[00:00] <gosse> i just did the apt-get kdm, do i use gdm now? do i use kdm now?
[00:00] <gosse> -tear-
[00:00] <Exposure> amgarchIn9, go to wallet settings in control panel
[00:00] <rbrunhuber> gosse: AFAIR you should be asked which you want to use.
[00:00] <amgarchIn9> Exposure: I am in gnome again, KDE is broken
[00:01] <Exposure> well yeah seems it's still far from perfect
[00:01] <gosse> it says above he was quit for bed
[00:02] <Exposure> the thing is, for years now, when I take a look at the IRC channels, forum, the same problems are mentioned again and again: X resolution and wireless network
[00:03] <mermshaus> Exposure: Add bluetooth to the list. ;)
[00:04] <Exposure> yeah that too, but less exposure since it's not used by everybody
[00:04] <drbobb> hmm plasma does not notice that the wallpaper image file has changed
[00:04] <Exposure> and now they've added the dontzap nonsense instead of spending time on fixing X video drivers and wireless user-friendlyness
[00:05] <drbobb> kdesktop used to update the background with a small delay
[00:06] <gosse> after crtll + alt + f1 to the command prompt to install the apt-get kdm stuff... and it is not running (the .pid file is not found) and then SH (driver name), it tells me i'm STILL running x-server
[00:06] <Exposure> ** (nm-applet:6658): WARNING **: <WARN>  applet_dbus_manager_start_service(): Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken.  Return: 3
[00:06] <Exposure> :(
[00:06] <slacker_> Hey need some help, how do i add Quakenet to server list ?
[00:07] <W4gn3r> can someone tell me what are the differences between OpenJDK and Sun's JDK? cause I want to install netbeans, through apt-get it'll use OpenJDK.
[00:07] <gosse> can anyone help me?
[00:07] <W4gn3r> the official one uses Sun's JDK
[00:07] <mermshaus> slacker_:  Eh, blind guess: File > Networks > Configure >Add
[00:08] <mermshaus> slacker_: should be in the dropdown box
[00:08] <Exposure> yay gnome's nm-applet works
[00:09] <mermshaus> slacker_: forget that. I assumed you used Quassel. :)
[00:10] <slacker_> Hey need some help, how do i add Quakenet to server list ?
[00:10] <lovre> what is the coolest dock for kubuntu (kde4), osx style?
[00:10] <lovre> slacker_: are you using ktorrent?
[00:10] <slacker_> konversation xD ( i'm new to linux )
[00:11] <pepperjack> assumed you were a slackware user that had seen the light ;p
[00:11] <slacker_> -_-
[00:11] <lovre> slacker_: ye, i ment konversation, i dont know why i wrote that
[00:12] <lovre> File-> server list -> New
[00:12] <lovre> slacker_: ^^
[00:12] <slacker_> hehe yea and just type www.quakenet.com ?
[00:12] <mermshaus> more like irc.quakenet.org
[00:12] <slacker_> sorry :P
[00:13] <gosse> how do i exist tty1
[00:13] <slacker_> it worked!! Great Success
[00:14] <Exposure> nm-applet saves the day
[00:14] <jussi01> gosse: ctrl+alt + f7
[00:14] <gosse> cool thanks. i still have that problem with x-server though
[00:18] <gosse> how do i switch GDM to KDM
[00:18] <faileas_asleep> sudo apt-get install KDM
[00:18] <faileas_asleep> it'll take care of the rest
[00:18] <gosse> i have it installed, just running GDM atm
[00:18] <chx> if you want to switch to kubuntu fully
[00:18] <gosse> oh, alright
[00:18] <chx> then just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[00:18] <Exposure> gosse, rc-update gdm remove
[00:19] <Exposure> eh update-rc.d gdm remove
[00:19] <gosse> i'll bbs, thanks all.
[00:24] <gigasoft> how can i make kde-start menu to appear-blurr
[00:25] <gigasoft> and be transparent
[00:25] <gigasoft> ?
[00:25] <gigasoft> any help?
[00:30] <bbeck> gigasoft: I don't know about blur, but you need to enable desktop effects to get the transparency.
[00:31] <gigasoft> ok
[00:31]  * Froad whams wubi
[00:31] <gigasoft> but where
[00:32] <nysin> I've using kubuntu 9.04 (amd64) with a fresh install since its beta. Actually worked perfectly fine for a while. At some point hard freezes started occuring. No clear pattern - idle vs load, asleep vs not, disk activity vs no, it's not (to me) some obvious or constant amount of uptime, etc. So, question: how might I troubleshoot this?
[00:33] <nysin> 8.04 and 8.10 never had this problem
[00:34] <linux-hdtv> In Dolphin, how can i select a group of files by clicking on the first and then the last of the selection ?
[00:34] <linux-hdtv> nysin, did you file a bug report ?
[00:34] <nysin> ah, no.
[00:38] <mrksbrd> is ubuntu studio edition a supported release?
[00:39] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: click the plus sign on the first one you want to select, hold down the shift, and click on the last icon you want to select.
[00:39] <bokey> what package provides libkephal ?
[00:41] <bokey> what package provides libkephal.so thought it was kdebase
[00:41] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: ok, I have noticed one weird thing you can only do that once.  If you deslect the icons by clicking on an open area of the pane dolphin won't let you select that way again.  Can you confirm this behavior on you system?
[00:42] <nysin> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libkephal&mode=filename&suite=jaunty&arch=any
[00:42] <nysin> bokey ^^^
[00:42] <bokey> ahh :) thanks nysin
[00:43] <mrksbrd> is ubuntu studio edition a supported release?
[00:44] <nysin> apparently not, depending on your terminology, it's "recognized", but not "supported": http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/derivatives
[00:45] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, going to try again. Dolphin is very slow on dir with 4000 files, unresponsive for 20 seconds while moving 300 of them.
[00:45] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: I'll bet it is.  That sounds like a task better suited for the command line.
[00:46] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, i am with kubuntu so i don't need the cli.
[00:46] <mrksbrd> nysin: ty
[00:46] <bbeck> linux-hdtv: lol
[00:46] <linux-hdtv> selecting a group of files with shift pressed has weird behaviour.
[00:47] <linux-hdtv> again when i tried now, first it deselects the first file when i click plus of the last file.
[00:47] <MushroomKingdom> Has anyone figured out how to make transparent windows? I downloaded all my video drivers but still no transparent support!
[00:48] <pepperjack> MushroomKingdom: are you really that in love with your wallpaper?
[00:48] <kya> Where is system>apppearence or something that replace kcontrol in Kubun 9.04, thanks?
[00:48] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[00:48] <MushroomKingdom> :3
[00:49] <MushroomKingdom> That and I dont like staring at the black :(
[00:49] <MushroomKingdom> It sees into my soul O_O
[00:50] <linux-hdtv> bbeck, the behaviour with selecting even single files is very erratic in my Dolphin.
[00:51] <nysin> I still haven't figured out what precisely the target box is for the '+' overlaid on the upper-left of the icons - with reasonable frequency I still manage to actually launch the file.
[00:52] <MushroomKingdom> And ideas pepper?
[00:57] <linux-hdtv> nysin, maybe a moving target :-)
[00:58] <linux-hdtv> why could Dolphin not remain responsive during a copy operation ? multithreading ?
[00:59] <esdaniel> kya: apperance is in "system setttings" - to get there quickly do Alt-F2 and type "systemsettings"
[00:59] <gigasoft> i want to force delete folder how can i do it in terminal?
[00:59] <kya> Thanks I was trying kcontrol ;)
[01:00] <esdaniel> gigasoft: rm -r
[01:00] <gigasoft> thanks
[01:00] <esdaniel> do "man rm" to check what you're doing before you get started though
[01:00] <linux-hdtv> very confusing also the progress window for a copy operation, is there a way to see the total progress instead of just the timeline for the file being copied ?
[01:01] <nysin> also, it can be helpful to put the -r (or -rf as you may end up using) after the filenames/directory names to delete - less chance of inadvertent prefix-sharing mistakes there.
[01:01] <gigasoft> /home/gigasoft/tmp
[01:02] <linux-hdtv> Dolphin uses 50% of my AMD dual core cpu from last year.
[01:02] <gigasoft> Permission denied
[01:02] <gigasoft> :(
[01:02] <gosse> alright, back... what is the difference between the KDM and the GDM?
[01:02] <linux-hdtv> just for a copy operation.
[01:02] <gigasoft> force delete folder /home/gigasoft/tmp
[01:03] <gigasoft> any help
[01:03] <gigasoft> ?
[01:03] <esdaniel> gigasoft - tmp is often used as a resource directory
[01:03] <esdaniel> i.e. why do you want to delete it?
[01:03] <gigasoft> just tell me?
[01:03] <atraylen> gigasoft - you probably want to leave it alone...
[01:03] <gigasoft> how can i do it?
[01:03] <esdaniel> the reason you can't delete it is because it has permissions set
[01:03] <gigasoft> yes
[01:04] <esdaniel> use the command "chown" to reassign permissions
[01:04] <esdaniel> oops ownership
[01:04] <esdaniel> and chmod for perms
[01:04] <gigasoft> give me an example, please
[01:04] <atraylen> gigasoft - http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=permissions+and+chown+&btnG=Google+Search
[01:04] <esdaniel> he's got a point ;-)
[01:04] <gigasoft> thanks
[01:05] <esdaniel> you might need to elevate priviledge in order to change ownership or perm
[01:05] <esdaniel> use "sudo" for that
[01:06] <jimmie_bO> me again, ... Prob: no sound after Jaunty KDE3 rmx install. Could that be because of ALSA thing?!
[01:06] <jimmie_bO> flollowed that !sound description and the FAQ about that.
[01:06] <atraylen> Anybody with Nvidia cards upgrade to Jaunty?  Any problems?
[01:06] <gosse> atraylen
[01:06] <gosse> i've had HUGE problems
[01:06] <esdaniel> which backend is configured ? gstreamer or xine?
[01:07] <esdaniel> jmmie ^^^
[01:07] <jimmie_bO> xine
[01:07] <atraylen> gosse - I am downloading the alternate install cd right now... to attempt the upgrade
[01:07] <jimmie_bO> Xine 0.2.60
[01:07] <atraylen> gosse - what kind of problems?
[01:07] <gosse> i downloaded the disk last night, flattened my drive and installed fresh... as long as you want nothing fancy, it should work fine. Nvidia 8600
[01:08] <gosse> KDE is so much more like windows than GDM it's scary :|
[01:09] <jimmie_bO> the hardware driver test was ok, there is sound coming out of my stereo
[01:10] <jimmie_bO> basically through my HDA Intel (ALC861 Analog) hardware ...
[01:10] <MushroomKingdom> :( apt-get thinks im installing things but I'm not
[01:10] <gosse> how do i stop the xserver again? running KDE now if that helps
[01:11] <jimmie_bO> the 2nd device "PulseAudio" isn't working right, so it's switching automatically over to the HDA!
[01:11] <gosse> correction, how do i make KDM my default display manager?
[01:13] <esdaniel> jimmie, did you try making the HDA default for playback
[01:13] <kya> Another question. Fonts en the menus and tabs of firefox are too big and they are not changed on system settings. Any clue?
[01:13] <linux-hdtv> jimmie_bO, did kde4 crash too often or was it too slow ?
[01:13] <linux-hdtv> MushroomKingdom, reboot
[01:14] <kya> Solved.  If you like using graphical tools to manipulate root-owned files you can fire up Nautilus as root by using:
[01:15] <gigasoft> Code:
[01:15] <gigasoft> gksu nautilus
[01:15] <jimmie_bO> faaaaaaar to slow :D
[01:15] <gigasoft> done the job
[01:15] <gigasoft> :)
[01:15] <linux-hdtv> gosse, try as root ?
[01:15] <MushroomKingdom> kk
[01:15] <gosse> i ran sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[01:15] <scott___> i just changed to 4gb of ram and when i leave my system on for extended periods of time (locked session), i come back, log in and it is frozen (firefox was left open)
[01:16] <linux-hdtv> scott___, let the devs know via a bug report. those freezes are important
[01:16] <gosse> linux-hdtv, i ran it as sudo
[01:17] <bryan> how do i get ubuntu's network  display?
[01:18] <doleyb> bryan: Can you be more specific?  (Or ssh -X)
[01:18] <bryan> doleyb: i upgraded ubuntu and now i cant get the network manager to show up. i cant get it to connect to a wireless connection.
[01:19] <doleyb> bryan: ok, thats easy, in fact there's a page
[01:19] <bryan> doleyb: where is it? i have been lost trying to get it to display.
[01:19] <doleyb> bryan: Read this and scroll down to Network Manager Plasma Widget http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:19] <bryan> doleyb: not kubunut. ubunutu
[01:20] <doleyb> bryan: Um do you know what channel this is?
[01:20] <linux-hdtv> bryan, join #ubuntu
[01:20] <bryan> doleyb: fair enough.
[01:20] <gosse> linux-hdtv, can you help?
[01:21] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i am amazed at all the bugs, quite overwhelmed
[01:21] <doleyb> gosse: You want kdm as the default?  Easy thing is remove gdm
[01:21] <Mushroom> k reboot works
[01:22] <gosse> all the bugs with me in particular? it's devastating all the nasty stuff that happens to me in computers... it's always been that way.
[01:22] <linux-hdtv> me too, gosse.
[01:22] <linux-hdtv> not you.
[01:23] <gosse> i've got KDM set to default now... but i need to stop it before i can install my new nvidia drivers... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop i get the erryr that kdm is not responding to term signal
[01:23] <gosse> i haev no idea what that means
[01:23] <linux-hdtv> gosse, reboot
[01:24] <gosse> thanks. :D
[01:25] <Mushroom> I'm having troubles installing the amarok files to play mp3
[01:26] <linux-hdtv> did you try medibuntu ?
[01:26] <Mushroom> no I havent
[01:26] <Mushroom> I'll try that out thanks
[01:27] <linux-hdtv> after installing the sources, start synaptic and install things found by searching for "restricted", just enabled multimedia for me.
[01:29] <Mushroom> ok
[01:29] <gosse> crtl + alt + f7 won't bring me out of tty1
[01:30] <linux-hdtv> try f9
[01:30] <Mushroom> hmm thats odd aptitude doesnt bring up medibuntu
[01:30] <gosse> nope
[01:30] <gosse> reboot?
[01:30] <linux-hdtv> mushroom, medibuntu.org
[01:31] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i am a beginner here ...
[01:31] <gosse> me too :P
[01:31] <Mushroom> ah thankyou
[01:31] <linux-hdtv> did you try ctrl-alt-f9 ?
[01:31] <gosse> didn't work
[01:32] <linux-hdtv> i hope your reboot goes well, gosse.
[01:32] <jpedroza> Hello all. I just finished the update to 9.04 and now I can't connect to my wireless router.
[01:32] <gosse> -tear- me too
[01:33] <jpedroza> Wired access works fine.
[01:33] <Mushroom> Oh
[01:33] <doleyb> jpedroza: Do you have the network manage icon in the corner?
[01:33] <Mushroom> i had the same problem
[01:34] <jpedroza> doleyb: It doesn't launch on its own, but I launched it from the cli: knetworkmanager&
[01:34] <Mushroom> Is your router broadcasting in invisible mode?
[01:34] <jpedroza> Mushroom: No, I can see the router, config the connection, but no connection.
[01:34] <Mushroom> jpedroza: thats odd
[01:34] <jpedroza> Mushroom: I know. It was working great with 8.10.
[01:34] <doleyb> jpedroza: Well that's not what 9.04 uses.  Did you read the network plasmoid directions? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:35] <jpedroza> doleyb: I had missed that.
[01:35] <jpedroza> doleyb: Let me add that and give it a try.
[01:36] <doleyb> probably quit knetworkmanager first
[01:36] <jpedroza> if I disconnect, I will brb
[01:37] <rmrfslash> jpedroza: I just joined. the knetworkmanager applet doesn't work. Not even sure why they include it in the distro. You're supposed to use the plasmoid
[01:38] <rmrfslash> jpedroza: well... it didn't work for me at least :)
[01:38] <doleyb> I'm happy knetworkmanager is gone... it used 1% cpu pretty permanently
[01:39] <doleyb> On the other hand I don't quite like the underlying design of plasmoids.
[01:39] <chx> well.
[01:39] <chx> networkmanager , as it is, sucks.
[01:39] <chx> never was able to get it to join an AdHoc network.
[01:40] <gosse> during the install process, is et the computer to auto-login as my user name... when i switched to KDE, it turned that feature off. how do i set it back?
[01:40] <rmrfslash> I've had more issues w/ the plasmoid... esp. broadband
[01:40] <rmrfslash> and it crashing my machine entirely if I screw w/ it too much
[01:40] <Mushroom> hm. im not sure what to download off medibuntu
[01:41] <doleyb> gosse: system settings, advanced, login manager
[01:41] <rmrfslash> Mushroom: what r u trying to get? Skype?
[01:41] <linux-hdtv> did you find the "restricted" stuff ?
[01:41] <gosse> thx
[01:41] <Mushroom> im trying to get my mp3's to play
[01:41] <rmrfslash> oh
[01:41] <rmrfslash> try songbird
[01:41] <rmrfslash> from mozilla
[01:42] <linux-hdtv> mushroom, did you find the "restricted" stuff ?
[01:42] <Mushroom> I dont see restricted stuff
[01:42] <rmrfslash> sudo apt-get install songbird
[01:42] <rmrfslash> it's very iTunes like
[01:42] <linux-hdtv> did you search for it in synaptic ?
[01:42] <rmrfslash> Then there's amarok
[01:43] <Mushroom> yeah found restricted.
[01:43] <Mushroom> Im trying to get the files for amarok
[01:43] <linux-hdtv> install the modules listed
[01:43] <rmrfslash> I still say go w/ songbird :D
[01:44] <gosse> KDE performance seems mych more sluggish than GMD
[01:44] <rmrfslash> what's GMD
[01:44] <gosse> GDM... dyslexic, don't notice when i transpose letters sometimes
[01:44] <Mushroom> all of the modules?
[01:44] <chx> um. when i start firefox, amarok sound stops and does not restart until i restart amarok2
[01:44] <rmrfslash> what's that, gnome?
[01:44] <gosse> yeah
[01:45] <chx> no shared sound?
[01:45] <rmrfslash> yeah, gnome performance is nice.... but ugg
[01:45] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, what repository do i need for songbird ?
[01:45] <gosse> ugg?
[01:45] <rmrfslash> ummmmmm
[01:45] <rmrfslash> not sure
[01:45] <rmrfslash> 3rd party?
[01:45] <linux-hdtv> gosse, i find kde4.2 extremely slow
[01:46] <gosse> i'm not in this for the flashy-flashy... i want to really see what a dual-core 64-bit AMD4400+ can do :D
[01:46] <jpedroza> That did the trick!
[01:46] <linux-hdtv> great :-)
[01:46] <jpedroza> is there a way to import my wireless broadband settings from kppp or knetworkmanager?
[01:47] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: im not entirely sure which repo
[01:47] <gosse> -tears of frustration- i don't like KDM at all! just after i get used to GDM, go figure... switching back methinks
[01:47] <doleyb> gosse: Strange, I wonder why someone would use it enough to even care..
[01:47] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: its in one of em though!
[01:49] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i have some 43 sources, and synaptic doesnt find a songbird
[01:49] <Mushroom> Should I install every restricted file?
[01:49] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: how the hell can I see it then!
[01:50] <doleyb> linux-hdtv: You'd want to play with amarok first.
[01:50] <doleyb> amarok is part of kubuntu, it shouldn't need to be separately installed.
[01:50] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I have multiverse, universe, restricted and main enabled
[01:50] <linux-hdtv> no, mushroom, not the server stuff
[01:50] <jj__> erm...I am having trouble with my macbook 4.1 and not seeing wlan0 in the network manager
[01:51] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i am on kubuntu 9.04 64bit
[01:51] <rmrfslash> me too
[01:51] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I do have medibuntu in my sources
[01:52] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: could be comin from there. I mean, you could get it from mozilla
[01:52] <linux-hdtv> is there a bot that could answer when someone mentions the network manager ?
[01:52] <jpedroza> jj__: Are you using knetworkmanager?
[01:52] <jj__> yes
[01:52] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, don't know what i'm doing wrong, have medibuntu enabled too
[01:52] <jpedroza> jj__: I just got mine working.
[01:53] <jpedroza> jj__: You need to quit knetworkmanager and use the new plasmoid.
[01:53] <Mushroom> how do I enable universe, multiverse and restricted?
[01:53] <jj__> oh?
[01:53] <jj__> I am fiarly new to plasmoids
[01:53] <jj__> and aparrently new to spelling as well ;-)
[01:54] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: I installed it w/ a deb.... maybe now it's showing up (shot in the dark)
[01:54] <jpedroza> jj__: Here is the link: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release
[01:54] <Daskreech> !universe | Mushroom
[01:54] <jpedroza> jj__: about halfway down the page
[01:54] <Mushroom> thank you
[01:54] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, i understand
[01:55] <rmrfslash> linux-hdtv: if I installed it thoguh a deb would it show up in apt-cache search?
[01:55] <linux-hdtv> how is songbird better then amarok ?
[01:55] <linux-hdtv> i don't know
[01:55] <jpedroza> linux-hdtv: I prefer Amarok
[01:56] <Daskreech> linux-hdtv: it plays the internet?
[01:56] <jpedroza> linux-hdtv: I had both installed and switched to Amarok. Songbird was pretty unstable for me.
[01:56] <rmrfslash> I dunno.... I like that it's iTunes-like and it has a built in web browser so if you find a song and click on it you can supposedly choose to buy it through amazon or other retailers
[01:56] <rmrfslash> gotta go :)
[01:56] <jj__> jpedroza: sorry...but it turns out that was what I was using all along
[01:56] <rmrfslash> try it out... see if u like it (songbird)
[01:56] <linux-hdtv> Daskreech, :-)
[01:56] <rmrfslash> hey Daskreech
[01:57] <rmrfslash> cya
[01:57] <linux-hdtv> rmrfslash, good night :-)
[01:57] <jj__> my wireless won't show up in the plasmoid
[01:58] <jj__> I can see the network controller when I do an lspci -vk, so its up and running
[01:58] <jj__> but I can't get it to show up in the plasmoid
[01:59] <jj__> thus, no connection
[01:59] <jj__> :-(
[01:59] <jj__> idears?
[02:00] <Daskreech> jj__: Hidden essid ?
[02:00] <jj__> hrm...no wlan0 at iwconfig
[02:01] <jj__> its not a matter of the essid being hidden, Daskreech -- I can't even see wlan0
[02:01] <xjjk> jj__: what kind of adapter do you have?
[02:02] <jj__> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
[02:02] <xjjk> ugh, broadcom card
[02:03] <jj__> I have now officially been at this for 6 hours...I have never had this much trouble before.
[02:03] <jj__> I am wide open to ideas.
[02:03] <Daskreech> jj__: even with ifconfig ?
[02:03] <xjjk> jj__: this isn't a high-level problem with KDE or plasma/any plasmoids
[02:04] <xjjk> if the device is not showing up with iwconfig
[02:04] <jj__> at ifconfig I have eth0 and lo
[02:04] <xjjk> it's probably an issue of the driver not loading
[02:04] <Daskreech> !broadcom
[02:04] <Daskreech> have you read that? ^^^
[02:05] <Daskreech> !broadcom  | Hopefully you've read this already jj__
[02:05] <xjjk> Daskreech: those pages seem out of date
[02:05] <jj__> no...I have Jaunty installed
[02:05] <xjjk> not sure if they apply
[02:05] <jj__> which would be most applicable?
[02:05] <Daskreech> They are but broadcom's suck is forever
[02:05] <xjjk> Jaunty/2.6.28 has had a *huge* reworking of wireless
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: the latest version, 8.04
[02:06] <jj__> ok
[02:06]  * Daskreech has no clue about wireless
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: try, on a terminal
[02:06] <Daskreech> jj__: This is a underlying driver issue so seeking help in #ubuntu is viable as well
[02:06] <xjjk> sudo lsmod | grep b43
[02:06] <xjjk> jj__: yes, there would probably be more people with experience in #ubuntu
[02:07] <jj__> xjjk: not running
[02:07] <jj__> not running in lsmod
[02:07] <xjjk> jj__: sudo modprobe b43
[02:08] <jj__> modprobe loads the b43 driver, the lsmod shows it running
[02:08] <xjjk> jj__: try iwconfig, do you see a wireless device now?
[02:09] <jj__> nope
[02:09] <jj__> :-(
[02:09] <xjjk> sudo dmesg
[02:09] <jj__> lo, eth0 and pan0
[02:09] <xjjk> see if anything interesting printed
[02:09] <jj__> hrm
[02:09] <jj__> yes
[02:10] <jj__> cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[02:10] <jj__> followed by
[02:10] <xjjk> if it's more th an a couple of lines please put onto a pastebin
[02:10] <jj__> [ 1942.398117] cfg80211: World regulatory domain updated
[02:10] <jj__> pastebin?
[02:11] <jj__> hrm...not located here
[02:11] <jj__> sec
[02:11] <jj__> used to my own irc
[02:11] <xjjk> jj__: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, and paste the output
[02:11] <Bandolo_Magnesi> hello good evening
[02:11] <Bandolo_Magnesi> wich driver do i need to install for my 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[02:12] <Bandolo_Magnesi> i have kubuntu 9.04
[02:12] <xjjk> Bandolo_Magnesi: did you need 3D support
[02:12] <Bandolo_Magnesi> yes definetly
[02:12] <xjjk> the NVIDIA legacy drivers, AFAIK
[02:13] <xjjk> think envyng can help you with it...
[02:13] <Bandolo_Magnesi> i choose the 173 one and it started downloading the driver and then it interrupted and crashed
[02:13] <Daskreech> !nv
[02:13] <jj__> xjjk:  http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157607/
[02:13] <xjjk> jj__: that's interesting
[02:13] <jj__> quite
[02:14] <xjjk> jj__: could you check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[02:14] <jj__> sure
[02:14] <xjjk> jj__: from the output you've given, things look working and you should have a wireless networking device
[02:14] <Daskreech> restart networking yet?
[02:15] <Daskreech> it won't reload the interfaces until you do that
[02:15] <xjjk> Daskreech: with iwconfig AFAIK that shouldn't matter
[02:15] <xjjk> networking doesn't register interfaces, the drivers do
[02:16] <jj__> xjjk: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157609/
[02:16] <xjjk> jj__: mmm
[02:16] <jj__> hrrrrrm
[02:16] <jj__> Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0.
[02:17] <xjjk> jj__: said computer has an ethernet card, right? eth0 is that and not the wireless, right
[02:17] <jj__> it has both wifi and ethernet
[02:17] <jj__> macbook
[02:17] <jj__> 4.1
[02:18] <Daskreech> air? :-)
[02:18] <xjjk> jj__: BTW, a good, up-to-date FAQ for this: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:19] <jj__> lookingnow
[02:20] <xjjk> jj__: there's soemthing about extracting firmware, and needing to do this on Ubuntu is mentioned
[02:20] <xjjk> I'm not sure why this isn't on the community wiki
[02:21] <xjjk> jj__: if you get all this working, it'd be *really* helpful if you coalesced all the steps together and updated the wiki
[02:21] <jj__> heh
[02:21] <jj__> I'll see what I can do
[02:22] <jj__> I have spent the last 10 hours doing this
[02:22] <jj__> the steps are a big huge muddle in my brain
[02:22] <Daskreech> xjjk: Add it yourself?
[02:22] <xjjk> Daskreech: I don't have a Broadcom card, so I can't relaibly add it myself
[02:23] <Daskreech> hrrm good point I guess
[02:23] <xjjk> jj__: try the firmware extraction step?
[02:24] <xjjk> jj__: also, there's a first bit towards the top of the document
[02:24] <xjjk> to check whether your wireless card is even supported by the driver
[02:25] <xjjk> jj__: from a quick look on the Internet, some of the Broadcom cards in Macbooks don't work with the OSS driver...
[02:26] <xjjk> could you run that check mentioned on the FAQ? sudo lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[02:27] <jj__> sure
[02:27] <jj__> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4328] (rev 03)
[02:27] <gosse> it takes so terribly long to install the 430 updates after my base install of linux... i want to do it on another computer, is there another distro i can download that has all these updates preapplied?
[02:27] <xjjk> gosse: all distributions that work off the idea of releases will get outdated
[02:28] <gosse> but this one just came out! i'm using 9.04 :P
[02:28] <xjjk> gosse: yeh well...
[02:28] <jj__> te hat chip, BCM4328 isn't listed in the supported chipset for that BW43-fwcutter
[02:28] <jj__> hrm
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> gosse- you could probably get the updated packages and put them on a CD
[02:28] <Daskreech> gosse: just copy the updates to the new computer
[02:28] <Daskreech> ls /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> !aptoncd | gosse
[02:29] <Dragnslcr> Or something like that
[02:29] <gosse> that's cute... it also happens to be my last name :P
[02:29] <Daskreech> put them on a USB drive or what have you and then drop them in the same directory on the new computer and it won't download them
[02:29] <xjjk> jj__: hrm, yeh... the FAQ mentioned that 14e4:4328 is not supported
[02:29] <xjjk> the OSS drivers won't work
[02:31] <xjjk> jj__: hrm.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro may be a good starting point here
[02:31] <xjjk> it has details on getting the specific wireless cards used in specific models tow rok
[02:32] <jj__> xjjk: I don't have a macbook pro
[02:32] <jj__> :-(
[02:33] <xjjk> jj__: the wireless hardware is probably exactly the same
[02:33] <xjjk> jj__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[02:33] <kde185> anyone here able to comment on how the lpia version of kubuntu performs on an eee 1000?  I've heard the intel X driver is very slow.
[02:35] <wzh> hi
[02:36] <jj__> xjjk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Jaunty    is the one I have
[02:36] <Mushroom> grrrr I still cant get transparency to work!!
[02:36] <jj__> and according to that page, It just works after enabling the broadcom :-(
[02:36] <jj__> nope
[02:36] <xjjk> jj__: check really quick, do you have the linux-restricted-modules package instaleld?
[02:36] <wzh> I use kubuntu,how can I install chinese
[02:39] <jj__> xjjk: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157615/
[02:40] <xjjk> jj__: it's installed...
[02:40] <xjjk> try: sudo lsmod | grep wl
[02:40] <xjjk> AFAIK that's the name of the proprietary broadcom driver
[02:41] <jj__> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/157617/
[02:41] <Mushroom> What do I need to do to so my desktop allows me to have transparent backgrounds?
[02:41] <xjjk> jj__: grep wl /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages
[02:44] <jj__> Apr 24 17:36:08 kovacs kernel: [    8.679708] wl: module license '' taints kernel.
[02:46] <Mushroom> Doesn anyone know how to get transparency working?
[02:46] <Mushroom> I have desktop effects on
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: that's it...?
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: AFAIK, really, your wireless looks as if it should be working
[02:47] <jj__> xjjk: yes
[02:47] <xjjk> jj__: have you asked in #ubuntu.. perhaps somewhere there also with a Macbook
[02:49] <Bandolo_Magnesi_> still problems  with nvidia geforce 5200 drivers on kubuntu9.04
[02:49] <jj__> I'll have to look at this closer
[02:49] <jj__> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[02:50] <xjjk> jj__: those are included with Ubuntu already
[02:51] <mackindale> hey, how do I change the clock from 12 hour time to 24 time?
[02:52] <jj__> thanks, xjjk I think i will :-)
[02:53] <mackindale> When I look at the Date & Time setting in System Settings, it's 24 hour but it's not on the panel?
[02:55] <m_tadeu> hi...my desktop freezes with no apparent reason....is anyone having the same problem?
[02:55] <mackindale> What version of KDE do you have?
[02:56] <AlephZarro> Hey everyone.  I'm up and running on Kubuntu 9.04 but I can't find a way to specify the monitor (my monitor is a much older ViewSonic GS790 which doesn't have the whiz-bangy auto detection goodness).  KStart -> System Settings -> Display just shows a "VGA" monitor type.  Any ideas?
[02:56] <m_tadeu> 4.2.2...using jaunty
[02:57] <mackindale> I see
[02:57] <mackindale> well what are your specs?
[02:58] <mermshaus> m_tadeu: do you have the desktop effects activated?
[02:58] <m_tadeu> mermshaus: yup...but deactivating won't solve the problem
[02:59] <mermshaus> m_tadeu: ah, okay. :-( It did solve it for me.
[02:59] <dominick> has anybody upgraded yet?
[02:59] <mackindale> upgraded to what?
[02:59] <mackindale> 9.04?
[02:59] <dominick> yep
[03:00] <mackindale> It's still a little buggy, but it's nice
[03:00] <mackindale> kopete is a disaster for me
[03:00] <mackindale> and it seems amorak has to be reinstalled
[03:01] <dominick> @mackindale do you recommend it now? or should we wait?
[03:01] <m_tadeu> kopete crashes like hell :)
[03:01] <mackindale> I'd wait maybe 2 weeks
[03:01] <mermshaus> I've got no problems except for phpmyadmin and desktop effects.
[03:01] <dominick> @mackindale ok. will take your advice then. :)
[03:02] <mackindale> desktop effects failed me too
[03:02] <mackindale> poor cube...
[03:02] <mackindale> ;_;
[03:02] <Mushroom> I cant have transparent windows :(
[03:02] <Mushroom> I dont know how to fix i
[03:02] <Mushroom> it*
[03:02] <mermshaus> Yeah, no way to make people jealous. ;-\
[03:03] <mermshaus> "no way" is that correct english? ah, i dont care.
[03:03] <mackindale> I think it is
[03:03] <troob> ack 380 updates.. so slow... anyway to speed up KPackageKit for beta->9.04 final?
[03:03] <mackindale> haha
[03:03] <mackindale> download the ISO
[03:03] <mackindale> and write to CD
[03:03] <dominick> well, i'm happy with intrepid so far
[03:03] <KDesk> hi
[03:03] <faileas> lol
[03:03] <mackindale> I didn't, but should have
[03:03] <troob> but i'm using it now..l
[03:04] <tacosarecool> hello
[03:04] <mackindale> Hello
[03:04] <troob> why is the details button disabled on KPackageKit during download?
[03:04] <KDesk> I am seraching a hex editor for kde, I read about khexeditor but I can't find a deb for it. Which other good hex editor can I install?
[03:04] <tacosarecool> I plan on reinstall kubuntu so is it best to manually partition?
[03:04] <mackindale> mhm
[03:05] <tacosarecool> !ext4
[03:05] <doleyb> troob: it will probably get active when the downloads are over and its installing.  it has no details yet.
[03:05] <mackindale> woah, what's ext4?
[03:06] <doleyb> mackindale: a new fs that trapped some people who didn't flush their streams!
[03:09] <KDesk> the repo for karmix is open hehe
[03:09] <tom_> are there any click for pay that are not scams?
[03:10] <sgrover> help? new install of 9.04.  Installed Thunderbird.  Credentials are set up, but when connecting I'm prompted for a password for "username<EMAIL_ADDRESS> Of course that fails
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> KDesk- did you try searching for "hex" in KPackageKit (or Adept)? Looks like ghex might be something to try
[03:10] <tacosarecool> so is it best to run ext4 with ext3?
[03:10] <sgrover> I've reset the values many times, even edited thunderchicken's perfs.js file manually.  No joy
[03:11] <Daskreech> KDesk: oketa
[03:11] <KDesk> Dragnslcr: oh, yes, I will take a look at it, I was initialy searchin for a qt app, but it not bad this :)
[03:13] <Daskreech> MushroomKingdom: All hail toadstool!
[03:13] <Daskreech> !info oketa
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> !info okteta
[03:13] <Daskreech> Curses
[03:13] <bokey> lol
[03:13] <Dragnslcr> That's what I get for only searching by package name instead of description
[03:14] <Daskreech> Dragnslcr: :-)
[03:14] <Daskreech> KDesk: ^^
[03:14] <bokey> isn't there any app for kde? bring it on!
[03:14] <Dragnslcr> I've just been enjoying being able to search only by package name so much
[03:15] <Dragnslcr> I had missed it since going to KDE4
[03:15] <Byron> I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking for (terminology-wise), but I want to export video from my AAO to my desktop's monitor (It's setup with a KVM switch)
[03:15] <KDesk> Daskreech: oh, wow, this is good, I have to practice searching in apt... but  aptitude search hex |grep kde doesn't show okteta...
[03:15] <tacosarecool> Is it best to run ext4 with ext3?
[03:16] <Daskreech> KDesk: Why would it?
[03:16] <Daskreech> tacosarecool: That statement makes no sense
[03:16] <tacosarecool> cause you can run both
[03:16] <doleyb> tacosarecool: surely you meant to say KDE4
[03:16] <tacosarecool> at the same time
[03:17] <bokey> kde4.2 is awesome
[03:17] <Daskreech> It still makes no sense
[03:17] <doleyb> tacosarecool: no its not best, pick one
[03:17] <KDesk> Daskreech: because I thought... I thought it searches in name and description.. so many years and now I know that. hehe
[03:17] <tacosarecool> oh ok
[03:17] <Byron> This would be the first time I've heard of 2 different FS's running at the same time and not one within the other.
[03:17] <sgrover> tacosarecool: can't run both on same partition at once - assuming you mean the file systems ext3 and ext4.
[03:17] <bokey> haha
[03:17] <tacosarecool> yes
[03:17] <KDesk> Daskreech:  ah, it was:  apt-cache search kde hex
[03:17] <Daskreech> KDesk: try search hex | grep -i kde
[03:18] <sgrover> is ext4 officially stable yet?
[03:18] <bokey> are you guys practising your apt foo?
[03:18] <tacosarecool> Patches were released
[03:18] <mermshaus> g
[03:18] <tacosarecool> should be stable enough
[03:18] <Daskreech> sgrover: Officially? yes
[03:18] <sgrover> "stable enough" is not good enough for my business needs.. :)
[03:18] <tacosarecool> Ext4 only has problems when the patches weren't officially released
[03:18] <Byron> For everyone here, I recommend reading Linux Phrasebook. It has quite a bit of what you need to know as basics for running commands and the general bases are covered with great examples.
[03:19] <Daskreech> sgrover: Thats exactly what it is now
[03:19] <Daskreech> Byron: Great :-)
[03:19] <mermshaus> Byron: is there a link or something? i'm way too lazy to google.
[03:19] <Byron> I take that back, not everyone. There are people here who can more than likely piece something together a bit better.
[03:19]  * faileas learnt a lot off irc ;p
[03:19] <Daskreech> !commands | Byron hope that helps too
[03:19] <doleyb> sgrover: ext4's normal mode doesn't provide some implicit features of ext3, which hurt some client code in semi-rare situations.
[03:19] <Byron> Daskreech: Yes, it really is
[03:19] <bokey> Byron: liar!
[03:19] <Daskreech> bokey: Be nice
[03:20] <Byron> mermshaus: Yes, I can get you one right now from Amazon
[03:20] <bokey> all you need is access to man page and info
[03:20] <bokey> Daskreech: lol :D
[03:20] <mermshaus> Byron: booh! :)
[03:21] <mackindale> so I have 500GB, and want a new OS. What should I download? Not a Linux one, though.
[03:21] <bokey> Daskreech: what makes you think i am cruel?
[03:21] <bokey> to people
[03:21] <muti> ... question, why when i try to play a video over a smb share it has to copy the whole file to the local pc instead of playing it from the share
[03:21] <Byron> mermshaus: Here is the Amazon.com... http://www.amazon.com/Linux-Phrasebook-Developers-Library-Granneman/dp/0672328380
[03:21] <mermshaus> oh well, 14 bucks
[03:21] <muti> using vlc, dunno if that makes a difference
[03:21] <faileas> mackindale: considering where you're asking?
[03:21] <Daskreech> mackindale: PC-bsd or opensolaris
[03:21] <Byron> Here is the Google Books... http://books.google.com/books?id=3w4sjblXbjwC&dq=book:linux+phrasebook&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=xx-hacker&ei=f3PySZeVMJHoMJHX7b0P&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4
[03:21] <mermshaus> Byron: merci!
[03:22] <Byron> mermshaus: ;)
[03:22] <Byron> I have found this book to be very insightful and useful
[03:24] <mermshaus> Byron: I'll bookmark it. 14 $ sounds quite fair.
[03:24] <bokey> gee why dont you guys read man pages for a change. ;)
[03:25] <Byron> 365 pages of actual content, the rest is the intro and index
[03:25] <faileas> mackindale: haiku or react ;p
[03:25] <mermshaus> because man pages are for the weak. ;)
[03:26] <faileas> Daskreech: pcbsd is nice, but the 'easy' package management never worked when i tried it a few years back
[03:26] <doleyb> real men cat *.c
[03:26] <bokey> lol you've got wrong impression
[03:26] <bokey> my friend
[03:26] <mermshaus> did you ever read man git?
[03:26] <bokey> man pages are the work of true artists
[03:27] <bokey> if i use git, yes i would
[03:27] <mermshaus> man git truly is a work of artists. :-)
[03:29] <bokey> hehe
[03:29] <angelo_> hi
[03:30] <angelo_> alguno habla español?
[03:30] <Byron> !es | angelo_
[03:30] <mermshaus> donde esta el dinero
[03:30] <Byron> mermshaus: LOL
[03:31] <angelo_> ok :D
[03:31] <angelo_> que dinero ?
[03:31] <mermshaus> only sentence I know. :) sry, guys
[03:31] <Byron> donde esta el sanitario </Encino Man>
[03:32] <bokey> por favor hable Inglés aquí. gracias!
[03:35] <m_tadeu> is it possible that ubuntu updates the nvidia drivers for a more recent version in the next few days?
[03:35] <mackindale> probably
[03:36] <mackindale> now that there's a new release, loads of people will be submitting bugs and requests
[03:36] <m_tadeu> unfortunatelly I need the one marked as prerelease
[03:36] <muti> how do ya configure dolphin to use double click?
[03:38] <Byron> muti: it's in your system settings
[03:38] <mermshaus> muti: I guess you via System Settings > Keyboard & Mouse > Mouse > Icons
[03:38] <mermshaus> -you
[03:39] <muti> my system settings are already set to double click though
[03:39] <muti> i have to double click to open other things now so it did take the setting
[03:39] <muti> but in dolphin everything is still single click
[03:40] <mermshaus> muti: (Hm... In that case I do not know.)
[03:42] <bokey> can anyone check something quick for me? thanks
[03:42] <mermshaus> what is it?
[03:43] <bokey> open konqueror and go to http://get.adobe.com:80/flashplayer/otherversions/, select "linux" and submit
[03:43] <bokey> mermshaus: ^^^^
[03:43] <mermshaus> waitasecond
[03:43] <mermshaus> wthey?
[03:44] <bokey> mermshaus: dl flash
[03:44] <mermshaus> why are you doing those ^^^^? i'm kind of sceptical now.
[03:44] <bokey> mermshaus: above
[03:45] <mermshaus> oic
[03:45] <mermshaus> doesnt work.
[03:45] <bokey> mermshaus: so it doesnt dl for you as well?
[03:45] <mermshaus> yep
[03:45] <bokey> demn
[03:45] <mermshaus> can't click on continue.
[03:45] <bokey> same here
[03:46] <mermshaus> but try $ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[03:46] <bokey> mermshaus: thats not an issue, i've got flash already.
[03:46] <tacosarecool> reinstall woot!
[03:46] <genii> When you're in console, use TAB key to change fields, enter to select things. Not the mouse
[03:46] <tacosarecool> fast server ftw
[03:47] <bokey> mermshaus: i am trying to get a new one (binary one) from Adobe
[03:47] <josh___> I just upgraded to Jaunty, and virtually everything is broken (i.e. Dolphin, Konqueror, Konsole). How/where should I start to find a solution? (By broken, I mean when I try to open them I get the busy icon for a couple seconds, they show up on the taskbar, then disappear with no error message visible.)
[03:49] <mermshaus> bokey: no idea, sorry
[03:49] <mackindale> try upgrading
[03:49] <mackindale> with adept
[03:50] <bokey> mermshaus: thats cool thanks
[03:51] <perseid> I'm trying to upgrade to 9.04. It was downloading at 30k/sec so I aborted so I could change sources. Adept is now broken and won't let me change sources.
[03:51] <troob> Doest the 64-bit build work ok?
[03:52] <doleyb> troob: yeah it's hard to tell it apart
[03:53] <josh___> troob: I'm having problems w/ it, but I'm not sure if they're just bugs in my system
[03:56] <histo> you guys experiencing problems with pulseaudio as well?
[03:56] <perseid> Is it possible to upgrade with a source besides main at all?
[03:57] <bokey> mermshaus: do you use video sites?
[03:57] <bokey> mermshaus: youtube/vimeo etc
[03:57] <mermshaus> sure
[03:57] <bokey> could you see if it works? thanks
[03:58] <bokey> i've got Version 4.2.00 (KDE 4.2.0) still crashing.
[03:58] <Daskreech> histo: pulseaudio isn't installed by kubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <mermshaus> one sec. i'll be right back
[03:58] <histo> kk
[03:58] <bokey> mermshaus: sure
[03:58] <Daskreech> bokey: where did you get that?
[03:58] <Daskreech> should be 4.2.1 at least
[03:58] <bokey> Daskreech: my archive
[03:58] <perseid> LOL The upgrader says it will take 82 days.
[03:59] <bokey> Daskreech: it says its 4.2.0
[03:59] <EagleScreen> then be patient lol
[03:59] <bokey> kde is 4.2.0 as well
[04:00] <Daskreech> perseid: KDE 4.2.4 should be out then
[04:00] <bokey> everything has worked so far except video site with konqueror and couple of other sites
[04:02] <mermshaus> bokey: shall i try something like youtube with konqueror?
[04:02] <bokey> mermshaus: sure
[04:04] <mermshaus> http://www.vimeo.com/3909301 works fine with the flash I got from the repos.
[04:04] <MushroomKingdom> yay I got sound working
[04:04] <bokey> mermshaus: and the flash you got is flashplugin-nonfree yeah
[04:04] <MushroomKingdom> now I need to get transparencies to work
[04:05] <mermshaus> bokey: yeah, i'm pretty sure it is. maybe I got flashplugin-installer (or something like that), too
[04:06] <bokey> mermshaus: i've got the non-free straight from adobe's website works with FF
[04:06] <sancho21> I'm a Kubuntu 9.04 user, I would like to stay away from pppoeconf which is too geek for my friend.
[04:06] <bokey> used it for years
[04:06] <sancho21> What should I use?
[04:07] <mermshaus> two days ago, I had to reinstall it through kpackagekit because there were some upgrade issues. so I'm pretty sure I have got the nonfree-version from the repositories. it doesn't work for you?
[04:09] <EagleScreen> kpackagekit is not mature
[04:09] <bokey> mermshaus: just pulled it, it doesn't. non-free does the same exact thing that i do manually
[04:09] <bokey> dl it, put it in the right place
[04:09] <EagleScreen> !aptitude
[04:09] <mermshaus> I never got aptitude. :-)
[04:09] <EagleScreen> or install synaptic with 'sudo aptitude -R install synaptic'
[04:10] <bokey> mermshaus: theres adept as well if you wanna try
[04:10] <perseid> ...are there sources besides the main two that work? Are there ANY sources that work above 50K?
[04:10] <bokey> hell i am gonna give up on video sites with konqueror now

[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: oh why did give up?  did it work with firefox?
[04:11] <mermshaus> bokey: thanks
[04:11] <bokey> doleyb: yes it works with FF
[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: you pushed the button for konqueror to copy firefox's plugins, and it didn't work?
[04:11] <bokey> mermshaus: no worries my friend
[04:11] <bokey> doleyb: yes
[04:11] <doleyb> bokey: sad!
[04:12] <bokey> is there a way to check all the registered plugins with konqueror?
[04:12] <bokey> besides the one in the settings i.e
[04:12] <AliTarihi> Hi, I have a repository with patched kernel packages, but I can not install from them
[04:13] <bokey> AliTarihi: how so?
[04:13] <AliTarihi> bokey: I've added the repo. But the names seem to be the same and I can not install via aptitude
[04:13] <bokey> AliTarihi: what is the package youre trying to install and from where?
[04:14] <MushroomKingdom> How do I uninstall things?
[04:14] <AliTarihi> bokey: tux on ice
[04:14] <Jonie> anyone installed grub-gfxboot?
[04:15] <sancho21> Kubuntu adsl how?
[04:15] <sancho21> I don't like pppoeconf
[04:16] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: what do you want to uninstall?
[04:16] <perseid> So what do I do here? Just not update?
[04:16] <MushroomKingdom> I installed this science thing accidentally
[04:16] <MushroomKingdom> openuniverse space simulator
[04:17] <bokey> AliTarihi: wheres the link for kernel module?
[04:17] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: Try removing it via Adept.
[04:17] <AliTarihi> bokey: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/tuxonice/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[04:17] <AliTarihi> bokey: it is an entire set of modules and kernel images
[04:19] <AliTarihi> bokey: will be back
[04:20] <bokey> yeah sure
[04:22] <perseid> ...if I go to edit sources it crashes.
[04:23] <EagleScreen> perseid: what kubuntu version?
[04:24] <perseid> 8.10. All I'm trying to is upgrade to 9.04 at more than50k/sec.
[04:24] <EagleScreen> !upgrade | perseid
[04:26] <perseid> So there are no other servers.
[04:26] <AliTarihi_> bokey: any luck?
[04:27] <Dragnslcr> Hm, Quassel doesn't have an option to automatically connect to a network on start?
[04:29] <mermshaus> http://www.vimeo.com/3909301 check out clayton cubitt
[04:29] <lorecaster> -rubs temples- now then... i think i got a whole bunch of problems sorted out :D
[04:29] <lorecaster> (lorecaster = gosse)
[04:30] <__lEo__> hi!
[04:32] <lorecaster> blessed be lEo
[04:34] <__lEo__> :-)
[04:34] <__lEo__> thanks for such a wlcome !
[04:34] <__lEo__> lol
[04:35] <__lEo__> I am test driving Quassel
[04:35] <lorecaster> When you see my name here, i'm actually active, no worries. most people who are here are in a dozen places at once, and only check in if the name turns read
[04:35] <lorecaster> quassel?
[04:35] <__lEo__> I always keep upgrading my Kubuntu
[04:35] <__lEo__> Quassel IRC
[04:35] <devilsadvocate> is the network manager even working in 9.04?
[04:35] <lorecaster> hey devil!
[04:35] <__lEo__> the new default IRC client in 9.04
[04:35] <lorecaster> :D
[04:35] <mermshaus> and it's awesome! so you know. ;-)
[04:35] <__lEo__> it is working here
[04:36] <__lEo__> (NM)
[04:36] <__lEo__> everything but the ati driver for my onboard gpu :-(
[04:37] <MushroomKingdom> Can someone please help me try to get my konsole to be transparent rather than black :(
[04:39] <bokey> AliTarihi_: did you get your problem solved?
[04:40] <AliTarihi_> bokey: no, not yet
[04:40] <icarus_> MushroomKingdom: As far as I know Console Transparency is an additional function. Possibly a different terminal.
[04:40] <bokey> AliTarihi_: ok chuck that launchpad line in your /etc/apt/sources.list (as root) and do ' sudo aptitude update'
[04:40] <__lEo__> Mushroom: is this configurable in KDE 4?
[04:40] <mermshaus> I guess you have to activate desktop effects.
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> icarius_: is there something I should download?
[04:40] <icarus_> let me look.
[04:40] <MushroomKingdom> I did
[04:41] <bokey> AliTarihi_: what kernel do you use?
[04:41] <bokey> AliTarihi_: version (uname -a)
[04:41] <MushroomKingdom> I have desktop effects enabled, but I'm told that my desktop doesnt support transparencies. What can I do about this?
[04:41] <icarus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212959
[04:41] <mermshaus> Than you can try to edit: Konsole > Settings >Edit current profile > Appearance > Edit
[04:41] <AliTarihi_> bokey: Linux kalimion 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:41] <mermshaus> There should be a slider for background transparency
[04:41] <icarus_> The background transparency of the Terminal is seperate from Kwin
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: the module will run on only 2 versions sadly its not there for .28-11
[04:42] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: Yeah it works, you might have to add network plasmoid to your bar.
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: you'd need to download the module and recompile it for your kernel
[04:42] <MushroomKingdom> ohh
[04:42] <bokey> AliTarihi_: manually i.e
[04:42] <bokey> linux - 2.6.28-12.44+tuxonice1
[04:42] <bokey>  linux - 2.6.27-15.33+tuxonice2
[04:42] <__lEo__> ah, i can;t set transpareency either in Konxole
[04:43] <bokey> those are the only once
[04:43] <AliTarihi_> bokey: I see. Thx :)
[04:43] <__lEo__> Konsole: it tells me it;s not allowed in my desktop
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> :) hopefully this works
[04:43] <AliTarihi_> bokey: I'll do that
[04:43] <__lEo__> like Mushroom
[04:43] <bokey> AliTarihi_: no worries
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom> icarus_ posted a good link
[04:43] <MushroomKingdom>  < icarus_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=212959
[04:45] <devilsadvocate> doleyb, my network works, but i dont see the manager writing stuff to /etc/network/interfaces - its still my old hand written file.. also, the plasmoid says my ip is dum.my.ip.addr
[04:46] <raylu> devilsadvocate: of course not. /etc/network/interfaces is for your configuration
[04:46] <raylu> if you configure anything there, networkmanager actually ignores it
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> raylu, ah. so i need to remove my file for nm to do its thing?
[04:46] <icarus_> is anyone having trouble with the new NetworkManager widget not saving whatconfigs you set?
[04:47] <bokey> mermshaus: what konqueror version is it you got there? thanks
[04:47] <raylu> devilsadvocate: i'm not sure what your situation is right now. but "ifconfig" will give you your current ip if you're interested
[04:47] <raylu> devilsadvocate: you certainly shouldn't remove the file, but commenting out some lines may help
[04:47] <icarus_> My settings for WEP dont save. I set it to hex and it goes to passphrase
[04:47] <doleyb> raylu: think he wants the network manager to work, which is the default way that stuff is supposed to happen
[04:48] <__lEo__> thanks Mushroom!
[04:48] <raylu> icarus_: "goes to passphrase?"
[04:48] <mermshaus> bokey: marc@suzu:~$ konqueror -version
[04:48] <mermshaus> Qt: 4.5.0
[04:48] <mermshaus> KDE: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[04:48] <mermshaus> Konqueror: 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[04:48] <devilsadvocate> raylu, my situation is that my network works fine, but i dont think the nm applet is doing anything right now. i'm a bit concerned whether its working or not. i can always configure it manually though, so it should really be ok
[04:48] <bokey> mermshaus: and its 9.04 right?
[04:48] <icarus_> Ifor WEP encryption I can choose between passphrase and hex key
[04:48] <__lEo__> All: remember to seed a torrent image of Kubuntu if you can, the servers are still very slowed down!
[04:48] <mermshaus> bokey: yep
[04:48] <raylu> devilsadvocate, doleyb: oh. i'd take out everything except the "lo" lines
[04:48] <icarus_> I need to use 128bit hex. Howeever when I select HEX encryption. I enter in the wep string and save it.
[04:48] <raylu> icarus_: they're just different ways of representing the same thing
[04:48] <icarus_> It does not save it as hex
[04:49] <raylu> icarus_: after you save it, it converts the hex to the string i assume
[04:49] <icarus_> no. there are actual differences between hex and passphrasee
[04:49] <raylu> hrm?
[04:49] <icarus_> HEX keys are alphanumeric between A-F and 0-9
[04:49] <bokey> Daskreech: i know where i got 4.2.0 from! :) backports
[04:50] <icarus_> Passphrase are unrestricted alphanumeric strings
[04:50] <icarus_> Passphrases are often called Pre-Shared Keys too. (Or atleast thought of in conjunction with it.)
[04:50] <bokey> ppa is too slow atm so i pulled it from backport.. wasn't a good subistute
[04:50] <Daskreech> bokey: That should be 4.2.1 I think
[04:50] <icarus_> So It is vital that I choose HEX.
[04:51] <bokey> Daskreech: hrm
[04:51] <MushroomKingdom> Awww it's still not transparent
[04:52] <bokey> you're right afaics
[04:53] <icarus_> MushroomKingdom. Google search Transparent Terminals and etc.
[04:53] <icarus_> There may be some terminals in Adept or Synaptic which may have transparency
[04:53] <mermshaus> MushroomKingdom: nobody needs a transparent terminal! it's a feature! ;-)
[04:55] <icarus_> Just make sure that you don't use a background that will conflict with your text color lol.
[04:55] <doleyb> I see the warning that kubuntu upgrade accidently installs pulseaudio.  But, what badness does that cause?
[04:55] <devilsadvocate> konsole has a transparant background now :|
[04:56] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: you dont have compositing but want a transparant terminal?
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> compositing?
[04:56] <icarus_> Doleyb: As far as I know whether or not it causes bad problems. It will conflict with Alsa if its active. And Pulseaudio provides different driver support.
[04:56] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: desktop effects
[04:56] <MushroomKingdom> I have them enabled.. but still no transparent
[04:57] <doleyb> icarus_: is pulseaudio a gnome thing?
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: ah. open up a konsole and go to edit current profile
[04:57] <MushroomKingdom> k
[04:57] <icarus_> Doleyb: Not it isn't. I do know ofr a fact PulseAudio are used with SoundBlaster cards because they provide the most support.
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: there, one of the tabs has a list of color schemes. select your favourite and click on edit
[04:57] <icarus_> It is just another type of sound driver. Like Gnome-Terminal or KDE's Konsole
[04:57] <icarus_> No major difference. just different.
[04:57] <devilsadvocate> you'll see the transparancy option inside there
[04:58] <MushroomKingdom> It says that the colour scheme uses a transparent background and doesnt not appear to be supported by my desktop
[04:58] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: what graphics do you have?
[04:58] <MushroomKingdom> NVidia GeForce 8400
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: with restricted drivers enabled?
[04:59] <MushroomKingdom> I think so
[04:59] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: somewhere in systemsettings>hardware
[05:00] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: check in system settings > desktop
[05:00] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: does it say desktop effects enabled?
[05:00] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[05:01] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: strange
[05:01] <bokey> it was indeed from backports
[05:01] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: in advanced, what does the compositing type say?
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> openGL
[05:02] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: is the apply button on the bottom greyed out (it should be)
[05:02] <MushroomKingdom> yes
[05:03] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: by all accounts, it should be working right now. you should be able to set a transparant background in konsole settings>edit current profile>appearence>edit
[05:04] <MushroomKingdom> well I enabled something In hardware i never had before, I'm going to reboot and see if that helped. Thank you
[05:04] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: try moving a window about the screen. does it become transparant while you move it (i think that is the default behaviour)
[05:06] <devilsadvocate> ok. so someone point me to some fun stuff thats new with 9.04 :P
[05:07] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: is alt-tab new and fun?
[05:07] <mermshaus> g
[05:07] <devilsadvocate> its the same as before?
[05:07] <devilsadvocate> hm
[05:08] <devilsadvocate> im liking the speed and responsiveness, although X is taking 70-80% of one core :|
[05:08] <doleyb> devilsadvocate: really, i am simply happy that ubuntu finally includes my network drivers
[05:09] <doleyb> oh and 9.04 included my touchpad driver at last
[05:09] <devilsadvocate> :)
[05:11] <doleyb> But i had been hoping it would do my microphone...!  i'll have to check more to see if maybe its fixed.
[05:15] <gaurav> hey ..
[05:15] <gaurav> i just upgraded my kubuntu OS
[05:16] <gaurav> to the latest version being offered
[05:16] <gaurav> 9.04
[05:16] <__lEo__> hi gaurav
[05:16] <gaurav> and it ...is now running terribly slow
[05:16] <__lEo__> the graphics?
[05:16] <gaurav> the whole thing!
[05:16] <__lEo__> or the processes in general?
[05:16] <gaurav> resizing
[05:16] <gaurav> opening start menu
[05:16] <gaurav> plus ..on top of it ...
[05:16] <doleyb> gaurav: check if you have kded4 going crazy
[05:16] <bazhang> !enter
[05:16] <gaurav> the KNetworkManager is missing
[05:17] <bokey> gaurav: what does 'top' show?
[05:17] <gaurav> my network is working ..but ..Knetworkmanager is ..no running in task manager
[05:17] <doleyb> gaurav: knetworkmanager is gone, activate the plasmoid instead (as shown in release notes)
[05:17] <__lEo__> can you check whether one process is taking over? Yes, I was wondering if you can use Top or the System Monitor
[05:17] <gaurav> how to check is kded4 is going crazy?
[05:17] <doleyb> gaurav: just look at top, and see if kded4 is at 99%.   If it is, just log out and back in.
[05:18] <gaurav> Xorg is 75%
[05:18] <__lEo__> also: Appplications->System-> System Monitor
[05:18] <__lEo__> what graph card do you have?
[05:18] <gaurav> i am using ibm thinkpad r51 ...i guess it has intel chipset
[05:19] <bokey> gaurav: you're 2nd person today with intel card on 9.04
[05:19] <gaurav> is Xorg a new program?? ...i had not seen it before in task manager
[05:19] <bokey> win 13
[05:19] <bvance> Hello, 9.04 issue-> eth0 doesn't show up in the control panel. The Wired Connections tab doesn't list any nics!
[05:19] <gaurav> ohhh
[05:19] <gaurav> is there any support issues with intel chipsets?
[05:20] <OxDeadC0de> can anyone here tell me how to pipe the output from locate --regex ".*\(ttf\)$" into cp output ./ ?
[05:20] <gaurav> i was amazed seeing the tagline ...easier ..faster ...
[05:20] <gaurav> buts ..its slower ...
[05:20] <gaurav> maybe ...machine dependent
[05:20] <OxDeadC0de> is there a simple magic trick for doing it?
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> hah ha
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> its transparent
[05:22] <lorecaster> sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig ... gave me this return ... E: Couldn't find package nvidia-xconfig
[05:22] <MushroomKingdom> but its too transparent :P my borders are trans too
[05:22] <lorecaster> anyone have a solution for me? :D
[05:23] <genii> bvance: Does command: ifconfig -a                       show an eth0 ?
[05:23] <gaurav> is intel card having troubles with 9.04 ..any solutions for it ???
[05:23] <MushroomKingdom> Can someone help me get my borders back to a solid state?
[05:23] <bvance> Yes, and its working with DHCP. But I can't make any changes to it.
[05:24] <bvance> I need to have eth0 as Static IP, and particular DNS.
[05:24] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: this is going to sound strange. shut off compositing and use it for a few hours. after that, reboot. turn on compositing. xorg will continue to eat cpu, but responsiveness will increas
[05:25] <gaurav> how to shut off compositing?
[05:25] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: there is no viable explanation why that should work, but thats what i did
[05:25] <gaurav> i am naive to such things
[05:25] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: turn off desktop effects
[05:25] <gaurav> okk
[05:25] <gaurav> i will do that
[05:25] <gaurav> what about KNetworkManager?
[05:25] <MushroomKingdom> Hey devil, got it working :) but my borders are transparent too :P
[05:26] <gaurav> how can i bring it back to the system taskbar?
[05:26] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: thats because of your kwin decorations
[05:26] <MushroomKingdom> ahh how do I stop that
[05:26] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: there is a plasmoid called network manager or something. add that to the panel
[05:26] <gaurav> its misisng from my Start menu
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: change your decorations. i dont remember where it is, i think right click on desktop > appearence > select theme
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: what is a start menu?
[05:27] <gaurav> but ..it is working shown in the task manager
[05:27] <Operator_> Hi could you please help me to install my genius 1320 webcam?
[05:27] <gaurav> the application menu!
[05:27] <gaurav> Big 'K'!
[05:27] <p_quarles> gaurav: it's a plasmoid; it's in the plasma menu, not the applications menu
[05:27] <gaurav> i am corresponding with windows actually
[05:27] <gaurav> ohh
[05:27] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: it
[05:28] <gaurav> okk
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: if you want it in the menu it'll proabbly be in system settings somewhere
[05:28] <MushroomKingdom> I dont see decorations
[05:28] <Mannequin> hi. after upgrading to 9.04, the "scrollbar zone" (not sure the name) on the touchpad became rather big
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> gaurav: that is the logical place for it to be
[05:28] <gaurav> ok
[05:28] <gaurav> let me see
[05:28] <Mannequin> like, half of the touchpad is working as "scroll zone"
[05:28] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: there will be something called theme, default is probably elegance or oxygen or some such thing
[05:28] <MushroomKingdom> I have mine on tragedy
[05:29] <devilsadvocate> MushroomKingdom: that is probaby the source of the transparant window borders
[05:29] <doleyb> Mannequin: Try playing with gsynaptics and maybe you can fix it.
[05:29] <MushroomKingdom> Hmm
[05:29] <MushroomKingdom> thats only my desktop theme though
[05:30] <Mannequin> doleyb: thanks, will try it
[05:30] <gaurav> yeah
[05:30] <gaurav> speed is up for sure
[05:30] <MushroomKingdom> ohhh I figured it out
[05:31] <gaurav> i wonder what they have put in the Desktop Effects
[05:31] <MushroomKingdom> I had an effect that made windows transparent
[05:31] <MushroomKingdom> thank you so much you've solved all my problems!
[05:34] <MushroomKingdom> woot woot
[05:34] <mermshaus> pong
[05:35] <Operator_> Help please! Does anybody know how to install Genius 1320 webcam in Kubuntu?
[05:35] <OxDeadC0de> in case anyone is curious I figured it out locate --regex ".*\(ttf\)$" | xargs -i -t -l1 cp {\} ./
[05:35] <Daskreech> MushroomKingdom: transparency?
[05:35] <__lEo__> Genius, it's not recognized?
[05:36] <doleyb> Operator_: run lsusb and see what chip it is, then go from there.  (hopefully it'll be an ov511)
[05:36] <MushroomKingdom> Its good now, its transparent :D
[05:36] <Daskreech> !webcam | Operator_
[05:36] <__lEo__> typically you don;t have to do anyghing
[05:36] <__lEo__> I mean, if a webcam is supported it justworks
[05:38] <Operator_> it is Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:62bf Microdia
[05:38] <heberth> hola gente
[05:38] <Bsims{fs}>  I know why why amraok changed but would it have killed them to include a migration tool
[05:38] <dkkdkkc4> hiya
[05:39] <Bsims{fs}>  I have to rebuild my database for music now
[05:39] <heberth> alguien habla español ?
[05:39] <dkkdkkc4> ada melayu?
[05:39] <__lEo__> maybe something like cheese can help you try the cam
[05:39] <__lEo__> hola heberth
[05:40] <jerry_> Did anyone install kubuntu 9.04 and if they did how is ruuing
[05:40] <troob> !firefox
[05:40] <heberth> hola IEo
[05:40] <mermshaus> jerry_: Quite good. By which I mean: same issues as with intrepid. no bluetooth for instance.
[05:40] <__lEo__> que anda pasando :-) Me estoy por ir a dormir pero si necesitas algo
[05:40] <bvance> jerry_: Its running OK except I can't change network settings.
[05:41] <heberth> soy nuevo ene sto !
[05:41] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: yeah I sorta looked for how to downgrade back to old amarok
[05:41] <heberth> alguien que quiera hablar sobre hackin ?
[05:41] <jerry_> ok thank- not so hot yet
[05:41] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: but instead I looped the same one song all day long.
[05:41] <heberth> hacking
[05:41] <heberth> speek hacking
[05:42] <heberth> hablar sobre hacking
[05:42] <doleyb> !es|heberth
[05:42] <doleyb> bvance: did you put in the network plasmoid?
[05:42] <jerry_> Im using kubuntu 8.04
[05:43] <david_k-cfd> Hello everyone.....anyone can help me?
[05:44] <david_k-cfd> I am really having it with my webcam
[05:44] <bvance> doleyb: Don't know what that is, but I do have a network status indicator on the systray. It shows one wired connection, which does not show in the system settings panel.
[05:44] <david_k-cfd> any easy way to install it?
[05:45] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: did you lsusb and find your camera?
[05:46] <david_k-cfd> doleyb, hello......yes, it found the camera
[05:46] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: and what happens in cheese?
[05:46] <david_k-cfd> it says No Camera Found
[05:47] <david_k-cfd> and I get the typical TV coloured stripes
[05:47] <david_k-cfd> in preferences, there isn't a camera to choose
[05:47] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: so what camera is it?
[05:48] <david_k-cfd> it is a Logitech quickcam USB
[05:48] <Bsims{fs}> doleyb: I don't want much I just want to change the layout
[05:48] <Bsims{fs}> Worst case I force it in
[05:50] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: did you follow the page? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=642015
[05:50] <Bsims{fs}> I want playlist right next to my cds in amarok how do I move it
[05:50] <doleyb> david_k-cfd: I don't know if those are good isntructions!
[05:50] <gaurav> hey
[05:50] <gaurav> amarok is not supported by 9.04?
[05:51] <sep1318> gaurav: it should be....even installed by default...
[05:51] <david_k-cfd> no, I didn't try those.....(I have kubuntu)............but I can give it a go. It's just that I'm a bit tired of reading and following so many other posts......I never thought it was going to be so complicated
[05:51] <doleyb> gaurav: they have replaced it with amarok2 now
[05:52] <gaurav> yeah
[05:52] <gaurav> i saw it
[05:52] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: amarok2 uses a plasmoid thingy for moving stuff.   You can right-click and get a menu to remove sections, or add them.
[05:53] <Bsims{fs}> eww but OK
[05:53] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: yeah i don't like it either!
[05:54] <Bsims{fs}> doleyb: where do I click
[05:54] <bokey> david_k-cfd: what logitech is this?
[05:54] <bokey> which
[05:54] <david_k-cfd> bokey: it is a quickcam USB
[05:54] <doleyb> Bsims{fs}: oh i can't tell, maybe you can ask #kde people
[05:54] <bokey> david_k-cfd: 'lspci | grep Log'
[05:55]  * Bsims{fs} weeps blood it should be a fraking drag and drop as God intended
[05:55] <hani_> Hello
[05:55] <hani_> i am Hani
[05:55] <hani_> i want install gnome
[05:55] <hani_> help me plz
[05:55] <doleyb> hani_: what is your language?
[05:55] <faileas> Bsims{fs}: god uses command line ;)
[05:56] <hani_> Persian sorry :D
[05:56] <david_k-cfd> bokey: I don't get anything from that command, but I do get "Bus 002 Device 004: ID 046d:0840 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express" by typing lsusb
[05:56] <bokey> hani_: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <doleyb> hani_: turkey?
[05:56] <bokey> david_k-cfd: oh yeah lsusb ;)
[05:57] <hani_> no :))
[05:57] <bokey> david_k-cfd: try http://nepbabu.livejournal.com/15650.html see how it goes
[05:57] <bokey> david_k-cfd: basically gspca is built right in Ubuntu these days but give it a manual shot anyhow
[05:58] <Bsims{fs}> faileas: I am typing this in irssi under GNU Screen on a urxvt brand xterm you were saying?
[05:58] <Bsims{fs}> Oh and the last bit recorded from God was :wq
[05:58] <faileas> Bsims{fs}: Ahh, a true belieever ;p
[05:59] <Bsims{fs}> faileas: I've been Linux full time from 1999
[05:59] <Bsims{fs}> If I wanted to mess with it I'd go back to Debian... at least it works between upgrades, though this was my smoothest one ever
[06:00] <genii> david_k-cfd: http://jmdsdf.yi.org/blog/index.php/2009/02/17/quickcam-express-046d-0840-in-ubuntu-jau-28
[06:00]  * Bsims{fs} grins my other two terms under this screen are slrn, under my own bash wrapper script... and links2 reading a ebookk
[06:01] <bokey> genii: so theres qc-usb already nice.
[06:01]  * genii hands bokey a coffee
[06:01] <faileas> bleh
[06:01]  * faileas notes tilda rather sucks compared to yakuake
[06:02] <david_k-cfd> genii: that looks very promising
[06:02]  * bokey takes it :)
[06:02] <david_k-cfd> genii: I'm on it
[06:02] <bokey> david_k-cfd: give genii one a shot
[06:03] <david_k-cfd> bokey: yeah, it looks good, doesn't it? I'm on it, will get back to you to report how it worked
[06:03] <bokey> david_k-cfd: should work pretty sure
[06:04] <g33knik> does anyone wanna give a semi newb some quick support with a lsb question?
[06:06] <doleyb> !ask|g33knik
[06:08] <g33knik> I am installing an embedded development environment that says it requires lsb 1.0, do i need to worry if all i did was apt-get install lsb? is there a way that I can specifically install 1.0
[06:09] <qcontinueum> where do i select a keyboard layout from?
[06:10] <doleyb> g33knik: maybe ##linux can help you.  or workingset
[06:10] <doleyb> qcontinueum: system settings, regional & language, keyboard layout
[06:11] <qcontinueum> doleyb: ah, there it is. Thanks!
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> How do I uninstall things? cd to the dir and rm?
[06:12] <doleyb> MushroomKingdom: lol it depends on how you installed it, but using rm is probably the wrong answer.
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> ah
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> I installed it though apt-get
[06:12] <g33knik> thanks doleyb
[06:12] <doleyb> MushroomKingdom: then that's how you uninstall.  Instead of apt-get install, apt-get remove
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> ah
[06:12] <MushroomKingdom> thank you
[06:18] <digdeep> hi, Is there any complete guide on converting ext3 to ext4?
[06:19] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you know what's the deal with the patches? there's a comment there that says they're not required
[06:22] <genii> david_k-cfd: From the bug report: "This bug was fixed in the package qc-usb - 0.6.6-6ubuntu1"
[06:22] <david_k-cfd> genii: I think I need them, 'cause when I run "make" I get plenty of errors
[06:22] <genii> david_k-cfd: What version does your:  apt-cache policy qc-usb                          report?
[06:22] <david_k-cfd> genii: but I don't even know what to download from the patches links
[06:23] <gosse> what was the apt-get for extra printer drivers? 465cn for example?
[06:23] <gosse> perdy pls?
[06:23] <genii> !info qv-usb jaunty
[06:23] <genii> !info qc-usb jaunty
[06:23] <genii> Hm
[06:23] <gosse> hey there genii :D
[06:23] <genii> Probably in -proposed or so
[06:23] <david_k-cfd> genii: it returns "W: Unable to locate package qc-usb"
[06:24] <gosse> genii: (gosse = lorecaster)
[06:24]  * genii slides gosse a coffee
[06:24] <genii> david_k-cfd: Give me a minute to look into it
[06:24] <david_k-cfd> genii: that's very kind from you, thanks
[06:25] <gosse> david_k-cfd: i cannot speak for everyone's experience, but genii is a blessing...
[06:26] <david_k-cfd> gosse: well, no matter what, he is pointing me in the right direction....already thankful for his help
[06:27] <qcontinueum> how do i go about installing vmware?
[06:27] <gosse> david_k-cfd: there are many wonderful people here, genii, aga, devilsadvocate, and others... they saved me from two strokes already, i'm sure.
[06:28] <MushroomKingdom> gosse: agreed.  Repository is Universe
[06:29] <gosse> i never felt as though my computer ever reached it's potential under a M$ flag
[06:29] <MushroomKingdom> agreed
[06:30] <genii> david_k-cfd: What reports for version:    apt-cache policy qc-usb-source                    ?
[06:30] <MushroomKingdom> Actually though, me having a fullout linux os was an accident. A sexy accident :)
[06:30] <billytwowilly> hey, is there any webpage explaining what is in all the ubuntu/kubuntu ppas?
[06:30] <david_k-cfd> genii: it reports this:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd> genni: qc-usb-source:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Installed: 0.6.6-6ubuntu2
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Candidate: 0.6.6-6ubuntu2
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>   Version table:
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>  *** 0.6.6-6ubuntu2 0
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>         500 http://mx.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
[06:30] <david_k-cfd>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:31] <RurouniJones> Welp, so far 9.04 looks shiny but bits have crashed already and it seems a bit less responsive than 8.04 with KDE 3.5
[06:31] <genii> Hm
[06:32] <perseid> I have the resolution set to 1600x1200, but when I log in the res os 2048x1536 until I go into the Display settings at which poinht it suddenly snaps back to 1600x1200.
[06:32] <gosse> i hate kde anyway, gnome is lighting-fast comparatively
[06:37] <billytwowilly> Sorry, I got logged out. Did anyone answer my question about PPA's? Is there any page that summarizes what is in all of them?
[06:37] <qcontinueum> nobody mentioned anything, sorry
[06:37] <gosse> never came up, billytwowilly
[06:37] <Geekguy> bokey: yo, i was able to figure out a way to get my system to boot (ATI Radeon issue)
[06:37] <gosse> oh?
[06:37] <billytwowilly> I'm still getting the hang of this quassel thing.
[06:38] <billytwowilly> maybe it didn't send before I got logged out.
[06:38]  * daskreech imagines MushroomKingdom rubbing transparency over himself
[06:38] <qcontinueum> [23:30] <billytwowilly> hey, is there any webpage explaining what is in all the ubuntu/kubuntu ppas?
[06:38] <qcontinueum> i got it :P
[06:38] <gosse> uhh.. dask?
[06:38] <gosse> that was more than a little wierd... don't ever change ;)
[06:38] <billytwowilly> then the question still stands. Is there any webpage that summarizes what is in all the ppa's?
[06:38] <daskreech> assuming that MushroomKingdom is a he :)
[06:39] <david_k-cfd> genii: I could download the patches, but to be honest, I don't know what to download from those links
[06:39] <daskreech> billytwowilly: Launchpad ?
[06:39] <genii> david_k-cfd: I'm also having some problem compiling it here (using module-assistant)
[06:40] <billytwowilly> daskreech: how do I get launchpad to summarize that?
[06:40] <daskreech> billytwowilly: As in waht's in all the PPAs?
[06:40] <daskreech> You probably don't want that
[06:40] <billytwowilly> yes, please.
[06:40] <daskreech> Almost assuredly you don't want that
[06:40] <gosse> BTW... add daskreech to the list of angels on this board.
[06:40] <billytwowilly> yes, what I really want is to know the gyst of what each guy is packaging.
[06:41] <daskreech> then you want a list of PPAs not a listing of whats in the PPAs
[06:41] <daskreech> A lot are duplicates
[06:41]  * geek_ tends to think you tend to find PPAs when you need to know it. Each PPA has its own webpage tho
[06:41] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you think it is a 9.04 problem?
[06:41] <billytwowilly> ok, a list of the ppas then.
[06:41] <perseid> After upgrading to 9.04 all of my NTFS partitions, even the USB drives magically work. Nifty.
[06:41] <billytwowilly> I found one list, but thhe names aren't obvious. (i.e they are named after the guy who is maintaining them)
[06:42] <daskreech> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ ?
[06:43] <billytwowilly> I found that.  Doesn't really tell me a lot.
[06:43] <billytwowilly> I don't know what abogani is, but I would guess it is the dude who maintains the ppa.
[06:44] <genii> david_k-cfd: Seems to also be in Debian, I found a bug report of theirs with the same issue. Seems to be kernel related
[06:45] <daskreech> billytwowilly: Right
[06:45] <SandGorgon> hmmm.. KDE4 port of konversation is already more usable than qassel
[06:45] <geek_> SandGorgon: neat ;p
[06:45]  * geek_ needs to try it at some point
[06:45] <daskreech> SandGorgon: You make it sound like that's surprising
[06:45] <carthik_> anyone with a thinkpad t500 on jaunty? want to know if the intel x4500 graphics card has issues with virtualscreen size
[06:45] <gosse> as it happens... i -love- konversation.
[06:45] <SandGorgon> daskreech: relieved...
[06:46] <qcontinueum> how do i got about installing vmware? "apt-get install vmware" doesn't do it...
[06:46] <geek_> ditto
[06:46] <gosse> it's a mind-numbingly beautiful program, it's even robin-proof!!! :D
[06:46] <geek_> qcontinueum: there should be instructions on the vmware site. You;ll need to get the tarball
[06:46] <SandGorgon> gosse: thank god for that
[06:46] <gosse> LOL
[06:46] <gosse> tired of me already sandgorgon?
[06:46] <gosse> saucy-face ;)
[06:47] <SandGorgon> gosse: oh no... getting rid of quassel has gotten me into a sweet mood already
[06:47] <geek_> SandGorgon: where did you get it from?
[06:47] <gosse> sandgorgon, now i've heard good things about quassel... but like all things, reports are mixed. it's all about personal experiences...
[06:47] <SandGorgon> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/konversation
[06:48] <gosse> forexample... it's sadistic how difficult it's been getting autocad to work for ANYTHING in linux... but 3-4 weeks later, still plugging away at it ;) resorted to RECOMPILING (as per directions) wine!
[06:48] <SandGorgon> gosse: true... just wanted something that is better configurable for colors - my eyes are notoriously finicky
[06:49] <gosse> SandGorgon; as a dyslexic migrain sufferer... i've had a great deal of fun trying to make the pain stop hurting
[06:49] <carthik_> if you make pain stop hurting, let me know
[06:49] <xevious> does 9.04 still use compiz for desktop effects, or does it use the native KDE effects?
[06:49] <qcontinueum> xevious: i believe that the effects are nativ
[06:50] <daskreech> xevious: It never used compiz for desktop effects
[06:50] <gosse> carthik_ i'm wiccan, but yet still not THAT magickal ;)
[06:50] <carthik_> :)
[06:50] <xevious> daskreech: hardy uses compiz-fusion if you enable them
[06:50] <billytwowilly>  SandGorgon:  quassel is the superior idea, but it's rough now.  I got it fixed now, but it was annoying.
[06:55] <geek__> Sweeet
[06:57] <SandGorgon> billytwowilly: how is wicd performing as compared to network-manager? is it integrated in the panel, play nice with notifications, suspend/resume ?
[06:58] <billytwowilly> SandGorgon: I don't know, I don't use it as far as I know.
[06:58] <gosse> it's taking a dogs-eternity to do the 'make' for this compile of wine-git... jeez... gotta have been a half hour at least... didn't even do the 'make-install' yet :P
[06:58] <faileas> yup. the KDE4 konversation branch rocks
[06:58] <doleyb> bobby1234: and make sure you put on the network plasmoid, of course
[06:58] <cspack> yes wicd is integrated in the panel and works fine with suspend/resume for me
[06:59] <SandGorgon> billytwowilly: hmm.. i thought you used wicd. network-manager is really not nice :(
[06:59] <billytwowilly> I don't know. I use whatever I had setup when I upgraded. i don't use wireless, so networking hasn't been a big thing of importance for me.
[07:00] <nitr0ix> is there anyway to disable Trash in kde?
[07:00] <david_k-cfd> genii: do you think it can be solved or will be a matter of waiting for updates?
[07:00] <gosse> here's a question... to set up my dual monitors before, i had to sudo nvidia-settings, but it tells me to do sudo nvidia-xconfig, then it says it's not installed... sudo apt-get install nvidia-xconfig tells me it cannot find the install material... where do i get it?
[07:01] <doleyb> gosse: just run nvidia-settings with no sudo?
[07:01] <daskreech> Yes
[07:01] <gosse> doleyb, i cannot change any settings in nvidia-settings without sudo... won't let me change the config in the program
[07:01] <doleyb> so what happens when you run nvidia-settings?
[07:01] <gosse> tells me to run nvidia-xconfig
[07:02] <genii> david_k-cfd: Right now I have no immediate answer. So I'd recommend waiting on an update, unless you want to just experiment.
[07:02] <nitr0ix> just run nvidia-xconfig its included with nvidia drivers
[07:02] <genii> It's after 2AM here, so I'm shortly /away for sleeping ....
[07:03] <doleyb> gosse: are you sure you've got nvidia drivers in properly?
[07:03] <bokey> pheww
[07:03] <david_k-cfd> genii: nah, I don't feel like experimenting....esp with this things, I'll have to wait then.....but hey, many thanks for your help, very nice from you
[07:03] <gosse> doleyb, perhaps not? when i finsih this work with wine, i'll try that...
[07:03] <bokey> http://vimeo.com/4281374 :)
[07:03] <bokey> nice remix
[07:04] <genii> david_k-cfd: np
[07:04] <bokey> and 4.2.2 is finally working with flash
[07:05] <nitr0ix> is there anyway that you could sort all wallpapers from "Get new wallpaper"  by resoulution?
[07:06] <SandGorgon> in KDE, i frequently have any text on screen (whether in cmd-shell, or window title, etc.) get distorted - I have to shut off compositing (alt-shift-f12) and turn it on to get rid of the distortion. Any idea, on how to debug this ?
[07:06] <daskreech> nitr0ix: In code :)
[07:06] <nitr0ix> i meant without messing with the source...
[07:09] <nitr0ix> whens kde 4.3 will be implemented to ubuntu?
[07:10] <nitr0ix> anyways.......disable trash completely....possible?
[07:12] <doleyb> Some of this jaunty graphical corruption is hilarious!  I just clicked on the network plasmoid, and in a konsole my wallpaper chunk appeared on the text... and then scrolled up as the text went by.
[07:13] <nitr0ix> lol chill ubuntu does not have 18 months of testing like debian does ;)
[07:13] <faileas> nitr0ix: debian releases are out... 'when they are ready' ;p
[07:14] <nitr0ix> yeah but lenny have been tested for 18 months before its renamed to Stable ;p
[07:14] <gosse> when i last tried debian, perhaps it was just that particular distro, it was command-prompt only... is debian as stable as the rumours say AND with gnome?
[07:15] <nitr0ix> meh think of it...software is old tho
[07:15] <troob> lol I just did "zoom out" from the thing in the upper right corner.
[07:15] <faileas> gosse: the issue i had with debian stable at the time was etch was anchient
[07:15]  * faileas ran lenny for a while, then swapped to ubuntu server
[07:16] <gosse> what are the virtues of running server? does it have -any- use for a desktop?
[07:16] <nitr0ix> yeah i tryed that but my sound was all choppy then got back to lenny...and figured out that i had to compile latest realtek drivers....
[07:16] <faileas> gosse: hmm, in my case, it was a CLI only system ;)
[07:17] <faileas> nitr0ix: i had to recompile alsa for a box with crystal audio sound
[07:17] <faileas> which is anchient
[07:17] <doleyb> gosse: lol when did you use debian?  1992?
[07:17] <gosse> cli?
[07:17] <bobby1234> doleyb, its detecting the network, but not accepting the passwd .. wht to do?
[07:17] <nitr0ix> dang how do you type to some person in konversation? lols
[07:17] <perseid> bokey:  How did you get Flash to work?
[07:17] <faileas> gosse: no point running x on a server
[07:17] <gosse> either very late 90's or very aerly 2000's... it was -years- ago... maybe it's just my ignorance again... nasty thing, that.
[07:18] <faileas> nitr0ix: just enough letters and tab ;p
[07:18] <doleyb> faileas: uh, if you're running x that Makes it a server :)
[07:18] <faileas> doleyb: as a role ;p
[07:18]  * faileas has a box mainly for mucking around with. LAMP stack, eventually IRC
[07:18] <dynja> %) download almost complete
[07:18] <Cannonaide320> hello
[07:18] <faileas> though i'm tempted to swap it for a cheap atom system
[07:18] <doleyb> gosse: Well debian has everything.   I couldn't find a 64 bit Linux Flash.
[07:22] <nitr0ix> i think i've read somewher ein adobe's site that they did 64bit plugin for linux i was like wtf!
[07:22] <dynja> which version is better for core2 quad: amd64 or 86
[07:22] <dynja> or there is no difference
[07:23] <yaa_> ?
[07:23] <nitr0ix> if you have less than 4gigs of ram no difference....allmost
[07:23] <yaa_> only 2? but going to add some more
[07:24] <nitr0ix> well only diffrence that i've seen is that 64bit sees more then 4gigs of ram
[07:24] <Cannonaide320> does anyone happen to know (and would be willing to share such info) where to find the MD5 hash for Kubuntu 9.0.4 i386 for the dvd version ?
[07:25] <marcello> ciao a tutti
[07:25] <nitr0ix> i've betrayed linux...i've installed vista yesterday...SP1....it lasted for 1 hour...then got removed...lucky i didnt buy it ...
[07:26] <yaa_> nitr0ix: thanx
[07:27] <yaa_> vista musdie
[07:27] <nitr0ix> true that
[07:27] <troob> !sound
[07:27] <nitr0ix> i quess i got used to linux....vista feels tooo slow
[07:29] <Cannonaide320> vista works pretty well in 64 bit if you have the hardware for it, but thats a lot of hardware investment,  I have one rig running it for games, everything else is going to Kubuntu 9.0.4
[07:29] <troob> lol make sure "enable sound system" is checked
[07:29] <nitr0ix> tho still kubuntu feels abit slower than arch...
[07:30] <nitr0ix> Windows seven even in beta is liek what 5 times faster and stable than vista...but ehm don't like ide of stealing kde loook
[07:30] <nitr0ix> idea*
[07:31] <faileas> lol
[07:31] <faileas> imitiation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)
[07:31] <nitr0ix> yeah...
[07:32] <faileas> besides looks arn't everything
[07:32] <nitr0ix> now the need amarok2 so it would replace WMP
[07:32] <nitr0ix> they*
[07:32] <faileas> lol
[07:32] <faileas> amarok2 is kde4
[07:32] <perseid> foobar2000
[07:32] <nitr0ix> well for me it all about look...
[07:32] <faileas> and will run on windows
[07:32] <faileas> not for me
[07:33] <bokey> perseid: 64-bit archs should have no problem running 32-bit code since they are backward compatible. are you sure your configs(flash,konqueror,kde) are good?
[07:33] <perseid> foobar is the way to go on Windows.
[07:33] <perseid> bokey: I only saw one version fo download and the .deb wouldn't even install.
[07:33] <Mushroom> Hm.. I dont get sound though any video in firefox...
[07:34] <yaa_> has anybody seen kde or gnome over ms windows?
[07:34] <nitr0ix> meh.....need to install wine now...got my 3 months free COH.......
[07:34] <gosse> what is the command to copy a file from current location to a given ~./ location?
[07:34] <nitr0ix> i heard that kde got ported to Mac but not windows..
[07:34] <yaa_> cp
[07:34] <nitr0ix> mv?
[07:34] <bokey> perseid: get the binary from adobe and try that.
[07:34] <gosse> cp? thx
[07:35] <perseid> That's where I got the .deb from.
[07:35] <Mushroom> How do I get sound on my videos in firefox?
[07:35] <bokey> perseid: chuck that into your ~/.mozilla/plugins and rescan in Konqueror. versions < 4.2.2 (on kde4.2.2) have failed to run as my adventure has shown.
[07:35] <Cannonaide320> flash stuff, and typically quicktime default to zero volume,  click the volume icon on the video
[07:35] <Fieldy> i'm trying to update to 9.04 from 8.10, following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu . I get an error that says "Unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first." i did a ps auwxxx | grep apt and neither of those is running. how do I get past this?
[07:36] <bokey> perseid: get the source (.tar.gz)
[07:36] <nitr0ix> is the "cp" and "mv" same?
[07:36] <bokey> no
[07:36] <yaa_> no
[07:36] <yaa_> moves and copies
[07:36] <Mushroom> doesnt help cannon, volumes max
[07:36] <nitr0ix> oh
[07:36] <Cannonaide320> everything else plays ok ?
[07:37] <Mushroom> normal videos have sound, just not browser
[07:37] <bokey> Fieldy: make sure they _really_ aren't running.
[07:37] <troob> Mushroom: I'm having the same problem with firefox/sound
[07:37] <Mushroom> troob: yeah actually I find theres alot of sound related problems with kubuntu so far
[07:38] <bokey> Fieldy: ps -A | egrep "adept|synaptic|apt-get|aptitude"
[07:38] <Fieldy> bokey: no results
[07:38] <bokey> once that is done, if still reports the same, delete the lock.
[07:38] <Fieldy> okay, where is the lock?
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: lemme see. wait it is somehwere in /var/cache/apt
[07:39] <Fieldy> i'll see if i can find it
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: yeah do that
[07:39] <Fieldy> bokey: /var/cache/apt/archives/lock ?
[07:39] <troob> mush: is your speaker icon in flash shown as red?
[07:39] <bokey> Fieldy: yep
[07:39] <Fieldy> curious. that was created over a month ago
[07:39] <Mushroom> nop
[07:40] <Fieldy> i'll remove it and try again
[07:40] <nitr0ix> so....again about the Trash anyway to disable it?
[07:40] <Mushroom> all my volume setting on the video and my sound are max
[07:40] <yaa_> var=`aptitude search flash | grep plugin | cut -d ' ' -f 4 `; sudo apt-get install $var
[07:40] <yaa_> will install flash plugins
[07:40] <yaa_> )
[07:41] <Fieldy> bokey: unfortunately, i'm still getting the error, i'll poke around for other lock files
[07:41] <Trog> hi all, I use jackcontrol "sound server" for my midi keyboard, but can't seem to get it working with "jaunty" anyone else the same?
[07:41] <bokey> Fieldy: can you paste the exact error again?
[07:42] <Fieldy> bokey: "Unable to get exclusive lock. This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first."
[07:42] <perseid> bokey: Copy the .so to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.9/plugins?
[07:42] <nitr0ix> reboot?
[07:43] <bokey> perseid: ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[07:43] <Mushroom> troob: fixed it, just sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:43] <bokey> Fieldy: hang on
[07:43] <Mushroom> now sound works :D
[07:43] <perseid> Well, I made that harder than it was. LOL
[07:43] <Fieldy> bokey: sure
[07:43] <troob> Mushroom: I'll give that a try
[07:43] <Mushroom> :D
[07:44] <Trog> anyone else use jack sound server, it seems to be connected to most of the midi or multi track programs, so I have to get it workin = )
[07:45] <bokey> Fieldy: ok do the manual way to see whats keeping it open: in terminal sudo lsof | grep "/var/cache"
[07:46] <bokey> perseid: make sure you rescan the plugin directories in konqueror
[07:47] <brand0con> anyone use banshee?
[07:47] <bokey> yep i have in the paste
[07:47] <bokey> past
[07:47] <sweet> кто нить по русски шпрехает??
[07:47] <nitr0ix> нет
[07:48] <Fieldy> bokey: okay there are a few results and i'm poking around, i'll see what i can figure out
[07:48] <brand0con> trying to get multimedia keys to work with banshee in kde.  anyone know how to do it?  already downloaded remoot
[07:48] <perseid> bokey: It doesn't work.I'm pretty sure it has to be a 64-bit version.
[07:48] <sweet> хотел бы услышать мнение о Kubuntu 9.04
[07:49] <bokey> Английский пожалуйста
[07:49] <bokey> Fieldy: yep
[07:49] <Fieldy> bokey: the only suspicious thing i found was "jaunty    22987       root  mem       REG        8,4  12408560    1630329 /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin" which i have killed off ; trying again.
[07:49] <bokey> perseid: hrmm ok
[07:49] <bokey> sure
[07:55] <Fieldy> bokey: that cleared it up, thank you for the time and support :)
[07:55] <rohan> is this improvement - adding spacers - available in kde 4.2.2 of kubuntu 9.04? http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Make_some_space
[07:55] <bokey> Fieldy: sure no worries
[07:55] <gigasoft> i can not execute sh file, any help
[07:56] <gosse> #winehq
[07:56] <gosse> sry
[07:57] <bokey> gigasoft: sh ./file;
[07:58] <AzAel> hi all, just done the juanty upgrade and now my picture frames dont work
[07:59] <perseid> In case anyone is curious: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html 64 bit Flash 10
[07:59] <gosse> how would i go about getting "x-mswinurl decoder"? involves running mp3's
[07:59] <bokey> perseid: argh.. had completely forgotten that one
[07:59] <bokey> :D
[07:59] <perseid> Watching a strongbad email as we speak. :)
[08:00] <bokey> gosse: that looks like mime header
[08:00] <bokey> perseid: :)
[08:01] <bokey> perseid: check this out: http://vimeo.com/4281374
[08:02] <bokey> pretty amazing shot
[08:04] <Nakkel> How do I get GPG backend to work in Jauntys Kmail?
[08:04] <gosse> bokey, that doesn't help me much :P
[08:06] <bokey> gosse: not sure there
[08:06] <bokey> sorry
[08:06] <gosse> pfft :P
[08:06] <gosse> if that's the worst thing that happens to me tonight... ;)
[08:06] <peaches> does ctrl+alt+backspace work any more in 9.04 X
[08:06] <gosse> not natively, peaches.
[08:07] <gosse> i missed it too ;)
[08:07] <peaches> what do you mean?
[08:07] <gosse> you have to turn it back on.
[08:07] <peaches> ok i need to do that
[08:07] <gosse> me too :P i'd love to know how, but i've forgotten.
[08:07] <peaches> did you turn your on
[08:07] <gosse> about 3 formats ago... had some MAJOR problems with my graphics card
[08:08] <peaches> i'm also missing right-clicks.. theyre going into some empty voide randomly...
[08:08] <StR|Sangreal> zdravím
[08:08] <gosse> maybe you're using a mac ;)
[08:08] <StR|Sangreal> i have just installed jaunty and have some issues to cope with
[08:08] <peaches> i wouldnt be caught dead with a mac haha
[08:09] <peaches> StR|Sangreal: welcome to the club
[08:09] <gosse> mac users sometimes come off as pretencious on commercials... but the systems are solid
[08:09] <bokey> !topic
[08:09] <StR|Sangreal> 1. after first crash, it doesnt start my HDA intel audio driver, but fades to pulseaudio
[08:09] <StR|Sangreal> 2. i dont have the WYSIWYG grub editor anymore
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> 3. i still get VIDEO GARBAGE!!!
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> 4. and it freezes a lot indeed :-/
[08:10] <StR|Sangreal> some advice please?
[08:11] <StR|Sangreal> please, how can i reload my audio?
[08:12] <bokey> StR|Sangreal: you can try alsa
[08:12] <faileas> StR|Sangreal: might try sudo alsa force-reload
[08:12] <demytry> channell it?
[08:13] <bokey> !it > demytry
[08:13] <igauz> yeah
[08:14] <igauz> 9.04 is gr8
[08:14] <igauz> things are a bit misplaced
[08:14] <igauz> overall fast enough
[08:16] <StR|Sangreal> ... fifth hard restart within last 5 minutes
[08:16] <husayn> anyone having screenshots of Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[08:16] <husayn> I m using 8.04 right now !!!
[08:16] <bokey> StR|Sangreal: so your X is locking up yeah?
[08:17] <peaches> did 9.04 have X upgrade
[08:17] <StR|Sangreal> please, anytime i start amarok, the system crashes... how can i reset the whole amarok?
[08:18] <tacosarecool> hello
[08:18] <husayn> reinstall amarok ?
[08:19] <tacosarecool> kubuntu is unusable to me because I have ubuntu and kubuntu installed but the kde is stuck at the splash screen
[08:22] <peaches> StR|Sangreal: delete its config file or start with different KDEHOME
[08:23] <daskreech> billttwowilly: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=
[08:24] <rufong> g'day all
[08:24] <gosse> blessed be :D
[08:24] <daskreech> hi Quintasan
[08:25] <Quintasan> daskreech: hiho
[08:25] <daskreech> yaa_: I've run KDE over Wndows
[08:25] <Quintasan> daskreech: good, I need to try it, amarok works?
[08:26] <yaa_> daskreech: how about it
[08:27] <rufong> <-jus in to check some settings. have a great day , cyas
[08:28] <daskreech> yaa_: It's weird but it works
[08:28] <daskreech> Quintasan: In Windows?
[08:28] <gosse> why does my 'system settings' seem thin... only 6 icons in the general tab, 2 in advanced?
[08:28] <Quintasan> daskreech: yup
[08:28] <daskreech> I wouldn't say that Amarok Works very well right now
[08:28] <daskreech>  It's not going to be great under windows
[08:28] <yaa_> daskreech: want to try it %)
[08:29] <Quintasan> screen-configurations.xml <-- wtf is this file?
[08:30] <gosse> anyone? anyone?
[08:35] <keymone> hi guys
[08:36] <Quintasan> keymone: hiho
[08:36] <nascentmind> hi. in kubuntu 9.04 when i click on taskbar it takes some time to register the click. why is that? i am using kde.
[08:36] <keymone> just installed 9.04 trying to enable broadcom restricted driver - it doesnt respond. pressing activate button turns driver item into grey but nothing happens. any ideas how to enable that driver?
[08:36] <mardi_soir> hello
[08:37] <mardi_soir> i m sorry
[08:37] <mardi_soir> but kubuntu is unusable
[08:37] <mardi_soir> i m not here to cry but to help
[08:37] <mardi_soir> a cant make bug report
[08:37] <mardi_soir> it's just  crazy
[08:38] <mardi_soir> (my computer works fine )
[08:38] <mardi_soir> since couple of hours i had to use magic sys -key
[08:38] <mardi_soir> in order to reboot
[08:38] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Right. What's the problem?
[08:38] <mardi_soir> while i was compiling openoffice
[08:39] <mardi_soir> daskreech: when the computer work a lot
[08:39] <mardi_soir> it seams to ... freezze
[08:39] <mardi_soir> i have a quite good configuration
[08:40] <IppatsuMan> mardi_soir: do you have an ATI video card?
[08:40] <mardi_soir> q6000 (2,4 GHz)  2 MB of ram DDR 2 800 Mhz)
[08:40] <mardi_soir> not at all
[08:40] <mardi_soir> nvidia
[08:40] <daskreech> which nvidia card?
[08:41] <mardi_soir> gigabyte 8600 512 RAM DDR2
[08:41] <keymone> also hardware drivers program does not showing nvidia driver to me
[08:41] <keymone> what is the problem?
[08:41] <mardi_soir> IppatsuMan: i want to contribute
[08:42] <gosse> how do allow the task-bar window icons to stack? i've got my (gnome) bottom taskbar
[08:42] <keymone> can i install those drivers from console?
[08:42] <gosse> i don't WANT them 48 px high, i want two rows of 24px each
[08:42] <mardi_soir> everithing seems to work fine ..
[08:42] <mardi_soir> but it does not
[08:42] <mardi_soir> i m on a powerfull
[08:42] <mardi_soir> computer
[08:42] <mardi_soir> but
[08:42] <mardi_soir> on a 1sempron on windows
[08:42] <mardi_soir> i m faster
[08:42] <mardi_soir> THATS the problem
[08:43] <daskreech> What is using your CPU?
[08:43] <IppatsuMan> gosse: right click on the taskbar, select "task manager settings" and under "Appearance" check "Force row settings"
[08:43] <mardi_soir> npviewer.bin is not a friend .. but you all already know that
[08:44] <mardi_soir> IppatsuMan: i am a kde3 user .. but becasue of life you know i have to use kububtu and .. i m quite disapointed
[08:45] <gosse> i don't get task manager settings... all i get is add to panel, properties, delete, new, help, about
[08:45] <daskreech> mardi_soir: You can use KDE3 in Jaunty
[08:45] <daskreech> !kde3
[08:46] <mardi_soir> in fact .. plasma fail when nvidia-setting  switch from a resolution to another
[08:46] <mardi_soir> sometime the irc client  go away
[08:46] <mardi_soir> and the compiz manager
[08:46] <mardi_soir> is less efficent than
[08:46] <daskreech> Kubuntu doesn't ship with Compiz
[08:46] <mardi_soir> my old kde3 + compiz
[08:47] <mardi_soir> one my gentoo
[08:47] <mardi_soir> (i m currently on kubuntu)
[08:47] <mardi_soir> (i m using twin view)
[08:47] <daskreech> Yeah win view with nvidia is kinda nasty
[08:48] <perseid> Does KDE have a minimize all windows shortcut like the Win+D shortcut on Windows?
[08:48] <mardi_soir> daskreech: how to welp i ma linux / advanced user but i have no skill to improve
[08:49] <IppatsuMan> gosse: which version of KDE are you using? You should right click on a free spot of the task manager bar
[08:49] <keymone> nobody had troubles with restricted drivers in 9.04?
[08:49] <gosse> gnome ;)
[08:49] <daskreech> perseid: alt+Ctrl+D
[08:49] <mardi_soir> K Desktop Environment
[08:49] <mardi_soir> Version 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2)
[08:49] <mardi_soir> on the nearly ubuntu
[08:49] <gosse> KDE is too slow... i want performance, so GNOME is the bomb
[08:49] <daskreech> mardi_soir: ok if you don't want desktop effects on you can turn them off
[08:50] <gosse> keymone, nope, i've had no problems yet.
[08:50] <IppatsuMan> gosse: sorry, I was thinking you were talking about the KDE task bar... I suppose this isn't the best channel to ask questions about GNOME
[08:51] <gosse> and my system settings only has 6 icons on the general tab, 2 in advanced... thought there was more when i was using the same 9.04 last week?
[08:51] <mardi_soir> daskreech: the fact is that i m a GNU/Linux/gentoo user .. and on my desktop kde3.5 works very ver y fine ( very quik no freeze since many years ) .. i just tryed today ubuntu with the ubuntserver flavor then i put kubuntu-destop .. and it 's quit e unusable
[08:51] <gosse> IppatsuMan, no worries... i've only come here for my general problems, usually it's okay. thanks for the effort.
[08:52] <daskreech> mardi_soir: well would you like to use KDE3 then?
[08:52] <gosse> i remember i went into the system setings, advanced tab, and changed which programs i wanted on startup
[08:53] <mardi_soir> daskreech: i m not a end user .. my own computer works fine one kde3 .. but i have no skill i m just trying to help
[08:53] <mardi_soir> how can i do
[08:53] <mardi_soir> in order to improve
[08:53] <mardi_soir> kde4 :)
[08:53] <mardi_soir> im not dev
[08:54] <daskreech> Well we need to know what's wrong :)
[08:54] <rubinho> hello andybody who can help in upmixing 2.0 sound to 5.1
[08:54] <daskreech> Your nvidia drivers might be off
[08:54] <daskreech> I know that Twinview has had problems on some cards
[08:55] <david__> hi
[08:55] <mardi_soir> daskreech: ok .. il try another wah but know that the same computer works fine on a (entoo + kde3 + compiz  )
[08:55] <mardi_soir> g
[08:55] <mardi_soir> ill
[08:56] <daskreech> mardi_soir: try and turn off desktop effects to see if that makes a big difference
[08:56] <david__> I install the g++ compiler from the Adept but it doesnt appear at any place why?
[08:56] <daskreech> alt+F3 -> Window properties -> desktop effects
[08:56] <david__> some one knows how to use it?
[08:56] <gosse> david_, may have to reboot :D i find that helps, or logout-login
[08:56] <mardi_soir> daskreech:  ok i will ..
[08:57] <david__> thanks but I rebbot already
[08:57] <david__> nothing happens
[08:57] <gosse> sorry then :) good luck
[08:57] <keymone> gosse: who can i talk to if i do have problems with restricted drivers manager?
[08:57] <david__> ok
[08:57] <SSJ_GZ> david__: g++ is a command-line only app.
[08:57] <IppatsuMan> david__: g++ is a command line only program, you won't find anywhere in the menus.
[08:58] <gosse> i have no idea... post the question for all to see, aond someone's bound to answer sooner or later
[08:58] <mardi_soir> daskreech: my hope is to make bugg report but without computer skill ( im not a dev (again))
[08:58] <david__> command line, so how can use it then?
[08:58] <mardi_soir> advanced user but no skill in dev
[08:59] <SSJ_GZ> david__: Run g++ from the command-line.
[08:59] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Oh well certainly but just saying that it is worse doesn't help. Try and find out what is using up a lot of memory or a lot of CPU
[08:59] <david__> command line is like the terminal?
[08:59] <daskreech> Turn off 3D effects to see if your video card is having a problem
[09:00] <SSJ_GZ> david__: Yes.
[09:00] <mardi_soir> daskreech: ok i m on it
[09:00] <david__> ok
[09:00] <daskreech> !bug
[09:00] <david__> thank you very much
[09:00] <michael_> Hi just got kubuntu 9.04, but when booting the live cd I only get a console, no X. It worked with the beta versions, but not the new one. Any ideas?
[09:01] <daskreech> lazy bot
[09:01] <david__> the other day I see on the internet a website that offer a version of kubuntu named satanic kubuntu
[09:02] <daskreech> I think you mean Ubuntu :)
[09:02] <mardi_soir> daskreech: (another .. thing .. when you make a netinstall and use ext4 .. on the first but .. a fsck is made .. .. and reboot and then it's fine ( i obsrve this 4 times since today)
[09:02] <mardi_soir> boot
[09:02] <daskreech> But yes it'sa joke for Christian Ubuntu
[09:02] <gosse> found it!!! startup-manager! :D
[09:02] <david__> and it works fine?
[09:02] <esperegu> how to get flash again after upgrading to 9.04 ?
[09:03] <daskreech> david__: They changed the wallpaper to have fire
[09:03] <david__> because looks very cool
[09:03] <david__> exactly is the same
[09:03] <SandGorgon> esperegu: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:03] <daskreech> mardi_soir: ok :-) I need to see a netinstall
[09:03] <esperegu> SandGorgon: if that would work......
[09:04] <esperegu> SandGorgon: I had working flash. now it does not anymore. I removed it purged it but insta/ling it again maues no difference.
[09:04] <mardi_soir> Darkstar: with ext4 exclusively i had this problem
[09:05] <mardi_soir> not with ext3
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> hej! i still have the problem with wireless lan and network manager
[09:05] <mardi_soir> and not with xfs
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> networkmanager doesnt want to connect
[09:05] <dapper-daniel> it does not set the essid
[09:05] <mardi_soir> daskreech: sorry not Darkstar
[09:06] <SandGorgon> esperegu. copy libflashplayer.so into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> iwconfig says "Access Point: Not-Associated"
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> and the essid is wrong
[09:07] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Well a) ext4 is new so somethings may be for caution and b) there is a known issue with ext4 and GNOME/KDE so there might be extra things as well.
[09:07] <dapper-daniel> even uncrypted networks dont work
[09:08] <daskreech> mardi_soir: Both the Desktop Environments and the ext4 team are working to get this resolved
[09:08] <MinusSeven> if I install Kubuntu 9.04,  will the sound work with two programs at the same time?
[09:08] <esperegu> SandGorgon: found a bug report... the suggested solution did work: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin\* ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:08] <david__> I have a question,there are  more channels like this for chat?
[09:09] <gosse> night room
[09:09] <mardi_soir> daskreech: glad to know this .. remember . i dd be glad to help .. but i have no skill too do this if i watch what you all dev do
[09:09] <david__> how can you, change the server
[09:11] <daskreech> mardi_soir: http://techbase.kde.org/Contribute/Bugsquad/Guide
[09:12] <daskreech> david__: Server or room ?
[09:12] <david__> room
[09:12] <daskreech> !ot | david__
[09:13] <mardi_soir> daskreech: fine .. i ll read this thanks for your time
[09:13] <david__> oh,
[09:13] <david__> cool
[09:14] <david__> Im very new on this , but its amazing specially the blender
[09:14] <IppatsuMan> From time to time my brand new Kubuntu Jaunty freezes: any hd activity stops, the mouse won't move... a solid freeze. My best bet is that it's a problem with X 1.6.0 and my ATI video card (as dfaure reports here http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3942 ). Is there any workaround known? I'm on a 32bit system so I can't use dfaure's debs.
[09:15] <daskreech> david__: not the kitchen sink?
[09:15] <daskreech> :-)
[09:17] <RurouniJones> Ye gods, how on earth do you install mysql on 9.04. There are so many options and wierd naming schemes, 5.1.31 which is really 5.0.75 which is...
[09:17] <daskreech> !info mysql
[09:18] <RurouniJones> That would be the reason then
[09:18] <daskreech> !info mysql-client
[09:18] <daskreech> Ah there we go
[09:18] <RurouniJones> Hmm, but there is also a 5.1.31
[09:19] <RurouniJones> which is probably 5.0.76 or some such nonsense
[09:19] <Mamarok> RurouniJones: no, not really
[09:20] <Mamarok> it's there because of Amarok
[09:20] <RurouniJones> sod it, back to the command line, the packageit app is just too damn convoluted when searching for mysql stuff.
[09:21] <daskreech> Yeah I'm still trying to get searching in kpackagekit
[09:21] <Skapare> what GIF decoder does Konqueror use?
[09:21] <RurouniJones> I much prefer the old KDE 3.5 package manager I have to say
[09:21] <daskreech> Sometimes when I close it and open it I get very different results
[09:22] <daskreech> Yeah but no one works on that anymore.
[09:22] <Mamarok> RurouniJones: if you want a really good package manager GUI, use Synaptic, state of the art
[09:22] <daskreech> The code is there along with an offer to work on it
[09:22] <Mamarok> it's ugly but it works
[09:22] <daskreech> adept was better
[09:22] <perseid> I'm trying to set up tvtime. My TV card is detected, but tvtime is convinced it wants to use my webcam instead.
[09:23] <Skapare> I'm wondering if this is a Konqueror issue ... when I view a page with multi-part GIFs, it blinks them like it's assuming they are animations
[09:23] <RurouniJones> I shall give that a go after mysql has finished installing
[09:24] <Parlotti> I have tried to set nano to line wrap at 72 but nothing happens. I need it to auto line wrap since I use it in yakuake and mutt
[09:26] <Edulix> hi
[09:31] <Parlotti> can anyone tell me how to make nano auto text warp when being used with mutt through a ykuake terminal?
[09:32] <alakoo> Anyone have ideas why I can't get wobbly windows to work with compiz fusion?
[09:32] <Edulix> hi
[09:32] <Edulix>  hi, where can I download the img file for ubuntu (instead of the one for ubuntu netbook remix)?
[09:33] <Parlotti> alakoo: have you tried making sure you are using the latest graphic drivers? That worked for me afte they were installed and I rebooted
[09:33] <alakoo> Edulix:  http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:34] <alakoo> Parlotti:  I used the "recommender" ones, I'll try using the most recent ones.
[09:34] <alakoo> *d
[09:34] <amgarchIn9> do you feel in 9.04 that repeat rate for pressed keys is slower?
[09:35] <eagles0513875> anyone use uck in here
[09:36] <RurouniJones> Anyone had any issues with Dragon Player displaying only a white screen when playing an vi?
[09:36] <RurouniJones> avi
[09:36] <alakoo> RurouniJones:  you're likely missing plugins or coders
[09:37] <RurouniJones> They were working a bootup ago
[09:37] <Parlotti> Hello I need help with making nano auto wrap text when emailing with mutt in a yakuake terminal
[09:37] <alakoo> If not, the avi-file may be corrupt, have you tried running totem?
[09:37] <RurouniJones> I think it may have stopped working when I installed the recommended extras that dragon wanted
[09:38] <alakoo> RurouniJones: The new stuff you installed may be incompatible with the older plugins that worked.
[09:38] <RurouniJones> Hruagh
[09:38] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: try installing kubuntu-restricted-extras that will install any proprietary codecs. also have you tried vls
[09:38] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: vlc
[09:39] <RurouniJones> No, my net connection is dog slow so download and installing extra stuff takes time, I'll give the restricted extras a go.
[09:42] <etienne> hello / bonjour
[09:43] <eagles0513875> !fr | etienne
[09:43] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: restricted extras will take some time besides codecs there is java and flash and other stuff
[09:43] <RurouniJones> I know, I looked at the package list
[09:44] <yaa_> cannot install nvidia drivers
[09:44] <RurouniJones> I was wonering why it is trying to install the openjdk
[09:45] <RurouniJones> Ok, still got white screen now getting error messages about how my normal sound system is now b0rked and falling back to pulse audio.
[09:46] <RurouniJones> Bugger it, back to 8.04.2
[09:46] <yaa_> on nvidia 9600 gt
[09:47] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: i kinda have that issue but i have analog and digital if you want to file a bug i can confirm it on my rig
[09:48] <eagles0513875> RurouniJones: there is something wiht pulseaudio that if you go back to the default and use the script to restart it still doesnt work. audio will work after a reboot
[09:48] <etienne> ok i'll try in english : after upgrading to jaunty i do have a problem with k3b : want burn data dvd
[09:53] <superwad> would anybody be able to help me configure X to work properly with my new display?
[09:57] <RurouniJones> Right, reboot apparently fixed dragon (rebooting linux without updating a kernel...what next). Now I have lost the main volume control in the bottom right of the screen. Any ideas how you can get it back? It isn't a plasmoid by the looks of it
[09:57] <superwad> run KMix?
[09:58] <RurouniJones> Hmm, that started kmix but not as a panel icon but as an app that closed without doing anything.
[09:59] <superwad> odd.  that's the program that's running as an icon
[09:59] <RurouniJones> Probably depends how you start it
[10:05] <MinusSeven> is PulseAudio the default with 9.04?
[10:06] <B-Minus> hi all
[10:06] <B-Minus> i like 9.04 so far but i have some fatal crashes :s
[10:06] <superwad> MinusSeven: i believe th release notes said it's installed by mistake
[10:06] <superwad> so you need to remove it
[10:06] <MinusSeven> isn't PulseRadio better?
[10:07] <MinusSeven> Audio
[10:07] <B-Minus> when i 'play' with kpackagekit its crashing
[10:07] <MinusSeven> i mean
[10:07] <digdeep> Jaunty: my firefox menu buttons looks like this --> http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/977/screenf.jpg, anyway to fix it?
[10:07] <MinusSeven> when I tried kubuntu 8.10, I found sound only worked with one program at a time
[10:07] <superwad> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Pulseaudio%20inadvertently%20enabled%20in%20Kubuntu%20when%20installing%20from%20DVD%20or%20upgrading%20with%20apt-get
[10:07] <digdeep> It is without any decoration.
[10:09] <Bischoop> shit, were mistaken with distributions :-)
[10:09] <Bischoop> nebora
[10:12] <yaa_> anybody
[10:12] <yaa_> help me with nvidia drivers
[10:12] <yaa_> whats wrong with them
[10:13] <yaa_> when installing it shows error
[10:13] <yaa_> error of gui utility for hw drivers
[10:13] <yaa_> uuntu9 4
[10:13] <yaa_> %(
[10:14] <yaa_> i ve got nvidia geforce9600 gt card
[10:14] <shadyzay> hi guys
[10:14] <shadyzay> I'm having firewall issues after upgrading to 9.04
[10:18] <yaa_> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh
[10:19] <llturro> Wow! This time kubuntu team made it!
[10:19] <llturro> Thank you all.
[10:22] <alecseyyy> dctv ghbdtn
[10:22] <alecseyyy> всем привет
[10:22] <yaa_> привет
[10:23] <zoiss> hi guys ...i have a soundcard based on creative x-fi and i'd like to set up digital output to my receiver. i got analog 2 channel sound output running with oss. does anybody know how to add spdif output?
[10:23] <alecseyyy> Кто то сталкивался с проблемой skype
[10:23] <alecseyyy> и гарнитура беспроводна
[10:24] <alecseyyy> я
[10:24] <alecseyyy> спарить их
[10:24] <Mamarok> !ru | alecseyyy
[10:24] <alecseyyy> !ru
[10:24] <Mamarok> oh bot where arest thou :(
[10:25] <Mamarok> alecseyyy: join #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <alecseyyy> join #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <superwad> use /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:25] <alecseyyy> толкомскажите
[10:25] <superwad> don't even know what that says
[10:26] <Mamarok> alecseyyy: please, English only in this channel
[10:26] <alecseyyy> use /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:26] <superwad> alecseyyy: just type "/j #ubuntu-ru"
[10:26] <alecseyyy> как к русскоязычному сообществу подключиться?
[10:26] <superwad> only: /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:26] <Mamarok> oh man, where are the ops when you need them, no bot around
[10:27] <alecseyyy> only: /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:27] <superwad> not getting the hang of it
[10:27] <alecseyyy> just type /j #ubuntu-ru
[10:28] <alecseyyy> всем привет
[10:28] <Fieldy> !nvidia
[10:28] <superwad> yay, he found it
[10:28] <Mamarok> Fieldy: the bot is not here at the moment
[10:28] <Fieldy> ah. trying to get nvidia 180 drivers working again on 9.04
[10:29] <IppatsuMan> alecseyyy: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[10:29] <Mamarok> Riddell: ping
[10:29] <darkenergy> why is shipit down? isn't that lost revenue?
[10:29] <superwad> IppatsuMan: i think he got it
[10:29] <superwad> he's in the channel now
[10:29] <Mamarok> darkenergy: shipIt doesn't generate revenue :)
[10:29] <superwad> maybe somebody here can help me with my issues with xorg and not displaying the proper resolution
[10:30] <IppatsuMan> good :)
[10:30] <superwad> my xorg.conf clearly has my desired resolution set, but it won't take it.  i get kicked back to 1280x1024 instead of 1920x1080
[10:31] <superwad> and what's more, in the display settings none of my resolutions are in there, but the ones that are are a jumbled mess
[10:32] <superwad> wrong button :(
[10:32] <superwad> so, am i crazy?  shouldn't my settings be taking effect?
[10:35] <eagles0513875> hey Mamarok where can i find the pgp key for the experimental repo ?
[10:36] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: read the launchpad.net page where you found the repo...
[10:36] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: im rather confused at the moment im trying to add the key via command line
[10:36] <Quintasan> superwad: backup your xorg.conf and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[10:36] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: the instructions are *on* that page
[10:37] <brett__> hey all, just updated from kubuntu 8.10 to kubuntu 9.04 through adept and now my battery level has disappeared from system tray, and knetworkmanager doesn't start on startup, i have to start it manually, otherwise i have no network connections. how do i fix these?
[10:37] <yaa_> nvidia need help
[10:37] <yaa_> OMG
[10:37] <yaa_> UBOTTU u say ))
[10:37] <eagles0513875> yaa_: you installed the latest one right
[10:37] <yaa_> yes
[10:38] <yaa_> 9 10
[10:38] <eagles0513875> brett__: its been replaced by a plasmoid add it
[10:38] <superwad> Quintasan: i've done that and it just ends up stripping everything from my configuration
[10:38] <yaa_> 180 glx
[10:38] <superwad> including all my nvidia settings
[10:38] <eagles0513875> yaa_: try the one before the latest one and see if you ahve any issues
[10:38] <Quintasan> brett__: Do you know how to unlock widgets?
[10:38] <yaa_> i did try
[10:38] <Quintasan> superwad: hmmm
[10:38] <yaa_> 177 173
[10:38] <eagles0513875> still nothing
[10:38] <yaa_> yeah
[10:38] <eagles0513875> yaa_: would file a bug as well
[10:38] <Quintasan> superwad: have you tried launching it with sudo?
[10:38] <superwad> only did it with sudo
[10:38] <yaa_> u thing its a bug?
[10:38] <superwad> i've also tried the nvidia-settings
[10:39] <eagles0513875> yaa_:  it has to be a bug
[10:39] <Quintasan> superwad: search /var/log/Xorg* for errors
[10:39] <yaa_> (((
[10:39] <yaa_> the same was on 8 10
[10:40] <eagles0513875> yaa_: also look in dmesg see if anything shows up there
[10:40] <brett__> quintasan: i know how to add widgets to my dashboard, is that what you mean?
[10:40] <eagles0513875> brett__: ya thats what you gotta do for network manager as well as battery
[10:41] <brett__> ok great :) thanks will do
[10:41] <eagles0513875> no problem
[10:41] <eagles0513875> also there is a new replacement for adept too btw brendonw
[10:41] <eagles0513875> mt
[10:41] <eagles0513875> brett__:
[10:41] <brett__> whats the replacement?
[10:41] <Quintasan> brad_: if you want them to appear on panel use the cashew that appears on panel
[10:41] <eagles0513875> brett__: kpackagekit
[10:42] <yaa_> eagles0513875: do not see anything suitable
[10:42] <brett__> eagles0513875: great, thanks for that!
[10:43] <eagles0513875> yaa_: ok check the xorg logs for anything
[10:43] <eagles0513875> brett__: no prob
[10:43] <yaa_> il paste them
[10:44] <eagles0513875> yaa_: im not much help with xorg to be honest
[10:44] <eagles0513875> yaa_: what kinda video card do you have
[10:44]  * eagles0513875 starts getting frustrated at trying to find this pgp key
[10:44] <Quintasan> superwad and yaa_: please put /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin and paste the link here
[10:45] <yaa_> eagles0513875:  pasteu.buntu.com/157787/
[10:45] <yaa_> i ve got nvidia geforce9600 gt card
[10:45] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: kubuntu-experimental?
[10:45] <eagles0513875> ya
[10:45] <eagles0513875> Quintasan: im trying to add the key via commandl ine
[10:45] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa
[10:45] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: don't be suprised if KRuner wont work
[10:46] <superwad> http://pastebin.com/m2f0f7922
[10:46] <superwad> yea, i'm seeing some errors in there relating to my resolution
[10:46] <eagles0513875> ty mamrok
[10:46] <superwad> it's properly detecting my display though, so that's good
[10:46] <yaa_> Quintasan: www.paste.ubuntu.com/157787/
[10:48] <Quintasan> superwad: ok, paste your xorg.conf
[10:48] <Quintasan> superwad: you use pastebinit?
[10:48] <Quintasan> yaa_: I'm unable to access it
[10:48] <superwad> no
[10:48] <superwad> http://pastebin.com/m140b499b
[10:49] <superwad> is that some automated pastebin dumping program?
[10:49] <Quintasan> superwad: yup :)
[10:49] <superwad> sweet
[10:49]  * superwad installs
[10:49] <yaa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157787/
[10:49] <yaa_> this is correct
[10:49] <yaa_> sorry
[10:50] <Quintasan> superwad: you can use it like this: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit   :P
[10:50] <superwad> that's awesome
[10:50] <superwad> yea, that's installed now :D
[10:51] <Quintasan> yaa_: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[10:51] <yaa_> why
[10:51] <yaa_> ??
[10:51] <Quintasan> yaa_: something is not installed
[10:52] <yaa_> what exactly
[10:52] <Quintasan> yaa_: dunno, what you installed so far?
[10:52] <Quintasan> superwad: http://pastebin.com/f3067f9d <--- try copying resolution related lines from mine :P
[10:53] <yaa_> nvidia glx 180
[10:53] <superwad> Quintasan: you have no resolution related lines
[10:53] <Quintasan> wat
[10:53] <yaa_> Quintasan: 180 nvidia glx
[10:53] <Quintasan> ....
[10:53] <yaa_> OMG
[10:53] <Quintasan> I forgot I did reinstall :P
[10:54] <superwad> :P
[10:54] <yaa_> ((
[10:55] <Quintasan> yaa_: 32 or 64 bits?
[10:55] <yaa_> 64
[10:55] <yaa_> previous was 32 but did the same
[10:56] <yaa_> 8 10 i mean
[10:56] <Quintasan> yaa_: I guess you tried nvidia-xconfig
[10:56] <yaa_> i did
[10:56] <Quintasan> yaa_: paste it
[10:56] <yaa_> ok
[10:57] <Quintasan> superwad: hmm I'm suppose your card can use 1920x1080 (even my shitty Radeon 9550 can do this :P)
[10:57] <yaa_> what to paste--command output or xorg conf
[10:57] <yaa_> Quintasan: ?
[10:57] <Quintasan> yaa_: xorg.conf
[10:57] <yaa_> ok
[10:58] <superwad> Quintasan: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=87926
[10:58] <superwad> according to that, it may not be able to fully support the max resolution
[10:58] <superwad> but even so, i was able, not 4 hours ago, to display 1680x1050
[10:59] <yaa_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/157800/
[10:59] <yaa_> Quintasan: here it is
[10:59] <Quintasan> superwad: maybe it's a problem with your graphics card, got diffrent card to test it?
[11:00] <superwad> none that play nice with kubuntu
[11:00] <superwad> they're all ATI and i have so many problems with ati cards
[11:01] <Quintasan> superwad: what ATI card do you have?
[11:01] <Quintasan> yaa_: this look good. However looks like the driver is not installed correctly
[11:02] <superwad> not sure if they still work, but i have a ATW 9600 XT and a radeon 9600 pro
[11:02] <Quintasan> yaa_: try reinstalling it, I can't think of other solution
[11:02] <Quintasan> superwad: 9600 worked good for me
[11:02] <superwad> i think the 9600 worked last time i used it
[11:02] <Quintasan> superwad: till I tried overclocking >_<
[11:02] <yaa_> Quintasan: you mean nvidia-glx-180?
[11:03] <Quintasan> yaa_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_180.51.html
[11:03] <Quintasan> yaa_: this
[11:03] <yaa_> OK
[11:04] <superwad> i've just been missing it for a while it seems
[11:04] <superwad> turns out to have been in a computer that's been retired for some time
[11:04] <superwad> i might have to try that card again
[11:05] <superwad> Quintasan: what drivers would i use for the 9600?
[11:05] <dannu> hi
[11:05] <dannu> im ubuntu hardy and huawei e220
[11:05] <dannu> works fine
[11:06] <superwad> yay
[11:06] <Quintasan> superwad: ati, fglrx is no longer supporting R300 series I think  (I'll try installing it anyways :P)
[11:14] <julitro> a
[11:14] <superwad> Quintasan: yea, the latest version appears to have dropped support for the 9600
[11:15] <superwad> oh well, i'll figure it out later
[11:15] <superwad> thanks though for trying
[11:15] <julitro> hola
[11:17] <|PaperTiger|> How do I install the drivers for my graphics card on Jaunty?
[11:18] <_gl> hi I just upgraded my eee pc 701 to jaunty and lost the wifi. I can see the networks, but konqueror does not seem to find the network. Any ideas?
[11:18] <dev29aug> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu???
[11:19] <_gl> !wifi
[11:19] <rolandb> Ubuntu: use Gnome desktop. Kubuntu use KDE desktop
[11:19] <dev29aug> ok
[11:20] <_bischoop> dev29aug: Kubuntu is ubuntu, but Kubuntu got KDE (window manager)
[11:20] <dev29aug> which is more powerful
[11:20] <_bischoop> rolandb: :-) cheers
[11:20] <dev29aug> actually i am a beginner
[11:20] <_bischoop> dev29aug: try both
[11:20] <rolandb> Yes, but you can install both KDE and Gnome programs on both desktops
[11:21] <dev29aug> i dont know the difference between KDE and gnome...
[11:21] <_bischoop> even more :-)
[11:21] <rolandb> Btw, I'm also a beginner with Ubuntu
[11:21] <dev29aug> i only know that its like gui
[11:21] <_bischoop> dev29aug: wich u like more?
[11:21] <dev29aug> i installed ubuntu 8.10
[11:21] <_bischoop> Install Ubuntu :-)
[11:21] <dev29aug> through virtual box
[11:22] <_bischoop> then u might install KDE if u just will want try it
[11:22] <julitro> instala ubuntu y luego pones kde en ubuntu
[11:22] <dev29aug> okk
[11:22] <rolandb> KDE has a more polished look, but there are bits in Gnome I like more.
[11:22] <zoiss> hi guys ...i have a soundcard based on creative x-fi and i'd like to set up digital output to my receiver. i got analog 2 channel sound output running with oss. does anybody know how to add spdif output?
[11:22] <julitro> puedes alternar entre sesiones
[11:22] <rolandb> Ideally I want parts from both
[11:22] <dev29aug> thnx
[11:22] <dev29aug> i am learning all the operating systems
[11:23] <_bischoop> rolandb: is Ubuntu your first Linux?
[11:23] <|PaperTiger|> How can I revert back to Intreped?
[11:23] <rolandb> I have used Ubuntu with 8.10 but swithched to Kubuntu with 9.04
[11:23] <_bischoop> dev29aug: FANTASTIC :-)
[11:23] <dev29aug> this time i have 8 operating systems in my laptop
[11:23] <julitro> 8?
[11:23] <_bischoop> dev29aug: you're great :-)
[11:23] <dev29aug> 7 are working on virtual box
[11:23] <dev29aug> yaa 8 OS
[11:23] <dev29aug> I have a dell laptop
[11:24] <julitro> dell es lo mejor!
[11:24] <_bischoop> nebora :-)
[11:24] <dev29aug> currently i m chatting from fedora 10
[11:24] <_bischoop> RH :-) mine first Linux :-)
[11:24] <dev29aug> i also have freeBSD
[11:24] <faileas> lol
[11:24] <dev29aug> FreeBSD is totaly different
[11:25] <_bischoop> I like Slackware
[11:25] <faileas> dev29aug: i'm planning on getting an OS/2 VM set up ;p
[11:25] <dev29aug> But i am fascinated about ubuntu
[11:25] <rolandb> I actually tried Redhat a couple of years ago, but quickly switch back to Windows.
[11:25] <_bischoop> yeah I know, wanna try it, I mean PC-BSD
[11:25] <_bischoop> I want choose BSD or Slackware 4 server
[11:25] <dev29aug> ok
[11:26] <|PaperTiger|> Is there a downgrade path to go back to Intreped?
[11:26] <_bischoop> but also I'm fascinating with ubuntu like u, but I like Kubuntu :-)
[11:26] <dev29aug> Tell me anyone know thw way to install MAC OS on intel machine through Virtual Box
[11:26] <dev29aug> ??
[11:26] <_bischoop> |PaperTiger|: sorry PAL, not :-)
[11:26] <|PaperTiger|> _bischoop, ah, damn it.