[15:43] <Bashing-om> Knight80: Ouch ! Per: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio ; What you have there is a professional level operating system, NOT a mere application. In my humble opinion will take someone familiar with that operating system to assit you. The best I can say - feeble - is to fresh install .
[15:43] <maddawg2> because another possibility is that they block the port your vpn server and client connect on
[15:44] <TikityTik> maddawg2: I tried changing it to TCP 443, it connects to websites
[15:44] <TikityTik> but the connection keeps restarting
[15:45] <Bernzel> Is there any chance that "sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean" would remove something important? Or personal files?
[15:45] <TikityTik> thus there's a delay as eachtime the connection restablishes
[15:45] <TJ-> eugenio_: Hmmm, you have a few problems there. The easiest to fix is that partition #1 should be type 0x8300, not 0xEF00. The harder problem is you need to find 1MiB of space (2048 sectors) to create another partition of type 0xEF02 (BIOS Boot). If you can do that, then 'grub-install' will be successful.
[15:45] <maddawg2> Bernzel  no
[15:45] <Knight80> Bashing-om I'm just trying to delete the repositories I don't need
[15:45] <TJ-> eugenio_: I have to leave now; someone else should be able to help if you get unstuck.
[15:45] <Bernzel> maddawg2, good thanks!
[15:45] <maddawg2> TikityTik, then there might be something your school is doing
[15:45] <maddawg2> i cant tell you for sure tho
[15:46] <maddawg2> all i can do is say to test it on another wifi and see if it works
[15:46] <eugenio_> TJ-: I just have this space free
[15:46] <maddawg2> if it works there then you'll know the problem is with the school
[15:46] <Knight80> Bashing-om I mean, I installed an DAW called Ardour, and I needed to add kxstudio repositories
[15:46] <Knight80> a DAW, sorry
[15:46] <maddawg2> alternatively you can try another vpn service like Private Internet Access...  that's what i use everywhere i go
[15:46] <TJ-> eugenio_: someone might be able to help you shrink sda1 and the file-system inside it by say 2MiB ( best to have more space than less) to create a gap between sda1 and sda2 where you can put the BIOS boot partition
[15:47] <maddawg2> helps me bypass my school's and works' filters
[15:47] <Knight80> I'm on Ubuntu 15.04
[15:47] <maddawg2> TJ- he can use gparted to do that
[15:48] <eugenio_> maddawg2: hi, do you mean gparted from live session?
[15:49] <Knight80> So you don't recommend me to install repositories from older Ubuntu versions?
[15:50] <auronandace> Knight80: never mix repos from different releases, it will break your system
[15:50] <Knight80> auronandace Thank you
[15:50] <sienez> is there a way to boot into ubuntu without grub available? I have a dual boot windows/ubuntu and I want to reinstall windows, which will overwrite grub. so what to do?
[15:51] <auronandace> sienez: you can reinstall grub afterwards
[15:51] <auronandace> !grub | sienez
[15:51] <maddawg2> you can do that OR you can use the windows bootloader
[15:52] <maddawg2> but you'll have to modify it's entries manually
[15:52] <maddawg2> i prefer grub tho
[15:53] <Knight80> auronandace Will you please help me removing ppa's?
[15:53] <Knight80> 'sudo apt-get update' returns the error 404
[15:53] <Knight80> And it does not complete the task
[15:53] <auronandace> !ppapurge | Knight80
[15:54] <Knight80> auronandace That's what I'm trying to do
[15:54] <auronandace> Knight80: i never use ppas so all i can do is point you to that above factoid sorry
[15:54] <sienez> auronandace, thanks. so all I need is a bootable drive with ubuntu on it and then I run it in try-out mode to repair grub?
[15:55] <Bashing-om> Knight80: I do regret - in a limited way - that with kxstudio as a operating system it is way above my abilities to advise on how to remove it . And even if one could remove it, I highly doubt that the resulting operating system would be functional.
[15:55] <auronandace> sienez: essentially yes
[15:56] <sienez> auronandace, great, now I just need to figure out how to do that with only 1 usb stick available.. thanks for your help :)
[15:58] <Knight80> Bashing-om Are you telling me my OS is not Ubuntu?
[15:58] <Knight80> Just asking...
[15:59] <cfhowlett> Knight80, easy enough to test.  open a terminal:  cat /etc/issue | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:00] <Knight80> cfhowlett http://termbin.com/14sa
[16:00] <cfhowlett> seems like legit ubuntu
[16:01] <Knight80> cfhowlett That's what I'm telling Bashing-om, I've got Ubuntu with kxstudio repositories installed
[16:01] <eugenio_> I have a few problems. My partition #1 should be type 0x8300, not 0xEF00. The harder problem is you need to find 1MiB of space (2048 sectors) to create another partition of type 0xEF02 (BIOS Boot). If I can do that, then 'grub-install' will be successful, anybody can help me?
[16:01] <cfhowlett> Knight80, then you mixed repos --- not recommended for many reason.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> !gparted | eugenio_
[16:02] <arcsky> encrypt your harddrive what program do you guys recommend?
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !encryption | arcsky
[16:03] <Knight80> cfhowlett Nothing seems to go wrong...
[16:03] <auronandace> Knight80: dependencies will go wrong, very wrong
[16:04] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[16:04] <Knight80> cfhowlett So, I shouldn't install any ppa's at all?
[16:04] <auronandace> Knight80: mixing repos is a sure fire way to break your system, unfortunately it isn't really something you undo
[16:04] <cfhowlett> Knight80, it's one thing to add a ppa (unsupported) it's a whole different level of pain to mix repos.
[16:05] <Knight80> cfhowlett I just installed kxstudio's ppa
[16:05] <Knight80> It's a ppa after all, am I right?
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yep.  they are supposed to support it.
[16:06] <rymate1234> Just installed fglrx on my laptop with AMD / Intel hybrid graphics - the drivers seem to work fine when using a single screen, but when I use my second monitor the output seems to be , massively offset - see this image http://images.rymate.co.uk/images/lat0b7F.jpeg
[16:06] <ioria> eugenio_, it'a a fresh install ? nothing on it ?
[16:07] <Knight80> What do you recommend me to do, then?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Knight80,  depends on your goal.  making music?  sudo apt install ubuntustudio-music          otherwise, download and install kxstudio or artistx
[16:08] <cfhowlett> or fedora-jams
[16:09] <Knight80> cfhowlett But... ubuntustudio-music is another distro's package, isn't it?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !studio | Knight80
[16:10] <wildc4rd> anyone had any luck getting Netflix to work through chrome on ubuntu?
[16:10] <eugenio_> ioria: the / is a fresh install, /home I used the once I had before
[16:10] <tgm4883> wildc4rd: uh, it just works?
[16:11] <Knight80> cfhowlett So I have to start from scratch, I should reinstall the whole OS again, right?
[16:11] <auronandace> !netflix | wildc4rd
[16:11] <arcsky> ubottu: i want to encrypt full drive
[16:11] <underyodr> wildc4rd: I think You need it mimicking it's on windows
[16:11] <arcsky> cfhowlett:  i want to encrypt full drive
[16:11] <cfhowlett> Knight80, for the sake of your sanity, yes clean install ubuntu
[16:12] <cfhowlett> arcsky, I've not done an encryption, can only point to that factoid
[16:12] <Knight80> cfhowlett And then ubuntustudio-music?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yes you can add the ubuntustudio-music metapackage to a plain vanilla ubuntu
[16:13] <auronandace> Knight80: or you could just get the ubuntu studio iso
[16:14] <digs> I am curious how I can update my 12.04 system but keep the currently installed major version of php. We have a legacy application that I must support for another 9 months and I can't move beyond php 5.3.x - Maybe first, I should know how to tell what version of apt-get upgrade will install?
[16:15] <cfhowlett> digs, test it.  apt-get -s upgrade will demo the coming attractions without installation
[16:15] <somsip> !info php5 trusty | digs (if you go from LTS to LTS, you will have to pin 5.3.10)
[16:15] <Knight80> I rather install Ubuntu 15.04 and then ubuntustudio-music, I would like to be able to do many other things apart from making music.
[16:15] <cfhowlett> digs, test it.  apt-get -s dist-upgrade      >>> 12.04.4
[16:15] <digs> Thank you guys.
[16:15] <digs> how do I "pin" v5.3.10 ?
[16:16] <auronandace> digs: 12.04 is supported until 2017 so you don't need to upgrade before your 9 months are up
[16:16] <cfhowlett> !pin | digs
[16:16] <somsip> !pinning | digs (not sure how well this will work across version upgrades though)
[16:16] <Knight80> There's no package named ubuntustudio-music in Ubuntu's software Centre...
[16:16] <Knight80> :(
[16:17] <cfhowlett> Knight80, no.  there's not.  it's a META-package.  and that's why I gave you the terminal command.
[16:17] <OerHeks> Knight80, metapackage is ubuntu-studio
[16:17] <digs> apt-get -s upgrade | grep php -- Result: Conf php5 (5.3.10-1ubuntu3.19 Ubuntu:12.04/precise-updates [all]) - How do I know what version it will move to?
[16:18] <somsip> digs: if you go to 14.04, 5.5.9
[16:18] <Knight80> What a mess
[16:18] <joe_w> Dp
[16:18] <cfhowlett> Knight80, my error.  ME!  I was wrong.    apt-cache show ubuntustudio-audio        will display
[16:18] <digs> Ahh, no, I plan to stay withing 12.04 - just updating current packages.
[16:18] <kiran> hey
[16:18] <somsip> digs: 5.3.10 was final for 12.04 IIRC
[16:18] <digs> okay.
[16:19] <somsip> !info php5 precise | digs
[16:19] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Knight80 Per: http://kxstudio.linuxaudio.org/Documentation:Manual:installing_kxstudio ; kxstudio is much more than a simple PPA .. I read it that a Operating System will be installed ? Do I miss-understand ?
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, that's what I read as well!
[16:19] <digs> I have created an instance copy so if things are foobar I can just delete and start over.
[16:19] <digs> Thanks for the prompt info all.
[16:19] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, I recall a tutorial to add the repos to ubuntu, but I think that was unofficial
[16:19] <Knight80> How do I install that META-package then?
[16:19] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: K; I do feel the better in my recomendation of a clean fresh install .
[16:20] <thevaliantx>  #raspberrypi
[16:20] <cfhowlett> Knight80, sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio
[16:20] <Knight80> ok
[16:20] <Knight80> sorry for my ignorance
[16:20] <cfhowlett> Knight80, and you ARE adding this to a clean install of ubuntu, right?
[16:21] <Knight80> cfhowlett Not yet, I was just testing
[16:21] <Knight80> cfhowlett Do you know ardour?
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Knight80, fair enough.  test like this: apt-get -s install ubuntustudio-audio        will tell you what's coming
[16:22] <cfhowlett> Knight80, I've know OF ardour, but never used it.  audacity has satisfied my needs
[16:23] <Lara_> ?
[16:24] <Knight80> cfhowlett Sorry about my bad english...
[16:25] <Lara_> Hello, Lara here
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Knight80, no need to apologize at all!  happy2help!  and for the record, I've lived in Beijing for over 3 years.  the most fluent thing I can say in mandarin is "I don't speak Mandarin."
[16:25] <cfhowlett> Lara_, ask your ubuntu question
[16:28] <easyOnMe> hi fellas
[16:28] <Knight80> cfhowlett So you think my english is bad, hahaha
[16:28] <Knight80> cfhowlett :)
[16:28] <Knight80> I'm spanish
[16:28] <easyOnMe> hi cfhowlett
[16:28] <cfhowlett> what can I say Knight80.  I'm an english teacher.
[16:28] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, greetins.
[16:28] <easyOnMe> just asking how do I get rid of these pop ups whenever I browse something on the internet
[16:28] <thevaliantx> cfhowlett, those who do ... do.  those who don't ... lol
[16:29] <easyOnMe> I just noticed this happening today
[16:29] <cfhowlett> easyOnMe, firefox has plugins to block popups
[16:29] <Lara_> I just update my ubuntu 14.04 to 14.10 v
[16:29] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, use a popup plugin, many browsers have them in a store
[16:29] <Lara_> and graph environment not works anymore
[16:29] <cfhowlett> Lara_, then you updated to a no longer supported versoin.  unwise.
[16:29] <auronandace> Lara_: 14.10 is no longer supported
[16:30] <easyOnMe> OerHeks: I am using google's chromium on linux
[16:30] <Lara_> wtf
[16:30] <Lara_> if its a newer version
[16:30] <easyOnMe> will there be anything like that for chromium on linux
[16:30] <cfhowlett> Lara_, no need for that kind of language.
[16:30] <Lara_> sry*
[16:30] <auronandace> Lara_: 14.04 is an LTS release, 14.10 was not
[16:30] <auronandace> !lts
[16:30] <fellayaboy> what do you get lara
[16:30] <fellayaboy> your graphic environment doesnt work?
[16:31] <Lara_> yes
[16:31] <Lara_> i can control alt f1 and log in via console
[16:31] <fcanela> hi, #ubuntu. I suggested this channel to Lara_
[16:31] <Lara_> but need my graph env.
[16:31] <OerHeks> easyOnMe, sure. use the chrome webstore, there are many, choose the one you like best
[16:31] <fcanela> as long as he explained me by phone, seems like xorg is unable to find a screen
[16:31] <cfhowlett> Lara_, 14.10 is end of life and no longer supported.  install a supported version; 14.04, 15.10 or 12.04
[16:31] <fellayaboy> Lara_, i pmed you
[16:31] <fcanela> tried to locate the xorg.conf but seems ubuntu changed way too much since last time I had to dig on this
[16:32] <OerHeks> !pm
[16:32] <thevaliantx> anyone in here use Raspberry PI2?
[16:32] <Lara_> hi fcanela ty
[16:33] <daftykins> thevaliantx: can you ask the actual question?
[16:33] <auronandace> thevaliantx: if you want to run ubuntu on that you may want the arm channel
[16:33] <auronandace> !arm | thevaliantx
[16:33] <Lara_> so how can i upgrade a newer version?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Lara_, or download the .iso and clean install
[16:34] <thevaliantx> daftykins, i did ask the actual question, lol .... if someone says "hey, i use raspberry pi" then i have additional questions ;)
[16:34] <daftykins> thevaliantx: no - you're just wasting peoples time like that, if you asked the NEXT question - that's how things work around here. However i second the suggestion of the ARM channel.
[16:35] <cfhowlett> thevaliantx, for future reference :  https://inkscape.org/media/cms_page_media/56/ask-smart-questions.pdf
[16:35] <Lara_> I dont care if I lose any file or smthing. Im just want to format it with last version. But the problem is i cant boot from usb or dvd. I 've already the .iso downloaded and burned in a usb and a dvd
[16:35] <thevaliantx> isn't the Arduino associated with ARM?
[16:35] <daftykins> thevaliantx: that's not a relevant point of discussion here.
[16:35] <OerHeks> Lara_, really? how did you install ubuntu now?
[16:36] <Lara_> so, any way to update version via console?
[16:36] <thevaliantx> daftykins, i'm just going to sit back and lol at you.  It would say more than anything I could say ;)
[16:36] <Lara_> yes, 3hs of my life lost since I updated
[16:36] <cfhowlett> Lara_, yes in the previously sent wiki: eolupgrade.  it really helps to read the resources people send you
[16:36] <Lara_> oh, missed it
[16:37] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Lara_
[16:37] <Lara_> im reading now
[16:37] <fellayaboy> lara view the pm
[16:37] <fcanela> how did you burnt it, Lara_ ?
[16:37] <daftykins> thevaliantx: ok you enjoy that then. perhaps when you come back you can realise that this is an ubuntu support channel :)
[16:37] <fellayaboy> Lara_, i would go here and perform the commands at the bottom
[16:37] <fellayaboy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/491018/unity-on-14-10-desktop-issue-after-dist-upgrade
[16:37] <Lara_> I did it fewtimes before, is well done
[16:37] <Lara_> but this laptop is doomed :P
[16:37] <fcanela> that's not what I asked, but OK :)
[16:37] <xela2244> hi, libreoffice is not working, when i open writer i get loged out.
[16:38] <daftykins> Lara_: why can't you boot from USB or DVD?
[16:38] <thevaliantx> daftykins, what exactly are you doing to "support" anyone here?  Serious question here.  No harm, no foul.  I've yet to see you offer anything positive in the time I've been here today.  You don't have to answer.
[16:38] <Knight80> Do you recommend me not to install ppa's at all, then?
[16:38] <daftykins> thevaliantx: no i just got home, is that a problem?
[16:38] <xela2244> lara are you using windows?
[16:38] <Knight80> I mean, is it risky?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> lol xela2244
[16:38] <thevaliantx> daftykins, we're talking about the time that we're both here.  i don't care about your personal life.
[16:39] <cfhowlett> Knight80, yes it's risky.  "unsupported" is unsupported for a reason.
[16:39] <Lara_> daftykins: Idonbt know. Old pc
[16:39] <auronandace> thevaliantx: stop trying to pick an argument, you want support then go to the appropriate channel
[16:39] <Lara_> fellayaboy: Ok
[16:39] <daftykins> thevaliantx: i've supported people in here for years and solved plenty of queries, now take yours to the relevant channel as suggested and stop trying to stir drama please :)
[16:39] <fellayaboy> Lara_, let me know if all those commands worked fo ryou
[16:39] <Lara_> cfhowlett: dont follow u
[16:39] <Knight80> Not even ppa's made for the same Ubuntu version?
[16:40] <OerHeks> Lara_, you have been given the EOL page, why do you switch to an other solution?
[16:40] <cfhowlett> Lara_, what statement did I confuse?
[16:40] <Lara_> fellayaboy: Nope
[16:40] <fcanela> Knight80, another spaniard here
[16:41] <thevaliantx> auronandace, it's called defending yourself.  Free speech, pal.  Nothing nasty was exchanged.   I'll put you on ignore next.
[16:41] <fellayaboy> you tried all of them? event he ones at the bottom where you reinstall?
[16:41] <fcanela> I install ppa from time to time, but I prefer repositories version if there is not a good reason to stick to ppa
[16:41] <cfhowlett> Knight80, ppa's are *unsupported*.   now, YOU may decide to risk your system from a "trusted" ppa, but UBUNTU doesn't trust those ppas.  so you break it, you buy it.  Just my $0.02.  YMMV
[16:41] <fcanela> i.e: you need a updated version of the software or something like this
[16:41] <fcanela> as cfhowlett says, you're risking your pc to the maintainer truthworthy
[16:41] <Knight80> fcanela How do you know?
[16:41] <Lara_> cfhowlett: eolupgrade
[16:42] <fcanela> maybe he decides to change the binary with a backdoor and you are doomed
[16:42] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lara                      READ THIS WIKI!!!!
[16:42] <tgm4883> cfhowlett: not trying to nitpick, but Ubuntu doesn't support those PPA's. It does trust them though (in the sense of signing keys and all that)
[16:42] <xela2244> does anyone know why libreoffice writer won't open, i'm using kubuntu 15.04
[16:42] <cfhowlett> tgm4883, noted.
[16:42] <Knight80> fcanela are you spanish?
[16:42] <fcanela> yes, I am, mate
[16:42] <fcanela> hope my answer was useful for you
[16:43] <Knight80> fcanela it was :)
[16:43] <PCatinean> how does one close all ports on a ubuntu server except for ssh/http/http and ftp?
[16:43] <Knight80> fcanela where in spain?
[16:43] <daftykins> !ufw | PCatinean
[16:43] <PCatinean> ufw, wasn't it called something different?
[16:43] <Lara_> ubottu: im reading*
[16:43] <PCatinean> like i...something
[16:43] <cfhowlett> fcanela, Knight80       take the offtopic dicussion to pm or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[16:43] <fcanela> I think it's offtopic here
[16:44] <Knight80> cfhowlett Sorry
[16:44] <cfhowlett> thank you.
[16:44] <daftykins> PCatinean: ufw uses iptables.
[16:44] <PCatinean> iptables, yes I wanted to say that but it sounded silly :D
[16:44] <daftykins> a clue is in the actual message *cough*
[16:46]  * Lara_ slaps fcanela around a bit with a large fishbot
[16:48] <krapper> 15.04 Server Install.. Software RAID-1 fails at GRUB boot loader... console shows grub-installer failed with error code 1... lot of Google info but not much in way of solution.. any ideas?
[16:48] <Lara_> ubottu:
[16:48] <Lara_> with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal.
[16:48] <Lara_> dont get it.
[16:49] <auronandace> Lara_: each release has a code name
[16:49] <finetundra_> hey folks, if I were to run xinit in a different tty, would that cause issues with an existing session?
[16:49] <auronandace> !14.10
[16:49] <cfhowlett> Lara_, trusty is the codename for 14.04
[16:49] <Lara_> ah
[16:49] <Lara_> but how you know it?
[16:49] <Lara_> cfhowlett:
[16:50] <cfhowlett> !14.04 | Lara_
[16:50] <BarryD9545> I'm on 15.04, why do my Computer and Terminal icons vanish every restart?
[16:50] <Lara_> so if i want to update to v.15
[16:51] <PCatinean> A simple example of allowing port 22 and denying everything else would be
[16:51] <PCatinean> sudo ufw enable sudo ufw allow 22 sudo ufw deny all?
[16:51] <PCatinean> though that last one I did not see in the documentation
[16:52] <Lara_> what is the codename for Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet)
[16:52] <fcanela> 15.05 it's not LTS
[16:52] <fcanela> go for 14.04 until 16.04 is here
[16:52] <fcanela> (imho)
[16:53]  * cfhowlett ONLY installs LTS
[16:53] <Lara_> Ok
[16:53] <Lara_> ty fcanela
[16:53] <fcanela> you're welcome
[16:53] <Lara_> trying now
[16:53] <xela2244> hi, libreoffice crashes on kubuntu 15.04, any solutions?
[16:54] <fcanela> xela2244, give more information about the crash so we can have a clue about what's happening
[16:54] <fcanela> logs? error?
[16:54] <xela2244> ok
[16:54] <wileee> xela2244, run libreoffice in a terminal and look for errors
[16:55] <OerHeks> xela2244, you might want to try to remove the libreoffice config > ~/.config/libreoffice  < and start again
[16:55] <skinux> Where is the best tutorial for creating a deb package for either a set of php scripts (which together form a software) or a PHP Archive File?
[16:55] <xela2244> i have done that but is not working
[16:55] <Knight80> I'm removing repos with Ubuntu's Software Centre but they still appear in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ...
[16:55] <OerHeks> !build | skinux
[16:56] <skinux> I'd also like ot know how to create a deb package for properly installing software which comes as ZIP archives, such as FoxIt Reader.
[16:56] <Pici> skinux: See http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/
[16:56] <skinux> No, not compiling from source...php scripts don't get compiled.
[16:57] <fcanela> I usually remove them from sources.list directly, I do not know if there is a better practice nowadays
[16:57] <Knight80> fcanela You mean /etc/apt/sources.list?
[16:58] <fcanela> that was in my old debian, now it's into the directory you said
[17:00] <BarryD9545> Why can't I mice Application=link icons in 15.04?
[17:00] <daftykins> fcanela: PPAs can be added and removed via CLI commands if that's what you mean?
[17:00] <daftykins> there's also ppa-purge
[17:00] <BarryD9545> no, just moved to a different sopt om the desktop.
[17:00] <Papa2five> Help
[17:00] <daftykins> Papa2five: what's wrong?
[17:01] <Papa2five> Just trying to get documentation about Orc
[17:01] <BarryD9545> When I try to drag an Application=Link icon to a different spot on the desktop, it either copies it or gives an error
[17:01] <Papa2five> I mean Orc
[17:02] <BarryD9545> still opens web page
[17:02] <Papa2five> Ilc
[17:02] <wileee> BarryD9545, details and context are important.
[17:02] <Papa2five> Bad keyboard IRC
[17:02] <Lara_> Hi again. Im stuck. In my file sources.list i have a lot of url's -> deb http://...
[17:03] <fcanela> daftykins, just wanted to know if there is a better way for him, maybe as you said
[17:03] <daftykins> Papa2five: Orc IRC? is that a client?
[17:03] <EriC^^> Lara_: pastebin sources.list
[17:03] <Lara_> Does i have to delete the old ones or add
[17:03] <BarryD9545> not my keyboard
[17:03] <fcanela> i'm comfortable editing the file directly, so for me it's ok that way
[17:03] <fcanela> Lara_, I suggest you to backup and replace
[17:03] <Papa2five> No - it's been years since I.  Did this and was looking for automated help
[17:04] <daftykins> automated? i don't believe we've upgraded to AI support yet
[17:04] <Lara_> fcanela: ok, nice way
[17:04] <fcanela> Lara_, how is your installation going?
[17:04] <Lara_> EriC^^: cant pastebin, im not in the same computer
[17:04] <Lara_> rly bad
[17:04] <Lara_> im giving up i think fcanela
[17:04] <fcanela> Lara_, can you install pastebinit apt package?
[17:04] <EriC^^> Lara_: you can comment out the old ones by adding a # at the start of the lines, and use the ones in the eolupgrade site with your ubuntu's codename though
[17:05] <Lara_> EriC^^: hmmm
[17:05] <fcanela> if you pipe anything to pastebinit, it'll paste in pastebin.com for you
[17:05] <Knight80> fcanela The thing is /etc/apt/sources.list shows up different repos than /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:05] <Knight80> fcanela shows, sorry
[17:06] <Papa2five> Ok.  Oh I see in the header IRC Info. I'll try that. Thanks dafty
[17:06] <anony_user> How can I move the (X - o) buttons to the right side of windows? I can't seem to find it...
[17:07] <guest-lUj11U> I need help.  From now on, I have to log in instead of a full startup. I dont have access to my admin account: password refused. I know my master password. how can I fix it?
[17:07] <cfhowlett> "master" password?
[17:07] <daftykins> guest-lUj11U: what does "log in instead of a full startup" mean?
[17:07] <guest-lUj11U> yes
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> or how would you call it?
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> full startup is for me: getting to my desktop by switching pc on
[17:08] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, how many users do you have? (root, ...?)
[17:08] <guest-lUj11U> i need only root
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> @ anoy_user: one user
[17:09] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, and you can't login. You 're on Guest now?
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> i was able to log in as guest
[17:09] <guest-lUj11U> yes
[17:10] <guest-lUj11U> i tried to execute a command to go to desktop, but it closed my programs i guess. after a restart, I had the screen that was asking for password.
[17:11] <EriC^^> what command?
[17:11] <anony_user> guest-lUj11U, can you try something like "sudo nano..."? and enter the password
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> I forgot that command, but it was a short one
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> i used "sudo"
[17:11] <EriC^^> sudo startx?
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> "sudo xstart"
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> or "sudo startx"
[17:11] <EriC^^> don't use sudo with startx
[17:11] <guest-lUj11U> :s
[17:11] <EriC^^> matter of fact, dont use startx with ubuntu unless you know what you're doing
[17:12] <guest-lUj11U> startx sucks
[17:12] <krapper> RAID-1 on 15.04 Server fails at grub-installer.. any ideas?
[17:12] <guest-lUj11U> how can I fix to get again my admin?
[17:12] <EriC^^> guest-lUj11U: press ctrl+alt+f1, login as your user, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[17:12] <daftykins> krapper: install it manually from a live session i guess, you'll need desktop though
[17:12] <hendryirvin> hi
[17:13] <hendryirvin> hello?
[17:13] <daftykins> yes?
[17:14] <hendryirvin> well, im new here, but i need help
[17:14] <daftykins> hendryirvin: ask away on one line with detail
[17:14] <cfhowlett> !ask | hendryirvin
[17:15] <hendryirvin> ok, can i upload image to imgur and paste it here, the error message is quite long
[17:15] <guest-o8osWh> hallo. its me again, from the xstart problem. I did ctrl+alt+F1
[17:16] <vooze> Is it somehow possible to enlarge icons in nautilus? :)
[17:16] <guest-o8osWh> but i forgot your advice after that
[17:16] <EriC^^> vooze: ctrl+ mouse wheel
[17:16] <daftykins> guest-o8osWh: you might want to write it down if you only have one computer
[17:17] <vooze> EriC^^, great, can I now make it remember that zoom? :)
[17:17] <EriC^^> guest-o8osWh: you can get back to the desktop wih alt+f7
[17:17] <hendryirvin> ill be back
[17:17] <EriC^^> vooze: preferences > zoom level
[17:18] <EriC^^> guest-lUj11U: after you login with your user, type sudo chown <your user>: ~/.Xauthority
[17:18] <anony_user> I was searching on how to move the "Window controls" on the right side. - Downloaded ''Unity Tweak Tool'' from Soft. Center.
[17:19] <EriC^^> anony_user: you can't unless you modify unity's code or something
[17:19] <vooze> EriC^^, ah great, I see now :D sorry for the stupid question.
[17:19] <anony_user> guest-o8osWh, write it down xD
[17:19] <anony_user> vooze, there are no stupid questions :)
[17:19] <guest-o8osWh> i wrote it down. c ye later!
[17:19] <guest-o8osWh> thx.
[17:19] <anony_user> guest-o8osWh, inform us later
[17:20] <hendryirvin> ok, so here's the problem, my xstart wont run when i type it in terminal and it appear like this X.Org X Server 1.11.3 Release Date: 2011-12-16 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.42-76-generic i686 Ubuntu Current Operating System: Linux server.excharudi.web.id 2.6.32-042stab108.2 #1 SMP Tue May 12 18:07:50 MSK 2015 i686 Kernel command line: quiet Build Date: 12 February 2015  02:51:26PM xorg-serve
[17:20] <hendryirvin> Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot find a free VT: Invalid argument   Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support  	 at http://wiki.x.org  for help.  Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.   ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file. xinit: giving up xinit: unable to connect to X server: No such file or directory xinit: server error
[17:20] <daftykins> dont paste text here!
[17:20] <EriC^^> hendryirvin: why are you using startx?
[17:21] <hendryirvin> ohh, sorry, i dont know the rules
[17:21] <hendryirvin> im on vps ubuntu i want to run a game server
[17:21] <Lara_> Thanks YOU guys, im going home. Trying from home.See you now
[17:21] <hendryirvin> and it requires startx
[17:21] <EriC^^> it requires a gui? do you have a de installed?
[17:22] <hendryirvin> yeah, i got the GUI installed with tightvnc, but the vps dont have display drivers
[17:23] <EriC^^> ok, no idea
[17:23] <hendryirvin> some source said i can use kvm
[17:24] <daftykins> hendryirvin: game servers don't need a GUI
[17:24] <daftykins> hendryirvin: trying to put one on a VPS is a mistake
[17:25] <hendryirvin> so, any solutions with it? im kinda frustrated
[17:25] <hendryirvin> the server use .bat files, but it appears an error display
[17:26] <EriC^^> and the rabbit hole gets deeper
[17:26] <hendryirvin> so i tried to run it with .sh but still no clue
[17:26] <daftykins> no .bat files are Windows
[17:26] <hendryirvin> yeah, i know, so i tried with .sh
[17:26] <daftykins> dare i guess... are you trying to run minecraft?
[17:26] <hendryirvin> nope, unturned
[17:27] <ioria> hendryirvin, you mean something like this ? https://panel.cinfu.com/knowledgebase/6/GUI-Desktop-XWindows-Gnome-installation-on-Linux-VPS-Server-with-Ubuntu-OS.html
[17:27] <daftykins> doing that is a mistake :)
[17:28] <hendryirvin> yeah, i get that GUI working, im online with it right now xD
[17:28] <hendryirvin> the ubuntu desktop
[17:29] <ioria> hendryirvin, you add :1 to tightvnc ?
[17:29] <hendryirvin> yeah
[17:29] <barefoot_> hii
[17:29] <ioria> hendryirvin, ok.... but it's still not a good idea :þ
[17:29] <hendryirvin> its already done thou, im online with the vps right now through tightvnc
[17:29] <guest-veh2W1> hallo. I still have the startx problem.
[17:29] <barefoot_> anyone there
[17:30] <hendryirvin> i know, i just tried to run my friend server
[17:30] <daftykins> guest-veh2W1: did you run the command yet?
[17:30] <ioria> hendryirvin, oky
[17:30] <guest-veh2W1> @daftykins: yes
[17:30] <daftykins> guest-veh2W1: and then rebooted after?
[17:30] <guest-veh2W1> @daftykins: but I still miss authority. maybe a space mistype?
[17:31] <guest-veh2W1> i rebooted after
[17:31] <daftykins> you still what?
[17:31] <hendryirvin> well, any solution with my problem?
[17:31] <guest-veh2W1> I cant access my root account, although i'm shore about password
[17:32] <EriC^^> guest-veh2W1: access your root account?
[17:32] <guest-veh2W1> I can only access my root account from ungraphic mode.
[17:33] <daftykins> hendryirvin: look up info on that game, write a proper script and all should be well. however you won't have much RAM left to run the game running X on a VPS :P
[17:33] <guest-veh2W1> maybe I should know the code to launch graphic mode from command line
[17:33] <EriC^^> guest-veh2W1: why are you launching gui as the root user anyways?
[17:34] <hendryirvin> daftykins: i think so,, but my friend wont understand, need a game server thou
[17:34] <themagma> Hi there, linux is great, but is there any way  to have something like this on linux? https://ontopreplica.codeplex.com/ (it shows any portion of any software, where i can set to click forwarding, or click-trhough, and transparency, etc...)
[17:34] <hendryirvin> its a common vps
[17:34] <guest-veh2W1> I dont understand your question. I want to access my graphic root user again.
[17:34] <hendryirvin> how much storage space that needed to run x?
[17:35] <daftykins> hendryirvin: "common" doesn't mean a thing. and i don't see why your friend needs to understand, you're the one that is trying to get it running :)
[17:35] <hendryirvin> yeah, its been 5 days now, and i still dont get it running
[17:35] <hendryirvin> daftykins: can you help me out?
[17:36] <daftykins> with what
[17:36] <hendryirvin> teamviewer
[17:37] <hendryirvin> i really had no idea right now xD
[17:38] <daftykins> hendryirvin: why on earth are you trying to use teamviewer now when it's already accessed remotely?
[17:39] <hendryirvin> daftykins: i dont know about that
[17:39] <hendryirvin> how?
[17:39] <daftykins> but you said you're using tightvnc?
[17:40] <hendryirvin> yes
[17:40] <hendryirvin> tightvnc for the vps
[17:40] <hendryirvin> im on windows running tightvnc for remoting the vps
[17:40] <daftykins> right...
[17:41] <guest-qjr2ce> Hallo. Its me again. I still have startx problem.
[17:41] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: what do you mean by graphical root? your normal account or the root account?
[17:41] <guest-qjr2ce> @EriC: both. they are the same
[17:42] <EriC^^> you mean the account you can use sudo with?
[17:42] <EriC^^> cause there's an actual "root" user
[17:42] <hendryirvin> daftykins: u remote me with teamviewer to configure the remoted vps
[17:42] <daftykins> hendryirvin: sorry you're about as clear as a foggy day right now :(
[17:42] <hendryirvin> sounds like yo dawg xD
[17:42] <guest-qjr2ce> @Eric: yes
[17:42] <daftykins> hendryirvin: oh i see, no i'm not doing that.
[17:43] <hendryirvin> well, i really had no idea to run it now -_-
[17:43] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: ok, press ctrl+alt+f1, login and then type ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[17:43] <EriC^^> you should see your username instead of root
[17:43] <guest-qjr2ce> @EriC: I can access my sudo account with ctrl+alt+F1. but it stays then in command mode.
[17:43] <EriC^^> press alt+f7 to get back here
[17:44] <EriC^^> guest-qjr2ce: ok, type sudo service lightdm restart
[17:44] <guest-qjr2ce> @Eric: I'll try that
[17:44] <EriC^^> first make sure .Xauthority is right
[17:44] <daftykins> hendryirvin: you'll have to use that fine invention the 'search engine' and find a script that works :)
[17:44] <hendryirvin> daftykins: 3 days now, on search engine trying to figure it out, still no clue
[17:45] <guest-qjr2ce> ...checking my notes...
[17:45] <daftykins> ah well. sorry i don't really like helping with games, don't consider it a real task :)
[17:45] <hendryirvin> its not the game, the startx
[17:46] <anony_user> Anyone experienced with "Unity Tweak Tool" ?
[17:46] <daftykins> yeah startx doesn't belong on a VPS
[17:47] <ninthDimension_> Hello, I'm about to "steamroll" over my Ubuntu install so that I can install Win7, and THEN get Ubuntu back (dual boot).But before I did, I wanted to ask someone what each partition is for, because there are more than I expected and I don't want to delete the wrong one!
[17:48] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: what are you typing from right now?
[17:48] <ninthDimension_> someone else's MBP
[17:48] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit" would be handy
[17:48] <daftykins> likely you have sda1 for /, sda5 is the extended partition - then sda6 is your swap
[17:49] <ninthDimension_> I have the following - ... OK i;ll try the pastebin...
[17:50] <anony_user> I installed "Unity tweak tool" in order to move the 'window controls' on the right side* but it doesn't work... Anyone experienced this problem? (14.04.3)
[17:51] <soman> Hi all. I have a distro with deb-based package manager and I broke libc6 packet when tried to install a package downloaded from debian website. How can I replace that package? I installed 'libc6-debu' package which provides libc6 but libc6 version isn't changed.
[17:51] <daftykins> soman: only ubuntu is supported here, if you have some other you need to find their support.
[17:52] <soman> daftykins: the same problem will be 1 to 1 in ubuntu so the only one solution exist (if any)
[17:52] <daftykins> soman: we don't know that for sure, what if they use other package names? :)
[17:52] <daftykins> anony_user: you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left/451330#451330 ?
[17:52] <ioria> !info libc6
[17:53] <ninthDimension_> OK here's the pastebin link for my drive partitions: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12329847
[17:53] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ah EFI install, backup your data then just delete everything.
[17:55] <soman> daftykins: they could use other names :) but the question is: how can I replace back my package if I have a CD with package? dpkg -i 'pack' sucesfully install the package but libc6 version still has the same as package from debian which is broke my original one.
[17:56] <ninthDimension_> daftykins_ OK. I was surprised to see a large 462GB partition, called "file system" and then a 3.2GB partition called "OS" (These were the labels shown in the Win7 installation - it freaked me out so I cancelled it)
[17:57] <fRit_^> hello, is anyone who is good in apparmor?
[17:57] <ninthDimension_> There was "ESP" (524MB), "DIAGS" (42MB), "OS" (3.2GB), "File System" (462GB), "Swap" (34GB) and a little free space.
[17:57] <thopiekar> Hi, is here someone from the Xorg SWAT? I just found a packaging problem with the nvidia-* drivers. I wanted to install the opencl drivers, but installing it it removes all opencl applications. The nvidia opencl packages say they provide "libopencl1", but currently the generic opencl package is called "ocl-icd-libopencl1" except "libopencl1". I think adding "ocl-icd-libopencl1" to the provides will quickly fix that
[17:57] <thopiekar>  problem :)
[17:57] <daftykins> soman: sorry but i don't understand you
[17:58] <ninthDimension_> I didn't know which one to choose to delete in the Windows installer.
[17:58] <daftykins> thopiekar: SWAT is a PPA - this is an official channel so that is not supported here. you must contact them (but i'd recommend not using those graphics driver PPAs at all)
[17:58] <anony_user> "As I wrote in technical details, Canonical hardcoded buttons position in their Unity plugin." - Whaaaaaat? wow
[17:59] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: you should boot your ubuntu install media and delete every single one with gparted
[17:59] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: bear in mind though, windows 7 needs modifications to install in EFI mode - so you're going to need to install ubuntu as legacy if you install Win7 as legacy.
[17:59] <daftykins> !efi | ninthDimension_ see here for more information
[18:00] <thopiekar> daftykins: The problem is also available in Ubuntu's repositories. I thought the Xorg SWAT is the team working on the Xorg packages at Canonical//Ubuntu
[18:00] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: but other people have advised me to use the Win7 installer to overwrite everything, and create a partition to later use for Ubuntu. Then after Win7 is finished installing, go about installing Ubuntu. Not using GParted,
[18:00] <ash_work> so, just as a note, I installed qt4-qtconfig which I thought would enable bold text on skype... like, sending a message *with bold text*
[18:00] <ash_work> but all it did was make everything bold
[18:01] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: that's terrible advice, you'd leave empty space - but you would not make partitions for ubuntu from windows
[18:01] <guest-SdIv75> @EriC: I tried your advice, but the loging of my sudo account cancels immediately after confirming pw.   :(
[18:01] <ash_work> I uninstalled qt4-qtconfig and everything remained bold
[18:01] <ash_work> shucks
[18:01] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: really this task is very simple, do you still have ubuntu booted?
[18:01] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: did you try ls -l ~/.Xauthority ?
[18:02] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: I did. it connects.
[18:02] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: yes I do, I didn't overwrite anything. People said it's simpler to begin with Win7 and then install Ubuntu, than it is to begin with Ubuntu and install Win7.
[18:03] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yeah Windows first is preferable. do you have anything you need from ubuntu backed up already? and you've got a win7 DVD / flash drive to hand?
[18:03] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: but I cant login in the GUI with my sudo account. It cancels immediately. A small window appears and it is very hard to read.
[18:03] <KCmetro> any recommendations for arp poisoning detection apps? (find arp spoofing)
[18:04] <KCmetro> IP&ARP, that is
[18:04] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: at that window, one button is named Cancel and the other is named.
[18:04] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: Yeah I wanted to do it the simplest way possible, because I have no experience of Ubuntu. I do have a bootable Win7 mem stick (I made with YUMI), a bootable Ubuntu mem stick (I made in the "Startup disk creator" from ISO). And I don't have anything to back up from Ubuntu since the computer is new.
[18:05] <curiousx> KCmetro: http://autoscan-network.com/download/linux/
[18:05] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: I think I have to re-install all.   :(
[18:05] <anony_user> join #ld4all
[18:05] <anony_user> woops
[18:05] <guest-SdIv75> my linux is fucked up.
[18:06] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: so you don't need any data from it presumably?
[18:06] <daftykins> oh my bad, misread
[18:06] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: try making another account and see if it works
[18:06] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: when you typed ls -l ~/.Xauthority did it say your username or root?
[18:06] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: an other guest account?
[18:06] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ok so open a terminal and run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=10"
[18:07] <guest-SdIv75> @Eric: It mentions my username within a path.
[18:07] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: what does that do? It's a copy command right?
[18:07] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: now reboot and you'll find the disk is totally blank, so you can boot windows 7 media and install
[18:07] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: nope zero writing
[18:07] <KCmetro> curiousx: thank you
[18:07] <Chuck_Norris> KCmetro: np
[18:07] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: type sudo adduser <user> to create a new account and test it
[18:08] <baja> hi guys i am running command traceroute google.com and i am only getting 40 hops and no ipaddress for routers. what command can get me all routers ip for all 40 hops?
[18:08] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: does it say something like -rw------- 1 <your user> <your user> 46 Sep  9 11:44 .Xauthority ?
[18:08] <daftykins> baja: what are you trying to achieve? your request seems particularly pointless
[18:08] <daftykins> baja: also, what makes this an ubuntu support question? :)
[18:09] <baja> im trying to get all ip addresses of all routers from mine to google.com
[18:09] <JOW> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[18:09] <JOW> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:09] <JOW> ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[18:09] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: or -rw------ ... root root .... ?
[18:09] <JOW> TJ- ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[18:10] <daftykins> JOW: no more spamming thanks
[18:10] <daftykins> !backbox | backbox
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins sorry
[18:10] <backbox> hi
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins just wanted to make my point clear
[18:10] <baja> i am trying to get all ip address from my router to google.com
[18:10] <daftykins> JOW: really? i don't see a point being made.
[18:10] <JOW> daftykins the point that I was desperate
[18:11] <KCmetro> checking out ettercap, what are the differences here? --> -common -graphical
[18:11] <baja> with command traceroute
[18:11] <daftykins> baja: why?
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused
[18:11] <KCmetro> does the -common include graphical & text?
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins help?
[18:11] <daftykins> JOW: yeah repeating the same text doesn't offer anymore of an explanation. i'm ignoring you now.
[18:11] <JOW> TJ- !!!
[18:11] <baja> its an exercise im trying to achieve whether its possible like written online on website
[18:11] <JOW> daftykins but what explanation can I offer?
[18:12] <JOW> daftykins it's just like that, not sshing and I need to ssh
[18:12] <daftykins> baja: what website? this isn't an ubuntu query, ask ##networking :)
[18:12] <Senji> how long would it take to burst out 2^48 udp packages of 102 bytes each
[18:12] <daftykins> *datagrams
[18:12] <daftykins> Senji: also off topic :)
[18:12] <baja> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-iptrace-command-in-bash/
[18:12] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: is that equivalent to what is proposed in this help article from Microsoft about removing Linux: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/247804
[18:13] <KCmetro> nevermind, going with -common
[18:13] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: I know the problem now. After logging in, I have a small popup with  buttons: "Cancel" and "Report problem". My sudo account cant log in any more in GUI.
[18:13] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: just do it how i suggested.
[18:13] <Olotila> how do I keep Modified attribute when copying pictures from camera? From desktop?
[18:13] <Olotila> Gnome
[18:13] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: that info is out of date
[18:14] <baja> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/what-is-iptrace-command-in-bash/
[18:14] <Olotila> or Can I change the original Date back?
[18:14] <JOW> Hey everyone I'm trying to ssh and I'm getting the port 22: Connection refused error message...
[18:14] <EriC^^> guest-SdIv75: try making another account and see if it works, login from ctrl+alt+f1 and type sudo adduser <user>
[18:14] <JOW> can anyone help with that?
[18:14] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: ^
[18:15] <daftykins> Olotila: the date taken is inside metadata, the file system date is irrelevant
[18:15] <genii> JOW: The machine at  <IP_ADDRESS>  is running Ubuntu and has openssh-server package installed and enabled?
[18:15] <JOW> I've entered there with ssh many times genii
[18:16] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: d'oh you're right, they're talking about floppy disks.  Is the Ubuntu OS held in "OS", separate from "file system"?
[18:16] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: could this help: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo ?
[18:16] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ugh. please just run the command i shared, i don't see what you're trying to find out
[18:17] <genii> JOW: It makes it difficult to assist when you answer questions with non-sequiturs
[18:17] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: your ubuntu installation was done as EFI, this means multiple extra partitions as per the EFI specification were created - Windows 7 will not use these, so the disk should be wiped
[18:17] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: Thanks. I honestly appreciate your help - I just like to understand what I'm doing a little better, when it comes to overwriting/deleting partitions etc. That's very helpful though.
[18:17] <vooze> I'm trying to change cursor size of unity (ubuntu 15.04) and follow a guide to use dconf in org.gnome.desktop.interface.cursor-size from 30 to 38, but after each reboot or log out its changed back to 30. :/
[18:17] <JOW> sorry genii
[18:18] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: no, use ctrl+alt+f1
[18:18] <JOW> I'll do better next time genii
[18:18] <Olotila> daftykins, I just want to organize the pictures monthly ...
[18:18] <guest-pvZN4o> @Eric: but I'm still figuring out how to repair
[18:18] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: login, type sudo adduser testuser, then press alt+f7 and try to login to that new account
[18:19] <guest-pvZN4o> i was able to log in in new account.
[18:19] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: try adding the new user, if it works it means it's just a config issue in your user's home dir, then you can try renaming some dirs to see which one is causing the error
[18:20] <sharpy35> hey guys, sorry but can you please help me out with this topic? http://askubuntu.com/questions/672392/ubuntu-with-pcie-card i am desperatly trying to get this to work but always failing
[18:20] <EriC^^> guest-pvZN4o: ok, type mv ~/.compiz ~/.compiz.old , and mv ~/.config/compiz-1 ~/.config/compiz-1.old
[18:20] <guest-pvZN4o> @EriC: i expect a config issue in user's home dir
[18:20] <hoijui> i got a used thinkpad x200 with the 82567LM Gigabit ethernet chipset, and when i boot ubuntu 15.04, i get no eth0
[18:20] <hoijui> i suspect a hardware failure, but how could i be sure of that?
[18:21] <daftykins> Olotila: why not open the view on the camera, make the folders and copy/move over just the ones for each month then?
[18:21] <TJ-> JOW "connection refused" means there is no SSH server on that IP address. My guess is your NUC has been given a different IP address and you're trying to connect to the wrong IP address.
[18:22] <genii> JOW: Let's assume then the machine at  <IP_ADDRESS>  is properly set up. Is the other machine you are trying to ssh in from on the same network as that one, or is it out on the internet some other place?
[18:22] <JOW> same network genii
[18:23] <JOW> same university genii
[18:23] <genii> TJ-: Seeing as the range he's trying to reach is one of the reserved ranges, I wanted to see if he's trying to reach it from outside first ;)
[18:23] <ioria> hoijui, check ifconfig   ,  sudo lshw -c Network , try sudo ifp eth0
[18:23] <ioria> *ifup
[18:24] <TJ-> genii: This has been a long-running issue. JOW is on a uni campus, he has an Intel NUC that gets a DHCP lease, and the IP address keeps changing. He has the last known IP saved on his PC and uses that to connect to the NUC. When the DHCP lease changes he loses connectivity. We've recommended several times now either to get the IT Admin to allocate a static lease, OR use a Dynamic DNS service
[18:25] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: OK did what you suggested in terminal and rebooting...
[18:25] <JOW> TJ- I'll do that but I think it stoped changing!! =)
[18:25] <genii> JOW: If you do: telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 22      ...does it say something like SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.6.1p1 Ubuntu-8    ( or anything else in fact)  or does it just disconnect?
[18:25] <JOW> TJ- I configured manually and I think it stopped changing now
[18:25] <genii> TJ-: Ah, I see.
[18:25] <hoijui> ioria, ifconfig shows only loopback and wlan0, no eth0
[18:25] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: hooray! you're a life saver, now it's all "unallocated space"
[18:25] <TJ-> JOW: "connection refused" means no service is listening, so if you can 'ping' the NUC, then you've got either a firewall blocking it, or the sshd is not running
[18:25] <ioria> hoijui, sudo lshw -c Network
[18:25] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: ah i wouldn't go that far :P
[18:25] <hoijui> ioria, sudo lshw -c Network shows "*-network UNCLAIMED"
[18:26] <Olotila> daftykins, I do not want the date to be false after organizing
[18:26] <hoijui> for the ethernet controller
[18:26] <JOW> cannot ping TK-
[18:26] <JOW> TJ-
[18:26] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: so now Win7 is installing. Once that is done, what will I need to do to install ubuntu? I have that stick I made from the ubuntu ISO.
[18:26] <genii> JOW: You should open a support ticket with whoever is supposed to be administering the machine you are trying to reach, it should have a static IP or else an internal name which can be found by dns
[18:26] <TJ-> JOW: right... its IP address has changed
[18:26] <ioria> hoijui, can you paste that and lspci -nn ?
[18:26] <JOW> genii you mean do that on intel NUC right?
[18:27] <cx405> Hello, sorry, Debian user here. Does current ubuntu have "console-setup" and /etc/default/locale. Nobody has an idea at #debian, perhaps someone can help me? This is a question about LANG in that file.
[18:27] <hoijui> ioria, ok, but will take a min or two, as i have to transfer it by usb stick....
[18:27] <blo_> @EriC: files not found.  :s. Im a noob.
[18:27] <JOW> TJ- interesting because I have ifconfig telling me the IP
[18:27] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: you'll need to work out how to boot it in legacy mode, it depends on your computer type - usually there's a keypress after power on to get a one-time boot menu - often devices are listed twice, once for EFI and once for legacy - my link earlier should've shown the difference
[18:27] <pbx> cx405, yes on the second question - http://dpaste.com/2HKVRWJ
[18:28] <EriC^^> blo_: ok, try to login to your
[18:28] <EriC^^> 1sec
[18:28] <genii> TJ-: Yes, he should apply to have the machine be given the same IP, I agree
[18:28] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: I'm OK with that, it's F2 and then twiddle some settings. Is the goal to be able to boot from mem stick?
[18:28] <JOW> genii I got pretty much what you said
[18:28] <blo_> @EriC: thats still corrupt.
[18:29] <blo_> @EriC: I'm that guest one. I made "bl" account.
[18:29] <EriC^^> blo_: try to login to your old account using ctrl+alt+f1, to get a command line, then type mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[18:29] <blo_> @EriC: I'm that guest one. I made "blo" account.
[18:29] <pbx> cx405, and yes on the first - http://dpaste.com/2Z8F6Z7
[18:29] <cx405> pbx: thanks. The question is this. The /etc/default/locale is parsed by console-setup, which is a script. The value of /etc/default/locale is changed by it. HOWEVER, if I define a variable directly in console-setup (TESTVAR="yay"; export TESTVAR), then this variable does not survive - echo $TESTVAR shows nothing.
[18:29] <JOW> genii but then it didn't bring to prompt again and when I typed enter it gave me a message "protocol mismatch. connection closed by foreign host"
[18:29] <lucidguy> I would be very grateful if someone can assist with this issue..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330126/
[18:29] <pbx> cx405, i have no console-setup on $PATH
[18:30] <amine> hello
[18:30] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yes but as legacy, not EFI - also, if you just clicked next in the 7 installer - you'll need to resize 7 to make some empty space at the end of the disk - you can do this from diskmgmt.msc
[18:30] <amine> where is here guys !!
[18:30] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: i'd also do all the windows updates before bothering to put ubuntu on
[18:30] <daftykins> amine: ubuntu support channel, as per topic.
[18:30] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: shit i forgot to do that
[18:30] <JOW> TJ- but what about the noip site... I was trying that...
[18:30] <cx405> pbx: console-setup is called on boot. I added "echo "We are parsed by $0 as $(id)">>/tmp/locale.log   at the end of /etc/default/locale. I got two entries - kbd, and then console-setup.
[18:31] <cx405> pbx: to rephrase this even simpler. Why does "LANG=xxx" in /etc/default/locale gets parsed; but not "TESTVAR=xxx" in /etc/init.d/console-setup, where console-setup: . /etc/default/locale; export LANG; TESTVAR=xxx; export TESTVAR. ?
[18:31] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: oh right can it be resized after the fact, once Win7 is finished installing?
[18:31] <TJ-> JOW: It depends if you configured the NUC to correctly inform noip when it gets a new IP address.
[18:31] <hoijui> ioria, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845910
[18:32] <JOW> TJ- hehehehe I stopped without finishing I think... I'll try to continue now
[18:32] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: yeah once you reach the desktop
[18:32] <pbx> cx405, don't know i'm afraid. hopefully someone else is more knowledgeable
[18:32] <ninthDimension_> daftykins: phew! i thought i'd fucked it!
[18:32] <cx405> why an environment variable, sourced from some file and exported by some script at boot - gets exported and visible. However environment variable at end of this script - not.
[18:33] <cx405> pbx: thats not a problem, thank you very much for helping so far!
[18:33] <JOW> TJ- there's something wrong... the browser doens't load any site...
[18:33] <JOW> TJ- hehehehe
[18:34] <daftykins> ninthDimension_: language in here please :)
[18:35] <ioria> hoijui, uname -r ?
[18:35] <JOW> TJ- now is pinging... very weird...
[18:35] <hoijui> ioria, i think the e1000e driver should work for my card, but it is loaded, and unused
[18:35] <frenda> Is it possible to stretch file for printing? I mean this way http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/76233 to use more space of the paper
[18:36] <frenda> It's a pdf
[18:36] <hoijui> ioria: 3.19.0-15-generic
[18:36] <ioria> can't believe this
[18:36] <ninthDimension_> sorry i have a foul mouth.
[18:36] <charlesW> Hello everyone
[18:36] <frenda> Hi
[18:36] <cx405> pbx: So under Ubuntu console-setup just defines some values. Funny enough, nothing from these values is exported. Very weird :^/
[18:37] <hoijui> ioria, if the hardware was broken, could this explain this situation? or would rahter eth0 show up, but not work propperly?
[18:38] <ioria> hoijui, it shows up in lspci ... idk
[18:38] <hoijui> mmm
[18:38] <charlesW> Is it possible to access my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS partition from a DOS 6.22 command line?
[18:38] <ioria> hoijui, yes, that chipset got issues... but fixed
[18:38] <hoijui> there is also no eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[18:38] <cx405> charlesW: Depends only on filesystem support under DOS.
[18:38] <tgm4883> charlesW: doubtful
[18:38] <hoijui> mm ok
[18:39] <hoijui> wish i had a windows laying around, so i could check if it works there :D
[18:39] <cx405> charlesW: http://www.askvg.com/how-to-access-linux-partitions-ext2-ext3-from-windows-in-dual-boot-system/
[18:39] <ioria> hoijui,  you can try this https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817 but it's ridicolous
[18:41] <ioria> hoijui,  try to reload the module, and ifdown wlan0.... really idk
[18:41] <charlesW> I used to use DosBox to play my games on, But Some of them don't work right.
[18:41] <hoijui> ioria, ok, will try..
[18:42] <hoijui> how to reload?
[18:42] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo modeprobe
[18:42] <daftykins> charlesW: i'm pretty sure you're not using actual DOS in 2015 :)
[18:43] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo modprobe
[18:44] <charlesW> daftykins: I am using ubuntu 14.04 LTS on one hard drive and DOS 6.22 on a second hard drive.
[18:45] <daftykins> charlesW: not gonna happen.
[18:45] <leeohaddad> test
[18:45] <frenda> Is it possible to stretch file for printing? I mean this way http://uploadkon.ir/fl/dd/76233 to use more space of the paper
[18:46] <charlesW> daftykins: My games run better in the DOS environment.
[18:47] <tgm4883> charlesW: you aren't going to be able to get to your ubuntu partition from dos
[18:47] <hoijui> ioria ... these are only the sources, right? to build them, i woudl have to install buidl tools first.. and as i have no internet connection on the machine, and anyway my connection here is very very slow..
[18:47] <oussama> bonsoir
[18:47] <hoijui> i will try trisquel 7 tomorrow, 64bit version (now have 32bit ubuntu 15.04)
[18:48] <ioria> hoijui,  wifi not working ?
[18:48] <charlesW> tgm: ok...thanks
[18:48] <hoijui> can i not somehow force the e1000e driver to try to use this chipset and present it as eth0?
[18:49] <ioria> hoijui,  you have wireless ... or not ?
[18:50] <daftykins> charlesW: yeah ok, but DOS is not going to read EXT4 and so on
[18:50] <hoijui> ioria, i have wireless, yes, but no wireless network
[18:50] <charlesW> daftykins: that's what I wanted to know. thanks.
[18:50] <hoijui> i can connect at uni tomorrow though
[18:51] <hoijui> reading these old bug reports now that you probably read before..
[18:51] <ioria> hoijui,  i see ... no-wifi router then ?
[18:51] <hoijui> can i check the "ID" of my card, and then check if it is "in the drivers IDs list"?
[18:51] <charlesW> daftykins: Yeah, I used EXT4 to load my Ubuntu.
[18:51] <hoijui> ioria, nope, no wifi router
[18:52] <ioria> hoijui,  Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10f5]
[18:52] <ioria> hoijui,  also these seem to work http://downloadmirror.intel.com/15817/eng/
[18:52] <hoijui> .. this whole thing is the ID, or just the numbers in the end?
[18:53] <ioria> [8086:10f5
[18:53] <charlesW> thanks everyone
[18:53] <AEL-H> sorry, could someone explain what is going on in here? "for thefile in *.orig ; do cp -v $thefile ${thefile%%.orig} ; done"
[18:53] <hoijui> ioria, ahh thanks :-)
[18:54] <ioria> hoijui,  try sudo rmmod -f e1000e    and  sudo modprobe e1000e
[18:54] <hoijui> so earlier versions might now have worked? and as my ubuntu is older then that driver release i might get lucky with that new driver?
[18:56] <EriC^^> AEL-H: if a file is called something.orig the command will be cp -v something.orig something
[18:56] <ioria> hoijui,  it'a fresh install ?
[18:56] <EriC^^> it'll rename files with .orig in them to without .orig
[18:56] <TJ-> hoijui: the e1000e driver is the one for the 82567LM [8086:10f5]
[18:56] <hoijui> ioria, i tried... modprobe takes really long, like 20+s, but no change
[18:57] <hoijui> ioria, yes, fresh install
[18:57] <ioria> TJ-   can you hel him ?
[18:57] <ioria> *p
[18:57] <hoijui> TJ-, thanks.. but it shows as 0 usage in lsmod, and there is no eth0
[18:57] <ioria> TJ-   no eth0...
[18:58] <hoijui> fresh ubuntu 15.04 install
[18:58] <AEL-H> EriC^^: But I do not understand what the '%%' is doing
[18:58] <ioria> TJ-   and no wifi
[18:58] <EriC^^> AEL-H: it's telling bash to expand $thefile without the suffix .orig
[18:59] <ioria> hoijui,  there are eth0-usb adapter  ....
[18:59] <TJ-> hoijui: do "modinfo e1000e | grep '^alias:.*10F5'
[18:59] <hoijui> i just grepped the sources of the driver you linked me too, and it looks that even this version does not have my ID
[18:59] <TJ-> hoijui: You should see "alias:          pci:v00008086d000010F5sv*sd*bc*sc*i*" ... if not, the kernel version is too old to have support, and you'd need a more recent kernel from the HardWare Enablement packages
[19:00] <TJ-> !hwe | hoijui
[19:00] <AEL-H> EriC^^: Do you know what the %% process is called?
[19:00] <TJ-> hoijui: Grrr, that's the rong factoid!
[19:00] <TJ-> !enablement
[19:01] <TJ-> anyone know the factoid trigger for the HWE links?
[19:01] <hoijui> TJ-, it does show this line
[19:01] <EriC^^> AEL-H: parameter expansion, i think
[19:01] <hoijui> sorry, i am a bit slow becuase i have to manually copy commands
[19:02] <EriC^^> AEL-H: type man bash, then type /%% and press enter then press n
[19:02] <TJ-> AEL-H: in bash shell ${parameter%%string} removes all matches of string from the end of the parameter backwards
[19:03] <TJ-> AEL-H: it is the opposite of ${parameter##string} which matches forwards
[19:04] <hoijui> TJ-, if i had faulty hardware, could this cause this problem, or would the symptoms be different?
[19:04] <TJ-> hoijui: It's best to check the exact PCI Vendor:Product ID and driver, if any, using "lspci -nnk"
[19:05] <exe> Hey, question
[19:05] <TJ-> hoijui: Your 'hwinfo' says the device is 'unclaimed' that means it has no driver
[19:05] <exe> How do I add a new server on xchat?
[19:06] <ioria> hoijui,  http://www.pcidatabase.com/vendor_details.php?id=1302
[19:08] <hoijui> TJ-, ioria: 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection [8086:10f5] (rev 03)
[19:08] <hoijui> 	Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:20ee]
[19:08] <TJ-> hoijui: line 36 of your original pastebin shows it is the 8086:10f5 device, so if that alias is claimed by e1000e according to modinfo, then I'd suspect you have a PCI bus config problem, and I'd look at /var/log/dmesg for clues that the device's BARs weren't all assigned
[19:09] <TJ-> hoijui: if your 'modinfo e1000e' doesn't show an alias covering  1f05 then you need a newer kernel.
[19:10] <hoijui> TJ- .. ahh there are 3 PCI related warnings in dmesg
[19:11] <TJ-> hoijui: try "grep '00:19.0' /var/log/dmesg"
[19:11] <hoijui> as you describe, the PCI thing makes more sense
[19:12] <TJ-> hoijui: It may be the bridge window couldn't accomodate the device's BARs. Depending on the mobo/BIOS it may not be using CRS. It is worth trying to reboot it and adding to the kernel command-line "pci=usr_crs"
[19:12] <TJ-> hoijui: most modern systems already support and use CRS, but it is an obvious option. Another option you should try is "pci=realloc"
[19:13] <TJ-> hoijui: Try them both as "pci=usr_crs,realloc" which will tell the OS to re-allocate bridge windows if the down-stream devices need more room
[19:13] <TJ-> hoijui: Typo! "pci=use_crs,realloc"
[19:14] <hoijui> TJ-, thanks! how do i get to the boot menu (as i have no multiboot)
[19:15] <ioria> hoijui,  shift right after bios screen
[19:15] <jwash> hi everyone, i have a tv/monitor that isn't showing up in my xrandr. i think my edid is corrupt. is there a way to get it working again? I'm using nvidia bumblebee on this laptop. it works find in windows, probably because it saved my edid information in the past. unfortunately i don't have that computer anymore.
[19:15] <hoijui> ioria, TJ- : possibly interesting dmesg stuff: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845916
[19:16] <hoijui> ioara, thanks.. will try that now
[19:16] <TJ-> hoijui: As soon as the system starts hold down Shift and wait until the GRUB boot menu is shown
[19:17] <TJ-> hoijui: That pastebin looks correct; the e1000e driver at that point was managing the device. Did you at some point do "modprobe -r e1000e" or "rmmod e1000e" before running "lshw" - because no driver was loaded when 'lshw' ran
[19:20] <indeedwatson> hello, my Lubuntu keeps freezing seemingly at random, how can i figure out what's wrong with it?
[19:20] <TJ-> hoijui: My other question is: "what makes you assume the interface will be named 'eth0' ?" Did you use "ip link show" or "ifconfig -a" to check all the Ethernet interface names. There might be a udevd rule renaming the interfance, or it may be using another naming scheme such as 'biosdevname'
[19:21] <daftykins> indeedwatson: does it appear to matter what you're doing at the time?
[19:21] <hoijui> TJ- when lshw ran, i had not yet used any remove module commands, no
[19:21] <indeedwatson> at first i thought it was firefox-related, but apparently not, it happens when idling even
[19:22] <hoijui> TJ-, now truing the kerlnel options, will check that one next
[19:22] <TJ-> hoijui: line 11 of that pastebin at 1.0xxx seconds into the boot shows e1000e dealing with the interrupts for that device.
[19:22] <daftykins> indeedwatson: have you tried a memtest? are you using a standard mechanical HDD?
[19:23] <indeedwatson> it's happening more frequently now, and when it does the mouse's light turns off, but the monitor stays on
[19:23] <hoijui> TJ- the kermel optiosn go in which line?
[19:23] <hoijui> same like root=UUID=....
[19:23] <indeedwatson> daftykins: yes, mechanical, and no, i never ran memtest, i'll google it
[19:23] <TJ-> hoijui: navigate to the line starting "linux ..." and add the options to the end of the line, space-separated from the other options
[19:24] <hoijui> ok
[19:24] <daftykins> indeedwatson: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and link the URL please
[19:24] <indeedwatson> this could be a hardware issue, i just want to figure it out without the need of formatting
[19:24] <TJ-> hoijui: Then press Ctrl+X or F10 to boot with those options
[19:25] <daftykins> indeedwatson: yeah, run the above and maybe it'll show
[19:26] <indeedwatson> im gonna log in from that pc brb
[19:28] <stacks88> dumb question im sure but, i just saw how there is a package called 'grive' on ubuntu 14.04 lts trusty, in the universe repository.. grive - Google Drive client for GNU/Linux.. How is it determined that a package is safe and not malicious? Does someone at ubuntu or debian verify the source code, build it and then thats how it ends up in the repository? I know im being irrational but im just
[19:28] <stacks88> trying to understand if someone is actually looking over the source code of these packages that we are freely able to install, or if its just assumed its safe, compiled and ported to .deb and thats it.
[19:28] <hoijui> WOAA
[19:29] <hoijui> TJ-, ioria, i have eth0 now! wiht the kernel options!
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> stacks88  this is the support channel, your question is more for #ubuntu-offtopic, i guess
[19:29] <hoijui> lets see if it works...
[19:29] <ioria> hoijui,  pci problem then ?
[19:30] <hoijui> yes, it works!
[19:30] <hoijui> ioria, yep!
[19:30] <hoijui> wow.. thanks guys!
[19:30] <OerHeks> stacks88, go check the source yourself https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grive
[19:30] <TJ-> hoijui: Great ... now add them permanently
[19:30] <hoijui> so i have ot make sure to add these things in my grubconfig then, right?
[19:30] <Pici> stacks88: I think your question is just fine for this channel.. anyway, You may want to see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories, and note that most of our packages are synched from Debian
[19:30] <TJ-> hoijui: You know how to do that, or want instructions?
[19:30] <hoijui> or how
[19:31] <hoijui> loose instructions woudl be good
[19:31] <ioria> hoijui,  sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[19:31] <hoijui> liek.. edit grub file and reinstall grub or soemthing?
[19:31] <TJ-> hoijui: Edit /etc/default/grub, put them in the variable GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX, then do "sudo update-grub"
[19:32] <stacks88> OerHeks but thats just it. I fully understand the source is available for me to view, but i just wonder if these packages are blindly being put together without reviewing the source, (as id imagine that would take too much time maybe to review all the source code for every package, or?)
[19:32] <ioria> TJ-  great TJ -
[19:32] <stacks88> Pici ok thanks
[19:32] <hoijui> thanks! :-)
[19:33] <hoijui> so... now can we do somethign that others wiht the same problem get benefits too?
[19:33] <ioria> hoijui,  did you use pci=use_crs,realloc or what ?
[19:33] <hoijui> my simple idea is, to open a question on superuser stackexchange?
[19:33] <hoijui> ioria, yes, those!
[19:34] <TJ-> hoijui: we have many bug reports along the same lines for various hardware; It's a firmware bug really
[19:34] <ioria> hoijui,  idk... maybe it's specific of your hardware
[19:34] <OerHeks> stacks88, not blindly AFAIK, why do you ask?
[19:34] <TJ-> hoijui: There are 2 separate issues. It'd be worth you testing each option separately to find out if only one of them is required.
[19:34] <hoijui> TJ- .. hmmmm... so is it documented somewhere already?
[19:35] <hoijui> ok, i will do that...
[19:35] <Kalimero> my ubuntu server restarts @ a certain time once a day. but sometimes it doesnt come up again. in which log do i have to look in to find out whats going wwrong
[19:35] <daftykins> Kalimero: is it a physical machine you run yourself at home?
[19:35] <TJ-> hoijui: use_crs tells the OS to use the ACPI CRS (Current Resources) method of the DSDT.
[19:36] <Kalimero> daftykins: yes it is
[19:36] <daftykins> Kalimero: do you run it headless?
[19:36] <hoijui> device tree?
[19:36] <hoijui> ok...
[19:36] <TJ-> hoijui: pci=realloc tells the OS to try alternative bridge windows for PCI devices if those devices won't fit in the current bridge window. Often the BIOS doesn't set the bridge window large enough.
[19:36] <Kalimero> daftykins: what do u mean by headless
[19:36] <hoijui> btw, i will get nearly the same hardware again tomorrow
[19:36] <hoijui> or .. soon
[19:37] <TJ-> hoijui: no, no device-tree on there. DSDT is Differentiated Services Description Table
[19:37] <daftykins> Kalimero: no attached screen
[19:37] <hoijui> so i will see if i get the smae problem there
[19:37] <hoijui> ahhh ok
[19:37] <TJ-> hoijui: I suspect "pci=use_crs" fixed it.
[19:37] <hoijui> thanks
[19:37] <inddwtsn> daftykins: can you send me the command again?
[19:37] <inddwtsn> for memtest
[19:38] <Kalimero> daftykins: yes no screen and no keyboard is attached atm
[19:38] <ioria> hoijui,  get a wireless router so you can use wifi if you want
[19:38] <hoijui> trying that now....
[19:38] <daftykins> inddwtsn: it's actually not memtest, but another idea - "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit" and link the URL please
[19:38] <hoijui> ioria, yeah.. maybe!
, as you suspected.. pci=use_crs was enoug
[19:39] <hoijui> will now try again wihtout either option, jsut to make sure no weird thing happened inbetween...
[19:40] <inddwtsn> daftykins: paste.ubuntu.com/12330568/
[19:40] <hoijui> shii..
[19:41] <hoijui> now it works without eihter option!
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  kiddin ?
[19:41] <hoijui> nope
[19:41] <daftykins> inddwtsn: re-run the command with -s as mentioned
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  try to shutdown
[19:41] <ash_work> is there a way to compare an ls from dir1 to dir2 and output files present in dir2 but not present in dir1?
[19:41] <hoijui> i rebootet at least 3 tiems before i came here
[19:41] <daftykins> inddwtsn: so "sudo smartctl -s on -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[19:41] <ioria> hoijui,  not reboot try to shutdown
[19:42] <ash_work> maybe some find command voodoo
[19:42] <hoijui> ioria.. ahh ok.. trying..
[19:42] <daftykins> ash_work: why bother? just rsync the pair then you'll know :)
[19:42] <ioria> hoijui,  and paste sudo lshw -c Network
[19:42] <hoijui> hoijui, still.. works without any options
[19:42] <daftykins> ash_work: i think it even has a dry run option so you can see what it'll do before doing it
[19:42] <hoijui> ok..
[19:42] <inddwtsn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330588/
[19:44] <daftykins> inddwtsn: hmm ok doesn't look too bad, also "free -m | pastebinit" ?
[19:44] <inddwtsn> is it the hdd?
[19:45] <inddwtsn> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12330605/
[19:45] <daftykins> inddwtsn: hmm, foreignese :D nope that looks ok, so i'd hold left shift at startup, go to advanced and run memtest
[19:45] <daftykins> !memtest
[19:45] <daftykins> no factoid =|
[19:46] <Midoshi27> I'm having trouble using the 'Startup Disk Creator'. I'm trying to use an .iso of RHEL 6.5 but it's not loading into the .iso list after I select it. Has anybody run into this problem before?
[19:46] <mab_> hello
[19:46] <OerHeks> ash_work, diff -r <directory1> <directory2>
[19:46] <daftykins> Midoshi27: no point, just use dd to put the ISO on a flash drive
[19:46] <wileee> Midoshi27, It only reads ubuntu iso's
[19:47] <hoijui> ioria, TJ- now it just.. disconnected, and the lights on the interface went off
[19:47] <lisibowk> hello
[19:47] <inddwtsn> daftykins: memtest is already installed?
[19:47] <hoijui> ioria, lshw https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8845920
[19:47] <daftykins> inddwtsn: yeah, should be on the GRUB boot menu
[19:47] <lisibowk> I have problem to Install buntu 14
[19:47] <inddwtsn> ok brb
[19:47] <hoijui> so maybe hardware problem after all?
[19:47] <daftykins> lisibowk: what's that? on one line
[19:48] <Midoshi27> wileee: Oh I thought that might be the problem
[19:48] <Midoshi27> daftykins: tried that, usb fails to boot
[19:48] <ioria> hoijui,  ifconfig ?
[19:48] <daftykins> Midoshi27: how did you do it? if you wrote to sdb1 for example, that won't work - it must be the main device, sdx
[19:49] <lisibowk> the problem is in bios menu
[19:49] <daftykins> lisibowk: can you explain in full in one sentence maybe instead of bits and pieces?
[19:49] <lisibowk> yes
[19:49] <hoijui> ioria, ifconfig still shows eth0, but no ip anymore (bfore got one from my other PC, through DHCP)
[19:50] <hoijui> i set IPS manually now, but still there is no connection
[19:50] <hoijui> and no lgihts showing up on the interface
[19:50] <hoijui> lights*
[19:50] <ash_work> OerHeks: no, cuz that prints tha differences actually in the files
[19:50] <ash_work> I literally just want to know which files are present or not... similar output to a regular ls -a1 command
[19:51] <lisibowk> now i have linux mint 17.2 and want to try ubuntu I allready have usb with ubuntu_ but I dont kow how to start it from pc
[19:51] <ioria> hoijui,  go in Cnnecton Infromation
[19:51] <inddwtsn> shift didn't do anything, it just booted me straight back into the system
[19:51] <ioria> hoijui,  from the the upper paneò
[19:51] <daftykins> lisibowk: laptop/desktop? what brand?
[19:51] <ioria> *l
[19:52] <lisibowk> Laptop
[19:52] <lisibowk> hp 250
[19:52] <hoijui> ioria, and then?
[19:52] <hoijui> it shows the e1000e driver
[19:52] <ioria> hoijui,  check it
[19:52] <daftykins> lisibowk: ok, so something like F11 might give you a boot menu at power on
[19:53] <ioria> hoijui,  the ip , the gateway (default route)
[19:53] <hoijui> ioria, i am looking at it.. can not see anything special there
[19:53] <hoijui> yeah.. now they are on what i set manually
[19:53] <lisibowk> the problem is i boot menu
[19:54] <hoijui> and i cant ping, either way
[19:54] <ioria> hoijui,  DNS ?
[19:54] <hoijui> i cna ping my own IP though
[19:54] <newb123> How do I enable CONFIG_DEBUG_SPINLOCK in the kernel? Can I enable it per kernel module or just in the kernel itself?
[19:54] <lisibowk> I dont know how to configurate it
[19:54] <ioria> hoijui,  can you ping your router ?
[19:54] <hoijui> i have a crossover cable between the "sick" PC and the other one
[19:55] <daftykins> crossover cables haven't been necessary for a very long time.
[19:55] <hoijui> i did internet conenction sharing, and it worked
[19:55] <hoijui> but then it fialed, and now .. just does not get any packets through
[19:55] <hoijui> also wiht manual IPs set
[19:55] <ioria> hoijui,  so you cvan't ping your router ?
[19:56] <lisibowk> I mean that it does not start from usb
[19:56] <skinux> I just tried to install Ubuntu 14.04.3 from both USB and DVD, both ways when trying to boot the image it said no configuration file or UI found. What is that supposed to mean?
[19:56] <hoijui> ioria, there is no router involved
[19:56] <hoijui> but yes.. cant ping either PC from the other
[19:57] <daftykins> lisibowk: perhaps you did not prepare the drive properly
[19:57] <hoijui> i will try to reboot...
[19:57] <ioria> hoijui,  ok... well, add again the kernel parameter then ... and good luck mate
[19:57] <lisibowk> I used unetbootin
[19:57] <Moonlightning> So…what's up with the disparity between the initscripts and `service`?
[19:57] <hoijui> ioria, thanks :D
[19:57] <hoijui> and thansk a lto for your time..
[19:58] <lisibowk> mb I have to use another?
[19:58] <Moonlightning> `service` doesn't seem to be reading things from /etc/default (at least not for isc-dhcp-server)
[19:58] <skinux> Has anyone ever gotten the error no configuration file or UI found when trying to install Ubuntu?
[19:58] <hoijui> it works at least partially.. soemhow.. ;-) will meddle with this stuff, and come back if i foudn something stable
[19:58] <ioria> hoijui,  pleasure :-)
[19:58] <hoijui> :-)
[19:58] <daftykins> lisibowk: 'dd' in the terminal would do just fine. plug the flash drive in, identify it with "sudo parted -l" then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M"
[19:58] <lisibowk> which program you can recommend?
[19:59] <indeedwatson> daftykins: ok i'm running memtest, for how long and what do i do afterwards?
[19:59] <daftykins> indeedwatson: until the "Passes" variable changes to "2"
[19:59] <lisibowk> ok I will try
[20:00] <TJ-> hoijui: OK... if/when the interface dies, check "/var/log/kern.log"
[20:00] <skinux> ......why do I always get errors like this when I'm trying to do something
[20:00] <daftykins> indeedwatson: here's what a failure looks like - http://bestwinsoft.com/images/Memtest86_4.png
[20:01] <hoijui> TJ-, ok
[20:01] <indeedwatson> daftykins: ty, i'll go back and check in a bit
[20:01] <skinux> "no configuration file or UI found"...doesn't make any sense when trying to install from an ISO
[20:01] <lisibowk> can you set me link by link please I am stupid
[20:01] <TJ-> hoijui: you might want to look back in that log now, to the time when it disconnected earlier, and see what it shows.
[20:01] <skinux> I suppose I should mention that I think it gives me a "boot:" prompt
[20:02] <daftykins> skinux: sounds to me like your download was fudged.
[20:02] <skinux> Figures
[20:02] <TJ-> skinux: did you check the hash/checksum of the ISO, and of the image on the media?
[20:03] <hoijui> TJ-, now it fails to find my harddisc ...
[20:03] <hoijui> :D :D
[20:03] <hoijui> when booting
[20:03] <lisibowk> failed to open
[20:04] <daftykins> lisibowk: failed to open what? i gave you commands to run in the terminal application
[20:04] <skinux> Where do I find a checksum to compare it to? The download page doesn't have one.
[20:05] <bryan_> my browser game do not work, java is messed up, im using xubuntu
[20:05] <daftykins> !md5
[20:05] <hoijui> ah, now foudn it again..
[20:07] <TJ-> hoijui: sounds like the system needs a good clean and tidy
[20:07] <hoijui> TJ- ... ok :D
[20:07] <lisibowk> d: failed to open '/path/to/ubuntu.iso': No such file or directory
[20:08] <daftykins> lisibowk: yeah you need to actually put in the real path to the ISO file you downloaded.
[20:09] <lisibowk> using program or from web?
[20:09] <daftykins> it's on your disk, if you downloaded it
[20:09] <daftykins> so it might be in /home/username/Downloads/blah.iso
[20:09] <lisibowk> yes
[20:09] <daftykins> so you need to put that path into the command i gave
[20:10] <newb123> How can I get the source for the current kernel version? apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) seems to retrieve the linux source which is not the same kernel version as $(uname -r)?
[20:10] <daftykins> make sure you change 'sdx' to be the real disk device too
[20:10] <peyam> hi
[20:10] <peyam> everytime I install something I need to run sudo apt-get update otherwise it wont install anything
[20:10] <peyam> even if the name is in repository
[20:10] <lisibowk> I did it using the program unetbootin
[20:10] <daftykins> lisibowk: i'm saying to do it this way...
[20:11] <bekks> peyam: Updating the packages lists using sudo apt-get update is stringly recommended.
[20:11] <compdoc> unetbootin is terrible
[20:11] <peyam> yes but i dont have to use it everytime. It doesnt find it anyway
[20:12] <bekks> peyam: update updates the package lists, install installs, and search searches for software.
[20:12] <peyam> bekks, after many years of using linux now people tell me what install does.
[20:12] <daftykins> peyam: so you're saying if you run "apt-cache search linux" you get nothing?
[20:13] <bekks> peyam: Your experience and vita isnt instantly visible using IRC.
[20:13] <hoijui> TJ-, will open and clean it.. thanks a lot! might be back one of these days
[20:13] <hoijui> now bed
[20:13] <peyam> What im saying is without using sudo apt-get update, I cant use sudo apt-get install
[20:13] <enfinitee> Hey everyone! I'm on Ubuntu 15.04, and whenever I try to screenshot something, my whole screen goes gray and I have to either close the screenshot dialogue (losing the screenshot), or log out and back in. Does anybody know how to fix this? (p.s. if you Google the issue, resetting Unity does not fix it)
[20:14] <daftykins> enfinitee: works in the guest session?
[20:15] <lisibowk> I did it
[20:15] <daftykins> \o/
[20:15] <enfinitee> I haven't tried in the guest sessoin, @daftkins...let me get back to you
[20:17] <skinux> Damn it. I just downloaded the ISO again, and the checksum is wrong
[20:17] <skinux> I guess i can't download it directly to a USB.
[20:17] <daftykins> torrent it
[20:17] <daftykins> that'll ensure it's correct
[20:17] <daftykins> maybe you've got memory or disk issues?
[20:17] <enfinitee> daftykins...screenshotting in the guest session produced the same problem, gray screen that I had to close out of
[20:17] <lisibowk> ISO is on USB
[20:18] <daftykins> lisibowk: go try booting it again
[20:18] <daftykins> enfinitee: ok, that shows it's not user config based then perhaps
[20:18] <lisibowk> from bios?
[20:18] <daftykins> lisibowk: well the boot menu
[20:19] <lisibowk> ok
[20:19] <lisibowk> hope I will do it
[20:21] <popobo> Hello! I have a new laptop that can't reproduce sound through the speakers, only the headphones work. Can someone help me? Searching the Internet hasn't work.
[20:21] <popobo> My sound card is: ALC269VC
[20:22] <skinux> Yup..torrenting didn't help any
[20:23] <daftykins> skinux: based on what?
[20:24] <skinux> Nevermind. It's correct
[20:24] <skinux> I was looking at the example not the actual MD5sum
[20:24] <daftykins> :D
[20:25] <Twirl> woot, i just ctrl + F12 and now everything is moving in slow-mo :o am i on drugs? this is amzing
[20:34] <leeohaddad> teste A
[20:34] <daftykins> test failed
[20:34] <daftykins> reason: wrong channel
[20:35] <kostas> hi everyone
[20:35] <OerHeks> hi kostas
[20:39] <leeohaddad> teste A
[20:40] <leeohaddad> PRIVMSG leeohaddad2 testeP
[20:40] <OerHeks> !test > leeohaddad
[20:41] <leeohaddad> ubottu, where do I see it?
[20:41] <monster> I am seeing an issue with apt-get, not sure whats going on
[20:41] <monster> I am getting "W: Failed to fetch http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/dists/newrelic/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages  403  Forbidden"
[20:41] <monster> even though I can curl  http://apt.newrelic.com/debian/dists/newrelic/non-free/binary-amd64/ just fine
[20:41] <OerHeks> monster, join #debian, this is ubuntu support only
[20:42] <monster> I am using Ubuntu
[20:42] <monster> newrelic repo supports both ubuntu and debian
[20:43] <daftykins> monster: sorry PPAs aren't supported.
[20:43] <monster> http://i.imgur.com/CDWgKEL.png
[20:43] <OerHeks> monster, oh oke, but that repo is not officially supported, maybe you need a key? see their manual
[20:43] <monster> I did add the key
[20:43] <daftykins> contact them
[20:43] <monster> mkay
[20:44] <OerHeks> It loks like commercial stuff, lolz
[20:50] <jwash> i have an hdmi monitor, it won't show in ubuntu. i think its because it cant get the EDID. I have the EDID number saved in a txt file. how do i manually use the edid number with the monitor? any ideas?
[20:50] <freezer__> jwash, i believe you can include it in xorg.conf
[20:51] <jwash> freezer__ ty
[20:51] <jwash> i'll research
[20:52] <OerHeks> jwash, these answers might help you, http://kodi.wiki/view/Creating_and_using_edid.bin_via_xorg.conf and http://askubuntu.com/a/81374
[20:55] <dieterd>  gtkdialog working - sources not possible to compile because gtk2+.pc broken because gtk-engines-2.ps is linking to gtk2+.pc which is not existing.
[20:55] <dieterd> gtkdialog is damaged paket.
[20:56] <dieterd> apt-get upgrade:  failure in gtkdialog. unknown elements dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile Error 2. No solution found in www. deb maintainer comes from multiboot. Seems more a dummy package. Looking for a work around.
[20:57] <cofo> How can I download entire website with css/html/images/style with curl?
[20:57] <cofo> Please
[20:57] <OerHeks> dieterd, gtkdialog is long gone removed, what are you doing ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtkdialog
[20:57] <cofo> Any idea?
[20:58] <prometheus> hello guys
[20:58] <cofo> hi man
[20:59] <prometheus> is it a chat for all the ubuntu flavours?
[20:59] <prometheus> i mean, like ubuntu GNOME, etc, or just for unity?
[20:59] <dieterd> OerHeks: something needs it. but because of that upgrade is failing and stops in the middle.
[20:59] <cofo> yes
[20:59] <daftykins> prometheus: just ask away
[21:00] <OerHeks> dieterd, something?
[21:01] <dieterd> yeah, one is is multiboot for creating usb-sticks with mutliple distros and persistent modes.
[21:02] <cofo> Anone know how to use httrack?
[21:02] <dieterd> another thing is that so apt-get runs not through upgrade so dist-upgrade in futur never works too.
[21:02] <OerHeks> dieterd, still not clear how this is related to ubuntu?
[21:03] <OerHeks> Maybe someone else in this channel knows
[21:05] <dieterd> gtkdialog was in the past in paketmanager ubuntu moved to sourceforge and to google as external apt-sources.
[21:06] <jwash> 0erHeks: so i did find * / | grep xorg.conf here is the result http://paste.ubuntu.com/12331085/
[21:06] <jwash> which xorg.conf am i using?
[21:06] <lisibowk> âùûó òùå öùêë
[21:06] <dieterd> It's 10.04
[21:06] <lisibowk> dose not work
[21:07] <k1l> dieterd: ubuntu 10.04 is end of life.
[21:07] <dela> ??
[21:09] <dieterd> I know its an old PC.
[21:09] <OerHeks> 10.04 is EOL.
[21:10] <MonkeyDust> dieterd  10.04 is no longer supported
[21:11] <dieterd> Do you have an idea how to run through upgrade?  An option to bypass gtkdialog. May there is later an replacement.
[21:11] <k1l> !eolupgrade | dieterd
[21:13] <OerHeks> jwash, standard there is no xorg.conf, but you can generate one, like this answer http://www.ubuntututorials.com/location-xorg-conf-ubuntu/
[21:15] <jwash> can you point me to an example of one with EDID info included?
[21:16] <OerHeks> jwash, i don't have such examples, are those url's not enough info?
[21:16] <OerHeks> especially the kodi one?
[21:17] <jwash> none of them has an exampel
[21:17] <jwash> /etc/X11/edid.bin"
[21:17] <jwash> is an option from kodi
[21:17] <jwash> but i can't find an example of the file structure of edid.bin
[21:17] <thell> Hello, I'm looking at the ppas for both ubuntu-toolchain-r and /test and am wondering why vivid isn't listed in ubuntu-toolchain-r and the entries for vivid in /test are older? I was looking to add the ppa to a build script to get the latest gcc binary ...
[21:17] <thell> I asked in ubuntu-toolchain, but that is a quiet place...
[21:18] <vlayn>   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vlayn
[21:18] <vlayn>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY vlayn
[21:18] <OerHeks> vlayn, time to change password
[21:19] <vlayn> yes ..
[21:19] <OerHeks> jwash, nope, sorry
[21:19] <OerHeks> personally i never had this EDID trouble myself
[21:19] <OerHeks> vlayn, https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#changepass
[21:20] <jwash> i tried to use an edid cloner so that my monitor output would be displayed on 2 simultaneous outputs
[21:21] <dieterd> xorg.conf: http://www.drewanz.com/dieter/linux/XORG.TXT
[21:23] <dieterd> jwash: look xrandr
[21:25] <TJ-> jwash: instead of trying to use a manual EDID, you can set a Section "Monitor" in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" which sets the monitor's correct HorizSync and VerticalRefresh ranges
[21:25] <TJ-> jwash: that info will be in the monitor/TV manual, usually in the technical specifications in an appendix
[21:26] <jwash> dieterd it isn't showing in xrandr
[21:26] <jwash> TJ- will it work even if it doesn't show in xrandr?
[21:26] <dieterd> jwash: https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-setup-dual-monitors-with-xrandr/     and no xconf.org is required for that
[21:27] <indeedwatson> daftykins: still here? memtest 3 passes and 0 errors, wat do?
[21:29] <TJ-> jwash: Here's an example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12331289/
[21:30] <TJ-> jwash: If the output doesn't show up in xrandr then you need to check the Xorg server log in case something else is wrong, too "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[21:30] <dieterd> Without xorg.config you can type this in termainal as xrandr options. if found right values, put all orders in a bash file. that you can start from terminal. terminal xrandr offers more options than GUI xrandr!
[21:31] <TJ-> jwash:  what does "xrandr -q" report?
[21:32] <jwash> TJ- HDMI1 not connected
[21:32] <jwash> it is turned on and connected
[21:33] <jwash> i think that it isn't being recognized because the EDID code got funked up
[21:37] <TJ-> jwash EDID is optional. I'd check the HDMI connections, and ensure the monitor has that connection enabled for viewing
[21:37] <daftykins> indeedwatson: hrmm, is it a laptop?
[21:38] <jwash> tj it is 100% certain
[21:38] <TJ-> jwash: if the monitor is a TV, sometimes it needs to be connected to the PC before powering on in order to be enabled
[21:40] <daftykins> jwash: there was someone in here not long ago who was sure their HDMI cable was ok, but suddenly decided to buy a new one and saw all their problems go away - worth bearing in mind
[21:40] <jwash> ive tried known good cable
[21:40] <indeedwatson> daftykins: no, pretty old desktop. I might just give up and install fedora or debian and see if the problem persists
[21:41] <daftykins> indeedwatson: ah, well the disk did speak of errors so i'd try leaving it disconnected and run just a live session perhaps - see if it falls over in the same way
[21:41] <daftykins> best idea i can come up with
[21:41] <indeedwatson> that's a good idea
[21:41] <yoerdiad> daftykins is a white nigger
[21:42] <indeedwatson> i was thinking it was either disk or psu
[21:42] <OerHeks> !ops | yoerdiad
[21:42] <yoerdiad> indeedwatson is a motherfucking bastard
[21:42] <indeedwatson> kek
[21:50] <september552> hi
[21:53] <mxr> hş
[21:53] <mxr> selam
[21:54] <reisio> mxr: later on
[21:55] <jonobu> can anyone assist with unattended installation?
[21:56] <jonobu> specifically looking for help debugging fallback to interactive installation, thanks!
[21:58] <reisio> never saw the point in unattended installation
[21:58] <daftykins> large networks i guess, my Uni used it
[21:58] <BotchlaB> Sometimes people can't keep an eye on the terminal.
[21:58] <tonyyarusso> reisio: Becomes obvious as the volume of your systems goes up.
[22:00] <jonobu> I assume my issue with the pressed config, but would appreciate some guidance on debugging
[22:00] <Promille> Hey guys. Ok I got some major problems here. I updated from 14.04 to 15.04, and there were screwups with 8 packages: grub, initscripts, upstart and friendly recovery. This means that apt-get wont run, its exites since it can't fix these problems. dpkg --configure -a didnt work, neither did apt-get install -f . Any suggestions? Here is transcript from apt-get when i tried to do apt-get update: http://pastie.org/private/aup68whp
[22:00] <daftykins> Promille: directly?
[22:01] <Promille> daftykins: directly, what?
[22:01] <daftykins> the upgrade...
[22:01] <daftykins> was it 14.04 -> 15.04 direct?
[22:01] <Promille> daftykins: thats right
[22:01] <daftykins> ok well that's unsupported
[22:01] <daftykins> so sounds like you nerf'd it
[22:01] <Promille> with do-release-upgrade daftykins.
[22:02] <daftykins> mmm no i don't think that allows anything other than via 14.10
[22:02] <daftykins> anywho your pastie ID doesn't work
[22:02] <Promille> daftykins: It can't be that fatal. I'm logged into my pc fine, xserver runs fine its just the package manager who doesn't work
[22:03] <Promille> http://pastie.org/private/aup68whp5kja7hpaqyai2a this didnt work?
[22:03] <daftykins> oh no your ID got chopped off due to the length of your earlier message
[22:03] <daftykins> only aup68whp came through
[22:03] <Promille> ah ok
[22:04] <Promille> Some of it is in norwegian though, but most of it is in english
[22:04] <reisio> norwegian? What's that
[22:04] <daftykins> i wonder if a boot of live session and chroot would be of any use to you?
[22:04] <Promille> It's a cold thingy up north
[22:05] <Promille> Yeah, maby I could try it
[22:07] <yoerdiad> Kim Davis.  Refusing to issue gay marriage licenses.  . . Liberals use the race card or what ever hate card they can to promote hate. In her situation, she pulled out the religion hate card. She was a democrat   . A typical liberal that misuses freedom to annoy others, but hates you when you are different than them. Typical intolerant liberal democract
[22:08] <nonickforme> What ever happened to that POS mir?
[22:11] <nonickforme> What ever happened to that POS mir?
[22:11] <daftykins> stop repeating
[22:11] <OerHeks> mir is not ready yet.
[22:11] <nonickforme> daftykins, provide an anaswer instead of saying stop repeating.
[22:11] <nonickforme> >_>
[22:12]  * OerHeks now ignoring nonickforme
[22:12] <nonickforme> OerHeks, last video I saw of it, it was broken in many ways
[22:12] <daftykins> nonickforme: don't bring that attitude here, you don't act entitled to those you want information from.
[22:12] <nonickforme> daftykins, welcome to /ignore.
[22:12] <daftykins> my thoughts exactly (:
[22:12] <nonickforme> I came to ask a question and possibly get an answer instead of being told what to do and not getting any remotely insiteful information.
[22:13] <nonickforme> Wayland and Weston are now supported under Ubuntu right?
[22:15] <nonickforme> So Ubuntu is going to use Mir instead of Wayland?
[22:16] <compdoc> a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse
[22:17] <daftykins> that's nice, compdoc
[22:17] <nonickforme> I'm trying to understand Wayland
[22:18] <nonickforme> So Wayland is the protocol, Weston is the compositor, and things like KDE / Gnome / LXDE / OpenBox conntect to Weston?
[22:19] <nonickforme> sorry compdoc wrong channel
[22:21] <k1l> nonickforme: no. kde, gnome etc are other westons
[22:24] <unixgirl> https://2ch.hk/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm
[22:27] <skinux> Is 13.04 missing many wireless drivers that 14.04 does have?
[22:28] <k1l> skinux: dont waste a thought about 13.04, its dead already
[22:28] <skinux> I just installed 13.04 over 14.04 because I couldn't 14.04 to install from any medium. Now, it says internet is disconnected when it should be connecting.
[22:28] <daftykins> you should be working on why you can't install 14.04, not doing this ass-backwards approach
[22:29] <skinux> I was going to upgrade from 13.04 to latest version.
[22:29] <k1l> skinux: old kernel, old drivers. no one is going to be motivated to fix a EOL release anyway.
[22:29] <skinux> Because using USB the system says "configuration file" is missing, and from disc it says it can't find anything to boot.
[22:30] <netlar> How do I find out if I am doing a uefi boot
[22:30] <daftykins> skinux: so pick a non .3 14.04 disc image :)
[22:30] <daftykins> netlar: the boot screen is white text on black background instead of purple with logo
[22:31] <skinux> Why should I be trying to install 14.04 instead of 14.04.3???
[22:31] <daftykins> because it's media with a different kernel and is a worthy variable to change
[22:31] <skinux> Well, the download available at ubuntu.com is 14.04.3
[22:31] <daftykins> btw you're rubbish at actually thanking those who help you in here, given how regular your queries are :P
[22:31] <netlar> daftykins: That is only way to tell?
[22:32] <netlar> daftykins: I am confused before I have a uefi mobo
[22:32] <daftykins> netlar: you can also pick the entry on the boot menu of EFI or legacy
[22:32] <skinux> I'll work on that.
[22:33] <daftykins> skinux: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/
[22:34] <test312> what is the German IRC ?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> !de | test312
[22:36] <test312> thx of lot ;)
[22:37] <test312> cya
[22:44] <skinux> Thanks for pointing me to using 14.04 specifically for install. I'm going to try it now.
[22:45] <nug700> ugh why is no effort put into linux ports
[22:46] <daftykins> 'ports' ?
[22:46] <nug700> porting from mac or windows to linux
[22:49] <tgm4883> nug700: porting what?
[22:49] <nug700> unity3D specifically
[22:50] <daftykins> i think this is one for -offtopic
[22:51] <nug700> I wasn't aware there's an offtopic channel :P
[22:52] <tgm4883> !OT
[22:54] <daftykins> nug700: how come you knew i meant a channel then?
[22:54] <daftykins> :D
[22:55] <hizz> Can anyone help me get bluetooth working on my ubuntu?
[22:55] <nug700> cause a lot of irc channels have an -offtopic
[23:00] <PercyB> Any op here atm?
[23:00] <daftykins> PercyB: why do you want an op?
[23:01] <PercyB> I have a channel related private question
[23:01] <daftykins> ask in their channel then, #ubuntu-ops
[23:01] <k1l> PercyB: the ops team is at #ubuntu-ops
[23:02] <PercyB> Ah, I see, thank you!
[23:08] <skinux> Well, tried 14.04 on USB (some kind of error) and using DVD the system acted like the disc was blank.
[23:09] <daftykins> heh
[23:09] <daftykins> well obviously everyone else works out fine, so i think your system is funky.
[23:09] <daftykins> or just everything you do is jinxed
[23:09] <skinux> Well..I don't know what to do. So, I guess I don't use Linux anymore.
[23:10] <daftykins> sounds like a plan
[23:10] <skinux> You're an ass...you know that.
[23:10] <daftykins> well you're not helping yourself, but sure feel free to lash out at the person that's been helping
[23:11] <skinux> I wasn't serious.
[23:11] <daftykins> i am. goodbye
[23:11] <skinux> Okay...now...I am serious.  I know they both SHOULD work. But I'm out of ideas.
[23:13] <daftykins> yep not even trying, memtest time
[23:14] <skinux> Well..instead of saying I'm not trying, you could point out what I'm missing.
[23:15] <daftykins> i can't hold your hand through every attempt.
[23:15] <daftykins> you have to learn to think for yourself instead of coming in here every time :)
[23:16] <skinux> Okay..so should I be thinking of pizza or tomatos?
[23:16] <tgm4883> seriously off topic guys
[23:17] <reisio> skinux: not replacements for oen another
[23:17] <skinux> Huh??
[23:18] <daftykins> tgm4883: don't be ridiculous, it's a support channel.
[23:18] <reisio> for one*
[23:19] <tgm4883> daftykins: let's be real. Is any support actually happening?
[23:19] <reisio> let us be non-fake
[23:19] <skinux> Right at the moment he seems to be having more fun trying to make fun of me.
[23:19] <daftykins> nope i haven't seen you reply yet, just moan as usual :>
[23:19] <reisio> skinux: well, that's where the 'fun' in 'make fun' comes in
[23:20] <skinux> Hold up. An ISO all by itself on a USB stick isn't bootable..is it?
[23:20] <k1l> skinux: "my car doesnt work, i tried everything" how should one help there? we dont know details, errormessages or what you might have done wrong on making the boot-medium.
[23:20] <daftykins> hang on, this whole time you've been pasting the file and not actually dd'ing it on?
[23:21] <k1l> skinux: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:21] <skinux> Yeah, both times I just downloaded the ISO to the USB.
[23:21] <k1l> skinux: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[23:21] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[23:22] <reisio> skinux: it can be, depends on what you mean by 'on'
[23:22] <u0m3> anyone here has any experience with nvidia/opencl issues? Ubuntu 14.04 LTS if it matters
[23:22] <u0m3> I can't get it to see the OpenCL device.
[23:22] <daftykins> skinux: so your DVD was also just a data disc with the ISO written? oh dear.
[23:23] <daftykins> how did you install it the first time o0
[23:23] <skinux> I only got 13.04 to install and I don't remember how I burned that.
[23:24] <Guest65594> i have two servers running ubuntu vivid - one is still using upstart, one is not. i can't figure out what the difference is. can someone help?
[23:24] <daftykins> sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[23:24] <daftykins> that's how y'do it
[23:24] <skinux> GParted ISO (which technically was embedded into Ubuntu) booted up fine with only being pasted to the USB stick.
[23:24] <daftykins> an ISO pasted would not work
[23:24] <skinux> daftykins: I'm having to use Windows to create the bootable media.
[23:24] <ninthDimension> Hello. I have windows 7 on a single large partition. How can I create a partition so that I can install Ubuntu? Can I use GParted for Win7?
[23:25] <daftykins> skinux: universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com then
[23:25] <skinux> I'm already working on it.
[23:25] <ninthDimension> I read that I should not use Disk Management to create partitions for Ubuntu. What other utilities can I use - GParted in Win7?
[23:25] <reisio> ninthDimension: if you don't have any empty partition space, you can resize Windows' to make room, yes
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: but it's not 100% safe, more like 90%
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: backup important data and defrag beforehand
[23:26] <reisio> ninthDimension: or better yet just get another storage device, you'll need more storage eventually anyway
[23:26] <reisio> GNU/Linux installs to and boots from USB sticks and external drives fine, btw
[23:26] <k1l> ninthDimension: i suggest to use the windows tools to shrink the windows partition. then you can use the ubuntu installer to create the partitions in that free space
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Guest65594: A good place to start : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[23:27]  * reisio wouldn't use a windows tool to query the time of day
[23:28] <ninthDimension> So I can use Disk Management to resize the Windows partition without formatting it or losing data - Does this entail making a new partition, or simply shrinking the Win7 partition and relegating the rest to "free space"? Afterwards, when I boot from my Ubuntu USB stick, will it contain utilities for me to turn "free space" into a working partition for Ubuntu?
[23:29] <reisio> ninthDimension: first you shrink, then you make new partition/s in unpartitioned space
[23:29] <daftykins> ninthDimension: shrinking yes, through diskmgmt.msc
[23:29] <k1l> ninthDimension: because of murphys law there is no such thing as "without data loss"
[23:29] <reisio> ninthDimension: then format/install/etc.
[23:29] <ninthDimension> k1l: oh sorry that's pretty much what you just said right? didn't read it properly. did I understand correctly?
[23:29] <reisio> yeah Murphy's law, or Windows
[23:29] <reisio> take your pick
[23:29] <ninthDimension> thanks guys
[23:29] <k1l> once you have a backup, you wont loose data :)
[23:29] <reisio> it's much simpler to just get another storage device / install to another storage device
[23:30] <reisio> it's a better use of time/money/effort
[23:30] <reisio> although, so is choosing a single OS over two at once
[23:30] <daftykins> now now, we only question the helpees when they're trying to do something insane
[23:31] <ninthDimension> does this qualify as insane?
[23:31] <daftykins> nah
[23:31] <reisio> ninthDimension: nah, just a little wasteful
[23:31] <reisio> but what's life without waste
[23:32] <ninthDimension> In an ideal world... yada yada yada. But I do need my windows as well as my Ubuntu :(
[23:32] <daftykins> i'd drop the ubuntu *cough*
[23:37] <nitin> nitin: hi
[23:37] <nitin> nitin: hi
[23:48] <Jordan_U> k1l: Why do you recommend using Windows' tools for resizing the Windows partition? In my opinion, doing that has a greater risk of user error than simply letting Ubuntu's installer do the resizing, while ntfsresize has possibly more real world testing than Windows' tools (installing linux is probably the primary reason a person resizes an ntfs volume) and a great track record.
[23:48] <daftykins> fundamentally disagree there :)
[23:50] <k1l> Jordan_U: first: if anything goes wrong its not ubuntus fault :) second: imho its better to let windows do the shrinking. its well tested and stable. and imho better than the reverse engeneered drivers from the linux world