[13:15] <cyford>   for samba gui
[13:15] <hitsujiTMO> !webmin | cyford no you can't
[13:16] <pip__> would you chaps advise cli or gui for config - I think mixing the 2 may be asking for more trouble?
[13:16] <cyford> wow
[13:16] <cyford>   i noticed for networking
[13:16] <cyford>   lol
[13:17] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: cli is always good for me, but a few of the top contributers hare have suggested swat as a web based gui for samba
[13:17] <onizu> bekks, it is 32-bit
[13:17] <pip__> ha - my bookmark list on firefox is expanding rapidly
[13:17] <onizu> bekks, and my os is 64-bit
[13:18] <pip__> hitsujiTMO: think I'm going to try CLI, to get over my fear of it
[13:18] <bekks> onizu: And the mesa package that is already installed - is it 32 or 64bit?
[13:19] <onizu> bekks, how do i find out?
[13:19] <cyford> I wish i had a hot geeky linux girl next door
[13:19] <onizu> bekks, it just says libglu1-mesa
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep mesa
[13:20] <bekks> onizu: What is "it"?
[13:20] <onizu> cyford, why next door? why not at your home?
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, terminal
[13:20] <cyford> lol    So true
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, libglu1-mesa is already the newest version.
[13:20] <onizu> bekks, when i tried to install it
[13:20] <cyford> probably both be on the pc all day anyway
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: sudo apt-get install libglu1-mesa:i386
[13:21] <onizu> cyford, on the pc? what do you mean?
[13:21] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | cyford
[13:21] <onizu> libglu1-mesa:i386 is already the newest version.
[13:21] <onizu> libglu1-mesa:i386 set to manually installed.
[13:21] <cyford> opps
[13:22] <cyford> ok
[13:22] <onizu> join it cyford
[13:23] <cyford> ok  1 sec
[13:23] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, so it is installed
[13:23] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: yup. what exactly are you trying to run?
[13:23] <threesom1> Hi, I'm trying to use 'feh' to set the background, but I read that I'm supposed to disable Nautilus from controlling the desktop first (feh isn't working for me now) by doing "$ gconftool-2 --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop --type boolean false" but this command doesn't work on Ubuntu 13.10. Any idea how I can get Nautilus or Gnome not to control the desktop so I can get feh to do it for me?
[13:23] <Janhouse> How can I disable plymout?
[13:24] <Janhouse> xubuntu 12.04 uses plymoyth, right?
[13:24] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, /opt/dassault-systemes/DraftSight/Linux/DraftSight
[13:24] <onizu> hitsujiTMO, i installed it via a .deb
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> Janhouse: remove "splash" from /etc/default/grub        and then run: sudo update-grub
[13:25] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: what happens when you try to run it?
[13:25] <koell> hi i would like to create a bootable usb stick with windows xp on it. can i use dd the same way like i create an ubuntu stick?
[13:25] <Janhouse> thx!
[13:26] <triplc> koell: i tried that before but it did not work
[13:27] <Janhouse> also, what the hell is "Loading saved state from the serial device" that takes so long during boot?
[13:27] <tux_> hello all!
[13:28] <tux_> how made energy saving for slitaz ?
[13:28] <mariuszdo> hello everyone
[13:28] <hitsujiTMO> onizu: have you tried running: sudo apt-get -f install
[13:29] <onizu> yeah
[13:29] <onizu> hey, it ran this time.. oddly
[13:29] <onizu> i think something got installed / fixed after i  installed wine
[13:29] <onizu> anyways, thanks
[13:30] <onizu> hi harshadura
[13:30] <onizu> how many here are from india?
[13:30] <tux_> onizu, i from russia)
[13:31] <MDK>  /join #systemd
[13:31] <ian_5426745> hi, how can I reset my nickname password?
[13:31] <onizu> tux_, привет
[13:31] <tux_> onizu, hi)
[13:32] <FourFire> Hello
[13:32] <FourFire> I have mounted an iso file and I want to find it's path
[13:32] <FourFire> how can I most easily do this?
[13:32] <bekks> Where have you mounted it to? :)
[13:32] <koell> is ther eno way to install windows xp on a usb stick in ubuntu?
[13:32] <FourFire> it's on "network"
[13:32] <bekks> koell: No.
[13:33] <FourFire> I mounted it by rightclicking it in nautilus
[13:33] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you find it in: mount
[13:33] <koell> Oo
[13:33] <FourFire> you mean /mnt/ ?
[13:33] <bekks> FourFire: No. "mount"
[13:33] <bekks> FourFire: Thats a command to be typed into your terminal.
[13:33] <koell> i know its not supported anymore, but i need xp :(
[13:34] <FourFire> ah right
[13:34] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: no mount the command. I'd expect it to be mounted in: /media/$USER
[13:34] <bekks> koell: Whatever you need, there is no way to install XP on a USB, neither there is such a way using Ubuntu.
[13:34] <FourFire> stuff came up from that command, but I don't know how to interpret it
[13:36] <FourFire> In /media/ there is only a single file called apt
[13:36] <FourFire> and I'm not allowed to look inside
[13:36] <stefg> FourFire: So did you mount the ISO using the GUI (clicked on it) or by command line (like mount -o loop some.iso /mnt) ?
[13:36] <FourFire> GUI
[13:36] <FourFire> I tried via command, but I couldn't get it to work for some reason...
[13:36] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[13:37] <bekks> FourFire: the mount command you tried told you the reasons :)
[13:37] <FourFire> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6861382/
[13:37] <FourFire> is line 13 it?
[13:37] <FourFire> .gvfs
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: Thats the gnome virtual file system pseudo mount stuff. Not what you are looking for,
[13:38] <FourFire> bekks, nope the command only outputted instructions on how to properly use the command
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: If you want a path to your "mount", then you have to mount it using the "mount" command.
[13:38] <FourFire> alright
[13:38] <bekks> FourFire: So you didnt use the command properly.
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: i don't see any mounted iso
[13:39] <FourFire> ok, I'll unmount and remount it via terminal
[13:39] <FourFire> I can see the file mounted in the side menu in nautilus
[13:39] <bekks> FourFire: And it is not mounted using a file path.
[13:39] <FourFire> but it's under "Network" and not "Computer", like other devices mount
[13:40] <ian_5426746> is nickserv broken?? it tells me I have invalid password
[13:40] <bekks> FourFire: If you want to access using a filepath, you have to mount it using the mount command.
[13:40] <FourFire> yeah, proceeding
[13:41] <mariuszdo> hello again ... can anyone of you tell me how to find out which ubuntu i should use for a computer that's a bunch of miles away from me?
[13:41] <ian_5426746> after registering it 5 mins ago
[13:41] <mariuszdo> it's a hp probook 4540s
[13:41] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: it may be in the gvfs is its mounted under network then. Sign that something may have gone a bit wrong tho. Just tested here and iso's mount under devices and show up in mount output clearly
[13:41] <ikonia> ian_5426746: talk to #freenode
[13:41] <mariuszdo> and i'm currently browsing through your wiki and searchengines
[13:41] <ian_5426746> ok sorry, wrong room
[13:42] <mariuszdo> hello again ... can anyone of you tell me how to find out which ubuntu i should use for a computer (hp probook 4540s) that's a bunch of miles away from me? ... i just need to be able to boot the system via a live-cd ... and mount an external hard disk and copy some files
[13:43] <ikonia> mariuszdo: which ever one you want
[13:43] <bekks> mariuszdo: 12.04
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> mariuszdo: 12.04 or 13.10
[13:44] <mariuszdo> thanks for your answers ... can you further elaborate why you made this suggestion?
[13:44] <stefg> mariuszdo: To really judge that it would be more important to know what this computer is meant to do, not where it is located. Like all Unices Ubuntu is quite network transparent, so having the box on your desk or half around the globe doesn't matter that much
[13:44] <bekks> mariuszdo: Because that the current LTS version with the longest support.
[13:44] <FourFire> marienz, don't use Ubuntu 14.04 or anything that was last updated in 2008
[13:44] <FourFire> otherwise, anything goes
[13:44] <bekks> FourFire: 14.4 isnt even released.
[13:44] <FourFire> bekks, exactly
[13:44] <bekks> FourFire: And 12.04 gets updates until 2017.
[13:45] <FourFire> it's also horribly broken
[13:45] <bekks> FourFire: Which is FUD, honestly.
[13:45] <FourFire> well it needs to be fixed before Canonical can officially release it
[13:45] <ikonia> FourFire: just stop talking please
[13:45] <ikonia> FourFire: unless you can actually add value with factual help/support, please stop
[13:47] <mariuszdo> ok ... well ... the following question may sound strange but ... when i plug in a usb-hdd ... do they usually work without me having to do something?
[13:47] <mariuszdo> and is it bad to still use the 32bit-versions?
[13:47] <ikonia> it's never been bad to use 32bit versions
[13:47] <mariuszdo> : )
[13:47] <stefg> mariuszdo: usually on the desktop editions of ubuntu the disk gets auto-mounted under /media
[13:48] <mariuszdo> thanks ;)
[13:48] <mariuszdo> and well i had to ask ...
[13:49] <FourFire> this isn't mounting
[13:49] <mariuszdo> i wasn't that sure about all that any more ... sorry ... am a little nervous ;)
[13:49] <yeats> FourFire: are you using 14.04?
[13:49] <FourFire> and it's not saying what the error is either
[13:49] <stefg> mariuszdo: if you never plan to have more than 4G of ram 32-bit is fine... only exceptions maybe boxes which do video transcoding.  number crunching is best done on 64bit
[13:49] <FourFire> yeats, nope 12.04
[13:49] <mariuszdo> well stefg ... i'm just trying to backup some files from the computer ...
[13:49] <bekks> mariuszdo: When your hardware is capable of 64bit, just use 64bit.
[13:50] <mariuszdo> and later try reinstalling everything if i'm asked to do that as well
[13:50] <t0by> Hi, sorry... what should I install to have the ctime.h header?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: you should ask that in ##c
[13:50] <FourFire> the command IS "sudo mount -o loop /directory/path/name.iso /mnt/" isn't it?
[13:50] <stefg> yup
[13:51] <t0by> hitsujiTMO, well, it's a very ubuntu (or at least debian) specific question.
[13:51] <mariuszdo> brb
[13:51] <FourFire> let me try putting the file in root directory
[13:51] <ikonia> why not try random things
[13:51] <ikonia> rather than actually play thought into trouble shooting the problem
[13:51] <FourFire> there's something odd which happened to my /Home/home/ directory
[13:51] <t0by> hitsujiTMO,  If I asked that in ##c I guess they would tell me "refer to your distro/compiler's docs/supports ;)"
[13:52] <FourFire> I have two layers because of some BS I did earlier and I'm too scared to fix it just yet
[13:53] <t0by> FourFire, "yo dawg etc" :P
[13:53] <FourFire> ikonia, well I don't really know at all how operating systems are supposed to work, so if you can add anything I'd be glad.
[13:54] <ikonia> FourFire: you'll get help if you state the problem clearly with any useful information, rather than just commentating on the random things you are doing
[13:55] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: it seems to be a base header. how are you tring to include it?
[13:55] <FourFire> ikonia, I am trying to mount an iso file. I need to use this file in PoL so once I do that I need the path
[13:55] <ikonia> FourFire: POL ?
[13:55] <ikonia> FourFire: what ISO ?
[13:55] <FourFire> PlayOnLinux
[13:56] <FourFire> a program .iso
[13:56] <ikonia> ok, and at that point I'm out as you can't be bothered to answer my questions clearly
[13:56] <ikonia> I asked what iso - you said " a program iso" - good luck
[13:56] <FourFire> right.
[13:56] <stefg> !iso
[13:59] <mariuszdo> i see 12.04.3 is 707 MB in size ... i'll need a dvd for that then, right?
[13:59] <ikonia> correct
[13:59] <mariuszdo> ok
[14:00] <mariuszdo> would 13.10 contain better drivers for the notebook i mentioned before ikonia ? what do you think?
[14:00] <mariuszdo> i haven't really yet decided ;)
[14:00] <stefg> mariuszdo: consider a usb-stick... optical media in general DO suck. slow and unreliable...
[14:00] <ikonia> mariuszdo: what do you care ? you said you just wanted to mount a disk and copy off some files
[14:00] <hitsujiTMO> t0by: yup just checked. It's a base header. you don't need to install anything specific
[14:00] <ikonia> mariuszdo: just do exactly that,
[14:01] <mariuszdo> stefg ... i don't have one yet :) and i can't buy one at the moment
[14:01] <MoleMan> how can I rename a network interface in Ubuntu-Server 13.04? all the instructions I can find say to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules which doesn't exist
[14:01] <mariuszdo> i just want everything to run smoothly ;) ikonia
[14:01] <ikonia> MoleMan: rename them to what
[14:01] <ikonia> mariuszdo: right, so do what you've been advised to do
[14:02] <stefg> mariuszdo: Oh, i see... a case of Murphy's Law. F**ked'up windows box and no media or money at hand :-}
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> is 13.04 still supported?
[14:02] <MoleMan> ikonia: from em1 to eth0
[14:02] <ikonia> stefg: there is no need for that language, please don't use it again
[14:02] <ikonia> MoleMan: that is not done with the persistant net file
[14:02] <ikonia> MoleMan: you should use the correct device name, which is em1
[14:03] <hitsujiTMO> MonkeyDust: no
[14:03] <mariuszdo> stefg ... 1) no need to curse ;) ... 2) yes, from what i heard ... windows was installed on this computer
[14:03] <MoleMan> ikonia: fine, if you're going to insist on not answering the question, why is em1 used instead of eth0, and why shouldn't I rename it to eth0?
[14:04] <ikonia> MoleMan: I've just answered the questio and thrown in some extra info.
[14:04] <MoleMan> no you didn't, you refused to answer the question and said I shouldn't instead
[14:05] <ikonia> MoleMan: I told you it wasn't configured where you thought it was, and explained that you shouldn't be trying to change it,
[14:05] <MoleMan> AKA didn't answer the question
[14:05] <ikonia> ok, good luck then
[14:05] <MoleMan> regardless, could you answer my other two questions please?
[14:05] <ikonia> trying to be smart, gets you no discussion
[14:06] <MoleMan> ikonia: I tried to discuss it and ask you follow up questions, you started arguing
[14:06] <ikonia> MoleMan: AKA trying to be smart
[14:06] <t0by> MoleMan, wtf
[14:06] <ikonia> t0by: there is no need for the language, please don't
[14:06] <t0by> hitsujiTMO, of course I was compiling with gcc instead of g++ :-<
[14:07] <MoleMan> ikonia: stop getting butthurt over someone saying wtf
[14:07] <t0by> (Not my fault though, bogus makefile)
[14:07] <MoleMan> t0by: what?
[14:07] <t0by> LOL.
[14:08] <MoleMan> aaw, sweet, the 6 year old can't handle being mature so likes to flex his op instead
[14:08] <MoleMan> thanks for the help
[14:13] <stefg> On a fresh 13.10/64bit install pulse audio decided to make the HDMI output the default audio output device set. This is quite annoying, since i have to switch over to analog headphones everytime i log in.  I tried http://superuser.com/questions/137805/set-default-system-audio-output-port-for-all-accounts  and http://askubuntu.com/questions/14077/how-can-i-change-the-default-audio-device-from-comma
[14:13] <stefg> nd-line, but it didn't work out. Still HDMI  is selected after login.   Some pulseaudio expert ready to help?
[14:14] <stefg> !sound
[14:14] <DarkAceXtreme> is Ubuntu 13 going to be slower than 10? it's on a very old machine
[14:14] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: probably
[14:14] <stefg> aplay -l output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6861538/
[14:14] <ikonia> in terms of raw computing, no, in terms of user experience, probably
[14:15] <DarkAceXtreme> is xubuntu what I want, then?
[14:15] <ikonia> why do you need/want to change ?
[14:15] <DarkAceXtreme> 10 is a little outdated, and my USB belkin wireless isn't working
[14:15] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: how old is "old"
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> I recently moved the PC, and I kind of need the wireless USB
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> 10.04
[14:16] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: what sort of hardware
[14:16] <ikonia> no, that's the OS, I'm talking about the PC,
[14:16] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: what processor do you have? how much ram?
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> o that
[14:16] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: Can you define "old machine" in terms of CPU/Ram?
[14:16] <DarkAceXtreme> 2GB RAM
[14:17] <DarkAceXtreme> hold on
[14:17]  * stefg considers a Pentium III with 256 MB an "old machine" . Lucid/openbox ran pretty well on it...
[14:18] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: 12.04 should run fine. For light use ubuntu should fine, for heavier use swich down to lubuntu/xubuntu too free up some more ram
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> stefg  to the youngest among us, 6 months is "old"
[14:18] <DarkAceXtreme> Processor 0/1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+
[14:19] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: That's recent enough to chew up everything you throw at it, IMHO.
[14:19] <FourFire> ikonia, I decided to just burn the .iso to a disk, thanks for your help.
[14:20] <DarkAceXtreme> but I run an IRC client that sucks up everything possible
[14:20] <ikonia> FourFire: I didn't help, I refused to help you, so no idea why you are thanking me, even sarcastically
[14:20] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: really ? what client is that ?
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> its settings is what makes it suck up everything possible, I mean
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> xchat/hexchat
[14:21] <FourFire> ikonia, no, you made me realize that if I required this much help then it would actualy be easier to take an alternative route
[14:21] <DarkAceXtreme> 1000+ channels
[14:21] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that really shouldn't take up that much resources, thats more network traffic
[14:22] <DarkAceXtreme> my hard drive is slow at writing, I guess
[14:22] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that really shouldn't be a problem
[14:22] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: 1000+ channels? are you using it for spam or something?
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> yes of course
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> no
[14:23] <ikonia> that is a lot of channels, true
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> when there's a netsplit, though, the whole client freezes up for so long that it pings out on all the networks
[14:23] <DarkAceXtreme> so it freezes up longer
[14:23] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: Ever considered a super-cluster of raspberry pis for that job? :-)
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I guess it's because of a slow disk, then
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> lol
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I thought about getting one of those
[14:24] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that's not going to be disk
[14:24] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: that's network buffering
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> I was on wired previously
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> and yes, it logs every single quit
[14:24] <ikonia> it's still going to buffer a huge hit
[14:24] <hitsujiTMO> ikonia: or its the logging causing it
[14:24] <DarkAceXtreme> to disc, in two different locations
[14:25] <ikonia> hitsujiTMO: it is possible, but the logging should only be commit to disk,
[14:25] <ikonia> so the performance shouldn't kill it, but you could also calm the logging down
[14:25] <DarkAceXtreme> every single person that was on the server gets a quit message, and when you're on 50 channels of the network, that's a lot of writing
[14:25] <DarkAceXtreme> so installing Ubuntu 13 won't make this any worse?
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: no thats not going to make it worse
[14:26] <ikonia> the video card should be your real concern with ubuntu 13.10
[14:26] <ikonia> if it will support unity
[14:26] <hitsujiTMO> DarkAceXtreme: do you need logging?
[14:26] <stefg> DarkAceXtreme: you have a completely different set of problems than worrying if an application uses 1% or 1.1% of your CPU
[14:27] <DarkAceXtreme> what's the point of being in 1000 channels if you can't log them? :P
[14:27] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: serious question - why do you need 1000 channels ?
[14:27] <DarkAceXtreme> because it's fun
[14:27] <ikonia> you can't actually hope to particiapte in them, why do you need them
[14:28] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: "it's fun" - please, try to be honest at least
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> it's true
[14:28] <hitsujiTMO> and most channels will have online logs so you dont need to log
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> what do you want to hear?
[14:28] <ikonia> it's fun to type "join 1000" times ??? great
[14:28] <DarkAceXtreme> oh, now you don't believe me
[14:28] <imghost> lol
[14:28] <ikonia> DarkAceXtreme: just wanted to understand your goals to see if there was something we could do to make it work a little better for you
[14:28] <max3> i hosed something real good. i have a package dependency that synaptic says is unresolvable. so i go to manually install the dependency and in simultaneously almost every package on my system is marked to be removed, stuff like xorg, ubuntu-desktop
[14:28] <ikonia> max3: PPA ?
[14:29] <max3> ikonia: which ppa is the package in?
[14:29]  * stefg would think about an expensive switch, at least 2 or 3 trunked network ports and a fast SSD / raid array for that application....
[14:29] <max3> ikonia: is that what you're asking me?
[14:29] <ikonia> max3: no, I suspect the PPA is going to have caused the conflict, I'm asking if you are using PPA's
[14:30] <max3> ikonia: i am. i tried unchecking all the ones in synaptic that aren't canonical then it made me uninstall xorg and couldn't reinstall
[14:30] <ikonia> max3: unchecking them does nothing as the packages are already installed/the damage is already done
[14:31] <max3> ikonia: yes of course but i figured it would stop scanning for dependencies for those packages or something like that
[14:31] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ppa-purge is the correct way to remove ppas. what package did you install that did this?
[14:31] <ikonia> max3: it's like putting the knife away after you've stabbed yourself, the cut won't just not be there
[14:31] <max3> hitsujiTMO: latest intel graphics drivers
[14:32] <ikonia> so it's probably the whole xorg stack that's been updated
[14:32] <max3> what's the syntax for ppa purge
[14:32] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ... can i ask why you wanted to install that?
[14:32] <max3> because vmware wasn't giving me 3d support
[14:32] <ikonia> vmware won't....
[14:33] <max3> well there was a solution posted on askubuntu saying that it would
[14:35] <BentFranklin> Running 12.04 LTS:  #uname -r returns 3.2.0-58-generic-pae.  In /usr/src I have many other versions, from 36 to 57, with a couple missing.  Do I need them?
[14:35] <ikonia> BentFranklin: if you remove the packages they will go
[14:35] <BentFranklin> ikonia: Why don't they go when I upgrade?
[14:36] <ikonia> BentFranklin: because the packges don't get removed.
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> BentFranklin  you can use ubuntu-tweak to delete obsolote packages -- not in the repos, install it from the website
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[14:36] <hitsujiTMO> max3: since its the xorg stack has been upgraded, ppa-purge alone may not be able to bring it back to a stable state. try: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa/youused
[14:36] <ikonia> or don't
[14:36] <ikonia> there is no need to use ANY tool
[14:36] <ikonia> just uninstall the packages using the package manager that ubuntu provides
[14:36] <max3> hitsujiTMO: yes i'm doing that now
[14:37] <ikonia> there is zero need to use a 3rd party tool that is not in the repo
[14:37] <max3> that's silly
[14:37] <BentFranklin> ikonia;  So, #apt-get remove <what>?
[14:38] <ikonia> BentFranklin: the packages you want to remove, you can do this with the gui if you're not comfortable using the command line
[14:38] <max3> hitsujiTMO: "Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: glasen intel-driver"
[14:38] <stefg> There seems something to be going on with the xorg-edgers ppa. 2 days ago i too hosed a 12.04 system by apt-get upgrade. To be fair i have to admit that it had every ppa and the kitchen sink enabled, it was to be expected some time
[14:38] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: list your installed kernels with: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-
[14:38] <BentFranklin> ikonia:  I'm on server version, and I don;t mind using shell, just need to kinow what opackage to remove.
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> max3: did you remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[14:39] <max3> no
[14:39] <ikonia> BentFranklin: ok, so you should have the basic experience of being able to search your packages
[14:39] <ikonia> max3: you said you'd disabled them
[14:39] <ikonia> they can't read the package contents if you've disabled them
[14:39] <max3> ah okay
[14:39] <hitsujiTMO> max3: re enable the ppa then try again
[14:41] <max3> k
[14:41] <max3> it did stuff
[14:42] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: you will want to remove the linux-image-*-generic, linux-headers-* and linux-headers-*-generic for the kernel version you no longer want
[14:43] <mariuszdo> ok ... thanks everyone ... i'll try to be back later ... GOD loves you ... may HE also bless you :)
[14:43] <BentFranklin> ikonia: Thanks
[14:43] <BentFranklin> hitsujiTMO: Thanks
[14:43] <max3> is there a way to find out what i have installed from which ppa?
[14:45] <t0by> Sorry, somaen & folks - have you ever successfully compiled wmelite + bass under linux some time?
[14:45] <hitsujiTMO> max3: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-list-packages-from-ppa.html
[14:45] <t0by> i seemingly can't build bass.
[14:45] <max3> hitsujiTMO: thanks a lot
[14:46] <t0by> Sorry, wrong chan :P
[14:47] <max3> hitsujiTMO: that shows only packages installed this instance
[14:47] <max3> not all time
[14:47] <roast_> good morning folks, anyone here using ipv6 exclusively with ubuntu?
[14:48] <roast_> i timeout when connecting to servers after i issue "apt-get update"
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> max3: ahh, any old packages may have references removed
[14:48] <hitsujiTMO> so its hard to track them
[14:49] <max3> hitsujiTMO: actually reloading synaptic did it
[14:50] <roast_> can anyone reach security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::14)
[14:50] <ikonia> roast_: that host appears down
[14:51] <ikonia> roast_: it's other ip addresses appear to be responding fine
[14:52] <roast_> ikonia: :13 and :15?
[14:52] <ikonia> roast_: not checked all of them.
[14:53] <roast_> ikonia: OK, i have suspect it's a 'me' issue rather than ubuntu. i thought the same with morgan.freenode but i found out morgan gets ddos'd (ipv6) a lot
[14:53] <roast_> ikonia: -have
[14:53] <ikonia> roast_: well, that initial IP is dead for me too
[14:54] <roast_> i'm testing :15 , :18 right now
[14:54] <roast_> security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::19) is down
[14:55] <roast_> ah, ipv6, where script kiddies wreak havoc on early adopters
[14:56] <daftykin1> didn't realise IPv6 gets so much hassle
[14:59] <roast_> daftykins: it's part me, part them, don't let me fool you into thinking my setup is correct.
[15:00] <daftykins> hehe, what crazy have you got running to convolute things? :)
[15:01] <roast_> daftykins: ipv6 only ubuntu vm
[15:06] <pip__> when I follow these instructions I can see the folders I'd like to have access to froma another machine, but can't mount them - permission denied  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[15:06] <pip__> can anybody tell me why?
[15:07] <pip__> ubuntu 13.10, fresh install
[15:07] <daftykins> pip__: have you created a password with smbpasswd ?
[15:07] <daftykins> for your user
[15:08] <pip__> no, that's not in the instructions
[15:08] <daftykins> are you using security = user?
[15:08] <daftykins> and guest mode?
[15:08] <pip__> by the way at this point I'm trying to access the desired folders from another ubuntu machine
[15:08] <daftykins> and what process are you using to try and access it?
[15:09] <pip__> connect to server - which finds the folders no probs
[15:09] <pip__> from nautilus
[15:09] <uporot> onizu, ?
[15:09] <onizu> uporot, ?
[15:09] <pip__> I had security = user, changerd it to security = share
[15:09] <uporot> yes, i rename
[15:09] <pip__> the issue persists regardless
[15:10] <uporot> my old nickname is tux
[15:10] <onizu> oh
[15:10] <daftykins> pip__: i'm not familiar with that setting - but i'm sure it's going to be ruining things
[15:10] <onizu> :)
[15:10] <pip__> I've also tried to create the shares with system-config-samba tool  all to no avail
[15:10] <daftykins> O_O
[15:10] <daftykins> pip__: can you pastebin your smb.conf please
[15:10] <pip__> daftykins: lol, something is ruining things
[15:10] <daftykins> ;)
[15:11] <pip__> daftykins: I could if I knew where i was pastebinning it to#
[15:11] <daftykins> pip__: paste.ubuntu.com will work
[15:11] <daftykins> pip__: pastebin.com is also viable ;)
[15:12] <pip__> daftykins: ok, just a mo or 3
[15:13] <hitsujiTMO> pip__: security = share  is deprecated and should not be used
[15:13] <daftykins> ah a useful tip! ty hitsujiTMO :)
[15:13] <daftykins> that's definitely out then
[15:13] <pip__> daftykins: ok, that's a start innit
[15:14] <daftykins> so show us your smb.conf
[15:14] <daftykins> another good move is to install 'smbclient' on the other system and try using that. it's a CLI utility, so in a terminal you would type for example "smbclient \\IP address\sharename"
[15:15] <daftykins> then you'll see an smb:> prompt
[15:15] <pip__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6861848/
[15:15] <daftykins> "ls" in that would list the contents if it worked
[15:15] <pip__> thats the chappie
[15:15] <daftykins> pip__: so the path exists, yes? does it have any files in?
[15:15] <daftykins> ( /media/pip/Watchables/Series )
[15:16] <lars_> I have a problem with an installation of samba4, everytime I update the system i get an old error msg that say it cant find the recorses for samba4, it doesnt effect my computer its just a little bit annoying,
[15:16] <BentFranklin> I noticed the files in /boot are not exeutable.  Is that because they are just data to grub?
[15:16] <lars_> and I dont want samba4 anyways so how do I just remove it all?
[15:17] <daftykins> lars_: apt-get remove samba4! :)
[15:17] <OerHeks> you might want to stop the samba service before removal
[15:18] <lars_> okey I guessed it was something like that but didnt want to risk anything ;)
[15:18] <pip__> daftykins: sorry - phone, where are we?
[15:18] <daftykins> scroll up and see :)
[15:18] <pip__> daftykins: yes, the path should have a folder of videos in it
[15:18] <lars_> OerHeks, i dont have any samba service running anyways, dont even remember why I got it in the first place
[15:18] <daftykins> pip__: good good, can you try the smbclient thing too?
[15:19] <pip__> yeah - but, of course, I'm not at the machine now as I got cheesed off & came to see my mum :)
[15:20] <lars_> daftykins, thanks I think that made it. I love simple solutions ;) thanks anyways
[15:20] <daftykins> np!
[15:20] <pip__> daftykins: yeah - but, of course, I'm not at the machine now as I got cheesed off & came to see my mum :)
[15:21] <pip__> daftykins: so I'm installing smbclient on the rigs I'm trying to access the folder from & I'm reverting to security = user?
[15:21] <daftykins> pip__: that's correct
[15:22] <pip__> daftykins: right, I think I can remember that :D
[15:22] <daftykins> pip__: also, you're going to want to create an smb password for your user on the system that's sharing the data
[15:22] <pip__> daftykins: that's the system that's acting as the server yes?
[15:22] <daftykins> pip__: correct
[15:23] <pip__> daftykins: okay, I think I've bookmarked an article for that one
[15:23] <daftykins> pip__: bear in mind if smbclient auto fails, try "smbclient \\IP address\sharename -u username" which should prompt for password entry
[15:23] <pip__> daftykins: ah, okay - I need to make a note of that
[15:24] <daftykins> but try the other first since you've got guest on
[15:24] <pip__> daftykins: will do
[15:25] <pip__> daftykins: at the bottom of my smb.conf should i get rid of the create mask entry?
[15:25] <pip__> daftykins: looks like a hangover from a previous edit of the file to me
[15:26] <daftykins> pip__: it should really be inside the share definition rather than on its' own
[15:26] <daftykins> or just not at all yeah
[15:26] <pip__> daftykins: yeah, I thought so....
[15:26] <daftykins> pip__: also rename the [Series] to [series] to keep it all lowercase
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: even though that is the folder name?  but that's in the path so...
[15:27] <jordan> hey i was running cyanogen mod 11 on my nexus 4 and updated it as usual and it bricked my phone ive tried n cry tool kit (wich has worked in the past ) but this time for some reason it wont work) ive tried nexus tool kit too but that wont work either the only two things on my phone are clockwork mod recovery and the bootloader someone pllease help
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: also, why does my browsable have a leading ; comment?
[15:27] <pip__> daftykins: browsable line that is
[15:28] <daftykins> pip__: i think that's commenting it out / not helping, it just means visibility on the network though really for Windows machines etc. it wouldn't hurt to delete that too
[15:28] <amigo_> boa tarde
[15:28] <pip__> daftykins: you know , I've done that a bunch of times & pops up again after restarts
[15:29] <daftykins> pip__: weird O_O
[15:29] <rony> queria uma ajuda com ubuntu 13.10
[15:29] <pip__> daftykins: dude - this whole thing has been weird from the get go
[15:29] <daftykins> pip__: are you sure you're editing and saving correctly to modify that file as root?
[15:29] <daftykins> well not as root, but just with sudo
[15:29] <daftykins> or gksudo if you're using a GUI text editor
[15:29] <pip__> daftykins: I'm sudo nanoing
[15:29] <daftykins> ok
[15:30] <pip__> daftykins: then ctrl x; yes enter
[15:30] <onizu> can i change the colour of the scrollbar but keep everything else the same in ambience theme?
[15:30] <onizu> or ambiance..
[15:30] <rony> algum brasileiro que possa me ajudar
[15:30] <DJones> !br | rony
[15:30] <pip__> daftykins: at least I've got something to work with now.  It was driving me crazy
[15:31] <onizu> !ru
[15:31] <rony> ubuntu-br
[15:31] <onizu> rony: type: /j #ubuntu-br
[15:32] <onizu> !ru | uporot
[15:34] <onizu> would it be possible to run a mac version of a program on linux rather than running its windows version using wine on linux?
[15:35] <Guest36960> hey i was running cyanogen mod 11 on my nexus 4 and updated it as usual and it bricked my phone ive tried n cry tool kit (wich has worked in the past ) but this time for some reason it wont work) ive tried nexus tool kit too but that wont work either the only two things on my phone are clockwork mod recovery and the bootloader someone pllease help
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Guest36960 this is ubuntu support. try xda-developers.com
[15:37] <daftykins> onizu: i doubt it
[15:38] <onizu> hmm
[15:38] <pip__> daftykins: thanks for your help man, I'll pop back to let you know how it goes
[15:38] <onizu> it's strange coz i would expect a mac ver to run better..
[15:38] <pip__> daftykins: when I try it
[15:39] <pip__> thanks for the help today guys, bye for now
[15:39] <daftykins> pip__: sounds good, i'll be back later too
[15:39] <pip__> daftykins: :)
[15:49] <kali_denali> hi i need a heko
[15:49] <kali_denali> *help
[15:49] <kali_denali> anyone here?
[15:50] <zykotick9> kali_denali: are you using Kali gnu/linux?
[15:50] <kali_denali> ahaha
[15:50] <kali_denali> nope
[15:50] <fangfaced1> Hi
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> kali_denali  what's the output of    /etc/issue
[15:50] <zykotick9> !ask | kali_denali
[15:50] <kali_denali> actually it's a song
[15:51] <kali_denali> elementary OS Luna \n \l
[15:51] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i guess i asked the wrong question ;)
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> kali_denali  elemntary is not supported here
[15:51] <kali_denali> i installed fluxbox but there is one problem keyboard is slipping
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> !elementary | kali_denali
[15:51] <kali_denali> dont worry i am using virtualbox
[15:51] <kali_denali> ;)
[15:52] <kali_denali> i am using ubuntu on virtualbox and that's having slipping problem
[15:52] <kali_denali> when i try to write ls
[15:52] <kali_denali> it just types lsssssssssss
[15:52] <kali_denali> i had to write very fast otherwise it 'slips'
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> !enter | kali_denali
[15:53] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: you've a broken 's' key
[15:53] <kali_denali> it's with anything i write
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: is it with every key or a set of keys in a specific area?
[15:54] <kali_denali> every key
[15:54] <kgalahassa> do somebody can guide me to language C chanel
[15:54] <ikonia> kgalahassa: it's called ##c
[15:54] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: ##c
[15:55] <kgalahassa> ok, thks
[15:55] <bobptz> guys I have ubuntu 12.04 64 bit
[15:55] <hitsujiTMO> kali_denali: does this happen in grub? or elsewhere preboot?
[15:55] <bobptz> and after this command:  sudo apt-get install libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:i386
[15:56] <bobptz> I get error:   E: Unable to locate package libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:i386
[15:56] <bobptz> why is this?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> bobbyd3: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:57] <kgalahassa> hi: for the moment nobody respond in ##c, do someone can help for: writing in C a function that permute two variables?
[15:57] <ikonia> kgalahassa: no, sorry, this chnnel is for ubuntu help - not c help
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> bobptz  that's a long package name, are you sure it's correct? find out by typing     apt-cache search keyring|less
[15:57] <bobptz> let me try
[15:57] <hitsujiTMO> kgalahassa: be patient.
[15:57] <ikonia> kgalahassa: you're not even in the ##c channel, so, you've not even asked in there
[15:58] <bobptz> MonkeyDust, I got a page of messages, what am I looking for?
[15:59] <OerHeks> bobptz, " Deleted on 2013-06-05 by Adam Conrad Failed SRU verification " >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/libp11-kit-gnome-keyring
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:59] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, that would do it
[16:00] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, the result it:  Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[16:00] <bobptz> OerHeks  what does this mean?
[16:01] <bobptz> that this library is not supposed to be in my system?
[16:01] <rustuptwist> installed on my childrens laptops ubuntu then downloaded edubuntu-desktop. How can I get the desktop to reflect the 'default' edubuntu desktop as opposed to the default Ubuntu desktop (both are 12.04.03?
[16:01] <bobptz> I read solutions in the web that I should install it
[16:01] <bobptz> it is a WINE issue I am trying to solve
[16:02] <bobptz> so guys, what do you think?
[16:03] <rustuptwist> ping
[16:04] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: its removed from 12.04 as it was causing stability issues, you'd have to be running a later release to get the lib.
[16:04] <OerHeks> multiarch issue indeed
[16:05] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, you mean later than 12.04?
[16:05] <bobptz> you mean first I need to upgrade ubuntu?
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: yes. the package appears to be available in later releases
[16:05] <bobptz> ok, got it
[16:07] <bobptz> what I was trying to solve is this error:
[16:07] <bobptz> p11-kit: couldn't load module: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:07] <bobptz> anybody can help me with this?
[16:07] <bobptz> This is when running WINE.
[16:07] <bobptz> wine 1.6.1 latest stable
[16:08] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: ppas are not supported. you need to go to the ppa maintainer for help
[16:09] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, ppas?  you mean ask WINE people?
[16:09] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: or the maintainers of the ppa that you installed that version of wine from
[16:10] <joptionpane> can someone help me please? i cannot use wireless network on 13.10...in w7 wireless works fine, but in any linux based system it doesnt
[16:10] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, I was there, no help
[16:10] <bobptz> thank you for the info
[16:10] <Ampelbein> bobptz: You can safely ignore that message.
[16:11] <bobptz> Ampelbein, well I have several messages in the terminal, while I try to install dreamveaver with WINE
[16:11] <bobptz> and the n the installer fails
[16:11] <bobptz> so I decided to address all those messages
[16:11] <rustuptwist> if I want to update the wireless drivers in a laptop is "sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-cw-3.6-precise-generic" a generic command to do that via Terminal?
[16:12] <Ampelbein> bobptz: Have you checked http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=183
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: whats the output of: uname -r
[16:12] <joptionpane> ok i'll do it just a sec
[16:13] <nightlingo_> hello!
[16:14] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  3.8.0-35-generic
[16:14] <nightlingo_> I have PC-1 connected via WiFi to the internet and I want it to share the internet to PC-2 which is connected to PC-1 via ethernet. How is this possible? Thanks
[16:14] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: so using the modules from kernel 3.6 would be a downgrade not an upgrade
[16:14] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  laptops dont want to connect to the net unless they are like sitting on the router
[16:15] <AA___> Hello everyone, i am trying to install th cherokee webserver on ubuntu 14.04. As far as i can tell, the cherokee package in is not in 14.04 yet and at the same time, the cherokee project does not seem to have a ppa for trusty tahr....Can anyone provide some help about getting the cherokee webserver for the saucy release installed on trusty tahr?
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist:  can you pastebin the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !trust | AA___
[16:15] <bobptz> Ampelbein, well, very remotly to my system
[16:15] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | sorry AA___
[16:16] <bobptz> seems like WINE is useless for serious staff
[16:16] <bobptz> do you suggest VM or dual boot?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: if you really want to run stuff properly use an VM
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: or dual boot. ... personally for a single app i'd just use a vm tho
[16:17] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, do I also have to install antivirus in the VM?
[16:17] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  the laptop in question is not connected to net right now and someone just put a plate of good looking food in front of me. Give me a bit, pls
[16:17] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: depends on the windows version. win for instance comes with AV built in
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: win 8*
[16:18] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO  I think win8 is overkill
[16:18] <bobptz> I'd go with win7
[16:18] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: can you give me the vendor id and device id for the adapter. is the info in the [XXXX:YYYY] when running lspci -nn
[16:18] <bobptz> anyway, seems I DO need antivirus or the VM will get infected
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: depends on what you do and how well you trust yourself or your network. Personally I go without it for a VM, but thats what works for me, not something i'd suggest to everyone
[16:20] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  1814:5390 This?
[16:21] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, I like to use deepfreeze or ShadowDefender to lock my windows machines.  Can I use the same in a VM?
[16:21] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: don't see why not
[16:22] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, well these utils play with master boot records etc.  They may mess things up.
[16:22] <bobptz> ...I think
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: A VM is isolated. Won't mess things up
[16:22] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, ok good to know
[16:23] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, are there amy flavors of VM or just one, where I just choose the windows version?
[16:23] <bobptz> ..many...
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> bobptz: can you rephrase the question
[16:24] <sunny_> hi all
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: i'm seeing bug reports https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1221876 seems to be issues with later kernels
[16:24] <abstract> im abstract
[16:24] <sunny_> m new to ubuntu
[16:24] <bobptz> hitsujiTMO, is there only one way to create a VM?
[16:25] <yeats> !virtualization | bobptz
[16:25] <sunny_> quit
[16:25] <yeats> bobptz: if you're running a windows guest, I would probably go with virtualbox
[16:25] <joptionpane> hey i'm back...the output for lspci -knn | grep Network -A2
[16:25] <joptionpane> is:
[16:25] <joptionpane> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
[16:25] <joptionpane> 	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8175]
[16:25] <joptionpane> 	Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
[16:25] <FloodBot1> joptionpane: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  kernel driver in use: rt2800pci
[16:26] <puca> hello. my ambition is to run initialization scripts so that tcsh starts up with some custom environment variables already initialized.
[16:27] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: the bug appears to be unresolved atm. Not seeing any suggestions for a fix.
[16:27] <puca> I want those variables to be the same in Bash. so far I have found editing bashrc does this for Bash.
[16:27] <puca> I have found no way to do the same for tcsh.
[16:27] <TheAtariNerd> I need help booting into Ubuntu.
[16:28] <puca> is there a way to make calls to tcsh inherit bash variables?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> can anyone help me with boo thing into Ubuntu on iMac?
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> TheAtariNerd  what happesn whe you try?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> *booting
[16:29] <abstract> puca, could you not create your own .tcshrc and place the info in there?
[16:29] <TheAtariNerd> it never gives me an option
[16:29] <puca> I think the problem is that my call on tcsh uses the option -ef, which means it doesn't load any startup files.
[16:30] <TheAtariNerd> I never get an OS menue
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> TheAtariNerd  what have you tried and what goes wrong... what ubuntu version etc
[16:30] <puca> abstract: yes, but as I mention above the call to tcsh doesn't load any startup files.
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[16:31] <pippero> ciao
[16:31] <joptionpane> ok
[16:31] <joptionpane> BRB
[16:31] <TheAtariNerd> Ubuntu 13.10 on External HD. I try to manually select my boot drive but it seems it never gives me the option to boot into Ubuntu
[16:34] <TheAtariNerd> need anymore info?
[16:35] <mikubuntu> is ubuntustudio based on xubuntu or ubuntu -- should i do the tweaks on this page? https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/first#TOC-Install-full-multimedia-support
[16:35] <wessel> How can I map caps as additional ctrl? I am unable to find this option in Dutch Unity Ubuntu 13
[16:35] <wessel> I am in keyboard settings "toestenbord instellingen"
[16:36] <mikubuntu> and also, lubuntu -- should i do the tweaks for ubuntu or xubuntu?
[16:36] <bobptz> yeats, seems VirtualBox is easier and better for me.  Will install win7 inside.  I am dissapointed with wine, spent 2 days with 0 results.  Thank you
[16:36] <TheAtariNerd> does anyone have experience with Ubuntu on iMacs?
[16:37] <mikubuntu> i have a pretty low mem laptop that i can't get to play a video more than about a minute 20 before it hangs up
[16:38] <wessel> #ubuntu-nl
[16:38] <lawr> Possible to change mirror halfway through downloading somethign?
[16:38] <lawr> one server is running shit slow
[16:38] <lawr> (using apt-get ofc)
[16:39] <bilegt> Do you know any way to install Kali tools on Saucy?
[16:39] <klaus_> ciao a tutti
[16:39] <TheAtariNerd> MonkeyDust Can you help?
[16:40] <puca> is there any way that I can launch tcsh using the -ef option and then  have tcsh inherit variables from the bash session I use to launch tcsh?
[16:40] <hitsujiTMO> TheAtariNerd: it could help if you say what the actual problem is
[16:41] <one> Hi peopls
[16:41] <Pcbrewer> Hi All
[16:45] <joptionpane> the output for cat /etc/issue is ubuntu 13.10 /n /l ...i`m running the live dvd
[16:46] <Antar> Hi people
[16:47] <Antar> my new (Quantal Quetzal) can't find my hp 6530b wireless driver
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: not seeing anything positive for your adapter. only thing you can try and do is install the proprietary driver from the website
[16:48] <Antar> what can i do
[16:49] <Antar> please answer me
[16:49] <Nikz> Does anybody here use TOR?
[16:49] <Nikz> I have a rather lengthy question.
[16:49] <joptionpane> i use tor
[16:49] <Nikz> Do you mind if I query you?
[16:50] <joptionpane> i`ll try to find the proprietary driver
[16:50] <Antar> my new (Quantal Quetzal) can't find my hp 6530b wireless driver ?
[16:51] <thault> is there dedicated Ubuntu Server edition channel?
[16:51] <Antar> please help
[16:52] <joptionpane> i`ll try to run the 12.10
[16:52] <joptionpane> ty
[16:52] <hitsujiTMO> thault: #ubuntu-server
[16:52] <Antar> please help
[16:52] <thault> ah, thanks hitsujiTMO
[16:53] <thault> join #ubuntu-server
[16:53] <Antar> heeeeeeeeeeeeey
[16:53] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: can you pastein the output of: lspci -knn | grep Network -A2             and: uname -r
[16:53] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: Sure
[16:55] <Antar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862408/
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | Antar
[16:57] <Psyko000> Can anyone give me a hand? I've been looking for an audio player similar to foobar2000, but I can't find anything that offers the same or similar file operations.
[16:57] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: bash: !bcm: event not found
[16:58] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer what do you think ?
[16:58] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: no. !bcm is a trigger for the bot. read the link. I'd try the b43
[16:59] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: hh sorry i thought it a command
[16:59] <Antar> hitsujiTMO: so LPPHY
[17:00] <belgianguy> the new propietary AMD driver is available, works well with 3.13
[17:00] <Antar> hitsujiTMO:
[17:01] <belgianguy> and while it's called 14.1 beta, it works with 13.10
[17:01] <hitsujiTMO> Antar: with the bcm its a case of try until you find one that works, so maybe start with that package alright
[17:02] <Antar> ok
[17:07] <jgcampbell300> I have a question about ubuntu and wine ... If i run a online game to desktop 1 then start another instance on desktop 2 is there a way to get the second desktop to use less video memory ... or none ?
[17:08] <mariuszdo> greetings everyone ... i'm now using the computer i mentioned before ...
[17:08] <mariuszdo> live-cd took a while to load but i can use internet as you can see ... i cannot access this notebook's internal hdd though ... any ideas?
[17:09] <puca> does gnome-terminal run .baschrc?
[17:09] <hitsujiTMO> puca: no. but .bashrc does get run tho
[17:09] <mariuszdo> ikonia: are you still here?
[17:09] <puca> hitsujiTMO: when?
[17:10] <mariuszdo> or you bekks ?
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> puca: when you open the terminal. it's sourced by ~/.profile
[17:10] <puca> ok, so every time I open a terminal.
[17:11] <hitsujiTMO> puca: yes
[17:11] <puca> good. thanks!
[17:17] <mariuszdo> you see ... when i tried to boot windows normally i got an error message saying "boot device not found" ...
[17:18] <mariuszdo> when i try to install ubuntu the check tells me that there's enough space left but still ... i can't find the hdd ... i don't think it's mounted, etc
[17:20] <HALanon9000> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 and unity seems to have broke after restart. i haven't installed any updates that needed a restart, and haven't turned my laptop off since updating. i typed "unity" in terminal and it said it wasnt installed. so i installed it, than started it, and still no desktop
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> !trusty | HALanon9000
[17:21] <ktace> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.    He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[17:21] <FloodBot1> ktace: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:21] <Shura> Hi, since last updates, my NFS shares are not auto mounted at boot. I have to "sudo mount -a" every time.
[17:21] <Shura> Is there a way to fix nfs mount or launch "sudo mount -a" after the boot (without entering the password) ?
[17:21] <cnz> how do I check to see what displays my monitors are on
[17:25] <hitsujiTMO> Shura: mounting happens before the network is up. you should have mount -a called after the network comes up
[17:26] <at_> i can't take nick at
[17:26] <at_> why?
[17:27] <Shura> I guess, yes, but it used to work fine. Now it didn't. I don't know what has changed
[17:27] <Shura> doesn't$
[17:30] <cnz> anyone here that can give me some help with loading x
[17:30] <hitsujiTMO> !details | cnz
[17:33] <SNakamoto> Anyone know if php5.5 isnt supported for ubuntu 10.10? Or if it is where can I get it?
[17:33] <hitsujiTMO> 10.10 isn't even supported
[17:34] <SNakamoto> I know :( But thats what my host installed on my VPS
[17:34] <SNakamoto> And rather then starting over now that I've got everything setup
[17:35] <SNakamoto> I would rather just get php5.5 so I have the password hashing class
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: change host. because you can't get ANY software for it. You have no repos, and there are no PPAs
[17:35] <SNakamoto> But I already got everything I need but php5.5, Theres no way?
[17:35] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: do they not have a supported version of ubuntu?
[17:36] <joptionpane> the wireless is not working in any gnu/linux based system...but works fine in w7 and w8..is the hardware the problem?
[17:36] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: 10.10 is 2 years out of support so noone is maintaining PPAs for it
[17:36] <SNakamoto> I would assume if they did they would have installed it lol, I was given a few options and I said ubuntu and they gave me a VPS with 10.10 >.>
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> joptionpane: its software issue not hardware
[17:37] <joptionpane> it was working some time ago
[17:37] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: if thats what they gave you then i'd run from them as quickly as possilbe
[17:38] <ubululu> hello, i'm on a livecd ubuntu 13.10 that i booted from grub. works great, but i was reading that you can give it persistence. can only find guides on how to do that with a usb drive, so i'm looking for info to do it with this iso from grub. is this at all possible?
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> !persistence | ubululu
[17:38] <SNakamoto> Would it be possible to compile it myself
[17:38] <SNakamoto> ?
[17:39] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, yes thank you. that is the page i read earlier, i made a casper-rw but don't know what to do with when i start ubuntu
[17:39] <Guest550> anyknow know where i can install the jsk for netbeans
[17:39] <Guest550> jdk
[17:39] <Guest550> *
[17:40] <bekks> !java | Guest550
[17:40] <hitsujiTMO> SNakamoto: possibly, possibly not. It may rely on dependencies that don't exist in 10.10 and its not a trivial thing to compile. Honestly tho, running 10.10 puts your server at severe risk as its been 2 years since the last recieved any security updates and doesn't even have a repo any more
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest550: webupd8 has a java ppa
[17:41] <rollitup> hey guys I have a strange issue, I am unable to access these two particular sites from this machine that has Ubuntu 12.04 , the sites are github.com and al-jazeera
[17:41] <hitsujiTMO> ubululu: are you using it with a usb?
[17:41] <rollitup> i tried accessing them through both firefox and chrome
[17:42] <rollitup> one thing to note is that I am able to access these sites on my notebook which has Manjaro
[17:42] <ubululu> no, from a hdd, i've added it to the root dir and used the --persistent flag in grub
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: can you ping the name ok?
[17:42] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, sorry forgot to tag ^
[17:43] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: no when i ping it gives me desitnation host unreachable
[17:43] <rollitup> its not that i have the ubuntu firewall
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: try changing your DNS server.
[17:43] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, do you know if that is possible to use persistence with a iso file you boot from grub? or a good guide would be welcome, google gives a load of hits but i don't quite get all that
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: then try again. Or does the name get resolved to an IP and it's the actual ping failing?
[17:45] <rollitup> i am trying
[17:46] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: it does not work in firefox i get "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at github.com." and ping it says destination host not reachable
[17:46] <hitsujiTMO> ubululu: any persistence would be written to the hdd and would have some restrictions on how it works. Its far easier to use persistence with a usb tho
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Rollitup: what IP do you get with: nslookup github.com
[17:47] <ubululu> hitsujiTMO, i thought so, thanks .. just a crazy idea
[17:47] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:48] <cnz> anyone know how to use pastebinit?
[17:49] <HALanon9000> hey guys, no ones helping me on ubuntu+1. could i get some help here with 14.04? theres not a lot different from 13.10, in fact it says that it is 13.10
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Rollithub: <IP_ADDRESS> here. Does that IP reply for you?
[17:49] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: pastebinit /path/to/file          or           command | pastebinit
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: it accepts text streams and file names
[17:50] <BentFranklin> A partition was throwing disk full at only 84% (out of 5 GB).  Shouldn;t that be 95%?  How to you access/set that parameter?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> HALanon9000: Trusty is offtopic here
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> HALanon9000: 14.04 issues are strictly covered in #ubuntu+1
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: if you run: df -i ,do you see any at 100% use there?
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> BentFranklin: whats the output of: df -i
[17:50] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I also checked the hosts file to see if these two sites are blocked
[17:50] <HALanon9000> ubuntu+1 has over 100 people but none are active. i guess i'll have to wait a while.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: does the IP i gave ping
[17:51] <cnz> got it guys thanks
[17:51] <cnz> 'http://paste.debian.net/79801/
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> HALanon9000: yes. I suggest you report a bug for your issue.
[17:51] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[17:51] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: no it says destination host unreachable
[17:52] <BentFranklin> I already repartitioned.  But / (including /boot) was 84% and refusing to upgrade linux image.  I fixed allt hat, just curious why it failed at 84%.
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: have you tried setting a manual route?
[17:52] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I use Bleachbit regularly , I am not aware on how to set a manual route
[17:52] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: huh?
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: if you run: df -i | grep 100 ,do you see any output?
[17:53] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: can you tell me the output of the command: cat /etc/issue
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: its a terminal command, run it and paste the output here
[17:53] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip:  No, because I repartitioned already.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: try: sudo apt-get clean
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: tried a reboot, you may have removed something using bleachbit.
[17:54] <cnz> Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l
[17:54] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip: So, I need to have enough bytes AND enough inodes!
[17:54] <cnz> oh I thought /etc/issue was an example m y bad
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> BentFranklin: yes
[17:55] <hitsujiTMO> cnz: this is ubuntu support, for debian support go to #debian
[17:55] <BentFranklin> Action Parsnip: hitsuji:  Thanks
[17:55] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: I know i posted link in wrong channel
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> Cnz: the command is "cat /etc/issue" without the quotes
[17:55] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: this has been happening since past 2-3 months, i use bleachbit after each session before shutting down the computer
[17:56] <cnz> hitsujiTMO: it's also almost impossible to find support anywhere these days
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: thats quite excessive
[17:56] <worc> do the ubuntuforums really not accept mailinator accounts? i dont need any more GD spam...
[17:57] <hitsujiTMO> worc: ubuntuforums dont spam
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> Word:  id ask in #ubuntuforums
[17:57] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I do it for the sake of privacy
[17:57] <rollitup> ;P
[17:57] <jhutchins> worc: If you manage your mailserver correctly you don't need to worry about spam.
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: if you put your browser cache in tempfs it will clear at reboot
[17:57] <rollitup> but yeah only clean browser related stuff
[17:57] <worc> alright alright. mostly i just wanted to see a thread that was linked in a troubleshooting post
[17:57] <rollitup> not the system
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: web browsers can clean their own cachw, you dont need bleachbot
[17:58] <ubululu> mainly wanted to test a grub iso to see if my nvidia would work for 13.10 .. i thought i could install the drivers but i need persistence to be able to reboot and test the card. the grub entree: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862696/ and i have casper-rw. if anyone knows a guide on how to proceed, would be awesome, thank you
[17:58] <worc> i suspect there's a typo or something i'm missing reading the quote that would get cleared up if i could see the original post
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: ctrl+shift+del and clear the cache.....why are you using bleachbit?
[17:58] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: but what about the tracking and surveillance stuff that gets planted on our pc
[17:59] <hitsujiTMO> rollitup: use incognito sessions/privacy sessions
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: what surveillance stuff?
[17:59] <rollitup> the NSA spying
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: there isnt any in Ubuntu
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: you need to chillout dude.
[18:01] <rollitup> ok ActionParsnip
[18:01] <milamber> ubululu: you can do a full install to usb
[18:01] <rollitup> ok again I use bleachbit even on Manjaro and the sites work there
[18:01] <rollitup> strange isn't that
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: manjaro is completely different to ubuntu, so no not very strange
[18:02] <ubululu> milamber, yes i know, done it a few times but i keep loosing those things. thx tho for replying
[18:02] <Mongo44> Can I run Netflix with 12.04?
[18:02] <rollitup> how can we narrow down the cause of this issue ?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: there isba hacky PPA. Its far from perfect but may work
[18:03] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: pipelight seems to get the most positive results
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: reboot and try the sites. If it works then whatever nonesense you are doing in bleachbit is probably causing the issue
[18:03] <Mongo44> Ok, I would like that repository and the one for ClamAV.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: what does clamav have to do with netflix?
[18:04] <rollitup> ok i'll reboot the machine now
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable
[18:04] <milamber> ubululu: it is something different than persistence, i have also done it and it keeps all changes
[18:04] <Mongo44> ActionParsnip, Can you pastebinit so I can VI it?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: again, what does clamav have to do with netflix?
[18:06] <ubululu> milamber, well that explains why googling doesn't seem to get me further than creating the casper-rw and adding the --persistent flag, the iso boot fine, using it now. in what way is it different?
[18:06] <Mongo44> I don't want to send a windows virus in an email.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Oh i see
[18:07] <Mongo44> I know with my Debian VM I had to edit the sources list. I don't have to use VI here?
[18:08] <milamber> ubululu: you basically need 2 thumb drives, or a live cd and a thumb drive. run one and choose the other as the installation destination
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: are you wanting netflix in debian?
[18:09] <milamber> ubululu: the only tricky part is making sure the right media is selected when installing the boot sector
[18:09] <milamber> ubululu: if that goes wrong you have problems
[18:09] <Mongo44> I guess I can add it to my host OS first.
[18:09] <ubululu> milamber, so i can't use the iso i booted from grub?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: younarent making any sense
[18:10] <milamber> ubululu: what do you mean "booted from grub"?
[18:10] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: I rebooted, tried accessing again but still the same problem
[18:10] <Mongo44> Of course I am my main OS is 12.04 LTS.
[18:11] <milamber> ubululu: when you load an instance of ubuntu from a thumb drive, you have the option of installing. you need to have a blank thumb drive available to install to
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: so what does this have to do with a debian vm?
[18:11] <ubululu> milamber, i have 2 partitions for ubuntu OS, one is running the now deceased 13.04 and i added a grub entree to boot the 13.10 iso from that
[18:12] <tdm4> anyone know why python-software-properties no longer provides 'add-apt-repository' in saucy? (amd64)
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: why mention it earlier? It makes no sense. Doesn't it?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> !find add-apt-repository saucy
[18:12] <ubululu> milamber, this is the grub entree for it, that works like a charm, i like it better than thumbdrives (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862696/)
[18:12] <tdm4> gah.. it changed
[18:12] <tdm4> thanks
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Tdm4 yes. Youbcan find that stuf out on packages.ubuntu.com too....
[18:13] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: do you think it would be a good idea to boot into ubuntu using a live usb stick and check if i am able to access the site ?
[18:13] <Mongo44> I was just remembering what I had to do to add the repositories needed to run video content with Iceweasel.
[18:13] <tdm4> apt-cache search didn't show anything and I couldn't find it on packages.ubuntu.com for some reason
[18:13] <bird_> hello?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: yes as it will not be affected by your activiries
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Hi bird_
[18:13] <milamber> ubululu: that should work
[18:14] <bird_> Im new to ubuntu and linux and having trouble adding new users
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: but its for a different distribution and isnt of any value to your issue
[18:14] <ubululu> milamber, indeed, i am on the booted iso right now
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | bird_ this is a good primer for the gui
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: are you adding at cli or gui?
[18:14] <milamber> ubululu: ok, on the desktop of the booted iso there should be an icon for installing ubuntu
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Bird_: sudo adduser -c "full name" username; sudo passwd username
[18:15] <ubululu> milamber, i appreciate your help :) bit of a crazy plan i realise that
[18:15] <ubululu> milamber, yes i have that
[18:15] <jrib> ActionParsnip: adduser should prompt for password, right/
[18:15] <Mongo44> What is the difference between the aptitude and apt-get commands?
[18:15] <milamber> ubululu: installing the full os on a thumb drive isn't that crazy, just not many people do it (for several valid reasons)
[18:15] <jrib> Mongo44: they are different programs, apt-get is the standard one to use, use that
[18:15] <bird_> yes jrib
[18:15] <ffff> does anybody here have any experience deploying nodejs apps?
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Jrib: cant remember so covered the base :-)
[18:15] <milamber> ubululu: then you can use the install wizard to do a full install to a thumb drive
[18:16] <Guest13802> how do i get kernel number of a program from terminal?
[18:16] <bird_> but when i type the newusers name it returns my name for some reason and says user already exist
[18:16] <jrib> Guest13802: what do you mean?  You mean the PID?
[18:16] <daftykins> Guest13802: your kernel *version* ?
[18:16] <Guest13802> yes
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> jrib: yes it does unless you use --disabled-password
[18:16] <Grizzlee> hi, is there a program tv widget for lubuntu?
[18:17] <Guest13802> lsb something...
[18:17] <milamber> Grizzlee: what do you mean a tv widget?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: kernel version, or version of an application? Applications don't have 'kernel versions'
[18:17] <ubululu> milamber, that's the thing, i want to just check out a few things like video card mainly, i had trouble with it in raring .. so i thought i coud install the drivers to see if it is better with 13.10 from the iso before i commit to hdd
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: whats the exact command you are using?
[18:17] <Grizzlee> program tv widget
[18:17] <Mongo44> Aptitude update is easier than sudo apt-get update, though.
[18:17] <daftykins> Guest13802: lsb-release are you thinking of? or uname -r
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release -a ,shows the ubuntu release and nothing about the kernel version nor anythong about any application
[18:18] <bird_> sudo adduser teri
[18:18] <bekks> Mongo44: aptitude has known issues on multilib system.
[18:18] <Guest13802> sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: how is it easier?
[18:18] <Guest13802> for that command
[18:18] <milamber> ubululu: right, but if you want to be able to enable the drivers and restart while in a completely test environment, a full install to usb is (in my opinion) the easiest way. just running the livecd/iso will not allow you to do that
[18:18] <Mongo44> Oh it just feels easier.
[18:18] <Guest13802> how do I get the kernel version number from the terminal?
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: cat /etc/passwd | grep teri
[18:19] <jrib> Guest13802: uname -a
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: how? You run the command and type ypur password for both then sit and watch. How is one easier in any way at all?
[18:19] <ubululu> milamber, i guess i'll go for that, thank you
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: both involve the exact same input and you sit and watch the packages update
[18:19] <bird_> that didnt do anything
[18:20] <milamber> Grizzlee: when asked to explain something, repeating is not the recommended answer. what do you mean a program tv widget? something to watch tv on your computer? to stream media? to program tvs? what do you mean?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: so exactly how is one easier than the other?
[18:20] <Mongo44> I guess you stumped me.
[18:20] <Guest13802> hello? does anyone know how to get the kernel version number? lsb something???
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: yes because I know what I'm talking about
[18:20] <Guest13802> uname -a is for the whole computer I want it for a driver
[18:20] <bekks> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:21] <bekks> Guest13802: Same as yesterday.
[18:21] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: can you pastebin the full output of: sudo adduser teri
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release -a ,shows the ubuntu version. uname -a will show the full kernel details.
[18:21] <bird_> sure
[18:21] <milamber> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Guest13802: lsb_release will never show kernel versions
[18:21] <Grizzlee> yes to show tv programm quickly on my computer^
[18:21] <Guest13802> k thanks
[18:22] <Grizzlee> ^^
[18:22] <Grizzlee> do u now it?
[18:22] <milamber> Grizzlee: myth?
[18:22] <milamber> !mythbuntu | Grizzlee
[18:22] <Mongo44> I still want ClamAV but I have to wait for netflix-destop to finish installing.
[18:23] <Grizzlee> ok thx i see that
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue ,please
[18:23] <KoreanZombie> Hey all, I've been trying to install different versions of Ubuntu/XUbuntu from a USB to another USB for 3 days now and I keep failing, I've tried google a lot and it has helped in most cases but I'm now kinda stuck without being able to find help. Can any of you guys help me out?
[18:23] <ikonia> netflix on ubuntu.....
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> KoreanZombie  what goes wrong
[18:24] <Mongo44> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: yeah PPA with a hacked Wine. Far from perfect
[18:25] <bird_> http://pastebin.com/6QJ6DqKh
[18:25] <ikonia> what a total waste of time
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: yeah. People seem to like installing it.
[18:26] <ikonia> if you're paying for a service running a shoddy work around seems stupid
[18:26] <ikonia> rather than using the supported options
[18:26] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust alright, so I create an installation USB (with ISO file and that stuff via pendrive software) install it as normal, choose "Something else" and creates a ETX4 (or whatever it's called) for the 14GB of the other flash drive mounted to "/" and a swap of 1GB swap - I install it all and it completes.
[18:26] <milamber> KoreanZombie: what is the issue?
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: you must put in the password for your (jared) account, not the new account
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Bird_: type your user pasword. You will not get any feedback
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> bird_: the sudo command allows you to gain super user priviledges, but it must confirm first that you are indeed you. this is whats asking for the password
[18:27] <mezo_> If I burn ISO to CD, with Brasero disc burner, will it be bootable? There is no option to check anything
[18:27] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust now when I reboot, if I don't change BIOS it obviously boots to the ISO usb and wants to install again, so I change in BIOS to the 16GB USB with the OS on it but its just stuck on a black screen with a "_" blinking, I've googled it and people say I should hit shift and get into grub
[18:27] <daftykins> KoreanZombie: are you sure you don't want to just create a persistent live USB instead of install manually to it? you really don't want a swap partition on a flash drive either
[18:27] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust but Grub does not appear, only when I boot on the ISO file usb
[18:27] <dominiquenf> hello
[18:28] <bird_> doh i feel dumb sorry
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> mezo_: if its a bootable iso then yes
[18:28] <ImBob> i just installed 12.04 and it will not give me graphics when i use live cd i do a nomodset and it works how do i do a nomodset for a full install?
[18:28] <KoreanZombie> hmm, not sure what that means exactly, I'm setting up a "headless" scrypt mining PC (if u know what that is)
[18:29] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | imbob
[18:29] <KoreanZombie> monkeydust I honestly don't care how it's installed as long as it works and I can update drivers and get the programs necesarruy
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Imbob: hold shift at boot
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> !nomodeset | KoreanZombie try this
[18:30] <KoreanZombie> yea I saw that on google, but I can't acces the grub thing when booting to the USB with the OS on it
[18:30] <ImBob> ok thanks let me go look :)
[18:30] <KoreanZombie> only when booting the installation USB
[18:30] <manishjain> hello, I am getting a problem when i am trying to update the packages. I am giving the error message in the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6862893/ . please help.
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: use either left shift or esc to get up grub just after selecting the device to boot
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: disable the CD as a package source in /etc/apt/sources.list or Software Centre
[18:32] <Mongo44> Yeah netflix-desktop ain't working.
[18:32] <Guest13802> How do I get the kernel number for this? sudo cp ./<kernel version>/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:32] <KoreanZombie> nothing happens hitsuji, I can try again but I've tried so many times - I should just reboot to the USB with the OS installed and spam ESC/left shift from it starts?
[18:32] <bekks> Guest13802: uname -r
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: thats the only solution for netflix in Linux
[18:32] <bekks> Guest13802: Same as yesterday.
[18:32] <Mongo44> I don't even know the path to netflix-desktop.
[18:33] <bekks> Guest13802: If you want to know whats the name of "<kernel version>", then run: "ls -lha ."
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: you dont need to. If you log off then you can log in to the netflix desktop
[18:33] <bekks> Guest13802: "<kernel version>" refers to a directory in your current directory.
[18:33] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO I should just boot to the USB I installed it on and spam left shift or ESC, right?
[18:33] <Mongo44> Log off?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: just like you don't know where ubuntu-desktop.desktop is, yet you use it
[18:34] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: you have about 1 second after the bios/uefi finishes to get into grub. so spam from then
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: if you read above when I typed it first. Yes, log off
[18:34] <KoreanZombie> kk, will try again
[18:34] <Mongo44> I just rebooted. I want to find the location in My folder.
[18:34] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO nope, goes instantly to the black screen with the blinking "_"
[18:34] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: Thanks. Then i can still able to download the updates from ubuntu main server , right ?
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: log in to the netflix session and not the one you usually log into
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: that sounds like grub isn't installed then
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: yes, you kust removed the CD wjich you dont need as you have the web
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: did you install netflix in the VM?
[18:35] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: try running boot-repair from the live cd
[18:36] <Mongo44> No this is all about 12.04 LTS not Wheezy.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: cool, just checking.
[18:36] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO I don't have a live cd, I have a USB with the ISO file/image made with pendrivelinux
[18:36] <Guest13802> does this look right?     sudo cp ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/input/tablet
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44 try this instead: https://launchpad.net/~pipelight/+archive/stable
[18:36] <bekks> Guest13802: If the file ./3.11.0-15-generic/wacom.ko exists, yes.
[18:37] <Guest13802> k thanks bekks
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: thats the livecd. is that whats not booting?
[18:37] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO when I boot to that I can only choose "try ubuntu" "install" or "check for errors" (not exactly the way it reads, but pretty much)
[18:37] <manishjain> ActionParsnip : ok. One thing more. If i want to install ubuntu along with windows then what to do ? As i have all the physical/logical partitions in my Harddisk. No Primary partition. ?
[18:37] <milamber> KoreanZombie: http://fernhilllinuxproject.com/guidesandhowtos/installubuntutousbdrive.html
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: you can have all logical partitions if you want
[18:37] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: boot that and use try ubuntu. install boot-repair and use that to repair the broken grub installtion
[18:38] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO no that boots fine, and I've done the entire installation, it's just after installing and rebooting to the USB drive with the newly installed OS I can't get anywhere (including to GRUB)
[18:38] <manishjain> ActionParnship :How ?
[18:38] <milamber> KoreanZombie: i have successfully used that tutorial dozens of times
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: ubuntu will need 2 partitions
[18:38] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I've followed that guide, it still happens
[18:38] <manishjain> I dont want to format my harddisk.
[18:38] <PatBateman> hi,
[18:38] <ffff> so do i need upstart to use monit? or are they meant to be used mutually exclusive?
[18:38] <PatBateman> is Gnom3 faster than Unity?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: install windows to a portion of the space then install ubuntu to the free space
[18:38] <jhutchins> manishjain: You don't have to format the whole disk, just make room for Linux and format that space.
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity runs ontop of gnome3
[18:39] <KoreanZombie> milamber: everything is fine for that entire guide, it's only AFTER doing it all and rebooting that I can't get anywhere
[18:39] <PatBateman> ah
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity doesnt replace gnome. Unity isnt a DE.
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yes, boot that and use try ubuntu. install boot-repair and use that to repair the broken grub installation. It will repair the install of the  newly installed OS
[18:39] <KoreanZombie> hitsujimoTMO: alrighty, thanks a lot for helping will do it right now
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> !boot-repair | KoreanZombie
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: unity is nothing more than a plugin for compiz, like wobbly windows
[18:39] <joptionpane> it shows the networks and connects to my AP but doesn't open anything...the "nm-tool" command shows "Connected" in the wlan0...the adapter is rtl8188ce but the module/driver loaded is rtl8192ce...should i try to load a different one?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> !bootrepair | KoreanZombie
[18:39] <PatBateman> ActionParsnip: any advice to speed up gui ?
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: are you sure you are changing where the bootloader is being installed?
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: info on boot repair here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> PatBateman: install gnome-shell and ditch compiz. Or install a lighter DE like LXDE or XFCE
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: the default is not correct
[18:40] <ezrhino> o. Ubuntu still checks for updtes when i boot, even though i disabled from startup. How can i fix?
[18:40] <PatBateman> nice, thanks
[18:40] <milamber> KoreanZombie: which may be why you are having trouble with boot loaders
[18:41] <KoreanZombie> milamber: no because it was already set on the USB where the OS needed to be
[18:41] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: I have done that. but when i need to select the partition where i have to install the ubuntu then only the windows partition i am able to see. Not for the space that i have allocated for the linux. It comines with windows partion.
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> milamber: from what he described he indeed installed it to the wrong location
[18:41] <KoreanZombie> milamber are u sure it's always like that?
[18:41] <manishjain> and give me only two ntfs partition.
[18:41] <milamber> KoreanZombie: yes, the default isn't correct
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> manishjain: resize your NTFS in Windows to make free space
[18:42] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I see, the default was set to the overall name of the USB drive I was installing to while the other option was the m"main partition"
[18:42] <milamber> KoreanZombie: if you are using 2 usb drives make sure the correct one is selected
[18:42] <KoreanZombie> I will reinstall it and try with the second option, man I'm hoping this is the reason!
[18:43] <KoreanZombie> I am installing from one to another, the one I was installing from was not even listed tho
[18:43] <PatBateman> can I choose xfce on install, or I have to install later and uninstall unity?
[18:43] <PatBateman> dont remember
[18:43] <milamber> KoreanZombie: okay, also from the terminal you can use the command df   to see what is mounted where
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> !xubuntu | PatBateman
[18:44] <manishjain> ActionParsnio: Actually I have gave some free space for linux. but i am not able to see that space at the time of installation . What to do ?
[18:44] <milamber> PatBateman: if you xfce as the default, download xubuntu
[18:44] <KoreanZombie> milamber: alright so I don't have to take out the drive I'm installing on and format it on my second PC, it will overwrite it right?
[18:44] <PatBateman> thanks
[18:45] <milamber> KoreanZombie: through the installation wizard you should be able to do that, yes
[18:45] <KoreanZombie> milamber ok thanks a lot, I'm starting as we speak
[18:46] <Mongo44> hitsujiTMO, I tried that still no dice.
[18:46] <PatBateman> milamber: and I can set up my lamp dev environment to the same as orig. ubuntu?
[18:46] <KoreanZombie> and I shouldn't create a swap when installing to a 16GB USB? just one "ext4" partition mounted to "/" ?
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: if neither work then you're out of look, unless you want to run it in VM
[18:46] <alazyworkaholic> Can a user of a local machine take control of a remote terminal session started through ssh?
[18:46] <manishjain> ActionParsnip: Actually I have gave some free space for linux. but i am not able to see that space at the time of installation . What to do ?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: a windows vm that is
[18:47] <KoreanZombie> milamber do u know that?
[18:47] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: can you boot the live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[18:47] <TJ-> manishjain: Is that because the disk already has *four* primary partitions? I've seen this with Windows OEM pre-installs alot recently
[18:47] <milamber> KoreanZombie: swap is optional
[18:48] <milamber> KoreanZombie: you can take it or leave it, it is just important that you use an ext3/4 file system
[18:48] <KoreanZombie> it recommends it when trying to go forward but a guy just said in chat that I shouldnt have it when installing on a USB
[18:49] <manishjain> TJ- No. Only Three partiton. one for windows os, one for linux and other for documents.
[18:49] <KoreanZombie> milamber: alright, so ONE "ext4" partition mounted to "/" should be enough?
[18:49] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: can you boot the ubuntu live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[18:49] <milamber> KoreanZombie: yes
[18:50] <PatBateman> which one DE is the most mature and suggested to use?
[18:50] <KoreanZombie> milamber awesome, I formatted it and made it just one, chose the other option for boot loader and I'm installing now!
[18:50] <Mongo44> I wish I had asked you all before getting a Netflix free trial.
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> PatBateman: whichever suits your workflow the best
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> KoreanZombie  separate /home is easier to upgrade or reinstall ubuntu
[18:51] <Ozera> Can anyone tell me how to add a private key in ubuntu 12.04?
[18:51] <manishjain> hitsujiTMO : Listen. I am not able to select the partition where i have to install linux although i have allocated the space. This is my problem.
[18:51] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I just have one for now, but all I care about is getting up and running with new drivers and such..
[18:52] <TJ-> manishjain: So, provide the results of the command that hitsujiTMO gave you, so we can figure it out
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: don't allocate the space. leave the installer do that
[18:52] <KoreanZombie> milamber: now when the installation is done and I hit reboot, should I then go into BIOS immidiately and change it to boot to the new USB I installed OS on or should it do this automaticly?
[18:52] <zykotick9> TJ-: i'd guess your 4 primary is correct ;)
[18:52] <bekks> !info alsa-base > bekks
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:54] <manishjain> hitsujitTMO : the installer does not recongnise it . It gives two option 1. for remove the Windows and install the linux 2. others
[18:54] <manishjain> i chose others.
[18:54] <manishjain> then i was stuck ,
[18:54] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I know it probably does not matter, I just wanna make sure the installation completes 100%, so I guess I can't go wrong by just letting it boot to whatever it wants (?)
[18:55] <TJ-> zykotick9: Unless a partition has been 'allocated' for Linux, taking up the 'free' space, in which case the user would need to choose the "Something Else" partitioning option and manually assign that partition to "/"
[18:55] <crahan_> #ljfsljfdsljflskdf
[18:55] <hitsujiTMO> manishjain: boot to the live cd and pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l                   so we can see whats going on
[18:55] <manishjain> Ok. hitsujiTMO, TJ-
[18:57] <milamber> KoreanZombie: what do you mean? to whatever it wants?
[18:57] <milamber> KoreanZombie: if the install completes, remove the installation usb and boot to the full install usb
[18:58] <KoreanZombie> milamber: so just remove it when I see it's done, then press reboot and pull it out fast so it can't boot back to it? (technically BIOS is set to boot to the installation USB and not the one I'm installing on)
[18:59] <Mongo44> Anyone subscribed to the Blaze TV and watch on the computer?
[18:59] <rooisto47> Hello everyone, I installed SCIM to type in "pinyin" with my keyboard following this tutorial http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=739868 but I don't get "zh-pinyin" All I can see is "English/keyboard" "Other - RAW CODE" "Other - English/European"
[19:03] <milamber> KoreanZombie: shut down, remove install usb, turn computing machine back on, go into bios, select permanent install usb
[19:04] <KoreanZombie> milamber, alright thanks!
[19:10] <iam> I recently installed Xubuntu 13.10 on my netbook, but my internet isn't working on it.
[19:10] <iam> Does anyone know what the problem is?
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> iam: wireless or wired?
[19:11] <iam> hitsujiTMO, wireless
[19:11] <ianorlin> iam what kind of wirless card if is built in try lspci to find out or lsusb if it is a usb card
[19:12] <Ozera> Does anyone know how to add a x.509 cert in ubuntu?
[19:12] <iam> ianorlin, i just got a bunch of text back from those commands, what exactly am i looking for?
[19:12] <hitsujiTMO> iam and is the wireless working or just not the internet?
[19:13] <iam> hitsujiTMO, i'm pretty sure it's just the wireless, although i haven't tried wired connection yet
[19:13] <RedHawk> iam: Try the wired, make sure its not a problem with the connection to your ISP.
[19:14] <Guest95548> ciao
[19:14] <iam> RedHawk, i don't really know how to do wired though...
[19:14] <iam> :S
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> Iam: sudo lshw -C network ,will tell you the wireless chip
[19:14] <ianorlin> iam it could be like 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[19:14] <RedHawk> iam: plug it in...it will be automatic
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: to 'do wired' connect an Ethernet cable between your system and your router and reboot. Done
[19:15] <iam> ActionParsnip, i got PCI (sysfs)
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: same as in windows....
[19:15] <iam> i know, i but i don't have a cable
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: your PCI bus is slow, give it a while
[19:15] <iam> actually i do have a cable
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> iam: lspci -nn | grep Network | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[19:15]  * iam goes looking
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Iam: then why say you didnt know, now you say you do....
[19:15] <iam> ActionParsnip, ok. it's done, what do i look for
[19:16] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: if you reboot for a networking issue....we need to have a talk! :D
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Iam: the product line for the wireless
[19:16] <aleo> Hi, I have a question. when I used wget -r http://example.com/some/foo then it downloads all the files starting from dir some. But I only want files in foo dir. what should I use?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Redhawk: the user is clearly new. It makes life easier
[19:16] <iam> ActionParsnip, i didn't know where to connect it to
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Iam: the hole it connects to. It will only fit in one
[19:17] <iam> ActionParsnip, :P, there are to production lines
[19:17] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  i had to go out and talk to a parent of one of my students. If I recall you were saying the Wifi issues in <IP_ADDRESS> are not resolved or not resolved easily
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: what is the product line of the wireless?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: then either
[19:17] <iam> ActionParsnip, they both say network
[19:17] <RedHawk> Seriously LMAO
[19:17] <homedefense> is there anyone available ot private message me and give me some advice on installing packages with unresolved dependancies under the ubuntu software center.  besides independantly searching out each indevidual one
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Iam: ok what are the product lines for both?
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: the bug appears to be unresolved atm. Not seeing any suggestions for a fix.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Redhawk: remeber the target audience of Ubuntu....
[19:18] <iam> ActionParsnip, RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller | is the first one
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: what is the output of: sudo apt-get -f install; lsb_release -a
[19:18] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: I know.....I just cant help it.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Iam: see how that says "Ethernet" guess what connector that is?
[19:19] <iam> ActionParsnip, BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY is the second
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: use http://pastie.org or similar to host
[19:19] <RedHawk> oooo, Broadcom.
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | iam
[19:19] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  and the bug is what exactly?with certain wifi hardware or just wifi as a whole? just curious cause it connects but like i said you basically need to be sitting on the router to do so
[19:20] <iam> c:
[19:20] <adalberto> hi
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: they are the cheapest and easiest to setup (short of working out of the box)
[19:21] <adalberto> I have a problem
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: with the driver for your wifi chipset. It appears to have show stopping issues post kernel 3.5 (and maybe earlier) that are not fixed
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: did you not know that wired connections use an Ethernet cable?
[19:21] <homedefense> actionparsnip http://pastie.org/8692050
[19:21] <iam> ActionParsnip, not really...
[19:21] <iam> i mostly use wireless, and my dad sets it u
[19:21] <iam> p
[19:21] <iam> so i am very new to this
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: at least i couldn't find any fixes in the bug reports and all bug reports are still unresolved
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Iam: well, you learned something new today :-)
[19:22] <iam> :D
[19:22]  * iam goes to look for cable
[19:22] <RedHawk> iam: ActionParsnip And I think I know the issue...
[19:22] <iam> RedHawk, what's the issue
[19:22] <adalberto> I want to share folders between windows xp and ubuntu 13.10 using my hostname whith samba, but when I try to do it it ask me for a password that I don't know, when I do it using my ip address it works excellent...
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: ok, run: sudo apt-get upgrade ,what is the output please?
[19:22] <RedHawk> ActionParsnip: you porbably just need to walk him through a wireless connection setup and have him enter the password for the router
[19:22] <pip__> ha! samba - bane of my sunday
[19:23] <homedefense> actionparsnip I have 9 pending
[19:23] <RedHawk> iam: do you know the password for your wireless connection?
[19:23] <iam> RedHawk, yes
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> adalberto: are the folders being shared from windows?
[19:23] <iam> i'm on my wireless connection with my laptop right now
[19:23] <RedHawk> iam: have you entered it in to the wireless connection menu?
[19:23] <adalberto> No, from ubuntu to windows
[19:23] <iam> RedHawk, no connections are showing
[19:24] <adalberto> I can access the using the ubuntu ip address
[19:24] <iam> RedHawk, on this laptop, there's a list of them, but on the netbook there are none
[19:24] <adalberto> But using the ubuntu hostname it ask me for a password
[19:24] <iam> RedHawk, networking is enabled too
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> homedefense: yes. What is the output of the upgrade command
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: run: gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[19:25] <RedHawk> iam: thats a little disconcerting.
[19:25] <iam> RedHawk, is there a way to see if it's actually working, a command that lists wireless networks
[19:26] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: it opens a blank file...
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: change: send host-name "<hostname>" , to send host-name "the actual hostname of the system";
[19:26] <pip__> hi again, I've now got permission denied when trying to mount my samba share, anybody got any ideas?
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:26] <pip__> 13.10 64 bit, clean install, smbpasswd & smbuser freshly made
[19:26] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: ¿from windows?
[19:26] <daftykins> pip__: so did you use smbpasswd to set the password for your user first?
[19:26] <RedHawk> iam: here is a page with a walkthrough. http://askubuntu.com/questions/80402/broadcom-bcm4312-not-working
[19:26] <daftykins> ah
[19:27] <pip__> daftykins: before what?
[19:27] <daftykins> well, trying.
[19:27] <daftykins> pip__: also are you testing with smbclient?
[19:27] <iam> RedHawk, thanks :)
[19:27] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[19:27] <pip__> daftykins: yes, & yes.  perhaps I should set the share up again, the folder I mean
[19:27] <RedHawk> iam: no, keep in mind, you will need to plug into the wired connection to get internet to get the workaround working.
[19:27] <RedHawk> NP...
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: actually, smbclient is cli yes?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: its an ubuntu default file
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: if so I could probably do with the syntax again
[19:28] <daftykins> pip__: since you created it inside /media, are you sure you actually have rights on it, as your user?
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> RedHawk: the broadcom files are on the install cd too. Read the broadcom guide
[19:28] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: I don't understand what do you mean...
[19:28] <pip__> daftykins: erm, no..........
[19:28] <daftykins> pip__: it is CLI yes, "smbclient \\IP address\sharename -u username"
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> adalberto: its a file in ubuntu. Makes the system send the hostname to the dhcp server
[19:30] <adalberto> So...
[19:30] <adalberto> ActionParsnip:  What can I do...?
[19:32] <adalberto> ActionParsnip: ls /etc/dhcp3
[19:32] <adalberto> dhclient-enter-hooks.d
[19:33] <pip__> daftykins: smbclient returns an error, but I need to sort this ownership thing out I think
[19:33] <Mongo44> I think I am going to reinstall my OS. Is Ubuntu 14.04 out yet?
[19:34] <pip__> daftykins: the folder's on a second hdd, can I make the mountpoint elsewhere?
[19:34] <pip__> daftykins: would that even help?
[19:34] <KoreanZombie> milamber you still here?
[19:35] <Kirill> всем привет
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: no its not
[19:36] <Mongo44> I might just go with Wheezy it is more stable anyway.
[19:36] <KoreanZombie> milamber: I did it all as you said and I'm STILL stuck at black screen with blinking "_" and spamming left shift STILL does nothing :(
[19:37] <daftykins> pip__: just run this: "sudo chown yourusername: /path/to/your/share/path"
[19:39] <zykotick9> pip__: is it a FAT/NTFS formatted parition?  if so, daftykins command above won't help...
[19:39] <pip__> ext4
[19:39] <zykotick9> pip__: k, just checkin'
[19:39] <pip__> lol np
[19:40] <pip__> daftykins: aww man - permission denied
[19:40] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  how can i alter the desktop on (reg) ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS> to edubuntu 12.04.03 I downloaded all the updates to change it to edubuntu but dekstop, etc is still reg ubuntu flavor.
[19:41] <pip__> daftykins: but I think I can change the group too
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> rustuptwist: log off then log on to the xfce or edubuntu session
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: at the login screen(lightdm) you can choose the session type
[19:41] <adalberto> Well I gotta go... Sorry, you can help later
[19:42] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  i finally got net connectivity for the laptop in question with wifi issues (ethernet connected it to my mac) Still interested in seeing the print out of the lpsci, etc command?
[19:42] <pip__> daftykins: the chown changed some stuff, & I changed the group in the permissions tab to sambashare, but still no dice
[19:43] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: you gave me the important info that i needed to identify it
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> Mongo44: obviously....
[19:45] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  ok just wanted to make sure before i restart and lose that info. here is something that i found, not sure if it applies to my situation, though
[19:45] <rustuptwist> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863304/
[19:48] <rustuptwist> ActionParsnip:  the only options i seem to have are GNome Classic, Gnome Classic (No effects) Ubuntu, Ubuntu 2D. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place...
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> rustuptwist: that user is using a much older kernel. It's worth a shot at least
[19:49] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: hey, appparently the thing that I thought was causing the issue (setting boot device) was not it, now you said I should boot in the "try ubuntu without installing" via the installing USB I'm using, and do "!boot-repair" I'm not sure what u mean but I tried writing it in terminal and it said "event not found"
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !ubuntu 2d
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !gnome classic
[19:50] <rustuptwist> !gnome
[19:51] <rustuptwist> !xfce
[19:52] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair this is the info you need
[19:52] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO thank you, I will look into that
[19:54] <daftykins> pip__: can you use paste.ubuntu.com to show exactly what errors you're getting when trying to do things?
[19:55] <tux_1> Is there a top like command to monitor graphics cards?
[19:58] <rustuptwist> anyone used or using uberstudent  and can speak on its merits or lack thereof
[20:01] <hyprvx> Hello, I'm running xubuntu 13.10 saucy and my WiFi connections drop for no real reason
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> rustuptwist  not in this channel
[20:02] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: Alright, so I followed the link you provided, got the Boot Repair downloaded, ran the "recommended repair" and I got "The boot of your PC is in EFI mode, but no EFI partition was detected. You may want to retry after creating an EFI partition (FTA32, 100MB~250MB, start of the disk, boot flag) Do you want to continue?" - Now I'm not sure what that means, but I'm fairly sure I should press "Yes" and continue, I just w
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> ..be the key to what's wrong.
[20:03] <pip__> my cap's burned out with this - I'll try again tomorrow
[20:03] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: choose no.
[20:03] <pip__> g'nite folks
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO alright
[20:03] <KoreanZombie> operation is aborded.
[20:04] <hyprvx> I connect to a wifi network, and then a few minutes later it says "You are disconnected" and there's no wifi networks available
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: reinstall again, but choose legacy boot/bios boot/csm boot
[20:04] <zykotick9> hyprvx: broadcom?
[20:05] <hyprvx> zykotick9: I believe it's an atheros, how can I verify?
[20:05] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: That's something I choose when doing the partitioning after pressing "Something else", right?
[20:05] <zykotick9> hyprvx: hummm.  confirm with "lspci | grep -i net" or "lspci | grep -i wire" perhaps... lsusb if it's USB
[20:06] <Ozera> could anyone help with this: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1wtvy4/x509_client_certificate/ ?
[20:06] <hyprvx> Qualcomm Atheros AR928X PCI-E adapter, zykotick9
[20:06] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: or wait, is that something in the bios?
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yup
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: edit -> preferences -> advanced -> certificates -> import
[20:08] <zykotick9> hyprvx: sorry, i got nothin' to suggest... best of luck!
[20:08] <hyprvx> anyone else? an atheros wireless chipset keeps dropping wifi connections
[20:08] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, I know that. I specified in the thread the thread I knew that
[20:09] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, my question was what to do with the information i was given in the text file
[20:09] <hellbutt> Problem: Flash on YouTube only /sometimes/ works on Chromium Version 31.0.1650.63 Ubuntu 12.04 (31.0.1650.63-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>~20131204.1)
[20:10] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, so its the order in which it should boot I'm guessing? Legacy boot being the installation USB with Iso file/image? or what are those three exactly? I can only choose the two USB's (the one I'm installing FROM and the one I'm installing TO - sometimes there's both a "normal" version and one with "UEFI" in front but it seems random how many there are)
[20:10] <hellbutt> Often, it fails and displays "This video is currently unavailable"
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: you want to disable uefi boot for it essentially
[20:11] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, so do you have any idea about it?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: the text file is the cert. you're importing that into firefox
[20:12] <lickalott> gents, before I boot into gparted is there a way to remove/delete all existing partitions on a disk with fdisk or parted?  Everytime I've tried (4 free) it only lets me do a single partition which only leaves me with 75% of the disk
[20:12] <KoreanZombie> ok, I will look for that
[20:12] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: So if I manage to disable UEFI, that was the problem and it should theoritically work after another reinstall?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: yes. UEFI aint the best for doing an install on a removable drive
[20:13] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, thank you very much weird this is not mentioned in any of the guides I've tried following
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: UEFI is still relatively new and installing to usb isn't don't a lot so it would be missing
[20:14] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, well, there is other non-related information in the same file. So I have to take that information and save it in a different file. Do I copy/paste everything (the cert-blahlah.pem and the --begin cert-- word words --end cert--) into a new file?
[20:15] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: Ah I see, I guess my mobo was "too new" for me :P
[20:15] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, if so, what file extension do  use
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: try first to grab the file as is. it may pickup the cert info as is. alto some software are very sensitive when it comes to handling certs. .pem is grand for an extention, it doesn't really matter, you'll prob just need to choose "All files" when importing. if not, pull --being-- to --end-- into a file, make sure there is 1 and only 1 retutn character after --end-- and none before --begin-- and then try importing that
[20:20] <KoreanZombie> HitsujiTMO: hmm do you think it's under "Boot Device Control" which was set to "UEFI and Legacy OpROM" and I need to change this to "Legacy OpROM only" or is this something else entirely?
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> KoreanZombie: its different from manufacturer to manufacturer, but that does sound like the correct setting
[20:21] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: alright, I thought so aswell. Will save changes, reboot and see what happens
[20:23] <neredsenvy> I have dual monitors and sticky edges off however everytime my mouse croses from one screen to the other it gets stuck and i have to move out and in to the first monitor again.
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> neredsenvy  your question being...?µ
[20:25] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, what file extension do i save the --begin-- to --end--
[20:25] <KoreanZombie> hiitsujiTMO: Alright, now it only recognized non-UEFI and I have begun another reinstallation. If this one is actually succesfull I will be over the moon! Thanks a lot for all your help so far!
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: .pem or whatever. it doesn't matter
[20:25] <cuddylier> How would I know when my server box runs out of RAM by looking at the system log?
[20:26] <guntbert> cuddylier: look at the output of   free
[20:27] <cuddylier> guntbert No, when when looking at the system log after it crashed.
[20:27] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: it it runs out of RAM physical + virtual you'll see a truckload of crash dumps followed by a system reboot
[20:27] <cuddylier> I can paste one here if you like
[20:27] <guntbert> cuddylier: ah you said system logs - there you will find it only very late
[20:27] <guntbert> !paste | cuddylier
[20:28] <cuddylier> Yeah, I'm not that silly :P
[20:28] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, FF -> Edit -> Preferences-> advanced -> View Certificates -> Your Certificates -> import:    I can't see the .pem i saved
[20:28] <cuddylier> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6863559/
[20:28] <Ozera> o nvm
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: change to "all files" as i said earlier
[20:28] <cuddylier> Previous to that log it was just showing my cronjob
[20:28] <Ozera> yea
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> cuddylier: id install nagios and have it email when the ram is low
[20:29] <manikanta> hello
[20:29] <manikanta> I have a doubt
[20:29] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, "please enter the password that was used to create this certificate backup", um how am i supposed to know that
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> cuddylier: hve you a syslog from before it restarted?
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: you should be supplied with it
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: try a blank password if you weren't
[20:30] <manikanta> I just want to know where the user id's and salt values are stored :? I know they are stored in file , but where will it be ?
[20:30] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, I was given AWS info, the cert-wordswords.pem thing (what is that anyway), the --begin cert-- to --end cert-- thing, and a private key
[20:30] <cuddylier> hitsujiTMO Yes
[20:30] <guntbert> xmetal: cuddylier thats the wrong one - thats from after the reboot
[20:30] <cuddylier> I believe part of that log is before and after
[20:30] <cuddylier> Ah
[20:30] <cuddylier> Ahh yes
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: stored in the dank dark merky shadow of the linux file system
[20:31] <cuddylier> There seems to be a big gap in timings..
[20:31] <guntbert> cuddylier: I din't see any
[20:31] <manikanta> /etc/shadow ??
[20:31] <manikanta> is it correct ?
[20:31] <lickalott> this is what I get after I run through fdisk (this is a 750GB drive)   /dev/sdb1    688G    198M   653G    (Size   Used   Avail)
[20:32] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: exactly
[20:32] <lickalott> it still shows 3 "free" partitions but fdisk won't kill them
[20:32] <cuddylier> guntbert I mean in the files I have
[20:32] <cuddylier> The box restarted two hours ago and its timezone is GMT -8
[20:32] <manikanta>  manikanta:$6$j8xyhThw$PVd9LiKMDdEpjqdYHx.szcu7ZlsBUXL83rpH1EW3ADix6ShEmX/OFh4C8vgIl85PwOh2n0aT4ZtjGFwP8HqZg1:16094:0:99999:7:::
[20:33] <manikanta> what does this line tell us ?
[20:33] <jrib> manikanta: yeah, you really shouldn't paste hashes here like that
[20:33] <guntbert> manikanta: posting the contents of /etc/shadow is *never* a good idea
[20:33] <manikanta> like what is the pattern followed there ?
[20:33] <jrib> manikanta: man 5 shadow
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: its detailed in: man shadow
[20:33] <manikanta> okay :)
[20:33] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, what is the cert-wordswords.pem thing?
[20:34] <TJ-> manikanta: "man shadow"
[20:34] <guntbert> manikanta: you should probably change your password now
[20:34] <manikanta> sure !
[20:34] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: a certificate
[20:34] <manikanta> is there a way to decrypt that hash value ?
[20:35] <TJ-> manikanta: No, not decryption, but it could be compared against rainbow tables if the salt is known
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: .pem Defined in RFC's 1421 through 1424, this is a container format that may include just the public certificate (such as with Apache installs, and CA certificate files /etc/ssl/certs), or may include an entire certificate chain including public key, private key, and root certificates. The name is from Privacy Enhanced Email, a failed method for secure email but the container format it used lives on.
[20:36] <hitsujiTMO> manikanta: brute force
[20:36] <manikanta> how to know salt ?
[20:36] <guntbert> TJ-: the salt IS known, it's part of the entry
[20:36] <TJ-> guntbert: precisely :)
[20:36] <manikanta> where is it , is it in that line ?
[20:36] <guntbert> manikanta: man shadow :-))
[20:37] <cowbacon> manikanta: if thats your user and you use the same password anywhere else you need to change it right now everywhere
[20:39] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, so am I supposed to save the --begin-- to --end-- part in a .pem file and save it in /etc/ssl/certs?
[20:39] <gry> hi, how do I update /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt ? I get error "error: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none while accessing <an URL here>". ca-certificate package is already a latest version, but it's 2011. I'm on 12.04
[20:39] <gry> what is TMO?
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: no. thats for a specific use of a differend kind of cert. to import it info firefox do as i said earlier
[20:40] <Merandus> hello, i have a ubuntu 13.1 server. can i update it to 14.4 alpha?
[20:40] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, ah. Hm, it didn't work for just entering a blank pw
[20:41] <bekks> Merandus: Is it a production server?
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> Ozera: then you need to find out what the password is. check the companies faq for info
[20:41] <Merandus> bekks: no, it's my personal server, i use it to learn things.
[20:43] <Ozera> hitsujiTMO, okay
[20:43] <marix_> hello , newbie here , need few tips for wifi
[20:44] <sugnuiu> !lista
[20:44] <sugnuiu> !list
[20:44] <gry> sugnuiu, ciao
[20:44] <lickalott> ok, scratch the format thing.  I'll figure that out on my own.    I just installed the latest nvidia driver package for my video card rebooted and settings still shows "unknown" for Graphics.  Is there something else I need to do?
[20:44] <marix_> ciao , mi serve aiuto
[20:44] <lickalott> it registered itself with X
[20:46] <marix_> ciao , mi serve aiuto  ,need help please ;D
[20:46] <gry> !it
[20:46] <gry> marix_: although what's up with wifi?
[20:47] <mdbrim> who wants to help a newb setup x11vnc on a headless setup? i've spent 2 straight days on google and nothing has helped!
[20:47] <marix_> hello , i installed ubuntu lst one from original site , on a old hp , all was good but i cant install wifi usb stick ... tried few thing from google but nothing
[20:48] <kreuger> Hey guys, I can't log into my desktop because I think of some corrupt user settings. Can I create a new user via live cd and use that to login?
[20:49] <marix_> con u contact me in private for help please . wont get u too much time
[20:49] <guntbert> marix_: keep support in the channel please
[20:50] <marix_> ok
[20:50] <Ozera> What is the difference in the ip address google tells me and the ipaddress I look up in my terminal?
[20:50] <marix_> so , ubuntio doest recognize internal wifi , and i cant reach any System > Administation > Hardware Drivers window ..there is none
[20:50] <jamesd> Ozera: your desktop may be behind one or more firwalls that are doing NAT...
[20:52] <Ozera> jamesd, NAT?
[20:53] <guntbert> kreuger: not directly, you need to chmod into the system with a few steps for preparation
[20:53] <Ozera> jamesd, so if someone asks why my ipaddress is should I tell them what google says it is or what it says in my terminal
[20:53] <jamesd> Ozera: network address translation... it aloows many hosts to share a single ip address and provides some security as well
[20:53] <kreuger> guntbert, would you mind showing me how?
[20:54] <jamesd> Ozera: is your ip address on the host like  10.x.x.x  or 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x
[20:54] <jamesd> replace x with any number between 1 and 255
[20:54] <guntbert> kreuger: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery please
[20:55] <kreuger> guntbert, awesome, thanks
[20:55] <guntbert> kreuger: but it would be easier to create a new use from CLI
[20:55] <guntbert> *user
[20:55] <kreuger> I cant get in at all, but I have no issue using cli
[20:55] <ezrhino> hello. I have disabled checking for update from startup menu but it still checks on boot. Any ideas?
[20:55] <marix_>  anyone can tell me how to reack window for devices in ubuntu 13.10
[20:57] <guntbert> kreuger: in CLI type    sudo adduser <the newone> ; sudo adduser <thenewone> sudo
[20:58] <xxx> Hello!
[21:01] <KoreanZombie> hitsujiTMO: omfg it worked! Finally! After 3 days and ~25 hours of actively trying to install different ubuntu/linux versions, you solved the rubix cube and made it work. I hope all kinds of good karma comes your way, have a wonderful day!
[21:07] <hj2007> hi, can anyone please help me increasing the ulimit from 10k to 40k. I've tried every measure as given on forums but it's not working. Here is the detailed problem http://superuser.com/questions/710476/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[21:11] <ulkesh> hj2007: read through http://posidev.com/blog/2009/06/04/set-ulimit-parameters-on-ubuntu/  and then reboot
[21:11] <ulkesh> hj2007: i mean after doing what it says, reboot then it should take effect, i've used that guide a few times and it's worked
[21:12] <hj2007> ulkesh: I've already seen that blog and followed what it said, but it is not helping
[21:12] <hj2007> ulkesh: please check the SO link that I have provided. I'm stuck at 10000 limit
[21:14] <ulkesh> hj2007: you say in your link that you added the session required pam_limits.so to /etc/pam.d/su but the link i gave you says to do it in  /etc/pam.d/common-session
[21:15] <hj2007> ulkesh: even "/etc/pam.d/common-session" file in my system has "session required pam_limits.so"
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: and you've rebooted?
[21:16] <hj2007> ulkesh: yes
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: yeah then i'm at a loss, i've always had it work by following that link's instructions
[21:16] <ulkesh> hj2007: sorry :(
[21:16] <hj2007> ulkesh: oh ok, btw thanks for the help
[21:17] <ulkesh> hj2007: maybe double check that you don't have something setting the ulimit in ~/.bashrc /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile
[21:17] <ulkesh> hj2007: sadly i'm not much help on this one :( hope you get it working soon!
[21:19] <hj2007> ulkesh: bingo, you are right "/etc/profile" had the issue. thank you so much :)
[21:19] <ulkesh> hj2007: oh cool!  most welcome, glad that's all it was
[21:19] <hj2007> ulkesh: hopefully, let me restart :)
[21:23] <mikodo> Hi, Quick Question. I need to move my home partition (Ubuntu 10.04), to a supported one. I would like it to be Xubuntu 12.04 for now. Would the "dot" filesbe compatible from Ubuntu to Xubuntu in my seperate home partition, or would it be best to stick with Ubuntu 12.04 because of that/?
[21:24] <ikonia> mikodo: delete them
[21:24] <mikodo> Oh it is  the Desktop version of Ubuntu 10.04
[21:24] <ikonia> yes I read what you said
[21:26] <mikodo> ikonia, Thanks!
[21:27] <ianorlin> but can't there be irc logs in dot files you may want to keep
[21:28] <ikonia> they would be in the irc clients logs directory, not configuration
[21:28] <ianorlin> yes which for weechat is ~/.weechat/logs
[21:28] <ikonia> right, so "logs" directory, applying common sense eg: keep anythin gyou want
[21:30] <Nodgic> Hi
[21:30] <Nodgic> What are some good free antivirus/malware software for linux?
[21:32] <rww> !virus
[21:33] <Nodgic> Well i kinda suspected that but someone mentioned to me that there is malware for linux because a lot of servers run linux
[21:34] <ikonia> ignore anything that person ever tells you again then
[21:34] <Nodgic> alright
[21:35] <daftykins> malware will always exist, but likely it will come in forms that are very different to what you expect
[21:35] <daftykins> for example, a Linux web server could spread infections, but it may not be infected itself
[21:35] <Nodgic> ah right
[21:35] <Nodgic> i guess im safe then
[21:35] <ikonia> you're as safe as you make it
[21:39] <BoxsDown> i ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade on a friends computer 5 days ago then got the flu. apparently every since i left, wifi has been down for him. looking at syslog i see a bunch of errors about rt2500 failing to enter state 4
[21:39] <BoxsDown> any idea why wifi is not working/how to fix?
[21:40] <ikonia> kernel change and incompatible 3rd party driver
[21:40] <ikonia> (at a guess)
[21:40] <lickalott> you could try enabling the proposed repositories (software center > edit > software sources > updates) then try an update and/or upgrade
[21:41] <BoxsDown> its a native driver that is supposed to work out of the box
[21:41] <ikonia> lickalott: why ?
[21:41] <ikonia> lickalott: why do such a stupid random thing ?
[21:41] <BoxsDown> because there might be a fix
[21:41] <ikonia> BoxsDown: I think you need to get the exact errors
[21:41] <ikonia> BoxsDown: why not reboot into a fedora CD...that may fix it too...it won't be it's just random
[21:41] <BoxsDown> give me some time to get a text file out of that computer and pastebinit
[21:42] <lickalott> its worked for nvidia drivers in the past ikonia
[21:42] <lickalott> just trying to help
[21:42] <ikonia> lickalott: then you are very lucky many other things didn't break
[21:43] <BoxsDown> i havent had any problem with the proposed repository
[21:43] <BoxsDown> but without internet it will do nothing
[21:43] <lickalott> my understanding was that this was defaulted in 12.10 but those still running 12.04 needed to enable it for specific driver sets.
[21:43] <s0u][ight> hey, what happened to ubuntu for android?
[21:43] <ikonia> s0u][ight: dead
[21:44] <lickalott> i could be a complete retard also....  I think Obama is an alien cause that's what I read on the internet
[21:44] <popey> ikonia: nope
[21:44] <ikonia> popey: educate then
[21:44] <popey> s0u][ight: it's still under development, but hasn't been released yet
[21:44] <wes_> i have a question.  is ubuntu server just normal ubuntu without X?
[21:44] <s0u][ight> popey: where can I find additional information?
[21:44] <bekks> wes_: Basically yes.
[21:45] <popey> s0u][ight: only what's on ubuntu.com, it's currently being demonstrated to carriers / handset manufacturers I believe.
[21:45] <wes_> if i remove xorg will that remove unity?
[21:46] <bekks> wes_: Yes.
[21:46] <s0u][ight> oh, I wish i could use my tablet as a desktop, i have a keyboard and mouse attached already
[21:46] <wes_> ss0][ight: what kind of tablet is it?
[21:47] <BoxsDown> why cant you?
[21:47] <jamesd> s0u][ight: 1. i would miss my 27" monitors, or #2.. i would look wierd carrying around a 27" tablet, people would be asking is that an iphone 7 or something.
[21:48] <BoxsDown> okay here is a sample of my syslog: http://pastebin.com/FAWJixqt
[21:49] <s0u][ight> jamesd: i have a nexus 7, ever since i got it, it replaced my netbook, it is way better in terms of  performance, battery life and much more, and i am used  to small displays
[21:50] <BoxsDown> a lot of third world countries are using Anfroid as a desktop OS
[21:50] <BoxsDown> Android*
[21:50] <wes_> what are you wantingto do with it?
[21:51] <BoxsDown> looking at that error, can anyone venture a guess as to how to get wifi working again? please i dont want to re-install again. this box has been formatted like 20 times in the past year
[21:52] <Anomylous> what is the error?
[21:52] <BoxsDown> http://pastebin.com/FAWJixqt
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> BoxsDown: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:53] <BoxsDown> lets find out
[21:54] <BoxsDown> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[21:54] <BoxsDown> is what i got in return
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> 13.04 is !eol
[21:54] <BoxsDown> i have never been able to connect to wifi using 13.10 (on any of my wifi cards)
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: raring is no longer supported in any way
[21:55] <BoxsDown> it refuses to connect, keeps telling me the password to connect to the AP is wrong
[21:55] <MegaDrive> hello
[21:55] <MegaDrive> where can i seek help regarding 3g modems and linux
[21:55] <BoxsDown> so can you help me with getting wifi working in 13.10?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> Boxsdown: try 12.04 which is LTS. You could even install Trusty which is LTS and released in April 2014
[21:55] <MegaDrive> is there any applications that will show more indepth information
[21:55] <BoxsDown> MegaDrive:  this place is a good start. what do you need help with specifically?
[21:56] <Anomylous> what 3g modem is it?
[21:56] <Fevix> Hello, my mother needs help with Ubuntu 13.10 64-bit. She purchased and installed a game through the Ubuntu Software Center, but it does not show up in the pane on the left, nor does the computer find it when she searches for it using the search pane.
[21:56] <SN3> hello
[21:56] <MegaDrive> oh everything is working, just want a applet or a term or something that provides more information, regarding signal
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Megadrive: run: lsusb ,use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[21:56] <MegaDrive> its a mobi modem
[21:56] <MegaDrive> in my elitebook
[21:56] <MegaDrive> works fine
[21:56] <FloodBot1> MegaDrive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <BoxsDown> gobi?
[21:57] <MegaDrive> yes its a hp 3g modem
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Fevix: can you run it from ALT+F2
[21:57] <MegaDrive> let me get its name
[21:57] <MegaDrive> 2 tits
[21:57] <Anomylous> whos mom needid help?
[21:57] <MegaDrive> ticks
[21:57] <Fevix> Mine
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> MegaDrive: the ID will help you find guides
[21:57] <Anomylous> what is the name of the game?
[21:57] <Anomylous> ?
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> Anomylous  sure you're in the right channel?
[21:58] <Fevix> Don't know. Haven't asked. She's on the phone with me.
[21:58] <MegaDrive> i will use the usb id
[21:58] <MegaDrive> :)
[21:58] <BoxsDown> it would be helpful to know what app we are working with
[21:58] <MegaDrive> i want to send and receive sms's with it
[21:58] <Fevix> She just told me she gets "SOft reset failed" whenever it wakes up from sleep, and it takes ~5 mins to wake to show that
[21:59] <MegaDrive> and see more in depth signal strength
[21:59] <Anomylous> monkeydust: what are you saying?
[21:59] <MegaDrive> in db's if possible
[21:59] <BoxsDown> its having problems with power management, i'd disable sleep for now
[22:00] <DougsTech> sepeck, My Skype random freezes (gray screen), while it's frozen it uses around the 100% of my CPU (htop). What could be the problem? Also, sometimes it unfreezes after a period, but sometimes its like forever. Running Ubuntu 13.10. It doesn't crash, just freezes..
[22:00] <zophy> why ?
[22:00] <shutch> hi all. trying to install 13.10 in a virtualbox vm and getting an error: Sorry Ubuntu 13.04 has experienced an internal error /usr/bin/compiz
[22:01] <DougsTech> zophy, yo yo
[22:01] <zophy> 13.10 runs for me
[22:01] <Anomylous> shutch: try goving your vm  ore VRAM
[22:01] <zophy> DougsTech, hello !!
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> DougsTech: if you make a new Ubuntu user, is it the same there?
[22:01] <shutch> Anomylous: how much? already at 1280mb
[22:01] <DougsTech> zophy, too bad the ise didn't work
[22:02] <Anomylous> no, video ram.  and enable 3d acceleration
[22:02] <zophy> if i don't get banned or quieted everyday i don't feel well :)
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> shutch: sounds like you are trying to install Raring....
[22:02] <DougsTech> zophy, lol
[22:02] <Sia-> with ubuntu 13.10 the laptop doesn't suspend if i clode Lid it?
[22:03] <Sia-> what did you change again?
[22:03] <haemus> how can I get the word count of the date file in the term?
[22:04] <yeats> haemus: 'wc'
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Haemus: man wc
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> haemus: wc -w file
[22:05] <Fevix> Update: The game seems to have vanished from the Software Center. Sukaro. It's telling her she needs to buy it again, though she already has.
[22:05] <haemus> yeah, but I just wasnt sure where this date file is even at
[22:05] <haemus> wc -w date, wont work
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> date | wc - w ,perhaps
[22:07] <profligacy> http://play.typeracer.com/?rt=vbm1ikq2qt23
[22:07] <haemus> ok that worked, i was trying wc | date -.-
[22:07] <haemus> ty! < linux noob
[22:08] <shutch> ActionParsnip: 13.10
[22:08] <Fevix> Update again: She found the installer, though she swears she already installed it. She's going to install it, I'll wait here in case she has more problems.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> Shutch: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[22:09] <shutch> ActionParsnip: yea
[22:11] <haemus> cat file1 < file2, cat file1 << file2, does the first one overwrite, and the second one append?
[22:12] <shutch> Anomylous: yep, gave it 64MB of video ram, all good
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> haemus: ive used the redirection the other way. If you want to write to a file then work to the right
[22:12] <haemus> yeah just noticed, that was a typo
[22:13] <zykotick9> haemus: i think you mean "file > file2" and "file >> file2", the latter will append
[22:13] <haemus> yeah thats what I meant, ty
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Or you can use tee :-)
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> echo "text" | tee file ,to overwrite. echo "text" | tee -a file ,to add
[22:24] <ubuntunewserver> I am trying to set up a new computer and having problems with the wifi. I used 12.04 LTS server CD and then added the desktop gnome client. I can connect to my wifi rounter, but I cannot get the internet