[18:32] <clutch> is it possible to just dist-upgrad to the Lucid RC?  I have a customized fluxbox ubuntu from scratch and reinstalling completely will be a long and arduous process
[18:32] <delac> kaf: for file transfers, nautilus might be more user friendly. write in the address field : ssh://username@ipaddress
[18:32] <erkan^> how install I java on ubuntu 10.04 ? sun-java (not openjre or..)
[18:32] <kaf> ok thanks
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: sudo update-manager -d
[18:32] <clutch> erkan^: sun-java6-jdk
[18:32] <erUSUL> erkan^: #ubuntu+1
[18:32] <clutch> ActionParsnip: will apt-get dist-upgrade do the same thing?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Erkan^: #ubuntu+1 for lucid suppor
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> T
[18:32] <erkan^> ok
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: no
[18:33] <clutch> ah
[18:33] <clutch> ok
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: dist upgrade updates different bit of the same release afaik
[18:33] <raygn> erUSUL: Mercurial is a client and git is a client, subversion is the server piece
[18:34] <Younder> raygn, that is nonsense
[18:34] <erUSUL> raygn: no; git and mercurial both act as client and server they are distributed. the one that has a cleint server model is subversion
[18:35] <erUSUL> raygn: git and hg are a lot like p2p (bittorrent)
[18:35] <Younder> raygn, they are all different version control systems. There is no central server for git . It is a distributed version control system.
[18:35] <erUSUL> raygn: in the network model
[18:35] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: brainstorm.ubuntu.com seems to be only about gui issues
[18:36] <xcillion> hi
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: its anything and all ideas :)
[18:36] <Scunizi> what directory do you list alias's for user defined bash commands?
[18:36] <far7an> فيه احد
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: put your ideas there and it may get implemented
[18:36] <cage_raphel> llutz, after adding it to the sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst .. i am not able to enter my grub menu at all..
[18:36] <erUSUL> raygn: http://progit.org/book/
[18:36] <raygn> erUSUL: ok that makes since, the git I have is a plugin for git connections then  After ready the comparison, I am uncertain which is better to use out of the 3
[18:36] <xcillion> u can fix grub
[18:37] <xcillion> get da live cd
[18:37] <llutz> cage_raphel: your grub-installation seems to be somehow broken
[18:37] <far7an> any one can help me By telling .. How to change login window pic
[18:37] <cage_raphel> llutz, is it possible to rebuild it ?
[18:37] <Pici> Scunizi: What do you mean by directory? Are you looking to add an alias or just list them?
[18:37] <xcillion> can anyone explain me CHNTPW?
[18:37] <Scunizi> Pici: add.. I want to add a mount command for a samba share and use an alias to activate it.
[18:38] <Pici> Scunizi: put it in your .bashrc then
[18:38] <Scunizi> Pici: ah thank you.. I had forgotten what the file name was.. I'd add it to fstab but can't figure that one out.
[18:39] <llutz> cage_raphel: ask the grub-guys why your grub2 uses a menu.lst, maybe they will have some ideas how to fix
[18:39] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output:
[18:39] <raygn> erUSUL: the clients cannot be interchanged to the server piece right, if I use say subversion, one developer cannot use git to sync files
[18:39] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/aNxQP8tp
[18:39] <cage_raphel> ok llutz
[18:40] <hal> I am going mad here - when you configure ubuntu wireless using the network manager gui, where is the configuration stored?
[18:40] <Tophu> is there anyone available that could assist me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen  walkthrough for setting up the touchscreen on my hp touchsmart tx2 in lucid?
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:41] <Scunizi> Pici: actually looking at bashrc it says I can add to .bash_aliases (which I did in the past to do a full sys. update,upgrade,dist-upgrade with "sysupdate")
[18:42] <xpike> hey everyone, I am having some trouble trying to mount a laptop harddrive on my desktop using ubuntu linux
[18:42] <xpike> can anyone lead me to a tutorial site?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: is the partion not under the places menu?
[18:42] <LzrdKing> ActionParsnip: iu dunno, how it is innovative to bring up a network interface during boot, then mount network shares?  its really just common sense; it doesn;t seem like the sort of idea that's on the site
[18:43] <xpike> When I plug in the internal harddrive to the USB adapter nothing shows up
[18:43] <xpike> even on my windows partition
[18:43] <hal> does anyone know where the wpa config is kept, once you configure it using the network applet?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: if you run: sudo parted -l ,do you see the usb partition?
[18:43] <clutch> xpike: Probably need to mount it in ubuntu.  sudo fdisk -l, then sudo mount /xxx/xxx /mnt/whatever
[18:43] <xpike> ok hold on I will try it now
[18:43] <clutch> fdisk -l will show you all the drives, you'll have to pick out the one you want
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Lzrdking: add a script to your startup items to run: sleep 60; mount -a
[18:44] <soreau> hal: my guess would be, buried somewhere in and encrypted file. What are you trying to do exactly?
[18:44] <clutch> I suggest mounting it to a directory in /media/ if you're going to keep it mounted there all the time though
[18:44] <clutch> and add the drive to your fstab or whathaveyou
[18:45] <Tophu> has anyone here purcahsed the official ubuntu support before? is it good? will they help a noob like me with a few things?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Clutch: you add partitions to fstab, not drives
[18:45] <xpike> Yea well I see my windows partition, my swap partition, my root partition and linux partition
[18:45] <lazarus_> hey i wish to have my friend who is on win 7 connect to my ubuntu pc
[18:45] <hal> soreau: there are no encryption options in the applet - so I cannot configure aes or TKIP
[18:45] <clutch> ActionParsnip: oh yeah, good point.  My mistake
[18:45] <glassresistor> so im having some issues with trying to run multiple flash plugins for firefox
[18:45] <glassresistor> i have flashplayer-nonfree installed but i also want to have v9 and the 64-bit beta
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: ok try opening nautilus, is the partition shown there?
[18:46] <clutch> I just have one big drive witha  bunch of partitions, sometimes I forget that its not 4 seperate drives
[18:46] <Scunizi> glassresistor: only one at a time
[18:46] <soreau> hal: I believe if you select wpa/wpa2, you don't need to worry about aes or tkip. Only have to configure that router side
[18:46] <glassresistor> when i copy them in to /usr/lib/mozzila/plugins they don't show up as options
[18:46] <lazarus_> any help
[18:46] <glassresistor> and when i delete all of them from the folder they all work
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: you can only have 1 plugin or they conflict and you get nothing
[18:46] <glassresistor> i mean flash still works
[18:47] <Scunizi> How do I reload bashrc?
[18:47] <llutz> Scunizi: . .bashrc
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: source $HOME/.bashrc
[18:47] <hal> soreau: it sees the router, but will not connect.  I have checked that it is b/g, using the correct WPA2 key, and IP addr details are correct.  do you know what else I can try?
[18:48] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip:  then how do i remove them
[18:48] <xpike> my windows partition is already mounted to the directory called "media" which is sda1
[18:48] <xpike> however I cannot find sda (#) of my connected drive
[18:48] <glassresistor> i just  removed --purged flashplugin-nonfree and installer
[18:48] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: thanks that worked.. and discovered an error I had in .bash_aliases
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: I suggest you remove the packages and just copy in the .so file for the adobe plugin for youe architecture from the tar.gz file. If you are using 32bit the flashplugin-nonfree package is all you need
[18:48] <paddy_> i get no sound when i play video files
[18:49] <clutch> xpike: if its correctly connected, it should show up in the output of fdisk -l if I'm not mistaken
[18:49] <glassresistor> i did remove them
[18:49] <zorzar> hey i'm running 9.04 and some weeks ago sound stopped working, its a lenovo x61t
[18:49] <kaf> Hi, I'm trying to build a package, but it failed, anyone could help me with this? -- Here's the output: http://pastebin.com/aNxQP8tp
[18:49] <glassresistor> but flash is still working
[18:49] <xpike> Maybe I didnt connect it right?
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: that will most likely by your linux partition
[18:49] <Tophu> are there any kind souls out there that can help walk a noob through a guide from the ubuntuforums?
[18:49] <xpike> I am using a USB adapter so I can attach internal SATA drives to a computer via USB
[18:49] <genii> glassresistor: The player will likely still be cached until you restart
[18:49] <ramvi> I've added a file to init.d and update-rc.d it to 2 3 4 5. I've chmod 777 it but it just won't start! No word about it in the logs. Why is that?
[18:49] <zorzar> Tophu: what's your problem?
[18:49] <xpike> it has its own power source aswell
[18:50] <dotnetted> hey all - is there a way to run windows that's on another partition within a virtual os manager on ubuntu
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: run: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[18:50] <paddy_> Tophu yo!
[18:50] <xpike> i feel the internal drive running
[18:50] <Scunizi> xpike: those typically take power.. is it plugged in?
[18:50] <clutch> xpike: can you just attach it right to an open SATA port inside the machine?
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: 777 is a REALLY bad idea
[18:50] <ramvi> ActionParsnip: 755 is the way to go?
[18:51] <xpike> I never thought of that
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: whatever it was originally is most likely ideal. 777 is massively unsecure and not advised
[18:51] <xpike> lemme try it
[18:51] <xpike> lol
[18:51] <xpike> I would have to turn the pc off right?
[18:51] <hal> does anyone else know where the wpa config is kept, once you configure it using the network applet?
[18:51] <ramvi> ActionParsnip: its my file so it didn't have any rights.. The other files in /etc/init.d is 777
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: if you run: mount ,does the partition show as mountes
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Mounted*
[18:52] <Scunizi> xpike: this is an external adaptor for the drive?  and has an external power source?  then no just plug it in
[18:52] <Scunizi> power xpike.. not the sata connector
[18:52] <xpike> yes its a external adapter for the drive, I can feel the drive vibrating as if it was on
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Ramvi: mine are mostly 755
[18:53] <xpike> sata gets connected to the adapter, power and data cable , and the other end goes into usb
[18:53] <Scunizi> ramvi: files in my /etc/init.d are 644
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> 6 sorry
[18:53] <xpike> and it has its own power source
[18:53] <Scunizi> ramvi: sorry.. 755
[18:53] <Tophu> @zorzar: just having a hard time walking through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1252492&highlight=10.04+touchscreen to set up my touchstcreen
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: ok if its not mounted you need to manually mount it
[18:53] <xpike> Someone told me to directly connect it to my PC
[18:53] <Tophu> I'm sure everything I could ever want to know is in that thread
[18:54] <Tophu> but I'm just having a hard time with it
[18:54] <Scunizi> ramvi: although some are 777 like hwclock -> /lib/init/upstart-job
[18:54] <xpike> all of the devices are in /dev right?
[18:54] <llutz> Scunizi: those are symlinks
[18:54] <Scunizi> ah
[18:54] <xpike> or do I use dmesg before and after I plug it in?
[18:55] <Scunizi> xpike: ok.. since I missed the first part.. you have a drive that you're trying to connect to your machine via a usb port and an external adaptor for interfacing sata drives with usb .. right?
[18:55] <glassresistor> well it stopped working but its not picking up the libflashplayer in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[18:55] <xpike> Correct
[18:55] <th1_> hi, how can I assign an extra mouse button to a keystroke? I have a mouse that generates Button 13/Button 14 events on a rocker and I want to map them to Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab
[18:56] <glassresistor> how do i get ff3 to know its there?
[18:56] <Scunizi> glassresistor: you running the 3.6.x version of FF - perhaps the daily build?
[18:56] <ManDay> Does anyone here use CINEPAINT?
[18:56] <glassresistor> 3.5.9
[18:56] <lazarus_> what is ubuntu's default remote destop port number?
[18:56] <subone> Is there any way to install Ubuntu onto its own partition from within Windows? My friends CD drive doesnt work and it wont boot from USB, but he is seriously addled with virii.
[18:57] <xpike> Yea I also noticed there are 2 LED lights the USB light is on but the SATA light is not on
[18:57] <Scunizi> ManDay: doesn't work on ubuntu because it uses gtk 1.X and ubuntu is beyond that.. cinepaint is trying to catch up but hasn't yet
[18:57] <xpike> on the adapter device
[18:57] <glassresistor> does this work for 64-bit / 32-bit people? http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/latest/demo-02.htm
[18:58] <xpike> this is what I have (similar to) : http://www.amazon.com/USB-2-0-SATA-5-25-Adapter/dp/B000J2GUS0
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[18:58] <xpike> not the same brand just the same type of device
[18:58] <Scunizi> xpike: should work unless there is an issue with the adaptor or drive.. I use mine all the time to connect drives in other peoples machines to my ubuntu laptop for data retrieval
[18:59] <ManDay> thanks Scunizi - thats good to know i would have tried to download and install it otherwise
[18:59] <Scunizi> xpike: there's two connectors that have to go to the drive.. one for power and the other for data
[18:59] <xpike> yep they are connected
[18:59] <xpike> Whoa
[18:59] <xpike> ok
[18:59] <xpike> I got something new
[18:59] <xpike> I reconnected the USB
[18:59] <Scunizi> ManDay: gimp work very well.. but isn't 16bit .. if you're doing HDR stuff or pano's check out "hugin"
[18:59] <FloodBot2> xpike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <glassresistor> is there another place plugins need to be registered?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: have you tried manually mounting it?
[19:00] <xpike> Sorry lol
[19:00] <xpike> Unable to mount the Volume "Recovery"
[19:00] <xpike> Unable to mount the volume "OS"
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> !mount | xpike
[19:00] <Scunizi> ManDay: also there's krita.. but it's a little different.. google it for what it does and if it's 16 bit or not.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: has the device been attatched to a windows pc?
[19:01] <ManDay> Scunizi, "hugin" never heard of that. I'll sure do. I've seen Krita on screenshots and I don't think I'll like it.
[19:01] <xpike> Yea I tried it on my windows partition
[19:01]  * LzrdKing mounts ubuntu
[19:01] <xpike> this is my aunts laptop harddrive, she eneds some data off of it after her laptop got messd up
[19:01] <xpike> needs*
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: did you use the saftely remove device function when you removed it?
[19:01] <Scunizi> ManDay: hugin is multi platform.. works *very* well for pano's ..
[19:01] <ManDay> Scunizi, hugin isnt really a full featured graphics program, is it?
[19:02] <ManDay> Yes I see, panos
[19:02] <xpike> Well on my windows partition when I connected it , nothing showed up
[19:02] <xpike> I didnt even hear the USB chime
[19:02] <xpike> running windows XP
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: sounds like you may need to use foremost on the raw drive to recover the data
[19:02] <xpike> But now i got these errors
[19:02] <xpike> from mounting this drive
[19:02] <Scunizi> ManDay: no.. designed for a specific task.  check it out at http://hugin.sourceforge.net/
[19:03] <xpike> Unable to mount the volume 'RECOVERY'. Unable to mount the volume 'OS'.
[19:03] <ManDay> Yes, I'm reading it, thanks.
[19:04] <xpike> It also says : /dev/sdf2 : operation not supported mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in Use
[19:04] <glassresistor> im installed flash allot of times b4 by copying the .so file and through apt-get
[19:04] <xpike> Do I have to unmount my normal windows partition to mount this drive?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: you can fsck the partitions too, it may fix them up, use fsck -a /dev/partition_name_here to possibly repair the data
[19:04] <xpike> Ubuntu cant mount more than one NTFS partition?
[19:05] <xpike> ok I'll try that
[19:05] <glassresistor> anyone know why even after restarting flash the new .so files added don't show up in my plugins tab
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: you can mount as many block devices as you wish
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: what browser are you using?
[19:06] <glassresistor> ff3.5.9
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: try putting the file in $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[19:06] <xpike> I see the partitions show up in /media/disk
[19:06] <xpike> but cant access em
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: unmount them and fsck them
[19:06] <Wolfgang> hello there
[19:06] <Wolfgang> hello there
[19:06] <acxty> Hi guys, do I need to install some extra package so I can use make depend?
[19:06] <Wolfgang> I have a question regarding 1cad
[19:07] <jtickle> hey everyone
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: remove it from the other folders
[19:07] <jtickle> so I just downloaded the 10.04 RC
[19:07] <jtickle> popped it in the drive
[19:07] <Pici> jtickle : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[19:07] <jtickle> oh okay, thanks Pici.
[19:07] <Wolfgang> I downloaded the demo version+a serial key from the nets, how do I insert the key to qcad demo to have it full?
[19:07] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: that folder doesn't exist
[19:07] <josvuk> hello, how to make the second display the maindisplay(with the App menue bar) in a dual head configuration?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: make it: mkdir $HOME/.mozilla/plugins
[19:08] <Wolfgang> anyone??
[19:08] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: what about /usr/shar/ubufox/plugins?  i just found that
[19:08] <overmind> !anyone | Wolfgang
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> Wolfgang: i'd contact the support for the product as you have paid for support
[19:09] <glassresistor> brb
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: not sure, I used to put it there when I used firefox
[19:09] <xpike> Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
[19:09] <kekko> ciao lista
[19:09] <Wolfgang> noops, I have the demo from the site+downloaded a serial key with emule...how to use the serial key to the demo version and make it permanent??
[19:09] <Wolfgang> do you know how?
[19:09] <xpike> I don't wanna mess anything up lol
[19:09] <Pici> !piracy | Wolfgang
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> Xpike: unmount it then
[19:10] <Wolfgang> jejejejejejejeje
[19:10] <rocket161> m
[19:10] <Wolfgang> is not pirated....
[19:10] <maco> Wolfgang: demo?  isnt what's in the repositories the full version?
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Wolfgang: go buy a key, the instructions will come with it, or you can call support
[19:10] <Arabus> Hey I am currently trying to run a Ubuntu 9.10 on an hp laptop - this laptop ahs a Atheros AR5001x+ Wireless Network Adapter. I did try to use the driver provided at the madwifi webpage and the wlan LED started blinking but so far he does not detect any wireless networks. Also the Networkmanager applet shows that the wireless network adapter is not managed. How Do I solve that?
[19:10] <Wolfgang> ok oko ok...
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> wolfgang: downloading a key from emule is blatant piracy and broadcasting such activities is particularly foolish
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: try the karmic backport modules
[19:12] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: meaning we should install the backport modules? Tried that, he does not detect the wifi card.
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: does: sudo iwlist scan ,show access points currently?
[19:13] <Arabus> ath0 no scan results
[19:13] <Arabus> I do use a wireless currently from my other laptop though
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: what driver does: sudo lshw -C network ,say it is using?
[19:14] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: driver=ath_pci that one?
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you may have to blacklist ath_pci and ath_usb I have the same chip using ath5k
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> Or however its spelled
[19:15] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: hmm ok that is in the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf ?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: sure, you'll need gksudo gedit ,to edit it
[19:16] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: k ill try
[19:16] <xpike> how does fsck work? it checks all partitions/drives? or only the partitions/drives specified?
[19:16] <Arabus> hmm there is also a blacklist-ath_pci.conf
[19:16] <Arabus> and a blacklist file
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: yeah the ath file sounds good
[19:17] <Arabus> ok.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you need to get the system to load the right driver by blacklisting the others
[19:17] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: hmm there is an entry "blacklist ath5k" do I have to remove that?
[19:18] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Ah sounds reasonable.
[19:18] <dotnetted> hey all - Twinkle (sip client) has no audio on Ubuntu 9.1 - what's the best way to debug this?
[19:18] <h00k> xpike: open up a terminal and type 'man fsck'
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: keep that commented with a # at the start of the line. Remove the # from the other lines
[19:19] <steam> hi folkz
[19:19] <xpike> so I would type fsck /dev/sdf2 ?
[19:19] <blocky> how would I find to display all the files ending in .cpp or .h?
[19:19] <dotnetted> and should the sound preferences app play and kind of sound when changing volumes?
[19:19] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: there were no other lines so i added "blacklist ath_pci" and "blacklist ath_usb"
[19:19] <rezzy> hey everyone, right my mates trying to send me webcam, but in amsn it aint working, neither in emesene can someone recomend a good video IM client please
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: sudo find . -iname "*.cpp"; sudo find . -iname "*.h"
[19:20] <blocky> can I grep the output of two commands at once?
[19:20] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Do I have to reboot now or is there a way to reload the drivers without a restart?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: good stuff, you can check they exist with: sudo modprobe then try to tab complete the module name
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: you can rmmod the modules loaded and modprobe what you need
[19:21] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: theres a ath9k, ath5k ath_pci
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok the remove the usb line from the blacklist file. I'd also blacklist ath9k just to cover all bases
[19:22] <blocky> okay I've got a file containing all the filenames, now how do I cat the contents of every file?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Blocky cat `cat fileyoumade`
[19:23] <Pirate> Heey, what is the command to change the root password?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: you may want to use: cat `cat fileyoumade` | less
[19:23] <sebsebseb> !noroot | Pirate
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> !noroot
[19:23] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: Ok I used rmmod to remove the ath_pci and modprobe to load ath5k
[19:23] <blocky> ActionParsnip thanks, is there any way to have two regexes in a single command in grep, as opposed to find?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: I think there's something like [.cpp|.h] not sure
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok try: sudo iwlist scan
[19:24] <Arabus> ActionParsnip: ok now ifconfig does no longer list any wireless devices
[19:25] <blocky> my ultimate goal is to count the number of comments and rank the files by how many lines contain //
[19:25] <Arabus> but now there is a different device from iwlist
[19:25] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: so its still not working
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Arabus: ok then your device definately uses ath_pci driver
[19:25] <Arabus> irda0 Interface doesn't support scanning
[19:25] <glassresistor> no matter where i put it
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: i'd ask in #bash
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> Blocky: those guys got mad skillz
[19:27] <xpike> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdf2
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Glassresistor: make sure you have no other flash packages installed at all, swfdec, gnash and flashplugin-* should not be around
[19:27] <glassresistor> ActionParsnip: they arnt
[19:29] <Arabus> hrmm
[19:31] <Dr_Alien> hi guys, ive been asking questions in ubuntu server but no one has responded.
[19:31] <Dr_Alien> any ideas on what i can do?
[19:31] <ACEP> SROY
[19:31] <ACEP> WAT
[19:31] <dotnetted> anyone have no-audio when using twinkle (sip client) ?
[19:31] <Trek> Dr_Alien: what questions about what?
[19:31] <AcePreshaw> ACEP: !caps
[19:31] <Trek> !caps | ACEP
[19:32] <AcePreshaw> fnax Trek
[19:33] <Trek> AcePreshaw, no problem
[19:33] <AcePreshaw> :)
[19:33] <System32> Hello Everyone ;)
[19:33] <steeleweb> looking for support on connecting by vpn to asa 5500
[19:34] <sowhat04> Hi! I have backup my Ubuntu with remastersys (latest version) . There was no problem on the process of backup. I burn a dvd the iso file (slowly) . I restart my computer and I mount this dvd on computer. It starts well but when i want to use it as live cd it gives this error: "cannot find ramdisk image /casper/initrtd.gz" . What is my problem here do you think ? Please help me. I have to backup my all system on a dvd.
[19:38] <sowhat04> I have backup my Ubuntu with remastersys (latest version) . There was no problem on the process of backup. I burn a dvd the iso file (slowly) . I restart my computer and I mount this dvd on computer. It starts well but when i want to use it as live cd it gives this error: "cannot find ramdisk image /casper/initrtd.gz" . What is my problem here do you think ? Please help me. I have to backup my all system on a dvd.
[19:39] <sowhat04> some people says that remastersys is not working on ubuntu 9.xxx+ is that true ?
[19:41] <sowhat04> or are there new softwares which are working fine with latest versions of Ubuntu ?
[19:41] <sowhat04> i mean backup softwares...
[19:41] <idleone_> !backup
[19:41] <paddy_> !sbackup
[19:41] <anvo> I just bought a NAS file server and a 1Terabyte HDD, but there is no disk in the web settings page... Anybody?
[19:44] <axe_ranger> so check it out the guys in backtrack say the broadcom bcm 4322 wont support injection so they dont support it in there os........ i dont care about injection i just need the wifi to work now i know you guys cant give me ant "how to" or "tech support" for this os for whatever law or moral system but if you could point me in a direction that can get my wifi running with or without injection that would be great
[19:44] <System32> Wich of you use BackTrack 4 Final ? :-P
[19:44] <anvo> Anybody with experience with NAS file servers?
[19:45] <System32> Look some guide for this.
[19:45] <steeleweb> anyone able to help with connecting to vpn
[19:45] <System32> To connect on VPS you must know Linux Commands.
[19:45] <System32> VPN*
[19:46] <steeleweb> yes VPN
[19:46] <System32> You could use Metasploit...
[19:46] <steeleweb> I am trying to connect to work
[19:46] <steeleweb> metasploit
[19:47] <System32> Try, and tell me.
[19:47] <System32> Now, i'm using BackTrack 4 Final.
[19:47] <System32> What OS are you using ?
[19:47] <axe_ranger> okay guess not lol thx anyway
[19:47] <System32> You are welcome ;)
[19:48] <System32> Wich of you want to bypass a firewall protection with me ? :-P
[19:50] <haavaros> Hi! I'm trying to open transmission via ssh, but i get "cant open display". How do I set the display to 0?
[19:50] <haavaros> sry nvm
[19:50] <steeleweb> xubuntu 9
[19:50] <axe_ranger> sry lost my connection
[19:50] <Pici> System32: We do not support backtrack here. Their support channel is #backtrack-linux
[19:50] <Ed__> ping
[19:52] <steeleweb> is metasploit downloadable by package manager
[19:52] <axe_ranger> already been there
[19:52] <Pici> steeleweb: It has nothing to do with connecting to a VPN.
[19:52] <steeleweb> sorry, my bad
[19:52] <steeleweb> I was sidetracked
[19:52] <Pici> steeleweb: Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN for connecting to a vpn.
[19:53] <Pici> steeleweb: Let us know if you need more help,.
[19:53] <steeleweb> will do
[19:53] <inktri> is the nvidia 195.36.15 driver downloaded via the "Hardware Drivers" different from the developer driver here: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cuda_3_0_downloads.html#Linux ?
[19:53] <axe_ranger> they say they dont support the cad because it wont work for what the os is made to do
[19:53] <Pici> axe_ranger: Are you running backtarck?
[19:53] <steeleweb> the wierd thing I connected but am unable to browse network or even ping servers
[19:53] <axe_ranger> i could care less about what its made to do i just need it to work
[19:54] <xbucefalo> hello!
[19:55] <xbucefalo> Qualche Italiano?
[19:55] <Pici> !it | xbucefalo
[19:55] <U-b-u-n-t-u> is there a good package to set up a hotkey command
[19:56] <sowhat04> there are a fwe softwares to backup the system. But can someone tell me which can backup and this backup works and as a live cd and installable cd ?
[19:57] <xangua> U-b-u-n-t-u: system> preferences> combination keys
[19:57] <U-b-u-n-t-u> thanks
[19:58] <sowhat04> im gonna be crazy :) i am waiting for backup 3-4 weeks and im editing this ubuntu but at the end i can not backup it :(
[19:59] <sowhat04> there is no a simple way to backup all system ?
[19:59] <genii> axe_ranger: If you don't care about what your operating system is as long as your wireless card works then why aren't you installing something other than backtrack rather than flogging a dead horse?
[20:00] <genii> Bah, left. This is what happens forming replies in two parts
[20:00] <erUSUL> !backup
[20:00] <wise_crypt> !info ndiswraper
[20:00] <erUSUL> !ndiswrapper > wise_crypt
[20:01] <LinuxNIT_> does anyone know how to enable compiz in ubuntu runining in vmware?
[20:01] <mezimezim>  Hi there, I am using openoffice and I have removed the openoffice.org-gnome package, because I use a dark theme and it looks bad otherwise. However, I lost the nice gnome file browser at the same time....any idea how I can get just that back, i.e. the gnome file browser?
[20:02] <helo> 'update-rc.d -f ssh remove' is failing for me... can i just rm /etc/rc?.d/*ssh* ?
[20:03] <xbucefalo>  /join #ubuntu-it
[20:03] <LinuxGuy2009> I cant seem to get Cairo dock to download and install themes. Where do i go to manually download them so I can try and drag and drop them into it?
[20:04] <xangua> reinstalling the package mezimezim
[20:04] <mezimezim> xangua: very funny!
[20:04] <steeleweb> I am able to connect however cannot browse or ping any of my servers
[20:04] <mezimezim> xangua: If I do so I am back to the dark look....that is precisely why I am here asking my question....
[20:05] <Travis-42> when I use adduser I get "gpasswd: can't get lock" -- how do I clear this?
[20:05] <misienta> Here we go, new rival for BT, http://www.netinfinity.org/download/ ,waiting for first reviews from you
[20:06] <idleone_> misienta: please do not advertise in here
[20:06] <Losha> helo: yes, rm'ing /etc/rc?.d/*ssh* should work just fine...
[20:06] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: What was your original question?
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !info ndiswrapper
[20:07] <steeleweb> need help with VPN, any one.  I am able to connect however I am unable to browse or pin servers
[20:07]  * helo wonders why sshd is still running after an /etc/init.d/ssh stop
[20:07] <wise_crypt> !ndiswrapper
[20:07] <Losha> helo: was there some output from /etc/init.d/ssh stop ?
[20:08] <helo> * Stopping OpenBSD Secure Shell server sshd  [ OK ]
[20:08] <Losha> helo: are you ssh'ed into the machine?
[20:08] <helo> i killed the pid, and now it seems to be dead... i guess i got the manual transmission version of ubuntu today ;)
[20:08] <helo> no, but the machine is ssh'd into another machine
[20:10] <Losha> helo: odd. If you ssh in, you fork a copy of sshd which runs as long as the connection is open. This allows you to restart e.g. an updated version of sshd while logged in via ssh...
[20:11] <nilsma> how do i list my (unmounted) usb-devices in a terminal? i have a cardreader connected, but not installed and i need to find its name so i can google how to install it :)
[20:11] <LinuxGuy2009> nilsma: sudo lshw ?
[20:11] <haavaros> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 9.10. Often when I have many windows open, I can't switch to them via the panel, only by alt-tab. They don't respond on mouse clicks. What's wrong?
[20:11] <Losha> nilsma: run dmesg and see if there's some output in there
[20:12] <nilsma> thank you both :)
[20:12] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Compiz running?
[20:13] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Don't think so, I've disabled all visual effects under appearance
[20:14] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Have you checked launchpad to see if anyone else is having that issue?
[20:14] <VCoolio> haavaros: is metacity set to raise windows on click? Check gconf-editor, apps > metacity > general I think
[20:15] <haavaros> VCoolio: Thing is, it's usally working, but when I have alot of windows open, some of them become unresponsive to clicks on the panel, seems random
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: thats strange
[20:16] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: My thought exactly
[20:16] <steeleweb> Connected to vpn but unable to ping servers or browse the network, I am able to ping my out side interface is there something I need to check or make a change on I am using the kvpn to connect
[20:16] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Does it happen when some specific app is started?
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Oh well ... there's some other peculiarities that have occured lately, so I'll just do a fresh install when 10 comes
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Not that I have noticed
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Other random probs?
[20:17] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Tested memory lately?
[20:17] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Yeah, like the indicator applet suddenly losing the option to shutdown etc
[20:18] <residentgrey> hola
[20:18] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: No, but that indicator problem is not unique, seen others get it too with 9.10
[20:18] <steeleweb> any help with previous question anyone
[20:18] <mezimezim> LinuxGuy2009: basically, I have removed the openoffice.org-gnome package because it makes openoffice hard to work with under a dark theme. My problem is that by doing so I have also lost the nice file browser in openoffice, so I don't have shortcuts, etc. My question: How do I get just the file browser back in openoffice.org, without the rest of the so-called "gnome integration"
[20:18] <residentgrey> anyone have the screen flicker after coming out of hibernation?
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: Oh ok
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> haavaros: I completely skipped 9.10 cause of all the bugs I had with several machines. Dont feel bad.
[20:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Lucid is much much better
[20:18] <haavaros> LinuxGuy2009: Ok, good to know
[20:19] <residentgrey> mezimezim ever looked at nautilus?
[20:19] <funkycat90210> I'm considering upgrading my servers from 8.04 LTS to 9.10 non-LTS, is that possible?
[20:19] <mezimezim> residentgrey: what do you mean?
[20:19] <xangua> mezimezim: or you could just use another theme
[20:19] <residentgrey> the file browser named nautilus that is already installed with the system
[20:20] <xangua> funkycat90210: no
[20:20] <residentgrey> at least for the ubuntu flavor
[20:20] <mezimezim> residentgrey: OK, I know, what about it?
[20:20] <residentgrey> you were asking about a nice browser
[20:20] <xangua> funkycat90210: only if you want to install from zero
[20:20] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Well if you removed openoffice.org-gnome and the shortcuts are gone then that is exactly what is needed to get them.
[20:20] <Losha> !upgrade
[20:20] <residentgrey> hey guys is it possible to convert an ubuntu system to xubuntu?
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: Yes
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: Install xubuntu-desktop, roll
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: If you dont like the dark theme then just change the theme
[20:21] <funkycat90210> xangua, darn.. that throws a wrench into things here hmm
[20:21] <residentgrey> sudo tasksel way?
[20:21] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: yes install xfce
[20:21] <mezimezim> linuxguy2009: the theme is very fine on every other program!
[20:21] <snuxoll> residentgrey: No
[20:22] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Well those are pretty much your choices I think.
[20:22] <snuxoll> residentgrey: sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <xangua> residentgrey: you can install the xfce dektop: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:22] <bondiblueos9> I want to play sound from mplayer to my pcspkr; how can I do this?
[20:23] <funkycat90210> xangua, according to here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes I can go from 8.04LTS to 8.10, i guess from there I can go to 9.10 non lts?
[20:23] <residentgrey> actually anyone know how to reinstall radeon drivers from the command line, as my xubuntu install will not load in full mode
[20:23] <LinuxGuy2009> mezimezim: Tried looking in options color schemes?
[20:23] <Losha> funkycat90210: when 10.04 comes out, you will be able to go from 8.04 to 10.04 because they are both LTS releases. In your place, I would wait a couple of months for 10.04 to stabilize, and then consider upgrading. Are you unhappy with 8.04 for some reason?
[20:23] <LinuxGuy2009> funkycat90210: Im using Lucid since Beta1 and love it. No major issues to speak of.
[20:23] <na15> f
[20:23] <funkycat90210> Losha, well i haven't run into problems yet, but I was running into centos problems with really old RPMs, so I figured I could avoid that with non-LTS ubuntu
[20:24] <xangua> funkycat90210: no, from 8.10 you will need to upgrade to 9.04 and then to 9.10
[20:24] <funkycat90210> xangua, got it
[20:24] <funkycat90210> lemme see if 8.04LTS has the bucardo packages i need, perhaps 8.04LTS updates its packages more often
[20:26] <Losha> funkycat90210: now I'm confused. What does centos/rpms have to do with ubuntu 8.04 LTS ?
[20:27] <LinuxGuy2009>  Losha: He said centos has really old packages. Ubuntu has newer/
[20:27] <residentgrey> isn't centos a variant?
[20:27] <Vigo> residentgrey: No
[20:27] <Losha> residentgrey: centos isn't a debian derivative like ubuntu...
[20:27] <residentgrey> ok
[20:28] <karl_> hello anybody
[20:28] <residentgrey> what is the program in the ubuntu flavor that handles the theming called? i would love to have it on my other setup
[20:28] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: stability vs. new features. It's always a trade-off....
[20:29] <karl_> HELLO
[20:29] <funkycat90210> Losha, nevermind sorry for confusing.. but when I try to install the open source bucardo I get: Warning: prerequisite ExtUtils::MakeMaker 6.32 not found. We have 6.3001.  .... but 9.10 has the right version. The LTS releases don't update fast enough for me
[20:29] <xangua> !hi | karl_
[20:29] <VCoolio> residentgrey: gnome-appearance-properties? guess it's part of some package though
[20:29] <LinuxGuy2009> Losha: Thanks captain obvious! :P
[20:29] <karl_> do you know how i download a program to use windows software please
[20:29] <residentgrey> prolly grouped in with gnome only...
[20:30] <Vigo> residentgrey: Like eye candy packages?
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  karl_: look in software center for wine
[20:30] <Losha> funkycat90210: Got it...
[20:30] <VCoolio> residentgrey: it needs the gnome-settings-daemon also, use lxappearance instead
[20:30] <LinuxGuy2009>  karl_: or the newest version can be had by adding the winehq repo and then installing.
[20:30] <ombra> is here anyone with this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/270798
[20:30] <residentgrey> i just like the way themes are managed better than xubuntu's
[20:30] <erUSUL> !wine | karl_
[20:31] <karl_> i have got wine but it doesnt work on the program i am trying to use
[20:31] <steeleweb> anyone have knowledge on vpn setup?
[20:31] <xangua> !appdb | karl_
[20:32] <erUSUL> karl_: ask in #winehq for specific help with wine
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2009> ombra: 10.04 will be released in 6 days and it doesnt do that on my RC installation.
[20:32] <Guest76653> #ubuntu-de
[20:32] <hamzaatova1> from time to time the youtube player gets muted and i need to restart. why????????????????
[20:32] <Guest76653> how change the cannel
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Which browser are you using?
[20:33] <xangua> hamzaatova1: what version of ubuntu¿
[20:33] <Vigo> Guest76653: like /join #cnanel
[20:33] <Reygun> :-(
[20:33] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: 32 or 64 bit installation?
[20:34] <bondiblueos9> which audio device manager is the most lightweight?
[20:35] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: you mean OSS vs alsa etc?
[20:35] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: yes
[20:35] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, xangua firefox, ubuntu regular with whole disk encryption. 32 bit
[20:35] <funkycat90210> wow most of the upgrade instructions from 8.04LTS -> x y z -> 9.04/9.10 state that it will probably crash upon reboot. Given that these are remote machines I'll probably have to spend a day at the datacenter upgrading all the machines manually, d'oh
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: Probably look at what lubuntu or xubuntu use out of the box. Best guess.
[20:36] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: wait a week and do 8.04 --> 10.04
[20:36] <trevor> does anyone know how i can get a semi transparent panel like the one in this screenshot http://blazmir1.deviantart.com/art/love-is-in-the-air-159262599 I am using the gtk theme and it is just a normal grey panel
[20:36] <xangua> hamzaatova1: what #version #release of ubuntu
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Try with regular firefox or google chrome maybe to rule out a broswer bug?
[20:36] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, but what about 1.5 years down the road when that LTS gets too old to support something new I want on the machine.. i think that LTS updates are just too slow for me.
[20:37] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, i use reg ff but i didn't knew there is g chrome for linux
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2009>  funkycat90210: Yes LTS are only every 2 years. But are driven for stability.
[20:37] <maco> funkycat90210: do you know about backports?
[20:37] <bburhans|web> trevor: right-click your panel, there are transparency options under the background tab
[20:37] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: you do 10.04 to 10.10
[20:37] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Also are you using the adobe flash plugin?
[20:38] <residentgrey> trevor
[20:38] <trevor> yes? residentgrey
[20:38] <VCoolio> trevor: the dock is probably awn; give it a shot, or try cairo-dock, both are good; you'll need to set your window manager to enable compositing though
[20:38] <funkycat90210> maco: not familiar w/ backports
[20:38] <residentgrey> right click the taskbar and select properties
[20:38] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, yeah
[20:39] <residentgrey> select color and you can then set transparencies
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Im on Lucid and havent had any flash issues myself.
[20:39] <trevor> I am using awn, i love it, the panel at the top though is transparent, and not in the same way that is in the properties menu
[20:39] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, there's no going from 10.04LTS to 10.10 I think
[20:39] <trevor> i cant figure it out for the life of me
[20:39] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: sure there is
[20:39] <bburhans|web> trevor: set a solid (not image) background color and then change the transparency/opacity
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> trevor: Trying to make the top panel seem to be gone?
[20:39] <bburhans|web> as residentgrey said, trevor
[20:40] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: you only have to tick a checkbox in Software Soureces to get "normal" dist upgrades (like in 8.04)
[20:40] <residentgrey> xubuntu has a separate menu for transparency as well
[20:41] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, hmm i dont have access to the gui, how can I do that without the gui?
[20:41] <Vigo> I think there is an alt-F2 for that, let me check,,,,,,
[20:41] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, how do i remove the flash adobe and get lucid?
[20:41] <erUSUL> funkycat90210: oops, that i dunno; ask in #ubuntu-server they surely know
[20:41] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Lucid is not a flash replacement. Its the next LTS release of Ubuntu.
[20:41] <funkycat90210> erUSUL, goodcall
[20:42] <residentgrey> what does lts mean?
[20:42] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Will be finalized and released in 6 days.
[20:42] <VCoolio> residentgrey: long term support, every two years there is one
[20:42] <residentgrey> wow thanks
[20:42] <acicula> funkycat90210: there's always -X
[20:42] <residentgrey> <- is a nix nub
[20:43] <maco> residentgrey: tls is just an ubuntu term
[20:43] <erUSUL> s/tls/lts/
[20:43] <maco> erUSUL: uh yeah that
[20:43] <VCoolio> residentgrey: you can jump from lts to lts versions, other releases you need to upgrade one by one; fresh installs recommended though
[20:43] <maco> residentgrey: whoops
[20:44] <Vigo> erUSUL: Yes, the Alt-f2 can do it.
[20:44] <hamzaatova1> LinuxGuy2009, the next release of ubuntu? so fast? i'm happy
[20:44] <LinuxGuy2009> hamzaatova1: Yep it runs great too.
[20:44] <residentgrey> what do I need to back up in order to reclaim what I did to my system? I need to reinstall xubuntu on my other partition and I don't want my settings to erase
[20:45] <babu> except for the mac like window buttons which frustrates me
[20:45] <acicula> residentgrey: by reinstalling xubuntu you mean as in reinstalling the os?
[20:45] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: copy and paste /home to an external drive. Copy and paste back after fresh install.
[20:45] <babu> is there an option to change it back to the old way?
[20:45] <residentgrey> what about config?
[20:45] <acicula> !reverting
[20:46] <Vigo> !backup | residentgrey
[20:46] <LinuxGuy2009> babu: gconf-editor /apps/metacity/general/button_layout
[20:46] <acicula> no joy, oh well :), you can downgrade some packages sometimes, but downgrading or wiping is not really possible
[20:46] <babu> Oh cool thanks LinuxGuy2009
[20:46] <acicula> aside from purging a package and forcibly reinstalling it or doing a clean install
[20:46] <albert__> hi, how do i start a program in xterm to be able to use the terminal afterwards
[20:46] <LinuxGuy2009> babu: your welcome
[20:47] <acicula> albert__: add a &
[20:47] <residentgrey> also anyone have problems playing games? a lot of games I installed before just dont run
[20:47] <BrutusGosdric> hi. is there some new multi-protocol messenger for linux out there?
[20:47] <Vigo> residentgrey: You can usually just backup the Home folder, but I always suggest a full backup before making any system changes.
[20:47] <albert__> thanks
[20:47] <kyubutsu> you can use this command:  update-manager -d   and upgrade the system without losing your settings or files
[20:47] <percey> is there anyone that can help me setup pan to download from newsgroups
[20:47] <acicula> albert__: you can control what job runs in the foreground also with fg and bg, and ctrl-Z to pause a current fg process
[20:47] <residentgrey> I still don't know where everything goes for each given program so it's hard to understand right now
[20:47] <xangua> BrutusGosdric: pidgin, empathy, kopete
[20:47] <kyubutsu> upgrade to lucid that is
[20:48] <BrutusGosdric> xand, i mean a new one
[20:48] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: all user created content including application preferences are stored in /home
[20:48] <albert__> ah, thanks
[20:48] <BrutusGosdric> xangua, i heard about a new one
[20:48] <residentgrey> what about the stuff in /etc?
[20:49] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: Well if you made changes in /etc then you can back those up as well.
[20:49] <Vigo> residentgrey: It is a learning curve as well as a forgetting curve, this Package does NOT rely on 14 blobs to run, is rather neat and clean.
[20:49] <acicula> residentgrey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard explains the structure
[20:49] <residentgrey> im gonna try for lpi certs someday
[20:50] <albert__> acicula, how do i unpause a process? ;D
[20:50] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: When you get more advanced in learning and use, you can choose to manually partition with a seperate partition for stuff like /etc and /home.
[20:50] <albert__> ah, got it
[20:50] <acicula> albert__: fg or fg <pid>,
[20:50] <mininessie> idk
[20:50] <erUSUL> albert__: how did you pused it ?
[20:50] <albert__> ctrl z
[20:50] <residentgrey> any more reading suggestions?
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> residentgrey: google
[20:51] <residentgrey> lol
[20:51] <percey> can someone trouble shoot pan
[20:51] <erUSUL> albert__: well fg or bg <jobnumber>/PID will do
[20:51] <Pupeno> How do I make Rythmbox re-scan the files for tags?
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> percey: pan?
[20:51] <albert__> yeah, i just understood the thing with pause and unpause
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: there is a menu option to monitor changes in your mucid folder for example
[20:51] <LinuxGuy2009> music*
[20:52] <albert__> thank you
[20:52] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: what is mucid?
[20:52] <Vigo> residentgrey: three days or more on the forums, to get started, after you have learned, please help others with what you have learned.
[20:52] <percey> i am trying to connect to my newserver but it sits on connecting
[20:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: music*
[20:52] <residentgrey> vigo I try
[20:52] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: If you add new tracks then it will see them and add them to your rhythmbox library automatically.
[20:53] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: oh, ok... it doesn't seem to be re-scanning the files though.
[20:53] <Vigo> residentgrey: It is an ongoing process, I learn every day or it is a day wasted.
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Rescanning for what?
[20:53] <ghost> hi all
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Are you trying to tag your files
[20:53] <rocket16> !hi > ghost
[20:53] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: for the new tags I've just modified.
[20:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: EasyTag
[20:54] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: yes, I used easytag to modify them.
[20:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno:Ok so what part of the tag does it not see?
[20:54] <rocket16> !hi > Guest31446
[20:54] <Guest31446> I am trying to copy a file in to my lib/firmware folder and cant because of permissions. I THOUGHT I am logged in as root.
[20:54] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I don't know, I can't find the files, it doesn't see the album for sure.
[20:54] <LinuxGuy2009> Guest31446: gksudo nautilus
[20:54] <Guest31446> Can I do it through X? Or do I need to do it through terminal?
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Is the album in your music folder?
[20:55] <residentgrey> !google gksudo
[20:55] <rocket16> Guest31446: Use Alt+F2 and type "gksudo nautilus"
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: no, as far as I know.
[20:55] <Guest31446> I dont know the commmand through term. though
[20:55] <residentgrey> !triggers
[20:55] <Vigo> Guest31446: That is not advised.
[20:55] <residentgrey> !help
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: it was imported manually.
[20:55] <Pici> !msthebot | residentgrey
[20:55] <Vigo> !root
[20:55] <maco> residentgrey: there is no google factoid because we do not just throw google at people
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Then unless you add it manually by dragging and dropping it wont see it. It cant magically know where all your music tracks are.
[20:55] <Pici> !msgthebot > residentgrey
[20:55] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I already did that!
[20:56] <residentgrey> ?
[20:56] <mininessie> ubottu, yeah but to change folder setting you need to make a root with a password
[20:56] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Its not seeing the album as in any of the tracks or it doesnt see the album 'tag'?
[20:56] <erUSUL> !google > residentgrey
[20:56] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I know it's not magic. I added the files, they didn't have any tags so it's impossible to find those tracks, I added the tags, but Rythmbox didn't update it's database to have their new tags.
[20:56] <maco> !factoids > residentgrey
[20:57] <acicula> Guest31446: what command are you using to copy, and what does whoami in a terminal say. running standard gui aps like nautilus as root is not a good idea btw. Also how did you log in as root
[20:57] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: it's not seeing the tag, I managed to find one track only.
[20:57] <Guest31446> What is the command to move a file from downloads to /lib/firmware?
[20:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Remove all track from library and readd
[20:57] <residentgrey> I was not trying to direct someone to google
[20:57] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I can't nuke my wife's music library for this, but thanks.
[20:57] <residentgrey> I was trying to get  a google link for myself
[20:57] <acicula> Guest31446: /lib is a system directory where only root has access, so you can copy as root using sudo cp from to
[20:57] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno:OMG your not deleteing files by removing them from the rhythmbox database.
[20:58] <acicula> Guest31446: best be carefull though, it will not ask for confirmation if you make an error
[20:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Just drag em right back in so it can recreate the database
[20:58] <melm> i get this error when i try to compile
[20:58] <melm> configure: error: The important program mcopidl was not found!
[20:58] <melm> Please check whether you installed aRts correctly or use
[20:58] <melm> --without-arts to compile without aRts support (this will remove functionality
[20:58] <FloodBot2> melm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:58] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: I know that, still, I can't nuke my wife's list of songs imported for this.
[20:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Then your pretty much SOL I guess
[20:59] <acicula> melm: check your readme, and install the dependencies (including the -dev version) or disable features via configure flags as indicated
[20:59] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Thats how you fix it like it or lump it.
[20:59] <LzrdKing> !SOL
[20:59] <melm> ok thx
[20:59] <mininessie> windows me
[20:59] <UnNaturalHigh> anyone here having problems with brightness keys on there laptop?
[20:59] <LinuxGuy2009> LzrdKing: !holycow
[21:00] <kacper_> #ubuntu.pl
[21:00] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Im on Lucid and no.
[21:00] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: yea
[21:00] <Pupeno> LinuxGuy2009: SOL?
[21:00] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, yes, I remember from yesterday
[21:00] <zavirbaf12> Hi
[21:00] <UnNaturalHigh> skihero, have you managed to solve the problem?
[21:00] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: You can use the panel applet called brightness if you need that feature and your multimedia keys dont work.
[21:00] <acicula> UnNaturalHigh: best to search with your specific laptop model on the brightness issue, its fairly hardware dependent
[21:00] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: using applets to control
[21:01] <zavirbaf12> i have a problem
[21:01] <LinuxGuy2009> Pupeno: Forget it, I already answered your question.
[21:01] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: am on karmic
[21:01] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, panel applet doesn't work for me upon upgrading to lucid
[21:01] <Pupeno> Does anybody know what LinuxGuy2009 meant by "SOL"?
[21:01] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Yeah thats why I dont upgrade.
[21:01] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, when I try to click on any part of the applet it just disappears
[21:01] <zavirbaf12> i have a webcam genius slim 320 but i can't find driver for linux
[21:01] <mininessie> shit out of luck
[21:02] <LinuxGuy2009> zavirbaf12: Tried Cheese?
[21:02] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, well that is just silly if you can't upgrade because of regressions
[21:02] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, one would assume that upgrading leads to a better system
[21:02] <zavirbaf12> what?
[21:02] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Tell the devs not me. I already know this.
[21:03] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: Clean install does for sure. All I know is that I personally dont trust upgrades.
[21:03] <Pici> UnNaturalHigh : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Lucid/10.04 support/discussion.
[21:03] <Pici> Lucid is still offtopic for this channel until its release date.
[21:03] <acicula> zavirbaf12: how are you determining it is not working/a driver needs loading/is missing?
[21:04] <acicula> zavirbaf12: also if you start gstreamer-properties and switch to the video tab does it provide any output?
[21:04] <LinuxGuy2009> Pici: Talking about upgrading isnt really offtopic, its a support issue.
[21:05] <UnNaturalHigh> LinuxGuy2009, well the brightness keys don't work on the live cd, so a clean install would most likely not solve anything
[21:05] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: I agree
[21:05] <skihero> UnNaturalHigh: i use this echo 1|sudo tee /sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[21:05] <ka0tic> my usb drive belongs to root.. how do i change it?
[21:05] <Vigo> Is there a dpkg <something> that removes packages that have not been accessed or used in XYZ amount of time, like three months?
[21:05] <LinuxGuy2009> UnNaturalHigh: I would file a bug for whatever release your running.
[21:06] <UnNaturalHigh> skihero, cool, I will check that out. thanks for the tip!
[21:06] <LinuxGuy2009> ka0tic: gksudo nautilus, right click the drive and change permissions.
[21:06] <Pici> LinuxGuy2009: Talking about upgrading to Lucid is offtopic.  Please use #ubuntu+1
[21:07] <Pici> !lucid
[21:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: sudo apt-get autoremove will remove all un-needed packages from your system if thats what you need.
[21:07] <LinuxGuy2009> Pici: No one said Lucid. We were speaking of the process of upgrading. Lets move on shall we?
[21:08] <Vigo> LinuxGuy2009: Thank you, I was uncertain as to the exact CLI call.
[21:08] <Pici> LinuxGuy2009: sure :)
[21:09] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Very handy if you like testing out stuff in the repos and then later remove them and stuff gets left behind.
[21:10] <Vigo> LinuxGuy2009: I agree, that is why I asked, and I thank you for the proper response.
[21:10] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Your quite welcome
[21:10] <acicula> autoremove does not check the frequency of what is used but just checks unused depenencies on automatcly installed packages
[21:11] <LinuxGuy2009> acicula: correct
[21:11] <abstrakt> wtf
[21:11] <abstrakt> compiled PHP 5.3 on 9.10
[21:11] <abstrakt> and i can't get GD to compile with JPEG support
[21:11] <Vigo> acicula: Do I need to add a timestamp call?
[21:11] <abstrakt> GD doesn't want to find the libjpeg apparently, maybe because it's named libjpeg62 ?
[21:12] <street_dvd> How do I export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:12] <acicula> Vigo: there is no timestamping of any kind
[21:12] <acicula> not like that anyway
[21:12] <abstrakt> anyone have ideas?
[21:12] <JabberWalkie> ok, so I want to be able to start 2 X sessions on boot, each with different settings, ie desktop background, resolution, and possibly different a different window manager....any Ideas how I can do this?
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Vigo: Why would a time stamp be needed? Anything that autoremove takes off your system isnt being used by anything anyways?
[21:12] <_pg_> any word on how long iphones will sync with banshee?
[21:12] <Vigo> I like to ask, this way I learn.
[21:12] <JabberWalkie> and from the same login
[21:12] <LinuxGuy2009> _pg_: check out gtkpod
[21:13] <acicula> you can check the access times on executables in bin/sbin and fetch the package names, but it wont do you any good, you hardly ever need init, but life sucks if its not there ;)
[21:13] <street_dvd> Is there any way I can export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:13] <Vigo> Good one
[21:13] <acicula> best to just use add/remove programs to remove stuff you never use and leave it at that
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, GDM will no longer let the same user log in twice (used to be possible, but no longer)
[21:14] <Travis-42> after a crash in which I lost power, tons of files seem to be corrupted or have bad permissions. I ran fsck but the problem remains. Is there any other way to fix it?
[21:14] <sanguisdex> is there a good way to check for wifi sniffers/snoopers with ubuntu?
[21:14] <JabberWalkie> ZykoticK9: not login twice, just start 2 x sessions
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, same difference i'm affraid
[21:15] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: stuff in your home folder you mean?
[21:15] <bondiblueos9> sanguidex: do you mean to see if someone is listening to your wifi traffic?
[21:15] <Tamun> elo
[21:15] <acicula> sanguisdex: you cant detect passive listeners, you can check the mac list/log on your router to see if anyones been connecting to it though. if you suspect someone is switch to wpa/wpa2 with a decent password and they will be shut out
[21:15] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: everything. example errors
[21:15] <JabberWalkie> well, ill find a login manager that can do it...
[21:15] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: I can't even log in because of permission denied
[21:15] <sanguisdex> bondiblueos9: yes that's what I mean
[21:15] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, this might help starting multiple X sessions on boot though http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/mandriva-30/how-to-start-multiple-x-sessions-at-startup-124925/ best of luck
[21:16] <JabberWalkie> k, thx
[21:16] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: Manually ran fsck on unmounted filesystem?
[21:16] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: I did. still no luck
[21:16] <ubuntu> net.pl
[21:16] <ubuntu> www.onet.pl
[21:16] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: It found and fixed thousands of things... but didn't fix enough I guess
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, FYI GDM will allow you to log in using 2 different users at the same time
[21:17] <sanguisdex> acicula: this is more becase the the trace route form the coffee shop I am sitting in had 2 dodgy looking IP's
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: Then I might guess that your system would benefit from a clean install. I would anyways.
[21:17] <street_dvd> How do I export my music library from banshee into another music player, but maintain my ratings, date added, 1d3 tags, and other info stored in the banshee.db file?
[21:17] <bondiblueos9> how do I use snd-pcsp as an audio output device
[21:17] <Travis-42> LinuxGuy2009: sigh, ok thanks. Is there any way to reduce the damage cause by crashes? so that files don't get corrupted?
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> street_dvd: Well if you sync with rhythmbox and those things arent sent to the music player then its probably not supported.
[21:18] <mouse_> does anyone in here have experience using idjc and jackd?
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> street_dvd, doubt the rating/date added stuff can be moved to any other player -- the ID3 tags will remain
[21:18] <aendruk> Is there a way to see why a package was installed, i.e. what package depends on it? (I'm trying to figure out how to remove all games.)
[21:18] <acicula> sanguisdex: dodgy ip's?
[21:18] <rafaelsoaresbr> sanguisdex, if someone's wifi adapter is in promiscuous mode, it's impossible to detect
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> Travis-42: If you worried about stability maybe stay with LTS releases? Just a suggestion.
[21:18] <JabberWalkie> k, well what im trying to do is have a seperate desktop optimized for vnc (lower resolution, no effects etc). So it might be better to make a script to start the desktop first then run the vnc server, rather than starting 2 desktops everything i boot...
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> rafaelsoaresbr: google for macchanger
[21:19] <street_dvd> I don't mean rhythmbox, guayadecque for example, then
[21:19] <werwer> aendruk with centos it's resolvedep... I don't know with ubuntu
[21:19] <subone> Is there any way to install Ubuntu onto its own partition from within Windows? My friends CD drive doesnt work and it wont boot from USB, but he is seriously addled with virii.
[21:19] <acicula> how does changing your mac help against getting traffic logged?
[21:19] <LinuxGuy2009> !wubi
[21:19] <JabberWalkie> yeah, that will be better, thx guys
[21:19] <ZykoticK9> JabberWalkie, while in xorg simply type "gdmflexiserver" to get a new login in a second Xorg session
[21:19] <Losha> Travis-42: what os release, and what type of filesystems?
[21:21] <sanguisdex> acicula: IP's between my self and the router
[21:21] <Losha> aendruk: Try: apt-cache depends <packagename> and also rdepends
[21:21] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: there is no way to tell if someone on your network is watching your data, because it by the nature of the network is available to them
[21:22] <Travis-42> Losha: ext3 in ubuntu server 8.04 32-bit
[21:22] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: what do you mean between you and the router?
[21:22] <acicula> sanguisdex: which router, mind you if its just someones wlan its not that weird for it to go through another local router before being switched to the internet
[21:22] <aendruk> werwer, Losha: thanks! just what I needed.
[21:22] <JabberWalkie> ZykoticK9: ok, thanks, Ill try that
[21:22] <acicula> which will show up as local ip addresses in your traceroute
[21:22] <sanguisdex> bondiblueos9: hops between my computer and the café that I am ins wirleless router
[21:22] <stryk3r> How can I run a bash script under terminal ? like what command should I use ?
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> sanguisdex: if you are on a wireless network, then the first hop should be the wireless router you are connected to
[21:23] <ardian> <IP_ADDRESS> is IP address of class?
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: nano filename
[21:23] <erUSUL> stryk3r: bash script
[21:23] <LinuxGuy2009>  stryk3r: sudo sh script.sh
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: start the new file with #!/bin/sh
[21:23] <bondiblueos9> stryk3r: oh you said run, I thought you said make
[21:24] <Losha> Travis-42: hard to get a more stable configuration than that. The fact that you've seen widespread file corruptions makes me wonder if your disk isn't failing. Normall a power glitch would only affect the handful of files that are open, and the ext3 journal takes care of them. Consider running smartmontools on your drives...
[21:24] <stryk3r> lol so sh script would do it ?
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> stryk3r: sudo sh script.sh (Thats how to run a script)
[21:24] <Travis-42> Losha: ok thanks for the help, I'll look into it
[21:24] <acicula> not every script needs root(sudo)
[21:24] <stryk3r> thanks LinuxGuy2009  and bondiblueos9
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> true
[21:24] <LinuxGuy2009> welcome
[21:24] <stryk3r> acicula,  this one does though
[21:24] <acicula> ah then it helps :)
[21:24] <stryk3r> :)
[21:25] <stryk3r> #This script will try to download, and install sabnzbdplus and OpenFTD
[21:25] <stryk3r> its a script a friend of mine did
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> How do I get floodbot to list factoids?
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> or ubottu?
[21:26] <Losha> !factoids | LinuxGuy2009
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> Losha: Thanks dude
[21:26] <Losha> LinuxGuy2009: much easier to read factoids at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:26] <LinuxGuy2009> thats cool
[21:27] <amosek> heh
[21:27] <stryk3r> just wondering, will  ubuntu stop me from processing rm -rf / ?
[21:27] <acicula> stryk3r: no
[21:27] <acicula> !danger
[21:27] <stryk3r> acicula, lol ok making sure
[21:27] <erUSUL> stryk3r: yes it will
[21:27] <bondiblueos9> maybe I'll try that next time I'm ready for a reinstall
[21:28] <stryk3r> will it or won't it ?
[21:28] <erUSUL> stryk3r: not ubuntu; rm will refuse to run
[21:28] <Losha> stryk3r: I hope your friend is trustworthy. Otherwise, that script could do *anything*...
[21:28] <guntbert> stryk3r: nothing funny here
[21:28] <acicula> erUSUL: even when run as root?
[21:28] <amosek> plenty of fun here
[21:28] <stryk3r> Losha, lol yea I was looking at the script. There is one that says "rm -rf $OPENFTD but I guess thats to erase a temp folder?
[21:28] <erUSUL> acicula: yes; you have to pass --no-preserve-root see "man rm"
[21:29] <acicula> erUSUL: wicked, i did not know that
[21:29] <Losha> stryk3r: I hope so. Where does OPENFTD get assigned?
[21:29] <erUSUL> acicula: easy to bypass just use /* instead of just /
[21:29] <stryk3r> OPENFTD=openftd-1.2.1.tar.bz2 Losha
[21:29] <erUSUL> acicula: recent thing.
[21:29] <Losha> stryk3r: looks ok then...
[21:29] <acicula> erUSUL: does it apply to all root points  or just / ?
[21:30] <acicula> oh just / if i read the man page correctly
[21:30] <erUSUL> acicula: ther is only one root :)
[21:30] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/170992
[21:30] <Oer> looks like cleanup tar.bz2 after install
[21:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !root
[21:30] <acicula> erUSUL: cat /proc/mount :P
[21:30] <ardian> us ysh a shell ?
[21:31] <ardian> is ysh a shell ?
[21:31] <Losha> stryk3r: looks kosher enough...
[21:31] <stryk3r> Losha, great, thanks for looking at it
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> can I play sound from my pc speaker?
[21:31] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: On some machines yes.
[21:31] <bwallen> bodiblueos9: idk, but why would you want to?
[21:31] <apoth__> hi im looking for a gnome-applet that shows my battery status
[21:31] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: ok, how
[21:32] <maco> ardian: interactive YAML interpreter
[21:32] <Losha> ardian: google says it's some kind of test shell, whatever that is...
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> bwallen: because this machine has no sound card
[21:32] <ardian> thanks much
[21:32] <maco> bondiblueos9: so you mean just the BEEP sound right?
[21:32] <acicula> erUSUL: i meant the root of a fs, not the / root, there's a sneaky one hiding under / though
[21:32] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: Some audio devices will have some random fader in the audio mixer for the volume of the internal speaker.
[21:32] <bondiblueos9> maco: no, I mean low quality wav files
[21:32] <erUSUL> acicula: it only preserves /
[21:33] <bwallen> bondiblueos9: ouch, that sucks. I remember back in the day playing wolf3d and doom which used the pc speaker... the quality sucks
[21:33] <maco> bondiblueos9: oh... i dont think thats doable
[21:33] <acicula> well no you can /could program the frequency of the speaker
[21:33] <bondiblueos9> acicula: I do that to spice up my shell scripts :P
[21:33] <stryk3r> lol script error :@
[21:33] <acicula> so you can do tones and stuff
[21:33] <maco> wow i wanna hear about this...
[21:33] <tar-> if I want to move my current /home to another drive, is it enough to make the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab and copy the current contents of /home there?
[21:33] <Losha> stryk3r: pastebin the error...
[21:33] <acicula> buy you probably will go deaf, or rip it out in a fit of rage
[21:33] <maco> tar-: yep
[21:34] <tar-> maco: thx :)
[21:34] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/171013
[21:35] <apoth__> guys do you know where i can find a gnome-panel applet that shows my battery status
[21:35] <maco> apoth__: should be one in there if you do right click -> add to panel
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Yeah its in there. Right click the panel and add applet
[21:35] <acicula> apoth__: are you currently on ac?
[21:35] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: add to panel
[21:36] <apoth__> im on accu
[21:36] <apoth__> and i dont see any applet for it
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Otherwise on a laptop you need to change power settings from show when running on battery to show always or whatever you want.
[21:36] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: System->Prefs->Power Management
[21:36] <acicula> hmm well you can add a static applet to the taskbar, but the gnome-power-manager program should also display your battery when under battery power
[21:37] <maco> apoth__: i think the default is to only have it visible when charging or discharging. if its just sitting there at 100% because youre plugged in it doesnt show
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> exactly
[21:37] <apoth__> ah there it is
[21:37] <apoth__> was disabledd
[21:37] <LinuxGuy2009> apoth__: Most likely it was just set to only be shown when on battery and not AC.
[21:37] <ardian> Which of the following Linux commands are you likely to use to display hypertextual documentation on a command?
[21:37] <ardian>         info
[21:37] <ardian>         man
[21:37] <ardian>         whatis
[21:37] <ardian>         define
[21:37] <FloodBot2> ardian: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:38] <acicula> info
[21:38] <apoth__> anyway its part of a set of indicators, is there a package that allows me to put it in the bar alone?
[21:38] <maco> ardian: homework?
[21:38] <PeterDrop_> hi all people. someboy can apointme how configure my sound card please?
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> acicula, isn't that man?
[21:38] <ardian> maco reading LPI
[21:38] <maco> ZykoticK9: man has its own weird syntax
[21:38] <acicula> man doesnt do links i think?
[21:38] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: man is not hyperlinked
[21:38] <acicula> groff formatting
[21:38] <acicula> or something
[21:38] <Losha> stryk3r: actually, it runs for me. Try sudo bash -x <scriptname>
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, hypertextual is what is says
[21:39] <stryk3r> Losha,  hm okay.
[21:39] <apoth__> well thx anyway cu
[21:39] <maco> ZykoticK9: yeah but im pretty sure manpages arent written in html
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> maco, they aren't so i guess info is correct - my bad.
[21:39] <stryk3r> Losha, "sudo sh -x bash-script" ?
[21:40] <Losha> stryk3r: That's not what I typed. I typed: sudo bash -x <scriptname>
[21:40] <maco> stryk3r: sh != bash
[21:41] <stryk3r> hmm
[21:41] <stryk3r> another error.
[21:41] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171052
[21:41] <CkhiKuzad> I have absolutely no audio, i am in ubuntu, with pulseaudio, yet i have no sound.
[21:41] <ardian> I applied for a scholarship for LPIC
[21:42] <maco> CkhiKuzad: sounds silly but common error..... have you checked with "alsamixer" command that nothing is muted?
[21:42] <Losha> stryk3r: you have spurious carriage returns in your script which you can't see. Run dos2unix <scriptname> to get rid of them...
[21:42] <LinuxGuy2009> CkhiKuzad: sudo lshw -C sound
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> CkhiKuzad: Make and model?
[21:43] <jonne> I just upgraded to Lucid, i found that xorg and compiz use up almost all my cpu when desktop-effects are enabled, using the cosed nvidia drivers. It was fine in Karmic. Anyone seen this bug anywhere?
[21:43]  * CkhiKuzad facepalms
[21:43] <CkhiKuzad> thanks maco
[21:43] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[21:43] <stryk3r> Losha, dos2nuix is not recognized, have to install it ?
[21:43] <LzrdKing> why are so many people using Lucid when its not released yet?
[21:44] <Losha> stryk3r: yes, it's in the package 'tofrodos'
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> Cause its great! :P
[21:44] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009 can u chek this please? http://pastebin.org/171070
[21:44] <erUSUL> stryk3r: use sed. sed 's/$/\r/' script > script_fixed
[21:44] <stryk3r> Losha, installing it
[21:44] <PeterDrop_> i have the same problem, i have no sound :(
[21:44] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Sure will
[21:44] <CkhiKuzad> maco, it didnt work
[21:44] <stryk3r> LOL
[21:44] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: this file /proc/asound/card0/codec\#0 tends to have more useful info for debugging
[21:45] <CkhiKuzad> alsamixer is at max, and it wont play any sound.
[21:45] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: muted?
[21:45] <maco> CkhiKuzad: are there MM at the bottom of any of the columns? cuz that means mute
[21:45] <CkhiKuzad> oh, yes there are ._.
[21:45] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Hmm same card I have on my motherboard from the looks.
[21:46] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: press m when you have that one selected
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> maco, i would hug you. but i wont. so i will have to say... thank you ^^
[21:46] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: if youre thinking "it says intel hda" concluding thing youre not going far enough likely...
[21:46] <maco> CkhiKuzad: haha
[21:46] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: and turn your sound down so you don't blast yourself
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> i had my sound pretty low too
[21:46] <stryk3r> I did what erUSUL said and it made a new file, but i still get the same error as before, Losha
[21:46] <CkhiKuzad> i keep it low usually
[21:47] <PeterDrop_> i dont have ANY sound xD
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> maco: No idea what your talking about. he
[21:47] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, some ideas?
[21:47] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171086
[21:47] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: im waiting for the pastebin to load. im just wondering what you looked at to decide it was the same as what you have
[21:47] <LinuxGuy2009> product: MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio
[21:48] <PeterDrop_> that i have
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> right
[21:48] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: thats probably not specific enough because 2 of the same chip integrated on 2 different motherboards will often behave differently
[21:48] <Losha> stryk3r: run dos2unix <original script file> and then sudo bash -x <original script file>
[21:48] <CkhiKuzad> also i would like to know, how would i get out of screen? i have it open, but i want to get out of it
[21:48] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: 9.10?
[21:48] <PeterDrop_> yes
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, yes
[21:49] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Has it ever worked with 9.10?
[21:49] <LzrdKing> maco: LinuxGuy2009: i too have intel-hda
[21:49] <maco> LzrdKing: which means nothing
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, never
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, but iam smart
[21:49] <LzrdKing> maco: sure, it means in an intel card
[21:49] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, i can follow indications
[21:49] <maco> "Intel HDA" is just a very vague spec. most laptops have something that fits that very vague spec
[21:49] <LzrdKing> chipset
[21:49] <LzrdKing> indeed
[21:49] <maco> that doesnt mean they actually work similarly let alone are the same
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Ahh. This is offtopic for me to say anything more than perhaps test the RC of the new release and see if that will fix you up in 6 days time.
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[21:50] <stryk3r> Losha, it jeeps saying dos2unix is not recognized
[21:50] <maco> stryk3r: installi t
[21:50] <PeterDrop_> LinuxGuy2009, ok, txss anyway for ur time
[21:50] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_:  sure
[21:50] <Guest49665> Great to be back in Linux again - Windows was starting to depress me :>
[21:50] <stryk3r> maco, I did, he said it was under tofrodos right ?
[21:51] <maco> PeterDrop_: i'll agree with LinuxGuy2009 on testing the lucid live cd as it may already ahve a bug fix (lots of changes to sound drivers in there)
[21:51] <PeterDrop_> ok maco, patience then
[21:51] <CkhiKuzad> how would i kill screen?
[21:51] <PeterDrop_> txs both
[21:51] <maco> LinuxGuy2009: for debugging audio, the script at http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh is useful
[21:51] <maco> PeterDrop_: oh you can grab today's CD if you want
[21:52] <CkhiKuzad> i want to completely end the program
[21:52] <maco> PeterDrop_: 6 days is the final release
[21:52] <rafaelsoaresbr> ubottu, tell me about ssh
[21:52] <LzrdKing> CkhiKuzad: exit in each window, when you exit in the last one, screen will close
[21:52] <maco> PeterDrop_: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[21:52] <Losha> stryk3r: maybe it's in a different package in your version. What does 'apt-cache search dos2unix' say?
[21:53] <duffydack> maco, thats the 19th.
[21:53] <stryk3r> Losha, nothing comes up in the terminal
[21:53] <CkhiKuzad> how do i exit, it just goes into the main terminal area, with the \o/ at the left side, and the bottom bar thing.
[21:53] <LzrdKing> daffyou mean 29th?
[21:53] <LinuxGuy2009> The servers are gonna be brought to a screaching crawl on the 29th.
[21:53] <littledani> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EShBCwg6Jc0
[21:53] <CkhiKuzad> its starting to reeeeeally tick me off.
[21:53] <maco> duffydack: archive froze a few days ago so possibly its that nothing changed since then
[21:53] <LzrdKing> duffydack: you mean 29th?
[21:54] <maco> LzrdKing: no the current livecd that pointed to is from the 19th instead of today
[21:54] <duffydack> LzrdKing, no, maco`s link to daily is 19th
[21:54] <maco> LzrdKing: im guessing its because nothing changed since the 19th
[21:54] <duffydack> maco, there have been updates since then...
[21:54] <LzrdKing> oh, i thought you mean 19 is in 6 days
[21:54] <maco> duffydack: in main or in universe?
[21:54] <PeterDrop_> maco, i have already installed 9.10 version, is any problem overinstaling this lucid version?
[21:54] <maco> cuz main froze for RC didnt it?
[21:54] <PeterDrop_> <---- newvie 100% sorry :(
[21:54] <stryk3r> i have lucid if that matters for this case
[21:55] <duffydack> maco,  didnt tak e much notice.. but from 19th to RC there were hardly any if any updates.. after RC I have had quite a few.
[21:55] <maco> PeterDrop_: you dont need to install it in order to test it. you can just boot from it and try it and then take it out and go back to 9.10.  though with less than a week left, its likely safe to upgrade
[21:55] <PeterDrop_> maco i understand, txs
[21:55] <maco> stryk3r: hardware testing
[21:55] <PeterDrop_> i will try
[21:55] <LinuxGuy2009> PeterDrop_: Yes I agree with maco its really quite good
[21:55] <Losha> stryk3r: ok, do this instead: tr -d '\r' < original_scriptfile > newfile    (Note: all punctuation is important here. Please cut&paste the exact line)
[21:56] <bondiblueos9> I'm going to wait to install lucid so I dont get told to go to #ubuntu_1 :P
[21:56] <maco> Losha: it looks like dos2unix is gone. at least, the command-not-found thing isnt picking up and saying what package to grab
[21:56] <erUSUL> stryk3r: have you pasted the actual script ?
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: #ubuntu+1 has the great same support as this channel does.
[21:56] <stryk3r> erUSUL, yea i did
[21:56] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: I bounce between
[21:56] <oxiredo_ro> whta server shoud i use with ntpdate for Romania ?
[21:56] <stryk3r> losha ok got the new file
[21:57] <zuzie> hi there :)
[21:57] <Losha> maco: It's lucid: who knows what nonsense is going on there...
[21:57] <Losha> stryk3r: ok, now try sudo bash -x newfile
[21:57] <stryk3r> itworks !
[21:57] <maco> Losha: oh yeah i have the command-not-found source package sitting here...
[21:57] <Losha> stryk3r: only took us half an hour....!
[21:57] <stryk3r> Losha, LOL. well I cant say it works, I can say it runs haha
[21:58] <stryk3r> Losha, i think i got an error..
[21:58] <Losha> erUSUL: the problem is hidden carriage returns in the script file (as from a dos machine). Why bash doesn't ignore them god alone knows...
[21:58] <stryk3r> care to take a peek?
[21:58] <Losha> stryk3r: sure, pastebin it...
[21:58] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171144
[21:59] <zuzie> if Iam stuck here with my ubuntu do I just throw in my prob here? I am very new to the whole thing yet
[21:59] <Losha> stryk3r: I don't think you have gcc/g++ installed. Try apt-get install build-essential and then try again
[21:59] <LinuxGuy2009> zuzie: Yes feel free to ask whatever help you need.
[21:59] <maco> Losha: apparently dos2unix was a symlink to fromdos and the symlink was removed because in debian they're getting a package called dos2unix but we dont have that one in ubuntu
[22:00] <erUSUL> stryk3r: my bad pasted the wrong script is « sed 's/.$//' script > script_fixed »
[22:00] <stryk3r> erUSUL, its ok, i got the file to run :)
[22:00] <stryk3r> Losha, will do
[22:00] <erUSUL> !ask | zuzie
[22:00] <Losha> erUSUL: my script basically did the same thing:  tr -d '\r' < original_scriptfile > newfile
[22:01] <zuzie> well to start: this is an eee pc 4g. my version is 9.10.  buntu works fine for a couple of days then suddenly when turning on it says error with the configuration server( /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exits with error code 256)  sorry trying to translate as good as i can from my language...
[22:01] <maco> ooh sed v. td
[22:01] <maco> bah tr
[22:01] <zuzie> hen I try to go on, it falls back to a login screen stating that the default power handling settings of GNOME  are  not properly installed. when i would login it starts the same cycle again and again..
[22:01] <lifestream> Hi, how do I make a HFS partition? When I go to gparted, it's greyed out
[22:01] <zuzie> I tried to log in recovery console do a couple of tricks but no effect. although with startx command I am able to at least use linux thats I have got up here to ask for help.
[22:01] <zuzie> :)
[22:02] <Ge5i> hi
[22:02] <zuzie> im stuck
[22:02] <LinuxGuy2009> zuzie: sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade (Maybe see if any new updates fix your issue?)
[22:03] <Ge5i> is there any command to run for terminal in order to compare the contents of two files ???
[22:03] <erUSUL> maco: Losha  stuck this in .bashrc ;P dos2unix() { sed 's/.$//' "$1" ; }
[22:03] <erUSUL> Ge5i: diff
[22:03] <Ge5i> erUSUL , thanks
[22:03] <erUSUL> Ge5i: if they are text files
[22:04] <Losha> erUSUL: I prefer my version. Yours will strip out the last char on a line if accidentally run on a non-dos file...
[22:04] <zuzie> i give it a go.. although i only have about 100 megs free space :P
[22:04] <unop> erUSUL, that could be damaging for a non-dos file
[22:04] <Ge5i> erUSUL, i want to compare two nmap scans in xml format , can i use this command for that purpose ?
[22:04] <lele24563> ciao
[22:05] <erUSUL> Ge5i: could work depending on how regular de xml is
[22:05] <Ge5i> erUSUL thanks i will try it...
[22:06] <stryk3r> Losha, those http://pastebin.org/171171 last two make: lines, is anything wrong with them?
[22:06] <erUSUL> unop: Losha ok ok
[22:06] <bondiblueos9> I'm trying to get mplayer -vo caca working and its not
[22:07] <zuzie> thank you Im off to try it :)
[22:07] <zuzie> c u
[22:07] <Losha> stryk3r: you're missing the glib2 library (a dependency). You'll need something like apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[22:07] <erUSUL> unop: Losha  dos2unix() { sed 's/\x0D$//' "$1" ; }
[22:07] <Losha> erUSUL: stubborn :-)
[22:08] <erUSUL> Losha: for the sake of completeness :)
[22:08] <thefirstdude> hi
[22:09] <TFon_> #sangoma
[22:10] <Navegadorx> hy
[22:10] <thefirstdude> my sister has a quest wireless route. when I connect to it using windows it asks for 8 digit pin number on router box, how to convert that to linux
[22:10] <thefirstdude> sepcificly ubuntu
[22:10] <thefirstdude> I donno the special hash key or w/e I just know the 8 digit pin
[22:10] <LinuxGuy2009>  thefirstdude: Its probably just a WEP or WPA key.
[22:10] <thefirstdude> I tried that already ofcourse
[22:10] <lifestream> Hi, how do I make a HFS partition? When I go to gparted, it's greyed out
[22:11] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude:Well whatever it asks for its gonna be an open standard.
[22:11] <thefirstdude> and I tried it as md5, and sha hexdigest
[22:11] <nsadmin> hfs is mac, isnt' it?
[22:11] <tar-> what does "nodev,nosuid" actually mean? (the definitions found are somewhat .. in need of another definition :)
[22:11] <bondiblueos9> lifestream: have you installed hfsutils?
[22:11] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Why would a router ask for an md5sum?
[22:11] <lifestream> bondiblueos9,  nope, thanks a lot
[22:11] <roscogruen> ANYONE:  is there a Ubuntu package similar to M$ Frontpage?
[22:12] <erUSUL> tar-: you ca not create dev file in that filesystem nor set the setuid on any file of that filesystem
[22:12] <erUSUL> !html | roscogruen
[22:12] <nsadmin> nosuid means that even if an executable is marked suid, it won't have any effect if it's within that mount
[22:12] <lifestream> rosco, yes. hold on
[22:12] <rosco> erUSUL: is the name of the package "!html?"
[22:12] <lifestream> rosco,  screem  quanta  seahorse
[22:12] <Losha> tar-: nodev means that files on the mounted filesystem cannot be used to talk to hardware devices....
[22:12] <nsadmin> rosco: plus there is #html and #css
[22:13] <erUSUL> rosco: no; read what ubottu said
[22:13] <PeterDrop_> iam searching apps for my work, before on win i used dreamweaver, now i found aptana it look very cool
[22:13] <rosco> lifestream: "screem quanta seahorse?"
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, don't use dreamweaver or nvu
[22:13] <tar-> erUSUL/Losha: thx
[22:13] <tar-> :)
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, you're only doing yourself a dis-service in the end
[22:13] <lifestream> rosco,  3 programs,  screen, quanta, and seahorse  (funny names,  I know)
[22:13] <thefirstdude> take a look at this http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0
[22:13] <thefirstdude> windows has setup for 8 digit pin
[22:13] <rosco> i don't and won't know html
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:13] <thefirstdude> what would I use in linux
[22:13] <abstrakt> rosco, lol well then you fail
[22:13] <lifestream> GUYS leave rosco alone,  please stop the philosophy
[22:14] <abstrakt> rosco, HTML is like, the easiest of all the computer languages to learn
[22:14] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Cracking wireless is offtopic here.
[22:14] <tar-> erUSUL/losha: wouldn't that mean that i cannot install applications that uses hardware in that directory?
[22:14] <erUSUL> rosco: then use kompozer (as the text said )
[22:14] <LinuxGuy2009> #backtrack
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> html is not a languaje xD
[22:14] <nsadmin> rosco: then you won't be able to have fine-level control over your site
[22:14] <abstrakt> besides the fact that Dreamweaver sucks, nvu/kompozer sucks more
[22:14] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: is it 8 digits 0-9, A-F ?
[22:14] <erUSUL> tar-: no it only means that /dev/ cannot be in that directory
[22:14] <abstrakt> PeterDrop_, um, actually it is
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop_: sure it is ;)
[22:14] <abstrakt> PeterDrop_, Hyper Text Markup LANGUAGE
[22:14] <erUSUL> tar-: no it only means that /dev/ cannot be in that filesystem
[22:14] <rosco> ALL:  i've tried and tried.  and will continue to try.  i'm just too stupid.  seriously
[22:14] <abstrakt> wtf
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop_: +1 to abstrakt
[22:14] <tar-> erUSUL: aha :)
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> haha
[22:14] <PeterDrop_> ok
[22:15] <PeterDrop_> whjat about the..  We are a *help* channel first and foremost...
[22:16] <maco> abstrakt: hey be nice
[22:16] <lifestream> rosco please forgive the behavior of these people, don't pay attention to them,  seems theyre not in a good mood today
[22:16] <maco> abstrakt: my mum and brother do just fine with ubuntu (its easier than windows, after all :P) but are far from techies
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> same here
[22:17] <rosco> ALL:  i didn't see the comments. too focused on the real issue.  sorry
[22:17] <nsadmin> rosco: I got what you said as "I don't want to learn html"
[22:17] <tar-> how do i get openssh-server to start up before a computer has been logged into so that i don't have to manually walk over to my other computer and log in before i can ssh into it?
[22:17] <rosco> i'm kewl
[22:17] <abstrakt> maco, knowing how to click a close button isn't what i'm talking about when i say "use ubuntu"
[22:17] <abstrakt> anyway, enough comedy for now
[22:17] <linx|> what an idiot
[22:17] <PeterDrop_> :o
[22:17] <maco> linx|: be nice
[22:17] <LinuxGuy2009> hehe
[22:17] <linx|> maco: heh ;-)
[22:18] <stryk3r> losha sorry i didn't respond, had to go afk
[22:18] <maco> what is so hard about being excellent to each other?
[22:18] <Barnabas> linx|, just be happy you have the knowledge other would kill for :-)
[22:18] <erUSUL> tar-: openssh starts with the system. probably the problem is the network. network manager will only connect when you log in
[22:18] <Barnabas> others
[22:18] <lifestream> rosco,  im sorry i made a mistake, it doesnt seem screem  lets you edit what you see
[22:18] <isolat3dsh33p> did they merge #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic? :/
[22:18] <linx|> rosco: try bluefish, though it tends to be a bit "technical" still (like a lot of open source software)
[22:18] <Losha> maco: for some people. it's apparently impossible...
[22:18] <_pg_> isolat3dsh33p: niiice
[22:18] <erUSUL> !info kompozer | rosco
[22:18] <bryanr> My visual studio 2010 ultimate is installing everything! but i did a custom install in hope to avoid that. :(  this seems to happen with all the visual studio or SDKs from Microsoft
[22:18] <tar-> erUSUL: i see, so i should get the network manager to load the interfaces before logon then ?
[22:18] <nsadmin> maco: it's just too Kianu Reeves...
[22:18] <erUSUL> tar-: yes
[22:19] <tar-> erUSUL: you're a goldmine ;)
[22:19] <Noeve> Morning all. I'm currently running an older version of Kubuntu, and would like to get rid of that and install the new Ubuntu on top. Is there an easy way to do this, or should I just burn a CD and wipe clean ?
[22:19] <LinuxGuy2009> (nsadmin: maco: it's just too Kianu Reeves...) My thoughts exactly. ha
[22:19] <Losha> stryk3r: is it working yet?
[22:19] <maco> linx|: bluefish is just a text editor with a file list on the side :P it doesnt really do much special....
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Noeve
[22:19] <erUSUL> tar-: or use /etc/network/interfaces (if it is a wired connection it is the best option)
[22:19] <stryk3r> installing that last dependency
[22:19] <nsadmin> but it's good to be excellent
[22:19] <maco> Noeve: you could install ubuntu-desktop and then...
[22:19] <nsadmin> or it's excellent to be good...
[22:19] <Noeve> ActionParsnip, will that even apply from Kubuntu ?
[22:19] <maco> !puregnome | Noeve
[22:19] <nsadmin> or something :)
[22:19] <Barnabas> maco, I really do not think that static HTML is THAT hard. Javascript and css aside, what is the really big problems you face ?
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: its usually quicker to clean install if you are running something like intrepid
[22:19] <maco> Noeve: and then upgrade a bunch...
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: kubuntu is ubuntu with a different front, its the same OS
[22:20] <maco> Barnabas: hmm? ive been doing html for 13 years...
[22:20] <Barnabas> ok
[22:20] <linx|> maco: good point. I'm not thinking of bluefish, I'm thinking of Nvu
[22:20] <stryk3r> Losha, running it again now
[22:20] <Noeve> Yep, but I've struggled with changing from Gnome to KDE and back a few times.
[22:20] <BrutusGosdric> hi all. i'm new to linux, so i dunno if i'm comfortable editing xorg just yet. can someone tell me how to setup twinview in metamodes, so that my screens are like one big screen?
[22:20] <tar-> erUSUL: thx :)
[22:20] <alien260> a good alternative for web development is aptana http://www.aptana.com/
[22:20] <thefirstdude> .
[22:20] <Noeve> Wondering if there's a painless way to do it, or if it's safer to just burn a disc.
[22:20] <maco> Barnabas: however someone was looking for a WYSIWYG editor and so bluefish wasnt the right suggestion
[22:20] <nsadmin> knowing html in a direct way adds power and expression
[22:20] <Navegadorx> linux is power
[22:20] <PeterDrop_> like i said, aptana rocks
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> notepad++ too anyway
[22:21] <BrutusGosdric> i want to do it from nvidia-settings. anyone think they can help me?
[22:21] <erUSUL> back on topic?? please
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Navegadorx: it can be as powerful as you make it, like any OS
[22:21] <stryk3r> Losha, http://pastebin.org/171239 another error :@
[22:21] <Navegadorx> creaty channel
[22:21] <Barnabas> maco, WISIWYG editors will limit you on any platform
[22:21] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, there's notepad++ for linux?
[22:21] <maco> Noeve: or you can install from an ubuntu cd and choose manual partition and choose to use the same partition but tell it to NOT format, and then itll keep your home directory
[22:21] <maco> Barnabas: i agree, but if that's what the person wants...
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> i dont know
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> is my very first time on linux
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> BrutusGosdric: easy. run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings    setup the screen then click "save to x config file"
[22:21] <PeterDrop_> :D
[22:21] <Noeve> maco, sounds like the easiest option, yeah. Thanks.
[22:22] <linx|> rosco: try nvu (now known as KompoZer)
[22:22] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[22:22] <Noeve> ActionParsnip, thanks also - and awesome handle.
[22:22] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, there's none then. :/
[22:22] <maco> z3r0-c001: /join
[22:22] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[22:22] <Losha> stryk3r: apt-get install libxml2-dev libxml++1.0-dev
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Noeve: its a harry hill joke :D  thanks
[22:22] <BrutusGosdric> ActionParsnip, but im not 100% sure how to setup the metamodes in nvidia-settings
[22:22] <Noeve> :)
[22:23] <PeterDrop_> ubottu any upgrade for nvidia sound cards? xD
[22:23] <bryanr> wtf
[22:23] <bryanr> oh sorry
[22:23] <stryk3r> ty Losha
[22:23] <bryanr> but this is april 23rd. and you are releasing a new ubuntu april 29th. is it worth upgrading when it comes out?
[22:23] <zenergi> If two users are logged into a server, how can 1 user see the shell commands the other user is entering?
[22:23] <maco> zenergi: by being root and then doing some magic
[22:24] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: 10.04 will be an LTS (long term support) release. Kind of a big one.
[22:24] <zenergi> maco: ok with step one, what kind of mojo?
[22:24] <erUSUL> zenergi: no easily. the spied user can use screen a share the session
[22:24] <Losha> stryk3r: this is why no-one installs from source if they can help it...
[22:24] <zenergi> maco: echo pts/1?
[22:24] <PeterDrop_> isolat3dsh33p http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/nppLinux.php
[22:24] <stryk3r> Losha, lol: configure: error: * SQLite 3.0 of hoger kan niet gevonden worden (is het pakket sqlite3-devel wel geinstalleerd?).
[22:24] <stryk3r>  so install SQLite 3.0 ?
[22:24] <SeaPhor> zenergi, screen +x
[22:24] <maco> zenergi: ive never tried it as ive always been teh only person on my system
[22:24] <guntbert> zenergi: ps can show you all running processes including command lines
[22:24] <maco> zenergi: but yes that sounds likely as i know the devices are the way in
[22:24] <stryk3r> Losha, im not sure why im running it as a script, he had told me to do it that way for some reason
[22:24] <__mikem> I am running ubuntu 10.04 rc in vmware fusion 3 and when I get to the gdm login screen, the keyboard isn't working
[22:25] <isolat3dsh33p> PeterDrop_, it's not native linux. :/
[22:25] <SeaPhor> zenergi, screen is a shared terminal/ssh session
[22:25] <PeterDrop_> where i can find changelog beteen releases?
[22:25] <LinuxGuy2009> __mikem:vmware issue most likely
[22:25] <PeterDrop_> yes, i was reading that
[22:25] <zenergi> seaphor: thanks, I'm reading up on the man now
[22:25] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, and to upgrade to 10.04, is automatic?
[22:25] <Losha> stryk3r: I don't think you have any choice. Those packages are not available precompiled...
[22:25] <erkan^> :)
[22:25] <__mikem> LinuxGuy2009: no, because the keyboard works fine if i log in through the terminal
[22:26] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: Be more specific with your question?
[22:26] <s_v_e_n> ? Im missing a key for the ubuntu-repository. where can I donwload the richt key for apt-key add ?
[22:26] <s_v_e_n> (I need it for a debootstraped lucid running in XEN)
[22:26] <stryk3r> Losha, I see. and how would I phrase that? sudo apt-get install sqlite3.0 ?
[22:26] <Losha> stryk3r: apt-get install libsqlite3-dev
[22:26] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, will there be an automatic update i can choose so i can keep my files?
[22:26] <SeaPhor> zenergi, it works well, i use it for common running cmds, and i use irssi so i run that in a screen then from work i can ssh in and join the screen in  progress
[22:26] <NucWin> hey anyone able to help me get ppp over bluetooth working on 10.04? seems there isnt support for dialup by default?
[22:26] <stryk3r> thanks
[22:26] <maco> zenergi: cat on teh device works
[22:26] <tar-> erUSUL: I've also mounted additional drives meant to contain files reached through sftp, these are mounted in /media/... although chmod 777 to get write permissions without being root seems somewhat .. wrong, is acl the way to go here?
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> bryanr: Yeah it should tell you in 6 days when it comes out if you want to upgrade
[22:27] <bryanr> LinuxGuy2009, that is great!
[22:27] <Losha> stryk3r: basically, I run apt-cache search sqlite3 and then make an educated guess among the alternatives...
[22:27] <zenergi> SeaPhor: yes, that sounds very useful, thanks for the tip!
[22:27] <maco> SeaPhor: i thought that to share a screen session you had to be the same user?
[22:27] <guntbert> NucWin: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[22:27] <NucWin> kk thanks
[22:27] <zenergi> maco: thanks, i didn't think of that one either
[22:27] <LinuxGuy2009> !upgrade | bryanr
[22:28] <litropy> hi, all. no matter what I choose using sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, I'm still presented with what looks like a gnome login panel, which doesn't have the option to switch session managers, and I'm stuck in KDE. All I want to do is switch my session manager to gnome. In gnome, this is easy. you just go to the login screen prefpane under system and choose from a dropdown containing all the...
[22:28] <litropy> ...installed session managers. I cannot find something like that in kde. Please help me switch from kde to gnome and thank you in advance.
[22:28] <erUSUL> tar-: chmod is fine but 777 may be to permisive. you can create a group for the people that will be accessing the files and give perm to that gropu....
[22:28] <zuzie> hi again :)
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tar-: you mount partitions, not drives
[22:28] <PeterDrop_> !repositories
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> tar-: are the partitions formatted NTFS?
[22:29] <tar-> ActionParsnip: pardon me, partitions it is
[22:29] <thefirstdude> OMG, I waited like 1 hour for stupid msg <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Cracking wireless is offtopic here.
[22:29] <maco> litropy: what you pick when you do the dpkg-reconfigure does not determine what session you login to
[22:29] <PeterDrop_> hehe !<- nice xD
[22:29] <tar-> ActionParsnip: ext4
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I am on crapy network I wanna connect to home network
[22:29] <maco> litropy: it only determines what login screen you get
[22:29] <stryk3r> Losha,  DBUS-Glib 0.60 is the next dependency. I did the apt-cache search and it gave me a couple of different ones, not sure which is which
[22:29] <thefirstdude> this is for proof of concept
[22:29] <tar-> erUSUL: thx, 644?
[22:29] <thefirstdude> http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0
[22:29] <maco> litropy: i checked and i was wrong, and kdm *does* have a dropdown to pick between gnome & kde
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tar-: hmm, ext4 should carry over the ownerships so should be ok, 777 is really unsecure
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I need to connect using 8 digit pin and I am on linux
[22:29] <SeaPhor> zenergi, maco is correct,,, have to be logged in as same user
[22:29] <thefirstdude> I donno why it matter but it is only numbers 0-9
[22:29] <litropy> maco: but this is *not* kdm
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> tar-: you could chown the data to your user to give it access
[22:29] <thefirstdude> and I am not cracking ofcourse
[22:29] <erUSUL> !permissions | tar-
[22:30] <maco> litropy: can you get it back to kdm?
[22:30] <LinuxGuy2009> !OMG | thefirstdude
[22:30] <Losha> stryk3r: first choice is always any package ending in -dev. Try libdbus-glib-1-dev
[22:30] <maco> litropy: like i said in #kubuntu it wont change what login screen you see til you reboot after a reconfigure. a log out is not enough
[22:30] <zenergi> is there a preferred method for a root shell user to watch/spy on other shell user commands/history/etc?
[22:30] <stryk3r> Losha, kay thanks a lot!
[22:30] <littlebear> ubottu: sigh,
[22:30] <pakete> hi all
[22:31] <thefirstdude> so can someone help me?
[22:31] <tar-> ActionParsnip: the disks are currently empty, i was wondering what "best practice" was :)
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> zenergi: yuo can read the users ~/.bash_history file
[22:31] <zenergi> I noticed that cat /dev/pts/# hangs the terminal
[22:31] <tar-> ubottu: thx :)
[22:31] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: if it is 0-9 and a-f, then its hex, and we're at least a little closer to understanding that that pin is
[22:31] <litropy> maco: no. no matter what I choose in sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm, I'm still presented with a buttonless login pane with gnome's default background.
[22:31] <LinuxGuy2009> !anyone | thefirstdude
[22:31] <pakete> can someone suggest why plymouthd crashes and why there is no boot splash???
[22:31] <pakete> tia
[22:31] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: good idea, thanks
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> tar-: ext4 will be fine, its ntfs you need special stuff for. 777 is very not best practice
[22:31] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: do you know if it is a wep or a wpa network?
[22:31] <maco> litropy: even after reboot? ok then drop to a tty and do "sudo stop gdm; sudo start kdm"
[22:31] <zuzie> guess what I never thought that I already fixed it as at reboot it came on nicely :P i simply reinstalled all the acpi packages and removed hibernation from /etc/default/acpi-support :)
[22:32] <thefirstdude> bondiblueos9,  go to http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6835.0 to at least understand what I am talking about
[22:32] <thefirstdude> it explains it in full
[22:32] <switchgirl> what command to use to get rhythmbox to play a radio station?
[22:32] <litropy> maco: how?
[22:32] <maco> litropy: ctrl+alt+f1
[22:32] <maco> litropy: save what youre doing first as itll log you out
[22:32] <litropy> maco: doing ...
[22:33] <LinuxGuy2009> litropy: CTRL+ALT+F1 , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[22:33] <stryk3r> Losha, think im getting the hang of it :)
[22:33] <stryk3r> this one download is 72mb but i guess its still needed
[22:33] <Losha> stryk3r: :-). Are you German?
[22:34] <stryk3r> Losha, Nope. But my friend is from the Netherlands, the one that wrote this, I guess that's why its giving the error feedback in german?
[22:34] <pakete> can somebody help with plymouth??? when i use live usb it boots fine. as soon as i install over the hd, it has no boot splash...it boots with black screen and some text, any ideas what can be done?
[22:34] <stryk3r> Losha, are you?
[22:34] <Losha> stryk3r: Ah, I wondered how come you sounded like a native. I'm British...
[22:34] <CortezTheKiller> i have a question about lucid... whats the room for that?
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[22:35] <stryk3r> I'm Puertorican :-)
[22:35] <CortezTheKiller> thanx LinuxGuy2009
[22:35] <thefirstdude> bondiblueos9,  its a WPA2 network
[22:35] <Losha> Lovely international channel...
[22:35] <LinuxGuy2009> I'm hillbillian 8-)
[22:35] <thefirstdude> but I don't know the pass phrase
[22:35] <thefirstdude> I only know the 8 digit pin
[22:35] <thefirstdude> and I CAN connect in windows
[22:35] <thefirstdude> so don't even go there
[22:35] <CortezTheKiller> Im a yankee :)
[22:35] <thefirstdude> I just need to know what to do to connect in linux
[22:36] <thefirstdude> if it is even possible
[22:36] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Why not just ask the owner of the router for the passkey?
[22:36] <JAMD456> I sometimes see an unusual blank program stuck on my dock that appears to do nothing but stay there. I am using Ubuntu 9.10 and Cario dock
[22:36] <csousa> i'm a portuguese
[22:36] <stryk3r> http://pastebin.org/171291 :O help! lol too much i dont understand
[22:36] <bondiblueos9> thefirstdude: according to the link you posted, you should be asking how to connect to a WPS router
[22:37] <thefirstdude> well, I am the owner
[22:37] <abadr> How do I automate installing postfix, since the package runs a setup script? Running apt-get with -y doesn't help.
[22:37] <csousa> lol
[22:37] <thefirstdude> and I don't the the key
[22:37] <erUSUL> !br | csousa
[22:37] <thefirstdude> ok, then pretend I am asking how to connect to wps router, can u help me now?
[22:38] <thefirstdude> I am not the pro here, that is why I am asking for help
[22:38] <LinuxGuy2009> (05:10:04 PM) thefirstdude: my sister has a quest wireless route. when I connect to it using windows it asks for 8 digit pin number on router box, how to convert that to linux
[22:38] <Losha> stryk3r: it's just more of the same, missing development libraries. Before we launch into this, maybe there's a easier way to do this.  Use factory settings and go from there.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> thefirstdude: you could connect via a wired connection and check the config
[22:40] <Losha> thefirstdude: keep a lid on it dude, we're all volunteers here...
[22:40] <erUSUL> Losha: hay i'm spanish myself. so ...
[22:41] <Losha> erUSUL: spanish and a Dune fan?
[22:41] <csousa> mi hermano
[22:41] <erUSUL> Losha: true :)
[22:41] <LinuxGuy2009> !manners | thefirstdude
[22:41] <bondiblueos9> !spelling
[22:42] <pad_s> isnt opera part of any of the standard ubuntu repositories !?
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> !opera | pad_s
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> pad_s: in short yes
[22:42] <thefirstdude> LinuxGuy2009, and you are the only one who makes me feel like you aren't a volunteer, rather a self hired people who need help hater
[22:43] <pad_s> ActionParsnip, thanks
[22:43] <thefirstdude> anyway thanks bondiblue for your help
[22:43] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: You need to have patience and understanding just like we do with you. Otherwise no one will help you.
[22:43] <TranceControl> Hey guys. Im trying to figure something out. I've gotten this script written (not that big of a deal), but i need to be able to exit putty (its on a linux server) and have it still running after i exit putty?
[22:43] <kanzie> Im trying to run fusbi on my ubuntu to make a bootable USB-drive for xbox-live but it requires the udev-package
[22:43] <kanzie> what is it named for apt-get?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: you need to employ screen on the server
[22:44] <guntbert> thefirstdude: please calm down and stay polite - we are no clairvoyants
[22:44] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Most routers have a reset switch on the back. Use it and you can setup a brand new WPA2 key. problem solved.
[22:44] <moreia> kanzie: you can search ubuntu packages directly
[22:44] <TranceControl> ActionParsnip, so i could do : screen for a in */*.rar; do unrar x "$a"; done
[22:44] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: applause
[22:44] <TranceControl> ?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: that will disrupt the currently connected/paired systems
[22:44] <z3r0-c001> #ubuntu+1
[22:45] <kanzie> moreia: how do I do that?
[22:45] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Ok so distrupting is worse than not being able to use the network?
[22:45] <stryk3r> Losha, a question, shouldn't the dependencies be installed by themselves if the script tells it too?
[22:45] <moreia> kanzie: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <kanzie> moreia: Imalready there
[22:45] <moreia> kanzie: but I don't see fsusbi at all.
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: no, yuo have a few screens on the server, when you connect switch to another screen run your command, switch back to the first screen then disconnect and it will keep running
[22:45] <kanzie> I just wish to find the name to run apt-get
[22:46] <moreia> kanzie: I just got here... was there more background that you gave?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: you can connect via a cable to view the settings without the need for wifi, you will then not disrupt or change anything
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> thefirstdude: Otherwise I would imagine you will still need the old WPA if you login with a cable and try and change it
[22:46] <TranceControl> ActionParsnip, oh .. wasnt aware of that. How do i switch to another screen ?.
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: less destructive
[22:46] <kanzie> moreia: Im trying to run fusbi on my ubuntu to make a bootable USB-drive for xbox-live but it requires the udev-package
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> TranceControl: i only know of it, ive never done it personally
[22:46] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: And when he is asked for the old WPA2 key he is supposed to enter what exactly?
[22:46] <moreia> kanzie: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=udev
[22:47] <moreia> kanzie: so I think the package really is just "udev"
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: the key will be visible via the wired connection in the routers config page so once the key is learned the cable can be disconnected and the wireless can be then connected to using the newly learned key
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: My bad your correct.
[22:47] <moreia> kanzie: apt-get install udev (or ... aptitude install udev)
[22:47] <ecrane> Hi, can someone tell me how to configure my ubuntu nfs server to start up in verbose mode? Need to trace back why windoze can't talk to it....
[22:47] <rosco> All:  sorry, i had a phone call about the website.
[22:47] <norbi905> Sorry to ask this here, but it is sort of Ubuntu related.  I'm planning to purchase an SSD drive.  Is there anything I should look out for?  Any issues in regarding running Ubuntu off of it?
[22:47] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip:  Yes your right.
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: instead of critisizing, try helping
[22:47] <erUSUL> ecrane: well windows does not support nfs out of the box
[22:48] <blocky> ActionParsnip I believe if you call screen whatever and then logout, you will detach from the screen but it will remain running, no?
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: You being a troll today too?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: if you help folks they tend to chill out. saying "chill out" makes people do the opposite
[22:48] <kanzie> moreia: says its already installed... bummer
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Chill out
[22:48] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: you could be seen as being a troll
[22:48] <moreia> Seriously, all of you. Knock it off.
[22:48] <LinuxGuy2009> bondiblueos9: You as well
[22:48] <ecrane> erUSUL: yeah well I installed 'nfs' services for windows per this article http://sagehacks.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/howto-mount-nfs-shares-under-windows-7/  I can connect to my NFS server from another unix box, so really want I want to do is start my NFS server with verbose mode and see if windows is even 'trying' to reach it. Do you know how to do that?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> blocky: not sure, ive heard people advise it ni the past. not something i use dude
[22:48] <bondiblueos9> LinuxGuy2009: well of course, just by mentioning trolling I can be one
[22:49] <LinuxGuy2009> I was mad cause of the attitude that thefirstdude was blowing off.
[22:49] <erUSUL> ecrane: no sorry; maybe in #ubuntu-server
[22:49] <ecrane> erUSUL: Ty, will ask there.
[22:49] <blocky> cool well in my experience you can essentially prepend your command with Screen and detach, then next login type screen -d -RR to detach anyone else and force reattachment to the first screen found
[22:49] <rosco> ALL:  thank you for your help!  i'm going to give Kompozer a try.  one more question?  what is the best way to buy a domain?
[22:50] <blocky> detach meaning logout
[22:50] <LinuxGuy2009> !godaddy
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: exactly, so if you let it slide then you will be more productive, by retaliating you only exacerbate the situation
[22:50] <blocky> I'm not sure the original asker is still here
[22:50] <rosco> ALL:  godaddy.com?  but after buying it, i can just post to it?
[22:50] <timposey> when I set up my computer for desktop sharing, how do I view it from another computer?  Is it with through the web browser or what?
[22:50] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Dude move on. Get a life
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> timposey: you need a vnc clientr
[22:50] <ecrane> timposey: You can use a VNC client
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: achieved
[22:50] <blocky> LinuxGuy2009 you are telling someone to get a life on a ubuntu support channel?
[22:50]  * bondiblueos9 claps
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> !attitude | LinuxGuy2009
[22:51] <moreia> Is there a "take it outside" ubottu command?
[22:51] <bondiblueos9> !troll
[22:51] <blocky> #cagematch
[22:51] <timposey> actionparsnip ecrane:  Thanks, I'll look for that.
[22:51] <LinuxGuy2009> I am a volunteer Your preaching to the choir
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> timposey: don't use it over the www without an ssh tunnel. vnc is not encrypted
[22:52] <_pg_> #littlegirlsissyfight
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> haha
[22:53] <LinuxGuy2009> Darn right
[22:53] <pirx|home> hello! does anyone here run ubuntu on a Dell laptop?
[22:53] <linx|> yes
[22:53] <_pg_> pirx|home: yes
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: Dell Mini 10v here.
[22:54] <pirx|home> any problems with that? (i am thinking about getting a vostro 3500)
[22:54] <linx|> pirx|home: various dells, including 9300 and 6400, d800 etc
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: Ask dell they will know.
[22:54] <SeaPhor> ActionParsnip is the cmd still "vncviewer -via username@IPAddress IPAddress::Port "
[22:54] <LinuxGuy2009>  pirx|home: They may even sell one with it preinstalled.
[22:54] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: osx on it perhaps?
[22:54] <linx|> pirx|home: you should check the major components work, but dell are pretty good with ubuntu
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> _pg_:No never tired it
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: just buy a mac if you want to do that
[22:55] <pirx|home> i heard that Dell has (had?) a small partition somehow dedicated for the BIOS. is it like that still?
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> yuk
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> SeaPhor: not used it dude, i think vnc is very OTT for most users need
[22:55] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: try it. it is stupid easy. and awesome
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: hackintosh is just too painful.
[22:55] <LinuxGuy2009> pirx|home: never heard of that before
[22:55] <_pg_> linx|: usually yes, but on these dell minis it runs like a dream
[22:55] <linx|> _pg_: ugly hardware, inability to update, yadda yadda
[22:56] <blocky> pirx|home Often dell laptops will contain recovery or media center partitions
[22:56] <_pg_> linx|: ugly hardware is dells fault, and my mini9 runs latest everything. 10.6.3
[22:56] <LinuxGuy2009>  _pg_: Dont I have to have a Mac to make the USB key?
[22:56] <linx|> _pg_: which mini ?
[22:56] <linx|> k
[22:56] <avis> you can't even copy and paste with a mac :/  it boggles the mind
[22:56] <avis> oops cut and paste
[22:56] <_pg_> LinuxGuy2009: hmmm maybe. I dont know. lol I did for mine but Im sure there are other ways
[22:56] <linx|> avis: of course you can
[22:56] <_pg_> avis: seriously?
[22:56] <arand> pirx|home: Dell normally has a diagnostics partition, recovery, windows, and possibly mediadirect partitions. I don't know how they implement the w7 boot partition.
[22:56] <linx|> avis: yes you can
[22:56] <avis> with a script ?
[22:57] <_pg_> avis: are you serious?
[22:57] <linx|> you can cut and paste easily from most apps
[22:57] <hardran3> command-X, command-V
[22:57] <linx|> howver, you cant cut files
[22:57] <avis> offtopic
[22:57] <linx|> (wtf does cutting files mean anyway?)
[22:57] <_pg_> avis: lmfao
[22:57] <avis> laught all you want
[22:57] <avis> offtopic
[22:57] <LinuxGuy2009> pirx|home: Call Dell or get online chat with them and ask what models support Ubuntu. They will know.
[22:58] <_pg_> avis: why in the world would osx not have cut/copy/paste?
[22:58] <avis> i'm staying on topic
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> _pg_: mac os is offtopic here
[22:58] <_pg_> avis: !turtle
[22:58] <LinuxGuy2009> grrrr
[22:58] <blocky> linx|cut removes from the original location when it pastes to the new one, copy retains the original as well
[22:58] <pzn> I'm using ubuntu 9.10 alternate CD. I opted for encrypted root filesystem. now it is asking me about "encrypted private home". I think I should answer "no", because I'm the only user of this notebook and root is already encrypted. is my way of thinking ok?
[22:59] <ArkoldThos> heya, I just got a problem with current Ubuntu and 10.04 - both doesn't detect (with nvidia-settings) the dual monitor (using recommended nvidia drivers)
[22:59] <emet> what time is it PST right now
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | ArkoldThos
[22:59] <ArkoldThos> ActionParsnip, with both not just with Lynx :) plus with Debian Squeeze
[22:59] <mcbelme> Spanish
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> pzn: may as well, makes the whole lot encrypted then
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ArkoldThos: lucid isn't discussed here at all
[23:00] <arand> !es | mcbelme
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Dual headed card?
[23:00] <pzn> ActionParsnip: answering "yes" will only make things slower...crypt-over-crypt, ok?
[23:00] <litropy> hi, peeps.  When I click Unlock, nothing happens. No authpane, no window state change.
[23:00] <ArkoldThos> LinuxGuy2009, yeap, it worked before (with an old installation I had like a year ago)
[23:00] <ArkoldThos> since then I didn't tried again
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> pzn: your call dude, ive not used encryptfs
[23:01] <arand> pzn: Are you creating separae /home and / ?
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Did you look in nvidia x server settings?
[23:01] <arand> pzn: *separate
[23:01] <avis> have a nice day
[23:01] <pzn> arand: no, just / and swap partitions. I have some important things, mainly at /var/lib/postgres that can't be read if my notebook gets lost.
[23:02] <pzn> arand: and it automatically created /boot too
[23:02] <heroid> has any of you guys updated from 9.10 to 10.04 RC yet?
[23:02] <heroid> and does it crash
[23:03] <LinuxGuy2009> !lucid
[23:03] <pzn> heroid: maybe you'd better ask at channel #ubuntu+1
[23:03] <arand> pzn: I would assume that full / encryption would encrypt /home as well in that case. But I haven't used ecryptfs either, sorry.
[23:03] <pzn> arand: ok, I'll keep assuming that, finish the install and then check
[23:04] <[crt]> I have installed Ubuntu Karmic for 2 users who both have an Atheros wireless chip (using ath9k driver). Both of these users are having a very low wireless signal and frequently disconnects. They didn't seem to have this problem in Windows 7. I use another linux distribution on a laptop and a netbook which both also use ath9k drivers for the Atheros chipset and do not experience these wireless problems myself; but I do use kernel 2.6.33 so maybe this could be why.
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> [crt]: the 33 kernel isnt supported here
[23:05] <[crt]> ActionParsnip: maybe not, but at least 2.6.32 ?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> [crt]: absolutely as it is on the official repos
[23:05] <andruk> is there a linux alternative to http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/map-your-homes-wifi-signal-strength-with-heatmapper/
[23:05] <[crt]> ActionParsnip: Ah, I'll give that a try then. Thanks a lot. :)
[23:06] <engie> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ecryptfs home directory from another (dead) machine. I have the passphrase, and the mount appears to work fine, but the directory that is mounted shows the files from my *local* encrypted home directory. How can I force it to use the external .Private as the lower dir ?
[23:06] <ArkoldThos> LinuxGuy2009, why did you ask if the card is dual head? :o
[23:07] <LinuxGuy2009> ArkoldThos: Cause I did.
[23:07] <erUSUL> [crt]: try installing the backported wireless modules
[23:08] <erUSUL> !info linux-backports-modules-wireless-karmic-generic | [crt]
[23:08] <Tophu> ok I need a little help. I managed to get the touchscreen working on my tablet. and even got the screen to rotate 180 when I fold it town into tablet mode but the mouse inputs didn't spin 180 with it ... anyone know how to do this?
[23:08] <norbi905> I'm about to purchase an SSD drive.  Planning to install Ubuntu on it, is there anything I should look for in regards to compatibility?
[23:08] <[crt]> erUSUL: Great, I'll look into those, thanks.
[23:09] <erUSUL> norbi905: no; ssd look like hard disks to all OS's
[23:09] <brah-> I had a nightmare I accidently uninstalled ubuntu, fortunately when I wokeup I realized I never installed it in the first place
[23:10] <erUSUL> ...
[23:10] <norbi905> erUSUL, Thanks.  From the little research that i'v done, it was suggested to put /boot /bin /usr/bin on the SSD, and everything else on magnetic drive.  Does this sounds ideal?
[23:10] <SpamapS> brah-: were there trolls in your nightmare too?
[23:10]  * erUSUL smelly troll is unsuccesfull
[23:10] <SpamapS> ;)
[23:10] <SeaPhor> Tophu, if you don't find the answer by tuesday, i'll ask our cert-team if they had issues on the HP-Tablet , i know they ran certification on it
[23:11] <erUSUL> norbi905: it depends on the workload i suppose.
[23:11] <bondiblueos9> if I'm booted up, and I have a scsi device recognized and working and all; can I unplug it and plug it back in, and still have it working?
[23:11] <Tophu> sweet I'm at the level were I can follow guides on teh forums except when they have me compile stuff cause that always errors out for me
[23:11] <brah-> no need for hostility, i'm sure one day linux will reach that 1% total market share it's been striving for this last decade
[23:11] <gigawatt> hi
[23:11] <PeterDrop> i just test the Lucid version and no sound, the advance: the sound card was detected, but no sound .. :(
[23:12] <Tophu> I'm not a complete nitwit (been using ubuntu off and on since 7.10) but just don't know the low level stuff
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> brah-: do you have a support question?
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> eveyone is a complete nitwit today
[23:12] <gigawatt> is there a way to install and OS to a hard drive in side a linux install
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> !nitwit
[23:12] <LinuxGuy2009> Tophu: debian new maintainers guide is good to learn basic compiling from source etc.
[23:12] <erUSUL> #/ignore -ALL -REPLY brah-
[23:12] <erUSUL> oops
[23:12] <bondiblueos9> lol
[23:12] <PeterDrop> LinuxGuy2009, no luck for me :8, no sound
[23:12] <SeaPhor> Tophu, if you want you can PM me, and i'll tell you where to look on tuesday
[23:12] <brah-> Action, no i'm just a fan of the ubuntu
[23:13] <LinuxGuy2009> !vbox | gigawatt
[23:13] <brah-> I like the jungle music
[23:13] <gigawatt> i mean more like i have a hard drive that i want to put in another computer but first i have to install linux on to in from my current linux install
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> brah-: this is a  pure support channel only
[23:13] <arand> brah-: For chat, head on over to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:14] <LinuxGuy2009> gigawatt: set vbox to use the physical drive and install.
[23:14] <techhelper1> virtualbox is free on all platforms
[23:14] <techhelper1> so idk why they put that in
[23:14] <PeterDrop> ActionParsnip, can u apointme in some direction in order to fix my sound problem
[23:14] <techhelper1> !free
[23:14] <gigawatt> ok thanks
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> PeterDrop: i am no good with sound dude, i havent had a single sound issue
[23:14] <joscht> for mediatomb does someone know how to refresh the database?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> techhelper1: theres also a nonfree version ;)
[23:14] <PeterDrop> :( ok
[23:14] <arand> techhelper1: free as in freedom/free as in beer ;)
[23:15] <techhelper1> ActionParsnip: but what does it do different from free though
[23:15] <sebsebseb> brah-:  Ubuntu,  Fedora,  Mandriva, PC Linux OS, and quite a lot of other Desktop Linux distro's out there as well,  I expect together they have a bit more than 1% market share already.  Also when it comes to other aspects of computing, most of today's web servers are run using Apache on a Linux distro.  Plus most super computer users run Linux.  Yes not everyone in the Linux camp likes Ubuntu, and not everyone who has tried it liked it, but
[23:15] <sebsebseb> trolling it's support channel as a result, is rather silly really.
[23:15] <brah-> sebsebseb spam is offtopic, please focus on support only, thanks!
[23:15] <TheMozart> when does the latest ubuntu come out?
[23:16] <acicula> 29th
[23:16] <LinuxGuy2009> !troll | brah-
[23:16] <TheMozart> ok cool 1 more week
[23:16] <brah-> heres a better one
[23:16] <brah-> !define troll
[23:16] <brah-> troll is a term used by incompentant socially inept angry individuals who've recently loss a dicussion, and feel cornered, and borderline sucidal, they thought self projecting their inner fail would result in a moment of levity, and they thought wrong
[23:16] <FloodBot2> brah-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:16] <sebsebseb> !ops | brah trolling
[23:16]  * erUSUL raise his "Do *not* feed the troll" sign
[23:16] <futurama140> How can I run an EXE from a textbook CD meant for windows? I have wine installed, but I don't know how to accomplish this specific task.
[23:17] <brah-> !ops | sevsebseb trolling
[23:17] <acicula> futurama140: double click in nautilus or do a wine <exefile>
[23:17] <acicula> brah-: can you stp