[06:19] <GameOver> it says function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: no sucuh file or directory
[06:22] <Panzerboy> wow
[06:22] <Panzerboy> that's something i've never encountered
[06:22] <GameOver> great lol
[06:22] <Panzerboy> try do type dmesg | more
[06:22] <Panzerboy> and see where it says something about the sound card
[06:25] <GameOver> um.... the only thingi can see is the following....
[06:25] <GameOver> pnp ACPI init
[06:25] <GameOver> ugh hold on ill copy and paste. but i gotta do it form the other computer
[06:25] <GameOver> its too much for me to type
[06:25] <Panzerboy> don't paste here!
[06:25] <Panzerboy> use pastebin
[06:25] <Panzerboy> or smth
[06:25] <GameOver> whats that
[06:25] <Panzerboy> see topic
[06:27] <GameOver> iim not gonna pste the whole thing just 2 line
[06:27] <mike>      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.SIO0.LPT_._CRS]  (Node cffda180), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[06:27] <mike> [4294672.398000]      ACPI-0171: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.SIO0.LPT_._CRS]  (Node cffda180), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[06:27] <mike> [4294672.398000]  pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0400
[06:27] <GameOver> there
[06:28] <GameOver> is that sound related?
[06:28] <mmport81> hi all, i got problems getting sound in with any non-root user - could anyone gimme a place to start loking where the problem could be (i am pretty uptodate using backports (apt repositories don't seem to be working today))
[06:29] <weedar> What to do when a window is to big to fit onscreen making it impossible to click a button on the bottom of the window?
[06:30] <mmport81> weedar, can't u resize the window?
[06:30] <weedar> mmport81, not to the point where I can see the bottom part of the window. The window I'm talking of is the "Network Settings" one in KDE, btw
[06:31] <weedar> I have to click "Administrator Mode" to change anything, but that button is not visible so.. :/
[06:32] <mmport81> have you tried to change the resolution?
[06:32] <GameOver> how do u change resolution?
[06:32] <weedar> mmport81, sure that would help, but I was hoping for a better solution :)
[06:33] <mmport81> k menu > system settings > display
[06:33] <mmport81> weedar, well if you have more pixels to play around with that might be nice too :)
[06:34] <weedar> mmport81, seems I can't change the resolution - 1024x768 seems to be the max I can use
[06:34] <GameOver> mmport81... i dont have anything called display....
[06:34] <Panzerboy> GameOver: it can be, try to disable acpi at boot
[06:34] <Panzerboy> weedar: what i did is to hide the task bar :)
[06:34] <GameOver> Panzerboy: i have no clue how to do that
[06:35] <Panzerboy> weedar: then i was able to press that button (also in the network settings in kde :P)
[06:35] <mmport81> (oh i am using indoensian / german / english for my lang) but it's there in hardware, in system settings
[06:35] <weedar> Panzerboy, I tried that after reading your tip. Unfortunately the button is still not visible :(
[06:35] <GameOver> panzerboy... how do i change the screen resoultion
[06:36] <mmport81> weedar: i just looked at network settings too - i also use 1024x768 res, and can't see anything
[06:36] <Panzerboy> GameOver: go to system settings
[06:37] <GameOver> there
[06:37] <Panzerboy> then to display
[06:37] <GameOver> i hav e nothing called display
[06:37] <Panzerboy> ??
[06:37] <GameOver> i have appearance and themes, desktop, etc
[06:37] <GameOver> no display
[06:37] <Panzerboy> second row, under hardware ?
[06:37] <Panzerboy> umm
[06:37] <Panzerboy> i guess you've started kcontrol
[06:37] <Panzerboy> go to the menu
[06:37] <Panzerboy> and choose System Settings
[06:37] <GameOver> dont have hardware eithier
[06:38] <GameOver> oooo
[06:38] <Panzerboy> the first option above Settings
[06:38] <GameOver> wait i was using the other settings
[06:38] <Panzerboy> yeah :)
[06:38] <GameOver> ok
[06:38] <GameOver> how come my max is 1024 by 768
[06:38] <vircuser> help i just loaded kubuntu live cd and my internet isn't wking. I had ubuntu on and same prob. i thought maybe kubuntu will load better.
[06:38] <Panzerboy> weedar: i don't know why, but now i can see the network settings correctly
[06:38] <mmport81> weedar, try opening the kcontrol program...
[06:38] <GameOver> i want to make it 1280
[06:39] <vircuser> hello mmport 81
[06:39] <Panzerboy> GameOver: well, that might be tricky, i guess you must modify the config file
[06:39] <Panzerboy> for the x server
[06:39] <Panzerboy> i don't know of any other way to do it
[06:39] <weedar> thanks mmport81
[06:39] <mmport81> weedar, (same as settings, but i can see system mode etc etc)
[06:39] <weedar> that did the trick!
[06:39] <GameOver> can u tell me how to access it
[06:39] <mmport81> :)
[06:39] <Panzerboy> wait a sec
[06:39] <mmport81> hi vircuser
[06:39] <GameOver> k
[06:40] <weedar> I hope JohnFlux is aware of this :)
[06:40] <Panzerboy> GameOver: it's in /etc/X11
[06:40] <Panzerboy> the name is xorg.conf
[06:40] <mmport81> GameOver, alt-f2 then type kcontrol
[06:40] <mmport81> GameOver (prob got my wires crossed...)
[06:41] <GameOver> ok
[06:42] <vircuser> mmport81 i'm running kubuntu  live because i had porb with ubuntu in my kinfor center under networks it shw loopback status up but i can't surf. i have a sbc home portal where 2 of 3 comp surf using a hpna (usb adapter plug  into phoneline) what's wrong. i see ip address, netwo mask all good but can't connect.
[06:43] <weedar> Is /etc/init.d/networking the script that runs during boot-up that says "Configuring Network Interfaces"?
[06:43] <mmport81> the "hpna" is connected to your comp by usb? - or by ethernet cable?
[06:44] <vircuser> usb
[06:46] <doug> man they are on a roll with KDE
[06:46] <vircuser> mmport81 i have a modem/router 2wire (external). i have 2 comp. 1 ethernet the other is a usb adapter looks like a  phone line filter run xp.  i get the dsl on my reg phone line with the adapter well i installed ubuntu and kubuntu and same prob. i can't surf
[06:46] <doug> i'm having fun with eye candy such as akregator, konqueror and even konversation
[06:47] <doug> i gotta say, i'm tempted to switch from firefox to konq
[06:47] <pulsar> Hello!
[06:47] <mmport81>  vircuser: type in lsusb in konsole
[06:48] <pulsar> I've got a question about my "hostname".
[06:48] <vircuser> mmport81 i'll run to other run and (kubuntu comp) and type it and tell you what happend
[06:48] <mmport81> ok
[06:48] <mmport81> that's "ell"susb
[06:49] <mmport81> not i or anything btw...
[06:51] <mmport81> douglas: i much prefer konq to firefox - maybe i am just more used to it now - check out the spell check in konq tho - v nice...
[06:53] <pulsar> Can anyone help me? What should I set my hostname to on my notebook, having in mind, that I'd like to use postfix to fetch mail and deliver it to my account and also accepting local mail relaying to a smarthost?
[06:54] <Panzerboy> pulsar: i like for example a hostname like 'mordor'
[06:54] <Panzerboy> pulsar: or 'shaddowofthedeath
[06:55] <mmport81> heheh
[06:55] <Panzerboy> or smth along that line
[06:55] <mmport81> i normal have bond girl names :)
[06:55] <Panzerboy> heh
[06:55] <Panzerboy> i had once a 'cassianna'
[06:55] <Panzerboy> hostname, that is
[06:55] <Panzerboy> unfortunatelly, ONLY a hostname
[06:56] <pulsar> What about domains? :)
[06:56] <Panzerboy> well, i don't have any domains yet, so no pointers there
[06:56] <mmport81> vircuser: i will be back in an hour or so, lsusb will tell you what kind of device you have attached, which you can use to find how to get working in linux...
[06:56] <pulsar> Should I use my "own" domain (which is hosted at some provider?)
[06:56] <Panzerboy> ExtremeCrueltyToSmallAnimals.com sounds cool though
[06:56] <vircuser> mmport81 bus 004 device 003: id 058f:6362  alcor micro corp hi speed `16 in `1 flash card reader / writer
[06:57] <vircuser> i don't see the network interface
[06:57] <mmport81> is that all that comes up?
[06:57] <GameOver> ok im edited it...... and erstarting....
[06:57] <GameOver> i shoudl now see it when i look in display as an option?
[06:57] <Snake__> !seen _nano_
[06:57] <ubotu> _nano_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13d 9h 55m 56s ago, saying: 'ok what's rc5.d and rc2.d lol'.
[06:57] <vircuser> xirlink webcam
[06:57] <mmport81> cos, i would expect some infor about your "hpnp" device
[06:57] <vircuser> lexmar
[06:57] <vircuser> no not that how can i load it
[06:58] <neoncode> What program can play MP4 files? I know I can play them because i get a preview of said MP4 file in konqueror
[06:58] <vircuser> mmport81 it shows it as a loopback with ip address and newmask  address what's wrong?
[06:59] <Panzerboy> vircuser: it should not show it as loopback, imho
[06:59] <Panzerboy> neoncode: amarok ?
[06:59] <vircuser> mmport81 i meant netmask ... oooops
[06:59] <mmport81> mmport81: any number of things could be wrong...
[07:00] <neoncode> Panzerboy: nope
[07:00] <mmport81> anyway gtg...
[07:00] <vircuser> thanks
[07:00] <Panzerboy> hmm ... i remember somebody saying something yesterday in this channel about mp4 playback ... but i don't remember who or what
[07:01] <vircuser> anybody know how to get kubuntu to recogn my usb adapter for hpna
[07:04] <GameOver> hey does anyone know how to get rid of the black bars/frame in mplayer..... because when u do fullscreen the video doesnt get bigger just the frame does
[07:05] <Panzerboy> GameOver: try to play through xv
[07:05] <GameOver> xv?
[07:05] <Panzerboy> GameOver: that means mplayer -vo xv <movie.avi?
 :P
[07:06] <GameOver> so i have to play through the terminal?
[07:06] <NeuralSlice> hey, I'm having a problem configuring my Wifi in Kubuntu. When I type iwconfig, the card is there...but I can't get it to connect to my network. I got it to connect in Ubuntu, but I would like to use Kubuntu.
[07:06] <GameOver> no way i can edit settings or anything?
[07:06] <Panzerboy> vircuser: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24695, maybe it helps
[07:07] <Panzerboy> GameOver: you can edit ~/.mplayer/config
[07:07] <GameOver> and do u know what i can edit to fix it?
[07:07] <Panzerboy> GameOver: see http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/506973
[07:08] <Panzerboy> that's my config file for mplayer
[07:08] <GameOver> and this gives u fullscreen
[07:08] <GameOver> with the video
[07:09] <_johnflux> GameOver: if you edit /etc/mplayer/config  or ~/mplayer/config   it should be obvious where to add the vo=vx  or -vo xv
[07:10] <en1gma> what are the system requirements for ubuntu and kububtu as far as ram goes when using the live cds
[07:10] <_johnflux> s/vx/xv/
[07:12] <NeuralSlice> Does anyone know why in the Ubuntu LiveCD, my Wifi works as expected, but when I try and configure WIfi on the Kubuntu LiveCD, it doesn't work? (iwconfig recognizes the card in both setups)
[07:13] <GameOver> alright ill give it a shot.... hey PANZERBOY.... i still dont see the screen size 1280x1024 in display
[07:13] <GameOver> i added it in the config file u told me to
[07:15] <nlindblad> hello
[07:21] <Snake__> en1gma, you still here?
[07:35] <simlu> hi!
[07:36] <simlu> I need some help with swat/samba...
[07:36] <simlu> can anyone help me?
[07:38] <__StarScream> simlu: ask the question and we may
[07:38] <__StarScream> we don't know if we can help till we hear the question
[07:38] <`Nomad> no sigh-kicks hear
[07:38] <`Nomad> :P
[07:43] <simlu> the question is: how to configure my box to connect to swat on localhost:901
[07:44] <simlu> I think everything is properly configured in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf
[07:44] <simlu> inetd is running, and still it doesn't connect when I try in my browser
[07:46] <Distro^Junkie> how stable is dapper ?
[07:46] <Distro^Junkie> lol apache you here too ?
[07:46] <apachelogger> Distro^Junkie: of course
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> ok well then already got my answer
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> 33 minutes left to download dapper
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> bbiab
[07:48] <GameOver> is anyone good at configuring sound.... it seems that my hardware is found but wen u go into kmix... there are no devices or anything: i believe its treated as an unkown device
[07:50] <glick> hey when i plug in a firewire drive kubuntu sees it but doesnt give me permission to write to it?
[07:50] <simlu> gameover - do a cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:51] <glick> it makes a desktop icon and all
[07:51] <glick> but it doesnt give me write access?
[07:51] <glick> wtf is that all about?
[07:51] <GameOver> simlu - ok let me boot up the other pc and check it out
[07:52] <GameOver> simlu - now i type that into terminal?
[07:52] <simlu>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[07:52] <simlu> err
[07:53] <simlu> gameover - yes
[07:53] <GameOver> ok one sec :)
[07:53] <glick> what the hell?
[07:53] <glick> does anyone know how it gets the permission and ownership of the user that mounts the device
[07:54] <Blippe> kdesu or sudo
[07:54] <GameOver> Simlu - no such file or directory
[07:55] <glick> ?
[07:55] <simlu> gameover - ok, so it means that your card hasn't been detected by the alsa driver
[07:55] <GameOver> simlu - ok... so then what can i do
[07:56] <simlu> gameover - do you know what soundcard you have?
[07:57] <GameOver> simlu - i believe its by rockwell international
[07:58] <simlu> gameover - ok, let me check something
[07:58] <GameOver> simlu - thats what i saw when i type in lspci
[07:58] <glick> my firewire drive works perfectly on the ubuntu desktop
[07:58] <GameOver> simlu - ok thanks
[07:58] <glick> stands to reason it should work perfectly in kde too no?
[07:59] <jariep1___> how do I execute the B.U.M. Boot Up Manager from a shell?
[07:59] <jariep1___> it freezes up on me everytime i execute it
[08:01] <glick> no one has that problem with firewire?
[08:07] <sweet_kate> helo
[08:07] <sweet_kate> hello
[08:08] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:10] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:12] <simlu> gameover?
[08:12] <_drgnmyst> Im no expert but in the synaptic package manager you can add columns and then sort the packages by those colums
[08:13] <GameOver> simlu - yes
[08:13] <GameOver> sorry it wont let me type back to u
[08:13] <_drgnmyst> sweet_kate: two of those columns are 'installed version' and 'installed size'
[08:13] <simlu> gameover - ok
[08:14] <GameOver> simlu - so how can i get this to work... im a newb when it comes to this... so all your help is appreciated
[08:15] <sweet_kate> _drgnmyst: i ve not that column
[08:15] <sweet_kate> !
[08:15] <ubotu> sweet_kate: What?
[08:16] <simlu> gameover - you're using kubuntu I guess? :)
[08:17] <GameOver> simlu - yes
[08:18] <simlu> gameover - can you type uname -r in your console and tell me the output
[08:19] <Ilokaasu> weedar: u there ?
[08:20] <tmircea> u>u>u>
[08:20] <GameOver> simlu - 2.6.12-10-386
[08:22] <GameOver> simlu - ok
[08:23] <GameOver> simlu - ok
[08:25] <simlu> gameover - okay, start adept and download linux-source-2.6.12
[08:26] <GameOver> simlu - ok one sec
[08:27] <GameOver> simlu - ok downloading.. now what does this do
[08:28] <_drgnmyst> sweet_kate at the top do you see settings?
[08:28] <sweet_kate> yes
[08:28] <sweet_kate> i solved
[08:28] <sweet_kate> tnx
[08:28] <_drgnmyst> ok,, np i was afk doing dishes
[08:29] <sweet_kate> how can i unistall ooo? selecting one package
[08:29] <sweet_kate> ?
[08:30] <GameOver> simlu?
[08:31] <GameOver> simlu - its still downloading
[08:33] <GameOver> simlu - when its done, where should i uncompress it to?
[08:33] <GameOver> simlu - and doesnt adept do that for u?
[08:34] <simlu> gameover - no, adept will only put it in /usr/src
[08:34] <GameOver> simlu ok
[08:36] <simlu> gameover - do you have an msn account or something?
[08:38] <GameOver> simlu i have yahoo and aim
[08:39] <GameOver> i think imight have an msn account too
[08:39] <simlu> gameover - tha's okay with yahoo
[08:49] <hacktarus> hi
[08:49] <hacktarus> i have one question please
[08:49] <hacktarus> how can i do , for install Mplayer
[08:50] <hacktarus> in Kubuntu, i download Redhat Package Or other??!!
[08:50] <hacktarus> thanx
[08:51] <Blippe> hacktarus, download the mplayer found in synaptic
[08:51] <Blippe> !synaptic
[08:51] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:51] <larsivi> hacktarus: or adept
[08:51] <larsivi> !adept
[08:51] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[08:51] <Blippe> damit, wrong channel!
[08:52] <hacktarus> ok
[08:52] <Blippe> hacktarus, scrap my previos statement! Download mplayer with adept!
[08:52] <hacktarus> i try
[08:52] <hacktarus> thanx
[08:53] <mehmet> is tehere anybody having 64 bit amd processor and x550 ati radeon graphic card and succeed in installing grap. car driver
[08:54] <Blippe> will kubuntu have a instller like the ubuntu "add application" in dapper?
[08:54] <tictric> sorry, got nvidia
[08:55] <mehmet> else
[08:57] <knoppix> hi guys.. i made a mess..
[08:57] <knoppix> i was trying to install windows on a USB2 HD, and at the reboot two things happens now: window give me blue screen after rebooting and MBR have been flashed by windows..
[08:58] <knoppix> i tried to use grub-install /dev/hda but it's not working :(
[08:58] <_mike> hey how can i manually delete/remove files from theterminal that are read only
[08:58] <knoppix> any idea of why? i am executing it from knoppix
[08:58] <knoppix> sudo before rm
[08:59] <_mike> so its sudo rm filename
[08:59] <knoppix> yes
[09:00] <knoppix> can anyone help me please!! this is a crisis!!
[09:00] <Nard> sure it is
[09:00] <knoppix> :(
[09:00] <knoppix> any idea why grub-install /dev/hda tells me Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:00] <gmitchel> can i get some help with ndiswrapper?
[09:01] <knoppix> ??
[09:01] <knoppix> helP!
[09:01] <gmitchel> ndiswrapper -l shows my drivers are on there... lsmod shows ndiswrapper is loaded, but iwconfig and ifconfig don't show wlan0
[09:01] <mullen> ???
[09:02] <_mike> it wontletme delete the directory knoppix
[09:04] <knoppix> _mike, i think that is because that is a directory created by the cdrom of knoppix, you can't delete a cdrom with "rm" :)
[09:04] <simlu> gmitchel - check if prism54 is loaded (lsmod
[09:04] <simlu> lsmod | grep prism
[09:05] <knoppix> please........ :( help me :(
[09:05] <_mike> knoppix - so how do i get rid of it...its my ndiswrapper directory
[09:05] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[09:05] <tvo> knoppix: you using sata or ide? for sata it might be /dev/sda
[09:05] <tvo> knoppix: also, maybe you need grubs numbering of harddisks (hd0 hd1 etc.)
[09:06] <knoppix> ide..
[09:06] <knoppix> let me try to use grubs numbering.. maybe it will work
[09:06] <tvo> and make sure it's a root terminal
[09:07] <knoppix> i execute it with sudo
[09:07] <tvo> should work too
[09:07] <gmitchel> everytime i cllick the admin mode button and put in my passowrd, it won't open up admin mode
[09:07] <gmitchel> any ideas?
[09:07] <_mike> knoppix: how can i get rid of the directory?
[09:07] <knoppix> reboot.. sometimes it happens
[09:08] <knoppix> mhh.. i don't really know what are you doing.. why do you have that knoppix directory?
[09:08] <knoppix> to remove a directory you have to use rmdir (empty dir) or rm -r DIRNAME
[09:08] <simlu> gmitchel - do a sudo kcontrol instead
[09:08] <gmitchel> ok
[09:08] <knoppix> gmitchel, more than sometimes :)
[09:09] <knoppix> or better, not reboot, restart KDE
[09:09] <knoppix> ctrl - alt - backspac
[09:09] <gmitchel> ndiswrapper is absolutely killin me here
[09:09] <_mike> thanks
[09:09] <simlu> gmitchel - did you try what I told you?
[09:10] <gmitchel> didn't see prism54
[09:10] <gmitchel> can i do modprobe prism54?
[09:11] <simlu> gmitchel - no
[09:11] <GameOver> simlu: what happened
[09:12] <simlu> gameover - I don't know, are you still on yahoo?
[09:12] <GameOver> yeah
[09:12] <GameOver> i saw u were typing and that was the end of it
[09:12] <simlu> gmitchel - ndiswrapper doesn't work really well with prism54
[09:12] <gmitchel> simlu - so if prism54 doesn't load, im good?
[09:13] <simlu> gmitchel - yes, it is supposed to work
[09:13] <simlu> gmitchel - iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't work?
[09:14] <simlu> maybe try to rmmod ndiswrapper, and modprobe it again
[09:14] <gmitchel> simlu- "interface doesn't support scanning"
[09:15] <GameOver> simlu you gonna go back on yahoo?
[09:15] <simlu> gameover - i'm talking to you on yahoo
[09:15] <GameOver> simlu - i dont see u
[09:16] <gmitchel> simlu - didn't work... still not showinf wlan0
[09:17] <simlu> hmm
[09:17] <simlu> gmitchel - are you sure your card is plugged in? :)
[09:19] <gmitchel> simlu - works in my windows boot
[09:20] <simlu> and when you do ndiswrapper -l, it says driver present, hardware present?
[09:22] <gmitchel> simlu - bamwl5 driver rpesent, hardware present
[09:25] <Andreas_> hi guys, I just installed kubuntu dapper on my stationary - everything seems to work fin except the resolution which is stuck on 649x480 - kdm and kde starts with it and kde won't let me change it
[09:25] <Andreas_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detects the available modes just fine
[09:25] <Andreas_> and they are all available in the xorg.conf file
[09:25] <Andreas_> where should I start?
[09:25] <m_tadeu> hi...how do I change the font size when running applications as root
[09:26] <gmitchel> simlu - how do i check version number of ndiswrapper?
[09:26] <tictric> dpkg -l ndiswrapper
[09:26] <Ilokaasu> my cdrom does not open, eject wont help..any ideas ?
[09:26] <kethinov> hi all, i've been trying to install redhat-artwork various ways. through apt, by alien'ing the rpm from fedora.redhat.com, and other ways. every time i try, the QT portion of the install silently fails--the bluecurve style doesn't show up in kcontrol. no errors... what's wrong?
[09:28] <_mehmet> oo
[09:28] <m_tadeu> Ilokaasu: umount /media/cdrom
[09:29] <GameOver> hey guys i have an issue with my wireless.... i can always get it to work... i have ndiswrapper installed and have it to run at boot.... but in order to get it tow or  k
[09:30] <GameOver> i always have to go into the terminal and use dhclient
[09:30] <GameOver> is there anyway i can just get tjhis to work from the get go
[09:31] <m_tadeu> how do I change the font size for applications running with sudo?
[09:31] <larsivi> GameOver: You probably have to add/change something in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:32] <GameOver> larsivi: do u know what... i added ndiswrapper
[09:32] <GameOver> as stated
[09:33] <darkkish_box> hey
[09:33] <larsivi> GameOver: Do you have a lan adapter on eth0 as your primary interface?
[09:33] <darkkish_box> can someone help me
[09:33] <larsivi> possibly, darkkish_box
[09:33] <GameOver> larsivi: i have one... but i dont know if its the primary
[09:33] <darkkish_box> all i need is a win98 bootdisk so i can fdisk the mbr and get grub off my computer so i can boot to windows
[09:34] <darkkish_box> >.<
[09:34] <larsivi> darkkish_box: grub can boot windows
[09:34] <darkkish_box> i get an error when i try to start up
[09:34] <darkkish_box> error 15 or something like that
[09:34] <larsivi> GameOver: is both eth0 and eth1 (or wlan0) set up in your interfaces file?
[09:35] <darkkish_box> ewwwwww >.< i could never get wifi working in linux
[09:35] <darkkish_box> ever
[09:35] <GameOver>  The primary network interface
[09:35] <GameOver> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:35] <GameOver> 	# wireless-* options are implemented by the wireless-tools package
[09:35] <GameOver> 	wireless-mode managed
[09:35] <GameOver> thats whats in the interface file
[09:35] <larsivi> I use almost only wifi
[09:35] <GameOver> for primary
[09:36] <darkkish_box> larsivi, my grub is broken when i formatted my linux partition now i cant boot to windows i really need to know how to fdisk the mbr
[09:36] <darkkish_box> is there a way to do it in knoppix?
[09:36] <larsivi> probably, knoppix is great :=)
[09:36] <darkkish_box> do you know how?
[09:36] <larsivi> nope
[09:36] <darkkish_box> >.<
[09:37] <larsivi> My grub works fine, (and for Windows too)
[09:37] <darkkish_box> yeah but you didnt format your linux partition
[09:37] <darkkish_box> did you
[09:37] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box: take your xp cd put it in your bootable drive then let it load till it gives you the options then hit #2
[09:37] <GameOver> larsivi: so how would i go around fixing this so my wlan0 works without me having to type dhclient all the time
[09:37] <larsivi> hmm, no, I thought better of it ;)
[09:37] <darkkish_box> i dont know where my XP cd is :-/
[09:37] <Distro^Junkie> lol you outta luck then
[09:38] <larsivi> GameOver: I'm not really sure, I have to use dhclient if I use my ethernet plug
[09:38] <darkkish_box> where can i get a windows 98 startup disk
[09:38] <larsivi> GameOver: since wlan is my primary
[09:38] <en1gma> hi all i got a couple questions. i have been using DSL as my live cd distro for quite sometime...i just tried slax and its good but i have to adj to many settings after boot. im thinking bout getting kubuntu or knoppix next. what i like to know is when either of those are booted are you default root and how is konq setup
[09:38] <Distro^Junkie> doesn't work the same darkkish_box
[09:38] <GameOver> larsivi: so if i change the text to wlan0 from eth0 it should work?
[09:38] <larsivi> darkkish_box: win98 startup disks aren't the most usual tool around here ;)
[09:38] <darkkish_box> distro i have donw it before
[09:38] <en1gma> i would like to be able to go straight into xchat without creating a new user
[09:39] <darkkish_box> i did it before it should work..
[09:39] <darkkish_box> i hate xchat
[09:39] <darkkish_box> if i didnt have to use it right now i wouldnt
[09:39] <en1gma> that wasnt my Q
[09:39] <darkkish_box> lol
[09:39] <darkkish_box> sorry
[09:39] <en1gma> :)
[09:39] <larsivi> GameOver: you need to make sure all parties know the name of the interface, if ndiswrapper thinks it is wlan0, then interfaces must too
[09:40] <en1gma> when i get to desktop i dont want to have to configure alot of settings...i can handle a couple but not more then that
[09:40] <GameOver> but there are lines in the interfaces referencing wlan0
[09:40] <en1gma> so when kubuntu boots up to kde are you root or user
[09:41] <GameOver> user
[09:41] <en1gma> sweet
[09:41] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box:
[09:41] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[09:41] <en1gma> what kernel and what version of kde is now on the kubuntu iso live cd i dload
[09:42] <larsivi> GameOver: run "dmesg | grep 'eth0'" to find out what sets to eth0
[09:42] <en1gma> does kubuntu have an apt-get or similar
[09:42] <larsivi> GameOver: on my system this is the ethernetcard
[09:43] <larsivi> en1gma: yes
[09:43] <en1gma> kernel, kde and apt-get....whats up with that
[09:43] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box: how do you use a 98 boot disk to repair the mbr on xp ?
[09:43] <larsivi> en1gma: and the frontend is called adept
[09:43] <larsivi> !adept
[09:43] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[09:43] <darkkish_box> you boot to dos
[09:43] <darkkish_box> and use fdisk /mbr
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294677.765000]  e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xd0204000, irq 11, MAC addr 00:06:1B:CA:C3:58
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294716.293000]  eth0: New link status: Connected (0001)
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294737.093000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[09:43] <en1gma> larsivi ok what about the iso what kernel and what version of kde
[09:44] <Distro^Junkie> what filesystem was your xp in ?
[09:44] <GameOver> thats what it says larsivi
[09:44] <larsivi> en1gma: I think the kernel is about 2.6.12-10
[09:44] <en1gma> and kde 3.5?
[09:44] <larsivi> en1gma: I think you must update to get 3.5, Breezy was released just before KDE 3.5
[09:45] <darkkish_box> it doesnt matter
[09:45] <larsivi> en1gma: Maybe there are Dapper Flight live cd's though
[09:45] <darkkish_box> but ntfs
[09:45] <darkkish_box> fuck
[09:45] <darkkish_box> i dont have  a working floppy drive
[09:45] <darkkish_box> >.< im getting really annoyyed
[09:45] <darkkish_box> im running linux on this one so i cant use the exe
[09:46] <en1gma> yea i think i gonna grab a dapper if it comes with kde 3.5
[09:46] <larsivi> GameOver: then that means that your system tries to find and ip-adress for eth0, instead of your wlan0
[09:46] <en1gma> is dapper cds like "current"
[09:46] <GameOver> larsivi: ok... so what do i do to fix this :)
[09:46] <Distro^Junkie> en1gma: it does
[09:46] <larsivi> GameOver: hmm, my interfaces look like this
[09:47] <larsivi> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[09:47] <larsivi>         wireless-mode managed
[09:48] <larsivi>         wireless-essid SSID
[09:48] <en1gma> where is dapper iso
[09:48] <en1gma> im at kubuntu.org
[09:48] <larsivi> Read more
[09:49] <GameOver> should i just edit the eth1 to wlan0?
[09:49] <larsivi> GameOver: If your system otherwise is equal to mine, yes (and your ndiswrapper sets up wlan0)
[09:49] <GameOver> yes
[09:49] <GameOver> ok i will give it a try
[09:49] <larsivi> GameOver: At least I think so, I'm not expert
[09:50] <en1gma> it takes along time for dapper to load and its text only?
[09:50] <larsivi> en1gma: ?
[09:50] <en1gma> This system should ultimately end up
[09:50] <en1gma> being faster and more visually pleasing than the one in Ubuntu 5.10, but
[09:50] <en1gma> at the moment it's text-only, spews a lot of error messages, and
[09:50] <en1gma> includes long delays with no progress
[09:50] <GameOver> i have another question... when i setup kubuntu... for screen resolution i accidently pressed enter instead of space so that it would include 1280x1024 resolution.... now my highest resolution in display is 1024*whatever
[09:51] <GameOver> what can i do to get that 1280x1024 resolution
[09:51] <en1gma> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-December/060506.html
[09:51] <darkkish_box> lcd
[09:52] <larsivi> GameOver: I have no idea, I have 1280x1024, but my screen supports 1400x1050, but those silly Intel folks only give access to the mode through their Windows drivers
[09:52] <GameOver> alright... and my final question on my brothers computer... i cant get the sound to work
[09:52] <GameOver> it sees that theres somethin there... but its an unknown device
[09:55] <newbie_> gameover in order to get the resolution for your monitor two 1280x1024 you must change the setting in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[09:55] <GameOver> newbie: what setting do i change
[09:56] <en1gma> where do i get flight cd2
[09:57] <Distro^Junkie> kubuntu.org
[09:58] <Distro^Junkie> read the page starting at the first news
[09:59] <GameOver> newbie?
[09:59] <Distro^Junkie> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html   <---- dapper
[10:00] <en1gma> thnx
[10:02] <tdmg> hey, someone know about keyboard settings that could help me?
[10:04] <Andreas_> tdmg what's the problem
[10:05] <tdmg> well
[10:06] <tdmg> I want to turn my "`~" key into an extra shift key
[10:06] <tdmg> how do I do that?
[10:07] <tdmg> I'm looking through the Keyboard Layout section
[10:07] <tdmg> but I can't find it
[10:07] <tdmg> Andreas_?
[10:08] <GameOver> anyone think they can help me with sound problems?
[10:08] <Andreas_> tdmg, no clue, sorry
[10:08] <tdmg> okay
[10:08] <tdmg> thanks anyway :)
[10:09] <larsivi> GameOver: no, I've given enough for now ;)
[10:09] <GameOver> lol
[10:09] <GameOver> oh come on larsivi :)
[10:09] <tdmg> larsivi, can you help me? :)
[10:09] <GameOver> dont make me go back to windows!
[10:09] <larsivi> GameOver: seriously, what's the problem?
[10:10] <tdmg> we aren't making you do anything :P
[10:10] <GameOver> well like i said sound doesnt work... no devices or loadedinto kmix, nothin
[10:10] <larsivi> tdmg: I know next to nothing on keyboard setup
[10:10] <GameOver> but i do a listing of pci devices... i see my soundcard there... but its listed as an uknown device
[10:10] <tdmg> okay
[10:10] <MrJangles> hey, does anyone use any anti virus software for ubuntu?
[10:10] <larsivi> GameOver: what soundcard do you have?
[10:11] <larsivi> MrJangles: AV? must be Clam, then
[10:11] <GameOver> Larsivi: Rockwell international.... i believe
[10:11] <MrJangles> Clam is the software?
[10:11] <isodude> Hey
[10:11] <larsivi> GameOver: are any sound modules loaded at boot?
[10:12] <GameOver> larsivi: no clue my friend... complete newb here
[10:12] <larsivi> MrJangles: ClamAV, but I'm not sure how to use it
[10:12] <MrJangles> ty thats fine
[10:12] <isodude> If I want a application to read text in english audio that is free. What should I search for?
[10:12] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:13] <larsivi> isodude: There is some KDE app, don't remember the name
[10:14] <tdmg> guys, I'm trying to input the Shift command, what is the command name for SHIFT?
[10:14] <larsivi> GameOver: try the command lsmod and see if you see anything sound related (I know the names can be cryptic...)
[10:14] <GameOver> ok
[10:14] <larsivi> GameOver: They usually start with snd_
[10:15] <GameOver> ok ill check it out
[10:16] <GameOver> larsivi: i dont see anything
[10:16] <larsivi> GameOver: anything at all, or just not snd_ stuff?
[10:17] <GameOver> larsivi not snd_stuff
[10:17] <larsivi> GameOver: you might have a seriously unstandard soundcard, then...
[10:18] <en1gma> kubuntu comes with xchat right
[10:18] <GameOver> larsivi: probably
[10:18] <GameOver> larsivi: its one that came in my hp pavilion
[10:18] <isodude> larsivi: remember!!
[10:18] <isodude> right now!!
[10:21] <larsivi> isodude: check out ksayit, kmouth and konq-speaker (read the about using adept)
[10:21] <wotnarg> Is there a way to select only a certain type of file in konq?
[10:21] <GameOver> larsivi: so what can i do to get it working then?
[10:23] <isodude> larsivi: I will! Thanks!!
[10:23] <isodude> You are super!
[10:24] <glick> hello all
[10:24] <glick> excuse me i just installed kubuntu but my firewire drive still wont mount correctly when i plug it in
[10:24] <glick> does anyone have any idea how i can get my firewire drive to automount correctly when i plug it in?
[10:24] <glick> it used to work perfectly in ubuntu
[10:25] <larsivi> GameOver: Your sound chip is probably most oftenly referred to as Riptide
[10:25] <slawek> does KERIO work  on kubuntu ?
[10:26] <GameOver> larsivi: ok sounds familiar
[10:26] <larsivi> GameOver: and that drivers are difficult to get by, at least without some kernel rebuilding
[10:26] <glick> anyone?
[10:26] <en1gma> does kubuntu flight 2 pickup a wifi remote access paoint router upon boot
[10:26] <en1gma> flight 2 live cd
[10:27] <GameOver> larsivi: i was reading about that.....  anyway u can help... ive actualy downloaded linux source 2.6.... etc
[10:27] <GameOver> can u help me do whatever i need to to get it working... if u have the time of course
[10:28] <larsivi> GameOver: check out the ubuntu notes at the bottom of this page: http://www.opensound.com/linux-x86.html
[10:28] <glick> anyone?
[10:28] <glick> damn
[10:28] <larsivi> GameOver: I'm going to bed now, sorry, not feeling to well
[10:28] <en1gma> larsivi does kubuntu flight 2 live cd  pickup a wifi remote access paoint router upon boot
[10:29] <GameOver> larsivi: ok it looks like it has support for riptide... so i just have to download something?
[10:29] <larsivi> en1gma: don't entirely understand the question, but I think you must go via KWifiManager or similar
[10:29] <glick> anyone have a firewire drive ?
[10:29] <larsivi> GameOver: Seems like it, and recompile the kernel...
[10:29] <glick> or usb drive?
[10:29] <larsivi> glick: sorry, no
[10:29] <larsivi> glick: usb, yes
[10:30] <glick> when you plug it in it works?
[10:30] <en1gma> well like for ex: DSL upon boot i have instant access through router through a cat5 cable (on this computer) but i have a laptop that i will use kubuntu on to and its wifi
[10:30] <larsivi> glick: my usb drive works out of the box
[10:30] <en1gma> will it be ready upon boot
[10:30] <glick> wtf mine did too for the longest time
[10:31] <larsivi> en1gma: I don't think any wifi on any OS is accessible on first time boot without some manual choosing/setup of the access point/SSID
[10:31] <larsivi> en1gma: at least here in Norway, an open network don't mean it is legal to access it
[10:32] <larsivi> well, good luck en1gma, and good night
[10:39] <en1gma> k thnx
[10:40] <en1gma> larsivi this network is in this house...its just the ppl using it wont want to configure it everytime it boots
[10:41] <larsivi> en1gma: If you are going to use a live CD, it might be difficult
[10:43] <nuzzy> Hi all - Just tried Ubunutu after many other distros and it rocks!  Does the Kubuntu CD/DVD run the same as the Ubuntu install except use KDE as the default desktop?
[10:44] <andkore> hi
[10:44] <andkore> so how does the kubuntu package manager work?
[10:44] <andkore> i'm thinking about using kubuntu, to see what alternatives to slackware are
[10:44] <andkore> i like slack alot
[10:45] <andkore> i just want something new
[10:46] <andkore> lo?
[10:46] <nuzzy> join #ubuntu
[10:47] <andkore> why? i know its the same pkg manager
[10:47] <andkore> but i can ask here cant i?
[10:47] <glick> this blows
[10:47] <andkore> what does?
[10:48] <glick> kubuntu not mounting my firewire drive correctly when i plug it in
[10:48] <nuzzy> sorry...that was me trying to join ubuntu...I forgot the slash
[10:48] <andkore> lol
[10:49] <hugo> hello
[10:49] <andkore> lo
[10:49] <hugo> I have 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' no my ubuntu breezy-badger, now how do i start KDE instead of Gnome?
[10:49] <andkore> glick: you mean automatically?
[10:50] <hugo> when i start a new session i get both kde and gnome toolbars
[10:50] <andkore> ouch that sucks
[10:50] <hugo> and gnome programs still shows in menus
[10:50] <andkore> i know how in slack :/
[10:50] <glick> andkore: yeah
[10:50] <andkore> what session manager you using?
[10:50] <glick> kdm
[10:50] <nuzzy> hugo...at login, choose KDE under "Session"
[10:50] <andkore> glick: no i meant hugo
[10:50] <andkore> lol
[10:50] <hugo> nuzzy: I did
[10:50] <glick> oh
[10:51] <hugo> i'm using GDM
[10:51] <andkore> glick: does it do it at all?
[10:51] <hugo> looks like both gnome _and_ kde starts
[10:51] <nuzzy> did you say to set as default?
[10:51] <glick> andkore: if i go to /media/sda[1-3]  i can look at my files
[10:51] <glick> and read them
[10:51] <glick> but thats it
[10:51] <andkore> oh
[10:51] <andkore> no write
[10:51] <andkore> as root?
[10:52] <hugo> nuzzy: doesn't matter if it's default
[10:52] <andkore> yeah
[10:52] <glick> as root im sure i culd write to it
[10:52] <hugo> I just want to log in to X with KDE only :P
[10:52] <andkore> glick: you can change this methinks
[10:52] <glick> also it doesnt mount the icons on the desktop anymore
[10:52] <andkore> :/
[10:52] <glick> it bitches about errors
[10:52] <andkore> probably permissions
[10:52] <nuzzy> no, but that's what I thought you wanted
[10:53] <hugo> can't anyone help me?
[10:53] <andkore> dang, haven't used linux for a few months
[10:53] <andkore> trying to think
[10:53] <andkore> what about sudo?
[10:58] <EnglishStan> ello people
[10:58] <andkore> lo
[10:58] <EnglishStan> need help :D
[10:58] <EnglishStan> please?? :P
[10:59] <arrinmurr> EnglishStan: just tell what's your problem / ask your question
[10:59] <EnglishStan> I wanna replace Konquorer with FireFox, how would i go about it?
[11:01] <EnglishStan> ???
[11:01] <andkore> sry
[11:01] <hugo> wasn't there anyone here who could help me with my gnome/kde problem?
[11:03] <glick> something weird is goin on
[11:03] <andkore> yes... mr. obviousman :P
[11:04] <glick> in the ubuntu desktop my firewire drive mounts, it creates icons to it on the desktop, but i cant write to it, on kde it does neither, only error messages pop up
[11:05] <andkore> permissions!
[11:05] <andkore> theres some way to change it so reg. users can write
[11:07] <dell500> does gnupod work on kubuntu?
[11:07] <dell500> i suppose it does since gtkpod and stuff works...
[11:07] <andkore> dell500: dude
[11:07] <andkore> this is what linux is about :D
[11:07] <andkore> everything should work
[11:10] <dell500> lol, good call andkore
[11:12] <dell500> well i just downloaded and burned the dvd for kubuntu :)
[11:12] <dell500> just gotta  backup everything..
[11:13] <EnglishStan> ello
[11:13] <EnglishStan> me again
[11:13] <EnglishStan> i'm on my linux machine now :D
[11:13] <EnglishStan> need to know how to install firefox :D
[11:14] <hugo> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:14] <hugo> sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[11:14] <irielion> i have a question... when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:14] <EnglishStan> where do i get that from? was no download section on there site for linux
[11:15] <irielion> EnglishStan: its packaged in ubuntu repositery
[11:15] <irielion> when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:15] <EnglishStan> and that means?
[11:16] <irielion> that you open the package manager adept, and search for mozilla-firefox
[11:16] <irielion> or you open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:16] <irielion> it aint that hard
[11:16] <dell500> hugo, why remove konqueror?
[11:16] <irielion> yes dont remove konqueror
[11:16] <irielion> kde needs it
[11:16] <dell500> ya
[11:16] <dell500> for browsing folders and stuff
[11:16] <irielion> dell500: did you read my question
[11:17] <dell500> nope
[11:17] <irielion> when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:17] <EnglishStan> so at the run command, i type sudo??
[11:17] <irielion> yes
[11:17] <irielion> the EXACT line as stated before
[11:17] <dell500> EnglishStan: type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[11:17] <EnglishStan> nothing happens,,the box disappeared
[11:17] <dell500> without the ' '
[11:18] <EnglishStan> ah i see
[11:18] <dell500> i loath fresh installs, have to back everything up and make sure you don't forget anything...
[11:18] <EnglishStan> nothing happened
[11:18] <irielion> dell500: have you read the Q now?
[11:18] <irielion> EnglishStan: then use Adept like i told you
[11:18] <arrinmurr> EnglishStan: type konsole, press enter, and type the command there
[11:19] <dell500> irielion: that's kinda a statement, but you wanna make it so it doesn't open it but just prompt you for a selection/
[11:19] <dell500> what's adept?
[11:19] <irielion> dell500: yes exactly
[11:19] <bimberi> !adept
[11:19] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[11:19] <dell500> google it, it's prolly a bug somewhere
[11:20] <dell500> so pretty much it's a apt-get kinda thing or synaptic
[11:20] <bimberi> dell500: yep :)
[11:20] <dell500> neat...
[11:20] <dell500> gonna have to get used to that
[11:20] <DjDarkman> hy ,what is artsd?
[11:20] <EnglishStan> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:20] <EnglishStan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:20] <EnglishStan> is only available from another source
[11:20] <irielion> sound manager for kde
[11:20] <EnglishStan> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[11:20] <EnglishStan> sorry
[11:20] <en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up
[11:21] <dell500> EnglishStan: you might need to edit the repositories
[11:21] <irielion> englishstan, check howto on ubuntu help pages about that
[11:21] <EnglishStan> ah crap
[11:21] <dell500> i don't remeber how to do that lol
[11:21] <irielion> ADEPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:21] <EnglishStan> i only just install kubuntu too
[11:21] <EnglishStan> first time ever
[11:21] <en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up
[11:21] <irielion> EnglishStan: ow i didnt know that ;)
[11:21] <dell500> :)
[11:21] <en1gma> help
[11:21] <DjDarkman> what is artsd?
[11:22] <irielion> DjDarkman: i just told you!
[11:22] <en1gma> uninstall artsd its a pos
[11:22] <matt_> Hi!
[11:22] <irielion> DjDarkman: sound manager for kde
[11:22] <DjDarkman> ohh i didn`t see
[11:22] <irielion> okay
[11:22] <en1gma> come on guys i cant connect to net. why dont kubuntu daper flight 2 (live cd) connect me to net upon bootup
[11:23] <en1gma> dsl does it automatically
[11:23] <irielion> because its a beta release
[11:23] <DjDarkman> irielion: does something happen if i kill it?
[11:23] <en1gma> does kubuntu (stable) connect to net upon bootup
[11:23] <irielion> there must be 2 kubuntu channels, one for newbies and the other for more experienced users
[11:23] <irielion> DjDarkman: yes... it dies and restarts automatically
[11:24] <DjDarkman> but how can i kill it permantly?
[11:24] <irielion> DjDarkman: But if you disable it, all the programs that rely on it will not function no more
[11:24] <en1gma> ok i cant connect to net wtf do i do
[11:24] <irielion> DjDarkman: why do you want to kill him?
[11:25] <DjDarkman> coz the sound in cedega isn`t functioning well
[11:25] <en1gma> artsd in kde 3.5 is screwed up trust me
[11:25] <arrinmurr> irielion: so that the experienced users wouldn't be there to help the newbies? ;)
[11:25] <en1gma> uninstall artsd
[11:25] <irielion> arrinmurr: but they could be in both
[11:25] <en1gma> and disable the kde sound system
[11:25] <irielion> artsd in 3.5 works fine
[11:25] <irielion> i use it in cedega aswell
[11:25] <arrinmurr> irielion: they _could_, but they wouldn't
[11:26] <en1gma> artsd is so screwed the ppl who make kde say art will not be included in kde 4.0
[11:26] <arrinmurr> irielion: and there's #kubuntu-offtopic anyway
[11:26] <irielion> yes artsd should be replaced
[11:26] <en1gma> artsd is a pos
[11:26] <irielion> use esd or somethin
[11:26] <en1gma> espicially if you have an nvidia chipset
[11:27] <en1gma> i unstall artsd and disable kde sound system and use kmix as my mixer and all works fine
[11:28] <irielion> however i jump out... all these irc stuff makes me nuts, havent done it in a long time...
[11:28] <irielion> aint no nerd nomore :)
[11:28] <en1gma> ok now ive helped how about some help for me
[11:28] <en1gma> i cant connect to net with kubuntu daper flight2 live cd
[11:28] <en1gma> what do i need to do
[11:29] <en1gma> using onboard nic and connected to router by lan cord
[11:30] <dell500> does anyone here know how to make the ipod not readonly
[11:30] <arafel> has anyone else had auto[make|conf]  problems with kubuntu? I've been trying to build mutt, and everything keeps giving me grief.
[11:30] <en1gma> I CANT CONNECT TO NET CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FOR GODS SAKE
[11:31] <arafel> en1gma: anyone likely is going to need more details before they can
[11:31] <dell500> lol en1gma !
[11:35] <en1gma> i just gave every detail you could want
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up"
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> using onboard nic and connected to router by lan cord "
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> dsl does it automatically"
[11:37] <en1gma> what other info is needed
[11:37] <e_machinist> Are there any Kubuntu or KDE related repositories, not listed in the wiki?
[11:37] <fusionfox> how do i change the apt resources data?
[11:38] <dell500> en1gma: that's kinda broad, maybe the lancard isn't installed correctly or something
[11:38] <arafel> en1gma: you don't get an IP address issued? it can't see the card? you can see the card and get an IP, but can't ping? can't resolve?
[11:38] <en1gma> DSL works perfect
[11:38] <arafel> DSL being...?
[11:38] <en1gma> the card is seen with ifconfig -a but no ip address issued
[11:38] <en1gma> damn small linux
[11:38] <dell500> en1gma: did you try renewing it in console?
[11:39] <en1gma> i tried ifconfig eth0 up but it wont let me cause im not root
[11:39] <dell500> I'm not too familar with the breezy kde setup, i'm on gnome
[11:39] <en1gma> i dont know root password
[11:39] <fusionfox> how do i change the apt sources FILE people cant anyone take 3 secs and answer me!
[11:39] <dell500> oh.
[11:39] <dell500> well look up the live cd password or something on google
[11:40] <arafel> en1gma: live CD has no root password. "sudo bash".
[11:40] <en1gma> this is crazy it dont work upon boot
[11:40] <arafel> fusionfox: edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:40] <en1gma> i was trying the daper flight2 maybe its too beta how about just regular kubuntu does it work upon boot
[11:40] <arafel> fusionfox: please note you'll get a better response from people if you're polite.
[11:41] <fusionfox> lol xP i asked polite
[11:41] <fusionfox> and no one answer
[11:41] <fusionfox> i say bad things
[11:41] <fusionfox> and i got answers fomr every chat
[11:41] <fusionfox> =D
[11:41] <fusionfox> even the dpkg answered me =P
[11:41] <arafel> you asked right after joining, then complained 2 minutes later because nobody answer.
[11:41] <en1gma> this kubuntu live cd isnt for me (sure i can configure everything) but the person i giving the cd to can not
[11:42] <arafel> en1gma: try the breezy one instead, maybe?
[11:42] <en1gma> daper breezy?
[11:42] <arrinmurr> en1gma: is he/she going to use it as a live cd or install it on hd?
[11:42] <en1gma> how does the order go? kubuntu official release then daper flight 2 (for current) then breezy = what
[11:42] <en1gma> live cd only
[11:43] <arafel> breezy is the previous stable release.
[11:43] <arafel> sorry, previous == current
[11:43] <arrinmurr> en1gma: i think knoppix might be better choise then
[11:43] <en1gma> oh so it goes kubuntu official release then breezy = current then daper flight2 = testing?
[11:43] <arrinmurr> en1gma: unless there's something kubuntu-specific that's needed
[11:44] <en1gma> oh ok yea i wasnt sure which live cd to go with...ive tried DSL, slax and now lubuntu
[11:44] <arafel> en1gma: the kubuntu official release is breezy. :-)
[11:44] <en1gma> kubuntu*
[11:44] <en1gma> ahhh
[11:45] <arafel> the latest ubuntu and kubuntu stable release is 5.10, breezy badger. the next release will be dapper drake, which is currently releasing "flight" (AKA testing) discs.
[11:45] <en1gma> does anyone with a similar hardware config as me know if breezy autoconfigs the network upon boot (NF2 with onboard lan) connected to router (cable) by lan cord
[11:45] <en1gma> i like kubuntu for this person but network has to be connected at DE
[11:46] <_christian> en1gma: Yes, it does, in most cases. Some types of onboard ethernet cards have trouble with [k] buntu
[11:46] <arafel> en1gma: I can't, I'm afraid; it tried to autoconf mine, but the network's protected and it didn't have the key.
[11:46] <arafel> once I gave it the key, it successfully autoconfigured, though.
[11:46] <en1gma> ah see this network needs no key
[11:47] <arafel> in that case, you'll probably be okay
[11:47] <en1gma> flight_master it loads the nic driver for it called forcedeth
[11:47] <en1gma> with breezy or are you running daper
[11:47] <en1gma> ahh ok maybe i need to go and try breezy if that dont work i think i will have to try knoppix or puppy linux
[11:48] <en1gma> im running out of live cds
[11:48] <en1gma> :)
[11:48] <arafel> knoppix is also good.
[11:48] <arafel> I believe my motherboard is also NF2, if that helps any.
[11:49] <en1gma> yea that does help
[11:49] <en1gma> you think i should waste my time dloading breezy or just go straight to knoppix
[11:49] <en1gma> it does take sometime to dload all this
[11:50] <en1gma> note the person this live cd is gonna be for has a system with only 256MB ram
[11:50] <mr-russ> breezy's live cd is very slow.
[11:50] <arafel> I've had no problems of that kind with either, to be honest.
[11:50] <arafel> "of that kind" == network problems.
[11:50] <arafel> the lack-of-key thing is a problem with the underlying tools.
[11:51] <en1gma> breezy boots slow to DE or is slow at DE
[11:52] <arafel> it's a hazard of live discs, particularly with limited amounts of RAM. Anything that's not cached they have to pull off CD.
[11:52] <arafel> I didn't notice the breezy live disc being particularly slower than any other I'd tried, but to be honest I didn't use it for long.
[11:52] <en1gma> mr-russ was saying breezy is slow but im wondering if he talks about it being slow upon boot or slow in KDE
[11:53] <mr-russ> both.
[11:53] <mr-russ> still spends lots of time using the CD.
[11:53] <en1gma> knoppix dont?
[11:53] <mr-russ> even after it's booted up.  Especially on a machine with limited (256mb) ram.
[11:54] <arafel> IME all live discs do, but...
[11:54] <en1gma> which one is better on system resources
[11:54] <arrinmurr> en1gma: i don't know about kubuntu livecd, but ubuntu livecd was in many ways much slower than knoppix
[11:54] <mr-russ> en1gma: less in my experience of using them both.
[11:54] <knubbe> how come i just got a menu option called "debian"? :-)
[11:55] <en1gma> i got 26% of breezy might as well just try it since im that far
[11:57] <houn> Quick Question: Kubuntu == Ubuntu with KDE by default, yes?  Any other significant differences?
[11:57] <arafel> houn: no
[11:57] <arafel> you can turn one into the other just by installing the appropriate package, as far as I'm aware. :)
[11:58] <houn> Cool.  I'll grab Kubuntu anyway to save a bit of time, then, hehe
[11:58] <arafel> (waits for people to pop up and correct him)
[11:58] <en1gma> is gnome better then kde on system resources such as ram
[11:58] <houn> The FAQ on the site doesn't mention anything else, but thought it safest to ask.
[11:58] <en1gma> ubuntu = gnome right?
[11:59] <houn> en1gma: In my personal experience, KDE tends to run better on my box, but I've got nothing hard to back that with.
[11:59] <arafel> en1gma: ubuntu is gnome by default, yes
[11:59] <suso> wenas
[11:59] <en1gma> see this system only has 256mb ram so i got to be carefull in choosing correct live cd distro....even DSL used almost all the ram even without KDE
[11:59] <en1gma> it used flux
[12:00] <arafel> en1gma: the RAM will all be used, but most of it will probably go in caches of various kinds.
[12:00] <arafel> generally you *want* the kernel to make active use of it all. :-)
[12:00] <en1gma> i might even have to check out ubuntu but god i like kde so much better
[12:00] <hawking> Does anyone know of any infrared configuration tools for kde?
[12:01] <arrinmurr> en1gma: at least knoppix runs fine on my machine, and i've got 256MB of ram
[12:01] <en1gma> on my amd64 box i issued the command "dsl toram" and it loads the whole thing into ram and i dont have to keep live cd in drive at all
[12:01] <arafel> dsl is, by definition, small.
[12:01] <en1gma> arrinmurr knoppix uses kde?
[12:01] <arrinmurr> en1gma: yeah, it has the k-sound, doesn't it ;)
[12:02] <en1gma> dsl is nice but i cant get it to come out right for some reason
[12:02] <suso> alguien que able espaol?
[12:02] <en1gma> yes it does dont it :)
[12:02] <en1gma> i thought the k was silent
[12:02] <juif> hello channel
[12:02] <en1gma> "K"-noppix now i get it
[12:02] <suso> hellow juif
[12:02] <en1gma> hiya
[12:02] <juif> i need help with JACK, ALSA and whatever i need to get Ardour running


[07:49] <Scary_Guy> https://wayforward.archive.org
[15:50] <goat-g> yeah, see also: https://twitter.com/IA2046
[15:50] <goat-g> oh, my nick
[15:50] <greg-g> (I see I disconnected/reconnected last night, not sure why)
[16:58] <jrwren> is that why FB is down too?
[16:59] <greg-g> hah
[16:59] <cmaloney> They have an issue with their primary DNS servers not resolving
[16:59] <cmaloney> so thousands of devices are asking "where's facebook?"


[00:06] <canthus13> Eh? Sorta like ksplice?
[00:07]  * canthus13 didn't know it was available for solaris...
[00:10] <Unit193> I Don't remember if it is...
[01:19] <jgould> Ok,  Next step is to try to fix this fracking trackpad
[01:45] <dmcglone1> Hiya all
[02:10] <Unit193> Welcome back
[02:11] <dmcglone1> :-) changed my fstab file and rebooted
[02:20] <TheErk> Howdy peeps
[02:20] <Unit193> Howdy TheErk!
[02:23] <Unit193> omgubuntu jumping the gun on shouting out Lubuntu 64bit... (Not really been tested and was supposed to be only for a few downloads...)
[02:25] <canthus13> omgubuntu jumps the gun on everything. It's a giant fanboy party.
[02:26] <Unit193> The "release" was put on the ML for BETA testers! And they didn't even say it was beta... Idiots...)
[02:52] <dmcglone1> anybody know how to use multi-touch in Ubuntu? I've installed utouch but can't figure out how to use the gestures
[02:53]  * canthus13 shows dmcglone1 a 'guesture' for ubuntu. ;)
[02:54] <dmcglone1> LOL how am I gonna use that finger?
[02:54] <dmcglone1> thats more like sign language for kubuntu
[02:54] <dmcglone1> ;-O
[02:56] <Unit193> Sign for Unity....
[02:56] <Unit193> Kubuntu is fine ;)
[02:56] <dmcglone1> I can agree with that Unit193
[02:59] <Unit193> I technically can't say that yet... (I still haven't gone masochist and used it...)
[03:00]  * Unit193 just setup Ubuntu One
[03:00] <canthus13> Speaking of distros... I should fire up backtrack 5 and check it out. :)
[03:02] <Unit193> canthus13: You could install that!
[03:02] <dmcglone1> I hope their distro is better than their website :-/
[03:09] <dmcglone1> what ya doing at the moment Unit193?
[03:10] <Unit193> Not much... Why do you ask?
[03:11] <dmcglone1> just wondering if you were doing anything exciting :-/
[03:11] <Unit193> TV show...
[03:12] <canthus13> Unit193: Nah. Ironically, it's rather insecure, what with always running as root..
[03:12] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Backtrack rocks, if you're into security testing.
[03:12] <Unit193> canthus13: I really need to learn to use it...
[03:13] <canthus13> Unit193: Check out Armitage. It's a nice way to get into vulnerability testing.
[03:14] <canthus13> It's part of metasploit.. a nice gui frontend with lots of neat project management and visualization features.
[03:15] <Unit193> I used BT to hack my wireless
[03:16] <canthus13> Unit193: that's the way to start. :)
[03:17] <canthus13> wait. wtf? Why isn't double-click working?
[03:17] <canthus13> Oh. weird. my doubleclick timeout was set to minimum.
[03:18] <Unit193> canthus13: Not really. I had an easy to follow guide to work it
[03:18] <dmcglone1> well when you backtrack, it usually goes back 1, so naturally that would be 1 click
[03:18] <dmcglone1> hehe
[03:19] <canthus13> Unit193: Most people do. you gotta start somewhere. :)
[03:19] <Unit193> dmcglone1: You should try it!
[03:20] <canthus13> dmcglone1: It tastes just like chicken!
[03:20] <BiosElement> Chicken? I want chicken!
[03:20] <BiosElement> >.>
[03:21] <Unit193> I'm eating chicken pizza...
[03:21] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:21]  * canthus13 entices BiosElement to eat the Backtrack chicken.
[03:21] <BiosElement> Hah
[03:23] <dmcglone1> I'll give it a look over tomorrow
[03:23]  * canthus13 installs it in a VM.
[03:23] <dmcglone1> thats what I'll do
[03:24] <canthus13> dmcglone1: can't do any wireless work inside a VM.. all the other toys are usable, though.
[03:24] <dmcglone1> Hmmm wonder why
[03:25] <canthus13> Because you can't directly access the wireless hardware from inside a VM.
[03:25] <canthus13> the VM presents it as a wired adapter.
[03:30] <dmcglone1> I see
[03:31] <dmcglone1> well I'm out all. g'night
[03:33] <canthus13> Unit193: Bah. the buttons are on the wrong side. :/
[03:34] <Unit193> Gaaa.... Like Ubuntu used to be....
[03:36] <canthus13> Err.. Ubuntu still is.
[03:36] <canthus13> Easy enough to correct, though. :)
[03:36] <canthus13> (It's based on Ubuntu)
[03:37] <Unit193> I know that part
[03:39] <canthus13> Geez... Takes forever to get through the last 1%.
[03:39] <jgould> i need to figure out how set up a vm on abigail
[03:40] <canthus13> install virtualbox.
[03:40] <Unit193> canthus13: I figured I should take a look at both KDE and Gnome version
[03:40] <canthus13> then set it up. it's fairly straightforward.
[03:40] <Unit193> +s
[03:40] <canthus13> teh KDE version sucks. it's KDE.
[03:40] <jgould> that woulkd be one way to do it... i need windows for a few things that i do...
[03:41]  * jgould likes LXDE
[03:41] <canthus13> jgould: vbox also has a seamless mode that puts the taskbar at the bottom of the screen inside linux, and allows the windows apps to somewhat mingle with the window manager windows.
[03:41] <Unit193> I would use all but the main Ubuntu (But I would give Gnome another shot)
[03:42] <jgould> i hated that mode in vmware
[03:42] <canthus13> Not sure if you can drag and drop between windows and linux apps in seamless mode...
[03:42] <canthus13> It's sometimes useful.
[03:44] <jgould> there is a UH in columbus this week?
[03:45] <canthus13> Dunno...
[03:46] <jgould> ill have to look at the calendar when i get home
[03:46] <jgould> i want to say its this week
[03:48] <Unit193> Next
[03:49] <jgould> ah  wont do me much good to show up this week then
[03:50] <Unit193> Wed, May 18, 6pm – 7pm
[03:51] <jgould> the time sounds right
[03:51] <Unit193> Ours is same day from 1700-1800
[03:52] <jgould> this milkshake is good
[03:55] <jgould> i want to go to a pure lxde envroment, but i dont want to break my system
[04:03] <canthus13> dmcglone: Eh? You again? Go to bed. :)
[04:13] <jgould> bed is good
[04:20] <jgould> i should go to bed at some point
[05:09] <Unit193> jgould: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde
[05:10] <Unit193> Nevermind....
[05:22] <BiosElement> Someone hand me a shotgun, I need to shoot the zope documentation writers, if I can find any.
[05:25] <Unit193> That bad, eh?
[05:26] <BiosElement> They feel the need to invent words with new and unique meanings and then add a few other words that mean the same thing
[05:26] <BiosElement> Then mix and match them any which way.
[05:28] <BiosElement> And of course, that's assuming docs were even written at all. In some cases a tutorial and maybe some API dos are the best you'll get.
[05:28] <BiosElement> And even then the tutorial's probably 5+ years old
[06:32] <jgould> I'm off to bed.  Night gang.
[06:34] <Unit193> Good luck!
[08:13] <Unit193> Howdy!
[08:13] <Cheri703> hi
[08:13] <BiosElement> Yo Cheri703, you better bring back cool junk :P
[08:13] <BiosElement> And hey Unit193, you suck
[08:13] <BiosElement> I thought you were asleep
[08:13]  * BiosElement kicks Unit193 out
[08:14] <BiosElement> >.>
[08:14] <Cheri703> ha, I've got a bunch of stickers and some pens
[08:14] <Unit193> Why would I be sleeping?? ;)
[08:14] <Cheri703> though I have to say, they're primarily for mansfield folks, you cbus people get all kinds of stuff, we are starving for swag up here ;)
[08:14] <BiosElement> hehe, I actually wouldn't have any swag if it wasn't for Jacob :P
[08:15]  * BiosElement thanks the ubuntu gods that Jacob doesn't like ballcaps
[08:15] <Cheri703> heh
[08:15] <Cheri703> I got my UDS shirt yesterday
[08:15] <BiosElement> Ahh cool
[08:19] <BiosElement> Sounds like you've been busy
[08:19] <Cheri703> yeah, I've been "dent"ing and posting to fb about it cheri703 on identi.ca :)
[08:19] <Cheri703> SUPER tiring, but awesome
[08:19] <Cheri703> learning SO FREEEEEEEEEEEAKING much
[08:20] <BiosElement> Hah, sounds like cons.
[08:21] <BiosElement> I cannot tell you how dead tired I am after getting to wherever I crash >.>
[08:23]  * Unit193 got kon-boot fully working on his flash!
[08:23] <BiosElement> Grats I think
[08:24] <Cheri703> yeah, but it's so cool. I'm learning a ton about some of the processes and discovering that there are some teams that I never knew existed
[08:26] <BiosElement> Awesome
[08:26] <Unit193> BiosElement: It can show you how insecure windows is
[08:26]  * Unit193 is reading the identi.ca now!
[08:26] <Cheri703> :)
[08:26] <BiosElement> Unit193: I don't really care how insecure windows is, I wouldn't trust anything to windows :P
[08:27] <Cheri703> someone I know is probably going to go to work for microsoft on security
[08:27] <BiosElement> Tell him to go ask Sony for a job, they're hiring. ;)
[08:28] <Unit193> It can also make it easier[4~ to fix them...
[08:28] <Cheri703> it's a her
[08:28] <Cheri703> she's going to make MONEY
[08:28] <BiosElement> Ahh haha
[08:28] <Unit193> One of the people from another channel is getting an interview with FB
[08:34] <BiosElement> Aight, screw this
[08:34] <Cheri703> ?
[08:34] <BiosElement> I'm not going to sleep till I get this bloody adaptor registry thingy working
[08:34] <Cheri703> ah
[08:34] <BiosElement> Gonna strangle a mouse at this rate
[08:34] <Cheri703> hehe
[08:35] <BiosElement> It shouldn't be that difficult, my brain is just being stupid
[08:35] <Cheri703> ....perhaps sleep would help?
[08:36] <BiosElement> Hah I'd put it off again.
[10:14] <Cheri703> canthus13: I may not be able to get any super awesome sight-seeing pics with sully :/ we have weird timing and some of the stuff is far away :/ so I will do what I can, but no guarantees on any "landmark + sully" pics
[11:49] <canthus13> Cheri703: That's all good. :)
[11:49] <Cheri703> kk :)
[11:49] <Cheri703> there was one place I was hoping to go, but it closes at 6, and that's when we get done :/
[14:11]  * Cheri703 needs a nap
[14:38] <dmcglone> anybody know of anything I can use to print on an envelope?
[14:39] <Cheri703> a printer
[14:39] <Cheri703> libreoffice writer should, libre office draw should, glabels should
[14:40] <dmcglone> glabels does envelope labels, but I want to print directly on the envelope
[14:40] <Cheri703> it should do envelopes...give me a sec
[14:41] <Cheri703> ok, nvm
[14:41] <Cheri703> use libre office
[14:41] <Cheri703> either writer or draw
[14:42] <dmcglone> I think I've found some Oo templates
[14:42] <Cheri703> format page, choose an envelope size
[14:43] <dmcglone> Ah I didn't think about that
[14:43] <dmcglone> I'll try that
[14:44] <Cheri703> sure :)
[15:02] <dmcglone> Thanks Cheri703 took me a couple tries to get it aligned but it worked great
[15:06] <Cheri703> awesome
[15:06] <Cheri703> glad to hear it
[15:10]  * deejoe wonders how things are in .hu
[15:10] <Cheri703> going alright :)
[15:10] <Cheri703> UDS is crazy
[15:10] <Cheri703> I'm learning a ton
[15:10] <Cheri703> I've been "dent" ing on identi.ca  cheri703 on there
[15:11] <Cheri703> some interesting stuff I'd like to suggest to the loco
[15:24] <deejoe> whoo, first subscriber!
[15:24] <Cheri703> \o/
[15:25]  * deejoe glances at paultag, BiosElement
[15:25] <Cheri703> fair warning: it won't always be ubuntu-y
[15:27] <deejoe> that's ok, neither am I
[15:27] <Cheri703> cool
[17:31] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[17:32] <Derath-Srvr> sigh... I hope I haven't killed my install with clonezilla last night...
[17:32] <Derath-Srvr> half of my fears came true wiht it...
[19:29] <jgould> ok...   I talk to AT&T refugees all the time.
[20:12] <Derath-Srvr> canthus13: Having an issue with grub, since I cloned the drive and resized sda3, I knew I had to run grub-install again...
[20:13] <Derath-Srvr> So I started my old hdd (in a usb case), chrooted to the new drive, and tried to run grub-install and got this message:
[20:13] <Derath-Srvr> grub-setup: warn: This msdos-style partition label has no post-MBR gap; embedding won't be possible!
[20:13] <Derath-Srvr> grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  Now I have to go to the whole process of recovery...
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> Sorry to hear that... looks like I may have to do a similar thing too...
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> seems like I will have to re-partition the new hdd, and then clonezilla to copy the partitions...
[20:35] <Derath-Srvr> Have one more trick to try before doing that tho... some parted setting on it...
[20:36] <Unit193> That stinks... Was it your main computer?
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> took about 3 hours to clone the disk...
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> Pretty much...
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> my s76 lappy
[20:36] <Unit193> It was my main flash too...
[20:36] <Derath-Srvr> going from a 320g hdd (at about 90% full) to a 750g :)
[20:37] <Unit193> The 320 doesn't still have all the data?
[20:38] <Derath-Srvr> Sure it does... it's just annoying to have to re-transfer it all over again...
[20:39] <Derath-Srvr> read above to see what I did last night until midnight lol
[20:39] <Derath-Srvr> got the clone finished and realized I didn't have a live 64 cd anywhere in the house...
[20:39] <Derath-Srvr> had to use old hdd to start and chroot into new
[20:47] <Unit193> Thank goodness for testdisk... Anyone know how to fix the partition table without deleting files?
[20:49] <Unit193> (Seems easy to do, I just don't know anyone that's done it...)
[21:17] <Derath-Srvr> No clue..
[21:32] <BiosElement> Derath-Srvr: ...you just backed SVN. I'm afraid you're tainted now. >.>
[21:33] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:33] <Derath-Srvr> I've loved svn for what I've done with it
[21:58] <Unit193> Seems the partition restore worked!
[22:00] <dniMretsaM> hello
[22:01] <dniMretsaM> what exactly is the mailing list?
[22:02] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-us-ohio
[22:15] <Unit193> I just found out my grandpa died this morning...
[22:58] <dniMretsaM> hdude that stinks
[22:58] <dniMretsaM> sry 4 ur loss
[22:59] <dniMretsaM> I'm out peeps