[03:25] <BlueEagle> hype: For any new partitions you'll need to add entries into /etc/fstab to have them automatically mounted to spesific mount points.
[03:25] <briguyd> Berto,  make sure you blacklist and rmmod the bcm43xx driver
[03:25] <tahorg> hype: you will have to create the partitions and to edit fstab
[03:25] <hype> what should i do: plug it in, fdisk -l and add to fstab?
[03:25] <BlueEagle> nexsan: THere should be an entry in the grub boot menu.
[03:25] <meheren> it says that it is unable to lock the suorce directory what can i do to fix that?
[03:25] <tahorg> hype: yes, or use the graphical interface
[03:25] <Berto> briguyd, well compiling ndiswrapper i'm having problems with modpost:  /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
[03:25] <nexsan> how do i access it?
[03:25] <linlin> whats the best player to play divx and xvid files with on ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> i like vlc
[03:25] <hype> and concerning formating
[03:25] <nexsan> i haven't installed the OS yet
[03:25] <Berto> briguyd, blacklist?  i've never done that, how do you blacklist a module?
[03:25] <krazykit> linlin: xine, vlc, mplayer
[03:25] <BlueEagle> hype: Well most new harddrives needs to be partitioned and formatted before you can actually use them.
[03:25] <hype> ok
[03:25] <krazykit> Berto: add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:26] <linlin> apt-get install vlc says it cant find a package
[03:26] <hype> how shoul i do thatN BlueEagle ?
[03:26] <linlin> i like vlc too
[03:26] <tahorg> hype: formating is easy
[03:26] <briguyd> Berto, no need to compile, just install ndiswrapper-utils from the repos
[03:26] <Dr_willis> !info vlc
[03:26] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:26] <Dr_willis> setup the right repos.
[03:26] <tahorg> hype: mke2fs /dev/hdxx
[03:26] <nexsan> vlc is the best
[03:26] <nexsan> i use it in windows
[03:26] <Berto> briguyd, ndiswrapper-utils is WAY old!  its like 10 versions out of date for me... what does apt-cache show that you have
[03:26] <hype> ok :]
[03:26] <Dr_willis> vlc can use a few tweaks here and tehre.. but it does play well. :P
[03:26] <BlueEagle> hype: So you might want to install it into the machine. Boot up and then run fdisk (or your favorite disk partitioner) and chop it up into useful sizes. Then it's a matter of running mk*fs where * is the filesystem of choice.
[03:27] <tahorg> hype: mke2fs -j if you want ext3
[03:27] <linlin> what repos do i have to get
[03:27] <lupine_85> not mkfs.* then? ;)
[03:27] <tahorg> with journalin
[03:27] <tahorg> g
[03:27] <meheren> how can i unlock the source dir?
[03:27] <hype> lupine_85, <3
[03:27] <tahorg> lupine_85: it's possible too
[03:27] <BlueEagle> hype: After that you might want to make mount points in /media/ and add intries in /etc/fstab to mount the partitions to the coresponding mount points.
[03:27] <lupine_85> symlinks r0x0rz
[03:27] <hype> BlueEagle, i understand this part :p
[03:27] <briguyd> Berto, to blacklist, add "blacklist bcm43xx" to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:28] <tahorg> lupine_85: mkfs.* are not symlinks
[03:28] <hype> i feel a bit confused about partionning, just dont remeber how i did t  first; used to use partition magic on Xp
[03:28] <BlueEagle> hype: Good, good. One just can't be too thurough when explainign stuff in here. Impossible to know the level of competance of all users. :)
[03:28] <meheren> how can i unlock the source dir?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> !gparted
[03:28] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[03:28] <Arrick> am i here?
[03:28] <Berto> briguyd, yep, already did it.    Question -- should i have /usr/src/linux-source   or just /usr/src/linux-headers ?  I figure i need more than just headers!
[03:28] <nexsan> could the problem be the fact that i don't have a Linux partition set on my drive?
[03:28] <BlueEagle> hype: You might want to try gparted. :)
[03:28] <hype> ^^
[03:28] <nexsan> could that be what is causing the freeze?
[03:29] <lupine_85> Berto: what are you trying to do?
[03:29] <hype> cheers BlueEagle
[03:29] <BlueEagle> hype: np. :)
[03:29] <meheren> nvm i found the file...
[03:29] <SpacePope> can somebody help me please?
[03:29] <lupine_85> linux-source is for building your own kernel. linux-headers is for building kernel modules
[03:29] <Berto> lupine_85, i want to compile ndiswrapper from sourceforge.   i am having problems, /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
[03:29] <briguyd> Berto, the version of the utils in the repos for me is 1.8-0ubuntu2
[03:29] <lupine_85> linux-headers is for you
[03:29] <Berto> lupine_85, yep, i got that.  dang.
[03:29] <nexsan> this is a little frustrating.... having to deal with windows another day....
[03:30] <lupine_85> that error message is something to do with the source
[03:30] <tahorg> wow ugly.
[03:30] <linlin> i cant install xine or vlc
[03:30] <SpacePope> when I try to update from breezy badger to dapper drake, it gives me an error saying 'could not calculate the upgrade'
[03:30] <linlin> cant find package
[03:30] <Berto> briguyd, yeah, ndiswrapper 1.23 is out...  and the repos one didn't work for me
[03:30] <lupine_85> do you have all the deps installed?
[03:30] <bruenig> !vlc
[03:30] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:30] <bruenig> !info vlc
[03:30] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[03:30] <lupine_85> SpacePope: what it says on the tin. Something is broken
[03:30] <bruenig> linlin, do you have universe enabled?
[03:30] <tahorg> !ffmpeg
[03:30] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[03:30] <lupine_85> do you have ubuntu-desktop installed?
[03:30] <briguyd> Berto, how didnt they work?
[03:30] <SpacePope> yes
[03:30] <SpacePope> i do
[03:30] <briguyd> didnt install?
[03:30] <SpacePope> i'm pretty sure
[03:30] <BlueEagle> linlin: Did you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[03:31] <linlin> i did
[03:31] <SpacePope> i don't see how it couldn't be installed
[03:31] <linlin> i un commented everythng in there
[03:31] <linlin> all the entries, not the comments of course
[03:31] <SpacePope> breezy badger is 100% upgraded
[03:31] <linlin> is thater another one i must adD?
[03:31] <BlueEagle> linlin: And even after enabling universe and doing sudo apt-get update you still can't find it?
[03:31] <hype> BlueEagle, i just found the disk manager in systel tab :p
[03:31] <lupine_85> if you remove any GUI application that came installed by default, ubuntu-desktop will go along with it
[03:31] <SpacePope> so i don't understand how it isn't working
[03:31] <lupine_85> and you have modified your sources.list appropriately?
[03:32] <BlueEagle> hype: That would be just as good, probably. :)
[03:32] <moco> hi everyone, I found a funny bug, not quite a bug, but need some confirm, can some1 here RightClick on Menu Bar and Edit Menus, then go to Office or Internet, there are 2 icons for Evolution, though 1 appears, I checked and found out that the other icon is old evo-2.2 but has not yet removed, if u check in Prefered Apps,the entry for 2.2 is also still there, isn't it a bug?
[03:32] <hype> thats what i used :D so i shoul boot and go format my disk there
[03:32] <SpacePope> first day of linux, and man am i disappointed
[03:32] <Berto> briguyd, when i'd modprobe ndiswrapper i'd get an error...   can't find that error now tho
[03:32] <hype> thx :)
[03:32] <lupine_85> well, you're only trying to use unstable beta software on your first day
[03:32] <lupine_85> what do you expect?
[03:32] <SpacePope> what beta software?
[03:32] <lupine_85> edgy...
[03:32] <hype> (btw BlueEagle gparted is installed by default? i thought it was a boot cd thing)
[03:32] <nexsan> Also, ubuntu live cd freezes when the progress bar black window shows....
[03:33] <lupine_85> I doubt you'd even think of installing the latest (broken) vista rc1
[03:33] <BlueEagle> moco: Not really as entries in the menu that are dead (ie point to non-existing files) are not listed when you actually use the menu and the old versions might not have made the menu entries correctly and thus they are set in the menu by other means.
[03:33] <SpacePope> vista?ehh?
[03:33] <krazykit> lupine_85: he said breezy to dapper...
[03:33] <BlueEagle> hype: I really do not know. I am a xubuntu man myself. :)
[03:33] <lupine_85> oh...
[03:33] <hype> ^^
[03:33] <lupine_85> sorry ;)
[03:33] <nexsan> anyone know what comes after Parport0 at boot?
[03:33] <SpacePope> lol
[03:33] <SpacePope> well
[03:33] <hype> ok thx anyway :)
[03:33] <SpacePope> any help then?
[03:33] <SpacePope> :)
[03:34] <lupine_85> erm
[03:34] <nexsan> need to disable it in the bios... feels like i'm speaking to myself...
[03:34] <lupine_85> not really sure
[03:34] <lupine_85> it should "just work"
[03:34] <writingdesk> nexsan:  did you do a checksum on the image and cd?   I had one freeze on me, and it was because the iso file was not burnt properly (even though it showed success)
[03:34] <moco> BlueEagle: I don't think so. if you remove file evo-2.2. desktop in /usr/share/applications, this will fix, i have been playingaround but none packages gone broken if that link removed
[03:34] <SpacePope> i checked 2 topics and nobody gave a good answer
[03:34] <lupine_85> you modify sources.list then run sudo apt-get update then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <SpacePope> yarg
[03:34] <lupine_85> that's all there should be to it
[03:34] <AngryElf> if IVTV is more or less a dependency for mythtv why isn't it a package? and also why then is mythtv a package?
[03:34] <SpacePope> what the hell does that mean :S
[03:34] <nexsan> no i haven't done a checksum
[03:34] <lupine_85> commands to put in a terminal window....
[03:34] <nexsan> please elaborate
[03:34] <BlueEagle> moco: Was anything broken while the link was in place?
[03:34] <Dr_willis> !mythtv
[03:34] <ubotu> mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:35] <SpacePope> i don't know one word of code besides [html]
[03:35] <linlin> http://pastebin.ca/183618
[03:35] <linlin> thyat is my sources.list
[03:35] <BlueEagle> moco: Will removing the link break a degradation to evo-2.2?
[03:35] <linlin> is it right to download VLC ?
[03:35] <Berto> briguyd, looks like i got it to compile, i had a mismatched linux-headers i believe.... oops!  thanks for the help
[03:35] <BlueEagle> berto: Good stuff.
[03:35] <moco> BlueEagle: not at all, since Evo reach up 2.8, i think the team forgot to remove it
[03:35] <SpacePope> how do i get to sources .list?
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: the freeze is both on the desktop cd and the alternative
[03:36] <Berto> BlueEagle, def.  this is a new laptop from work, partitioned it right away and would love to work from my courtyard wirelessly in linux
[03:36] <writingdesk> nexsan: For instance in k3b there is an option when you burn an iso, to do a checksum on the cd to verify the integrity.  If you do that you will ensure that the CD you are using is not broken.  Try reburning at a slow speed and verifying file integrity
[03:36] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:36] <BlueEagle> moco: But does it break evo-2.2 if you were to install an old package? Ie. might it be a backward compatibillity fix?
[03:36] <lupine_85> change all occurances of 'breezy' to 'dapper'
[03:36] <BlueEagle> moco: However if you'd like to report it as a bug then !bugs
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: ok
[03:36] <edju> Can't find this on the ubuntu site . . . I see that an install of ubuntu does not provide the kernel source.  Can I compile a vanilla kernel from kernel.org, or do I need some ubuntu pathches or other?
[03:36] <nexsan> writingdesk: i'm using nbr
[03:37] <eugman> Hey, Is it possible to set up a one computer cvs server and client?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu has some kernel patches. You can get the kernel source.
[03:37] <Dr_willis> !kernel
[03:37] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:37] <nexsan> nero burning rom
[03:37] <briguyd> Berto, cool
[03:37] <SpacePope> it said authentication rejected
[03:37] <BlueEagle> edju: To build your own kernel you'll need the kernel source tree (apparantly) and the build-essentials package.
[03:37] <SpacePope> but still opened up sources.list'-gedit
[03:37] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell edju about build-essentials
[03:38] <BlueEagle> spacepope: ALT+F2 and type in: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <nexsan> writingdesk: burning at a slower speed
[03:38] <eugman> Who has the power to add ubotu responses?
[03:38] <nexsan> see if that will work...
[03:38] <BlueEagle> spacepope: that will run gedit as root so you can save your modified sources.list file into /etc/apt/ directory.
[03:39] <SpacePope> and there was nothing in sources.list
[03:39] <nexsan> question... does cedega run well on ubuntu?
[03:39] <Dr_willis>  nexsan  yes.
[03:39] <Berto> briguyd, that's right!!  the wifi light is on in my laptop now!
[03:39] <SpacePope> in windows sp33k?
[03:39] <nexsan> awesome
[03:39] <BlueEagle> spacepope: if your sources.list is empty (make sure you didn't make a typo) then you might want to try !easysource
[03:39] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell spacepope about easysource
[03:39] <nexsan> can't wait to get rid of this
[03:40] <Jay_Levitt> Anyone know why sendmail might not be advertising STARTTLS?  I'm using a sendmail.mc that previously worked fine on Mandrake.. sendmail -d0.1 shows STARTTLS compiled in as the package advertises.
[03:40] <Berto> allright all - using kubuntu... any recommended wireless GUI apps?   i get sick of iwconfig/iwlist/etc...
[03:40] <nexsan> can i setup the partition directly from the installation, or is it necessary to create it before???
[03:40] <SpacePope> what's the 2 letter code of USA?
[03:40] <Dr_willis> !network-manager
[03:40] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[03:40] <krazykit> nexsan: cedega doesn't run well on anything, in my opinion.
[03:40] <eugman> Anyone here who can answer a few questions about cvs?
[03:41] <nexsan> krazykit: why do you say that?
[03:41] <Berto> Dr_willis - thanks... instlaling now
[03:41] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell eugman about anyone
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: I used it many years ago... more recently I'm an SVN convert, but what's up?
[03:41] <nexsan> it's always fun trying to make games work on linux...
[03:41] <krazykit> nexsan: but that's me being biased against a closed-source program that doesn't work as well as it says it did.
[03:41] <SpacePope> what is the 2 letter code for USA?
[03:41] <krazykit> SpacePope: us
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> SpacePope: us
[03:41] <Somniis> U.S.
[03:41] <nexsan> UA
[03:41] <nexsan> US
[03:41] <Jay_Levitt> Somniis: That's two letters and two dots!
[03:41] <Somniis> :P
[03:42] <SpacePope> do i check include updates and include security updates?
[03:42] <krazykit> nexsan: i never got half-life 2 working back in the 4.x days, when it was considered "out of the box"
[03:42] <krazykit> SpacePope: yeah
[03:42] <BlueEagle> spacepope: updates and security updates are generaly a good thing, yes.
[03:42] <nexsan> krazykit: i got steam running, and cs:S
[03:42] <eugman> BlueEagle, yes i know about anyone. But I don't have much of a specific question. Jay_Levitt, Let's say I have a personal computer and want to write a research paper or something else, how would I setup things to track revisions?
[03:42] <SpaceFrog> Is it possible to use VMWare or something similiar to boot my Windows OS partition within Linux?
[03:42] <nexsan> krazykit: nvidia drivers were a bit buggy at the time...
[03:43] <SpacePope> i don't know how to work source o matic :S
[03:43] <moco> BlueEagle: this is a mistake left by developers, when testing they leave evo-2.x for testing b/w 2.x versions, when finishing, they forgot to remove those 2.x links, they should only leave 1 entry as 'evolution'
[03:43] <briguyd> Berto, get it working?
[03:43] <kwtm> nexsan: I booted up my Ubuntu box.  It didn't list Parport0 or anything in as much detail; it just said things like "initializing hardware", etc.  I didn't know what button to push to make it switch to a more detailed screen.
[03:43] <krazykit> nexsan: ati drivers are always buggy and crummy
[03:43] <SpacePope> this is my first time ever using any sort of linux
[03:43] <wickedpuppy> SpaceFrog, there is vmware for linux
[03:43] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Well, for starters, any reason you decided to choose CVS?
[03:43] <Berto> briguyd, yeah, now i gotta hook up my garbage access point.  If it doesn't reach my courtyard, then I shall be buying one of those routers that you acn load linux on and pump up the signal a bit
[03:43] <kwtm> Anyway, good luck.  I have to go now.
[03:43] <BlueEagle> moco: then !bugs unless it's already filed. :)
[03:43] <nexsan> kwtm: thanks... of course it would probably list different things on your box than mine... i disabled the parport0 in the bios and it didn't list it anymore...
[03:44] <eugman> Jay_Levitt, because I am ignorant of the alternatives besides svn.
[03:44] <nexsan> i'm slow burning the iso
[03:44] <moco> BlueEagle: can you submit a bug report on this? since I don't know how, remove /usr/bin/evolution-2.2 and evolution-2.2.desktop in /usr/share/applications will fix this bug
[03:44] <nexsan> see if that works, i was burning at 40x before
[03:44] <Berto> briguyd, thanks a lot.  i'm sure i'll have more questions on the transition (longtime mandrake/mandriva user).. very impressed with ubuntu besides a few issues
[03:44] <nexsan> did a 16x now
[03:44] <eugman> I started linux about a year ago so I'm still new to all of this.
[03:44] <nexsan> let's see if this works... i'll be back in a sec with more details....
[03:44] <BlueEagle> moco: I've never reported any bugs so I don't know how either. I just know where to find information on doing that. ;)
[03:45] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Good reason :)  I think you'll find a lot more support and community for SVN than CVS... that alone might be reason to use it
[03:45] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: But at a very, very basic level: You'd set up a "repository" and a CVS/SVN server to manage it
[03:45] <SpacePope> so do i paste the source ting into sources.list?
[03:46] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: Then you use a CVS/SVN client to check your file(s) into the repository.  Each time they change, you check them in again, and the repository keeps track of the changes
[03:46] <xdx> hi
[03:46] <BlueEagle> eugman: If you don't have any spesific question to a spesific application and a spesific error or atleat generlal error then perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic might be more suiteable. :)
[03:46] <xdx> where can i find that wallpaper : http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtwody0.png ?!
[03:46] <SpacePope> can someone just help me in pm since i seem to be ignored in the main room?
[03:47] <Red-Sox> Uhm, I thought at first that just my wireless networking with this fresh install wasn't working, but it turns out the LAN line doesn't either, any ideas guys?
[03:47] <Berto> next big project will be to get kde + ubuntu + xgl + compiz working... but i won't bother y'all about that one :)
[03:47] <SpacePope> i've been in here for an hour and a half asking for help and i feel like somebody is paying attention to me for 2 minutes and then forgets about me
[03:48] <Hooveyy> Haiiii
[03:48] <Somniis> SpacePope: perhaps we don't know how to help you, so we say nothing.
[03:48] <eugman> Jay_levitt, so do you think one of the two versioning systems would be the best solution to what I want?
[03:48] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: did you get my PM?
[03:49] <Hooveyy> SpacePope: nobody has to help you.
[03:49] <Jay_Levitt> SpacePope: Yes, exactly - welcome to IRC!
[03:49] <Hooveyy> We're here because we want to help, however most of us have lives.
[03:49] <eugman> !patience
[03:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:49] <Hooveyy> See.
[03:49] <Red-Sox> *Whispers* I think he died *Whispers* >.>
[03:49] <SpacePope> well, i do go to the help channel to get help, not to be ignored ;)
[03:49] <Hooveyy> Please re-ask your question and I may be able to assist you.
[03:50] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: If people know how to help, they will, just don't complain about how no one can duplicate your problem
[03:50] <SpacePope> well, red-sox seems to be helping me in PM
[03:50] <Hooveyy> Okay, that's good.
[03:50] <Jay_Levitt> eugman: For single text files like research papers, I think they would be overkill, but I'm not sure I know a simpler solution to suggest
[03:50] <hype> if people dont answer, it often me they dont have the answer tbh :p
[03:50] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: register your nick, I can't recieve your messages
[03:50] <SpacePope> i just prefer to hear that my problem can't be fixed, instead of me waiting 30 minutes for a response
[03:50] <willzzz> btw how is ubuntu resume from hibernation progressing? i use the official nvidia driver and my screen is stuck/frozen after resuming
[03:50] <hype> -me
[03:50] <trianglemanwins> has anyone here attempted WoW on ubuntu?
[03:51] <willzzz> so I can't hibernate on my laptop :\
[03:51] <Red-Sox> receive*
[03:51] <SpacePope> how can i register my nick?
[03:51] <Hooveyy> trianglemanwins: I have on Wine
[03:51] <hype> trianglemanwins,
[03:51] <Hooveyy> I've also tried HL2.
[03:51] <hype> cedega
[03:51] <eugman> Does someone know of a system simpler than cvs/svn for tracking changes in a singles or few files?
[03:51] <Red-Sox>  /msg nickserv register _PASSWORD_
[03:51] <Hooveyy> Hmm, they didn't run so well in wine.
[03:51] <hype> (theres thread on ubuntu forums, gaming section)
[03:51] <trianglemanwins> anyone have success with wine?
[03:51] <Hooveyy> I have.
[03:51] <Hooveyy> The installs were slow.
[03:51] <willzzz> WoW works fine with cedega i heard but that isn't necessarily free
[03:51] <Hooveyy> And the games did not run so well.
[03:51] <Hooveyy> Yeah
[03:51] <Red-Sox> trianglemanwins: yeah whatcha tryin to install?
[03:51] <willzzz> you can get wine/winex working if you tweak it alot
[03:51] <Hooveyy> CEDEGA is good, however it is no longer free.
[03:52] <willzzz> im trying to get CS:S working without crashing when connecting to servers
[03:52] <Red-Sox> Can't you compile it w/ CVS for free?
[03:52] <Hooveyy> I'm not sure.
[03:52] <jmartini> how do I get ubuntu to scan the usb ports for new devices
[03:52] <eugman> willzzz, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2095
[03:52] <starleaf> What package should I choose when downloading perl? AS, DEB or RPM?
[03:52] <Hooveyy> jmartini: what happened when you plugged the device in?
[03:52] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: did you reg your nick?
[03:52] <Bryce> eugman: hold on i do know of one
[03:52] <trianglemanwins> how do i respond to people when their name is yellow?
[03:53] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: I've got 8 minutes 'till bed time
[03:53] <Red-Sox> big tests tomorrow
[03:53] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, clearly its deb ... why bother downloading ? perl is in repo ... and unless i am mistaken its in ubuntu by default
[03:53] <jmartini> nothing, it was seen by the system, I unplugged it and plugged it back in and now nothing
[03:53] <SpacePope> i'm registered
[03:53] <jmartini> I can reboot to get it back but thats just kludgy
[03:53] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: okay now send messages if you want help
[03:53] <SpacePope> i am
[03:54] <Hooveyy> jmartini: so, it disappears, or what?
[03:54] <Red-Sox> SpacePope: /msg nickserv identify _PASSWORD_
[03:54] <mchao1> Hi guys, can anyone tell me how to exit X server to install nvidia drivers?
[03:54] <trianglemanwins> what does it mean if someones name is in yellow?
[03:54] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Apparently not in the version I downloaded yesterday... trying to install the "cube" desktop, but first it said that I didn't have C and now it wants perl...
[03:54] <EvanIsaac> ok
[03:54] <EvanIsaac> lets try this
[03:54] <supafly420> how do i reconfigure the x-window system?
[03:54] <jmartini> Hooveyy: yes, specifically I'm talking about my usb headphones
[03:54] <sivik> mchao1, ctrl-alt-f1 and then killall xdm/kdm/gdm depending on what you are using
[03:54] <Red-Sox> Just identify EvanIsaac
[03:54] <sivik> supafly420, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, what version of perl is it asking for ?
[03:54] <newpZ> hi in gimp, under script-fu all the alpha to logo choises are greyed out... how do i enable them?
[03:54] <eugman> !xconfig
[03:54] <ubotu> xconfig is To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:54] <hype> supafly420, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:54] <hype> pwnd
[03:54] <mchao1> sivik: I tried that but I just get a blank black screen
[03:54] <Red-Sox> 6 minutes EvanIsaac
[03:54] <hype> :/
[03:55] <briguyd> BlueEagle, ok, i was able to mount the user's directory on the remote machine with no problems, in that i have a symbolic link back to the USB drive, it doesnt work on the remote machine, however, another sym link to another area on the same hard drive works fine
[03:55] <sivik> mchao1, ok, ctrl-alt-f2
[03:55] <drminime> Hey, my desktop is not refreshing - i just installed XFree86 to work w/ my ATI graphics, does anyone have any advice?
[03:55] <sivik> drminime, did you restart the xserver?
[03:55] <starleaf> It just says "XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[03:55] <mchao1> sivik: thanks I give that a try brb
[03:55] <eugman> hype, sivik, typing !xconfig will save you time.
[03:55] <EvanIsaac> redsox?
[03:55] <Hooveyy> Holy, I do not like cold pills anymore. I took an Advil one for my cold and now I'm drowsy. :/
[03:56] <sivik> eugman, yeah, oh well
[03:56] <drminime> what's the restart command?
[03:56] <lostboyz> hi i had a question
[03:56] <Hooveyy> Ask away lostboyz.
[03:56] <sivik> drminime, ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:56] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Sorry, it just says this and exits: "XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"
[03:56] <eugman> sivik, I'm only saying because that question seems to come up often.
[03:56] <Red-Sox[away] > lostboyz: shoot
[03:56] <jmartini> drminime: shutdown -r now
[03:56] <lostboyz> why is it that i can use my webcam in ekiga but it does not start in amsn?
[03:56] <sivik> eugman, ok, thanks
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, thats a perl module .. not perl
[03:56] <mchao1> sivik: just a blank screen again
[03:56] <sivik> drminime, sudo poweroff
[03:56] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: maybe it's unsupported in aMSN.
[03:56] <drminime> did that, same issue
[03:56] <eugman> bryce, any luck yet?
[03:56] <sivik> jmartini, poweroff is shorter to type
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, pls look for that module in synaptic and then install it
[03:57] <sivik> mchaol: thats weird
[03:57] <lostboyz> no webcam was working in amsn in suse
[03:57] <Bryce> eugman: still looking have no fear
[03:57] <lostboyz> when i had it working
[03:57] <jmartini> sivik: but not standard across unixes
[03:57] <trianglemanwins> any idea how to reconize cds in wine?
[03:57] <sivik> jmartini, lol
[03:57] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: latest version of aMSN?
[03:57] <Dr_willis> edit/check the wine configs and docs.
[03:57] <drminime> don't need it, martini
[03:57] <sivik> trianglemanwins, you have to mount the disc first
[03:57] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Let me guess... browsing thrugh Howtos again?
[03:57] <sivik> drminime, but i'm assuming he is using ubuntu since he is in this channel
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, synaptic .. not hot-to
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> how to
[03:57] <trianglemanwins> how do i respond to a personal message?
[03:58] <slavik> anyone have luck installing apache through synaptic?
[03:58] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, type
[03:58] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: :)
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: You'll need to register with nickserv
[03:58] <sivik> trianglemanwins, you click on the tab
[03:58] <twysted> ok so im going to install ubuntu but i still want to be able to update my ipod any suggestions?
[03:58] <Hooveyy> slavik: why not just install the LAMP server?
[03:58] <jmartini> I use alot of things so its easier to stick what works across most of them
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> Thats for iPods.
[03:58] <newpZ> is there like script-fu plugins for gimp to get the greyed out stuf working?
[03:58] <slavik> Hooveyy: it was just a question ...
[03:58] <Hooveyy> Oh,
[03:58] <slavik> and ubuntu can be a LAMP server
[03:58] <lostboyz> yes i have latest version of msn
[03:58] <XMuffinFlavoredX> twysted: sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: /msg nickserv help
[03:58] <Hooveyy> lostboyz: Hmm, okay, I'm not too sure then, sorry
[03:58] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: that ought to show you how to register.
[03:58] <twysted> hmm
[03:59] <Hooveyy> slavik: I tried it once, installed fine,
[03:59] <Hooveyy> slavik: I couldn't get SQL to install though ;/
[03:59] <Halpo> why is editing the "Places" menu restricted?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, what apt-get you used to install sql ?
[03:59] <Hooveyy> I installed it out of the Synaptic GUI
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> client or server btw ?
[03:59] <cpk2> !lamp
[03:59] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[03:59] <trianglemanwins> msg BlueEagle test
[03:59] <Hooveyy> Server,
[03:59] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me how, in the xsane image scanner, to get a document scanned in black&white instead of color?
[03:59] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, you must have /
[04:00] <eugman> NewpZ, I think there is probably something else causing your problem. Like working on an indexed image.
[04:00] <drminime> desktop still having a refresh problem
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, so installed failed ? or ??
[04:00] <drminime> tried restarting x, no good
[04:00] <slavik> Hooveyy: I tried, they only had 1.3 in repos and that gave errors ...
[04:00] <newpZ> eugman, its a new project :)
[04:00] <BlueEagle> trianglemanwins: You might want /msg blueeagle test for that. :p
[04:00] <newpZ> i want to make something with it
[04:00] <Hooveyy> wickedpuppy: It installed but wouldn't start.
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, how did you star it ?
[04:00] <wickedpuppy> start
[04:00] <drminime> any other suggestions?
[04:00] <slavik> mysqld ...
[04:00] <slavik> I think
[04:00] <Hooveyy> yeah.
[04:00] <Bryce> eugman: really stlill looking just not having luck
[04:01] <BlueEagle> slavik: is what you are looking for: sudo apt-get install php5 mysql-server
[04:01] <eugman> newpZ, I'm not sure then. Maybe you need Scheme but they should be working.
[04:01] <slavik> well, at work, I will be installing LAMP with Tomcat and FreeTDS
[04:01] <Hooveyy> I'm gonna boot Ubuntu into VMWARE and try installing Apache / SQL
[04:01] <starleaf> ARgh! Ubuntu is a bit annoying when you aren't root... how do I bypass the synaptic complaint about me not being root?
[04:01] <twysted> Hooveyy> how couldnt u get mysql server to install?
[04:01] <Hooveyy> twysted: It installed
[04:02] <Hooveyy> But wouldn't start
[04:02] <twysted> starleaf> it should ask you to run as root
[04:02] <BlueEagle> hooveyy: Does it give any error messages?
[04:02] <Hooveyy> But that was a while ago, I'm gonna try again even though I have no use for it :p
[04:02] <twysted> Hooveyy> check the error log and find out why
[04:02] <Hooveyy> No, no.
[04:02] <slavik> BlueEagle: not really ... I have no use (for now) for it, but for work I will be doing this on Fedora Core 5 or CentOS 4 and I have to compile my own PHP anyway ... maybe even Tomcat
[04:02] <Hooveyy> One sec, booting up Ubuntu.
[04:02] <starleaf> twysted: Just says Sorry, you are not root, you can only read but not change the package database
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, sudo
[04:03] <twysted> starleaf> restart synaptic  it shouldnt do that, are you the only user?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, when you use synaptic it asks for the password isnt it ?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> sudo synaptic
[04:03] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:04] <Bryce> eugman: how bout git?
[04:04] <starleaf> I'm the only user, but it was three hours ago since my last cup of coffee... :P tried su not sudo... :/
[04:04] <eugman> I'll take a look at it
[04:04] <XMuffinFlavoredX> starleaf: run gksudo synapatic
[04:04] <XMuffinFlavoredX> Isn't that it?
[04:04] <Bryce> eugman: http://www.darcs.net/
[04:05] <Bryce> eugman: that's the one that i was thinking of
[04:05] <slavik> hmm
[04:05] <Hooveyy> !lamp
[04:05] <ubotu> offically the LAMP stack is: Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}, Setup LAMP on Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  ; See also server cd install menu ; however jdub had this to say:  Linux, Apache, Most-of-our-scripting-languages-start-with-a-P, Postgresql (and that other one) :)
[04:05] <SpaceFrog> What repository has GAIM BETA 2?
[04:05] <slavik> Hooveyy: when you are setting up a 'real' server (where there are Microsoft things that need to be used), you have to compile half the stuff anyway
[04:06] <slavik> SpaceFrog: for you, none :P
[04:06] <eugman> Bryce, looks interesting. What's different about it?
[04:06] <wickedpuppy> oh Hooveyy if you still can't start mysql try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[04:06] <SpaceFrog> slavik: Why? :(
[04:06] <slavik> SpaceFrog: because dapper is stable, hence you get only 1.5, unless you want to compile your own :)
[04:06] <SpaceFrog> oh, i see
[04:07] <Arrick> hi guys and gals
[04:07] <Hooveyy> where can i get apache 1.3.37? :p
[04:07] <Astray> Hi there.
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> i doubt here for gals ...
[04:07] <lupine_85> !info apache dapper
[04:07] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, in the repos ?
[04:07] <ubotu> apache: versatile, high-performance HTTP server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.34-2ubuntu0.1 (dapper), package size 375 kB, installed size 808 kB
[04:08] <Arrick> whaere would I find the files for openssh-server in the breezy setup?
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you got to download from the repo ...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> i don't think its in the cd ...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> no sure...
[04:08] <wickedpuppy> not
[04:08] <BlueEagle> slavik: soo... ehh.. what was the ubuntu related question again? I just installed apache on this box.
[04:08] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, I have it installed, I want to edit it
[04:08] <Bryce> eugman: it's simple and powerful
[04:08] <Arrick> but I cant fine the files
[04:08] <slavik> BlueEagle: what version?
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, its in /etc/ssh
[04:09] <Bryce> eugman: i've have much less trouble with that htan cvs
[04:09] <Bryce> eugman: and it's still pretty powerfull
[04:09] <Arrick> thanks
[04:09] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, normally config files are in /etc/program_name
[04:09] <slavik> Ok, I am pissed off ...
[04:09] <HellDragon> night
[04:09] <slavik> Ubuntu is wasting like 3GB of HDD space!!!!
[04:09] <eugman> Bryce, ok cool. I'll try it out this week.
[04:09] <slavik> FOR NOTHING!!!!!!
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> slavik, ? how ?
[04:10] <Hooveyy> ..Ok then
[04:10] <slavik> subversion?
[04:10] <Arrick> thanks wickedpuppy
[04:10] <Hooveyy> where do i put php files
[04:10] <slavik> wickedpuppy: Edgy made a 3GB swap aprtition, but when I look at top ... it's not used at ALL!!!
[04:10] <Hooveyy> like
[04:10] <Hooveyy> i just installed apache
[04:10] <Hooveyy> php, and sql
[04:10] <Hooveyy> and i dunno where i put php files
[04:10] <slavik> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24950
[04:10] <sproingie> three whole gigs, how unforgiveable
[04:10] <wickedpuppy> slavik, so you let the cd do the partitioning ?
[04:10] <slavik> I want my 3GB back
[04:10] <sproingie> partition it yourself next time
[04:10] <slavik> yeah, heh
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> lol
[04:11] <slavik> I guess it did RAM*2.5 or something
[04:11] <slavik> actually, manual editing didn't work ..
[04:11] <sproingie> no i think it just takes 3G
[04:11] <wickedpuppy> dude .. it asked for permission before it does the partitioning ... so yah the fault lies with the guy so says yes
[04:11] <Bryce> eugman: also if you feel intrepid try out searchign "revision control" (without the quotes of course) in synaptic and that'll show you all the ones in the apt repository which wll make installation a snap
[04:11] <slavik> I didn't know 3GB was so much
[04:11] <Red-Sox> Okay, I'm back :)
[04:11] <sproingie> that whole RAM*2 thing is an old saw that isn't necessary any more
[04:12] <slavik> Do you know how much usefull material I could fit on there?
[04:12] <sproingie> came from when linux was using a buddy allocator i think
[04:12] <wickedpuppy> sproingie, you never know ... i have a com with 128 mb of ram ..
[04:12] <BlueEagle> slavik: Server version: Apache/2.0.55
[04:12] <Red-Sox> Now, who was I helping in the PM...EvanIsaac was it?
[04:12] <slavik> BlueEagle: from the repos?  I forgot that v2.0 is called httpd not apache
[04:13] <slavik> oh well
[04:13] <wickedpuppy> sproingie, true .. but with 2 gig of swap .. its running fine
[04:13] <eugman> Bryce, so anythere where I keep track of changes to files would fall under the category of revision control, correct?
[04:13] <BlueEagle> slavik: I'd slap a !language on you if I were from the US. :)
[04:13] <slavik> BlueEagle: not my fault they renamed it for some weird reason :P
[04:13] <starleaf> Apparently now I don't have GTK2.0+?? Synaptic says it's installed...
[04:13] <Bryce> eugman: yup i'd assume so, i dunno why not
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, what error message says you don't have gtk2.0 ?
[04:14] <Bryce> eugman: heh, well anything with different versions... that you track....woudl be revision control
[04:14] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, can I set ssh up so it listens to more than one port?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, more than 1 port ?
[04:14] <wickedpuppy> why ?
[04:15] <sproingie> i can think of a lot of reasons why
[04:15] <Arrick> yeah, on my router I can make it forward to a range of ports, and I would like to make it 2 ports
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Where do I put PHP files (I have Apache, PHP5, and MYSQL installed) on Ubuntu?
[04:15] <joshua__> hello all
[04:15] <eugman> Bryce, Well I could imagine that it could have a specific meaning like projects able to manage large projects why some sort of more tangential program would have some other definition.
[04:15] <Hooveyy> I just installed the LAMP stuff.
[04:15] <slavik> Hooveyy: into the DocumentRoot
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Which is where? ;/
[04:15] <slavik> which is defined in the apache config
[04:15] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you can try ... i never try before .. the file to edit is /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:15] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: the ./conf I run to setup for the "cube" says No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[04:15] <eugman> er, programs able to manage large projects
[04:15] <Arrick> ok thanks
[04:15] <Hooveyy> Where is the Apache config? :p
[04:16] <asdf> i'm installing the kernel soruces to enable smp for this duo laptop. is there anything i need to do in order to use the existing config?
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, the "cube" ... it isn't in the repo ?
[04:16] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: along with a whole bunch of other things it needs...
[04:16] <diswill> need help with klamav on kubuntu the auto scan process dies unexpectitly very quickly 3-5 seconds after I enable it. Does any one care to helpl me fix this? TIA
[04:16] <slavik>  /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> Hooveyy, as always /etc/apache
[04:16] <slavik> or /etc/httpd/httpd.conf
[04:16] <wickedpuppy> /etc/program_name
[04:16] <Bryce> eugman: no no it wasnt you, i was just thinking and well... it seems like the kind of thing that would have about a thousand crazy names
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, pls check if there is a ubuntu or debian package for that ... before compiling ...
[04:17] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: If it went into repo half an hour ago, from whereI got it a post two days ago said mem leak was fixed and it was stable
[04:17] <Arrick> can I make it where I have two nics activated, one with dhcp which listens to nothing and the other with a static that only listens to certain ports?
[04:17] <Bryce> eugman: i wasn't trying to be an ass, i was just confusing myself by overthinking it because it just seems ambiguious
[04:17] <Bryce> eugman:  no offence was meant
[04:17] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, you got two lan ports ?
[04:17] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: I have tried, but I dont know what to search for other than "aiglx"
[04:18] <gunfus> ubuntu tell me about xserver
[04:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell gunfus about xserver
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <eugman> Bryce, None was taken I was just trying to show that from my point of view things don't seems that simple. Unfortunately they aren't always as simple as they should be with linux.
[04:18] <h6w> Hey, I know that usr is short for user and bin is short for binary.  Home means peoples home folders, and boot is for the boot process and proc is for system processes.  But what does etc and var stand for?  I can't seem to find it on the net anywhere.
[04:18] <wickedpuppy> what is this cube thing you are installing ? honestly i never heard of it before ... perhaps others sed it before ?
[04:18] <gunfus> hi guys, I am trying to setup my xserver to have access by another user (myttv)
[04:18] <BlueEagle> ubotu: tell gunfus about xorg
[04:18] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, yeah, I have dozens, but two in this box
[04:18] <slavik> BlueEagle: I installed the default FC5 apache/PHP and here's the kicker ...
[04:18] <BlueEagle> gunfus: that seems to have done the trick. :)
[04:19] <Bryce> eugman: yeah i know exactly what you mean.  See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:19] <slavik> PHP was configured with apsx2=/usr/bin/apsx (which wasn't there), then it was configured with --with-unixODBC=/usr/share and later there was a --without-unixODBC :D
[04:19] <EvanIsaac> !sources
[04:19] <Red-Sox> !easysource
[04:19] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
 bug in obutu it never said anything about xorg
[04:19] <slavik> BlueEagle: you need to add a data type, so that apache knows how to treat it
[04:20] <h6w> !xfs
[04:20] <ubotu> xfs: X font server. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 180 kB
[04:20] <slavik> google something like 'apache php mime type'
[04:20] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, if i can get knowledge from here ont eh two nics, i can setup the ssh, now that i knwo where the files are
[04:20] <BlueEagle> slavik: Well, it worked OTB here. :)
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !xorg
[04:20] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:20] <slavik> BlueEagle: because someone with a brain compiled it ...
[04:20] <h6w> !xfs-filesystem
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xfs-filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <BlueEagle> slavik: :D
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, aren't the two nics working ?
[04:20] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: It's a graphical verion of the four desktops you usualy have in a linux WM but instead of clicking on the icons to switch desktop you just rotate it
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !fat16
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fat16 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <Bryce> wait a second.... tell me that ubotu was kidding
[04:20] <sproingie> !fat
[04:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:20] <Hooveyy> !fat32-filesystem
[04:20] <wickedpuppy> starleaf, you talking about xgl ?
[04:20] <slavik> so I had to recompile apache (because apsx was never installed) and then make a proper php compile (mainly because I needed tio compile it with a MS-SQL driver)
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fat32-filesystem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <Bryce> when it said that postgresql was a scripting language
[04:21] <Hooveyy> >_>
[04:21] <Bryce> !fat32
[04:21] <BlueEagle> slavik: Well that depends really as PHP can do dangerouse or atleast unwise things with your system so you might want to make sure the users has got some clue before making it availible.
[04:21] <Hooveyy> !ntfs
[04:21] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: You tell me, I just saw a picture of it and wanted to try it...
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> !botabuse
[04:21] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops
[04:21] <Hooveyy> I think the bot exploded............
[04:21] <sproingie> technically you could throw your entire app into pgpython or pgperl or whatnot
[04:21] <BlueEagle> slavik: ...but that's moving offtopic. :)
[04:21] <sproingie> it wouldn't be wise...
[04:21] <wickedpuppy> !xgl > starleaf
[04:21] <Arrick> only one is active, I remember some problem having wireless and a lan workign at the same time, adn I dotn want that to happen to my box with two lan cards
[04:21] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, ^
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> Hooveyy: Should have tried searching at the URL it gave you.  Now you're being ignored.
[04:22] <gunfus> Hey guys..
[04:22] <slavik> BlueEagle: your php box also has ftp for php enabled?
[04:22] <slavik> whatever that is
[04:22] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools
[04:22] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, both are lans right ? are they detected ? when you do ifconfig
[04:22] <gunfus> run as a different user
[04:22] <starleaf> wickedpuppy: Thanks! :D
[04:22] <slavik> where would I change my default audio output device?
[04:22] <BlueEagle> slavik: If you'd like to continue this conversation we can do that in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[04:23] <BlueEagle> ...or /msg me :)
[04:23] <Arrick> wickedpuppy, yes
[04:23] <slavik> it's pretty much done, not much to talk about
[04:23] <BlueEagle> :)
[04:23] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools > run as a different user?
[04:23] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, then try this sudo ifup eth?
[04:24] <wickedpuppy> ? means 1 2 or 3 ... its regex :P
[04:24] <Arrick> ok, i just wanted to make sure that it wouldnt cause probs, cause it is what I am writing on, and I am voiced in freenode
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> gunfus, what about in System menu ?
[04:25] <hav0k> what's the command to set a password?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> hav0k: passwd
[04:25] <wickedpuppy> Arrick, well .. if i see you disconnected i know what happened ...
[04:25] <hav0k> thanks BlueEagle
[04:25] <Arrick> yeah thanks
 nop..
[04:25] <BlueEagle> hav0k: np. Also please concider using sudo -s instead of setting a password for root.
[04:26] <Likwidoxigen> i'm heading out goodnight guys
[04:26] <Hooveyy> Hmm, two of my friends r missing.
[04:26] <Hooveyy> Whoops, offtopic.
 nop..
[04:30] <gunfus> in my application menu I don't have system tools > run as a different user?
[04:31] <dave> question
[04:31] <Arrick> !ask
[04:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:31] <brian98> gunfus: your point?
[04:31] <dave> i like aptitude and i know its best for package management and all but why does it constantly want to uninstall all this stuff?
[04:32] <brian98> dave: like when?
[04:32] <Boson_> ny1 here know foobar?
[04:32] <slavik> dave, maybe the packages conflict :)
[04:32] <gunfus> brian98:  How do I get it..?
[04:33] <gunfus> brian98: how do I get the menu that I don't have under Applications  > run as a different user
[04:33] <dave> it says the following packages are unused and will be removed
[04:33] <Boson_> ny1 here know foobar?
[04:33] <dave> and some of them i know I use
[04:33] <Lam_> is there an option i can add to the monitor section of my xorg.conf file to force detection of "widescreen modes" despite my monitor not (but it does) supporting it?  i don't want to ADD a widescreen resolution because certain games check the monitor for resolution capabilities
[04:34] <Telroth_Plushie|> gonna have to add it to force it
[04:34] <Lam_> i'm using widescreen resolutiosn right now
[04:34] <Lam_> but counter-strike will not let me change my aspect ratio
[04:34] <BlueEagle> !phpmyadmin
[04:34] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:<IP_ADDRESS>-1 (dapper), package size 3516 kB, installed size 13724 kB
[04:34] <Lam_> it thinks my monitor can't support widescreen
[04:35] <Lam_> so i play 1024x768 with the screen stretched horizontally to 1280
[04:35] <Lam_> which is annoying
[04:35] <Lam_> if possible, i can live with scaling too. if i can get counterstrike to add huge black bars on the side to maintain aspect ratio, that's fine
[04:36] <brian98> gunfus: alacarte menu editor is your friend
[04:36] <brian98> add run as a different user under system tools
[04:36] <gunfus> brian98:  Ahh would you look at that..
[04:37] <gunfus> that wasn't there in previous relases
[04:37] <brian98> jebus
[04:37] <brian98> gunfus: sorted?
[04:38] <gunfus> brian98: Yep!! Thanks Man!
[04:40] <Denstark> Hi there. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Sound card, and I want to turn down the base that my speakers put out. I tried changing it in alsamixer but nothing happens. Can anyone take a stab at helping me? =)
[04:40] <Arrick> hey, which port has more problems with attackers, 21 or 22?
[04:40] <brian98> arrick: why?
[04:41] <krazykit> Lam_: in wine?  you could window it.  use the "virtual desktop" feature in winecfg and just get rid of the window borders
[04:42] <brian98> no worries
[04:42] <Lam_> krazykit: i'm using cedega, but if it works with wine, i don't mind trying that
[04:42] <krazykit> Lam_: oh, i don't know cedega.  i'm sure there's some option there.
[04:42] <Lam_> krazykit: i'm trying to get it to maintain aspect ratio in fullscreen mode, whether it is 4:3 or 16:10
[04:43] <nexsan> ok
[04:43] <nexsan> no deal
[04:43] <Arrick> good lord I had lag so bad I thought my dual nics bumped me off
[04:44] <nexsan> differences between fedora and ubuntu?
[04:44] <spuddogg> Does anyone know how to get the menubar back in XChat?
[04:45] <Asc> nexsan: yes
[04:46] <nexsan> ?
[04:46] <Cruvader> Hi guys, I just installed ubuntu my first linux distro!, but i really need some help
[04:46] <Buglouse> Does anyone know of the Windows Internet Media Streamer called Sam3 Media Broadcaster?  I'm looking iether to install that on my Ubuntu Drapper Drake OS or an alternative to that.
[04:46] <Cruvader> i plugged in my laptops wireless card after install and i dont know how to install it? :(
[04:47] <Asc> nexsan: Yes, there are
[04:47] <thenetduck> does anyone know of a good backup program to back up my system???
[04:47] <Cruvader> is their a command i can run or something
[04:47] <cpk2> Cruvader: what kind of wireless card?
[04:47] <Cruvader> um lemme go check
[04:47] <nexsan> i can't get ubuntu to install
[04:47] <cpk2> Cruvader: hopefully it will show up in lspci
[04:47] <nexsan> damnit
[04:47] <nexsan> he might have to compile a driver
[04:47] <nexsan> i had to do that with my d-link card
[04:48] <Cruvader> it's made by Proxim? um ..
[04:48] <Cruvader> proxim gold card? : o
[04:48] <aroon> does it come with a high credit limit?
[04:48] <cpk2> Cruvader: can you see it in lspci when it is in your laptop?
[04:48] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks.  I got hit by the kernel upgrade/nvidia driver problem, but the new restricted driver package didn't fix it for me.  I think it might be because I'm using the 686 kernel, not 386 -- do I have any recourse here?
[04:49] <Cruvader> i'll check again lol
[04:49] <nexsan> does anyone know why ubuntu freezes when it's going through the checklist upon boot- install?
[04:50] <Arrick> ok guys, I am using the right password, and I am getting denied, how do I check my username, to make sure I am using the right own?
[04:50] <Arrick> one
[04:50] <spuddogg> Does anyone know the syntax and command to make a symlink?
[04:50] <TIM90> nexus what graphics card do you use
[04:50] <nexsan> nvidia 7900 gt ko
[04:50] <brian98> arrick: doing what
[04:51] <brian98> ?
[04:51] <Asc> arrick: id
[04:51] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, ln -s
[04:51] <Dr_willis> ln -s somthing somthingelse
[04:51] <nexsan> pci-x
[04:51] <EvanIsaac> question
[04:51] <Arrick> i figured it out thanks anyways, it was a caps deal
[04:51] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Is it hanging at the "loading hardware drivers" stage, perchance?
[04:51] <eternalswd> I have an ubuntu machine that connects to the http/s via a proxy server say, server.com:80  I have a windows machine that's connected directly to the ubuntu machine via crossover cable.  I have ssh setup between the two.  How would I set port 80 from the windows machine to tunnel through to server.com:80?
[04:51] <TIM90> ok i thought i would have been your card  it was an ati
[04:51] <EvanIsaac> i'm trying to upgrade from breezy badger to dapper drake
[04:51] <nexsan> no, it hangs right after the line: parport0 PC Style at....
[04:52] <Phoenix1701> TIM90: That same error exists with nvidia cards too, actually.
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> and i'm doing it by the upgrading by changing sources and the command line section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:52] <Arrick> how would I go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[04:52] <tyler_d> wireless networking problem, cannot enable wireless networking, no error messages?
[04:52] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Hm...  in that case I'm not so sure; is this a new thing, or has it always done this?
[04:52] <nexsan> which i have gone and disabled the parallel port, the line no longer shows and still hangs...
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> my question is when i typed in sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <Arrick> tyler_d, are you connected by lan at the same time?
[04:52] <nexsan> i've only tried installing today
[04:52] <EvanIsaac> everything seemed to work fine except the last thing i got
[04:52] <nexsan> the live cd also hangs
[04:52] <TIM90> nexsan : is this and alternat cd
[04:52] <yanger> kino-dvtitler: Depends: kino (>= 0.7) but it is not going to be installed  E: Broken packages
[04:53] <ToHellWithGA> i need to open or convert a MATLAB .fig file for use in a presentation.  can that be done in ubuntu without using MATLAB through WINE (which is painfully slow)
[04:53] <nexsan> yea
[04:53] <yanger> is that a bug?
[04:53] <tyler_d> Arrick: tried with and without
[04:53] <nexsan> alternate cd
[04:53] <yanger> kino is 0.8
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[04:53] <Phoenix1701> nexsan: Do you have an Intel onboard graphics card?  (This may very well not have anything to do with your problem, but it's something I've observed)
[04:53] <Arrick> check the compatibility list tyler_d ?
[04:53] <nexsan> no
[04:53] <tyler_d> Arrick: found where
[04:53] <Arrick> !wireless
[04:53] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:53] <EvanIsaac> anyone? anyone?
[04:53] <Arrick> tyler_d, check ubotus post
[04:54] <Asc> Does the OSS MATLAB-similar-program have the ability to read such things?
[04:54] <Phoenix1701> Okay...  then I'm out of ideas.
[04:54] <Phoenix1701> Sorry...
[04:54] <nexsan> full specs: AMD Athlon X2 4200, 2 GB Corsair XMS DDR2, WD 250 GB SATA
[04:54] <nexsan> Asus M2N motherboard
[04:54] <spuddogg> wickedpuppy, do you know the exact symlink syntax?  i need `/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build' to point to '/usr/src' (or vice-versa, can't remember
[04:54] <nexsan> nvidia 7900 gt ko
[04:54] <Buglouse> Does anyone know how I can boot into windows without having to install the OS. ie; from a CD?
[04:54] <nexsan> no freaking idea what could be causing the freeze
[04:55] <TIM90> is that th only hard drive you have in you system
[04:55] <nexsan> i disabled the J micron controller to no avail...
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, ln -s somthing somthingelse <-- from Dr_willis
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> :P
[04:55] <whatsreal> Buglouse: wrong freaking channel
[04:55] <nexsan> i have one drive, with no linux partition set, could this be the problem?
[04:55] <spuddogg> wickedpuppy, ahh, that clears everything up :)
[04:55] <nexsan> or could i set the partition from the installation?
[04:55] <Arrick> Buglouse, join #windows
[04:55] <TIM90> only one way to find out
[04:55] <wickedpuppy> spuddogg, you can also do man ln of course :P
[04:55] <Buglouse> well i have Ubuntu installed but need to do a windows task....
[04:56] <whatsreal> what do you need to do?
[04:56] <TIM90> Buglouse whats that task then
[04:56] <Dr_willis> vmware :P
[04:56] <Buglouse> chkdisk
[04:56] <tyler_d> Arrick: nothing
[04:56] <EvanIsaac> anybody hear what isaid??
[04:57] <Arrick> if its not on that list, give details of what you have in here, and you will get helped quicker
[04:57] <Arrick> tyler_d, ^
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> this is a matter of life or death for my laptop :\
[04:57] <nexsan> i'm getting pwned by ubuntu
[04:57] <jwl007> haha welcome to the club
[04:57] <nexsan> lol
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> lol
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> well
[04:57] <Asc> ToHellWithGA: Try looking into 'scilab' and 'octave'.  They are OSS programs with (supposedly) reasonable compatability with MATLAB
[04:57] <EvanIsaac> does anyone know anything in here?
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> because i sure don't
[04:58] <nexsan> they do, but not our issues
[04:58] <Dr_willis> I dident even see your question.....
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> ok
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> Asc: i'm using octave, but i think scilab actually uses matlab
[04:58] <spuddogg> man, i need kitche
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> I'm trying to upgrade from badger to drake
[04:58] <Asc> EvanIssac: no, we're all as clueless as you.  Every one of us/
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> willis
[04:58] <Vyle> Yeah the card shows up when I use 'lspci'
[04:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:58] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: I know a great deal of things.  Now, how many of those things have anything to do with Ubuntu, I can't say
[04:58] <TIM90> why do you want to chkdsk
[04:58] <EvanIsaac> I just want to know if i should put the 2nd command in
[04:59] <tyler_d> Arrick: when I go to enable wireless networking through network settings, the computer thinks for a bit, then I click ok, thinks for a short period then nothing, on the panel it doesn't show up and no indication of it trying to??
[04:59] <Dr_willis> what second command?
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> of upgrading from badger to drake by changing sources and the command line
[04:59] <nexsan> someone have a gun and a penguin handy?
[04:59] <ranek> Hello!
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> i'm using  the steps given on sudo apt-get update
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> wait
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> on
[04:59] <Arrick> tyler_d, give the model and make of your laptop, as well as the wireless card
[04:59] <brian|lfs> wtf did you all do to xgl it don't install anymore
[04:59] <nexsan> since i need the pc, might as well kill the penguin
[04:59] <EvanIsaac> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[04:59] <ranek> I'm rather new to Ubuntu, could any one tell me how to get drivers for my videocard
[04:59] <brian98> tyler_d: have you  ran iwconfig ?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> apt-get dist-upgrade i thought.. or theres som eother command also..
[05:00] <brian98> to see if it recs. any wireless extensions
[05:00] <Dr_willis> !upgrade
[05:00] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> Upgrating by changing sources and the command line
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> but the thing is
[05:00] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[05:00] <tyler_d>  brian98: no I have not
[05:00] <brian98> shel
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> let me talk to you in pm willis it'll be less chaotic
[05:00] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: And the second line you're referring to is...?
[05:00] <brian98> shell even
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> the second one is
[05:00] <brian98> sudo iwconfig
[05:00] <_joe> hi all
[05:00] <_joe> where is my su command?
[05:00] <EvanIsaac> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:00] <TIM90> hahah you will get it sorted nexsan
[05:00] <wickedpuppy> _joe, use sudo
[05:00] <_joe> i tried
[05:00] <brian98> _joe gone fishing
[05:00] <tyler_d>  brian98: shows up as configured
[05:01] <brian98> ok
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> but it says that if the first one fails i shouldn't try the second or i'll get a corrupted system
[05:01] <nexsan> i wish, this is frustrating
[05:01] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  sounds to me lik eyou are making a complex problem out of a simple task..  fix the sources, use  the dist-upgrade command.
[05:01] <_joe> but why can't i su to root
[05:01] <brian98> _joe sudo -i
[05:01] <ranek> Is there a place I can read a step by step on how to get Ubunto set up?
[05:01] <Phoenix1701> Oh!  I see.  I'm pretty sure that's basically the command that does the actual work, so yes, it's definitely necessary.
[05:01] <wickedpuppy> _joe, use sudo command
[05:01] <_joe> ooh ok
[05:01] <nexsan> i'll have to go into the bios and start disabling options to see which one is not letting me install
[05:01] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  ive found it better to backup /home and  do a clean install.
[05:01] <_joe> it still says grub though
[05:01] <Phoenix1701> (apt-get update just gets an updated list of packages -- it's the dist-upgrade that installs them all)
[05:01] <Arrick> ubotu tell ranek about wiki
[05:01] <_joe> and some long line with vmlinuc
[05:01] <TIM90> tell me exactly what happends dude
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> and the first command that i put in looked like it went through well
[05:01] <_joe> i type "sudo -i" and it says boot failed
[05:01] <EvanIsaac> except that i got  this:
[05:01] <_joe> on my last linux this worked
[05:01] <nexsan> TIM90: talking to me?
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0
[05:02] <Arrick> how would I go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[05:02] <TIM90> yep:)
[05:02] <brian98> tyler_d: if you run ifconfig has it got an ip?
[05:02] <tyler_d> arrick: desktop pc amd k7 build
[05:02] <nexsan> TIM90: When i boot up with the cd in the drive, i get the list of options of which i select text based...
[05:02] <EvanIsaac> so did that mean that my first command failed??
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> Hm...  now, don't take this advice on its own, because I wouldn't want to be responsible for your Linux installation burning down, but that doesn't strike me as a particularly bad message.
[05:02] <nexsan> everything loads
[05:02] <TIM90> ok
[05:02] <nexsan> until the list appears with all the hardware....
[05:02] <Phoenix1701> It says it failed with result 0, but 0 is usually "success"
[05:02] <Arrick> brian98, he woudl run iwconfig for wireless right?
[05:03] <brian98> Yes
[05:03] <TIM90> what hardware
[05:03] <nexsan> it stops at Parport0: PC Style at 0x378...
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> ok, well if the only thing it corrupts is linux then i don't care
[05:03] <_joe> no one knows what my problem is?
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> i just installed badger this morning
[05:03] <nexsan> i disabled the Parallel port
[05:03] <tyler_d> no ip address
[05:03] <brian98> arrick: then ifconfig will give you fino on IP's
[05:03] <_joe> i wish i hadn't erased windows
[05:03] <brian98> info even
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> so phoenix you say go for it?
[05:03] <nexsan> the line doesn't appear anymore, but it still freezes....
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> hehe.  I can pretty much guarantee it won't hose your system in any larger capacity than that, yes.
[05:03] <tyler_d> shows all the information applicable though
[05:03] <brian98> _joe
[05:03] <lmosher> I've got several wireless networks available at my office (each w/ different strengths). In the built-in wireless tool I can't seem to tell the relative strengths of each one, which means I have to try them individually until I get a strong signal. Is there a better tool?
[05:03] <WhiteDeth> how do I get Bluetooth working? :\
[05:03] <brian98> _joe don't stop just yet
[05:03] <tyler_d> eth1
[05:03] <TIM90> dont cennect stuff to the pc when installing
[05:03] <_joe> brian98: ok
[05:03] <Phoenix1701> If you have all relevant data from your Linux partition backed up and/or don't care if it gets vaporized, I'd say you're go for launch.
[05:03] <nexsan> TIM90: like what?
[05:03] <EvanIsaac> well if you're wrong you have to pay me the full value of this pc, which is 75$ ;)
[05:03] <nexsan> usb devices?
[05:04] <brian98> _joe so, tell me your exact situation
[05:04] <_joe> i was on redhat before, didn't have this trouble
[05:04] <_joe> but now my son gave me a ubuntu CD and said it would be better
[05:04] <Phoenix1701> lol.  You could just videotape it bursting into flames and dancing around on fire, and sell it on the Internet for more than that.
[05:04] <_joe> so i tried it
[05:04] <TIM90> yeh every thing that you have connected
[05:04] <_joe> but i don't think he really knows much about linux
[05:04] <brian98> _joe well, it usually is
[05:04] <nexsan> TIM90: what about mouse, keyboard....
[05:04] <_joe> cause this didn't happen with redhat
[05:04] <brian98> _joe and I'm impartial
[05:04] <EvanIsaac> i reallly realllllly hope this won't make my system unbootable
[05:04] <nexsan> TIM90: they are USB
[05:04] <brian98> _joe where are you @ now?
[05:04] <_joe> ok
[05:04] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  it pays to backup :P
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i don't have anything to backup
[05:05] <_joe> i'm sitting here and it says grub and then has several lines which i think is the shell prompt
[05:05] <TIM90> Well that too can add to your problems
[05:05] <_joe> some vmlinuc
[05:05] <_joe> and every time i try to sudo
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i just want to know if it'll make the actual laptop unusable
[05:05] <Dr_willis> EvanIsaac,  then just do a clean install of the newer versions.
[05:05] <_joe> i get "boot error!"
[05:05] <mikere> How can I switch my xorg to use vesa instead of matrox (matrox is not refreshing properly when I scroll in web browsers)
[05:05] <_joe> maybe i screwed up the install
[05:05] <Phoenix1701> I'm fairly certain it won't, but whenever you find yourself uttering words like that, it's a good plan to make sure you aren't going to be up a creek without a paddle if it does.
[05:05] <nexsan> TIM90: there is nothing else connected except USB devices...
[05:05] <brian98> _joe so your on a different machine now?
[05:05] <_joe> yeah
[05:05] <brian98> _joe ok, you just installed
[05:05] <wickedpuppy> _joe, you are in grub ... not in the bash shell .. are you ?
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i don't have any data i want to back up
[05:05] <nexsan> _joe sounds like a MBR problem
[05:05] <EvanIsaac> i just want the hardware intact
[05:05] <Asc> _joe: it sounds like it didn't boot and you're in the grub console wossname
[05:05] <_joe> i don't know, i thought it was my shell
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> so i can do a clean install if it doesn't work
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> The chances of upgrading to Dapper damaging your hardware is probably very near zero.
[05:06] <nexsan> Jesus come back and kill the penguins!
[05:06] <Alllleexx> Really need help installing a program in ubuntu, but having major problems trying to "decode" the instructions because im a stupid windows user.  I would paste the instructions but they are sorta long, if you could help me out it would be a great help, just send me a PM, cheers.
[05:06] <Asc> _joe: If you did a standard install, it should boot to a graphical login prompt
[05:06] <brian98> _joe type startx and see what errors you get
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> well lhere goes nothing
[05:06] <_joe> ok
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> About the worst I could see happening would be it dances around on your boot block and you end up having to reinstall from scratch
[05:06] <Phoenix1701> And even that is not very likely.
[05:06] <EvanIsaac> everybody cross your fingers
[05:06] <nexsan> ok, i'm gonna try this one more time, if this doesn't work, i'm gonna put ubuntu on hold until the next release
[05:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: What are you trying to install?
[05:06] <_joe> ok i just tried startx
[05:06] <nexsan> this is very frustrating....
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I could of done a clean install of dapper - in the time this questioning has been going on. :P
[05:07] <_joe> it did the same thing that sudo did
[05:07] <Alllleexx> shake 4 for linux
[05:07] <_joe> does ubuntu not come with sudo or startx?
[05:07] <Dr_willis> _joe,  it comes with both.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> _joe: Sure it does.
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: Sorry never heard of it..
[05:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !shake
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about shake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <Shadow_mil> I installed gnome on KUbuntu, does that mean I am using Ubuntu now?
[05:07] <wickedpuppy> _joe, let me just say i think your install is screwed ....
[05:07] <sturm_-> hi, i've been having a VERY annoying problem with ubuntu....i am coding a program of my own, and get a segmentation fault somehow (trying to find the bug), however, EVERY time i get that error, ubuntu crashes my computer completely...even if i run my program in gdb, i get a break when the error happens, and then if i try to quit, bam it freezes the computer again...any suggestions?? its getting quite annoying and hard to find that bug :(
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Shadow_mil,  means you installed Gnome on Kubuntu. :P
[05:07] <_joe> maybe i shoudl try restarting?
[05:07] <jwl007> fluxbox for the win
[05:07] <Dr_willis> Shadow_mil,  pick what gui to use from the login screen
[05:08] <mikere> How can I switch my xorg to use vesa instead of matrox (matrox is not refreshing properly when I scroll in web browsers) - sorry for repeat question but since xchat scrolls i have hard time reading here too =/
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Wow.  Welcome back to 1986, eh?
[05:08] <Shadow_mil> Dr_willis: I do... gnome
[05:08] <TIM90> check the cd for defects and take your time on the install ,maybe do a live cd install,i found it fast and less head aches
[05:08] <Alllleexx> could i maybe send u the instructions and just take a look, like i understand some of it, but the rest im like..whats is that
[05:08] <_joe> could it be perhaps cause i see the windows boot screen for like a a second when the computer comes on that this is happening?
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Shadow_mil: Means you have both, really.    It's possible you found a bug in a system call somewhere.
[05:10] <Shadow_mil> :)
[05:10] <Jack_Sparrow> _joe: Did you run the livecd to install Ubuntu
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> yay
[05:10] <_joe> he says they use unbuntu there and that he gets help here
[05:10] <wickedpuppy> _joe, so you managed to get into ubuntu and ran bash but sudo doesn't work ?
[05:10] <EvanIsaac> i think it's working
[05:10] <_joe> i think so, jack
[05:10] <Phoenix1701> EvanIsaac: No pillars of flame, at least?
[05:10] <TIM90> joe set your hard drives up properly and in the bios
[05:10] <acidtonic> question, I hooked up my ubuntu machine to a different monitor at work, I didnt change any settings, but now that im home, i cannot run at 1600x1200 and I've noticed in my log that it cant read the edid data from my monitor
[05:10] <_joe> my son put in the unbuntu hard drive to install it
[05:10] <Alllleexx> jack i sent u the paste
[05:10] <_joe> so i think it's set up right
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> _joe: Did you get a working desktop and an icon that said Install..?
[05:11] <_joe> we did at first
[05:11] <_joe> but now sudo and startx don't work
[05:11] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, happens everytime i get a segmentation fault, i had the same error last time except it was another place in my code, luckily i found it after a while...
[05:11] <_joe> so i guess i'll have to reinstall
[05:11] <TIM90> joe have windows on any off the drives
[05:11] <Asc> _joe: ....hard drive?  I'd suggest installing from a CD
[05:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Alllleexx: Post a link to your program in the channel
[05:11] <goethe> I can't print anything from Evince anymore... anybody have suggestions??
[05:11] <_joe> well i get a windows screen right at the beginning
[05:11] <brian98> _joe: sorry had to reboot there..
[05:11] <_joe> for like half a second
[05:11] <wickedpuppy> _joe, you are not in bash ... sudo and startx won't work ...
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> no pillars of flame....yet
[05:11] <_joe> unbuntu doesn't run bash?
[05:11] <_joe> but it is linux?
[05:11] <Asc> _joe: you are not in ubuntu
[05:11] <Alllleexx> ok
[05:11] <EvanIsaac> but i think the laptop is going to turn my legs into pillars of flame
[05:12] <sturm_-> last time it was because of a bad assignation of pointers, but this time i think it has to do with my vector class, however i haven't found yet, and it really takes time to reboot every time, its like i just get one shot and hope i fix it
[05:12] <ReinH> Hi folks
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Although...I suppose theoretically a person could dd the install CD contents to a USB hard drive, true?
[05:12] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Well, let's get this down to the bare minimum case: if you create a simple C file like, int main() { int *foo = NULL; foo++; }, what happens when it segfaults?
[05:12] <Alllleexx> http://www.apple.com/shake/specs.html
[05:12] <Arrick> evening Tonus
[05:12] <Arrick> evening tonyyarusso
[05:12] <Arrick> sorry Tonus
[05:12] <sturm_-> hmm gimme a sec
[05:12] <wickedpuppy> _joe, my advice .. pls call your son back
[05:12] <_joe> Asc: no, i'm on my son's computer cause unbuntu won't run
[05:12] <TIM90> joe try a clean hard drive install ubuntu in it an enjoy,that will work
[05:12] <brian98> _joe: download the iso from ubuntu.com burn it, boot into the livecd enviroment and install on machine, should be smooth as a babys bottom
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Hey.
[05:12] <_joe> wickedpuppy, ok
[05:12] <sturm_-> good idea to test :)
[05:12] <EvanIsaac> it's like 150 degrees on my lap
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: On the computer where you are trying to run ubuntu, it is not in ubuntu.
[05:13] <goethe> anybody know how to fix evince to print again??
[05:13] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, do you know how I would go about setting up 1 nic so that it doesnt listen to any ports, but the other one does?
[05:13] <spycat> hi all
[05:13] <_joe> Asc: well i think it is, but it just says "boot failed"
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Can't say I do.
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: better yet, download the alternate install CD so you don't have to boot to a graphical environment.
[05:13] <Arrick> ok
[05:13] <Asc> _joe: Do you know what a boot loader is?
[05:13] <brian98> _joe: download the iso from ubuntu.com burn it, boot into the livecd enviroment and install on machine, should be smooth as a babys bottom
[05:14] <TIM90> and try repairing the windows hard drive ,stick your windows cd in the  drive and Wait for it to boot then press f6
[05:14] <_joe> asc, i don't think so
[05:14] <_joe> asc, is it the windows screen that comes up for a second?
[05:14] <_joe> brian98, ok, will do
[05:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Play Nice, see everyone tomorrow
[05:15] <Arrick> tonyyarusso, what I am trying to do, ist set up this ubuntu box so that all incoming and outgoing on one connection is allowed (network side) and all incoming from the other is blocked except what i specify (internet side)
[05:15] <Asc> _joe: there's a place on the hard drive that stores a program that tells the computer what operating system to boot, and where it is.  The one that comes with Ubuntu (Grub) has a command line
[05:15] <Asc> _joe: it *sounds like* the computer that you're trying to boot Ubuntu on, is in Grub's command line
[05:16] <iLLf8d> _joe, you sure your computer came with that its an option =P
[05:16] <TIM90> thats what i been trying to tell him ASC
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Arrick: Makes sense, and a good idea.  If you work it out, a wiki page on the subject would be good (I assume you've already checked for one).  Good luck!
[05:16] <Asc> TIM90: Yeah....
[05:16] <_joe> asc, aha! i think i saw something about drub
[05:16] <_joe> *grub
[05:16] <Arrick> thanks tonyyarusso
[05:16] <Arrick> !grub
[05:16] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:17] <TIM90> Asc is there a command to repair his Grub loader
[05:17] <_joe> maybe all i need is to repair my grub loader?
[05:17] <brian98> tim90: why would that happen just after installing ubuntu?
[05:18] <Asc> TIM90: I usually do that by invoking dark gods.
[05:18] <EvanIsaac> maybe while dapper is installing you guys can tell me how i can get my netgear WG111T USB Wireless Adapter to work
[05:18] <Arrick> brian98, happens very often
[05:18] <iLLf8d> brian98, a virus?
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> TIM90, _joe: that repair can be done from the Recovering... wiki link instructions.
[05:18] <TIM90> well he has windows on it
[05:18] <brian98> joe_ http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[05:18] <iLLf8d> must be spyware
[05:18] <_joe> maybe spyware
[05:18] <_joe> i had a lot recently
[05:18] <_joe> that's one reason we erased windows
[05:18] <_joe> but redhat seemed to have gotten some too
[05:18] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: you are probably going to need ndiswrapper to do it
[05:18] <brian98> _joe that link should do you
[05:18] <brian98> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[05:19] <vbgunz> mplayer is not in the repos, do I have to build i ?
[05:19] <Asc> TIM90: Actually I have no idea why it's booting to Grub.  Installing windows after Linux should just overwrite the bootloader with its' own, or break it.  Eh....
[05:19] <TIM90> thanks brian98 ill have a look at that :-*
[05:19] <Arrick> man I lost my voice on freenode and havent been voiced in the last 45 minutes
[05:19] <jrib> vbgunz: mplayer is in dapper multiverse
[05:19] <_joe> thanks, brian98
[05:19] <Asc> _joe: did you try to install windows just before this happened?
[05:19] <_joe> i will check it out
[05:19] <jrib> ubotu: tell vbgunz about multiverse
[05:19] <Arrick> whazzup jrib `
[05:19] <vbgunz> jrib: I have all repos enabled...
[05:19] <jrib> Arrick: hi
[05:19] <brian98> joe_ acutally type # grub-install /dev/hda
[05:19] <brian98> without the #
[05:19] <jrib> vbgunz: pastebin your sources.list please
[05:19] <vbgunz> ok
[05:19] <_joe> brian98, will that command work even though i don't have a feedora or noppix cd?
[05:20] <Arrick> later guys an gals
[05:20] <_joe> like the article talks about?
[05:20] <brian98> yes
[05:20] <vbgunz> jrib: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2020
[05:20] <_joe> ok
[05:21] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, hmm im having trouble generating a segmentation fault, any idea of an easy code that will create one?
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> maybe while dapper is installing you guys can tell me how i can get my netgear WG111T USB Wireless Adapter to work
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> no you haven't
[05:21] <TIM90> Later arrick
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> I've been waiting forever though
[05:21] <jrib> vbgunz: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mplayer,  pastebin the result
[05:21] <EvanIsaac> whatsreal you there?
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: The code I posted just above ought to do the trick.
[05:21] <eternalswd> vbgunz, if you want proprietary stuff in mplayer, you're better off building from source.  it's really not that hard, and if you use checkinstall, it will make a .deb file for you and install that so that you can uninstall from synaptic
[05:21] <Asc> _joe: when you booted, did it print a message like "GNU GRUB version x.xx (xxxx lower/ xxxxxx upper memory)"?
[05:21] <vbgunz> jrib: ok
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> int main() { int *foo = NULL; foo++; }
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> Oh, actually, sorry.
[05:21] <Phoenix1701> int main() { int *foo = NULL; *foo++; }
[05:22] <Phoenix1701> That * is important. :)
[05:22] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, nope it doesn't create any error...
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> whatsreal: you there?
[05:22] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: yeah, you are going to need to install ndiswrapper through apt-get or another package manager of your choice and grab the .inf file from the netgear site
[05:22] <whatsreal> I believe
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> i think the cd has a .inf in it
[05:22] <_joe> asc, i think something like that
[05:22] <EvanIsaac> how do iuse ndiswrapper?
[05:23] <vbgunz> jrib: sorry, updating was all I needed
[05:23] <vbgunz> jrib: thanks :)
[05:23] <jrib> vbgunz: np
[05:23] <spuddogg> Anyone here know how to read the info that is in the packets grabbed by airodump?
[05:23] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: let me get you a link
[05:23] <EvanIsaac> ok thanks
[05:23] <TIM90> esc i think a reinstall without windows in the way would sort this out ?
[05:24] <EvanIsaac> i'm going to go get some chocolate to take away the pain
[05:24] <OmniD> whoever recommended me to update my dealie in vmware
[05:24] <brian98> joe_ I thnk at this stage a reinstall is the easiest *duck(
[05:24] <OmniD> thanks
[05:24] <Asc> _joe: Yes, that sounds like the grub prompt.  I have to leave right now, but try installing from a CD.   I know how to make debs and already have the codecs, e.g. gxine and totem play fine. Do you think I should still build from source?
[05:25] <sturm_-> Phoenix1701, ok i created a segmentation fault but it didn't crash this time with a simple main()...
[05:25] <TIM90> lter Asc
[05:25] <whatsreal> EvanIsaac: yeah, my dlink usb adapter gets pretty hot some times
[05:26] <sturm_-> bah, ill go on and try to find it somehow, its just really annoying to freeze the whole computer
[05:26] <_joe> asc, ok, thanks for the help :)
[05:26] <TIM90> ENJOY
[05:27] <Phoenix1701> sturm_-: Check to see if maybe you're doing something really funky in your app, preferably something involving the kernel in some way.
[05:27] <sturm_-> yeah
[05:28] <sturm_-> its weird because i run it in gdb, and then i get segfault, so i do ctrl+z, and stop the app, so then its ok it doesn't freeze, but the 3d app is still open
[05:28] <eternalswd> vbgunz, mplayer has a different codec set than gxine/totem called win32codecs but that is not in synaptic.  if you follow the guide at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187709 you can compile your own, you don't need to do the x264 stuff and replace "make install" with checkinstall.  read pages 12 and 13 of the thread,  I have a link to the full tarball source of mplayer as well as some tips on the configuration line.
[05:28] <sturm_-> and then if i go to shutdown the computer, it tries to close it and freezes on its own
[05:28] <sturm_-> so basically if i do ctrl+z each time im kinda "safe" until i try to shutdown, really really weird
[05:28] <brian98> joe_ I'm out of here, you ok ?
[05:29] <vbgunz> I have w32codecs installed. Will check out the thred anyhow :)
[05:29] <_joe> brian98, i will survive! i'm in the process of running grub-install /dev/sda1 right now!
[05:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, ctrl+z halts, ctrl+c quits.
[05:30] <malice_> ? I deleted my network connection icon from the top right and it was near my calander/time now I went to add it back and it is in the middle how do I put it back?
[05:30] <malice_> I tried move
[05:30] <sturm_-> oh yeah if i do ctrl+c it freezes ;) so i halt it and i can keep on going and start another gdb again...eh
[05:30] <malice_> that does not work
[05:30] <Telroth_Plushie|> sturm_-, kill `pidof gdb`
[05:30] <malice_> it never puts it back to the speaker
[05:31] <goethe> where/who can i ask about evince??   Happy daze if so!
[05:32] <lupine_85> "[04:32]  <-- _: malice_ adds the nick and %2 the reasonRemote closed the connection has left this server (%2)."
[05:32] <lupine_85> is that right?
[05:32] <vbgunz> eternalswd: ok, will look into it, I know how to build like a novice ;)
[05:32] <_joe> brian98, it might be...
[05:32] <lupine_85> looks like bad translation team effort to me
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ I hope it's ok!
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ If not go back to plan a
[05:33] <brian98> joe_ http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[05:34] <_joe> ok thx :)
[05:34] <eternalswd> vbgunz, I compiled my first program two weeks ago, so I'm pretty new as well, but well documented procedures make things pretty easy.
[05:35] <mikere> Welp, hand editing xorg.conf and replacing mga" with vesa" succesfully switched to the vesa driver for me
[05:35] <ranek> How can I get the newest version of Ubuntu?
[05:35] <ranek> I seem to have an older version
[05:35] <mikere> Now for question #2: anyone here been able to get a Lexmark Z33 working with cups?
[05:36] <mikere> ranek: you should be able to upgrade from Synaptic
[05:36] <Flannel> !tell ranek about upgrade
[05:36] <Flannel> ranek: steps are slightly different depending on what old version youre using, that page explains it all though
[05:36] <Sturm___> guess what :P
[05:37] <eternalswd> if I have a proxy server, say server.com:80 that I can connect to from my ubuntu machine, say ubuntu.org with a windows machine ssh'ing to ubuntu.org, would "ssh -L 80:server.com:80 ubuntu.org" allow me to set my windows proxy as localhost:80?
 http://www.hackaday.com/2005/08/31/how-to-ssh-http-proxy-setup/
[05:39] <variant> lo all, how do you set the default video player? I want all video files including dvds to open with vlc
[05:39] <Alien|Freak> hey guys.. anyone know how big the ubuntu mirror is?
[05:39] <mikere> Im at a friends trying to set him up with Ubuntu after his non-genuine Windows became too much to deal with.  Only stopper for getting him converted to Linux atm is getting his Lexmark Z33 printer up - anyone got any suggestions?
[05:39] <lmosher_> I need to install GTK+-2.0 and and GTK+-devel. I'm pretty sure I have gtk installed, but what are the devel packages called?
[05:39] <spuddogg> Anyone here good with aircrack-ng?
[05:39] <EvanIsaac> how long should a 5.1 to 6.06 update take
[05:39] <brian98> variant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34423
[05:40] <Alien|Freak> EvanIsaac, depends on the bandwidth
[05:40] <TuxthePenguin84> EvanIsaac, tooke me about 2 hours once
[05:40] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: 5.10 to 6.06 would depend entirely on your bandwidth, and how much software you had installed
[05:40] <Sturm___> Phoenix1701, yeah, kill kill kills my computer ;) there's no way i can touch to that process , the only way i can deal with it is to put it to halt, and then once im done, i have to manually shut down the computer (hardware way...)
[05:40] <EvanIsaac> i only had the bundled software
  strange q, why? u thinking of setting one up
[05:41] <brian98> ?
[05:41] <variant> brian98: yeah i know you can do that.. i am looking for amore global settins so i dont have to do that for every video type under the sun
[05:41] <EvanIsaac> and my screen just went blank
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> brian98, yeah...
[05:41] <ranek> How do I install the drivers for my Graphics Card?
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> if we have enough space.. I'd like to
[05:41] <EvanIsaac> but i can still hear the HD working
[05:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, nvidia or ati ?
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> I know we don't have enough space for the full debian mirror..
[05:41] <ranek> Nvidia
[05:41] <Alien|Freak> but Ubuntu would be nice
[05:41] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> should the screen go blank during the update?
[05:42] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: screen went blank due to inactivity, probably, normal screensaver sort of thing
[05:42] <ranek> Thanks!
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> then
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> but it was updating
[05:42] <EvanIsaac> or is
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> then reboot
  No Idea :)
[05:42] <Telroth_Plushie|> you should see the nvidia logo when X starts
[05:42] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: right, it most likely still is, blank display is just turning off the screen, not the computer
[05:42] <EvanIsaac>
[05:43] <zer0efx> Evening. For some reason when I try to copy a file to /usr/src/alsa it says i dont have permission to write to that folder? how can I copy files to these main folders?
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> i touched the touchpad
[05:43] <ranek> Ok then, Thanks!, How do I whisper in this program?
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> still blank
[05:43] <spuddogg> Anyone here good with aircrack-ng suite?
[05:43] <TuxthePenguin84> Telroth,Plushiel, does that give you 2D or 3D support?
 sudo cp
[05:43] <Alien|Freak> :(  my univ. main lug users are either ubuntu or gentoo.. gentoo is easy... and works pretty nicely... not sure about ubuntu...   I guess I'll ask uncle google
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> TuxthePenguin84, 3d
[05:43] <Flannel> EvanIsaac: with just the base system, I believe its about 650MB of packages.
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> ranek, /msh <nick> <msg>
[05:43] <krazykit> Alien|Freak: gentoo is not easy... it's a pain when stuff breaks or doesn't compile.
[05:43] <Telroth_Plushie|> i.e. /msg Telroth_Plushie| HELLO!
[05:43] <EvanIsaac> ok
[05:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> but you have to register your nickname first
[05:44] <brian98>  good night all
[05:44] <Telroth_Plushie|> /msg nickserv help reigster
[05:44] <zer0efx> Thanks brian98
[05:44] <Dekkard> is there a command to update the font cache?
[05:45] <jrib> Dekkard: fc-cache I think
[05:45] <EvanIsaac> well i really hope this blank screen isn't a bad thing
[05:45] <ranek> When I typed sudo nvidia-xconfig It said unknown command
[05:45] <bordin> nickserv help register
[05:45] <Alien|Freak> krazykit, I meant as far as setting up a mirror
[05:45] <wickedpuppy> bordin, /msg nick help register ...
[05:46] <jrib> ranek: you have nvidia-glx installed?
[05:46] <Alien|Freak> plus it builds the mirror as we go.... so if the package isn't there yet... it'll download it.. and add it to the repo so the next person that fetches it grabs the cached package
[05:46] <ranek> I typed this before that command, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:47] <jrib> ranek: and what did it say?
[05:47] <bl4cktone> Hi Everybody!
[05:47] <muaddib> Any recommendations on parition a disk that is 900GB
[05:48] <ranek> Hmm I can't seem to whisper people.
[05:48] <jrib> ranek: use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:48] <crimsun> ranek: you're not identified.
[05:49] <crimsun> (this network requires registration and identification for that)
[05:49] <EvanIsaac> any answer to why the screen has been blank for such a long time?
[05:49] <bl4cktone> Anyone know of some kind of log in 6.06 that would permit me to see why when I come back from a few hours away from my laptop it comes up at the loginscreen?
[05:50] <wickedpuppy> i can think of /var/log/messages
[05:50] <tchung> hi, I am trying to install sun-java5-plugin. Does anyone know how to search for it on Synaptic?
[05:51] <ranek> So, how do I register?
[05:51] <tchung> I have tried "sun java" and nothing good shows on
[05:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell ranek about register
[05:51] <jrib> tchung: have you enabled multiverse?
[05:51] <wickedpuppy> ./msg nickserv register password
[05:51] <tchung> jrib: yea.
[05:51] <kronos> hello
[05:51] <EvanIsaac> if i unplug m y laptop from the ac charger, move it upstairs and plug it back in will it screw up my upgrade
[05:51] <tchung> jrib: reloaded my list
[05:51] <IcemanV9> !java > tchung
[05:51] <thompa> does anyone know what creating a 100M /boot partition at install do?
[05:51] <EvanIsaac> in the middle of th eupgrading process
[05:51] <jrib> tchung: what arch?
[05:51] <kronos> can anyone tell me from where can i get the latest kernel amd64 ?
[05:52] <mister_roboto> tchung: sun-java5-plugin?
[05:52] <tchung> mister_roboto: yea
[05:52] <Skarr> hey guys
[05:52] <tchung> jrib: arch?
[05:52] <jrib> tchung: architecture
[05:52] <thompa> how can i view if other partitions are empty?
[05:52] <jrib> tchung: i386, amd64, ppc?
[05:53] <tchung> i386
[05:53] <AngryElf> is there a bash username variable -- or some way i can get the user that ran  my script into a variable?
[05:53] <bl4cktone> !pastebin
[05:53] <jrib> tchung: pastebin your sources.list please
[05:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:53] <subpar> alright, this is a silly question, but I forgot where fstab ws located
[05:53] <jrib> AngryElf: umm there is $USER, not sure if that will give you what you are asking though
[05:53] <Dr_willis>  /etc like most config files
[05:53] <IcemanV9> EvanIsaac: maybe .. logical thought would be wait until it finishes upgrading first before move it to upstairs
[05:53] <subpar> so /etc/fstab correct?
[05:53] <tchung> I think I have got the page to help me .... thank you jrib :-)
[05:53] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, you can always create a second bash script in which it runs the the script you want from the argument it gets
[05:53] <jrib> tchung: k, np
[05:54] <ranek> So I registered now, so I should be able to whisper people, correct?
[05:54] <kronos> can anyone tell me from where can i get the latest kernel amd64 ?
[05:54] <AngryElf> ls
[05:54] <wickedpuppy> ranek, message ...
[05:54] <AngryElf> bah
[05:55] <flaco> hi.. anyone has installed the ipw2200-ap driver?
[05:55] <ranek> wickedpuppy, Testing
[05:55] <EvanIsaac> it seems as if the updating is unpacking and then removing again
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> ranek, no i mean usually we call it private message .. not whisper .. in case you ask help from other channels
[05:56] <wickedpuppy> and they wonder what you mean
[05:56] <freeport> is there w32codes under amd64?
[05:58] <SilentDissonance> hello :)
[05:58] <twopoint0> hello ^^
[05:58] <twopoint0> anyone out there able to help me navigate the repository to get Enlightenment?
[05:59] <mythtvbox> twopoint0
[05:59] <twopoint0> hi
[05:59] <mythtvbox> open up synaptic and browse
[05:59] <mythtvbox> if you dont have your repos setup check out the ubuntu guide
[06:00] <mythtvbox> you can find it by typing ubuntu guide in google
[06:00] <IcemanV9> apt-cache search enlightenment
[06:00] <twopoint0> I was getting some help on the forum, and I was told...
[06:00] <mythtvbox> or do what iceman said
[06:00] <OmniD> How do I get unrar?
[06:00] <mythtvbox> OmniD
[06:00] <twopoint0> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list Remove the # in front of the repositories.Save and exit.Re-start synaptic
[06:00] <OmniD> ?
[06:00] <_Dink> apt-get install unrar ?
[06:00] <mythtvbox> go install automatix
[06:00] <SilentDissonance> bit of an odd question...  I have an Athlon processor in my machine.  This is a fresh install of Ubuntu, so it's running the 386 core.  A package I wish to use states it requires i run the i686 core...  Am I right to assume that this package won't work for me?
[06:01] <mythtvbox> it will install support for unrar
[06:01] <mythtvbox> getautomatix.com or .org i think
[06:01] <IcemanV9> if you want to know what's the version --> apt-cache policy enlightenment
[06:01] <OmniD> _Dink, Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:01] <OmniD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:01] <OmniD> is only available from another source
[06:01] <OmniD> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[06:01] <twopoint0> but i run sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list, and i don't see a # to delete
[06:01] <mythtvbox> Has anyone here ever gotten lirc to work with imon support?
[06:01] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: If it's specifying that tightly, chances are it won't work, that's correct.
[06:01] <variant> OmniD: there is abunch of unrar implementations
[06:01] <variant> OmniD: try unrar-gpl
[06:02] <SilentDissonance> Phoenix1701: thank you.  would it be better, in general, if I switched over to the k7 core?
[06:02] <hav0k> can anyone help me with NetworkManagerApplet?
[06:02] <OmniD> variant, E: Couldn't find package unrar-gpl
[06:02] <_Dink> might have to add a repository or 2
[06:02] <_Dink> not sure which one has it
[06:02] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: I don't have any hard data on that, but I'm pretty confident that the answer is a distinct "yes".
[06:02] <OmniD> I thought I had universal and multiverse enabled though
[06:02] <mythtvbox> OmniD go install automatix
[06:02] <variant> OmniD: search for it
[06:03] <variant> OmniD: apt-cache search unrar
[06:03] <_Dink> its probably in seveas
[06:03] <kvtruong_> hello
[06:03] <mythtvbox> it is a program for installing 3rd party programs such as .ace and .rar support
[06:03] <Phoenix1701> It'll definitely improve performance, and has no discernable down sides that I know of.
[06:03] <foureight84> does broadcom 57xx nic work out of the box with dapper?
[06:03] <hav0k> Network manager applet wont show wireless stuff, it only has wired connection
[06:03] <SilentDissonance> Phoenix1701: lol i figured as much.  I see it on the install CD, and since I've only installed one other thing here, it's not a big deal if it hoses.  The question is, of course, which should I pick?
[06:03] <foureight84> i can't get mine to work
[06:03] <variant> Rookie-: yes
[06:03] <bl4cktone> I was wondering if anyone could help me with this, When I leave Ubuntu alone for an extended period of time I come back and it's at the login screen.  I've attached a copy of my var/log/messages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24955 Thanks guys!
[06:04] <Phoenix1701> Between 686 and k7, you mean?  Or...?
[06:04] <linlin> my ssh sessions to my server are timing out after a period of inactivity, only a few minutes, what could be the problem?
[06:04] <IcemanV9> hav0k: right-click on the icon .. it should show two check boxes (wired AND wireless)
[06:04] <variant> linlin: you need to set the ssh timeout variable
[06:04] <SilentDissonance> ahh, sorry.  Ubuntu CD in the drive, Synaptic up and browsing from the CD.  Got a bunch of kernels listed to install, which should I choose?
[06:04] <hav0k> IcemanV9, yeah, it should, but only wired is there
[06:04] <Dekkard> is there a package that installs default fonts and cursors?
[06:05] <SilentDissonance> I assume it'll be a -k7 one, but there's quite a few versions listed here.
[06:05] <OmniD> mythtvbox, hey synaptic could not find automatix
[06:05] <warlock> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/sbnc/sbnc/tickle.so': Permission denied
[06:05] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: I'd be willing to bet good money this is the issue: "ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting."
[06:05] <warlock> Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> OmniD
[06:05] <mythtvbox> open up a webbrowser
[06:05] <fowlduck> warlock: sudo?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> and search in google for get automatix
[06:05] <warlock> hmm
[06:05] <linlin> i see no timeout settings in /ertc/ssh/sshd_config variant
[06:05] <Phoenix1701> SilentDissonance: Ah.  I think the latest one is 2.6.15-27
[06:05] <variant> please dont use automatix, its lazy and will break your system and we will all laugh at you for using automatix :P
[06:05] <Dekkard> warlock to edit any file not in yer home dir you need to sudo
[06:05] <foureight84> is the broadcom 57xx nic supported in dapper?
[06:05] <mythtvbox> you will go to the automatix website and it has simple instructions on how to get it installed
[06:06] <mythtvbox> its really easy to do
[06:06] <fowlduck> warlock: you don't have permission to create files in that directory, get permissions or use root permissions
[06:06] <IcemanV9> hav0k: it happened to me last week. i went CRAZY trying to figure it out and no answer from forums for a few days. then, all of sudden, it came back on its own. WEIRD.
[06:06] <mythtvbox> but you will be thankfull i showed ya
[06:06] <warlock> Dekkard - well. I'm trying to do "make install" as the user 'sbnc' - can I change the permissions through root so sbnc has access to it?
[06:06] <mythtvbox> it will help get lots of stuff setup on your system with no pain
[06:06] <hav0k> well, it's never been there
[06:06] <SilentDissonance> thank you Phoenix1701.  I'll give it a go, if I'm not back shortly, it wasn't correct.  lol
[06:06] <hav0k> not since i installed it
[06:06] <Phoenix1701> :)
[06:06] <bl4cktone> Phoenix1701: I just forgot I didn't have my new WEP key put into it, do you think that would cause a Firmware Error or would you think it's more a driver issue?
[06:06] <subpar_> ahh, Xorg looks so much better than full screen console
[06:06] <stikif> is the compiz stuff still broken, i am getting errors when i try to apt-get install cgwd
[06:07] <Dekkard> warlock have you tried doing sudo make install?
[06:07] <warlock> as sbnc?
[06:07] <Dekkard> yes
[06:07] <warlock> lets see
[06:07] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: Well, a firmware error is definitely a low-level problem...  driver would be a good guess.  Do you recognize ipw2000 as some particular device?
[06:07] <Phoenix1701> er, ipw2200 rather
[06:07] <warlock> sbnc@zkillz:~/sbnc-1.1/tickle$ sudo make install
[06:07] <warlock> sudo: unable to lookup zkillz via gethostbyname()
[06:07] <fowlduck> warlock: make install is the only step you need root permissions for
[06:07] <OmniD> wow
[06:07] <IcemanV9> hav0k: try to go wireless first before you turn the box on?
[06:07] <OmniD> why has no one told me about automatix before
[06:07] <warlock> k
[06:08] <hav0k> alright, ill try that... ill be back in a sec
[06:08] <Phoenix1701> If that's your wireless card, then it might very well be as you suspect...  though it shouldn't reboot your box just because it doesn't have a WEP key, obviously.  lol
[06:08] <bl4cktone> stikif: I just install compiz a day or two ago here is the link I used to do it with
[06:08] <bl4cktone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[06:08] <IcemanV9> !automatix > OmniD
[06:08] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  best to NOT use automatix
[06:08] <IcemanV9> that's why. :)
[06:08] <OmniD> I know what it is NOW
[06:08] <warlock> worked - but still getting errors, though its the BNC software called sbnc - anyone know anything about it?
[06:08] <bl4cktone> Phoenix1701: yeah it's my Internal Wireless Card for my laptop
[06:09] <OmniD> Dr_willis, why?
[06:09] <OmniD> Is it dangerous?
[06:09] <fowlduck> warlock: if the error is the gethostbyname() it's a DNS error.  Make sure your hostname is included in /etc/hosts
[06:09] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  it has a rather Large and Flame Filled History.. In short.. it can trash the system.
[06:09] <Phoenix1701> bl4cktone: Try the WEP key thing first; if it keeps happening, you might look into that driver (do a forum search for it, perhaps) and see if there are better drivers or more generic ones that still give you the functionality you need but don't cause your computer to spontaneously combust at random intervals.
[06:09] <stikif> bl4cktone, thanks
[06:09] <WhiteDeth> someone please help me with making Bluetooth work :(
[06:10] <warlock> fowlduck - what do you mean? how should the line look like?
[06:10] <OmniD> Dr_willis, thenw hy would anyone recommend me to use it??
[06:10] <OmniD> *then why
[06:10] <warlock> <IP_ADDRESS>	localhost.localdomain	localhost	cow <- is what I got atm.
[06:10] <fowlduck> add zkillz to the end of that line
[06:10] <warlock> ok
[06:10] <Phoenix1701> OmniD: Because "can" isn't the same as "always does", and as you've seen the potential benefits of using it are compelling.
[06:10] <Dr_willis> OmniD,  you DONT see people in here normally reccomending you to use it.
[06:10] <Madpilot> OmniD, automatix is still popular for some reason - why exactly still puzzles many people...
[06:10] <MinisterPolite> OmniD:  its much more stable now, people here would rather you learn how to do what it does manually
[06:10] <Phoenix1701> I've never been tempted to, because I run Kubuntu and I get the impression Automatix will basically install all of Gnome and then merrily do its thing.
[06:11] <bl4cktone> stikif: No problem man I'd go to #ubuntu-xgl if you need more help but that writeup did the trick for me
[06:11] <Dr_willis> EasyUbuntu works very well..but even it is getting less needed.
[06:11] <warlock> sbnc@zkillz:~/sbnc-1.1/tickle$ sudo make install
[06:11] <warlock> Password:
[06:11] <warlock> then it dies..
[06:11] <mike-ekim> how can I set this soit can do console login instead of graphical
[06:11] <zer0efx> I'm trying to get my sound working, and I have to do some alsa work.. when i am compiling the files, i get this error "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[06:11] <mike-ekim> cause it stalls when tis loading the graphical login
[06:11] <IcemanV9> cli is always the BEST to install stuff
[06:11] <Phoenix1701> zer0efx: Sounds like you don't have the build-essentials package installed.
[06:12] <OmniD> Madpilot, isn't it still easy to use? That's why people would use it.
[06:12] <khaije1> anyone know/heard of any linux-based ebay automation tools?
[06:12] <bl4cktone> stikif: I've been running compiz for about a week now it never fails to impress the peeps ;)  I just can't get enough of it
[06:12] <Madpilot> OmniD, yes, it's easy to break your system with it ;)
[06:12] <zer0efx> Phoenix1701: alright thanks.. i'll go look for that
[06:12] <hav0k> IcemanV9, it didnt work... it only had wired
[06:12] <OmniD> Madpilot, I was recommended to use it because unrar is failing install
[06:12] <khaije1> I'm tring to help a non-profit with selling some of their excess inventory :-)
[06:12] <mike-ekim> anyone
[06:12] <mike-ekim> What do I need to do/edit to have Ubuntu boot in and have console login rather than graphical
[06:12] <mike-ekim> ??
[06:12] <freeport> somebody know how to play rm/avi/rmvb under ubunt_amd64
[06:13] <mister_roboto> Phoenix1701: that's not true, it will install many optional packages, some from non-standard repositories. it's not just a matter of installing all of gnome. it will put in all the codecs to play all video and music files/ play dvd's and a lot of other things. stuff that is kind of a ping to do manually
[06:13] <Madpilot> OmniD, unrar is in Universe, I think - if you've got Universe enabled properly, unrar should install just fine
[06:13] <MinisterPolite> khaije1 email me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:13] <hav0k> is there any way to edit it... and add in the eth1
[06:13] <OmniD> Madpilot, it is not there
[06:13] <Madpilot> !info unrar
[06:13] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:13] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: thanks, but why is that?
[06:13] <OmniD> Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:13] <Madpilot> OmniD, sorry, it's in Multiverse - do you have that enabled?
[06:13] <OmniD> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:13] <OmniD> is only available from another source
[06:13] <OmniD> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate
[06:13] <stikif> bl4cktone, are you using it with multiple monitors, i read that could cause problems with it
[06:13] <SeraVitae> hi there
[06:13] <OmniD> Yes
[06:13] <OmniD> I have both enabled
[06:14] <OmniD> Is there any way I could look up to be sure though?
[06:14] <MinisterPolite> khaije1: i may be able to help you unload some of that equipment
[06:14] <Phoenix1701> mister_roboto: Oh, I'm aware of what it's *designed* to do...  but it assumes you're running Ubuntu with Gnome, and if you're not, it'll install everything it needs to get all its Gnomy bits working, which turns out to be a large portion of Gnome.
[06:14] <IcemanV9> hav0k: i don't know. it's all i know. i haven't figure it out on adding eth1 to it. at least, mine got it back for now.
[06:14] <SeraVitae> Im trying to install dapper on a 433mhz celeron with 192mb of ram, the live cd boots fine, but it is EXTREMELY slow to do anything, harddrive and cdrom are going full blast but i just chose english language for install and it's taking about 20 minutes and it's still sitting there.
[06:14] <SeraVitae> is this because the pc is slow or do i have a faulty cd or something?
[06:14] <zer0efx> Phoenix1701: found it, ty
[06:14] <bl4cktone> stikif: No I'm using it on a 17" LCD on my Dell laptop,  you may want to ask the guys at #ubuntu-xgl they know that stuff like the back of their hand.
[06:14] <hav0k> alright... well ill try to uninstall it, and reinstall... maybe it will pick it up... do you know if it's in the apt IcemanV9
[06:15] <Skarr> Do blackhats even exist anymore?
[06:15] <Madpilot> OmniD, easiest way - at least, easiest to explain here - is to open a terminal and type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then pastebin that
[06:15] <MinisterPolite> SeraVitae: slow pc....
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hav0k: i know there is a newer version out there, but it is not in the backport.
[06:15] <mister_roboto> Phoenix1701: ahh, ok. i didn't feel like going through all the manual steps and used it on this kubuntu machine to get all the video codecs.
[06:15] <Phoenix1701> khaije1: Well, if you don't mind having Java installed, there's JBidWatcher...
[06:15] <hav0k> i dont remember how i installed it
[06:15] <harisund> Hello! I have a Ubuntu box acting as a gateway doing nat, and it runs dnsmasq. The DHCP clients on the LAN can identify each other by hostnames, but the Ubuntu box itself doesn't know of the DHCP clients. Anyway around this? I tried adding nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> to /etc/resolv.conf but to no avail.
[06:15] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: oic, it's most books and other odds and ends
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hav0k: yes, it is in the repo
[06:15] <khaije1> iow not computer stuff
[06:15] <Phoenix1701> mister_roboto: Indeed.  Me neither...  I don't really have the need for it, honestly.
[06:15] <hav0k> IcemanV9:  as what?
[06:15] <aeon_flux_yk> hello
[06:16] <khaije1> thx Phoenix1701, i'll check that out :-)
[06:16] <bl4cktone> sikif: Not that it makes it impossible I've seen a few youtube videos of people with dual monitors handling it fine
[06:16] <IcemanV9> hav0k: network-manager-gnome
[06:16] <hav0k> IcemanV9, thanks
[06:16] <OmniD> !multiverse > OmniD
[06:16] <aeon_flux_yk> hello
[06:16] <mike-ekim> hello
[06:16] <mike-ekim> Im having trouble with graphical login
[06:16] <mike-ekim> how can i change to have it boot to console login
[06:17] <mike-ekim> cause it stalls and stops responding after it tries to bring up the graphical login
[06:17] <WhiteDeth> !bluetooth
[06:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:18] <aeon_flux_yk> allow
[06:18] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: if you're talking about from the initial login dialog, you can select that from the session type list on that same dialog (kde/gnome/whatever desktop manager you have, or console)
[06:18] <mike-ekim> ok, but I need to edit the file
[06:18] <mike-ekim> cause the login screen isnt coming up
[06:19] <mike-ekim> so taht would be impossible to set the default session to come up
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> How do I view lsub output?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> does anyone know?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> *lsusb
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> !lsusb
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lsusb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <SeraVitae> lsusb | more ?
[06:19] <WhiteDeth> sweet cheers
[06:20] <SeraVitae> np
[06:20] <khaije1> MinisterPolite: are you still interested although it's not computer equipment? Typically books and things like that
[06:20] <SeraVitae> is there any way with dapper to install directly without having to boot livecd wise? for some reason on like 3 different boxes i've had nothing but trouble trying to do an install from the live desktop. yet when it does get there, it works fine.
[06:21] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: hmmm if X fails to start properly, it should just go to console login automatically. that's what i've seen before when there was an x configuration problem. don't know
[06:21] <mike-ekim> hm
[06:21] <IcemanV9> SeraVitae: grab alternative cd
[06:21] <mike-ekim> can you help me set this to start in console login
[06:21] <mike-ekim> in redhat i would edit inittab, set to run default initmode 3
[06:21] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: have you tried ctl-alt-f1/f2/etc for a console screen?
[06:21] <mike-ekim> but that doesnt seem to cut it here
[06:22] <SeraVitae> IcemanV9 - hm. i might try that if i dont get anywhere.
[06:22] <khaije1> Phoenix1701: it looks like this is for bidding on ebay, i am looking for a tool that could be used by a seller... are you aware of anything like that?
[06:22] <mike-ekim> mister_roboto: yes,i tried that but the computer stops responnding prior to launching the login
[06:22] <Phoenix1701> Oh!  No, sorry...  I'm not.
[06:23] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: you could boot the live cd, then mount your hd and go edit your inittab
[06:23] <mike-ekim> i can
[06:23] <mike-ekim> im in rescue mode now
[06:23] <ranek> Which Cedega should I down load, the one for redhat? I don't see one listed for Ubuntu
[06:23] <mike-ekim> i can edit files
[06:23] <mike-ekim> just tell me where to go
[06:23] <mike-ekim> or what to do
[06:23] <mike-ekim> in the inittab
[06:23] <variant> mike-ekim: you dont edit inittab
[06:24] <mike-ekim> what do I do then?
[06:24] <variant> mike-ekim: oh sorry i was thinking of somtihng else :) sorry, too tired here
[06:24] <variant> :)
[06:24] <mike-ekim> eh
[06:24] <mike-ekim> dang
[06:24] <mike-ekim> ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurfeewfh
[06:27] <mister_roboto> mike-ekim: id:2:initdefault:   is the line for the default runlevel
[06:27] <whurley>  Has any one installed Ubuntu Server on dual opterons? I'm having issues where it doesn't get past "booting kernel". However, I read the forums and I haven't been able to find any solution (not that I couldn't be looking in the wrong place). I'm trying to get this server up and running tonight and hoping someone here can help me.
[06:30] <wolfjb> I'm trying to switch from an installed debian sid distro to ubuntu 6.06. I have downloaded and created the AMD64 Alternative CD, but when I try to do the install, it doesn't recognize my LVM partitions. Is there a howto I've missed that discusses this on the website (or can someone give me some pointers?)
[06:31] <wolfjb> did that post?
[06:31] <wolfjb> take 2 (reposting since it looks like half of my original message got dropped into ether or something)
[06:31] <wolfjb> I'm trying to switch from an installed debian sid distro to ubuntu 6.06. I have downloaded and created the AMD64 Alternative CD, but when I try to do the install, it doesn't recognize my LVM partitions. Is there a howto I've missed that discusses this on the website (or can someone give me some pointers?)
[06:32] <WhiteDeth> no it was posted fine.
[06:32] <wolfjb> sorry for the dupe then
[06:34] <berto-> hi everyone.  does anyone know if it's possible to put the drives in a mdadm RAID array to sleep?
[06:35] <WhiteDeth> Can someone help me install bluetooth?
[06:35] <WhiteDeth> It's installed, and it detects up fine too, just wont find any bluetooth devices.
[06:36] <MinisterPolite> 2 outta 3 ain't bad
[06:36] <wickedpuppy> that brings the question ... do you have any bluetooth device enabled ?
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> lol
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> yes
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> my phone.
[06:36] <khaije1> wolfjb: i don't have advice on your partic situation, but i can tell you that (at least in the past) the installer had the ability you're describing, if you wanted to save time i would suggest installing to a normal partition and then using evms to properly access your lvm parts
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> !bluetooth
[06:36] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:36] <khaije1> wolfjb: though not ideal it would probably save you time
[06:36] <WhiteDeth> I followed that guide.
[06:37] <wickedpuppy> for a real bluetooth ... pls contact your dentist
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> funny.
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> when I do hcitool deb
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> *deb
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> *dev :|
[06:37] <twopoint0> sorry, I can't find enlightenment in the repo, i'm not sure what I am doing wrong
[06:37] <WhiteDeth>  hci0    00:16:41:4B:19:70
[06:37] <WhiteDeth> so I know the laptop detects that there is a bluetooth device installed.
[06:37] <wolfjb> khaije1: the installer has changed (it seems) because the instructions I could find worked perfectly when I did it 5.10 on a different machine
[06:38] <WhiteDeth> but sudo hidd --search gets me nothing.
[06:38] <wolfjb> the 6.06 installer doesn't have (or seem to have) the same functionality
[06:38] <WhiteDeth> it searches and finds nothing :\
[06:38] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, what did ya search ? you have all the repos enabled and updated ?
[06:38] <khaije1> wolfjb: i've noticed the same thing, the general quality of the installer decreased, i guess it's a temporary by-product of trying to get fancy with ubiquity
[06:39] <twopoint0> this is my first linux distro, and my first 48 hours with it, how can i make sure i have all the repos enabled and updated?  I planned on searching enlightenment or E16
[06:39] <wickedpuppy> !repos
[06:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:40] <twopoint0> ty
[06:40] <wickedpuppy> no prob ... btw .. first linux distro ... do you know anyone who is good with linux ?
[06:40] <[BTF] Chm0d> If i have the nvidia drivers installed should I have the file libGL.so?
[06:40] <wolfjb> khaije1: I'm not that familiar with evms, is there some doc somewhere I can go read about it (haven't looked yet...)
[06:41] <khaije1> wolfjb: it's nothing to be intimidated by, it's a unified front end for storage mgmt, you can find plenty w/ a google, or you could install it and check the man page
[06:42] <khaije1> wolfjb: i use it to manage my lvm's and have found it to be *very* easy and useful
[06:42] <twopoint0> i know some people online, from mmos that are good with linux, but i tend to rely on my books, google, and the forums
[06:42] <wolfjb> khaije1: cool! thanks for the tip, I'll go start reading
[06:43] <relaxdiego> hello folks. i need help on my bottom panel. for some reason, every time i log-in, it keeps appearing on top and i have to check "Expand" before i can make it return to the bottom again.
[06:44] <bl4cktone> How do I add Terminal to my right click menu? Anyone?
[06:44] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, no idea about that one ...
[06:44] <twopoint0> wickedpuppy, i see 4 things, 1 that doesnt pertain to enlightenment.  one is a keybinding editor for enlightenment window manger, and the other 2 say that they are a graphical menu editor for enlightenment
[06:44] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: it's strange really. i've tried saving my session after fixing it.
[06:44] <twopoint0> for the sake of simplicity, i want the graphical one right?
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> yup
[06:45] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: still, it happens. even if i turn of compiz+AIGLX
[06:45] <drcode> any one know about grid project
[06:45] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, no idea dude
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> !grid
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <relaxdiego> wickedpuppy: yeah. maybe i should just dump ubuntu for windows.
[06:46] <relaxdiego> JUST KIDDING!
[06:46] <trianglemanwins_> can you run a .run in ubuntu?
[06:46] <WhiteDeth> I dumped Vista yesterday for Ubuntu
[06:46] <relaxdiego> ;-) i love ubuntu
[06:46] <wickedpuppy> relaxdiego, why not ? both are tools .. choose what you want ..
[06:46] <twopoint0> wickedpuppy now how would i go about applying a theme, after having installed elightenment?
[06:46] <WhiteDeth> been great so far.
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, no idea about enlightenment themes .... gnome themes i know
[06:47] <warlock> Is there a way to *look* for a line in a file, ex, if I want to look for the line "something_test.dev" in all of the files?
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> warlock, grep
[06:47] <warlock> could you give me the line for it wickedpuppy ?
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> try grep something_test.dev *
[06:47] <wickedpuppy> try this ?
[06:48] <trianglemanwins_> what is a .run and can it be used in ubuntu?
[06:48] <drcode> is there good grid project in linux?
[06:48] <wickedpuppy> trianglemanwins, can you open it up in text editor ?
[06:48] <WhiteDeth> 839 users in here and like 5 awake.
[06:48] <trianglemanwins_> no, it attempted to
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> it attempted to ?
[06:49] <wickedpuppy> what is it attempting to do ?
[06:49] <deep__> WhiteDeth, 6 awake :)
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> oh, gee sory.
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> I was one off.
[06:50] <deep__> Haha =)
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> still...no one that can help me?!
[06:50] <deep__> WhiteDeth, *starts finding your problem*
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> haha
[06:50] <nandemonai> Hi peoples, anyone know if the MuSE streamer app is available via apt-get for Dapper? I see muse the sequencer and muse-el some project management thing but not MuSE Streamer?
[06:50] <WhiteDeth> my laptop detects bluetooth device, but it doesnt find anything when I search for devices around.
[06:51] <twopoint0> so by using the synaptic package manager, i have not just compiled the file, i have also installed it. is that correct?
[06:51] <deep__> WhiteDeth, what is it your searching for?
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, nope
[06:51] <WhiteDeth> my phone.
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> you never compile
[06:51] <twopoint0> uh oh
[06:51] <twopoint0> well not compile
[06:51] <wickedpuppy> you get a package and install it
[06:51] <twopoint0> i installed the package, but i'm not qute sure where it went
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, which package ?
[06:52] <deep__> WhiteDeth, And with what software are you searching with?
[06:52] <WhiteDeth> terminal
[06:52] <twopoint0> E16 enlightenment
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> two you want to go into the enlightenment issit ?
[06:52] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to use the nvidia video drivers, but I also want to be able to play DVDs, so instead od unistalling the restricted moudles necessary for DVD, I want to edit the restricted modules configuration file according to the instructions on the Nvidia Linux Forums... It tells me to edit linux-restricted-modules but the only file I have in the directory mentioned is linux-restricted-modules-common - Should I make the changes to
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, i mean
[06:52] <WhiteDeth> deep_ I've also tried searching via the Bluetooth OBEX Object, but it wont find any devices either. I know my bluetooth device is working, that's for sure.
[06:53] <deep__> WhiteDeth, must'nt you get a software that can read that specific phone?
[06:53] <twopoint0> i downloaded a them which is dependant on enlightenment
[06:53] <twopoint0> i have the tar.gz for the theme, and i used synaptic to get E16
[06:53] <WhiteDeth> deep_ Not necessary, it should atleast see my phone, detect that there's a bluetooth device around.
[06:53] <twopoint0> but i dont know how to access enlightenment and/or how to apply the theme
[06:53] <CorpseFeeder> when I say "only file" what I meant was "the closest matching file"
[06:54] <jikanter> where is the /proc/mapped_base file in the 2.6 x86-64 kernel?
[06:54] <whurley> any ubuntu server experts online tonight?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, would you mind searching for google on "configuring enlightenment theme" ?
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> !ask
[06:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:54] <deep__> WhiteDeth, Thats true. Err, well. I dunno. :/ i think ubuntuguide.org has something about bluetooth devices.
[06:54] <nandemonai> twopoint0, Enlightment is a whole window manager.. like Gnome or KDe
[06:54] <WhiteDeth> deep_ cheers, ill check there.
[06:55] <twopoint0> someone on irc told me "Copy your folder with your new theme to your ~/.enlightenment/themes folder. Then, start X11 and in enlightenment 'select' the new theme in the Themes 'menu' (you'll see it there)."
[06:55] <twopoint0> ok, i'll take another look at google and see what it tells me
[06:55] <whurley> did
[06:55] <whurley> :)
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, eh ah ... you are already in gnome isnt it twopoint0 ?
[06:56] <twopoint0> yea
[06:56] <nandemonai> twopoint0, A little hint.. to start enlightment you need to log out and change your session from gnome/kde or whatever to Enlightment.
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, then x has already been started ?
[06:56] <nandemonai> *Enlightenment even
[06:56] <PunjabiFLOYDIAN> !deb
[06:56] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[06:57] <twopoint0> so if i change my session, do i do that with killall gdm, and then sudo (whatever enlightenment is)?
[06:57] <twopoint0> nandemonai the first thing i need to do is log out then right?
[06:58] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, pls follow nandemonai help on going into enlightenment
[06:58] <nandemonai> woah
[06:58] <nandemonai> You dont need to kill anything.
[06:58] <Healot> nandemonai wa, nandemonai
[06:58] <twopoint0> >.>
[06:58] <twopoint0> ok i wont kill anything
[06:58] <nandemonai> When you first boot up you get a login screen right?
[06:58] <twopoint0> that is correct
[06:58] <nandemonai> Good ;)
[06:58] <nandemonai> So on that screen is a sessions button..
[06:59] <nandemonai> There you can pick your window manager.. gnome, kde, enlightment etc
[06:59] <Beawolfe> can someone please tell me how to get a par2 file to verify in the GUI?
[06:59] <twopoint0> i can vaguely recall where that is, bottom left or somewhere around there
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> bottom left
[06:59] <CorpseFeeder> I am trying to use the nvidia video drivers from the nvidia website, but I also want to be able to play DVDs, so instead of uninstalling the restricted modules necessary for DVD playback, I want to edit the restricted modules configuration file according to the instructions on the Nvidia Linux Forums... It tells me to edit linux-restricted-modules but the closest match I have to that file in the directory mentioned is linux-restr
[06:59] <twopoint0> ok, so log out and then pick my window manager from the session manager, am i understanding this?
[06:59] <nandemonai> Then just login once Enlightenment is choosen and voila.
[06:59] <wickedpuppy> yes twopoint0
[06:59] <nandemonai> Yup
[07:00] <Flannel> twopoint0: right, there will be a "sessions" menu to choose from at gdm/kdm/xdm (the place you log in)
[07:00] <twopoint0> oh amen, i think this is the first linux thing i have actually understood, i need to get further into my books but it's only been less than 2 days =X
[07:00] <twopoint0> brb
[07:00] <nandemonai> Your doing pretty well then ;)
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> twopoint0, normally linux books are outdated
[07:00] <wickedpuppy> oh well
[07:01] <nandemonai> IRC = Best linux resource ever.
[07:01] <Healot> the latest ones are printed... really
[07:01] <twopoint0> hmmm it's not there