[06:31] <netrat> NooBBoon that /etc/rc.conf file shouldn't matter, restart and see if it still works
[06:31] <Fr|0z3n> that better?
[06:31] <netrat> NooBBoon just as long as you've install the new modules
[06:31] <Y-Town> whats the best way to remove the MBR from a system with no OS?
[06:31] <deope> nickrud:  do you know how to grab my trash can to the desktop?
[06:31] <yaser> travisat, it worked thanks!!!, how can i find more info on those numbers like 766
[06:32] <NooBBoon> netrat: it won't try to load the old driver as well?
[06:32] <JohnMM> !permissions | yacc
[06:32] <ubotu> yacc: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[06:32] <travisat> yaser: yah you can google for chmod and privaledges
[06:32] <nickrud> deope    gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop , there's a checkbox on the right
[06:32] <netrat> Y-Town dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1
[06:32] <deope> nickrud: you're good
[06:32] <Parsec300> howbeit, yes, ot
[06:32] <amenado> Y-Town remove the first 512 bytes ?
[06:32] <redwhitewaldo> i've just installed   ubuntu-restricted-extras. it's telling  me about msttcorefronts. Do I want to use defoma fonts? Are defoma (DEbian FOnt MAnager) fonts good?
[06:32] <nickrud> deope did the exact same two things yesterday, deja vu all over again ;)
[06:32] <travisat> yaser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod
[06:32] <netrat> NooBBoon no it shouldn't, as long as you did everything else
[06:32] <Parsec300> howbeit, yes, it's very nice, especially if you have a system that happens to work out-of-the-box.
[06:33] <Fr|0z3n> Hello, can someone tell me how to change the boot order of my computer?
[06:33] <yaser> travisat, thanks very much
[06:33] <NooBBoon> netrat: alrght then,  i will reboot and try!
[06:33] <Y-Town> thank you
[06:33] <jaffarkelshac> Fr|0z3n, you need to do it in bios
[06:33] <Parsec300> Fr|0z3n, it should be in your BIOS setup
[06:33] <nickrud> redwhitewaldo yes, its like a font registry, lets the fonts become available to a bunch of apps
[06:33] <netrat> Fr|0z3n edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[06:33] <headrx_> can anyone possibly help me with setting up a ftp file server in ubuntu ? i have vsftpd installed.. and set my directory for sharing .. but how do i login /make new users?
[06:33] <deope> nickrud:  hehe wasn't me, but was this computer yeah but they changed the distro
[06:33] <Erickj92> in evolution, how do i update my on the web calendar from google?
[06:33] <deope> nickrud:  says an error on gconf-editor
[06:33] <Fr|0z3n> and how do I change my bios setup?
[06:33] <nickrud> deope must be a typo
[06:34] <netrat> Y-Town /dev/sda <-- will be the hard drive in question, it could be /dev/hda too, be sure you have the right device
[06:34] <Parsec300> Fr|0z3n, some motherboards allow you to select the bootdrive on startup if you press F11 for example.
[06:34] <deope> gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:34] <deope> is correct?
[06:34] <redwhitewaldo> nickrud: ok. thanks. i'll find out how to install defoma later
[06:34] <Fr|0z3n> lemme try
[06:34] <Fr|0z3n> thanks
[06:34] <Y-Town> netrat: yea...   It has a lilo on it now that I need gone
[06:34] <redwhitewaldo> nickrud: what's wrong with regular ubuntu fonts? things look nice now?
[06:34] <redwhitewaldo> .
[06:34] <nickrud> gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/desktop <-- just ran this and cut and pasted
[06:35] <deope> nickrud:  i did, bash: gconf-editor: orden no encontrada
[06:35] <redwhitewaldo> nickrud: what happens if i don't install x-ttcidfont-conf package? does that mean "no msttcorefonts"?
[06:35] <nickrud> deope are you using ubuntu, or kubuntu ? kubuntu, I don't know
[06:35] <deope> nickrud:  xubuntu, sorry
[06:36] <deope> are not the same commands?
[06:36] <NooBBoon> netrat: alright! seems to work even after a reboot! thanks so much for the help!
[06:37] <netrat> NooBBoon: glad i could help
[06:37] <nickrud> redwhitewaldo that package does some configs on ttf fonts to make them available to older apps, gnome and firefox will see msttcorefonts (like arial) just fine
[06:37] <netrat> NooBBoon there is a LUG on okinawa
[06:37] <ouellettesr> amenado, http://pastebin.org/28015
[06:38] <nickrud> deope no, gconf is for setting up the gnome desktop, I'm not sure how to do it in xubuntu
[06:38] <netrat> NooBBoon http://okinawalug.com/
[06:38] <NooBBoon> netrat: hey thanks! that is good info! i will check it out!
[06:39] <D0c5i5> can grub boot from a usb stick as a usb flash device (not emulated) if I kickstart it from a floppy or from the same usb stick that supports fdd boot? (i want to put grub on a small fdd partition at the front of the stick, and the balance of my image on the back half of the stick)
[06:39] <amenado> ouellettesr-> this wont work because you assigned <IP_ADDRESS>.107 to your nic, different subnet from what you pasted
[06:41] <ouellettesr> amenado, nope i changed the subnet, it is <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <amenado> ouellettesr-> try to assign  a 192.168.0.x instead
[06:42] <ouellettesr> amenado, i changed my routers ip to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:42] <allahhhhh> DCC SEND HOEUNTOEHUTNOEHUTOENHUEONTUHOETUHOENTUHOENTUHOEUTNHOEUTNOEHUTNOEHUATENUHOEWMBKWQJKMQVJWPCPG<>LRPC<>LPHETIHKWQJMKVJWQIHTNUOHP>C
[06:42] <ouellettesr> ay
[06:42] <ouellettesr> gay
[06:42] <amenado> ouellettesr-> am confused now, what exactly is the ip address assigned now to your eth0 ?
[06:43] <ouellettesr> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:43] <ouellettesr> sorry
[06:43] <amenado> ouellettesr-> try to ping <IP_ADDRESS>  and then <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:44] <amenado> if you cant, your cable is bad or nic card has gone bad..
[06:44] <ouellettesr> amenado, i can ping <IP_ADDRESS>, but not .110
[06:44] <howbeit> is there a shortcut to opening up a terminal window?
[06:45] <amenado> ouellettesr-> no blinking led indicators?  then most likely a bad cable, try it with a working one..swapp them if possible
[06:45] <ouellettesr> howbeit,  its disabled by default, you hav to set it
[06:46] <cwillu> howbeit, alt+f2 will give you a run prompt, if that's useful
[06:46] <burepe> I am trying to manually partition and I don't know what mount point to put for a fat32 partition. I have the ubuntu ext3 at / and then swap. Where does do I mount extra partitions?
[06:46] <ouellettesr> amenado, yeah the cable works, i pulled it from a working computer, it must be the nics
[06:46] <ouellettesr> they are old
[06:46] <cwillu> crossover?
[06:46] <cwillu> ouellettesr, is it a crossover cable?
[06:46] <Ishbibenob> does anyone know where I would go for troubleshooting questions?
[06:47] <cwillu> right here
[06:47] <ahyuwhiye> ((:
[06:47] <ouellettesr> howbeit,  system>preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts and set a shortcut
[06:47] <amenado> ouellettesr-> well you know how to test for a bad cable...if this was the onboard, use the pci, see if that works
[06:47] <ahyuwhiye> debian-de
[06:47] <ahyuwhiye> oups
[06:47] <Ishbibenob> My kid pushed a bunch of buttons on my keyboard and now compiz wont work, and the computer freezes up when I try to log out. also seems to be real slow
[06:47] <Ishbibenob> The computer seemed to go into some kind of sleep mode
[06:48] <ouellettesr> cwillu, yes it is a crossover cable but my router changes to the type of cable
[06:48] <wor6c> hmm
[06:48] <cwillu> ouellettesr, k, it sounded like you were going nic to nic
[06:48] <ouellettesr> nop
[06:49] <wor6c> Ishbibenob: can you try this in console: sudo reboot now
[06:49] <ouellettesr> amenado, yeah there is a pci, and onboard, i have tried both of them
[06:49] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, does the capslock light still turn on and off?
[06:49] <amenado> ouellettesr-> you can also test with mii-tool
[06:49] <wor6c> Ishbibenob: it will reboot, that will probably fix it
[06:49] <Ishbibenob> My computer doesnt have a caps lock light, just the button
[06:49] <cwillu> is it a black screen?
[06:50] <ouellettesr> amenado, it says no MII interfaces found
[06:50] <cwillu> ouellettesr, sudo it
[06:50] <Ishbibenob> I have done several reboots and still doesnt fix the prob
[06:50] <wor6c> oh I see
[06:50] <Ishbibenob> It has always worked in the past, so whatever he did, messed something up
[06:51] <Ishbibenob> I guess that is obvious
[06:51] <wor6c> right
[06:51] <wor6c> hmmm
[06:51] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, you're gonna have to give us more information, what's on the screen right now, etc;  I'm not gonna start trying to read your mind :p
[06:51] <ouellettesr> amenado, cwillu, eth0 100 Mbit, half duplex, no link
[06:51] <Ishbibenob> anyway, I have tried to go into the desktop effects and enable, but it wont do it
[06:51] <netrat> Ishbibenob sounds strange...
[06:51] <burepe> What do I put for a mount point for a fat32 partition?
[06:51] <wor6c> Compiz config messed up....
[06:51] <Ishbibenob> I have checked the forums and found people who have trouble running gnome, but mine has always worked like a dream
[06:52] <netrat> burepe whatever you want to mount it... maybe /mnt/fat32
[06:52] <Ishbibenob> Checked the config and it all looks good, not sure what I am looking for
[06:52] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, describe the problem more
[06:52] <ouellettesr> amenado, cwillu, if i unplug the cable from the pci and run that command again it says no-link
[06:52] <cwillu> netrat, /media/fat32 you mean; /mnt isn't really the place for those, despite the name
[06:53] <Kommwths> hello guys:) can someone help me to confiqure my bluetooth hardware(onboard)?
[06:53] <burepe> netrat will it make the directory? is there a standard one?
[06:53] <ouellettesr> maybe the pci card is causing conflicts with the onboard
[06:53] <amenado> ouellettesr-> pci? i thought you were working with the on-board nic?
[06:53] <ouellettesr> amenado, i have both, and have been trying both with everything
[06:53] <netrat> burepe no there is no standard directory, you'll have to create it first. use /media/fat32 as cwillu suggested
[06:53] <burepe> thanks
[06:54] <Ishbibenob> When he pushed the buttons, it seemed to try to go into sleep mode, when it did that it restored without any compiz effects and my screenlet layer was at the forefront as if the effect had been turned off. I tried restarting which led to the freeze which i worked around by typing sudo poweroff, after several of those The computer seems to be lagging and freezing at will
[06:54] <netrat> burepe welcome
[06:54] <amenado> ouellettesr-> are you saying using same ip address on both?
[06:54] <Ishbibenob> I have never used sleep mode, so I am not sure if that is what happened or not
[06:54] <ouellettesr> amenado, yes, there is only one ip to set and that is eth0, there is no eth1
[06:55] <amenado> ouellettesr-> what? having both the onboard and the pci card?
[06:55] <Ishbibenob> I went in and reinstalled the compiz package which did nothing
[06:55] <loquitus_of_borg> hey people. I am getting an error when I run configure for an app I am building. it says that ./config.sub is not found. how so'?
[06:55] <sebastorama> how to specify the minimum size of a X-window?
[06:56] <ouellettesr> amenado, if i type ifconfig, there is only eth0 and eth0:avah
[06:56] <Mehal> I was wondering if anyone could help me set up my system for dual screen. I have a intel gma 945gm
[06:56] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, what does it do after a reboot?
[06:56] <amenado> ouellettesr-> then do you know if thats the onboard or the pci?
[06:56] <sebastorama> program specified minimum size: <- wanna change this value..
[06:57] <Ishbibenob> loads like it normally should, everything looks the same acts the same until you try to move around and do things
[06:57] <brian> If I'm on Ubuntu, and using VNC to control another Ubuntu computer, can I save a file I find on the other computer to mine?
[06:57] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, if you turn off all desktop effects in system | preferences | appearance?
[06:57] <amenado> brian you can scp  it over
[06:57] <netrat> brian that isn't a function of VNC
[06:57] <Ishbibenob> When he pushed the button it required me to sign back in almost like I had signed out, but the boxes were solid black and had a funny look to them
[06:57] <brian> amenado: :D Whats scp? And how might I do that?
[06:57] <netrat> !scp
[06:57] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[06:58] <cwillu> brian, what os on the two machines?
[06:58] <amenado> brian-> secure copy
[06:58] <ouellettesr> amenado, its the pci, when i have it pluggen into pci, i type, mii-tool, and it says:  eth0 100 Mbit, half duplex, no link..... But if i unplug the pci and type mii-tool it says: no link
[06:58] <brian> netrat: Ah, dang. Just started using it today, don't really know much about it :P Thought I'd ask
[06:58] <brian> amenado: Ah, ok :) How do I do that?
[06:58] <netrat> brian that's okay...
[06:58] <brian> cwillu: Ubuntu. 7.04 on one, 7.10 on the other
[06:59] <amenado> brian may i introduce you to man pages?  man scp
[06:59] <netrat> brian Usage: scp filename user@host:filename
[06:59] <Dusti1> hello I am looking for a little help
[06:59] <Ishbibenob> yeah when I that it says "cannot enable desktop effects" it tries and even changes the look of the windows to my theme then gives me the error message
[06:59] <cwillu> brian, install openssh-server on at least one machine, and then you can from the other machine enter sftp://first-machines-name.local/ to browse and move files around
[06:59] <Kommwths> hello guys:) can someone help me to confiqure my bluetooth hardware(onboard)?
[06:59] <cwillu> brian, assuming there's no firewall between them
[06:59] <netrat> Dusti1 ask away
[06:59] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, are you enabling or disabling them?
[06:59] <cwillu> it shouldn't say anything about 'cannot enable' if you do what I said
[06:59] <Dusti1> my laptop has no cd i am running puppy linux now have a 1 gig usb stick how can i install ubuntu from it
[06:59] <Dusti1> ?
[07:00] <Ishbibenob> it is currently disabled, trying to enable them
[07:00] <BSG75> anyone know how to get Intel 82801H HD audio controller to work under gutsy?
[07:00] <amenado> ouellettesr-> you unplug the pci? that seems pretty quick, hot swappable?
[07:00] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, don't enable it
[07:00] <Ishbibenob> ok
[07:00] <Ishbibenob> it is currently disabled
[07:00] <ouellettesr> amenado, i will try that
[07:00] <vk__> kennt sich hier einer mit samba aus?
[07:00] <brian> amenado netrat and cwillu: Ah, thanks guys :D I'll try that
[07:00] <unop_> !de | vk__
[07:00] <ubotu> vk__: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:01] <Ishbibenob> its on none right now
[07:01] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, I'm still having difficulty figuring out what state you're in right now:  _right_now_, what is broken (other than effects)?
[07:01] <Dusti1> would anyone walk me through installing ubuntu froma usb cause i have no cd player?
[07:01] <amenado> Dusti1-> you can copy the liveCD into a directory and then modify the menu.lst of your puppy to point to that liveCD ..
[07:01] <Ishbibenob> nothing other than the freezing when I push the log out icon on both the cairo dock and taskbar
[07:02] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, cairo?
[07:02] <Ishbibenob> and the slow processing
[07:02] <Dusti1> where is the menu.lst
[07:02] <BSG75> anyone know how to get Intel 82801H HD audio controller to work under gutsy?
[07:02] <amenado> Dusti1-> you need to copy the vmlinuz and initrd image from the livecd to that directory
[07:02] <Dusti1> so to my usb stick
[07:02] <Ishbibenob> Cairo Dock (kinda like Avant window nav) mac type menu
[07:02] <amenado> Dusti1-> does puppy linux uses grub or lilo to boot? if grub maybe its grub.conf if not menu.lst
[07:02] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, can you remove it for now?
[07:02] <Dusti1> grub
[07:02] <Ishbibenob> yeah
[07:03] <redwhitewaldo> guys, (particularly nickrud). i am on xubuntu and i installed ubuntu-restricted-extras. I've just realized there is a xubuntu-restricted-extras. how do i remove ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[07:03] <LuxZenith> Hey - my wireless isn't associated with any driver. Do you guys know how I can change that? (broadcom 4311 - UGH... I tried using Ndiswrapper and b43 but they don't work anymore!)
[07:03] <Nasra> hi guys....need to findout why when I tune into tv station to view is always showing like slow motion ...can you direct into the proper procedure in fixing my slow motion?
[07:03] <xaniel> hey guys
[07:03] <amenado> Dusti1-> look in your /boot/grub
[07:03] <xaniel> Just loving ubuntu
[07:03] <Dusti1> I have the iso downloaded for 7.20
[07:03] <xaniel> it's neat
[07:03] <Ishbibenob> removed!
[07:03] <Dusti1> there
[07:03] <amenado> Dusti1-> 7.10 ?
[07:03] <Dusti1> yeah
[07:03] <Dusti1> sorry
[07:03] <Survivorman> redbox, sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:03] <Dusti1> mistype
[07:03] <xaniel> i upgraded to the 8.04 beta and had to feinstall
[07:04] <Ishbibenob> Still getting the freeze on the log out button though
[07:04] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, open a terminal, run 'top', and tell me if there's anything using more that 10-20% cpu
[07:04] <amenado> Dusti1-> mount your iso and picked off the two files i told you about
[07:04] <Ishbibenob> freezes the whole desktop until I push the escape key for some reason that frees it up
[07:04] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, (terminal is in apps | accessories)
[07:04] <Dusti1> mount -o image.iso right
[07:04] <BSG75> anyone know how to get Intel 82801H HD sound card working?
[07:05] <amenado> Dusti1-> you have to have a mountpoint
[07:05] <Dusti1> ok
[07:05] <amenado> Dusti1-> too bad you came in late, am off to bed..
[07:05] <Dusti1> i can mount it anywhere?
[07:05] <Ishbibenob> all under 2%
[07:05] <amenado> Dusti1-> mount only on a directory..
[07:05] <Dusti1> ok
[07:05] <amenado> Dusti1-> perhaps tommorow..am off for now
[07:05] <Dusti1> wher edo i copy the files to before you go
[07:05] <amenado> ..
[07:05] <Dusti1> once i get them
[07:06] <amenado> Dusti1-> create a directory anywhere, the copy the expanded iso not the iso file itself
[07:06] <Dusti1> i know
[07:06] <roxahris> Is installing ubuntu or a variant of it as simple as everyone says it is?
[07:06] <Ishbibenob> nothing that looks out of the ordinary
[07:06] <Dusti1> but how do i load it in rub
[07:06] <Dusti1> grub
[07:06] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, you have another computer that you can irc from?
[07:06] <Antoni1> всем привет
[07:07] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, log out, from the login screen, look for a 'sessions' button, and select gnome-failsafe (you're using normal ubuntu, not xubuntu or anything right)?
[07:07] <amenado> you modify the menu.lst ..add an entry for your new boot from the hd, pointing to that directory you uncompressed the iso
[07:07] <Ishbibenob> I have a mac downstairs, would I need to install this program on it?
[07:07] <blue-frog> roxahris: yes
[07:07] <roxahris> oh, okay
[07:07] <Ishbibenob> yes normal ubuntu
[07:07] <Dusti1> ok cool
[07:07] <burepe> I am using the live cd to install but I am getting a partition error so it won't work. Any suggestions?
[07:07] <roxahris> see you next month, when I decide I want to install it, then
[07:07] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, don't worry about the mac, just handy if you can be talking and resetting things at the same time
[07:07] <Ishbibenob> after I do that, then what?
[07:07] <cwillu> log in
[07:07] <Ishbibenob> I see
[07:07] <leonbrussels> roxahris well, put the cd in start your pc and if you like do an install
[07:08] <Ishbibenob> ok
[07:08] <vbhide> hi there! i've tried a LOT to get my laptop to connect to a wpa encrypted network, nothing works! i'm now trying wicd... any tips?
[07:08] <Antoni1> тут по-русски будут говорить?
[07:08] <Ishbibenob> cwillu, how do you log out from command line?
[07:09] <cwillu> Ishbibenob, ugly way to do it is to just hit ctrl+alt+backspace (which will kill the display server, and any open programs with no further prompts)
[07:09] <blue-frog> !ru Antoni1
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ru antoni1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <Ishbibenob> ok
[07:10] <BSG75> none here has Intel 82801H HD sound card?
[07:10] <BottledHate> is anyone availible to answer a few questions regarding dual boot on a laptop? please pm... ty
[07:10] <Survivorman> !russian | Antoni1
[07:10] <ubotu> Antoni1: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:10] <cwillu> !pm
[07:10] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[07:11] <lachlan> does anybody know if photoshop cs3 will work under wine?
[07:12] <Survivorman> !wine | lachlan
[07:12] <ubotu> lachlan: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:12] <cromag> !appdb
[07:12] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:12] <vbhide> do i HAVE to go and configure wpa supllicant before being able to use wi fi?
[07:12] <Survivorman> thanks cromag
[07:12] <cromag> np
[07:13] <ishbibenob> alright changed the session
[07:13] <cwillu> how is that one working?
[07:13] <ishbibenob> let me try the effects and log out
[07:14] <ishbibenob> still locks up when I try to restart
[07:14] <nogh> Hi
[07:14] <ishbibenob> or sign out
[07:14] <arvind_khadri> !fonts
[07:14] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:14] <cwillu> you didn't just enable effects did you?
[07:14] <ishbibenob> no
[07:14] <cwillu> good :p
[07:14] <ishbibenob> just tried pushing the log out button
[07:14] <cwillu> mouse stopped moving?
[07:14] <arvind_khadri> hi,am not able to get complete text in kannada
[07:14] <vbhide> sorry... exited by mistake... do i have to configure wpa_supplicant before using wpa?
[07:15] <ishbibenob> mouse works good
[07:15] <cwillu> vbhide, define 'configure'
[07:15] <friedtofu> anyone able to send me their "Times" font?
[07:15] <cwillu> vbhide, should be point and click (it'll ask for a password, etc)
[07:15] <vbhide> go to the wpasupplicant.conf file and change some stuff
[07:15] <BottledHate> i have a laptop with windows installed curerntly, i don't want to damage that install. i have free partions on the drives(2).. is the install cd able to install to a separate partition while acheiving full dual boot without third party software? can the dual boot be easily removed?
[07:15] <cwillu> vbhide, you shouldn't need to edit anything, unless your card doesn't work by default, or you need it to work without a logged in session
[07:15] <arvind_khadri> blocks show up in between
[07:16] <cwillu> ishbibenob, what locks up when you hit logout?
[07:16] <redwhitewaldo> what's the diff between xubuntu-restricted-codecs and  ubuntu-restricted-codecs?
[07:16] <arvind_khadri> hi,am not able to get complete text in kannada,blocks show up in between....
[07:16] <vbhide> i tried everything that a newbie could... i'm trying wicd now
[07:16] <ishbibenob> everything, cant choose the applications/places/system menus or click any desktop item, unless I push escape
[07:16] <ishbibenob> then it frees it up
[07:17] <vbhide> hi arvind, have you instaled kannada in the language support?
[07:17] <Survivorman> thats sounds like some crazy compiz modifier key issue
[07:17] <cwillu> ishbibenob, we're talking about something other than the prompt that pops up when you hit the logout button?
[07:17] <ishbibenob> the prompt does not show up when I hit the log out button
[07:18] <ishbibenob> There may be other things that could freeze it, but that is the one that I noticed, I wait for the prompt and nothing
[07:18] <cwillu> ishbibenob, create a new user (System | administration | users, make it a desktop user, simple password, etc)
[07:18] <ishbibenob> ok
[07:18] <cwillu> ishbibenob, and then logout (ctrl+alt+backspace or whatever), and log in under that user
[07:19] <redwhitewaldo> folks, how do i remove everything that ubuntu-restricted-codecs installed?
[07:20] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, with considerable pain and suffering :p
[07:20] <Stroganoff> redwhitewaldo why would you wanna do that?
[07:20] <Survivorman> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-restricted-extras redwhitewaldo
[07:20] <arvind_khadri> vbhide, how do i do that...sorry didnt see ur reply
[07:20] <Survivorman> he wants to install the xubuntu ones
[07:21] <Survivorman> xubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:21] <redwhitewaldo> Survivorman: that doesn't remove the 20 megs of packages. only the 29 kb of the meta package.
[07:21] <cwillu> Survivorman, that won't get rid of dependencies
[07:21] <arvind_khadri> vbhide, i got it
[07:21] <jaffarkelshac> i know ubuntu allows multi loggin so far i know (telnet -not secure, and openssh-secure) what other protocols are available
[07:21] <redwhitewaldo> Stroganoff: because i want to install the xubuntu-restricted-codecs instead.
[07:21] <Survivorman> cwillu, is there any real difference in the metapackages?
[07:21] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, use aptitude, it should offer to uninstall the dependencies as well
[07:21] <cwillu> Survivorman, just look at what they install in synaptic (open dependencies on each one)
[07:22] <Survivorman> okay cwillu, thanks.
[07:22] <Stroganoff> redwhitewaldo: purge the packages listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:22] <Stroganoff> sudo apt-get purge PACKAGE
[07:22] <redwhitewaldo> Stroganoff: but that's just about 14 packages. my install put in 39 packages
[07:22] <unop_> jaffarkelshac, you could say that someone accessing a webserver on your machine is 'logging on' .. so technically, if your computer is networked and other computers access it, users can log in in all sorts of ways
[07:22] <Stroganoff> redwhitewaldo: sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:22] <n-iCe> hello good night, question, how do I change the file attributes to executable
[07:23] <snowolf> n-iCe: chmod +x file
[07:23] <n-iCe> thanks
[07:23] <snowolf> (from terminal)
[07:23] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, the only difference is the gstreamer plugins, which are probably useful to have around anyway
[07:23] <Stroganoff> n-iCe have you been able to find your password?
[07:23] <ishbibenob> cwillu, that worked, at least I am able click log out and it gives the prompt
[07:24] <n-iCe> Stroganoff I re-installed
[07:24] <cwillu> ishbibenob, okay
[07:24] <Stroganoff> n-iCe that was not necessary
[07:24] <n-iCe> worked :p
[07:24] <ishbibenob> only problem I guess would be that all my user setting and everything are on the other, what would be the best thing to do?
[07:24] <Stroganoff> next time mind case sensitivity ;)
[07:24] <n-iCe> how Do I get the autopackage support?
[07:24] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: gstreamer plugins are in the U-restricetd-extras or in the xubunu-restircetd-extras?
[07:24] <n-iCe> :|
[07:24] <n-iCe> Starnestommy oh I did
[07:24] <redwhitewaldo> Stroganoff: your advice doesn't work
[07:24] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, u
[07:25] <J-Unit> plz i have an oral for tomorrow and im very sleepy i need a text to mp3 (or any other audio extention) program to read it to me wile i have my eyes closed
[07:25] <redwhitewaldo> and what's the gstreamer plugins good for? if they're good, how come Xubuntu doesn't have them?
[07:25] <Stroganoff> redwhitewaldo: have you any problems with ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[07:25] <redwhitewaldo> because they're a memory hog?
[07:25] <redwhitewaldo> Stroganoff: no. i just thought that since i'm on xubuntu, i should get the xubuntu-restricted-extras package
[07:25] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, things aren't loaded into memory unless they're being used generally
[07:26] <n-iCe> how Do I get the autopackage support? I need it, trying to run the executable I get that,telling me for the autopackage
[07:26] <J-Unit> isnt there any ubuntu text to sound software??
[07:26] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: so the gsteramer-plugins file(s) would only be loaded when i have a media player progam running?
[07:26] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: espeak
[07:26] <Survivorman> redwhitewaldo, maybe it depends on the intended programs using them, since xubuntu and ubuntu use different apps as defaults
[07:26] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, yes
[07:26] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, in repositories?
[07:26] <Stroganoff> yep
[07:26] <ishbibenob> cwillu, should I swap all my info then delete the other user, what do you think?
[07:26] <cwillu> ishbibenob, thinking
[07:26] <ishbibenob> ok
[07:27] <ishbibenob> thanks
[07:27] <redwhitewaldo> ok. well, what do i do now? I did a "remove" of ubuntu-restricted-extras package, yet all the other packages it installed are still on my computer.
[07:27] <n-iCe> brb rebootingh
[07:27] <redwhitewaldo> ?
[07:27] <n-iCe> rebooting
[07:27] <cwillu> ishbibenob, the tricky thing being that your username shows up in various places in the profile, so just copying either profile to the other will probably break other things in weird and wonderful ways
[07:27] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: oh, btw, i'm on 8.04. 8-)
[07:27] <ishbibenob> hmm, I see
[07:27] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, synaptic says i have it installed alredy!!!!! were is it?
[07:27] <cybits> hy
[07:27] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, I know, I was checking the 8.04 repo's when I told you that
[07:28] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: 8-)
[07:28]  * cwillu knows all :p
[07:28] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: terminal: espeak --help
[07:28] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: how'd u know?
[07:28] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, its a terminal program??
[07:28] <cwillu> I have my ways
[07:28] <cwillu> the fact that you were in #ubuntu+1 was the more obvious way though :p
[07:28] <redwhitewaldo> ha ha
[07:28] <tdo> irc.whatnet.org
[07:29] <Stroganoff> J-Unit yes
[07:29] <cwillu> redwhitewaldo, it's only a handful of packages, you could just deselect them by hand.  Could be that you have something installed that pulled them in already though
[07:29] <progmanos> Compiz freezes randomly.  I'm using Kubuntu Hardy and the latest NVidia driver on a GeForce 6150SE.
[07:29] <redwhitewaldo> cwillu: thanks.
[07:29] <redwhitewaldo> g'night
[07:30] <cwillu> ishbibenob, well, the obvious approach I can think of (although a bit tedious), is to make a copy of everything in your home directory (including .* files which are hidden by default, hit ctrl+h in nautilus to show them)
[07:30] <cwillu> ishbibenob, and then delete all the .* folders one by one until you find the one that unbreaks it
[07:30] <Sheff> are KDE and Gnome "shells" ?
[07:30] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, omg plz i have no idea how to use this...all i wanna do is convert a .doc to .mp3 or any other sound extension if mp3 is not possible, i dont care wat voice etc plz just give me a command im a very last minute person its 2 30 am i have to wake up at 6 am and i need to practice for an oral tomorrow
[07:31] <th0ger> Sheff: No.
[07:31] <Survivorman> could you make a backup of user x, move it to y, delete x and then remake x and move settings back to x?
[07:31] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: don't cry, just try espeak --help
[07:31] <Stroganoff> it may be not THAT complicated
[07:31] <Sheff> th0ger: "desktop environment" ?
[07:32] <ishbibenob> make a copy of home folder to a boot drive or somethin, or to the other user?
[07:32] <n-iCe> how do I set my wireless connection as default and auto connect on reboot?
[07:32] <cwillu> ishbibenob, even just to another folder in the same user
[07:32] <th0ger> Sheff: Yes :)
[07:32] <ishbibenob> ok
[07:32] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, i did that but i dont rely understand the output..
[07:32] <bluecake> i ve installed proftpd , how to test if it works?
[07:32] <cwillu> ishbibenob, it's the .foo files that you need to back up (just be careful as you delete stuff)
[07:32] <Sheff> th0ger: what is "Window Manager" then?
[07:32] <ishbibenob> ok
[07:32] <th0ger> Sheff: KDE=K Desktop Environment.
[07:32] <unop__> Sheff, in the accepted definition of a 'shell', kde and gnome do not fit that description .. but since they allow the user to interact with the system they can be thought of as shells .. but the proper term for them would be Desktop Environments (as they encompass a lot of 'shells')
[07:33] <Survivorman> cwillu, but won't not knowing what caused the problem in the first place put the new user at risk if importing potentially tainted settings that could disrupt the new user
[07:33] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, -f and then all the text?
[07:33] <Stroganoff> i'm installing it right now...
[07:33] <cwillu> Survivorman, we're not importing anything
[07:33] <Survivorman> ah, just backing up data?
[07:33] <cwillu> Survivorman, you make a backup of everything, and then delete the fiels (to let them default) one by one
[07:33] <unop__> Sheff, desktop environments use window managers to manage windows, position them, draw extension, open, close and maximize them, etc
[07:34] <progmanos> the following is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62388/
[07:34] <Survivorman> ok cwillu, I understand. settings default.
[07:34] <wers> how do I extract 7zip archives? :D
[07:34] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, im so stupid, i like copy pasted my hw into it :(
[07:34] <Stroganoff> J-Unit im sure you can input files too
[07:34] <th0ger> Sheff: KDE and gnome are also window mangers. But what makes then desktop environments, is that they support all kinds of interactive shit between applications. (or something like that)
[07:34] <unop__> wers, there is a 7zip package
[07:34] <greenstar_>  /msg nickserv link greenstar madman99
[07:34] <Stroganoff> J-Unit, at first, copy all that text out of word into a plain text file
[07:34] <unop__> th0ger, language
[07:34] <th0ger> unop_: sorry
[07:34] <Sheff> what is the window manager for KDE and Gnome? I am trying to compare with windows
[07:34] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, save it as .rtf u mean?
[07:35] <Stroganoff> no
[07:35] <Stroganoff> .TXT
[07:35] <wers> unop_, E: Couldn't find package 7zip
[07:35] <Stroganoff> if you dont know how, just copy everything into gedit
[07:35] <Stroganoff> and save
[07:35] <Sheff> I mean a window manager is a program?
[07:35] <nic_> Inside the home folder go through every file right? is there a specific folder or file type I should be watching for?
[07:35] <Stroganoff> then: espeak -f textfile.txt -w outputfile.wav
[07:35] <clarkGamble> werdz, apt-cache search 7z
[07:36] <Stroganoff> J-Unit, do you understand?
[07:36] <unop__> wers, sorry, p7zip
[07:36] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, i chose text and not text encoded
[07:36] <Stroganoff> put textfile.txt into you home and run the command
[07:36] <Sheff> no not like that :) - - what is the equivalent of explorer.exe in Ubuntu?
[07:36] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, both are .txt thats y im sayin
[07:36] <unop__> Sheff, i believe gnome uses metacity as it's window manager, it is a program yes
[07:36] <tengulre> hi,all when I running ' apt-get update ' I got ' Hash Sum Mismatch' ? how to fixed it?
[07:36] <Armadillio> how come the rt61pci driver keeps crashing my entire ubuntu 8.04 desktop sessions? it's a linkysy wmp54g 4.1
[07:36] <th0ger> Sheff: Thats a weird question...
[07:36] <dmkae> hello
[07:37] <Stroganoff> J-Unit as long as its not RTF
[07:37] <Survivorman> !Hardy | Armadillio
[07:37] <ubotu> Armadillio: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[07:37] <Stroganoff> now run J-Unit: espeak -f textfile.txt -w outputfile.wav
[07:37] <wers> how do I use p7zip to extract? :D
[07:37] <clarkGamble> man
[07:37] <clarkGamble> ask man
[07:37] <unop__> wers, man p7zip :d
[07:37] <dmkae> hey stroganof
[07:37] <dmkae> long time no see
[07:37] <Stroganoff> erm
[07:37] <unop__> wers, you can also use xarchiver to extract 7zip files, i think
[07:37] <wers> :( hehe
[07:37] <Sheff> I want windows and shell be very simple like windows classic theme. without ANY effects and beauty, how do I?
[07:38] <n-iCe> how do I set my wireless connection as default and auto connect on reboot?
[07:38] <Stroganoff> J-Unit its really simple, have you got it?
[07:38] <omnz0r> wers sudo apt-get install unp ... unp unpakcs all kinds of shit trough CLI, so you don't have to worry about remembering shit
[07:38] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, do i have to cd to location of .txt b4 doing that?
[07:38] <Stroganoff> yes
[07:38] <Stroganoff> or do it like this:
[07:38] <unop__> omnz0r, language
[07:38] <Stroganoff> espeak -f /home/junit/blablabla/textfile.txt -w outputfile.wav
[07:38] <nic_> cwillu this is ishbibenob, do I look for any specific file type?
[07:39] <damo23> n-iCe: edit /etc/network/interfaces..... add a line "auto eth1"  or whatever
[07:39] <wers> omnz0r, so i just run unp <file location>?
[07:39] <tarrus> what happened to all the programs I installed with the Synaptics manager?
[07:39] <cwillu> nic_, just deal with the folders that start with a '.' for now
[07:39] <tarrus> i don't see them in my applications list
[07:39] <omnz0r> wers: cd into the dir where you want your files to be ... the unp <location>
[07:39] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, well i did cd ~/Desktop/ b4 typing wat u gave me slightly edited with assignment name.txt
[07:39] <omnz0r> the=then*
[07:39] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, .wav got created but its not making noise
[07:39] <cwillu> nic_, back them all up first to another folder though
[07:40] <omnz0r> there's probably other ways to do it, but that's one
[07:40] <Stroganoff> J-Unit are you sure your .txt is just plain text?
[07:40] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: open it with gedit or any EDITOR
[07:40] <n-iCe> damo23 uhm
[07:40] <tarrus> where are all the programs i installed with the Synaptics Package Manager placed?  I don't see them under applications
[07:40] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: i just tested the command, it worked at the start.
[07:40] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, i used openoffice to make it .txt (Text)
[07:40] <n-iCe> damo23 take a look: http://asdasdasd.pastebin.com/m6ef7fecc is it correct?
[07:41] <nic_> cwillu, another dumb question, where can I make a backup of the home folder without it being inside the home folder?
[07:41] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, i have a plan, ill do gedit then put assignment in there and save it
[07:41] <Stroganoff> J-Unit that was my plan
[07:41] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, lol
[07:41] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, that actually made me laf alot
[07:42] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, anyway im gona do it now
[07:42] <unop__> nic_, you can do something like this.  (cd /path/to/anotherfolder; tar czf homefolder.tgz ~)
[07:42] <Stroganoff> J-Unit, you might want to adjust the reading speed with a third parameter: espeak -f textfile.txt -w outputfile.wav -s 170
[07:42] <Stroganoff> 170 is default
[07:42] <Stroganoff> choose something from 80 to 370
[07:42] <cwillu> nic_, in nautilus, just open the home folder, select everything, hit copy, make a new folder, move into it, and hit paste
[07:42] <damo23> n-iCe: i think the "auto wlan0" needs to be at the top of that wlan0 block
[07:42] <Stroganoff> good night, J-Unit
[07:42] <nic_> thanks
[07:42] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, ur leaving?
[07:43] <bluefrog> tarrus: in synaptic, select settings/pref and check "show packages prop..." then select your package and you will see what and where have been installed in the "installed files" tab
[07:43] <Stroganoff> no
[07:43] <dmkae> stroganof
[07:43] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, i still have to memorize 3.5 pages if u ment goodnight to me to leave
[07:43] <dmkae> remember me?  i think i once asked you if your name was related to the quake strogg
[07:43] <dmkae> :P
[07:43] <Stroganoff> J-Unit well you could have started earlier ;)
[07:43] <th0ger_ifa> nic_: you might use a folder like /mnt/backup or /media/backup. But you should really use another disk/partition if the backup should be useful.
[07:44] <Stroganoff> dmkae faintly ;)
[07:44] <dmkae> cool
[07:44] <dmkae> so you remember
[07:44] <deepfreez> Hi, why i can remove/add a new document in partition ntfs what is wrong ? http://pastebin.com/m172ce7fc , and how i need add the line for work!
[07:44] <dmkae> i was under a different name
[07:45] <n-iCe> damo23 ok can I comment the other connections?
[07:45] <dmkae> and i believe you replied that you were more of a ut fan
[07:45] <th0ger_ifa> deepfreez: what soes mount|grep ntfs say?
[07:45] <damo23> n-iCe:  what for? theres no harm in having them
[07:45] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, im trying to do things on time :(
[07:45] <n-iCe> damo23 ok
[07:46] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, im having totem problems, im reeboting
[07:46] <n-iCe> won't interfere? damo23 ?
[07:46] <Stroganoff> dmkae no that cant be true, i've played 100x more q3 than any ut game
[07:46] <deepfreez> th0ger_ifa: i don't understand :)
[07:46] <damo23> n-iCe:  nope
[07:46] <n-iCe> thanks
[07:46] <Stroganoff> wow, totem problems
[07:46] <Stroganoff> i have no problems of any kind with my.....
[07:46] <Stroganoff> ubuntu light script!!
[07:46] <Stroganoff> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=741631&page=2
[07:46] <Stroganoff> ;)
[07:47] <dmkae> ah ok
[07:48] <dave11> !mandriva
[07:48] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[07:48] <kelvin911> hello
[07:48] <kelvin911> anyone uses windows b4?
[07:48] <cwillu> kelvin911, years ago :p
[07:48] <N3WFI3> lmdAO
[07:48] <N3WFI3> lmao
[07:49] <kelvin911> how to change theme without installing styleXP?
[07:49] <dirtyhand> what command can I do to find the path to a command
[07:49] <kelvin911> i am in windows now i am tired of the boring look and i dont wanna install styleXP
[07:49] <dirtyhand> like git
[07:50] <andb> whereis
[07:50] <unop__> dirtyhand, type -a git  or  which git
[07:50] <cwillu> dirtyhand, which
[07:50] <cwillu> dirtyhand, "which git"
[07:50] <dirtyhand> thanks
[07:50] <cwillu> kelvin911, -> #windows
[07:50] <Sheff> where can I get Xubuntu?
[07:50] <cwillu> dirtyhand, locate <foo> is helpful too
[07:51] <unop__> !xubuntu
[07:51] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[07:51] <kelvin911> cwillu: #windows is dead like water
[07:51] <kelvin911> cwillu: i have no choice and come here to ask
[07:51] <unop__> kelvin911, ##windows rather
[07:51] <adrian_2002ca> so can I have a channel on irc.freenode.com??? how do i do this?
[07:52] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, omg this guy sounds worse than microsoft sam 0_0
[07:52] <unop__> kelvin911, what makes you think we will support windows here, this is #ubuntu .. your question is also off-topic (see the topic)
[07:52] <Stroganoff> there are other voices
[07:52] <clarkGamble> adrian_2002ca, #adrian_2002ca
[07:52] <Stroganoff> but i have no time to look into that right now
[07:52] <bluecake> how to config anonymous login for ftp server?
[07:52] <cwillu> kelvin911, sure you do, you could not ask.  If you want a new theme, download and install wubi
[07:52] <tarrus> what are some good filesharing programs from linux?
[07:52] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, how do i look into it?
[07:52] <tarrus> i installed mutella, but it appears to be command line only
[07:52] <Stroganoff> J-Unit: man espeak
[07:52] <adrian_2002ca> clarkGamble: that's a channel? really?
[07:52] <kelvin911> whats wubi?
[07:52] <cwillu> tarrus, frostwire
[07:53] <clarkGamble> lol
[07:53] <cwillu> !wubi
[07:53] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[07:53] <dave11> shure wish mandriva had a irc
[07:53] <Stroganoff> it sure has
[07:53] <dave11> it does???
[07:53] <Stroganoff> dave11: /j #mandriva
[07:54] <kelvin911> whats wubi?
[07:54] <tarrus> searched for frostwire on synaptic package manager and didn't find it
[07:54] <J-Unit> Stroganoff, k, thx for ur help
[07:54] <dave11> Stroganoff: THNAKS
[07:54] <dave11> sorry caps
[07:54] <dave11> Stroganoff: thanks
[07:54] <Survivorman> tarrus, its not there. frostwire.com.
[07:54] <kelvin911> anyway i dont wanna install anything, i find that when i click browse windows are looking for *.theme file so i i wonder if i can import custom theme
[07:55] <adrian_2002ca> clarkGamble: this is exciting, i am gonna get a computer help channel set up in my area
[07:55] <clarkGamble> ok
[07:55] <kelvin911> is mandriva mandrake?
[07:55] <e-rod> Hola! :)
[07:55] <cwillu> I think so
[07:56] <Survivorman> mandrake changed its name because of copyright issues to mandriv
[07:56] <Survivorman> *a
[07:56] <adrian_2002ca> clarkGamble: is there a possibility of running scripts for my channel or does freenode take care of that>?
[07:56] <kelvin911> i still have the mandrake linux 10 CD somewhere
[07:56] <Sheff> can I install multiple desktop environments?
[07:56] <e-rod> que hay de nuevo? :)
[07:56] <Flannel> Sheff: Of course
[07:56] <n-iCe> e-rod aquí es en inglés ve a #ubuntu-es para español
[07:57] <e-rod> ooh! ooh! :D
[07:57] <Sheff> k, thanks
[07:57] <e-rod> allright! :D
[07:57] <e-rod> I am gonna try my english :)
[07:57] <maestrotech> Is there anyway to make it so that the file system in ubuntu recognizes special characters (ò, è, `, à, etc.) in the filenames?
[07:57] <clarkGamble> adrian_2002ca, #freenode,aks there
[07:57] <ishbibenob> cwillu, looks like a no go, unless I did something wrong
[07:58] <e-rod> #ubuntu-es is boring...
[07:58] <ishbibenob> I went through the whole home folder deleting them all and still doesnt work correctly
[07:58] <bluefrog> maestrotech: it already does it
[07:58] <Stroganoff> maestrotech: doesn't it do that already?
[07:58] <e-rod> everybody is sleeping in spain...
[07:58] <adrian_2002ca> thanks man
[07:58] <unop__> maestrotech, sure, check out the utf8 option specific to your filesystem in the mount manpage
[07:58] <cwillu> ishbibenob, sorry, I should have mentioned, did you relog after each attempt?
[07:58] <maestrotech> no, i am copying my files over from one disk to the other, and it is converting all "ò, è, `, à, etc." to "?"
[07:59] <bazhang> e-rod: this is not a chat channel; join #ubuntu-offtopic for that thanks
[07:59] <cwillu> (unlike most things in gnome, those changes wouldn't take effect until the responsible problem restarted)
[07:59] <ishbibenob> no, so I need to log in and out after every attempt
[07:59] <bluefrog> maestrotech: it' scoming from windows?
[07:59] <e-rod> what is the topic? :)
[07:59] <cwillu> maestrotech, what filesystem?
[07:59] <bluefrog> maestrotech: or another old linux
[07:59] <bazhang> e-rod: this is the ubuntu support channel thanks
[07:59] <cwillu> e-rod, this is techsupport
[07:59] <unop__> e-rod, read the topic :)
[08:00] <e-rod> sorry I am lost :-ÃL
[08:00] <maestrotech> bluefrog: you are right.
[08:00] <maestrotech> bluefrog: cwillu:  I am a dummy
[08:00] <maestrotech> :(
[08:00] <miturburu_> helo
[08:00] <maestrotech> thank you for listening to me whine about nothing. lol
[08:01] <Stroganoff> maestrotech: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:01] <Stroganoff> maestrotech: add iocharset=utf8 to the ext3 options
[08:01] <Stroganoff> or set the charset you are using on windows
[08:02] <unop__> i think windows uses utf8 or utf16, can't remember which
[08:02] <maestrotech> Stroganoff: Thanks man, i think i'm all set. I was looking at an older copy. As soon as someone said, "It does support it". I tried recopying it...and it worked with the extended charset.
[08:02] <maestrotech> i should have checked.
[08:02] <imexil> Hi. Anybody of you having experiences of the saturday update for HHbeta breaking the usage of ndiswrapper? It worked with the pure beta version.
[08:02] <Stroganoff> unop__: no it uses ISO locales
[08:02] <Stroganoff> i think
[08:02] <maestrotech> i made a poor assumption. thank you again guys.
[08:02] <Stroganoff> at least the non-english versions of windows
[08:03] <bazhang> imexil: that is in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[08:03] <Stroganoff> anyway iocharset=utf8 might be worth a try
[08:03] <imexil> ok i'll go there than. sorry for spamming then. ;)
[08:04] <nic_> cwillu, do you think this problem would be in direct relation to a file change i have made. For instance I was downloading something last night and it gave me trouble, you think if I locate whatever I have done in the last 24 hours I can eliminate the problem?
[08:04] <unop__> Stroganoff, errm, i dont think so - i've seen characters render fine in filenames that aren't in my local chararset
[08:05] <joecurlee> hi all... I'm getting a very odd bug with windows in ubuntu 7.10
[08:05] <Stroganoff> yep unop__, its utf16
[08:05] <Stroganoff> at least internally
[08:05] <joecurlee> on restart I don't have borders on windows... title bar is gone... terminal is all white with no text
[08:05] <cwillu> probably
[08:05] <cwillu> nic_, may not be the fastest way though
[08:05] <n-iCe> where do I get a autopackage support?
[08:05] <unop__> Stroganoff, yea, i remember reading about that somewhere
[08:05] <bazhang> joecurlee: with compiz on?
[08:05] <cwillu> nic_, did you relog after each change?
[08:06] <nic_> ok, so far still doing it
[08:06] <nic_> not finished
[08:06] <Stroganoff> k cu
[08:06] <joecurlee> bazhang
[08:06] <joecurlee> no
[08:06] <cwillu> nic_, you can do like half of them at a time
[08:06] <joecurlee> bazhang: i removed compiz still got problem
[08:06] <Sinnerman> joecurlee: do you have you tried logging on from another account to see if that error is still there?
[08:06] <cwillu> nic_, if one set fixes it, then restore half of them, etc
[08:06] <nic_> ok
[08:06] <nic_> got it
[08:06] <n-iCe> where do I get a autopackage support?
[08:07] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: autopackage?
[08:07] <n-iCe> that's why the files ask for
[08:07] <joecurlee> this is definitely related to compiz though... the only way to make it work again is if I go to appearance > visual effects and choose "normal" (changing from none) and then choose "use previous settings" which sets it back to "none"
[08:07] <slackd00d> n-iCe: what distro do you use?
[08:07] <n-iCe> xubuntu
[08:07] <joecurlee> it is as though ubuntu is trying to use an old compiz settings file
[08:07] <slackd00d> n-iCe: http://geocities.com/slackd00d/
[08:07] <joecurlee> Sinnerman: no I haven't tried that
[08:07] <slackd00d> i have all the packages there
[08:08] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: what files are asking for autopackage?
[08:08] <e-rod> quit GoodNight! :)
[08:08] <Sinnerman> joecurlee: what graphics card do you have?
[08:08] <joecurlee> nvidia 7 series
[08:08] <joecurlee> i believe 7600
[08:08] <slackd00d> thats what i have
[08:09] <n-iCe> Starnestommy well
[08:09] <joecurlee> with compiz i have a bit of tearing... i don't care about compiz though. This is just a media box
[08:09] <Sinnerman> joecurlee: im not entirely sure, but i noticed someone posting something about a fix for nvidia cards in #compiz-fusion about loss of window decorations, it might be worth asking in there.
[08:09] <n-iCe> trying to open the executable appears this message:
[08:09] <Armadillio> how would i apply this patch? http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/3/2/26
[08:09] <joecurlee> Sinnerman: ok thanks i'll try it
[08:09] <n-iCe> the autopackage support code could not be installed
[08:10] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: what executable?
[08:10] <n-iCe> it can be manually downloaded and installed by running the installation script locatd in the downloaded archive
[08:10] <Sinnerman> joecurlee: i'll grep my logs, see if i can find it again. im no expert, but that might be your solution.
[08:10] <n-iCe> Starnestommy amsn
[08:10] <kelvin911> i also have 7600 gt
[08:10] <n-iCe> is a xmessage that's whay it says above
[08:10] <bazhang> Armadillio: for gutsy?
[08:10] <nerv> #sdad
[08:10] <Armadillio> for hardy. but i think it can be applied on hardy.
[08:10] <Armadillio> it should be the same principle
[08:10] <bazhang> Armadillio: then this is not the channel for that
[08:11] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: did you install amsn through apt-get install amsn, the package manager, add/remove, or something else?
[08:11] <Armadillio> ok, it's for edgy then.
[08:11] <n-iCe> Starnestommy from the site, because using apt-get doesn't install the lastest version
[08:11] <joecurlee> Sinnerman: thanks
[08:12] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: this is why I always go through the package manager.  I'm not sure how to get the site's version of amsn working
[08:13] <nic_> cwillu, if I have this backed up in a folder on the desktop will it still read it as being in the home folder or should that work?
[08:13] <n-iCe> Starnestommy: http://www.autopackage.org/docs/howto-install/
[08:14] <bazhang> n-iCe: why install from somewhere outside the repos? what new function does this version have?
[08:14] <tarrus> what's the directory path for the desktop?
[08:14] <n-iCe> bazhang a lot
[08:14] <Starnestommy> tarrus: /home/<username>/Desktop
[08:14] <tarrus> Starnestommy:  thanks
[08:15] <bazhang> n-iCe: such as?
[08:15] <cwillu> nic_, no it won't
[08:15] <tsukasa> whats a good program for coding php?
[08:15] <n-iCe> such as webcam support, nudges, voice chat, display, etc
[08:15] <n-iCe> tsukasa notepad
[08:15] <nic_> wont work, or wont see it as being in the home folder
[08:15] <cwillu> nic_, "~/Desktop/Backup/.gconf" won't get used as the gconf directory, it has to be in home
[08:16] <tiltedwindmills> dammed frustrating.  7.10 will not give me the right resolution on my laptop screen and 8.04 screws up on usb microphones shared with vmware.
[08:16] <bazhang> n-iCe: and these will work in ubuntu? or only in amsn itself
[08:16] <nic_> ok
[08:16] <jacekowski> hi, i have problem with bluetooth
[08:16] <n-iCe> bazhang both?
[08:16] <tsukasa> n-iCe, with syntax highlighting and stuff
[08:16] <bazhang> n-iCe: you know this how?
[08:16] <n-iCe> the thing is why can't I open the executable
[08:16] <n-iCe> bazhang I used it before
[08:16] <bazhang> n-iCe: with ubuntu?
[08:17] <n-iCe> yes
[08:17] <tiltedwindmills> any idea how I can make 7.10 give me full screen resolution?
[08:17] <cwillu> w3c rolls in its grave :p
[08:17] <bazhang> n-iCe: then you need no help?
[08:17] <jacekowski> some time ago i had that python bluetooth autodetection
[08:17] <cwillu> bah, wrong room
[08:17] <jacekowski> (kde), but i killed it
[08:17] <jacekowski> and now i can't find that program
[08:17] <jacekowski> anybody can give me exact filename?
[08:17] <tiltedwindmills> sb 1640x1050 and not 1280x7something?
[08:18] <jacekowski> that was nice feature to start automaticly kbluetoothd
[08:18] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: what do you have installed currently?
[08:18] <tiltedwindmills> 7.10
[08:18] <n-iCe> bazhang I need how to run the exectubale because isn't working anymore...
[08:18] <bazhang> n-iCe: what isnt working anymore?
[08:18] <n-iCe> nevermind
[08:18] <n-iCe> im gonna do it from the command line
[08:19] <tiltedwindmills> must have usb audio fed to virtual machine so I backed off to where that works
[08:19] <Peddy> can anyone please tell me of any experiences upgrading from gutsy to hardy?
[08:19] <tarrus> why is installing apps for linux so difficult?  I can't seem to install the java JRE i got from the java website
[08:19] <gatestone> Suggestion: re-resign the login dialogs so that this will not happen to (me) anymore: while people are watchingm you log in, you make a mistake, yoo re-login and you accidentally type your password to the visible username field...!
[08:20] <bazhang> tarrus: better to get them from the repos; that is very easy indeed
[08:20] <unop__> !hardy | Peddy
[08:20] <ubotu> Peddy: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[08:20] <bazhang> !brainstorm | gatestone
[08:20] <ubotu> gatestone: Post your ideas for ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!
[08:20] <unop__> tarrus, you should install java from the ubuntu respositories - much easier and is supported better that way
[08:21] <unop__> !java | tarrus
[08:21] <ubotu> tarrus: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[08:21] <n-iCe> oops new error: Checking for required C library versions ... OK
[08:21] <n-iCe> Checking for X ... OK
[08:21] <n-iCe> Checking for TCL Scripting Language ... failed
[08:21] <n-iCe> -------------------------------
[08:21] <n-iCe> Error: Could not find 'TCL Scripting Language'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 6.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'tcl'.
[08:21] <tiltedwindmills> bazhang:  any pointers for my resolution problem?
[08:22] <unop__> !pastebin | n-iCe
[08:22] <ubotu> n-iCe: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[08:22] <n-iCe> oops damn copy paste
[08:22] <n-iCe> yeah yeah I know
[08:22] <bazhang> please dont flood n-iCe
[08:23] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: what card do you have and what drivers and how were they installed
[08:23] <gatestone> thx bazhang, I will
[08:23] <LukeL_> Anyone know what the next codename for 2009 will be?
[08:24] <bik> i want to install yahoo messenger bt itz not
[08:25] <bik> wer i can find libssl0.9.6
[08:25] <Survivorman> intrepid ibex is after heron, not sure after that LukeL_
[08:25] <tiltedwindmills> hmm video built into laptop so I don't really know anything more than ati something.  the 7.10 install process installed non-free drivers
[08:25] <LukeL_> bik have you tried pidgin? It has support for yahoo I believe
[08:25] <n-iCe> where can I get it?
[08:25] <ishbibenob> about finished
[08:25] <cwillu> something jaguar I bet
[08:26] <bazhang> @apple lawsuit
[08:26] <cwillu> :p
[08:26] <Survivorman> jolly juicebox
[08:26] <LukeL_> jealous jaguar
[08:26] <ishbibenob> yeah tell me about it
[08:26] <cwillu> gelatinous jellyfish
[08:26] <LukeL_> I don't know what an intrepid or an ibex is..
[08:27] <LukeL_> I better do some research
[08:27] <bazhang> !info pidgin | n-iCe
[08:27] <ubotu> n-ice: pidgin (source: pidgin): graphical multi-protocol instant messaging client for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.2.1-1ubuntu4.1 (gutsy), package size 589 kB, installed size 1720 kB
[08:27] <cwillu> kinda like a deer I think
[08:27] <cwillu> maybe a moose
[08:27] <tiltedwindmills> ATi Mobility Radeon X1600  found it.
[08:27] <Survivorman> intrepid is fearless, ibex is like a deer with antlers
[08:27] <n-iCe> bazhang I mean the tcl
[08:27] <n-iCe> package
[08:27] <mEck0> Hi! If I'm the owner to a folder, it it possible to set permissions so that another user can both read and write to it, though, a second user can only read from my folder?
[08:28] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: my question has three parts; what drivers and how installed
[08:28] <blue-frog> mEck0: with acl yes
[08:28] <LukeL_> cwillu that's an impala :P
[08:28] <Survivorman> *big antlers; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex
[08:28] <n-iCe> i think i did it
[08:28] <LukeL_> oh
[08:28] <tiltedwindmills> the 7.10 installer suggestes non-free drivers and I used them
[08:29] <mEck0> blue-frog: sorry, but what is acl?
[08:29] <tiltedwindmills> how can I find out what drivers it installed
[08:29] <blue-frog> mEck0: access control list tools
[08:29] <mEck0> blue-frog: okay, thx, *googling*
[08:29] <LukeL_> thanks Survivorman
[08:29] <blue-frog> mEck0: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/ACL/linux-acl.html
[08:30] <unop__> mEck0, you can do them without ACLs .. using groups and ownership ..
[08:30] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: check the restricted drivers manager; is that in use/enabled?
[08:30] <mEck0> blue-frog: thx a lot!
[08:30] <Survivorman> np LukeL_
[08:30] <maestrotech> hey guys, what does this command do?:  "find ./ -name *.db | awk rm"
[08:30] <mEck0> blue-frog: but it's not possible without acl just with chmod right? as I understood it
[08:30] <cwillu> maestrotech, probably deletes a bunch of files
[08:31] <unop__> maestrotech, that's a shoddy command, removes all *.db files (recursively) from the current directory
[08:31] <blue-frog> mEck0: not what you want to do
[08:31] <tiltedwindmills> yes, it is in use and installed ati accelerated graphics driver and wifi driver
[08:31] <unop__> mEck0, not just chmod, you need groups, so you need chgrp
[08:31] <maestrotech> cwillu , unop__: that's what I thought it did....but the files seem to still be there.
[08:31] <mEck0> blue-frog: ok
[08:31] <mEck0> unop__: I see
[08:32] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: and you want to up the resolution? what is the precise nature of your problem
[08:32] <maestrotech> unop__: but the first time i ran it...i heard the hard drive rumble.
[08:32] <maestrotech> unop__: I'm scared.
[08:32] <maestrotech> lol
[08:32] <unop__> maestrotech, you probably need this.  find ./ -name *.db -exec rm '{}' \;
[08:33] <unop__> maestrotech, i dont think "awk rm" does what it appears to be doing there, i'm not very used to awk but i guess that's invalid awk syntax
[08:33] <Peddy> does anyone know where I can find the plugin shown here (the terminal window one): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/2394773080_c74ba27f87_b.jpg
[08:33] <unop__> maestrotech, but find still will look for all those files (which is why you hear your drive spin)
[08:33] <bazhang> Peddy: for gutsy?
[08:34] <ishbibenob> cwillu, Since I am waiting for my virtual box file to still backup let me ask you a question, once I find the file that is causing the problem will deleting it be the solution or moving it?
[08:34] <Peddy> bazhang: correct
[08:34] <Peddy> bazhang: is it even possible?
[08:34] <blue-frog> Peddy: mozilla. lightning calendar
[08:35] <tiltedwindmills> bazhang:  current resolution is 1280x1024, native is 1680x1040.   distorted screen is hard to read
[08:35] <Peddy> blue-frog: the terminal window one?
[08:35] <n-iCe> what's xubuntu?  linux-x86  linux_x86_64 , linux-powerpc, linux-sparc or what?
[08:35] <blue-frog> Peddy: oh no
[08:35] <Peddy> blue-frog: ok, thanks anyway
[08:36] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: could you pastebin your xorg.conf please?
[08:36] <blue-frog> Peddy: that's avant window navigator feature
[08:36] <tiltedwindmills> k
[08:36] <unop__> Peddy, looks like that windows just has it's "window decorations" removed .. I dont use gnome so i cant say where this is .. but have a look in tht' window's menu (right click title bar) or in the terminal's options
[08:36] <Survivorman> n-iCe, refers to computer architecture.
[08:36] <Simarson> anyone there can tell me what program i need or what to do to get 2 computers in network work togetehr
[08:36] <maestrotech> i found my mistake...i wanted  to use "xargs" not "awk"
[08:36] <Survivorman> n-iCe, what computer do you have
[08:37] <unop__> maestrotech, ouch, careful, spelling mistakes on linux can be costly
[08:37] <bazhang> http://www.xubuntu.org/ n-iCe
[08:37] <blue-frog> Simarson: you need a crossed ethernet cable or a straight cable and a hub
[08:37] <Peddy> unop__: isn't it pointing out from the dock, though? I'm pretty sure its connected to it
[08:38] <n-iCe> oh
[08:38] <maestrotech> unop__: indeed.
[08:38] <Peddy> blue-frog: oh yes, I know its AWN. Sorry :P
[08:38] <blue-frog> Peddy: shows the window when hovering the mouse on the icon
[08:38] <n-iCe> Survivorman intel inside pentium 4
[08:38] <maestrotech> unop__: my new command doesn't work either because of spaces in the directory name.
[08:38] <maestrotech> argh.
[08:38] <n-iCe> emachines
[08:38] <Survivorman> x86
[08:38] <unop__> maestrotech, yep, thats another thing, you have to handle spaces well, or that can be disastrous too
[08:39] <Survivorman> n-iCe, x86
[08:39] <maestrotech> unop__: I think i'm going to hurt myself tonight. ;)
[08:39] <tiltedwindmills> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62390/
[08:39] <unop__> maestrotech, find ./ -iname "*.db" -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[08:39] <n-iCe> thanks!
[08:39] <Survivorman> n-iCe, you're welcome
[08:40] <clarkGamble> unop__, yaaaa,that is a very cool and long command,man
[08:40] <tiltedwindmills> simarson:  what were you thinking about when you said "work together"
[08:40] <unop__> maestrotech, or much better.  find ./ -iname "*.db" -exec rm '{}' \;
[08:40] <_maw> any suggest a notebook wireless NIC with good linux compatibility?
[08:40] <maestrotech> unop__: what you initially stated. ;)
[08:40] <gatestone> bazhang, I did post that to Brainstorm. Thx for you, voted and commented also other things, and became a brainstormer! Hooray for this community!
[08:40] <krey> hi everyone
[08:41] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: it reports your card as : Generic Video Card is that correct? and you are using glx?
[08:41] <krey> i need to know how can i change the resolution of the screen from the terminal
[08:41] <tiltedwindmills> bad hardware detect
[08:41] <bazhang> gatestone: glad to be of assistance ;]
[08:42] <tiltedwindmills> the card is a  ATi Mobility Radeon X1600 256 MB GDDR3
[08:42] <tiltedwindmills> or so sez the docs
[08:42] <damo23> krey: xrandr --screen 0 --size 1024x768 --rate 60
[08:43] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: how about trying sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and entering the correct info? use defaults or leave blank when you dont know
[08:43] <maestrotech> unop__: goodnight unop__, thanks for your help.
[08:43] <gatestone> Btw, here is another brainstorming idea ;-) People who don't have much tech competence could just hang around here and praise and support others! Just being nice and some more niceness could make this channel even a better place!
[08:43] <tiltedwindmills> trying that
[08:43] <krey> thanks damo23 i will try
[08:44] <bazhang> gatestone: that would create a flood most likely making here unreadable--nice sentiment though
[08:45] <Simarson> blue-frog: I have a cable from both comp to a router. both are on the internet. but what now? do i need a program for the share files thing?
[08:46] <ooo|ooo> Hey People!
[08:46] <ooo|ooo> I have alsways been using this to start my root-terminal: gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator. Since a few days, it hangs for about 5 minutes, until the terminal is started. Any ideas?
[08:47] <raphink> hi guys
[08:47] <ooo|ooo> hi
[08:47] <raphink> has anyone ever used /etc/hushlogins instead of ~/.hushlogin ?
[08:48] <raphink> seems not :s
[08:50] <cvd-pr> Why ubuntu dont link to the dialy beta instead of the old beta? the mayority download the old beta i then they have to download alot of updates.......
[08:50] <bazhang> cvd-pr: beta? gutsy is final
[08:50] <Simarson> anyone there can tell me how to share files with 2 comps wired together with a router?
[08:51] <raphink> Simarson: depends on the OS on these computers
[08:51] <cvd-pr> thas was just a quiestion
[08:51] <raphink> and on how often you want to share files
[08:51] <bazhang> cvd-pr: gutsy is not in beta
[08:51] <Simarson> ubuntu offcause :)
[08:51] <raphink> Simarson: is it for permanent shares or just once?
[08:51] <cvd-pr> yeah but before beta?
[08:51] <Simarson> permanent
[08:51] <Simarson> network
[08:51] <raphink> Simarson: then you can use NFS or samba
[08:52] <raphink> samba will allow you to share with Windows easily
[08:52] <cvd-pr> isay hardy
[08:52] <Simarson> they are both ubuntu no windows
[08:52] <bazhang> cvd-pr: no idea what you mean--gutsy has been out since october of last year
[08:52] <raphink> Simarson: in this case, go for samba
[08:52] <voidvoidguest> is there a better program than xvidcap for screen capture?
[08:52] <voidvoidguest> xvidcap is xcrap
[08:52] <cvd-pr> bazhang, i talk a bout the heron
[08:52] <Simarson> gfx program or terminal? samba?
[08:52] <raphink> Simarson: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:52] <blue-frog_> Simarson: system/admininstration/shared folders
[08:53] <Simarson> thx
[08:53] <bazhang> that is for discussion in another channel as you well know cvd-pr
[08:53] <hischild> voidvoidguest, try recordmydesktop
[08:53] <gatestone> This suddenly stopped working: $ sudo ntpdate
[08:53] <gatestone>  7 Apr 09:52:29 ntpdate[7046]: no servers can be used, exiting
[08:53] <cvd-pr> bazhang,  its not the OS that im talking, its the links
[08:54] <kindofabuzz> i need a proftpd guru to look at this config.  trying to get a buddies server runnin.  see anything wrong with it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62391/
[08:54] <bazhang> cvd-pr: gutsy is not in beta; you are talking about heron; that is another channel QED.
[08:54] <kindofabuzz> has directions for him =)
[08:55] <voidvoidguest> thanks for the hint hischild. i'll give it a shot
[08:55] <voidvoidguest> later
[08:57] <maek> hi all ... whats the best video driver to use with compiz ... X11, XV or OpenGL ??
[08:58] <fx|RabBit> i need to create a .deb package outa linux-uvc-source for my institute, how do i do that?
[08:59] <raphink> anyone knows how to use /etc/hushlogins here?
[08:59] <kindofabuzz> fx|RabBit: install checkinstall, then instead of doing sudo make install you do sudo make checkinstall and it will make a deb
[09:00] <fx|RabBit> that easy??
[09:00] <kindofabuzz> yup
[09:00] <fx|RabBit> niceee!!
[09:00] <hischild> fx|RabBit, yes
[09:00] <fx|RabBit> thx alot m8;)
[09:01] <tiltedwindmills> hischild: will that work for python packages??
[09:01] <maek> why don't they all do that ?? whenever I go to a webpage with software available to download they never provide a deb package
[09:01] <hischild> tiltedwindmills, it's a wrapper for installing source packages. If your python packages is from source, then you can install it with checkinstall.
[09:01] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: one more quetsion: that linux-uvc-source installs a few other packags in the process is that being considered by checkinstall?
[09:02] <kindofabuzz> fx|RabBit: well you have to have all the dependancies to make that source, the checkinstall will include it all
[09:02] <Admin__> how come xchat connets almost instally on windows but takes 1-2 min on ubuntu.
[09:02] <tiltedwindmills> all python is brm source unless it has a C extension
[09:03] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: ya saved me live dude!
[09:03] <kindofabuzz> fx|RabBit: when you do ./configure first, it will let you know what you're missing
[09:03] <fx|RabBit> kk thx m8!
[09:04] <tiltedwindmills> Im sorry to say that I've forgotten the name of the person that helped with my video problem but your suggestion worked.  many thanks
[09:04] <kindofabuzz> yeah i love checkinstall, saves time so you don't have to remake from source after you do it once, just save that deb somewhere and you have it forever
[09:04] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: success?
[09:04] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: which is exactly the point, as we are servicing about 50 computers here...
[09:04] <Admin__> how come xchat connets almost instally on windows but takes 1-2 min on ubuntu.
[09:04] <tiltedwindmills> bazhang: yes.  sucess
[09:05] <kindofabuzz> yup, there ya go
[09:05] <bazhang> tiltedwindmills: nice ;]
[09:05] <bullgard4> There are approx 150 *.db files on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer. One of them is /home/detlef/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db. I copied it in ~/tmp. What program can view this file? I tried db4.2_dump but was unsuccessful.
[09:05] <tiltedwindmills> the first reconfigure failed but on reboot it put me into another configuration utility that I was able to bludgeon into cooperating
[09:05] <kindofabuzz> fx|RabBit: suo apt-get install checkinstall
[09:05] <maek> Admin__, is it exactly the same setup ?? are you connecting to the same number of IRC networks ??
[09:06] <kindofabuzz> sudo*
[09:06] <RedScare> well, I am not happy with usplash
[09:06] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: yeah i know thx:)
[09:06] <RedScare> there is just no way to force a widescreen usplash on my laptop
[09:07] <Admin__> maek, i only really connet to chat.freenode.net and connects too quickly but under ubuntu, it takes forever. the other network i connect to is irc.dal.net that quick on either system
[09:08] <maek> Admin__, it could be that you need to DNS flush on Ubuntu ... but I don't know how to do that on Linux
[09:08] <RedScare> hm
[09:09] <maek> !usplash
[09:09] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[09:09] <Admin__> thanks for replying anyway maek i wil resolve the ip and connect to that instead, may be faster
[09:09] <RedScare> worthless ubotu
[09:10] <RedScare> gnome backlight manager doesn't work either
[09:10] <RedScare> and I can't figure out a way to make the RandR extensions that xbacklight uses integrate
[09:10] <RedScare> i don't think there is a way
[09:11] <RedScare> too many dependecies
[09:11] <hischild> wow just hit a new record: 350meg ram usage
[09:13] <rayden_77> #xbmc
[09:13] <RedScare> oh really?
[09:13] <rayden_77> yes
[09:13] <hischild> yarly
[09:13] <rayden_77> lol
[09:13] <RedScare> i just blew my vista partition
[09:13] <RedScare> boom
[09:14] <hischild> cool
[09:14] <hischild> did you make a picture of it?
[09:14] <maek> lol I haven't booted my Vista partition in like a fortnight
[09:14] <RedScare> I love and miss mine
[09:14] <RedScare> the battery life on this core2 is astounding on vista
[09:15] <RedScare> I'm somewhat disappointed by the lack of power management here
[09:15] <hischild> i had it before on my laptop ... it drained the battery
[09:15] <RedScare> really? I always got 3 1/2 hours on my 14.1 core 2
[09:16] <RedScare> ubuntu gives me 1hr45 if I'm lucky
[09:16] <hischild> ubuntu made me happy with a nice increase ... went from 1,5 to 2,5 hours
[09:16] <RedScare> intel or amd?
[09:16] <hischild> amd
[09:16] <hischild> athlon
[09:16] <icesword> !INSTALL
[09:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:17] <RedScare> yea, I've got an HP with and X2 in it
[09:17] <RedScare> runs fairly well, but kind of hot
[09:17] <hischild> athlon X2 tk-57 1,8 ghz on this end
[09:17] <RedScare> I like to be able to keep the unit in my lap for hours on end if need me
[09:17] <RedScare> tl-56 If I'm not mistaken over there
[09:18] <viorish> hy
[09:18] <unop__> RedScare, keeping anything on your lap for hours isn't a good idea .. especially if it generates heat :)
[09:19] <maek> and especially if you are a male
[09:19] <RedScare> no kidding, the AMD generates so much radiation I usually just use a text book between us
[09:19] <RedScare> i can't even feel the intel warm up
[09:19] <hischild> lol
[09:20] <hischild> i don't have a prob with my amd ... barely cool in general
[09:20] <RedScare> of course, I could just be completely temperature numb down there by now
[09:20] <hischild> *cools
[09:20] <RedScare> i think I'm going to take an air pressure hose to that amd soon and see if something can be cleaned out
[09:20] <jaffarkelshac> maek, i just connected using ip address <IP_ADDRESS>, connects instantly now under ubuntu
[09:20] <magnetron> hischild, RedScare: your discussion would be much appreciated in #ubuntu-offtopic . please join us
[09:21] <RedScare> sometimes i really think its going to set my pants on fire
[09:21] <hischild> heh
[09:21] <hischild> let's go to offtopic?
[09:21] <RedScare> yea, I'm going to head over
[09:22] <hischild> good
[09:22] <ushimitsudoki> Looking to add a 3rd monitor, would be using 2 NVIDIA 8800GTS 512 cards. 7.10 amd64. Anyone doing something like this?
[09:23] <maek> yeah its prob a DNS issue Admin__
[09:23] <jenda> I cannot play a .wmv file, apparently because the audio codec is "wma v3". I can normally play these files (ubuntu-restricted-extras installed).
[09:24] <maek> try playing it in VLC jenda
[09:24] <maek> sudo apt-get install vlc   (I think thats the command)
[09:24] <hischild> maek, yes it is
[09:25] <leo|lap> I'm looking for a nice system monitoring program, wich can log system stats at some specific hours during the day. I tried searching but all i find is graphical desktop solutions that "looks cool" :)
[09:26] <maek> hischild, VLC does play .wmv files IIRC .. not sure why it isn't playing for your setup
[09:26] <Viking667> hi all. Really quick question: ubuntu 7.04 or 7.10, I've got gstreamer-plugins-ugly and gstreamer-plugins-bad installed, yet totem still insists it can't play a dvd.
[09:26] <hischild> maek, wrong nick. It was jenda
[09:26] <Viking667> and my wxvlc is shiyte at playing the dvd.....
[09:26] <maek> oh sorry ..
[09:27] <hischild> !libdvdcss | Viking667
[09:27] <ubotu> Viking667: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:27] <bullgard4> unop__: There are approx 150 *.db files on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer. One of them is /home/detlef/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db. I copied it in ~/tmp. What program can view this file? I tried db4.2_dump but was unsuccessful.
[09:27] <hischild> maek, np =)
[09:27] <bullgard4> There are approx 150 *.db files on my Ubuntu 7.10 computer. One of them is /home/detlef/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db. I copied it in ~/tmp. What program can view this file? I tried db4.2_dump but was unsuccessful.
[09:27] <Viking667> ubotu: thank you. stupid thing is, wxvlc will PLAY the content, mostly fine... but totem won't even look at it.
[09:27] <Viking667> I'll go check that webpage now
[09:27] <unop__> bullgard4, errm, it depends really .. what does the 'file' have to say about that  file
[09:28] <Viking667> lol.
[09:28] <maek> Viking667, ubotu is a bot
[09:28] <Viking667> thank you hischild.
[09:28] <Viking667> yeah, so I just got told.
[09:28] <maek> just to let you know : )
[09:28] <bullgard4> unop__: detlef@MD97600:~$ file  /home/detlef/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db; /home/detlef/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db: Berkeley DB (Hash, version 8, native byte-order)"
[09:29] <maek> bullgard4, all the db files are prob read by individual apps ... try using Evolution to view them
[09:29] <unop__> bullgard4, hmm, maybe you need a different utility to dump this file
[09:30] <JPSman> how do i join another IRC server?
[09:30] <bullgard4> maek: Ok, thank you for commenting.
[09:30] <chrislabeard> anyone ever installed a shoutcast sever inside ubuntu
[09:31] <maek> JPSman what IRC client ??
[09:31] <bullgard4> unop__: I will try to find another utility to view *.db files. --  Thank you.
[09:31] <Viking667> bah. I'm faced with installing xine anyhow.
[09:31] <Viking667> ta for the pointer, though.
[09:32] <bullgard4> unop__: (My native language is not English.) I suppose that 'errm' is an interjection. Does it express disgust?
[09:33] <maek> it means that someone is thinking bullgard4
[09:33] <bullgard4> Ah!
[09:33] <Viking667> no, it is "um." as in "I'm not sure I should say anything"
[09:34] <maek> no um is where you are trying to think of something
[09:34] <maek> hrrmmm or errm is the same although used in a different context
[09:34] <unop__> bullgard4, errm no, it expresses un-surety :)
[09:35] <geirha> bullgard4: if you are on gutsy, try installing db4.6-util, which is some  berkley db command-line utils. Using db4.6_dump on that .db-file might be what you want
[09:35] <bullgard4> unop__, maek: Thank you for explaining.
[09:36] <maek> np mate
[09:36] <unop__> bullgard4, yea, as geirha said db4.6_dump does indeed produce output
[09:36] <bullgard4> geirha: I already downloaded db4.2-util. I'm going to download db4.6-util. --  Thank you.
[09:36] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: have an idea how i can get checkinstall to work if i dont use make instlal in the process but m-a prepare and m-a a-i linux-uvc?
[09:37] <kindofabuzz> fx|RabBit: no man i have no idea sorry
[09:37] <fx|RabBit> kindofabuzz: kk thanx though..
[09:37] <Tim> ïðèâåò âñå
[09:37] <Tim> ì
[09:37] <Tim> but iam russian=)
[09:38] <DJones> !ru | Tim
[09:38] <ubotu> Tim: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[09:38] <geirha> bullgard4: 4.2 will probably work as well
[09:39] <Tim> DJones: thank you ;)
[09:39] <Viking667> hmm. as for what is said in the link passed to me about gstreamer, I've got all those gstreamer items installed, yet dvds simply don't work for me.
[09:39] <Viking667> *sigh*
[09:39] <maek> I have a question ... whats the best video driver under compiz .... X11 XV or OpenGL ??
[09:39] <Viking667> (well, one doesn't anyhow. not sure about the other)
[09:40] <theTrav> hello, I've got a machine in the other room that starts a vnc server when I log in to it, but I don't have any peripherals attached at the moment.  I can ssh in, does anyone know if I can get it to open an X session with a vnc server running?
[09:40] <eax_> Can anyone tell me how to enable the danish spelling corretion in OOo?
[09:41] <Viking667> meeper: I'd possibly suggest opengl, but that rather depends upon what video card you have, and what drivers are installed for it, both from a kernel and X perspective.
[09:41] <kindofabuzz> theTrav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402  read the last page, i corrected the OP's errors, but other than that, that's how i got mine working, wish i could help more, going to bed
[09:43] <marek> hello, I need xchat package for ubuntu with debug symbols, how to get it?
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> theTrav: since you don't have a monitor, to enable XDMCP, it's in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, also in that file set DisallowTCP=false and uncomment RemoteLogin
[09:43] <kindofabuzz> and then follow that guide
[09:44] <eax_> Can anyone tell me how to enable the danish spelling corretion in OpenOffice.org?
[09:44] <bullgard4> unop__: "db4.6_dump does indeed produce output" but only ASCII numbers. I'd rather read text. Is there a utility that produces text?
[09:45] <bullgard4> geirha: Yesterday I tried  4.2 but it produced (ASCII) numbers only.
[09:45] <maek> cheers Viking667
[09:45] <ishbibenob> cwillu you still on?
[09:46] <ishbibenob> I located the file it was a .conf file
[09:47] <bullgard4> eax_: I believe that it will work automatically if you have set Danish locales for your Ubuntu. At least this worked for me with German.
[09:48] <Viking667> Right. I'm outta here. Thank you.
[09:48] <geirha> bullgard4: man db4.6_dump   # try the -l and -s options
[09:48] <mmm4m5m> Help: my system suddently reboot. how to prevent it in future? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62396/
[09:48] <mmm4m5m> Help: nothing in syslog, nothing in lost&found. What else I could check?
[09:49] <eax_> bullgard4: The problem is that locaes it set to english :) And not even the english spelling correcter works :/
[09:50] <bullgard4> eax_: So your problem is not routed in the locales but rather in OpenOffice.org. And is not Danish specific.
[09:51] <eax_> bullgard4: Yes :)
[09:51] <faLUCE>  i'm trying to increas the maximum number of fds allowable for my_user; i have added this line in /etc/security/limits.conf:  my_user     -       nproc   50000 .... however after rebooting the number of procs remains the same: 1024 ... any suggestion? thnks
[09:52] <corinth> aMSN picks up my webcam, so does gstreamer properties, on the v4l2src pipeline. However, Cheese doesn't start my webcam. Help?
[09:53]  * mark[oz] away
[09:54] <alanbshepard70> I like poking around the repos to find new programs which is fun but I often run into the situation where I've installed a package and it doesn't show up anywhere, there is no shortcut/launcher for it and using terminal the file name isn't the command. How can I find out the command to launch/execute a package when the package name isn't it?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> alanbshepard70: try  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin
[09:54] <thoreauputic> note capital L
[09:55] <bullgard4> geirha: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/161741/
[09:55] <alanbshepard70> thoreauputic: Thanks I'll try it.
[09:55] <Draenom> what is a metapackage?
[09:55] <osfameron> alanbshepard70: or if you're in synaptic, right click on the package you've just installed, and look for "installed files"
[09:56] <Draenom> emacs - The GNU Emacs editor (metapackage)
[09:56] <Draenom> emacs22 - The GNU Emacs editor (Emacs 22)
[09:56] <Draenom> which one to install?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> alanbshepard70:  dpkg -L <package> shows all files - the grep looks for ones in a bin dir. For games use dpkg -L <package> | grep games
[09:56] <bullgard4> eax_: May be you can extract an error message and report it here in its full length.
[09:56] <thoreauputic> alanbshepard70: or use osfameron 's sensible suggestion :)
[09:57] <alanbshepard70> ok I'll try both. Thanks guys.
[09:57] <thoreauputic> Draenom: in simple termes, a list of dependencies - a metapackage lists packages for a task so that apt / aptitude /synaptic will install them
[09:57] <geirha> bullgard4: ok, only one database inside that file then, so -s is useless. I guess those numbers are all you get then :/
[09:58] <Draenom> thoreauputic so i need the emacs22 one?
[09:58] <akritaz> hello am having some problems with my wireless network on a compaq presario f500 i cannot get it to work. can someone help me out?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> Draenom: I have no idea :) What are you wanting to do?
[09:58] <bullgard4> geirha: Ok. Thank you.
[09:59] <Draenom> thoreauputic  i need the emacs editor
[09:59] <bullgard4> akritaz: " cannot get it to work." is no exact description.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Draenom: ah I see - well IIRC that packages is for the X ( graphical) version. If you jsut install emacs it might be the cli version
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Draenom: check the output of  apt-cache depends emacs  (and/or or emacs22 )
[10:00] <akritaz> bullgard4: it doesnt work at all it doesnt recognize any wireless connectionss and the blue led doesnt light on. i am a newbie
[10:00] <Draenom> i have no idea what you just said (... i`ve just installed my linux, so i`m here like for the first time
[10:01] <eax_> bullgard4: There is no error :/
[10:02] <hackerlittle> i need someone who can teach me how to hack shop admin and get emaillist
[10:02] <hackerlittle> i need someone who can teach me how to hack shop admin and get emaillist
[10:02] <hackerlittle> i need someone who can teach me how to hack shop admin and get emaillist
[10:02] <hackerlittle> i need someone who can teach me how to hack shop admin and get emaillist
[10:02] <unop_> !ops
[10:02] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[10:02] <XB23> lol wtf
[10:03] <Tim> what is wtf?
[10:03] <Tim> =)
[10:03] <Tim> iam noob)
[10:03] <XB23> what the frig
[10:03] <XB23> :p
[10:03] <redeslinux> hi everybody
[10:03] <XB23> only frig is sometimes a stronger word
[10:03] <XB23> :)
[10:03] <akritaz> bullguard4: ?
[10:03] <redeslinux> i need to know how can i configure the resolution of the screen from the terminal
[10:04] <damo23> redeslinux: xrandr
[10:04] <thoreauputic> redbox:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:04] <unop_> bullgard4, do you program in any language?
[10:04] <redeslinux> i was trying to start the graphical interface but the monitor doesn'work
[10:04] <thoreauputic> *cough* redeslinux ^^
[10:05] <damo23> redeslinux:  xrandr --screen 0 --size 1024x768 --rate 60
[10:05] <thoreauputic> sorry redbox
[10:05] <uChuL> a
[10:05] <redeslinux> damo23 i tried that command
[10:05] <redeslinux> but it show Can not display screen 0
[10:05] <thoreauputic> redeslinux: try the one I gave - keep your monitor manual handy to give vert and horiz synch rates etc.
[10:06] <damo23> redeslinux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:06] <thoreauputic> !fixres | redeslinux
[10:06] <ubotu> redeslinux: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:06] <mmm4m5m> Help: my system crashed. Nothing in syslog http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62396/ . What else I can check? How to enable more details in log file?
[10:08] <bullgard4> unop_: I have been developing hardware. Within this scope I programmed timers, PIOs and such devices. I do not program any more as a professional programmer does. I do sporadic programming if my Ubuntu does not hibernate properly and such things.
[10:08] <Tim> bullgard4: ëàí ëàí èäè íàõóé
[10:08] <icesword> .........
[10:09] <unop_> bullgard4, what I was getting at was, there are libraries for different programming languages that allow to load and parse the contents of a Berkeley DB File, like for e.g. http://www.unix.org.ua/orelly/perl/prog/ch07_008.htm
[10:10] <fsb_> hello
[10:10] <chrislabeard> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/playlist.pls
[10:10] <chrislabeard> george bush
[10:11] <icesword> doing what there
[10:11] <chrislabeard> counting corn
[10:11] <icesword> pls?
[10:12] <chrislabeard> por que
[10:12] <sharadg> I am facing issues in the network manager applet. Its not showing the wirless  networks. I am on hardy
[10:12] <_ruben> !hardy
[10:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[10:12] <chrislabeard> good way to discover new bands
[10:12] <DJones> !ot | chrislabe
[10:12] <ubotu> chrislabe: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:15] <cYmen> if i don't use gnome as session is there something i need to do to use multiple audio sources at once?
[10:16] <Draenom> what was the package name
[10:16] <Draenom> for skype?
[10:16] <jussio1> !skype
[10:16] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:17] <Sinnerman> if i want to prune the services that are started up at boot-time, would it be advisable to use sysvconfig, or something else? what would be my best choices?
[10:17] <akritaz> hello am having some problems with my wireless network on a compaq presario f500 i cannot get it to work. it doesnt work at all it doesnt recognize any wireless connectionss and the blue led doesnt light on. i am a newbie can someone help me out?
[10:17] <Draenom> i should reAlly get used to using channel bots ) they seem to be very neat
[10:18] <Draenom> !help
[10:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:19] <cYmen> how can i find out wether a program uses alsa or oss? is that possible? e.g. using filehandles for devices or something?
[10:19] <gatestone_> Sinnerman, start with Sys/Pref/Services (on Gutsy)
[10:20] <gatestone_> Sinnerman Sys/Adm/Services
[10:20] <Sinnerman> gatestone_: already been there, and taken a few things off. i still have about 140 running processes after a clean boot.
[10:20] <maek> akritaz some ideas: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=504255&highlight=compaq+presario+f500+wireless&page=2
[10:21] <gatestone_> cYmen, if you ever find a recent one-article explanation/overview of ALSA, tell me too!
[10:22] <gatestone_> !alsa
[10:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:24] <bk> how do i install the "mail" utility in dapper draper?
[10:24] <bk> dapper drake*
[10:26] <cYmen> gatestone_: mh you, too :)
[10:27] <powersound> hello guys am having problem with my grafic card it doesnt seem to work i think its abug anyone care to help me out ?
[10:29] <SlimG> Anyone here know of a Ubuntu(ish) WordPress theme (not Udienz's tango theme)?
[10:29] <damo23> powersound:  lspci to pastebin
[10:29] <geirha> bk: in gutsy the package is called mailx. Probably the same in dapper
[10:29] <bk> in what package can i find the "mail" command?
[10:29] <bk> geirha: ill try
[10:30] <Tim> òóò åñòü ðóññêèå?))
[10:30] <ishbibenob> cwillu, if you see this, it was some inside of .conf\startup some compiz start up thing anyway just thought I would let you know
[10:30] <powersound> damo23 2 sec
[10:30] <cwillu> ishbibenob, hey;  sorry, just had to run out
[10:30] <cwillu> ishbibenob, got it working?
[10:30] <ishbibenob> yeah, it was some xserver file
[10:31] <bk> geirha: thanks
[10:31] <ishbibenob> everything is fine now
[10:31] <ishbibenob> Thanks for all your help
[10:31] <cwillu> okay, good
[10:31] <cwillu> np
[10:31] <prohna> i was trying to install driver for radeon 8500 and now i have low resolution and cant fix it
[10:31] <thoreauputic> !ati
[10:31] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:31] <ishbibenob> cwillu, are you on this often, is this the best place for solving problems?
[10:31] <cwillu> ishbibenob, yes, and it's a decent place
[10:31] <powersound> damo23 : http://pastebin.com/m6add4669
[10:32] <cwillu> ubuntuforums and the ubuntu mailing lists tend to get more thought out responses
[10:32] <cwillu> ishbibenob, ^^^
[10:32] <damo23> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI-X GeForce Go 6100 (rev a2)
[10:32] <ishbibenob> Well I like the live help stuff, anyway, thanks again, maybe see you on here in the future
[10:32] <izzy_> hey anyone on?
[10:32] <cwillu> ishbibenob, I'm pretty much always logged in, if you message me I'll usually get back within a couple hours if I'm not around
[10:32] <powersound> damo23 : i cant use any grafics my resolution is 800x600 dont know why
[10:32] <bk> can somebody tell me excalty what this means?
[10:32] <cwillu> ttyl
[10:32] <bk> draper.2t.local : Nov 16 10:14:02 : 224081 : user NOT in sudoers ; TTY=pts/2 ; PWD=/home/krkr ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/su
[10:33] <ishbibenob> sounds good late
[10:33] <izzy_> anyone know anything about Partition disk on ubuntu server?
[10:34] <izzy_> No root file system.   No root file system is defined.
[10:34] <prohna> yea that site tells me to use the restricted driver manager
[10:34] <A[D]minS^AwaY> how to convert FAT32 to EXT3 without losing data  ?
[10:34] <izzy_> anyone got any ideas how to fix this?
[10:34] <bk> izzy_: / has to have a filesystem
[10:34] <prohna> but the manager says im not using any drivers
[10:35] <izzy_> hey bk  this is what i have
[10:35] <powersound> damo23 ?
[10:35] <prohna> it was working until i screwed with the driver lol now im stuck
[10:35] <cYmen> gatestone_: http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[10:35] <damo23> !nvidia
[10:35] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:36] <A[D]minS^AwaY> !ext3
[10:36] <damo23> !nvidia |powersound
[10:36] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:36] <ubotu> powersound: please see above
[10:36] <|Carrera> does anyone know how to get rid of the borders on the panels at the desktop in gnome? very annoying when they are not expanded.
[10:36] <izzy_> bk >  LVM vg system, LV root 8.6 gb
[10:36] <izzy_> its already got the root
[10:37] <A[D]minS^AwaY> no one know how to convert from vfat to ext3?
[10:37] <prohna> anyone else got an idea how i can get outa 600x480 resolution with this radeon 8500
[10:37] <GOfree> hi
[10:37] <_ruben> A[D]minS^AwaY: backup, change fs type, format, restore
[10:38] <A[D]minS^AwaY> _ruben, nothing else?
[10:38] <_ruben> A[D]minS^AwaY: highly doubt that
[10:38] <geirha> A[D]minS^AwaY: You can't, you have to remove the vfat, and create an ext3 in its place. All data on the vfat will be lost
[10:38] <A[D]minS^AwaY> :S
[10:38] <A[D]minS^AwaY> OK
[10:39] <izzy_> anyone g ot any idea why it says no root file system is defined   on install ?
[10:39] <asusu> hello. Is there a way to have nvidia-settings set up desktop resolution correctly every time I boot up? Currently, if I run nvidia-settings to set desktop resolution, when I reboot this doesn't get restored.
[10:40] <akritaz> damo23 i enabled the grafic card how to i change the resolution ?
[10:41] <wers> how do I make the cairo-clock lose it's black box border? :)
[10:41] <bullgard4> unop_: "there are libraries for different programming  languages that allow to load and parse the contents of a Berkeley DB File." I do not know much about Perl. What about C?
[10:42] <unop_> bullgard4, the Berkeley DB library was written in C, so sure
[10:42] <izzy_> anyone know anything about LVM configuration ?
[10:42] <kandinski> hey, I have somehow lost the ability to dim the laptop's screen using fn+fkeys, does anybody know how to reconfigure those?
[10:42] <sami> sami_, don't steal my nick!
[10:43] <akritaz> guys i have enabled my grafic card but on system>preferences>screen resolution i cant change the resolution of my screen anyone ?
[10:43] <DJones> !fixres | akritaz, This is a good starter on solving screen resolution problems
[10:43] <ubotu> akritaz, This is a good starter on solving screen resolution problems: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:44] <sami> Hi, i'v got some trouble, is there anyway to preconfigure that ubuntu should choose kdm over gdm before the install of kdm. As it is right now i'm beeing prompted for which desktop manager i want when i install KDM.
[10:44] <GOfree> hey
[10:47] <swarp74> ciao
[10:47] <swarp74> !list
[10:47] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:47] <chimp_> Is there a way to scroll up the terminal when connected to a computer through ssh (also using screen)
[10:49] <swarp74> ciao
[10:49] <swarp74> !list
[10:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:50] <akritaz> Djones?
[10:50] <karasss> hello
[10:50] <thoreauputic> swarp74: this isn't a warez channel ;p
[10:51] <h0ax>  I installed xubuntu last night on my PPC ... and i booted it up this morning and it gets to the stage were the logo appears and the little progress bar comes on ... it moves a tiny bit then doesn't move at all ... any ideas ?  there's no-one in #xubuntu i thought mayube someone here could help
[10:51] <Draenom> can I change the icons of my links?
[10:53] <emma> why has everything stopped?
[10:54] <DJones> akritaz: yes, I'm here
[10:54] <perhamlinux> hi guys
[10:54] <perhamlinux> any one here?
[10:56] <perhamlinux> wow, either I can't see any responses or ubuntu chanell is empty
[10:57] <GOfree> ! etiquette
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[10:57] <slackern> Just really quiet right now.
[10:58] <GOfree> !PM
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[10:58] <GOfree> ! language
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[10:59] <GOfree> ! channels
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[10:59] <jpatrick> !msgthebot | GOfree
[10:59] <ubotu> GOfree: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[11:00] <emma> !ops
[11:00] <ubotu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[11:01] <nalioth> emma: ?
[11:01] <emma> Something is wrong
[11:01] <emma> everything stopped and I've seen some people spamming the bot. Maybe that's what's part of it.
[11:01] <slackern> Just about what i see too :)
[11:02] <corinth> Does anyone know of a program I can use to keep two folders in sync with each other?
[11:02] <DJones> !rsync | corinth
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <prince_jammys> !info rsync
[11:02] <DJones> corinth: have a look at rsync
[11:02] <akritaz> anyone can help me out to add the horizSync and VertRefresh values to "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" ?
[11:02] <ubotu> rsync (source: rsync): fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-5ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 256 kB, installed size 516 kB
[11:02] <Ward1983_> im at school, someone has a build in atheros based wificard, so the restricted driver got installed automatically, but there no wifi interface when i do ifconfig :s
[11:02] <Ward1983_> what can be the problem?
[11:02] <corinth> DJones, thanks!
[11:03] <Frodolix> how can I uninstall xgl?
[11:04] <jpatrick> Frodolix: sudo apt-get remove xserver-xgl
[11:04] <Frodolix> jpatrick: thanks
[11:05] <Draenom> people help plz... i installed vlc player, now i have the video but no sound
[11:06] <Ward1983_> what can be the problem?
[11:06] <Ward1983_> im at school, someone has a build in atheros based wificard, so the restricted driver got installed automatically, but there no wifi interface when i do ifconfig :s
[11:06] <Ward1983_> and nmapplet doesnt show wifi
[11:10] <xoob> hi, what's the best windows (xp) emulator for ubuntu?
[11:10] <Frodoli1> how can I make compiz working without installing xgl?
[11:10] <DJones> !wine | xoob
[11:10] <ubotu> xoob: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[11:11] <xoob> DJones, thanks but the apps I'd like to run don't work with wine
[11:11] <hollow_> hello people
[11:11] <DJones> !cedega | xoob, There is also this, although I think its one that you have to pay for
[11:11] <ubotu> xoob, There is also this, although I think its one that you have to pay for: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[11:12] <Frodoli1> how can I make compiz working without installing xgl?
[11:12] <cpk1> xoob what apps do you need to run that arent working?
[11:12] <[Green]> re
[11:14] <Oli``> is it possible to move applications from one X session to another (without losing running data)?
[11:15] <xoob> cpk1, just some ms apps, internet exploder, some ide tools for school and some other crappy app
[11:17] <cpk1> I thought older versions of explorer work with wine...
[11:17] <Chousuke> Oli``: not really. :/
[11:17] <cpk1> you can always try virtualization if you absolutely needs windows
[11:17] <Oli``> xoob: IE6 runs fin under Wine
[11:18] <Oli``> *fine
[11:18] <DJones> !ies4linux | xoob, There is this, although its no officially supported
[11:18] <ubotu> xoob, There is this, although its no officially supported: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[11:18] <xoob> cpk1, ok what do you think is the best virualization?
[11:19] <achadwick> It so happens that I'm putting a package of ies4linux together, of the downloader variety (obviously). Watch this space :)
[11:19] <Oli``> xoob: VirtualBox. VMWare comes in a close second, let down by its price
[11:20] <xoob> DJones, interesting thanks for tip
[11:20] <XB23> vmware has a free version
[11:20] <Oli``> XB23: but it's rubbish compared to virtualbox =)
[11:20] <xoob> Oli``, which one is the fastest of those?
[11:20] <XB23> ive not tried virtualbox
[11:21] <xoob> that can utilize most hardware etc
[11:21] <Oli``> xoob: VirtualBox is ever-so-slightly faster in most tests.. VMWare has slightly better performing networking if I remember correctly but networking isn't an issue unless you're planning on using a full gigbit connection =)
[11:22] <Draenom> !ubuntustudio
[11:22] <ubotu> UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org
[11:22] <xoob> Oli``, thanks virtualbox it is then
[11:25] <eth01> hi hi :)
[11:26] <poison> last time I shutdown my computer the pc-speaker started screaming, is there a log for this that I should check?
[11:27] <francesco_> Hello. I have problem. I can't hear any sound from Ubuntu (I have in a second partition Windows XP, so I know the problem is not physical). It seems that alsamixer works, but I can't hear anything. Could someone help me, please?
[11:27] <nucco> francesco_: what model of laptop?
[11:28] <francesco_> I have a PC.
[11:28] <francesco_> My problem started just yesterday.
[11:28] <nucco> francesco_: oh, some intel hda soundcards exhibit that kind of behaviour. i suggest you search ubuntu forums.
[11:28] <ricanelite> im having a hard time playing .avi files with Mplayer Movie Player
[11:29] <icesword> hello
[11:29] <Frodoli1> how can I update my video card
[11:29] <nucco> francesco_: started just yesterday means it worked before then?
[11:29] <ricanelite> I downloaded the latest codecs but it stats to play and then it cuts off
[11:29] <francesco_> nucco: Yes.
[11:29] <Frodoli1> how can I update my video card's driver?
[11:29] <ricanelite> can it just be the avi file is corrupted?
[11:29] <ricanelite> Frodoli1, what type of card do you have?
[11:29] <nucco> francesco_: make sure you don't have an important slider turned all the way down in the mixer. i assume you're using gnome?
[11:30] <francesco_> I followed the procedure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting but it didn't work. It seems that Ubuntu recognizes the soundcard, but it doesn't work.
[11:30] <francesco_> Yes, nucco.
[11:30] <francesco_> nucco: What do you mean by slider?
[11:31] <nucco> francesco_: in a terminal type "lspci" without the quotes, it you should be able to tell your soundcard by reading the output. pls post its name here
[11:31] <francesco_> Ok.
[11:31] <nucco> francesco_: sliders are those things you move up or down to raise or lower the volume :)
[11:32] <francesco_> nucco: They are ok.
[11:32] <zmatt> anyone had the problem with gnome-terminal with the "n" key opening a new terminal ?
[11:32] <nucco> francesco_: find out what soundcard you have then.
[11:33] <nucco> zmatt: it means 'shift' and 'ctrl' are probably stuck down
[11:33] <francesco_> nucco: It's a sound blaster live. It uses emu10k1 as driver.
[11:33] <zmatt> nucco: checked that...they're not...
[11:33] <zmatt> weird one...
[11:33] <nucco> zmatt: maybe some accessibility feature is enabled causing the confusion?
[11:34] <nucco> francesco_: looks like you gotta check ubuntu forums
[11:34] <francesco_> nucco: I did. I did.
[11:34] <nucco> francesco_: poor tweety. lemme see what that troubleshooting page says
[11:35] <francesco_> I've also typed aplay -l and to see if Ubuntu recognizes the soundcard, and it does.
[11:36] <nucco> francesco_: a shot in the dark, but do "sudo modprobe emu10k1" in a terminal... i assume emu10k1 is the driver name.
[11:36] <francesco_> nucco: It is.
[11:37] <nucco> francesco_: for those intel cards I was telling you about, sometimes the sound fails to work after resuming from hibernate...
[11:37] <francesco_> nucco: What do you mean?
[11:38] <nucco> francesco_: i mean you should attempt a reboot :)
[11:38] <francesco_> I did.
[11:38] <francesco_> nucco: Reboot or reinstall?
[11:39] <blue112> Hello everyone
[11:39] <MindSpark> hi, I want to add a keyboard shortcut to change keyboard mapping. What do I do ? I am using xubuntu
[11:39] <francesco_> nucco: Is it possible that a virus damaged emu10k1?
[11:39] <nucco> francesco_: just try a livecd, if it works, then you know its just a misconfiguration somewhere. no need to reinstall just yet. i'm sure you'll find help from someone in here
[11:39]  * N3bunel saluta
[11:39] <blue112> I have a problem with my sound card on my laptop. lspci gives me one, put aplay -l says "No sound card found"
[11:40] <MindSpark> francesco_, I doubt it
[11:40] <nucco> francesco_: possible, but very improbable :)
[11:40] <blue112> lspci line : 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 20)
[11:40] <nucco> francesco_: you could attempt to reinstall the package that provides that driver... not sure what it is though.
[11:40] <MindSpark> technically yes, but logically no, hehe
[11:40] <GlenQuagmire> MindSpark: you have to look into xmodmap
[11:40] <MindSpark> GlenQuagmire, thanks
[11:40] <francesco_> nucco: MindSpark: Thank you for now. I´ll try so.
[11:41] <GlenQuagmire> np
[11:41] <blue112> Can someone help me :( ?
[11:41] <MindSpark> blue112, maybe you need to configure aplay ?
[11:41] <bullgard4> Why does Ubuntu provide so many different versions of DEB program packages of the Berkeley database, for example lbdb3 = 'Berkeley v3 Database Libraries', libdb4.2, libdb4.3 etc?
[11:42] <blue112> I don't think this is an aplay problem
[11:42] <blue112> I think I don't have the good driver
[11:42] <MindSpark> blue112, sound drivers on linux can run on ALSA or OSS
[11:42] <blue112> Yes
[11:42] <MindSpark> which one are you using ?
[11:42] <blue112> I'm using alsa ^^
[11:43] <fabio> ya des francais?
[11:43] <blue112> Oui
[11:43] <blue112> Mais va plutot sur #ubuntu-fr
[11:43] <fabio> ok
[11:43] <fabio> jsui news alors je conpran pa bien
[11:45] <sami> Hi, i'v got some trouble, is there anyway to preconfigure that ubuntu should choose kdm over gdm before the install of kdm. As it is right now i'm beeing prompted for which desktop manager i want when i install KDM.
[11:45] <blue112> MindScape, do you know how can I fix my sound problem ?
[11:45] <Draenom> people, where can I get cedega?
[11:45] <MindSpark> sami, get kubuntu
[11:45] <MindSpark> Draenom, www.justfuckinggoogleit.com
[11:46] <Draenom> MindSpark i found the official site but they ask for money there
[11:46] <Draenom> that really sux
[11:46] <sami> MindSpark, you obviesly don't understand my question.
[11:46] <blue112> Draenom, wine-hq.org
[11:47] <zmatt> Draenom: cedega is a pay for application
[11:47] <zmatt> but it's not that much
[11:47] <MindSpark> sami, yes obviously, would you maybe try to rephrase ?
[11:47] <MindSpark> Draenom, cedega is for money when you want support to compile it
[11:47] <Draenom> and if i don`t?
[11:48] <MindSpark> Draenom, then you go through the entire process yourself. I am not sure if that's still the policy though
[11:48] <sami> I have an preseeded install for an unattended install. I need kdm to work with AD interaction and need KDM to be installed w/o any questions.
[11:49] <Draenom> MindSpark  will i be able to play CS through wine?
[11:49] <MindSpark> Draenom, I don't know. Never tried that, but you can give it a shot I guess
[11:49] <MindSpark> sami, you only have to install KDE once, what would be the problem to go through the installation steps ?
[11:50] <sami> KDM not KDE
[11:50] <m4gnu5> lskdfjsdf
[11:50] <bowen0507> hey, i have a python script that performs some ifconfig operations which you need to be a super user. These scripts happen at boot in ~/.xinitrc which is linked to ~/.xsession
[11:50] <blue112> Draenom, yes, that's works
[11:50] <sami> I don't want KDE
[11:50] <m4gnu5> ah - i am in ;-)
[11:50] <bowen0507> I have a problem where the script fails because it isn't a super user
[11:50] <Draenom> blue112 is it hard to configure it all?
[11:51] <sami> When i have GDM and try to install KDM i get a question shellwise which DM i want to use. I want to skip that question telling it to only choose KDM automaticlly
[11:51] <MindSpark> sami, oh, sorry, my bad. Concentration problems this morning.
[11:51] <blue112> Draenom, no, just go appdb.wine-hq.org, search counter strike
[11:52] <blue112> and there should be a nice howto :)
[11:52] <francesco_> nucco: I'm back. It is a misconfiguration problem. The audio with the live cd worked.
[11:52] <GOfree> ...
[11:52] <sami> MindSpark, no, problems
[11:52]  * nucco scratches head
[11:52] <GOfree> gotta go...
[11:52] <MindSpark> sami, did you have a look at /etc/xorg ?
[11:53] <nucco> francesco_: do you recall doing anything that could have caused it?
[11:53] <Draenom> blue112  ok thanks bbut its winehq not wine-hq
[11:53] <MindSpark> sami, that would be /etc/X11 on some machines
[11:53] <francesco_> nucco: I've downloaded files using aMule. :D
[11:53] <chimp> Using dual screens both with seperate x sessions, is it possible to send programs between screens, and how?
[11:53] <sami> MindSpark, That still not the same thing :).
[11:53] <nucco> francesco_: ROTFLOL
[11:53] <sami> It's an apt question..
[11:54] <sami> Can i for example pipe a answer to apt.
[11:54] <Dr_future> .seen me
[11:54] <damo23> chimp: sounds a bit tricky since theyre separate x sessions
[11:54] <nucco> francesco_: not sure which way to lead you. are you by chance inside #alsa ?
[11:54]  * nucco guesses that a channel called #alsa exists :)
[11:54] <JPSman> is it possible to use my linksys AP as my wireless router?
[11:55] <blue112> Can someone help me to make work my sound ?
[11:55] <chimp> damo23: The only reason i have seperate x sessions is that i dont like that it stretches the screen on the twin view thing
[11:55] <francesco_> nucco: No. But it seems that alsamixer works. I can regulate the sliders, and Ubuntu recognizes the soundcard. It just doesn't work.
[11:55] <francesco_> join #alsa
[11:55] <francesco_> Sorry.
[11:55] <martiini> how do I create a shortcut of a ntfs partition folder on gnome desktop?
[11:55] <chimp> is it possible to have both screens able to work on one session, and allow one screen to then go onto another workspace?
[11:55] <unop__> sami, what do you mean exactly?
[11:55] <nalpha> hello... just want to know, there is a way to run a graphic program in spesific user logged ini. Example: I connect to my client with ssh, and i Run mozilla firefox http://www.detik.com like that... any clue?? thanx?
[11:55] <jtravnick> is there a way to make rhythmbox to play more random? I start it with shuffle but its seems like it plays the same songs over and over again would think with over 600 songs it would take a little longer before it plays the same ones again
[11:55] <damo23> chimp: i successfully did that using xfce
[11:55] <Frogzoo> chimp: it's possible, multiple screens requires hacking your xorg.conf, it's fiddly
[11:56] <ricanelite> i just install miro and i dont see it on my application>internet section
[11:56] <nucco> francesco_: yeah, i've seen that kind of behaviour before, but in my case, it was because alsa didn't properly support the card. which isn't the issue in this case.
[11:56] <JPSman> damo23: what is an x session?
[11:56] <ricanelite> how can I make it a icon shortcut so i wont have to type in every time in the terminal or Alt+F2
[11:56] <sami> unop_, When i'm apt-getting kdm i get an ncurses gui that wants me to choose GDM or KDM. I don't want that gui i just want it to automaticlly choose kdm over gdm. no questions asked
[11:57] <damo23> JPSman: its the graphical interface you use instead of typing at a terminal
[11:57] <francesco_> nucco: What does it mean? Does it mean that typing "aplay -l" you didn't see your soundcard?
[11:57] <chimp> Im using that nvidia-settings thing to help configure it
[11:57] <chimp> but it gives errors sometimes, but not others
[11:57] <sami> unop_, apt-get changes the init scripts for boot but if i change them manually the question will still popup.
[11:57] <chimp> its odd
[11:57] <unop__> sami, sure, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow debconf .. and choose 'high'
[11:57] <chimp> going to restart x
[11:57] <simplynam> hi to all
[11:57] <jaffarkelshac> i am trying to auto mount my nfts paritions, i read i should put (auto default 0 1) into the fstab and someone else said (nfts default 0 0) which is right and what does 0 0 stand for.
[11:58] <icesword> simplynam, hi
[11:58]  * simplynam needs bestwishes and prayers for Love
[11:58] <maek> hey simplynam
[11:58] <jaffarkelshac> hi
[11:58] <pharoh> hey,when using anjuta,eclipse en almost all the IDE's,why is the hello world important?can a new programme be written that doesn't need hello world?
[11:58] <sami> unop_, What does that exactlly do?
[11:58] <nucco> francesco_: i saw the cards, but there was no sound. a sound card on the hp 530 laptop. never bothered to fix it, the owner just went back to winxp :(
[11:58] <JPSman> Is it possible to use my linksys Access Point as a wireless router?
[11:58] <unop__> sami, some question just cannot be ignored tho .. as they are important to how your system is configured
[11:58] <Frogzoo> JPSman: sure
[11:58] <unop__> sami, apt-cache show debconf .. and you'll get an idea
[11:58] <blue112> pharoh, the hello world test is just a test ^^
[11:58] <JPSman> Frogzoo: Can you point to some documentation?
[11:59] <blue112> pharoh, when everything works ok and you see "Hello world" on your screen, you can delete the helloworld lines ^^
[11:59] <francesco_> nucco: Typing "aplay -l" the program lists a lot of "subdevices". I don't know what a subdevice is, but could that be the problem?
[11:59] <Frogzoo> JPSman: there's a web interface on those things on <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:59] <pharoh> blue112, ah.okay,i'll be ryt back...
[12:00] <sami> unop_, Yes, well wont that affect all questions? Because the default answer would be GDM and i want it to change to kdm
[12:00] <francesco_> nucco: To go back to Windows XP is very sad. :D
[12:01] <MindSpark> what is the installation script called that is run after apt-get downloads packages ?
[12:01] <JPSman> Fragzoo: heh would you know my username and password by chance?
[12:01] <unop__> sami, if you have the GDM already (or KDE for that matter) and you install another DM (whether directly or through another package) .. it is quite logical to be asked whether you want the new DM to take over so as to avoid some nasty surprises (this isn't an example of where things can go very wrong, but there are instances where you must tell the installer just what to do)
[12:01] <nucco> francesco_: i feel confident that it would work in 8.04 though. i'm certain i read somewhere that the problem was fixed in a newer version of alsa, but i never bother to hand-compile my software :)
[12:02] <damo23> JPSman: admin pw admin
[12:02] <unop__> s/KDE/KDM/
[12:02] <JPSman> damo23: nope not letting me in
[12:02] <sami> unop_, I guess i will just have to prompt the user for an answer and tell them what to choose
[12:02] <unop__> sami, setting the debconf priority to high ensures that you are only asked questions that are critical (and need some input from you)
[12:02] <francesco_> nucco: It's strange that it stopped working suddenly.
[12:02] <damo23> JPSman: username: admin  pw: password
[12:03] <JPSman> damo23: nope.  I even tried WRT54G as the username
[12:04] <damo23> JPSman: google it
[12:04] <jaffarkelshac> does anyone know how to setup wireshark
[12:04] <damo23> JPSman: default password
[12:04] <nucco> francesco_: did you try the section on loading a working configuration?
[12:04] <unop> sami, if you dont want the user to be prompted (i.e. you know exactly what you are doing) you can always modify the package's postinst script to reflect those changes and create a modified package
[12:05] <jaffarkelshac> the default JPSman is admin admin
[12:05] <sami> unop, Yes i'm about to do that. But do you know which file that it altered when the question it popped.
[12:05] <francesco_> nucco: What section? If Ubuntu recognizes the soundcard it's useless to reinstall the driver, right?
[12:05] <LL00> hello
[12:05] <LL00> someone use ipv6?
[12:05] <Frogzoo> jaffarkelshac: sudo apt-get install wireshark - done is done
[12:06] <b0x> i diden think thay used v6 yet
[12:06] <damo23> JPSman: reset the router to defaults by pressing the reset button, then the default user/pw admin admin should work
[12:06] <jaffarkelshac> i know how to install, i mean  how to confiugure under interface i put eth0 but does not work
[12:06] <nucco> francesco_: yes (with some reservations).
[12:06] <nucco> francesco_: Loading a working sound configuration
[12:06] <nucco> francesco_: at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[12:06] <francesco_> nucco: I've tried "Getting the ALSA drivers from a *fresh* kernel".
[12:07] <unop> sami, depends on the preinst and postinst scripts .. they should exist in /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[12:07] <Stormx2> francesco_: What problem are you having?
[12:07] <nucco> francesco_: that's quite a leap :) if it doesn't work on and off randomly, then you don
[12:07] <francesco_> Stormx2: I can't hear any sound.
[12:07] <sami> unop, What i can do is that i add a pipe to apt-get install kdm < whatever and let it choose by default and add a script to change run level after isntalle.
[12:07] <nucco> francesco_: sorry (pushed enter by accident.) you don't need to do that.
[12:07] <sami> install*
[12:07] <Stormx2> francesco_: Could you do a uname -r ?
[12:07] <Stormx2> tell me what you get.
[12:08] <francesco_> Stormx2: What is an uname -r?
[12:08] <nucco> francesco_: run that in a terminal
[12:08] <Stormx2> It's a command. open up a terminal.
[12:08] <Stormx2> write that in, hit enter.
[12:08] <francesco_> 2.6.22-14-generic
[12:09] <Stormx2> Okay. Nevermind
[12:09] <unop> sami, errm, i'm not sure that will work because what happens in an instance like this   echo answer | apt-get install kdebase kde4foo kde4bar kde4baz kdm .   which package does 'answer' pertain to? :)
[12:09] <Stormx2> I had my suspcisions it might be a-386 kernel screwing things up.
[12:09] <francesco_> Is that the version of my Ubuntu?
[12:09] <Stormx2> It's your kernel version
[12:09] <nucco> francesco_: i gotta go. hope Stormx2 is able to help you more than i did. cheers.
[12:09] <Stormx2> which is the most basic part of ubuntu on which everything is built.
[12:10] <francesco_> nucco: Stormx2: The "problem" is that I can hear the audio from le live cd.
[12:10] <Stormx2> But not from your install? Hmm.
[12:10] <sami> unop, i could have it to preinstall kde-base and all the deps first and add kdm at the last point
[12:10] <francesco_> Stormx2: Yes.
[12:10] <francesco_> Stormx2: It started suddenly.
[12:10] <unop> sami, i'm sure apt-get is not built that way
[12:11] <Stormx2> francesco_, did it start while you had ubuntu loaded up, or did you reboot and it stopped working?
[12:11] <sami> unop, I tired it on a test VM and it seemd to work.
[12:11] <francesco_> I think it was loaded up. I left the PC downloading stuff from the internet.
[12:12] <francesco_> When I tried to open a mpg file using Totem it stopped working.
[12:13] <Stormx2> Okay
[12:13] <blue112> How can I now what is my processor in a terminal ?
[12:13] <Stormx2> It could be something locking your sound card.
[12:13] <Stormx2> blue112: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:13] <francesco_> Typing aplay -l i see a lot of "subdevices", but I don't know what a subdevice is. Could that be the problem?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> francesco_: if you reboot then fire up totem is it ok?
[12:14] <francesco_> Stormx2?
[12:14] <chimp> Hey, For this dual screen thing I want atm, Im trying to have it so that both screens operate on the same session, but are free to move onto another workspace without causing the other window to move, im using nvidia-settings does anyone know how to achieve this?
[12:14] <francesco_> Even rebooting the system, the problem remains.
[12:14] <Stormx2> Hm.
[12:14] <blue112> Stormx2, thanks
[12:15] <Stormx2> francesco_: if you open up a terminal, then use aplay to try and play a file, it should give you an error message.
[12:15] <Stormx2> Could you do that, and give me the error message?
[12:15] <francesco_> Stormx2: How do I play an audio file using aplay?
[12:17] <francesco_> Stormx2: It seems to work. No error message. It seems silly. It seems I left the audio mute, but I didn't.
[12:17] <Stormx2> It says that it's playing?
[12:17] <francesco_> Stormx2: Yes.
[12:17] <Stormx2> Hmm.
[12:17] <Frogzoo> chimp: if you google about, you're bound to find examples
[12:17] <JPSman> be right back hopefully
[12:18] <Stormx2> francesco_, launch gnome-volume-control, either from terminal or Alt + F2
[12:18] <laith> What is the best web design application available for ubuntu
[12:18] <Pici> !best | laith
[12:18] <ubotu> laith: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.
[12:18] <Pici> !html > laith (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[12:18] <Stormx2> laith: nano, emacs, vim, gedit, kedit, etc.
[12:18] <JohnPinWa> Laith: You might want to look at bluefish.
[12:18] <francesco_> Stormx2: Ok.
[12:19] <chimp> Frogzoo: I'm trying to google for it, problem is most of the setups are either a seperate x-session, or the screen is expanded
[12:19] <Stormx2> francesco_: Then go to edit > preferences. Select anything that you think might have to do with audio output, including PCM
[12:19] <Stormx2> Make sure they're unmuted.