[20:24] <bejker> User2005:  type sudo fdisk -l and put all on pastebin.com
[20:25] <zykotick9> bejker: i only use UUID for swap (and even that isn't REALLY necessary, but it doesn't offer label for swap during install: you can put labels on swap, at creation time)
[20:25] <User2005> bejker: blkid does not show it either :( If lspci didn't show it, I would think it had disapeared completely
[20:25] <User2005> bejker: 2 sec.
[20:26] <lattera> looks like Unity doesn't like the third monitor
[20:26] <zykotick9> lattera: i'd try a different DE/WM if i where you, before spending too much time testing in unity (which has multi-monitor issues)
[20:27] <bejker> zykotick9: i have swap mounted /dev/disk but in fdisk -l they showm me something like cyptswap1 wtf is that?
[20:27] <MoALTz> when trying to install xorg-dev via the ubuntu software center (need it to build SDL2 correctly) it pops up a message saying: "If you install xorg-dev, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?" - what exactly does it mean? seems silly that an optional dev package will BLOCK or break updates :s
[20:28] <zykotick9> bejker: sorry if you're using an encrypted filesystem = i have no idea.  best of luck.
[20:28] <MoALTz> i'm finding nothing useful from plugging this sort of message into search engines
[20:28] <Guest35501> Hello there - I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors in 13.04 (one monitor is hooked up VGA-to-DVI-I and the other is DVI-D-to-DVI-D), the DVI-D monitor shows up as "unknown" with the latest Nvidia drivers... Any thoughts on what to do to make the OS detect the monitor correctly?
[20:28] <bejker> zykotick9:  sometimes i give shell to my friend so i encrypt :)
[20:29] <MoALTz> (i'm wary about just installing because i nuked an ubuntu vm earlier today by following the guide here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu ....)
[20:31] <User2005> bejker: http://pastebin.com/zpjr5aLW
[20:32] <User2005> bejker: fdisk does mention that root and swap doesn't contain a valid partition table?
[20:34] <User2005> bejker: but I expect that is because of lvm
[20:34] <HackerII> wow john ___________time no see
[20:36] <bejker> User2005:  in BIOS they show you 2 disk?
[20:36] <mrrcp> whats the proper location to save shared files in ubuntu
[20:36] <mrrcp> such as music or pictures
[20:36] <mrrcp> etc
[20:37] <bejker> mrrcp: /home/user
[20:37] <lattera> if I place the third monitor on the same video card as the other two monitors (my card has one dvi and two hdmi), the third monitor is listed, but when I try to enable the monitor with ubuntu's screen config setting, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/1nvycqLq
[20:38] <mrrcp> so just tell them the location?
[20:38] <Lsak> Hi there, I was wondering if I could get some help. I've tried googling the issue but i'm getting stuck at one of the steps. I am trying to run a dual boot system on seperate hard drives with Win7 and Ubuntu 12.10. I am currently getting the blank screen error and from I read I need to try install the newest Nvidia drivers but when I try getting into terminal using ctrl+alt+f1 the terminal
[20:38] <Lsak> doesn't appear so I cannot use apt-get to update the drivers. Any ideas?
[20:39] <bejker> mrrcp:  i think
[20:39] <bejker> Lsak:  try logout and log without x sesion
[20:40] <ChaosTheory> I'd like to run a script on boot that requires sudo, how would I go about doing that?
[20:41] <Pricey> ran grub-install on both disks again, fixed...
[20:43] <User2005> Bejker: I'll check, I wouldn't expect so, the RAID controller has it's own BIOS.
[20:43] <Lsak> can I start x session from root?
[20:43] <bedo2991> Hello, I'm trying to install moonlight but I get a 403 error at the page http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Any other way to get it?
[20:44] <bejker> Lsak:  yes u can
[20:44] <bejker> User2005:  all raid controller have own bios :) it's normal
[20:46] <User2005> bejker: Exactly, I've never seen their volumes show up in the "regular" BIOS, but I will check for you.
[20:46] <bejker> bedo2991:  no, moonlight is not working silverlight is crap
[20:46] <kostkon> bedo2991, pipelight is what you need
[20:47] <MoALTz> ok now i'm annoyed. this time i backed up my ubuntu vm image, then followed the sudo apt-get command in http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu
[20:47] <bejker> User2005:  if i good remember they show in regular bios as 2 diferent hard drive
[20:47] <DJones> bedo2991: From memory, I thought the moonlight project had been dropped a couple of years back
[20:47] <MoALTz> then i restarted the vm. result: the desktop environment is broken
[20:47] <ikonia> moonlight is dead
[20:47] <MoALTz> it does not finish the loading screen
[20:47] <MoALTz> (ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS)
[20:47] <djangonoob> hi, I have a problem with an usb stick... I can't see it
[20:47] <MoALTz> ssh still works, so i know the system isn't frozen
[20:47] <ikonia> MoALTz: why are you blindlny installing things
[20:48] <djangonoob> also gparted and "df -h"
[20:48] <ikonia> MoALTz: why don't you just install "what you need"
[20:48] <MoALTz> ikonia: cannot "install" SDL2 because it isn't in the software center
[20:49] <ikonia> MoALTz: right - so think about your options then
[20:49] <ikonia> MoALTz: you are installing developmen libraries, so you must have a basic grasp on how to do this as somsone who can use these development libraries, and the risks of causing a conflict ?
[20:49] <bedo2991> DJones: they'd better bring the moonlight page down rather than keeping it without the download page or a reasonable explanation.
[20:49] <bedo2991> kostkon: thanks, I'll try it
[20:50] <MoALTz> such as building it myself? when i follow a guide that is claimed to work it ruins my system. when i try installing the dependencies one at a time via the software center i get a vague and dangerous sounding warning on trying to install xorg-dev
[20:50] <ikonia> MoALTz: those instructions are terrible on that website
[20:50] <User2005> bejker: It doesn't show the drive (Or RAID volumn rather); But I am fairly certain this is because the motherboard BIOS will only show its own controllers attached drives.
[20:50] <ikonia> MoALTz: sorry, that lack of attention to detail is unacceptable
[20:50] <DJones> bedo2991: Found this http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/05/Miguel-Moonlight "Miguel: We have abandoned Moonlight." about half way down the page
[20:50] <Guest35501> exit
[20:50] <bejker> User2005:  but in controller bios show 2 drives?
[20:50] <djangonoob> help... I cant see my usb stick
[20:51] <User2005> the RAID controller shows 8 disks, in one RAID6 volumn, yes.
[20:51] <bejker> 8 disk :o
[20:52] <kostkon> bedo2991, article about it here http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[20:53] <User2005> And that volumn, this virtual machine showed as /dev/sdb1 before I shut it down, and detached the CD-rom image with ubuntu-server on it.
[20:53] <bejker> User2005:  so if they realy shows in controller bios and os dont shows drives i real dont know how to help you
[20:54] <quantumpants_> Hay guys, Im new to ubuntu and dont really know much about programming etc, any tips on where to start??
[20:54] <ikonia> quantumpants_: read a tutorial on the languages you are interesed in
[20:54] <User2005> Bejker: Okay, thank you for lending your time all the same; Nice to know I am not alone ;)
[20:54] <quantumpants_> I was thinking C++?
[20:54] <bedo2991> pipelight's not working too
[20:54] <ikonia> quantumpants_: ok, so read a tutorial on that
[20:54] <kostkon> quantumpants_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[20:55] <ikonia> quantumpants_: try the ##programming channel
[20:56] <quantumpants_> thanks guys
[20:56] <Braun>  i can'ttype .in arabic,falks
[20:56] <bejker> User2005: try type fdisk /dev/sdb
[20:57] <smaudet> Ok, is Intel HD 4000 supported by Ubuntu?
[20:57] <kostkon> smaudet, yes
[20:58] <User2005> I am new to this vmware passthru game; Can anyone tell me if the device id (when editing the vm's settings), should match the device from lspci (because vmware says 05:00:0, and lspci says 03:00:0) - I just imagined that vmware shows the id of the >actual< device, and the virtual machine, shows the id of where it now is "virtually", even though it is passed through. ? (a VMware question, I know, but maybe soemone knows)
[20:58] <smaudet> kostkon: hmm, thanks, been trying to get this lenovo g700 to boot something, anything thats not windows 8. all day X_X
[20:59] <kostkon> smaudet, what is the problem you are facing
[21:00] <mrrcp> smaudet: new to win 8?
[21:00] <smaudet> kostkon: nothing has been booting, I've tried gparted, kubuntu 13.04, ubuntu 13.04, via cd, usb, crunchbang linux - I get a black screen of 'death', nothing shows up
[21:00] <mrrcp> get used to that.. you need to disable the extra crap in the bios
[21:00] <smaudet> mrrcp, been doing that
[21:00] <smaudet> not been helping
[21:00] <mrrcp> nope
[21:00] <Braun> who's in charge here?
[21:00] <mrrcp> trust me i had this issue a few weeks ago
[21:00] <mrrcp> disable the security
[21:00] <smaudet> Braun, no one
[21:01] <smaudet> mrrcp, first thing I did
[21:01] <smaudet> didn't help
[21:01] <smaudet> mrrcp, I think its a video driver issue
[21:01] <mrrcp> 1 sec
[21:01] <mrrcp> nah
[21:01] <mrrcp> you saying it wont even let you select the file to boot?
[21:01] <mrrcp> your
[21:01] <mrrcp> right?
[21:02] <User2005> smaudet: I've run several ubuntu's with HD4000, but the most I stress a graphics card is qt creator or maybe vlc, so I couldn't tell you how "well" it performs.
[21:02] <smaudet> mrrcp hang on
[21:02] <kostkon> smaudet, hmm do you think it could be this backlight prob? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/143
[21:04] <jerkahol> 'm running Ubuntu without GPU drivers :/ producing much lesser heat than Spl Driver
[21:05] <User2005> smaudet: btw. intel hd4000, 3770T/K CPU's with z77 chipsets.
[21:05] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: yes, unetbootin
[21:06] <dtcrshr> I found an old dvdrw here, burned 12.04.3 lts and im finishing install
[21:06] <smaudet> thanks guys sorry a bit overwhelmed by a couple other things atm
[21:06] <dtcrshr> on the acer one
[21:06] <smaudet> will look into everything you've been saying thanks :)
[21:11] <Braun> HELPPPPPPPPP
[21:12] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: unetbookin in windows, has issues... try a different method.  good luck.
[21:13] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: I did, kinda slower but for only installing is working
[21:13] <dtcrshr> where do i get smaller / alternatives?
[21:14] <Braun> HELPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:15] <m_tadeu_> hi...how can I bring up a network connection on the command line?
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | braun
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Braun  no caps please, just ask your question
[21:16] <ikonia> Braun: try actually asking a question if you want help
[21:17] <SchrodingersScat> I scrolled up and it was something about typing in arabic.
[21:19] <Sc0rp10n> hey guys
[21:19] <Braun> SchrodingersScat: ,MonkeyDust,ikonia,ubutto,i can't type in arabis
[21:19] <zykotick9> m_tadeu_: if you mean ethernet, check out /etc/network/interfaces.  if you mean wireless, you might want to try wicd-curses.
[21:19] <Braun> arabic*
[21:20] <MoALTz> ok got a basic sdl2 window running by installing: libx11-dev and libxext-dev, then rebuilding sdl2 (./configure, make, sudo make install). won't have opengl and other stuff but at least it didn't render desktop unusable (unlike that guide's instructions)
[21:20] <Sc0rp10n> I was trying to install Ubuntu desktop over Lubuntu. I installed ubuntu-desktop and restarted but I don't see the Ubuntu desktop. Can you help me plz?
[21:21] <m_tadeu_> zykotick9: I have a problem...my desktop doesnt start...I need to start my wifi in order to install missing packages
[21:21] <m_tadeu_> and I don't have wicd installed
[21:21] <zykotick9> MoALTz: fri, are you familiar with checkinstall?  if not, you should check it out.
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Braun  did you install the approprioate language pack?
[21:22] <zykotick9> m_tadeu_: assuming you have wpasupplicant installed, you can setup wireless with /etc/network/interfaces as well.  best of luck.
[21:22] <Braun> MonkeyDust: yep
[21:23] <Sc0rp10n> can anyone help me?
[21:23] <Sc0rp10n> I was trying to install Ubuntu desktop over Lubuntu. I installed ubuntu-desktop and restarted but I don't see the Ubuntu desktop.
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> Braun  in what application can you not write arabic? what happens when you try?
[21:24] <OerHeks> Sc0rp10n, logout( not shutdown) , change desktop and login again
[21:24] <Braun> in all applications,the input method keeps the same:eng.
[21:24] <kostkon> Sc0rp10n, in the login screen click on the gear icon to select a desktop session
[21:24] <tasslehoff> to mount my hfs+ partition with write permission I still have to disable journalling, right?
[21:25] <Braun> MonkeyDust: in all applications,the input method keeps the same:eng.
[21:25] <Sc0rp10n> ah ok I'll try that thanks
[21:26] <mrrcp> eeek windows 95
[21:30] <linuxnewbie> hello, how can i  automatically  set "always on visible workspace" option to pidgin window ? ...i have tried using devilspie but i can't get it to work ...i'm using unity for the moment if it's important
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Braun  system settings > language support ... is arabic in the list?
[21:36] <Braun> MonkeyDust:  yea,it is
[21:36] <greenut> hey guys can u tell me why ubuntu overheats on my mac? what i can do to solve this problem?
[21:37] <greenut> while OS X runs fine.
[21:37] <greenut> It must be drivers that need be installed?
[21:37] <OerHeks> greenut, check the mactel pages and add the ppa, for fanspeedcontrol https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[21:37] <mrrcp> greenut: which mac
[21:37] <OerHeks> !mac
[21:37] <greenut> sorry, its macbook pro 8,3
[21:38] <lattera> alright, so kde4 doesn't mind having the third monitor... but it thinks that the first two, which are configured for TwinView are acting as just a single monitor
[21:38] <lattera> so if I maximize an application, it takes up both monitors
[21:38] <greenut> Hmmm ok, OerHeks and ubottu.
[21:38] <lattera> I guess the fix for this would be to have all three monitors be their own X screens
[21:39] <greenut> awesome… i think it will fix my problem. thanks for the links.
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> Braun  and are the arabic fonts installed?
[21:40] <zykotick9> ikonia: imagine... nvidia-proprietary is causing issue with a 3 monitor setup ;)
[21:40] <OerHeks> greenut have fun
[21:41] <greenut> OeHes: They're untrusted PPA by adding ppa:mactel-support/ppa….  Mind if I ask if its safe?
[21:42] <Braun> MonkeyDust: where can i check it out?
[21:42] <greenut> OerHeks: They're untrusted PPA by adding ppa:mactel-support/ppa….  Mind if I ask if its safe?
[21:42] <OerHeks> greenut sure, it is mentioned in the comunity pages, not just some user solution
[21:43] <greenut> Okay.
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> Braun  open gedit > edit > preferences
[21:44] <ikonia> zykotick9: more so with two cards
[21:44] <rhagu1> hi, I installed ubuntu once via ubuntu-12.04.3-mini-amd64.iso and another time via ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso the first time it installs 3.2 the second time 3.8 kernel, how can this be? both are supposed to be 12.04.3?
[21:44] <zykotick9> ikonia: true
[21:46] <lattera> alright, kde4 supports three X sessions very very nicely
[21:46] <lattera> my triple-monitor setup is 100% complete :)
[21:46] <kostkon> rhagu1, maybe the mini iso doesn't follow the lts policy for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:46] <ruena> my newly 13.04 is not shutiing down, get /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket file: No such file or directory
[21:47] <Braun> font is set to monoscape .the sys.fixed width font is ticked
[21:47] <lattera> ah, but it looks like I don't have compositing :(
[21:47] <rhagu1> kostkon are there still security updates for 3.2?
[21:48] <kostkon> rhagu1, obviously. all these kernels are supported don't worry
[21:48] <bwayne> quit
[21:48] <Fyodorovna> raghu1, who knows, why does it matter, things happen.
[21:48] <rhagu1> ok, then I wont bother
[21:48] <Braun> MonkeyDust: font is set to monoscape .the sys.fixed width font is ticked
[21:49] <cleerline> Anyone in here get saints row 4 to run under wine?
[21:49] <zykotick9> cleerline: try #winehq for wine questions
[21:49] <kostkon> rhagu1, stay with 3.2 if don't care. otherwise follow the instructions on the wiki page to install the 3.8 raring kernel
[21:49] <rhagu1> kostkon ok, I will
[21:52] <ruena> how do I log upstart activity on shutdown?
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> Braun  un-check that and click on monoscape, is arabic in the list
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> ?
[21:53] <speedracr> when i ctrl+alt+{f1,f2,f3,etc} i don't get the text console in 12.04 LTS
[21:53] <gert-jan> good evening.. (for european)
[21:53] <zykotick9> speedracr: have you install out of repo binary graphics drivers?
[21:54] <gert-jan> quick question? How can i find out what version of ubuntu this machine has?
[21:54] <speedracr> zykotick9: yeah, proprietary drivers, only way i could get good resolution
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  lsb_release -sd
[21:54] <zykotick9> gert-jan: "lsb_release -a"
[21:54] <zykotick9> speedracr: good luck then.  i consider your install broken.  don't reply to me, i won't see it.
[21:54] <kostkon> gert-jan, or system settings -> details
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  or cat /etc/issue :-)
[21:55] <speedracr> no wonder so many people install ubuntu then promptly remove it
[21:55] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: /etc/issue can be modified, lsb_release is way better.
[21:55] <Braun> MonkeyDust: it's unchangable,no other option can b activated and i can't c the other options in the list
[21:56] <gert-jan> MonkeyDust, zykotick9, kostkon, thanks.. i'll try this..
[21:57] <gert-jan> yep.. like I thought.. 13.04..
[21:58] <gert-jan> So in october the new version will ship.. Is this a LTS? and what version will it be?
[21:58] <bekks> gert-jan: 13.10 wont be a LTS, the next LTS will be 14.04
[21:58] <zykotick9> gert-jan: 13.10, no it isn't lts.
[21:59] <zykotick9> gert-jan: ubuntu version numbers are dates.  13 is year, next the month.  4=april 10=oct twice a year.  every 2 years is LTS on the 04.
[21:59] <raj> do you guys use 7zip? or is there another preferred software for this?
[21:59] <gert-jan> so.. bekks, zykotick9 , would you recommend an absolute beginner to upgrade to 13.10.. or would you recommend to wait for the LTS?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Braun  odd... open libreoffice writer, is arabic in the drop down menu?
[22:00] <bprompt> raj:   preferred for?
[22:00] <raj> extracting compressed files
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  13.10 isn't ready yet
[22:00] <gert-jan> zykotick9, Whahah... its kinda obvious now i know.. but i never realised that... whahahaha
[22:00] <raj> on windows, I feel like 7zip is the vlc of compressed files
[22:01] <zykotick9> gert-jan: personally, if you want to use ubuntu, i'd recommend you backup your files and fresh install every release, and always use the latest (but NOT development version of ubuntu).  but, i don't use ubuntu anymore.
[22:01] <bekks> gert-jan: I's suggest staying at 12.04, and _possibly_ upgrade to 14.04.
[22:02] <zykotick9> bekks: lts->lts update are ... ummmm... i don't have a nice word.
[22:02] <kostkon> raj, just install the p7zip package and then use the default archive manager which is just a gui frontend to various compression utlitilies.
[22:02] <bprompt> raj:   hmm well.... there are many compression formats, 7zip covers most, with the exception of a few like .rar and .ace maybe or .arj   other than that, 7zip works fine, then I also have rar/unrar installed too
[22:02] <bekks> zykotick9: Yeah :)
[22:02] <raj> oh, 7zip on windows handles rar I think
[22:03] <Braun> MonkeyDust: MonkeyDust ,yes it is
[22:03] <gert-jan> zykotick9, What do you use then.. (if i may ask)
[22:03] <zykotick9> gert-jan: doesn't matter.  use what YOU want!
[22:03] <kostkon> raj, then also install either the rar or the p7zip-rar package.
[22:03] <bprompt> raj:     can't recall, I have it on win64.... I think so... not as good as winrar though
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Braun  ok, that's something, can you write arabic in Writer?
[22:04] <Braun> nope,MonkeyDust
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Braun  can you not select arabic?
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Braun  open translate.google.com, can you write arabaic there?
[22:06] <OerHeks> logout, change keyboard to Arabicand login ?
[22:06] <gert-jan> zykotick9, That's the thing.. I expect our schooldistrict to downgrade their funds.. I want to be ready when that happens.. And know EVERYTHING about linux by then.. (and offcourse.. show off to the girls)
[22:07] <Braun> MonkeyDust:  nope
[22:07] <zykotick9> gert-jan: <ot> oh man, that was funny </ot>
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> Braun  then i'm out of ideas, maybe someone else can help
[22:12]  * gert-jan checks if the same irc operators work like it was in the old days..
[22:12]  * gert-jan is pleased to know they are.
[22:12] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i was personally happy i could paste the arabic output into urxvt correctly http://imagebin.org/271498
[22:13] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: fyi, that should say "this is google translation of english to arabic"
[22:14] <zykotick9> anyone running gnome-termianal, try above, and tell me if it works ;)  please?
[22:16] <Braun> zykotick9: this is clever  except that it goes in the opposite direction
[22:16] <Guest71940> someone can help me to install the wireless driver on my laptop with ubuntu 12.04 on the console step by step ? with graphic options it sdont work....
[22:16] <OerHeks> Braun, maybe you should have started selecting arabic during install?
[22:17] <Braun> OerHeks:  i already have
[22:17] <UrielVigilant> someone can help me to install the wireless driver on my laptop with ubuntu 12.04 on the console step by step ? with graphic options it sdont work....
[22:17] <blurk> can some one recomend a good editor with syntax highligtning? I was recomended one some days ago but can not remember the name :(
[22:17] <jrib> blurk: gedit
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Identify the wireless hardware and address the issue for help.
[22:18] <UrielVigilant> how  do i do that Wilee-nilee , iam newby on ubuntu i dont know commands nothing
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Cool, run lspci in the terminal to find the wireless info, if it is a usb run lsusb.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> and tell the channel not me
[22:19] <UrielVigilant> its ubuntu usb
[22:20] <UrielVigilant> ok
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, I mean the if the wireless is a usb device, is this a live enviroment or a actual install on a usb?
[22:21] <UrielVigilant> its ubuntu persitent on pen drive, and wireless is built in the laptop
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Cool, that persistent has a limited use, so be aware of that run lspci to identify the wifi info.
[22:22] <UrielVigilant> wath it is lspci, how can i find terminal on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, in unity top button brings up dash type terminal or ctrl-alt-t
[22:23] <urzg> hey wilee-nilee
[22:23] <UrielVigilant> ok its poen the terminal already
[22:23] <UrielVigilant> its open already.
[22:24] <UrielVigilant> now i write lspci doens it ?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, type lspci and find the wireless info and post it.
[22:24] <UrielVigilant> ok
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, you can use tab to complete nicks here when you are talking to a person, makes things easier to follow.
[22:25] <bwayne> blurk: sublime is a good editor as well.
[22:26] <reisio> blurk: what editor are you used to?
[22:27] <root_> hello
[22:27] <blurk> reisio, bwayne I have no old preferences. I want a simple editor with auto-indent and that highlights php and other languages
[22:27] <root_> asd
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[22:27] <root_> testn
[22:27] <root_> test
[22:27] <root_> test
[22:27] <FloodBot1> root_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> sorry
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | UrielVigilant start here.
[22:27] <bprompt> blurk:    for webdev?
[22:27] <bwayne> blurk: well gedit and sublime are both good. you already have gedit, so check it out. check the plugins pane. :)
[22:27] <blurk> bprompt, mostly
[22:28] <blurk> bwayne, but do it have auto-indent?
[22:28] <bprompt> blurk:    I use Quanta plus, which is really an IDE
[22:28] <blurk> gedit that is
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Thats about the most I can do is offer that wiki, but use that broadcom info for getting help otherwise.
[22:29] <reisio> blurk: gedit probably does that, geany does
[22:29] <bprompt> hmmm, I prefer geany over gedit myself
[22:29] <UrielVigilant> i will try alone, any problem i will back here
[22:29] <UrielVigilant> thank you
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, cool, good luck. ;)
[22:29] <reisio> usually text editors made by people who make DEs turn out kind of... inferior :)
[22:29] <reisio> although IIRC kate is the most popular text editor after Vim and Emacs
[22:30] <bprompt> hehe
[22:30] <t4nk350> how to download forbidden files using wget in ubuntu?
[22:30] <reisio> but a little inappropriate for GNOME/Unity
[22:30] <reisio> t4nk350: forbidden?
[22:30] <bprompt> quanta plus uses Kate, which is also a terrific text editor
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> reisio, oooh, broad generalizations. ;)
[22:30] <tsquar3d> Yo. Does anyone know of a version of ubuntu (or any other linux distro) with signed efi that will run on a 32-bit intel atom processor?
[22:31] <t4nk350> i can download this file using Internet Download Manger (IDM) with wine  http://epaper.thehindu.com/pdf/2013/09/07/20130907A_008103.pdf
[22:31] <bwayne> blurk: i'm not seeing auto-indent out of the box. maybe i can find a plugin. sorry.
[22:32] <bekks> t4nk350: Why dont you just download it, without wine, etc.
[22:32] <reisio> tsquar3d: any?
[22:32] <blurk> bwayne, nevermind. I will try bluefish. thanks anyway
[22:33] <tsquar3d> reisio: UEFI?
[22:33] <reisio> uefi
[22:33] <bprompt> blurk:   http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/real_programmers.png    =)
[22:35] <tsquar3d> reisio: None of the 32-bit ubuntu buids I have found support UEFI. :-/
[22:35] <t4nk350> i tried to download the file with Firefox
[22:36] <blurk> bprompt, :)  I have tried emacs before. not my cup of tee
[22:36] <OerHeks> tsquar3d, no, only ubuntu 64 bit works with UEFI.
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: they probably do, even if it's more work
[22:36] <troutwine> I'm trying to install 13.04 on a Macbook Pro Retina but when I boot from the optical install disk all I get is a blinking cursor. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: what's the processor?
[22:36] <troutwine> Google has failed to turn up anything super useful.
[22:36] <tsquar3d> reisio: Well, I have turned secure booting off and no dice.
[22:36] <tsquar3d> It's a 32-bit intel atom.
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: what model?
[22:37] <tsquar3d> reisio: Not sure... the computer is an HP Envy x2
[22:37] <OerHeks> troutwine, did you check the mactel pages?
[22:37] <OerHeks> !mac
[22:37] <troutwine> OerHeks: I have, but the problem is only discussed _after_ installation.
[22:38] <reisio> tsquar3d: that the full model? check the bottom
[22:38] <OerHeks> troutwine, with nomodeset in the grub line?
[22:39] <troutwine> I don't get far enough to have grub. At least, not that I can tell.
[22:39] <bwayne> blurk: cool. never had heard of it. it looks pretty nice. happy hunting!
[22:39] <troutwine> OerHeks: Boot goes from Bootcamp switcher thing to a momentary black screen then straight to infinite blinking cursor.
[22:40] <tsquar3d> reisio: Well, the chip is a Z2760
[22:40] <mrrcp> rm -rf
[22:41] <reisio> tsquar3d: mmm
[22:41] <mrrcp> ceed^: what atx
[22:42] <tsquar3d> reisio: Yeah, I was trying to use the ubuntu 64-bit versions -- but then realized that it needs something with ia32
[22:43] <reisio> tsquar3d: I'm pretty sure you can use that shim, for example, with any distro
[22:43] <tsquar3d> reisio: Okay... never used shim... have heard of it... but never used it.
[22:44] <bwayne> troutwine: I used to use rEFIt when I wanted to multibook on a Mac. It might help you out. http://refit.sourceforge.net/
[22:44] <troutwine> bwayne: I don't have OSX on this machine to install rEFIt.
[22:44] <bwayne> troutwine: ah. ok. sorry.
[22:44] <troutwine> No worries. I recognize that's unusual.
[22:47] <troutwine> Interestingly, Debian installation boots okay but it completely fails to install EFI boot manager properly.
[22:47] <troutwine> Arch Linux sorta works, or, at least, it did a few days ago but not efibootmgr segfaults after a version update. :/
[22:47] <troutwine> s/not/now/
[22:50] <OerHeks> troutwine, one way to work around no OSX on the machine, is installing osx on an external hdd and use rEFIt that way
[22:51] <troutwine> I don't have an OSX installation disk anywhere. :)
[22:51] <troutwine> I have no option for OSX use, in short.
[22:51] <fizzle> how 2 ubunto installation ???
[22:51] <mrrcp> !install
[22:52] <fizzle> i like the obuntu
[22:52] <Ari-Yang> lol ^
[22:53] <tsquar3d> WIndows 8 is the worst thing since 9/11.
[22:53] <mrrcp> wow
[22:53] <mrrcp> really
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> !ot | tsquar3d
[22:53] <delinquentme> how to configure a python script to always run on startup?
[22:54] <njsg> where?
[22:54] <mrrcp> !guidelines
[22:55] <tsquar3d> Sigh.
[22:55] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: why is that
[22:55] <mrrcp> you having issues
[22:55] <troutwine> Oh hey, 13.10 install CD boots correctly.
[22:55] <troutwine> That's promising.
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> troutwine, 13.10 is on #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <tsquar3d> Sorry... *sarcasm* UEFI is just swell... I'm so happy about it. */sarcasm*
[22:56] <jrib> !startup | delinquentme
[22:56] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: ahh yes
[22:56] <OerHeks> delinquentme, type start in dash, add it to startup applications
[22:56] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: i hate it
[22:56] <troutwine> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[22:56] <seed_> hi
[22:56] <mrrcp> it took me a good hour to figure it out
[22:57] <tsquar3d> Well, mrrcp, I have been fighting with it for days now -- ia32 with UEFI...
[22:57] <mrrcp> whats your issue again?
[22:58] <kingplusplus> hi guys, am wondering how do i stop my system from consuming bandwidth when am idle? Example, i may sleep off while chatting here but my system would consume bandwidth as the chat continues on the screen
[22:58] <tsquar3d> mrrcp: Well, I need a signed UEFI distro for ia32.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> A bit hard to find.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> But I am going to try ubuntu 32-bit with reFIND and see what I can do.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> tsquar3d: !OT
[22:58] <troutwine> kingplusplus: Suspend the computer?
[22:58] <mrrcp> what device are you attempting to install it on?
[22:59] <kingplusplus> troutwine, yes something like that
[22:59] <delinquentme> it looks like I want /etc/rc.local
[22:59] <tsquar3d> mrrcp: hp envy x2
[22:59] <mrrcp> ah
[22:59] <delinquentme> jrib, OerHeks  ^^
[23:01] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136763
[23:01] <mrrcp> have u read that?
[23:02] <bwayne> kingplusplus: there's the option of using System Settings > Power > Suspend and setting it to 15 minutes or so.
[23:03] <kingplusplus> bwayne, thanks
[23:03] <kingplusplus> bwayne, wasn't sure if it would do it, would watch and see
[23:04] <bwayne> kingplusplus: works for me (TM)  :)
[23:05] <NINJA> CIAO
[23:06] <NINJA> !LISTA
[23:06] <dtcrshr> tigran https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[23:06] <rhagu1> I am about to partition a virtual block device, which is 2TB in size but might get larger over time, I would like to format it with ext4. Should I use a gpt partition due to the size?
[23:08] <bekks> rhagu1: yes.
[23:08] <sarahS> What's the easiest way to create a fully bootable backup of my main ubuntu HD?
[23:08] <sarahS> Is there something similar to Carbon Copy Cloner available?
[23:09] <rhagu1> bekks can a block device with gpt partition table later be increased in size?
[23:09] <bekks> rhagu1: sure.
[23:09] <rhagu1> bekks great, thanks
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> sarahS, clonezilla is a nice imager
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> saves in packets though for reinstall
[23:11] <urzg> hi all
[23:11] <urzg> Anyone here use xchat?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> urzg, many state the problem
[23:12] <sarahS> wilee-nilee: so, if you have a system failure, you would have to boot from a cd / dvd to restore?
[23:12] <mrrcp> anyone know of a way to install ubuntu on a windows surface rt
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> sarahS, with clonezilla yes
[23:12] <mrrcp> that would be a game changer
[23:12] <urzg> Is Xchat have good chat support?
[23:12] <urzg> erm
[23:12] <urzg> themes?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> urzg, #xchat try thesr
[23:12] <OerHeks> mrrcp, that would be arm
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> thee*
[23:13] <mrrcp> yea
[23:13] <OerHeks> !arm
[23:13] <urzg> ok
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> urzg, There are a number of themes all this is available on the web we ask you at least try.
[23:13] <urzg> ah ok
[23:14] <urzg> :)
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:15] <smaudet> ello?
[23:16] <Root1_> join #Trial_Serv1
[23:16] <smaudet> Hey, thanks to whomever suggested the backlight, I'm pretty sure there is a backlight bug, and that's been at least part of my problem.
[23:16] <OerHeks> mrrcp, i read the surface pro can handle ubuntu, the RT needs to yailbreak ?
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, /join #Trial_Serv1
[23:17] <smaudet> mrrcp, I think it may have been you
[23:17] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, why?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> Root1_, /join #Trial_Serv1
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, wrong nick, sorry.
[23:17] <smaudet> k
[23:18] <NINJA> CIAO A TUTTI
[23:18] <NINJA> !LISTA
[23:19] <bekks> !it | NINJA
[23:19] <king-crimson> What about under-warez? XD
[23:20] <bekks> king-crimson: For some, they're too tight m(
[23:20] <king-crimson> tighty-whiteys? 8-0
[23:25] <blurk> is it stupid to create an ext4 fs on an usb-memory? it will be used as a simple backup for personal stuff,
[23:28] <chsados> goddamn iphone fanboys creating a line outside the store making people who want to buy real phones wait
[23:29] <cuddylier> Anyone know why this doesn't work? du -sm --max-depth=4 /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers | sort -nr | head -n 20
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> blurk, nah thatbis fine just needs read write is all.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> that is*
[23:30] <cuddylier> du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=4
[23:30] <cuddylier> It just says that
[23:31] <blurk> wilee-nilee, thanks. forgot about changing owner,
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> chsados, don't swear, and stay on an actual ubuntu topic
[23:36] <smaudet> yay ubuntu 13.04 on efi *slow clap*
[23:36] <smaudet> now to figure out this mess called uefi/windows boot
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, That the 32 bit?
[23:37] <smaudet> 64 bit
[23:37] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, why?
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, I saw a person with a 32  bit earlier thought it was you.
[23:38] <smaudet> no, don't think so
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> I wondered if it was possible is all
[23:38] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, is efi 64 bit exclusive?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, I thought so, not sure is all.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> with a W8 dual
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> good job getting it installed though smaudet
[23:40] <smaudet> I don't really want the w8, the goal was to get something non-windows 8 to boot (check), preferrably on efi (check), its bonus points if I can get it to play nice/figure out the windows 8 part
[23:41] <smaudet> I have secure boot on, but in 'setup mode', whatever that means, also wanted to explore that while I'm dinking around the bios
[23:41] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, thanks, not really much of a feat in the end :P
[23:43] <smaudet> The real effort is thanks to the kernel/efi hackers. :) Although that no-backlight bug is a real gotcha. X_X
[23:44] <smaudet> Cannot believe that turned out to be the problem, went through 4 different installs, and the 'graphics' never worked.
[23:44] <smaudet> Oh well.
[23:44] <eein> is mono defunct?
[23:44] <smaudet> eein, not on windows
[23:44] <smaudet> eein, I think it is on linux though
[23:44] <eein> no on ubuntu/mint
[23:44] <eein> bah
[23:45] <smaudet> eein, they chased him off of linux, or so I hear
[23:45] <smaudet> (the mono developer)
[23:45] <eein> i grabbed mono-complete but it does nothing
[23:45] <tsquar3d> So, I am still having a heck of a time -- I can't find any way to get ubuntu working on ia32 with uefi
[23:45] <eein> and the website is a 403
[23:45] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, there's your 32 bit-er
[23:45] <tsquar3d> smaudet: :-p
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> hehe yeah
[23:45] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I doubt I can help, but what are the symptoms
[23:46] <smaudet> ?
[23:46] <rhagu1> hi I created a gpt partition on a block device and formated it with ext4 but there is a lot of already used space (df -h) although I didnt copy any files onto it: "/dev/vdb1       2,0T    199M  1,9T    1% /me"  what is going wrong?
[23:46] <smaudet> eein, is it?
[23:46] <eein> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight
[23:46] <smaudet> eein, working for me
[23:46] <smaudet> oh
[23:47] <eein> love how the MS site says Linux...check
[23:47] <smaudet> eein, redirects to the other site
[23:47] <smaudet> eein, www.mono-project.com
[23:47] <tsquar3d> Ha. None what so ever. I have an ia32 system that came with windows 8. As far as I know I need an ubuntu build that runs on ia32 with efi support.
[23:47] <tsquar3d> smaudet:
[23:47] <tsquar3d> It makes me sad.
[23:47] <DJones> eein: Found this http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/05/Miguel-Moonlight "Miguel: We have abandoned Moonlight." about half way down the page
[23:48] <smaudet> DJones, sounds about right
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, Have you checked if that is a 64 bit computer per-chance my toshiba was though listed as 32 bit.
[23:48] <kostkon> eein, are you looking for moonlight?
[23:48] <tsquar3d> Yeah, it's certainly an ia32
[23:48] <eein> yeah i thought i heard something about it on /. but my online college course seems to need it, never installed it before
[23:48] <smaudet> eein, what do you need moonlight for?  I've got tightvnc running on my 13.04 server and I connect, but I cannot left click inside any programs
[23:49] <smaudet> Except in Netflix, which ignored Microsoft's memo
[23:49] <tsquar3d> The 32 bit ubuntu distro does not come with efi -- so the computer will not even entertain the idea of booting it...
[23:49] <tsquar3d> And the 64-bit version, of course, will not run on an ia32
[23:49] <kostkon> smaudet, theyll change to html5 soon
[23:49] <Arid> I can left click anything attached to the desktop environment but anything I open like gedit cannot be left clicked in any way
[23:49] <eein> yeah need it for college, oh wel ill figure something else out i guess
[23:49] <kostkon> smaudet, when html5 is 100% ready for drm content that is
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, protest the class
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, they're teaching a dead-in-the-water tool
[23:50] <eein> haha its just the oreintation :-)
[23:50] <kostkon> eein, i just gave you a link
[23:50] <tsquar3d> eein: Where do you go to uni?
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, ask a classmate to take a video and put it up on youtube?
[23:50] <eein> esc.edu
[23:51] <eein> kostkon: looking
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> eein, I had one on line problem with the college I was at just the transfer of papers was it, those system are dated I think in general.
[23:52] <smaudet> kostkon, I'm not sure what 'ready' means, drm has always been broken...
[23:52] <tsquar3d> So... I am probably hosed when it comes to getting efi ubuntu working on ia32?
[23:52] <eein> kostkon: thanks for the ppas
[23:52] <kostkon> smaudet,  to playback drm content*
[23:52] <smaudet> kostkon, I'd have just gone ahead and transfered, and continue like drm always has, fixing bugs as they are found
[23:53] <smaudet> And never really fixing drm :P
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, you could se if you can get a non uefi oem install from the manufacturer, then wipe the HD, make it msdos and you could dual boot.
[23:54] <Arid> anyone at all heard of an issue with being unable to left click while remote controlling ?
[23:55] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee: I'd say fat chance of getting that out of HP, eh?
[23:55] <Arid> the interwebz seems to be clueless. I find absolutely no hits :/
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, I bet they will, you wont know without asking.
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> its not free for a install set is all, cheap though
[23:56] <bekks> How can I hide a specific user from showing up in the list of users in lightdm?
[23:56] <tsquar3d> Hmmmmm......
[23:56] <kostkon> bekks, interesting question..
[23:56] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I was fiddling around with my efi settings and I managed to figure out how to get it to boot non-uefi disks
[23:57] <smaudet> tsquar3d, however that may be dependent on the bios
[23:57] <GogoPogo> hello
[23:57] <smaudet> tsquar3d, while you're asking HP for stuff, I'd badger them about getting an updated bios
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I just google user questions 99% of the time. http://askubuntu.com/questions/92349/how-do-i-hide-a-particular-user-from-the-lightdm-login-screen
[23:57] <tsquar3d> Yeah, smaudet, the bios this computer ships with is pretty restrictive.
[23:58] <smaudet> tsquar3d, barring that perhaps we need bios hackers now ;)
[23:58] <kostkon> bekks, want to hide the guest acc maybe? just wondering
[23:58] <GogoPogo> is there a better chan for off-topic chatting?
[23:58] <tsquar3d> Grumble grumble...
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> GogoPogo, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <smaudet> tsquar3d, who write custom bioses for backwards computer shops
[23:59] <tsquar3d> Yeah... it really sucks.... the bios lets me turn off secure boot -- but that really doesn't do jack squat.
[23:59] <bekks> kostkon: No. I have a user owning all remote backups, and it is not intended to be used regularly.
[23:59] <smaudet> And it apparently is a thing! http://www.bios-mods.com/
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, We have seen people here lately wiping W8 and the HD and going msdos with no problems.
[23:59] <kostkon> bekks, oh
[23:59] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I have no idea but maybe you could look into that if HP isn't gonna be cool.
[23:59] <bekks> Found the solution:  /etc/lightdm/users.conf  -> [UserAccounts] -> hidden-users=
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, with the bios set as legacy


[18:06] <lyam[m]> Anyone else having issues with renaming a file and having the progress dialog pop-up after the naming already happened so the dialog just stays there?
[18:06] <lyam[m]> This is in 18.04 LTS ubuntu