[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:  backup befor formatng. :) of course..  No idea on fixing your install... its always a good idea to havbe bacjups
[12:29] <dreambox> Dr_Willis : just asking cause the pack of dvd's costs like 30-40E here..
[12:29] <dreambox> Dr_Willis dont feel like paying that !
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  over 'serial' is the tricky part.. theres several ways to do serial connections
[12:29] <Semtex> where would be the best place to get help with "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted:
[12:29] <Semtex> (ESC for recovery shell)
[12:29] <Semtex> swap: waiting for UUID=19ec2898-8e83-4b1c-9b8f-8790d42fd56a" error?
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  i use redundant stacks of external usb hard drives now.. DVDs are not worth the hassle for me any more
[12:29] <aanderse> anyone here ever use module-assistant to build their nvidia drivers?
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  for the cost of dvd media.. i can get a exteranl 1 tb hd..
[12:30] <detrix> Hello everyone.  upgraded to 9.10 a few days ago.  just realized, that I have no sound. I had sound with 9.04.  I am not sure why.
[12:30] <dreambox> Dr_Willis yeap totally.. so UNetbootin, Universal Netboot Installer .. is this what we want
[12:30] <DigitalShankar> hi tux friends
[12:30] <phixxor> is it save to enable the nvidia driver in jockey? or will it break the system again?
[12:30] <coz_> aanderse,  no  however you want to manually install the nvidia driver correct?
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  thas  a good tool to make a booteable flash drive..
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:  the pendrivelinux.com site has other tools and guides.
[12:30] <aanderse> coz_: yeah i used module assistant to build version x, but now i want to use it to build version x
[12:30] <dreambox> so it should be a usb stick, not an external usb disk..
[12:31] <Subby83> Can anybody confirm, there is no way to install Karmic without home encryption when using a manual partioning?
[12:31] <aanderse> coz_: i don't know how to use module-assistant to specify the version it builds
[12:31] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: ive decided to do ppp to get networking on the windows box, then ill ssh over that ppp line with putty (?) with X forwarding enabled, and try to start an X program. Shame i can't try these things yet, i need my dad to order me another serial-usb
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> dreambox:   unetbootin i think can doit to external hd. but ive never done it that way
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thats how it would be done basically.  and it will be nasty slow i imagine.. perhaps not very useable at all.
[12:31] <typhoon> phixxor: ok, cool. well at least you're not alone :)
[12:31] <PsychoMario> ill find out when i try :) thanks for the help
[12:31] <Balug> Hello, can i ask something. cause im a bit stuck :$
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  but  for windows.. you need a X server also.. not just putty. ie:  xming
[12:32] <phixxor> typhoon: I'm usually not anymore :P
[12:32] <thunderbird> hello
[12:32] <coz_> aanderse,  you need to be sure you have build-essential installed  then  download the nvidia driver .sh install pacakge    ctrl+alt+F1   log in     server gdm stop    ..I believe... cd to location of driver...sudo NVIDIA........sh  pacakge  ..answer yes to all questions then reboot
[12:32] <woble> shite "desktop effects could not be enabled"
[12:32] <PsychoMario> i can't remember how i did it before, ill look into it. i just need to find out how to get ubuntu to listen on the serial and give the ppp connection...
[12:32] <thunderbird> I'd need some help with that too (Desktop effects)
[12:32] <woble> upgraded from jaunty to Karmic thunderbird?
[12:32] <[OpenSys]> hello, i upgrade to the new 9.10 and now my snd-emu10k1 was a sound very metalic, like digital sound when is playing. As i can solve this ?
[12:32] <Balug> Cause im having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:32] <thunderbird> yes
[12:32] <coz_> thunderbird,  make sure your video drivers are installed properly
[12:33] <woble> thunderbird intel 965?
[12:33] <thunderbird> I have a Radeon 9600
[12:33] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  This makes Karmic almost unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:33] <woble> coz_ there are no proprietary drivers in the list for me
[12:33] <woble> Halabund disable Ipv6
[12:33] <coz_> woble,   you have intel then?
[12:33] <thunderbird> I've tried both fglrx and the radeon driver, but it doesn't show up in the proprietary drivers for me either
[12:33] <LSD|Ninja> when the installer says its "configuring apt", what is it doing exactly, "apt-get update" ot whatever? In other words, if you're on a slow network connection it'll take forever and six days?
[12:33] <woble> coz_ yes, intel 965
[12:33] <darrenoc> hey guys can anyone give me a quick recommendation on whether to go 64bit or 32bit for karmic
[12:33] <coz_> Compiz requires at least a Radeon 7000 (or M6). From the 7000 to the X1950, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. All cards newer than the X1950 must use the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[12:34] <jrib> darrenoc: how much ram do you have?
[12:34] <darrenoc> i have a core 2 duo but always go 32bit anyway
[12:34] <darrenoc> jrib 2gb
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  if the machine can handle 64bit.. use 64bit. :)
[12:34] <Halabund> woble, how would I do that?  The method I tried didn't help (comment #30 I think from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/417757 )
[12:34] <twisted-ferrett> ello can anyone help me with a desktop problem on 9.10 please IM me
[12:34] <Subby83> Has anybody managed it to install karmic without home encryption?
[12:34] <sdfsd> Do i bother upgrading to 9.10 ? there that many new features is it stables ?
[12:34] <darrenoc> compatibility issues???
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  i use all 64bit on my home lan now.
[12:34] <Halabund> woble, (not sure it's #30, it takes ages to load any page from any new domain)
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  not very many thsat ive seen.
[12:34] <spiritof76> darnoc I wouldn't go 64 bit with ubuntu
[12:34] <coz_> sdfsd,   9.10  is passable
[12:34] <jrib> darrenoc: you don't really need 64bit then, but 64bit issues are pretty much non-existant now...
[12:34] <spiritof76> firefox flash don't work real well
[12:34] <PsychoMario> i don;t have encryption... i got an option in the installation process, i chose no
[12:34] <darrenoc> will I see a performance boost
[12:34] <coz_> sdfsd,   you get new libraires  and stuff but booting is ugly and messy in my opinion
[12:35] <Halabund> woble, No, I tried comment #32.  Is that the right way to do it?
[12:35] <darrenoc> I develop in Java and C++.. im told il see better performance
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  for my video encoding - yes - i do see a boost
[12:35] <detrix> I am thinking of going back to 9.04
[12:35] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:35] <dj_> hey guys this is my screnn resolution how to fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/1650363
[12:35] <Subby83> PsychoMario: did you use manuell partitioning?
[12:35] <darrenoc> what about general usage?
[12:35] <phixxor> jrib: well almost non-existant :P
[12:35] <thunderbird> so you're saying I should use the fglrx driver?
[12:35] <PsychoMario> Subby83: nope, just the defaults
[12:35] <sdfsd> coz_, i thought they said there would be boot speed up ?
[12:35] <dj_> jrib:this is my screnn resolution how to fix this http://www.pastebin.ca/1650363
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> darrenoc:  if the pc is idling at 1% cpu ussage 99% of the time.. does it matter. :)
[12:35] <Eyesis> hi, my amarok why can't play songs? (karmic)
[12:35] <twisted-ferrett> hello can anyone help me with a desktop image problem on 9.10 please IM me if the can
[12:35] <jrib> !fixres > dj_
[12:35] <Subby83> PsychoMario: I am using manuell and there isno option :(
[12:36] <jrib> !pm | twisted-ferrett
[12:36] <krishna> How do i forward ports for my deluge torrent client ??????????????????
[12:36] <spiritof76> sdfsd 9.10 works real good or most people
[12:36] <darrenoc> ok maybe I'l try it
[12:36] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:36] <darrenoc> is there anything else I need to think about I might be forgetting
[12:36] <darrenoc> or just go ahead and install
[12:36] <phixxor> krishna: that usually depends on your rounter, not your os
[12:36] <PsychoMario> Subby83: oh, i havnt used manual for ages, i cant really be bothered to set it up :) i just let it choose for itself
[12:36] <babak> when i want install mercurial from synaptic this error show http://paste.ubuntu.com/305852/  what do i have to do?
[12:36] <Tiders> Do you think that a tablet that says it only supports Windows OSs would work on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <krishna> phixxor, ?
[12:37] <twisted-ferrett> i have installed 9.10 and cannot change the background from black to any kind of image can anyone help please
[12:37] <sdfsd> ok , I upgrade .. how much free space i need i only have 2 gb left on my hard drive this enough ?
[12:37] <dj_> jrib:this  :http://www.pastebin.ca/1650368  så ser ut min xorg  this is my xorg i upgraded to 9.10 now my graphic card is not working
[12:37] <PsychoMario> krishna: http://portforward.com/
[12:37] <Subby83> PsychoMario: I was afraid that my home is too small so I wanted to set it on my own
[12:37] <russss> hi, I've just upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic and the sound is broken (again). I've tried the usual steps to try and diagnose it, but it's got me stumped. (the underlying device works fine, it's a pulseaudio issue)
[12:37] <spiritof76> darranoc are you upgrading or new install
[12:37] <Halabund> woble, how can I disable IPv6?
[12:37] <krishna> phixxor, in xp, i got proper portforwarding without configuring any. but here it always says "no incoming connections"
[12:37] <darrenoc> spiritof76 new install, im on Mint at the moment
[12:37] <jrib> babak: you've mixed repositories or installed .deb's manually not intended for your version of ubuntu
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  'only supports' is missleading...
[12:37] <krishna> PsychoMario, my modem is not listed there :( what shall i do now ?
[12:37] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, What do you mean?
[12:37] <ntnrozen> ok, it took me some time to notice, but i got no Sound!, is it possible to fix that?
[12:37] <[OpenSys]> i put the new 9.10 and now my snd-emu10k1 was a sound very metalic, like digital sound when is playing. As i can solve this ?
[12:38] <PsychoMario> krishna: i dont have any expierience with modems
[12:38] <Thihi> Hmmm. Does anyone have any idea why ubiquity in Karmic doesn't show me my /dev/sdb (eventho gparted does)?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its all intel/normal hardware .. dont expect to call the company 1-800# and get any support.
[12:38] <phixxor> krishna: there are ways computers get around router port forwarding, such as upnp, but port forwarding will definitely work in ubuntu
[12:38] <LSD|Ninja> [OpenSys]: open your PC, take out the BSLive, grab an axe and smash it :P
[12:38] <babak> jrib: now how can install mercurial?
[12:38] <spiritof76> damaroc I did upgrade from 9.04 went real smooth
[12:38] <thunderbird> also, I just noticed my soundcard has stopped working. this new release seems to be kinda buggy, no?
[12:38] <Eyesis> please help me in amarok
[12:38] <phixxor> krishna: google search for deluge port forwarding, and you'll probably find a good guide
[12:38] <Thihi> sdb is my boot disk and has my current grub2 along with two partitions with windows and karmic beta installed.
[12:38] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Are there any tablets supported in Ubuntu?
[12:38] <krishna> phixxor, ok..
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  ive seen web sites selling linux tablets.. so Yes.
[12:39] <phixxor> krishna: don't worry, it's usually pretty easy!
[12:39] <sdfsd> hah does anyones sound card work after an upgrade?
[12:39] <[OpenSys]> LSD|Ninja, no... i love this card, in old versions it works
[12:39] <obg_> Hi, does anybody know whether it will be possible to upgrade straight from Hardy Heron LTS to Lucid Lynx LTS?
[12:39] <krishna> phixxor, i like deluge more than transmission... deluge has good gui :P
[12:39] <anatolich> URGENT! Need help with GRUB2 during Karmic installation! Please!
[12:39] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Any chance you could point me to any... Im not looking for an artist one just for note taking
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> sdfsd:  i always do clean installs
[12:39] <ntnroz> do you guys all have sound? (hp pavilion)
[12:39] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: you were right, the option was "Use password for login and accessing the home directory"
[12:39] <LSD|Ninja> [OpenSys]: heh, every Creative PCI card has sucked in one way or another
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  id have to say hit google  i recall some site with '76' in the name that had linux machines
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  :) thats a tad missleading I guess...
[12:39] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow (15-30 sec) when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  This makes Karmic almost unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:40] <phixxor> krishna: heh, transmission is my favorite, but I haven't tried deluge yet.
[12:40] <PsychoMario> Subby83: the default settings for me are: 8.65Gb swap, 289.44Gb /
[12:40] <krishna> phixxor, mm! ok
[12:40] <Semtex> right somehow I've made my filesystem readonly
[12:40] <Subby83> Dr_Willis; Yes, I thought without this option, the enrypted directory is accessed without password, and not that it isn't encrypted ;)
[12:41] <krishna> phixxor, do you know a way to check whether port is forwarded or not ??
[12:41] <[JackD]> PsychoMario: if you ever had to use 8.65gb of swap space you machine would be slow as hell
[12:41] <frostburn> Halabund, use a different dns server
[12:41] <Thihi> Gnaaaa, this is driving me crazy :P Damn ubiquity.
[12:41] <Semtex> anyone how how I can make it writeable again?
[12:41] <aaron11> Hello I have a burnt DVD disc and I want to upgrade from it. Does anyone here know how to upgrade from a DVD disc. Thank You!
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  doing an install in virtualbox. and i dident even notice that option
[12:41] <thunderbird> Semtex, try a chown
[12:41] <PsychoMario> [JackD]: that was the default, i dont do manual partitioning
[12:41] <thunderbird> recursive, and target /
[12:42] <phixxor> krishna: sometimes bittorrent clients will let you do that in the preferences... otherwise I saw a connection-checker-torrent on the internet a while back -- you could try searching for that
[12:42] <[JackD]> better to have more ram and no swap ;)
[12:42] <cheery> gah, after all I have troubles with nvidia drivers. :(
[12:42] <caio> why my gnome-panel is so ugly now? http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1355/karmicgnomepanel.png
[12:42] <Subby83> Dr_Willis: But it is the default (encryption), probably it is in te final only, you said you used beta
[12:42] <phixxor> krishna: to actually set up port forwarding you need to log into your router, and that's what you'd need a guide for
[12:42] <obg_> Semtex, word of warning though, some directories need to be owned by root. So if you do a recursive chown on the entire system, you'll eventuallt get error messages.
[12:42] <torjehoa> Anyone who can help me with mounting an isofile, please?
[12:42] <lavish> hi all! Is there anyone using remastersys on karmic? I'd like to be sure if it's supposed to work or not
[12:42] <obg_> Hi, does anybody know whether it will be possible to upgrade straight from Hardy Heron LTS to Lucid Lynx LTS?
[12:42] <saleem> how can install winrar
[12:43] <cheater99> hi guys
[12:43] <phixxor> torjehoa: usually it's "sudo mount -o loop isofile.iso"
[12:43] <jrib> !rar > saleem
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Subby83:  i am using final iso in virualboxx and dident see the option. I did how tell it to automatcally partition the drive.. so that may bypass the question
[12:43] <spiritof76> what is safe way to run fsck ?
[12:43] <krishna> phixxor, i entered my ip address in firefox. it asked for password and username.. i entered both.. then a page appeared.. but it had no word called "port forward" :(
[12:43] <cheater99> i have just run the update manager and it has a HUGE list of updates. some of them are deselected and i can't select them. why is that?
[12:43] <jrib> babak: well did you do any of the things I mentioned?
[12:43] <Bodsda> Hi, I'm running Jaunty with dual monitors. After about 20 - 30 minutes my screens go black, like a screen saver or a power saving mode. How can I stop this or find out whats causing it? I don't think it is a setting on the monitors, I think it is a configuration issue
[12:43] <babak> jrib: no
[12:44] <Semtex> ok what the hell has happend?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  thers the screen savers AND theres  the power savers.. check both the settings for them.
[12:44] <thunderbird> Krishna, it might be called port triggering, forwarding, on something along these lines
[12:44] <phixxor> krishna: it's labeled differently for many rounters.. I think mine was under security settings or something
[12:44] <babak> jrib: i can't understand your mean
[12:44] <thunderbird> and yes, its location may also differ
[12:44] <Semtex> I done a distro upgrade and now eveything is read-only?!?!
[12:44] <penthief> I've just upgraded and my laptop can barely startup without freezing. Anyone else with this problem?
[12:44] <jrib> babak: pastebin the following: 1) the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list* 2) the result of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy python mercurial »
[12:44] <Balug> I'm having a problem with wubi.. When I reboot, and i select Ubuntu it says No Wubildr.. does someone know how to fix that. or what is wrong?
[12:44] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: cheers - I have changed monitor sleep from 40 mins to never. Hope this works, cheers dude
[12:44] <phixxor> penthief: could you describe your problem?
[12:45] <wsch> can somebody help me get grub working? i get no error whatsoever because it allmost immediately gives me itc CLI
[12:45] <spiritof76> is fsck safe to run ?
[12:45] <Halabund> Since I upgraded to Karmic from Jaunty, DNS lookups are unbearably slow (15-30 sec) when I connect through the university's VPN (I need to do that to access the internet).  Is anyone else seeing this problem? This makes Karmic practically unusable.  Does anyone have any idea how to fix it?  I've been already trying for 3 days now, and wasted many hours googling for a solution, but still couldn't fix it.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  i noticed befor it would kick in the screen saver.. id wiggle mouse.. then it would power down the monitor. :)  it can be weird
[12:45] <penthief> phixxor, when it boots, I get prompted for the keyring password, then it fails after connecting to Wifi
[12:45] <wsch> im unable to install linux.... this has NEVER happened before
[12:45] <krishna> phixxor, i dont have a static ip.. so it will come ?
[12:45] <Semtex> anybody know what the '/tmp: waiting for (null)' error i get on bootup is?
[12:45] <[OpenSys]> LSD|Ninja, solved... i was instaled a new mixer and removed the digital output
[12:45] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: haha, that would be irritating.
[12:45] <torjehoa> phixxor: yes, I've gotten that far but that only makes it accessible for root, ownership of the directory changed to user #400... so I cant access it without being root
[12:46] <ntnroz> does anyone here got audio issues? i got no errors, but also - no sound
[12:46] <krishna> phixxor, a DSL router i have from nokia siemens
[12:46] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Do you think Wacom (the biggest tablet manufacturer) would work on Linux?
[12:46] <cheater99> guys why are there items in my update manager that i can't select? what does this mean?
[12:46] <phixxor> krishna: sorry, what about a static ip?
[12:46] <Guest28961> fgt you here?
[12:46] <shredder12> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307643  some help plz...
[12:46] <Subby83> Bye everybody
[12:46] <penthief> phixxor, fails as in screen freezes and nothing works except a hard reboot
[12:46] <smacfarl> help! After installing 9.10 on a dual boot system I load into the grub2 command console. What went wrong?
[12:46] <phixxor> penthief: your whole computer fails?
[12:46] <babak> jrib: this is sources.list   http://paste.ubuntu.com/305867/
[12:47] <aaron11> Hello I have a burnt DVD disc and I want to upgrade from it. Does anyone here know how to upgrade from a DVD disc. Thank You!
[12:47] <krishna> phixxor, but i saw a similar in portforward.com ... but the screenshot there has some options underwhich one can find portforwarding.......... for my, it is not showing that at all.. i have checked all in that page..
[12:47] <PsychoMario> what has replaced /etc/inittab in 9.10?
[12:47] <diddy> Where can I download the alternate CD for Ubuntu 9.10? I want the one that allows full OS encryption. I can only find the normal Desktop ISO.
[12:47] <Sagaci> aaron11: it needs to be an alternative install disc
[12:47] <rohdef> is there some useful tools for dual monitoring?
[12:47] <Guest28961> anyone else about for help plz?
[12:47] <Sagaci> aaron11: alternate*
[12:48] <Semtex> hey guys I have a question, if I install a 64-bit distro if ubuntu can I still use all the 32-bit apps?
[12:48] <Sagaci> !ask | Guest28961
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  for what exactly?
[12:48] <phixxor> torjehoa: where are you mounting it? could you post the command?
[12:48] <ntnroz> so i'm the first one to have audio issues
[12:48] <aaron11> Sagaci: How do I get an Alternate DISC
[12:48] <Halabund> Is it possible to automatically downgrade to Jaunty from Karmic, or is a complete reinstall needed?
[12:48] <ntnroz> heh
[12:48] <ebouza_> Does anyone know how to report that the keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com is not responding to request
[12:48] <Bodsda> Semtex: yes, but most have 64bit versions
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> Semtex:  i do here. :) thers a few apps that dont work.. but i can only think of 1. :)
[12:48] <babak> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305869/
[12:48] <rohdef> eg. I would like to set monitor 1 as workspace 1 and monitor 2 as workspace 2
[12:48] <penthief> phixxor, I don't have the problem when ctrl-fX-ing to a terminal. But when I switch to gnome it suddenly fails.  Just about working but with no title bars now.
[12:48] <shredder12> etc->grub.d has only 20_memtest script .... is it normal??
[12:48] <PsychoMario> rohdef: no can do i dont think
[12:48] <Guest28961> fgt was helping me to revove a ipv6 (or something) but hes gone offline and im new to ubuntu and dont know what the hell im doing!
[12:48] <Sagaci> aaron11: Bittorrent etc
[12:48] <shredder12> or should it have more scripts??
[12:48] <krishna> what command must i enter to find my ip address ?
[12:48] <speedhunt3r> guys ubuntu 9.10, does anyone see the update notifier icon ever? i haven't seen it on the panel yet
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:   i got about 6 scripts in there here.
[12:49] <jrib> babak: lsb_release -c
[12:49] <PsychoMario> krishna: ifconfig
[12:49] <atmaslo27> is anyone using a 'NVidia GeForce 9100 m G'... is the new NVidia rest. driver better than the last???
[12:49] <rohdef> PsychoMario, bummer
[12:49] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and couldn't find an option to boot into ubuntu in grub
[12:49] <aaron11> Sagaci: Can you give me the link to the torrent file?
[12:49] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, generally to enable more possibilities
[12:49] <phixxor> penthief: hmm, that's really strange! I don't know what it could be, but maybe someone else might
[12:49] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: I think its because of not grub scripts
[12:49] <babak> jrib: jaunty
[12:49] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a hell of a time getting my remote to work :( - no /dev/lirc0 for hauppage TV card - used to work fine before upgrade . any ideas?
[12:49] <diddy> Where can I download the alternate CD for Ubuntu 9.10? I want the one that allows full OS encryption. I can only find the normal Desktop ISO.
[12:49] <saleem> all cam chat site not open in fire fox
[12:49]  * ebouza_ Does anyone know how to report that the keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com is not responding to request
[12:49] <aaron11> shredder12: Are you running LiveCD
[12:49] <Sagaci> aaron11: hold a tick
[12:50] <ntnroz> speedhunt3r: try update-manager -d in console
[12:50] <shredder12> aaron11: no, i did a full install
[12:50] <PsychoMario> rhodef: i have dual monitors, their just joined together to give me a large display, i think you can set them up as seperate X displays (so two people can log in at once) they are the only options on nvidia cards
[12:50] <[OpenSys]> atmaslo27, i have a GeForce 9500 GT e note some better performace
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  the update-grub command reads/runs those scripts to generate the proper /boot/grub/grub.cfg  -
[12:50] <aaron11> diddy: I have the same question too
[12:50] <krishna> PsychoMario, possible to show ip address alone plz?
[12:50] <rohdef> is there other advanced dual monitor settings that can be enabled? I would say there should be more settings, than to mirror displays or not to
[12:50] <jrib> babak: well why are your sources.list pointing to intrepid repos if you are running jaunty then?
[12:50] <phixxor> krishna: hmm, try looking under all the preferences/settings for port forwarding. It should be there somewhere
[12:50] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: ya, and that's why i can't even recover grub to solve the problem.... coz.. i don't have appropriate scripts
[12:50] <aaron11> shredder12: Try bazhang or Dr_Willis
[12:51] <Halabund> Is it possible to automatically downgrade to Jaunty from Karmic, or is a complete reinstall needed?
[12:51] <atmaslo27> OpenSys, I noticed its less buggy than the last one I used with Ubuntu 9.04. THanks for the input
[12:51] <jrib> Halabund: complete reinstall
[12:51] <[OpenSys]> krishna, ifconfig | grep "inet addr"
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  you could boot live cd.. chroot in, and reinstall the grub2 packages I guess... ive never had the issue. so im not sure of how to fix it
[12:51] <Halabund> jrib, thanks
[12:51] <Guest28961> :-(
[12:51] <aaron11> Sagaci: Give me the link please?
[12:51] <jrib> Halabund: well it's probably possible but completely unsupported and likely to cause frustration and hammer-wielding...
[12:51] <Sagaci> aaron11: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[12:51] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: what packages do i need to install the scripts?? any clue??
[12:52] <Halabund> jrib, I've had enough of that, that's why I want to go back to Jaunty.  Reinstall then.
[12:52] <saleem> cam chat site not open
[12:52] <wsch> can someone help me find out why grub2 wont boot? this is the FOURTH day im trying to find help
[12:52] <rm200910_> Hello, I installed 9.10 today. used to have cups-pdf in ubuntu 9.04 to create/print to PDF files. The installation removed it. Is that because there is better/newer method? Thanks
[12:52] <PsychoMario> krishna: ifconfig | grep "inet addr:"
[12:52] <gnubie> Guest28961;    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307259&highlight=ipv6     you might check here I haven't tried this myself
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> shredder12:  grub-pc perhaps
[12:52] <jrib> babak: do you understand?
[12:52] <penthief> I think I have the same problem as this person: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306926
[12:52] <krishna> phixxor, no matter what number i set.. transmission preferences windows shows "port CLOSED" only ..   transmission cannot open ports by itself :P :P ??
[12:52] <shredder12> Dr_Willis: kk.. thanks 4 the advice i will try it out...
[12:53] <atmaslo27> have a good weekend everyone. out.
[12:53] <babak> jrib: yes myself change it
[12:53] <jrib> babak: ok, why?  You need to use jaunty repos if you are on jaunty
[12:53] <PsychoMario> how do i set up my ubuntu as a dial in server. for ppp connections
[12:53] <phixxor> krishna: yes, that's right. You have to open the port from your router, and then put that port number into transmission
[12:53] <speedhunt3r> ntnroz, i'm trying to make the icon notifier come back, not upgrade to karmic
[12:53] <dj_> jrib: i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:53] <phixxor> krishna: you said you have a nokia siemens router?
[12:53] <Guest28961> gnubie: fgt was in the middle of helkping me out when he went off. still got my terminal open half done
[12:53] <krishna> phixxor, True
[12:53] <ntnroz> 3 issues for me, anyone that can help, : 1. touch pad not working 2. how do i reconfigure my Kgrub, as i used to from the Applications menu, until today 3. no audio!, and i don't get any errors, it seems like it's playing, from any media player, but no sound
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  i would check for that 'make your own isp howto'  I doubt if anyone in here will have done that. :)
[12:54] <krishna> phixxor, but it doesnt match with the one in portforward.com
[12:54] <pknight_> hey, just upgraded to 9.10 and having a hell of a time getting my remote to work :( - no /dev/lirc0 for hauppage TV card - used to work fine before upgrade . any ideas?
[12:54] <thunderbird> anybody know where to get a driver for an Intel integrated sound chip? Googling the HWID didn't bring up anything useful
[12:54] <dj_>  i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:54] <phixxor> krishna: could you find the model number on it? Different models will probably have different settings
[12:54] <rohdef> is there any shortcuts to move a window from one monitor to another?
[12:54] <torjehoa> phixxor: sudo mount -o loop /home/torje/ISO/dreamfall/isofile.iso /media/isomounter/
[12:54] <MisterNutsack> in the irc, how do i change my status to "here" /away just sets it to "away"
[12:54] <ntnroz> speedhunt3r: oops, sorry :) i misunderstood you i guess
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  you can set such shortcuts in the gnome settings (keyboard shortcuts) i recall
[12:55] <krishna> phixxor, is model number = mac number ??
[12:55] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, thanks
[12:55] <frostburn> rohdef, ctrl alt arrow key
[12:55] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: ISPConfig ring a bell?
[12:55] <phixxor> krishna: no. mac number has to do with your network. your router should have the model number written on it somewhere, like nokia 1600 or something
[12:55] <krishna> phixxor, Nokia siemens networks. . .. residential router 1600 ......... rat8hg 12vdc  700 MA .............
[12:56] <krishna> phixxor, yes yes yes. it is .. residential router 1600
[12:56] <phixxor> torjehoa: that looks right. Maybe try mounting it to /media/cdrom0 if that's a possibility
[12:56] <MisterNutsack> anyone?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  last i messed with pppd over serial was when i had my amiga.. 10+ yrs ago.. so No. :) not much about it rings any phone bells
[12:56] <iceroot> MisterNutsack: #freenode
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  you do have null-modem cable/adaptors right?
[12:56] <phixxor> krishna: ok -- can you search for port forwarding for that specific router model?
[12:56] <krishna> phixxor, ok.
[12:57] <dj_>  i upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 now my screen resoultion is 800 how to change this anyone who can assist me i am readin google it does not help
[12:57] <cg> hello. any program for base64 coding ?
[12:57] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: yep, theyr behind me :)
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: use the specific instructions ubottu gave you
[12:57] <rohdef> frostburn, nopes that's workspaces, the word monitors was meant literally
[12:57] <MrStein> Any reason the shell history does not remember the cmd line " /usr/bin/totem file:///tmp/aruk-ar-ipv6-2.sdp"
[12:57] <dj_> jrib: i got diffrent card thats not working for me
[12:57] <MrStein> ?
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: the page isn't card-specific
[12:57] <MrStein> does the leading space bithers it?
[12:57] <MrStein> bothers
[12:57] <dj_> jrib: yes it is
[12:57] <jrib> dj_: no, it's not
[12:58] <torjehoa> phixxor: still permission denied when trying to access it as a user
[12:58] <iceroot> v_v: base64 --help
[12:58] <babak> jrib: for install mercurial j have to change sources.list
[12:58] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:58] <pat_> if i add a new drive will ubuntu pick up the drive and mount it? or will i have to edit fstabv?
[12:58] <wsg> Hi, can someone help me? My micorphone doesn't work :(
[12:58] <wsg> microphone
[12:58] <iceroot> pat_: automaticly
[12:58] <sampo> buy a new mic
[12:58] <v_v> iceroot , ok thanks
[12:58] <wsg> great....
[12:58] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:58] <jrib> babak: no, to have a working system you need to change your repositries to jaunty ones.  Once you do that, you should be able to install mercurial
[12:59] <cheater99> why are there items in my update manager that i can't select? what does this mean?
[12:59] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:59] <pat_> @ iceroot: thanks
[12:59] <Dynetrekk> is there a way to virus scan a winXP partition when booting from an Xubuntu partition? e.g. with clam or something like that?
[12:59] <wsg> alsa isnt't well configuredf
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  the history feature has options to rember all lines, or changed lines, or other settings.. it could be its seeing an earlier history entry. so not rembering that one.
[12:59] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 it does not work for me
[12:59] <jrib> dj_: because you are blindly copying an example command instead of READING and UNDERSTANDING
[12:59] <wsg> in my opinion
[12:59] <jrib> dj_: and I don't need you to repeat things over and over until I respond...
[12:59] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: I can't find anything, except this: http://developers.sun.com/solaris/technotes/linuxppp.html
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Dynetrekk:  there are AV software for linux you can install that can scan windows machines.
[12:59] <phixxor> torjehoa: that is really odd! What if you tried making a new folder in your user directory and mounting it there?
[12:59] <wsg> which is the command to configure alsa? there isn't alsaconfig  in 9.10
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  check tldp.org the 'howtos'
[12:59] <MrStein> Dr_Willis: no. I just tried " echo foo" and that is not remembered either. This is a plain Live Ubuntu 9.04 CD
[12:59] <ntnroz> i'm asking again, about that i don't have audio at all, you all have sound, right?
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: on the same disk, different partition?
[13:00] <phixxor> torjehoa: I'm sorry if you've already tried all this already
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  could be history is disabled..
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: any recommendations on software? Clam?
[13:00] <babak> jrib: i test with first repositries but it say not command find
[13:00] <MrStein> Dr_Willis: no, other cmds are remembered.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Dynetrekk:  yes.. you can use it to scan anything you can access...
[13:00] <dual> After upgrading to 9.10 my NTFS external drive wont mount. Can you help?
[13:00] <jrib> babak: show me what you actually did.  I don't understand what you just said
[13:00] <Dynetrekk> Dr_Willis: great, thanks, I'll try after installing xubuntu
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> MrStein:  check the history options I guess..
[13:00] <dj_> jrib: this is my xrand http://www.pastebin.ca/1650398
[13:00] <Sagaci> dual: won't mount or won't mount automatically
[13:00] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error
[13:00] <jrib> dj_: yeah...?
[13:00] <wsch> that imfast enough to read antyway
[13:00] <krishna> phixxor, thankyou for guiding.!
[13:00] <pat_> anyone seen totem crash when trying to play an avi?
[13:01] <dual> Sagaci, wont mount
[13:01] <Asad2005> I have made a fresh install and have the old user .evolution which i copied over new user .evolution but that did not bring old settings and mail? Please help
[13:01] <dj_> jrib: how to change it
[13:01] <babak> jrib: now how can i solve this problem ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/305880/
[13:01] <Balug> Can someone help me,  after installing Wubi he says: No Wubildr
[13:01] <jrib> dj_: use the instructions in ubottu's link but actually read what it says between commands
[13:01] <phixxor> krishna: no problem -- did you get it working?
[13:01] <jrib> dj_: hint: you don't have LVDS but you have something else
[13:01] <dual> Sagaci, in gparted there's a warning sign next to /dev/sdb1 which is my external disk
[13:01] <krishna> is downloading the alternate.iso and mounting the same to upgrade to 9.10 is same as using update manager ????? because i have friends who do not have a internet connection... any suggestions ?
[13:01] <jrib> babak: did you change your repositories yet?  What is your new sources.list?
[13:02] <torjehoa> phixxor: still permission denied, the odd thing is that directory owner id is changed to 400
[13:02] <krishna> phixxor, no. but i'll .. later  /thanks
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> krishna:  in theory yes.
[13:02] <Electric|Master> When I installed Windows 7, it overwrote GRUB. Now I can't access Ubuntu. How do I fix this?
[13:02] <Balug> Guys; Why am i getting No Wubildr?
[13:02] <krishna> krishna, in practice ?
[13:02] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Electric|Master
[13:02] <dj_> jrib: http://www.pastebin.ca/1650368  can you tell me what to do here
[13:02] <phixxor> torjehoa: so when you try to mount the iso, it changes the permissions?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[13:02] <ntnroz> i\ve go a hp pavilion dv-6*, no sound for me, and i guess no hp support for linux, is it a known issue, and should be fixed soon? or did i miss something?
[13:02] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: i found one, but there is way too much stuff that i don't need. I jsut need the dialin bit
[13:02] <phixxor> krishna: alright. good luck!
[13:02] <Electric|Master> Thanks :)
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:   this is when you read and learn. :)
[13:02] <jrib> dj_: nothing.  Read the link I gave you and pretend I typed it to you
[13:03] <lockd> hmm, I wonder why SDL is trying to use DGA mouse support
[13:03] <Balug> Does someone know Wubi a bit?
[13:03] <babak> jrib: i don't change it
[13:03] <jrib> babak: you need to change all the "intrepid" to "jaunty"
[13:03] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Ok, could take a while...
[13:03] <iceroot> !wubu | Balug
[13:03] <iceroot> !wubi | Balug
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  you wanted a time waster. :) you got one.
[13:03] <torjehoa> phixxor: that is correct... and the odd thing is that it isn't even cahnging owner to root
[13:03] <dual> Sagaci, any ideas?
[13:03] <lockd> DGA mouse driver is broken with evdev
[13:03] <krishna> Dr_Willis, i first am needed to make aptoncd.iso with all updates of 9.04 from my computer... and then give him my new alternate.iso ?  then it will get proper upgradation ?
[13:03] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: well, yes :)
[13:03] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:03] <Balug> iceroot: Well i got the No Wubildr error
[13:03] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768
[13:04] <jetienne> !info ruby
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1024x768 does not work
[13:04] <krishna> Dr_Willis, sorry for my english, i dont belong to an english speaking country
[13:04] <iceroot> !details | Balug
[13:04] <jrib> dj_: why are you trying VGA-0?
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: what to try
[13:04] <jrib> dj_: what your xrandr output listed
[13:04] <dj_> jrib: VGA1
[13:04] <jetienne> ruby 4.2 :)
[13:04] <phixxor> torjehoa: I think this problem is beyond me... the only thing I can think of is trying it with another iso image to see if your .iso is corrupt maybe
[13:05] <jrib> dj_: there you go...
[13:05] <dj_> xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768
[13:05] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find mode 1024x768
[13:05] <smacfarl> I installed 9.10 on a dual boot system, when booting into 9.10 I am launched into the grub2 console, what went wrong?
[13:05] <torjehoa> phixxor: ok, thank you for your time :)
[13:05] <krishna> torjehoa, i think there is some tool for checking md5sum.. did you do that frnd ?
[13:05] <jrib> dj_: so keep reading, the page ubottu gave you tells you how to add modes iirc.
[13:05] <ntnroz> i\ve go a hp pavilion dv-6*, no sound for me, and i guess no hp support for linux, is it a known issue, and should be fixed soon? or did i miss something?
[13:05] <phixxor> torjehoa: sure thing! Try searching the forums too -- this might have happened to someone else too
[13:06] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working.
[13:06] <rm200910> Hello, I installed 9.10 today. used to have cups-pdf in ubuntu 9.04 to create/print to PDF files. The installation removed it. Is that because there is better/newer method? Thanks
[13:06] <krishna> Dr_Willis, are you not there ??? is my way ok ? if not, my frnd will kil me.. so plz ?
[13:06] <dj_> xrandr --addmode S-video 1024x768
[13:06] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find output "S-video"
[13:06] <torjehoa> krishna: no, I havn't ... meybe I should....
[13:06] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:06] <saleem> any one help abut install paltak in ubuntu
[13:06] <jrib> dj_: because S-video isn't the name of your output......
[13:06] <dj_> jrib: is it vga1
[13:06] <jrib> dj_: what did you realize last time you saw that error?
[13:07] <jrib> dj_: right
[13:07] <krishna> torjehoa, http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/winmd5sum_portable if you are in windows os
[13:07] <pechenie> hi, is there any ATI R500 (X1xxx) user on Karmic?
[13:07] <dj_> jrib: xrandr --addmode VGA1 1024x768
[13:07] <dj_> xrandr: cannot find mode "1024x768
[13:07] <iceroot> !anyone | pechenie
[13:07] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: i'm following a tutorial/howto, but it asks for /etc/inittab. now i know that isnt used anymore. what has replaced it?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> krishna:  i never bother with the cd's to upgrade my systems.. I think the alternative installer cd can work as an  'upgrade'  repository. but ive never used it as that.. the desktop cd can NOT work as a upgrade-repository
[13:07] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:07] <jrib> dj_: keep reading
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  Not sure :) depends on what its trying to do.
[13:07] <torjehoa> krishna: I think I just use md5sum filetobechecked :)
[13:08] <krishna> Dr_Willis, i know that we should not use desktop cd...... but my question was different...
[13:08] <wsch> can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  if its wanting to start things for the serial ports you may want /etc/init/*
[13:08] <phixxor> krishna: Dr_Willis : the alternate cd _can_ be used to upgrade -- just make sure you download the correct one for your system
[13:08] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: "S1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty ttyS1" it runs/respawnd the mgetty prog
[13:08] <jetienne> so how stable is the 9.10 ?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  make a new entry/file in /etc/init/  like shown for the other consoles..
[13:08] <dj_> jrib: i dont understand this section There are several ways to make xrandr customizations permanent from session to session: a) .xprofile, b) kdm/gdm, c) xorg.conf. Each of these mechanisms will be discussed in turn
[13:08] <smacfarl> ANyhelp with grub2? Anyone?
[13:08] <BlouBlou> jetienne: totally
[13:08] <krishna> phixxor, ok.. before giving my frnd alternate 9.10.iso. i should give him all updates till date in 9.04.. right ?
[13:08] <iceroot> !anyone | smacfarl
[13:09] <krishna> phixxor, or is this step not needed ?
[13:09] <jrib> jetienne: once it's released, it's stable.  i.e. no more non-security related changes
[13:09] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: so; ttyS0.conf?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> PsychoMario:  thats as good a name as any :)
[13:09] <jrib> dj_: you read too far ahead.  Read the line after the "addmode" command
[13:09] <Balug> iceroot: Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:09] <jetienne> jrib: i was thinking about bug fixing
[13:09] <phixxor> krishna: it's recommened, but I'm not sure if it's actually needed. That's a very good question to ask this channel!
[13:09] <PsychoMario> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[13:09] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86)
[13:09] <St0n3-C0l> Enjoying Xubuntu :)
[13:09] <St0n3-C0l> 9.10
[13:09] <jrib> jetienne: bugs.ubuntu.com and release notes are your best bet
[13:09] <wsch> i dont know whats wrong with my grub2, so can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:09] <pechenie> i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:09] <jetienne> jrib: ok let me rephrase
[13:10] <dj_> jrib: i am done with that i adde moded
[13:10] <jrib> dj_: and were you able to change the mode now?
[13:10] <jetienne> q. how 9.10 release is going ?
[13:10] <geekk1d> guys need help please! I cant get my cube to rotate using my scroll button ?
[13:10] <blankhead> how do i enable automatic login in 9.10
[13:10] <phixxor> do you absolutely need to upgrade to the latest 9.04 packages before using the alternate cd to upgrade?
[13:10] <krishna> phixxor, even my update manager has 300+ mb of updates.. but its not updating.... after entering password.. it says "fix broken first" and in synaptic , it shows no broken packages to fix... now what say ?
[13:10] <cg> hello. any tool to convert between defferent base ? eg. i want to convert a string of hex like '61626361' to lettters
[13:10] <boomer84> Hey guys, that weird button with the square wavey icon on the bottom left of my keyboard isn't outputting anything when I try to assign it as a shortcut, anyone got any ideas?
[13:10] <St0n3-C0l> jetienne: Not really sure, how it's going but certainly for me Xubuntu 9.10 working well :) using livecd.
[13:10] <dj_> jrib: xorg.conf
[13:10] <sassyn> hi
[13:10] <jrib> cg: pick your favorite programming language?
[13:10] <jetienne> St0n3-C0l: ok
[13:10] <jrib> dj_: I asked a yes or no question...
[13:11] <ntnroz> HP doesn't have linux support, right?
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l> and on intel i810 :)
[13:11] <sassyn> does 9.10 support dom0 xen ?
[13:11] <bazhang> ntnroz, sure it does
[13:11] <St0n3-C0l> display is there, something which Kubuntu 9.10 RC missed it.
[13:11] <iceroot> ntnroz: depending on the hardware
[13:11] <dj_> jrib:yes
[13:11] <phixxor> krishna: try checking with the commandline: open terminal and type "sudo apt-get install -f" without the quotes
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> !info bc
[13:11] <iceroot> St0n3-C0l: use the final
[13:11] <pechenie> i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:11] <sassyn> I want to use 9.10 server as a DOM0
[13:11] <sassyn> with XEN can i?
[13:11] <iceroot> sassyn: yes
[13:11] <jrib> cg: bc should work if you want something in your shell too
[13:11] <krishna> phixxor, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1343 not upgraded.
[13:11] <iceroot> sassyn: why not?
[13:11] <cg> jrib: that will be too much  :) i just want a short shell script or util
[13:12] <wsch> i dont know whats wrong with my grub2, so can someone help me find out whats wrong with grub? it boots into its CLI and doesnt give me any error.
[13:12] <sassyn> iceroot: casue the kernel musy xenable!
[13:12] <cba123> geekk1d, When you press the button, or when you scroll?  Install compizconfig-settings-manager or ccsm, and the option should be in there, they either call it button2 or button3 depending on your mouse.
[13:12] <phixxor> krishna: did you already start upgrading to 9.10?
[13:12] <sassyn> I don't know if it support it?
[13:12] <jrib> !repeat | wsch
[13:12] <geekk1d> cba123, when i scroll
[13:12] <iceroot> sassyn: there is xen-support until 2.6.18 imo
[13:12] <iceroot> sassyn: from
[13:12] <cg> jrib: thanks
[13:12] <krishna> NO .. i still have jaunty .... and downloading torrent alternate.iso
[13:13] <luca> !it
[13:13] <smacfarl> iceroot: Asked twice already. I installed 9.10 as dual boot. Rather than loading the grub2 menu when I select a created ubuntu option from easybcd, I end up in the grub2 console. Don't know how to use grub2 console. ls for example is an unrecognized command. Currently in live-cd looking at grub.cfg which looks ok, but doesn't explain why grub2 loads to console rather than menu.
[13:13] <sassyn> Yep, I know but it want to use <IP_ADDRESS> with xen based kernel
[13:13] <jrib> cg: echo 'obase=16; 12' | b
[13:13] <phixxor> krishna -- you shouldn't have that many packages waiting to be upgraded... I don't know why that happened
[13:13] <jrib> cg: echo 'obase=16; 12' | bc
[13:13] <krishna> phixxor, i always install updates daily
[13:14] <jrib> dj_: what don't you understand exactly about the other section?
[13:14] <iceroot> smacfarl: i dont scroll the whole channel to see if you asked a real question before. just always use a real question and not "does anyone..."
[13:14] <dj_> jrib:xrandr --addmode DVI-1  instead of dvi-1 i add vga1, but what is this dvi-0 do i get there vga-0
[13:14] <rohdef> is there a command to put the displays to sleep?
[13:14] <iceroot> smacfarl: also see #grub
[13:14] <grawity> rohdef: Try xset dpms force off
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> rohdef:  the xrandr command can do that also.. i think
[13:14] <blankhead> how do i enable automatic login in 9.10?
[13:14] <cba123> For some reason, my screen gets pixelated and I don't know why, seems to be some times when I play media, karmic nvidia 190 drivers, happened when I had jaunty and 185 drivers too http://imagebin.ca/view/HN8QHY.html
[13:14] <smacfarl> #grub
[13:14] <jrib> dj_: DVI-1 is the name of your display.  xrandr lists your displays
[13:14] <krishna> phixxor, but now, it says 380 mb to be updated... i enter your command and also entered autoremove command... but still update manager says "fix broken first" but i have no broken in synaptic
[13:14] <cg> jrib: it's ok if the num is lt 16
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> blankhead:  the gdm login manager config tool has a optiopn for that
[13:14] <jrib> cg: hmm?
[13:14] <rohdef> grawity, thanks :) I'll try
[13:14] <eross> ok I've read all the problems for karmic in the forums, anyone loving the new install? I'm still on 9.04
[13:14] <blankhead> dr_willis thank you
[13:15] <dj_> jrib:its vga1 but why in this example he does dvi-1 and dvi-0
[13:15] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, thanks I'll look into it if the first one doesn't work
[13:15] <penthief> OK, this 9.10 freezing showstopper bug: If I ctrl-fX to a terminal before the network-manager starts, and killall compiz.real then unlock the default keyring, then open a terminal and run compiz in the background, everything seems to work perfectly.
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> eross: been fine since Alpha2 here
[13:15] <jrib> dj_: because that's the name of his displays
[13:15] <sysrpl> good god my ubuntu installl has been a nightmare
[13:15] <boomer84> hey guys, my "windows" key doesnt seem to want to assign as a shortcut. Anyone got any ideas why this is? Just installed 9.10(ofc)
[13:15] <phixxor> krishna: could you check something for me? "less /etc/apt/sources.lst" and see if they say "jaunty"
[13:15] <iceroot> !bug | penthief
[13:15] <dj_> jrib: my displaed listed only vga1
[13:15] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:15] <jrib> dj_: because you have one display, sure
[13:15] <Tiders> boomer84, Most people refer to it as the "super" key just for future reference
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> boomer84:  because the windows key is a 'special' key. (aka super key) much like alt and ctrl.
[13:16] <rohdef> grawity, thanks, it works :)
[13:16] <boomer84> ahh ok, super key. Cheers.
[13:16] <cba123> geekk1d, You have to click the desktop or something first, that works when I click the desktop and scroll anyways.  Don't much like that feature myself though.
[13:16] <penthief> I thought it was called the 'inferior' key.
[13:16] <krishna> phixxor, hey. that command told "no such file or directory"
[13:16] <sysrpl> what is the best irc channel to complain about koala install issues?
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> compiz makes a lot of use of the super-key for its special features
[13:16] <smacfarl> iceroot: grub channel seems to be empty. How do I debug what is happening in grub2 console?
[13:16] <ct529> hi everybody! my firefox 3.0.14 and 3.5.3 have stopped automatically loading the live bookmarks when they start up .... is that normal????
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  #/dev/null ? :)
[13:16] <sysrpl> because i grade the instal as a BIG FAT "F"
[13:16] <geekk1d> cba123, dont know mate that dose not work !
[13:16] <dj_> jrib: so i dont need to add this line xrandr --addmode DVI-0 "1680x1050_60.00" i mean vga-0
[13:16] <geekk1d> anybody else can help out!
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  file bug reports is the best thing to do.
[13:16] <joaopinto> !ot | sysrpl
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> ct529: remove the plugin then re-add it
[13:16] <jrib> sysrpl: it would be better to document your issues as bugs on bugs.ubuntu.com if a bug doesn't exist yet
[13:16] <phixxor> krishna: sorry! it should be "less /etc/apt/sources.list"
[13:16] <St0n3-C0l> the concept of xorg.conf has been ended in 9.10 release or what?
[13:16] <UbuntuLove> !inxi
[13:17] <jrib> dj_: adding thaat line to the right file would work, yes
[13:17] <phixxor> krishna: this is the file that tells apt-get what upgrades to download
 is that a known issue?
[13:17] <boomer84> Dr_Willis, would I be able to assign it to launch the main menu still?
[13:17] <dj_> jrib: to my file
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> because I don't find any xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> St0n3-C0l:  its been getting phased out since 9.04  :)  i still have one in 9.10
[13:17] <jrib> dj_: to your proper file sure...
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> ct529: no idea, not something i use
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> Oh
[13:17] <Tiders> St0n3-C0l, Are you using a Nvidia Driver?
[13:17] <St0n3-C0l> Nope :) Intel
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> boomer84:  no idea. I just use GNOME-DO and use that as a fast-launcher.. its better then the main-menu on windowskey any day
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> !info gnome-do
[13:17] <wsch> so since ubuntu uses grub2, i cannot get it booting anymore, im looking for a solution for 4 days, it would be nice if someone can actually try to help me
 .... but there is no plugin!
[13:17] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi Rev 160 [or actually all.] Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:18] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Really they are getting rid of xorg.conf?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> ct529: i thought it sounded like an addon
[13:18] <cba123> geekk1d, You clicked the desktop and tried scrolling and nothing happened?  Does the cube work if you do ctrl+alt+click and drag?
[13:18] <phixxor> Tiders: yeah I think they are
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its been getting smaller and smaler each release of X. many of my machines dont have one at all.
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> Hi everybody...
[13:18] <boomer84> Dr_Willis: cheers, will have a look at that as well.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  X auto-configures for the most part
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> sorry, I have a big problem with Ubuntu Jaunty installation
[13:18] <LucaFerrixman> can someone help me please?
[13:18] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, Oh sounds good.. I still have one since I used nvidia-xconfig to get my dual display going
[13:18] <cwillu> !ask | LucaFerrixman
[13:19] <phixxor> LucaFerrixman: could you describe yoru problem for everyone?
[13:19] <cg> jrib: bc doesn't work with strings. it only takes care of numbers
[13:19] <jrib> cg: what do you mean by that?
[13:19] <Balug> Im having a problem with Wubi.Im running windows 7, and i wanna use Wubi next to that. When Wubi wants me to reboot. i got no errors. but when i get into my bootloader and i select ubuntu i get: "Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr" and stops working. Does someone know how i can solve this?
[13:19] <krishna> phixxor, http://paste.ubuntu.com/305895/ here go
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  yep. Keep a copy of your nvidisa's xorg. configs handy for that :)
[13:19] <geekk1d> cba123, the cube works
[13:19] <bala> after upgrading to karmic on my dell 1525, i am unable to suspend/resume. anyone knows how to fix this?
[13:19] <dj_> jrib: its working now
[13:20] <jrib> dj_: great
[13:20] <phixxor> krishna: yeah they say karmic
[13:20] <Aeriel> Hi all! Anybody here is having troubleshoot with .avi reproduction after upgrading to karmic??
[13:20] <artcore> hi
[13:20] <artcore> @al
[13:20] <geekk1d> cba123, is just that it dose not rotate on scroll.
[13:20] <dj_> jrib:i think i will apply to oxford
[13:20] <LucaFerrixman> During set-up, the installer sees my HD as a single raid disk, even if I disabled it from BIOS. If I start the installer with the nomdraid option, the installer doesn't see my disks anymore
[13:20] <jrib> dj_: :)
[13:20] <phixxor> krishna: which means it thinks it's upgrading already
[13:20] <Pilif12p> hi, im trying to run cron on /usr/bin/pisg but it wont work
[13:20] <artcore> anybd have problems with ACPI in karmic?
[13:20] <cba123> geekk1d, Does the scrolling work when you click on the desktop?
[13:20] <mimis> hi, how can i set a static ip?
[13:20] <cwillu> LucaFerrixman, was it previously set up as a raid?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> mimis: you can set it in network manager
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !satic
[13:20] <dj_> jrib: do i need to make changes all time i log in or this one will be saved on xorg everytime i log in
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> !static
[13:21] <geekk1d> cba123, no unless i hold the scroll buton down
[13:21] <pechenie> hey! radeon R500 users!)) i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:21] <artcore> mimis ifconfig xx.xx.xx.xx. netmask xx.xx.xx.xx
[13:21] <phixxor> krishna: try opening the file in nano and changing every instance of "karmic" back to "jaunty"
[13:21] <jrib> dj_: if you followed the directions there on making it permanent, then you shouldn't have to do it every time you login
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> mimis: or you can use /etc/network/interfaces file and tis guide: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[13:21] <Aeriel> Hi all! Anybody here is having troubleshoot with .avi reproduction after upgrading to karmic??
[13:21] <wsch> so since ubuntu uses grub2, i cannot get it booting anymore, im looking for a solution for 4 days, it would be nice if someone can actually try to help me (like ive helped others)
[13:21] <phixxor> krishna: then run sudo apt-get update
[13:21] <wsch> this is getting extremely frustrating :(
[13:21] <Tiders> Dr_Willis, One thing I dont understand abotu Linux... Ubuntu supports so much hardware right off the bat and thats why so many people like it... Why dont OSs like Debian and CentOS try and support more as well?  Wouldnt that substantially increase their users?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> wsch: you can install grub if you prefer
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:  its all about the kernels supporting 'hardware' and then the various sub sustems doing things to actually make the  hardware useable.
[13:22] <phixxor> Tiders: one problem is many drivers aren't free software
[13:22] <LucaFerrixman> it was once set up as raid, but ever since I formatted it, and I was using Jaunty 'till today, no issues with it. If I start with nomdraid option in Karmic live session, GParted sees everything correctly
[13:22] <e204543> hi
[13:22] <Aquilai> Hi, how can I set shortcuts? I have compiz running but both compiz->commands and the "System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts" don't seem to let me set my shortcut for "gnome-terminal"
[13:22] <jrib> wsch: it's not that people don't want to help you, it's that they don't know how :)
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Tiders:   with identical kernel/modules the same hardware is supported by each disrto in theory
[13:22] <Paraj> Ubuntu 9.10 (surprise surprise). StartUp-Manager doesn't actually set GRUB2 settings and running 'sudo update-grub' after modifying /etc/default/grub doesn't work either (saves to menu.lst not grub.cfg), how do I save my configuration Grub2?
[13:22] <Aquilai> Well they let me set it but pressing the shortcut won't work.
[13:22] <artcore> anyone have karmic works fine on Acer laptops?
[13:22] <jrib> wsch: why not just go back to the older grub?
[13:22] <cwillu> artcore, acer makes a lot of laptops
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> artcore:  acer makes a large varity of laptops. :)
[13:22] <wsch> ActionParsnip: ok how? i never had to do this before since all the other ubuntu's didnt have the crappy grub2 builtin
[13:22] <cwillu> artcore, works fine on mine, for what that's worth :p
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> the wife took my Netbook AAO.
[13:22] <Tiders> phixxor, True and I really love free software TO A POINT though... In my opinion proprietary is totally fine if its used for the companies own hardware.
[13:22] <wsch> jrib: even the people at #grub dunno how to help me
[13:22] <e204543> i'm new her
[13:23] <e204543> her
[13:23] <artcore> dr_willis acer 6930g
[13:23] <dj_> jrib: http://www.pastebin.ca/1650415  this is my xorg now
[13:23] <e204543> here
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: just instal it like you normally would
[13:23] <artcore> :)
[13:23] <phixxor> Tiders: I agree :)
[13:23] <joaopinto> !language | wsch
[13:23] <krishna> phixxor,  oh! ok,.
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:23] <artcore> cwillu which model u own?
[13:23] <wsch> ActionParsnip: ok then i better get any ubuntu before 9.10 and install that one from scratcvh, thats how i do it normally
[13:23] <Tiders> phixxor, Meh all those other distributions are just stubborn xD
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> wsch: install grub from the repos then run the usual commands to install grub to the mbr
[13:23] <jrib> dj_: ubottu's page gave you other methods to "save" your resolution
[13:23] <protocol1> there a way I can get UNR 9.10 to do a 1024 X 768 resolution?
[13:23] <St0n3-C0l> Youtube will identify on LiveCD, how intel is working.
[13:24] <phixxor> Tiders: it might also have something to do with Canonical having lots of money to support Ubuntu with :P idk
[13:24] <dj_> jrib: Setting xrandr commands in kdm/gdm startup scripts
[13:24] <dj_> Both KDM and GDM have startup scripts that are executed when X is initiated. For GDM, these are in /etc/gdm/, while for KDM this is done at /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup. In either case, you can paste in an xrandr command line string into one of these scripts.
[13:24] <dj_> This process requires root access and mucking around in system config files, but will take effect earlier in the startup process than using .xprofile, and will apply to all users including the login screen.
[13:24] <wsch> joaopinto: erm, what did i say wrong mister policeman?
[13:24] <FloodBot2> dj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <St0n3-C0l> protocol1: It should, tried out Display settings? Or Screen Size?
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> protocol1: install and configure video drivers
[13:24] <wsch> ActionParsnip: the problem is i only want it on a partition?
[13:24] <wsch> ActionParsnip: sorry i should have been more clear about that
[13:24] <cba123> geekk1d, It might be hard to get that to work to be honest, since most programs use scrolling, you'd probably have to disable scrolling globally.
[13:24] <jrib> !grub > wsch
[13:24] <smacfarl> when in grub2 console ls is unrecognized command. How does grub2 find a cfg file?
[13:25] <jrib> wsch: you should be able to just use something like super grub disk, no?
[13:25] <joaopinto> wsch, calling "crappy" to someone elses work is not friendly
[13:25] <Bodsda> smacfarl: grub has a 'find' command
[13:25] <ct529> anyone using live bookmarks on ubuntu?
[13:25] <protocol1> ActionParsnip, I did install nvidia drivers 185 but I only see 640 X 480
[13:25] <web5|org|ua> where is conf for monitor ?
[13:25] <geekk1d> wow is this somthing new in Ubuntu 9.10
[13:25] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:25] <phixxor> smacfarl: I think the command may be "find"
[13:25] <wsch> joaopinto: hahahahahahhahahaahahhaahahahah
[13:25] <Paraj> Shouldn't be this difficult to save a GRUB2 config....
[13:25] <geekk1d> cba123, I had this on 9.04 no problem.
[13:25] <Aquilai> Hi, how can I set shortcuts? I have compiz running but both compiz->commands and the "System->Preferences->Keyboard shortcuts" don't seem to let me use my shortcut for "gnome-terminal".
[13:25] <Tiders> phixxor, True... I read that the owner of Conical is loaded and thats why they are able to send away free CDs right? xD
[13:25] <boomer84> Bala, suspend and resume is a real hit and miss thing
[13:25] <LucaFerrixman> noone can help me about it? how can I solve this raid problem?
[13:25] <kevdog> When is the droid supposed to be released?
[13:26] <phixxor> Tiders: something like that :P
[13:26] <artcore> i have a problem with acpi - when i'm switch acpi off on boot when wireless and LAN is works, if acpi still enabled(by default) i have no any network
[13:26] <mimis> ActionParsnip: if i write sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces it appears:  auto lo
[13:26] <mimis> iface lo inet loopback
[13:26] <Paraj> If I want to change basic Grub2 option I edit /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub' right? What happens when that doesn't work?
[13:26] <dj_> jrib: i will apply to area 51
[13:26] <phixxor> artcore: soundsl ike you need to configure your boot so it uses noapic every time
[13:26] <wsch> jrib: dunno about superdisk didnt try
[13:26] <dany__> anyone alse getting errors when downloadinf from package manager to 9.10?
[13:27] <bala> boomer84: is there anything i can do to figure out exactly what is wrong?
[13:27] <moDumass> hey all, does anyone know of a white noise or rain sound generator in lunix? for people that have tinnitus?
[13:27] <artcore> phixxor i have a laptop and i need in acpi :)
[13:27] <wsch> jrib: but then i still need to get grub installed, i cant allways boot from a cd lol
[13:27] <Bodsda> Paraj: I believe it is /boot/grub/grub.cfg although I am not sure as I still use the old grub. But a change to the menu does not require you to run the update command
[13:27] <jrib> wsch: that was just my suggestion to get back to grub 1 easily
[13:27] <phixxor> artcore: oh, in that case, idk. Good luck@
[13:27] <Paraj> Bodsa: Can't modify it directly anymore apparently
[13:27] <jrib> wsch: you would use it to install grub1
[13:27] <zysoft> Hi all, did anyone found a iwlagn fix for 2.6.31-14 kernel about the MAC is in deep sleep ?  downgrade to 2.6.31-12 works, but it might be possible to run it on the latest kernel
[13:27] <wsch> jrib: oh, i can also boot a liveCD and if its needed i can chroot into my system aswell
[13:27] <kankan_> Bodsda:do you use karmic or what?
[13:27] <artcore> zysoft i have a same problem
[13:28] <Bodsda> Paraj: well that sucks :)
[13:28] <Bodsda> kankan_: no, Im on jaunty. I will upgrade 1 month after initial release
[13:28] <artcore> strange that ubuntu hase released distro wuth buggy kernel
[13:28] <Paraj> Bodsa: No kidding, I use Linux to not be treated like a child perhaps I should just go back to Debian...
[13:28] <Bodsda> artcore: the kernel is not buggy afaik. And if it was there is nothing stopping you from reverting to an older kernel
[13:28] <zysoft> artcore did you find something? I saw a fix to iwlagn source, but still dunno how to rebuild it
[13:29] <phixxor> krishna: sorry, but I have to go. Good luck with everything!
[13:29] <Bodsda> Paraj: they will have the same downfalls. May I suggest Arch, Slackware, Gentoo or a custom LFS
[13:29] <randomtime> Hey, I've just upgraded from Windows XP to 9.10 :) - Just a copule of annoying details, everything else is very smooth. My middle mouse scroll wheel works but if I press it I can't get it to scroll up or down automatically with the mouse
[13:29] <artcore> zysoft only that i have done that on boot switch acpi off
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> you dont modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly for a REASON.. it get overwritten when you run update-grub so you changes get lost
[13:29] <zysoft> artcore how did you do that?
[13:29] <Paraj> Bodsa: I use Ubuntu because I couldn't be bothered to spend my time configuring Debian, so if it's not Ubuntu then it's going to be Debian :P
[13:29] <zysoft> I don't know the kernel flags well
[13:30] <Paraj> Still, I just want to save my damn Grub configuration using the methods outlined in the wiki, but it doesn't work
[13:30] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: so what is the equivilant of /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[13:30] <Younder> now i claims pygtk isn't istalled. But wings IDE which uses it runs
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> if you want to alter the grub.cfg properly edit the proper  grub config files so they work with the update-grub system
[13:30] <Younder> sigh
[13:30] <artcore> zysoft: on boot menu press E and add after kernel options acpi=off
[13:30] <Bodsda> Paraj: revert to Grub1
[13:30] <wsch> jrib: i dunno how to install grub1
[13:30] <wsch> jrib: and i cannot find it in your links
[13:30] <wsch> i dont even know if the links are about grub1 or grub2
[13:30] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: I did that, update-grub doesn't update the grub.cfg file and the GUI StartUp-Manager does nothing either
[13:30] <Dr_Willis>  Bodsda  that Is the equilivent. but you dont edit it directly. If you want to add an entry to it. you make one in /etc/grub.d/##_whatever
[13:30] <kankan_> i am having a major problem.happening all the time.whenever i switch on my pc and right after selection ubuntu from GRUB menu the screen gets blanc
[13:30] <wsch> this is all extremely confusing
[13:30] <artcore> zysoft: fedora 11 works fine on my laptop
[13:30] <zysoft> artcore, true, thanks
[13:30] <bala> wsch: apt-get install grub
[13:30] <Younder> the system installer is called grub not grub1
[13:31] <zysoft> artcore, but I love ubuntu :)
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  gui startup-manager is obsolete now . and you did rerun update-grub after making the file?
[13:31] <bala> wsch: that should get you the old grub
[13:31] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: I'll stick to Grub1 thanks. Works fine for me
[13:31] <artcore> ubuntu as ussualy - still buggy
[13:31] <protocol1> I have an nvidia 6200 series card...which would work better driver version 173 185 or 96?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  ive added my own entries to the grub2 menus this way
[13:31] <wsch> bala: thats it, it configures on its own?
[13:31] <protocol1> I am currently using 185
[13:31] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: If you read what I said, I said I ran 'sudo update-grub' after editing the file
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  i will stick with grub2 now that i got it booting ISO files..
[13:31] <Bodsda> artcore: you are free to use something else if you dont like it. There will always be bugs straight after a release
[13:31] <artcore> zysoft: i think you love nice interface :)
[13:31] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: It updated menu.lst not grub.cfg
[13:31] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: touche
[13:31] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  you made the file EXECUTABLE ? :) like the docs say?
[13:31] <web5|org|ua> where is xorg.conf in 9.10 ?
[13:31] <Younder> My mode is to fix it
[13:31] <wsch> bala: ok and theres no problem to do this from chroot?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  if you have a menu.lst - then somthing is odd. and you got parts of grub1 there.
[13:32] <morydd> my wireless connection worked last night after upgrading to 9.10 today when I run "ifup eth1" I get "wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start"
[13:32] <bala> wsch: it will remove your grub-pc package and install the old one
[13:32] <JoshuaL> how to restart sound services?
[13:32] <zysoft> artcore really? So what's the difference between gnome on fedora and ubuntu? theme? ha
[13:32] <Bodsda> web5|org|ua: It does not exist by default, as in 9.04. You can create one if you like
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  i got no menu.lst at all on any of my 3 machines.
[13:32] <wsch> bala: perfect, thats what i ewant, and can i do it from a chroot env ?
[13:32] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Did a fresh install so I don't understand why update-grub is making it there
[13:32] <bala> wsch: no, just make sure that your /dev and /proc are mounted at the right places
[13:32] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:32] <artcore> zysoft: ubuntu a little bit nicer than fedora
[13:32] <wsch> bala: the only way to get into my installed system is chrooting in from a liveCD
[13:32] <LucaFerrixman> How can I install Ubuntu Karmic Koala on a system with no RAID controller configured, but with Ubuntu pretending I have one, and if I start the installer with the "NODMRAID" option, the installer doesn't see my two hard disks anymore?
[13:32] <protocol1> I have an nvidia 6200 series card...which would work better driver version 173 185 or 96?
[13:32] <artcore> opensolaris is nice too
[13:32] <web5|org|ua> Bodsda: ok, but where is now stored info for display and xserver ?
[13:33] <bala> wsch: yup. i screwed up my grub2 install yesterday and fixed it with 8.04
[13:33] <Bodsda> artcore: this is not the place to discuss distro's please take it elsewhere
[13:33] <wsch> bala: could you tell me how please? just so im sure
[13:33] <bala> wsch: live cd, that is.
[13:33] <Bodsda> web5|org|ua: I am not sure. But the best way to influence it is to create an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[13:33] <wsch> bala: the /proc and /dev part especially
[13:33] <artcore> bodsda: sorry but this kernel bug affects many laptops
[13:33] <wsch> the rest shouldnt be a problem
[13:33] <bala> wsch: just a sec,
[13:33] <zysoft> artcore I tried arch, fedora, plain debian, open suse, open solaris and some others. I found that ubuntu looks good for my development purposes. It has a lot of thing done that you usually do by hand. And it's fast
[13:33] <artcore> i'm not alone with tis kind of problem
[13:33] <wsch> bala: sure
[13:34] <Younder> I disagree. This IS the place to discuss the distro
[13:34] <Bodsda> artcore: this is also not the place to discuss kernel issues. This is for ubuntu support. Not Linux programming
[13:34] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Even when I delete menu.lst 'update-grub' keeps wanting to make a new one instead of grub.cfg >.<
[13:34] <artcore> zysoft: u r right
[13:34] <Younder> or errors in it at any rate
[13:34] <artcore> ubuntu support?
[13:34] <artcore> here?
[13:34] <kankan_> zysoft:i am having a major problem.happening all the time.whenever i switch on my pc and right after selection ubuntu from GRUB menu the screen gets blanc
[13:34] <psinetic> i'm on ubuntu 9.10 trying to play songs on rhythmbox. it keeps telling me i need some windows codec?
[13:34] <Bodsda> Younder: 'this' distro can be 'discussed' in #ubuntu-offtopic. Support can be found here
[13:34] <bala> wsch: sudo mount --bind /proc /pathtoyourchroot_root/proc
[13:35] <pticochon> hi
[13:35] <LucaFerrixman> thank you very much... you've been of no help at all...
[13:35] <bala> wsch: likewise for /dev
[13:35] <Bodsda> psinetic: no, you need media codecs
[13:35] <pticochon> my sound doesn't work with 9.10 ubuntu
[13:35] <pticochon> just upgraded to that version
[13:35] <Younder> But a buggy distro is on topic
[13:35] <artcore> i'm still googling and reading forums about acpi problems but ubuntu guys are very busy to make a patch
[13:35] <pticochon> well, doesn't work "well"
[13:35] <psinetic> bodsda, ok from where?
[13:35] <Younder> not off-topic
[13:35] <wsch> bala: ok thanx
[13:35] <ikonia> Younder: do you have a support question ?
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  sounds like you some how got the grub-legacy older grub installed.
[13:35] <pticochon> anyone with this problem too?
[13:35] <protocol1> there a way I can force 1024 X 768 with my nvidia 185 driver?
[13:35] <Bodsda> psinetic: installing vlc is the easiest option. Or you can install the gstreamer packages
[13:35] <Bodsda> !codecs | psinetic
[13:35] <protocol1> Im using UNR 9.10
[13:35] <zysoft> kankan_: did you try do disable graphics boot?
[13:36] <krishna> phixxor, thanks.. thats helped me to fix.
[13:36] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Well when I boot it's Grub2 and I did a fresh install so it should be gone, dead, caput
[13:36] <Bodsda> protocol1: take a look at the 'xrandr' command
[13:36] <kankan_> zysoft:no.how to do that pls?
[13:36] <bala> wsch: you are welcome :)
[13:36] <kankan_> i am alll new..
[13:36] <zysoft> kankan_: hold on a sec...
[13:36] <protocol1> Bodsda, thx will thry that
[13:36] <Younder> ikonia, OK, why doesn't rhythmbox work in the 9.10 distro
[13:36] <pechenie> hey! radeon R500 users!)) i have activated KMS & DRI2 on my ATI X1600 and I finally got compiz working without any glitches, also there is finally native display resolution in TTY1-6, but there is a little bit performace loss. Is there further tips to "tune" opensource ATI radeon drivers?
[13:36] <anoob> hi, i have a realtek 8187 that just works next to the router...
[13:36] <bala> wsch: i had forgotten to select the device to which grub2 should have been installed
[13:36] <ikonia> Younder: could you define doesn't work please.
[13:36] <anoob> how can i solve it?
[13:36] <Younder> I have spendt all day fixing it
[13:36] <bala> wsch: i got it working the second time i installed it.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  somthing really quirky then.. actually I dont even recall seeing the phrase 'grub2' in the grub2 menus.. its version # is somthing like 1.93? let me check
[13:37] <atterdag> I got a problem on a newly upgrade karmic (from jaunty) that udev isn't creating the devices for my nForce-4 CK804 soundcard
[13:37] <jhghjhj> is Kamric going to be a LTS release?
[13:37] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:37] <kankan_> no.
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> jhghjhj:  no.
[13:37] <ikonia> jhghjhj: no
[13:37] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: No it's 1.93 but everyone refers to it as Grub2 because everyone is weird :P
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[13:37] <Bodsda> jgornick: I dont believe so
[13:37] <BlouBlou> !lts | jhghjhj
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  :) yep
[13:37] <zysoft> kankan_: try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76704
[13:37] <Younder> ikonia, OK, it aborts with a 'could not import gygtk'
[13:38] <Younder> pygtk
[13:38] <wsch> bala: ok i wrote it down to make sure i cant forget it :p
[13:38] <artcore> !acpi
[13:38] <zysoft> kankan_: try to edit boot flag on the fly first
[13:38] <wsch> bala: brb all reboot and try it, just to make sure ill alo use 8.10
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> I definatly dont have a menu.lst here.. odd this ONE machine always says 'entering rescue mode' befor it actually boots grub..
[13:38] <Younder> ikonia, odd, since it has pygtk
[13:38] <Bodsda> !apci
[13:38] <Phantomas> Hello, where is the desktop-switcher on unr karmic? :(
[13:38] <kankan_> zysoft:cud this be a GRUB problem?downgrade to grub1 will help?
[13:38] <artcore> :>
[13:38] <mentr> Hello, fresh installed 9.10 RC.. running good after install. But after updates wired network is lost... anyone?
[13:38] <bala> wsch: cool. what happened to your grub installation?
[13:38]  * artcore still waiting for fc12
[13:38] <ikonia> Younder: Hmmmm, checked the obvious, permissions on the libraries ?
[13:38] <ikonia> artcore: offtopic
[13:38] <Younder> ikonia, yes
[13:38] <wsch> bala: the ubuntu installer tried installing grub2, thats what happened
[13:38] <codeswing> could not install as cd rom is not working and boot from usb is not working
[13:38] <zysoft> kankan_ I don't know. But it seems like usplash can't run graphics well
[13:39] <artcore> i know
[13:39] <sharperguy> Still having serious sound problems with Karmic. Not working in firefox or totem and changing the volume doesn't actually have any effect on amarok.   Any suggestions?
[13:39] <ikonia> Younder: you're the first I've heard mention this, let me grab my karmic box
[13:39] <Bodsda> artcore: then ask a question. Provide useful information. Offtopic banter is not on topic here
[13:39] <wsch> bala: which one it is im not sure, but if installing grub legacy fixes it im more then happy
[13:39] <Thundercross> How's Grub2 different from Grub1?
[13:39] <bala> wsch: they don't install grub2 by default, do they? ( i was upgrading)
[13:39] <bala> wsch: good luck. :)
[13:39] <Mallarky> I just bought a router but ubuntu cannot connect to it.  Running 9.04 and an ADSL modem but connected directly to the modem using PPPOE. Cannot ping the router.  Works fine on Windows machine so its not the router.
[13:39] <kankan_> zysoft:can you tell me how to log in to ubuntu with command line or root console?
[13:39] <Bodsda> Thundercross: you would have to check the release notes for a full description
[13:39] <wsch> bala: it did over here anyway, from the CD
[13:39] <nperry> Thundercross: Grub2 has had a total recode, so more efficent!
[13:40] <Paraj> Thundercross: It's newer and more 'flexible' but it's also more painful for ordinary users to configure >.<
[13:40] <morydd> my wireless connection worked last night after upgrading to 9.10 today when I run "ifup eth1" I get "wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start"
[13:40] <wsch> bala: if you upgrade probably not, clean install however did (at least here)
[13:40] <Baughn> Since I installed 9.10, mplayer refuses to go into fullscreen mode. What's with that?
[13:40] <Thundercross> Okay. Well, the Grub I've been using for a while is perfectly fine for me.
[13:40] <bala> wsch: ok
[13:40] <zeroXten> is it me or is the nvidia support getting worse? my new karmic install doesn't even see my graphics card as needing proprietry drivers =(
[13:40] <zysoft> kankan_: do you mean single user mode, grub options or from graphical interface?
[13:40] <nperry> zeroXten: Its you.
[13:40] <artcore> morydd do you have a laptop or desktop?
[13:40] <ikonia> Younder: just opened fine for me, let me do a little more digging/testing
[13:40] <morydd> artcore: laptop
[13:40] <artcore> one more
[13:40] <artcore> lol
[13:40] <artcore> ok
[13:40] <zeroXten> nperry: is there anything special i need to  do then? it works quite happily in Hardy
[13:41] <sharperguy> Amarok2 is set to use pulseaudio and plays ok but the volume control applet has no effect. Totem and flash I have no idea how to set and don't play anything. Alsa doesn't seem to be able to produce sound either
[13:41] <artcore> moryd try switch acpi on boot
[13:41] <kankan_> zysoft:from recovery mode?
[13:41] <artcore> morydd: switch off
[13:41] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone... anyone?
[13:41] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3
[13:41] <pticochon> is pulseaudio a worthless piece of trash?
[13:41] <Bodsda> pticochon: no
[13:41] <zysoft>  kankan_: yes, this should be single user mode
[13:41] <pticochon> then why doesn't it work?
[13:41] <nperry> zeroXten: Shouldn't have to do anything. On my main computer havent had a clean install since hardy!
[13:41] <Baughn> pticochon: Not entirely
[13:42] <Bodsda> pticochon: define 'doesnt work'
[13:42] <Paraj> Speaking of pulseaudio, does karmic actually configure it correctly or am I going to have to pretty much do it myself again? :/
[13:42] <kankan_> zysoft:how to do that pls?
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: The latter.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> pticochon: depends on how you config it really
[13:42] <pticochon> whenever I have its process running, I get no sound
[13:42] <Cheery> can you explain where the boot menu has disappeared from the ubuntu bootup?
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: Well, unless you enjoy poor resampling
[13:42] <pticochon> when I kill it I get some sound
[13:42] <Pilif12p> How do i fix cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 11212: Resource temporarily unavailable
[13:42] <Cheery> (and how to get it back?)
[13:42] <pticochon> just in certain apps
[13:42] <Paraj> Baughn: Great, there goes my incentive to upgrade my main workstation to karmic :/
[13:42] <italianu11> hy
[13:42] <carresmd> I'm looking for some that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me
[13:42] <italianu11> i'm new in this irc
[13:42] <Baughn> Paraj: At least the configuration amounted only to editing two lines in /etc.
[13:43] <jibadeeha> how do i upgrade to kernel version 2.6.31-15
[13:43] <italianu11> and i want if someone can tell me how to become a hacker
[13:43] <artcore> jibadeeha
[13:43] <varuka> I can't scroll between workspaces since I upgraded.  Worked fine before.  Any ideas?
[13:43] <morydd> artcore: how do I do that?
[13:43] <zysoft>  kankan_: try typing "e" in grub menu. It will give you a set of lines, then choose the needed one and place e again. Then delete "splash" and place enter. then place "b" and you will boot with you changes
[13:43] <bazhang> italianu11, hack the kernel?
[13:43] <rob> italianu11: LOOOOOOOOL
[13:43] <italianu11> if anyone know please contact me
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> jibadeeha:  wait for it to be avail via the repos and upgrade. is the best way
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> jibadeeha: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.31-15-generic
[13:43] <rob> i must have come in the wrong time
[13:43] <rob> lol
[13:43] <Bodsda> !pm > Warre
[13:43] <jibadeeha> thanks ActionParsnip
[13:43] <artcore> morydd: on boot menu press E and add after kernel options acpi=off
[13:44] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:44] <m3F> need help with Kubuntu Karmic sound system
[13:44] <bratiz> yo yo my name's brat
[13:44] <carresmd> I'm looking for some that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me
[13:44] <bratiz> iz
[13:44] <iceroot> !ask | m3F
[13:44] <sysrpl> i wasted my entire evening with ubuntu installing last night
[13:44] <bazhang> bratiz, please stop that
[13:44] <leachim6> hey
[13:44] <nicklas_> can you trust ubuntu one?
[13:44] <m3F> ok
[13:44] <bratiz> stop ww
[13:44] <bratiz> what
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> jibadeeha: its not in the standard repos, you will need a PPA
[13:44] <leachim6> I need to compile alsa for my HP-Mini 110 ... how can I figure out with ALSA driver to use ?
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  as much as you can trust any online storage places i guess..
[13:44] <sysrpl> when i installed from from a cd (burned from a downloaded iso), it took forever to get past that little white ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen, then it went to a text mode screen for a minute, then the screen when black and everything stopped working
[13:44] <v0lksman> anyone know where I can get wsgi 2.5+ for jaunty?
[13:45] <m3F> Kubuntu Karmic does not play Surround
[13:45] <artcore> carresmd: u can try it by yourself - it's easy :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> !info wsgi
[13:45] <Bodsda> !u | artcore
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> v0lksman: whats wsgi?
[13:45] <toogreen> question here: just installed ubuntu karmic amd64 version... in the LiveCD my Nvidia card was seen and could be setup with a driver, now after install it can't!! I can only run 2D without desktop effects. Any ideas? I know i could run Envy.. but do I really have to?
[13:45] <artcore> sry
[13:45] <iceroot> m3F: sure it does
[13:45] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, oh, i mean can it crash or something, so the files disappear? do they have backup systems?
[13:45] <v0lksman> apache2 mod....libapache2-mod-wsgi
[13:45] <m3F> i have an Audigy SE 5.1 channels and playing music with Amarok my rear never plays
[13:45] <v0lksman> !info libapache2-mod-wsgi
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  i imagine they got some redundancy  - if they are planing on selling the service. :)
[13:45] <Shockrates> hi. how can i check the md5 hash of a tar?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  it pays to keep backups of course
[13:45] <RhysTM> anyone know how to get pptp working in 9.10
[13:46] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, yes
[13:46] <bratiz> you shockrates my man u just type : md5sum phile.tar
[13:46] <v0lksman> I tried the karmic package but it has unresolved deps
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: have you installed the nvidia driver?
[13:46] <artcore> !u | bratiz
[13:46] <m3F> iceroot: i mean, in my system of course
[13:46] <leachim6> hey
[13:46] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, im currently without backup :-P
[13:46] <Paraj> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 there is an update-grub2 command.... but there isn't
[13:46] <Shockrates> bratiz: do we have this tool by default ?
[13:46] <Shockrates> i use kubuntu
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  backup your backups also
[13:46] <sysrpl> is there anyway to speed up adding software through the software enter? i've been "installing" ubuntu restricted extras for over an hour and it's only at 15%
[13:46] <artcore> kewl
[13:46] <Younder> You need the native nvidea driver
[13:46] <leachim6> I need to compile alsa for my HP-Mini 110, how can I figure out which alsa driver to use?
[13:46] <toogreen> ActionParsnip, nope, when I go to Hardware drivers, its not there as an option (although it WAS in the LiveCD!!)
[13:46] <bratiz> i have it w/o installin somethin
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[13:46] <sysrpl> is there anyway to speed up adding software through the software center? i've been "installing" ubuntu restricted extras for over an hour and it's only at 15%
[13:47] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:47] <Phantomas> I installed unr karmic with the classic desktop and now I can't change to the netbook desktop
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> sysrpl:  the servers are a little slow right now. You could tr different mirrors.
[13:47] <damagednoob> newly upgraded gnome koala, the brightness on my gateway laptop keeps changing on it's own. If I hibernate it, when the machine comes back up, the brightness has changed.
[13:47] <damagednoob> is it related to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/415023
[13:47] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, ubuntu one is a monthly cost, it might be better and more economical too buy an external hdd or a big usb memory or somehing
[13:47] <Younder> it isn't distributed with ubuntu as the source code is propriatary
[13:47] <Bodsda> sysrpl: It is likely to be your internet connection.
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  first 2gb is free.. so do what you want. :)
[13:47] <anstei> i just upgraded to 9.10, now the encryption of my home dir is fucked up, "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" -- what can i do?
[13:47] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back?
[13:47] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, yeah
[13:47] <sysrpl> Bodsda: i can download from other internet sites just fine
[13:47] <carresmd> I'm looking for someone that's running karmic in a VM and willing to test something for me?
[13:47] <Shockrates> thanks bratiz
[13:47] <Younder> but the linux driver is excelllent
[13:47] <iceroot> anstei: watch your language
[13:47] <toogreen> ActionParsnip, just did what you said... Same thing tho, it says No proprietary drivers are in use blah blah
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> nicklas_:  ubuntu one has had uptime/stabiltiy issues during beta.. so it always pays to have flash drives :)
[13:47] <sysrpl> Bodsda: i downloaded a 1gb torrent in 20 minutes
[13:48] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  pm plz
[13:48] <Nalleman> hi, i would like to switch desktop enviroment from netbook remix to ordinary gnome. how can this be done?
[13:48] <m3F> iceroot: Phonon detects front and rear, and when i test those channels phonon plays sound through them
[13:48] <Bodsda> sysrpl: you could grab the package from packages.ubuntu.com  -- the Ubuntu mirrors are still being hit very hard at the moment. Slow speeds are expected
[13:48] <nicklas_> Dr_Willis, hm
[13:48] <artcore> one more --> mentr
[13:48] <Paraj> So... how do I execute update-grub2 ? Or am I being led down the garden path?
[13:48] <v0lksman> hrm...weird...tried the karmic package again and it worked...
[13:48] <m3F> iceroot: but when a play amarok i just hear fronts
[13:48] <iceroot> m3F: ask a full detailed question to the channel, icant help you
[13:48] <Younder> Paraj, Why do you need to update grub?
[13:49] <Paraj> Younder: I'm trying to change my configuration
[13:49] <artcore> this will affect wifi and/or eth
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  just type that command (with sudo) but on my systems at least the 2 commands update-grub and update-grub2 are the same script
[13:49] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: As I said, that doesn't work :/
[13:49] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, sorry, got dc for some reason... Should I just install Envy?
[13:49] <wsch> who was helping me agian? :( i forgot the nickname
[13:49] <pechenie> anyone!! who uses DRI2 & KMS on ATI radeon on karmic??
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> toogreen: ok then run: sudo apt-get install nvidia-185-modaliases nvidia-glx-185
[13:49] <Younder> Paraj, So.. you can do that from grub
[13:49] <Mallarky> Can i get some help installing a router. I cannot connect to it.  If i ping it it says network is unreachable.  Not router or cable.
[13:49] <artcore> is there some king laptop related channel?
[13:49] <diddy> Where can the alternate CD for 9.10 be downloaded?
[13:49] <thunderbird> hi
[13:49] <artcore> ubuntu+laptop
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  at least i think thy are the same.. double checking
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: i'd ask in #networking
[13:50] <diddy> I would like to encrypt the OS.
[13:50] <thunderbird> can anyone help me get an ATI Radeon 9600 working on Karmic?
[13:50] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: run  a 'dff' on both the files
[13:50] <Mallarky> ty
[13:50] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Well update-grub2 isn't even on my system :/
[13:50] <Bodsda> diff*
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> cat /usr/sbin/update-grub2
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: all i can suggest is make sure your adapter gets dhcp
[13:50] <m3F> iceroot: i do not know what else to say, i always have these surround problems in Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> ---> exec update-grub "$@"
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:50] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, ok, its installing, thanks
[13:50] <artcore> diddy: what you mean?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Mallarky: you may need to use a cable to initially set it up
[13:50] <Paraj> When I edit /etc/default/grub and run 'sudo update-grub' it decides to make a menu.lst instead of a grub.cfg
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  one just calls the other. heh
[13:50] <pechenie> thunderbird, whats wrong?
[13:50] <wsch> bala: was it you who was helping me a bit earlyer with my grbu problem? sorry if it was not you, i dont recall the nickname
[13:50] <diddy> I am looking for the Ubuntu 9.10 alternate CD that allows full OS encryption.
[13:51] <thunderbird> I can't get the desktop effects working, and I've tried radeon and fglrx
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  sounds like gurb2 for some reason is not installed..
[13:51] <diddy> I can not find the link.
[13:51] <m3F> iceroot: now in Ubuntu everything is ok if i configure the daemon.conf and set 4 channels
[13:51] <Paraj> So my configuration isn't actually saved, and I'm running Grub 1.93 because when I boot the version is as clear as day
[13:51] <leachim6> any ideas?
[13:51] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: how utterly pointless. My guess it is there for future expansion and compatibility
[13:51] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Paraj:  but some how it got installed to the mbr..
[13:51] <wsch> bala: in that case:
[13:51] <wsch> $ sudo mount /dev/sda6 /mnt mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4'
[13:51] <morydd> artcore: that seems to have done the trick
[13:51] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Bodsda:  or for ease of removeale later..
[13:51] <artcore> diddy: you can only encrypt partition or folder or file
[13:51] <thunderbird> pechenie, I can't get the desktop effects working, and I've tried radeon and fglrx
[13:51] <Bodsda> Dr_Willis: true
[13:51] <bala> wsch: ah
[13:51] <artcore> morydd: it is ok now?
[13:51] <Mallarky> ActionPartnership  I am using a cable
[13:51] <wsch> bala: can i do this from 9.10 aswell?
[13:52] <Paraj> Dr_Willis: Meh, I'll just try installing the whole thing again
[13:52] <morydd> artcore: network is functional
[13:52] <dalton2345> hi everyone, so how is karmic?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: i believe so.
[13:52] <artcore> morydd: i think we must wait for kernel update
[13:52] <m3F> iceroot: how can i tell phonon to send audio to both channels, front and rear? because it does not happen with the configuration i have
[13:52] <diddy> artcore, what? They changed it? I always encrypted everything.
[13:52] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  how do i get it back
[13:52] <wsch> bala: just sudo apt-gt install grub it wa right?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: you will need some live cd with ext4 support, 9.10 should be good for that.
[13:52] <thunderbird> dalton2345, bit unfriendly to hardware IMHO
[13:52] <artcore> diddy: you mean files?
[13:52] <bala> wsch: yup
[13:52] <wsch> bala: ok c u in a bit
[13:52]  * wsch reboots
[13:52] <bala> wsch:
[13:52] <anstei> i just upgraded to 9.10, now the encryption of my home dir is broken, "ERROR: Encrypted private directory is not setup properly" -- what can i do?
[13:52] <Shockrates> does anyone use sagemath?
[13:53] <dalton2345> thunderbird: ouch, thats not good
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> wsch: i recommend you make a subfolder in /mnt and mount to that
[13:53] <ugur> hi all. I have upgraded from jaunty to karmic and i want to compile virtualbox with new kernel but when i run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup it says : Your kernel source for kernel 2.6.31-14-generic cannot be found
[13:53] <bala> wsch: and you can force it to install on any hdd,
[13:53] <diddy> artcore, with the alternate CD you used to be able to encrypt the entire operating system. You couldn't boot without entering a decryption password.
[13:53] <bala> wsch: by using grub-install /dev/yourhdd
[13:53] <Bodsda> I know this is unsupported at the moment but is there any plans for Ubuntu to provide a downgrade option?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> wsch: you may need to use the -t option to specify the file system type
[13:53] <sysrpl> when i installed from from a cd (burned from a downloaded iso), it took forever to get past that little white ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen, then it went to a text mode screen for a minute, then the screen when black and everything stopped working
[13:53] <artcore> diddy: it is encrypted filesystem
[13:53] <diddy> artcore, correct.
[13:53] <bala> wsch: still there?
[13:53] <bazhang> sysrpl, tried in recovery mode? any bootoptions?
[13:54] <diddy> artcore, therefore I need the alternate CD.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded? Did you verify the CD once initially booted to?
[13:54] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:54] <artcore> diddy: try to search on mirrors
[13:54] <Bodsda> sysrpl: did you md5 check the cd? Try the check cd for defects option
[13:54] <sysrpl> yes
[13:54] <johni> hello everybody, have a problem with 9.10 (after upgrade from 9.04). I get "Association request to the driver failed" with wpa_supplicant ....
[13:54] <kankan_> how to login to desktop through root console?
[13:54] <sysrpl> and yes
[13:54] <kankan_> or command line?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: please tab complete my niock if you are addressing me so the text highlights
[13:54] <m3F> iceroot: myabe if i ask in #kubuntu
[13:54] <sysrpl> the problem is ubuntu is trying to use a video mode not supported by my monitors which are lcd
[13:54] <Bodsda> kankan_: if you mean how do I start the xserver it is   xstart  or maybe   startx   I can never remember which
[13:54] <RhysTM> does anyone know how to get network-manager-pptp working?
[13:54] <bazhang> Bodsda, not sure but there is backintime-gnome and backintime-kde
[13:55] <Bodsda> bazhang: sweet, I'll look into it, cheers buddy
[13:55] <DexterLB> hello
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sysrpl: then use boot options to either specify safe graphics mode, or set the resolution
[13:55] <artcore> rhystm: you mean pptp connection or only manager?
[13:55] <bazhang> Bodsda, described as 'rsync for the very lazy'
[13:55] <Athanasios> hello
[13:55] <RhysTM> anyway of getting a pptp vpn connection
[13:55] <Bodsda> bazhang: hah. Well I fit into that catagory :)
[13:55] <epinky> johni: wpa_supplicant, ok and ...?
[13:55] <Younder> johni, 9.10 distribution is buggy
[13:55] <RhysTM> i have network-manager-pptp installed
[13:56] <leachim6> is there a command I can run to find out what to put in my alsa conf?
[13:56] <artcore> rhystm i have tested it today - all is ok
[13:56] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic and created a new user. Now on when gnome starts X restarts if I haven't selected failsafe gnome.
[13:56] <bazhang> Younder, thats not helpful
[13:56] <kankan_> ActionParsnip:cud upls help me.i am in serious problem.
[13:56] <sysrpl> ActionParsnip: it took me forever to firgure that was the problem, because the screen was dumping to text, then the montior and drive tured offf
[13:56] <Athanasios> can i get some help with my graphics driver?
[13:56] <johni> Younder, it worked well with 9.04 kernel, is the kernel or wpa_supplication ?
[13:56] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[13:56] <RhysTM> i keep getting a failed connection and i know the details are all correct
[13:56] <toogreen_> ActionParsnip, installation will be finished soon, after that i go back into Hardware Drivers?
[13:56] <Paraj> bazhang: In comparison to what? :P
[13:56] <RhysTM> :( strange
[13:56] <D3RGPS31> i'm using the fglrx driver; 3D performance is perfect but 2D performance is aweful, video and window movement is extremely choppy; what can i do (ati r hd 4850, ubuntu 9.10 x86) xorg http://pastebin.com/m62b0aefc ; lspci http://pastebin.com/m25c231a3 :/
[13:57] <DexterLB> what should I do?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> toogreen_: no, just resrtart x sever
[13:57] <johni> epinky, well I cannot connect to my wireless network ... wpa_supplicant fails. After that errors I get other errors about the pre-shared key not being valid and many more
[13:57] <Younder> bazhang, sorry about that , but I am getting all sorts of repors. And my problems are not neccesairly the ones shared by others
[13:57] <toogreen_> ok thanks
[13:57] <pshr_> kate || kdevelop ?
[13:57] <leachim6> hey
[13:57] <artcore> RhysTM: try look on pptp server side - what's happen
[13:57] <pshr_> hi | leachim6
[13:57] <sysrpl> ActionParsnip: and even when i got another crt monitor, hen i couldn't switch out of 2048x1526
[13:58] <RhysTM> artcore: i dont know because i dont have access to the network without a pptp vpn connection
[13:58] <sulan> xdpyinfo | grep resolutions shows 305x305 dpi for my 42" LCD which is clearly wrong - suggestions of where to fix it?
[13:58] <artcore> RhysTM: i work with Mikrotik pptp server
[13:58] <epinky> johni: post the complete log, it could be hundred of things
[13:58] <sysrpl> and even when i got another crt monitor, then i couldn't switch out of 2048x1526
[13:58] <RhysTM> this is a ms native pptp server
[13:58] <johni> epinky, wpa_supplicant log ? syslog ? which one would be better ?
[13:58] <DexterLB> ok I'll ask this in another way: What is a failsafe gnome session different from a regular one except for not starting the customized startup apps?
[13:59] <epinky> johni: wpa_supplicant I guess
[13:59] <Athanasios> How do i become super-user when i open a .run file in terminal?
[13:59] <D3RGPS31> how do i enable 2d acceleration :/
[13:59] <Younder> Athanasios, suso su
[13:59] <sysrpl> i am only getting 2000 bytes per second downloads for my software packages
[13:59] <Younder> sudo
[13:59] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, iirc there is a launchpad bug with that
[13:59] <DexterLB> Athanasios: sudo -s or sudo su
[13:59] <bazhang> !slow | sysrpl
[14:00] <wsch> bala: istn apt-get install grub gonna install it to my MBR?
[14:00] <nperry> !ubuntu+1
[14:00] <bazhang> sysrpl, so is everyone
[14:00] <preecher> after upgrading to 9.10 i lost 2 progs and they arent listed in ubuntu software center or synaptic--they are wireshark root and zenmap root--does anyone know how i can get them back?
[14:00] <nperry> When is #ubuntu+1 going to unforwarded?
[14:00] <wsch> bala: also grub is not evailable, only grub-pc :(
[14:00] <sysrpl> i already have the cd iso, how do i chane the mirrors for apt-get?
[14:00] <Athanasios> the problem is i am opening the file into terminal, to run the executable, so i cant type in sudo before the command
[14:00] <DexterLB> can anybody help me please?
[14:00] <DexterLB> :S
[14:00] <Shockrates> Where is sagemath SAVED?
[14:00] <wsch> how can i get GRUB LEGACY PLEASE???????
[14:00] <kubuntuser> nperry: when there is a new release comming
[14:00] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: you have a link to it?
[14:01] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, let me take a look; hang on a second
[14:01] <nperry> kubuntuser: There already is!
[14:01] <sysrpl> how do i change the mirrors for apt-get? i am only getting 2000 bytes per second download on my package installs
[14:01] <Shockrates> what is the red line.?
[14:01] <bazhang> sysrpl, did you see my responses?
[14:02] <kubuntuser> nperry: no there isn't :-\. I do not believe it has a name, alpha, or anything
[14:02] <halezeynep> i'm using toshiba satellite u400 with ubuntu 9.10 and my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work
[14:02] <sysrpl> no
[14:02] <Younder> sysrpl, funny I am getting 600K bytes pr second
[14:02] <bazhang> Shockrates, where you last left on when switching between channels
[14:02] <nperry> kubuntuser: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=377 Lucid
[14:02] <mentr> misschien is het makkelijk om dat te grbeuiken
[14:02] <DexterLB> ah and one more thing: DNS lookup is VERY slow on karmic... anyone else have this problem?
[14:02] <mentr> Fresh Karmic install, after updates + reboot  > wired network gone...  how do i get it back
[14:02] <sysrpl> i am in the us, east coast
[14:02] <mentr> ifconfig shows eth0 but no IP
[14:02] <bazhang> sysrpl, karmic was just released. repos will be slow
[14:03] <Shockrates> bazhang: i would have never figured alone
[14:03] <Shockrates> .lol
[14:03] <DexterLB> repos for my mirror are superfast :P
[14:03] <sysrpl> but 2000 bytes per second slow?
[14:03] <epinky> mentr: and?
[14:03] <damagednoob> how do you turn off multiple workspaces in karmic koala ?
[14:03] <bazhang> sysrpl, mine are even slower
[14:03] <sysrpl> bazhang: but 2000 bytes per second slow?
[14:03] <kubuntuser> nperry: there is still no alpha. So what would be the point? The point of #ubuntu+1 is to get support for alpha/RC version
[14:04] <mentr> epinky: and what?
[14:04] <wsch> how do i get grub legacy please :(
[14:04] <lukas__> Hi all, I've just succeded in installing 9.10 on my desktop. It uses and old and borken CRT that fails to send the correct edid, but I managed to create a working modeline with cvt for 1024x768. is there any way I can get Ubuntu to use this mode as early as during the boot process and the login screen? in 800x600, it's all quite unusable to me
[14:04] <zob> anyone else having problems with flash on the new 9.10, 64bit (only when compiz is turned on - and embedded videos in particular)? Fx. this site: http://www.linuxhaxor.net/
[14:04] <epinky> mentr: never minds
[14:04] <sysrpl> bazhang: it took me four hows to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:04] <Baughn> mplayer refuses to go into fullscreen on 9.10. Help!
[14:04] <sysrpl> bazhang: it took me four hours to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:05] <sysrpl> it took me four hours to install a video driver so i could put away my crt ... ubuntu was refusing to use any resolution other than 2048x1526
[14:05] <revant> Zob: are you on Nvidia?
[14:05] <DexterLB> O M G
[14:05] <zob> revant, yes nvidia
[14:05] <Paraj> Is there a nifty GUI to modify Grub on 9.10?
[14:05] <Younder> the nvidea driver works for me
[14:05] <wsch> how do i get grub legacy please? if i boot 8.10 i dont have ext4 support and 9.10 dpes not seem to have grub-legacy
[14:05] <lukas__> I'm on an old i915, btw.
[14:05] <sysrpl> four hours was the download time
[14:06] <aguitel> wsch, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1247994
[14:06] <sysrpl> bazhang: four hours was the download time
[14:06] <Athanasios> My problem is that the video card drivers from the software center dont work, so i downloaded a driver from ati and got a .run file, when i then open it, "Run in Terminal" as an executable, it uncompresses, and then when installing i get an message saying, "you need to run this as a super-user" then it exits the terminal. Can someone help?
[14:06] <doos> zob: yes, but only with the flash controls (youtube etc)
[14:06] <revant> zob: then switch to metacity for a while when you watching youtube
[14:07] <epinky> Athanasios: use sudo
[14:07] <kahen> i'm puzzled. who the heck decided that traceroute6 should be included in karmic, but not traceroute?!
[14:07] <Younder> Athanasios, so run it as supersuser, use sudo su
[14:07] <wsch> aguitel: and how can i make sure grub installas to my partirion only?
[14:07] <Shockrates> Athanasios: ela re athanasie ubuntiane
[14:07] <Paraj> kahen: a genius :P
[14:07] <wsch> aguitel: i dont want it on my MBR
[14:07] <Athanasios> i cant use sudo
[14:07] <johnmn3> hi.  I'm at a loss.  I can't figure out what's wrong with apt
[14:07] <zob> doos, yes flash controls on youtube site, but can't play embedded videos unless i switch off compiz
[14:07] <Younder> Athanasios, ?
[14:07] <epinky> Athanasios: why?
[14:07] <Athanasios> i open the file from the file browser into the terminal
[14:08] <johnmn3> I'll do a "sudo aptitude install vlc" for instance
[14:08] <revant> zob: Its because of nvidia binary drivers
[14:08] <zob> revant, how is the easy way to switch to metacity? Is that the compiz-switch?
[14:08] <Paraj> apt-get
[14:08] <johnmn3> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc"
[14:08] <lukas__> anybody? Help with setting custom modes for intel/kms during boot?
[14:08] <aguitel> wsch, i think you need in mbr to normal boot
[14:08] <epinky> Athanasios: use command line interface
[14:08] <zob> revant, ok. so a nvidia driver update might help?
[14:08] <revant> yes with the fusion-icon its on the fly
[14:08] <pronoy> johnmn3: have you enabled the repositories ?
[14:08] <doos> zob: same here, ati video though
[14:09] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:09] <wsch> aguitel: i got another bootloader on my MBR, with that one i can start grub on a partirion, it worked like that before
[14:09] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid
[14:09] <revant> no.. Driver is updated at Nvidia's will :)
[14:09] <wsch> bala: still around?
[14:09] <sysrpl> most lcds can't support that
[14:09] <Athanasios> how do i open the file from the terminal so i can use sudo?
[14:09] <johnmn3> pronoy: I'm pretty sure.. from the sources gui tool
[14:09] <kahen> keyserver.ubuntu.com is insanely slow at the moment O_o
[14:09] <johnmn3> using apt-get: E: Couldn't find package vlc
[14:09] <pronoy> johnmn3: do sudo apt-get update
[14:09] <aguitel> wsch, what bootloader?
[14:09] <revant> zob: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: BCD (windows)
[14:10] <zob> doos, it seems we are more people with that problem, so I guess someone will be looking for a fix soon. In the meantime compiz-switch is helpful.
[14:10] <Younder> revant, nvidea drivers seem reliable to me
[14:10] <epinky> Athanasios: ALT+F2 , then enter xterm and execute
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: and no i cannot replace it
[14:10] <ulisse> 'lo guys
[14:10] <johnmn3> pronoy: did it a hundred times. but it's like the database it pulls down is wrong.. wondering if I should post up my sources.list somewhere
[14:10] <nperry> Athanasios: What type of file is it?
[14:10] <wsch> aguitel: i wont take the risk i dont trust grub
[14:10] <ulisse> anybody using blender here?
[14:10] <aguitel> wsch, i not working with this so
[14:10] <doos> zob: flash videos from other sites eg. dumpert.nl (dutch) doesn't seem to have that problem
[14:10] <Younder> they are not part of the ubuntu distribution though
[14:10] <Athanasios> .run
[14:10] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen
[14:10] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:10] <nperry> sudo ./file.run
[14:11] <wsch> aguitel: no problem, thanx for trying to help anyway
[14:11] <nperry> ^^ Athanasios
[14:11] <FLJohn> how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 without losing what I have on my drive?
[14:11] <revant> Nvidia + compiz = problems (my experience)
[14:11] <pechenie> ati + linux = problems (my expirience)
[14:11] <DexterLB> yup
[14:11] <Younder> FLJohn, shouldn't be  a problem
[14:11] <FLJohn> Yes pecheneie
[14:11] <zob> doos, yeah that's true. maybe only youtube embedded.
[14:11] <CrazyTux> Hey guys, ok this is driving me crazy
[14:11] <pronoy> johnmn3: no idea then...sorry,
[14:11] <FLJohn> yon
[14:12] <CrazyTux> I've got a Logitech wireless nano mouse
[14:12] <DexterLB> especially ati pre-HD
[14:12] <aguitel> wsch, i think windows bootloader NOT boot linux
[14:12] <CrazyTux> My single clicks are 95% of the time interpreted as a double click
[14:12] <CrazyTux> I've googled and found lots of results in regards to this, but no specific solution as of yuet
[14:12] <CrazyTux> yet*
[14:12] <sharperguy> What command needs to be running to display the volume control in the notification area?
[14:12] <CrazyTux> So I thought I'd stop in here, anyone else experience this same behavior / know of a fix?
[14:12] <Younder> CrazyTux, get a new mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: this is a $120.00 brand new mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: I do not think it is the mouse
[14:13] <CrazyTux> Younder: and it works perfectly on windows.
[14:13] <DexterLB> OMG I've been talking to myself, didn't know I hadn't identified with nickserv :D
[14:14] <DexterLB> can you see me now?
[14:14] <pronoy> DexterLB: :D
[14:14] <bala> wsch: hey
, it is not a bug, it's a feature?)
[14:14] <DexterLB> so
[14:14] <magicbu> quit
[14:14] <pronoy> whats happening to the bots ?
[14:14] <sysrpl> why would setup use 2048x1526 as the default resolution? that is very stupid. most lcds can't support that and just go black during setup after 15 minutes, once ubuntu reaches the setup configuration screen
[14:14] <wsch> bala: hi
[14:14] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[14:14] <CrazyTux> pechenie: how can I resolve this feature, I've tried adjusting the threshold to its MAXIMUM
[14:14] <pronoy> sysrpl: so don't
[14:14] <DexterLB> I upgraded to karmic and created a new user. Now on when gnome starts X restarts if I haven't selected failsafe gnome.
[14:14] <bala> wsch: how did it work out for you?
[14:14] <Younder> pechenie, that is unhelpful
[14:14] <wsch> bala: so grub is not in my repo
[14:14] <DexterLB> I also tried removing ALL stertup applications, including gnome settings daemon, still the same effect
[14:14] <johnmn3> peace
[14:14] <CrazyTux> pechenie: but it is still 95% of the time interpreted as a double click
[14:15] <wsch> bala: 9.10: grub not in repos
[14:15] <revant> zob: can you play youtube now?
, maybe hardware problem?
[14:15] <wsch> bala: 8.10 no ext4 support
[14:15] <bala> wsch: uhm,
[14:15] <Rumo> hi out there... Im trying to activate USB's at SUN virtualBox but without success...
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: again, it works fine on windows
[14:15] <DexterLB> Rumo: what guest OS?
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: on the SAME hardware
[14:15] <johni> epinky, here is my wpa_supplicant log : http://pastebin.com/m29dd868c
[14:15] <CrazyTux> pechenie: and this is a brand new like $120.00 mouse
 that's strange...
[14:15] <johni> epinky, not sure why the association fails :(
[14:15] <wsch> bala: also my repos are broken, i cannot do apt-get update (and yes this is a clean install.....)
[14:15] <bala> wsch: that sounds odd, because, i had already upgraded to 9.10 when this happened,
[14:15] <Rumo> DexterLB: home ubuntu guest winXP
[14:16] <sysrpl> pronoy: so don't what?
[14:16] <zob> revant, yes I can play youtube when I switch off compiz, so it's not about life and death, just slightly annoying.
[14:16] <wsch> bala: i have a clean isntall, not a upgrade
[14:16] <DexterLB> Rumo: and what USB device do you want to attach?
[14:16] <wsch> what in gods name happened to ubuntu :(
[14:16] <pronoy> sysrpl: don't use it as the default resolution... !
[14:16] <DexterLB> reboot brb
[14:16] <wsch> im really concerned i cannot ever use linux anymore other then in a virtual machien
[14:16] <pronoy> wsch: it got better :D
[14:16] <bala> wsch: that is true, my repos were already pointing to 9.10 when i did this, so the grub package must have come from there.
[14:16] <sysrpl> pronoy: i wasn't offered a choice
[14:16] <epinky> johni: pre-shared key may be incorrect
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: boot into recovery and try recoverx
[14:17] <epinky> johni: post wpa_supplicant.conf
[14:17] <bala> wsch: anyway, another option is to manually download the package from ubuntu archives site, and install it using dpkg
[14:17] <Rumo> DexterLB: i have 3 devices , usb-stick, camera and modem
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: or fix x
[14:17] <wsch> bala: good idea
[14:17] <sysrpl> pronoy: setup just runs for 15 minutes, dumps to a text scren, then everything goes black and all the drives stop spinning
[14:17] <johni> epinky, did not change the configuration from 9.04 and rechecked to make sure (with wpa_passphrase) that it still matches
[14:17] <sysrpl> pronoy: this was during setup
[14:17] <pronoy> sysrpl: ok so you haven't installed ubuntu then have you ?
[14:17] <wsch> where can i report broken crapmirrors plese?
[14:18] <wsch> its possible my intire country has this problem by default....
[14:18] <wsch> oh wait nobody cares anyway
[14:18] <cornwall> Hi, every time I resume my computer, Apport tells me I have a serious kernel error. It then tells me that it can't get any information about the problem. Is there a log I can see?
[14:18] <sysrpl> pronoy: i am on another pc at the moment
[14:18] <zmjjmz> is it advisable to run a partial upgrade if you're upgrading from karmic beta?
[14:18] <cornwall> (I'm on karmic)
[14:18] <bradpitt> wsch : contact the webmaster.
[14:18] <pronoy> sysrpl: so the setup has a resolution of whatever that is you mentioned ?
[14:18] <johni> any other ideas?
[14:19] <sysrpl> pronoy: why does the setup au such a crazy resoltution 15 minutes into setup?
[14:19] <bazhang> cornwall, apport has a bug filed against it in karmic
[14:19] <epinky> johni:  What are you using in your AP?
[14:19] <ksdfpr1> hi 2 all
[14:19] <epinky> johni
[14:19] <bala> wsch: i can see the grub package in karmic repository, though. : http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/grub
[14:19] <epinky> johni: WPA or WPA2?
[14:19] <pronoy> sysrpl: mine doesn't...so i really can't say, are you using a GPU ?
[14:19] <ksdfpr1> can anyone explain what to do to work my sata (here is the way http://wiki.debian.org/pata_marvell but I m only few minutes user!!!
[14:19] <johni> epinky, WPA2
[14:20] <cornwall> bazhang, thanks, I've been unsuccessful in finding a report...
[14:20] <wsch> bala: i dunno why i cannot see it then
[14:20] <bala> wsch: what exactly is the problem with your repo?
[14:20] <wsch> bala: oh wait sorry i do know
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy: setup switched to an unsupportedreolution of 2048x1526 after about 15 miutesaiting while watching the u logo
[14:20] <bazhang> cornwall, let me try to dig it up
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy: ubuntu logo
[14:20] <cornwall> bazhang, thank you very much
[14:20] <wsch> bala: Could not connect to be.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[14:20] <pronoy> sysrpl: are you using a GPU /
[14:20] <bala> wsch: ah
[14:20] <Paraj> lol, funny that the grub.d scripts are create a grub.cfg that Grub2 keeping bitching about because it's using deprecated options.... on a new release :P
[14:20] <wsch> bala: half of it downloads fine
[14:20] <Paraj> creating*(
[14:20] <Exile> hey guys I'm running 9.10 and does anyone know how I can get the 'Add/Remove programs' like in 9.04?
[14:20] <bala> wsch: try again. :)
[14:20] <apuokas> hi, anybody having problems with chaotic firefox fonts?
[14:20] <sysrpl> pronoy:  have an nvidiagrapcard is that is what you wanted to ask
[14:21] <apuokas> that can't be changed through settings?
[14:21] <wsch> bala: i guess when they loose half of all users in my country they will probably fix it
[14:21] <pronoy> sysrpl: yes, you might want to disable that and then try
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy:  nvidia graphics card
[14:21] <johni> epinky, my wpa supplicant has proto=WPA RSN
[14:21] <bala> wsch: this sounds like a temp problem with the net connection
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy: disable the video card?
[14:21] <henux> does Empathy support OTR or does it have OTR plugin?
[14:21] <bala> wsch: or maybe a lot of people are upgrading to karmic right now ;)
[14:21] <pronoy> sysrpl: are you on a laptop ? or a desktop ?
[14:21] <wsch> bala: nope yesterday same situation
[14:21] <BlouBlou> henux: no, it doesn't support
[14:21] <sysrpl> pronoy: desktop
[14:22] <johni> epinky, the only difference would be the driver compiled differently for this kernel. was reading online that there two options for wpa2 support
[14:22] <mave83> hi, I looking for some help (prefered in german). I have a ATI 4870 with 2 Monitors and installed the (i know, i know) closed FGLRX driver. I got my Gnome Dektop on 2 screens and can move windows from one to the other. My Problem is I want the right screen als "main" and the left as additional space (so that the gnome menu is shown on the right screen), but I can't find a way to do that ;(
[14:22] <bala> wsch: i see, you can change the mirror if you wan
[14:22] <bazhang> wsch, slow mirrors?
[14:22] <henux> BlouBlou: and no plugins?
[14:22] <Fenix1> anyone know anything about bind
[14:22] <DexterLB> I'm back
[14:22] <wsch> bazhang: since when is that slow? it does not respond
[14:22] <Paraj> wsch: You're having problems with grub too right? What version of grub are you running currently? Try 'grub-install -v'
[14:22] <bala> wsch: you could choose a mirror which responds fine from your country
[14:22] <kane77> for quite a while now I get Capabilities mismatch with server when trying to connect to Ubuntu One.. Is anyone having the same?
[14:22] <pronoy> sysrpl: try removing the graphics card, running the setup, then later plugging it in. The hardware drivers will be installed later
[14:22] <wsch> bala: yeah im gonna try
[14:22] <teyteydragon> guys my bluetooth, card reader and webcam didn't work at ubuntu 9.10, my lspi: http://pastebin.com/m56215b5a
[14:22] <bazhang> wsch, karmic +2 days release will be the cause
[14:22] <BlouBlou> henux: ubuntu's empathy is old version, it doesn't have anything
[14:22] <epinky> johni: could you post wpa_supplicant.conf?
[14:22] <Rumo> DexterLB: I restart my computer but still the same problem with usb
[14:22] <pronoy> sysrpl: but be careful
[14:22] <henux> BlouBlou: got it
[14:23] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: did you find it o:
[14:23] <wsch> bazhang: oh great :S i guess
[14:23] <henux> BlouBlou: thank you
[14:23] <kankan_> how to install grub legacy
[14:23] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, just a second, loading now
[14:23] <wsch> bazhang: i must honestly say im really disappointed in this release
[14:23] <sysrpl> pronoy: oh great, and when i remove the video card, how shall i know what is happening?