[14:39] <Yn5an3> There is a comment that elaborates on the compatibility and says: libc5 and "glibc 2.0/2.1 use the same format.  For glibc 2.2 another format has been added in a compatible way"
[14:39] <DJones> tristanStrange: I'm on 14.04, screen display has an option to have the unity bar on all screens, or just on the left most screen.  I suspect that if its on both screens, because its hidden, moving the mouse from one screen to another causes it to unhide, causing the delay, if you change it to only show on one screen, does that get rid of the delay
[14:40] <Senor> lvs not working on ubuntu
[14:40] <bekks> Senor: Works perfectly here.
[14:40] <holstein> Senor: lvm?
[14:41] <_2_niqua> hi
[14:41] <n37004> looking for a french ROM
[14:41] <n37004> room
[14:41] <_2_niqua> ok
[14:41] <cfhowlett> !fr|n37004
[14:41] <bekks> !fr | n37004
[14:41] <n37004> thanks
[14:41]  * cfhowlett wondered about the ROM for a moment
[14:42] <Yn5an3> Ubuntu currently uses glibc-2.19, so I'm not really sure how should I handle the issue. I need the format in order to relolve SONAMES found in the .dynamic section of an elf marked with DT_NEEDED, that is to say, linker dependencies.
[14:42] <Yn5an3> It's pretty surprising that there's no clear interface for that.
[14:43] <tristanStrange> boom! DJones - that's got thinks working nicely!
[14:43] <DJones> tristanStrange: You're welccome, glad its sorted
[14:43] <tristanStrange> somehow never spotted the option to diable the dash on a particular screen. Thanks!
[14:44] <Yn5an3> I basically want something like ldd, but for a different putpose. So I was trying to figure ld.so.cache's format in Ubuntu.
[14:44] <Yn5an3> Man, I sure explain things bad...
[14:45] <Senor> bekks:lvs ?
[14:45] <Senor> holstein:linux virtual server
[14:45] <chro> every time I boot into my vm with ubuntu I see the message "System program problem detected". Where can I get details about this problem? In what log file should I look
[14:45] <Senor> bekks:it does not route request to real server ,
[14:46] <vmmusr> ideas how to rotate fglrx monitors withoth xrandr (using xorg.conf and xinerama) ?
[14:46] <bekks> Senor: What?
[14:47] <bekks> lvs doesnt route anything at all and has nothing to do with virtualization at all.
[14:47] <bekks> lvs is supposed to display logical volumes.
[14:47] <Senor> bekks: I mean linux virtual server cluster
[14:47] <Yn5an3> Well, thanks anyways, bye.
[14:47] <bekks> Senor: lvs has nothing to do with clusters whatsoever.
[14:48] <tristanStrange> god damn it. it still gets stuck occasionally
[14:48] <bekks> Senor: It just displays logical volumes.
[14:48] <chro> this last version of ubuntu still uses X11?
[14:48] <module000> Senor isn't talking about LVS as in display LV's in VG's comprised of PV's. He's asking about LVS in the context of virtual servers, which are all expliceitely designed for clustering services
[14:48] <tristanStrange> the exertion i'm putting in to getting from screen to screen is going to result in this mouse flying somewhere soon, possibly the loss of an arm too.....
[14:48] <bekks> chro: Yes.
[14:49] <vmmusr> chro: yes :(
[14:49] <chro> ko
[14:49] <module000> Senor: they don't know what you're talking about, LVS isn't the type of "virtualization" these guys use. That's more of a i-make-$$$-with-linux not i-play-games-woohoo-ubuntu
[14:49] <bekks> module000: How do you know which type of virtualization I am using...? :P
[14:50] <bekks> module000: Or even which clustering solution I am using?
[14:50] <module000> bekks: you had no idea what he was talking about, it's a safe assumption.
[14:50] <bekks> module000: Its a safe assumption that you havent heard of SFHA then, too.
[14:51] <module000> bekks: i get paid to work on HA daemons - so your assumption is wrong.
[14:51] <module000> bekks: i didn't realize people were deploying new LVS clusters though, pacemaker/coro have kind of taken over that field
[14:51] <bekks> pacemaker is a mess basically, compared with SFHA.
[14:51] <chro> I'm seeing amazon has returned to my ubuntu after upgrade
[14:51] <chro> how can I uninstall it?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> !lenses
[14:52] <chro> and avoid sending my search strings to their servers
[14:52] <module000> SFHA has no man pages, and still targets AIX with linux as "supported but not preferred". that said, i use it at work to manage netbackup geoclusters, it's still in widespread use
[14:52] <chro> sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[14:52] <chro> thanks
[14:53] <cfhowlett> !lens > cfhowlett
[14:53] <bekks> module000: SFHA has man pages. SFHA soes not target AIX, but AIX, Linux, Solaris, HPUX and makes no recommendations on what to use.
[14:53] <bekks> *does
[14:53] <chro> it's unity-scope-home ?
[14:53] <bekks> chro: No.
[14:56] <chro> how do I disable this then?
[14:58] <robotninja> there's an option to "include online search results" in System Settings under Security & Privacy -> Search, wouldn't that do it?
[14:59] <mozzarella> guys
[14:59] <mozzarella> can someone screenshot the screen locker of 14.04 for me? thank you
[14:59] <spippi_> hi at all
[14:59] <bekks> chro: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/how-to-disable-amazon-shopping.html like this e.g.
[14:59] <spippi_> i have a problem with ubuntu 14.04 and nfs
[14:59] <spippi_> i insert in exports file a folder
[14:59] <spippi_> but when i restart service
[15:00] <spippi_> tell me
[15:00] <spippi_> does not support NFS export
[15:00] <spippi_> the folder that i choice
[15:01] <module000> spippi_: did you install the nfs-kernel-server package? is your /etc/exports valid?  start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[15:02] <spippi_> i have installed
[15:02] <spippi_> sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[15:03] <spippi_> but i have an error with portmat tell me
[15:03] <spippi_> select rpcbind
[15:03] <B_Little> hi
[15:04] <spippi_> not use portmap
[15:04] <B_Little> what repository do i need to add to get the latest irssi ? now i only get 0.8.15 in the main repo
[15:04] <module000> spippi_: portmap is required for nfs to work. it sounds like you need to start at the beginning, please see the official documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[15:04] <holstein> B_Little: if they (irssi team) provide a PPA, that would be where i would look first.. do you need the latest?
[15:04] <Rhianne18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bitly.com/1gAh6Jy
[15:05] <Guest999999> I have a problem installing wine on Ubuntu, When I tried to download it, I got this message"The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[15:05] <Guest999999> wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-amd64 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 is to be installed
[15:05] <Guest999999>          Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed"\
[15:05] <Guest999999> What do I do?
[15:05] <B_Little> holstein: i dont NEED the latest but now we have a version of 2010 while the latest is september 2013
[15:05] <holstein> Guest999999: i would purge the ppa, and use the repo provided wine..
[15:06] <holstein> B_Little: if you dont need it, just use the repo version.. it will get patched as necessary for the support contract
[15:06] <spippi_> module000: how do i install this
[15:07] <B_Little> holstein: ok
[15:09] <Guest999999> added the wine repo still got an error.
[15:10] <Guest999999> I also tried using the terminal, still got that error.
[15:10] <ubuntuser13> ubuntu 14.04 64bit  startup is slow ?
[15:10] <holstein> Guest999999: sure.. remove the wine repo, and use the officially supported one
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuser13: im running 64bit trusty, not slow here
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuser13: try quiet splash off to see errors
[15:11] <spippi_> other help
[15:12] <ubuntuser13> lotuspsychje: is this because of dual boot
[15:12] <Guest999999> Can't even download it now..
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntuser13: i dont think so, you should find out what slows down your boot process
[15:13] <holstein> Guest999999: you need to remove the unsupported sources
[15:13] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[15:13] <ubuntuser13> <lotuspsychje: shutdown is much faster than startup boot.i am using
[15:14] <ubuntuser13> amd radeon hd5450 propreity driver.
[15:15] <holstein> ubuntuser13: did you try the open driver?
[15:16] <Guest999999> Did that, but I still get an error.
[15:16] <ubuntuser13> holstein: yes,but no difference .
[15:16] <Guest999999> The error is talking about me not having certain software.
[15:17] <Guest999999> "The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-amd64 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 is to be installed
[15:17] <Guest999999> Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed"
[15:19] <holstein> ubuntuser13: you can try something like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting ..each machine is different.. you could have anything from bad/broken hardware, to misconfiguration, to, just a normal experience with the hardware yo uhave
[15:19] <Bladewolf> How can I stop Ubuntu from locking?
[15:19] <holstein> Guest999999: you need to stop using that unsupported PPA, or ask the maintainers of that PPA for support
[15:19] <holstein> Guest999999: you can use ppa-purge to remove it, and try the included supported wine version
[15:20] <ubuntuser13> holstein: thanks
[15:20] <Bladewolf> Guys?
[15:21] <t4ng0> hello is anyone here?
[15:21] <holstein> Bladewolf: just ask.. and be patient.. we are volunteers, and need details.. ubuntu is not "locking" for everyone by default
[15:21] <Bladewolf> holstein: It locks whenever I leave it inactive for around 10-20mins
[15:21] <holstein> Bladewolf: try disabling the screen locking if you prefer it not locking
[15:21] <Bladewolf> On Windows I can turn this off, but can't find the option in Ubuntu
[15:22] <spippi_> ok i understand the problem
[15:22] <t4ng0> hey is anybody here has an idea on how to install GNOME 2.30.2 On 14.04 LTS? if yes can i ask how?
[15:22] <robotninja> Bladewolf, it's under System Settings -> Brightness & Lock
[15:22] <Bladewolf> And the reason I want to turn this off is because this is a VM with 1gb RAM attached
[15:22] <t4ng0> i dont like the fallback
[15:22] <Bladewolf> Meaning if I let it lock, I have to restart it to unlock it
[15:23] <holstein> Bladewolf: you need not a reason.. just try disable
[15:23] <Bladewolf> Thanks guys
[15:24] <robotninja> t4ng0, you may be interested in the MATE project, which forked Gnome 2: http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/replace_unity_by_mate
[15:24] <Guest999999> I used the command "sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa" but the command does not exist...
[15:24] <Guest999999> Sorry if I seem stupid, but I have only been using ubuntu for 2 weeks.
[15:24] <t4ng0> robotninja: why MATE ?
[15:25] <robotninja> t4ng0, because the old Gnome2 codebase is no longer maintained IIRC
[15:25] <Bladewolf> IIRC ?
[15:25] <t4ng0> yhea IIRC? What is that?
[15:25] <holstein> Guest999999: did you install ppa-purge?
[15:26] <holstein> Guest999999: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[15:26] <robotninja> Bladewolf, t4ng0 , "if I remember correctly"
[15:26] <Bladewolf> Anyway, thanks for the help guys
[15:26] <Guest999999> Thanks.
[15:26] <Bladewolf> robotninja: Ok
[15:26] <t4ng0> oh lol okay
[15:26] <t4ng0> bdw thanks
[15:30] <Guest999999> Still got an error, the same one, so I assume the repo has nothing to do with the problem.
[15:31] <holstein> Guest999999: why are you assuming?
[15:31] <holstein> !ppa
[15:31] <nuno_nunes> !debian
[15:31] <nice_user> hi, how i can stop python3 from saving history! i use ubuntu14
[15:31] <holstein> Guest999999: ppas are not officially supported.. if you are having an issue with that ppa, which you are, you need to either remove it, or ask them for support
[15:32] <holstein> Guest999999: please use pastebin to share *exact* errors, and im sure we can get you back to stock and go from there.. share anything else you may have copy/pasted in from the web that you could have broken your system with, such as the add ppa command you have already ran
[15:34] <anass_> hi
[15:35] <holstein> Guest999999: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa ...then share error messages if any
[15:37] <nice_user> hi, how i can stop python3 from saving history! i use ubuntu1404
[15:38] <holstein> nice_user: try a python specific support channel. if a volunteer knows, they will answer.. cheers
[15:38] <phazz> exit
[15:40] <kikimeter> hi guy, some change my root password on a fresh server
[15:40] <kikimeter> I use rescue mode to log me again on my server
[15:41] <kikimeter> some log are stange
[15:41] <holstein> kikimeter: you likely have a vendor provide version of ubuntu, and not stock ubuntu
[15:41] <holstein> !root | kikimeter
[15:41] <kikimeter> I’m installing my server
[15:41] <kikimeter> the server has 5 hours
[15:41] <kikimeter> All my other servers dont permit root login
[15:41] <holstein> kikimeter: its likely not ubuntu, if you see a root user
[15:42] <kikimeter> Apr 26 17:02:41 alderaan sshd[19482]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for <IP_ADDRESS>.broad.wh.hb.dynamic.163data.com.cn [<IP_ADDRESS>] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[15:42] <kikimeter> I’m here to get explanation, on how the hacker did
[15:42] <holstein> kikimeter: use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for non-support related chat
[15:43] <kikimeter> ??
[15:43] <Guest999999> Here is the results of ppa-purge: http://pastebin.com/9x0a1Bkk
[15:43] <kikimeter> I don’t understand holstein, why should I go on another channel for a ubuntu help ?
[15:44] <Guest999999> Also a more detailed paste of the original error:  http://pastebin.com/2MLSM5Fy
[15:44] <holstein> kikimeter: how can a volunteer assist? what is your support question?
[15:45] <kikimeter> someone change my root password, on a fresh new server during my installation. How he did ? How check the backdoor he installed ?
[15:45] <Guest999999> Sorry disconnected
[15:46] <holstein> kikimeter: likely becuase its not ubuntu, but a vendor provided verison of ubuntu.. ubuntu has no root user
[15:46] <holstein> !root | kikimeter
[15:46] <holstein> kikimeter: you should ask the host provider to be sure
[15:46] <iivvoo> hi
[15:46] <kikimeter> ubuntu has always a root user ?
[15:46] <nightdemon666> Ubuntu does have root user. That statement is untrue
[15:46] <iivvoo> on ubuntu 14.04, if I install postgresql (server, 9.3), should a 'main' cluster be created automatically
[15:46] <iivvoo> ?
[15:47] <holstein> Guest999999: you might want to deal with the other error there about the duplicate sources.. but, the wine ppa is purged, it seems
[15:47] <nightdemon666> All linux systems have a root user, just ubuntu by default is locked account
[15:47] <holstein> nightdemon666: cool.. i'll let you take it from here. but, that is likely not "stock" ubuntu, if there is a root user, as i have seen, on vendor provided ubuntu systems
[15:48] <kikimeter> holstein, on all the ubuntu server I installed, from source and from vendor, I always start with a root password and an ip
[15:48] <Guest999999> Now what should I do? I just want to run a windows program.
[15:48] <nightdemon666> By default the user you installed as has sudo privilages. If you sudo passwd root, you set the password for root user, and it unlocks the account
[15:48] <holstein> Guest999999: running a windows program is not trivial, or easy, or guaranteed in linux
[15:49] <holstein> Guest999999: i suggest using native ubuntu for a while, and get used to it, then, go from there.. you can check wineHQ for specifics about running the particular windows application you are trying to run
[15:50] <nightdemon666> Yeah!  You dont need them. There are alternatives to ;-)
[15:50] <nightdemon666> Lol
[15:50] <kikimeter> here is not the question :( . when I install a server and configure for my need, I always use root password. At the end I use ssh connection
[15:50] <tm202135> #channel list
[15:51] <holstein> kikimeter: sure.. but if its not stock ubuntu, you need to ask the vendor for support.. and take the security issues with the root account being "opened" at install up with them
[15:51] <Guest999999> The program in question is just an indie game, so there would be no specifics... :|
[15:51] <kikimeter> holstein, the vendor is not involve in here
[15:52] <nightdemon666> Best way to run windows programs is NOT wineHQ, if you can avoid it. IMO, running windows in a VM is a better route for running windows programs that you just cant run alternatives to in a linux based system.
[15:52] <holstein> Guest999999: well, the specifics would be, how to run code that is not intended to run on linux
[15:52] <holstein> kikimeter: they are if they are providing a specificly tailored version of ubuntu that is not stock ubuntu
[15:52] <kikimeter> no
[15:52] <holstein> kikimeter: in that case, its not ubuntu that you are using.. its their ubuntu
[15:52] <kikimeter> stop
[15:52] <kikimeter> this is a normal version of ubuntu server
[15:52] <holstein> kikimeter: sure.. i dont mean to be combative.. only accurate
[15:53] <kikimeter> when I download ubuntu and install on my personal server
[15:53] <kikimeter> I have always a root password
[15:53] <holstein> kikimeter: you have a sudo password
[15:53] <bluefox83> i need help with freetuxtv i can't get any channels to load and i believe the problem is that my version of libvlc is too new...how do i downgrade it?
[15:54] <kikimeter> holstein, maybe with 14.10, but I’m sure on ubuntu 13.10 I always use root user
[15:55] <kikimeter> the first five minutes on a server it’s always create a secure user
[15:55] <iivvoo> in other words, is "No PostgreSQL clusters exist; see "man pg_createcluster"" to be expected?
[15:55] <kikimeter> put my ssh key and refuse password connection on ssh
[15:55] <bluefox83> kikimeter: it's been ubuntu's policy from the beginning to not offer a root account for any of their releases, be it desktop or server
[15:55] <holstein> you should not, on stock ubuntu, have a root user after install.. if you do, its likely not stock ubuntu
[15:56] <kikimeter> k
[15:56] <kikimeter> always the same
[15:56] <bluefox83> kikimeter: that's your standard user with sudo access
[15:56] <kikimeter> thank you guys, I’m going to google
[15:56] <basketball> i have dropbox installed and it is stuck on connecting
[15:56] <kikimeter> yes bluefox83
[15:57] <bluefox83> kikimeter: so what's the problem?
[15:57] <kikimeter> that is not my question, my question is how to understand how a hacker change my root password
[15:57] <holstein> basketball: purge, reinstall.. reconnect.. double check credentials.. ask dropbox
[15:57] <dupingping> hey boys
[15:57] <kikimeter> and how to understand what he did on the server with root access
[15:58] <kikimeter> It’s just for learning purpose
[15:58] <tgm4883> kikimeter: could be lots of things. Maybe your password was easy to guess
[15:58] <kikimeter> my server will be reinstalled juste after
[15:58] <kikimeter> my password was: password
[15:58] <kikimeter> sure it was easy
[15:58] <tgm4883> kikimeter: yea, thats how he got in
[15:58] <bluefox83> kikimeter: they would need to have the username and sudo password for that user, then they can do whatever they wanted....
[15:58] <tgm4883> I'd bet money on it
[15:58] <kikimeter> I was just learning how to manage postfix on a sandbox server
[15:59] <kikimeter> I check /var/log/auth.log
[15:59] <kikimeter> POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[15:59] <kikimeter> I’ve got a lot of POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!
[15:59] <holstein> kikimeter: if your password is password.. dont do that..
[15:59] <kikimeter> come one !
[15:59] <bluefox83> ok, i personally refuse to help anyone who uses "password" as their password and then wants to know how they got hacked
[15:59] <kikimeter> it’s a sandbox server
[15:59] <kikimeter> to understand how postfix works
[15:59] <holstein> kikimeter: if you are tring to guess how someone guessed your password when its password.. thats how
[15:59] <kikimeter> stop saying that my server is breakable
[16:00] <tgm4883> kikimeter: if you used "password" as your password and can't figure out how someone got in, then we can't help you
[16:00] <holstein> kikimeter: doesnt matter what it is.. dont use password as a password
[16:00] <kikimeter> It’s for a learning purpose
[16:00] <bluefox83> kikimeter: change your password to something with capital letters and numbers as well as lowercase letters
[16:00] <holstein> kikimeter: then learn... *dont* use password as a password
[16:00] <kikimeter> I don’t use password for my real server
[16:01] <holstein> dont enable the root user..
[16:01] <tgm4883> kikimeter: what is your question?
[16:01] <bluefox83> anyways, i need to know how to downgrade my version of libvlc
[16:01] <kikimeter> try to do some log analysis to understand what the hascker did
[16:01] <bluefox83> anyone have any clues?
[16:01] <robotninja> kikimeter, if you're asking how the hacker got in, I think you already know the answer. If you're trying to figure out what exactly he or she did to your sever once they got in, I think that's probably beyond the remit of this channel.
[16:02] <holstein> bluefox83: you can try in synaptic.. i find its easy in that gui to step back through older repo versions of packages.. but, you can break something else that is depending on that newer version
[16:02] <tgm4883> bluefox83: what version do you want to downgrade it to, and what release are you on?
[16:02] <holstein> kikimeter: try a security channel
[16:02] <kikimeter> thak you robotninja
[16:03] <kikimeter> thank you guys
[16:03] <kikimeter> I will try a security channel
[16:03] <bluefox83> tgm4883: i'm on whatever is most up to date in 14.04
[16:03] <amoeba> I recently upgraded to 14.04 and it seems some logging changed.  I used to have a syslog and auth related logs in /var/logs , but no more.  rsyslogd is running.
[16:04] <bluefox83> i need to try older versions until i find one that works
[16:04] <amoeba> any thoughts?
[16:05] <tgm4883> bluefox83: you will have trouble then, you'll probably need to download and compile older versions
[16:05] <adamcunnington> Hi, python's locale date representation just outputted a format that i'd associate with the US, not the UK - how can i check my pc's location setting that python picks up
[16:05] <IdleOne> !locale
[16:06] <tgm4883> bluefox83: you can install older versions via apt if the older version is in the repos, but since trusty just released I doubt there are many (if any) older versions
[16:06] <adamcunnington> IdleOne: thanks
[16:06] <adamcunnington> IdleOne: i definitely did this but recently updated to 14.04, could it be lost them?
[16:06] <adamcunnington> then*
[16:06] <IdleOne> adamcunnington: anything is possible
[16:06] <bluefox83> tgm4883: i'm wondering why tuxfreetv is in the repo then if the vlc or libvlc version in the repo wont work with it...
[16:06] <suprleg> latr all
[16:07] <bluefox83> since it requires vlc to work
[16:07] <tgm4883> bluefox83: are you getting error messages?
[16:07] <adamcunnington> IdleOne: i just typed locale and everything it outputted was GB specific
[16:07] <tgm4883> !info libvlc
[16:07] <bluefox83> yeah, let me fire it up and show you
[16:07] <adamcunnington> IdleOne: could python be reading something incorrectly? or i guess it's concept of locale format might not be correct
[16:07] <bluefox83> 1info libvlc5
[16:07] <bluefox83> oops
[16:08] <bluefox83> !info libvlc5
[16:08] <IdleOne> adamcunnington: honestly don't know, you could try asking in #python maybe they know
[16:08] <adamcunnington> IdleOne: ok, thanks - will do
[16:08] <tgm4883> bluefox83: it's in universe, so it's possible that it's broken and untested. But lets see the error message
[16:09] <bluefox83> An error occurred while playing channel 'Amazing Facts TV' : http://bglive-w.bitgravity.com/amazingfacts/live/feed01
[16:09] <bluefox83> and then gives a link to report it...problem is i get the same error for every channel
[16:10] <bluefox83> some googling shows that it's the version of libvlc
[16:10] <bluefox83> but i can't find a version number that works for sure
[16:11] <Lucax> Dear ubuntu community, I am fresh in linux and have following questions: 1. does it exist a sort of a dictionary that translate windows language into linux language? 2. is there a dictionary explaining commands for the terminal 3. are there sites suggesting different ways of setting up different neat working enviroments and 4. how much wood does a woodchucker chuck if a woodchucker would chuck wood?
[16:11] <DJones> !manual | Lucax
[16:11] <DJones> !terminal | Lucax The links  here should help with terminal usage,
[16:12] <Lucax> thanks a lot abottu for fast a fulfilling answer
[16:12] <tgm4883> bluefox83: did you find a bug report that says changing libvlc will fix it or are you grasping at straws?
[16:12] <kupo_> herro
[16:12] <bluefox83> tgm4883: i found forum posts from a few different distros
[16:12] <iivvoo> ok
[16:12] <iivvoo> waster enough time
[16:12] <bluefox83> including older versions of ubuntu
[16:12] <iivvoo> going back to ubuntu 12.04
[16:13] <bluefox83> i have had so much trouble with 14.04 :(
[16:13] <tgm4883> bluefox83: ok, well you can find the different versions that are in the repo by doing "apt-cache show libvlc5 | grep Version"
[16:13] <bluefox83> part of it has to do with my laptop, but the rest is driving me bonkers
[16:14] <bluefox83> oh crud, there's only one build version D:
[16:15] <tgm4883> bluefox83: yea, thats what I thought
[16:15] <tgm4883> bluefox83: you'd have to compile from source then
[16:15] <bluefox83> well, i guess it's gonna take some time
[16:15] <Lucax> one more thing, when I look at video tutorials or read documents about how to learn ubuntu it tells me that I have to go to Applications in the top left corner and that there is a sort of a windowsish start button and a panel in the bottom of the screen, for me it says: Activities in the top left and there is no windowsish startish button and no bottom panel? thanks a million for help on this
[16:15] <Lucax> I have 14.4 by the way
[16:16] <DJones> Lucax: I suspect the guides/video's you're looking at are for an old version of Ubuntu, its not been like that for a number of years
[16:17] <iivvoo> I've posted the question to askubuntu as well - perhaps someone there knows. meanwhile I'll retry with 12.04
[16:17] <iivvoo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/455890/does-postgresql-server-setup-a-main-cluster-after-installation-14-04
[16:18] <saiarcot895> Lucax: As a starting point, pressing the start menu key on your keyboard brings up the Dash, from where you can open applications or settings and do some searches (through Unity Lens)
[16:18] <dupingping_> hello
[16:18] <Lucax> DJones, I see. yes I think they were for 12.02. So my ubuntu saying activities in the top with no bottom panel and startish button in the down left is a perfectly sane and perfect 14.04
[16:19] <dupingping_> I had created a app at aspp.ubuntu.com. But It's state is draft.
[16:19] <dupingping_> now what do i do?
[16:20] <Lucax> by the way, is this chat room for Q&A only or a general ubuntu chat room
[16:20] <pwy5> I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 (clean install), with the default encryption, and I'd like to make hibernation work. Is there a newer "how to" than this - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap ? Has anyone done this, with Ubuntu 13 or 14? If so, I'd appreciate any help you can offer.
[16:20] <DJones> !unity | Lucax If its standard Ubuntu you've installed, this link should explain how the interface works,
[16:20] <dupingping_> I had created a app at apps.ubuntu.com. But It's state is draft. now what do i do?
[16:20] <DJones> Lucax: This channel is specifically support only, if you want general chat, we use #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[16:21] <Lucax> thank you
[16:22] <Lucax> #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:22] <DJones> Lucax: Use "/join #ubuntu-offtopic" to join the other channel without the "'s
[16:24] <kensama>  /msg NickServ identify Nao02Ko07
[16:26] <tgm4883> kenws: you probably want to change your password now
[16:26] <tgm4883> err kensama ^
[16:26] <nestle20> LOL
[16:29] <mod> morning all
[16:29] <mod> I used this to downgrade from php5.5 to 5.3: https://extremeshok.com/1280/ubuntu-remove-ppa-package-repository-for-php-5-4-to-downgrade-to-stock-php-5-3/
[16:29] <kensama> tgm
[16:29] <kensama> oui j'arrive plus à savoir comment me connecter erf
[16:29] <mod> it seems to have worked fine, but when I went to install apache2.2-bin it asked if i wanted to reuse my old config files or not (at least i think that's what it was asking)
[16:30] <tgm4883> !fr | kensama
[16:30] <mod> i chose to use the old ones and of course now 5.3 is have a problem with what is probably an unrecognizably new direct ("Mutex")
[16:30] <kensama> yes
[16:30] <kensama> sorry
[16:30] <kensama> i don't remeber how to log in
[16:30] <mod> i've tried to uninstall and re-install apache2.2-bin to get the choice again and reuse my old files which i backed up
[16:31] <mod> but that didn't work; i didn't get the choice again
[16:31] <kensama> i have the command but don't remeber how to proceed
[16:31] <mod> sorry, to NOT reuse my old files
[16:31] <tgm4883> kensama: you did it right, but you must have added a space before the slash.
[16:31] <mod> any ideas how to fix this?
[16:31] <tgm4883> kensama: when you add a space before it, it doesn't think it's a command and posts it to the channel
[16:31] <Deihmos> is there a way to install ubuntu and use the windows 8 bootloader instead?
[16:32] <mod> Deihmos, i dont think so
[16:32] <kensama> identify is my pseudo or i let identify and enter my password
[16:32] <kensama> ?
[16:32] <Deihmos> i was ble to do this with windows 7
[16:33] <tgm4883> !identify
[16:33] <mod> oh, perhaps you can then.  i dont know mucha bout windows
[16:33] <tgm4883> !identify | kensama
[16:35] <kensama> don't work
[16:36] <kensama> i have no server window i am on X-chat gnome
[16:36] <tgm4883> kensama: the server window would be probably the top level in the tree there. I think it probably says Ubuntu or Freenode
[16:36] <_cyan> hello all, how to save image file of screenshot to pbm format?
[16:37] <Lucax> does 14.04 have unity?
[16:37] <tgm4883> Lucax: yes
[16:37] <Gnarly> Hello everyone I wondered if anyobne had some insight on moving files using an external drive from windows to linux. I know that ntfs is supported through ntfs-3g but does anyone think that using the ext2/3 and the installable file system for windows to read/write ext would be better?
[16:38] <ikonia> Gnarly: the ext module for windows should not be trusted at all
[16:38] <dw1> am getting constant disk activity when im not doing anything and the hd noise is driving me crazy... it's not log files, i checked with tail -f `find /var/log/* -name \*log`.  it seems to be related to kworker or jdb2, which show up at the top of iotop every second or so http://pastebin.com/gBSX1des. am on 14.04
[16:39] <mod> dw1, try dmesg
[16:39] <mod> sounds like your disk is failing
[16:39] <ikonia> not at all
[16:39] <ikonia> doesn't sound like a disk failure at all
[16:39] <mod> depends on the noise
[16:40] <james0610> hi chase
[16:40] <Gnarly> ikonia: really? huh well then I guess I'll have to split archives in 4gb or just stick with ntfs.
[16:40] <mod> you could try using iotop
[16:40] <ikonia> Gnarly: why split the archive into 4gb
[16:40] <ikonia> mod: he's just pasted the output of iotop
[16:41] <Gnarly> ikonia: currently my external HDD is formated fat32, max file size is 4gb on that fs
[16:41] <ikonia> Gnarly: yeah, so you're moving it to ntfs....so why 4gb
[16:41] <mod> *shrug*, sorry wasnt here for the whole question i suppose
[16:41] <mod> was trying to solve me own :p
[16:42] <Snyperskywalker> Bonsoir
[16:43] <Gnarly> ikonia: because I was doing research on what fs to use on it to move stuff. Currently was using fat32 on my older one and my newer one has ntfs
[16:45] <Lucax> how to enter unity and starting tweaking about, or am I allready on it or how does it work?
[16:45] <ikonia> how to enter unity ?
[16:45] <ikonia> unity is the desktop you see
[16:45] <ikonia> so if you are logged into an ubuntu machine- you are using unity
[16:45] <dioioib> unless you are running server with out gui
[16:46] <dioioib> then you might need to setup lightdm manually
[16:46] <Guest60000> hallo i new user ubuntu 14.04, i use tp-link model TL-WN8200ND cannot support my ubuntu but windows 8.1 can. please help me
[16:47] <fa7ad> Guest60000: what exactly is not supported by your model?
[16:47] <Guest60000> my model tp-link i cannot sure
[16:48] <dioioib> Guest600000: there is a forum post about that model here for older versions of ubuntu.
[16:48] <dioioib> and here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2148130
[16:49] <Guest60000> i use new ubuntu 13.10 and 14.04 is not working
[16:49] <dioioib> and here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2151599
[16:49] <fa7ad> Guest60000: dude where are u from? dont take it offensively
[16:50] <ordipass> hey!
[16:50] <ordipass> des français?
[16:50] <tgm4883> !fr | ordipass
[16:51] <kensama> i succed
[16:51] <kensama> succeed*
[16:51] <ordipass> french?7
[16:52] <PierreZ> ordipass: tu devrais passer sur le channel unbuntu-fr
[16:53] <Lucax> once again, how can I simply start using unity, I want to set up my desktop and such but when I put unity in the search bar nothing appears? can someone please explain?
[16:54] <ikonia> Lucax: are you using ubuntu yes/no
[16:54] <Lucax> yes
[16:54] <calju16> hey al
[16:54] <ikonia> Lucax: have you logged into the default desktop yes/no
[16:54] <Lucax> yes
[16:54] <ikonia> Lucax: then you are using unity - the desktop experience is unity
[16:54] <ikonia> Lucax: it's not an application you load, it's the whole desktop
[16:54] <fa7ad> Lucax: the search bar itself is part of unity
[16:55] <Lucax> aha! good good, I am improving
[16:55] <fa7ad> Lucax: but i'm confused. are you talking about the game developement stuff unity?
[16:56] <Lucax> I am talking about quote: A powerful desktop and netbook environment things brings consistency and elegance to the Ubuntu experience.
[16:56] <fa7ad> Lucax: well then you are in it. but i suggest you try out KDE
[16:56] <ikonia> Lucax: you're already using it then
[16:57] <ikonia> fa7ad: that is just uncalled for
[16:57] <WenbinWang> logout
[16:57] <ikonia> fa7ad: he didn't ask for desktop experience opinions, he asked how to use unity, so from someone asking that basic a question, do you really feel pushing him at other desktops is a wise move
[16:57] <Lucax> and how to get into KDE, I heard KDE is smooth like a silk glove
[16:57] <ikonia> Lucax: forget kde
[16:57] <dioioib> it is not easy to install if you are new
[16:57] <ikonia> Lucax: it's a different desktop environment, take baby steps, learn to use what you've got first
[16:57] <fa7ad> Lucax: open terminal and enter: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[16:58] <ikonia> Lucax: do not do that
[16:58] <ikonia> fa7ad: stop
[16:58] <dioioib> stop
[16:58] <fa7ad> ikonia, sorry but he asked for it. but im stopping anyway
[16:58] <dioioib> Lucax: don't do that please.
[16:58] <ikonia> fa7ad: no he didn't ask for it
[16:58] <ikonia> fa7ad: you pushed it randomly on him
[16:58] <Lucax> ok ok, thanks for your opposing opinions, I will consider both, Ikonias today, maybe fa7ads another day
[16:59] <fa7ad> ikonia, i quote "and how to get into KDE, I heard KDE is smooth like a silk glove"
[16:59] <ikonia> fa7ad: because you pushed it on him
[16:59] <dioioib> meh KDE is ok more like windows.
[16:59] <fa7ad> ok im sorry bro.
[16:59] <fa7ad> chill
[16:59] <dioioib> Unity is ok. I perfer gnome personally but it is not easy to setup and there is really no logical reason to install it. No real advantage
[16:59] <Lucax> ok ok, it is ok, all is well, I am ok, I dont feel pushed, not even the slightest but I admire your concern, that is beautifuol
[17:01] <fa7ad> ikonia, dont get angry. but how long have you been online. you seem... idk angry. perhaps you are tired. chill man
[17:01] <ikonia> fa7ad: I'm not angry in the slightest
[17:01] <Lucax> wait a minute, I have installed Ubuntu Gnome, then it means I have gnome and not unity, or does Ubuntu Gnome come with unity?  I guess. I just downloaded the most easiest avaliable one on the main ubuntu site, the new one 14.04
[17:02] <ikonia> Lucax: where did you get the install media you used
[17:02] <ikonia> Lucax: ubuntu.com ?
[17:02] <fa7ad> Lucax, which site did you download from
[17:02] <Lucax> yes
[17:02] <ikonia> Lucax: then it's unity
[17:02] <dioioib> yeah it has to be unity.
[17:02] <raalex> can you just post a screen shot
[17:02] <raalex> then maybe we could tell you :=
[17:02] <raalex> :)
[17:02] <fa7ad> yes ubuntu.com gives unity.
[17:02] <Lucax> hahaha, that brings me to the next question, how do I screenshoot?
[17:03] <fa7ad> press printscr key, Lucax
[17:03] <Lucax> that was easy
[17:03] <trijntje> !paste
[17:04] <fa7ad> Lucax, now upload the pic and give us the link
[17:05] <Lucax> http://imagebin.org/307619
[17:06] <Lucax> and it is....
[17:06] <fa7ad> you are on GNOME 3
[17:06] <Lucax> ok, thank you
[17:07] <Lucax> it seem like a very simple version with less possiblities to play around with the apperance and such, is that so? very fucntional, in fact I can do all I need to do
[17:07] <fa7ad> but how come you got Ubuntu Gnome from ubuntu.com, Lucak
[17:07] <fa7ad> but how come you got Ubuntu Gnome from ubuntu.com, Lucax
[17:08] <Lucax> wait a minute, maybe I am mistaken, let me check
[17:08] <theicnb> Hi all, I recently bought a lenovo g510 that came with windows 8. I removed it, and made a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04. Only problem is really weak wifi strength. Anyone encountred it?
[17:09] <fa7ad> theincb, what wifi card does ur pc use?
[17:09] <Lucax> I went here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[17:09] <holstein> theicnb: not with that particular hardware, but, yes,one can encounter different hardware support in different operating systems utilizing different drivers.. what wifi chipset?
[17:09] <holstein> !wifi | theicnb
[17:10] <fa7ad> theincb, might be worth checking for Proprietary Drivers for the card
[17:10] <theicnb> fa7ad: Atheros. I'll check the exact model.
[17:11] <ordipass> french?
[17:11] <holstein> theicnb: look for and apply all upgrades as well.. a kernel upgrade can make or break driver support like that
[17:12] <fa7ad> ordipass: no parle Francais
[17:12] <fa7ad> ordipass: /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:12] <theicnb> I'll do that. Just saw on their website that lenovo "recommends windows", which kinda irritates / freaks me out lol.
[17:12] <Noiro> anyone know an updated list of Unity keyboard shortcuts?
[17:12] <holstein> theicnb: ? the machine came with windows..
[17:13] <trijntje> Noiro: hold the windows/super key a few seconds
[17:13] <theicnb> Yeah, but it is common practice around here. Some aren't even geniune copies.
[17:14] <fa7ad> Lucax, it should look like this http://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/1036/u/img/desktop/image-fordevelopers.jpg are you certain you didnt go to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/14.04/release/ ??
[17:14] <Noiro> o.O That's new
[17:14] <monty_hall> trying to install mediawiki
[17:14] <monty_hall> when I "http://localhost/mediawiki" it says access is forbidden
[17:14] <monty_hall> this is for ubuntu 13
[17:14] <fa7ad> monty_hall, isn't that apache related?
[17:14] <monty_hall> I did a2enconf media
[17:15] <monty_hall> mediawiki
[17:15] <fa7ad> monty_hall, try chmod 755 on the folder recursively
[17:15] <theicnb> fa7ad: I ran lshw -C network. It says that it's Atheros AR9485
[17:15] <dioioib> monty_hail: did you chmod your directories ie change the permissions
[17:15] <monty_hall> I didn't because nothing on the offical page said that I had too.
[17:15] <arjun> seen
[17:15] <dioioib> monty_hail: I would check that first as it is a simple fix
[17:16] <monty_hall> in fact, it didn't even mention anything about a2enconf'ing mediawiki either.
[17:16] <fa7ad> monty_hall, try chmod -R 755 /your/directory
[17:16] <monty_hall> maybe it's just a dated article
[17:16] <monty_hall> ok
[17:16] <monty_hall> one sec
[17:16] <fa7ad> monty_hall, if it doesnt work try 777
[17:16] <dioioib> yeah sometimes the devs make assumptions on the reader of the install articles. Just bad writing.
[17:16] <JustAPerson> Hi, anyone know if the environment variable $DISPLAY is supposed to be set by default? Apparently my Ubuntu install doesn't set it and some programs aren't working properly
[17:17] <pisti> sziasztok
[17:17] <fa7ad> JustAPerson: its normally just :0
[17:17] <pisti> én egy kezdő linux felhasználó vagyok
[17:17] <JustAPerson> fa7ad: any idea where I should look to set that? Is it alright to just put that in ~/.bashrc?
[17:18] <fa7ad> JustAPerson: export $DISPLAY=":0"
[17:18] <dioioib> cool what language is that?
[17:19] <fa7ad> dioioib: lol i was thinking the same thing
[17:19] <pisti> az a problémám az, hogy a kijelző méretem max 1024x768 és én ennél nagyobbat szeretnék használni
[17:19] <pisti> hogy tudnám ezt megváltoztatni ?
[17:19] <DJones> !hu | pisti
[17:19] <dioioib> looks like dutch.
[17:19] <Baako> where is the default apache error log path? i have try /etc/httpd and httpd doesn't exist
[17:19] <dioioib> thanks ubottu bot. :)
[17:19] <RickK> Recently upgraded to 14.04 from a clean/fresh install of 13.10.  Now I get a boot error "error: malformed file   Press any key to continue..."  and I've lost the grub splash  screen.  an anyone tell me how to fix these problems (maybe related)? I've tried several suggestions I've found on the web, none worked and "boot-repair" left my PC unbootable. Had to re-install grub to get back to a bootable system.
[17:19] <fa7ad> !en
[17:20] <fa7ad> !fr
[17:20] <fa7ad> neat :)
[17:20] <JustAPerson> fa7ad: all righty, thanks!
[17:20] <dioioib> yeah. the bot is really cool. :)
[17:21] <fa7ad> sad mint channel doesn't allow bots.
[17:21] <fa7ad> bye guys ill be back in a while (changing to mobile)
[17:21] <pisti> köszönöm a magyar linux-os linket!! :)
[17:22] <fa7ad> !de | pisti
[17:23] <fa7ad> oww you said thanks for the hungarian link? lol i thought he was dutch
[17:24] <fa7ad> you're welcome, pisti
[17:25] <Baako> how do i make a folder readable and executable is chmod 700 advisable?
[17:25] <Guest59274> Hi
[17:25] <junka> Hi
[17:26] <Fuchs> Baako: that would be read (4), write (2) and execute (1), only for the owner, though
[17:26] <Fuchs> Baako: just read and execute would be 5
[17:26] <fa7ad> Baako: 700 is not enough 755
[17:27] <Baako> fuchs what is i need to make a group do it? the folder is called advices
[17:27] <Bashing-om> rik-shaw: Trouble shooting grub can be complex - I know ! -, you want to try and boot from grub's command line and see what results ? Is 'buntu the  only OS installed, and how many hard drives do you have ?
[17:29] <orcas333__> #ubuntu-devel
[17:29] <Baako> fa7ad is this the right command sudo chmod 755 -R www-data advices
[17:29] <CyberJacob> Anybody know where I can get the jc42 kernel module?
[17:34] <monty_hall> looks like I have correct permissions.  the error.log file says "[authz_core:error] AH01630: client denied by server configuration"
[17:34] <monty_hall> I'm looking @ this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12140559/error-with-htaccess-and-mod-rewrite
[17:34] <monty_hall> I'm running apache 2.4 apparently
[17:34] <monty_hall> and the conf file looks like it's for 2.2
[17:35] <monty_hall> the stack overflow page says that order/allow has been replaced by require
[17:35] <monty_hall> so I guess I need to roll back to 2.2?
[17:36] <Kurvivor> hello
[17:37] <Kurvivor> i have tried upgrading to latest ubuntu version
[17:37] <Kurvivor> but the process failed
[17:37] <Kurvivor> how can i diagnose the reason for the failure?
[17:37] <Kurvivor> for example, where are upgrade logs?
[17:39] <dd2bo> Hi !
[17:40] <riverloop> Hello
[17:40] <monty_hall> so it looks like ubuntu mediawiki conf file needs to be updated
[17:40] <cyford> For some reason i can not install using easy_install or pip..    Anyone has this issue? http://s17.postimg.org/gln9e8lcv/Screenshot_from_2014_04_26_23_08_33.png
[17:40] <monty_hall> out of the box it's configured for 2.2 and not 2.4
 what exactly is on screenshot?
 what is wrong?
[17:41] <riverloop> Sorry. http://postimg.org/image/zdz4hthqz/
[17:42] <riverloop> The application has two sets of menus
[17:42] <riverloop> No close button. I will take another screenshot.
[17:42] <riverloop> Seems like appmenu-qt has a bug.
[17:43] <riverloop> Hi all, new screenshot.
[17:43] <riverloop> http://postimg.org/image/jtroyayjf/
[17:43] <monty_hall> ahh that's it
[17:44] <Pwnna> does anyone know what these kernel panics mean? http://imgur.com/a/k0asb
[17:44] <monty_hall> how do I request that ubuntu change "order allow,deny & allow from all -> Require all granted"
[17:44] <monty_hall> apparently that's the 2.4 equiv
[17:44] <Pwnna> i'm experiencing a series of them.. last 5 minutes i got 4 of them. can't really boot.
[17:44] <trism> monty_hall: bug 1252764 which ubuntu version? the debian bug says it was fixed in 1:1.19.8+dfsg-2 so should be fixed in 14.04
[17:44] <Pwnna> Xubuntu 14.04
[17:44] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if someone could provide some assistance setting up php5-fpm on an Apache server, Ubuntu 14.04. I am following this page: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM, and it says to load modules/mod_proxy.so and more
[17:44] <monty_hall> argggh! an upgrade
[17:44]  * monty_hall cringes
[17:45] <ThePendulum> However, there is only a mods-enabled/availble directory, each containing .load files rather than .so files. Are those the ones I should load instead?
[17:45] <Kurvivor> riverloop: do you mean menu up on the screen and one on the window?
[17:45] <ThePendulum> I'd also more or less assume that symlinking something in the mods-enabled directory makes it unnecessary to load them
[17:45] <OEP> I've installed linux-source, linux-headers, and nvidia-current, but the nvidia kernel module isn't getting loaded; what should I be doing to see what went wrong?
[17:46] <monty_hall> I'm running 13.10
[17:46] <xWolfz> Can someone explain X Window System, desktop managers, and window managers to me before I fucken kill myself.
[17:47] <Kurvivor> i cannot update ubuntu to a new version - i keep getting an error; where can i find the reason for that?  where are ubuntu upgrade logs kept?
[17:47] <Lucax> how much better is unity than gnome 3?
 try reading unix-haters handbook, it has a oart on it
 essentially, unneeded layer of abstraction that only slows system down and introduces bugs; it also uses cleant and server termins wrong
[17:48] <ThePendulum> xWolfz: The X window system is the default window system in a lot of UNIX operating systems. It's primary function is to provide... windows. The desktop environment encapsulates this and provides the rest of the graphical experience.
[17:49] <monty_hall> that last part about client/server is indeed weird
[17:49] <ThePendulum> Lucax: On what front? You'd have to try for yourself to see which one you like better; it's a subjective experience.
[17:49] <Bashing-om> xWolfz: X is a layer running on top of the kerenl, Desk top manager is what desktop you have ( say xfce4, unity, LXDE ) .. and the windows manager is what determins the desk top ya want to start.
[17:49] <Guest79245> /quit
[17:49] <xWolfz> ahh
[17:49] <xWolfz> Thanks guys.
[17:49] <ThePendulum> Bashing-om: The latter... is that so?
[17:50] <ThePendulum> Isn't the window manager the piece that extends and completes the X Window System?
[17:51] <trism> monty_hall: might be able to add a debdiff to that bug report and maybe get an SRU to saucy, the change is very minor, deletes two lines and adds one...but saucy is out of support in a couple months so I don't know how helpful it would be
[17:51] <Pwnna> here's another one http://paste.ubuntu.com/7339207/
[17:52] <Bashing-om> ThePendulum: Yeah, so far as I know, with a gui desk tops installed, must have a means to determine which to start, also that is the GUI login part of it.
[17:52] <basketball> how do i downlpoad a old the previous version of dropbox
[17:58] <m_Joseph> How do I minimize this window lol...No minimize maximize and close options...http://postimg.org/image/xld7kl1yb/
[17:58] <m_Joseph> 14.04 is full of silly bugs like this!
[17:58] <m_Joseph> Annoying, though.
[17:59] <[[lutchy]]> Probably hiding under the task bar
[17:59] <m_Joseph> How can I bring that up?
[17:59] <[[lutchy]]> Can you right click Minimize from the Task bar >
[17:59] <m_Joseph> No, it is always maximized.
[18:00] <m_Joseph> I can't move that window.
[18:01] <m_Joseph> Double clicking the title/task bar doesn't work with this, too.
[18:01] <m_Joseph> Window doesn't have borders also. Strange.
[18:02] <OEP> is jockey-text even around anymore? how out of date is this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:04] <MagicSpud> hello I am having problems to chat in this channel: #bacula
[18:04] <MagicSpud> I dont know how to register login???
[18:05] <DJones> !register | MagicSpud
[18:05] <whoever> hi all
[18:05] <GJPMiningco> Hey i am transfer the IPtables from one system to a new system
[18:05] <GJPMiningco> and when i run iptables save >/file
[18:06] <GJPMiningco> and then move the file to the new system and type iptables restore < /file i am getting errors
[18:06] <whoever>  in theory:  i have a .wmv file with DRM , I know i can remove the drm with various windows programs so that I may play it with something like xbmc, but there there a linux solution for removing DRM ?
[18:07] <john____> I am trying to compile a program from source, and I seem to have conflicting versions of a library installed (gtk-3). configure advises: 'pkg-config --modversion gtk+-3.0' returned 3.8.7, but GTK+ (3.8.4) was found! [...]it is best to remove the old version of GTK+. how can I remove the old version?
[18:08] <whoever> john____: forcfully remove one version to complete the complile, then if you need it after wards reinstall it
[18:09] <john____> whoever: how can I pick which version I am removing?
[18:10] <tapout> for some reason the buttons on the side of my mouse don't work in ubuntu, the back and forward buttons on the side.   The top 3 work, as does the scrollwheel.  Any ideas?
[18:10] <saften> Hello
[18:10] <stevenboyd> tapout, what kind of mouse is it?
[18:10] <saften> How do I update from ubuntu 13.04 to 14.04 ?
[18:11] <whoever> john____: remove , then purge
[18:11] <tapout> razer deathadder 2013
[18:11] <tapout> razor
[18:11] <Beldar> saften, By upgrading to 13.10 than 14.04
[18:11] <saften> Beldar: And how do I do that?
[18:11] <saften> through terminal
[18:11] <saften> Beldar: I'm on SSH to my server remotely
[18:11] <ainx> hello
[18:12] <OEP> Does anyone here use a NVIDIA GTX 660 and know which nvidia-* package they use?
[18:12] <Beldar> saften, I can't help you with this issue.
[18:12] <k1l> saften: run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[18:12] <saften> k1l: thanks
[18:14] <stevenboyd> tapout, http://thelleo.deviantart.com/journal/Linux-Ubuntu-and-Razer-mouse-together-Why-not-391731374
[18:14] <stevenboyd> tapout, the buttons have to be mapped to an action
[18:16] <cxxc> so who uses ubuntu for games and everything else? steam, play on linux, etc? seems like everything works out of the box with ubtunu and im currently dual boot windows and fedora 20 and thinking of switching over to just ubuntu. should i go for it?
[18:18] <john____> cxxc: my experience has been that a graphics driver install is needed, which has been kind of hit or miss
[18:19] <cxxc> im on regular intel graphics
[18:19] <Beldar> cxxc, The is support not opinjions
[18:19] <Beldar> opinions*
[18:20] <ktosiek> I put the full path to an interpreter in ELF binary, but ldd still shows it'd rather load some other one
[18:20] <mozzarella> guys
[18:20] <mozzarella> can I get the same lockscreen as gnome 3?
[18:20] <cxxc> Beldar, john____ , intel graphics is what i have. other option running windows 7 in a VM i guess to play things if needed?
[18:21] <ktosiek> and I'm getting segfault in libld when trying to run that binary (but not when running it with "/path/to/my/ld-linux.so.2 that_binary")
[18:21] <ktosiek> what might be causing that? Is Ubuntu trying to be smart about rewriting ELF's interpreter?
[18:22] <ktosiek> (is it a good channel for this kind of questions BTW? Or should non-typical-user cases go somewhere else?)
[18:23] <Bashing-om> OEP: Try -> ubuntu-drivers devices , ubuntu-drivers list ; and yeah, jockey has been depreciated.
[18:23] <jhutchins> mozzarella: You could always install gnome3.
[18:24] <saften> If I run "sudo do-release-upgrade" will any configuration i made be erased or changed?
[18:24] <bekks> saften: If a configuration is to be altered, you will be asked.
[18:24] <carroarmato0> Any one experiencing no sound with Google Chrome after installing Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[18:24] <ktosiek> and even given option to see a diff :-)
[18:25] <saften> bekks: Thanks=) I changed my ssh port to another one so I hope it's still the same after upgrade since I'm remotely connected
[18:25] <bekks> saften: Then you should run your update in screen or tmux.
[18:25] <jhutchins> saften: Yeah, that will remain the same.
[18:26] <tydra> I'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 alongside my windows, I have a live usb setup but I can not boot it under efi mode, only legacy legacy mode
[18:26] <saften> alright =)
[18:26] <saften> jhutchins: thanks=)
[18:26] <jhutchins> saften: bekks suggestion is good to - it's alot easier to start screen BEFORE you get disconnected!
[18:27] <MagicSpud> how to remotely backup files from an active directory using bacula?
[18:27] <saften> jhutchins: why screen ?
[18:27] <ihavenoname>  asdf
[18:27] <saften> jhutchins: I'm on IRC on another computer now
[18:27] <dw1> sorry i disappeared after asking a question a while ago. i think my regular disk activity issue may be normal.  i went to console and killed almost everything and it still happened, and it happens on other comps too so...
[18:27] <dw1> i guess im just sensitive to the hd sound
[18:27] <jhutchins> saften: screen or tmux allow you to reconnect to a session if you get disconnected for some reason.
[18:28] <saften> jhutchins: you mean disconnected from the server overall?
[18:28] <jhutchins> saften: right.
[18:30] <saften> jhutchins: so I just start a new screen session and run the command from there?
[18:30] <OEP> Bashing-om: thanks I did find that command; I guess the wiki should be updated
[18:30] <jhutchins> saften: Right.  Might have a look at the manpage.
[18:31] <dw1> will anything break in default ubuntu with noatime on filesystem?
[18:32] <jhutchins> dw1: Well, you won't have atime, but it's argued that that isn't true anyway.
[18:32] <jhutchins> dw1: Nothing functional.
[18:32] <Bashing-om> OEP: Good deal. as to updating the wiki, there is always a shortage of those qualified and having the time to do so. Ubuntu evolves much faster than the documentation can keep up, huh .
[18:34] <MagicSpud> hello gimp crashes on export image: http://www.pasteall.org/51142/python
[18:35] <dw1> MagicSpud: #gimp prob a good bet
[18:36] <Bashing-om> OEP: Once you have removed the olkd drivers, are you aeare -> ubuntu-drivers autoinstall <- to install the standard available proprietary video driver ?
[18:46] <xWolfz> What directory holds the terminal utilities?
[18:46] <xWolfz> :O
[18:47] <intok> Whats the current state of Bluray playback on 14.04?
[18:47] <wheresmypaaants> hey, me again
[18:47] <wheresmypaaants> So i installed windows 7 on a partition, and I want to know how to get GRUB back to dual boot
[18:47] <wheresmypaaants> im currently running the ubuntu live version off my cd
[18:48] <bekks> !grub2 | wheresmypaaants
[18:48] <wheresmypaaants> Thanks, your a live saver
[18:49] <dw1> i purged iptables and reinstalled it, and lost the folder+file /etc/iptables/rules.v4 .. if i recreate it will it still run ? :/
[18:49] <dw1> maybe i need ufw again
[18:49] <wheresmypaaants> bekks: When doing sudo apt-get install boot-repair it doesnt know where it is
[18:49] <bekks> dw1: will what run?
[18:49] <dw1> bekks: rules on boot
[18:50] <bekks> wheresmypaaants: then use another approach listed in the article.
[18:50] <wheresmypaaants> Okay
[18:50] <bekks> dw1: you have to test that.
[18:51] <OEP> Bashing-om: I ran that and it installed nvidia-331 (I think that's the number, it was the largest of the three)
[18:51] <OEP> sorry there was a typo in that last message and I couldn't entirely read through it
[18:52] <freq> damn that's a long userlist
[18:52] <michagogo|cloud> Um, is this a known issue? https://twitter.com/nelhage/status/460066569477844992
[18:53] <xWolfz> This might be a problem that's too advanced for a beginner like me.
[18:54] <xWolfz> I want to make my /home/rob/Documents folder sharable to my android phone.
[18:54] <xWolfz> Fuck dropbox btw
[18:54] <xWolfz> How do I do this xD
[18:54] <dw1> michagogo|cloud: one guy in replies claims it was indeed an issue, fixed before public release
[18:55] <dw1> michagogo|cloud: hearsay > hearsay :)
[18:55] <Beldar> !language | xWolfz
[18:55] <rageliekdesun> lol
[18:55] <xWolfz> Sorry Beldar xD
[18:55] <michagogo|cloud> dw1: Ah, does it?
[18:55] <michagogo|cloud> I didn't see that
[18:55] <michagogo|cloud> (does anyone know if that's actually the case?)
[18:55] <pmd`> It's probably related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1308572
[18:56] <rageliekdesun> xWolfz cant you just set up and ftp server and share the files on your network that way ?
[18:56] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: Actually, just running update-grub should do it
[18:56] <rageliekdesun> an ftp server, even
[18:56] <michagogo|cloud> pmd`: Ah, sounds like it
[18:56] <michagogo|cloud> Thanks
[18:56] <rageliekdesun> or even an http server, that's even easier :>
[18:57] <xWolfz> rageliekdesun, Perfect, I'm gonna set up a http server
[18:57] <dw1> michagogo|cloud: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7651114 "The bug was fixed before the release of Ubuntu 14.04"
[18:57] <wheresmypaaants> jhutchins: Well, if I had known that sooner I wouldn't have started Boot Repair XD
[18:57] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: Yeah, sorry, watching a horserace.
[18:57] <wheresmypaaants> jhutchins: :F
[18:59] <dw1> michagogo|cloud: apparently the trick was holding down Enter
[18:59] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: Actually... if you installed Windows on top, that won't do it, it overwrites the MBR.  You need grub-install, but boot-repair should do it.
[18:59] <wheresmypaaants> urg. http://paste2.org/Mf4wZt2d
[19:00] <wheresmypaaants> i got the error at the end of the boot repair
[19:00] <wheresmypaaants> will i die?
[19:00] <wheresmypaaants> :F
[19:02] <bekks> wheresmypaaants: You will die, for sure. But not because of a grub issue.
[19:02] <wheresmypaaants> What does that error mean?
[19:02] <wheresmypaaants> Will GRUB not function?
[19:02] <wheresmypaaants> or is it some meaningless error that everyone gets
[19:03] <bekks> It means: Do not use "-y" for that command.
[19:03] <wheresmypaaants> So do I have to start over?
[19:03] <cai> ubuntu has filled my entire drive with a 30GB syslog file
[19:03] <wheresmypaaants> The boot repair?
[19:03] <stemid> I can't find keytouch as described in this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyTouch in 14.04
[19:03] <stemid> only keytouch-editor
[19:04] <cai> Ubuntu keeps filling my drive with: Apr 26 14:58:27 amdfx6300 kernel: [43650.531067] AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=01:00.0 domain=0x0013 address=0x0000000000001000 flags=0x0000]
[19:04] <bekks> wheresmypaaants: No. Just use the commands shown there.
[19:04] <stemid> cai: I would run som smart tests on the hdd.
[19:04] <bekks> cai: Looks like a hardware issue.
[19:04] <wheresmypaaants> bekks: You're confusing me. The commands boot repair tells me to do? I did them.
[19:04] <cai> stemid: the hdd is fine
[19:04] <bekks> stemid: Those errors have nothing to do with the HDD.
[19:05] <wheresmypaaants> bekks: Should I remove -y from the commands?
[19:05] <wheresmypaaants> [19:03] <bekks> It means: Do not use "-y" for that command.
[19:05] <bekks> wheresmypaaants: And the option "-y" is invalid. So do not use that option. For that shown command.
[19:05] <wheresmypaaants> So try again, and dont do it with a -y?
[19:05] <django> how can i check through terminal if jquery is installed
[19:05] <cai> bekks: ubuntu keeps filling my SSD with that message, and I ca't find any to suppress it like openwrt/macos/windows can
[19:06] <diliking> buonasera
[19:06] <bekks> cai: Then fix the error.
[19:06] <bekks> cai: Check your RAM in first instance.
[19:06] <stemid> you can filter out messages in rsyslog but it seems better to solve the issue.
[19:06] <wheresmypaaants> bekks: So try again, and dont do it with a -y?
[19:06] <afflicto> Should I upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04?
[19:06] <cai> bekks: my hardware is fine, i can fur+prime+netbomb it all day
[19:07] <wheresmypaaants> afflicto: I would think it's best to stay up to date
[19:07] <wheresmypaaants> afflicto: So yes
[19:07] <wheresmypaaants> afflicto: Update
[19:07] <afflicto> wheresmypaaants: hehe ok :P
[19:07] <bekks> cai: which has no meaning. Test your RAM.
[19:07] <hyprvx> Quick question, I have UEFI firmware on my laptop for a fast booting of Windows 8. Does Ubuntu offer a similar fast boot ability?
[19:07] <cai> bekks: it's fine
[19:08] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: I know Ubuntu supports UEFI, although I'm not sure about a fast boot ability like that.
[19:08] <hyprvx> Is the overall boot experience similar to booting from a disc? Because if so, I will have to wait
[19:08] <bekks> cai: Did you run memtest86++ for at least one hour?
[19:09] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: Ubuntu already boots quickly.
[19:09] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: For me, my boot time is around 15 seconds
[19:09] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: I don't see why you'd need a fast boot utility
[19:09] <cai> bekks: yes, at 2GHz, and it's only at 1.6GHz right now
[19:09] <stemid> cai: well if you really want to filter it here's an example from one of my rsyslogs if $programname == 'snmpd' and ( $msg contains 'Connection from UDP' or $msg contains 'Received SNMP packet(s) from UDP' ) then ~
[19:10] <stemid> ~ drops it
[19:10] <hyprvx> When I boot, I see a TOSHIBA logo, then the loading dots of Windows 8.1. I'd like something comparable to that
[19:10] <bekks> cai: How long ago did you test your RAM?
[19:11] <Catacus> this room chatty much?
[19:11] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: I don't understand. Are you talking about dual boots?
[19:11] <wheresmypaaants> hyprvx: What do the Windows 8.1 dots have to do with this
[19:11] <Catacus> whats the verage size of american ready made meals, i nmeed to know ><
[19:11] <cai> bekks: it's not a hardware issue, it's a kernel problem, I don't get this on 2.6 at all
[19:11] <Catacus> *average
[19:11] <Catacus> someone said 15-300g.. thats tiny!!!
[19:11] <Catacus> cant be true
[19:11] <bekks> cai: If you know better then, good luck.
[19:11] <wheresmypaaants> Catacus: We aren't here to talk about food
[19:11] <wheresmypaaants> Catacus: Go to #food
[19:11] <Catacus> yes, its not banned though
[19:11] <Flannel> Catacus: This channel is for Ubuntu related support, take offtopic questions elsewhere, #ubuntu-offtopic would be one possible place.
[19:12] <hyprvx> The fact that my computer boots in about 9 seconds now, can Ubuntu match that with or without a dual boot?
[19:12] <ascot> Anyone knows how can I get the TrueCrypt system tray icon?
[19:12] <cai> hyprvx: for me BIOS takes longer than ubuntu to load
[19:12] <Catacus> christ, why is everyone so damn autistic in chatrooms about stuff like this
[19:12] <Flannel> hyprvx: fast-boot is some hybrid hibernation thing.  If you're dual booting, the webpage I'm reading says it won't be able to work (because the dual booting)
[19:12] <solexious> Whats the default sound system in ubuntu 13.10, pulse?
[19:13] <wheresmypaaants> Catacus: Because we come here for support/to give support, not to participate in food questions
[19:13] <Flannel> Catacus: There's 1750 people here, we can't all be babbling on about offtopic stuff.  That's why we have other channels for other topics.
[19:13] <OEP> solexious: looks like it
[19:13] <Catacus> i hope theres really a food channel
[19:13] <cai> solexious: a mess of pulse
[19:13] <Catacus> xD
[19:13] <solexious> OEP: cai: thanks
[19:17] <wheresmypaaants> Flannel: I couldn't have said it better
[19:19] <ira_> what's the matter of fast booting? how often you shut down your computer anyway
[19:20] <meway> how to get camera to work?
[19:21] <freq> meway: do you have a program you're running?
[19:21] <stemid> meway: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[19:24] <BlitzHere> I just had Ubuntu crash on me. I had XChat, steam, Chrome, Google play music manager and Rhythmbox running. I was encrypting my external hard drive using the diska application to the LUKS format. I had instructed it to zero out the drive. I was playing the game FTL via steam when my mouse suddenly borked out. unplugging and replugging it didn't work. Then there was a freeze for a couple of seconds before recovery and I exited the game using the touchp
[19:24] <BlitzHere> ad. THen I noticed that the format of the external hard drive failed and my usb flash drive wasn't working. WOndering if the USBs just broke I rebooted the computer. It didn't boot till I unplugged the external hard drive that I was trying to format but it seems fine now.  But I want to figure out what went wrong. Where do I start? Where are the logs?
[19:24] <cai> is /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog  where i put syslog filter rules
[19:25] <starrats> Questiom:  I have a Toshiba Satellite Mod# L775D-S7112 had no problems yesterday after installing Ubuntu 14.04LTS and this morning none either.  But this afternoon  the cursor was 'frozen' in the middle of the screen and the password box would not allow me to enter my password, is there a fix to this problem?
[19:25] <OEP> BlitzHere: /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log (in general /var/log)
[19:26] <Deihmos_> I wonder why everyone is saying that you need to disable secure boot to install aUbuntu ? It worked fine
[19:26] <jhutchins> starrats: It depends on what caused it.  Did a screensaver lock up?  Did the GPU overheat?  Was the system still running with just the GUI locked up?
[19:26] <hms> Hello, I have a Problem with touchscreen on Unity, at Xubuntu Desktop it works fine.
[19:27] <jhutchins> starrats: Was the system in hibernate or suspend?  Open or closed?
 I'll take a look
[19:28] <Staberinde> Hey folks, i'm going to be upfront and say i've done something rather stupid, I was upgrading a laptop to 13.10 via command line. I reached the point when I was asked whether I wanted to to replace the default applications definition with the updated version. I chose to diff the file, and once i'd reached the end, in a moment of madness, I ctrl-c 'd to get out of the diff. So I have 2 questions: 1. I don't think I got
[19:28] <Staberinde> past the stage of unpacking files for install, but could someone with knowledge with the ordering of the upgrade script please confirm that this is the case? If it's not, just how badly have I screwed things up? 2. In order to run do-release-upgrade again, I need to release the lock left in place by aptitude, can someone tell me where abouts this lock is located? Thanks in advance
[19:29] <starrats> none of those choices jhutchins, I had shutit down while I was out on errands, came back and turned on the laptop went to my Ubuntu partition and the cursor was just frozen in the middle of the screen and it would not move and I wasn't able to login with my password
[19:29] <MagicSpud> http://www.pasteall.org/51143 I thought it was a gimp related issue but it came up again after upgrading gimp (using ubuntu precise here)
[19:30] <starrats> laptop was closed and off
[19:32] <Deihmos_> should i use proprietary drivers for nvidia or x.org
[19:33] <OEP> Deihmos_: they generally perform better than the open source ones if that's what you're after
[19:37] <chris__> hey guys, I just installed ubuntu for the first time. I have a problem with a partition.
[19:37] <chris__> does someone know how that works
[19:37] <robotdevil> anyone hear know why java (openjdk) would have a open connection to google causing modem activity light to stay active
[19:37] <Heebie1> Hello.  I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[19:38] <robotdevil> here*
[19:39] <Heebie1> robotdevil: I think that would depend on what was running under Java.
[19:39] <starrats> just curious any answers to my dilemma folks?
[19:39] <robotdevil> Heebie1: absolutely no app, by me at least
[19:39] <chris__> Hey guys, I created a data partition when I installed ubuntu but know its all mixed up with the mounting. can anyone help me
[19:40] <Heebie1> robotdevil: You must be running something that uses Java, which could be an applet on a website or something like that.
[19:40] <robotdevil> everything closed
[19:40] <Heebie1> chris__: I think we need more detail than that.
[19:40] <Heebie1> robotdevil: strace the java process and see what it's doing.
[19:40] <BlitzHere> Okay, here's syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/7339909/
[19:41] <robotdevil> Heebie1: already purged java from system
[19:41] <Heebie1> robotdevil: Is there still a java process running to test?
[19:42] <robotdevil> was just curious if anyone might know whats up since a quick search turned up nothing
[19:42] <robotdevil> no
[19:42] <Kaelleb> Hello folks, I am having a problem mounting my NAS. I am receiving an error after running mount -a as root, "Unable to find suitable address.
[19:42] <Kaelleb> ". Working this one all morning.
[19:42] <Heebie1> If you can't reproduce the issue, you're probably not going to get an answer, unfortunately.
[19:42] <robotdevil> Heebie1: ya I should have waited, thanks anyway
[19:42] <chris__> Heebie1: ok this is what my disk manager looks like http://postimg.org/image/g2iptnqjn/
[19:42] <OEP> BlitzHere: that doesn't say much to me other than the OS thought it was disconnected; was the data on it preserved?
[19:43] <Heebie1> Kaelleb: pastebin your /etc/fstab file
[19:43] <chris__> Heebie1: but the data partition wont mount properly
[19:43] <Heebie1> please define "properly" ?
[19:43] <Kaelleb> Here is the offending line: //georgetowne/rbf /media/rbf cifs uid=1001,gid=1001,credentials=/home/rbf/.credentials,iocharset=utf8,user,sec=ntlm 0 0
[19:44] <BlitzHere> And kernlog http://paste.ubuntu.com/7339936/
[19:44] <Heebie1> Kaelleb: If you change the line to use the IP address, does it work?
[19:44] <chris__> Heebie1: I have a folder data in my / directory
[19:44] <BlitzHere> OEP, the 16GB flash drive that was connected seems to have some errors
[19:44] <Heebie1> BlitzHere: looks like a dead hard disk.
[19:44] <BlitzHere> It's in FAT32 format
[19:44] <Kaelleb> it's the same thing. I have also done this without the remote credentials call.
[19:45] <john____> whoever: just to followup about the gtk lib version conflict thing, it turned out to be an artifact of my distro (mint) improperly updating the version of gtk after forking it. I've worked around it by lying about the version to pkg-configure and put in a pull request to fix it properly.
[19:45] <chris__> Heebie1: but I cant copy anything in it
[19:45] <BlitzHere> I'm running dosfsck
[19:45] <BlitzHere> Checking the external hard disk now
[19:45] <chris__> Heebie1: and I dont know in the mountin options what to choose. under identify as
[19:45] <BlitzHere> It's only a month old :P
[19:45] <Heebie1> chris__:  If you can't copy anything in, that suggests you don't have permission/ownership.  If you type mount, does it show up in the list of mounted filesystems?
[19:46] <Kaelleb> The nas is up and I can hit it via the web.
[19:46] <OEP> BlitzHere: run a fsck, if you need to scrape data maybe use photorec or something, then just see if you can mkfs later when you got everything you need
[19:46] <Heebie1> BlitzHere: If it's flash, and it's been getting written to a lot, a month is easiliy enough to kill it. (usb pen drive things.)
[19:47] <chris__> Heebie1: no because I guess its not mounted yet
[19:47] <Heebie1> Kaelleb: The NAS might be up, but you might be having SMB name-resolution issues.  If you change to the NAS's IP, and it suddenly works, then that's likely the problem.
[19:47] <Kaelleb> It is the sam message if I use the IP. I can hit the NAS using the web using the same address.
[19:47] <chris__> Heebie1: when I go to the disk options to mount it, I can choose identify as /dev/sda/6 or LABEL=data
[19:47] <Deihmos_> I installed flash and it works in firefox but not chrome
[19:47] <chris__> Heebie1: and a lot of other things. I dont know which one to choose
[19:47] <Heebie1> /dev/sda/6 shouldn't work.  /dev/sda6 perhaps.
[19:47] <Kaelleb> Thanks I will give it a try.
[19:48] <BlitzHere> OEP: <Heebie1>: I was in the process of formatting my 1 TB external hard drive to ext4+LUKS using the disks application. My USB flash drive was simply connected with no IO AFAIK
[19:48] <Heebie1> BlitzHere: and which drive died?
[19:49] <chris__> Heebie1: my home partition says for eg /dev/sda5 on /home type ext4
[19:50] <Heebie1> That's disk SDA partition 5.  disk SDA partition 6 would be /dev/sda6
[19:50] <chris__> Heebie1: how can I choose mount on /data which I created in the ubuntu installation
[19:50] <BlitzHere> Neither has any data I care about, but the USB flash drive has GRUB on it because mini.iso thought that was my hard drive :P
[19:50] <Heebie1> chris__ mount /dev/sda6 /data
[19:50] <BlitzHere> SHould be fixable with boot-repair
[19:50] <chris__> Heebie1: can I type that in the terminal or how do I do that
 Neither drive seems to have died
[19:51] <Heebie1> chris__: In a terminal as the super-user  (sudo if you're not root)
[19:51] <Heebie1> BlitzHere: You have an "offline device" there of some kind. That doesn't look good at all.
[19:51] <chris__> Heebie1: it says /dev/sda6 us mounted in /data   mount failed
[19:51] <Heebie1> chris__: No reason for the failure?
[19:52] <BlitzHere> I'm running dosfsck on the 16GB USB flash drive right now, and copying 280GB of data onto the external hard drive
[19:52] <BlitzHere> I'l run fsck on the other one in a second
[19:52] <chris__> Heebie1: only the little warning in the file manager
[19:53] <Heebie1> chris__: Did you do this from the command-line, or from the GUI?  (the command-line will probably give you richer output)
[19:53] <chris__> Heebie1: from the command line
[19:53] <BlitzHere> Heebie1: If it helps, my mouse stopped working at that point too. And reconnecting it didn't help. But it works just fine on a reboot
[19:53] <ben_xyzzy> Why is my logrotate rotating but not compressing with bzip? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340001/
[19:53] <chris__> Heebie1: it didnt give any error in terminal
[19:54] <starrats> back from a re-start I did on purpose, it seemed to work okay but I'm still curious if you might know my problem?
[19:54] <BlitzHere> That's 3 devices connected to 3 USB ports out of 4
[19:54] <chris__> Heebie1: it just worked
[19:54] <chris__> Heebie1: but
[19:54] <chris__> Heebie1: when I went to the file manger it is listed but not mounted
[19:54] <chris__> Heebie1: maybe it helps when I describe what I did so far
[19:55] <chris__> Heebie1: during installation i created /home and /data and /
[19:55] <r3ality> Hi! I am trying to use deja-dup to backup my local files to a LAN ftp server. Everything works perfectly with a URL like: ftp://user@server:port. But when I try to choose a path on the server like: "ftp://user@server:port/path", the backup fails directly after the server-password prompt. As Deja-Dup is based on Duplicity, I tried connecting with the same address using duplicity directly and it worked flawlessy... Anyone have an idea?
[19:55] <chris__> Heebie1: I was than trying to find /data in nautilus
[19:56] <chris__> Heebie1: I saw it under /data in the root directory
[19:56] <ben_xyzzy> Sorry, that was rubbish. Why is this logrotate not compressing with bzip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340021/
[19:56] <chris__> Heebie1: but I could not do anything with it
[19:56] <chris__> Heebie1: but I could not do anything with it
[19:56] <r3ality> oh yeah, it's ubuntu 14.04
[19:56] <chris__> Heebie1: thats why I went to the disk manager and tried to mount it in different ways
[19:57] <chris__> Heebie1: and I dont know how that works woth mount point and identify as
[19:58] <Heebie1> If the mountpoint is set to /data, that's where it should be.  It sounds like you didn't give permissions for your regular user to access the /data directory once it was mounted.
[19:58] <Heebie1> I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[19:59] <chris__> Heebie1: ok i now said mountpoint /data how to I unmount the thing that I did in the terminal earlier
[20:00] <Heebie1> chris__: umount /data
[20:00] <chris__> Heebie1: I typed in terminal unmount /data but it says command not found
[20:01] <Heebie1> not unmount, umount
[20:01] <BlitzHere> umount
[20:01] <chris__> :) ok
[20:01] <Deihmos_> does ubuntu have a good twitter app
[20:01] <Heebie1> There's no such thing as a good twatter app.
[20:02] <chris__> Heebie1: ok that worked but it is still listed in nautilus
[20:02] <chris__> Heebie1: how to i mount this partition 6 now as /data
[20:03] <darkseid> Greetings...
[20:03] <darkseid> I've got a problem..
[20:03] <r3ality> Is there any way to get a more verbose error output for deja-dup?
[20:03] <Heebie1> chris__:  The directory will still be there in Nautilus, but there shouldn't be anything mounted on it.     Mounting it in /data, would be  mount /dev/sda6 /data
[20:04] <chris__> Heebie1: it again gives me that error in nautilus when I try to click on it
[20:05] <chris__> Heebie1: http://postimg.org/image/sqra4he8h/
[20:05] <Heebie1> chris__:  After that you have to change the ownership on /data, or change the permissions on /data, so that you can access it from your standard user account.   (chmod 0777 /data is one way.. not a great way.  chown <your-user>:<your-users-group> /data is better if you are the only person who will ever use it.    What exactly is the error?
[20:05] <darkseid> I just updated my system and looks like my kde was downgraded.. I really don't know what's happening...
[20:05] <Heebie1> darkseid: If the version of KDE that was on your system had serious flaws in it, they might have backed the distro off to an earlier version.
[20:06] <Heebie1> chris__:  If you do a `cat /etc/mtab | grep data`, what do you see ?
[20:07] <chris__> Heebie1: /dev/sda6 /data ext4 rw 0 0
[20:07] <skirlet> reisio: Thank you again dude! Have an awesome weekend!!!!reisio;
[20:07] <chris__> Heebie1: i did the chmod thing before
[20:07] <darkseid> Heebie1: I'm using the latest packages from kubuntu-backports. It suppose to go further... I lost many new packages installed later I had run 'autoremove"
[20:07] <Heebie1> chris__:  and if you do `mount | grep data`
[20:07] <chris__> Heebie1: /dev/sda6 on /data type ext4 (rw)
[20:08] <Heebie1> darkseid: I wish I knew what to tell you there.
[20:08] <Heebie1> chris__:  `ls -lhrt | grep data`
[20:09] <chris__> Heebie1: that doenst do anything
[20:09] <Heebie1> chris__:  Sorry `ls -lhrt / | grep data`
[20:09] <r3ality> has anyone ever used deja-dup or am I the only one trying? I just cant find proper help after what feels like hours of google...
[20:09] <chris__> Heebie1: drwxrwxrwx   6 chris chris 4.0K Apr 26 12:08 data
[20:10] <Heebie1> chris__:  and your login that you're on for your GUI session is 'chris' ?
[20:10] <chris__> Heebie1: I just say that I can now access the /data folder in my root folder
[20:10] <chris__> Heebie1: yes its chris
[20:10] <gabo> hola q tal
[20:10] <chris__> Heebie1: i think it kind of works now
[20:10] <Guest35525> alguien que me pueda hablar de Suse Linux?
[20:10] <Heebie1> chris__:  If you click on it in Nautilus, you get something now?
[20:11] <chris__> Heebie1: i still have the drive data in the list of devices which gives me the error though
[20:11] <Heebie1> SuSe Linux? =O  Sacrilege in this channel!
[20:11] <Gabomza> alguien q use Suse Linux?
[20:12] <chris__> Heebie1: ok I think i will try to restart now and see if it still gives me a mounting error at startup
[20:12] <Heebie1> chris__: You probably don't have "user" in the mount options, but you don't need it.  You should access the data from /data, and not via the device, because it's permanently mounted.   If only you are going to use it, you might consider moving the mount point to /home/chris/data
[20:12] <ZeThomas> hello, I have a usb device that is no longer recognized by my system since my update to 14.04, can anybody help? Connecting and deconnecting changes nothing in dmesg, nor in lsusb
[20:13] <DJones> Gabomza: Maybe try asking in #opensuse about suse linux
[20:13] <darkseid> There any problem when upgrade instead make a clean installation? I'm running 13.10
[20:13] <chris__> Heebie1: ok I'm not sure what is the best way for me. My initial idea was to create a partition for my data that can be uneffected from distro switches.
[20:14] <chris__> Heebie1: its just very new for me how these drives are all listed and mounted in linux
[20:14] <ZeThomas> chris__, it is always a good idea to have a separate partition for /home
[20:14] <Heebie1> darkseid: You're more likely to have problems if you have any third-party repos, like PPA's etc..  I'll have difficulties from zfsonline native repos and a few others myself.
[20:15] <chris__> Heebie1: thanks so much for your help. I'll restart now and see if it works all fine
[20:15] <Heebie1> chris__: Just put it all in your /home partition, and keep the same home partition betwen changes.
[20:15] <chris__> ZeThomas: I thought so
[20:15] <chris__> Heebie1: I just switched from mint for e.g. and home contains so many programs and the .config folder. I felt like starting fresh is better
[20:16] <darkseid> Heebie1: I see.... I may have to make a clean installation rather.
[20:16] <Heebie1> ZeThomas: agreed.  separate partitions for / /var /usr /usr/local /home /tmp /opt and all excellent ideas.
[20:16] <eindoofus> could someone show me how one can create an equivalent batch file in linux? i know the paths won't match up but i'm just trying to get an idea.  http://pastebin.com/DQ6wZ9hN
[20:16] <eindoofus> really don't want to be forced to do my homework on windows. lol
[20:17] <darkseid> Heebie1: Therefore, all repos are disable, right..
[20:17] <darkseid> ?
[20:17] <Heebie1> darkseid: I've been spending my evenings making sure I have backups of all the stuff on my machine. (8TB's of storage takes a while to backup to eternal drives of various sizes!  I'm just glad I don't have to do that with any of the servers at work.) ;)
[20:18] <darkseid> Heebie1: A lot of things... huh..
[20:18] <chris_> Heebie1: ok I restarted and its still weird
[20:19] <chris_> Heebie1: it says /data is not ready or present failed to mount
[20:19] <Heebie1> eindoofus: just change all the paths to what they are in Linux.   I don't think you need the set commands, though.  JAVA_HOME=/opt/java/jre/bin/  something along those lines. (It won't be identical to that.)   What I don't see is the actual java command to run tomcat.
[20:19] <Heebie1> chris_:  I don't know what to tell you without directly inspecting it then. :/
[20:19] <kdfree> Ultimately, I would like to mount an encrypted, bcached logical volume as /home at boot. I am having trouble with getting all of the steps to line up. I have a smaller SSD partition as the caching device (/dev/sdb4) and the entire HDD as the backing device (/dev/sdb1). I created the bcache0 device, and then created the LUKS volume (bcache0_crypt), created a volume group on it (data), created the logical volume (home), and formatted it
[20:19] <r3ality> Heebie1: What do you use/recommend for backups?
[20:20] <Heebie1> darkseid: We have servers with hundreds of TB's of data. I wouldn't want to have to back those up to portable USB disks. ;)
[20:20] <kdfree> I created /etc/crypttab entries for bcache0_crypt using the bcache UUID, and added an entry in /etc/fstab.
[20:20] <chris_> Heebie1: ok i understand. but maybe its just how the mount options are said. I did this. http://postimg.org/image/4fq8yowh1/
[20:20] <chris_> Heebie1: set*
[20:20] <Heebie1> r3ality: at home, just portable disks and rsync usually.   If you have another machine to backup to, you can use rsnapshot.  If you have a few, rsnapshot should still be good.  If you have a lot, I'd recommend bacula.
[20:21] <kdfree> If I boot, it said waiting for volume. The volumes seem to be detected by Nautilus, and I can decrypt, at which point they're automounted at /mnt/bcache. What I can't seem to do is have them automout at BOOT (i.e. prompt me for password and continue the boot process.)
[20:21] <eindoofus> thanks Heebie1
[20:21] <Heebie1> If it's set to mount at startup, it's probably already mounted. check with the mount command.
[20:21] <darkseid> Heebie1: I have 4 systems on 1 tb hard drive.. I'm afraid lost every thing in a clean installation like happened time ago..
[20:21] <darkseid> It is a noghtmare..
[20:21] <darkseid> nightmare..
[20:22] <kdfree> (Sorry. /dev/sda1 is the backing device. /dev/sdb4 is the caching device.)
[20:22] <Heebie1> darkseid: That would be pretty icky.  I just have one system on the main machine, and run everything else as VM's.  It's easier. ;)
[20:22] <eindoofus> Heebie1, do I need export commands?
[20:22] <eindoofus> I'm throwing it into .bashrc
[20:22] <r3ality> Heebie1: ok, thx. I'll have a look. I don't have too much stuff to backup, so I thought I could use the easy way out with deja-dup this time, but it that seems to have been a bad idea... :/
[20:23] <Heebie1> r3ality: You could always go with tar
[20:23] <Natbus12> anyone have a working uselessgaps patch for dwm-6.0
[20:23] <steamboat> I just upgraded to 14.04, and unity seems wonky now. In particular, I can't find unity-tweak-tool from the dash, my launcher has disappeared, and I have multiple workspaces but they are all arranged vertically (rather than in a grid)
[20:23] <Heebie1>  I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[20:24] <Natbus12> no ight
[20:25] <eindoofus> does CLASSPATH exists in linux? echo $CLASSPATH doesn't show anything
[20:25] <Heebie1> chris_:  If you have mount at startup ticked, it should already be mounted, and you should just go to /data in the filesytem, and not to the drive that asks for mounting.
[20:25] <Heebie1> eindoofus:  try: `env | grep CLASS`
[20:25] <kostkon> steamboat, try resetting your unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:26] <steamboat> kostkon: thanks, I'll check it out
[20:26] <kdfree> I suspect I may have screwed up reating the device names. lsblk output can be found http://pastebin.com/AfZRGqf1, blkid output at http://pastebin.com/ambGdsGr, /etc/crypttab at http://pastebin.com/mjuNCyVQ
[20:26] <chris_> Heebie1: I just that it gives me this waring at startup and it doenst mount it by itself. i trying to do automatic mount now. without editing the details
[20:26] <HDRDanny> Sup, nerds?
[20:27] <kdfree> Additionally, I have added "types = [ "bcache", 16 ]" to /etc/lvm/lvm.conf, so that bcache devices are probed via LVM.
[20:36] <Fagioli> yo yo yo
[20:36] <kdfree> o/
[20:36] <Heebie1> oy oy oy
[20:36] <lowgraphicssuck> just upgraded today from 13.10 to 14.04. stuck with low-graphics mode message an cannot figure the next step in fixing it.
[20:37] <Heebie1> lowgraphicssuck: Does your video card have 100% free and open-source drivers?  If not.. have you gone to "additional drivers" and installed the appropriate ones for your video card?
[20:37] <lowgraphicssuck> I have nvidia-prime installed since I have optimus.
[20:38] <lowgraphicssuck> I cannot get to the additional drivers screen because I don't even get to the greeter
[20:38] <kdfree> lowgraphicssuck: How did you upgrade.  For some reason, Xorg didn't seem to catch the previous configuration.
[20:39] <lowgraphicssuck> yes. I did do-release-upgrade
[20:39] <Heebie1> I have no idea what nvidia-prime nor optimus are.  I would login in text mode and run some type of x configurator
[20:39] <lowgraphicssuck> yes.. how do I do that?
[20:39] <lowgraphicssuck> I know how to get to text mode
[20:39] <kdfree> Can you describe your sytem? What video card to you have?
[20:39] <lowgraphicssuck> it's a laptop. acer 5742g
[20:40] <Heebie1> CTRL-ALT-F1, then login as yourself, then sudo su - to the root user, then run the xconfigurator. (I'd google for specifically what it is under 14.04)
[20:41] <psusi> no need to become root with sudo only to ask su to make your already root into root
[20:41] <psusi> sudo -s if you want a shell
[20:41] <Heebie1> You have to have the root password to use su by itself.   sudo su - gives you a super-user shell, with the super-user's envelope.
[20:42] <Heebie1> sudo -s is probably an alias for sudo su or sudo su -
[20:42] <lowgraphicssuck> this laptop has the nvidia-optimus graphics on it.
[20:42] <CornishPasty> sudo -s just gives you a shell, Heebie1, sudo -i is similar to sudo su -, but doesn't execute su
[20:42] <psusi> no... it effectively does the same thing, just without running two different programs to try and become root, the second of which succeeds without asking for a password because you already *are*
[20:43] <Heebie1> lowgraphicssuck: now what you need are the drivers.  You might have to manually install the FOSS drivers (nouveau) or download & install the latest nvidia non-free drivers since you can't get to the UI yet.
[20:44] <Heebie1> CornishPasty: and psusi: Always a good day to learn something new. ;)
[20:45] <Jay> hello
[20:45] <Jay> i have this wierd double click thing where it double clicks twice even though it shouldnt. this sucks in gaming (razor deathadder)
[20:45] <CornishPasty> psusi: sudo -s doesn't give you root's PATH or other variables
[20:45] <CornishPasty> Heh, I had that issue with a razer mouse Jay
[20:45] <CornishPasty> It was the mouse switch :P
[20:46] <Jay> their is none
[20:46] <Heebie1>  I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[20:46] <lowgraphicssuck> ok, new driver installed.. rebooting
[20:46] <Heebie1> good luck lowgraphicssuck
[20:47] <kdfree> Ubuntu: When in doubt, learn to configure irssi by hand.    I used to use ircii on a VAX under Ultrix way back in the day... always liked it.
[20:48] <alvaro> recien instale el ubuntu, y pienso quedarme con el
[20:48] <alvaro> me cambie del windows
[20:48] <kdfree> Heebie1: Nah. I use hexchat and a ZNC bouncer. Of all the things I love to do via command line, IRC is not one of them.
[20:49] <Jay> Edit > Preferences > Behaviour there you will see
[20:49] <Jay> where is that
[20:50] <Heebie1> I've never heard of either of those. =O
[20:51] <lowgraphicssuck> nope. still no luck with the driver.
[20:51] <heebie_> lowgraphicssuck: Which driver did you install?
[20:51] <lowgraphicssuck> nvidia-304
[20:52] <heebie_> Did you create a custom config file as well?  You might need to tell it to load the nvidia module(s) and use them.
[20:52] <kdfree> Heebie1: Hexchat is a fork of XCHAT, from the Linux Mint guys, I think.  wrong.
[20:53] <Jay> :D
[20:53] <kdfree> :)
[20:53] <kdfree> What's up?
[20:53] <Jay> why does my mouse double click when i only click it once
[20:53] <heebie_> Jay: repeat rate too fast?
[20:54] <Jay> i change them both
[20:54] <lowgraphicssuck> short in the clicker?
[20:54] <heebie_> Jay: or perhaps "accessibility options" of some kind turned on?
[20:54] <Jay> wheres that
[20:54] <kdfree> heebie_: Heebie1 - Same person?
[20:54] <Jay> Edit > Preferences > Behaviour there you will see <---- my friend says this but i cant find it
[20:54] <kdfree> Jay: Click the Ubuntu icon on your Dash, and type "Mouse"
[20:54] <heebie_> kdfree: Yes. I popped on via irssi for a bit, just to see what it's like. ;)
[20:54] <Jay> gowt it
[20:55] <Jay> <3
[20:55] <django> any good MMOs on ubuntu?
[20:55] <Jay> :D
[20:55] <heebie_> Now there's only one me here. :)
[20:55] <profligacy> Are there any shortcomings of running Ubuntu on a virutal machine? Is it significantly slower--or are there any complications that I should know about?
[20:55] <kdfree> django: Define "Good MMOs" :)
[20:55] <Jay> id say mmo dota 2
[20:55] <django> lol
[20:55] <Jay> or league of legends
[20:56] <kdfree> Ubuntu can run a handful of Steam games. As well as some decent Windows games, and (more and more), just... you know... games.
[20:56] <heebie_> profligacy: It shouldn't be significantly slower if you give it the right resources, and aren't using an accelerated GUI. If you just need to use it as a server, performance as a VM can be excellent.
[20:56] <heebie_> rm -fr <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:57] <kdfree> profligacy: What's your host OS, and what are you using to virtualize?
[20:57] <kdfree> profligacy: Generally speaking, there's good support for all of them. But each of them have different ways to make them awesome.
[20:58] <profligacy> kdfree: Windows 7, VMBox
[20:58] <kdfree> heebie_: Most hypervisors support accelerated GUI, actually.
[20:58] <profligacy> *VirtualBox
[20:58] <heebie_> profligacy: Hopefully you don't want to run 64-bit Windows 7 in KVM under Ubuntu.  Flipping apparmor keeps denying permission for it to run, and I can't find anyone to help me.
[20:58] <profligacy> heebie_: What's an accelerated GUI?
[20:58] <heebie_> kdfree: They do, but it's pretty much all emulated, so it's not going to be fast enough for OpenGL 3-D games at any acceptable frame rate. ;)
[20:59] <kdfree> profligacy: You won't see many drawbacks. Virtualbox is pretty good. The defaults should give you a good idea of what Ubuntu is about. Fire it up, let me know if you have any questions about how to make it better.
[20:59] <profligacy> heebie_: What's KVM? Windows 7 is my host OS.
[20:59] <sandGorgon> is anyone using ssd on 14.04 ? i'm considering buying one - but I wanted to understand if it is really all that great on linux. they are really expensive to buy :(
[20:59] <profligacy> kdfree: Thanks.
[20:59] <kdfree> heebie_: With the right CPU extensions, it's accelerated by hardware, and has near native performance. About a 3-6% hit. Obviously, this matters a LOT on older systems, but not so much on newer.
[21:00] <heebie_> profligacy: GUI = graphical user interface.  accelerated means that the video card has processors in it that handle much of the work.  The OS tells the video card "draw me a box" and a box gets drawn, so that the CPU doesn't have to calculate every pixel for the box and map it into the graphics card RAM.
[21:00] <heebie_> I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[21:00] <kdfree> heebie_: On some hyperviors, it's even possible to pass a video card directly to the VM.
[21:00] <profligacy> "accelerated" is a feature of the GUI or the video card?
[21:01] <heebie_> profligacy: The card has to support it, and the GUI has to support THAT card.
[21:01] <kdfree> Oh, crap. Sorry. Didn't realize you were having that issue while I'm bantering with you. :P
[21:01] <heebie_> kdfree: I don't have that kind of budget. :)
[21:02] <kdfree> heebie_: Most people don't. I'm lucky to work on virtualization for a living. :)
[21:02] <heebie_> kdfree: I'm a cloud computing guru.. I still don't have that kind of budget. ;)
[21:03] <kdfree> And (previously) used GPUs for mining bitcoin, back when such things were effective. I had lots of spares.
[21:03] <kdfree> heebie_: Dumb question, but are you current with all updates, and in the libvirt group?
[21:04] <kdfree> Actually... kvm and libvirtd
[21:04] <heebie_> kdfree: Nice.    and yes, updates done earlier today, followed by a reboot, and I am in the libvirt group. (my other VM's all work fine, including a Vista VM)
[21:04] <kdfree> KVM for CPU acceleration, libvirt for control of VMS.
[21:04] <profligacy> heebie_: I see.
[21:04] <profligacy> the GUI varies from application to application, right?
[21:05] <heebie_> Is there a group for spice?
[21:05] <heebie_> No group for spice.
[21:05] <kdfree> SPICE shouldn't require a group.
[21:06] <kdfree> profligacy: That's complicated. It's easier to ask "What version of Ubuntu are you using?" (i.e "Ubuntu", "Kubuntu", "Xbuntu", et cetera.)
[21:06] <kdfree> The answers are usually the same, but... Linux is weird.  :P
[21:07] <kdfree> About as useful as mucking around in /etc/sysconfig. :)
[21:07] <heebie_> kdfree: I tried that.  libvirt still didn't allow the VM to run, complaining that it couldn't find the apparmor profile for it. :/
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[21:07] <Dreadlish> wat
[21:07] <Dreadlish> :D
[21:07] <kdfree> That's weird. :S
[21:08] <heebie_> Thank you flannel :)
[21:08] <kdfree> Out of curiosity, are you using virt-manager or virsh or soemthing else?
[21:08] <heebie_> kdfree: vmm
[21:09] <heebie_> virt-manager
[21:09] <kdfree> Just to be sure, virt-manager?
[21:09] <kdfree> Okay.
[21:09] <kdfree> I think Ubuntu's fucked it up, honestly.
[21:09] <kdfree> When I launch it, it doesn't get picked up by metacity. No windows. :S
[21:09] <kdfree> It pisses me off, and it's not the only complaint with Trusty. :S
[21:10] <kdfree> I have my own issues with it.
[21:10] <heebie_> I just wish Windows 7 would work the same as Windows Vista.  I think it might be that my Vista VM is 32-bit, and I want to use a 64-bit Windows 7 version.
[21:11] <cyford> Is there a app or addon to be able to fax with All-in-Ones Printers?
[21:11] <T95N> br ae
[21:11] <kdfree> heebie_: One Linux user to another... You're phrasing the question wrong if you want things to work like Windows Vista.
[21:11] <kdfree> Or... asking the wrong question.
[21:11] <heebie_> kdfree: uhm... yeah.
[21:11]  * heebie_ kicks himself
[21:12] <heebie_> I wis the same configuration that I have for my Windows Vista VM would also work for my Windows 7 VM.
[21:12] <kdfree> cyford: It depends on the type of printer, though, honestly, your odds aren't great.
[21:13] <kdfree> I use faxzero.com to send PDFs, because I've not yet run across a completely decent way to send faxes, and I do it once every three years, so it's not worth my time.
[21:13] <cyford> yeah  its a cannon,  i been searching for a while..   just figured i would ask.  Thanks kdfree
[21:13] <profligacy> kdfree: Ubuntu.
[21:14] <heebie_> If it were an HP there would probably be drivers.
[21:14] <kdfree> cyford: There might be a tool. I just don't know what it is. I have a Cannon printer and it's fully supported without extra tools, but it's not an all-in-one.
[21:14] <kdfree> profligacy: 14.04?
[21:15] <profligacy> kdfree: Well, I haven't downloaded it yet. Which version do you reccomend I get?
[21:15] <kdfree> profligacy: Actually, doesn't matter. That version supports a few different methods, like the "failsafe". At the area that gives you the login box, you'll see a little Ubuntu icon by your name. That lets you pick sessions.
[21:15] <kdfree> Some are composite, some are not.
[21:15] <cyford> yeah my priinter drivers work,   dobt the scanner does,  and i know i can print to the fax  however cant get the the dialag box to ask for a fax number
[21:16] <profligacy> kdfree: Pick sessions?
[21:16] <kdfree> Sorry. :)
[21:16] <kdfree> Regarding the way it uses your video card. Ignore it if you're not sure what it does.
[21:16] <kdfree> As I said, try it. There's no harm. Feel free to ask if something doesn't work as you expected.
[21:17] <kdfree> profligacy: That's largely a matter of preference, to be completely honest. Everybody who answers it will tell you a million reasons why they're right. But it's all the same base, and if you like any of them, you can expand them to fit your needs.
[21:18] <kdfree> 14.04 is new enough that it's occasionally buggy. It doesn't stop me, but it can be annoying. And I prefer the Unity UI for now, so I just use the Ubuntu install.
[21:18] <zayitas> Hello
[21:18] <kdfree> But I'm weird. I always install from the Server image, because I like the power of the installer there. So... My opinions are largely irrelevant. :P
[21:19] <zayitas> some one
[21:19] <m1dnight_> hello zayitas
[21:20] <zayitas> Hello,
[21:20] <zayitas> where are your from?
[21:20] <zayitas> some one can help me
[21:20] <kdfree> I see where this is going...
 Don't ask to ask a questin, just ask
[21:21] <chris__> hey guys, ubuntu gives me the waring at startup that I cant boot my /data partition. it says the drive is not ready... if I mount it manually in ubuntu it works. how can I fix that and where?
[21:21] <kdfree> profligacy: Ubuntu is possibly one of the best systems in the world to paly with and get over the fear of breaking it. :)
[21:22] <kdfree> chris__: Great question, I have largely the same issue. Care to explain the setup? (LUKS, LVM, bcache, ext4, btrfs, et cetera)?
[21:23] <heebie_> chris__: Can you give us the output of `grep data /etc/fstab`
[21:23] <chris__> kdfree: I can only answer one question because I'm fairly new to linux. I have ext4
[21:23]  * m1dnight_ ordered his trusty tahr shirt from the canonical shop
[21:24] <m1dnight_> \o/
[21:24] <BlitzHere> profligacy: I like Ubuntu Gnome personally, because I can get insane multitasking efficiency after tweaking Gnome a little bit
[21:24] <kdfree> Ultimately, I would like to mount an encrypted, bcached logical volume as /home at boot. I am having trouble with getting all of the steps to line up. I have a smaller SSD partition as the caching device (/dev/sdb4) and the entire HDD as the backing device (/dev/sdb1). I created the bcache0 device, and then created the LUKS volume (bcache0_crypt), created a volume group on it (data), created the logical volume (home), and formatted it
[21:24] <chris__> heebie_: right now its not mounted and i get: # /data was on /dev/sda6 during installation
[21:24] <chris__> UUID=a0174071-52f0-44b0-a062-074781c408ab /data ext4 defaults 0 2
[21:25] <kdfree> That's actually kinda cool. I didn't realize Ubiquity did that. :)
[21:26] <kdfree> chris__: Can you click your Dash (the Ubuntu Icon), type in "terminal", and then type "cat /etc/fstab" and copy the entire thing to http://pastebin.com ?
[21:26] <kdfree> This might actually be easy, but I would like to see to confirm. :)
[21:27] <chris__> kdfree: http://pastebin.com/WJ7egc95
[21:27] <heebie_> chris__: That sound auto-mount at boot.  You could edit /etc/fstab and change remove the UUID=a01... and replace it with LABEL=data
[21:28] <BlitzHere> For comparison
[21:28] <BlitzHere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340570/
[21:28] <kdfree> chris__: Are you familiar with the command line, or would you prefer a graphical text editor, like Notepad?
[21:28] <chris__> I can do command line
[21:29] <chris__> but the thing that heebie_ said I didnt get..I would not know where to change it
[21:29] <darkseid> Man.. I wish I could believe in a upgrade without a new install....
[21:30] <jake_> hey guys my comp shuts down when i hit the power button any suggestions?
[21:30] <bekks> jake_: What do you expect instead?
[21:30] <heebie_> jake_: don't hit the power button.
[21:30] <jake_> it usually goes into power saving mode
[21:30] <darkseid> How about change the 'button action'...
[21:30] <jake_> ?
[21:31] <heebie_> jake_: There should be setting in the power management bit of the system config  panel I think.
[21:31] <cyford> jake check out power settings
[21:31] <jake_> k leme check
[21:31] <Zedax> hello, someone knows any software to record data blurays? on commandline if possible? i can't find any
[21:31] <kdfree> chris__: Please add this line to the end of /etc/fstab. You'll need sudo to make the change (i.e "sudo nano /etc/fstab" or whatever editor you prefer.) http://pastebin.com/qm0g039x
[21:31] <darkseid> jake, try search something on google about these kind of configuration.. Pretty easy.
[21:32] <chris__> kdfree: ok I'll try it
[21:32] <jake_> k thanks. fixed
[21:32] <heebie_> Zedax: wodim won't do it?
[21:33] <chris__> kdfree: should I also remove some other stuff
[21:33] <kdfree> chris__: No.
[21:33] <chris__> kdfree: this for eg UUID=a0174071-52f0-44b0-a062-074781c408ab /data ext4 defaults 0 2
[21:34] <heebie_> chris__: You might end up with weirdness, because the UUID= line may still be there.  Changing "UUID=<uuid>" to "LABEL=data" or "/dev/sda6" should work.
[21:34] <chris__> kdfree: so it looks like this now http://pastebin.com/YYLvF7h4
[21:34] <kdfree> chris__: Hold on, lemme check. I might have missed that...
[21:34] <kdfree> Hrm, yeah, I missed that. Can you also paste the output of "sudo blkid" ?
[21:34] <mrlesmithjr> anyone here know of somewhere I can upload a Ubuntu based Virtual Appliance for the community? Tried dropbox but they suspended the public share due to excessive access
[21:35] <kdfree> mrlesmithjr: For what purpose? Vagrants has a different place that Docker, for instance. What do you want people to do with your appliance?
[21:36] <mrlesmithjr> @kdfree it is a prepackaged Graylog2 syslog build
[21:36] <chris__> kdfree: should i not replace this line --> UUID=a0174071-52f0-44b0-a062-074781c408ab /data ext4 defaults 0 2     with what you told me to enter
[21:36] <mrlesmithjr> http://everythingshouldbevirtual.com/ubuntu-14-04-graylog2-virtual-appliance
[21:37] <Zedax> heebie_:  i'm looking on it
[21:37] <kdfree> chris__: I missed that. You might be right, but I would like to see the UUIDs reported. Can you paste "sudo blkid" to pastebin?
[21:37] <kdfree> Just wanna confirm that the UUID isn't the issue.
[21:37] <chris__> kdfree: http://pastebin.com/VfXpQBpt
[21:38] <heebie_> The UUID in blkid for /dev/sda6 doesn't match the one in FSTAB.  That's weird!
[21:39] <kdfree> Yep. My guess is a UUID mismatch. See how the UUID in /etc/fstab is different (a0174071-52f0-44b0-a062-074781c408ab) than the one reported by blkid?
[21:40] <heebie_> chris__: Did you reformat the partition sometime after the initial setup of the machine?
[21:40] <chris__> yeah i reformated it after everything was installed
[21:40] <kdfree> chris__: Just change the UUID in /etc/fstab to "c5ded19e-b5c8-4d8c-b427-6c508ef1e3b9", save, close, and reboot.
[21:40] <chris__> ok
[21:40] <heebie_> chris__: That's probably what changed the UUID and broke hte mount.
[21:40] <kdfree> heebie_: Good catch. :)
[21:41] <chris__> AHHH my fsta gives me an error now when I open it http://pastebin.com/qEXednXr
[21:41] <kdfree> heebie_: Have you tried cloning the Vista machine and re-installing with Win7?
[21:41] <heebie_> Geez. This hot & sour soup should be hot & hot & hot & hot & sour (and hot too) soup!
[21:42] <kdfree> As in, keeping the systems setting the same. That would rule out a KVM issue vs a machine config issue.
[21:42] <heebie_> kdfree: I have not.  I think it's a 64-bit vs 32-bit thing.
[21:42] <heebie_> (as in the apparmor profile has to be different for a 64-bit windows vm, but isn't.)
[21:43] <kdfree> I need to check my privaledge. I haven't touched a 32 bit system in years. :P
[21:43] <kdfree> heebie_: I can only think that there's a lack of multi-arch profiles dropped somewhere, or the VM is trying to execute memory above it's range...
[21:44] <kdfree> I'd be curious to know how that works out. :)
[21:44] <heebie_> kdfree: The VM doesn't actually begin to run. the BIOS pop-up doesn't even happen.
[21:44] <kdfree> But I would think apparmor would be noarch.
[21:45] <darkseid> guys, how can I erase all unity packages and run in pure kde?
[21:45] <kdfree> heebie_: Does it doe anything with memory or disk IO using htop?
[21:46] <kdfree> darkseid: You should probably start with the Kubuntu installer. Assuming you've used the Ubuntu image, open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get remove ubunut-desktop -y; sudo apt-get autoremove; sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[21:46] <heebie_> kdfree: I haven't checked with htop, but it shows some CPU activity, and even some disk activity, but I think it's bogus.  It's possible that it's only the spice-based display bit that's not working.
[21:47] <kdfree> heebie_: I've hit a bug with Ubuntu 12.04 where VMs don't display anything. I assumed it was an Ubuntu bug, but maybe not. Pretend the UI is there. Do you see activity if you log in?"
[21:47] <kdfree> And worst case, can you try a VNC session?
[21:47] <kdfree> Maybe it's booting, just not displaying?
[21:48] <darkseid> kdfree: Is your nick a reference to KDE?
[21:48] <heebie_> kdfree: I can't get logged in.. the VM hasn't been installed.  It is possible that it's booting but not displaying.
[21:48] <chris__> @ heebie_ kdfree YOU GUYS are the BEST. it works now!!! so sweet
[21:48] <metulburr> is there a known error with ubuntu 14.04 and netbooks? the live is acting abnormal (no installer, not allowing to access internet or temrinal)
[21:48] <kdfree> darkseid: No. My name is Kevin Darien Freeheart. It's an initialization of my name.
[21:49] <darkseid> kdfree: It works with the kde backports enabled?
[21:49] <darkseid> ppa
[21:49] <kdfree> chris__: Glad it's working for you. :) Do you understand what happened now?
[21:49] <chris__> kdfree: I dunno how it happened. but yeah the UUIDs didnt match
[21:50] <heebie_> chris__: Do you understand what a UUID is?
[21:50] <kdfree> darkseid: I would personally avoid the PPA packages with a new release being this close. Many of the features may be in 14.04... I don't know, honestly.
[21:50] <chris__> kdfree: but I know how to fix it in the future
[21:50] <chris__> heebie_: I assume its one of the names/addresses of a partition
[21:51] <kdfree> chris__: When you create a new filesystem (formatting), it creates a new UUID. Somewhere between the install and the reformatting, you changed how the filesystem was described, and the installed wasn't able to make sense of the chance. :)
[21:51] <heebie_> chris__: Universal Unique IDentifier.  (in theory, there shouldn't be another one with that UUID anywhere.)  Most things in systems now have a UUID, not just disk-drives.  NIC's etc..
[21:51] <darkseid> kdfree: I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340719/
[21:52] <chris__> ok cool
[21:52] <kdfree> It's annoying, but very useful. Git uses the same mechanism (sorta) to watch every change to a system. :)
[21:52] <chris__> I'm so happy it works now
[21:52] <chris__> and I think I understand the concept a bit more
[21:53] <kdfree> darkseid: I would suggest disabling the backports or PPA repos. I ran into a similar issue with kde-desktop the other day.
[21:53] <kdfree> Also, sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update to make sure you have the latest versions of all repos.
[21:54] <kdfree> Ubuntu 14.04 is like... a week old. KDE hasn't released since then, so there's no clear benefit to using backports or PPAs just yet.
[22:02] <heebie_> kdfree: Did I see you mentioning cached partitions, potentially on LVM? (you were talking about encrypted LUKS partitions, I think.. don't know at what layer the cacheing would be.)  I'm using ZFS myself, with ZIL for write-cache on SSD's, and l2arc for read-cache, also on SSD's.
[22:03] <ppq> hi. i have two android phones, both with CM11 and MTP enabled. one is being recognized in xubuntu 14.04 with gvfs fuse mtp, but the sony xperia z1 compact is not. what can i do about that?
[22:03] <kdfree> heebie_: Yeah. Using bcache.
[22:03] <heebie_> What layer does bcache sit at?  (I've never heard of it before today.. I've learned a few new things today) ;)
[22:04] <Jakdaw_> Can someone help me with netboot installer for trusty? I've used it before (precise/quantal) but if I boot with the trusty kernel & initrd.gz I just get an error before reaching the installer. This a known change/problem?
[22:04] <ForSpareParts> Just installed 14.04, and I'm really not digging the new window dragging/resizing behavior -- specifically, the way that windows seem to "follow" after your cursor instead of just moving with it. Is there a way to change it back?
[22:05] <coleman-> hello. I am pretty new to ubuntu and I am trying to install F.lux program. I followed instructions on the page, but after entering `sudo apt-get install fluxgui' I am getting this: fluxgui : Depends: python-support (>= 0.90.0) but it is not installable. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[22:05] <coleman-> I have python installed btw
[22:08] <heebie_> kdfree: researching now.. don't need an answer. :)
[22:08] <kdfree> heebie_: I missed the question.  So much irrelevant into.
[22:10] <lvfjf> nice share
[22:10] <bananapie> Just got back from a Ubuntu 14.04 launch party. They upgraded me from 10.04 to 14.04 :D:D:D
[22:10] <bananapie> And my laptop works well :)
[22:11] <heebie_> bananapie: Did they upgrade your live system from 10.04 to 14.04, or just install over the 10.04?
[22:11] <bananapie> Nope. Clean install. But they fixed my driver issues.
[22:11] <reisio> kdfree: hit the options thing at top left
[22:12] <reisio> bananapie: boring :/
[22:12] <bananapie> turns out all I needed was a kernel option :P
[22:12] <bananapie> radeon.dpm=1 :)
[22:12] <reisio> that happens :p
[22:12] <heebie_> bananapie: I'd love to see an upgrade path from 10.04 to 14.04, but there probably won't be one.  (I could send out a howto to customers, so they could ignore it entirely, after which we could say "We TOLD You to upgrade"
[22:12] <reisio> heebie_: there is one
[22:12] <reisio> but I dare say the people able to write one typically aren't interested in such a procedure already :p
[22:12] <bananapie> I'm going to upgrade all my work computers to ubuntu 14.04 this week. Everyone is still on 10.04
[22:13] <heebie_> reisio: I know there is one from 12.04 and later, but from 10.04 to 14.04?
[22:13] <reisio> upgrading is very simple in essence
[22:13] <reisio> you replace old data with new
[22:13] <reisio> it's not rocket science :)
[22:13] <bananapie> Upgrading means erase everything except /home and reinstall :)
[22:13] <heebie_> It is when your average customer doesn't know what "CLI" means.
[22:13] <psusi> bananapie, no, upgrading means upgrading
[22:13] <reisio> oh you don't need to get them involved
[22:14] <bananapie> :P
[22:14] <glenn_> Sorry, I'm brasilian and don't understand so much English.
[22:14] <glenn_> But
[22:14] <jrib> heebie_: 10.04 -> 12.04 -> 14.04
[22:14] <heebie_> bananapie: saving configs, and DB data etc.. etc.., those usually aren't in /home/
[22:14] <bananapie> Right. But I'm talking about desktops here.
[22:14] <heebie_> jrib: Oh.. silly me! ;)
[22:14] <bananapie> Servers are a pain in the arse to upgrade.
[22:14] <psusi> I've never had any trouble
[22:14] <glenn_> I have problems with width of icons
[22:15] <heebie_> bananapie: For some of us.. our desktops are every bit as complex, if not more (if not SIGNIFICANTLY more) than most servers.
[22:15] <glenn_> Recently I installed Xubuntu and it's so bigger
[22:15] <bananapie> I am going to try out awesome wm, the guy at the party said it was awesome
[22:15] <heebie_> Awesome is fantastic, especially if you need a lot of text terminals.. like a Linux admin tends to.
[22:16] <heebie_> I don't use awesome at home, but that's what I have at work for sure.
[22:16] <reisio> heebie_: no it's awesome...
[22:16] <reisio> glenn_: that's configurable
[22:16] <reisio> glenn_: talking about desktop icons?
[22:16] <glenn_> Yeah
[22:16] <glenn_> and navigator
[22:16] <bananapie> I just realized the release party I went to was a week late and not registered :O
[22:16] <reisio> bananapie: wmii is a little more intuitive out of the box than awesome, IMO
[22:16] <glenn_> All is so bigger
[22:16] <reisio> but its name is less... awesome :p
[22:16] <reisio> glenn_: navigator as in file manager?
[22:16] <heebie_> bananapie: Hopefully they weren't hackers installing malware on your computer along with the OS then. =OP
[22:17] <reisio> glenn_: hold CTRL and turn the mouse wheel
[22:17] <bananapie> :)
[22:17] <bananapie> nope, the guy told me how to fix my issue and I looked it up on the Ubuntu Wiki. And now it works.
[22:17] <glenn_> haha I not tried hold CTRL hahaha
[22:17] <reisio> glenn_: :p
[22:17] <heebie_> bananapie: ever tried banoffee pie?  If not, you should!
[22:17] <glenn_> I'll try this and back to say results :D
[22:17] <glenn_> Thanks
[22:18] <glenn_> Sorry if my english is bad haha
[22:18] <glenn_> :p
[22:18] <reisio> banoffee?
[22:18] <reisio> snaparoo... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banoffee_pie
[22:18] <bananapie> I only have 4gigs of memory, should I use the 64-bit or 32-bit version /
[22:18] <bananapie> ?*
[22:19] <heebie_> glenn: Your english seems alright to me.  A lot of Brasilians come here to Dublin to study English. Perhaps some of them taught you! ;)
[22:19] <reisio> bananapie: you should use 64-bit if your _processor_ is a 64-bit processor
[22:19] <glenn_> So
[22:19] <reisio> this is the only criterion one should consider
[22:19] <heebie_> reisio: banoffee = banana & toffee
[22:19] <reisio> heebie_: nom
[22:19] <glenn_> Use CTRL don't result :(
[22:19] <bananapie> ok thanks
[22:19] <reisio> glenn_: in thunar?
[22:19] <glenn_> Thanks heebie_ ^^
[22:19] <glenn_> thunar ?
[22:20] <reisio> bananapie: grep ' lm' /proc/cpuinfo &>/dev/null && echo 'your proc is 64-bit'
[22:20] <OerHeks> lscpu
[22:20] <reisio> glenn_: thunar is Xfce's file manager's name
[22:20] <bananapie> My cpu is 64-bit, I know that already. The question was whether I should installed 64-bit
[22:21] <glenn_> oh, i don't know
[22:21] <heebie_> bananapie: If your CPU is 64-bit, then yes, install 64-bit.
[22:21] <bananapie> Ok. Thanks :)
[22:21] <reisio> bananapie: right :)
[22:21] <reisio> glenn_: and you want the icons a different size in the file manager?
[22:21] <OerHeks> 64 bit uses more and longer registers and all features
[22:22] <glenn_> No
[22:22] <bananapie> I haven't been this excited about ubuntu since 8.04
[22:22] <glenn_> all is so bigger, no just the icons but all
[22:23] <heebie_> glenn: Sounds like you have to change your screen resolution.
[22:24] <glenn_> I was tried configure on aparence settings, menu editor, theme configuration, workspaces
[22:24] <reisio> ah, indeed
[22:24] <glenn_> window manager, window manager tweeks
[22:24] <django> How do I know if jQuery is installed on my ubuntu computer (12.04)?
[22:24] <glenn_> and anything results
[22:24] <glenn_> :(
[22:24] <lvfjf> jQuery is not installed, you link in your html source
[22:24] <ubuntoer> hello there. I`ve booted lubuntu and installed it, however, it won`t boot from disk and ``boot repair`` didn`t work also
[22:25] <django> lvfjf,  what
[22:25] <Beldar> ubuntoer, Bootinfo summary from bootrepair?
[22:25] <ubuntoer> the grub menu shows but after that the cursos keeps blinking forever (top left)
[22:25] <glenn_> So, change resolutions don't result :(
[22:25] <lvfjf> django: <script src="jquery.js"></script>
[22:25] <Beldar> !nomodeset ubuntoer
[22:26] <Beldar> !nomodeset | ubuntoer
[22:26] <ubuntoer> Beldar: boot repair asked me to enter some commands but one of them returns an error: E: Unable to locate package linux
[22:26] <ubuntoer> the command: sudo chroot "/mnt/boot-sav/sda4" apt-get install -y --force-yes grub-pc linux
[22:26] <heebie_> glenn_: Go to system settings, then to display and monitor, and you should be able to set the resolution there.  It's probably set to 640x480 or 800x600 now. Set it to the maximum that your monitor can do.
[22:27] <Beldar> ubuntoer, You sure your not just missing a graphic driver now to boot, try the nomodeset link.
[22:27] <reisio> django: do you mean node.js?
[22:27] <ubuntoer> Beldar: ok, i`ll try. thank you.
[22:27] <django> reisio, no
[22:27] <glenn_> Oh , i'm using a notebook... Can this change something ?
[22:28] <reisio> jquery is just a(n enormous) JS lib, it comes as a single text file
[22:28] <reisio> it's not something you install on an OS
[22:29] <reisio> glenn_: yes, but not many things
[22:29] <django> Im getting this in console: GET file:///home/jonathan/jquery.js net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
[22:29] <reisio> django: you should put the file somewhere in your web root
[22:29] <django> reisio, idk where the file is
[22:29] <reisio> django: it may well be in user jonathan's home directory
[22:29] <heebie_> django: You probably don't have jquery.js at /home/jonathan/jquery.js It's probably somewhere else, so your code or configuration needs to be adjusted to compensate.
[22:30] <heebie_> django: `find ~/jonathan -type f -name jquery.js` should tell you where it is.
[22:30] <glenn_> resio, don't results
[22:30] <glenn_> :(
[22:30] <reisio> glenn_: hrmm?
[22:30] <reisio> also, I'm not here to babysit little girls, so relax with the frownies :p
[22:31] <django> fGET file:///home/jonathan/jquery.js net::ERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND
[22:31] <django> err sorry
[22:31] <glenn_> Not work, change the resolutions in display
[22:31] <glenn_> Just exist one resolution
[22:32] <glenn_> 640x480
[22:32] <heebie_> glenn: ok, so you don't have a "proper" driver for your video card, so it's using the generic VGA driver.
[22:32] <django> heebie_, this: 'find ~/jonathan -type f -name jquery.js
[22:32] <reisio> no
[22:32] <glenn_> And can I change this ?
[22:32] <reisio> ~/, not ~/jonathan
[22:32] <heebie_> django: yes, but without the ` at the beginning.
[22:32] <reisio> or /home/
[22:32] <reisio> ~/jonathan will likely be nonexistant
[22:32] <heebie_> django: actually I meant ~jonathan  no slash in between there. sorry.
[22:33] <heebie_> django: reisio might be right, jonathan might very well not exist, depending on what the server is that's dishing out the content.
[22:33] <reisio> long way to type '~' :p
[22:33] <lvfjf> django: download the jquery, rename the file to jquery.js, save the file in ~/jonathan
[22:34] <django> lvfjf, where can i get jQuery for ubuntu 12.04??
[22:34] <glenn_> I'll be back :p
[22:34] <lvfjf> django: http://jquery.com/download/
[22:34] <heebie_> django: jquery isn't "for" an operating system.   We have visitors of all age ranges, and people with different toleration levels of that type of language.
[22:37] <django> sorry
[22:37] <winterowl> Hi all, I couldn't find anything recent about this topic, but I would like to download a DRM-protected eBook. I understand that the traditional way is to use Adobe Digital Editions, but my netbook won't handle wine+ADE. Is there another solution? (I don't particularly care if the ePub file behind it remains encrypted)
[22:38] <lvfjf> django: www.w3schools.org
[22:39] <lvfjf> django: www.w3schools.com
[22:39] <reisio> he means http://www.w3fools.com/
[22:39] <reisio> :p
[22:39] <glenn_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter (rev 10)
[22:39] <reisio> winterowl: won't handle?
[22:40] <wheresmypaaants> Alrighty, just got an issue putting an unallocated partition into my windows partition. It simply says An error occured. I will be posting the details shortly.
[22:40] <lvfjf> reisio: the site works
[22:40] <winterowl> reisio, likely not. it's pretty weak.
[22:40] <reisio> winterowl: "decryption" is simple, but you have to have a certain environment to download them in the first place, IME
[22:40] <reisio> winterowl: not really a intense process... give it a try
[22:40] <reisio> an intense*
[22:40] <winterowl> reisio, yeah, I can decrypt it, I just need to get the file behind the .acsm license.
[22:41] <heebie_> I'm having a problem under Ubuntu 12.04 where I cant get a Windows 7 VM (KVM/libvirtd) to run at all.  It keeps getting killed by apparmor.   My other VM's work fine.  I've looked at about a dozen articles found via google, and not one of them gives a working fix.  Has anyone run across this?
[22:41] <winterowl> hmm... i'll give it a try, but with 1gb of ram, I don't have high hopes :P
[22:41] <reisio> 1gb is plenty
[22:41] <reisio> it's just a glorified download manager
[22:42]  * winterowl raises an eyebrow
[22:42] <winterowl> I'll give it a try :)
[22:42] <heebie_> SiS? Wow. I haven't seen an SiS adapter in at least 10 years.
[22:42] <wheresmypaaants> Alright, here are the GParted Details it gave me after attempting to put an unallocated partition into my windows partition
[22:42] <wheresmypaaants> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340975/
[22:42] <reisio> wheresmypaaants: hrmm?
[22:43] <wheresmypaaants> reisio: hrrrmmmmmmm
[22:43] <reisio> wheresmypaaants: what're you trying to accomplish?
[22:43] <django> works thanks all
[22:44] <wheresmypaaants> Okay, I initially made my Windows7 partition 75G, but I dont have enough space anymore, so I want to add 50G. I shrunk my main partition down by 50G and attempted to take the unallocated partition and put it into the Windows partition, but it gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7340975/
[22:46] <ubuntu> m,.
[22:46] <heebie_> wheresmypaaants: The error you posted doesn't sound unusual to me, and it tells you what to do.  But, if your "main" partition is before your windows partition, then the partition would have to start earlier on the disk, so it would have had to move some structures around and done weird things to accomplish the move.  If your "main" partition is after your windows partition, then it would have to do even weirder things.
[22:46] <wheresmypaaants> heebie_: So the GpartedDetails will help me fix it?
[22:47] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: What probably happened is that the space you gained by shrinking the linux partition is at the end of the partition, which is not adjacent to the windows partition, and therefore can't be added to it.
[22:47] <wheresmypaaants> :(
[22:47] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: There are ways to span partitions in windows, but it's not a good idea.
[22:47] <jhutchins> wheresmypaaants: Any time you mess with partitions, you make a backup first, right?
[22:47] <reisio> so much simpler to use two separate disks
[22:47] <reisio> or even better, pick one OS
[22:47] <wheresmypaaants> *laughs nervously* of course.....
[22:48] <fabio123> is there a way to get adobe reader workign on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit?
[22:48] <reisio> now stop frowning like a tiny infant :p
[22:48] <reisio> fabio123: it's called 'acroread', works fine
[22:48] <heebie_> reisio: I just use one OS on the hardware, then as many as I want or need in VM's.
[22:48] <wheresmypaaants> reisio: Well, if you bought me an external HDD, that would rock!
[22:48] <wheresmypaaants> :P
[22:48] <fabio123> reisio, how?