[12:00] <Stan__> din, I have a linksys USB
[12:00] <Stan__> din, ubuntu doesn't recognize those
[12:00] <mti> Untersttz ubuntu meinen D-Link DWL 120 USB Adapter?
[12:00] <cmatheson> Stan__: get a real ethernet card
[12:00] <twb_> aw crap, source is larger in bytes, but i made the head, track, and cylinders the same
[12:01] <cmatheson> twb_: yeah, dd's a pain in the butt
[12:01] <Stan__> cmatheson, then what do I have if its not a real ethernet card?
[12:01] <cmatheson> Stan__: go buy a new one
[12:01] <twb_> is there a way to modify byte count?
[12:01] <jaross> I dont knwo if anyone awnsered my question before, but my connection was dropped for some reason...so if you wouldnt mind releating it...
[12:01] <twb_> size w/e
[12:01] <mti> is there a support for my D-Link DWL 120 USB Adapter ?
[12:01] <BjoernVDM> mti: nur wenn du weisst was du tust: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4041.html
[12:01] <cmatheson> twb_: i'm not sure... i've only used dd on floppies to be honest (i always just tar up my hard-drives if i want to copy them)
[12:01] <Stan__> cmatheson, no offense, but that sounds like a M$ solution
[12:02] <jacky^> hi
[12:02] <twb_> tar up?
[12:02] <W0nk0> smear 'em in bitumen
[12:02] <W0nk0> when it gets cold, it shrinks
[12:02] <W0nk0> and the bit density increases
[12:03] <jacky^> i tried to add: /dev/hdc2 /mnt/windows deafults,user 0  0   in /etc/fstab, but can't mount it as user..
[12:03] <din> Stan__, is it a wireless card?
[12:03] <cmatheson> twb_: use the 'tar' command to make a big zip-like file of the whole filesystem (or i generally just do the files i want to copy, not the entire fs)
[12:03] <thr1ce> are there ways to lock packages?
[12:03] <webcosimo> jacky mi lei?
[12:03] <gnat_x> grrr. i am having an endless flow of problems with my freshly installed ubuntu system.
[12:03] <jacky^> can I munt a partition as user ?
[12:03] <Stan__> din, i don't think its a card... Its plugs into USB
[12:03] <thr1ce> i have an ATI, and want to test breezy, but want to have it never update my kernel / drivers
[12:03] <twb_> well, i need windows to go onto my new HDD
[12:03] <thr1ce> is there a way I can lock them?
[12:03] <jacky^> webcosimo yes
[12:03] <mjr> thr1ce, yes, echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections (might be an easier way too, dunno ;)
[12:03] <twb_> can tar handle that
[12:03] <din> Stan__, cable modem?
[12:03] <webcosimo> ok karamelli pa tuss
[12:04] <Stan__> din, yes... wirless
[12:04] <mjr> thr1ce, swap hold for install to reverse the change
[12:04] <jasoncohen> i read on the restricted formats wiki that many programs have problems with ESD and don't produce sound. i haven't had that issue with any programs. In amarok, I had to choose esdsink for gstreamer to get multiplexing in gnome, but other programs like xine, totem, kaffeine, mozilla just worked
[12:04] <cmatheson> jacky^: add the 'user' parm to your /etc/fstab for that drive i think (that or add your user to the disk group)
[12:04] <din> ahh so it is wireless
[12:04] <jasoncohen> so, what programs have issues?
[12:04] <thr1ce> mjr, interesting...gotta be an easier way i'd think...hm
[12:04] <thr1ce> gnat_x, i doubt it's ubuntu
[12:04] <din> Stan__, iwconfig essid (your essid) enc (your encoding wep if you have one)
[12:04] <cmatheson> jasoncohen: generally they don't if stuff is set up right... i don't have a problem w/ anything on my system
[12:04] <din> Stan__, iwconfig essid (your essid) enc (your encoding wep if you have one) eth0
[12:05] <din> errrr
[12:05] <din> oops
[12:05] <jacky^> cmatheson ok, thanks
[12:05] <mcdenyer> i like ubuntu :)
[12:05] <din> Stan__, iwconfig eth0 essid (your essid) enc (your encoding wep if you have one)
[12:05] <Stan__> din, I don't understand... sorry
[12:05] <din> there
[12:05] <mcdenyer> but i dont knowhow do do shit on it
[12:05] <mcdenyer> lol
[12:05] <freecraft> can I use packages that come with ubuntu cd in my debian sarge installation?
[12:05] <cmatheson> freecraft: no
[12:05] <gnat_x> the ubuntu.png file is corrupted which doesn't allow Human to load right, which breaks X login, and the only way to fix it is through restarting X a few times
[12:05] <cmatheson> freecraft: don't mix and match the different distros debs
[12:05] <jasoncohen> cmatheson, so, what's the wiki targeted at?
[12:05] <thr1ce> i hate some deps in ubuntu...
[12:05] <gnat_x> i have trouble seeing how that's not ubuntu.
[12:06] <thr1ce> mplayer's are rediculous and incorrect
[12:06] <Stan__> din, what is essid?
[12:06] <gnat_x> not that i haven't had good eperiences in the past, this one has just been hell.
[12:06] <twb_> does anyone know of a way to modify the size of an HDD, i.e i have<PHONE_NUMBER>0 byte hd and i need it<PHONE_NUMBER>6?
[12:06] <thr1ce> so no really good way to lock packs from updating?
[12:06] <din> Stan__, if it's wireless then surely you must have a wireless router
[12:06] <cmatheson> jasoncohen: i haven't ever looked at the wiki... there may be issues w/ java or something, but you can get anything to work w/ esd if you set stuff up right
[12:06] <thr1ce> i want to keep my kernel, and NOT go to 2.6.12
[12:06] <nybble> anyonoe have troubles getting apache to process php files?
[12:06] <gnat_x> so anyway i figured i would change the login screen settings, but that crashes on launch
[12:06] <asdx> I can't mount a vfat floppy as user =//
[12:06] <Stan__> din, is that what essid is?
[12:06] <jasoncohen> cmatheson, the problem i had with amarok was due to a dumb default setting. amarok-gstreamer uses the oss output plugin by default rather than using gnome's default (esd)
[12:07] <jaross_> anyone know how to make it so that the wep key doesn't expire in linux?  I have to type it in every 24 hours or something
[12:07] <cmatheson> thr1ce: just tell it to hold the package
[12:07] <jaross_> it dopesnt change though
[12:07] <din> Stan__, it's the name of the wireless connection on your router
[12:07] <jaross_> bc all my windows computers keep working...
[12:07] <thr1ce> cmatheson, can I do that permanently?  so that everytime I run dist-upgrade, it'll skip it?
[12:07] <Stan__> din, oh ok
[12:07] <cmatheson> jasoncohen: yeah, it's just like that (sometimes you need to configure stuff)
[12:07] <jasoncohen> cmatheson, that's problaby not a good idea. most ubuntu apps are from debian anyways. what exactly do you want from ubuntu?
[12:07] <cmatheson> thr1ce: hmm, i'm not sure
[12:07] <thr1ce> (i'm on the live CD, testing)
[12:07] <Stan__> din, that is linksys, let me try that
[12:07] <thr1ce> er
[12:07] <cmatheson> jasoncohen: ??
[12:08] <din> Stan__, does it have a wep key?
[12:08] <jasoncohen> lol, sorry cmatheson
[12:08] <cmatheson> haha
[12:08] <Stan__> din, sorry, idk
[12:08] <jasoncohen> freecraft, that's problaby not a good idea. most ubuntu apps are from debian anyways. what exactly do you want from ubuntu?
[12:08] <din> Stan__, idk is the key?
[12:08] <freecraft> jasoncohen, some python packages ?
[12:08] <Stan__> din, idk=i don't know
[12:08] <din> lol
[12:09] <din> Stan__, if you don't know, it probably doesnt
[12:09] <jasoncohen> freecraft, ah- you mean the python2.4 packges that debian is missing?
[12:09] <din> Stan__, so do this.. iwconfig eth0 essid linksys
[12:09] <din> then, dhclient eth0
[12:09] <Stan__> din, ok
[12:09] <din> it should get an ip address
[12:09] <thr1ce> how is breezy doing..."stable" yet?
[12:09] <jasoncohen> freecraft, they won't install due to missing/different dependencies most likely
[12:09] <cmatheson> thr1ce: read the topic
[12:10] <jasoncohen> thr1ce, it's not stable and wont' be for a while
[12:10] <Stan__> din, ... operation not permitted
[12:10] <thr1ce> cmatheson, that's been that topic for months
[12:10] <din> Stan__, sudo iwconfig
[12:10] <cmatheson> thr1ce: so?
[12:10] <din> sorry, forgot :)
[12:10] <thr1ce> jasoncohen, i thought that since these gcc packs were almost done it would be better now
[12:10] <Stan__> k
[12:10] <freecraft> jasoncohen, but I can try? if something went's wrong, i can uninstall the with synaptic I suppose?
[12:11] <cmatheson> freecraft: you'd be better off just compiling the stuff you want yourself
[12:11] <jaross_> anyone help?
[12:11] <cmatheson> freecraft: you're going to mess yourself up w/ all kinds of conflicting dependencies
[12:11] <cmatheson> jaross_: just ask the question
[12:11] <Stan__> din, No such device
[12:11] <ABRAXAS77> hello
[12:11] <freecraft> cmatheson, yes I know, but my problem is that i have testing sarge (with python 2.3) and I need python 2.4
[12:11] <din> Stan__, try eth1
[12:11] <ABRAXAS77> is there any method to tart with live cd with kde and not gnome?
[12:12] <ABRAXAS77> start
[12:12] <cmatheson> freecraft: yeah, so just go get the python sources and compile it yourself
[12:12] <Stan__> din, same response
[12:12] <freecraft> cmatheson, the problem no2 is that I have dialup 14kbps so I can't download it that easily
[12:12] <din> :/ not good
[12:12] <cmatheson> freecraft: oooh, that does suck
[12:12] <freecraft> cmatheson, :)
[12:12] <ABRAXAS77> is there any method tostart with live cd with kde and not gnome?
[12:12] <din> Stan__, lspci | grep -i ethernet
[12:12] <cmatheson> freecraft: i would still try to find some other way of getting the sources (at work or a library or something)... the ubuntu packages aren't made w/ debian in mind
[12:12] <spec> hey -- libexpat1 is corrupted on ubuntu's main servers
[12:12] <ABRAXAS77> plzz
[12:12] <Stan__> din, type that in two lines?
[12:13] <din> type what in 2 lines?
[12:13] <din> one sec, on the phone with dell
[12:13] <jaross_> I already did: anyone know how to make it so that the wek key does not expeire after like 24 hours in linux?
[12:13] <Stan__> din, i thought the | was a seperator, nvm
[12:13] <seth_k> no Stan__ it's a pipe
[12:13] <QaDeS> hiyas :oD
[12:13] <ABRAXAS77> heeeeeeeeeeeeello
[12:14] <aurax> hi
[12:14] <ABRAXAS77> is there any method tostart with live cd with kde and not gnome?
[12:14] <freecraft> ABRAXAS77, isn't that Kubuntu?
[12:14] <QaDeS> has anybody ever done a dist-upgrade from sarge to hoary?
[12:15] <ABRAXAS77> freecraft, yes but i have already ubuntu
[12:15] <freecraft> ABRAXAS77, ubuntu comes without kde enviroment
[12:15] <Fandango170> Hello
[12:15] <ABRAXAS77> freecraft,  shit
[12:15] <freecraft> ABRAXAS77, why?
[12:16] <BatsotO> does anyone knows how to copy text or image from postscript file?
[12:16] <ABRAXAS77> freecraft,  i wanted kde
[12:16] <jcoxon> evening all
[12:17] <ABRAXAS77> thank freecraft  good luck
[12:17] <jaross_> anyone know how to make the wep key in linux not expire?
[12:19] <Stan__> din, should i try e-mailing Linksys Tech Support?
[12:19] <cyphase> Go to http://cyphase.homelinux.com/blog/2005/07/07/explosions-in-london/ to comment about the London Attacks
[12:20] <freecraft> cyphase, comment?
[12:20] <Stan__> cyphase, spam?
[12:22] <jaross_> anyone know how to make the wep key not expire in linux?
[12:22] <cyphase> comment
[12:22] <cyphase> oll
[12:22] <cyphase> lol*
[12:22] <jsimmons> what's the super-secret code string for mounting a vfat partition so I can write to it?
[12:23] <Strife> mount
[12:23] <freecraft> jsimmons, 'users, rw' ?
[12:24] <jsimmons> i have this right now...   /dev/hdb6	/media/win_g 	vfat 	auto,users,rw,gid=users 0 0
[12:24] <jsimmons> and i can't write to it
[12:24] <freecraft> jsimmons, and umask=0777 i think
[12:24] <freecraft> jsimmons, or umask=0222
[12:25] <QMario> Does Samba need a desktop configuration to run?
[12:27] <freecraft> QMario, what is "desktop configuration" ?
[12:27] <QMario> GNOME or KDE?
[12:27] <mjr> samba does not need that
[12:27] <Stan__> din, gave up on me?
[12:28] <flogiston> Hi, what command does show were the nouse is mounted? like in /dev/mouse /dev/tty00
[12:28] <QMario> Mjr, I can't see my computer in my network, when I installed samba as a server.
[12:28] <jaross_> anyone know how to make the wep key not expire in linux?
[12:28] <mjr> QMario, well, I don't have much samba experience, so I can't help you with that, but I do know it doesn't require any desktop
[12:29] <freecraft> jaross_, looks like nobody knows, try google maybe?
[12:29] <ZeRoCo0L> ciao ragazzi...sapete come posso installare i plugin di wma su ubuntu???
[12:29] <freecraft> flogiston, check the /etc/X11/XF86Config file?
[12:30] <jsimmons> hmmm, still not working
[12:30] <flogiston> Ime using xorg
[12:30] <QMario> Oh, okay. Thank You. :)
[12:30] <freecraft> jsimmons, strange, try writting as super user?
[12:30] <Groverman> flogiston, ls -la /dev/input
[12:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm vmware might be god for gaming?
[12:31] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> on low res games?
[12:31] <freecraft> ChurcH_of_FoamY, hardly. use wine(x)
[12:31] <cmatheson> flogiston: you don't "mount" a mouse... it depends on what kind you have ttySx for serial /dev/psaux for ps2, /dev/input/mice for usb, etc.
[12:31] <cmatheson> ChurcH_of_FoamY: maybe not... not unless you have a supercomputer at your house
[12:31] <Groverman> flogiston, mine is a ps2 mouse that resides at /dev/input/mouse0
[12:31] <flogiston> Thanks cmatheson.
[12:32] <cmatheson> flogiston: no problem
[12:32] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have something close ^_^
[12:32] <flogiston> I rememdered now that it was psaux.
[12:32] <cmatheson> ChurcH_of_FoamY: haha, ok, go at it then...
[12:32] <ed1t> flogiston, isnt it inverse? PS2 is /dev/psaux? and serial is /dev/input/mouse?
[12:32] <langela> hello
[12:32] <flogiston> What do you mean?
[12:32] <crimsun_> /dev/input/mice covers all, ed1t
[12:32] <ed1t> ooo k
[12:32] <Groverman> hi langela
[12:33] <langela> do you know how can i configure my hs psc 1210 impress and scaner ???
[12:33] <mcdenyer> whats the coolest free linux game that isnt hard to set up?
[12:34] <cmatheson> mcdenyer: nethack
[12:34] <ed1t> langela, look for the drivers on HP site, they might have it
[12:34] <|grunt|> mcdenyer, free? :D
[12:34] <mcdenyer> lol
[12:34] <mcdenyer> ok ty
[12:34] <cmatheson> langela: check out xsane
[12:34] <rasputnik> mcdenyer: compiling kernels
[12:34] <cyphase> #anything
[12:34] <mcdenyer> ?
[12:34] <langela> ed1t : ok, thanks, I'll see
[12:34] <Groverman> mcdenyer, i am hooked on armagetron
[12:34] <ed1t> np
[12:35] <rasputnik> or frozen bubble
[12:35] <cmatheson> mcdenyer: my friend pointed out noiz2sa to me, it's pretty rad
[12:35] <|grunt|> mcdenyer, try Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[12:35] <cmatheson> mcdenyer: maelstrom is ok
[12:35] <mcdenyer> any multiplayers?
[12:36] <|grunt|> Yes, again Enemy Territory :D
[12:36] <rasputnik> cmatheson: you can get that for linux? wicked
[12:36] <Groverman> |grunt|, it rocks :-)
[12:36] <|grunt|> yeah, hehe
[12:36] <Discipulus> freecraft, is there a free version of wine(x) available?
[12:37] <freecraft> Discipulus, afaik, it is free if you download source code
[12:37] <blah> anybody else having problems with apt-get or synaptic?
[12:37] <freecraft> Discipulus, also you can find it 100% using some p2p network
[12:37] <Discipulus> freecraft, got a link?
[12:37] <freecraft> blah, all beginners have problems with that :)
[12:37] <blah> ya but im not a beginner,
[12:38] <blah> novice now hehe
[12:38] <freecraft> Discipulus, nope :) search it by some p2p client
[12:38] <Discipulus> kk
[12:38] <benplaut> blah: what's your problem? :)
[12:38] <blah> so is anybody else not getting synaptic to work?
[12:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> hmm vmware seems to be more ov a computer hog >.<
[12:39] <benplaut> what do you mean by not working
[12:39] <blah> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnet/libgnet2.0-0_2.0.4-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:39] <blah> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[12:39] <benplaut> does the program not open, or...
[12:39] <benplaut> oh
[12:39] <blah> md5sum mismatch
[12:39] <benplaut> somebody was complaining of this earlier
[12:39] <crimsun_> blah, try another mirror, like ca.archive or se.archive
[12:40] <crimsun_> blah, or just plain archive instead
[12:40] <blah> whats wrong withthe us archive?
[12:40] <Groverman> blah, not ver stable
[12:40] <Groverman> ver=very
[12:41] <blah> ok, ill log into root and change my apt sources to just archive then
[12:41] <blah> x
[12:42] <blah> still there?
[12:42] <Groverman> i have no problems with the us.archive at the moment though
[12:43] <aurax> how can i remove postfix from the system without removing ubuntu-base etc
[12:44] <aurax> anyone ?
[12:46] <Groverman> aurax, they should not be tied to eachother
[12:46] <aurax> they are
[12:47] <Magalas_79> hi all
[12:47] <aurax> root      8653  0.0  2.0  18296 10480 ?        S    Jul07   0:03 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/wnck-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:Groot      8655  0.0  1.7  17840  8656 ?        S    Jul07   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-panel/clock-applet --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:root      8657  0.0  1.9  19408 10044 ?        S    Jul07   0:00 /usr/lib/gnome-applets
[12:47] <aurax> oops
[12:47] <aurax> sorry
[12:47] <freecraft> hii iiik. too much vodka this day
[12:47] <cyphase> test
[12:47] <Groverman> postfix are tied to: anacron, at, lsb, laimx, muss, postfix-tls
[12:47] <poofsitypha> Should rythym box play net streaming mp3s from soma fm from the basic unbuntu cd install...
[12:48] <aurax> apt-get remove postfix
[12:48] <aurax> thats what i get.
[12:48] <rasputnik> aurax: removing ubuntu-base won't break anything
[12:48] <aurax> you sure ?
[12:48] <Magalas_79> i'm searching about defacement
[12:48] <freecraft> dear friends, can I order ubuntu DVD ?
[12:48] <Groverman> rasputnik, is ubuntu-base just a dummy like ubuntu-desktop?
[12:49] <rasputnik> aurax: I'm pretty sure it's a meta-package, it does'nt install anything, just lists dependencies
[12:49] <rasputnik> Groverman: hope so yeah :)
[12:49] <jf6> bonjour!
[12:49] <aurax> hmmm
[12:49] <Groverman> The Ubuntu base system
[12:49] <Groverman> This package depends on all of the packages in the Ubuntu base system.
[12:49] <Groverman> It is safe to remove this package if some of the base system packages are not
[12:49] <Groverman> desired.  However, it is recommended that you keep it installed, because it is
[12:49] <Groverman> used to carry out certain upgrade transitions (such as adding new packages to
[12:49] <Groverman> the system).
[12:49] <jf6> il est tot le matin
[12:49] <jf6> et les enfants dorment encore!
[12:49] <Groverman> yep - safe rto remove!
[12:49] <aurax> well if it get fucked it will get me some time to come back and shout @ ya
[12:49] <rasputnik> aurax: just leave postfix in. postfix is nice.
[12:49] <blah> strange , i changed deb sources to ca.debian, and im still getting a message saying us archives md5sum mismatch
[12:49] <rasputnik> aaargh
[12:49] <aurax> nah.
[12:50] <aurax> im installing kolab
[12:50] <rasputnik> wassat?
[12:50] <aurax> www.kolab.org
[12:50] <rasputnik> groupware? yek
[12:50] <aurax> groupware
[12:50] <aurax> jah
[12:50] <aurax> fo work
[12:50] <aurax> ;)
[12:50] <ateves> hji, i just installed mldonkey-server via apt. but how can i start it?
[12:51] <blah> apt-get is still wanting to install from us servers, even tho i edited it to ca.
[12:51] <crimsun_> blah, did you sudo apt-get update first?
[12:51] <blah> yes
[12:51] <aurax> ateves : cd / | rm *
[12:51] <Groverman> blah, apt-get update
[12:51] <rasputnik> actually we are stuck with groupwise (novell) at work and it rilly stinks.
[12:51] <blah> I did that
[12:51] <tsauter> hi all
[12:51] <aurax> :p
[12:51] <rasputnik> So badly they are even thinking of M Sexchange
[12:51] <aurax> exchange is gay
[12:51] <tsauter> is there a netinst image for ubuntu available?
[12:51] <aurax> but the concept of sharing stuff
[12:51] <aurax> is sweet
[12:51] <crimsun_> blah, are you sure?   My wireless works fine for about 24 hours and then it just stops.  As soon as i type int he wep key again, it starts back up.    I moved my top panel to the right, and now it blew my icons up HUGE, and I can't right-click on the panel to change it's properties, and I can't drag it up to the top.
[01:01] <chris24tn> how can I get it back to the top?
[01:01] <|grunt|> why can't you right click on it?
[01:02] <chris24tn> that's what i'm saying
[01:02] <|grunt|> is there no space to right click on it?
[01:02] <rasputnik> chris24tn: but why? are the icons too big or something?
[01:02] <chris24tn> when i moved it over, my applications menus and such are up at the top, then it immediately goes to HUGE icons (4 of them), and after that the rest of the bar
[01:02] <chris24tn> can't right click on anything that is the panel itself, i've thuroughly checked the whole bar
[01:03] <chris24tn> the icons are like 90-100 pixels wide
[01:03] <jf6> hey
[01:03] <jf6> problem
[01:03] <chris24tn> nm, figured it out: had to delete a couple of icons, to get some free (blank) panel space
[01:03] <chris24tn> now i can change it back
[01:03] <craz3d> Anybody know anything about dx9wine, like where I could get it, or if it is in-fact WineCVS?
[01:03] <chris24tn> will have to re-add those icons, tho
[01:04] <chris24tn> if i submit that as a bug report, do you think anyone would take me seriously?
[01:04] <|grunt|> you can do that, but I'm not sure if it's a bug
[01:04] <bimberi> chris24tn: I was going to suggest that but it's such a kludgy solution - surely there's a better way
[01:04] <maswan> chris24tn: well, probalby, yes. it does seem like a usability issue
[01:04] <chris24tn> exactly
[01:05] <chris24tn> um...how do i submit a bug report? i mean, gnome is huge, is there a person or list or something i should send gui useability issues to?
[01:05] <rasputnik> chris24tn: I think you could have tweaked something in 'configuration editor' - it has loads of settings for the panel
[01:05] <chris24tn> hmm
[01:06] <rasputnik> chris24tn: I remember the first ever gnome beta back on the 2.0 kernels. It stank, the panel expanded to eat your screen several times a day
[01:06] <chris24tn> rasputnik, that's still not intuitive or simple, which is something i think ubuntu works towards
[01:06] <chris24tn> rasputnik, lol. they've come a very long way,t rue
[01:07] <rasputnik> chris24tn: no, it's a bug for definite. you should google for 'gnome usability project', they do exist
[01:10] <andrewlightstar> Hello all I'm having a bit of problem compiling a custom kernel. I configured, compiled the kernel and modules, and installed both, and put the kernel in grub. when it boots I get a kernel panic where it can't find "modules.dep" in /lib/modules/2.6.10 I checked the file was there and ext3 is compuled as part of the kernel. can any one help?
[01:10] <|grunt|> Ladies and gentlemen, it's been fun, but unfortuantely I have to hit the sack. Thank you very much, and don't forget to tip your waitress.
[01:12] <rasputnik> andrewlightstar: are you sure it's looking in the filesystem and not your initrd?
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> andrewlightstar : make the keren option * not M, ie, dont make it a module
[01:13] <andrewlightstar> well I did build an initrd iimage as well
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> also, make sure you got the correct block devices compiled in, ie, support for your hard disk
[01:13] <monteiro> my disc is running low, anyone knows tips to get it faster ?
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> #kernel may also help
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : linux disk/filesystem doesnt get fragmented, if dma is enabled its runnin as fast as it can run
[01:14] <inemo> Monteiro: WD40 ;)
 ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL support... look under those options andrewlightstar
[01:15] <monteiro> inemo : i've a seagate 7200 rpm
[01:15] <ReD_inThe_sKy> can i get dc++ to linux (or something like it)??
[01:15] <jf6> WHO love ME?
[01:15] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : but my mouse has glintches
[01:15] <hajiki> are OTF files fonts?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> andrewlightstar : if you are new to kernel i suggest to take a .config from your distrobution, and remove options you are sure you dont need
[01:15] <inemo> Monteiro: WD-40 can make anything go faster :/
[01:16] <andrewlightstar> lsuactiafner: thanks I'll take a look at that... thanks to Rasputnik
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> work from there, remove part for part, test and remove more
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> andrewlightstar : ccache, install it and read man ccache to enable it
[01:16] <andrewlightstar> actuly I've used a lot of distros, and never run into this problem...
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> will save you time when you recompile
[01:16] <monteiro> inemo : what is WD40 ?
[01:16] <monteiro> inemo : never heard about it
[01:17] <monteiro> inemo : it's an hardware ? like scuzzy ?
[01:17] <inemo> Monteiro: teflon like lubricant, comes in a spray can
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> western digital
[01:17] <LokeDK> After I've installed KDE, the fonts in whole gnome is more.. bad shaped.. what can I do?
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> works well..
[01:17] <andrewlightstar> used to be a RH man  untill I found ubuntu
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> i get around 50mb/s on my sata WD
[01:18] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : i'm using gnome
[01:18] <andrewlightstar> thanks guys... got to reboot and see what I can do :-)
[01:18] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : i get 20 mb/s with a seagate 7200 rpm
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : what are you on about?
[01:18] <monteiro> :(
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> i missed what you asked...
[01:18] <blah> yaahhh i got apt-get working again, thanks to all who helped
[01:19] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : i was asking about increasing the speed of the disk, i think that is relationed with my stop freeezes all the time when the memory passes to swap.l
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : make sure there aint a bottleneck somewhere else, like over the lan to a windows share i get 3mb/s but between 2 linux pcs i get 10mb (encryped) and between my own two disks 50m/s
[01:19] <inemo> Monteiro: http://www.wd40.com/ ;)
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : how much ram you got and how much is used? free -mt
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> chances are you aint even usin your swap @ all
[01:20] <monteiro> Mem:           250        246          3
[01:20] <monteiro> Swap:         1992         40       1951
[01:20] <monteiro>              total       used       free
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> dude get more ram, and your swap is too big, should be only 1G
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> if your swap is too big it could also cause bottlenecks (though i might be wrong on that one)
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> gnome is heavy on ram, try fluxbox or blackbox instead
[01:22] <uniq> xfce is nice.
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> i dont think your h/d is the bottleneck, how much cache does your h/d have?
[01:22] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : maybe you're right about the size, bigger the size , bigger the use
[01:23] <lsuactiafner> if only a 2m/b cache it might explain slow h/d speed
[01:23] <monteiro> uniq : but i like gnome :P why i've RIMS why ??
[01:23] <lsuactiafner> i got a 1G swap i never use.
[01:23] <Stan_> anyone know how to remove the power input from an internal CD drive?
[01:23] <monteiro> lsuactiafner : you advise me 512 mb of swap ?
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : gnome is bloated, it will cause your pc to run slower. gnome eats ram like no other
[01:24] <uniq> monteiro: gnome should run just fine on 256MB ram, just make sure you have DMA enabled on the harddrive.
[01:24] <monteiro> uniq : i've dma enabled
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> monteiro : 1G max
[01:24] <lsuactiafner> 512 might be small on your system..
[01:25] <lsuactiafner> 512 minimum and 1G max
[01:25] <uniq> monteiro: then it should run just fine, you could split your swap space into two partitions. would make it more efficient, but i doubt it will give you a extreme performance boost.
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> sysctl -a | grep swap
[01:26] <lsuactiafner> but playin with sysctl aint a good idea....
[01:26] <monteiro> uniq : you mean 512 mb each ?
[01:27] <uniq> monteiro: yes. just split your current swapspace into two partitions.
[01:27] <monteiro> uniq : okey
[01:27] <monteiro> uniq : in cfdisk
[01:28] <uniq> monteiro: i doubt it will give you very much of a performance boost, but you could try if you don't have anything else to do :)
[01:28] <monteiro> well, i've an exam tomorrow, but i'm aproved in that discipline :P
[01:29] <Lucar> join #debian
[01:31] <Kyral> What is the plugin needed to let Beep play FLAC files?
[01:31] <Kyral> nm
[01:32] <cozzo> so... how often do you see noobs show up?
[01:32] <seth_k> all the time cozzo
[01:32] <seth_k> that's what we're here to do, is help
[01:33] <seth_k> new users and veterans alike
[01:33] <cozzo> :P kind of a retorical question eh :P
[01:33] <Kyral> Not work in Beep!
[01:33] <cozzo> linksys WPC11
[01:33] <cozzo> HP pavilion N5415
[01:33] <Wanderson> ALGUMA GATINHA NA FITA
[01:33] <Wanderson> EU NAO FALO INGLS
[01:34] <Wanderson> E AGORA
[01:34] <cozzo> the card no workie... suggestions?
[01:34] <Wanderson> I'dont speak english
[01:34] <ajmitch> Wanderson: english in here, please :)
[01:34] <Wanderson> eu nao falo ingles
[01:34] <Wanderson> espanish
[01:34] <blah> then get out
[01:34] <Wanderson> fock you
[01:35] <ajmitch> there may be an #ubuntu-es
[01:35] <seth_k> blah, that's not necessary. Wanderson: #ubuntu-es
[01:35] <concept10> blah, dont do that
[01:35] <blah> fock you tooooo lol
[01:35] <ajmitch> blah: don't
[01:35] <concept10> blah, apologize
[01:35] <blah> fock you
[01:35] <Wanderson> help please
[01:35] <concept10> lol
[01:35] <Wanderson> lol
[01:35] <seth_k> Wanderson: #ubuntu-es
[01:35] <concept10> Wanderson, goto #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <Wanderson> how?
[01:36] <cozzo> yeah... so it's a wireless 802.11B card. everything else seems to be working just fine
[01:36] <Quest-Master> Wanderson: /join #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <Wanderson> brazilian
[01:36] <Wanderson> you speak portugueses
[01:37] <bob2> Wanderson: /j #ubuntu-br
[01:37] <Wanderson> waman
[01:37] <blah> hai bob
[01:37] <Quest-Master> Wanderson: /join #ubuntu-br
[01:37] <chris24tn> ok, so i'm still having trouble getting the sound to work on my sound blaster audigy 2 zs
[01:38] <ajmitch> morning bob2
[01:38] <seth_k> chris24tn: have you unmuted the analog/digital out?
[01:38] <chris24tn> however, i think it's at least partially due to the fact that the sigmatel sound on my ati tv-wonder is being picked up first
[01:38] <bob2> hey ajmitch
[01:38] <chris24tn> seth_k, i have through the volume control panel widget, but is there a better way to do it?
[01:38] <Wanderson> ai tem alguem afim de tc de ingles para portugues
[01:38] <seth_k> chris24tn: try http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=329208
[01:39] <chris24tn> thnx, seth_k
[01:40] <seth_k> chris24tn: no worries. if it doesn't work, we can try some other ways but that should work.
[01:40] <Lucar> alguem pode dar um help de como adicionar um impresso windows no ubuntu ???
[01:40] <Wanderson> tem portugues na fita
[01:41] <chris24tn> woot woot!!
[01:41] <chris24tn> lol that was it
[01:41] <chris24tn> took me forever to find that, too
[01:41] <seth_k> :)
[01:41] <seth_k> !audigy
[01:41] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, seth_k
[01:41] <LokeDK> How do I switch anti-aliasing on? kde ruined it
[01:41] <bob2> Wanderson: por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em portugues.
[01:41] <bob2> Lucar: por favor use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em portugues.
[01:41] <LokeDK> and I've even removed kde
[01:41] <chris24tn> ahh, ic
[01:42] <mjr> LokeDK, try desktop preferences/fonts
[01:42] <caonex> My gnome session sometimes kicks me out and sometimes the computer restarts by itself, where would be a good log to look for the errors producing these?
[01:42] <seth_k> ubotu audigy is muted by default in Ubuntu. To unmute, type alsamixer and find Audigy Analog/Digital Out. Select it and press M to unmute. Then type sudo alsactl store to save your settings.
[01:42] <ubotu> seth_k: okay
[01:42] <chris24tn> the analog/digital switch that i needed to unmute wasn't displayed by the volume control widget by default, and when i try to enable it volume manager crashes
[01:42] <mjr> LokeDK, if that fails, sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[01:42] <chris24tn> think i should submit that as a bug, also?
[01:42] <LokeDK> mjr, I've tried.. it has no affect at all
[01:42] <seth_k> chris24tn: known bug
[01:42] <LokeDK> k thx.. i will try that
[01:42] <ReD_inThe_sKy> can i get dc++ ?
[01:42] <chris24tn> ah, cool
[01:42] <ReD_inThe_sKy> in synaptic?
[01:42] <Groverman> night all
[01:43] <LokeDK> mjr, shall I enable bitmapped fonts?
[01:44] <cozzo> I, will be back tommrow when I have more time
[01:44] <cozzo> later
[01:44] <seth_k> ReD_inThe_sKy: it is not in Synaptic to my knowledge. It *may* be in backports
[01:45] <Morbo> ReD_inThe_sKy, no dc in synaptic, but nice guid for install on the forums...
[01:45] <chris24tn> as always, there's so much changing ;)  i'm suprised, though. for a free distro, ubuntu has a good deal of "polish"
[01:49] <neXus> ji
[01:50] <LokeDK> fonts are still ugly.. I have restarted gnome.. didn't help to reconfigure it
[01:52] <DeFi> is there a boodisk image for ubuntu somewhere?
[01:53] <DeFi> like for a floppy
[01:53] <Aerebus> can someone help me? i installed a different video card other than the one i installed ubuntu with and now when i startup my linux box its telling me it cant start the X environment (graphical thing) and i need to correct the problem
[01:54] <prudence_> test
[01:55] <seth_k> Aerebus: the easiest way is to, in a terminal, type 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:55] <Aerebus> that should fix it?
[01:55] <seth_k> Aerebus: that will redetect your video card settings, yes.
[01:56] <holycow> *chirp*
[01:56] <Aerebus> cool ty lemme try it
[01:58] <Victus> hey does anyone know how to enable evolution to display images in the email?
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> Victus: it just does
[01:58] <HrdwrBoB> click on the arrow with the picture in it
[01:59] <Victus> ok but I got an email jpgs and it has empty boxes with red diamonds where the pic should be
[01:59] <jose> hi
[01:59] <jose> anyone available??
[01:59] <Kyral> yah
[01:59] <b_e_n_z> any xen howto for ubuntu?
[02:00] <seth_k> jose: we're all here, just ask your question :)
[02:00] <jose> i have a problem with ubuntu and pcmcia wireless card
[02:00] <TokenBad> if i paste something in flood can someone tell me what it means?
[02:00] <seth_k> TokenBad: go for it
[02:00] <seth_k> use the pastebin though
[02:00] <seth_k> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:00] <Walkman> Hello people! I was looking for any help with setting up Eclipse 3.1 under Ubuntu 5.04
[02:01] <TokenBad> oops
[02:01] <jose> got mi question?
[02:01] <b_e_n_z> Walkman, huh? just download eclipse and ./eclipse?
[02:01] <Kyral> Why doesn't it work? Is it detected?
[02:01] <seth_k> Walkman: the Eclipse people have precompiled binaries that should work just fine
[02:01] <jose> okay, as soon as i plug it, ubuntu freezes
[02:02] <seth_k> Walkman: Eclipse 3.1 just entered Breezy :) so it'll be in Synaptic for Ubuntu 5.10
[02:02] <Kyral> have you tried booting with it in?
[02:02] <Walkman> Well, it does not work. I do not know why, but it should, I know ... Eclipse is written in pure Java
[02:02] <Aerebus> could you type that command one more time for me plz?
[02:02] <jose> when starts pcmcia services it freezes too
[02:02] <Aerebus> the one to have ubuntu redetect the video settings
[02:02] <TokenBad> seth_k, ok its posted to the pastebin
[02:02] <b_e_n_z> Walkman, which jvm do you use
[02:03] <seth_k> TokenBad: ack, no idea
[02:03] <Kyral> hmm
[02:03] <TokenBad> it happens when running a game..
[02:03] <TokenBad> and the game crashes
[02:03] <TokenBad> but only after the first level
[02:04] <Walkman> I am not sure, but I've just added sun 1.5 upd 4 using the method provided on wiki.ubuntu.com/java
[02:04] <b_e_n_z> Walkman, type "java -version"
[02:04] <ilba7r> i am running linux and want to connect to a windows pc. The windows pc has a private ip address so what should i type in ssh to connect to it?
[02:05] <b_e_n_z> ilba7r, ssh <private ip>?
[02:05] <Walkman> I'm not quite good with NetBeans 4.1, but NB 4.1 works fine.
[02:05] <b_e_n_z> ilba7r, is sshd running on winblows though
[02:05] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z yes it is running on windows
[02:05] <Walkman> Well ... it shows Sun Java 1.5
[02:06] <ed1t> what are disklets?
[02:06] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z my problem is get a message can not connect to host pc
[02:06] <b_e_n_z> Walkman, what is the error you get when you ./eclipse?
[02:06] <cyphase> why is firefox randomly turning off every once in a while?
[02:06] <cyphase> lol
[02:06] <b_e_n_z> ilba7r, can you even ping the windows machine?
[02:06] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z and i am a newbie do not know what ip address should i type in
[02:06] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z no
[02:06] <Walkman> It does not start at all
[02:07] <b_e_n_z> ilba7r, then you have a networking problem... fix that first i guess
[02:07] <b_e_n_z> Walkman, not even a single error message?
[02:07] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z i am not directly connected to the windows pc and i want to know how can i do it on the internet
[02:08] <babyfire> hola
[02:08] <ak37> ilba7r, Maybe you need to do ssh tunneling
[02:08] <ilba7r> b_e_n_z it is not connected to me through lan
[02:08] <babyfire> check it out people really do speak on freenode
[02:08] <Walkman> Well ... I'll have to reconstruct that situation, because I've used 3.1RC3 version instead of 3.1
[02:08] <babyfire> will some one help me pretty please
[02:09] <ilba7r> ak37 is there a webpage that might teach me how to do tunneling
[02:09] <ak37> ilba7r, Wait a sec, let me google it. I once got a bookmark of one, but it's on my Windows machine
[02:09] <babyfire> and tell me where to go to so i can understand how to open up tar.gz files
[02:10] <babyfire> i am lame
[02:10] <ilba7r> ak37 ok
[02:10] <babyfire> i just installed this thing
[02:10] <babyfire> is htere a instuction book
[02:10] <ak37> babyfire, use tar -xzf filename.tar.gz
[02:10] <babyfire> i type that where
[02:11] <babyfire> please dont hate me too bad
[02:11] <Kyral> Terminal
[02:11] <ak37> babyfire: open a terminal, type it in the same folder as the file
[02:13] <HaroldJohnson> Daniels: Hello.  I've in the process of upgrading to Hoary from Warty; I've changed the source.list file, ran an apt-get update, and then apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is there anything else I need to do to fully upgrade to Hoary?
[02:14] <ak37> ilba7r, try this. It's short, but might help http://csociety.ecn.purdue.edu/~sigos/projects/ssh/forwarding/#port
[02:14] <Kyral> HaroldJohnson, not that I can think of
[02:14] <nalioth> babyfire: go to the terminal and type "man tar"
[02:14] <HaroldJohnson> Kyral: Thank you.
[02:14] <hajiki> reboot and log-in
[02:14] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[02:15] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: sounds to me like you've dont it
[02:15] <nalioth> crap
[02:15] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you done it, now ya just gotta configure your bootx
[02:15] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Got it
[02:15] <ilba7r> ak37 thanx
[02:16] <ak37> np
[02:16] <nalioth> where is everybody?
[02:16] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Let's hope that's it.  This type of upgrade upgrades the kernel, too doesn't it?  It looks to be the same name/version, though.
[02:17] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: you will need to move your kernel and the other thing so taht bootx can find them
[02:17] <budluva> can someone tell me why when i try to open http://localhost/testphp.php which is supposed to show phpinfo() that it asks me to save to disk?
[02:17] <ak37> budluva: have you installed php?
[02:17] <budluva> yes
[02:17] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Okay.  Yeah, I've been doing that with every reboot after an apt-get upgrade.
[02:17] <luakagon> hey whats the bare minimum for an ubuntu installation?
[02:17] <nalioth> budluva: becauase your browser doesnt know its sposed to dislay php
[02:17] <mjr> budluva, perchance you might want to spesify the mime type in your php script
[02:17] <digitalfox|FC> uh
[02:17] <nalioth> luakagon: bare minimum what?
[02:18] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth: Back in awhile, hopefully
[02:18] <digitalfox|FC> browsers don't handle whether it's PHP or not
[02:18] <digitalfox|FC> it's server-sie
[02:18] <digitalfox|FC> side*
[02:18] <ak37> ilba7r: here is another website, it's more like a tutorial: http://mc5.dyndns.org/doc/ssh/ssh_tricks.html
[02:18] <digitalfox|FC> PHP outputs HTML to the client
[02:18] <digitalfox|FC> the server executes it
[02:18] <mjr> like header("Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8"); for example
[02:18] <luakagon> the bare minimum system
[02:18] <budluva> nalioth, well i have added a couple of lines to my apache2.conf, AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[02:18] <luakagon> this one has 64MB RAM, 6 gigs and a pentium ii processor
[02:18] <budluva> nalioth, also a line for .phps
[02:18] <luakagon> I dont know its processor hertz
[02:18] <ak37> budluva: tried to restart apache?
[02:19] <babyfire> is there a index of commands somewhere
[02:19] <babyfire> anywhere
[02:19] <budluva> ak37, many times
[02:19] <nalioth> luakagon: ya got it goin on
[02:19] <luakagon> babyfire, heres an idea
[02:19] <nalioth> luakagon: you'll be fine
[02:19] <luakagon> dammit
[02:19] <luakagon> theres a $PATH environment variable but I dont know how to get it displayed
[02:19] <luakagon> it lists where all your commands are that you type
[02:20] <ak37> budluva, if you recieve the file, what is the content of it?
[02:20] <uniq> luakagon: from a terminal 'echo $PATH'
[02:20] <nalioth> budluva: i dont know how to make the browser render php
[02:20] <luakagon> oh wait, just hit tab,tab,y and that should do it, but itll make your screen overflow
[02:20] <ak37> luakagon: try 'env' to see all environment variable
[02:20] <LokeDK> I removed gnome's tray by an accident.. how do I get it back?
[02:21] <budluva> ak37, <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[02:21] <luakagon> babyfire, you can 'ls' each and every path listed by 'echo $PATH'
[02:21] <luakagon> and youd get an idea
[02:21] <mjr> LokeDK, right button on panel, add to panel
[02:21] <budluva> ak37, thats what its supposed to be
[02:21] <ak37> budluva: it's as if php is not installed at all
[02:21] <LokeDK> mjr, yeah.. but what is it called?
[02:21] <babyfire> ok thanks
[02:21] <mjr> LokeDK, notification area or system notification area, I think
[02:21] <babyfire>  hol up
[02:21] <uniq> budluva: you shouldn't need to change anything in the apache config for php to work, just install the correct package with mod_php and it should all work automagically after restarting apache.
[02:21] <nalioth> LokeDK: "panel"
[02:21] <mjr> (I have a finnish translation here)
[02:22] <luakagon> nalioth, so you think itll work? gee I hope you're right
[02:22] <ak37> budluva, just apt-get install php4 actually (after apache)
[02:22] <nalioth> luakagon: you have excellent hardware for ubuntu
[02:22] <ak37> budluva, I followed ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserver
[02:22] <LokeDK> It doesn't work anymore.. f.ex no icon appears with gaim
[02:23] <luakagon> ok now I need to figure out how to get dial up internet access for it.  it's got a real modem I think
[02:23] <uniq> budluva: 'apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4' - don't change the config, and remove all the changes you've already made. then it should work.
[02:23] <mjr> LokeDK, hm, restarted gaim?
[02:23] <mjr> if still doesn't work, dunno why
[02:23] <LokeDK> yes.. serveral of times
[02:24] <mjr> of course, you might try the "windows way" of logout/login, but if that's required, that's really a bug... :I
[02:24] <LokeDK> must be gaim.. cd-player makes a icon there
[02:24] <nalioth> luakagon: if it IS a hardware modem, it'll work out of the box (with some info added, of course)
[02:24] <luakagon> right ok thank you
[02:24] <mjr> LokeDK, ah, all is not lost ;)
[02:25] <budluva> ak37, sorry was on the phone
[02:25] <ak37> it's ok
[02:26] <LokeDK> helped with disable/enable the gaim tray icon plugin thing.. thanks anyways
[02:27] <mjr> LokeDK, righto
[02:27] <budluva> ak37, nope still not working
[02:27] <ksmurf> anyone know of an alternitive to Keepass?  It's a password safe for 'doze
[02:27] <mjr> LokeDK, if you can bother, you could report it as a gaim bug, then
[02:27] <LokeDK> yeah
[02:28] <Aerebus> ty seth
[02:28] <LokeDK> gaim just crashed... and when i started it again, the icon didn't appear
[02:28] <uniq> ksmurf: in KDE we have kwallet for that.
[02:28] <seth_k> Aerebus: what'd I say? :P
[02:28] <flugh> is there anyway to get apt to ignore all these other languages when deciding dependancies during an 'apt-get install <package>'?
[02:28] <ak37> budluva, hmm I suggest removing all php/apache2 related packages as well as the configuration files
[02:29] <ak37> then try to install it from scratch
[02:29] <ak37> I followed ubuntuguide and php runs smoothly
[02:29] <ksmurf> uniq ... Could I use that in gnome?
[02:29] <budluva> ak37 even after installing libapache2-mod-php4 still nothing
[02:29] <flugh> i don't need dk, jp, etc, etc
[02:29] <ak37> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserver
[02:29] <Aerebus> thanks man but i have a big problem now lol
[02:29] <budluva> ak37, whats the easiest way to remove php4 and all it dependancies?
[02:29] <uniq> ksmurf: don't know how good that will work, i guess gnome has its own, i just don't know it's name.
[02:29] <nalioth> ak37: please.. ..
[02:29] <nalioth> ak37: do it in a PM
[02:29] <budluva> ak37, like all the modules that ive installed
[02:29] <Aerebus> when ubuntu wanted to reconfigure it reconfigured my mouse into agony
[02:29] <nalioths_dog> ak37: Please do not advise ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead.  Item 3 here explains why https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[02:30] <ksmurf> what's the password safe in gnome? equiv to keepass or kwallet
[02:30] <Aerebus> my mouse is acting all strange, moving all over the screen, opening stuff, clicking everywhere
[02:30] <Aerebus> very hard for me to control =/
[02:30] <ed1t> Aerebus, you got a laptop?
[02:30] <ksmurf> arebus ... serial?
[02:30] <Aerebus> desktop
[02:30] <ak37> sorry
[02:30] <flugh> Aerebus: protocol is probably wrong. mine does that if i set it to explorer or anything besides imps/2
[02:31] <Aerebus> usb logitec mx510
[02:31] <flash> fun
[02:31] <Aerebus> how do i fix this? lol if this keeps going i'll have to reinstall lol
[02:31] <luakagon> thanks folks and have a great tomorrow
[02:32] <xfSx> hey guys when i try running synaptic i get the following error: Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[02:32] <xfSx>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file. anyone know why that might be? thanks..
[02:32] <nalioth> xfSx: do you HAVE an xauthorization file?
[02:33] <xfSx> never needed one before afaik, so i guess maybe not..
[02:33] <xfSx> how do i set one up and why is it necessary?
[02:33] <nalioth> xfSx: i have no clue what it even is
[02:33] <uniq> ksmurf: you can try 'revelation' or 'mypasswordsafe' for your passwords. both are in the universe repository.
[02:33] <xfSx> nal, oh ok, danyang :)
[02:33] <helloyo> i'm unrar-ing a file (non-free), but the folder structure is lost
[02:34] <ed1t> is there any apt-get respitory for xfce?
[02:34] <js_> helloyo: unrar x file.rar
[02:34] <demente> #ubuntu-es
[02:34] <xfSx> hmm my ubu is ill
[02:34] <uniq> ed1t: you can get it from the universe repository in ubuntu.
[02:34] <nalioth> helloyo: you type "unrar --help" and find out that the command is unrar x file.rar
[02:34] <helloyo> js_, that was quick! thanks heaps!
[02:34] <demente> kien me dice el canal de ubuntu en espaol
[02:34] <nalioth> !info xfce
[02:34] <hondje> demente: #ubuntu-es
[02:34] <ubotu> xfce: (The Cholesterol Free Desktop Environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 3.8.18-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 907 kB, Installed size: 2548 kB
[02:34] <helloyo> thanks nalioth, i had no idea there would be such a differnce between e and x
[02:34] <demente> grax men
[02:34] <ed1t> uniq,  wats the source?
[02:35] <ak37> nalioths_dog: Ok
[02:36] <BeatYou> hi, has anyone setup VNC to work with kubuntu desktop ?
[02:36] <BeatYou> i just get a gray screen with black x
[02:36] <uniq> ed1t: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[02:36] <BeatYou> shell access if that helps so i can edit things if need be
[02:36] <nalioths_dog> ed1t: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[02:36] <uniq> beatyou: echo 'exec startkde' >> ~/.xintrc
[02:37] <uniq> beatyou: and you should stop offering shell access to strangers. that's very insecure.
[02:37] <BeatYou> no i mean i have it myself
[02:37] <BeatYou> not offering it ;]
[02:37] <uniq> ah.. heh.
[02:37] <BeatYou> kde is running uniq, i plugged in a monitor and its up with the login screen
[02:37] <uniq> then it's ok. i missed the 'i' on that line.
[02:38] <BeatYou> i setup vnc to be able to login with gnome (gdm i believe) by using a thread on the forum
[02:38] <BeatYou> hopefully it can be done with kubuntu
[02:39] <nalioth> BeatYou: what box are you vncing INTO?
[02:39] <BeatYou> another machine
[02:39] <uniq> beatyou: how did you start vnc?
[02:39] <BeatYou> i am on windows with a vnc clinet, do you mean the vncserver on ubuntu machine ?
[02:40] <uniq> yes.
[02:40] <ksmurf> uniq ... I found revelation but not my password safe
[02:40] <BeatYou> to tell you the truth i didn't start it- i installed with apt-get
[02:40] <nalioth> BeatYou: in needs to be running to access it
[02:41] <uniq> beatyou: ok, then it's not started. But you could just enable desktop sharing in the control center.
[02:41] <uniq> ksmurf: correct, that's my bad, mypasswordsafe will be in the next version of ubuntu. sorry.
[02:41] <BeatYou> it has been starting upon boot before i installed kubutnu
[02:42] <uniq> beatyou: do you recall the package name?
[02:43] <BeatYou> vnc4server i believe
[02:43] <nalioth> BeatYou: excellent choice
[02:45] <uniq> nalioth: is vnc4server similar to tightvncserver ?
[02:45] <ed1t> i cant find xfce in synaptic package manager?
[02:45] <nalioth> uniq: they're both vnc servers, vnc4 is command-line operable
[02:45] <nalioth> ed1t: look for xfce4
[02:46] <BeatYou> reinstalled vnc4server
[02:46] <uniq> nalioth: vncserver -kill etc?
[02:46] <BeatYou> still not bringing up kubutnu login :[
[02:46] <ed1t> nope
[02:46] <BeatYou> no uniq, i can't figure out how to start it
[02:46] <ed1t> nalioth, xfce4 is not there either
[02:46] <BeatYou> no vnc4server in /etc/init.d
[02:48] <nalioth> uniq: yes, so you can ssh into the box, start a vncd and then login with a viewer
[02:48] <uniq> beatyou: ok, execute: echo 'exec startkde' > ~/.vnc/xstartup
[02:48] <nalioth> ed1t: you added the repositorys like in the URL?
[02:48] <uniq> beatyou: what that command will do is to tell vnc to start kde when the vncserver is started.
[02:49] <BeatYou> /home/beatyou/.vnc/xstartup: no suck file or dir
[02:49] <BeatYou> such*
[02:49] <uniq> beatyou: ok, 'mkdir ~/.vnc/' and then the other command.
[02:50] <BeatYou> thanks
[02:50] <BeatYou> reboot machine ?
[02:50] <loupgaroublond> has anyone here had problems making initrd kernels using make-kpkg where the initrd file isn't being used properly?
[02:50] <uniq> beatyou: no, then you execute 'vncpasswd' to set the password for your vnc session
[02:50] <uniq> \s
[02:50] <uniq> +s
[02:50] <nalioth> BeatYou: the only time you need to reboot is when you upgrade your kernel
[02:51] <demente> kien sabe una web para configurar el ubuntu
[02:51] <demente> ???????????????????
[02:51] <nalioth> demente: hablamos espanol en #ubuntu-es
[02:51] <ed1t> nalioth, i got an error when i opened synaptic respitory http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/439
[02:52] <BeatYou> ok uniq, now restart xserver ?
[02:52] <uniq> beatyou: no, don't touch the xserver, it'll make a new virtual X server, you don't need to run X on it at all.
[02:52] <uniq> beatyou: now execute 'vncserver'
[02:52] <glick> hello
[02:53] <seth_k> hi
[02:53] <loupgaroublond> hi
[02:53] <nalioth> ed1t: hang on a minute
[02:53] <uniq> beatyou: now you should have a vnc-server running.
[02:53] <uniq> beatyou: try to connect to display :1 from your client pc.
[02:53] <ed1t> ok
[02:54] <BeatYou> vncserver outputs : wrong type or access mode of /home/beatyou/.vnc
[02:54] <loupgaroublond> i'm having problems compiling a kernel in ubuntu using make-kpkg and using initrd files
[02:54] <uniq> beatyou: did you run all commands as the user beatyou ?
[02:54] <BeatYou> yes
[02:54] <BeatYou> chmod'd .vnc +x if that matters
[02:55] <konki> how do i extract a .RAR files? found 2 apps. on the synaptic pkg. mngr. 1. unrar & 2. unrar-nonfree??? what's the difference between the 2??
[02:55] <nalioth> ed1t: the repos have been wonky today
[02:55] <uniq> beatyou: chmod 700 ~/.vnc
[02:55] <ed1t> ooo k
[02:55] <loupgaroublond> unrar-nonfree is "nonfree" but can extract version 3.0 rar files
[02:55] <nalioth> konki: use unrar-nonfree
[02:56] <uniq> beatyou: and chmod 500 ~/.vnc/passwd
[02:56] <nalioth> konki: and thats "free as in freedom"
[02:56] <konki> nalioth, ok... but whats the diff??
[02:56] <BeatYou> argg, same error
[02:56] <konki> nalioth, how come it says "non-free"??
[02:56] <nalioth> konki: what loupgaroublond said
[02:57] <nalioth> konki: because if you take the non-free and open it up to figure it out, you are breaking the law (somewhere)
[02:57] <konki> ok ok
[02:57] <konki> thanks.. lemme chck it out...
[02:58] <BeatYou> sudo vnc4server gives me same error
[02:58] <superted> will hoary see GNOME 2.10.2 ?
[02:58] <PhysSent> Where do I report a Md5sum mismatch from one of the packages on us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:58] <uniq> beatyou: ok, sorry but i have to leave now, take a look at sharing desktops in control center. it's probably easier.
[02:59] <BeatYou> true
[02:59] <seth_k> PhysSent: known issue, there are a lot that have problems. Use archive.ubuntu.com instead
[02:59] <Aerebus> hey seth are you there?
[02:59] <BeatYou> thanks for the help though
[02:59] <nalioth> PhysSent: the repos are wonky today
[02:59] <PhysSent> Thanks
[02:59] <nalioth> PhysSent: that is the reason for the md5 error
[02:59] <seth_k> Aerebus: what's up
[02:59] <Aerebus> how do i format my hdd in ubuntu? i need to reinstall
[03:00] <seth_k> why do you need to reinstall? :/
[03:00] <konki> nalioth, i already installed the unrar-nonfree version... now where in the applic. dropdown box should it appear??
[03:00] <Aerebus> mouse is crazy cant fix uggh can barely typkek
[03:00] <nalioth> konki: unrar nonfree lives in your terminal
[03:00] <TokenBad> what was command to refresh gnome?
[03:01] <seth_k> Aerebus: do you have a ps2 / usb adapter to use?
[03:01] <seth_k> until you can fix your xorg.conf?
[03:01] <Aerebus> yes its on
[03:01] <seth_k> and still wonky?
[03:01] <konki> nalioth, so that means if i have a .rar file i just click and it should unzip or unrar it... right??
[03:01] <Aerebus> its beyond
[03:01] <ed1t> Aerebus, paste your mouse configuration on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:01] <Aerebus> ?
[03:02] <Aerebus> you're speaking greek to me edit
[03:02] <xnoob> Hi everyone... I belive i have a big trouble !   My Ubuntu dont load.... It starts, print many code lines on screen and the load process stops whith the following message: kernel panic - not syncing -Attempted to kill init !
[03:02] <ed1t> Aerebus, wat u using? Xorg or xfree86?
[03:02] <seth_k> Aerebus: Hoary or Wary
[03:02] <seth_k> s/Wary/Warty
[03:02] <Aerebus> 5.04
[03:03] <seth_k> xorg then
[03:03] <seth_k> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:03] <seth_k> and paste the contents at pastebin
[03:03] <seth_k> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.com or #flood
[03:03] <Aerebus> all i know is the mouse is acting super crazy and a reinstall would prolly fix things but if you guys got a better idea i'm all ears
[03:04] <seth_k> oy, why waste all the time reinstalling
[03:04] <seth_k> when we can fix in 10 minutes
[03:04] <Aerebus> ok plz tell me where i type sudo.....etc
[03:04] <nalioth> konki: there is a program called file-roller or ark that should pop up and take care of your busniess
[03:04] <ed1t> Aerebus, in a terminal window
[03:04] <nalioth> Aerebus: a reinstall is most likely not necessary
[03:04] <Aerebus> applications?
[03:04] <n6mod> Anyone built php5 for hoary/amd64?
[03:05] <loupgaroublond> is there somewhere i can go to ask questions about issues with make-kpkg where it'll be more on topic?
[03:05] <ed1t> Aerebus, applications > system tools > terminal
[03:05] <ed1t> in that windows, type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:05] <ed1t> window*
[03:05] <n6mod> I'm trying to use dexter's deb-src, and dpkg-buildpackage wants libfam-dev
[03:05] <Aerebus> ok
[03:05] <nalioth> loupgaroublond: have you asked uncle google to research for you?
[03:06] <seth_k> loupgaroublond: sounds like a topic for #ubuntu-devel if google shows nothing
[03:06] <Aerebus> o opened that xorg.conf file and nothing is in there
[03:06] <seth_k> did you copy and paste?
[03:06] <n6mod> installing libfam-dev wants to remove 100 pkgs, including little things like gnome
[03:06] <seth_k> that's a capital X in X11
[03:06] <seth_k> and two number 1's
[03:06] <loupgaroublond> nalioth, seth_k, its an ubuntu issue, b/c using the same process, i haven't had problems doing this under debian
[03:06] <loupgaroublond> #ubuntu-devel sounds good though
[03:06] <Discipulus> there should be an EncFS package in the Ubuntu Repositories.
[03:07] <bob2> questions about using make-kpkg aren't development-related
[03:07] <nalioth> loupgaroublond: https://wiki.ubuntu.com or #ubuntu-devel (if google doesont produce)
[03:07] <loupgaroublond> nalioth, the wiki is no good, the instructions there are the same for debian and give me issues
[03:07] <bob2> loupgaroublond: best to just ask here
[03:08] <nalioth> loupgaroublond: ask bob2 he knows everything
[03:08] <loupgaroublond> bob2, i did ask, twice, no one answered, and now i'm reading most of the questions people ask here, and i feel like it was off topic
[03:08] <nalioth> loupgaroublond: but bob2 is here now to save the day
[03:08] <ed1t> Aerebus, did u find it?
[03:08] <konki> nalioth, thanks alot... now i downloaded some files with Amule... first time i downloaded these files with aMule... now my problem is there are files called .met .part & .bak or combined together... i don't know where aMule stored the .rar files... any comments on this??
[03:08] <bob2> I don't see a question from you at all
[03:08] <bob2> maybe you changes your nick
[03:08] <Aerebus> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/309247
[03:08] <Aerebus> i think thats it
[03:08] <loupgaroublond> no, i didn't phrase it like a question per se, i'll ask again
[03:08] <nalioth> konki: i have never used <anything>mule, so have no clue
[03:09] <nalioth> konki: looks to me like a partial download
[03:09] <gene> I just added a 19" lcd monitor to my amd 64, nvidia 5200 ubuntu box and can't see any rez higher than 1024x780/60hz in screen resolution options. Any tips?
[03:10] <konki> its not cause its 100% or completed on the when i open up the app....
[03:10] <bob2> "screen resolution options" = "gnome screen res thingy"?
[03:10] <bob2> if so, ignore it and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from a terminal
[03:10] <konki> nalioth, any suggestion on searching for the files on my comp or root??
[03:11] <loupgaroublond> i'm having a problem with make-kpkg where i follow the procedure from the wiki, where i make-kpkg --append- [junk]  --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers and while an initrd is made and installed, for some reason none of the modules get loaded from the initrd.  when i compile the basics like SATA drivers into the kernel, it boots up, and i get no framebuffer and nothing until GDM loads, plus my kernel feels slightly slower
[03:11] <jasoncohen> gene, you just have to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose a higher resolution
[03:11] <nalioth> konki: open a terminal and type "sudo updatedb"    We are doing this NOW because you just NOW d/l the stuff you are looking for
[03:11] <ed1t> Aerebus, what mouse did you say it was?
[03:11] <Aerebus> logitech mx510
[03:11] <bob2> loupgaroublond: why are you compiling one at all?
[03:11] <jasoncohen> gene, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:11] <nalioth> konki: 'updatedb' usually runs in the middle of the night when you leave your machine one
[03:11] <nalioth> konki: on even
[03:11] <jasoncohen> gene, sometimes the maximum resolution is detected incorrectly but it can be easily fixed
[03:12] <nalioth> gene: and if that doesnt work, come back and let me know
[03:12] <tatiana> does anyone know where to d/l the program "smeg" for changing gnomes menus?
[03:12] <Diablo_> hi
[03:12] <Diablo_> need help
[03:12] <jasoncohen> tatiana, it's in hoary-extras
[03:12] <loupgaroublond> bob2, i like custom kernels, i've been doing it since i used debian, and when i install the nvidia drivers from their website, it complains that it won't work with a kernel that has rivafb support
[03:12] <Diablo_> i need to create a keyboard shortcut
[03:12] <Davey> tatiana: jas
[03:12] <tatiana> extras?
[03:12] <tatiana> just add taht to synaptic?
[03:12] <nalioth> tatiana: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[03:12] <jasoncohen> tatiana, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:12] <Davey> tatiana: http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/
[03:12] <bob2> loupgaroublond: the nvidia drivers work fine with ubuntu kernels
[03:13] <bob2> loupgaroublond: using whatever .config you used on Debian should also work fine
[03:13] <tatiana> heh ty all
[03:13] <Davey> tatiana: there is a script for Ubuntu there, to grab the latest version (.deb) and install it
[03:13] <loupgaroublond> bob2, tell that to the nvidia install program
[03:13] <bob2> loupgaroublond: if you're building a custom kernel, tho, there's no reason to use an initrd
[03:13] <socomm> !repo
[03:13] <ubotu> socomm: I give up, what is it?
[03:13] <tatiana> will it um just install itself after making it executable
[03:13] <bob2> loupgaroublond: (no display until X starts sounds very much like you forgot VGA or VT support)
[03:14] <nalioth> !repository
[03:14] <ubotu> nalioth: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:14] <loupgaroublond> bob2, i'm having a bigger problem where i compile the video drivers into the kernel and i still have framebuffer problems, so i guess technically this counts as two problems
[03:14] <nalioth> !repositories
[03:14] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:14] <konki> nalioth, ok done... what else???
[03:14] <jasoncohen> tatiana, you add "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update and then apt-get install smeg
[03:14] <tatiana> lol ok thats too much to remember but ty
[03:14] <nalioth> konki: now in the terminal type "locate *.rar"
[03:14] <bob2> loupgaroublond: I'd be rather surprised if your .config from Debian didn't work on ubuntu
[03:14] <tatiana> i'll try usin just synaptic or updater or whatever first heh
[03:15] <loupgaroublond> i'm not using a .config from debian, i haven't used debian since i used 2.4 kernels
[03:15] <n6mod> Anyone want to help me out of dependency hell?
[03:15] <bob2> so, your problem is that you're configuring it wrong
[03:15] <jasoncohen> tatiana, in synaptic, choose settings > repositories
[03:15] <bob2> n6mod: don't use non-ubuntu repositories
[03:15] <tatiana> k
[03:15] <tatiana> then add the ones there?
[03:15] <bob2> n6mod: if you have already, delete them from /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:15] <n6mod> Cool! Where's the ubuntu php5 package?
[03:15] <konki> ok the file came up..
[03:16] <bob2> n6mod: if you care that much, compile it from source
[03:16] <konki> nalioth, now what??
[03:16] <bob2> n6mod: or find packages that are actually meant for ubuntu
[03:16] <n6mod> I'm trying. Been trying all day.
[03:16] <Aerebus> ok my mouse just completely disappeared =/
[03:16] <jasoncohen> tatiana, then choose add > custom and paste "    deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" without quotations
[03:16] <nalioth> konki: what did it show you?
[03:16] <Diablo_> anybody know how i can crate a keyboard shortcut?
[03:16] <konki> /home/konki/.aMule/Incoming/Lucky Dube - Africas Reggae King.rar
[03:16] <rc51woody> #channels
[03:16] <jasoncohen> tatiana, choose ok and then hit reload
[03:16] <n6mod> OK, so I'm pretty sure that something in dists/php5/hoary is "meant for ubuntu"
[03:16] <bob2> n6mod: apparently not if you have "dependency hell"
[03:16] <tatiana> hm k
[03:17] <bob2> n6mod: maybe you could just paste the errors from apt to #flood
[03:17] <n6mod> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/440
[03:17] <nalioth> konki: that is the  only rar on your system right now
[03:17] <tatiana> not sure what universer & multiverse are yet... i'll have to look on their wiki i guess. ty jasoncohen
[03:17] <BeefTube> http://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ship/pontoon1.jpg http://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ship/pontoon2.jpg http://www.s91842597.onlinehome.us/game/ship/pontoon3.jpg     My new spaceships
[03:17] <Aerebus> ed1t seth either of you there?
[03:17] <xnoob> Hi everyone... I belive i have a big trouble !   My Ubuntu dont load.... It starts, print many code lines on screen and the load process stops whith the following message: kernel panic - not syncing -Attempted to kill init !
[03:17] <konki> nalioth, so how can i extract it??
[03:17] <nalioths_dog> tatiana: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:18] <bob2> n6mod: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[03:18] <nalioth> konki: in the terminal, cd into the directory shown, and type "unrar x blah.rar"
[03:18] <tatiana> um k nalioths_dog heh... i'll look there in a min i guess.
[03:18] <bob2> loupgaroublond: I'd really just suggest not bothering compiling it, unless you can find someone to sit down and show you how
[03:18] <bob2> loupgaroublond: it sounds very very much like it's just a misconfiguration
[03:18] <loupgaroublond> bob2, might be, i'm gonna keep plugging away at this for a while
[03:19] <loupgaroublond> its just something that takes half an hour between tries to see if it works right
[03:19] <bob2> install ccache
[03:20] <n6mod> done
[03:20] <n6mod> using il.archive due to the MD5SUM problems with us.archive all day
[03:20] <nalioth> n6mod: the repos are wonky today
[03:20] <nalioth> n6mod: if you remove any prefix, you get 'next random server' i believe
[03:20] <jasoncohen> tatiana, universe includes thousands of packages that are taken directly from debian. they aren't supported (no security support). there might be security updates if someone from the community fixes the problem. multiverse has packages with restricted licenses that isn't supported like mplayer
[03:20] <bob2> bah
[03:21] <tatiana> ah k ty jasoncohen
[03:21] <bob2> n6mod: get rid of that backport junk, and try again
[03:21] <n6mod> So, it's commented out.
[03:21] <jasoncohen> tatiana, read this- http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[03:21] <bob2> n6mod: if that doesn't work, paste the output of "apt-cache policy libfamc102" to #flood
[03:21] <tatiana> keep getting some error with marillat too. i found a thread on ubuntus forums for it but didn't understand it.
[03:21] <n6mod> sorry, misread...one sec
[03:21] <nalioth> tatiana: please stick with official repositorys
[03:21] <tatiana> why
[03:21] <nalioth> tatiana: unofficial repos, can break your system
[03:22] <ed1t> is there any difference in CD ubuntu sends you and the one you burn from an iso image? i mean option wise
[03:22] <bob2> n6mod: archive.ubuntu.com points to two servers in london
[03:22] <tatiana> hm
[03:22] <bob2> ed1t: no
[03:22] <tatiana> ok...
[03:22] <nalioth> ed1t: nope
[03:22] <jasoncohen> tatiana, why in the world are you using marillat with ubuntu? backports is safer
[03:22] <ed1t> hmmm coz i've heard lot of people having problems with the CD they got from ubuntu
[03:22] <konki> nalioth, problem... msg is: Cannot open blah.rar No files to extract
[03:22] <nalioth> jasoncohen: but not MUCH better, heh
[03:22] <ed1t> i downloaded an image, and it worked fine for me
[03:23] <bob2> ed1t: some people have had badly pressed cds, it seems
[03:23] <nalioth> konki: when you started amule, did you tell it where to d/l files to?
[03:23] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i haven't had problems with backports- but then again i was using sid before
[03:23] <jasoncohen> so i'm used to fixing stuff
[03:23] <ed1t> ooo k
[03:23] <nalioth> jasoncohen: until they come more fully into the 'official' family, i still don't recommend them for everyday use
[03:23] <jasoncohen> lol, so whatever happened to ubuntu's monthly calender artwork?
[03:24] <nalioth> jasoncohen: the project is open, would you like to take it on?
[03:24] <konki> nalioth, no.. but i can see the files now on the explorer location /home/konki/.aMule/Incoming it shows the files...
[03:24] <n6mod> So, I ditched the il. prefix, did an update, and attempted to add libfam-dev again.
[03:24] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i agree- hopefully when they become official and they work more closely with ubuntu developers they'll iron out the problems
[03:24] <n6mod> I get the same 'broken package' error
[03:24] <Aerebus> does anyone know if ubuntu can make some sort of startup/boot disk like windows can? something i can use to format the hdd
[03:24] <tatiana> b/c i added it using an automated script..well the script did that...that i found on the forums.  shrugs i just removed it jasoncohen
[03:24] <jasoncohen> nalioth, well, i'm no artist. was it dropped because of the nudity scandal?
[03:24] <bob2> Aerebus: why would you use that?
[03:24] <nalioth> jasoncohen: well, they are 'official' now, but are not yet in sync with the rest of the software
[03:24] <bob2> n6mod: 11:21:27           bob2 | n6mod: if that doesn't work, paste the output of "apt-cache policy libfamc102" to #flood
[03:25] <Aerebus> because i have no choice
[03:25] <jasoncohen> tatiana, those automated scripts are dangerous and they suck
[03:25] <nalioth> n6mod: the repos are wonky
[03:25] <jasoncohen> don't use them
[03:25] <nalioth> Aerebus: yes, the livecd
[03:25] <tatiana> well it got good feedback on it.
[03:25] <Aerebus> i cannot use a cdrom at this time
[03:25] <n6mod> nalioth: yeah, I got that.
[03:25] <bob2> Aerebus: why do you need to "format the hd"?
[03:25] <jasoncohen> tatiana, they add dangerous unsupported repositories for no reason
[03:25] <nalioth> tatiana: please stay away from ubuntuguide
[03:25] <tatiana> so... i tried it.  if i break it i'll format heh... this is a testing laptop
[03:26] <Aerebus> i need to reinstalle dubuntu
[03:26] <tatiana> but ty for the advice. i removed marillat anyway just now
[03:26] <nalioth> tatiana: in that case, i have some things for you to do...... lol
[03:26] <bob2> Aerebus: why would you format the hard disk then?
[03:26] <n6mod> bob2: done Is that 500 an http result code?
[03:26] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i still think hoary-extras is absolutely great to have. it makes installing java, getting DVD support and xvid/divx, wma, quicktime support a piece of cake
[03:26] <bob2> n6mod: no
[03:26] <Aerebus> i also cannot use a cdrom, i think grub my have messed up my boot order or something because not i cannot boot off of the cdrom like i did last night to install ubuntu
[03:26] <bob2> Aerebus: no, grub cannot possibly do that
[03:26] <nickrud> tatiana the thing that's really wrong with ubuntu guide is it doesn't give you a clue about what you're doing. There is some good stuff there.
[03:26] <nalioth> jasoncohen: i don't think i've ever seen a hoary-extra URL
[03:26] <Aerebus> hmm
[03:26] <bob2> Aerebus: your boot order is determined by the bios
[03:27] <Aerebus> odd
[03:27] <bob2> n6mod: it's the internal pinning level apt gave that version of the package
[03:27] <nalioth> Aerebus: cdrom booting is controlled by your bios, not grub
[03:27] <Aerebus> ok
[03:27] <n6mod> bob2: ah, OK.
[03:27] <Aerebus> i'll try somethign
[03:27] <bob2> n6mod: now paste the output of "sudo apt-get install libfam0c102=2.7.0-5ubuntu2"
[03:27] <nalioth> aerebus is in houston, i could drive over and help him (Not)
[03:27] <jasoncohen> nalioth, it's just the packages that backports produces that aren't in breezy - see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:27] <konki> nalioth, thanks i found the .rar shell commands... i'll try 'em out.. if i have probs.. i'll be back... astalavista....
[03:27] <ed1t> jasoncohen, hoary-extras?
[03:27] <tatiana> ya well i agree with that.  i'm a linux user for almost 3 or 4 years so i have a fair idea of what its doing in the guide, but i avoid danerous stuff if ican. shrugs are the repositories synaptic lists like multivers (officially supported) ok then?
[03:28] <jasoncohen> i think backports is more valuable for the extra packages they provide than for the backports
[03:28] <nickrud> tatiana main, universe, multiverse
[03:28] <ed1t> jasoncohen, where do i get the hoary-extras?
[03:29] <jasoncohen> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:29] <nalioth> ed1t: stick with official repos, please. it'll make your life (and computering) much easier
[03:29] <n6mod> bob2: done
[03:29] <n6mod> bob2: this is where I hit the wall :)
[03:29] <jasoncohen> ed1t, add "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update
[03:29] <ed1t> nalioth, ooo ok
[03:29] <nalioth> tatiana: great to hear. the guide is very dangerous for very new users
[03:29] <jasoncohen> ed1t, only use it if you need something from extras
[03:30] <tatiana> btw, in mandrake i had a way to switch desktops using a key shortcut, is there one for ubuntu?
[03:30] <nalioth> jasoncohen: explain to ed1t (and lurkers) how to enable/disable them, please
[03:30] <bob2> tatiana: alt-fN's the default, iirc
[03:30] <tatiana> ya nalioth i can see it is so i'm tryin to be smart using it and go by my experiences.
[03:30] <jasoncohen> nalioth, why doesn't the author of the guide give some explanation? the info isn't bad- it's just that it's a list of commands rather than a howto
[03:30] <ed1t> yea im new to linux
[03:30] <tatiana> bob2, nope
[03:30] <bob2> tatiana: you can change it in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[03:30] <toran> hey guys, what command would I use to draw some text to the screen at a certain location?
[03:30] <jasoncohen> ok, ok
[03:30] <nalioth> jasoncohen: some of it is plain wrong
[03:30] <tatiana> hm ok
[03:31] <bob2> toran: install xosd.  run that.
[03:31] <tatiana> guess i'll see cuz i wanna swap desktops w/kb shortcuts
[03:31] <bob2> toran: assuming you mean "in X"
[03:31] <toran> yeah
[03:31] <toran> cool
[03:31] <bob2> tatiana: then jost go set one
[03:31] <ed1t> nalioth, the repositories you gave me are the official ones right?
[03:31] <jasoncohen> nalioth, well, if he's just adding hoary-extras it's not a problem. you only have to disable backports if you want just a few apps
[03:31] <jasoncohen> though i'm not sure how great an idea that is either
[03:31] <tatiana> i will bob2
[03:31] <tatiana> just wondered if there was a preset.
[03:31] <toran> bob2: it's not installed, and it isn't in my apt repositories either
[03:31] <NoHope> hi all
[03:32] <nalioth> ed1t: if my dog gave em to you, they are official
[03:32] <ed1t> jasoncohen, i just installed ubuntu like 2 days ago, so im pretty new
[03:32] <ed1t> heh
[03:32] <MDM3455> anyone know why Gens is so slow when the window is doubled or put in fullscreen mode?
[03:32] <ed1t> nalioth, heh
[03:32] <NoHope> Hey, what makes ubuntu differente than Debian?
[03:32] <jasoncohen> it's dumb to use mozilla-firefox, gaim and other packages from backports that are in backports unless you're going to keep backports enabled because you then don't get any security updates
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> NoHope: it releases every 6  months
[03:32] <nalioth> NoHope: US
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> and has a focus on end user Just Workability
[03:32] <bob2> toran: xosd-bin, then
[03:32] <bob2> n6mod: well, it's not installable here, either
[03:32] <toran> bob2: right, it's there ^_^.. .just did an apt-cache search
[03:32] <toran> thanks
[03:32] <HrdwrBoB> and the code of conduct, meaning that people should be nice
[03:32] <NoHope> HrdwrBoB, where is the Debian focus?
[03:33] <jasoncohen> ed1t, this web page gives info on the official packages provided by ubuntu. only main is fully supported. - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> NoHope: they're not exactly sure; hence the problem
[03:33] <n6mod> bob2: OK, so it's not just me, then. Any suggestions?
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> but basically, a lot of packages, stable over time on a lot or architectures
[03:33] <HrdwrBoB> it's an excellent base to build from
[03:33] <NoHope> HrdwrBoB, I'm searching a distro for developers.
[03:33] <toran> bob2: hmm.. installed that, xosd is still not a command
[03:33] <ed1t> thx jasoncohen
[03:33] <jasoncohen> ed1t, however hoary-extras provides packages that couldn't be included in ubuntu like multimedia codecs that have legal issues - for example libdvdcss2 which is illegal in the US but needed to watch most commercial DVDs
[03:33] <bob2> toran: dpkg -L xosd-bin | grep bin
[03:34] <ed1t> jasoncohen, oooo so its like illegal packages
[03:34] <bob2> n6mod: I'd just stop php5 depending on libfam, I can't imagine what useful thing it'd be doing with it
[03:34] <jasoncohen> ed1t, it also provides the w32codecs package for divx/xvid, windows media, quicktime and realplayer codecs for xine (and totem with totem-xine, kaffeine etc)
[03:34] <ed1t> cool
[03:35] <n6mod> bob2: Yeah, I was wondering about that anyway. OK, time to learn more about debian packaging. :)
[03:35] <jasoncohen> ed1t, and it packages j2re and j2sdk
[03:35] <nalioth> ed1t: packages that are not "free"
[03:35] <jasoncohen> nalioth, well multiverse and restricted have packages which aren't free
[03:35] <bob2> n6mod: remove it from the build-depends line in debian/control
[03:35] <ed1t> i need java run time!
[03:35] <xnoob> Hi everyone... I belive i have a big trouble !   My Ubuntu dont load.... It starts, print many code lines on screen and the load process stops whith the following message: kernel panic - not syncing -Attempted to kill init !
[03:35] <nalioth> jasoncohen: dja see your notices?
[03:35] <bob2> n6mod: and probably edit the call to ./configure in debian/rules
[03:35] <jasoncohen> nalioth, some of the packages in extras are actually plainly illegal in the US
[03:35] <nalioths_dog> ed1t: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[03:36] <slipaway172> like lame and libdvdcss
[03:36] <jasoncohen> nalioth, i didn't know dja was asking
[03:36] <nickrud> tatiana had to walk away for a sec, ctl-alt-arrow moves around desktops, if you haven't found out already
[03:36] <n6mod> bob2: control I knew about, rules was what I didn't know. Thanks!
[03:36] <BeatYou> im tryiong to get into the ircd-hybrid dir but i get permission denied, and sudo cd ircd-hybrid gives me error
[03:36] <nalioth> jasoncohen: well its good i live in texas, right?
[03:36] <jasoncohen> nalioth, why's that?
[03:36] <bob2> BeatYou: "sudo -s", or, better still, just edit files as you need to
[03:36] <nalioth> jasoncohen: let me type without an accent
[03:36] <nalioth> jasoncohen: did you see your /notices from me?
[03:36] <tatiana> oh k ty nickrud
[03:37] <tatiana> added universe & multi but it doesn't find smeg
[03:37] <tatiana> i thought i got the original from a website
[03:37] <tatiana> sigh.. pita.
[03:37] <BeatYou> bob2 what does -s do ?
[03:37] <nalioth> tatiana: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[03:37] <jasoncohen> tatiana, smeg is in hoary-backports i believe
[03:37] <nalioth> tatiana: you'll find the homepage of smeg there, i believe
[03:38] <bob2> BeatYou: give you a shell
[03:38] <BeatYou> i am shell right now
[03:38] <jasoncohen> tatiana, yes it's in backports
[03:38] <jasoncohen> nalioth, what notice?
[03:38] <tatiana> ty nalioth
[03:39] <nalioth> hate opening new windows
[03:39] <bob2> MrNaughty: you might want to fix your /quit message
[03:39] <nalioth> jasoncohen: do you know the /notice command?
[03:39] <n6mod> bob2: It builds a fam control library...don't need that. :)
[03:39] <bob2> haha
[03:40] <bob2> go php
[03:40] <ed1t> nalioth, how do u do  fakeroot make-jpkg [the bin file]  ?
[03:40] <jasoncohen> nalioth, no- i just use /query, /msg/ usually
[03:40] <nalioth> jasoncohen: but you do know what /notice does?
[03:40] <ArCHoNKoG> there is a MD5Sum mismatch for gftp
[03:40] <ed1t> type jpkg jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin
[03:40] <ed1t> ?
[03:40] <nalioth> ed1t: you need to install 'fakeroot'
[03:40] <bob2> ArCHoNKoG: use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <ArCHoNKoG> guys know when will it get fixed
[03:40] <ed1t> oo k
[03:40] <ArCHoNKoG> rgr
[03:41] <ed1t> alright installing
[03:41] <jasoncohen> nalioth, no, not really
[03:41] <tatiana> k found smeg i'm happy
[03:41] <nalioth> jasoncohen: watch your screen
[03:41] <tatiana> ty all an goodnite
[03:42] <ArCHoNKoG> bob2, thanks it worked
[03:43] <BeatYou> anyone know what default port for ircd-hybrid is ?
[03:44] <Discipulus> default port for any irc is 6667
[03:44] <BeatYou> tried connecting on that and get rejected
[03:44] <n6mod> bob2: looks like I need to pull out a few more things to keep if from building the php-fam module, but I know where to look.
[03:44] <n6mod> bob2: Thanks again!
[03:45] <ed1t> i dont think fakeroot was installed properly coz of repositories
[03:45] <ed1t> usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[03:46] <bob2> that means you don't have make-jpkg installed
[03:46] <BeatYou> what ircd do you guys suggest
[03:46] <dapimp53> I just installed Ubuntu on my Toshiba Satellite laptop. The only problem is that my keyboard and my mouse dont work. How might I fix that
[03:47] <ed1t> bob2, how do i get make-jpkg?
[03:47] <nalioth> ed1t: same way u got fakeroot
[03:47] <ed1t> hmmm
[03:48] <bddebian> make-jpkg?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> Man, Ubuntu R0xX!
[03:48] <ed1t> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> yet again, it amazes
[03:48] <bimberi> ed1t: It's in the "java-package" package (in multiverse)
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> ed1t, you must have synaptic running?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> or apt-get process?
[03:48] <nomasteryoda> or even aptitude maybe
[03:49] <dapimp53> any ideas?
[03:49] <BeatYou> ed1t yea i had that issue and synaptic was open
[03:49] <teferi> hey, any kernel team people here? i'd kinda like to get some idea of when linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.12 will finally be uploaded...
[03:49] <ed1t> oo k
[03:50] <bddebian> dapimp53: Did you look at the logfile?
[03:50] <Amaranth> stupid modem, dies after 15 minutes
[03:50] <dapimp53> bddebian: how do I get in the logfile if my keyboard doesnt work?
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> ed1t, running ubuntu with XFCE4 right now... on a Dell D505 laptop
[03:50] <nomasteryoda> nice
[03:50] <teferi> anyone?
[03:50] <dapimp53> I am a newbie at this. I am trying to install this for my class
[03:50] <bddebian> dapimp53: Oh yeah, good point
[03:51] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53, what kind of system is it... i just got tot the channel
[03:51] <bddebian> dapimp53: Can you ESC the grub boot menu or is the keyboard dead that early already?
[03:51] <ed1t> i guess ill have to try installing tomorrow, coz i cant access the repositories
[03:52] <ed1t> nomasteryoda, did u had to download xfce4 or it was in your repository package?
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> I added the repository
[03:52] <nalioth> Amaranth: you're that much closer to home
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> from ubuntuguide.org
[03:52] <adwait> hello ppl..........i am compiling a custom kernel for the first time.......
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> is the directions site
[03:52] <Amaranth> nalioth: ha
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> good stuff
[03:52] <Amaranth> nalioth: Sunday :D
[03:52] <nomasteryoda> its in backports i think
[03:52] <adwait> can someone tell me wht "rm -rf linux" will  do?
[03:53] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[03:53] <bddebian> adwait: Congrats
[03:53] <ed1t> nalioth, you said the repositories having problems today?
[03:53] <nalioth> nomasteryoda: nomasteryoda dang this is recursive
[03:53] <ed1t> the archive.ubuntu.com
[03:53] <Amaranth> nalioth: Did you ever get access?
[03:53] <dapimp53_> sorry about that. My net died
[03:53] <dapimp53_> nomasteryoda: Its a Toshiba Satellite Laptop
[03:53] <nalioth> no no nomasteryoda no talk of the guide, please
[03:53] <bddebian> adwait: Force rem the linux directory and any subdirectories under it
[03:53] <n6mod> ed1t: Past couple of days... ditch the us. in your sources.list
[03:53] <nalioth> Amaranth: not that i've been told
[03:53] <Falc> Hello, i'm trying to get the IDLE package, but, I get an error. (Will paste when I copy the error)
[03:53] <nalioth> Amaranth: let me try
[03:54] <n6mod> ed1t: in other words, change us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <n6mod> ed1t: that helped here
[03:54] <Falc> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/python2.4/idle-python2.4_2.4.1-0_all.deb
[03:54] <Falc>   MD5Sum mismatch
[03:54] <Falc> That error.
[03:54] <nalioth> Amaranth: i've been told i dont have the proper access level
[03:54] <ed1t> n6mod, thats wat i have, i dont have us
[03:54] <bddebian> Falc: Do you have a high-speed connection?
[03:54] <nomasteryoda> ok, so how about .. how to fix the Nautilus from spawning a new window each time I click a folder
[03:55] <adwait> bddebian: ok..but wht does it contain? the linux directory...
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> anyone>
[03:55] <Falc> In sybpatic, when getting the idle package for pyhton.
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> ?
[03:55] <Xzallion> okay, I just installed ubuntu, and dual boot using grub between win XP and ubuntu, and when ubuntu starts up it says there is an error with the x server and I need to know how to fix this.  I have a Nvidia geforce card if that helps
[03:55] <ed1t> n6mod, i have these, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[03:55] <bddebian> adwait: What directory are you in?
[03:55] <Xzallion> Thanks in advance if anyone can help
[03:55] <n6mod> ed1t: Oh. Don't know what to suggest then. I was using il. for a while, and that worked.
[03:55] <adwait> bddebian: this is wht i am referring to http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html
[03:55] <Falc> bddebien, Can you define 'high speed'?
[03:55] <adwait> /usr/src
[03:55] <dapimp53_> nomasteryoda: do you know how to make the keyboard and mouse to work
[03:55] <bddebian> Falc: Not dial-up
[03:55] <Falc> Yes.
[03:55] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53, thinking on that
[03:55] <Falc> High speed.
[03:55] <bddebian> Falc: Try the uk mirror then
[03:55] <dapimp53_> ok
[03:55] <youth> Hey i have an issue, i am unable to eject a dvd from my laptop. Does anyone know how to fix this!?
[03:56] <youth> it says " invalid argument "
[03:56] <bddebian> youth: Push the button? :-)
[03:56] <Falc> bddebian, could you give us some info on doing that, I don't know how. :/
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> lol
[03:56] <nalioth> youth: open a terminal and type "eject cdrom"
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53, yes
[03:56] <youth> ok.
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53_, yes
[03:56] <dapimp53_> ok
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> try to reboot the system and edit the bios to support legacy USB?
[03:56] <ed1t> il doenst work for me either
[03:56] <bddebian> Falc: edit /etc/apt/sources.list  Change us.archive.ubuntu.com to uk.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:56] <Falc> Okay, thanks.
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> i would guess it is using the usb bus for keyboard and mouse eventhough they are internal
[03:57] <youth> i get the same error.
[03:57] <Amaranth> ah, the Disconnect of Doom has come
[03:57] <youth> it says invalid argument.
[03:57] <dapimp53_> ok
[03:57] <n6mod> Hey, since I'm waiting for php to build (finally!) I have a simple question: How do I get the automounter to recognize a CF card in the pcmcia slot the way it does thumbdrives?
[03:57] <adwait> bddebian: there are two methods mentioned on the site http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html, which one should i use bddebian?
[03:57] <dapimp53_> so what does that mean?
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> nalioth, sorry about that... i just had success using it yesterday
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> the g that is
[03:58] <bddebian> adwait: Oh, that is just deleting the linux source directory from /usr/src
[03:58] <nickrud> youth try doing pkill gam_server in a terminal, then ejecting the dvd
[03:59] <nalioth> nomasteryoda: we're trying to keep the curious NEW *nix users from getting dangerous info
[03:59] <dapimp53_> nomasteryoda: how do I get the Ubuntu to use them
[03:59] <adwait> bddebian; ok.....well thrs no linux directory in my /usr/src anyway......so doesnt matter
[03:59] <ed1t> still the same problem, oh well ill try back tomorrow
[03:59] <youth> iyouth@cpe-24-209-241-103:~$ pkill gam_server
[03:59] <youth> youth@cpe-24-209-241-103:~$ eject cdrom
[03:59] <youth> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[03:59] <ed1t> thx for all your help people
[03:59] <nickrud> sometimes we have to help them work around bugs, though
[03:59] <bddebian> adwait: I would pull the ubuntu source package if you can
[03:59] <youth> still dont work. :(
[03:59] <bddebian> adwait: Then you are fine
[03:59] <ed1t> cya all tomorrow
[03:59] <fhobia> how do i upgrade gaim from 1.1.4 to 1.3 ?
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53_, did you change the bios?
[04:00] <lucasr> hi all
[04:00] <dapimp53_> no
[04:00] <bddebian> Hello lucasr
[04:00] <lucasr> livecd help...
[04:00] <Xzallion> Does anyone know how to fix X server or whatever its called?  I just installed, and can't open a gui and can only do command line.  I need to download the Nvidia drivers or something to fix it cause thats what I did last time, but I can't remember how
[04:00] <lucasr> i translated the boot messages of ubuntu livecd
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> dapimp53_, pretty sure thats off by default
[04:00] <bddebian> Xzallion: Do you know which drivers?
[04:00] <nomasteryoda> so you need to check i think
[04:00] <nickrud> youth hm, do you have a nautilus window open to the dvd?
[04:00] <bddebian> lucasr: Shoot
[04:00] <adwait> bddebian: it says here to make a symbolic link from linnux-2.6.whtever to linux.......wht if i just rename?
[04:00] <lucasr> but non-ascii chars becomes trash
[04:00] <youth> i dont think so
[04:01] <dapimp53_> so what do I do in the bios?
[04:01] <nalioth> Xzallion: this should get you a functional gui
[04:01] <youth> it said something about natilus but i clicked close.
[04:01] <bddebian> adwait: That works but a symbolic link is better if you want to keep a couple of kernel trees around
[04:01] <Xzallion> im not sure, but if you tell me how to find out, I shall do that.  Im currently in Win XP (yes its a dual boot)
[04:01] <nalioth> Xzallion: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" choose teh VESA driver
[04:01] <Xzallion> ok nalioth I shall try that
[04:01] <nickrud> youth make sure you have no file manager windows open anywhere, then try unmounting the dvd one more time.
[04:01] <adwait> k
[04:01] <cyphase> are there any applications that cycle your wallpaper for you?
[04:02] <bddebian> nalioth: Stop stealing my n00bs ;-P
[04:02] <nalioth> Xzallion: its not a nvidia driver, but it should get you a gui
[04:02] <youth> oh i sure do have some open but i am copying data from my ipod to the harddrive it wont be done for 20 min..
[04:02] <nalioth> bddebian: i type 80 wpm, keep up
[04:02] <youth> after thats done it should work right?
[04:03] <Xzallion> okay Im off to try it, thanks
[04:03] <nalioth> cyphase: chbg
[04:03] <nickrud> youth what *may* be happening, is the thing that tracks changes to mounted drives won't let go of the cd (a bug, and a known one)
[04:03] <nickrud> s/cd/dvd/
[04:03] <bddebian> nalioth: I'm slow and old man..
[04:04] <nickrud> when you're done, try closing all filemanager windows, and unmounting the dvd
[04:04] <youth> so how do i fix it?
[04:04] <cyphase> thanx nalioth
[04:05] <nickrud> youth you can't fix it :) You can only live with it, it really doesn't happen often. And, it's not ubuntu's fault.
[04:05] <nalioth> bddebian: and we are all n00bs
[04:05] <nalioth> cyphase: do you use gnome?
[04:05] <youth> So how do i get the cd out?
[04:05] <bddebian> nalioth: Tell me about it :-)
[04:05] <shad0w1e> hey is there any way to scan the pci bus from WINDOWS?
[04:05] <bddebian> shad0w1e: For what purpose?
[04:05] <nickrud> youth wait until you've completed your file transfer, then, in a terminal pkill gam_server . It nearly always works here.
[04:06] <youth> Ok thanks a lot
[04:06] <shad0w1e> bddebian because a friend of mine (a GIRL) had her windows reinstalled and cannot find the proper drivers
[04:06] <ajmitch> bddebian: you're probably younger than a lot of people around here, so don't complain :)
[04:06] <bob2> wow, a GIRL?
[04:06] <ubuntu_> anybody know where i can find a good tutorial on installing software on linux?
[04:06] <bddebian> heh
[04:06] <shad0w1e> and I dont feel like having her download and run a linux live cd to find out what hardware is in the machine
[04:06] <jtan325__> if i want to mount an external usb drive, i.e. sda1, and i want to let all users have read,write permissions -- basically do everything and anything, what options should i put in my fstab?
[04:06] <bob2> ubuntu_: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:06] <ubuntu_> im trying to install BLENDED 3d, i  have no idea what im doing
[04:06] <jtan325__> i.e. rw, exec, nodev?
[04:07] <bddebian> shad0w1e: That's what plug and pray is for.  Does it have "Unknown devices" in Device Manager?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> bddebian , yes too many!
[04:07] <bddebian> shad0w1e: Do you know the make/model of the machine?
[04:07] <shad0w1e> and its a damn emachines so theres no support or way to find out which hardware is in the machine from their site
[04:07] <shad0w1e> emachines m5414
[04:07] <budluva> shad0w1e, ???
[04:07] <comadreja> I upgraded to breezy, and now X won't start
[04:07] <shad0w1e> i know i was shocked myself
[04:08] <shad0w1e> and I looked
[04:08] <budluva> my ubuntu box is an emachines, and yes you can find hardware info
[04:08] <HelpHelp> Can anybody help me?
[04:08] <shad0w1e> and it was true!
[04:08] <budluva> shad0w1e, let me get the link
[04:08] <shad0w1e> if u can, I'd appreciate!
[04:08] <bddebian> HelpHelp: Just ask, we'll try
[04:08] <shad0w1e> if all else fails I'll hav her pop in a live cd and run lspci or something
[04:08] <budluva> shad0w1e, http://parts.emachines.com/emachines/
[04:09] <budluva> m5410 is as close as your goin to get
[04:09] <nalioth> HelpHelp: with what?
[04:09] <budluva> shad0w1e, oh is it a laptop?
[04:09] <shad0w1e> yes
[04:10] <bddebian> An emachines laptop?  Scary.
[04:10] <shad0w1e> yeah
[04:10] <shad0w1e> i know!
[04:10] <budluva> wow
[04:10] <budluva> you might be sol on that one
[04:10] <shad0w1e> well im thinking that it woud be awesome (anyway) to know of a windows-based program to scan the pci bus
[04:10] <shad0w1e> know of any?
[04:10] <budluva> what are you trying to do?
[04:10] <shad0w1e> pop in a live cd and run lspci! (arghh)
[04:11] <budluva> or what piece of hardware do you want info for?
[04:11] <budluva> why doesnt lspci work?
[04:11] <shad0w1e> i need drivers
[04:11] <shad0w1e> because linux isnt on the machine
[04:11] <youth> is there any way to use photoshop on linux?
[04:11] <n6mod> bob2: enough fun for one day...but I'm on the right track. thanks again.
[04:11] <shad0w1e> i just figured maybe someone in here might know how to ...
[04:11] <bddebian> shad0w1e: I don't know of any that will tell you the actual devices
[04:11] <budluva> youth, wine
[04:11] <shad0w1e> youth, you can run 7 forsure
[04:11] <shad0w1e> i dont know about CS though
[04:12] <bob2> nalioth: np
[04:12] <bob2> bah
[04:12] <youth> awesome, can i get WINE in Synaptec ?
[04:12] <budluva> yess
[04:12] <nalioth> bob2: humbug
[04:12] <budluva> youth, why not use apt?
[04:12] <shad0w1e> so nobody knows of a "lspci"-like program for windows?
[04:12] <youth> apt?
[04:13] <budluva> youth, yes, its what synaptic runs off
[04:13] <youth> im sorry i forgot all about how to use ubuntu.. lol
[04:13] <nickrud> budluva not to be pendantic, but syn_apt_tic uses apt :)
[04:13] <youth> what do you mean?
[04:13] <budluva> youth, think of synaptic as a front-end gui for apt
[04:13] <youth> just do apt-get wine?
[04:13] <omegadc> hello folks
[04:13] <budluva> youth, apt is command line so you have to run in a terminal
[04:13] <bddebian> Hello moe
[04:13] <budluva> youth, no, apt-get install wine
[04:13] <bddebian> err omegadc
[04:14] <budluva> youth, but you have to be su'd
[04:14] <youth> oh sweet.. that works!
[04:14] <youth> appreciate it
[04:14] <budluva> np
[04:14] <nickrud> free?
[04:14] <omegadc> could anyone help me to configure gitf?
[04:14] <omegadc> i ve instaled already ....as giftoxic
[04:15] <lumberjack> hey, when i mount my serial hard drive it has root permissions
[04:15] <adwait> omgadc: ok so.......u cant connect?
[04:15] <omegadc> after starting giftd i try to use giftoxic or giftui but no anwser
[04:15] <Hackmo> hey all, can anyone help me get my surround sound working?
[04:15] <omegadc> num....the front end doesn even start
[04:16] <lumberjack> isnt there a command thats like mode=000
[04:16] <adwait> omegadc: umm...try starting giftoc by itself, i guess it auto starts gift on my end
[04:16] <lumberjack> or umask or something
[04:16] <bddebian> lumberjack: chmod
[04:16] <adwait> *giftoxic
[04:16] <nickrud> lumberjack man mount, look for umask, uid, gid
[04:16] <budluva> add the user option and add your user to the disk group?
[04:16] <omegadc> it says something about there can be nother process in pot 1213
[04:16] <bddebian> lumberjack: And you don't want to use 000
[04:16] <lumberjack> why
[04:17] <shad0w1e> um whats the best way to find out what devices are in my linux machine?
[04:17] <bddebian> lumberjack: That would essentially mean no-one has permissions, including root
[04:17] <shad0w1e> (hardware)
[04:17] <adwait> omegadc: when does it say that?
[04:17] <bddebian> shad0w1e: lspci or /etc/proc
[04:17] <budluva> shad0w1e, well are you currently using linux or windows?
[04:17] <nickrud> shad0w1e lspci, lsusb are quick
[04:17] <shad0w1e> linux if i have to
[04:17] <omegadc> when i $ giftd
[04:17] <shad0w1e> but I remember devices having like a 0x123
[04:17] <budluva> well i thought you didnt have drivers?
[04:18] <drummer87> hi, can someone help me.. i can't access my ubuntu box from the home XP box on the same network (orwin2k for that matter)
[04:18] <shad0w1e> or s/t like that
[04:18] <omegadc> *** GIFT-FATAL: Failed to load interface subsystem
[04:18] <omegadc> NOTE:
[04:18] <omegadc> There may be another giFT daemon running on this host.  Check to see if the
[04:18] <omegadc> interface port (1213) is currently in use by another process.
[04:18] <omegadc> *** Often times more information can be found in the log file or with the -v command line switch.
[04:18] <shad0w1e> lspci doesnt show that
[04:18] <youth> how come my update is downloading at 3.8 kb a secong
[04:18] <youth> i have a broadband connection
[04:18] <budluva> youth, repos are busy?
[04:18] <youth> who?
[04:18] <cam> omegadc:  don't paste in here. and did you check the logs are start it w/ -v like it said?
[04:18] <shad0w1e> lspci gives me PCI ID's. what if I want hardware ID?
[04:18] <drummer87> it shows up in the local network but asks for a login and password and i have no idea what to put here :(
[04:18] <budluva> youth, maybe you have the wrong repos setup
[04:18] <youth> how do i find out
[04:19] <bob2> shad0w1e: "hardware id"?
[04:19] <jtan325__> does anyone understand the "umask" stuff in fstab?
[04:19] <omegadc> sorry
[04:19] <adwait> omegadc: thts wht i said.........just dont start giftd, directly start gitftoxic
[04:19] <jtan325__> or does anyone understand mounting/unmounting pretty well?
[04:19] <shad0w1e> bob2 i remember seeing something like 0x123
[04:19] <nickrud> omegadc netstat -tln will tell you if something is already using 1213
[04:19] <bob2> lumberjack: lots of people do
[04:19] <budluva> youth, well if you live in the us, use us sources, if you live in france, use fr sources
[04:19] <bob2> bah
[04:19] <bob2> jtan325__: umask=000
[04:19] <youth> how do i find out what i am using..
[04:19] <jtan325__> bob2, what kind of permissions does that enable
[04:19] <budluva> youth, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:19] <bob2> jtan325__: read/write for everyone
[04:20] <omegadc> it says "address already in use"
[04:20] <jtan325__> ok perfect, sweet
[04:20] <bob2> well, read on NTFS
[04:20] <jtan325__> what about "dev/nodev"?
[04:20] <youth> now what?
[04:20] <jtan325__> when should i use that
[04:20] <adwait> omegadc: when??
[04:20] <budluva> youth, what do you think?
[04:20] <bob2> jtan325__: when you know that you need it
[04:20] <omegadc> $giftd -v
[04:20] <ray_> does anybody know if the fglrx drivers work with the686 kernel?
[04:20] <youth> no idea.. i dont know where to look.
[04:20] <jtan325__> bob2, when would that be?
[04:20] <jtan325__> what's the default?
[04:21] <bob2> jtan325__: if you don't understand it, you don't need it.  the default is dev.
[04:21] <ray_> does anybody know if the fglrx drivers work with the686 kernel?
[04:21] <jtan325__> ok cool
[04:21] <jasoncohen> ray_, it should - see linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 - Non-free Linux 2.6.10 modules on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV
[04:21] <budluva> youth, deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[04:21] <bob2> jtan325__: it stops people putting/using device nodes on a filesystem, which could be used in some attacks
[04:21] <budluva> youth, i live in canada, if you live in us, use us.archive.ubuntu.com, if you live in france, use fr.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:21] <jasoncohen> ray_, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-686 includes the fglrx, nvidia, madwifi driver for the -686 kernel
[04:21] <argonaut> hello
[04:21] <youth> i do have us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:21] <budluva> youth, where do you live?
[04:21] <ArCHoNKoG> is there a gui c++ compiler ?
[04:21] <adwait> omegadc: tyr ps -al | grep giftd
[04:22] <youth> us
[04:22] <adwait> and then kill <PID>
[04:22] <bob2> ArCHoNKoG: no, that would be silly
[04:22] <omegadc> ok
[04:22] <reka> ArCHoNKoG: install build-essential
[04:22] <budluva> youth, ok well then the repo must just be busy
[04:22] <adwait> brb
[04:22] <reka> ah, whoops
[04:22] <youth> hm.. so i just be patient.
[04:22] <reka> read over the gui part :)
[04:22] <youth> i mean this update is taking 5 hours!
[04:22] <shad0w1e> guys I want to write a script that can "detect" if there is an internet connection, and act accordingly... can anyone maybe give me a little help with that?
[04:22] <omegadc> done
[04:22] <bddebian> Won't kylix do C++  or kdevelop even?
[04:22] <bob2> shad0w1e: you need to define "detect" very very strictly
[04:23] <budluva> youth, everything else fine speed wise? ie browsing the net?
[04:23] <shad0w1e> lets say ping google.com
[04:23] <youth> yeah everything else is col
[04:23] <shad0w1e> and be able to react to whether or not it successfully pings
[04:23] <argonaut> i've run into a couple major problems in installing ubuntu... first i noticed was the bulk of the installer being hardly readable due to a graphics distortion.. also, the installer crashes 25% through "configuring apt -- setting up pimary installation repository"
[04:23] <budluva> youth, sit it out and wait i guess :P
[04:23] <nickrud> youth I've been using us for a long time, and 3.8 seems extremely slow. I'd try another country.
[04:23] <youth> Another country.. how do i change?
[04:24] <lumberjack> i am trying to mount a serial ata drive
[04:24] <youth> i remember someone had this same issue a while back, but i forget what they did to fix it
[04:24] <lumberjack> and when i mount i get
[04:24] <adwait> omegdc: well? can u start giftoxic now?
[04:24] <tiglionabbit> If I'm compiling, and the thing says I don't have GL, what dev package am I missing?
[04:24] <lumberjack> lumberjack@lumberjack:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda /mnt
[04:24] <lumberjack> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:24] <budluva> youth, change the 2 letter country code, save, and apt-get update
[04:24] <bob2> tiglionabbit: libGL-dev
[04:24] <ArCHoNKoG> reka, how would you use build-essential as a compiler ?
[04:24] <shad0w1e> how can a script know if theres an internet connection?
[04:24] <youth> i cant edit the nano file..
[04:24] <nickrud> youth edit /etc/apt/sources.list, change us *everywhere* to uk (the uk recommendation is parroting)
[04:24] <youth> ok.
[04:24] <budluva> youth, cause your not su'd
[04:24] <omegadc> i did it
[04:24] <argonaut> i'm on a fic kt748 motherboard and a atlantis radeon 9200se 128mb 8x agp video card
[04:25] <adwait> omegdc: right........well now can u start giftoxic?
[04:25] <zip> if i use apt-get to download from a source repository, will it automatically compile and install for my syste,?
[04:25] <reka> ArCHoNKoG: it provides g++.  i'm not sure what you mean by a gui compiler though.  g++/gcc is invoked via the command line
[04:25] <budluva> youth, exit and either sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or su - then nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <omegadc> no :(
[04:25] <ArCHoNKoG> k
[04:25] <adwait> omegadc: wht does it say now?
[04:25] <argonaut> anybpdy know why there are these crazy problems in the installer?
[04:26] <budluva> youth, btw if you didnt know su - switches your user to the root account and stays root, so you dont have to sudo all your commands
[04:26] <omegadc> it doesn say anything...i just doesn open
[04:26] <youth> how do i save it?
[04:26] <nickrud> argonaut there are no crazy problems, just fixable ones
[04:26] <budluva> youth, ctrl-o
[04:26] <budluva> youth, then ctrl-x to exit
[04:26] <nickrud> heh, what a crock :)
[04:26] <ray_> thanks guys who answered my fglrx question it worked!
[04:26] <argonaut> well, sure they're fixable... definately unusual
[04:26] <adwait> omegadc: try from the commandline....maybe itll print some errors there?
[04:27] <reka> argonaut: [1]  graphics issue - try using the vga option [2]  apt crashing - sure it really crashes?  some people have experienced "hangs" but the installer starts up again
[04:27] <omegadc> no...i wrote $giFToxic
[04:27] <omegadc> it just jumped to next line like nothing has happened
[04:27] <adwait> hmm
[04:27] <argonaut> so, "linux vga" at the "boot: " prompt?
[04:28] <argonaut> ah.. i left it on that screen for half an hour then decided its fubar
[04:28] <reka> argonaut: not sure of the exact syntax.
[04:28] <youth> it seems to be working faster..
[04:28] <argonaut> and i'm on an athlon 2500 so i figure that's reasonable
[04:28] <reka> argonaut: yeah, 30 mins is pushing it...
[04:28] <budluva> youth, what mirror did you use?
[04:28] <Xzallion> ok I tried the vesa driver thing, and I think I messed that up.   I can't even get the command prompt.  Oh and i have a Gforce Nvidia fx 5200 if that helps...
[04:28] <adwait> omegadc:  in ~/.giFT/giFT.conf is the value of setup non zero
[04:29] <youth> uk
[04:29] <budluva> youth, btw you have to change all of your sources
[04:29] <adwait> omegadc: actually....limewire is better.......maybe u should try tht :)
[04:29] <youth> i did..
[04:29] <youth> i changed them all to uk
[04:29] <budluva> youth, ok good
[04:29] <Xzallion> I think Im going to have to re-install to overwrite my mess up, and then try to fix it with what ever anyone suggests
[04:29] <budluva> just makin sure
[04:29] <Discipulus> I can't get giftcurs to work correctly
[04:29] <Discipulus> anybody know why?
[04:29] <dapimp53> ok I got the keyboard and mouse to work. Now I need to get on my wireless network. It says it configured and active. How do I actually use it so it connects to the internet? The network terminals that are flashing at the top says its useing lo. My wireless is ath0
[04:29] <omegadc> can i reach fastrack from it?
[04:29] <youth> but it is going 3618B/s..
[04:29] <cam> Discipulus:  you're going to have to provide more information than that
[04:30] <youth> :-\
[04:30] <Discipulus> cam, well, I start it up from the command line but it doesn't even show me a UI
[04:30] <argonaut> anybody know the kernel option for vga?
[04:30] <budluva> youth, thats roughly the same speed as last time
[04:30] <youth> it seemed to be going faster. but its the same.
[04:30] <youth> yeah..
[04:30] <adwait> omegadc: umm.....i am not sure which protocols it uses....but nevertheless it gives many results
[04:30] <cam> Discipulus:  so what does it show?
[04:30] <youth> well the apt-get update is done now.
[04:30] <omegadc> how do i use with debian
[04:30] <Discipulus> cam, nothing
[04:30] <adwait> considering i search for indian songs, and most ppl here only use kazaa for p2p, thts pretty good
[04:30] <youth> i was doing the automatic update before and it was taking 5 hours..
[04:30] <youth> it is suppose to take that long?
[04:30] <omegadc> apt-get install limewire?
[04:31] <cam> Discipulus:  does it take you back to the command prompt or just a blank screen?
[04:31] <adwait> omegadc: go to www.limewire.com and download limewire for linux (not rpm)
[04:31] <budluva> youth, after apt-get update you should try apt-get upgrade to actually get your packages
[04:31] <Discipulus> don't even do that, it stays at the command prompt
[04:31] <omegadc> source?
[04:31] <Discipulus> I'll show you
[04:31] <adwait> simply extract it and run sh ./runLime.sh
[04:31] <cam> Discipulus:  do you have giftd running?
[04:31] <nickrud> youth as a test, I'd try getting some random file off the net, and see if it was also slow.
[04:31] <youth> how do i cancel from the terminal?
[04:32] <budluva> youth, ctrl-c
[04:32] <Discipulus> yes
[04:32] <youth> ok.. thakns lol sorry for the newbie questions
[04:32] <adwait> omegaomegadc: at the bottom of download links.........other
[04:32] <Xzallion> ok, how would I get Ubuntu 5.04 to install the Nvidia drivers (newest) or working x server configuration to get to a gui?  I will have access to the command prompt once I reinstall
[04:32] <reka> argonaut: linux vga=771
[04:32] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$ giftd -d
[04:32] <Discipulus> [21:34:58]  giFT: 9261
[04:32] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$ giFTcurs
[04:32] <Discipulus> and then it goes to a newline
[04:32] <Discipulus> and sits there
[04:33] <argonaut> thank you
[04:33] <youth> budluva, by the way it said that wine is not available ?
[04:33] <Aerebus> can someone please help me fix my mouse? lol its running all over the screen
[04:33] <macubuntu83> hi
[04:33] <budluva> youth, wine - Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)
[04:33] <budluva> youth, maybe your not using the correct repositories?
[04:33] <Discipulus> cam, any reason why it would do that?
[04:33] <Xzallion> hello anyone want to help a newb?
[04:33] <cam> Discipulus:  because it won't work if you don't
[04:34] <bimberi> Xzallion: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:34] <cam> Discipulus:  giFTcurs is just a front-end to the daemon
[04:34] <macubuntu83> hello
[04:34] <Discipulus> giftd is running and working tohugh
[04:34] <Discipulus> though*
[04:34] <dapimp53_> ok I got the keyboard and mouse to work. Now I need to get on my wireless network. It says it configured and active. How do I actually use it so it connects to the internet? The network terminals that are flashing at the top says its useing lo. My wireless is ath0
[04:34] <Discipulus> I don't see a UI
[04:34] <Discipulus> it just sits there
[04:34] <budluva> youth, Package wine
[04:34] <budluva>     * hoary (otherosfs): Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator) [universe]
[04:34] <budluva>       0.0.20050310-1.1: i386
[04:34] <budluva> youth, make sure you have universe enabled
[04:34] <cam> Discipulus:  where are you running the ui from?
[04:34] <Discipulus> cam, command line
[04:34] <youth> ah.. how do i do that?
[04:34] <youth> from terminal?
[04:35] <budluva> youth, check your sources.list again and see if you have the universe repo
[04:35] <adwait> hey is there a command to check the uptime of the system
[04:35] <bimberi> dapimp53: System -> Administration -> Networking
[04:35] <root________> Hi, I'm thinking of doing a net install (it IS possible with ubuntu, right ?) and I need to know if ubuntu will like my Atheros Wireless Network card
[04:35] <budluva> youth, check and see if its commented out or not
[04:35] <bimberi> adwait: "uptime" :)
[04:35] <cam> Discipulus:  hmm, i've never seen it not work before when the daemon is running... do other curses apps work?  have you tried the gtk front-end?
[04:35] <daniels> root________: a) yes, b) yes
[04:35] <adwait> bimberi: aah.......could never have guessed :p
[04:36] <adwait> :D
[04:36] <root________> bimberi, /exec -o uptime, if you wanna show it off
[04:36] <josie> where in the world is the alsaconf utility!??  I have an old integrated sb16 on an isa bus.  Everyone claims that it's provided in the alsa-utils package, but if you look at the file listing, it's clearly not there.
[04:36] <youth> budluva, the internet download was going at 201kb a second
[04:36] <adwait> thx
[04:36] <daniels> root________: c) recommended you don't IRC as root
[04:36] <Discipulus> cam, giftui doesn't open either
[04:36] <Discipulus> cam, and I'm not sure about other curses apps
[04:36] <root________> daniels, I'm not :)
[04:36] <cam> Discipulus:  wow, you're sure it's configured correctly (the daemon that is)
[04:36] <dapimp53_> bimberi: It says its active but I still dont have internet access
[04:36] <Discipulus> cam, yea, I'm sure, I can try to reconfigure it though
[04:36] <youth> do i take away the ##?
[04:36] <daniels> root________: your nick, username, and real name are all 'root'?
[04:37] <Xzallion> :bimberi: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx does not work...  Something about packages or something
[04:37] <Codestorm> is there anyone using Blam! successfully in Hoary?
[04:37] <bimberi> dapimp53: Is it the default gateway device?
[04:37] <youth> to umcomment do i add or take away an #?
[04:37] <adwait> take away
[04:38] <Aerebus> can someone please help me fix my mouse? lol its running all over the screen and clicking on all sorts of things, i dont think ubuntu likes my mouse =/
[04:38] <reka> youth: a line starting with a # is commented out
[04:38] <root________> daniels, before I explain the "root" thing..  I've already tried knoppix, and it doesn't like the atheros chipset..  are you SURE about it
[04:38] <lumberjack> how does the chmod command work
[04:38] <root________> daniels, ?  /ctcp version mich :)
[04:38] <root________> lumberjack, man chmod
[04:38] <bimberi> Xzallion: What is the message?
[04:38] <lumberjack> i did man but when i try and change the folder permissions it wont change
[04:38] <dapimp53_> bimberi: I set it as that then I hit ok but it doesnt seem to stay
[04:38] <lumberjack> i did chmod 311 /folder/blah
[04:38] <daniels> root________: ubuntu is vastly different to knoppix.  ubuntu has a linux-restricted-modules image which makes ath available.  should be in the default image.
[04:38] <root________> lumberjack, it should work..
[04:38] <lumberjack> its root only and i want anyone to be able to access it
[04:38] <youth> okay, it still says that wine is not found
[04:39] <lumberjack> it has a mounted serial ata in it
[04:39] <root________> daniels, alright, thank you :)
[04:39] <daniels> root________: (i maintain l-r-m, just can't remember whether or not it's available for net installs since I do them with a wire anyway; seems to be rather required for PXE)
[04:39] <bimberi> dapimp53: ok can you paste the results of "ifconfig" to #flood
[04:39] <reka> youth: post your sources.list to the pastebin linked in the channel topic
[04:39] <josie> where is the alsaconf utility?
[04:39] <youth> where is that?
[04:39] <reka> youth: actually, hangon.
[04:39] <youth> lol
[04:39] <dapimp53> how am i suppose to do that with no internet connection
[04:39] <reka> youth: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38 : ready to use sources.list
[04:40] <bimberi> dapimp53: sry
[04:40] <youth> what do i do with that?
[04:40] <reka> youth: apps > system tools > terminal
[04:40] <reka> youth: then type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:40] <reka> then replace everything in that file, with the stuff in the hyperlinl i sent
[04:40] <dapimp53> under ath0 it doesnt list any ip or anything
[04:40] <Xzallion> Um hold on, I will have to reinstall to check it, as my attempt to set up a vesa driver did not work and leads me to a black screen where I can not access the terminal.  I will be back when I have the message written down k?
[04:41] <root________> daniels, could you check that l-r-m is on the net install CD ?
[04:42] <daniels> root________: oh, net install *cd*?  thought you meant pxe boot.
[04:42] <bimberi> dapimp53: ok - if you click on properties in the Network setting window you should be able to set it up (hopefully)
[04:42] <daniels> root________: no, not really, sorry.  don't have any images to hand, and given australian dsl speeds, you'll be waiting longer for me to check than you could do it.
[04:42] <root________> daniels, lol, I just need to stick a CD in and get sources from the "interweb thingamajigger"
[04:44] <youth> how do i eject the CD again
[04:44] <youth> i forget the code.
[04:44] <youth> it pkill.. something
[04:44] <root________> youth, eject /mnt/cdrom ?
[04:44] <youth> no not that
[04:44] <youth> it was somethin else
[04:44] <youth> ill try
[04:44] <tiglionabbit> bob2: I don't see any library by that name or anything similar....  What GL Library do I need?
[04:45] <youth> that didnt work i am tyrin to get this cd to come out
[04:45] <nickrud> youth first, make sure you have all filemanager windows closed, and try ejecting.
[04:45] <youth> no matter what i do it just wont
[04:45] <ubuntiebuddy> I did something funny like power off while it was changing user info or something, and now when I login to change something, it gives me: "failed to run users-admin   child terminated with 1 status"
[04:45] <bob2> tiglionabbit: xlibmesa-gl-dev
[04:45] <reka> youth: right click on the drive's desktop icon and click unmount/eject
[04:46] <root________> wait..  now that I think about it..  I CAN just download packages from the internet and instal them, right ?  rather than downloading however many CDs ubuntu is supposed to be...
[04:46] <ray_> why wont the java repositories work?
[04:46] <ubuntiebuddy> I can't access administrative privelages, I get "failed to run users-admin  child terminated with 1 status
[04:46] <Discipulus> ifup lo isn't being run at startup, why not?
[04:46] <bob2> root________: ubuntu is one cd
[04:46] <bob2> you could probably do with a less annoying nick, tho
[04:46] <tiglionabbit> bob2: I have that one, but this thing still doesn't detect GL when configuring
[04:46] <reka> ray_: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[04:47] <tiglionabbit> I'm trying to install scourge
[04:47] <ray_> reka, oh thank you
[04:47] <youth> reka where exactly do i put this code?
[04:47] <HaroldJohnson> Hi everyone; can anyone tell me a command that will tell me the disk space I have left on my HD?
[04:47] <bimberi> HaroldJohnson: df
[04:47] <bob2> HaroldJohnson: df -h
[04:48] <HaroldJohnson> Thanks, Bom and Bim
[04:48] <bddebian> HaroldJohnson: Any relation to Howard Johnson? ;-)
[04:48] <reka> youth: you replace the contents of sources.list with it.
[04:48] <youth> all of the contents?
[04:48] <reka> yes
[04:48] <HaroldJohnson> bddebian: We're closing down all our restaurants, sadly.
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> bddebian: You're so original!  ;0
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> ;)
[04:49] <bddebian> heh
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> Okay, because of that, I'm outta here...
[04:49] <nickrud> lol
[04:49] <bddebian> :'-(
[04:49] <HaroldJohnson> Just kidding - I'm going to check my disk space.
[04:50] <root________> does ubuntu use xorg or xfree ?
[04:50] <reka> xorg
[04:50] <reka> well, hoary does.
[04:50] <bddebian> reka: Warty did?
[04:50] <bddebian> Oh :-)
[04:50] <HaroldJohnson> Rumor has it that Warty used xfree?
[04:50] <lwatcdr> Hello any one here gotten the extra buttons in an HP internet keyboard to work?
[04:50] <reka> warty uses xfree
[04:50] <reka> bddebian:  think so
[04:50] <root________> alright..  now I'm curious about something...
[04:51] <HaroldJohnson> (Wait a minute, I'm supposed to not be here.)
[04:51] <reka> lwatcdr: sys > pref > k/b shortcuts
[04:51] <lwatcdr> Tried that reka
[04:51] <root________> If I install today..  when the next version comes out (whatever's after hoary) will I need to reinstall, or just apt-get update whatever ?
[04:51] <youth> reka, still no luck
[04:51] <reka> lwatcdr: ah, you probably have to do it another way then.  'd search ubforums first.
[04:51] <youth> i dunno what the heck happene d
[04:51] <lwatcdr> I set the keyboard to a 5181 but I can not get any of the buttons to assign.
[04:52] <bddebian> root________: Change sources.list, apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <reka> i'd
[04:52] <daniels> root________: dist-upgrade
[04:52] <youth> i replaced EVERYTHING with that code
[04:52] <reka> youth: did you replace it?
[04:52] <reka> youth: you prefer to use synaptic or CL?
[04:52] <youth> synaptic
[04:52] <nickrud> lwatcdr look under system-prefs-keyboard-layouts-keyboard model, if you're lucky it's there.
[04:52] <reka> youth: save the file and close it, then open synaptic and click on reload
[04:52] <reka> then search for wine
[04:53] <lwatcdr> I did look for there nickrud  but There are a couple of keybards. I have no idea which one mine is.
[04:53] <lwatcdr> No labels I did run xkyb from the hotkeys site and it said it was a 5181
[04:53] <nickrud> lwatcdr I'm not sure how to check a keyboard, except to look at the label :)
[04:54] <reka> lwatcdr: look on the bottom :)
[04:54] <reka> or underside rather
[04:54] <lwatcdr> Did that. No clear markings.
[04:54] <reka> how old is it? :-/
[04:54] <lwatcdr> But a pn maybe. 5185
[04:55] <HaroldJohnson> bddebian: After you've updated to Hoary from Warty using apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade, is there anything else that needs to be done?
[04:55] <lwatcdr> Hummm
[04:55] <Ratmann> Hello all
[04:55] <bddebian> HaroldJohnson: Shouldn't be
[04:55] <bddebian> Hello Ratmann
[04:55] <lwatcdr> Now if I can find the correct keyboard layout for it.
[04:55] <Ratmann> Can anyone help me with a quick problem?
[04:56] <ray_> does anybody know how i can have white text on a black background in the terminal?
[04:56] <Ratmann> I'm trying to unrar a file, and i can't seem to get it work extract
[04:56] <lwatcdr> Okay you know I did look at that label about 6 times and did not see that part number.
[04:56] <tiglionabbit> Ratmann: you may need unrar-nonfree
[04:56] <reka> ray_: edit > current pofile > colors tab
[04:56] <tiglionabbit> apt-get it from restricted
[04:56] <Ratmann> Oh
[04:56] <alberto_> Hello
[04:56] <HaroldJohnson> bddebian: After upgrading following that method (apt-get), do I need to move the vmlinux-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-powerpc kernel and initrd.img-<IP_ADDRESS>-3-powerpc file to my Mac partition for BootX?
[04:57] <ray_> reka, thanks....by the way your java adviceworked great! thank you
[04:57] <lwatcdr> thanks reka. No I need to diddybop over to the gnome channel.
[04:57] <nickrud> tiglionabbit Ratmann not to butt in, but unrar-nonfree is in multiverse
[04:57] <reka> ray_: it should've.  an op wrote the instructions. :)
[04:57] <Ratmann> Lemme try and find it
[04:57] <Ratmann> Hm
[04:58] <Ratmann> Dunno
[04:58] <Ratmann> I'm pretty new to linux soo
[04:58] <bddebian> HaroldJohnson: Ugh, bootx.. :-)  Yes, probably
[04:58] <comadreja> how do I make an automatic reconfig of xorg ?
[04:59] <ray_> reka, after all this time those colors were that easy tochange....lol
[04:59] <HaroldJohnson> bddebian: When does the kernel change?  During every upgrade, even of packages?  Do you know by any chance?
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> nickrud: thank you
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> Ratmann: you may want to read the repositories howto then
[04:59] <ray_> what theme do you guys use?
[04:59] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[04:59] <ubotu> repositories is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:59] <nickrud> Ratmann then, ubuntu sources come from four places: main (the free stuff canonical provides) restricted (the non free stuff that canonical provides)
[05:00] <Ratmann> Hm
[05:00] <nickrud> universe (the free stuff that volunteers provide) and multiverse (the non free stuff that volunteers provide)
[05:00] <reka> ray_: Human.  i just change the window border to clearlooks-deepsky.
[05:00] <bddebian> Doesn't Ubuntu have virtual ttys you can switch to?
[05:02] <nickrud> Ratmann and tiglionabbit has pointed you towards getting them all :)
[05:02] <comadreja> please, I've got a screwed breezy, and X won't start. How do I make an automatic reconfig of X
[05:02] <Victus> Hey is anyone else having trouble playing quicktime videos?
[05:02] <Ratmann> hehe
[05:03] <reka> comadreja: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will attempt to reconfigure it
[05:03] <comadreja> reka: something more like... the installer, that asks no questions ?
[05:04] <bimberi> bddebian: If you mean <ctrl><alt>F1 to F6  - then yes
[05:04] <reka> afaik, nothing exists for that.  which is why you should backup before changing it. sorry
[05:05] <bddebian> bimberi: Yes, they have them or yes, the don't? :-)
[05:06] <bimberi> bddebian: ubuntu has them :)
[05:06] <bddebian> bimberi: Then why can't I switch to them? :-)
[05:06] <misfit_toy> best dvd bin/cue burner for ubuntu is?
[05:06] <bimberi> comadreja: Maybe "sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg" is worth a try
[05:07] <bimberi> bddebian: sry don't know - remapped k/b shortcut ?
[05:08] <bddebian> bimberi: It switches but I don't get a prompt, it's a blank screen
[05:08] <trebuchet> hello
[05:09] <nickrud> now, that is a nick, trebuchet :)
[05:09] <trebuchet> :)
[05:09] <jasoncohen> why the hell hasn't jdong removed konversation 0.18 from backports? it has a broken dependency which requires kdelibs4 3.4.1 and this prevents kubuntu-desktop from being installed
[05:09] <adwait> hehe
[05:09] <eL_DemeNteGT> #ubuntu-es
[05:09] <jasoncohen> and ubuntu users are being told to install KDE 3.4.1 to fix the problem when they only have to do sudo apt-get install konversation=0.16-1ubuntu1
[05:10] <trebuchet> yup, anybody who's anybody loves medievel weaponry :-D
[05:10] <adwait> heh
[05:10] <nickrud> hm, maybe I'll try mangonel
[05:10] <nickrud> if I could spell
[05:10] <adwait> lol.i hv seen everyone of them only in AOE
[05:10] <adwait> :D
[05:10] <adwait> magonel?
[05:11] <trebuchet> greekfire... brownies... pitchfork
[05:12] <bimberi> bddebian: I have a number of processes with /sbin/getty 38400 tty# - I wonder what starts those
[05:12] <reka> jasoncohen: can't you email the dev then?
[05:13] <bddebian> If Recovery Mode asks for a root password, what do you use?
[05:13] <jasoncohen> reka, i made several posts telling users how to fix the problem and i created a new thread on the backports forum telling jdong to fix the problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47258
[05:13] <bob2> bddebian: it doesn't
[05:13] <Aerebus> Samus_Aran you in here?
[05:13] <reka> ah, i see.
[05:13] <jasoncohen> reka, it amazes me that other ubuntu users are telling people to install KDE 3.4.1 to fix this issue. Talk about overkill
[05:13] <bddebian> bob2: It's asking ubuntiebuddy for one.  "Enter root password or Ctl-D to continue"
[05:13] <lumberjack> when i mounted my /dev/sda1 it changed the folder i mounted it in permissions