[04:08] <raven> checking for DBUS... no
[04:08] <raven> configure: error: odccm support requested but D-Bus could not be found
[04:09] <crdlb> JustinNFX: yes, install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:09] <JustinNFX> ynk:  If you mind what tablet are you thinking of buying and how much $$
[04:09] <JustinNFX> I already did crdlb
[04:09] <usser> raven, you'll get lots of it, what you need to do is figure out which packages provide needed dependencies for dbus you need dbus-1-dev
[04:09] <ynk> how do i acquire the "Python OpenGL" support and "Python GTKGLExt" support?
[04:09] <crdlb> JustinNFX: go to system > prefs > compizconfig settings manager, then go to Workarounds and disable Legacy fullscreen support
[04:10] <JustinNFX> Speaking off compfiz how come I can never get the cool CUBE things working it just flips back and forth destops
[04:10] <ynk> JustinNFX, I'm getting the HP tx2000z series. basic price range is 950 bux.
[04:10] <usser> ynk, sudo apt-get install python-gtkglext1
[04:10] <raven> usser now its "hal support" - seems to become a neverending story :|
[04:10] <ynk> usser, thanks buddy.
[04:10] <shade34321> does ubuntu support tablet functionality?
[04:11] <usser> raven, as i said building is a painful process, building something complex is infinitely more painful cause complex software depends on a lot of things
[04:11] <JustinNFX> ynk: yikes only thing I don't like about tablets and handhelds are there price.  But I guess if you have it flawn it :-)
[04:11] <ynk> shade34321, good question.. might be a pain getting drivers for a tablet's touchscreen feature.
[04:11] <usser> raven, sudo apt-get install libhal-dev
[04:11] <crdlb> JustinNFX: also in ccsm, General Options > Desktop Size > Horizontal virtual size = 4
[04:11] <raven> usser ok - i'll keep trying but thanks a lot for the moment already ;)
[04:11] <usser> raven, no problem
[04:12] <ynk> JustinNFX, i thought 950 for a tablet was pretty darn reasonable! LoL, they usually go for much much more.
[04:12] <BlackCoffee> if i install Kubuntu fromn synaptic,how much space will it use?
[04:12] <shade34321> but it is possible though right?
[04:12] <JustinNFX> crdlb:  You think that will fix Korganizers full screen error.  I got that before I installed compfiz.. and is this just a KDE problem?
[04:12] <ShinyHat> can i add encryption to a dual boot system (xp) after it's already been set up?
[04:12] <ashwin> has anyone installed cruise control on intrepid
[04:12] <crdlb> JustinNFX: compiz is enabled by default unless you turn it off
[04:13] <crdlb> JustinNFX: and the standard gnome window manager (metacity) has a similar feature, but it seems a bit more reliable
[04:13] <andika> ShinyHat: what kind of encryption?
[04:14] <JustinNFX> well, i build my own pc and stuff and the most i will put down is 650$  I bought a laptop 2.9ghz intel dual core, 64bit, 4gig memory  and a 250gb hd for only $600
[04:14] <ShinyHat> andika: not sure, new to encrypting but think it's a good idea on a laptop. any suggestions? something that could keep data secure even if someone removed the hdd?
[04:14] <qaxx> wtf - why would my server die wheil installing java?
[04:15] <andika> ShinyHat: I use truecrypt to do 'portable' encryption on Ubuntu & XP
[04:15] <JustinNFX> and Im cheap so netbooks appeal to me also there real neat and better than lugging around a 15in lappy around.
[04:15] <qaxx> got to Setting up sun-java6-bin (6-10-0ubuntu2) ... then all my ssh died and i can't reconnect
[04:15] <ShinyHat> andika: can i add that to a working system, or would i have to start over?
[04:16] <andika> ShinyHat: just install, no need to start over
[04:16] <kravlin> i'm not sure how long this is going to lag through the network i'm on but i'm having issues with hotkeys on my computer. I have hotkeys for volume but the hotkeys are linked to a different device than the one i'm using. can someone help?
[04:16] <ShinyHat> andika: and it would secure the hdd even if mounted in a different machine?
[04:17] <JustinNFX> ynk: do you have the link to the tablet.  Nokia has this real nice (real expensive) handheld that runs a stipped down linux.  The only thing that keeping me back from buying it is i heard the linux lacks many basic programs like a word editor.
[04:17] <andika> ShinyHat: yup, as long as you don't save the password on disk
[04:18] <ShinyHat> andika: lol, or write it on a post-it stuck to the keyboard?
[04:18] <ynk> JustinNFX, i'll get you a link. give me a second.. i'm also playing chess in the background. haha
[04:18] <ShinyHat> andika: i would imagine i have to keep /boot unencrypted?
[04:19] <andika> ShinyHat: well, my truecrypt usage is not for the whole system, but only a special partition
[04:19] <JustinNFX> Since the Kindle II came out and there not selling the OG, I found a used (like new) on there site for $200 I just bought.  Im sorta kicking myself  for the lack of PDF support.
[04:19] <andika> ShinyHat: need different method for whole system encryption
[04:19] <JustinNFX> I'm wondering if I should of got the sony read for only $100 more.
[04:20] <JustinNFX> what do you guys think "Sony Reader" or "Kindle One"?
[04:20] <ShinyHat> andika: is truecrypt capable of encrypting an xp partition?
[04:20] <un2him> i cannot share folders on ntfs partition using jaunty beta...help!
[04:21] <lstarnes> un2him: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[04:21] <un2him> lstarnes: thanks
[04:21] <andika> ShinyHat: no, but you can access a truecrypt-encrypted partition from XP
[04:21] <BlackCoffee> i have kdebase installed,how come i can't select KDE as WM at the logon screen?
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> I am happy!!!
[04:21] <dhruvasagar> I finally was able to get my ubuntu back up!!
[04:22] <JustinNFX> ynk: did you ever heaard of dropbox?? it is this program that you add both your linux, and windows too and share files over a internet foler by just dragging and dropping.
[04:22] <ShinyHat> andika: i see, alright. i will keep true crypt in mind, thanks for the tip :)
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> although I had to reinstall it, but no data loss....awesome
[04:22] <EvilAIM> Hey all, I figured out how to get my tv+ubuntu working properly.
[04:22] <JustinNFX> IMO the best program for ubuntu
[04:22] <dhruvasagar> EvilAIM: hey can you share the same? maybe write a blog about it, please?
[04:22] <EvilAIM> Ya, I'll get on it.
[04:22] <Gnea> !info dropbox
[04:22] <ynk> JustinNFX, wow! that sounds awesome!
[04:23] <max> !atheros
[04:23] <EvilAIM> Anyone have any idea what the best desktop speakers are?
[04:23] <FSWolf> hey all a friend of mine install ubuntu seems she now has to reinstall windows for what ever resion is there a program on ubuntu that can let her view her windows partions and let ubuntu mount it ???
[04:23] <ynk> JustinNFX, so it resides online?
[04:23] <kravlin> i'm having issues with hotkeys on my computer. I have hotkeys for volume but the hotkeys are linked to a different device than the one i'm using. can someone help?
[04:23] <EvilAIM> I'm looking by price and really, none are what I'm lookin' for.
[04:23] <BlackCoffee> !info kde4
[04:23] <Dei> Hey, I had a question regarding DNS...
[04:23] <BlackCoffee> !info kde
[04:23] <Gnea> !ask
[04:23] <EvilAIM> I'm looking for HD quality.
[04:23] <FSWolf> any ideas would be apreshated
[04:23] <JustinNFX> you get   like 2gb to add to your dropbox folder and when you drop files into or download files it somehow miracuously does it instantly you dont wait for the upload
[04:23] <mylisto> anyone ever use kdenlive?  Trying to find out how to add keyframes...
[04:24] <andika> kravlin: your computer type might be incorrectly detected by hotkey script
[04:24] <ynk> JustinNFX, is it free?
[04:24] <Gnea> FSWolf: yeah, Ubuntu can do that on its own, it just needs to 'see' the partitions, which it usually can by default
[04:24] <JustinNFX> Yes, its online because its for windows and linux.  Its free for the 2gb version for now, but more space it cost to upgrade.
[04:24] <FSWolf> where would it show up
[04:24] <Dei> I was trying to run a DNS Server to host information for domains I've purchased. Someone told me that it is not allowed to make updates to the Root DNS Records - or something along these lines - and that I shouldn't be doing it this way.
[04:24] <FSWolf> aparently its in media
[04:24] <FSWolf> not in
[04:24] <FSWolf> sorry
[04:25] <ynk> JustinNFX, and what exactly is the limit on file size? i'm sure it couldn't be more than 10 megs..
[04:25] <JustinNFX> you can also drop like torrent file in there while your a way from how and your pc at home will automatically download it
[04:25] <Gnea> usually if I click on 'Places', it'll be in the list as whatever size of the partition is
[04:25] <ron2010> anybody know how to resolve this error in Gnome-art "ruby: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/gtk2.so: undefined symbol: gtk_file_system_error_quark'?
[04:25] <JustinNFX> ynk: nope a whole 2gb
[04:25] <Gnea> JustinNFX: url?
[04:25] <andika> kravlin: do you use hotkey-setup package?
[04:25] <andika> kravlin: check /etc/init.d/hotkey-setup script
[04:25] <JustinNFX> www.getdropbox.com  its totted as the gdrive killer :-)
[04:26] <Yomic> How do I do the equivalent of sudo in the gui?
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: was that directed tword me ?
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: in places
[04:26] <Gnea> FSWolf: yes.
[04:26] <LlamaZorz> Yomic:  call that gui with sudo
[04:26] <FSWolf> Gnea: FileSystem>PlaceS?
[04:26] <Dei> is anyone familiar with BIND that I could speak with?
[04:27] <lstarnes> Yomic: gksudo (gnome) or kdesudo (kde)
[04:27] <andika> Dei: yes
[04:27] <Gnea> FSWolf: have you not used ubuntu before?
[04:27] <JustinNFX> I have three computer installed one that is remote, and two that are one that same computer so I can share files between linux and windows easy
[04:27] <FSWolf> i put i on my sisters computer :P
[04:27] <FSWolf> i use debian
[04:27] <FSWolf> this a friend
[04:27] <Gnea> JustinNFX: looks interesting. too bad the dropboxd is closed-source :p
[04:27] <FSWolf> she needs help i dont care for that OS
[04:28] <FSWolf> debian is better in every way :P
[04:28] <FloodBot2> FSWolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <JustinNFX> it not hard to install either if I could do it anybody could
[04:28] <FSWolf> quit FloodBot2  ! i flood u not XD
[04:28] <LlamaZorz> Justin take a look at Samba
[04:28]  * meshuggah slaps FloodBot2
[04:28] <BlackCoffee> hee,instaling xfce,kde and blackbox
[04:28] <Gnea> FSWolf: heh, I used to use Debian for years.  Still use it on a few systems. :)
[04:28] <JustinNFX> I thought they give you the source file for the linux version?
[04:29] <Gnea> FSWolf: I happen to think that Ubuntu has made strides where Debian can/will not make them. But, that is beside the point, and off-topic.
[04:29] <FSWolf> Gnea: that it eh i dont use it graphicly either so im not sure how to guide her unless i just go to my sisters computer and work there :? or shh into her system and try to find it my self
[04:29] <JustinNFX> I will stick to dropbox i don't think any thing can beat trust me all I used my computer for is downloading and torrents
[04:29] <ynk> is Python and C/C++ always coupled with every Linux distro?
[04:29] <FSWolf> id have to agree
[04:29] <kravlin> andika: yes. I am using hotkey-setup. i'm in the config file right now.
[04:29] <core1> cryit
[04:29] <LlamaZorz> ynk not every one
[04:29] <FSWolf> yes you are right Gnea  buts not as "manly"
[04:29] <Gnea> FSWolf: well, if you want to help support her on it, perhaps install it in vmware or virtualbox
[04:30] <Gnea> FSWolf: don't even go there ;)
[04:30] <FSWolf> :) ok nothing in places Sir
[04:30] <FSWolf> any other ideas ?
[04:30] <tomorama> Sound won't work. I got it working by checking off the IEC958 switch in vol. control but then I did a system update and sound didn't work after that. The card is not muted, connection is good, volume up, i've grabbed drivers from a fresh kernel, i've reinstalled alsa, but cannot get sound. Any advice?
[04:30] <tomorama> One thing that seems strange: in sound preferences everything is set to alsa, however alsamixer shows the card and chip as "pulseaudio". My card is a realtek.
[04:30] <LlamaZorz> ynk, the most basic linux distro will only have the basic c libraries.
[04:30] <Gnea> FSWolf: did she actually install windows yet?
[04:30] <JustinNFX> I use a program called Idrive for auto backup if you refer a friend you get 10gb for free, and its super fast it transfers at like 400kb a second.  too bad its only for windows
[04:31] <BlackCoffee> has anyone ever installed windows after linux?ubuntu to be more specific?
[04:31] <rww> BlackCoffee: yes.   See above to fix it.
[04:33] <rww> there are also articles on there for Vista, and for the other way around. <3 that site
[04:33] <BlackCoffee> nice
[04:33] <kim4249> Hi everyone
[04:33] <BlackCoffee> you  people know too much
[04:33] <Gnea> FSWolf: I'm really not sure at this point. she might be able to get at it through Places->Computer... but if she has internet access, she might as well open xchat and get on here and ask herself
[04:33] <kravlin> andika: however, most of these are presets for prebuilt computers, this isn't a prebuilt. i'm using an eclipse keyboard and my sound always starts on full.
[04:33] <FSWolf> Gnea: kim4249 is the one who having this issue
[04:33] <Gnea> wow
[04:33] <FloridaN8ve> So, as someone who has only recently stepped into the Linux world, specifically Ubuntu... I am confused about Ubuntu's relationship with Debian. I read the web page on Ubuntu.com related to the topic, but my ignorance of Debian is still too overwhelming.
[04:33] <JustinNFX> anyone know a workaround for using a ATI card that makes the screen go blank during install?
[04:33] <athe> I have a rather strange problem - keyboard stops accepting input during 8.04.2 install. Tried several keyboards, ps2 and usb, same deal - using standard and alternate installation images. Any suggestions?
[04:33] <FSWolf> could u join us in #PRivateTec
[04:34] <tritium> !debian | FloridaN8ve
[04:34] <Gnea> nope
[04:34] <Gnea> we'll do it here.
[04:34] <FSWolf> #Privatetec
[04:34] <Gnea> FSWolf: nothing doing.
[04:34] <Flannel> FloridaN8ve: That question would be better off asked in #ubuntu-offtopic, we'd be glad to spend the time answering your questions there.
[04:34] <kim4249> could someone please help me
[04:34] <qaxx> whoda thunk installing java could wreck 8.10 ec2 beta, bah... note to self, don't use betas
[04:34] <Gnea> kim4249: you're trying to read your NTFS drive from Ubuntu?
[04:34] <andika> kravlin: so create your own hotkey configuration
[04:34] <JustinNFX> Is ubuntu always buggy with ATI would buying a NVIDA card be worth the $$$?
[04:34] <tomorama> Sound won't work. I got it working by checking off the IEC958 switch in vol. control but then I did a system update and sound didn't work after that. The card is not muted, connection is good, volume up, i've grabbed drivers from a fresh kernel, i've reinstalled alsa, but cannot get sound. Any advice?
[04:34] <ynk> JustinNFX, there ya go. http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/computer_can_series.do?storeName=computer_store&category=notebooks&a1=Category&v1=Ultra-Portable&series_name=tx2z_series
[04:34] <andika> kravlin: using xev I think
[04:35] <rww> JustinNFX: my ATI card works fine.
[04:35] <FSWolf> we are in the new room :)) #Privatetec
[04:35] <[biabia]> Help?  Need command on ubuntu like chkconfig and/or ntsysv
[04:35] <FSWolf> so we can all read easyt LOL
[04:35] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  ya but ATI has open up there new drivers
[04:35] <kravlin> !xev
[04:35] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  like say 4730 on wards
[04:35] <Gnea> FSWolf: it's better to do it here, in case it helps someone else
[04:35] <JustinNFX> rww:  I cant even install with my ATI the screen goes blank!
[04:35] <ynk> !help
[04:35] <FSWolf> ok
[04:35] <Gnea> FSWolf: or in case someone else has another option to help
[04:35] <Icebuntu> any thing beyond 4300 series Radeon JustinNFX
[04:36] <FSWolf> ok
[04:36] <FSWolf> :)
[04:36] <JustinNFX> then when i use safe graffic mode it wont let me resize my hard drive.. its crazy hard .. and it never worked
[04:36] <kravlin> andika: what's xev? sorry, i'm not insanely familiar with ubuntu yet. I'm actually worried it might be a problem with the sound drivers because as i said. it's always on full when i start up.
[04:36] <JustinNFX> yeah i think my is like 2400, of 2200 radeon.
[04:36] <FSWolf> shes using irssi btw :)
[04:36] <Icebuntu> JustinNFX:  which graphic card your using
[04:36] <FSWolf> might as well start off in linux correctly
[04:36] <rww> JustinNFX: I have a Radeon HD 3450. Open source drivers work fine in 2D, fglrx works fine in 3D. Very new cards and very old cards have problems, so I guess I got the sweet spot.
[04:36] <FSWolf> with the terminal
[04:36] <JustinNFX> Radeon
[04:36] <Icebuntu> okey
[04:36] <FSWolf> :)
[04:36] <Gnea> hopefully she knows how to type/speak for herself :)
[04:37] <fhdknpc> hello
[04:37] <kim4249> hello
[04:37] <andika> kravlin: xev is a tool to check which keycode(s) is/are generated for any key pressed
[04:37] <FSWolf> yes she does :)
[04:37] <kim4249> I am just so confused
[04:37] <Gnea> kim4249: did you see my message above?
[04:37] <andika> then you use numbers returned by xev to make your hotkey config
[04:37] <fhdknpc> i am new here
[04:37] <kim4249> not sure, the room is moving so fast
[04:37] <Gnea> kim4249: that's okay, we can take it step-by-step until you understand
[04:37] <JustinNFX> I don't underestand because the ATI card is actually better with graffics then my brand new intel card on my lappy which works fine with ubuntu
[04:38]  * FSWolf smiles thank sso much Gnea
[04:38] <texincali> im kinda new to ubuntu could somone help me in changing my soundcard from the onboard to my audigy 4?
[04:38] <kravlin> andika: i'm not having problems because the hotkeys work. They just change the volume on the wrong device.
[04:38] <kim4249> ok gnea, I installed ubuntu and did dual boot but windows XP wont work now
[04:38] <JPSman> How can I find out more information about the gnome games?  like what graphics did they use?  glib or cario or what?
[04:38] <Gnea> kim4249: since you're using irrsi, you should be able to see the highlight when I'm typing like this
[04:38] <kim4249> yes
[04:38] <BlackCoffee> !virtualbox
[04:38] <JPSman> I mean glade
[04:39] <Gnea> kim4249: okay, by 'not work', does that mean that it simply won't boot up or there is no option to boot into windows or.. something else?
[04:39] <JustinNFX> So, if I were to buy another video card (under $100) if i were to play it safe go with a semi-new Nvida.
[04:39] <TwoToneSpirit> kim4249:  Second on the virtualbox motion.  It's the only windows I use / need.  Wine does most, VB does the rest.
[04:39] <JustinNFX> Nvida seems to have a love relationship with ubuntu.
[04:39] <kim4249> the windows XP option is there at startup but when I click on it then it just has black screen that says starting and goes no further
[04:39] <BlackCoffee> yeah but i still can't get my oldie nvidia graphic card to work properly
[04:39] <andika> kravlin: what do you mean by "wrong device"?
[04:40] <JustinNFX> Anybody recommend a economic but efficient card for use with ubuntu and the upcomming distros?
[04:40] <tweaksource> I've been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu, for about 3 years. Haven't used Windows @ home in a while. I have several thousand dollars in Audio Production software which is winblows only. I wanted to use it again so I installed fresh WinXp. Everything is fine. I installed Xubuntu 8.04 and the Network Autoconfig failed. I tried to manually configure and it won't initialize the interface. So I tried a Mandriva 2009.0 disc - no network. DSL
[04:40] <texincali> im kinda new to ubuntu could somone help me in changing my soundcard from the onboard to my audigy 4?
[04:40] <Gnea> kim4249: are you able to press F8 in time to get to the advanced bootup menu for windows?
[04:40] <tritium> JustinNFX: upcoming releases, you mean?
[04:40] <athe> any ideas for my issue? or did the question get buried?
[04:40] <tritium> JustinNFX: ubuntu is the distro
[04:40] <kim4249> yes I have enough time I can do that but didnt know to
[04:40] <chop> is it possible to add more startup programs to a gdm-session .desktop file?
[04:40] <JustinNFX> tritum: sorry, yeah released like the next one
[04:40] <JustinNFX> releases*
[04:40] <meshuggah_> tweaksource, btw, the you know a linux program that is like acid music?
[04:41] <tweaksource> Try LMMS
[04:41] <Gnea> kim4249: give it a shot - try 'last known good configuration' and if that doesn't work, 'safe mode' .. perhaps the problem will fix itself or will become apparent
[04:41] <JustinNFX> this keyboard is horrible if i type too fast menus pop up that prevent me from typing
[04:41] <texincali> meshugga audacity is like acid pro...
[04:41] <meshuggah_> tweaksource, ok thank
[04:41] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksource: will your software not run on virtualbox?
[04:41] <meshuggah_> texincali, maybe i should try it :)
[04:41] <kim4249> ok gnea, I will try it, thanks
[04:41] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksource: Reason runs awesome on virtualbox
[04:41] <Gnea> kim4249: and if it doesn't, let us know :)
[04:41] <jenna^^_> window up
[04:42] <tweaksource> Also try thr ubuntu-studio-audio pgk, meshuggah
[04:42] <kravlin> andika: when i look at my volume control i have 7 different devices listed for some reason. the one i want to use isn't the one that changes when i push the hotkey however.
[04:42]  * g4lt-lappy hands jenna^^_ a / ;P
[04:42] <JustinNFX> So, I know there are some geekz out there what it is a semi decent GPU Card to buy?
[04:42] <grenn> Has anybody had a problem with there CPU fan running on max since you've install ubuntu?
[04:42] <texincali> could somone walk me through in setting up my sound so that i use my audigy card and not my onboard sound card?
[04:42] <jenna^^_> thanks, i am always losing mine ^^
[04:42] <TwoToneSpirit> JustinNFX:  Yeah you are probably safe with a new nvidia card.  Check out newegg comments among nvidia cards and get one that speaks to you.
[04:42] <tritium> JustinNFX: I use nVidia, particularly for my myth boxes, but it depends on your needs, and what you'll use your machine for.
[04:42] <FSWolf> :)) well i hope that works for her
[04:42] <FSWolf> brb a sec i need food
[04:42] <kravlin> andika: the one that controls my sound levels i hear is not the one that adjusts with the hotkeys.
[04:42] <JustinNFX> green: no my cpu fan haas actually slowed down believe it or not nice and quiet
[04:43] <TwoToneSpirit> grenn:  I've seen that problem around.  Check the forums.
[04:43] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> watch your routers all.. just read about a linux bot-net on Digg
[04:43] <JustinNFX> I love newegg
[04:43] <owen1> on many sites i see text as gibrish and it clears when i hover with the mouse. any idea what wrong?
[04:43] <kravlin> texincali: did you turn off the onboard sound in your BIOS?
[04:43] <HFactor> hai all, the ubuntu GNOME screen is showing "Out of Frequency". GUI is not working. How to reset that. It had worked well before
[04:43] <meshuggah_> how can i setup midi on my computer?
[04:43] <quizme> is there a way to test internet explorer on linux?
[04:43] <meshuggah_> i want to be able to use the virtual midi piano?
[04:43] <TwoToneSpirit> P3ngv1n-Fvck3r: link please - that's huge if true
[04:43] <kravlin> JustinNFX: Agreed.
[04:44] <tweaksource> TwoTone, Xubuntu guest in WinXP host connects fine, if that's your question.
[04:44] <andika> kravlin: sorry then, I don't remember how to connect or modify connection between volume_up/down to any specific device control
[04:44] <JustinNFX> If I was making a HTCP I would have to get a graphic card that has a in and a out right?  one for the cable to go to the HTCP, and another cable to go to the TV????
[04:44] <tweaksource> Oh, my bad.
[04:44] <TwoToneSpirit> HFactor:  You are probably out of range for resolution.  Google "ubuntu resolution terminal" and you'll find a way to change it from the terminal.
[04:44] <texincali> no becouse i use both for sound mixing in windows....one for sampling the sounds and one for what is actualy heard in windows....
[04:44] <kravlin> quizme: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:44] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, http://www.linux-magazine.com/online/news/psyb0t_attacks_linux_routers_update
[04:44] <JustinNFX> replace graphic card with tv tuner
[04:44] <texincali> i want to set up my audigy to be the default
[04:44] <tweaksource> The issue with VirtualBox and recording audio in the guest is the USB or Firewire interface scene.
[04:44] <tritium> JustinNFX: no, you'd need a tuner card.  Integrated graphics are sufficient for HTPCs.
[04:45] <quizme> kravlin: thanks
[04:45] <JustinNFX> yeah that what i meant im sorry
[04:45] <Flannel> P3ngv1n-Fvck3r: Please keep offtopic chatter to a minimum.  Thanks.  Also, check your queries.
[04:45] <TwoToneSpirit> tweaksouce:  No, haha, that room is moving so fast.  I was asking what software you use for audio production and if it will work with VIrutalbox.  Reason, which I was frequently, rocks hard on Virtualbox.  No detectable performance hit whatsoever.
[04:45] <kravlin> andika: thanks anyways, as i said. i'm worried it's not recognizing the card early enough anyways. I have an hd onboard that doesn't work with my 2.1 system. I got a cheap card and this happened.
[04:45] <JustinNFX> how does tv tuner work one plug goes the the HTCP and one plug hooks to a wire that goes to your tv for tvout???
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> Flannel, sure, sorry. forgot
[04:46] <TwoToneSpirit> Flannel:  I asked him to post that link - it's very important
[04:46] <kravlin> JustinNFX: First, put the person you're talking to in the message. most IRC clients highlight the message for that user then. Second, I've got no idea then. Sorry.
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, flannel is right tho
[04:46] <P3ngv1n-Fvck3r> TwoToneSpirit, should have pm'd ya
[04:46] <BlackCoffee> is it possible to have different user sessions just using the workspaces?
[04:46] <tritium> JustinNFX: the TV tuner has a coax input.  For a modern HTPC, you'd want HDMI or DVI out to our high-def television.
[04:47] <kravlin> My hotkeys point towards a different device than the one that controls my sound can someone help? (ask for more info)
[04:47] <texincali> kravlin: i use both sound cards i want to set up my audigy to be the default sound card...
[04:47] <tweaksource> It is quite a chore to keep up in here.
[04:47] <JustinNFX> like your cable goes into the HTCP so you can record, pause, and play, then there is a female which allow the cable to go from the tuner directly to the tv
[04:47] <tritium> JustinNFX: no
[04:47] <JustinNFX> i know that im just trying to figure out in my mind how they record and tv output
[04:48] <kravlin> texincali: yeah, unfortunately don't know a whole lot more. keep asking and hopefully someone will be able to help you.
[04:48] <tritium> JustinNFX: it's offtopic for this channel
[04:48] <texincali> could somone help me set up my audigy 4 to be my default soundcard instead of my onboard so i can use it to listen to music?
[04:48] <JustinNFX> tritium: im sorry i thought it had to do with ubuntu since ubuntu makes a mythtv
[04:49] <JustinNFX> i will never mention it again
[04:49] <tritium> JustinNFX: #ubuntu-mythtv, if you care to ask in there
[04:49] <Titan8990> texincali, sometimes you can disable onboard sound in the BIOS
[04:49] <texincali> titan8990: i dont want to disable the onboard i use both in windows....
[04:49] <kravlin> JustinNFX: Ubuntu doesn't make mythTV. It's another group that makes Myth for all platforms.
[04:50] <tritium> kravlin: he's referring to mythbuntu
[04:50] <Titan8990> texincali, the will probably need to blacklist the alsa modules for the onboard sound
[04:50] <kravlin> tritium: ah. makes sense.
[04:50] <texincali> titan8890: how do i do that
[04:50] <JustinNFX> kravlin if you would like to explain how to put person you're talking to in the message i will do it (it been 8 years since I used IRC)
[04:50] <Titan8990> !blacklist | texincali
[04:51] <texincali>  / confused
[04:51] <JustinNFX> kravlin: I mean that they make a version of ubuntu i am sorry I did not make it more clear
[04:51] <texincali> im a noob
[04:51] <texincali> :-P
[04:51] <Titan8990> texincali, what is your onboard sound card?
[04:51] <tritium> JustinNFX: mythbuntu is what you're referring to.  /join #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:51] <texincali> via 8237
[04:52] <JustinNFX> forget it i was just curious, not really pressing on me that bad
[04:52] <kravlin> JustinNFX: got both. I'm not trying to be hostle. Sorry if i came off that way.
[04:52] <b3rz3rk3r> TwoToneSpirit, so, what did you think about the botnet?
[04:52] <ynk> JustinNFX, i think i found an easy way to install netbeans, buddy. LoL
[04:52] <Titan8990> texincali, no idea what module it is
[04:52] <texincali> when i plug my speakers into the onboard my sound works fine...but i want to use the audigy 4 becouse it has more "options"
[04:52] <JustinNFX> ynk: serious the 6.5 version I know you can get nbean 6.0 in add/remove
[04:53] <texincali> i have no idea
[04:53] <Titan8990> texincali, sudo lsmod | grep snd
[04:53] <kravlin> My hotkeys point towards a different device than the one that controls my output can someone help?
[04:53] <ynk> JustinNFX, aw man. here i am, thinking i just did something amazing. lmao
[04:53] <Titan8990> texincali, wait, the card doesn't work at all?
[04:53] <JustinNFX> kravlin: how do you directly speak to the user your chatting to its been atleast 7 years since i used mIRC
[04:53] <texincali> im not getting any sound from my audigy....
[04:54] <texincali> but i am from my onboard
[04:54] <Titan8990> !soundblaster | texincali
[04:54] <texincali> it works fine in windows so the card works
[04:54] <JustinNFX> ynk: tell me if you can get a server to work with reg netbeans, and also tell me if you can open a javascript file by hiting new files, then going to other.
[04:54] <Titan8990> texincali, I know nothing about configuring them, but they do need to be configured
[04:54] <texincali> and it see's the soundcard and says its there
[04:54] <HFactor> i changed my screen resolution in GNOME, now monitor says "Out of Freq". How to get back. I cant get inside GNOME now
[04:54] <Titan8990> texincali, you can check that link
[04:54] <texincali> ok
[04:54] <JustinNFX> ynk: that is why im trying to upgrade it seems that even after i install the servers and stuff it dont work
[04:54] <kravlin> JustinNFX: if you just put their name in like you have it'll highlight what you said to them in most clients. that way it's easier to have a conversation going on.
[04:55] <g4lt-lappy> HFactor, try ctl-alt-bksp
[04:55] <ynk> JustinNFX, sure. it's still installing.
[04:55] <g4lt-lappy> or better ctl-alt-f1 for a console
[04:56] <JustinNFX> kravlin: so, i was doing it right you the person name then this symbol " : "
[04:56] <amitb> I'm trying to connect to my ubuntu desktop (I've already enabled Remote Desktop), but when I connect from VNC I get a dialog box saying 'No matching security types'. What is wrong here?
[04:56] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, sounds like you need to diable encryption
[04:57] <kravlin> or you can do it like this. Welcome back JustinNFX. As long as their name is in there it'll highlight it.
[04:57] <andika-afk> kravlin: http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/398547-volume-hotkey-configuration.html#post1889771
[04:57] <g4lt-lappy> before I waste my money, anyone have a positive result for a buffalo 5-in-1 card reader?
[04:57] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: disable encryption where?
[04:57]  * JPSman licks all of you  - I like you
[04:57] <raven> usser?
[04:57] <QPrime> amitb: on your vnc client (the one you are connecting from)
[04:57] <JustinNFX> kravlin: Through synaptic I installed Zend for PHP and a Ruby Framework plus ruby IDE, and the files are no where to be seen, any idea
[04:58] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, TBH, you can just  type in the first couple letters then tabcomplete ;P
[04:58] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, on the linux side - remote desktop. Just disable using encryption
[04:58] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy explain!
[04:58] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy, OH I DID it
[04:58] <JustinNFX> thanks
[04:58] <QPrime> b3rz3rk3r: he might be connecting from a windows box with vnc enterprise encryption on.
[04:58] <oliver__> i have a Question
[04:59] <JustinNFX> awesome stuff im going to put it in my linux book of super secret knowledge
[04:59] <JustinNFX> lol
[04:59] <b3rz3rk3r> QPrime, true
[04:59] <amitb> QPrime: I'm using the free vncviewer 4 on Windows.
[04:59] <kravlin> JustinNFX: i'm pretty much as clueless as you. I just started really using linux this last year because it was easier to log into my College's computers with it. I'm still learning things all the time.
[04:59] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, what I typically do for you is j-u-s-t-<tab>, most IRC clients will complete the nick when you press tab
[04:59] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, what OS are ytou connecting form?
[04:59] <oliver__> can any one read this?
[04:59] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: vista.
[04:59] <tweaksource> Oliver...ask it.
[04:59] <JKoltner> oliver__: Just ask away
[04:59] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I've also tried from Mac using chicken of vnc, same result
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, make sure that you arent running encryption on the windows side either
[05:00] <QPrime> amitb: the no matching security types usually indicates an encryption or auth problem (client and server not agreeing on the settings)
[05:00] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: there no option for encryption on windows client.
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, if you need security run it thru SSH, or openDNS
[05:00] <kravlin> andika-afk: that's basically what happens but it doesn't do anything to my hotkeys.
[05:00] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, did you disable it on the linux side too?
[05:00] <JustinNFX> g4lt-lappy, kravlin ynk so when I do this do the message go staight to everybody and no one else can see them? plug does it show all the names i put in or no
[05:00] <tweaksource> You can't forward VNC over SSH.
[05:00] <JKoltner> Is the channel named "apache" meant for generic discussion about the web server?  It says there are 299 users over there but there hasn't been anything written in the past 10 minutes I've been watching.
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, and are you appeding the port number to the end of the ip?
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I don't know if I have enabled it.
[05:01] <JustinNFX> plus*
[05:01] <oliver__>  can i some how connect through a network from a windows OS to Ubuntu and have/use dual monitors
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, as in xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:xx
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: yes I'm appending port number.
[05:01] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ok
[05:01] <g4lt-lappy> JustinNFX, no it still goes out toeveryone.  /msg foo message is a private message, it's frowned upon in help channels though
[05:01] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: amitb-desktop:5900
[05:01] <kravlin> JustinNFX: no, everyone can see them. However, we get it in red, or blue or some other shiny color. It shows our names.
[05:01] <QPrime> tweaksource: why not? its tcp and a fixed port.
[05:02] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, check that under your linux remote desktop settings, use encryption is disabled
[05:02] <amitb> I can ssh into my linux machine, but how can I check if encryption is enabled?
[05:02] <kravlin> andika-afk: chepoxxx has my problem on that link. however unfortunately no answer was ever posted.
[05:03] <n8tuser> amitb-> by default ssh meant secure link
[05:03] <mobiGeek> is there a "best practices" guide to maintaining an Ubuntu system up to date (apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade) ?
[05:03] <texincali> kravlin: you still need help with your keys?
[05:03] <saurabh> i had vista and ubuntu in my system........later on i formatted my vista partition and reinstalled vista........now i canot boot into ubuntu even though its presenrt on the system.................pks help
[05:03] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, under the advanced settings, uncheck - require encrytion
[05:03] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, see if that helps things?
[05:03] <texincali> kravlin: for adjusting your audio
[05:03] <tritium> !grub | saurabh
[05:04] <JKoltner> oliver__: I suspect the answer is "most likely yes, but it could take some effort."  (A lot of the remote desktop solutions, including X itself, were designed before multiple monitors were common.)  Have you tried VNC?
[05:04] <kravlin> texincali: yep.
[05:04] <tritium> saurabh: you need to restore grub
[05:04] <nellmathew> hey is there a minimal iso available for jaunty so i can beta it?
[05:04] <tweaksource> QPrime: My bad, I stand corrected. http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html
[05:04] <texincali> kravlin: ok go to system then to sounds
[05:04] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, i dont use vista, so i dont know about that side of things
[05:04] <amitb> I don't have physical access to my linux machine right now, so I can't go and change or even check  if encryption is enabled in remote desktop. All I can do is ssh into the machine.
[05:04] <kravlin> texincali: yeah, basic story is that i have hotkeys and 7 different devices, the hotkeys work but they change the wrong device.
[05:04] <saurabh> tritium:how to restore grub
[05:04] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I have access to Vista, Mac and XP right now.
[05:04] <LlamaZorz> is their a development channel?
[05:04] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, grr.. that makes things rather difficult
[05:04] <tritium> saurabh: I had ubottu send you info above.  Scroll up.
[05:04] <oliver__> no, i tried to google for anything but couldn't find anything...
[05:05] <QPrime> tweaksource: np :)
[05:05] <kravlin> texincali: done.
[05:05] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, iv had it running under Xp just fine before
[05:05] <texincali> kravlin: oh i was ganna say change the default mixer tracks to your soundcard
[05:05] <mylisto> when trying to open help in kdenlive and a few other programs I get this error
[05:05] <mylisto> The file or folder help:/kdenlive/index.html does not exist.
[05:05] <amitb> are the remote desktop settings stored somewhere on disk?
[05:05] <tweaksource> http://www.openssh.com/macos.html
[05:05] <amitb> that I can go and check in a config file or something?
[05:05] <raven> hello... synce-serial-start gives me "Warning! You have firewall rules that may prevent SynCE from working properly!" but my firewall tells me, that it's OFF! my ppc can connect for maximun one minute and then the connection is terminated - who could help?
[05:06] <kravlin> texincali: already tried that. I've changed them all but they still affect the wrong device.
[05:06] <n8tuser> raven-> umm what command did you verify that your firewall is off?
[05:06] <tweaksource> Anyone in here have experience with psychotic network cards?
[05:06] <raven> sudo ufw status
[05:07] <raven> and the connection info...
[05:07] <n8tuser> raven do it this way instead  sudo iptables -vL
[05:07] <bullgard4> tweaksource: What about sseing a doctor?
[05:07] <Hamled> what is the ubuntu package that covers everything you need to be able to build stuff from source (or the basics at least)
[05:07] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, im sure that they are stored somewhere, but as to where is beyond me im afraid
[05:07] <tweaksource> Hamled build-essential
[05:07] <Hamled> thanks
[05:07] <QPrime> Hamled: build-essentials?
[05:08] <Hamled> yeah, I always forget the name
[05:08] <tweaksource> build-essential
[05:08] <n8tuser> dont forget the linux-headers too
[05:08] <Hamled> isn't that only for stuff that uses the kernel?
[05:09] <QPrime> tweaksource: you are correct sir :)
[05:09] <tweaksource> A rare occurance, my friend.
[05:09] <tweaksource> I've been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu, for about 3 years. Haven't used Windows @ home in a while. I have several thousand dollars in Audio Production software which is winblows only. I wanted to use it again so I installed fresh WinXp. Everything is fine. I installed Xubuntu 8.04 and the Network Autoconfig failed. I tried to manually configure and it won't initialize the interface. So I tried a Mandriva 2009.0 disc - no network. DSL
[05:10] <QPrime> Hamled: headers are referenced by many applications during compilation.
[05:10] <JustinNFX> When you install jargon where does it go?
[05:10] <oliver__> JKoltner> will remote desktop software alow dual monitors?
[05:10] <Hamled> QPrime: okay, good to know
[05:10] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: Ok found the settings for remote-desktop, in ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/remote_access, there indeed is a 'require_encryption' entry.
[05:10] <tweaksource> Realtek 8101L onboard lan?
[05:10] <maynardwv> I am currently running ubuntu 8.1, and attempting to check out windows7 in virtualbox, but am unable to do so.
[05:11] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ok great.. set that to value = 0
[05:11] <nellmathew> hey guys, what commands do i need to install ubuntu/gnome (complete default install) using minimal iso? (need to use it cause i have cdrom issues with my laptop)
[05:11] <bangwall> ..
[05:11] <tweaksource> http://tech.norabble.com/2006/07/dual-monitor-remote-desktop-goodness.html
[05:11] <Hamled> QPrime: I have a friend who is trying to compile some utility for no-ip, and gcc is saying stderr and such isn't defined, would the libraries/headers for that be covered by installing build-essential?
[05:11] <Titan8990> nellmathew, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:11] <kravlin> texincali: finally got it, fiddled with random things till it broke in the right way.
[05:11] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: it's true/false, I changed it to false. Will the change take effect immediately?
[05:12] <bangwall> quit
[05:12] <bangwall> \quit
[05:12] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:12] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, save and exit file, then retry connection. shouldnt require a reboot
[05:12] <nellmathew> Titan8990, "cli" then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will the exact same as a LiveCD install right? (extra packages included, pidgin, transmission ect..?)
[05:12] <Titan8990> nellmathew, yes, its the gnome meta package
[05:12] <raven> n8tuser ok iptables does not tell me anything special... but i am not really sure about finding the synce-connection listed there...
[05:12] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: I think there has to be a way to tell gconfd to reload config.
[05:12] <nellmathew> Titan8990, thanks for the help
[05:13] <Titan8990> nellmathew, np
[05:13] <QPrime> Hamled: depends on the libraries that the application you are building is making use of.  did the util come with a makefile?
[05:13] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:13] <Hamled> QPrime: yeah it has a makefile
[05:13] <n8tuser> raven-> do you see any rules listed? if there is, then you have iptables rules and it doesnt mean your firewall is off
[05:14] <maynardwv> I am currently running ubuntu 8.1, and attempting to check out windows7 in virtualbox, but am unable to do so. "VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (rc=-1908)" error received
[05:14] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, no idea.. google? otherwise you can jsut reboot. will have the same effect
[05:14] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:15] <QPrime> Hamled: most source-code builds will give you an idea of the -dev versions of packages that need to be installed for a successful build.  there should be some info about what needs to be available for the compile.  I'm guessing that this is not a source package, but a source tar?
[05:15] <Hamled> QPrime: it's a very simple app, it just runs a single gcc command "gcc -Wall -g -Dlinux -DPREFIX=\"/usr/local\" noip2.c -o noip2"
[05:16] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:16] <crdlb> Hamled: btw, there's a noip client in the repos
[05:16] <Hamled> oh, okay I will let him know, thanks
[05:16] <QPrime> Hamled: best bet is the prebuild repo .deb  build only if you HAVE to.
[05:16] <oospunkey> is this the ubuntu help line?
[05:16] <crdlb> Hamled: the package is noip2
[05:17] <texincali> need somone to help me configure my audigy 4 to be the soundcard that ubuntu 8.1 uses instead of my onboard without disableing my soundcard in the bios...
[05:17] <Hamled> yeah thanks :)
[05:17] <Hamled> I'm just trying to help him get some stuff done, didn't realize he didn't even check apt
[05:18] <QPrime> Hamled: tell him apt will quickly become his best friend.
[05:18] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: gconftool --set /desktop/gnome/remote_access/require_encryption --type boolea false
[05:18] <Hamled> yeah, I'll try to burn that into his mind :)
[05:18] <Hamled> anyways, QPrime, crdlb, you guys have been very helpful
[05:18] <QPrime> oospunkey: occasionally.
[05:18] <crdlb> Hamled: also, many consumer routers have that feature now, so you don't need anything running on the computer
[05:18] <Hamled> cool
[05:18] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:18] <QPrime> Hamled: no problem :)
[05:18] <crdlb> (and there's no lag on public ip changes)
[05:19] <oospunkey> anybody good with network issues?
[05:19] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, nice one.. thx. so yeah.. there you go. Does that work now?
[05:19] <n8tuser> !ask | oospunkey
[05:19] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:19] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:19] <QPrime> oospunkey: whats the issue?
[05:19] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: no doesn't work. If I kill the desktop, will I be able to connect to the X session and login?
[05:20] <stategrid> hehe
[05:20] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:20] <Excell> they use fingerprint readers now?..dang.
[05:20] <zROFLz> heyo
[05:20] <zROFLz> im so drunk
[05:20] <balla> ayoo
[05:20] <balla> im dwunk lol
[05:20] <[Maelstrom]> hey all
[05:20] <balla> LOL MAULSTROM
[05:21] <oospunkey> I get this message: "Failed to retrieve share list from server" everytime I try to access my network
[05:21] <abhishekiitd> hello everyone..ubuntu cannot detect my in-built fingerprint reader.please help
[05:21] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:21] <tritium> Stay on topic, balla.
[05:21] <tritium> abhishekiitd: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader_with_ThinkFinger
[05:21] <balla> j
[05:21] <[Maelstrom]> balla, hi balla
[05:21] <balla> drunk
[05:21] <balla> hi lol
[05:21] <[Maelstrom]> I need a help
[05:22] <[Maelstrom]> I'm on windoze currently
[05:22] <QPrime> oospunkey: need more info... you are accessing a windows server via samba?
[05:22] <opera> ！thread
[05:22] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, ahhh.. this is infuriating. without physical access to the machine, this is proving for harder than it should be
[05:22] <[Maelstrom]> and I'm not able to telnet to my dlink router
[05:22] <amitb> b3rz3rk3r: got it! I had to just do kill -HUP on vino-server
[05:22] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, congrats man!!! well done
[05:22] <oospunkey> trying to access through samba but can't figure out how to install samba in windows
[05:22] <opera> !thread
[05:22] <JustinNFX> to get manuals do I type :  sudo man program?
[05:23] <tritium> JustinNFX: no need for sudo with man
[05:23] <b3rz3rk3r> amitb, sry i couldnt help, but nice one on getting it to work ;)
[05:23] <QPrime> oospunkey: samba isnt needed on windows.  its used to access SMB shares on a windows box from a *nix OS (like Linux)
[05:23] <Excell> Im on 7.10  /  is 8.10 (alot) better?.... and why....thanks.
[05:24] <abhishekiitd> Qprime:What is the command for installing all library packages? something like sudo apt-get install build essentials?
[05:24] <maynardwv> Has anyone used virtualbox to review any of the windws7 betas?
[05:24] <n8tuser> Excell-> nope, stay where you are if you dont know what you need.
[05:24] <amitb> now I'm connected to the VNC server but all I see is black screen
[05:24] <JustinNFX> so man program*
[05:24] <tritium> abhishekiitd: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:24] <oospunkey> ok trying to access a windows machine from ubuntu through my network I think that samba right?
[05:24] <abhishekiitd> trituim:thanks
[05:25] <Excell> ok n8tuser  will do... this 7.10 is working quite well......thanks
[05:25] <tritium> abhishekiitd: but that is not for all library packages.  That is for a basic set of packages you'll need for building from source
[05:25] <raven> ok i think i pointed out the firewall and any password as error... BUT when is run synce-serial-start it takes minutes until it connects but then after c.a. one minute it disconnects again - soon i will not have any ideas any more ;)
[05:25] <tritium> abhishekiitd: did you see the above URL for thinkfinger?
[05:26] <Excell> have a good day folks.
[05:26] <abhishekiitd> trituim:ok...but when i kehy in that command i got the error messgae:You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies:   sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-07-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[05:26] <QPrime> oospunkey: yes.  if you are using gnome (I'm assuming you are if you are using ubuntu) then open a nautilus window and type (smb://<servername>/<sharename>  (remove the angle brackets)
[05:26] <abhishekiitd> tritium:yes, it requires java and some essentials...so i need them
[05:26] <casinaroyale> anyone knows how to uninstall stuff installed with distutils??
[05:27] <QPrime> oospunkey: if things are working correctly and the share requires authentication then it will pop up an authentication dialog.
[05:27] <crdlb> casinaroyale: manually :/
[05:28] <oospunkey> is nautilus the same as terminal?
[05:28] <QPrime> oospunkey: no its the GUI wile browser in Gnome.
[05:28] <rww> oospunkey: Nautilus is GNOME's graphical file browser. Terminal is the thing you type commands into.
[05:28] <[Maelstrom]> anyone for my query ?
[05:28] <[Maelstrom]> I'm using a dlink GLB 502T router
[05:28] <tritium> abhishekiitd: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinkFinger
[05:29] <[Maelstrom]> the gateway is <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <QPrime> *file even! ;)
[05:29] <casinaroyale> crdlb: manually as ain search for all the installed stuff?
[05:29] <casinaroyale> crdlb: will that do ?
[05:29] <tritium> [Maelstrom]: do you have an *ubuntu* question?
[05:29] <crdlb> casinaroyale: yes, in general distutils does not provide an uninstall command
[05:30] <tritium> abhishekiitd: thinkfinger-tools and libpam-thinkfinger are in the repos.  You should not need to compile anything.
[05:30] <casinaroyale> crdlb: is there no better way?
[05:30] <abhishekiitd> tritium:but why do i keep getting this message despite just installing java..."> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >   sun-java6-bin: Depends: sun-java6-jre (= 6-07-3ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). "
[05:30] <Dei> is anyone familiar with ISPConfig and BIND?
[05:31] <crdlb> casinaroyale: if the installer doesn't hack uninstall onto it
[05:31] <oospunkey> ok opened gnome and typed in the address: smb://<servername> and got this error:Error: Failed to retrieve share list from server
[05:31] <oospunkey> Please select another viewer and try again"
[05:31] <rww> tritium: He just /noticed the channel and got banned by floodbot, so I'd say he has more of an #ubuntu problem ;)
[05:31] <casinaroyale> crdlb: can u do that\?
[05:31] <tritium> rww: indeed.  I noticed.
[05:32] <QPrime> oospunkey: is file sharing enabled on the windows host you are trying to browse?
[05:32] <crdlb> casinaroyale: what is the package?
[05:32] <oospunkey> yes I've shared files between my 2 windows machines all the time
[05:32] <casinaroyale> PacketManipulator by UMIT
[05:32] <QPrime> oospunkey: and btw... what is the os version of the windows host?
[05:33] <oospunkey> windows? uh xp sp3
[05:33] <BlackCoffee> can't get audacious to work on kde,but it works fine on gnome
[05:33] <casinaroyale> crdlb: http://trac.umitproject.org/wiki/PacketManipulator
[05:33] <oospunkey> ubuntu 8.10
[05:34] <QPrime> oospunkey: lovely... a fresh sp3 install *grin* who knows what goodies ms has put into that service pack. :P
[05:34] <abhishekiitd> trituim:ok but how do i navigate to root (root/etc) in terminal?
[05:34] <oospunkey> yepper :)
[05:34] <QPrime> oospunkey: xp home or pro?
[05:34] <oospunkey> home
[05:35] <zaccour> how should xubuntu be pronounced?
[05:35] <zaccour> x ubuntu? zoobuntu?
[05:35] <crf> hi, I just tried jaunty jackalope. Why is there "no apm support in kernel"
[05:36] <crdlb> casinaroyale: try 'sudo uninstall_umit'
[05:36] <zaccour> must not be an important question
[05:37] <crdlb> zaccour: probably zoo, I guess
[05:37] <casinaroyale> crdlb: you mean "./setup.py uninstall_umit "??
[05:37] <zaccour> thanks
[05:37] <crdlb> casinaroyale: no, it appears to have installed an uninstall_umit script
[05:39] <QPrime> oospunkey: xp home is a pain to get file sharing on for other operating systems... XP home in a windows Active Directory environment is torture.  My only advice is to bypass the MS 'sharing wizard' junk and see if you can create a local user on your Xp box to authenticate against when you try and access it from your linux box.  there are other areas that often need to be mucked with on the XP home side to make it work properly.  I
[05:39] <o0Chris0o> ubutu come with pre enabled firewall?
[05:39] <toni_> Hi, I'm a linux noob, running Ubuntu 8.10. Just installed nwn and got it to run but the video is completely distorted. Any ideas why this might be?
[05:40] <casinaroyale> crdlb: it doesnt work
[05:40] <crdlb> casinaroyale: can you be more specific?
[05:41] <oospunkey> dang thanx QPrime, would it be worth it to downgrade to 8.04, I've read some report of ppl having trouble with samba and 8.10
[05:42] <suma1> #openfiler
[05:43] <casinaroyale> crdlb: "bash: uninstall_umit: command not found"
[05:43] <QPrime> oospunkey: I'm using 8.10 with no problems on a windows AD based network.  so I'm not sure that a downgrade will solve your issue.  You can prolly find quite a bit of useful info on XP Home edition file sharing with a  google search.  But like I said there are generally (small) changes to make to the way winxp home shares files in order to play nice with other hosts on your network.
[05:44] <abhishekiitd> Qprime:After installing thinkfinger, it says could not detect usb device when i try to run it. the irony is that mine is not a uysb device at all...please help
[05:44] <casinaroyale> crdlb: I can get the PacketManipulator installed. The problem is it doesnt install the plugins. So, I am trying to reinstall it.
[05:44] <oospunkey> QPrime: thanx for ur help NE ways
[05:45] <crdlb> casinaroyale: I guess it didn't install properly then, xplaining the missing uninstaller
[05:45] <QPrime> oospunkey: no problem  hope you get it worked out (shouldnt be too much of a pain - but it will require a little reading on XP home and its file sharing)
[05:46] <casinaroyale> crdlb: How did you know about the uninstaller?
[05:46] <crdlb> casinaroyale: I looked at the setup.py on their source code browsser: http://trac.umitproject.org/browser/trunk/setup.py
[05:46] <QPrime> abhishekiitd: I'm not familiar with thinkfinger... hopefully someone else in the channel is.
[05:47] <nullbyte> Hi... I have a damned problem that annoys for some hours... I plug in a PS/2 mouse, the optic led opens up, but I can't move the cursor on the screen... any fixes before I start cutting my veins please? Thanks...
[05:47] <QPrime> nullbyte: did you plug it in before you booted?
[05:48] <nullbyte> Yes.
[05:48] <QPrime> nullbyte: ubuntu?  what version?
[05:49] <nullbyte> Intrepid Ibex
[05:49] <QPrime> nullbyte: tested the mouse on another pc?
[05:49] <nullbyte> Yes, on a WinXP box.
[05:49] <nullbyte> It works... :(
[05:50] <QPrime> nullbyte: Hmmm... do you have dual boot on the ubuntu box?  are you sure its not a hardware issue with the PS/2 port on the ubuntu box?
[05:51] <nullbyte> I don't have dual-boot, only Ubuntu... Yes I am sure it's not an issue with the port, because practically the mouse gets detected, but I can't move the cursor...
[05:51] <clearscreen> Uhm, when some applications maximize, they take up the whole screen which makes it impossible to use scrollwheel to switch to another workspace.. Is the only 'fix' to this problem to install a theme with a wider border?
[05:52] <casinaroyale> crdlb: I am not installing the complete package umit. I am installing only PacketManipulator
[05:52] <casinaroyale> crdlb: http://trac.umitproject.org/browser/branch/PacketManipulator
[05:53] <QPrime> nullbyte: gets detected?  if you mean the optical led... that just means its getting power on the port.  have you taken a look at dmesg or the logs to see if there is anything in there about the mouse?
[05:53] <nullbyte> So, what I must type after plugging in the mouse?
[05:55] <QPrime> nullbyte: in general ps/2 standard never guarantees hot-plug operation (in fact in some very old mother boards you can damage the PS/2 port with a hot plug - generally not a problem with boards newer than 8 years or so)
[05:56] <QPrime> nullbyte: is your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file empty or non-existent?
[05:56] <nullbyte> QPrime, no.
[05:57] <QPrime> nullbyte: your installation is an upgrade from an older ubuntu version?
[05:57] <nullbyte> QPrime, no.
[05:59] <crdlb> casinaroyale: no uninstall script for that one, but nearly everything seems to be installed to /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PM/
[05:59] <QPrime> Hmmm... any X11 gear-heads in the channel want to take this one over?  It's been quite some time since I had to play with input config in an xorg.conf file.
[06:00] <nullbyte> brb
[06:00] <QPrime> nullbyte: assuming no hardware failure the newer xservers pretty much auto configure all input devices for you.  not much to do there unless you have a particularly odd config.
[06:01] <melik> whats a good CD ripper for linux?
[06:01] <clearscreen> My pidgin main window seems to be following all workspaces around (just in taskbar) even though it's set to "only on this taskbar"
[06:01] <melik> i want to rip in both flac and mp3
[06:02] <crdlb> clearscreen: jaunty support in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <clearscreen> oh goddamnit, thought I was in there
[06:04] <bazhang> !info soundjuicer
[06:05] <bazhang> !info sound-juicer
[06:05] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Hello, I have 8.10 installed on an old laptop that I am using for a 3rd screen with synergy but I dont know if its USB ports are 1.1 or 2.0. In Ubuntu, how do I tell what speed the ports are running at?
[06:06] <QPrime> from console lsusb  should give you usb version numbers
[06:07] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Just says command not found
[06:08] <juan> holaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:08] <QPrime> strange...  lsusb  is pretty much a base package
[06:09] <TheDeepFriedBoot> well, I am in terminal and its sitting there waiting, so I entered lsusb and hit enter and it gave me command not found
[06:09] <juan> soy nuevo en Ubuntu
[06:09] <bazhang> !es
[06:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Wait, I got it working
[06:10] <mattaius> hello
[06:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Thx for the help
[06:11] <QPrime> no prob
[06:11] <TheDeepFriedBoot> too bad the ports are 1.1, anyone know any good PCICMA USB 2.0 cards that work with ubuntu and dont stick out the side?
[06:12] <juan> como modifico Ubuntu con temas de los q se descargan por la web?
[06:12] <TheDeepFriedBoot> !es
[06:12] <casinaroyale> crdlb: Thank u very much..... I'll look into it
[06:12] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: btw... lsusb is part of the usbutils package if you want info on the package you can type 'apt-cache show usbutils'
[06:13] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Thanks, know any good PCMCIA USB cards though? I want to put samba on the laptop and use it as a NAS for my windows machines
[06:13] <TheDeepFriedBoot> It has Firewire so I might just use that
[06:14] <mattaius> exit
[06:14] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: firewire is a good choice if you have peripherals thats use it (choice might be a little more limited tho)
[06:15] <juan> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:15] <Boohbah> !hi | juan
[06:15] <tinkerdom> OK, what is it about the eastern part of the 413 area code that makes it unserviceable? I just spent 3 days trying to get a DID only to be finally told that the provider can't get anything in my rate center.
[06:15] <Nikty> !hi | Nikty
[06:15] <juan> gracias
[06:15] <juan> soy nuevo recien instale el ubuntu
[06:15] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I guess, the drive I wanted to use is USB only but I do have 2 firewire drives that would work.
[06:15] <juan> ayer
[06:15] <Nikty> ubottu: not funny
[06:16] <Crismusg> any problems
[06:16] <Crismusg> id like to help
[06:16] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[06:16] <Crismusg> and please tell ikonia that i`m sorry
[06:16] <Boohbah> !es | juan
[06:17] <EvaLuaTe> any idea when in april the next ubuntu version will be released?
[06:17] <juan> alguien me puedo decir como poner un tema para inicio de secion
[06:17] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @juan: Hablar ingles?
[06:17] <bazhang> juan, english only here
[06:17] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: the problem with PCMCIA/PC Card USB options is power... they almost always need an additional power source (sometimes even attached to the card itself)
[06:17] <Naynay> I've got 9.04-beta going at the moment, but my session keeps dying and returning me to the gdm login
[06:17] <bazhang> Naynay, #ubuntu+1 for that
[06:18] <Naynay> cheers
[06:18] <mib_s68dzfdg> howcome ubuntu 8.10 is worse than 8.04
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Its a powered ext drive so that should not be an issue
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: What to you mean worse
[06:18] <Boohbah> mib_s68dzfdg: specifically to make your life miserable
[06:18] <mib_s68dzfdg> i had to disable my net manager to get my net working!!
[06:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: Works ok for me, whats happening to you?
[06:19] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: WiFi?
[06:19] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: i gotacha on that, but you'd be surprised how often you need to power a PCMCIA card itself, even for attached usb devices that are self powered.
[06:19] <mib_s68dzfdg> also fixed ip after reconfiguring many times, it kept getting reset after reboot
[06:20] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Well that would still not be too much of an issue, this laptop is just coat hangered to the top of my other 2 screens and I use it to power my other USB junk so using a port to power the card is not an issue
[06:20] <mib_s68dzfdg> ultimately had to write to interfaces file and disable the connection manager altogether
[06:20] <mib_s68dzfdg> and then ultimately switched to debian :(
[06:21] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot LAN
[06:22] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: OK, because it all works well for me except for the LAN. My main laptop has a broadcom card that keeps causing kernel panics
[06:22] <ganymede> !hi | ganymede
[06:22] <nebbes> How would I give myself access rights to /dev/input/uinput
[06:22] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: I mainly use the Ubuntu partition for travel with my 3G phone as a modem and that works great
[06:22] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot i heard 8.04 doesnt have that problem at least
[06:23] <mib_s68dzfdg> anyone used django?
[06:23] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @mib_s68dzfdg: 8.04 is great. And considering its a long term release, theres no problem sticking with it
[06:23] <escher1> Hello, i was wondering if someone could offer a fix for wireless connection that is very slow. Should be doing 320 kB  but only getting 14, 20 kB  ?
[06:23] <mib_s68dzfdg> @TheDeepFriedBoot that's all ok, but i changed to debian
[06:24] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @escher1: What type of laptop or more specifically, what type of WiFi card?
[06:24] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I found the birthing pains for Hardy more painful than Intrepid or Jaunty (so far) has been
[06:24] <mib_s68dzfdg> @escher1 interesting nick; inspired by GEB, what?!
[06:24] <escher1> acer 6920 g, intel and i forget how to get the number ?
[06:24] <crink> escher1: make sure someone not stealing your wireless bandwidth
[06:25] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @escher1: OK, Ive dealt with broadcom issues but im not sure about intel
[06:25] <escher1> lol no it is an issue i have read about in many forums but have been unable to correct it
[06:25] <escher1> using wpa 2 for security
[06:25] <Ajit> how to manually install codec to play mp3 in totem (in ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn)
[06:26] <mib_s68dzfdg> @Ajit use rhythmbox
[06:27] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Oh, does anyone know if there is a nicer way to run a NAS off an old laptop than with samba? I liked FreeNAS with its features and webGUI but I want to be able to have a GUI as well
[06:28] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: you don't really what Gnome sucking away cache memory do you?  :P
[06:29] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Well, I kind of want to use this laptop for more than a NAS as well. As I said, I have it clipped to the top of my other screens with clips made from coat hangars and I use it like a 3rd screen with synergy
[06:29] <Slart> !feisty
[06:29] <QPrime> think of it as a Netware server and become one with the console/WebUI
[06:30] <Slart> Ajit: feisty isn't supported any more.. you can still run it, of course.. but upgrading is recommended
[06:30] <dingding> hello how can i speak with the operator?
[06:30] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: Aww, but I dont want a terminal, it looks no nice on top of my other monitors, its like a HUD, currently its acting as a Wootoff monitor for me
[06:30] <Slart> dingding: they usually hang out in #ubuntu-ops
[06:31] <QPrime> Not familiar with FreeNAS  but I'm sure you could add XFCE to it by hand
[06:31] <nftyw_L> I flicked my scroll wheel and my desktop shifted to the side!
[06:32] <QPrime> nftyw_L: Compiz will do that for you!
[06:32] <nftyw_L> what is the keyboard shortcut for it
[06:32] <dingding> hello how can i speak with the operator?
[06:32] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: OK, ill look into that when I have time to mess around with the laptop. As for FreeNAS, go take a look at it, its really neat
[06:33] <Slart> dingding: try reading what people are telling you
[06:33] <MindVirus> Hi. When I open Firefox, it takes up the entire screen and hides my panel.
[06:33] <nebbes> How do I give myself access rights to /dev/input/uinput?
[06:33] <MindVirus> The title bar is non-existent.
[06:33] <nftyw_L> hit f11
[06:33] <MindVirus> I tried to alt+drag to no avail.
[06:33] <MindVirus> No, it's not in full-screen mode.
[06:33] <nftyw_L> oh ok
[06:34] <QPrime> nftyw_L: configurable but I think the default is <CTRL>+<ALT>+<arrow keys>
[06:35] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I'll check it out, thanks.
[06:35] <dingding> mindvirus:the title bar is existing on other apps?
[06:35] <MindVirus> Of course.
[06:35] <nnutter> Is the Jaunty beta really only available as a DVD image? (Alpha 6 was a CD image.)
[06:35] <Slart> !jaunty | nnutter
[06:35] <MindVirus> dingding, interesting.
[06:36] <QPrime> nnutter: look at releases.ubuntu.com
[06:36] <nnutter> Slart, k.
[06:36] <nnutter> QPrime: irrelevant, but ty.
[06:37] <Ajit> How to upgrade?
[06:37] <MindVirus> nftyw_L, dingding: interesting. The window takes up the whole screen when I start it, but when I go to full-screen mode and go out, the window returns to normal.
[06:37] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Ajit: Upgrade what?
[06:37] <QPrime> nnutter: ???
[06:37] <Slart> !upgrade | Ajit
[06:37] <nnutter> QPrime: I apologize...
[06:38] <nnutter> QPrime: +ty
[06:39] <QPrime> nnutter: no problem.  the cd sized iso's are available there.  and you're welcome.  :)
[06:39] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I googled installing Xfce in FreeNAS and its been done, but it seems to be more work than its worth
[06:39] <jhass840> Hi, all of a sudden I am no longer able to download packages using apt-get.  I get the following error Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:8118 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused).  Anyone know why this would happen?
[06:40] <QPrime> jhass840: using a proxy?
[06:40] <jhass840> QPrime: No
[06:41] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: awww, come on!  the thrill of the hunt is not appealing to you?  (even tho in this case it looks like you will have to dress your own kill)
[06:41] <dingding> !ban >dingding
[06:41] <MindVirus> My screen resolution is the image size. http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5117/screenshotc.png
[06:41] <QPrime> jhass840: based on that message you are.
[06:42] <MindVirus> This is obviously not full-screen mode.
[06:42] <QPrime> jhass840: <IP_ADDRESS> is your local loopback address
[06:42] <jhass840> QPrime: Well, then it has been set up without my knowledge
[06:42] <QPrime> jhass840: <IP_ADDRESS> is your local loopback address
[06:42] <c0l2e1> what to do to unmount CIFS before networkmanager disconnects on shutdown/restart?
[06:42] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @QPrime: I really dont have too much time to mess around with it. Too much work in college. Also, I like Ubuntu. Samba seems to work fine so ill stick with that I guess
[06:43] <QPrime> TheDeepFriedBoot: I hear ya.  good luck. :)
[06:44] <SandGorgon> guys.. how does one upgrade to the latest transmission BT client
[06:44] <raven> still trouble syncing to pocketpc: it only works when i open "firestarter" and stop the firewall. i entered some rules to allow the connection but it does not work. and in addition to tht i still have to use synce-serial-start to initiate the connection; it does not work by script automatically
[06:44] <QPrime>  jhass840: check it out... an unknown proxy config on your box is something you want to look at.
[06:44] <raven> some ideas?
[06:45] <dingding> MindVirus:did you installed firefox themes?
[06:45] <MindVirus> What themes?
[06:45] <MindVirus> Furthermore, this is interestnig.
[06:46] <MindVirus> *interesting.
[06:46] <MindVirus> When I disable compositing, Firefox opens normally.
[06:46] <dingding> firefox themes-skins
[06:46] <MindVirus> dingding, I didn't install anything extra.
[06:46] <dingding> someone help mind virus
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Have you tried just reinstalling?
[06:47] <MindVirus> Firefox?
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Ya
[06:47] <MindVirus> *sigh* How will that help?
[06:47] <raven> still trouble syncing to pocketpc: it only works when i open "firestarter" and stop the firewall. i entered some rules to allow the connection but it does not work. and in addition to tht i still have to use synce-serial-start to initiate the connection; it does not work by script automatically. any ideas?
[06:47] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Might reset it to defaults, could be some setting thats messed up. Is this a fresh install?
[06:47] <MindVirus> Somewhat.
[06:48] <MindVirus> I installed a week ago and Firefox never did that.
[06:48] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Any new updates or anything?
[06:48] <MindVirus> Yeah, actually.
[06:48] <MindVirus> Good call.
[06:48] <MindVirus> That may be it.
[06:48] <MindVirus> TheDeepFriedBoot, how to check recent updates again?
[06:48] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @MindVirus: Umm, no clue, sorry...
[06:49] <MindVirus> Aye.
[06:50] <QPrime> MindVirus: check for firefox updates or Ubuntu updates?
[06:50] <MindVirus> Hmm.
[06:50] <MindVirus> I moved my .mozilla to mozilla and the problem does not occur anymore.
[06:50] <HammerHead66> hay has anyone seen this error before?      http://paste.ubuntu.com/138758/
[06:51] <MindVirus> Something's screwed in my settings.
[06:51] <dingding> hammerhead66: i did
[06:51] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: I am not an expert at errors but it looks like your computer is trying to DL updates from itself...
[06:51] <noren> hi all
[06:51] <MindVirus> Something in .mozilla.
[06:51] <noren> i m having trouble with the realplayer in kubuntu it pauses after every few seconds
[06:52] <noren> is it better to run it with wine
[06:52] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @noren: Have you tried something other than realplayer, such as VLC?
[06:52] <HammerHead66> TheDeepFriedBoot: ok how do I stop that?
[06:53] <Slart> HammerHead66: seems you're using some kind of proxy
[06:53] <noren> TheDeepFriedBoot: well rm and rmvb wont play in vlc
[06:53] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Not sure, but since it says its trying to contact 127
[06:53] <dingding> HammerHead66: i had the same problem but with one file only
[06:53] <Slart> HammerHead66: annon-proxy? been using tor?
[06:53] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Not sure, but since it says its trying to contact <IP_ADDRESS> which is your loopback address, you somehow need to set it back to the main udate servers
[06:53] <HammerHead66> TheDeepFriedBoot: have net encryption software active
[06:53] <HammerHead66> *I
[06:53] <dingding> sudo apt-get update
[06:54] <noren> how do u play rm and rmvd in vlc
[06:54] <noren> rmvb
[06:54] <Slart> noren: I don't think vlc can play realmedia files
[06:54] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: That software is most likely acting as a proxy, turn it off and try again
[06:54] <HammerHead66> TheDeepFriedBoot: I have net encryption software active. But even if I turn it off I get the same error
[06:54] <dingding> noren:it should play itself without codecs
[06:55] <heril> HammerHead66: a global variable is set for the proxy
[06:55] <noren> Slart: i guess so, is it better to get the real player running with wine
[06:55] <heril> HammerHead66: set|grep proxy
[06:55] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: The <IP_ADDRESS> is common for proxy software but you need to get it back to normal somehow
[06:55] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @HammerHead66: Thats most likely where your problem lies
[06:56] <frybye> Start mplayer can handle them or...?
[06:56] <HammerHead66> heril:    TheDeepFriedBoot:  ok thanks guys
[06:56] <Slart> noren: nah.. use the linux version.. it's not that bad.. you download a binary and run it
[06:56] <heril> if a variable comes up from that command, unset it
[06:56] <frybye> <-- trying to remember how I do it at home - for bbc m-media content - mplayer and mplayer mozilla-plugin or similar...
[06:56] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @noren: I think VLC should be able to run realplayer media, try it, not much to loose and soo much to gail
[06:57] <QPrime> Thats the second possible 'proxy' issue... might be a broken update config in the repos?  I didnt ask what release jhass840 was updating against
[06:57] <Kimi> a flv file... has video and audi both.... but its not playing the video but i hear only audio///// what shall i install from synpantic ??
[06:57] <TheDeepFriedBoot> gain*
[06:57] <heril> some versions of realmedia can be played with VLC
[06:57] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: What program are you playing it with?
[06:57] <noren> TheDeepFriedBoot: it play only the sudio part no vid are comming in that
[06:58] <Kimi> all.. in default ubuntu and vlc
[06:58] <heril> mplayer is probably better for realmedia than vlc
[06:58] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Strange, VLC is made to handle FLV. Might be something wrong with the FLV itself
[06:58] <Kimi> is there any flv player in synpantic ?
[06:59] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Well, there are a lot of players, beyond VLC, I am not sure what else does FLV
[06:59] <MindVirus> I found a fix.
[06:59] <MindVirus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183132#post6183132
[06:59] <Kimi> well.. i need only a flv player..... suggest some plz
[07:00] <zohreh> hello
[07:00] <Kimi> zohreh Hi
[07:00] <zohreh> how can start computer in specific time in ubuntu?
[07:00] <staniol> neata!
[07:00] <Kimi> TheDeep
[07:00] <Sagaci> to install the beta or to not install the beta
[07:00] <Slart> Kimi, TheDeepFriedBoot: isn't flv just a container format just like avi? it can use any number of weird codecs.. there's no way of knowing if you can play a file just by looking at the filetype
[07:01] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot any suggestions for a flv player from synpantic ?
[07:01] <heril> you won't find something that only plays flv
[07:01] <Kimi> Slart ?!
[07:01] <jhass840> QPrime: I'm using Intrepid and I'm an idiot because I completely forgot that I used to run privoxy
[07:01] <heril> any program like that is useless as a desktop program
[07:01] <bazhang> Kimi, miro
[07:01] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: As I said, I dont know of any other programs that do FLV besides VLC since I only ever use VLC for FLVs
[07:01] <kleniu> !pl
[07:01] <Kimi> bazhang is it in synpantic ?
[07:01] <bazhang> Kimi, yes
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <Kimi> bazhang now thinking little differenet :P how do i install something in repositatory from terminal ?
[07:02] <QPrime> jhass840: *grin* no problem... thanks for the update.  things working properly for you now?
[07:02] <heril> Kimi: sudo apt-get install
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:02] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, english here
[07:02] <Kimi> heril thanks.../
[07:03] <Slart> !es | INGENIEROSISTEMA
[07:03] <jhass840> QPrime: yeah, everything is peachy now
[07:03] <bazhang> !br | INGENIEROSISTEMA
[07:03] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:03] <Kimi> is there any ubuntu chanel for hindi ?
[07:03] <QPrime> jhass840: yay!
[07:03] <Slart> !irc | Kimi
[07:03] <bazhang> Kimi, #ubuntu-in
[07:04] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:04] <INGENIEROSISTEMA> ALGUIEN QUIERE HABLAR ALGUN TEMA DE COMPUTACION O TECNOLOGIA
[07:04] <FloodBot2> INGENIEROSISTEMA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:04] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, stop
[07:05] <zohreh> any idea?
[07:05] <INGENIEROSISTEMA>  I SPEAK ENGLISH
[07:05] <jhass840> Alright, well I'm going to go play Thousand Parsec now.  Goodnight
[07:05] <bazhang> INGENIEROSISTEMA, dont use caps
[07:05] <HammerHead66> heril:    TheDeepFriedBoot:  ok know I understand why it is giving me the error. Thanks for the help.
[07:05] <heril> Kimi: for more details for command line installing, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[07:06] <Kimi> [sudo] password for krishna:
[07:06] <Kimi> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:06] <Kimi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:06] <Kimi> ?
[07:06] <TheDeepFriedBoot> Hey, Im back. I am on Mibbit web IRC atm and it disconnected me for some reason
[07:06] <bazhang> Kimi, is another instance running?
[07:06] <heril> Kimi: is synaptic running?
[07:06] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, are you running update manager or an apt-get?
[07:07] <Kimi> only terminal, browser and xchat
[07:07] <andika> Kimi: sudo lsof -n|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:07] <bazhang> !aptfix | Kimi
[07:08] <Kimi>  sudo lsof -n|grep /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:08] <Kimi> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/krishna/.gvfs
[07:08] <Kimi>       Output information may be incomplete.
[07:08] <Kimi> apt-get   5686       root    4uW     REG        7,0        0     243481 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:08] <jerknextdoor> is there an official torrent for 9.04 beta?
[07:08] <FloodBot2> Kimi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <bazhang> jerknextdoor, #ubuntu+1 for that (yes)
[07:08] <andika> Kimi: there! apt-get still run
[07:09] <Kimi> i did what ubotttu said
[07:09] <Kimi> !thanks
[07:09] <TheDeepFriedBoot> lol
[07:09] <Kimi> ^ ?
[07:10] <jerknextdoor> bazhang: thanks.  i just happened to see the torrent right after i asked anyways.
[07:10] <Kimi> morning . i was asking.. how to extract __a to __f files :(
[07:10] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi:? at me or the bot?
[07:10] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot at you :P but nothing... :P
[07:10] <Athenon> What software is reccomended in Ubuntu for an nntp _SERVER_?
[07:11] <Kimi> How do i join __a to __f files ?? any tool ?
[07:11] <heril> Kimi: what file format?
[07:11] <andika> join? cat will suffice I guess
[07:11] <heril> andika: assuming text data, yes
[07:11] <Kimi> name.rar.__a
[07:11] <andika> cat __a __b __c __d __e __f >> merged.file
[07:11] <Kimi> name.rar.__b
[07:11] <heril> Kimi: multi-part rar?
[07:12] <QPrime> well guys/gals/bots I'm off.  have a good night/day  :)
[07:12] <Kimi> no.. multipart rars will be part1.rar to partX.rar
[07:12] <andika> Kimi unrar x name.rar.___a ?
[07:12] <HammerHead66> QPrime: have a good night
[07:12] <Kimi> my frnd sent it.. earlier he sent in .rar.001 format .. i solved it with hjsplit....... now he is sending in __A __B how to join ?
[07:12] <Kimi> hjsplit didnt work on it
[07:13] <heril> Kimi: what's file name.rar.___a say?
[07:13] <Kimi> i tried all these morning itself.... asked them here
[07:13] <Kimi> i need a specific tool to join them
[07:13] <Slart> Kimi: have you asked your friend what software he used to create those files?
[07:13] <Kimi> like hjsplit .... to join 001 to 00x  but hj wont work on this
[07:13] <Kimi> Slart thats really his challenge :'(
[07:14] <g4lt-lappy> well, there is a nice tool called file that will tell you what type it is
[07:14] <heril> Kimi: but it would help you put them back together, yes?
[07:14] <Kimi> heril ?!
[07:14] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Most extraction apps will extract all parts when you tell them to extract part 1 assuming there all in the same directory
[07:14] <heril> Kimi: if we know what he put it together with, we can know maybe how to put it back together
[07:15] <Kimi> some movie
[07:15] <g4lt-lappy> fine, ignore me.  your loss
[07:15] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: Have you tried 7zip and tried to extract the main one?
[07:15] <noren_> 7zip is good tool
[07:15] <Slart> !who | g4lt-lappy
[07:15] <Kimi>  i backitup and tried p7zip
[07:16] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @Kimi: OK, because with 7zip, you put all the rar.001 - rar.whatever files in the same place and tell it to extract the 001 file and it will jump from file to file and put them back gethther
[07:16] <Sagaci> !tab
[07:17] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot, what i mean is you dont understand
[07:17] <pawan1234> hi
[07:17] <pawan1234> what is the latest version of azureus
[07:17] <Kimi> TheDeepFriedBoot, its not working.. tried p7zip .... tried to open __a with it
[07:17] <pawan1234> how to install it
[07:18] <pawan1234> how to associate mp3 files to load default by audacious
[07:18] <noren_> pawan1234: use synaptic or apt-get
[07:18] <g4lt-lappy> pawan1234, sudo apt-get install azureus
[07:18] <HammerHead66> Kimi: how big is the file extracted?
[07:18] <TheDeepFriedBoot> @pawan1234: Goto the application menu on the top bar and goto add/remove, then make sure all applications is selected beside the search box and then search for what you need
[07:19] <g4lt-lappy> slacker_nl, now watch, even when I did what you think, I'll still be ignored
[07:19] <g4lt-lappy> slart ^^^^
[07:19] <jerknextdoor> g4lt-lappy: what do you need?
[07:19] <bluenzo> okay i just ...broke something
[07:19] <bluenzo> lol
[07:20] <kraut> moin
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> jeremy_c, nothing, I just gave the answeres to two people asking questions and wsas disgusted when they were completely ignored
[07:20] <g4lt-lappy> jerknextdoor, ^^^^^
[07:20] <sprockets2000> anyone ever had a problem where it wont let you activate the nvidia prop drivers
[07:20] <sprockets2000> can i just edit the xorg.conf to use "nvidia"
[07:20] <bluenzo> i had windows7 on my 640GB HDD, then installed ubuntu on a 40GB HDD, then deleted windows7 and installed windows vista on the 640GB, now the bootloader isnt showing up, i dunno how to fix this
[07:21] <jerknextdoor> g4lt-lappy: it's a voluntary support channel.  we help who we can.
[07:21] <noren_> !grub | bluenzo:
[07:21] <g4lt-lappy> jerknextdoor, uhm, I'm the supportER here
[07:21] <bluenzo> thanks
[07:22] <Slart> g4lt-lappy: so? dont answer that person again.. don't answer anyone.. we're all volounteers here
[07:22] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: just cool down buddy :)
[07:23] <g4lt-lappy> Slart, REALLY?  I've only been helping on this particular network for a decade
[07:23] <Slart> g4lt-lappy: then you should know better
[07:25] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: then u might help me out with the real media prob of mine ?? it gets stuck after every few second i am trying to solv it
[07:25] <bouma> con someone please tell me is it possible to use a wifi adapter (that is already detected in my laptop) to 'create' a wireless access point, so that other devices will 'See it' when they browse for wifi
[07:25] <bouma> ???
[07:25] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, real has some pretty hard issues with latency.  have you tried helix?
[07:26] <bouma> iive been googling on the issue, but so far cant find a definitive answer
[07:26] <g4lt-lappy> (helix is the FOSS version of real)
[07:26] <bouma> i thought it was something that i read the newest linux kernel could do, on slashdot
[07:26] <heril> bouma: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[07:26] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, depends, a few adapters have a host mode, most will just have to deal with ad-hoc
[07:26] <bouma> but is this available under ubuntu 8.10, otherwise can i do it by compiling my own kernel ?
[07:26] <fangyanna> ni hao
[07:28] <bouma> thanks heril
[07:28] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: yes i have its same there, thts why i why thinking of getting the realplayer (windows vers) and try it out with wine. what do u say
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> boubbin_, it's pretty adapter specific
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, certsainly can't hurt.  have you gone to a speedtest webssite and ensured you aren't having latency issues?
[07:28] <bouma> heril: i dont really know the nomenclature of wifi, i have just treated it as a magical black box that works. i thought i knew abit about networking until wifi happened. now i feel behind the times
[07:28] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: latency issue,, how to check that
[07:28] <bouma> heril: can a itouch connect to an adhoc wifi network  ?
[07:28] <glitchd> got a problem with atheros wifi
[07:28] <glitchd> can anyone help?
[07:28] <HammerHead66> bouma:  https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/wireless.html  here is another place for you to learn from
[07:28] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, go to one of the speedtesting websites and ensure that you're actually getting the network speed your ISP claims
[07:29] <corinth> What's the problem, glitchd ?
[07:29] <crdlb> bouma: what chipset is it?
[07:29] <corinth> Is the DVD the only form the beta comes in? No ~700mb CD?
[07:29] <heril> bouma: a quick google search shows people have done it
[07:29] <glitchd> corinth, is it ok if i pm u?
[07:29] <noren_> g4lt-lappy: but what is that to do with some files i already have on my harddisk
[07:30] <crdlb> corinth: there is a CD, but please join #ubuntu+1
[07:30] <Acedip> well guys when i type "sudo apti" and TAB it shows me this " sudo aptitu_get_cword    compgen -c -- $cur"  and starts the in-shell
[07:30] <glitchd> corinth, this place is a lil much for me
[07:30] <corinth> crdlb: Ah bah, thanks.
[07:30] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, .rm files STILL access the network
[07:30] <g4lt-lappy> if it's not a .rm file, WTF are you using real, use a player that's aimed at the file
[07:31] <noren_> wow i never knew that,
[07:31] <g4lt-lappy> noren_, \strings the .rm file, you'll find ot has a rtsp url in it
[07:31] <noren_> i got rmvb files
[07:31] <sprockets2000> for some reason on my wifes notebook i cannot get the nvidia drivers to install it comes up downloading and installing and just goes away
[07:31] <sprockets2000> is it possible to use the open source driver "nv"
[07:32] <sprockets2000> or is there another way to get the prop drivers working
[07:32] <g4lt-lappy> sprockets2000, which versiojn of nvidia, and which card?
[07:32]  * g4lt-lappy bets it's a legacy/177 issue
[07:32] <sprockets2000> g4lt its not a dedicated card
[07:32] <sprockets2000> its a integrated
[07:32] <noren_> sprockets2000: use apt-get install
[07:32] <g4lt-lappy> 5200go?
[07:33] <sprockets2000> for what noren
[07:33] <sprockets2000> for what package
[07:33] <grodius> hey could anyone help me? im trying to install compiz.
[07:33] <sprockets2000> its a 7150M I believe
[07:33] <g4lt-lappy> sprockets2000, seriously, what adapter, I'll bet you're trying to install 177 with a legacy adapter
[07:33] <Maslow> Hi, any of you happen to know how to change the default application used to open particular filetypes?
[07:33] <sprockets2000> g4lt its integrated 7150m
[07:33] <g4lt-lappy> 7150m, yup.  use 173
[07:33] <sprockets2000> tried 173
[07:33] <sprockets2000> no dice
[07:33] <HammerHead66> does anyone know how to purge ATI Radeon drivers?
[07:34] <crdlb> Maslow: right click on a file of that type and go to properties > open with
[07:34] <crdlb> HammerHead66: which ones?
[07:34] <spoown> Hello all
[07:34] <grodius> has anyone run compiz on jaunty?
[07:34] <g4lt-lappy> HammerHead66, sudp apt-get --purge remove
[07:34] <Maslow> OIC, dur. Ty.
[07:34] <crdlb> grodius: many people, but they're in #ubuntu+1 :)
[07:34] <g4lt-lappy> grodius, jaunty -> #ubuntu+1
[07:34] <Nalf> g4lt-lappy, he needs the package name.. it's xorg-fglrx something ridiculous.
[07:34] <HammerHead66> g4lt-lappy: ty you have really helped me out
[07:35] <grodius> thsns guys
[07:36] <sprockets2000> but its not a big deal i mean i am fine using the open source drivers, "nv" xf86-video-nvidia but no idea what the package name is in apt
[07:36] <spoown_> Can I Get some help ? I cannot play sound, and alsa config seems pretty good, no mute in alsamixer, and the proper driver are loaded ? I don't see why I cannot get sound ! any clue ?
[07:36]  * nanmalm away
[07:37] <eqisow> spoown: do you have more than one output device? for example, a normal analog speaker out AND a PCM optical/coaxial out?
[07:37] <noren_> !sound | [Spoown_
[07:37] <heril> sprockets2000: apt-cache search nvidia|grep driver ?
[07:38] <spoown_> eqisow, no only one device I need, my speaker
[07:39] <g4lt-lappy> spoop, taht's nice, now does your COMPUER know that the only device you need is your speaker?
[07:39] <eqisow> exactly, if you have an optical out it may be set as default
[07:40] <eqisow> PCM out*
[07:41] <nftyw_L> Hmm a hopefully quick question, I'm trying to edit menu.lst in /boot/grub/ so I can destroy my ability to boot, but it won't let me save.  How do I get access?
[07:41] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, well, optical too, but that's a bit more rare ;P
[07:41] <eqisow> nftyw: You need root priveleges to alter that file, use sudo.... did you say you're trying to make your system unbootable?
[07:41] <Slart> nftyw_L: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:41] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, qhy in gods name would you wnat to destroy your ability to boot?
[07:41] <sprockets2000> in ubuntu is the name of the driver "nv" i have the open source driver installed now and added "nv" as the driver in xorg and it fails to start x
[07:41] <Slart> nftyw_L: basically you need to be root to edit and save that file
[07:42] <nftyw_L> Sorry, I've been hanging around sarcastic people for too long
[07:42] <nftyw_L> I'm editing the file so it can boot off the win 98 partition on the old hard drive
[07:42] <simplexio> nftyw_L: need to use root access
[07:42] <spoown_> ubottu, Thanks it works, didn't the MM in alsamixer, and with GUI, I spotted at first time ! Thanks a lot, it was very simple...
[07:42] <nftyw_L> I can't find the terminal or console or command line or whatever
[07:42] <simplexio> nftyw_L: and nice see once a realist in channel
[07:43] <spoown_> g4lt-lappy, thanks for help, but found a solution... :)
[07:43] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, sudo vi /etc/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <eqisow> nftyw: alt+f2 then gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:43] <[Mice]> join #linux-beginners-cn
[07:43] <eqisow> don't tell him to use vi, wth :/
[07:43] <nftyw_L> Yeah come on I'll at least try emacs over vi
[07:43] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, *I* use it ;P
[07:44] <bouma> crdlb: well ive got the wireless connection from my lappy to the itouch, now how to share the connection? do i have to run a dhcp server on the lappy, and forward packets by using iptables or something. or can i use a nice gui to do it with a couple of clicks ??
[07:44] <Flannel> g4lt-lappy: It's best to recommend nano in this channel.
[07:44] <eqisow> lol, it's not a beginners editor and you know it lappy :p
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, okasy sudo $EDITOR /etc/grum/menu.lst
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> equwhen I started it was ;P
[07:44] <g4lt-lappy> eqisow, ^^^^
[07:44] <noren_> nftyw_L: use gedit or kate they are better gui editor
[07:46] <crdlb> bouma: what is the source of the net connection?
[07:47] <nftyw_L> That worked well eqisow, thanks
[07:47] <bouma> does anyone know about the 'shared to other computers' option under ip4 settings in the network mananger ??
[07:47] <bouma> does anyone know about the 'shared to other computers' option under ip4 settings in the network mananger ??
[07:48] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, yeah, that will set up an ad-hoc network for wifi
[07:49] <crdlb> bouma: if you're using wifi to receive your net connection, you can't also use that same wifi card for sharing to something else
[07:49] <nftyw_L> I should use rootnoverify in the bootmenu instead of root to boot Windows 98, is that right?
[07:49] <eqisow> nftyw_L: yes
[07:49] <nftyw_L> Mmkay.  The rest of it I believe I got down.
[07:50] <eqisow> you can pastebin if you want me to look at it
[07:51] <HammerHead66> To who ever it was that helped me with the ATI Radeon Driver purge it worked! Man I owe you one.
[07:51] <nftyw_L> Eh, I only changed a few lines and pretty much copy pasted the example with some reference to the manual so I think I'll be good
[07:51] <eqisow> good deal then
[07:52] <nftyw_L> Thanks a bunch for the advice
[07:52] <bouma> g4lt-lappy: ok so ive got a wired eth0 with internet, and i want to share it with my adhoc wifi network. do i use the shared with other computer option ?
[07:52] <bouma> crdlb: no ive got a wired internet and want to share with an adhoc wifi network
[07:53] <crdlb> bouma: ok, that should be possible as long as the driver supports it
[07:54] <BlackDalek> I am trying to see if I can open an MS Access database in Kexi... when I try to import it is crashing and giving errors - "b5efe000-b5eff000 r-xp 0000KCrash: Application 'kexi' crashing...  Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.  KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly." ...then it exits
[07:55] <oc__> i'm a long way from home and m$ stranded . .
[07:55] <bouma> crdlb: can i just put the lappy as my router in the itouch, and manually put in the dns to the itouch aswell. do i have to set the lappy to forward packets between the eth0 and the wifi adapter ?
[07:55] <nftyw_L> whoops!
[07:55] <crdlb> bouma: it's not really that simple; your driver needs to support being an access point
[07:55] <simplexio> bouma: yes you can.. bouma easiest way is bridge eth0 and wlan0 on lappy
[07:55] <g4lt-lappy> bouma, yes
[07:56] <bouma> simplexio: how to bridge them?
[07:56] <g4lt-lappy> crdlb, not an adhoc...
[07:56] <bouma> simplexio: with ifconfig ?
[07:56] <nftyw_L> Hmm.  Must have screwed up somewhere in there
[07:56] <Kimi> !tab > Kimi
[07:56] <simplexio> bouma: google . bridge linux .. .etc. you need bridge-utils , command to use is brctl
[07:56] <g4lt-lappy> infrastructure, yes, you have to have ap support, adhoc, just share and go
[07:57] <oc__> anyways, i would like to connect to my home ubuntu box via tightvnc web applet, problem is i cant seem to get it working(using ssh to set it up) any ideas?
[07:57] <bluenzo> !grub
[07:57] <heaga> hi !
[07:58] <ZeroKewl> hi i got some file in my trash that will not delete there files that i rip off a window disk how i delete them
[07:58] <oc__> actually i would be happy with any hints on enabling rdp, vnc or anything else via remote terminal
[07:59] <heaga> I have some trouble with my DWA-547 802.11n wifi card
[07:59] <Frogzoo> oc__: ssh in & run vnc?
[08:00] <g4lt-lappy> oc__, if you're ssh'd in, why not just forward X over ssh?
[08:00] <oc__> what are the steps to doing so?
[08:01] <scowcron> hi. I'm looking for some help getting S-Video to work on my system. I'm running ubuntu 8.10 with an Nvidia 9800GT card, nvidia driver v177.82. when I've just got the monitor hooked up, I get through the loading screen and then the output dies when it hits the GDM (unusable signal on the TV). I get no output whether I try TwinView or Separate X configurations if I have another monitor hooked...
[08:01] <eqisow> same as normal ssh, just use ssh -X
[08:01] <scowcron> ...up. can anyone help?
[08:01] <g4lt-lappy> oc__, forwarding X?  ssh -X host
[08:01] <oc__> hmm
[08:01] <eqisow> the box you're ssh'ing into needs to have X installed, of course
[08:01] <grodius> hey whats the jaunty channel?
[08:01] <Flannel> grodius: #ubuntu+1
[08:02] <grodius> Flannel: thanks
[08:03] <ZeroKewl> i got it fixed
[08:03] <BlackDalek> I am trying to see if I can open an MS Access database in Kexi... when I try to import it is crashing and giving errors - "b5efe000-b5eff000 r-xp 0000KCrash: Application 'kexi' crashing...  Could not find 'drkonqi' executable.  KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly." ...then it exits
[08:04] <eqisow> BlackDalek: try another db program?
[08:04] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know what the crash error means?
[08:05] <Guest8517> hi @ all
[08:05] <Kimi> Guest8517 Hi
[08:06] <Guest8517> can someone tell me a channel for ubuntu in german please
[08:06] <Frogzoo> !de
[08:06] <noren_> !gr
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, honestly, I'd be using openoffice for jet stuff
[08:06] <Guest8517> much thx
[08:06] <g4lt-lappy> (jet is access's backend)
[08:07] <Kimi> in ms excel, type the numbers in all consecuttive cells and then in the last cell .. alt = will give the answer./. but cant do it in openOff
[08:07] <BlackDalek> tried open office... it just stalls.
[08:07] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, of course not, it's a different program.  I'm sure it can be done, you just have a differnt key combination
[08:07] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, thats what i want to know
[08:08] <raven> any firewall - i think UFW - always reactivates. how can i stop this and disable it FOREVER
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, is it loke office2009 or something, MS breaks stuff as a hobby :/
[08:08] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  plz dont direct me to another channeel
[08:08] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, well, there IS a openoffice channel, but honestly, I use openoffice very little and just knowthat it works every time I've used it
[08:09] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, not sure what version.. someone sent it to me. It is from maybe office 2007 on an XP laptop.
[08:09] <g4lt-lappy> of course, I have finger memory for Borland and lotus vice excel
[08:09] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, hmm, 2007 shoukld be integrated in new oo.o
[08:09] <androxoid1> Hiho, if got a problem with going full screen in games. When I start them my screen turns black and I get an "Analog - Out of Range - 80.8kHz / 65 Hz" Whereas the first number always changes to something between 80 and 85... anyone knows what could be the problem?
[08:10] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: turn your refresh rate down on your monitor
[08:11] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, my dad knows only excel .... in his office  they use excel and now he gets confused with OOO
[08:11] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: should find what the optimum refresh rate is and resolution
[08:11] <androxoid1> it is on 50Hz in the resolutionoptions
[08:11] <androxoid1> I only can go for 50, 51 and 107
[08:11] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: what about your game options?
[08:12] <androxoid1> I cant get there, it starts in full screen
[08:12] <androxoid1> I got the prob at SuperTux2 and Extreme Tux Racer
[08:12] <g4lt-lappy> andwait, 50?  you realize that's your most limiting for resolutions?
[08:12] <Kimi> does anyone know ?
[08:12] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: you haven't messed with any settings?
[08:12] <goodbyeWindows> hi all :-)
[08:12] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, Hi
[08:12] <androxoid1> nah, I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[08:12] <androxoid1> and then the games
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, your pic is very cool
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> installed Xubuntu, likingi ti so far
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> ...my pic?
[08:13] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, well I don't know... it's a mdb file and OOo Base just stalls and the window goes blank...
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  i mean,, your NICK :P
[08:13] <cemc> can you or can you not have java plugin on firefox 64bit in 8.10 ?
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> tehehe
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> heheh, thanks Kimi
[08:13] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, have you run file against it to ensure it IS a access database?
[08:13] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows, B-)
[08:13] <goodbyeWindows> yeah i had jack of windows, heard about this, so i read up on it
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> great so far, impressed that it picked up my wireless drivers!
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> no luck on the Ethernet side tho, which is weird
[08:14] <Kimi> i want a real inspiring game like age of empire 3 in ubuntu....
[08:14] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: what do you have for a video card? Are there proprietor   drivers for your card
[08:14] <goodbyeWindows> probably something stupid i'm doing
[08:14] <g4lt-lappy> cemc, I don't see why not.  they make 64-bit java, and they make 64-bit firefox, they SHOULD play nice together
[08:14] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  why dont you type them all in one line ? ;)
[08:14] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, freeciv/freecol
[08:14] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I don't know what you mean, but I know it is an access database file.
[08:15] <oc__> alright, worked, thanks yall
[08:15] <goodbyeWindows> haha, sorry about that
[08:15] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: its the nVidia proprietor drivers
[08:15] <Kimi> !ask > goodbyeWindows
[08:15] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, file <file> checks the magic number inside the file to determine what type of file it is
[08:15] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  i saw their screenshots and ran away.. do you think its similar to AOE3 ?
[08:15] <goodbyeWindows> right, thanks Kimi, sorry about that, new to all this
[08:15] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: Did you enable the proprietor drivers for your card?
[08:16] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: yes, the recommended one
[08:16] <goodbyeWindows> how do i do that o0Chris0o?
[08:16] <Kimi> goodbyeWindows,  no sorry :D
[08:16] <Nalf> If you have a radeon 4850HD on 8.10 don't do it!:P
[08:16] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it doesent work..can any1 help me
[08:16] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, no, i think they're better, since they're based off sid meier games vice AoE's god-only-knows-who
[08:16] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: androxoid1 hmmm
[08:16] <eqisow> goodbyeWindows: general advice, if you have issues or there are things you don't like about Xubuntu, pick up another distro. Choice is one of the wonderful thing about the Linux world. Hope you stay with us. :)
[08:17] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: are you having problems loading your drivers for it?
[08:17] <g4lt-lappy> and there was also a loki port of civ:CtP
[08:17] <goodbyeWindows> haha, thanks eqisow, oh it's not an issue yet really, sure there's something i can do to fix it
[08:17] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, it outputs "file V1.mdb: Microsoft Access Database"
[08:17] <Nalf> HammerHead66, installing drivers in 8.10 for my card totally destroys x.
[08:17] <goodbyeWindows> just thought i'd seek the wisdom of IRC
[08:17] <Kimi> eqisow, you are trying to send a new linux user ? :P :P :D: P
[08:17] <Nalf> HammerHead66, from what I have read there is a bug in ati's driver and it has issues with the version of x that is released in 8.10.
[08:17] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: check this out it will help you ok   http://paste.ubuntu.com/138785/
[08:18] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it does'nt work..can any1 help me??
[08:18] <eqisow> goodbyeWindows: by the way, I think there's a xubuntu specific channel.
[08:18] <goodbyeWindows> oh really, thanks eqisow
[08:19] <o0Chris0o> !xubuntu | goodbyeWindows
[08:19] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, okay, it is a access file.  well, that's no very nice of it to not be openable in OO.o :(.  have you tried anything else other than koffice and oo.o?
[08:19] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: I have had this problem too. But I fixed it.
[08:19] <goodbyeWindows> im not sure if it's a xubuntu specific problem, but yeah, my Ethernet doesn't seem to want to chat to my router
[08:19] <Nalf> HammerHead66, doing that doesn't fix it for me. :P I've done it before.
[08:19] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o: Im using a GeForce 6600 if that helps
[08:19] <Nalf> HammerHead66, do you have radeon hd 4850?
[08:19] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I only got it this afternoon. tried only OOo Base and Kexi.
[08:20] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: you have to follow the directions or it will not work.......Not any other way none......please try it befor you say it doesn't work
[08:20] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: I'm not sure what else to tell you, if your range settings are correct, I'm not sure what else could be the problem
[08:20] <voldermot> After i installed nvidia cuda...my X crashed...even though i had a backup of xorg.conf...it does'nt work..can any1 help me??
[08:20] <bS\S0ck3tz> .
[08:20] <androxoid1> o0Chris0o:  where can I find those range settings?
[08:20] <voldermot> shd i have to maintain a back up for any other files?
[08:21] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: try asking in #xorg they may be able to help you
[08:21] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, have you messed with mdbtools?  apparently they're a set of tools to get a jet database to play nice in linux
[08:21] <Nalf> HammerHead66, I've done that exact process before. I tried virtually _everything_ I could think of, thanks.
[08:21] <androxoid1> alright thanks
[08:21]  * g4lt-lappy hasn't used them, TBH
[08:21] <o0Chris0o> androxoid1: have to google the make and model and serial number to see if you can find a match to find the specs
[08:21] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I've never heard of any such tool.
[08:21] <Nalf> HammerHead66, no matter what when I try to load x always spits out a 'no screens found' error.
[08:21] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, it's a package.  sudo apt-get install mdbtools
[08:22] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: you you have went into terminal exactly like I have said not any other way right?
[08:22] <goodbyeWindows> hehe ok guys, cheers for all your advice, if i have trouble, i might try straight ubuntu then get into all the flavours when im more versed in it haha
[08:22] <zimnyx> I have badblocks on disk (200 or above) found by `badblocks <device>`. While googling I've found information that badblock -w (write-mode) will force harddrive to internally fix badblocks using special free area of disk left for that purpose. Has anybody done that?
[08:22] <BlackDalek> installing it now....
[08:22] <ziroday> zimnyx: isn't fsck meant to fix badblocks?
[08:22] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, DISCLAIMER: I got this via apt-cache search, I have NFI what programs aare involved or how weloll they work
[08:23] <Nalf> HammerHead66: yes.
[08:23] <florin> hi all
[08:23] <voldermot> ziroday:yeah only for ext3 filesystems
[08:23] <ziroday> g4lt-lappy: please don't swear, even in acronyms
[08:23] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, ok.
[08:23] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: then ATI drivers for that card are not  ready yet for ubuntu to work
[08:23] <ziroday> voldermot: oh, is zimnyx not using ext3?
[08:23] <Nalf> HammerHead66, that's what I said, thanks.
[08:23] <zimnyx> ziroday: i'm using ext3
[08:24] <voldermot> ziroday: agreed..:P
[08:24] <ziroday> zimnyx: then why not use fsck?
[08:24] <ziroday> zimnyx: that's the recommended way to go around fixing bad blocks/drives playing up
[08:24] <zimnyx> ziroday: but e2fsck -c will mark damaged area, and I'm talking about disk-internal-fixing.
[08:24] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: I only say it that way because people go diffrent ways in terminal and it doesn't work any other way than I have said and people that think they know it all say terminal is terminal so they don't try it.
[08:25] <balrog__> how would i update a ubuntu install from a livecd?
[08:25] <bazhang> balrog__, the live is also an installer cd
[08:25] <BlackDalek> g4lt-lappy, I installed mdbtools.... now what?
[08:25] <ziroday> zimnyx: that should all be in fsck, reboot into the recovery area, or from a livecd and just fsck the entire drive, it should repair bad blocks as well
[08:25] <bazhang> balrog__, update from alternate only
[08:25] <balrog__> how would i update a broken ubuntu install from a livecd?
[08:26] <ziroday> balrog__: you can update with the livecd, only reinstall
[08:26] <BlackDalek> how do I launch mdbtools or whatever....
[08:26] <zimnyx> ziroday: it's not root partiotion, no need of livecd
[08:27] <g4lt-lappy> BlackDalek, dpkg -l will tell you what got installed.  go through the manpages for the individual programs and see if anything may give you some light, like maybe convert it to something mysql o koffice/oo.o can read
[08:27] <zimnyx> ziroday: so you don't know the answer to my initial question, do you?
[08:27] <ziroday> zimnyx: then just run sudo fsck /dev/whatever
[08:27] <BlackDalek> ok
[08:27] <zimnyx> ziroday: does it check for badblock without -c option?
[08:27] <ziroday> zimnyx: it should do
[08:27] <zimnyx> I cannot see it in manual
[08:28] <zimnyx> ziroday: are you guessing?
[08:28] <ziroday> zimnyx: well I did this procedure a couple of days ago and it worked :)
[08:29] <ziroday> zimnyx: and from what I can interpret from man fsck it will fix bad blocks
[08:29] <nftyw_L> Arrrgh
[08:29] <zimnyx> ziroday: have you badblocks on this device?
[08:29] <voldermot> zimnyx: y wud u want to identify where ur bad blocks are..fsck /dev/ur disk will repair the bad blocks...wudn dat do?
[08:29] <ziroday> zimnyx: yes
[08:29] <nftyw_L> Okay, so I hit alt f2 to get to the command line, put in 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' and.... nothing happens
[08:29] <sexcopter> hi, how can i find what package a binary originates from?
[08:29] <zimnyx> voldermot: so what's the purpiose of -c option?
[08:30] <ziroday> zimnyx: just make sure you do fsck /dev/whatever instead of e2fsck /dev/whatever
[08:30] <ziroday> zimnyx: the -c option is used when you don't want the bad blocks to be repaired, just recorded
[08:31] <HammerHead66>  Nalf: Hay sorry I have step three wrong  don't restart at that time wait til the install is complete ok
[08:32] <kalidar> does anyone know of a easy to use nice graphical bootloader?
[08:32] <ziroday> kalidar: grub?
[08:32] <kalidar> grub is plain
[08:32] <nftyw_L> see easy to use
[08:32] <kalidar> anything else out their?
[08:32] <kalidar> i ment easy to install
[08:32] <kalidar> actualy
[08:33] <nftyw_L> Actually right now the issue is less grub and more why isn't sudo gedit working
[08:33] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, that's a non-trivial question.  I can't remember any tools that will go from file to package, but many that go from package to file
[08:33] <ziroday> kalidar: well its not going to do much as it  can't start the graphics drivers. You're never going to get animations/transparency or whatever. You can change the grub background image if you want. Also changing bootloaders is a dangerous action no matter what you replace it with
[08:34] <voldermot> i installed an api and it edited my xorg.conf....as a result my x fails to load..
[08:34] <kalidar> oh sad :( i liked the fedora graphical bootloader better
[08:34] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, TBH, the answer may be "rephrase what you want to do in a more doable form"
[08:34] <kalidar> and i could change the name of the drive i was conecting to aswell
[08:34] <ziroday> kalidar: err I'm pretty sure fedora is using grub
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: what is the problem ?
[08:34] <nemera> hi all
[08:34] <kalidar> no problen
[08:34] <ziroday> ikonia: he wants a prettier bootloader
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: as I told you in #kubuntu grub is a graphical boot loader - what more graphical do you want
[08:34] <kalidar> i just wana change my bootloader a bit
[08:34] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: interesting. i imagine it's something that people could make use of a lot, and it shouldn't be *that* hard
[08:34] <ikonia> kalidar: in what way ?
[08:34] <nftyw_L> Argh!  What happened to this OS?  I can't even get sudo to work now
[08:35] <ikonia> nftyw_L: what is the error
[08:35] <kalidar> like how i change the backround
[08:35] <ziroday> nftyw_L: errors?
[08:35] <g4lt-lappy> kal0, it's just grub.  you should be able to do evertyhing with ubuntu's grub you can with fedora's
[08:35] <kalidar> it wont let me
[08:35] <voldermot> i installed an api and it edited my xorg.conf....as a result my x fails to load..
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: what ar eyou trying to do
[08:35] <voldermot> can any one help me?
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: be specific
[08:35] <nftyw_L> There is no error I hit alt f2, put in sudo gedit and hit run and nothing happens
[08:35] <kalidar> change the backround
[08:35] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: well, i'm just curious what package provided "hp-systray", of course the name gives some hints
[08:35] <nemera> anybody can tell me how work ubuntu on a dual xeon 3.06ghz monocore server ?
[08:35] <ikonia> voldermot: if you ask a question
[08:35] <rww> nftyw_L: for a start, you should be using gksudo, not sudo, for gedit.
[08:35] <kalidar> to a immage
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: ok - so you need to install the splash-images package
[08:35] <kalidar> ok finaly :) thats all i wanted
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: you can't just use any image it has to be in a specific size / format
[08:35] <zimnyx> ziroday: thanks for your help (btw I have't know that e2fsck and fsck are different commands)
[08:35] <kalidar> how i get that
[08:35] <ikonia> kalidar: open the package manager and install it
[08:35] <kalidar> splash image package
[08:35] <nftyw_L> gragrgh
[08:36] <nftyw_L> ok, that worked, thanks.
[08:36] <kalidar> is called splash immage package
[08:36] <ikonia> kalidar: if you search for "grub" in the package manager you'll see the boot images
[08:36] <kalidar> ok thanks guys
[08:36] <ikonia> kalidar: search the repo and you'll see the correct name
[08:36] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, not drawing anything from memory herebut sounds like it's part of gnome-applets
[08:36] <rww> nftyw_L: you're welcome
[08:36] <voldermot> ikonia: i had a back up of xorg.conf...i copied it into xorg.conf...even then my x doesnt work..wat do i do?
[08:36] <nftyw_L> I assume gksu is shorthand for gksudo?
[08:36] <kalidar> kk
[08:36] <alphageek> how to delete old kernel images?
[08:36] <ikonia> voldermot: what's the problem
[08:36] <rww> nftyw_L: no, but on Ubuntu they do the same thing
[08:36] <ikonia> alphageek: just remove them from the package manager
[08:36] <oospunkey> anybody know why my windows shares folder in my network samba window is empty when I know windows has folders set to shared?
[08:36] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, sort of.  different interfaces to the same program
[08:36] <Frogzoo> alphageek: dpkg --purge image-###
[08:36] <voldermot> no graphical display..i am only able to use the konsole..:(
[08:36] <nftyw_L> Ergh.  What a pain
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: so what video card do you have ?
[08:37] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: actually, if memory serves, it appeared after installing kubuntu-desktop (was an ubuntu install), so i'd say it's a kde package, or something hp
[08:37] <voldermot> how do i kno tht?
[08:37] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: don't worry, it isn't important and i'll have a quick look
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: you bought the machine -
[08:37] <nftyw_L> Hooray!  I can edit and save a file!
[08:37]  * nftyw_L sets off celebratory fireworks
[08:37] <ikonia> voldermot: lspci will show you the pci devices (including the video card)
[08:37] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, not really, it's akin to vi and view, view is just vi -r
[08:37] <nftyw_L> Ugh there is no way in hell I am using vi
[08:38] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: found it, it's in hplip
[08:38] <g4lt-lappy> sexcopter, cool! just luck, or did you do a bit o greppage?
[08:38] <voldermot> nvidia geforce 8400M gs
[08:39] <voldermot> is that wat u asked?i dunno..
[08:39] <nemera> i m seeking to create a webserver /webmail machine and would like to know what kind of ubuntu to use, the machine will be a dual cpu xeon (P4 type ) is this will be good enough?
[08:39] <ikonia> voldermot: ok - so I suspect the issue is with not using the correct restricted drivers. I suggest you remove you're xorg.conf file totally, and restart X, it will try to use a failsafe mode which will allow you an X11 gui to then fix your problems
[08:39] <sexcopter> g4lt-lappy: educated search/guess
[08:39] <ikonia> nemera: ubuntu desktop 8.04, or 8.10
[08:39] <g4lt-lappy> nfc, no, but it's the easiest thing I could think of that had two filenames that did different things depending on how called.  other examples are gzip -D and gzcat
[08:39] <nemera> ikonia: 64bits or 32 bits ?
[08:39] <voldermot> ikonia: ok,thanks..:)
[08:39] <ikonia> nemera: does your cpu's support 64bit ? not all xeons do
[08:39] <g4lt-lappy> nftyw_L, ^^^^
[08:40] <alphageek> so all I have to do is go to synaptic and right click on  "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.27-9-generic" and right click and mark for removal?
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: yes
[08:40] <nemera> ikonia: haven t buy the comp actually but yes emt64 is one of my request for it :)
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: the kenel is just a package like any other
[08:40] <nftyw_L> Hmm.
[08:40] <ikonia> nemera: then use what ever one you want
[08:40] <ikonia> nemera: if you've got 4GB of ram - use 64bit, if you've not it doesn't really matter that much
[08:40] <alphageek> and what about the headers for the same version?
[08:40] <ikonia> alphageek: it's just a package
[08:41] <nftyw_L> If I'm trying to get grub to dual-boot to a win 98 install, and it's giving me an error 13, what's the most likely thing I failed to check?
[08:41] <ikonia> alphageek: thats the point of a package manager
[08:41] <voldermot> ikonia:isnt dat equivalent to copying xorg.conf failsafe into xorg.conf?
[08:41] <nemera> ikonia: thanks friend
[08:41] <ikonia> nftyw_L: voldermot no
[08:41] <floryn> is there any player for render .swf movies extension? (no firefox)
[08:41] <ubuntu_> okay...
[08:41] <bluenzo> ugh
[08:41] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, many.  flashplayer is the obvious one, but there's others
[08:42] <bluenzo> im grub got deleted after stalling windows... but !grub doesnt work lol
[08:42] <bluenzo> i get error 17
[08:42] <voldermot> ikonia: ok..
[08:42] <ikonia> bluenzo: that meants it's pointing at the wrong partition
[08:42] <zimnyx> ziroday: btw, what number of badsectors have you found?
[08:42] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, ok so i will find flashplayer in synaptic manager than/
[08:42] <alphageek> ikonia: thanks..was a little bit conservative to delete a kernel.But as you said its just a package explains it all
[08:43] <bluenzo> ikonia: so im typing the setup command wrong?
[08:43] <ziroday> zimnyx: I honestly can't remember. I know it was after a failed gparted edit and I just ran fsck /path/to/drive and it fixed it all up
[08:43] <ikonia> bluenzo: yes,
[08:43] <bluenzo> my friend told me to just type setup (hd0)
[08:43] <bluenzo> how do I know which one im supossed to use?
[08:43] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, I think it's in multiverse, but yeah
[08:43] <bluenzo> lemme re-check the site
[08:43] <bluenzo> !grub
[08:43] <g4lt-lappy> (well, the installer)
[08:44] <voldermot> ikonia: it works...thanks..u are the man..:)
[08:44] <ikonia> voldermot: I know this ;) - I'm kdding, no problem
[08:44] <bluenzo> ikonia: on the recover ubuntu pae, it says type "setup (hd0)" tho
[08:45] <voldermot> ikonia: haha..
[08:45] <kataklysm54> ya t-il une chaine francaise?
[08:45] <ikonia> bluenzo: assuming your ubuntu partition is (hd0)
[08:45] <alphageek> is there a way to clone the filesystem.My eventual goal is to make permanent restore points.
[08:45] <ikonia> bluenzo: and it's the root parameter - not the setup parameter you need to change
[08:45] <bluenzo> ikonia: well im not sure, i have a 640GB HDD and 40GB HDD, vista on the 640GB and ubuntu on the 40GB
[08:45] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, i will install swfdc-gnome
[08:45] <ikonia> alphageek: dd takes a block for block copy
[08:45] <bluenzo> how do I find out which is which?
[08:45] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, thank you for the help
[08:46] <kataklysm54> quelqu'un peut til m'aider?
[08:46] <g4lt-lappy> floryn, that's one of the many, yes :)
[08:46] <ikonia> bluenzo: it is most likley root (hd1,0)  and setup (hd0)
[08:46] <voldermot> bluenzo: fdisk /dev/sda or hda ..whichever urs is..
[08:46] <floryn> g4lt-lappy, yes :)
[08:46] <bazhang> !fr | kataklysm54
[08:47] <bluenzo> ikonia: can you run me through it? im on ubunru right now
[08:47] <ikonia> bluenzo: root (hd1,0) setup (hd0)
[08:47] <bluenzo> ok
[08:48] <bluenzo> ikonia: i believe thats what i typed last time
[08:48] <zimnyx> ziroday: thanks for your time
[08:48] <bluenzo> i just did the "find /boot/grub/stage1" and it gave hd1,0
[08:48] <ikonia> bluenzo: how many partitions do you have on your ubuntu drive
[08:49] <bluenzo> one total
[08:49] <ikonia> bluenzo: no swap partition ?
[08:49] <bluenzo> i have two physical drives, one partition each
[08:49] <bluenzo> oh it might be worth saying, one is sata, one is IDE
[08:49] <bluenzo> if that matters
[08:49] <ikonia> nope doesn't matter
[08:49] <bluenzo> ikonia: i dont know what you mean by swap partition
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: I'd double check then, re-try root (hd1,0) and then setup (hd0)
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: make sure you do root firt
[08:50] <ikonia> first
[08:50] <bluenzo> ya im in root
[08:50] <ikonia> I didn't say be in root
[08:50] <ikonia> I said use the root command first
[08:50] <bluenzo> i know i did su
[08:50] <ikonia> once you are in the gub shell
[08:50] <bluenzo> i meant that first :P
[08:50] <ikonia> bluenzo: how did you do, su, ubuntu has no root passwod ?
[08:50] <bluenzo> su then pass, then grub
[08:50] <bluenzo> sudo passwd
[08:51] <ikonia> bluenzo: if you're doing things like that - you should know what you're doing
[08:51] <bluenzo> my friend told me :P
[08:51] <bluenzo> LOL
[08:51] <ikonia> bluenzo: then ask your friend
[08:51] <bluenzo> he doesnt know about that error
[08:51] <bluenzo> i tried...i think he went afk
[08:51] <ikonia> wow - so following his advice may not be the best way to go
[08:51] <bluenzo> lol
[08:51] <g4lt-lappy> !root
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do the following
[08:52] <bluenzo> ROFL @ that
[08:52] <bluenzo> the matrix
[08:52] <bluenzo> im doing root (hd1,0) right now
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: 1.) "sudo grub"
[08:52] <bluenzo> k ill start over
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: nah, thats fine
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do root (hd1,0)
[08:52] <ikonia> bluenzo: do you get any errors or warnings
[08:52] <bluenzo> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# grub
[08:52] <bluenzo>  <---im already root right?
[08:53] <bluenzo> no errors, just returned to grub>
[08:53] <ikonia> yes you are
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: ok, now setup (hd0)
[08:53] <bluenzo> k done
[08:53] <bluenzo> no errors
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: quit
[08:53] <bluenzo> 16 sectors are embedded....succeeded etc..
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: sounds good
[08:53] <bluenzo> done
[08:53] <ikonia> bluenzo: reboot
[08:54] <alphageek> is this the right syntax "dd if=fbackup of=/ bs=?"
[08:54] <g4lt-lappy> seriously, with any decent modern operating system, root is rather superfluous. it has to be there as a role and possibly a user, but if you shouldn;t ever log in as root to a modern OS
[08:54] <bluenzo> k...btw i installed xchat-gnome
[08:54] <ikonia> alphageek: no
[08:54] <bluenzo> is there  afster way to ge tback here?
[08:54] <bluenzo> lol
[08:54] <ikonia> bluenzo: one thing at a time
[08:54] <bluenzo> well if it doesnt work
[08:54] <bluenzo> how do i get back, unless this is the fastest way
[08:54] <ikonia> bluenzo: no there isn't
[08:54] <g4lt-lappy> alphageek, that will write over / with the contents of fbackup.  if that's what you want, go for it, it will urt though
[08:54] <bluenzo> k brb
[08:56] <Iowahc> anyone knows about skype development? how far they are?
[08:57] <Xavierg2003> Can anyone give me a reason not to shoot myself in the head right now?
[08:57] <ikonia> Xavierg2003: I can give you a reason to not make silly random comments like that
[08:57] <g4lt-lappy> Xavierg2003, it will be messy?
[08:57] <o0Chris0o> Xavierg2003: yup, we love you
[08:57] <bazhang> !ot | Xavierg2003
[08:57] <ikonia> Xavierg2003: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[08:57] <o0Chris0o> oops
[08:58] <Xavierg2003> ikonia thanks for your help. Chris you don't love me and lappy i am in the bathtub so it would all drain down the drain
[08:58] <g4lt-lappy> ionstorm, you can install skype on ubuntu right now
[08:58] <g4lt-lappy> Iowahc, ^^^^
[08:58] <Kimi> a broser other than mozilla , flock for ubuntu ?????
[08:58] <bazhang> Iowahc, ask on the skype forums
[08:58] <Kimi> *browser
[08:59] <Xavierg2003> thanks for the reasoning anyway
[08:59] <bazhang> !opera | Kimi
[08:59] <ikonia> Kimi: flock for ubuntu ?
[08:59] <Kimi> ikonia,  have flock for ubuntu
[08:59] <ikonia> Kimi: I have no idea what flock is
[08:59] <g4lt-lappy> kimi epiphany ;)
[09:00] <Kimi> bazhang, i dont want opera
[09:00] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ok i will try ./ is it in synpatic ?
[09:00] <bazhang> Kimi, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:00] <ikonia> Kimi: searach the package manager for web browsers you will see the options, try them see what you like
[09:00] <voldermot> kimi: epiphany
[09:00] <g4lt-lappy> kimi should be
[09:00] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy,  ok../
[09:01] <ob1> anybody know how to set ubuntu to connect windows network
[09:01] <Iowahc> bazhang, g4lt-lappy: skype Forum doesn't respond ;)
[09:01] <Iowahc> ignoring me ;)
[09:01] <voldermot> ob1: install samba
[09:01] <Kimi> my firefox wont send downloads to gwget
[09:01] <o0Chris0o> !samba | ob1
[09:01] <bazhang> Iowahc, it has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[09:01] <Iowahc> k
[09:01] <g4lt-lappy> by the time i got the round tuit to installl epiphany, my sources.list was a bit....complicated.  don't remember what was actually in universe or multiverse anymore :/
[09:02] <Kimi> when click downloadlinks from firefox.. it wont send to gwget.../
[09:02] <ob1> thanks I will try it out
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: firefox downloads using it's onwn system
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: as do most browsers
[09:02] <Kimi> ikonia, i want it to send it to gwget
[09:02] <Kimi> is it possible ?
[09:02] <ikonia> Kimi: I don't think so
[09:03] <Kimi> then who ?
[09:03] <ikonia> then who what ?
[09:03] <Iowahc> Kimi: you got a Download with: option when you want to download?
[09:03] <ikonia> Iowahc: do you ? where ?
[09:03] <Kimi> with: ooption ????? what is it ?
[09:03] <Kimi> Iowahc,  ?
[09:03] <ikonia> Iowahc: I thought you get "save to", or "open with"
[09:03] <g4lt-lappy> Kimi, right-click, "copy location", paste in gwget
[09:04] <Iowahc> Kimi, ikonia: I got a Save to: Open with: Download with: option
[09:04] <Iowahc> Kimi: what firefox version are you using?
[09:04] <Kimi> but what if its from mediafire site ?
[09:04] <shrini> Hi, I downloaded 9.04 alpha 6 and installed
[09:04] <Kimi> g4lt-lappy, you cant do that in mediafire
[09:04] <shrini> it is too slow even in 2 GB RAM
[09:04] <bazhang> shrini, #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:04] <ubuntu_> didnt work
[09:04] <bluenzo> lol