[00:00] <Nick_Meister> hi guys i watch tv almost constantly on one of the two monitors i have so i would like some way to utilize workspaces on the other monitor but still keep the original workspace on the one with the video
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> so lock the workspace switching on one of the monitors
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> how would i do that?
[00:00] <Nick_Meister> i have nvidia gforce
[00:01] <nickleboyblue> zvacet: seems promising... downloading it right now.
[00:01] <pfifo> Khisanth, hard to say for sure, the toolchain needs special handling compared to normal packages
[00:02] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, look into Separate X Sessions vs Twinview... good luck.
[00:02] <sylon> :/
[00:02] <Khisanth> you might want synergy as well
[00:02] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, but wont that meen tha i will no longer be able to drag windows between screens?
[00:03] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, correct
[00:03] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, is there any way to enable that functionality?
[00:03] <richthegeek> sup all
[00:04] <Nick_Meister> ZykoticK9, and does unity compositing works with that and still be hardware accelerated?"
[00:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> omg i need to use 9.1 to boot live cd to reinstall grub...will this revert my 10.4 system?
[00:04] <ZykoticK9> Nick_Meister, i wouldn't know (re Unity)
[00:04] <ny> hi
[00:04] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, that shouldn't be a problem
[00:04] <ny> my webcam is up side down
[00:04] <KINGOFSWORDS> phewww
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> any one can help?
[00:05] <edbian> ny: turn it over
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> over?
[00:05] <onecrazycat> I have a home network and I want to be able to access my devices by hostname, not IP.  I want a centralized list of hostnames that I can add to whenever I add a server.  Is DNS the best choice here?
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> no, i cant flip it
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> its a notebook camera
[00:05] <KINGOFSWORDS> can i move files over from ubuntu partiton or use them?
[00:05] <DarkSneaselFP> cant be fliped through hardware
[00:06] <edbian> onecrazycat: The alternative would be hand editing the config file on every machine in your network.
[00:06] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you can access ntfs filesystems from linux
[00:06] <Heylookitsbret> i followed this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1183420 and still no luck. whats the deal? bridge works in win7?
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS> how about other way around?
[00:06] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I don't want to do that.  Editing /etc/hosts seems tedious, and it seems inefficient.
[00:06] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you would need the ext2/3 drivers I mentioned
[00:07] <edbian> onecrazycat: It is tedious and inefficient.  DNS is the best approach IMO.
[00:07] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok...do i nstall them in windows?
[00:07] <zvacet>  sylon: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys  C81A926CB056DD89
[00:07] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I also constantly see tutorials that say, "type your domain name in".  If I'm home, I don't HAVE a domain name.  Can I create one?
[00:07] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone 10.10 could not install, 9.04 works great
[00:08] <onecrazycat> edbian:  I know this is connected, and it's another motive for setting up a home DNS server.  I just want to make sure I approach it in the correct way.
[00:08] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes, youll have to search sourceforge's website for ext2fsd project
[00:08] <THE_GFR|WORK> screw 10.10
[00:08] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok great thx
[00:08] <edbian> onecrazycat: You can set up a local DNS server and have domain names that are whatever you want in your home for free.  If you want a domain name that is reachable from anywhere on the Internet you have to buy it from a website like godaddy.com
[00:08] <Nick_Meister> so for two seperate x screens does compositing work?
[00:08] <onecrazycat> If I already own a domain name for my website, can I use this?
[00:08] <edbian> onecrazycat: Yes
[00:09] <zvacet> THE_GFR|WORK: did you tried 10.4 because 9.04 is not supported any more
[00:09] <edbian> onecrazycat: If you own 'example.com' you can have hello.example.com point at a specific machine
[00:09] <THE_GFR|WORK> zvacet: no but I suspect it might work, I'll try that next
[00:09] <aaron_wayne> http://imagebin.org/148578
[00:09] <Khisanth> assuming the machine has a routable address :)
[00:09] <aaron_wayne> how do i remove it?
[00:10] <phoenixsampras> MIC doesnt WORK!!!
[00:10] <phoenixsampras> why?? Bug?
[00:10] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Does it have to be entered in anywhere specific to "set" it, or do I just start using it.  It just seems weird to me.  I have a web host out on the internet, and I have my own internal network with dynamic IP.  So something tells me I can't do this unless I use DynDNS or an equivalent service to an extent.  As you can see, I know bits and peices, but I don't feel like I've got the big picture grasped fully.
[00:10] <sylon> zvacet: thanks buddy
[00:11] <onecrazycat> edbian:  As for DNS servers, what do you think is the best option right now?  I see some sites mention bind, others mention djbdns, etc...
[00:11] <zvacet> sylon: np  :)
[00:11] <sylon> anyone know when chrome/firefox will support ati driver for GPU rendering?
[00:11] <optidude> hey all
[00:11] <edbian> onecrazycat: You have to tell the service you bought the domain name from to point 'something.example.com' at your public facing IP.  Because that IP is dynamic you can you dynDNS (I'm not sure about those details).  But usually these dynamic IPs rarely change in practice
[00:11] <edbian> onecrazycat: I like bind
[00:12] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: did you tried to remove it with synaptic
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> wins 7 installed now do i just boot to livecd and install grub?
[00:13] <edbian> onecrazycat: There should also be a way to tell your domain provider 'DNS requests for X.example.com go here'  and point that at your DNS server.  Does this public IP go to a router or?
[00:13] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[00:13] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i just looked in synatpic and it shows that it is not installed, thats all i can do is install, but it still shows up on the drive, should i try to reinstall uninstall?
[00:15] <aauthor> kings: Do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[00:15] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: I don´t understand what do you meant it shows in drive
[00:15] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes you can reinstall grub via the LiveCD
[00:15] <aaron_wayne> well, if i apt-cache search or search for files it still shows up on the computer
[00:16] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, well, if i apt-cache search or search for files it still shows up on the computer
[00:16] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Do you have Ubuntu installed already?
[00:16] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Awesome.  Thank you for your insight.
[00:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> yeh aauthor and now just installed wins7
[00:16] <edbian> onecrazycat: no problem
[00:16] <zvacet> aaron_wayne : try with apt-cach show <packagename>
[00:17] <zvacet> KINGOFSWORDS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[00:17] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: those two files aren't from the fretsonfire packages
[00:17] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, ummm, that pulls up a bunch stuff
[00:17] <onecrazycat> edbian:  one last question…  How do I keep my BIND9 server from treading on my router built in DNS?
[00:17] <onecrazycat> edbian: or is this not a real issue?
[00:18] <KINGOFSWORDS> thx zvacet...i have 10.04 installed but am using 9.1livecd which tutorial would i follow...10.04 or 9.1?
[00:18] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594992/
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: The machines will use whatever DNS you tell them to. If you point them at the server they will use that  if you leave them pointed at the router they will use that.
[00:18] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Use this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:18] <onecrazycat> makes sense.
[00:18] <onecrazycat> edbian:  You're a gentle(wo)man and a scholar.
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: Both should work just fine so it really doesn't matter which one you use.
[00:18] <onecrazycat> :)
[00:18] <edbian> onecrazycat: haha (man) and thank you
[00:18] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah its ok theyre both grub2
[00:19] <zvacet> KINGOFSWORDS: 9.10 use grub2 so you can do it with thatt version of ubuntu
[00:19] <onecrazycat> edbian:  Oh yeah, that's right, this is #ubuntu, there are no women here.  How could i have forgotten such a fundamental rule?
[00:19] <edbian> hahaa
[00:19] <edbian> I saw a women once!
[00:19] <Cyberkilla> Well done that man.
[00:19] <elvis> hahah
[00:19] <bastidrazor> that was in Second Life though.. it doesn't count
[00:19] <onecrazycat> edbian: Me too.  She's sitting across the room from me trying to figure out how to use Wordpress.    Thanks again.
[00:20] <edbian> no problem
[00:20] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: Do you know what to do then?
[00:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> im reading the link u gave me...i know its grub 2
[00:21] <KINGOFSWORDS> ill follow that
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594996/
[00:23] <aauthor> KINGOFSWORDS: OK, good luck! :D
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/594996/
[00:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> ty
[00:23] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i tried installing through the software center again and uninstall but it still leaves the same things behind
[00:26] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: really don´t know
[00:27] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, thats cool, i think i am going to try to install again an go to synaptic to see if it will let me remove those items first before i uninstall completely
[00:27] <_Neytiri_> i got a issue and i odnt know how i caused it, my second monitor all of a sudden zoomed in and now when ever i move the muse it moves the position of hte screen
[00:27] <elvis> hello
[00:27] <bruenig> !hello | elvis
[00:28] <bruenig> boo
[00:28] <pfifo> elvis, change your quit message to "Left the building"
[00:28] <root> hello i  have a question
[00:28] <root> i an new
[00:28] <edbian> root: What is your question?
[00:28] <pfifo> hi root
[00:28] <Guest151> and i wana know how can i install kerenl on backtrack
[00:28] <edbian> Guest151: this is Ubuntu support not backtrack
[00:29] <Guest151> ahhh  ok sorrz
[00:29] <jordan_> im unable to connect to a datebase for work through kubuntu 10.10 anyone wanna help
[00:29] <Heylookitsbret> can anybody help with a network bridge? i have searched and all point to the same thing, but im not getting the same results.
[00:29] <zvacet> !ask | root
[00:29] <jordan_> i dont wanna have to installed windows on this laptop
[00:30] <Nick_Meister> does 11.04 right now use wayland instead of x11?
[00:30] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, how do i log in as root in the gui?
[00:30] <edbian> Nick_Meister: no it does not
[00:31] <Nick_Meister> edbian, then whas up with all the articles saying it will :S
[00:31] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: what are you trying to do?
[00:31] <jordan_> heres the login http://www.milanmedical.com/omhc/omhc.html
[00:31] <edbian> Nick_Meister: link please?  (perhaps I'm wrong)
[00:31] <aaron_wayne> well, i was going to try to go to the file location and delete them
[00:31] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://chicagrafo.blogspot.com/2011/01/ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal-and-wayland.html
[00:31] <jordan_> havnt been able to figure it out
[00:32] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, well, i was going to try to go to the file location and delete them
[00:32] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1872536
[00:32] <jordan_> i maybe over looking something
[00:32] <Nick_Meister> edbian, http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2343452
[00:32] <MaRk-I> Nick_Meister: ask in #ubuntu+1
[00:32] <pfifo> jordan_, it seems to require java
[00:32] <jordan_> i have java
[00:32] <jordan_> ;)
[00:32] <apocaliptica> some can help   me
[00:32] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: alt+f2 and type gksudo nautilus after that you can browser filesystem be carefull
[00:33] <edbian> Nick_Meister: Looks like you're right :)
[00:33] <elementz> i need some help: how do is turn of the display of icons on my desktop in gnome. after a reboot, i suddenly have my homefolder display on my desktop
[00:33] <zvacet> *browse
[00:33] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: why exactly are you trying to remove those two files?
[00:33] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, yeah, no doubt, or could you tell me, is there a way to get into the /usr dir in the terminal
[00:33] <Nick_Meister> edbian, so what do i do about 3d acceleration on nvidia :(
[00:33] <pfifo> jordan_, perhaps you should try installing the official sun java if your using openjdk
[00:33] <edbian> open a terminal.  type gconf-editor
[00:34] <zvacet> aaron_wayne : cd /usr
[00:34] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, i mean, i guess they are no big issue, but i uninstalled the game and i would like those to go away too
[00:34] <apocaliptica> i wana install kernel  and  i   dont know how?
[00:34] <Nick_Meister> edbian, ive been using their drivers for ever
[00:34] <jordan_> im using openjdk
[00:34] <apocaliptica> someone can help?
[00:34] <Khisanth> ...
[00:34] <jordan_> pfifo, thanks
[00:34] <jordan_> ill try that
[00:34] <edbian> Nick_Meister: I have no idea :(  Ask in #ubuntu+1 they might know better
[00:34] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: those files are used by the software center itself
[00:34] <aaron_wayne> zvacet, lol, maybe thats not what im thinkin of then, i thought i couldnt get into the before
[00:34] <zvacet> apocaliptica: latest?
[00:34] <edbian> elementz: open gconf-editor
[00:35] <MaRk-I> apocaliptica: how do you want to install a kernel, or why?
[00:35] <elementz> edbian: done.
[00:35] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, so they would show regardless of being removed from the computer?
[00:35] <apocaliptica> ZVACET 2.6.39
[00:35] <apocaliptica> I HAVE DOWNLOAD IT
[00:35] <edbian> elementz: apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[00:35] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: well they would be gone if you remove the software center but I don't think you want to do that
[00:35] <apocaliptica> cause  i have a intell 5100 and it dont work with the kernel i have
[00:36] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, right, i got ya, so i guess i should just leave it alone?
[00:36] <edbian> elementz: should be clear in there I think
[00:36] <zvacet> apocaliptica: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/automatically-compile-and-install-the-latest-kernel-using-kernelcheck-in-ubuntu.html
[00:36] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: yes
[00:36] <elementz> edbian: yeah, thats where i looked already. but theres no option to switch off the display of the icons
[00:36] <apocaliptica> did  it work with backtrack   too?
[00:36] <edbian> elementz: umm, there are 4 check boxes.  display home folder on desktop is one of them.  Is that box ticked?
[00:37] <bazhang> apocaliptica, that is not supported here
[00:37] <Khisanth> aaron_wayne: if you search for fretsonfire in software center, you see that burning F icon, that is what one of those files is
[00:37] <bazhang> !backtrack | apocaliptica
[00:37] <bazhang> apocaliptica, /join #backtrack-linux for backtrack support
[00:37] <elementz> edbian: thats the problem. there is no such option in my gconf. only for computer_icon_visible home_icon_visible and so on
[00:37] <aaron_wayne> Khisanth, cool, okj
[00:38] <elementz> edbian: what would be the proper name for the setting, so that i can create it myself?
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: Is the home_icon_visible box ticked?
[00:38] <apocaliptica> ok thank you
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: OH!! Those are missing!
[00:38] <MK``> if I export the output of a terminal using sudo, will I have access to that text file without root access?
[00:38] <elementz> edbian: home_icon_visible is not ticked no. none is ticked
[00:38] <edbian> elementz: You say that that field doesn't exist yet at the same time you say it doesn't exist.  Which is it?
[00:39] <Nick_Meister> #ubuntu+1
[00:39] <edbian> elementz:  Sorry, hang on.  home_icon_visible exists or not?
[00:39] <elementz> edbian: home_icon_visible exists and is unticked
[00:39] <zvacet> aaron_wayne: maybe yo ucan try updatedb to update your database
[00:39] <edbian> elementz: But the folder shows up on the desktop?
[00:40] <elementz> edbian: but my problem is, that i suddenly have the contents of /home on my desktop
[00:40] <iaindalton> What's the sound device file on Ubuntu? I don't have /dev/pcm or /dev/mixer, and some app uses those by default
[00:40] <elementz> edbian: meaning, everything residing under /home/ is visible on the desktop
[00:40] <edbian> elementz: So the desktop isn't showing the icon for you home.  It's showing the contents of your home
[00:40] <edbian> elementz: yeah ok hang on
[00:40] <AcidPhone> hax
[00:41] <AcidPhone> i got an android question
[00:41] <elementz> edbian: yep. didn't i say so? sorry if i did confuse you
[00:41] <bazhang> AcidPhone, ask in an android channel then
[00:41] <bazhang> !alis | AcidPhone
[00:41] <AcidPhone> :/
[00:41] <bazhang> AcidPhone, /msg alis list *android* for a channel
[00:41] <edbian> elementz: I was confused but I'm not anymore.  I have to find that setting.  I know there is one, I've seen it before.  I'm looking...
[00:41] <elementz> edbian: thx!
[00:42] <AcidPhone> cool
[00:42] <itilious> are there any options for remote desktop NOT to show my activity to anyone in the room of the remote ubuntu?
[00:43] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[00:43] <shield> Elementz - try this: run gconf-editor and browse to /apps/nautilus/preferences/. There should be an option there called desktop_is_home_dir.
[00:43] <AcidPhone> that command didnt work
[00:43] <shield> i just found this on the Ubuntu forums
[00:43] <cellardoor> I get this from nm-applet on my taskbar, any ideas? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/373041/
[00:43] <elementz> shield: yeah. thats actually unticket
[00:43] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok just reinstalled grub abd booted to ubuntu...but i didnt get option to boot ubunut/windwos
[00:44] <edbian> elementz: There is also this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17752/use-any-folder-for-your-ubuntu-desktop-even-a-dropbox-folder/
[00:44] <bazhang> cellardoor, what version of ubuntu
[00:44] <cellardoor> bazhang: this is my 10.10 box
[00:44] <shield> hmm.  Weird.  Have you tried to check it save it, and then go back in and uncheck it?
[00:44] <elementz> shield: doing that right now
[00:44] <shield> see that clears the desktop of trying to use the home folder for the desktop?
[00:44] <shield> k
[00:45] <bazhang> cellardoor, could you describe in a bit more detail what you are trying to do, please
[00:45] <itilious> is it possible to have ubuntu turn off display monitor upon remote desktop connection, and then turn back on when user disconnects?
[00:46] <AcidPhone> question about yaaic
[00:46] <cellardoor> bazhang: for some reason when I hover over the network manager applet on my taskbar, I am getting 'no network devices available'. and if i run it from terminal, I get that error whenever I click on it.
[00:46] <AcidPhone> it will let me connect to pretty much every server but gamesurge.net
[00:46] <AcidPhone> anyone knoe why?
[00:47] <Etz_> Hello room
[00:47] <bazhang> AcidPhone, android question sounds like
[00:47] <AcidPhone> hey
[00:47] <itilious> or is it possible to have ubuntu local station lock/show login screen after vnc connection made?
[00:47] <Etz_> When version 11.4 will be release?
[00:47] <AcidPhone> wtf. i just did join android :/
[00:47] <edbian> Etz_: 28th
[00:47] <AcidPhone> sry
[00:47] <Etz_> Thanks
[00:48] <KINGOFSWORDS> just installed windows 7 onto dual boot following ubuntu..reinstalled grub but now cant log into windwos
[00:48] <virusuy> hi folks!
[00:48] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, what do you mean cant log into window? can you not boot to it or can you boot it but not log in?
[00:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> i just sudo update-grub2 and it sorted it i think pfifo thx
[00:50] <elementz> edbian: your link actually helped
[00:50] <elementz> thx
[00:50] <KINGOFSWORDS> it wasnt appearing in the boot menu
[00:50] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yeah, i figured, have fun
[00:50] <apocaliptica> help
[00:50] <edbian> elementz: Glad :)
[00:51] <apocaliptica> i need some help on  installing kernel
[00:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> =)
[00:51] <virusuy> apocaliptica: just ask , someone will help you
[00:51] <KINGOFSWORDS> windows takes ages
[00:51] <virusuy> aocaliptica: btw awesome band :-D
[00:51] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, should have went with XP
[00:52] <bazhang> apocaliptica, backtrack is not supported here, as you've told previously
[00:52] <apocaliptica> i need to  install kernel 2.6.39 on backtrack 4
[00:52] <apocaliptica> sorry
[00:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> u think?
[00:52] <virusuy> backtrack ?? this channel is for ubuntu only
[00:52] <KINGOFSWORDS> does gta 4 work on xp better or worse?
[00:52] <virusuy> i dunno if backtrack has a support channel
[00:52] <herman_> any help with ltsp here? #ltsp is quiet
[00:52] <apocaliptica> i miss the chanel agian
[00:52] <bazhang> apocaliptica, /join #backtrack-linux
[00:52] <edbian> there is so many backtrack people.  I can't figure out why
[00:53] <herman_> I have 80% packet loss on my system, can't find the cause of that
[00:53] <edbian> herman_: What if you ping loopback?
[00:53] <bazhang> !backtrack > apocaliptica
[00:53] <iaindalton> herman_: packets go in, they don't go out. You can't explain that.
[00:53] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, usue less resources for me, more for gaming, and since your in the same bin as me, linux for work and windows for games, it might be a bit better, but both work fine
[00:53] <herman_> sorry, ping loopback?
[00:54] <herman_> I'm not a newbe, nor an expert :-) sorry for that
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: 80% packet loss pinging what site?
[00:54] <herman_> any site
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: What if you ping your router?
[00:54] <herman_> I test my own, ofcourse
[00:54] <herman_> www.harperink.de
[00:54] <edbian> herman_: Can you test other machines on your lan?
[00:54] <KINGOFSWORDS> ill try it out and perhps downgrade later on
[00:54] <herman_> no problems pinging the router
[00:55] <edbian> herman_: Sounds like you ISP
[00:55] <herman_> I ruled out all the hardware (router,switch) by testing with other systems
[00:55] <herman_> yes, ISP, private
[00:55] <edbian> herman_: call them
[00:55] <itilious> is there any way to remote desktop to ubuntu without broadcasting the activity everyone in the room of the computer?
[00:56] <edbian> itilious: If you use ssh they can see that you are talking to that machine but they can't see what you're saying
[00:56] <herman_> ha ha, office hours are on monday
[00:56] <Tux19> hey all
[00:56] <herman_> but anyway, it's a big dumb problem
[00:56] <itilious> edbian, i'm not talking about packets i'm talking about the physical display
[00:56] <herman_> the ltsp server/client is a home setup, just for me
[00:56] <itilious> windows RDP shows login screen as to not show remote user activity
[00:57] <itilious> how can i replicate this for Ubuntu?
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: come again?
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: oh.  yeah ssh sorry~!
[00:57] <itilious> ssh will turn off the screen upon vnc remote desktop connection? lol
[00:57] <edbian> itilious: If you ssh in other users will probably have no idea.  They only way they can tell is that you will show up in who
[00:58] <herman_> pinging lo is stable and has no packet ,oss
[00:58] <herman_> Loss
[00:58] <edbian> itilious: ssh doesn't do anything to the screen?
[00:58] <Tux19> how is everyone doing
[00:58] <itilious> lol no?
[00:58] <edbian> itilious: VNC is changing the screen I think
[00:58] <itilious> edbian, i dont want to SHARE my desktop, i wanna use it remotely,,, vnc SHOWS what youre doing remotely
[00:58] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet?
[00:58] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet? in xubuntu
[00:59] <edbian> itilious: I'm not sure how to turn that off.  There isn't some setting in VNC ?
[00:59] <MK``> if I export the output of a terminal using a command that requires sudo, will I have access to that text file without root access?
[00:59] <itilious> edbian, RDP hosts do NOT show the activity,,, the question is....... can ubuntu HOST hide the activity like windows RDP does
[01:00] <edbian> itilious: You could (as a workaround) just use ssh ;)
[01:00] <itilious> does the ssh magical packets work the computer so in a way that no one would be able to actually decipher what they see on the screen edbian?
[01:00] <itilious> :p
[01:00] <Tux19> :p
[01:00] <pfifo> itilious, i agree, just use cli. what do you need the actual GUI for?
[01:01] <edbian> itilious: ssh is cli only. You will not 'see the screen' you will have a bash shell on the target machine.  Besides people looking at your screen while you do it there is no way for them to tell exactly what you're doing.
[01:01] <herman_> anyhow, any options?
[01:01] <itilious> pfifo, just too new to do the remote stuff via terminal yet,,, and too used to RDP lol
[01:01] <edbian> itilious: learn to use the shell.  It's AWESOME
[01:01] <Khisanth> actually you can just start vncserver from cli and that won't show up on screen either :)
[01:02] <pfifo> itilious, again, what do you need todo via the gui, we probbally know how to do it or have some cool tricks
[01:02] <herman_> packet loss occurs while the connection goes down every 15-30 secs
[01:02] <itilious> how much background in programming do you need to have to get really able to even use shell?
[01:02] <edbian> itilious: I would say none  :)
[01:03] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome volume applet? in xubuntu
[01:03] <telemare> is this the ubuntu ce support channel
[01:03] <itilious> pfifo, i want to simply have a window/fullscreen view into my ubntu remote machine but so that no one loking at the screen of the HOST see whats going on
[01:04] <itilious> edbian, some good places to help me out with drills, or practice stuff to get me going on shell?
[01:04] <Khisanth> iirc there is an option for that too
[01:04] <edbian> itilious: Khisanth says that if you start vncserver from cli you won't see it on the hosts' machine
[01:04] <telemare> is it?
[01:04] <pfifo> itilious, unplug the monitor?
[01:04] <itilious> i'ved always wanted to learn and i'm made the final push to linux and not going back this time
[01:04] <edbian> itilious: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/cli.html
[01:05] <itilious> bookmark
[01:06] <edbian> itilious: I just googled into linux cli and that came up :P  They're a dime a dozen
[01:06] <Khisanth> it's not necessary for the vnc "desktop" to be shared with the what a person sitting in front of the computer might see
[01:10] <macintoshh> Is there a way that I can stop network manager from auto-reconnecting to a wireless network when it disconnects?
[01:10] <Tux19> hey all
[01:10] <edbian> Tux19: hello
[01:10] <pfifo> If I find a device witha a Motorola Dragonball CPU can I get ubuntu to install on it? (68000)
[01:10] <Tux19> hey man esbain
[01:10] <bazhang> pfifo, no
[01:10] <Tux19> was u the guy i talked to last night
[01:10] <bazhang> Tux19, ubuntu support question?
[01:10] <edbian> pfifo: I don't think Ubuntu supports that arch.  (you could with gentoo :) )
[01:11] <smw> macintoshh, edit the connection setting.
[01:11] <smw> macintoshh, autoconnect is an option
[01:11] <Tux19> nope
[01:11] <pfifo> aww :(
[01:11] <bazhang> Tux19, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:11] <Tux19> edbian: i am talking to you on the private thing
[01:11] <johnn> Has anyone configured a "creative SB live 24-bit" to work on 10.04?
[01:12] <Tux19> sorry someone came in here
[01:13] <macintoshh> smw: unfortunately I have tried that, the issue is not it auto connecting, it is it auto REconnecting when connection drops - when that happens I lose my VPN tunnel and without warning it reconnects me without the VPN
[01:14] <smw> macintoshh, no idea then
[01:14] <tiox> Hey guys, I need some help with Wine, if anybody has the experience I had with it...
[01:15] <smw> !anyone | tiox
[01:15] <DrManhattan> a good cabermet?
[01:15] <DrManhattan> net
[01:15] <macintoshh> Is there a way that I can stop network manager from auto-reconnecting to a wireless network when it disconnects?
[01:16] <johnn> Has anyone configured a "creative SB live 24-bit" to work on 10.04?
[01:16] <Khisanth> you could probably set it to automatically set up the VPN after reconnecting as well
[01:16] <tiox> I installed Wine from the Ubuntu stable repositories, and it works rather well for the two games I tried it out with. Problem is, while sound works when I configure it, when I run one of the games, the sound cuts out the moment sound happens.
[01:16] <bazhang> tiox, installing the package wine? or a particular windows app with wine
[01:16] <bazhang> tiox, /join #winehq for help with particular apps
[01:17] <tiox> I get no sound from games in Windows, but sound works when I configure it (The test sound functions just fine.)
[01:17] <tiox> I have, they are not being particularly helpful at this moment.
[01:17] <Sample> Okay fellas, I've run into a problem that I cannot seem to solve via my googlings. Basically, I setup an ubuntu 10.10 machine as my first time running linux. it is an emachines computer and everything was going fine. i setup a static IP on it so I can SSH into it from work etc. without the IP changing. One day I did the Updates that Ubuntu requested and I believe, possibly,
[01:17] <drkmachine> I have a question on a ubuntu server running samba is this the channel to ask or is there another?
[01:17] <tiox> Your message got cut off.
[01:17] <Sample> that the internet was still working a while after that. Perhaps I rebooted, I don't know, but at some point the internet won't work. (and this is a WIRED connection). Also, I can however access the router settings
[01:18] <tiox> COuld it be issues with NDISwrapper and your WIndows NIC drivers?
[01:18] <bazhang> drkmachine, #ubuntu-server
[01:18] <Sample> tiox: speaking greek
[01:18] <tiox> el oh el.
[01:18] <drkmachine> ty
[01:18] <bazhang> Sample, whats the nic
[01:19] <Sample> network interface.. card?
[01:19] <bazhang> Sample, lspci to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:19] <Sample> k
[01:19] <Tux19> anyone needs help
[01:19] <tiox> COuldn't he also use lshw?
[01:19] <bazhang> Sample, please also paste ifconfig
[01:19] <bazhang> Tux19, please dont solicit
[01:19] <Sample> k. I can't paste anything from that computer because I can't access that URL but I'll type it out slowly into a pastebin =D
[01:19] <|Long|> i just changed timezone on my systemtime, is there a cmd to update? instead of reboot?
[01:20] <tiox> Sample: Terminal has copy/paste, just hold shift while doing it.
[01:20] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime |Long|
[01:20] <Tux19> so you are telling me not to help peaple in here
[01:20] <tiox> Highlight, shift+ctrl+c for copy, shift+ctrl+v to paste.
[01:20] <tiox> Tux19: You have it confused.
[01:20] <|Long|> bazhang, thanks
[01:20] <bazhang> Tux19, I'm telling you not to say "does anyone need help"
[01:21] <tiox> This is a community support channel. Help where you can.
[01:21] <Tux19> whats rong with that
[01:21] <bazhang> Tux19, it adds noise to the channel
[01:21] <tiox> Uhhh... people come in here for help. Please use your expertise on those that need it, instead of asking if people need it.
[01:21] <tiox> (If that makes sense.)
[01:21] <bazhang> it does
[01:22] <Sample> tiox, bazhang: thanks I'll be back momentarily. I have to figure out how I can get this output over to this windows laptop I'm on for you guys. I can't even seem to shell into that machine using the local static ip (if this is correct terminology?) which I gave it (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[01:23] <Guest42801> hello, I need some help with my new install
[01:23] <bazhang> Sample, you might also want to try sudo dhclient eth0 if eth0 shows in ifconfig
[01:23] <mcfc> hi new to    this
[01:23] <Evildaemon> The term is SSH, but your close enough, as that stands for secure shell.
[01:23] <bazhang> Guest42801, please ask a question then
[01:23] <Afteraffekt> I need help with audio if anybody is willing to help!
[01:23] <tiox> Guest42801: To ensure you egt the best support that you can, give yourself a nickname not already registered here.
[01:23] <tiox> get*
[01:23] <Evildaemon> *Sample
[01:24] <Afteraffekt> I have audio through my laptop speakers, but not through my headphones. using sudo alsamixer all the volumns are turned up
[01:24] <tiox> Just type /nick [nickname goes here]
[01:24] <Tux19> hey all
[01:24] <bazhang> Tux19, hi
[01:24] <ljsoftnet> how do i install gnome-volume-applet? in xubuntu
[01:24] <francesc1> hi Tux19
[01:25] <tiox> you are saying, there is no way to adjust the volume in xubuntu?
[01:25] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, via the package manager? or the terminal?
[01:25] <pfifo> tiox, it works no problem for me
[01:25] <Tux19> francesc1: talking to you in a private chat room
[01:25] <Seven_Six_Two> xubuntu uses xfce4, right?
[01:25] <bazhang> !pm | Tux19
[01:26] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[01:26] <tiox> Yes, 762
[01:26] <pfifo> tiox, use xfce4-mixer
[01:26] <pfifo> should bbe built in
[01:26] <ljsoftnet> bazhang the terminal
[01:26] <bazhang> ljsoftnet, see abovce
[01:26] <Sample> okay nice I found a USB drive i'll output those commands for you guys into a file and bring them over in a minute
[01:26] <Afteraffekt> does anybody have any ideas for me?
[01:27] <tiox> ljsoftnet: Does sudo apt-get install gnome-volume-applet work?
[01:27] <tiox> If not, you will need to seek out the package manually, shouldn;t be too hard with Google.
[01:28] <Afteraffekt> Laptop Speakers play sound, but Headphone jack doesnt, any ideas
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, are you in face using gnome? not xfce?
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> !repeat | Afteraffekt
[01:28] <tiox> He said xubuntu. So it should be assumed it is xfce 4, nor Gnome 2.
[01:28] <tiox> not*
[01:29] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, a pure ide is a software switch, check amixer carefully
[01:29] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two im on xfce
[01:29] <Afteraffekt> thank you pfifo
[01:29] <tiox> I also found in my experience alacrate needs to be installed manually, and I think gconf-editor too.
[01:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> pfifo...stupid question...but i have gta4 installed in ubuntu...i still need to install in windwos right?
[01:29] <tiox> alacarte*
[01:30] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, assuming its a legal copy, thne yeah you probbally nee to run the installer, you probbally need direcx and stuff too
[01:30] <tiox> KINGOFSWORDS: Maybe not.
[01:30] <Seven_Six_Two> KINGOFSWORDS, did you check winehq?
[01:30] <tiox> If you can access your Ext4 partition in WIndows, it should still work from running the executable.
[01:31] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, bronze, i never got it working
[01:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> i installed in wine...just wouldnt run cuz of DSCGlaucher crashing
[01:31] <tiox> Otherwise, yes, reinstall it.
[01:31] <Guest628> c
[01:32] <tiox> #winehq is all but dead. Anybody wish to help me with my Wine sound issue, at all?
[01:33]  * YoungMaker is having problems installing ubuntu for the first time. Won't let me get past the password page!
[01:33] <Sample> tiox, bazhang: lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595002/ , ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595001/ , dhclient eth0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595000/ , lshw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595003/
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, is your capslock on?  ;)
[01:33] <pfifo> tiox, can you give some details? run wine in cli and see if theres any error messages
[01:33] <tiox> Uh, Sample,  okay, thanks.
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, oh, I might have misunderstood. You can't even get the install completed?
[01:33] <YoungMaker> yea
[01:34] <YoungMaker> then sometimes it crashes
[01:35] <juan_> quien habla español
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, so the installer asks you to type your new password. Can you type it once? Can you not type? Does it say there's an error? When you put your password in, does your computer say "Brain the size of a universe, and I have to remember your passwords..."
[01:35] <bazhang> !es | juan_
[01:35] <Sample> so again, on a WIRED connection I can't access the internet. I THINK it could have potentially been caused by the first big update ubuntu performed after the install. Either this, or the static IP I had setup... but the static IP had been working completely fine before.
[01:36] <juan_> thanks
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, does   ifconfig   show that you have a non 169. ip?
[01:36] <Sample> I put off the update ubuntu was requesting after install for a while because it was so large and at some mysterious point after a week or so of use the internet completely stopped working and so I'm kind of supposing it could have been an update thing
[01:36] <Sample> Seven_Six_Two: this is my ifconfig ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu.com/595001/
[01:36] <dd214> what's a good first person shooter that will run on Ubuntu?
[01:37] <YoungMaker> helll no I type it in and and the "foreward button is shaded and willnot press, it says in the loading bar "ready when you are"
[01:37] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:37] <Seven_Six_Two> dd214, ut2004
[01:37] <Sample> Seven_Six_Two: I can access the router, yep
[01:37] <Sample> even from my browser
[01:38] <Sample> it could be a router issue too but its a cisco e2000, pretty durn smart and ive never had it get confused and shut anything out before. maybe the static ip thing.. no idea
[01:38] <dd214> Seven_Six_Two thnx
[01:38] <Sample> im just hoping i can perform some commands that will give me a better idea of what im trying to fix here
[01:38] <victorhugo289> Guys, I have a problem, Gparted shows 2 partitions on a SATA hard drive but the second partition is labeled "Sda3" how can that be possible, there must be a hidden partition!
[01:38] <Sample> where the problem/internet outage actually lies
[01:38] <Seven_Six_Two> Sample, Have you tried powercycling your modem and router? Does your router say you have a connection, with an ip from your isp?
[01:38] <victorhugo289> The first partition starts at sector 63?
[01:38] <pfifo> Sample, try pinging google @ <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:39] <Nick_Meister> does anyone have a work around for this bug with unity ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/661450
[01:39] <Afteraffekt> thank you pfifo, but where is the settings that turns off the speakers and activates the headphone jack when its plugged in?
[01:39] <victorhugo289> And I can't install Windows XP on my first partition, I had this terrible virus named Tenga, and I get errors even though I formated the partition
[01:39] <Nick_Meister> im not able to get the title bar with the separate x screens going
[01:39] <victorhugo289> I have no expeerience with SATA drives
[01:39] <Afteraffekt> victorhugo289 you may need to 0 it out
[01:40] <Sample> WTF
[01:40] <victorhugo289> How??
[01:40] <Sample> so i pinged google and it worked
[01:40] <MNichie> victorhugo289, 0 out the MBR
[01:40] <Sample> so i went to google in my browser and it worked
[01:40] <victorhugo289> I thought of using Fdisk -f but this is a SATA drive, will it work??
[01:40] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, like i said it was just an idea, sometimes soundcards can havwe alot of extra options like that
[01:40] <Sample> it hasnt been working for a WEEK and ive been restarting the physical router... restarting init.d/networking, all kinds of stuff!
[01:40] <victorhugo289> The first partition starts at sector 63, i don't know if that's normal
[01:40] <Sample> the only things ive done were run the 4 commands the channel asked for... could that have fixed it somehow!? O_O
[01:41] <pfifo> Sample, its DNS problem likely
[01:41] <victorhugo289> I can tell there's a hidden partition in there, or something.
[01:41] <Sample> they were lspci, ifconfig, dhclient eth0, and lshw
[01:41] <YoungMaker> Seven_Six_Two: any help? pls. its a dell demesion 3000 pentium 4 w/ 80 GB HD
[01:41] <Afteraffekt> victor thers many things, also the mbr takes up the first bit
[01:41] <MNichie> victorhugo289: not likely, do this http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/36203-how-zero-disk-especially-mbr.html then reformat
[01:41] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, you and me both. That's why I switched to twinview with absolute positioning, then added panels for my other monitor
[01:41] <onur_> Hi !
[01:41] <Sample> that is completely, totally, absolutely, bizarre
[01:41] <tiox> BTW, Nautilu8s Elementary kicks ass for it's built-in term. http://paste.ubuntu.com/595004/
[01:41] <Sample> im more confused now than when it didnt work =O
[01:42] <victorhugo289> Alright, but if I install Ubuntu will that clean the MBR?
[01:42] <pfifo> Sample, check /etc/resolv.conf see if you have valid DNS servers listed
[01:42] <tiox> Nautilus Elementary*
[01:42] <victorhugo289> Will installing Ubuntu clean the MBR?
[01:42] <Sample> its like totally fixed and i havent the slightest clue why
[01:42] <Nick_Meister> Seven_Six_Two, what about the separate workspaces issue, i want to be able to switch workspaces on both monitors independently
[01:42] <Sample> ive been fighting with it, doing various things i found via googling, etc for a solid week
[01:42] <Sample> it 100% wasnt working when i joined this channel
[01:42] <bazhang> Sample, fixed?
[01:42] <Sample> bazhang: somehow, yes...
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, well, that's a sacrifice I was willing to make. It's a tradeoff for being able to drag windows from one monitor to the other
[01:43] <Sample> im honestly sitting here like, "did putting the USB into the computer fix my internet o.O"
[01:43] <tiox> victorhugo289: What about the MBR again?
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, how long is the password you're trying to enter?
[01:43] <bastidrazor> bazhang's magic can reach across worlds.
[01:43] <Nick_Meister> Seven_Six_Two, but i dont want to drag windows
[01:43] <victorhugo289> I had this virus, and before wiping the HDD I did Avast, it locked some key files for Windows XP to work properly, then those files appear as "Inaccessible" during the new Windows XP installation, even though I formatted the parttition, and I'm like WTH!
[01:43] <tiox> Sample: I had a similar bizzare incident where I thought X was the issue, but I fixed a mouse problem... by plugging another mouse in.
[01:43] <Sample> i joined the channel, ran the 5 commands you guys asked for the output of, put them on a USB, came in here, pinged the google IP and to my dismay it worked, and then so i went to google.com, and everything works like it was never broken
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> Nick_Meister, sorry if I gave you false hope. Your issue is why I stopped trying. It was frustrating to say the least
[01:44] <victorhugo289> @tiox, if I install Ubuntu, will it take over the MBR?
[01:44] <YoungMaker> Seven_Six_Two: ******** letters
[01:44] <MNichie> victorhugo289: Then you have a virus that has put itself in the MBR, wipe the MBR and the partitions
[01:44] <Sample> well thanks for the time everyone, although im not sure how on earth after all my trials and tribulations its suddenly fixed by doing nothing
[01:44] <Afteraffekt> yea
[01:44] <Sample> you guys are apparently magical
[01:44] <tiox> victorhugo289: Worse comes to worse, download Parted Magic and burn to disk, run from RAM (or CD) and use the secure wipe function of your hard drive through it.
[01:44] <YoungMaker> now its stuck "getting the time from the server"
[01:44] <pfifo> Sample, gremlins need to sleep sometime
[01:45] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, it's been a while since I've done the install...There's nothing else on the screen that it might be asking for? a username?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> yea. I put in Aaron
[01:45] <bazhang> YoungMaker, all the usernames are in lower case?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> no
[01:45] <Sample> just out of curiousity, could any of those commands (lspci, ifconfig, dhclient eth0, and lshw) have possibly fixed anything, or are they just showing the output of some settings without having any altering effects?
[01:45] <YoungMaker> ahhhh
[01:45] <bazhang> try that then YoungMaker
[01:46] <MNichie> dhclient can pull a new ip addr/dns...
[01:46] <YoungMaker> WOW. i feel like an idiot. Thanks doe the help!! its installing
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> bazhang, nice catch! I didn't know that was a requirement.
[01:46] <pfifo> Sample, dhclient eth0 could have
[01:46] <bazhang> Sample, no way of knowing really
[01:46] <bazhang> Seven_Six_Two, its a bug of long standing
[01:47] <bazhang> YoungMaker, not your mistake, atrocious bug in the installer
[01:47] <victorhugo289> I will wipe the MBR by installing Ubuntu 10.10, I have no other choice, but then I'm gonna have to wipe Ubuntu installing Windows XP, and I hope --I really hope-- the installation will not fail again.
[01:47] <Afteraffekt> pfifo, may i send you a pm please?
[01:47] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, thats fine
[01:48] <Sample> pfifo: yeah that one gave me some odd output
[01:48] <Sample> what does that command do exactly?
[01:48] <YoungMaker> Whats a good IRC client for ubuntu, im on Ice Chat in xp now
[01:48] <bazhang> Sample, gets a newlease
[01:48] <Sample> YoungMaker: xchat
[01:48] <YoungMaker> ill try that
[01:48] <Sample> YoungMaker: and mIRC is by far the best on windows
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> YoungMaker, yes, xchat. not xchat-gnome
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, cli = irssi weechat  gui xchat and others
[01:49] <victorhugo289> What I did on the infected Windows XP was to scan it with Avast, Avast then sent some key files to the vault --rundll32.exe-- etc, and when I tried to re-install Windows XP again from the CD I get error after error about not being able to accesss the files which I know are those Avast locked, this is sooo weird.
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, check in the package manager or apt-cache search irc
[01:49] <YoungMaker> hmm ice chat works ok, but it uses like 12,000 kb ram. is mIRC better for that?
[01:49] <Nick_Meister> u know what screw it im going with kubuntu
[01:49] <Nick_Meister> tired of unity crap
[01:49] <bazhang> YoungMaker, mirc for ubuntu? no
[01:50] <YoungMaker> for xp
[01:50] <bazhang> ask in ##windows
[01:50] <Nick_Meister> xchat works in windows
[01:50] <bazhang> as does irssi
[01:50] <tiox> victorhugo289: If not answered already, yes, Ubuntu takes over the MBR.
[01:50] <victorhugo289> I went to Windows, it's not helping me, look: I am an Ubuntu user, I am talking about a Windows XP which is on a friend's computer.
[01:50] <YoungMaker> well yeah, but my ubuntus sitll installing on my crap computer, so ill have to wait
[01:50] <tiox> This can be undone through WIndows' recovery console or rescue disk.
[01:51] <pfifo> Sample, dhclient requests an IP address from a dhcp server
[01:51] <bazhang> victorhugo289, not getting help in ##windows does not make this the fallback windows support channel however
[01:51] <rww> victorhugo289: #ubuntu is for technical support with Ubuntu. It's not for technical support for Ubuntu users who are using Windows right now ;P
[01:52] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:52] <MNichie> victorhugo289: Once again you need to completely wipe the MBR, beyond that, take it to geek squad or something
[01:52] <lucia> i have problem on easynote driver after installing ubuntu it has 640 480 resolution ,ow to make it higher?
[01:52] <victorhugo289> I am installing Ubuntu, lol!  what is your problem guys? I'm telling you I am installing Ubuntu, the issue I have is with a dual boot installation where the Windows OS failed!
[01:52] <Seven_Six_Two> aaw. I was planning on asking someone to help me fix my toaster. I use ubuntu 10.10
[01:52] <victorhugo289> ok
[01:53] <pfifo> Seven_Six_Two, are the coils intact? plugged in?
[01:53] <Seven_Six_Two> pfifo, no one told me I had to plug it in..
[01:54] <victorhugo289> It failed because there's is a hidden partition and Gparted does not show it. But I will have to go to #Windows...
[01:54] <lucia> i have problem on easynote, After installing ubuntu ,the driver has only 640 480 resolution ,how to make it higher?
[01:54] <rww> victorhugo289: gparted shows all partitions on the disk.
[01:55] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> I don't thin windows can hide a partition from linux...
[01:55] <Paddy_NI> Would anyone be able to help me enable "master" mode on my netbooks wifi... I am trying to turn my netbook into a wireless accesspoint that shares the internet my usb mobile broadband is receiving.. So far most threads and ubuntu wiki docs are not applicable
[01:55] <rww> victorhugo289: numbering oddities are a byproduct of partitioning sometimes. e.g. if you make three partitions, then delete the first two and make one big one, the last one will still be named sdx3.
[01:55] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, have you downloaded special drivers for your wifi?
[01:56] <tiox> Paddy: Can you bemore specific?
[01:56] <binni> is it possible to do a command that open up a new terminal and executes a command in that terminal?
[01:56] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: nope I am have a broadcom chipset and using the proprietary driver which is not allowing me to enable master mode
[01:57] <MNichie> binni:What are you trying to do?
[01:57] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, from what I've read, you need patched drivers for master or promiscuous mode on many/most cards
[01:57] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: I have no idea what driver I need
[01:57] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: Any chance you can help me for a while to see with a different pair of eyes.. I have been trying to do this for a few days now
[01:58] <Paddy_NI> and I typically find what I am looking for :/
[01:58] <binni> MNichie: I'm using Alarm Clock 0.3.1 and it can execute a command when the alarm goes off, but I find it a bit weird to go into System Monitor to close the script started by alarm clock, better to just Ctrl+C in a terminal
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I hate to send you off on a hunt, but your best source of information on patched wifi drivers is backtrack-linux (BT4). Their driver collection and documentation is very thorough...
[01:58] <RealOp> So im attempting to upgrade from 10.10 32 bit, to 10.10 64 bit. If i select use entire partition does it erase my data?
[01:59] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[01:59] <tiox> RealOp: Maybe not?
[01:59] <bazhang> RealOp, only arch upgrade is full reinstall
[01:59] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I don't know enough to be able to help with that. sorry... BT4 is imho your best source.
[01:59] <tiox> Hey, is there a way he can do a dist-upgrade to a 64-bit version of buntu?
[01:59] <bazhang> RealOp, is your home on a separate partition?
[01:59] <bazhang> tiox, no
[02:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, I don't mean you should install it. But you can get info on whether there is a prepatched driver for that card
[02:00] <arve> Yo. Not strictly an Ubuntu related question, but imma try my luck: I recently extended my windows partition (gparted) due to lack of space and having an empty partition laying around on the same disk.  BURG seems to still be able to detect my win7 installation, but i get an error when trying to boot it up. Am i looking at a complete reinstall of windows here, or is that still preventable?
[02:00] <bazhang> arve, that is in no way an ubuntu question
[02:00] <bazhang> arve, try ##windows
[02:00] <Paddy_NI> Seven_Six_Two: that would be nice.. where should I go.. do  you know the name of the irc channel?
[02:00] <bazhang> Paddy_NI, #backtrack-linux
[02:00] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, #backtrack-linux
[02:01] <Paddy_NI> hehe
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> Paddy_NI, not a popular channel though. The website and forums for the distro are the place to go
[02:01] <tiox> RealOp: I heard if you reinstall Ubuntu and keep your primary account information the same, your home folder will not be erased at all, and you can still continue where you left off with a few simple commands.
[02:01] <Paddy_NI> okay
[02:01] <tiox> Can anyone here confirm what I said was right?
[02:01] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, that's true. Given that you don't select your /home partition to be formatted
[02:01] <dysruption_> is there a particular reason I cannot join ##java ?
[02:02] <Seven_Six_Two> dysruption, is your nick registered with nickserv? are you authenticated?
[02:02] <tiox> So to do this, he would have to make a /home partition and move everything to it, provided he went with a default install?
[02:02] <dysruption_> I guess not, lol
[02:02] <pfifo> tiox, if your home folder is on a seprate partiton
[02:02] <MNichie> binni: gnome-terminal -e command
[02:02] <RealOp> tiox, any more info?
[02:02] <bozotheclown> dysruption_: you have to be registered
[02:02] <bazhang> !home | RealOp
[02:02] <bozotheclown> dysruption_: register with nickserv
[02:02] <tiox> RealOp: You went with a typical, automated install right?
[02:02] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, not the default install. you would have to manually set up partitions
[02:02] <dysruption_> bozotheclown, how do I do that?
[02:02] <hiexpo> ? does ubuntu 10.04 use extlinux
[02:02] <bazhang> dysruption_, /join #freenode
[02:03] <Partmedia> All you need to do is make sure /home isn't overwritten.
[02:03] <bozotheclown> type /msg nickserv help
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, ext2, ext3, ext4
[02:03] <tiox> Well, guess what? If he went with a typical install, gparted would show no home.
[02:03] <tiox> It would just be /.
[02:03] <tiox> Oh, and some swap, I think.
[02:03] <pfifo> !register | dysruption_
[02:03] <Seven_Six_Two> tiox, that's right. the default doesn't create a separate home
[02:03] <RealOp> lol i was on psyhcocats last night
[02:03] <tiox> Hah.
[02:04] <tiox> Well, follow their instructions. THEN you can reinstall Ubuntu with 64-bit without worrying about overwriting home.
[02:04] <tiox> Otherwise, the other way to do it would be to copy home to an external deice, reinstall, then replace the contents in your new home from stufff in your old home.
[02:05] <tiox> Think of it like taking your prized possessions before bulldozing a house, then putting everything in the new house.
[02:05] <RealOp> okay ive decided what im gonna do
[02:05] <victorhugo289> Thanks @Rww
[02:05] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, not that  :) when i run bleachbit i get an error  Errno 1] Operation not permitted: '/root/.local/share/Trash/files/flash/boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys'
[02:05] <pfifo> tiox, tar and bzip are good for that
[02:05] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, is that a read only file in your trash?
[02:06] <tsnovo> como instalar driven de placa de som encore
[02:06] <RealOp> just repartition it so my new OS is at the begining of the partition, move all my 'old data' to another partition been wanting to do this for awhile anyways
[02:06] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, let me see
[02:06] <tsnovo> ???
[02:06] <tsnovo> alguem sabe como instalar driven de placa de som?
[02:07] <ljsoftnet> "PulseAudio Volume Control" could not be loaded. An internal error ocurred and the applet could not be loaded... what does this mean???
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, it's probably read only, and owned by root
[02:07] <Blue1> !es |  tsnovo
[02:07] <tiox> RealOp: Parted magic is a nice solution for this.
[02:07] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, aren't you using xfce4?
[02:07] <tiox> Look it up, burn it to disk, use it. It comes with gparted, uses LXDE so it;s lightweight and less prone to crashing in the middle of changing things.
[02:08] <tsnovo> sorry i thought that i was in ubuntu br
[02:08] <tsnovo> rsrs
[02:08] <RealOp> tiox, just gonna use gpartd thats on the installer cd
[02:09] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two,  yep
[02:09] <tiox> Alright RealOp, go nuts.
[02:09] <RealOp> up
[02:09] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two yes
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, is that just confirmation, or are you good from here?
[02:10] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, did you not have any luck with the mixer designed for xfce?
[02:10] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, well i have no problems was just wondering why it is in there  and does not selete does it have some special purpose
[02:11] <katsrc> if i wanted to try out GNOME 3 would i have to install a lot of dependencies?
[02:11] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo,   it looks like something moved after unmounting a usb key. did you try to set up usb boot?
[02:11] <pfifo> katsrc, im sure there are going to be some upgraades for that
[02:12] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, sorry. 'before unmounting'
[02:12] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, oh i do it all the time building usb's i kinda thought that is what it was but wasn't sure
[02:13] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two i have no problems with it but, i was looking for, the same kind of applet like gnome-volume-applet
[02:13] <Seven_Six_Two> hiexpo, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1091230.html
[02:13] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, oh I see. qmixer might work for you. It's alsa
[02:13] <blackbox> I use XFCE (sometimes) but I can not find my network folders on any other computers in my network. These folders were easy to find in GNOME, but I can no longer find them.Where would I find the network Servers in XFCE.
[02:14] <Seven_Six_Two> blackbox, what kind of folders? nfs? samba?
[02:15] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two you know the website for it?
[02:15] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, it's found in synaptic
[02:15] <blackbox> Seven_Six_Two,  samba
[02:15] <hiexpo> Seven_Six_Two, yup thats what it is nobig it can stay there not hurting anything
[02:15] <pfifo> blackbox, i dont think xfce has built in support for that in the gui, you would probbally have to mount them on cli
[02:16] <Seven_Six_Two> blackbox, there are utilities you can use, like smb4k
[02:16] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two its not there
[02:16] <pfifo> blackbox, perhaps use nautilus in xfce if its installed by gnomes side
[02:17] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, I got the name wrong. Try qamix
[02:18] <tiox> Anybody figured out my Wine problem yet
[02:18] <tiox> Because like I said, #winehq is bloody useless.
[02:20] <mladen123> hey guys i have huge problem with bootmgr missing and grub2
[02:21] <mladen123> alive ?
[02:22] <bmorriso> If I'm not using DHCP, can I uninstall dhcp3-common and dhcp3-client?
[02:22] <pfifo> !details | mladen123
[02:23] <pfifo> bmorriso, you should be able to, but make sure it dosent try to take something importan along with them
[02:23] <bmorriso> if I did an apt-get remove dhcp3-common dhcp3-client would it tell me what it's taking???
[02:23] <pfifo> yes
[02:23] <mladen123> hey guys, i cant fix bootmgr missing problem, no way to fix it
[02:24] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two can i run qamix as panel and adjust volume like a slide on the panel
[02:24] <pfifo> mladen123, what exactly happens?
[02:25] <Seven_Six_Two> ljsoftnet, I think so, but I haven't tried it in a while. I remember using it like that
[02:25] <kanji> post your conky RCs lol
[02:26] <mladen123> pfifo: well i installed ubuntu over win7 and somehow after long hours of trying i added windows 7 to grub.cfg
[02:26] <mladen123> but it says bootmgr is missing
[02:27] <pfifo> can you pastebin you grub.cfg
[02:27] <ljsoftnet> Seven_Six_Two can i install this http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/gnome-media/2.28/gnome-media-2.28.1.tar.gz
[02:28] <irrelephant> ok, so i am a recent transplant from windows 7 to ubuntu 10.1, so i have to ask a few question if yall can help a newb out...
[02:28] <pfifo> !info gnome-media
[02:28] <pfifo> ljsoftnet, there are official packages in the repos
[02:28] <mladen123> well my grub.cfg is not the problem i think
[02:28] <fatuous> i'm trying to use tar to backup my linux partition to dvd. ubuntu 10.04. should you --exclude=/dev ? that gave me an error. so did excluding the name of the resulting backup file. i used options cvpzf
[02:28] <ljsoftnet> pfifo ok
[02:28] <mladen123> pfifo: i think problem is i don;t know where bootmgr is ?
[02:29] <mladen123> pfifo: could have been that it was installed on some other partition not on my primary C: windows?
[02:29] <llilli> windows?
[02:29] <pfifo> mladen123, the windows boot stuff is on C:\
[02:30] <mladen123> pfifo: so why can't grub find it ? i added it manualy now bootmgr is missing???
[02:30] <mladen123> pfifo: i have no clue what to do next
[02:30] <pfifo> mladen123, have you ever had a working dual-boot with your grub.cfg
[02:30] <fatuous> is there anything other than tar that's good to use?
[02:31] <pfifo> fatuous, 7z is a trend and cpio is available as well
[02:31] <fatuous> thank you
[02:32] <aprigio>  #ubuntu-br
[02:32] <mladen123> pfifo: well not on this pc..
[02:32] <mladen123> pfifo: can i do something about bootmgr, like install it again witouth reinstalling whole windows 7?
[02:33] <pfifo> mladen123, pastebin you grub.cfg, ill double check for syntax and errors
[02:33] <pfifo> mladen123, im sure window has a rescue system but have no idea how or where to look.
[02:33] <multipass> what desktop enviromnemt is 11.04 using?
[02:33] <multipass> is it still gnome?
[02:33] <pfifo> unity
[02:34] <edbian> multipass: it is not gnome
[02:34] <mladen123> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/DWhNPCWq thanks
[02:34] <multipass> o really... interesting
[02:34] <multipass> why the change?
[02:34] <mladen123> pfifo: i cant do rescue with startup disc, like bootrec.exe /fixboot
[02:34] <mladen123> it doesnt work :(
[02:35] <janzert> I see the schroot man page talks about a union filesystem chroot and apt recommends the aufs-modules and unionfs-modules packages but packages are listed as not available in maverick. Is there a way to do a union filesystem chroot with schroot in maverick?
[02:35] <Nick_Meister> guys my firefox takes a really long time to open
[02:35] <Nick_Meister> i start it up and then nothing happens for a really long time
[02:35] <mladen123> pfifo: btw my windows is in dev/sda3
[02:36] <multipass> oh is unity what they use for Netbook Ubuntu release?
[02:36] <Nick_Meister> for all releases now
[02:36] <edbian> multipass: UNR is very similar to unity
[02:36] <Nick_Meister> since 11.04
[02:36] <Blue1> multipass: yeah that was in the 10.10
[02:37] <pfifo> mladen123, try cahanging it to (hd0,3) then
[02:37] <edbian> multipass: The new version in 11.04 is different a little.
[02:37] <mladen123> pfifo: tried that, but it says wrong signature..
[02:37] <Blue1> i heard that 5 of 11 users managed to crash unity
[02:37] <mladen123> is there a way to install bootmgr again?
[02:37] <multipass> do basically they are dumping support in next release?
[02:37] <multipass> for gnome*
[02:37] <Blue1> mladen123: hang on a sec
[02:38] <pfifo> mladen123, what happens when you try the vista option in grub?
[02:38] <edbian> Blue1: I heard that to.  But it's still in Beta
[02:38] <Blue1> mladen123: http://pkill-9.com/?p=314
[02:38] <mladen123> pfifo: its windows recovery mode, with lenovo.. so nothing
[02:38] <mladen123> bluel: looking it it..
[02:38] <Blue1> edbian: true but you'd think it would be "more debugged" than it is.  still it's better then what they had in 10.10
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1: You think it's better than gnome 2.X ?
[02:39] <Blue1> edbian: oh heavens no --
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1: You think it's better than the netbook remix unity from 10.10 ?
[02:39] <pfifo> mladen123, i think its simply just a misconfiguration, grub is not looking in the right place for bootmgr
[02:39] <Blue1> edbian
[02:39] <edbian> Blue1:
[02:40] <Blue1> edbian: yes the 11.04 beta release of unity is better then the 10.10
[02:40] <edbian> Blue1: agreed :)
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> i dunno about u guys but after using unity for a little while i gotta say
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> i hate it
[02:40] <pfifo> me to
[02:40] <Blue1> edbian: http://pkill-9.com/?p=703
[02:40] <edbian> Nick_Meister: haha, it's not for everybody
[02:40] <mladen123> ok thanks guys, i will try what bluel sent me.. who knows maybe it will work ;(
[02:40] <Paddy_NI> How do I bring the network interface "eth1" down?
[02:40] <Nick_Meister> edbian, if thats the case they shouldnt force us to use it, but they do :(
[02:41] <Nick_Meister> thats why kubuntu is my next upgrade XD
[02:41] <gimpy1382> I installed a second network card in a 10.04 box and now the first one won't even get a link light.  Tried swapping cables and such but only the second card gets anything.  Any ideas?
[02:41] <edbian> Nick_Meister: You don't have to use it at all!  Choose 'classic' at the session menu at login
[02:41] <pfifo> Nick_Meister, well they need to put something there by default, server already called no GUI, theres going to be a gunbuntu for us
[02:41] <Todd200> Will they make a Gubuntu with gnome 3? :p
[02:42] <kanji> anyone here play starcraft2? wants to play?
[02:42] <Nick_Meister> edbian, as it turns out classic also uses unity as a desktop decorator
[02:42] <edbian> Nick_Meister: really?
[02:42] <Nick_Meister> edbian, yah
[02:42] <Blue1> edbian: http://digitizor.com/2011/04/15/crashed-unity-canonical-study/
[02:42] <edbian> Blue1: That one I read this morning :)
[02:43] <pfifo> Todd200, yes its been announced
[02:43] <Blue1> edbian: k -- i have heard that 11.04 ships with unity as the default.
[02:43] <edbian> Blue1: it will
[02:44] <Blue1> edbian: choices aren't a bad things - wish they would let me choose
[02:44] <Todd200> pfifo: lol, I think that's amusing "sudo apt-get install gubuntu-destop"
[02:44] <edbian> Blue1: You can install the other desktops (they're all still packages)
[02:44] <edbian> I'm not sure if they'll have a gnome3 package (they should)
[02:44] <Blue1> edbian: ah when I tried that with 10.10 I was stuck with unity like it or not.
[02:45] <pfifo> Nick_Meister, its really easy to install something else, painless to have unity gnome and xfce if you wanted
[02:45] <Blue1> edbian: do you know if 11.04 will have gnome 3.x or?
[02:45] <policyq> wheres the STOP button in totem
[02:46] <Blue1> policyq: dunno but sudo pkill totem     will make it die
[02:46] <edbian> Blue1: 11.04 will have unity
[02:46] <Blue1> edbian: yes but will it have gnome 3.x?
[02:46] <policyq> Blue1: nah overkill i just need it to stop
[02:46] <pfifo> policyq, spacebar should pause
[02:46] <edbian> I find it hard to believe that Ubuntu is forcing people to use unity.  I believe it is the new default.  I do not believe it is impossible to switch.  Surely you can install xfce or KDE at the least!
[02:46] <policyq> pfifo: right though i need a stop
[02:46] <pfifo> pause and rewind?
[02:47] <edbian> Blue1: I don't know if there will be a package for gnome3  I'm looking it up right now
[02:47] <policyq> pfifo: nope to tedious and doesn't work on streaming playlists
[02:47] <policyq> *too
[02:47] <Blue1> hmm doesn't seem to be a stop in totem
[02:47] <pfifo> right click the video? maybe there isnt a stop
[02:47] <edbian> Blue1: unity uses compiz to decorate windows.
[02:48] <policyq> nope. aparently there is literally no stop buttom in a video player
[02:48] <atc3030> hey guys. i gotta friend needing help with getting a printer to work with ubuntu. hes new and ive never used a printer with ubuntu. would yall mind if he jumped in?
[02:48] <Blue1> edbian: i have compiz issues so stick with metacity
[02:48] <pfifo> policyq, file a bug report and mention it is causing problems with streaming media
[02:49] <edbian> Blue1: natty will have a gnome3-session package:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome3&searchon=names&suite=natty&section=all
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian
[02:49] <edbian> Blue1:
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian: omw (on my way)
[02:49] <edbian> on your way where?
[02:49] <Blue1> edbian: thanks
[02:50] <Blue1> edbian: to the link you posted
[02:50] <edbian> :)
[02:50] <linuxcandy> how to install gnome 3 in Maverick ?
[02:50] <Blue1> okay off to breakland......
[02:51] <edbian> !gnome3
[02:51] <Blue1> linuxcandy: might be tricky -- lib dependenceis and what not
[02:51] <Blue1> theres no place like gnome!  (and you can click your heals more then 3 times, if necessary)
[02:51] <linuxcandy> Blue1: how do I do that ?
[02:51] <linuxcandy> no place like gnome ?
[02:52] <crus> How do i install Python modules for the Python 2.7 install on ubuntu 10.10?
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: it's the gui that I choose to use.
[02:52] <edbian> crus: what module are you looking for?
[02:52] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[02:52] <pfifo> linuxcandy, i think there is a ppa for it, but if not, then compiling from source is always an option
[02:52] <crus> edbian: for instance i want to run easy_install on the 2.7 install instead of the default 2.6 install
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: i guess you've never seen the wizard of oz
[02:52] <linuxcandy> Blue1: is gnome3 not GUI ?
[02:52] <monaDeveloper> I'm having a problem with playing flash movies
[02:52] <Blue1> linuxcandy: mn
[02:53] <linuxcandy> Blue1: is that a movie?
[02:53] <edbian> crus: Have you tested it working in python 2.6 ?
[02:53] <linuxcandy> pfifo: link for the source please
[02:53] <monaDeveloper> I have dell xps m1530 and I use flash 10
[02:53] <ubuntu_recover> I'm having an advanced issue...w/ecryptfs
[02:53] <crus> edbian: yeah it works for Python 2.6, i did an aptitude install python_setuptools and that gives me easy_install for the 2.6 install but not the 2.7 install
[02:53] <linuxcandy> !gnome3
[02:53] <monaDeveloper> but the machine temp gets so high reaching over 90
[02:53] <Blue1> linuxcandy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/combined
[02:53] <dmoney> how do i set up a printer with ubuntu
[02:53] <edbian> crus: I don't think there is a difference...
[02:54] <monaDeveloper> any idea what should I do
[02:54] <pfifo> linuxcandy, well it would be at gnome.org, any ppa info would be there as well, you will probbally break your system installing it but theres no reason not to try if your willing to reinstall if things go wrong
[02:54] <Blue1> dmoney: System/Administration/Printing is a good place to start.
[02:54] <linuxcandy> Blue1: i ll see that :) for time being would you please tell me about gnome 3 ?
[02:54] <edbian> crus: Try to create a python file that uses that module and run it with python2.7
[02:55] <atc3030> what kind of printer dmoney
[02:55] <linuxcandy> pfifo: its not recommended to use ?
[02:55] <crus> edbian: thats the thing, the modules installed for Python 2.6 via aptitude, do not get installed for the 2.7 install :z
[02:55] <monaDeveloper> I'm having a problem with playing flash movies my machine's temperature gets over 90 degees
[02:55] <crus> edbian: for example, iv installed python-pysnmp-common and can use it from the 2.6 install but not the 2.7 install
[02:55] <Blue1> linuxcandy: http://www.gnome.org/
[02:55] <pfifo> linuxcandy, well there isnt an official package yet so its not really supported, more of a alpha/beta stage
[02:55] <ubuntu_recover> when I su into my user and run ecryptfs-mount-private  I get  You do not own that encrypted directory
[02:55] <dmoney> no duh blue1. its a cannon mp620 but my computer wont find it as a network printer
[02:56] <linuxcandy> pfifo: i see
[02:56] <Blue1> dmoney: well you didn't say that...
[02:57] <dmoney> Blue1: well now i did
[02:57] <drpi> So my usb mouse lights up, but won't do anything. Help?
[02:57] <edbian> crus: Look in /usr/lib/
[02:57] <edbian> crus: there are folders in there (for you there is probably both python2.6 and python2.7).  See if the module you're looking for is in one but not the other.
[02:58] <asdfasdfasdf> cool, no redirect to #ubuntu-proxy or whatever it was
[02:58] <crus> edbian: /usr/lib/python2.6 doesn't contain for example this pysnmp module..
[02:58] <edbian> crus: You should just create symlinks all around so that it works again.  Does that sense or do you need more instruction?
[02:59] <crus> edbian: when you install modules via aptitude where do they install to?
[02:59] <janzert> edbian: that seems like it will cause problems if any of those modules use C extensions
[02:59] <edbian> crus: Into /usr/lib/python2.6  (if the module is for python2.6)
[03:00] <crus> edbian: i cant see this particular module in /usr/lib/python2.6 or python2.7, but i can most definitely use it in python 2.6 :O
[03:00] <edbian> janzert: will they?  What other option is there?
[03:00] <janzert> they would have to be recompiled for the other version
[03:00] <edbian> crus: there might also be a generic /usr/lib/pymodules ?
[03:00] <janzert> python doesn't keep a stable api between major releases
[03:01] <edbian> janzert: Why is there not a package for each?
[03:01] <edbian> Oh I see
[03:01] <edbian> crus: Perhaps you should just use python2.6  ?  I program in python all the time.  Not sure there is even a difference between 2.6 and 2.7!!
[03:01] <policyq> Idea #18075: Movie Player (Totem) should have a stop mechanism
[03:01] <policyq> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/18075/
[03:02] <pfifo> good job policyq
[03:02] <crus> edbian: i want to test against 2.7 on ubuntu.. my script is running much better CPU wise on Windows using 2.7..
[03:02] <Khisanth> edbian: of course there is otherwise there would be no reason to do a release :)
[03:02] <janzert> http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/2.7.html
[03:02] <policyq> pfifo: no that's been there for months
[03:02] <edbian> crus: Then you have to compile the 2.7 version of the lib like janzert suggested
[03:02] <edbian> Khisanth: :)
[03:03] <crus> Yep.. so how do i use setuptools on the 2.7 install
[03:03] <pfifo> policyq, ohh haha, totem devs probbally thought they were being slick really
[03:03] <policyq> pfifo: ha too clever by half
[03:03] <policyq> =]
[03:04] <drKrane> Anyone use Antivirus software on Ubuntu?
[03:04] <Auriga> drKrane, I think some people do maybe..
[03:04] <pfifo> drKrane, well not on ubuntu but I have it on my usb recovery system
[03:04] <janzert> crus: you'll probably need to install setuptools into the 2.7 install manually
[03:05] <edbian> drKrane: It generally is not needed
[03:05] <crus> janzert: put the egg file in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages ?
[03:05] <janzert> or use ez_setup.py run with the python2.7 install
[03:05] <janzert> http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py
[03:07] <crus> janzert: thanks, I'll give those a go
[03:09] <pfifo> just curious now but do the official repos have virus scanning and or some hurestics in place to avoid accidents?
[03:10] <ss_> 这是中文聊天吗？
[03:11] <pfifo> !cn | ss_
[03:11] <Kai_> Hey, lahwran.  I just got the email.
[03:11] <lahwran> that was fast
[03:11] <ejsejs> Hey networking isn't woring at all
[03:12] <Kai_> Well I need fast help, to be honest.  This thing is really killing me.
[03:12] <ejsejs> Whenever you click on the networking thing, there are no options, even when it's plugged in
[03:12] <lahwran> Kai_: I sent you a privmsg, see bar at top of webchat
[03:13] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi....is copying to fat32 usb stick from linux suppose to be slow
[03:14] <iRockdolo> hello all
[03:14] <iRockdolo> pretty new to this IRC CHAT
[03:14] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yeah usb is pretty slow compared to internal hdd
[03:14] <iRockdolo> how does this work
[03:14] <Sivik> why would grub2 be installed on two different partitions and can that cause issues with not picking up windows on the second drive?
[03:14] <pfifo> iRockdolo, its like miltiplayer notepad
[03:14] <edbian> iRockdolo: hi.  You ask a question.  People that know the answer tell you.
[03:14] <KINGOFSWORDS> no i mean especially in linux
[03:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> its like 3.9meg a second....slower than 4xdvdr
[03:15] <ejsejs> Hey, my networking ins't working
[03:15] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, no, not in particular
[03:15] <iRockdolo> hopefully I will get the hang of this fairly soon
[03:15] <ejsejs> my friend told me something about editing a single file
[03:15] <ejsejs> it was really simple, but I can not find teh file
[03:15] <iRockdolo> so who is using ubuntu 11.04 beta 2
[03:15] <ejsejs> I forgot what it was
[03:15] <ubuntu_recover> hello..i'm stumpped can someone point me in the right direction?
[03:15] <KINGOFSWORDS> but usb1.0 should be quicker than 4meg per second surely?
[03:16] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, ohh, no 1.0 can be crap at times
[03:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> ahh
[03:17] <pfifo> 2 usually plays nicely
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> i just burn a full dvd and took 10 minutes...usb stick has same size and is like 15mins
[03:17] <pfifo> at the same time?
[03:17] <drKrane> is it a new install ejsejs
[03:17] <moonchild> hi guys... I've got a semi-random question regarding consolekit
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> nah separetly
[03:17] <ejsejs> drKrane: no, it just happened randomly
[03:17] <KINGOFSWORDS> more like 20mins
[03:17] <ejsejs> I don't have the compute rwith me, it's my friends
[03:18] <ejsejs> and the same thing happened to me
[03:18] <moonchild> ...is there a reason why console-kit-daemon has 63 running threads?
[03:18] <ejsejs> and I remember going to a file and changing a no to a yes or uncommenting something, drKrane
[03:18] <ejsejs> it as very simple
[03:18] <drKrane> Hmm...Don't know but when you have the computer come back
[03:19] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, I think there are some trick regarding DMA, but thats old stuff, probbally already in place if needed, but if you were so inclined you could research usb and dma and such a bit further
[03:19] <ejsejs> drKrane: I can get it right now...
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> any1 recommend a good virtual dvd prog?
[03:19] <iRockdolo> whats a good sight to learn the command line in ubuntu?
[03:19] <iRockdolo> site
[03:19] <iRockdolo> sorry
[03:19] <moonchild> does anyone here either know anything about cosolekit, or can they point me to a chat that might have people who can?
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> ahhh its only a 1 time transfer
[03:19] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[03:19] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, /join #bash
[03:19] <KINGOFSWORDS> but if i do again i will look thx
[03:20] <Jasonn> I get this error when running OpenVPN http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/ <-- Installed from deb from openvpn.net
[03:20] <edbian> iRockdolo: no need to apologize.  We're not supposed to say 'google it' but honestly if you just google 'linux command line tutorial' I'm sure you'll get tons of great tutorials
[03:20]  * moonchild nods at edbian
[03:20] <shcherbak> moonchild: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454
[03:20] <iRockdolo> thanks edbian
[03:21] <moonchild> shcherbak: thanks
[03:21] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bash+tutorial http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+command+line+tutorial http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+command+line+tutorial
[03:21] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, the first one being probably the most useful and to the point
[03:22] <pfifo> imo google is a valid resource if use correctly, even for new users and not so google-fu users if guided correctly
[03:22] <moonchild> that bug report honestly matches exactly what I'm seeing
[03:22] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, since 99% of the time you'll be dealing with bash
[03:22] <moonchild> iRockdolo: way back in the mid-90's I read a very good oreilly book called 'learning the bash shell'
[03:23] <moonchild> I highly recommend that if its still in print
[03:23] <iRockdolo> thanks
[03:23] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, don't bother buying a book, just go join the #bash channel and read http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[03:23] <abstrakt> iRockdolo, not sure what's wrong with the link i already gave :P
[03:23] <shcherbak> !abs | iRockdolo
[03:23] <moonchild> also, bash has one of the most comprehensive manpages in existance
[03:24] <jorell> hi
[03:24] <jorell> is there where I can get help with ubuntu
[03:25] <edbian> jorell: You're here :)_
[03:25] <shcherbak> jorell: Also, here.
[03:25] <moonchild> jorell: here!
[03:25] <jorell> awesome
[03:25] <ubuntu_recover> help please?
[03:26] <moonchild> ubuntu_recover: what's up?
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: What is the issue?
[03:26] <jorell> seems I don't know how to do a pm
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> i'm having a few issues..
[03:26] <edbian> jorell: Just ask here.  No need to PM
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> 1 i can't boot into my hd...
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: such as.... ?
[03:26] <shcherbak> jorell: /msg shcherbak HI
[03:26] <knightautwell> hey room whats up
[03:26] <moonchild> jorell: '/msg <nick> <message>
[03:26] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: Do you have ubuntu installed?
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> grub starts to load then stops...
[03:26] <ubuntu_recover> yes..
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> laptop is system 76, pre installed
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: vidia card?
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> yes
[03:27] <edbian> oh really?
[03:27] <trik> what is a system 76?????
[03:27] <jorell> Fair enough. Well, I'm pretty new to ubuntu, still working out the kinks
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> sorry on vidia..it's amd
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: pre-installed and it doesn't work?!  Call them!!
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> no..
[03:27] <edbian> trik: They sell computer with linux installed
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> had lappy for a few mos
[03:27] <trik> Oh thats cool
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: mhmm....
[03:27] <ddilinger> i am trying to boot my ubuntu system into single user mode.  Typically this would be done my adding a 1 to the kernel command line, but my grub never comes on screen for me to press right-shift
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> 3 days ago i added kde to play
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> reboot
[03:27] <ddilinger> any suggestions for booting into single user mode easily?
[03:27] <jorell> currently, I'm trying to create a wireless network that I can use for my wireless electronics to use
[03:27] <ubuntu_recover> and now nothing
[03:27] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: Can you get to the grub menu?  Turn off quite and splash so that we can see errors
[03:28] <jorell> that goes through my computer
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> nope..can't get in..
[03:28] <jorell> via my extra wireless adapter
[03:28] <moonchild> ddilinger: add init=/bin/bash to the kernel boot line
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> so i put rescue disk in...
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> of course i encrypted my home dir
[03:28] <ddilinger> moonchild: but the problem is i can get to the kernel boot line
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> as well..i'm a geek
[03:28] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: press shift during boot to make the grub menu show up?
[03:28] <pfifo> ddilinger, i think you can hold control to force the bootmenu up, maybe shift
[03:28] <bazhang> !enter | ubuntu_recover
[03:28] <shcherbak> ddilinger: What version is it? Pre 9.10?
[03:28] <knightautwell> hey quick question is there a way to make the banshee music player display lyrics to songs as a song is playing?
[03:28] <bastidrazor> i love the enter
[03:28] <ubuntu_recover> my bad...
[03:28] <ddilinger> moonchild: once there its easy, but my system never shows the grub menu when i hold shift.  not sure the number, its lucid lynx i believe
[03:29] <ddilinger> shcherbak: i think its lucid lynx
[03:29] <moonchild> ddilinger: I think if you hold down the shift key, you'll get a grub prompt
[03:29] <shcherbak> ddilinger: You think?
[03:29] <ddilinger> shcherbak: i just checked sources.list, its lucid
[03:30] <pfifo> perhaps they put syslinux on it?
[03:30] <ddilinger> moonchild: hmm, guess i'll try again holding the shift key, before i was pressing it repeatedly
[03:30] <shcherbak> ddilinger: sudo vim /etc/default/grub , and apdate grup after edit.
[03:30] <ubuntu_recover> 10.10 is what i'm on... but i can but into rescue, then have acess to hd..(on it now)...all i need to get is some pics of my children out of encrypted home dir then i can flatten, and start new..when i follow guides online for them i get You do not own that encrypted directory
[03:30] <ddilinger> shcherbak: perfect, thanks
[03:30] <moonchild> shcherbak: thanks for your help
[03:31] <jorell> so. Is there a program for ubuntu that'll let me use the desktop as a wireless AP?
[03:31] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: It's encrypted.  You literally cannot.
[03:31] <bazhang> !ics > jorell
[03:31] <shcherbak> jorell: You chipset need to support master mode.
[03:31] <jorell> I tried using webmin, but I did it wrong
[03:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> how do i put a file over 4gb on usb?
[03:32] <KINGOFSWORDS> is it fat32?
[03:32] <ubuntu_recover> ecryptfs-mount-private
[03:32] <edbian> jorell: Well yes.  But only if your hardware supports it.  I looked once and learned my hardware does not support it acting as an AP
[03:32] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you can not, fat32 does not support files that big, you can use a utility like tar to split it into smaller chuncks
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[03:33] <alpha> I want to install windows (dual boot) and I am wondering how one makes a bootable USB-stick with an iso-file. The "Startup Disc Creator" seems to work with ubuntu iso files only
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> is that on synapic ?
[03:33] <ouyes> how to search the file containing content "0x7c00"
[03:33] <ubuntu_recover> I followed these instructions: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html but i get i don't own them.. (useradd)
[03:33] <bazhang> alpha, iso of what
[03:33] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, tar is a cli program you already have it
[03:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> ah ok thx
[03:33] <jorell> I see
[03:34] <shcherbak> ouyes: cat <files> | grep <content> (use common sense)
[03:34] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: what don't you own?  Can you sudo chown those things?
[03:34] <KINGOFSWORDS> has it a gui?
[03:34] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, nautilus might have a suitable front end if you right clck and choose to compress/archive the file, but im not 100% sure if it will make a split archive
[03:34] <alpha> bazhang, I have windows 7 on an iso file (it's a legal version through MSDNAA) and want to make a bootable USB stick so that I can install windows.
[03:35] <alpha> *as an iso file
[03:35] <bazhang> alpha, ##windows please
[03:35] <ubuntu_recover> just did chown...did'nt work
[03:35] <Soares> ç/cllose
[03:35] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok...would it be better to make the usb a bootableusb...as it is a iso file
[03:35] <ubuntu_recover> sorry...
[03:36] <ubuntu_recover> did chown name and then ecryptfs-mount and that worked...
[03:36] <ubuntu_recover> thanks you all rock!
[03:36] <pangaea> hey all, i just upgraded from 10.10 to the 11 beta
[03:36] <alpha> bazhang, am using ubuntu and need help with how one makes bootable usb sticks in ubuntu (regardless of what the iso file is).
[03:36] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: no problem
[03:36] <edbian> ubuntu_recover: glad I could help
[03:36] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, yes if you format it as ext2 and install grub3 on it youll be able to boot it directly
[03:36] <xcc234> hello
[03:36] <pfifo> grub2*
[03:36] <edbian> alpha: use the usb creator.  Point it at the ISO
[03:36] <bazhang> alpha, that does not work with ubuntu tools. ##windows for support please
[03:37] <jorell> how can I tell if the adapter supports being used as an access point?
[03:37] <edbian> jorell: what is your chipset?
[03:37] <KINGOFSWORDS> would the usb work in windows if its a different format thou?
[03:37] <pangaea> i upgraded to 11 from 10.10, when i boot with the normal kernel i get a blank screen with a flashing caps lock key
[03:37] <pfifo> KINGOFSWORDS, you could also use NTFS im pretty sure grub2 can boot with it
[03:38] <bazhang> pangaea, #ubuntu+1 please
[03:38] <pangaea> thanks
[03:38] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok thx pfifo
[03:38] <shcherbak> jorell: sudo iwconfig <interface> mode master
[03:38] <alpha> edbian, I tried but it created a bunch of ubuntu specific files in the usb, such as "wubi", "syslinux" etc
[03:39] <edbian> alpha: It created an Ubuntu install only?
[03:39] <edbian> alpha: I'm not on an Ubuntu machine.  I don't remember if it has an option to choose another ISO but I thought it did.  Does it not?
[03:39] <bazhang> edbian, no
[03:39] <bazhang> edbian, specifically not windows
[03:39] <edbian> bazhang: ?
[03:40] <jorell> ebian: what do you mean by chipset?
[03:40] <edbian> bazhang: not windows?
[03:40] <FloodBot2> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:40] <pfifo> alpha, windows does not support booting from an iso without heavy cracking, we cant help you here, ##windows probbally cant even help, your best off to burn it to a DVD
[03:40] <alpha> edbian, as far as I can see, nope
[03:40] <bazhang> edbian, he wants to create a windows usb stick, which the usb-creator cannot do, nor is it ontopic here
[03:40] <edbian> jorell: Do what shcherbak said.  If you want to find the chipset look at the output of sudo lspci.  The chipset of my wifi card is BCM4306
[03:40] <edbian> bazhang: a-ha!
[03:40] <edbian> alpha: sneaky devil
[03:41] <alpha> pfifo, hmm, too bad
[03:41] <ouyes> how to search the file containing content "0x7c00"?
[03:41] <Jasonn> I get this error when running OpenVPN http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/ <-- Installed from deb from openvpn.net
[03:41] <bazhang> ouyes, you were just given an answer to that
[03:42] <shcherbak> jorell: try, to see hardware: lspci , see if you can find your network adapter on the list.
[03:42] <egypt> Hi
[03:42] <egypt> I want to install grub on dev/sda 12 ?
[03:42] <edbian> jorell: If the list is overwhelming you can pastebin it (paste.ubuntu.com)
[03:42] <edbian> egypt: That's a question?
[03:42] <alpha> I think I've found my answer: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[03:43] <Jasonn> edbian: lol
[03:43] <sam_> ah i need help - my monitor is really weird messed up looking. how do i reset the display properties?
[03:43] <ouyes> bazhang, no man , i put "0x7c00" in the search row, nothing come out
[03:43] <Jasonn> edbian: Have you ever installed openVPN??
[03:43] <edbian> Jasonn: no :(
[03:43] <jorell> edbian: thanks
[03:43] <sam_> my menu bar is on my left monitor which is all fuzzy, i only have my right monitor to workspace and i cant access the menu
[03:43] <edbian> Jasonn: Looking at your output.  Install those packages?  (sudo apt-get install iptables_openvpn)  ?
[03:44] <egypt> edbian ,yes
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: Can you look at this error for me? Its a networking problem.. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/595019/
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: I have to install that?
[03:44] <egypt> edbian ,yes That's a question
[03:44] <edbian> Jasonn: I just read that and answered you before you could even ask the question.
[03:44] <edbian> I'm good...
[03:44] <edbian> Jasonn: I'm guessing actually.  I think so yes.
[03:44] <shcherbak> ouyes: Have: cat <files> | grep 0x7c00 , give you clue how to get it?
[03:44] <Jasonn> edbian: Yeah, just saw that.. Ok, ill try that :)
[03:44] <jorell> edbian: I see the wireless, but it doesn't say a chipset
[03:44] <edbian> egypt: You need to install grub if you don't have a boot loader already.
[03:44] <Nick_Meister> hi guys through ssh how can i grab the contents of an xsession
[03:45] <edbian> jorell: What does it say for that line?
[03:45] <Nick_Meister> more towards how do i see an xsession in progress, so whatever the user has up on the screen
[03:45] <jorell> 04:01.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[03:45] <skullboy> how do i do this in gimp http://www.photoshoparchive.com/tutorials/liquid-blood-background/index.php
[03:45] <Nick_Meister> its important for me because i want to continue reading a comic from the bathroom ....
[03:45] <Jasonn> edbian: sudo apt-get install iptables_openvpn <-- unable to locate package
[03:45] <edbian> jorell: Your chipset is AR%001X
[03:45] <edbian> Jasonn: Lemme google
[03:45] <Jasonn> edbian: Thanks :
[03:45] <Jasonn> :)
[03:46] <jorell> AR5001X
[03:46] <edbian> jorell: yeah that
[03:46] <ouyes> shcherbak, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `|'
[03:46] <egypt> edbian ,   This is because I use Mac
[03:46] <egypt> edbian ,   This is because I use Mac Os
[03:46] <jorell> so... I google it and find out if it supports AP'ing
[03:46] <edbian> Jasonn: I found this: http://ejd021-linux.blogspot.com/2010/08/service-failed-to-start-due-to.html
[03:46] <bazhang> egypt, anything ubuntu related in your support question?
[03:46] <shcherbak> ouyes: sorry: cat */path/to/files/* | grep 0x7c00
[03:47] <edbian> jorell: Yeah.     I got mine from the website, not from the repos
[03:49] <edbian> jorell: a wifi ap ?
[03:49] <ouyes> shcherbak, is there a gui way to do this?
[03:49] <jorell> it's a business AP
[03:49] <jorell> yeah pretty much
[03:49] <AlexRamallo> go
[03:49] <jorell> it's mostly for big buildings and universities
[03:49] <bazhang> AlexRamallo, ?
[03:49] <egypt> edbian ,How to install grub on deve/sda12
[03:49] <egypt>  ?
[03:49] <edbian> Jasonn: I am out of my comfort zone.  I'm afraid I can't offer much more help :(
[03:49] <shcherbak> ouyes: Not to my knowledge. Are you searching logs?
[03:49] <Jasonn> edbian: Nah, thats alright, thanks mate
[03:49] <edbian> jorell: Why do you need your wifi card to share the signal then?  Just use that AP
[03:50] <jorell> well, I'm not sure how to make it work
[03:50] <edbian> egypt: I just said.  The Ubuntu installer should do it by default
[03:50] <ouyes> shcherbak, i just want to find a file contain some content
[03:50] <edbian> jorell: haha.  Does it have a web interface?  (do you have a typical home router with wifi ?)
[03:50] <jorell> edbian: negative
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: at least, I don't think so
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: it doesn't have multiple ports
[03:51] <shcherbak> ouyes: And do you know (more less) where it can be?
[03:51] <edbian> jorell: does it have 1 port?
[03:51] <jorell> edbian: it has 1 port
[03:52] <edbian> jorell: plug the industry AP into your router.  connect the computer to the router (through wifi or a cable) check the router's dhcp table.  look for the address of the industry AP.  Put that IP into your firefox address bar.
[03:52] <sam_> sorry can anyone help me with my monitor problems
[03:52] <ouyes> shcherbak, in my home dirctory
[03:52] <jorell> ebdian: oh, I see.
[03:53] <jorell> edbian: oh, I see
[03:53] <egypt> edbian , I will make the Mac's bootloader
[03:53] <egypt> Is the default
[03:53] <egypt> Therefore, we must install grub on its own partition
[03:53] <edbian> jorell: :)
[03:53] <shcherbak> ouyes: Gui: http://regexxer.sourceforge.net/
[03:53] <mama21mama> "I have 2 new bugs"
[03:54] <edbian> egypt: ?  If you install Ubuntu it will install grub automatically.  Please don't make me say it again!
[03:54] <mama21mama> bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/763089 bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/763249
[03:54] <edbian> mama21mama: In quotes no less
[03:54] <ouyes> shcherbak, ok now I know how to search thanks
[03:55] <Chubcorp> Does anybody know of a way to send emails automatically, I need to spam a spammer.
[03:55] <bazhang> Chubcorp, no of course not
[03:55] <bazhang> Chubcorp, dont ask again
[03:55] <hiexpo> regexer nice tool
[03:55] <ohsix> well people know, but they aren't going to tell you :]
[03:55] <edbian> Chubcorp: why don't you ask us how to identify your spammer?
[03:56] <bazhang> edbian, lets move on please
[03:56] <sam_> how do i change my resolution when i can't access the monitors menu
[03:56] <edbian> bazhang: ot?
[03:56] <Chubcorp> Ok, How do I identify my spammer?
[03:56] <bazhang> edbian, illegal
[03:56] <bazhang> Chubcorp, please stop
[03:56] <ohsix> sam_: xrandr is available on the command line
[03:56] <linuxtech> A couple days ago I had a power failure and my X just comes up with some funky colors for a second and crashes...  I tried manually running fsck.ext4, reinstalling kernels, xorg packages dkms, nvidia packages and a few other things, but it still screwed.  Any suggestion on how I recover this thing without just blowing it away and reinstalling?
[03:56] <jorell> edbian: where is the dhcp table?
[03:56] <sam_> once i get into the command line  what do i type? and how do i go from command line back to ubuntu
[03:57] <edbian> jorell: It's a list the router keeps of all the addresses it's given out.  THe AP should have an entry in the list.
[03:57] <hiexpo> Chubcorp, we do not promote nor teach that kind of behavior
[03:57] <Chubcorp> bazhang, I don't see the problem. Why is this wrong?
[03:57] <edbian> sam_: ctrl + alt + F7 to switch back to gui
[03:57] <edbian> sam_: IDK, why don't you log in?
[03:57] <pfifo> ohh thoswe aare natty bugs, and here i thought i might actually do something useful
[03:57] <ohsix> you can't control what people do with information, and your morality isn't theirs
[03:57] <sam_> what do you mean idk why dont you log in
[03:57] <sam_> log into command line?
[03:57] <jorell> edbian: yes, but... I can't find the lost
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: list*
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: Are you logged into the router?
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: yes, I am
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: It might also be called a DHCP table or a client table
[03:58] <edbian> jorell: What brand of router?
[03:58] <jorell> edbian: netgear
[03:59] <MarioMaster100> danieltux, is that you from irc.saurik.com?
[03:59] <edbian> jorell: attached devices ?
[03:59] <jorell> edbian: what do you mean?
[04:00] <jorell> edbian: desktop, ps3, and now the wireless ap
[04:00] <edbian> jorell: I'm guessing what to click based on forum posts I found:  http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=62237
[04:01] <edbian> jorell: Perhaps this is helpful to you: http://documentation.netgear.com/dgfv338/enu/202-10161-01/DGFV338_RM-08-17.html
[04:02] <dmoney> does anyone know how to set up a network printer? a cannon mp620
[04:02] <Cpudan80> dmoney: How is it connected to the network ?
[04:02] <bazhang> dmoney, checked linuxprinting.org database yet?
[04:03] <dmoney> its a wifi printer
[04:03] <mouse> What would it take to buy the license to a file format and make it opensource?
[04:03] <dmoney> no
[04:03] <Afteraffekt> where can i download Ubuntu 9.10
[04:03] <bazhang> dmoney, best check there first
[04:03] <syrinx_> mouse: why would you need to buy a license for something opensource?
[04:04] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, it is no more support
[04:04] <Cpudan80> mouse: money, legal expertise --- not on topic
[04:04] <itilious> anyone here been able to get starcraft 2 working with ubuntu/wine?
[04:04] <Cpudan80> syrinx_: He wants to buy it and make it open source
[04:04] <dmoney> thanks bazhang
[04:04] <bazhang> itilious, check the appdb
[04:04] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo i know but i need a file from it to make my headphone jack work
[04:04] <shcherbak> Afteraffekt: torrent?
[04:04] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, oh ok what file ?
[04:04] <itilious> bazhang, i did i just can't get past one of the terminal input commands :/
[04:05] <Afteraffekt> /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf
[04:05] <knightautwell> anyone know if theres a way to add site to the banshee music player extension so that it can find more song lyrics?
[04:05] <jorell_> hmm
[04:05] <jorell_> I think my client froze
[04:05] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, oh so you need the config file
[04:06] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo yea, the headphone jack worked in 9.10 but not in 10.10
[04:06] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, one seclet me see
[04:06] <Afteraffekt> hiexpo, ok
[04:06] <skullboy> how do i do this in gimp http://www.photoshoparchive.com/tutorials/liquid-blood-background/index.php
[04:07] <Afteraffekt> why is it tab lists the users in the chat, and doesnt cycle through them in the input box? bah
[04:07] <edbian> skullboy: There is a gimp channel :)  #gimp  (they might be annoyed translating photoshop into gimp for you though)
[04:09] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, looks like they removed karamic stuff, maybey try 9.04 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:09] <hiexpo> Afteraffekt, http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[04:10] <pfifo> wth i just tried that and got a 404
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> lol
[04:10] <Guest59149> hi all how do i make a name for myself?
[04:10] <bazhang> Guest59149, /nick newnickname
[04:10] <edbian>  / nick
[04:10] <Afteraffekt>  you /nick (nickname)
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> then
[04:10] <L1T> thankyou :P
[04:10] <edbian> L1T: hi
[04:10] <Magicka> Hello
[04:10] <shcherbak> HI
[04:10] <Afteraffekt> you /msg nickserv register pass email
[04:11] <Magicka> Can you guys help me out with my 11.04 Wireless Drivers.
[04:11] <jorell> edbian: I have searched every link on the netgear file
[04:11] <pfifo> ohh i was at old-releases
[04:11] <Afteraffekt> thanks hiexpo and again pfifo
[04:11] <jorell> edbian: and nothing says dhcp log
[04:11] <hiexpo> i just check the torrent and it is fine
[04:11] <Magicka> My 10.10 had my Wireless drivers in the additional drivers but 11.04 seems to not.
[04:11] <Afteraffekt> i hope this works
[04:11] <bazhang> Magicka, using 11.04 now?
[04:11] <Magicka> Im on windows atym
[04:12] <Magicka> atm*
[04:12] <shcherbak> Magicka: That would be still beta, so #ubuntu+1, but more details.
[04:12] <Magicka> i can use wired on my ubuntu 11.04 though
[04:12] <bazhang> Magicka, what ubuntu version
[04:12] <dmoney> printer: canon mp620 network setup. anyone knw how?
[04:12] <Magicka> I have Windows XP and Ubuntu 11.04
[04:12] <Magicka> IM on my windows xp atm
[04:12] <edbian> jorell: You're back :)
[04:12] <bazhang> Magicka, #ubuntu+1 then please
[04:12] <Magicka> oh ok
[04:12] <jorell> edbian: yup
[04:13] <edbian> jorell: there is definitely a way to find the DHCP clients connected to your network.  I suppose we could just guess.  What is your private address.  What is the router's private address?
[04:14] <jorell> edbian: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:14] <edbian> jorell: that's the router I presume.  What is your machine's IP ?
[04:14] <dmoney> can someone help me with a printer network setup. its a canon mp620
[04:15] <jorell> uhh... <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:15] <edbian> jorell: Are you guessing?  run ip addr in the terminal
[04:16] <jorell> well, that's what the netgear router said
[04:16] <jorell> I think I messed up my stuff earlier when I was messing around with webmin
[04:16] <pfifo> dmoney do you need a guide or do you have a specific question in mind?
[04:17] <edbian> jorell: ... your router told you the IP of your computer?
[04:17] <furtat> e ai gente
[04:17] <dmoney> pfifo: i cant get my computer to recognize my printer
[04:17] <jorell> edbian:  Address Reservation Table
[04:17] <jorell> <IP_ADDRESS> is reserved for the desktop
[04:17] <edbian> jorell: That is the thing we were looking for :)  That's equivalent to the DHCP table.
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: what is the address for your industrial AP ?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it only has my tower and the ps3
[04:18] <pfifo> dmoney, you said its wifi? did you do any configuration yet? try any forum threads?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it doesn't have the AP
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: Connect the industial ap to it?
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: it is
[04:18] <jorell> edbian: ;)
[04:18] <edbian> jorell: mmmm... Something is up with this thing.
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: so it would appear
[04:19] <dmoney> yea its a wifi printer. tried configuring but im new at this
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: I assumed it would connect to the router when plugged in.  Unfortunately I have to idea how to use it so we're stuck again.  What brand / model is it?
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: the lan button in front is lit, signifying it's connected....
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: Perhaps it isn't DHCP.
[04:19] <jorell> edbian: the ap or the lan router
[04:19] <edbian> jorell: the AP
[04:19] <Charbo> Can someone help me get ubuntu to install on my pc?
[04:19] <edbian> Charbo: What's the issue?
[04:20] <jorell> edbian: engenius senao long range wireless client bridge/ap
[04:20] <Charbo> i have an xfx mobo with amd 750a chipset and it doesnt seem to recognize the sata ports
[04:20] <Chubcorp> dmoney, I had a similar problem, you have to download the driver on the Austrailian Canon website.
[04:20] <dmoney> pfifo yea its a wifi printer. tried configuring but im new at this
[04:20] <Charbo> i can run it fine from the live cd but it wont access my internal drive, only my external
[04:20] <pfifo> dmoney, start here and if you run into any trouble, ask us some specific questions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersCanonPrintersCanonMP620
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: I'm just googling for a manual for the thing...
[04:21] <dmoney> pfifo, alright.  thanks
[04:21] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?
[04:21] <jorell> edbian: easier searched than found
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: what's the model number?  ECBXXXX ?
[04:21] <edbian> jorell: so far yes
[04:21] <Afteraffekt> 9.10 is taking a while to download hha
[04:22] <edbian> jorell: FYI  This has NOTHING to do with Ubuntu.  I think the ops are giving us the benefit of the doubt here ;)
[04:22] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, you could try a mirror
[04:22] <Afteraffekt> has 25 min left, ill live
[04:22] <Charbo> here is my board http://xfxforce.com/en-gb/products/motherboards/7series/750.aspx
[04:22] <Charbo> ive ran it fine on multiple other computers
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: yeah
[04:23] <edbian> jorell: I can't find it
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: I was thinking I should take this to my boss on monday
[04:23] <wizonesolutions> How can I make rsync sync recursively like with the --relative switch but exclude part of the source path up to a certain point? So that it doesn't sync /home/myuser/ and so on but just the main directory I want and below?
[04:23] <edbian> jorell: good call
[04:23] <jorell> edbian: my original question was only about the ubuntu/adapter used as a desktop AP
[04:23] <edbian> wizonesolutions: -r for recursive
[04:24] <Sivik> why would it be reading two MBR records when i'm trying to get windows added to the grub folder
[04:24] <jorell> edbian: which we determined was infeasible since it can't go into master mode
[04:24] <Sivik> grub menu*
[04:24] <jorell> edbian: but, thanks. For help with both. I really appreciate it :)
[04:24] <edbian> wizonesolutions: -F for exclude.  Look at the man page
[04:24] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Yes, I'm using -a so that is on there. However, it doesn't actually copy the parent directories for single files. Just any directories underneath directories that I specify. So halfway there, but not quite.
[04:24] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Ohhhhh yeah that might do it actually...for some reason I thought it'd exclude the file itself
[04:24] <edbian> jorell: I know.  I wanted to get the AP to work if we could but we couldn't.  :(
[04:25] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Will give it a try, thanks. Have been looking at the man page, couldn't figure out what I needed
[04:25] <Tux19> heyall
[04:25] <shcherbak> Uhm, looking for hardware lists, any format (for last 10-15 years).
[04:25] <edbian> wizonesolutions: I'm just reading the man page.  Try what I said but it's possible something more elaborate is needed
[04:25] <jorell> edbian: sure couldn't. It could be broken
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: Hopefully not.  It looks like a big ticket item
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: m'eh. Got it from work
[04:26] <bazhang> Tux19, hi
[04:26] <Sivik> anyone here good with getting windows to be picked upin grub?
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: pardon?
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: I work in a tech office
[04:26] <edbian> Tux19: let's talk here please
[04:26] <Tux19> just telling edbian i was on here
[04:26] <edbian> jorell: oh, got it 'from' work
[04:26] <jorell> edbian: well, i'm a work study at the I.T. dept of my university
[04:27] <Tux19> i woud but peaple has a problem with that
[04:27] <edbian> Tux19: hello
[04:27] <edbian> Tux19: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[04:27] <edbian> jorell: neat :)  Good luck with it!
[04:27] <LorgonJortle> Hey there!
[04:27] <jorell> edbian: I'll ask my boss if he knows, or if it's defective
[04:27] <jorell> edbian: easy to replace
[04:27] <edbian> jorell: :)
[04:27] <korejora> Hey, is someone available to inform me a little about dual-booting Ubuntu with Windows?
[04:27] <edbian> LorgonJortle: hello.  Ubuntu question?
[04:28] <edbian> korejora: people are here.  Ask your question and if people know the answer they'll answer
[04:28] <LorgonJortle> I'm wondering how I can change the size of the grip on each window's border. I find it very hard to grab them when resizing.
[04:28] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: Alt-F8 can help you.
[04:29] <edbian> LorgonJortle: different themes have different widths.  You can't change it wihtout changeing the theme.  System -> Preferences -> Appearances
[04:29] <edbian> Tux19: if you wanna chat why not join #ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[04:29] <LorgonJortle> shcherbak: That's great, thanks!
[04:29] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: In gnome, borders are there specific, you can use emerald (different decorator) to edit size of borders.
[04:29] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?..
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> edbian: I'll take a look at my theme and see if I can't change the size. Thanks. :)
[04:30] <Sivik> can someone help me with a grub issue?
[04:30] <shcherbak> *theme*
[04:30] <edbian> LorgonJortle: I'm not aware of any theme that lets you change the size.  I meant that some themes are thicker than others.
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> Ahh
[04:30] <Bite> I'm having constant issues with boot cds.
[04:30] <edbian> shcherbak: emerald is deprecated isn't it?
[04:30] <shcherbak> edbian: Emerald can.
[04:30] <edbian> Bite: What is the issue?
[04:30] <LorgonJortle> Ok. Alt + F8 is perfect for my needs, anyway.
[04:31] <Bite> I'm trying to identify the issue. It's either cd-r itself, writer, reader, or program.
[04:31] <edbian> shcherbak: Isn't Emerald deprecated or unmaintained or something?
[04:31] <edbian> LorgonJortle: oh good
[04:31] <shcherbak> edbian: Yes, it is, like many others usefull things
[04:31] <edbian> Bite: What is the problem more specifically?
[04:31] <edbian> shcherbak: which? deprecated?
[04:31] <Bite> ediban: Every boot cd i burn is somehow broken once booted.
[04:31] <korejora> Okay. I'm a little fuzzy on how partitions work, but think I have two NTFS partitions. One has Windows installed on it and has other files, and the other one is empty. Can I have Ubuntu "take" the empty partition for itself and format it into a more Linux-happy filesystem during the installation?
[04:31] <edbian> Bite: Details please.
[04:31] <edbian> korejora: yes
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: Say for ubuntu's cd, every time i boot to install i have an issue.
[04:32] <edbian> korejora: If you boot the live CD you can use gparted to get a very clear idea of your partitions
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: sometimes there's no taskbar.
[04:32] <edbian> Bite: Other examples?
[04:32] <LorgonJortle> Another: When Compiz is enabled, I find that menus (where I mouse over them, and they move further to the right) are unresponsive on the first mouse over. I have to, say, right click, mouse over the menu (same with main menu for GNOME), then move my mouse off, then back on in order for the sub menu to show.
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: other times their is a glitch when i am typing in the name.
[04:32] <c4ctus> is there any dedicated channel to JACK, or do i just ask here?
[04:32] <LorgonJortle> I've found that this is only when visual effects are enabled.
[04:32] <shcherbak> edbian: No idea, look quite deserted.
[04:32] <Bite> ediban: entering my username in the fields.
[04:33] <Bite> ediban: also; using xpud, my cursor is strange.
[04:33] <bazhang> Bite, uppercase or all lowercase
[04:33] <pfifo> Bite, try running the md5 checksum make sure you have a good image,and a good cd afterwards
[04:33] <Bite> ediban: their are some strange white patches on the cursors.
[04:33] <edbian> Bite: make sure your username is all lowercase.  That is a common issue.  The installer doesn't explain well.  The other problems just sound like a problem with the CD
[04:33] <edbian> Bite: you're spelling my name wrong
[04:34] <he1net> Gvim how did you set?..Thanks.I want to open multiple documents and titles in the top of the display.
[04:34] <Bite> pfft, i wasn't looking. i'm sorry. It's kind of the way i proccess information.
[04:34] <pfifo> !tab | Bite
[04:34] <edbian> Bite: no worries
[04:34] <Bite> So usernames need to be in all lowercase or uppercase? also, my current client doesn't support tab autocomplete.
[04:35] <edbian> Bite: They need to be all lowercase ( bazhang was asking if yours has uppercase letters in it)
[04:35] <pfifo> wow even mIRC does that
[04:35] <Bite> pfifo: I'm using webchat.freenode.net.
[04:35] <Bite> on an xpud deriv.
[04:35] <Bite> it's just a temp.
[04:36] <Bite> I think the issue may lie in my reader, as i've had faulty installs before.
[04:36] <Bite> I can't boot from my newer sata reader however.
[04:36] <LorgonJortle> No vertical split?
[04:37] <Bite> edbian: pfft, nevermind, i do have tab-autocomplete.
[04:37] <edbian> Bite: In my experience you can just ignore those quarks and install.  I think you got stuck because of the username
[04:37] <Bite> well, edbian, the issue may lie in the reader...
[04:38] <Bite> edbian: it's making strange noises.
[04:38] <edbian> Bite: Well then I agree!  It probably should only make regular noises
[04:38] <Bite> edbian: but i for some reason can't boot from my sata reader.
[04:38] <edbian> Bite: I have no idea about that.  Sounds like the motherboard doesn't support it
[04:38] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: To get tiling in gnome, you would want xmonad, or ride on gnome3
[04:39] <edbian> shcherbak: gnome3 does tiling?
[04:39] <Bite> edbian: i'll be right back. i'll test the cds on a different computer and see if i still have similar issues.
[04:39] <edbian> Bite: cya
[04:39] <shcherbak> edbian: Talking of famous vertical split.
[04:39] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Seems like I'd need a little script to do it, so given that it's more of an edge case I was curious about than anything...I'll just do it with several rsync commands
[04:39] <itilious> how can i find out the video memory available for my ubuntu?
[04:39] <edbian> shcherbak: I don't even know what that is
[04:40] <edbian> wizonesolutions: sounds good
[04:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there anyway to automatically arrange your windows in GNOME
[04:40] <edbian> wizonesolutions: the simplest solution is usually the best
[04:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Such as cascade the windows
[04:40] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: devilspie, one way to do it.
[04:40] <wizonesolutions> edbian: Yep, I'm guilty of trying to get too complex...all. the. time. But hey, I learn a couple things occasionally. Win some, lose some.
[04:40] <itilious> or how much ubuntu reserves of my MAIN memory for Video memory because i have onboard, where can i find this?
[04:41] <edbian> wizonesolutions: :)
[04:41] <edbian> itilious: I believe that is a setting in the BIOS
[04:41] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: hm, cascade, may be difficult in devilspie.
[04:41] <RoDiMuS-X> oh
[04:42] <itilious> edbian, is there no ubuntu utilitity that will show this?
[04:42] <edbian> itilious: I don't know.
[04:42] <LorgonJortle> shcherbak: I'm familiar with tiling. However, that's not at all what I was asking.
[04:43] <RoDiMuS-X> shcherbak: any other suggestions?
[04:43] <shcherbak> LorgonJortle: vertical split (you meant two windows, each occupying 50% of screen, in symmetrical fasion, right?)
[04:44] <pfifo> itilious, im not sure abot a utility, but if its available to the system as a readable stringit will be in a file somewhere in /proc
[04:44] <RoDiMuS-X> shcherbak: Doesn't Compiz Fusion already do that?
[04:45] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Not, really... Well Awesome window manager have few modes to deal with arrangement, but it is rather not what you looking for.
[04:46] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Compiz, maybe, never came across such plugin.
[04:49] <RoDiMuS-X> I found a site that says Compiz has a plugin but I cannot find one
[04:49] <NeedSomeHelp> Hi, I just upgraded to latest Ubuntu version, now the colours on videos are very blue/green'ish, how can i fix it?
[04:49] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: It is called "grid plugin", just considering installation ;)
[04:49] <bazhang> RoDiMuS-X, asked in #compiz yet? also apt-cache search compiz may have something
[04:50] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, what version
[04:50] <RoDiMuS-X> alright thanks guys
[04:50] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, 10.04. Have tried both with Totem and VLC, same odd colour schemes.
[04:51] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, 10.10 is the latest
[04:51] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, try disabling compiz, for one
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, how to disable compiz ?
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, what is compiz ?
[04:51] <NeedSomeHelp> bazhang, the colours were right in 9.04
[04:51] <Nuge> NeedSomeHelp, it's like Linux's explorer.exe
[04:52] <bazhang> Nuge, no its not
[04:52] <bazhang> NeedSomeHelp, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[04:52] <pcpower> more like aero
[04:52] <Afteraffekt> hey all, where would i find /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf on a live disk/
[04:53] <Nuge> Does anyone know how to get your wireless interface's mac address?
[04:53] <Khisanth> ifconfig
[04:53] <The_Anarchist> I am stuck between Fedora and Ubuntu, I'm wondering what you guys think the pros and cons are since you're the experts?
[04:53] <bazhang> Nuge, ifconfig ?
[04:53] <Diamondcite> Nuge: Try the "Connection Information" when you right click on the network icon?
[04:53] <bazhang> The_Anarchist, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:54] <EmuAlert> How quickly do applications get updated on the repositories? When can I expect to see firefox 4?
[04:54] <Nuge> Thank you bazhang and Diamondcite. Both worked.
[04:54] <bazhang> EmuAlert, now
[04:54] <NeedSomeHelp> fixed it, the hue setting was set
[04:54] <bazhang> !fx4
[04:54] <bazhang> EmuAlert, ^
[04:55] <wizard1> guys, i am having a problem with the ibus system icon, i have ibus-daemon set to launch on startup, but when i reboot, the icon doesn't show up in the system tray until i mainly shut down the daemon and restart it?  any ideas on how i can get the icon to work? ibus doesnt seem to function without the system tray icon even if the daemon is running
[04:55] <EmuAlert> Will that correctly upgrade my installation of firefox or install a separate version?
[04:55] <bazhang> wizard1, did you run ibus-setup?
[04:55] <MethedMan> how does one watch .ram files in ubuntu
[04:55] <bazhang> EmuAlert, it'll get the PPA version, which is fx4
[04:56] <wizard1> bazhang: yeah it even shows the show the icon in the systems tray as checked
[04:56] <bazhang> MethedMan, mplayer
[04:56] <Afteraffekt> wow i still cant find this file
[04:56] <MethedMan> bazhang: is there a specific plug-in that i need
[04:56] <MethedMan> bazhang: i prefer to use vlc if possible but the .ram is not working in vlc or mplayer
[04:57] <bazhang> MethedMan, the ubuntu-restricted-extras and possibly w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[04:57] <bazhang> MethedMan, works a treat here in both
[04:57] <DaGeek247> !medubuntu
[04:57] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Yeah I know it'll install the latest version but will it update the version I have from Canonical (keeping all of the settings) or give me a new installation?
[04:57] <DaGeek247> whats medubuntu?
[04:58] <huibuuh> hey, can someone help me with xmodmap?
[04:58] <bazhang> DaGeek247, its medibuntu.org
[04:58] <DaGeek247> ...
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> hey all, where would i find /var/lib/alsa/asound.conf on a live disk it appears that it doesnt exist?
[04:59] <itilious> where did the "software sources" go to in ubuntu 10.10?
[04:59] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, is your headphone jack working
[04:59] <bazhang> EmuAlert, keep all your old bookmarks and such? I'm not quite clear on your question
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> pfifo not yet
[04:59] <Afteraffekt> still trying to find that file
[04:59] <bazhang> itilious, in synaptic package manager
[05:00] <RoDiMuS-X> whats the option to turn on window preview when hovering over a unity launcher icon
[05:00] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, i mean right now, test it on the livecd
[05:00] <Afteraffekt> im not booted into live cd, guess ill pull a cd out
[05:00] <pfifo> Afteraffekt, ahh, well that file is autogenerated most likely
[05:00] <Afteraffekt> was my fear
[05:01] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Yeah. I'm wondering if it'll keep my bookmarks, addons and other settings despite being technically being an installation of a new package rather than an upgrade of an old one.
[05:02] <bazhang> EmuAlert, no idea, not upgraded as I dont use but a single PPA on my system
[05:02] <pfifo> if not then alsactr store 0 would generate it, if your headphone jack is workign then it would be useful
[05:02] <slakcphil> i have a t630 network printer and was wondering if it gets a device file in /dev so I could output error messages to it like an old unix box
[05:03] <slakcphil> i noticed it has a device uri in the gui config in gnome
[05:03] <Afteraffekt> pfifo making my bootable usb now, ill find out i guess lol
[05:05] <MethedMan> bazhang: i installed the packages app-install-data-medibuntu AND apport-hooks-medibuntu.  still not working.
[05:05] <n-iCe> hi
[05:06] <EmuAlert> bazhang: Huh, I'm not that desprate so I guess I won't risk it. Which bring me back to my original question: how long is it usually between when a package is updated by the developer and when it's updated in the official repository?
[05:06] <RoDiMuS-X> Hello n-iCe
[05:06] <shcherbak> RoDiMuS-X: Just tested it, nice, Grid stays.
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: Ubuntu updates all the packages at once at release time
[05:07] <n-iCe> can i install ubuntu in my blackberry?
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: so, 6 months
[05:07] <EmuAlert> edbian: Thanks
[05:07] <edbian> EmuAlert: yep
[05:08] <edbian> n-iCe: No.  It is not x86 ( you might be able to install linux on it though )
[05:08] <MethedMan> bazhang: i have 64-bit ubuntu and the codec file is for 32-bit
[05:08] <pfifo> EmuAlert, they might make ff4 a bit faster tho, its something users probbally want
[05:08] <bazhang> MethedMan, then w64codecs
[05:08] <edbian> pfifo: ff4 will come in natty
[05:09] <MethedMan> bazhang: yeah, what was i thinking
[05:09] <bazhang> MethedMan, the main thing is ubuntu-restricted-extras , and keep in mind that not all files will be playable (even in Mac OS and various versions of Windows)
[05:10] <pfifo> edbian, yeah i thought it might get a bit of priority
[05:10] <edbian> pfifo: I don't think it got any special treatment.  Not that I'm aware of.
[05:10] <bazhang> MethedMan, so there is zero reason to try installing realplayer, for example.
[05:12] <pfifo> edbian, i dont see a factoid for libsdl-ttf 2.10
[05:12] <edbian> pfifo: ?
[05:12] <RoDiMuS-X> Whats a good ubuntu news site?
[05:12] <MethedMan> bazhang: i am trying to watch lectures from berkeley cs61a.  do you know if realmedia metafiles work?
[05:13] <gaelfx> hey, I'm replacing my hard drive and I'm wondering what the best way is to copy my /home folder to the new hd. Is there a simple CLI tool that I can use to copy everything, including the hidden preferences files and whatnot?
[05:13] <bazhang> MethedMan, got a link?
[05:13] <edbian> !home
[05:13] <edbian> gaelfx:  ^^^
[05:13] <bazhang> RoDiMuS-X, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:13] <jiltdil> when i start ubuntu the screen was showing that udev 215 connection refused something like that what does it mean?
[05:13] <jiltdil> please tell me
[05:13] <pfifo> in comparison to ff's factoid... i had some bugs cause of outdated sdl-ttf but noone really uses it knowingly like ff
[05:14] <MethedMan> http://wla.berkeley.edu/main.php?func=watchNode&nodeID=1158&smil=1
[05:14] <gaelfx> edbian: my /home is already on a separate partition, I'm talking about copying it over from a different hard drive that has a separate install of ubuntu on it
[05:14] <bazhang> MethedMan, checking now
[05:14] <edbian> gaelfx: I don't understand.  You have 2 harddrives each with Ubuntu installs?
[05:15] <bazhang> MethedMan, works fine here
[05:15] <MethedMan> bazhang: what am i doing wrong
[05:15] <gaelfx> edbian: yes, that is correct. one of the drives is causing problems with my sata and I can't use a DVD drive when it is running, so I need to replace it with a different hard drive
[05:15] <MethedMan> bazhang: installed the w64codec no problem
[05:16] <bazhang> MethedMan, you have firefox open with mplayer?
[05:16] <edbian> gaelfx: dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdb1   (sda1 is the /home you'd like to copy, sdb1 is the partition you wanna copy it to.
[05:16] <MethedMan> bazhang: not sure if i have mplayer in firefox.  is it possible to plug the link into vlc?
[05:17] <edbian> gaelfx: Make sure you get the sda1 and sdb1 thing correct.  Those are just examples.  I don't know what the real partitions are.
[05:17] <edbian> gaelfx: also, make sure /dev/sdb1 is big enough to hold all the data in /dev/sda1
[05:17] <bazhang> MethedMan, it launches mplayer
[05:17] <van7hu> hello, how could I install bind in ubuntu?
[05:18] <erict15> test
[05:18] <bazhang> bot7425, hi
[05:18] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: sudo apt-get install dns-server
[05:18] <gaelfx> edbian: I prefer to do a fresh install on the new drive to make sure any quirks in the previous one don't find their way over, I only want the files from /home copied to the new drive, not a clone of the old one
[05:18] <stryakr> anyone using dwm?
[05:18] <MethedMan> bazhang: perfect.  thank you for your help.
[05:18] <bazhang> MethedMan, works?
[05:19] <gaelfx> edbian: and I need the preferences from my previous setup to retain things in Transmission and other such software
[05:19] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: could not find package
[05:19] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:19] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: 10.04
[05:19] <edbian> gaelfx: You have /home on a separate partition right now?
[05:20] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: Go to the Ubuntu Software Center, and search for GADMIN-BIND.
[05:20] <gaelfx> edbian: yeah, I always keep it on a separate partition
[05:20] <edbian> gaelfx: What partition is it on?
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: it's on the second partition of both disks
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: no encryption or anything tricky like that
[05:21] <edbian> gaelfx: What?  How do you have 2 /home partitions?
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: I have one on each install
[05:21] <gaelfx> edbian: two hard drives
[05:21] <van7hu> [V13]Axel: yeah, thanks
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: Are both installs the same version?
[05:22] <gaelfx> edbian: yes
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: What the heck is the goal here then?
[05:22] <[V13]Axel> van7hu: No problem.
[05:22] <gaelfx> edbian: I want to copy everything from /home on the old drive to the /home on the new drive
[05:22] <edbian> gaelfx: You wanna erase the /home that's on the new drive?
[05:23] <MethedMan> bazhang: it works but i have no sound
[05:23] <dios_mio> !compiz
[05:23] <Sample> is there a good music library/player program that I can run through a terminal (well, SSH, because that box has the speakers in my house)
[05:24] <gaelfx> edbian: if that's what I have to do, then I will
[05:24] <edbian> gaelfx: I'm not sure what the point of this is but dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdb2   should do what you want.  Does it make sense to you?
[05:25] <edbian> Sample: You can run any of them over ssh using X forwarding  (graphical ones!)
[05:25] <trix`G> Hi guys!
[05:25] <gaelfx> edbian: I guess that would work, it's just a byte by byte copy, isn't it?
[05:25] <edbian> gaelfx: yes
[05:25] <edbian> gaelfx: bit by bit I believe
[05:26] <pentester123> any good guides for ssh x forwarding?
[05:26] <trix`G> Does anyone know how to tell ubuntu to automatically activate my wireless driver when booting?
[05:26] <gaelfx> edbian: I'll give it a try then, thanks for the advice
[05:26] <edbian> gaelfx: sure have a good night
[05:26] <edbian> pentester123: I do
[05:26] <edbian> pentester123: you just do something like this:  ssh -X user@host
[05:26] <gaelfx> (daytime in the Eastern Hemisphere ;))
[05:28] <trix`G> This laptop has broadcom b43 wireless, which ubuntu detected and through the "restricted drivers" gave me the option to enable.  I enabled and all was well, except when I reboot wlan0 vanishes from the list.  When I hit the restricted drivers dialog it says the driver is install but not active
[05:28] <gaelfx> is there a decent guide for setting up apt-p2p in the ubuntu documentation? cause I can't seem to find one...
[05:28] <trix`G> how do I activate them, and more importantly, how do I tell it to activate them automatically when booting up?