[10:52] <darksteel> i search a command for delet libs who are not use ?
[10:52] <stefg> paladinhugo: are you on a Live-CD now?
[10:52] <eobanb> what libs?
[10:53] <darksteel> libs what is not use
[10:53] <djk_> what shall i do if all printing jobs are queued and the printer isn't busy?
[10:53] <eobanb> why?
[10:53] <eobanb> darksteel,
[10:53] <paladinhugo> yes
[10:53] <Ademan> i just learned about a program called listen  http://listengnome.free.fr/  it doesnt happen to be in the repositories does it?
[10:53] <stefg> then open a terminal and 'sudo -s'
[10:54] <eobanb> Ademan, dont think so.
[10:54] <paladinhugo> done
[10:54] <TokenBad> ok I just tried to compile a program...and did ./configure..and it did its thing...then tried make...and it says there is no make commands
[10:54] <darksteel> i search a command for del orphan libs
[10:54] <pvd2006> Anyone know any good guides to getting good/clear looking fonts on Ubuntu?
[10:54] <eobanb> TokenBad, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:54] <johan_> !patience
[10:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.
[10:54] <Ademan> i've been using rhythmbox for a while, just tried amarok and didn't like it, so i figured i'd try this out
[10:54] <stefg> paladinhugo: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[10:54] <pvd2006> Not yet on the desktop, but in other programs as well
[10:54] <pvd2006> just on*
[10:54] <paladinhugo> done
[10:55] <eobanb> Ademan, try Banshee
[10:55] <dj-toonz> Ademan u can get Listern using Automatix
[10:55] <funkmaster> does any1 know where i can get scanmodem.gz?
[10:55] <Jowi> TokenBad: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:55] <Ademan> eobanb: alright i'll try it out
[10:55] <TokenBad> thanks
[10:55] <TokenBad> trying it now
[10:55] <stefg> paladinhugo: mkdir /media/hda1
[10:55] <Ademan> dj-toonz: i'm not familiar with Automatix
[10:55] <paladinhugo> done
[10:55] <Paladine> anyone know how to fix locale not supported bu Xlib?
[10:55] <stefg> mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:55] <Paladine> s/bu/by
[10:56] <eobanb> dj-toonz, we don't recommend using automatix because then it breaks stuff and people come back asking us for help with the stuff it breaks.
[10:56] <darksteel> it's good
[10:56] <paladinhugo> done
[10:56] <darksteel> good bye
[10:58] <stefg> paladinhugo: nautilus --no-desktop (this will start the filemanager. Copy the contents of /mnt to /home in /media/hda1, make sure to [ctrl-h]  first to get the hidden files as well )
[10:58] <yanis> how do I mount a samba resource?
[10:59] <mbirkis> i am missing /usr/share/xmodmap directory, what do i need to install to get it back?
[10:59] <TokenBad> ok ran make...but now it gives me a warning...
[10:59] <Jowi> TokenBad: what are you compiling?
[10:59] <TokenBad> cgimail for a friend
[10:59] <paladinhugo> copying
[10:59] <ardchoille> TokenBad: warnings can be ignored, it's the errors that need to be addressed.
[11:00] <Timir> Uhhhh, question
[11:00] <paladinhugo> the next time I boot ubuntu, /home will be in /dev/hda1?
[11:00] <stefg> not yet
[11:00] <liquiem> i have a wired problem. after testing xgl (in know, testing and stuff) i want to re-open my firefox, but this time. all i see a copy of the background with the g-w-d. i switched back to Xorg, still the same issue. any ideas?
[11:00] <TokenBad> ardchoille, but from what read it didn't make what it was supposed to make
[11:00] <Jowi> TokenBad: never heard of. can you put the error in pastebin?
[11:00] <Jowi> !tell TokenBad about pastebin
[11:00] <paladinhugo> it will take about 10 min to copy all the files
[11:00] <Timir> If a card is PCI sized, but instead of having the one gap in the connector thing, it has two, one at the front and at the back, but fits into PCI, is it still PCI?
[11:00] <stefg> now close nautilus, and gedit /etc/fstab from the root shell
[11:01] <cougem> heya
[11:01] <SonicChao_> !xgl
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:02] <TokenBad> Jowi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16868
[11:02] <SonicChao_> liquiem, what's a g-w-d?
[11:02] <liquiem> gnome-window-decorator
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to copy a directory.  how would i do that?
[11:02] <liquiem> decorations
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> *in the terminal, of course
[11:03] <paladinhugo> stefg: do I must wait until it finishes copying for me to edit /etc/fstab?
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like /path1/tree1/directory copied to /path2/tree2/directory without having to name the directory the second time.  is that possible?
[11:03] <Jowi> TokenBad: it's only a warning. you can probably do a "sudo checkinstall" or "sudo make install" without problems.
[11:03] <stefg> paladinhugo: yes
[11:03] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: cp -R /dir1 /path/to/target
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> thanks ardchoille
[11:03] <ardchoille> yq
[11:03] <ardchoille> yw
[11:03] <meshyf> !compile
[11:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[11:04] <Jowi> !checkinstall
[11:04] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:04] <TokenBad> Jowi, it will not let me do make install...
[11:04] <yggdrasil> hey jowi wasup
[11:04] <Paladine> you done apt-get install build-essential
[11:04] <ardchoille> TokenBad: ned sudo to make install
[11:05] <ardchoille> *ned
[11:05] <ardchoille> *need
[11:05] <ardchoille> jeebus
[11:05] <Jowi> hiya yggdrasil :)
[11:05] <Paladine> ardchoille, you stole my keyboard when I wasn't looking?
[11:05] <Jowi> yggdrasil: did the e17 packages work for you?
[11:05] <yggdrasil> that e17 didnt work out
[11:05] <yggdrasil> haha
[11:05] <ardchoille> Paladine: it appears so ;)
[11:06] <yggdrasil> i was kinda bummed.
[11:06] <ardchoille> Paladine: I don't think it's the keyboard on my end, I think it's PEBKAC
[11:06] <Jowi> yggdrasil: ah, crap. after all I did. typical. need to learn how to build real .debs correctly one of these days....
[11:06] <yggdrasil> but ive learned to like gnome for the most part its pretty robust and fairly light.
[11:06] <excel> greetings
[11:07] <Paladine> ardchoille, I think echelon is controlling my input devices...
[11:07] <ardchoille> :)
[11:07] <excel> my openoffice word processor is not doing autoformat, even though i've activated it
[11:08] <Lars_G> Is there a tutorial on fake packages for lazy people?
[11:08] <stefg> paladinhugo: all it takes after you've finished copying is editing /media/hda1/etc/fstab and  finding the line with 'hda 2 /home' in it and delete that. save, reboot the computer and check if everythin is well
[11:08] <Lars_G> I am compiling alsa 1.0.11 for my Dapper and I don't want the lib/tools/util beign overwritten
[11:08] <excel> it is quite strange because i have not had this problem with other distributions
[11:08] <Lars_G> by a deb update that is
[11:08] <Jowi> yggdrasil: just a tip if you have the energy, the instructions at www.get-e.org are not that hard to follow (just compile the stuff in the same order that you download them from cvs and it should be ok).
[11:09] <yggdrasil> hmmmm
[11:09] <Lars_G> yggdrasil: Your nick rings a bell.... it was a mythical creature?
[11:09] <yggdrasil> ok maybe one of these days im involved with the development of new ardour and am compiling alot of that
[11:09] <yggdrasil> its a mythical tree
[11:09] <Lars_G> ah the tree. yes
[11:09] <paladinhugo> stefg: thank you a lot.. I can take it from here
[11:10] <yggdrasil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil
[11:10] <stefg> good... it's diiner time for me anyway :-)
[11:10] <Lars_G> Yes the norse tree. right?
[11:10] <meshyf> Is anyone else having a  hard tiem connected to repositories?
[11:10] <yggdrasil> yes indeed
[11:10] <Lars_G> part of Astratu mythology afaik
[11:10] <meshyf> connecting*
[11:10] <paladinhugo> have a nice dinner then
[11:10] <Lars_G> or was it asatru? I always mix the spelling
[11:10] <yggdrasil> hmm... orse could be some other stuff as weel..
[11:10] <yggdrasil> check this wik
[11:10] <yggdrasil> ;)
[11:10] <orcdestroyer> well... how can I auto executed my pppoe-start after run my kernel ?
[11:12] <orcdestroyer> somebody?
[11:13] <Lars_G> sigh I guess I'll have to find the maintainer for alsa-tools
[11:13] <yggdrasil> orcdestroyer symlink it from /etc/rc2.d ?
[11:14] <orcdestroyer> yggdrasil symlink, what you mean?
[11:14] <Paladine> orc (I could be wrong on this but someone will correct me if I am) just put a script in /etc/init.d directory
[11:14] <Lars_G> I'd rather he use rcconf yggdrasil
[11:14] <xnull-> !multivers
[11:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about multivers
[11:14] <xnull-> ?
[11:14] <Lars_G> it'll take care of proper load order
[11:14] <yggdrasil> oh yea i dont know the best mine is ham handed.
[11:14] <judah> Paladine: then you have to sym link it to the run level you want it to start in.
[11:14] <xnull-> how do I enable muitivers?
[11:14] <Paladine> judah ahh
[11:14] <judah> Paladine: /etc/rc2.d for run level two.
[11:14] <ardchoille> !repos > xnull-
[11:14] <orcdestroyer> hum
[11:14] <meshyf> I'm trying to download zsnes using synaptic, but I get this weird error. Can anybody please help me?
[11:14] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: You need to enable it in the init sequence, there are maaany ways to do this
[11:15] <Paladine> see I learnt something new :)
[11:15] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: Basically I'd suggest using a gui helper. to enable it.
[11:15] <judah> Paladine: i'm assuming that you're trying to get something to start on boot?
[11:15] <Paladine> judah, not me, but yeah
[11:15] <Lars_G> o.O
[11:15] <judah> default run level is configured in /etc/inittab
[11:15] <DaveyJ> is there a way to reassign the keys that switch desktops?
[11:15] <judah> most default run levels are 2
[11:15] <DaveyJ> ctrl+alt+arrow
[11:15] <Lars_G> yggdrasil, judah and Paladine.... this site is turning fully mystical
[11:15] <reXin> does anybody know of any solid wired and wireless combo routers... about 8 to 10 ports?
[11:15] <yggdrasil> ahah
[11:15] <Paladine> Lars, hehehe
[11:16] <judah> do an ls -las /etc/rc2.d
[11:16] <auk> i have a brand new 200GB hard drive
[11:16] <Paladine> judah, you seem pretty competent, can you help me fix my "Locale is not supported by Xlib" issue?
[11:16] <ardchoille> auk: nice :)
[11:16] <meshyf> I'm trying to download zsnes using synaptic, but I get this weird error. Can anybody please help me? I think its a connection problem. :O
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: if you're patient. i'm actually working on something right now that should take more attention than this channel ;)
[11:17] <auk> so...i'm partitioning, and i try to allocate some space; it tells me i need to create a disklabel
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: but i get distracted by it sometimes.
[11:17] <Paladine> judah, Iam patient :)
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: do you have a pastebin of your error?
[11:18] <auk> what type of disklabel do i want (msdos, amiga, bsd, ..., sun, loop, etc)?
[11:18] <Paladine> judah, I will have in just a few seconds
[11:18] <auk> ardchoille: birthday present :)
[11:18] <Paladine> soon as pastebin wakes up
[11:18] <ardchoille> auk: lucky
[11:18] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:18] <orcdestroyer> how can I execute this command at terminal tail -f arquivo | fmt -w $COLUMNS -s
[11:19] <Lars_G> auk: For linux, create a linux disklabel, 0x83 if I remember correctly (check first)
[11:19] <Paladine> judah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16870
[11:19] <Paladine> I will give you more details when you finish what you doing, cos it is quit involved
[11:19] <ardchoille> orcdestroyer: type it in ;)
[11:19] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, replace the variable $COLUMNS
[11:20] <s1> can I use a personal cronrc-file in ubuntu?
[11:20] <orcdestroyer> arapehl but what I really need is always execute
[11:20] <orcdestroyer> for my eterm
[11:20] <judah> Paladine: /j #judah-paladine
[11:20] <auk> Lars_G: i looked for something saying linux, or ext2 or something, but i couldn't find any... 0x83 is not on there, nor is anything looking remotely like '0x83'
[11:21] <s1> sorry, crontab
[11:21] <auk> Lars_G, i can list the options if you like
[11:21] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, man eterm, have a look at -e
[11:21] <orcdestroyer> automatically arapehl
[11:21] <ardchoille> auk: what about things like  ext2, ext3, reiserfs ?
[11:21] <Lars_G> auk: Then it's a descriptive label? or it's a list of entries? if it's a list, there should be two pages of it, change to the second page with space if I remember correctly
[11:21] <auk> nope :(
[11:21] <orcdestroyer> how can I execute this command automatically at terminal ?? tail -f arquivo | fmt -w $COLUMNS -s
[11:21] <Lars_G> auk: COpy and paste it all on a pastebin. all of it
[11:22] <ardchoille> orcdestroyer: liquiem already answered you
[11:22] <orcdestroyer> ardchoille but I don't know what to do
[11:22] <auk> the options are: msdos, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, loop
[11:22] <cydrive> is there a way to turn my desktop ubuntu into a webserver that runs in the background? im also connecte dthrough a wireless router is this possible?
[11:22] <fourat> my MIC is not working ! how to get it on
[11:22] <liquiem> auk, you want msdos
[11:23] <auk> liquiem: ok, thanks
[11:23] <orcdestroyer> liquiem can you explain more to me?
[11:23] <orcdestroyer> pls
[11:23] <auk> cydrive: install apache?
[11:23] <Lars_G> Ahhhh that must be partition table format, I guess
[11:23] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, type in man eterm, press enter, type in /-e, press enter
[11:24] <cydrive> no im not sure exactly what to do
[11:24] <meshyf> Is anyone else having trouble applying from Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:24] <Lars_G> meshyf: not me
[11:24] <meshyf> Lars_G: For some reason I am getting this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16871
[11:25] <orcdestroyer> oh
[11:25] <DaveyJ> is there a way to reassign the keys that switch desktops? (default: ctrl+alt+arrow)
[11:25] <orcdestroyer> liquiem let me see
[11:25] <Jowi> fourat: right click on the volume icon and there should be a properties entry there. click capture and turn the mic volume to max. that should do it
[11:25] <joliet> hello
[11:26] <Lars_G> o.O localhost?
[11:26] <ardchoille> Lars_G: hehe, you caught that too, eh?
[11:26] <joliet> can you help me with imq, htb, esfq patches for new kernel 2.6.17 ?
[11:26] <Lars_G> meshyf: You're trying to pull from a locally (your machine) setup http based server??
[11:26] <joliet> i found several patches ut they are not up to date
[11:26] <Jowi> cydrive: apache2 is a very popular webserver and it runs in the background by default (most servers do).
[11:26] <Jowi> !apache
[11:26] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:26] <liquiem> meshyf, paste your /etc/hosts
[11:27] <meshyf> Ilquiem: How do I find that?
[11:27] <liquiem> meshyf, and check if you have something like http-proxy env-variable
[11:27] <Lars_G> ardchoille: The thing is, if he just mistyped a deb line to localhost there should be no response from the local server with a packages list, to then fail at pulling the pkg....
[11:27] <Lars_G> liquiem: Ah good call
[11:27] <liquiem> meshyf, nano -w /etc/hosts maybe
[11:27] <Lars_G> liquiem: Sounds more like an http proxy error... but.
[11:27] <joliet> or tell me if that patches are already in new kernel ... i couldn't find that info, please
[11:27] <knoppix__> i have problems with cups 1.2, can someone help me?
[11:28] <ardchoille> Lars_G: It sounds like a proxy prob to me
[11:28] <liquiem> Lars_G, yeah, but i guess he has no idea what a proxy is
[11:28] <meshyf> I know what a proxy is but I am new to unbuntu and am having a hard time navagating it :P
[11:28] <meshyf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16871
[11:28] <Lars_G> Hahaha, long live cynism liquiem
[11:28] <liquiem> so i guess he installed something that sets the env-var or i dont know
[11:28] <meshyf> er ignore that paste
[11:29] <orcdestroyer> liquiem thx falla
[11:29] <Jowi> knoppix__: you will probably get more answers if you say exacltly what's wrong rather than just say that you need help (just a tip)
[11:29] <orcdestroyer> did you know how see the tty of my mouse?
[11:29] <mbirkis> how do i change the direction my delete key deletes?
[11:29] <meshyf> liquiem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16874
[11:29] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, probably /dev/mouse
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> okay
[11:30] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: See tty or use mouse in text mode?
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> see tty
[11:30] <knoppix__> when i print a test page, than i get: "localhost - - [01/Jul/2006:05:13:36 +0200]  "POST /printers/hplj4 HTTP/1.1" 200 225622 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported"
[11:30] <ardchoille> meshyf: no ip?
[11:30] <meshyf> ardchoille: That's what nano -w /etc/hosts showed me.
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> lars-ut-away see tty
[11:31] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G see tty
[11:31] <Jowi> mbirkis: the keys are in /home/username/.keys directory. so "cd ~/.keys" will get you there.
[11:31] <knoppix__> i have a hp laserjet 4 on the parallel port
[11:31] <Lars_G> meshyf: I guess you either have a (wrongly) set up proxy_http in apt/synaptic/enviroment or an iptables based transparent proxy setup
[11:31] <dagrump_> hello all i have broken x & need some help
[11:31] <meshyf> Lars_G: I think its the formor rather then the ladder
[11:31] <Lars_G> meshyf: Anyhow, if i worked before it might work again just the packages have changed. try to tell synaptic to do an update (update) and then try again.
[11:31] <mbirkis> Jowi: they aren
[11:32] <meshyf> lars_G: ok
[11:32] <Lars_G> oh no, sorry it's a connect error, the update should fail
[11:32] <mbirkis> Jowi: they aren,t
[11:32] <Lars_G> not that there is anything wrong in trying anyhow
[11:32] <knoppix__> i have a hp laserjet 4 on the parallel port
[11:32] <knoppix__> gnome-cups-manager says: Printing to 'hplj4' failed with error code: 1034
[11:32] <knoppix__> is the printer paused ?
[11:33] <Jowi> mbirkis: what keys are you talking about exactly. pgp or ssh or something else?
[11:33] <meshyf> Lars_G: Yeah its definitly a network error. I gotta find that anonymyser I downloaded.
[11:33] <Lars_G> meshyf: I wouldn't recommend an anonymyzer for package instalation, I doubt Ubuntu is after you via their logs, and it will delay the transfer a little, but that's me.
[11:34] <meshyf> Lars_G: It wasn't for unbuntu :p
[11:34] <mbirkis> Jowi: my keyboards delete key deletes the wrong direction...  no ssh or stuff like that
[11:34] <auk> for root partition, do i want ext2 or ext3?
[11:34] <Jowi> mbirkis: oh. totally misunderstood that one. bummer.
[11:35] <stefg> auk: you want reiser
[11:35] <mjr> auk, ext3, definitely
[11:35] <auk> stefg: pfft
[11:35] <mbirkis> Jowi: i probably wasn
[11:35] <mjr> reiser's reliability is more questionable
[11:35] <karl> anyone help with captive on dapper, installed, fstab has mount points but when I click on drives it tells me I dont have permision to mount, if i mount in term (sudo mount) when I try to ls I get nothing
[11:35] <roostishaw> what command do i use to start apache2?
[11:35] <mbirkis> Jowi: clear enough in the question
[11:36] <stefg> mjr: urban myth
[11:36] <Lars_G> mjr: It might be, but My machine used to crash a lot. And it cost me lots of data with ext3, I haven't lost a bit since I'm on reiserfs. Can be good luck, but I still feel safer
[11:36] <Lars_G> I'm only sad Reiser4 isn't still widespread enough to be easily usseable :)
[11:37] <nubsauce> hey guys, i need to change a global variable... or something. i'm trying to set up my nvidia drivers, and it's telling me i can't compile the kernel
[11:37] <liquiem> use ext3! rw support from windows ^^
[11:37] <Jowi> mbirkis: It is hard to say what might be wrong. maybe you have either 1. wrong keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2. wrong language setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or 3. both. do you have any experience in altering that file?
[11:37] <Lars_G> liquiem: And that's a PLUS?
[11:37] <liquiem> karl, i wouldnt recommend captive, try ntfs-tools/ntfs-progs
[11:37] <mbirkis> Jowi: i have muckled about abit in it yes
[11:37] <mbirkis> will go see
[11:38] <liquiem> Lars_G, yep, as a gamer, well, you got the point :)
[11:38] <karl> thanks - but I need rw and I read that ntfs-tools is not a reliable way to rw
[11:38] <Lars_G> liquiem: I use Cedega for the few games I want to play, and be done. :P but that's me, lol
[11:38] <Lars_G> karl: There's a rw capable driver but it's commercial and costs money (a bit)
[11:38] <liquiem> karl, wrong, i use ntfs-tools all the time and thats working perfectly so far. even undeleting something *g*
[11:38] <nubsauce> anyone know anything about changing "cc" or something like that so i can compile my kernel?
[11:39] <Jowi> mbirkis: have a look at the Option "XkbModel" "pc10x" if the wrong number of keys are set there you might have that sort of problem. example: you have 102 key keyboard and have 105 in xorg.conf
[11:39] <_Luks> how to compile a c++ code on gcc ?
[11:39] <foxiness> after i run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' , there pop-up configure about IBAM "load the apm kernel model now ?" , i do not know what should i do here,any idea
[11:39] <Lars_G> liquiem: Wasn't there a newer userspace ntfs driver too? that was stabler?
[11:39] <roostishaw> what command do i use to start apache2?
[11:39] <Lars_G> _Luks: ask in #c++ but they'll probably tell you to read the docs in the page
[11:39] <karl> Lthanks liquiem I go retry - only need to move some stuff so I can use all my internal drives for ubuntu - no more win xp for me had it upto the top with it
[11:39] <mbirkis> Jowi: Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105" <-- i have a laptop, what should i use here?
[11:40] <liquiem> Lars_G, thats ntfstool i guess. fuse-based. i dont know anything newer, just kernel limited rw support
[11:40] <nubsauce> @luks: no, i'm getting an error that cc isnt a proper global variable or pointer or something
[11:40] <nubsauce> i forgot the term
[11:40] <Lars_G> roostishaw: "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[11:40] <_Luks> Lars_G: i've searched it on man pages ... but the man pages are so complex ...
[11:40] <Myrth> lol had a questions and found the answer during the time mIRC was loading :)
[11:40] <orcdestroyer> iptables -A FORWARD -s <IP_ADDRESS>/16 tcp --deport 553 -j REJECT ... is correct?
[11:40] <Lars_G> _Luks: Sorry to say this but gcc is not an end user tool :)
[11:41] <radioaktivstorm> how do i install macromedia flash on ubuntu?
[11:41] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: --dport not --deport
[11:41] <Jowi> mbirkis: i can't say for sure. I don't have a laptop anywhere near here. try pc102, and also see that Option "XkbLayout" is set to your language ("se" for swedish, "fi" for finnish etc)
[11:41] <_Luks> Lars_G: oki 8-)
[11:41] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: and if you'll use ports, you'll need to specify protocol and load protocol settings: -p tcp -m tcp
[11:41] <Lars_G> radioaktivstorm: Killing yourself is more pleasurable than dealing with flash
[11:42] <mbirkis> Jowi: after changing i need to restart x right?
[11:42] <liquiem> radioaktivstorm, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <ardchoille> Lars_G: hahahaha
[11:42] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G thx
[11:42] <Jowi> mbirkis: normally, if you have a "windows" key and a "menu" key on your keyboard it should be 105. but then again, i can not say for sure. yes, after the change you need to restart X.
[11:42] <Jowi> mbirkis: make a backup of xorg.conf before changing it
[11:42] <mbirkis> Jowi: ok... thnx
[11:43] <Jowi> roostishaw: did the xlib error go away after your restart?
[11:44] <foxiness> "IBAM configuration" : this come after i do apt-get dist-upgrade ,any help
[11:44] <roostishaw> Jowi, unfortunatly not. but i tried 'xhost +', and that worked, so i added it to startup
[11:44] <Lars_G> radioaktivstorm: All you'll find is flash 7, 8 never came out and 9 will be LONG delayed even when the windows and mac versions were declared final last week. Anyhow, go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW to get the player. if I remember well it has an installer script inside the package, which you'll probably have to run with su
[11:44] <murtun> Hey all
[11:44] <meshyf> lars_G: Ok I have gotten rid of that anonomyser and set my system->network proxy to direct internet connection. I can connected to gaim etc but not the packages D:
[11:44] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G did you know how protocol I use for 553 port ?
[11:44] <murtun> My Sound is working in XMMS, but not on the system its self...
[11:45] <radioaktivstorm> hey thanks!
[11:45] <murtun> how can i set the sound card for Kubuntu??
[11:45] <Jowi> great roostishaw. might be that an update screwed it up for you. "xhost +local:" was the next thing on my suggestion list.
[11:45] <Lars_G> meshyf: Check the synaptic preferences for proxy settings
[11:45] <liquiem> meshyf, try export | grep 4001 and see if something is declared
[11:45] <murtun> Hey all, how can i set the sound card for Kubuntu??
[11:45] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: rephraze your question
[11:45] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G wich protocol I use for 553 ?
[11:46] <meshyf> lars_g: Sunaptic is set to direct internet connection.
[11:46] <finalbeta> Dapper has a volume icon in the right above corner, when you doubleclick it, something is supossed to start, but it doesn't. Anyone else has this problem? no volume control.
[11:46] <Lars_G> meshyf: Very odd. Just in case did you restart it since you removed the anonymizer?
[11:46] <meshyf> Lars_G: No I haven't
[11:46] <orcdestroyer> iptables -A FORWARD -s <IP_ADDRESS>/16 tcp --dport 553 -j REJECT ... is correct?
[11:46] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: What are you sending over 553? It's not listed on my /etc/services
[11:46] <orcdestroyer> what protocol I use ?
[11:46] <mbirkis> Jowi: it didn't work... it is like my delete key and backspace key are mapped to the same key
[11:46] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: you seem to be using tcp
[11:46] <Lars_G> it's not completely correct
[11:47] <nubsauce> alright, i have the error message now: "make sure you have your distro's libc dev package installed and that cc is a valid compiler name"
[11:47] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer:  iptables -A FORWARD -s <IP_ADDRESS>/16 -m tcp -p tcp --dport 553 -j DROP
[11:47] <meshyf> lars_G: I'll try to restart then I'll be back.
[11:47] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: Try that
[11:47] <Jowi> mbirkis: try to hit "num lock" and see if that's what messing it up
[11:47] <goonies> im having problems getting compiz to start, i type gnome-window-decorator & xorg restarts =\
[11:47] <nubsauce> and then something about pointing the cc environment variable to a compiler which can make my kernel for me
[11:47] <ardchoille> mbirkis: which app is this problem in?
[11:47] <johan_> checking for X... no
[11:47] <johan_> configure: error: "You must have X installed"
[11:47] <johan_>  What do I need to download?
[11:47] <apokryphos> johan_: have you read the FAQ section on compiling?
[11:47] <mbirkis> Jowi: i don't have numlock, it is a laptop, and it is in all apps
[11:48] <karl> liquidm - thanks works, well seems to cheers
[11:48] <nubsauce> i have libc dev installed, and that's about the end of my knowledge
[11:48] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G thx a lot
[11:48] <_stev_> what command is there to check my sound? My volumes are up, but no sound
[11:48] <johan_> apokryphos: no, where is that?
[11:48] <apokryphos> johan_: /topic
[11:48] <gNk> hi
[11:48] <ardchoille> gNk: hi
[11:49] <niki> what's the console command to delete an entire directory, including any recursive directories and files?
[11:49] <liquiem> niki, rm -r /dir
[11:49] <Lars_G> niki: rm -R <dirname>
[11:49] <niki> -r or -R?
[11:49] <liquiem> try it out ^^
[11:49] <niki> good idea :D:D
[11:49] <liquiem> doesnt matter tbh
[11:49] <Lars_G> they're equivalent by now.
[11:50] <basschimp> hi guys
[11:50] <andi5> unlike ls
[11:50] <Lars_G> I am just set up from older distros, in which it was -R only ;)
[11:50] <nnk> Hey, I'm trying to remove the icons for my ntfs/fat32 partitions off my desktop without making any other changes (like unmounting them).
[11:50] <niki> sweet...thanks liquiem, Lars_G
[11:50] <Jowi> mbirkis: you absolutely have a num-lock even on a laptop. on a laptop, if the numlock is disabled (or enabled, depends on the laptop model usually), some keys on the keyboard act as a normal numerical keypad. tunring it on/off will enable/disable this feature.
[11:50] <nnk> Anyone able to help?
[11:50] <basschimp> i'm having some difficulties with compiz, could anyone help me out?
[11:50] <dibblego> !dvd
[11:50] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:50] <apokryphos> basschimp: /msg ubotu compiz
[11:50] <ardchoille> is it true that the tar command no longer needs the "-" in its options? tar xjf filename == tar -xjf filename ?
[11:50] <Lars_G> nnk: drag them to your trash can, they're just links
[11:50] <apokryphos> ardchoille: that was changed ages ago
[11:50] <Lars_G> ardchoille: tias
[11:51] <goonies> for some reason when i run gnome-window-decorator it kills my X, does anyone have any idea why?
[11:51] <ardchoille> apokryphos: oh? guess I need to get out of bed once in a while, lol
[11:51] <LiraNuna> hello
[11:51] <apokryphos> ardchoille: tar *needs* you to choose a particular option, hence the hyphen isn't necessary
[11:51] <andi5> can somebody tell ubotu to tell me about firefox java plugin for amds? no sun, only blackdown 1.4?
[11:51] <dibblego> !tell dibblego about dvd
[11:51] <liquiem> Lars_G, wouldnt pmount or something renew the icons?
[11:51] <ardchoille> apokryphos: ok, makes sense
[11:51] <apokryphos> andi5: /msg ubotu brain to search for factoids
[11:51] <Lars_G> liquiem: Hmmm... it shouldn't... afaik
[11:52] <Lars_G> liquiem: The icons are provided by the Desktop enviroment (Gnome in this case? sawfish then)
[11:52] <liquiem> Lars_G, i dont have that icons in the first place, so no idea where they're coming from
[11:52] <meshyf> Lars_G: Yeap that did the trick. I keep forgetting the need to restart.. :P
[11:52] <andi5> apokryphos: thanks
[11:52] <ardchoille> nautlus usually takes care of the desktop icons in gnome
[11:53] <Lars_G> liquiem: And they're refreshed by the Desktop enviro when the directory they refer to changes. etc. it's not pmount's job to refresh them. so once removed they shouldn't show again unless re-created by hand on the desk env
[11:53] <Lars_G> meshyf: At least we don't need to restart AS often as windows :)
[11:53] <LiraNuna> hi
[11:53] <nnk> Lars_G: no good, I get can't delete error, followed by a rec that I unmount them.
[11:53] <LiraNuna> i tried to compile Anjuta 2.0.2
[11:53] <lukaszg> nnk: Applications > System tools -> configuration editor, then apps-->nautilus-->desktop-->volumes_visible
[11:53] <LiraNuna> but then I couldn't compile it because it needs libgdl 0.6.1 or higher and libgdl 0.6.1 needs the new libc6 and that didn't lead to anything good
[11:53] <meshyf> Lars_G: I never really had to restart all that often with windows, at least after the inital install.
[11:53] <Jowi> mbirkis: if all else fail, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the default options, then restart X. your keyboard should (hopefully) be set to the correct settings.
[11:53] <LiraNuna> now Anjuta won't start
[11:54] <`underOATH> what are some good movies, i'm going on vacation tomorrow and need some good movies to download for the ride
[11:54] <Lars_G> LiraNuna: At least your system starts, you're lucky, playing with libc is dangerous
[11:54] <LiraNuna> hehe
[11:54] <`underOATH> that was an amsg btw :P
[11:54] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Horribly terribly OT
[11:54] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Ah ok.
[11:54] <`underOATH> yeah :P
[11:54] <foxiness> "IBAM configuration" : this come after i do apt-get dist-upgrade ,first time i saw this
[11:55] <`underOATH> well actually Lars_G i will be dowlnoading them on my ubuntu computer :P
[11:55] <`underOATH> i run ubuntu on my laptop
[11:55] <alex_> where install programs normally? have ubuntu 5.1 gnome
[11:55] <murtun> How do i set which sound card ALSA uses?
[11:55] <Jowi> foxiness: ibam is a battery monitor for laptops
[11:55] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Which makes it more On topic, but possibly illegal since most legal software for downloading movies exists for Windows or Mac only
[11:55] <alex_> blue j wants to know the directory to install to
[11:56] <`underOATH> what about frostwire like limewire or whatever it's called
[11:56] <Lars_G> murtun: It should be detected by udev and loaded (the modules)
[11:56] <`underOATH> thats legal :P
[11:56] <Nikolas> never fear, Nikolas is here
[11:56] <Lars_G> `underOATH: more than 98% content found there is illegal to download
[11:56] <nnk> lukaszg; thanks.
[11:56] <Nikolas> Has anyone gotten anjuta 2.0.2 work properly on ubuntu?
[11:56] <kolaje> does anyone know how to fix the annoying blackbar problem for toshiba satelite laptops?
[11:56] <liquiem> murtun, alsa uses every soundcard thats supported. to be more specific, you have to use alsarc (filename should be different?)
[11:56] <auk> alex_: all over teh filesystem, normally on ewould use apt (a sofwtare package manager program)
[11:56] <`underOATH> k Lars_G: you win :(
[11:56] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Unless you're specifically on the hunt for Creative Commons or Public Domain movies.
[11:56] <lukaszg> nnk no problem
[11:56] <gdb> omg, I just checked the debian download page -- it's 14 cds...
[11:57] <foxiness> Jowi, its use apm i think dapper use acpi, and it want to do on first page of this wizrd "Load the apt kernel model now?"
[11:57] <gdb> 2 dvds!
[11:57] <auk> gdb: lol
[11:57] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Of wich (public domain) I recommend "Night of the living dead" (first edition) and "Plan 9 from outer space" both are public domain already, and I love bad B movies
[11:57] <alex_> but there is no blue j! blue j is only as a jar file
[11:57] <`underOATH> i'll check them out lars_g :)
[11:58] <Jowi> foxiness: yeah, dapper use acpi. if your laptop requires it, you can force apm to load instead (don't ask me how, i haven't tried that)
[11:58] <auk> alex_: a jar file? like, a firefox extension?
[11:58] <alex_> i dont know?
[11:58] <gdb> This is what attracts me to Ubuntu.  Not only is the philosophy behind the name a wonderful concept, but it's *one cd that just works*.
[11:58] <auk> alex_, do you have a web link to "blue j"?
[11:58] <earHertz> sekking of just works, why doesn't apt-get install ncurses just work?
[11:59] <gdb> auk: A jar file is a Java ARchive.  It's basically a tar file that contains java class files and some other information necessary for the jvm to load and run them correctly.
[11:59] <alex_> yes
[11:59] <cydrive> can someone help em setup a webserver with my ubuntu desktop
[11:59] <gdb> cydrive: $ sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:59] <Kyral> !lamp
[11:59] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:59] <gdb> cydrive: And that's it!
[11:59] <foxiness> Jowi, i hope i find how-to or any doc about this wizrd "IBAM configration"
[11:59] <auk> gdb, i thought it was Javascript ARchive
[11:59] <Lars_G> time to restart wish me luck
[11:59] <cydrive> i have apache 2 but how exactly do i use it and everything?
[11:59] <alex_> www.bluej.org/
[11:59] <earHertz> so, who do I type to install teh ncurses lib?
[11:59] <gdb> auk: Nah, it's the real Java deal. :-)
[12:00] <`underOATH> Does anyone know if there are ATI linux drivers for the mobility radeon series on a laptop ?
[12:00] <Jowi> foxiness: yeah, i haven't seen it before either
[12:00] <Lars_G> auk: No, JAR is a java file, which is basically a ZIP file with java classes and a desriptor
[12:00] <dibblego> JAR == Java ARchive
[12:00] <alex_> but where i have to install blue j?
[12:00] <Lars_G> auk: It's a way to encapsulate a java library/program in a single file
[12:00] <dli> earHertz, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[12:00] <andi5> earHertz: ncurses is installed by default, do you want the dev package? (e.g. for compiling a kernel)
[12:00] <earHertz> dli: thanks.
[12:00] <cydrive> how do i use apache?
[12:00] <kingruedi> does anybody here uses automatix?
[12:00] <johan_> I've gotten my playback buttons on the keyboard to get recognised in the keyboard shortcuts config, but rhytmbox still won't do anything when I press them. Why?
[12:00] <auk> ok, i stand corrected
[12:00] <gdb> auk: It's a way to make system administrators nuts. ;-)
[12:00] <dibblego> Javascript and Java are very different things - similar lexical names
[12:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> what is the lame library?  for mp3 ,  like liblame-dev or lame-dev or something like that?
[12:00] <`underOATH> kingruedi, i have used it. it works nice


[07:37] <YoBoY> bonjour
[09:14] <bkerensa> YoBoY: Bonjour
[09:15] <YoBoY> hi bkerensa, how are you ?
[09:15] <bkerensa> YoBoY: Well good I guess... Just working on my servers at 1:15am
[09:15] <bkerensa> :D
[09:17] <YoBoY> it's a good hour to work, nobody to disturb you :)
[10:08] <bkerensa> heh true


[15:49] <Rinchen> tyche, pong
[15:50] <tyche> Rinchen: I appreciate the return, but the UWN is out, now.  We wanted to know as much information as is possible concerning the Launchpad opensourcing, for a splurb in the UWN.
[15:50] <Rinchen> ah, ok.
[15:50] <Rinchen> I guess you can use whatever is in the video
[15:51] <beuno> tyche, I can get that for you for the next one  ;)
[15:51] <tyche> The splurb was pulled for this week.  However, if someone could be convinced to write something up (so we could point to a URL to show that we're honest :-D  ) it would be appreciated.
[15:52] <tyche> beuno: Thanks.  I appreciate that.
[15:52] <tyche> BTW, how was UDS?
[15:52] <beuno> tyche, AWESOME
[15:53] <tyche> Hee hee.  Great.  I got much the same information from boredandblogging.
[15:53] <tyche> Someday, when I'm rich, I'll have to see about attending one, myself.
[16:05] <boredandblogging> beuno: it was good to finally finally meet you
[18:59] <beuno> boredandblogging, same here. I'm kinda sorry I was so busy though
[19:00] <boredandblogging> beuno: don't worry about it


[14:57]  * skaet waves
[14:57] <popey> o/
[14:57] <brendand> o/
[14:57] <scott-work> O/
[14:57] <skaet> :)
[14:58] <smartboyhw> o/
[14:58] <seb128> hey
[14:58] <gilir> o/
[14:58] <arosales> hello
[14:59]  * Riddell not really here, ill in bed
[14:59]  * stgraber waves
[14:59]  * stgraber hopes the wifi will be kind of stable for the next hour...
[15:00]  * highvoltage *bzzzt*
[15:00] <skaet> hello all.  :)
[15:00] <skaet> #startmeeting
[15:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 31 15:00:34 2012 UTC.  The chair is skaet. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:00] <skaet> Weekly Release Agenda (and minute location):
[15:00] <skaet> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2012-08-31
[15:00] <skaet> .
[15:00] <skaet> Upcoming dates:
[15:00] <skaet> 12.10
[15:00] <skaet>     2012/09/06: 12.10 Beta 1
[15:00] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Work Items:
[15:01] <skaet> 2012/08/31 -  3025 (was 3011  (last  week):   We are behind the trendline for some of the projects.
[15:01] <skaet> We’ve now gone into Feature Freeze, so getting us back on track would be appreciated.  If something is clearly not going to make it this cycle, please mark it POSTPONED.
[15:01] <skaet> Please help get us back where we should be by making sure https://launchpad.net/~/+upcomingwork is up to date for your tasks.
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Bugs:
[15:01] <skaet> Quantal: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[15:01] <skaet> .
[15:01] <skaet> Weekly status:
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001836.html - desktop - seb128
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001837.html - server - arosales
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001839.html - edubuntu - stgraber
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001840.html - kernel - ogasawara
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001841.html - security - jdstrand
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001843.html - linaro - fabo
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001846.html - xubuntu - knome
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001849.html - foundations - ogra_ / slangasek
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001850.html - Ubuntu Studio - ScottL
[15:01]  * slangasek waves
[15:01] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001854.html - Unity - popey
[15:02] <skaet> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001858.html - Lubuntu - gilir
[15:02] <skaet> ?? - community - balloons
[15:02] <skaet> #topic Comments and Questions
[15:02] <skaet> I’m on a rather problematic network right now, so if I drop off during the meeting,  slangasek has kindly agreed to take over the hosting.  I’ll rejoin as soon as I can.
[15:02] <skaet> any one have some questions ('o/') ready to start asking?
[15:03] <popey> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001859.html - community - balloons
[15:03] <skaet> thanks popey  :)
[15:04] <seb128> o/ (not question but I want to do a status update from desktop at some point, I guess that's on list of topic for some others as well though)
[15:05] <skaet> seb128,  go ahead I've got some specific questions, but lets see if your update addresses them ;)
[15:05] <gema> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001831.html - QA - gema
[15:05] <seb128> ok
[15:05] <seb128> so we are verrrrrry late for unity (sorry again)
[15:05] <seb128> but we just got the stack fully acked as approved and flagged green for release
[15:05] <seb128> that includes compiz,nux,bamf,unity
[15:06] <seb128> with compiz GLES (give us arm desktop back on the panda) and unity coverflow,preview,webapp
[15:06] <seb128> so we would like to get the green line to land that today
[15:06] <seb128> some of us will be watching for any potential issue tonight and tomorrow
[15:06] <seb128>
[15:06] <seb128> that's the main topic
[15:06] <seb128> otherwise we would still like to land
[15:06] <seb128> - a libreoffice update to fix appmenu using 100% unity cpu madness (ready in the next hour for upload)
[15:07] <seb128> - a small bug fix version for indicator-messages
[15:07] <seb128>
[15:07] <seb128> and I think that's it for desktop
[15:07] <seb128> ..
[15:07] <brendand> skaet, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001830.html - hardware certification - brendand
[15:07] <stgraber> as I said yesterday in #ubuntu-release, I'm personally ok (though far from happy) to have it land by EOD today (for unity/compiz/...). That's as long as we have someone from the unity team and desktop team around to fix/revert anything that breaks over the weekend
[15:07] <skaet> thanks seb128
[15:08] <skaet> sorry brendand, gema - my cut paste had error in it, meant to paste your report links.
[15:08] <gema> skaet: no prob
[15:08] <skaet> (and thanks for pasting them)
[15:08] <brendand> skaet, np
[15:08] <seb128> stgraber, status is that we have things ready now so that will make end of day target, and we have people from #ps and desktop who agreed to watch out
[15:08] <skaet> seb128, popey - will this next drop address: There are 2 bugs that IMO are important and haven't seen on other reports:
[15:08] <skaet> * Bug:1042211 - [quantal] [regression] [i915] Corrupted display, desktop
[15:08] <skaet> and menus don't repaint correctly using Mesa 9.0 (8.0.4 works)
[15:08] <skaet> * Bug:1005677 - Re-emergence of "Gtk-CRITICAL **:
[15:08] <skaet> IA__gtk_widget_style_get: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)'"
[15:09] <popey> bug
[15:09] <popey> bug 1042211
[15:09] <seb128> skaet, no
[15:09] <seb128> first one is mesa
[15:09] <popey> bug 1005677
[15:09] <seb128> tjaalton, ^ do you know what's the status for that and beta1?
[15:09] <gema> skaet and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1044299
[15:09] <popey> (for the lazy)
[15:09] <seb128>
[15:09] <seb128> the second one is overlay-scrollbar and qt
[15:09] <seb128> need to chase Cimi on that again
[15:10] <seb128> but it's out of the unity stack for both
[15:10] <stgraber> seb128: good. I guess the unity stack needs to go through -proposed to avoid skews? if so, please poke me once it's there so I can make sure it builds ASAP. Would be a pain to get stuck waiting for powerpc/arm.
[15:10] <skaet> seb128,  understood - we'll need to make sure that they're both well documented in the technical overview notes then.
[15:11] <seb128> stgraber, yes, through proposed
[15:11] <seb128> skaet, I'm chasing people, will get you a status update before eod and try to see if we can still fix today
[15:11] <skaet> Thanks seb128
[15:12] <skaet> please nick highlight to Laney, stgraber, cjwatson and myself in #ubuntu-release
[15:12] <seb128> ok
[15:12] <skaet> we'll start of the release tracking pad, and the technical overview for beta1 later today.
[15:13] <skaet> I'll post in #ubuntu-release when they're ready for input.
[15:13] <skaet> seb128,  did you see comments on llvmpipe in edubuntu’s report on implications of llvmpipe on LSTP,  any chance we can get it landing for beta1?
[15:14] <seb128> let me look
[15:14] <ScottK> o/
[15:15] <seb128> I saw that jdstrand and others said that the recent updates make things usuable on vms
[15:15] <seb128> ok, read that
[15:16] <seb128> yeah, there is  plan to degrade effects to improve performance
[15:16] <seb128> is there a bug open about the "doesn't work on 16 bits"?
[15:16] <skaet> stgraber, ^ ?
[15:16] <stgraber> I didn't file one, I'll check if there's one and if not, I'll file one
[15:16] <seb128> I will make sure those are tracked, but that will not be for beta1 at this point
[15:16] <seb128> stgraber, thanks
[15:16] <stgraber> seb128: either way, I'll give you the bug number
[15:17] <seb128> re "so something needs to happen there..." ... well many topic are in that situation
[15:17] <skaet> thanks stgraber, seb128
[15:17] <skaet> ..
[15:17] <seb128> we will need to make (hard) calls
[15:17] <seb128> and those calls might be to tell those people to use the LTS
[15:17] <seb128> ..
[15:18] <skaet> seb128, ack.
[15:18] <skaet> slangasek, did you have any update on the bug that gema highlighted earlier?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1044299
[15:19] <slangasek> skaet: no, haven't seen this bug until now
[15:19] <slangasek> it doesn't appear that anyone has set the 'rls-q-incoming' tag on it, btw
[15:20] <gema> slangasek: I will update it
[15:20] <slangasek> well, no need now... I'll just move it straight to our 'accepted' queue ;)
[15:20] <gema> slangasek: ack, sorry
[15:20] <slangasek> anyway, I'll make sure xnox is working on it
[15:20] <slangasek> has anyone else reproduced this bug?
[15:21] <gema> jibel reported it to me, I will ask him
[15:21] <slangasek> (I'm wondering whether it's genuinely critical, or if it's a corner case)
[15:21] <skaet> yeah,  just a reminder to everyone - please put 'rls-q-incoming' tag on any bug you think is going to be a  problem for the release.
[15:22] <jibel> slangasek, I did, install a desktop image and keep the defaults, it crashes on partman
[15:22] <slangasek> ah
[15:22] <slangasek> then it's definitely xnox's ;)
[15:22] <slangasek> we'll get it sorted
[15:22] <gema> slangasek: thanks!
[15:22] <skaet> thanks slangasek, gema, jibel.
[15:23] <skaet> ..?
[15:23] <gema> ..
[15:23] <skaet> go ScottK
[15:23] <ScottK> As Riddell  mentioned, he's sick, so no input email from Kubuntu this week.  KDE telepathy 0.5 landed kind of hard this week, but we should have it sorted and all images buildable later today.  KDE SC 4.9.1 is released next Wednesday, so we'll anticipate uploading that shortly after Beta 1.
[15:23] <ScottK> ..
[15:23] <xnox> slangasek: fix committed locally, now testing.
[15:23] <skaet> ScottK,  thanks for the update
[15:24] <slangasek> xnox: thanks :)
[15:24] <skaet> ..
[15:24]  * skaet looks for any other hands before going on to other questions...
[15:25] <skaet> gema,  any concerns about desktop arm testing for next week?
[15:25] <gema> skaet: we haven't done any arm testing that I am aware of, hggdh will do on monday
[15:25] <gema> skaet: ogra_ may have something to report, though
[15:25] <skaet> gema, ok, so he and plars are contacts.
[15:25] <seb128> (not that you could test arm, unity didn't land)
[15:25] <gema> skaet: yes, and psivaa
[15:26] <gema> skaet: we are going to have more people than ever before testing, please bear with us while we adjust
[15:26] <skaet> seb128,  was assuming it was going to land today, and based on ogra_'s comments in his report.
[15:26] <gema> skaet: I will be on holidays so if you need a point of contact use either psivaa or plars , given timezones
[15:26] <seb128> skaet, yeah, that's the plan, I was replying to the "<gema> skaet: we haven't done any arm testing"
[15:27] <seb128> skaet, monday sounds good
[15:27] <gema> seb128: ack
[15:27] <skaet> gema, seb128 thanks.
[15:27] <skaet> ..
[15:28] <skaet> slangasek, do you know if the Google OnAir session on how to use your panda board has been scheduled?
[15:28] <slangasek> it has not
[15:29] <skaet> any chance we can get it for early next week?
[15:29] <seb128> o/
[15:29] <slangasek> skaet: with ogra out today and me out for the US holiday on Monday, probably not
[15:29] <slangasek> I'm looking at Thursday
[15:29] <slangasek> (yeah, it's beta day... that means everything should be calm and people have time to watch videos, right? ;)
[15:30] <skaet> heh,  I was thinking of getting more testers ramped up earlier actually ;)
[15:30] <xnox> slangasek: dual screen: one for videos the other one for image testing ;-)
[15:30] <slangasek> skaet: unlikely, sorry
[15:34]  * skaet_ wonders if seb128 saw the go comment, and responded while she got disconnected.
[15:34] <seb128> skaet_, no I didn't
 skaet: unlikely, sorry
[15:35] <seb128>  skaet a quitté (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[15:35] <seb128>
[15:35] <seb128> that all I saw
[15:35] <skaet_> thanks.
[15:35] <seb128> I had quick q
[15:35] <skaet_> go seb128
[15:35] <seb128> slangasek, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, before beta1?
[15:35] <slangasek> seb128: trying to get the uploads done today
[15:35] <seb128> \o/
[15:35] <seb128> slangasek, thanks
[15:35] <seb128> ..
[15:35] <slangasek> whether the release team want to accept it is another matter :)
[15:36] <skaet_> :)
[15:37]  * skaet_ figures its likely, but depends on what it actually end up being.
[15:37] <skaet_> ..
[15:37] <skaet_> ?
[15:38] <skaet_> knome,   Ubuntu studio, Xubuntu, Lubuntu - waiting for indicator-application-gtk2 to be updated to fix build failures.  what is plan here,  will land before monday?  dependencies on other teams to make it?
[15:38] <skaet_> or astraljava^ or ...?
[15:39] <seb128> so about that it's part of those binaries that stopped being built from source by Ubuntu
[15:39] <seb128> so it's one of those "need to bring back and old source as -gtk2 to universe"
[15:39] <slangasek> why is that preferable over re-enabling the binary build in the existing source?  Is it because the code has been dropped?
[15:40] <seb128> gtk2 support has been dropped
[15:40] <slangasek> ok
[15:40] <seb128> they said they would get ride of all their ton of ifdefs and legacy code after the LTS
[15:40] <slangasek> so definitely needs to be a separate source package, which someone who needs it can resurrect from the archive without too much difficulty
[15:40] <seb128> right
[15:41] <seb128> just take the precise version, drop the gtk3 binary and put it under a different source name
[15:41] <Laney> in the meantime all affected flavours have dropped it from their seeds
[15:41] <seb128> the protocol didn't change
[15:41] <seb128> ..
[15:41] <slangasek> Laney: they've preferred this over picking up the old code branch?
[15:41] <skaet_> knome, astraljava, scott-work, gilir ^ who is taking point on getting this done.  wasn't clear from status emails.
[15:42] <gilir> indicator-applications is the easiest one, as it's not using any gtk3 specific code
[15:42] <Laney> slangasek: no, it's just an interim solution
[15:42] <slangasek> ok
[15:42] <Laney> someone (sorry, I forgot who) told me they were working on bringing it back
[15:42] <gilir> skaet_, xubuntu dev is working on indicator-application re-upload
[15:43] <gilir> do we need FFe for this ?
[15:43] <gilir> just to know what paperwork we need to bring this back
[15:43] <slangasek> I wouldn't think so
[15:43] <gilir> ..
[15:43] <skaet_> gilir,  having a bug for tracking this though,  would be good.
[15:44] <skaet_> (not a FFe, but rather making sure we all know who's working on it, etc.)
[15:44] <skaet_> ..
[15:44]  * skaet_ looks around to see if other questions?
[15:45] <scott-work> none from me
[15:47] <Daviey> can we go home?
[15:47] <skaet_> yup.  :)
[15:47] <skaet_> #endmeeting
[15:47] <popey> \o/
[15:47] <popey> thanks
[15:47] <xnox> thanks all.
[15:47] <balloons> lol
[15:47] <Laney> THE BOT DISAGREES
[15:47] <skaet_> Thanks popey, brendan, scott-work, smartboyhw, seb128, gilir, arosales, slangasek, gilir, Laney, xnox, jibel, gema, ScottK.
[15:47] <scott-work> bye
[15:47] <slangasek> thanks all
[15:47] <skaet> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended Fri Aug 31 15:47:51 2012 UTC.
[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-31-15.00.moin.txt
[15:47] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-31-15.00.html
[15:48] <balloons> slangasek, did we decide for sure to drop the alt cd?
[15:48] <arosales> Thanks skaet for chairing
[15:48] <seb128> skaet, thanks
[15:48] <skaet> balloons,  yes, per discussion in #ubuntu-release channel
[15:48] <skaet> yesterday was asked about.
[15:48] <balloons> I figured as much, I just hadn't seen a mailing announcing it as such
[15:48] <skaet> slangasek,  can you send a clarifying email out to close off the thread?
[15:49] <balloons> perfect, ty :-)
[15:49] <slangasek> skaet: yeah, can do
[15:50] <slangasek> balloons: btw, you said "negative feedback" - which are you referring to?
[15:50] <skaet> thanks slanagasek
[15:50] <balloons> slangasek, let's move to #ubuntu-release


[08:03] <Laney> hey
[08:04] <Laney> happy friday!
[08:05]  * ogra_ checks his watch ...
[08:05] <ogra_> oh already !
[08:05] <ogra_> Laney, to you too :)
[08:05] <Laney> like clockwork :P
[08:06] <ogra_> and so reliable :)
[08:06] <didrocks> happy Friday Laney :)
[08:07] <Laney> and to you didrocks
[08:07] <Laney> not that there's a relaxing weekend ahead :P
[08:12] <didrocks> indeed :)
[08:22] <sil2100> Happy Friday everyone!
[08:22] <sil2100> om26er: ping
[08:22] <om26er> sil2100, pong
[08:22] <sil2100> veebers: ping
[08:22] <sil2100> om26er: hi! Do you know about autopilot autopilot tests? ;)
[08:22] <om26er> sil2100, no, not really.
[08:23]  * om26er is on vacation - *hides*
[08:23] <sil2100> ;)
[09:42] <Sweetshark> ricotz: http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/libreoffice-4-0-6-released-and-already-available-for-ubuntu-13-04/1140/5 <- people are craving for new backports ;)
[09:52] <ricotz> Sweetshark, i can just copy the 4.1.2 builds from my ppa, but this will start the missing languages discussion again :\
[09:54] <ricotz> Sweetshark, do you have a 4.1.3~rc2 package already?
[09:55] <Sweetshark> ricotz: just copy them ;)
[09:56] <Sweetshark> ricotz: I plan to have a 4.1.3~rc2 today. Still missing two or three extra patches ...
[09:59] <ricotz> Sweetshark, copied them
[10:00] <ricotz> Sweetshark, nice, let me know when you uploaded them ;)
[10:05] <Sweetshark> ricotz: awesome, thanks!
[10:10] <ricotz> Sweetsha1k, yw
[14:28] <seb128> hey desktopers, happy friday:
[14:28] <seb128> !
[14:32] <Laney> hey seb128
[14:32] <Laney> happy friday to you
[14:32] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[14:32] <Laney> does it count if you have to get up at <<8am on the next saturday and travel all day?
[14:32] <Laney> can't complain!
[14:33] <Laney> seen any DDs lately?
[14:35] <seb128> waking up early on saturday sucks indeed
[14:35] <seb128> lol, no, no DD yesterday
[17:02]  * didrocks waves good evening and good night
[17:39] <tedg> Does someone have time to upload a vala-0.22 with the gio-vapi-fix.patch from vala-0.20 for bug 1244522 ?
[17:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1244522 in vala-0.22 (Ubuntu) "vala-0.22 needs patches from vala-0.20" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1244522
[18:02] <kenvandine> tedg, i can take a look
[20:34] <broder> hmm. so after upgrading to saucy, the HUD no longer includes indicator menu items. is that expected?
[20:54] <Laney> tedg: ^
[21:11] <tedg> broder, yes
[21:16] <Sweetshark> tedg: btw there are conflicting comments on bug 1045353 -- but it seems its fixed for most.
[21:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1045353 in hud (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice commands are not displayed in the HUD" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045353
[21:16] <Sweetshark> tedg: (in saucy)
[21:22] <tedg> Sweetshark, Cool, I think some of the confusion is probably the inactive items.  That's fixed as well, not sure if it's in distro yet.


[10:17] <dkessel> pitti: just curious: are the autopkgtests from http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml running on armhf hardware, or is ARM hardware emulated using qemu or something?
[10:18] <pitti> dkessel: it's real armhf hardware (arm7)
[10:19] <dkessel> pitti: a heap of raspberries? :)
[10:22] <pitti> dkessel: no, something more advanced, a Calxeda arm server
[10:26] <dkessel> ok :) i only noticed that it is struggling to empty its test queue, and was wondering :) but i guess it's just easier to get computing power for the other architectures...
[10:49] <pitti> dkessel: right, and there's some tests which make the lxc containers fall over, which is why a lot of them die
[10:49] <pitti> that's on my list
[15:29] <balloons> flocculant, reviewing the changes for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website/+bug/1366579
[15:30] <balloons> flocculant, we can't really make the bug heat changes you asked for without doing sql changes, which I've avoided because we have legacy data in there, and it's more invovled
[15:30] <balloons> however, the sorting stuff made it in
[15:31] <balloons> what do you think?
[17:13] <flocculant> balloons: yea - understood - but I see no way to sort that list - you sure it made it in?
[17:21] <flocculant> still shows ood wily and trusty stuff
[19:01] <balloons> flocculant, it's not merged yet
[19:01] <balloons> i'm reviewing the mp :p
[19:01] <balloons> just wanted your 2 cents
[19:01] <flocculant> balloons: okey doke - you got those and confusion :p
[19:02] <flocculant> if heat = a real pita then not worried :)
[19:03] <balloons> flocculant, yea, it kind of turned out that way
[19:03] <balloons> so not worth imho. glad you agree
[19:04] <flocculant> :)
[19:04] <flocculant> I ended up at work today - not got around to those bugs/new bugs yet
[19:10] <balloons> no worries.
[19:47] <flocculant> balloons: bug 1523260
[19:48] <balloons> yes?
[19:48] <balloons> I guess we can close it. I'm not sure offhand why prod is acting the way it is
[19:48] <flocculant> so what's going on with that? I look at the tracker and it seems to be top however happen to have done something?
[19:48] <balloons> you can go to the proper URL and it works
[19:48] <flocculant> trusty daily appears to be the top 178 :p
[19:48] <balloons> I'll ask them to restart things on the next deploy (which we never do)
[19:48] <balloons> ohh that's always been that way
[19:49] <flocculant> aah ok
[19:49] <flocculant> I'll close that one now then
[20:02] <flocculant> balloons: can you won't fix bug 1366579
[20:03] <flocculant> I can't, invalid atm now
[20:03] <balloons> flocculant, I was going to do them, minus the bug heat
[20:03] <balloons> all the sorting and filtering is happening
[20:03] <balloons> and under review atm
[20:03] <flocculant> oh hang on
[20:03] <flocculant> wrong bug :p
[20:04] <flocculant> oh no - right bug, but includes stuff from elsewhere
[20:04] <flocculant> just want it off the list
[20:06] <flocculant> bug 1194770 was one we couldn't do iirc ?
[20:14] <flocculant> added the two new issues we discussed now bug 1531978 and bug 1531980 will leave anymore till we've got all updates landed
[20:15] <flocculant> balloons: ^^
[20:25]  * balloons is trying to fix his boken mess
[20:25] <balloons> *broke
[20:25] <balloons> *broken
[20:25] <balloons> and yes, hello username was stuck. nothing we can do
[20:30]  * flocculant will be back tomorrow
[20:30] <flocculant> have fun fixing brokeness :)
[20:31] <balloons> cheers flocculant


[00:27] <saqman2060> Hello guys
[00:28] <saqman2060> Beginning testing of ubuntu studio 12.04.1
[00:28] <saqman2060> What should we be testing?
[00:46] <saqman2060> Installing ubuntustudio now
[02:22] <saqman2060> hello murfman
[11:09] <smartboyhw> TheWonderingGuru: You said you have a bootloader problem?
[11:09] <rigo> hi i set up the xrdp everything... almost everything looks fine. if i connect via mstsc.exe i only see the gray bgnd and the big black X cursor. (pls dont blame me :))
[11:09] <TheWonderingGuru> Yes, for some reason the bootloader enters a rescue mode now.
[11:09] <smartboyhw> Hmm, did you uninstall it or move the partition somewhere?
[11:10] <TheWonderingGuru> I installed linux mint debian on a seperate external usb drive and then when I rebooted my computer to go into my main distro "ubuntu studio" it acts like the bootloader is not there and enters the rescue mode.
[11:10] <smartboyhw> Try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows and use the graphical instructions.
[11:14] <TheWonderingGuru> Hmm. Would this work if I just used the boot repair in ubuntu studio without loading it up onto a cd?
[11:14] <TheWonderingGuru> Im fresh out of dvd's large enough to accomodate ubuntu studio.
[11:14] <smartboyhw> TheWonderingGuru: Try to use a CD in Ubuntu desktop
[11:15] <smartboyhw> maybe use the terminal way in the link
[11:15] <TheWonderingGuru> Would this work? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[11:15] <smartboyhw> Well, of course:)
[11:18] <TheWonderingGuru> Do you think it is necessary to back up my entire hard drive before attempting this?
[11:18] <smartboyhw> TheWonderingGuru: If you're willing to, it's better.:)
[11:18] <TheWonderingGuru> I'll do that then...
[11:18] <TheWonderingGuru> Too much important stuff on this computer. I would cry if I lost it.
[11:18] <TheWonderingGuru> lol
[11:19] <smartboyhw> TheWonderingGuru: :)
[11:20] <TheWonderingGuru> Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it. Much better then the wise asses in the other room who kept wanting to put me down, because they thought I was in the wrong room.
[11:21] <smartboyhw> TheWonderingGuru: Sort of, but then a GRUB bootloader issue is a Ubuntu problem over all:)
[11:22] <TheWonderingGuru> Im going to start backing up now. Take care, stay amazing, and have a wonderful day :)
[12:49] <ubuntu-studio_> hi
[12:49] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: What are your problems again?
[12:49] <ubuntu-studio_> ok
[12:49] <ubuntu-studio_> :)
[12:49] <ubuntu-studio_> My ubuntu doesn't start
[12:50] <ubuntu-studio_> I can see just same black and white squers
[12:50] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio: You mean your Ubuntu Studio won't start, or is it the normal Ubuntu Desktop?
[12:50] <ubuntu-studio_> I have the data in the home
[12:50] <ubuntu-studio_> cataloge
[12:50] <ubuntu-studio_> so, In my opinion I  must reinstal ubuntu
[12:50] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: Are you trying to boot into Ubuntu Studio?
[12:51] <ubuntu-studio_> I dont know how
[12:51] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: Please answer my question first
[12:51] <ubuntu-studio_> I can get live sessions
[12:51] <ubuntu-studio_> yest
[12:51] <ubuntu-studio_> yes
[12:51] <smartboyhw> OK, so you can't install, is that right?
[12:51] <smartboyhw> But you can use live session
[12:52] <smartboyhw> Try to launch the installer in the live session. There should be a shortcut there in the desktop
[12:52] <ubuntu-studio_> I can install new one, without any problems, but Iam not shure if it will cancel my files jn the home directiory
[12:53] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: What do you mean?
[12:53] <smartboyhw> Do you have another Ubuntu distro on your computer?
[12:53] <ubuntu-studio_> yest the old one, I can  not start it
[12:53] <smartboyhw> So, you mean you can't even start the old distro, right?
[12:53] <ubuntu-studio_> On hard disc there are my files
[12:54] <smartboyhw> Actually, you can dual-boot
[12:54] <ubuntu-studio_> no
[12:54] <ubuntu-studio_> just one
[12:54] <ubuntu-studio_> there is one distro
[12:54] <ubuntu-studio_> on hard disk
[12:55] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: I mean that you can have two distros at once
[12:55] <ubuntu-studio_> No, I have just one distro on one hard disc
[12:55] <ubuntu-studio_> that's it
[12:56] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: So you want Ubuntu Studio to cover Ubuntu completely?
[12:56] <ubuntu-studio_> yes
[12:56] <ubuntu-studio_> but exept home folder
[12:56] <smartboyhw> Hmm, your files will be lost then, even the home foler
[12:56] <smartboyhw> *folder
[12:56] <smartboyhw> Please back it up:)
[12:57] <ubuntu-studio_> :) yes, but I have home folder on the separate partition
[12:58] <ubuntu-studio_> so It is possible keep it
[12:58] <smartboyhw> Er, then I don't think so
[12:58] <smartboyhw> You can keep it
[12:58] <ubuntu-studio_> but how do that?
[12:59] <smartboyhw> Well, since that when installing Ubuntu Studio it will only cover the partition that Ubuntu is installed, it won't affect the partition that has your home folder
[12:59] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: Launch the installer in your live session
[13:00] <ubuntu-studio_> ok I'm doing
[13:00] <smartboyhw> Good, then install
[13:00] <ubuntu-studio_> I am choosing the language
[13:00] <smartboyhw> Uh huh, good
[13:01] <ubuntu-studio_> I am going....
[13:01] <ubuntu-studio_> ok a have a choice
[13:01] <smartboyhw> Ah ha, is that on where you install Ubuntu?
[13:02] <ubuntu-studio_> instal second ubuntu.. remove ubuntu, and, use another solutio
[13:02] <ubuntu-studio_> which is good for me? 3?
[13:02] <smartboyhw> But 3 would be difficult
[13:03] <smartboyhw> I think use 2.
[13:03] <smartboyhw> Don't worry, I think the home files won;t disappear
[13:03] <ubuntu-studio_> are you shure?
[13:03] <ubuntu-studio_> :)
[13:03] <smartboyhw> I'm thinking
[13:03] <ubuntu-studio_> could you ask some one?
[13:04] <ubuntu-studio_> its very difficult write in english for me.
[13:04] <smartboyhw> Well, wait for a moment
[13:04] <ubuntu-studio_> :) you mean you are thinking = you are shure? it is good?
[13:05] <ubuntu-studio_> thanks
[13:05] <smartboyhw> Thinking means I'm trying to be sure, wait
[13:06] <ubuntu-studio_> :) ok I am waiting
[13:06] <smartboyhw> I'm sure
[13:07] <smartboyhw> It would not affect your home folder
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Since it is in another partition
[13:07] <smartboyhw> use 2.
[13:07] <ubuntu-studio_> ok, I can see if I was right
[13:07] <smartboyhw> I mean use the second option
[13:08] <ubuntu-studio_> ok thank you very much..
[13:09] <smartboyhw> No problem
[13:10] <ubuntu-studio_> but... I can see there are just two partition, so, I was wrong
[13:10] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio: Why?
[13:10] <ubuntu-studio_> I can see the partition
[13:10] <ubuntu-studio_> there are two,
[13:11] <smartboyhw> When I do a clean one I only got one!
[13:11] <ubuntu-studio_> so home is not on separeta one
[13:11] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: What?
[13:11] <ubuntu-studio_> ok, I will make a back up
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio_> thanks so much,
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio_> bye
[13:12] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: It is a good practice to make a backup
[13:12] <ubuntu-studio_> I know
[19:42] <rejven> Hello, anyone here using darktable ?
[20:43] <UberMusik> hi, i'm just about to configure libgig on UbuntuStudio, and I've reached the part of the install instructions where i open /debian/rules, and prefix the ./configure line … how do i determine what information i should put there? this is the first time i've tried to recompile anything, FWIW
[21:05] <holstein> UberMusik: yeah, and unfortunately, it'll dependon the application
[21:05] <holstein> UberMusik: i can offer one suggestion, try using checkinstall
[21:05] <holstein> !checkinstall | UberMusik
[21:05] <holstein> can make it *much* easier to uninstall later, from any package manager
[21:07] <holstein> looks like its in the repos anyways http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/libgig
[21:09] <holstein> i would probably look at the KXstudio ppas to see if falk is supplying the latest versions there
[21:17] <UberMusik> holstein and ubottu: thanks .. i will look into this further .. cheers
[21:17] <holstein> ubottu is just a bot.. but i wish you luck
[21:18] <Unit193> ubottu is a bot
[21:18] <holstein> UberMusik: also, you might find help in #opensourcemusicians
[23:00] <sambagirl> where is the system startup?
[23:02] <GridCube> what do you mean by system startup?
[23:02] <sambagirl> yes
[23:02] <GridCube> yes?
[23:02] <sambagirl> well where you select tasks to start up
[23:03] <sambagirl> you know, where you select what you want to start and what you dont want to start
[23:04] <GridCube> you mean the Session and Startup, autorun of aplication tab in the Configuration menu?
[23:04] <sambagirl> i suppose yes
[23:15] <sambagirl> what i am doing is installing Mate desktop so lets see what that produces
[23:24] <GridCube> :) good luck, but remember maté is not a supported wm on the ubuntu'sverse, not that you wont recieve any more support or anything, but be warned
[23:34] <sambagirl> i'm just messing about basically


[02:47] <comptroller> I am having a trouble with Teeworlds.  Whenever I open the game it takes up both of my monitors (which are of different resolutions) and I can't get it confined just to my primary (higher resolution monitor).  I also can't quit and need to restart to exit. I just installed Ubuntu 13.10 and am using  open source drivers. What should I do?
[02:53] <bazhang> file a bug comptroller
[02:53] <bazhang> !bugs | comptroller
[09:30] <mrz2619> which kernel version is in saucy?
[09:32] <k1l_> 3.11
[09:34] <mrz2619> k1l_: thanks. is there already a bootable iso i can try out? i am experiencing kernel panic with my own kernel 3.10 build and i want to know if it is a general regression or just my build.
[09:35] <k1l_> mrz2619: there are beta isos and daylies available
[09:35] <mrz2619> k1l_: the panic with kernel 3.10 goes away if i disable usb 3.0 in bios (thinkpad helix). but disabling usb 3.0 also seem to make the wacom pen device vanish sometimes.
[09:36] <mrz2619> k1l_: what's the download url?
[09:36] <k1l_> !download
[09:37] <mrz2619> thx
[10:10] <Ian_Corne> !torrents
[11:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:38] <dariusc93_> I have a question. Do anyone have issues with pulseaudio and alsa after installing libpulse0:i386 on ubuntu 13.10? I get a dummy output in the sound settings even after reinstalling alsa and pulseaudio, reloading modules. It only get fixed by me reinstalling ubuntu
[12:38] <BluesKaj> dariusc93_, which audio chip , top left in alsamixer
[12:39] <dariusc93_> I use pulseaudio specifically, but let me a check and ill get the info
[12:39] <BluesKaj> libpulse0:i386 in 13.10 doesn'r seem to exist in muon at least, dariusc93_
[12:40] <BluesKaj> alsamixer in the terminal
[12:40] <dariusc93_> it does
[12:40] <dariusc93_> ATI R6xx HDMI
[12:41] <BluesKaj> chip ?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> dariusc93_, cat /proc/asound/modules , what's the output ?
[12:43] <dariusc93_> 0 snd_hda_intel 1 snd_usb_audio 2 snd_hda_intel
[12:43] <dariusc93_> im on 13.04 atm but i can switch back to 13.10 if you wish for me too
[12:44] <BluesKaj> dariusc93_, well if the drivers aren't loading , then yes
[12:44] <dariusc93_> Okay, ill be switching in a few
[13:51] <Beast> hi
[13:53] <Beast>  Hi. Has anyone had issues system freezes while playing .flv in fullscreen? Had that last night on saucy and prior to upgrading. Might this be due to bad flash support for Firefox?
[13:53] <sdn3rd> i haven't personally but anything flash related wouldn't shock me
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Beast, which player ?
[13:59] <Beast> just an online player
[14:00] <BluesKaj> Beast, that's to be expected on websites with flash these days
[14:02] <Beast> because of the lacking adobe support for linux?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> adobe isn't upgrading the linux player or plugin for some reason
[14:03] <BluesKaj> guess they expect HTML5 to fill the linux void soon
[14:04] <Beast> so if I wanted to avoid this issue I might best use chrome/ium?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> youtube has a bug that mutes the audio as soon as the play button is chosen , just found out about it yesterday
[14:04] <Beast> me too
[14:06] <BluesKaj> so we can expect annoyances like that until the new HTML5 protocol is adopted , and then we'll be dealing with another group of bugs :)
[14:07] <Beast> I hope html dominates soon with full Libre support
[14:07] <Beast> shumway doesn't seem to cut it yet
[14:08] <Beast> it may be too littl too late
[14:10] <BluesKaj> haven't tried shumway yet , dunno if I'll bother
[14:13] <sdn3rd> not sure that flash will go away any time soon
[14:13] <sdn3rd> one can hope
[14:26] <dariusc93> okay. I reinstalled ubuntu 13.10 and install libpulse0:i386 and after i did, my audio would stay on for about 2min then everything goes silent
[14:26] <dariusc93> unless i restart
[14:27] <dariusc93> and it jut a repeat. if i uninstall that driver everything works but things would start acting up. I mainly use pulseaudio for skype since alsa doesnt play nice
[14:27] <BluesKaj> dariusc93, why are you installing libpulse0:i386 ?
[14:28] <dariusc93> for skype
[14:28] <dariusc93> since skype requires 32bit drivers
[14:28] <dariusc93> like i said, alsa doesnt play nice which is why i use pulseaudio.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> alsa and pulse work together , pulse is a a soundserver that runs ontop of alsa
[14:29] <dariusc93> i know, but skype requires the 32bit version of libpulse0 for me to use pulseaudio
[14:29] <dariusc93> with skype that is
[14:29] <BluesKaj> I have skype on 13.10 , but I have no need for that libpulse0:i386
[14:30] <dariusc93> does pulseaudio work for you? and is your machine on 64bit?
[14:30] <TJ-> BluesKaj: It might be auto-installed as part of the multilib packages
[14:31] <BluesKaj> dariusc93, yes 64 bit
[14:31] <BluesKaj> dariusc93_  which sound card do you want as default,  the intel or the USB device ?
[14:32] <dariusc93> usb
[14:33] <BluesKaj> ok , which mfgr / maker / brand ?
[14:33] <dariusc93> skullcandy if that helps any
[14:34] <BluesKaj> headphones ?
[14:34] <dariusc93> yep
[14:35] <BluesKaj> run lsusb , with the phones plugged in , dariusc93 , to get more info
[14:36] <dariusc93> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/VBTXJtJa
[14:36] <dariusc93> the root hub is the usb device. 13.10 for some reasons doesnt show the real name like 13.0
[14:36] <dariusc93> 13.04 does
[14:38] <BluesKaj> hmm, wireless 'phones ?
[14:38] <dariusc93> yes
[14:39] <TJ-> dariusc93: report that as a bug against the package "usbutils" please
[14:44] <BluesKaj> dariusc93, the only method I can think of is to install pavucontrol and choose the usb device outputs there when you want to use the 'phones instead of the connected speakers (if any)
[14:44] <dariusc93> BluesKaj: i have that installed
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ok , the you know what to do
[14:45] <BluesKaj> then
[14:54] <dariusc93> BluesKaj: but even then pulseaudio doesnt show up in skype without libpulse0
[14:55] <BluesKaj> dariusc93, do you have multiarch installed ?
[14:55] <dariusc93> 12.04?
[14:55] <dariusc93> if thats the one then ye
[14:55] <dariusc93> yes
[14:57] <BluesKaj> multiarch-support
[15:00] <dariusc93> BluesKaj: ?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> dunno, you have a special situation there , you'll have to play around with it ...dunno if a linux driver is available
[15:03] <dariusc93> i think its just libpulse0 but if i remove that pulseaudio wont show up in skype settings
[15:49] <Beast> BluesKaj: I just watched an hour's worth of .flv with the caffeine "applet" and no system freeze
[17:38] <lionrouge> hi
[17:38] <lionrouge> tell me please is beta2 stable enough for desktop users?
[17:42] <TiCPU> I'm currently experiencing problems in ubuntu 13.10 after doing an apt-get upgrade and rebooting, anything that uses alpha blending is black, window frames, terminal, except the unity menu which works perfectly fine, is that a known issue?
[17:42] <TiCPU> it is really hard to work with
[17:42] <k1l> lionrouge: they still get some updates and that can still cause some trouble. if you need to think about stability you should stay with final releases
[17:42] <lionrouge> k1l, thanks
[19:08] <Rallias> For dm cache, how would I accomplish using write-around instead of write-back?
[19:11] <Rallias> Never mind, I guess I'll go with writethrough.
[19:36] <fak3r> did an apt-get upgrade this morning, now secondary monitor has a 'flicker' on it when you click anywhere. Know issue? Ideas to fix? Tia
[19:55] <palsec> hello. i am looking for "appearances" in "system settings" without success. any tips, please?
[19:56] <k1l> in german its "darstellung" and its working here
[19:58] <palsec> hmmm, the "displays" panel contains info about the resolution but nothing else
[19:59] <k1l> its not in the hardware section. its in the personal section
[20:00] <k1l> palsec: which ubuntu are you talking about exactly?
[20:00] <palsec> 13.10 installed today
[20:00] <palsec> the gnome flavour
[20:01] <k1l> ah gnome one. dont know how they shuffle their menues
[20:02] <palsec> thanks for trying
[20:06] <trism> palsec: out of curiosity, do you see it if you start in a terminal with: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=Unity gnome-control-center;
[20:12] <palsec> nope, and 1 or 2 are missing from the personal section
[20:13] <palsec> it comlains about "gtktable does not have the property to" and lots of stuff
[20:14] <trism> palsec: are you using the gnome ppa? in any case you might ask in #ubuntu-gnome
[20:15] <palsec> oh, ok. will do so, thanks
[20:21] <trism> palsec: oh I noticed that if I use XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME instead (I'm in unity) I do have it, but it is called Background instead of Appearance (and it has quite a different gui)
[20:22] <palsec> in the background area there is only background related stuff nothing about appearances
[20:24] <trism> palsec: yeah I don't see anything for changing the theme, but that may be by design (you can use gnome-tweak-tool to change them)...as it is, the themes in Appearance in unity are hardcoded to only a few different ones
[20:25] <palsec> oh i see
[20:25] <palsec> gnome-tweak-tool?
[20:27] <trism> !info gnome-tweak-tool | palsec
[20:27] <palsec> thanks
[20:51] <johnjohn101> 10 more days!! woo hoo


[07:04] <Ahmuck> hi.  i'd like to stack panels.  is there a way to do this?
[08:37] <ibrahimovic> hii
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[08:37] <ibrahimovic> 3-2
[08:37] <ibrahimovic> psg 3 - 2 fcb
[08:37] <ibrahimovic> jajajaja
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[08:37] <ibrahimovic> me cago en vuestra puta madre
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[08:39] <ibrahimovic> maricones
[17:39] <Extreminador> hi guys
[17:39] <Extreminador> have lubunto version 13 (i think) installed
[17:39] <zy3pD> do you have a question?
[17:39] <Extreminador> but i am not being able to connect to my network
[17:40] <zy3pD> lan/wlan?
[17:40] <Extreminador> wlan
[17:40] <zy3pD> lubuntu 14.04 is the newest, maybe try this
[17:40] <Extreminador> i put he pass and i check dhcp(that is automatic) and dns (auto as well)
[17:41] <wxl> you can check what release you have with `lsb_release -a`
[17:41] <Extreminador> ok wait a sec
[17:42] <wxl> oh better yet i just discovered `ubuntu-support-status` which works on a package level
[17:42] <Extreminador> humm my faher was saying tha wsa lubunto but it says linaro 13.04
[17:42] <Glorfindel> how do I write an iso to a usb device?
[17:43] <wxl> can't help you with linaro :)
[17:43] <wxl> there is a #linaro though
[17:43] <Extreminador> thats wht i thought
[17:43] <Extreminador> thanks
[17:43] <wxl> Glorfindel: i'd suggest unetbootin (or dd if you know what you're doing)
[17:43] <ol_dude67> went to pandora, told me i needed flash. tried to install on there page and it gave me an error. fresh install. so googled how to install flash. entered a apt-get command to load flashpluggin. still doesnt work. any suggestions where to go from there?
[17:43] <ol_dude67> thank you.
[17:43] <Glorfindel> ok thanks
[17:44] <wxl> ol_dude67: flash is pretty much dead unfortunately.
[17:44] <ol_dude67> thank god
[17:44] <ol_dude67> it sux
[17:46] <wxl> there is gnash and lightspark ol_dude67
[17:46] <wxl> good luck :/
[17:46] <wxl> even youtube does html5 now
[17:46] <ol_dude67> wxl thanks ill see what i can do.
[17:46] <wxl> ol_dude67: chrome uses its own flash so you may want to look into that
[17:47] <wxl> ol_dude67: you can get it in chromium but it requires so much hacking you might as well just install chrome and be up to date (which chromium rarely is)
[17:47] <wxl> ol_dude67: however it appears flashplugin-installer is what you want
[17:47] <wxl> ol_dude67: it's in multiverse
[17:48] <ol_dude67> so just use chrome? no problem any suggestions on the easiest way to aquire this?
[17:48] <wxl> ol_dude67: go to the website and follow the instructions. it will add repos and everything. nice and enat.
[17:48] <wxl> neat.
[17:48] <ol_dude67> thank you
[17:49] <Glorfindel> wxl: how can I tell which drive is which on unetbootin?
[17:49] <Glorfindel> there is only one listed but I have two plugged in, one of which has the iso and various important stuff
[17:49] <wxl> Glorfindel: do you have one of them mounted
[17:50] <Glorfindel> they are both mounted
[17:50] <wxl> unmount the usb
[17:51] <Glorfindel> but it has the iso on it. Does that matter?
[17:51] <wxl> unmount the one that doesn't have the iso on it
[17:51] <wxl> you'll have much difficulty writing an iso on a drive to that same drive
[17:51] <wxl> much difficulty == won't work
[17:52] <Glorfindel> ok, so it is impossible to do, but will it format it?
[17:52]  * wxl facepalms
[17:52] <wxl> put the iso on one drive and then use another drive to write it to
[17:52] <wxl> that's how it works
[17:54] <Glorfindel> so it will not list the drive that has the iso on it, correct?
[17:54] <wxl> right. program doesn't work that way
[17:54] <Glorfindel> ok, thanks
[18:03] <menace> Hi, ist der Fehler bekannt, dass wenn man einen Rechner mit lubuntu mehrere Tage lang laufen lässt (und applikationen laufen die .cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log  voll läuft?
[18:03] <wxl> !de | menace
[18:03] <menace> wups sorry
[18:03] <menace> is there any known bug, which causes do fill the diskspace up with .cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log?
[18:04] <menace> this file ist 600g big..
[18:04] <wxl> menace: none that i'm aware of. i'd suggest you file one.
[18:04] <menace> do you have the bugtracker url?
[18:06] <menace> nevermind, found it
[18:06] <wxl> menace: i would suggest using the tools your system has
[18:06] <wxl> !bugs | menace
[18:07] <menace> yeah, already found it.. i'm surprised i created enough space so the ubuntu-bug program could send it to launchpad
[18:11] <menace> done
[18:12] <menace> though i don't think, this will help.. and i wont keep the 600gig logfile :)
[18:12] <wxl> menace: you might want to put it up somewhere like dropbox or something so it can be reviewed
[18:12] <wxl> …if you can find a place that will accept it XD
[18:13] <wxl> maybe even try to run through it and see if there are any relevant or telling lines
[18:14] <menace> i tried
[18:14] <menace> but less took a few minutes with calculating lines, and nothing noteworthy happened
[18:14] <menace> happened as in could be seen in the log
[18:15] <menace> i mean, i couldnt even zip it, even it would shrink explosively :D
[18:15] <wxl> head or tail didn't help at all?
[18:15] <wxl> maybe grepping it for "error" or something else?
[18:15] <wxl> maybe
[18:15] <wxl> just wait to see if it comes back :)
[18:15] <menace> oh, grepping for error, i forgot that
[18:15] <wxl> maybe it was a one time fluke XD
[18:16] <menace> i think so, but i try to make a habit of reporting bugs
[18:17] <wxl> i'm very happy to hear that :)
[18:17] <menace> too bad, i  forgot grepping.. already rm'ed it..
[18:17] <wxl> i'd rather have a bunch of spurious bugs than no bugs
[18:17] <wxl> ah well so bit it
[18:17] <menace> curious, my disk space seems still to be full
[18:17] <wxl> s/bit/be/
[18:17] <menace> i wonder if a reboot would fix that o_O
[18:18] <wxl> menace: might be in /tmp
[18:18] <wxl> especially if you tried to do anything with that file and cancelled it
[18:18] <wxl> you might make use out of `du -h | sort -rh | less`
[18:19] <wxl> tells me i've got 1.8g in my home folder and most of it is full of chrome caches XD
[18:19] <menace> //tmp is 11k, /var/tmp 11M.. /var/cache 1,2G
[18:20] <wxl> ooops :)
[18:20] <menace> ah, apt, pbuilder and stuff like that
[18:20] <wxl> ah pbuilder. you've been packaging?
[18:21] <menace> yeah, sometimes
[18:21] <wxl> cool
[18:21] <menace> but atm only for personal uses
[18:21] <menace> patching stuff for scratching my back :)
[18:21] <menace> but only small thingies
[18:22] <wxl> cool
[18:22] <wxl> i need to learn it
[18:22] <menace> rather simple
[18:22] <wxl> you have your own ppa?
[18:22] <menace> look at the tutorials from lucas nußbaum
[18:22] <wxl> are they only c programs currently or what?
[18:22] <wxl> link?
[18:22] <menace> yeah, here at my server in my lan
[18:22] <wxl> nice!
[18:22] <wxl> is ppa a launchpad only thing? are you running your own launchpad server/
[18:23] <menace> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.en.pdf
[18:23] <menace> and look at quilt
[18:23] <menace> no, i have a reprepo at my home"server"
[18:23] <wxl> ah cool!
[18:23] <menace> you don't need a fullblown launchpad
[18:23] <menace> https://wiki.debian.org/UsingQuilt
[18:24] <menace> with quilt i patch the sources (so it is not in the original sources), build it with pbuilder, and push it into reprepro (for this i have to scp it to the server)
[18:24] <wxl> you can use git or bzr or (shudder) svn to push?
[18:25] <menace> but ppas would have the advantage that other people could use your stuff.. never could pull myself together to migrate
[18:25] <menace> no
[18:26] <menace> you build your src/changes/deb-file, scp to server, there "reprepro -b /path/to/repo include trusty.. package-<version>.changes"
[18:26] <wxl> cool i'll check it out thx
[18:26] <menace> you're welcome
[18:59] <Ahmuck> #lxde
[19:00] <Ahmuck> how do i change menu categories?
[19:16] <testdr> Ahmuck: i think this is written down in the *.desktop files of those applications -- use "locate" to find them
[20:22] <Black111> Hey Guys, is this english or german here?
[20:22] <wxl> Black111: en
[20:22] <wxl> !de | Black111
[20:22] <wxl> come on bot
[20:23] <Black111> i have the fu/"§()/ problem with the crypted swap, like everybody it seems, it says: /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 not mounted
[20:23] <wxl> ↑ shoudl you want it
[20:23] <Black111> i read everything in the forums, but i found nothing which could solve the problem
[20:23] <wxl> and it causes no problem right?
[20:23] <Black111> so,.. maybe someone here can help?!
[20:23] <Black111> well the only problem is, that swap isnt mounted
[20:24] <Black111> ^°
[20:24] <wxl> so you have an encrypted swap that doesn't get mounted
[20:24] <Black111> yes
[20:24] <Black111> swapon -s says nothing
[20:24] <Black111> blank
[20:26] <Black111> anyone?
[20:27] <wxl> i wonder does mount all work?
[20:27] <Black111> there is much out there, but nothing solved it, i tried everything
[20:28] <Black111> no, it doesnt mound swap
[20:28] <Black111> mount
[20:28] <wxl> do you have anything in /etc/fstab?
[20:28] <Black111> ^^
[20:28] <Black111> yes,..
[20:29] <Black111> it should be quite a common problem, like a bug, found some threats from years 2010-2014
[20:30] <wxl> i don't encrypt so i'm not sure
[20:30] <Black111> fstab: UUID=9cd2323d-034234-32143-4324-42342fds32 none swap sw 0 0
[20:30] <wxl> wait
[20:30] <wxl> what version?
[20:30] <Black111> and /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[20:30] <testdr> Black111: i dont know your problem - but i use a simple file for the swap, not a whole partition and i did put this file on an encrypted partition, that is mounted first. Swap-performance on a file is quit the same like on a partition and the most delay comes from the encryption.
[20:31] <Black111> on lubuntu 14.04
[20:31] <Black111> i dont have the problem with delays, the problem is, swap isn't mounted
[20:31] <testdr> Black111: the default installation with encrypted disk (via LVM) uses a encrypted swap-partiton and did work with the normal install-procedure.
[20:32] <Black111> testdr: i did  that way, and that causes the problem, i have a new installed lubuntu now
[20:32] <testdr> Black111: you used LVM? total disk encryption?
[20:33] <Black111> no only in the end, "encryp my data"
[20:33] <Black111> i didnt use lvm
[20:33] <Black111> because that also didn't work
[20:33] <testdr> Black111: then you have no encrypted swap! - This is totally different, you are using encfs for user-home.
[20:34] <wxl> sounds like no swap at all either :)
[20:34] <Black111> i think i have one
[20:34] <Black111> there are 3 partitions made
[20:34] <Black111> one /
[20:34] <testdr> Black111: with a normal desktop-install-live-version you have no chance to tweak those things - you need the server-install to do all those speciial setups with different partitions separate encrypted.
[20:35] <Black111> and one boot, and another, i think it should be swap
[20:35] <Black111> it is ufs 2
[20:35] <Black111> it was a normal desktop lve version
[20:35] <Black111> 100%
[21:23] <buntutech> hi
[21:35] <Gassho> hi
[21:35] <silverlion> Gassho : o/
[21:35] <Gassho> :|
[21:36] <silverlion> Gassho : what's wrong?
[21:38] <Gassho> my dad's infidelity towards my mother & the crotchfruit him and his mistress made
[21:39] <ianorlin> shouldn't this be in #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:39] <silverlion> sorry my english is not that good to understand fully
[21:39] <silverlion> but I guess it's right -offtopic would be more suitable
[21:39] <pleia2> not anywhere really
[21:40] <wxl> +1 pleia2 :)
[21:40] <silverlion> Oo?
[21:40] <Gassho> also we have two jackasses putting us down
[21:40] <wxl> Unit193: ahem
[21:41] <wxl> !language | Gassho
[21:41] <Gassho> you're like a sewage charity
[21:41] <Gassho> except nobody wants what you have to offer
[21:41] <Gassho> or at least what you give in chraity
[21:41] <Unit193> Well then.
[21:41] <wxl> indeed
[21:50] <genii> And he never bothered to go to offtopic either.
[22:04] <wxl> yeah if he was cussing in offtopic that'd be a different story
[22:04] <Unit193> Anyway, time to carry on with life.
[22:05] <wxl> !life | Unit193
[22:05] <wxl> oh man i couldn't have planned that better good job ubottu


[02:34] <sentinel-prime> roaksoax you still here
[05:36] <sentinel-prime> hi
[10:37] <myrat> hello everybody
[10:46] <myrat> people can anyone help me little bit with installing mass
[10:46] <myrat> i have problem with openstack
[10:48] <wiro> not sure if I can help
[10:48] <wiro> but try :)
[10:52] <myrat> thanks
[10:53] <myrat> look i install maas juju to 4 machines
[10:54] <myrat> juju install to another server
[10:54] <myrat> now try install openstack  cloud to them
[10:55] <myrat> the os i install ubuntu 16.04
[13:54] <mup> Bug #1769691 changed: UEFI Boot fails with TFTP Error PXE-E23 <pxe> <uefi> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769691>
[14:00] <mup> Bug #1769691 opened: UEFI Boot fails with TFTP Error PXE-E23 <pxe> <uefi> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769691>
[14:03] <mup> Bug #1769691 changed: UEFI Boot fails with TFTP Error PXE-E23 <pxe> <uefi> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769691>
[15:21] <mulbc> Hi guys - I'm rather new to MAAS and I'm wondering if it is possible to use netboots instead of deploying/installing an OS on a system (especially if the system has no local storage)
[15:22] <mulbc> can't find anything about this online :/
[15:23] <roaksoax> mulbc: not supported at the moment
[15:23] <mulbc> roaksoax does that mean it's on the roadmap and I could help implement it?
[15:24] <roaksoax> mulbc: if you could help implement it, that'd be great. We already did some work to do that, but its not complete
[15:25] <mulbc> no promises - but MAAS would already add a lot of benefit to our current platform - but we will NEED to get this in to make it usable for us... do you have a link to the current state?
[15:27] <roaksoax> mulbc: i dont have a link, but MAAS already internally knows about "BOOT_IMAGE_PURPOSE.EPHEMERAL" which efectively is booting on memory
[15:28] <roaksoax> mulbc: its only enabled for caringo OS now
[15:30] <mulbc> ah that's at least a term that I can google :)
[15:31] <roaksoax> mulbc: basically what needs to be done is have a option that tells the machine to use the  BOOT_IMAGE_PURPOSE.EPHEMERAL instead of XINSTALL, and add model/api/preseed changes to do that
[15:31] <roaksoax> mulbc: if you are interested in contributing, i'd recommend yoy clone maas and start looking at what it is, and then we can help with that
[15:33] <mulbc> alright - that sounds like a plan, thanks roaksoax
[16:25] <xygnal> roaks: any built in inventory reporting in maas? having to poll the api to query
[16:25] <xygnal> is inefficient
[19:37] <mup> Bug #1668774 changed: intermittent SSL connection <docteam> <maasgh> <MAAS:Invalid by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1668774>
[19:37] <mup> Bug #1673598 changed: [2.1+] "boot_disk" for machine over API is return "null" <MAAS:Fix Released by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673598>
[19:43] <mup> Bug #1769009 changed: Unable to deploy Precise using Bionic with ext4 filesystem <curtin:Won't Fix> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769009>
[19:46] <mup> Bug #1766671 changed: [2.4] 2018-04-24 17:49:06 maasserver.dhcp: [critical] None         (UNABLE TO OBTAIN TRACEBACK FROM EVENT) <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766671>
[19:46] <mup> Bug #1771418 opened: Commissioning VMs get stuck in 'Testing' <cdo-qa> <foundations-engine> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771418>
[20:36] <mup> Bug #1769144 changed: Unable to commission node, ends up in an endless reboot cycle <maas (Ubuntu):Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1769144>
[20:40] <mup> Bug #1768893 changed: installation on several nodes failed with errors relating to dmsetup remove of ceph devices. <cdo-qa> <cdo-qa-blocker> <foundations-engine> <curtin:In Progress by raharper> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768893>
[22:19] <sentinel-prime> roaksoax you here
[22:35] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: for a second or two
[22:37] <sentinel-prime>  roaksoax my dackd.conf has this maas_url: http://localhost:5240/MAAS does this mean i have to change this line to maas_url: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5240/MAAS
[22:37] <sentinel-prime> i never got answer yesterday
[22:39] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: your machines are on <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ?
[22:39] <sentinel-prime> https://imgur.com/a/HhqVwH2
[22:40] <sentinel-prime> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:40] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: ok so <IP_ADDRESS> is your interface facing
[22:40] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: and machine facing /pxe is <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:40] <sentinel-prime> yes
[22:40] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: so rackd.conf should point to itself, in the IP that's facing the machines
[22:40] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: so that would be the pxe network
[22:43] <sentinel-prime> so this maas_url: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:5240/MAAS
[22:43] <roaksoax> correct
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1771448 opened: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see 'controllers' tab (although nothing in it) <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771448>
[22:52] <mup> Bug #1771451 opened: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see the Image selection source <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771451>
[23:12] <sentinel-prime> roaksoax it's seams to be working testing with juju bootstrap thanks for your help
[23:13] <roaksoax> sentinel-prime: no worries!
[23:22] <mup> Bug #1771456 opened: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see IP addresses assigned to other user <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771456>
[23:25] <mup> Bug #1771457 opened: [2.4, API] ipaddresses read doesn't show owned IP addresses <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771457>
[23:28] <mup> Bug #1771456 changed: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see IP addresses assigned to other user <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771456>
[23:28] <mup> Bug #1771457 changed: [2.4, API] ipaddresses read doesn't show owned IP addresses <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771457>
[23:31] <mup> Bug #1771456 opened: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see IP addresses assigned to other user <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771456>
[23:31] <mup> Bug #1771457 opened: [2.4, API] ipaddresses read doesn't show owned IP addresses <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771457>
[23:37] <mup> Bug #1771461 opened: [2.4, UI] Normal users can see 'Edit' button for Fabric/VLan/Subnet details <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771461>


[00:41] <iamthelostboy> hi.. if i have a custom job, which is for instance just a simple script, does upstart automatically emit started and stopped events for that upstart job to be chained to other upstart jobs?
[07:11] <sadmac> the BOOLEAN type in DBus has an alignment of 4
[07:11] <sadmac> \o/
[23:57] <nteon> hello