[11:56] <tepsipakki> or maybe not
[11:56] <mdz> mvo: well, the issues apply to both unfortunately
[11:57] <mdz> bf: dpkg --force-confmiss
[11:58] <tepsipakki> right
[12:00] <bf> mdz: whee
[12:01] <bf> mdz:  that seems to have worked.  thanks.  i suppose I should update the bug report?
[12:01] <tepsipakki> bf: well, I updated it already
[12:01] <BenC> pitti, dholbach: Ok, built and uploading...should be 5 minutes
[12:01] <dholbach> rock on
[12:01] <pitti> yay
[12:03] <j1mc> i've been away today . . .  will an additional RC candidate image be released tomorrow?
[12:06] <dholbach> BenC: same place? finished uploading?
[12:06] <BenC> almost done
[12:07] <pitti> BenC: can you give me the md5sum, just to be sure? my ISP's transparent proxy is sometimes funny
[12:08] <BenC> 9008b8fe14597a713fd0b8778b3638a8  linux-image-2.6.20-14-generic_2.6.20-14.23_amd64.deb
[12:08] <BenC> same location
[12:08] <pitti> uploaded?
[12:09] <tepsipakki> BenC: .23 worked for me
[12:09] <dholbach> pitti: looks like
[12:09] <dholbach> I have the same md5sum
[12:09] <tepsipakki> the previous one
[12:10] <BenC> tepsipakki: thanks
[12:10] <pitti> yep, md5sum matches
[12:10] <pitti> BenC: is there any way to disable pata at the kernel command line?
[12:10] <pitti> booting live CD and dpkg -i'ing older kernel in a chroot is a bit painful
[12:10] <BenC> pitti: you mean pata in general, or disable libata-pata in favor of ide?
[12:11] <BenC> oh, no, you are just at my mercy for this testing phase :)
[12:11] <pitti> hm, I don't know; having normal IDE drives back would do it, I guess
[12:11] <dholbach> BenC: looks GOOD!
[12:11] <BenC> yay!
[12:11] <dholbach> you ROCK!
[12:12] <BenC> no, I just reverted the patch back to kyle's original
[12:12] <BenC> I such because I broke it :)
[12:12] <BenC> suck


[13:58] <NCommander> asac: AR added
[13:58] <NCommander> ogra: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/likewise-open/+bug/517300
[13:58] <ogra> merci
[13:58]  * ogra hugs NCommander
[13:58] <NCommander> ogra: no patch attached >.<; I think it fell off :-/
[13:58]  * NCommander was sure there was an in-progress patch I put on that bug
[13:58] <ogra> meh, can you do that asap ?
[13:59] <NCommander> ogra: I can try
[13:59] <NCommander> LP is going VERY slow
[13:59] <ogra> just what you have now
[14:01] <NCommander> ogra: attached
[14:01] <NCommander> ogra: sorry about that. I didn't notice the patch failed to stick to the bug until just now
[14:03] <NCommander> asac: ogra: need anything else before I go Mobile only?
[14:03] <persia> This is clearly a call for more sophisticated handsets :)
[14:04] <persia> (well, and more robust ubiquitous networking)
[14:04] <NCommander> persia: my handset making a hotspot to connect my laptop. It can only do so much when all it can see is a GPRS tower
[14:04] <NCommander> (LP over GPRS is PAINFUL)
[14:05] <persia> Right.  Not tethering requires more sophisticated handhelds.  Not having the network break requires more robust ubiquitous networking.  See above.
[14:05] <NCommander> persia: I don't think I would want to run the meeting on any keyboard short of my laptop :-P
[14:06] <NCommander> Ok, now I go poof
[14:06] <persia> Just get a http://www.tekgear.ca/index.cfm?pageID=90&prodid=22&section=99 : some people get up to 60WPM, although I'll admit I only get about 15-20.
[14:07] <NCommander> if anyone needs me ASAP, hit the cell and I'll pop back on
[14:07] <NCommander> else I'll be back ths afternoon


[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1] (kernel)
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1] (kernel)
[07:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1] (kernel)
[07:04] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, is autosync having a sad day?
[07:16] <Ukikie> I believe that debian-archive-keyring needed an update.
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1]
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1]
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-hwe [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [5.0.0-21.22~18.04.1]
[08:26] <LocutusOfBorg> general question: docker.io i386 test started failing because of "lxc launch ubuntu-daily:eoan/i386 docker -c security.nesting=true"
[08:26] <LocutusOfBorg> is that normal? maybe daily i386 builds are not ship anymore? so can we skip such test?
[08:28] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: Talk to stgrabe_r or the LXD team, and find out. If it's dropped, stop running that test on i386 IMHO.
[08:33] <LocutusOfBorg> I think mapreri rbalint or amurray might want to ask ^^ (you all have some packages that are failing that test in -proposed) :)
[08:34]  * Laney sees the work slide off LocutusOfBorg's shoulders
[08:36] <LocutusOfBorg> meh, I'm getting usually blamed for trying to fix other people's uploads :) but I pinged him on -devel, my question here in -release channel wanted to be more general, such as "will we badtest all i386 in the next days, or something similar?"
[08:41] <Laney> I dunno what the i386 plan is with respect to autopkgtest actually
[08:41] <Laney> nobody's talked to me about it
[08:42] <Laney> so carry on for now
[08:42] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe this is not an issue, not sure... we might have a bunch of stuff migrating if we badtest i386
[08:45] <sil2100> Laney: hey! This might be nothing, but I noticed that the pending-sru report hasn't been updated since Saturday - could you log into snakefruit for me and check if all is good with sru-report there?
[08:45] <Laney> sil2100: ok, but I don't know where that's logged
[08:46] <sil2100> Laney: I guess it should be ran via cron? I don't know if the output is logged anywhere, hmm
[08:46] <sil2100> Laney: since sru-report usually just outputs the html webpage to stdout
[08:46] <Laney> we get cron spam in the mailbox
[08:46] <Laney> let me see
[08:46] <Laney> if not I can just run it I guess
[08:47] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg,Ukikie: yes, this is on my list to sort out today
[08:47] <cjwatson> (autosync)
[08:48] <cjwatson> Laney: it wouldn't be surprising if some stuff on snakefruit hung during Friday's network outage
[08:48] <cjwatson> check start times and kill them if they're ancient
[08:48] <Laney> I think there's a stuck process
[08:48]  * Laney nods cjwatson
[08:48] <Laney> we had that with proposed-migration too
[08:49] <sil2100> Laney, cjwatson: thanks guys o/
[08:49] <sil2100> Since sru-report ran fine when I was running it locally
[08:50] <Ukikie> cjwatson: That's what your remarks in -devel seemed to indicate, thanks btw. :)
[08:55] <Laney> sil2100: Let's see if it works in 15 minutes
[10:18] <sil2100> Laney: it works o/
[11:42] <doko> finally, gcc-8 doesn't try to promote again \o/
[13:02] <stgraber> Laney, LocutusOfBorg: if it's using ubuntu-daily, then those are the official cloud images, not the images that the LXD team generates, so not much I can do about those
[13:02] <stgraber> for the ones that we generate ourselves, we do have i386 for eoan still (images:ubuntu/eoan/i386)
[13:27] <Laney> ah right
[13:34] <Laney> of course I can't generate an i386 autopkgtest image myself now for the same reason
[13:35] <Laney> so like should we turn off i386 testing for eoan?
[13:53] <Laney> this does feel a bit cart before horse though
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lazr.restfulclient (xenial-proposed/main) [0.13.4-5ubuntu1 => 0.13.4-5ubuntu2] (core)
[14:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lazr.restfulclient [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.13.4-5ubuntu2]
[14:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libfm-qt [source] (disco-proposed) [0.14.1-0ubuntu2.1]
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: openjdk-14 (eoan-proposed/primary) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[15:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-14 [source] (eoan-proposed) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[15:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (bionic-proposed/main) [2:12.0.7-0ubuntu1 => 2:12.0.7-0ubuntu2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted aptdaemon [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu14.1]
[16:14] <vorlon> Laney: based on conversations w/ LP team, I expect we will want to use an amd64 image with i386 binaries installed via multiarch for testing; this of course isn't viable for all the packages that exist today and want testing
[16:44] <Laney> vorlon: Something like that sounds good, if that is how we're to be using i386, yes. That'd require work to make possible, of course. I'm still worried that stopping image production before we've really got going on any of the work for this was premature...
[17:23] <cjwatson> I thought I remembered us saying in London that the autopkgtest work needed to be done before the images were dropped
[17:24] <cjwatson> ICBW but it would seem like the sort of thing I'd say :)
[17:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-14 [s390x] (eoan-proposed/universe) [14~4-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-14 [armhf] (eoan-proposed/universe) [14~4-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[17:53] <vorlon> Laney: certainly; in practice the images were dropped per the original plan, before we changed course
[18:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-14 [i386] (eoan-proposed/universe) [14~4-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-14 [armhf] (eoan-proposed) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-14 [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[18:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-14 [i386] (eoan-proposed) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (disco-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu9 => 10.1ubuntu9.1] (core)
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (cosmic-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu7 => 10.1ubuntu7.1] (core)
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (bionic-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu2.4 => 10.1ubuntu2.5] (core)
[18:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: designate (bionic-proposed/main) [1:6.0.1-0ubuntu1 => 1:6.0.1-0ubuntu1.1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[18:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: openjdk-14 [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [14~4-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:22] <Laney> vorlon: ok, cool, so is there a chance they can be put back on then?
[19:22] <Laney> (afk now; attempting a crossgrade - if you never see me again it was nice to work with you all)
[19:23] <vorlon> Laney: in principle, though rcj might shoot me
[19:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: base-files (xenial-proposed/main) [9.4ubuntu4.8 => 9.4ubuntu4.9] (core)
[19:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: edk2 (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0~20180803.dd4cae4d-1ubuntu1 => 0~20180803.dd4cae4d-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[19:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openjdk-14 [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [14~4-0ubuntu1]
[19:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected base-files [source] (xenial-proposed) [9.4ubuntu4.9]
[19:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: edk2 (bionic-proposed/universe) [0~20180205.c0d9813c-2 => 0~20180205.c0d9813c-2ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[20:02] <infinity> vorlon: Being shot is a small price to pay.
[21:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (disco-proposed/main) [2:19.0.1-0ubuntu1 => 2:19.0.1-0ubuntu2] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[21:42] <vorlon> ok so what's going on with ppc64el auotpkgtests?
[21:52] <vorlon> Laney: I see that there are no bos01 runner units on the master, but I see no commits related to this in autopkgtest-cloud, no local changes to the checkout, and no discussion of this in scrollback
[21:52] <vorlon> juliank: ^^ do you know anything?
[21:55] <Laney> vorlon: bos01 is busted, see cRT #119339
[21:55] <Laney> sorry if I forgot to document it
[21:55] <vorlon> ok
[21:55] <Laney> I was going to go to IS office hours tomorrow and ask for it to be worked on
[21:56] <Laney> but feel free to give it a<PHONE_NUMBER>99 or whatever
[21:57] <vorlon> well, it seems I can only set a deadline on that queue :P
[21:57] <vorlon> which is not the most helpful
[22:01] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: I further updated the test case on bug 183370 per sil2100's request. I have further updated the test case since you seem to be confused (or have confused me), so I hope it's crystal clear now.
[22:01] <Eickmeyer> er... bug 1833740
[22:01] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: ^
[22:01]  * Eickmeyer accidentally a number
[22:05] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: I'm not confused about the test case I'm curious what you did to verify that the bug is fixed which lead you to tagging it verification-done-disco.
[22:05] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: I did exactly what I just commented.
[22:06] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: Generally I expect to see something like "I installed ubuntustudio-installer version 1.2.3 from -proposed and I saw that ubuntustudio-gnome-branding was no longer an option".
[22:07] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: ack, do you need that exact comment?
[22:08] <bdmurray> No, this conversation will do for me but do you under the distinction between the test case and the verification process?
[22:11] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: I do understand. Comment #5 was in reference to comment #3.
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mu-editor [source] (disco-proposed) [1.0.2+dfsg-2ubuntu0.1]
[23:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pulseaudio [source] (disco-proposed) [1:12.2-2ubuntu3.1]


[21:00] <Ibyss> Kamijou-Touma: I wasn't too scared to mess anything up due to these reasons:  1. In the past, I reformated and installed windows a few times because of virus issues.  2. No matter how many times I fix it, these knuckleheads always finds a way to screw up my windows System. So I thought "what the hey", and just installed Linux, knowing that "Anything can not get anymore worse no matter what I do".    And besides, you can always throw windows back on here.
[21:00] <lane> with all these exclamation points, i thought people were doing logic on me!
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> poz  i do not use colors, so don't know what you mean, but rather join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <xsaidx> guys
[21:01] <lane> Kamijou-Touma, just rsync every once in a while to a 'safe' place or keep your /home partition on a separate drive or something.
[21:01] <lane> then formatting won't be so scary!
[21:01] <poz> i dont know how to join rooms.
[21:01] <xsaidx> hello guys i installed the mongodb from their repo and cant make it work
[21:01] <Ibyss> poz: Highlight. Whenever someone says your name, that whole line of text becomes red.
[21:01] <lane> type /join #room
[21:01] <dusf> i have blueman installed but when i try to run it from terminal i'm told it's not installed - i can see it in synaptic. how can i remedy this?
[21:01] <poz> i only found this one becuase it was an option i doubled clikced on
[21:01] <AciD_> BluesKaj: it's supposed to, it's the dell U2711. But my bad, I just stumbled upon an ubuntu forum thead indicating than apparently this monitor supports the higher resolution only with dvi or displayport, not hdmi. Having no display port on that laptop, problem (kinda) solved :/
[21:02] <lane> type /join #room | poz
[21:02] <MonkeyDust> poz  how old are you?
[21:02] <poz> oh i see
[21:02] <lane> eleventy seven?
[21:02] <poz> 24
[21:02] <th^2> what is the best way to copy windows partition?
[21:02] <Ibyss> poz: It's an IRC client feature.      Most chat clients today has this. The purpose of highlights is to get your attention.
[21:02] <lane> i was *way* off
[21:02] <pangolin> th^2: ask in ##windows
[21:02] <dusf> i have blueman installed but when i try to run it from terminal i'm told command not recognised - i can see it in synaptic
[21:02] <Ibyss> And it friggen beeps too sometimes depending on the client you use. poz poz & poz.
[21:02] <th^2> pangolin, why?
[21:02] <poz> i see, i thought you had to type the persons name in a special way
[21:02] <poz> mine does not beep
[21:03] <pangolin> th^2: because it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:03] <dr3mro> how to fi x this error [   24.684763] init: apport post-stop process (1149) terminated with status 1
[21:03] <lane> th^2, get in linux and "dd" it
[21:04] <poz> so, i have a bunch of pictures that i want my background to have to change every 15 mins... how can i set it to do that?
[21:04] <th^2> lane, dd is scary
[21:04] <th^2> pangolin, i think you have nothing to do with me
[21:04] <lane> th^2, what's scary about it?
[21:04] <poz> i am on ubuntu 11.1
[21:04] <th^2> lane, its kinda dummy?
[21:05] <lane> th^2, it's a one line command.  copy something to somewhere else
[21:05] <lane> th^2, except it's way cool because either parameter could be a file **or** a block device :)
[21:05] <lane> Take That!  Norton Ghost!
[21:05] <Th3_0n3_n> Is someone pinging me?
[21:06] <Ibyss> lane: Actually, I've seen dd fail..
[21:06] <poz> so, i have a bunch of pictures that i want my background to have to change every 15 mins... how can i set it to do that?
[21:06] <lane> Ibyss, th^2 in that case, rsync
[21:06] <th^2> lane, true. i could make an image by of:image.iso?
[21:06] <BluesKaj> AciD_,  what kind of connection is displayport , I'm not familiar with that
[21:06] <mongy> th^2,  whatever format, I'd use clonezilla
[21:07] <poz> so, i have a bunch of pictures that i want my background to have to change every 15 mins... how can i set it to do that?
[21:07] <lane> uh huh.  and you can mount it again later using the loopback interface, th^2
[21:07] <megamanx1978> poz there is a software package for that but I forget which one it is
[21:07] <poz> oh
[21:07] <th^2> mongy, clonezilla appears not to be in my repos
[21:07] <poz> i downloaded one called desktop
[21:07] <mongy> th^2, it's a livecd
[21:07] <poz> but i dont know how to open it
[21:08] <mongy> th^2,  well, its not what you think when you think livecd, but it needs to be booted from...
[21:08] <megamanx1978> I think pinguy os comes with the package you need poz
[21:09] <poz> what is pinguy?
[21:10] <th^2> mongy, or i could use some tool on this regular ubuntu :D
[21:10] <mongy> th^2, whatever works for you
[21:10] <lane> th^2, if you say "sudo rsync -av source/ destination/", that'll make you a nice copy of everything
[21:11] <BluesKaj> AciD_, nm , I found it
[21:11] <mongy> th^2, it's basically just a script for tools like partimage and partclone.
[21:11] <mongy> th^2, which are in your regular
[21:12] <th^2> mongy, okay
[21:12] <Dutchett> Hello. Is there away to track where someone lives
[21:12] <megamanx1978> Pinguy is a distro
[21:12] <Dutchett> Bye seeing a sort of IP
[21:12] <Dutchett> The IP that they show on icq
[21:12] <Dutchett> like this one?
[21:12] <Dutchett><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:13] <trasier> hi
[21:14] <trasier> spanish help¿
[21:15] <lane> i'm afraid i don't speak any spanish
[21:15] <pangolin> !es | trasier
[21:16] <trasier> thanks pangolin
[21:16] <pangolin> welcome
[21:16] <Vardam1r> hi, I have choppy sound in wine, I'm using ubuntu 11.10. The game I'm testing is Modern Warfare 3. Some times I have choppy sound with Banshee too
[21:16] <Vardam1r> is there some fix to this?
[21:16] <bobthefukuman> where do you get mw3 for ubuntu?
[21:17] <Vardam1r> bobthefukuman just get the windows version, copy the dvd contents to a folder, and install using wine Setup.exe
[21:18] <Labyte> How can I setup Openbox + Tightvncserver on a Ubuntu server?
[21:18] <Vardam1r> my computer is fast
[21:18] <Vardam1r> same problem with last wine version
[21:18] <Vardam1r> installed from ppa
[21:19] <megamanx1978> Vardamir You can try the game using crossover, gametree, or play on linux as well as wine
[21:19] <bobthefukuman> where is wine?
[21:19] <Vardam1r> it looks a pulseaudio problem, because I have that problem sometimes with banshee
[21:19] <Vardam1r> wine always worked fine for me with this computer
[21:20] <bobthefukuman> where can i get wine?
[21:20] <Vardam1r> bobthefukuman in Ubuntu Software Center, just write wine
[21:20] <megamanx1978> I am still trying to get Elder Scrolls 5 Skyrim to work on ubuntu
[21:20] <bobthefukuman> thanks
[21:21] <Vardam1r> megamanx1979 it's a regression for me, StarCraft 2 worked great in the past, now I have that choppy sound too
[21:21] <Yokohead> When installing 11.10 I set a 1tb drive as my /home and told it to encrypt it...  but the 25gb / on my ssd is now 'full' because of things in my home dir,  why is this?
[21:21] <Alonea> ok, so I made a bootable usb with persistence a little while back. How do I get it to auto go into the OS without having to click the Try Kubuntu every time?
[21:22] <Vardam1r> megamanx1979 thank you
[21:22] <megamanx1978> How is the sound on your linux programs?
[21:23] <Vardam1r> usually good, sometimes get choppy with banshee
[21:23] <Vardam1r> only listening to internet radio
[21:24] <megamanx1978> Old PC maybe?
[21:24] <Vardam1r> no
[21:24] <Vardam1r> core 2 duo
[21:24] <tziOm> how do I set default kernel to something else than current?
[21:24] <Vardam1r> 2 GB RAM
[21:24] <Vardam1r> nvidia 8800 GT
[21:24] <FloodBot1> Vardam1r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:24] <poz> eww
[21:24] <poz> mines better
[21:24] <FermiAnyon> that's pretty fancy there, FloodBot1
[21:25] <Vardam1r> in fedora forums they postes some workarounds to choppy sound in pulseaudio
[21:25] <Vardam1r> I had not this problems with ubuntu 10.04
[21:25] <DarkStar1> Ok I need help with the UI in 11.10
[21:25] <Vardam1r> it looks some problem about last version
[21:25] <coraxx> tzi0m: use startup-manager
[21:26] <megamanx1978> The LTS Ubuntus are usualy less buggy
[21:26] <bobthefukuman> help..it keeps telling me i'm out of disc space but it shows plenty of space on the disc
[21:26] <DarkStar1> gnome crashes and unity whilst fine for most of it I can't navigate the software menu because I can't see anything once I click on the ubuntu white logo button. I just get a fade out  of whole screen
[21:27] <megamanx1978> Bob Maybe you need a bigger partition
[21:28] <DarkStar1> I would greatly appreciate any help at the moment regarding why I may be having this issue
[21:29] <goga> hola
[21:29] <coraxx> bobthefukuman: open the terminal and write df  After you press enter it will show you the usage on all partitions on all mounted disks
[21:30] <evildaemon> Hello
[21:31] <megamanx1978> DarkStar1 try installing a different desktop
[21:31] <evildaemon> I'm currently in a CLI environment after installing the mini.iso and need to know the packages required for a normal boot.
[21:31] <megamanx1978> Like Xfce or Kde
[21:31] <mister> evildaemon, what do you consider as normal boot?
[21:31] <mister> evildaemon, do you mean a full ubuntu?
[21:32] <evildaemon> Uh, not having to open a "kernel" tty to run startx.
[21:32] <evildaemon> And startx actually working after installing XFCE.
[21:32] <DarkStar1> Also another thing. How do I access virtual desktops? I see no info for them here
[21:32] <Talish> Does anyone know if I can use Compiz to get rid of that side bar in ubuntu 11.00?
[21:33] <evildaemon> (It worked for a while, and then I did something.)
[21:33]  * DarkStar1 is regretting not install 10.10 at the moment
[21:33] <mister> evildaemon, opening a kernel tty?
[21:33] <mister> evildaemon, you might want to install a desktop manager like gdm or simething like that
[21:34] <evildaemon> Uh yeah, whats the REAL name for control-alt foo?
[21:34] <mister> evildaemon, they will provide a graphical login and also all the permissions to run graphical apps
[21:34] <evildaemon> Okay.
[21:34] <coraxx> Talish: when u login use gnome rather than unity in 11.04 ...the sidebar dissapears
[21:34] <mister> evildaemon, i don't know what the most minimal one
[21:34] <mister> evildaemon, gdm is quite bloated
[21:34] <mister> evildaemon, maybe xdm is what you want
[21:34] <evildaemon> Maybe.
[21:35] <Talish> Ok, thanks I will try that now!
[21:35] <evildaemon> Whatever, apt-get remove.
[21:35] <evildaemon> ...
[21:35] <mister> evildaemon, try xdm
[21:35] <evildaemon> Well, I appear to have fscked the file system.
[21:35] <evildaemon> Wooo
[21:35] <haresh> hello guys
[21:36] <Benkinooby> jo mister
[21:36] <mister> Benkinooby, zup
[21:36] <megamanx1978> Can anyone help me with a E17 error
[21:36] <haresh> how can i make my desktop look like mac like have the scroable icons below the screen
[21:36] <mister> haresh, what ubuntu version do you use?
[21:36] <haresh> 10.04 ls
[21:36] <evildaemon> Oops, I mounted read-only. BRB, gonna reboot.
[21:37] <megamanx1978> haresh Try Installing AWN
[21:37] <mister> haresh, http://sourceforge.net/projects/macbuntu/
[21:37] <shadaloo> Hi! When trying to access my other HardDrives I get "Unabled to mount: Not authorized"
[21:38] <magnofear> wow i just installed ubuntu today for the first time using linux..  but i managed to find my way here.  in first 30 mins
[21:38] <Datsun> Should I be able to browse to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:38] <shadaloo> I have some really important stuff to back up
[21:38] <CHABI> so I'm trying to set up a vpn between my Oneiric Laptop and my Windows 7 desktop. The connection works, but the remote desktop vieweronly returns a blank black screen. Anyone able to help me figure out what's going on?
[21:38] <shadaloo> can anyone please help me
[21:38] <abstrakt> how do I upgrade my system via the command line?
[21:38] <abstrakt> like on a regular basis I get "system updates are available" in my gui
[21:38] <abstrakt> and it lets me choose to install them
[21:38] <mister> shadaloo, you need root rights
[21:38] <abstrakt> how do I trigger that via apt/apt-get/etc
[21:38] <haresh> how to check is my dvd bunner is already installed
[21:38] <abstrakt> i know about sudo apt-get update
[21:39] <shadaloo> mister:
[21:39] <mister> abstrakt, use 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'sudo aptitude safe-upgrade'
[21:39] <abstrakt> which refreshes the repos, but how do I actually install packages that are newer and available?
[21:39] <shadaloo> I tried as root
[21:39] <Tm_T> abstrakt: sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:39] <mister> abstrakt, i recommend aptitude over apt-get because it manages dependecies better
[21:39] <abstrakt> Tm_T, will upgrade move me to a new distro if there's a new release available?
[21:39] <abstrakt> mister, so I've been told
[21:39] <Tm_T> abstrakt: will not
[21:40] <abstrakt> mister, I hate the aptitude search interface though :(
[21:40] <abstrakt> the keys are so unintuitive, why couldn't they have at least standardized on something, vim keys, emacs keys... something
[21:40] <mister> abstrakt, you can use the search option in command line... faster and better ;)
[21:40] <CHABI> so I'm trying to set up a vpn between my Oneiric Laptop and my Windows 7 desktop. The connection works, but the remote desktop vieweronly returns a blank black screen. Anyone able to help me figure out what's going on?
[21:40] <magnofear> Howcome I dont see the list of people in the room?
[21:40] <abstrakt> magnofear, that depends on what client you're using
[21:41] <FermiAnyon> oh yeah!  xchat in the party!
[21:41] <mister> abstrakt, you can do the strangest searches you can't even dream of with a gui  http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html
[21:42] <XDS2010_> Question: How can i get windows to save their positions ?, For instance with chromium. In ubuntu 11.10 windows always snap to the far left or far right but never come back in the same position I closed them in.  I have tried using compiz 's CCSM window rule manager however that did not help at all.  I would appreciate a answer as this is uncontrollably aggravating.
[21:42] <FermiAnyon> yeah.  don't even try piping with guis :)
[21:42] <mister> abstrakt, aptitude might have strange keys (can't they be changed) but the command line interface is totally worth it
[21:42] <shadaloo> guys
[21:42] <shadaloo> I have plugged in my USB hard drive to back up files
[21:42] <shadaloo> and when I try to use it
[21:42] <shadaloo> it says
[21:43] <abstrakt> mister, the searching in apt-cache leaves a lot to be desired as well I must say
[21:43] <shadaloo> "Unable to mount: not authroized"
[21:43] <shadaloo> How can I get access to this USB HD?
[21:43] <mister> abstrakt, i am speaking about the aptitude search
[21:43] <abstrakt> mister, one thing that annoys the heck out of me is that regexes don't *actually* work in apt-cache
[21:43] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[21:43] <abstrakt> mister, yes I know
[21:43] <mister> abstrakt, you must not mix up the aptitude interface an the aptitude commands
[21:43] <abstrakt> mister, yes I know that too
[21:43] <Guest46601> Thanks dude. gdm did it.
[21:44] <FermiAnyon> shadaloo, mount it as root
[21:44] <mister> abstrakt, ok
[21:44] <abstrakt> mister, my point is, do regexes actually work on aptitude command line?
[21:44] <Kingsy> guys, I am trying to apply some updates and it saying that I don't have enough space on my /boot partition.. how do I free some up? I remember sorting this out a while ago by deleting old kernel versions but I REALLY cant remember how I did that
[21:44] <mister> abstrakt, i don't know regexes
[21:44] <abstrakt> mister, hmm, oh well, maybe I'll find out
[21:44] <dusf> how do i check my graphics driver, i don't see ati listed in synaptic?
[21:44] <Kingsy> anyone got any reminders or suggestions for me..?
[21:44] <dusf> is there a command for terminal?
[21:44] <FermiAnyon> ctrl+alt+t
[21:44] <evildaemon> The /boot folder should have some old kernel images in it,
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> ctrl+alt+t dusf
[21:45] <mister> abstrakt, what is regex?
[21:45] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> in gnome anyway
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> mister, regular expressions
[21:45] <shadaloo> FermiAnyon: what is the command for that?
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> su
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> then the root password
[21:45] <shadaloo> what is command to mount?
[21:45] <evildaemon> mount
[21:45] <FermiAnyon> or you can say "sudo mount /dev/whatever /location"
[21:45] <evildaemon> To unmount is umount
[21:46] <dusf> FermiAnyon: that does nothing
[21:46] <dusf> ctrl+alt+t
[21:46] <FermiAnyon> dusf what wm are you using?
[21:46] <mister> FermiAnyon, ah like some*thing when i don't know what between some and thing is?
[21:46] <dusf> xfce
[21:46] <dusf> ?
[21:46] <evildaemon> Anyway mister, what I meannt was a tty device.
[21:46] <FermiAnyon> mister, like that but much *much* more powerful
[21:46] <mister> FermiAnyon, ok
[21:46] <shadaloo> where do I find the HD?
[21:46] <FermiAnyon> dusf, sorry.  don't know xfce.  you'll just have to find it in the menu somewhere.
[21:47] <shadaloo> like
[21:47] <FermiAnyon> shadaloo, "dmesg | grep -e hd -e sd" should give you a list of connected devices
[21:47] <mister> evildaemon, hm, i think what you are lookg for is above my knowledge... sorry
[21:47] <shadaloo> FermiAnyon: thx
[21:47] <evildaemon> No, you did it.
[21:47] <evildaemon> I'm in xfce right now.
[21:47] <FermiAnyon> gtg
[21:47] <dusf> FermiAnyon: nps
[21:48] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[21:48] <shadaloo> FermiAnyon: that is not returning anything
[21:50] <shadaloo> FermiAnyon: That did not return anything
[21:50] <mister> evildaemon, "No, you did it." was that for me? did you get what you want?
[21:50] <shadaloo> mister: how do I show my hard drives
[21:50] <shadaloo> if I want to mount one
[21:50] <evildaemon> Yeah.
[21:50] <evildaemon> Thanks.
[21:51] <mister> shadaloo, the best thing is to look what you got in /dev/ there are all your partitions listed
[21:51] <Th3_0n3_n> http://l337stuff.blogspot.com/p/irc.html
[21:52] <shadaloo> guys
[21:52] <shadaloo> is there an easy way to remove an encrypted filesystem
[21:52] <shadaloo> ./dev has like 200 things listed
[21:53] <mister> shadaloo, do that in your command line 'ls /dev/sd*'
[21:53] <mister> shadaloo, without the ' ' of course ;)
[21:53] <shadaloo> ok
[21:53] <shadaloo> I used fdisk -l
[21:53] <shadaloo> to find it
[21:53] <shadaloo> so now
[21:53] <shadaloo> I use
[21:53] <FloodBot1> shadaloo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <shadaloo> sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /home/myUser/Desktop/USB
[21:54] <mister> shadaloo, you can use fdisk too... but it need sudo rights...
[21:54] <shadaloo> right?
[21:54] <mister> shadaloo, correct
[21:54] <shadaloo> ok
[21:54] <shadaloo> here we go
[21:54] <mister> shadaloo, but ther are tools that will do the mounting for you automatically if it is a pendrive
[21:55] <mister> Benkinooby, roggen
[21:55] <shadaloo> mister:
[21:55] <shadaloo> what tools?
[21:55] <Benkinooby> mister, weizen
[21:55] <shadaloo> I just want t be able to back up my files
[21:55] <aikInsaan|home> what apt should I get to install x11vnc on ubuntu-server? apt-get install x11vnc?
[21:55] <evildaemon> For backups, I'd use something like tar.
[21:55] <mister> shadaloo, hm.... i was in your situation a looooooooong time ago... sorry i can not remeber the name... google for it a bit and you will find as i did
[21:56] <mister> shadaloo, but if you need the mount only one time then forget about the tools
[21:56] <ikonia> aikInsaan|home: open the package manager, search for vnc, you'll see options (different versions) pick the one you like and install it
[21:56] <shadaloo> mister: do you have any idea what the name is
[21:56] <shadaloo> mister:  yes just one time
[21:56] <mister> shadaloo, ok, so you want to backup files from a partition
[21:56] <loginix> k
[21:56] <mister> shadaloo, did you allready mount the partition?
[21:57] <mister> shadaloo, with the command you said...  sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /home/myUser/Desktop/USB
[21:57] <evildaemon> Whats the system you install to manage network connections?
[21:57] <evildaemon> I need it so I can get off the carpet.
[21:57] <mister> evildaemon, you can either go for the NetworkManager or you go for wicd
[21:58] <mister> evildaemon, wicd is more independent and has a command line interface too for emergencies
[21:58] <evildaemon> I think I'll opt for wicd.
[21:58] <mister> evildaemon, one thing
[21:58] <shadaloo> mister: fermiAnyone: thank you
[21:58] <shadaloo> it worked
[21:58] <shadaloo> mister: thanks very much
[21:58] <evildaemon> Go on...
[21:58] <mister> evildaemon, you can install xubunutu-desktop
[21:58] <evildaemon> I already installed XFCE.
[21:58] <mister> evildaemon, that will install a full xfce environment
[21:58] <evildaemon> Xubuntu desktop is sort of fat in comparison.
[21:59] <mister> evildaemon, with the default network manager... so you don't have to get the software you need piece by piece
[21:59] <evildaemon> XFCE standalone looks closer to the 90's than Ipad.
[21:59] <mister> shadaloo, so your problem is solved?
[21:59] <dusf> how can i check my ati driver version please?
[21:59] <dusf> i can't find anything ati in synaptic
[21:59] <mister> evildaemon, if you want something fast go for fluxbox ;)
[21:59] <mister> evildaemon, that is what i use
[22:00] <mister> evildaemon, in combination with wicd, kupfer and thunar
[22:00] <mister> evildaemon, super fast
[22:00] <apwbdjp> Or lxde
[22:00] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:00] <mister> evildaemon, my ressources: kde > gnome > xfce > lxde > *box & other window managers > command line
[22:01] <branko89> i have problem
[22:01] <mister> evildaemon, my -> by
[22:01] <branko89> anyone to help?
[22:01] <abstrakt> mister, RegEx is short for "regular expression" ... http://google.com/search?q=regular+expressions
[22:01] <mister> branko89, how sould we help you if we don't know your problem?
[22:01] <branko89> po mogucnosti da je sa balkana :)
[22:01] <CHABI> so I'm trying to set up a vpn between my Oneiric Laptop and my Windows 7 desktop. The connection works, but the remote desktop vieweronly returns a blank black screen. Anyone able to help me figure out what's going on?
[22:01] <branko89> ok ok
[22:01] <mister> abstrakt, thank you... i googled in the mean time ;)
[22:02] <abstrakt> mister, i love regex :)
[22:02] <branko89> today a install ubuntu 11.10.
[22:02] <abstrakt> mister, many people like to say the joke "you used a regex? well, now you have two problems..."
[22:02] <branko89> i try to install java
[22:02] <mister> CHABI, hm.. i think you mix up some things... do you want vpn or vnc?
[22:02] <branko89> but i think i made some mistake
[22:02] <dusf> how can i check my ati driver version please?
[22:02] <apwbdjp> branko89, please ask in one line
[22:03] <mister> abstrakt, ;)
[22:03] <CHABI> it's quite possible I have my fundamtentals wrong, mister
[22:03] <abstrakt> mister, but that joke just shows the ignorance of the person telling it
[22:03] <CHABI> I don't have any background knowledge on networking
[22:03] <abstrakt> mister, regex are wonderful... learn them... then use, rejoice, rinse, repeat
[22:03] <mister> abstrakt, amen ... ommmmmmmmmm
[22:04] <jutnux> Regex is a whole language :'(
[22:04] <branko89> ok,i try to install java but i made some mistake
[22:04] <mister> CHABI, do you want to control the other computer remotely?
[22:04] <sent17inel> how do i start gnome network manager from terminal?
[22:04] <mister> branko89, how did you do it... you have to give more info if you wnat help... we can not read minds
[22:04] <sent17inel> i was using wicd but now i want to use the ubuntu defualt
[22:04] <CHABI> yeah, that's what I'm going for, Mister.
[22:05] <mister> CHABI, ok, first of, vpn is "virual private network" it is for establishing secure network connections, not more not less... it got not too much to do with remote control
[22:05] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:06] <mister> CHABI, except if you might want to secure your remote communication
[22:06] <branko89> I do this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjmF_eqLY7A
[22:06] <mister> CHABI, what you want now is a software the manages the remote control
[22:06] <branko89> same
[22:06] <CHABI> is vinigre not adequate for that?
[22:06] <mister> CHABI, so what you want is  program called vnc on your windows computer and vnc on your linux compter
[22:07] <branko89> and now i cant download appl on ubuntu sc
[22:07] <mister> CHABI, is responsible for sending the screen of the windows computer to your linux computer and seding the keyboard input from linux to windows
[22:07] <mister> CHABI, i don't konw vinigre
[22:08] <mister> CHABI, vnc is the best know program in that area
[22:08] <CHABI> mister, makes sense sofar. Vinigre is Oneiric's built in remote desktop viewer
[22:08] <sent17inel> anyone know how to start gnome network manager from terminal?
[22:08] <mister> CHABI, i am not sure if the linux desktop viewer will work with windows
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> sent17inel  try nm-applet
[22:09] <sent17inel> thanks monkey
[22:09] <mister> sent17inel, nm-applet or something like that
[22:09] <Ibyss> sent17inel: nm-applet &
[22:09] <mister> oh, too slow sent17inel
[22:09] <Ibyss> With the ampersand.
[22:09] <sent17inel> its ok  :) thanks mister
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> the & makes it rub in the background
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> run
[22:09] <CHABI> mister, vinigre has a vcn protocol
[22:09] <mister> branko89, sorry, i can not help you further... i have to go to bed :(
[22:10] <sent17inel> k
[22:10] <mister> CHABI, i was never in the situation to remote control a windows computer from linux ... once i was but the i used teamviewer ... it's a quick and dirty solution
[22:11] <mister> CHABI, if you are sure that the remoteviewer can handle windows then head on... i am sure there is a good tutoral or how-to in the interwebs
[22:11] <mister> CHABI, good night
[22:11] <nrdb> atm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?
[22:11] <mister> CHABI, have to o to bed ;)
[22:11] <CHABI> mister, thanks for the help
[22:12] <fsmu> hi. I want to conrtibute to ubuntu but I do not know where to start. checked get involved and contribute to pages but get so much mixed up. is there any mentor that I can contact?
[22:12] <sent17inel> what are you trying to contribute
[22:13] <fsmu> well I just want to contribute as a coder
[22:13] <sent17inel> nice
[22:13] <Benkinooby> fsmu, as a beginner the best thing is to hang around in this irc channel, help whenever you can... that's the best way of learning and seeing where problems are that you could solve
[22:14] <Benkinooby> fsmu, as a coder you ight look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToFix
[22:15] <robin0800> fsmu: there is a developer blog on omg!ubuntu! which give details of areas of help needed
[22:16] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:17] <fsmu> thanks for replies, I want to contribute in developing an application from the start. is it possible for me?
[22:19] <avsu> why ppl quit?
[22:20] <Benkinooby> avsu, some1 mentioned before that some irc servers will be restarted...  hence the net split
[22:20] <Benkinooby> avsu, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[22:20] <avsu> ok then :)
[22:22] <fsmu> @MonkeyDust, the problem is, I dont have an app to develope in my mind
[22:22] <ali> hi
[22:22] <Ibyss> ./gnuducttape server1 server2
[22:22] <ali> im getting this msg ,what the problem ? " installArchives() failed: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:   unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error  Error in function:   SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)  dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:   unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error"
[22:23] <silentnights> hi all, I have a problem with my laptop temperature, It goes so high, over 90c.. I have gone all the way looking for a solution and Ifound out I have to configure /etc/sensors.d/sensors.conf but I don't know what to add there, and I don't really understand the man page for sensors.conf
[22:23] <whitekidney> Is there a easier way to mount windows shares in linux than use smb? I keep getting "Mounting failed" or something even though I'm putting in the right IP and share (No user/pass required)
[22:23] <ali> any help please?:) im trying to add language and getting this error,why that plesae?
[22:23] <ali> installArchives() failed: dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:   unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error  Error in function:   SystemError: E:Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)  dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:   unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': Input/output error
[22:24] <lool-test> hmm
[22:24] <silentnights> ali: r u sure u have enough space in /var ??
[22:24] <Benkinooby> hi, i am in wireless lan... shouldn't i see the traffic of other computers?
[22:24] <sc30317> does anyone know why when I try and start Sauerbraten in Ubuntu 11.10 my whole system locks up?
[22:25] <ali> i think ,im using usb and added 1.5GB for changes
[22:25] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: no, explain more
[22:25] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: with a wireless card you can see other routers and wireless devices on the same frequency
[22:25] <aeon-ltd> what is this a netsplit?
[22:25] <jafo_> ali: Does the "dmesg" command, showing kernel log information, show anything interesting, like a kernel oops or I/O errors?
[22:26] <jafo_> ali: I replied to you.
[22:26] <ali> yea hard to see in here sec ill check
[22:26] <silentnights> here is my output of sensors command http://paste.ubuntu.com/767382/
[22:27] <ali> im getting very long output where  should i check?
[22:27] <Benkinooby> aeon-ltd, i have 2 laptops in the same wireless lan... now i want to see what one laptop is doing with running wireshark on the other... i only see the activity if laptop 1 pings laptop 2 with wireshart... but if laptop 1 goes to internet i dont see anything on laptop 2
[22:27] <whitekidney> Is there a easier way to mount windows shares in linux than use smb? I keep getting "Mounting failed" or something even though I'm putting in the right IP and share (No user/pass required)
[22:28] <antipragmatist> hi
[22:28] <antipragmatist> is this the place for help with ubunboo-boo 11.10?
[22:29] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: i am not sure, iirc one of the wireless cards need to be in a different mode to see those kind of packets
[22:29] <aeon-ltd> Benkinooby: #backtrack-linux will likely know more
[22:29] <antipragmatist> I have laptop running nvidia quadro fx3600M , but it will not dual display when i plug in second mionitor
[22:29] <sc30317> does anyone know why when I try and start Sauerbraten in Ubuntu 11.10 my whole system locks up?
[22:29] <silentnights> can someone help me with my laptop temperature problem?
[22:29] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:30] <teratoma> should i inflict the latest version of ubuntu on someone , or the LTS version ?
[22:30] <Benkinooby> aeon-ltd, ok, thank you
[22:30] <sent17inel> ok yea nevermind those aren't really windows programs
[22:31] <antipragmatist> my freind warnerd me that ubuntu 11.10 was a boo-boo
[22:31] <antipragmatist> :(
[22:31] <silentnights> can someone suggest what config should Iadd to sensors.conf ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/767382/
[22:32] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:33] <antipragmatist> when I installed ubuntu 11.10 I made uboo-boo
[22:33] <antipragmatist> i:(
[22:33] <antipragmatist> :(
[22:33] <antipragmatist> aint no help here?
[22:33] <owenll> antipragmatist http://askubuntu.com/questions/67495/getting-dual-monitors-to-work-on-11-10
[22:34] <silentnights> so no one to help with a little temperature problem?   I'm not running a domain on my home network. Is there any way around this?  I'm not running a domain on my home network. Is there any way around this? I can't connect to my windows share because of this.
[22:41] <ali> may i have little help please? dont matter what im trying to install iim getting error :"E: Unable to locate package..."
[22:41] <whitekidney> And where do I view samba error messages? there are no detailed error messages..
[22:41] <diverdude> Hello, how do i find out what group a user belongs to?
[22:41] <Flannel> diverdude: `groups username`
[22:41] <howarder> Hi all! I am having an issue with Ubuntu 11.10  ... I seem to be continually getting logged off when simply browsing the web. Anyone familliar with this issue?
[22:42] <Myrtti> diverdude: groups username - or id
[22:42] <Alonea> ok, so I made a bootable usb with persistence. How do I get it to auto go into the OS without having to click the Try Kubuntu every time?
[22:42] <incorrect> can you get gnome classic desktop with 11.10?
[22:42] <ali> may i have little help please? dont matter what im trying to install iim getting error :"E: Unable to locate package..."
[22:43] <asjsajs> shit
[22:43] <hejar> hej
[22:43] <howarder> ali, are you using the software manager to install?
[22:43] <hejar> detta chatt liknar mirc
[22:43] <hejar> hi
[22:43] <hejar> i am a new user
[22:43] <ali> im just trying in terminal
[22:44] <hejar> for linux
[22:44] <hejar> and i need help
[22:44] <Myrtti> hejar: hi, welcome to #ubuntu
[22:44] <hejar> for msn and yahoo messenger and skype
[22:44] <hejar> thanks Myrtti
[22:44] <howarder> Ali, what package are you trying to install?
[22:45] <ali> im trying install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:45] <Alonea> ali: try refreshing your package list
[22:45] <Alonea> ali: and make sure its not locked
[22:45] <ali> how so please
[22:45] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:45] <Myrtti> hejar: which part are you having trouble exactly?
[22:46] <Alonea> ali: apt-get update
[22:46] <silentnights> I have my laptop overheat, is there a way to make my fan run faster?? I think I need toconfigure /etc/sensors.d/sensors.conf but I am not sure what to add there
[22:46] <ali> yea i just wrote that saw from google
[22:46] <silentnights> here is the output of sensors command http://paste.ubuntu.com/767382/
[22:46] <Alonea> ali: to refresh.
[22:46] <ali> that update some but still the same
[22:46] <serega_by> Hi all
[22:46] <serega_by> who can help me
[22:46] <Alonea> ali: you using sudo?
[22:46] <aeon-ltd> ask away
[22:46] <serega_by> I install wheezy debian
[22:46] <ali> yes
[22:47] <apwbdjp> !help | serega_by
[22:47] <serega_by> i want to install drivers for video adapter
[22:47] <hejar> Marrti i just need msn and yahoo and facebook in ubantu
[22:47] <serega_by> nVidia geForce 6150SE
[22:47] <serega_by> how i can make it ?
[22:47] <Alonea> hejar: I use pidgin personally
[22:47] <Myrtti> serega_by: if you've got debian, then this isn't your channel
[22:47] <BarkingFish> serega_by: You need to go to #debian - we only deal with Ubuntu here
[22:47] <serega_by> ok
[22:48] <hejar> how i get to instail
[22:48] <hejar> and some
[22:48] <Alonea> ali: um, you don't have another package manager open right?
[22:48] <hejar> links
[22:48] <ali> any idea please?:)
[22:48] <hejar> ?
[22:48] <ali> no
[22:48] <Alonea> hejar: just install with apt-get
[22:48] <incorrect> gnome-classic is not actually gnome 2 is it?
[22:48] <apwbdjp> hejar, sudo apt-get install pidgin
[22:48] <silentnights> can someone help me with my laptop overheat problem?
[22:49] <incorrect> you can't actually configure the layout?
[22:49] <dagerik> how to turn off screensaver? cant find anything in system settings
[22:49] <trism> incorrect: alt+right click the panel to edit it (and yes it is gnome 3 fallback, not gnome 2)
[22:49] <apwbdjp> silentnights, if it's software issue, we can, if it only needs a new fan, then you know what to do
[22:49] <incorrect> trism, thanks
[22:50] <silentnights> apwbdjp: It's a software issue for sure, cause the fan is running slow and It goes faster when the heat goes up, but I think It needs calibration
[22:50] <incorrect> oh compiz doesn't work for sliding the desktop around
[22:51] <apwbdjp> silentnights, the fan is usually controlled by the bios, I never heard about an uncalibrated fan. Is CPU usage too high from the moment you start the machine?
[22:51] <silentnights> apwbdjp: here is output of sensors command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/767382/    as you can see the temperature is 79, and the fan is not running at full speed yet
[22:52] <Alonea> ali: what package are you trying to install again?
[22:52] <ali> flashplugin-nonfree
[22:53] <silentnights> apwbdjp: no, the cpu is not too high.. I don't think so... From what I read throw googling I might need to edit /etc/sensors.d/sensors.conf and set low and high values for the fan. but I am not sure.
[22:53] <pion> bonsoir
[22:53] <slugzzz> Hey all... I am having some major issues with Ubuntu 11.10. I keep getting logged out when browsing the web, whether it is on Firefox or Chrome.... any suggestions?
[22:54] <Talish> Can anyone tell me how I can get rid of the sidebar thing on ubntu 11.00?
[22:54] <apwbdjp> silentnights, as I said, the fan is (usually, on all hardware that I dealt with) controlled by the bios, not by the os
[22:54] <silentnights> apwbdjp: I don't know how to debug the issue, if you can suggest anything it would be great, btw my fan goes faster when the temperature goes higher like 85 or something
[22:54] <Alonea> ali: did you add the restricted packages to your list?
[22:54] <brightspark> pion- Anglais ici, si tu veux parler francais: #ubuntu-fr
[22:54] <keithclark> I created a link to a directory in my /home directory.  I can access it fine when I'm on the physical machine but when I try and access it via ftp, it gives me an "This link cannot be used, because its target "/media/f8a84f74-ec09-4912-bb46-bd176c7777d7/Videos" doesn't exist." error.  I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here.
[22:54] <Alonea> ali: its not in the default list
[22:55] <raven> pulseaudio how to setup loopback 5.1 graphical monitor/peakmeter
[22:55] <apwbdjp> silentnights, did you try burning the cpu until it shuts down? See at which temperature is dies? (make sure you've got enough security on your cpu before doing this)
[22:55] <ali> dunno what you mean:S i just installed ubuntu on the usb and trying to start add packages
[22:55] <brightspark> keithclark, is it a symbolic link or a hard link?
[22:55] <ali> that the first
[22:55] <slugzzz> Talish, you have to install a special plugin for compiz manager.
[22:56] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, NO DONT DO THAT. DONT OVER HEAT YOUR CPU!
[22:56] <Talish> sluggz how do I even use compiz? and where can i get this plugin?
[22:56] <keithclark> brightspark, I created it in nautilus via 'make link'
[22:56] <silentnights> apwbdjp: no, I did not try to, but my laptop hangs sometimes when it goes overheat.
[22:56] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, what is your problem exactly ?
[22:56] <Alonea> ali: ok, go to your package manager and check the rest of the repos. Its in one of those.
[22:57] <MahaVishnu> apwbdjp, it's not a good idea to tell someone to over heat an electronic device just for future reference.
[22:57] <ali> you mean maybe update manager?
[22:57] <Alonea> ali: I haven't used gnome in forever, so I don't know what package maanger it uses anymore
[22:57] <apwbdjp> MahaVishnu, I don't know, it's getting pretty hard to fry a cpu these days..
[22:57] <keithclark> brightspark, I assume that would be a symbolic link?
[22:57] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: my temperature is always high, the minimum when I just start my laptop is 55, and usually when It's idle in 60... And the temperature goes over 90c many times :s
[22:57] <BarkingFish> silentnights: which CPU?
[22:58] <incorrect> can i change the theme?
[22:58] <Alonea> ali: you are trying to get flash correct? I believe its included in chrome automatically.
[22:58] <apwbdjp> MahaVishnu, but still, I admit it's not very safe either.
[22:58] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, have you tried using an air duster and spraying it n the vents? is your fan running, are you using this laptop on a completely flat surface ?
[22:58] <nrdb> atm the <alt> key can be used to drag a window without using the title bar... the key used, could be configured in previous versions   , I can't find anywhere to change it with this new install... With ccsm I completly disabled the 'Move Window' plugin... but the <alt> can still move the window... how do I change the key or turn it off all together?
[22:58] <brightspark> keithclark, I'm not sure; currently trying to figure it out.  I typically use the terminal to do file manipulation.
[22:58] <Naynay_> Why isn't ubuntu 11.10 remembering the passwords to any of my wireless access points? Every time I connect to one I have to type the password in
[22:58] <trism> incorrect: yes, install gnome-tweak-tool
[22:58] <silentnights> Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz
[22:58] <incorrect> you are kidding right?
[22:58] <BarkingFish> silentnights: give me a moment
[22:59] <brightspark> keithclark, you are correct.  You could see if you get the same behaviour from a hard link.
[22:59] <trism> incorrect: no, gnome removed the appearance settings (you could just use gsettings from the command line but gnome-tweak-tool is easier)
[22:59] <ali> but i wanna firefox:S
[22:59] <incorrect> trism, unbelievable!
[22:59] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: my laptop is new, so no dust yet... and yes it's on flat surface
[22:59] <Alonea> ali: yeah, its there. Adobe Flash plugin
[22:59] <silentnights> BarkingFish: take your time, am here :)
[22:59] <BarkingFish> silentnights: you need to have your laptop checked over.  90c is the upper thermal shutdown limit on an i5-2410m
[23:00] <BarkingFish> I suspect that's a fault
[23:00] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, how new ? 50c-60c on a laptop is ok. but 90c is not. how often is it 90c ?
[23:00] <brightspark> keithclark, use the command "ln" in the terminal to make a hardlink (it will do symbolic links iff you use the "--symbolic" flag).
[23:00] <apwbdjp> silentnights, some BIOS's do show temperature, in the setup settings, did you check that?
[23:00] <keithclark> brightspark, yes, researching now
[23:00] <Alonea> ali: if you enable those other package locations and search for flash, you will see it.
[23:00] <MahaVishnu> apwbdjp, that temp will be under like 0% load though.
[23:00] <apwbdjp> silentnights, if temperature doesn't get high, there, then it's either cpu usage goes too hard for some reason, or sensors is screwing with you
[23:01] <silentnights> BarkingFish: I tried to install Backtrack just to check if the temperature isthe same and I found thetemperature is much lower, in 40s c
[23:01] <ali> dont understand you:S i=m realy new to ubuntu
[23:01] <Alonea> ali: unfortunately, I gotta go. Hopefully you figure it out! If not, I am sure someone else can help
[23:01] <apwbdjp> MahaVishnu, sure, but he said the temp is high even on idle, so it'll give a slight idea
[23:01] <ali> k ty
[23:01] <BarkingFish> silentnights: that is very odd then.
[23:01] <silentnights> MahaVishny: new as it is 2 months old
[23:01] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, so it never goes to 90c in a different linux ?
[23:01] <Alonea> ali: umm, yeah, its under "settings" in whatever your package manager is
[23:02] <BarkingFish> What version of Ubuntu are you using on your machine, silentnights?
[23:02] <Alonea> ali: should be a bunch of check boxes under sources or something like that.
[23:02] <Alonea> ali: look around
[23:02] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: It goes over 90 if for example am opening many tabs on FireFox
[23:02] <incorrect> i've somehow lost indicator
[23:02] <incorrect> how can i get that back?
[23:02] <keithclark> brightspark, hmm, 'hard link not allowed'
[23:03] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: only saw got that high on Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 but I haven't tried many distros
[23:03] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, that is very curious, my girlfriend had a laptop that was getting to 90c it actually turned out to be a faulty h/d was some how affecting the whole system ( when I changed the hd it fixed the temps ) not that this is your problem but it's possible alot of laptop hd/s do go bad.
[23:03] <BarkingFish> silentnights: that is definitely abnormal for a brand new machine.  My laptop barely passes 65c, and it's about 6 years old.  I only have a Celeron M 1.6Ghz in it.
[23:03] <silentnights> BarkingFish: Ubuntu 11.10 now
[23:04] <brightspark> keithclark, you are trying to link to a file on another partition.  I'm not sure how to make that work.  Here is a thought- are you certain the partition is mounted in /media when you try to access it remotely?
[23:04] <BarkingFish> A new machine, with a relatively new processor in it certainly shouldn't be activating UTEL with just a few progs and tabs running.
[23:04] <slugzzz> Hey all, ubuntu 11.10 keeps logging me out seemingly randomly while I am on the web... any suggestions?
[23:04] <BarkingFish> *sorry - damn my shortcuts...
[23:04] <trism> incorrect: indicator-applet is no longer in the repos, wasn't ported in time, but there is a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~jconti/+archive/gnome3 , and the branch should be merged soon
[23:05] <silentnights> The thing I notice is that the fan can go much faster, for example now the temp is 66 and I barely hear it running, while when itgoes for example 85 or 90, I start hear it running.
[23:05] <BarkingFish> that's better.  UTEL should have read upper thermal emergency limit.
[23:05] <silentnights> so the thing is I need the  fan to run at that high speed earlier
[23:05] <keithclark> brightspark, yes, mounted fine
[23:05] <BarkingFish> I had my shorthand plugin on
[23:05] <BarkingFish> :)
[23:06] <incorrect> trism, i am a bit confused, i something as i installed xubuntu thinking there was no way to get a gnome 2 type interface
[23:06] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, how fast is your fan spinning, you can do 'sensors' in a terminal
[23:06] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: no it doesn't show it's speed with sensors: here is output http://paste.ubuntu.com/767382/
[23:06] <trism> incorrect: xfce has an indicator applet that should be installed by default, maybe you just need to add it to the panel
[23:07] <apwbdjp> silentnights, that's not controlled by the OS, generally, the fanspeed is a BIOS matter.. and I still have the feeling that sensors is lying to you
[23:07] <brightspark> keithclark, Is your FTP set up to allow access to places other than the home directory?  It may be a security feature preventing you from accessing files you are not permitted to.
[23:07] <trism> incorrect: sorry I thought you were still using gnome 3 fallback
[23:07] <owenll> Has anyone managed to get http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4od Channel 4 on demand to work on Ubuntu / Linux?
[23:07] <silentnights> apwbjp: but the laptop goes so slow when the heat goes up so it seems not to be lying
[23:08] <robin0800> !notunity | incorrect
[23:08] <apwbdjp> silentnights, you say that it does show you over 90° and the machine keeps running. Wouldn't an i5 go into security shut down, at this temp?
[23:08] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, I hate to say it, but did you check these temps in windows also just to be double sure, can you feel a hotspot near the fan ?
[23:08] <keithclark> brightspark, ahh, this might be, not sure
[23:09] <slugzzz> Has anyone else experienced issues with 11.10 logging out randomly?
[23:09] <incorrect> robin0800, i got that far, i just trying to get back to something closer to gnome2 desktop this time last year
[23:09] <Talish> Can anyone tell me how to get rid of the sidebar in 11.10?
[23:09] <keithclark> slugzzz, no.  Works fine for me.
[23:09] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: No I don't have windows installed, and yes it seems hot around the fan.
[23:09] <incorrect> Talish, go back to gnome-classic like me
[23:10] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, like I said before, I have encountered a failing HD that will cause system heat in a laptop (somehow idk how) have you checked the s.m.a.r.t status of the h/d ?
[23:10] <brightspark> keithclark, can you access ".." ie the directory level up in FTP?
[23:10] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: no I haven't, how can I do so?
[23:10] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, is it an HP laptop lol.
[23:10] <apwbdjp> slugzzz, I did have that. For me it was X segfaulting (Ubuntu Netbook, two years ago), I reinstall the system from nothing, and it's working fine. I'm sure this is of no help, but still, just to answer your question.
[23:10] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: No, It's a lenovo G570 :)
[23:10] <hejar> thanks
[23:10] <hejar> its work now
[23:11] <robin0800> incorrect: well I think gnome classic is very configurable and can even run compiz
[23:11] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, ahh good hp is crap. anyway in a terminal type sudo palimpsest you might have to do sudo apt-get install palimpsest
[23:11] <roasted> Has anybody successfully used the open source ATI drivers with a laptop and used HDMI out with no issues?
[23:12] <slugzzz> apwbdjp, I've heard of that issue.... I don't think it is that, though... I had no problems until the most recent batch of software updates.
[23:12] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, select a drive in the left pane of that program, and then in the top right you see a button for like check smart status.
[23:12] <incorrect> ok my next question, can i get compiz running with gnome classic?
[23:12] <slugzzz> It's really driving me absolutely mad.
[23:12] <slugzzz> incorrect, of course.
[23:12] <incorrect> slugzzz, do i need to install anything?
[23:12] <uira> Someone can help-me with my 1366x768 macbookair display. 4.1, 11 inch
[23:12] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: It says disk is healthy
[23:12] <uira> the resolution doesnt work
[23:13] <slugzzz> incorrect, you should install the compiz manager tool from the software center.
[23:13] <Talish> incorrect how do i do that?
[23:13] <apwbdjp> silentnights, how about it's temperature? (clic the SMART Status to have a full report)
[23:13] <robin0800> incorrect: yes see webupd8 article
[23:13] <keithclark> brightspark, no, I cannot
[23:13] <MahaVishnu>  silentnights. silentnights hit view smart data then run self test just to be double sure.
[23:13] <aikInsaan|home> what's the command to find out the kernel & os version etc that you are currenly using on bash
[23:14] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: It's temp is 40 and I started the selftest
[23:14] <slugzzz> Is anyone here running ubuntu on an Alienware m15x?
[23:14] <poz> ubottu, you are my hero
[23:14] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, you said this is 2 months old. when did the problem start? and the failing drive I had also had a normal temperature. but it did fail the selftest.
[23:14] <aikInsaan|home> what's the command to find out the kernel & os version etc that you are currenly using on bash
[23:15] <poz> MahaVishnu!!
[23:15] <brightspark> keithclark, look up "ftpchroot".  It sounds like the tool you need.
[23:15] <Talish> Who can help me 1 on 1 to make ubuntu 11.04 look like 10????????/
[23:15] <aikInsaan|home> where is the x11vnc binary kept?
[23:16] <robin0800> slugzzz: that won't get compiz to run it needs a hack
[23:16] <poz> Talish, 11.04 looks like 11.1 already
[23:16] <aikInsaan|home> I get 'couldn't find package x11vnc' when I do go 'apt-get install x11vnc'
[23:16] <poz> what is the difference?
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> aikInsaan|home: uname -a
[23:17] <Talish> poz: i ment 10
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> aikInsaan|home: lsb_release -a
[23:17] <poz> oh i see
[23:17] <Talish> @poz I want to get rid of the sidebar
[23:17] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: The self test went fine, I first installed ubuntu 11.04 on it, and I noticed it hangs from time to time, I never suspected the temperature thing, and later I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 and then i noticed sometimes it goes slow when I open many tabs onfirefox with many youtube for example... so I started to investigate the temperature, and I found out it's temp is always high.
[23:17] <poz> sorry, i thought you ment change the .04 into a .1
[23:17] <poz> you dont like the side bar?
[23:17] <robin0800> !notunity | Talish
[23:17] <Talish> Nah I prefer the old ubuntu
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> aikInsaan|home: you need to either get a ppa or enable whatever repo x11vnc is in
[23:18] <poz> so why not install the old ubuntu?
[23:18] <bob_> sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[23:18] <mongy> Talish,  Xfce
[23:18] <bob_> Gnome 3, but classic
[23:18] <aikInsaan|home> aeon-ltd: ppa?
[23:18] <Talish> whats xfce?
[23:18] <BoomerBile> can anyone point me to a guide for setting up wireless connections using wpa2 personal without using network manager and preferably with bonding support... i've got the bonding set up but I have no idea how to use the new /etc/network/interfaces file with wpa2 or wireless
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> !ppa | aikInsaan|home
[23:19] <MahaVishnu>  silentnights sorry I lagged out for awhile. when did your problem start with this laptop ?
[23:19] <bob_> xface is another desktop
[23:19] <bob_> xfce rather
[23:19] <aikInsaan|home> aeon-ltd: thanks!
[23:19] <incorrect> compiz doesn't seem to start with gnome-classic
[23:19] <bob_> http://www.xubuntu.org/
[23:19] <roasted> Has anybody successfully used the open source ATI drivers with a laptop and used HDMI out with no issues?
[23:19] <poz> mahavishnu, were you the guy who helped me yesterday?
[23:19] <MahaVishnu> poz, yea man ;-)
[23:19] <robin0800> incorrect: see webupd8 article
[23:20] <keithclark> brightspark, could it be because I've not modified my fstab for this drive?
[23:20] <poz> can you tell me about the blacklist, like what it does? or are you busy helping someone right now?
[23:20] <incorrect> robin0800, maybe i missed something
[23:20] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: I think ever since i purchased it, but I did not notice till later. I had Ubuntu 11.04 installed and noticed it hangs from time to time, And I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 and noticed it slows down, so I started to suspect the temperature, and I set the sensors and noticed temp is high
[23:20] <MahaVishnu> poz, it's a list of 'kernel modules' that the kernel is told to 'blacklist' or 'ignore' on bootup so they are not loaded on the system.
[23:20] <robin0800> incorrect: it needs a hack see the article
[23:21] <brightspark> keithclark, If stuff is mounting correctly I doubt it, I think FTP's security is simply denying you access to anything outside of your home directory.
[23:21] <keithclark> brightspark, I believe that there is a settings file for that, no?
[23:21] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, since it is 2 months old, contact lenovo since it's under warranty it sounds like it might be somehow defective since it is too new to be clogged with dust. and you can feel the heat on the bottom like I could with my gf's laptop. I would imagine that some piece of hardware is faulty since an i5 should take alot to get to those temps you are showing.
[23:22] <brightspark> keithclark, I think you need to enable access to /media by using ftpchroot or similar.
[23:22] <owenll> !wifi
[23:22] <varun06> Eclipse process doesn't stop even after exiting from Eclipse
[23:22] <varun06> any idea
[23:22] <brightspark> keithclark, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ftpchroot&sektion=5
[23:22] <ali> ?
[23:23] <ali> may i have little help please?:) im trying to install flash and adding langauge and cant both:S
[23:23] <poz> oh ok, well thank you again for your help yesterday. mashavishnu
[23:23] <cheshire_fox> I'm on 10.10 and my wireless driver now refuses to work after updating to the latest kernel from the official repos.  It's a broadcom chipset
[23:23] <poz> so what does the "tpm_tis" kernal do?
[23:23] <MahaVishnu> poz, were you just curious are you having some problem still ?
[23:23] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: but isn't it weird that it's not same hight temperature with backtrack??
[23:23] <apwbdjp> !broadcom | cheshire_fox
[23:23] <poz> curious as to what it does
[23:23] <trism> ali: make sure multiverse is enabled and install flashplugin-installer (or enable partner and install adobe-flashplugin)
[23:23] <poz> i guess i can google it
[23:24] <ali> :S
[23:24] <roasted> Has anybody successfully used the open source ATI drivers with a laptop and used HDMI out with no issues?
[23:24] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, yea I guess. but there is no reason if you are not running anything on ubuntu that it should get hot either. 40-60c I have seen on laptops normally.
[23:25] <poz> i agree
[23:25] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: I guess I will try install other distro and check as well, and at last I will install Windows and see.
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, are you using the cpufreq adjuster applet at all?
[23:26] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: yes am setting it on demand, if not using it, it even normally goes higher faster
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, and you installed 64bit ubuntu right?
[23:26] <silentnights> yes
[23:26] <MahaVishnu> wtf -_-
[23:27] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: what's wrong? :D
[23:27] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, hrm. im almost at a loss here then, idk why it's cooler on backtrack it really shouldn't be.
[23:28] <cheshire_fox> apwbdjp: lspci didn't give me anything
[23:28] <MahaVishnu> I was half hoping you installed 32bit and thats why it was getting hot heh.
[23:28] <cheshire_fox> wait, tried it again and now it did
[23:28] <cheshire_fox> wtf
[23:28] <fizyplankton> is there a way to make the command "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" execute at startup? i need it to launch up the wifi drivers, and it is really annoying having to type it every time.
[23:28] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: I can install backtrack again and see how is it goin, and I will try Fedora as well just to double check the problem there
[23:29] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, if you would like.. im still leaning towards faulty hardware some how.
[23:29] <trism> fizyplankton: add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[23:30] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, what do you have in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq
[23:31] <apwbdjp> MahaVishnu, I agree, brand new i5 should NOT reach 90° this easily.
[23:31] <fizyplankton> trism: and is there anyway to make ndiswrapper modprobe-able without root? my wifi drivers occasionally crap out on my, so i cant SSH in, so i was thinking aboiut setting up a script to "sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" every day at like 3 am or so just to refresh the drivers
[23:31] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: nothing
[23:32] <yamahaalex37> installing ubuntu, has network error
[23:32] <yamahaalex37> on my laptop with integrated wireless
[23:32] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, call lenovo, get it looked @ COULD be a bug with that specific model, can you paste the model again? like me and apwbdjp it *really* should not get that hot only time I ever got my i3 that hot I had accidently unplugged the fan cleaning it out.
[23:32] <yamahaalex37> Network autoconfig failed, your network probably not using DHCP protocol
[23:32] <yamahaalex37> does this mean i probably wont get wireless internet with my laptop?
[23:32] <keithclark> anyone else know why I cannot access a symbolic linked directory via ftp?  I can when on the physical machine.
[23:33] <MahaVishnu> keithclark, cause symbolic links don't work in ftp.
[23:33] <keithclark> MahaVishnu, ok, how to make it work then?
[23:33] <yamahaalex37> Network autoconfig failed, your network probably not using DHCP protocol
[23:34] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: it's lenovo G570, here is link on lenovo http://consumersupport.lenovo.com/us/en/DriversDownloads/drivers_list.aspx?CategoryID=130485
[23:34] <MahaVishnu> keithclark, the link cannot extend to where the ftp user does not have access to go. do you know what I mean ?
[23:34] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: try turning off DHCP in ubuntu;s wireless options, and make sure you router IS using DHCP. more than one thing administering DHCP results in network errors
[23:34] <CarlFK> keithclark: often ftp server will chroot to something, and if the symlink links out of it, no access
[23:34] <sebastian> aa
[23:34] <keithclark> MahaVishnu, yes, how to grant permission?
[23:34] <CarlFK> keithclark: or the server doesn't follow links.  apache is that way by default I think.
[23:34] <silentnights> Mahavishnu, apwbdjp: Thank you both.. I will do more testing with other distros and see what I get
[23:34] <MahaVishnu> keithclark, make the ftp user owner of that folder? im not really sure sorry.
[23:34] <slugzzz> Hey all... so Ubuntu seems to keep logging out on me randomly... but especially when I full-screen a youtube video... any ideas?
[23:35] <MahaVishnu> I have *NEVER* used ftp lol.
[23:35] <yamahaalex37> fizyplankton, i believe my router is dhcp
[23:35] <inertial> if I check the 'Source code' option in the package manager, should I be able to see source packages for every single package or is it just select ones? I am looking for the source package for libstdc++
[23:35] <apwbdjp> silentnights, if on all the distros you'll be testing temp with sensors, then think of trying Windows too
[23:35] <yamahaalex37> i see dhcp address and mac addresses in <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:35] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: btw o you know what does /etc/sensors.d/sensors.conf then if it doesn't control fan?
[23:35] <keithclark> MahaVishnu, I need to access some files on a mounted drive on a remote computer.  How else to access them?
[23:36] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, have you done all the bios updates for that machine? they might require windows anyway.
[23:36] <apwbdjp> silentnights, it's probably faulty hardware, but it's still worth checking before shipping it back
[23:36] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, that controls your sensors command
[23:36] <murfie> oh, how about a nice off-topic chat?
[23:36] <trism> inertial: with the source enabled, you just need to use: apt-get source package_name; and you can download the source into the current directory
[23:37] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: right click on the wireless icon, chick edit connections, wireless, select the one your using, click edit, then click ipv4 settings, try automatic(DHCP), then go to ipv6 and make sure its disabled. if that wont work, try all the different ipv4 things under method
[23:37] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, my fans show up in my sensors command. Im on a desktop though....   fan2:        2547 RPM  (min =    0 RPM)
[23:37] <user82> does anyone know how i can preview a animated wallpaper in gnome 3?
[23:37] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: No, haven't done the update. will try it once I install windows for testing
[23:37] <apwbdjp> keithclark, mount the drive inside a folder, somewhere the user has access to?
[23:37] <inertial> trism: thanks I'll try that
[23:37] <yamahaalex37> fizyplankton, thanks. its not installed yet. but i will when it is
[23:37] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, thats what i'd do. if windows runs hot. or if the bios updates don't fix it. id call lenovo period ;-)
[23:37] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: what isnt?
[23:37] <yamahaalex37> ubuntu
[23:37] <yamahaalex37> this was on install autoconfig
[23:37] <keithclark> apwbdjp, not sure how to do that exactly
[23:38] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: do you know why my fan speed doesn't show it's speed with sensors command?
[23:38] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, always possible its an ubuntu bug just doesn't seem like it.
[23:38] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: just cutious, what ubuntu are you installing?
[23:38] <yamahaalex37> 11.10 i believe
[23:38] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, no, try doing sudo sensors-detect and follow the onscreen instructions.
[23:38] <_cb> clear
[23:39] <_cb> Is there a way to put a folder on the application bar on the left on Unity?
[23:39] <apwbdjp> keithclark, you check out mount to see the decide name and where it's mounted, then you unmount it, mkdir a new mount location into your home, and mount /dev/device new_location, (not very clear, I admit..)
[23:39] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: ok. im using 10.04 LTS, so i dont know that much about oneiric. i only use lucid. never used maverick, tried natty once, hated it, and never used oneiric
[23:39] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: I did sudo sensors-detect and followed the instruction from ubuntu, I saw some people use fancontrol to control their fan speed, I just don't know how to... lol
[23:39] <cheshire_fox> Alrighty, I installed the STA driver for my chipset using that fairly simple how to, but now the gnome network applet says that the 'device is not ready (firmware missing)'  I presume I can't use the STA drivers then?
[23:39] <trism> _cb: you can create a .desktop file that runs: nautilus /path/to/folder
[23:39] <trism> _cb: then drag and drop that to the launcher
[23:40] <inertial> fans are often controlled by I2C.. the lm-sensors.org page has more info
[23:40] <yamahaalex37> wtf
[23:40] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, being a laptop, it might only have a coretemp-isa-* sensor chip not a. it87* type sensors ( the one that show fan speed )
[23:40] <yamahaalex37> i am on install: Partition Disks
[23:40] <keithclark> apwbdjp, yeah did not follow you at all.
[23:40] <yamahaalex37> sda, b, or d?
[23:40] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: yes right it only has coretemp-isa-0000
[23:41] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: if your still configing the install, dont worry about the wireless not working. thats like being upset that your child cant read or write when your wife is only 3 months pregnant
[23:41] <yamahaalex37> ok fizyplankton
[23:41] <yamahaalex37> how do i know which disk is which
[23:41] <yamahaalex37> resize SCSI 1, 2, or 6
[23:41] <yamahaalex37> all say (0,0,0)
[23:41] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: how many physical harddrives are in your machine?
[23:41] <inertial> trism: is there some extra step to automatically unpack the package and apply any ubuntu specific patches to it?
[23:42] <_cb> trism will give that a try. Thanks !
[23:42] <cheshire_fox> fizyplankton: I'm the one worrying about her wireless not working :P
[23:42] <fizyplankton> cheshire_fox: not trying to be rude, but who are you?
[23:42] <Ibyss> yamahaalex37: sda = drive 1. sdb = drive 2,             sda1 = partion1 on drive 1.        sda2 = partition2 on drive 1.
[23:42] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, you can't run fancontrol with no it87 from what i'm reading ... no way to control the fan.
[23:42] <yamahaalex37> fizyplankton, 2
[23:42] <kashyap1> what does this mean  Makefile:415: *** mixed implicit and normal rules.  Stop. oe_runmake faiiiiled
[23:42] <yamahaalex37> i did manual, found the free space, and said auto partition
[23:42] <trism> inertial: that should happen automatically for most packages
[23:42] <yamahaalex37> it made 2 partitions, one was swap
[23:43] <BoomerBile> can anyone point me to a guide for setting up wireless connections using wpa2 personal without using network manager and preferably with bonding support... i've got the bonding set up but I have no idea how to use the new /etc/network/interfaces file with wpa2 or wireless
[23:43] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: it should do that
[23:43] <silentnights> Mahavishnu: Ok, thanks a lot. at least now I don't have to keep looking... That was about to drive me nuts :)
[23:43] <inertial> trism: it decided to download gcc instead of libstdc++, and it seems there are some ubuntu specific patches to be applied.. well if you don't know, don't worry, I'll figure it out..
[23:43] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: the swap partition is like an extension of your RAM, should the computer ever need it
[23:43] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, when you get to windows install 'speedfan' it will show you all your sensors info.
[23:43] <yamahaalex37> is swap like pagefile
[23:43] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: yes exactly
[23:43] <[deXter]> Hi all, I'm unable to browse SMB shares on my network using Nautilus.. however, smbclient seems to work just fine. The error message in Nautilus is "Unable to mount location - failed to retrieve share list from server". Any ideas how to fix it? Thanks.
[23:43] <yamahaalex37> is 6gb ext and 7gb swap enough for ubuntu?
[23:44] <Idk123> whois idk123
[23:44] <MahaVishnu> silentnights, maybe your fans will show / maybe not. but like I said a few times if it is hot in windows too and the bios updates don't fix it being hot atleast in windows then it *could* be an ubuntu bug but likely hard ware call lenovo make them fix it!
[23:44] <trism> inertial: if you just: apt-get source gcc; you won't get the right package
[23:44] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: 6bg is rather small for the install, but not unbearable, and how much ram do you have?
[23:45] <trism> inertial: you will want, for instance: apt-get source gcc-4.6
[23:45] <nevyn> [deXter]: are you on a domain? if not are the shares everybody full control in their sharing controls?
[23:45] <kn_> hi!i have a small problem with ubuntu 9.10, when i want to install chrome, i have something like that: Error: libasound2 (>>1.0.22)
[23:45] <yamahaalex37> wtf!!
[23:45] <yamahaalex37> AN installation step failed, the failing step is: select and isntall software
[23:45] <[deXter]> nevyn: Nope I'm not on a domain, this is a home network.. I'm able to browse the shares from windows machines just fine
[23:45] <silentnights> MahaVishnu: ok thanks. I will try windows ASAP and see. It's annoying I can't fully use it cause of a heat issue, hope to see you tomorrow to tell u the results, Thanks again :)
[23:45] <kashyap1> Can anyone Help with this problem: what does this mean  Makefile:415: *** mixed implicit and normal rules.  Stop. oe_runmake failed :: linux-libc-headers??
[23:46] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: also, is it ext or is it ext3/4?
[23:46] <silentnights> nite nite Ubuntu :-)
[23:46] <yamahaalex37> 4 i think
[23:46] <Ibyss> kn_: sudo apt-get install libasound2
[23:46] <yamahaalex37> but install failed
[23:46] <nevyn> [deXter]: is workgroup set the same in samba as on the windows systems?
[23:46] <yamahaalex37> coudl this have to do with SSD, AHCI mode
[23:46] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: hrm. try redoing it. also, are you trying to dualboot it? or can ubuntu use all the disk space it wantss?
[23:46] <[deXter]> nevyn: yes, it's "WORKGROUP".. like is said, smbclient works just fine, it's just Nautilus that's causing the issue..
[23:47] <yamahaalex37> dual boot
[23:47] <yamahaalex37> coudl this have to do with SSD, AHCI mode
[23:47] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: ok. dual boots arent that hard to install (i have quad boot), but they certainly do make it somewhat more trickey. not hard, just one more complication
[23:48] <kashyap1> what does this mean  Makefile:415: *** mixed implicit and normal rules.  Stop. oe_runmake faiiiiled
[23:48] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: it might. if you have a plain harddrive, i would try than, then if that works, try the SSD
[23:48] <yamahaalex37> fizyplankton, it was ext4, is that correct
[23:48] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: ok good. you had me concerned for a minute
[23:48] <kn_> Ibyss: failed, libasound2 have the newest ver.
[23:49] <yamahaalex37> im trying to resize swap to 2
[23:49] <yamahaalex37> and ext4 to 10
[23:49] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: how much ram do you have?
[23:49] <yamahaalex37> 8
[23:49] <yamahaalex37> 8gb
[23:49] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: then ideally, swap should be 16 gb. how big are your drives?
[23:50] <MahaVishnu> I doubt you need 16gb swap though ;-P
[23:50] <yamahaalex37> my ssd is 70
[23:50] <yamahaalex37> with 14 free for this
[23:50] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: then 10 and 2 should be good. not ideal, but good
[23:51] <fizyplankton> MahaVishnu: its reccommended to ahve 2x the ram for swap. although i butchered my install and i have 4 gigs ram, and closer to 22 gigs of swap. dont ask how. i dont like to talk about it
[23:51] <kashyap1> Hello HELP! package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed
[23:51] <kn_> Ibiss are you there?
[23:52] <_cb> the partiton that holds most of my data is mounted to /media with a very long name. To rename it, do I just rename the folder in media?
[23:52] <yamahaalex37> i thought i didnt need swap...
[23:52] <fizyplankton> _cb: give the partition a label, and ubuntu will use than rather thanthe serial number for the ,mount poiunt
[23:52] <apwbdjp> yamahaalex37, It's always safer to have swap, I believe
[23:52] <lduros> hello, my laptop won't actually turn off after I do sudo halt or press the shutdown button in the menu. It will start the process to shut down, but after "will now halt" and "[57.577933] System Halted it just never actually turn off. Any idea what might be going on? :-) This requires me to press the power button for 10 seconds every time
[23:52] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: you technically dont, but just like pagefile, its is better to have it than to not
[23:53] <Relondo> Hey, everyone. I need some help installing Ubuntu.
[23:53] <kn_> someone?
[23:53] <fizyplankton> lduros: use sudo shutdown -p now
[23:53] <lduros> fizyplankton: what does that do?
[23:53] <fizyplankton> lduros: sorry. "sudo shutdown -P now". it tells it to shutdown after it unloads the kernal
[23:53] <apwbdjp> lduros, it tells the system to power off, after halting
[23:53] <lduros> fizyplankton: sudo halt doesn't turn off the laptop?
[23:54] <kn_> i have a small problem with ubuntu 9.10, when i want to install chrome, i have something like that: Error: libasound2 (>>1.0.22)
[23:54] <fizyplankton> lduros: nope. it does everything EXCEPT pull the plug
[23:54] <lduros> fizyplankton: odd, I've been using it all the time, but maybe it was debian
[23:54] <lduros> :-)
[23:54] <lduros> fizyplankton: ok, good to know
[23:54] <lduros> :-)
[23:54] <yamahaalex37> fizyplankton, could fail have been due to lack of internet?
[23:54] <murfie> yes
[23:54] <kn_> sudo apt-get install libasound2  failed, libasound2 have the newest ver.
[23:54] <yamahaalex37> shit
[23:54] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: very doubtfull, but maybe
[23:55] <_cb> fizyplankton how do I label a partition in Ubuntu 11.10?
[23:55] <trism> inertial: ahh, yes seems you need extra steps for the gcc package anyway, see debian/README.source
[23:55] <fizyplankton> yamahaalex37: try plugging it into a landline, then install
[23:55] <kashyap1> no one helpful today in room !!!
[23:55] <qmanjr5> How do I add items to the sidebar in Unity?
[23:55] <cheshire_fox> ANyone have an idea as to why I would get an 'firmware missing' error after installing the STA driver for my broadcom bm4312 chipset?
[23:55] <trism> inertial: in general though, most packages using quilt will have patches automatically applied after apt-get source
[23:55] <Relondo> I have tried with Wubi and by booting from a flash drive on 64-Bit, and I've tried booting from a flash drive with 32-Bit. The problem I'm having is that I can boot to Ubuntu, but once I do, there's no video. I have audio, but nothing shows up. I have also tried booting the 32-Bit version from a flash drive on another computer, but that computer doesn't seem able to boot from USB, so I don't know if it's a problem with the iso or with
[23:55] <fizyplankton> _cb: look in system>administration>then disk utility
[23:56] <kn_> fizyplalankton maybe you will help me?
[23:56] <fizyplankton> kn_: whats up with you? iv only been paying attn to pings
[23:57] <apwbdjp> kn_, it tells you libasound2 is at newest version, what makes you think it's not?
[23:57] <kn_> i have a small problem with ubuntu 9.10, when i want to install chrome, i have something like that: Error: libasound2 (>>1.0.22)
[23:57] <_cb> fizyplankton thanks. (Will have to figure out how to do it in Unity. Still learning this interface)
[23:57] <kn_> sudo apt-get install libasound2  failed, libasound2 have the newest ver.
[23:57] <Relondo> I feel that it's probably something really stupid that I'm overlooking, but I can't for the life of me figure it out. I've also tried booting 64-Bit from CD.
[23:57] <fizyplankton> kn_: i have no idea
[23:58] <kashyap1> package linux-libc-headers-2.6.20-r7: task do_configure: failed???????????????????????????
[23:58] <kn_> and i don't find anythin like this on google;/
[23:58] <Relondo> Fizzyplankton, you seem to be the knowledgeable one. Any thoughts?
[23:58] <fizyplankton> _cb: look for disk utility. if you cant find that, gparted is a more powerfull but more user hostile alternative. i reccomment disk utility. look for a way to give the selected partition a laben (note than it will have to be unmounted)
[23:58] <Ibyss> kn_: From google searching, it suggests your ubuntu is too old.
[23:59] <fizyplankton> kn_: Relondo _cb yamahaalex37 and everyone else: its din-din time for me. sorry
[23:59]  * fizyplankton nomms his dinner
[23:59] <apwbdjp> fizyplankton, enjoy ^^
[23:59] <_cb> ok the way to find it in Unity one has to click on the icon on the top left and type disk utility.