[05:34] <johndoe1> is this chan good place to start?
[05:34] <Ganymede> sinnLoser, i think he means here is not to ask for where to find a particular channel
[05:34] <johndoe1> i mean room..
[05:34] <gbear14275> hey guys I seem to be having a problem verifying that i've disabled password login to ssh.  if I rename my private key to id_rsa.bck it shouldn't work right?
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> johndoe1, /msg alis help list
[05:35] <DonkyKong9001> poo
[05:35] <DonkyKong9001> exit
[05:35] <Whisky`> crypt-0, Any thoughts?
[05:35] <gbear14275> it still seems to be allowing login
[05:36] <Someguy77> in startup applications, why doesn't the following command work " sh -c “sleep 5; gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=BGTERM1” "  ???
[05:36] <gbear14275> also... my login message is alot shorter... only displaying the last login time
[05:36] <gbear14275> not sure what happened
[05:36] <johndoe1> sorry i dont undrstand hatake
[05:36] <gbear14275> anyone able to help?
[05:37] <verbatim> gbear14275: not 100% sure, but I think if you ssh -vv to that machine, it will list the available authentication methods
[05:37] <hatake_kakashi> johndoe1, you need to type that in "/msg alis help list" (without quotes)
[05:37] <truongnv> hi all!
[05:37] <johndoe1> ok
[05:37] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, any update on my pasting?
[05:38] <ShazbotMcNasty> Okay, I need to get wireless working. I have a d-link dwa-125 wireless adapter. Wicd is installed, but can't find any wireless networks. iwconfig came back with http://pastebin.org/133878
[05:38] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, if you're currently using linux you're online no? all you need to do is to follow your wireless router's manual on how to authenticate to your ISP
[05:38] <gbear14275> Authentications that can continue: publickey
[05:38] <gbear14275> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
[05:39] <gbear14275> verbatim: am I reading that right that only key based login should work?
[05:39] <benkay86> Trying to access server install of Lucid over a serial console. Followed instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto and can see kernel output at startup, but no login prompt. Something about "cannot write bytes: Broken pipe"
[05:39] <ShazbotMcNasty> also, my router is set up to broadcast ssid
[05:39] <ShazbotMcNasty> so I don't know why it's not finding the network
[05:39] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, I could be less bothered about my Modem > Router > PC problem, I just want WiFi to work :(
[05:39] <verbatim> gbear14275: I believe so... mine lists "publickey,password"
[05:39] <navetz> hey guys I am trying to enable two finger scrolling on my touchpad, there are good instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireTimeline/Fixes?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=linkto:%22AspireTimeline/Fixes but I can't figure out where to put the file called 11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[05:39] <gbear14275> verbatim: I guess whats weird is I have renamed my privatekey on my local machine to id_rsa.bck  and its still working
[05:39] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, it won't work without the wireless router configured, simple as that.. or you should have bought yourself a modem/router with wireless
[05:39] <Rapsodius> any of you has package insserv installed? will it break my boot?
[05:39] <gbear14275> verbatim: is it cached possibly?
[05:40] <johndoe1> hatake i'm afraid i'm gonna nead sommore guidance i assumed to enter that text as a room or channel, but .. 1st time irc ever
[05:40] <verbatim> gbear14275: i don't really know -- could be cached in your ssh agent, maybe?
[05:40] <johndoe1> so i really didn't understand
[05:40] <KiiK> kjele: YES.
[05:40] <hatake_kakashi> johndoe1, type it into where you normally type into
[05:40] <gbear14275> verbatim: thats what I'm thinking... but I don't know
[05:40] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, But, how come it works at times? At times my WiFi works. It has worked TWICE and suddenly it stops working and refuses to work again
[05:40] <benkay86> navetz: Look for other files with that extension. Maybe /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/ ?
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, maybe some el cheapo radio shack branded router you got
[05:41] <verbatim> gbear14275: try "ssh-add -l" to list them, and "ssh-add -D" to remove those listed for the agent
[05:41] <johndoe1> type /msg alis help list"  to were please
[05:41] <johndoe1> oh!
[05:41] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, It's TP-Link
[05:41] <hatake_kakashi> johndoe1, into input box.. exactly where you type to chat :p
[05:41] <Whisky`> and it works flawlessly with Windows
[05:41] <gbear14275> verbatim: ok... I just also renamed my public key as well and that seems to work now... but should it work with my public key on my local machine
[05:42] <gbear14275> ?
[05:42] <Rapsodius> ?
[05:42] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, yeah everything works with windows, but if you're going to talk about windows, I suggest you to talk about it in ##windows
[05:42] <navetz> benkay86: I think its suppose to go here: /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty    There is another file with that extension in there and some documentation suggests it might go there, but non of my touchpad configs work when I create the file in there.
[05:42] <verbatim> gbear14275: as in logging in to that machine from itself?  yes, probably
[05:43] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, I suggest you should try and learn a little more before telling people they're router is bad. It's just lack of your knowledge :)
[05:43] <navetz> benkay86: it looks like it might be because i'm using kde.
[05:43] <gbear14275> verbatim: not exactly... on my local machine I have both id_rsa (private key) and id_rsa.pub (public key).  It didn't stop working until I renamed both key files... seems odd
[05:43] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, little more knowledge? hey I'm not the one here facing some weird issue thinking its linux when one has that lack of knowledge and thinks TP-Link is some well known brand
[05:44] <verbatim> gbear14275: hmm, not sure -- i'm not really an expert at this
[05:44] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, I'm here for help and you're not helping :)
[05:44] <benkay86> navetz: If you're using KDE from Lucid, have you tried configuring the touchpad via System Settings? (It's under "Keyboard and Mouse".)
[05:44] <gbear14275> hmm ok now it seems to be acting right...
[05:44] <johndoe1> hatake_katashi something is not working about it, what is supposed to be going on there, i get a little clear notice and another pop uper that i couldn't read
[05:44] <navetz> benkay86: yup, I upgraded to lucid for that purpose but it doesn't work :(
[05:44] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, no I offered help until you said TP-Link is some known brand, and I'm telling you it isn't but you're too thickheaded
[05:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> Okay, I need to get wireless working. I have a d-link dwa-125 wireless adapter. Wicd is installed, but can't find any wireless networks. iwconfig came back with http://pastebin.org/133878
[05:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> also, my router is set up to broadcast ssid
[05:45] <ShazbotMcNasty> so I don't know why it's not finding the network
[05:45] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, At least I'm not a retard like you. Thank you for your help. Good bye.
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, retarded? you are
[05:45] <gbear14275> any idea why my login message would go from telling me all about my package status to just a last login message?
[05:45] <benkay86> navetz: Are you sure whatever you're trying to do actually *can* work with your hardware?
[05:45] <Whisky`> benkay86, I've installed the synaptics touchpad configuration package, but I don't see it anywhere. Any idea how to launch it?
[05:45] <navetz> benkay86: yes a few people have claimed to have it working on very similar laptops. It also works in windows.
[05:46] <Rapsodius> will package 'insserv' break my boot?
[05:46] <bandicoot_> what's the difference between ubuntu and mint? What's more preferable?
[05:46] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, I said bye :)
[05:46] <benkay86> navetz: What exactly are you trying to customize?
[05:46] <navetz> benkay86: well i can't cconfirm it works in windows because I didnt' boot it, but there was a sticker on the touchpad showing off the feattures lol
[05:46] <ShazbotMcNasty> Also I have no sound
[05:46] <verbatim> anyone know what I need to do to get gnome-terminal to display the cwd from bash in the title bar?
[05:46] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, bye yourself
[05:46] <navetz> benkay86: two finger horizontal scrolling,
[05:46] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, retard
[05:46] <benkay86> Whisky: What package did you install it from? Use "dpkg -L package-name" to see what files were installed.
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, hah! look whos the one leaving parting messages like that
[05:47] <Whisky`> benkay86, I used KPckageKit to install gsynaptics
[05:47] <benkay86> Whisky: So, "dpkg -L gsynaptics"
[05:47] <Whisky`> hatake_kakashi, I refuse to lower my level to your's.
[05:48] <benkay86> navetz: Well, that works for me from the System Settings module. Do you get any particular error, or does it just not scroll?
[05:48] <Whisky`> benkay86, I got a long list of files installed
[05:48] <hatake_kakashi> Whisky`, pfft, keep talking to yourself, noob
[05:48] <benkay86> Whisky: Since what you want is probably an executable, try looking for files under /usr/bin
[05:48] <navetz> benkay86: just doesn't scroll :(
[05:48] <benkay86> Whisky: i.e. "dpkg -L gsynaptics | grep /usr/bin"
[05:49] <ShazbotMcNasty> I lost sound after the updates in ubuntu
[05:49] <[PapaSmurf]> UbuN2
[05:49] <Whisky`> benkay86, I tried launching it, it says GTK Cant open display
[05:49] <UbuN2> hiya [PapaSmurf]
[05:50] <benkay86> navetz: You got me. File a bug, I guess.
[05:50] <navetz> benkay86: damn, im gonna search through some forms to try and find a fix
[05:50] <phani> Hi.. I am new to ubuntu and i have hardy 8.04 ... So when I boot my computer I have the login screen and in background it shows ubuntu..  So, I wast to change the background name dfrom ubuntu to someother name..  Is this possible... if yes which file I need to edit... an ideas please...
[05:50] <benkay86> Whisky: Are you in X (i.e. a graphical environment)? Are you trying to launch the program as root or something?
[05:51] <Whisky`> benkay86, yup i'm in KDE. tried as root, didn't work. Tried as 'whisky', same thing
[05:51] <Rapsodius> any of you has package insserv installed? will it break my boot?
[05:52] <benkay86> Whisky: If you are running KDE from Lucid then, as I mentioned to navetz, you should probably be using System Settings instead of gsynaptics.
[05:53] <benkay86> Whisky: Secondly, as long as you are running gsynaptics as the same users you are logged in as, you shouldn't be getting that error.
[05:53] <Whisky`> benkay86, My problem is my scroll bar jumps here and there at times and windows get switched :(
[05:53] <benkay86> Whisky: What do you mean by that?
[05:54] <navetz> benkay86: I don't really know which settings my system is using :( I don't know where the config file is lol
[05:54] <benkay86> navetz: Config file for what?
[05:54] <Whisky`> benkay86, What I just said. It's extremely annoying. The scroll bar will go up for no reason and if i'm typing suddenly this window will go back and konsole will come to the front
[05:55] <navetz> benkay86: my touchpad, there has to be a file somewhere that has the settings saved :)
[05:55] <benkay86> Whisky: OK, sounds like you're probably bumping your touchpad when you type.
[05:56] <Whisky`> benkay86, But how can this be? I've been using my touchpad for over 2 years now and it has never been a problem :(
[05:56] <benkay86> navetz: I don't actually know how it works. If you're doing things through KDE, it's possible KDE is setting things up at login rather than using HAL. If that's the case, config files will be under ~/.kde instead of /etc
[05:56] <greezmunkey> benkay86: That sounds about right...stupid touchpads >:P
[05:57] <navetz> benkay86: ah okay, thanks ill check it out
[05:57] <benkay86> Whisky: Is there something you can do reproduce the problem? For instance, could you open several windows and then see if a touchpad gesture will switch between them?
[05:57] <brandon> hey anyone know why i get an access denied error when trying wow on wine if i try opengl?
[05:58] <nikola> help hpwto install via sound driver
[05:58] <Whisky`> benkay86, It's not switching right now but a gentle press with mmy palm is popping up menus
[06:00] <benkay86> Whisky: In that case, is it possible something else is causing the switching between windows?
[06:00] <greezmunkey> Whisky`: press where?
[06:00] <Whisky`> greezmunkey, touch pad
[06:00] <ShazbotMcNasty> how do I tell what chipset I'm running?
[06:01] <greezmunkey> Whisky`: well there you go, don't do that :)
[06:01] <[PapaSmurf]> hey how to build a colonel
[06:01] <[PapaSmurf]> hehe
[06:02] <Paddy_NI> Which chipset?
[06:02] <Whisky`> greezmunkey, but what about the accidental times? I did that on Windows and it was never a problem :/ sorry about the windows comparison but I'm coming from Windows
[06:02] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: which chipset?
[06:03] <navetz> benkay86: i found the rc file for the touchpad settings! time for testing lol
[06:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> Paddy_NI, that's what I want to know
[06:04] <nikola> isthereanyone who know to install sound driver on linux?
[06:04] <nikola> via 8235
[06:04] <nikola> ??
[06:04] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: laptop or desktop?
[06:04] <nikola> desktop
[06:04] <[PapaSmurf]> yes witch one?
[06:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> Paddy_NI, desktop
[06:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> home built
[06:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> I assume...
[06:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's a friend's computer
[06:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm trying to fix it
[06:05] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: what driver are you specifically looking for?
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> well I'm trying to get my wireless to work
[06:05] <nikola> driver for via8235
[06:05] <nikola> :)
[06:05] <schmichael> any tips for installing and dual booting ubuntu on a macbook pro? or does the installer/grub Just Work?
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> so I guess I'm looking for the dwa-125
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> I was actually looking for the chipset...
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't know what the chipset it
[06:05] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: is your wireless an internal pci card or a usb dongle?
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> is*
[06:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> usb
[06:07] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: open a terminal and type "lspci" without quotes, then press enter and pastebin the results then return the link to me.
[06:07] <Paddy_NI> !pastebin | ShazbotMcNasty
[06:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> I know what pastebin is :)
[06:07] <Guest67721> lol
[06:07] <Paddy_NI> :)
[06:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> also it is a bunch of nvidia stuff
[06:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> so I assume it's nvidia chipset
[06:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm just confused man
[06:07] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: I meant lsusb
[06:07] <Parabola> I've spent 6 hours trying to get 1280x768 resolution, and I'm out of ideas, anyone have a minute to help?
[06:07] <Paddy_NI> woops
[06:08] <Gnea> Okay, I've got a problem and haven't heard about it before so I don't know if anyone else has had it - basically, if I leave firefox 3.5 open (in 9.04) for more than, say, 30-40 minutes, when I try to watch a flash video (youtube, etc) the video portion play back okay, but the audio is distorted and just repeats over and over.  Using alsa, pulseaudio is turned off (audio used to not fully sync with pulseaudio on). What could be the problem/solution?
[06:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> Paddy_NI, http://pastebin.org/133935
[06:08] <Paddy_NI> ShazbotMcNasty: be right back have to go to the lavatory
[06:08] <greezmunkey> Whisky`: You are chasing a ghost, if you can figure out how to make the touchpad less sensative, great; otherwise I guess you'll have to live with it.
[06:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> Paddy_NI, so will i
[06:09] <scruffy> my balls are seriously saggy
[06:10] <Guest67721> greezmunkey no he just needs the correct info and help to solve his issue
[06:10] <scruffy> he jizzed on his mouse pad
[06:10] <Guest67721> lol
[06:11] <Guest67721> many things can cause his issue
[06:11] <phani> Hi.. I am new to ubuntu and i have hardy 8.04 ... So when I boot my computer I have the login screen and in background it shows ubuntu..  So, I wast to change the background name from ubuntu to someother name..  Is this possible... if yes which file I need to edit... any ideas please...
[06:11] <Guest67721> Whisky` is this a dual boot or a clean install?
[06:12] <LinuxUser3890> has anyone tried to rip a newer dvd recently
[06:12] <drc> portuguese
[06:12] <Guest67721> phani yes you can change the screen
[06:12] <Guest67721> google ubuntu bootscreen
[06:12] <phani> Guest67721: Thank you and I will check this.. now
[06:12] <Guest67721> LinuxUser3890 yes
[06:12] <bobthemilkman> I want to sync my system clock to something without using NTP.
[06:13] <bobthemilkman> My proxy doesn't allow for NTP.
[06:13] <Guest67721> LinuxUser3890 you try devede?
[06:13] <Moc> k... why in 10.04 the min/max/close is to the left instead to the right... and why does the default background look so much like macosx ?
[06:13] <brandon> when i try to run wine with sudo it says im not the owner of the .wine file
[06:13] <Kaz> phani: If you are looking for a custom splash screen I believe http://gnome-look.org/ may be a good placet o look
[06:13] <Guest67721> brandon huh?
[06:13] <bobthemilkman> I've been trying to find something that uses http synchronization, but google is useless as the terms "http time synchronization" returns a million results for NTP synchronization.
[06:14] <Guest67721> run wine as in how are you trying to run wine?
[06:14] <Kaz> Brandon: You should almost never run wine as sudo
[06:14] <LinuxUser3890> Guest67721: well no i usually back up the dvd as an iso with dd
[06:14] <Moc> so far, only good thing seem to be the terminal is finally black/grey by default
[06:14] <christpunk01> can anyone tell me/direct me to how I can add an update package to the repository? Ubuntu only has ardour 2.8.2 when we are on 2.8.7. I've compiled it and am running it now on 9.10
[06:14] <Guest67721> you should be installing under it brandon
[06:14] <Guest67721> LinuxUser3890 what probs u having?
[06:14] <Guest67721> errors?
[06:14] <LinuxUser3890> no
[06:14] <Guest67721> if so list them
[06:14] <brandon> Kaz: when i start wow i get an access denied error while its trying to write to my ntfs part... so i wanted to run as sudo to see if it worked
[06:14] <Guest67721> ok then what?
[06:15] <LinuxUser3890> just doesn't go past like 50~60 mb
[06:15] <Guest67721> oh
[06:15] <Guest67721> hmm
[06:15] <Guest67721> let me see what i can find out
[06:15] <Guest67721> 1sec
[06:15] <LinuxUser3890> its like its a multisession disk or something
[06:15] <Guest67721> are you booting off of an vm from bios as usb?
[06:16] <brandon> so how would i go about getting wine to work under sudo?
[06:16] <LinuxUser3890> me?
[06:16] <Guest67721> brandon u install it proper? sudo apt-get install wine?
[06:16] <brandon> yes
[06:16] <Guest67721> brandon you reboot your system?
[06:16] <Guest67721> LinuxUser3890 yes
[06:16] <skuzzel> anyone know how to get ubuntu to mount an SD card? (reader is part of the laptop)
[06:16] <Kaz> brandon: you may want to try doing a "sudo chmod -R 777 /path/to/WoW". Granted thats a pretty bad way of doing it so you may want to read http://catcode.com/teachmod/ first
[06:16] <LinuxUser3890> no
[06:17] <Guest67721> LinuxUser3890 what size is your hdd?
[06:17] <scruffy> hey where can i ask about programming on ubuntu, here or another room?
[06:17] <LinuxUser3890> 320
[06:17] <DareDevil0> What is the difference between export and set?
[06:18] <Guest67721> #programming
[06:18] <Guest82779> hi
[06:18] <skuzzel> anyone know how to get ubuntu to mount an SD card? (reader is part of the laptop)
[06:19] <verbatim> DareDevil0: i _think_ exported variables carry over to child processes whereas set only sets them for that process (i.e. the shell or current script)
[06:19] <DareDevil0> skuzzel, what kind?
[06:19] <DareDevil0> verbatim, so when you set $PATH you are setting the $PATH for that specific program?
[06:20] <DareDevil0> and when you use export is for the entire system?
[06:20] <skuzzel> It's a standard sized, 2gb SD card
[06:20] <verbatim> DareDevil0: more setting it for your shell vs. all programs launched from that shell
[06:20] <DareDevil0> verbatim, ok
[06:20] <DareDevil0> thanks
[06:21] <hanasaki> how can I make a public and private PEM file for a self signed cert ?
[06:21] <Eri> This: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446383
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> DareDevil0:  verbatim  is right. export  sets the variable for all spawned child processes also.
[06:22] <doctorZeus> I just spent 2 hours beating my head against the wall trying to get a broadcom wireless driver loaded
[06:22] <skuzzel> hmm I geuss I can use my camera as an SD reader
[06:23] <ShazbotMcNasty> I need the driver for a dwa-125 usb wireless adapter
[06:23] <doctorZeus> finally went looking in my drawers for an old linksys usb wireless, plugged it in and bam it worked..
[06:23] <skuzzel> well next time try to use the computer doc
[06:23] <skuzzel> :D
[06:24] <christpunk01> how can i add an updated package to the repository? ardour in the repository is 2.8.2 but it is at 2.8.7 and is lacking some abilities as compiled in the repository.
[06:24] <greezmunkey> skuzzel: Did you look at this?: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_mount_sd_card_in_ubuntu_eee_without_superuser_rights
[06:24] <Prime3869> doctorZeus, I had one too many of those nights with my Dell Broadcom cards. Replaced them with Intel 4965's
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> christpunk01:  thers proberly PPA repos for the newer versions
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> !ppa | christpunk01
[06:25] <doctorZeus> I'm certain I had this same pc/nic working a few versions ago
[06:25] <doctorZeus> only difference would have been it was a vm
[06:25] <christpunk01> dr_willis: thanks.
[06:25] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Remember me from yesterday?  This is where I'm at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446383
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  im lucky to rember to put on my pants in the morning.
[06:26] <christpunk01> ubottu: thanks as well
[06:26] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Hopefully my link is a refresher.  Halp?
[06:26] <crypt-0> i can not find the volume manager in gnome, it dissapeared form my panel and i can not add it
[06:26] <Prime3869> I had too much trouble with them. STA vs wrapper.
[06:27] <skuzzel> Ill give it a try devil
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  i dont see how pysdm would be causeing any of those kinds of errors.
[06:27] <christpunk01> crypt-0: do you mean disk manager?
[06:27] <theadmin> christpunk01: He means the volume control thingy i think
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  unless you somehow changed permissions/ownderships of system type files..
[06:28] <Prime3869> Speaker applet
[06:28] <crypt-0> christpunk01, no
[06:28] <theadmin> crypt-0: Is the "System tray" applet added? It puts itself there
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  so from a live cd - check permissions and ownership of    exec of program '/sbin/modprobe' failed
[06:28] <christpunk01> crypto-0: oh audio volume?
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  thats about all i can syuggest as a starting point.
[06:28] <crypt-0> christpunk01, some data loss in my home dir is the cause (probably)
[06:29] <christpunk01> crypt-0, yeah, that could fsck some stuff up
[06:29] <theadmin> christpunk01: lol. Nice one.
[06:30] <crypt-0> christpunk01, the system tray is there, but i can not add it again, i re installed gnome panel
[06:31] <christpunk01> crypt-0, looking now.
[06:32] <christpunk01> crypt-0, pretty sure you know already, but for now, just use the sound prefernce app
[06:32] <crypt-0> christpunk01, yes it hangs...
[06:32] <Eri> Dr_Willis: How do I do that?
[06:33] <crypt-0> christpunk01, yes it hangs...
[06:33] <christpunk01> crypt-0, wait so the program itself hangs up?
[06:33] <Prime3869> crypt-0, are you using pulse?
[06:34] <christpunk01> brb, switching to desktop
[06:34] <crypt-0> christpunk01, sorry for typing that twice misfire. Before it said waiting for system sound to respong... now it hangs up
[06:35] <crypt-0> Prime3869, yes
[06:35] <theadmin> How the heck to tell Ubuntu to switch layouts while in a tty? I can't type russian filenames there :/
[06:35] <crypt-0> Prime3869,  $pulseaudio -D E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[06:36] <Prime3869> crypt-0, you may want to backup your ~/.pulse dir and remove the original dir.
[06:36] <Froadac> what's the best irc client for ubuntu?
[06:36] <theadmin> Froadac: mostly XChat is used.
[06:36] <SwedeMike> Froadac: depends on what needs you have and what things you like.
[06:36] <Froadac> easy to autoconnect
[06:37] <Froadac> pretty light
[06:37] <Froadac> that's it
[06:37] <crypt-0> Prime3869, ALSA works.
[06:37] <christpunk01> Froadac: xhat
[06:37] <SwedeMike> screen+irssi ihsa been my choice for 5 years.
[06:37] <christpunk01> xchat**
[06:37] <theadmin> Froadac: xchat should do
[06:37] <Prime3869> k
[06:37] <Froadac> gracias
[06:37] <Froadac> I just got ubuntu for the first time on a computer that can connect to the web with ubuntu
[06:37] <Froadac> :)
[06:37] <christpunk01> Froadac: congrats
[06:37] <Prime3869> crypt-0, Is this Karmic? i386 or amd64?
[06:38] <Froadac> christpunk01: I come from debian land :P
[06:38] <christpunk01> Froadac: then you should have problem here.
[06:38] <theadmin> Froadac: Okay, do "sudo apt-get install xchat" to get xchat up and running (or use Synaptic/USC)
[06:38] <Froadac> I'd hope not
[06:38] <crypt-0> Prime3869, 9.10 .pulse is removed and backed up
[06:39] <Froadac> theadmin: already done :)
[06:40] <theadmin> Froadac: Our repositories are huge lol
[06:40] <christpunk01> thats what she said
[06:40] <Guest66144> lol
[06:40] <Froadac> yeah, I'm just too lazy to mess with debian tbh
[06:40] <Froadac> when I get a new computer I htink i'll use it
[06:40] <crypt-0> Prime3869, x64
[06:41] <Prime3869> crypt-0, you may also try to gnome-media and gnome-applets again. Unless you already have tried that.
[06:41] <Prime3869> I think that is what I did when I lost mine.
[06:42] <theadmin> Somehow, networkmanager will only start for one user, what the heck?
[06:42] <theadmin> I mean, when me haz two users logged on at same time it starts only for whoever was first to log in
[06:42] <Kaz> theadmin: Does it output any errors for other users?
[06:43] <theadmin> Kaz: Maybe, but it starts automatically so I can't really tell.
[06:43] <crypt-0> Prime3869, gnome-media: command not found
[06:43] <crypt-0> Prime3869, same for gnome-applets
[06:44] <Kaz> theadmin: Do you know what network manager your using? You could try starting it from a terminal. In 10.04 the nm-connection-editor is installed by default
[06:44] <christpunk01> theadmin: check user privileges
[06:44] <theadmin> christpunk01: Those are fine. As I stated, network manager only starts for whoever logs on first.
[06:44] <theadmin> Kaz: me uses network-manager-applet
[06:44] <Prime3869> crypt-0, you have all of the other applets like NetworkManager, right?
[06:44] <christpunk01> theadmin: just sayin lol, checking now
[06:44] <The_Thing> How does one install KDE 1.1 in Ubuntu?
[06:45] <omkar> kde1.1?
[06:45] <omkar> :(
[06:45] <theadmin> The_Thing: why would you need something as old as that?
[06:45] <kevin_> i think you do apt-get kubuntu-desktop no?
[06:45] <kevin_> oh nm
[06:45] <theadmin> kevin_: that gives you 4.4, right?
[06:45] <Prime3869> Sorry, how about gnome-volume-control-applet?
[06:45] <The_Thing> theadmin: well...
[06:46] <The_Thing> it's like someone's fascination with an old car, let's say...
[06:46] <christpunk01> theadmin: same thing, weird
[06:46] <theadmin> The_Thing: Well, we do not have it in repositories. Methinks you need to build it from source
[06:46] <Kaz> The_Thing: The only thing I could think of is seeing how far back there versioning software goes
[06:46] <kevin_> anyone know how to change video drivers in xubuntu? everything says to edit the xorg.conf file, but there is no xorg.conf file in xubuntu apparently
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> if you wanted to test drive kde 1.1 - well  perhaps virtualbox and an old old old disrto
[06:47] <crypt-0> Prime3869, yes.
[06:47] <theadmin> kevin_: You may create it. Ubuntu does not use it by default, however if it's created...
[06:47] <The_Thing> Dr_Willis: Like, what?
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> kevin_:  any guide that says to edit the xorg.conf - is proberly a little out of date.
[06:47] <The_Thing> I tried Slackware 4, but it was a horrible pain in the ass to attempt to set up the X server
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> The_Thing:   track down some old knoppix live cd's perhaps.
[06:48] <kevin_> theadmin: is this what i'm reading about with a stub? can i just copy and paste what people say should be in there?
[06:48] <kevin_> i am very new to this stuff
[06:48] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Knoppix uses LXDE, no?
[06:48] <theadmin> kevin_: unfortunately, so am I, never edited this file
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  years ago there was no lxde. :)  knoppix has been around for a long time
[06:49] <drc> How do I change the channel? I want change of # ubuntu to # ubuntu-br ...
[06:50] <Kaz> theadmin: You may find this relevant from your networkmanager problem. http://blog.jacobodevera.com/2009/07/30/gnome-network-manager-applet-with-multiple-users.html  I found it from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/284596
[06:50] <theadmin> drc: Type "/join #ubuntu-br"
[06:50] <Kaz> drc: type /join #ubuntu-br
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> drc:  /join #channelname
[06:50] <theadmin> Kaz: Checkin' out now.
[06:50] <dodendud> hi
[06:51] <maxxist> is anyone familiar with the redhat system-config-whatever commands to ease system maintaining under terminal?  I would love to know if there is a way to install them in ubuntu-server????
[06:51] <drc> tanks
[06:51] <dodendud> yeah
[06:51] <dodendud> use alien
[06:51] <dodendud> just download the redhat package and alien to create a deb
[06:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> Hallo peeps
[06:52] <JiKhacK> nickserv identify v3legot9
[06:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't have sound. At all.
[06:52] <ShazbotMcNasty> No sound whatsoever.
[06:52] <dodendud> but i don't believe it works well
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> using rpm stuff under ubuntu via alien can = trashed system
[06:52] <drc> thanks
[06:52] <dodendud> yeah can
[06:52] <maxxist> are the tools open source?
[06:52] <dodendud> you can walk over a street and die
[06:52] <maxxist> if they are,  i am sure someone would have done a port.
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> maxxist:  we dont even know what the tools names 'are'  -- so no idea on that.
[06:52] <dodendud> you can get hit by a spark
[06:53] <maxxist> Dr_Willis, its actually a whole set of tools.
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> maxxist:  check th tools homepages/web sites   and see if they are. Check the ubuntu ppa repos for them  perhaps.
[06:54] <verbatim> maxxist: i think in general using the system-config* stuff won't work out well for you because they edit things in /etc/sysconfig that ubuntu doesn't use
[06:54] <Dr_Willis> i agree with verbatim  -  those other distros are often very diffent in many subtle ways
[06:54]  * theadmin never even heard of such file
[06:54] <maxxist> verbatim, ahh.  ok.  thanx.
[06:55] <christpunk01> theadmin: it does the same thing to me. It sees my ethernet port but not my wireless card
[06:55] <theadmin> christpunk01: Dunno, it doesn't start-up at all here :/
[06:55] <theadmin> grah, why is transmission starting each download like for 3 minutes but then goes generally fine?
[06:55] <omkar> hey guys howz hp laptop hardware
[06:55] <christpunk01> theadmin: yeah, the network app in the panel doesn't show, I just went to network connections tho
[06:55] <omkar> any good reviews abt it
[06:56]  * The_Thing explodes from frustration
[06:56] <Rapsodius> help, grub2 takes 1min to load on boot
[06:56] <Terabyte> and they're not letting me renew my leash. FUCK! ASS!
[06:56] <AlwAyliKEtHiS> Hi
[06:56] <AlwAyliKEtHiS> Hi
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> omkar:  hp  makes a vast varity of  laptops..
[06:56] <theadmin> Rapsodius: You can install GRUB1 (grub-legacy package, if my memory is up-to-date)
[06:57] <christpunk01> Rapsodius: how many OS do you have installed?
[06:57] <wbmj> Does anyone keep getting a broken pipe error at bootup
[06:57] <Rapsodius> only karmic and windows
[06:57] <omkar> but have heard tht they have some problem in mobo n they don't provide a better support
[06:57] <omkar> i m from india
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Rapsodius:  i got one old box. that grub1 and grub2 both take a very long time to get to the initial grub menu.  Never have figured out why - I think it may be somthign to do with my HD/controllers
[06:57] <Rapsodius> but before i had debian and grub2 didn't take that much to load
[06:58] <Froadac> omkar: you have all the tech supoprt over there :P
[06:58] <LaDY-__-> Hi
[06:58] <Froadac> </bad stereotype>
[06:58]  * LaDY-__- am new :s
[06:58] <Guest70887> LaDY-__- i come from cambodia
[06:58] <doctorZeus> using gnome and the gui file explorer, is there a way to drop into a terminal window so that it takes me to that pwd?  I keep going to app/terminal and having to cd where i want to go, and don't see any way to do it but wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
[06:58] <omkar> ya but just wanted to knw if anyone had bad reviews abt it
[06:58] <Guest70887> !ip LaDY-__-
[06:58] <LaDY-__-> Guest70887: ning
[06:58] <Guest70887> Guest11864 me too :)
[06:58] <LaDY-__-> Lol
[06:59] <Guest70887> o eng leng tov
[06:59] <Guest70887> b off heoy
[06:59] <LaDY-__-> Guest70887: lunch yet ?
[06:59] <Guest70887> b is sky na
[06:59] <Gnea> Okay, I've got a problem and haven't heard about it before so I don't know if anyone else has had it - basically, if I leave firefox 3.5 open (in 9.04) for more than, say, 30-40 minutes, when I try to watch a flash video (youtube, etc) the video portion play back okay, but the audio is distorted and just repeats over and over.  Using alsa, pulseaudio is turned off (audio used to not fully sync with pulseaudio on). What could be the problem/solution?
[06:59] <LaDY-__-> Guest70887: ok bong
[06:59] <LaDY-__-> Hi
[06:59] <Kaz> doctorZues: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345153
[06:59] <Froadac> gnea: could have to do with the memory leak
[06:59] <doctorZeus> ty kaz will check it out
[07:00] <ShazbotMcNasty> I have one last problem, while connecting to my wireless network. After I put in the wpa password, it asks for a keyring password. But no matter what password I put in, it doens't work.
[07:00] <Gnea> Froadac: what memory leak?
[07:00] <Froadac> I know the one for windows has a memory leak
[07:00] <Froadac> not sure about ubuntu: haven't messed around enough
[07:00] <Rapsodius> theadmin: when I got debian on this same box, it had grub 2 installed and it worked fine
[07:00] <theadmin> Gnea: Firefox causes a huge memory leak when open for a long time
[07:00] <Gnea> this is 3.5, not 3.0
[07:00] <Rapsodius> I even have it configured with plain colours, no fancy backgrounds
[07:00] <Gnea> well, I thought they fixed it
[07:00] <theadmin> Gnea: I doubt they fixed it, 3.6 is heck of a fast though
[07:01] <Gnea> theadmin: but does sound from youtube get distorted after awhile?
[07:01] <Gnea> like
[07:01] <Kaz> ShazbotMcNasty if you have forgotten your keyring password you could move the keyring directory and that will make a new one at the next prompt. It's stored in ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[07:01] <Gnea> if I leave my browser on overnight
[07:01] <theadmin> Gnea: I didn't experience this. Not watching yt often.
[07:01] <kevin_> sorry guys.. ive been reading and i cant figure it out. how do i create an xorg.conf file in xubuntu?
[07:01] <Gnea> will it be all futzy the next day?
[07:01] <theadmin> kevin_: Just create it like... "sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and put your stuff there.
[07:02] <kevin_> yeah but how do i get that stuff though? its pretty long isnt it?
[07:02] <LaDY-__-> @@
[07:02] <Gnea> theadmin: I watch it randomly, it's just nice that things will still be running and working - that's what linux is about, you know, not that windows oh-let's-reboot-everytime-we-hit-a-keystroke mentality
[07:02] <LaDY-__-> Kevin_: hello
[07:02] <Moc> ish, 10.04 need alot of work for only 26 day left
[07:02] <Froadac> gnea: just close and restart
[07:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> rawr
[07:02] <Gnea> Froadac: I know. but, it's unacceptable.
[07:02] <drc> Where can I find the package Macchanger?
[07:03] <Froadac> edit: don't close and restart
[07:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> Kaz, I never made a keyring password....
[07:03] <Froadac> just close firefox and open again
[07:03] <Froadac> should fix it...
[07:03] <Froadac> although I haven't had thatp roblem with my minimal experience
[07:03] <Gnea> shall I repeat my reponse?
[07:03] <Froadac> ah, picky
[07:03] <Gnea> dude
[07:03] <Kaz> ShazbotMcNastY: Well that should help you make one then? It is odd that its asking for one if you never made one
[07:03] <Froadac> I come from 2.7ghz celeron land :P
[07:03] <Froadac> where everything is slow :P
[07:03] <Gnea> I've used this for years
[07:03] <Froadac> I understand though, I misinterpreted
[07:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> Kaz, can I do away with the keyrings?
[07:03] <Gnea> I used to run it on a 486
[07:04] <ShazbotMcNasty> If so, how to I do this.
[07:04] <Gnea> I know what slow is about :)
[07:04] <LaDY-__-> :-(
[07:04] <LaDY-__-> Shal hi
[07:04] <Gnea> ah he left
[07:04] <Xcell> then load opera and see if it works.
[07:04] <xiong> Is there any way to affect the sorting of dot-folders in gtk Open dialogs?
[07:04] <Xcell> doh
[07:04] <LaDY-__-> Hello all
[07:05] <Gnea> LaDY-__-: how can we help you?
[07:05] <theadmin> LaDY-__-: Good morning.
[07:05] <Rapsodius> I bet it was load_env
[07:05] <Eri> Please.  For the love of God. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1446383
[07:05] <Kaz> ShazbotMcNasty you may want to check this post out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192281
[07:05] <LaDY-__-> Theadmin: good afternoon
[07:05] <LaDY-__-> Theadmin: where a u from ?
[07:06] <theadmin> LaDY-__-: Russia. However, offtopic here. It is a support channel, thus it's only for support stuff
[07:06] <Gnea> !ubuntu > LaDY-__-
[07:06] <theadmin> Gnea: Wrong factoid
[07:06] <Gnea> is it?
[07:06] <Gnea> !ubuntu
[07:06] <LaDY-__-> Ubottu: yes i see
[07:06] <The_Thing> !kde
[07:07] <The_Thing> !kde1
[07:07] <LaDY-__-> Ubottu: what up ?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  you did check the ownership and permissions of  '/sbin/modprobe'   and other progrms in the sbin dir?
[07:07] <LaDY-__-> Errsss
[07:07] <theadmin> LaDY-__-: ubottu is just a program.
[07:07] <LaDY-__-> Theadmin: yes i know thx
[07:08] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I have no idea how.
[07:08] <LaDY-__-> Theadmin: a u bot too ?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  ls -l '/sbin/modprobe'
[07:08] <theadmin> LaDY-__-: lol no
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  if you dont have a grasp of bash shell fundamentals. it may be best to just backup your imporntant stuff and reinstall .
[07:08]  * LaDY-__- my heart will go on mp3
[07:08] <theadmin> sigh, sorry but...
[07:08] <LaDY-__-> Theadmin: yes
[07:09] <theadmin> ubottu: ops | LaDY-__- is hugely offtopic
[07:09] <LaDY-__-> @@
[07:10] <toffee> i think that the emergency is 911
[07:10] <sExy_lAdY> Ubottu: hello
[07:10] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I am about to use the program you've prescribed to me.  Just waiting for the LiveCD session to start.
[07:10] <tsimpson> !botabuse > sExy_lAdY
[07:11] <sExy_lAdY> Ubottu: yab
[07:11] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I mean command.
[07:11] <wolter> Hi, I think I found a bug in network manager
[07:11] <toffee> don't pm me, because i cant see it
[07:11] <wolter> but I don't know where its bug service is
[07:11] <sExy_lAdY> Ubottu: how can i know this room ?
[07:12] <Gnea> sExy_lAdY: why are you here?
[07:12] <sExy_lAdY> Ubottu: wow
[07:12] <toffee> let's abuse ubottu
[07:12] <sExy_lAdY> :-(
[07:12] <bazhang> toffee, lets stay on topci
[07:12] <Gnea> sExy_lAdY: please, why are you here?
[07:12] <sExy_lAdY> Kick :-(
[07:12] <Eri> Dr_Willis: All right.  Here's what I got: "-rwxr -xr -x 1 root root 42816 209-09-15 21:46 /sbin/modprobe"
[07:12] <bazhang> sExy_lAdY, please stop or you will be removed for a last time
[07:12] <theadmin> sExy_lAdY: This is a support channel, if you'd like to just talk please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <sExy_lAdY> Onh gnea y not i like here ?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Eri: those look right. so there goes that idea
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  pastebin your fstab file   - and mention the url to the pastebin in your forum post also.
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  also check that 'ls -ld /sbin' looks like ---> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-04-04 00:11 /sbin
[07:14] <Eri> Dr_Willis: All right, just a second.  It's on a separate computer that's not connected to the internet, so I'll have to use a flash drive.
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Eri: it may be faster to just backup imporntant stuff and just reinstall
[07:15] <Raid> Hello!!
[07:15] <theadmin> ubottu: hi | Raid
[07:16] <Eri> Dr_Willis: What your example had as "4096", mine has as "3610".  Is this a problem?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  thats not imporntant. the permissions./ownership is
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> i forget why those #'s can differ for directories. :)
[07:16] <Raid> Is there someone from Russia?
[07:17] <Eri> Dr_Willis: All right, thanks.  Still working on the pastebin.
[07:17] <CrustyBarnacle> !Russian | Raid
[07:17] <bazhang> Raid, in #ubuntu-ru
[07:18] <Raid> There was no one, sorry
[07:18] <theadmin> Raid: I speak russian too, you may msg me
[07:18] <bazhang> Raid, sure there is. /join #ubuntu-ru
[07:18] <kyppcgeek> http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=RSdKmX2BH7o&a=MhTEs7qLZ_E&playnext_from=ML
[07:19] <bazhang> kyppcgeek, ubuntu support question related to that?
[07:20] <bazhang> kyppcgeek, if not dont spam here
[07:20] <Dolp> I'm thinking of getting debian or slackware, what do i get?
[07:20] <kyppcgeek> lol... just giving the room some entertainment to break the tense questions.
[07:20] <bazhang> Dolp, this is ubuntu support only, try ##linux
[07:20] <kyppcgeek> ok, I won't.
[07:20] <bazhang> kyppcgeek, wrong place for it, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <Eri> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/CQ6bruAm
[07:21] <kyppcgeek> k
[07:21] <CrustyBarnacle> !offtopic | Dolp
[07:21] <Dolp> DICKS
[07:21] <drc> Very nice this video
[07:25] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Input?
[07:25] <benkay86> Lucid server -- init won't run on headless machine with serial console! Any ideas?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  those look normal also.  - so im out of ideas.
[07:25] <bazhang> benkay86, #ubuntu+1 please
[07:25] <Eri> Dr_Willis: That sucks a lot.
[07:25] <benkay86> bazhang: Thanks
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Biggest danger i see to a ubuntu system  - is often the user breaking it their selfs.
[07:26] <doctorZeus> that's been my biggest problem and was not distro specific
[07:27] <Zolomon> If I want to write a simple math game using ncurses and send results to my server - would you recommend me doing this in C or should I pick some high level language like Java? (I know C, I've just never dabbled with networking or ncurses)
[07:27] <doctorZeus> i'm loading another instance of ubuntu on vm as we speak so I can test changes there..
[07:27] <Eri> It's difficult trying to convince my friends to try Linux when I continuously bomb my own.
[07:30] <Guest29487> Eri lmao
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  perhaps you should learn the fundamentals of things befor messing with config tools
[07:30] <Eri> If I go ahead and switch to Lucid, are these channels and the forum still going to be able to help me, even before the distro exits beta?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  theres #ubuntu+1 right now
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  if you are just learning things..  and its a testing machine. Youmay as well test out the next release. If you are brave
[07:31] <zus> hello
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  also check out  http://ubuntu-manual.org/  and supply feedback on how it could be improved for a 'new' user
[07:32] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Well, perhaps I could be directed to a place that will teach me the fundamentals?  Also, am I correct in my assumption that, when 10.4 exits beta, the support for Lucid will become this channel as opposed to #ubuntu+1?
[07:32]  * theadmin can't wait but waits... Beta 2 will be out soon, Eri, good idea to wait for it at least
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  thats how it works
[07:32] <zus> has anyone ran songbird can you change the initial "wizard" settings later?  i mean i dont want it to scan and import files "just yet"
[07:32] <nishanth> can someone help me find out what makes my system freeze?
[07:33] <Dragontech> I was wondering how to rezize the partitions on my dual boot system
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Dragontech:  live cd + gparted is one way. Windows can resize its own ntfs also. (depends on the windows version)
[07:34] <Dragontech> also i am having problems trying to remove virtualbox OSE to install virtual box PUEL
[07:34] <Eri> theadmin: Well, if I wait, then I'll have to have Karmic until then.  How easy would transferring configuration files from Karmic to Lucid be?
[07:34] <bazhang> Dragontech, using gparted livecd or something other
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Dragontech:  the installer can also resize.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  you can upgrade from karmic to lucid.
[07:34] <theadmin> Eri: Well, if you update, then no probs at all
[07:35] <Eri> theadmin: But, in order for me to do that, would I have to wait until the beta ends?
[07:35] <Eri> Dr_Willis: When, now?
[07:35] <theadmin> Eri: No. Just run "update-manager -d"
[07:35] <Dragontech> i originally installed from windows so will it let me resize?
[07:36] <bazhang> Dragontech, a wubi install?
[07:36] <Dragontech> i am using windows vista
[07:36] <Kaz> Eri: Upgrading from karmic to the lucid beta almost never works correctly. If you do it be prepared to lose everything
[07:36] <Dragontech> yea
[07:36] <Eri> theadmin: What's the likelihood of me being able to do that if I'm running a LiveCD session? :)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  you could now.. but that may or may not work.
[07:36] <knoppies> I have a gnome panel on the left of my desktop, its on auto hide, and I dont know how to unhide it. I would like to remove it entirely, any suggestions?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  best bet is to get a daily build iso and do a clean install.
[07:37] <Eri> Kaz: Well, I'll transfer valuable files to a separate partition anyway.  I have a feeling I'll need to.
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> knoppies:  you have only 1 panel or 2+ of them?
[07:37] <bazhang> Dragontech, not sure about a wubi install, was that just for demo purposes, or more long term
[07:37] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, 3 of them. one at the top, one at the bottom, and then this autohide one on the left.
[07:37] <Eri> Dr_Willis: As I recall, I have the disc lying somewhere in my dorm.  What exactly do you refer to when you say "daily build"?
[07:38] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, there maybe two or more that Im not aware of. But I cant see any signs of them. If I have to reset the gnome panels back to default, I dont mind. Its not a difficult set up.
[07:38] <Dragontech> i installed using wubi to test ubuntu because i am not to familliar with linux and i wanted to see weather i would consider switching
[07:38] <researcher1> I wish to develop the skills as a linux system programmer. Where can I get the resources,tutorials,forum?
[07:38] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Also, if I do a clean install, can I just overwrite the partition that Karmic is on with ease, as I recall?
[07:39] <knoppies> researcher1, the web for starters. ubuntuforums might have a section for that (I should look). What languages are you interested in?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  yes. or delete it/repartion befor doing the installer.
[07:39] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, do you know how to fix my gnomepanel problem?
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> knoppies:  you cant delete the last panel. you can alt-click to drag the panel about
[07:39] <researcher1> I know only c language
[07:40] <researcher1> though basic, fortran r also known
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> knoppies:  and to get to its menu settings. you go to right click on the panel in a proper place.. (its annoying with a very full panel)
[07:40] <Dragontech> my biggest problem is that i have a few pieces of soft ware that i use that are not linux compatible and so i am trying to test virtualbox but i cant get the virutalbox to allow me to use any of my usb devices even after installing guest additions
[07:40] <researcher1> knoppies: I know c language
[07:40] <theadmin> researcher1: Most of Linux (kernel code, at least) is written in C, so you are lucky there
[07:41] <hipitihop> is there a ubuntu security channel ? or anyone here familiar with tiger ouput ?
[07:41] <researcher1> theadmin: thanks for the wishes
[07:41] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, I have 3 of them. Alt drag isnt working. I just end up dragging my selected window.
[07:41] <Kaz> Researcher1: You may want look at these links, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming  and http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-c-and-c-compilers-in-ubuntu-and-testing-your-first-c-and-c-program.html
[07:41] <theadmin> Dragontech: Do you use Sun Virtualbox or Virtualbox OSE?
[07:42] <Kaz> Dragontech: Do you have a USB filter set up in the VMs settings?
[07:42] <Dragontech> i am trying to switch from virtualbox OSE to PUEL
[07:42] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I might make the partition for Ubuntu bigger.
[07:42] <hipitihop> Dragontech, normally virtualbox gives a list of devices under the
[07:42] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Which I actually have some measure of confidence in my ability to do. :D
[07:42] <theadmin> Dragontech: OSE has no USB support, thus you must use the Sun/Oracle version
[07:43] <Dragontech> i tried uninstalling OSE and installing the PUEL version but it tells me there is a conflict
[07:43] <researcher1> Kaz:thanks
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  i tend to keep /home/ on its own partition also
[07:45] <Eri> Dr_Willis: There ARE a few kinks I need to work out in terms of how I format my /home/ folder and where I put it.  I have a separate partition that's pretty much what would go into /home/ folder, but I'm yet to know how I can merge the two folders, because, as they're set up now, confusion abounds.
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  dont confuse the term 'folders' with 'filesystems' and 'partitions' :)
[07:46] <Dragontech> how do i get rid of OSE so that PUEL will install properly
[07:46] <bazhang> Dragontech, how was ose installed
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> Dragontech:  try removeing it via the command line.. mention what errors it says
[07:46] <Dragontech> through the software center
[07:47] <Dragontech> i tried uninstalling from the software center
[07:47] <Dragontech> but the PUEL version said it cant install because of a conflict
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> When in doubt. fall back to the command line
[07:48] <Dragontech> how do i remove it from the commandline
[07:48] <Kaz>  Dragontech: "sudo aptitude remove virtualbox-ose" should remove the OSE version
[07:49] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Wait, is /home/ a filesystem of its own?
[07:49] <Dragontech> i think that actually worked thank you
[07:50] <Kaz> All /wordshere are virtual file systems (I think). By defualt ubuntu puts them all in the same parition as /
[07:50] <Dragontech> from a wubi install is there a way to resize the partition
[07:50] <Kaz> Dragontech: If you are looking for a full featured Vbox install the actual vbox website has a section just for linux(debian) hosts. http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[07:50] <bindaas> do packages haves same names for 64 bit and 32 bit system?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  if you set it up that way.. it can be
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  i got my /home/ on its own 1TB hard drive
[07:51] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I'll have to try that when I upgrade to Lucid, WHICH I DON'T HAVE TO DO NOW BECAUSE SOMEONE SOLVED MY PROBLEM.
[07:51] <bindaas> so if i have to install 64 bit gnome-core the package name is same ?
[07:51] <Kaz> Bindass: Yes
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  so the forum helped? or did i miss it in here?
[07:52] <Kaz> Bindass: Techincally the packages are diffrent but aptitude and apt-get sort that all out for you
[07:52] <bindaas> Kaz:aha that's cool
[07:52] <Kaz> bindass: So if you wanted say firefox you would do "sudo aptitiude install firefox" no matter if your on a 32 bit or 64 bit machine
[07:52] <bindaas> good good
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  yep. he saw the fstab issue.. looks like it was a fstab problem after all
[07:53] <bindaas> Kaz:thank you
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> I looked at it and saw 'defaults' on the wrong line. :) and dident notice the 'users' there
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  told you puttng the fstab on the forum thread was a good idea. :)
[08:02] <Eri> Dr_Willis: Well, thanks for telling me to.
[08:04] <n00b> hello all
[08:04] <n00b> i have just installed 9.04
[08:04] <Eri> Dr_Willis: I'll probably come to this channel again when I muster up the balls to put /home/ on its own partition.
[08:04] <n00b> though my monitor supports a refresh rate of 75 hz,in the display settings only 60 hz is available
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  its a rather trivial thing to do. I always use gparted befor i start the isntaller.. and tell the isntller exactly where to put things
[08:05] <n00b> how do i change the refresh rate to 70 or 75 hz?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> The installer chould use some work in that area. it takes longer to tell it where to put all the mountpoints then it does to do most of the rest of the install
[08:06] <Eri> Dr_Willis: The installer is able to assign /home/ to a separate partition?  What if I'm not clean installing?
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> Eri:  you can tell it to mount stuff  anywereh you want.
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> You could move /home/ to some other partition afterwards if you wanted to also
[08:07] <n00b> how do i enable refresh rates above 60 hz?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> You could put /home/ on a remote NFS server if you wanted to get fancy :)
[08:07] <Moc> argh, freaking 10.04... beta 1 is very problematic
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> be back in 10... gotta reboots to test updates.
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> Moc:  ive very few issues with it here.. just updated it.. rebooting.. be back in #ubuntu+1 in 10 min..or less
[08:10] <Nullbeat> moc: what problems are you having with 10.04?
[08:10] <Moc> For example, my Fn laptop key seem to be disabled
[08:11] <brand0n> i installed then uninstalled kubuntu-desktop package earlier now "lock screen" wont work
[08:11] <brand0n> any ideas?>
[08:11] <Moc> so when I undock, I can't switch my laptop screen one, and I need to do a force shutdown and boot back
[08:12] <Moc> This program that does post on facebook and stuff sometime take 100% of CPU, and configuration of facebook is problematic...
[08:12] <Moc> vlc icon in the top bar have a white background
[08:12] <aaron_> I've 'fixed' the wireless problem slightly
[08:12] <bazhang> Moc, lucid support not here, its in #ubuntu+1
[08:12] <aaron_> as in, I can 'connect' to the wireless
[08:13] <Nullbeat> Moc: I have the white icon background problem as well, haven't looked into a fix for that yet...
[08:13] <aaron_> and the router is reachable - but now it says I'm connected, but I can't do anything
[08:13] <Moc> Nullbeat: moving to #ubuntu+1
[08:13] <aaron_> no google, no irc, nuffin
[08:13] <debian_noob> im unable to change my refresh rate to above 60 hz
[08:13] <Nullbeat> ok
[08:13] <debian_noob> my monitor supports upto 75 hz
[08:14] <debian_noob> how do i change the rate?
[08:14] <debian_noob> in display preferences only 60 hz is allowed
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> debian_noob:  state your video card/chipset to the channel.. :)
[08:16] <debian_noob> intel 946GZ
[08:16] <HowDoI> When installing Ubuntu Server 9.10, when selecting additional software to install, what gets installed with "Mail Server"?
[08:18] <HowDoI> Is there a better channel to go to for Ubuntu Server help?
[08:18] <debian_noob> this is a screenshot of my pisplay preferences: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9220/screenshotse.png
[08:19] <debian_noob> *display
[08:19] <iceroot> HowDoI: postfix
[08:19] <HowDoI> Thanks
[08:20] <iceroot> HowDoI: you can deselect "mail-server" or other things and install them adfter by using apt-get
[08:20] <tr1sth3t> debian_noob, uname -a output?
[08:21] <debian_noob> Linux Ubuntu-9 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:23] <debian_noob> tr1sth3t, Linux Ubuntu-9 2.6.28-18-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 12 04:40:52 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:24] <debian_noob> i googled it
[08:24] <debian_noob> and found an article telling me to edit xorg.conf
[08:24] <debian_noob> i did
[08:24] <debian_noob> but with no luck
[08:26] <phenom> Guys/gals,, I'm trying to hack up some key bindings for special function keys(assist, s1, and VAIO) on a vaio. I can't recall the method of displaying a depressed keys control codes. How can you display it outside of the "acpi_listen" method.
[08:26] <ne7work> please someone help me with phpmyadmin
[08:27] <Anarhist> i needed to downgrade a package, is there a way to make package update thing to ignore it in the future, some sort of 'freeze version' thing?
[08:27] <phenom> "xev" is the answer to my question.
[08:28] <phenom> in case any one wanted to know :)
[08:29] <ne7work> please someone help me with phpmyadmin
[08:29] <iceroot> Anarhist: hold
[08:29] <mcurrington> ne7work: Have you tried #phpmyadmin ?
[08:29] <debian_noob> tr1sth3t: what now?
[08:30] <debian_noob> tr1sth3t : what now?
[08:31] <artypig78> any1 here sell VPS?
[08:31] <bazhang> artypig78, that is offtopic for here
[08:31] <artypig78> oopz
[08:31] <artypig78> soz
[08:32] <debian_noob> anyone help me?
[08:32] <knoppies> no problem artypig78
[08:32] <artypig78> ;)
[08:32] <bazhang> debian_noob, care to restate your problem, all on one line?
[08:33] <debian_noob> yes
[08:33] <debian_noob> my monitor supports a refresh rate of 75 hz but in display preferences, only 60 hz is available.i want to change it to 75
[08:34] <debian_noob> my eyes hurt
[08:35] <bazhang> debian_noob, which video card, what drivers, how installed, which version of ubuntu
[08:35] <debian_noob> intel 946GZ
[08:35] <debian_noob> ubuntu 9.04
[08:36] <KayAteChef> I have two Ubuntu boxes connected via ethernet and I can ping the outside world on the other one but I can't browse the web.
[08:36] <debian_noob> how do i find out the drivers?
[08:36] <azar> hi all
[08:36] <ubuntu> hello and happy easter
[08:36] <Guest29487> merry xmas
[08:37] <azar> asl please..?
[08:37] <Guest29487> 91 male
[08:37] <bazhang> azar, not here
[08:37] <azar> ok...
[08:37] <Kaz> KayAteChef: What does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[08:37] <Guest29487> shyt?
[08:37] <ubuntu> i am using livecd and want to use linux fdisk to resize the partition i shrunk using ntfsresize could you provide an example? plz ;)
[08:38] <azar> i have grandpa with 91 age...
[08:38] <debian_noob> bazhang, how do i find out the drivers installed?
[08:38] <azar> i hope he's not you...
[08:38] <bazhang> Guest29487, azar #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[08:38] <chx> Really hats off to the Ubuntu community for all but all this progress coupled with totally missing documentation fills me dread to upgrade the OS. The 9.10 upgrade broke my scanner and only now did a solution surface on ubuntuforums (good i did not need to scan since last fall lol) and i needed a hand from udev developers to get my phone HSDPA modem working again. is there a paid support option that helps ?
[08:38] <Kaz> ubuntu: Is there a reason you need fdisk instead of gparted?
[08:38] <KayAteChef> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:39] <ubuntu> gparted says theres 0 space to resize
[08:39] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: Please can you pastebin the output of "dig google.com @<IP_ADDRESS>" (without the quotes)
[08:39] <Kaz> KayAteChef: What does the gateway look like? type ifconfig to see it
[08:39] <bazhang> debian_noob, checked in synaptic package manager?
[08:39] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: It might tell you that dig is not installed, in which case, "sudo apt-get install dig" and try again
[08:40] <Dolp> is there a place that has all the ubuntu games rated by popularity?
[08:40] <KayAteChef> well first of all that address is wrong
[08:40] <KayAteChef> and I can't use apt-get
[08:40] <fahadsadah> Oh, right
[08:40] <KayAteChef> because it can't resolve the repos
[08:40] <debian_noob> bazhang, check meaning?
[08:40] <fahadsadah> Obviously
[08:40] <bazhang> Dolp, 25 best linux games on the internet
[08:40] <iceroot> !games | Dolp (there should be alink in this message)
[08:40] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: I'm trying to determine if your DNS server is at fault
[08:40] <fahadsadah> Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:41] <ubuntu> even sudo gparted says the minimum size is the same as the max
[08:41] <KayAteChef> well the computer it is hooked up is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:41] <bazhang> debian_noob, open up synaptic package manager; search term is intel
[08:41] <KayAteChef> and that computer has a 3G usb modem on it
[08:41] <KayAteChef> that is the computer I am using now
[08:41] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: Can you ping your gateway?
[08:42] <KayAteChef> the default route is <IP_ADDRESS> according to network-manager
[08:42] <KayAteChef> I'll try it
[08:43] <ubuntu_> to you spick french ?
[08:43] <fahadsadah> That won't work.
[08:43] <debian_noob> bazhang, xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed
[08:43] <fahadsadah> Pastebin output of "route" please.
[08:43] <fahadsadah> buntu_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois
[08:43] <Zolomon> "./configure - permission denied." Any way to fix that? :)
[08:43] <ubuntu_> to you spink french ?
[08:43] <bazhang> ubuntu_, in #ubuntu-fr
[08:44] <fahadsadah> ubuntu_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois
[08:44] <ubuntu_> qui etes vou ?
[08:44] <nishanth> i just joined a server 208. something is there something like a history for this thin to findout what that previous channel was?
[08:44] <bazhang> ubuntu_, /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:44] <sapphireprayer> *** Excuse me, I am using a horrible TSSTcorp Combo CD. Under Gentoo with HAL, I set a HAL fdi file to stop autodetect of the CD device. However it does not work under Ubuntu 9.10, while my system pauses from time to time.
[08:44]  * Zolomon is trying to install ncurses.
[08:44] <sapphireprayer> Where should I care?
[08:45] <sapphireprayer> Thank you very much.
[08:45] <fahadsadah> ubuntu_: C'est #ubuntu. Nous parlons francais pas.
[08:45] <fahadsadah> /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:45] <hezza> do i need to mount the drive before i fdisk it?
[08:45] <sapphireprayer> something like /etc/hal/fdi/information/media-check-disable-storage_model_CDW_DVD_TS_L462D.fdi
[08:45] <sapphireprayer> hezza, no.
[08:45] <KayAteChef> fahadsadah: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/wvPqEVbk
[08:45] <sapphireprayer> hezza, fdisk it before mount the drive :P
[08:46] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: Ah, you have a eth0 and a ppp0
[08:46] <DrDank> Hey guys.. Whats the process of installing a theme for the Gnome desktop??
[08:46] <fahadsadah> Please can I see the output of ifconfig?
[08:46] <hezza> i do fdisk -i and it says cannot open /dev/sda
[08:46] <fahadsadah> (it's quite long, you'll need to pastebin it)
[08:46] <nishanth> is there a way to find out which channel i was on the last time?
[08:46] <fahadsadah> hezza: sudo fdisk -i
[08:46] <bazhang> DrDank, drag the tar.gz to the themes manager usually works
[08:47] <fahadsadah> nishanth: Unfortunately there isn't.
[08:47] <hezza> kewl
[08:47] <fahadsadah> #freenode can help you find a specific channel
[08:47] <KayAteChef> fahadsadah: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/Eg4pR6tW
[08:47] <nishanth> Damn they were so helpful
[08:47] <Zolomon> How can I set permissions for a file?
[08:47] <KayAteChef> chmod
[08:47] <sapphireprayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/408965/ Here is my FDI file, how to make an equivalent settings in Ubuntu 9.10? Thank you.
[08:47] <wookiehangover> DrDank: download the theme, open System -> Preferences -> Appearance, drag the theme you downloaded (probably a .tar.gz) into the Appearance menu, and you should be able to select it
[08:47] <Zolomon> Thanks
[08:48] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: Great, a public IP address is terminated on your machine
[08:48] <hezza> it says /dev/sda2           13446       14593     9212928    7  HPFS/NTFS and i want to split it in two
[08:48] <fahadsadah> Your routing table looks fine
[08:48] <DrDank> Whats a good place to download themes? i found gnome-look.org... but i dont see anything on the sidebar about 'gnome themes'
[08:48] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: Can you ping a random internet host by IP address?
[08:48] <KayAteChef> yes
[08:48] <debian_noob> bazhang, xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg is also installed
[08:48] <KayAteChef> on both machines I can
[08:48] <fahadsadah> But not by hostname?
[08:48] <hezza> my mom says i have five minutes, shall i just stick to vista
[08:49] <KayAteChef> I can do it by hostname on the other box yet
[08:49] <fahadsadah> can't?
[08:49] <KayAteChef> can't*
[08:49] <KayAteChef> :D
[08:49] <fahadsadah> I'm sorry, I don't seem to understand your problem
[08:49] <fahadsadah> What are you trying to do?
[08:49] <Kaz> Zoloman: You may want to look at http://ss64.com/bash/chmod.html
[08:49] <KayAteChef> browse the web
[08:49] <wookiehangover> DrDank: this may be helpful for you http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/pretty-penguin-five-great-themes-for-the-gnome-desktop.ars
[08:49] <KayAteChef> and I cannot
[08:49] <debian_noob> DrDank, sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[08:49] <fahadsadah> KayAteChef: On that box, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:50] <fahadsadah> (or any public IP address of your choice?)
[08:50] <KayAteChef> yes I can
[08:50] <fahadsadah> On that box, can you resolve hostnames?
[08:50] <KayAteChef> no
[08:50] <hezza> i suck at this
[08:50] <fahadsadah> Edit your /etc/resolv.conf to read:
[08:50] <fahadsadah> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:50] <fahadsadah> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:51] <debian_noob> bazhang, drivers are installed
[08:52] <KayAteChef> now it is resolving
[08:52] <KayAteChef> and i can browse to google
[08:52] <KayAteChef> wow thanks, mate
[08:52] <fahadsadah> Great!
[08:52] <KayAteChef> I just learned a thing or two
[08:52] <fahadsadah> You're welcome
[08:52] <fahadsadah> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> are public DNS servers run by Google
[08:53] <KayAteChef> pretty neat :D
[08:53] <KayAteChef> my ISP runs crap DNSs
[08:53] <DrDank> So, linux ubuntu is pretty customizable?
[08:53] <sangho> maybe..
[08:54] <debian_noob> DrDank, very
[08:54] <sangho> better than windows
[08:54] <debian_noob> much better
[08:54] <DrDank> Im running it on vmware, playing around with it.. seems complicated.
[08:54] <debian_noob> DrDank, not very complicated
[08:54] <DrDank> I been trying to find 'advant window mananger' in the add/remove programs but its not listed.
[08:54] <DrDank> even updated the list.
[08:54] <Kaz> DrDank There is a lot going on but if you take it one step at a time its not to hard to figure out
[08:55] <fahadsadah> DrDank: Add/remove programs?
[08:55] <fahadsadah> What version are you using? 9.04?
[08:55] <debian_noob> DrDank, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[08:55] <DrDank> Nah, this is a older version. 8
[08:55] <fahadsadah> OK
[08:55] <DrDank> debian_noob, thanks alot :)
[08:55] <debian_noob> DrDank, anytime :)
[08:56] <debian_noob> DrDank, use synapic
[08:56] <debian_noob> *synaptic
[08:56] <DrDank> wait. said couldnt find package mananger.
[08:56] <debian_noob> what?
[08:56] <sapphireprayer> *** Excuse me, I am using a horrible TSSTcorp Combo CD. Under Gentoo with HAL, I set a HAL fdi file to stop autodetect of the CD device. However it does not work under Ubuntu 9.10, while my system pauses from time to time.
[08:56] <sapphireprayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/408965/ Here is my FDI file, how to make an equivalent settings in Ubuntu 9.10? Thank you.
[08:56] <debian_noob> DrDank,  YOU SURE?
[08:57] <DrDank> coudnt find package advant-window-mananger
[08:57] <bazhang> DrDank, typo
[08:57] <debian_noob> DrDank,  its avant
[08:57] <DrDank> ooh
[08:57] <DrDank> gotcha
[08:57] <debian_noob> bazhang, hey what do i do?
[08:58] <nomad77> DrDank: advant-window-navigator
[08:58] <debian_noob> DrDank, but you have to be running compiz for that
[08:58] <nomad77> /s/avant/advant sorry
[08:58] <bazhang> debian_noob, this is jaunty? seem to remember a bug regarding some intel gpu and jaunty, you may wish to check the xorg-edgers PPA or upgrade to karmic
[08:59] <debian_noob> ill upgrade later
[08:59] <debian_noob> but last time i installed this,it worked well
[08:59] <WhiteDawn> debian_noob: actualy, its not fixed in karmic etheir, suposedly its fixed in lucid
[08:59] <debian_noob> maybe the updated drivers have a bug?
[08:59] <debian_noob> WhiteDawn, i see
[08:59] <DrDank> uhm cant seem to get it to work.
[08:59] <MoeRoman> Hi folks
[08:59] <debian_noob> DrDank,  what happened now?
[08:59] <DrDank> #1. sudo -i (then pass) #2 apt-get install avant-window-manager
[09:00] <debian_noob> its one command
[09:00] <DrDank> Yeah
[09:00] <DrDank> sudo -i first then the apt-get
[09:00] <debian_noob> DrDank, sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[09:00] <MoeRoman> Has anyone had uploading causes your system to totally crash?
[09:00] <debian_noob> in one line
[09:01] <DrDank> I did one command, and its still saying package not found. Of course its not evend ownloading really.
[09:01] <WhiteDawn> MoeRoman: writing all 0's to a external filesystem caused my system to crash, dont know if it is related though
[09:01] <debian_noob> DrDank, sudo apt-get update
[09:02] <MoeRoman> I have had this problem, where, when I upload (whether through ftp, http, or bittorrent) my system totally crashes, reisub won't work, nothing works except power cycling
[09:02] <debian_noob> first update your package list
[09:02] <mtduv> Hi, does anybody know a quick reference for essential third-party applications used in Ubuntu?
[09:02] <DrDank> its done updating
[09:02] <debian_noob> now try installing
[09:02] <DrDank> still no luck.
[09:02] <debian_noob> open synaptic
[09:03] <DrDank> I dont even know where that is
[09:03] <MoeRoman> WhiteDawn: not sure either
[09:03] <nomad77> DrDank: you're saying manager its navigator
[09:03] <debian_noob> system->administration->synaptic
[09:03] <Dr_Willis> mtduv:  your essential may be my useless. :)  what sort of things are you looking for?
[09:03] <MoeRoman> It's not my HW because I dual boot, and that has never happened on the wintendo
[09:03] <DrDank> yes. oitw orked avant-window-navigator
[09:03] <DrDank> y
[09:03] <debian_noob> okay
[09:03] <DrDank> cool thanks.
[09:04] <debian_noob> :)
[09:04] <DrDank> just reading and fooling aorund with 'eye candy desktop gnome' tutorials
[09:04] <debian_noob> cool
[09:04] <DrDank> I liked the compiz effects.. just one though. the wobbly windows.
[09:04] <MoeRoman> Just wondering whether anyone has had this problem
[09:04] <mtduv> I guess things that would make a person be productive in a Linux environment
[09:04] <debian_noob> DrDank,  check out my desktop :)
[09:05] <DrDank> k. its going to be slow. im doing assload of downloaidng
[09:05] <mtduv> The last time I used Ubuntu, the rating system in the software center was really useful, but updating to Karmic, I see that went away :-(
[09:05] <DrDank> I dont think its going to dcc, tinypic it?
[09:05] <MoeRoman> There was an old thread on the ubuntu forums about this issue being a kernel problem, and there was no resolution
[09:06] <MoeRoman> Has me kind of bummed out, because it's a showstopper
[09:06] <Guest92961> aola
[09:06] <MoeRoman> I have to boot into the wintendo to perform remote backups :(
[09:07] <debian_noob> DrDank, http://img542.imageshack.us/i/screenshotg.png/
[09:07] <DrDank> I seen one screen shot, it had the cpu meter and all kinds of shit in it
[09:07] <debian_noob> okay
[09:07] <DrDank> nice, I like the mac launch bar.
[09:07] <DrDank> Id like ot have one of those.
[09:07] <debian_noob> i dont like that stuff
[09:08] <debian_noob> its avant
[09:08] <DrDank> the cpu info
[09:08] <bazhang> DrDank, watch the language please
[09:08] <DrDank> Im trying to find where avant installed too lol sorry im a newbie
[09:08] <bazhang> DrDank, you are thinking of conky most likely
[09:08] <debian_noob> DrDank, all sw is installed in one place
[09:08] <DrDank> yeah conky
[09:08] <debian_noob> DrDank, its not like windows
[09:09] <DrDank> debian_noob, yeah ive noticed. lol confusing
[09:09] <debian_noob> DrDank, check accessories
[09:09] <debian_noob> its there
[09:09] <DrDank> I did debian_noob
[09:09] <DrDank> oops, scrolled up by accident
[09:09] <debian_noob> not thwrw?
[09:09] <debian_noob> *there
[09:09] <shazbotmcnasty> wrw
[09:09] <DrDank> had to logout log back in
[09:09] <MoeRoman> It's strange, sometimes, uploading a small image as an email attachment and bam, other times, bittorrent is uploading at 80 k and all is ok
[09:09] <debian_noob> DrDank, no need
[09:10] <DrDank> ah i found it but its not comming up
[09:10] <debian_noob> compiz is running?
[09:10] <antivirtel> hello all
[09:11] <MoeRoman> I might just have to switch to PC-BSD over this, I am already interested in it, but this might just be it
[09:11] <antivirtel> here is a problem, my computer always ejects my DVD tray, and I cant do anything... I think that is not ubuntu's problem, but what can I do ?
[09:11] <debian_noob> DrDank, you have to run a compositing manager like compiz
[09:11] <DrDank> nope, compiz isnt even running
[09:11] <debian_noob> you have to
[09:11] <debian_noob> avant needs it
[09:12] <debian_noob> DrDank, compiz not working or you didnt run it?
[09:12] <DrDank> Nah Compiz isnt working.- im doing sudo apt-get update compiz
[09:12] <MoeRoman> Anyway, too bad no one has heard anything about this, it has gone on for months
[09:12] <debian_noob> DrDank, what?
[09:13] <debian_noob> DrDank, its not even installed?
[09:13] <MoeRoman> Have a nice one everyone
[09:13] <MoeRoman> Moe out
[09:13] <DrDank> I dunno debian_noob
[09:13] <debian_noob> try compiz --replace
[09:13] <DrDank> like I said. I dont know anything about this, can I msg ya?? ive got a million windows open
[09:13] <debian_noob> okay
[09:18] <tog22> newbie question: i'm installing ubuntu & already have an empty partition, how do i select it in the installer? (sorry if this is the wrong place to ask)
[09:19] <moetunes> tog22: right click it and select edit
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> thers a manual partioning option in the installer. You  have a empty partition? or Unallocated space?
[09:19] <Dr_Willis> if part of the HD is unallocated - i think the installer asks if you wan tto use 'unallocated' space and it can auto partion that space.
[09:20] <Dr_Willis> thats often the easiest way.
[09:20] <tog22> an empty partition (moetunes - right click what?)
[09:20] <tog22> i'm at the stage in the installer where it shows exiting partitions, and gives me 4 options:
[09:20] <moetunes> tog22: when the partioner comes up it will show the empty space
[09:21] <moetunes> tog22: click the coloured bit representing the space
[09:22] <tog22> thanks, it does - it has the coloured bar at the top showing the 3 partitions i have, and gives 4 options: install side by die; erase & use entire diskl use largest continuous free space; partition manually
[09:22] <tog22> moetunes - i've clicked & right clicked it with no apparent effect
[09:22] <sapphireprayer>  I am using a horrible TSSTcorp Combo CD. Under Gentoo with HAL, I set a HAL fdi file to stop autodetect of the CD device. However it does not work under Ubuntu 9.10, while my system pauses from time to time.
[09:23] <sapphireprayer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/408965/ Here is my FDI file, how to make an equivalent settings in Ubuntu 9.10? Thank you.
[09:23] <moetunes> tog22: you can choose the use largest continuous free space or select manual edit
[09:24] <tog22> ah manual edit seems to let me select it
[09:24] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: is it listed in /etc/fstab?
[09:25] <mkas12> hi bot
[09:25] <tog22> there i can click on /dev/sda3 (my intended partition), but when i click forward i get an error: 'No root file system is defined. Please correct this from the partitioning menu'. -
[09:26] <mkas12> anybody here
[09:26] <Marina> HOLA
[09:26] <moetunes> tog22: part of setting the partition is to choose a mount point - as a min tou nedd /
[09:26] <Marina> SOY NUEVA
[09:26]  * kongove waiting for 10.04
[09:27]  * mkas12 waiting too
[09:27] <jongbergs> !hi
[09:27] <nomad77> !es |Marina
[09:27] <kongove> mkas12: do you like the default theme?
[09:27] <DexterLB> how do I stop pulseaudio in order to run it with another config? (following http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2009-06/msg01364.html but with pulseaudio-module-jack from main)
[09:27] <mkas12> yes
[09:28] <ZzZzZz> every time I mount an external hard drive on my computer, if I try to write to it, I get the error 'software caused connection abort' which causes the drive to 'dissapear' and when trying to list directories and such, I get 'Transportation Endpoint not connected'
[09:28] <ZzZzZz> this is very annoying
[09:28] <mkas12> as xubuntu user (netbook specific)
[09:28] <kongove> DexterLB: killall -9  puseaudio
[09:28] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, no
[09:28] <DexterLB> i mean https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2007-March/000330.html not http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Fedora/2009-06/msg01364.html sorryt
[09:28] <DexterLB> -t
[09:28] <mikespace> hello
[09:28] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[09:28] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: what about in /etc/mtab?
[09:29] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, sorry.
[09:29] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, it has.
[09:29] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, is it the one you mena?
[09:29] <sapphireprayer> s/mena/mean/
[09:29] <mkas12> damn i cant concentrate on lerning c today
[09:30] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: you need to comment that line out and it won't get mounted at boot
[09:30] <mkas12> test
[09:30] <DexterLB> kongove: it doesn't work: http://uppix.net/a/b/e/155cbe0a2a08824af626f915457ee.png
[09:30] <DexterLB> also tried with root, same result
[09:30] <freeride> guys, please help. How to configure bridge on karmik?
[09:30] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, well, in fact, there is no disc in my cdrom.
[09:30] <mtduv> what's the easiest way to switch caps lock with control?
[09:31] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, And the system stops from time to time.
[09:31] <freeride> guys, please help. How to configure bridge on karmik?
[09:31] <DexterLB> !patience | freeride
[09:32] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: I thought you didn't want the cd drive to automatically be mounted?
[09:32] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, I want the system not checking my cd drive all the time.
[09:32] <mkas12> sry my first days in xubuntu  i cant help
[09:32] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, it seems in the past HAL (in my gentoo) always check it and I disable it.
[09:32] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, But is Ubuntu 9.10 using HAL?
[09:33] <freeride> guys, please help. How to configure bridge on karmik?
[09:33] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: afaik it is - and udev - how you control it is beyond me I'm afraid
[09:33] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, I see. udev rules ...
[09:34] <tripelb> it's like a foreign language in here )Where's my flying bunny?(
[09:34] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, and there is no good tools for me to manage it...
[09:34] <sapphireprayer> moetunes, Thank you very much.
[09:35] <moetunes> sapphireprayer: you could leave it unmounted and just mount it when you  need it
[09:35] <ArmitageX> If I just copy the ubuntu cd files to a flash drive with grub installed so it boots, will I be able to make changes or does it have to be installed somehow?
[09:35] <sapphireprayer> I will try.
[09:36] <moetunes> ArmitageX: have a look at unetbootin
[09:36] <moetunes> !unetbootin > ArmitageX
[09:37] <ArmitageX> ok ty
[09:38] <alexcg> Hello #ubuntu. I've got a problem. My system doesn't show splash screen at boot up. I get the following error: usplash: No usable themes found for 1024x768. As it turns out it's a well known bug, but I've not yet managed to find a workaround. Has someone faced the same problem? I'm using a distro derived from Ubuntu 8.04 LTS.
[09:39] <iceroot> alexcg: so you are not using ubuntu?
[09:40] <hmw> On my Aspire One Netbook (1.6 GHz, 500 MB RAM) with Jaunty, the Gnome menu takes 20 seconds to display, when I click it the first time. I already tried gtk-update-icon-cache -f /home/myname/myiconsets/myiconset with no improvement. Any ideas, why this takes so long?
[09:40] <alexcg> iceroot: yes, but the problem was on ubuntu as well.
[09:42] <hmw> alexcg: perhaps another frame-buffer resolution might help? add vga=ask as a boot parameter to the kernel, to try out different modi of your VGA. Maybe beautifying your init output might be another solution. I have green [ OK ] messages now and the system tells me it's name in ASCII letters via figlet.
[09:44] <alexcg> hmw: it seems that the problem deals with artwork, not resolution of the screen.
[09:44] <arand> alexcg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3568252&postcount=2 helpful? (for gutsy, might be relevant)
[09:44] <hmw> alexcg: well... I guess you need to check out uspash then
[09:46] <alexcg> arand: thanks for the link. Maybe it'll help.
[09:49] <ghufran> hi
[09:49] <hmw> !hi > ghufran
[09:49] <hmw> oops... i wanted this to be a public message ... argh
[09:49] <mkas12> do you mean kden live works on my netbook???
[09:50] <apparle> I am using lirc on /dev/ttyS1 but I am unable to access /dev/ttyS0 from other applications
[09:50] <ghufran> my system is taking loads of memory... i installed htop and it says the process /usr/bin/X is taking up 46% memory (of 4GB) .. and the system is way too slow... this happens when the system is been on for some time .. is there a way to clean up memory dirty memory? looks to me like memory management is messed up ..
[09:52] <moetunes> ghufran: have a read of the X log and see if it is having issues
[09:52] <srikanthlogic> Can someone help me with connecting to a Juniper VPN..
[09:52] <ghufran> moetunes: how do i do that?
[09:53] <hmw> ghufran: what Ubuntu version? My Jaunty is up for 6 days and shows no signs of weakening
[09:53] <hmw> ghufran: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:53] <moetunes> ghufran: it is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:53] <Mylove`> Bonjour
[09:53] <srikanthlogic> i followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1331886 , but not able to do an rdp to a machine on my VPN
[09:54] <hmw> ghufran: might be a good idea to check for errors first, before reading the whole thing: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[09:54] <hmw> ghufran: and warnings, WW
[09:55] <apparle> guys... when in command line and using some command like 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log' is there anyway I can't go up so how to read whole of the log?
[09:56] <Scorpion_on> g
[09:57] <moetunes> apparle: try   shift+pageup
[09:57] <srikanthlogic> after connecting to my VPN server, i get an additional interface with the IP assigned by my VPN server, but how do i make this connection default and connect to machines on my VPN
[09:58] <bugg> apparle: if you can't scroll up to the top of the log, the log in it's entirely is likely greater than the console's line buffer... use 'less' rather than cat if you want to freely scroll through a log
[09:58] <apparle> moetunes: that also works when in recovery mode..... when I not using terminal ... but jut console login
[09:58] <apparle> bugg: alright...
[09:59] <apparle> moetunes: ?
[09:59] <moetunes> apparle: yes
[10:00] <apparle> bugg: that was what I was looking for exactlly... thaks
[10:00] <bugg> apparle: no problem :)
[10:02] <Akpsp> hello everyone
[10:02] <Sioux-33> hi everyone
[10:02] <apparle> moetunes: your suggestion also... does my job... thanks..
[10:02] <moetunes> np
[10:03] <Akpsp> Who in here is experienced with xubuntu?
[10:03] <daliang1> hello
[10:03] <Akpsp> Hello
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> jello
[10:04] <ariefbayu> hi guys
[10:04] <ariefbayu> greeting from Indonesia
[10:04] <harrypotter> hello
[10:04] <hizoka_dw> hi... from chile
[10:04] <ariefbayu> I currently running on LL beta 1
[10:05] <bazhang> ariefbayu, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[10:05] <Akpsp> Can someone help me install Wine?
[10:05] <ariefbayu> I have a little problem, but can't find the exact package
[10:05] <bazhang> Akpsp, from the repos
[10:05] <bazhang> ariefbayu, /join #ubuntu+1
[10:05] <ariefbayu> ah, ok
[10:05] <Akpsp> Sorry im new to linux bazhang.
[10:06] <bazhang> Akpsp, sudo apt-get install wine   from the terminal
[10:07] <Akpsp> alright thanks bazhang
[10:07] <difedepe> hi, can anyone help me for slow firefox connection?
[10:08] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: other browsers are faster?
[10:09] <difedepe> I wanna install opera but I don't know how to do. I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[10:09] <difedepe> brontosaurusrex, I wanna install opera but I don't know how to do. I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[10:10] <arand> I find myself apt-getting build-deps, copying the "will be installed" output from apt (and sedding it to get a nice pasteable package list) to be able to remove these again when the build is completed, is there a better way to do this?
[10:10] <boukyaku> Applications->Ubuntu Software Center
[10:10] <difedepe> brontosaurusrex: have I to add any repository?
[10:10] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: use that software manager thingy, or 'sudo apt-get install opera'
[10:10] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: i think its in the main repos, opera
[10:11] <mtduv> why opera :-P
[10:11] <saxlap> difedepe: Type; about:config  , then type dns. Dobbel-click the network.dns.disable. IPv6 and restart firefox :)
[10:11] <Dvorak_AJS> hey, small question here. I tried going to the virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+f1 but I'm not able to login there... Tried checking if numpad was on but that's not the problem...
[10:11] <difedepe> brontosaurusrex: I don't think... I tried to do as you tell me but I am not able to do it
[10:12] <saxlap> difedepe: Type; about:config  , then type dns. Dobbel-click the network.dns.disable. IPv6 and restart firefox :)
[10:13] <difedepe> saxlap: already done but has no effect
[10:13] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: dunno, works here, but this machine is mint8
[10:13] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: anyway, maybe better to install chromium
[10:14] <^b0ss^> hey all
[10:14] <^b0ss^> anyone alive
[10:14] <HowDoI> sup ^b0ss^
[10:14] <difedepe> brontosaurusrex: google chrome? It's not good, I disinstalled it
[10:14] <boukyaku> or maybe the internet connection is just slow
[10:14] <Sioux-33> hi anyone know how to reset gnome setting?
[10:14] <^b0ss^> looking for a little tech support
[10:14] <^b0ss^> for ubuntu
[10:14] <^b0ss^> if thats ok
[10:14] <Sioux-33> no
[10:15] <HowDoI> It's best if you just state your question
[10:15] <boukyaku> a browser is never slow, usually the computer or connection is
[10:15] <brontosaurusrex> difedepe: chroium is the base for chrome, just without the google logo and possibly sniffing part
[10:15] <^b0ss^> hey fellas i only just installed ubuntu
[10:15] <^b0ss^> and trying to get use to it
[10:15] <knoppies> boukyaku, open up more than 20 tabs in firefox (while they loading) and then tell me that.
[10:15] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: firefox is slow on my machine
 so get used to it
[10:15] <^b0ss^> was helping someone could help me with a thunderbird prob
[10:16] <srikanthlogic> Can someone help me with connecting to a Juniper VPN
[10:16] <HowDoI> Again ^b0ss^, maybe just state your problem or question and we'll see if we can help
[10:16] <neoraj> hi any help what is samba share
[10:16] <boukyaku> it would depend what's IN those tabs...
[10:16] <^b0ss^> want to be able to import things from my outloook to thunderbird ...having no luck
[10:16] <^b0ss^> ?
[10:17] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex, what's your machine?
[10:17] <^b0ss^> howdoi?
[10:17] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: this one is an older dual-core opteron, 1gig of ram only
[10:17] <^b0ss^> so i got my outlook export ....but cant load it in thunderbird ..i was told this is a easy thing to do
[10:18] <^b0ss^> i dont seem to be able to do it
[10:18] <Mylove`> do you speak french ... ?
[10:19] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex, what's your GPU?
[10:19] <kamanashisroy> man listen not found !
[10:19] <kamanashisroy> man bind not found !
[10:19] <kamanashisroy> man 7 socket works !
[10:19] <^b0ss^> can anyone help
[10:19] <HowDoI> ^b0ss^,  the way I'm seeing from a GOOGLE SEARCH is to install Thunderbird on your Windows machine or partition, and then import your emails into Thunderbird on your Windows machine or partition
[10:19] <^b0ss^> or am i wasting time here
[10:19] <Akpsp> Hey guys, how will i know when i get a virus?
[10:20] <HowDoI> From there you can simply copy the files to your Ubuntu partition or computer
[10:20] <ori> PLease help With Bluetooth. I Installed (i think) eveerything i need for bluetooth to work, have both bluetooth and bluetooth manager starting at login, and when i go to bluetooth manager, i get the following error: Connection to BlueZ failed. Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue.
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> Akpsp:  when you are using windows... and see it act funny
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> !av | Akpsp
[10:20] <Paddy_NI> !virus | Akpsp
[10:20] <Paddy_NI> err
[10:20] <kamanashisroy> which package contains listen and bind manual ??
[10:21] <znik> howcan i completely remove a software i had installed using *.bin ??
[10:21] <moetunes> kamanashisroy: it's the samew here - not all apps have a man page
[10:21] <neoraj> hi any one help me how to remove software sin ubuntu
[10:21] <znik> the installedfile is not there in the add/remove program!!
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> znik:  .bin could go anywhere
[10:21] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: up there
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> znik:  thas why its best to use the package manager and repos. not .bin type installers
[10:22] <FlintWestWood> morning, i just test drove xubuntu 9.10 to see what xfce was like. I really liked the way it looked and worked so i went ahead and installed the XFCE packages in synaptic so i can choose which desktop i wanted to work in.
[10:22] <ori> Is Lucid Lynx out??
[10:22] <znik> Dr_Willis: is it possible that if i use my previous kernel it wouldn't be ther ?
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> znik:  what does a kernel version have to do with installed software?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> znik:  that dosent make much sence.
[10:23] <FlintWestWood> The problem im having is that the xfce i installed from synaptic looks like crap. I want to set it tp to look like Xubuntu 9.10 but i dont knwo what style/ font combo i am supposed to use.
[10:23] <Harrison_Bergero> please help me.  I have no desktop, only command line terminal.  I dont know what happened
[10:23] <neoraj> how to remove program in ubuntu
[10:23] <Harrison_Bergero> somehow i cd ls into a directory and found xchat by accident
[10:23] <^b0ss^> HOWDO I i already have the files saved to disk
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> neoraj:  depends on how you installed it.   use the package manager tools for most of them
[10:23] <^b0ss^> i just want to import them
[10:23] <^b0ss^> can i do that.?
[10:24] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex: is the GPU integrated then? Correct drivers installed? Without the correct drivers, yeah it's going to be slow.
[10:24] <^b0ss^> there is a WAB formatt
[10:24] <HowDoI> ^b0ss^, did you get the files into Thunderbird using Windows?
[10:24] <^b0ss^> format
[10:24] <Harrison_Bergero> what is the command line to start the desktop?
[10:24] <^b0ss^> no i had xp
[10:24] <^b0ss^> with outlook
[10:24] <znik> Dr_Willis:ok. so, what should i do ?? :)
[10:24] <^b0ss^> exported the files ..
[10:24] <ghufran> hmw, moetunes: im on 9.1 64-bit. what do i look for in X log?
[10:24] <HowDoI> Did you read what I typed to you earlier about installing Thunderbird on your Windows machine?
[10:24] <^b0ss^> now trying to get them into thunderbird
[10:24] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: i think, since i can run compiz effects well, what has firefox to do with that?
[10:24] <^b0ss^> i dont have a windows machine now
[10:24] <Harrison_Bergero> I feel like a complete novice with terminal
[10:24] <^b0ss^> im just using ubuntu
[10:24] <hizoka_dw> i can't join the @nihongo channel... somebody help me?
[10:25] <Harrison_Bergero> i NEED my mouse!
[10:25] <Harrison_Bergero> ok...maybe need is too strong
[10:25] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, want me to google it for you?
[10:25] <HowDoI> ^b0ss^, are you saying that you exported your emails using Outlook, then got rid of your Windows machine?
[10:25] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex: firefox is mainly 2D graphic :p
[10:25] <Harrison_Bergero> knoppies...i would google it myself if you get me to the command line that starts firefox
[10:25] <moetunes> ghufran: can you paste it?
[10:25] <^b0ss^> yes
[10:25] <^b0ss^> thats right m8
[10:25] <moetunes> !paste | ghufran
[10:26] <ghufran> moetunes: its 3000+ lines
[10:26] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, I think its firefox, but I assume you need an X11 session running.
[10:26] <FlintWestWood> Harrison_Bergero: try startx
[10:26] <^b0ss^> i can get to a windows machine though
[10:26] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, we talking KDE or Gnome?
[10:26] <hmw> ghufran: i am not so good with X either. I'd look for WW (warnings) and EE (errors) first. Perhaps you will find nothing. Try to understand the log output and find unusual things or hints. Perhaps you X system itself is not the culprit, but some of the child processes. Could even be some nice Panel applet or whatever. YOu can post your Xorg.0.log to a pastebin, so that we can have a look at it too. But I can't promise too much
[10:26] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: no, i think my bottleneck is something to do with net traffic and slow hds, but have no idea on how fix that
[10:26] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  that would be the command 'firefox' to start firefox..
[10:26] <Harrison_Bergero> knoppies...im assuming gnome.  Standard ubuntu install
[10:27] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: 'startx' or 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start'
[10:27] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, then gnome. FlintWestWood suggested startx and thats the result I got on the opensuse forum (dont ask, it was the first google hit)
[10:27] <Harrison_Bergero> It seems that the terminal is busy with xchat.  Ill have to close this program to try "firefox"
[10:27] <Harrison_Bergero> brb
[10:27] <HowDoI> ^b0ss^, the only think I know how to do is copy the files you got from the export from Outlook back onto a Windows machine
[10:27] <neoraj> wht is samba share
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  no you dont..
[10:27] <FlintWestWood> did he switch x sessions?
[10:27] <knoppies> Harrison_Bergero, alt-ctrl-Fn where n is a number
[10:27] <knoppies> FlintWestWood, dont think so.
[10:27] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...how do i get another terminal open?
[10:27] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  you re in X? or on the console?
[10:28] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex, ahh i see, when you say "slow", I don't know if you mean internet connection or graphics, like scrolling up and down a page with flash makes FPS 5
[10:28] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, I think console, he is asking how to start x.
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> how is he runnint Xchat on the console?
[10:28] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: it gets slow wihout cpu hitting 5%
[10:28] <knoppies> Dr_Willis, not sure.
  http://samba.org/
[10:28] <Symmetria> man reasons why ext3 fs SUCKS, I told it to rm -rf a 4.9 terabyte directory structure 2 and a half hours ago
[10:28] <Symmetria> and its still going
[10:28] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_WIllis....um...Ubuntu starts normally but before the desktop initializes i just sits for a bout 5 minutes and I have this terminal open in the upper left corner
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  try alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 for extra login console shells.. and try the 'startx' command
[10:29] <dentoo> hI all can someone help me with a small PHP problem?
[10:29] <Harrison_Bergero> background is all black and xchat is not movable using mouse
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  you are in X then.
[10:29] <hmw> dentoo: ask in #php
[10:29] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: however running lynx as virtual engine on my quad-core mac, firefox is light as some notepad there
[10:29] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...i guess my description was helpful then?
[10:29] <FlintWestWood> close enough
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  you proberly want to try the command  'gnome-session' in that terminal
[10:29] <Harrison_Bergero> i typed startx in the terminal, nothing happened
[10:30] <moetunes> ghufran: you can paste that size file at   http://paste.ubuntu.com   lots do
[10:30] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: do you get a normal login screen, and can you move your mouse around in that?
[10:30] <Harrison_Bergero> cursor is frozen
[10:30] <dentoo> hmw: yea I just joined #php, thanx
[10:30] <Harrison_Bergero> bugg...no
[10:30] <FlintWestWood> yeah, looks like you are already in x.. just looks like your gnome session might have gone bonkers
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> X is allreayd started. You need to run a proper windowmanager/desktop then Harrison_Bergero  -  odd that the mouse is not moveing
[10:30] <hmw> Harrison_Bergero: you said, the terminal is in the top left corner? that seems, as if you already started X
[10:30] <Harrison_Bergero> but when I "exit" in the terminal it does give me some "new" login screen ive never seen before
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> gnome-failure is a reason i always keep icewm installed. :)
[10:30] <FlintWestWood> xfce here
[10:30] <ghufran> moetunes: yea, im on it.. the system is giving me hell though.. in context switching and all
[10:31] <moetunes> k
[10:31] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...i have a mouse, I just cant move the xchat application with it
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  sounds like gdm is restarting or somthing like that after you Exit X
[10:31] <Harrison_Bergero> its overlapping my terminal
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  thats because theres no window manager running.
[10:31] <FlintWestWood> Harrison_Bergero: what exactly happened? did you run a sys update or something?
[10:31] <fastijum> does anyone know if compiz guys keep a changelog? I can’t find anything like that
[10:31] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  use the command 'metacity &' to start one
[10:31] <boukyaku> brontosaurusrex, different machine, so not surprising.
[10:31] <Harrison_Bergero> honestly i dont know what ahppened
[10:32] <bugg> I'd suggest you 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and hopefully that would install the right utilities to fix your system
[10:32] <FlintWestWood> what was the last change you did to youre comp?
[10:32] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: ^^
[10:32] <brontosaurusrex> boukyaku: i think ill live with chromium on this one for a while, shame there is no firebug extension thought
[10:32] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis....its taking about the same time like "startx"...cursor is frozen in terminal
[10:32] <neoraj> is tat possible to find ip of my netwrk
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  cursor is frozen is NOT The same as 'you can move the mouse but cant move windows due to there being no title bar'
[10:33] <Harrison_Bergero> no change...just last time i shut down I had to use the power button
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  use alt-ctrl-sysreq-k to  restart.. not the power btton
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> power button can make things worse
[10:33] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis....right.  I was saying that the mouse cant move or resize the xchat window.  and that window is partially overlapping my terminal window
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  thats because yu dont have a window manager going.
[10:34] <TRiBLy> i've got a weird mouse problem. i plugged it out when my comp was running, then turned the comp off, turned it on again, but the mouse wasn't plugged in. i logged in, plugged the mouse in, and now my middle mouse button isnt working anymore. has anyone an idea how to fix this?
[10:34] <ghufran> moetunes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/408990/
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> I would restart to gdm/try logging in again. and at the terminal FIRST command to run will be 'metacity &'
[10:34] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...how do I tab through the windows then?
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  I would restart to gdm/try logging in again. and at the terminal FIRST command to run will be 'metacity &'
[10:34] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...ill try it.  brb
[10:34] <mtduv> where are some cool places to learn how to take the full usage of shell? :-P
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> !terminal | mtduv
[10:35] <FlintWestWood> disregard my question.. i love having two identical netbooks
[10:36] <bugg> TriBLy: try running 'xmodmap' at a terminal, should reset your middle mouse functionality...
[10:36] <neoraj> what is metacity
[10:36] <mtduv> awesome guys thanks for the responses :)
[10:36] <ghufran> by the way.. anyone tried 10.04 yet?
[10:36] <bugg> ghufran: I'm running 10.04 atm
[10:36] <ghufran> bugg: any major changes?
[10:36] <neoraj> ghufran: no have u tried
[10:37] <moetunes> ghufran: (EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0) - doesn't look promising
[10:37] <ghufran> bugg: buggy too much?
[10:37] <HowDoI> ghufran, major changes have been made to the default "look and feel" of Ubuntu 10.04
[10:37] <bugg> ghufran: It's not too bad after upgrading packages - I was having lvm issues for a bit but that's been fixed
[10:37] <conb123> Hiya I just tried to make a bootable usb stick with dd, however now it will not mount, how can I make it mount again? I tried mount -t vfat xxx xxx, but it did not work
[10:37] <neoraj> Bugg: what is the difference B/w ubuntu 9.10 n 10.04
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> conb123:  what did you do exatly to make a bootable usb stick?
[10:38] <ghufran> moetunes: i have no idea what that module is for ..
[10:38] <bugg> neoraj: I didn't use 9.10, but from what I know it seems to be a lot more stable...
[10:38] <boukyaku> HowDoI, certain Ubuntu 10.04 GUI changes are undesirable... -_-
[10:38] <FlintWestWood> brb
[10:38] <conb123> Dr_Willis: Well I did dd if=xxx.img of=/dev/sdb1
[10:39] <brontosaurusrex> HowDoI: do you have a list? (i did notice gnome panels behave a bit better)
[10:39] <conb123> Dr_Willis: It did not work however
[10:39] <neoraj> Bugg:then what were u using previously
[10:39] <ghufran> neoraj: no i havent tried.. im on 9.1 .. im thinking of whether i should take the risk or not .. setting up my system takes up some time
[10:39] <aegeaner> hi, everyone!
[10:39] <fastijum> ghufran: that would be a driver for the intel i810 integrated graphics card
[10:39] <bugg> neoraj: and as has been said in this channel, there are some GUI changes in 10.04... some which are unliked, such as the moving of the close/minimoze/maximize buttons to the other side of the screen
[10:39] <HowDoI> brontosaurusrex, I don't have a list, but you can try it out for yourself by running the 10.04 beta and filing bug reports for anything you find
[10:39] <brontosaurusrex> HowDoI: i did a quick install yesterday
[10:39] <aegeaner> how to upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10 safely?
[10:39] <bugg> neoraj: I think I've jumped between 7.04, 8.10 and debian 5 a bit
[10:40] <Harrison_Bergero> ok...thanks for the metacity tip....i can move apps now
[10:40] <h32Lg> hi
[10:40] <sziszi> aegeaner, you mean downgrade?
[10:40] <aegeaner> i just destroyed my system
[10:40] <Harrison_Bergero> but terminal will only allow one program to execute at a time
[10:40] <ghufran> fastijum, moetunes: any suggestions?
[10:40] <h32Lg> how can i convert a .swf to mp3 or maybe mp4?
[10:40] <HowDoI> aegeaner, it is best to upgrade to 10.04 once the final release is ready.  Then you can upgrade through the standard upgrade GUI
[10:40] <moetunes> ghufran: what does   psaux | grep X   return ?
[10:40] <aegeaner> oh, i see
[10:40] <brontosaurusrex> bugg: clicking the theme window once or twice and you get those to the right side again
[10:40] <neoraj> how to remove programs thrugh terminal
[10:41] <bugg> sziszi: you're reading the to/from the wrong way :)
[10:41] <fastijum> ghufran: what video card do you have?
[10:41] <Harrison_Bergero> how do i open multiple terminals?
[10:41] <moetunes> ghufran: looks like it might have started a few X perhaps - how I don't know
[10:41] <neoraj> ghufran: how to remove programs through terminal
[10:41] <bugg> brontosaurusrex: already fixed via gconf-editor :)
[10:41] <fastijum> Harrison_Bergero: Ctrl+Shift+T ?
[10:41] <ae86-drifter> hi there, i just upgraded my kernel from v2.6.26 to v 2.6.33 and whenever i choose the new kernel i get an error cryptsetup device not found /dev/hda2 but the old kernel boots up fine
[10:41] <Harrison_Bergero> I'd like to get xchat and firefox up at the same time
[10:41] <HowDoI> neoraj, "sudo apt-get remove PACKAGE"
[10:41] <ghufran> moetunes: root      1272  5.4 47.3 6382816 1902836 tty7  Rs+  Apr02 147:38 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-6MUYS6/database -nolisten tcp vt7
[10:41] <conb123> Dr_Willis: I think dd has broken it somehow, dmesg | tail gives more info but I don't know what to do with it, would you like that?
[10:41] <sziszi> bugg, sorry, You are right
[10:42] <ghufran> fastijum: intel integrated
[10:42] <brontosaurusrex> Harrison_Bergero: you'd start the app like 'firefox &'
[10:42] <brontosaurusrex> no need for two terminals
[10:42] <ghufran> neoraj: kill <process id> ?
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> conb123:  you dd to /dev/sdb  not /dev/sdb1
[10:42] <bugg> neoraj: kill or remove?
[10:42] <Harrison_Bergero> brontosaurusrex...yeah, under normal circumstances, but this is different
[10:42] <brontosaurusrex> bugg: i think its theme related? irc i just selected the newwave theme
[10:42] <Harrison_Bergero> i have to close xchat to open firefox
[10:42] <ghufran> neoraj: or do u mean uninstall programs. in that case apt-get uninstall <program name>
[10:42] <neoraj> HowDoI: if i want to remove particular program..
[10:43] <Harrison_Bergero> it seems terminal is busy while an app is open
[10:43] <conb123> Dr_Willis: Ah, whoops that's where I went wrong, thanks, shall I just run the same command again with sdb?
[10:43] <moetunes> ghufran: can you logout - hit ctrl+alt+backspace and login again - it will restart X and you can compare Xorg.0.log with the current which will move to Xorg.1.log
[10:43] <neoraj> ghufran: what will be process id
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  use the & after commands.
[10:43] <Harrison_Bergero> fastijum....that did not open a second terminal
[10:43] <neoraj> ghufran: ya uninstall through terminal
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  and/or use 'ctrl-z then 'bg' command' to free up the terminal
[10:44] <fastijum> Harrison_Bergero: I guess I made too many assumptions
[10:44] <bugg> brontosaurusrex: yea, I think you're right, but you can change it in gconf-editor by going to apps-metacity-general and changing the button_layout field
[10:44] <brontosaurusrex> bugg: ic
[10:44] <ghufran> neoraj: you can find that out by writing "ps -ef | grep skype" the listing will give u all processes matching the name 'skype' with their process ids
[10:44] <fastijum> does anyone know if compiz guys keep a changelog? I can’t find anything like that
[10:45] <ghufran> neoraj: for uninstall use apt-get remove
[10:45] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis....ctrl-z stopped xchat
[10:45] <mirek> tapir
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  and i said use 'bg' command also.... that will restart it
[10:46] <neoraj> what is bg command
[10:46] <Harrison_Bergero> cool
[10:46] <Akpsp> hey guys. how do i install a game with multiple cd with wine?
[10:46] <Harrison_Bergero> that worked
[10:46] <Akpsp> cd's*
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> neoraj:  bash job controll basics.. 'back ground' a stopped job
[10:46] <bazhang> Akpsp, ask in #winehq ?
[10:46] <ori> PLease help With Bluetooth. I Installed (i think) eveerything i need for bluetooth to work, have both bluetooth and bluetooth manager starting at login, and when i go to bluetooth manager, i get the following error: Connection to BlueZ failed. Bluez daemon is not running, blueman-manager cannot continue.
[10:47] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_wills...where is the desktop program located?
[10:47] <junmin> hello all, how can i view the configuration options a deb package is built with? please
[10:47] <jakob1> where do i report problems/bugs with 10.04?
[10:47] <KayAteChef> fahadsadah: I am having trouble again
[10:47] <jakob1> ssh-agent (or whatever gnome-replacement there is) doesn't work
[10:47] <bazhang> jakob1, lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[10:47] <Harrison_Bergero> Ugh...i just minimized firefox out of view...how do i get it back?
[10:48] <KayAteChef> alt tab?
[10:48] <Harrison_Bergero> geeze this is like flying blind
[10:48] <jakob1> bazhang: thanks
[10:49] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: Have you tried "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' to try and install the right packages to get yourself a fully-working desktop?
[10:49] <dimitris> hello all
[10:49] <Harrison_Bergero> bugg...yesterday this was a fully working desktop.  But Ill try anything at this point
[10:49] <dimitris> I have two serious problems
[10:49] <KayAteChef> fahadsadah: it is ok I just did ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[10:49] <KayAteChef> :)
[10:49] <dimitris> I am very new in Ubuntu
[10:49] <KayAteChef> and it is working again
[10:49] <KayAteChef> yay
[10:50] <KayAteChef> I know what it was... it was the dhcp setting
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Harrison_Bergero:  you are using 9.10 and not the beta 10.04 are you?
[10:50] <Harrison_Bergero> 9.10
[10:51] <Harrison_Bergero> been working fine for almost a year
[10:51] <Kre10s> is there a command line tool for playing music? .ogg in this case
[10:51] <Harrison_Bergero> well i started with 9.04 and upgraded....should i have done a clean install instead?
[10:51] <ghufran_> heres the new X log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/408994/ moetunes
[10:51] <HowDoI> Harrison_Bergero, that isn't possible, considering Ubuntu 9.10 has only been around for 6 months
[10:51] <wolter> Kre look for xmms
[10:51] <wolter> Kre10s, ^
[10:52] <moetunes> ghufran_: it's only 1200 lines - should be better
[10:52] <ghufran_> yes its better
[10:52] <Harrison_Bergero> HowDoI thanks.  I meant I was on ubuntu for a year, STARTED with 9.04
[10:52] <neoraj> how to find my ip address through terminal
[10:52] <hatake_kakashi> neoraj, ifconfig
[10:53] <Harrison_Bergero> id have to dig out the cd to see the original install version.  I updated regularly
[10:53] <ghufran_> moetunes: its ok when it starts off .. but then slows down after some time .. specially when i use it after some idle time ..
[10:53] <ghufran_> neoraj: ifconfig
[10:53] <unimatrix> Is the Ubuntu logo supposed to blink during boot process or does that only happen with the live CD/DVD ?
[10:53] <moetunes> ghufran_: does it suspend or hibernate?
[10:53] <Harrison_Bergero> reinstalling desktop
[10:54] <Harrison_Bergero> hope this works
[10:54] <wolter> ghufran_, do you know how to get the internet ip?
[10:54] <wolter> like, not the local one
[10:54] <ghufran_> moetunes: no it doesnt hibernate.. not so sure about suspend .. i think ive set it to not do anything .. it just shuts down screen
[10:54] <Harrison_Bergero> ok...done
[10:54] <Dr_Willis_> wolter:  try the whatismyip.com site
[10:54] <Harrison_Bergero> what is the command line to start it?
[10:54] <ghufran_> wolter: just use one of many online services
[10:54] <neoraj> ghufran_: thanks
[10:54] <mcurrington> wolter: I usually just hit "w" on a remote server and it tells me where I'm signed in from.
[10:54] <Someguy77> how do I start a program with a delay on it?
[10:54] <neoraj> hatake_kakashi: tahnks
[10:54] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: were many packages installed?
[10:54] <Dr_Willis_> Harrison_Bergero:  try 'gnome-session' to start  the full gnome desktop
[10:54] <wolter> Dr_Willis_, oh yeah, but there is no command for that then?
[10:55] <Dr_Willis_> wolter:  there are scripts out that doit.
[10:55] <Dr_Willis_> wolter:  but they are not int he repos
[10:55] <neoraj> how to check the configuration of mt lap top through terminal
[10:55] <Harrison_Bergero> HALLELUJAH
[10:55] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_WIllis, et. al. thank you so much
[10:55] <Dr_Willis_> Harrison_Bergero:  i mentioned gnome-session earlier..did you try it earloier?
[10:55] <moetunes> ghufran_: if you let it go idle again and start the screen again check to see if the log is bigger
[10:55] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis, yes
[10:55] <Dr_Willis_> Harrison_Bergero:  or did you try it only just now?
[10:56] <Kre10s> wolter: I went with ogg123, xmms seems overkill. at least for what im trying to do.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis_> Harrison_Bergero:  so it dident work earlier - but it does now?
[10:56] <wolter> Kre10s, good then
[10:56] <Harrison_Bergero> Dr_Willis...right
[10:56] <neoraj>  how to check the configuration of my lap top through terminal
[10:56] <wolter> !tab | Harrison_Bergero
[10:56] <moetunes> neoraj: which config?
[10:56] <Harrison_Bergero> something must have been corrupted if the install fixed it
[10:57] <FlintWestWood> back
[10:57] <ghufran_> moetunes: i just checked .. it is set to suspend only when the lid is closed .. and i never do that
[10:57] <brontosaurusrex> Kre10s: there is moc player
[10:57] <Harrison_Bergero> wo! test
[10:57] <neoraj> moetunes:like my laptop config ex
[10:57] <FlintWestWood> Harrison_Bergero: Hows it going?
[10:57] <ne7work> !flash
[10:57] <brontosaurusrex> Kre10s: http://moc.daper.net/
[10:57] <Harrison_Bergero> its working!
[10:57] <Harrison_Bergero> wolter, thanks for the tip
[10:57] <moetunes> ghufran_: fine - it is not something I've seenbefore - X using so much memory
[10:57] <FlintWestWood> cool!
[10:58] <alejandro> hol
[10:58] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero: congrats on getting your desktop back :)
[10:58] <neoraj> moetunes:hard disk size and its made etc
[10:58] <Harrison_Bergero> going to do a cold boot to see if this is fixed
[10:58] <boukyaku> neoraj, type lspci in terminal
[10:58] <wolter> np Ha
[10:58] <wolter> Harrison_Bergero,
[10:59] <Harrison_Bergero> bugg...thanks.  You dont know what a panic i was getting into
[10:59] <ghufran_> moetunes, right now its not. my total memory usage is at 25% .. and X is nowhere in htop
[10:59] <moetunes> neoraj: df -h will tell about the size of the partitions
[10:59] <Harrison_Bergero> brb
[10:59] <alejandro> no puedo realizar vidgien me puede ayudareo llamadas al
[10:59] <moetunes> neoraj: try   sudo lshw
[11:00] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone does anyone know of any good catalog software for ubuntu? I want to setup a cron job so that it will take a snapshot of all the files/folders that are in my home directory at certain times and then send the file to dropbox. If anyone has any suggestions that would be great! Thanks
[11:00] <neoraj> boukyaku: its not giving full details
[11:00] <blakkheim> fuzzybunny69y: rsync
[11:01] <bugg> fuzzybunny69y, i second the mention of rsync
[11:01] <fuzzybunny69y> blakkheim, can rsync just catalog files I don't actually want to back anything up
[11:02] <bugg> fuzzybunny69y, what file are you wanting to send to your dropbox?
[11:02] <boukyaku> neoraj, details of what?
[11:02] <ae86-drifter> xen tutorial
[11:02] <fuzzybunny69y> bugg, I am hoping I can make a text file listing say all the files in my home directory and then transfer the text file to dropbox
[11:02] <neoraj> boukyaku: i got it man thanks
[11:03] <FlintWestWood> brb
[11:03] <bugg> fuzzybunny69y, you just want a nice list?
[11:03] <neoraj> boukyaku: but what is the meaning of lshw
[11:03] <Jester86> hey guys can any of you help me out
[11:03] <Jester86> let me give you some background
[11:04] <hatake_kakashi> neoraj, lists hardware
[11:04] <bugg> fuzzybunny69y, if you just want a list of directories and their contents try the 'tree' tool - you may need to install it from apt first
[11:04] <fuzzybunny69y> oh nice
[11:04] <fuzzybunny69y> ok ill have a look
[11:04] <boukyaku> neoraj, type "man lshw" in terminal
[11:04] <brontosaurusrex> fuzzybunny69y: try #bash, read the docs, dont use 'ls' in your scripting <- random thoughts
[11:04] <Jester86> I'm trying to get my computer to automatically connect to my sshfs back at home all via gui.. I want to click 1 button, have a gui pop up that explains what I'm about to do and prompt for a password
[11:05] <Jester86> then it needs to pass that pw to sshfs and proceed w/ mounting
[11:05] <brontosaurusrex> Jester86: gnome/nautilus can do that i thinl
[11:05] <brontosaurusrex> think*
[11:05] <Jester86> I've got it all working via txt base no prob
[11:05] <devdz> what i type in shell to see how much the memory is used ... ?
[11:05] <Jester86> well see I'm trying to get it setup for a not so good user so they can connect to my server at my house
[11:06] <Jester86> i'm looking at using zenity
[11:06] <caolanm> I'm trying to update a home server running the lucid beta, but it hangs on "king kbd (from .../kbd_1.15-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb) ..."
[11:06] <rm200910> Jester86: sounds like a job for zenity... http://freshmeat.net/projects/zenity. NO experience though
[11:06] <molqr> hello all
[11:06] <caolanm> ooops, ignore that
[11:06] <moetunes> devdz: free   is the command
[11:06] <caolanm> I'm trying to update a home server running the lucid beta, but it hangs on "Setting up console-setup (1.34ubuntu13)"
[11:07] <Jester86> I wrote a thing up for zenity and it works great for passing the --entry for the sudo password but its not seeming to pass sshfs's password
[11:07] <guntbert> !enter | Jester86
[11:07] <molqr> what is the ``Search for files" app in hardy heron is called? i would like to launch it from the command line ...
[11:07] <wolter> Jester86, maybe if sshs's password is entered like in sudo, then I don't think its going to be possible. Do you know any python
[11:07] <wolter> ?
[11:07] <bazhang> caolanm, #ubuntu+1 please
[11:07] <ne7work> How to install KDE on Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
[11:07] <fuzzybunny69y> wow guys thank
[11:08] <caolanm> bazhang: thanks
[11:08] <Dr_Willis_> ne7work:  install kubuntu-desktop packlage
[11:08] <Jester86> no I don't know python but I was looking at some code for it
[11:08] <wolter> molqr, gnome-search-tool
[11:08] <fuzzybunny69y> bogg, wow that is great thanks a lot
[11:08] <bazhang> ne7work, install the package kubuntu-desktop
[11:08] <wolter> or is it?
[11:08] <Jester86> I'd like to stick to bash if possible..
[11:08] <molqr> wolter, many thanks :)
[11:08] <Idlehead> ne7work, search for kubuntu in synaptic
[11:08] <fuzzybunny69y> thanks guys i love you all
[11:08] <hmw> On my Aspire One Netbook (1.6 GHz, 500 MB RAM) with Jaunty, the Gnome menu takes 20 seconds to display, when I click it the first time. I already tried gtk-update-icon-cache -f /home/myname/myiconsets/myiconset with no improvement. Any ideas, why this takes so long?
[11:08] <wolter> np
[11:08] <ori> DOes anyone know why smokin guns freezes upon exiting?
[11:08] <ne7work> and install kubuntu-desktop package?
[11:08] <Jester86> Is there a way to pass the password to sshfs in the sshfs declaration/initiation statement?
[11:08] <bazhang> ori, what does that mean
[11:08] <bugg> fuzzybunny69y, np
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> Jester86:  you can set up ssh for a passwordless login with the ssh-copy-ident command  as a work around
[11:09] <Dr_Willis_> Jester86:  or check the sshfs docs there may be other ways
[11:09] <ori> bazhang: i exit the game, get the credits, then click/esc, and then it freezes. on the cedits
 http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic/5460/gui-for-sshfs/
[11:10] <bazhang> ori, windows game via wine?
[11:10] <Jester86> thanks wolter its still not exactly what I want tho .. :-\
[11:10] <neoraj> what is ssh
[11:10] <bazhang> !ssh > neoraj
[11:10] <neoraj> how to find hard disk size thrugh terminal
[11:10] <wolter> Jester86, ah yes... I imagined.... after seeing the image
[11:11] <Jester86> wolter, thanks tho...may look into that for my home use
[11:11] <iceroot> neoraj: sudo fdisk -l or df -h
[11:11] <wathek> hello all
[11:11] <brontosaurusrex> neoraj: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell
[11:11] <raj-darkmystery> neoraj: use df -h
[11:11] <wolter> Jester86, if I found the API and it looks simple enough to make, I could make it for you
[11:11] <Jester86> I'm just trying to set up a few remote pc's that I won't be able to walk people thru how to use
[11:11] <wathek> how can I play the apple videos ?http://www.apple.com/fr/imac/#video in chrome it says I need quicktime and same thing with firefox
[11:12] <bazhang> wathek, you need to wget them
[11:12] <Daniel_Xubuntu> Hey xD
[11:12] <wathek> ah !
[11:12] <Jester86> wolter, I've got a pretty good idea of what I want and how to do it.. I just can't seem to get the password to pass from zenity's --entry to sshfs
[11:12] <wathek> bazhang, ok gonna try that
[11:12] <wolter> Jester86, but zenity alone can return it?
[11:12] <ori> bazhang: oh sorry. no
[11:13] <ori> bazhang: its smokin gunz for karmic
[11:13] <brontosaurusrex> wathek: what i do is: browse source, find the link, use wget, play localy with mplayer or vlc, some distros, the other option is to install the proper plugin player, dunno which one is that
[11:13] <Jester86> wolter, I've got my password into a variable but I can't seem to get sshfs to accept the variable as a password.. don't know how to pass the password off to sshfs right
[11:13] <bazhang> ori, linux game? installed from where
[11:13] <ori> bazhang: it was installed from playdeb.ne
[11:13] <ori> t
[11:13] <wathek> brontosaurusrex, ok but I've to find the link for it
[11:13] <wathek> :p
[11:13] <bazhang> ori, check their forums?
[11:14] <brontosaurusrex> wathek: some distros, like mint are known to kinda work sometimes with some sort of browser plugin
[11:14] <ori> bazhang: they dont have one
[11:14] <Jester86> wolter, yes I've got zenity reading the password just fine:  var=$(zenity --entry --text "Enter Data"), sets var to your input
[11:14] <bazhang> ori, its not an ubuntu issue
[11:14] <ori> bazhang: someone once told me to disable the screen saver through a shortcut
[11:14] <neoraj> guys any one tell me how to establish connection b/w windows desktop and linux laptop through ssh note: i have a previlage
[11:14] <bazhang> ori, try that or disable compiz perhaps
[11:14] <ravibn> Hi! I am using LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype for using Skype with webcam. After I close SKype the LEDS in my webcam still glows How can I stop this?
[11:15] <ori> bazhang: how do i do either?
[11:15] <neoraj> what is compiz
[11:15] <bazhang> !compiz > neoraj
[11:15] <Jester86> wolter, you can also do: zenity --entry --text "Enter Data" | Sudo -S, .. this will pass zenity's entry straight to sudo and the sudo -S essentially makes it silent
[11:15] <ori> !compiz > ori
[11:15] <aaaa> aaa
[11:16] <wolter> Jester86, have you tried with '-o password_stdin' option?
[11:16] <Lanlost> aaaaa!
[11:16] <Jester86> wolter, yes I have but I wonder if I used it properly
[11:16] <Lanlost> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!
[11:16] <Jester86> wolter, mind going private w/ me on this
[11:16] <ori> bazhang: do u know the shortcut to disable the screen saver and how to disable compiz?
[11:16] <wolter> lets go, i'm no guru but its ok. Or lets go to #ubuntu-classroom, so it gets registered
[11:16] <bazhang> ori, the package fusion-icon
[11:16] <Lanlost> Why was I kicked?
[11:17] <ravibn>  Hi! I am using LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype for using Skype with webcam. After I close SKype the LEDS in my webcam still glows How can I stop this?
[11:17] <ori> bazhang: sorry i dont understand
[11:17] <Lanlost> aaa said aaaa.. so I said aaaaa and posted that. That was it. Surely not worthy of a kick. But anyway, sorry for...
[11:17] <bazhang> ori, the package name is fusion-ison
[11:18] <hmw> ravibn: that's not how it acts on my computers. check out running processes, perhaps you find something to kill
[11:18] <bazhang> Lanlost, stay on topic. support here chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:18] <lao5> when the ubuntu 8.04 boot up, it prompts "usb 3-2: device not accepting address 2 error 71". Please why and how to fix this?
[11:18] <ori> bazhang: in system moniter?
[11:18] <Harrison_Bergero> its like magic.  Once again thank you all
[11:19] <Harrison_Bergero> and a curious side note...vlc...i could never resize the window, scaling on or off...but now it works!
[11:19] <Lanlost> I know about offtopic. I'm just saying, I've been in here for plenty long to know that one line isn't going to interrupt the normal chat. And if thats the case 'aaa' is just as distractful.
[11:19] <bazhang> ori, no its a package to be installed check in synaptic package manager
[11:19] <Lanlost> And this is wasting time so...  I am using LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype for using Skype with webcam. After I close SKype the LEDS in my webcam still glows How can I stop this?
[11:19] <hmw> ravibn: that's not how it acts on my computers. check out running processes, perhaps you find something to kill
[11:20] <lao5> hmw: thanks! i used to unplug the usb mouse, then there is no such promption. but how to cancel this message without unpluging the mouse?
[11:20] <hmw> ravibn: looks like the webcam driver crashes, before it can disable the cam... can you re-open skype/webcam?
[11:20] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that installs all the default packages for a ubuntu desktop in the current distro. There may have been a package that wound up missing
[11:20] <ravibn> hmw : yes! after I close I can reopen and it works fine
[11:20] <hmw> lao5: first unplug the mouse to see, if it is the cause. Once you know, what USB device is crashing, we can go further
[11:21] <Harrison_Bergero> bugg...its just very cool to have my desktop back
[11:21] <bugg> :)
[11:21] <lao5> hmw: i know the usb mouse causes it.
[11:21] <Harrison_Bergero> I need to learn command line though....i see its very useful in those situations
[11:21] <Harrison_Bergero> any suggestions where I should start learning?...something for beginners
[11:21] <hmw> lao5: type the error message into google's search box. Perhaps you find out more, what this means
[11:22] <igoryonya> is there a built-in command that will convert winDOS line engings to dos, i.e.: \n (\v\r) to \n (\r), or whatever it should be. I used to use UltraEdit, where I didn't have such problem, because it had it's own internal converter, where you could save to whatever format while saving, but I don't have a linux version of UltraEdit and all of my perl, python, and other scripts have WinDOS endings.
[11:22] <hmw> lao5: you could also try another USB port
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> What's selected for install with tasksel for Virtual Machine host?
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> On 9.10?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis_> igoryonya:  thers a dozen ways to do thjat. thers also the dos2unix command I think  in the repos
[11:22] <lao5> hmw: yeah. i googled a lot, but no solution found. the change of ports does not work, either. I am totally dwelled on it.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis_> igoryonya:  theres proberly a dozen little scripts out that can do it as well
[11:23] <brontosaurusrex> also i think geany can do it
[11:23] <raj-darkmystery> exit
[11:23] <raj-darkmystery> exit
[11:23] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero, the best way to start learning, most obviously, is by doing. open a terminal, cd your way through directories, ls to list files, and man <command> to find all the information on a command that you might want
[11:24] <igoryonya> Dr_Willis_: I am sure of dosens, I can write one in perl myself, but, I was wondering, if there is one that's already in a standard distribution of ubuntu, so that I wouldn't have to specially install it, I don't mind, if it's command line based.
[11:24] <bugg> Harrison_Bergero, so you are most likely aware of ls, cd, cat etc - there are most or what you'll need to get started