[00:03] <ubuntu-mate> corect its for a chatbot or  an Ai
[00:07] <ubuntu-mate> nighty night
[00:08] <bazhang> http://meta-guide.com/software-meta-guide/100-best-github-aiml ubuntu
[00:09] <bazhang> argh
[00:27] <Jack3k3> adran turns out its something to do with virtual box gues additions, i disabled that and ubuntu works now (albeit in a still fucky state)
[00:28] <Adran> Jack3k3: if you're comfortable, KVM is way better if you're just doing linux
[00:28] <Jack3k3> cool ill take a look
[00:29] <intx> what executes /etc/init.d/cron on startup? it doesn't start on my VM
[00:29] <intx> I have to execute 'service cron start' manually
[00:30] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: is GRUB_DEFAULT set in /etc/default/grub ? also, check /boot/grub/grub.cfg, ensure the first 'menuentry' is using the 4.13 kernel (on it's linux ... line)
[00:36] <intx> anyone?
[00:36] <Athonathonathon> GRUB_DEFAULT is set to "Kubuntu" which is my first entry in Grub, and the first menuentry is set to use 4.10.0-33-generic. I've also noticed that the first menu entry does not have the settings I have set in the /etc/default/grub file on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line
[00:48] <intx> anyone know why cron isn't running on startup on ubuntu 16.04 lts?
[00:50] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: OK, so that suggests "sudo update-grub" isn't writing to the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or it is, it's selecting the wrong kernel. Check "ls -l /boot/{vmlinuz,initrd.img}-*" that you've got an initrd.img for the 4.13 kernel
[00:50] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: update-grub won't add a kernel entry if it doesn't have an initrd.img
[00:53] <Athonathonathon> Tj there are both vmlinuz and initrd files for 4.13.0-32, 4.13.0-31 and 4.10.0-33
[00:58] <grkblood13> I completely wiped my sd card with shred --delete and now I can't see the card with fdisk -l or gparted but I can dd to it with dd of=/dev/sdb. How do I recognize it to format it in this situation?
[00:59] <courrier> Why has the "Hibernate" feature disappeared by default from most distros in last years?
[01:12] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: OK, see if there's any mention of that version with "grep -n 4\.13 /boot/grub/grub.cfg "
[01:14] <Athonathonathon> Tj: There is some stuff popping up, looks to be in the entries in the default grub "Advanced options for kubuntu" menu
[01:19] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: Right; usually the most recent kernel version is the default, and then there's 2 or 3 entries for that version under Advanced ( standard + recovery)
[01:19] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: check the timestamp on the file in case it's not the one being generated by "sudo update-grub" with "ls -latr /boot/grub/"
[01:20] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: sometimes on EFI systems it might be using the EFI-SP, so try "find /boot -type f -name grub.cfg -ls "
[01:22] <Athonathonathon> So i ran `sudo update-grub` and then `ls -latr /boot/grub` and the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file had a very recent time stamp so I know thta it's being generated properly but when i ran `find /boot -type f -name grub.cfg -ls` there were actually two grub.cfg files found
[01:22] <Athonathonathon> one in /boot/grub/ and the other in /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg
[01:22] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: hmmm, one in /boot/efi/ ?
[01:22] <Athonathonathon> yup
[01:23] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: and I bet that one in /boot/efi/ is the one with the 4.10 default !
[01:24] <Athonathonathon> hm...
[01:24] <Athonathonathon> It doesn't appear so
[01:24] <Athonathonathon> It's only three lines
[01:24] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: "grep 'linux.*vmlinuz' /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg" should show the order
[01:25] <Athonathonathon> Here's its contents: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nvTtKxyFM8/
[01:26] <Athonathonathon> Looks like it points the configuration to /boot/grub/grub.cfg :/
[01:26] <Athonathonathon> However, looking at my /boot/grub/grub.cfg file the default one is still using the 4.10 kernel
[01:26] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: ahhh... and so does the UUID match the file-system where that is? "sudo blkid /dev/sd?? | grep 775f04f7-bc19-4557-8b50-3aadf96b996c"
[01:27] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: OK, so there's likely something changed in /etc/grub/grub.d/ scripts, or in the /etc/default/grub file where the configuration is set by the user
[01:29] <Athonathonathon> I don't think it's the /etc/default/grub file. It's contents are here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N5cp9F4qQt/
[01:30] <Athonathonathon> The only things of interest are i have it set to boot after 3 seconds. I have some options to try to get hibernation working (that's still WIP it's not working but i dont think it's the source here), and I have a background image
[01:30] <TJ-> Athonathonathon:  GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT="false"%
[01:30] <Athonathonathon> Ah
[01:30] <Athonathonathon> needs a newline at the end of the file?
[01:31] <Athonathonathon> I've done that and it's gone. I'll update grub again and report how it goes
[01:33] <Athonathonathon> Hmm, I've run `sudo update-grub` but in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file it's still 4.10
[01:33] <Athonathonathon> However I've noticed above the menuentry it has "### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom_proxy ###", so should we check /etc/grub.d/40_custom_proxy?
[01:33] <hfp> Hi, I have setup automated upgrades but I'm not sure I did it right. When I look at the unattended upgrades log, I see it is doing something but the same updates are always present so I suspect it's not installing them. And when I ssh into the machine, the number of can be updated and security updates count in the banner keep going up. I have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic file, would that override anything
[01:34] <hfp> set in 20auto-upgrades or 50unattended-upgrades? Or is it the other way around and the highest number takes precedence?
[01:34] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: can you "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" so I know precisely what the system sees?
[01:34] <Athonathonathon> yeah sure thing
[01:35] <TJ-> hfp: run-parts processes names alphabetically from lowest to highest so 01-ffff before 99-aaaa
[01:36] <Athonathonathon> Here it is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VhfKCtQgnX/
[01:37] <Athonathonathon> And here is /etc/grub.d/40_custom_proxy: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wR2Cq6dCTq/
[01:38] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: Arghhh... all those proxy things, we've seen this before. It's some 3rd party grub menu customiser that breaks every so often
[01:39] <Athonathonathon> haha yeah..... I might have one of those
[01:39] <Athonathonathon> grub-customizer
[01:40] <Athonathonathon> https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[01:40] <TJ-> That's the one! I recall dealing with a similar issue with that breaking the config
[01:40] <Athonathonathon> Ok so how do we fix it?
[01:41] <Athonathonathon> (as in uninstall it and restore grub to it's default configuration)
[01:41] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: I'm not sure; I'd hope it's a standard package that can be dealt with via apt
[01:42] <Athonathonathon> Yeah
[01:42] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: might be worth checking for bug reports for the package on Launchpad
[01:45] <Athonathonathon> Could i get rid of the proxy scripts in /etc/grub.d ?
[01:46] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: I suspect it's got it's hooks into things too deep and moved the original scripts out, so they need returning. There's no telling what else it's done
[01:47] <hfp> TJ-: So it means that the thing set in the file with the highest number takes precedence?
[01:49] <Athonathonathon> Could i theoretically run a `sudo apt install --reinstall grub` ?
[01:49] <TJ-> hfp: no, the opposite. lowest to highest. It just relies on a sorted directory listing using the current locale
[01:51] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: You'd actually need to do more than that since the package containing the scripts is  grub-common and it's not clear what else the customiser might change - it might be alterning /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig too
[01:51] <Athonathonathon> hmmmm
[01:53] <Athonathonathon> Could this possibly help? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:54] <marcos_> what is this
[01:57] <hfp> TJ-: I see... Any way to test my unattended-upgrades setup?
[01:58] <breetai> I am going nuts. it works from windows but not linux: ip x.x.x.6 gateway: x.x.x.1 netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:58] <breetai> I can ping x.x.x.5 and x.x.x.8 (both mine and up) but cant ping x.x.x.1 which is my gateway.
[01:59] <breetai> What can be wrong? It works just fine from Windows?
[02:00] <merryganjas> hi everyone i have laptop A and B..both running linux mint. both are reported to have 1366x768 resolution, but in linux i see A set to 1600x900 and B is set to 1366x768 and wont go any higher. also, when running the same game, A performs smoothly on same settings while B performs a bit laggy. laptop A game resolution is also set to 1600x900 laptop B game setting limited at 1366x768
[02:02] <merryganjas> laptop A has a radeon hd 6470m with only 256mb dedicated ram while laptop be is radeon r5 via an amd a8 apu with i think just direct memory access, no dedicated ram. is ram the bottleneck?
[02:02] <TJ-> hfp: see "man unattended-upgrade" - the --dry-run option
[02:03] <TJ-> breetai: check "ip route show"
[02:04] <TJ-> !mint | merryganjas
[02:10] <hfp> TJ-:  thanks
[02:20] <hotbakedpotato[m> are all apps protected by apparmor in ubuntu 16.04 or does it need to be turned on
[02:32] <Athonathonathon> Tj-: I might have found the source of my trouble
[02:33] <Athonathonathon> This is the contents of the /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/custom file: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cZsgDD2s7p/
[02:33] <Athonathonathon> looks like that 4.10 kernel is hard coded in
[02:35] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: urgh!
[02:35] <Athonathonathon> Looking here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/CustomMenus under Maintenance-Free Menuentries it says "There is a potential drawback of a custom menu when the 10_linux and/or 30_os-prober scripts have been disabled. A copied Linux menuentry normally contains a specific kernel and initrd image version number (such as 3.2.0-24) and will not change if a new kernel is introduced. "
[02:41] <iNeedHealing> Hi
[02:41] <iNeedHealing> Where can I submit bug with installing ?
[02:41] <iNeedHealing> Driver's messed
[02:41] <cfhowlett> !bug | iNeedHealing please read
[02:41] <iNeedHealing> Uh
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> I haven't installed it yet
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> How do ?
[02:42] <cfhowlett> "it"?
[02:42] <Boyette> how do u know there is a bug if you didnt install it yet ?
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> Ubuntu
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> Because I had a problem and fixed it
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> Duh
[02:42] <cfhowlett> iNeedHealing, read.  READ.  "... other ways ..."
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> Read whay
[02:42] <iNeedHealing> What
[02:43] <Boyette> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> Ok
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> Any way on phone ?
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> Like
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> App store
[02:43] <cfhowlett> no
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> That sucks
[02:43] <iNeedHealing> I'll wait for Ubuntu to be up
[02:44] <iNeedHealing> Note that the bug affects all derivatives of Ubuntu
[02:44] <cfhowlett> so you claim and yet you still haven't filed it.  thanks.
[02:44] <Athonathonathon> Tj-: Thanks so much for the help! I've got it working now `uname -r` returns 4.13.0-32-generic
[02:44] <iNeedHealing> There's no easy way to submit
[02:44] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: Yay!!
[02:44] <cfhowlett> Athonathonathon, outstanding!
[02:44] <iNeedHealing> TJ- I fixed the bug
[02:45] <iNeedHealing> Nvidia drivers on install are messed up
[02:45] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: let us know the bug # when you've reported it
[02:45] <iNeedHealing> OK, thanks for the help earlier :)
[02:46] <iNeedHealing> You're a star
[02:46] <TJ-> iNeedHealing: pleased you figured out the cause; it was a weird one
[02:46] <iNeedHealing> I wish cfhowlett were like you and not so aggressive
[02:48] <Athonathonathon> Tj-: the problem appeared to be when i renamed the grub menu entry from the default "Ubuntu" to "Kubuntu" it saved the state of the menu entry and hard coded it every time "update-grub" was ran.
[03:10] <Handover901> Hey, my Ubuntu GUI keeps crashing all the time! It crashes after a specific amount of time. It still works and I can SSH into it. Here is the logs before I rebooted the server (which temp. solves the problem): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y48QFPBYM4/
[03:10] <Handover901> Why is the server crashing
[03:10] <Handover901> Well its a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS
[03:46] <rizonz> hi guys
[03:46] <rizonz> is there a decent way to install a package janus from bionic in artful ?
[03:53] <tomcres> It's already in the repos. Just apt install janus
[04:03] <franklin> I love u all! <3
[04:04] <rydare> does Ubuntu now automatically mount ntfs drives rw
[04:04] <rydare> I've been away for a while
[04:04] <Ben64> when mounting ntfs, they are mounted rw
[04:09] <Handover901> Hey, my Ubuntu GUI keeps crashing all the time! It crashes after a specific amount of time. It still works and I can SSH into it. Here is the logs before I rebooted the server (which temp. solves the problem): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y48QFPBYM4/ - Well its a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS
[04:29] <rizonz> tanuki: old version
[04:29] <rizonz> tonyt: I added the bionic ones for the install of 0.2.6
[04:29] <rizonz> and removed them :D
[05:09] <Jack3k3> hey guys, im in a bit of a predicment that reguires me to run a work around commmand: echo "bash -c 'service snapd.boot-ok start '" | at now + 4 min
[05:10] <Jack3k3> issue is, i dont have 'at' installed on my machine, and I cant use apt to install stuff right now (hence the above workaround command to stop snapd from freezing it)
[05:10] <Jack3k3> is there another way to write this command without using the at program
[05:12] <Jack3k3> perhaps crontab ?
[05:12] <Menzador> Jack3k3 - Boot a Live image, chroot into the system, install at, and reboot?
[05:12] <CyberZaZa> hi
[05:12] <Jack3k3> Menzador, theres gotta be an easier way than that though
[05:13] <Menzador> I mean, chrooting *is* pretty easy, as I have to do it once in a blue moon to fix network drivers and other such things the kernel doesn't support in my hardware :P
[05:13] <Menzador> !chroot
[05:14] <Jack3k3> yeah but i have no live cd, makes things alot more complicated. I think crontab can do it, just need confirmation.. it seems like I could add the command in there
[05:22] <intx> what executes /etc/init.d/cron on startup? it doesn't start on my VM runinng ubuntu 16.04 for some reason
[05:23] <Menzador> intx - Ubuntu uses systemd, not sysvinit or upstart
[05:24] <intx> thanks
[05:34] <lincod> ذ° ر€رƒرپرپذ؛ذ¸ذµ ر‚رƒر‚ ذµرپر‚رŒ?
[05:35] <iNeedHealing> hi
[05:35] <iNeedHealing> how I can report bug ?
[05:36] <iNeedHealing> how I can report install bug please
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> !bug | iNeedHealing
[05:37] <iNeedHealing> thanks
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: from a terminal ubuntu-bug yourpackagename
[05:37] <iNeedHealing> uh
[05:37] <iNeedHealing> `ubuntu-bug ubuntu` ?
[05:38] <iNeedHealing> ubuntu fails to install because of graphics problem
[05:38] <iNeedHealing> GPU lockout
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: no, the package name thats affected
[05:38] <iNeedHealing> uh
[05:38] <iNeedHealing> so ubuntu install ?
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: its best to findout whats really happening first
[05:39] <iNeedHealing> I'm experiencing GPU lockout when installing
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: can you provide us all details, ubuntu version, graphics card chipset, wich step your blocked?
[05:39] <iNeedHealing> sure
[05:40] <iNeedHealing> 17.10.1, geforce 1050, no step
[05:40] <iNeedHealing> 17.10+ should I say
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: there's always a step where you blocked, like you put usb install in, and you stuck somwhere
[05:41] <iNeedHealing> I put the stick in
[05:41] <iNeedHealing> I booted
[05:41] <iNeedHealing> it got stuck
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: where exactly, what do you see
[05:41] <iNeedHealing> "GPU lockout"
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> text
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> black text on white screen
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | iNeedHealing try this
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> other way around rathert
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> I've already fixed it
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> with nomodeset
[05:42] <iNeedHealing> but why does it happen ?
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: have you tryed to login into xorg session?
[05:43] <iNeedHealing> I'm in it already
[05:43] <iNeedHealing> but it looks like trash
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: on wich driver version?
[05:43] <iNeedHealing> well whichever comes with 17.10
[05:43] <iNeedHealing> I've not even updated
[05:43] <iNeedHealing> that's how new this is
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: there's no such thing as default drivers, ubuntu chooses best scenario for your hardware
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: also, always up date your system after install
[05:44] <iNeedHealing> look, I couldn't even install with auto-install
[05:44] <iNeedHealing> I had to do manual
[05:44] <iNeedHealing> I just installed according to the script
[05:44] <iNeedHealing> in an arch chroot
[05:45] <iNeedHealing> I've not installed any drivers
[05:45] <iNeedHealing> whatever I'm using came with the installer
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: also be aware that ubuntu 17.10 is a non-lts version, meaning if you need something  a more stable choose an LTS
[05:45] <iNeedHealing> LTS keeps crashing
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: for 17.10 you dont have much options for your card, as nvidia & wayland are a no-go
[05:46] <iNeedHealing> if it helps I'm using ubuntu budgie
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: check ubuntu-drivers list from a terminal
[05:47] <iNeedHealing> I'm installing proprietary nvidia drivers already
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> iNeedHealing: i would go for a 16.04 install, with system up to date, try some drivers from your ubuntu-drivers list
[05:49] <iNeedHealing> as I said, lts kept crashing
[05:49] <iNeedHealing> lots of popups since install and then one day no boot
[05:49] <iNeedHealing> popups saying system is unstable
[05:50] <iNeedHealing> I just have `WaylandEnable=false` in my gdm config
[05:50] <iNeedHealing> it's trash anyway
[05:50] <dirk103> heyo
[05:50] <dirk103> I want to install https://www.nginx.com/resources/wiki/modules/push_stream/#push-stream-installation.
[05:51] <dirk103> Doesn't appear to be in nginx-extras. If I follow those installation instructions is it just going to mess everything up?
[05:51] <rydare> you generally don't want to do anything outside the package manager
[05:53] <rydare> you could try this ppa
[05:53] <rydare> https://launchpad.net/~dotz/+archive/ubuntu/nginx-with-push-stream-module
[05:53] <rydare> is that version from july of last year new enough?
[05:53] <iNeedHealing> fixed it
[05:53] <iNeedHealing> all work now
[05:53] <rydare> congrats iNeedHealing good nick btw
[05:54] <iNeedHealing> thanks
[05:54] <iNeedHealing> I'm a genji main
[05:54] <iNeedHealing> hi blood sausage
[05:55] <rydare> dirk103: that version of nginx is newer than the one in the repositories (default ones for ubuntu)
[05:56] <rydare> oh i'm on 16.04
[05:56] <rydare> might be different for newer versions
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> rydare: dont forget to mention the risks of using a ppa
[05:56] <rydare> oh yeah, and it voids your warranty and potentially breaks nginx
[05:56] <rydare> what works: you tell me
[05:56] <rydare> haha
[05:57] <rydare> anyone ever been on XDA forums
[05:57] <iNeedHealing> me
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> rydare: offtopic
[06:11] <kille> good morning yall
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> kille: welcome, how can we help you
[06:13] <kille> i'm here to observe. :) Sorry, was trying to be friendly there, maybe was not that clever. This is after all not really a chat room. ;) I like watching here, learn a lot.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> kille: sure mate, idle is no problem here
[06:15] <kille> lotuspsyche: (y) cool stuff man. have a kickass day!
[06:29] <netochka> hi. anyone who can help me with using Wine?
[06:30] <netochka> I installed Wine but can't run the Exe software that i want to run.
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> netochka: not all exe's will work on wine mate
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !appdb | netochka
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> netochka: wich program is it you need exactly? perhaps we have alternatives
[06:31] <netochka> I know. but it seems that problem is from my side and i'm doing something wrong. the Error is about Directory. says there is no such file or directory
[06:31] <netochka> It's Psiphon3
[06:32] <netochka> Something to bypass filters. other than TorBrowser
[06:32] <netochka> wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\psiphon3.exe"
[06:34] <netochka> If you know any free vpn service or such, that would be a huge help. coz Tor doesn' always work well with my int speed
[06:34] <EriC^^> !vpn
[06:34] <cfhowlett> netochka, you do know that file is maleware, yes?
[06:34] <netochka> Malware?
[06:34] <netochka> really?
[06:34] <cfhowlett> https://s3.amazonaws.com/0ubz-2q11-gi9y/en.html
[06:35] <netochka> Ty EriC^^
[06:35] <cfhowlett> netochka, let me rephrase --- could be malware.  apply caution.
[06:36] <netochka> cfhowlett: Ty. You see this app has been promoted by TVs and news medias outside of the country as a way for ppl to bypass the filters. but i will keep that in mind.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> netochka: try the psiphone linux script on github instead
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> netochka: wine version wont work properly
[06:37] <cfhowlett> as a point of curiosity, what country?  (feel free to ignore this question)
[06:37] <netochka> Iran
[06:37] <netochka> lotuspsychje:  ok Ty.
[06:46] <DirtyCajun> so... using iostat to see util %.  i have a 12 Disk raid6. No underlying drive is using more than 50% but dm-2 (the lvm lv) is at 100%. is there a way to optimize this
[06:57] <cfhowlett> !ping
[07:15] <CyberZaZa> hi
[07:17] <eraserpencil> Does anyone know how I could run a telnet server on 16.04?
[07:17] <cfhowlett> telnet?  folk still do that?
[07:17] <eraserpencil> All the guides I could find are for CentOS or 14.04
[07:17] <poutine> eraserpencil, what is the point? telnetd went out long ago because it's insecure
[07:17] <eraserpencil> aye
[07:18] <cfhowlett> anyway, telnet is integral to ubuntu.  opne a terminal.  type telnet.  do your thing.
[07:18] <eraserpencil> it's a small project im on that uses windows and  has communication over telnet
[07:18] <eraserpencil> hoping to hack it with ubuntu and telnet
[07:18] <poutine> cfhowlett, telnet server, not client
[07:18] <cfhowlett> ah, sorry
[07:19] <eraserpencil> im unfamiliar with telnet but how do i configure telnet server or even host one? I've been trying and googling for half a day
[07:19] <cfhowlett> eraserpencil, did you try google?  as in      telent + server + configuration?
[07:20] <eraserpencil> tutorial configs for 14.04 are slightly different for 16.04 and I couldnt make it work
[07:20] <cfhowlett> literally the very first hit
[07:20] <bazhang> !telnet | eraserpencil
[07:20] <eraserpencil> thats for CentOS?
[07:21] <bazhang> eraserpencil, are you not on ubuntu?
[07:21] <eraserpencil> yea
[07:21] <cfhowlett> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-and-enable-telnet-server-in-ubuntu-linux
[07:21] <bazhang> eraserpencil, this is ubuntu support we wont offer hints on centos here
[07:22] <eraserpencil> cfhowlett: I tried this, but couldnt get it working.
[07:23] <eraserpencil> bazhang: yea, i meant the top hit for me was a 2017 tutorial for centos and was surprised hence "that's for CentOS?"
[07:24] <eraserpencil> cfhowlett: i was missing /etc/xinetd.d/telnet and wasnt sure if i should create a file
[07:24] <EuphOria> Ok, I have a newbie-ish question.  How do I un-associate .sh scripts from a text editor so I can run it?
[07:24] <EuphOria> Running xubuntu 17.10
[07:24] <cfhowlett> eraserpencil, I'm no telnet talent.  and, as bazhang pointed out, it's inherently unsafe, insecure and should not be used. see ssh for a much better alternative.
[07:26] <EuphOria> I'm trying to execute it from Thunar, tho.  Is it the filemanager that is making the association to open the .sh script with a text editor instead of running it?
[07:27] <ducasse> EuphOria: you need an inet superserver, which one did you install? that tutorial seems to be for xinetd
[07:27] <ducasse> eraserpencil: ^^
[07:27] <ducasse> sorry
[07:28] <pwuertz> Hi, how does bug-fixing in Ubuntu work? Say, there is a known, reported bug in a main package with an upstream fix available, but there is no activity on the bug report. What is supposed to happen?
[07:28] <EuphOria> ducasse: I have no idea what you're talking about.  I'm just asking about executing .sh scripts instead of having them open in a text editor.
[07:28] <cfhowlett> pwuertz, depends on the severity of the bug.  best bet: subscribe to it.
[07:28] <ducasse> EuphOria: that message was not for you, sorry
[07:28] <EuphOria> ducasse: Ah!  :D
[07:29] <pwuertz> cfhowlett: Done, thats why I'm asking.
[07:29] <eraserpencil> ducasse: the apt repo seems to only have a telnet and telnetd package which i have installed
[07:29] <cfhowlett> pwuertz, the bug status will reflect the severity.  which bug is it?
[07:29] <ecstoian> my Ubuntu 14.04 system with luks-encrypted filesystems / and /var/directory complains, on boot, that: the disk drive for /var/directory is not ready yet or not present. any idea what could cause this issue ? the partition works when mounted manually with cryptsetup
[07:30] <ecstoian> and mount
[07:30] <halvor> hello
[07:30] <eraserpencil> cfhowlett: thanks, i know it's less secure, but  the default communication of this particular windows software is over telnet, hoping to listen in on it and maybe inject codes to it
[07:30] <EuphOria> Is my question too newbie-ish to be interesting?  lol
[07:31] <cfhowlett> best of luck, sorry I couldn't be more helpful eraserpencil
[07:31] <ducasse> eraserpencil: not what i'm talking about, you also need an inet superserver like xinetd - look at the dependencies
[07:31] <eraserpencil> cfhowlett: thanks though
[07:31] <halvor> Is it possible to have both IKEv2 and L2TP over IPSec VPN server (Strongswan) set up on the same server?
[07:32] <cfhowlett> EuphOria, don't you need to change the properties to make the script executable?
[07:32] <EuphOria> cfhowlett: Yes, and I've done that.  But it still wants to open in a text editor, or associated program.
[07:32] <eraserpencil> ducasse: let me read up on xinetd
[07:32] <pwuertz> Several, basically over the years I got the impression that none of the bugs I report are getting any attention from someone that has some kind of say in it. Thats why I'm asking what the general procedure for resolving bugs should be.
[07:33] <pwuertz> cfhowlett: But the particular bug I'm talking about right now is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/1725333
[07:34] <auronandace> EuphOria: open a terminal and run it: ./nameofscript
[07:35] <cfhowlett> pwuertz, seems to be undecided and unassigned.  until that is changed ... subscribe and wait
[07:36] <EuphOria> auronandace: Yes, I can run the script from a terminal, but it used to run .sh files from the file manager just fine.  Was wondering how to make it run from a filemanager again, and just manually open .sh files with a text editor rather than have it associated with a text editor to automatically open.
[07:39] <ducasse> eraserpencil: in theory i guess you should be able to start telnetd directly from systemd on connection, but i'm not familiar with how
[07:40] <eraserpencil> ducasse: my guess too but i'll see if  ##linux might know something
[07:41] <pwuertz> cfhowlett: I did subscribe and wait. I did so with all the bugs I reported so far, some of them are years old and never got any attention from somebody of authority. I'm quite disstatisfied with that strategy, it obviously doesn't work.
[07:42] <cfhowlett> pwuertz, "so say we all!"   but, yes, you are right on all accounts.  thus far, however, no one seems to have proposed a more responsive alternative.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: also good things to get solved, is try steps yourself and add to the bug, like other kernel etc
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: finding other users to subrscribe to the bug also helps alot
[07:45] <pwuertz> lotuspsychje: Like being a politician? Its so weird. Like in this example, the bug is identified, fix is available, and nobody reacts to the Ubuntu bug report saying so. There is literally no reason not to release the fix right now.
[07:47] <EuphOria> Ok, I have a question about finding out where my JRE directory is..  I have Oracle JRE 8 and 9 installed, and a program is asking me to specify the directory for the JRE.  How do I determine which "java" the system is using when I type "java -jar whatever.jar"
[07:47] <pwuertz> lotuspsychje: Another bug is.. I don't know.. 5 years old. I took the effort to identify the source of the problem, for years the solution is known, people are bickering about it in the bug report. But never ever someone with maintaining authority did show up.
[07:48] <ducasse> EuphOria: 'which java' will tell you
[07:48] <EuphOria> ducasse: Thank you, I will try that.
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: like i said, try to fill in stuff yourself, test steps, make your bug 'more active'
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> pwuertz: test on other machines, to see if you can reproduce your bug
[07:55] <pwuertz> lotuspsychje: What do you mean? I mean I already presented the solution on a silver platter in some cases. In some cases the presence of a bug is reported, known and fixed upstream, and attention is brought to the Ubuntu maintainers by bug report, yet nobody shows up to comment on that. So you guys say that isn't effort enough, you have to become some kind of politician to get something fixed?
[07:56] <bazhang> pwuertz, really here is not the place to carry on about bugfixes
[07:57] <Jack3k3> ughhh, i just killed my ubuntu install and now recovery and normal boot drop to a busybox shell. I know how to fix it, but as far as I can tell there are no text edittors in busy box... fuck!! any help?
[07:57] <pwuertz> bazhang: Where is this place you are suggesting? The Ubuntu bug tracker doesn't seem to be the right place obviously.
[07:57] <kille> pwuertz if you feel that strong, fix it yourself. every dev donates his time for free on those issues that you logged.
[07:57] <ducasse> pwuertz: maybe #ubuntu-bugs is a better place
[07:57] <pwuertz> kille: It IS already fixed! Thats the joke.
[07:57] <bazhang> pwuertz, thats enough here please
[07:58] <Jack3k3> I dont understand why they drop you to a shell that has no text editor :[
[07:58] <pwuertz> All right, see you.
[07:58] <Jack3k3> is my only solution a live cd?
[08:00] <kille> Jack3k3, if all else fails, that sounds like a good option?
[08:00] <kille> You don't have access to vi or nano or anything?
[08:01] <Jack3k3> kille no it drops you to a bare busybox ash shell if you have a problem like "gave up waiting for root device"
[08:02] <kille> Jack3k3 wow. that's rough, but it sounds like you have a solution? live cd it. :)
[08:03] <Bliss9> Jack3k3, doesn't it have vi?
[08:04] <Jack3k3> Bliss9 unbelievably not
[08:04] <Jack3k3> im pretty pissed actually. what is even the purpose
[08:04] <Bliss9> Jack3k3, odd, the manpage lists it
[08:05] <Jack3k3> yeah i dont know what the deal is
[08:13] <Jack3k3> Okay guys, apparently my fix did not work. because nothing is every easy for me today
[08:14] <Jack3k3> So my error is "gave up waiting for root device." and it says "ALERT! UUID=.......-b850fad1020f does not exist. Dropping to a shell.
[08:15] <Jack3k3> So first i verified uuid's were same between fstab and blkid
[08:15] <Jack3k3> also tried changing fstab to use /dev/sda1 /dev/sda5
[08:15] <Jack3k3> instead of uuid. One thing that's strange, I could've sworn before my root was on /dev/sda not /dev/sda1
[08:15] <Jack3k3> could be wrong though
[08:15] <Jack3k3> actually probably am since sda1 is the partition
[08:18] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: the uuid it's using is from grub not fstab i think
[08:18] <Jack3k3> strangely enough using one of the older kernel versions in the boot list boots up fine
[08:18] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: do you have a live usb you can boot right now to troubleshoot?
[08:18] <Jack3k3> so im back in now
[08:19] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: aha, upload your grub file 'cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termview.me 9999'
[08:19] <EriC^^> also 'sudo blkid | nc termview.me 9999'
[08:19] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, I can't, internet is broken on the VM
[08:19] <EriC^^> hm
[08:20] <Jack3k3> I realized I made a major screw up yesterday. I remove boost by hand as I thought a program I was compilign was seeing the wrong version..
[08:20] <Jack3k3> apparently I neglected to think about all the programs that depended on those libraries
[08:20] <Jack3k3> nm-applet is one of them itseems
[08:20] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: run "lsblk -f" look at the mountpoint "/"
[08:21] <Jack3k3> shows sda1 mountpoint to /
[08:21] <Jack3k3> with the same ...1020f uuid
[08:21] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: then run "grep vmlinuz /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and see if the UUID= match up to it
[08:24] <EriC^^> so?
[08:24] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, looks the same
[08:25] <EriC^^> ok
[08:25] <EuphOria> ?profane
[08:25] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, https://imgur.com/a/06vL0 not sure if theere is a reason why there are 3 entries for 112
[08:25] <Jack3k3> (112 is the one thats not working)
[08:26] <doge-doge> hey guys, is it safe to purge whoopsie and apport...
[08:26] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: one is the menu, the other in advanced options and recovery, it's normal
[08:26] <doge-doge> on ubuntu mate there's no "privacy settings" to disable crash reporting
[08:27] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: anyways, try maybe 'sudo update-initramfs -u -k all && sudo update-grub' won't hurt
[08:29] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, hmm same issue sadly
[08:29] <EriC^^> doge-doge: sudo xdiagnose has some options
[08:30] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: it's now always working with one kernel and not the other?
[08:30] <Jack3k3> yep..
[08:30] <EriC^^> odd
[08:31] <EriC^^> does a root delay help at all?
[08:31] <EriC^^> rootdelay=40 in grub for instance
[08:38] <Jack3k3> well, i want to pause that issue for a moment
[08:39] <Jack3k3> a more pressing one is that I can't get boost to reinstall correctly. The issue was i stupidly rm'd the boost files from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[08:39] <Jack3k3> well I need to reinstall it, so I tred apt install libboost-all-dev and it shows all the boost packages it will install but it installs almost no files
[08:40] <Jack3k3> if i do a dpkg -L libboost-all-dev, I only see it installed copyright and changelog.gz... nothing else. So for some reason its avoiding installing everything
[08:44] <CyberZaZa> !ping
[08:48] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: try with apt-get install --reinstall libboost..
[08:48] <ggz> hi
[08:49] <ggz> do you know a way to sync my firefox bookmarks with privacy in mind ? should i trust firefox sync regarding privacy ? ideal would be local network sync
[08:55] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, thanks that fixed it. now have internet again :) still other kernel is fubared
[08:56] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: good to hear
[08:56] <EriC^^> np
[09:07] <MoL0ToV> someone know if libreoffice6 il included in ubuntu 18.04 ?
[09:07] <MoL0ToV> * is
[09:07] <Jack3k3> EriC^^, do you think its possibel to remove the offending kernel version?
[09:08] <ducasse> !info libreoffice bionic | MoL0ToV
[09:08] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: you could set the default one in grub to the other one
[09:08] <ducasse> MoL0ToV: it's available as a snap, iirc
[09:09] <EriC^^> sounds good?
[09:09] <Jack3k3> yeah that works
[09:09] <computa_mike> hi - Trying to install OpenStack on ubuntu following the conjure-up video.  I'm running a virtual box VM.  During installation I get an error "Oops, there was a problem with your install:"  Screen shot here : https://img42.com/lFaJT
[09:10] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: get the name of the kernel from 'grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg'
[09:11] <EriC^^> Jack3k3: then type 'sudo nano /etc/default/grub' and paste the name with quotes next to DEFAULT= , e.g DEFAULT='Ubuntu, with Linux 4.4.0-112-generic'
[09:12] <EriC^^> save and run sudo update-grub
[10:11] <lovingdragoness> Hello
[10:11] <lovingdragoness> I'm helping a person in ##linux and they can't seem to find where Ubuntu's hosts file is
[10:12] <lovingdragoness> It's normally in /etc/hosts for Debian
[10:12] <ggz> bye
[10:12] <Roden> quak
[10:13] <ducasse> lovingdragoness: in ubuntu as well
[10:14] <lovingdragoness> Roden, It should just be located under '/etc/hosts', like ducasse said here
[10:14] <Roden> Right
[10:14] <Roden> it's there
[10:14] <Roden> i was just curious about the commands
[10:14] <Roden> i dunno much about grep.  i imagine you can use regex or something
[10:15] <lovingdragoness> You can view the contents of it with cat /etc/hosts
[10:15] <lovingdragoness> :)
[10:15] <Roden> i was wondering why people would have their server on two ips....
[10:15] <Roden> like a local and an internet ip
[10:16] <Lachezar> Roden: Typically the Internet IP is handled by a port-forwarding/proxying firewall.
[10:16] <Roden> and also about the multiple-ports example.  is that so you can have like a live version and a development version?
[10:16] <lovingdragoness> Roden, It should have '<IP_ADDRESS> <your hostname>' on the first couple of lines, which is what is displayed on the logic screen and in the top of the terminal usually
[10:16] <lovingdragoness> On ubuntu it defaults to the name of your computer when you installed Ubuntu, along with your username
[10:16] <Roden> I dunno I've been trying to figure out
[10:17] <lovingdragoness> For example, it would be lovingdragoness-Latitude-E6330, if I installed Ubuntu on my laptop
[10:17] <Roden> my friend said that they usually have every user with a local copy of the website, and then when they release features they release them to a small group of the users firs
[10:17] <Roden> but lovingdragoness i'm chaing my hosts file for web serving
[10:17] <lovingdragoness> Roden, Ubuntu's release cycle allows anyone to test the experimental releases :)
[10:18] <Lope> I'm trying to delete some annoying windows system files in an NTFS partition mounted RW in linux, but I get "Operation not supported" any ideas?
[10:18] <lovingdragoness> And no there's no "local copy of the website", the site is ubuntu.com, though your friend may have been referring to the mandb pages, which you can view to get help with various commands by using 'man <commandname>' in terminal :)
[10:18] <Roden> i'm not able to access my windows files for the same reason, Lope.  I never solved it, though.
[10:18] <lovingdragoness> Hello Lope
[10:18] <Roden> lovingdragoness, i'm talking about my own websites that I made myself
[10:19] <lovingdragoness> Lope, Please run 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g' in Terminal and let me know whether it is already installs or what happens :)
[10:19] <Lope> lovingdragoness: I'm already using that. running ubuntu 16.04
[10:20] <lovingdragoness> Lope, Ah, I see, it's a problem with the hibernation file making the disk in use, give me a minute while I find the workaround I used in the past :)
[10:20] <Lope> Thanks, lovingdragoness it's some folder in the user temp
[10:21] <lovingdragoness> Lope, Run 'sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXY' the x being the disk letter and y being the partition number for C: (not system reserved)
[10:21] <lovingdragoness> You should run 'lsblk' first in terminal to see what the drive letter is
[10:23] <lovingdragoness> It's normally 'sda' for the first disk in the computer, and for Windows booting from BIOS, C is usually 'sda2' or the '2' for the 2nd partition, though it's a different case for UEFI Windows, but lsblk should tell you the disk size :)
[10:23] <Lope> Solved it lovingdragoness. the temp files were made by ntlite. I opened ntlite and saw it had "mounted" stuff there. So I used the unmount option and the folder diappeared.
[10:23] <lovingdragoness> Ah okay :)
[10:23] <Lope> Strange thing is that it was occupying 10gb
[10:23] <Lope> even with the VM offline.
[10:49] <spaceninja> Hi Im trying to install FreeJ. Im following the guide on https://www.dyne.org/software/freej/. I just ran, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:jaromil/freej. Then update. But I get these error http://dpaste.com/2Z21C9S saying that a release file is missing. How do I override a release file even if it doesnt exist?
[10:51] <usr123> Hello, I am unable to share the folders from my windows(host) to ubuntu(Virtual Box) I already created the settings in shared folders, made it permanent and mounted. I cant find the shared folder in my ubuntu
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:53] <usr123> I can't even share my clipboard text across platforms
[11:17] <nmrp3> hi - I'm using ubuntu with kde and sddm
[11:17] <nmrp3> I have 4 panels
[11:17] <nmrp3> if I start up x with them all plugged in, then I'm rpresented with 4 blank screens
[11:17] <nmrp3> if I unplug 2, then I'm shown the login screen
[11:18] <nmrp3> I can ssh in from my laptop to look at logs and try things out
[11:20] <nmrp3> and `service sddm` thinks everything is great
[11:21] <ifndefx> hi I'm trying to install android-tools-adb and i'm getting a 404 - what can I do to resolve this ?
[11:22] <peterson> xubuntu core no audio - i need a mixer that I can specify which 3.5mm jacks are input and output (i know my realtek card is capable)
[11:32] <nmrp3> I'm not really sure how to go about debugging this
[11:32] <nmrp3> but it is a real pain
[11:37] <peterson> xubuntu core no audio - i need a mixer that I can specify which 3.5mm jacks are input and output (i know my realtek card is capable)
[11:39] <JimBunbtu> ifndefx, Any chance you are on an EOL version of Ubuntu?
[11:40] <JimBunbtu> nmrp3, Does the same thing happen if you use a different display manager such as Lightdm?
[11:42] <nmrp3> let's try @JimBunbtu - give me a moment
[11:43] <Lope> does anyone here know how to make a microsoft surface pro 2 boot from USB? I've installed Ubuntu 16.04 on it and now I want to dual boot with windows, so I need to boot windows, but can't boot from USB. The volume down boot procedure is ignored.
[11:45] <nmrp3> @JimBunbtu lightdm doesn't want to start - I've stopped sddm first, obviously
[11:45] <JimBunbtu> Lope, Can you not set boot from USB to be the first attempted option in the 'bios'?
[11:47] <JimBunbtu> nmrp3, The only other thing I would suggest is to make sure you have a primary display device set in your BIOS and don't have it set to auto if that is an option. Another question would be if the motherboard info/etc displays on any of the panels at boot or are they all black until you disconnect one+?
[11:47] <nmrp3> on boot, there's a single display active for the bios splash and for the first bit of ubuntu/grub
[11:48] <JimBunbtu> nmrp3, Am I correct in saying that single display is the only display on that video card and the rest are on 1 or more other video cards?
[11:48] <nmrp3> no, they are all on the same titanx card
[11:50] <JimBunbtu> nmrp3, Oh. I'm not familiar with the titanx (as far as the intricate things).
[11:51] <nmrp3> I think it's a fairly standard modern nvidia gpu, just with extra memory and more video outputs than normal
[11:51] <nmrp3> it runs on the normal nvidia drivers
[11:51] <JimBunbtu> nmrp3, I probably wont be of much more help at this point, but I do wonder if you have an onboard video card and if that one is trying to be the primary at that stage for some odd reason.
[11:52] <JimBunbtu> The way your titanx is working is different from my nvidia cards... on mine, I think all monitors are mirrors as startup.
[11:52] <nmrp3> I don't think so - there seems to be a legacy x cursor visible with sddm that moves about if I use the mouse
[11:55] <nmrp3> thanks - I'll see if anyone can help me in #sddm
[11:55] <Lope> JimBunbtu: there is no BIOS on the surface pro 2.
[11:56] <JimBunbtu> Lope... they call it the "UEFI Firmware"
[11:56] <JimBunbtu> Lope, Turn the device off all the way, press and hold the VolUp button and then tap the power button
[11:57] <Lope> JimBunbtu: volume up only gives me the menu to turn secure boot on/off and TPM on/off.
[11:57] <Lope> Volume down is supposed to be the boot options, but does not work.
[12:13] <Lope> oh wow, I just ran `efibootmgr` in linux and got Boot0000* Windows boot manager Boot0001* ubuntu Boot0002* debian. BootOrder: 0001,0002,0000. Now the question is how to change the boot order. Or even just reboot to the windows boot manager.
[12:14] <catphish> is ubuntu 18.04 server pre-release available yet?
[12:15] <geirha> !18.04 | catphish
[12:16] <catphish> thanks :)
[12:20] <Lope> I used `efibootmgr -n 0000` which set the NextBoot to 0000. And it seemed to try boot the windows bootloader, because it took a little longer than usual. But nothing happened. Then I tried again, holding volume down this time, but it didn't help. After trying the windows bootloader, it loaded the ubuntu bootloader.
[12:21] <netochka> I'm looking for free VPN extensions/add-ons for chromium and firefox. a trusted service.
[12:24] <ilunp> a
[12:24] <ilunp> da
[12:24] <ilunp> oh
[12:25] <ilunp> hhhhhhh
[12:25] <ilunp> what
[12:27] <ilunp> i canâ€کt open Firefox
[12:27] <ilunp> why
[12:27] <ilunp> how install
[12:27] <ilunp> chrome
[12:27] <ilunp> how install chrome
[12:34] <Mr1NK> hmmm
[12:39] <kille> ilunp go to chrome download, download the deb, and double click it to install.
[12:39] <kille> oh wait lol
[12:39] <kille> use wget
[12:39] <kille> let me get it for you
[12:40] <kille> ilunp open terminal
[12:41] <kille> cd Download
[12:41] <kille> wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[12:41] <kille> it will download into your Download folder
[12:41] <kille> then you can install as always
[12:41] <kille> from deb package
[12:41] <Tin_man> ilump, disconnected some time ago.
[12:42] <kille> hid the joins and leaves, sorry man, thanks.
[12:44] <Tin_man> no biggie, we've all done it at one time.
[12:45] <Tin_man> at least i have.
[12:45] <kille> was trying to be the helpful guy. hope he got it.
[12:46] <Tin_man> actually he diconnected right after he asked.  I learned to us the auto complete, it helps if you have joins and parts, hid.
[12:46] <kille> how does that work?
[12:47] <Tin_man> just start typing the first part of nick, and hit the TAB key.
[12:47] <kille> Tin_man: like regular old term. WHo'd have thought. And if he is Dc'ed, it wont complete??
[12:47] <Tin_man> if the nick is online, it will complete the nick, if not it won't
[12:48] <kille> Tin_man: Excellent!
[12:48] <Tin_man> right
[12:48] <kille> Thanks bro
[12:48] <laudecay> hi I don't have root but I need some of the headers in python3-dev. How would I install this in my homedir?
[12:48] <laudecay> (sorry I'm coming from arch and don't know much about apt)
[12:48] <Tin_man> np kille ..
[12:50] <laudecay> i tried make install to my homedir, but gcc couldn't find the headers
[12:51] <kille> laudecay: i wish i could help, but i'm not that confident yet. learning though. :) glhf
[12:52] <kille> maybe ask in the dev forum?
[12:52] <kille> ##development
[13:33] <lazyloading> hel
[13:37] <markus__> i had two os windows 7 and ubuntu 16 , i was using easybcd to control the bootloader and then i decided to live with ubuntu for the rest of my life. i logged in to ubuntu formatted the windows partition, restarted the pc and found myself unable to boot so i booted with ubuntu live cd,  tried to repair the grub but no benefit , finally i had to install ubuntu 14 on different partition and now i can boot but i don't want to keep u
[13:37] <markus__> buntu 14 just to boot the system. i tried to change the boot flag and running "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" command from ubuntu 14 but no benefit . please help me.
[13:40] <markus__> i want to remove ubuntu 14 without messing with bootloader again
[14:03] <DiecastMessiah> well cannot help with grub loader. but why would ya live cd for the rest of your life with ubuntu ... you may want KNOPPIX if you plan on live cd or usb Also if you live cd and want to keep windows installed i would think you can remove the bootloaders and fix the boot and MBR so windows will boot if you remve your linux live cd
[14:05] <oerheks> he removed windows, and with that easybcd i guess.. reinstall of grub on sda should work, is there something else special about this system? UEFI bios?
[14:07] <DiecastMessiah> oh ok
[14:07] <DiecastMessiah> oh he leave anyway..
[14:07] <DiecastMessiah> left*
[14:12] <hendryirvin> hello, anyone know how to enable flash on chromium?
[14:12] <sudo-the-pirate> did you have windows on a separate drive or did you partition your hard drive?
[14:14] <oerheks> hendryirvin, Add the Canonical Partners software in softwarecenter/sources, and install adobe-flashplugin.
[14:14] <oerheks> then restart chromium
[14:19] <hendryirvin> i do it in settings > software & updates and in other software tab, i checked 2 of those canonical partners
[14:19] <hendryirvin> is that correct?
[14:21] <DiecastMessiah> i think you can do without the source one
[14:21] <DiecastMessiah> than sudo apt-get update before you install the plugin said before
[14:22] <oerheks> hendryirvin, yes
[14:22] <oerheks> DiecastMessiah, adobe flash is prop software
[14:23] <oerheks> ow wait, you point at source*(code)...
[14:23] <DiecastMessiah> oh i thought you wouldn't need the source unless you plan on programing
[14:23] <hendryirvin> i checked both tho
[14:23] <oerheks> no that is correct, sourcecode is only needed if you want to build something
[14:27] <donofrio> so how do I correct this message "Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 compiz-core amd64 1:<IP_ADDRESS>+16.04.20160823-0ubuntu1  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]" when it just downloaded 500+ packages just fine....https://apaste.info/Hjxv (fix-missing didn't resolve it so far...thoughts?)
[14:29] <Tin_man> donofrio, I believe sometimes the server goes offline, I'd just try later..
[14:30] <donofrio> Tin_man, ok I'll try again in an hour.....if others have ideas I'm open to checking things just let me know what to do
[14:32] <DiecastMessiah> guessing if it worked just before htat its like tin man said it maybe just download for a bit
[14:32] <DiecastMessiah> oops down for a bit
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[14:36] <oerheks> time for +R
[14:37] <mquin> oerheks: "+q $~a" is equivilent on this ircd
[14:37] <Tin_man> or a tall tree and a rope..
[14:39] <donofrio> Tin_man, server is working fine at archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/ is correct path but it's looking for non-existant path of "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu%20xenial-updates/main%20amd64%20compiz-core%20amd64%201:<IP_ADDRESS>+16.04.20160823-0ubuntu1" so it's on the server incorrect for 16.04?
[14:40] <oerheks> donofrio, maybe it is not down, just in sync with new packages?? tray again in a few minutes
[14:40] <donofrio> oerheks, it's up
[14:40] <anddam> donofrio: are you up-to-date?
[14:40] <donofrio> anddam, hu?
[14:40] <Tin_man> yes, don't know all the magic that takes place for the servers, surprised they work as good as they do
[14:41] <donofrio> I'm trying to get ubuntu-desktop package installed and its 500+ packages d/l'ed but not these last 10 or more?
[14:41] <mustmodify> When I ssh into my ubuntu machine, I can use the hostname `logopolis`. For various unfortunate reasons, logopolis is typically collected by wifi. If I plug in an ethernet port, use that for a while, and then unplug it, I can no longer ssh by hostname. Can someone explain how that process is supposed to work, or ... just ... any thoughts about what to google?
[14:41] <donofrio> oerheks, it's the paths they are in diffrent directories?
[14:43] <anddam> mustmodify: probably the dhcp server is caching the name for local name solving
[14:43] <anddam> donofrio: the server is up or you wouldn't get the 404, but I wonder if your apt instance is trying to access an outdated package version
[14:44] <ducasse> donofrio: we still don't support wsl here
[14:44] <donofrio> indexes for packages are off....I manually found "compiz-core_<IP_ADDRESS>+14.04.20160425-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb" when my error states it is looking for 23 not 25?
[14:44] <grkblood13> I completely wiped my sd card with shred --delete and now I can't see the card with fdisk -l or gparted but I can dd to it with dd of=/dev/sdb. How do I recognize it to format it in this situation?
[14:44] <donofrio> anddam, yah seems like that
[14:45] <anddam> donofrio: hence my previous question
[14:45] <anddam> grkblood13: how do fdisk and gparted not "see" the device?
[14:45] <grkblood13> anddam, I dont know but they dont
[14:46] <anddam> grkblood13: you didn't specify the commands you ran
[14:46] <grkblood13> fdisk -l
[14:46] <anddam> donofrio: "manually found"
[14:47] <anddam> donofrio: "manually found" <--?
[14:47] <oerheks> donofrio, just try again: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:47] <anddam> grkblood13: and how is fdisk supposed to figure you want to list the sdcard if you don't pass the device to it?
[14:47] <donofrio> anddam, yes I copy and pasted the url that it used and the directory opened just seemed to be trying to get a olderversion?
[14:47] <akik> anddam: fdisk -l lists all the storage devices
[14:48] <anddam> akik: I see
[14:48] <grkblood13> is someone that doesn't know how fdisk works trying to tell me how I'm using fdisk wrong?
[14:48] <grkblood13> :/
[14:49] <akik> grkblood13: did you use something like safely remove instead of umount before you started working on the sd card?
[14:49] <grkblood13> not that I can remember
[14:49] <akik> grkblood13: on kubuntu that removes the device from the system so that you need to re-insert it
[14:49] <donofrio> oerheks, it finished (only upgraded one package)
[14:49] <grkblood13> akik, I ran shred --remove -vzn 0 /dev/sdb* and now I'm having these issues
[14:50] <oerheks> donofrio, wait, is this WSL??
[14:50] <akik> grkblood13: and if you're using /dev/sdb with dd, it should be visible for fdisk/gparted too
[14:50] <grkblood13> it's weird because I can still dd to /dev/sdb but I cant recognize that card to format it
[14:50] <grkblood13> akik, I agree, but for some reason I can't
[14:50] <anddam> grkblood13: that's question asking 101, not related to fdisk specific syntax
[14:51] <donofrio> oerheks, it's a path issue on the server cause the 23 file doesn't exist but a newer 25 file does?
[14:51] <anddam> grkblood13: anyway did you try a partprobe?
[14:51] <akik> grkblood13: why did you give /dev/sdb to shred options? it's supposed to be using files
[14:51] <grkblood13> yea, partprobe doesn't help
[14:51] <oerheks> donofrio, and what happens if you run this again? sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:52] <grkblood13> I'm not sure I understand the question akik
[14:52] <akik> grkblood13: the shred man page says that you give file names as its targets, not the storage device name
[14:52] <oerheks> compiz-core on wsl, that would give fun ..
[14:53] <grkblood13> oh, I ran across that on google in my question to completely erase a hard drive. Maybe I shouldn't have done that.
[14:53] <grkblood13> on my quest*
[14:54] <akik> grkblood13: try a reboot
[14:55] <grkblood13> alright, I'll do that and come back in.
[14:55] <donofrio> oerheks, someone must have rerun the rsync job cause I think it's working now....
[14:55] <oerheks> donofrio, know behaviour when the server is in sync, have fun!
[14:57] <donofrio> oerheks, and yes this is WSL 16.04 I'm working on ;)
[14:59] <markus__>  i had two os windows 7 and ubuntu 16 , i was using easybcd to control the bootloader and then i decided to live with ubuntu for the rest of my life. i logged in to ubuntu formatted the windows partition, restarted the pc and found myself unable to boot so i booted with ubuntu live cd,  tried to repair the grub but no benefit , finally i had to install ubuntu 14 on different partition and now i can boot but i don't want to keep u
[14:59] <markus__>  buntu 14 just to boot the system. i tried to change the boot flag and running "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" command from ubuntu 14 but no benefit.please help
[15:00] <akik> markus__: is your 16.04 installation still left in a working condition?
[15:00] <markus__> yes
[15:00] <markus__> i am using it right now
[15:00] <akik> markus__: you can re-install grub through the ubuntu live session
[15:00] <akik> oh
[15:01] <akik> markus__: so is it a uefi boot or non-uefi boot?
[15:01] <markus__> i dont know. how can i check
[15:02] <markus__> are you talking about ubuntu 16 or 14?
[15:02] <akik> markus__: do you see /sys/firmware/efi ?
[15:02] <grkblood13> no luck akik
[15:02] <grkblood13> gparted still doesnt recognize the device
[15:02] <akik> grkblood13: how about sudo fdisk -l ?
[15:02] <markus__> ubuntu 16 is not efi
[15:03] <markus__> i have only acpi,memmap and dmi inside firmware directory
[15:03] <akik> markus__: ok so you use the mbr of the disk for booting?
[15:03] <markus__> yes
[15:04] <akik> markus__: so it should be just as easy as "sudo grub-install /dev/sdX"
[15:04] <grkblood13> akik, fdisk doesnt work either
[15:04] <akik> markus__: if you're now booted in 16.04
[15:04] <markus__> yes
[15:04] <markus__> i am booted on 16.04
[15:04] <akik> grkblood13: doesn't work? what does that mean?
[15:05] <akik> markus__: ok try running that command
[15:05] <grkblood13> it outputs /dev/sda which is my primary but not sdb which is the sd card
[15:05] <akik> markus__: replace sdX with the correct device name
[15:05] <markus__> i tried running the same command from ubuntu 14 and then change he boot flag to my ubuntu 16 partition , and was unable to boot.
[15:06] <markus__> should i try that on ubuntu 16
[15:06] <akik> grkblood13: remove the sd card, then run "dmesg -Tw" and reinsert the sd card
[15:07] <akik> markus__: the grub-install command should work in your case as you're using the mbr
[15:07] <akik> grkblood13: you should see lines about the sd card there
[15:07] <markus__> i run the command and it completed successfully should i now change the boot flag to ubuntu 16 partition from gparted
[15:08] <akik> markus__: i thought linux doesn't care about the boot flag
[15:08] <akik> markus__: but sure try it if it's needed
[15:08] <grkblood13> akik, when I pop in the sd card no new lines from dmesg show up
[15:09] <akik> grkblood13: maybe it's broken? try it in another machine
[15:09] <markus__> so can i  safely format the ubuntu 14 partition
[15:09] <grkblood13> akik, ill try another sd card, 1 sec
[15:09] <akik> markus__: not before you've tested the boot
[15:11] <grkblood13> akik, i think youre right. my sd card adapter is screwed up
[15:11] <markus__> ok i am gonna reboot .
[15:17] <DiecastMessiah> can see that my adapter is not that great.. i have one in my camera that i never take out after i got it working.. lucky i can take out the microSd card of my camera without removing the adapter. if i do i have to play with it to get it working
[15:18] <markus__> changed the boot flag to ubuntu 16, and rebooted but system didn't let me boot it tried to boot from pxe something. i again logged in from ubuntu live cd change the boot flag to ubuntu 14 partition and now i am able to boot.
[15:19] <akik> markus__: can you pastebin "sudo parted -ls" ?
[15:21] <markus__> https://pastebin.com/48v2FkEU
[15:22] <akik> markus__: and partition 2 = 14.04, partition 7 = 16.04 ?
[15:22] <markus__> yes
[15:23] <Tecan> is there a text installer ?
[15:24] <Tecan> for the os
[15:24] <akik> markus__: how about trying once more, remove the boot flag completely and run "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" when in 16.04
[15:25] <markus__> sure
[15:25] <akik> markus__: somebody else needs to chime in. i don't know what's the problem
[15:26] <DiecastMessiah> Tecan what is the question?? you looking for a text editor program orrr
[15:26] <Tecan> like this http://www.brighthub.com/computing/linux/articles/121548.aspx
[15:27] <Tecan> for some reason the installer windows are too big on my tablet
[15:27] <DiecastMessiah> oh a text based installer
[15:28]  * DiecastMessiah hides behind a Rock with Newbie painted on it
[15:30] <ducasse> Tecan: the server image and the lubuntu alternate image has text based installers
[15:30] <markus__> same problem
[15:30] <markus__> no benefit @akik
[15:30] <akik> markus__: sorry, i'm out of ideas
[15:30] <DriftedInward> Hello. Does anyone know how to mount a home directory on a / filesystem that has been encrypted with eCryptfs. I'm trying to mount it from Arch Linux.
[15:31] <markus__> ok.. maybe i should continue with it as of now.
[15:31] <markus__> thanks btw @akik
[15:32] <akik> markus__: maybe boot off a ubuntu 16.04 stick in a live session
[15:33] <DriftedInward> Executing `ecryptfs-mount-private` from the directory results in this message:  https://pastebin.com/6RqXqtUe
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> its ok to paste in chat if it only one line,,
[15:36] <DiecastMessiah> cannot help with that just saying its cool
[15:38] <DriftedInward> DiecastMessiah: Ok. Some places don't even want one lines. :)
[15:39] <DiecastMessiah> wow really.. sorry, but all good here anyway
[15:47] <anddam> IRC's rule of thumb was 3 lines
[15:50] <domino14> at some point i think I accidentally installed or enabled `libinput`. So clicking on pointer speed for my mouse in the Settings window does nothing I think
[15:50] <domino14> I can't figure out how to disable it or uninstall it. Anyone know?
[15:54] <DriftedInward> domino14: Lookup the package name for `libinput` and run `sudo apt-get remove $packagename`
[15:54] <domino14> how do i look up that package name
[15:54] <SimonNL> you could find it in terminal history
[15:55] <SimonNL> type history and find the install command
[15:56] <SimonNL> or history|grep install
[15:56] <domino14> this was ages ago
[15:56] <SimonNL> with a lot of luck still in there
[15:56] <domino14> checked, not in there :(
[15:57] <domino14> there is a file named 40-libinput.conf in `/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/`
[15:57] <akik> domino14: sudo grep libinput /var/log/apt/history*
[15:58] <akik> domino14: the older history files are gzipped so you need to use zgrep for those
[15:58] <Taz-> sudo apt-file find libinput
[15:58] <Taz-> sudo aptitude purge $package
[15:58] <domino14> no apt-file found
[15:59] <ducasse> domino14: 'apt search --names-only libinput'
[16:00] <Taz-> as akik suggested: sudo zgrep libinput /var/log/apt/history*
[16:09] <aiden> Hello, Newb to Ubuntu here. Wondering how to use Msi files or .Exe files on a overtaken windows ten computer
[16:09] <aiden> Do I need to put in a command line in the terminal to run those files?
[16:10] <aiden> If anyone could be of help, it would be great.
[16:11] <ducasse> aiden: you need wine to run those
[16:11] <ducasse> !wine | aiden
[16:11] <aiden> Awesome
[16:12] <domino14> ok, I uninstalled libinput and rebooted my computer
[16:12] <domino14> and now I can't find the settings cog on the side
[16:12] <aiden> and with wine can I not only run .exe but install though it?
[16:12] <domino14> what is it called? how do i see my settings. why is it not called settings
[16:12] <ducasse> aiden: yes
[16:13] <aiden> Alright, big help thank you
[16:14] <auronandace> aiden: what exactly are you trying to run?
[16:15] <aiden> Im trying to run a android emulator as well as some programs I use like Process hack and fing
[16:15] <Fedos> yayo
[16:16] <aiden> My emulator is for more causal things like apps and such that I can use though the emulator
[16:16] <Fedos> what up homies
[16:16] <auronandace> aiden: for some things it may be better to find a native alternative
[16:16] <Fedos> lol ner
[16:16] <Fedos> nerd
[16:16] <aiden> Such as?
[16:17] <auronandace> aiden: what is process hack for?
[16:17] <aiden> Removing lanschool from the base windows
[16:17] <domino14> why the hell would uninstalling libinput also uninstall unity-control-center. anyway , I figured out how to reinstall it and now my mouse pointer speed can be changed from "still way too fast" to "if a mosquito lands on the mouse, literally move the cursor to the moon"
[16:18] <aiden> Cause Im using Ubuntu as a way of getting around restrictions made by my district admin
[16:18] <Fedos> how do you rearrange the lepton alignment chambers without causing a photonic overload in the quantum subdrive?
[16:18] <aiden> for my schools computer
[16:19] <Fedos> pls someone help
[16:19] <aiden> So Im trying to use ubuntu as as a way of getting around it without harming the computer itself
[16:19] <ducasse> aiden: that's not really something we are going to help with
[16:19] <Fedos> can you help me ducasse?
[16:20] <aiden> Thats fine, thanks anyway
[16:20] <Fedos> my gravity drive is getting heated
[16:20] <akik> Fedos: please stop spamming the channel with nonsense. this is for ubuntu support
[16:20] <domino14> Fedos: sudo apt-get install lepton-non-photonic-overload
[16:20] <Fedos> Well you guys are using bigass words i don't understand
[16:20] <aiden> Im just trying to get some help
[16:20] <Fedos> so im gonna do the same!
[16:20] <Fedos> now about my lepton alignment chambers
[16:20] <aiden> Sorry
[16:21] <domino14> great, uninstalling libinput also removed that random constant crackling in my headphones. Maybe Ubuntu is somewhat usable after all!
[16:21] <aiden> I'm new to this so I cant really help as of yet
[16:21] <Fedos> i am worried that the superfluids will squirt out of them if they are stroked too much while inside the hadron tube
[16:21] <akik> !ops | Fedos
[16:21] <domino14> lol
[16:21] <Fedos> hey don't do that
[16:21] <Fedos> i did nothing wrong
[16:21] <auronandace> Fedos: clearly you haven't read the topic
[16:21] <Fedos> i committetted no crime
[16:22] <Fedos> " (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -"
[16:22] <Fedos> this is no emergency
[16:22] <Fedos> this is a mere dispute
[16:22] <akik> Fedos: there's no dispute
[16:23] <Fedos> um yea
[16:23] <Fedos> you soyboy
[16:23] <akik> Fedos: i asked you to stop the spam
[16:23] <Fedos> ur not a mod
[16:23] <hggdh> Fedos: please keep on topic. If you want to *chat*, go elsewhere.
[16:23] <Fedos> nor are you my dad
[16:24] <aiden> What other channels does Hexchat offer?
[16:24] <ducasse> !alis | aiden
[16:24] <aiden> Cool
[16:24] <hylian> Fedos: #ubuntu-offtopic is a great place to chat it up in a less formal channel..
[16:24] <auronandace> aiden: hexchat is a client, freenode is the network that hosts the channels, #ubuntu is one of the channels on freenode
[16:25] <aiden> That makes more sense
[16:25] <Fedos> tl;dr
[16:26] <aiden> So this chat probably is not where I should be.
[16:26] <aiden> Alright Peace
[16:26] <auronandace> aiden: if you need help with supported ubuntu releases then this is the right place
[16:26] <aiden> ok
[16:27] <Fedos> I have no time for your petty degenerate banter
[16:27] <domino14> go vote for Trump
[16:27] <akik> :)
[16:27] <Fedos> wrong
[16:28] <eaglgenes101> I got an issue with the full disk encryption I set up
[16:28] <Fedos> i was warned by a mere non-op
[16:28] <akik> Fedos: oh please, i asked you to stop the spam
[16:28] <eaglgenes101> I can get it to boot a kernel, but then the kernel is lost about how to mount the luks partition
[16:28] <domino14> Fedos are you a neocon / shooter sympathizer?
[16:28] <hggdh> Fedos: if you wish to discuss this, please come in to #ubuntu-ops
[16:28] <hggdh> domino14: please stop
[16:29] <eaglgenes101> It can't find a particular mapper device apparently
[16:29] <domino14> ugh fine but it's fun
[16:29] <hggdh> domino14: not here. You have been warned
[16:30] <Fedos> i do not like akik's degenerate mod larp
[16:31] <hggdh> sigh
[16:31] <Fedos> sad!
[16:31] <Fedos> no
[16:32] <eaglgenes101> anyway
[16:32] <eaglgenes101> Where should I look first for full disk encryption problems
[16:33] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: you're looking for some problems? Or wanting to solve your own problems?
[16:33] <eaglgenes101> Im trying to solve my own problems
[16:33] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: give us some details
[16:34] <oerheks>  but then the kernel is lost about how to mount the luks partition .. ?
[16:34] <eaglgenes101> Okay, so grub can boot the kernel no problem, but then the kernel is lost about where to find root
[16:34] <eaglgenes101> It seems to expect a particular dev mapper device
[16:35] <eaglgenes101> And the initramfs doesnt have cryptsetup so I cant manually supply it the dev mapper device
[16:35] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: Right. Is the system also using LVM?
[16:36] <eaglgenes101> No, just btrfs on top of luks on top of a physical partition
[16:36] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: usually cryptsetup missing from initrd.img means there's no entry in /etc/crypttab
[16:36] <eaglgenes101> How do I add this
[16:36] <eaglgenes101> Got my live cd ready
[16:37] <eaglgenes101> Or rather live usb
[16:37] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: because cryptsetup installs hooks into update-initramfs so it can add what's required when it sees the rootfs is LUKS encrypted
[16:37] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: Do you know how to access the 'problem' OS using a chroot ?
[16:38] <eaglgenes101> Yes, and I did so to point grub towards the kernel
[16:39] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: OK, so you'll have created a /target/ mountpoint, done "cryptsetup open" then something like "mount /dev/mapper/xxxx /target" and bind-mounted /rproc /sys /dev into /target/ then "chroot /target" ?
[16:40] <eaglgenes101> Im currently assembling the chroot environment
[16:41] <donofrio> same exact error when I go from 16.04 to 18.04 I get these "Failed to replace specifiers: /tmp/systemd-private-%b-*" any thoughts on why "Executing: /lib/systemd/systemd-sysv-install enable ondemand" cannot deal with these files if they exist already?
[16:41] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: OK, once you've mounted the rootfs and before entering the chroot, do "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"  then you do "sudo chroot /target" and then, in the chroot, start off with "mount -a" (which completes the automounts from /etc/fstab) then do "cat /etc/crypttab" and check for an entry for the rootfs
[16:42] <eaglgenes101> I've chrooted into my install
[16:42] <eaglgenes101> Now how do I update initramfs so it understands the luks partition
[16:43] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: you need to first ensure there's a (vaid) entry for the root file-system in /etc/cryptab - once that's done it's simply "update-initramfs -u -k all"
[16:43] <TJ-> s/vaid/valid/
[16:44] <TJ-> Grrr, /etc/crypttab ! my typing is terrrible today
[16:45] <eaglgenes101> Its currently root UUID=<partition uuid> none luks,discard
[16:45] <adam__> hi
[16:45] <eaglgenes101> Thats the only line in etc crypttab right now
[16:45] <eaglgenes101> Looks right?
[16:46] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: OK, for mine I have "LUKS_OS   UUID=f7175e39-2594-4cb9-b842-de2e1c208f61 none luks,discard"
[16:46] <eaglgenes101> What does the first word in the entry mean?
[16:46] <eaglgenes101> Does it have to match something?
[16:48] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: Yes, so the update-initramfs command should ensure the initrd has the tools added. if you use "update-initramfs -v -u -k all |& tee /tmp/update.log" you can review what it did and ensure the cryptsetup/crypttab are added. After the event you can list the content using "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-<VERSION> | grep crypt" too
[16:48] <eaglgenes101> How do I test that at the very least that my initramfs has cryptsetup
[16:48] <donofrio> at least xfce4 works and even ff 58.0.2 64 bit is rocking on my 18.04 setup....I mean it's upset with locate missing....but it's up..."Yah me!" https://1drv.ms/u/s!AsBlZbBf72iNoL83Kp3d9U1DEN0kog (unneeded onedrive login skip it)
[16:48] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: the first column is the /dev/mapper/ name so I asume yours would be /dev/mapper/root after being unlocked
[16:49] <auronandace> donofrio: 18.04 isn't released yet, support currently in #ubuntu+1
[16:50] <eaglgenes101> Alright, I see cryptsetup in initramfs, let's see if it works out
[16:50] <ducasse> !ubuwin | donofrio
[16:50] <eaglgenes101> Im in
[16:51] <donofrio> argo still cannot get addon ublock installed it returns "[Parent 300, Gecko_IOThread] WARNING: pipe error: Broken pipe: file /build/firefox-9j9NY8/firefox-58.0.2+build1/ipc/chromium/src/chrome/common/ipc_channel_posix.cc, line 709"
[16:51] <donofrio> ;(
[16:51] <eaglgenes101> Now to unload everything I want
[16:51] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: it booted OK this time?
[16:52] <eaglgenes101> Yes, and I'm now setting everything up
[16:52] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: Yay! that was easy :)
[16:52] <donofrio> ducasse, have you tried to talk to ##windows folks about ubuntu folks, first thing they say is goto #ubuntu, and the #ubuntu0on-windows channel has at max 40 folks in it, so doing that bot thing doesn't help when in here there is alwasy over 1.5k people here
[16:53] <eaglgenes101> No problem
[16:53] <eaglgenes101> Will this setup be robust to adjustments of etc fstab?
[16:53] <ducasse> donofrio: doesn't really matter, as wsl is not supported here
[16:53] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: yes. I've been using FDE with both the boot-loader and the OS for about 10 years
[16:54] <donofrio> that is the point it's not supported anywhere......smh
[16:55] <usura> hola
[17:35] <donofrio> if anyone knows how to fix these errors I'm all ears - https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/2960
[17:43] <Exterminador> hello guys. here's the issue. I have 2 streaming radios (on different machines) and both of them have a bot specially made to work as autodj. weird thing is: on VPS 1, with only 2  cores @ 2.40Ghz and 2Gb ram the autodj bot don't crash. on the other one, with 4 cores @ 2.40Ghz and 4Gb ram it's constantly crashing. do you know how can I debug it to see what's happening? any ideas are appreciated
[17:43] <Exterminador> both VPS are running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[17:44] <eaglgenes101> I got dropped back into initramfs
[17:44] <oerheks> donofrio, 18.04 ??? that is not ready/released yet, why oh why keeping asking in here, as you know what channel is support for wsl.. and that issue, really is for the mailing list, as you did now.
[17:44] <eaglgenes101> It accepted my password and did the cryptsetup, but it doesnt seem to know what to do afterwards
[17:44] <TJ-> Exterminador: try pinning the process to only 2 cores on the 4-core ... it could be to do with thread allocation
[17:45] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: has the /dev/mapper/root device been created ?
[17:45] <Exterminador> erm. no idea how to do that tho
[17:45] <eaglgenes101> Yes
[17:46] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: so likely the problem (now) is related to finding the rootfs itself; check "cat /proc/cmdline" to ensure the root= entry is correct
[17:47] <TJ-> Exterminador: this may help https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33994983/assigning-a-cpu-core-to-a-process-linux
[17:47] <Exterminador> TJ-: how can I pin it? I have no idea, honestly, about what you're talking. :x
[17:47] <Exterminador> oops
[17:47] <Exterminador> thanks!
[17:48] <eaglgenes101> After the uuid its ro rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash cryptdevice=UUID=<numeric string>:cryptroot root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot vt.handoff=7
[17:48] <eaglgenes101> I mean alphanumeric
[17:48] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: from earlier, wasn't the entry in /etc/crypttab "root .." not "cryptroot ..." ?
[17:49] <eaglgenes101> Yeah that should be fixed, but right now how do I get initramfs to manually mount what I know is root
[17:49] <eaglgenes101> and then continue on
[17:50] <TJ-> Exterminador: something else to consider is if the CPU topology of the 2 VMs is different, e.g. 1x2 (1 socket, 2 cores) or 2x1 (2 sockets, 1 core each), 1x4 (1 socket, 4 cores), 2x2 (2 sockets, 2 cores each) etc
[17:50] <eaglgenes101> So how do I continue the boot?
[17:51] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: you might be able to /fudge/ it if the kernel is expecting /dev/mapper/cryptroot but you've currently got /dev/mapper/root, by using "dmsetup rename cryptroot root" then press Ctrl+D to restart the init process
[17:52] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: arrghh, got that the wrong way around. "dmsetup rename root cryptroot"
[17:52] <eaglgenes101> I think I'll restart it and modeify the grub entry to point to root instead of cryptroot
[17:53] <Exterminador> TJ-: this is what i get in return of `cat /proc/cpuinfo`: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NZyyRCnXqZ/
[17:53] <eaglgenes101> Okay, now to fix up etc default grub
[17:53] <Exterminador> on the machine with 4 cores
[17:53] <Exterminador> i mean, 4 cpus
[17:54] <TJ-> Exterminador: OK, so that looks like 1x4 vCPU  on a 1x6 host CPU
[17:54] <eaglgenes101> I fixed up the grub entry to go to root
[17:54] <eaglgenes101> Should be good to go for now
[17:55] <Exterminador> so, `taskset -cp 0,1 PID` will work, i suppose?
[17:55] <TJ-> Exterminador: also, note it shows the "siblings: 12" which indicates the host CPU is using hyperthreading to create virtual CPUs - compare that with the 2-core VM see if there's any difference
[17:56] <TJ-> Exterminador: yes, you've got the idea :)
[17:56] <dmtd> Hi all, seeing an issue with volume control ui dialog that keeps popping up randomly. I think it could be Ubuntu related. Any ideas? https://elementaryos.stackexchange.com/questions/14838/accountservice-sound-bug
[17:57] <TJ-> Exterminador: I'm suggesting all this since it could be your application is multi-threaded and suffering some cache problems/stalls due to topology ... it could potentially be related to Meltdown/Spectre mitigations on the host or VM, or both
[17:58] <Exterminador> lemme check my smallest vps
[17:59] <TJ-> Exterminador: I'd suggest checking /var/log/kern.log for any indications of kernel issues at the time the application crashes. Also, look in /var/crash/ see if there's a crash dump captured
[17:59] <TJ-> !crash | Exterminador
[18:01] <Exterminador> oh.. my smallest vps is this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HyxTKVkTRG/ and says `siblings	: 1`
[18:02] <TJ-> Exterminador: right, and it's a totally difference /class/ of CPU - an Intel Atom not a Xeon E5
[18:02] <Exterminador> i've used taskset, and i'll see how it behaves
[18:03] <Exterminador> and iirc, radiobot uses multithreading to check the folder of where musics are placed
[18:07] <Exterminador> thanks for the tips TJ-, i'll read the link you've posted :D
[18:08] <TJ-> Exterminador: if there a /var/crash/ dump file that's the fastest way to get a stracktrace
[18:11] <Exterminador> that's the thing. there's no `/var/crash/`
[18:12] <TJ-> Exterminador: OK, so no crash collector set up
[18:13] <Exterminador> seems so.
[18:13] <TJ-> !info apport | Exterminador: you can install the capture/collector with "apt install apport"
[18:13] <Exterminador> installed
[18:14] <TJ-> Exterminador: check "cat /etc/default/apport" is 'enabled=1'
[18:14] <Exterminador> okay
[18:15] <Exterminador> yes, it is
[18:15] <TJ-> Exterminador: and then that the service is definitely started with "systemctl status apport"
[18:15] <afidegnum> hello all, what best virtualization tool would you recommend? I want to install Win7 on VM to use Dreamweaver and photoshop I have a good memory and HDD size but my concern is the speed
[18:16] <gordonjcp> probably virtualbox, then
[18:16] <gordonjcp> is Dreamweaver still terrible?
[18:16] <afidegnum> I m few claimed Virtualbox is not as performant as they expected
[18:17] <Exterminador> Active: active (exited)
[18:17] <Exterminador> shouldn't be (running)?
[18:17] <gordonjcp> afidegnum: <shrug>
[18:17] <afidegnum> ??
[18:17] <gordonjcp> afidegnum: I've only ever used it on Linux hosts with Linux guests, but it works okay
[18:18] <afidegnum> ok
[18:18] <TJ-> Exterminador: no, that's correct, it sets kernel options when started then exits
[18:18] <gordonjcp> maybe if you absolutely need to use Windows apps, you need to be using Windows
[18:18] <Exterminador> TJ-: okay, thanks. I'll see if the application stales again
[18:18] <Exterminador> if so, I'll check the crash logs
[18:19] <afidegnum> well, my issue is, initially i do have a dual boot, where i switch between the 2Oses but I m reaching to the point where i m reluctant to do so, I need to focus and seemlessly access tools and utilities as needed
[18:23] <TJ-> Exterminador: if you get a /var/crash/ report, then use "apport-unpack /var/crash/<report>/crash /path/to/some/directory/for/extraction" --- then you can use 'gdb' to load the core file and examine the process's stack, using "bt full" to get a full backtrace (may need to install some -dbg packages for the symbols)
[18:24] <Exterminador> TJ-: noted! thanks
[18:27] <Exterminador> but, it's weird how the smallest vps is handling so well and that one isn't
[18:30] <TJ-> Exterminador: yes, which is why I suspect a threading issue with threads being moved to other cores
[18:31] <daw_> yo
[18:32] <tcpdump> Hey guys, everytime I boot my PC I get this weird app that just pops up. I 've went to run, typed msconfig, but don't see the app that keeps popping up anywhere? How do I disable it?
[18:32] <ikonia> msconfig
[18:32] <ikonia> that's a windows command
[18:33] <Exterminador> well, i know radiobot uses threads to scan for new musics (re-analyze the music folder) -> > AutoDJ -> Using 6 threads for scanning...
[18:34] <hfp> Hi, I've been struggling with this for a while: how do I remap caps lock to esc system wide in Ubuntu? I want this mapping everywhere as soon as the system boots.
[18:37] <ikonia> hfp: that seems an unwise thing to do
[18:37] <hfp> ikonia: why is that? I never need caps lock
[18:37] <ikonia> then don't press it
[18:39] <TJ-> hfp: see https://linuxcommando.blogspot.co.uk/2008/03/remap-caps-lock-key-for-virtual-console.html
[18:39] <hfp> so I want it to be esc so that it makes my life easier when using vim?
[18:39] <ikonia> this sounds like a terrible idea
[18:40] <ikonia> the escape key is there to be used, if you map it to odd keys, when you don't use your own keyboard you'll struggle
[18:41] <TJ-> ikonia: it makes it easier to reach if using Escape alot, such as in vim
[18:41] <ikonia> TJ-: I don't doubt, but then you're in trouble when you're on a normally mapped keyboard
[18:42] <TJ-> Depends on how much control over muscle memory you have. No different to switching between keyboards on multiple devices
[18:42] <hfp> ikonia: I think I'll be fine adjusting, thank you
[18:43] <Allanis> ^ I never have an issue switching between dwm shortcuts and Windows when I move display.
[18:43] <akik> you can also use ctrl+c as esc to go from edit mode to command mode
[18:43] <Allanis> It's completely fine, you get accustomed to different workstations.
[18:43] <Allanis> akik: I have been using vim for 10 years and didn't know that.
[18:43] <TJ-> for instance, I' have 5 physical keyboards within reach and every one has a different layout so I do have to reconfigure my brain before typing, especially for meta keys
[18:43] <Allanis> Thanks for the tip. :)
[18:44] <akik> Allanis: this channel is great for tips
[18:44] <Allanis> :)
[18:45] <TJ-> akik: hahaha! yes... except if you're on a netcat link in which case you kill netcat! As I kept doing whilst doing some QEMU VM kernel testing using a serial console piped to a localhost nc session :D
[18:46] <Allanis> Ah. Yeah that would screw things up. especially if it becomes instinct to switch modes with ctrl-c
[18:46]  * Allanis laughs hard at TJ-'s predicament.
[18:46] <TJ-> Allanis: right, I got very annoyed with myself :D
[18:47] <Allanis> Oh I bet.
[18:47] <TJ-> Allanis: always happened just as I was on the cusp of locating a clue, too
[18:47] <Allanis> Though for a casual observer. VERY FUNNY!
[18:50] <hfp> TJ-: I think I found this URL before, and it didn't work. Tried again just now and no luck, caps lock is still caps lock
[18:53] <N3X15> Is there a tool similar to Process Explorer/Process Hacker on Ubuntu yet?  htop is nice but I like having stuff like open handles available at my fingertips
[18:53] <rkifoq> hi
[18:53] <rkifoq> how do I install lsns
[18:53] <rkifoq> there is a cmd
[18:53] <rkifoq> what is the name of hte pkg for that
[18:54] <TJ-> hfp: you're testing in the VT consoles, not under an X session?
[18:54] <hfp> I'm using terminator
[18:55] <Mathisen> rkifoq, util-linux
[18:56] <Mathisen> rkifoq, for the future install apt-file you can search content of packages with that
[18:59] <TJ-> hfp: Terminator is not a VT so the loadkeys method won't work there; loadkeys is for the system console from init onwards. You'll need to use some other mechanism under a terminal emulator
[19:01] <hfp> TJ-: Right... Now I remember, that's why I couldn't get this to work. It's the only thing I miss from OSX, it was super simple to remap keys system-wide. In ubuntu I haven't found how yet
[19:02] <akik> hfp: you can change keybinding in xorg with xmodmap but it's only for the graphical session
[19:02] <TJ-> hfp: well, in a terminal emulator it likely has it's own mapping due to which emulation it is set to do, and the Desktop Environment will likely have a one for the user session, and I guess there's the X-server wide setting too!
[19:03] <akik> hfp: here's an example from this laptop: xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = Escape NoSymbol Escape"; xmodmap -e "keycode 9 = Caps_Lock NoSymbol Caps_Lock"
[19:03] <akik> hfp: you can see all current bindings with: xmodmap -pke
[19:04] <TJ-> akik: I daren't ask but ... and how is that done with a Wayland compositor ?
[19:05] <akik> TJ-: no idea
[19:05] <akik> i'm planning on not using wayland if possible
[19:06] <TJ-> :D
[19:06] <akik> and it looks good that 18.04 keeps xorg as default
[19:08] <FurretUber> Hi, is there a specific channel to ask about Ubuntu 18.04? There is one thing I'm wondering if it's a bug or not
[19:08] <hfp> akik: I had tried that too, and in vim caps lock is still caps lock
[19:09] <akik> hfp: check "xmodmap -pke" maybe the codes are different in your machine
[19:09] <kostkon> FurretUber, #ubuntu+1
[19:09] <FurretUber> Thank you
[19:10] <akik> hfp: you're right. i tested only the konsole+bash combination
[19:10] <hfp> akik: they're the same, 66 is caps lock in the list and 9 is escape
[19:11] <Itorius> Hi, does anyone use rofi?
[19:11] <akik> hfp: it seems to work in the same terminal only :P
[19:11] <hfp> oh wait my laptop is docked and I'm using an external keyboard; does it make a difference?
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Itorius
[19:12] <hfp> akik: well I set it in my terminal and then at the same prompt I open vim.
[19:12] <akik> hfp: now it works for the new terminal also. it should change it in the xorg session wholly
[19:14] <aluno> oi
[19:14] <Itorius> Oh, sorry, my bad! When I installed rofi on ubuntu 17.10(gnome) the auto shortcut for opening rofi menu is set to "shift+s" and I want to remove it. I have installed rofi on antergos(gnome) aswell with no problem. Have anyone encounterd this before?
[19:19] <akik> hfp: muscle memory is slow to change :)
[19:24] <tickelmatoes> Does anyone know if it is possible to just shift my whole ubuntu os onto a different hdd
[19:34] <Handover901> Hey, my Ubuntu GUI keeps crashing all the time! It crashes after a specific amount of time. It still works and I can SSH into it. Here is the logs before I rebooted the server (which temp. solves the problem): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y48QFPBYM4/ - Well its a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS
[19:41] <root__> heyo can i get some help
[19:41] <root__> im on the live usb now
[19:41] <root__> and i messed up
[19:41] <root__> i get grub_rescue when i boot
[19:41] <root__> so i set my partitions and boot, click on ubuntu and get a efi error
[19:47] <Handover901> Hey, my Ubuntu GUI keeps crashing all the time! It crashes after a specific amount of time. It still works and I can SSH into it. Here is the logs before I rebooted the server (which temp. solves the problem): https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Y48QFPBYM4/ - Well its a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop LTS
[19:56] <rkifoq> Mathisen: apt-file search lsns ; shows wrong things
[19:56] <rkifoq> and util-linux doesn't have lsns
[19:56] <rkifoq> command not found errror
[19:58] <Athonathonathon> I'm having issues suspending my laptop. It's a Dell XPS on 4.13.0-32-generic kernel
[20:06] <Darkinha> Hallo.
[20:07] <Darkinha> I have recently installed ubuntu 17.10, and I am having some problems with DNS.
[20:07] <Darkinha> I think it is something to do with resolv.conf.
[20:07] <Darkinha> Anyone knows anything about it?
[20:07] <Darkinha> Thank you, by the way.
[20:09] <TJ-> Athonathonathon: what kind of issue?
[20:10] <boblamont> Anyone have an opinion on the best way to go through a drive with lots of mp3s (and probably some flacs, oggs and possibly a few other formats), read the tags, and get them written to a csv I can then export into a spreadsheet?
[20:13] <boblamont> I think exiftool does it?
[20:14] <JimBunbtu> boblamont, confirmed
[20:15] <JimBunbtu> exiftool also has the native function where it can write to a csv file
[20:15] <boblamont> JimBuntu:  it looked like what I wanted, but I wasn't sure, thanks!
[20:17] <JimBunbtu> boblamont, yw
[20:22] <dserodio> I'm trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds but gpg fails when downloading the GPG key (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/StsJ5xMpKz/) and I can't find the key by manually searching on pgp.mit.edu web UI
[20:25] <Napoleon> hi all anybody knows anything about modify /etc/sudoers using visudo? in particluar when 2 rules contrast each other wich one take precedence?
[20:26] <ioria> Napoleon, that file is sequential , afaik
[20:26] <Lope> I'm running the ubuntu installer. I already have LVM on sda4, I want to create a logical volume in the LVM but the "Something else" menu doesn't offer that to me?
[20:28] <Napoleon> Ioria, ah ok then i just need to rewrite the file in a different way. i will test it . thanks
[20:28] <ioria> ok
[20:28] <TJ-> dserodio: switch to hkp: protocol
[20:29] <dserodio> TJ-: thanks, this works. Is this a known issue? Should I file a bug?
[20:29] <TJ-> dserodio: hkps is effectively https, and many server(s) don't support it
[20:31] <Napoleon> ioria, it's not possible,  the part i modified is located before the default one. and visudo i not giving me any syntax error
[20:33] <dserodio> TJ-: makes sense, does hpks use port 443 too? I can't find it on /etc/services
[20:34] <TJ-> dserodio: Yes, hkps uses 443 so it can navigate restrictive firewalls
[20:36] <JimBunbtu> Napoleon, any chance you have directives in /etc/sudoers.d ?
[20:37] <ioria> Napoleon, Where there are conflicting values, the last match is used
[20:37] <Napoleon> JimBunbtu, sudoers.d is empty
[20:40] <Napoleon> ioria, these are the lines: User_Alias P_USERS = jwhite, dholey; P_USERS ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: Commands; %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[20:41] <Napoleon> ioria, jwhite is members of system group %admin
[20:42] <JPSman> clear
[20:43] <JPSman> ha, trying to clear the irc channel :)
[20:43] <JPSman> HI!  I have an old nexus 7 and I'd like to install Ubuntu on it
[20:43] <JPSman> can I install 16.04 on it?
[20:46] <Napoleon> ioria, i also tried to assign jwhite the possibility to not type sudo password for any commands as a test, but the system is still promting for password. that's why i thought there a precedence rulle somehow
[20:46] <akik> Napoleon: there's a precendence rule
[20:46] <JimBunbtu> Napoleon, forgive me if this sounds silly... you restarted the sudo service, right?
[20:46] <oerlaptop> JPSman, maybe ubuntu-touch
[20:47] <oerlaptop> !phone
[20:47] <boblamont> JimBuntu, I'm running into an issue with exiftool. I want to start from the top of the drive, but I can't get it to let me. I can do a directory by doing exiftool -csv -r \Directory > file.csv but I can't get it to start at the top (I tried specifying the name of the drive , omitting the directory name and moving up to the media directory and trying the drive name from there)
[20:47] <JPSman> oerlaptop, I'm looking into it now
[20:47] <Napoleon> Jimbumbtu, yes ;)
[20:47] <akik> Napoleon: man sudoers, search for "When multiple entries match"
[20:48] <JimBunbtu> boblamont, How about you go into some other directory, one lower than '/' and try 'xiftool -csv -r ../ >file.csv'
[20:48] <Napoleon> akik, thanks
[20:48] <oerlaptop> brb
[20:49] <DiecastMessiah> yeah i think you can JPSman seem the video is supported anyway
[20:49] <JimBunbtu> boblamont, it may also be because you are running into a permission issue... you may want to write to ~/file.csv
[20:49] <JPSman> its an old Nexus 7 2012 - the list specifically says 2013 is supported, but doesn't mention 2012
[20:50] <DiecastMessiah> k well best to check with the ubuntu touch than . but if 16.04 maybe 14.04 will be
[20:51] <DiecastMessiah> if 16.04 doesn't
[20:51] <boblamont> JimBuntu, it wouldn't go for the .. trick, but it appears to be working with the ~/file.csv
[20:51] <boblamont> thanks again
[20:52] <JimBunbtu> yw
[20:54] <DiecastMessiah> JPSman: i was looking at the 2012 one for the video info and looked around and the Nvidia Tegra 3 is supported .. but i am newbie and i never played around with tablets
[20:58] <Napoleon> akik,ioria, they're applied in order. then i need the review all the aliases i created thanks
[20:59] <oerheks> JPSman, then i guess it will not :-(
[20:59] <JPSman> :-(
[20:59] <JPSman> What can I do with this Nexus 7 2012 then?
[20:59] <JPSman> its running new android like crap
[21:00] <sere> JPSman: doesnt ubuntu touch support that
[21:00] <JPSman> Ubuntu touch definitely supports nexus 7 2013
[21:02] <DiecastMessiah> yeah info page for 2012 can upgrade to 5.1.1 if higher thats why
[21:03] <SemiNus> hi
[21:03] <SemiNus> Question:  I placed a file named "uname" in /usr/local/bin with the content:
[21:03] <SemiNus> echo "4.1.32-042stab127.2"
[21:04] <SemiNus> why does "uname -r" still show the real kernel version?
[21:04] <TJ-> SemiNus: missing the shebang?
[21:04] <TJ-> SemiNus: not set as executable?
[21:04] <SemiNus> TJ-, the shebang should not be required
[21:04] <SemiNus> executable, yes
[21:04] <SemiNus> shebang added
[21:04] <SemiNus> still the same
[21:05] <SemiNus> #!/bin/bash
[21:05] <SemiNus> echo "4.1.32-042stab127.2"
[21:05] <TJ-> SemiNus: presumably you're testing in the same (bash) shell as you ran the real uname in, so bash has hashed the path. "hash -r" then try again
[21:05] <SemiNus> wow!!!
[21:05] <SemiNus> you are a genius!!!!
[21:05] <SemiNus> thank you sooooo much!!
[21:06] <TJ-> SemiNus: if you'd tried from another shell you'd have been even more confused as to how one ran the real command and one ran yours :D
[21:06] <SemiNus> yes! indeed!
[21:06] <SemiNus> TJ-, can I please tell you my whole problem?
[21:06] <lena> have problem updating i386 - getting error wrong SHA256 of http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-security/main/binary-i386/by-hash/SHA256/c5d7d9dd4c5d91352cd1f263ed53760e89474f8dc056a2c9517e53ff44507796
[21:06] <SemiNus> maybe you have an idea
[21:07] <TJ-> SemiNus: go for it :)
[21:07] <SemiNus> because "uname -r" did not do the trick as I just had to find out
[21:07] <SemiNus> thank you!
[21:07] <SemiNus> so, there is this virtual server I _have_to_ work on.  The kernel version is 2.6  => a more than 8 yrs old kernel!!
[21:07] <SemiNus> however, I am stuck on it
[21:08] <SemiNus> the goal is, to install "wekan" (a kanban board)
[21:08] <SemiNus> there are several ways:
[21:08] <SemiNus> 1) docker (does not work, because it's a vserver)
[21:08] <SemiNus> 2) snap (does not work, because it's a vserver)
[21:08] <SemiNus> 3) sandstorm (does not work, because the kernel version has to be 3.10 or higher)
[21:08] <TJ-> SemiNus: snap would work.. but the kernel 2.6 is too old to support the required kernel features (control groups, namespaces)
[21:08] <SemiNus> 3) sandstorm (does not work, because the kernel version has to be 3.10 or higher)
[21:08] <SemiNus> sorry
[21:09] <SemiNus> 4) docker (does not work, because the kernel version has to be 3.2 or higher)
[21:09] <SemiNus> 3) was posted twice
[21:09] <seshu> I have one ARM v8 board. Any advice on how to bring up the board with ubuntu?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: 2.6 is old enough to run on fairly modest hardware
[21:09] <SemiNus> TJ-, I hate this vserver soooo much
[21:10] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: if you were anywhere near Glasgow I'd give you a selection of old P4 and Core 2 servers to try it on
[21:10] <gordonjcp> mostly to get them out of my kitchen
[21:10] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, I've already installed wekan on my personal linux computer that I am currently on
[21:10] <TJ-> SemiNus: If it's a virtual server, why not set up a 2nd up-to-date VM with a recent kernel, deploy wekan there, then use the 2.6 OS vserver to configure an apache/nginx proxy to the wekan instance on the 'modern' VM ?
[21:11] <SemiNus> TJ-, because the provider of the client only has these old vservers
[21:11] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: so, why do you need to install this ancient VM?
[21:11] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, it's a vserver the setup from new
[21:11] <SemiNus> that's their "tested and approved kernel" how they put it in our phone call
[21:11] <TJ-> SemiNus: right, but you can deploy apache/nginx in them yes? if so, they can have a proxy configured to contact another networked server running wekan
[21:11] <SemiNus> to me that's just a lame excuse
[21:12] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: sounds like you need another VM provider
[21:12] <SemiNus> TJ-, what would that help?
[21:12] <SemiNus> there is only this one vserver available of the client
[21:12] <TJ-> SemiNus: well presumably you want access to wekan for clients connecting the the 2.6 vserver host? So vserver then proxies the wekan stuff to a OS install that can run it
[21:13] <SemiNus> like, my personal computer that could go offline any time and change its IP ?
[21:13] <TJ-> SemiNus: when you say 'the client' do you mean a company/person, /using/ this 2.6 vserver ?
[21:13] <SemiNus> yes
[21:13] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: what do you mean "there is only this one vserver available of the client"?
[21:13] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: sorry, English isn't my first language, I'm not really parsing that
[21:14] <TJ-> SemiNus: and are they running this 2.6 vserver on their own premises, or via a 'cloud' hosting service/
[21:14] <SemiNus> I tried to explain them that the kernel is too old, but they are like "we rented this one last week, it's new... and if you are as good as you say, you will be able to work with this"  and "we never had an issue"
[21:14] <SemiNus> TJ-, the latter
[21:14] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, same, English is my 5th language
[21:14] <SemiNus> ^.^
[21:14] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: so the company you work for has bought a VM, and it has an obsolete kernel
[21:14] <TJ-> SemiNus: idea! create a chroot on the vserver, install latest Ubuntu in that, with wekan ?
[21:15] <gordonjcp> TJ-: cunning
[21:15] <SemiNus> TJ-, I am pretty sure that can't work, can it?
[21:15] <SemiNus> a vserver within a vserver with a different kernel?!
[21:15] <oerheks> seshu, as 12.04 is EOL, ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM)  ubuntu core ? https://www.ubuntu.com/core
[21:15] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, yes
[21:15] <TJ-> SemiNus: that reduces your customisation to setting up a service start script for the chroot that contains "ubuntu-minimal" + "apache" + "wekan"
[21:16] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: I think at this point you need to sit down with them and explain why what they have isn't going to work
[21:16] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: point out that 12.04 is long, long out of support
[21:16] <SemiNus> I am very new at this company
[21:16] <SemiNus> I tried to explain it, however they think I am not capable of the job
[21:16] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, 16.04
[21:16] <TJ-> SemiNus: no, a chroot isn't a vserver, it's just a different root file-system. Provided what you install in the chroot doesn't require cgroups/namespaces support, chroot will work fine
[21:17] <seshu> oerheks, thanks, yes Ubuntu core too will do. Let me check the URLs you shared.
[21:17] <TJ-> SemiNus: Call us in as 'consultants' :D
[21:17] <SemiNus> can one buy you?
[21:17] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: oh, is 16.04 using kernel 2.6?  That doesn't sound right
[21:17] <SemiNus> gordonjcp, at least that's the info the server gives me
[21:18] <SemiNus> I will try to re-write the sandstorm-install script
[21:18] <SemiNus> maybe I can get it to ignore the kernel version
[21:18] <oerlaptop> 2.6 .. is that openVZ?
[21:19] <oerlaptop> that is correct, i guess
[21:19] <gordonjcp> SemiNus: I'm running 16.04.3 on gjcp.net, it claims to be 3.14.32 but that is some weirdass OVH build of 16.04
[21:19] <TJ-> SemiNus: you just did :) Set up a chroot on your own PC, use debootstrap to install a minimal install, add apache/nginx/wekan whatever, prove it works. We can help you with any issues, then you could just tar it up and drop it into the vserver and confirm it works there
[21:20] <SemiNus> oerlaptop, yes
[21:20] <SemiNus> TJ-, I need to read more about this
[21:21] <SemiNus> TJ-, I will need an hour or so to read before I do it
[21:21] <SemiNus> thank you for your help! @TJ- @oerlaptop @gordonjcp
[21:21] <TJ-> SemiNus: debootstrap/install method here https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/apds04.html
[21:22] <TJ-> SemiNus: ignore the "powerpc" that doesn't affect the method
[21:22] <SemiNus> TJ-, thank you!
[21:23] <TJ-> SemiNus: it's basically "mkdir /target" "debootstrap --arch i386 xenial http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"
[21:23] <SemiNus> TJ-, I am really scared to mess up
[21:23] <TJ-> SemiNus: I'm assuming the vserver is using i386 32-bit architecture
[21:24] <SemiNus> I am a web-guy, not a server admin
[21:24] <TJ-> SemiNus: try it locally; you can easily delete the directory and retry
[21:24] <SemiNus> linux has been my operating system for 15 years, however, I am _not_ a server admin
[21:24] <TJ-> SemiNus: I've spent the last 3 days hacking on HTML5/CSS3/JS bugs - if I can do that, you can do this :p
[21:25] <SemiNus> TJ-, hey, ask me!
[21:25] <SemiNus> TJ-, I am a web guy!
[21:26] <TJ-> SemiNus: let's test you :p Why in a grid-template 4xx with 150x150px cells does a <canvas> element take up two cells wide (300px) rather than obey it's parent element's size? :D
[21:26] <TJ-> oops, 4x4
[21:27] <SemiNus> hold on, need to re-read it a couple of times
[21:27] <SemiNus> do you have a real-life test case?
[21:29] <SemiNus> TJ-, did you give the parent a width and a height?
[21:29] <SemiNus> and: did you change the position of the parent?
[21:30] <SemiNus> e.g. from static (which is default) to for example "relative" (which causes the parent to behave like static but be not static)
[21:30] <SemiNus> then you could size the canvas element inside
[21:30] <SemiNus> but I'd need to see it
[21:30] <TJ-> SemiNus: I solved it :) O was just testing you to show you /can/ manage chroot if I can do that! The answer is 2-fold: 1) <canvas> doesn't support CCS stylesheets so .style.{width,height} don't affect it and 2) <canvas> (and <svg>) elements default in chromium and FF to 300x150px (which just happened to be the same size as my test-case grid cells, doh
[21:30] <TJ-> SemiNus: anyhow, back on-topic ... chroot :)
[21:31] <Exterminador> TJ-: can you take a look at this and see if makes any sense to you? i have the bot running with pm2 and these errors were there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mwkq33vMg9/
[21:32] <SemiNus> TJ-, you can definitely set width and height for a canvas element
[21:32] <SemiNus> hold on
[21:32] <SemiNus> I try that now
[21:32] <TJ-> SemiNus: for the code, see the test-suite I wrote here https://github.com/iam-TJ/FireFoxInvertColors/tree/test-suite/test (this works due to the <script> in index.html resizing canvas to parent element's client{Width,Height}
[21:33] <TJ-> Exterminador: nice catch. next step is to install the debug symbols for the libraries in the stack-trace, which looks like glibc
[21:35] <SemiNus> TJ-, brb - testing something
[21:35] <TJ-> Exterminador: I'd think "sudo apt install libc6-dbg"
[21:36] <TJ-> Exterminador: then you should be able to use gdb with the crash's core file to view the backtrace with function names and argument values
[21:37] <TJ-> Exterminador: although not knowing about autoDJ, I'd suspect this "./tmp/plugin01.so" - whatever it is
[21:38] <SemiNus> TJ-, I can't see the problem.
[21:39] <SemiNus> TJ-, say, this is the HTML code:  <div><canvas></canvas></div>
[21:39] <SemiNus> and this is the CSS code:
[21:39] <SemiNus> div { width:200px; height:200px; background:#ffcc00; }
[21:39] <SemiNus> canvas { background-color:#ff0000; width:100%; height:100%; }
[21:40] <SemiNus> the canvas will have the same size as its parent - even without changing the parent's text flow (otherwise I would have used position:relative; on the parent and a position:absolute; with top:0; left:0; right:0; bottom:0; on the child
[21:40] <Exterminador> TJ-: the weird is that i dnt have a /var/crash/ log
[21:40] <TJ-> SemiNus: as I said, I fixed it. if you run my index.html you'll see it reports the canvas1 size as 300x150 until I reset it.
[21:40] <TJ-> Exterminador: really, where did you get that crash log from?
[21:41] <Exterminador> pm2 error log
[21:41] <TJ-> Exterminador: oh, so pm2 took precendence in attaching to the kernel's crash handler
[21:41] <Exterminador> perhaps
[21:42] <Exterminador> i'll try to run the bot without pm2
[21:50] <Exterminador> TJ-: running the bot out of pm2. just to see if it crashes and if the problem is from the bot itself or from the machine
[21:54] <SemiNus> TJ-, I am having a really hard time understanding the chroot-thingy
[21:56] <TJ-> SemiNus: what do you need to know? It's effectively a completely separate OS-install in some directory, which, once you "chroot /target/", looks to all the tools there like the whole world, separate from the host OS.
[21:57] <SemiNus> how would one connect to apache within the chroot then?
[21:57] <SemiNus> there is also an apache installed outside the chroot
[21:57] <TJ-> SemiNus: so, you can install a later OS version in it and they'll run fine, with no dependency on the host OS libraries.
[21:58] <TJ-> SemiNus: it'd listen on port 80/443 or some other port (it shared the network interfaces of the host - host>eth0 is chroot>eth0)
[21:58] <SemiNus> TJ-, would it be asked for too much if I asked you for more guidance during the process?
[21:59] <TJ-> SemiNus: if the host already has a web server on 80/443, you could configure that to do proxy to the chroot apache which might only be on, say, localhost:8080 or whatever
[21:59] <SemiNus> for example, the page you pointed me to wants me to create partitions (in a running os?)
[21:59] <TJ-> SemiNus: give me 20 minutes I should be able to throw together a script to automate it
[22:00] <SemiNus> omg that's too nice from you!
[22:00] <TJ-> SemiNus: right - you'd ignore all the partitioning stuff... the part you need is where it starts talking about using debootstrap only
[22:00] <SemiNus> thank you so much!
[22:00] <SemiNus> okay so I skip the partitioning, that releases a lot of weight from my shoulders
[22:00] <TJ-> SemiNus: I already have script for this, I just need to adjust them. I use it alot
[22:00] <SemiNus> that confused me the most
[22:03] <TJ-> SemiNus: one thing I need to know, which OS/version is on the vserver, and which version of apache (assuming it has apache) ?
[22:03] <SemiNus> I will tell you in a moment
[22:04] <SemiNus> according to the provider's information it's Ubuntu 16.04.2
[22:04] <SemiNus> now I am logging in and verifying it in the shell
[22:05] <SemiNus> kernel is: 2.6.32-042stab127.2
[22:05] <SemiNus> according to the "sources.list" it's "xenial"
[22:06] <SemiNus> Server version: Apache/2.4.18 (Ubuntu)
[22:06] <TJ-> SemiNus: Great, so you just need a more recent version with libraries that support wekan, is that correct?
[22:06] <SemiNus> yes, it's all about the kernel
[22:06] <SemiNus> I installed wekan locally using "snap" and it worked like a charm
[22:07] <SemiNus> so if you could make "snap" work that would be amazing
[22:07] <Exterminador> well, bot crashed but doesn't dump a crash log. so i start assuming that the bot is messed up
[22:10] <TJ-> SemiNus: I'm not sure if you're aware, but you do /not/ need to use docker/snap/lxd for a wekan install, it's just packaged that way to make it easy for '1-click' installations because it has many moving parts (layers)
[22:10] <SemiNus> TJ-, yes I know,  but I also know that installing it without snappy was a real nightmare for me, whereas the installation using snap was a breeze
[22:12] <TJ-> SemiNus: I wish I'd written a script for when I installed wekan on a RasPi :)
[22:13] <SemiNus> omg you know wekan?!
[22:13] <SemiNus> :))
[22:13] <TJ-> SemiNus: so you don't even need an apache install; you just need the vserver apache to proxy in front of the nodejs/wekan server
[22:13] <SemiNus> yes, wekan has its own server
[22:14] <SemiNus> usually on port 3000 but this can be changed
[22:16] <TJ-> SemiNus: right, that's how I have it. I used the .deb packages from https://github.com/soohwa/apt so it was just an "apt install" job + configuring apache proxying. How about doing that rather than creating an entire chroot, which now I know more of what you need, would make more sense
[22:17] <SemiNus> TJ-, tried that yesterday - the installation goes through without(!) any errors
[22:17] <TJ-> Then I did a cross-build for some libraries to fix some ARM specific bugs on the RasPi (which you don't need of course)
[22:17] <SemiNus> but there is no board on board 3000
[22:18] <SemiNus> port 3000
[22:18] <TJ-> SemiNus: Hmmm. Good to know you had that. I'll try that route first because if I hit the same issue I'm sure I can find/fix any bugs quicker than a source install :)
[22:19] <SemiNus> TJ-, I can also do it again
[22:19] <SemiNus> there was something in the syslog, but I cannot recall it now
[22:19] <SemiNus> when I looked it up online I couldn't figure out what the error was about
[22:20] <SemiNus> so, just that you know, I've put in 20+ hours in solving this issue
[22:20] <SemiNus> so I am not lazy
[22:20] <TJ-> SemiNus: right, so we'd just need to 'sync' what we're doing until you have a working install ... see... we've reduced the challenge by about 80% already :)
[22:20] <Exterminador> well, bot crashed but still no /var/crash log. so I assume something is very very wrong with that machine. I have the other bot running already for more than 24h without any issues. I'll rest my case. TJ-, thanks anyway for all the help and tips. I guess I'll talk to the provider to see if they can solve anything
[22:20] <TJ-> Exterminador: yes, sounds like apport kernel crash hook has been taken over by something else
[22:25] <Exterminador> i assume also that something is messed up with threading over there. I can't think in anything for the moment. the same thing you've talked earlier.
[22:29] <adm-sistema> ds
[22:30] <bencc> is it ok to run this? "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf"
[22:30] <bencc> or can it break something?
[22:31] <ioc_> bencc, will be fixed by the next apt-get update
[22:32] <Sterist> anyone know of a program with GUI that can block URLs, similar to "charles" on Windows
[22:32] <bencc> ioc_: thanks
[22:34] <TJ-> Sterist: you'd need some form of HTTP proxy
[22:35] <Sterist> oh hello again tj :)
[22:35] <Sterist> yes http proxy is what I'm after
[22:37] <SemiNus> TJ-, I installed wekan according to https://github.com/soohwa/apt
[22:37] <SemiNus> TJ-, it's not running (like yesterday when I tried it)
[22:39] <Sterist> disregard, I'm going to take my chances without proxy. hassle vs benefit analysis test says mehhh
[22:39] <xxorbe> hy
[22:40] <xxorbe> french ??
[22:40] <TJ-> SemiNus: I'm at the same point, just started investigating
[22:52] <TJ-> SemiNus: OK, it's pretty simple! When the wekan service starts it doesn't wait for mongodb to get going, so fails to connect (this can be seen in /var/log/wekan/wekan-oft-0.log) so simply restart the service "sudo systemctl restart wekan-oft-0" and it should run. You can check both mongodb and nodejs are listening on ports 27017 and 3000 with "sudo ss -tnlp"
[22:53] <SemiNus> TJ-, that does not work - tried it already
[22:53] <TJ-> SemiNus: OK, you "sudo pastebinit /var/log/wekan/wekan-oft-0.log" ?
[22:53] <TJ-> ^can^
[22:54] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/6eog/raw
[22:54] <TJ-> SemiNus: that looks like it /is/ working. Show me "pastebinit <( sudo ss -tnlp )"
[22:55] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/HPH6/raw
[22:56] <TJ-> SemiNus: there, it /is/ working! listening on port 3000, with mongodb on 27017
[22:56] <SemiNus> but why can't I see it then?
[22:56] <SemiNus> when I open it in chrome it says: "This site canâ€™t be reached"
[22:57] <SemiNus> http://***.***.**.**:3000/ is unreachable.
[22:57] <oerlaptop> sudo ufw allow 3000/tcp perhaps?
[22:58] <SemiNus> oerlaptop, thank you!
[22:58] <oerlaptop> :-)
[22:58] <SemiNus> TJ-, is it OK for you if I tried what oerlaptop said?
[22:58] <SemiNus> oerlaptop, sorry for asking TJ-, but I don't want to interfere with his ideas
[22:59] <akem> Hey, in Ubuntu 17 i want to open .exe files with Wine automaticly, but when i click "open with" i don't have Wine in the applications choices though wine is installed, any help with this?
[22:59] <oerlaptop> np, check it with tj .. that is, if you enabled ufw
[23:00] <tomcres> akem try installing q4wine
[23:01] <SemiNus> TJ-, I risk and try what oerlaptop said
[23:02] <Superman> Hello! I'm running LightIRC on Ubuntu. I installed the flash policy daemon, it's running, I checkd the logs. But still on the web chat I get the error to install flash policy daemon. What should I do ?
[23:02] <SemiNus> oerlaptop, sudo: ufw: command not found
[23:03] <TJ-> SemiNus: right, because you've not opened port 3000 in the vserver's firewall
[23:04] <TJ-> SemiNus: you want it to proxy via the existing apache server's web-site don't you? In which case you need this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YrwstxcZcW/
[23:04] <SemiNus> I did not even know there was a firewall in place?
[23:04] <TJ-> SemiNus: "sudo iptables-save" will list the rules
[23:04] <akem> tomcres, Thank you, it worked :)
[23:06] <SemiNus> Not Found
[23:06] <SemiNus> The requested URL /wekan was not found on this server.
[23:06] <SemiNus> yes, I restarted apache!
[23:07] <TJ-> SemiNus: just in case, add a closing / to the URL /wekan and /wekan/ can be seen as different files/paths
[23:08] <SemiNus> same problem
[23:08] <TJ-> SemiNus: let me test here :)
[23:08] <SemiNus> can we try to open the port 3000 ?
[23:08] <SemiNus> in the firewall?
[23:08] <SemiNus> sudo iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 3000 -j ACCEPT
[23:08] <SemiNus> would you mind if I ran this?
[23:09] <TJ-> SemiNus: sure, it's up to you! But eventually you want it integrated into the existing web-site / domain don't you?
[23:09] <SemiNus> would be amazing if that worked, yes
[23:09] <SemiNus> I would have used a <frameset> lol ;o)
[23:09]  * SemiNus hides an runs
[23:10] <TJ-> SemiNus: I use the ProxyPass for several services on my iam.tj server, I just need to test it locally with the wekan I just installed
[23:10] <SemiNus> OMG
[23:10] <SemiNus> it runs!!!!!
[23:10] <SemiNus> on port 3000 !!!!
[23:10] <SemiNus> the only problem was that port 3000 was not open!
[23:10] <TJ-> SemiNus: and an iframe might break, since the clients connecting might be blocked by their firewall from accessing destination port 3000
[23:11] <SemiNus> TJ-, I am soooooooooo excited now!
[23:11] <SemiNus> thank you thank you thank you!!!! :)
[23:11] <TJ-> SemiNus: so, if you have problems after a service start, try a simple restart in case you're hit by the slow mongodb startup issue
[23:11] <TJ-> SemiNus: shall we solve the ProxyPass now? then you're totally sorted
[23:12] <SemiNus> yes sure if that's possible!!
[23:12] <SemiNus> omg it runs !!
[23:12] <SemiNus> :))
[23:14] <SemiNus> I am clicking around happily in wekan now :)
[23:15] <SemiNus> that's so friggin' cool :)
[23:16] <TJ-> SemiNus: OK, the issue is only, I think, your apache2 doesn't have the modules enabled. Can you show me "pastebinit <( ls /etc/apache2/mods-{available,enabled/} )"
[23:17] <TJ-> SemiNus: so we just need to 1) ensure the modules are there, and then 2) enable them and 3) restart apache2
[23:17] <SemiNus> TJ-, how come you are so good in ...everything?!
[23:18] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/sxa0/raw
[23:19] <Bashing-om> SemiNus: TJ- takes the time to read and understand the code :)
[23:19] <TJ-> SemiNus: by breaking things very frequently for 30 years+ :D
[23:19] <Ghostbowl> hi
[23:20] <Ghostbowl> can somebody help me out I'm trying to install nheqminer on ubuntu
[23:20] <Ghostbowl> and there
[23:20] <Ghostbowl> is some stuff I don't understand
[23:20] <Mathisen> why you not getting rich ?
[23:20] <SemiNus> I am a real douchebag... I forgot to write down the admin password I set up for wekan
[23:21] <Bashing-om> !nheqminer xenial
[23:21] <Ghostbowl> ?
[23:21] <Ghostbowl> what do you mean?
[23:22] <Bashing-om> !info nheqminer xenial | Ghostbowl
[23:22] <Ghostbowl> I don't know what xenial is
[23:22] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, is that some sort of coin miner software
[23:22] <Ghostbowl> yes
[23:22] <Ghostbowl> https://github.com/etherchain-org/nheqminer
[23:22] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, installed from where
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Ghostbowl: We need more info .. xenial is the 16.04 release .
[23:23] <Ghostbowl> yes I'm on xenial
[23:23] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, so it's an outside repo non supported package
[23:23] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, so contact the makers
[23:23] <Ghostbowl> I don't know who they are
[23:24] <Ghostbowl> I just don't understand a couple of commands
[23:24] <Ghostbowl> I want to know why this doesn't work cd nheqminer/Linux_cmake/nheqminer_cuda_tromp && cmake . && make -j $(nproc)
[23:24] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, check their software download channel or website, we wont know about it here
[23:24] <Ghostbowl> I just need help installing some software, I'm not asking specific questions about the software
[23:25] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, what coin is that supposed to mine
[23:25] <Ghostbowl> I'm using it for equihash
[23:26] <Mathisen> Ghostbowl, atleast say what error you get when running the command
[23:26] <Ghostbowl> -bash: cd: nheqminer/Linux_cmake/nheqminer_cuda_tromp: No such file or directory
[23:26] <Mathisen> that kinda says it all
[23:26] <TJ-> SemiNus: right, I've still got issues here after enabling the proxy, but it could be due to the way wekan handles the proxy. For now, do "sudo a2enmod proxy; sudo a2enmod proxy_http; sudo apache2ctl restart" (that'll load the new modules, at which point the proxy to http://www.example.com/wekan/ will respond *BUT* will likely not be a correct page)
[23:27] <Mathisen> Ghostbowl, go to the right directory
[23:27] <Ghostbowl> I'm in the directoty nheqminer
[23:28] <Ghostbowl> should I go to the home directory?
[23:28] <Mathisen> Ghostbowl, cd Linux_cmake/nheqminer_cuda_tromp && cmake . && make -j $(nproc)
[23:29] <Ghostbowl> ok that worked
[23:29] <SemiNus> TJ-, https://dpaste.de/y45L/raw
[23:29] <SemiNus> /wekan/ is still not available
[23:30] <SemiNus> apache has been restarted
[23:30] <TJ-> SemiNus: OK... let me get it working fully here first... I was missing websocket support
[23:31] <SemiNus> thank you!
[23:34] <smacktalk> hello?
[23:34] <SemiNus> hello smacktalk
[23:34] <Mathisen> hello smacktalk
[23:35] <smacktalk> hi :)
[23:35] <smacktalk> just testing
[23:35] <Ghostbowl> how do I install boost?
[23:35] <smacktalk> when I asked a question in ##linux, I got the msg back that I couldn't send to the channel
[23:35] <Ghostbowl> I did wget on the tar file
[23:35] <Ghostbowl> but I don't know where to go from there
[23:36] <Mathisen> smacktalk, you need to register your nick to talk there, /msg nickserv register
[23:36] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, you got the software installed on ubuntu?
[23:37] <TJ-> SemiNus: ok, another module to enable: "sudo a2enmod proxy_wstunnel" ... there's a change to the vhost ProxyPass entries to come but i've not figured it out correctly for the websocket yet :)
[23:37] <Ghostbowl> yeah I installed the miner
[23:37] <Ghostbowl> but it needs boost to run
[23:37] <Ghostbowl> I'm not sure how to do that
[23:37] <SemiNus> smacktalk, kindly check if "libboost-all-dev" is what you want
[23:37] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, so check the read me documents and/or online help for how to use it
[23:38] <SemiNus> TJ-, doing it now
[23:38] <SemiNus> TJ-, same... 404 :)
[23:38] <Ghostbowl> I'm asking for help because I don't understand the stuff online bazhang
[23:38] <Ghostbowl> http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_61_0/more/getting_started/unix-variants.html
[23:39] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, thats why you need to read their help pages
[23:39] <Ghostbowl> I'm reading this right now and it's like chinese to me
[23:39] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, kindly check if "libboost-all-dev" is what you want
[23:39] <bazhang> Ghostbowl, we wont know about that, and it's not an ubuntu support issue
[23:39] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, I wrote that to smacktalk by a mistake before
[23:40] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, apt show libboost-all-dev
[23:40] <Ghostbowl> what's that?
[23:41] <SemiNus> didn't you want to install boost?
[23:41] <Ghostbowl> yes
 how do I install boost?
[23:41] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: you may have to accept that there are certain things that at this stage in your experience are beyond your ability
[23:41] <Ghostbowl> but what did I just type?
[23:41] <Mathisen> just tell him how to install with apt....
[23:41] <smacktalk> my nick is registered
[23:41] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, if "libboost-all-dev" is what you want, you would install it using "sudo apt install libboost-all-dev"
[23:42] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, but check "apt show libboost-all-dev" first!
[23:42] <Ghostbowl> thank you
[23:42] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: the other thing to consider is that the software you are trying to install is from an external source, the people who make that external source should also be able to support you with the install of 'their' software
[23:42] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, before you run the installation, run "apt update" !!
[23:42] <Ghostbowl> why do I need to run apt update?
[23:43] <Mathisen> smacktalk, well you are not loged in, /msg nickserv identify
[23:43] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, because you want to make sure to get the latest dependencies / package information
[23:43] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, otherwise apt might try to download non-existing packages
[23:44] <Ghostbowl> ok, I understand
[23:44] <smacktalk> thank you Mathisen
[23:44] <Ghostbowl> what does tar --bzip2 do?
[23:44] <Ghostbowl> is bzip2 a program?
[23:44] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: you're struggling with the basics a bit here
[23:44] <SemiNus> bzip2 is a command line tool, yes
[23:45] <Ghostbowl> yes I'm struggling with the basics
[23:45] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: I suggest you try some more generic day to day use of ubuntu, before moving to more advanced topics like this
[23:45] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, it's a tool that compresses files
[23:45] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: https://help.ubuntu.com a good introduction to the basic functions of ubuntu
[23:45] <tomcres> Ghostbowl, man tar
[23:46] <Ghostbowl> how do I check if I have bzip2?
[23:46] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, by typing "bzip2" in your command line
[23:46] <Ghostbowl> thanks
[23:46] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, if something comes like "-bash: bzip2: command not found"  then it's not installed
[23:46] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, afaik, it should be part of the default installation
[23:47] <Ghostbowl> it's installed
[23:47] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, "man bzip2" is a manual explaining bzip2
[23:47] <SemiNus> it's a very powerful compressor
[23:47] <Ghostbowl> thanks
[23:47] <SemiNus> you're welcome
[23:48] <Ghostbowl> if I wget something and I don't specify a folder
[23:48] <Ghostbowl> then where does it go?
[23:49] <ikonia> current working directory
[23:49] <Ghostbowl> the folder I'm in at that moment?
[23:49] <Ghostbowl> cool
[23:49] <Ghostbowl> and I can see what's in that folder by typing ls right?
[23:49] <SemiNus> yes
[23:49] <SemiNus> no
[23:49] <SemiNus> pwd
[23:49] <SemiNus> Ghostbowl, ls lists the files and directories and symlinks
[23:49] <SemiNus> "pwd" shows you the directory you are working in
[23:49] <SemiNus> not to confuse with "passwd" which lets you change your password
[23:49] <Ghostbowl> ok, but how do I list the files in the directory?
[23:50] <SemiNus> ls
[23:50] <ikonia> Ghostbowl: you should not be trying to do what you are trying to do with your current experience
[23:50] <Ghostbowl> why?
[23:50] <SemiNus> also "ls" comes with a variety of variables, like "ls -ltr" (my favorite)
[23:50] <ikonia> it's "ok" to not know the basics, but you can't jump to trying to build software
[23:50] <opopopopop> hi, i want to try this ubuntu thing but my friend says it's too hard to use - is it true?
[23:50] <ikonia> opopopopop: depends on your background and willingness to learn
[23:50] <ikonia> opopopopop: also your usecase
[23:51] <SemiNus> opopopopop, I personally think ubuntu is very, very beginners-friendly
[23:51] <SemiNus> opopopopop, there are many resources out there is a lot of different languages, and the community is very eager to help
[23:51] <opopopopop> i just use the browser like chrome and sometimes i listen to music it's not much
[23:52] <ikonia> opopopopop: I'm sure you'll be fine
[23:52] <SemiNus> opopopopop, chrome runs definitely on Ubuntu, so does "chromium-browser"
[23:52] <opopopopop> so i just burn the cdrom and put it inside ? and then what happens ?
[23:52] <Frank_> I wonder if someone can help me with Ubuntu
[23:53] <ikonia> !install | opopopopop
[23:53] <ikonia> opopopopop: https://help.ubuntu.com is worth while having a basic read of before starting
[23:53] <SemiNus> pretty fun in this channel ^.^
[23:53] <opopopopop> hmmm okay thanks i'll give that a try
[23:53] <Frank_> i have already installedubuntu
[23:53] <ikonia> opopopopop: gives you an idea of some of the things ubuntu can do, and how to do them
[23:53] <Frank_> I know what it can do.
[23:53] <SemiNus> Frank_, what are you struggling with?
[23:54] <Frank_> My laptop is on its way back for return/refund.  So I am using an old laptop in the meantime.  I booted that laptop with a Ubuntu 15.04 USB stick
[23:55] <Frank_> Everything worked fine.  So I put a drive into the laptop to install Ubuntu on that drive
[23:55] <Frank_> Once installed on the drive and booted into Ubuntu from the drive, speakers didn't work, but headphones did
[23:56] <Frank_> So I downloaded 16.02, installed that, updated and upgradedto 17.10
[23:56] <SemiNus> did the speakers work then?
[23:56] <SemiNus> Frank_, what does "lsusb" say?
[23:56] <Frank_> Now on 17.10 from USB stick the speakers don't work.  When booted from installed version on HD speakers don't work, laptop keyboard doesn't work, and USB mouse doesn't work
[23:56] <SemiNus> stop
[23:56] <SemiNus> lspci
[23:57] <SemiNus> forget "lsusb"
[23:57] <SemiNus> I meant: "lspci"
[23:57] <Frank_> I can't do that when booted from HD because the keyboard doesn't work
[23:57] <Frank_> I can do it now when booted from USB stick...if that has to do with speaker not working
[23:57] <SemiNus> Frank_, that sounds like a real issue... that not even the keyboard works?!
[23:57] <SemiNus> that's really weird
[23:58] <SemiNus> so the keyboard works when you start from the USB stick
[23:58] <Frank_> right...on 17.10 as instqalled on HD no keyboard, USB mouse or speakers
[23:58] <SemiNus> but the keyboard does NOT work any more when you boot from the harddrive?
[23:58] <Frank_> 16.02 from USB stick no speakers, but keyboard and USB mouse work
[23:58] <Frank_> right\
[23:58] <bazhang> 16.04
[23:58] <Frank_> right
[23:58] <Frank_> =No
[23:58] <bazhang> there is not a 16.o2
[23:58] <Frank_> the stick has 16.02