[12:40] <davubuntu> stdin: that's all it was... !?!?!?  I need it there so Conky can use it to go "transparent"??
[12:41] <davubuntu> stdin: Cheers
[12:41] <stdin> davubuntu: np :)
[12:42] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: er?
[12:42] <knopnet> vip3rousmango: right click on desktop, select configure desktop
[12:42] <Tm_T> knopnet: that doesnt control root window
[12:42] <Tm_T> knopnet: only kdesktop
[12:43] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: I use conky, without root window wallpaper
[12:43] <Cequine> someone please tell me the cmd to unlock adept database?
[12:43] <Tm_T> !adeptcrashfix | Cequine
[12:43] <ubotu> Cequine: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:43] <knopnet> xset ?
[12:44] <Tm_T> xset eset etc, but that doesnt make sense
[12:44] <vip3rousmango> Tm_T: well it goes black while it runs yet my background is like a grey..
[12:44] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: huge image, sorry about that, but look the upper right corner http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[12:44] <mefisto__> trying to get compizfusion working, I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion but can't get it to run. Is that page out of date?
[12:44] <knopnet> xsetroot ?
[12:45] <Tm_T> !compiz | mefisto__
[12:45] <ubotu> mefisto__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <vip3rousmango> oh my god that image is massive.. its almost done
[12:46] <vip3rousmango> duel screen?
[12:46] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: and still I have blank (black) xroot
[12:46] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: yes, currently
[12:49] <drif> anyone got slimserver running on feisty?
[12:49] <Tm_T> vip3rousmango: so, I'd say configure your conky instead ;)
[12:49] <Tm_T> drif: doing some poll?
[12:49] <drif> Tm_T: not really, more like trying to troubleshoot my installation process
[12:50] <Cequine> thank you
[12:50] <Tm_T> drif: then spit out your problem ;)
[12:51] <drif> Tm_T: probs with some packages - and remedy mentioned on slimdevice's site (temporarely changing sources.list to edgy) doesn't work
[12:51] <Tm_T> drif: what problems
[12:52] <Tm_T> if you need help, you have to tell your problem
[12:52] <drif> E: Failed to fetch http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libclass-data-accessor-perl/libclass-data-accessor-perl_0.03-1_all.deb: Size mismatch
[12:53] <Tm_T> my hot tip: dont use fi mirror now
[12:53] <Tm_T> drif: -fi ->
[12:54] <hydrogen> ~tm_t
[01:02] <george_> anyone know how to get the flashplayer file into the .so format so nspluginwrapper will recognize it?
[01:02] <ScorpKing> nite everyone!
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> george_: i assume you're running 64-bit
[01:07] <george_> yes
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> the flashplayer is a .so
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> what do you have, a tar.gz?
[01:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> install it normally (which will extract the .so to the proper directory) is the best idea i can come up with
[01:12] <sutija> hi to alll :)
[01:12] <Biovore> Daisuke_Laptop: stuff it in .mozilla/plugins  (I think)
[01:12] <sutija> all
[01:12] <sutija> ubuntu rulz :)
[01:13] <sutija> could someone help me with ati card
[01:13] <sutija> i have a problem with 3d desktop
[01:13] <Tm_T> !ati | sutija
[01:13] <ubotu> sutija: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <mefisto__> is it normal for your heart to race and palms get sweaty when fsck finds errors on boot and asks if you want to fix them? or is it just me?
[01:14] <sutija> thnx
[01:18] <george_> what is the command line copy command?
[01:19] <Biovore> cp
[01:20] <Biovore> george_: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz <-- good starting book for linux.. all online
[01:20] <george_> or is there a way to change to root user so that I can copy a file in Konqueror
[01:20] <sutija> damn
[01:20] <sutija> it's not working
[01:20] <Biovore> george_: sudo
[01:21] <mefisto__> how do I stop compiz?
[01:21] <Biovore> sudo -s or sudo -i will give you a root shell
[01:25] <BluesKaj> what's the configure setting for preventing CTCP notifications in the channel ?
[01:27] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: in what app?
[01:27] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- usually by starting kwin again
[01:27] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- kwin --replace should do it
[01:27] <BluesKaj> Tm_T, konversation
[01:27] <mefisto__> Dragnslcr: thanks. worked it out already
[01:29] <mefisto__> is the number of faces in the compiz cube == the number of kde desktops? or is it a compiz setting?
[01:30] <feierfox> we kubunterors are second class *buntureros! >:O
[01:30] <hand``> :D
[01:32] <Dragnslcr> mefisto__- it's a compiz setting
[01:32] <feierfox> and my dolphin is always crashing if i closing hin :(
[01:33] <feierfox> he say that he can write in the KDE dir
[01:33] <feierfox> mybe my HD is full
[01:33] <feierfox> but that isn't true
[01:33] <feierfox> just excuses! >:|
[01:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> in what kde directory?
[01:36] <feierfox> wait... i will close dolphin
[01:37] <feierfox> Saving of the Bookmarks in /home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/bookmarks.xml not possible. Error: Permission denied.
[01:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> your username is ubuntu?
[01:37] <feierfox> ;|
[01:38] <feierfox> it is
[01:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> and you aren't on the livecd?
[01:39] <feierfox> no i'm with ubuntu since dapper
[01:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> and you're apparently using an identd of some sort, otherwise your current username would show in your whois
[01:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> (it shows feierfox)
[01:40] <feierfox> no, i use X chat
[01:40] <feierfox> what is wrong with my whois
[01:40] <coreymon77> nothing
[01:40] <JohnFlux_> ls
[01:40] <JohnFlux_> Segmentation fault
[01:40] <JohnFlux_> poor me
[01:40] <feierfox> feierfox is a word-joke in german
[01:41] <feierfox> it sounds like firefox, but feier means party
[01:41] <feierfox> so it means "partyfox" but it is spoken as firefox
[01:41] <feierfox> and it looks like firefox
[01:41] <feierfox> :/
[01:41] <Daisuke_Laptop> nah, there's nothing wrong with it
[01:42] <Tm_T> feierfox: sounds like you have broken filerights in your homedir
[01:42] <feierfox> that could be
[01:42] <feierfox> becaus since dapper i tried all and everything
[01:42] <feierfox> without any knowledge!
[01:42] <Daisuke_Laptop> just saying if you're under a user account called "feierfox", your home directory would be /home/feierfox rather than /home/ubuntu
[01:42] <feierfox> no, ubuntu ist my account
[01:43] <Tm_T> feierfox: have you ever run dolphin with sudo?
[01:43] <feierfox> good idea :O
[01:43] <Tm_T> feierfox: no, not a good idea
[01:43] <Tm_T> feierfox: baad
[01:43] <feierfox> wohooo!
[01:43] <feierfox> it works
[01:43] <sutija> khm...
[01:43] <sutija> :)
[01:44] <Tm_T> feierfox: dont do it
[01:44] <sutija> litle stupid question
[01:44] <sutija> :)
[01:44] <feierfox> but
[01:44] <Tm_T> feierfox: that prolly is the reason why filerights are borked
[01:44] <sutija> i was editing xorg.conf
[01:44] <feierfox> i want use dolphin as file-manager
[01:45] <Tm_T> feierfox: yes, but dont use sudo with it
[01:45] <feierfox> so how to give dolphin the special-right?
[01:45] <sutija> how to restart gdm or else to use new xorg.conf?
[01:45] <Tm_T> feierfox: kdesu
[01:45] <feierfox> kdesu?
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> sutija: the proper way is sudo /etd/init.d/gdm restart
[01:45] <Tm_T> !kdesu | feierfox
[01:45] <ubotu> feierfox: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> oooooops
[01:46] <Daisuke_Laptop> that should be /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:46] <feierfox> hhhmmm...
[01:46] <feierfox> or i wait for a stable gutsy
[01:46] <Tm_T> feierfox: er?
[01:46] <Tm_T> feierfox: this has nothing to do with gutsy
[01:46] <feierfox> :(
[01:46] <Tm_T> feierfox: how about just fix those filerights now?
[01:47] <feierfox> but dolphin is the standard file-manager in gutsy
[01:47] <feierfox> and dolphin came with gutsy
[01:47] <feierfox> so it's a gutsy thing
[01:47] <Tm_T> no its not
[01:47] <feierfox> if you could help me to fix, i will try my best :/
[01:48] <Tm_T> feierfox: run this in Konsole: "sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu -r /home/ubuntu/.kde/share/apps/d3lphin/ "
[01:48] <sutija> daisuke: let's see what we have :)
[01:49] <sutija> :(
[01:49] <feierfox> "invalied option"
[01:49] <Tm_T> feierfox: what is?
[01:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> hmm?
[01:50] <sutija> desktop effects doesn't want to work on my ubuntu :(
[01:50] <mefisto__> should that be /dolphin/ ?
[01:50] <Tm_T> mefisto__: no
[01:50] <feierfox> sorry
[01:50] <Tm_T> feierfox: aah, not -r but -R
[01:50] <feierfox> :D
[01:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> sutija: try #ubuntu-effects
[01:50] <Tm_T> feierfox: my mistake
[01:53] <feierfox> hmmm
[01:53] <Tm_T> feierfox: works?
[01:54] <feierfox> chown: invalid option -- r
[01:54] <Tm_T> feierfox: yes, use R
[01:54] <Tm_T> 0250 < Tm_T> feierfox: aah, not -r but -R
[01:54] <feierfox> no such file or directory
[01:54] <feierfox> :(
[01:55] <george_> everytime I tri to move a file from one directory to another is tell me access is denied
[01:55] <Tm_T> feierfox: give me full error thank you
[01:55] <feierfox> chown: Zugriff auf ubuntu nicht mglich: No such file or directory
[01:56] <feierfox> zugriff (access)
[01:56] <Tm_T> err
[01:56] <feierfox> (nicht mglich) not possible
[01:56] <feierfox> or not able
[01:56] <Chousuke> so access denied
[01:56] <Tm_T> feierfox: ls -al /home/ returns what? pastebin it
[01:56] <Chousuke> it says the reason there quite plainly :P
[01:57] <console_jockey> it looks as though setting up ubuntu via gnome for remote desktop access is pretty easy, but I can't seem to locate the equivelent setup for kubutnu.  Anyone have know how to do this or have a link to help?
[01:57] <Tm_T> Chousuke: yes it does
[01:57] <feierfox>   1 root   root      44 2007-03-24 18:38 .directory -> /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/directory-home
[01:57] <feierfox> drwxr-xr-x 165 ubuntu ubuntu 12288 2007-09-25 22:40 ubuntu
[01:57] <feierfox> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[01:57] <zeicron> Hello
[01:58] <JimmyDee_> sudo chown?
[01:58] <Chousuke> sudo doesn't help if the file doesn't exist
[01:58] <Chousuke> :P
[01:58] <JimmyDee_> point
[01:58] <zeicron> Hey, could someone please help me out for a second?
[01:58] <Chousuke> but yes, chown needs sudo.
[01:58] <feierfox> i'm with ubuntu since dapper
[01:58] <JimmyDee_> forgive me I came in in the middle
[01:58] <zeicron> It won't take more than a few minutes.
[01:58] <feierfox> and changed to KDE with Feisty
[01:58] <Chousuke> zeicron: just ask
[01:58] <feierfox> never did a reinstall
[01:58] <JimmyDee_> whatcha need zeicron?
[01:58] <Tm_T> feierfox: now find out what file is missing
[01:59] <feierfox> now i think about a fresh installation with the final gutsy
[01:59] <zeicron> I just switched to Kubuntu. I've been meaning to switch to Linux for a long time now. Now that I've done that, I'm pretty lost. Could someone please tell me how to install .run files?
[01:59] <Tm_T> zeicron: what you're installing?
[01:59] <JimmyDee_> sudo chmod +x blahblah.run
[01:59] <JimmyDee_> sudo ./blahblah.run
[02:00] <feierfox> but i can past my whole source-list :D
[02:00] <Tm_T> zeicron: usually you install them by running them
[02:00] <zeicron> I'm installing ATI drivers for my x1950 pro.
[02:00] <Tm_T> JimmyDee_: nooooooo
[02:00] <JimmyDee_> or am I on crack?
[02:00] <zeicron> Running the file just opens up a text-like document.
[02:00] <Tm_T> zeicron: yes
[02:00] <feierfox> hey!
[02:00] <JimmyDee_> <-- is wrong
[02:00] <feierfox> the solution would be...
[02:00] <Tm_T> feierfox: yes?
[02:00] <feierfox> sudo apt-get remove dolphin
[02:00] <feierfox> and use konqui
[02:01] <feierfox> :]
[02:01] <Tm_T> err
[02:01] <zeicron> err
[02:01] <JimmyDee_> sudo apt-get remove JimmyDee
[02:01] <zeicron> No idea what you just said.
[02:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> oi
[02:01] <Tm_T> zeicron: he has his own problems ;)
[02:01] <feierfox> what does err means?
[02:01] <feierfox> please show me the smilie to "err" :]
[02:01] <Tm_T> feierfox: nothing
[02:01] <zeicron> Well, when I run the file, I get a message that says "The file file:///home/zeicron/ati.run is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file."
[02:01] <feierfox> argh?
[02:02] <zeicron> The smilie to err would look something like =\
[02:02] <Tm_T> zeicron: yes, open konsole and run it "sudo sh /path/to/file.run" where you fill the path and file to match yours
[02:03] <zeicron> Open console by pressing... ~? :)
[02:03] <zeicron> Nvm, got it
[02:03] <Tm_T> haha
[02:04] <zeicron> Thanks man.
[02:04] <Tm_T> zeicron: also
[02:04] <zeicron> So what exactly do "Sudo" and "sh" do
[02:04] <Tm_T> !ati | zeicron
[02:04] <ubotu> zeicron: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:04] <zeicron> Neat.
[02:04] <feierfox> anyone experience in running Explorer under Wine?
[02:04] <ardchoille> !sudo | zeicron
[02:04] <ubotu> zeicron: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:04] <zeicron> Wow.
[02:05] <ardchoille> zeicron: That is why we don't enable the root account
[02:05] <Tm_T> zeicron: and sh means "run following file whatever it is executable or not"
[02:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> feierfox: why in god's name would you want to?
[02:05] <feierfox> :]
[02:05] <ardchoille> Daisuke_Laptop: lol
[02:06] <feierfox> oh
[02:06] <feierfox> time for
[02:06] <feierfox> checking new updates!
[02:06] <zeicron> Alright, I've got it installed. Shall I reboot?
[02:06] <`Telroth> After updating my machine, the sata drive (/dev/sda, 250GB) reads at extremely slow speeds and the console spits out http://pastebin.com/f470e3602 over and over again. Any help?
[02:07] <feierfox> reboot and defrag!
[02:07] <Tm_T> zeicron: prolly so
[02:07] <zeicron> Thanks. I really appreciate the help.
[02:07] <`Telroth> feierfox, ext3 doesn't defrag, and the drive reads fine in windows
[02:08] <feierfox> just kidding :/
[02:08] <wesley> does some knows how its possible that i dont see the video of my timeline in Kdenlive?
[02:08] <`Telroth> slow asin taking 10 minutes to get from usplash to load the login bg (not even login text, just bg)
[02:08] <zeicron> Aww, Ctrl+alt+del does not bring up task manager :(
[02:08] <`Telroth> zeicron, you can make it do that
[02:08] <zeicron> Really? How's that?
[02:09] <`Telroth> open up the hotkey manager, unbind it from logout, bind it to show the task list :P
[02:09] <zeicron> Neat. Thanks
[02:09] <`Telroth> i'm in windows right now due to the sata problem i posted earlier, so i can't give you specifics
[02:09] <`Telroth> yw
[02:09] <`Telroth> :)
[02:10] <zeicron> Hmm.
[02:10] <wesley> does someone know about that problem in kdenlive?
[02:10] <zeicron> My Monitor & Display settings would not allow me to increase my resolution above 1280x1024.
[02:11] <zeicron> !ati | zeicron
[02:11] <zeicron> :(
[02:11] <feierfox> what do you think...
[02:12] <feierfox> will KDE4,x be in kubuntu8.04?
[02:12] <`Telroth> After updating my machine, the sata drive (/dev/sda, 250GB) reads at extremely slow speeds and the console spits out http://pastebin.com/f470e3602 over and over again. Any help?
[02:12] <zeicron> Be right back.
[02:13] <hydrogen> feierfox: I'd be surprised if it was the default desktop
[02:13] <feierfox> yes... as LTS
[02:13] <feierfox> :/
[02:14] <iago> hola
[02:14] <feierfox> lol
[02:14] <feierfox> yeah!!!!!
[02:14] <feierfox> yeah!!!!!
[02:14] <feierfox> yeah!!!!!
[02:14] <feierfox> :D
[02:14] <iago> como se instalan programas enn linux?
[02:14] <iago> how doo you insttall programs in linux
[02:15] <feierfox> i solved my problem
[02:15] <hungrysam> cual tipo de programas?
[02:15] <hydrogen> english!
[02:15] <feierfox> by just setting the writing-rights in den bookmarks.xml
[02:15] <hydrogen> !es
[02:15] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:15] <iago> en general
[02:15] <zeicron> Grats feierfox!
[02:15] <iago> es que no sse nada de liiinux
[02:15] <feierfox> just a right-click.. a klick in the tab and set two settings
[02:15] <feierfox> :D
[02:15] <feierfox> no endless console-lines
[02:16] <`Telroth> iago, alt+f2, "kdesu adept-installer", select the program, click install
[02:16] <hungrysam> #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es
[02:16] <feierfox> but thank you all for trying to help me!! :O
[02:16] <feierfox> whoohoo!
[02:16] <zeicron> I don't think kubuntu recognizes my graphics card.
[02:16] <feierfox> \o/
[02:16] <Tm_T> feierfox: no, KDE4 wont be in 8.04 as default
[02:16] <zeicron> it gives me a 1280x1024 max resolution
[02:16] <zeicron> While my monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050
[02:17] <Tm_T> !resolution
[02:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:17] <Eeyore-Jr> what would cause a kerel panic from boot on the live cd?
[02:18] <hungrysam> iago:  hablamos en #kubuntu-es
[02:18] <newbi1> xp giving me a headake
[02:19] <newsense07> lol
[02:19] <newsense07> right
[02:19] <`Telroth> After updating my machine, the sata drive (/dev/sda, 250GB) reads at extremely slow speeds and the console spits out http://pastebin.com/f470e3602 over and over again. Any help?
[02:20] <quixogre> telroth, what did you update?
[02:20] <feierfox> lol http://de.rofl.to/abschlussfeier-clip-mix
[02:20] <zeicron> Err.
[02:20] <zeicron> That just restarted my PC
[02:20] <`Telroth> quixogre, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:20] <`Telroth> so, in all honesty, no *real* clue
[02:21] <`Telroth> kernel didn't update though
[02:21] <zeicron> !resolution
[02:21] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:21] <BluesKaj> zeicron, in the terminal to check your video card , lspci | grep video
[02:21] <`Telroth> i quit waiting for it to show the password prompt on the console login after 5 minutes though
[02:21] <zeicron> With the |'s?
[02:22] <quixogre> telrot not running out of room on the drive?
[02:22] <Biovore> pipes?
[02:22] <BluesKaj> yup
[02:22] <`Telroth> 2gb free
[02:22] <zeicron> bash: syntax error near unexpected toekn `|'
[02:22] <BluesKaj> just copy and paste the text into the terminal
[02:22] <mneptok> `Telroth: did you dist-upgrade?
[02:23] <`Telroth> mneptok, no, just upgrade
[02:23] <zeicron> Okay
[02:23] <zeicron> I did
[02:23] <zeicron> Nothing happened
[02:23] <mneptok> `Telroth: do a dist-upgrade
[02:23] <zeicron> Just gave me a new line to write on
[02:23] <`Telroth> mneptok, i can't get into the system
[02:23] <mneptok> `Telroth: there may be modules you need
[02:23] <mneptok> `Telroth: boot to an older kernel.
[02:23] <quixogre> only 2gb free on a 250 gb drive? hehe thats a lotta files
[02:24] <`Telroth> mneptok, i'm booting an older kernel
[02:24] <`Telroth> i'll go try an even older one
[02:24] <BluesKaj> ok zeicron try just lspci .. then check for your videocard
[02:24] <`Telroth> bbiab
[02:24] <`Telroth> quixogre, yeah my two 80's are already full
[02:24] <zeicron> Doesn't :(
[02:24] <zeicron> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 7280
[02:24] <zeicron> 01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 72a0
[02:25] <zeicron> But I've installed catalyst control center.
[02:25] <zeicron> Althought it refuses to open
[02:25] <BluesKaj> oh no, a 7000 series...very poor support for those
[02:25] <zeicron> It's not.
[02:25] <zeicron> It's a x1950 pro.
[02:26] <newbi1> Tm_T: i have a kubuntu cd that have the built in driver for my sound card.if i go on xp(witch i dont have sound)and do i search on the kubuntu cd will it take the drivers?
[02:26] <zeicron> =[
[02:27] <Tm_T> newbi1: why you ask from me? also, you try to install Linux drivers to Windows XP ?
[02:27] <newbi1> mmm no i just asking if it compatible
[02:27] <BluesKaj> zeicron, did yo install the 8.40.4 driver ?
[02:27] <zeicron> the what-what driver?
[02:28] <newbi1> because i cant find the right drivers for my sound card for xp
[02:28] <zeicron> 8.40.4 is what I installed, yes
[02:28] <Tm_T> newbi1: Linux driver in Windows?
[02:28] <quixogre> newbi you cant install linux drivers on XP
[02:28] <Tm_T> simply as that, you cant
[02:28] <newbi1> lol
[02:29] <quixogre> although you CAN install some windows drivers in xp
[02:29] <newbi1> this su***
[02:29] <BluesKaj> zeicon , does the fgl_glxgears test work ? ...a spning cube with spinning gears on each face ?
[02:29] <newbi1> quixogre: help me to find the right drivers for my motherboard
[02:29] <Strogol> some community of kubuntu in portuguese
[02:29] <zeicron> Don't
[02:30] <zeicron> Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
[02:30] <zeicron> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:30] <zeicron> X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[02:30] <zeicron>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[02:30] <zeicron>   Minor opcode of failed request:  5 (X_GLXMakeCurrent)
[02:30] <zeicron>   Serial number of failed request:  30
[02:30] <zeicron>   Current serial number in output stream:  30
[02:30] <quixogre> newbi, what kind of motherboard is it?
[02:30] <BluesKaj> !pt | Strogol
[02:30] <ubotu> Strogol: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:31] <newbi1> quixogre: i have no idea i run lspci on it with the cd live to see all im seing is ati's
[02:31] <Strogol> because I use kde
[02:31] <Eeyore-Jr> is there a way i can view the boot sequence and not the logo/progress bar?
[02:32] <mneptok> Eeyore-Jr: remove "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel boot parameters
[02:32] <quixogre> newbi, find the board make and model, then check their website for drivers
[02:32] <BluesKaj> zeicron, uninstall that driver and install the 8.41.7 here are the uninstall instructions : https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.40.4-inst.html
[02:32] <zeicron> But it only gives me 8.40.4 on the ATI site
[02:33] <quixogre> can someone tell me how to launch beryl?
[02:33] <BluesKaj> zeicon here is the driver you want http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeonhdd.html
[02:33] <zeicron> Thank you.
[02:34] <zeicron> "The AMD Proprietary Linux driver version 8.41 is recommended for the ATI Radeon HD 2000 family only"
[02:34] <BluesKaj> zeicron, all I did was choose the radeon HD 2900 , it works on my X200G :)
[02:35] <BluesKaj> don't beleive everything they tell you
[02:35] <zeicron> Alright
[02:35] <zeicron> Although I have no idea how to uninstall stuff :)
[02:36] <BluesKaj> zeicron, uninstall instructions are here : https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.40.4-inst.html
[02:36] <quixogre> can someone tell me how to launch beryl?
[02:36] <mneptok> zeicron: do NOT install drivers from company websites
[02:36] <mneptok> zeicron: especially if you're new to Linux
[02:36] <mneptok> zeicron: use the package system. that's why it exists.
[02:37] <zeicron> Alright.
[02:37] <zeicron> So how do I navigate to a certain location in console? Is there like a "cd" type of command?
[02:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> so i now have a tv that supports vga-in
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> and would like to use it as a second desktop
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> i can get a picture at 1024x768
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> but not 1280x768
[02:38] <mneptok> zeicron: yeah. it's "cd"
[02:38] <zeicron> Oh. Thanks
[02:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> the tv's native res is 1366x768, i wonder if putting that in the xorg.conf would make a difference
[02:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> because i would much rather stream video out here in the living room rather than have to watch it in the bedroom
[02:39] <BluesKaj> thx for the confidence boost mneptok , that really helps
[02:39] <BluesKaj> I'm here to walk him thru
[02:39] <purpleposeidon> fiesty fawn should come with a picture of a fiesty fawn!
[02:39] <george_> i am trying to move a file I downloaded into the /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins directory with konqueror and it says permission denied, how do I sudo in the GUI?
[02:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> you could always launch konqueror with kdesu
[02:40] <joscar_> i get this error message when i try to safely remove my external drive: Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL. What do I do?
[02:40] <Daisuke_Laptop> but be careful
[02:40] <quixogre> george: cp *filename* /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
[02:40] <newbi1> BluesKaj: how do i find out my motherboard model number?
[02:40] <george_> ok thank
[02:40] <zeicron> zeicron@zeicron-desktop:~$ cd /usr/share/ati folder
[02:40] <zeicron> zeicron@zeicron-desktop:/usr/share/ati$ sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[02:40] <zeicron> [Warning]  Uninstall : must be run as root to execute this script
[02:40] <zeicron> zeicron@zeicron-desktop:/usr/share/ati$
[02:41] <NickPresta> zeicron, !pastebin and use `sudo`. See !sudo
[02:41] <lubos> what package is for amarok mp3 support on feisty ? thanks
[02:41] <quixogre> newbi, worst case, its printed on the motherboard. open the machine up and look
[02:41] <BluesKaj> zeicron , there's nothing wrong with the ati driver but if you're lacking in terminal skills then we're here to help
[02:41] <zeicron> !pastebin
[02:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <newbi1> quixogre: i did but it got so manythings writ on it
[02:42] <BluesKaj> newb1 , lspci in the terminal
[02:42] <newbi1> BluesKaj: did it
[02:42] <quixogre> newbi, it'll be one of the larger lettered items on the board. usually towards one corner
[02:43] <newbi1> BluesKaj: witch line is for the motherboard?(its the drivers for the sound im looking for)
[02:43] <BluesKaj> newb1 , lspci | grep audio
[02:44] <quixogre> ubotu, i love you
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i love you - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <zeicron> I've installed the newer version, but it still says unknown device :(
[02:45] <BluesKaj> what says unknown device
[02:45] <quixogre> ubotu beryl
[02:45] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:47] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, mneptok, back. i'm having it run dist-upgrade
[02:48] <Telroth|Sleep> seems kernel is getting upgrade, though it's weird that 2 different kernels are having the same problem
[02:48] <Telroth|Sleep> i'll be back in about half an hour to let you know how things are going
[02:49] <newbi1> BluesKaj: sorry i went for a 2min break.it says ati tech* inc ixp sb400 ac'97 audio controller (rev 01)
[02:49] <zeicron> Urgh, it still doesn't recognize my card *tear*
[02:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> !xinerama
[02:49] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[02:50] <hydrogen> lubos: libxine-extracodecs
[02:51] <BluesKaj> zeicron, how do you know it doesn't recognize your card,  try 'glxgears ' in the terminal
[02:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> i *will* get this tv working as a second monitor
[02:51] <lubos> hydrogen: what repository... universe?
[02:51] <lubos> hydrogen: got it... thanks
[02:52] <zeicron> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:52] <zeicron> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[02:52] <zeicron> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[02:52] <BluesKaj> bummer
[02:53] <Tm_T> I'm not!
[02:53] <Tm_T> and hi BluesKaj :)
[02:54] <BluesKaj> zeicron, alt+F2 type this: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T
[02:55] <zeicron> 	Device		"Generic Video Card"
[02:55] <Tm_T> zeicron: what says driver line?
[02:56] <Tm_T> name of device is irrelevant
[02:56] <zeicron> No such line, I think
[02:56] <Tm_T> !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <zeicron> Oh
[02:56] <zeicron> says
[02:56] <zeicron> vesa
[02:56] <BluesKaj> zeicron, look in the device section , beside driver type fglrx
[02:56] <zeicron> "vesa"
[02:56] <quixogre> telroth, wb is it running this time?
[02:57] <Telroth|Sleep> the system runs, but that's not the problem. it runs really, really slow
[02:57] <Telroth|Sleep> for example
[02:57] <Telroth|Sleep> at tty1 login
[02:57] <kloplop321> can someone help me with geting my computer to use my 2 mice as seperate cursors?
[02:57] <BluesKaj> zeicron, ?
[02:57] <zeicron> Type what?
[02:57] <Telroth|Sleep> i can type user, wait ~2min for "password:" to appear, wait 7 min for prompt
[02:58] <ironman> hello does every know where i can find more repositories and some repositories for 3rdparty software
[02:58] <BluesKaj> fglrx
[02:58] <Telroth|Sleep> type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:58] <zeicron> And now just save it?
[02:58] <quixogre> telroth, this is happening even without xwindows?
[02:58] <BluesKaj> not yet
[02:58] <Telroth|Sleep> without xwindows
[02:58] <ironman> telroth was that  for me?
[02:58] <Telroth|Sleep> ironman, no
[02:58] <newbi1> mm*
[02:58] <ironman> oh ok
[02:58] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, and it spits out that error message i linked to earlier every 6 seconds or so
[02:59] <quixogre> try freeing some disk space...how big is swap space?
[02:59] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, no swap, 3gb of ram
[02:59] <xp_killer> :)
[02:59] <zeicron> Alright, what shall I do next?
[02:59] <quixogre> i'd recommend setting up at least 6 gb of swap space then....and with 3 gb of ram, shouldnt be running that slowly
[03:00] <Telroth|Sleep> i had no problems yesterday or this morning. When i got home, system wasn't running (power loss is most likely, i doubt anyone in my family was able to shut down the thing properly so i suspect it hardreset sometime today)
[03:00] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, the system runs fine for data it's loaded into ram. the problem is my sata drive (/) is reading very, very slowly
[03:01] <quixogre> have you tried swapping drives?
[03:01] <ironman> can someone help me get more repository list
[03:01] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, no, but all drives run fine in windows
[03:01] <quixogre> so the same drive, when running windows runs fine?
[03:01] <Telroth|Sleep> yes
[03:01] <wers> what is the package name of knetworkmanager?
[03:01] <zeicron> Is there anything else I should change?
[03:01] <Telroth|Sleep> well, windows runs from a different drive
[03:01] <wers> E: Couldn't find package knetworkmanger
[03:01] <BluesKaj> BBL , gotta go
[03:02] <Telroth|Sleep> but it can access the sata drive at full speed
[03:02] <zeicron> Have a good one.
[03:03] <xp_killer> wers: why do u want to install knet*?isnt it there allready?
[03:03] <wers> I want to remove it xp_killer
[03:03] <quixogre> telroth how many partitions on this sata drive?
[03:03] <xp_killer> wers: why?
[03:03] <xp_killer> quixogre: 5
[03:03] <xp_killer> hi
[03:04] <wers> It does not work with my hardware xp_killer
[03:04] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[03:04] <quixogre> thow big is boot partition?
[03:04] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:04] <xp_killer> goog bot
[03:04] <wers> also, the backend for that.. I forgot the name
[03:04] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, 3 (25gb - linux, 25gb - music, 200gb - data)
[03:05] <Telroth|Sleep> boot partition is grub installed to mbr
[03:05] <xp_killer> wers: so leave it there i find a nother one
[03:05] <Telroth|Sleep> mbr of sata drive
[03:05] <Telroth|Sleep> it seems to load fine
[03:07] <xp_killer> wers: if u want to uninstall knet* go in adept
[03:07] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, also, why 6gb of swap, i mean, i know the rule of swap = ram * 2, but what's the reasoning behind that? I don't sleep/hibernate the computer
[03:07] <quixogre> telroth, sorry man, no untu completely?clue what to tell ya. maybe try reinstalling ub
[03:08] <quixogre> telroth, same reason you have a page file in windows. it helps prevent the disk from thrashing
[03:08] <hydrogen> err
[03:08] <Telroth|Sleep> thrashing?
[03:08] <Telroth|Sleep> can you explain what that is?
[03:08] <hydrogen> 6gb is a hell of a lot of prevention
[03:08] <hydrogen> its wayy into the overkill zone
[03:08] <Telroth|Sleep> i thought pagefile/swap was for virtual memory
[03:09] <quixogre> thrashing = disk just keeps spinning and spinning
[03:09] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, how does storing more data on the drive prevent that?
[03:09] <hydrogen> obviously it makes it heavier
[03:09] <hydrogen> so it spins for less tie
[03:09] <hydrogen> me
[03:09] <hydrogen> don't you know anything about physics!
[03:10] <Telroth|Sleep> if i don't have swap, doesn't that reduce the read/writes compared to if i have swap and it's paging memory off onto it?
[03:10] <quixogre> and hydrogens probably right 6gb is a bit much hehe not used to dealing with single user systems...
[03:10] <xp_killer> Tm_T: **** ***
[03:10] <xp_killer> hiii
[03:10] <hydrogen> Tm_T--
[03:10] <xp_killer> !botsnack
[03:11] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:11] <xp_killer> goog bot :)
[03:11] <Tm_T> xp_killer: yes?
[03:11] <ironman> do i need to install a firewall and antivirus?
[03:11] <hydrogen> firewall: yes
[03:11] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, i guess what i'm saying is for two years i ran the system with 1gb of ram and 1gb swap, it never paged a kb onto the swap partition, and i don't see how increasing the ram to 3gb is going to make it more likely to decide to put something on swap
[03:11] <hydrogen> or you should
[03:11] <xp_killer> Tm_T: hydrogencall u not me
[03:11] <Tm_T> xp_killer: you did
[03:11] <ironman> so i can do without a anitvirus?
[03:11] <hydrogen> AV: not unless your paranoid or sharing with winddows
[03:11] <xp_killer> Tm_T: where is stdin?
[03:12] <quixogre> telroth if its worked, dont fix it...im going by textbook answer only
[03:12] <Telroth|Sleep> ironman, yes, i fyou know how to brows the internet properly and know your system well
[03:12] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, ok
[03:12] <xp_killer> ow
[03:12] <hydrogen> Telroth|Sleep: swap is kind of a precaution.. for desktop usage its not all that necessary usually if you have lots and lots of ram
[03:12] <ironman> ok whats a good firewall for kde
[03:12] <Telroth|Sleep> hydrogen, yes, that's what i thought
[03:12] <xp_killer> >_< i will neever forget that
[03:12] <Tm_T> !firewall | ironman
[03:12] <ubotu> ironman: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:12] <Telroth|Sleep> ironman, the computer firewalls itself
[03:12] <xp_killer> !violence
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about violence - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <Tm_T> xp_killer: stop bot abuse
[03:13] <xp_killer> why?
[03:13] <xp_killer> it doesnt kill it
[03:13] <hydrogen> it pains my eyes
[03:13] <hydrogen> L,ASERS
[03:14] <quixogre> remind me not to irk TM_T
[03:14] <Tm_T> quixogre: what?
[03:14] <hydrogen> just take away some karma and tm_t will be happy
[03:15] <quixogre> lol TM_T nothing. just kissing up to the dude with the boot
[03:16] <quixogre> telroth, explain your problem in chat, maybe someone will have an answer, cus im stumped(not hard to do)
[03:18] <hydrogen> I think your doin something crazy when you deop yourself tm_t
[03:18] <hydrogen> because you always take operator priveges from me when you do so (or at least thats what konvi thinks)
[03:18] <Tm_T> hydrogen: what makes you think so?
[03:18] <hydrogen> [21:16]  *** Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from Tm_T.
[03:18] <hydrogen> [21:16]  *** Tm_T takes channel operator privileges from you.
[03:18] <Tm_T> hydrogen: I always take it from you or some one else, yes, as a joke
[03:19] <hydrogen> oh
[03:19] <hydrogen> fine
[03:19] <hydrogen> if you want to try and be funny
[03:19] <hydrogen> I won't complain
[03:19] <hydrogen> why you always hate on me thouhg!
[03:19] <Tm_T> because youre the cutest!
[03:19] <hydrogen> oh
[03:19] <hydrogen> okay
[03:19] <hydrogen> <3
[03:20] <isa268[FAN] > hello how do i install kde4?
[03:20] <hydrogen> RTFT
[03:20] <hydrogen> or
[03:20] <hydrogen> look at the topic
[03:20] <hydrogen> its your choice
[03:20] <Tm_T> now now, hydrogen remember to smile ;)
[03:20] <hydrogen> oops
[03:21] <hydrogen> --0
[03:21] <hydrogen> installing kde4 is most likely going to be a big disappointment though
[03:21] <hydrogen> unless your into reductionism
[03:22] <Telroth|Sleep> I recently upgraded my system and now the root drive (sata) has an extremly slow read speed (symptom of problem). any ideas?
[03:22] <quixogre> linux has been givin mrighte headaches all day. beryl is the only thing thats working
[03:22] <Telroth|Sleep> now that's ironic quixogre :P
[03:23] <quixogre> yeah. tell me about it. wireshark wont work, cus it doesnt recognize my version of gtk+...my wireless network card got deleted, and i cant figure out how to reinstall the drivers
[03:24] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, modprobe <wifi module driver> ?
[03:25] <quixogre> anyone here have a broadcom 4401 ethernet card and know how to install it from scratch?
[03:26] <quixogre> telroth, only driver i can find, requires me to build. and glibc is flaking out when i try
[03:26] <tekstacy> This aircard I am looking at says it supportts xp, osx and has ndis driver suppport. Is it likely to work with kubuntu?
[03:27] <quixogre> tekstacy, if it supports ndis worst cae, you'll have to use ndis wrapper for it
[03:28] <tekstacy> quixoge, there is a special page in the ubuntu wiki for broadcom cards.   Sorry, I don'nt recall where I got the info but I got broadcom card to work
[03:30] <quixogre> tekstacy, thanks, had it working, just would connect to wpa network
[03:30] <quixogre> wouldnt*
[03:31] <x-men_> hola
[03:31] <quixogre> hewwo
[03:32] <quixogre> back to BF2 for a bit. just made new rank, get to unlock new weapon
[03:33] <ubuntu> ola
[03:33] <ubuntu> ay alguien
[03:35] <quixogre> !spanish |elbuscador
[03:35] <ubotu> elbuscador: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:37] <hydrogen> !inuitikuk | me
[03:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inuitikuk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:37] <hydrogen> what, no ubuntu for the eskimo's??
[03:37] <quixogre> lol
[03:38] <Telroth|Sleep> quixogre, for the record it seems the system was interrupted mid-apt update
[03:38] <Telroth|Sleep> thank god for livecd + chroot
[03:38] <quixogre> lol telroth so its working now?
[03:38] <Telroth|Sleep> i don't know
[03:38] <Telroth|Sleep> it's still installing the downloaded updates
[03:39] <Telroth|Sleep> what i hate though is the livecd's don't like my mobo hardware
[03:39] <level1> !flv
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flv - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <level1> !mp3
[03:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:39] <Telroth|Sleep> (wifi card, jmicron ide controller, etc)
[03:39] <quixogre> i was surprised how easily it installed on my dell laptop
[03:39] <Biovore> if your going to use linux.. buy hardware that works  with it :-P
[03:41] <level1> Biovore: we shouldn't resign ourselves to that solution
[03:41] <Biovore> well.. thats what works :-)
[03:41] <level1> what do I need to play flv from kaffine?
[03:42] <quixogre> agreed. once linux has true plug and play, windows wont have anything left
[03:42] <Biovore> untill hardware venders stop being gay.. were just screwed..
[03:42] <quixogre> well, plug and play, and game development....
[03:42] <level1> quixogre: games?  but even that is starting to fall apart
[03:43] <Biovore> well basicly anything for the PS3 can be ported to linux fairly easilly
[03:43] <quixogre> i dunno. saw previews of halo3...looks like its gonna be awesome
[03:43] <Dragnslcr> It's not even a problem with many hardware vendors
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> Broadcom is the only major problem
[03:44] <Dragnslcr> ATI and nVidia to a lesser extent, but AMD may force that issue
[03:44] <quixogre> im dealing with a broadcom ethernet card right now. their idea of linux support is dumping broken code on the web, and calling it a driver
[03:44] <Biovore> well intel and aceria are the only ones that have put the money where the mouth is..  And maybe AMD..
[03:45] <vip3rousmango> Anyone know what an "has an x86 boot sector" means??
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> AMD just bought ATI, so it'll take them a little time
[03:45] <quixogre> think im gonna reinstall ubuntu/kubuntu....i  need the practice
[03:45] <Dragnslcr> Hopefully it'll force nVidia's hand
[03:45] <Biovore> rgr.. they release the specs for the r200 cards
[03:45] <intelikey> i have an update.    i found the "silent sound" issue.   it seems that some onboard sound devices will not function properly with a non-amplified speeker system.   pluging + amp speakers in solves the problem    the pcm-preamp is adjustable and the extra pcm controls work propperly   they don't snap back to the preset defaults.
[03:45] <Biovore> So we shall see what happens
[03:46] <Biovore> yeah.. sounds on ubuntu has lost of weird problems like that..
[03:46] <quixogre> see if i can get my nic working wifi again
[03:46] <Biovore> the mic input on my sounds  card is line..
[03:46] <intelikey> confirmed on two boxes both using ac'97 drives     one ubuntu hoary the other kubuntu dapper.   same issue same cause, same cure.
[03:47] <vip3rousmango> Anyone know how to erase the MBR on a usb flash drive? I'm trying to whipe a lil 128mb usb drive to install DSL on it. But I keep getting "has x86 boot sector" error saying its a zeroed non-bootable master boot record. This mean it can't be used for DSL?
[03:48] <quixogre> okay noob question: how do i burn an iso to cd with ubuntu/kde?
[03:48] <Biovore> k3b works good
[03:48] <vip3rousmango> quixogre: get Nero Linux
[03:48] <intelikey> vip3rousmango installing any boot loader should fix it's MBR   also you can    dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<usb_disk> count=1
[03:49] <Dragnslcr> k3b works well for me
[03:49] <vip3rousmango> intel i did dd if=dev/zero of=dev/sdb1 bs=446 count=1
[03:49] <vip3rousmango> yet nothing would happen
[03:49] <vip3rousmango> or, i don't know if it worked
[03:49] <Biovore> isn't the bootsector 512 bytes long?
[03:49] <intelikey> vip3rousmango mbr is 512 bytes    no ?
[03:50] <intelikey> ok i lag now.
[03:50] <vip3rousmango> yeah, but then that kills the tables as well
[03:50] <vip3rousmango> doesn't it?
[03:50] <Biovore> and.. thats what you want..
[03:50] <vip3rousmango> alright then =b
[03:50] <Biovore> if your going to image the device..
[03:51] <vip3rousmango> so then should i try: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 count=1?
[03:51] <vip3rousmango> and then after ms-sys -s /dev/sdb1 to create the new MBR?
[03:54] <vip3rousmango> ok, so i just did the cmd and.. now it says /dev/sdb1 has no x86 boot sector and I can't run ms-sys -s /dev/sdb1 because it says i have to run ms-sys -f /dev/sdb1 to force writing of a partiton table.
[03:54] <vip3rousmango> but when i run ms-sys -f /dev/sdb1 i get the error saying no x86 boot sector and im back to where i started. -b
[03:57] <quixogre> bbl all. rebooting, and reinstalling ubuntu from scratch
[03:57] <vip3rousmango> oh fun fun
[04:03] <npurciful> hello i got a stupid question, i close the konsole window with a program windows and i need to know what it is outputing is there a way to reconnect to the program
[04:03] <feierfox> bye
[04:05] <Biovore> npurciful: that program probably died as well
[04:06] <npurciful> no the program is runing
[04:07] <Dragnslcr> npurciful- not that I'm aware of. If a program outputs to stdout and stdout goes away, the output goes off into the void
[04:08] <npurciful> okay i guess i will wait for the program to die
[04:09] <tekstacy> goodnight all
[04:16] <ironman> hey whats up
[04:17] <Eeyore-Jr> heh, real player wont install.  why?
[04:19] <ironman> sup
[04:20] <tazgodx> so i got a problem installing kubuntu witht he alternate cd. everytime i boot up and choose isntall i get an error that it can't mount the cd. anyone know how i can fix that?
[04:20] <tazgodx> does teh same thing with installing ubuntu alt cd, but a few other distros i have installed fine, and the live cd is fine
[04:20] <ironman> kubuntu is cool so far
[04:21] <Eeyore-Jr> how do i do sudo ./RealPlayer, it comes back with "command not found".
[04:21] <Eeyore-Jr> i'm confused
[04:23] <ironman> whats the best media player for divx and wmv
[04:24] <jhutchins> ironman: If there were a best, there wouldn't be twenty-'leven options.
[04:24] <Jucato> !codecs
[04:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:25] <tazgodx> ironman: try vlc
[04:25] <ironman> ok thx
[04:25] <Tm_T> ironman: dont know about best but I use kmplayer because I can use xine, mplayer and gstreamer for it
[04:25] <jhutchins> ironman: I like mplayer.  Many people like VLC.
[04:25] <ironman> kubuntu/ubuntu has the best community
[04:25] <ironman> yall are always willing to help
[04:25] <jhutchins> Most of the others are toys that work some of the time.
[04:26] <Jucato> Tm_T: yay for kmplayer :)
[04:26] <jhutchins> There are players that are actually interface shells for other players with less sophisticated interfaces.
[04:26] <Tm_T> jhutchins: xine has worked best in my use this far ;)
[04:26] <Jucato> nah.. mplayer for me hahah :P
[04:27] <jhutchins> xine is one of those back-end players that many people prefer to use as an engine behind a frienly shell.
[04:27] <Tm_T> yup
[04:27] <jhutchins> yuo.
[04:27] <Jucato> yes I would agree
[04:27] <jhutchins> p
[04:27] <jhutchins> er.
[04:27] <jhutchins> whatever.
[04:27] <Tm_T> jhutchins: pyuo indeed
[04:27] <ironman> yea im just trying to find great apps
[04:27] <Jucato> (mplayer doesn't fit the "back-end players that many people prefer to use as an engine")
[04:28] <Tm_T> ironman: try different apps :)
[04:28] <jhutchins> ironman: Well, yeah, welcome to Linux, great apps abound, it's all about what you like.
[04:28] <Jucato> !best
[04:28] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[04:28] <ironman> i need to find a news reader for binary files
[04:31] <kloplop321> can somebody help me with having multiple mice? I found this but http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons it doesn't seem to work for me(doesn't crash but just doesn't do anything)
[04:32] <killermach> I have a sony laptop and I bought a larger LCD monitor, plugged it in the side via DB15 connector and I have cloned display, I'm trying to setup dual display like xinerama
[04:33] <kloplop321> I don't think anybody is actually here.. nobody has even replied in the last few minutes
[04:33] <killermach> my laptop is an older viao PCG-V505DC2P and I think the display adapter is ATI radeon mobility 128
[04:33] <killermach> kloplop321:  there here.. just be patient
[04:33] <kloplop321> I have a dual display using xinerama, but I finally went to using my Nvidia settings, so, I don't know what to do for ATI
[04:34] <killermach> what do you need?
[04:34] <kloplop321> well, I have 2 screens set up now, however,
[04:34] <killermach> yeah.. nvidia has a really neat tool from there website.. works great
[04:34] <kloplop321> I want to use both of my mice seperatly
[04:34] <kloplop321> I found this but it doesn't help http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons
[04:35] <killermach> well the new monitor has 1680x1050 for display but for now it's 800x600 stretched
[04:35] <kloplop321> I did what it showed as examples, but it made no difference
[04:35] <kloplop321> lol, well I got mine from 1600 by 1200 to like 1840 by something
[04:35] <killermach> what do you mean separately?
[04:35] <kloplop321> I can boost it up to 1920 but it isn't widescreen so it looks weird
[04:35] <tazgodx> so i got a problem installing kubuntu witht he alternate cd. everytime i boot up and choose isntall i get an error that it can't mount the cd. anyone know how i can fix that?
[04:35] <kloplop321> well, as in, there are 2 cursors
[04:35] <tazgodx> does teh same thing with installing ubuntu alt cd, but a few other distros i have installed fine, and the live cd is fine
[04:36] <kloplop321> odd, are you on the live CD right now?
[04:36] <killermach> tazgodx:  after install or during initial boot to install CD?
[04:36] <kloplop321> killermach: what I want is two seperate cursors able to simaltaniously interact with things, the keyboard doesn't matter
[04:37] <sainzeo> kopete has been disconnecting me from groupwise every now and then, anyone know of a solution?
[04:37] <killermach> taz I don't think you can have 2 cursors, just two devices controlling the one cursor
[04:37] <killermach> sainzeo: use gaim.. see if problem still exists
[04:37] <tazgodx> its during the initial boot to try to install. when i start the install it can't mount the cd, so it can't install. says its usually caused by not having th CD in the drive but its there
[04:38] <sainzeo> killermach: i have used pidgin with ubuntu, but i would like to stick with kopete right now - any other suggestions?
[04:38] <kloplop321> killermach: I used this Section "ServerLayout" #....Rest of serverlayout section        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"          InputDevice    "Mouse1" "AlwaysCore" #....Rest of serverlayout section     EndSection
[04:38] <killermach> tazgodx: I read an article somewhere about having one pc shared for two people with two monitors, two mice and two keyboards..
[04:39] <kloplop321> yeah, I am trying to do the same thing but with just 2 mice
[04:41] <kloplop321> what is the default type of Xserver on Kubuntu 7.06 anyway?
[04:41] <killermach> tazgodx: I have no idea where I found that but I think I was researching thinclients
[04:41] <killermach> try google for that
[04:42] <tazgodx> killermach: kloplop321 is the guy who needs help with the mice problem
[04:42] <tazgodx> killermach: i need help with a cd mounting issue
[04:42] <kloplop321> yah I found this, but, It has no effect on my Xserver when I restart it  http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons#Multiple_Mice_Support
[04:43] <sainzeo> kopete has been disconnecting me from groupwise every now and then, anyone know of a solution?
[04:43] <kloplop321> it might just be your connection or it is kopete's problem, as I don't use groupwise
[04:43] <killermach> sainzeo: other than the one I mentioned (gaim) no
[04:44] <killermach> tazgodx: does the CD boot an install properly on other PC? could be bad CD
[04:44] <kloplop321> tazgodx: my friend had the same problem with Xubuntu, are you using a CD-RW?
[04:45] <tazgodx> its a normal CD-R, and yes it has worked before
[04:45] <tazgodx> i used it to install many times actually
[04:45] <killermach> are you trying kernel options like noapic ?
[04:45] <tazgodx> no options at all, just boot up choose install in text mode, and it says can't mount cd
[04:45] <killermach> tazgodx: many laptop installs require that
[04:45] <kloplop321> it may be a Disk drive issue
[04:46] <tazgodx> i know i have installed on this exact PC with exact config not long ago, im just trying to do a quick reinstall
[04:46] <tazgodx> with exact cd
[04:47] <kloplop321> tazgodx: well, I am not really sure on that issue :\
[04:47] <killermach> tazgodx:  have you tried that CD drive on another PC to install, could be a finicky drive
[04:47] <tazgodx> i just bought the drive like 2 months ago
[04:47] <tazgodx> lol
[04:48] <kloplop321> but, do any of you know of a way to have multiple mice on kubuntu?
[04:48] <tazgodx> i know the live ced works
[04:48] <tazgodx> and other distros work, just the kubuntu nad ubuntu alternate cds don't, and i wanted to set up a LVM so i need the alt cds
[04:49] <Biovore> kloplop321: you can.. just have to specify multipule pointers in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:50] <kloplop321> Biovore: that is what I have done, but it has had no effect
[04:50] <killermach> hmm.. I have a new install and I'm on konversation with you but all urls even IP address fail in konqueror .. hmm
[04:51] <kloplop321> well that kinda stinks, have you tried installing firefox via terminal?
[04:52] <killermach> route works, dig works, just no konqueror http:// urls
[04:52] <killermach> kloplop321: still doing updates.. then I'll install firefox
[04:53] <kloplop321> ok
[04:53] <killermach> but I hoped to google for xinerama and ATI radeon mobility while d/l updates
[04:53] <kloplop321> so that is why you were unable to help me find a thing on my problem
[04:55] <killermach> be right back
[04:55] <kloplop321> I'll try an alternative to the confiureation
[04:56] <killermach> kloplop321:  yep.. I can't google ;)
[04:57] <killermach> ok.. updates complete.. lemme rbooot
[04:57] <killermach> brb
[04:57] <kloplop321> I am back
[05:10] <killermach> ok.. back
[05:10] <kloplop321> I've been searching a bit, but no luck yet
[05:12] <killermach> my konqueror is still borked.. but adept-updater shows still a konqueror update and others.. when done I'll install firefox
[05:12] <killermach> and oddly your no mount really sounds like physical issue.. drive, puter, cdrom or combination of those
[05:13] <killermach> I've installed on many architectures and never ran across that
[05:13] <mneptok> killermach: a dist-upgrade should pull the packages held back
[05:13] <kloplop321> my friend has, but only on an old laptop that hates CD-RW's
[05:13] <killermach> mneptok: I'm running fiesty.. is there a newer dist?
[05:14] <killermach> kloplop321: again w/ the physical hardware CDRW
[05:14] <mneptok> killermach: that's not what dist-upgrade does
[05:14] <kloplop321> not that I know of, is there a beta
[05:14] <kloplop321> I am not the one with the CD issue
[05:14] <Tm_T> !gutsy
[05:14] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <killermach> kloplop321: sheesh.. I'm lost tonight
[05:15] <mneptok> killermach: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <kloplop321> I am the one trying to use 2 different mice(as in 2 different pointers)
[05:15] <killermach> kloplop321: yep.. I remember.. just not paying attention to few enough things at a time :)
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> seems like an odd idea
[05:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you're ambidextrous?
[05:16] <Hacker> hi
[05:16] <kloplop321> no, just for when friends come over
[05:17] <kloplop321> but it would be awsome If I was and had 2 mice =D
[05:17] <Biovore> well I know you can have 1 point and multipule pointer devices controling the pointer..
[05:17] <Biovore> I have that on my laptop
[05:17] <Biovore> but 2 mouse pointers..  Not sure on that..
[05:18] <Biovore> Thats a Xorg level problem..
[05:18] <kloplop321> yeah I know, in my case I got two things controlling the same pointer, but I wish them to be seperate
[05:18] <kloplop321> its right here http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Nav_Buttons#Multiple_Mice_Support but it doesn't work for me
[05:18] <Hacker> init ctcp ping 0x00 foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo foo
[05:19] <Biovore> kloplop321: google on ZVTM
[05:20] <Hacker> init ctcp ping 0x00
[05:20] <Hacker> init ctcp ping 0x00
[05:20] <kloplop321> Zoomable User Interface?? that's not what I am trying..
[05:20] <Hacker> init ctcp ping 0x00
[05:20] <Biovore> kloplop321: well its more then that..
[05:20] <Jucato> Hacker: stop that
[05:20] <Biovore> Hacker: stop that
[05:20] <Hacker> init ctcp ping 0x00
[05:21] <Jucato> oh yay netsplit...
[05:21] <Biovore> hmm intressting
[05:21] <kloplop321> what's going on?
[05:21] <kloplop321> well, this is cool.
[05:21] <Biovore> one of freenode's server when down
[05:21] <Jucato> kloplop321: netsplit
[05:21] <Jucato> *again*
[05:22] <Biovore> yup
[05:22] <nixternal> no, idiots in #ubuntu
[05:22] <n8k99> must have been that Hacker attack
[05:22] <Biovore> maybe..
[05:22] <nixternal> heh
[05:22] <Biovore> didn't effect here..
[05:22] <kloplop321> does this mean it will happen to me to or what? nothing is happening here
[05:22] <Jucato> I banned him!! maybe it caused the split!! ooooh noes!
[05:22] <Jucato> !netsplit | kloplop321
[05:22] <ubotu> kloplop321: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:22] <Biovore> lol
[05:22] <kloplop321> he broke the laws of physics!
[05:23] <kloplop321> so, this effected other channels right?
[05:23] <nixternal> yes
[05:23] <Biovore> yup.. hole server
[05:23] <kloplop321> big server lol
[05:24] <nixternal> the people you seen leave, were also in the #ubuntu channel
[05:24] <n8k99> Don't Panic
[05:24] <Jucato> hahah
[05:24] <killermach> firefox works... konqueror still broke.. hmm
[05:24] <killermach> no matter
[05:24] <killermach> this is a temp install to a 10GBdrive
[05:24] <kloplop321> lol, Konqueror has bad CSS style recognition
[05:24] <nixternal> !register
[05:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[05:25] <kloplop321> !egg
[05:25] <nixternal> ^^ everyone who isn't registered, might be a good time to do so...cuz if the bots try this place, you won't be talking for a bit :)
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about egg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <kloplop321> !Canablized_hobos
[05:25] <nixternal> !botabuse
[05:25] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:26] <kloplop321> lol
[05:26] <Jucato> *very* angry ops
[05:26] <Biovore> rgr that
[05:26] <nixternal> *very* *very* angry ops :)
[05:26] <kloplop321> I only said canablized hobos lol
[05:26] <nixternal> I was in the military, so I always feel that if 1 messes up, everyone pays :p
[05:27] <kloplop321> I don't see what ZVTM has to do with having multiple cursors controlled by seperate mice
[05:27] <Biovore> kloplop321: google on MPX
[05:28] <Biovore> looks like its an experimental method for getting multipule pointers
[05:28] <kloplop321> yah I saw the link on bottom
[05:29] <Zombine> Hey!  Funny Story.  The Flash player installer for 64-bit Linux doesn't run on 64-bit archetecture
[05:29] <Zombine> Imagine that right?
[05:29] <kloplop321> will MPX interfere or remove any qualities Xorg has? Yeah I know, there is a petiton against Adobe about that
[05:30] <Tm_T> Zombine: what?
[05:30] <Biovore> Zombine: sounds like a adobe job.. :-P
[05:30] <Zombine> lol
[05:30] <Biovore> there is a reason they don't make there own installer for windows and mac..
[05:30] <Zombine> They are retarded?
[05:31] <Zombine> ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[05:31] <Zombine>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[05:31] <Zombine> from the x86 download site
[05:31] <Zombine> yeah
[05:31] <Biovore> x86 is not x86_64 though
[05:31] <kloplop321> well MPX seems a bit risky..
[05:31] <Biovore> well its expermiental..
[05:32] <Zombine> Biovore: Maybe it is I that are retarded
[05:32] <kloplop321> true, but I am kinda "iffy" on using experimental stuff
[05:32] <purpleposeidon> So if I want to update from dapper to fiesty, do I just replace all the dapper drakes in source.list with fiesty fawns?
[05:32] <Jucato> purpleposeidon: dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[05:32] <rrbiz> any recommendation on a good KDE audio recorder for ogg ?
[05:32] <purpleposeidon> Do edgy first? :D
[05:32] <Jucato> yep
[05:33] <Biovore> kloplop321: Here is a pic of someone with 18 points on a desktop.. kinda insane.. http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/?q=node/21
[05:33] <kloplop321> yeah I saw the link , but I'll check it out
[05:34] <kloplop321> lol, its infested
[05:34] <Biovore> rrbiz: record in wave then encode with oggenc
[05:34] <Biovore> there is also rezound..
[05:34] <kloplop321> or mp32ogg
[05:35] <Biovore> eww..  why convert from lossy to lossy.. waste of time..
[05:35] <rrbiz> ahh, so using krec is fine also in this case, then recode ?
[05:35] <Biovore> yeah could do that..
[05:35] <Biovore> rezound or audicity work good as well..
[05:35] <Biovore> they have more advance features..
[05:35] <Zombine> Oh.... No 64-bit support for flash player without 32 bit browsers....
[05:35] <kloplop321> that's why you change the sound encoding settings
[05:36] <Biovore> Zombine: yup that sounds more like it..
[05:36] <Zombine> What am I gonna masturbate to without Newgrounds?!
[05:36] <Biovore> Zombine: have to setup a chroot for all that stuff..
[05:36] <Zombine> Whatchyou talkin' bout Biovore?
[05:37] <Biovore> its on the ubuntu forums somewhere..
[05:37] <Biovore> to get the 32bit flash working on 64bit linux
[05:37] <Zombine> Ah.  I see.  chroot = "change root?"
[05:37] <Zombine> no?
[05:37] <manchicken> Search wiki.ubuntu.com for "flash amd64"
[05:38] <Zombine> Now now, violence is not the answer....
[05:39] <Jucato> but kicking is :)
[05:39] <Zombine> lol
[05:39] <Zombine> eep
[05:39] <nixternal> :)
[05:40] <Zombine> >.>
[05:40] <Jucato> ok commercial's over :)
[05:40] <nixternal> I am lost right now....messing around with them silly developers got me all messed up
[05:40] <purpleposeidon> oh boy... "Need to get 1436MB of archives."
[05:40] <Hirvinen> It is. I have already started to form a local OS control militia.
[05:40] <Hirvinen> (Violence is the answer.)
[05:40] <Tm_T> Hirvinen: militia?!
[05:40] <kloplop321> lol, why  about 1.5 gigs of archives?
[05:40] <Biovore> nixternal: what developers?
[05:41] <Tm_T> Biovore: not us!
[05:41] <Biovore> lol
[05:41] <Zombine> purpleposeidon: Just talk to us and it'll be over soon.... Well that's a lie, but you can at least pretend...
[05:41] <purpleposeidon> So.
[05:41] <purpleposeidon> How's your day been?
[05:41] <nixternal> Biovore: people like Jucato
[05:41] <Tm_T> Jucato: over the hills too?
[05:41] <Biovore> thats all right.. I blame crimson for sound mess ups :-P  easy target
[05:41] <Jucato> climbed every mountain
[05:42] <Zombine> Well I didn't have to wait for 1.5GB of stuff to download.   I'm sure it could improve, but....
[05:42] <Zombine> It's part of the gun tho :D
[05:42] <Zombine> er... *fun
[05:42] <purpleposeidon> ha ha, only loosers have to restart X. :P
[05:42] <Zombine> purpleposeidon: :*(
[05:42] <Zombine> yeah...
[05:42] <purpleposeidon> *REAL* men crash canonical's servers by upgrading 2 distros
[05:43] <kloplop321> removing a tong of old stuff
[05:43] <stuq> hi all
[05:43] <Biovore> lol
[05:43] <Zombine> purpleposeidon: I really don't know what most of that means...
[05:43] <stuq> is anyone else having problems with strigi on gutsy?
[05:43] <Zombine> hi stuq!
[05:43] <stuq> hi Zombine
[05:43] <purpleposeidon> well, not 2 distros. 2 releases, I guess...
[05:43] <kloplop321> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? t
[05:43] <kloplop321> E: Some packages could not be authenticated
[05:43] <kloplop321> woops lol
[05:43] <purpleposeidon> kloplop321: try y
[05:43] <kloplop321> yah I know
[05:44] <stuq> strigidaemon is taking my lapper's cpu up to 99% all the time
[05:44] <stuq> i have to kill the process  before the laptop  overheats and dies
[05:44] <kloplop321> well 229 megs to download, I still got homework and school tomarow, bya peopple
[05:44] <kloplop321> people
[05:44] <purpleposeidon> stuq: try sudo apt-get remove strigi
[05:45] <stuq> heh, well yes, that would do it
[05:45] <stuq> i was hoping to get it working..
[05:45] <Zombine> purpleposeidon: But.... that's not all that much is it?  Like 3 Gb tops....
[05:49] <purpleposeidon> Yeah.
[05:49] <purpleposeidon> Well, it did last time I tried it.... :/
[05:49] <purpleposeidon> Mainly because it borked. :P
[05:49] <cesar_> in Spanish help???
[05:49] <purpleposeidon> #kubuntu-es
[05:53] <jeri> hello everyone!
[05:53] <chlorpromazine> hello jeri
[05:53] <jeri> im new in kubuntu dapper drake
[05:54] <chlorpromazine> I'm new as well, except I'm using xubuntu
[05:54] <chlorpromazine> ...and diggin the hell out of it so far
[05:54] <jeri> xubuntu?is there a big dfference compare to kubuntu?
[05:55] <wers> jeri: yes
[05:55] <chlorpromazine> kubuntu uses the KDE
[05:55] <jeri> i really want to install compiz,is it applicable to kde or just gnome only?
[05:56] <jeri> im installing gnome right now
[05:56] <wers> it works on kde and xfce
[05:56] <purpleposeidon> 11% already! Watch mah compeh crash when she configure meh packagers!
[05:56] <jeri> ?!?
[05:57] <Dr_willis> i would have to say. dont mess/worry about compiz at this time.
[05:57] <jeri> can u help me install compiz on dapper?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Its going to be in the gutsy ubuntu release.. if you want to see the wiggly windows.. that will make it much easier. at this time it can be a big hassle under feisty
[05:58] <Dr_willis> and dapper.. egads...
[05:58] <jeri> is gnome like compiz?
[05:59] <purpleposeidon> Dr_willis: : hey, that's what I've been trying to do! :D
[05:59] <jeri> i see,compiz still have many errors? still on test.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> compiz is still in many ways very much a work in progress..
[06:00] <Dr_willis> best to play with it on some live cd.. :) and see the wiggly bits.. then reboot back to your nice stable system
[06:00] <Biovore> well gusty on gnome has it enabled by default..  :-P
[06:03] <ardchoille> Obviously
[06:03] <Biovore> lol
[06:03] <Dr_willis> kubuntu devs have other reasons I hear. :)
[06:03] <purpleposeidon> jeri: There is probably a #kubuntu-LOCALE for you. :-)
[06:03] <jeri> what is that? #kubuntu locale?
[06:03] <Biovore> local ubuntu group
[06:03] <jeri> ah i see
[06:03] <jeri> is that a channel?
[06:04] <jeri> uhm,,im the only one in the channel
[06:04] <Lynoure> hardly
[06:05] <purpleposeidon> I mean, a two-letters-for-your-prefered-language. X|
[06:05] <jeri> can anyone tell me is there a big dffernce between kde and gnome?
[06:05] <Tm_T> jeri: yes, big differences
[06:05] <Tm_T> jeri: try and see
[06:05] <wers> http://www.psychocats.net/essays/kdevsgnome
[06:05] <jeri> like what? is it 3d? im downloading it right now
[06:06] <jeri> hehe cant wait to see
[06:06] <Dr_willis> 3d? Huh
[06:07] <Dr_willis> they are different desktops. different layouts, tools, and features.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <jeri> ah
[06:07] <Tm_T> different philosophy even
[06:07] <jeri> u really r a doctor
[06:07] <Dr_willis> there are live cd's with both  if you want to test them out.
[06:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:07] <Biovore> yeah.. that person dosn't even relize that kubuntu and ubuntu are the same thing really.. except for gui interface..
[06:07] <wers> my Fn+F3 and Fn+F4 volume control keys stopped working.. what can I do?
[06:08] <jeri> im really stupid ive downloaded mndriva metisse and i cant even burn it as an iso so i can boot it in my pc
[06:08] <jeri> i really wnt the 3d desktop
[06:09] <wers> jeri: I was like you nine months ago
[06:09] <wers> ahehehe
[06:09] <jeri> really
[06:09] <wers> jeri: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[06:10] <wers> that's a very good resource for you to start with
[06:10] <jeri> it means i will suck 9 more months to come!
[06:10] <wers> no...
[06:10] <flake> hi,  /etc/fstab holds the mount information, what file holds the initial harddrives
[06:10] <Biovore> initial harddrives?
[06:11] <Zombine> Why does it ask for your install CD when you're installing packages?
[06:11] <ardchoille> flake: Are you talking about how the system finds drives on boot?
[06:11] <Biovore> file /etc/mtab contains the list of currently mounted filesytems
[06:11] <jeri> thx it seem to me this site has alot to offer
[06:11] <ardchoille> Zombine: Because you still have the cd sources in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[06:11] <flake> yes
[06:12] <ardchoille> flake: I believe that is the job of the HAL daemon
[06:12] <flake> mtab looks like what i'm looking for
[06:12] <Zombine> ardchoille: How do I change them?
[06:12] <Biovore> flake: mtab is the list of filesystems that are currently mounted
[06:12] <ardchoille> Zombine: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list   <-- comment out the cd sources at the top
[06:12] <Biovore> fstab is a list of avaliable filesystems..
[06:13] <ardchoille> Zombine: Then, when that is dobe, run: sudo apt-get update
[06:13] <jeri> this is my first time to chat in konversation and i appreciate it im glad and happy
[06:13] <Biovore> ardchoille: don't scare beginners with vim :-P
[06:13] <Biovore> they'll spend 4 hours tring to figure out how to quit
[06:13] <ardchoille> Zombine: You can also use: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:13] <Zombine> ardchoille: I see.
[06:13] <ardchoille> Biovore: Good point
[06:14] <Zombine> ardchoille: Alright.  Sounds easy enough.  As long as I use some editor that isn't vim :P
[06:15] <ardchoille> Zombine: vim is a great cli editor.. but you might wanna use kate (a gui) until you're good with vim. And kdesu allows it to run in admin mode.
[06:15] <ardchoille> !kdesu | Zombine
[06:15] <ubotu> Zombine: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:15] <flake> welll when i first boot i only get one harddrive, have to enter a password to access the other hardrives which is fine by me.. i just want to rename the harddrives from disk-1 and disk-2 to something meaningful
[06:16] <flake> which mtab has all the names
[06:16] <Zombine> ardchoille: Ah.  Thanks
[06:17] <crxyem> has anyone delt with this error "module disks & filesystems could not be loaded"
[06:17] <ardchoille> Zombine: If you happen to muck up the sources.list, see !easysource
[06:17] <crxyem> fresh install 7.04
[06:18] <Zombine> ardchoille: Okay.  Thanks
[06:19] <jeri> how long does it take to install gnome dr. willis
[06:20] <LordBacon> Hi
[06:20] <LordBacon> can I upgrade to gutsy from an installed feisty?
[06:20] <Biovore> yup
[06:21] <ardchoille> jeri: iirc, the initial install takes somewhere around 15-20 mins
[06:21] <LordBacon> just change the sources, and use dist-upgrade?
[06:21] <jeri> ah,imean the downloading bcause its wat im doing ryt now,in the terminal window
[06:21] <ardchoille> LordBacon: Many folks say that is not recommended and can cause problems.
[06:22] <LordBacon> well, it's a fresh machine, the worst that happens is I burn a proper dvd tomorrow at work
[06:22] <ardchoille> jeri: That would depend on your dl speed and the server load
[06:22] <ardchoille> LordBacon: You can try it.
[06:22] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[06:22] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:23] <ardchoille> LordBacon: I have a command you can run to change your sources
[06:24] <LordBacon> I can use sed :)
[06:24] <ardchoille> ok
[06:24] <LordBacon> long ago in a land far far away I was the maintainer of mozilla for debian
[06:24] <ardchoille> That's what I was going to suggest anyway
[06:25] <ardchoille> sudo sed -i.backup 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <LordBacon> perl -pi -e 's/feisty/gutsy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:26] <ardchoille> :)
[06:26] <denny> tes
[06:26] <LordBacon> I aint no run-of-the-mill newb
[06:26] <ardchoille> hehe
[06:26] <LordBacon> I'm a newb with 12 years experience
[06:27] <LordBacon> I wish networkmanager didn't suck
[06:27] <LordBacon> knetworkmanager shows my wireless card, it shows networks, but when I pick one it never configures it
[06:27] <flake> can I change my harddrive names
[06:27] <LordBacon> if I close knm, and run dhclient ra1 myself, it works fine
[06:28] <ardchoille> LordBacon: ralink?
[06:28] <Lynoure> LordBacon: what's in your /etc/network/interfaces? (having an almost empty one seems to help with that kind of nm trouble, often)
[06:28] <LordBacon> ardchoille: yes
[06:29] <ardchoille> flake: Hard drive names? What are they in fstab?
[06:29] <flake> DRV2_VOL1
[06:29] <flake> in mtab they are  disk,  disk-1 and disk-2
[06:29] <Biovore> I tihnk that has something to do with the volume ID
[06:30] <ardchoille> Thought so
[06:30] <ardchoille> flake: Are you wanting to change that on the desktop icons?
[06:30] <flake> bunch of kde updates coming through
[06:30] <as2000> Can someone tell me how to get the default windows decorations back in Feisty?
[06:30] <flake> yes and the file system if it's possible
[06:31] <coreymon77> night all
[06:31] <ardchoille> nn coreymon77
[06:31] <ardchoille> flake: Can't you just right click the icons and change the name?
[06:31] <flake> it's grayed out
[06:31] <ardchoille> oh
[06:32] <ardchoille> as2000: You still using kwin, or did you try using beryl or something
[06:33] <as2000> ardchoille I think kwin, if that is the default
[06:33] <Dr_willis> i belive part of the issus is the 'default theme' is not saved to a specific file under feisty.
[06:33] <ardchoille> as2000: Ok, run kcontrol, go to Appearances & Themes > Window Decorations and make your choice.
[06:33] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: yeah
[06:33] <Dr_willis> a theme is compozed of carious parts. :)  i dont know what the default window decor is. I perfer 'plastik' myself
[06:34] <as2000> was playing with it and lost the default look that came with feisty
[06:34] <Dr_willis> somthing i always do is go to the theme manager and save the initial theme as 'Kubuntu Default'
[06:34] <ardchoille> as2000: I believe the default win deco theme is Crystal
[06:35] <Dr_willis> i dont care for OS-X wannabes.. :) dont care for OS-X either
[06:35] <ardchoille> I just like the look
[06:35] <Dr_willis> i like the baghria widget look.
[06:35] <ardchoille> Yeah
[06:35] <Dr_willis> but not the window decor. thats whats so nice about how the thmes under kde work. :0
[06:35] <ardchoille> Indeed
[06:37] <Dr_willis> its just hard to explain this is how it works under kde to The various linux beginners. :)
[06:37] <as2000> thanks, getting it somewhat back
[06:37] <LordBacon> I had to explain what KDE/GNOME were to a Windows guy today in windows terms
[06:38] <ardchoille> as2000: You can go back to the "Style" section and get that back too
[06:38] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Nice idea about saving the default theme in theme manager
[06:40] <sash__> zobber
[06:40] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  yes - there really should be one allready there called kubuntu human, or somthing I feel.. but then again. i HATE the default theme. :)
[06:40] <ardchoille> same
[06:41] <Dr_willis> i always install that kde-setting wizard also.  and select plastik :)
[06:41] <Dr_willis> oh the themes in the past.. what was once so popular . is now old-hat. :0
[06:41] <Zombine> Well thanks for the help all.  Now back to 32 bit Firefox, but my flash is working :D
[06:41] <jeri> if i install gnome does it mean i dont have problems playing or burning mp3s to audio cd? any one?
[06:41] <Dr_willis> I rember when.. err.. what was it.. was the 'defacto theme' :) heh  ximian had some for a while, then they fade out..
[06:42] <Dr_willis> jeri,  your logic is a bit.. illoigical.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gnome is just a set of apps/desktop. It includes tools to do that.  as does kde.
[06:42] <ardchoille> jeri: I have no problems playing and burning mp3 files in kubuntu
[06:42] <jeri> ?!? wat do you mean doc?
[06:42] <sash_69> A bit? Lots illogical..
[06:42] <Zombine> jeri: Linux doesn't come with the ability to play mp3s, but you can download it
[06:42] <Dr_willis> gnome itself has nothign to do with 'problems'   of that kind.
[06:42] <jeri> well,my kubuntu dont support mp3s
[06:43] <stdin> it will if you install mp3 support
[06:43] <Zombine> sudo apt-get install xine-engine
[06:43] <Dr_willis> it dosent HAVE the mp3 codecs/neither does ubuntu by default
[06:43] <ardchoille> jeri: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:43] <jeri> i cant play or burn mp3s
[06:43] <Dr_willis> for legal reasons.. install the right packages.. and you can.
[06:43] <sash_69>
[06:43] <ardchoille> !mp3 | jeri
[06:43] <ubotu> jeri: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:43] <Zombine> Listen to ardchoille.  He/she knows more than I
[06:43] <ardchoille> jeri: Awesome links there
[06:44] <stdin> jeri: to play install "libxine1-ffmpeg" to burn install "libk3b2-mp3"
[06:44] <stdin> sash_69: #ubuntu-ru for Russian
[06:44] <jeri> wow thnk u very much!
[06:45] <Zombine> Anyway, I'm not as helpful as I wish I was, so I'm gonna go to bed.  purpleposeidon, don't let small children touch the power button :D
[06:46] <purpleposeidon> kay then.... :/
[06:47] <jeri> now where can i find packages for  libk3b2-mp3?
[06:47] <stdin> it's in the universe repository, Adept should have it listed
[06:48] <jeri> universe rpository? i suck im really at this
[06:48] <jeri> i suck,im really new at this
[06:48] <ardchoille> jeri: Once you have enabled some repos, you can use "apt-cache search appname" (to see if it's in the repos) and "apt-cache policy appname" (to see if it's installed or which repo it's in)
[06:49] <Jucato> jeri: if you are on Kubuntu Feisty, it should just right be there in Adept Manager for you to install
[06:49] <stdin> Adept is in  KMenu > System > Adept Manager
[06:49] <Jucato> Add/Remove Programs would be useful only if...
[06:50] <jeri> i use dapper drake
[06:50] <Jucato> ooh you need to enable Universe
[06:50] <Jucato> !repositories | jeri
[06:50] <ubotu> jeri: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:51] <jeri> i really really nid to read more
[06:54] <cristiano> hi
[06:55] <cristiano> hi
[06:55] <cristiano> hi
[06:55] <cristiano> hi
[06:55] <stdin> stop that
[06:55] <LordBacon> my system is soooo quiet
[07:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:04] <Dr_willis> now it squeeks
[07:04] <ardchoille> hahaha
[07:05] <LordBacon> !kde4
[07:05] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[07:09] <Dr_willis> ;0 Heck with 4 !
[07:09] <intelikey> for the life of me,   i will never understand librarry packages, and why we need them     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/39738
[07:09] <drarem> plasma, huh...
[07:09] <drarem> are there any screenshots
[07:09] <Dr_willis> proberly :)
[07:10] <LordBacon> yes, and they are gorgeous
[07:11] <gustavo> is there someone that has an account on demonoid, and wants to give me a invitation? XD
[07:11] <Dr_willis> Hotter then a habanaro!
[07:11] <WaltzingAlong> gustavo: sure
[07:11] <Dr_willis> demonoids invitation stuff.. is one reason i rarely go there. :)
[07:11] <gustavo> WaltzingAlong: :)
[07:12] <Dr_willis> of course thats what i use the other 'meta-search' sites for.
[07:12] <purpleposeidon> intelikey: four lines, I think. :-)
[07:12] <Dr_willis> i dont even see what  'security.provider.1=gnu.java.security.provider.Gnu' does
[07:12] <intelikey> purpleposeidon what did i miss ?
[07:13] <intelikey> if you mean the blank line    i added that
[07:13] <ardchoille> Does anyone know which file holds the adblock filters for konqeror?
[07:13] <intelikey> Dr_willis exactly.
[07:13] <purpleposeidon> some for $0 in dpkg, or something
[07:13] <gustavo> WaltzingAlong: :-(
[07:14] <intelikey> Dr_willis and why we need another dependancy and lib package just to provide that one address ............
[07:14] <intelikey> and that's not the only   lib* package that has nothing in it.  and yet is depended on ...........
[07:14] <WaltzingAlong> gustavo: what happened?
[07:16] <gustavo> WaltzingAlong: wheres my invitation? :P
[07:17] <WaltzingAlong> gustavo: cannot access the site just now, appears to be down
[07:18] <gustavo> WaltzingAlong: yes, i see :(
[07:19] <intelikey> heh  the internet keeps crashing      lol
[07:19] <gustavo> i think i knwo why ;P
[07:19] <ardchoille> I reached the last page once, lol
[07:20] <intelikey> :)
[07:20] <enjoi1216> kkathman whats kickin
[07:21] <kkathman> nada man wassup
[07:21] <enjoi1216> nuttin
[07:21] <enjoi1216> by the way kkathman  you got a copy ?? lol
[07:22] <kkathman> a copy of what hehe
[07:22] <enjoi1216> thats the way they talk over the cb kkathman
[07:23] <kkathman> yeah I know - I actually used to be  a CB er long ago
[07:23] <kkathman> all those 10 codes
[07:23] <enjoi1216> hey lets go in the off topics room and see what is going on in there it seems like it's dead in here
[07:23] <intelikey> des quatro, des quatro
[07:24] <jza873> question can any one point me in the right direction i cant get ping to work it just sits and lags and i had no luck getting this resolved
[07:24] <enjoi1216> copy ?
[07:25] <Dr_willis> 10-4!
[07:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:25] <intelikey> jza873 sudo ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:25] <enjoi1216> kkathman copy ?
[07:25] <jza873> i can ping the lo
[07:25] <jza873> but nothing else
[07:25] <kkathman> whats yer 20 good buddy?
[07:25] <gore000> is there an easy way to install this on a vanilla ubuntu install
[07:25] <enjoi1216> lets go to the off topic room kkathman
[07:25] <intelikey> jza873 ok it's your dns
[07:26] <intelikey> /etc/resolv.conf
[07:26] <kkathman> heh
[07:26] <intelikey> gore000 sudo apt-get install <this>  ???
[07:27] <jza873> nah my name servers are correct
[07:27] <gore000> well yah
[07:27] <purpleposeidon> por tres, por tres
[07:27] <gore000> or something similar
[07:27] <enjoi1216> kkathman whats the link for off topics chatroom
[07:27] <gore000> I just dont want to start doing things out of nowhere and mess up the whole situation
[07:27] <fulat2k> hi folks, any idea why is kded --new-startup taking 100% of my cpu cycles?  i'm using feisty and it just started happening recently
[07:28] <kkathman> enjoi1216:  #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:28] <ardchoille> !ot
[07:28] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:28] <CVirus> I configured 2 E-mails in contact ... Isn't there anyway to separate them in different inboxes ?
[07:28] <LordBacon> yay, it's installing 2.6.22, now the 16GB thumb drive will work
[07:28] <CVirus> in kmail sorry
[07:28] <jza873> intelikey like i can ping my lo but i cant ping by address or ip i can use every other command but ping
[07:29] <intelikey> jza873 ok firewall
[07:29] <gore000> =[ I want to try kde 4
[07:29] <gore000> boohoo
[07:30] <ardchoille> gore000: kde4 is barely usable
[07:30] <intelikey> jza873 you simply can't blame the app when it "does" work locally.   it has to be a network issue.
[07:30] <jza873>  intelikey no firewall no router direct connect to a new cable modem
[07:31] <intelikey> ping your isp
[07:31] <jza873> cant
[07:31] <jza873> cant ping out at all cept locally
[07:31] <intelikey> maybe blocked there
[07:31] <jza873> when i had a router which i just took off i couldnt even ping that
[07:32] <intelikey> it's network.   and you need a network guru.
[07:32] <jza873> well not much of a network because its just 1 device
[07:33] <jza873>  but imma try to uninstall the ping app and then reinstall it
[07:33] <intelikey> ok.
[07:33] <NightBird> when after playing with the xorg.conf file, and a fail restart of the X server on reboot OS(reboot due to updating kernel), how can I restart the x server so that it's on the F7 screen?
[07:34] <NightBird> er... how do I start the x server so that it's on the F7 screen
[07:34] <intelikey> startx
[07:34] <NightBird> intelikey: yeah, you can do that to get it on the current screen...
[07:34] <CVirus> I configured 2 E-mails in kmail ... Isn't there anyway to separate them in different inboxes ?
[07:35] <intelikey> /etc/init.d/?dm start
[07:35] <intelikey> or restart ^
[07:35] <NightBird> hm... start complained about it already started... but using restart fixed that
[07:36] <intelikey> NightBird correct screen ?      you mean the default tty ?       it will open on the first unused tty
[07:36] <NightBird> ok, well, it's up and working so I'm happy :P
[07:36] <ardchoille> CVirus: You can configure incoming mail into different boxes(folders) in kmail, yes.
[07:37] <intelikey> well actually   startx will open X on the first unused,   ?dm  will open X on the first unused tty above 6
[07:37] <NightBird> ah
[07:37] <NightBird> ok then
[07:37] <intelikey> and the first 6 are noramlly used
[07:37] <CVirus> ardchoille: how can I do that ?
[07:38] <CVirus> ardchoille: found it .. thanks
[07:38] <ardchoille> CVirus: Open kmail, go to Settings > Configure Kmail then go to the Accounts section, hilight an account, click the Modify button on the right. In the General tab, look at the Destination drop down box
[07:38] <intelikey> i've got X running in tty2 as we speak.  but my system is not exactly "default"   i'm also in runlevel 9 atm
[07:39] <CVirus> ardchoille: thanks alot
[07:39] <ardchoille> intelikey: I don't know of many system which stay "default" for too long
[07:39] <ardchoille> CVirus: you're welcome
[07:39] <LordBacon> runlevel 9 seems a bit excessive
[07:39] <CVirus> ardchoille: any way to do it with the sent E-mail ?
[07:39] <ardchoille> CVirus: Let me look..
[07:40] <intelikey> ardchoille well it seems like most people in #ubuntu expect your system to be "totally default" if you want any help...
[07:40] <intelikey> or   #*buntu  for that matter...
[07:40] <ardchoille> CVirus: Yes, go to the Identities section of the options and click Modify, then go to the Advanced tab
[07:41] <ardchoille> CVirus: Sent, Drafts and Templates can all be defined there
[07:42] <intelikey> oh nice kmail has come a long way sense i tried it out,,,,   back in 2002   :)
[07:42] <ardchoille> Indeed it has
[07:43] <intelikey> it was little more that a gui frontend for   /usr/bin/Mail   at that time.
[07:43] <ardchoille> I didn't like it either
[07:43] <CVirus> ardchoille: Thanks again
[07:44] <ardchoille> CVirus: you're welcome
[07:45] <LordBacon> ok, dist-upgrade finished
[07:45] <LordBacon> lets reboot the leenoocks box and see what happens
[07:46] <ardchoille> LordBacon: Good luck
[07:47] <kalorin`> !gimp 2.3
[07:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gimp 2.3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <kalorin`> !gimp
[07:47] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[07:47] <LordBacon> domo arigato mister ubotu
[07:48] <Dr_willis> engrish.com
[07:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:49] <kalorin`> is there a package yet for gimp 2.4?
[07:49] <LordBacon> my system boots too fast!
[07:49] <kalorin`> I know it's beta
[07:49] <intelikey> ? you no will to engrish
[07:49] <kalorin`> but I don't see it listed anywhere in the dpkg -l listings
[07:49] <LordBacon> !find gimp2.4
[07:50] <ubotu> Package/file gimp2.4 does not exist in feisty
[07:50] <stdin> !info gimp
[07:50] <ubotu> gimp: The GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.13-1ubuntu4.3 (feisty), package size 2901 kB, installed size 7920 kB
[07:50] <intelikey> LordBacon add some sleep commands in the upstart   :)
[07:50] <LordBacon> I win
[07:50] <stdin> 2.4-rc1 is in gutsy, but not in feisty
[07:50] <LordBacon> now to check lspci
[07:50] <kalorin`> due out when next month?
[07:51] <stdin> kalorin`: erm, rc2 actually, Gutsy will be out sometime in october
[07:51] <kalorin`> k
[07:51] <kalorin`> thanks
[07:51] <LordBacon> nope, the only added device on lspci is the nv audio
[07:51] <kalorin`> I can pull the .deb file and just install it without any issues though right?
[07:51] <kalorin`> or should be able to
[07:52] <intelikey> it depends on what it depends on
[07:52] <kalorin`> oh I'll wait
[07:52] <LordBacon> but knetworkmanager works now
[07:52] <LordBacon> woo
[07:52] <kalorin`> hrms...
[07:52] <kalorin`> bunch of stuff updated tonight
[07:52] <stdin> kalorin`: doubt it, gimp has a lot of dependencies. you'd end up with some insane mix of feisty and gutsy
[07:52] <intelikey> :)
[07:52] <kalorin`> k thanks
[07:52] <kalorin`> night time
[07:52] <LordBacon> now to install some proprietary nvidia drivers
[07:53] <enjoi1216> kkathman you got a copy
[07:54] <user1> Dudul
[07:55] <level1> hi, whats the name of the alternative to knetworkmanager?  I think its called kwassist or something
[07:55] <level1> its a kde program to configure wireless connections
[07:56] <intelikey> kdewirelessassistant     errr maybe not.
[07:56] <level1> intelikey: theres a program called kwlan who's purpose seems to discretely remove NetworkManager so you can't connect to the internet
[07:57] <level1> kinda annoying
[07:57] <intelikey> wlassistant - User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection
[07:58] <LordBacon> knetworkmanager in gutsy actually works
[07:58] <Dr_willis> 'wireless and user friendly' in the same sentance...
[07:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:58] <intelikey> heh.
[08:00] <intelikey> level1 i just ran i simple search in apt   to find that for you.     (/me teaches how to fish)    apt-cache search ass
[08:00] <intelikey> first thing that poped up.
[08:00] <zero1> hi guys, i got this weird behaviour in my kubuntu recently... i'm on my desktop and i suddenly get logged out.  this has happend since last week.
[08:00] <zero1> i'm not sure if it's an X server restart or what.. . any inputs?
[08:00] <intelikey> might want to filter that.    blah...  | grep kde | less
[08:00] <josue> hola
[08:01] <stdin> !es | josue
[08:01] <ubotu> josue: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:01] <josue> gracias
[08:02] <intelikey> zero1 runaway process ?     fork bomb ?      anything causing the kernel   OOMK  to start killing off processes could do that.
[08:02] <jza873> ok i figured it out
[08:02] <zero1> intelikey: how do i know what's going on, where do i look?
[08:02] <jza873> got ping to work again
[08:03] <intelikey> zero1  top
[08:03] <intelikey> zero1    pstree
[08:03] <jza873> even though i didnt call upon firestarter it stays running even after reboot so it was blocking icmp
[08:03] <zero1> intelikey: are there logs? coz by the time it crashes, i won't be able to see what happend on top
[08:03] <intelikey> zero1         /var/log/Xorg*
[08:04] <zero1> intelikey: hints on what to look for ? :)
[08:04] <zero1> intelikey: i'm not very good at this
[08:04] <intelikey> zero1 might if you run top in a console...     look for  EE  maybe
[08:05] <intelikey> finding what is closing a program   X in this case.   is not always easy.
[08:05] <zero1> ok
[08:06] <intelikey> might even need to do    strace startx  in a console    the cause should be near the end of it's output.
[08:06] <zero1> intelikey: it couldn't be beryl, right? i have had this setup for so long and beryl crashes, but doesn't render X useless or crash it
[08:06] <intelikey> that assumes that you kill ?dm first.
[08:06] <zero1> intelikey: ok.that's a good suggestion
[08:06] <josue> alguein de aqui sabe sobre
[08:06] <josue> pcb wizard
[08:07] <josue> pcb wizard
[08:07] <intelikey> zero1 also   look in   /var/log/"syslog messages and dmesg"
[08:07] <holyguyver> Hi everyone, I was in this room the other day with questions on how to salve my problems with my hardware so that I could run my Ubuntu Linux. Well I found an error, but could one of you guys tell me what it means if I shall you the thing that says it?
[08:08] <zero1> intelikey: i have this on my X log today - (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/wacom
[08:08] <intelikey> when x dies the message "if any" should be at the bottom of the log.
[08:08] <intelikey> zero1 no.  wacom errors as "ubuntu intentional"
[08:08] <zero1> and for other X logs this occurs many times: Xorg.3.log:(EE) intel(0): Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?
[08:08] <holyguyver> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 167
[08:08] <holyguyver>   Major opcode:  145
[08:08] <holyguyver>   Minor opcode:  3
[08:08] <holyguyver>   Resource id:  0x0
[08:08] <holyguyver> Failed to open device
[08:09] <intelikey> zero1 that is to say they set up wacom devices in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file knowing that most people wont have them.  but it makes them "just work" for those that do have them.
[08:09] <holyguyver> Does anyone know what that could mean?
[08:10] <stdin> holyguyver: please use the pastebin when posting large pastes to the channel, link in the topic
[08:10] <stdin> !baddevice | holyguyver
[08:10] <ubotu> holyguyver: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[08:10] <zero1> intelikey: got that. how about that other error on the Video ram being too low?
[08:10] <intelikey> holyguyver yes   wacom    see my posts above to zero1
[08:11] <intelikey> zero1 that will prevent you using a particular rez/depth   thus it will have to stay less than that.
[08:11] <intelikey> zero1 if that's shared ram  you can add some in BIOS if you want.
[08:11] <intelikey> zero1 prolly isn't.
[08:12] <zero1> intelikey: it is.  it's an Intel 945 GM
[08:12] <intelikey> ah well there you go then
[08:12] <intelikey> but that's most likely NOT your cause of crash.
[08:12] <zero1> intelikey: works really fine, out of the box on kubuntu.  even with desktop effects. i haven't had problems with this until now
[08:13] <intelikey> yes some update i suspect.     but finding what is causing it..............  ;/
[08:13] <LordBacon> !medibuntu
[08:13] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:13] <zero1> intelikey: what driver is best for this BTW? 3 weeks ago i changed from i810 to that other one, i think Intel counterpart for this video chip
[08:14] <intelikey> zero1 might check the bug reports for like reports of late.
[08:14] <intelikey> zero1 the 'best' is the one that works for you.
[08:15] <intelikey> as to the bug reports,  it could be something know and a fix "might" be in the works...    never know
[08:16] <zero1> intelikey: ok.  i think  i should just go back to the default.  anyway i didn't notice any difference except for on resolution higher that i reallydidn't need
[08:19] <LordBacon> I just added a medibuntu.list to sources.list.d but it's not getting updated when I do apt-get update
[08:19] <LordBacon> is there some trick to get the .d dir parsed?
[08:21] <LordBacon> nevermind it got toasted somehow
[08:30] <holyguyver> Alright guys well that ubotu for baddevice that you guys gave me did not help at all, that page said that the process would not remove the errors & that if I want to do that that I should ask someone in the Kubuntu forum for help, so I ask again, how may I fix that?
[08:33] <holyguyver> I would like an answer soon, because as everyone who was in here the other day knows, I only have about 15 minutes on my ubuntu before it crashes :(
[08:35] <holyguyver> please :'(
[08:36] <stdin> holyguyver: post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf to pastebin
[08:36] <holyguyver> were is pastebin?
[08:36] <stdin> !paste
[08:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:36] <stdin> the link is also in the /topic
[08:37] <werner_> quit
[08:44] <LordBacon> !find libsigc-2.0.so.0
[08:44] <ubotu> File libsigc-2.0.so.0 found in libsigc++-2.0-0c2a, vmware-player
[08:45] <holyguyver> alright here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38617/
[08:46] <holyguyver> I hope that is what you wanted
[08:47] <stdin> holyguyver: ok, press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"   then replace what's there with this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38618/   save and restart X. the errors should then be gone
[08:49] <LordBacon> I win
[08:49] <LordBacon> I have opera and skype working on kubuntu gutsy on amd64
[08:50] <kkathman> rofl
[08:50] <kkathman> good job LordBacon  :)
[08:51] <stdin> opera and skype? you like the closed source apps I see :p
[08:51] <LordBacon> I like to keep some browsing separate from my normal stuff
[08:51] <LordBacon> and my gf uses skype
[08:51] <LordBacon> she's in new york right now
[08:52] <stdin> whatever floats your boat :p  your computer, your rules
[08:52] <wx> lskdjf
[08:52] <stdin> wx: lskdjf to you too
[08:52] <LordBacon> I really wish I could use VS 2008 on linux though
[08:52] <wx> good  afternoon
[08:52] <LordBacon> I may try it and office in vista in a vm now that I have a decent system though
[08:52] <LordBacon> or I could use them on the office laptop
[08:53] <wx> what are you doing
[08:53] <wx> stdin who is
[08:54] <wx> exit
[08:54] <stdin> hmmmk
[08:54] <holyguyver> how do I restart X?
[08:54] <LordBacon> log out of X, hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:54] <stdin> or logout and choose "Restart X server" from the menu
[08:54] <Neil3> or just do ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:54] <stdin> bad ^
[08:55] <Neil3> it will nuke your session though :/
[08:55] <LordBacon> that's why I said to log out first
[08:55] <LordBacon> now, should I go for the compiz lovin?
[08:55] <Neil3> mclovin?
[08:55] <Neil3> :D
[08:55] <LordBacon> with bacon!
[08:55] <holyguyver> in the logout there is no option to restart x
[08:56] <LordBacon> it's on the login screen, after you logout
[08:56] <Neil3> hm, beryl with aquamarine worked well i seem to remember
[08:56] <holyguyver> where?
[08:56] <stdin> in the menu after you logout
[08:56] <Neil3> the login screen, holyguyver
[08:56] <holyguyver> what menu after I log out?
[08:57] <holyguyver> where on the login screen?
[08:57] <Neil3> to the left of the box with the user name and password fields
[08:57] <Neil3> click that menu like icon
[08:57] <holyguyver> O alright :) thanks
[08:57] <Neil3> np :)
[09:06] <evil-rhino> how do i launch an X app from the terminal so that it doesn't terminate when the terminal session is?
[09:06] <stdin> evil-rhino: put a '&' after the command
[09:07] <gustavo> have someone ever run a mysql server chrooted? im having getting this error: /usr/local/mysql/libexec/mysqld: File './mysql-bin.index' not found (Errcode: 13)
[09:08] <twylight> anyone here?
[09:11] <holyguyver> Alright I am back :)
[09:11] <holyguyver> So what problems was that error causing?
[09:12] <stdin> none
[09:12] <holyguyver> well then I have a bigger problem on my hands then :(
[09:12] <twylight> is there a command that will cause zlib to be downloaded?
[09:13] <twylight> because for some reason unknown to me, I don't have zlib
[09:13] <holyguyver> stdin was your in the room about 5 days ago when I originally appeared in here?
[09:13] <stdin> twylight: "sudo apt-get install zlib1g"  but it really should be installed already
[09:13] <twylight> thanks
[09:14] <stdin> holyguyver: possibly
[09:14] <twylight> yeah, it is installed
[09:14] <twylight> strange
[09:15] <holyguyver> If so then you know that I have been trying to switch to linux for the past 3 years since I bought this computer, but some error somewhere is causing it to after around 10  to 15 minutes of running, even if I am not running any programs to slow down so slow that it takes about 25 minutes to open a program.
[09:15] <twylight> trying to compile c code and it's not working, saying I don't have zlib
[09:16] <stdin> twylight: that's because you need the -dev packages for compiling, should be installed with build-essential
[09:16] <holyguyver> it does this slow down thing even if the OS is DamnSmallLinux
[09:16] <twylight> thanks
[09:16] <twylight> thanks
[09:17] <twylight> I'm trying to compile freeciv to put up on my website so I can run it via shell access
[09:17] <twylight> if that will work at all
[09:17] <stdin> holyguyver: I've never experienced that on any system, so I have no clue why it would do that
[09:17] <twylight> it's an experiment
[09:17] <holyguyver> I only have 125MB RAM, but still then DamnSmall, Puppy, or Slax should work fine, & they don't :(
[09:18] <stdin> twylight: isn't that already in the repos?
[09:18] <twylight> hmm?
[09:18] <stdin> !info freeciv-server
[09:18] <ubotu> freeciv-server: Civilization turn based strategy game (server files). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (feisty), package size 416 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[09:18] <stdin> yep, it's there
[09:18] <twylight> yeah, but I don't have root access to the server I'm trying to install it on
[09:19] <twylight> I can't apt-get it on there
[09:19] <holyguyver> & we have already checked & there is no upgrade avaluble for my BIOS.
[09:20] <stdin> twylight: how can you be sure the dependencies of freeciv are going to be installed on the server? or that it's even the same architecture (or OS) as you're running?
[09:20] <twylight> I've asked the person that owns the server
[09:21] <twylight> it's debian based
[09:21] <twylight> so I know it's compatible with what I'm trying to run
[09:21] <stdin> twylight: and it has the same versions of all the libs you have?
[09:21] <twylight> and I'm still getting the zlib error after installing build-essentials
[09:21] <twylight> stdin: so I've been told
[09:22] <stdin> twylight: not likely I have to say, it's best to compile it on the server itself   the version of debian it's running is probably "stable" so the libs will certainly be older
[09:22] <holyguyver> Well, I am hoping that you was wrong & that indeed that error was causing that problem & that now it is fixed :D
[09:23] <twylight> so upload the source code and compile it there
[09:23] <twylight> right
[09:23] <twylight> thanks
[09:23] <twylight> you guys are always helpful
[09:23] <stdin> twylight: we try :)
[09:23] <twylight> even when I'm doing something stupid that I'm oblivious to
[09:24] <niels_> ubotu: !adeptfix
[09:24] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:24] <holyguyver> so stdin what do you think are the chances that that error was causing that problem of mine?
[09:24] <twylight> basically
[09:25] <twylight> my website is hosted on another site
[09:25] <twylight> but I have a domiain name
[09:25] <stdin> holyguyver: not high, that "error" basically does nothing. it's more a warning than an error
[09:25] <twylight> this is all irrelevant
[09:25] <holyguyver> what is it warning me of?
[09:25] <twylight> I have shell access to that server
[09:25] <twylight> and FTP access to my website's directory
[09:26] <twylight> so I put the source code in my website's directory
[09:26] <twylight> compile it there
[09:26] <stdin> twylight: if it was hosted on your system you could just apt-get it, so I already figured it was on another server
[09:26] <twylight> and run it from here and see if it works
[09:26] <twylight> this is just a test to see if I can run programs that are on that server
[09:26] <holyguyver> !warning
[09:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warning - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:26] <twylight> trying with freeciv because I've been playing that game since 1.4.1
[09:27] <twylight> right, starting to upload the source now
[09:28] <holyguyver> stdin if it is morte of a warning, what is it warning me of?
[09:28] <emilsedgh> anyone knows a good rts game in the form of AgeOfEmpires? thats the only thing that i really miss...
[09:28] <twylight> uploadint 1455 files
[09:28] <stdin> holyguyver: that you don't have a wacom tablet device connected
[09:29] <holyguyver> emilsedgh: I know of one
[09:29] <emilsedgh> holyguyver: really?! tell me...
[09:29] <twylight> emil: you could buy transgaming cedega and play the actual age of empires
[09:29] <twylight> holy: I'd also like to know of this game
[09:30] <emilsedgh> twylight: no, i really dont want to run non-freesoftware, the wifi driver is enough :)
[09:30] <stdin> there is stratagus (package stratagus-gl)  it's like WarCraft II
[09:30] <holyguyver> Well a friend of mine gave me the link to it & I d/led it, but I can't remember the link & I can only somewhat remember the name & it is multiplatform & I have the windows version on that computer of mine, so I can't tell you saidly, but it's name was something like Wasnoth or something like that.
[09:30] <twylight> battle for wesnoth
[09:31] <twylight> that's turn based
[09:31] <emilsedgh> no, Wesnoth is not RTS, thats Turn-Based :( I know a few RTS games but none of them is really good
[09:31] <twylight> and not really like AOE at all
[09:31] <twylight> your best bet would be to invest in cedega
[09:32] <twylight> it's an emulator for windows ( kind of ) that allows the use of windows games
[09:32] <twylight> I'm not 100% sure how it works
[09:32] <twylight> but I know it works
[09:32] <holyguyver> why not use WINE?
[09:32] <jussi01> !wine
[09:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:32] <jussi01> wine is not bad either
[09:32] <emilsedgh> twylight: I think wine can run AOE, but i want to use a Free Game
[09:32] <jussi01> !games
[09:32] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[09:32] <twylight> wine isn't that reliable
[09:33] <jussi01> twylight: how so?
[09:33] <twylight> emil: go to sourceforge, look in real time strategy games, hopefully find something you like that's in alpha or beta stage
[09:34] <twylight> jussi: it can be unstable and not fully supportive of some windows applications
[09:34] <holyguyver> only if you configure it badly
[09:34] <twylight> !crossover
[09:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crossover - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:34] <jussi01> twylight: I understand it doenst support some stuff, but unstable??
[09:35] <twylight> some applications I have run using it have crashed for no reason
[09:35] <jussi01> http://www.codeweavers.com/
[09:35] <twylight> *cough alpha centauri*
[09:35] <holyguyver> from my understanding if configured currectly it is very styable & can support lots of stuff.
[09:35] <jussi01> holyguyver: thats correct
[09:35] <twylight> well I must be doing something wrong
[09:36] <jussi01> twylight: sounds that way. however you are right, to a point. cedega supports more games
[09:36] <twylight> but it costs money
[09:36] <jussi01> twylight: the outlay is minimal, and it saves a lot of time and hassle
[09:36] <twylight> and I switched to linux because of it's functionality and the wide availibility of free software to do what I want
[09:37] <holyguyver> & wine is one of thos freesoftware that can do what you want :p
[09:37] <twylight> at any rate, emil, your best bet is to troll sourceforge for something meeting your requirements
[09:38] <twylight> maybe you'll find something, maybe you won't
[09:38] <twylight> but it's almost certainly where you'll find something if it's there
[09:38] <twylight> wow that was redundant
[09:39] <holyguyver> well stdin so far I have been on a long time & nothing has slowed down so I am hoping it worked :D
[09:39] <emilsedgh> twylight: i did
[09:39] <emilsedgh> twylight: the best one i found is glob2, which is really fun, but im tired of playing it
[09:39] <twylight> not much more I can say
[09:39] <holyguyver> twylight you are female?
[09:40] <twylight> I am indeed
[09:40] <emilsedgh> holyguyver: and please say 'emilsedgh' to highlit me, use Tab for autocompletion :)
[09:40] <holyguyver> amazing a female linux user I am impressed :)
[09:40] <twylight> however I refuse to show pictures of myself or divulge information regarding my location
[09:40] <zeicron> Hello.
[09:40] <holyguyver> I wasn't asking :p
[09:41] <zeicron> How's everybody doing tonight?
[09:41] <twylight> not bad, you?
[09:41] <holyguyver> I was simply saying I am impressed to know of a woman that uses linux :p
[09:41] <zeicron> Err, not too good, actually.
[09:41] <zeicron> my x1950pro is giving me a hard time.
[09:41] <zeicron> Can't find the right drivers.
[09:42] <stdin> holyguyver: many women do, infact one of the core devs is a female
[09:42] <LordBacon> of course not, you're on irc
[09:42] <holyguyver> That is fantastic news stdin :)
[09:43] <twylight> ok
[09:43] <twylight> what's the shell command to unzip a .gz file?
[09:43] <LordBacon> gunzip file
[09:43] <twylight> thanks
[09:43] <twylight> I've been kde spoiled
[09:44] <stdin> twylight: depends, .gz is "gunzip file", tar.gz is "tar xzf file"
[09:44] <twylight> tar.gz
[09:44] <stdin> then tar is what you want
[09:44] <twylight> thanks
[09:44] <twylight> :)
[09:44] <holyguyver> It is just I love to hear of girls who use FLOSS because some women I know are too stupid to stop using propiatary software *Cough girlfriend refuses to use firefox in favor of IE Cough*
[09:45] <zeicron> How can I enable "restricted" Repository?
[09:45] <stdin> zeicron: KMenu > System > Adept Manager    File -> Manage Repositories
[09:45] <zeicron> Thank you.
[09:46] <holyguyver> I have installed fx on her PC 3 times, & the second I leave she uninstalls it
[09:46] <JimmyDee> !ati
[09:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <twylight> it's because micro$oft has tricked the common user into thinking anything but proprietary software is bad for their computers
[09:47] <stdin> offtopic chat  #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <zeicron> Urgh
[09:48] <zeicron> I wish there was some sort of "remote assistance".
[09:48] <zeicron> I'm having a really hard time installing my video card drivers :(
[09:48] <twylight> isn't there a remote desktop feature of kubuntu?
[09:49] <JimmyDee> zeicron what kinda card you have?
[09:49] <holyguyver> yes there is
[09:49] <twylight> Krdc
[09:49] <zeicron> x1950pro is what i have.
[09:49] <zeicron> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide#Enable_.22restricted.22_Repository
[09:49] <twylight> !krdc
[09:49] <zeicron> Is what I should be following.
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krdc - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <twylight> O.o
[09:49] <zeicron> although I'm lost
[09:49] <JimmyDee> ati..tryed envy?
[09:49] <holyguyver> !remote
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <stdin> twylight: you have looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[09:49] <JimmyDee> !anything
[09:49] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[09:49] <stdin> !envy | don't use it
[09:49] <ubotu> don't use it: envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:50] <JimmyDee> well crud
[09:50] <JimmyDee> worked for me
[09:50] <zeicron> You've lost me there.
[09:50] <twylight> !nothing
[09:50] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting. Please be as specific as possible: if you see a black screen, say so, if you see a shell prompt, say so, if you see an !error message, say so - Also, most !CLI commands don't print anything when they succeed, but only when they fail.
[09:50] <zeicron> !i hate life :(
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i hate life :( - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <twylight> actually
[09:50] <stdin> !works for me | JimmyDee
[09:50] <ubotu> JimmyDee: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:50] <JimmyDee> I defer to stdin
[09:50] <zeicron> I have no idea what I'm doing :(
[09:50] <twylight> I wonder how many interesting things ubotu says
[09:51] <twylight> like !sex what does that do
[09:51] <stdin> see http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi and find out
[09:51] <stdin> bot abuse get's you a kick, so be warned :)
[09:51] <berkes> has anyone got a good way to open a vnc server on an *existing* kde session, over ssh/cli?
[09:52] <holyguyver> sex does nothing ubotu doesn't know about sex
[09:52] <zeicron> !envy
[09:52] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[09:52] <berkes> I mean: kde has this fancy wizard, but I cannot access that over KIO, or with the commandline
[09:52] <stdin> !info x11vnc
[09:52] <ubotu> x11vnc: VNC server which uses your current X11 session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-1 (feisty), package size 438 kB, installed size 1104 kB
[09:52] <wayne_1978> Hi folks, is anyone here haveing some time to help a noob with KDE?
[09:52] <holyguyver> however love comes up with something interesting
[09:52] <holyguyver> !love
[09:52] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[09:52] <twylight> haha
[09:52] <zeicron> !windows
[09:52] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[09:52] <stdin> !botabuse
[09:52] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:53] <berkes> stdin: thanks a lot. I am running tightvnc, guess switching is the way to go.
[09:53] <twylight> or your nearest mental health institute, that's great
[09:53] <twylight> !penguins
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about penguins - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <zeicron> !linus
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <zeicron> :O
[09:53] <wayne_1978> ok
[09:53] <twylight> someone needs to add a comment about penguins to ubotu right away XD
[09:53] <stdin> twylight, zeicron: stop the botabuse, /msg ubotu something        instead of spamming the channel
[09:54] <twylight> right, sorry
[09:54] <wayne_1978> so I'm right that nobody's here able helping someone with a small KDE problem
[09:55] <stdin> wayne_1978: helps if you actually ask the question you want to ask
[09:55] <holyguyver> he knows what tx is though twylight
[09:55] <holyguyver> tux
[09:55] <holyguyver> I meant tux
[09:56] <zeicron> Could somebody please help me out with a Wiki tutorial. It would only take a few minutes.
[09:56] <twylight> wayne_1978: we can't answer a question that hasn't been asked
[09:57] <holyguyver> twylight, did you ask ubotu in privet about tux?
[09:57] <twylight> yep
[09:57] <zeicron> Oh well, I guess I'm going to the ubuntu channel for some help. Have a good night.
[09:57] <wayne__1978> if I type 'firefox' in the console it runs...
[09:57] <twylight> right
[09:57] <holyguyver> see it knows tux, knows linux, doesn't know Linus nor Pienguns
[09:58] <twylight> holyguyver: it needs to be updated
[09:58] <twylight> wayne__1978: please continue
[09:58] <stdin> zeicron: same advice to you, helps if you ask the question rather than asking to ask
[09:59] <wayne__1978> twylight: ok - and when I use the KDE editor I can't link firefox with an icon 'cause my firefox runs in /home...
[09:59] <twylight> how did you install firefox?
[10:01] <wayne__1978> twylight: I didn't install firefox. I just unpacked it to /home/Programme because I want to use the update function as user. There wasn't aprevious verison o firefox installed as root.
[10:01] <twylight> ok
[10:01] <twylight> do you have root access?
[10:01] <wayne__1978> if I want, yes
[10:01] <twylight> open up a terminal window
[10:02] <twylight> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:02] <twylight> that should install it to /usr
[10:03] <Smorg> hi all
[10:03] <Smorg> So... I'm trying to install the game Diablo II on wine.
[10:03] <Smorg> And I broke one of the disks :/
[10:03] <Smorg> but have the images
[10:03] <Smorg> but they are in mdf format because i made them using alcohol
[10:03] <Smorg> mount them like iso images?
[10:03] <twylight> yeah, usr/share/firefox
[10:04] <holyguyver> twylight asking ubotu about IE came up with a slightly funny phrase :p
[10:04] <twylight> that's where it should install to
[10:04] <twylight> holyguyver: lol
[10:04] <stdin> Smorg: you have to convert them to ISO format before you can use them
[10:04] <Smorg> !mount
[10:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:04] <Smorg> hrm
[10:05] <stdin> !iso | Smorg
[10:05] <ubotu> Smorg: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[10:05] <Smorg> idk if alcohol can do that
[10:05] <twylight> ugh
[10:05] <twylight> there has to be a better way to do this
[10:05] <twylight> I just got a "could not guess which client to use" error while trying to compile freeciv remotely
[10:05] <twylight> however all the libraries are there
[10:05] <hueterdesgrals_1> wayne__1978 is now hueterdesgrals_1978
[10:06] <stdin> !info mdf2iso | Smorg, use this
[10:06] <ubotu> smorg, use this: mdf2iso: A simple utility to convert mdf to iso / cue / toc images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:06] <Smorg> aah awesome thanks!
[10:06] <hueterdesgrals_1> @twylight: I'm back :-)
[10:06] <twylight> ok
[10:06] <twylight> open a terminal window
[10:06] <hueterdesgrals_1> is open
[10:07] <twylight> sudo apt-get install firefox
[10:07] <twylight> that should install it to /usr/share/firefox
[10:07] <twylight> or you could just use adept
[10:08] <hueterdesgrals_1> hmm, but this means getting an older version, don't it? Can I easily update that firefox version?
[10:08] <twylight> do you really need the absolute latest version?
[10:09] <hueterdesgrals_1> yes, beacause of some xpis
[10:09] <hueterdesgrals_1> my firefox runs at the momen; I only cnan't ceate al link
[10:09] <twylight> doesn't firefox have an auto updater
[10:09] <holyguyver> Hey twylight ask ubotu "How are you ubotu?" :p
[10:09] <stdin> hueterdesgrals_1: seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion  ?
[10:10] <twylight> haha
[10:10] <JimmyDee_> stdin, is it inexorably fubar if you ran envy or the ati manual install, it seems to forget the driver and default to mesa
[10:10] <twylight> this freeciv compile is aggravating me
[10:10] <twylight> it's refusing to work
[10:11] <holyguyver> also asking ubotu "thanks" also is interesting :p
[10:11] <twylight> there must be a better way to do this
[10:11] <stdin> JimmyDee_: if you installed from envy or from the ati site then you need to reinstall it for every kernel and Xorg update, that's why ubuntu provide packages
[10:12] <JimmyDee_> ok youre right there, what of it forgetting the ati driver and defaulting to mesa?
[10:12] <holyguyver> Twylight I found out ubotu's resonce to "Thanks" when it really gave me good info, so I told it thanks :p
[10:12] <stdin> JimmyDee_: I can't say, I've never used ati
[10:13] <twylight> haha
[10:13] <logixoul> Hey. Is there something special I need to do to get DrKonqi backtraces without a 15sec delay?
[10:14] <twylight> !useradd
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about useradd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <twylight> damn
[10:14] <stdin> !man | twylight
[10:14] <ubotu> twylight: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[10:14] <twylight> there has to be a better way
[10:15] <twylight> I used man -k useradd
[10:15] <twylight> it doesn't give any useful info
[10:15] <stdin> helps if you take off the -k
[10:15] <holyguyver> Hey Jucato , remember me? :D
[10:16] <twylight> thanks
[10:16] <Jucato> holyguyver: um... considering how I'm feeling today, um.. nope... sorry..
[10:17] <holyguyver> O alright :p
[10:17] <holyguyver> sorry
[10:17] <Jucato> nah sorry
[10:17] <twylight> my laptop keyboard doesn't have an "end" key
[10:17] <holyguyver> what happened today Jucato?
[10:18] <Jucato> feeling sick
[10:18] <stdin> my laptop keyboard doesn't have an "any" key, been bugging me for years :p
[10:18] <twylight> oh but ctrl+z works
[10:18] <logixoul> twylight: did you look next to scroll lock? :)
[10:18] <Smorg> heh can't do it
[10:18] <Jucato> twylight: it should have one, but usually you have to press another key to make it behave like End
[10:18] <Smorg> sudo mount -o loop /media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Smorg/My Documents/Files/Disk Images/Diablo II/INSTALL.iso /mnt/install
[10:18] <twylight> scroll lock is also my f12 key
[10:18] <Smorg> right?
[10:18] <twylight> we just had a power failure
[10:18] <twylight> again
[10:18] <logixoul> Smorg: you need to escape spaces with \
[10:18] <stdin> Smorg: you mat want to put those paths in quotes
[10:19] <logixoul> ...or that, yes
[10:19] <holyguyver> Jucato Well I am the idiot who was in here about 5 days ago with a linux PC with an error that made it run very slow.
[10:19] <Smorg> after space you need backslash?
[10:19] <twylight> ugh
[10:19] <Jucato> Smorg: before\ like\ this
[10:19] <Smorg> aah ok
[10:19] <twylight> we always get power failures at this time of night
[10:19] <Jucato> "or just do these"
[10:20] <Jucato> holyguyver: oh... were you able to find a fix?
[10:20] <holyguyver> with the power failers comment twylight I was about to ask "wow, where do you live?" but then I remembered that you said you wouldn't tell that :-p
[10:20] <Smorg> you must specify the filesystem type?
[10:20] <spark_> heyho evryone
[10:20] <twylight> I'll tell you this much
[10:20] <Smorg> image is on ntfs
[10:21] <twylight> ontario is crap for power grid stability
[10:21] <Jucato> Smorg: no, because the type is the cd image (ISO)
[10:21] <logixoul> Guys, are there supposed to be -debug counterparts to all packages? Because ktorrent doesn't have one...
[10:21] <Jucato> logixoul: I don't think all have -dbg ones
[10:21] <Smorg> so use -t iso
[10:21] <holyguyver> Jucato I am not sure stdin just helped me fix one error, he doesn't think that error being fixed should have fixed it, but so far I haven't had any problems sance then :D
[10:21] <twylight> and if you run a traceroute on my machine I will be quite irate
[10:21] <logixoul> Jucato: oh, ok thanks. I'll build then
[10:22] <stdin> Smorg: don't think you have to, only when it doesn't recognise it (and it's  -t iso9660)
[10:22] <Jucato> holyguyver: glad to hear
[10:22] <logixoul> heheh
[10:23] <Smorg> agh, ok maybe i messed up the conversion. we'll try again
[10:23] <Smorg> according to some sites mount can recognise mdf
[10:23] <Smorg> tried that too
[10:23] <logixoul> Ok how about "developer changelogs" in adept? People tend not to fill those, eh?
[10:23] <Smorg> ex: http://lindesk.com/2007/05/how-to-mount-isomdf-images-in-linux/
[10:24] <logixoul> hmm, but `aptitude changelog ktorrent` shows stuff
[10:24] <logixoul> so adept is the one broken :)
[10:24] <spark_> hey guys. is there any way to combine my ntfs partition with my ext3 partition, so i got ONE big ext 3 partition?
[10:24] <Jucato> logixoul: it just fetches the changelogs online
[10:24] <stdin> Smorg: that would only work is the mdf was really an iso, most aren't. it uses some proprietary compression
[10:25] <logixoul> Jucato: but in adept the changelog field is empty, is that normal?
[10:25] <Jucato> that I don't know... but I think there were bugs about that
[10:26] <logixoul> k, thanks
[10:27] <logixoul> spark_: Yep. First, put the data from NTFS somewhere safe (e.g. the ext3 partition, if you have enough space there). Then boot into Kubuntu Live and use Qtparted to delete the ntfs partition and enlarge the ext3 partition (may prove a bit tricky)
[10:27] <twylight> ugh
[10:27] <twylight> I need to compile freeciv
[10:27] <twylight> then tarball it
[10:27] <spark_> so i can't use gparted(works under kde too) to expand my booted partition? :(
[10:27] <twylight> then uncompress it
[10:28] <logixoul> spark_: sure you can...
[10:28] <stdin> spark_: you can't work on any partition that's in use (or any partition on a disk that's in use)
[10:28] <tn> hi
[10:29] <tn> do someone know how to change usb keys mounting options ?
[10:29] <spark_> ok thx guys. so i have to use a live cd... ;)
[10:29] <logixoul> stdin: that second part is false I think. I'm pretty sure I've erased hda2 while hda1 was mounted on /
[10:29] <spark_> cya
[10:29] <tn> without modifying fstab, of course :)
[10:29] <stdin> logixoul: that's formatting, not partitioning (which I was on about)
[10:30] <logixoul> stdin: oh, so what exactly is partitioning? *Creating* partitions?
[10:30] <stdin> logixoul: creating, removing or resizing
[10:30] <stdin> anything that needs to modify the MBR
[10:31] <stdin> erm, MBT actually, not MBR
[10:31] <stdin> I think... :p
[10:31] <stdin> the partition table thing
[10:31] <logixoul> Ahaa, I see.
[10:33] <tn> I have some usb keys with vfat on them. I'd like them to be mounted 664 but not 775.
[10:33] <holyguyver> I can't get mplayer to produce the sounds to my soundcard/speak, what is wrong?