[10:27] <arrenlex> J-_: Whether it can or cannot, I do not know. However, you can MAKE it do so using "for a in `ls` ; do lame $a ; done"
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> RMorris85: right-click, add to panel
[10:28] <frogzoo> ok, looks like font paths changed for edgy
[10:28] <quacklin> :-) I would like to keep dapper but have the latest package without using tar.gz ... shouldn't backport do this? I can see the package version in package search is the one I want, but did not upgrade with apt-get update/upgrade on deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse? what is the purpose of this repository?
[10:28] <RMorris85> tonyyarusso: then add what?
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> RMorris85: Network Monitor I think it's called
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> RMorris85: Unless you meant network-manager-gnome, which is something different.
[10:29] <gotit> is there any command for activating screen saver
[10:29] <RMorris85> thats not the one i had... this one i could click and it would show the wireless networks around and i could connect
[10:31] <krampo> EHLO
[10:31] <gotit> how do i install my *.tar.gz theme file
[10:31] <RMorris85> tonyyarusso: is that the one im talking about?
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> RMorris85: Probably the second then, yes.
[10:31] <RMorris85> how do i add that one?
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> RMorris85: nm-applet and some switches I believe - see if it's in your Gnome Session preferences (System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup)
[10:35] <ski-worklap> in the tower above the earth we built it for emannuel
[10:35] <Jeffm515> Night everyone..
[10:35] <PORDO> my menu settings app doesn't work.  how can i remove any custom settings that may be affecting my menu?
[10:38] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: i'm using noteedit
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: like it?
[10:39] <flasher222> it is the first i've downloaded, and i'll stick with it
[10:39] <flasher222> well, i'm still learning it
[10:39] <podr0znik> good morning/afternoon/evening/night (wherever you all are) :)
[10:39] <flasher222> but it looks simple
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> good
[10:39] <flasher222> at least it's easy to install (because it's in repo)
[10:39] <drayen> how do i add the network manager applet so that it doesnt ask me for my password everytime i boot up?
[10:40] <pepeito> jk
[10:42] <JoeShmo> if im gonna dual boot ubuntu and win xp which should i install first
[10:42] <drayen> XP
[10:42] <JoeShmo> ok
[10:43] <legsy> my pcmcia wifi card is recognized and activated
[10:44] <legsy> but when I ping the router I get: Network is unreachable
[10:44] <legsy> is there anthing else I should do ?
[10:44] <yoshig3> Anyone ever installed Steam(CS) on ubuntu with wine?
[10:44] <drayen> legsy try useing the network manager applet
[10:44] <drayen> helped me
[10:44] <somerville32> yoshig3, Steam runs on linux natively
[10:45] <PORDO> i can't get the gnome menu to revert. :(
[10:46] <legsy> drayen: where is that ?
[10:46] <joelliot> JoeShmo: install WinXP first
[10:46] <yoshig3> Can I pay ubuntu developers to develop some good graphics card drivers?
[10:46] <yoshig3> Or do I have to live with crap ones?
[10:46] <yoshig3> somerville32: what do you mean?
[10:47] <drayen> legsy: use the command prompt (terminal) and launch "sudo nm-applet"
[10:47] <somerville32> yoshig3, You don't need wine to run steam
[10:47] <yoshig3> somerville32: really? but how do I install it? I wanna play CS 1.6. That's it, I don't care about the other games.
[10:48] <jhaig> In the terminal, is it possible to get a 'visual bell'
[10:48] <somerville32> yoshig3, Install the steam engine and copy over the file from your cs install
[10:48] <somerville32> yoshig3, I'm sure you can find a tutorial with google
[10:49] <jhaig> Hmmm, if I wanted to get an upside-down '?' deliberately I wouldn't know how to do it.  :-)
[10:49] <yoshig3> somerville32: I did but it says use wine.
[10:49] <legsy> drayen: nm-applet command not found
[10:50] <drayen> legsy: install it then (sudo apt-get install nm-applet)
[10:51] <legsy> Can't find nm-applet
[10:51] <legsy> should modify sources.list ?
[10:52] <podr0znik> hey guys... I'm searching on the ubuntu website for a torrent to download the stuff
[10:52] <podr0znik> but can't find it
[10:52] <drayen> legsy: humm duno then, perhaps google for i
[10:52] <podr0znik> they say that there is a link, but where?
[10:53] <cypher1> !seen
[10:53] <cypher1> !seen keybuck
[10:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:53] <ubotu> I haven't seen keybuck recently
[10:53] <cypher1> !seen keybuck
[10:54] <jakeg> hello all. anyone here know definitively if i can install FC5 or FC6 on an *Intel* mac as a single-boot option?
[10:54] <jakeg> sorry, i mean Ubuntu not Fedora (obviously)
[10:55] <echosystm> what does apt-get -f install do?
[10:55] <Jeffm515> hey guys? -- I just thew my display outta the supported range.. .um.. help
[10:55] <Jeffm515> I'm in recovery console right now
[10:55] <echosystm> um
[10:55] <echosystm> recovery console?
[10:55] <stephan21> Jeffm515:  edit the xorg.conf to the proper resolution
[10:55] <echosystm> whats that
[10:55] <Jeffm515> thanks
[10:55] <echosystm> delete the xorg.conf
[10:55] <stephan21> Jeffm515: np
[10:56] <stephan21> Jeffm515: dont delete it
[10:56] <echosystm> and run dpkg -reconfigure xorg-server
[10:56] <echosystm> or whatever
[10:56] <nata1> hi
[10:56] <echosystm> the whoel thing is prob screwed might as well just start again...
[10:56] <TiG4> Does Xchat 2.6.8 break the custom userlist icons feature?
[10:56] <nata1> is there a way to change the resolution to different kinds in the terminal windows? not the ones ran in X, but like, the real command line area console thing.
[10:56] <quacklin> hi do you have link to install firefox2 on dapper and keep it within ubuntu repository?
[10:57] <Jeffm515> where's the xorg file at?
[10:57] <nata1> so that i could have like 800 x 600 resolution on alt + f1, 1280 x 1024 on alt + f2 etc?
[10:57] <nata1> Jeffm515: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:57] <Jeffm515> thx again
[10:58] <echosystm> Jeffm515, if you dont even know where it is, youre not going to have much hope editing it :P
[10:58] <echosystm> delete it
[10:58] <echosystm> and run
[10:58] <echosystm> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:58] <Jeffm515> I can use vi..
[10:58] <echosystm> it will take you through it step by step setting up a new config
[10:58] <stephan21> Jeffm515, /etc/xorg.conf
[10:58] <Jeffm515> that's not a problem, I just don't know where this stuff is yet
[10:59] <stephan21> Jeffm515,  dont delete a good file....
[11:01] <[L30N] > has anyone installed mailmanager on edgy?
[11:04] <Jeffm515> grr..
[11:04] <Jeffm515> any ideas for Xserver driver for a videocard that's onboard?
[11:05] <Jeffm515> compaq presario s6020WM
[11:05] <frogzoo> Jeffm515: try lspci
[11:05] <uMISTA> im getting this error?
[11:05] <uMISTA> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[11:05] <bl4ckY> hi i need some help with grub
[11:05] <frogzoo> uMISTA: install 'build-essential'
[11:05] <bl4ckY> i have a primary master device and want to install grub with command grub-install /dev/hda
[11:06] <uMISTA> is that the  apt-get bane
[11:06] <uMISTA> name
[11:06] <Jeffm515> not in the list
[11:06] <bl4ckY>  then grub shows me the line /dev/hdb1 does not have any corresponding Bios File
[11:06] <bl4ckY> dumpe2fs and fdsik -l are showing correctly with hda and in /boot/grub device.map is only (hd0) /dev/hda
[11:06] <uMISTA> look like so thanks
[11:07] <bl4ckY> someone have a idea or can help me
[11:07] <frogzoo> bl4ckY: set groot in /boot/grub/menu.lst  - then do 'sudo update-grub'
[11:11] <BjoeHrn> Good morning dudes
[11:11] <martin__> #ubuntu-de
[11:12] <twosouls82> morning BjoeHrn
[11:12] <tombow> morning? what part of the world are you guys in?
[11:13] <BjoeHrn> I want to upgrade some programs via "apt-get upgrade" but the paket "libcairo2" is retard so I'm not able to upgrade it. Any ideas?
[11:15] <daya> how to send pop up messages in linux
[11:15] <daya> to other clinet
[11:15] <BjoeHrn> tombow, I'm from germany
[11:16] <frogzoo> daya: to other windows client? or linux client?
[11:16] <twosouls82> Gutenmorgen denn :)
[11:16] <daya> frogzoo, for linux
[11:17] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, hehe guten morgen
[11:17] <twosouls82> had German for 4 years, though my German is quite crappy now =)
[11:17] <twosouls82> not well oiled :)
[11:18] <Wiseguy> hey guys whats the best way to unrar something that has been rar'ed into multiple files? just the rar util from synaptic? im looking for an alternate solution because it says it must be registered after 40 days and i dont really wanna do that
[11:18] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: where from Germany?
[11:18] <daya> frogzoo, any idea
[11:19] <frogzoo> daya: linpopup - uses samba
[11:19] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, from Niedersachsen in Oldenburg - near to Bremen
[11:19] <frogzoo> daya: but there's ways to do this in x
[11:19] <serge_> Wiseguy: unrar <file>
[11:19] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: so we are quite close to eachother
[11:19] <twosouls82> Assen, Drenthe, on the left of you
[11:20] <frogzoo> daya: best try 'apt-cache search ###'
[11:20] <Corbeaux> doe that make you threesouls83?
[11:20] <twosouls82> ehheheheh that's my joke
[11:20] <twosouls82> :D
[11:20] <twosouls82> +10 fpr Corbeaux
[11:20] <twosouls82> s/fpr/pts/
[11:20] <Corbeaux> :p
[11:21] <twosouls82> the 82 can't ever change though =)
[11:21] <rapid> daya, echo message >> /dev/ttyx
[11:22] <Corbeaux> was just thinking it made more sense if it changed to 123 actually but oh well...
[11:22] <twosouls82> :)
[11:22] <romance> hi
[11:22] <romance> this is korea
[11:22] <twosouls82> you alone?
[11:22] <Wiseguy> serge_, d/ling the shareware rar actually gave the "archive manager" the ability to open rar files
[11:22] <frogzoo> daya: you could try xmessage - not sure what it does, might be what you want
[11:22] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, hm any ideas for my problem? I use dapper. And I try "apt-get install libcairo2" and it tells me that i need a newer version of  libfreetype6 (>= 2.2) but on my system is only the 2.1 version avaible
[11:23] <rapid> BjoeHrn, get libfreetype6 v2.2 or newer
[11:23] <serge_> Wiseguy: Ah ok, if i remember correctly there was a free cli rar version.
[11:23] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: wait a sec
[11:23] <uMISTA> ok im trying to install xlibmesa-glu-dev but get a error Package xlibmesa-glu-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:23] <uMISTA> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:23] <uMISTA> is only available from another source
[11:23] <uMISTA> However the following packages replace it:
[11:23] <uMISTA>   x11proto-gl-dev
[11:23] <uMISTA> E: Package xlibmesa-glu-dev has no installation candidate
[11:23] <uMISTA> so should i install the x11proto-gl-dev?
[11:23] <rapid> dont do that
[11:23] <serge_> Wiseguy: but i guess you want the GUI version
[11:24] <BjoeHrn> rapid, sure but then i have to compile it on my own there is no dapper paket
[11:24] <daya> rapid, I don't get you, what /deyx destination or what
[11:24] <Wiseguy> serge_, i dont NEED it :P its just nice to have everything at a point and click away
[11:24] <rapid> daya: press w, see what tty or pts/ the user is on the use "echo /dev/pts/4 >> your message here"
[11:25] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: I guess the "don't" wasn't meant for you ")
[11:25] <rapid> daya: /dev/pts/4 is probably the first ssh connection, if its a local user they will be on a /dev/tty1,2,3
[11:26] <serge_> Wiseguy: hmm true, well then your stick with the shareware version :)
[11:27] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: that package might be here; "deb-src http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main" add it to the sources.list file
[11:27] <frogzoo> !mouse | dreamer
[11:27] <ubotu> dreamer: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[11:27] <Tmob> hi, i recompiled a kernel module and copied it to /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/usb/core, but when i reboot its still seems to load the old module.. anyothing else i should do?
[11:27] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: host is down :\ looking for another
[11:28] <uMISTA> i trying to install wine with opengl, i need to install this?
[11:28] <uMISTA> sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-glu-dev
[11:28] <uMISTA> but it comes with up error about not there
[11:29] <frogzoo> uMISTA: why not just install from the budgetdedicated repo?
[11:29] <uMISTA> ?
[11:29] <uMISTA> wht thats?
[11:29] <frogzoo> uMISTA: for the 2nd time...
[11:29] <frogzoo> !wine | uMISTA
[11:29] <ubotu> uMISTA: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:29] <rapid> Tmob: what about a depmod -a
[11:30] <dreamer> frogzoo:sorry, but I don't know what to do with those pages~
[11:30] <uMISTA> io know about wine and thats wht i trying to install
[11:30] <uMISTA> but im trying to get opengl installed with it
[11:30] <frogzoo> dreamer: you read them
[11:30] <dreamer> I have
[11:30] <dreamer> but I don't know what has to do with my problem
[11:30] <uMISTA> i need to install xlibmesa-glu-dev
[11:30] <uMISTA> but cant
[11:31] <dreamer> I find it peculiar that the middle-mouse as scroll does work in thunderbird
[11:31] <sergevn> uMISTA: Enable multiverse repos.
[11:31] <dreamer> and with scroll I mean: press and scroll
[11:31] <dreamer> not roll and scroll
[11:31] <dreamer> like: it's more of a dynamic scroll-function
[11:31] <uMISTA> sorry how?
[11:31] <frogzoo> dreamer: change your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it looks like the docs, from "This is what the relevant portion of my xorg.conf file looks like:"
[11:32] <cvrse> anyone know of a program to cut commercials from a dvb capture?
[11:32] <dreamer> frogzoo: why 7 buttons ?
[11:32] <dreamer> H have only 3
[11:32] <sergevn> uMISTA: edit as root /etc/apt/sources.list , then uncomment the multi/uni-verse lines. save the file and do as root "apt-get update"
[11:32] <frogzoo> dreamer: scroll button counts as 3
[11:33] <dreamer> ok: up/down/push ?
[11:33] <daya> rapid, I mean how to broadcast one message so that all users in the network will see it?
[11:33] <dreamer> so then it should be 5 ?
[11:33] <daya> rapid, I mean I want to broadcast the message in the linux
[11:34] <daya> rapid, in the network
[11:34] <rapid> daya: Hmm.. don't know.. I'd say theres some software. I only ever used that method :)
[11:35] <Joelio> Got segfaults with Evolution on edgy.. what's the deal.. looks like something to do with caem
[11:35] <Joelio> camel
[11:35] <Joelio> more importantly, what's the fix?
[11:36] <flasher222> how can i tell whether my soundcard has a hardware MIDI synthesizer?
[11:36] <daya> rapid, ok yar, what are these
[11:36] <rapid> daya: I tried googleing for you and found this http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/7066 which I found interesting although its got nothing to do with what youi want
[11:37] <rapid> daya: or you could try, "man wall"
[11:38] <Joelio> Is there an Evolution issue guys?
[11:39] <Joelio> I'm on edgy, have done nothing, but it keeps segfaulting
[11:39] <lepirlouit> join #nux
[11:39] <rapid> no
[11:39] <rapid> you stay there.
[11:39] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: can't find the package, though it should be in the compiz repo, since it is a dependency of that too
[11:41] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, this could be - i'm remove xgl and beryl at the moment ;) It's only a toy ;)
[11:41] <RichEd> Hey guys ... Any idea why my mplayer display goes dim after playing a couple of movies, and then eventually black (with sound playing). I'm trying to find a workaround that aviods a reboot.
[11:41] <daya> rapid, I mean what we use as "net use"
[11:41] <daya> rapid, or net send
[11:41] <rapid> daya, did you man wall?
[11:42] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: you only need the compiz repo for the package, not for toying, toying with Beryl is better
[11:42] <twosouls82> s/for/from/
[11:43] <Joelio> IS THERE AN EVOLUTION ISSUE IN EDGY?
[11:43] <twosouls82> caps?
[11:43] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, yes ;) but i removed it now
[11:43] <twosouls82> BjoeHrn: good :P
[11:44] <foxpaul> hi all - i've got a problem when mounting a hard disk, i get I/O Error DriveReady SeekComplete Error & UncorrectableError - can i fix it somehow?
[11:44] <BjoeHrn> so xserver restart brb
[11:45] <ruxpin> foxpaul: ouch, broken HDD
[11:45] <Wiseguy> hey guys what do i use to see my webcam feed? and how do i turn it off?
[11:45] <ootput> g'day ladies and gents
[11:45] <foxpaul> ruxpin, really? crap
[11:45] <ruxpin> foxpaul: if you don't have backups make them quickly and get a new drive
[11:45] <daya> rapid, yes but i don't get what i want
[11:45] <dreamer> frogzoo: with your suggestion X failed to load, I had to reconfigure and reboot
[11:45] <daya> rapid, it doesn't pop up the message in the remote clietns
[11:45] <foxpaul> ruxpin, can i not fsck the disk and mount it to get stuff off it?
[11:46] <daya> rapid, any idea
[11:46] <ruxpin> foxpaul: after you've got everything you can recover, mount the drive as readonly and do e2fsck (for ext3) - see man e2fsck and the ubuntu forums. there are many pages that help you out
[11:46] <rapid> daya: how are the remote clients connected?
[11:46] <rapid> what protocol or whatever the heck
[11:46] <foxpaul> ruxpin, thanks
[11:47] <daya> rapid, in the network I mean to broadcast
[11:48] <stiffme1983> how to disable power saving in console mode
[11:48] <flasher222> can someone help me get midi (playback) on my computer?
[11:48] <flasher222> please
[11:49] <Wiseguy> anyone have a recommendation for webcam software?
[11:49] <foxpaul> ruxpin, do you know how i can mount the disk as read-only?
[11:49] <rapid> daya i'm confused, who / what are you broadcasting to ? and how are they connected to the server.
[11:49] <rapid> Wiseguy, xawtv I think works
[11:49] <ootput> hi guys, is there a channel specifically for beryl and ubuntu usage?
[11:50] <dreamer> frogzoo: and I have found the option: it's called autoscrolling in the FF-preferences
[11:50] <daya> daya, I mean I am in one pc in a network
[11:50] <daya> rapid, I mean i am in on pc in a network
[11:50] <kartikmohta> Wiseguy: try gqcam too
[11:50] <daya> rapid, and i want  to send messages to all the users
[11:51] <burepe> What is the command to see how much space I have left in my hardrive?
[11:51] <rapid> burepe, df
[11:51] <burepe> thanks!
[11:51] <daya> rapid, in the network
[11:51] <daya> rapid, did you get my point
[11:51] <daya> rapid, that we use as net send in windows
[11:52] <daya> rapid, in the same subnetwork
[11:52] <umop> how do i restart my mouse?  I have a KVM switch and i lose the mouse if i shutdown a computer with kvm focus
[11:52] <rapid> umop, try "gpm"
[11:52] <frogzoo> daya: did you even look at linpopup?
[11:52] <rapid> daya: I'm not sure..
[11:53] <daya> frogzoo, what is that?
[11:53] <umop> rapid, Can't find that command
[11:53] <rapid> umop: restart your X server?
[11:54] <klotho> so I'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on an IBM T23, and it keeps freezing during the install
[11:54] <klotho> is there a way to do text mode install? I can't see one.
[11:54] <frogzoo> daya: google would answer that question
[11:54] <umop> rapid, that doesnt work either :(.  the only way it comes back is if I boot another computer and wait for it to load the mouse, and then switch
[11:54] <stiffme1983> klotho: you have to use an alternate CD rather than liveCD
[11:54] <klotho> oh
[11:54] <klotho> is this a known problem with live cd?
[11:55] <klotho> it doesn't freeze, but the install stops responding after a few screens.
[11:55] <stiffme1983> klotho: i dont know, but you can also perform net install
[11:55] <frogzoo> klotho: which distro?
[11:55] <klotho> 6.10
[11:55] <stiffme1983> frogzoo: edgy
[11:55] <klotho> desktop
[11:55] <twosouls82> klotho: what processor and mem?
[11:55] <frogzoo> the edgy install can be used as a live cd
[11:55] <rapid> umop, hmm, bloody kvm
[11:56] <sushi_> !fonts
[11:56] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:56] <sushi_> thanks
[11:56] <klotho> pentium 4, 1.2 GHz, 256MB ram
[11:56] <sushi_> =)
[11:56] <sushi_> I LOVE Ubuntu!
[11:56] <umop> rapid, yea :(, I think i may have to put up with it..or buy a decent kvm
[11:56] <klotho> is that enough ram?
[11:56] <stiffme1983> how to stop power saving in console mode?
[11:56] <frogzoo> klotho: it's enough as long as you're not expecting anything flash
[11:57] <umop> rapid, im not sure how the mouse is 'mounted' or whatever..maybe i could try re doing that?
[11:57] <podr0znik> Is there maybe sb from Poland here?
[11:57] <klotho> how much does it really need?
[11:57] <daya> frogzoo, o.k
[11:57] <frogzoo> stiffme1983: probly 'sudo /etc/init.d/acpi-support stop
[11:57] <rapid> umop: not sure, my distribution slackware uses gpm, try find what ubuntu uses for the mouse
[11:57] <rapid> umop: kill the service and restart it
[11:57] <daya> rapid, thanks for providing info
[11:57] <rapid> daya: np, sorry couldn't help anymore
[11:57] <daya> frogzoo, thanks
[11:58] <libre> can anyone help me a bit with Amarok ? im trying to play some mp3 files and it says that the gst-engine dosnt support mp3 files
[11:58] <rapid> amarok is cool
[11:58] <podr0znik> I need to know if ubuntu can handle Polish characters properly
[11:58] <rapid> I don't know about that error.
[11:58] <umop> songbird is cool :)
[11:58] <stiffme1983> libre: maybe you need a library for xine to play mp3
[11:58] <klotho> which iso should I get to do a text install of desktop on my IBM T23?
[11:58] <twosouls82> klotho: should do, propably another hardware problem, tried switching VCs on hangup?
[11:58] <rapid> does amarok use xine to play files?
[11:58] <stiffme1983> klotho: alternate cd for x86
[11:59] <klotho> what are vcs?
[11:59] <stiffme1983> rapid: i think so
[11:59] <rapid> stiffme1983, thats strange.. no that i know of.
[11:59] <twosouls82> I never use the LiveCD btw
[11:59] <klotho> ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso ?
[11:59] <arfonzo> hi, i've just installed edgy, and vmware doesn't start anymore, does anyone know why it might be happening? it worked fine in dapper
[11:59] <twosouls82> yeah the alternate is good
[11:59] <stiffme1983> klotho: yes
[11:59] <klotho> or ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ?
[11:59] <stiffme1983> klotho: desktop is a liveCD
[12:00] <stiffme1983> klotho: use alternate cd to perform install in text mode
[12:00] <frogzoo> rapid: you have a choice of xine or gstreamer as the engine, xine is best
[12:00] <daya> rapid, its all right
[12:00] <twosouls82> klotho: desktop = live + installable --> alternate = 'proper' installer
[12:00] <klotho> okay. I must say that this live CD is live in the sense that a slow loris is live... at least with my slow CD drive
[12:01] <rapid> slowasis
[12:01] <rapid> slowaris
[12:01] <twosouls82> solaris?
[12:01] <podr0znik> hmm, do I first need to pay membership fee to get help here? ;)
[12:01] <mgpalmer> Hello everyone, maybe someone can help me: I've got a Logitech USB 4-Button Mouse, and I'd like to use the thumb button as a "back" button (got used to it on windows). Also it would be nice to have no acceleration but high sensitivity.
[12:01] <twosouls82> hahaha podr0znik
[12:01] <rapid> podr0znik, pay mew
[12:01] <twosouls82> how come?
[12:01] <stiffme1983> klotho: if you have a fast network, you can install text mode ,and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:01] <podr0znik> yeah, you see... now it's about money ;)
[12:02] <klotho> not that fast
[12:02] <podr0znik> I was searching for sb from Poland, there are so many people here? :)
[12:02] <twosouls82> remember, free as in speech
[12:02] <twosouls82> =)
[12:02] <rapid> what do you want? polish support
[12:02] <frogzoo> !patience | podr0znik
[12:02] <ubotu> podr0znik: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:03] <Wiseguy> hey guys how do i get windows media player support in firefox?
[12:03] <podr0znik> I only wanted to know if ubuntu can handle Polish characters (Central European character set?)
[12:03] <klotho> when I set the time zone, it doesn't set, then the install stops responding. how can I kill it and start over? I don't know the process name.
[12:03] <podr0znik> sorry frogzoo :) didn't want to offend anybody:)
[12:03] <twosouls82> !codecs | Wiseguy
[12:03] <ubotu> Wiseguy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:03] <klotho> do you know what process name it is?
[12:03] <jhaig> I have installed ubuntu on a laptop with a wireless card.  What would I need to do to connect to open access points?  I found the 'network manager' package, but is this the standard way?
[12:03] <podr0znik> and sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, just a newbie :)
[12:03] <rapid> jhaig, I guess so
[12:03] <reverseblade> *** Are files larger than 2GB supported on DVD if you burn it ?
[12:04] <rapid> reverseblade, of course a DVD is well over 2gb
[12:04] <rapid> jhaig, i would use iwconfig but thats me
[12:04] <frogzoo> !po | podr0znik
[12:04] <klotho> anyone? what is the process name for the install process on the live cd?
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about po - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <ski-worklap> podr0znik, /join #gentoo-pl
[12:04] <floating> what was teh to indicate current directory in cmd line ? like if I am in /home/joo/jaa/ can I write it shorter like .. / or how it was teh ?
[12:04] <podr0znik> thx ski-worklap
[12:04] <jhaig> rapid: At the moment I don't use anything, and I'm looking to see what is available.  I'll look up iwconfig.  Thanks.
[12:05] <reverseblade> klotho, right click the icon and learn its properties
[12:05] <rapid> floating, pwd
[12:05] <ski-worklap> podr0znik, the short answer is that gentoo does support the polish locale, but folks there will know alot more about it than us
[12:05] <floating> rapid, in a command, if I want to move a file
[12:05] <reverseblade> rapid, check out this
[12:05] <rapid> jhaig, iwconfig is all command line based. ubuntu should have standard method for this
[12:05] <reverseblade> rapid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[12:05] <frogzoo> !pl | podr0znik
[12:05] <ubotu> podr0znik: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:06] <reverseblade> rapid, there it says : WARNING: Files that are bigger than 2GB (a little less actually) are not supported by ISO9660 and may or may not be restorable. So don't simply burn a DVD with a huge .iso file on it.
[12:06] <frogzoo> floating: PWD = .
[12:06] <ski-worklap> podr0znik, by "gentoo-pl", i of course meant "ubuntu-pl" :)
[12:06] <reverseblade> rapid, this why I am confused
[12:06] <T2T> how do i mount disks
[12:06] <reverseblade> this is
[12:06] <reverseblade> !mount | T2T
[12:06] <ubotu> T2T: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:06] <ski-worklap> !ge
[12:06] <ubotu>       #ubuntu-ge - ~ For Georgian language support, please join #ubuntu-ge
[12:06] <podr0znik> thank you frogzoo :)
[12:06] <rapid> T2T, man mount
[12:06] <rapid> reverseblade, the ubuntu dvd iso is well over 2gig
[12:06] <ski-worklap> !pt
[12:06] <T2T> thanks guys
[12:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:06] <frogzoo> !fstab | T2T
[12:06] <ubotu> T2T: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[12:06] <mgpalmer> Hello everyone, maybe someone can help me: I've got a Logitech USB 4-Button Mouse, and I'd like to use the thumb button as a "back" button (got used to it on windows). I cant find any settings for this in the standard mouse preferences window...
[12:07] <reverseblade> T2T : wiki.ubuntu.com/mount
[12:07] <floating> frogzoo,can you give an example hmh
[12:07] <podr0znik> and thank you ski-worklap :)
[12:07] <frogzoo> !mouse | mgpalmer
[12:07] <ubotu> mgpalmer: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[12:07] <reverseblade> rapid, yes but why that wiki says the otherwise ?
[12:07] <flasher222> is there a gui front for timidtity?
[12:07] <flasher222> timidity?
[12:07] <frogzoo> floating: rm ./blah
[12:07] <mgpalmer> frogzoo: ah great, thanks
[12:07] <klotho> it said it was gksudo, so I killed that and the install is still there
[12:08] <klotho> how do I do a net install of desktop?
[12:08] <eilker> !Nagios
[12:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Nagios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:08] <rapid> reverseblade, that means if its not been burnt as ISO format
[12:08] <mgpalmer> Another question in the same vein: Is there a way to set mouse sensitivity/acceleration with more options ?
[12:08] <floating> frogzoo: if im in /jaa/joo and want to move file to /jaa/joo/juu I type mv file ./juu ?
[12:08] <rapid> whats wrong with nagios
[12:08] <stiffme1983> klotho: you can consult wiki
[12:08] <rapid> nagios is cool
[12:08] <jhaig> flasher222: I've not used it myself, but the timidity website has an 'interfaces' section: <http://timidity.sourceforge.net/>
[12:08] <stiffme1983> klotho: it is a little complicated
[12:09] <rapid> reverseblade, so like dont burn a DVD with in data format with a bunch of iso files on it
[12:09] <uMISTA> anyone know of beryl command to turn on features on certin apps
[12:09] <eilker> rapid: i dont know what it is, just used the bot to learn
[12:09] <klotho> why when I killed the process did it not go away?
[12:09] <frogzoo> floating: yes, but 'mv file juu' will also do it   - also parent directory is ..
[12:09] <nothlit> !netboot
[12:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:09] <rapid> eilker: nagios is a web based server monitoring toool
[12:09] <jhaig> klotho: How did you try to kill it?
[12:09] <stiffme1983> klotho: what kind of process?
[12:09] <yoshig3> GOD why is 4chan so full of idiocy!?
[12:10] <rapid> eilker: Nagios is host and service monitor designed to inform you of network problems before your clients, end-users or managers do. It has been designed to run under the Linux operating system, but works fine under most *NIX variants http://www.nagios.org/
[12:10] <reverseblade> rapid, I am using growisfos -J -R -Z /dev/hdc /path/to/my/archive. the file size is 2.5 GB. Am I in any danger ?
[12:10] <jhaig> klotho: If you tried "kill 123" it will try to close the process cleanly, so it may not do so immediately.
[12:10] <yoshig3> What is "nautilus"?
[12:10] <eilker> rapid:thank you
[12:10] <reverseblade> !nautilus | yoshig3
[12:10] <klotho> i just used system monitor
[12:10] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[12:11] <rapid> reverseblade, i've never used growisfos, I can't guarantee you anything.. sounds like a risky operation :)
[12:11] <floating> frogzoo: i get this mv: cannot move `joulukalenteri' to a subdirectory of itself, `joulukalenteri/joulukalenteri'
[12:11] <floating> both was
[12:11] <floating> ways
[12:11] <rapid> thats cause you made a error somewhere.
[12:12] <rapid> more than likely
[12:12] <svizzero> anyone knows why I can't activate the plugin gaim encryption or gaim otr in the plugin window? (they just don't focus)
[12:12] <reverseblade> rapid, this a server and I need to handle the backup thingy from console. I am burning my backups to DVD which is a reasonable thing I believe. Do I have any other options rather than growisofs?
[12:12] <nothlit> klotho, what did you try to kill?
[12:12] <floating> :D
[12:12] <klotho> when I do a text mode install with the alternate CD, is there an easy way to get all the desktop stuff to be configured and installed?
[12:12] <jhaig> klotho: Did you do it with "End Process"?  Try right-clicking on the process and using "Kill Process" instead.
[12:12] <nothlit> if you do the default install with the alternate disc, it ends up the same as the livecd
[12:12] <klotho> I tried to kill the hung install process
[12:13] <stiffme1983> klotho: alternate cd
[12:13] <floating> frogzoo: oh,nm. the files have moved, but still this cannot move message came
[12:13] <klotho> stiffme1983:
[12:13] <klotho> when I do a text mode install with the alternate CD, is there an easy way to get all the desktop stuff to be configured and installed?
[12:13] <rapid> reverseblade, once its done, split the file before burning
[12:13] <stiffme1983> klotho: it can install ubuntu desktop environment in textmode
[12:13] <nothlit> if you do the default install with the alternate disc, it ends up the same as the livecd
[12:14] <klotho> ok, cool
[12:14] <mrstocks> Hello i have some trouble with ly keyboard using linux, like in Vim whenever i press up / down ect i get a B or a C on a new line
[12:14] <mrstocks> anyidea ?
[12:14] <frogzoo> klotho: the text install when it runs to completion install a gui/desktop
[12:14] <nothlit> frogzoo, theres a miminal install too btw
[12:14] <stiffme1983> klotho: although it is in text mode ,it's still very easy to install it
[12:14] <rapid> mrstocks, press I maybe
[12:14] <reverseblade> rapid, that's what in my head. But since I will write a crontab for this, I want to keep it as simple as possible. So having a 2GB tar archive, I am curious if splitting is compulsory or not.
[12:14] <frogzoo> nothlit: the server install ?
[12:14] <mrstocks> rapid for insert ?
[12:14] <klotho> I see no process in the list which corresponds to what is specified in the properties for the installer
[12:14] <rapid> mrstocks, yeah.
[12:14] <klotho> and when I killed gconfd it didn't kill it
[12:14] <uMISTA> have a look people
[12:15] <mrstocks> rapid; no i guess to go up in the file.
[12:15] <uMISTA> http://www.google.co.nz/
[12:15] <uMISTA> new picture
[12:15] <jhaig> mrstocks: Do you have "vi compatibility" set?
[12:15] <rapid> mrstocks, if your just viewing use less
[12:15] <rapid> ...
[12:15] <nothlit> frogzoo, no on the alternate disc
[12:15] <rapid> reverseblade, probably not.
[12:15] <mrstocks> rapid, no, i edit files not just read, jhaig i will check.
[12:15] <stiffme1983> .........
[12:15] <mrstocks> nothlit nope it isn't set
[12:16] <mrstocks> what in the value / argument ?
[12:16] <jhaig> mrstocks: ... because it sounds like what happens sometimes with vi on Solaris.
[12:16] <echosystm> anyone know how to get xfce4 non-beta? (ie. non 4.4)
[12:16] <echosystm> is it in the repositories at all?
[12:16] <echosystm> apt-get install xfce4 installs beta 2 :(
[12:16] <reverseblade> rapid, what do you recommend, should I split it or not ?
[12:17] <nothlit> !info xfce4
[12:17] <ubotu> xfce4: meta-package for xfce4 dependencies. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS> (edgy), package size 4 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:17] <rapid> reverseblade, its quite easy to split it then put it back together. if the documentation says to do so, then you probably should.
[12:17] <nothlit> i don't see 4.4
[12:18] <sushi_> whats the apt command to install the meta-package?
[12:18] <frogzoo> nothlit: I see, thx
[12:19] <pitti> divansantana: hi
[12:19] <KenSentMe> Is it possible to remove all packages from a certain repo?
[12:19] <Kyral> sushi_: The same as normal packages
[12:19] <divansantana> pretty please can someone tell me how to rebuild a deb file(from source?) with addiotnal configuration options
[12:19] <klotho> so far I'm not very happy with ubuntu
[12:19] <echosystm> nothlit
[12:19] <pitti> divansantana: there shuold be enough docs on the wiki, but it boils down to 'apt-get source package -- edit configure params debian/rules -- debuild -us -uc -b'
[12:19] <klotho> the install locks up and can't be terminated, apparently
[12:20] <nothlit> klotho, use the other disc then
[12:20] <echosystm> apparently <IP_ADDRESS> is 4.4 beta 2
[12:20] <klotho> why not name the install process "install" so you can at least kill it?
[12:20] <echosystm> hmm
[12:20] <echosystm> actually
[12:20] <divansantana> pitti: I have seached docs and wiki
[12:20] <stiffme1983> you can kill the process immediately using 9
[12:20] <echosystm> i have <IP_ADDRESS> !
[12:20] <klotho> right, but WHICH process?
[12:20] <divansantana> pitti: I have done apt-get source squid
[12:20] <echosystm> which is 4.4 beta 2
[12:20] <klotho> I tried killing several that looked likely and the stupid time zone set thing stayed hanging on the screen
[12:20] <divansantana> pitti: and did a ./configure --myoptions
[12:21] <nothlit> echosystm, check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:21] <klotho> and restarting install did nothing because there was already an instance running, probably
[12:21] <echosystm> regardless, <IP_ADDRESS> is the stable version
[12:21] <nothlit> echosystm, are you running feisty or something?
[12:21] <echosystm> nope
[12:21] <echosystm> 6.10
[12:21] <jhaig> klotho: How much memory does your machine have?
[12:21] <divansantana> pitti: and then did a debuild -us -uc -b
[12:21] <klotho> 256K
[12:21] <klotho> sorry
[12:21] <klotho> 256M
[12:21] <divansantana> what do i do in debian/rules though?
[12:21] <nothlit> echosystm, then why do you have <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:21] <ski-worklap> what's the eta on feisty?
[12:21] <klotho> although 256K used to be enough to run unix!
[12:21] <echosystm> i have no idea
[12:21] <nothlit> echosystm, thats not whats in the repos
[12:21] <echosystm> maybe because im not running xubuntu?
[12:22] <echosystm> ive got ubuntu
[12:22] <echosystm> with universe + multiverse enabled or whatever
[12:22] <nothlit> echosystm, i have plain ubuntu too
[12:22] <echosystm> i just did apt-get isntall xfce4
[12:22] <nothlit> klotho, a livecd takes more
[12:22] <nothlit> klotho, you should be fine with the alternate install
[12:22] <klotho> nothlit: how about actually running it?
[12:22] <echosystm> maybe that little irc plugin is out dated?
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> ski-worklap: Late April 2007
[12:23] <nothlit> klotho, it might be possible, if not you can use xubuntu
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> !feisty | ski-worklap
[12:23] <ubotu> ski-worklap: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[12:23] <nothlit> echosystm, no i checked my apt-cache, the bot was just for your info
[12:23] <pitti> divansantana: that won't help you, debuild cleans the source and thus the ./configure efects
[12:23] <jhaig> I ask because I found that the install freezes if you have only 128M of memory and no swap space.
[12:23] <echosystm> what would explain me getting this package then? :P
[12:23] <ski-worklap> tonyyarusso, thx
[12:23] <echosystm> i dont even know how to download packages
[12:23] <pitti> divansantana: you need to set the configure options in debian/rules, or you can try with ./configure --foo and debuild -us -uc -b -nc
[12:23] <echosystm> haha
[12:23] <pitti> divansantana: the '-nc' means 'no clean'
[12:23] <nothlit> echosystm, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:24] <nothlit> !pastebin | echosystm
[12:24] <ubotu> echosystm: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <klotho> where are the system requirements? I don't see them on the ubuntu.com page describing the product.
[12:25] <susscorfa> they are not that high
[12:25] <divansantana> pitti: O, I think a light bulb just went on!!!
[12:25] <klotho> they should be there, really obviously highlighted so you can decide if you need xubuntu
[12:25] <divansantana> pitti: AWESOME! I think I understand, let me give it a try quickQ
[12:25] <echosystm> how do i copy xterm output?
[12:25] <nothlit> klotho, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecycleOldHardware?highlight=%28minimum%29%7C%28requirements%29#head-88bede6f53b30a9a033c9ab56e1d898aa9057eec
[12:26] <nothlit> echosystm, select it and then paste with middle click
[12:26] <RobO> hello all i am looking for a good blog editing app for dapper... something that is like blogjet or bloggar
[12:26] <jhaig> nothlit: That must be out of date.  The release notes for 6.06 says 256Mb.
[12:27] <nothlit> !blogtk
[12:27] <ubotu> blogtk: GTK Weblogging client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 71 kB, installed size 572 kB
[12:27] <nothlit> jhaig, oh
[12:27] <klotho> jhaig: what's the link for that? and is 256M enough or should I really be using xubuntu?
[12:27] <RobO> that is a crappy app
[12:27] <sephirot1> Hi, can anyone suggest which java pkg to install- i am talking about the development-kit- would you recommend the blackdown java or sun-java?
[12:27] <nothlit> !drivel
[12:27] <ubotu> drivel: Blogging client for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 399 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[12:27] <echosystm> i get an error
[12:27] <sephirot1> is there any difference to begin with?
[12:27] <echosystm> i think pastebin isnt working?
[12:27] <echosystm> query failure

[12:28] <reverseblade> sephirot1, the JDK is in the repos (v 1.5)
[12:28] <KenSentMe> echosystm:  use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:28] <reverseblade> sephirot1, go with sun java
[12:28] <nothlit> echosystm, use pastebin.ca
[12:28] <Beta_M> i can't find torrent download option on the website
[12:28] <RobO> ne thing that has some real features?? i have tried drivel, blogtk, and just about all of the linux ported apps they dont have any real features
[12:28] <nothlit> Beta_M, go to additional methods
[12:28] <nothlit> Beta_M, then look through the file list for torrents
[12:28] <sephirot1> /quit
[12:29] <echosystm> http://pastebin.ca/276484
[12:30] <klotho> so is 256M really usable or will it always be thrashing?
[12:30] <echosystm> i just enabled everything
[12:30] <RobO> i guess not huh??/
[12:31] <nothlit> echosystm, apt-cache show xfce4
[12:31] <nothlit>  echosystm oh, you know what, its because you enabled backports
[12:31] <echosystm> oh
[12:31] <echosystm> :P
[12:31] <echosystm> thats bad?
[12:31] <nothlit> no
[12:31] <nothlit> but its beta
[12:31] <echosystm> ah
[12:32] <echosystm> no wonder everything has been screwing up on me
[12:32] <echosystm> haha
[12:32] <nothlit> and not with security updates
[12:32] <echosystm> rightyo
[12:32] <echosystm> so
[12:32] <echosystm> seing as the standard repo for xfce 4 is still not a stable release
[12:32] <echosystm> how do i go about getting the stable version?
[12:32] <klotho> anyone have a considered opinion on whether with 256M I should be using xubuntu?
[12:32] <nothlit> no the regular repo is stable
[12:33] <echosystm> but it isnt the right version?
[12:33] <jhaig> klotho: I'm not sure - I'm not really too familar with ubuntu myself, but xubuntu would probably be a safer bet.
[12:33] <klotho> what do I lose by using xubuntu?
[12:33] <jhaig> You can convert it into standard ubuntu by installing the desktop-ubuntu package, I think.
[12:33] <echosystm> <IP_ADDRESS> is the stable version
[12:33] <nothlit> echosystm, downgrading manually would be annoying, easiest way would be to disable backports and removing and reinstalling xfce (after sudo aptitude update of course)
[12:33] <echosystm> the package you said earlier was different
[12:34] <jhaig> klotho: I think it doesn't intall open office, and some of the gnome stuff is replaced with more light weight alternatives.
[12:34] <echosystm> afaik 4.3.X.X were release candidates
[12:34] <jhaig> but you can install these afterwards if you need.
[12:35] <klotho> jhaig: anything that won't work on xubuntu?
[12:35] <klotho> like any apps, etc.?
[12:35] <xander> helllooooooooooo
[12:35] <nick4> I just installed 6.10 and I would like the 6.06 bash colors. How can I do that?
[12:35] <jhaig> Everything should work, but the desktop integration might be different.
[12:35] <nothlit> echosystm, then you could compile it yourself
[12:36] <nothlit> klotho, xubuntu is gtk based, everything that you run in gnome should be able to work with xubuntu
[12:36] <jhaig> but when you have a swap partition, it will probably be possible to convert xubuntu to ubuntu.
[12:36] <echosystm> 2006/07/10 - Xfce 4.4 beta 2 (<IP_ADDRESS>) released
[12:36] <echosystm> righto
[12:36] <echosystm> whats involved with that? :P
[12:36] <nothlit> klotho, it basically is a more lightweight de, and comes with a more lightweight suite of apps
[12:36] <nothlit> echosystm, then you could compile it yourself
[12:37] <klotho> it's just the gtk that makes the memory requirement lower?
[12:37] <echosystm> yeah
[12:37] <echosystm> ive never compiled anything before
[12:37] <echosystm> what does it involve?
[12:37] <nothlit> echosystm, you have to remember though, that ubuntu would have fixed up the app
[12:37] <nothlit> !compile | echosystem
[12:37] <ubotu> echosystem: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:37] <echosystm> ok sounds nasty
[12:38] <echosystm> i'll stick with the beta
[12:38] <echosystm> haha
[12:38] <echosystm> :D
[12:38] <nothlit> klotho, no, just the way it operates and the apps it includes
[12:38] <nothlit> klotho, gnome uses gtk as well
[12:38] <echosystm> thanks for your help nothlit
[12:38] <echosystm> really appreciated
[12:38] <klotho> it actually uses xfce
[12:38] <klotho> apparently
[12:39] <nothlit> yes
[12:39] <nothlit> it does
[12:39] <jhaig> I think xfce and gnome are both built on top of gtk
[12:39] <nothlit> thats correct
[12:39] <jhaig> but gnome is built with more bells and whistles
[12:39] <spx2> how do i figgure out my LCD refresh rate ?
[12:40] <spx2> i  know what my laptop is
[12:40] <nothlit> klotho, you can still install any gnome apps you may miss
[12:40] <spx2> but i can't find in the pdf's refresh rate vertical and horizontal
[12:40] <klotho> how easy is it to switch from gnome to xfce if I need to conserve memory?
[12:40] <nothlit> klotho, just log out, choose one of them in sessions, and log in
[12:40] <spx2> klotho: do a  ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:40] <klotho> so xfce comes with the regular ubuntu too?
[12:41] <nothlit> if you start from xubuntu, install ubuntu-desktop, and if you start with ubuntu, install xubuntu-desktop
[12:41] <echosystm> no
[12:41] <spx2> klotho: sudo apt-get install xfce
[12:41] <nothlit> klos_, no
[12:41] <echosystm> you have to download it
[12:41] <klotho> ah okay, cool
[12:41] <twosouls82> how do I unsit a .sit file?
[12:41] <echosystm> i wouldnt install all the bells and whistles of any of the distros though klotho
[12:41] <spx2> (01:40:05 PM) spx2: how do i figgure out my LCD refresh rate ?
[12:41] <spx2> (01:40:11 PM) spx2: i  know what my laptop is
[12:41] <spx2> (01:40:22 PM) spx2: but i can't find in the pdf's refresh rate vertical and horizontal
[12:41] <echosystm> get the buntu alternate cd
[12:41] <klotho> so maybe I'll install the regular one and then get xfce if I am low on ram
[12:41] <echosystm> and install the things you need only
[12:41] <echosystm> thats what i have done
[12:41] <QwertyM> st00pid DNS
[12:42] <echosystm> theres way too much crap in ubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[12:42] <klotho> like what, echosystm?
[12:42] <echosystm> all the programs you wont use
[12:42] <echosystm> like xine
[12:42] <nothlit> extra apps
[12:42] <echosystm> VLC > xine etc.
[12:42] <echosystm> install what you want
[12:42] <nothlit> ubuntu-desktop doesn't have xine
[12:42] <echosystm> it will be a pit of a pain
[12:42] <echosystm> but its worth it
[12:42] <klotho> what's xine?
[12:42] <twosouls82> xine is in kubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <twosouls82> !xine
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <spx2> klotho: use fluxbox
[12:43] <twosouls82> :\
[12:43] <echosystm> sorry gxine
[12:43] <nothlit> i thought kubuntu-desktop uses kaffeine
[12:43] <echosystm> comes with xubuntu
[12:43] <klotho> problem is, I've never used linux as a desktop before, so I don't know what apps I may need
[12:43] <twosouls82> i thought kubuntu-desktop uses kaffeine -> which is a frontend for the xine backend
[12:43] <echosystm> ok
[12:43] <nothlit> guys don't recommend non-de's to people new to linux
[12:43] <echosystm> this is what you want to do
[12:43] <echosystm> mmm
[12:43] <flasher222> how can i search my hard drive for all files with extension *.not?
[12:44] <higir> how do I access a WAP secured WIFI?
[12:44] <QwertyM> VLC 0.8.6 out yet ?
[12:44] <twosouls82> klotho: use aptitude/synaptic and query to find out
[12:44] <nothlit> twosouls82, oh, haven't used kde in years
[12:44] <klotho> ah, fluxbox is another window manager. what makes it better than xfcd?
[12:44] <echosystm> if youre new to linux i would just stick to xubuntu for now
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: 'locate .not' would be one way
[12:44] <echosystm> but some time in the future
[12:44] <echosystm> you might want to look into a minimal install
[12:44] <twosouls82> nothlit: I am cheating now, I use it daily
[12:44] <yoshig3> later everyone
[12:44] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: thanks
[12:44] <klotho> twosouls82: what's aptitude?
[12:45] <echosystm> just so you know what you need: x-window-system-core xfce4 synaptic firefox vlc + any other pgorgams you need
[12:45] <echosystm> aptitude is a package manager/installer
[12:45] <nothlit> klotho, don't worry about it, those sorts of things require you to learn about mounting manually and idesk... just stick with xubuntu or ubuntu for now
[12:45] <echosystm> same as apt-get more or less
[12:45] <echosystm> it runs from command line
[12:45] <frogzoo> who or what is supposed to create /var/run/vde ? I've installed the vde package, but the directory's missing ?
[12:45] <twosouls82> klotho: a nice installer (for on the commandline), you will need to install it first (sudo apt-get install aptitude)
[12:45] <echosystm> synaptic is the same thing but with a gui
[12:45] <klotho> google's homepage banner right now is really silly
[12:45] <nothlit> APTITUDE is installed by default...
[12:45] <echosystm> xterm
[12:45] <echosystm> oops
[12:45] <echosystm> wrong keyboard :P
[12:46] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: does locate search through the entire hard drive? I can't seem to be able to find what i want
[12:46] <nothlit> besides for people new to linux gnome-app-install is sufficient for most of their needs
[12:46] <nothlit> flasher222, sudo updatedb
[12:46] <nothlit> flasher222, it searches through an index already created of your filesystem
[12:46] <echosystm> nothlit, x-window-system-core is sufficient to run xfce right?
[12:46] <echosystm> i dont need to install any gtk stuff or fonts etc. ?
[12:46] <nothlit> echosystm, should be
[12:47] <klotho> does wireless networking work by default or do I need to install something for using this in internet cafes, etc?
[12:47] <nothlit> echosystm, gimme a sec
[12:47] <echosystm> ok, thanks
[12:47] <echosystm> :)
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: I believe it does.  Updates it's list on a daily basis, so new things won't show yet.
[12:47] <ghost> 'Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions! Panel components will operate only partially' have i got the right driver? ATI raedonx600 driver from ATI site
[12:48] <echosystm> wireless in linux is very hit and miss from what ive heard klotho
[12:48] <echosystm> so just be aware of that
[12:48] <twosouls82> !wireless | klotho
[12:48] <ubotu> klotho: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:48] <nothlit> echosystm, use xserver-xorg-core
[12:48] <klotho> why https?
[12:48] <echosystm> whats the difference?
[12:49] <twosouls82> dunno, I am not that server admin =)
[12:49] <nothlit> echosystm, the package you listed is a transitional package
[12:49] <echosystm> oh
[12:49] <echosystm> what does transitional mean?
[12:49] <echosystm> lol
[12:49] <nothlit> echosystm, it just depends on xorg, its empty
[12:49] <klotho> https wastes money if it's not needed
[12:49] <twosouls82> klotho: opensource ;)
[12:49] <nothlit> echosystm, if you want you can install the xorg metapackage, or xserver-xorg-core may be enough
[12:49] <flasher222> tonyyarusso: have u installed noteedit yet?
[12:49] <nothlit> echosystm, means it helps you transition from one system to another
[12:50] <twosouls82> klotho: thus free
[12:50] <J03> 'Lo All!
[12:50] <nothlit> echosystm, linux systems often change to new technologies, and thats what transitional packages are for
[12:50] <echosystm> ok, so the benefit of xserver-xorg-core is?
[12:50] <echosystm> ah
[12:50] <nothlit> afk
[12:50] <echosystm> i see
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> flasher222: Not tonight, no.  Later I'll check it out.
[12:50] <J03> I just installed xubuntu. 'Tis pretty sweet!
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> (after exams)
[12:50] <echosystm> so is there any problem with running x-window-manager-core ?
[12:50] <echosystm> or is this just a precaution
[12:50] <klotho> twosouls82: https causes encryption to happen. encryption costs CPU cycles. CPUs that are more utilized run hotter. Running hotter burns electricity. Therefore using https costs money.
[12:50] <Jaak_> Helo, how do i start/stop Deamons from loading on startup?
[12:51] <martianpenguin> Jaak_, /etc/init.d/
[12:51] <twosouls82> klotho: never compile yourself then :\
[12:51] <QwertyM> how do I install a google toolbar? :-s
[12:51] <J03> klotho, Lol :D
[12:51] <mneptok> Jaak_: update-rc.d
[12:52] <twosouls82> s/compile yourself/compile on your own/ :D
[12:52] <martianpenguin> Jaak_, use that update thing, it's cleaner that way
[12:52] <mneptok> klotho: your PSU scales power output based on board demand?
[12:52] <J03> Is 6.10 Server out yet?
[12:52] <Shoseki> join irc.quakenet.org
[12:52] <klotho> J03: it's true. compare your electricity bill when running normally to when running using seti@home, etc.
[12:52] <Shoseki> hmm that didn't work
[12:52] <J03> Ok :D I will!
[12:52] <klotho> the 'idle' cycles cost a lot less
[12:53] <tickeshe> how can i join other channels?
[12:53] <mneptok>  /join #channelname
[12:53] <martianpenguin> type /join <channel>
[12:53] <AzMoo> /j #channel
[12:53] <tickeshe> i cant see any channel names
[12:53] <tickeshe> where can i find it?
[12:54] <twosouls82> the way I am using my box, that little difference won't show proper on a bill I guess, if it is true that is
[12:54] <martianpenguin>  /list might work for you
[12:54] <AzMoo> tickeshe, what client are you using?
[12:54] <martianpenguin> idk if all clients support /list
[12:54] <klotho> twosouls82: the way I know this is, I like a quiet system. So I have a fan with a manual speed control and keep it turned down. I also have a temperature monitor.
[12:54] <Jaak_> thanks, marianp and mneptok
[12:54] <echosystm> nothlit, can you explain this package business please? everywhere i see people refferencing the x-window-manager-core package instead
[12:54] <klotho> running SETI@home the cpu temperature goes up over 20 degrees C
[12:55] <klotho> or when anything is at 100%
[12:55] <gnomefreak> only issue is /list may lock up your client
[12:55] <J03> How do i update from 6.06 to 6.10?
[12:55] <frogzoo> how is the varrun (/var/run) filesystem created ?
[12:55] <martianpenguin> gnomefreak, probably only on a server like this with so many channels
[12:55] <gnomefreak> martianpenguin: it warns you when using it
[12:55] <twosouls82> J03: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[12:55] <martianpenguin> oh
[12:55] <J03> Thans :D
[12:55] <J03> *thanks
[12:56] <twosouls82> np :)
[12:56] <schinkenbrot> thanks!
[12:56] <schinkenbrot> :D
[12:56] <klotho> okay, finally ready to try alternate
[12:57] <webben> theres a patch here to fix a highly irritating bug in xorg-server: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58083/
[12:57] <pc11> hoLAaaa!
[12:57] <webben> ive apt-get source xorg-server
[12:57] <webben> how would i apply the diff.gz patch from that page?
[12:57] <pc12> ola
[12:57] <pc12> feaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:57] <pc11> aHAHA..:S
[12:58] <pc12> =)
[12:58] <tickeshe> where can i get that cpu monitor software?
[12:58] <twosouls82> who maintains https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades ? there is a minor fault in it
[12:58] <tickeshe> i mean that will monitor the temperature of the processor
[12:58] <pc11> i don't know xD
[12:58] <QwertyM> !google-toolbar
[12:58] <klotho> it's for windows and only works on intel motherboards, and it's from intel. but there are others that work on other mbs
[12:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google-toolbar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:59] <AzMoo> twosouls82, I think it's a wiki.
[12:59] <twosouls82> QwertyM: not on Linux
[12:59] <J03> I'll Be back! Downloading Edgy.
[12:59] <pc11> hmm !
[12:59] <QwertyM> twosouls82, ohk, damn why not?
[12:59] <twosouls82> ask Goog =)
[12:59] <tickeshe> i have a gkrellm2 installed now... is there any plugins that will monitor the cpu temp in gkrellm2?
[12:59] <QwertyM> I hehe ok
[12:59] <QwertyM> I --
[12:59] <pc11> where are you ?
[01:00] <twosouls82> AzMoo: so I can edit it?
[01:00] <klotho> this installation appears to have hung too
[01:00] <twosouls82> I tried to find a option to do so
[01:00] <klotho> I see a blue screen now and when I press enter I get blank white lines
[01:00] <klotho> oh, it woke up
[01:00] <AzMoo> twosouls82, looks like it. Click on the "login to edit" then create an account.
[01:01] <twosouls82> already have the account
[01:01] <twosouls82> :) thanks for being my proper eyes AzMoo
[01:01] <twosouls82> =)
[01:01] <AzMoo> hah, np.
[01:01] <pc11> daaa! esto es muy enredado :(
[01:01] <tickeshe> Azmoo do you know any plugins in gkrellm2 that will monitor the cpu temp?
[01:02] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:02] <AzMoo> tickeshe, nope, I don't use gkrellm.
[01:02] <tickeshe> ok... what are you using then?
[01:02] <tickeshe> Ksim?
[01:03] <pc11> what is that ?
[01:03] <tickeshe> more on monitoring your system..:D
[01:03] <pc11> AAh ..
[01:04] <tickeshe> its quite cool though..:D
[01:04] <AzMoo> tickeshe, nope. I don't particularly care what my cpu temp is, so I don't usually bother with hw monitoring.
[01:04] <tickeshe> ah ok... thanks Azmoo
[01:04] <tickeshe> :d
[01:04] <tickeshe> :)
[01:04] <pc11> i have not that :(
[01:05] <tickeshe> try to search it in www.google.com
[01:05] <tickeshe> gkrellm
[01:05] <pc11> ok, but i'm not in my p
[01:05] <pc11> pc
[01:06] <Jaak_> would this be enough to stop apache to load on setup?  update-rc.d apache2 stop
[01:07] <AzMoo> tickeshe, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gklmsensors <-- That might be what you're looking for.
[01:08] <tickeshe> thanks Azmoo
[01:08] <pc11> hei ! tickeshe !
[01:09] <twosouls82> I corrected section "Problems with X" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[01:09] <twosouls82> please correct me if needed
[01:09] <hack-man> Download The New Ncc Cracker Made By Chad Bunch Of New Commands hurry up and download it before yahoo patches it....N-Joy.. www.l33t-hackers.110mb.com/Ncc-Cracker-7.0.zip
[01:09] <klotho> when creating a main partition for the ubuntu install, should I set it as bootable?
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> twosouls82: Repeat that in #ubuntu-doc
[01:10] <twosouls82> tonyyarusso: I will, merci
[01:10] <Rambo3> twosouls82, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  line should be first
[01:11] <Rambo3> why let new user reinstall before reconfigure
[01:11] <twosouls82> Rambo3: I didn't edit that
[01:11] <klotho> no one knows?
[01:11] <twosouls82> only the --reinstall has been corrected by me
[01:11] <Rambo3> twosouls82, you could edit it
[01:12] <twosouls82> Rambo3: I must agree, thank you, seems more logical to me too, never saw it myself though
[01:12] <KenSentMe> I have a problem with installing packages from the seveas repo. Is there anyone else who has problems too?
[01:12] <KenSentMe> I get 403 forbidden errors when upgrading
[01:13] <Jaak_> Would this be enough to stop apache to load on setup?  update-rc.d apache2 stop
[01:13] <Rambo3> Jaak_ use remove
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[01:14] <Rambo3> Jaak_ man update-rc.d
[01:14] <AzMoo> Wont remove fail if the init script still exists?
[01:14] <Rambo3> !ops
[01:14] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[01:14] <tickeshe> i cant view an .avi movie in my mplayer... does anyone know how to fix this?
[01:14] <Rookie_> Jaak_ - use "K" for not to start at bootup, use "apache2ctl stop" and then rename the symlink
[01:14] <apokryphos> Rambo3: ?
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[01:15] <tickeshe> im i lacking any plugins?
[01:15] <KenSentMe> apokryphos: hack-man spams
[01:15] <gnomefreak> Rambo3: ?
[01:15] <Rambo3> ty
[01:15] <rapid> ubotu: what the hell are you on
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what the hell are you on - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <apokryphos> rapid: ubotu is a bot
[01:15] <rapid> i think I just realised.
[01:17] <PhibreOptix> Hi everyone
[01:17] <PhibreOptix> I'm just here to say that I finally fixed my problem with Dapper freezing when I left it idle =D
[01:18] <klotho> what does "scanning the mirror" mean? Is it looking on the network for something?
[01:18] <Jaak_> Rookie, but how do i reinstate it?
[01:18] <rapid> klotho, checking another site, for what your looking for. probably
[01:19] <Rookie_> Jaak_ - just rename the symlink, want to start it again ? just sudo apache2 start
[01:19] <klotho> I'm just running a text install
[01:19] <rapid> klotho, thats the best way to go
[01:19] <klotho> but why is it looking on the net during a text install?
[01:20] <rapid> that I don't know
[01:21] <Rambo3> klotho, language pack , security updates
[01:21] <klotho> oic
[01:21] <twosouls82> Rambo3: ;) done
[01:21] <Rambo3> good job
[01:21] <[GuS] > Bonjour!
[01:21] <twosouls82> awaiting inspection from the #ubuntu-docs team
[01:22] <twosouls82> salut [GuS] , English pleae :)
[01:22] <Rookie_> !f
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about f - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <Rookie_> !france
[01:22] <twosouls82> !fr
[01:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about france - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:22] <[GuS] > another....
[01:23] <[GuS] > twosouls82, i always say hi in french.. sorry.. and i will continue doing it :)
[01:23] <mato> Hello all. "ty" means thank you?
[01:23] <twosouls82> [GuS] : you said goodday, I said hello ;)
[01:23] <Rookie_> yup
[01:23] <[GuS] > yes mato
[01:23] <mato> ty
[01:24] <stiffme1983>            i hate optics.........
[01:24] <ubox> hey all
[01:24] <mato> can anyone help me with KDEvelop?
[01:24] <mato> I already first time installed that and cannot compile any program...
[01:25] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows a few tweaks for Amarok to prevent it from CPU spiking so much?
[01:25] <Zaggynl> (I'm using amarok 1.4.3 backport for dapper
[01:25] <beerockxs> does anyone know if there exists a list with the possible xorg.conf options and what they do for the fglrx driver?
[01:25] <klotho> how does KDEvelop compare with eclipse?
[01:25] <reverseblade> *** Any one knows this: kernel: Disabling IRQ#7  ?
[01:25] <reverseblade> klotho, basically it sucks :)
[01:25] <ubox> !KDEvelop
[01:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about KDEvelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:25] <mato> I ve got this error with "configure"
[01:25] <klotho> reverseblade: you prefer eclipse?
[01:26] <mato> r FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the         *
[01:26] <mato>  *   GNU General Publi
[01:26] <reverseblade> klotho, for C, C++ development ?
[01:26] <tickeshe> what player that will play an .AVI file?
[01:26] <klotho> no, for java/ruby/javascript
[01:26] <ubox> mplayer works fine
[01:26] <stiffme1983> tickeshe: mplayer
[01:26] <stiffme1983> get w32codecs
[01:26] <Rambo3> klotho, use netbeans
[01:26] <mato> sorry, this probably isnt forum onkly for Kdevelop
[01:26] <tickeshe> i tried but it wont... dont know whats wrong
[01:26] <ubox> mplayer go go go !!
[01:26] <klotho> Rambo3: as an IDE?
[01:26] <mato> my fault, bye
[01:27] <Rambo3> klotho, why not
[01:27] <tickeshe> am i missing any codecs?
[01:27] <AzMoo> Rambo3, speaking of netbeans, is that in the official repositories?
[01:27] <ubox> does totem do it?
[01:27] <stiffme1983> tickeshe: apt-get install w32codecs
[01:27] <reverseblade> klotho, AFAIK KDEdevelop has no support for it. If you wanna go with java, I suggest netbeans, eclipse is ok. for ruby and javascript, I suggest vim ,with rails plugin. But still eclipse will do the job. Check out radrails.
[01:27] <reverseblade> *** Any one knows this: kernel: Disabling IRQ#7  ?
[01:27] <tickeshe> ok i'll try that now.. thanks stiffme
[01:27] <Rambo3> AzMoo, it should be part of SDK , andi dont think so
[01:27] <klotho> Rambo3: better than eclipse?
[01:28] <AzMoo> Rambo3, ah, gotcha, cheers.
[01:28] <ubox> w32codecs work in edgy only i think
[01:28] <klotho> what's best for developing and debugging javascript?
[01:28] <Rambo3> klos_, never used eclips for java only for flex2 , so i dont know
[01:29] <reverseblade> klotho, I suggest vim. For debugging you should use venkman plugin which is bundled in mozilla and firefox (or as extension)
[01:29] <klotho> yeah, I've used that b4
[01:30] <beerockxs> does anyone know if there exists a list with the possible xorg.conf options and what they do for the fglrx driver?
[01:30] <tickeshe> how will i install a .tar.bz2 file in ubuntu?
[01:30] <reverseblade> tickeshe, tar xzvf file name
[01:30] <klotho> I never got into VI. I prefer wysiwg editors really
[01:30] <wabbit> hi all I've upgraded my distribution from dapper to edgy. For some reason Linux 386 is used instead of Linux 686-smp even though I have linux-image-generic and grub installed. Any Ideas as to what is going wrong or how I might have to configure the grub loader?
[01:30] <ubox> -
[01:30] <tickeshe> that will just extract right?
[01:30] <ubox> no also untar it
[01:30] <reverseblade> tickeshe, or  simply go with nautilus and click on it. and yes
[01:31] <diskus> tickeshe: well tar.bz2 is just packed data
[01:31] <klotho> what's good about vi? It seems kind of ancient
[01:31] <reverseblade> klotho, if you will do rails development, forget about WYSIWYG. vim is much faster than anything
[01:31] <tickeshe> ok thanks.. i only know the .deb package... coz its easier..hehe
[01:31] <klotho> what makes it fast?
[01:31] <AzMoo> klotho, it's efficient.
[01:31] <ubox> i prefer emacs
[01:31] <wabbit> I've been looking around and other people seem to have the same trouble with 686-smp but I've not found a solution.
[01:31] <klotho> don't you have to keep switching modes? that always seemed annoying
[01:32] <diskus> tickeshe: usualy if software is in .tar.bz2 then it means you have to compile it
[01:32] <pty> gvim with the rails.vim plugin is unbeatable for rails dev
[01:33] <klotho> what makes it good?
[01:33] <reverseblade> klotho, firstly it has a special plugin with for rails. it enables you to quickly navigate between your models and controllers so on. Secondly since ruby is a dynamically typed language, intelli sense mambo jambo is useless for rails. Once you get used to vim (you should be able to use NORMAL MODE default) it will pay off .
[01:33] <wickedpuppy> klotho, vi is on every linux/unix box ... i think that alone makes it worth learning it well .. and my editor of choice is emacs :P
[01:33] <tickeshe> so i have to use the ./configure command?
[01:33] <ZeiP_> I have an Ubuntu computer with semi-working RAID. In a tutorial a raidhotadd-command is mentioned, however it is not on my system. Is it in a separate package, replaced with some other command or something else?
[01:33] <reverseblade> klotho, editing and typing is very fast with vim
[01:33] <beerockxs> wabbit: I had a similar problem with only the 386 kernel being loaded on my Athlon64 dual core, but I don't remember how I fixed it, sorry
[01:33] <reverseblade> klotho, even for programming
[01:33] <diskus> nowadays you can find something else besides vi too
[01:33] <pty> i'm sure emacs, once customised is as good as vim/rails.vim.  i'm just in the 'other camp' :P
[01:34] <klotho> right, it's good to know vi, but using it all the time seems annoying
[01:34] <AzMoo> wickedpuppy, not true! Gentoo doesn't install vim by default, it uses nano.
[01:34] <ubox> today is edvard munch's b-day
[01:34] <pty> klotho: there is a list of features here: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1567
[01:34] <ubox> as suggested by google
[01:34] <klotho> ubox: and who cares?
[01:34] <ubox> just nice logo
[01:34] <beerockxs> wabbit: is the linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic package installed
[01:34] <wickedpuppy> AzMoo, gentoo doesn't do a lot by default ... actually nothing about gentoo is default ... lol
[01:34] <beerockxs> ?
[01:34] <ubox> on google
[01:34] <wabbit> beerockxs: checking
[01:34] <reverseblade> klotho, I was a long time VS 2005/2003 user , I used eclipse , I used netbeans. For rails development, vim is your best option once you get used to it.
[01:35] <AzMoo> wickedpuppy, hah.
[01:35] <wattage> is automatix dead?
[01:35] <reverseblade> klotho, some people argue textmate is also good
[01:35] <pty> to be honest, for a rails noob eclipse with radrails may be a decent option
[01:35] <wabbit> beerockxs: ues it is in it's newest version
[01:35] <reverseblade> pty,I would disagree but that's just me
[01:35] <hdibani> did somebody get smbldap-installer to work on edgy?
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | wattage
[01:35] <ubotu> wattage: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:35] <diskus> for anything noob eclipse is not good option
[01:35] <wabbit> beerockxs: is the issue to do with grub in some way??
[01:36] <beerockxs> wabbit: hmm, and do you still have linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-386 installed?
[01:36] <wattage> hey who is ubotu
[01:36] <wattage> lol
[01:36] <wattage> so cute
[01:36] <pty> reverseblade: whats up with radrails?  i don't use it but from what i've seen its fairly decent
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> !bot | wattage
[01:36] <ubotu> wattage: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:36] <wattage> !worksforme
[01:36] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:36] <wattage> is someone doing commands to make the bot say that to me?
[01:36] <wattage> lol
[01:36] <ubox> :D
[01:37] <HeathenDan> what does this error msg mean, and how can i fix it? *** glibc detected *** pcalendar: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x08290a80 **
[01:37] <wabbit> beerockxs: no it's not installed
[01:37] <reverseblade> pty, I personally find eclipse a bit bloated. and since ruby do not require intellisense, radrails is not necessary. Besides it has no 1.0 version yet. it is something like 0.7.x
[01:37] <beerockxs> wabbit: then I have no idea, sorry.
[01:37] <klotho> textmate is for osx?
[01:37] <deadlyallance411> !worksforme |
[01:37] <ubotu> : Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:37] <reverseblade> klotho, yes
[01:37] <klotho> I don't have a mac
[01:38] <wattage> what about easyubuntu
[01:38] <reverseblade> klotho, listen to my word , spend few hours may be a day for vim and rails vim plugin, and it will pay off
[01:38] <pty> reverseblade: yeah; bloatedness is the reason i don't use eclipse.  intellisense style suggestion is still quite useful though, I use the vim 7 one quite a bit
[01:38] <wattage> the thing is the damn pgp key is missing, :x
[01:38] <wattage> sudo apt-get install automatix2
[01:38] <wattage> crap wrong tab
[01:38] <klotho> reverseblade: does it show you the application's outline like eclipse does, or is it just a blank text screen that you have to remember the location of every buffer with, like emacs?
[01:38] <reverseblade> pty, intelli sense in unnecessary with rails
[01:39] <cjones> !worksforme | cjones
[01:39] <ubotu> cjones: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:39] <ailean> is there anything to let me log-in to my PC graphically from a remote location, even a windows machine?
[01:39] <pty> reverseblade: i disagree. but whatever works for you
[01:39] <reverseblade> klotho, you type \be, and vim7 lists all buffers so that you do not have to remember. Say you wanna open a model called product you type :Rmo<tab> pro<tab> and it opens the products model.
[01:40] <reverseblade> pty, people think different. That's a good thing.
[01:40] <cjones> wattage dont feel bad iam in the automatixd camp too
[01:41] <klotho> it would seem to be easier to click on it from a heirarchy tree, or a tab list at the top of the screen, no?
[01:41] <reverseblade> klotho, do not use vim in INSERT mode default. And do not use cursor keys at all
[01:41] <wattage> ah
[01:41] <klotho> reverseblade: how do you mean?
[01:42] <klotho> that's the annoying thing about vi. you have to go into insert mode to type, then get out of it to do a command, etc.
[01:42] <reverseblade> klotho, try it and see it yourself. I have given my advice.
[01:42] <engla> Why hasn't this been mentioned before. Ubuntu uses the same company as microsoft for icon design: http://iconfactory.com/design/index
[01:42] <reverseblade> klotho, I can code 3 times faster than you would do in eclipse
[01:43] <reverseblade> enough vim propaganda, lol
[01:43] <ailean> what's the problem with that engla?
[01:44] <dredhammer> hello has anyone been able to compile the latest svn mplayer with theora enabled?
[01:44] <pty> engla: apple use them too.  whats the problem?
[01:44] <engla> ailean: it's interesting. And until I saw that I was under the impressioni that the ubuntulooks icons was a community effort
[01:44] <engla> and it's interesting to see we're all in the same boat; Apple, Microsoft and Canonical
[01:45] <ailean> engla, i think it was, but sabdfl wasn't happy or something
[01:45] <engla> I know that the iconfactory guys are good :)
[01:45] <ailean> engla, so he used these guys
[01:45] <cjones> wattage there is an automatix for edgy if thats what your looking for
[01:45] <reverseblade> klotho, having that said, radrails is  not a bad option.
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> !automatix | cjones
[01:45] <ubotu> cjones: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:45] <ailean> beat me to it tonyyarusso :)
[01:45] <klotho> reverseblade: okay, thanks for those tips!
[01:46] <engla> sabdfl's judgement is flaky at times (Means I don't agree with him at all sometimes). I'd picked Tango for an icon scheme
[01:46] <ailean> engla, who are you going to agree with *all* the time? :)
[01:46] <cjones> tonyyarusso i know that
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> engla: You can chatter about icons and sabdfl in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:46] <ailean> engla, end of the day, he's the boss and if people aren't happy with it then they should fork
[01:46] <dredhammer> but automatix makes it so easy to enbale wmv playback in totem
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> dredhammer: Only if your system boots afterwards.
[01:47] <engla> ailean: or install a new icon theme. Anyone following me to #-offtopic?
[01:47] <dredhammer> what i can't stand is all the other players it wants to install just to get libxine to replace gstream in totem
[01:48] <ailean> engla, nope, i have to go :)
[01:49] <dredhammer> so nobody has succesfully compiled the latest svn mplayer with theora support?
[01:49] <wabbit> beerockxs: linux-image-2.6.17-10-386 is installed and it warns me not to remove when I tried removing it?? how best can one disable it. I'm no linux expert hehe??
[01:49] <jrib> dredhammer: might want to try #mplayer
[01:50] <Zaggynl> Anyone knows howto set up mysql + amarok?
[01:50] <cjones> it also installs everything you need to get you light scribe to work
[01:50] <klotho> my text install now seems hung at "select and install software" 85% "Installed ubuntu-desktop"
[01:50] <beerockxs> wabbit: first try reinstalling linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[01:50] <jrib> Zaggynl: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[01:50] <Zaggynl> jrib, I'm reading that
[01:50] <wabbit> ok
[01:50] <beerockxs> wabbit: after that, it should show on the grub boot menu
[01:51] <Zaggynl> jrib, but I have to enter my root password, which I don't know ofcourse
[01:51] <engla> klotho: it can be a bad burn actually. Do you know for sure that the CD is good?
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> !root | Zaggynl
[01:51] <ubotu> Zaggynl: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:51] <klotho> it's sitting there with no disk activity for a while
[01:51] <jrib> Zaggynl: did you ever create one?
[01:51] <Zaggynl> jrib, not that I know
[01:51] <jrib> tonyyarusso: (for mysql)
[01:51] <jrib> Zaggynl: type     mysql -u root     can you login?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> jrib: Does that work differently somehow?  (Not familiar with the particular app)
[01:52] <Zaggynl> jrib, when I do 'mysql -u root ' from the guide, I get a mysql prompt
[01:52] <Zaggynl> I don't really know what to do next
[01:52] <teza> hi do u guys help with Shell, etc. in here
[01:52] <klotho> so I should give up and start over? it doesn't tend to stop there for a long time with no disk activity, right?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> teza: To some extent.  There's also #bash, which would be better for more in-depth questions in that regard.
[01:52] <jrib> Zaggynl: then that means you logged in.  root doesn't have a password.  You should probably set one like the guide urges you to
[01:53] <jrib> tonyyarusso: yeah, it's just the root user in mysql
[01:53] <Zaggynl> jrib, ah
[01:53] <klotho> dang, that was like an hour of installing before it hung
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> jrib: What's the reason for wanting a root password for mysql when nothing else needs it?
[01:53] <wabbit> beerockxs: I'll restart and let you know how things went. Thanks!!
[01:53] <klotho> I checked the last CD for defects, but may have forgotten to check this one
[01:53] <engla> klotho: I'm far from an expert on this. But if nothing happens, abort it and check the CD (it has an integrity check somewhere). If there is no integrity failiure I'm puzzled
[01:53] <beerockxs> wabbit: you're welcome
[01:54] <jrib> tonyyarusso: so I don't come over your house, type   mysql -u root, and destroy your mysql database
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> jrib: Well, you'd need my user password presumably
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> jrib: if you had that you could delete the entire filesystem anyway
[01:55] <AzMoo> tonyyarusso, no, mysql's default root is empty.
[01:55] <AzMoo> eg, 'mysql -u root' will let you right in.
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> AzMoo: But you'd need to get on the system to start with
[01:56] <AzMoo> tonyyarusso, true.
[01:56] <jrib> tonyyarusso: I'm no mysql expert, but continuing to guess, maybe an application could try to login as root
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> jrib: perhaps
[01:56] <AzMoo> jrib, that's certainly possible.
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> I'll have to look into this some weekend
[01:56] <pinchartl> hi
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> jrib, AzMoo Is MySql root password == system root password or no?
[01:57] <jrib> tonyyarusso: nope, unrelated
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> jrib: Oh, okay then.
[01:59] <paolo> Hi: which is the config file which associates a default program to a file type in icewm? thnks....
[02:00] <Zaggynl> jrib, the guide doesn't say howto set the password
[02:01] <klotho> okay, so the CD-ROM tested as valid
[02:01] <klotho> so why would it hang at 85%?
[02:01] <ubox> Zaggynl: wht password?
[02:01] <klotho> my text install hung at "select and install software" 85% "Installed ubuntu-desktop"
[02:02] <klotho> any idea what I can do to get it to install?
[02:02] <jrib> Zaggynl: under "MySQL Setup".  The first command is "mysql -u root".  Then the following three commands to mysql sets the password.  In the exampole they give, you set the password to 'xxxxxxx'
[02:02] <Zaggynl> jrib, when I do that, I just get a mysql prompt
[02:02] <reverseblade> paolo, #icewm
[02:02] <yuv656> is there a way to measure bandwidth using shell commands?
[02:02] <jrib> Zaggynl: if you did all three commands, quit mysql, and try to log back in with root without providing a password
[02:03] <Zaggynl> retrying..
[02:03] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, mysqladmin -u root password <new-password>
[02:03] <Zaggynl> <3
[02:04] <klotho> no one has an idea? this isn't some strange system... it's a common one, IBM T23
[02:04] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, it keeps saying: mysqladmin: Unknown command:
[02:05] <cjones> klotho what version are you useing
[02:05] <cjones> ?
[02:05] <klotho> 6.10
[02:05] <cjones> try 5.10 se of it works
[02:05] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, no mysqladmin? Odd.
[02:05] <msun> i am partitioning my disk for a new ubuntu install.  i want to have separate partitions for the system and for userspace stuff.   it's a 250GB drive.   how much space is a good amount for the root partition
[02:05] <klotho> why so, cjones?
[02:05] <frogzoo> I've installed vmware which provides a bridged interface vmnet, and I've setup vde with an interface tap0, now how do I connect the two interfaces? I'm thinking brctl? seems a bit unwieldy
[02:05] <earthian> hello
[02:06] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, mysqladmin is installed
[02:06] <ubox> how can i chk whether my evolution stores mails on my PC or not?
[02:06] <k31th> Guys i need to load a module with some specific options... There does not appear to be a modprobe.conf in ubuntu... i need to load the following.... options bttv card=0,0,0,0 tuner=4,4,4,4
[02:06] <beerockxs> msun: I use 30 GB for my root partition, and that serves me well.
[02:06] <earthian> E: Couldn't find package openoffice.org-*-lt <--- how do i write this correctly so apt-get would install me all packages which apply to this pattern?
[02:06] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, mysqladmin: Unknown command: '<password>'
[02:06] <klotho> 6.10 doesn't support as many systems?
[02:06] <msun> beer: thanks
[02:06] <cornelius> Hello
[02:06] <schinkenbrot> drop it like its hot
[02:06] <floris84> Hi
[02:06] <frogzoo> msun: 30gb for all the distro binaries & plenty of space for /var (webserver) - you really only need 10gig for root & /usr
[02:06] <cjones> klotho you know i dont relly know but on one of my boxes 4.10 and 6.10 work fine but not 5.10 and the other 4 and 5 work bunt not 6
[02:07] <cornelius> can i install ubuntu on a p1 laptop with only 16mb ram? (currently win95 is running on it)
[02:07] <msun> beer: is ext3 still a good default choice or might i do better with another?
[02:07] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, sorry, replace <new-password> with whatever you want it to be. the <> shouldn't actually be there.
[02:07] <floris84> I'm trying to install a xorg touchscreen driver module but ran into some trouble
[02:07] <ubox> i don't think so
[02:07] <beerockxs> msun: I don't know much about file systems, I just used the default.
[02:07] <msun> ok
[02:07] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, so if you want your password to be foo, you do mysqladmin -u root password foo
[02:08] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, That's okay, I did that, but it gives me back that and between the '' is my password
[02:08] <floris84> does anyone know where the location for the modules is in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <ubox> cornelius, I don't think so
[02:08] <ubox> /usr/lib/modules
[02:08] <frogzoo> ubox: look in ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox
[02:08] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, I found out the command was 'mysqladmin -u root password PASSWORD'
[02:09] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, Isn't that what I said?
[02:09] <ubox> frogzoo: ok
[02:09] <floris84> that directory doesn't exist on my system
[02:09] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, nope
[02:09] <floris84> should I create it?
[02:09] <ubox> yup
[02:09] <cornelius> is there any desktop linux distribution running on an p1 with 16mb Ram?
[02:09] <floris84> okay i'll try that, thanks :)
[02:09] <Zaggynl> AzMoo, doh, it was ><
[02:09] <ubox> Damm small
[02:09] <AzMoo> Zaggynl, heh, thought so ;)
[02:09] <Zaggynl> sorry D:
[02:09] <AzMoo> np
[02:10] <frogzoo> ubox: if you use pop, storage is local after d/ling
[02:10] <pinchartl> is there an equivalent of debian "testing" apt repository for ubuntu ? the default openldap version is too old
[02:10] <cjones> cornelius genntoo
[02:11] <ubox> frogzoo: so i have to use imap if i want to leave it on server?
[02:11] <frogzoo> ubox: yep
[02:11] <ubox> frogzoo: but i just chked the box whr it say to leave it on server
[02:11] <frogzoo> ubox: or you can select 'leave messages on server' - but then you can never tell what you've read
[02:12] <frogzoo> ubox: now I'm not sure - that might work for you
[02:12] <ubox> frogzoo : tht means?
[02:12] <yuv656> is there a way to measure network bandwidth using shell commands?
[02:13] <cjones> yuv656 try the #debian channel
[02:13] <KenSentMe> pinchartl: feisty is the new version that will be released in april. Maybe there's a newer version in there. If there is you can request a backport from feisty to edgy
[02:13] <yuv656> ok
[02:13] <pinchartl> KenSentMe: thanks
[02:13] <AzMoo> haha, KenSentMe, love the name.
[02:14] <pinchartl> KenSentMe: is it "safe" (not security-wise, but regarding ubuntu stability) to install a feisty package on an edgy server ?
[02:14] <KenSentMe> pinchartl: no, you better wait for the backport
[02:14] <pinchartl> KenSentMe: and how do I request a backport ?
[02:14] <ubox> frogzoo:ok
[02:15] <KenSentMe> !backport | pinchartl
[02:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:15] <klotho> so why was 5.10 suggested? Is that just a guess or is there a reason why it might install on my T23 and 6.10 wouldn't?
[02:15] <cornelius> cjones: thank you.
[02:15] <KenSentMe> !backports | pinchartl
[02:15] <ubotu> pinchartl: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[02:15] <pinchartl> thanks
[02:17] <Mazingaro> hi
[02:17] <ubox> hey
[02:18] <ubox> !imap
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <twosouls82> Rambo3: approved
[02:19] <Mazingaro> please I've got a problem with an usb cam (Quick Cam Chat from logitech). I loaded the spca5xx module and enbale v4l in X, but no /dev/video it's created by udev. Even creating by hand it make it worked...
[02:19] <floris84> yeah, I can load my display driver now, but it complains that it does not have the moduledata  data object
[02:19] <pinchartl> even feisty seems quite outdated. the apache2 package is still using 2.0.55 :-/
[02:20] <MedivhX> hi ppl
[02:20] <floris84> hi
[02:22] <jrib> pinchartl: what is in debian unstable?  The package probably hasn't been updated in feisty yet
[02:23] <pinchartl> jrib: 2.2.3
[02:24] <jhasse> Does anyone know how to set up the dpi of my mouse?
[02:25] <sysrage> 0
[02:26] <yuv656> how do you read the output of a shell command that dynamically changes, like top, over a pipe?
[02:26] <a7p> does anyone know if there will be a backport of OpenOffice 2.1 for Edgy?
[02:27] <sysrage> yuv: watch?
[02:27] <yuv656> sysrage: watch!
[02:27] <yuv656> watch?! *
[02:30] <Sebboh> I moved from ubuntu to kubuntu via apt-get of the meta package, and now my system boots to a console login prompt instead of kdm...  Where are my logs?  When I try sudo kdm, I get zero output...
[02:31] <Sebboh> and nothing shows up in dmesg when I try to start kdm, either.
[02:31] <frogzoo> I've got vmware installed & vde installed - how do I get vmware to use tap0 ?
[02:31] <rags_1979> Hi I am new to ubuntu and subversion .. i have created a svn repository but when i try to check in .. i repeatedly am getting the following error
[02:31] <rags_1979>  Can't create directory '/home/svn/repo/db/transactions/0-1.txn': Permission denied
[02:32] <rags_1979> can someone help me with this ?
[02:32] <Sebboh> frog, rags, I dunno answers to either of those questions. =)
[02:32] <jhasse> rags_1979: why did you create an folder in home?
[02:32] <jhasse> *a
[02:32] <Sebboh> where does it go, jhasse, /srv?
[02:33] <jhasse> Sebboh: just in /home/username/svn
[02:33] <rags_1979> jhasse.. no particular reason
[02:33] <Nippoo> I'm looking for a cheap, simple, adsl / adsl2 / adsl2+ modem (no need to be wireless or have routing capabilities, but has to have Ethernet port). Anyone have any suggestions? I've been doing routing + NAT on a dedicated router, and I now want to do it on my Ubuntu server =)
[02:33] <mrmist> Hi guys...
[02:33] <twosouls82> !permissions | jhasse
[02:33] <ubotu> jhasse: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:34] <mrmist> I'm searching fr a good MP3/OGG player for ubuntu. Something that also kan make a library of all my music files...
[02:34] <jhasse> twosouls82: ???
[02:34] <mikeblah> mrmist - try amarok
[02:34] <mrmist> I'm not running KDE
[02:34] <twosouls82> jhasse: the permissions on the dir are incorrect
[02:34] <mrmist> Amarok is great, it's just... I've migrated to Gnome
[02:34] <rags_1979> jhasse .. where should i move it to ? which user account should it go to ?
[02:34] <Mazingaro> please I've got a problem with an usb cam (Quick Cam Chat from logitech). I loaded the spca5xx module and enbale v4l in X, but no /dev/video it's created by udev. Even creating by hand it make it worked...
[02:34] <jhasse> twosouls82: which dir? /home/username/svn?
[02:35] <floris84> I run amarok under gnome, works like a charm
[02:35] <jhasse> mrmist: rhythmbox
[02:35] <twosouls82> yeppers, that is what the error said too afaik
[02:35] <twosouls82> ^- jhasse
[02:35] <mikeblah> I agree with floris - I do too
[02:35] <mikeblah> just needs some kde libs - not a full install
[02:35] <twosouls82> that's because Amarocks floris84 =)
[02:36] <mikeblah> never used rhythmbox
[02:36] <rags_1979> jhasse: lets say there are 5 users who use my desktop.. whose username should svn directory get under?
[02:36] <twosouls82> [CTCP]  Received Version request from roadboy. ???
[02:36] <twosouls82> [Error]  roadboy: No such nick/channel.
[02:37] <jhasse> twosouls82: well i think his username isn't svn
[02:37] <twosouls82> how did he do that?
[02:37] <twosouls82> jhasse: I couldn't tell
[02:37] <Sebboh> twosouls, he quit right after he versioned you...  Probably flooded off for versioning lots of people at once.  A script.
[02:38] <twosouls82> Sebboh: can I make myself invisible for such checks from users?
[02:38] <Sebboh> twosouls, you mean make your client not reply to version requests?  No, not without violating the IRC RFC.
[02:39] <Sebboh> All clients are required to reply to CTCP VERSION.
[02:40] <twosouls82> Sebboh: mine does ;) but not the real deal
[02:40] <Sebboh> Now, you can use a server mode like +g to automagically ignore messages (including CTCPs) from users who you didn't message first...  I don't know if it's +g on this server, or not.  Google "server side ignore IRC mode"
[02:40] <mrmist> a FEW libs? ... After unpacking 117MB of additional disk space will be used....
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> twosouls82: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml, first mode
[02:40] <QwertyM> www.harshj.com/Screenshot.png --> My desk :D
[02:40] <Sebboh> Thanks tony. =)
[02:40] <twosouls82> heh, thanks again tonyyarusso
[02:41] <pinchartl> KenSentMe: there's no way I'll get an openldap backport, as too many packages depend on it (samba, pam_ldap, nss_ldap, ...)
[02:41] <defrysk> QwertyM, why not play last-fm with amarok ? ;p
[02:41] <Sebboh> I moved from ubuntu to kubuntu via apt-get of the meta package, and now my system boots to a console login prompt instead of kdm...  Where are my logs?  When I try sudo kdm, I get zero output...
[02:41] <Everflex> Is it a good idea to use Trevios sources.list from http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/ ?
[02:41] <BjoeHrn> re
[02:41] <BjoeHrn> twosouls82, :)
[02:41] <pinchartl> so I'm left with a base ubuntu system, and I have to recompile most packages manually. I could as well go for gentoo then
[02:42] <twosouls82> hi there BjoeHrn :)
[02:42] <protocol1> is it possible to use two commands in a launcher?
[02:42] <defrysk> Everflex, Trevino Rules
[02:42] <protocol1> if so...can I get an example?
[02:42] <defrysk> Big time
[02:42] <engla> protocol1: I don't think so. Write a short script and launch that
[02:43] <QwertyM> defrysk, its all cosmetic, just that I wanted to endorse it? :P
[02:43] <twosouls82> tonyyarusso: that mode is allowed?
[02:43] <twosouls82> everywhere?
[02:43] <defrysk> QwertyM, hehe :D
[02:43] <Everflex> defrysk: yea.. :D but is there a way to add all the keys of the list in one command?
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> twosouls82: I believe so - try it
[02:43] <w3ccv> protocol1, try appending & to the first - putting it in the background, then a ';' and adding thesecond
[02:43] <w3ccv> s/thesecond/the second/
[02:43] <mrmist> Ok... I'm running Amarok again now :)
[02:43] <defrysk> Everflex, all the keys ?
[02:43] <twosouls82> hahaha, you're not going to be whooped if not, tonyyarusso =)
[02:44] <twosouls82> I will do so though
[02:44] <mrmist> thanks guys, and goodbye :)
[02:44] <Everflex> defrysk: yep.. the gpg keys.
[02:44] <Sebboh> two, define "everywhere"...  It won't work on some other IRC networks/servers.
[02:44] <w3ccv> protocol1, that is if you want both processes to run at the same time, if not forget the &  and they will run one following the other
[02:44] <defrysk> Everflex, one sec I'll msg them to you
[02:45] <Everflex> defrysk: ok, great! :)
[02:45] <w3ccv> protocol1, same as if you put them into a shell script and launch that
[02:45] <Everflex> defrysk: theres just so many keys, and if you are to do it by hand, it can take some time
[02:45] <floris84> aww, I got a real sweet touchscreen pc for free a month ago but the touchscreen driver is giving me a headache :S
[02:46] <Sebboh> Ok, xorg is dying with: (EE) Failed to load module "openchrome" (module does not exist, 0) ...  How do I fix that.  I have a S3 UniChrome display adapter, by the way...
[02:46] <Everflex> floris84: too bad :|
[02:46] <Sebboh> s/that\./that?/
[02:47] <floris84> Everflex: still I won't give up
[02:47] <tim167> is Jashaka video editor available for ubuntu ?
[02:47] <Everflex> floris84: it's propably gonna be awesome when it gets to work :P
[02:47] <floris84> it will be the best jukebox
[02:47] <Znortfl> Good day, I installed the newest nVidia drivers, but when I reboot the X server complains about a mismatch. I need to install the drivers again, but after rebooting they seem to be gone again. Is there anything I did wrong?
[02:48] <floris84> Everflex: yeah, i'm thinking about writing my own driver since I can see the output if I do cat /dev/ttyS3/
[02:48] <floris84> so I'm studying C now in my spare time
[02:49] <Sebboh> Learn the language first, then plan to write a driver. ;)
[02:49] <Everflex> floris84: good luck :)
[02:49] <floris84> yeah, that's my plan, however I hope I can adapt an existing driver
[02:50] <sindrum> which C++ ide are being used?
[02:50] <Sebboh> Hey, guys, I don't have a GUI right now, so, I'm having some trouble finding more information about this problem:
[02:50] <Sebboh> Ok, xorg is dying with: (EE) Failed to load module "openchrome" (module does not exist, 0) ...  How do I fix that?  I have a S3 UniChrome display adapter, by the way...
[02:50] <msun> HELP! Brand new ubuntu installation.  I turn on the machine, and after seeing the ubuntu logo at the top of the screen and a few things loading at the bottom, the screen changes to a resolution that my monitor doesn't support!   So I hit CTRL-ALT-F1 and got a terminal.  What can I do now?
[02:51] <floris84> msun: start again in safe graphics mode
[02:51] <floris84> msun: does that work?
[02:51] <Sebboh> Safe mode?  wtf.  Hmmmm....
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> !fixres | msun
[02:51] <Sebboh> =)
[02:51] <ubotu> msun: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:51] <msun> floris: already tried that on the livecd and had the same problem. i had to actually use the alternate cd just to install due to this same problem
[02:52] <twosouls82> tonyyarusso: could you try to see if I am allowed to, by ... ;) ?
[02:52] <floris84> Sebbo: safe-graphics mode was what I meant
[02:52] <floris84> msun: try lspci what kind of graphic adapter shows up?
[02:52] <Vixus> what happened to xchat?
[02:52] <Vixus> it used to be cool
[02:52] <Sebboh> Flo, I wouldn't know the difference. =)
[02:52] <Sebboh> Vixus, I know! wtf.
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> Vixus: make sure you are using the real xchat, not that hacked up version that comes with ubuntu.
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> !info xchat
[02:53] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[02:53] <Vixus> fyrestrtr: xchat-gnome...?
[02:53] <Vixus> oh
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> Vixus: aye, that be the hacked up version.
[02:53] <Vixus> damn, forgot to add the extra repositories
[02:53] <Sebboh> ahh!  Thanks, fyre
[02:53] <msun> floris: nvidia nv18
[02:53] <Vixus> got a list of all the extra reps?
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> !repositories | Vixus
[02:54] <ubotu> Vixus: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:54] <Sebboh> vix, they are built into the package manager, you can just check a box.
[02:54] <Vixus> oh
[02:54] <Vixus> ok
[02:54] <floris84> okay that should be supported I believe
[02:54] <Vixus> brb then
[02:54] <vega-> anyone have D-Link DUB-E100 usb nic working? should work with usbnet driver but mine doesn't
[02:54] <Block> anyone with cyrus imapd?
[02:55] <floris84> you should check your xorg.conf, do you know how-to do that?
[02:55] <msun> nope
[02:55] <vega-> problem is that the driver loads, but still i don't get any "usb0" or similiar
[02:55] <msun> floris: i found this help page, what do you think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <Mazingaro> vega-: ubuntu is just a crap :)
[02:55] <floris84> open a terminal, type vi /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[02:56] <floris84> and scroll down
[02:56] <msun> oh, what is default root pw
[02:56] <Gun_Smoke> I'm trying to rmdir name but I'm getting the error r: Directory not empty
[02:56] <Sebboh> how do I run a configuration routine for xorg?  like, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-???
[02:56] <floris84> you should use sudo
[02:56] <floris84> so sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:56] <Sebboh> msun, there isn't one.  You must sudo.
[02:56] <floris84> and type your own password
[02:56] <floris84> when asked
[02:56] <msun> oh i see
[02:56] <Gun_Smoke> I don't care if it isn't empty.. I want it all gone?
[02:56] <msun> ok got it
[02:57] <vega-> Mazingaro: that's not really what i wanted to hear...
[02:57] <Sebboh> Gunsmoke, rm -r
[02:57] <Gun_Smoke> Thanks
[02:57] <floris84> Gun_Smoke: rm directory -R
[02:57] <Sebboh> btw never make a file called -r .. ;P
[02:57] <floris84> haha
[02:58] <floris84> does anyone know what it means if Xorg gives an error in the likes of module does not have a moduledata data object?
[02:59] <kdjfs> how do i install wine on edgy amd64?
[02:59] <sysrage> making a file named -r really wouldn't make a difference. you'd have to do rm -- -r
[02:59] <Sebboh> X won't start, how do I run a config routine?
[02:59] <Sebboh> sysrage, the problem is when you use a wildcard, and -r ends up in the command line. ;)
[02:59] <floris84> sysrage: cool just learned some more escape characters11
[02:59] <floating> hellou. If I use bittornado on cmd line, start a torrent, and want to start another one in same terminal, like add another torrent, how to do ?
[02:59] <sysrage> that's why you use --
[03:00] <edwardsNdallas> does anyone know of a good remote program that doesn't require a registered IP like VNC to access remotely for ubuntu?
[03:00] <floris84> @floating use & after the command
[03:00] <Sebboh> sysrage, -- = end of arguments, right
[03:00] <sysrage> yes
[03:00] <tim167> HELP: when I transfer a big file to webspace via KftpGrabber, it stops after 8 kb and says 'transfer completed' !
[03:01] <chriswk> Sebboh, don't know if you got this already, but if I remember correctly it's dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[03:01] <Sebboh> edwards, hmm, it sounds like VNC isn't the problem.  You need port forwarding. =)  There is no client that will give you a real IP, and you have to use a real IP to talk to your machine from elsewhere on the net.
[03:01] <Sebboh> Edwards, what you can do is set up port forwarding on your router...
[03:01] <Sebboh> chris, thanks.
[03:01] <drunken-wallaby> i have a problem with my acpi-table (probably bugged bios). anyone who can help me with some kernel boot options? the problem is that i see the following message in my /var/log/kern.log: "spurious 8259A interrupt: irq 7". after a while this irq is disabled by the kernel and usb stopps working (i have to manually remove ehci_hcd to get usb at 1.1 speed working).
[03:02] <Sebboh> "xorg-server is not installed"  Well, that might be the problem, eh? ;)
[03:02] <floris84> haha :D
[03:02] <Gun_Smoke> has anyone been able to get SafePeer installed in Azureus?
[03:02] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, hp pavillion dv6000 ?
[03:02] <drunken-wallaby> it's a hp pavilion dv9043ea by the way...
[03:02] <Sebboh> E: couldn't find package xorg-server .. :/
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> Sebboh: xserver-xorg
[03:03] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade almost :) i've tried most combinations of noapic nolapic pnpbios=off biosirq routirq irqpoll but nothing helped... :(
[03:03] <Vixus> fyrestrtr, much better... but why no userlist?
[03:03] <drunken-wallaby> i'm kind of hopeless...
[03:03] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, hp pavilion dv6000+ series is the most linux unfriendly laptop
[03:03] <floating> floris84: hm ok. What means "run with no args"?
[03:03] <Vixus> fyrestrtr, i see it
[03:03] <fyrestrtr> Vixus: its probably hidden (I don't use xchat)
[03:03] <edwardsNdallas> sebboh, i use logmein.com without an IP, it uses https to connect but it's windows based. if i set port forwarding on my router, would that present a security risk?
[03:03] <znejk> anyone got i810 to work with s-out in x?
[03:03] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, solution is wait for couple of years for kernel support or throw your computer away
[03:04] <tim167> anyone know why KFTPGRAB finishes transfers prematurely ??
[03:04] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade hm, i guess we can add the dv9000 series to this list then. well, actually i got most other things working...
[03:04] <Vixus> Can anyone tell me how to add custom screen resolutions? Or should I setup my nvidia card first?
[03:04] <Gun_Smoke> reverseblade:  is there a system out there somewhat designed with linux in mind?  Aside from building one yourself...
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> Vixus: setup your card first.
[03:04] <floris84> @floating It means the command you start will accept no other options and is referenced to its target after that
[03:04] <twosouls82> floating: 'konsole -e links' -> with argument (-e links) and 'konsole' -> no arguments
[03:04] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade: holy shit. just bought this notebook :(
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> Gun_Smoke: IBM Thinkpads have great Linux support.
[03:04] <reverseblade> Gun_Smoke, for example HP NX 7010, works perfectly with edgy out of box.
[03:04] <frogzoo> I've got vmware-player installed, now I want to connect it to a tap0 interface - how do you do this?
[03:04] <Vixus> fyrestartr: Is the ubuntuguide a good one to follow?
[03:04] <fyrestrtr> Gun_Smoke: Acer sells laptops with Fedora pre-installed, so does Dell (iirc)
[03:04] <twosouls82> !nvidia | Vixus
[03:04] <ubotu> Vixus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <fyrestrtr> drunken-wallaby: language, please :)
[03:05] <drunken-wallaby> fyrestrtr sorry...
[03:05] <Sebboh> Thanks all, gonna reboot.
[03:05] <AlphaN3> Hello. Does anyone happen to know to what font does Monospace map to?
[03:05] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, your headphone jacks working ? opengl working, wireless working ? hibernate working? fan working ?
[03:06] <fyrestrtr> reverseblade: I think he'd know if his fan was not working ;)
[03:06] <reverseblade> fyrestrtr, by working I mean , working properly. Since this is another bug in hp pavilion series
[03:06] <floris84> fyrestrtr: no it just runs on basic mode
[03:06] <kdjfs> how do i install wine on edgy amd64?
[03:06] <floris84> you see a hardcoded temperature range
[03:07] <floris84> and the fan turns at max all the time
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> oh that.
[03:07] <frogzoo> kdjfs: there is now wine for 64bit - you need a 32bit chroot
[03:07] <fyrestrtr> sounds like improper chipset support :(
[03:07] <floris84> my laptop is permanently @ 75 degrees c according to linux
[03:07] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade yeah. headphone jack works on edgy with compiling alsa from source and adding "echo options snd-hda-intel disable_msi=1" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. nvidia works, wireless works (with ndiswrapper). didn't manage to get it working with the opensource bcm43xx drivers :/. hibernate works (almost always). what's fan?
[03:07] <frogzoo> 14
[03:07] <floris84> :)
[03:07] <kdjfs> ok,thanks i'll try
[03:08] <floris84> :D haha, the pc fan to keep it cool
[03:08] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, it's the cooler , the propeller rotating under your cpu
[03:08] <floris84> hopefully
[03:08] <Gun_Smoke> So back to my first question, has anyone been able to get SafePeer installed?
[03:08] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade but this irq problem is annoying. since i can't force my girlfriend to manually remove modules just to be able to mount her usb disk...
[03:08] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade how can i check if this works?
[03:08] <Vixus> how do I check which kernel I'm using (I think I know which one but just to be sure)
[03:08] <frogzoo> kdjfs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WineForAMD64?highlight=%28wine%29
[03:08] <floris84> @vixius uname -r
[03:09] <floris84> wil give you a version
[03:09] <Vixus> cool
[03:09] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, dunno, AFAIK , there are some people complaining about this issue though. Do not neglect this ,learn the check your fan speed or CPu temp if you are gonna use that laptop. for the mounting. I think one of the USB's should work
[03:09] <Vixus> weird, I'm sure I installed the amd64 one... I guess not.
[03:10] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, how do you know your nvidia works ?
[03:10] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade hm, i'll search the wikis for the fam thing.
[03:10] <floating> Hmm. If I start a torrent with btdownloadheadless and & , then I fg the job, but I am not able to put it back in bg it seems, and the terminal is stuck
[03:10] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade no, if irq7 is disabled, no usb port works
[03:11] <tijn> is there any tool to move partitions?
[03:11] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade glxinfo, i see the nvidia-logo,... had beryl running on edgy (now running feisty). should work :)
[03:11] <joelol75> HELO
[03:12] <joelol75> sound/skype question, anyone biting??? ;)
[03:12] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, what is the printfps out when glxgears ?
[03:12] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, glxgears -printfps
[03:12] <wall> AUW stop it!
[03:12] <tijn> ;)
[03:12] <Vixus> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[03:12] <Vixus> um
[03:13] <floris84> tijn: you would want gparted
[03:13] <in4mer> Hello
[03:13] <tundejeg> how do i logon to a website on command line
[03:13] <in4mer> out of interest
[03:13] <tundejeg> using linux
[03:13] <floris84> it also has a live cd
[03:13] <Vixus> What does that mean?
[03:13] <joelol75> Vixus you need help with proprietary nvidia?
[03:13] <tijn> floris84: did that, and coulndt move partitions, resize was ok... now my swap is broken :S
[03:13] <tundejeg> chanserv
[03:13] <reverseblade> tundejeg, lol, your best luck is with lynx
[03:13] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade just upgraded to feisty and haven't installed nvidia now (i have read somewhere that the prop. nvidia drivers _could_ cause the irq problem). don't remember the fps unfortunately. sorry
[03:13] <Vixus> joelol75, Yep
[03:13] <tijn> hmmm good point
[03:13] <tijn> gparted live cd...
[03:13] <tijn> hn m8!
[03:13] <floris84> what?
[03:14] <joelol75> Vixus, apt-get install build-essential
[03:14] <gsuveg> is a tool for setup dualhead monitor for i945 or need it write by hand?
[03:14] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, then opengl does not work :)
[03:14] <tim167> BIG problem with << K f t p G r a b b e r >> : I want to upload a 18MB file, but KftpGrabber says 'transfer complete' after 0-to8 Kb! no error message ! ???
[03:14] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, I have dv6000 and I have the same error with you
[03:14] <tundejeg> no command like that
[03:14] <floating> tundejeg: I use w3m. That is in ubuntu by default
[03:14] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby,  a console message says disabling IRQ #7
[03:14] <Vixus> joelol75, done
[03:14] <Pics> hello everybody
[03:14] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade do you mean direct rendering with opengl.
[03:15] <joelol75> also need headers for the kernel if <EDGY release (Pretty sure they come with 2.6.17-10
[03:15] <tundejeg> command not found
[03:15] <tundejeg> floating
[03:15] <Vixus> joelol75, this is edgy
[03:15] <jsperlhofer> hell o.. where can i change the size for the gnome-icons in toolbars?
[03:15] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, yes, if you are using that machine now, just to a glxgears -printfps (should take your 10 s)
[03:15] <floating> hmm. I think it was in ubuntu a year ago. Now I have xubuntu, and it is in this by default
[03:15] <dcordes> how can i turn tv-out on and off with my ati and force the tv's detection? (fglrx)
[03:15] <joelol75> What is the EE message (/var/log/Xorg.log.0 or something close to that filename
[03:15] <floris84> jsperlhofer: the icons grow with the size of the toolbars if that's what you mean
[03:16] <floating> check google for text -based web browsers and try all of them
[03:16] <floating> if you have none, install w3m or some from apt-get
[03:16] <tim167> how can I upload files to ftp using shell terminal commands ?
[03:16] <klotho> okay so now ubuntu installed finally. I don't know why it hung last time
[03:16] <jsperlhofer> ah ...  not talking about the gnome-panels - i am talking about toolbars inside of the windows ... floris84
[03:16] <reverseblade> tim167, man scp, man sftp
[03:16] <lewyjh> <------needs help with ndiswrapper
[03:16] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade yeah, it beeps and says disabling irq 7. in the log files i see messages (sometimes) like irq 7 nobody cared. try booting with the irqpoll option. but that doesn't help either
[03:16] <klotho> but it identifies my wireless ethernet as a "wired connection"
[03:16] <klotho> any idea how to fix that?
[03:17] <floris84> sorry can't help you with that
[03:17] <dcordes> jsperlhofer: you can raise the size of your gnome-panel. the icons will grow with it. in order to do this right click a blank spot on the panel and do properties
[03:17] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". (running nv and not nvidia!)
[03:17] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, leave me a memo , or pm from the forums, my nick name is emperon there, if you could resolve this issue
[03:17] <Vixus> joelol75, Nothing to do with my card, just some wacom stuff
[03:17] <lewyjh> !wireless| klotho
[03:17] <ubotu> klotho: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:17] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, doh :)
[03:18] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade yeah, i'll do that. just noted your nick!
[03:18] <joelol75> BTW are these the drivers from nvidia site or the prop drivers in the repos
[03:18] <lewyjh> !ndiswrapper
[03:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:18] <jsperlhofer> heh  ... but i am not talking of those gnome-panels .. i am talking of the toolbar-icons of the windows itself, dcordes
[03:18] <CSWookie> How do I change my window manager?
[03:18] <Gun_Smoke> has anyone been able to get SafePeer installed?
[03:18] <Vixus> joelol75, Ha, I used the wrong command
[03:18] <Vixus> joelol75, thanks
[03:18] <Vixus> brb
[03:19] <klotho> this isn't about wireless, it's about ubuntu thinking my wireless adapter is a "wired connection"
[03:19] <joelol75> what command did you mess up?
[03:19] <msun> new install.  ubuntu says i don't have the permissions necessary to view one of my hard disks.
[03:19] <Gumby> does anyone know where the GDM theme manager is in ubuntu?
[03:19] <\pub\bash0r> since I switched to Edgy, dpkg-reconfigure locale does no longer show a menu to select charsets ... how can I achieve this now?
[03:20] <lewyjh> klotho, it most likely has to do with the driver assigned to your wirelss card.
[03:20] <lewyjh> or adapter
[03:20] <dcordes> jsperlhofer: maybe somewhere in gconf-editor.. navigate to apps/nautilus and see there
[03:20] <klotho> lewyjh: yes, so how do I get it to install the correct driver?
[03:20] <Gun_Smoke> where can I look for connected devices such as CD drives?
[03:20] <lewyjh> can anyone help me wtih ndiswrapper?
[03:20] <jsperlhofer> will do! >))
[03:21] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, can you use your USB mice ?
[03:21] <lewyjh> klotho, that's why i pointed you in the direction of the wiki help, they can tell you which drivers are assigned to which wireless adapters and help you through it.
[03:21] <lewyjh> klotho, i don
[03:21] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade sometimes. most of the time the usb mice stopps working after the irq message. sometimes it's the only usb-port that still works
[03:21] <lewyjh> klotho, i don't know how to help you specifically, i'm having a wirelss problem myself.
[03:22] <reverseblade> drunken-wallaby, another BALLmer trap to buy windows :)
[03:22] <joelol75> NForce 430 chipset, (intel8x0 module) no mic boost(had it with nforce2 chipset? Skype unusable? (Too low, can bearly hear myself and its turned all the way up in alsamicer/kmix) Any solutions out there?
[03:22] <jrib> Gumby: system > administration > log window
[03:23] <jrib> login*
[03:23] <lewyjh> does anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[03:23] <reverseblade> !ndiswrapper | lewyjh
[03:23] <ubotu> lewyjh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:23] <drunken-wallaby> reverseblade bevor i use win i'd use free-dos exclusively :)
[03:24] <\pub\bash0r> drunken-wallaby: why not reactos? ;)
[03:24] <floris84> lewyjh: what is your problem with ndiswrapper?
[03:24] <klotho> okay, so if I found the right driver, how do I find out if its already installed or how do I install it?
[03:24] <floating> wireless problem is covered in more than one thread in ubuntu forums. There's lot to read, and many succesful solutions. So check them out if you don't get answer here.
[03:24] <reverseblade> \pub\bash0r, it's immature
[03:24] <\pub\bash0r> as is windows ;)
[03:24] <Vixus> Ok, now X won't even start.
[03:24] <\pub\bash0r> so it is already a good replacement :D
[03:24] <reverseblade> not at all
[03:24] <Vixus> I love Windows
[03:24] <drunken-wallaby> hehe :)
[03:25] <reverseblade> we should admit windows xp is an OK operating system
[03:25] <Smotang> Windows is alright, but its not free.
[03:25] <joelol75> Vixus: what happened?
[03:25] <Zcruf> I cant seem to mount my extern hard drive.. Ive tried to mount /dev/hda1 but nothing seems to work
[03:25] <floris84> still no windows setup feels as good as the freedom and spirit of opensource software
[03:26] <floris84> microsoft makes me quite paranoid at times
[03:26] <Edulix> any deb repository with OpenOffice.org 2.1?
[03:26] <Edulix> (hi !)
[03:26] <Vixus> joelol75: I followed the ubuntu wiki guide, used nvidia-xconfig to write to xorg's conf and now when I start ubuntu the loading thing at the start is in grayscale with like 2 colour depth (this was always the case) but now the login won't show and the computer just sits silent.
[03:26] <floris84> plus the nagging of serial keys licenses and other stuff like that
[03:26] <klotho> for example, in device manager I don't see either of the ethernet cards, and in network settings I don't see what device drivers it's using
[03:26] <\pub\bash0r> Edulix: IIRC you can directly download the deb files from openoffice.org
[03:26] <whyameye> I lost the key to my Windows CD and it took a week of calling for them to find one for me.
[03:27] <Edulix> \pub\bash0r: ok
[03:27] <Vixus> Argh... why? Why can't I install my nVidia drivers smoothly and get wifi working? Why?
[03:27] <floris84> whyameye: exactly the troubles you have with windows are not of a technical nature but a bureaucratic one
[03:28] <drunken-wallaby> where can i find a list with acpi related kernel boot-options?
[03:28] <Ubuntuguy> HI all -- I'm running ubuntu dapper on amd 64.  I see that there are several media players available (mplaer, gxine, vlc, etc) and am looking for a recommendation.
[03:28] <floris84> I have all of them actually
[03:29] <joelol75> Vixus: You are using the nvidia drivers from their website, changed "nv" to nvidia in Xorg.conf??? BTW I am pretty sure the nvidia ncurses installer backs up the xorg.conf.DATEAPPENDED so you can restore
[03:29] <LjL> Ubuntuguy: same as floris84. and if you want to be able to read most formats, you probably want to have the win32 codecs (as unfortunate as that may be)
[03:29] <Vixus> joelol75:: I can't restore because now I can't login at all.
[03:29] <jhaig> It may have changed, but it used to be the case that none supported all media types, so you really need to have several, unfortunately.
[03:29] <\pub\bash0r> since I switched to Edgy, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" does no longer show a menu to select charsets ... how can I achieve this now?
[03:29] <floris84> anyway you can get those via the easyubuntu script
[03:30] <Vixus> joelol75: I didn't change nv... damn damn damn.
[03:30] <dcordes> how can i enable tv-out in fglrx?
[03:30] <joelol75> vixus: thats not good...  Try CTL-ALT-F2?
[03:30] <Vixus> ok
[03:30] <Vixus> joelol75: By the way, what does CTRL+ALT+F11 do?
[03:31] <Ubuntuguy> LjL: Yeah but there are no 64-bit libs foro win32 codecs.  Anyway, If I have all the players (forgot totem), what should I set up as the default plugin for firefox.  Does VLC have a FF plugin?
[03:31] <joelol75> vixus: Not sure...  I just tryed it, got a black screen with a blinky cursor....
[03:31] <xXx>
[03:31] <xXx> hellp
[03:31] <LjL> Ubuntuguy: i use KDE, but yes, i think it does
[03:31] <xXx> hello
[03:31] <LjL> !en
[03:31] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:31] <washbear> is the threat of a virus in a linux system slowly becoming real?
[03:31] <Vixus> joelol75: Good. So it's not supposed to do anything? :D
[03:32] <Vixus> other than spit up weird graphics
[03:32] <klotho> okay, it seems to have loaded a reasonable driver, and its logical name is wlan0, which implies wireless, but in that case why does Network Settings call it a "wired device"?
[03:32] <LjL> Ubuntuguy: VLC is probably a nice enough choice, it can read many formats by default without the win32 codecs
[03:32] <washbear> !virus
[03:32] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:32] <LjL> !info mozilla-plugin-vlc | Ubuntuguy
[03:32] <ubotu> mozilla-plugin-vlc: multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:32] <jhaig> washbear: In theory, yes (in fact, there is a Linux Virus HowTo around somewhere).  In practice, it is very unlikely.
[03:32] <\pub\bash0r> LjL: since 0.8.6 it even reads wmv9 :)
[03:33] <joelol75> vixus: ctl-alt-f7 is X session
[03:33] <Ubuntuguy> LjL: thks
[03:33] <klotho> and network tools doesn't show it, even though network settings shows that it's enabled
[03:33] <Vixus> joelol75: Ok, so when I go into text-mode (F2) what do I do?
[03:33] <washbear> jhaig - symantec seems to have one listed, low risk from 2002, good to keep up-to-date, although i am sure the news would soon spread if there was a real threat
[03:34] <klotho> lshw shows it as disabled, but network settings shows it as enabled... any idea what to look at?
[03:34] <washbear> jhaig - http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2004-052312-2729-99
[03:35] <joelol75> vixus: login, and type cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | less and see if 'nv' as the driver is 'nvidia'
[03:35] <Vixus> ok
[03:36] <jhaig> washbear: It requires root access, as far as I can tell.  One of the main reasons that Windows is so prone to viruses is that most people run with full administrator rights all the time.  In Linux, you really have to go out of your way to do that.
[03:36] <howieson27> !de
[03:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:36] <Everflex> !backup
[03:36] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !cloning
[03:36] <klotho> hmm..
[03:36] <klotho> okay, thanks for the hints
[03:37] <jhaig> washbear: If you gave me root access to your box, I could do whatever I liked with it.  :-)
[03:37] <washbear> jhaig - yes, that is correct, i think, and also one of the motives for the way ubuntu handles the super user?
[03:37] <s3phir3> how do i reconfigure fontconfig to enable bitmap fonts
[03:38] <jrib> s3phir3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig   iirc
[03:38] <joeblog_> i keep losing my panels under xubuntu. how does one resolvethis issue?
[03:39] <pinchartl> I'd like to request an openldap backport for edgy. I compiled openldap2.3 (apt-get build-dev openldap2.3 && apt-get source -b openldap-2.3) successfully. the .deb packages install without any problem, but both libldap-2.2.26 and libldap-2.3.29 are now installed side by side. would that make the backport invalid per rule 3. (No new libraries that have negative impact on ANY other system component) ?
[03:39] <danny500> Um I'm having a problem with programs getting kicked off all of a sudden for no reason, whats going on?
[03:39] <jrib> ubotu: tell pinchartl about backports
[03:39] <LjL> pinchartl: this is not the place to request backports, there is a forum for that
[03:39] <michaelpo> how do i play flv files in ubuntu?
[03:39] <joelol75> Is the driver 'nv' or 'nvidia'
[03:39] <michaelpo> flash file
[03:40] <twosouls82> joeblog: #xubuntu is where the specialists are
[03:40] <AzMoo_> hey, I'm trying to install w32codecs, but it says Package 'w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.' How do I fix that?
[03:40] <danny500> ubotu>snack
[03:40] <twosouls82> for XFce that is
[03:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:40] <joelol75> vixus: Is the driver 'nv' or 'nvidia'
[03:40] <pinchartl> LjL: I know. this is the first time I'm playing with ubuntu backports, so I'm looking for some input regarding the validity of my request, to make sure I don't spam the forum
[03:40] <LjL> pinchartl: at any rate... i don't know precisely what the backports rule are, but if the libraries are actually installed *side by side*, i.e. they don't interfer with each other, i'm not sure that should be a problem
[03:40] <jrib> pinchartl: you can't request a backport if it isn't in feisty by the way, since there isn't anything to backport
[03:40] <Vixus> joelol75: i have to reboot to check
[03:40] <pinchartl> jrib: it's already in feisty
[03:40] <Vixus> brb
[03:40] <pinchartl> ok, I'll try requesting it then
[03:40] <jrib> pinchartl: I see, ok
[03:41] <crimsun> !info openldap2.3
[03:41] <ubotu> Package openldap2.3 does not exist in any distro I know
[03:41] <crimsun> !openldap2.3 feisty
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openldap2.3 feisty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <cz_cniry> hi can somebody help me with apache mysql?
[03:41] <BjoeHrn> Does anyone know a smart RSS reader?
[03:41] <washbear> !internet sharing
[03:41] <LookTJ> Hey all ubuntu friends
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internet sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi