[16:16] <KM0201> Palzieri: depending on where you want to end up... it might be easier to just clean install a current version.
[16:16] <schnuffle> Krishnandu: and there's http://remmina.sourceforge.net/
[16:16] <ubuntucu_ahmet> KM0201: i don't think that , this is dolt or someting so there is no problem here.. but if you say that is, please don't mind..
[16:16] <Jcook_5xData> Krishnandu, sorry I can remember there name I have not used them in years
[16:17] <ubuntucu_ahmet> ActionParsnip: understand thank  you! :)
[16:17] <Krishnandu> schnuffle, Yeah, Jcook_5xData suggested that, and I installed and did my job. Thanks a lot, it was really urgent. :)
[16:17] <kubanc> how could i install libmp3lame.so.0
[16:17] <schnuffle> your welcome
[16:18] <KM0201> libmp3lame?
[16:18] <Palzieri> ok but my cd rom is not working properly
[16:18] <FernandoTertiary> need a developer to assist with E:Could not open file /tmp/aptdaemon-frozen-statusO5DmLB/status - open (2: No such file or directory), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened
[16:18] <Palzieri> bmv
[16:18] <Palzieri> gb
[16:19] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: what did you do?
[16:19] <Pi31415> anyone using a third party piece of software called baudline for audio spectral analysis under 11.04.   i seem to be having trouble with jack and a device menu in the program does not find the audio devices..... TIA
[16:19] <KM0201> Palzieri: can you boot a USB?
[16:19] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: attempted to download the updates amigo
[16:19] <KM0201> !info libmp3lame0 | kubanc install this package would be my guess
[16:19] <Palzieri> ehm I do have USB but I cannot boot from it
[16:19] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: How? did you try a sudo apt-get update ina terminal?
[16:20] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: via Synaptic Update Manager
[16:20] <lucas__> ubuntu br
[16:20] <KM0201> Palzieri: sounds like you might have a problem.
[16:20] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: can you try: sudo apt-get update?
[16:21] <calef13> I'm trying to downgrade ghc to 6.12.2, anyone know how to find the package name for that version?
[16:21] <kubanc> ubottu, thanx for givving me the correct name for the package
[16:21] <KM0201> Palzieri: did you look at that link i gave you t upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 via the internet?
[16:21] <Palzieri> Infact I have put my distro in an old laptop
[16:21] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: that appears to have worked. Gracias amigo!
[16:21] <Palzieri> KM0201 can you give that link back to me?
[16:22] <KM0201> !eol | Palzieri
[16:22] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: When the automic update tool has a lock, you get this problem
[16:22] <psyop> hi, can i easily mess up my system if i install openbox on my ubuntu which already has gnome in use?
[16:22] <eb3ha4el> Why eHDD product have description line for compatibility with OS unlike USB flash memory?
[16:22] <calef13> psyop: no
[16:22] <basilfaulty> I tried to install ubuntu from a usb stick... it seemed to work but failed after a while. The files seem to be on the disk, but it won't boot. I have chroot to the mounted fs but there doesn't seem to be anything in the device.map
[16:23] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: there is a update, & the text reads "end", though when pressing "S" it reads "log file"
[16:23] <KM0201> Palzieri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty    that link is more specific to your issue.
[16:23] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: what should be entered?
[16:23] <eb3ha4el> Will any eHDD work with any OS like USB FM??
[16:24] <Palzieri> So where camn I download a new version? the site doesn't show my case
[16:24] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: still using snyptics? just do a: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:24] <KM0201> Palzieri: look at this link, it tells you exactly what to do... (as did the other link for that matter...) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty
[16:25] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: If you want to stay with synaptics, you'll have to ask somebody else, I don't like it and don't use it
[16:25] <Palzieri> Found!!!!!!!
[16:25] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: it reads the same thing in the Terminal
[16:25] <szal> KM0201: are you sure 9.04 can still be upgraded to anything?  9.10 is also EOL, so I somewhat doubt that
[16:25] <KM0201> szal: of course i'm sure.
[16:26] <Palzieri> But now it requires to have libraries written in my /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:26] <KM0201> szal: did you read the link?... there's ways to upgrade EOL releases,
[16:26] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: normally it asks you if you want to upgrade the packages and you can accept with yes
[16:26] <KM0201> Palzieri: yeah..?
[16:26] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: can you paste the output
[16:26] <Palzieri> yes
[16:26] <KM0201> Palzieri: why is adding sources an issue, thats the only way you're gonna complete an upgrade in this situation,.
[16:27] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: yes, then it stops with a /tmp location, then suggests "end" then posteri pressing "s" it reads "log file: "
[16:27] <Palzieri> but now is it enough if I add the links to my sources.list file??
[16:27] <FernandoTertiary>  -- Marc Deslauriers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Tue, 31 May 2011 05:48:25 -0400
[16:27] <FernandoTertiary> log file:
[16:27] <KM0201> Palzieri: are you reading the links i gave you?...
[16:27] <Palzieri> yes
[16:27] <ronin__> hi how can i install gcc-3.4 on ubuntu 10.10
[16:27] <KM0201> they tell you EXACTLY WHAT TO DO>
[16:27] <nimbiotics> hiexpo: im on 10.10
[16:27] <clusterfusk> I can't see my linux box in the workgroup on a windows xp pro system, but can on other linux systems.  Is something wrong with my smb.conf?  http://dpaste.com/550108/
[16:28] <Palzieri> it says to have certain links written in my sources.list
[16:28] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: hmm, no idea what's going wrong
[16:28] <Palzieri> I checked but there aren't
[16:28] <KM0201> right, so add themt o your source list, are you saying you don't know how to add them?
[16:28] <KM0201> no, it says to "make sure you have them" so if you don't, you need to add them.
[16:28] <Palzieri> sadly yes
[16:28] <lucidguy> Ubuntu 10.04 server vm ... with no X11.  Will be LAMP server, do I really need any of the VM tools installed?
[16:28] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: have you some update applet in the panel?
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> !screenshot
[16:29] <Palzieri> when I try and add them it says I haven't got the permission to do it add them
[16:29] <KM0201> Palzieri: just run gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      enter your password and when it opens up, copy EVERYTHING thats in that box on the howto... into your source list... then save, close, then run sudo apt-get update
[16:29] <indicator> Hello. I was using Optimus previous when I installed ubuntu, and my native resolution was at 1080p on startup (grub/tty) but now that I'm using discrete, my resolution has hit its minimum
[16:29] <FernandoTertiary> schnuffle: am attempting to discern what to enter posteri "log file: "
[16:29] <indicator> Where do I configure this?
[16:29] <Palzieri> doing it....
[16:30] <KM0201> Palzieri: just keep in mind, after you upgrade jaunty to karmic, karmic is also end of life, so you'll likely want to upgrade karmic to lucid.
[16:30] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: I don't know, why not just enter something like /tmp/update.log?
[16:30] <hiexpo> man sounds like a fresh install would be easier
[16:31] <kerebrus> Is there a way to disable hd mount icons on the desktop?
[16:31] <schnuffle> FernandoTertiary: but you /tmp directory exists?
[16:33] <KM0201> Palzieri: how old a laptop is this?.. i'm surprised it can't boot USB (mine is 7yrs old, and it can)
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> kerebus: are you on natty?
[16:33] <basilfaulty> anyone know grub?
[16:33] <indicator> Dr. Google does... :o
[16:33] <basilfaulty> :)
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> lol indicator
[16:34] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: What's the problem?
[16:34] <basilfaulty> dr google has given me some medicine, but it still isn't working
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> kerebrus: are you on natty?
[16:34] <clusterfusk> !ask
[16:34] <basilfaulty> My ubuntu install failed, but all files seem to be on the drive, installing from usb. Doesn't seem to be a MBR on the drive and can't get grub to sort it
[16:35] <kerebrus> lotuspsychje im still on maverick, havent updated yet.
[16:35] <basilfaulty> should I chroot to the drive before I run grub?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> kerebrus: sudo gconf-editor and disable volumes in apps/nautilus/desktop
[16:36] <Palzieri> It says error 404
[16:36] <KM0201> Palzieri: weird, that way should be supported.
[16:36] <KM0201> sounds like you're pretty well screwed
[16:37] <kerebrus> lotuspsychje awesome, thanks
[16:37] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: chroot and run grub-install.  don't forget to mount/bind /dev and /boot
[16:37] <KM0201> !pastebin | Palzieri please pastebin your sources.list and give me the link
[16:37] <Palzieri> ah wait, I didn't take out the #s on the optional ones
[16:37] <basilfaulty> when I run grub from the usb it gives an error about "unable to stat aufs"
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> kerebrus: np ; )
[16:37] <Palzieri> hehe
[16:37] <KM0201> ..
[16:37] <edbian> basilfaulty: Do you already have ubuntu installed?  What are you trying to do?  I can help
[16:38] <basilfaulty> clusterfusk: I've gone for just a / partition, do I still need to mount the dirs u mention?
[16:38] <arya_> hi everyone... wireshark is not working in my ubuntu.. its not listing the interfaces.. whereas in windows its showing the realtek and i am able to use it... whats the problem here?
[16:39] <edbian> arya_: Run it as root
[16:39] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: if boot is on the same partition, you can skip that, you you do need to bind /dev so it's visible to grub inside the chroot
[16:39] <kerebrus> arya i made a icon on my desktop with the command gksu wireshark works fine for me.
[16:40] <basilfaulty> aha, it's complaining about no /dev/null and no /boot/grub
[16:41] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: sudo mount -o bind /dev /whereveryouhaverootmounted
[16:41] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: sudo mount -o bind /dev /whereveryouhaverootmounted/dev
[16:41] <KM0201> Palzieri: did it work?
[16:41] <Palzieri> # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release i386 (20081029.5)]/ intrepid main restricted
[16:41] <Palzieri> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[16:41] <Palzieri> # newer versions of the distribution.
[16:41] <Palzieri> deb http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[16:41] <Palzieri> deb-src http://ch.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[16:41] <FloodBot1> Palzieri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:41] <Palzieri> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[16:42] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: ignore the first one without the /dev on the end
[16:42] <arya_> edbian: thanx a lot.. can you also tell me how can i see the list of all urls which are open in my browser on terminal?
[16:42] <clusterfusk> !paste | Palzieri
[16:42] <edbian> arya_: I don't know of an easy way to do that
[16:43] <FloodBot1> Palzieri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <Palzieri> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[16:43] <edbian> arya_: That's info that firefox holds (you could edit the source to print it for you).  Otherwise you'll have to capture the packets when the connects to those urls are made.  There will be a hailstorm of packets
[16:44] <KM0201> Palzieri: use a pastebin so i can actually see what you pasted.. (or did you get it to work)
[16:44] <basilfaulty> clusterfusk:I tried /whereveryouhaverootmounted as /media/1e12d768-afad-4605-ad7d-88dc6c52cff7 (which it can't find as that's now /) not sure what I'm supposed to put in there
[16:44] <basilfaulty> (with the /dev on the end)
[16:44] <arya_> edbian : how can i edit the source and fro where?
[16:45] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: no.  mount/bind BEFORE you chroot
[16:45] <basilfaulty> aha =D
[16:45] <basilfaulty> can I unchroot? :)
[16:46] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: just type "exit" and hit enter
[16:46] <oCean> !afk > HammerTiem
[16:46] <basilfaulty> just /dev or /boot too?
[16:46] <edbian> arya_: No offense but if you don't know where to get source you aren't going to be able to edit it :)
[16:46] <arya_> ok you mean the source code?
[16:46] <edbian> arya_: Having said that: http://www.mozilla.org/developer/
[16:46] <edbian> arya_: Yes, the source code
[16:47] <arya_> ok that i know.. so what changes do i need to do ... like what command so that it will print on the terminal?
[16:47] <nabi> Hi
[16:47] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: you said your target /boot is on the same partition as your target / so you should only need to bind /dev
[16:47] <nabi> please help me
[16:47] <clusterfusk> !ask | nabi
[16:47] <edbian> arya_: That's the hard part.  It would take me too much time to figure it out.  Sorry, on your own here.  What is the ultimate goal here?
[16:47] <jordotech> anyone know how to attach a file and email using mutt?  this isn't working for some reason... mutt -a filetoattach.tar.gz  -s 'this is the subject'<EMAIL_ADDRESS>< test.txt
[16:48] <nabi> I want to setup internet access for my vpn users
[16:48] <basilfaulty> when I chroot, is it just that term that changes?
[16:48] <nabi> I have ubuntu 11.04
[16:48] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: yes.
[16:48] <jordotech> that gives the error 'Can't stat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>no such file or directory'
[16:48] <arya_> i just wanna write a bash script to show all urls opened.. just a curiosity
[16:49] <mehdi> hey guys wat is the keyring for?
[16:49] <arya_> edbian :i just wanna write a bash script to show all urls opened.. just a curiosity
[16:49] <edbian> arya_: Yeah it would be hard.
[16:49] <nabi> please help me
[16:49] <basilfaulty> awesome, thanks :) "Installation finished. No error reported."
[16:49] <Scunizi> nabi: put your question on one line.. don't ask for help.. just ask your question clearly
[16:49] <edbian> arya_: Perhaps you'll be lucky and that is already printed out in some debugging info or something.
[16:49] <clusterfusk> basilfaulty: try booting and tell me if it works.
[16:49] <arya_> edbian: can you suggest me a tutorial or something?
[16:50] <arya_> edbian: i tried to look for it but didnt get anything
[16:50] <edbian> arya_: man firefox    would be a good starting point
[16:50] <Palzieri> ,,,
[16:50] <nabi> I want to enable my vpn users to access Internet through their VPN connection.my vpn server is Ubuntu 11.04
[16:51] <JuJuBee> When I try to enter sudo route add -net <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> gw spme.public.ip.address eth0 I get this : SIOCADDRT: No such process
[16:51] <clusterfusk> I can cross off give tech support while high on pain pills from my bucket list now.
[16:51] <clusterfusk> I can't see my linux box in the workgroup on a windows xp pro system, but can on other linux systems.  Is something wrong with my smb.conf?  http://dpaste.com/550108/
[16:52] <unop> jordotech, try putting the recipient's address as the first argument.   mutt<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-a file -s subject < message.txt
[16:52] <nabi> I want to enable my vpn users to access Internet through their VPN connection.my vpn server is Ubuntu 11.04
[16:53] <nabi> please someone tell me how
[16:53] <nabi> ?
[16:54] <Palzieri> what is a pastebin???
[16:54] <clusterfusk> !paste | Palzieri
[16:54] <ct529> !pastebin
[16:55] <nabi> hello
[16:55] <unop> Palzieri, a webservice that allows you to upload some text to show to other people .. you then just give them the url.
[16:55] <Palzieri> like arab 4 me
[16:55] <Palzieri> I have to open http page ok
[16:55] <Palzieri> and then??
[16:56] <Pici> Palzieri: Paste your text at http://paste.ubuntu.com, then press the [Paste!] button, then give us the URL of the page it sends you to.
[16:56] <jcapinc> are there any web developers in here?
[16:56] <clusterfusk> nabi: if somebody knows how to help you and wants to, they will.  be patient and wait a while before asking again.
[16:56] <jcapinc> fellow web developers that work in ubuntu?
[16:56] <Pici> jcapinc: Likely, best to just ask your question.
[16:56] <nabi> ok
[16:56] <jcapinc> How do you  guys test in IE
[16:56] <clusterfusk> jcapinc: me.
[16:57] <clusterfusk> jcapinc: virtualbox
[16:57] <yog> hello, I have a problem with metacity transparency(?) I enabled it with gconf and it still doesn't work properly; (this is how cairo-dock looks like http://bildr.no/image/897025.jpeg)
[16:57] <edbian> jcapinc: I don't worry about it
[16:58] <jcapinc> any other way? virtualbox is such a memory hog
[16:58] <jcapinc> edbian, I dont have the luxury of not having to worry about it
[16:58] <KM0201> Palzieri: is it working?
[16:59] <clusterfusk> jcapinc: if yoou have another box, you could access your test server across the lan.
[16:59] <Madmoe> hello everybody
[16:59] <edbian> jcapinc: :/
[16:59] <Madmoe> I have a small complicated question
[17:00] <Madmoe> I dont knwo where the error exist
[17:00] <yog> hello, I have a problem with metacity transparency(?) I enabled it with gconf and it still doesn't work properly; (this is how cairo-dock looks like http://bildr.no/view/897025 [wrong link previous time])
[17:00] <nicofs> I can't connect to my WLAN. Either I get "bad password" (pw is correct!) or "can't get IP"... what can I do?
[17:00] <Madmoe> I have a Triple Boot MacBookPro 7,1 with OSx, WinSeven and Ubuntu 11.04
[17:01] <Palzieri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/617637/ù
[17:01] <Palzieri> http://paste.ubuntu.com/617637/
[17:01] <KM0201> Palzieri: ok, is it working?
[17:01] <Palzieri> what?
[17:01] <KM0201> the upgrade?
[17:01] <Palzieri> I am a bit confused
[17:01] <Madmoe> when i installed Ubuntu and going into grub and choose windows seven (loader) grub crashes with error 15: File not found!
[17:02] <KM0201> Palzieri: whats confusing? the instructions are clear as can be
[17:02] <Palzieri> how can I see it??
[17:02] <amero> hey how do we install a package from ppa when the package name clashes with one from the offical repo
[17:02] <Palzieri> do I have to reboot?
[17:02] <KM0201> Palzieri: no
[17:02] <Madmoe> fdisk -l doesnt show the sda5
[17:02] <KM0201> hold on a second
[17:03] <Madmoe> but i cant visually see the windows hard disk and mount it!! with everything intact
[17:03] <KM0201> Palzieri: ok, now what part confuses you?
[17:03] <chris_> yo dawg
[17:03] <Madmoe> can someone help me PLEASE!!!
[17:04] <Guest48582> sup homie
[17:04] <Guest48582> NO.
[17:04] <Palzieri> what command should I give to check my actual version???
[17:04] <martich2> on 10.04 how can i check to see what driver is being used for the video card? The card is a ATI Rage XL rev 27
[17:04] <Guest48582> your all gay.
[17:05] <KM0201> Palzieri: lsb_release -a
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> !10.04 | martich2
[17:06] <martich2> lotuspsychje, i was thinking more of a command
[17:06] <Guest48582> ad
[17:06] <Guest48582> ad
[17:06] <Guest48582> sa
[17:06] <Guest48582> dad
[17:06] <Guest48582> s
[17:06] <FloodBot1> Guest48582: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <martich2> ...
[17:06] <NepoO> yo
[17:06] <Madmoe> is there another channel for support??
[17:07] <Guest48582> as
[17:07] <Guest48582> as
[17:07] <Guest48582> a
[17:07] <Guest48582> s
[17:07] <FloodBot1> Guest48582: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <Guest48582> sd
[17:07] <Palzieri> It still says I have Jaunty 9.04
[17:07] <KM0201> Palzieri: for cryin out loud, answer my PM
[17:07] <Palzieri> can you do it again??
[17:08] <Palzieri> I want to die
[17:09] <KM0201> Palzieri: i've pm'd you 4x...
[17:09] <KM0201> Palzieri: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #km0201"
[17:09] <Pici> !patience | Madmoe
[17:09] <Palzieri> what "to pm" means?
[17:09] <KM0201> Palzieri: private message.
[17:10] <KM0201> jsut type that and join me in a private chat before you brick something.
[17:10] <Kaveh8> hi
[17:10] <Palzieri> how can I see it??? 1st time in this chat
[17:10] <Pici> Palzieri: Perhaps #ubuntu-it would be easier for you to understand? That is our Italian support channel.
[17:11] <Palzieri> I do understand english
[17:11] <KM0201> lol.. i have my doubts
[17:11] <Palzieri> I am just new to Linux
[17:11] <Madmoe> fdisk -l doesnt show the sda5  but i cant visually see the windows hard disk and mount it!! with everything intact
[17:11] <Pici> Madmoe: How are you mounting it then?
[17:11] <IdleOne> Palzieri: PM is an abbreviation for Private Message
[17:11] <n8wulf> Palzieri: What would you like help with?
[17:11] <KM0201> Palzieri: type this w/o quotes... "/join #km0201"
[17:11] <Madmoe> Going into grub and choose windows seven (loader) grub crashes with error 15: File not found!
[17:11] <Kaveh8> i downloaded some login windows from www.art.gnome.org
[17:12] <anandrd> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 on an iMac G5 yesterday (using the alternate install). It installed successfully (the basic system; not including X). However, when I boot into it, the moment the TTY login screen appears, the display is extremely garbled.
[17:12] <anandrd> Before that, everything is fine.
[17:12] <Kaveh8> but i dont khnow how i can install them?
[17:12] <Madmoe> Pici: Im using Natty double clicking on the hard disk name
[17:12] <Madmoe> all the windows files are there
[17:12] <Pici> Madmoe: And what is displayed in the output of:  mount
[17:12] <Kaveh8> plz someone help me
[17:12] <anandrd> Does anyone have any experience with this?
[17:13] <Madmoe> im visually mounting the hard disk
[17:13] <KM0201> ..
[17:13] <Madmoe> but i cannot boot from it using GRUB
[17:13] <Madmoe> i get an error file not found
[17:13] <Pici> Madmoe: It says file not found when you just type on a terminal; mount   ?
[17:13] <ethered> hi
[17:14] <anandrd> This is on a PowerPC using the yaboot loader.
[17:14] <Madmoe> Pici: file not found if i boot from grub and choose the windows seven loader
[17:15] <shuvam> Hiii
[17:15] <Madmoe> Pici: One more thing my logical partitions are OSX then Linux then Linux SWAP then Windows
[17:16] <Madmoe> and when i do fdisk -l OSX LINUX AND LINUX SWAP appears
[17:16] <Kaveh8> i downloaded some login windows from art.gnome.org
[17:16] <solsTiCe> hi. How do I change grub2 conf so that it installs in partition header instead of MBR at next update ?
[17:16] <Pici> Madmoe: Can you please 'visually mount' the partition and pastebin the output of   mount
[17:16] <Kaveh8> i dont know how i can install them?
[17:17] <Pici> Kaveh8: The version of GDM that we use in Ubuntu nowadays does not support the old-style themes.
[17:17] <KM0201> Palzieri: did you figure this out yet?
[17:17] <Kaveh8> ok
[17:18] <Madmoe> Pici: how to past the output
[17:18] <Kaveh8> Pici: what can i do?
[17:18] <Pici> !paste | Madmoe
[17:18] <bignono1> www.pastebin.com
[17:18] <Pici> Kaveh8: I don't know how to tange the graphics in GDM now, sorry :/
[17:19] <Kaveh8> Pici: can i change my login window?
[17:19] <Kaveh8> by another way?
[17:20] <Pici> Kaveh8: GDM is the login window.  I don't know how to change that.
[17:20] <Madmoe> Pici: how to past the outputi have double clicked the hard disk name and i can see the folders and everything in it
[17:20] <Madmoe> but what do u mean by paste the output
[17:20] <Pici> Madmoe: Open a terminal.  type this:   mount    press enter.  and then paste that output onto a pastebin.
[17:20] <Madmoe> ah ok
[17:21] <Palzieri> ttt
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows a website with screenshots of ubuntu user desktops?
[17:21] <TheeSaga> lotuspsychje: The Ubuntu Forums has a thread, let me find it for you.
[17:22] <wviana> hi, what is the channel of C program ?
[17:22] <KM0201> Palzieri: still lost?
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> TheeSaga: cool tnx alot
[17:22] <Madmoe> Pici: i just did
[17:22] <TheeSaga> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1772639
[17:22] <TheeSaga> You'll need to sign up as a user to view the pictures.
[17:23] <wviana> Im needing a help to a program in C, some one that can help me ?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> TheeSaga: tnx mate nice thread..i m always curious of other ppl screenz
[17:23] <Pici> wviana: The folks in ##C can help.  But you'll need to register/identify to join.
[17:23] <Pici> !register > wviana
[17:23] <Pici> Madmoe: You need to provide us with the URL of the resulting page.
[17:24] <Palzieri> It doesn't work
[17:24] <TheeSaga> lotuspsychje: Yeah it's a nice thread, they do it every month and it gets a lot of responses.
[17:24] <Palzieri> I am going for dinner now
[17:24] <Palzieri> see ya
[17:24] <Dexter> how do I make a folder be owned by 0?
[17:25] <Madmoe> hehehe sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/617650/
[17:25] <Madmoe> Pici: i was woundering how u gona see my pastie
[17:25] <wviana> Some one know how I can read the files of a folder with C program?
[17:26] <Psydoll> hello i need help trying to get compiz to work for me can someone lend a hand?
[17:26] <sipior> wviana: the channel ##C might be of some use to you.
[17:26] <oCean> !nickspam > HammerTiem
[17:27] <wviana> ok
[17:27] <wviana> thanks u
[17:27] <pangaea> sudo mkdir ##
[17:27] <pangaea> should be owned by root i think
[17:28] <pangaea> Psydol: whats it not doing
[17:28] <Psydoll> whats the command to list the devices ls pci....?
[17:28] <Psydoll> i forget
[17:28] <pangaea> lspci
[17:28] <Dexter> is root user ID's 0?
[17:28] <sipior> Dexter: yes.
[17:28] <Psydoll> pangaea: its not working at all ive installed it and everything
[17:28] <Dexter> will this then work? sudo chown root:root /usr/share/games/FlightGear
[17:28] <pangaea> Psydoll: what you running
[17:28] <Psydoll> ubuntu
[17:29] <pangaea> 11.04
[17:29] <Pici> Madmoe: It says there that you have /dev/sda5 mounted on /media/BOOTCAMP is that where you can see your windows files there?
[17:29] <Psydoll> no 10.04
[17:29] <Madmoe> Pici: Is it the case where i have to reinstall grub from a live CD?
[17:29] <Madmoe> Pici: YES!!
[17:29] <grumete> if I make a big swap partition, it will lead to a better processor performance?
[17:29] <pangaea> Psydoll: install the compiz config manager
[17:29] <pangaea> and run it
[17:29] <leao> hi guys
[17:29] <leao> I installed Eclipse from terminal
[17:29] <leao> but it downloaded a weird version of it
[17:30] <leao> that i wasnt used to
[17:30] <braiam_> how I can repair my locales? I screw up the whole thing!
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> TheeSaga: i like this one :p http://ompldr.org/vOHdodw
[17:30] <leao> or nvm its too crowded atm, ill ask it later
[17:30] <pangaea> Psydoll: look in synaptic for compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:31] <Pici> Madmoe: do you know which version of grub you are using?
[17:31] <babalu> hello guys
[17:31] <codeshah> hey guys, I am trying to setup vbulletin but it keeps saying one file is not writable... I added my username to group www-data & even chmod 777
[17:31] <codeshah> any ideas?
[17:31] <sipior> grumete: a certain amount of swap is needed for optimum performance. past a certain point, a larger swap partition will make no difference.
[17:31] <Madmoe> grub2
[17:31] <Madmoe> Pici: grub2
[17:31] <Madmoe> Pici: i guess not
[17:32] <braiam_> or at least, how can I rerun the installation wizard?
[17:33] <Kindari> Is there a version of ubuntu compatible with a i686 cpu?
[17:34] <sipior> Kindari: the base 32-bit install should be just fine.
[17:34] <Pici> Madmoe: I believe that you'll need to reinstall grub2 to fix this.  Take a look at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB2
[17:34] <Kindari> "This kernel requires a x86-64 CPU, but only detected a i686".
[17:35] <Kindari> So then download the 32 bit. Ok.
[17:35] <babalu> whats better for gaming intel processors or amd?
[17:35] <virtual> alquien habla en español?
[17:35] <antivirtel> hi! How often has the wtmp been cleared? (Source of `last` command)
[17:35] <babalu> yo
[17:35] <babalu> hablo espanol
[17:35] <sipior> babalu: makes no difference.
[17:35] <braiam_> !es virtual
[17:35] <Pici> !es | babalu
[17:35] <virtual> sweet
[17:36] <virtual> soy nuevo en esto
[17:36] <braiam_> !es | virtual
[17:36] <babalu> metete a ese canal k acaban de poner
[17:36] <babalu> escribe eso para meterte a la comunidad hispana
[17:36] <sipior> babalu: no habla
[17:37] <virtual> no entiendo bien
[17:37] <virtual> q es elo q tengo q poner
[17:37] <Pici> virtual: Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[17:37] <Madmoe> Pici: can i use the 11.04 live CD?
[17:38] <Pici> Madmoe: Sure.
[17:38] <Madmoe> Pici: and where should i go into the advanced mode?
[17:39] <braiam_> virtual: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:39] <Madmoe> Pici: or i can just PPA boot-repair reight!!
[17:39] <Pici> Madmoe: right.
[17:39] <html_inprogress>  does anyone know of a distro called katana ?
[17:40] <tensorpudding> html_inprogress: no
[17:40] <Pici> html_inprogress: This channel is for Ubuntu only.  Try ##linux
[17:41] <html_inprogress> it has linux on it silly, like 4 distro packed into it , and even got on tv for it
[17:41] <slack-m> Source to sacc now avalible! Current builds: Windows Standard ioUrT, Windows bumpy ioUrT and Linux.i386 Should have x86_64 linux build tomorrow. Download here: http://forums.pugbot.com/index.php?topic=66.0
[17:41] <Pici> slack-m: Please don't do that here.
[17:44] <sine__> libfish.so for ubuntu 64bit does anyone has it
[17:44] <IdleOne> sine__: install libfishsound1
[17:45] <servet_cnc> hello!
[17:45] <Pici> IdleOne: I don't see libfish.so in that package.
[17:46] <Madmoe> Pici: just did that i'll restart and get back to you
[17:46] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[17:46] <sine__> IdleOne: im on a shell where the admin cant install it, i dont have root
[17:47] <servet_cnc> my chromium does not udpates my extensions when i click on "update extension" button from Tools-->extensions->developer mode-->update extensions button. can someone help me please ?
[17:49] <IdleOne> Pici: I did a quick search for libfish, didn't check the package, perhaps I should have
[17:49] <IdleOne> sine__: it's ok doesn't seem to be the right package anyway
[17:50] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[17:50] <SpaceBass> I've got my ffmpeg and related libraries all screwed up ? how can I purge ffmpeg, x264 and everything related so I can start again?
[17:50] <SpaceBass> apt-get purge and reinstall doesn't seem to do it
[17:51] <Egbert9e9> after i ssh into a remote box, open "screen", detach and close the ssh session, when i ssh back again and open a new "screen" window, i get "username@boxname:(unreachable)/$"
[17:52] <Egbert9e9> anyone knows what's going on? how do i keep the ecryptfs mounted even when there're no sessions open?
[17:52] <Magentium> Looking for Help with Gnome Panel Menu
[17:53] <Magentium> But Unsure if this is the correct Channel
[17:53] <TheeSaga> Magentium: Doesn't hurt to ask ;)
[17:53] <johannes_> could some kinds soul help me with adding different wallpapers to the 4 different desktops ? i have followed the instructions on the tutorial to the letter...but only the old wallpaper shows
[17:53] <Magentium> Well i am currently trying to see if there is a way, to get the GNome Panel Menu to "cascade" the menu, instead of list it vertically
[17:54] <Magentium> You see, i have A LOT of applications, and it takes way too long to go down the list to find them, does anyone know how to make it open sideways or anything to that nature
[17:54] <TheeSaga> Magentium: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:55] <Magentium> Currently i am using Ubuntu Ultimate 2.9 which is based off of 10.10
[17:55] <rww> Magentium: Ubuntu Ultimate isn't an official derivative of Ubuntu, and thus is not supported here.
[17:56] <Magentium> I have already contacted the ubuntu ultimate IRC Channel and they told me to ask here, because it is a Gnome problem, not ubuntu Ultimate.
[17:56] <rww> Magentium: They were incorrect; we don't support their distro here.
[17:56] <akashm1990> trying to change GRUB bootorder (ubuntu 11.04 )
[17:56] <Magentium> What about my desktop install? it is just a simple 10.10 install
[17:56] <akashm1990> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst file doesnt exist
[17:56] <Magentium> Retail 10.10 install, is there any way to change the Menu for that ?
[17:56] <akashm1990> *want to change the order of boot
[17:57] <akashm1990> make windows default
[17:57] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: you need to edit /etc/default/grub
[17:57] <Devio> hello! I've got a really annoying problem which has been escalating recently.  Every so often if I press ctrl(more recently it just does it randomly) I get locked out of any drop down menus including right click, my type cursor acts as if whatever I try type in isn't selected and I cant move any windows around.(sorry for the mass text)
[17:58] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: there is a variable GRUB_DEFAULT, you set it to the name of the entry you want default
[17:58] <Magentium> Is there a Gnome Channel ?
[17:58] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: then run 'sudo update-grub', which updates the actual grub configuration
[17:58] <coz_> Magentium,  the main gnome channel I believe is on gimpnet  under #gnome
[17:58] <tensorpudding> Magentium: Gnome has its own network, gimpnet
[17:59] <tensorpudding> Magentium: i can't say it's very good, though you may get gnome help there
[17:59] <Magentium> I am simply looking for a Gnome Panel help but i cant find anything on google :(
[17:59] <Magentium> Or a replacement to the Gnome Menu Applet
[17:59] <coz_> Magentium,  there is a #gnome channel here on freenode but not sure how effective or responsive they are
[17:59] <akashm1990> tensorpudding, so, I cannot move windows to the top of the list? since everytime there is a Ubuntu update, the serial no. of WIndows will change
[17:59] <tensorpudding> Magentium: what exactly is it you're looking for?
[18:00] <coz_> Magentium,  there are several optioins for gnome menu if you right click  Add to panel
[18:00] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: what do you mean, "the serial no."
[18:00] <coz_> Magentium,  unless y ou are on Unity that is
[18:00] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: the name of the windows entry won't change, though its position may; if you specify it by name in the GRUB_DEFAULT variable, it will always choose the right one
[18:00] <TheeSaga> He's not on Unity
[18:00] <Magentium> I am just currently running Gnome 2, and i have the Custom Menu on my panel ( The one with Applications, Places, System)
[18:00] <Devio> No one?
[18:00] <akashm1990> tensorpudding, ohk.. I'll do it like that
[18:01] <akashm1990> can I see the list of names  in the bootmenu without rebooting
[18:01] <StudyingHard> I've found that ubuntu 9.10 (i.e. karmic) is no longer going to have updates released. What are the implications if I don't update? How risky might this become and how long would it take to get risky from the last update? Also, what are the alternatives to not-updating? The only one that comes to mind is upgrading to ubuntu 10, but given that I use an old machine, that's probably going to make it even slower. Do I have another
[18:01] <Magentium> I am seeking help to make it that when one of those are clicked, instead of LISTING the programs in a vertical way, i wish to have the horizontal
[18:01] <coz_> Devio,   I havent experienced that ,, at least no yet
[18:01] <coz_> Devio,  is this 11.04  unity or classic?
[18:01] <Omega> Devio: I've never seen that problem before, you should try on the ubuntuforums, or look on launchpad to see if it's a known bug
[18:01] <Magentium> because i have a lot of programs installed for KDE, GDM, and XFCE, they are showing it too many at once
[18:02] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: the actual configuration that grub uses is in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, you can read that file and look for what it calls the windows entry
[18:02] <n8wulf> Devio: sorry mate, that is the weirdest I've ever seen
[18:02] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: don't edit that file directly though, since it gets rewritten every time you install a new kernel
[18:02] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  you may want to start using one of the gnome-do type apps that you access programs via the keyboard/search terms - i rarely use the menus any more for launching apps
[18:02] <Devio> omega: I've tried ubuntu forums, no one replied and I dont want to make another post.  coz_: ubuntu 11.04 as of today but i updated to get away from the problem which started in 10.10
[18:03] <Magentium> Dr_Willis, i only use the menu because i have no idea what apps are installed :P Is there any other sort of, application browser ?
[18:03] <n8wulf> Devio: you updated, yes?
[18:03] <tensorpudding> Devio: are you using classic?
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  theres also some alternative menu applets you may want to try.
[18:03] <coz_> Devio,   hmm,,  I cant say I have heard of this one before,, I kn ow I have not experienced it,,,
[18:03] <Devio> n8wulf: yes tensorpudding: yes
[18:03] <Magentium> Dr_Willis, do you have any links or recommendations for the custom menu applets?
[18:03] <TheeSaga> Magentium: Avant Windows Manager is a Gnome-Panel Alternative that has a couple of different options for the style of menu's, one that's Unity-like.
[18:03] <Devio> coz_: thanks anyway :)
[18:03] <Magentium> I currently use Avant and Docky :) Love those programs
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  theres ppa's for teh mint-menu thats pupular. and i think one or 2 other menu applets for various docks and an alternative menu applet for the panel.
[18:04] <akashm1990> tensorpudding, is this change in /etc/default/grub OK?  GRUB_DEFAULT="Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)"
[18:04] <tensorpudding> Devio: i've been hit with this bug a lot
[18:04] <n8wulf> Devio: maybe try a backup of your Docs and the Settings to most importeant Apps like yuour Email client and eg. Dropbox, then format and Vanilla install
[18:04] <Magentium> oh, I may look for Mint-Menu, i loved that menu
[18:04] <tensorpudding> akashm1990: that could be it, is that the text you see in the grub menu?
[18:04] <Psydoll> hey folks are the command line commands the same for all linux operating systems/ditrobutions with a few small differenceS?
[18:04] <akashm1990> yes, I copied from there
[18:04] <Magentium> Thank your Dr_Willis for your amazing help! if i run into problems i will look back to here
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  i think the webupd8 ppa may have it.
[18:04] <tensorpudding> Devio: it only happens to me in unity though, not classic
[18:04] <n8wulf> Psydoll: yes, pretty much
[18:04] <Devio> tensorpudding: really?!  n8wulf: yeah that seems to be the case... I'd have to write down everything I've installed via the terminal :P
[18:05] <Psydoll> n8wulf: THANKS
[18:05] <Devio> tensorpudding: unity is the new 11.04 thing yeah?
[18:05] <tensorpudding> Devio: yes
[18:05] <Magentium> Also, has anyone heard of the Ubuntu on a HTC desire HD ?
[18:05] <n8wulf> :)
[18:05] <coz_> be back in a bit
[18:05] <TheeSaga> Magentium: Have you tried the applet named 'AWN Main Menu'? It might suit you better.
[18:05] <Magentium> AWN main menu? not unfortunately i havent, i shall look into that now :)
[18:05] <n8wulf> yeah, awn is cool
[18:05] <tensorpudding> Devio: i fixed it by hitting super+d to minimize windows, then unminimizing them by hitting the key again
[18:05] <Devio> tensorpudding: like randomly now the cursor cant decide whether I'm allowed to type or not it's flashing on and off, proper strange
[18:06] <Magentium> n8wulf, Awn certainly is nice, i like your style
[18:06] <tensorpudding> Devio: actually, your bug might be different than mine, since typing works fine
[18:06] <tensorpudding> Devio: i just can't select other windows, or use the mouse at all
[18:06] <Devio> tensorpudding: in fairness that's the only problem i can deal with holding ctrl to move windows or access menus
[18:07] <tensorpudding> Devio: i've had this bug since before natty released, i assume they'll manage to fix it sometime
[18:07] <n8wulf> Magentium: I switched to Unity Vanilla last week, you won't believe how many times my Mouse goes South lookin for my Awn
[18:07] <Devio> tensorpudding: i can use my mouse which is weird
[18:07] <nadim> Hi all - been having a REALLY tough time with apache2 (on lucid) - I thought it was the router, so I removed it and am now connected straight into the cable modem, the ISP (cox) says they are not blocking ports but I can't seem to be able to access port 80 from the outside - localhost works just fine.  Ideas ?
[18:07] <GatoLoko> hi
[18:07] <StudyingHard> I've found that ubuntu 9.10 (i.e. karmic) is no longer going to have updates released. What are the implications if I don't update? How risky might this become and how long would it take to get risky from the last update? Also, what are the alternatives to not-updating? The only one that comes to mind is upgrading to ubuntu 10, but given that I use an old machine, that's probably going to make it even slower. Do I have another
[18:08] <Magentium> n8wulf : i tried to use Natty Narwhal on this laptop but it lags VERY BADLY because of my ATI Card, another thing i am looking for help with
[18:08] <th^^> StudyingHard: 10.04 isn't really much more demanding, quite the contracty actually
[18:08] <th^^> StudyingHard: and it's supported for 3 years on desktop, so you should upgrade to that
[18:08] <n8wulf> Magentium: Unity basic?
[18:09] <GatoLoko> can somebody tell me how/where to report that a package has been linked in launchpad to the wrong upstream?
[18:09] <sofiankrt> hello
[18:09] <ndlovu> I've got a problem with rhythmbox not connecting to musicbrainz to identify CDs on lucid (rhythhmbox 0.12.8-0ubuntu7). seems it's a recognised problem (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+question/158253). Is it fixed in later versions of ubuntu?
[18:09] <Pici> GatoLoko: You could mention it in #launchpad
[18:09] <Magentium> n8wulf : Well really just Natty. I read up that there is a known problem where Compiz and Natty dont like it each other. Typing etc is fast, but moving windows and stuff is sluggish. With and without unity activated
[18:09] <n8wulf> Magentium: is funny it lags, I've got a Intel VGA and it's 100%
[18:10] <sofiankrt> I just installed Natty, got ccsm and enabled desktop cube. Everything crashed and now I can use neither Unity nor Compiz. Help!
[18:10] <nadim> Is there anything in a vanilla Lucid that blocks incoming port 80 connections (netstat notes that its listening)
[18:10] <Magentium> n8wulf, yes, when i run it on my other laptop with a GMA 950 Chipset its fast, its a problem with ATI Drivers
[18:10] <Devio> gonna go have a mess about and try and fix this, thanks all!
[18:10] <n8wulf> nadim: there shouldn't be
[18:11] <Magentium> I found that Natty is slow with ATI, and doesnt like installing NVIDIA Drivers either
[18:11] <Guest64261> connect irc.abjects.net
[18:11] <GatoLoko> Pici i think it's more ubuntu related than launchpad related, but ill try, thanks
[18:11] <nadim> n8wulf: what's the best way to debug this then - as noted I removed my router and am connected straight to the cable modem - ISP notes not blocking anything, what can I do next ?
[18:12] <sofiankrt> can anyone help me with my Natty installation, please? I can no longer use Unity
[18:12] <Magentium> sofiankrt, what is it saying?
[18:12] <TheeSaga> Sofiankrt: You'll need to be more specific
[18:12] <n8wulf> lemme just check your prev post, I'll see if I can suggest something in a mo
[18:13] <txx28> Sofian : try switching to metacity
[18:13] <sofiankrt> Magentium, TheeSaga: I installed Natty, and got ccsm. I enabled Desktop Cube, everything crashed, and now Compiz doesn't work and Unity doesn't work
[18:13] <sofiankrt> txx28: I think I'm using it right now, but I want to have desktop effects
[18:13] <n8wulf> nadim: sorry mate, just describe your issue again, can't find it now
[18:13] <gigasoft> i have problem running sound on kubuntu 64 bit not sound at allll  ...
[18:14] <beef-supreme> does anyone know a good text editor that i can personalize [tab] width and whether i want it to insert spaces or tabs when i press [tab]
[18:14] <Psydoll> can someone tell me what is a .ng file and how to install it?
[18:14] <nadim> n8wulf: been having a REALLY tough time with apache2 (on lucid) - I thought it was the router, so I removed it and am now connected straight into the cable modem, the ISP (cox) says they are not blocking ports but I can't seem to be able to access port 80 from the outside - localhost works just fine.  Ideas ?
[18:14] <Magentium> it sounds like something has gotten corrupted, correct me if i am wrong, but have you tried accessing the Shell using CTRL+SHIFT+F1, and then doing a Sudo Apt-get autoclean, and sudo apt-get install -f
[18:14] <Magentium> I believe those are the commands to check installs and such but not sure
[18:14] <sofiankrt> Magentium: was that for me?
[18:15] <Magentium> sofiantkrt, yes it was
[18:15] <Magentium> sofiantkrt, sorry for not being specific, lots of windows opening at once for me currently :p
[18:15] <n8wulf> nadim: maybe a quick workaround would be to install No-IP?
[18:16] <n8wulf> nadim: are you trying to a Local Hosted webpage from Public?
[18:16] <nadim> n8wulf: No-IP as in no-ip.org ?  Sorry not following...
[18:16] <sofiankrt> Magentium: it's okay :P I just ran both commands. I'm not sure what I should do next
[18:16] <n8wulf> nadim: no-ip.com
[18:16] <Magentium> sofiantkrt, unfortunatley i have not had much experience with natty, or else i would give you more advice, when there are problems like the one you have had i find that those two commands i should use first
[18:17] <sofiankrt> Magentium: okay, I'm going to reboot and see if I still have the problem
[18:17] <Magentium> sofiantkrt i will be online after :)
[18:17] <nadim> n8wulf: yeah, I installed apache2 and can see the "It works" from localhost (ie. <IP_ADDRESS>) but if I try to access my IP_address from the outside (ie. the internet) I don't get through - ssh works fine, vnc works fine, if I look at the apache logs so access entry, etc - its simply not coming through from the looks of it
[18:18] <nadim> s/so/no
[18:18] <Magentium> Looking for help with Ubuntu natty being slow on ATI Hardware
[18:19] <nadim> n8wulf: it very much looks like its being blocked but where - the ISP says "not me", I removed the router (so its just the ISP's cable modem) and the lucid box - so what can I do further to debug this ?
[18:20] <n8wulf> nadim: I'm thinking... but it feels like I'm Sinking
[18:20] <cordoval_> hi all of a sudden my wireless does not work and it says hardware switch disabled, see the light only orange now, what can I try?
[18:20] <cordoval_> CLI commands anyone?
[18:20] <nadim> n8wulf: hehe
[18:21] <Magentium> cordoval_ firstly, is there a hardware key on your laptop to turn it on ?
[18:21] <nadim> n8wulf: ok, tried something else and that worked
[18:21] <cordoval_> Magentium: yes and it is on position
[18:21] <cordoval_> still does not work, before this would work
[18:21] <n8wulf> nadim: what did you try?
[18:21] <cordoval_> I am on natty latest, this was working minutes ago
[18:21] <nadim> n8wulf: instead of 80 I modified apache2 to use 3389 (just for grins) and that works fine - I can see the "It works"
[18:21] <Magentium> cordoval_ can you please open a terminal and type lspci, and let me know if it recognises your card
[18:21] <nadim> n8wulf: so port 80 is definintly  being blocked but where and how
[18:22] <sofiankrt> Magentium: nope, it doesn't work
[18:22] <n8wulf> Magentium: did you do the Hardware drivers Update? which version?
[18:22] <sofiankrt> I can make changes to CCSM but nothing works, not even Unity
[18:22] <n8wulf> nadim: cool man!
[18:23] <Magentium> n8wulf i installed Natty Narwhal, updated all packages instantly, did an image of my system. without drivers it lagged, tried both opensource and proprietory and they both lagged
[18:23] <n8wulf> nadim: I'm not allowed to type my thoughts
[18:23] <cordoval_> hmm I see this 08:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation PRO/100 VE Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:23] <n8wulf> which model ATI?
[18:23] <Magentium> n8wulf and then i disabled SynctoVblack and Detect Refresh Rate and it was faster, but nothing amazing
[18:23] <Psydoll> does ubuntu provide a text based email service at the command line?
[18:23] <cordoval_> however that does not sound like the wireless
[18:23] <Magentium> ATI Radion 4250
[18:23] <sofiankrt> can anyone help? Unity and Compiz aren't working on my fresh Natty installation
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> sofiankrt: do ou have 3D accelleration?
[18:23] <nadim> n8wulf: is there ANYTHING within lucid that might be blocking port 80 ? I don't have a firewall installed/used
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> nadim: ou do have a firewall, its just configured to allow all
[18:24] <Magentium> okay cordoval, it seems that its finding your card, but not initiallizing it. I would go to google first and see if there are any known bugs with your adapter
[18:24] <sofiankrt> ActionParsnip: I'm not sure. If you're asking me about my hardware, I think it supports it. If you're asking me if the drivers are enabled, I think they are. Is there any way to check?
[18:24] <Magentium> sofiantkrt, correct me if i am wrong, but if port 80 was blocked, you wouldnt be able to get any incoming internet data ? or am i thinking of 8080
[18:25] <cordoval_> are you sure this is finding my card? because I think it has not
[18:25] <n8wulf> nadim: I should think not, no reason to be, lemme just remember quick, there is a site somewhere that allows u to test all open Ports on your IP
[18:25] <nadim> ActionParsnip: well yeah ipchains is there but there are no settings so effectively nothing there - any way to see what else might be blocking it ?
[18:25] <n8wulf> nadim: will get back to u just now
[18:25] <sofiankrt> Magentium: iirc, port 80 is for http, yes
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> nadim: netstat -a | less     see what's going on
[18:25] <cordoval_> let me do a pastie
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> sofiankrt: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[18:26] <nadim> n8wulf: tried canyouseeme.com and it said that 80 is no visiable from outside (what else is new :-) the question is how best to debug this
[18:26] <cordoval_> here it is http://www.pastie.org/2014649
[18:26] <n8wulf> nadim: http://canyouseeme.org/
[18:26] <cordoval_> do you see a wireless card? I don't
[18:26] <cordoval_> oh yes
[18:26] <KM0201> cordoval_: is it internal, or USB?
[18:26] <cordoval_> 05:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:26] <n8wulf> andim: as the site says
[18:26] <cordoval_> sorry internal
[18:26] <cordoval_> sounds like it is there
[18:26] <Magentium> sofiantkrt the last time i had an issue with port 80 there was a program that was locking to it....
[18:26] <n8wulf> your ISP is defs blocking it
[18:26] <KM0201> cordoval_: your wireless is int hat list..
[18:26] <cordoval_> but the hardware switch is off
[18:27] <nadim> ActionParsnip: let me revert back to 80 from 3389
[18:27] <cordoval_> I mean it is on physically but it looks like it is off now
[18:27] <cordoval_> at least that is how the machine is reading it
[18:27] <n8wulf> Magentium: sorry mate... Bump
[18:27] <cordoval_> how can a bug sudently appear like this?
[18:27] <KM0201> cordoval_: are you using 11.04?
[18:27] <piesenelagua> quit
[18:27] <cordoval_> yes natty
[18:27] <cordoval_> latests
[18:27] <Magentium> n8wulf that is okay, its a known bug in natty and its being worked on, but working with 10.10 and knowing that there is a new version is killing me :P
[18:28] <artzz> hi everyone.
[18:28] <artzz> I got my new computer today and it has 8gb of ram. I suppose I should install linux 64-bit, but I also read somewhere that linux 32-bit may be able to handle that amount of ram. is this true?
[18:28] <sofiankrt> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/617685/
[18:28] <n8wulf> Magentium: Kudos to you if you stick with all the Unity issues like me...
[18:28] <kleinerdrache> hi there
[18:28] <n8wulf> I'd like to see where Ubuntu is going with this
[18:28] <petrolman> Hi, is the zeitgeist-daemon an important process for Ubuntu? It always causes a zombie process. I tried to end the zombie with kill -CHLD pid, but no reaction. So I would like to end the father process
[18:28] <nadim> ActionParsnip: tcp 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN
[18:28] <Magentium> artzz from what i know you can make any 32bit OS READ the 8GB, but not use it
[18:28] <artzz> oh ok
[18:28] <rww> artzz: 32-bit Linux with PAE enabled can do 8GB of RAM, but can only do up to 4GB per application. If your CPU supports 64-bit, I'd recommend 64-bit.
[18:28] <artzz> I meant use them
[18:28] <rww> !pae
[18:29] <artzz> ok
[18:29] <vkamble1> @artzz - 32 bit cannot use 8 gig RAM
[18:29] <artzz> I see
[18:29] <n8wulf> k... I'm off to have a Brandy
[18:29] <rww> vkamble1: Yes, it can. See above.
[18:29] <Magentium> n8wulf, the idea of Unity is amazing, and it runs better then Windows or Mac substitutes, but of course its a new design and new shell, so i cannot expect it to be perfect. I will stick to it as much as possible
[18:29] <artzz> so I should install the 64-bit version then, I guess.
[18:29] <s3r3n1t7> artzz, see the !pae from ubottu
[18:29] <vkamble1> +1 with rww
[18:29] <kleinerdrache> is it possible somehow to use a set of packages from oneiric in natty? best would be to set up a ppa for that set, but how can i get the oneiric sources without installing oneiric here?
[18:29] <Magentium> n8wulf also, my laptop suffers from a bug where the battery monitor only shows "Estimating"
[18:29] <nadim> ActionParsnip: tcp 0 0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80 <IP_ADDRESS>:* LISTEN
[18:29] <artzz> !pae
[18:29] <maco> kleinerdrache: you can get the source packages from launchpad
[18:29] <cordoval> I found this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/155210 but it does not look like it
[18:30] <spvensko> sorry for the stupid question, but when printing in ubuntu, is there some options to make it so that you can fold the pages and form a book? i already have it printing two pages per side and two sided but i would like to basically change the ordering
[18:30] <cordoval> have you found anything?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> nadim: weird, usually gives the program etc
[18:30] <maco> kleinerdrache: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagename  click the oneiric version you want
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  ive seen tools that let you do that. but not used them in ages.
[18:30] <kleinerdrache> maco, thats a bit to much i think to many clicks, for that 20 packages
[18:30] <Magentium> ubottu thank you for that information, i dont believe windows can do that if i am correct, but i was unsure as to linux
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  xprint perhaps? it was an old tool i used years ago
[18:30] <nadim> ActionParsnip: I'm using netstat -tuln
[18:30] <sofiankrt> ActionParsnip: did you get the link?
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> !info xprint
[18:30] <spvensko> Dr_Willis, but this option is not in the default ubuntu printing options?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> vkamble1: 32bit pae can :) 12Gb Max with PAE
[18:30] <rcmaehl> how does my netbook boot faster than my desktop even though my desktop has MUCH better specs and less entries in the boot up list
[18:30] <cordoval> do you need this output? sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo iwlist scan | head -n 20
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  it would be a 'cups' feature actually. ubuntu uses cups. like most every disrto out there.
[18:31] <cordoval> hold on I will get the output
[18:31] <maco> kleinerdrache: could also add the deb-src line for oneiric to your sources.list and use  apt-get -t=oneiric source packagenames
[18:31] <rww> Magentium: Depends on your version of Windows. Microsoft limited that functionality depending on how much you pay them ;)
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> sofiankrt: got
[18:31] <solovoy> is any way to see a windows in the alt-tab even if this is minimized ?
[18:31] <rcmaehl> solovoy: yes
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  so some tools can alter the data befor it goes to cups.
[18:31] <Magentium> rww i hate paying for anything, only ever paid for windows once, then i moved to linux :P
[18:31] <rcmaehl> solovoy: although it breaks minimization
[18:31] <Magentium> Has anyone else had a problem with the battery monitor only showing "Battery Time Estimating"
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  i useed to do 2 pages per page all the time. Its possible the cups web interface may have addational options you could use.
[18:31] <rcmaehl> Magentium: yes
[18:31] <rcmaehl> Magentium: on 11.04?
[18:31] <solovoy> rcmaehl, how ?
[18:31] <sofiankrt> I wanna get Pidgin, Empathy is so annoying
[18:32] <rcmaehl> sofiankrt: sudo apt-get install pidgin
[18:32] <artzz> thanks a lot everyone
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> sofiankrt: did you install the proprietary driver
[18:32] <Magentium> rcmaehl on anything, 10.04, 10.10 and 11.04 all do the same thing, i found a link to how to fix it but i cannot find it anymore
[18:32] <anthony_dev> hi. i got problem. I dloaded ccsm just to see if I can off main menu ( starts if I press windows button on keyboard. or "super" button). and tryed to apply "blur windows" option (the icon is "drop"). so something gone wrong. and now when I restarted ubuntu I see only login form. then after succesful login I see background + terminal
[18:32] <rcmaehl> solovoy: sudo apt-get install ccsm and tell me when it's done
[18:32] <anthony_dev> how I can fix that thing to normal way?
[18:32] <cordoval> is it possible that the latest updates on natty had gotten rid of the wireless driver?
[18:32] <solovoy> rcmaehl, i'm in ccsm
[18:32] <livcd> HDD space needed for ubuntu ?
[18:32] <nadim> ActionParsnip: tcp 0 0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80 <IP_ADDRESS>:* LISTEN 4640/apache2
[18:32] <sofiankrt> rcmaehl: thanks, I was just expressing my frustration :P I wanna learn to get used to Empathy instead of going back to Pidgin
[18:32] <piksi> hi, i have 11.04 with one autologin user, and i'm unable to find how to change the de+wm to lxde or unity2d. do i need to disable autologin to be able to select another de?
[18:32] <sofiankrt> ActionParsnip: yup
[18:32] <rcmaehl> solovoy: give me a sec
[18:33] <rcmaehl> Magentium: do you have acpi installed?
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> piksi: log off, log into the DE etc of your choice, then log in. It will be used next time
[18:33] <spvensko> Dr_Willis, i can do two pages per side but i want it so that when i take the stack of papers and fold it into a V it forms a book
[18:33] <livcd> HDD space needed for Ubuntu ?
[18:33] <spvensko> ie you can flip the page and read it as though you were reading a book
[18:33] <kleinerdrache> maco would that affect any apt-get upgrade things? if no i would do that.
[18:33] <rcmaehl> livecd 4 GB
[18:34] <Magentium> rcmaehl i installed an acpi module before but im not sure, do you have any recommendations on installing it ?
[18:34] <Magentium> rcmaehl sleep and everything works, brightness does as well, its only the battery monitor. Widgets will show remaining time but i cannot set it up via the gnome one
[18:34] <Trfsrfr> How do I make it so I can access anything in my file system?
[18:35] <nadim> ActionParsnip: the only oddity that I can see (compared to another machine) is no mention of a tcp6 entry in netstat for apache2
[18:35] <sofiankrt> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[18:35] <rcmaehl> Magentium: run acpi -V in terminal and tell me what you get
[18:35] <cordoval> please here is the output of the very long chain of commands http://www.pastie.org/2014685
[18:35] <cordoval> I do appreciate it
[18:35] <bodiecon> just installed 11.04 and i'm having issues trying to install subsonic.  dpkg error.  searched a bunch of forums but only found one with exact issue and he just posted "got it".  anybody able to help?
[18:35] <Trfsrfr> I cannot access my root folder, even though I am an administrator.
[18:36] <solovoy> rcmaehl, is the option in workarounds ?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  ive done that.. like 20 yrs ago. :) heh
[18:36] <Magentium> says its not installed
[18:36] <cordoval> Magentium: are you talking to me?
[18:36] <spvensko> Dr_Willis, it appears that psbook will do what i want, ty for pointing me in the right direction :D
[18:36] <th0r> a question regarding aptoncd. Does the system keep all installed deb files in cache, or are some deleted to save space? In other words, if I keep just the last iso created by aptoncd, will I be able to reinstall everything i have from it?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  i cant even find teh tool i used befor.  search the pacakge manager for printing front ends perhaps?
[18:36] <rcmaehl> solovoy: >< forgot were it is looking for it now
[18:37] <Magentium> cordoval oh sorry, no i mean rcmaehl, acpi is not installed on this system.
[18:37] <cordoval> oh
[18:37] <ravkel> Any can help?
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> spvensko:  reminds me of the old  greeting-card programs that the big thing years ago
[18:37] <Trfsrfr> how do I become the 'owner' of my files?
[18:37] <cordoval> here is my output http://www.pastie.org/2014685
[18:37] <rcmaehl> Magentium: sudo apt-get install acpi acpid
[18:37] <cordoval> the hardware switch sounds like it is not obeying
[18:37] <th0r> Trfsrfr: use chown
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: look into chown
[18:37] <Magentium> rcmaehl i have just installed acpi, can i still installed acpid seperately or must they be installed together?
[18:38] <Trfsrfr> okay
[18:38] <solovoy> rcmaehl, there is an option in Workarounds, this say "Keep previews of minimized windows"
[18:38] <cordoval> anyone please help me my wireless network was just working and now it is not http://www.pastie.org/2014685
[18:38] <rcmaehl> solovoy: ag
[18:38] <solovoy> rcmaehl, i try that but don't work good
[18:38] <ravkel> I got ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 install in dual boot and installed Burg and wanna reinstall Windows 7 agin how to do that without breaking ubuntu?
[18:38] <rod95> need some help to set up a sound onboard ac'97 on 11.04 (no sound), anyone?
[18:38] <rcmaehl> solovoy: ah*
[18:38] <Magentium> rmaehl acpid is already at latest, should i try a restart now that acpi is installed?
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: can you expand on "root folder" as well, chowning the system will make it not work
[18:38] <rcmaehl> Magentium: yes
[18:38] <rcmaehl> Magentium: if it is recommended
[18:38] <rcmaehl> Magentium: if not just log out then log back in
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> rod95: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[18:39] <cordoval> cordoval@cordoval-HP-Pavilion-dv2000-RM421LA-ABM:~$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:39] <cordoval> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[18:39] <cordoval> what is rf-kill?
[18:39] <rcmaehl> cordoval: kills radio frequencies
[18:40] <cordoval> that is not good
[18:40] <Magentium> rcmaehl i will restart now and let you know what happens
[18:40] <Trfsrfr> ActionParsnip, In properties?
[18:40] <cordoval> > sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:40] <cordoval> will that be safe?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: what are you intending to chown
[18:40] <ravkel> ayone can help me?
[18:41] <irwinfv> cordoval, if you want to power on all your rf devices then yes.
[18:41] <rcmaehl> cordoval: what wifi card do you have
 :  Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=37e30a9e5202ebc6153181dfa31135632672d660
[18:41] <cordoval> intel look at the pastie
[18:41] <cordoval> above
[18:41] <cordoval> sounds like this will work > sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:41] <cordoval> yes I don't care about rf
[18:41] <cordoval> come what may
[18:41] <Trfsrfr> ActionParsnip, I recently removed windows and backed up my files, I just want to put some CAD files back into the folder so I can access them from that program (running under wine)
[18:41] <cordoval> yey!
[18:41] <cordoval> network is back
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: then put them in ~/.wine/drive_c
[18:42] <cordoval> ye yey hooo woot!
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: there is no root folder involved
[18:42] <Trfsrfr> ActionParsnip, im not able. theyre in the root folder and it is locked
[18:42] <irwinfv> cordoval, alternatively if you just wanted wifi you can always do rfkill unblock wifi
[18:42] <cordoval> this is a bug in ubuntu natty
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> rod95: is the system a branded pc or laptop at all?
[18:42] <ravkel> I got ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 install in dual boot and installed Burg and wanna reinstall Windows 7 agin how to do that without breaking ubuntu?
[18:42] <rod95> branded
[18:42] <Magentium> rchmael i restarted my laptop but still the same issue
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> Trfsrfr: then chown your home folder back to your user, thats all
[18:42] <rcmaehl> Magentium: hmmm
[18:42] <cordoval> for your reference ubuntu developers https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/155210
[18:42] <cordoval> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-nettool/+question/155210 solved my problems
[18:42] <cordoval> but it should be a patch soon
[18:42] <cordoval> bye
[18:42] <cordoval> thanks
[18:43] <FloodBot1> cordoval: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:43] <Trfsrfr> ActionParsnip, you make it sound so easy...
[18:43] <cordoval> shut up FloodBot1
[18:43] <cordoval> bye
[18:43] <Technicus> Hello . . . how can I make different login sessions?
[18:43] <Psydoll> Can someone tell me if ubuntu provides an email service to its users that is text based?
[18:43] <petrolman> How can I update zeitgeist to the newest version where the datahub bug is already fixed since 1 month?
[18:44] <Pici> Psydoll: what do you mean by 'email service'?
[18:44] <Magentium> technicus does it show LXDE or XFCE or KDE etc ?
[18:45] <Psydoll> Pici: I mean something like elm or pine
[18:45] <rww> !info alpine
[18:45] <Magentium> rcmaehl it is not a major problem as my Docky applet works fine, it is just annoying
[18:45] <rww> !info mutt
[18:45] <Pici> Psydoll: mutt is in the repositories.
[18:45] <rcmaehl> Magentium: I had that problem. I'm going through my system logs to see what I did to fix it
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> petrolman:  there may be some PPA's with newer versions
[18:46] <ravkel> anybody got anyidea on my problem?
[18:46] <ravkel> I got ubuntu 10.10 and windows 7 install in dual boot and installed Burg and wanna reinstall Windows 7 agin how to do that without breaking ubuntu?
[18:46] <Psydoll> Pici: Mutt is the ubuntu version of elm, or pine?
[18:46] <Pici> Psydoll: mutt is its own mail client.  alpine is an upgrade of alpine.
[18:46] <Pici> Psydoll: er, of pine.
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> ravkel:  you will most likely need to reinstall grub. if you had a spare flash drive you could install g4rub to it.. so you can boot from it - get back to ubuntu, and rerun 'update-grub'
[18:46] <Magentium> rcmaehl thank you, if you cannot then it is okay, i value your support already :)
[18:47] <Psydoll> Pici: is mutt texted based?
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> ravkel:  or else learn to reinstall grub some other way.
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | ravkel
[18:47] <jamfade> Does anyone know if vsftpd still requires db3?
[18:47] <Pici> Psydoll: mutt's package information says that its default keybndings are like elm's.  Yes, all of those are text based.
[18:47] <Trfsrfr> ActionParsnip, thanks! I think I figured it out.
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> Does the live cd have a 'reinstall grub' feature yet? I sware i saw that somewhere.. may have been some ubuntu variant.
[18:47] <Psydoll> Pici: does mutt make me setup a new email account or does it log into my existing email
[18:48] <alvinPH> hello buddies, can I install a third OS, win7, xubuntu, and another distro?
[18:48] <Faustus2> is there a way to turn off mouse-over popups in ubuntu/gnome? eg app-tabs, and almost everything else :S annoying!
[18:48] <Pici> Psydoll: I'm not sure how the default config is setup.  I have mine configured to login to my gmail account.
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  you can. but you might need to tweak grub to  boot it properly.
[18:48] <xskydevilx> How would I install LightDM on Natty?
[18:49] <petrolman> Dr_Willis, thanks, I ve found some infos at: https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/+archive/ppa
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> xskydevilx:  i would see if theres a PPA for it.
[18:49] <alvinPH> if I will install for example wattOS, will the brub be ruined?
[18:49] <alvinPH> grub*
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  you need to pick what OS handles teh biootloader..  unless you have more then one hd and keep each OS on its own hd.
[18:49] <Magentium> Looking for help with Renaming a HDD, Error states : Operation Not supported by backend
[18:50] <alvinPH> how can i do that?
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  rename a hd? clafify what you mean exactly.
[18:50] <alvinPH> please tell me how to install a third one
[18:50] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  learn to restore grub in ubuntu, it should be able to handle the other disrtos via grub2. you may need to configure grub2 by hand to load wattos. (never heard of that one)
[18:50] <iksik> hello
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  windows first, then the other,, then ubuntu.. is how i would do it. I dont se emuch point in having 2 differnt disrtos however..
[18:51] <alvinPH> just saw wattOS in linuxfreedon.
[18:51] <Magentium> Dr_Willis, in Nautilus, when i go to view a HDD it shows FileSystem as the label for my harddrive, is there any way to change that ?
[18:51] <Pici> xskydevilx: I see lightdm in the repositories.  You should just need to do: sudo apt-get install lightdm
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  what is the filesystem of the 'filesystem' in question?
[18:51] <xskydevilx> Pici: I'll try that. Thanks.
[18:51] <alvinPH> or how about moonOS?
[18:51] <blime> alvinPH: you might try using VirtualBox to test out new operating systems, if that's why you're looking to multi boot your system
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  gparted can change fs labels IF the proper support tools are installed for it.
[18:51] <iksik> i'm trying to setup 2 monitors on my nvidia with 2x X11, but there is some weird behaviour of my 2'nd monitor... the most important thing is.. that window decorations are totally missing there... any idea how to deal with it?
[18:51] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfsprogs
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  i just make bootable flash drives :) much easier.
[18:52] <Kurlon> Just upgraded to Natty, I don't have 3d support so I'm still using the classic gnome shell.  My window decorations match the selected theme, but anything else GTK driven (menu bar, status bar, terminal's colors, etc) have reverted to a gray/generic theme and don't respect changes from the appearance panel?
[18:52] <Magentium> Dr_Willis currently i believe it is an ext4 partition, i also have the same problem with ext3 and xfs file systems
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  for linux fs's you can use the 'tune2fs' command.
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  lavels may not actually 'change' untill you reboot (well the system may keep using the old label)
[18:53] <alvinPH> :D, it's easy but I want a persistent one, persistence in live usb sometimes fails
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  not if you do a 'full' normal install to flash drive..
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  i install to them same as i would a internal hd. :)
[18:54] <Magentium> Dr_Willis looking a the tune2fs command i cannot see how to change the label, do you by chance know how or know a link that can help me ?
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> but you do need bigger flash drives.. 4gb+ 8+ even better
[18:54] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  tune2fs --help     its -L or -l
[18:54] <alvinPH> I'm just using a usb creator for that way
[18:54] <Magentium> dr_Willis thank you i will check that now :)
[18:55] <alvinPH> i'm just using  a 2gb stick :(
[18:55] <rcmaehl> Magentium: is upower installed?
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  i do a normal install via the installer to my flash drives. some times I do need to use 2 flash drives.. one with a 'usb live' setup and  boot that to install to the 2nd flash drive.  or youi can use a cd -> flash drive.
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> 16gb flash are getting afforadable. :)
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Tristam: what was the magic bullet?
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> I grabbed an old laptop and made a little 60gb usb-hard drve for testing also.
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> Tristam: just nipped for a smoke
[18:56] <alvinPH> no nit here in Phils. :-)
[18:56] <Magentium> rcmaehl i believe it is, i wil check
[18:56] <Magentium> rcmaehl Upower is at the latest version
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  you can also set up grub2 to boot ISO files.
[18:56] <alvinPH> how is that?
[18:57] <Dr_Willis> plenty of guides on doing grub2->iso, i got some bookmarked at delicious.com/dr_willis
[18:58] <Magentium> i find that grub is a pain in the ass, have you looked a burg?
[18:58] <Magentium> i think that is what its called
[18:58] <alvinPH> I wish ubuntu could have enlightenment desktop :D
[18:59] <Magentium> enlightenment desktop?
[18:59] <Magentium> may i ask what that is ?
[18:59] <OlhaEuAi> OlhaEuAI só olhando _______m_^____^ m______
[18:59] <rcmaehl> Magentium: burg runs on top of grub
[18:59] <OlhaEuAi> amigos, alguém pode me dar uma ajuda?
[18:59] <Magentium> rcmaehl ahh i wasnt sure, never used it :p
[18:59] <Pici> !br | OlhaEuAi
[19:00] <alvinPH> it's not so widely used but it's quite pretty, there is a desktop gadget thing
[19:00] <omni_> I am trying to connect my Dell printer to Ubuntu over the network. I have found the computer, however i cannot find the correct Drivers. I have the CD, and found the Unix folder, i am lost where to go from here to install the drivers. Can anyone help?
[19:00] <kyo> Hi, I want two different programs running in two different wine's windows.
[19:00] <alvinPH> PCLinuxOS and moonOS got enlightenment desktop
[19:01] <koshie> Hi
[19:01] <Magentium> omni what kingd of printer?
[19:01] <nabi> hi
[19:02] <Magentium> omni_ what kind of printer are you connecting to ?
[19:02] <koshie> How I can measure in second the time between I type enter after the name of a software and the time where it's ready to work ?
[19:02] <nabi> how do i change ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY
[19:02] <nabi> ?
[19:02] <omni_> Magentium, Dell 1720
[19:02] <Magentium> koshie what exactly do you mean, you are testing how long it takes to process the command you typed?
[19:02] <MrKeuner> hello, I have a script that runs on each system boot. I have installed it using update-rc.d myscript defaults. How can I uninstall it?
[19:02] <koshie> Magentium, sorry for my english ^^
[19:03] <Magentium> omni_ I beleive that is your laptop model, what model Printer are you connecting to ?
[19:03] <koshie> Magentium, I'd like to measure time to launch a software
[19:04] <mod_cure> where is the apache config that contains all the modules that i can activate ?
[19:04] <Renski> just updated the nvidea drivers on my 11.04 box, and now when I restart my monitor reports the input is out of range
[19:04] <nmvictor> I have installed cairo dock version 2.3.02 from the cairo-dock-team PPA but I cant get more themes in the theme section even with my internet connection. The cairo dock I had in Maverick had themes from the internet loaded in the theme section, What do I do to get these themes back?
[19:04] <omni_> Magentium, That is the printer. It is a Dell Printer.
[19:05] <Magentium> koshie i dont think there is a way to do that unfortunately unless you extract a log and look at the time that is taken from one command to another, possibly make it do two commands and time between the end of the first and the start of the second
[19:05] <NCS_One> hi
[19:05] <Renski> I can get to a shell by presing alt,ctrl,F1, but how do I modify the refresh rate through the command line
[19:05] <Renski> seems to be ignoring the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:05] <koshie> Magentium, so you don't know a software to do that ? Hm
[19:05] <koshie> I will search again on Internet, but thanks.
[19:05] <phong_> can acronis true image backup linux?
[19:06] <Magentium> koshie unfortunately not, i know that with apt-get you can usually extract to a file, you may just have to google how to log the program that you are trying to use
[19:06] <koshie> Ok, thanks
[19:06] <koshie> Good afternoon everyone.
[19:06] <phong_> sup dude
[19:06] <_mike__> good afternoon lol
[19:06] <koshie> (I've say something funny ? :o)
[19:07] <nmvictor> I have installed cairo dock version 2.3.02 from the cairo-dock-team PPA but I cant get more themes in the theme section even with my internet connection. The cairo dock I had in Maverick had themes from the internet loaded in the theme section, What do I do to get these themes back?
[19:07] <phong_> _mike__, if it is excatly 12pm i call it: good noon ?
[19:07] <Magentium> omni_ oh i see, my appologise, google showed up a laptop >.< stupid google. Try googling for Linux Drivers, in my experience Dell doesnt support Linux too well
[19:07] <NCS_One> I have installed ttf-inconsolata but I don't know how to show it on xterm, now I have "XTerm*font: -jmk-neep alt-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1" on .Xresources but I can't find something similar on inconsolata. How can I do this?
[19:07] <_mike__> ha ha i guess
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> 19:00 here
[19:07] <_mike__> but by the time you type noon it will be one 12:00:05
[19:07] <omni_> Magentium, I have the drivers, they were on the CD. i'm new and do not know how to install them into Ubuntu
[19:08] <phong_> _mike__, haha
[19:08] <whiteybulger> where is 'connect to server' applet in Unity?  like gnome had ?
[19:08] <omni_> Magentium, i have 3 "Packages" a .plugin a .deb and .rpm
[19:08] <phong_> _mike__, do you think there is racist in USA even thought you just dont know it
[19:08] <NCS_One> omni_: the .deb
[19:08] <Magentium> omni_ if you are using ubuntu, please try the .deb file
[19:09] <Magentium> omni_ it should start up the application centre and install the package
[19:09] <FlintWestWood> hi there, i just installed 11.04 and firefox looks like the old firefox even though its firefox 4.0.1. the firefox i have installed on windows looks better
[19:09] <omni_> ..sigh, every time it opened i closed it because i did not want the software center to open..
[19:09] <FlintWestWood> is there a way to set firefox to the new interface
[19:09] <kbrosnan> FlintWestWood: there is no transparency or firefox button by default on linux
[19:09] <omni_> NCS_One, Magentium; thank you both for your help.
[19:10] <FlintWestWood> what does that mean?
[19:10] <Magentium> omni_ you are very welcome :)
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> FlintWestWood:  the 2 look differnt  i belive.
[19:10] <leao> Guys, the Eclipse IDE downloaded from Software center is different with latest Eclipse version (helios). Why is this ?
[19:10] <Magentium> I was talking to someone before who mentioned that i should try MINTMENU
[19:10] <kbrosnan> FlintWestWood: different operating systems have different styles
[19:10] <leao> hulp ?
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  its one of many alternative menu applets yes..
[19:10] <Kn|t3>     /connect -ssl_verify -ssl_capath /etc/ssl/certs chat.freenode.net 6697
[19:11] <FlintWestWood> oh. is there a way to make ubuntu firefox look like windows firefox
[19:11] <FlintWestWood> ?
[19:11] <Magentium> Dr_Willis, yes i remember you saying i should try it. its perfect for me needs, and i thank you very much for your help :)
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> FlintWestWood: apply the sme theme
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> *same
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  i cant stand mintmenu. :)
[19:11] <NCS_One> I have installed ttf-inconsolata but I don't know how to show it on xterm, now I have "XTerm*font: -jmk-neep alt-bold-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1" on .Xresources but I can't find something similar on inconsolata. How can I do this?
[19:11] <Magentium> Dr_Willis May i ask why ?
[19:11] <FlintWestWood> afik its the default one that comes with ff
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> FlintWestWood: do you mean with the big green back button?
[19:13] <FlintWestWood> yes
[19:13] <FlintWestWood> with the orange ff button in the corner
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> Magentium:  i mentioned how i use gnome-do or others.. i rarely need the menus any more
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> NCS_One:  an app used ages ago was 'xfontsel'  that would generate a proper font line you could use, via a gui.
[19:14] <oal> How can I search through a secondary hard drive for a file? locate only works on my main drive, it seems.
[19:14] <alvinPH> Dr_Willis: i read your bookmarked tutorial, it's about unetbootin, is it like the principle of wubi?
[19:14] <NCS_One> Dr_Willis: yes, but inconsolata doesn't show on xfontsel :(
[19:14] <Magentium> Dr_Willis I have Gnome-Do installed and use it as well, its an amazing program, I only had problems that since this is a Semi-Custom install which comes with a bunch of programs using a script installer, i am unsure of all the programs installed :P I really should clean up programs i never use
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> FlintWestWood: I dont use the browser, mine at work looks like this: http://blog.braintapper.com/assets/images/tinygrab/windows_firefox.png
[19:15] <_mike__> oal: did you mount the hard drive?
[19:15] <oCean> oal: if you only just have attached the 2nd hdd, your locatedb has not been updated yet. Try running "sudo updatedb"
[19:15] <Magentium> alvinPH wubi i believe is just a windows installer that will set it up inside a Folder and add the link to the Windows Boot Loader
[19:16] <rod95> ActionParsnip, not working either sound generic or auto :\
[19:16] <mod_cure> how can I load the mod_proxy module ?
[19:16] <oal> _mike__ and oCean I can browse it and it shows up under "Places" as 976 GB file system. sudo updatedb doesn't appear to do anything?
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> rod95: ok try with no options, but then run:  alsamixer    ensure all levels are cranked and unmuted
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> NCS_One:  hmm. been ages since i messed with fonts.  used to be a fontcach you would need to rebuild..
[19:16] <FlintWestWood> i want mine to look like this http://newtech.aurum3.com/images/firefox_4_preview.png
[19:16] <alvinPH> Magentium: no, what i mean is that booting an iso via grub2 is like the principle of wubi.
[19:17] <trism> NCS_One: xterm -fa inconsolata-11; seems to work here, don't know if you can use a similar line in .Xresources
[19:17] <Magentium>  alvinPH oh, my mistake :) I only read that line :P
[19:17] <butch1282> I need to get a laptop that can run ubuntu properly in the next hour - is the live-cd a good indicator for comatability?  i have 11.04
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  not really.. wubi has the linux filesystem in a file..   but i hate wubi anyway. :)
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> butch1282: sure
[19:17] <Jordan_U> butch1282: Yes.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> butch1282: you can do anything in the live OS except reboot
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  grub is just sort of faking a cdrom and passing the right options to the kernel.
[19:18] <rod95> Actionn, alsamixer closes everytime I click in sound proprieties
[19:18] <Magentium> butch1282 i find that if it is a fairly common laptop (Dell, HP, Lenovo) it will run fine regardless, I do not take Live Disks seriously as when i boot a live disk on my Laptop sound and Touchpad works, but when i install it does not
[19:18] <butch1282> thanks, second question - do you see any comatability issues with this laptop? its the cheapest i can find. http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=357138&CatId=4938
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> butch1282:  allow time for the first set of updates,   and so on. :) normally takes less then an hr here.
[19:18] <oCean> oal: I guess that means that is not currently mounted, but when you go through Places to that filesystem, it gets mounted under /media. The fact that updatedb does not do 'anything' means that is has nothing to update. As soon as you have mounted the 2nd filesystem, you should run the updatedb command
[19:18] <alvinPH> Dr_Willis: ah, therefore if I do the boot iso via grub is like a booting via live cd/usb?
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> butch1282:  with laptops often the 'cheapest' is not that much of a value. if you can get 2x the machine for $30 more..
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  it can be identical to booting from a cd.
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  i think you can somehow set up a persistant save on the hd also. but ive never bothered
[19:20] <butch1282> ok - do you see any issues with the AMD E-Series Processor/Chipsets?
[19:20] <computerx> G'day, I have a dual screen setup with 1 workspace. The secondary monitor is smaller and to the left of the main monitor (with the gnome toolbars). When I fullscreen OpenGL or Flash apps, they spread across both monitors. How can I make them only fullscreen on the main monitor?
[19:20] <alvinPH> Dr_Willis: I'm looking for an alternative distro that's far different from the looks of ubuntu but still based from it.
[19:21] <Magentium> butch1282 if it is anything like the AMD Series then no, i run a 2.2Ghz Single Core V120, and its blazing fast and stable
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  theres dozens of them.. it all depends on your needs.
[19:21] <butch1282> k, thanks
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  been trying Bodhi on this box :) but dont expect support in this channel for the variants.
[19:21] <Magentium> computerx if you have Compiz Installed, inside the CSMM i believe there is a plugin to stop windows opening off screen, it should keep them on one screen, but no promises
[19:22] <nabi> how do i change ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY ?
[19:22] <computerx> Magnetium: I have the compiz manager installed, any idea which plugin?
[19:22] <Magentium> computerx give me 1 minute I will have a look
[19:22] <computerx> Thank you
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  what chipset are you using?
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> ati/intel/nvidia?
[19:23] <alvinPH> Dr_Willis: I want a simple and lightweight interface, basically for web browsing, multimedia and office suite. what distro could you suggest?
[19:23] <computerx> Nvidia
[19:23] <computerx> Proprietry driver
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  go to disrtowatch web site and see.. any of them can do it.. You may as well try Lubuntu first.. since it  is almost an official ubuntu variant. :)  or will be official soon
[19:23] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  if you enable twinview. (and restart the x server) when you fullscreen an app it will maxamize to the display its on.
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  unless its a very badly written app. :)
[19:24] <alvinPH> what is its desktop anyway?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> !lxde
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> lubuntu = lxde
[19:24] <Magentium> computerx unforunately i cannot find the plugin i had, but the method that Dr_Willis explained also works well
[19:24] <Jordan_U> !best | alvinPH
[19:24] <computerx> Twinview is with 2 workspaces, toolbars on each?
[19:24] <Magentium> LUBUNTU Is AWESOME!! =D I love it
[19:24] <nabi> how do i set ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" ?
[19:24] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  run nvidia-settings tool. enable twinview.. restart X server (or reboot)
[19:25] <george_> Hello. Do you use mplayer? I'm using the last version on kubuntu 11.04 repositories and can't play mms stream. Any ideas? I have gstream good, bad, ugly installed...
[19:25] <irwinfv> alvinPH, xfce (xubuntu) runs pretty lightweight too...Though a little larger the lxde
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  just hitting apply will not work properly in some cases.  untill you reset the X server. some apps can get confused.
[19:25] <computerx> It's on twinview already. Neverball, Neverputt and Flash in Chrome don't behave.
[19:25] <alvinPH> no, you get me wrong, i'm not polling see i'm asking only one person?
[19:25] <computerx> More don't behave, they're just three examples off the top of my head
[19:25] <Magentium> alvinPH if you are looking for a basic Desktop envionment that focuses on minimal resources, i personally recommend Lxde
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  you did restat the X server?
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> restart. :)
[19:26] <computerx> It's been setup like this for months
[19:26] <computerx> As Twinview
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  so Some apps do work properly.. and some dont?
[19:26] <alvinPH> magentium: ok i'll try what you suggest, thanks to all of you
[19:26] <Dr_Willis> I dont have a 2 monitor sysstem handy to double checn those apps. I cant even recall the last app i saw that worked wrongly.. other then some java apps.
[19:26] <computerx> Only "normal" apps seem to work properly. Maximize etc. Anything with a fullscreen option goes crazy.
[19:27] <leao> Guys I'm using Xchat-Gnome for my ubuntu, do you have any other suggestions because it SUCKS !
[19:27] <Magentium> alvinPH you are welcome, Even though it is not offically supported, if you wish to use a distribution that has multiple environments installed, then you could try Ubuntu Ultimate
[19:27] <leao> it doesnt even show the user names as default
[19:27] <Magentium> I have KDE, XFCE, LXDE, GNOME, Openbox and Fluxbox installed by default
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  well.. i definatly CAN (could) use the max/full screen feature in vlc/xbmc/games and if the game window was on the 2nd monitor - it would fullscreen to that monitor only. Double check teh nvidia-settings and be sure twinview is on. and I think xinerama is off..
[19:27] <alvinPH> Magentium: where could i get that?
[19:28] <nabi> how do i set ufw DEFAULT_FORWARD_POLICY="ACCEPT" ?
[19:28] <Magentium> leao have you tried just normal Xchat? I am using it currently and its create
[19:28] <Magentium> Great
[19:28] <Magentium> alvinPH i shall get you a link
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu Ultimate - is definatly not lightweight. :)
[19:28] <alvinPH> ok thakns
[19:28] <Magentium> alvin, you are competent with Torrents?
[19:28] <alvinPH> yes
[19:28] <Putr> hey guys. I'm at an event and my friends computer isnt connecting well to the wireless (signal is intermidiate). Is there a way he could connect to me with cable and my computer would work as a network switch?
[19:28] <computerx> I did double-check Twinview as you said it. VLC and Totem do work correctly, as it happens. This is becoming relevant as I'm installing Doom3 linux client right now, and this will drive me nuts. I'll check xinerama...
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  xinerama is like the 'old' way of handling it. nvidias enhanced way is 'twinview' I Have heard of some issues in 11.04 with multi monitor support. It could be theres some iother  issues causing the problem.
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  i would be curious if it worked properly with other window managers like icewm.
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  if running in a window, the CCSM plugin 'window rules' (i think) has ways to set windows to be spefific sizes/locations
[19:30] <Dr_Willis> and even hide decorations i think.
[19:30] <yoR> I've just tried installing Ubuntu (from USB drive), loading it from USB worked great, was able to do almost anything, but after installing I just get purple flicker... any ideas? (and is this the correct channel to ask?)
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> yoR:  whats your video chipset.
[19:31] <Magentium> alvin i shall get you a link to the torrent file, it is much faster download, the file size is 2.6GB i believe, and comes with A LOT of programs, Themes, etc. Once you tweak it to your needs, it works justn like any other Distro
[19:31] <computerx> I'll check window rules. I'm hesistant to make significant changes because this is primarily my work computer, I spend 90% of my time programming on it, and really don't want to mess it up ;)
[19:31] <yoR> I've got an Asrock Extreme 4 motherboard and a ATI 6870
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  You could always test with a differnt user.
[19:31] <yoR> It boots with PCIe as default
[19:31] <computerx> Oooh, clever
[19:31] <omni__> hmm
[19:32] <Duesentrieb_> hi all! i'm using natty netbook edition, and it randomly crashes. screen is black, can#t change to vt, no ping, no ssh. there's nothing obvious in the syslog. i wonder how to debug this...
[19:32] <Duesentrieb_> any ideas?
[19:32] <Duesentrieb_> anything i could turn on to find out what's happening?
[19:32] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  i would be curious if the apps did fullscreen properly in icewm, or openbox.
[19:32] <Magentium> alvinPH http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition/ultimate-edition-2-9/ if you go to that link, there is 32Bit and 64 bit, i am sure you can get the downloads from there. Perhaps read up about the install and programs, watch some videos and screenshots etc before you make your choice
[19:33] <alvinPH> :D thank you buddy.
[19:33] <Pici> alvinPH, Magentium: Please keep in mind that we do not support Ubuntu Ultimate in this channel.
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> Duesentrieb_:  while its running  ssh in, and have the log files being printed in real time.. untill it crashes. (use tail -f /var/log/SOMTHING)    and see what the logs say.
[19:33] <computerx> I'll try the "not installing stuff" route first ;)
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  i always keep icewm installed for a 'backup/rescue' window manager.
[19:33] <computerx> If this PC goes tits up, I lose a lot of time, and then money
[19:33] <alvinPH> that's ok,
[19:33] <Duesentrieb_> Dr_Willis: well... which log?...
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  not like icewm is going to blow up your system..
[19:34] <Duesentrieb_> Dr_Willis: as i said, the syslog doesn't have anything interesting...
[19:34] <oCean> !afk > Jon|AFK
[19:34] <Broc93> hello everybody
[19:34] <Magentium> Pici yes and i respect that :) was just giving him an option for if he decided to try out something that has it built in :)
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> theres kernel log and others..  you may want to monitor several of them
[19:34] <computerx> I assume I can apt-get it?
[19:34] <Broc93> how do I delete a file using the console?
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  of course...
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> Broc93:  rm file
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> !cli | Broc93
[19:34] <computerx> And switching to it? Is icewm the equivalent to metacity/compiz?
[19:35] <IdleOne> Magentium: and when he has problems with it he can go to the irc channel and be told to come here where we don't support it.
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  icewm is a widnow manager like metacity.. will add a gdm menu item.
[19:35] <computerx> This is part of the X "relationships" I don't "get"
[19:35] <alvinPH> Magentium: there's no LXDE for 32bit
[19:35] <anthony_dev> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/155568
[19:35] <nemo> Duesentrieb_: any issues w/ CPU temperature? also, run memtest already? (maybe you are at something pretty fundamental)
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  its all about layers... X --> Window manager --> File manager and other apps
[19:35] <Magentium> IdleOne of course i know that, my appologise for mentioning it
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  icewm is a window manager.. Gnome is a 'desktop' :) which is a WM + other apps..
[19:35] <Magentium> alvinPH you may wish to just install the environment onto your current install
[19:36] <anthony_dev> I got same problem, plz help. I cant see menu button at top and even this taskbar or something like that. and I cant see side panel.
[19:36] <Duesentrieb_> nemo: not a temperature issue, no. memory would be possible i guess. though it didn't happen with 10.10... but i probably should run memtest
[19:36] <dsockwell> my Ubuntu server doesn't give any output on boot.  I'm used to seeing output from the kernel, how can I read that?
[19:36] <Duesentrieb_> nemo: will do next time it crashes
[19:36] <Duesentrieb_> hm...
[19:36] <dsockwell> difficulty:  the machine won't finish booting.
[19:36] <computerx> lol, doom3 went to the bottom-left of the left monitor, at 800x600 "fullscreen".
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> dsockwell:  you could see if the /etc/default/grub file is hiding the output. replace the 'quiet splash' with '' or 'text' perhaps/
[19:37] <Duesentrieb_> is there a way to get continuous output from dmesg?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  given how old doom3 is.. Im not suprised. :)
[19:37] <Magentium> dsockwell we had the same issue, try using the -v option when running the kernel
[19:37] <nemo> Duesentrieb_: any suspiciousness in dmesg?
[19:37] <dsockwell> Magentium: -v? ok
[19:37] <nemo> like, that might be warning signs?
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  you can set up scripts to run xrandr and turn off one monitor, run the game, then reactivate the monitors after the game exists..
[19:37] <Duesentrieb_> nemo: none that i can tell, no
[19:37] <Magentium> dsockwell yes i believe that -v is for verbose unless i am confused with Mac OSX
[19:37] <computerx> I don't play... well, games hardly at all. Doom, a little WoW...
[19:38] <nemo> Duesentrieb_: /var/log/dmesg?
[19:38] <dsockwell> the linux kernel doesn't usually take its arguments with a -
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  i saw they got doom ported/runniong in a web browser now. :)
[19:38] <computerx> WebGL is a marvel...
[19:38] <dsockwell> trying now
[19:38] <Duesentrieb_> nemo: ah, wait - non in syslog. i don't know about dmesg. because i never get to see it. dmesg is reset on boot, no?
[19:38] <dsockwell> negative
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> There maybe redone open sourced rewrites of doom3
[19:38] <usman> hi, i am trying to configure dns server from the following forum post, i did exactly as they says but when i try to nslookup or do dig , it dont get it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236093
[19:39] <yoR> Dr_Willis: I'll try running it from the onboard videocard
[19:39] <computerx> So I see xrandr should let me be quite specific. I like this. I'll probably go the script route. I'm handy with bash.
[19:39] <omni__> I'm still having a problem with Del Print drivers. the .deb installed it, however i get a kickback error during installation. It is telling me not to be in root, however i'm not. (Here is the Error in Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/uhyPS22D )
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  im not sure how well xrandr works with the nvidia twinview.
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> computerx:  but it shouldent break antying a log out/back in cant fix :)
[19:40] <computerx> Oh, I'm sure something "interesting" will happen. It usually does.
[19:40] <dsockwell> Magentium: -v did it, thank you
[19:40] <Magentium> dsockwell you are welcome, we run 2 LInux servers here and -v is on for both simply because of that issue :)
[19:41] <dsockwell> that's going in /etc/default/grub
[19:41] <computerx> Well, thank you Magnetium and Dr_Willis, I'll plod on with the help you've given me, and relax for once...
[19:41] <Magentium> computerx if this was facebook i would "like" your status, something interesting ALWAYS happens with me on linux :P
[19:41] <dsockwell> i love how ubuntu goes to such great lengths to avoid confusing new users that it gives experienced users heartburn
[19:41] <Magentium> computerx you are welcome, i will try and stay online for as long as i can tonight if you need any more help, feel free to email me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if you need any other assistance
[19:41] <computerx> lol Magnetium. Everything since installing an Nvidia card has paled in comparison to the "joys" of trying to work with an old ATI card.
[19:42] <computerx> I've sworn at (a lot) and off ATI since moving to Linux permanently.
[19:42] <Magentium> dsockwell LIKEEE, I have to agree. i Installed it for my GF and she loved it cos it was so simple, but for me its the biggest challenge since waking up in the morning :p
[19:42] <alvinPH> Magentium: i found what I need, it's BOdhi :D
[19:42] <Duesentrieb_> nemo, Dr_Willis: ok, tail -f running for dmesg and syslog from a different box now. and will run a memtest when it crashes again. hopefully, then i'll know more
[19:42] <Magentium> alvinPH Briliant :) i am glad you found what you needed :)
[19:43] <alvinPH> it's light and the desktop is enlightenment :D
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  i mentioned im using that right now. :)
[19:43] <alvinPH> aw. sorry i didn't noticed XD
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  its ok. but enlightment is really.. not that impressive to me .. ive used E on and off for years.
[19:44] <Polah> alvinPH: Isn't Enlightenment just a window manager, not a desktop enviroment?
[19:44] <alvinPH> can i install bodhi on a 2gb stick?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> Enlightment is almost a desktop. :)
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  a full install here was a little over 3gb i think
[19:45] <user1> can someone tell me about DNS services in ubuntu
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> alvinPH:  and when you start using it for real work.. your tmp and caches will start taking up space also.
[19:45] <usman> also is necessary to define reverse lookup enteries for a domain then bind will work ??
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> night all..
[19:45] <Polah> Dr_Willis: How can it be almost a desktop? It's either an environment and provides as such, or it's a window manager that sits on top of an environment like GNOME. If it managed windows and did some environment stuff it could conflict.
[19:45] <francesco_> ciao a tutti...italian irc ubuntu?were is?
[19:45] <alvinPH> i just want office , browser and multimedia, is it enough?
[19:45] <Pici> !it | francesco_
[19:46] <francesco_> ok ty
[19:46] <pejote> ciao a tutti
[19:46] <user1> can someone tell me about DNS services in ubuntu
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> alvinPH: could start from minimal and build up
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> User1: dnsmasq can provide a dns service
[19:47] <alvinPH> that's my point, I want the minimal but complete for my needs
[19:48] <computerx> Next! The audio is crunching and clicking. It won't use OSS (/dev/dsp not found), and is using Alsa. I use Pulseaudio and EsounD (in Wine because it's more stable than Alsa under load, I've found). Any ideas?
[19:48] <user1> ActionParsnip : if i have vps.abc.com and an ip <IP_ADDRESS> how do i bind them so that i can ping vps.abc.com
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> alvinPH: the default ubuntu comes with a tonne of fluff. Using minimal then only adding what you need keeps it small
[19:49] <computerx> user1: sudo nano /etc/hosts - put in <IP_ADDRESS> vps.abc.com
[19:49] <yoR> Dr_Willis: Cool, the default onboard graphic card is working, thanks. Now I can update the drivers etc
[19:49] <user1> computerx: that's done already
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> User1: add it in /etc/hosts
[19:49] <computerx> Then the ping vps.abc.com should be pinging that IP
[19:49] <computerx> Does the ping show that IP?
[19:50] <omni__> I'm still having a problem with Dell Print drivers, the .deb installed it, however i get an error during installation. It is telling me not to be in root, however i'm not. (Here is the Error in Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/uhyPS22D )
[19:50] <user1> computerx: no
[19:50] <unknown> hello
[19:50] <user1> computerx: it doesnt resolve
[19:50] <Magentium> ActionParsnip, my minimal do you mean the Alternate Installer?
[19:50] <computerx> Then you've either put the line in wrong, or have some caching nameserver installed
[19:51] <operatorplik> hy
[19:51] <Scunizi> user1: you have to restart the networking services.. and perhaps samba.. sudo service networking restart
[19:51] <computerx> Nameservers aren't my forte (I pay cPanel to care about that), so I'd check the hosts file at least
[19:51] <alvinPH> ActionParsnip: how can i remove those bloaty package?
[19:51] <Scunizi> y
[19:52] <Magentium> hello unknown, welcome to the ubuntu IRC :)
[19:52] <computerx> Magnetium, do you have any suggestions regarding my clicky alsa audio?
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Magentium: no, minimal. It installs using the web. Just install a base OS then hook up to the web and install apps (wired link makes this easier)
[19:53] <computerx> Would it be affected by me running one of my two cores at 100% constantly? Do I need to give alsa some cpu headroom?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> alvinPH: use software centre
[19:53] <Magentium> computerx i have had very bad times with Alsa, new kernel and then alsa is gone, i find that when its clicky i check the PCM Volume and update to the latest version and it works
[19:53] <Magentium> ActionParsnip, where could i find this install? is it the minimal iso that can be downloaded from FTP sites?
[19:54] <computerx> "pcm volume"?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> !minimal
[19:54] <oCean> HammerTiem: please stop the public nick changes
[19:54] <Magentium> computerx if you go to a terminal and type alsamixer, it SHOULD come up with PCM Volume i believe it is called, i find that if it is too high, even the Alert Sounds are crackly and horrible
[19:56] <Magentium> ActionParsnip, i had no idea that this even existed! This would have solved my problems YEARS ago, thank you!!!
[19:57] <NiMH> Hello
[19:57] <bigbang> when i start my google video chat in chrome i get error "A problem occurred while attempting to access your graphics hardware."
[19:57] <computerx> alsamixer didn't fix it directly, but it looks like Doom3 was pushing the audio in a little too high. Now I've turned that down, it's fine. Thanks for the guidance
[19:58] <Magentium> bigbang what graphics card do you have ?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Magentium: np man. I use it then install lxde. Very fast and punchy OS plus fewer updates after install as you install from the server
[19:58] <Magentium> computerx you are welcome
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Doom3 rocks!!
[19:58] <Magentium> ActionParsnip, the main problem i have with ubuntu is when it installes stuff idont need, and then takes HOURS to remove it all safely without bricking the OS. Minimal install sounds like an amazing thing, i shall try i!
[19:59] <computerx> It does, especially as ID software released a Linux client
[19:59] <bigbang> magentium, how to check it in ubuntu
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Magentium: even if you install the metapackage, its still a handy way to install. Also look into apt-fast for quicker i
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Installs
[20:01] <bigbang> Magentium, how do i check for my graphics card
[20:01] <Magentium> bingbang go to the terminal and enter lspci, it should tell you it somewhere in there
[20:02] <joshuau> Hi there
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Bigbang: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:02] <ilias> i installed kubuntu 10.04 lts in my desktop and i had some graphic's driver's problems (icons pixelized). i will proceed with ubuntu 10.04 i will be faced with he same problems?
[20:03] <joshuau> I saw recently that ubuntu was developed in the isle of man.... is that correct
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Ilias: what video chip do you use?
[20:03] <petrolman> Hi, I cant find Java in the "system control" of Ubuntu 11.04., but OpenJDK-6-JRE is installed! I would like to configure the Java console.
[20:04] <joshuau> I saw recently that ubuntu was developed in the isle of man.... is that correct
[20:04] <ilias> gforce/nvidia
[20:04] <joshuau> I saw recently that ubuntu was developed in the isle of man.... is that correct??
[20:04] <Magentium> joshuau not sure, i heard a rumour like that too
[20:04] <bigbang> Magentium, it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/617756/
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Ilias: the drivers are identical. Only the UI is different
[20:05] <joshuau> well i'm on vtc linux and it has a screen shot from a webpage of distro watch in 2006 and it says so.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Ilias: install the nvidia driver, should make things better. Which nvidia?
[20:05] <oCean> joshuau: keep this channel for technical support please, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <joshuau> ok
[20:05] <usman> is here is anyone who can help me out with bind dns server
[20:06] <rww> joshuau: No. The company that sponsors Ubuntu is incorporated in the Isle of Man. Ubuntu is developed by a worldwide group of people, and Canonical (the aforementioned company) is based in London and has people worldwide.
[20:06] <_cb> there is an non-open source product based on Linux Terminal Server Project. Can't remember the name. Anyone know what I am talking about?
[20:06] <usman> yes i do
[20:06] <rww> _cb: Userful Desktop?
[20:07] <usman> Thin Client
[20:07] <usman> its a thin client
[20:07] <usman> as we have in suse
[20:07] <iceroot> _cb: nx?
[20:07] <ilias> i know that, so it's true that is very possible to have the same problems. i am not now on this machine so i cannot tell u. i only can tell u that exact the same problems i faced with suse 11.3. 11,2 was ok, 11,4 ok too. but kubutnu 10,04 and opensuse 11,3 have issues with my card. strange?
[20:07] <_cb> iceroot nx, that's it. Thanks !!!!
[20:07] <iceroot> _cb: freenx is the gnu-version
[20:08] <ghabit> hello. just installed. how to swith off unity? want classic gnome
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> Ilias: different xorg versions
[20:08] <bigbang> Magentium, it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/617756/
[20:08] <alvinPH> what will happen if i run sudo apt-get autoremove?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> ghabit: choose it at logon
[20:09] <Pici> !classic | ghabit
[20:09] <_cb> iceroot, nomachine is the company. Thanks !!
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> alvinPH: it removes unneeded packages
[20:09] <BluesKaj> !u | ilias
[20:09] <Kutemclose> anyone here usse Devede?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> !anyone
[20:10] <alvinPH> is that sure and has no conflict with other currently installed packages?
[20:10] <ilias> so. do u think is better to run 11.04 althought it is new?
[20:10] <ilias> nobody can change irc alphabet!
[20:10] <BluesKaj> !u > ilias
[20:11] <ilias> so is 11.04 stable enough?
[20:12] <rww> yes
[20:12] <Kutemclose> I'm experiencing the error "conversion failed, make sure you have enough space" when trying to convert an avi to iso using Devede. anyone getting the same issues or have the fix for it?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> ilias: works well here :-)
[20:13] <OerHeks> Kutemclose, the error says 'you don't have enough space ( on your hdd)'
[20:13] <BluesKaj> you don't convert avi files to iso with devede , use an iso maker app, Kutemclose
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> Kutemclose: check free space dude
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: devede makes a dvd iso from video files
[20:14] <ilias> do you have any idea if 11.04 will detecte and install the appropriate driver for my prolink usb tv analogue device with np-1004+ chip on it?
[20:15] <Kutemclose> BluesKaj, you most certainly do use it for that. I've been using the program for years to do just that. Problem is just recently it started not working
[20:15] <bigbang> when i start my google video chat in chrome i get error "A problem occurred while attempting to access your graphics hardware." I have this graphics card http://paste.ubuntu.com/617756/
[20:15] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, yeah but it takes dvd authoring etc , one can't just convert an avi file with devede
[20:16] <jfbouchard> Hello, is GCC 4.1 avail in 11.04 64 bits ? I dont see it in the repo ???
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: it combines the avis and make an iso you can burn.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, Kutemclose , devede claims it can , but I found it so frustrating to use I switched tot tovid
[20:18] <omni_> Can anyone help me find where printer drivers were installed to? I installed the drivers but it still does not show up when i try to setup the printer.
[20:18] <Magentium> Cya people! Thanks for all your help!
[20:18] <alvinPH> bye guys i'll try wattOS :D then bodhi..
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> jfbouchard: check for ppa if the version you desire is not default
[20:19] <YankDownUnder> Kutemclose, Do you have enough space on the drive - just asking?
[20:19] <PRC> hi
[20:19] <jfbouchard> ActionParsnip: Hello, I just want to get confirmation that its not in the repo of 11.04
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[20:19] <bigbang>  when i start my google video chat in chrome i get error "A problem occurred while attempting to access your graphics hardware." I have this graphics card http://paste.ubuntu.com/617756/
[20:20] <PRC> hi
[20:20] <jfbouchard> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know its not default but normally there is more than one version avail in the repo.
[20:20] <PRC> hi
[20:21] <Kutemclose> YankDownUnder, more than enough space on the drive
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> jfbouchard: not sure of that dude, sorry
[20:21] <Kutemclose> YankDownUnder, i'm told its a problem with mencoder
[20:21] <PRC> whats up
[20:21] <Guest34527> hello gentleman
[20:21] <PRC> hello Guest34527
[20:21] <PRC> what are you doing?
[20:22] <Guest34527> hows everyones day going?
[20:22] <YankDownUnder> Kutemclose, The reason I as is because sometimes folks have strange partition layouts - like putting their /tmp and /var/ on different drives, etc etc etc...and just for a giggle and a grin, have you cleaned the crap outta yer /tmp and /var/tmp directories lately?
[20:22] <Pici> PRC: This is a support channel. If you're looking to chat, check out #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[20:22] <PRC> thanks Pici
[20:23] <Guest34527> hows your day fella's?
[20:23] <YankDownUnder> Kutemclose, mencoder - hmm...well, you can then always download and compile a newer version (not really recommended or supported in this channel)
[20:23] <Palzieri> Hello
[20:23] <TTSDA> Hello there
[20:23] <Guest34527> hey
[20:23] <TTSDA> How can I allow the user www-data to access /home/ttsda/test1 ?
[20:23] <Guest34527> so how is everyobody doing?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Ttsda: look into chmod and chown
[20:24] <TTSDA> Fine
[20:24] <Pici> TTSDA: Easiest way would be to allow others read access there. chmod o+r /home/ttsda/test1
[20:24] <TTSDA> I did chmod 77
[20:24] <TTSDA> *777
[20:24] <TTSDA> and chown
[20:24] <Palzieri> I've just tried and upgrade my Jauntie 9.04 without any success
[20:24] <TTSDA> And I still cant access
[20:24] <pcpower> don't do that
[20:24] <FloodBot1> TTSDA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <TTSDA> Sorry :<
[20:24] <Guest34527> gentlemen, we all just need to slow down
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> Ttsda: 777 isn't too wise
[20:24] <TTSDA> I know
[20:25] <TTSDA> It was just for testing
[20:25] <pcpower> also if /home/ttsda doesn't have execute permissions for said user, they won't be able to access /test1 either
[20:25] <Pici> pcpower: Ah, good  point. I forgot that.
[20:25] <Guest34527> guys now you just need to stop
[20:25] <TTSDA> Oh ?
[20:25] <TTSDA> How do I add execute permissions ?
[20:25] <Guest34527> yea
[20:25] <pcpower> chmod o+x /home/ttsda
[20:26] <Pici> Guest34527: Thats not needed.  Please try to stay ontopic here, as this is a support channel.   I have a lighttpd server set up, its folder is /var/www. I want to access the file /home/ttsda/q/file.php from the web server, So I set up a symlink in /var/www to /home/ttsda/q/file.php. And I get 403'd. How do I fix it ?
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> TTSDA: i believe there is a setting regarding symlinks for apache
[20:30] <sharma> hi
[20:30] <TTSDA> It is lighttpd :/
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> TTSDA: probably a similar deal
[20:32] <computerx> Me again! Err, I can't figure out how to set my desktop to x +1360, y +0, w 1920, h 1080 using xrandr
[20:33] <NCS_One> hi
[20:33] <computerx> Hi NCS_One
[20:33] <NCS_One> how do I reload .Xresources?
[20:33] <boomboorum> Hi everybody. I have installed marlin - a replacement for my nautilus elementary. But do I make it work?
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> TTSDA: http://redmine.lighttpd.net/issues/1299
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: press Alt+F2 and run it
[20:35] <fosterdv> ActionParsnip: Hey how are you doing today? I had a crazy question, that I thought maybe you could answer... ?
[20:35] <TTSDA> Thanks
[20:35] <boomboorum> ActionParsnip: It starts, but looks like it is a program from like 10 years ago. Where did all the design go?
[20:36] <kevke> Hey ppl, I missed to autostart ssh on my webserver, how can I do this (system is a webserver on a farm
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> boomboorum: i don't use it and never have. Its an unofficial package so i suggest you contact the packager
[20:38] <boomboorum> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but it might be the problem with my computer. Because last week I had problem with nautilus. Its theme was changing on startup to a very old one
[20:40] <petrolman> How do get back the java console in Ubuntu 11.04. I need the console for debugging my java webstart programs
[20:41] <fosterdv> ActionParsnip: Do you have any tips, on troubleshooting issues, with running out of processes?
[20:41] <greywalk> hello. what package does ubuntu use to detect and connect to mobile broadband devices?
[20:42] <computerx> xrandr: I can't work out what name it wants for --output...
[20:42] <PRC> hi
[20:42] <NCS_One> how do I reload .Xresources?
[20:42] <fosterdv> I've been able to see on my server, where process running was httpd at 99%, and I had to restart to bring it back stable.
[20:42] <fosterdv> Hello PRC
[20:43] <PRC> hi fosterdv
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Gregwalk: usb-mode-switcher may be needed. Use the 8 character hex id to identify the device
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> fosterdv: not sure personally. How long has it been up?
[20:44] <IsmAvatar> hey folks, got a microphone here, not sure if it works or not. How can I test?
[20:45] <pcpower> skype test call
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: sound recorder
[20:46] <IsmAvatar> I tried sound recorder. It didn't record anything, and the Level at the bottom-right stayed empty.
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Skype often fails even when the mic works in other apps
[20:46] <omni_> Can anyone help me setup a network Dell Printer? I cannot locate the drivers after they have been installed.
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> IsmAvatar: run: alsamixer   and be sure the mic is unmuted and cranked
[20:47] <bazhang> omni_, check linuxprinting.org database
[20:48] <omni_> bazhang, thank you, i'll check that real quick
[20:49] <NCS_One> how do I reload .Xresources?
[20:50] <IsmAvatar> ActionParsnip: I'm seeing Front Mic and Front Mic Boost. I cranked them both up to 100 and turned the prior's MM into 00 by pressing the M key (which I assume means unmute)
[20:50] <IsmAvatar> still nothing on the sound recorder
[20:50] <tomshaw> Is git status always supposed to inform you of the file/files you've ignored in .gitignore?
[20:50] <tomshaw> Wrong irssi window :)
[20:51] <IsmAvatar> Should I be seeing something for it under Sound Preferences > Input? Because that lists no devices.
[20:52] <Hemika> Hello everyone, I have dual boot windows and ubuntu 10.10(Gnome) but unfortunately Ubuntu hangs too much, any suggestions to the problem?
[20:53] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: when does it hang?
[20:54] <omni_> bazhang, the dell drivers there do not have the version of printer i'm looking for. :\
[20:54] <peterhil> Hi! How are Serial ATA drive devs usually named?
[20:54] <BlessJah> one guy just removed xorg.conf, could someone using _nouveau_ paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[20:54] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys
[20:54] <saamm> anyone experiencing hyper mouse and touchpad sensitivity after xorg update in natty?
[20:54] <peterhil> /dev/sdX?
[20:54] <IsmAvatar> peterhil: hard drives? sda, sdb, etc
[20:54] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: All of a sudden anytime, i don't know the reason, i have installed Ubuntu inside windows
[20:55] <eamon> How do you get firefox 3.6 addons to work on firefox 4.0? I think thgere's an extension for it but the name escapes me.
[20:55] <peterhil> Ok, but if I have an PATA drive as IDE on /dev/sda
[20:55] <peterhil> Should the Serial ATA drive be /dev/sdb?
[20:55] <saamm>  anyone experiencing high mouse and touchpad sensitivity after xorg update in natty?
[20:55] <ChrisBuchholz> In the PowerMizer tab of NVIDIA X Server Settings app, "Performance mode" is set to "Maximum Performance". How do i set it to lowest? There is a "dropdown dialog" below where i can choose prefered mode, but it doesnt have any effect.
[20:55] <nimbiotics> is there a channel for ubuntu studio?
[20:56] <Pici> nimbiotics: #ubuntustudio
[20:56] <nimbiotics> Pici: THX!
[20:56] <peterhil> Should I load some kernel module? I think the motherboard has some VIA/nVidia chipset and has SATA controller
[20:56] <peterhil> I just plugged my old serial-ATA drive in
[20:56] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: thought you said dual boot.
[20:57] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: oh i am sorry, it is inside windows
[20:57] <klingelbart> noob question: if I install new programms, in wich directory are the files stored?
[20:57] <ChrisBuchholz> There was a /etc/X11/xorg.conf in earlier versions than natty. Where is it now?
[20:57] <BlouBlou> klingelbart: it depends of program :)
[20:58] <IsmAvatar> peterhil: not completely sure, but I think PATA goes to /dev/hda
[20:58] <klingelbart> hmm, im kinda comfused^^
[20:58] <nimbiotics> I've got ubuntu 11.04 installed. Can I upgrade to ubuntu studio or do I have to reinstall from zero? TIA!
[20:58] <maco> lsmnot in yeeeears
[20:58] <maco> IsmAvatar: not in yeeeears
[20:58] <bazhang> !info ubuntustudio-desktop
[20:58] <IsmAvatar> ah
[20:58] <bazhang> nimbiotics, ^^
[20:58] <IsmAvatar> shows how long I've been using linux
[20:58] <maco> IsmAvatar: as of about '07 ot '08, its all sd**
[20:59] <nimbiotics> bazhang: meaning?
[20:59] <peterhil> IsmAvatar: On this Fujitsu Siemens machine PATA shows as /dev/sda
[20:59] <semperubisububi> Oh wait
[20:59] <semperubisububi> ur a européen
[20:59] <bazhang> nimbiotics, install the package ubuntustudio-desktop
[20:59] <maco> peterhil: IsmAvatar is just outdated ;-)
[20:59] <klingelbart> if my ubuntu installation is based on the partitions home, root and swap, in wich of these partitions are folders like "bin" "boot" or "etc" stored?
[20:59] <michrz> Hi
[20:59] <maco> kleinerdrache: /
[21:00] <peterhil> maco: You mean old fashioned? ;-)
[21:00] <IsmAvatar> no, outdated
[21:00] <klingelbart> noob question: if my ubuntu installation is based on the partitions home, root and swap, in wich of these partitions are folders like "bin" "boot" or "etc" stored?
[21:00] <nimbiotics> OK, THX
[21:00] <petrolman> klingelbart, learn the hierarchy within the linux directory http://www.techrepublic.com/article/learn-the-hierarchy-within-the-linux-directory/5031957
[21:00] <maco> klingelbart: /
[21:00] <maco> kleinerdrache: sorry
[21:00] <IsmAvatar> peterhil: If your master pata drive is on sda, I'd expect your secondary sata drive to be on /dev/sdb
[21:00] <maco> klingelbart: its pronounced "root" but is written /
[21:00] <klingelbart> maco
[21:00] <maco> klingelbart: there's also "/root" which id usually call "slash root"
[21:01] <klingelbart> is there a different between / and root
[21:01] <maco> klingelbart: so /bin, /usr, /etc are all under /
[21:01] <klingelbart> but there is a folder called root under /
[21:01] <peterhil> Ok, it wasn't there. Maybe no kernel module was loaded or the SATA controller was disabled in BIOS - there was an option for that. And now it seems, I have accidentally set a password... :-/
[21:01] <maco> klingelbart: "the root partition" is how you say it out loud, but when you write, it, it's "the / partition", get it?  and yes, there's a /root, which is a directory named "root" inside the / partition, and functions as the root user's home directory
[21:02] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: Can you help me with my problem?
[21:02] <klingelbart> there is a folder called root under the main directory root? like root-root or "slash root"
[21:02] <IsmAvatar> peterhil: if it's not showing up, definitealy check the bios
[21:02] <michrz> I have a bit of a problem on my fathers laptop - it's with the detect display function. Displays are detected correctly, but after unplugging the remote screen there is a little box left in the upper left corner with the display name ('Laptop' in this case). And it won't go away until he reoots. Has anyone encountered such problem?
[21:02] <peterhil> Well, the machine is great otherwise. Amazingly responsive and fast compared to almost similar HW.
[21:02] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: sorry, I have no experience with Wubi.
[21:02] <peterhil> It has quite fast buses and memory I think
[21:02] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: aside from having lots of problems with it >_>
[21:02] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: oh okay
[21:02] <klingelbart> thanks maco. got it
[21:02] <maco> klingelbart: k good
[21:03] <peterhil> It's going to be my Linux dev machine.
[21:03] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: my recommendation is to fork over a little partition space and actually install an ubuntu partition.
[21:03] <wmarone_> is there any way to press someone to get the ages old Python + HTTPS + Proxy bug fixed?
[21:03] <peterhil> Is the only ways to reset the BIOS password to set a reset jumper on the MB or remove battery?
[21:04] <peterhil> Are...
[21:04] <michrz> it depends on BIOS
[21:04] <IsmAvatar> peterhil: if your secondary hard drive isn't showing up, I'd make sure it's connected properly and then make sure it's detected and enabled in the bios
[21:04] <edbian> peterhil: You don't know the password?
[21:04] <michrz> sometimes you can use one of the universla passwords
[21:04] <peterhil> No. I didnät set the password on purposefully...
[21:04] <IsmAvatar> because generally hard drives don't just up and walk off inside the OS.
[21:05] <klingelbart> the folder "home" is inside the root device. but i thought home and root were different partitions? is that not true?
[21:05] <peterhil> Ok, what are the usual ones?
[21:05] <michrz> or you can cast reset BIOS with the jumper (hope that it's a correct translation)
[21:05] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: Even i don't prefer inside windows but actually everytime i installed normally i never get the menu to choose between windows and ubuntu ie. the grub menu is never there
[21:05] <Pici> peterhil: This is a better question for #hardware, as it doesn't really have anything to do with Ubuntu
[21:05] <michrz> try to google them - search by MOBO manufacturers name
[21:05] <peterhil> Ok. Thanks for everyone.
[21:05] <omni_> I need help setting up a Printer.. Cannot find the drivers that were installed through the software center.
[21:05] <klingelbart> the folder "home" is inside the root device. but i thought home and root were different partitions? is that not true?
[21:05] <Pici> peterhil: sorry, ##hardware
[21:05] <michrz> or rather BIOS manufacturers name
[21:06] <klingelbart> noob-question: the folder "home" is inside the root device. but i thought home and root were different partitions? is that not true?
[21:06] <peterhil> I'm going to have a friday night out now. And see that BIOS PW later.
[21:06] <maco> klingelbart: when you mount a partition, you can mount it into any directory on the system
[21:06] <IsmAvatar> Hemika: if you install Ubuntu second (after Windows), then grub should show up.
[21:06] <Hemika> yes
[21:06] <maco> klingelbart: the directory onto which you mount it is called its "mountpoint" -- any directory can be a mountpoint
[21:06] <klingelbart> thanks maco
[21:06] <maco> klingelbart: if you look in your /etc/fstab file, you can see what the mountpoints are that you have configured for boot
[21:06] <michrz> Has anyone encountered problem with the "Display Monitor" functionality?
[21:07] <Hemika> IsmAvatar: Yes i know, i installed it after windows only everytime but still
[21:07] <klingelbart> mount point: place where i can find the thing a mounted?
[21:07] <maco> klingelbart: if your /home partition wasnt mounted, there would be an empty folder in its place
[21:07] <evon> Is there a way to change the size of the top panel so that it is shorter just on the left side?
[21:07] <maco> klingelbart: if you type "mount" on the command line, it lists ever partition that's mounted, where its mounted, and what its mount options are
[21:08] <klingelbart> thanks again maco. got so much questions^^
[21:08] <IsmAvatar> speaking of hard drives up and walking off, my live boot CD won't boot, because it apparently can't find /dev/sda...
[21:08] <IsmAvatar> why would it need to find /dev/sda?
[21:09] <guntbert> klingelbart: have a look at http://ubuntu-manual.org/ :)
[21:09] <bl4ckcomb`> is there some default gtk input box that can be used in bash scripts?
[21:09] <klingelbart> guntber: thanks
[21:10] <klingelbart> guntbert: thanks
[21:10] <saamm> anyone experiencing high mouse and touchpad sensitivity after xorg update in natty?
[21:10] <evon> not i
[21:10] <guntbert> klingelbart: you're welcome :-) (and you can use <tab> to autocomplete nick names)