk howtos out for chromiom or some extenstions also
[01:10] <edbian> Unbuntu_N0oB: sure
[01:10] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i have penmount touchscreen drivers loading in my current (default) session will it effect that?
[01:10] <unomi> I swear that new mail popup is TAUNTING ME
[01:10] <M4d3L> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades is not good?
[01:10] <ratkinson> dr_willis: if i run chromium-browser --kiosk in a terminal it does exactly what i want it to do
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's an upgrade of the whole OS
[01:11] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  depends on how they are getting loaded.  you can make a .xinitrc to run exactly what you tell it to
[01:11] <M4d3L> yeah. it what I mean
[01:11] <M4d3L> upgrade to 10.10?
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: personally, I wouldn't as you'll lose LTS support
[01:11] <dr_willis> or copy and edit the gnome.desktop gdm file
[01:11] <ikonia> M4d3L: is there a reason you want to upgrade cacti ?
[01:12] <M4d3L> to use plugin in fact
[01:12] <ratkinson> dr_willis: all i want to run after ubuntu 11.04 loads is bash sleep 30; "chromium-browser --kiosk"
[01:12] <ikonia> M4d3L: which plugin ?
[01:12] <M4d3L> I have updated it. to last version manually. data is fetch but graph stay empty : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/163/graphimagephp.png/
[01:13] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you mean after x starts.. you can make a custome x session to do that
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: what have you updated manually ?
[01:13] <M4d3L> cacti
[01:13] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i cnt just add it to a script that already runs in the current x?
[01:13] <M4d3L> from 0.8.7e to g
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: that's a very bad idea, ubuntu's layout and plugin layout is custom, it's non-standard
[01:13] <ikonia> M4d3L: why did you update it from e to g ?
[01:13] <ratkinson> i guess i dont fully understand what a x session is tbh
[01:13] <M4d3L> to have last version lol
[01:14] <ikonia> M4d3L: then you have made a pointless mess of your system
[01:14] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  you want just the browser? or a normal desktop.and the browser..
[01:14] <ratkinson> yup
[01:14] <ikonia> M4d3L: if there is no reason to update and you've done it blindly with no understanding of the changes ubuntu makes, you will have broke it
[01:14] <ratkinson> well
[01:14] <ratkinson> dr_willis: normal desktop and the browser
[01:15] <M4d3L> I just updated php file.
[01:15] <M4d3L> its not supose to break. :(
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: it is
[01:15] <M4d3L> I have pay attention to config setup
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: as I said, ubuntu lays out a lot of things different,
[01:15] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  so use the autorun dir. and make a simple 2 line script.
[01:15] <ratkinson> dr_willis: can i add a bash command to the end of and currently running scripts?
[01:15] <M4d3L> so its better to install cacti wihout package?
[01:15] <ikonia> M4d3L: no, it's better to use the package manager
[01:15] <M4d3L> standalone
[01:16] <dr_willis> ratkinson: you are using gnome?
[01:16] <GTAXL> Anyone know how I can log out of ubuntu when it only shows desktop background?
[01:16] <M4d3L> but we stay with bug more longer?
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: you have just told me there is no reason for you to upgrade, so why waste your time and break support
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: what bug ?
[01:16] <ratkinson> dr_willis: ok :) wheres the auto run dir? I'm using a fresh clean install of ubuntu 11.04
[01:16] <M4d3L> all bug cacti have fix
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: do any of them effect you ?
[01:16] <ratkinson> dr_willis: so yes i am using gnome
[01:16] <dr_willis> !autorun
[01:16] <ikonia> M4d3L: and not all version updates are bug fixes, some change functionality
[01:16] <dr_willis> !startup
[01:17] <dr_willis>  .config/atuorun i think
[01:17] <ratkinson> !boot
[01:17] <dr_willis> its not running at boot.. its at user login
[01:18] <ratkinson> ok
[01:19] <dr_willis>   .config/autostart   not run
[01:20] <ParadigmUltra> Well, I found that i can edit the lyrics using Rhytmbox :-/
[01:20] <ratkinson> dr_willis: how would i get to the .config/autostart location from terminal
[01:20] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i tried cd /.config
[01:21] <ratkinson> im sorry for being such a noob
[01:21] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  via cd command.. you may want to spend an hr learning shell basics
[01:21] <dr_willis> cd .config
[01:22] <dr_willis>   / means the root of the filesystem...
[01:22] <ratkinson> ah
[01:22] <dr_willis> bash / filesystem basics
[01:23] <ratkinson> dr_willis: so once im in .config/autostart/ i can just create a .sh file in there and make it exe?
[01:23] <dr_willis>   /home/username/.vonfig/autostart
[01:24] <dr_willis> yes.. make a script file.
[01:25] <dr_willis> 3 lines.. #!/bin/bash     sleep  20       yourcommand
[01:25] <Troy^> #!/usr/bin/env bash
[01:27] <ratkinson> bash -c "sleep 30; chromium-browser --kiosk" wont work? that works from terminal as intended
[01:28] <Troy^> have you chmod u+rx your script that you created
[01:28] <dr_willis> why so complex rat...
[01:29] <ratkinson> I chmod +x chromium.sh
[01:29] <dr_willis> script is allready running in bash.
[01:29] <ratkinson> need the u+rx as well
[01:30] <dr_willis> try it and see i guess. i dont see why you need the u rx
[01:30] <Troy^> no you dont
[01:31] <Troy^> but you dont need the bash command
[01:31] <dr_willis> the 3 lines i gave are a rather standard template script for doing the stuff like this
[01:33] <GTAXL> Anyone know how I can log out of ubuntu when it only shows desktop background?
[01:34] <coz_> GTAXL,   ctrl+alt+F1  log in   sudo  restart gdm
[01:35] <maheanuu> #redeclipse
[01:35] <pooltable> how to i look at my print jobs?
[01:36] <GTAXL> kk. :)
[01:37] <somsip> pooltable: http://localhost:631 if you use CUPS
[01:38] <dr_willis> lpq command  - old school way pooltable
[01:38] <juan_> hello
[01:39] <pooltable> ok i want to reprint a page i print eary in the day ?
[01:40] <GTAXL> Anyway to get rid of the grey bar at the top and bottom and make it match the theme? but without using unity, which is disabled
[01:40] <coz_> GTAXL,  to get rid of the bottom panel ,, right click   "delete panel"
[01:40] <WG1337> Hi! Is it possible to update my autoconf version from 2.50 to 2.67 in Ubuntu Lucid?
[01:40] <GTAXL> No, I wanna keep it. Just change it from grey to match the theme
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,  to get rid of the top panel,,well.. I have seen several   posts about this. but in all honestly I like my top panel so I never really tried any of them
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,  ah I see
[01:41] <coz_> GTAXL,   you mean to match the wallpaper?
[01:42] <GTAXL> no. The top and bottom bar are grey. Looks yuckie. And it doesn't match the theme set.
[01:42] <coz_> GTAXL, can you take a screenshot of the desktop and upload to picpaste.com   let me see what you mean
[01:42] <nickchow> 用蓝牙也可以啊
[01:42] <GTAXL> ok. I'll try
[01:42] <coz_> GTAXL,  just hit the printscreen button for that
[01:42] <GTAXL> ik
[01:44] <chucklarge> hey guys, i just got a 3tb drive.  formatted it ext4 and it shows up as 2tb, any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/uEEd3Mxu
[01:44] <GTAXL> http://picpaste.com/ubuntu-tDdF8TSO.JPG
[01:44] <chucklarge> if i don't partition as sdd1 and sdd instead, i get the 3tb
[01:44] <ikonia> chucklarge: you put a dos based partition table on it
[01:44] <chucklarge> ikonia: uhh really?
[01:45] <chucklarge> heh
[01:45] <preecher> when installing another distro on a partition how do i do it so i get a choice of which one i boot into?-when i install kubuntu on my empty partition i get a choice of booting into kubuntu on the that partition or ubuntu on the partition its on--but if i install something else when i reboot i only get the newly installed distro & ubuntu isnt listed
[01:45] <coz_> GTAXL, oh ok ,, that looks like the default gnome theme
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: they are limited to 2TB
[01:45] <GTAXL> I want it to look like the old Ubuntu
[01:45] <coz_> GTAXL,  go into system/preferences/appearance,,  hit the customize button and change the theme to see if it changes
[01:45] <chucklarge> ikonia:  ok, thought i was doing ext4
[01:45] <frawst> What is the best program to use to boot up a windows program through?
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: ext4 is a file system, not a partition table
[01:45] <GTAXL> It don't change
[01:45] <ikonia> chucklarge: ext4 is correct, but you have used an MS dos based partition table
[01:46] <ikonia> chucklarge: you need to use a GPT partition table
[01:46] <chucklarge> ikonia: ok, that makes sense, uh,
[01:46] <chucklarge> ikonia: headless box
[01:46] <coz_> GTAXL,  let me check something,, I know this has happened to some hold on
[01:46] <ikonia> chucklarge: what has that got to do with it?
[01:46] <chucklarge> oh, i thought it was some gui, sorry
[01:47] <frawst> Help Please : What program is the easiest to boot up a windows program through ubuntu? Is it possible to convert a desktop workspace into my Win7 enviro or something of the like?
[01:47] <ikonia> frawst: no
[01:47] <ikonia> !wine > frawst
[01:47] <ikonia> !appdb > frawst
[01:47] <chucklarge> ikonia: thanks i'll check it out
[01:47] <th0r> frawst: wine can run some windows programs, and I have windows7 installed in virtualbox but it does run rather slow
[01:47] <frawst> ubottu : Thanks very much
[01:48] <frawst> th0r : Thanks for the asst.
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL,  out of curiosity,, which video card do yo u have there?
[01:48] <frawst> << Linux noob
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL,   open a terminal      lspci | grep -i vga
[01:48] <GTAXL> It's a Virtual Box machine
[01:48] <coz_> GTAXL, ah  ok thats  probably why  hold on
[01:49] <GTAXL> I have a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[01:50] <coz_> GTAXL,   read through this,,,  maybe it may help http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=41127
[01:51] <Galindar> hello all. I have been having the "out of range" monitor error since installing 11.04. I installed the startup-manager and the new driver from Aditional Drivers option. I then set the startup-manager to a setting that seems to be out of range for my monitor(1600x1200) although i was using 1920x1080. how do i change the settings in startup-manager so i can see my screen again?
[01:52] <dr_willis> Galindar:  just the bootmenu had the issue . desktop.works ?
[01:52] <zeppelin101_> is it possible to force a different aspect ratio onto your display adapter? (in my case it's intel integrated graphics)
[01:53] <WG1337> How to update autoconf to 2.67? ubuntu doesn't alow to go further then 2.65
[01:54] <Galindar> dr_willis: previous to me changing the settings in startup-manager yes. now desktop will not work when i hit enter at the first "out of range" error. it goes into a second "out of range" error upon the desktop loading. and i can not get to the grub. it gives same error.
[01:55] <dr_willis> Galindar:  i dont trust startup manager.. ;)  for the grub part. edit the /etc/default/grub and set it up to use a low res text menu screen. ( uncomment 1 line i think)
[01:55] <Galindar> i have been trying to burn a new ubuntu dvd but my InfraRecorder seems to act like it's burning but burn nothing to the dvd. I installed a brand new dvdrw i had laying around and same error still..
[01:55] <dr_willis> Galindar:  as for the x issue... not sure
[01:55] <player> Hi guys, I am having a ton of trouble installing ubuntu. For example, Ubuntu is not detecting the new partition I created. Also, it keeps giving me the error "No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[01:56] <Galindar> how do i edit grub when i can not see anything at any point other than "out of range"? lol i feel like pulling my hair out..
[01:57] <zeppelin101_> galindar: i dont think you're meant to edit grub by hand nowadays. i suggest you use an app like 'startup manager'
[01:58] <ratkinson> dr_willis: got it! thanks a lot man!
[01:58] <Explodingpiglets> test
[01:58] <Galindar> zeppelin101_: i used the startup-manager and set monitor to 1600x1200 but my monitor does not recognize it. when desktop loads i recieve the "out of range" error once again ;c(
[01:59] <M4d3L> ikonia: I just installed cacti standalone last version and it work like a charm now :)
[01:59] <zeppelin101_> Galindar: i'm actually working on resolution problems myself :/
[01:59] <ikonia> M4d3L: well done, it won't be supported here
[02:00] <Galindar> is there an option to set startup-manager to defaults?
[02:00] <M4d3L> I know. I was just asked if someone have updated it to last version using ubuntu package.
[02:00] <witeshark> 11.04 grub problems... anyone know the answer?
[02:00] <JoseP> witeshark: 11.04 screwed up my server
[02:00] <Galindar> i was using 1920x1080 in 10.10 with no problem. i just assumed my monitor recognized 1600x1200 but it doesnt and now im at a loss of what to do since i get no visuals of any kind. i can boot desktop from the first "out of range" error by hitting enter, but since monitor does not recognize 1600x1200 i get a second "out of range" when desktop loads.. ;c(
[02:00] <dr_willis> ratkinson:  all this time for a  3 line script? ;)
[02:01] <mcurran> what tools should one use for messing with usb wireless cards in ubuntu?  should it show up under ifconfig if the module is loaded properly?
[02:01] <edbian> wireshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=/
[02:01] <zeppelin101_> Galindar: no idea how to force it default, but .. you should always make backups of files like that!
[02:01] <mcurran> I'm trying to designate wlan1 to my belkin f7d1101v1/8192su/8712u module.
[02:01] <edbian> wireshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:01] <mcurran> can't get it to load up
[02:01] <ratkinson> dr_willis: i know wheres the start > programs > startup folder for ubuntu :)
[02:01] <dr_willis> Galindar:  live cd, and chroot in. edit grub configs first. then reboot to text mode and fix x
[02:02] <mcurran> different for each desktop, gnome, kde, unity, etc
[02:02] <mcurran> usually, /home/<username>/.config/autostart
[02:02] <pooltable> is there a way to print a page i print about 5 hours a go?
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark: you here?
[02:02] <witeshark> edyup
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark *** can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:02] <witeshark> edbian: yup
[02:02] <dr_willis> actually kde and gnome and lxde all use .confit/autostart now
[02:02] <edbian> witeshark: :)
[02:02] <mcurran> anyone help with wireless?
[02:03] <dr_willis> bbl
[02:03] <Galindar> dr_willis: any suggestions on a working iso burning software? InfraRecorder just seems to pretend it's burning something when in reality it's doing nothing..
[02:03] <Galindar> free'
[02:04] <Galindar> ty for the help dr_willis. once i get a dvd burnt i'll try what you suggested.
[02:05] <K-Rich> Hey all
[02:06] <edbian> witeshark: Strange problem btw.  I'm thinking perhaps the partitions on the drive are a bit confused.  CAn you open gparted?
[02:07] <witeshark> edbian: i can try
[02:08] <witeshark> rebooting live cd now
[02:08] <firmevato> lots of lucas's in here right now
[02:08] <edbian> witeshark: k
[02:09] <witeshark> edbian: is it worth it to try to burn an 11.04 or 10.10 cd on the other computer?
[02:10] <edbian> witeshark: I don't think that's the problem but if you wanna try it I'm up for it.  Did you run gparted?
[02:10] <Polah> Does medibuntu contain Bluray codecs?
[02:10] <witeshark> live cd still booting
[02:10] <witeshark> syntax?
[02:11] <edbian> witeshark: gparted is in system -> admin -> gparted
[02:11] <syntaxx> i have 4 monitor setup using ubuntu 10.04 but i am having problem it makes my system slow and sometimes hangs.. im running a nvidia quadro nvs 295 video card. any idea?
[02:12] <Galindar> woot burnt dvd.. be back in a few
[02:12] <zeppelin101_> hey is it possible to 'reset' the wired network settings? i was messing with spoofing mac addresses and disabling network connections, and now, only the wifi works
[02:12] <witeshark> edbian: okay it's opne
[02:13] <edbian> witeshark: What does it think about things?  Any immediate errors about the sectors / partitions / mbr being messed up?
[02:13] <lucas_> ¿alguno que hable español?
[02:13] <edbian> witeshark: Do any of the partitions in the list on the bottom half have warning !'s or orange triangles or red circles?
[02:13] <rww> !es | lucas_
[02:13] <lucas_> ok gracias
[02:13] <witeshark> edbian: all looks good
[02:14] <edbian> witeshark: mmm, strange
[02:14] <K-Rich> funny, after dealing with my computer getting sluggish with flash in firefox, i said screw it and tried chrome and their flash linked across the system, and nvidia 173 driver, smooth as silk now even full screen
[02:14] <K-Rich> geforce 7300 go
[02:14] <syntaxx> i have 4 monitor setup using ubuntu 10.04 but i am having problem it makes my system slow and sometimes hangs.. im running a nvidia quadro nvs 295 video card. any idea?
[02:15] <lucas_> help whit videos
[02:15] <lucas_> when i play video
[02:16] <lucas_> whit mplayer
[02:16] <lucas_> Ubuntu 11.10 restart
[02:16] <edbian> witeshark *** can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:16] <lucas_> edbian
[02:17] <lucas_> do you install grub4dos?
[02:18] <nufced> is there a way to set defualt geometry and postion in terminal profiles?
[02:19] <zeppelin101_> nufced: you can set the default size of the terminal in the profile settings for terminal
[02:19] <lucas_> MARK SHUTTLEWORK IS ONLINE!!!
[02:20] <Fishscene> Greetings. I'm trying to log into Ubuntu 11.04. When I log in, the screen drops to a terminal saying something with the lines "spurious respons..." and dumps me back to the login screen. What should I do to diagnose/resolve this?
[02:20] <ikonia> lucas_: please don't
[02:20] <zeppelin101_> ikonia: what i was going to say..
[02:20] <ikonia> !topic > lucas_
[02:20] <zeppelin101_> lucas_: tone it down...
[02:20] <ikonia> !guidelines > lucas_
[02:21] <nufced> zepplin101: would that be in the custom command field?
[02:21] <witeshark> edbian: should we run update-grub after the install?
[02:21] <Fishscene> wait. nvm.
[02:22] <zeppelin101_> nufced: go to EDIT->Profile Preferences and check 'use custom default terminal size' box
[02:22] <zeppelin101_> (edit submenu when terminal is the active window)
[02:22] <lucas_> bot
[02:23] <ikonia> lucas_: ?
[02:23] <lucas_> que pasa ikonia
[02:23] <lucas_> ¿some problem?
[02:23] <ikonia> lucas_: what language do you speak ?
[02:23] <lucas_> I can help
[02:23] <lucas_> i speack spanish
[02:23] <ikonia> !es | lucas_
[02:24] <Infernet> jajaja
[02:24] <lucas_> infernet
[02:24] <Infernet> lucas_: entra aca #ubuntu-es
[02:24] <lucas_> como andas?
[02:24] <Infernet> bien
[02:26] <witeshark> edbian: i think i'll try what's here http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/
[02:27] <nufced> zepplin101: im not seeing a option box relating to the terminal size
[02:28] <zeppelin101_> nufced: do you have ubuntu 11.04?
[02:28] <singingBird> zeppelin101_, i have ubuntu 11
[02:28] <nufced> zepplin101: using 10.04, sorry i shoulda mentioned that
[02:29] <singingBird> is it your fresh install?
[02:29] <nit-wit> witeshark, did you guys run the bootscript/
[02:29] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to diagnose logon issues? AKA checking logs in realtime to see what is happening when a user logs in?
[02:29] <zeppelin101_> nufced: ok, so that's why its different for us. I'm guessing you can just right click on the top of the terminal window and maybe see what options are available
[02:29] <witeshark> nit-wit: which one?
[02:30] <nufced> well i dont have any options in my preference screen, i figured maybe there was some sorta script i could run to alter it
[02:30] <nit-wit> witeshark, http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/  if you like run it with a live cd or from a linux setup, and pastebin it
[02:31] <edbian> nit-wit: we did not
[02:31] <zeppelin101_> nufced: I really don't know how it is in 10.04, but i'm sure it's easy to find (you're just overlooking it somehow)
[02:31] <edbian> witeshark: update-grub only works from the actual system, not from a liveCD unless you chroot (and some other junk).
[02:31] <nit-wit> edbian, I just logged on at the end of your guy's work so I was just checking. ;)
[02:31] <edbian> witeshark: the problem is the install-grub isn't writing the MBR
[02:31] <edbian> nit-wit: sure :)
[02:31] <zeppelin101_> anyone know how to.. 'fix' eth0?
[02:32] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark can't install grub to /dev/sda  He mounted his root in /mnt and we ran sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda  but dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr   and then file ~/mbr does not show 'GRand Unified Bootloader' for some reason. Help?  Ideas?
[02:32] <nufced> i tried running a "--geomtery=" script, but i wasnt havin any luck
[02:32] <zeppelin101_> it stopped working for me.. as a consequence i can only use wifi at the moment. I just always get a disconnected message
[02:32] <uRock> anyone ever noticed how you can torrent at the speed of the ISP, but sharing files from one Ubuntu machine to another refuses go more than 1.5MB/s?
[02:33] <nit-wit> edbian, could be a mixed grub=grub-legacy and grub2 hard to tell, the script will tell us a lot, so my default is to run the script.
[02:33] <edbian> nit-wit: sounds like you know more than I do :)
[02:33] <lwp> Hello, I'm using wubi with win 7. It worked fine for a while but now it goes to the grub> command line when I try to start Ubuntu. If I choose Windows it starts just fine.
[02:34] <edbian> uRock: You're limited by the read / write of the hdd
[02:34] <edbian> uRock: among other things, torrent is reading from multiple hdds at the same time so it is faster
[02:34] <nit-wit> edbian, I wouldn't say that per-say but I rather not guess, in boot problems. ;)
[02:34] <edbian> nit-wit: awesome
[02:35] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you lke run the script, and pastebin it.
[02:35] <uRock> edbian, I would think they could read faster, since the do both faster when copying to and from USBs
[02:35] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to diagnose logon issues? AKA checking logs in realtime to see what is happening when a user logs in?
[02:35] <nit-wit> lwp, you need to reload the MS bootloader to the mbr do you have a recovery or installdisc?
[02:36] <edbian> uRock: hdds are much slower than usb drives.  usb drives are equivalent to solid state hdds.
[02:36] <edbian> uRock: especially for reading random files
[02:37] <uRock> never noticed. I'll test the HDDs with Disk Utility when the current transfer is done. Thanks edbian
[02:38] <nit-wit> lwp, actually your allright as far s the MS boot there is a wubi megathread at the Ubuntu forums are you familiar with it?
[02:38] <edbian> uRock: Sure, I think there are some other things to consider for bittorrent but indeed. bt is very very fast.
[02:39] <dumbo88> edbian usb3 stats seem impressive
[02:39] <lwp> nit-wit, no I'm not, just getting started with Ubuntu
[02:39] <witeshark> nit-wit: the linux comouter is not on line - running live cd
[02:39] <edbian> dumbo88: I haven't really look into that.  usb3 has been talked about for like 5 years now
[02:40] <dumbo88> gotta check support before getting a new laptop, huh? :-)
[02:41] <nit-wit> witeshark, can you get the script and transfer it to it run it and transfer it back to what your talking to us with and pastebin it. Otherwise we are flailing around basically, beyond a full purge and reinstall of grub.
[02:41] <nit-wit> witeshark, are you stillchrooted in?
[02:42] <witeshark> i'm at the 11.04 failed boot prompt
[02:43] <nit-wit> witeshark, your choice really if you boot a live cd and chroot in we can purge all of grub, and reinstall it if you like, I'm not real familiar with chrooting I just load this with the live cd or use supergrub2 to get in myself.
[02:45] <nit-wit> witeshark, I didn't see all you have tried did you guys just try reloading grub without the chroot to begin with from a Natty live cd.
[02:45] <witeshark> i don't have a natty live cd
[02:45] <witeshark> i upgrade from update manager
[02:46] <edbian> nit-wit: we mounted his root partiton (with grub on it in /mnt)
[02:46] <dumbo88> Can a wubi install move NTFS "immoveable" sections?
[02:46] <edbian> nit-wit: then we installed grub (sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda)
[02:46] <nit-wit> edbian, thaks. ;)
[02:46] <edbian> Then we used dd to check the mbr (dd if=/dev/sda of=~/mbr bs=512 count=1)
[02:47] <edbian> nit-wit: and file ~/mbr doesn't have 'GRand Unified Bootloader' in it, just some nonsense about sectors and stuff.  He can tell you in more detail.  The file ~/mbr is probably still there on his machine.
[02:47] <nit-wit> edbian, thanks for that info. ;)
[02:47] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark I'm not sure he remembers / understands completely ;)
[02:48] <witeshark> this is my second MBR - Grub fix mission
[02:48] <edbian> hahahah
[02:48] <edbian> :)
[02:48] <kholerabbi> does anyone know how I can get the Ubuntu Monospace font?
[02:49] <witeshark> edbian: why cant i get something going here? http://aaron-kelley.net/blog/2011/04/grub-prompt-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04/
[02:49] <edbian> witeshark: I don't know exactly.
[02:49] <nit-wit> witeshark, so I have given you several options, the bootscript is best it will tell us exactly whats in the mbr and everywhere elae.
[02:49] <nit-wit> *elase
[02:49] <nit-wit> *else
[02:49] <edbian> *elease
[02:49] <lwp> nit-wit: in the forums but can't find the wubi=specific megathread, can you give me a url?
[02:50] <edbian> *esle
[02:50] <nit-wit> lwp, hold on
[02:50] <witeshark> nit-wit: the affected computer has no internet
[02:50] <nit-wit> lwp, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[02:50] <witeshark> edbian: what values for x,y and z work in that link?
[02:51] <edbian> witeshark: What link?
[02:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, right and I made a suggestion did you see it?
[02:51] <witeshark> nit-wit: yes
[02:51] <edbian> witeshark: oh, the one you just gave me!!  reading...
[02:51] <witeshark> edbian: ok
[02:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, can you get creative and get the script posted, really otherwise we are wasting our time here.
[02:52] <edbian> witeshark: for you X = 0, Y = 2 and Z = 3
[02:52] <witeshark> edbian: ok thanks
[02:52] <nit-wit> witeshark, you don't fix your car with a rag but a wrench the bootscipt is the wrench.
[02:53] <edbian> witeshark: sure, are you at that prompt
[02:53] <nit-wit> just a analogy to get this across.
[02:54] <nit-wit> edbian, get him in and purge grub grub-common grub-pc and reinstall the last twoo commands
[02:54] <JoeR1> I got an error on an autogen and it seems to indicate that I need to install GTK but I can't figure out the right file name for apt-get
[02:54] <nit-wit> common and pc
[02:54] <edbian> nit-wit: he's using a live CD to install grub.  Do you mean grub on the target system?
[02:54] <witeshark> edbian: almost - error unknown filesystem
[02:55] <edbian> witeshark: what gave that error?
[02:55] <nit-wit> edbian, yes without the script i would purge it all and reinstall grub2
[02:55] <AHMEDELKING> I`m Using a NeW LoKaa sCrIpT
[02:55] <witeshark> the grub prompt after those commands
[02:55] <JoeR1> Any suggestions?
[02:56] <edbian> nit-wit: How do you suggest we boot?
[02:56] <edbian> witeshark: with my values for the variables?
[02:56] <witeshark> edbian: yes
[02:56] <Fishscene> When I log in, I'm immediately dumped back to the login screen. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop edition. Does anyone know what to do?
[02:56] <edbian> witeshark: Do you know if these are ext3 or ext4 partitions?
[02:56] <nit-wit> edbian, here is a link that is more explanatory of the options. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[02:57] <edbian> nit-wit: Besides, what difference does the packages make on the target system?   I'm beginning to think it might be best to scrape wubi and do a true dual-boot install. To get my machine back to where it was, all I need to do is uninstall wubi, is that correct?
[02:57] <edbian> witeshark: Agreed, this is what version?
[02:57] <nit-wit> lwp, yes it is in add remone or uninstall in W7 in the admin account
[02:57] <HHH> I`m Using a NeW LoKaa sCrIpT
[02:58] <witeshark> edbian:  version?
[02:58] <nit-wit> edbian, I think you are dealing with user error to be honest.
[02:58] <edbian> witeshark: of ubuntu, what version of ubuntu is the install
[02:58] <lwp> nit-wit: thanks, I appreciate your help. Have a good evening.
[02:59] <edbian> nit-wit: perhaps...
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: all this started after 11.04 upgrade from update manager
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <HHH> F
[02:59] <edbian> witeshark: a-ha!  very telling
[02:59] <FloodBot1> HHH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <nit-wit> edbian, not yours, a cognizant person would figure out how to get that script posted.
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: all i did was wait and try to reboot after download
[02:59] <edbian> nit-wit: I'm starting to agree that this is a grub vs grub2 issue
[02:59] <witeshark> nit-wit: the affected computer HAS no internet
[03:00] <witeshark> i posted that already
[03:00] <nit-wit> witeshark, the script and generated file from it are like 5 MB
[03:00] <nit-wit> witeshark, use a thumb or cd to transfer them.
[03:01] <edbian> I have to go unfortunately
[03:01] <Squirrel> Hello
[03:01] <witeshark> i'm typing here on a seperate computer
[03:01] <nit-wit> edbian, se yah . ;)
[03:01] <edbian> nit-wit: witeshark good luck!
[03:01] <JoeR1> what command should I use to install GTK 2.0? is it canonical?
[03:01] <nit-wit> witeshark, the other computer is with you there though correcty/
[03:02] <Guest20385> exit
[03:02] <Derpadong> Ive got a question. If youve got swap on another hard drive, could you switch out the hard drive and make a new swap?
[03:02] <JoeR1> what command should I use to install GTK 2.0? is it canonical?
[03:02] <witeshark> nit-wit: well the linux with the issue doesnt have that app on it
[03:02] <nit-wit> Derpadong, yes
[03:03] <Derpadong> nit-wit, its been awhile
[03:03] <Derpadong> Lol
[03:03] <Derpadong> Since we talked
[03:03] <Derpadong> I asked that question cause Im going to take my harddrive Im using atm for swap and put it back in its original area
[03:03] <nit-wit> witeshark, I have given you no app, but a script to download then a command in the terminal, you would take the generated text file from that and post it.
[03:04] <nit-wit> Derpadong, no doubt you can have a swap anywhere just set the fstab
[03:04] <Steve___> Hi, I've a ubuntu where ssh is limited by IP addresses. Unfortunately sometimes I need to access it while I'm on some dynamic IP. Is there a way to remotely authorize/maintain my dynamic ip in IPTABLES?
[03:04] <witeshark> nit-wit: so i download to a mac burn it to cd and it will work on the linux pc?
[03:04] <Derpadong> Thanks for the help nit-wit
[03:04] <Derpadong> Ill be back in a bit lol
[03:05] <JoeR1> what apt-get name should I use to install GTK 2.0?
[03:06] <JoeR1> is anyone helpful out there right now?
[03:07] <nit-wit> witeshark, your asking to mucj=h here we can't completely hold your hand some things you have to figure out. At least I can't this has gone past my patience level, sorry. ;(
[03:07] <fission6> where should i install not package mainted installations too? is there a recommendation? i am going to install komodo IDE and not sure where is best
[03:07] <mcurran> anyone know the benefits of increasing txpower to your wireless card?
[03:07] <Steve___> Alternatively is there a way to limit SSH connections by IP for non public/private key connections and accept all IPs with keys?
[03:08] <witeshark> nit-wit: you don't seem to get that i can't download sourceforge to the linux box - it's on live cd only
[03:08] <fission6> any folder recs?
[03:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, I get the hole scenario, don't worry, do this get a Natty cd and follow this link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1581099
[03:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you want to chroot in, you can use any ubuntu live cd.
[03:10] <Fishscene> Does anyone know how to resolve a login issue? I type username/password, and I'm dumped back to the login screen. I can not log in. Using Ubuntu 11.04
[03:11] <fission6> i feel this is a simple question
[03:11] <witeshark> nit-wit: i have 9.10 live cd
[03:12] <seclm193> hello everyone
[03:12] <Fishscene> Hi
[03:12] <nit-wit> witeshark, I will say this once not having a natty cd is bad protocol, if you did you would have been fixed ling ago., the9'10 may work but I will do no more than give that link.
[03:12] <mknarr> Hi
[03:13] <nit-wit> witeshark, the 9.10 is only good for chrooting in.
[03:13] <witeshark> nit-wit: should i burn an 11.04 to the mac and boot off that?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> !v4l
[03:13] <fission6> what path do you gusy tend to install downloaded installation too?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> !video4linux
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> anyone here know anything about video4linux ?
[03:13] <ubuntunoob> I have a HP webcam 101 and nothing seems to get it to work
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> using Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[03:14] <mknarr> do u have the webcam drivers installed ?
[03:14] <nit-wit> witeshark, post a thre.ad at the ubuntu forums
[03:14] <mknarr> if they were not allready installed
[03:14] <ubuntunoob> mknarr, not sure which drivers are they ?
[03:14] <witeshark> nit-wit: i have post in an existing thread
[03:14] <faint545> is there a way to restore a clonezilla backup image from inside ubuntu? without having to boot to clonezilla?
[03:15] <ubuntunoob> there is nothing in my "hardware drivers" program.. mknarr
[03:15] <seclm193> if the wubi installation has an error, does that mean theres a problem with the cd burn/
[03:15] <seclm193> ?
[03:15] <nit-wit> witeshark, never do that start your own the people who help, don't like piggybacking .
[03:15] <witeshark> nit-wit: okay
[03:15] <todd_> anyone know why navigation panel on top of screen is missing?
[03:16] <mknarr> ubuntunoob,  look up the model of your laptop and try and find the driver from the manufactures suport site they should have linux versions
[03:16] <nit-wit> seclm193, could mean anything when and where is the error?
[03:16] <nit-wit> seclm193, and what is the error
[03:16] <seclm193> nit-wit, inside windows 7 64bit, tried to install and it said Permission access error
[03:16] <ubuntunoob> ty mknarr
[03:16] <LinuxMan> does anybody know of any good games you can get in ubuntu?
[03:16] <mknarr> ubuntunoob,  np
[03:16] <nit-wit> witeshark, they will get you fixed I used to be on that forum specializing in this area.
[03:17] <nit-wit> seclm193, have you checked the md5sum?
[03:17] <witeshark> nit-wit: ima go ahead and burn a cd on the mac - i have so many
[03:18] <seclm193> nit-wit, i did.  it came out fine.  i'm having so much trouble with ubuntu and this laptop
[03:18] <mknarr> LinuxMan, you can get pretty much any game working in linux using WINE, the question is dose it workj well?
[03:18] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool burn the natty I will be here for awhile we can try a straight from the live cd reload of grub if you like.
[03:18] <nit-wit> seclm193, have you tried to just boot the disc?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> it seems to me that the volume has been dramatically lowered lately. Even if I run the master volume up to 150% with all other volume controls to max, it's very low. Can this be software, or what?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> I've never experienced anything like this ever before.
[03:19] <nit-wit> seclm193, are you doing this from the admin account?
[03:19] <todd_> can someone help me with problem?
[03:19] <jo-erlend> todd_impossible to tell unless you ask a question.
[03:20] <seclm193> nit-wit, because after something, my ubuntu install just starts freezing while loading xorg, so i decided a wubi install so i can see whats going on better
[03:20] <e-frame> LinuxMan: angry birds & angry birds rio works with wine ^_^
[03:20] <nit-wit> todd_, are you in the unity or classic desktop?
[03:20] <seclm193> nit-wit, i only have one account
[03:20] <todd_> nit, don't know
[03:21] <nit-wit> seclm193, so as I read you installed Ubuntu once but it froze at X basically is this correct?
[03:21] <nit-wit> seclm193, a dual bot not wubi install.
[03:21] <nit-wit> *boot
[03:21] <jo-erlend> todd_you you have a panel at the bottom of your screen?
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, correct
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, so i'm trying a wubi so i can try to find what is the problem.
[03:22] <witeshark> nit-wit: okay the download is near done
[03:22] <nit-wit> seclm193, do you know the graphic card on the computer?
[03:22] <todd_> nit, no bottom and no top
[03:22] <seclm193> nit-wit, radeon hd 6250
[03:22] <nit-wit> todd_, did you undertand my question?
[03:22] <jo-erlend> todd_, have you logged out and back in?
[03:23] <todd_> jo, yet multiple times
[03:23] <nit-wit> seclm193, that is a older card did you try any low graphic boot ins, the key word here is nomodeset?
[03:23] <todd_> yes
[03:23] <jo-erlend> todd_, do you use normal Ubuntu?
[03:23] <nit-wit> todd_, you didn't tell me which dektop it is.
[03:23] <nit-wit> *desktop
[03:24] <todd_> it used to work file until installed 10
[03:24] <nit-wit> todd_, ?
[03:24] <seclm193> nit-wit, brb
[03:25] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool boot up the natty I will give you some commands.
[03:25] <todd_> my keyboard has many blank keys
[03:25] <theadmin> nit-wit: I suppose what todd_ means is that her/his Ubuntu setup used to work fine until an upgrade to 10.x
[03:25] <nit-wit> witeshark, when its downloaded and burned of course
[03:25] <nit-wit> theadmin, I think your right. ;)
[03:25] <todd_> theadmin, correct
[03:26] <jo-erlend> todd_, installed ten what? If you're talking about a version of Ubuntu, there is always two versions a year, so ten doesn't mean much, except it was released in 2010.
[03:26] <nit-wit> todd_, can you tell us which dektop you not seeing, if you don't know it's not a big deal we afre just trying to communicate.
[03:26] <todd_> 10.10
[03:27] <nit-wit> todd_, this was a upgrade .
[03:27] <todd_> I can Alt-F1 but only get a partial menu
[03:28] <todd_> yes, it was forced on me
[03:28] <maheanuu__> I just downloaded and installed 11.04 for my grandson...   How do you find anything there????  I cannot find anything like the old style..   dunno about the new stuff, don't really make sense so far
[03:28] <jo-erlend> todd_, can you please press alt+f2. That will bring up a dialog. Enter "gnome-terminal". In the window that appears, enter "metacity --replace". See if that helps?
[03:28] <nit-wit> todd_, so you have upgraded, and never seen the regular desktop?
[03:29] <theadmin> todd_: If you want to log in to Gnome rather than Unity, select 'Ubuntu Classic' at the login screen in the session menu.
[03:29] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, on the left side, you have a launcher. One of the tiles is called Applications. If you right-click it, then you get a category of programs. You can display that list of categories in the dash as well, if you click in the upper-left corner.
[03:29] <Fishscene> If I log on to Ubuntu and it fails, where can I see the error logged?
[03:30] <nit-wit> maheanuu, the applications button is in the left panel litle box with the + in it.
[03:30] <Fishscene> or where is the error logged to?
[03:30] <LinuxMan> Why isn't minecraft.jar opening?
[03:30] <Fishscene> LinuxMan: Make sure you are using the Sun Java interpreter.
[03:30] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, you can press super (the one with windows icon) to bring it up and you can type a part of the name, if you want to.
[03:30] <todd_> after the upgrade, i lost my old desktop
[03:30] <LinuxMan> im using java runtime
[03:31] <maheanuu__> Ok, so far the eye candy is superb, I just have been using 10.10 on my machine and didn't realize that they were like night and day
[03:31] <Fishscene> From Sun Microsystems?
[03:31] <nit-wit> todd_, can you hit crtl-alt-t and get a teraminal.
[03:31] <Fishscene> LinuxMan: Check out the Linux instructions here: http://www.minecraft.net/download.jsp
[03:32] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, the new user interface is very much faster to work with. Try holding down super. The launcher appears and you see numbers over them. If you hold super and press one of those numbers, you will switch to that application if it's running or launch it if it isn't.
[03:33] <maheanuu__> Ok, and is there a noob manual for us handicapped old farts?
[03:33] <todd_> did metacity --replace. screen flashed a few time then nothing happened
[03:33] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, also, it remembers which files and applications you use most frequently and makes them easier to find. That's going to improve radically in the near future.
[03:33] <jo-erlend> maheanuu, yes, on http://help.ubuntu.com :)
[03:33] <maheanuu__> jo-erlend that wuz fer U
[03:33] <prezident> can any one tell me how to update my ubuntu kernel which is(2.6.35-28-generic-pae) every time i tried to upgrade it freezes my dell xps at start up is there a real fix for this problem?
[03:33] <Fishscene> Does any one of the 1400 people here have any idea how to diagnose and possibly resolve a login problem?
[03:34] <JoeR1> what login problem?
[03:34] <nit-wit> prezident, which ubuntu distro is that?
[03:34] <Barzogh> Fishscene: a password problem?
[03:34] <seclm193> nit-wit, i'm back.  ubuntu will boot in failsafex, but it seems to me that it's a problem with the device drivers
[03:34] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, can't you try to ask and see?
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[03:34] <Fishscene> JoeR1: When I log in, it drops to a full-screen terminal saying something about "spurious error" and then drops me immediately back to the login screen.
[03:34] <oihjem> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg - PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN. TEENAGERS AND YOUNG BOYS BEWARE!  PLEASE JOIN #COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    oi
[03:35] <nit-wit> seclm193, failsafe is low graphics, I believe are you at the deaktop?
[03:35] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: I've been asking for the past 1.25 hours :P
[03:35] <nit-wit> *desktop
[03:35] <seclm193> nit-wit, well. i had ubuntu as the dominent system, so i'm on a fesh windows install now
[03:36] <nit-wit> seclm193, this is a wubi install right, and you got somewhere with thef ?ailsafe
[03:36] <nit-wit> *the failsafe?
[03:37] <JoeR1> So again I ask who feels like helping me with my configure issue?
[03:37] <faint545> does anyone know how to fix a partclone crc error?
[03:37] <seclm193> nit-wit, well, i got tired of having to go into the restore kernel and choose low-graphic mode.
[03:37] <Fishscene> JoeR1: What was the issue again?
[03:37] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, try to provide a little more information? "Fails" is a very poor description.
[03:38] <JoeR1> No package 'alsa' found
[03:38] <JoeR1> which is odd since I have about a billion freaking asla packages installed
[03:38] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, if it's because of invalid credentials or similar, then /var/log/auth.log might be helpful.
[03:38] <Fishscene> When I log in,the screen goes black to a full-screen terminal saying something about "spurious error" and then drops me immediately back to the login screen.
[03:38] <Fishscene> Let me grab that output
[03:39] <nit-wit> seclm193, you have to until you get the driver for the graphic card installed, my question is can you or have you gotten to the desktop with the failsafe or the nomodeset in the kernel line at the grub menu?   please be careful not to go tanmgental here .
[03:39] <nit-wit> *tangential
[03:39] <prezident> does anyone know how to fix that problem ?
[03:39] <Fishscene> jo-erland: http://pastebin.com/7SLM0uAY
[03:39] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, ok. Is this only for one user or does it happen with all users?
[03:39] <Fishscene> The username/password are correct.
[03:40] <nit-wit> prezident, I asked you a question did you miss it?
[03:40] <seclm193> nit-wit, nomodeset?
[03:40] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: all users. (there's only 2)
[03:40] <prezident> no i answered you Ubuntu 11.04
[03:40] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, are you using 11.04 and if so, have you tried using the classical ubuntu with no effects?
[03:41] <nit-wit> seclm193, nomodeset is a lowgraphics command added to the kernel line at the grub menu.
[03:41] <prezident> nit-wit ubuntu 11.04
[03:41] <nit-wit> seclm193, can you get to the dektop at all ?
[03:41] <faint545> can someone help me? i need to recover a partclone back up really badly but it keeps giving me a crc error... no errors occured when i was doing the backup
[03:41] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, it sounds like the login is fine but that there is something wrong with the window system.
[03:41] <Fishscene> jo-erlend: I'm using Ubuntu 11.04. I have 2 session choices "Default" and "Failsafe xterm". Both yield the same result
[03:41] <seclm193> nit-wit, in failsafe mode i found that i cannot set the resolution to what the monitor can do
[03:42] <tester_tomas> !edgy
[03:42] <tester_tomas> !eol
[03:42] <nit-wit> seclm193, that is because you need a driver for the card get to the desktop with the failsafe and run a update.
[03:42] <nit-wit> prezident, was thos a upgrade?
[03:43] <Fishscene> I'm trying to find the logfile that is storing the logs I'm seeing on the screen when it drops me to a terminal window. Something about "spurious response". Is there a way to search ALL the log files for that phrase?
[03:43] <jo-erlend> Fishscene, try asking on askubuntu.com. I haven't heard of anything like that before.
[03:43] <biglinux> g
[03:43] <Fishscene> ok. Thanks
[03:43] <nit-wit> prezident, that kernel is from like karmic and for more then 4 gigs ram.
[03:43] <witeshark> nit-wit: cd burning now
[03:43] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool
[03:43] <robin0800> Fishscene, you should have unity and classic options as well
[03:43] <prezident> and i have 4-gigs
[03:43] <seclm193> nit-wit, let me add this.  I found that i had trouble with this problem after installing virtualboxose.  can this be related?
[03:44] <Fishscene> robin0800: I'm unsure as this is on a PXE client. So those might not be in the ltsp image.
[03:44] <nit-wit> seclm193, well hard to say did yo9u install dkms?
[03:44] <chocolates> 11.04 good yet??
[03:44] <nit-wit> okay
[03:44] <prezident> nit-wit i have 4 gigs i don't think i should be stuck on this kernel 2.6.35-28-generic-pae
[03:44] <Fishscene> 11.04 = the best Ubuntu yet!
[03:44] <robin0800> Fishscene, is this a new install?
[03:45] <seclm193> nit-wit, what is dkms?
[03:45] <yokobr666> hi guys
[03:45] <nit-wit> prezident, did you upgrade to natty, when you do the pae kernels I doubt automatically upgrade to the next set.
[03:45] <Fishscene> robin0800: Not really. Although I've tried uninstalling/re-installing ltsp as well as rebuilding the image several times.
[03:45] <Ibyss> I did a fresh ubuntu (server) natty install remotely, how do I fix this? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=HVxxnLt1
[03:46] <robin0800> Fishscene, can you do ctl+alt+f1
[03:46] <todd_> how to filter this list?
[03:46] <nit-wit> seclm193, dkms is what allows kenerl updates that don't make you reinstall the guest extras for Vbox amongst a few other thngs
[03:46] <prezident> nit-wit i have ubuntu 11.04(natty) and then i upgrade the kernel but when i log in it freezes..
[03:46] <Fishscene> robin0800: Yes.
[03:46] <Ibyss> Lol @ nit-wit.
[03:46] <Fishscene> I'm seeing those Spurious responses...
[03:46] <witeshark> nit-wit: i suppose i may as well install from the CD after  verifying by booting
[03:47] <seclm193> nit-wit, all i did was open the software center, search for virtualbox, and install
[03:47] <Fishscene> There seems to be a new entry every few seconds
[03:47] <robin0800> Fishscene, can you log in and have internet connection
[03:47] <prezident>  nit-wit i have ubuntu 11.04(natty) and when i upgraded the kernel and try to log in it freezes at start up
[03:47] <nit-wit> seclm193, you always want to install dkms with Vbox.
[03:47] <Fishscene> I can not log in. It says login incorrect.. I'm perplexed
[03:47] <ihqo23> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg ! PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX.  PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX.  PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX.  PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX.  PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    AKINA
[03:47] <ihqo23> http://www.gentoo.org/images/gwn/20050606_kloeri.jpg ! PLEASE STOP ME BEFORE I MOLEST AGAIN !  PLEASE JOIN ##COMMENT_ON_STAFF NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS MAN, OR IF HE HAS SOLICITED YOU FOR ANAL SEX. WE ARE COMPILING TESTIMONY FOR A CLASS ACTION SUIT AGAINST FREENODE FOR GIVING THIS SICK INDIVIDUAL A PLACE TO RECRUIT SEX SLAVES.    Lubun
[03:48] <Fishscene> robin0800: It seems I am unable to log in- despite the fact that I'm typing in my username/password correctly. It says the login is incorrect.
[03:48] <seclm193> nit-wit, so that could be the cause of why it kept freezing after i installed vbox?
[03:48] <Ibyss> O_________________O Wow
[03:49] <nit-wit> prezident, all I noticed is that the kernel is or seems to be an older on, but I'm  not familiar with the pae's.
[03:49] <nit-wit> seclm193, doubt it.
[03:50] <nit-wit> seclm193, I hate to just guess here.
[03:50] <robin0800> Fishscene, if you reboot and hold shift you should get the grub menu if you do choose recovery
[03:50] <prezident> nit-wit i think generic-pae is kernels that work with 4gigs or more i just can't figure out why and update kernel can't boot
[03:50] <seclm193> nit-wit, man.  i really wish i could find the problem.  i love linux compared to windows
[03:50] <todd_> i guess my only solution is to reinstall
[03:50] <Fishscene> robin0800: I'm going to try rebuilding my ltsp image. I'll try what you asked after it finishes building.
[03:51] <witeshark> nit-wit: burn complete
[03:51] <nit-wit> prezident, sometime they don't the one before does right?
[03:51] <prezident> no the one i am running is a much older one
[03:51] <nit-wit> witeshark, you just going to install?
[03:51] <appi_uppi> Hi, I'm getting "ssh: connect to host srinivasakp.dyndns-web.com port 22: Connection timed out"
[03:51] <appi_uppi> how could i fix that
[03:52] <witeshark> nit-wit: after it boots okay, why mess around for days when i can just install?
[03:52] <nit-wit> prezident, to be honest kernels and there problems are out of my pay range, I'm not much help there.
[03:52] <nit-wit> witeshark, thats my motto. ;)
[03:52] <witeshark> :)
[03:53] <prezident> lol cool thanks nit-wit what do you work with in ubuntu ?
[03:53] <nit-wit> witeshark, I install and clone, that it is easy to just reload it if needed.
[03:53] <Ibyss> Does anyone get locale errors with ubuntu server, natty by any chance?
[03:53] <witeshark> nit-wit: neat :)
[03:53] <nit-wit> prezident, not sure I understand?
[03:53] <prezident> nit-wit i was asking you what do you do?
[03:54] <seclm193> nit-wit, if i do a fresh ubuntu install, what would you suggest i do with the graphic driver?
[03:54] <nit-wit> prezident, where?
[03:54] <theadmin> prezident: Most people here are not a part of Ubuntu team, and are just volunteers.
[03:54] <theadmin> nit-wit: she/he was wondering whether you work for Canonical afaiu
[03:55] <nit-wit> theadmin, I see I was invited to apply for membership but was  not really interested.
[03:55] <theadmin> nit-wit: Neat.
[03:55] <nit-wit> seclm193, it seems like a graphic card problem, just a guess on my part.
[03:56] <nit-wit> theadmin, I started on open source 4 years ago dapper was the name and never looked back I like it.
[03:56] <todd_> who is Ubuntu team?
[03:57] <theadmin> nit-wit: Well, I'm not a fan of Ubuntu myself
[03:57] <theadmin> todd_: You can google "Canonical". They are never here, I think.
[03:57] <nit-wit> theadmin, it has its up and downs lately i was using W7, and a slew of other open source.
[03:57] <Lasers> !ubuntu | todd_
[03:57] <seclm193> nit-wit, i was thinking the same problem, just not sure if the new kernel has something to do with it.
[03:58] <Lasers> todd_: You see? We're the team! (large community) :)
[03:58] <theadmin> nit-wit: Mind if I pm?
[03:58] <nit-wit> seclm193, were you able to boot the live cd staraight to the desktop
[03:58] <nit-wit> theadmin, no problem
[03:59] <robin0800> seclm193, there is no options to install any extra drives during an install as far as I know
[03:59] <shane2peru1> ok, where does FF5 now put flash videos?  used to be in /tmp, now they aren't there
[03:59] <todd_> i have been trying to get my panels back with no luck
[04:00] <Lasers> !resetpanels | todd_
[04:00] <seclm193> nit-wit, i can.
[04:00] <seclm193> robin0800, yourcorrect.
[04:01] <seclm193> nit-wit, also note that when it freezes, i cannot do anything. i cannot even move the mouse
[04:02] <nit-wit> seclm193, when you install sometimes the graphic drivers don't load, so you get in with a lowgrphic boot to get them.
[04:02] <Phibs> anyone know of an IpV6 enabled copy of ubuntu-security?
[04:02] <robin0800> seclm193, so in answer to your question is there is nothing you can do with the graphic driver
[04:02] <seclm193> nit-wit, but i can use the system for a couple of days before it starts freezing
[04:06] <seclm193> robin0800, it just happens suddenly.  i use the install for a couple of days, then freeze when xorg loads
[04:06] <S4nD3r> how solve it ? Valid eCryptfs headers not found in file header region or xattr region
[04:06] <witeshark> nit-wit: it offers to install alongside the corrupt 11.04 or over write - deleting nearly everything... what would you do? i have my home folder rsynced
[04:07] <robin0800> seclm193, thats from a fresh install?
[04:08] <rabbit1> no virtualbox for 9.10 ?
[04:09] <nit-wit> witeshark, if you have home backed up I would overwrite it and just put back your, docs, video,music,, but not resyncit back.
[04:10] <rabbit1> guys, help ... no virtualbox for 9.10 ?
[04:10] <Lasers> !9.10
[04:10] <JoeR1> I need help with libgtkhtml2-dev
[04:11] <witeshark> nit-wit: sounds like a plan much cleaner than picking around like last year's Thanksgiving dinner scraps over the next few months
[04:11] <buzzomatic> Hi guys. I've just been handled a new Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS server which I'm supposed to setup as a web server, but for some reason I can't install any software. Whenever I use apt, I get errors like this: http://pastie.org/2307268
[04:12] <nit-wit> witeshark, cool.
[04:12] <buzzomatic> Can anyone give me a clue as to what might be wrong?
[04:12] <JoeR1> I need help with a failed install of libgtkhtml2-dev
[04:15] <seclm193> robin0800, well, fresh install and updated.  i always try to keep everything updated.
[04:16] <cordoval> anyone is a master of xpath selectors here?
[04:16] <seclm193> robin0800, you think an update couldv'e broken something
[04:16] <cordoval> I need to find out if this https://github.com/Behat/Mink/blob/master/src/Behat/Mink/Selector/NamedSelector.php#L25
[04:16] <cordoval> will match a field with disabled="disabled"
[04:16] <cordoval> or how to modify the line 25 above to make it match a disabled="disabled"?
[04:16] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <robin0800> seclm193, 2 days seems like a timer thing something that happens every 48hrs?
[04:17] <rafaelpolanco> good evening
[04:18] <rafaelpolanco> somebody try to use magicjack in ubunto without VB
[04:18] <seclm193> robin0800, like i told nit-wit, i did install virtualbox from ubuntu software center before it happened.
[04:18] <Joeman1> buzzomatic,  only reference I found to your error is in this forum post. Last post looks like a fix. Hope this helps! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774502
[04:18] <dr_willis> rafaelpolanco:  it wont work in wine last i looked
[04:19] <dr_willis> !appdb | rafaelpolanco
[04:19] <rafaelpolanco> no because that use some drivers
[04:19] <JayPro> how can you tell if you have hardware-based raid or firmware/driver-based raid??
[04:19] <rafaelpolanco> ok thanks
[04:19] <JayPro> ...motherboard, that is
[04:19] <buzzomatic> Joeman1: thanks, will have a look
[04:20] <robin0800> seclm193, clearly updates and application additions can break the system but in a random way not on a regular basis
[04:21] <seclm193>  robin0800, it is sort of random.  it just takes a few days.  on one install it did it the same day i installed it
[04:21] <Guest20971> where should i go for general help with ubuntu, for relative noobs?
[04:21] <vuth> hey sergio
[04:22] <todd_> had to reboot
[04:22] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  depends on the help you can allways start here
[04:22] <todd_> keyboard stopped working after the command type at terminal
[04:22] <dibyam> hello, i have unbuntu 10.10 installed on my lenovo z569 laptop..i am not able to hear any sound when i connect my headfones..can anybody ples help
[04:22] <vuth> sergio was i in the wrong room for help questions?
[04:23] <rabbit1> got installed 10.04, it created a ubuntu live CD on harddisk, how do i remove it from the boot ?
[04:24] <dr_willis>  rabbit1  how did you install it?
[04:25] <robin0800> seclm193, virtualbox does steal some of the computer resources so if your computer only just runs ubuntu this addition could break it
[04:25] <Guest20971> dr_willis: ok, i'm trying to do this install thing from the guide here: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html
[04:26] <seclm193> robin0800, so running virtualbox in ubuntu is not really the best way?
[04:26] <todd_> the command ubotto gave removed my title bars and killed my keyboard
[04:26] <Guest20971> dr_willis: i followed the directions until the end, when it directs you to open a new terminal under the new user
[04:26] <rabbit1> dr_willis: First install XP on 50 GB NTFS, then inserted a CD done from .iso, but it wasn't booting from CD, so it gave me an option to create a virtual disk (may be) then install, not i get 2 boot option and when i select Win XP i get 2 more boot option 1. XP and 2. ubuntu (live CD) one..... now how do i remove this?
[04:26] <dibyam> no sound being played when i connect headfones
[04:26] <knoppix> hello
[04:26] <nigma> yo
[04:26] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  shall i point out that guide is 4 yrs old.  and may be really outdated
[04:26] <nigma> hehe
[04:26] <nigma> yeah
[04:27] <robin0800> seclm193, its ok as long as you have the resources to run it
[04:27] <Guest20971> it's mirrored on ubuntu's forums
[04:27] <nigma> type /help
[04:27] <dr_willis> its still old...
[04:27] <rabbit1> dr_willis: First install XP on 50 GB NTFS, then inserted a CD done from .iso, but it wasn't booting from CD, so it gave me an option to create a virtual disk (may be) then install, now i get 2 boot option and when i select Win XP i get 2 more boot option 1. XP and 2. ubuntu (live CD) one..... now how do i remove this?
[04:27] <seclm193> robin0800, running laptop with AMD C-50 processor, 6 gigs ram, and a Radeon HD 6250
[04:28] <Guest20971> dr_willis: ok, what do i do then?
[04:28] <seclm193> was running windows 7 32bit in virtualbox
[04:28] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  you never said what was not working that i saw..
[04:28] <kush> man, harrison ford is losing it on conan
[04:29] <Guest20971> dr_willis: oh sorry. the problem is that when i started a new gnome-terminal under the new user, it opened a new window but it didn't have any of the characteristics from compiz
[04:29] <yokobr666> plz, guys, how do i redo apache configs?
[04:29] <dr_willis> Guest20971:  you may want to select a better nick also. /nick pickanick
[04:30] <dibyam> how to enable headfones i ubuntu 10.10?
[04:30] <seclm193> robin0800, let me add that i had the same problem with linux mint 11
[04:30] <vuth> i am from mint 11
[04:31] <lukeccby> ahoy
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: it occurred to me that restarting compiz might be the answer, so i did 'compiz --replace' and that crashed my desktop
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: i managed to log out and back in, and everything's back to default
[04:31] <dr_willis> fasttab:  so your end goal is á transparent terminal?
[04:31] <fasttab> dr_willis: oui
[04:31] <vuth> what are u guys using for managing your softwares on ubuntu 11?
[04:32] <fasttab> dr_willis: also general learning to navigate ubuntu...
[04:32] <dr_willis> fasttab:  compiz can set transparancy on a per window basis
[04:32] <dr_willis> !ccsm
[04:33] <fasttab> ubottu: i have ccsm installed
[04:33] <vuth> bots dont have a soul
[04:33] <dr_willis>  theres some plugin you set where you use the wheel to change s windows transparancy on the fly.
[04:34] <robin0800> !soul
[04:35] <fasttab> dr_willis: ok, clarification. my end goal is not to have a transparent terminal, it's more to make my background an unkillable terminal
[04:35] <dr_willis> fasttab:  that guide seems straight forward. im nit sure what you meanby a new user
[04:35] <rabbit1> dr_willis: u there?
[04:36] <cappicard> jeez... freenode's ipv6 servers are flaky
[04:36] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  yes.
[04:36] <fasttab> dr_willis: a new terminal profile
[04:36] <rabbit1> dr_willis: read my previous msg?
[04:37] <fasttab> dr_willis: at the end of the guide it says open a new terminal window with the profile as the new terminal profile. i do that, but it doesn't open following the rules i've created with ccsm
[04:38] <rabbit1> dr_willis: you got a solution for this friend... ?
[04:38] <dr_willis> fasttab:  you make a new profile. then use it.. could be simthing has changed in gnome or compiz over the years theguide been out.
[04:39] <Mintal> hiya
[04:40] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  ive never seen a feature on a ubuntu cd to do a livecd install to the hd. wubi can do an install inside windiws but its not a livecd setuo
[04:40] <todd_> holy crap, my panels just appeared!
[04:40] <fasttab> dr_willis: right, i have made a new profile and open a terminal window under the new profile. it has the settings i've set in the terminal profile, but not the settings i've set in ccs
[04:40] <fasttab> m
[04:40] <dr_willis> fasttab:  i cant try the guide right now. so cant verify if it can work or not
[04:41] <fasttab> dr_willis: can you direct me to other help?
[04:41] <dr_willis> fasttab:  ive found the ccsm window rules plugin to be flakey in the past
[04:41] <dr_willis> theres #compiz
[04:42] <fasttab> dr_willis: ok, thanks. quick question, should i need to restart compiz for the changes to take effect? if i do have to restart, it requires a bunch more work because i have to figure out why it's crashing
[04:43] <dr_willis> no restart should be needed.
[04:43] <dr_willis> i bet thw title is wrong. ir getting changed somwhow
[04:44] <fasttab> ?
[04:46] <uRock> Does anyone have an example on how to use the split command how to break up an ISO into 2GB chunks?
[04:49] <eycel> "/usr/bin/split"
[04:50] <theadmin> uRock: split -b 2G file.iso
[04:50] <dr_willis> fasttab:  my terminals can change their titles depending o the app running in them. that would most likely break that trans setup.
[04:51] <uRock> thanks theadmin, will it ask what file name to create or do it automatically?
[04:51] <dr_willis> fasttab:  use some pulldown terminal app like guake. much easier then a root window terminal
[04:51] <theadmin> uRock: It will create files automatically, will call them "xaa", "xab", etc.
[04:52] <fasttab> dr_willis: thanks, but there's an option under terminal profile that says keep the original title and i have that set
[04:52] <fasttab> dr_willis: i don't know what guake is?
[04:52] <uRock> cool thanx theadmin
[04:57] <dr_willis> !info guake
[04:58] <rabbit1> dr_willis: yeah, right. it's not a livecd. wubi only, but now how can i remove that boot option ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> rabbit1:  uninstall the wubi installed  ubutu setup
[04:59] <rabbit1> dr_willis: ok, thank you
[04:59] <dr_willis> i dont use wubi at all. it should remove then entry when it gets uninstalled
[05:00] <dr_willis> wubi is icky. ;)
[05:02] <witeshark> dr_willis: so you're back
[05:02] <dr_willis> im in and out all day.
[05:03] <dr_willis> may have to leave aat any time
[05:05] <ck_> ck
[05:05] <ck_> #wordtracker
[05:05] <witeshark> dr_willis: well i fixed with a new install by CD iso
[05:05] <lapaga> it is not that important but thought I would ask...when watching an avi or such in parole or vlc the sound sort of disappears after a while unless I change it in the top panel thingy (xubuntu 11.04).
[05:06] <dr_willis> 'sort of' as in mutes? chage what in what thinggie? ;)
[05:07] <dr_willis> vlc works for me with no issues in my huge video collection.
[05:07] <Blade20> i love descriptive questions
[05:07] <lapaga> dr_willis: yes to mute and thinggie is the indicator  on the top panel
[05:08] <dr_willis> play 20 questions to get to the real question
[05:08] <Blade20> thinggie is the technical term i see
[05:08] <dr_willis> so sound is auto muteing after some set time? always the same time?
[05:08] <nit-wit> dr_willis, welcome to the matrix. ;)
[05:08] <Pingu> hello
[05:09] <faint545> is anyone familiar with clonezilla?
[05:09] <Pingu> I need some quick help with Samba on Lucid
[05:09] <nit-wit> faint545, somewhat
[05:09] <dr_willis> !ask
[05:10] <faint545> nit-wit, would u happen to know if its possible to skip CRC errors ?
[05:10] <Blade20> Pingu, what do you need to do with samba
[05:10] <dr_willis> more playing 20 questions to get to the real question
[05:10] <lapaga> dr_willis: no it is not a set time but it does always happen and by the way to others it was stated exactly as it happens ..just not positive what the sound indicator  icon to change the volume is called
[05:11] <dr_willis> lapaga:  'volume applet' i guess. ;)
[05:12] <Blade20> lapaga, if you click on it ... that would open it ... then you could tell what it is... try to right click... it should have a name
[05:13] <dr_willis> sound volume changine durig a movie. seems odd. also vlc would not chage the system volume. it has its own volume settings
[05:13] <Blade20> dr_willis, it could be a problem with the movie it's self...
[05:14] <Pingu> OK: I have installed Samba on Lucid Desktop. I have a hard disk mounted as vfat set to 0777 and gid 46 (plugdev). no matter what I do, the share shows up as read-only at the WinXP client machines. I tried using the gnome-settings-samba and editing the samba.conf. The used to be on a Win2K domain and now I have moved the to a WorkGroup with the same name.
[05:14] <lapaga> Blade20: right click does not give me a name or I would have mentioned it...I am guessing that it is either alsa or pulseaudio settings
[05:14] <dr_willis> Blade20:  it was said it does not happen at the same place. and it affects all movies..
[05:15] <nit-wit> faint545, whats the actual error.
[05:15] <lapaga> it is just going along with no problems and then all of a sudden there is no sound until I change the slider on the indicator and then it is back to being fine
[05:16] <lion42> I've been having issues with vlc audio as well, something which hasn't happened with earlier versions of ubuntu and persumably earlier versions of vlc
[05:16] <lion42> I just switched to a different player.
[05:16] <Blade20> Pingu, from the sounds of it you have made a few changes that may conflict ... if using the GUI delete all the settings you have ans start again ... work in small steps... using the GUI you really do not have many options ... just change one at a time to get the affect you are looking for
[05:16] <faint545> nit-wit, "read CRC error: No such file or directory, please check your image file."
[05:17] <faint545> nit-wit, that error was actually from PARTCLONE when I tried to restore the image
[05:18] <faint545> nit-wit, CloneZilla just gave me a CRC error.
[05:18] <Blade20> dr_willis, i understand that but i do not know of anything that could be doing that .... not software anyway... other than maybe a conflict of 2 programs running at the same time... controlling the same thing... not even sure if that could be it...
[05:18] <lapaga> dr_willis: Blade20 : like I said it is no big deal just curious as to why it happens and if there was some simple way to correct it
[05:18] <snarkster> how do you compile a kernel on a machine that wont run linux
[05:18] <nit-wit> faint545, are you sure the source is mounting?
[05:19] <Blade20> lapaga, are you running Jack.... and if you are have you made any changes to Jack...
[05:19] <faint545> nit-wit, what do u mean?
[05:19] <Pingu> Blade20: can you please be more specific? I have no problem with the CLI. Can you tell me what to write in the file for the share?
[05:19] <lapaga> Blade20: no idea what jack is:)
[05:20] <snarkster> hi this may be OT. how do you compile a kernel on a machine when linux doesnt run on it?
[05:20] <theadmin> snarkster: Cygwin, maybe, but I don't suggest you.
[05:20] <theadmin> snarkster: Or maybe a virtual machine with Linux
[05:20] <snarkster> um
[05:21] <nit-wit> faint545, when you use clonezilla you have it read the backup, it may be showing it, to choose it but not reading it, I have seen this when the partition I am installing back to is smaller then the origib=nal saved, for one example.
[05:21] <wols_> you will need a crosscompiler. cygwin isn't suitable for that (unless you create your toolchain for cygwin)
[05:21] <snarkster> i have a c3 processor.. linux fails to run
[05:21] <wols_> but a VM is easier
[05:21] <Blade20> Pingu, samba has a GUI that you can install that makes life easy ...
[05:21] <lapaga> snarkster: are you trying to get something to work so that is why you think you have to compile the kernel?
[05:21] <snarkster> ubuntu locks up when i try to boot it
[05:21] <snarkster> it wont even boot from live cd
[05:21] <wols_> snarkster: certain distros will fail since they need a newer CPU. possibly ubuntu among them. compiling a new kernel won't help there
[05:22] <Blade20> lapaga, Jack audio... a fun mess to play with... and to tell the truth i dont mess with it... cuz i dont know Jack lol
[05:22] <wols_> snarkster: try debian
[05:22] <wols_> or a distro made for older PCs like DSL or puppy
[05:22] <lapaga> Blade20: :) well I would put myself in that catagory
[05:23] <faint545> nit-wit, the disk i am restoring to is the same size as i started out with.
[05:23] <snarkster> right well that wont help me very much since Im trying to make a machine to run hulu desktop for my back bedroom tv
[05:23] <Blade20> wols_, arch is a light weight distro also if i understand it correctly
[05:24] <Blade20> lapaga, that is about the only one that i can think of that would change volume like that... what file format are the movies you are finding this problem with... and is it only movies?
[05:24] <nit-wit> faint545, really you might try the #clonezilla channel for expert help I can only really guess.
[05:24] <faint545> nit-wit, that channel is like a desert..
[05:25] <nit-wit> faint545, 8 users I guess so.
[05:25] <lapaga> Blade20: they are avi...wmv...mpg...etc
[05:25] <faint545> nit-wit, yeah and no one will answer my question
[05:25] <Blade20> lapaga, and no matter the file format you are still having this problem?
[05:26] <city2008> hello every here
[05:26] <dr_willis> sounds almost like a screensaver or aome tool kicking i
[05:26] <dr_willis> in
[05:26] <Mintal> hiyall
[05:26] <Blade20> lapaga, have you tried a different player such as Gnome Mplayer
[05:26] <lapaga> Blade20: yes...it is running fine...sound stops...I change the indicator volume all the way up and then back down and it works fine
[05:26] <Pingu> thanks
[05:27] <Blade20> dr_willis, may have a good point there lapaga have you tried to change your screen saver settings ...
[05:27] <Mintal> so you have been able to trick 1 million users into using ubuntu ?
[05:27] <lapaga> Blade20: dr_willis : screensaver is turned off
[05:28] <Blade20> lapaga, how about power management ?
[05:28] <lapaga> Blade20: that is turned off too
[05:28] <JoeR1> is anyone awake to offer help?
[05:28] <Blade20> lapaga, have you tried out other players...
[05:29] <Blade20> JoeR1, no
[05:29] <JoeR1> haha, obviously
[05:29] <nit-wit> faint545, one of the things I do with clonezilla image is I make them on one HD then I have a backup of that HD and that has worked if the first clone balks the second works not sure why though.
[05:29] <Blade20> JoeR1, lol
[05:29] <dr_willis> or other window manager/desktops
[05:29] <lapaga> Blade20: no have only tried vlc and parole
[05:29] <JoeR1> I have been having trouble with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:29] <Blade20> lapaga, give Gnome MPlayer a try...
[05:29] <JoeR1> I hate mplayer
[05:29] <lapaga> Blade20: is that a cli?
[05:30] <faint545> nit-wit, have u had any issues with using the default settings in clonezilla when backing up a NTFS partition?
[05:30] <wols_> lapaga: it has the word "gnome" in it...
[05:30] <lapaga> wols_: true:)
[05:30] <ror> hi, since my last update, ubuntu has turned... ugly. It's hard to explain: borders are different mostly I think
[05:30] <JoeR1> I need with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:30] <wols_> ror: no worries. we call that "Unity" ;)
[05:31] <JoeR1> I need help* with installing libgtkhtml2-dev
[05:31] <ror> wols_, no, I'm running classic
[05:31] <ror> this is just since the last update in the last week or so, it's baffling really
[05:31] <wols_> JoeR1: you need more help with writing english and to ask properly for help on irc me thinks...
[05:31] <lapaga> is it called mplayer or gnome-mplayer?
[05:31] <wols_> !info gnome-mplayer
[05:31] <ror> fonts seem different too; the fonts seem better but the borders and menus seem really ugly, and some icons have changed
[05:32] <wols_> lapaga: alternatively: smplayer
[05:32] <JoeR1> oh yeah me be stupid wols, I'm sorry that it is 12:31 here and I am tired but please do feel free to denigrate people for typos in the future because that is an effective way to make them feel welcome.
[05:32] <ror> Everything looks more "linuxy" though, it's like I've been transported back to my slackware days :O
[05:33] <Blade20> JoeR1, relax he was just poking fun... hard to get that across in text ...
[05:33] <wols_> JoeR1: less whine, more constructive ask for help.... You _still_ haven't told us what your problem is, if you go on like this I doubt you ever get it solved. but feel free
[05:34] <Blade20> JoeR1, wols_  is really a great one to ask for help...
[05:34] <wols_> ror: anti aliasing maybe? borders are a windowmanager thing (or theme) only
[05:34] <Blade20> ror, do you have compiz installed ...
[05:34] <TA5K> ror:  how about a screenshot?
[05:34] <ror> Blade20, yes; I can't see anything obviously missing from ccsm though
[05:35] <wols_> Blade20: ubuntu classic should be metacity, no?
[05:35] <JoeR1> thats wonderful, I don't know how else to explain it - libgtkhtml2-dev will not install, it does not appear to be recognized by apt-get
[05:35] <dr_willis> !info libgtkhtml2
[05:35] <Blade20> wols_, yes but still falls under the compiz fusion as far as i know
[05:35] <lapaga> wols_: Blade20 : dr_willis well will give it a try...think I am filling my Xubuntu install with a bunch of Ubuntu things but oh well
[05:35] <TA5K> joe75: maybe purge your last installed ppa?
[05:36] <JoeR1> can I get numbers instead of names, I don't follow the ignorant animal naming system
[05:36] <wols_> lapaga: use smplayer. that's very lightweight. no gnome, at most gtk
[05:36] <dr_willis> !find libgtkhtml
[05:36] <Blade20> JoeR1, it is not an official pkg anymore
[05:36] <dr_willis> numbers are just date of release i the version
[05:37] <JoeR1> and I take it libgtkhtml 3 and some change that I found in the package manager is not compatible?
[05:37] <Blade20> JoeR1, can you go into a bit more detail on what you need it for?
[05:37] <TA5K> any UI designers here?
[05:37] <JoeR1> gyachi
[05:37] <Mintal> no
[05:37] <TA5K> sad
[05:37] <bazhang> TA5K, whats the question
[05:37] <ror> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/6001056558_2ce201e40d_o.png
[05:37] <GirlyGirl> TA5K: yes
[05:37] <r3x> nick gr33n_c0d3
[05:37] <bazhang> JoeR1, there are ppa for gyache
[05:37] <Blade20> Mintal, ... sigh
[05:38] <Mintal> Blade20:
[05:38] <TA5K> bazhang: I just want to know how easy it is to join the team and if there is any need?
[05:38] <JoeR1> bazhang, the ppa for gyachi did not work
[05:38] <JoeR1> Xubuntu rejected it
[05:38] <Mintal> why did you adress me?
[05:38] <wols_> JoeR1: rejected how?
[05:38] <iszak> I've got a server running 10.10 right, and for some reason I have high load averages, upon inspecting top only md0_resync and md0_raid1 have noticable CPU loads with ~10% for the first and ~4% for the later. Any suggestions?
[05:38] <JoeR1> it said it was invalid
[05:38] <bazhang> JoeR1, exact error messages please
[05:39] <dr_willis> !info gyachi
[05:39] <TA5K> and btw is the UI in the next release also tested against dark skins and light fonts?
[05:39] <JoeR1> no, I'm am not using the ppa because i have spent two hours resolving dependencies and I intent to see it through
[05:39] <wols_> dr_willis: a 2007 yahoo client. very doubtful if it even works with yahoo.com
[05:39] <Blade20> JoeR1, the more detail you can give the more affective people can be in helping fix the problem
[05:39] <JoeR1> the ppa failed I moved on
[05:39] <bazhang> TA5K, next version discussing in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:40] <wols_> JoeR1: that gtkhtml lib does not exist anymore. it's an EX-lib. unless you want to manually downgrade your whole gnome installation, it's not gonna happen
[05:40] <TA5K> bazhang: oh we have a special channel for that? oki, I'll go there, thank ,)
[05:40] <JoeR1> and the version 3 in the repositories is not backwards compatible?
[05:41] <dr_willis> some apps can require specific versions yes.
[05:42] <sw0rdfish> how to check what my friend is doing? I gave him ssh access to do something for me in my vps?
[05:42] <Herakles> Hello, how do i restore the default Desktop (or default theme) in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[05:42] <dr_willis> major version #'s changes are often incompat.
[05:42] <Blade20> JoeR1, is that the only program... why can you not use another that does the same thing....
[05:43] <Herakles> a Command like #pkill gnome-panel would be nice... ( using Unity-Desktop)
[05:43] <JoeR1> gyachi is the only one I ave read about that supports yahoo voice
[05:43] <Blade20> Herakles, are you wanting to get away from unity?
[05:43] <dr_willis> Herakles:  unity --reset
[05:43] <Herakles> no..
[05:43] <dr_willis> Herakles:  unity --reset-icons
[05:44] <Herakles> hmm... sound good , Mr dr_willis.... moment please
[05:44] <dr_willis> compiz has its own reset command
[05:44] <str8> compiz sucks, fvwm-crystal all the way
[05:44] <dr_willis> see webupd8 blog site for where i got them from..
[05:44] <Blade20> i did not know compiz even worked with unity... lol
[05:45] <dr_willis> unity is the panel/shell... compiz is thw wm
[05:45] <goodtime> yes it does
[05:45] <Blade20> i want to check out Gnome 3 but im a chicken
[05:45] <Blade20> lol
[05:46] <Mintal> Blade20: ?
[05:46] <Blade20> Mintal, ??
[05:47] <theadmin> Blade20: Gnome3 isn't worth a try, honestly, nonsensical and buggy
[05:48] <ror> hmm, updating again and restarting again seemed to fix my appearance issues
[05:48] <ror> thanks anyway guys :)
[05:48] <Blade20> theadmin, see i guess it's not such a bad thing to be a chicken then right? lol
[05:48] <Blade20> ror,  glad it worked out :)
[05:48] <theadmin> Blade20: lol.
[05:48] <goodtime> yah
[05:48] <theadmin> bazhang: Wow, taking much bans off today
[05:48] <goodtime> lol
[05:49]  * goodtime is listening to KMFDM [ Adios ] - 10. Bereit [Audacious]
[05:49] <rww> goodtime: we don't care
[05:49] <bazhang> goodtime, turn that off
[05:49] <goodtime> im so high
[05:49] <str8> anyone ever get /dev/tcp working on ubuntu?
[05:49] <Blade20> wow
[05:49] <iszak> what does "pcnt" stand for in the "perf top" command?
[05:49] <bazhang> !ot > goodtime
[05:49] <goodtime> rww: ok
[05:50]  * theadmin thinks that reading IRC guidelines is the first thing to do when you join here, no? goodtime
[05:50] <goodtime> ty ubottu
[05:50] <str8> is that a negatory
[05:50] <goodtime> peace out
[05:50] <goodtime> ok
[05:50] <goodtime> sorry
[05:50] <str8> anyone?
[05:51] <Blade20> str8, give it time... if anyone can answer they will...
[05:51] <dr_willis> Herakles:  tell the channel the whole issue.
[05:51] <wols_> dr_willis: easy: "Hera is mean to me!" :)
[05:52] <wols_> well, Juno, but that's the same thing/woman
[05:52] <supercom32> Is Ext4 safer to use overall than Ext3 for data loss now? Or is ext3 still better?
[05:52] <bittin`> http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/4e378ce538d77_2011-08-02-073603_1280x960_scrot.png
[05:53] <theadmin> supercom32: ext4 is safe.
[05:53] <theadmin> bittin`: Wrong channel.
[05:53] <Herakles> I changed background in nautilus and it came to happen that other Systemcomponents have been affected, such like the upper Panel (incl. the Indicater-applets)
[05:53] <MrSalt> I just changed my home partition to btrfs.  I'm hoping it's a stable as I think I've been reading.
[05:54] <Herakles> but i like the Unity-Desktop...
[05:54] <supercom32> theadmin: So there is absolutly no reason to use ext3 anymore for really any reason?
[05:54] <theadmin> supercom32: Old kernel/bootloader support.
[05:54] <dr_willis> i have a nas or 2 that cant do ext4
[05:54] <wols_> supercom32: compatibility. ext3 exists longer and other products/OSes support it better
[05:55] <wols_> e.g stuff like partition imagers, resizers, MS windows, etc
[05:55] <Herakles> the upper Panel is now in a kind of old school-theme.. doesn´t looks nice ....
[05:55] <supercom32> But in terms of data loss due to unforseen hardware/software/power issues ext4 has more safe-guards than ext3 right?
[05:56] <str8> its harder to recover
[05:56] <str8> /dev/tcp anyone?
[05:57] <wols_> supercom32: only safeguard I can see is the Journal checksumming, while the delayed allocation seems to increase risk of data loss. see thw wikipedia page for ext4
[05:57] <sancas> what can i use for record my screen?
[05:58] <bazhang> !screencast | sancas
[05:58] <sancas> thanks
[05:58] <supercom32> wols_: Thats my worry. Is the risk of apps not using fsync worse or better than gaining journal checksumming? :P
[05:59] <wols_> supercom32: imho it's a wash. main reason for ext4 is improved performance which is negligible too actually. hardware has a much bigger impact on speeds
[05:59] <Tom^> and ext4 has discard for ssd's
[06:00] <Tom^> aka trim
[06:00] <wols_> Tom^: that's a very good reason for ext4, yes
[06:00] <supercom32> wols_: So for data reliability (Yes, I know have 2 backups), ext3 > ext4 since there is no question regarding poorly writen apps?
[06:01] <Kartagis> hi
[06:01] <Tom^> tbh speaking about data loss with ext4 is a bit overkill
[06:01] <m1h0> gi
[06:01] <m1h0> *hi
[06:01] <wols_> supercom32: the fact that all kinds of repair and imaging tools support ext3 a lot better is more important than any new features imho.the poorly written apps or the checksumming are bot irrelevant compared to that. if you want to be safe, you always got to be conservative
[06:02] <Tom^> you will rather see hard drive failure then data loss where a ext3 would have saved you
[06:02] <MrSalt> Isn't more redundency and checksumming to reason for btrfs?
[06:02] <Tom^> does btrfs have fsck yet?
[06:03] <supercom32> wols_: Thats a really good point.
[06:03] <MrSalt> A basic one, yes
[06:04] <sancas> how can i connect to wireless with wpa secure
[06:05] <MrSalt> Tom^: Looking for the reference, but not finding it.  It's within the last month or so.
[06:05] <supercom32> Ok, thanks everyone! I think Ext3 is the way to go for me. I won't worry about fsync or checksuming since those seem to be rather neglegible.
[06:05] <supercom32> Software support seems to be the only big issue.
[06:05] <Tom^> MrSalt ok
[06:06] <Herakles> How do i disable the GUI by a Keyboard-Keybinding ?
[06:06] <wols_> sancas: usually via network-manager. but there are other ways too. first you have to make sure your wlan card actually works tho
[06:06] <wols_> !wifi | sancas
[06:06] <theadmin> Herakles: You can restart X with Alt+Prtsc+K, or go to a TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F2.
[06:06] <MrSalt> Tom^: I've been reading other forums and they were big on btrfs for reliability.  I've got backups, but still.  It's a big addition to kernel 3.0
[06:07] <Blade20> wols_, what is the wrapper that lets you use windows drivers for wireless?
[06:07] <wols_> MrSalt: Tom^ is right, before they have a more than just basic fsck and have some experience in the real world, their reliability is zero or even negative
[06:07] <wols_> Blade20: ndiswrapper. don't use it. the chances that you actually need it is very very very small
[06:08] <sancas> thanks
[06:08] <wols_> Blade20: wlan support has improved over the years
[06:08] <Blade20> wols_, ahh ok... thank you :)
[06:08] <MrSalt> wols_: Understood.  I'm giving it a spin anyway.  :)
[06:09] <rabbit1> unable to get full screen in virtualbox, any suggestion?
[06:09] <wols_> MrSalt: that's fine. trying it out is great, only way to get the real world experience, both for you and the FS programmers. but my point still stands :)
[06:09] <kcm1700> My wheel mouse is scrolling horizontally. Is it a feature ? how to use it?
[06:10] <kcm1700> I wanna switch between horizontal/vertical wheel scrolling
[06:10] <kcm1700> any help? what keyword should I google for?
[06:11] <highline> hello ppl
[06:11] <wols_> kcm1700: do you have a mouse whiceh can do both or have a normal wheel mouse, with normal scroll wheel and what this single wheel to do both?
[06:12] <kcm1700> I think normal scroll wheel. single wheel between two buttons.
[06:13] <wols_> kcm1700: newer mice have a wheel you can press left or right and it works for scrolling vertically
[06:14] <zykes-> wols_: i can paste you that xorg.log file that you requested, sorry for the delay (regarding nvidia issues on a lenovo t510 with nvidia gm3100 card that's not working)
[06:15] <wols_> zykes-: you can, but right now I gotta go for a drive for and hour or two. and yout T510 should (usually) work fine. even with hybrid graphics
[06:15] <kcm1700> it's an old ordinary mouse. hmm that method doesn't seem to work well with my case. thx for your care.
[06:16] <zykes-> wols_: oh ?
[06:16] <wols_> zykes-: paste it. there are more people than me here who can help
[06:16] <wols_> if you still want it solved that is
[06:17] <zykes-> yeah i want
[06:17] <kcm1700> Actually the wheel was working as a vertical scroller at startup. After some time on linux, it works as a horizontal scroller.
[06:18] <kcm1700> I think I accidently turned on horizontal scrolling feature(?), is it nothing to do with linux? I didn't see this behaviour on windows.
[06:19] <zykes-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656912/
[06:24] <zykes-> anyone able to take a look ?
[06:26] <ck_> 3
[06:27] <zykes-> dunno why i get no screen found :/
[06:28] <ck_> has anyone used wordtracker, tried to take the data into openOffice?
[06:29] <Herakles> I rebooted manually, and now the Display is completly restored..., thank you dr_willis....
[06:29] <Blade20> zykes-, looking now
[06:31] <kcm1700> ah... it wasn't linux thing.
[06:31] <kcm1700> it was virtualbox bug. sorry.
[06:32] <Blade20> zykes-, i use ATI so i do not know  for sure what the command is for nvidia ... for ati the command is sudo aticonfig --initial -f    for one monitor...
[06:32] <zykes-> i have done that Blade20, nvidia-settings
[06:32] <zykes-> should i post the config ?
[06:32] <mark__> I have a youtube video stuck on my screen, anyone know how to fix that?
[06:32] <Blade20> zykes-, how many monitors are you running?
[06:33] <zykes-> 2 Blade20 that are connected
[06:33] <mark__> ...
[06:33] <zykes-> but i've tried with just the laptop as well
[06:34] <args[0]> Hi, if i install vsftpd (ftp) on my ubuntu, will it automatically run always after i restart?
[06:34] <Blade20> zykes-,  again not sure what the settings are for nvidia but with my ati what i had to do was remove the xorg.conf file and start a new one with aticonfig --initial and use the command line to set up for dual monitors... once you find the right command it will work
[06:35] <Blade20> zykes-,  have you tried nvidia-settings --help in terminal
[06:38] <zykes-> Blade20: yes but says nothing about something like "dual monitors" or similar
[06:38] <Tom^> zykes- you shouldnt need to make any explicit nvidia-settings command
[06:39] <Tom^> just temporarly mv the old xorg.conf away launch nvidia-settings and it creates a new xorg.conf then setup dual monitors under "X Server Display Configuration"
[06:39] <zykes-> Tom^: sorry nvidia-xconfig
[06:40] <zykes-> Tom^: i can't get nvidia-settings either to budge, "The control display is undefined"
[06:43] <share> if I hibernate computer Ubuntu will use swap partition right
[06:44] <Shadow11> greetings
[06:44] <share> ei
[06:44] <Shadow11> question regarding running from usb stick
[06:45] <Shadow11> I started up successfully, close down and started up on anther computer..and it asked me for login....   dont know what is supposed to go in there. did not create new account first.
[06:45] <Shadow11> any ideas?
[06:45] <^Pilgrim^> hello
[06:46] <^Pilgrim^> i have a question
[06:46] <Shadow11> hello ^Pilgrim^
[06:46] <mintux> how to fix grub in new version of ubuntu
[06:46] <share> Shadow11: did u install persistent usb or live usb
[06:46] <mintux> grub command doesn't work for me
[06:46] <bazhang> !grub2 | mintux have a read
[06:46] <Shadow11> persistent I believe.   gave it 4gig space to save settings.
[06:47] <DETERMINOLOGY> Bout to flash roms..Steel or viper?
[06:47] <^Pilgrim^> question: how can I network a number of linux machines so that all the users can login to a central user/pwd database with their home folders in the server?
[06:47] <DETERMINOLOGY> opps
[06:47] <Shadow11> used the linked program to install iso image onto 32gb flash drive.
[06:48] <Shadow11> gave it 4gb storage space to save settings
[06:48] <Shadow11> booted up twice on two seperate machines..when I shut down on second and started again..was asking for auto login or other.  tried auto but it rejected the option
[06:49] <Shadow11> Pilgrim I would guess an ldap server would do that..but have not setup on linux before..perhaps someone else on list can help there
[06:50] <Shadow11> all the machines would need to be configured for ldap server locaiton and login requiremetnts.
[06:50] <Shadow11> and be able to reach it on network of course
[06:51] <Shadow11> anyone had dealings with autologin/other showing up on usb boot stick?
[06:51] <Kartagis> !gnome3
[06:51] <bsmith093> how do i set a command to go off 15 secs from now
[06:52] <Kartagis> bsmith093: sleep 15;command
[06:52] <bsmith093> ah duh thanks
[06:52] <Kartagis> np
[06:53] <Shadow11> any comments on boot options showing up when there was none require before?
[06:53] <weside> Man, I was just looking on http://gnome3.org/ and watching the videos, yeah I think I like Gnome 3 better then Unity, lol.
[06:54] <rww> GNOME 3 is a desktop environment. Unity is a shell for GNOME 2 and 3. Perhaps you mean GNOME Shell, which is another (more official) shell.
[06:54] <weside> Yah you know what I mean.
[06:55] <thauriswulfa> HELP: Need help to install synaptics-dkms_1.1.0_all.deb in xubuntu to enable multitouch in touchpad.
[06:57] <zykes-> Tom^: any other hints?
[06:58] <Tom^> zykes- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[06:58] <Tom^> test follow that
[06:59] <Tom^> i dont have ubuntu myself but give it a shot
[07:02] <thauriswulfa> can anybody help me enabling touchpad scrollbars?
[07:05] <share> is there any problem if I use a username with only letter
[07:05] <share> im not running a server..
[07:05] <kylemcgill> For Gnome three support, would here or #gnome be the right place, my issue is after a clean installation of Ubuntu 11.04 off a live cd, i add the repo, update, dist-upgrade, install gnome-shell my ubuntu installation wont boot ><
[07:05] <share> !username
[07:06] <cvloc13> hey everyone, im having a bit of trouble with learning C that i believe has to do with my distro
[07:07] <cvloc13> im trying to compile some source using gc.h and have already apt-get libgc-dev but when i compile with gcc i get an error of file not found for gc.h
[07:07] <kylemcgill> have you got build-essentials?
[07:07] <kylemcgill> cvloc13: ^^
[07:07] <cvloc13> i believe so
[07:07] <rww> it's named build-essential
[07:08] <cvloc13> yup already have
[07:10] <GeorgeJ> cvloc13: What does `find /usr/include/ -name rdma` yield?
[07:12] <cvloc13> /usr/include/rdma
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> ah sorry
[07:13] <greekk> hello
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> find /usr/include/ -name gc.h is what I ment, or dpkg -L libgc-dev as you were suggested
[07:13] <GeorgeJ> It should show you the path to gc.h(if installed)
[07:14] <GeorgeJ> It should be somewhere in /usr/include. If its in /usr/include/gc/gc.h you could simply #include <gc/gc.h>
[07:15] <theadmin> Or to use the full path you do #include '/usr/include/gc/gc.h'
[07:15] <cvloc13> ok ill try the gc/gc.h
[07:15] <cvloc13> ah ok thanks that worked :P
[07:16] <carl-eric> hi - my natty /boot partition is shot. How do I recreate a boot partition and install a grub with swap being on a random-key encrypted partition and / being on a password-encrypted partition?
[07:17] <quiescens> as in, you have the above setup. but you are now missing your /boot ?
[07:18] <carl-eric> quiescens, exactly
[07:18] <researcher123> where can I obtain software for morphing in ubuntu
[07:18] <carl-eric> quiescens, upon re-booting from a live CD, it would not recognize the partition that was supposed to be /boot
[07:18] <quiescens> you would most likely want to find a way to mount your encrypted partition
[07:19] <carl-eric> quiescens, i managed to do that from the live cd
[07:19] <researcher123> is there a forum for Morphing?
[07:19] <Hittwice> hello
[07:19] <quiescens> why doesn't it recognize /boot ?
[07:19] <Hittwice> i need help
[07:19] <carl-eric> quiescens, I have no idea
[07:19] <quiescens> errors? or doesn't appear at all?
[07:19] <quiescens> is it on the same drive as the rest?
[07:20] <quiescens> it doesn't recognize the partition exists? or it simply can't mount it?
[07:20] <carl-eric> quiescens, all one drive in the laptop. all other partitions work fine, the formerly-/boot partition is there, but it doesn't recognize the filesystem
[07:20] <Hittwice> I need help
[07:20] <Hittwice> The latest update remove GNOME!
[07:20] <quiescens> carl-eric: so if you've tried to fix it and have had no success, and have no backup, you can probably format the partition and remake your /boot
[07:20] <Hittwice> Now Im running on unity
[07:21] <Hittwice> can anyone tell me how to get back Gnome?!
[07:21] <vuth> hi hittwice
[07:21] <iceroot> !classic | Hittwice
[07:21] <Hittwice> tried installing via apt-get, but couldnt
[07:21] <carl-eric> quiescens, that's what I'm thinking ;-) My problem is: How do I a) get the proper files back on /boot, and b) how do I get grub to work with the encrypted partitions
[07:21] <vuth> http://technologytales.com/2011/06/03/adding-gnome-3-to-linux-mint-11/
[07:21] <Hittwice> when i login theres no GNome classic
[07:21] <vuth> go to that hittwice
[07:22] <iceroot> Hittwice: output of "dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop" please
[07:22] <Hittwice> Only Ubuntu and Recovery console
[07:22] <TA5K> Hittwice: have you checked your update history in synaptics eg?
[07:22] <iceroot> Hittwice: you are on 11.04?
[07:22] <Hittwice> yes
[07:23] <TA5K> Hittwice: and selected the right one oin the login screen?
[07:23] <Hittwice> no response from command "dpkg -l | grep ubuntu-desktop"
[07:23] <Hittwice> balnk response
[07:23] <vuth> omg this kid just pissed on my lawn!!! got damn BUNGHOLE
[07:23] <quiescens> carl-eric: if you have managed to boot a livecd, first step is mount your / somewhere
[07:23] <theadmin> vuth: Wrong channel.
[07:23] <kamidi> Hittwice: are you sure you didn't upgrade to 11.10 (oneiric)? i think gnome classic is already removed from it
[07:23] <vuth> opppz sorry wrong chat window
[07:23] <carl-eric> quiescens, got that
[07:23] <Hittwice> no i didnt
[07:23] <vuth> sorry admin
[07:23] <carl-eric>  / seems to be in order
[07:24] <kamidi> Hittwice: ok just checking.. weird
[07:24] <Hittwice> Ubuntu 11.04
[07:24] <Hittwice> i checked the synaptic, gnome packages are missing
[07:24] <Hittwice> all of them!
[07:25] <quiescens> carl-eric: where? anyway, you will want to bind your /dev /proc /sys into that tree so that you can use chroot
[07:25] <iceroot> Hittwice: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:25] <Hittwice> could not be installed
[07:25] <Hittwice> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation:  The following packages have unmet dependencies:  ubuntu-desktop : Depends: evince but it is not going to be installed                   Recommen
[07:26] <iceroot> Hittwice: please paste the output of "cat /etc/issue" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:26] <carl-eric> quiescens, one moment, doing that
[07:26] <iceroot> !paste | Hittwice
[07:26] <brylie> ubottu, language
[07:26] <iceroot> Hittwice: also the output of "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop"
[07:27] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656951/
[07:27] <Hittwice> the output
[07:28] <carl-eric> quiescens, got /dev /proc /sys bound in the mounted /
[07:28] <theadmin> Hamsters.
[07:29] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656953/
[07:29] <Hittwice> another one
[07:29] <Hittwice> hello?
[07:30] <quiescens> carl-eric: so you need to do mount -o bind /dev /wherever/dev
[07:30] <quiescens> carl-eric: and again for /proc and /sys
[07:30] <carl-eric> quiescens, I did that
[07:32] <quiescens> and then you should be able to chroot to your old /
[07:32] <Hittwice> anyone?
[07:32] <quiescens> and from there, hopefully apt-get reinstall your kernel image, and then update-grub
[07:33] <quiescens> carl-eric: mount your new /boot too of course
[07:33] <carl-eric> quiescens, do I mount /boot before the chroot into the to-be-chrooted tree, or do i mount it to /boot, once I'm in chroot?
[07:34] <tsinfo> Hi, any squirrelmail chat plugin
[07:34] <quiescens> carl-eric: probably easiest to mount it before you chroot
[07:35] <share> lol
[07:35] <share> Natty install detects Windows 7 as Vista
[07:36] <Hittwice> hello anyone that can help me?
[07:36] <share> !anyone
[07:36] <quiescens> carl-eric: you will probably need to grub-install (your new /boot device) too
[07:36] <Hittwice> Apparently everyone is leaving my problems without any note
[07:37] <nbest>    Hi.  A software instalation instruction says to :"Then add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list file:"  Plz where can i find the sources list file?
[07:37] <nbest>  i'm very new to ubuntu.
[07:37] <Hittwice> they leave my problems unattended
[07:37] <Hittwice> I asked earlier and there is a response
[07:37] <carl-eric> quiescens, i'm installing the linux image now - what are the exact commands i need for grub?
[07:38] <kamidi> Hittwice: I'm not expert about those kind of things but everything seems to be ok (i think), except that ubuntu-desktop package is not installed (and apparently cannot be installed due to broken dependancies)
[07:38] <carl-eric> quiescens, there is also a windows partition on that drive (which is the bootable one)
[07:38] <Hittwice> finally some response
[07:38] <ThinkT510> nbest: what are you trying to install?
[07:38] <nbest> tor
[07:38] <ThinkT510> !find tor
[07:38] <quiescens> carl-eric: (possibly sudo, depending on whether you are already root) grub-install (your new /boot device)
[07:39] <theadmin> !info tor | ThinkT510
[07:39] <Hittwice> well i assume ubuntu wont have that kind or problems
[07:39] <quiescens> carl-eric: (possibly sudo, depending on whether you are already root) update-grub
[07:39] <kamidi> Hittwice: No, i don't think so
[07:39] <ThinkT510> nbest: there you go, it is in the repo
[07:39] <Hittwice> something is not allowing me to install gnome
[07:39] <ThinkT510> nbest: sudo apt-get install tor
[07:39] <carl-eric> quiescens, so first grub-install, then update-grub
[07:39] <quiescens> carl-eric: should be
[07:40] <dr_willis> tor finally made it back into the repos eh.
[07:40] <carl-eric> quiescens, do I point it at the new /boot or the bootable windows partition?
[07:40] <carl-eric> quiescens, or at /dev/sda itself?
[07:40] <nbest>  think they said not to use the ubuntu universe because they are less reliable then from the official site
[07:40] <quiescens> carl-eric: actually, I don't know if your boot loader is intact, and is just missing the files in /boot
[07:40] <Hittwice> Must be Unity hating GNOME to the point it removes and doesn't allow me to install it back
[07:40] <piercedwater> irc.what.cd 6667
[07:40] <quiescens> one moment
[07:40] <ThinkT510> nbest: when installing software you should always look in the package manager first (don't just randomly download it off the internet)
[07:40] <kamidi> Hittwice: have you tried 'sudo apt-get install -f' to fix dependencies?
[07:41] <quiescens> carl-eric: you may be able to get away with just the update-grub
[07:41] <carl-eric> quiescens, i'm not sure about that either. I think the best bet would be to just reinstall grub too
[07:41] <Hittwice> yes
[07:41] <Hittwice> and they ask me to use apt-get remove
[07:41] <Hittwice> which i dont want to
[07:41] <quiescens> carl-eric: okay, well where you do grub-install to depends on your setup
[07:42] <starlite>  how can I display command line (shell) output as a popup or a webpage in ubuntu ?
[07:42] <kamidi> Hittwice: What is it going to remove when you do it?
[07:42] <quiescens> carl-eric: did you previously have the grub bootloader, give you an option of linux and windows
[07:42] <carl-eric> quiescens, yes i did
[07:42] <quiescens> or did you have the windows loader, giving you the option
[07:42] <Hittwice> !paste  gir1.2-json-1.0 libseed0 gir1.2-gstreamer-0.10 gir1.2-clutter-1.0   xulrunner-2.0-mozjs libclutter-1.0-0 gnome-js-common libclutter-1.0-common
[07:42] <carl-eric> quiescens, i had grub coming up on boot
[07:42] <quiescens> carl-eric: in that case, you probably want to grub-install to the drive (/dev/sda or /dev/hda or whichever)
[07:43] <nbest>   think .. sorry, maybe i misunderstood the instructions.  They said "Do not use the packages in Ubuntu's universe. In the past they have not reliably been updated. That means you could be missing stability and security fixes."
[07:43] <Hittwice> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656966/
[07:43] <carl-eric> quiescens, thanks, I'm going to try and boot that machine now :)
[07:44] <Hittwice> the packages that is going to remove
[07:44] <ThinkT510> nbest: if that is what it says on the tor site, feel free to do what you want (don't expect it to be easy to maintain though if you install it any other way)
[07:45] <tsinfo> Hi, Has anyone installed a plugin for internet chat?