[14:50] <alumno02> i havent sound in clients
[14:51] <alumno02> edubuntu gutsy 7.10
[14:54] <alumno02> help
[14:55] <alumno02> i have edubuntu 7.10 but i havent sound in clients, what steps i should follow to solve this?
[15:02] <GSK> VMware bridged mode, someone can help me ? To configure it on my laptop. I want to bridged vmnet 1 on eth0 and vmnet 2 on eth1
[15:03] <alumno02> i think everybody here are sleeping
[15:04] <GSK> i think too but you are not sleeping yet
[15:04] <GSK> so maybe you can help me ?
[15:07] <RichEd> alumno02: you using LTSP setup ?
[15:08] <RichEd> GSK: your problem is actually an ubuntu system problem ... not related to the edubuntu layer on top of that
[15:08] <RichEd> so GSK ask the question in #ubuntu ... lots of lively people in there
[15:15] <alumno02> yes
[15:16] <alumno02> riched, i succesully installed edubuntu, i have clients working with usb in clients, but no sound in clients but in server it worked fine
[15:17] <RichEd> alumno02: okay let me see if i can find a useful help page ...
[15:17] <RichEd> not also that the LTSP in edubuntu is the latest core LTSP that is developed & maintained by the guys in #ltsp
[15:18] <RichEd> so that is also a good place to ask for edubuntu LTSP related assistance
[15:18] <alumno02> ok, thanks, i'll ask inthere
[15:18] <alumno02> join /#ltsp
[15:18] <alumno02> lol
[15:21] <RichEd> alumno02: at first i thought you were laughing at me ... "his way to help is to send people to other channels with their questions"
[15:21] <RichEd> then I noticed your displaced slash in the join command
[15:21] <alumno02> i actually displaced slash, my mistake
[15:22] <alumno02> i have SOUND=true in lts.conf but isn't working :/
[15:25] <RichEd> alumno02: it's not just you with the problem ... see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600812
[15:25] <alumno02> ok, thanks
[15:28] <RichEd> alumno02: see /msg window
[15:34] <RichEd> alumno02: did you see the message
[15:37] <alumno02> yes i did, and i answer you too,thanks
[15:40] <RichEd> :) check your freenode server window ... it probably tells you that you can't send private messages if you are not authenticated
[15:41]  * RichEd got no reponses
[15:43] <alumno02> ok
[15:43] <alumno02> I answered as follows: hummm, i think x11vnc is for watch screen of thin clients remotely, and isn't related with sound, may be timma should check if her/his lts.conf have the "SOUND=true".
[15:48] <RichEd> okay ... i suggest you hang around in LTSP until you see sbnalneav / jammcq arrive ... they are good to ask
[15:48] <RichEd> they are on US time so will be in later i presume
[19:00] <alumno04> hi, i havent sound in clients, i use edubuntu 7.10 (ltsp5)
[19:01] <ogra_cmpc> alumno04, you should really mention that you run icewm in such a line :)
[19:01] <ogra_cmpc> all of the alsa integration is with the default desktop ... so i have no idea what to tel you for icewm now
[19:02] <ogra_cmpc> if you say you havent sound which apps are you referring to ?
[19:02] <ogra_cmpc> the swetup is in a way that it should work for all apps using alsa
[19:03] <ogra_cmpc> (including volume control with alsamixer)
[19:07] <alumno04> hummm
[19:07] <alumno04> but gnome is too heavy for clients
[19:08] <laga_> alumno04: the whole point is that gnome runs on the server
[19:08] <alumno04> in fact, is heavy for any server->clients architecture
[19:08] <alumno04> humm, so, if i run gnome in a client, sound should work ?
[19:09] <ogra_cmpc> you dont run anything on a client :)
[19:09] <ogra_cmpc> it all runs on the server
[19:10] <ogra_cmpc> only the display and input output stuff runs on the client, no matter what desktop you run
[19:10] <alumno04> yes i do
[19:10] <alumno04> i mean, i know
[19:11] <ogra_cmpc> but the error you posted to #ltsp looks more like a HW problem
[19:11] <ogra_cmpc> lets stay in one channel :) (over there)
[19:13] <alumno04> it seems to be a module problem (sis7019)
[19:28] <alumno04> i compiled the sis7019 but when i do "make install" i got "make: *** theres not rules to build.... - Stop"
[19:33] <alumno04> help pls ogra_cmpc
[19:33] <alumno04> i compile the driver with make
[19:33] <alumno04> *compiled
[19:33] <ogra_cmpc> alumno04, no idea, sorry
[19:34] <alumno04> now i got the .ko drivers
[19:34] <ogra_cmpc> i know the driver stopped working with the 2.6.16 kernel
[19:34] <ogra_cmpc> well, to try you can copy them into the module tree manually and run depmod -a
[19:34] <ogra_cmpc> (in the chroot)
[19:35] <alumno04> uhmmm
[19:35] <alumno04> ok, then now i do chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 right?
[19:35] <alumno04> no, just copy the module into it
[19:35] <ogra_cmpc> then you need to regenrate the initramfs and make ltsp copy the that in place
[19:36] <ogra_cmpc> copy it to /opt/ltsp/i386/tmp
[19:36] <ogra_cmpc> then chroot
[19:36] <alumno04> do i need just the .ko files?
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> then copy it in the right place and run depmod -a and update-initramfs -u (in that order)
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> the .ko should suffice
[19:37] <alumno04> ok, thanks a lot
[19:37] <alumno04> a LOT
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> exit the chroot and run sudo ltsp-update-kernels
[19:37] <ogra_cmpc> thats it
[19:38] <alumno04> before all steps do i have to backup anything or they are safe?
[19:38] <ogra_cmpc> well, remove th e.ko file and run the depmod, update-initramfs and ltsp-update-kernels trio again to revert it :)
[19:39] <ogra_cmpc> but if you care cp -a /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/i386.bak
[19:39] <ogra_cmpc> (with sudo indeed)
[19:40] <alumno04> ok, thanks
[19:42] <alumno04> im chrooted. Now, which should be the right place to put the modules?
[19:42] <alumno04> i though should be /usr/src but inthere there's nothing
[19:47] <alumno04> ok, i did it :)
[19:48] <alumno04> now i'll do    depmod -a and update-initramfs -u
[19:48] <alumno04> wow... errors...
[19:49] <alumno04> i did:           /tmp# cp * /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-386/kernel/sound/
[19:49] <alumno04> and then:   depmod -a
[19:50] <alumno04> but i got:      WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic: No such file or directory  :S
[19:58] <RichEd> == edubuntu / education meeting in #ubuntu-meeting == 3 mins
[19:59] <ogra_cmpc> RichEd, you hope, eh ?
[19:59] <RichEd> ogra ... do you mean probloem 1 = attendees or problem 2 = platform team running into our time ?
[20:00]  * RichEd gets coffee
[20:00] <ogra_cmpc> QA
[20:00] <ogra_cmpc> platform was "tonight" at 07:00 UTC (yawn)
[20:01]  * stgraber waves
[20:01] <RichEd> Platform Team Meeting * Start: 19:00 * End: 20:00 <- daswwatts fridge ses
[20:01]  * RichEd waves back
[20:02] <ogra_cmpc> RichEd, fridge is wrong
[20:03] <ogra_cmpc> (at least i think i didnt dream that i got up after 5h sleep ...)
[20:04] <alumno04> ogra_cmpc:  when i do depmod -a i got an error:   WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic: No such file or directory
[20:04] <alumno04> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory
[20:25] <daishujin> hey guys, are the logs of the meetings posted anywhere?
[20:26] <stgraber> !logs | daishujin
[20:26] <ubotu> daishujin: Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ - See also « /msg ubotu ircstats »
[20:26] <daishujin> that's twice that bot has nailed me
[20:27]  * daishujin stuffs some straw back up his sleeve


[10:54] <hjd> I wonder why http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/efl.html is not in Ubuntu. I didn't find it listed in the sync blacklist.
[11:02] <ogra_`> hjd, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/efl ... seems it didnt build on all arches
[13:36] <cjwatson> hjd: should be heading into the archive nowish; it wasn't synced earlier IIRC because it overwrote some Ubuntu-modified binaries elsewhere and so required manual attention
[13:39] <mitya57> Hmm, can somebody explain me why xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy precise upload (which I just sponsored) is in NEW?
[13:47] <cjwatson> LP's ancestry calculation is buggy for things introduced post-release
[13:48] <cjwatson> Makes little practical difference though whether it's in NEW or UNAPPROVED
[13:52] <mitya57> Thanks cjwatson.
[13:54] <hjd> ogra_`: cjwatson: Ok, I see.
[16:46] <andrewrk> how does one get a package to go from "proposed" to accepted in the next release?
[16:52] <cjwatson> andrewrk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ProposedMigration is probably what you're looking for
[16:52] <cjwatson> andrewrk: What package?
[16:52] <andrewrk> cjohnston, I'm looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/libgroove  but I realized that the answer is probably because it is waiting for libav10.1
[16:54] <cjwatson> andrewrk: Yes, that's right, it's in that very large cluster
[16:54] <andrewrk> is anything blocking libav10, by the way?
[16:54] <cjwatson> Yes, a ton of stuff
[16:55] <cjwatson> If nothing were blocking it it would go in automatically
[16:55] <cjwatson> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/libav10.html
[16:56] <andrewrk> why does this look so different than https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libav10.html ?
[16:57] <cjwatson> andrewrk: Various reasons; in some cases we may just need no-change rebuilds; in some cases we have Ubuntu deltas that need merging; in some cases the package fails to build in Ubuntu and doesn't in Debian for some reason unrelated to libav; in some cases we may have fixed something in Ubuntu and forwarded the change to Debian but it hasn't been applied there yet
[16:57] <cjwatson> All the usual things
[16:58] <andrewrk> ah interesting
[17:30] <andrewrk> it seems like there's nothing else to do on that transition, and we're pretty much waiting on package maintainers to upload new versions
[17:31] <cjwatson> Those are contradictory :-)
[17:31] <cjwatson> There's plenty left to do on that transition, exactly involving uploading fixes ...
[17:33] <andrewrk> but I think all the fixes have been coded
[17:34] <andrewrk> e.g. no mysteries left, just waiting for some chores
[17:34] <cjwatson> That's not at all obvious
[17:35] <andrewrk> I may very well be misunderstanding the situation. Here's one thing I'm looking at: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=739079  at the bottom it says the debian transition is at 100% and all that is left is to remove old libraries from testing
[17:35] <cjwatson> I just fixed renpy, for example, which was not a matter of uploading a new upstream version
[17:35] <andrewrk> ah
[17:35] <cjwatson> You're misunderstanding the situation
[17:35] <cjwatson> Debian and Ubuntu aren't the same
[17:35] <cjwatson> And it doesn't always follow that if Debian has ported everything that that means Ubuntu only has chores left to do
[17:36] <cjwatson> Anyway, it's more productive for me to fix things than to argue about semantics, I guess :)
[17:36] <andrewrk> yes, apologies
[17:37] <andrewrk> really, I'm just excited that progress is being made, thanks for your contributions to the effort.
[17:37] <cjwatson> vtk isn't obvious either, hmm
[17:37] <cjwatson> Possibly a link order issue, but unfortunately cmake is not very verbose here
[17:38] <andrewrk> make VERBOSE=1  ?
[17:38] <cjwatson> Yeah, just not in the packaging
[17:38] <andrewrk> ah
[17:38] <cjwatson> I'll poke it locally
[17:39] <cjwatson> libav is often a case where Ubuntu requires more work than Debian because for historical reasons we have a chunk of extra multimedia-related packages which haven't tended to be excellently maintained
[17:39] <andrewrk> I see - Debian is removing things and Ubuntu continues to support them?
[17:39] <cjwatson> Debian never had them in the first place
[17:39] <andrewrk> ah
[17:39] <cjwatson> We imported a load of stuff from debian-multimedia.org back in the day
[17:40] <cjwatson> I thought it was a bad idea at the time but lost the argument :)
[17:43] <cjwatson> I'll probably end up demoting some things to utopic-proposed (equivalent of removing from testing) that aren't fixed in Debian and are hard to fix, but I'd prefer to wait until everything else that can reasonably be done has been done
[17:45] <andrewrk> I'm wondering if libav10 is likely to make it into utopic
[17:45] <cjwatson> Yes
[17:45] <cjwatson> Practically certain, we'll get it sorted
[17:45] <andrewrk> Glad to hear that :)
[17:45] <cjwatson> It would be far too painful for us to abort now
[17:45] <cjwatson> And there's plenty of time
[17:46] <andrewrk> Well. DebianImportFreeze is August 7, which is my cutoff date for getting the package I'd like to see in Utopic into Debian Unstable
[17:47] <cjwatson> Sure, but (a) that's still plenty of time (b) that's not a cut-off date for finishing migrations from utopic-proposed to utopic
[17:47] <andrewrk> understood
[17:47] <cjwatson> All that means is that I turn off the auto-sync cron job on that date
[17:47]  * andrewrk nods
[17:50] <cjwatson> Riddell: Could you please merge opencv, or would you like me to do it?
[17:51] <cjwatson> Riddell: (for libav)
[17:56] <zyga> anyone in Budapest today?
[19:14] <ari-tczew> can someone help with FTBFS? "dh_doxygen: Doxygen documentation not found"
[19:15] <ari-tczew> however, only i386 builds fine, the rest archs are FTBFS
[19:18] <cjwatson> Suggests that something's in Build-Depends-Indep when it should be in Build-Depends
[19:21] <ari-tczew> cjwatson: there are no B-D-Indep :(
[19:28] <jtaylor> if dh_doxygen is like dh_sphinxdoc you must not call it during binary-arch
[21:34] <Riddell> cjwatson: I'll take a look
[21:45] <ari-tczew> jtaylor: dropping it from d/rules fixes FTBFS, thanks!
[21:50] <ScottK> ari-tczew: Does dropping it from b-d mean the documentation doesn't get rebuild now?
[22:10] <cjwatson> Riddell: ta
[22:40] <ari-tczew> ScottK: it has not been dropped from b-d, merely from d/rules
[22:40] <ScottK> OK.  The question stands.
[22:41] <cjwatson> There's an "override_dh_sphinxdoc-arch:" (no rule content) idiom that's used in some dh_sphinxdoc packages
[22:43] <ScottK> That would probably be better.
[22:43] <jtaylor> if its even the issue
[22:43] <jtaylor> I was just guessing, that sphinxdoc does not work in indep is probably just a bug
[22:54] <infinity> Erm, that was fixed.
[22:55] <infinity> Oh, sphinxdoc was fixed, dh_doxygen has the same bug?
[23:13] <cjwatson> siretart: Hm, shouldn't libavfilter-dev depend on the right -dev packages to match the Requires.private entry in its .pc file?
[23:13] <cjwatson> siretart: Seems odd that something that requires libavfilter apparently has to independently b-d on libavresample-dev ...
[23:22] <cjwatson> infinity: Could you merge xbmc for libav 10 support?  (Or let me know and I can do it)
[23:23] <infinity> cjwatson: Meh, my TIL was just a rebuild, go nuts. :P
[23:23] <cjwatson> infinity: OK, will do, thanks
[23:24] <infinity> Those weird "nexus7" patches sound a lot more like "armhf" patches.


[06:19] <Tmmmi> Hello!
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> hey Tmmmi
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: if your interested to test xenial its already possible
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: but keep in mind system can still break in this stage
[06:20] <Tmmmi> Nop, I am waiting for 16.04 final.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> Tmmmi: like you wish
[06:32] <CryptoSiD> final isnt due before april right?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: april 21
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: but 31 december 2015, alpha stage
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: im running xenial right now, pretty stable already
[06:34] <CryptoSiD> yep same, hope it never break tho:)
[06:34] <CryptoSiD> cause i run it on my main vm:D
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> CryptoSiD: :p
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:10] <elhoir> (im stuck with OpenGL 3.3 because of llvm3.6 running) :-/
[13:10]  * elhoir wants to know how to get llvm3.7 running
[14:47] <linuxhp> hi frnds
[14:49] <linuxhp> shall we discuss about ubuntu os
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | linuxhp
[14:51] <linuxhp> i use #ubuntu they only said tojoin #ubuntu+1.so that only i joined.
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: this is for xenial support, not reall a discussion channel
[14:52] <linuxhp> may i know what these people discuss in this #ubuntu+1
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: we dont discuss here, but support problems
[14:53] <linuxhp> yeah..ok  iam sorry
[14:54] <linuxhp> yesterday i use ubuntu 16.04 os .....this  come only next year.but they release os now
[14:54] <linuxhp> may i know why
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: its the development branch, to test and file bugs
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: its still be working on
[14:55] <linuxhp> is this permanent os ?
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: what do you mean with 'permament'?
[14:56] <linuxhp>  sry i mean is this os is able to use now?  is any update come next year?
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: you can use this Os for testing right now, and receive updates
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: but keep in mind things can still break in this stage
[14:58] <linuxhp> you mean its not safer in this time .until complete..
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> linuxhp: yes final version is safer
[15:15] <nicomachus> rotate-able unity launcher coming down the pipe? http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-let-users-move-the-unity-launcher-at-the-bottom-of-the-screen-498000.shtml
[15:18] <linuxhp> oh thanky you lotusapsychje
[15:36] <linuxhp> is completing the test of os 16.04 iso, they release os which is same to that i download yesteray or else i download again.
[16:04] <curlyfrustrated> *sigh*  greetings, all
[16:04] <curlyfrustrated> hello, TJ-
[16:05] <curlyfrustrated> TJ-:  I have install LTS 14.04.2 about 6 times, now, adn each time it has failed to boot, with a different error reported each time.  I have used the same hardware and the same install options each time.
[16:06] <curlyfrustrated> the only person who had any relevant knowledge parted from #ubuntu
[16:10] <curlyfrustrated> rats, he's AFK, apparently
[16:23] <curlyfrustrated> AFK
[18:36] <curlyeras> hi, TJ-
[18:36] <curlyeras> anyone in here actually here?
[18:41] <BluesKaj> curlyeras,yes
[18:59] <curlyeras> BlueKaj:   I have installed LTS14.04.2 8 tmies now, using the same CD, same hardware, same options.  Each time the install completes without error, and prompts me for a restart.  Everu time, it fails, each time with a different error message and result.   I am totally baffled.
[19:00] <curlyeras> Some have suggested it is because I am using a 3TB drive, but if 14.04.2 has problesm with drives that large, wouldn't the installer complain?\
[19:01] <curlyeras> I should clarify, they fail to boot, with different reasons\
[19:03] <damascene> curlyeras, I think this channel is for the coming Ubuntu 16.04
[19:03] <curlyeras> BluesKaj:   what sorts of blues do you prefer
[19:03] <curlyeras> ?
[19:04] <damascene> anyway you should specify which error are you exactly seeing on screen
[19:07] <curlyeras> damascene: I am aware.  There have been a few, notably TJ-, who have helped me here, when the #ubuntu hannal has no one who knows
[19:07] <curlyeras> damascene: how can I specify which error I am gettting?  It is different every time
[19:08] <curlyeras> compaints about "inappropriate magic", necessary files not being present, and  now, it is dropping me into grub
[19:09] <curlyeras> I have no way to copy-paste them becsue when they happen I have no capture tool available, as I have no running OS
[19:10] <curlyeras> drops me into grop acter complaing about inappropriate mage
[19:10] <curlyeras> s/ grop acter/grub after/
[19:11] <curlyeras> s/mage/magic
[19:11] <damascene> I do not think it's easy to help you if you did not specify what is the error
[19:11] <damascene> did you try any other version of Ubuntu?
[19:12] <curlyeras> damascene: if you like, I'll reboot, and write the entire messga ee out on papaer, then reboot agaibn, and return here to type it ibn (one line at a time) (about 3 lines)
[19:12] <curlyeras> I have no other version of ubuntu.  this is on a DVD I createddI created in late 2014
[19:12] <damascene> if it's the same message every time that will help. but you are saying it's different every time. Any way providing the message would be better than no providing any thing
[19:13] <curlyeras> it's different every time I INSTALL it.
[19:13] <curlyeras> I haven't re-install since the prior fILURE, SO THE ERROR WILL BE THE SAME
[19:13] <curlyeras> oops, sowwy for the caps
[19:14] <damascene> did you run disk check to verify the integrity of the DVD?
[19:14] <damascene> *DVD check
[19:15] <curlyeras> how do I run DVD check?  I haven't heard of this tool
[19:17] <damascene> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[19:17] <curlyeras> and can I run it while I am booted up on it in  Live CD modwe?
[19:17] <damascene> I think so
[19:18] <curlyeras> oops, I jusr realized I mistyped my nick again  *blush*
[19:18] <curlyeras> so, how do I run it?
[19:18] <damascene> read the link
[19:19] <curlyeras> *wow*  there are CHANNELS of Freenode with 1800+ user...EFnet typically ran a total of about 2200 user on the total network, and there were HUNDREDS f channels
[19:21] <curlyeras> OK, I'll go try that, but it requires me to reoot
[19:21] <curlyeras> \reboot
[19:21] <curlyeras> dowwy, didn't see the link come through, found it, read iot.  Thanks
[19:24] <BluesKaj> curlyeras, I play drums in a blues/rock band, hence the nick
[19:27] <penguin42> he's been fighting that for days now
[19:28] <Curlyears> Well, the instructions for accessing ghe chek DVD menu which are written on that page do not work.  I have never seen this menu.  How do I access it?
[19:30] <Curlyears> at least, they don't seem to work here.  First I tried with holding the "space" key down.  No joy.  Then I tried holding ghe " M" key down, still no joy.  )-:
[19:31] <Curlyears> thw instructions said reboot from the CD, and hold "any ley" down while booting from the CD (DVD in this case)
[19:32] <Curlyears> hi, penguin42slightly different problems today
[19:33] <Curlyears> can you boot from  Blu-ray disk?
[19:33]  * penguin42 has never tried, don't have one
[19:37] <BluesKaj> who needs bluray ;-)
[19:37]  * lotuspsychje has mede8er 1080p mediaplayer
[19:38] <Curlyears> BluesKaj:   don't need to boot from Blu-ray, just wondering if it's doable
[19:38] <genii> I have one in my laptop I used in 2008 and not since
[19:38] <genii> Yes, it is
[19:38] <Curlyears> hey, genii
[19:38] <Curlyears> be right back
[19:38]  * genii waves
[19:39] <BluesKaj> Curlyears, just needs to be bootable
[19:39] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, vlc does the job here
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> vlc to the rescue
[19:54] <curlyears> well, it's not the DVD, I ran the disk verifcation, and it passes with no errors reported.  SO verystrange
[19:56] <curlyears> genii:   do you have a little time?
[19:58] <curlyears> I have cycled through installing and trying to reboot 8 times  Same hardware, same DVD, same options chosen, but every time  it fails to boot, and reports differing errors annd results.. Sometime, it hangs. sometimes it drops me into grub, other times it compalins about initramfs  and dies
[20:00] <curlyears> could it be that 14.04.2 LTS can't handle very large drives (mine is 3TB, which I have been trying to installl as a single large partition).  Wouldn't the installer issue some sort of error message?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: why do you keep saying 14.04.2
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> you need to update your system
[20:01] <BluesKaj> or the OS image
[20:02] <curlyears> lotuspsychje:   to be certain that everyone understands which system I am working with, of course
[20:02] <curlyears> I have to get it installed, before I can update it
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: install 14.04.3 image as BluesKaj say
[20:03] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: can I d/l and burn a new DVD while booted in Live CD mode?
[20:03] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: dont you have a spare usb?
[20:03] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: :   yeah.   burn it to that?
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: make an usb with disk creator yes
[20:04] <BluesKaj> curlyears, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/trusty/daily-live/current/
[20:04] <curlyears> ok...off to do that, then
[20:05] <curlyears> "make a USB" ??   I have onne with an FS already moutne
[20:05] <curlyears> mounted
[20:05] <curlyears> and what is disk creator?
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> startup disk creator
[20:06] <curlyears> I made this DVD by buring the .iso to the drive in bootable mode
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> icon with hd + ubuntu logo + green arrow
[20:06] <curlyears> I don't see such an icon
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> dash
[20:08] <curlyears> ah, I see it now...I ghave to d/l the file first, th9ough right?
[20:09] <curlyears> and 14.04.3 should install and boot correctly?
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: download latest iso
[20:09] <on247> hi
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: then create the usb stick with startup disk creator
[20:10] <curlyears> OK
[20:10] <curlyears> \see y'sall in a while....and thank you for your patience
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: latest lts: 14.04.3 right
[20:10] <BluesKaj> yes
[20:10] <on247> so after a upgrade to Xenial there is no longer a init.d folder on my server
[20:11] <on247> nor a service command
[20:11] <penguin42> on247: You're now running systemd
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> on247: upgrade from wich version
[20:11] <on247> trusty
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> on247: see what penguin42 says
[20:11] <curlyears> \where is it sacing the d/l file?
[20:11] <penguin42> on247: you can do things like   systemctl enable/disable  thing  to enable/disable it at boot
[20:11] <lotuspsychje> !systemd | on247
[20:12] <curlyears> where is it saving the d/l file?
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: your kidding right?
[20:12] <on247> ok and what if i want to stop start something
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: downloads?
[20:12] <penguin42> on247: systemctl start  thing
[20:12] <on247> thanks
[20:12] <penguin42> on247: Just run     systemctl     on it's own to see the status of services, and   systemctl --list-unit-files   to show services that arne't started/enabled
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> on247: another thing, xenial development branch is not reccomended for server use right
[20:13] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: : I am booted under Live CD mode
[20:13] <on247> Not in prod
[20:13] <on247> yeah i would guess so
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> on247: kk as long as you aware things can still break right
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: open folder from firefox downloads after downloaded
[20:15] <on247> cant list services
[20:15] <penguin42> on247: what happens?
[20:15] <curlyears> open *WHAT* folder?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: press on the iso name inside firefox
[20:16] <curlyears> it is done downloading, but I don't see it anywhere
[20:16] <on247> Failed to list services , launch helper exited with status -1
[20:16] <curlyears> I don't SEE an .iso in firefox
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: you see your running ubuntu download right?
[20:17] <penguin42> on247: What command was that from?
[20:17] <curlyears> no, it has finished
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: press on finished download
[20:17] <on247> 'sudo systemctl'
[20:18] <penguin42> on247: Hmmmm
[20:18] <penguin42> on247: what does    ps -p 1     show for pid 1 ?
[20:18] <curlyears> Oh, I see what you meant.  and I was mistoooken, it says it still has 10 minutes to go
[20:19] <on247> init
[20:19] <penguin42> oh, so you're not running systemd
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: when you open disc creator, it will probably see your iso aswell
[20:19] <curlyears> doggone it, I wish I lived in Omaha...they are offer 1gbps Inetrnet connectivity to residential customers now   *sigh*
[20:19] <on247> so i have neither systemd nor upstart
[20:19] <on247> awesome
[20:19] <curlyears> lotuspsychje: OK, I thik I see what you mean nnow
[20:19] <penguin42> on247: Do you have /etc/init ?
[20:19] <on247> nope
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> curlyears: good!
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: So you've got neither /etc/init nor /etc/init.d ?!
[20:20] <on247> no
[20:20] <on247> neither
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: Hmmmmm
[20:20] <penguin42> on247: If you've got neither of those and aren't running systemd then I'm lost
[20:21] <curlyears> I know this whole mess is making me look really stupid, but honest, I'm not stupid.  Really.  As Sheldon Cooper would say "My mother had me tested!"   *grin*
[20:21] <on247> upgrade went just fine
[20:21] <on247> ran it on my OVZ vps fine
[20:21] <penguin42> on247: What does cat   /etc/issue say ?
[20:22] <curlyears> what source files would I have to modify and recompile to make my display cursor larger?
[20:22] <on247> lol , wrong terminal
[20:22] <curlyears> 7 minutes
[20:23] <on247> was connected to a box that wasnt ubuntu at all
[20:23] <on247> will try on the actual ubuntu one
[20:24] <penguin42> ok, that's making more sense :-)
[20:24] <on247> yup process 1 is systemd
[20:25] <penguin42> ok, that's more reassuring :-)
[20:25] <curlyears> has everyone seen thew episode where shelcon is sitting alone onm the sofa, in his "spot" and crrobning to his laptop "Oh, ubuntu, you're my favorite open source operating system." ??
[20:25] <penguin42> on247: Now, what happens when you run systemctl    ?
[20:25] <on247> get the list
[20:26] <on247> everything running fine
[20:26] <curlyears> s/crrobning/crooning/
[20:26] <penguin42> on247: Excellent :-)
[20:26] <curlyears> crap, I have to stop, this is off-topic )-:
[20:27] <curlyears> BluesKaj, are tyou present?
[20:27] <BluesKaj> curlyears, yes
[20:27] <on247> wierd thing is i had the sytemctl binary
[20:27] <on247> in the other non ubuntu box
[20:28] <on247> or i would found out the mistake sooner
[20:29] <curlyears> looks like thew d/l finished...see you wonderful filk in a few
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> phew
[20:30] <penguin42> on247: What distro is the other box?
[20:30] <on247> Arch linux
[20:30] <penguin42> hmm, I thought Arch was always systemd
[20:31] <on247> now i have to go their irc
[20:31] <on247> beacause indeed is broken in that box
[20:32] <funkyHat> Always? Arch has been around quite a lot longer than systemd
[20:34] <on247> got a issue , now apache refuses to stop
[20:35] <on247> systemctl stop apache2 , looks like it worked
[20:35] <on247> still running
[20:35] <on247> still listening on netstat
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: Try systemctl | grep apache2   - you might find it's also setup as a service
[20:36] <on247> also ?
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: I've not got apache2 on this box
[20:36] <penguin42> on247: But systemctl can also do something like inetd, so I'm just wondering if it restarted it
[20:39] <on247> there is no apache service actually
[20:39] <on247> and it didnt tell me when i tried to stop ?
[20:40] <on247> why i wouldnt have the service
[20:42] <penguin42> on247: Is it called http or something instead?
[20:42] <on247> no , just tried
[20:43] <penguin42> on247: Check with   systemctl --list-unit-files     it sometimes doesn't list stuff that's not enabled/running
[20:45] <on247> also not there
[20:45] <penguin42> hmm
[20:50] <curlyears> *sniff*  Installation failed.  Error #5  IO failed
[20:51] <curlyears> \it's an 8 GB thumb, why would a 1 GB install over-fill it?
[20:51] <curlyears> I have the most deplorable luck
[20:53] <curlyears> well, ,it didn't over fill it,, the USB must be defective.   m,klfs wouldn't have checked that whe in built the filesystem
[20:54] <Guest32522> im back
[20:56] <on247> Any clue on why the service wouldnt be there
[20:56] <curlyears> anyone have any idea why my create an install USB drive failed?
[20:57] <curlyears> should I u[grade to 15.*, or wait until Arpiel for 16.04 LTS?
[20:58] <curlyears> April
[21:00] <curlyears> ?
[21:00] <BluesKaj> curlyears, check out using dd to copy the iso to your usb stick, sudo dd if=/pathtonameof.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M , it will be bootable
[21:01] <curlyears> thanks, B;uesKaj
[21:22] <curlyears> *well poopie words*!!!   My dash and the icons beklow it all disappearedm and notingas working, so I just hit "reset"  )-:
[21:22] <curlyears> now I have to d/l that goldurned iso again!
[21:23] <curlyears> does someone have the URL for 14.04.3?
[21:24] <curlyears> 14.04.3 is only available in 'server' form?
[21:25] <curlyears> that's all that's available at the ubuntu site I just got from google
[21:49] <penguin42> oohhhk, wth hasn't x got a wheel group


[12:10] <JadedJ> Hi
[12:10] <JadedJ> Currently installing lubuntu on vmware
[12:11] <JadedJ> how do i change the resoltution during install?
[14:27] <hateball> I'm not sure you can until you've installed open-vm-tools-desktop
[14:27] <hateball> JadedJ: ^
[14:27] <JadedJ> Yeah I couldn't
[14:27] <JadedJ> I had to move the window around
[14:27] <JadedJ> annoying


[08:01] <schopin> Could somebody with autopkgtest access trigger this for me ? https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=impish&arch=i386&package=mysql-8.0&trigger=mysql-8.0/8.0.26-0ubuntu1
[08:02] <schopin> I'm suspecting the failing test blocking openssl isn't a regression caused by it...
[08:17] <ginggs> schopin: .
[08:19] <schopin> thanks!
[09:01] <sem2peie> tjaalton: ping >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1939937
[09:03] <tjaalton> sem2peie: it's fixed in oem-5.13
[09:04] <tjaalton> sem2peie: which you can see from the change I did, marked it fix committed
[09:05] <sem2peie> linux-image-5.13.0-1011-oem ?
[09:05] <tjaalton> yes
[09:05] <sem2peie> thanks
[09:14] <sem2peie> tags:added: verification-done-focal
[10:18] <ginggs> schopin: passed https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/m/mysql-8.0/impish/i386
[10:18] <ginggs> but i also triggered a test with openssl/1.1.1k-1ubuntu1 and glibc/2.34-0ubuntu1, which hasn't failed yet
[13:46] <dbungert> may I get a retest for the following?  I suspect new systemd may help.  https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=impish&arch=armhf&package=vip-manager&trigger=curl/7.74.0-1.3ubuntu1&trigger=systemd/248.3-1ubuntu7
[13:47] <cjwatson> dbungert: done
[13:47] <dbungert> cjwatson: thanks!
[16:32] <ItzSwirlz> cjwatson, TJ-: No, didn't help. I can't find any flag that'd replace the STAGE and removing it wouldn't do anything https://github.com/ItzSwirlz/iso-builder/runs/3486797937?check_suite_focus=true
[17:00] <ItzSwirlz> I'm not sure. I even tried force installing. I'm going to contact live-team
[19:47] <mwhudson> Sep 01 16:32:26 autopkgtest systemd-nspawn[781]: systemd-nspawn: error while loading shared libraries: libsystemd-shared-248.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[19:47] <mwhudson> what
[19:48] <mwhudson> (from the top failure on https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/s/systemd/impish/amd64)
[19:58] <TJ-> "The following additional packages will be installed" ... "systemd-container:i386"  ... "Setting up systemd-container:i386 (248.3-1ubuntu3) ..."
[20:21] <sumagnadas> so i am making an application for myself which will pull my supermix playlist from yt music and play it using libvlc module but it seems like i dont have control over it from the notification area of ubuntu or using media keys on my laptop....so how do i get it tot to show up on the notification area as well as control it using media keys?
[20:44] <mwhudson> TJ-: hmm yeah, also turns out that the test is using all proposed packages which makes oddball stuff a bit less shocking


[00:12] <jhutchins_lt> ubox: Is it just firefox that has the problem?
[00:12] <ubox> i'm not sure, let me try konqueror
[00:14] <ubox> yea konqueror works fine, it's just firefox 3.5
[00:14] <ubox> maybe it will be fixed soon
[00:16] <thumper> anyone know the name of the Device Notifier applet?
[00:17] <jhutchins_lt> Probably some package update knocked out the application preferences.
[00:38] <kenny1> hi all
[00:41] <kenny1> hi i just updated and any thing past the log in screen doesn't show
[00:41] <kenny1> #any iders
[00:41] <ubuntu01> lol
[00:43] <kenny1> hi ubuntu01
[00:45] <kenny1> yo
[00:45] <ubuntu01> yooo00
[00:49] <kenny1> is thare any one free that could give me a hand
[00:50] <kenny1> plez
[00:53] <digitalhead> kenny1: what did you update?
[00:54] <kenny1> kde 4.3.1 or .2
[00:55] <fstock> n #xubuntu
[00:57] <digitalhead> kenny1: try rebooting into recovery mode and at the prompt, select "netroot" to get an internet connection (wired) then exit (typing "exit" and press enter). Then select "Fix broken packages"
[00:57] <kenny1> ok
[00:59] <ubuntu01> does anyone know how to use eclipse?? xD
[00:59] <kenny1> 0
[01:00] <kenny1> digitalhead how do i select netroot its a comand line
[01:03] <digitalhead> kenny1: it didn't come up with a menu?
[01:03] <kenny1> no
[01:05] <kenny1> it says not using locking for read onley lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:05] <kenny1> unable to wright /vare/cashe/apt/
[01:06] <kenny1> the package lists or status file could not be parsed
[01:06] <kenny1> or opened
[01:07] <digitalhead> sounds like the install didn't go well. Try running apt-get update
[01:08] <kenny1> same
[01:10] <digitalhead> kenny1: are you root right now?
[01:11] <kenny1> yes
[01:12] <digitalhead> kenny1: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3889231&postcount=2
[01:14] <kenny1> it says read only file system
[01:15] <digitalhead> kenny1: then you're not in recovery mode. Do you have multiple kernels installed from updates?
[01:16] <kenny1> yep sould i try another
[01:17] <digitalhead> if your most recent was installed before this happened and the system has worked since, it should be used
[01:20] <kenny1> yep still read onley
[01:30] <digitalhead> kenny1: It's possible that your filesystem has been corrupted. Try editing or creating something in your home directory. "nano test.txt" Ctrl+O to save it, Ctrl+X to close
[01:34] <kenny1> digitalhead yep it says read onley
[01:38] <digitalhead> kenny1: PM me
[02:08] <mole_> my sound comes from /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp ... how can i set up firefox to use this... i see firefoxrc and FIREFOX_DSP but i is there another setting cause i don't think FIREFOX_DSP takes /dev/dsp1 as an argument?
[02:53] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me with a RTL8110s Realtek network card?
[03:11] <Balsaq> is kubu too heavy for a 2.0ghz and 512rdram?
[03:13] <Balsaq> anyone running it on similar low specs?
[03:14] <jamesjedimaster> I run kubuntu on a 1.3GHz and 512KB RAM laptop
[03:15] <Balsaq> whats it like...
[03:16] <Balsaq> is it fast
[03:16] <jamesjedimaster> it's ok for me, also I have desktop effects, like the cube and others
[03:17] <Balsaq> i am on ubun now on a super old 400mgz machine and its ok but that lag time i drivin me nuts, so i got a used one comin  in to mess with debating between xubu and kubu
[03:18] <Balsaq> heard kubu has a nice windows like environment
[03:18] <Balsaq> only had buntu now for about 2 weeks
[03:20] <Balsaq> when i type words sometimes i have too wait for the letters on screen to catch up
[03:22] <jamesjedimaster> that could be the disk access that loads the system
[03:22] <Balsaq> hmmm as in some kind of hardware prob? or just as in 11 year old hardware
[03:22] <Balsaq> sometimes it really fast
[03:23] <jamesjedimaster> the old hardware...
[03:24] <jamesjedimaster> you could try xubuntu
[03:24] <Balsaq> yeah...even being a certified non tech i figured that, am hping a 1.5 runs 3-4 times faster, but really don't know if the math works that way
[03:24] <jamesjedimaster> it's not as good-looking as kubuntu, but it works on old hardware
[03:24] <Balsaq> hping=hoping
[03:25] <Balsaq> which one are you refering too james?
[03:25] <Balsaq> oh i see noxubu
[03:25] <Balsaq> xubu you meant
[03:26] <Balsaq> i have been reading alot of stuff in here and on the net but really don't understand why xubu or xfce is faster
[03:27] <jamesjedimaster> yes, xubuntu
[03:27] <Balsaq> i mean i know if a lot of stuff is disabled boot up is faster, but does that still make it run faster after boot up?
[03:29] <jamesjedimaster> yes, for example, you don't need a mysql database, so you can disable it (if you installed the mysqlserver)
[03:30] <Balsaq> so if i got a list of all the stuff i don't use or need i could disable it on this computer and get the same speed
[03:30] <webbb82> what compositor do you think would run the fastest on a netbook  xrender opengl compiz
[03:32] <jamesjedimaster> but most of the programs are daemons that doesn't load your system to make it slow
[03:33] <webbb82> so what would you sugjest i do to help speed things up a bit
[03:33] <webbb82> i turned off almost all the effects
[03:33] <webbb82> it doesnt run really slow just slow enough to get annoying
[03:33] <jamesjedimaster> it depends on the RAM of the laptop
[03:34] <jamesjedimaster> i have opengl and runs ok
[03:34] <webbb82> how can i find that out
[03:38] <Balsaq> how bad is 3minutes 30 seconds to go from completely off, thru log in, and all they way to the internet
[03:48] <jamesjedimaster> with that time you can go for a cup of coffee
[04:04] <Cablelex> okay
[04:28] <carpii_> is there an app which can wrap a browser session, including cookies etc?  So I can have two icons for firefox on my desktop, and running either will result in it using a different cookie jar ?
[04:34] <webbb82> i downloaded compiz-kde how do i enablel compiz after installin compiz-kde file
[04:37] <ekeluo> webbb82, what version of kde r u running?
[04:39] <webbb82> 4.3.2
[04:48] <ekeluo> Go to system settings>default application>window manager>select compiz in the dropbox. And then promptly switch back a few minutes later after you realize kwin integrates better. :-)
[04:58] <ussher_> Im on Jaunty.  thumbdrives used to pop up a window when inserted, but now dont and arnt in /etc/media/  how do i get to the contents of the thumbdrive?
[04:59] <ussher_> oops, they arnt in /media/
[05:03] <thumper> ussher_: I have that problem too
[05:03] <thumper> ussher_: I think it is a bug in the device notifier
[05:04] <thumper> ussher_: wait, I'm on karmic
[05:04] <thumper> ussher_: worked for me in jaunty
[05:04] <ussher_> I thought it was a problem with the thumbdrive, but ive tried with a couple now, and one that used to work.
[05:05] <thumper> ussher_: have you upgraded to kde 4.3 on jaunty?
[05:05] <ussher_> ive tried a few fixes from bug reports but no solution yet.
[05:06] <ussher_> i could try that.  im on 4..2 right now
[05:06] <ussher_> the current page im looking at is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB  and if that doesnt work, ill try the upgrade
[05:56] <binskipy2u> anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out?
[05:58] <binskipy2u> anyone?
[05:58] <navetz> is creating an orm model really as easy as it looks?
[05:58] <navetz> whoops wrong channel
[06:03] <shm> I am not able to get login screen in my ubuntu....though I am able to do remote login
[06:03] <shm> what should I do?
[06:06] <binskipy2u>  anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out? anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final com
[06:06] <binskipy2u> es out? anyone see any REAL good reason to go from a working Kubuntu 9.04 w/kde 4.3.2 to 9.10 when it comes out? or anyone here make the switch even though its NOT final yet, and realize its a great idea when the final comes out?
[06:06] <binskipy2u> oops
[06:44] <texnofobix> hi
[06:55] <bogdanbiv__> Hello texnofobix.
[06:57] <texnofobix> i am trying out how to stop my top bar from being stuck in edit mode
[06:57] <texnofobix> i'm getting the newest updates (this is the netbook beta)
[07:01] <bogdanbiv__> You have a top panel?
[07:01] <texnofobix> yeah
[07:02] <texnofobix> Applications Newspaper and etc
[07:02] <bogdanbiv__> texnofobix: What version?
[07:03] <bogdanbiv__> .whois texnofobix
[07:04] <texnofobix> i'm connected via NX client to another kde session
[07:04] <texnofobix> kde 4.3.2
[07:04] <texnofobix> i think
[07:04] <texnofobix> let me double check
[07:04] <texnofobix> make that 4.3.1
[07:05] <texnofobix> i've got some updates that are installing now
[07:11] <Mamarok> texnofobix: please ask in #ubuntu+1 for Karmic related issues
[07:12] <texnofobix> ah ok
[07:12] <texnofobix> will do, thanks  Mamarok
[07:17] <Mamarok> texnofobix: you are welcome :)
[07:19] <ussher_> thumper: i did the upgrade, it didnt help.  but this fixed the issues with the USB thumbdrive http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=23740#p34471
[07:19] <ussher_> thumper: added that "new device widgit" and all is good
[07:20] <ussher_> Thanks
[07:36] <Crazycheese> Hey guys, do you know if 9.04 actually comes with DSL(pppoe) support OOTB?
[07:37] <Crazycheese> Yesterday I needed a Livecd that is capable of providing dsl networking in live environiment and I was unable to establish even LAN connection. DSL is greyed out as well.
[07:38] <Crazycheese> Im speaking of Kubuntu 9.04.
[07:44] <Crazycheese> Zzzzzzzz
[08:15] <igor__> hi, I've just upgrated to 9.10 and I got the message "NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your", package  nvidia-glx-185 is installed
[08:16] <igor__> I had to switch nvidia->nv in xorg.conf
[08:23] <thepianoguy> hi guys
[08:23] <thepianoguy> I don't see any devices in pulseaudio
[08:23] <thepianoguy> is there anything else I need to configure/install?
[08:23] <thepianoguy> alsa works fine
[08:24] <thepianoguy> * using karmic
[08:42] <Mamarok> thepianoguy: well, pulseaudio doesn't show devices, and you don't really need it unless you want to have network sound
[08:42] <thepianoguy> hm... the new skype supports pulseaudio only
[08:42] <thepianoguy> no support on oss and alsa anymore :/
[08:45] <Mamarok> ah, then you have no other choice
[08:45] <Mamarok> please ask Karmic related questions in #ubuntu+1
[08:45] <thepianoguy> ok, thnx
[08:54] <wes_> who bipolar
[08:55] <Mamarok> wes_: do you have a question?
[08:55] <wes_> i didnt think anyone was awake
[08:55] <Mamarok> wes_: well, this is a support channel
[08:56] <wes_> how do i get a list of other channels?
[08:56] <switzch> I stalled windows7 after what I forgot was a hard shutdown. I just booted the kubuntu livecd to  do the usual grub fix, except this time my main partition, /dev/sda5 is showing up as a 44G "Linux swap / Solaris" with the NC (not clean?) flag and I can't even try to forcemount it as ext3 (not even sure if it's ext3...) because it says it's already mounted
[08:56] <switzch> any ideas other than panicking and starting to look for my backup dvds?
[08:57] <Mamarok> wes_: what IRC client are you using and what channel are you looking for?
[08:57] <wes_> Konversation. I just intalled yesterday, so im still looking around, so i dont have a difinitive answer for the second part
[08:58] <Mamarok> wes_: well, then I can't answer you :)
[08:58] <Mamarok> switzch: boot the live CD in recovery mode, so it doesn't mount the partitions
[08:59] <switzch> Mamarok: the thing is they're not mounted as far as I can tell
[09:00] <switzch> Mamarok: /dev/sda5 isn't listed when I run 'mount'
[09:00] <olafw> what does cat /proc/mounts show ?
[09:00] <switzch> olafw: same as mount - I'll post it on a pastebin, sec
[09:00] <Mamarok> switzch: if it is markead as a swap aprtition of course you can't mount it
[09:01] <Mamarok> partition*
[09:01] <switzch> Mamarok: I tried to force it with -t ext3
[09:01] <Mamarok> I don't think that helps, you probably need to check it for errors first
[09:02] <switzch> fsck complains about the partition being already mounted
[09:02]  * Mamarok had that once with an external ext3 HD
[09:03] <switzch> fdisk and /proc/mount at http://pastebin.com/m6f2d6b7c
[09:04] <switzch> Mamarok: I think I could tell fsck to go on regardless of the mounted status, but I'm a bit wary of running fsck.ext3 seeing as how I'm not entirely positively sure that the partition was ext3 - it might have been xfs
[09:05] <Mamarok> ah, that's a problem then
[09:09] <dawn> d
[09:11] <olafw> switzch: there seems to be a hole in the partition layout?  That is sda5 doesn't fill sda4
[09:13] <switzch> olafw: ah I just noticed that the fdisk -lu output is different from cfdisk's...
[09:13] <olafw> the size of sda5 also seems more appropriate for swap
[09:13] <switzch> yeah
[09:13] <switzch> thanks for making me notice
[09:13] <switzch> cfdisk was showing only sda5 and gave it 44G
[09:14] <olafw> could your missing fs be sitting in the hole ?
[09:14] <switzch> looks like the start of the swap is overlapping with the last bit of sda4
[09:14] <olafw> sda4 is an extended partition
[09:15] <olafw> in the dos-style partition layout, an extended partition contains other partitions
[09:15] <switzch> ah ok
[09:15] <olafw> so having sda5 "inside" sda4 is normal
[09:15] <olafw> this is b/c the partition table in the disk label has only room for 4 entries...
[09:17] <olafw> you could use fdisk to create a partition that spans the "hole"
[09:17] <olafw> this affects the partition table, but not the contents of the hole itself.
[09:17] <switzch> is there a way to back up the partition table first, just in case?
[09:17] <olafw> then see if fsck _with_ the -n flag, finds an fs in there.
[09:18] <olafw> IIRC partition table would be the 1st block (or couple of blocks) of sda4
[09:18] <olafw> for the extended partitions
[09:18] <olafw> so you can use dd to pull it off and put it back, but have to be very careful
[09:19] <olafw> so that dd doesn't write where it should skip
[09:19] <switzch> (by the way, it looks like what happened is that the windows7 installer created a new boot partition and then, because of the limit you mentionned, had to move stuff to an extended partition)
[09:19] <olafw> In practice, I've worked with just a printout of the partition table -- block units
[09:19] <olafw> Not sure what windows 7 did here
[09:20] <olafw> but if that is what it did, then there may be a problem, b/c that would make the lower bound of sda4 likely the original lower bound
[09:21] <olafw> The info on the printout is sufficient to recreate the layout with fdisk.
[09:26] <olafw> It _may_ be possible to run an fsck.ext3  -n on the /dev/sda4 device itself.
[09:26] <olafw> And see what it spits out.
[09:33] <switzch> olafw: "fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda4. Could this be a zero-length partition?"
[09:33] <switzch> olafw: guess I'll have to play with dd
[09:33] <olafw> looks like it
[10:05] <michael> hi
[12:04] <nstar7> hey i got some problems with konqueror.. flash doesnt work although its installed
[12:04] <nstar7> videos load but dont play
[12:04] <nstar7> on amd64
[12:08] <Bobenceto> I use karmic KDE 4.3.2
[12:08] <Bobenceto> also i use gdm for login manager, is there any way to put shutdown and restart in leave menu?
[12:22] <ubsafder> how can i change the name of my computer under kubuntu ?
[12:23] <ubsafder> so it register into the dhcp serveur differently
[12:24] <nstar7> why cant i use flash in konqueror?
[12:25] <EagleScreen> nstar7: you can
[12:25] <EagleScreen> ubsafder: look for the file /etc/HOSTNAME
[12:26] <nstar7> i have it installed and it doesnt work.. videos dont play
[12:26] <nstar7> they load and dont play
[12:26] <nstar7> no controls
[12:26] <nstar7> just black screen
[12:26] <EagleScreen> nstar7: KDE and Kubuntu versions?
[12:26] <nstar7> kde 4.3.2 / kubuntu 9.04 / amd64
[12:26] <EagleScreen> nstar7: how did you install flash?
[12:27] <nstar7> konqueror asked me to install it
[12:27] <nstar7> and i accepted
[12:27] <nstar7> shockwave flash
[12:28] <EagleScreen> was it installed with InstallPackage from Ubuntu packages?
[12:28] <nstar7> no
[12:28] <nstar7> i dont think so
[12:28] <EagleScreen> then?
[12:29] <EagleScreen> nstar7: close all Konqueror instances, and install "flashplugin-installer" package
[12:30] <ubsafder> EagleScreen: great /etc/hostname did it
[12:36] <nstar7> EagleScreen: its installed already
[12:37] <EagleScreen> is Konqueror still not playing flash?
[12:40] <nstar7> EagleScreen: some play, some dont.. i dont understand why this doesnt play
[12:40] <nstar7> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0K_nWyxwqI
[12:40] <nstar7> black screen no controls
[12:42] <EagleScreen> Konqueror bug
[12:42] <nstar7> :(
[12:42] <EagleScreen> consider to use another browser
[12:42] <nstar7> ok, then i tried to install firefox 3.5.. and i got a mess of packages .. it wante do to install firefox 3.0 too as dependency?! why? and instead of firefox 3.5 i got shiretoko? why is it called like that?
[12:43] <nstar7> and it doestn appear anywhere in the kde menu
[12:43] <EagleScreen> Arora 0.10.1 is working very well in Kuubntu 9.10 beta
[12:43] <Bou> shiretoko (firefox) is working well either
[12:43] <nstar7> im doing a upgrade to 9.10 now
[12:44] <nstar7> Arora has better kde integration?
[12:44] <EagleScreen> yes
[12:44] <nstar7> i dislike gtk shit
[12:44] <nstar7> ok then im doing a upgrade to 9.10 from the alternate cd
[12:44] <EagleScreen> Arora is built on Qt, the KDE graphics drawing libraries
[12:44] <ubsafder> thx bye
[12:45] <EagleScreen> but Arora also is well integrated with any other Desktop: Gnome, Win32, etc..
[12:45] <EagleScreen> Kubuntu 9.10 has a special installer for Firefox, not sure about how good it is
[12:46] <nstar7> EagleScreen:  what do you use?
[12:46] <nstar7> what kde
[12:46] <nstar7> and kubuntu
[12:46] <EagleScreen> in Kubuntu 9.10 i am using Arora 0.10.1
[12:48] <nstar7> is kubuntu 9.10 slightly faster in desktop and application overall responsiveness?
[12:49] <nstar7> cause i'vr read that in 2.6.31 they changed some memory management heuristics and desktop interactivity is better
[12:49] <nstar7> under high memory pressure
[12:52] <EagleScreen> Firefox installer in 9.10 seems to be ok
[12:58] <naught101> hi, my pagedown key has stopped working, xev reports it as keycode 117 (keysym 0xff20, Multi_key)
[12:59] <naught101> any idea why it might have stopped?
[12:59] <naught101> I mean, where it might be set wrong?
[13:00] <EagleScreen> check: KDE keyboard config, X server keyboard config, and console-setup keyboard config
[13:01] <EagleScreen> and also check locale config
[13:02] <naught101> EagleScreen: yeah, reloading with "setxkbmap us" makes it work again, but temporarily, so it is the keyboard config, I'll just have another look
[13:03] <_lmilano_> Hi
[13:03] <_lmilano_> Any Kubuntu developer around?
[13:04] <_lmilano_> (I don;t need help, but I have an idea for a blueprint, I wanted to check if it makes sense)
[13:07] <naught101> EagleScreen: hrmm... I need keyboard layouts on, because I use the compose key, but that seems to always screw up the pgdn key. any ideas?
[13:22] <dam> bonjour tout le monde, j'ai une imprimante Lexmark de type x2670 (serie x2600). j'ai installer les drivers nécéssaires mais mon ordinateur ne semble toujours pas détecter l'imprimante. Quelqu'un pourrais m'aider ?
[13:36] <Progzy> Hi
[13:37] <dam> hi
[13:38] <Progzy> I am looking for a svn GUI client. I have tested many but I can not find the feature I need. I'd like the possibility to make "patch" like it is possible in tortoise SVN cient (but for windows)
[13:38] <dam> i have a Lexmark printer, an x2670 (x2600 series) . I downloaded the drivers from thier web site but my pc still wont detect it. Can anyone help ?
[13:40] <Progzy> By "patch", I mean : show log then select 2 different revision then "compare revision". This give a list of all files modified, added, deleted. Then one can select files and export them to a specific directory to do a patch.
[13:41] <Progzy> Anyone could help on this please ?
[13:47] <Zubatac> aiuto doppio monitor in karmic
[13:49] <eugenpc> buna ziua
[13:49] <eugenpc> hello
[13:50] <Zubatac> help me double monitor
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:11] <Kristinn> Eh, I just installed kubuntu from ubuntu, and it needs a password to log in, my Ubuntu account doesn't work :S
[14:15] <Sadly> Escriba el texto aquí....
[14:15] <Sadly> hola!!!
[14:15] <Sadly> Buenos días!!!
[14:16] <Sadly> Esto es un canal en español cierto?
[14:16] <Pici> !es | Sadly
[14:28] <wilsby29> hi
[14:29] <EagleScreen> hi
[14:35] <skhaen> bonjour tout le monde
[14:35] <skhaen> je viens de passer sour kde apres un gros moment sous gnome
[14:35] <skhaen> mais j'ai quelque problèmes ..
[14:35] <skhaen> comme l'impossibilité d'ouvrir "fenetre de connexions" dans "configuration"
[14:35] <skhaen> si quelqu'un sait pourquoi ..
[14:50] <genii> !fr | skhaen
[14:52] <skhaen> oh sorry
[14:52] <skhaen> default in konversation ^^'
[14:58] <ct529> I am trying to install knode using apt-get .... I would like to install without checking the dependencies ..... for some strange reasons apt-get -f install knode does not work
[15:10] <prashant> i need to repair mp4 file..they say me ..d best software  is "Treasured" for MAC....is there any1 for ubuntu 9.04 as well..plz help
[15:21] <lutius> !restricted
[15:37] <factor_> esa gente que dise el trabajo e
[15:40] <lovre> what is the simplest virtualization software other than virtualbox, i am having trouble installing it
[15:42] <genii> lovre: vmware
[15:43] <lovre> genii: can i install it from the repos? Does it require any complicated setupi?
[15:49] <genii> !info vmware-package
[15:50] <genii> lovre: Might want to enquire about installing, etc in their channel #vmware
[15:52] <lovre> genii: ok, thank you
[16:17] <lovre> hi all. please help. I cant install linux-headers-xxx, look at this: http://pastebin.com/m48e2121b
[16:29] <genii> lovre: enable repository of intrepid-updates
[16:30] <lovre> genii: what is the exact repository name?
[16:31] <genii> lovre: It depends on your area. In mine, Canada, it would be like: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[16:31] <genii> Substitute //ca. part accordingly
[16:32] <genii> Also suggest to add same line but with deb-src at beginning
[16:35] <lovre> genii: ok, trying, brb
[16:54] <subito> hi, what is a good screencaster on kde?
[16:56] <sourcemaker> are there beta users of karmic?
[16:57] <Pici> sourcemaker : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[16:57] <sourcemaker> Pici: ok
[17:02] <subito> i got this when i try to 'make' recordmydesktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/
[17:02] <genii> subito: Why try to make it when you could just: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install krecordmydesktop
[17:03] <genii> (might be just recordmydesktop and not krecordmydesktop, but you get the idea)
[17:04] <subito> genii: because i did not find the package krecordmydesktop and the package recordmydesktop is only for the command-line interface
[17:05] <genii> !info gtk-recordmydesktop
[17:05] <genii> Also,
[17:05] <genii> !screencast
[17:08] <subito> genii: i'm on kde so i'd rather use qt-recordmydesktop that gtk-recordmydesktop
[17:08] <subito> genii: i jut have an error when i try to install qt-recordmydesktop
[17:08] <genii> !info qt-recordmydesktop
[17:08] <genii> That might be since it doesn't exist
[17:08] <subito> i mean i have an error when i try to compile it myself
[17:09] <subito> the error that i pasted above: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/
[17:11] <subito> nobody has an idea about that error?
[17:13] <subito> i got this when i try to 'make' qt-recordmydesktop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293227/; does someone have an idea about this?
[17:13] <genii> subito: Seems to indicate that Argentina is not a valid locale to build for
[17:13] <subito> genii: ?
[17:13] <genii> subito: ar.gmo
[17:14] <subito> genii: ok, but i'm not from argentina :/
[17:14] <subito> genii: do you know how can i fix that?
[17:16] <genii> subito: try using make with -k
[17:17] <subito> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293239/
[17:20] <droxemin> j EFNet
[17:20] <droxemin> join EFNet
[17:20] <genii> subito: Do you have the Qt dev packages installed?
[17:21] <genii> droxemin: /server newservername    or /join #channelname
[17:22] <subito> genii: i code some projects with qt so no problem from there i thing
[17:22] <subito> think
[17:24] <subito> genii: i compiled with '-i' it seems to work
[17:25] <subito> Could not open/configure sound card :(
[17:25] <genii> subito: Their page http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php indicates that pyQt4 (qt-recordMyDesktop) is needed. Perhaps to install the pyQt4 dev package
[17:25] <subito> genii: i've installed it already
[17:26] <genii> subito: I'd suggest then to go moan at whoever is responsible for qt-recordmydesktop
[17:27] <subito> genii: it worked with the option '-i' but now there is a sound problem
[17:27] <subito> wow but even without sound the .ogv output is horrible
[17:28] <genii> subito: -i just ignores errors, doesn't repair them or prevent the errors from corrupting whatever gets made
[17:28] <subito> yes but since they're translation errors it's not really a problem
[17:30] <genii> subito: I'd still recommend to you to contact whoever writes and maintains this app, since it's not an officially supported package and there's only so much assistance that can be given here on the subject.
[17:31] <subito> genii: ok
[17:31] <subito> i will, thanks
[17:33] <subito> anyway the ogv output of recordmydesktop (the official package) is horrible so i think i'll try another one
[17:34] <genii> subito: Another suggestion offhand is maybe look at the configure options to see if it has some switch/option to use .po files instead of .gmo
[17:36] <genii> subito: If the configure file is well written, something like: ./configure --help           or --list  usually gives all the things which it can use
[17:37] <subito> genii: ./configure --help | grep .po gives nothing (but there is a (long) help)
[17:38] <rickey> i have a proublem ,i am setting up a computer for browesing the internetbut i dont have another dsl modem for her to use , nor a full depelex modem for dail up . but i do have a few win modems . i have heard the now you can fyind pyrograms yin ylyinux yto make win modems work dose anyyone here know anything about that?
[17:39] <compilerwriter> rickey does the box you want to use as web terminal have a nic card?
[17:39] <rickey> wow i didnt understand
[17:40] <genii> !ics
[17:40] <rickey> the computer i am useing now will be the computer ill be satting up for her i am useing dsl rigth now
[17:41] <genii> rickey: winmodems are hit-and-miss as far as trying to get them working under Linux
[17:42] <compilerwriter> rickey if the computers will be in the same place what genii and I are trying to steer you toward is some sort of networked internet sharing as winmodems are flaky at best.
[17:42] <rickey> it is all i have to try and gyeyty her online on her yown
[17:43] <compilerwriter> Your box and the one that you are setting up will be at two different locations then?
[17:43] <rickey> tyhe two computyyeyrs wyilyl bye yin diffyeyryenyt ypayrts yof tyhe house
[17:43] <genii> compilerwriter: As I gather they are setting the system up at their place with a DSL, then trying to figure out what to put in there so when she takes it home she can still use internet from there
[17:44] <genii> (although the question at first was not entirely clear)
[17:44] <compilerwriter> There are ways to do wireless networks in the same building rickey.
[17:44] <genii> rickey: Is the computer a Dell , by any chance?
[17:45] <compilerwriter> genii you might be right I am still not certain from what he has told us.
[17:45] <rickey> the two computers will be in different parts of the house
[17:45] <rickey>  no it isnt a dell
[17:46] <compilerwriter> bugger had it been a Dell we might have had a fighting chance.
[17:46] <rickey> i have no extra money for wileryless
[17:46] <genii> rickey: If the two systems are going to be adjacent to each other, best solution is still the connection-sharing
[17:47] <rickey> and my dsl moden only syeyrvyes yone cyonnecytyion
[17:48] <rickey> this keyboad sucks
[17:48] <compilerwriter> the one connection thing can be fixed with a switch or a router or a second nic card on one machine.
[17:49] <compilerwriter> hiya BluesKaj
[17:50] <genii> rickey: You can get a router for about $20, have it do the DSL login, plug both boxes to the router
[17:50] <BluesKaj> hi compilerwriter
[17:50]  * compilerwriter pours BluesKaj a snifter of brandy
[17:50] <rickey> but i dont have two modems
[17:50] <BluesKaj> wow, compilerwriter thx :)
[17:51] <rickey> i know very little abot dsl ,except i use it
[17:51] <compilerwriter> rickey you would only need the one modem.  The router would share the connection from the one modem for you.  You would still have to run cable though to the other location.
[17:51] <genii> rickey: You don't need two modems in that case. It goes: phone line->DSL modem->router-> whatever number of computers the router has plugs for
[17:52] <compilerwriter> thanks for drawing the picture for me genii
[17:52] <rickey> oooooooooook
[17:52] <rickey> now where to find a cabel long enoth
[17:53] <rickey> how dose wireless work
[17:54] <rickey> what do yyou need to put in yyour machine for wireless
[17:54] <BluesKaj> rickey, cat 5 cable can be expensive ..there's a wireless alternative if your router has that option..some wifi adapters are the same price as 50ft of cat5/6 cable
[17:54] <compilerwriter> A wirless router would send the signal from the router to a wireless receiver in the other machine.
[17:54] <compilerwriter> via radio frequency of course.
[17:55] <rickey> what is the recive called and how much are they
[17:56] <compilerwriter> phone line --> DSL --> wireless router --> airwaves --> other computers.
[17:56] <compilerwriter> There are several ways to receive rickey.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> I bought a belkin USB wifi adapter for 50bucks , it works well
[17:56] <rickey> the wireless recivers in the computers are called??
[17:57] <compilerwriter> There are cards that you would install in the machine.  There are USB adapters.  Many laptops have wifi built in.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> actually wireless is an exchange of data back and forth between the router and your wifi adapter connected to the pc
[17:57] <rickey> do they havye a namye
[17:58] <compilerwriter> Rickey where are you in the world?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> USB wifi adapter is one name
[17:58] <rickey> yoyk ythank
[17:58] <rickey> i am in arkansas
[17:58] <compilerwriter> Rickey do you have a Fry's Electronics, or a Best Buy, or a WalMart nearby.
[17:59] <rickey>  yi ylive yin ythe countryy syide
[17:59] <rickey> yyyyes
[17:59] <compilerwriter> Hell if your from Arkansas you have to have a  Walmart then.
[17:59] <rickey> yes
[17:59] <compilerwriter> The people in the store would be able to point you in the correct direction.
[18:00] <rickey> did yyou sayy  the recivers was about  $50.00
[18:00] <compilerwriter> I'm guessing you won't need to do anything fancy like Wireless N unless there is a large distance to be covered.
[18:00] <compilerwriter> Rickey just out of curiosity what sort of DSL modem do you have?\
[18:01] <rickey> zhone
[18:01] <rickey> 10/100
[18:02] <rickey> i have a 1mg connection
[18:02] <compilerwriter> The name of the modem is zhone?
[18:02] <rickey> yyyes
[18:02] <compilerwriter> What is the model number?
[18:04] <rickey> 63y81
[18:04] <rickey> 6381
[18:07] <genii> Looks like a Siemens/SpeedStream number
[18:07] <rickey> ill gyivye yyyou ythe whole nu.
[18:08] <genii> Or maybe Paradyne
[18:08] <compilerwriter> Doesn't look like your modem is already wireless capable.  You will need to purchase a router and a receiving unit.  If I am not mistaken you can go to Walmart and get a package kit that has both in one box.
[18:08] <compilerwriter> looks like Paradyne to me genii
[18:09] <compilerwriter> Rickey genii started with you.  I have to move on to something else.  Genii will help you get finished.  I only butted in because I didn't realize you already had help anyway.  Cheers.
[18:11] <rickey> Zhone 6381-A3-200 ADSL2 /R BRIGE ROUYTER
[18:11] <genii> rickey: http://www.dsldepot.com/dslmodem.asp?modem=152 indicates your DSL modem is also a router. So all you really need is the cat5 cable to run from there to the other computer, and use the router part of the modem to do the login to your ISP, instead of logging in with the computer
[18:12] <genii> Hangon, that was for a Paradyne and not Zphone
[18:13] <rickey> MY DRIVERS ARE PARADYNE
[18:13] <rickey>  TYHATS WHAT THEY SENT WITH IT
[18:13] <genii> rickey: Hm. How many plugs on the thing?
[18:14] <genii> (network plugs)
[18:16] <rickey> JUST ONE OUT GOING
[18:16] <rickey> sorry about the caps
[18:17] <rickey> i have the drive disk
[18:17] <rickey> driver
[18:18] <genii> rickey: The driver won't be much help under Linux
[18:19] <rickey> user guid usb drivers 6381-a1-gb83-20
[18:20] <genii> rickey: If just one network plug, then the router is still your best bet, or if the DSL modem is supplied by your internet provider, have them swap it for one with wifi and then get an inexpensive adapter for the other box
[18:20] <rickey> ok ty
[18:21] <rickey> thanks for tyhe help
[18:21] <genii> rickey: You're welcome
[18:27] <razer> what's add/remove called? I'm trying to install in kubuntu
[18:29] <genii> razer: KPackageKit
[18:29] <razer> genii: the gnome one
[18:29] <genii> razer: Synaptic, usually
[18:30] <razer> genii: the simple add/remove applications
[18:31] <genii> razer: The Gnome package manager is Synaptic. The KDE package manager is KPackageKit (used to be Adept)
[18:32] <razer> genii: I want Add/Remove like in this picture http://fosswire.com/post/2007/4/introducing-ubuntus-addremove-packages/
[18:32] <genii> !synaptic
[18:32] <genii> See above
[18:32] <razer> I already have synaptic installed
[18:33] <razer> I want Add/Remove
[18:33] <genii> razer: Add/Remove IS SYNAPTIC in Gnome!
[18:34] <genii> razer: Add/Remove IS KPACKAGEKIT in KDE!
[18:35] <Fersure> razer: I believe it's: gnome-app-install
[18:36] <razer> Fersure: thanks, I'll see if it is
[18:37] <Fersure> np.
[18:38] <razer> I'm having a problem with Nvidia-glx-185, I can't install without  it breaking my Xorg.conf
[18:41] <peabody> I've got audio in Dragon Player, but I can't get audio in VLC or Flash
[18:44] <razer> uh go to Kmix, then in settings unclick remember volume, then reboot
[18:44] <razer> It fixed it for me
[18:44] <razer> settings, configure Kmix, remember volumes on login
[18:46] <peabody> can it be so simple
[18:46] <peabody> we shall see
[18:46] <razer> haha
[18:48] <razer> now is there anyway, to separate desktops without installing video drivers, i can't do it with krandr
[18:53] <jtheuer> Does anyone know a good file sync application (that also works under win/mac)?
[18:54] <ldeveaux> hi!
[18:55] <ldeveaux> I have a question about network configuration of Kubuntu. I want to use a SOCKS5 proxy for all my connections. How can I configure it in Kubuntu settings? Thanks in advance
[18:56] <ldeveaux> I have found a menu in system settings to configure http, https, ftp but no SOCKS5
[18:57] <subito> hi, my kde just crashed and i had to 'ctrl+alt+backspace' to restart it. could someone help me find out where does this bug come from? i'm using kde 4.3.2
[19:05] <ldeveaux> nobody can help me?
[19:06] <webbb82> i am trying to install plasmas i got from kde-look but i dont know how to install them or make if i try install plasma from file it doesnt show up
[19:07] <razer> webbb82: you can't find it under right lcik add plasmoid?
[19:08] <webbb82> no
[19:25] <lovre> can i use synaptics with kubuntu and everything will work fine?
[19:30] <Re__> HELLO TO ALL
[19:31] <tomtom456> Does anyone know how to extract a email address from a php form?
[19:36] <subito> is there a solfege program for kde?
[19:45] <Zeikfried> Is there a way i can save my current installation to a DvD for reinstallation at a later time?
[19:46] <leaf-sheep> !remaster | Zeikfried
[19:55] <BiggBoss> hi, a question. If i have more than 1 hdd in my machine, how can i switch betwen them with the command line?¿
[19:55]  * genii ponders "switch between them"
[19:55] <blueyed> BiggBoss: they get mounted somewhere.. all are below /
[19:56] <tsimpson> usually in /media if you didn't specify where to mount them at install time
[20:15] <noemi> hi there
[20:16] <noemi> anyone know how i can ride of flickering in kde4?
[20:18] <eugenpc> ciotka
[20:19] <noemi> it is very annoying...
[20:20] <eugenpc> oau
[20:21] <eugenpc> wow
[20:21] <orion76> help
[20:21] <eugenpc> qe pasa?
[20:22] <genii> !ro | eugenpc
[20:22] <orion76> kubuntu 9.04 and 9.10 update-notifier-kde -d
[20:22] <noemi> can anybody help me?
[20:22] <eugenpc> da ro
[20:22] <orion76> Traceback (most recent call last):
[20:22] <orion76>   File "/usr/bin/update-notifier-kde", line 29, in <module>
[20:22] <orion76>     from PyKDE4.kdecore import *
[20:22] <orion76> ImportError: No module named kdecore
[20:23] <FloodBotK1> orion76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <genii> eugenpc: /join #ubuntu-ro
[20:23] <orion76> ?
[20:23] <genii> orion76: As the bot suggests, use the pastebin website for multiple lines of things you want to show us
[20:25] <genii> orion76: apt-cache search kdecore     returns only: python-kde4 - Python bindings for the KDE 4 libraries
[20:25] <orion76> genii: python-kde4 - Python bindings for the KDE 4 libraries
[20:27] <genii> orion76: Looks like a typo where module name should likely be kde-core
[20:27] <genii> !info kde-core
[20:29] <gregweb> Does someone know how to (re)add plasma-widget-networkmanagement again to system tray? It disappeared in one account after having switched users (graphically).
[20:31] <jamesjedimaster> gregweb: unlock widgets, right-click on menu bar, panel options, add widgets, and search for the one you want
[20:31] <genii> gregweb: Should be able to right-click on bottom right of bar and go Add Widget pick Network Management
[20:34] <gregweb> jamesjedimaster, genii: thanks for the answer, but I already tried this, network manager does not show up in "Add Widgets" dialog box although aptitude says it is installed
[20:35] <genii> !info plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[20:36] <genii> Hm
[20:36] <genii> !info plasma-widget-networkmanager
[20:36] <gregweb> I'm on Karmic 9.10 beta
[20:36] <genii> Interesting, both appear in my apt-cache search results
[20:36] <genii> gregweb: #ubuntu+1 then please
[20:38] <gregweb> genii: ok I'll try there, thanks
[20:41] <yourix> why?
[20:42] <yourix> why my firefox cannot open all video?
[20:45] <jtheuer> all? ;-)
[20:46] <yourix> not
[20:47] <yourix> one opened one not opened
[20:48] <westy> i keep getting an error in vlc says this It seems your FFMPEG (libavcodec) installation lacks the following encoder:MPEG AAC Audio anyone know a fix for that?
[20:48] <genii> !codecs
[21:24] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[21:41] <SimFire> Hello Guys, do anyone of you have a problem with xorg taking 100% cpu and VT switching beeing disabled after upgrade to Karmic?
[21:42] <mfraz74> haven't had that with my only karmic install, but that wasn't done as an upgrade
[21:44] <SimFire> hmm, ok tried google but found no good solution, only that some arch and debian people also seem to have the same problem with 4.3.2
[21:45] <genii> SimFire: Perhaps ask in #ubuntu+1
[21:45] <amgarchIn9> anybody is runnung ubuntu-one from kde? I dont seem to get an offer to "add this computer" on applet start. Any idea
[21:45] <amgarchIn9> ?
[21:46] <mfraz74> haven't tried to use it with kde
[21:48] <amgarchIn9> I get this when starting applet from cmdline: AttributeError: HTTPSConnection instance has no attribute '_tunnel_host'
[21:53] <suman> hi all.. how can i disable some services which starts on startup??
[21:53] <suman> i am on 8.10
[21:56] <genii> !up
[21:56] <genii> !startup
[21:57] <mfraz74> !boot
[21:58] <genii> Yes, was looking for that or something about Services...
[21:58] <lucas_> hello
[21:58] <lucas_> i have a huge problem! http://paste.ubuntu.com/293460/
[21:58] <lucas_> dont know whats wrong
[22:06] <ldeveaux> hello! I'm using Kubuntu Karmic Beta. How can I force all connections to pass through a SOCKS 5 proxy? thanks in advance
[22:06] <lucas_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/293460/
[22:06] <lucas_> ????
[22:27] <android87> I need some help regarding Ubuntu. Anybody??
[22:27] <LexR> I like the eye candy of kde4 :)
[22:28] <android87> anyone??
[22:28] <LexR> what you need
[22:28] <LexR> ?
[22:28] <android87> Many questions here...
[22:28] <android87> Thanks
[22:29] <LexR> shoot
[22:29] <android87> Question 1: I'm on Jackalope
[22:29] <LexR> ok
[22:29] <android87> New to it, new to Linux
[22:29] <LexR> me 2
[22:29] <LexR> ask your question
[22:29] <android87> okay.. well. whr can I find themes for it??
[22:30] <android87> and how do I install it??
[22:30] <LexR> for kde?
[22:30] <android87> Gnome
[22:30] <LexR> you will do better to go in #ubuntu room. kubuntu uses default kde theme
[22:30] <LexR> kde desktop environment
[22:30] <android87> I
[22:30] <android87> I'm not on Kubuntu
[22:30] <LexR> but you can look for themes on gnome-look.org
[22:31] <android87> I'm on Ubuntu
[22:31] <LexR> metacity and gtk are for how windows looks, icon themes are for all icons
[22:31] <android87> Well, I got that but how do I install them
[22:31] <android87> They share those tar.gz files which I uncompressed
[22:31] <android87> what next
[22:31] <android87> do I have to copy it somewhere/?
[22:32] <LexR> download a theme you like, it should be in theme.tar.gz file, and right click on desktop, go preferences (the last on menu)
[22:32] <LexR> and click on most left tab. and simply drag and drop theme.tar.gz to it
[22:32] <LexR> it will ask you if you want to install it.
[22:32] <LexR> do not uncompress it
[22:32] <android87> okay
[22:33] <LexR> try it
[22:33] <LexR> :)
[22:33] <android87> well. thats what I did wrong
[22:33] <LexR> ubuntu is easy :) see?
[22:33] <lovaspillando> hi
[22:33] <LexR> hello
[22:33] <lovaspillando> I need some little help but about chat
[22:33] <android87> I'll do it rite now !! Thanks man... will be back shortly..
[22:33] <LexR> k
[22:34] <LexR> ask lovaspillando
[22:34] <lovaspillando> I can't configure my konversation (over Edubuntu), i mean, I just can connect to this server and see ubuntu channels, which is interesting but I am looking for some more things
[22:35] <lovaspillando> btw, konversation installed over Gnome ;-)
[22:35] <LexR> you need to connect to another irc server. you are probably on irc.ubuntu.com
[22:35] <LexR> find in menu network list and select irc.freenode.net
[22:36] <lovaspillando> lex, yes I am, but every other servr I configured, doesnt dont work for me
[22:36] <LexR> or create a server yourself if it is not there
[22:36] <LexR> lovaspillando, may I recomment xchat? it has all servers configured, and looks pretty much the same as konversation.
[22:36] <LexR> just easies to use
[22:37] <android87> it worked man thanks !!! appreciated
[22:37] <LexR> try sudo apt-get install xchat
[22:37] <LexR> no problem android87
[22:37] <lovaspillando> mmmm, thanks, I will try tomorrow then... I supose xchat is in repository
[22:37] <LexR> :)
[22:37] <LexR> yes it is lovaspillando
[22:37] <lovaspillando> thanks so much
[22:37] <LexR> I am using it, it is great. (I am on kubuntu)
[22:37] <android87> LexR .. can you tellme which is the best language to write applications for linux??
[22:37] <LexR> np :)
[22:38] <LexR> well, I do not write programs, but you can use perl, python or c++
[22:38] <LexR> python is widely used in linux. and c++, then perl
[22:39] <android87> I'm currently use php for web development and have started writing programs in Java on linux
[22:39] <lovaspillando> some other question, this time about edubuntu, I am studying Social Education, so I am interested in everything about education... I tried Edubuntu but I am looking for something more focused in test aplications, control of classroom, and so on...
[22:39] <lovaspillando> any idea?
[22:39] <android87> Oh.. Python and perl wowo
[22:39] <android87> cool
[22:39] <LexR> java is great :) I had one course IBM rational 7 (eclipse platform)
[22:39] <LexR> eclipse is awesome!
[22:40] <lovaspillando> android, most used is c++, but you need some extra libraries for using desktop
[22:40] <android87> Well I work on NetBean IDE
[22:40] <LexR> hmm
[22:40] <lovaspillando> Lexr, I use netbeans IDE, eclipse is so complicated for me ;-)
[22:40] <android87> Well, I've started learning python and will start will perl very soon
[22:41] <android87> Me too
[22:41] <LexR> netbeans is also cool. Eclipse is not so complicated, if you poke around it a few hours to make yourself comfortable with its interface
[22:41] <lovaspillando> hehehe, thats the point ;-)
[22:42] <LexR> lovaspillando, what do you mean when you say test applications and control of classrooms?
[22:42] <lovaspillando> it is not complicated at all, but for me, as long I am pretty used to Netbeans already ;-)
[22:42] <android87> Not much different but I like netbean IDE as i've got used to it now
[22:42] <LexR> it is like wheter you preffer chocolate or vanilla ice cream:)
[22:42] <android87> lol..
[22:43] <lovaspillando> with test aplications I mean aplications which help me doing evaluation tests and controlling answers, like having a databes with questions and answers and make a interactive tests
[22:43] <android87> You know what, I was searching for someone to answer the same question,so I logged into my yahoo messenger
[22:43] <LexR> gnu/linux is all about choices. if you dislike vanilla, you can always try chocolate, or if you want exotic, there is always cherry flavor xD
[22:43] <LexR> oh
[22:43] <android87> and then it started pouring all those pop ups for Sex Chat and all crap..
[22:43] <android87> So I came here
[22:44] <LexR> lovaspillando, sorry, I havent found that kind of application for linux :)
[22:44] <lovaspillando> when I say classrooms I mean applications like database interface for controlling califications, results and so on
[22:44] <LexR> i get it :)
[22:44] <LexR> try googling about it, or ask a question on some forum lovaspillando
[22:44] <lovaspillando> yes, I thought it is not easy to find, as long is so specific software and as always that software use to be comercial and for windows :-/
[22:45] <bpascal91> bonsoir tout le monde
[22:45] <lovaspillando> I will, thanks so much!
[22:45] <android87> Bye Bye
[22:45] <LexR> yeah, we used to use an app like that on my faculty, I think it is called "the learning software"
[22:45] <LexR> bye bye android87
[22:45] <LexR> !fr
[22:45] <lovaspillando> bye bye android
[22:46] <lovaspillando> I actually just heard about it, but never had oportunity of try a software like this
[22:46] <android87> hey LexR, is there anyway I can reach you guys just in case i've got any further problem??
[22:46] <LexR> you can always find us here android87  :)
[22:46] <android87> I mean I can google it but is rather easier and best to ask the same question live
[22:46] <android87> same time??
[22:47] <LexR> little earlier, I am going to sleep in 10-15minutes, but this channel is open 24/7
[22:47] <lovaspillando> thats internet! every time, is there someone online ;-)
[22:47] <LexR> yeah! :)
[22:47] <nestor> Hoola alguien que hable español?
[22:47] <lovaspillando> hola nestor
[22:47] <LexR> !es nestor
[22:48] <LexR> !es
[22:48] <android87> Thanks man...bye bye
[22:48] <LexR> bye bye
[22:48] <lovaspillando> lexr, what means when you type ! es or ! fr?
[22:48] <lovaspillando> a kind os translation script?
[22:48] <LexR> it puts out a message on that language to help people who do not speak english
[22:49] <nestor> perdon la ignorancia pero como entro a esos canales ya le di vuelta a esto y o le hayo
[22:49] <LexR> no, it is a message configured on this channel.
[22:49] <LexR> so if I type !sr
[22:49] <ba> slt
[22:49] <LexR> !rs
[22:49] <LexR> it speaks serbian :)
[22:49] <LexR> !de
[22:49] <LexR> german
[22:49] <LexR> etc
[22:49] <lovaspillando> I see
[22:49] <LexR> and this channel is english speaking only :)
[22:50] <lovaspillando> too much time out of chat I guess ;-)
[22:50] <LexR> me? no...
[22:50] <lovaspillando> no, it about me ;-)
[22:50] <LexR> from time to time to find help, or to help someone in spare time ;)
[22:51] <LexR> anyway, I gotta go to bed, I get up early tomorrow. good night...
[22:51] <LexR> zzZ
[22:51] <lovaspillando> I do not chat for three years when I decided to use linux and not windows anymore
[22:51] <lovaspillando> same to you
[22:51] <lovaspillando> good night from Spain
[22:51] <LexR> good night from Serbia :)
[22:52] <bottiger> can someone please post thier /etc/pam.d/(common-account|common-auth|login|gdm) files?
[22:55] <nestor> help me!
[22:56] <nestor> i need someone that speak spanish
[22:56] <nestor> my english its more bad
[22:56] <leaf-sheep> nestor: I read you fine.
[22:57] <nestor> ok but a write more slowly
[22:57] <nestor> ok but i will learn more of english no?
[22:57] <dschulz> nestor: puedo ayudarte
[22:58] <nestor> gracias por responder dschulz
[22:58] <nestor> necesito hacer una video llamada pero solo me salen invitacio0nes por webcam en amsn
[22:59] <nestor> y pidgin me deja menos agradecido pero me gusta esto de ubuntu
[22:59] <dschulz> mmm... la última vez que intenté eso con amsn terminé frustrado
[22:59] <nestor> jaja somos dos
[22:59]  * leaf-sheep mumbles to himself "I only understood pidgin and ubuntu" ;3
[22:59] <nestor> y cual seria la solucion
[23:00] <dschulz> la cámara en si funciona?
[23:00] <nestor> si la reconoce
[23:00] <nestor> pero digamos que solo para hacer llamadas de audio
[23:00] <dschulz> puedes intentar con skype
[23:00] <nestor> se puede?
[23:00] <dschulz> pero claro, no es lo mismo
[23:00] <dwidmann> !es > nestor
[23:01] <nestor> Pero quiero compartir con mis contactos de hotmail acabo de migrar
[23:01] <nestor> y ubottu no se donde ver tu privado (Almenos que la diferencia de color de fondo sea el priv)
[23:02] <dschulz> ubottu es un bot, tambien te escribi en privado. Fijate en la columna de la izquierda
[23:05] <jamesjedimaster> !es | nestor
[23:09] <guy-kubu> Problem with Kubuntu 9.04 on a Asus M50S series laptop
[23:15] <omar> slt
[23:15] <omar> y aurais pas kelk un
[23:15] <omar> ki sait ou on est le projet koala
[23:15] <omar> kde sous java
[23:26] <kde> j
[23:27] <melomane> is there any countdown for kubuntu?
[23:28] <Fanfare> melomane: 14 days till 9.10 or what do u mean?
[23:29] <melomane> Fanfare: i mean sth we can add to our websites, like what ubuntu has. the one in kubuntu site is an image and we have to change it ourselves
[23:29] <melomane> Fanfare: a countdown script or sth like that
[23:30] <Fanfare> melomane: go to ubuntu.com klick on the countdown   there is none for kubuntu, as ubuntu and kubuntu usually are in sync
[23:31] <ubox> how could one easily share a network connection from wifi > lan
[23:31] <melomane> Fanfare: yea u r right, but i thought maybe there is sth for kubuntu, sth in blue, instead of brown!
[23:31] <melomane> ubox: i use gnome network manager. it s really simple but complete and useful
[23:32] <Fanfare> melomane: well, i use the 2nd spotlight, which is something like bw
[23:32] <ubox> it allows sharing? and works in kde?
[23:32] <melomane> ubox: kde network manager (at least the one in kbuntu) sucks
[23:32] <melomane> ubox: yea it works in kde, i have it now, i use it as my connection manager, for anything, wifi, lan, vpn, dsl
[23:32] <melomane> Fanfare: yea thats a good idea
[23:33] <ubox> hmm, i might try it out
[23:33] <melomane> ubox: yeah , the ubuntu network manager rocks
[23:33] <ubox> ok, thanks
[23:33] <melomane> ubox: welcome :)


[00:05] <yofel> weird
[04:00] <valorie> Riddell: I just checked all the links from kubuntu.org
[04:00] <valorie> and they are all correct
[04:01] <valorie> not sure where this fellow found a download link
[04:06] <ahoneybun> Hello people?
[04:26] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[04:31] <ahoneybun> valorie: hello! I saw your name on the mail
[04:31] <ahoneybun> digest
[04:31] <valorie> ah
[04:32] <valorie> don't worry, I won't buttonhole you for your vote
[04:32] <valorie> lol
[04:32] <ahoneybun> I wish you luck
[04:32] <ahoneybun> yea I know lol
[04:32] <valorie> it's nice to have a title, but I'm here anyway
[04:33] <valorie> like a burr; they can't get rid of me
[04:33] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[04:33] <ahoneybun> I'm honored by all the work you have done!
[04:34] <valorie> oh gosh
[04:34] <valorie> just doing my part
[04:34] <valorie> and this is a great team
[04:34] <valorie> very friendly
[04:35] <ahoneybun> Yes it is but this room always seems dead when I get in here
[04:36] <ahoneybun> like I scared them lol
[04:36] <ahoneybun> I wish I could go to a Linux Fest
[04:36] <valorie> where do you live?
[04:36] <ahoneybun> Florida
[04:36] <ahoneybun> lol
[04:36] <valorie> this is a slack time in the channel indeed
[04:37] <valorie> the europeans and indians aren't here
[04:37] <valorie> also: Easter
[04:37] <ahoneybun> yea I think because of the time zone
[04:37] <valorie> there is the SE Linux fest
[04:37] <valorie> I hear it's great
[04:38] <ahoneybun> where is it at?
[04:39] <valorie> http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/
[04:39] <ahoneybun> NC
[04:39] <valorie> June 7-9, 2013 in Charlotte, NC at the Blake Hotel
[04:39] <valorie> so a drive
[04:39] <valorie> but worth it, I hear
[04:40] <valorie> some time when I start giving talks I'm gonna go
[04:40] <ahoneybun> Yea I would not drive lol
[04:40] <ahoneybun> I can't not that far anyway
[04:40] <ahoneybun> never even been to Orlando
[04:41] <ahoneybun> I want to find a spot in the Kubuntu team or small community
[04:41] <ahoneybun> something that I can give back
[04:44] <valorie> I've only been to orlando, for UDS
[04:44] <valorie> and visited with my friend at the river
[04:44] <valorie> which was paradise
[04:45] <valorie> look around in your town
[04:45] <ahoneybun> Yea I wanted to go to that one but I was with family in Plant City which was close
[04:45] <valorie> look at meetup.com and see if there is something interesting locally
[04:45] <ahoneybun> I know Linux Cafe has stuff going
[04:45] <valorie> like a hackathon, or anything
[04:45] <valorie> I get the not driving forever
[04:46] <valorie> but LFNW is a 3 hour drive for me
[04:46] <valorie> and it's totally worth it
[04:47] <ahoneybun> Planet Linux Cafe I mean
[04:47] <ahoneybun> Yea it would be more then 16 hours
[04:47] <ahoneybun> for SELF
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I have the Documents for the 12.04 release I believe
[04:49] <ahoneybun> I got the kubuntu-docs
[04:50] <ahoneybun> oh no for the 13.04 release
[04:51] <ahoneybun> I just need to find something that I can do or something I can learn
[04:51] <ahoneybun> right now I'm just seeding the 12.04.2 release and the first beta for 13.04
[04:53] <valorie> oh, my god
[04:53] <valorie> there is not end of things to learn
[04:53] <valorie> lol
[04:53] <ahoneybun> I know, just I need a starting point
[04:54] <valorie> you'll find it
[04:54] <valorie> milling around for awhile is fine
[04:54] <valorie> I did
[04:54] <valorie> most do
[04:56] <ahoneybun> Maybe just post something on meetup about Kubuntu, Linux and point out somethings to do
[04:56] <ahoneybun> I have done some bug reporting for Nuvola Player
[04:58] <valorie> well, reporting bugs and testing is a good place to start
[04:59] <valorie> fixing bugs if you can do it
[04:59] <valorie> checking out the docs and fixing those
[04:59] <valorie> checking out the wikis and websites and fixing what is out of date or wrong
[04:59] <valorie> submitting artwork
[04:59] <valorie> etc.
[04:59] <valorie> there is literally no end of ways to contribute
[05:02] <ahoneybun> I know just finding a starting point someone to guide
[05:04] <valorie> try a few things
[05:04] <valorie> you'll find your path
[05:04] <valorie> and guides will appear
[05:06] <valorie> making a beginning is magic
[05:07] <ahoneybun> yea
[05:08] <ahoneybun> I have tried the Docs team, maybe that
[05:10] <ahoneybun> that has been no meetings for the Florida LoCo team
[05:12] <ahoneybun> Sorry I'm just going on and on
[05:13] <valorie> that's ok
[05:16] <ahoneybun> just trying to get somewhere
[05:17] <ahoneybun> just so you know I did vote for you
[05:18] <valorie> \o/
[05:18] <valorie> I didn't know voting had opened?
[05:18] <valorie> I should pay better attention
[05:20] <ahoneybun> oh
[05:21] <ahoneybun> well I emailed the digest oops
[05:26] <ahoneybun> well I'm going to get off for the morning lol
[09:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:36] <shadeslayer> hm
[11:36] <shadeslayer> no one uploaded 4.10.2?
[11:36] <shadeslayer> I'll do it then
[11:54] <shadeslayer> huh
[11:55] <shadeslayer> QtCreator depends on Qt5 stuff even though I don't want Qt5 stuff :(
[11:59] <shadeslayer> Mirv: would it make sense to make a qtcreator-qt4 package of sorts with Qt4 deps only?
[11:59] <shadeslayer> because preferably I'd like to not have Qt5 on my system
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:03] <yofel> shadeslayer: why would you not want to have qt5 on your system o.O?
[13:05] <yofel> shadeslayer: that's btw. pretty much impossible unless you double-build it
[13:08] <shadeslayer> well, I just want to make sure everything is build against Qt4 and using QtCreator doesn't introduce Qt5 things in my code
[13:09] <yofel> ah. If setting the default to qt4 doesn't do that though that's a bug IMO
[13:10] <shadeslayer> I see
[13:11] <yofel> I mean, that's what qtchooser was invented for
[13:11] <shadeslayer> I don't think my code has built against Qt5, but I just want to be sure
[13:11] <yofel> check with ldd to be sure?
[13:11] <shadeslayer> yeah I probably will, but not right now
[13:12] <shadeslayer> [13:12] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:13] <yofel> someone probably uploaded to raring without committing
[13:14] <shadeslayer> 4:4.10.1-0ubuntu1b1
[13:14] <shadeslayer> yep
[13:14] <shadeslayer> pitti is to blame :p
[13:17] <shadeslayer> wtf
[13:17] <shadeslayer> IOError: ('http protocol error', 0, 'got a bad status line', None)
[13:17] <yofel> @_@
[13:18] <yofel> how does that happen - unless launchpad is broken again
[13:18] <yofel> add some exception handling and add the failing package to the manual list when that happens
[13:18] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/712310/
[13:21]  * yofel gone for a while
[13:21] <yofel> I'll help later with the updates, in the meanwhile I wish you good luck with launchpad :P
[13:22] <shadeslayer> heh
[13:22] <shadeslayer> I'm going for a haircut myself, will have a look what happened once I get back
[13:56] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1162216] touchscreen does not tap - sometimes @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1162216 (by foggydude)
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> Riddell: are you there?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> I have a sudden urge to buy a fedora
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: evening
[14:59] <shadeslayer> hi phoenix_firebrd
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: haircut done?
[14:59] <shadeslayer> yep
[15:00] <shadeslayer> hm, interesting, flipkart actually has a fedora
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: why buy?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> huh?
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: download, burn and donate?
[15:00] <shadeslayer> lol
[15:00] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: was talking about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora
[15:00] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> now it has become so common i actually forgot that
[15:01] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: shaved ah?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> huh?
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think Launchpad was having a moment of insanity
[15:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: script is working now
[15:02] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: bug something that will be cool for this summer
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: I have a doubt,
[15:03] <shadeslayer> sure
[15:04] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: shoot
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: you must be aware of the arm... real!=double thing, should i use an architecture ifdef or it doesn't matter for other architectures?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> you need to use qreal
[15:05] <shadeslayer> and then it ifdef's accordingly
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: i know
[15:05] <shadeslayer> though you need to use it carefully
[15:05] <shadeslayer> for eg. you might be storing values in a db and that db might get copied between various architechtures
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: so if i use qreal for double for amd64 for example is that ok?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> sigh, I can't spell architectures :/
[15:06] <shadeslayer> phoenix_firebrd: just use qreal
[15:06] <shadeslayer> did you read up on what qreal is
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: so no need of ifdefs>
[15:06] <shadeslayer> like I said, have you read what QReal is
[15:06] <shadeslayer> qreal : Typedef for double on all platforms except for those using CPUs with ARM architectures. On ARM-based platforms, qreal is a typedef for float for performance reasons.
[15:07] <shadeslayer> so it'll equate to double on !arm
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> shadeslayer: haven't read the qt datatypes in detail
[15:07] <shadeslayer> and on arm it'll be float
[15:07] <shadeslayer> you don't have to do anything
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> oh
[15:07] <shadeslayer> no ifdef's needed in your code
[15:07] <shadeslayer> just use qreal wherever you use double
[15:07] <phoenix_firebrd> ok
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> should i need to file an upstream bug report? or not readed?
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> *needed
[15:09] <shadeslayer> can you tell me exactly what you're trying to fix
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> i am sleepy
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> I am packaging nootka and there is an upstream bug
[15:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/712454/
[15:31]  * shadeslayer adds more error handling
[16:03] <ScottK> valorie: Voting isn't for a while.
[16:05] <ScottK> shadeslayer: We're in freeze for Beta 2, so now probably isn't the best time for landing it in the archive.
[16:05] <shadeslayer> ScottK: wasn't going to land it there anyway
[16:06] <shadeslayer> it's still embargoed
[16:06] <ScottK> OK
[16:06] <shadeslayer> so would be going into Ninjas like always
[16:06] <ScottK> You won't be able to when it's released next week either though.  I'll have to be after the beta on Thursday.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> fine with me
[16:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Did you get my ping about rekonq?
[16:07] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:07] <shadeslayer> I do not have an answer for you yet
[16:07] <ScottK> OK.
[16:09] <shadeslayer> it
[16:09] <shadeslayer> *it seems to be pretty outdated :S
[16:20] <murthy_> Riddell: I have updated my nootka branch with a patch fix arm ftbfs https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka
[16:20] <murthy_> Riddell: Haven't tested it yet
[16:21] <murthy_> good night everyone
[16:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you use your iMX for anything?
[17:15] <yofel> shadeslayer: that last error is interesting. But I don't quite get how it would even get there, as it clearly *did* branch bovo
[17:26] <yofel> shadeslayer: did you mess with the basedir value in any way? As with my code here, that error cannot happen at that point
[17:26] <yofel> only way would be for os.mkdir() to silently fail
[17:27] <yofel> bbl
[19:32] <yofel> hm
[19:32] <yofel> shadeslayer: were be me packages? ^^
[20:26] <ScottK> yofel: Careful.  You'll interrupt is beauty sleep.
[20:26] <ScottK> s/is/his/
[20:26] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "yofel: Careful.  You'll interrupt his beauty sleep."
[20:28] <yofel> ^^
[20:48] <yofel> anyone an idea how to debug those skype issues in raring? It breaks when you use a proprietary graphics driver (at least libGl from it) and qtwebkit 2.3. Stop using one of those and it works
[21:15] <valorie> I figured so, but thanks, ScottK