[11:52] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:57] <lione> hello people such sing: after /etc/init.d/zaptel start next output: zaptel telephony kernel driver:FATAL: Module ztdummy not found
[11:59] <lione> what does that mean?
[11:59] <lione> I have installed asterisk and zaptel on ubuntu server 7
[12:00] <yamal> lione: you still need to get the module on your system
[12:00] <lione> where can I get it?
[12:00] <yamal> zaptel module is listed in 'module-assistant', try compiling from there
[12:00] <lione> I'm using digium tdm 22b
[12:01] <lione> there is no way to solve this without compilation?
[12:04] <yamal> lione: it probably isn't listed in module-assistant if there wouldn't be a need to compile it.
[12:04] <yamal> and at least this way it's easy
[12:09] <tezza> could someone ping an address for me and let me know the results...
[12:12] <pag> tezza, "ping: unknown host an address" :P
[12:12] <tezza> heh...
[12:13] <pag> telling the address might help further experiments ;)
[12:13] <tezza> look in priv ;oP
[12:14] <pag> tezza, you're not registered, are you?
[12:14] <tezza> nope
[12:14] <pag> !register | tezza
[12:14] <ubotu> tezza: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:20] <dhq> how to kill the usb device manager
[12:20] <krowz> hello
[12:22] <pag> dhq, kill <process id>
[12:23] <pag> dhq, you can search for pid  with ie.  ps aux | grep something
[12:24] <dhq> pag, well i pluged in my pendrive
[12:25] <dhq> pag, it is not recognised and there is a message whcich keeps on looping
[12:25] <pag> dhq, hmm.. dunno then :-/
[12:26] <dhq>  [929880.072000]  sdc : READ CAPACITY failed. [929880.072000]  sdc : status=0, message=00, host=1, driver=00 [929880.072000]  sdc : sense not available. [929880.072000]  sdc: Write Protect is off [929880.072000]  sdc: Mode Sense: 00 00 00 00  [929880.072000]  sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
[12:31] <krowz> could someone help me with my wireless
[12:31] <pag> !wireless | krowz
[12:31] <ubotu> krowz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:31] <bliss> hi
[12:32] <Stranger> does anyone see what i'm writing?
[12:34] <dhq> Stranger, lol i see
[12:41] <leus> watz more better glom or kexi?
[12:45] <dhq> how to unload and reload  all modules without restart
[12:45] <Lynoure> leus: try both, and you'll see which is better for you
[01:01] <francesco> !it
[01:01] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:02] <heeven> !joomla
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joomla - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <francesco> !channel #kubuntu-it
[01:03] <heeven> there arent any packages for joomla?
[01:04] <pag> !find joomla
[01:04] <ubotu> Package/file joomla does not exist in feisty
[01:04] <heeven> :( thanks
[01:12] <heeven> !find apache
[01:12] <ubotu> Found: apache2, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-event, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 160 others)
[01:12] <bubbleit_> Folks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?
[01:13] <Gh0Sty2K> Folks anyone managed to get ubuntu working on a cobalt raq?
[01:17] <emilsedgh> heeven: why do you want to install Joomla from a package? thats really not a good solution, I Think
[01:17] <utente> ciao
[01:18] <heeven> emilsedgh: just seeing if it have. i already have the tarball. now im having problems installing apache. it givesme one error with a library i think
[01:19] <emilsedgh> heeven: dunno, Apache is a common package, should work... sudo apt-get install apach2 ;)
[01:21] <heeven> yes
[01:21] <heeven> with synaptic it givesme and error, with sudo apt-get it went nice :p
[01:21] <heeven> *an
[01:24] <emilsedgh> heeven: ah, I really miss synaptic in KDE.Adept is cool but that Search While typing makes me crazy!.also very bad informations while downloading..It should be improved
[01:24] <heeven> emilsedgh: yap
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> Folks
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> how do i login to ssh on ubuntu, it wont recognise my pass
[01:25] <_ubuntu> hi
[01:25] <_ubuntu> no offence with the nick its just that i am on a live cd
[01:25] <GhOsty2K> nevermind sorted it
[01:26] <GhOsty2K> ;)
[01:26] <heeven> but now i have another problem. he let me install things with sudo, but when i do "su -", i says "authentication failure", it shouldnt be the same password?
[01:27] <_ubuntu> cahoot: thanks for your help before as andyp startx worked fine
[01:39] <GhOsty2K> how do i change the permission for ssh on ubuntu ?
[01:40] <Dragnslcr> What permission?
[01:44] <GhOsty2K> Well it seems like ssh is working, but wont give me permission to make changes to system files
[01:44] <GhOsty2K> so i would like to know how i would go about changing permission settings using ssh?
[01:44] <Dragnslcr> Probably because the user you're logged in as doesn't have write permission to those files
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> SSH doesn't affect permissions in any way. You have exactly the same permissions as you would if you were sitting in front of the computer
[01:45] <GhOsty2K> ahh ok
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> ill investigate
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> Normally only root can edit system files
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> what would the password for root be?
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> There isn't one, normally
[01:46] <GhOsty2K> proabbly be the same as my user then
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> You use sudo for root operations
[01:47] <GhOsty2K> but when i ssh it wont let me login as sudo
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> and when i login as root it wont accpet the password, im using winscp you see to do file operations and i cant sudo using that
[01:48] <Lynoure> login as sudo? what's that?
[01:48] <Lynoure> you mean login as root?
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> <<< newbie here!
[01:48] <GhOsty2K> yup
[01:48] <Dragnslcr> You'd have to scp the files to your home directory then use a shell login to move the files
[01:49] <ja> witam
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> ohh well.. ill try that.
[01:49] <Lynoure> GhOsty2K: usually good thing to forbid. you can  sudo su  to root if you really need to
[01:49] <ja> jakie jest domyslne haslo dla superusera w systemie Ola Dom ?
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> Lynoure np..
[01:49] <GhOsty2K> thanks
[01:51] <GhOsty2K> whats the apt-get name for zend optimizer?
[01:59] <xtf> hallo?
[02:00] <xtf> Am i all alone????????????????????
[02:01] <CerebralGump> nope
[02:01] <xtf> im such a newbie :-(
[02:01] <CerebralGump> Its just quiet at the moment
[02:01] <xtf> hey tell me hows xmms compare 2 amarok?
[02:01] <CerebralGump> It doesn't ?
[02:01] <CerebralGump> Amarok > xmms
[02:02] <xtf> does xmms have all restricted drivers?
[02:02] <xtf> (im new to kubuntu)
[02:02] <CerebralGump> codecs
[02:02] <xtf> yea
[02:02] <CerebralGump> thats a separate issue
[02:02] <CerebralGump> !codecs
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:03] <CerebralGump> thankyou ubotu
[02:03] <xtf> i doint get lots of time on the net so im getting what i can my dads house
[02:03] <xtf> windows brain washed me (fuck windows!!!) i think
[02:03] <Riddell> !language
[02:03] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:03] <xtf> oops !
[02:04] <xtf> sorry to all!
[02:05] <xtf> last thing i want to know is, is there a aptoncd for kubuntu?
[02:05] <xtf> if some one can help me?
[02:05] <CerebralGump> !repositories
[02:05] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:05] <xtf> no
[02:06] <xtf> i want to put some stuff on a cd like aptoncd
[02:06] <xtf> so i doint need internet
[02:06] <xtf> (becuase i doint have internet)
[02:06] <CerebralGump> ok
[02:06] <xtf> sooo um can you help?
[02:07] <CerebralGump> I'm googling
[02:07] <xtf> thanx
[02:08] <xtf> so how old are u?
[02:09] <CerebralGump> Try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352460
[02:09] <xtf> ok
[02:09] <xtf> so how old are u?
[02:10] <CerebralGump> You will need good bandwidth for this
[02:11] <CerebralGump> Its an overnight job
[02:11] <xtf> ?
[02:11] <xtf> doint get it?
[02:11] <CerebralGump> And 35GB free disk space
[02:12] <xtf> ok? sure? what?
[02:12] <CerebralGump> You could probably ask someone to download it all for you
[02:12] <CerebralGump> Repositories
[02:12] <CerebralGump> So you have them on DVD
[02:12] <xtf> oh
[02:12] <xtf> yea but who?
[02:13] <xtf> i live in south africa
[02:13] <xtf> (capetown)
[02:13] <CerebralGump> You have any friends with an unlimited broadband connection ?
[02:13] <crypt> Sysinfo for 'erz0': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2500+ at 1837 MHz (3678 bogomips), , RAM: 374/503MB, 107 proc's, 2.40min up
[02:13] <xtf> i wish!
[02:14] <CerebralGump> ok
[02:14] <xtf> hey thanks for all your help
[02:14] <CerebralGump> Could try something like this: http://on-disk.com/product_info.php/products_id/278
[02:17] <CerebralGump> AptOnCD wont do you any good unless you have a good broadband connection with which to create it
[02:17] <xtf> damn i doint have that type of cash $29.95 (yet i will have to save up)
[02:17] <xtf> oh
[02:19] <CerebralGump> Do you have any good PC places in Capetown ? ie. Where would you go if your PC died ?
[02:20] <xtf> yes im sure there is one...
[02:21] <xtf> why?
[02:21] <CerebralGump> You could ask them if they will do it for you
[02:21] <xtf> not a bad idea?
[02:22] <xtf> If they are not stingy
[02:22] <xtf> (with the net)
[02:22] <CerebralGump> Well it is a rather large download
[02:22] <xtf> my mouse is stuck?
[02:22] <xtf> oh sorry i kciked the cabel
[02:22] <CerebralGump> What kind of connection do you have right now ?
[02:22] <xtf> kicked
[02:23] <xtf> now at my das i have a adsl mega 100wr
[02:23] <xtf> and i only have like 20 min's left to use before i go to my mom (that sucks)
[02:24] <CerebralGump> At your dads ?
[02:24] <xtf> i like kubuntu alot but its so hard to get software
[02:24] <xtf> yea
[02:24] <xtf> im poor
[02:24] <CerebralGump> Why don't you just download the packages you want and get some updates while you can
[02:24] <xtf> thats what i just did
[02:24] <xtf> well i got xmms
[02:24] <xtf> and ruby
[02:25] <xtf> oh and java jdk 1.6
[02:25] <CerebralGump> kubuntu already has amarok
[02:25] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d182ca1cf  apache2 installation error
[02:25] <xtf> yea but i heard that xmms comes with drivers
[02:25] <CerebralGump> you didn't need xmms
[02:26] <CerebralGump> you needed multimedia codecs
[02:26] <xtf> i know it was a dumb move on my part
[02:26] <xtf> what to download?
[02:26] <CerebralGump> !codecs
[02:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:27] <_ubuntu> hi
[02:27] <CerebralGump> hi
[02:27] <_ubuntu> am useing an old kubuntu live cd what are the new sorces.list entries where can i find them
[02:27] <Martiini> I want to remove dodumentation in other languages /usr/share/man/es , /usr/share/man/fi /usr/share/man/fr
[02:27] <Martiini> Please
[02:28] <Martiini> _ubuntu type sources.list generator in googe and choose first result
[02:28] <ksivaji> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[02:28] <ksivaji> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[02:28] <ksivaji> Unable to open logs
[02:28] <CerebralGump> xtf: click those links and save the pages so you can read them offline, so next time youre connected you'll know what you need to download
[02:29] <Martiini> heiii
[02:29] <Martiini> anyone
[02:29] <Martiini> ??!!
[02:29] <xtf> yea i will do that
[02:29] <CerebralGump> Martiini: use Adept
[02:29] <xtf> hey where you live
[02:29] <ksivaji> CerebralGump do you any suggestion for me
[02:29] <xtf> why u use kubuntu?
[02:29] <_ubuntu> Martini; thanks
[02:30] <xtf> (ure a guru evry one needs you)
[02:30] <CerebralGump> ksivaji: sorry I'm not up to speed on Apache
[02:30] <CerebralGump> xtf: cause I like kubuntu
[02:31] <xtf> no not what i mean (there are so many like fedora why did you choose kubuntu?)
[02:31] <CerebralGump> cause I like it
[02:31] <CerebralGump> :p
[02:31] <xtf> ok :-) lol
[02:32] <llutz> xtf: how can one like something rpm-based? ;)
[02:32] <CerebralGump> And I prefer apt distros
[02:32] <xtf> becuase i can download at the internet shop
[02:32] <xtf> a .rpm package
[02:32] <Martiini> xtf .. hei! you want to have a discussion about distro preferences
[02:32] <Martiini> ?
[02:33] <xtf> not much to say about it
[02:33] <xtf> but yes sure
[02:33] <CerebralGump> you can download packages for kubuntu at the internet cafe also
[02:33] <xtf> i wish kubuntu had deb and rpm
[02:33] <xtf> how?
[02:34] <CerebralGump> the internet...
[02:34] <Martiini> xtf alien package
[02:34] <xtf> doint i need my pc there?
[02:34] <Martiini> for rpm
[02:34] <CerebralGump> no
[02:34] <xtf> i mean om my memory stick
[02:34] <CerebralGump> yes
[02:34] <Martiini> xtf - Are YOu listening ,,, hey?
[02:34] <llutz> using alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless
[02:34] <xtf> yea i am
[02:35] <Martiini> llutz  "using alien-rpm isn't recommended and in most cases useless" Why ?
[02:35] <xtf> rpm and deb
[02:35] <Martiini> I thought you need alien to install rpm
[02:35] <xtf> ?
[02:35] <xtf> i heard that
[02:35] <llutz> Martiini: converted rpms can cause severe trouble in you system, the dependencies, pathes etc. may vary
[02:35] <xtf> that sucks
[02:36] <xtf> but what if i wanted to download vlc
[02:36] <llutz> Martiini: its always better to look for 3rd-party deb instead to convert rpms
[02:36] <Martiini> k, so If debian is missing a package its best to compile from source ??
[02:36] <yamal> xtf: you are located in cape town?
[02:36] <CerebralGump> xtf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:36] <llutz> xtf there are vlc.debs
[02:36] <Martiini> k , talk to you laters , thanks for help
[02:36] <xtf> i cant find them
 yea in the strand
[02:37] <xtf> then i am dumb!
[02:37] <xtf> sorry i did not know that
[02:37] <yamal> xtf: this might be helpful to overcome your problem of limited internet access: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#UCT_Freedom_Toaster
[02:38] <llutz> xtf you haven't searched: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[02:38] <CerebralGump> xtf: Search for packages here http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or browse packages http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/
[02:39] <yamal> xtf: it appears to include a full 4 dvd set of ubuntu packages, ready to go/burn
[02:39] <xtf> yamal where you live?
[02:39] <yamal> netherlands
[02:40] <xtf> that sucks
[02:40] <yamal> not really :)
[02:40] <CerebralGump> yamal: the freedom toaster looks pretty cool
[02:41] <CerebralGump> xtf: You live in CapeTown ?
[02:41] <yamal> CerebralGump: indeed, certainly if xtf's problem with inet access is common in south africa
[02:41] <CerebralGump> xtf: The Freedom Toaster is at UCT
[02:41] <xtf> yea
[02:42] <xtf> where?
[02:42] <CerebralGump> UCT
[02:42] <CerebralGump> University of Cape Town
[02:42] <yamal> xtf: read the link I posted a few minutes ago
[02:42] <llutz> xtf: http://wiki.clug.org.za/wiki/Freedom_Toaster#Where
[02:42] <xtf> oh (sorry for the dumb question)
[02:42] <xtf> yea sorry im a little slow today
[02:42] <yamal> looks like it's free if you bring your own writable dvds
[02:42] <xtf> so much to get so little time
[02:43] <CerebralGump> Go and hug the freedom toaster
[02:43] <yamal> or a laptop
[02:43] <CerebralGump> ;)
[02:44] <xtf> i will when i see if it worx
[02:44] <xtf> damn the updates are taking long
[02:45] <xtf> now at 14%
[02:45] <xtf> how to save a page on konqueror and read it offline?
[02:46] <CerebralGump> location > save as
[02:46] <xtf> ?
[02:46] <xtf> oh sorry
[02:47] <xtf> never mind what i sead
[02:47] <xtf> yippy its saved
[02:47] <CerebralGump> :)
[02:48] <xtf> CerebralGump whats your email? (when i need help or a frend?)
[02:48] <CerebralGump> use my msn
[02:49] <xtf> ok
[02:49] <CerebralGump><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:49] <xtf> its CerebralGump?
[02:50] <xtf> ok my one is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:50] <CerebralGump> k
[02:51] <xtf> hey im not raceist but is it true that there are almost no black peapol in australia?
[02:51] <xtf> (sorry my spelling)
[02:51] <CerebralGump> no
[02:51] <xtf> oh cool
[02:51] <xtf> my cuz whent there and he says that
[02:52] <xtf> not that im black
[02:52] <CerebralGump> ...
[02:52] <xtf> but just wondaring
[02:52] <xtf> im talking crap again...
[02:53] <xtf> hey i gota go chat again one day....... i hope?
[02:53] <aluno> oi
[02:53] <CerebralGump> no problem
[02:53] <aluno> tudo bom ?
[02:53] <xtf> thanks for the help chow
[02:54] <CerebralGump> np cya
[02:55] <aluno> hhmh
[02:55] <aluno> oi
[02:58] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[02:58] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:03] <blithen> Why won't Kubuntu read my reiserfs drive?
[03:04] <llutz> blithen: it should, reiser3 exists as a kernel-module
[03:05] <blithen> Well. Some programs do. Such as Qtparted and a few others.
[03:05] <blithen> But when I got to /media.
[03:05] <blithen> It's not there
[03:07] <mick__> hi - does anyone know what to do if the auto mount of usb devices stops working?
[03:07] <mick__> ...short of a reboot
[03:08] <mick__> syslog reports the usb device appearing - udevmonitor also - no mount occurs
[03:08] <RadiantFire_> mick__: try logging out and logging back in
[03:08] <RadiantFire_> i know, almost a reboot, but sometimes it works
[03:10] <mick__> I'm trying to avoid logging out too - too much work to get done here!
[03:13] <mick__> hmm, didn't work - can I somehow restart udev or something?
[03:14] <ksivaji> !adeptfix
[03:14] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:14] <_bonD_> can I use the primary boot partition (the one containing GRUB) as the linux swap partition as well ? If not, what's the minimum size of the partition that would contain grub ?
[03:14] <leus> how do i install kde 3.5.7 in my kubuntu 7.04 (feisty)?
[03:17] <mick__> anybody know how the automounting of usb devices is supposed to work?
[03:18] <_bonD_> rightclick your contact and click desktop jussi01
[03:19] <jussi01> _bonD_: no, konversation. when the program starts, I want it to start minimised to tray, not fullscreen window
[03:21] <llutz> _bonD_: activate systray-icon in settings, then it should start minimized
[03:21] <caboose_1980> ,
[03:22] <aguitel> anyone know how Beryl is working in kubuntu ?
[03:23] <mick__> aguitel: works fine here on i810 gfx
[03:24] <aguitel> mick_ ,what means i810gfx ?
[03:25] <aguitel> i have Nvidia card Geoforce mx440
[03:25] <mick__> aguitel: intel i810 graphics chipset
[03:25] <mick__> beryl works well on nvidia driver too
[03:26] <aguitel> and in my video card?
[03:27] <mick__> aguitel: try it and see!
[03:27] <aguitel> mick_ ,tell me the url to download Beryl?
[03:27] <mick__> aguitel: beryl can be installed with apt-get
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> aguitel: thats gonna be very rough running beryl on that card
[03:27] <llutz> !beryl
[03:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> you will have to install xgl, and your performance will be terrible
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> just wanring you.
[03:28] <aguitel> mick_ ,i am new in linux ubuntu
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> *warning
[03:29] <aguitel> what is xgl ?
[03:29] <mick__> aguitel: you can probably also install it with the "add/remove programs" menu option
[03:30] <aguitel> what is xgl ?
[03:31] <mick__> xgl is a compositing x-server -- and the next question is... :)
[03:32] <mick__> aguitel: don't worry about it - get help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:32] <mick__> it might work well for you - I ran it on an old geforce 4mx OK
[03:33] <aguitel> ok
[03:33] <mick__> ...not fast but some fun effects
[03:33] <dhq> !apache
[03:33] <aguitel> ok thanks
[03:33] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:36] <heeven> how can i see my php version, apache and php?
[03:37] <heeven> *mysql sorry
[03:37] <nosrednaekim> "mysql --version"
[03:38] <heeven> and apache and php?
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> apache should be the same
[03:39] <heeven> ok thanks :)
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> "apache --version"
[03:39] <nosrednaekim> I don't have apache installed so I don't know
[03:43] <ksivaji> http://pastebin.com/d5d2a5db8
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> and what are we looking at ksivaji?
[03:44] <ksivaji> nosrednaekim i cant start apache2 why ?
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> ksivaji: GO TO #APACHE
[03:47] <dromer> how can I see what codec a certian avi is encoded with?
[03:48] <[GuS] > ksivaji: that is not usefull information, you should post your apache error log
[03:48] <[GuS] > which is inside /var/log/apache2/
[03:48] <ksivaji> ok wait
[03:49] <ksivaji> error.log is empty
[03:49] <ksivaji> [GuS]
[03:49] <[GuS] > mm...
[03:50] <[GuS] > thats kind impossible indeed... cause there apache keeps log even when you start the server
[03:51] <ksivaji> [GuS]  i cant start apache
[03:52] <llutz> dromer: "file <video.avi>"
[03:52] <[GuS] > "Unable to open logs  this is why does not keep logs
[03:52] <[GuS] > weird..
[03:53] <[GuS] > and without the error on the log is hard to catch what is happening
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> can you start apache as a normal user?
[03:53] <ksivaji> [GuS]  my httpd.conf and apache.conf is empty
[03:53] <[GuS] > apache.conf empty?
[03:53] <[GuS] > there you have a problem
[03:53] <dromer> llutz: thnx
[03:53] <[GuS] > if why apache does not start
[03:54] <[GuS] > apache2.conf comes with the installation
[03:54] <ksivaji> [GuS]  i installed all the apache plugins
[03:54] <[GuS] > with default configuration
[03:54] <[GuS] > ksivaji: you dont need that...
[03:54] <[GuS] > you have a installation problem there, is imposible to have apache2.conf empty
[03:54] <dromer> llutz: alice_01.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 320 x 240, 23.98 fps, video:  << this doesn't say what codec it is ..
[03:54] <[GuS] > you should delete and purge all configuration from apache, and install it again
[03:54] <ksivaji> [GuS]  do you have apache2 can you pastebin your apache2.conf
[03:55] <[GuS] > ksivaji: that is not enought indeed
[03:55] <[GuS] > cause i have my own configuration there...
[03:55] <llutz> dromer: here"alien_vs_predator.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)"
[03:55] <[GuS] > just try what i told you
[03:55] <ksivaji> [GuS]  ok
[03:55] <dromer> llutz: hmmm
[03:56] <ksivaji> [GuS]  you want me to do thsi "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2"
[03:57] <ksivaji> [GuS]  :
[03:57] <[GuS] > the --purge goes at the end
[03:58] <[GuS] > and make sure to delete (if not with purse) the apache2 dir, so when you install it again, it will create the confs.
[04:14] <e1mer> hello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?
[04:14] <e1mer> anyone?
[04:14] <e1mer> hello all, im trying up aquamarine decorator, how to i switch themes?
[04:15] <slougi> e1mer: if i remember correctly just change the theme in the system settings
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> use the kde window decorations settings
[04:16] <ksivaji> !info apache2
[04:16] <ubotu> apache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2build1 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
[04:20] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone have any idea how to make a password protected pendrive? In the way that I could just insert my pen drive, and kubuntu would ask me a password to mount it?
[04:20] <e1mer> slougi: nosrednaekim, thanks
[04:29] <master_> how rotate the cube in beryl?
[04:29] <e1mer> is there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy
[04:29] <kosch_afk> CTRL + Mouse i think
[04:29] <kosch_afk> or alt
[04:29] <e1mer> master_: i use ctrl+alt + mouse
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> master_: ctrl+alt+arrow buttons
[04:30] <kosch_afk> or both - yep :D
[04:30] <e1mer> is there a guide now for upgrading feisty to gutsy
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> e1mer: yeah, its on kubuntu.org
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> under the latest tribe release notes
[04:34] <kogo__> what's the easiest way of changing the default KDM login theme?
[04:35] <e1mer> thanks again nosrednaekim
[04:36] <nosrednaekim> NP
[04:42] <someguy> hello everyone
[04:42] <vbhide> hi
[04:42] <someguy> can anyone help me find a USB PCI card that will work with Kubuntu?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> hey
[04:42] <someguy> hey guys
[04:42] <someguy> i have run out of usb slots
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> use a hub..
[04:43] <llutz> someguy: i haven't seen one, not working ;)
[04:43] <someguy> i have
[04:43] <someguy> =P
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> wow....
[04:43] <someguy> forums seem to show some as problematic
[04:46] <someguy> llutz so should i not go with some random chinese no name brand?
[04:47] <someguy> that is what i had and it didn't work
[04:47] <llutz> someguy: i have used 5-7 of the cheapest pci-cards i could get in .de, never had any problem with them. NEC or TI Chipsets
[04:47] <someguy> llutz - thats what I was looking for
[04:47] <someguy> llutz - thanks
[04:48] <someguy> going 2 ebay now
[04:57] <someguy> llutz - just got one for <$10. Thanks man! =) have a good one
[05:00] <ubuntu__> join/ irc.p2p-network.com
[05:00] <ubuntu__> join /irc.p2p-network.com
[05:00] <ubuntu__> damn
[05:05] <Martiini> Hei (again)!!  I want to set Konsole/bash  cache/(text scrollback)   to unlimited (infinite) , please
[05:08] <NickPresta> Martiini, Settings > History > Set Unlimited
[05:08] <NickPresta> That should do it
[05:11] <Aliyns> hi
[05:11] <Martiini> NickPresta:  Is that for command history or whole output (scrollback) history?
[05:11] <NickPresta> !hi | Aliyns
[05:11] <ubotu> Aliyns: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:12] <Martiini> I thought it just for command history
[05:12] <Martiini> and I need to use "script" to log bash output ??
[05:12] <Martiini> right??
[05:12] <Aliyns> I was wondering if someone could help me.. I just installed Kubuntu on my desktop using the Alternate CD, I have a 8800GTS it has finished installing but now all I get is a black screen because I'm assuming theres no video drivers or something for it. I have no other video card and wanted to know if there was any other way I can download and install the nvidia drivers on the computer.
[05:12] <Martiini> ok, nevermind
[05:13] <NickPresta> Martiini, I believe it is the numbers of lines in your scrolling history. You can check out ~/.bash_history and ~/.bash_* for more configuration options
[05:13] <Martiini> NickPresta:  Danke Thank you
[05:14] <Martiini> BTW  KDE has become ONE AWSOME desktop :)
[05:14] <NickPresta> Aliyns, you can reconfigure X so you get a GUI, then you can install the appropriate drivers.
[05:14] <Aliyns> Any documentation on how to do that?
[05:14] <Martiini> Im well happy with the direction kde is going to :)
[05:14] <runlevelten> Martiini: Glad you like it.
[05:14] <Martiini> :) Thanks
[05:14] <Dr_willis> I wonder if the !nvidia page has info on the 8800
[05:14] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:15] <Dr_willis> The 8800 i hear requires the newest nvidia drivers, which are not in th repos. yet.
[05:15] <NickPresta> !xconfig | Aliyns
[05:15] <ubotu> Aliyns: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[05:15] <Aliyns> How do I do this on the computer that has no video output tho?
[05:16] <Martiini> on command line?
[05:16] <Aliyns> I just get a black screen no flashing cursor no nothing.
[05:16] <Martiini> ok, blah ,
[05:17] <NickPresta> Aliyns, when you're at the black screen, switch to tty (Press Control+Alt+F1-8) IIRC.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> booot to single user mode. edit the xorg.conf file to use the 'vesa' driver, then you shoul dbe able to get a default/slow X gui at least.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-F1 'might' get you to a console.
[05:18] <Martiini> Aliyns:  so you get NO output from your video card WHATSOEVER?
[05:18] <Dr_willis> dependong on how badly the drivers crashed.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> If it dosent work , use the rescue/single user mode feature
[05:18] <Aliyns> I get no output thats right but my screen doesn't go on to standby as if it were getting no signal.
[05:19] <Dr_willis> Aliyns,  you dont have3 a tv hooked up as well do you?
[05:19] <Martiini> bye, seeya :)
[05:19] <Aliyns> Nope, ctrl-alt-F1-8 got me no where either. :(
[05:20] <Dr_willis> you are using the FUNCTION keys right/ not 1, :) but F1
[05:20] <Aliyns> Yeah I'm definatly sure :P
[05:21] <NickPresta> Aliyns, well, you could always pop in the LiveCD, mount the HDD and then change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "vesa" drivers as Dr_willis suggested.
[05:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[05:21] <Dr_willis> if he can get to the grub menu,s and boot to single user mode (rescue mode) he wont need to mess weith the live cd.
[05:21] <Aliyns> Yeah, the problem with that is... The live CD doesn't work either I get the same problem hence why I used the Alternate to install.
[05:22] <Aliyns> I'll reboot and check if I can get into the grub menu.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> sounds tome  like you need to hit the forums to find the proper way to get the nvidia drivers for the 8800 card.
[05:22] <NickPresta> Hey BluesKaj
[05:22] <Dr_willis> or try that vesa stuff.. but heck that might not even work.
[05:22] <BluesKaj> hi NickPresta
[05:23] <Aliyns> Recovery mode looking good I got a command line now :D
[05:23] <karthik> any 1 from India
[05:24] <karthik> Any one who want to help me in electronics / C++ ?
[05:25] <NickPresta> karthik, this is a channel for Kubuntu help. Freenode has a C++ channel - I'm sure they would be able to help you better than we would.
[05:25] <karthik> OK
[05:26] <karthik> so who has what doubt in Kubuntu?
[05:26] <karthik> Im good at it
[05:27] <karthik> Look's like none has any doubut?!
[05:27] <karthik> HELLOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:28] <NickPresta> karthik, what are you going on about?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <karthik> well you said this is for Kubuntu help
[05:28] <NickPresta> karthik, yes?
[05:29] <karthik> so I am asking people weather they need any help
[05:29] <Tm_T> haha
[05:29] <NickPresta> karthik, if people need help, they will usually ask :)
[05:30] <karthik> Ok I have a doubt?
[05:30] <karthik> how to goto C++ discussion room?
[05:30] <Aliyns> Live i got myself a gui using vesa.. Any clue on wether Envy will install the right drivers or I have to download some beta drivers for 8800's?
[05:30] <karthik> is there any?
[05:31] <NickPresta> karthik, /join ##c++
[05:32] <Dr_willis> Aliyns,  ive never used envy - but aparantly a lot of people do.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Aliyns: if you're running Feisty , Envy won't work , it's unsatble or broken depending on your graphics
[05:32] <BluesKaj> unstable
[05:32] <NickPresta> Aliyns, try `nvidia-glx-new` from the repos.
[05:32] <BluesKaj> Aliyns, I already tried Envy
[05:33] <Aliyns> Damn, I am using fiesty... whats the command line to use the nvidia-glx-new drivers?
[05:33] <NickPresta> Aliyns, or get `restricted-manager` and tick off graphics card.
[05:33] <karthik> Thanks a lot Nick
[05:34] <BluesKaj> it's too bad cuz Envy did work quite well in edgy
[05:34] <karthik> another doubt
[05:34] <karthik> how to find out what channels are available ?
[05:34] <NickPresta> karthik, /list
[05:34] <BluesKaj> doubt ? ...look up the meaning, karthik
[05:35] <Aliyns> restricted-manager is available through Adept?
[05:35] <NickPresta> Aliyns, `sudo apt-get install restricted-manager`
[05:36] <karthik> fine, very well
[05:36] <karthik> this is the first time I'm using IRC
[05:37] <Aliyns> Thanks NickPresta, I'm currently doing updates now so I have to wait till they finish before I continue but it gives me time to research.
[05:37] <karthik> what you do nick?
[05:37] <runlevelten> karthik: Good stuff :) There is help functionality available in IRC, incidentally.
[05:38] <karthik> ya I am reding help
[05:39] <runlevelten> karthik: Great.
[05:39] <Aliyns> Just a quick stupid question, in regards to video card drivers does it matter wether I am using Kubuntu, Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[05:39] <cloakable> No
[05:40] <runlevelten> What cloakable said.
[05:40] <karthik> Video card :no it dosent, just install the video card driver using Automatix
[05:40] <Aliyns> I am using Kubuntu x64 does this matter?
[05:40] <karthik> get automatix at getautomatix.com
[05:40] <karthik> no
[05:40] <runlevelten> Do NOT use automatix.
[05:40] <NickPresta> I strongly recommend against automatix. It has broken many systems
[05:40] <moriancumer> I agree DO NOT use automatix
[05:41] <karthik> if you use it on X64 processor all will be fine
[05:41] <cloakable> !automatix | Aliyns
[05:41] <ubotu> Aliyns: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[05:41] <karthik> advanced users must avoid automatix
[05:41] <Tm_T> any user
[05:41] <Tm_T> I repeat, any user
[05:41] <karthik> OK I agree any user
[05:41] <runlevelten> There is an easy-to-use GUI tool called "restricted-manager" you can install and use if you wish for a point and click way of installing proprietary graphics drivers
[05:42] <karthik> but automatix makes things easy
[05:42] <karthik> I have never heard of restricted manager
[05:42] <Aliyns> Okay, so it doesn't matter wether I'm using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or wether I'm using 32bit or 64bit.
[05:42] <Tm_T> karthik: ina wrong way
[05:42] <Assid> today isnt a good computer day
[05:42] <karthik> how to open it up?
[05:43] <karthik> its better to stick with 32-bit
[05:43] <Aliyns> I have 4GB of Ram I need 64 bit mate ;)
[05:43] <karthik> I had problem installling Java on a AMD 64-bit machine running Ubuntu
[05:44] <Aliyns> !nvidia
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <karthik> ya ubotu is right
[05:45] <karthik> ok people I have got to go
[05:46] <BluesKaj> ubotu is a bot , karthik
[05:46] <karthik> thanks for all those who offered me tips today
[05:46] <Assid> hrmm
[05:46] <Assid> 4GB should technically work on 32bit
[05:46] <karthik> A BOT
[05:46] <Assid> above that would require a 64bit addressing
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Assid,  thats what i was thinking.
[05:46] <karthik> written under GNU GPL
[05:47] <Aliyns> Assid, the maximum system memory that the OS refers to includes video card memory and swap/page files.
[05:47] <carranca> Hi, im having problems launching an app from my desktop into my notebook using the DISPLAY env. Doing an nmap on localhost the X server isn't opened. any ideas?
[05:47] <Dr_willis> You mean if i use 19gb of swap file.. i got to use 64bit? :)
[05:47] <Assid> hehehe
[05:47] <karthik> hello , is ubout written under GPL license
[05:47] <Aliyns> well thats the case in Windoze
[05:48] <Assid> Aliyns: not possible.. people use 2GB ram .. 2GB swap..  and ofcourse there is the 256mb of video card
[05:48] <Assid> so does that mean they need 64bit ?
[05:48] <Assid> although 19GB of swap is kinda unrealistic
[05:48] <Assid> Aliyns: wrong..
[05:49] <Assid> i use 1.5GB of ram.. 3GB of pagefile on winxp pro 32
[05:49] <Aliyns> Yeah, without memory remapping in BIOS 32 bit windows wont read all 3GB of physical memory.
[05:49] <Assid> thats not how its counted
[05:49] <Assid> its 4GB per individual type
[05:49] <Aliyns> all 4GB*
[05:49] <Assid> brb
[05:49] <Dr_willis> !bot
[05:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:50] <Aliyns> http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html
[05:52] <Aliyns> That link should explain it Assid, I went through hell trying to get Windows to read all 4GB of my memory.
[05:52] <surgy> whats a good cpp ide?
[05:52] <Aliyns> PAE is completely useless, and my motherboard lacks memory remapping so 64bit was the only way.
[05:52] <NickPresta> surgy, kdevelop
[05:53] <surgy> nickpresta yeah but the build feature ummm doesnt work for me, ii open the build menu and there is nothing there, even after i save my .cpp file
[05:56] <TooEarly> jhutchins: ya there
[05:56] <jhutchins> Yeah.  Uncaffeinated so far, but present.
[05:57] <TooEarly> lol alright. i'm using devede which seems to be working for me pretty well
[05:57] <TooEarly> but when you convert the file to a dvd what bitrate do you usually use?
[06:00] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Oh, that whole question is pretty involved.  I've pretty much stuck to application defaults, there's a lot of discussion about the trade-offs.
[06:00] <NickPresta> thanks genii!
[06:00] <hans_> hey, anyone fairly knowledgable with ubuntu who might be able to explain why audio hangs any aplpication which tries to play sound (ie. firefox/youtube, totem, amarok, gmplayer, etc)
[06:01] <hans_> i;ve done an ltrace on gmplayer and it hangs on
[06:01] <TooEarly> oh, alright. well see i used a bitrate of 5000 and it only used 2.9gigs and i want it better quality if it only uses a little
[06:01] <genii> NickPresta: np :)
[06:01] <hans_> snd_pcm_open_lconf
[06:01] <hans_> totem hangs on xine_open_audio_driver
[06:02] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Yeah, you really just have to experiment, which takes time.
[06:02] <jhutchins> TooEarly: Seems like there were some good discussion forums, maybe through tovid's site?
[06:07] <Martiini> does linux log terminal output and if so .. where can I find Konsole logs ??
[06:08] <Dr_willis> you mean logs of ALL used commands?
[06:08] <Martiini> no
[06:08] <jhutchins> Martiini: Depends on what you're doing with the terminal.
[06:08] <Dr_willis> theres the 'bash history' that has  a history of them
[06:08] <Martiini> k
[06:08] <Martiini> Ill check that
[06:10] <Jevon> Ok, when I try to install new packages using adept, I get this:
[06:10] <Jevon> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[06:11] <Jevon> anyone know whats up
[06:11] <NickPresta> Jevon, run this from a Konsole: sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <NickPresta> Jevon, then try to install a package like this: sudo apt-get install PACKAGE
[06:12] <ksivaji> NickPresta still my apache is not working
[06:12] <NickPresta> it should reveal more detailed errors
[06:12] <NickPresta> ksivaji, I still don't understand what you mean by "not working". You can't start apache2 at all?
[06:13] <ksivaji> NickPresta yes i installed apache2 but some of the files are missing
[06:13] <Jevon> this could take a few minutes...
[06:13] <ksivaji> NickPresta i compared it with genii
[06:14] <kogo__> hey guys how do i display the network icon on the task bar?
[06:14] <Jevon> and what does the update command do?
[06:15] <Jevon> ok, got some error messages on the update
[06:15] <NickPresta> Jevon, okay. what are they?
[06:15] <Jevon> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/so                          urce/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:15] <Jevon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail                          able)
[06:15] <Jevon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                          ess using it?
[06:15] <ksivaji> NickPresta do you have any suggestion for me
[06:15] <ksivaji> !aptfix
[06:15] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:15] <NickPresta> Jevon, if you have Adept open, you need to close it
[06:15] <jhutchins> make sure your GUI package aps are closed.
[06:16] <NickPresta> ksivaji, short of telling you to compile apache from source, I don't know how else to help you. I've exhausted all possible solutions that I know of.
[06:16] <ksivaji> ok
[06:19] <jhutchins> ksivaji: What kind of stuff is missing?
[06:19] <ksivaji>  jhutchins missing as well as messing
[06:20] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  I ask before about konsole (bash) output logs .. I actually want to log ALL konsole output not just commands
[06:20] <Jevon> the command failed to work
[06:20] <kogo__> jevon ckck if apt is running with : pa aux | grep apt
[06:20] <kogo__> *ps not pa
[06:20] <kogo__> ps aux | grep apt
[06:20] <ksivaji> jhutchins did you got my pm
[06:20] <Martiini> Ive googled myself nuts by now :(
[06:21] <Jevon> it did not recognize command ps
[06:21] <Jevon> nm
[06:21] <Dr_willis> Martiini,  there is a command called 'script' that can do it for the current session
[06:21] <Jevon> stupid a
[06:21] <Jevon> beth     20387  0.0  0.2   2880   800 pts/1    S+   12:21   0:00 grep apts
[06:21] <Martiini> yaa , I konw that
[06:21] <Dr_willis>  ifyou want to log EVERYONE's stuff,, and not let them know about it.. theres some ways to do that. Special Login replacements I think
[06:22] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  no , thanks , Id like to log only MY konsole output for now
[06:22] <Martiini> I know script
[06:22] <Jevon> so, I get a lot of numbers that mean nothing to me
[06:22] <Dr_willis> Martiini,  ive used that script command for ages. :) what more do ya need?
[06:22] <Martiini> but how can I make konsole do that by default
[06:23] <Dr_willis> put script command in your .bashrc perhaps
[06:23] <ksivaji> Dr_willis hope you can help me
[06:23] <Jevon> put the command in a startup script?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> that can get nasty i bet with lots of logs..
[06:23] <Dr_willis> plus what if you have more then 1 shell open
[06:23] <genii> back, eating lunch so sort of AFK
[06:23] <ksivaji> Dr_willis apache is messed up here
[06:23] <ksivaji> genii :
[06:23] <Dr_willis> ksivaji,  proberly cant help ya much in tha tarea. I just apt-get install it.. and go...
[06:23] <kogo__> :-) is apt the the end of one of them?
[06:24] <Martiini> Dr_willis:  k, I'll go with that , Thank You
[06:24] <Jevon> yes
[06:24] <kogo__> print that line here
[06:24] <spawn57> !dvd
[06:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:24] <spawn57> !libdvdcss
[06:24] <Jevon> beth     20391  0.0  0.2   2880   804 pts/1    S+   12:24   0:00 grep apts
[06:25] <Jevon> apt at the very end
[06:25] <genii> ksivaji: Unfortunately I think that it is not apache2 that is the problem but that it is some deeper problem since it partially installs things. It may be in the apt-get system or even someplace else entirely. Since it's being extremely problemmatic, I hate to say but recommend a reinstall to server LAMP install, then put a window manager on after that
[06:25] <kogo__> which means aptitude aint running
[06:25] <kogo__> how about : sudo apt-get update
[06:26] <el_taco> in ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?
[06:26] <ksivaji> genii where i can get LAMP server
[06:26] <ksivaji> !synaptic
[06:26] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[06:26] <Jevon> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/main Sources
[06:26] <Jevon>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:26] <Jevon> Fetched 5B in 6s (1B/s)
[06:26] <Jevon> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:26] <Jevon> Reading package lists... Done
[06:26] <Jevon> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:26] <genii> ksivaji: I would recommend the Dapper 6.06 server CD...1 moment for the link
[06:27] <kogo__> are you behind a proxy?
[06:27] <Jevon> not that I know of
[06:27] <yukino> ola
[06:27] <yukino> ayuda de ubuntu en espaol
[06:27] <NickPresta> Jevon, I think if you use a mirror, your problem will go away
[06:27] <el_taco> Jevon can you ping the server?
[06:28] <NickPresta> !es | yukino
[06:28] <ubotu> yukino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:28] <Jevon> ok, how does one use a mirror,and how much will it slow down the download
[06:28] <Jevon> I might be able to ping the server
[06:28] <Jevon> if i knew the IP
[06:28] <genii> ksivaji: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download     choose 6.06 server cd               when installing, choose LAMP setup. After that login to command line then do   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    or if you like kde then   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <el_taco> Jevon ping the hostname
[06:29] <_Assid_> hey
[06:29] <Jevon> I do not know the hostname, unless you mean earthlink
[06:29] <_Assid_> how do oyu trap the data transfer?
[06:29] <el_taco> if it can't resolv then there's a dns issue.
[06:29] <_Assid_> like what ethereal does.. but from cli
[06:29] <kogo__> ok Jevon, lets start here, how are you connected to the internet?
[06:29] <Jevon> dialup
[06:29] <_Assid_> any good packet sniffer
[06:30] <el_taco> in ubuntu I can hit ctrl-alt-<arrow> to change desktops. where can I change that setting in kde?
[06:30] <Jevon> through an external modem
[06:31] <ksivaji> genii  thanks a lot
[06:31] <Jevon> we pretty much run through the old phone lines
[06:31] <pag> el_taco, kcontrol -> keyboard shortcuts
[06:31] <kogo__> from terminal can you ping ubuntu.com
[06:31] <Jevon> damn. Powers out. Gotta get off
[06:31] <genii> ksivaji: Well, i've done what i can to help. Your best bet is the reinstall at this point.
[06:32] <ksivaji> genii i think i can have dual boot
[06:32] <_Assid_> anyone know a good cli based packert sniffer
[06:33] <el_taco> pag thanks
[06:33] <NickPresta> _Assid_, try `nast`
[06:35] <_Assid_> NickPresta: can it output to a file that ethereal can open?
[06:36] <EMoShunz> anyone know how to install autopoint?
[06:38] <seba> what is that?
[06:38] <EMoShunz> i am trying to install gstreamer, and it is saying i need autopilot to compile it
[06:39] <seba> ok
[06:39] <seba> i can not help you with that, sorry
[06:40] <EMoShunz> ok, thanks anyway
[06:40] <EMoShunz> anyone else?
[06:41] <genii> EMoShunz: So try:   sudo apt-get install autopilot
[06:44] <EMoShunz> can't find package
[06:45] <genii> EMoShunz: Interesting, on mine, the command:  apt-cache search autopilot    produces: autopilot - Monitor the DTR line of /dev/palm and run a command to start sync
[06:46] <genii> EMoShunz: I recommend enabling more repositories then in your /etc/apt/sources.list   file,  run then:   sudo apt-get update     then try the install again
[06:46] <genii> !repos
[06:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:48] <EMoShunz> i have all the optional repos installed, is there one for gstreamer specifically?
[06:49] <Kr4t05> EMoShunz: Are you trying to get restricted codecs?
[06:49] <genii> EMoShunz: Fast:    kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list              each line starting #deb or #deb-src  remove the # except the one before the line which contains cdrom (near top)
[06:51] <genii> EMoShunz: If you do that and enable all the repos already existing in your sources.list, it should find the autopilot app. i see it isted and I don't have any weird repos in my list. After you change the file, do the:  sudo apt-get update    then  try to see if the command  apt-cache search autopilot     shows what mine did (pasted here already)
[06:51] <morph_> hello all
[06:52] <morph_> anyone using avant window manager?
[06:54] <EMoShunz> genii:  that seems to have worked, wierd that i had to do that manually
[06:54] <EMoShunz> fyi, sudo apt-get install gettext also seems to install autopilot
[06:54] <genii> EMoShunz: The gui package manager isn't always that intuitive :)
[06:55] <EMoShunz> it was my backports that weren't enabled
[06:55] <genii> EMoShunz: Good. hopefully gstreamer will progress now
[07:00] <NickPresta> wow. vgacardgames (vga_soliatire) just screwed up my screen resolution
[07:07] <m477> how to mount disks on fiesta ?
[07:07] <g2g591> grr, Kwin keeps changing my window manager to itself from beryl, it usually happens when I open adept
[07:07] <jhutchins> m477: mount command works for me.
[07:08] <pag> m477, what's 'fiesta'? another nice nick for Feisty Fawn? :P
[07:08] <m477> jhutchins: but i dont see pertisions
[07:09] <pag> m477, and to answer your question; if it's not done automatically (like it usually is) use ' mount '
[07:09] <pag> !mount
[07:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:09] <m477> jhutchins: i dont know name of this partisons
[07:09] <m477> pag: where it should be mounted ?
[07:10] <jhutchins> m477: sudo fdisk -l
[07:10] <pag> m477, where ever you want... most user prefer /mount/something
[07:10] <m477> jhutchins: thanks
[07:12] <mm_202> Hey guys, probably a dumb question, but is there a way to delete all .m3u files, with recursion?  Ive tried rm -R *.m3u and it wont go into the subdirectories..
[07:13] <frojnd> hello there are thre any instructions how to install divx web player for firefox ?
[07:13] <Theory> find ./ -name '*.m3u' | xargs rm
[07:13] <titanix88> anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?
[07:13] <titanix88> anyone know a channel for just gossip abt linux/ubuntu with activities(unlike #ubuntu-offtopic)?
[07:14] <m477> jhutchins: hey m8 next problem when im trying mount it request root and i log "su" and same trobule
[07:15] <m477> jhutchins: or i shuold use "sudo mount " ?
[07:16] <mm_202> thank you, Theory.
[07:16] <titanix88> m477 mount what?
[07:16] <m477> titanix88: disk
[07:16] <m477> ok works
[07:16] <frojnd> does anyone know how to install divx web player for firefox. I wanna watch divx videos, like on this site: http://joox.net/cat/23/id/1239523   anyone ??
[07:17] <titanix88> !divx
[07:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:17] <pfein> is there any tool to help copy .kde setting from one laptop to another?
[07:18] <jussi01> pfein:i dont  know, but why not just copy the .kde over?
[07:19] <pfein> jussi01: the dest. box is old & running xfce, but there are a few kde apps I'm gonna use (incl. konversation)
[07:19] <pfein> jussi01: but probably no konq. :(
[07:20] <pfein> eh, I'll just tar it up & stick it on a usbdisk, it's tiny.
[07:20] <pfein> thx
[07:20] <titanix88> pfein: is it so important to transfer settings:?
[07:20] <genii> pfein: If the machine is old and marginal ram etc, remember that any kde app you put onto the xfce system has to load a bunch of libraries from kde to use it (on top of the xfce system), making it terribly worse than just putting full kde on
[07:21] <pfein> it'd be nice
[07:21] <pfein> genii: I realize
[07:21] <genii> pfein: Good :)
[07:21] <jhutchins> genii: That's a bit of a stretch.
[07:22] <jhutchins> genii: You're not loading any of the kde desktop features.
[07:22] <pfein> jhutchins: yeah, and I'm just going to use Konsole w/i konversation as my terminals, so that's one less app too.
[07:23] <genii> jhutchins: Well, this is true. but I installed only 2 kde apps on my xubuntu box, and it was costing me about 30% more cpu load and 12Mb ram resources
[07:23] <NickPresta> depending on what the dependencies are, you might want to use kdelibs instead of full blown KDE
[07:23] <genii> (as soon as i loaded one)
[07:23] <BFC> Hi, I have a wierd problem. My wlan was working fine in kubuntu. But suddenly it doesnt work. the wierd thing is that using wireless assist i can see all the networks in range
[07:23] <BFC> I just can't connect to my wlan
[07:24] <titanix88> submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)
[07:24] <titanix88> submit it to kde feature reqest & i'm sure they will add it within hours...:)
[07:24] <pfein> NickPresta: I just apt-get installed konversation, it pulled the minimal stuff it needed.
[07:24] <mm_202> Theory:  not to be a pain, but that didnt quite work,
[07:24] <mm_202> rm: cannot remove `Sunday/Louder': No such file or directory
[07:24] <mm_202> rm: cannot remove `Now.m3u': No such file or directory
[07:25] <mm_202> its passing it to rm, but not with quotes
[07:25] <genii> pfein: I exaggerated somewhat when I said it was worse than just putting full kde on. but not much
[07:26] <pfein> I might need kcontrolcenter though, ugh.
[07:27] <pfein> some of the gtk themes are quite nice, I was surprised to find.
[07:28] <titanix88> i miss human gtk theme in kde.
[07:28] <titanix88> i miss human gtk theme in kde.
[07:28] <Theory> mm_202: find ./ -name '*.m3u' -print0 | xargs -0 rm
[07:28] <Theory> should do it then
[07:28] <yrg> hi
[07:28] <titanix88> can 't anyone make it for kde?
[07:30] <titanix88> mm_200 plain rm doesn't work?what was ur command?
[07:31] <titanix88> yrg hi
[07:31] <yrg> titanix88: I thought there were some clones of the "human" theme for kde..?
[07:32] <yurimxpxman> do any of you know of a tool that could automatically forward all of the mail from one e-mail account to another, like a daemon or something?
[07:32] <titanix88> yrg where to find?
[07:32] <yrg> just do a search on kde-look.org
[07:33] <yrg> I found a theme manager-theme and some window decorations.
[07:37] <ksivaji> genii can you ssh into my system and fix the problem
[07:37] <arquilin> hola
[07:37] <arquilin> Es verdad que Kword puede abrir  y editar pdf o entendi mal lo que lei?
[07:38] <genii> ksivaji:  You are still working on the apache2 problem? Or now some other?
[07:38] <ksivaji> genii apache2
[07:38] <genii> ksivaji:  I'm not sure there is much that can be done anymore, but I could give it a try. Give me the url etc by pm
[07:41] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:42] <ksivaji> genii :
[07:44] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:51] <seba> anyone knows why kexi do not transform the forms from a mdb file, but do the tables???
[07:52] <m477> can you remember me comend which show me disks ?
[07:53] <m477> also can you tell me how to format disk/
[07:53] <m477> ?
[07:53] <genii> Bah ksivaji is insane
[07:54] <yrg> m477: You just click the drive in the file manager...?
[07:55] <m477> i supoust i dont have it -,-
[07:55] <m477> i need comend in shell
[07:55] <NickPresta> m477, `fdisk -l`
[07:56] <NickPresta> genii, oh really?
[07:56] <yrg> You format disks with mkfs...
[07:56] <m477> NickPresta: thanks
[07:56] <NickPresta> he would probably have been better off to just compile apache/php/mysql from source. it's fairly painless
[07:57] <genii> NickPresta: He has some deep-rooted apt or dpkg problems with his box
[07:58] <m477> NickPresta: ops donest work fdisk -l
[07:58] <NickPresta> m477, what are you trying to accomplish?
[07:58] <genii> NickPresta: This is day 3 of helping him, now he leaves right after i atrt to get somewhere with it, so tomorrow is likely day 4
[07:59] <m477> NickPresta: i wanna see all partisions on disks
[07:59] <m477> NickPresta: to mount it
[07:59] <NickPresta> genii, yeah. He pops in from time to time asking for more help.
[07:59] <yrg> You must "sudo" fdisk
[07:59] <m477> ah
[07:59] <yrg> otherwise it can't open the device
[08:00] <m477> yrg: gr8 m8 thanks
[08:02] <m477> can you tell me how mount ntfs??
[08:02] <m477> or format to fat ?
[08:02] <twosouls82> !ntfs
[08:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:03] <yrg> mkfs -t vfat should work... but that's for fat32...
[08:04] <m477> yrg: is it to format?
[08:04] <genii> It may be mkfs.vfat
[08:04] <yrg> yeah...
[08:05] <m477> yrg: i think doestn work or im missing soemthing
[08:05] <yrg> what does the error message say?
[08:08] <m477> yrg: it isnt error i tihnk Usage: mkfs [-V]  [-t fstype]  [fs-options]  device [size]
[08:08] <yrg> Have you specified the partition you want to format...
[08:08] <yrg> like "mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1" or something
[08:08] <m477> k
[08:09] <m477> lol
[08:09] <m477> thats all
[08:09] <m477> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc1
[08:09] <m477> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[08:11] <m477> yrg: that show me shall
[08:11] <yrg> ...i think that's all it does when it's working...
[08:11] <szachista> hello
[08:12] <szachista> how can i install .deb package, but with all dependecies installed automaticly?
[08:12] <szachista> dpkg -install doesn't install dependencies
[08:12] <ksivaji> szachista dpkg -i ./*.deb
[08:12] <m477> yrg: so u sugest that format is done ?
[08:13] <twosouls82> szachista: install it and run "sudo apt-get -f install" afterwards, this will take care of the deps in most cases
[08:13] <yrg> when command prompt is back and there were no error messages, yes.
[08:13] <szachista> twosouls82: it is not clean way to do things :/
[08:14] <twosouls82> it works like a charm
[08:14] <twosouls82> szachista: not using repo debs isn't clean
[08:14] <yrg> it only works if all the dependencies are in the repos...
[08:14] <twosouls82> yep, true
[08:17] <g2g591> For some reason kwin switches to being the window manager when i run adept. (it switches the window manager from beryl to kwin)
[08:18] <NickPresta> g2g591, then the solution would be not to run adept :-P
[08:19] <NickPresta> g2g591, but seriously, can you reproduce that behaviour every time and which versions of adept/beryl/kde?
[08:19] <m477> yrg: so what i have to do now ?
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> NickPresta: or not run beryl ;)
[08:20] <yrg> what do you want to do? mount your newly formatted partition?
[08:20] <NickPresta> that too :P
[08:20] <m477> yrg: maybe it doenst work becouse i dont have mount this aprtition ? ;p
[08:20] <m477> yrg: no i want to format ntfs partiton which isnt mount
[08:20] <yrg> i think it did work.
[08:21] <m477> yrg: so now doesnt
[08:21] <m477> yrg: so how i have to format it?
[08:21] <yrg> so what happened when you did sudo mkfs -t vfat /whatever ?
[08:21] <m477> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/hdc1
[08:21] <m477> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)
[08:21] <m477> that
[08:22] <yrg> hmm... to me, this looks like it did format the disk...
[08:22] <g2g591> it doesn't do it every time
[08:22] <m477> no
[08:22] <g2g591> about once every 3 times or so
[08:22] <yrg> But i'm not 100% sure... and i have no spare disk to try it...
[08:22] <m477> when i write only mfks
[08:22] <m477> bash: mfks: command not found
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: hmmm, run beryl from the CMDline, and see if it spitts out an error
[08:23] <g2g591> adept 2.1 on kde 3.5.7
[08:23] <m477> yrg i doesnt format cuz
[08:23] <m477> yrg: /dev/hdc1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:24] <yrg> argh... maybe you have to change the partition type first...
[08:24] <g2g591> no errors, but one warning : [Warning ] : Relaunching beryl with __GL_YIELD="NOTHING"
[08:24] <m477> yrg: so what you recomend?
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> hmmm, and then kwin replaces it?
[08:24] <szachista> i was told that if i open deb package in mc and run from it INSTALL file, it will find dependencies automaticly. But is this safe way to do things?
[08:25] <NickPresta> g2g591, the only thing I can think to try is to disable the GL Yield setting
[08:25] <yrg> sudo fdisk /dev/hdc, then type m to find out what the command for changing the system id is...
[08:25] <g2g591> only after about 3 times of opening adept, or another kde specific app
[08:25] <g2g591> any idea how?
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: it happens with other apps?
[08:25] <yrg> and then change the system id to fat32. Then mkfs should format it
[08:25] <ksivaji> hi
[08:26] <NickPresta> g2g591, right click on the Beryl icon > Advanced Beryl Options > Disable GL Yield
[08:26] <g2g591> it is already marked
[08:26] <m477> yrg: so i must delate and make new partiton ?
[08:26] <ksivaji>  installed apache but i can process php script
[08:26] <ksivaji> NickPresta :
[08:27] <twosouls82> !lamp
[08:27] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:27] <NickPresta> ksivaji, you can't run PHP scripts via apache?
[08:27] <m477> yrg: i really dont know which option choose
[08:27] <ksivaji> twosouls82 yes
[08:27] <yrg> that'd work to, but it should be enough to change the system ID, so the partition is marked as fat32.
[08:27] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you add the LoadModule line for mod_php?
[08:27] <m477> yrg: k i got
[08:27] <yrg> Type t for changing the system ID. Then select the partition and b for Fat32
[08:28] <ksivaji> no how to do that
[08:28] <yrg> And then mkfs should work for that partition
[08:28] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: try unmarking it then ;)
[08:28] <ksivaji> NickPresta hope you can solve my problem
[08:29] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you compile apache from source?
[08:29] <m477> yrg: but still when i write "sudo fdisk -l
[08:29] <ksivaji> NickPresta no i installed using adept
[08:29] <m477> yrg: i got /dev/hdc1   *           1<PHONE_NUMBER>+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[08:29] <NickPresta> ksivaji, did you install php5 via adept?
[08:29] <ksivaji> NickPresta i can installl apache 1.3 only
[08:29] <ksivaji> ya
[08:30] <yrg> hmm... i think you gotta reboot so that the system knows the partition type...
[08:30] <NickPresta> ksivaji, If you installed apache1.3, I think you're supposed to use PHP4.
[08:30] <yrg> I think there's a message saying so when you exit fdisk with w
[08:30] <yrg> but i'm not 100% sure...
[08:31] <ksivaji> NickPresta but adept  say php is not valid package name
[08:31] <m477> how to exit it
[08:31] <yrg> fdisk?
[08:31] <m477> yrg: all tim
[08:31] <m477> yes
[08:31] <yrg> w if you want to save the changes, q if you don't
[08:32] <NickPresta> ksivaji, oh. it appears feisty only has php5. that's fine
[08:32] <ksivaji>  NickPresta ok tell me how to add module and load
[08:33] <m477> yrg heh now works
[08:33] <makuseru> what are the most common Vector Image file types?
[08:33] <NickPresta> ksivaji, well, you have to install php first. then you need to check your apache config file for the line that looks like "LoadModule php5_module modules/libphp5.so"
[08:34] <NickPresta> makuseru, svg, svgz?
[08:34] <gandhii> maku:  svg, ps, eps, dxf, ai,
[08:34] <makuseru> thank you
[08:35] <m477> yrg: one more thing can you tell me why linux regognize my disk as 4 gb if it is 8 ? o.O
[08:35] <arun> hey kids
[08:35] <sauvin> There's a 'dia' program that works with vector formats; what format is it?
[08:36] <yrg> m477: I don't know... Is it really partitioned to 8 gb?
[08:36] <g2g591> ow that made it freeze
[08:36] <m477> yrg: dunno but there is 1 partiton 4 gb
[08:36] <m477> yrg: maybe i back to fdisk and delate and make new one partition ?
[08:36] <arun> sauvin: SVG?
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> g2g591: sorry...
[08:37] <yrg> hmm... maybe you are mixing up blocks and bytes... try "df -h" to view the partition sizes...
[10:39] <xbesnard> Hello, I face some difficulties to be connected under Kubuntu Feisty with an external dial up modem (BEWAN V92). The connexion starts and after a few minutes, I got a message that the modem hangup with a code 16. I checked the different parametes, options, AT commands, pap/chap. But, I found nothing obvious. Could someone get me information on the error code 16? I put my syslog at this adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33178/ . Thank you for your help. Xav
[10:47] <yukino> ola
[10:48] <yeniklasor> How can I scrool down when I launch "top" on terminal ?
[10:49] <jhutchins> yeniklasor: can't.
[10:49] <underdog5004> !htop
[10:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:49] <jhutchins> yeniklasor: All you can do is reconfigure a console so that you have more lines.
[10:49] <yeniklasor> oh ok :(
[10:50] <yrg> or use ps aux and scroll up ;)
[10:50] <underdog5004> or ps aux | less
[10:50] <underdog5004> or ps aug | grep processname
[10:51] <yeniklasor> Thanks worked
[10:52] <yeniklasor> Now how can I install JDK ? On repo isn't working :( Do you know any totorial
[10:55] <Angelus> yo
[10:55] <Angelus> how can i install a theme on kubuntu?
[10:56] <vzduch> !themes | Angelus
[10:56] <ubotu> Angelus: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:57] <Assid> err how do i get apt to have multiple connections while downloading?
[10:57] <Assid> i want to increase the simultanous threads
[10:57] <vzduch> can apt do that?  I know that smart can, but for apt I don't know
[10:57] <Angelus> vzduch: i downloaded the theme, but i dont know how to install since kubuntu doesnt have a theme installer or i dont know where it is
[10:58] <Assid> vzduch: yes it can
[10:59] <Seberus> Hello
[11:00] <Seberus> Ok, Can somebody help me? I
[11:00] <Seberus> I'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it.
[11:06] <danne_> !ask
[11:06] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:07] <Seberus> I'm completly new to Kubuntu and I just installed it :3 Can someone help me?
[11:07] <Seberus> It seems I cant download any .exe files >_>
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: linux doesn't use .exe files.
[11:07] <yrg> Seberus: You can't run exe Files on linux
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: those are for windows.
[11:07] <yrg> If you want to install a program, you can use Adept.
[11:07] <LeeJunFan> !adept | Seberus
[11:07] <ubotu> Seberus: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[11:08] <Seberus> Thank you
[11:08] <yrg> There's a big library of programs you may want or need, and they will be automatically installed
[11:08] <yrg> and the bot know everything better than i do ;)
[11:08] <vzduch> Seberus: what do you want w/ .exe files?
[11:08] <Seberus> Um
[11:08] <Seberus> MSN
[11:08] <Seberus> and games
[11:08] <Seberus> and such
[11:08] <Seberus> e_e
[11:09] <yrg> there's a program called Kopete in Kubuntu
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: you'll find games there, for MSN look at kopete.
[11:09] <LeeJunFan> !info kopete
[11:09] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 7108 kB, installed size 19632 kB
[11:09] <yrg> that can connect to MSN and AIM and ICQ and Jabber and...
[11:09] <Seberus> Yeah I ran kopete, then accidently closed it although I saw something to do with MSN, Cant seem to find it again
[11:09] <yrg> Yeeah my download's finished..
[11:10] <yrg> Gotta go play ;)
[11:11] <Seberus> -sighs- How can I connect to MSN through kopete?
[11:13] <LeeJunFan> Seberus: go into settings menu, configure, accounts.
[11:13] <Angelus> hmm somebody knows how colours of windows tabs can be changed?
[11:14] <vzduch> windows tabs?
[11:14] <Angelus> *windows tabs
[11:14] <Angelus> *window
[11:15] <vzduch> still not clear what you mean (at least not to me)
[11:15] <Seberus> Allright, so games, How in the world can I get some? I know where to get the .exe >_> how do I transfer .exe onto Linux?
[11:16] <Angelus> you dont know what a tab in a window is ?
[11:16] <Angelus> :|
[11:16] <vzduch> Seberus: as a rule, you _don't_ run .exe files in Linux unless there's no other option
[11:16] <vzduch> !games
[11:16] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[11:17] <Seberus> x______X
[11:17] <Angelus> Seberus: go to Adept and Install wine, then with wine you can install .exe files :D
[11:17] <Seberus> REALLY!?!?! :3 Thank you.
[11:17] <Angelus> no proble
[11:17] <Angelus> :p
[11:17] <Seberus> cause I'm like... Adept... -types in a games name- eerrm... did it work? :O
[11:17] <Angelus> but Seberus WARNING: to play windows games on linux you must have at least an Nvidia Graphic ccard
[11:18] <Angelus> Seberus: K menu , System, Adept
[11:18] <Angelus> search for wine
[11:18] <Seberus> Erm...
[11:18] <Angelus> Request Install
[11:18] <Angelus> Apply Changes
[11:18] <Angelus> :p
[11:18] <runlevelten> Seberus: You should be aware that wine provides a tool you _may_ be able to run some windows applications on. It's not a sure thing.
[11:18] <runlevelten> I do play HL2 on it though :)
[11:18] <Seberus> Well I was playing games on a game on windows before linux
[11:18] <Seberus> I understand the whole wine thing thank you ><
[11:19] <Angelus> then you go to console, wine your.exe
[11:19] <Angelus> and should work
[11:19] <Angelus> ok
[11:19] <Seberus> Ok
[11:19] <Angelus> for nothing
[11:19] <Angelus> runlevelten: do you know how to change colour of Tabs ?
[11:19] <Angelus> in kde?
[11:19] <Angelus> :S
[11:20] <runlevelten> Angelus: as far as I'm aware, you'll need to run a style that supports it.
[11:20] <Seberus> Ok so this is a gameing computer :x, Not all games run on it, but most probably do?  I would type into adept manager "wine gunz.exe" ?
[11:23] <runlevelten> You should look on appdb.winehq.org for apps, compatibility listing, tests by other users, and tips on how to get the best performance
[11:24] <Dragnslcr> pants- GParted/QtParted can do it
[11:24] <Angelus> LOL
[11:24] <Angelus> forget it Seberus
[11:24] <Seberus> e___________e
[11:24] <runlevelten> Seberus: yeah, but check the app on appdb.winehq.org
[11:24] <Angelus> you wont play gunz on linux
[11:24] <Angelus> gunz needs internet explorer
[11:24] <Angelus> :p
[11:24] <Seberus> Erm
[11:24] <runlevelten> not into adept manager
[11:24] <Angelus> oh wait
[11:24] <Seberus> Why?
[11:24] <pants> dragnslcr it's saying it's mountes
[11:24] <runlevelten> into a shell
[11:24] <Seberus> I dont wanna use ijji
[11:24] <Angelus> depends on which edition you have
[11:24] <killown|away> where I found xorg 7.2 source?
[11:24] <Seberus> =.=
[11:24] <Angelus> ahh so its not ijji
[11:24] <Seberus> I allready know.
[11:24] <Angelus> so then it should play
[11:24] <Angelus> :p
[11:24] <Angelus> lol
[11:24] <Dragnslcr> pants- you can't resize a mounted partition
[11:24] <Seberus> I'm not THAT far behind.
[11:24] <Angelus> sorry
[11:24] <Angelus> my bad
[11:25] <vzduch> killown|away: don't know where you found it :D
[11:25] <Seberus> So how do I get teh wine
[11:25] <Angelus> forgive meh
[11:25] <Seberus> if nothing happens when I type in wine
[11:25] <Seberus> ><
[11:25] <Angelus> i already told you
[11:25] <Seberus> or Wine
[11:25] <Angelus> lets repeat then
[11:25] <Seberus> Well I missed it >_>
[11:25] <runlevelten> Seberus: for an up-to-date wine build, go to winehq.org
[11:25] <Seberus> From the top please :X
[11:25] <Angelus> K menu > System, Adept
[11:25] <pants> dragnslcr so i would have to resize it with fdisk?
[11:25] <Seberus> Kay
[11:25] <runlevelten> to install the stock wine, you can use adept.
[11:25] <Angelus> Search for Wine
[11:25] <Seberus> I'm there
[11:25] <Angelus> request install
[11:25] <Angelus> apply changes
[11:25] <Seberus> Kay...
[11:25] <Seberus> Um...
[11:25] <Angelus> that should install wine on your system
[11:26] <Seberus> Wait
[11:26] <Angelus> :p
[11:26] <Dragnslcr> pants- or resize it when it isn't mounted, which is what I would suggest
[11:26] <Seberus> Nothing happened
[11:26] <Seberus> Theres no search results.
[11:26] <Seberus> e.e
[11:26] <runlevelten> you probably didn't check it then.
[11:26] <pants> dragnslcr im new at linux, how can i unmount the hard disk
[11:26] <runlevelten> !wine
[11:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:26] <Dragnslcr> pants- is it the one that you're running your system on right now?
[11:27] <pants> dragnslcr yes but i popped in the live CD
[11:27] <Dragnslcr> pants- are you actually running off of the CD?
[11:27] <Dragnslcr> pants- you have to boot from the Live CD to resize the partition that your system is on
[11:27] <pants> dragnslcr yes, there is a install file on the desktop
[11:28] <Dragnslcr> pants- System Settings -> Advanced -> Disks
[11:29] <Dragnslcr> pants- should be able to unmount any mounted disks from there
[11:29] <Seberus> Ugh this is hurting mah brain ;D
[11:29] <pants> dragnslcr ok i see my partitions
[11:29] <runlevelten> heh ;)
[11:29] <parsnip> hi all
[11:29] <parsnip> ive messed up bigtime can anyone help
[11:29] <runlevelten> !ask
[11:29] <Angelus> lol
[11:29] <pants> dragnslcr disable them?
[11:30] <Angelus> the bot needs a technishion
[11:30] <runlevelten> zomflippinGwhere'subotu?
[11:30] <parsnip> i thought i set my audio cds to autorun with kscd but now when i try and open folders, kscd opens
[11:30] <parsnip> can anoyone advise?
[11:30] <Dragnslcr> pants- I believe that should unmount them, yeah
[11:30] <runlevelten> [22:26]  <-- ubotu has left this server (Remote closed the connection).
[11:30] <Angelus> hmm
[11:30] <pants> dragnslcr :/ wont let me even in admin mode
[11:31] <runlevelten> Was it because I said I was installing etch? Did I hurt ubotu's feelings?
[11:31] <runlevelten> :(
[11:31] <Angelus> can anyone tell me how to set the identd on linux
[11:31] <Angelus> since i heard its complicated not like windows buollt in mIRC
[11:31] <Angelus> *built-in
[11:31] <Seberus> Lol xD I hit enter ALOT on the adept thing searching for "wine" ... it closed x.x
[11:31] <Seberus> if I hit enter alot dose it close a window? lol
[11:32] <pants> dragnslcr i can resize the swap i think but not the ext3
[11:32] <vzduch> "windows built-in mIRC"?
[11:32] <runlevelten> what built-in mirc?
[11:32] <Angelus> the identd
[11:32] <Angelus> for IRC
[11:33] <Angelus> its built in on mIRC
[11:33] <parsnip> instead of mIRC, why not use XChat? theres a win32 port and its free
[11:33] <Angelus> on linux you must install something for identd
[11:33] <Angelus> i dont use mIRC
[11:33] <Angelus> :|
[11:33] <runlevelten> ew @ identd.
[11:33] <Angelus> im talking about identd dude
[11:33] <Angelus> how can it be enabled on linux?
[11:33] <vzduch> sudo apt-get install identd
[11:34] <Angelus> ok
[11:34] <Angelus> that will enable identd server ?
[11:34] <Angelus> for irc?
[11:34] <Angelus> :p
[11:34] <eleckttruss> somebody know about X software to send post to my blog?
[11:36] <jhutchins> eleckttruss: Kinda depends on what blog.
[11:36] <Seberus> Allright... Can anybody explain it to me really slowly step by step in slow motion with little tips along the way, how to get this "wine" ?
[11:37] <parsnip> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:37] <Seberus> I'm useing Kubuntu
[11:37] <Tm_T> that's step one
[11:37] <Seberus> And KDE
[11:37] <Tm_T> Seberus: yes
[11:37] <Tm_T> doesn't matter
[11:37] <Tm_T> see what parsnip said
[11:37] <Seberus> Ok so... sudo apt- get install wine? I dont understand a word of that >_>
[11:38] <Seberus> Well actually I understand the last 3 >_>
[11:38] <Tm_T> open Konsole
[11:38] <Seberus> e_e
[11:38] <Seberus> Konsole?
[11:38] <Seberus> Ok got it up
[11:38] <Tm_T> you'll love that black box
[11:38] <tobias_> then type that
[11:38] <draft> selam
[11:38] <tobias_> enter your password, confirm with enter again
[11:38] <eleckttruss> jhutchins: my blog is in blogger
[11:39] <draft> who know turkish  lanunge  :)
[11:39] <tobias_> I definitly dont :)
[11:39] <Seberus> bash: Sudo: command not found
[11:39] <Tm_T> Seberus: small s
[11:39] <tobias_> typo
[11:39] <eleckttruss> jhutchins: so u know any software for that?
[11:39] <tobias_> what he said
[11:40] <draft> my english bad :(
[11:40] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:40] <killown|away> dpkg-buildpackage define for i386
[11:40] <jhutchins> eleckttruss: Dunno if they have linux tools yet.
[11:40] <Seberus> E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavilable)
[11:40] <Tm_T> killown|away: you might like to try #ubuntu-motu
[11:40] <Seberus> then something under it and blah
[11:40] <Tm_T> Seberus: Adept open?
[11:40] <eleckttruss> jhutchins:  thanks
[11:40] <Seberus> yeap
[11:40] <tobias_> adept installer or adept updater ?
[11:41] <tobias_> close it
[11:41] <Tm_T> Seberus: close it
[11:41] <Seberus> Ok
[11:41] <vzduch> !tr | draft
[11:41] <tobias_> then do it again
[11:41] <Seberus> x.x
[11:41] <Tm_T> tobias_: ok, you go on (:
[11:41] <vzduch> damn, no bot :(
[11:41] <tobias_> nono sorry
[11:41] <tobias_> didnt want to disturb you
[11:41] <Tm_T> tobias_: please do
[11:41] <eleckttruss> jhutchins:  do you hace the link of this software?
[11:41] <Seberus> This is confuzzling me, haha, wonder if I'll learn what all this is in time? <_<
[11:41] <draft> i want install kubuntu but dont know edit partion
[11:41] <tobias_> he, okay, sorry =)
[11:41] <draft> vzduch not understand you what you mean?
[11:42] <vzduch> draft: the bot is offline, so this didn't work as expected
[11:42] <tobias_> Seberus: you will, no fear
[11:42] <Seberus> Ok, blah blah blah... reading package lists building dependency tree reading state information...done Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package
[11:42] <Seberus> this may mean the package is missing blah blah blah
[11:42] <Tm_T> Seberus: what?!
[11:43] <tobias_> oO
[11:43] <Tm_T> gah
[11:43] <Seberus> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[11:43] <tobias_> mhhhm
[11:43] <tobias_> 1 sec
[11:44] <leus> how can i upgrade my kde 3.5.6 to 3.5.7 on kubuntu
[11:44] <leus> please
[11:44] <Tm_T> leus: kubuntu.org has instructions, check announcements
[11:44] <tobias_> hmm I dont know why it wont work with Seberus
[11:44] <tobias_> any idea Tm_T
[11:44] <tobias_> ?
[11:44] <Seberus> e__e;
[11:44] <Tm_T> I have plenty
[11:45] <Seberus> Cause I never downloaded the... resource? or something?
[11:45] <Seberus> reposotory?
[11:45] <Tm_T> Seberus: do "sudo apt-get update"
[11:45] <tobias_> actually it works fine with me
[11:45] <jhutchins> !wine
[11:45] <vbgunz> I read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?
[11:45] <draft> vzduch ok  i  am wait a person  for know my lanunge  and sorry  for my bad english
[11:45] <Tm_T> jhutchins: no bot
[11:45] <Tm_T> draft: turkish?
[11:46] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:46] <draft> yes :)
[11:46] <Seberus> blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah... Done
[11:46] <draft> Tm_T you?
[11:46] <Tm_T> Seberus: and try again install part
[11:46] <tobias_> sudo apt-get install wine
[11:46] <Tm_T> draft: no, but try #ubuntu-tk or whatever is your country code
[11:46] <Tm_T> killown|away: tried #ubuntu-motu already?
[11:47] <killown|away> Tm_T, nobody asnwer
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: wait
[11:47] <tobias_> Seberus: worked ?
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: patience is your ally
[11:47] <Seberus> Package wine is not available but is refered to by another package, this may mean that the package is missing blah blah blah
[11:47] <Seberus> Package wine has no installation canidate
[11:47] <Tm_T> killown|away: and strong ally it is </yoda>
[11:47] <Tm_T> Seberus: ok, hold your seat
[11:48] <Seberus> Will do
[11:48] <draft> Tm_T dont know contry code
[11:48] <Seberus> Its your country man! Figure it out!  Meh, I'm seriously sorry for that x.x
[11:49] <Tm_T> draft: then try tr (:
[11:49] <tobias_> Internet TLD
[11:49] <tobias_> .tr
[11:50] <vbgunz> anyone know what "signal 15" is and how to avoid it?
[11:50] <tobias_> sorry, no tme
[11:50] <jhutchins> !bot
[11:50] <Seberus> Yes I badly NEED and want your help Tm_T
[11:50] <draft> Tm_T ok  try again thenk you :)
[11:51] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Signal 15 is SIGTERM
[11:51] <Tm_T> Seberus: coming on your way then (:
[11:51] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Which basically means you need to know more than you've told us so far.
[11:51] <Seberus> Whewt :D
[11:51] <Seberus> x_X
[11:52] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I did, I write again what I said
[11:52] <vbgunz> I read up on "Signal 15". I do not have a laptop and my PC temperture is "40 C". I never get "Signal 15" when I am using the computer. Only when I am away and it is very frustrating as it logs me out and it's almost to the point of unbearable :( anyone have any ideas?
[11:52] <Tm_T> !universe | Seberus
[11:52] <Seberus> o.o
[11:52] <Tm_T> hmm
[11:52] <Seberus> You have expanded me into the universe :D
[11:52] <Seberus> I think?
[11:52] <tobias_> !tell Seberus universe
[11:52] <Tm_T> ubot3: ping
[11:53] <Tm_T> ok he's deaf
[11:53] <tobias_> poor one
[11:53] <Tm_T> haha
[11:53] <tobias_> *sniff*
[11:53] <Seberus> Hey I'm curious, Whats with the whole, red typeing thing?
[11:53] <Seberus> e___e
[11:53] <Seberus> I'm deaf?
[11:53] <Tm_T> Seberus: no, ubot3
[11:53] <tobias_> no, ubot3 is deaf
[11:53] <tobias_> eumm I am always too late
[11:53] <Seberus> And this ubot3 ish?
[11:53] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I mysteriously log out, I don't know why. I checked my messages log and thats the last line I see at the time of logout: "Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly"
[11:53] <Tm_T> Seberus: infobot
[11:53] <vbgunz> jhutchins: right before that line, I see this line: GConf server is not in use, shutting down.
[11:54] <Seberus> O.o
[11:54] <vzduch> !bot
[11:54] <Seberus> That sounds extremly weird VB GunZ o.O
[11:54] <tobias_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Paketquellen_freischalten <- thats the universe thing in german ._.
[11:54] <Seberus> Like seriously...
[11:54] <Tm_T> tobias_: thanks
[11:54] <vbgunz> Seberus: why, whats up? is it the gconf line or the signal 15 line?
[11:54] <tobias_> but I dont have any idea if Seberus understands it ;)
[11:55] <Seberus> No...
[11:55] <Seberus> Wait I'm not pro
[11:55] <Seberus> e___e
[11:55] <Tm_T> tobias_: he needs universe and then he's good to go, you know how to help him, so I'm off for a moment ;)
[11:55] <Seberus> Dont red talk me VB I'm just saying if your comps not over heating
[11:55] <vbgunz> red talk?
[11:55] <Seberus> I dont even know if thats a over heating message x.x
[11:55] <Seberus> Yah
[11:55] <Seberus> that talk is comeing in red to me
[11:55] <vbgunz> what is that?
[11:55] <Seberus> is it a whisper?
[11:56] <tobias_> no its a highlight
[11:56] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[11:56] <tobias_> it is whenever your name is in it
[11:56] <vbgunz> it's your client coloring it, not me, probably cause I mentioned your name?
[11:56] <Seberus> Ah
[11:56] <Seberus> Allright then
[11:56] <Seberus> So
[11:56] <Seberus> Universe
[11:56] <eugman|OW_omfg> Hey can you resize panels like in windows with kubuntu?
[11:56] <Seberus> A Universe is?
[11:57] <vbgunz> yeah but my comp is at 40C and I am in another account (my sons) and he doesn't log out? only my main account logs out and it is very frustrating :(
[11:57] <vzduch> resize panels?
[11:57] <tobias_> a thing to make packetsources available
[11:57] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: yes
[11:57] <vbgunz> right click your panel unlock | configure panel
[11:57] <Seberus> Ya see, I'm saying that sounds really weird, I don't understand whats going on though... isent 40C high? like 80 degrees F?
[11:57] <vzduch> vbgunz: how about just sitting in front of your account doing nothing.. gotta be a reason for such behaviour
[11:58] <vzduch> 40C == 104F
[11:58] <tobias__> hello
[11:58] <vbgunz> vzduch: it is unpredictable. it will log out in 10 minutes, 10 hours or 10 days. I have no idea why it happens. I checked my xorg.log and found no errors.
[11:58] <Seberus> WOWZA
[11:58] <Seberus> x.x
[11:58] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Basically what we know is that something is causing the system to shut down part way.
[11:58] <vzduch> Seberus: not much for CPU temperature
[11:58] <Seberus> Ah
[11:58] <Seberus> Still e__e
[11:59] <eugman|OW_omfg> vbgunz, no I run ubuntu, I justed wanted to know if it might work in KDE.
[11:59] <vzduch> I remember my Athlon XP2000+ running at 56C (~135F)
[11:59] <vzduch> but that was a hot summer ;)
[11:59] <vbgunz> jhutchins: I wish I knew what else to do to figure it out. going through my logs, I spot something suspicious is messages only. the gconf line and the signal 15 line. other than that, while I am in my sons account playing a game with him, I am taken to my login screen... I just log out for some reason :(
[12:00] <eugman|OW_omfg> Any information on KDE vs. Gnome? I've only been using linux for about a year now and up to this point gnome has been sufficient.
[12:00] <Seberus> Can anybody help me get "Universe"? I am deaf.
[12:00] <jhutchins> vbgunz: Do you have a screensaver set up?
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: its not that easy
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: normally, universe is activated automatically
[12:00] <jhutchins> !repos
[12:00] <Seberus> tobias: Darn
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: so i dont know what could be your problem
[12:00] <tobias_> Seberus: it works all fine with me
[12:00] <Seberus> Oh wait
[12:00] <Seberus> Is it cause
[12:00] <Seberus> I havent installed Kubuntu yet?
[12:01] <tobias_> ...
[12:01] <vzduch> o0
[12:01] <Seberus> Im running off the disk
[12:01] <vbgunz> jhutchins: yes, I had an OpenGL screensaver but I never see when quickly switching between accounts. I did change the screensaver to blank as I read somewhere that could cause it. thats a bit upsetting as I liked the other one :/
[12:01] <Seberus> Cause I was afraid of loseing windows e__e
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: that could be a reason ._.
[12:01] <Tm_T> Seberus: good call, that's it prolly :p
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: by the way
[12:01] <Seberus> SEE? I can be pro e_e
[12:01] <tobias_> Seberus: google for "wubi"
[12:01] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: basically, anything you would EVER want to configure, you can configure in KDE
[12:01] <Seberus> Right away :X
[12:01] <tobias_> it is going to install kubuntu for you without losing windows
[12:02] <tobias_> thats what I did
[12:02] <Seberus> REALLY?
[12:02] <tobias_> you dont need an extra partition or whatever
[12:02] <tobias_> yes
[12:02] <Seberus> Oh mah gawd :X
[12:02] <Seberus> =.=
[12:02] <tobias_> its great
[12:02] <jhutchins> GAH!
[12:02] <Seberus> That is like
[12:02] <Seberus> so wonderfull
[12:02] <jhutchins> No, you don't need anything special to do that.
[12:02] <vbgunz> jhutchins: if it was the screensaver, it really is random, as when I would leave for any amount of time, I would lock the pc. I would come back and find my account either logged or logged out. very wierd as it doesn't happen at any exact time. :(
[12:02] <Phil^> I do so tobias.
[12:02] <Seberus> mah games ><
[12:02] <Phil^> At the moment!
[12:02] <eugman|OW_omfg> Hey what downsides are there to KDE. nosrednaekim, any downsides to KDE?
[12:02] <tobias_> I think its a great tool, really
[12:02] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: COmpared to what?
[12:03] <Seberus> Ok so hey, I'mma take out the CD  and reset my comp and get Wubi allright?
[12:03] <Phil^> Great Idea to build the IRC-Client on the live cd, so you can chat while installation running ;)
[12:03] <vbgunz> jhutchins: any other log I could possibly be looking into? I've ordered my logs by modified time. any idea?
[12:03] <eugman|OW_omfg> Compared to Gnome? Does evolution work with KDE?
[12:03] <jhutchins> Seberus: Better to just install from the CD.
[12:03] <tobias_> xD haha Phil^ :)
[12:03] <Seberus> What if I wanna keep Windows though? :X
[12:03] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: not really.... maybe a little more advanced to use... POSSIBLY a small performance hit. but if you have semi decent HW, you won't notice it
[12:03] <tobias_> Seberus: read my lines above...
[12:03] <eugman|OW_omfg> I think I might switch to kubuntu but I want to know if there are any cons to consider
[12:03] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: Well, it can, but there is kde stuff: kdepim, kmail, korganizer
[12:03] <tobias_> Seberus: it wont affect windows in any way
[12:04] <Seberus> I know
[12:04] <Seberus> I was talking to
[12:04] <Phil^> But at the moment i think the partition-tool did a hangup
[12:04] <Seberus> Jhutchins:
[12:04] <Seberus> e_e
[12:04] <Phil^> I dont response since 6 minutes
[12:04] <tobias_> I see
[12:04] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: I used Ubuntu for over a year. I completely agree with Linus Torvalds. there is a huge difference in being easy to use and *only* easy to use. KDE is easy to use but very chock filled with options when you need em
[12:04] <jhutchins> eugman|OW_omfg: Actually, kde uses about 30% less RAM/CPU than gnome (running native apps).
[12:04] <tobias_> if you wanna install from the CD, you need a new partition
[12:04] <Seberus> Allright well
[12:04] <Seberus> Be are be
[12:04] <Seberus> Partition?
[12:04] <Seberus> That would be?
[12:04] <eleckttruss> algo como gnome-blog pero para kde?
[12:04] <tobias_> partition magic is a program to do so e.g.
[12:04] <vbgunz> eugman|OW_omfg: I find Gnome apps look far superiour on KDE than Vice Versa...
[12:05] <tobias_> you do have c: and d: and those are partitions
[12:05] <eugman|OW_omfg> Well, is there a tool for mocing from evolution to another email app? I've got a lot of email sorted already.
[12:05] <Seberus> Do I need an extra partition for wubi?
[12:05] <tobias_> no
[12:05] <killown|away> how do i to construct package with dpkg-buildpackage with my flags gcc?
[12:05] <Seberus> Ah
[12:05] <tobias_> but if you want to install it from the CD
[12:05] <Seberus> For the CD?
[12:05] <Seberus> Ah ok
[12:05] <jhutchins> Seberus: Which is a good reason NOT to use wubi.
[12:05] <tobias_> that's weird Phil^
[12:05] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: you can still use evolution
[12:05] <Seberus> e__e
[12:05] <eugman|OW_omfg> k
[12:05] <Seberus> Jhutchins: What is a good reason NOT to use Wubi?
[12:05] <tobias_> Phil^: Im glad it worked for me ;)
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: Ususally you shrink your windows partition and create a new partition for linux, and a small one for swap.
[12:06] <tobias_> Seberus: that you isntall it on a new partition
[12:06] <eugman|OW_omfg> What do I do to switch? uninstall ubuntu desktop meta package and install kubuntu desktop package?
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: The installer should do that for you.
[12:06] <Seberus> Ahhhhhh x.x
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: You should have a backup of your windows system, but you shouldn't run wubi without a backup either.
[12:06] <Phil^> Hm, I killed the process and prepare my disk manually....good old fdisk :D
[12:06] <tobias_> =)
[12:06] <jhutchins> Seberus: For most people there's no problem, and if you do a "real" install it will work better in the long run.
[12:07] <nosrednaekim> no need to uninstall the ubuntu mta package, just install the kubuntu one
[12:07] <tobias_> the way is the aim
[12:07] <tobias_> or something like that ^^
[12:07] <grendal_prime> ok how do i upgrade from dapper to fiesty?
[12:07] <Seberus> jhutchins: Woot, I'm such a noob, I understand back ups and stuff ;O but don't  I need like a CD to hold the back up for a  back up?
[12:07] <Seberus> jhutchins: Like... a CD to hold blank stuff or w/e...
[12:07] <jhutchins> Seberus: Yeah, possibly more than one.
[12:07] <Tm_T> !ping
[12:07] <jhutchins> Seberus: You really only need stuff you created.
[12:07] <ubotwo> host not found
[12:08] <eugman|OW_omfg> nosrednaekim, that won't cause any conflict?
[12:08] <Tm_T> !universe | Seberus
[12:08] <ubotwo> Seberus: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:08] <jhutchins> Seberus: Software you can just reinstall.
[12:08] <Tm_T> Seberus: there you go
[12:08] <tobias_> but universe is not the problem anymore Tm_T
[12:08] <tobias_> ^^
[12:08] <jhutchins> Tm_T: thanks!
[12:08] <Tm_T> tobias_: I know!
[12:08] <Tm_T> but we got it!
[12:08] <tobias_> true
[12:08] <tobias_> you're great :D
[12:08] <Tm_T> WOOHHOO!
[12:08] <jhutchins> Tm_T: Need to get more ops bot priviliges.
[12:08] <Tm_T> jhutchins: ?
[12:08] <grendal_prime> can i do a direct dist upgrade or do i need to go through the edg upgrade first
[12:08] <Phil^> I am the only guy chatting while installation with the Feisty Live-CD?
[12:09] <Seberus> jhutchins: The only problem is I want games, If I didn't play games >_> Then I would be happy with it, so I need my windows too
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: no, not at all... you can choose between KDE and Gnome at each login
[12:09] <Seberus> Whatd we get? :O
[12:09] <Seberus> Am I in universe?
[12:09] <Tm_T> Seberus: you can have both, really?
[12:09] <jhutchins> Seberus: Yeah, it's good to have both when you first start out.
[12:09] <Seberus> Tm_T: Supposedly... e__e with Wubi
[12:09] <eugman|OW_omfg> Well I will give it a try
[12:09] <jhutchins> Seberus: I still have my windows partition on this box, even though it won't boot any more with my newer hardware.
[12:09] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade | grendal_prime
[12:09] <ubotwo> grendal_prime: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:10] <jhutchins> Seberus: I have a couple of apps that I run from that install still in Linux.
[12:10] <Seberus> Well, I'mma give it a try... e__e
[12:10] <tobias_> I hope you wont regret it
[12:10] <tobias_> =)
[12:10] <jhutchins> Seberus: Experience is proportional to data destroyed!
[12:10] <Seberus> Ok well I'm off, before I get confused... Install wubi, and that should.... have linux in it?
[12:10] <tobias_> jhutchins: dam I must be fu**ing experienced ;D
[12:11] <Seberus> in a ubuntu form?
[12:11] <jhutchins> tobias_: I know i am.
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: its just a little tool
[12:11] <Tm_T> weird, I never had losed data
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: but it will download the kubuntu for you
[12:11] <Tm_T> I'm not experienced then?
[12:11] <tobias_> Seberus: or ubuntu or whatever you want
[12:11] <tobias_> Tm_T: you are off the hook already, thats why ... :s
[12:11] <tobias_> off the scale should match it better though
[12:11] <tobias_> ._.
[12:12] <Tm_T> tobias_: yeah, comes with my age I guess, 100+
[12:12] <tobias_> =)
[12:12] <tobias_> alright then - good night everyone, see you sooner or later
[12:12] <Tm_T> night
[12:12] <nosrednaekim> eugman|OW_omfg: alrighty!
[12:13] <MaximLevitsky> Is there at least a workaround for kubuntu sudo problems?
[12:13] <Tm_T> MaximLevitsky: what sudo problems?
[12:14] <MaximLevitsky> I mean kdesu that hangs
[12:14] <Tm_T> never seen that
[12:14] <Tm_T> what about kdesudo?
[12:14] <aguitel> how i know my video driver card ?
[12:14] <MaximLevitsky> and annying "kdeinit: can't start blabla"
[12:14] <Phil^> Someone told me, the a Problem is sitting always 1-2 Meters in in front of the PC
[12:15] <MaximLevitsky> Tm_T  , I don't have kdesudo
[12:15] <jenny_> Cant get wine to run junosetup.exe
[12:15] <Tm_T> ubot3: welcome back
[12:15] <jenny_> any ideas?
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> ther is no such thing as kdesudo
[12:15] <Tm_T> there is
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> jenny_: #winehq
[12:15] <nosrednaekim> or #wine I think.
[12:15] <ubot3> Factoid welcome back not found
[12:15] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[12:15] <ubotwo> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo