[00:03] <oerheks> AuroraAvenue, that looks promissing ...
[00:04] <oerheks> * as it has a sdcard reader
[00:17] <AuroraAvenue> oerheks, but can it play rad.io with ubuntu ? was the question to listen out for :)
[00:20] <helmsdeep> matjam, ugh i'm not making much progress on this :(
[00:20] <helmsdeep> matjam, files created always come out as 664 and only the owner of the file can edit, not group
[00:22] <oerheks> AuroraAvenue, there is no guide for it, you are the 1st one i guess
[00:22] <matjam> helmsdeep: the users need to be a member of the same primary group
[00:22] <matjam> helmsdeep: or, they need to use chgrp
[00:23] <helmsdeep> matjam, both users are in the same primary group
[00:24] <rcm888> xrdp blank screen! compiled from source xrdp and xorgxrdp
[00:25] <matjam> helmsdeep: did you log out both users before trying? you might want to reboot first.
[00:27] <akuhcap> Hello, where can i found a mounted disk in linux?
[00:30] <Bashing-om> akuhcap: ' sudo parted -l ' ??
[00:32] <akuhcap> Bashing-om: Yeah ive got that its on /dev/sdb
[00:33] <akuhcap> In my old linux distro, the files were mounted in '/media/usb0/
[00:33] <Bashing-om> akuhcap: that "/media/usb0/" indicates an external source .
[00:35] <akuhcap> Bashing-om: i know, in my new distro though, it doesn't show those directories
[00:37] <Bashing-om> akuhcap: What are you doing, and what do you expect to happen ?
[00:38] <AuroraAvenue> oerheks, perhaps I should archive them for later use ?
[00:39] <AuroraAvenue> Like this one     https://archive.fo/Zgz1q
[00:40] <krytarik> akuhcap: Simply "mount" would show it all.
[01:11] <rcm888> where is XRDP channel?
[01:15] <shpingrlde> i used testdisk's deeper search to locate an overwritten partition, but then accidentally backed too far out of a menu and now i'm no longer in the deeper search. can i use the logs to finish the task, or do i need to start a several-hour deeper search again?
[01:19] <Edisto> where do you access a crash log for operating system freezing?
[01:31] <helmsdeep> matjam, worked it out. mega thanks!
[01:31] <helmsdeep> ie. chmod -R a+rwx,o-rwx /data/
[01:31] <helmsdeep> setfacl -d -m g::rwx /data/
[01:31] <helmsdeep> did the trick perfectly
[01:59] <gillaGal> Trying to install 18.04 from DVD, when I selected Install Ubuntu from the menu, the DVD spins, stops with a black screen and then proceeds to boot into a Live session. Any idea why I can't just install?
[01:59] <kj4> hello, how can I change my 'preferred' desktop resolution in 18.04? It keeps defaulting to 4k, I need 2560x1440
[02:09] <mIk3_08> Ghost help me
[02:10] <guiver_d> gillaGal: the only thing i can think of is a bad download (bit or two wrong), did you md5sum/checksum validate it?
[02:10] <tsarompy> yo #ubuntu
[02:10] <tsarompy> does anyone know if anyone mails out free linux CDs anymore?
[02:12] <gillaGal> guiver_d, I've downloaded the image 3 times now.  From within the live session I can install, but not from simply booting the dvd,
[02:12] <gillaGal> secure boot is off.
[02:12] <gillaGal> booting UEFI too
[02:13] <oerheks> tsarompy, maybe your loco community, but shipit a long time no more .. https://blog.ubuntu.com/2011/04/05/shipit-comes-to-an-end
[02:14] <oerheks> example UK http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/
[02:19] <jmom> hey all is android studio support for 18.04?
[02:21] <guiver_d> gillaGal: i usually boot live myself; then install from there (using something-else) so I'm not familiar with... rather than re-download many times, just compare md5sum/sha.. with what it should be to validate iso
[02:23] <MichaelH> Hi, I just upgraded to Kubuntu 18 & wondering what's the alternative to ifconfig to check network status ?
[02:24] <Bashing-om> MichaelH: Maybe as ' systemctl status NetworkManager
[02:25] <MichaelH> Thanks, that kinda worked : it showed me some information but not what I want. I need to check the IP address & DNS nameservers used
[02:26] <Bashing-om> MichaelH: ' ip route list ' .
[02:27] <guiverc> gillaGal: ignore if you're familiar with this, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM  (it includes info on non-Ubuntu too)
[02:32] <MichaelH> ip rout list  returns https://gist.github.com/MichaelHabib/c8d083c4b90d3f5a4514d629511a323b
[02:33] <MichaelH> I used the network manager to update the DNS nameservers then disabled & reenabled the the connection. So I need to check if the new setting have been applied.
[02:37] <Bashing-om> MichaelH: nameservers are in ' cat /etc/resolv.conf ' .
[02:41] <luxio> How do I disable thumbnail caching? I don't want any files being created in ~/.cache/thumbnails/*
[02:54] <drb___> does this work?
[02:54] <Bashing-om> drb___: Depends on how big the hammer is :P
[03:17] <amaiamme> what the hell was cananocal thinking realeasing 18.04 with the bug that cause ubuntu to boost to a blank purple screen if u typed ur password wrong the first time?
[03:25] <chalcedony> good evening :)
[03:25] <amaiamme> hello qt pi
[03:25] <chalcedony> amaiamme, hi
[03:27] <chalcedony> my hubby has a new hard drive with ubuntu 18.04.  it's put his data in odd seeming places
[03:27] <chalcedony>  Computer = Empty   255 MG Drive - grub and some stuff  2.0 TB Volume everything
[03:27] <chalcedony> so it's not using the Computer My Pictures etc files
[03:34] <MichaelH> chalcedony: sorry but I didn't understand the question
[03:35] <chalcedony> MichaelH, ty let me rephrase it
[03:36] <GillaGal> Can somebody explain the benefit of /boot/efi ?
[03:37] <fiber> yello
[03:37] <GillaGal> Installing Ubuntu in UEFI mode seems like wasted space
[03:37] <chalcedony> MichaelH,
[03:37] <chalcedony>   my hubby has a new hard drive that he's put ubuntu 18.04 on.  his data seems to be in different places than he expected. Computer = Empty   255 MG Drive - grub and some stuff  2.0 TB Volume everything .. and it's not in the traditional Ubuntu places.
[03:39] <MichaelH> I use Kubuntu , so I wont be able to help with DE (desktop environment) probelms as they are different to KDE
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | GillaGal
[03:40] <chalcedony> MichaelH, i see
[03:40] <MichaelH> and when you day Different, it's different from what? what were you expecting & what did you get instead (clerify for who ever can help)
[03:40] <chalcedony> thank you for trying, MichaelH
[03:40] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, I've read that
[03:40] <MichaelH> when you *say
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: whats your plan with ubuntu? singleboor or dualboot?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> *boot
[03:40] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, single
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: then you need to disable secureboot & fastboot, after install ubuntu single
[03:41] <chalcedony> MichaelH, he had 16.04 he was expecting the data to be in the same places (i think)
[03:41] <MichaelH> lol GillaGal I feel soo good when others have typos too, so I dont feel doing that alone :)
[03:41] <blaster> how do i set permissions so postfix can read a map file
[03:41] <GillaGal> Seems I should have installed using legacy and kept the 500MB
[03:41] <blaster> postfix/virtual[5384]: warning: pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql/mailbox.cf is unavailable. open /etc/postfix/pgsql/mailbox.cf: Permission denied
[03:42] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, ubuntu single?
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: yes ubuntu single boot
[03:43] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, Isn't it simply a matter of selecting UEFI vs Legacy install.
[03:43] <GillaGal> UEFI will create the /boot/efi.... legacy won't.
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: yes, it depends all what you wanna do, for example some machines with dualboot need some tweaking around with efi
[03:45] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, right.  But as this is just Ubuntu using the entire drive. legacy seems the way to go.
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: yes, thats what i said, disable secureboot & fastboot :p
[03:46] <GillaGal> lotuspsychje, can fastboot be enabled after installation?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> GillaGal: i would not reccomend changing values after an install, better choose wise before the setup
[03:48] <luxio> How do I disable thumbnail caching? I don't want any files being created in ~/.cache/thumbnails/*
[03:52] <amosbird> hi, how can I fix all these errors https://la.wentropy.com/fqHU ?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> amosbird: did you add external ppa's of any kind?
[03:58] <amosbird> It's a azure deployed ubuntu
[03:58] <amosbird> I don't change anything
[03:58] <amosbird> didn't*
[03:59] <realist_>  Hello, I’m part of a company that built a distro for data center networking, I’d like suggestions on places i might be able to let people know about our distro, example : websites that help you choose a distro, Linux news websites, popular forums…etc.
[04:01] <Bashing-om> amosbird: For some reason you are attempting to pull files that do not exist. For instance: http://azure.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/walinuxagent/ . version 2.2.14-0ubuntu1~16.10.1_amd64.deb is bit there .
[04:02] <Bashing-om> bit/not*
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !ot | realist_
[04:02] <amosbird> yeah
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> realist_: or create a new channel for your Os?
[04:05] <realist_> thanks
[04:12] <luxio> How do I disable thumbnail caching? I don't want any files being created in ~/.cache/thumbnails/*
[04:18] <Two_Dogs> luxio: does file-manager config allow disable of icon cache?
[04:18] <luxio> tried looking but didn't find anything
[04:18] <luxio> using default file manager on 18.04
[04:21] <Two_Dogs> luxio: desktop configuration perhaps
[04:22] <luxio> Two_Dogs: there's a "show icons" toggle under Desktop in GNOME Tweaks, but that does nothing for the file manager.
[04:25] <Two_Dogs> luxio: does your desktop use dconf/gsettings? i am not familiar with the gnome desktop innards, i use plasma
[04:26] <Two_Dogs> luxio: i assume you are on gnome-shell
[04:26] <luxio> whatever is default on 18.04
[04:26] <Two_Dogs> i have no idea what default is
[04:27] <Two_Dogs> luxio: perhaps a search on the forum articles
[04:28] <Two_Dogs> or google
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !google | Two_Dogs
[04:35] <krytarik> That's a little unwarranted here..
[04:39] <Two_Dogs> lotuspsychje: the nick and i delved into various possibilities, i felt the need to provide nick with a last resort
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Two_Dogs: just wanna help out mate, dont take this personal :p perhaps asking for details or re-ask his question might be more suitable to get his issue solved?
[04:41] <Two_Dogs> lotuspsychje: aint, and his question seemed specific enough, nicks on 18.04 default and wants to disable thumbnail cache
[04:42] <s10gopal> how to add tag in launchpad bug report ?
[05:10] <plasmoduck> What's a good hardware sensors program to install? Like what program does conky "usually" rely on to get it's sensor information?
[05:13] <kernal_> does it just use system tools?
[05:20] <Two_Dogs> plasmoduck: check out the conky wiki page on the web
[05:20] <Triffid_Hunter> plasmoduck: most tools get data straight from /sys afaik, although perhaps you could have a play with lm_sensors
[06:33] <OlofL> How do I type emojis in ubuntu 18?
[06:37] <Two_Dogs> OlofL: do you mean one of these :)
[06:38] <Two_Dogs> OlofL: explain
[06:42] <OlofL> Two_Dogs: no the ones with pictures  🌭 https://www.emojicopy.com/
[06:45] <Two_Dogs> OlofL: if you were not on linux what steps would you take?
[06:45] <VLC_Man> Hello, I am having a problem. I can't figure out what address to put into VLC's Audio Device Name field to record my pulseaudio sink monitor (The sink is named Virtual_Device). Does anyone have experience with this?
[06:46] <OlofL> Two_Dogs: i dont know. i only use linux
[06:46] <Two_Dogs> OlofL: ahh
[06:46] <OlofL> Two_Dogs: in android there is a button to type emojis
[06:46] <Two_Dogs> me too
[06:47] <Two_Dogs> OlofL: ok, so on android you do emojis on an app, yes?
[06:49] <Two_Dogs> the emoji app
[06:49] <OlofL> no there is no app for it on andoird. its just included in the google keyboard
[06:50] <OlofL> but in many apps like slack for example, you open the emoji menu by typing :
[06:50] <OlofL> slack on linux that is
[06:50] <Two_Dogs> only emoji app i ever plinked on OlofL was pidgin(the im client)
[06:51] <Two_Dogs> but i did not do much if any emoji on pidgin
[06:56] <ducasse> OlofL: you can input them in terminals by pressing ctrl+shift+u and typing the unicode code point
[06:59] <Two_Dogs> ducasse: would that work here? irc client i mean
[07:02] <ducasse> Two_Dogs: if it's a terminal client it should. if it's a gui client it depends.
[07:03] <noj518> hi all-could someone please help me i want to know if i can make a usb (installation usb) from inside ubuntu with multiple iso burned to the usb (for installation and livebooting)
[07:03] <IonTau> hey everyone...
[07:03] <IonTau> anyone done a gnome ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04?
[07:03] <IonTau> my desktop is a real mess.  :(
[07:03] <noj518> eg ubuntu 16.04, 17.10 and 18.04 all on one usb
[07:05] <noj518> eg like yummi on windows but an Ubuntu alternative
[07:11] <Two_Dogs> IonTau: can you still install?
[07:12] <VLC_Man> Anyone here have some experience with pulseaudio sinks? I can't find the alsa:/// or pulse:// directory to my sink :/
[07:18] <|\n> hello, i'd like to check myself not being able to force nvidia optimus to work on 18.04, could someone please tell if there should be libGL.so* provided by nvidia 390 installed via ubuntu-drivers (was "distro non-free recommended") or any other 390 related package?
[07:18] <|\n> maybe i've broken something myself =)
[07:19] <amosbird> hi
[07:19] <amosbird> how can I reset ubuntu 16.10's apt repo ?
[07:19] <amosbird> I got tons of this error https://la.wentropy.com/Z7v8
[07:19] <ducasse> amosbird: 16.10 is long since dead
[07:19] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | amosbird
[07:20] <amosbird> um, how can I upgrade then ?
[07:20] <|\n> amosbird, re-upload logs elsewhere please
[07:20] <jink> |\n: Maybe the error is "unauthenticated" :D
[07:20] <ducasse> amosbird: see the link from ubottu
[07:21] <|\n> jink, might be
[07:21] <jink> I reckon you wouldn't need a pastebin for that, though. :P
[07:24] <amosbird> jee, azure's ubuntu is really broken
[07:24] <amosbird>  linux-virtual : Depends: linux-image-virtual (= <IP_ADDRESS>.57) but <IP_ADDRESS>.52 is to be installed
[07:24] <amosbird>                  Depends: linux-headers-virtual (= <IP_ADDRESS>.57) but <IP_ADDRESS>.52 is to be installed
[07:24] <plasmoduck> It's so good having a 24" monitor turned size-ways vertically. I can view whole web sites on it without even scrolling down pretty much & coding is a pleasure.
[07:25] <amosbird> hmm, why is 16.10 eol ?
[07:25] <amosbird> oh, so the 10 version is short-life
[07:26] <|\n> could someone please assist to figure out why is that nvidia 390 doesn't ship libgl.so (i thought it should)
[07:27] <ducasse> amosbird: it was only supported for 9 months, you should have upgraded a year ago
[07:28] <amosbird> well, I don't even find a way to update it in azure...
[07:29] <amosbird> 16.10 isn't in the list of  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[07:31] <Flannel> amosbird: That just means there aren't version-specific upgrades for you.  The standard procedure listed under "Upgrading" will work
[07:32] <amosbird> oh
[07:33] <Flannel> amosbird: and for the record, it's not just x.10 releases, but also the non-LTS x.04 releases (LTS is every fourth release, even-years, so 16.04, 18.04, 20.04, etc are LTS, everything else is 9 months)
[07:34] <amosbird> so 16.04 and 16.04-LTS are too different release ?
[07:35] <Flannel> amosbird: no, 16.04 *is* an LTS release
[07:36] <amosbird> oh
[07:36] <amosbird> 17.04 isn't
[07:36] <Flannel> amosbird: Right.
[07:36] <amosbird> Err:18 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates/main amd64 vlan amd64 1.9-3.2ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:36] <amosbird>   403  Forbidden
[07:36] <amosbird> hmm, I got a lot of 403 when upgrading
[07:40] <VLC_Man> I can't find an alsa:/// address to plug into videolan for my pulseaudio sink monitor (Virtual.monitor)
[07:50] <moonman> hello
[07:50] <moonman> Hey y'all, its moonman here, and we gonna kill some nigggers tonight!
[07:51] <mancman3> !op ^^
[07:51] <moonman> !ops
[07:52] <potatoe> is there a way to get a recompiled kernel module for ufs?
[07:52] <moonman> !ops some fucktwit doesn't know how to use !ops
[07:52] <potatoe> 16.06
[07:52] <potatoe> 16.04
[07:52] <mancman3> wow a proper rock hard man !!!
[07:52] <mancman3> oh he's gone
[07:52] <potatoe> i'm trying to rescue another installation, so I'm netbooting off 16.04 base image, so I can't compile it myself and reboot because I don't have access
[07:52] <potatoe> so if i can get a preocmpiled ufs module i can load it in
[07:58] <Norux> Hello
[07:59] <Norux> I have a question: In /etc/fstab, I mount a RAID5-device with `defaults` setting. However, I can't cd into the mounted device. How can I fix this?
[08:01] <Norux> I tried `sudo chmod 777`, but that doesn't help
[08:04] <kiokoman> Norux: show us the line inside fstab
[08:05] <Norux>  /dev/md0 /media/md0 ext4 defaults 0 2
[08:06] <ducasse> Norux: what does 'ls -ld /media/md0' return?
[08:07] <Norux> ducasse: drwrx-xr-x 4 root 4096 ..... /media/md0
[08:07] <Norux> Ohh is it because of owner = root?
[08:09] <Norux> typo: drwxr-xr-x
[08:11] <kiokoman> i don't think, try->  getfacl /media/md0
[08:12] <noj518> how can i fix driver descriptor size mis-match. I am ruinign
[08:13] <noj518> my usbs when i make bootable install usb with linux on them from startup disk creator
[08:13] <Norux> kiokoman: http://termbin.com/d3p9
[08:13] <noj518> keep getting an error re 512 vs 2086 re drive size
[08:14] <noj518> can dd fix this if so how
[08:14] <noj518> tryed fixing the usb with gparted no joy there
[08:18] <Norux> nobody an idea? :|
[08:21] <kiokoman> Norux: eh idk, try changing owner of /media/md0 to root:users and do a sudo chmod g+rw /media/md0
[08:24] <Norux> kiokoman: still doesn't work... :(
[08:25] <potatoe> when I try to compile the kernel for ubuntu-xenial I get this error: /bin/bash: ./scripts/ubuntu-retpoline-extract-one
[08:25] <potatoe> its the kernel cloned from ubuntu git not linus
[08:25] <potatoe> whats up with this?
[08:28] <Norux> join #bash
[08:28] <potatoe> how is that a bash problem?
[08:28] <Norux> potatoe: I just messed up the command haha
[08:28] <potatoe> ah
[08:31] <Norux> kiokoman: now it works, I added chmod 777. The guys from #bash said you apparently need +x to cd into a directory!
[08:31] <kiokoman> good
[08:34] <potatoe> Norux not a good idea to 777 a dev
[08:37] <Norux> potatoe: even when it is mounted?
[08:40] <zamba> how the hell are one supposed to change ip in ubuntu?
[08:40] <zamba> i have changed the ip in /etc/network/interface
[08:40] <zamba> done ifdown ens160 and then ifup ens160
[08:40] <zamba> also done /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:41] <zamba> but no.. no new ip
[08:41] <zamba> i can of course set this manually, but come on
[08:44] <potatoe> Norux well 777 is literally every permission so that sets of alarm bells
[08:44] <potatoe> but i suppose if its your local machine eh w/e
[08:48] <multifractal> dumb question but: if i have a file `~/mydir/file1.txt` and I create a link to it with `ln -s ~/mydir/file1.txt ~/mydir/link1.txt`... if I were to zip and send the dir to somebody else would the link still point to the correct file on their computer?
[08:50] <ducasse> multifractal: that depends on the tool you create the archive with, some of them handle symlinks correctly, others don't
[08:51] <multifractal> ducasse: right-click + "compress" to .tgz or .zip in nautilus?
[08:52] <dywen> #constant
[08:53] <ducasse> multifractal: that would most likely use tar or zip as the backend tool to do the actual work
[08:53] <Triffid_Hunter> multifractal: well tar has options for how to handle links.. which ones does nautilus invoke?
[08:55] <Gnjurac> hi how are thise andorid-sdk packed in ubuntu ?
[08:55] <Gnjurac> those from repo?
[08:56] <Gnjurac> i dont gett sdkmenager and stuff
[08:56] <arunkumar413> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf says no such file
[08:58] <Norux> now I can't login anymore! Why?!
[08:58] <Norux> Oh nvm. It works now.
[09:03] <helpmeplease911> hi all-how can i fix my usb it says it has a size driver descriptor mistatch
[09:09] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:09] <Norux> Hi BluesKaj
[09:09] <BluesKaj> Hi Norux
[09:13]  * BluesKaj heads to the kitchen for more coffee
[09:14] <Triffid_Hunter> helpmeplease911: reformat it. many usb sticks seem to come with a bogus partition table for some reason
[09:15] <BluesKaj> just create a new table
[09:16] <Triffid_Hunter> I always redo mine so I can first make sure they haven't done that, and also to align partition boundaries to the erase block
[09:18] <helpmeplease911> <Triffid Hunter> I have tryed  to delete and format and create a new partition gparted always shows an error leading to no fix
[09:19] <helpmeplease911> what else can i do how do you allign the partition boundaries
[09:19] <Triffid_Hunter> helpmeplease911: tried a different program? ever considered that the stick is fake and linux is detecting that it's lying about its size somehow?
[09:20] <heistheDude> How to list all installed versions of numpy?
[09:20] <helpmeplease911> multiple usb sticks all same errors occouring after an bootable linux iso usb made
[09:20] <helpmeplease911> sizes are correct and confirmed
[09:21] <helpmeplease911> what else can i use to format from ubuntu
[09:21] <helpmeplease911> or terminal
[09:21] <helpmeplease911> and to fix the block size and align
[09:22] <Triffid_Hunter> helpmeplease911: fdisk, cfdisk, parted
[09:30] <Guest3172> Hi anybody can help me with winbind configuration?
[09:33] <Gnjurac> anyone have android-sdk working on  ubuntu 18.04
[09:39] <VLCMan> Hello, I am having a problem. I can't figure out what address to put into VLC's Audio Device Name field to record my pulseaudio sink monitor (The sink is named Virtual_Device). Does anyone have experience with this?
[09:44] <robot__> i
[09:44] <robot__> Who's Mr.robot
[09:45] <robot__> fuck
[09:45] <SimonNL> come on grow up
[09:45] <robot__> Really?
[09:46] <robot__> serious?
[09:46] <robot__> Who am i?
[09:47] <robot__> Is there anybody here now?
[09:47] <sorin-mihai> robot__, use /who
[09:47] <sorin-mihai> this is IRC, not a backyard
[09:47] <robot__> What is IRC?
[09:48] <ducasse> robot__: this channel is only for support, not chat. for chat please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <robot__> Alright, copy that, sir.
[09:48] <robot__> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:52] <noj518> multiple linux installation usb-suggested program/app (ubuntu or terminal)
[09:52] <noj518> (creation-in case its not obvious)
[10:00] <Rumbles> hmmm, is it just me or is launchpad down?
[10:02] <ducasse> Rumbles: https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/launchpad.net
[10:03] <Rumbles> hmmmm just me then :/
[10:07] <SmirGel> it feels like impossible task to set spin down time on HDD that just refuses to listen anything..tried hdparm, hd-idle it just continues to ignore them all
[10:14] <fishcooker> if i download 14.04.5 ... is it possible to make it usb flashdisk... what's app should i use?
[10:27] <Younder> whats the canned for ubuntu offtopic?
[10:27] <Younder> channel
[10:29] <Xat`> hello guys
[10:30] <brainwash> !ot
[10:31] <Xat`> I'm installing 18.04 with net.ifnames=0 . So my interface name is eth0, but netplan config set ens32 during  installation
[10:31] <Xat`> anyone could help me on that ?
[10:35] <fishcooker> i download 14.04.5 then want to install usb boot flashdisk
[10:37] <brainwash> fishcooker: are you currently using Windows?
[10:39] <XB23> how do i make this change permanant?
[10:39] <XB23> ip link set link dev lxcbr0 promisc on
[10:39] <ubuntu> hello
[10:40] <Guest11185> jdghdjjgdhggjsjdfhdsfghxhgjcvfgfsdhkghdfjgfdhsjghfd
[10:40] <Guest11185> jgfdgjfsdf
[10:40] <Guest11185> hfdmhnf
[10:40] <Guest11185>
[10:40] <Guest11185>
[10:40] <Guest11185>
[10:40] <Guest11185>
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[10:42] <Ubu-1604> be back laterz ;)
[10:43] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I posted this a few hours ago on askubuntu. I have a strong suspicion that something is up with the nvidia drivers on my system. But I don't know what my next diagnostic steps should be:   https://askubuntu.com/questions/1040002/after-update-to-18-04-applications-constantly-freeze
[10:53] <Younder> bobdobbs, have you asked NVIDIA?
[10:54] <bobdobbs> Younder: I didn't think about checking nvidia support channels specifically. So no.
[10:54] <Younder> after all canoical has no control over the code they write
[10:54] <bobdobbs> true
[10:55] <bobdobbs> However, I figured that people within the ubuntu community might have encountered the issue ahead of me.
[10:55] <bobdobbs> But yeah, I'll see what support there is for ubuntu within the nvidia community
[10:57] <bobdobbs> oh wait. before I do that I should probably ask: how do I know if the drivers for my nvidia card are actually distributed by nvidia, and not by ubuntu dev?
[10:57] <Younder> I use NVIDIA, but have chosen to wait a little with the upgrade to 18.04 upgrade 1 appears, give the driver supporters a bit of a chance to catch up. (in july)
[10:58] <Cheez> I'm using nvidia on 18.04 without any real issues, at least, portal 2 works - that's the only game ive tried.
[10:58] <bobdobbs> sounds like a wise choice Younder
[11:00] <hellyeah> hey
[11:00] <hellyeah> i have dotnet application and i want to deamonize it
[11:01] <hellyeah> how can i do that?
[11:04] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu brainwash... i started to remember used to use rufus
[11:05] <XB23> hey all, how can i enable promiscous mode on my lxcbr0 device permanantly?
[11:05] <XB23> so after a reboot it dosent get unset
[11:05] <guest___> i can see ubuntu in boot manager even after removing it
[11:07] <Younder> bobdobbs, anyhow the new drivers mostly involve support for the Volta technology. You might try an loder driver.
[11:07] <Younder> ^older
[11:09] <RegularNotGuest> hey, my desktop files aren't working! when I click them, they ask me if I want to run it in terminal
[11:10] <bobdobbs> Younder: how would I go about switching to a older driver?
[11:11] <guest___> ufei vs leagacy which is best for a new laptop ?
[11:13] <longword> Personally, I'd stick with legacy unless your main disk is >2TB
[11:15] <BluesKaj> guest uefi is usually best if you're dual booting with Windows , otherwise legacy should work
[11:17] <Younder> bobdobbs, In the old days I would just dowload the old driver from the cite and install it. Today you usually get their apt repository and and update from there. The downside is, of course, that it only works until the next update arrives. I would gambe that they have fixed it by then, and to be sure follow up with an error report to nvidia
[11:18] <bobdobbs> Younder: if it's a common issue (and I wouldn't suspect my encounter with it to be particularly novel) then yeah, I'd expect an update soon
[11:19] <bobdobbs> But I'm unfamilair with the landscape and the tooling. So I'm still trying to figure out which driver I actually have and who the vendor is. I'm also looking around the nvidia forum
[11:24] <BluesKaj> bobdobbs, fot driver in use run this: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes
[11:25] <BluesKaj> for
[11:27] <EriC^^> !ping
[11:28] <brainwash> fishcooker: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hey EriC^^
[11:28] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj
[11:30] <rvang> Hey guys, I just received a regular Dell XPS from our IT team, on which they installed Ubuntu themselves (so not the developer edition). Firstly: it boots VERY slow (slower then my 6yr old laptop) and they installed 17.10 which they upgraded. I'd prefer to reinstall myself.. anyone knows if there are any particular problem for that with this device? Our IT team spoke of some harddrive settings which were
[11:30] <rvang> needed to make it work ..
[11:30] <BluesKaj> bobdobbs, or this glxinfo | grep OpenGL , look for version string
[11:30] <brainwash> XB23: create a systemd service, or just use rc.local
[11:33] <bobdobbs> BluesKaj: thanks
[11:43] <spinningCat> yo
[11:43] <spinningCat> anyone around?
[11:44] <hanasaki> screen lock enabled however does not start.   thoughts on how to debug / cause / fix?
[11:48] <ioria> hanasaki, what you mean does not start ?
[11:48] <spinningCat> x""systemd or supersord to deamonize app
[11:48] <spinningCat> ?
[12:00] <lars_> anyone know how to become a member of #hardware (or can tell me if a msata ssd can safely be used in a mini msata port?)
[12:04] <totallynotabot> o/
[12:20] <gurahamu> Hello
[12:21] <ceiba_> yo
[12:22] <ceiba_> supervisord
[12:22] <lotric> эбэть
[12:25] <amosbird> Hi, where can i find the source code of libproxy1-plugin-webkit
[12:27] <Ool> amosbird: here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libproxy1-plugin-webkit
[12:27] <amosbird> hmm, I only see binaries there
[12:29] <ioria> amosbird, enable deb-src in sources.list  and apt source libproxy1-plugin-webkit
[12:29] <ioria> amosbird, i suggest you do it in a new directory
[12:47] <amosbird> thanks
[12:47] <amosbird> hmm.....
[12:47] <amosbird> it's just libproxy..
[12:47] <amosbird> i thought the code are different
[12:49] <hellyeah> hey
[12:49] <hellyeah> this is convenient this is my service file http://dpaste.com/2VWGEPW
[12:56] <Guest23998> please help i keep getting fatal error when it gets to installation of grub no os installed now as deleted trying to install various flavours of ubuntu 18.10
[12:57] <ducasse> Guest23998: 18.10? ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:59] <Guest23998> noone in that channel
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Guest23998, you didn't ask your question there
[13:00] <Guest23998> oops i am on 18.04
[13:01] <Guest23998> so please my question stands and im in the right channel my bad re the number
[13:01] <tsarompy> do you have a uefi partition
[13:02] <Guest23998> no
[13:02] <Guest23998> legecy bios
[13:03] <tsarompy> did you select to use the entire disk in the installer
[13:03] <Guest23998> yes and to erase everything on the disk sda
[13:03] <tsarompy> okay according to the release notes you need to select custom partitioning
[13:04] <tsarompy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1724417
[13:04] <tsarompy> dunno if that helps?
[13:04] <guiverc> Guest23998, if you have no OS installed; your grub issue will be fixed when you next install an OS
[13:05] <Guest23998> if that turns out to be it imma be tripping ballz
[13:05] <Guest23998> it cant install the grub that is the point at which the installtion fails when it gets to grub installation
[13:05] <Guest23998> ill try your suggestion
[13:06] <guiverc> stage 1 of grub is your MBR - it needs to point to stages 1.5 & up which are normally in /boot - without an OS you can't have a /boot
[13:06] <Guest23998> be back soon with update lols but name will be nojjjjjjjjj
[13:15] <Kolany> what is this page? https://tinyurl.com/ya79dnx5
[13:17] <quackgyver> I wanted to try to use Ubuntu, so I bought a laptop and tried to install Ubuntu on it
[13:17] <quackgyver> but after installing the device says that there's no bootable device
[13:18] <quackgyver> What do I do?
[13:18] <microwav_> what did you use to install ubuntu? usb?
[13:18] <quackgyver> Yes
[13:19] <microwav_> dual boot?
[13:19] <microwav_> or 1 OS?
[13:19] <quackgyver> No, just a normal installation.
[13:19] <quackgyver> I followed the Ubuntu instructions to the point.
[13:19] <quackgyver> Flashed a USB stick, installed Ubuntu from it, erased the disk and proceeded like normal
[13:19] <quackgyver> but upon reboot I just get "No Bootable Device"
[13:20] <microwav_> strange , did you check if the bios settings are correct?
[13:20] <quackgyver> What do you mean specifically
[13:21] <microwav_> i remember someone else having the same problem and he had to do something in the secure boot settings
[13:21] <microwav_> hold on ill find it for you
[13:21] <quackgyver> Okay, I'll wait. Thank you.
[13:22] <microwav_> i'm not sure if i can link stuff in here
[13:22] <quackgyver> Why wouldn't you be able to?
[13:22] <microwav_> https://itsfoss.com/no-bootable-device-found-ubuntu/
[13:23] <microwav_> check if that helps information-wise
[13:24] <quackgyver> Thanks, but it doesn't. I have no option to "Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing"
[13:24] <quackgyver> So that won't work.
[13:25] <edvinbasil> quackgyver: Do you have bios or UEFI?
[13:25] <Ool> if you don't make dualboot, you can use legacy mode and not UEFI
[13:26] <quackgyver> edvinbasil: It says BIOS.
[13:26] <quackgyver> Ool: What's legacy mode and how do I activate it?
[13:27] <Ool> legacy mode is bios mode … so if you use it yet⋅
[13:27] <hellyeah> hey i try to create service file is there anything wrong here? http://dpaste.com/2VWGEPW
[13:27] <edvinbasil> while installing, how did you make the partitions? Did you leave it at default or did you partition it yourself?
[13:27] <Ool> edvinbasil: depend, the mayor part I leave default option and is just work fine :)
[13:28] <quackgyver> Ool: What do you mean by "so if you use it yet"
[13:28] <quackgyver> edvinbasil: I just followed the simplest way during the wizard.
[13:28] <quackgyver> I haven't done anything but the basicmost choices.
[13:28] <quackgyver> I didn't manage any partitions myself.
[13:29] <edvinbasil> try pressing Esc or F9 or Delete (Button specific to your laptop) during bootup to enter boot device options and check if there is an entry for ubuntu
[13:30] <quackgyver> edvinbasil: The boot list is empty.
[13:31] <edvinbasil> hmm..this isnt normal...usually if its a single OS, it would work without any problems
[13:32] <quackgyver> Well it doesn't in this case, and it seems that Ubuntu deleted the restore partition too
[13:32] <quackgyver> so all I have now is a brick
[13:32] <Xat`> I'm installing 18.04 with net.ifnames=0. So my interface name is 'eth0', but netplan yaml file uses 'ens132' during installation instead of eth0
[13:32] <edvinbasil> try reinstalling
[13:32] <quackgyver> I have, like five times.
[13:32] <quackgyver> With safe bios on, safe bios off, encryption on, encryption off
[13:32] <quackgyver> nothing helps
[13:32] <quackgyver> secure bios*
[13:33] <edvinbasil> what did yoou use to write to the usb?
[13:33] <edvinbasil> if it has secure boot, it means it must be UEFI
[13:33] <quackgyver> The latest, official Ubuntu ISO and Etcher
[13:33] <quackgyver> Well it says BIOS in the menu so I assumed that it was BIOS.
[13:35] <edvinbasil> i personally havent used etcher but is there an option for UEFI or something on the lines of GPT
[13:35] <adrian_1908> hellyeah: try asking in #systemd if you haven't already
[13:36] <quackgyver> edvinbasil: I have nothing pertaining to "UEFI", but I have three options for GPT: "GPT Partition Recovery", "Clear GPT Partition" and "GPT Partition Record"
[13:36] <quackgyver> All options say "None" except for the last, which says "No Record"
[13:36] <hellyeah> than you i will
[13:37] <quackgyver> Actually I can't use the last two options unless I set "GPT Partition Recovery" to "Save" or "Restore"
[13:37] <quackgyver> whatever that means
[13:40] <nojjjjjjjjjjjj> thank you so very much-was at my wits end never had an issue like that and thought i might of wreck my hdd somehow
[13:41] <nojjjjjjjjjjjj> finally got ubuntu 18.04 installed
[13:42] <nojjjjjjjjjjjj> is the problem with install applicable with all flavours (desktop environments) of 18.04
[13:46] <ELFrederich> hi guys, I saw an article recently but can't find it any more.    For example it would search for any add-ons for a particular package.  Like gimp for example.  There was also a tool that would show how much disk space was used by each package.  dpigs or something like that
[13:47] <rypervenche> ELFrederich: dpkg
[13:47] <rypervenche> ELFrederich: Short for "debian package"
[13:48] <JoseA> hello
[13:50] <JoseA> Hello, I need support on my ubuntu
[13:50] <ELFrederich> rypervenche, found it... debian-goodies
[13:50] <ELFrederich> and it was check-enhancements
[13:51] <tomreyn> !details | JoseA
[13:52] <quackgyver> Anyone?
[13:52] <JoseA> !pastebin
[13:53] <jaydemir> I have a really proprietary printer at my job (Konika minolta C227). The website offers drivers in the form of CUPS folders containing ppd files. Where do I have to put those?
[13:54] <jaydemir> fwiw I tried installing the drivers through ubuntu which didn't have the series. I tried the closest (C250), but I couldn't print two sided
[13:55] <tomreyn> ppds of proprietary hardware may just try to talk to proprietary software which then talks to lpd or similar.
[13:57] <JoseA> tomreyn https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jVTgnYKbsz/
[13:57] <tomreyn> jaydemir: actually those PS PPDs for Konika minolta C227 dont look so bad. you can install the PPDs either at http://localhost:631 while configuring the printer or using printer the GUI in system preferences.
[13:58]  * tomreyn was just looking at PPD driver (90001.0006 MU) for KONICA MINOLTA bizhub Colour Series
[13:59] <JoseA> tomreyn I think I have a problem with the repositories file
[13:59] <jaydemir> tomreyn: the system settings will let me look those files up in my download folder? The printers up and running in the office already, I'd just be using a new Linux machine
[13:59] <tomreyn> JoseA: i think you have a problem with your apt sources
[14:00] <tomreyn> JoseA: you have apt sources for both trusty (14.04, supported for another year) and utopic, which has been end of life and unsupported, accumulating security issues, for a long time.
[14:00] <tomreyn> !utopic
[14:01] <JoseA> tomreyn yes but I can not find the sources of my ubuntu version which is 14.10
[14:01] <tomreyn> JoseA: read the message above what you just said.
[14:02] <tomreyn> you've been 3 years without security patches.
[14:03] <tomreyn> the sources are no longer available (or not at the previous location), and should no longer be used.
[14:04] <tomreyn> what you should do now is backup your data and do a fresh installation, then carefully restore your data, reviewing it to ensure you're not reinstalling malware which may have landed on your system during the past 3 years.
[14:05] <JoseA> tomreyn then what should I do?
[14:05] <compdoc> move to florida
[14:06] <tomreyn> JoseA: i just explained, did you not see that?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> JoseA, by a fresh installation I think he means 18.04
[14:07] <tomreyn> oh right, thanks for pointing this out, BluesKaj
[14:12] <B88> hi
[14:12] <Escatrag> Hi
[14:12] <B88> type hi if you see this message
[14:13] <Escatrag> Hi if you see this message
[14:13] <B88> hi
[14:13] <quackgyver> Forget it
[14:13] <quackgyver> I'm going back to Windows.
[14:13] <tsarompy> lolol
[14:13] <tsarompy> why you givin up dawg
[14:13] <Escatrag>  ?? R u serious ?  But chat is off topic for this channel
[14:18] <quackgyver> I just answered his question. I'm not interested in talking about it.
[14:19] <B88> hi
[14:19] <B88> anyone wanna chat
[14:20] <tomreyn> !ot | B88
[14:25] <Toadisattva> using Ubuntu 18.04 for some reason the file menu and sidebar just completely disappeared from my file manager. alt+m/e/v andsuch don't do anything, I've tried reinstalling ubuntu desktop and nautilus, can anyone ponit me the right direction to fix this?
[14:27] <ericrajuin> try F9 for sidebar
[14:28] <Toadisattva> aha! that got my sidebar back
[14:28] <Toadisattva> thanks!
[14:29] <BluesKaj> ericrajuin, interesting , works in kde/dolphin as well
[14:31] <ericrajuin> yeah I think they mostly use the same shortcuts.
[14:32] <BluesKaj> never really looked closely at the context menu, but there itit si in View>panels>places---F9
[14:32] <BluesKaj> it is
[14:32] <BluesKaj> sometimes i think I'm blind :-)
[14:38] <friendlyguy> hi there! i am wondering how i could change ubuntu lts to use the mac as dhcp "identifier"?
[14:38] <friendlyguy> ubuntu server lts
[14:38] <friendlyguy> ip a s
[14:38] <friendlyguy> wrong window, sry
[14:42] <wethree_> in the room people come and go
[14:42] <wethree_> talking about ..?
[14:43] <leftyfb> !ot | wethree_
[14:45] <leftyfb> friendlyguy: I came across this recently. I thought it was a dhclient.conf setting regarding DHCID, but I can't seem to find it again.
[14:55] <wethree_> wogons are taking over?
[14:58] <wethree_> you'll miss me ... that's for sure
[14:59] <wethree_> what's up wizards!
[15:01] <wethree_> leftyfb: we don't have an email account, so registeration is out of the question.
[15:02] <leftyfb> wethree_: The point is, useless banter is offtopic. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:03] <ash_worksi> is there any way I can reduce the spacing in the context menu (and actually between icons in the status bar) on 18.04? (like unity)
[15:03] <wethree_> all we seee here is people joining and people leaving
[15:04] <wethree_> leftyfb: all we seee here is people joining and people leaving
[15:04] <leftyfb> wethree_: great. Please take non-support questions/chatting to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <wethree_> leftyfb: But we haven't ask any questions!!
[15:06] <leftyfb> wethree_: Useless banter/chatting is offtopic. Please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:09] <wethree_> leftyfb: how do we go there?
[15:09] <MortezaE> Anybody knows where does gtg (Getting Things Gnome) stores notes?
[15:10] <leftyfb> wethree_: type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:20] <wethree_> leftyfb: Anybody knows why this bot is giving me a hard time?
[15:20] <leftyfb> wethree_: please stop
[15:21] <leftyfb> wethree_: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat
[15:25] <adrian_1908> MortezaE: have you looked under ~/.config and ~/.local ?
[15:26] <MortezaE> adrian_1908, maybe .local as i looked at .config ...
[15:26] <ca-on-adam> wethree_: I am not sure what is happening, I don't even know if lefty... is a bot.
[15:27] <MortezaE> adrian_1908, Yep, .local
[15:27] <adrian_1908> MortezaE: here I have a few in .local/share/data :)
[15:27] <adrian_1908> ok, good :)
[15:27] <MortezaE> thx
[15:28] <runto> ls
[15:28] <runto> hello
[15:30] <EriC^^> !ping
[15:32] <ca-on-adam> wethree_: I read back and understand now.  This channel is for support questions about Ubuntu - if you don't have a question, then leftyfb is telling you that #ubuntu-offtopic is the place to go.  Sound good?
[15:34] <Guest12964> Are you trying to be polite about it?
[15:34] <donofrio> anyone porting 18.04 to ppc power5 (big endin?)
[15:35] <kiokoman> lol
[15:36] <leftyfb> donofrio: no
[15:37] <MortezaE> Is there someone else having problem with brightness OSD logo? It disappears so late sometimes.
[15:38] <runto_> hello
[15:38] <runto_> there any peoples?
[15:38] <adrian_1908> yes, go ahead
[15:38] <MortezaE> * brightness Icon I mean
[15:38] <runto_> ok nice :d
[15:38] <leftyfb> donofrio: power5-7 are no longer supported by IBM, let alone Ubuntu
[15:38] <leftyfb> !ask | runto_
[15:39] <runto_> @leftyfb ok
[15:40] <fishcooker> i have 2 TB disk sda i wanto create raid 1 i have sdb ... how to ... how long it will take
[15:41] <Jerry> hello room
[15:42] <Jerry> im new to all this
[15:43] <donofrio> Jerry, just ask your question
[15:43] <Jerry> need some help w text to speeck for linux
[15:44] <donofrio> Jerry, like kurzell 3k or just wanting to turn on and use accessablity built into ubuntu?
[15:45] <raub> donofrio: you made me want to find my PPC box
[15:47] <donofrio> raub, ;) https://afinde-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/just_do_it.gif
[15:47] <Jerry> need somethhing synaptic
[15:47] <donofrio> Jerry, so built in - good
[15:48] <donofrio> Jerry, something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[15:48] <Jerry> anything in synaptic
[15:49] <Jerry> all try it and c
[15:50] <Jerry> i well try it
[16:07] <catalase> hi
[16:08] <Guest47542> hello
[16:08] <Jerry> its jerry thanks for your help
[16:09] <Orlando_Reynoso> in software and updates in the tab other software is good idea to chek canonical partners source code?
[16:10] <Orlando_Reynoso> in software and updates in the tab other software is good idea to chek canonical partners source code?
[16:10] <Jerry> its time for lunch
[16:11] <Orlando_Reynoso> some help?
[16:12] <Jerry> what kind of help you need
[16:12] <lapaga> Orlando_Reynoso, for what its worth I do not but I also do not have canonical partners checked
[16:14] <Orlando_Reynoso> I have never checked before I just wonder if that help in something, may better software or packages..
[16:15] <mancman3> Orlando_Reynoso: do u build stuff from  source >? if not just enable the canonical partners repo. but it doesn't hurt to tick the source code one either.
[16:17] <Orlando_Reynoso> ok
[16:31] <TheLaw> Annywone experianse with Solus?
[16:32] <TheLaw> Everytime i try to install my wireless driver my laptop starts to hang. If i try to install my Nvidea driver i do not get the sign in screen :-(
[16:34] <cr1mson_king> TheLaw, they have an IRC channel
[16:35] <cr1mson_king> TheLaw, #solus
[16:47] <avallark> hello all :)
[16:48] <avallark> i have the additional drivers for my nvidia installed, but ubuntu doesnt load them. When I tried modprobe it says required key is not available, pointing towards secure boot. Any way out of this?
[16:52] <arooni> so the only way to upgrade from 16.04 is to 1) wait till july/august for the point release? 2) upgrade to 17.10 then again to 18.04 ?  hoping that upgrading could solve the terrible inconsistency in suspend/resume on my thinkpad
[16:55] <longword> arooni, straight from 16.04 to 18.04 now does work well for most - sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:55] <arooni> longword: i thought there was no direct path from ubuntu 16.04 to 18.04
[16:56] <longword> And now you know better.
[16:57] <longword> They're delaying the general availability until 18.04.1 just to work out any kinks that arise
[16:57] <longword> Stability being a key goal of LTS releases
[16:57] <texla> ubuntu 16.04>unity..Upon booting text showing sda1 is scanning..below it is an error too fast to read..tried journalctl but cannot read any errors
[17:00] <longword> texla, try /var/log/boot.log
[17:00] <amosbird> Hi, how can I change the hotkeys listed here https://www.linux.com/learn/best-linux-keyboard-shortcuts
[17:00] <nacc> arooni: it works but is not supported, essentially
[17:01] <texla> longword, Looked at all the logs ..no find error
[17:13] <Jordan_U> texla: Are you actually having a problem or are you just worried about the message itself?
[17:13] <texla> Jordan_U, Only worried because it shows some error
[17:15] <Jordan_U> texla: I wouldn't personally invest too much time in looking then. "dmesg" might show something, though that should be captured in journalctl also. You could use a phone to video tape booting then look frame by frame.
[17:16] <texla> Jordan_U, I looked at dmesg could not find anything..I will now leave it along
[17:20] <luftraum> Привет?
[17:20] <tomreyn> !ru | luftraum
[17:20] <arooni> so is this the recommende method?  $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d (after doing update; upgrade; autoremove; update manager
[17:20] <tomreyn> arooni: no, the recommended / supported method is to do what the release notes say: wait until upgrades are supported.
[17:21] <tomreyn> i'm simply guessing you're discussing a 16.04 -> 18.04 upgrade, can only guess for lack of info.
[17:23] <tomreyn> arooni: okay, you discussed your plans earlier, i hadn't scrolled up enough.
[17:25] <sylv255> re , in the command "cmake -DOPENCV_EXTRA_MODULES_PATH=<opencv_contrib>/modules <opencv_source_directory>" what I have to put in place of <opencv_source_directory>  please ?
[17:27] <nacc> sylv255: the source directory of opencv?
[17:27] <thomas6886> I have a problem with the permissions of the serial port (dev/ttyUSB0). I run octoprint in a docker container with the user 'octoprint'. I added the user octoprint to the dialout group but still I get this: 'could not open port /dev/ttyUSB0: [Errno 13] Permission denied:'
[17:28] <sylv255> yes but how can I know it ?
[17:28] <nacc> sylv255: if you're building something with opencv, you should by definition know it.
[17:29] <sylv255> I built opencv a long time ago before installing opencv contrib
[17:29] <nacc> sylv255: that's not really relevant, when you built opencv, you had a source directory
[17:29] <nacc> sylv255: perhaps you want to ask in a opencv channel
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> sylv255: It's wherever you put the source you downloaded.
[17:34] <jhutchins_wk> sylv255: If you installed it from a binary non-source .deb, you don't have the source.
[17:36] <flying_sausages> Hey guys, I'm struggling to clean up some mess in my apt, I cannot get to remove pydio-core, as I get the following error:
[17:37] <flying_sausages> invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "reload" failed.\\\ dpkg: error processing package pydio-core (--remove): \\\ subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 127 \\\ Errors were encountered while processing: \\\ pydio-core \\\ E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:37] <flying_sausages> thing is apache2 isn't installed, it was autoremoved a while ago
[17:37] <flying_sausages> now any installation or remove I'm trying to do fail. I already tried autoclean but it won't get rid of this stubborn one
[17:38] <flying_sausages> any ideas how to start troubleshooting this?
[17:44] <flying_sausages> welp, sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/pydio-core.* did the trick I guess
[17:44] <Jordan_U> flying_sausages: Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep apache" and "sudo dpkg --configure -a".
[17:44] <flying_sausages> I wonder what I screwed up with this
[17:47] <Jerry> hey who running mint
[17:49] <Jerry> who running what?
[17:49] <SimonNL> I do Jerry. but are you aware this is ubuntu channel ?
[17:49] <SimonNL> and not meant for chit chat
[17:49] <Jerry> yes only
[17:50] <Jerry> or only what about deb,or sue,
[17:51] <Jerry> it all linux
[17:51] <sylv255> loacet yes i had a problem because the opencv version installed on the system was different from the one of opencv-contrib
[17:51] <sylv255> i try again
[17:52] <sylv255> cmake successfull this time
[17:52] <sylv255> make now
[17:52] <Jerry> nice
[17:52] <bunnyman13> hola guys bluh....
[17:53] <Jerry> hey
[17:53] <sylv255> excuse me I mistake the channels
[17:54] <Jerry> what dose that mean
[17:55] <Jerry>  I mistake the channels
[17:56] <zanadu1> he mistake the channel....
[17:56] <Jerry> r we having fun yet
[17:57] <Jerry> what's up
[17:57] <Jerry> is this a chat room
[17:59] <guideX> the latest ubuntu seems pretty swell so far
[17:59] <Jerry> werew is everone from
[17:59] <Jerry> florida
[18:01] <Jerry> its time to go bye bye
[18:01] <tgm4883> !ot
[18:01] <SimonNL> bye
[18:03] <alex72gr> hello! I have some issues with my HDMI audio output (Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series]. sometimes, instead of normal audio, the distortion is so severe that what I hear is actually NOISE. when I change the configuration from the mixer (profile: off) and then back to the Digital Stereo HDMI Output the problem is temporarily solved... the normal sound comes back, until for some unknown reason... it becomes "noise" agai
[18:03] <alex72gr> .
[18:05] <alex72gr> lately, I deactivated the onboard audio card (from BIOS)... since I never use it... the sound now is normal... but I'm not sure... for how long!
[18:05] <alex72gr> does anybody know... what's going on... and if there is a solution?
[18:06] <FManTropyx> "Processing was halted because there were too many errors." gg
[18:07] <orlando> hello
[18:07] <Guest28847> i see in the store that they dont have the last version of libre office..
[18:07] <Orlando_Reynoso> how can I install libre office last version from terminal?
[18:08] <FManTropyx> you should probably not buy free software
[18:09] <Orlando_Reynoso> me?
[18:12] <tomreyn> Orlando_Reynoso: this installs the latest version available on your release: sudo apt update;: sudo apt install libreoffice
[18:12] <tomreyn> Orlando_Reynoso: there may also be a PPA or snaps to get a newer version if that matters for some reason
[18:12] <tomreyn> !latest
[18:13] <FManTropyx> also running CentOS, I find Ubuntu somewhat well up-to-date ;)
[18:14] <xirg> so i used mv with the -b option but i don't see a backup
[18:14] <xirg> where might i fight the backup?
[18:14] <xirg> find*
[18:15] <tomreyn> xirg: read the man page again. --backup: make a backup of each existing *destination* file
[18:15] <tomreyn> xirg: or are you suggesting that the destination existed and was not preserved?=
[18:16] <xirg> destination existed, -b doesn't accept any arguments so i assume it has a designated spot to back up
[18:16] <lokus> hi- (u16.04.4) i installed kernel 4.15.0-13-generic, and had a kernel crash which produced a vmcore for me in /var/crash. i installed package linux-image-4.15.0-13-generic-dbgsym to be able to go through the kernel dump, but crash utility is telling me this when i go to view it: "crash: /usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux-4.15.0-13-generic and vmcore.201805251123 do not match!" <--- how could this be?
[18:17] <xirg> i am reading the man but --backup is not the same as -b and it's not clear where to find the backup after using -b
[18:17] <tomreyn> #cd; touch foo /tmp/foo; mv -b foo /tmp/foo; ls /tmp/foo*
[18:17] <tomreyn> xirg: it would append a ~
[18:18] <tomreyn> someuser@somehost:~$ touch foo /tmp/foo; mv -b foo /tmp/foo; ls /tmp/foo*
[18:18] <tomreyn> tmp/foo  /tmp/foo~
[18:19] <jmom> i there a way or program to emulate a andriod so i can run an apk that i created from the command line without running the whole emulated phone enviroment.. i just wanna test the apk not worried abbout compatablity
[18:19] <tomreyn> xirg: see the example above
[18:20] <xirg> hmm
[18:22] <xirg> oooh I see what i did wrong.. i tried to move an entire directory to overwrite a new directory, but instead it placed the new directory INSIDE the old directory
[18:22] <xirg> i intended to overwrite, but instead i moved inside it
[18:23] <tomreyn> lokus: that'd be puzzling me, too, maybe ask in #ubuntu-kernel if you can't get a meaningful response in here.
[18:24] <isaac__> hola a todos
[18:25] <lokus> tomreyn. thanks. i just tried another uname -r ; echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger, to be sure i was in fact running that correct kernel which i had installed dbgsym for.  same thing on this newer crash dump :\
[18:26] <tomreyn> lokus: does (gnu) 'file' on the vmcore provid einformation on which kernel version it seems to have been gathere don?
[18:27] <lokus> tomreyn: nothing too useful: "vmcore.201805251422: ELF 64-bit LSB core file x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), SVR4-style"
[18:27] <tomreyn> lokus: also, it'd be good to see: dpkg -l | grep ^linux
[18:28] <lokus> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vdQd8mDRyP/
[18:28] <FManTropyx> the system reports a myriad of problems, but I don't want to touch it, because I've got things running on it!
[18:29] <derjanni> using irssi with Ubuntu on Windows Subsystem for Linux feels some sort of weird.
[18:30] <lokus> tomreyn: '# strings vmcore | grep $(uname -r)' gives me plenty matches too. hmph.
[18:31] <syb0rg> hi all. Does anyone know which versions of ubuntu the new opt-out data collection is present on?
[18:31] <syb0rg> Is it just vanilla ubuntu desktop version?
[18:32] <tomreyn> lokus: note the different package versions between linux-image-4.15.0-13-generic and -dbgsym
[18:33] <syb0rg> derjanni, it always weirds me out to see people using bash in windows 10, haha
[18:34] <lokus> tomreyn: yeah the '~16.04.1' delta? i noticed that, but didn't entirely understand the difference. i thought i installed things from the usual proper channels, maybe i will backtrack
[18:36] <jmom> i there a way or program to emulate a andriod so i can run an apk that i created from the command line without running the whole emulated phone enviroment.. i just wanna test the apk not worried abbout compatablity
[18:37] <syb0rg> jmom, this project looks like an attempt to run a very stripped down android on linux: http://www.shashlik.io/what-is/
[18:37] <syb0rg> don't know if that is suitable for your needs
[18:38] <luxio> How do I disable thumbnail caching? I don't want any files being created in ~/.cache/thumbnails/*
[18:38] <ntd> chattr +i the dir
[18:38] <jmom> syb0rg, i will give it a read.. thank you :)
[18:38] <ntd> or just disable tb gen through dconf/gconf
[18:40] <syb0rg> so nobody knows the answer to my question? (Which ubuntu variants is the new data collection tool included in)
[18:40] <Knight_Wrk> the last one
[18:40] <Knight_Wrk> syb0rg: 18/04
[18:41] <syb0rg> hehe I know that Knight_Wrk, I mean like the different flavors such as kubuntu, lubuntu, and of greatest interest to me: server edition
[18:41] <orlando_> +z
[18:41] <jmom> syb0rg, just wondering.. do you mean data mining ?
[18:41] <orlando_> hello
[18:41] <syb0rg> jmom, ubuntu 18.04 has an opt out data collection tool that sends basic system information to canonical
[18:41] <syb0rg> that is all I am asking about
[18:42] <orlando_> I need a program to make linux and windows USB startup USB, some recommendation?
[18:42] <syb0rg> orlando_, when you say startup usb do you mean you want to install ubuntu and windows side by side on a thumb drive?
[18:43] <syb0rg> Or you want to set up both installers on the thumb drive
[18:43] <jmom> syb0rg, oh ok i see.. i dont use ubuntu because of that and the bloat.. i remember reading something about it and how to do it.. one sec
[18:44] <jmom> orlando_, multisystem is my favorite but it only runs on linux though
[18:44] <leftyfb> jmom: why are you here if you don't run ubuntu?
[18:45] <syb0rg> because secretly he knows he belongs on ubuntu leftyfb
[18:45] <jmom> leftyfb, i use bungie, lubuntu , and minimal install
[18:45] <leftyfb> jmom: both of those are ubuntu
[18:46] <syb0rg> eh, lubuntu and minial are ubuntu
[18:46] <leftyfb> jmom: you mean you don't run Unity/Gnome
[18:46] <syb0rg> *minimal
[18:47] <jmom> syb0rg, yea thats correct sorry.
[18:47] <jmom> leftyfb, correct :)
[18:48] <tanishimir> hi
[18:48] <lokus> tomreyn: that helped- hunted down the right '4.15.0-13.14~16.04.1' version for dbgsym as well and it no longer complains about that. but now i get 'crash: cannot resolve "init_level4_pgt"' instead. i'll keep googling
[18:50] <xirg> when I shutdown ubuntu it takes it's time waiting for something, is this because a task is running?
[18:50] <jmom> syb0rg, https://www.howtogeek.com/349844/how-to-stop-ubuntu-from-collecting-data-about-your-pc/
[18:50] <lokus> ah looks like i need crash 7.2
[18:51] <huntress1ove> Hi there
[18:51] <huntress1ove> :)
[18:51] <syb0rg> ah alright jmom, it appearss from your link that the data collection tool is ubuntu-report, which is not installed on my server edition. Thanks
[18:52] <syb0rg> I'm kinda surprised I can't find a page on ubuntu.com about it, but eh, whatever.
[18:52] <huntress1ove> Hm. Im haveing problems whit vsftpd on ubuntu is this something you guys can help whit or do i need to go to vsftp support irc?
[18:52] <syb0rg> if someone knows how to help you here they will huntress1ove, but you would need to ask your question first
[18:53] <Eca_flipette> plop
[18:53] <huntress1ove> well it connects and starts up well, but i cannot connect to it via filezilla whit any protocol, user or IP or host name...
[18:53] <huntress1ove> status says OK
[18:53] <orlando_> jmom: I'm using ubuntu and i want to be able to make a bootable usb for windows or linux
[18:54] <orlando_> i will try multisystem
[18:54] <huntress1ove> sudo service vsftpd status = ok
[18:54] <jmom> syb0rg, hmm oh ok.. thats not the one i found initially.. the other one mentioned 6 steps to do after all the stuff on that stuff but i cant find it
[18:54] <orlando_> when i'm in windows i used other app
[18:54] <Eca_flipette> windows is here only to get hacked by Webcaù
[18:55] <Eca_flipette> ^e_e^
[18:55] <Eca_flipette> -ù +m;
[18:55] <syb0rg> it's all good jmom, I'm *guessing* they wouldn't add data collection to their server edition anyway
[18:55] <jmom> orlando_, https://www.pendrivelinux.com/ everything you need is in here
[18:56] <huntress1ove> so how do i setup vsftpd? its active and status says ok, i just dont know how to connect.
[18:56] <syb0rg> so huntress1ove, do you have a firewall? Have you forwarded the necessary ports?
[18:56] <huntress1ove> yes
[18:56] <huntress1ove> ports are forwarded in uwf
[18:57] <huntress1ove> ufw*
[18:57] <syb0rg> and on your router?
[18:57] <orlando_> jmom: Looking
[18:57] <huntress1ove> Yep.
[18:57] <syb0rg> and have you done any configuration on vsftpd besides getting it running?
[18:57] <huntress1ove> No i only got it running after that i havent tuched the config
[18:58] <ioria> huntress1ove, you connect with 'ftp ip'
[18:58] <syb0rg> maybe check the basics here huntress1ove? https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/how-to-install-and-configure-vsftpd/#configuration
[18:58] <huntress1ove> but that dosent work, neither in filezilla or commandlone
[18:59] <syb0rg> and then if it still doesn't work after checking the config, look at the log files for errors
[18:59] <ioria> huntress1ove, you have other ftp servers running ?
[18:59] <syb0rg> but that is all the time I have for troubleshooting now, I have to step away from my computer
[19:00] <jmom> syb0rg, see yaa g;
[19:00] <jmom> gl
[19:00] <huntress1ove> Hm i might have yes, how can i check? the problem is this is a Minecraft server tower wich i have been put on the responsibility for manageing via teamviwer and i need ftp to work but before that theres was a ftp configuration and ssh configuration but we made a clean install of ubuntu
[19:00] <huntress1ove> does this matter or?
[19:00] <ioria> huntress1ove,  dpkg -l | grep  ftp
[19:01] <huntress1ove> gimme a sec Tornevall
[19:01] <huntress1ove> ioria:
[19:01] <Tornevall> Hm..?
[19:02] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: since nobody else seems to have mentioned it, I'd urge using SFTP rather than FTP, since FTP is an unsecure mess. If you still want to use FTP, I'd ask that we get the error message you're receiving when trying to connect
[19:02] <Tornevall> Stuck in "Grimsby" on netflix, så there might be plenty of secs here :D
[19:02] <huntress1ove> i dont care if its sftp or ftp whatever works and is the safest option ill take.
[19:03] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: you mentioned a clean install? Do you already have SSH access?
[19:03] <huntress1ove> no
[19:03] <Tornevall> ah.. wrong person highlighted. haha
[19:03] <huntress1ove> yeah sorry about that Tornevall
[19:03] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: how many people need access? Just you or a bunch of others?
[19:03] <Tornevall> :D
[19:04] <orlando_> jmom: you can create a windows booteable usb with multiboot?
[19:04] <huntress1ove> Just me and the server owner, also i do apperently have ssh acces. the owner got that working yesterday.
[19:05] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: well if you've got SSH access, then you should already be able to SFTP
[19:05] <ioria> huntress1ove,  apart another conflicting server, might be also an ssl issue
[19:05] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: and since the server owner is the only other one needing access, I'd just stick with SFTP
[19:06] <huntress1ove> yes i can do it via terminal but not via filezilla froma remote PC like my own, this is a teamviwer session and i can do it from whitin the machine but when i try from a outside network like my own PC i cannot connect either that or i am connecting whit the wrong ip/hostname
[19:07] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: you can't SSH to it remotely, but you can if you're local to the box?
[19:07] <huntress1ove> lemme check
[19:07] <huntress1ove> yes
[19:08] <orlando_> jmom: _> jmom: you can create a windows booteable usb with multiboot?
[19:08] <huntress1ove> that is correct tgm4883 i cannot from putty on my own machine but i can from whitin the box
[19:08] <huntress1ove> seems like a portforwarding problem to me.
[19:08] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: my guess is firewall.
[19:09] <huntress1ove> shuld i disable it temp. and see if i can?
[19:09] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: can you pastebin 'sudo ufw status'
[19:09] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: that would work too
[19:09] <ioria> huntress1ove,  using only  ufw ?
[19:10] <huntress1ove> yes only ufw
[19:10] <huntress1ove> let me try
[19:10] <ioria> huntress1ove,  sudo ufw disable
[19:11] <huntress1ove> still cant connect
[19:11] <tgm4883> huntress1ove: can you explain the network a bit more? Is this in a CoLo, AWS, etc?
[19:12] <ioria> huntress1ove,  and still waiting for   dpkg -l | grep  ftp
[19:12] <huntress1ove> oh yeah
[19:12] <huntress1ove> suotty ioria
[19:12] <Eca_flipette> For ssh, you need the server's password/login to open a secured session.
[19:13] <Eca_flipette> Configure the host and the client, that's all =:D
[19:13] <huntress1ove> pastebin it or just plain paste it ioria
[19:13] <ioria> huntress1ove,  paste.ubuntu.com is ok
[19:13] <tgm4883> Eca_flipette: that's not all
[19:14] <ioria> huntress1ove,  or   dpkg -l | grep  ftp | pastebinit
[19:14] <huntress1ove> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NCYS4b3H5C/
[19:14] <ioria> huntress1ove,  you have pure ... is running atm ?
[19:15] <huntress1ove> this is so above my freggin paygrade/head, how do i know if its running ?
[19:15] <tgm4883> ioria: pure was removed
[19:15] <ioria> tgm4883, not entirely
[19:16] <huntress1ove> well i can say for sure i dont need it. The owner says she dosent know what it is.
[19:17] <ioria> huntress1ove,  ps -A | grep -i pure
[19:18] <huntress1ove> its not outputting anything
[19:18] <ioria> huntress1ove,  ps -A | grep -i ftp
[19:18] <tgm4883> ioria: true, common files are left over, but that shouldn't be enough to run
[19:18] <ioria> tgm4883, yeah
[19:19] <tgm4883> ioria: huntress1ove in any case. I'd lean toward the issue being edge firewall related.
[19:19] <Eca_flipette> Hm...
[19:19] <ioria> probably
[19:20] <huntress1ove> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qNwhJPr6jB/
[19:20] <tgm4883> ioria: huntress1ove since we know connecting locally works, and ufw is disabled. We can't continue to troubleshooting (whether we're troubleshooting FTP or SSH) without knowing more about the network. Which is probably offtopic for this channel
[19:20] <gitgud19> hi
[19:20] <ioria> huntress1ove,  now what are those 'ftps' there ...
[19:21] <huntress1ove> Hmm..
[19:21] <huntress1ove> i  dont know actually
[19:21] <huntress1ove> is the number PIDS?
[19:21] <ioria> yep
[19:21] <huntress1ove> ill close em then
[19:22] <ioria> looks like clients ?
[19:22] <ioria> huntress1ove,  and a misterious line : 3.0.3-9build1                       amd64        lightweight, efficient FTP server written for security
[19:22] <huntress1ove> Hm.
[19:23] <huntress1ove> yeah that was a upsy, from another ls grep
[19:23] <ioria> huntress1ove,  what did you install mate ?
[19:23] <Eca_flipette> The yes wins to the no to win the yes. We need to go on the go ; yes or no ?
[19:23] <huntress1ove> vsftpd that all...
[19:23] <huntress1ove> and ssh
[19:24] <huntress1ove> but if thers anyone connectedc to it its me but im not...
[19:24] <ioria> ok
[19:24] <huntress1ove> can i close the connections somehow?
[19:25] <Eca_flipette> Meh '-'
[19:26] <ioria> huntress1ove,  reboot  ? :þ
[19:26] <Eca_flipette> Unplugging the netWORK
[19:26] <huntress1ove> Hmm how does a connection from terminal look like? since im able to  use this: ftp -p remoteip then it asks me for a pass and a username and logs in okay
[19:27] <ioria> huntress1ove,  so vsftpd is working ... ?
[19:27] <huntress1ove> well yes from whitin the box whit the IP...
[19:27] <huntress1ove> but ...
[19:28] <huntress1ove> hm
[19:28] <huntress1ove> this conbfuzzels me.
[19:29] <Eca_flipette> \o/
[19:29] <blackflow> it is discombobulating, isn't it.
[19:30] <ericrajuin> hello, is it normal for disabled snap still shows up as a loop device?
[19:30] <ioria> ericrajuin, maybe it's core
[19:31] <guideX> safesquid keeps saying,  'libgmp.so.3 not found please install dependencies and try again
[19:31] <guideX> but what do I install
[19:35] <jmom> guideX, apt install libmemcached-dev
[19:36] <guideX> ok thanks
[19:36] <jmom> guideX, https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/3849
[19:36] <Eca_flipette> *o*
[19:38] <Eca_flipette> re
[19:39] <Eca_flipette> I'm looking to take a snapshot of a video, that longs 10sec. I have it in mp4...
[19:39] <guideX> hmm same problem
[19:39] <Eca_flipette> How to snapshot it ?
[19:39] <Eca_flipette> ?...
[19:39] <guideX> so, I thought there's a way to make the dependencies auto install sometimes
[19:40] <jmom> guideX, sudo apt install libgmp-dev : this should work
[19:43] <Cruk> hi there everyone
[19:43] <Cruk> :)
[19:43] <tomreyn> hello Cruk
[19:43] <jmom> guideX, find /usr/lib/ -name "libgmp*"
[19:44] <Cruk> I have installed ubuntu on my USB drive and I chose the USB drive itself to be the location where bootloader will be installed. But Ubuntu has decided that it might be best to messup the local systems boot by installing the bootloader to the hard disk
[19:44] <Cruk> Now the usb is not bootable from other PCs
[19:44] <Cruk> and this systems boot is messed up
[19:45] <Cruk> how can I fix this situation?
[19:45] <tomreyn> hmm, that sounds bad. did the installe rnot ask you where to install the boot loader?
[19:45] <Cruk> Yes, I told it to install it on to the USB
[19:45] <jmom> Cruk, u want /boot on the usb and set the bootload aswell for the usb and you should be good.
[19:45] <Cruk> but the usb is only bootable on the machine where it was installed
[19:46] <tomreyn> Cruk: which ubuntu release is this, and desktop or server?
[19:46] <Cruk> 18 LTS desktop
[19:46] <tomreyn> do you mean 18.04?
[19:46] <Cruk> tomreyn: yes
[19:47] <tomreyn> so you used the default desktop installer. is this an amd64 architecture? or rather an ARM device or something else?
[19:47] <Cruk> tomreyn: Yes the default installer. this is amd64
[19:48] <tomreyn> Cruk: okay, and do you have uefi or a legacy bios?
[19:48] <Cruk> tomreyn: uefi
[19:48] <tomreyn> okay, this should be anough information for me to try and reproduce this (later).
[19:49] <tomreyn> if you think you actually made a mistake, though, please point it out so i wont waste any time.
[19:50] <tomreyn> now for how to proceed: whil running from the installation on your usb stick, run grub-install against the usb-stick itself.
[19:51] <tomreyn> Cruk: lsblk will list those storage devices linux knows about. you could post the output here using: lsblk | pastebinit
[19:51] <Cruk> tomreyn: ok, I downloaded the iso , burned it onto a dvd, using poweriso, booted up the laptop, started the default installer, chose 'something else' when it asked where to install the OS, then I formatted the USB, and chose the usb stick for where to install the boot loader. But ubuntu decided to install the boot loader onto the disk rather than the hard disk where I asked it to.
[19:51] <tomreyn> (and then just post the url returned here)
[19:51] <fishcooker> error occured while mounting /boot/efi...
[19:51] <jmom> Cruk, u want /boot on the usb and set the bootload aswell for the usb and you should be good.
[19:52] <Cruk> jmom: you mean I should move the boot from the hard disk (if any) on to the usb stick and it will be ok?
[19:52] <tomreyn> Cruk: thanks for summing it up again.
[19:53] <tomreyn> Cruk: is /boot not on the usb stick then?
[19:53] <Cruk> tomreyn: Ubuntu is so much fun!
[19:53] <Cruk> Such an entertainment
[19:54] <Cruk> tomreyn: yes there is a boot folder on the usb stick
[19:54] <Cruk> only other pcs are not able to boot from it
[19:54] <tomreyn> Cruk: ok. so just install grub to the usb stick
[19:54] <tomreyn> ...while running off it
[19:55] <jmom> Cruk, no i mean.. you should create a seperate /boot ext3 or ext4 and then set the boot loader to the usb /dev/sdd not the /boot /dev/sdd1
[19:55] <tomreyn> jmom: how do you know what Cruk's sdd is?
[19:55] <jmom> Cruk, /dev/sd*
[19:55] <Eca_flipette> *O* |M| [G]
[19:56] <tomreyn> jmom: why the separate /boot ?
[19:56] <Cruk> I got it
[19:56] <Eca_flipette> You juste need to do : sudo grub-install /dev/sda ; but be careful for your windows - this command will install the grubUEFI bootloader to default HDD boot sector... ! Check your Basic Input/Output System configuration before doing anything
[19:56] <guideX> huh, safesquid is still saying the same, 'libgmp.so.3 not found"
[19:57] <Cruk> you mean I should have created a boot partition on the stick?
[19:57] <Eca_flipette> to enter in the command menu you need to access you motherboard...
[19:57] <Sven_vB> when systemd decides to boot Ubuntu xenial 16.04.4 into an emergency shell, how do I ask it why it thinks I'd need an emergency shell?
[19:57] <Cruk> jmom: ?
[19:57] <tomreyn> Eca_flipette: how do you know what sda points to for Cruk?
[19:57] <Eca_flipette> In general, sda is (hd0,0)
[19:58] <Eca_flipette> where grub usually install
[19:58] <Eca_flipette> +s;
[19:58] <tomreyn> not neccessarily, no.
[19:58] <Two_Dogs> guideX: install libgmp, or is it installed now?
[19:59] <guideX> I have installed it, but I donn't know exactly what I need
[19:59] <tomreyn> Cruk: so i still recommend you post the lsblk output.
[19:59] <tomreyn> ...so that we can identify the right target device
[20:00] <guideX> I've installed 'libgmp-dev'
[20:00] <jmom> tomreyn, i know you dont have to but i have had trouble in the past like him.. seperating fixes this for me
[20:00] <guideX> and libmemcached-dev
[20:00] <Two_Dogs> guideX: perhaps its a version issue, the app wants specific libgmp , the ..so.3 thing, which version of libgmp is installed?
[20:00] <jmom> guideX, find /usr/lib/ -name "libgmp*"
[20:01] <tomreyn> jmom: well Cruk has a /boot on the usb stick already, just need to make sure the kernels went there and not onto the hdd.
[20:01] <tomreyn> + install grub to the stick
[20:02] <tomreyn> kernels + grub config, that is
[20:02] <Cruk> tomreyn: https://pastebin.com/TNu84rsa
[20:02] <jmom> tomreyn, i see what your saying and probably alot easier than installing again too :)
[20:03] <tomreyn> Cruk: when you ran lsblk, had you booted into the usb stick? i.e. was linux running from the usb stick at this time?
[20:03] <tomreyn> jmom: let's hope it actually works, too ;)
[20:03] <Cruk> tomreyn: yes from the USB
[20:04] <Sven_vB> … turned out it wanted some flags changed in fstab, then explicitly reboot. (it won't detect the changes until reboot.)
[20:04] <jmom> tomreyn, i believe in you ;)
[20:04] <tomreyn> Cruk: there are two storages mentioned (besides the optical drive), namely sda and sdb. sda is 470 GB, sdb is 8 GB. i assume the usb stuick is usb then?
[20:05] <tomreyn> jmom: :) thanks
[20:05] <tomreyn> Cruk: i meant to write: i assume the usb stuick is *sdb* then?
[20:05] <Cruk> tomreyn: yeap
[20:06] <tomreyn> Cruk: do you still agree?
[20:06] <Cruk> tomreyn: with what? :)
[20:07] <Two_Dogs> https://goo.gl/X5vtwy Cruk i have kept one of these lives handy since having it recommended to me as the failsafe grub fixer
[20:07] <tomreyn> Cruk: i initially wrote "i assume the usb stuick is usb then?", which you agreed to (but it did not make sense due to a mistake i made). i then corrected my mistake, writing "i assume the usb stuick is *sdb* then?". do you agree with this conclusion?
[20:09] <tomreyn> Cruk: here's the samequestion, put simpler:do you think the 8 GB storage device 'sdb' is your usb stick?
[20:10] <Cruk> tomreyn: oh yes the usb is sdb
[20:10] <Cruk> and sdb is usb
[20:11] <tomreyn> Cruk: okay. according to the lsblk output, unfortunately, sdb has only a single file system on it, no partition table and no /boot (in contrary to what you stated earlier).
[20:11] <Cruk> tomreyn: you mean in contrary to asking the installer to install the bootloader to usb?
[20:12] <Cruk> Well it didn't actually allow me to brother
[20:12] <Cruk> Now I am going to make a boot partition using gparted
[20:13] <tomreyn> Cruk: my current theory is that you manually partitioned sdb and chose to install the / (root) file system directly to it. but it can still be an installer bug, i don't mean to make any claims, just trying to find a way forward (and to reproduce the bug, if it is one)
[20:14] <tomreyn> Cruk: so, yes, you will need to get a boot partition onto the usb stick, but to do so, you'll also need to get a partition table onto it. and that'll mean overwriting the current file system on it.
[20:14] <Cruk> tomreyn: yes I dd zerod the usb stick, and then told the installer to make a ext4 partion on it and the mount point to be /. And as you said I told it to install the boot loader on the sdb device
[20:14] <tomreyn> i'm not convinced that gparted can co this for you
[20:15] <Cruk> tomreyn: ok what should I do then to make a boot partition on this usb stick?
[20:15] <tomreyn> Cruk: okay, but then it could not, since you previously chose to use sdb for /, and not to partition it, meaning it could have no other use.
[20:17] <tomreyn> Cruk:i'm afraid the best way forward will be to reinstall to the usb sticl. your goal will need to be to have a partition table on the usb stick next time (right now you have the file system directly on the raw storage). then have a partition for /boot and another partition for /, and then you'll be able to also install grub on this storage (it goes right in front of the partition table)
[20:18] <tomreyn> Cruk: actually you'll also need an ESP (efi system partition), so it'll be bootable on uefi
[20:18] <Cruk> ok so three partiotions over all
[20:19] <tomreyn> so make this /boot (ext4, 250 MB), ESP (fat16, 5 MB), / (ext4, the rest)
[20:19] <tomreyn> ESP need to be flagged ESP and bootable.
[20:20] <Cruk> Ubuntu default installer doesn't do this. should I use gparted to format the disk and make these partitions on it?
[20:21] <Eca_flipette> u should do a mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sda2
[20:21] <Eca_flipette> with the sudo password
[20:21] <Eca_flipette> HUUUPS
[20:21] <Eca_flipette> wrong chat
[20:22] <Cruk> Eca_flipette: thank you for all the suggestions up there. Sorry that I couldn't follow them and that I am going to reinstall
[20:22] <jmom> tomreyn, does he need to use gparted to set the usb partition table or can the install create the partition table
[20:22] <vy> I've just been trying to install Ubuntu 18.04 Server but could not figure out how to enable full-disk encryption. Any ideas?
[20:22] <guideX> here's a screenshot of the issue I'm having maybe has more info http://skywirenews.com/squid.jpg
[20:22] <Cruk> vy: all I know is that ulike windows linux is really hard to setup using an encrypted file system
[20:23] <tomreyn> Cruk: if the default 18.04 desktop installer can't create a UEFI bootable usb stick (i will verify this shortly) then you can use the *alternative* server installer to do the partitioning (which can also be done using gparted or similar before you start it)  and installation.
[20:23] <jmom> guideX, did you install it and check if it was installed?
[20:23] <tomreyn> vy: use the *alternative* server installer, see the text on top of the page you downlooaded your 'live' installer from
[20:23] <Cruk> tomreyn: how long till you can verify I? Should I standby?
[20:23] <guideX> jmom: I'm not entirely sure which package I'm missing actually
[20:23] <jmom> guideX, sudo apt install libgmp-dev - to install
[20:24] <tomreyn> Cruk: probably 15 minutes
[20:24] <vy> tomreyn: Let me check...
[20:24] <syborg> Cruk, do you care about your bootloader also being encrypted? It is otherwise quite easy to set up an encrypted linux install
[20:24] <jmom> guideX, find /usr/lib/ -name "libgmp*" - to see if its installed
[20:24] <guideX> when I do the libgmp-dev, it says it's already installed
[20:24] <Cruk> tomreyn: I will wait then. Thank you for all the hard work
[20:25] <Cruk> syborg: Seriously? You can even make the bootloader encrypted????
[20:25] <syborg> tomreyn, I missed the bit of the convo before I joined (obviously) but why do you think that ubuntu couldn't create a uefi install on a thumb drive?
[20:25] <jmom> guideX, what does this give you : find /usr/lib/ -name "libgmp*"
[20:25] <syborg> Cruk, yeah it is possible but I have never messed with it
[20:25] <Cruk> syborg: Please teach me how?!
[20:26] <Edisto> i'm using a tablet without a middle mouse button... Is there an easy way to bind system middle mouse as being alt + left click?
[20:26] <syborg> I think it relies on secure boot, so you have a signed mini bootloader that decrypts your encrypted grub and launches it
[20:26] <syborg> but I have never tried, that is all I know
[20:26] <Cruk> syborg: ok, how can I do a normal encrypted setup then?
[20:26] <Cruk> cause it was impossilbe the last time I tried
[20:26] <arooni> just upgraded to 18.04 successfully ; but /root partition is pretty full; apparently there is 2.3gb in apt directory; how do i clear out old packages etc
[20:26] <Cruk> about two years ago
[20:27] <Cruk> arooni: tried sudo apt clear?
[20:27] <syborg> Cruk, the installer has an option to do it automatically
[20:27] <syborg> is that isn't sufficient for your need, what are you trying to do?
[20:27] <arooni> Cruk:  you mean clean?
[20:28] <Cruk> yeap sorry
[20:28] <Cruk> clean
[20:28] <Cruk> ^ arooni
[20:28] <vy> tomreyn: I have found the link to the alternative installer. Though wondering something... How am I supposed to know that the alternative installer provides disk encryption during installation?
[20:28] <guideX> jmom: libgmp.so, libgmp.so.10.3.2, libgmpxx.a, libgmp.a, libgmp.so.10, libgmpxx.so.4.5.2, libgmpxx.so.4, openssl-1.0.0/engines/libgmp.so, libgmp.xx.so
[20:28] <arooni> Cruk: oh thats good ; is 3gb free enough for root partition
[20:28] <tomreyn> syborg: i'm not yet convinced that it cannot. it's the experience Cruk's made.
[20:29] <Cruk> arooni: depends I think.
[20:29] <Cruk> on what you want to do on this machine
[20:29] <tomreyn> vy: by reading the text on the download page for the now default 'live' installer
[20:29] <arooni>  already like the notifcaitions more
[20:29] <syborg> tomreyn, I haven't specifically tried that but I'm pretty close to certain it can
[20:29] <arooni> how do i go about expanding grid to a 4x4 or 9x9?
[20:29] <arooni> of virtual desktops
[20:30] <Cruk> arooni: then I think you better expand the partition space. unless you are like me who is only experimenting
[20:30] <tomreyn> vy: don't get me wrong, i think making the 'live' server installer a default was a very bad decision at this time.
[20:30] <jmom> guideX, ok so its installed but not seeing it for some reason.
[20:30] <vy> tomreyn: I still cannot see anything related with encryption in https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server Would you mind pointing me to the right page, please?
[20:31] <tomreyn> vy: it does not explicitly mention encryption there, but it says: "This release uses our new installer, Subiquity. If you require advanced networking and storage features, such as RAID and LVM, please use the traditional installer found on the alternative downloads page."
[20:33] <Eca_flipette> Hum... Oh ! I've lost my bluetooth key on the keyboard... Perhaps if I unplug the card i would get my key back
[20:33] <Eca_flipette> *o*
[20:34] <Cruk> is ubuntu drive encryption fault safe? like if there is a power cut? multiple unexpected system resets? Cause even highly advertised solutions like bestcrypt (they say that goverments around the world use it) has failed me and costed me before. one time the system restarted and I nver got my data back.
[20:34] <syborg> I haven't had issues, I've lost power on luks setups with no issue before
[20:35] <syborg> but backups are *always* advisable
[20:35] <Cruk> DON'T USE BESTCRYPT
[20:35] <jmom> guideX, i believe you just to create a sym link - https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6360724/installing-ghc-binaries-on-linux-cant-find-libgmp-so
[20:35] <syborg> will won't =P
[20:35] <Cruk> syborg: Thank you :)
[20:36] <guideX> jmom: ok cool I'll try it
[20:36] <tomreyn> Cruk: the folks whose vpn you are using most likely also use it on their servers.
[20:36] <Cruk> https://www.jetico.com/data-encryption/encrypt-hard-drives-bestcrypt-volume-encryption
[20:36] <Cruk> I mean Bestcrypt volume is good, really good, so much good that they even endup blocking yourself from accessing your files!!!
[20:36] <Cruk> Which is not what I need
[20:36] <tomreyn> it -> dmcrypt-luks
[20:37] <syborg> the most secure encryption is shred /dev/sda
[20:37] <syborg> encrypts all your data as unrecoverable noise =P
[20:37] <Cruk> tomreyn: What do you mean? rise up you mean?
[20:37] <Cruk> how do you know they use jetico bestcrypt?
[20:38] <tomreyn> Cruk: right. but i guess that's OT here. i'm just saying it's trusted by many.
[20:38] <Cruk> tomreyn: ?
[20:38] <Cruk> tomreyn: what app you talking about? bestcrypt or luks?
[20:38] <Cruk> which one is trusted by many?
[20:38] <tomreyn> Cruk: dmcrypt-luks. i have never heard of the other thing.
[20:39] <syborg> yeah, luks is pretty much the standard filesystem encryption tool on linux
[20:39] <Cruk> oooh. got it. yes. Rise up is all about opensource and privacy. I was really scratching my head here when you said they are probably using jetico!!!!
[20:39] <syborg> Cruk, you never answered my question earlier. What kind of encrpytion setup are you aiming for? And why isn't the live installer FDE option sufficient for your needs?
 it -> dmcrypt-luks
[20:40] <Cruk> syborg: it is super is is more than sufficient. I only have never been able to get it to work
[20:40] <Cruk> I only endup locking my self out
[20:40] <syborg> Odd, what error are you getting?
[20:40] <Cruk> don't know how to use it
[20:40] <syborg> Or it just won't decrypt?
[20:41] <Cruk> It was about two years ago the last time I tried it. It didn't boot as far as I can remember
[20:41] <syborg> Interesting. I have never had that issue with the installer's built in approach to FDE
[20:41] <Cruk> I should try it again if you say it has become this simple.
[20:41] <Cruk> is FDE the same as luks syborg ?
[20:42] <syborg> yeah, it is literally just checking a box and entering a password Cruk
[20:42] <syborg> FDE is just Full Disk Encryption
[20:42] <syborg> and on ubuntu it uses LUKS
[20:42] <Cruk> Awesome I am gonna try it after tomreyn's verification
[20:42] <Cruk> tomreyn: Was I wong about the state of the installer?
[20:42] <syborg> so even if for some reason the installer won't use UEFI installing to a thumb drive, it can definitely install with MSDOS/BIOS
[20:42] <Cruk> did you check it?
[20:42] <syborg> is UEFI really critical?
[20:43] <Cruk> syborg: I only want my usb stick to be global to be bootable from anywhere, that is why I want uefi
[20:43] <syborg> If so, and ubuntu's installer for some reason defaults to BIOS mode, you could manually set it up and it should be fine, but more work
[20:43] <syborg> Cruk, I would go with BIOS in that case
[20:43] <syborg> UEFI machines can boot in BIOS mode
[20:44] <Cruk> syborg: you mean lucks doesn't work with uefi?
[20:44] <syborg> nope, luks doesn't caree
[20:44] <syborg> *care
[20:44] <Cruk> so why are you suggesting to only go with bios?
[20:44] <syborg> I mean that for a universally bootable USB stick, MSDOS/BIOS is a good choice
[20:44] <Cruk> some recent systems don't recognize bios at all
[20:44] <Cruk> like a new laptop that I saw a few days ago
[20:44] <syborg> hmm, I have never had that issue but I suppose it could happen
[20:45] <Cruk> ONLY uefi
[20:45] <syborg> was compatability mode disabled in the BIOS?
[20:45] <syborg> *UEFI settings
[20:45] <syborg> well regardless, I am sure you can make a UEFI install work
[20:46] <Cruk> syborg: the thing was expensive like 8k$ or something and no matter where I looked for there was no fall back to bios option anywhere in the bios. A friend asked me to install windows on it for him
[20:46] <syborg> I would format the USB stick with a GPT partition table and create a EFI partition
[20:46] <syborg> that might cause the installer to use UEFI if for some reason it is defaulting to BIOS
[20:46] <Edisto> anyone know how to set alt + left click = to middle mouse?
[20:47] <tomreyn> Cruk: this will roughly have been what you were presented during installation. http://i.imgur.com/bJxYwwJ.png (you probably had soem partitions on sda though). what you would have needed to do is to create a "new partition table" on /dev/sdb and then create the partitions i discussed above (esp, /boot, /) and, on the bottom of the screen, choose to install the boot loader to sdb (default was sda there).
[20:47] <syborg> and make sure the live installer is booted in UEFI mode
[20:49] <Two_Dogs> Edisto: your system-settings > mouse config panel offer options for alternate keys?
[20:49] <Cruk> tomreyn: excelent this is exactly what I was presented with.
[20:49] <Cruk> and I only created a single ext4 partition
[20:49] <Cruk> my mistake so sorry
[20:50] <syborg> hehe, well that would force BIOS mode Cruk
[20:50] <Cruk> syborg: what would force bios mode?
[20:50] <Edisto> Two_Dogs: no... do I have to install something for that feature? mouse and touchpad just have primary button and mouse speed options
[20:50] <syborg> installing to a single ext4 partition Cruk
[20:51] <syborg> if there is no ESP partition it has to use the MBR
[20:51] <syborg> therefore BIOS mode
[20:51] <Cruk> on my system yes. But is still is bootable only on one machine and the usb is not global. Maybe I should have tried booting from bios.
[20:51] <syborg> ?
[20:51] <Cruk> maybe mybios settings is not right
[20:52] <syborg> I think tomreyn is pointing you in the right direction Cruk
[20:52] <Two_Dogs> Edisto: does the installer show some app to expand mouse configuration?
[20:53] <tomreyn> Cruk: so this is roughly what you'd needed to do, i think (haven't finished the installation, yet): http://i.imgur.com/yy0TNf1.png (ignore the the 2x 1mb free space there, that's just a leftover)
[20:53] <Edisto> Two_Dogs: mouse & touchpad does not. i'm using 18.04 is there another mouse config option somewhere?
[20:54] <sla3k> Hi, can anybody please have a look at: https://pastebin.com/M1aFMqk1 we are running out of space on / which is an LV, but then I have .Private which is encrypted. My understanding is that I can add more disk space to "/dev/mapper/matrix--vg-root" and "/home/kazan/.Private" will reflect the new, increased size automatically. Please correct me if I am wrong.
[20:54] <syborg> looks right to me tomreyn
[20:54] <sla3k> I have not set this system up so not sure what is happening here
[20:55] <sla3k> /home/user/.Private ***
[20:55] <Two_Dogs> Edisto: you mean on another desktop capable of running on 18.04? plasma offers a nice mouse/touchpad config panel, you have not shared what you are using
[20:56] <Cruk> tomreyn: thank you a million times but what about that ESP fat16 5mb partition you told me to make?
[20:56] <Cruk> https://i.imgur.com/yy0TNf1.png ?
[20:56] <Cruk> it is not here
[20:57] <syborg> yeah it is, look at /dev/sdb1
[20:57] <syborg> it says efi, but that is the fat16 esp partition
[20:57] <Two_Dogs> sla3k: home is a separate partition?
[20:57] <Cruk> syborg: it is 53 mb and not esp?!
[20:58] <tomreyn> Cruk: i needed to grow it to 55, and it's esp, yes
[20:58] <syborg> it is esp Cruk :-)
[20:58] <Cruk> ok ok thank you
[20:58] <Cruk> you have to forgive me for being a somewhat of an idiot
[20:58] <tomreyn> apparently there's some minimum size limit for esp "on my architecture", i wasn't aware of this.
[20:58] <sla3k> Two_Dogs: good question, let me have a look at fdisk -l
[20:58] <syborg> efi is the same thing. ESP is a feature of EFI systems so it is pretty common to exchange the terms
[20:59] <tomreyn> Cruk: this stuff is complicated, i don't blame anyone not getting it right.
[20:59] <syborg> and the fact that it is a FAT filesystem is implied by the fact that it is recognized as an efi partition
[20:59] <Cruk> thank you so much syborg you are amazing
[20:59] <syborg> nah I'm just a helpful nerd =P
[20:59] <sla3k> Two_Dogs: nope, all is under / which is 256 Gigs
[20:59] <Cruk> that make you amazing man :)
[20:59] <syborg> :)
[20:59] <Cruk> thank you folks
[21:00] <Two_Dogs> sla3k: that answers that, you know where space is hogged and can it be moved or deleted?
[21:01] <Eca_flipette> What is the subject about ?
[21:02] <Two_Dogs> Eca_flipette: linux
[21:02] <Cruk> btw on a totally urelated note, does anyone happen to know the default content of EFI folder of a windows EFI drive?
[21:02] <arooni> anyway to get ubuntu 16.04 app indicators in 18.04? gnome?
[21:02] <Edisto> Two_Dogs: no. I'm using ubuntu 18.04 just trying to change the mapping of middle click key to alt + left click. Since my pen doesn't have a middle key
[21:03] <Cruk> I asked on ##windows no one answered
[21:03] <Eca_flipette> I would say uncompiling would > assembler
[21:03] <sla3k> Two_Dogs: hmm, so I CAN increase the disk space on / as it is a LV right :/
[21:03] <syborg> no clue Cruk
[21:03] <Cruk> sorry on ##windows-please-register
[21:03] <syborg> windows is the devil
[21:03] <Eca_flipette> so tweaky to read this B per B
[21:03] <EriC^^> Cruk: http://termview.me/a32f/
[21:03] <tgm4883> Cruk: did you read the topic on that channel?
[21:04] <Cruk> syborg: well with specter and meltdown it seems our processing infrustructure is the devil itself, not microsoft or BSD or Linux!
[21:04] <syborg> intel is also the devil
[21:04] <EriC^^> Cruk: bootmgfw.efi.backup is the actual efi file, i have it switched with the ubuntu one
[21:04] <syborg> but windows is still the devil
[21:04] <Cruk> EriC^^: oh hi! :) you don't know how happy I am to see you again here.
[21:04] <EriC^^> what's up?
[21:05] <Cruk> same old same old
[21:05] <t3kg33k> Greetings all. Thought I would try here first before Handbrake IRC. Anyone have any experience converting .mov files recording from a Nikon DSLR with Handbrake? I have tried but the audio is not converting.
[21:05] <Cruk> syborg: and AMD or ARm are not evil?
[21:05] <Cruk> they are exploitable too
[21:06] <Two_Dogs> sla3k: i would think so, yes, but i would not want to own that opinion, i dont lvm, i would be doing the manual first
[21:06] <Cruk> EriC^^: how you been?
[21:06] <EriC^^> Cruk: great thanks
[21:06] <Two_Dogs> sla3k: this is a good time to move home to a separate partition also :)
[21:06] <syborg> AMD is less the devil Cruk
[21:06] <syborg> ARM I don't know enough about t osay
[21:06] <syborg> *to say
[21:06] <Cruk> sometimes you see and old nick and a lot of things happen in your brain in a split second. I don't know if people know what I mean!
[21:07] <syborg> AMD is less blatantly backdoored than intel
[21:07] <Cruk> EriC^^: Glad to hear it!
[21:07] <syborg> and have a lesser degree of vulnerability to the recent exploits you mentioned
[21:07] <sla3k> Two_Dogs: I know, this server is critical so I was hoping to not bring the services down. But I will surely try it on a separate piece of hardware with identical configuration to see if this would work, or not
[21:08] <tomreyn> can we move the cpu discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[21:08] <syborg> I'll just shut up tomreyn :-)
[21:08] <tomreyn> as you prefer ;)
[21:08] <Cruk> tomreyn: my fault terribly sorry
[21:09] <tomreyn> no animals were harmed.
[21:09] <Two_Dogs> sla3k: do you know which files/folders are the hogs?
[21:09] <Cruk> EriC^^: thank you for http://termview.me/a32f/
[21:09] <EriC^^> no problem
[21:09] <sla3k> Two_Dogs: indeed, it's the SVN
[21:10] <Two_Dogs> ahh
[21:11] <Two_Dogs> cpu chat bad, endless uefi chat good?
[21:11] <Two_Dogs> xplain that one
[21:11] <syborg> well the EFI chat was related to setting up ubuntu
[21:11] <syborg> the CPU chat was neither here nor there
[21:14] <syborg> Two_Dogs, but you could always ask for help with your CPU and then we can talk about them again ;)
[21:14] <Eca_flipette> Is Apple Watch compatible with Android ?
[21:14] <Eca_flipette> Linux core ? x'D
[21:14] <Eca_flipette> plop
[21:15] <Two_Dogs> syborg: i intel and you know what they say about intel, like hp laser/deskjet it just works on linux
[21:18] <syborg> t3kg33k, are you married to handbrake? I am pretty sure you can transcode media with vlc. Never used handbrake before.
[21:19] <hggdh> Eca_flipette: as far as I could find out, Apple watch is compatible with Apple. And that's it.
[21:19] <syborg> married in a figurative sense btw ;_
[21:19] <syborg> ;)
[21:19] <Eca_flipette> erf
[21:20] <Two_Dogs> syborg: i take that back, i got betsy-server on ubuntu-16.04-32bit now running now 24/7 365 days a year for aprox 8 years on an amd cpu, i have not been able to blame any system issue on amd, ever, that was ubuntish yes?
[21:20] <syborg> there was some 'buntu in there
[21:22] <Two_Dogs> theres alot of buntu actually, i forget betsy-ubuntu is there churning on the lan and if betsy went down it would be painful
[21:22] <t3kg33k> syborg, I've always used Handbrake. I've never had a problem before now. But this is the first time converting a Nikon video too
[21:22] <fcastillo> Hi everybody. I'm having trouble starting `synaptic-pkexec`. It's just stuck, no error message/warning. I've run it from the terminal and don't get anything. I feel that I'm might be missing some package or something. I have no trouble starting it by running `sudo synaptic`
[21:23] <fcastillo> forgot to mention I'm using Ubuntu 18.04
[21:23] <t3kg33k> I'm using Ubuntu Mate and just found out their Handbrake install is broken. I had to remove it and install the version from the official ppa. It's working now
[21:25] <Wafficus91> hello, I have a question about moving a file to my rules.d folder. My laptop running Lubuntu is not letting me move a rules file into the etc/udev/rules.d folder even though I'm the administrator. How do I get around this?
[21:25] <Two_Dogs> t3kg33k: ubuntu-mate has a specific handbrake app? or you installed handbrake from a ubuntu repo?
[21:25] <sere_> fcastillo, use pkexec synaptic
[21:25] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: what's the error it's giving?
[21:26] <Wafficus91> one sec
[21:26] <Wafficus91> its so I can use my Novation Ultranova as a MIDI keyboard with JACK and later with LMSS
[21:26] <syborg> he gone Two_Dogs
[21:26] <Wafficus91> one sec, getting error
[21:26] <syborg> probably the latter though
[21:26] <Two_Dogs> syborg: i cant tell who comes and goes
[21:26] <fcastillo> sere_: that worked!!! I don't know why the default exec on the .desktop for synaptic is `synaptic-pkexec` rather than the command you gave me.
[21:26] <syborg> no join/quit messages enables?
[21:26] <Two_Dogs> syborg: yeah, latter
[21:26] <syborg> *enabled
[21:26] <Two_Dogs> syborg: no, i find them messy
[21:27] <sere_> fcastillo, awesome :).. i had the same issue hah
[21:27] <Wafficus91> Error: 92-novation.rules: Error opening file “/etc/udev/rules.d/92-novation.rules”: Permission denied
[21:28] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: what command are you running?
[21:28] <fcastillo> sere_: I do remember it working right after a fresh install of Ubuntu, but at some point it stopped working. Well, it was sporadic, but now it never works. Thanks so much for the help!
[21:28] <Wafficus91> just a simple copy and paste
[21:28] <Wafficus91> I tried reading into how to do this kind of idea with root access I guess
[21:28] <Wafficus91> not quite that Terminal savvy with copy and paste ideas
[21:29] <Two_Dogs> Wafficus91: copy paste via gui file-manager or terminal in user mode?
[21:29] <Wafficus91> via gui file manager
[21:29] <Wafficus91> not through terminal
[21:29] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: try using "sudo -H xdg-open /etc"
[21:30] <Wafficus91> will do
[21:30] <sere_> fcastillo, your welcome.. i could be wrong but i think its because they did away with gksu and replaced it w pkexec bad sym link
[21:30] <Two_Dogs> Wafficus91: sounds like you need f-m in admin mode, if all else fails> gksudo nautilus ## assuming you are on gnome-shell
[21:30] <Wafficus91> tried that one eric and received this error:
[21:31] <Wafficus91> Oops! Something went wrong. Unable to create a required folder. Please create the following folder, or set permissions such that it can be created: /root/.config/nautilus
[21:31] <Wafficus91> i'm using lubuntu with LXTerminal
[21:31] <sere_> Wafficus91, pkexec nautilus --no-desktop
[21:31] <Two_Dogs> Wafficus91: lubuntu uses which file manager?
[21:32] <Wafficus91> it has nautilus
[21:32] <Wafficus91> so nautilus opened
[21:32] <Wafficus91> with that command that eric gave me
[21:32] <Wafficus91> but it gave me that error
[21:32] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: do you have gksu installed?
[21:32] <Wafficus91> its weird because I thought Administrators would have root access anyway
[21:32] <Wafficus91> no not yet
[21:32] <Wafficus91> what's the install command for that/
[21:32] <fcastillo> sere_: this is very very strange... I just checked the contents of synaptic-pkexec and it says: pkexec "/usr/sbin/synaptic" "$@", so technically it should work but it doesn't
[21:32] <Wafficus91> sudo apt install gksu?
[21:32] <EriC^^> yesh
[21:32] <EriC^^> yes
[21:33] <sere_> Wafficus91, use pkexec
[21:33] <EriC^^> then run gksu nautilus
[21:33] <Two_Dogs> has gksudo been dropped from ubuntu 18.xx?
[21:33] <doug16k> Two_Dogs, you mean gksu right?
[21:33] <Two_Dogs> no
[21:33] <Two_Dogs> i mean gksudo
[21:34] <Wafficus91> I did it and got this error:
[21:34] <Wafficus91> n gksu nautilu
[21:34] <Wafficus91> Reading package lists... Done
[21:34] <Wafficus91> Building dependency tree
[21:34] <Wafficus91> Reading state information... Done
[21:34] <Wafficus91> Package gksu is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:34] <Wafficus91> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[21:34] <Wafficus91> is only available from another source
[21:34] <sere_> fcastillo, that is strang.. im getting the same thing but the command still works lol
[21:35] <fcastillo> sere_: so, once I run `pkexec synaptic` then the original `synaptic-pkexec` works again
[21:35] <genii> !pastebin | Wafficus91
[21:35] <fcastillo> sere_: this might be a bug related to pkexec. I'm going to try to find more info or even a bug report about it
[21:36] <genii> Wafficus91: Otherwise the bot will just keep silencing you, like now
[21:36] <Wafficus91> I received this error with pkexec:
[21:36] <Wafficus91> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5CXxJYMWS9/
[21:37] <Wafficus91> so pkexec and that didn't work unfortunately
[21:38] <Two_Dogs> doug16k: https://git.io/vhtFw i prefer the gksudo variant
[21:39] <doug16k> yeah I prefer sudo over su too... idk why I use gksu though :D
[21:39] <sere_> Wafficus91, check this out https://askubuntu.com/questions/156998/how-do-i-start-nautilus-as-root
[21:39] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: maybe try 'sudo mkdir /root/.config/' then sudo -H nautilus and see if it still complains
[21:39] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: you should install nautilus-admin That package will let you open a window from nautilus with root privilages
[21:40] <Two_Dogs> pkexec <-- that app was in the news way back when about how when used with packagekit it would run without user being forced to enter password?
[21:40] <Two_Dogs> dont sudo graphics apps
[21:41] <Wafficus91> alright I installed nautilus-admin
[21:41] <Wafficus91> how do I use it in that case?
[21:41] <Wafficus91> I did sudo apt install nautilus-admin
[21:41] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: restart nautilus
[21:41] <Two_Dogs> Wafficus91: what fcastillo makes alot of sense, dolphin has that option, and makes admin tweaks painless
[21:41] <doug16k> Two_Dogs, ah, if I run gksu-properties it has an option to pick sudo or su and it is on sudo (by default probably). idk what the difference is then between gksudo and gksu
[21:42] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: then you'll see an option to open a folder as "Open as Administrator" and you're done
[21:42] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: if you don't know how to restart nautilus, just simply kill it: sudo killall nautilus
[21:42] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: and then open it again
[21:43] <Wafficus91> sick
[21:43] <Wafficus91> my dudes it pasted in
[21:43] <Wafficus91> appreciate it a ton
[21:43] <Wafficus91> Linux bros :)
[21:43] <Two_Dogs> doug16k: gksu =su , and gksudo = sudo, long ago i was taught to prefer sudo vs su where possible, something there about how variable innards are interpreted
[21:44] <oerheks> ls -la /etc/udev/rules.d/ # are they all root ?
[21:44] <dlam> my laptop fan keeps turning on and off, anyone know how to debug?
[21:44] <fcastillo> Wafficus91: glad I could help, I have to leave now, so hopefully somebody else can help if you need any more
[21:44] <doug16k> then why does gksu-properties have a UI to select either sudo or su? I think gksu by default uses sudo, because I didn't set that, never saw it before today
[21:44] <sere_> fcastillo, if you get the same problem after reboot.. your policykit might not be loaded if your on a minimal or something
[21:44] <EriC^^> dlam: is the temp increasing before they turn on?
[21:46] <Two_Dogs> doug16k: look at the man on the gist i shared with you, it says gksu is su, while gksudo is sudo, there is an inherent diff between the two
[21:46] <doug16k> Two_Dogs, from that man page: "Also notice that the library will decide if it should use su or  sudo as  backend using the /apps/gksu/sudo-mode gconf key, if you call the gksu command."
[21:46] <Wafficus91> hey weird question but any commands I do in the LXTerminal are "Bash" commands?
[21:46] <doug16k> both use sudo unless you change gksu to use su
[21:47] <doug16k> change the config*
[21:49] <Wafficus91> can someone help me with this installation process, here's the readme:
[21:49] <Wafficus91> ultranova4linux
[21:49] <Wafficus91> [21:49] <Wafficus91> Open Source Drivers for the Ultranova and Mininova Synthesizers'
[21:49] <Wafficus91> MIDI and control surface functionality (latter only for Ultranova).
[21:49] <Wafficus91> Please note that Mininova support is completely
[21:49] <dlam> EriC^^:  nope my computer is somewhat idle, though Xorg is going at like 3%
[21:50] <EriC^^> dlam: did you try any acpi_osi grub stuff?
[21:50] <Wafficus91> whoops sorry
[21:50] <Wafficus91> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FgCWw8dJSQ/
[21:50] <Wafficus91> that's what I meant to paste, sorry again
[21:51] <Wafficus91> can someone help me with that install readme? I made the file in that rules.d folder, but am not sure what they mean by bash commands
[21:51] <Wafficus91> like are those terminal commands I have to enter using those files?
[21:52] <Wafficus91> this is the GIT page for it: https://github.com/hansfbaier/ultranova4linux
[21:52] <Two_Dogs> https://goo.gl/e6XdA4 doug16k , oddly on plasma i kdesu cause its shorter and i am lazy
[21:53] <doug16k> Wafficus91, bash is a scripting language. yes, your shell is probably bash, unless you changed it. #bash
[21:54] <Two_Dogs> doug16k: i dont understand gtk/gnome system core so i use what seems the most secure 'root' admin tweaking
[21:54] <oerheks> Wafficus91, and is the user in the audio group ? terminal: groups # would list the groups of that user
[21:54] <Wafficus91> groups: adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[21:54] <Wafficus91> looks like i'm not
[21:55] <Wafficus91> but I guess I can add this via "Users" right?
[21:55] <Eca_flipette> re
[21:55] <oerheks> adduser yourname audio
[21:55] <oerheks> groups yourname
[21:55] <Wafficus91> it says only root may add a user or group to the system
[21:56] <doug16k> don't you mean usermod -G audio yourname
[21:57] <doug16k> then su yourname
[21:57] <EriC^^> you're missing the -aG there
[21:57] <EriC^^> Wafficus91: use sudo with oerheks ' command then logout and back in for it to take effect
[21:57] <nacc> doug16k: `adduser USER GROUP` can be used too
[21:58] <doug16k> or make it take effect immediately just in that terminal with su yourname
[21:58] <Wafficus91> oh
[21:58] <Wafficus91> yeah
[21:58] <Wafficus91> I'm a member of that group
[21:58] <dlam> EriC^^:  no idea what "acpi_osi grub stuff" means :D
[21:58] <sere_> Wafficus91, did you follow the readme and create the permission rules fuke
[21:58] <nacc> Wafficus91: did you just make youself a member of the group?
[21:58] <sere_> file*
[21:58] <Wafficus91> so in that case, what do I have to do? I'm confused with just that readme, since as the end user, I have the directory of files, but it didn't say to install it anywhere or anything
[21:59] <Wafficus91> yeah I did
[21:59] <Wafficus91> *I made myself a user of the group
[21:59] <sere_> Wafficus91, sudo touch /etc/udev/rules.d/92-novation.rules
[21:59] <EriC^^> dlam: try 'sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep Windows' in a terminal and get the newest entry
[21:59] <sere_> Wafficus91, then edit with sudo EDITOR /etc/udev/rules.d/92-novation.rules
[21:59] <vy> tomreyn: I have just installed "alternative" ISO and the system is ridiculously slow, installing "aptitude" still did not finish after 10 minutes. Google'ing pointed me similar, but old complaints. Do you have any experience?
[21:59] <nacc> Wafficus91: you either need to logout and login; or start a new login shell in order for it to take effect
[22:01] <Wafficus91> yeah I was able to copy and paste those rules file
[22:01] <doug16k> vy, if you are using a local mirror, it might be really slow. it is for canadian mirrors. when I switched to the main mirrors it sped right up
[22:01] <Wafficus91> basically that bash command exists in that rules file
[22:01] <Wafficus91> and its present in rules.d
[22:01] <Wafficus91> so at that point, is it a matter of creating some directory for the driver?
[22:01] <vy> doug16k: Nope. Download finished in a snap, unpacking is still in progress...
[22:02] <Wafficus91> I just hate how it leaves you off to just run that novation command, but that's not even present in the directory at all. I'm not sure if this should be created with that makefile thing either that's present in the directory
[22:02] <u0_a37> hello
[22:02] <nacc> Wafficus91: uh, well, clearly you should run `make`
[22:02] <Two_Dogs> vy: copy/paste & execute via terminal> journalctl -b --pri=3 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[22:02] <nacc> Wafficus91: sorry, but I mean something like this does assume some basic knowledge, or ability to look around in the source repo
[22:03] <Wafficus91> gotcha I'm such a Windows based newbie to linux
[22:03] <nacc> Wafficus91: also, did you install and setup jack?
[22:03] <Wafficus91> so I"m totally used to just running a dang exe
[22:03] <Wafficus91> i have jack installed yes
[22:03] <Wafficus91> and its on
[22:03] <Wafficus91> so change the directory to that folder
[22:03] <Wafficus91> and run the make file right?
[22:04] <nacc> Wafficus91: run `make`. You don't run the Makefile
[22:04] <Wulf> Hello
[22:04] <nacc> Wafficus91: you will need the build dependencies, like pkg-config and g++
[22:05] <Wulf> Could someone please explain to me (in other words than in the ticket) why https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1773087 was closed?
[22:05] <Wafficus91> about to post the ASCII for shrug face lol
[22:05] <vy> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/de2yp
[22:05] <Wafficus91> I have no idea in that case
[22:06] <Two_Dogs> vy: copy/paste & execute via terminal> tail /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[22:06] <nacc> Wulf: well, the package ships a apport hook, and that hook would not work if python3-apport was not installed.
[22:06] <Wafficus91> is there any easy beginner guide to doing that kind of thing?
[22:06] <nacc> So it's a dependency of a file the package now ships
[22:06] <Wafficus91> I ask because I have no idea what I'm doing
[22:07] <Wulf> nacc: which one, xserver-xorg?
[22:07] <nacc> Wulf: yes, per the changelog
[22:07] <nacc> Wulf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1730035
[22:09] <Wulf> nacc: thanks, didn't see that
[22:11] <vy> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/zgsf
[22:14] <nacc> Wulf: yw
[22:14] <Two_Dogs> vy: i did not see aptitude installing
[22:14] <Wulf> so some apport hooks were added to the xserver-xorg package and those hooks need the python lib. Might have been better to add an apport-xorg package or sth?
[22:14] <Two_Dogs> vy: already done?
[22:15] <nacc> Wulf: which xserver-xorg depends on? no difference
[22:15] <Wulf> nacc: could be made Recommended
[22:15] <Wulf> stuff works perfectly fine without apport
[22:16] <nacc> except for crash collection
[22:16] <nacc> e.g. ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg fails
[22:16] <vy> Two_Dogs: Oops! Sorry... My bad... (I needed to install Ubuntu Server twice since the default CD did not have disk encryption in installer.) But anyway... Indeed, aptitude is installed. Right now it is "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" that is running. And it is still taking ages! I mean... ages! This had finished in <1m on the same hardware 1 hour ago without encryption.
[22:17] <nacc> so please stop arguing about this. you may not like it, but apport is considered key ubuntu functionality
[22:18] <Two_Dogs> vy: an upgrade can take a while especially on a low bandwidth connection
[22:19] <vy> Two_Dogs: I have a fiber connection, network is definitely not the problem. It is "unpacking" that is taking ages.
[22:19] <Two_Dogs> vy: unpacking into something associated with the last line of the journalctl dump?
[22:21] <Two_Dogs> vy: copy/paste & execute via terminal> inxi -Srtcm10 -c0 | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[22:22] <vy> Two_Dogs: inxi is missing. I first need to install that. But upgrade needs to finish first... :S Any other tricks in the meantime?
[22:23] <Two_Dogs> vy: if unpacking is hogging cpu cycles i would wonder where how that slows the sausage making
[22:24] <Two_Dogs> vy: or what is getting in way of the unpacking
[22:24] <Two_Dogs> vy: copy/paste & execute via terminal> pstree -nsupa | nc termbin.com 9999 ## share link output here
[22:25] <Two_Dogs> vy: now looking for anything other than dpkg/apt that would slow progress
[22:26] <Two_Dogs> vy: dont share anything seemingly personal, there are new laws and i am not a lawyer :)
[22:28] <nacc> just look in `top` and see if you are cpu bound
[22:29] <NinjaKirby> Hey guys, this is a longshot but the most recent Ubuntu v16.04.4 updates has disturbed the multi-monitor setup of my brothers PC. 2 Monitors, VGA+HDMI, when the mouse moves across onto the HDMI screen it can't move back to the VGA display. Is this a "new thing"?
[22:29] <vy> Two_Dogs: http://termbin.com/ci8v
[22:30] <nacc> NinjaKirby: is the HDMI screen larger than the VGA? did you make sure you were trying to transition along the actual shared edge?
[22:31] <vy> Two_Dogs: I will tell you something that might annoy you... I think the problem is solved... I am not hearing any more sounds from the disk and "vim /etc/default/keyboard" which used to take >10s to open now appears in a blink.
[22:31] <vy> Two_Dogs: Could it be related with the fact that I have just installed the system and LVM was performing some initial background job?
[22:32] <Two_Dogs> vy: why would i get annoyed? solved/fixed is good
[22:32] <nacc> vy: were you doing full disk encryption?
[22:32] <nacc> vy: or LUKS over RAID, or something
[22:32] <vy> nacc: full disk encryption
[22:32] <NinjaKirby> nacc: The HDMI does have a higher resolution output. I'm unfortunately about 7000 miles away from the affected PC, but my brother is familiar with the 'multi-desktop way', he will be pushing against the edges to try and move between.
[22:33] <nacc> NinjaKirby: ok, I noticed that changed in 18.04 for me (it used to be your mouse could end up in the 'undrawn' space that was not visible in the smaller monitor, but that doens't seem to happen anymore
[22:34] <Two_Dogs> vy: from the look of pstree the heavy load all looked related to update-initramf,5515 /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -c -t -k 4.15.0-22-generic ... if i had to guess
[22:34] <nacc> vy: ok
[22:35] <vy> Two_Dogs: Anyway... I am glad my disk started to perform faster than my typing. Thanks so much for your kind help.
[22:36] <Two_Dogs> vy: does the full crypto disk usually cause that big a drag on system performance?
[22:37] <Two_Dogs> i dont crypto disk, but btrfs sort of acted sluggish that way
[22:37] <Two_Dogs> especially on system upgrades
[22:38] <vy> Two_Dogs: This is the first time I am using full disk encryption as well, so have no clue. (I quit using ecryptfs on my dev laptop due to non-sense filename length limitations.)
[22:40] <m27> Question: when I log into a remote server, is a there a way to identify myself as a superuser, without typing in the password?
[22:40] <m27> (I always have to lookup the password of the user account in my password manager)
[22:41] <rootd00d> ah. so confusing. syslog seems to be writing to a rotated auth.log.1 instead of auth.log
[22:41] <Two_Dogs> m27: you could used shared keys method rather than pass
[22:41] <rootd00d> anyone ever experience that? i'm seeing a lot of similar things online, but... this seems crazy.
[22:42] <rootd00d> we have fail2ban monitoring /var/log/auth.log, but once it gets rotated, syslog isn't writing to auth.log anymore.
[22:42] <rootd00d> it's writing to auth.log.1....
[22:44] <NinjaKirby> naac: Thanks for your support, I'll battle with it tomorrow when I have more time, good night.
[22:45] <m27> Two_Dogs, i already use keys to login the box. But when i type "sudo", i need the password.
[22:45] <nacc> m27: you definitely want to require a pssword for sudo
[22:46] <nacc> m27: i'm not sure what you're suggesting, but mkaing sudo passwordless on a system that's accessible over the network is a 'bad idea' (TM)
[22:46] <m27> okay
[22:46] <vy> With full disk encryption, now I have another problem... There is no keyboard/monitor placed close to my home server rack. How will I pass the decryption prompt at startup when I power it on in the rack?
[22:47] <m27> nacc, you see it as a secondline of defense
[22:47] <m27> you'd need the key, and the password to really break into the system
[22:47] <m27> thanks for the feedback
[22:48] <nacc> m27: having ssh access to your system only exposes your user's data
[22:48] <nacc> m27: exposing *root* to anyone that shouldn't have it exposes your entire system
[23:03] <Frustrated> Hey everyone, I have a question. I have a number of .exe windows games I run in wine. Since I have th wine compatibility layer installed, typically all I have to do is make sure they are marked as running as a program in properties & then double click. However some of them are Japanese & for some reason those wont run
[23:04] <Frustrated> My theory is I need to install japanese wine scripts, but I can't find jack on ow to do that online
[23:04] <Frustrated> can anyone help here?
[23:04] <Frustrated> I know in Windows you have to change your localle, how do you do the equivalent in Ubuntu?
[23:05] <oerheks> you better reask in wineHQ
[23:05] <oerheks> !wine
[23:05] <Frustrated> -_- so turfed to another chat.... great
[23:05] <Frustrated> Thanks
[23:07] <Two_Dogs> Frustrated: the issue exist on the wine layer dont it?
[23:07] <genii> Two_Dogs: Left already
[23:08] <Two_Dogs> genii: ohh, thnks :)
[23:08] <genii> ..but that theory is more credible than their current working theory
[23:09] <oerheks> sudo apt install sake # japanese wine
[23:09] <Two_Dogs> and seems hackish too, i got to fake being in japan to play a game, how?
[23:09] <Two_Dogs> rhetorical ^^
[23:09] <oerheks> i think you can set your locale in the wine starter, like windows version
[23:10] <oerheks> #winehq is tha place to be
[23:10] <Two_Dogs> i am on it, i want urdo wine
[23:13] <Helpnneded> hi
[23:13] <Helpnneded> my bootloader has gone weird and am trying to fix from a live usb
[23:13] <Helpnneded> any help?
[23:13] <oerheks> did you see the wiki ?
[23:14] <oerheks> !grub
[23:14] <Helpnneded> my bootloader is in /dev/sdc1
[23:14] <Helpnneded> cant install grub though
[23:14] <Helpnneded> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `aufs'.
[23:15] <oerheks> so there is already a bootloader? or what is your situation
[23:15] <Helpnneded> there is a bootloader
[23:15] <Helpnneded> but it cant find hd1
[23:15] <Helpnneded> out of something and i end up in grub rescue
[23:16] <Helpnneded> grub rescue is a pita
[23:16] <Helpnneded> no help there
[23:16] <Helpnneded> all ls ended up with ext2 fs
[23:16] <Helpnneded> no way to fix this that way
[23:16] <Helpnneded> not enough info from grun rescue
[23:17] <Helpnneded> so i ended up in live usb way
[23:17] <Helpnneded> and here i am
[23:19] <oerheks> if that bootloader is grub and belongs to ubuntu, you could Install and run Boot-Repair
[23:19] <Helpnneded> yes it is
[23:19] <Helpnneded> so i run boot-repair on live ubuntu?
[23:20] <oerheks> yes, see #2 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[23:20] <Helpnneded> ah excellent
[23:20] <Helpnneded> ty
[23:21] <swift110> hey all
[23:24] <optonox> I think something got borked with my upgrade to 18.04 and nVidia and now I can not get to my desktop. Does anyone have any experience with this?
[23:24] <optonox> I formatted a SO question here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1040434/no-desktop-after-upgrade-to-18-04-cannot-remove-plymouth-only-see-blocks-mes
[23:25] <Two_Dogs> optonox: can you get to a tty? ctrl-alt-f2 work?
[23:27] <optonox> Two_Dogs: I can get to a root command prompt by going to recovery mode
[23:28] <optonox> Two_Dogs: I have not tried ctrl-alt-f2 from that blocks screen.
[23:28] <Two_Dogs> optonox: if you think nvidia is the issue, you could purge nvidia from recovery, know how to?
[23:29] <Helpnneded> excellent tool ty oerheks
[23:29] <optonox> Two_Dogs: I tried `apt purge nvidia` from the root command prompt and it just gets stuck at 33% or something.  It can remove "plymouth"
[23:30] <Two_Dogs> optonox: try this one> sudo aptitude purge ~nnvidia
[23:30] <Two_Dogs> optonox: exactly as shown
[23:33] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs: From this blocks screen it doesn't look like I can open a terminal
[23:33] <Two_Dogs> optonox: and assuming plymouth runs as service> systemctl disable plymouth* ## you dont have crypto drive/partitions do you? should work from recovery
[23:33] <Optonox2> I am trying Ctrl-alt-shift-t
[23:34] <Two_Dogs> optonox: no, ctrl-alt-f2
[23:34] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs: that doesn't work either
[23:34] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: from recovery do you get a tty?
[23:35] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  I do have a Windows partition but am now going to try your command from recovery
[23:35] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  Yes I can get to a "root she'll prompt"
[23:35] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: ok, you rebooted just now?
[23:36] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  Yea
[23:36] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: try: aptitude purge ~nnvidia
[23:36] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  I get "aptitude: command not found"
[23:37] <Two_Dogs> ok
[23:37] <Optonox2> Maybe just apt?
[23:37] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: try: apt purge nvidia*
[23:38] <Two_Dogs> i am not all that clued into 'apt'
[23:39] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  First thing it says is : dpkg was interrupted....etc etc so I have to reconfigure this
[23:39] <Optonox2> Idk what this step does
[23:39] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: ok, you must have killed dpkg midstream prior to this
[23:40] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  Anyway, every time I try this purge step it just gets stuck At : Removing Plymouth. Update-in
[23:40] <Optonox2> Initramfs: deferring update
[23:41] <Optonox2> (Trigger activated)
[23:41] <Optonox2> And then nothing happens
[23:42] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: the error msg includes instructions for dpkg reconfigure?
[23:42] <Optonox2> There must be someway to either forcibly remove Plymouth or to reinstall Gdm or somethings
[23:43] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: what shows if you: systemctl disable plymouth*
[23:43] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  Oh wait a sec. The progress meter just moved from 1%-81%. Maybe I just need to wait it our
[23:44] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: progress for what execute?
[23:45] <Optonox2> Two_Dogs:  the purge nvidia command.   It just completed. If this wor
[23:45] <Optonox2> so what should I reinstall now?
[23:45] <Two_Dogs> purge completed error free?
[23:45] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: ^^
[23:46] <Optonox2> Yes, it looks like there are. Few warnings but no errors
[23:46] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: dont re-install a thing, reboot
[23:46] <Optonox2> So what should I reinstall now?
[23:46] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: dont re-install a thing, reboot
[23:46] <Optonox2> Ok
[23:46] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: you should default to nouveau/intel
[23:47] <Optonox2> BAM
[23:47] <Two_Dogs> bam good?
[23:47] <Optonox2> Got my mutha f*^*ng desktop back
[23:47] <Two_Dogs> cool :)
[23:48] <bobdobbs> Two_Dogs: what is nouveau? Is it the ubuntu community created drivers for nvidia?
[23:48] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: nouveau is the opensource driver for nvidia-chip/card
[23:49] <bobdobbs> thank
[23:49] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Thanks for the help.  Sorry I had to type on my iPad so it was slow
[23:49] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: :)
[23:49] <bobdobbs> I'm wondering if uninstalling the nvidia driver and installling nouveau might help me with my issue: constantly freezing video display
[23:50] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: its all good, i ipad into linux myself
[23:50] <Two_Dogs> bobdobbs: purging nvidia should default back to intel/nouveau
[23:50] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: This has always confused me.  I do graphics work so I *need* the nvidia drivers, but IDK how I even see my desktop if I just uninstalled them all
[23:51] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: install 'inxi' now then run 'inxi -Gxx'
[23:51] <optonox3> What is that?
[23:52] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: you uninstalled the nvidia official non free driver, linux does not depend on the 'nvidia driver'
[23:52] <IonTau> hey everyone
[23:52] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: inxi is the swiss-knife of linux sysinfo
[23:53] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Okay I am installing now
[23:53] <IonTau> are people having any issues with 18.04 and high CPU use with xorg?
[23:54] <IonTau> I've been able to run an earlier kernel from 16.04 and things are behaving fine.
[23:54] <Two_Dogs> Optonox2: once ran> inxi -Gxx ## look at Driver: <-- see what?
[23:56] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GK107GLM [Quadro K2000M] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0ffb            Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting)            Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>          OpenGL: renderer: NVE7 version: 4.3 Mesa 18.0.0-rc5 (compat-v: 3.0) Direct Render: Yes
[23:56] <optonox3> I get a lot of cool output from that
[23:56] <Two_Dogs> optonox3: i did not expect to see nvidia as driver
[23:56] <lapaga> IonTau, on mine it is using between 0% and 2% with chrome and irc open
[23:57] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Yeah it is strange.  I think I might now try to reinstall the nvidia binary driver
[23:57] <Two_Dogs> optonox3 this is my dump of inxi -Gxx, https://git.io/vhqvl
[23:58] <Two_Dogs> optonox3: according to inxi nvidia is active now
[23:58] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: How did you get wayland? I want that too
[23:58] <optonox3> Two_Dogs: Do you have an nvidia graphics card?
[23:58] <Two_Dogs> optonox3: wayland is an option on plasma
[23:59] <bobdobbs> Two_Dogs: The command 'apt purge nvidia-*' returns successfully. If I reboot now should I expect a working video display?
[23:59] <bobdobbs> (all things being equal, of course. I know you can't anticipate every possible roadbump)
[23:59] <Sander_home> How come the extra keys on the Ubuntu touch phone keyboard is jumping up and down?