[08:59] <Hello_> musca, well.. where the shared folder mounts in VB..
[09:02] <tones> so which interface installs with sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop?
[09:03] <auronandace> tones: unity
[09:03] <tones> so that's why, thanks
[09:03] <musca> Hello_:  in the guest:  start \\vboxsrv
[09:05] <musca> Hello_: Do you you see it?
[09:05] <zoke_web> does new macbook air work with ubuntu? especially the wlan (bcm4360)?
[09:06] <auronandace> !mac | zoke_web
[09:06] <Hello_> musca,  no..
[09:06] <auronandace> !b43 | zoke_web
[09:07] <musca> Hello_: use "virtualbox" to fix your VMs networksettings.
[09:08] <Hello_> Which option i should go for ?............ not connected, NAT, Bridged, Internal,Host-Only....
[09:08] <Hello_> musca, Which option i should go for ?............ not connected, NAT, Bridged, Internal,Host-Only....
[09:10] <musca> well, just guess. your chance is 4:1 that it works.
[09:10] <auronandace> Hello_: your network settings have nothing to do with mounting a shared folder on your guest (unless your mount is from another network)
[09:11] <Hello_> I worked with NOT CONNECTED and HOST-ONLY.. No use
[09:13] <musca> Hello_:  please run: explorer.exe /e,\\Vboxsvr
[09:14] <hamidrr> hi folks i have ubuntu and facebook is filtered how can i go to facebook its realy hard for me pleaaaaaase help
[09:15] <cbryant> hamidrr: why is facebook filtered "blocked/censored"?
[09:15] <hamidrr> censored i dont  know for sure the government is dump cbryant
[09:16] <dalinou> i keep failing to connect to /dev/ttyACM0 with Gammu (for samsung player one), with no specific error, just failure of connection; can someone help please?
[09:16] <cbryant> hamidrr: research proxy servers : google
[09:17] <Hello_> musca, you mean it to enter \\Vboxsvr in windows EXPLORER
[09:17] <hamidrr> i tried ssl proxy servers
[09:17] <hamidrr> i tried ssl proxy servers cbryant
[09:17] <cbryant> hamidrr: and your issue?
[09:18] <ikonia> hamidrr: we are not going to help you circumvent your providers policies
[09:19] <musca> i meant it literal to get a result
[09:19] <hamidrr> it says cookie required and brings nothing cbryant
[09:19] <steveccc> apologies for this question - I know its off topic - using skype on ubuntu and I wondered if anyone from the uk here uses a subscription - I wanted to know what is classed as a landline number - is it just the standard area codes and not 0845 numbers etc?
[09:20] <sammo> why ubuntu installer create primary partition for /home ?
[09:20] <ikonia> steveccc: if you know it's offtopic, please don't ask
[09:20] <cbryant> hamidrr: all I can advise you is to research google, thats not a discussion for this chat.
[09:20] <sammo> that's crazy
[09:20] <ikonia> steveccc: try #ubuntu-uk for UK users
[09:20] <ikonia> sammo: nothing crazy about it
[09:21] <sammo> ikonia , why does /home have to be primary partition?
[09:21] <ikonia> sammo: it doesn't have to be
[09:21] <steveccc> ikonia: apologies - i just think as we are all techies and that there isnt an exact room on here that people wouldnt mind
[09:21] <hamidrr> ok i think im alone after all thanks cbryant  bye
[09:21] <ikonia> steveccc: ubuntu-uk would be a good place
[09:22] <sammo> but why the default is primary and it doesn't have any option for user to change it
[09:22] <ikonia> sammo: there are options if you chose custom layout
[09:22] <ikonia> sammo: why is it a problem that it's a primary partition ?
[09:23] <keycompany> hello
[09:23] <sammo> ikonia , only 4 primary partion is allowed in any system
[09:23] <ikonia> sammo: so ?
[09:23] <Castling> q: ubuntus video quality seems drastically better than that of win 7 using the same hardware and videos, in both vlc and youtube, is there an explanation for such a gulf in quality? Is ubuntu just more efficient?
[09:23] <sammo> and ubuntu installer has used them all
[09:23] <ikonia> Castling: different codec
[09:23] <ikonia> sammo: again, so ?
[09:24] <sammo> each partition ubuntu created is in primary partiton
[09:25] <Castling> in vlc even the opengl codec in windows doesnt match the quality i'm seeing. I'm stunned, bu
[09:25] <Castling> but happy
[09:25] <Castling> ;)
[09:26] <andrex> !ru > Castling
[09:26] <pyasi> guys, internet doesn't work in live session booted from the usb though the network is connected and there is ping in the router , but not in other sites, sorry for my bad english , please help me
[09:26] <andrex> oops sorry
[09:26] <cbryant> sammo: What is the problem? Why would you want to change?
[09:26] <ikonia> sammo: what is the actual problem ?
[09:27] <Castling> its in russian
[09:27] <ikonia> sammo: a.) accept ubuntu's suggested layout b.) chose manual and pick your own layout
[09:27] <sammo> all partition creatd by ubuntu are in primary and now i want to install other os
[09:27] <ikonia> sammo: ok - so select manual partition and lay it out how you want to
[09:28] <sammo> select manual partion from whrere?
[09:28] <hanso> oj
[09:28] <pyasi> guys, internet doesn't work in live session booted from the usb though the network is connected and there is ping in the router , but not in other sites, sorry for my bad english , please help me
[09:29] <Hello_> musca, WINDOWS cannot find \\vboxsvr
[09:29] <musca> yes, i understand.
[09:30] <musca> Hello_:  you usewd CLI to set the share. Did you check in GUI if it is configured?
[09:31] <cbryant> sammo: during installation you have option to create a custom partition table
[09:31] <Hello_> usewd CLI::::::::::::Is this a type of command, if so where should i issue?
[09:31] <quackgyver> Hi. I need to run Ubuntu as a virtualized guest system on my OSX computer for one single app, so I'm wondering if anyone could tell me the best way to run it as sort of a Kiosk, with minimal boot time?
[09:31] <quackgyver> Is there already such a distro? Or do I simply have to make it boot into CMD and subsequently into a lightweight WM?
[09:32] <musca> Hello_: why do you want command line interface (cli)? you can try gui with: virtualbox
[09:32] <cbryant> sammo: The normal gui button during install is clicking Something else when you get to Allocate drive space
[09:32] <quackgyver> kiosk*
[09:32] <loganlee> does ubuntu have ms-dos?
[09:32] <pyasi> guys, internet doesn't work in live session booted from the usb though the network is connected and there is ping in the router , but not in other sites, sorry for my bad english , please help me
[09:32] <pyasi> guys, internet doesn't work in live session booted from the usb though the network is connected and there is ping in the router , but not in other sites, sorry for my bad english , please help me
[09:33] <pZombie> i had to delete and move my swap file on ubuntu, now i am gettng virtual memory exhausted: Cannot allocate memory. How do i tell ubuntu to use my new swapfile that is on /dev/sda2 ?
[09:33] <chunkyhead> hey guys, is there a way to direct my internet speed at just once process
[09:33] <ikonia> pyasi: ping does not mean the internet is not working
[09:33] <Hello_> musca, what is this usewd ?
[09:33] <ikonia> pyasi: please stop asking the same question every 10 seconds.
[09:33] <sammo> cbryant, i have intalled ubuntu and now i'm using gparted to do partiton and realised all patition created by ubuntu is primary ! that's crazy
[09:33] <ikonia> sammo: it is NOT crazy
[09:34] <sammo> how can it be the default option is primary partition !
[09:34] <ikonia> sammo: you can select your partition layout at install time by selecting custom layout
[09:34] <ikonia> sammo: what do you mean "how can it be" - it's not a problem
[09:35] <Hello_> musca, what is this usewd ? where to see its configuration ?
[09:35] <cbryant> sammo: I recommend reinstalling ubuntu and creathing a custom partition layout including your ntfs patition for windows
[09:35] <cbryant> creating
[09:36] <sammo> cbryant , i have been using ubuntu for months now .....
[09:36] <sammo> can't reinstall
[09:36] <ikonia> sammo: then you'll need to maually migrate / change the partition layout
[09:36] <ikonia> sammo: it will require you to be careful and take some backups
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> should have backups anyway
[09:38] <sammo> it's mind blowing that all partitions crated are in primary ! my god ! windows will never do that
[09:38] <cbryant> sammo: you can use gparted to resize your partition but backing up essential data and reinstalling is prefered method.
[09:38] <Ben64> sammo: uh, yes windows will do that
[09:38] <ikonia> sammo: it's not mind blowing, please stop making these silly comments as it won't help
[09:38] <ikonia> sammo: and windows does create primary partitions by defualt - so stop making things up and focus on resolving your issue
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> sammo: actually, Windows DOES do that
[09:38] <leto> Hi, how to make an install of ubuntu raring 13.04 with an encrypted LVM (luks) and a separate home? It seems the desktop installer doesn't separate it.
[09:38] <lessless> is it possible to make an each monitor in separate workspace?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> leto: you could use gparted in the live desktop to setup the disks, then run the installer
[09:39] <musca> Hello_: in virtualbox GUI press CTRL-S to see specs of your vm
[09:40] <musca> then it's in the left column at the bottom
[09:41] <leto> ActionParsnip: I know how to create primary and logical partition with gparted, but not LVM partitions, nor how to use them in LUKS when I run the installer
[09:41] <ikonia> leto: lvm doesn't have partition types
[09:42] <Hello_> LEFT-SIDE-  under shared folders - i have confgiured HOST folder to be configured..
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> leto: never used LVM tbh, is there a how to guide
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> !lvm
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> ^ may help
[09:42] <Hello_> musca_LEFT-SIDE-  under shared folders - i have confgiured HOST folder to be configured..
[09:43] <leto> ikonia: so how should I do? I believe it needs a lvm flag at least
[09:43] <Hello_> musca_LEFT-SIDE-  under shared folders - i have confgiured HOST folder that to be hared ..
[09:43] <ikonia> leto: no - that's for pv's not lv's
[09:43] <praveen___> hello all. how do i install balsaming (a wire-framing tool) on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:44] <praveen___> hello all. how do i install balsamig (a wire-framing tool) on ubuntu 12.04?
[09:44] <musca> Hello_: good. Did you try a reboot of the guest after configuring the share?
[09:44] <ikonia> praveen___: repeating a question in under 15 seconds is not a good start
[09:44] <ikonia> !repeat | praveen___
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: do you mean balsamiq?
[09:44] <praveen___> actually there was a spelling mistake.
[09:45] <praveen___> thats why i had to repeat.
[09:45] <praveen___> yes
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: seems to be an Adobe Air product....is that right>
[09:45] <sammo> i believe i used the custom installation and i dont remember there's option for making /home a logical partition
[09:45] <praveen___> yes it is.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: i found this http://superuser.com/questions/511328/how-to-install-balsamiq-on-ubuntu-12-10
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: however http://www.zdnet.com/adobe-drops-air-for-linux-due-to-lack-of-interest-4010022732/
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: adobe dropped Air support in Linux AGES ago
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: SO dont expect a smooth ride
[09:47] <leto> ikonia: thanks, so what should I do to create this lvm partition and install ubuntu in luks?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: I suggest you seek an alternative
[09:47] <ikonia> sammtsammo then either a.) you idn't pay attention b.) you didn't ust cusotm installation options - either way it won't fix your current problem
[09:47] <ikonia> leto: you need to create the pv and the lv from within the OS
[09:47] <praveen___> ActionParsnip: whats that?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: what's what?
[09:48] <Hello_> next,...
[09:48] <praveen___> ActionParsnip: the alternatve?
[09:48] <Hello_> musca,  no use..
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: no idea, seek and ye shall find
[09:49] <praveen___> ActionParsnip: any idea about pidoco?
[09:49] <leto> ikonia: ok I'm curently from the live installer, I assume I run gparted, then?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: none at all
[09:49] <musca> Hello_: which version of windows is it?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: never even heard of it
[09:49] <ikonia> leto: no, you need to do a pvcreate on a partition to bring it under lvm control
[09:49] <ikonia> leto: it maybe worth having a small read on using lvm before going any futher
[09:50] <praveen___> ActionParsnip: ok thank you. let me see the links you gave.
[09:50] <praveen___> ActionParsnip:  it is also a wire framing tool. i guess. i am looking for it too.
[09:51] <Hello_> musca_   WINDOWS-XP Professional servicePack2 on AMD Semptron 2.8Ghz, 145Semptron
[09:51] <selim> I did an upgrade a few hours ago but the upgrade failed due to missing space on the harddrive
[09:51] <selim> is there some way to repeat the upgrade process?
[09:51] <selim> aptitude upgrade shows 0 upgrades to do, someone any ideas?
[09:52] <Guest14392> hello
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> praveen___: blender, maybe?
[09:52] <Guest14392> I-m using sparky linux
[09:52] <musca> Hello_: my XP machine just does the trick. i use NAT.
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> selim: i suggest you use apt-get, aptitude has poor suport for multiarch
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> selim: I suggest you uninstall old unused kernels
[09:53] <musca> Hello_: i'm running out of ideas.
[09:53] <Guest14392> I want to definitely left windows for linux
[09:53] <Guest14392> but I need a very easy linux distro
[09:54] <DJones> Guest14392: Ubuntu is fairly easy to get the hang of
[09:54] <Ben64> Guest14392: you are in #ubuntu we may be biased here
[09:54] <Guest14392> please, can you help me in order to choose a very easy linux distro
[09:54] <Hello_> musca_ well, no probs.. thanks for the support.. Anyhow I will try on another XP version Service Pack3..
[09:54] <DJones> Guest14392: You also have the option of Lubuntu or Xubuntu if you have older or lower specifcation hardware
[09:54] <musca> Guest14392:  yes, and ubuntu has Nixie Pixel
[09:55] <Hello_> musca_ I thought I may handling it wrongly..
[09:55] <sample001> hello there how can i modify the result for iwlist command in ubuntu ?
[09:55] <Guest14392> I have a Pentium III-S 1,4 ghz  with  1,5 gb SDRAM PC133
[09:56] <selim> ActionParsnip: hmm if I uninstall old unused kernels I'm not sure if I can restart the sytem afterwards
[09:56] <selim> I would prefer to upgrade first an uninstall later
[09:57] <Guest14392> I need a very easy linux distro for my Pentium III-S 1,4 ghz with 1,5 gb SDRAM PC133
[09:57] <selim> ActionParsnip: is that possible someohow
[09:58] <sample001>  hello there how can i modify the result for iwlist command in ubuntu ? for example i only want to show the signal level. But not using grep command ?
[09:58] <Guest14392> fron
[09:59] <leto> ikonia: I've actually read some doc about lvm, especially https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm, but 1/it doesn't explain how to create the lvm partition ("You can create one with gparted or fdisk", that's all) 2/that's where I've read the need of an lvm flag ("In gparted, you need to check the lvm flag when creating the partition"), and you said it was wrong, if I've well understood
[09:59] <Guest14392> for my Pentium III-S 1,4 ghz with 1,5 gb of RAM which linux distrubution I have to choose?
[10:00] <pZombie> i would try xubuntu with those specs
[10:00] <DJones> !lubuntu | Guest14392
[10:00] <DJones> !xubuntu | Guest14392
[10:01] <pZombie> xubuntu is very easy to use and quite lightweight
[10:01] <DJones> Guest14392: I'd look at Lubuntu and Xubuntu, probably download the Live CD/USB and test them to see which worked best
[10:02] <Asad2005> Is there away to add a unity panle? If i have many apps open the bottom of the panel becomes clautter in is not nice
[10:02] <Guest14392> xubuntu or lubuntu? My PC has an ATI Radeon 9250 AGP 8x with 256 mb of RAM
[10:03] <kalakj> hello everyone
[10:03] <Hello_> Is there any support in UBUNTU 13.04 for ANDROID JellyBean  OS fo mobiles
[10:03] <kalakj> how to make fingerprint sensor make work in ubuntu
[10:03] <sample001>  hello there how can i modify the result for iwlist command in ubuntu ? for example i only want to show the signal level. But not using grep command ?
[10:04] <kalakj> i am using UBuntu 10.04.2
[10:04] <ctcb> Hi all, I'm wondering how I could contact Canoical about adding certain packages to Ubuntu 11.10 (Pre-Installed)?
[10:04] <sample001> #iwconfig
[10:04] <JuPaname> irc://irc.jupaname.fr/#!accueil!
[10:04] <DJones> Guest14392: Its better if you test both of them, its difficult to say which is best, its better if you test them yourself to see which suits you mose
[10:04] <kalakj> oh sorry, 12.04 LTS
[10:04] <cbryant_afk> Guest14392: Try Both, noone can give you a positive answer regarding which distro will run best on your system.
[10:05] <Ben64> !eol | ctcb
[10:05] <DJones> ctcb: 11.10 Desktop went end of life in May 2013, so its no longer supported, there I doubt there would be any chance at all of getting packages added
[10:05] <kalakj> hi, everyone, i have fingerprint sensor of authentic truesuite, itś working in Windows and how to make it work on UBUNTU 12.04 LTS
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> ctcb: yuocan upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is the next release, this will give you LTS support til April 2017
[10:05] <sample001> hello there how can i modify the result for iwlist command in ubuntu ? for example i only want to show the signal level. But not using grep command ?
[10:06] <ctcb> Oh, Oops. I meant 13.10, which is coming out later this year.
[10:06] <Guest14392> So, I surely cannot use UBUNTU or KUBUNTU on my Pentium III-S 1,4 ghz, 1,5 gb RAM, Ati Radeon 9250 AGP 8x 256 mb VRAM?
[10:06] <kalakj> Itś integrated in LAPTOP
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> sample001: why not grep?
[10:06] <ctcb> There's some packages that I think should be included with it, out of the box.
[10:06] <Hello_> Is there any support in UBUNTU 13.04 for ANDROID JellyBean  OS for mobiles
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ctcb: what in Oneiric?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Hello_: no as its not Ubuntu
[10:06] <auronandace> !13.10 | ctcb
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> ctcb: Saucy isn't supported here til release day
[10:07] <DJones> Hello_: Do you mean connecting an Android phone/device to Ubuntu to copy files to etc?
[10:08] <ctcb> ActionParsnip, I'm not asking for "Support"!
[10:08] <ctcb> I'm trying to get certain packages in it.
[10:08] <sample001> ActionParsnip: What i want is to update the iwlist source code because I want to make the result more faster.
[10:09] <Guest14392> and what about XUBUNTU or LUBUNTU derivates distributions?
[10:09] <Ben64> ctcb: 13.10 is still offtopic here, and its probably too late to get something in 13.10
[10:09] <kalakj> ubottu: What about finger print sensor recognisation in ubuntu, how to make it work
[10:09] <mementomori> is there a way to set a keyboard shortcut to "Tools > External > Qt Quick >  Preview (qmlscene)" in creator?
[10:09] <Hello_> ActionParsnip_  which Linux(FEDORA, OPENSUSE..) is supporting ANDROID-JB
[10:10] <DJones> ctcb: You're best chance might be to file it as a bug/wishlist request
[10:10] <kalakj> ActionParsnip: What about finger print sensor recognisation in ubuntu, how to make it work
[10:10] <sammo> can i run this chkdsk /f in ubuntu to fix windows partition ?
[10:11] <kalakj> why do people use linux when they are not able to use full hardware they have
[10:11] <mementomori> sorry wrong chan ;)
[10:11] <gordonjcp> kalakj: because it might do stuff they can't get with other OSes, and they might not care much about the hardware that isn't supported
[10:11] <loganlee> kalakj: curiosity maybe
[10:11] <gordonjcp> kalakj: that's more of a question for #ubuntu-offtopic though
[10:12] <pyasi> guys , internet doesn't work when i boot a live cd , there is network connection with my router, but no internet
[10:12] <pyasi> i had a disconnection , so asked you guys again
[10:13] <sammo> can i run this chkdsk /f in ubuntu to fix windows partition ?
[10:13] <ikonia> sammo: I'd advise not to
[10:13] <kalakj> gordonjcp: what kind of special stuff, most of open source applications are also available on Windows platform also, like mozilla, gimp, games etc
[10:13] <sebastian> I've got a really weird problem... I've done sudo usermod -a -G libvirtd <myusername>, but after opening a new shell, id doesn't show membership in libvirtd. What happened? How can I even diagnose it? Why was there no error?
[10:14] <sammo> ikonia , i used gparted to resize ntfs partition and now i can't boot up windows
[10:14] <gordonjcp> kalakj: this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <ikonia> sammo: why do you think chkdsk will fix it
[10:14] <kalakj> gordonjcp: professional application like, apache, mysql , etc , there exists windows installer for them
[10:14] <gordonjcp> kalakj: this is more a discussion for #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:14] <sammo> on ubuntu it say i muts use the chkdsk/f to fix it
[10:14] <ikonia> sammo: so boot from your windows install CD to chkdisk it
[10:14] <kalakj> gordonjcp: how could it be offtopic
[10:14] <Ben64> sammo: yeah, in windows
[10:15] <sample001> ActionParsnip: What i want is to update the iwlist source code because I want to make the result more faster.
[10:15] <kalakj> gordonjcp: what is the topic here
[10:15] <ikonia> sammo: although I don't know why ubuntu is telling you why your windows machine can't boot
[10:15] <gordonjcp> kalakj: is it a direct support question?
[10:15] <gordonjcp> kalakj: no - therefore, #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:15] <sammo> ikonoa , gparted say so
[10:15] <ikonia> sammo: gparted doesn't know about your windows boot problems
[10:15] <ikonia> sammo: however I'd suggest booting from your windows install media and running your chkdsk command
[10:15] <kalakj> gordonjcp: yes, my finger print authentication is not working
[10:16] <Ben64> it just says to use chkdsk because windows is best at fixing ntfs
[10:16] <sammo> itresize it and show the erro mesg
[10:16] <ikonia> sammo: resize is not boot
[10:16] <ikonia> sammo: you said it won't boot - resize is a different function
[10:16] <devoid> is anyone having problems with update-alternatives? for the last few days both my quantal and raring machines revert to the default x-terminal-emulator (konsole) every day. no problems before that.
[10:16] <Hello_> Can anyone give an idea about which linux distro has ANDRIOD-JellyBean support ?
[10:16] <ikonia> sammo: however same thing applies, run it from your windows install media
[10:16] <gordonjcp> kalakj: okay, that's *on-topic*, but discussing why people choose to use Linux isn't ;-)
[10:16] <ikonia> Hello_: nothing to do with this channel - we only support ubuntu here
[10:16] <gordonjcp> kalakj: fwiw I don't use Windows because I don't know how it works or how to use it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Hello_: what do you want to achieve?
[10:17] <leto> ikonia: which doc do you advice me to do this install?
[10:17] <ikonia> leto: just a genric lvm overview/
[10:17] <ikonia> leto: just to get a basic understanding of how it works
[10:17] <pyasi> i had a disconnection , so asked you guys again
[10:17] <pyasi> guys , internet doesn't work when i boot a live cd , there is network connection with my router, but no internet
[10:18] <kalakj> just roll your finger few times to save finger print data,  next time, use it to authenticate instead of supplying passwords
[10:18] <Ben64> pyasi: maybe try ##networking ?
[10:18] <ikonia> pyasi: check your dns settings and your default gateway
[10:18] <pyasi> they all work while booting from windows
[10:19] <ikonia> pyasi: that's not what I said
[10:19] <ikonia> pyasi: your windows install has no relevence
[10:19] <pyasi> yes, internet works in other devices
[10:19] <ikonia> again - I didn't say that
[10:19] <Hello_> Can I install Android-JellyBean Through VB on Ubuntu
[10:19] <ikonia> I asked you to check your dns settings and default route
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Hello_: in heory yes
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> hee*theory
[10:20] <ikonia> ping is not a valid test
[10:20] <ikonia> icmp != internet
[10:20] <Hello_> what do you mean theory ??
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: shows routing is good
[10:20] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no - it doesn't
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Hello_: it has USB access so your device will be seen
[10:21] <pyasi> they are all fine
[10:21] <sample001> Does anybody here know how and where to modify the iwlist scan result ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: the data has to flow through the router to hit the target and get sent back, so it shows traffic can flow in and out of the LAN as well as the system itself
[10:21] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't - as it is icmp
[10:21] <ikonia> it does not prove everything as not all providers will forward icmp
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: does <IP_ADDRESS> ping ok?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: well, lets try. It is free
[10:22] <Ben64> i've never seen a place that blocks outgoing pings
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: in my workplace we block icmp in some areas
[10:22] <DJones> Hello_: I tried it and got it installed, but it didn't really work that well, most of the apps didn't work because running in a vm doesn't have the hardware needed (gps/acceleromiter/gprs etc) It was ok to do to see whether it would work, but not to actually use
[10:23] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: out of curiosity, why do you block ICMP?
[10:23] <gordonjcp> doesn't that make a bunch of stuff not work properly?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: no idea, was like that when I started
[10:24] <sample001> Does anyone here know how and where to modify the iwlist scan result ?
[10:24] <ikonia> gordonjcp: icmp can expose some network security holes
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> sample001: use grep
[10:24] <ikonia> sample001: it will only display what it can see
[10:24] <ikonia> sample001: so you can't modify what it can see/scan
[10:24] <Hello_> Has anybody installed Android-JellyBean on ubuntu thru
[10:25] <Hello_> Has anybody installed Android-JellyBean on ubuntu thru VB
[10:25] <ikonia> Hello_: stop asking
[10:25] <DJones> Hello_: You'll probably get more experienced replies if you ask in #vbox on Freenode, they might have some pointers
[10:25] <ikonia> Hello_: DJones has just given you some feedback
[10:25] <DJones> Hello_: Please read the replies you're being given, there's no point asking the question over and over if you don't read the responses
[10:25] <sample001> ikonia: what i want is to see only the signal level . But i dont want to use grep . because my main purpose is to make the scan result very fast and almost realtime. Do you have any idea how to do it ?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> sample001: why do you not want to use grep?
[10:26] <ikonia> sample001: use a tool that does that
[10:26] <ikonia> sample001: and grep will not slow it down
[10:26] <ikonia> grep just filters the results, it doesn't change them, so there will be no change in performance
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> sample001: grep is super fast
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> sample001: what do you think grep does that takes so long
[10:27] <sample001> thanks all
[10:27] <devoid> is anyone having problems with update-alternatives? for the last few days both my quantal and raring machines revert to the default x-terminal-emulator (konsole) every day. no problems before that.
[10:27] <Hello_> DJones_ Thanks.. I just wish a redirection..
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> sample001: what do you think grep does that takes so long exctly?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> grep adds 0.007 seconds, wooooo
[10:38] <simion314> hi, i have an AMD 6670 card ,  sometimes when starting/rebooting the image on the screen seems like it using 16 or 256 colors , i am using the catalyst driver in 12.04 and also tried the experimental driver  and I has same issues
[10:39] <simion314> not sure if is a driver or hardware issue, restarting a few times will solve this
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> simion314: once you get logged in, try running:  killall -u $USER    then login again
[10:46] <nugroho2> WHA420355
[10:46] <MUSTAFA> Hİ COMUNNİTY  İCH HABE EİNE FRAGE.. WİE İNSTALLİERE İCH ASTERİSK AUF UBUNTU 12.04 DESKTOP?? KANNMİR DA JEMAND HELFEN?
[10:46] <simion314> ActionParsnip: hi, thx , can you tell me more? what do you think it could be? an app?
[10:46] <ikonia> !de | MUSTAFA
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> simion314: may just be loading the drive slowly, does it help
[10:48] <simion314> ActionParsnip: now is working fine, i will have to reboot 20 times maybe to get the error
[10:48] <simion314> now I am working, can't afford to debug this
[10:48] <simion314> thx
[10:48] <elita15> can someone please tell how to install vim and git
[10:49] <Znoosey> elita15: apt-get install vim git
[10:49] <MUSTAFA> hi community how can i install asterisk on ubuntu 12.04desktop? can someone help me?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> MUSTAFA: http://blogs.digium.com/2012/11/14/how-to-install-asterisk-11-on-ubuntu-12-4-lts/
[10:50] <elita15> znoosey, thanks..
[10:50] <Znoosey> elita15, no problem
[10:51] <selim> ActionParsnip: how would uninstalling old kernels help to fix the problem?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> selim: frees up space
[10:51] <elita15> how do we install python interpreter?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> elita15: use software centre
[10:51] <selim> ActionParsnip: the space is not the problem anymore
[10:51] <selim> there was some bad mounting of /tmp
[10:51] <MUSTAFA> tahnks actionparsnip love u  :D
[10:51] <selim> I fixed that, but now I need to retry the upgrade process
[10:51] <selim> which is not possible it shows 0 upgrades
[10:52] <Znoosey> elita15, python should already be installed with ubuntu
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> MUSTAFA: i just websearched, have you tried that?
[10:52] <Znoosey> elita15, so unless you need some specific python version there is no need for it
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> selim: what messages do you see>
[10:52] <elita15> its not actually. mine is ubuntu v 12.04
[10:53] <elita15> most of the softwares in software center cannot be installed. why is it so?
[10:53] <Znoosey> elita15: and whereis python , doesn't return anything?
[10:54] <berryciderspider> does anyone know how to take a regexp for '/image_name.(png/jpg/gif)' out of a url?
[10:55] <elita15> znoosey, sorry i dint get you. can you please explain
[10:55] <Znoosey> elita15, in a command prompt write: whereis python
[10:55] <Znoosey> if it just says: python:
[10:55] <Znoosey> it is not installed
[10:55] <jrib> berryciderspider: uh, what do you want to accomplish exactly?
[10:56] <berryciderspider> jrib: i want to extract the image name (image.jpg, image.gif etc) from a url
[10:56] <MUSTAFA> hi action parsnip.. this is the firs time i use linux ..sorry for the questions.. but the asterisk downloAD link is dossent work
[10:56] <elita15> yes it just says python:
[10:56] <Znoosey> elita if you don't have it installed do: apt-cache search libpython3
[10:57] <Znoosey> and then apt-get install <thepythonversionyouwanthere>
[10:57] <Znoosey> elita15, you can search for libpython2 too... and install that
[10:58] <jrib> berryciderspider: so what do you have so far for your regexp?
[10:58] <Znoosey> elita15, some programs like in software center needs python 2.7, which might be why they are not working
[10:59] <elita15> okay thanks, i'll try that. am currently on windows o/s so cannot do the installation  just now.
[11:00] <elita15> znoosey, so do i have install python 2.7 first?
[11:00] <Znoosey> elita15, i don't think it matters
[11:00] <berryciderspider> jrib: i think i should read about them first, then if i have questions ill ask
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> MUSTAFA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AsteriskOnUbuntu
[11:01] <jrib> berryciderspider: ok
[11:02] <jrib> elita15: if you don't have python, then something is probably really wrong with your installation
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> elita15: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:03] <elita15> actionparsnip, i am on windows o/s currently so cannot try it out
[11:04] <elita15> what is the command for?
[11:04] <[nas]peter> it shows the version of Ubuntu
[11:04] <elita15> znoosey, thanks. i'll try what you said
[11:06] <inashdeen> hi there all. Well this is just my opinion though. Not sure anybody would even bother bout it. I am trying to promote Ubuntu, but to my dismay there is no recent available ads for ubuntu. The only one I can found for ubuntu 12.04 is not even close to an ad,I should say it. Urm... this is bad :( *dismay*
[11:07] <ehhh> hey guys i've got some varying questions. . first a quick one is ubuntu for phone only designed for android phones like the nexus or could i be able to install it to my dying samsung wave (runs bada os)
[11:08] <k1l_> !phone | ehhh
[11:08] <berryciderspider> jrib: how do i match more than one value? for example p =  re.compile('[a-z]') -> p.match('some text') only returns 's'. How can i get it to iterate over the whole string?
[11:08] <jrib> berryciderspider: put * after your [a-z] character class
[11:09] <jrib> berryciderspider: * means 0 or more matches of what just came before
[11:09] <k1l_> berryciderspider: there is also #bash for scripting questions :)
[11:10] <berryciderspider> jrib: oh yeah, cheers
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> elita15: if you can give us the output it will be useful to us
[11:17] <berryciderspider> jrib: ok i've got this: re.compile('\/.*.jpg') but how so i use an 'OR' expression?
[11:17] <elita15> ActionParsnip, i'll try it out soon and tell you.
[11:20] <jrib> berryciderspider: (foo|bar)
[11:22] <selim> ActionParsnip: no messages, I do apt-get upgrade and I get this: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:23] <ehhh> cool, I'll give it a read soon. . next thing is I've got an old HP laptop, I tried to install ubuntu on it recently but booting from cd barely works, usb works but real slow, and after the hours of wait to get to the install screen i end up with a error something about hotswap failed or something (right after install starts, I'm assuming it fails to format to ext), can't remember specifically but I can get the whole message but it woul
[11:23] <ehhh> while to get there). . I can install windows 7 on it fine but it crashes all the time (overloading+overheating, turns off after a certain while so i never get to install the drivers, ubuntu doesn't seem to crash from it though)
[11:24] <ehhh> is there hope for this old thing
[11:25] <ehhh> want to use it for htpc purposes, music and video streaming exclusively
[11:25] <ikonia> ehhh: sounds like a no hoper
[11:26] <ikonia> ehhh: if you can't even install the OS as it's too heavy, I doubt you'll be able to use it as a media server
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> selim: sounds fine then, your SO is up to date
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: have you tested RAM using Memtest86+ /
[11:28] <CruX|> hello how can i change python interpreter from version 2.6 to 2.7 ?
[11:28] <selim> ActionParsnip: that's the problem it's not up to date, the upgrade failed and it can't be up to date
[11:29] <selim> still apt-get won't trigger another run
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | selim
[11:30] <ehhh> no i haven't tried anything beyond installing the os, I had ubuntu studio installed on it but when the bootloader ran it just froze on the black _ screen and started beeping furiously. it's been dusting since i installed ubuntu studio and back then it ran fine but I didn't really use it that much
[11:30] <selim> ActionParsnip: no change
[11:30] <selim> the database doesn't seem to be locked
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> selim: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> selim: will force it to redownload the new packages etc
[11:34] <Layke> How do I mv the contents of a folder up one directory, (where there will be clashes of names, and overwrite everything)
[11:35] <jrib> Layke: just move them up?  If you get prompts, answer affirmatively?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Layke: do you want the files to overwrite?
[11:36] <Layke> ActionParsnip, Yeah. I'm trying from command line
[11:36] <Layke> mv: cannot move `drupal-7.22/includes' to `./includes': Directory not empt
[11:36] <Layke> I tried doing this...
[11:36] <Layke> mv -f drupal-7.22/* .
[11:37] <Layke> I did read the man pages, and it says that -f is to do not prompt for overwriting. So not really sure what's the problem.
[11:38] <ehhh> but does anyone have any experience with htpc, I'm thinking to control the media players with dedicated apps from an android device, so i can persay,browse through my music library on for example amarok, use xbmc exclusively for video etc etc. . does anyone have an opinion whether i should use ubuntu or windows for this, I've got an even older stationary computer that has survived all the angry kicks and it's still kicking back :P but
[11:38] <ehhh> out so i might need a hdmi card or something. . this is only a possibility as I'm not decided on using it as a htpc or a studio pc yet. .
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Layke: mv -a   to move a folder
[11:39] <Layke> mv: invalid option -- a
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: xbmc runs on both
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Layke: -r then
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: xbmc will add itself as a session in lightdm, handy
[11:39] <Layke> Same ActionParsnip
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Layke: man mv
[11:40] <Layke> I have
[11:40] <Layke> I've read it all
[11:40] <ehhh> yeah that's why I'm still considering using windows for htpc purposes, I love foobar, winamp and xmbc i haven't really started using yet. . what's lightdm?
[11:40] <auronandace> ehhh: lightdm is the login manager
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: I use vlc for its web ui
[11:40] <Layke> http://pastie.org/8074755
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: lots of apps can control it using that interface
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Layke: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:42] <Layke> ActionParsnip, I've just used cp -rf instead.
[11:42] <Layke> Which I think worked..
[11:42] <selim> ActionParsnip: I still get 0 upgraded
[11:42] <ehhh> i'm still a bit undecided since i don't have an android yet so i can experiment with it, i know the apps for windows software LOOKS better but i don't know what will perform best. . i use vlc standard but want to set up a library of sorts and think xbmc should do the job nicely for that purpose (browse movies, series, etc)
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> selim: then all I can say is that the OS is up to date
[11:43] <Alternate> Anyone knows an app that I can use that check all my hardware?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: the vlc remote can have its home set in the app, so you see the library folders and files on the device rather than the screen. Depends what you like
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: xbmc has a remote app too, it moves the screen on the system like a dvd menu
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Alternate: check in what way?
[11:44] <Alternate> To see if everything is still working fine, like ram test etc
[11:44] <selim> ActionParsnip: for some reason the system thinks it did install all those packages
[11:44] <selim> but it does not
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Alternate: there is memtest86+ in Grub
[11:44] <selim> at least thats what the log says
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> selim: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:45] <ehhh> I keep everything sorted out real nicely so basicly a file browser would work for the movies and series, so vlc I can basically have a file browser styled stuff going on and xmbc would look the part. . i've been using vlc as standard for years but not beyond just launching the files and occasionally setting up playlists. . i can try this stuff on this computer right`? (windows)
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> selim: its a quick command.....
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: if you want, its your system....
[11:46] <diiuirh> slt
[11:47] <jonascj> Hi. I've ran "sudo update-rc.d redis-server remove" and "sudo rm /etc/init.d/redis-server" after following a guide blindly. How do I undo this so redis starts up at boot time?
[11:47] <selim> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[11:50] <ehhh> freedom is great, i want to run ubuntu on this computer too but i'm limited as the music production softwares on windows are far superior for me over ubuntu studio. . if i set up vlc to my videos folder what's the app like (is the app like a file browser? i'll check right now on google play and see what i can find)
[11:51] <ehhh> does it basically work like, i browse the video library on the phone, launch it from there and it boots up`?
[11:52] <ehhh> for vlc
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: yes, the vlc remote only controls.
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: another way is to use x forwarding and launch the app
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: the sound will come out of the server but the GUI will show on the client
[11:54] <sperrhaken> jonascj: "apt-get --reinstall install redis-server" might recreate the init-script and the appropiate default start-up links.
[11:56] <ehhh> nice, it's good to know i atleast won't be limited in options . . guess it all comes down to decisions and a bit of experimentation when i get an android device :P didn't take the time to explore the possibilities of vlc alone . .
[11:57] <ehhh> i'm thinking if i use a stationary computer over a laptop i would drop the nas and just use hard drives in it. . does seem a lot more efficient than streaming over network and shit
[11:58] <ikonia> ehhh: tone down the language, there is no need for it please.
[11:58] <ehhh> only reason i'm considering nas is if i drop computers completely and go for something like sonos for music etc
[11:58] <Castling> suggestions for an irc client for use with ubuntu? I've used mirc for many years, something similar would be great.
[11:58] <ehhh> lol sorry :P
[11:58] <ikonia> Castling: there are many available, search the package manager, try some, see what you like
[11:58] <Guest8812> Trying to download all .pdf files from the web-dirctory ibiblio.org/pub/, so I supplied this following command:
[11:58] <Guest8812>  wget -r -l 0 -A pdf ibiblio.org/pub/
[11:58] <Guest8812>  here's the part output
[11:58] <Guest8812> http://pastebin.com/kxFj22Yp
[11:58] <Guest8812> It looks like other unnecessary files that are not required are being downloaded too and then it's checking that there only Accept option for pdf extension and then it removes the non required file. The problem is, I am having expensive internet, so I don't want to download unnecessary files. Any idea?
[11:58] <FloodBot1> Guest8812: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <ulkesh> Castling: xchat is nice (GUI), irssi is also (TextUI)
[11:59] <k1l_> Castling: xhcat (the one without -gnome)
[11:59] <Guest8812> oops, I didn't flooded
[11:59] <Castling> yeah I'm very partial to nice gui
[11:59] <Guest8812> did anybody saw my question?
[11:59] <ikonia> Guest8812: everyone saw it
[11:59] <Zagomah> hi to all
[12:00] <Guest8812> ok, I thought FloodBot1 didn't allowed me to post
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Castling: irssi, xchat, pidgin :)
[12:01] <ehhh> but i don't really see that many reasons for not using a computer to put it that way . . the computer might make more noise than a little plastic thingy for it but with the right cooling and good silent hdds. . well i'm confusing myself here :P
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Castling: mirc gui isnt particulary pretty
[12:01] <Castling> yhx
[12:01] <selim> ActionParsnip: the LTS Version doesn't say anything, does it?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> selim: how do you mean?
[12:02] <ZenoArrow> Hi. Having a network configuration issue. I'm using a static IP with wlan0 (configured through the networking GUI). This works fine, until I want to alter the DNS servers (I need the result in /etc/resolv.conf to be different). Help!
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: you can add it in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head at the bottom of the file, it will apply each time
[12:04] <ehhh> does anyone have an opinion on computers vs designed streamers? i think streamers would be rather limiting but with a nice gui designed for the purpose, though with a computer i would be able to do anything from browse the web etc though music is my #1 priority
[12:05] <Castling> ive used a wdtv live forever, but i just play video. its basic, but works flawlessly.
[12:05] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Thank you. I would do that, but the file /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head has a comment saying "# Do not edit this file by hand -- your changes will be overwritten"
[12:06] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: This would imply I should use resolvconf to alter the head file. Is it okay to edit it manually?
[12:06] <ehhh> yeah the problem if i go with streamers is i would probably end up with two, one for music (sonos/bluesound), and one for video (i.e. wdtv, dune, boxee whatever (i haven't been reading up too much on the videos stuff)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: thats because it is used to generate /etc/resolv.conf
[12:07] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Have you looked at subsonic?
[12:07] <ehhh> i would need a designated one for music like bluesound as it supports 24bit audio (though at this time i'm not loaded up on the wavs, mostly 16bit)
[12:07] <ehhh> Zenoarrow: no, do you have a  link i could check it out?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: it is the top of the file, so if you put DNS servers in that file, it will be added regardless of any DHCP address :)
[12:08] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Okay. So to confirm the steps I should follow, I edit the head file with... nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>... at the top, save it, then???
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[12:08] <Guest62390> how was the german ubuntu chat?
[12:08] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: then when you reboot etc, the file will get the usual text, plus the nameservers
[12:09] <tonmon> level
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !de | Guest62390
[12:09] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Thank you, I'll try that now.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: its a hack, but it works
[12:11] <ehhh> ZeroArrow: this looks real interesting, is it like an alternative to spotify? been wondering a bit how i would get internet streaming going on ubuntu without spotify. . though i'll say i keep most of my music stored locally and am content with that though the option to go listen to something you can't find elsewhere is always a plus
[12:11] <selim> ActionParsnip: How do I now if the upgrade did really work, since the log only tells me what was intended to do and not if it really finished successfully
[12:11] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Just to check, if I wanted to add two nameservers with your hack, would I change it to...
[12:12] <ehhh> Zenoarrow*
[12:12] <ZenoArrow> echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head > /dev/null
[12:12] <selim> ActionParsnip: but since it does not show new upgrade (there have been 86 before) something must be wrong
[12:12] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Or do I need to separate with a comma?
[12:13] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: You can think of Subsonic as an alternative to Spotify, yes. There are numerous benefits, including....
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> ZenoArrow: one nameserver per line
[12:14] <ZenoArrow> Audio transcoding, video transcoding, phone apps, desktop apps, no ads, etc...
[12:14] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: Understood, thanks.
[12:15] <ehhh> I see on the frontpage it streams movies as well :P this is def something i'll check out and try
[12:15] <keepguessing> I keep getting this proxy issues while using ubuntu 12.04 I end up configuring each application separately to use the proxy in my office. I toggle from office to work. But when I am at home I do not have any proxy server I spend a lot of time unconfiguring the proxy for my server :-(
[12:16] <keepguessing> s/for my server/for my laptop/
[12:16] <Eax> Hey there - Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop - Can someone explain how I can disable the Searching in Nautilus when I write single letters? So that it just jumps to the first file with that letter instead of opening a search view? Thanks!
[12:16] <ehhh> also i see it's made by a norwegian, blasphemy ! no one in my country can do this :P
[12:16] <keepguessing> Is there any cleaner way that you use?
[12:28] <bhavyakumarsingh> hello installed libreoffice bit can not open files with .odt or .doc extension
[12:28] <ZenoArrow> ActionParsnip: I've made the recommended changes, and can see the contents in the altered file. Issue is, the program I use utilises /etc/resolv.conf, and I need to remove the nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> from this file before the new nameservers will be used. Can I just manually delete this line?
[12:28] <auronandace> bhavyakumarsingh: how did you install it?
[12:29] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: trying out subsonic now, so it's like you set up the media folders from your computer, and it works like a cloud server that you can access from anywhere?
[12:30] <bhavyakumarsingh> auronandance : using "sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[12:30] <bhavyakumarsingh> "
[12:30] <morpheus_>
[12:30] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Yes, pretty much.
[12:30] <auronandace> bhavyakumarsingh: works fine for me
[12:31] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: looks pretty cool, i'll definitively check this out some more and try it out see how it works, what's the best configuration for this?
[12:31] <bhavyakumarsingh> auronandace :it is installed but when  try to open it it gives option filter selection
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> bhavyakumarsingh  maybe a language pack that's not installed?
[12:32] <bhavyakumarsingh> monkey dust: how can i install it
[12:32] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: You will probably need to setup dynamicdns if you want to access your collection from outside your network.
[12:32] <auronandace> bhavyakumarsingh: are you sure the file you are trying to open is in fact a .odt or .doc
[12:32] <auronandace> bhavyakumarsingh: you haven't just renamed the file to have that extension have you?
[12:32] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Is video streaming a requirement for you?
[12:32] <bhavyakumarsingh> yes bcoz i can open them on other system installed with Ubuntu and even windows but not onmy PC
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> bhavyakumarsingh  renaming a file does not convert it
[12:33] <bhavyakumarsingh> i know bro i have saved them in .doc and .odt formats
[12:34] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: music is #1, i can say video streaming is around 10-15% really . . but that might change a bit once i get everything up and running but i still think music will be #1. . i might prefer to watch movies stored locally just for stability but i'm not completely sure what i'll do in the end
[12:34] <nabn> hi. i need to reinstall the linux kernel ( i guess ). Is there a easy (.deb, or apt-get way) to do that?
[12:35] <bhavyakumarsingh> MonkeyDust, any other option
[12:35] <reisio> nabn: you guess?
[12:35] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: What machine would you like to use as your server?
[12:36] <nabn> reisio, i am not really sure
[12:36] <nabn> reisio, i am kind of desparate
[12:36] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: well since my old laptop is out of the question it seems that i'll either use my old stationary, or a new one, or the last option which would be a NAS
[12:36] <reisio> nabn: over what/
[12:36] <reisio> s/\//\?/
[12:37] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Why is your old laptop out of the question? How old is old?
[12:38] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: I only ask as I've got Subsonic setup on a Raspberry Pi, which is pretty much perfect as a Subsonic audio server, but not quite powerful enough to do video transcoding.
[12:38] <Deathis> exit
[12:39] <tesqie> gell
[12:39] <tesqie> hello
[12:39] <tesqie> is this a help chat?
[12:39] <jrib> tesqie: yes
[12:39] <nabn> reisio, my graphics drivers are not apparantly working. i should be using the default driver module that comes with the kernel. when i upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04, the graphics was not right and also, i couldn't change my brightness levels
[12:39] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: I can't get ubuntu installed, I get a hotswap fail at the beginning of the install. . it runs with ubuntu off usb / live cd fine but i can't get it installed properly / hard drives won't format ( i think ). it runs windows 7 but after about 20 minutes it shuts off (i believe) because of overheating
[12:40] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: if I could get ubuntu properly on it it's my first choice even though it gets hot as . . i won't be physically using it anyway is my though. .
[12:40] <ehhh> thought*
[12:41] <tesqie> ive been working for 3 days trying to isntall ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8. first of all it wasnt loading so i had to use nomodeset wich didnt work then later used radeon.modeset=0 wich works. Althought this generates a problem later on. ofcourse after ubuntu was installed my computer would boot straight onto windows. to fix this i used boot-repair disk. and had to use radeon.modeset=0 but using this commain it gives me gtk cann
[12:41] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Oh okay, probably best to avoid using it if it overheats. In that case you're looking at your standalone machine. What hardware has it got? Would you happy leaving it on all the time, or would you be keen to get something lower power?
[12:43] <Alternate> why would someone get a home server? what is the benefit?
[12:43] <tesqie> does anyone have a clue, cuz im really lost
[12:43] <ZenoArrow> Alternate: There are tons of benefits, just depends on what you use computers for.
[12:45] <tesqie> ive been working for 3 days trying to isntall ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8. first of all it wasnt loading so i had to use nomodeset wich didnt work then later used radeon.modeset=0 wich works. Althought this generates a problem later on. ofcourse after ubuntu was installed my computer would boot straight onto windows. to fix this i used boot-repair disk. and had to use radeon.modeset=0 but using this commain it gives me gtk cann
[12:45] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: it's an old packard bell, I can't completely remember the specs but i tihnk it's somewhere around . . 2.5 ghz, 2-4gb ram, a few hdds and stuff . . i'm in between whether i should use it for htpc purposes or as a music production studio computer (though I'll probably end up getting a new custom built for that, i don't want to lose my stuff) so it looks like it's a viable option for htpc use if i put in a hdmi card. .
[12:46] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: and yes it should be fine running all the time, though I might standby at night for safety
[12:46] <ZenoArrow> tesqie: Take a look at this... http://askubuntu.com/questions/279275/dual-boot-problem-windows-8-ubuntu-12-04
[12:47] <tesqie> zeno arrow i tried that
[12:48] <selim> Anyone some other idea how I can retrigger my upgrade?
[12:48] <ZenoArrow> tesqie: Which method did you try? There are two listed.
[12:48] <tesqie> the first one
[12:48] <tesqie> does the second one work with uefi?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> selim  "other" as opposed to what?
[12:48] <ZenoArrow> tesqie: Worth a go.
[12:49] <tesqie> so i slap it on a usb and boot with it?
[12:49] <selim> MonkeyDust: to this one, which did not help: 	ActionParsnip	[#ubuntu] selim: wget https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:50] <ZenoArrow> tesqie: Here's the link to the documentation... http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/secureboot.html
[12:50] <tesqie> thank you going to try it now
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> selim  if upgrading fails, try backup and fresh install
[12:51] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: As long as you're happy leaving your PC on during the day, no problem. Worth looking into whether your PC supports Wake on LAN as well. The installation guide is on the Subsonic website.
[12:51] <selim> MonkeyDust: before I do this, I would manually reinstall all packages listed in the apt-get log
[12:51] <selim> which would work as well, but I search for some more simpler way
[12:52] <Alternate> how does wake on lan work?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> selim  fresh install is the most simple, fast and clean way
[12:54] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: wake-on-lan would be cool, basically i could boot it up from a phone/remote? i know i can get it out of standby with the space button on the keyboard (but that's probably not the same thing)
[12:55] <ZenoArrow> Alternate: Wake on LAN works by keeping the network adapter active whilst the rest of the machine is not, then when you receive a certain packet it switches the machine on. The motherboard needs to support it for it to work. Some motherboards also support Wake On Wlan.
[12:57] <ZenoArrow> ehhh: Pretty much, yes. It's different from getting it out of standby from just pressing space, as the computer is in a much lower power state when not in use with Wake on Lan.
[12:57] <selim> MonkeyDust: in this case it's not
[12:57] <Alternate> do you need a special router for that?
[12:58] <selim> MonkeyDust: it's a server an a reinstall would be to much stuff to care for afterwards
[12:58] <ehhh> ZenoArrow: I'll look into if it works once i get it up from the closet and running :) though i'll say that computer I don't think I've used it that much online (it doesn't have wifi, but i don't dread cables)
[12:58] <ZenoArrow> Alternate: No, you don't need a special router, your computer motherboard needs to support it, it's a BIOS setting.
[12:59] <Alternate> is there a channel where people talk about routers, acces points?
[12:59] <ZenoArrow> Alternate: What would you like to know?
[12:59] <anom> How can I remove empathy from 13.04?
 Can i send you  a pm?
[13:00] <ZenoArrow> Alternate: You could, but I'd prefer if you could just send me the message here.
[13:01] <auronandace> anom: why do you want to remove it?
[13:01] <anom> I never use it.
[13:01] <anom> I use skype.
[13:01] <auronandace> anom: no need to remove it
[13:02] <auronandace> anom: not like it takes up much space
[13:02] <_neural_> whats the command to start the upgrade manager and switch to the new release?
[13:02] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to update warzone 2100 to 3.1.0, but the instructions i was following don't work because apparently everything it needs "doesn't have an installation candidate"
[13:02] <jrib> !upgrade | _neural_
[13:02] <_neural_> thx
[13:03] <uhelp> Greetings:  I have Ubuntu 1204.2.  How do you take a screenshot?  I have a "special" button on the keyboard and expect "PrtSc" button to take a screenshot but .... it doesn't.
[13:04] <marcellux> I use Ksnapshot
[13:04] <Biomechd> uhelp: it should be screenshotting everything. mine does. of course, i'm a version ahead of you.
[13:04] <Biomechd> i just use the default screenshot program that came with it
[13:04] <uhelp> Biomechd: then I should file a bug in launchpad?
[13:04] <Biomechd> perhaps
[13:04] <marcellux> is it a laptop or a pc?
[13:04] <Biomechd> mine's a laptop
[13:04] <uhelp> marcellux: it is a laptop
[13:05] <marcellux> try to check the keyboard layout
[13:05] <uhelp> marcellux: how do I check it?
[13:05] <Biomechd> the install directions here don't work. how can i fix it? https://uniluug.org/wiki/Warzone_2100
[13:05] <tesqie> zenoarrow
[13:05] <marcellux> am using kubuntu, but I guess u can check that under settings
[13:06] <marcellux> or better yet, under keyboard shortcuts
[13:06] <tesqie> i tried it and it works when i boot but now my display doesnt work, how do i incorprate modeset=0?
[13:06] <adamk_> uhelp: Are you sure it didn't copy the screenshot to your clipboard?
[13:07] <uhelp> marcellux: I see "Keyboard Input Methods" ... but that doesn't sound like what you want.  Still looking ...
[13:07] <adamk_> tesqie: Setting modeset=0 is generally not a good idea unless you are trying to use proprietary drivers.  Can you log in at the console and pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[13:08] <tesqie> idk how
[13:08] <tesqie> but without modeset=0 i cannot install ubuntu or use it
[13:08] <uhelp> adamk_: If it did should I be able to paste it with ctrl-v in writer?
[13:08] <tesqie> cuz my radeon graphics card
[13:08] <tesqie> im trying to boot into ubuntu after installing it
[13:09] <uhelp> adamk_: (because CTRL-V in writer doesn't paste a screenshot)
[13:10] <hadifarnoud> my server is under DDoS attacks. I enabled fail2ban with default config. I just enabled all jails. is the default conf good enough? now I can't even resolve a host. https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/3d2aecbe064f3034fccb
[13:10] <uhelp> marcellux: I think I found where you wanted me to go.  You type gnome-control-center then you scroll down to "keyboard" then select the "Shortcuts" tab
[13:11] <adamk_> uhelp: OK, well I'd be disinclined to think that this is a bug, and more likely something not configured properly on your end.
[13:11] <marcellux> right
[13:11] <marcellux> try there to see if u can set your own shortcut to take snapshots
[13:11] <uhelp> adamk_: if something isn't configured correctly then it would seem to be a bug since I just installed 12.04.2 a few days ago
[13:12] <marcellux> if it's still not working, then you have a bug to report
[13:12] <adamk_> uhelp: I'd be more inclined to think it's something *you* did :-)
[13:12] <hadifarnoud> why is it all <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[13:13] <everestt> "Drawing/Dingbat" fonts aren't working on my 13.04... the .ttf file is copied in my ~/.fonts folder... the file opens fine with the font viewer... but whenever I try to use the font from Libreoffice or any other application, it just shows english alphabets instead of the drawings! What's happening?
[13:13] <uhelp> adamk_: I changed the shortcut to Super L and it still doesn't work.
[13:14] <hadifarnoud> my server is under DDoS attacks. I enabled fail2ban with default config. I just enabled all jails. is the default conf good enough? now I can't even resolve a host. https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/3d2aecbe064f3034fccb perhaps I shouldn't use it for DNS?
[13:14] <everestt> btw, the default webdings font is working fine! Any other dingbat fonts I install aren't working.
[13:14] <uhelp> adamk_: I installed 12.04.2 then I installed gnome, mplayer, and a few others.  I really don't understand how this could mean I am at fault but it is very hard to rule out I didn't make a mistake without knowing it (if I knew it I wouldn't be here).
[13:15] <tesqie> how do i install ubuntu i keep getting a purple screen, im downloading it along side windows 8 uefi, been trying for days
[13:15] <ehhh> does anyone know how well windows communicates with ubuntu? say i run windows on my laptop (main comp) and ubuntu on my htpc and i want to ftp new files from the laptop to the htpc, would that be  a problem with a proper ftp client? (assuming ftp is the best sollution)
[13:15] <uhelp> adamk_: none of the others should have anything to do with taking a screen capture
[13:16] <adamk_> uhelp: Ubuntu 12.04 ships with gnome by default...  So what did you do to "install" it?
[13:17] <uhelp> adamk_: history | grep install shows ssh google-chrome-stable rep fastjar g++ mplayer ghc curl dpkg-dev lua5.2 libcurl-openssl-dev iotop iftop gnome mplayer
[13:17] <uhelp> adamk_: I type sudo apt-get install gnome
[13:17] <uhelp> adamk_: maybe this is a non-operation
[13:17] <tesqie> im trying to install ubuntu 13.04
[13:17] <uhelp> adamk_: also installed vmware --- but it isn't running now
[13:18] <uhelp> adamk_: (vmware player)
[13:19] <uhelp> adamk_: at the login I switched to gnome without effects.  I don't claim this has anything to do with my issue ... just tell so that everything is known.
[13:19] <Biomechd> i'm trying to run an install.sh file from the terminal after cd-ing to its directory, but ./install-sh just returns "no input file specified". what do i need to do to fix this?
[13:20] <hadifarnoud> my server is under DDoS attacks. I enabled fail2ban with default config. I just enabled all jails. is the default conf good enough? now I can't even resolve a host. https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/3d2aecbe064f3034fccb perhaps I shouldn't use it for DNS?
[13:21] <adamk_> uhelp: Did you check your keyboard layout?  Does the shortcut to a single simplekey, such as 'p'
[13:22] <uhelp> adamk_: BUG! I tried to switch back to using "PrtSc" button and it says "The shortcut "Print" is already used for "Take a screenshot"         If you reassign the shortcut to "Take a screenshot", the "Take a screenshot" shortcut will be disabled.
[13:22] <ehhh> if i want a external hard drive to be compatible with both windows and ubuntu, what should i use? (fat32, ext2/3 or ntfs?)
[13:23] <uhelp> adamk_: it was "Print" and I changed it (as you suggest) to "Super L" (*still didn't work) so I tried to change it back to "Print" which is when I get this error message
[13:24] <ThePendulum> ehhh: I'd recommend NTFS, although that won't give you high performance on Ubuntu
[13:24] <adamk_> uhelp: Honestly, this is the first time I'm hearing about this "bug"...  Did you install from a live CD?  Does it work from a live CD?
[13:24] <ThePendulum> ehhh: FAT32 has a filesize limit of 4GB
[13:25] <ThePendulum> And ext# isn't very compatible with Windows
[13:25] <uhelp> adamk_: i installed from the install DVD which I wasn't aware was different then the live DVD .... are they different?
[13:25] <ehhh> ThePendulum: it would probably be used for moving files across from this computer to the ubuntu computer. . unless ftp is a better option
[13:25] <uhelp> adamk_: I can boot into the DVD I installed from and try ... it may take me some minutes to do this but I will
[13:26] <k1l_> ehhh: go with ntfs
[13:26] <zephyr28> Has anyone been able to get ZoneMinder setup and working in 13.04?  I can't seem to find ANY instructions on setting it up that aren't a couple years old.
[13:26] <k1l_> ehhh: its compatible with most OS and the speed is not that bad as usb-speed is anyway
[13:26] <uhelp> adamk_: also I took a photo of the error with my phone.  I don't see how it could be other than a bug when it shows the shortcut is Super L but when I change it to Print it says Print is already assigned to Take a screenshot.
[13:27] <ThePendulum> My laptop has a fingerprint reader and it previously worked in Ubuntu
[13:27] <ThePendulum> Now I reinstalled Ubuntu, and I can't get the reader to work
[13:27] <uhelp> adamk_: How could it not be a bug?  Shouldn't a non-buggy Ubuntu claim Super L is not assigned to Take a screenshot OR claim Print is assigned but not both at once on the same screen?
[13:28] <ehhh> k1l_: yes i've been using ntfs as standard for years since fat32 won't support bigger files, say if the sole purpose was to move smaller files though (like music (say 50-100 mb per song), would NTFS still be the best option?
[13:29] <adamk_> uhelp: Unless you somehow did something to assign printscreen somewhere else. I'm not saying this isn't necessarily a bug, I'm just trying to figure out what you did to trigger it :-)
[13:29] <ehhh> i have several ext hdds :P
[13:29] <ehhh> external *
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: ntfs is good if you need to have the data accessibe in Windows
[13:30] <ehhh> cool, cross platform is always a plus :)
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: well, windows can only access few file systems, so you need to accommodate
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: alternatively, use ext4 and setup an sftp server and access the storage securely over WAN
[13:32] <mic1980> good day to all
[13:32] <uhelp> adamk_: I don
[13:33] <uhelp> adamk_: I don't want to file some false bugs but I don't see how this could be anything else.  Please look at this image http://imgur.com/Z9xFt7H,W4J1Rdl and explain to me the way it isn't a bug.
[13:33] <mic1980> is anyone interested in helping me in detail walk me through a dual boot configuration to my specific needs
[13:33] <ehhh> ActionParsnip: yes i'd rather run linux on all my computers but at this time i need something to produce music on and linux doesn't do it for me, i most want a mac :P would you recommend ftp over an external?
[13:33] <mydog2409> anyone know how to install the backports ?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: its my preference, i have my fileserver on 24/7 so it is accessible
[13:34] <uhelp> adamk_: Notice there are TWO shortcuts to take a screenshot  .... how is it possible?  I never created the second.  I only assigned from Print to Super L not make a duplicate.
[13:35] <ehhh> ActionParsnip: your fileserver, is it a hdd/nas connected to your router or?
[13:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> question: with the 1.7 version of oracle java its actually openjdk compliant now, right? I recall someone saying that on some channel
[13:35] <mustafa> rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules  is thatright to delet the modules  form old versıon of asterisk?
[13:36] <uhelp> adamk_: Why didn't it give me some error when I assigned Super L if duplicates are a problem instead of creating one?  I wish you to tell me you also feel it is a bug if you do but if you do not I will wait to listen to rule out any flaw I may have created.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: they are different products
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: its a low end PC with storage running openssh-server
[13:38] <ehhh> ActionParsnip: cool, afaik NAS drives are low end computers i think? they atleast state the ghz they're running on and stuff (mount drives)
 rm -rf /usr/lib/asterisk/modules  is thatright to delet the modules  form old versıon of asterisk?
[13:38] <mic1980> ive tried multiple methods of installing 12.04 on 1 of 2 separate physical hard drives with no success to reach the goal i wish for
[13:40] <mic1980> the installation is successful but not to the end goal im aiming for
[13:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: what is your end goal?
[13:42] <mic1980> my end goal is using drive 1 for xp and drive 2 for ubuntu with dual boot in place but ive run into problems getting to the dual boot part
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> ehhh: if the data is available, who cares :)
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: i'd use 1 drive for both OSes then use the 2nd drive as pure user data
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: makes backup easier too :)
[13:43] <mic1980> makes sense, but can drive 2 be used for data for both xp and ubuntu shared
[13:45] <ehhh> ActionParsnip: agree on that, using what's available is the simplest way to get it going :P
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> mic1980  sure, make it a fat drive, so both windows and linux can read it
[13:46] <mic1980> also makes sense, but fat is not very reliable would you not agree
[13:47] <mic1980> also fat has limitations for file size limits
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: how good is your pc? I personally keep a winxp vm for testing builds of my current project on windows, and a 16gb vdi and 1gb ram allocated to it is more than enough
[13:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> not to mention you don't have to reboot to access said os.
[13:48] <mic1980> well its pretty good, 3 ghz processor, 2 gb ram and for playing with linux and xp 2 80 gb satas
[13:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: why don't you just give a virtualbox vm of winxp a shot? it does the trick for me :P
[13:52] <mic1980> well to be honest, im trying to learn the very basics as you may recall from previous conversations or not, and want to gradually become more aquainted with linux. and i could use the machine for strictly linux but dont want to waste the key code for xp so hence dual boot. the other reason is trying to work with the normal defaults set in the ubuntu setup disk and understand both options and limitations for setup
[13:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: this is my pc, and it the arrangement I described works pretty well: CPU~Dual core AMD Athlon II X2 240e (-MCP-) clocked at 800.000 Mhz Kernel~3.2.0-48-generic x86_64 Up~8:09 Mem~1059.0/2943.5MB HDD~500.1GB(30.8% used) Procs~166 Client~Irssi 0.8.15 inxi~1.8.4
[13:54] <adamk_> uhelp: OK, if it's showing two entries for printscreen by default, that really does sound like a bug.
[13:54] <mic1980> at some point id like to get to the learning stage of vm with ubuntu, but not sure my tiny brain can handle that right now lol
[13:55] <thebrush> hellopat, is there someone that use winexe? I couldn't find server part (only the client that I already installed in my Pangolin.
[13:55] <thebrush> )
[13:55] <mic1980> tell did i hear correctly that linux uses something called x-fat and is it not suppose to be more reliable
[13:56] <GrygrFlzr> don't you mean exFAT?
[13:56] <mic1980> see the novice is showing in me. lol
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: its actually not so hard, lol. its just like installing xp on a normal machine, in truth. format the partitions right, install, validate, done.
[13:57] <mic1980> only heard it verbally from a friend who recommend that i play around with linux and recommend ubuntu
[13:57] <GrygrFlzr> and that is actually a microsoft filesystem afaik
[13:57] <mic1980> your talking vm right
[13:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: I believe you mean the ext4 filesystem
[13:58] <GrygrFlzr> vm is even easier
[13:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: yeah, super easy.
[13:59] <berryciderspider> guys is there any way to access the page info -> media using python?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> berryciderspider: I'd ask in #python too :)
[13:59] <mic1980> well action had suggested, and a very good suggestion to setup both xp and linux dual boot on drive 1 and make drive 2 fat, so i was thinking of doing this. but wanted to maybe ask if i would be better using ex-fat to format drive 2 than typical fat32 from windows
[14:00] <th0r> mic1980, I wouldn't suggest exfat, but ntfs would be a good choice
[14:01] <bashturd> article I read over the weekend discussing exFat http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/06/review-is-microsofts-new-data-sharing-system-a-cross-platform-savior/
[14:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: just know one thing, vanilla windows cannot read ext filesystems (read: linux partitions). there are things you can install in it to make able to
[14:01] <mic1980> so linux recognizes ntfs then, good
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: both OSes can read and write NTFS, I'd use that
[14:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: linux recognizes everything, I believe. linux to windows is easy, but the other way around, not so much :p
[14:02] <th0r> mic1980, I have installed exfat support on my xp vm, but haven't had a chance to try it out yet. But since it is a last minute 'add-on' to xp, I don't trust it
[14:02] <mic1980> ya i read that in setting up partitions etc
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: keep your actual home folder in ext4 as this is required, but your casual user data can sit on NTFS. Only down side is that sharing NTFS using Samba isnt easy
[14:02] <deanrock0> NTFS support on Linux is a lot better than ext support on windows
[14:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> ^ this
[14:03] <mic1980> well for right now, since i dont know enough about linux yet, its just to learn and play with for a few weeks to get aquainted and experiment with.
[14:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: heh, its a quick learn, assuming you are not afraid of the terminal prompt (think cmd.exe)
[14:04] <mic1980> not afraid of term but from what i can see, learning the terminology is substantial
[14:04] <deanrock0> (it resembles cmd.exe, but it's nothing like it)
[14:04] <CalimeroTeknik> how can I not install firefox-locale-fr when installing language-pack-fr on a server?
[14:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: yeah, I just wanted to give him something he may recognise as a reference :P
[14:05] <mic1980> basically an old dos man from years back so not much different that way, but terminology is by far different
[14:06] <deanrock0> cmd is something that forced me off the Windows :)
[14:06] <mic1980> so my next question
[14:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, lol. I find when I'm using cmd.exe in my winxp vm I have a tendency to try to use bash commands XD
[14:06] <GrygrFlzr> ntzrmtthihu777, likewise from winxp to ubuntu/debian.
[14:07]  * GrygrFlzr has yet to experience ubuntu fully because it derps in one way or another
[14:08] <deanrock0> powershell is a bit better - it supports basic linux commands
[14:08] <mic1980> drive 2 is bare bones now. nothing on it, not even formatted. just zero'ed out. do you recommend that i just go ahead and format drive 2 ntfs via xp or leave it and wait til after dual boot installed and use linux to format
[14:09] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: heh, I just ended up installing cygwin XD
[14:10] <deanrock0> i wonder why you need linux commands on windows vm
[14:10] <colbabomb> hello, i would like to delete windows vista and have ubuntu take my whole drive without uninstalling, how would i do that
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: because this is the environment i'm confortable with, lol
[14:10] <deanrock0> mic1980: do you already have windows installed?
[14:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> colbabomb: gparted on a live cd is your friend ;)
[14:10] <mic1980> ya on dirve 1 nothing else. clean install
[14:11] <GrygrFlzr> colbabomb, what do you mean 'without uninstalling'?
[14:11] <deanrock0> mic1980: you want to install ubuntu on 1 or 2 drive?
[14:11] <GrygrFlzr> simply reformat if you want linux to take the whole drive
[14:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> GrygrFlzr: I believe he means reinstalling ubuntu
[14:11] <GrygrFlzr> ah
[14:11] <colbabomb> i already have windows and ubuntu on dual boot, i dont want to format but to extend partition that ubuntu is on, how can i do this safely
[14:12] <pyasi> guys internet doesn't work in my laptop while booting from a live cd
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: how do you connect to the web?
[14:12] <deanrock0> colbabomb: GParted Live CD/USB, delete windows partition with it and extend linux partition
[14:12] <mic1980> well originally was going to try to setup linux on drive 2 but my attempts to get dual boot to work did not work, so wiped drive start again. action had suggested just going typical dual boot from drive 1 then formatting drive 2 to ntfs use as data drive for both
[14:12] <mic1980> i like that idea
[14:12] <pyasi> from Windows which is pre-installed
[14:12] <kari-x> hey all
[14:13] <deanrock0> colbabomb: be aware that such operation is not guaranteed to be save; it probably wont fail, but you still want to have a backup
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: makes sense, also put swap and windows pagefile and temp in the other drive, extra speed
[14:13] <pyasi> in the live cd i can open the router's homepage <IP_ADDRESS> but can't run a site
[14:13] <colbabomb> deanrock0: ill do that when saucy salamander comes or next LTS, thanks
[14:13] <FourFire> Hello, what is the "best" open source sound player, with noise filtering features ?
[14:14] <deanrock0> mic1980; if you have two partitions on 1 drive, just install linux on second partition, and reformat second drive after installation
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> FourFire: there is no single best
[14:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> !best | FourFire
[14:14] <FourFire> Then what is the best filter one (preferably with a GUI) ?
[14:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> !best | FourFire
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[14:14] <deanrock0> pyasi: wlan or lan?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: you now have web access
[14:14] <colbabomb> also how do i remove the windows part in the GRUB boot loader
[14:15] <pyasi> deanrock0: wlan
[14:15] <mic1980> i take it that it matters not if i use xp or linux to format drive 2 to ntfs same file system regardless right
[14:15] <FourFire> Ok thanks
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: if you can access the IP of the router you have web access, you will probably be just failing DNS
[14:15] <pyasi> ActionParsnip: should i have to run that in a terminal??
[14:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> colbabomb: sudo update-grub after its gone and it should go away ;)
[14:15] <deanrock0> colbabomb: sudo update-grub
[14:15] <deanrock0> mic1980: you are right, it doesnt matter
[14:16] <colbabomb> alright thanks
[14:16] <pyasi> ActionParsnip: but the internet works in the windows, i am using adsl from the telephone line
[14:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> pyasi: yeah, thats a terminal command
[14:16] <FourFire> well audacity it is then
[14:17] <deanrock0> btw is there a music player with equalizer?
[14:17] <mic1980> last question for now ....lol. incidentally you folks have been a great help, thanks. so last question. for my basic purposes since im going to use drive  1 as dual o/s do you think for the moment 40 gig shared space each would be enough to play around with
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: yes run it in a terminal. Seems the dns is a bit funny in Ubuntu, that command will set a DNS server for you
[14:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> mic1980: plenty, lol
[14:17] <mic1980> great folks thanks for all your help for now. im sure ill be back soon.
[14:18] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: yeah, I set the google public dns servers as my router's default, which made a hell of a lot of difference
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: sweet, if you use namebench you can see what is closer and more responsive for you and you can set that, lots of fun
[14:18] <pyasi> ActionParsnip: ok man i will try
[14:19] <fasd> i use gparted to resize ntfs and now the ntfs is not bootable no more and the gparted tool say that i need to run chkdsk/f twice under windows
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: its only in the livecd too, so changes will be lost on reboot :)
[14:19] <fasd> but i can't boot to winodow how to solve it
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> fasd: use a windows CD
[14:19] <GrygrFlzr> fasd: run the windows recovery tool from the cd ^
[14:19] <fasd> i dont have one
[14:20] <fasd> laptop doesn't come with one
[14:20] <GrygrFlzr> also, it's usually not a good idea to use gparted to resize ntfs, you should let windows do that
[14:20] <fasd> gparted doesnt say anyting abut ntfs
[14:20] <deanrock0> use linux live cd, install ntfs-tools and try ntfsfix
[14:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: yeah, but my router is crap, lol. have a google at the nvg510 and let the horror begin
[14:20] <pyasi> ActionParsnip: ok man , i am rebooting ok
[14:20] <fasd> it should warn user
[14:21] <deanrock0> fasd: ntfsfix might fix a problem
[14:21] <deanrock0> fasd: gparted works in most cases, but sometimes it fails
[14:21] <fasd> ntfsfix is ubuntu app or windows
[14:21] <deanrock0> ubuntu
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> pyasi: why reboot?
[14:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone know how to fix a broken usb stick? a botched dd command stuck it as a read-only filesystem, and I can't even format it with gparted now *rage*
[14:22] <deanrock0> ntzrmtthihu777: create mbr partiton table with gparted
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: use dban on it
[14:22] <jeff__> I got a strange ssh issue. When I attempt to connect to my ubuntu server i.e. ssh SERVERNAME, it actually connects to localhost!  I looked in /etc/hosts and .ssh/conf there is nothign for that sever. Any idea what could be causing it to connect to localhost over the actual host?
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> ActionParsnip: dban?
[14:23] <deanrock0> jeff__: ping SERVERNAME?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: is it the same name?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: yes dban
[14:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: gparted cant do anything to it, as far as I can figure XD
[14:23] <deanrock0> ntzrmtthihu777: even creating new partition table? that sucks
[14:24] <KriSHanSin> I ran the indicator session show real name on panel line but it doesnt show up. i have ubuntu tweak installed though, could that be blocking it from showing?
[14:24] <smoke_> im having some problems with ac3 in dvdstyler, and on an ubuntu forum it says to get the newesdt version of ffmpeg to fix it, what ppa should i use? the jons one?
[14:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> I've tried every trick I know, but no dice :/
[14:24] <smoke_> im running 13.04
[14:24] <c2tarun> I just posted a tutorial, which can be useful to some Iphone owners: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2157148&p=12704475#post12704475   just wanted to share.
[14:24] <deanrock0> ntzrmtthihu777: although i don't know it, just try dban
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> ntzrmtthihu777: if all else fails, shove it next to a arge magnet and kill all data
[14:25] <Semen_Dickman> is ubuntu some kind of code for gay ?
[14:25] <Semen_Dickman> gay sex?>
[14:25] <FloodBot1> Semen_Dickman: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:25] <g0th> hi
[14:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> man we get all types of trolls :/
[14:25] <g0th> hi
[14:26] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: sup. what can we help you with?
[14:26] <jeff__> when I connect    The authenticity of host 'HOSTNAME (::1)' can't be established.
[14:26] <deanrock0> jeff__: looks like HOSTNAME is somehow linked to localhost
[14:26] <g0th> I have a mounted cifs share and inside that share I accidently copied some stuff to a folder backup/backup instead of to backup/ directly
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: what if you nslookup the name?
[14:26] <g0th> so now I have stuff in backup and in backup/backup
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> g0th: cd /path/to/first/backup; cp ./backup/* .
[14:27] <g0th> how can I move/copy the stuff in backup/backup/ to backup/?
[14:27] <jeff__> nslookup does show localhost... that's dns?  because ping works find
[14:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: so what should I have done in gparted?
[14:27] <jeff__> fen
[14:27] <jeff__> fine
[14:27] <g0th> there are already 2TB of data in backup/
[14:27] <g0th> and another ~1TB of data in backup/backup/
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: if you add the resolution in /etc/hosts is it ok?
[14:27] <g0th> so I just want to move/copy the difference
[14:27] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: cd backup; mv backup/* .
[14:27] <KriSHanSin> show user name on panel for 12.04 lts not working. any one have this issue?
[14:28] <g0th> ntzrmtthihu777: how is that supposed to work? the folders aleady exist
[14:28] <g0th> I tried to use rsync
[14:28] <g0th> but it somehow doesn't work with cifs
[14:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: it will move the contents of backup.... oh wait, you mean backup and backup/backup have the same folders?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> g0th  rsync -a copies only what's changed, it's called 'incremental'
[14:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> oh wow, I think the usb stick somehow fixed itself 0_0
[14:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> What filesystem is a liveusb supposed to be?
[14:31] <CalimeroTeknik> any.
[14:31] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: usually fat32
[14:31] <CalimeroTeknik> you'll find UDF, ext2, vfat…
[14:31] <g0th> MonkeyDust, ntzrmtthihu777: when I use rsync my system frooze I wasn't even able to kill the rsync process
[14:31] <auronandace> ntzrmtthihu777: oops, sorry, i thought you meant a normal usb stick (not a live system)
[14:31] <KriSHanSin> ntzrmtthihu777: w95 FAT 32 bootable
[14:31] <g0th> I did a reboot (which also failed) so I just pressed the power button
[14:31] <g0th> then it finally booted
[14:32] <g0th> and now it's fine again I hope
[14:32] <deanrock0> ntzrmtthihu777: ubuntu has some kind of usb installer that should also work with other iso files
[14:32] <g0th> by "frooze" I mean nothing related to the cifs share worked anymore
[14:32] <deanrock0> ntzrmtthihu777: or you can just dd in most cases
[14:32] <CalimeroTeknik> is there a command to import the repos' keys or something? I just ran debootstrap to get a minimal ubuntu 12.04 install, but I get "WARNING: packages cannot be authenticated!" when I chroot and want to install something
[14:33] <g0th> is there a similar command like rsync for "moving" files?
[14:33] <g0th> so I don't have to copy 1TB?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> g0th  rsync is the fastest, easiest and most versatile way
[14:34] <cloneG> hi there
[14:34] <cloneG> http://askubuntu.com/questions/155151/how-to-set-multiple-timezones-in-gnome-classic
[14:34] <CalimeroTeknik> rsync is what you want; if it isn't, there is no answer
[14:34] <g0th> MonkeyDust: but it _copies_ the data
[14:34] <g0th> ok so I guess I can just copy them
[14:34] <cloneG> I would like to add some more date time locations to my indicator applet
[14:34] <g0th> not move them
[14:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> deanrock0: yeah, I use it all the time, but this is after finally getting this damn usb stick working again :P
[14:35] <g0th> if I want to move them I'd have to do it manually
[14:35] <g0th> maybe by writing some script
[14:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: would not be too hard of a bash script, you know :P
[14:35] <cloneG> my indicator applet is not as complete as the one in this post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155151/how-to-set-multiple-timezones-in-gnome-classic
[14:35] <ikonia> g0th: there is a "delete source" option for rsync
[14:35] <cloneG> using ubuntu 12.04 gnome session fallback macosx lion them
[14:35] <cloneG> theme
[14:36] <ikonia> g0th: so as it copies them it removes the source
[14:36] <g0th> which doesn't help ^
[14:36] <g0th> the point was to save time by just moving files
[14:36] <ikonia> cloneG: suggest you disable the theme and go back to stanrd theme and test it
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> g0th  try rsync -a --delete [from] [to]
[14:36] <ikonia> g0th: copy+remove source = move
[14:36] <g0th> ah :)
[14:36] <g0th> so it does move them
[14:36] <cloneG> done not working
[14:36] <g0th> that's very nice to know
[14:37] <CalimeroTeknik> will it really just mv the files?
[14:37] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: no
[14:37] <cloneG> it seems I have not the same applet installed
[14:37] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: it will copy them and remove the source
[14:37] <cloneG> how do I install clock applet?
[14:37] <g0th> mv bigfile bigfile2 => instant, cp bigfile bigfile2 => very slow
[14:37] <ikonia> g0th: no it doesn't
[14:37] <ikonia> g0th: it's because it's doing a checksum
[14:37] <jlebrech> what's the command to mount an external hdd with write permissions?
[14:37] <ikonia> g0th: that is the real delay, which with 1TB of data you want to do
[14:37] <g0th> ikonia: I put --size-only
[14:38] <ikonia> g0th: ok - then just "mv direcotory new_place"
[14:38] <CalimeroTeknik> jlebrech, you're willing to mount an NTFS filesystem.
[14:38] <CalimeroTeknik> install ntfs-3g.
[14:38] <g0th> ikonia: but the new place contains the same directories
[14:38] <ikonia> g0th: rm old directories
[14:38] <g0th> they are already filled up to 2TB
[14:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I believe g0th has a matching dir tree in backup and backup/backup, would this not be a problem?
[14:39] <CalimeroTeknik> this is specific to NTFS, jlebrech, there is no driver that supports writing, so you have to use ntfs-3g
[14:39] <g0th> I just wanted to know how to "rsync move" files
[14:39] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: not with flags such as "-f"
[14:39] <ikonia> g0th: yes, and I've just told you how to do it, but you are complaining it's too slow
[14:39] <g0th> ikonia: ok I will copy them
[14:39] <CalimeroTeknik> ikonia, you didn't, your command copies then deletes
[14:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: you could use fdupes to delete all the exact duplicate files first and try it then :)
[14:39] <CalimeroTeknik> it doesn't move
[14:39] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: that is the move
[14:40] <CalimeroTeknik> yes, but imagine the space for the file isn't even available on the disk
[14:40] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: -n will stop existing files being overwritten with a mv
[14:40] <usuario> aiara fernanda kotula maizuk
[14:40] <CalimeroTeknik> then your command will fail out of disk space, and mv will work
[14:40] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: it doesn't use the space, as it deletes as ti copies
[14:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: hell fdupes is an awesome tool anyways, lol.
[14:40] <g0th> but it doesn't solve the issue
[14:40] <KriSHanSin> how do i get ubuntu one back if i purged it ?
[14:41] <g0th> two issues: first of copy might require too much space (solved by deleting source), 2nd issue: when I rsync dir2 to dir1 the time is linear in the amount of data to copy
[14:41] <CalimeroTeknik> what? does it gradually resize the file, ikonia ? afaik it's deleted in the end.
[14:41] <g0th> if I would move the files it is essentially instant
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> it would probly take a while due to the size of the drive, but it would delete all exact duplicate files, freeing up some (and maybe alot of) space, making the cp/del command work right
[14:41] <ikonia> g0th: but then it wouldn't do any of the things you want such as comparing against what's there or not deleting the original
[14:41] <KriSHanSin> oh wait i got it
[14:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: here, lemme ssh in and I'll fix it for you ;) XD
[14:41] <ikonia> g0th: just do a mv -n if you don't want to overwrite
[14:42] <ikonia> g0th: you have to accept that "mv" is different than what you want so stop comparing it
[14:42] <g0th> hmm can "mv" move a folder "on top" of a folder which has the same layout?
[14:42] <ikonia> g0th: not withtout overwriting it
[14:42] <CalimeroTeknik> only cp -r can do that
[14:42] <g0th> overwriting is ok
[14:42] <ikonia> g0th: then yes
[14:42] <ikonia> g0th: man mv
[14:42] <ikonia> mv -f
[14:42] <g0th> just not deleting stuff
[14:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> g0th: nah, if they have the same name it should place the moved folder into the other one
[14:43] <g0th> "only delete by overwriting"
[14:43] <ikonia> g0th: what ?
[14:43] <g0th> dir1/a, dir1/b,  dir2/a, dir2/b   how can I "move" dir1 to dir2?
[14:44] <ikonia> g0th: mv -f dir1 dir2
[14:44] <g0th> and what will that do?
[14:44] <overdub> g0th, maybe you want to use rsync instead, then delete the originals?
[14:44] <g0th> doing it right now
[14:44] <g0th> eta is a week
[14:44] <CalimeroTeknik> it does indeed work if you use mv -f, g0th
[14:44] <ikonia> g0th: no it' snot
[14:44] <ThePendulum> The fingerprint reader no longer works in Ubuntu, it isn't detected by Fingerprint-gui. Any ideas?
[14:44] <ikonia> g0th: man mv
[14:44] <g0th> CalimeroTeknik: thanks!
[14:45] <CalimeroTeknik> wait, mv -f isn't recursive
[14:45] <CalimeroTeknik> it will just error
[14:45] <g0th> so what I will do is:  "mv -f backup/backup/ backup/" and then I "rsync -avP --size-only  original_source/ backup/" ?
[14:45] <g0th> arg
[14:45] <CalimeroTeknik> it won't hurt, but it just won't work
[14:45] <g0th> taht's what I though
[14:46] <g0th> that is an interesting problem
[14:46] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[14:46] <g0th> is there no "rsync with move capabilities"?
[14:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> how does one use dd to make a live usb of an ubuntu iso?
[14:46] <ikonia> g0th: rsync = syncronize not move
[14:46] <g0th> so there is not?
[14:46] <ikonia> g0th: you've been given 3 - 4 options to resolve your problem, and you find off problems with them
[14:46] <CalimeroTeknik> well, I understand g0th's issue ikonia, it's performance, not result
[14:47] <g0th> ikonia: yeah nothing of the 3-4 options solves the issue
[14:47] <ikonia> g0th: they do
[14:47] <CalimeroTeknik> well actually the result can also be unidentiical if a file is bigger than the remaining disk space
[14:47] <CalimeroTeknik> ^ ikonia
[14:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: you're too arrogant. what part of not working to how g0th needs it don't you get? they are the one sitting at the pc viewing the issue, and are in best position to say what does or does not work in said situation.
[14:48] <CalimeroTeknik> copying a file needs two times the disk space for it.
[14:48] <g0th> I mean my problem is a valid one, and I guess there is simply no available solution, so I just stick to the slower solution which works but just takes more time
[14:48] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: then explain to me how it's not workoing
[14:48] <g0th> I was just curious if it was possible which is imo a valid question
[14:48] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: if you understand why none of the solutions are not working for him are not working, please enlighten me
[14:49] <CalimeroTeknik> ikonia, I tested it → using rsync with -delete option needs to have as much free FS space as the file is big.
[14:49] <ntzrmtthihu777> ikonia: I don;t need to, g0th did. and I can't, as I'm not sitting at said pc.
[14:49] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: yes, and the reasons he's given for not working don't make sense - hence why I'm questioning them
[14:49] <Walex2> g0th: was loking at your previous messages briefly...
[14:49] <ikonia> ntzrmtthihu777: hence why I'm saying "stop comparing your problem to "mv"" as it's not the same situation
[14:49] <CalimeroTeknik> ikonia, you ignoring me?
[14:49] <g0th> ikonia: all solutions involved copying a file or some usage of "mv" that does not work recusively
[14:49] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: no
[14:49] <Walex2> g0th: your main problem is that "eta is a week
[14:49] <ikonia> g0th: mv will work recurisvly if you copy the top folder, it takes all the children with it
[14:50] <Walex2> g0th: can you restate briefly your issue for me, giving the number of entities involved and the storage system profile?
[14:50] <g0th> ikonia: I have essentially two almost identical directory hierarchies, how can I "move one into the other"? it doesn't seem to work with "mv -f"
[14:50] <CalimeroTeknik> ikonia, if the subfolders already exist it won't merge the contents
[14:51] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: mv is not a "merge" tool, hence why I keep saying "stop comparing it to mv"
[14:51] <Walex2> g0th: you want to *merge* the two tree, directory-by-directory?
[14:51] <leehambley> I'm looking for a way to image a system that is already installed (to save time) and prepare that image as a re-installable image, is that possible?
[14:51] <CalimeroTeknik> yep. so we have no solution to the problem.
[14:51] <ikonia> g0th: that's merging - that's not moving, that's why I keep saying "stop comparing to mv"
[14:51] <g0th> Walex2: yes essentially
[14:51] <Walex2> g0th: how many files and directories are you trying to merge?
[14:51] <g0th> Walex2: well in essence I want the same result as rsync but without copying instead with moving
[14:52] <g0th> Walex2: roughly 2 TB
[14:52] <Walex2> g0th: BTW the *obvious* solution is 'cp -al' or 'cp -alf'.
[14:52] <CalimeroTeknik> cp -a is enough
[14:52] <g0th> but that will take a looong time
[14:52] <CalimeroTeknik> however it needs the disk space and time
[14:52] <ikonia> Walex2: copy is unacceptble - has to be move.......for him
[14:52] <Walex2> CalimeroTeknik: 'cp -a' not move, it copies.
[14:52] <g0th> and it will require twice the amount of disc space
[14:52] <Walex2> ikonia: 'man cp'
[14:52] <g0th> and how does it merge?
[14:52] <ikonia> Walex2: I know how to use cp
[14:52] <CalimeroTeknik> I just said so, Walex2
[14:53] <g0th> well it's fine I will just wait a little longer
[14:53] <Walex2> g0th: what you do is merge-by-linking, and then you remove te original.
[14:53] <g0th> now I'm just curious if it is possible
[14:53] <g0th> am I not allowed to be curious?
[14:53] <Walex2> g0th: but the issue is not how to do it, it is the speed.
[14:53] <g0th> yes!
[14:53] <g0th> the move command is fast
[14:53] <g0th> the copy command is slow
[14:53] <CalimeroTeknik> you're going to have to use find -exec mv
[14:54] <Walex2> g0th: please read 'man cp'.
[14:54] <Walex2> CalimeroTeknik: please read 'man cp' as 'find -exec mv' does something quite different
[14:54] <CalimeroTeknik> Walex2, man cp is of no use for this case
[14:55] <ikonia> CalimeroTeknik: it is, if you read what's being suggested
[14:55] <ikonia> but as the focus just keeps being told "no I want to move", it's pointless to discuss it
[14:55] <Walex2> CalimeroTeknik: please read 'man pc', option '-l, --link'
[14:55] <CalimeroTeknik> oh, yeah
[14:55] <CalimeroTeknik> that is one neat idea
[14:55] <Walex2> ahhhh :-)
[14:55] <chamunks> how do i add openvpn to this list http://imgur.com/zW6MAPK
[14:56] <g0th> hmm it is on a cifs share
[14:56] <g0th> I don't think hard links work?
[14:56] <CalimeroTeknik> ha ha. use a real FS
[14:56] <g0th> its on a NAS
[14:56] <Walex2> g0th: are souce and destination in the same filesystem?
[14:56] <CalimeroTeknik> ssh the NAS
[14:56] <g0th> yes
[14:56] <Walex2> g0th: then hadlinking works...
[14:56] <CalimeroTeknik> even over cifs ?
[14:56] <g0th> hmm, ok I can try
[14:57] <CalimeroTeknik> I thought you tried and it didn't work
[14:57] <utusan> how can move be faster than copy? when move is 'copy then delete'?
[14:57] <g0th> but still, does recursive cp work?
[14:57] <g0th> I would need to use rsync with hardlink?
[14:57] <g0th> no?
[14:57] <CalimeroTeknik> utusan, move just creates a reference to an inode
[14:57] <g0th> I am still very suspicious if recursive copy work as intended
[14:57] <Walex2> utusan: 'move' means 'link'+'unlink'
[14:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> beware botched find commands, lol. I deleted the entire contents of a usb with it, fortunately I was able to recover the contents
[14:57] <CalimeroTeknik> with copy, a new inode is created and the contents of the file are duplicated, utusan
[14:57] <Walex2> utusan: 'cp -al' means 'recursive link', then one can do 'recursive unlink'
[14:58] <g0th> e.g. dir1/a/file1, dir1/a/file2 dir2/a/file1 dir2/a/file3, if I "cp -rl dir2 dir1" what will I get?
[14:59] <ikonia> g0th: just do a while loop and use "mv"
[14:59] <Walex2> g0th: you will get 'file1', 'file2', 'file3' in 'dir2/a/',
[14:59] <ikonia> it's getting tedious now
[14:59] <CalimeroTeknik> how do I solve "WARNING: the following packages cannot be authenticated!" ?
[14:59] <Walex2> g0th: note that files with the same name in the same directory will cause ambifuity.
[14:59] <g0th> ikonia: that's finally something that probably works, but the specifics of the while loop are missing
[14:59] <CalimeroTeknik> it's a fresh chroot made with debootstrap
[14:59] <g0th> Walex2: I guess with -n then not
[15:00] <utusan> CalimeroTeknik: makes sense :)
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> I reckon it doesn't have signature keys
[15:00] <g0th> Why doesn't the same work with mv?
[15:00] <qkit> morning
[15:00] <Walex2> g0th: your options are '-f', '-n' or '-b'
[15:00] <g0th> why do I need to cpy with hard link instead of issuing the same command with mv?
[15:00] <g0th> -f?
[15:00] <CalimeroTeknik> g0th, same result anyway.
[15:01] <CalimeroTeknik> references have almost no cost
[15:01] <Walex2> g0th: your options are '-f', '-n', -i' or '-b'
[15:01] <qkit> guys how can i install a pacakge by turning on some feature? rather then install from source?
[15:01] <g0th> I don't get -b if I have -n?
[15:01] <Walex2> qkit: use the package manager of your choice.
[15:01] <g0th> also I don't get -i with -n
[15:01] <g0th> and why do I need -f?
[15:01] <g0th> I don't want to remove anything
[15:01] <Walex2> g0th: well, they are *alternatives* with different effects.
[15:01] <qkit> i use apt-get does it come with option where by i can turn on some feature when it install the package?
[15:01] <g0th> ah!
[15:01] <g0th> -n then
[15:02] <g0th> mv -ran dir2 dir1?
[15:02] <Walex2> qkit: what kind of features do you mean?
[15:02] <CalimeroTeknik> recompile, qkit. run debcheckout packagename
[15:02] <qkit> oh
[15:02] <genii> qkit: Usually you configure whatever apps get installed by their configuration file in the /etc directory
[15:02] <g0th> mv -an dir2 dir1
[15:02] <Walex2> g0th: 'mv' does not have an '-r' option
[15:02] <CalimeroTeknik> but  then it's a living hell, debian's packaging is extremely difficult qkit.
[15:02] <qkit> i try to --enable-storeio=coss in my squid3 , but i found the default installation in squid3 doesnt come with --enable-storeio=coss
[15:03] <g0th> oh
[15:03] <g0th> so that's why I can't use mv
[15:03] <g0th> so I do cp -ranl dir2 dir1; rm -r dir2?
[15:03] <Walex2> g0th: you have to use 'cp -r -l ....' and them 'rm -r ...'
[15:03] <Walex2> g0th: yes, but if you do that you lose the files in 'dir1' that have the same path in 'dir2'.
[15:03] <g0th> and hope that it works with cifs
[15:04] <utusan> qkit: try re-building pkg yourself
[15:04] <g0th> Walex2: why? I use -n?
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> qkit, you can look for the target "override_dh_auto_configure:" in debian/rules (create it if it doesn't exist) and change thee options then run dpkg-buildpackage -b
[15:04] <qkit> utusan: err...any good links for that
[15:04] <CalimeroTeknik> *hope* it will work. speaking from two weeks of experience of debian packaging
[15:05] <qkit> errr..where can i find this target "override_dh_auto_configure:" ? was it the config in the source package?
[15:05] <Walex2> g0th: if you use '-n' then any files in 'dir1' that have the same name do not get linked over, and when you remove 'dir1' they get deleted too, because they are not linked in 'dir2'
[15:05] <utusan> qkit search re-building deb package
[15:05] <qkit> thanks utusan
[15:05] <g0th> Walex2: I remove dir2
[15:05] <Walex2> g0th: BTW, is this CIFS from a Samba server or a MS-Windows server
[15:05] <CalimeroTeknik> qkit, I told you, it's in debian/rules
[15:05] <g0th> samba server
[15:05] <CalimeroTeknik> qkit, I said run debchechout package
[15:05] <Walex2> g0th: sorry, I had not noticed you want to merger 'dir2' into 'dir1' instead of viceversa.
[15:06] <CalimeroTeknik> qkit, if you read what I told you, you can succeed. if you don't, you probably won't.
[15:06] <qkit> ok thanks...downloading the require tools :P
[15:06] <g0th> so cp -ranl dir2 dir1; rm -r dir2; should work?
[15:06] <CalimeroTeknik> how do I solve "WARNING: the following packages cannot be authenticated!" in a fresh debootstrap'ed chroot?
[15:06] <columb> Hey, can I use 1gb flash stick for ubuntu installation? .iso file is only 785MB but ubuntu.com says that I need at least 2GB.
[15:06] <Walex2> g0th: so if you do 'cp -ranl dir2 dir1; rm -r dir2' any files that have the same name, the file in 'dir2' disappears
[15:06] <g0th> that's essentially the same as rsync with "move instead of copy"
[15:06] <utusan> qkit: there are dpkg-buils tools
[15:06] <utusan> build*
[15:07] <CalimeroTeknik> already gave him the instructions and commands to run, utusan ;)
[15:07] <utusan> ok
[15:07] <Walex2> g0th: but notice that if you want to do over CIFS from Samba it will work, if the mount uses POSIX extensions (which are the default).
[15:07] <g0th> Walex2: yes, so if there is a file in dirr1 which was not copied perfectly but the one in dir2 was then I lose that information
[15:07] <g0th> but at the end I can run rsync again to check if anything is missing
[15:07] <g0th> (with --size-only to save time)
[15:07] <Walex2> g0th: but doing it over CIFS will be enormously slower than doing it on the server.
[15:08] <g0th> Walex2: yes :(
[15:08] <g0th> but I don't want to mess with the server
[15:08] <qkit> yup, downloading all the necessary tools now
[15:08] <Walex2> g0th: doing it over CIFS or the server is the same as to risks.
[15:08] <CalimeroTeknik> so does anybody know how to import the keys or something when getting "WARNING: the following packages cannot be authenticated!" in a fresh debootstrap'ed chroot?
[15:08] <g0th>  it on the server I would first need to upload a custom firmware/etc
[15:09] <g0th> to get direct access
[15:09] <Walex2> CalimeroTeknik: you can copy into the 'chroot' the GPG archive of the containing system
[15:09] <g0th> which voids my warranty
[15:09] <Walex2> g0th: is this a kind of NAS appliance?
[15:09] <g0th> what do you mean?
[15:09] <g0th> anyway, I have a solution now I think :)
[15:09] <CalimeroTeknik> Walex2, except the containing system is arch linux, I guess that won't do.
[15:09] <Walex2> g0th:  a little self-contained box with disks in it that you can only ccess over net, like QNAP or others make
[15:10] <CalimeroTeknik> I expected debootstrap to install these
[15:10] <elisa87> do you know why I can't do the sudo apt-get upgrade? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5795741/ Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/cups-browsed_1.0.34-0ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb
[15:10] <g0th> wow cp -arnl dir2 dir1 was instant
[15:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> qkit: here: http://is.gd/D3tehj
[15:10] <morpheus7> whois
[15:10] <g0th> if that really worked that would be amazing
[15:10] <qkit> oh thanks
[15:10] <Walex2> CalimeroTeknik: then you need to network the VM
[15:10] <qkit> wow..thanks alot guys
[15:10] <ntzrmtthihu777> CalimeroTeknik: what kinda vm? I may have what you need :P
[15:10] <CalimeroTeknik> well, you mean the chroot
[15:11] <Walex2> g0th: you can discover which files were not linked over.
[15:11] <Walex2> g0th: find dir1 -type f -links -2
[15:11] <g0th> I just try to run rsync now, which should do almost nothing
[15:11] <CalimeroTeknik> I just ran debootstrap --variant=minbase --arch=amd64 precise chroot/
[15:12] <CalimeroTeknik> and then mount dev proc sys… apt-get install nano and it complains about not validating, I guess it's missing keys
[15:12] <CalimeroTeknik> it's just a guess, the error message isn't explicit
[15:12] <g0th> Walex2: it gives me a huge list, hmm
[15:13] <g0th> but rsync isn't doing anything atm which is (hopefully) a good sign
[15:13] <g0th> I wonder how rsync deals with hardlinks from dir2 to dir1
[15:13] <Alternate> Looking for good burning software, need to make 50 copys of 1 dvd, what would be the best way to do this
[15:14] <g0th> for a completely legal purpose of course *g*
[15:14] <Alternate> Yeah pictures from my sons birthday for the family
[15:14] <g0th> sure :)
[15:15] <Alternate> Could anyone help me out
[15:15] <My_Name_Is_John> Hello1
[15:15] <g0th> I guess you first create the image you want to burn and then just keep burning it
[15:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> Alternate: brasero does good, assuming its an iso. if you have a physical dcd to copy use dd to copy it to iso :P
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Alternate: ask and see
[15:15] <andygraybeal> Alternate,  yea what g0th said
[15:16] <andygraybeal> working with a cd image is easiest i would assume too
[15:16] <Walex2> g0th: find dir2 -type f -links -2
[15:16] <Walex2> g0th: I keep forgetting that 'dir2' is the source, not the destination...
[15:16] <Alternate> The dvd contains video files that can be played on a dvd player
[15:16] <Alternate> so making an iso would be good?
[15:16] <Alternate> and then keep burning that iso
[15:17] <andygraybeal> that's probably what i'd do
[15:17] <Walex2> Alternate: making an *image* would be good. Must video players can play random movie files on an ISO image, but video DVDs are supposed to be in UDF format.
[15:17] <ntzrmtthihu777> Alternate: yep, would be best. anywho, later all :P
[15:17] <Walex2> Alternate: several tools allow you to create an image that is both in ISO and UDF format.
[15:18] <g0th> Walex2: it also gives me a huge list
[15:18] <g0th> Walex2: I guess that means a lot of files were present in both
[15:18] <g0th> Walex2: (in which case -n would prevent the creation of the hard link)
[15:19] <g0th> so I could try the same with -f instead of -n but that's a bit more risky ^^
[15:19] <d4rkn30> is there a way to create a laucher to open the terminal with sudo -i ?
[15:21] <iceroot> d4rkn30: gnome-terminal -e "sudo -i"  but that in your launcher
[15:21] <iceroot> put
[15:21] <d4rkn30> iceroot, Thanks m8
[15:21] <d4rkn30> iceroot, coundnt remember the terminal's main name
[15:22] <SKYLAKE-10nm> !seen wave
[15:23] <steve_fi> I have a problem with my NFS client that I'm wondering if somebody could help me with, I can mount it using "sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 server:/ /media/disk2" but I can't get it to mount in /etc/fstab with the following line "server:/  /media/disk2 nfs auto 0 0", I get the error when mounting, "mount:  only root can mount"
[15:24] <CalimeroTeknik> steve_fi, add user to the options
[15:25] <steve_fi> CalimeroTeknik, you mean user in the line in /etc/fstab?
[15:26] <CalimeroTeknik> if that's what you want to do, that is.
[15:26] <CalimeroTeknik> but it seemed so to me
[15:26] <steve_fi> well, I've set it up without authentication, and I've never needed to have a user there before
[15:26] <CalimeroTeknik> maybe you have to be part of some group, but that's essentially it, see man mount
[15:27] <d4rkn30> iceroot, now is there a way to insert the pwd without having to type it out
[15:27] <CalimeroTeknik> "mount:  only root can mount" → add user to the mount options in the fstab line
[15:27] <CalimeroTeknik> that's all there is to it.
[15:28] <CalimeroTeknik> or use sudo.
[15:29] <steve_fi> pardon my stupidity or perhaps my ignorance to this, but I thought that NFS didn't need to do that since it's a kernel level driver?
[15:30] <steve_fi> and I thought that fstab always automatically mounted "disks" regardless of the user?
[15:30] <neopsyche> grub loader not showing kernel!?
[15:31] <CalimeroTeknik> steve_fi, yes it will be mounted at boot, but if it isn't, and you want to mount it manually, either you get root or add user
[15:31] <iceroot> d4rkn30: dont do that
[15:32] <iceroot> d4rkn30: its unsecure to disable the password for using sudo so please dont do it
[15:32] <steve_fi> guess it's time to try a reboot then!
[15:33] <d4rkn30> iceroot, i dont mean disabling it completely i just mean in the launcher is there a way to add the password so i dont have to type it out all the time, Something like the root-terminal in Debian
[15:33] <iceroot> d4rkn30: no you cant add the password
[15:34] <iceroot> d4rkn30: and if you could add the password, it would be there in plaintext readable for everyone
[15:34] <iceroot> d4rkn30: something like sudo -i < passowrd (not workin) but i hope you get what i mean
[15:34] <holstein> d4rkn30: you can add a launcher to run sudo -i in a terminal, and type the password once
[15:34] <jrib> d4rkn30: why do you want this?  You really shouldn't need to be doing things with sudo so often that it becomes a burden
[15:35] <d4rkn30> iceroot, alright thanks, and im the only one that has access to this computer, but i do know what you mean,
[15:35] <holstein> d4rkn30: you want to have that level of protection.. you dont want to have anyone or anything be able to sneak around the password for sudo and get admin..
[15:35] <iceroot> d4rkn30: just type in your password if you need to use sudo
[15:35] <holstein> d4rkn30: you are not the only one with access to that computer, if you are online
[15:35] <MonkeyDust> d4rkn30  you rarely need/use sudo, there's really no need to mess with it
[15:36] <d4rkn30> jrib, i work alot with Kali and encrypted documents , and it becomes a pain in the butt, yes i do know about MC and all that fun stuff,
[15:37] <jrib> d4rkn30: I don't know what Kali is but can't you encrypt your documents as your user without sudo?
[15:37] <holstein> d4rkn30: Kali is not supported here, and is not something that is (afaik) expected to be used as a desktop
[15:37] <d4rkn30> jrib, yes but it wont let me view or move them without being root
[15:38] <jrib> d4rkn30: what is "it"?
[15:38] <holstein> d4rkn30: sudo -i, and leave that open.. and you only have to put the password in once... you can run it in screen
[15:38] <d4rkn30> jrib, Kali is a pentest distrub, the succesor to backtrack
[15:38] <dreaser>  /msg NickServ identify 10ayn3
[15:38] <iceroot> d4rkn30: we only support ubuntu here
[15:38] <d4rkn30> holstein, Omg! i never thought about that,
[15:38] <dreaser> hi
[15:38] <jrib> d4rkn30: if you encrypt them as root, then it makes sense you would need to be root to read them.  So don't encrypt them as root.  But it seems like you are not using ubuntu?
[15:38] <auronandace> dreaser: do that outside a channel (also change your password)
[15:38] <Ogham> How do I configure nautilus to mount a ufs2 filesystem upon clicking the device? It is missing the required parameters (I currently use sudo mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/sdb1 /target) ?
[15:39] <holstein> d4rkn30: ouch.. check with #freenode about changing that password ASAP ..and identify in the server window in the future
[15:39] <holstein> dreaser: ^^
[15:40] <d4rkn30> iceroot, jrib i do use Ubuntu on my Desktop that was the whole problem, Lappy = Kali Desktop = Xubuntu
[15:40] <Dr_willis> Ogham,  make a script to automate it.. or check into changeing udev rules for that device perhaps to use the right options, or make a fstab entry perhaps.
[15:40] <jrib> d4rkn30: ok so the only reason you need to use sudo a lot is to encrypt documents?  Encrypt documents as your user, then you can access the files as your user too and don't need sudo
[15:41] <Ogham> Dr_willis: ah, cheers - I'll check udev first, sounds promising :)
[15:41] <holstein> dont encrypt as root d4rkn30 ...you might be assuming that makes it "safer", but its just adding the hassle that you are uncomfortable with
[15:42] <d4rkn30> holstein, i was just thinking about that, ill need to create a sux user in kali with this username,
[15:42] <d4rkn30> Thanks Yall for the support yall are a great comunity
[15:45] <pyasi> ActionParsnip: man, i had a power-cut, so can't note the code, please can u say it again, if u remember me
[15:46] <Dr_willis> Every so often i 'have' to work on someones windows machine.. and im reminded of how much better linux is... ;P
[15:46] <thiebaude> ^^
[15:46] <d4rkn30> Dr_willis, im trying to move all my friends to linux but theyre stubborn
[15:46] <Dr_willis> 'installing update 2 of 17.......' been like that for almost 30 min now....
[15:47] <Dr_willis> Grandson is going to use this one for his Home-schooling - so he 'has' to have windows on it.   ;P
[15:50] <d4rkn30> wheatthin, sorry had to add my two cents xD
[15:50] <genii> Dr_willis: ( this is not including the CHKDSK time either)
[15:50] <Dr_willis> 'better to be informed  by your system' then be in the total dark and call it 'user friendly'
[15:51] <wheatthin> Dr_willis, take it to ubuntu-offtopic.. inform there
[15:52] <Dr_willis> Just seems Linux is trying  to hard to go that route at times also.
[15:52] <Dr_willis> back to work ;P
[15:52] <thiebaude> quidsup, you the same one on youtube?
[15:54] <quidsup> he thiebaude
[15:54] <thiebaude> hey
[15:55] <ehhh> what's the best way of installing ubuntu with usb or cd? I could only fit 12.04 on cd and can problaby get latest onto a pendrive, but if cd i guess updating isn't the hardest thing yet
[15:56] <Dr_willis> ehhh,  usb is normally faster i find. and 12.10+ required a DVD or usb
[15:56] <holstein> ehhh: "best" is a matter of opinion and depends on the situtaion
[15:56] <Dr_willis> ehhh,  use of optical disks - is getting rarer these days
[15:57] <peterbjornx> b
[15:57] <holstein> yeah.. i can only think of maybe older usb 1.1 where i would prefer CD rom, that that doesnt happen often
[15:57] <Dr_willis> plus a live-peristant usb flash drive is a very handy tool.
[15:57] <Dr_willis> any pc with usb 1.1  may be so old that  it wouldent have the PAE enabled cpu - and be stuck with 12.04 anyway ;P
[15:58] <ehhh> so i can get it done a bit faster with usb if i've got 2.0 (are the slots colour coded like usb 3 is blue?)
[15:58] <dreaser> holstein, thanks, I'm new to IRC
[15:58] <holstein> dreaser: no worries.. must make sure you change that password
[15:59] <FiremanEd>  /away away
[15:59] <dreaser> holstein, yes it's done
[15:59] <holstein> ehhh: you might get it done faster from CD, if you are more comfortable using CD's and you can figure out how to boot CD's
[16:00] <ehhh> yes i like cd's, burn and use, hassle free :P not too much hassle to get the usb booting though, install and use :P
[16:00] <Dr_willis> ive seen major hassles gettings cd burnt and used in here.
[16:00] <ForSpareParts> Has anyone here run ubuntu as a VM under an OSX host? I'm trying to figure out how to forward my mouse's thumb buttons.
[16:01] <Dr_willis> people seem to have the idea that you can 'drag/drop' the .iso file onto a CD/DVD and it should be bootable. ;)
[16:01] <ehhh> yeah for some reason my drive on this laptop won't properly burn dvd's (they burn the data which is visible on the disc, but it won't boot anything and the image won't work properly) so i ran out of dvds and had to use a cd-rom instead with the extended support version of ubuntu
[16:02] <feisar> hi, just installed 13.04 on a netbook for a friend but it's pretty much unusable due to the graphics, is there anyway to fix that or is Ubuntu no use for netbooks anymore?
[16:02] <dreaser> do you know where I can find the drivers for an Intel graphics HD 4000 for Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:02] <Dr_willis> i belive there may be more then 1 laser in some of those drives.
[16:02] <Dr_willis> dreaser,  shoule be built in, there is also the xswat ppa that has updated drivers.. and I belive INTEL has a site/script for updateing their drivers
[16:02] <holstein> dreaser: intel drivers that can be included are typically included by default
[16:02] <ehhh> dr_willis: lol, well it's almost that easy, drag/drop it to imgburn/whatever and burn :P
[16:03] <utusan> why not use usb-creator?
[16:03] <Dr_willis> ehhh,  ive seen people have such weird issues in windows trying to burn ISO files..  had a guy yelling at us mad in here once because ubuntu was Demanding $$ to  make the ISO file to disk.. turned out winrar was opening his ISO file..
[16:03] <Dr_willis> ehhh,  took us forver to figure out what he was saying/doing
[16:04] <ehhh> utusan: that was my original question :P i've failed at installing it to my laptop and just dragged out my stationary computer for a resfreshment
[16:04] <Dr_willis> ehhh,  if you are making a bootable USb - try the tools fromt he pendrivelinux web site
[16:04] <dreaser> Dr_willis, holstein, yes sorry I mean the proprietary one, because when I boot, I have an error that say "you are in low graphic mode"
[16:04] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen lots of issues with Unetbootin and the usb-creator.
[16:05] <ehhh> Dr_willis: i've got something called "Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>"
[16:05] <adamk_> dreaser: There are no proprietary drivers for intel GPUs.
[16:05] <kuko> I'm trying to run some app in port 90, is there a problem with permissions in ubuntu? will I have any security hole if I do that? which are the recommended ports?
[16:06] <Dr_willis> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/   Intel(R) Linux* Graphics Installer version 1.0.1 - but you really shouldent need this..
[16:06] <MrChip> hi
[16:06] <Dr_willis> kuko,  totally depends on the app.
[16:06] <dreaser> adamk_, ouch, so how can I resolve this problem of "low graphic mode"?
[16:07] <MrChip> my huawei modem is not working
[16:07] <kuko> Dr_willis: it's a local app so I guess it's ok, but I don't know it's a low port and they generally recommend to leave this alone
[16:07] <MrChip> can anybody help?
[16:07] <adamk_> dreaser: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[16:07] <Dr_willis> dreaser,  id make sure the system is updated and upgraded. and check askubuntu.com and the forums to see if others have seen a similer issue. it may not be a driver issue. but a configuration issue
[16:07] <Dr_willis> kuko,  no real need for it to be using a low port.
[16:07] <ehhh> but before i install to that computer i just want to double check that there's nothing important on the c:\ drive, can you browse it with live usb/cd ? i forget
[16:07] <adamk_> dreaser: It is possible your GPU is too new to be supported by the intel driver in 12.04.
[16:08] <kuko> Dr_willis: which are the "safe" ports recommended for use?
[16:08] <Dr_willis> kuko,  any is as safe as any else.. no port is 'safer' then others...
[16:08] <Guest94609> Hi to everybody
[16:08] <Dr_willis> kuko,  USERS are allowed to access the higher ports.. standard services use the lower ports
[16:08] <ehhh> the os on it now has expired so i can't get into it without activating i'd rather just get linux running on it
[16:08] <kuko> Dr_willis: could you please tell me which are the higher ports?
[16:09] <Dr_willis> kuko,  1024+ i think.. I rarely have to worry about iot
[16:09] <Dr_willis> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers
[16:09] <Guest94609> I need help to use akregator, the feed reader. How I can to save and read news by this program?
[16:09] <SuperLag> feisar: I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 on a notebook. And to say that it might not be usable for any notebooks any more... that's pretty extreme. :)
[16:10] <kuko> Dr_willis: thanks
[16:10] <forgotmynick> Does 13.04 have integration with Google services for email, calendar etc like OS X does?
[16:11] <Dr_willis> forgotmynick,  not that ive noticed
[16:11] <Dr_willis> theres 3rd party tools of course
[16:11] <feisar> SuperLag: it is extreme but 12.04 was usable and 13.04 is not at all, it's an Eee PC Seashell, I assume it doesn't have enough graphical power for Unity
[16:11] <MrChip> how to change the usb modem from "storage" mode to "modem" mode??
[16:11] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ive had unity work fine on my netbooks
[16:12] <feisar> SuperLag: 15 seconds to bring up the dash
[16:12] <feisar> (clean install)
[16:12] <feisar> and then 5 seconds to close it
[16:14] <dreaser> adamk_, Dr_willis, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5795901/ here is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:14] <adamk_> dreaser: Just wow...   My Ethernet adapter has disappeared!
[16:15] <SuperBawlz> Not sure where to start
[16:15] <Dr_willis> tell us the kind of adaptor..
[16:15] <adamk_> dreaser: Uninstall the proprietary nvidia driver, reboot, and try again.
[16:16] <SuperBawlz> Not sure. Onboard Intel I believe.
[16:16] <dreaser> adamk_, realy? okay, I try that, thanks !
[16:16] <SuperBawlz> Hardwire
[16:16] <Dr_willis> SuperBawlz,  you really need to determine the exact chipset. You are refering to a WIRED or wireless  nic?
[16:17] <SuperBawlz> Wired.
[16:17] <SuperBawlz> Sorry. I am typing this on my cell phone.
[16:18] <SuperLag> feisar: I avoid Unity, personally.
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> SuperBawlz: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network   do you see it ?
[16:18] <SuperLag> feisar: and on something that low on resources, I would be looking for something lighter to use, anyways. I'd go with the Xubuntu variety.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> SuperBawlz: DEs are a waste imho :)
[16:19] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: compared to what? You live in CLI 100% of the time? :)
[16:19] <ehhh> WOW this pc is noisy
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: openbox :) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8850924/24thJune2013.png
[16:20] <surjeet> hi 2 all
[16:20] <asharas> Dr_willis: Hi! I found what happened yesterday ;) I screwed up with a usermod
[16:20] <surjeet> any girl want 2 chat wid me
[16:20] <SuperLag> ActionParsnip: I ran OB back in the day. It's nice and light.
[16:21] <SuperLag> haha... surjeet: go troll somewhere elsse
[16:21] <SuperLag> else
[16:21] <DJones> surjeet: This channel is for Ubuntu support
[16:21] <Dr_willis> surjeet,  no girl will want to chat with you , if you try to hit on them on irc...
[16:21] <Dr_willis> none EVER..
[16:21] <pong_> lol
[16:21] <asharas> Guys, I'm configuring a little dns cache server, but which dns should I configure on it's interface?
[16:21] <SuperLag> besides... the ones that do, they're probably not girls anyways :D
[16:22] <Pici> Can we please get back to support?
[16:23] <SuperBawlz> Yes. It's a Realtek. RTL8111/8168
[16:23] <feisar> asharas: you want a guide on setting up Bind on Ubuntu?
[16:23] <SuperBawlz> It says disabled
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> can somebody please tell me the default orange icon theme name in Ubuntu
[16:23] <asharas> feisar: it's already done, the bind9 dns works
[16:23] <asharas> feisar: but on the server eth0, which dns should I configure? localhost?
[16:23] <feisar> asharas: I miss-understood your question then
[16:23] <dreaser> adamk_, Yeah, it works !!!
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> is it 'humanity'?
[16:24] <dreaser> adamk_, Thanks !
[16:25] <asharas> feisar: in /etc/network/interfaces --> eth0 --> which dns for this one? I tryed <IP_ADDRESS> but it seems to make a big loop (I'm dumping packets to see what's going on)
[16:26] <mic1980> hey folks im back, need a little more help if possible.
[16:26] <feisar> asharas: that's correct I think, you should set the DNS server to itself on a DNS server
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> i got it
[16:26] <jbkc85> hi all, I was wondering if someone could help me troubleshoot LDAP over SSL with PHP and Ubuntu 12.04.02LTS
[16:26] <SuperBawlz> Anyone have a thought on my disabled Ethernet adapter?
[16:27] <st34lth> #bash
[16:27] <jbkc85> it was working on the previous version 11.04 for ubuntu, but nothing now…keeps rejecting the 'client' certificate
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> SuperBawlz: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network   do you see it ?