[12:15] <ninHer> hi all
[12:15] <Rumpa> hi
[12:16] <feierfox> hi ho
[12:18] <yahou> hello, I seem to have a problem with 3D acceleration under feisty (Radeon 9550, the default "Restricted driver" properly installed); how can I check configuration and what to look for there? Anybody, please?
[12:18] <Rumpa> what kind of problem?
[12:19] <yahou> well, it doesn't work under Cedega 6.0 - the test fails
[12:20] <feierfox> does work Cedega for real?
[12:20] <yahou> but I think it works in general since TuxRacer works properly (at least I think so)
[12:20] <feierfox> i tried it some times ago... ;/
[12:20] <Rumpa> I have never used Cedega so I couldn't tell what's wrong if it failed in a test
[12:21] <yahou> ok, but my question is: how do I check the configuration and what to look for there in connection with full 3D Acceleration
[12:26] <Rumpa> yahou: Chech with gedit that you have 'Driver "fglrx"' in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf under the Device section
[12:27] <yahou> glxinfo | grep render
[12:27] <yahou> direct rendering: Yes
[12:27] <yahou>     GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture
[12:27] <yahou> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9550/X1050 Series
[12:27] <yahou> seems so...
[12:28] <Rumpa> it seems to work, maybe the problem is in cedega
[12:28] <eagles0513875> dude take a look at cross over
[12:28] <Rumpa> or wine
[12:29] <eagles0513875> u have to pay for it like u do cedega but it seems to bee soooooo much better
[12:29] <BluesKaj> yahou, try fgl_glxgears in the terminal
[12:30] <yahou> 300-500 FPS
[12:30] <yahou> even more
[12:31] <yahou> so, this one wouldn't work if I didn't have FULL OpenGL support, would it?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> 6 sided spinning cube with 3 spinning gears on each face
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:31] <yahou> yep
[12:31] <yahou> exactly
[12:31] <BluesKaj> ok, you hav DRI and 3D
[12:32] <yahou> btw can a cube have any other number of sides? ;>
[12:32] <BluesKaj> nope a cube is always 6 sides
[12:33] <Rumpa> I'm out of ideas. Maybe it's time for me to go to sleep. See ya!
[12:33] <yahou> oh, I see... ;]
[12:33] <Rumpa> :D
[12:33] <yahou> thanks anyway, bye!
[12:33] <BluesKaj> otherwise it would be called by another geometric name
[12:33] <eagles0513875> blues may i pm ya dude
[12:33] <yahou> yep, just being sarcastic or... whatever... I'm tired too
[12:35] <NickPresta> that's strange. I just ran glxgears and resized it to about 1000x1000 and it switched around my twinview configuration and crashed X. weird...
[12:35] <yahou> wait a minute - "blueskaj"? czy przypadkiem nie mowimy tym samym jezorem? ;)
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yahou, sorry ...
[12:36] <BluesKaj> don't speak the laguage
[12:36] <eagles0513875> what language is it anyway lol
[12:37] <eagles0513875> no offense
[12:37] <rustalot> What kind of destop search is ther efor kubuntu.. I've boon using google desktop, but I'd like something that 'fits in' with KDE
[12:37] <NickPresta> rustalot, perhaps beagle?
[12:37] <TeraDyne> !info kerry
[12:37] <ubotu> kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.2.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 291 kB, installed size 1360 kB
[12:37] <yahou> oh, sorry, your nick doesn't seem to be understandable in english
[12:38] <yahou> I mean the SKAJ    part
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Blues is for the fact that i play drums in a blues/rock band , Kaj is my given name (Swedish in origin BTW) :)
[12:40] <TeraDyne> rustalot: I suggest "kerry", which is a KDE frontend to Beagle
[12:40] <BluesKaj> But i live in Canada and speak mostly english :)
[12:41] <rustalot> cool. Will it then pick up the indexing that was done using the GNOME frontend?
[12:42] <TeraDyne> rustalot: I dunno. I haven't used GNOME since Breezy, so...
[12:42] <rustalot> kde is cooler. 'specially with the whole integration thing
[12:44] <clouder> Hi
[12:44] <TeraDyne> rustalot: I personally perfer KDE because of the level of customization.
[12:44] <BluesKaj> lotsa ppl migrating from gnome to kde
[12:45] <clouder> because of plasma screens popping up
[12:45] <clouder> Plasma app not plasma screen monitors
[12:45] <clouder> Thats why I giving it a whirl anyways
[12:47] <BluesKaj> plasma app ?
[12:47] <clouder> I mean KDE4
[12:47] <rustalot> it would be cool if you could have tabbed terminal embedded into konqueror
[12:47] <BluesKaj> oh that ...it's not ready for prime time
[12:47] <rustalot> or better yet have one meta application that had everything embedded as a KPart
[12:54] <angasule> !webcam
[12:54] <clouder> Ive run into a problem though.  I had been trying to get my dualies to work using the monitor & display settings.  Finally I looked in the xorg.conf and turned mergefb off and left xinerama on (it had both for some reason).  Now the display looks fine dualies working, but the Monitor and Display Settings sections crashes when I try to go to it
[12:54] <clouder> and Power Management crashes when I start KDE
[12:54] <clouder> any ideas or insight?
[12:55] <angasule> I can't receive webcam in kopete, anyone knows why
[12:55] <angasule> ?
[12:55] <clouder> angasule: can you use it in anything else?
[12:56] <angasule> clouder: /receive/
[12:56] <clouder> woops sorry
[12:56] <angasule> so... I guess nobody knows?
[01:02] <clouder> the backtrace give me a lot of lines of no debugging symbols found and near the end has something like this #6  0xb6a2d454 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2
[01:06] <TeraDyne> Wow, did they accideny kill some of the servers or something? I haven't seen that sevre of a netsplit in a while
[01:06] <TeraDyne> accidently*
[01:12] <BluesKaj> angasule, that's pretty general question ..can you get any video at all on kopete?
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> And this is done in the installer?
[01:12] <TeraDyne> O_o; Wow. Netsplit... More like net destruction...
[01:12] <angasule> BluesKaj: how would I get video on kopete?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> if you have a tvtuner card, angasule
[01:12] <angasule> BluesKaj: I don't
[01:12] <BluesKaj> or other video input
[01:12] <angasule> BluesKaj: like...?
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> Or do I have to create these 3 partitions myself, as I really don't want to
[01:12] <TeraDyne> Net asplode...
[01:12] <zorglu_> !info flv gutsy
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> Aye, busy channel, huh?
[01:12] <TeraDyne> zorglu_: I think the bot got caught up in the netsplit.
[01:12] <zorglu_> ah ok :)
[01:12] <TeraDyne> PSPJunkie: No, freenode just exploded and split.
[01:12] <BluesKaj> DOS attacks ?
[01:12] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: I'm starting to wonder...
[01:12] <vzduch> BluesKaj: no, Windows attacks :D
[01:12] <TeraDyne> XD
[01:12] <BluesKaj> hehe
[01:12] <vzduch> PSPJunkie: I never used the automatic functions, I prefer doing it all myself
[01:12] <BluesKaj> gonna add some other freenode servers, just in case this keeps up
[01:12] <vzduch> so I can't say whether it will suggest creating a separate /home
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> I don't have my osx install disks on me, and i was told that partitioning the disk while running osx will cause it to erase all of the data
[01:12] <clouder> Anyone know why System Settings would crash when trying to get to Monitor and Display settings after changing 2 lines of MergeFB from on to off?
[01:12] <yahou> holy crap! a pubic hair in my bathtub has just formed a Debian logo O_o
[01:12] <clouder> take a picture and put it as your desktop
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> Not surprising :P
[01:12] <yahou> that's probably where they got the design
[01:12] <sweettooth> Hi there, has anyone experienced slow loading experience with firefox in kubuntu(feisty)?
[01:12] <sweettooth> its like when you clicked firefox, it loaded the browser and another window in the taskbar saying loading firefox
[01:12] <TeraDyne> sweettooth: Yes, but, then again, firefox is always slow for me.
[01:12] <sweettooth> TeraDyne, heh, have you got any problems using firefox?
[01:12] <BluesKaj> a lot of ppl are complaining about FF these days ...guess it's the purist influence at work :)
[01:12] <TeraDyne> sweettooth: Not any more. I use Konqueror and SeaMonkey now.
[01:12] <sweettooth> lol
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> Overall, I CAN install only using the installer and still dual-boot with os x, correct?
[01:12] <sweettooth> well i do like firefox as a fact, however, it seem to take up quite a bit resource and loading slowly
[01:12] <BluesKaj> seamonkey is just mozilla /netscape in strange clothing :)
[01:12] <TeraDyne> sweettooth: It's done that for me since 1.0.7
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> java is slow in general
[01:12] <sweettooth> konqueror does not render some text properly for me unfortunately, as i browse the net more than just english sites
[01:12] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: No, it a continuation of Mozilla, since Moz corp dumped it like it was trash.
[01:12] <BluesKaj> konqueror is a nice browser...supposedly the safest available
[01:12] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: No, that's probably Lynx, or some other older terminal browser.
[01:12] <zombielion> jthutchins: I was wondering if hot plugging would work or if the libhid would work i remember now when i had it connected in linux it said human interface device i am almost positive it can work in linux i just dont know where to start
[01:12] <sweettooth> PSPJunkie, Java? hmm, its been slow since the day i was programming it in, heh
[01:12] <sweettooth> prefer python mostly nowadays
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> I like c :)
[01:12] <BluesKaj> been reading about testing on konq and it's been able to resist phishing and pharming attacks better than any other
[01:12] <eagles0513875> night blues
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> I'm mostly over at the PSP homebrew scene though
[01:12] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, sleep well
[01:12] <sweettooth> BluesKaj, that's true, it even seems to block ads better
[01:12] <zombielion> i dont know what to do
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> I just want to be safe in keeping both OS's without losing data. Anyone dual-boot here?
[01:12] <sweettooth> PSPJunkie, i have dual boot
[01:12] <sweettooth> what do you mean by safe? usually its pretty safe, at least for me, heh
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> What OS's?
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> I don't want to lose anything in the process
[01:12] <sweettooth> M$ and Kubuntu
[01:12] <nonni> me to Kubuntu rocks
[01:12] <sweettooth> so far it does!! ^^
[01:12] <nonni> so far ?
[01:12] <sweettooth> cos i havent moved to kubuntu long enough
[01:12] <sweettooth> used to be a fan of SuSE
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> Well, I'll boot up in the installer disc and see what it says
[01:12] <PSPJunkie> lemme get on irc one the windows first
[01:12] <sweettooth> Good luck and have fun mate
[01:12] <zombielion> i like how kubuntu looks like MS kinda.  No one is forcing you to get Vista unless you want to play the newest games made for DX10/Vista. In which case, you're no better off with a Console or Handheld. ;)
[01:21] <clouder> If anyone has time to look at this and give me a shout back, Id appreciate it. http://rafb.net/p/DzShzs91.html
[01:21] <NickPresta> of unfounded logic**
[01:21] <sweettooth> just a silly q, wonder if konqueror and firefox using same text set? cos some encoding is messed up in konqueror, while i can browse perfectly in firefox
[01:22] <NickPresta> sweettooth, in Konqueror, go to Settings > Configure and then head to the Font section. You can compare there. Firefox uses iso-8859-1 encoding by default. Konqueror may be using utf-8 by default.
[01:23] <acemo> wich file can i choose my default Java Virtual Machine?
[01:24] <PSPJunkie_Win> argh, I booted up the installer, but i can't move in teh menu
[01:24] <PSPJunkie_Win> i don't think the keyboard is working at all
[01:24] <NickPresta> clouder, the error may be caused from the three inputdevices in your xorg.conf (eraser, cursor and stylus). You should be able to remove those without any problems. That may solve your problem.
[01:25] <NickPresta> clouder, unless of course, you have a tablet PC.
[01:27] <clouder> NickPresta: so your saying I should remove those 3 wacom entries?
[01:27] <jtmoney> i have my mp3s sorted in directories with lots of unwanted JPGs in those directories as well... how can i recursively delete those files? rm -r *.jpg doesn't work since it's not a directory
[01:28] <NickPresta> clouder, you could try it, yeah
[01:28] <clouder> alright, Ill give it a shot.  Thanks
[01:28] <sweettooth> NickPresta, I have tried to set the encoding in Konqueror. The encoding im trying to use is Big5(Traditional Chinese) Meanwhile, it worked perfectly in firefox, it didn't work quite well in konqueror (with encoding specified)
[01:28] <PSPJunkie_Win> Anyone redirect me to a installing tut?
[01:29] <sweettooth> is there anyway to use the encoding that firefox is using?
[01:29] <NickPresta> sweettooth, hmm. I don't have any experience with chinese texts so I can't help much.Sorry
[01:30] <sweettooth> PSPJunkie_Win, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty have a look, it has been useful for me
[01:31] <sweettooth> NickPresta, np, thx for helping, do you know where could i go for help with encoding issues in konqueror by any chance?
[01:33] <Dragnslcr> So I saw a Samsung color laser printer (think it was the 510N) for $160 after rebates. Think I should jump on that?
[01:38] <PSPJunkie_Win> sweettooth, I'm stuck in the installer menu. That guide is post install
[01:38] <sweettooth> oh installing as in installing os, my bad
[01:38] <PSPJunkie_Win> yeah, doesn't look as my keyboard works at all
[01:38] <PSPJunkie_Win> since it is a laptop
[01:38] <sweettooth> does it not? i installed it on my laptop and it worked straight from the box
[01:40] <PSPJunkie_Win> yea, no buttons works
[01:40] <sweettooth> PSPJunkie_Win, see if this helps.. https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/index.html
[01:40] <PSPJunkie_Win> I can try plugging in a wireless usb keyboard
[01:40] <sweettooth> that's weird
[01:54] <sweettooth> but did the keyboard work at all when you were in the live CD mode?
[01:54] <PSPJunkie_Win> ? I booted up my mac holding c and it went straight to the installation menu
[01:54] <PSPJunkie_Win> this wireless keyboard works though
[01:54] <sweettooth> PSPJunkie_Win, good..mac... unfortunately i don't have any mac installing kubuntu experience, sorry couldn't be of much help
[01:54] <ksz2005_> ok
[01:54] <ksz2005_> suod
[01:54] <PSPJunkie_Win> np
[01:54] <PSPJunkie_Win> I got the PC Intel x86 alternate installer from http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/feisty/ Does that look right?
[02:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !w32codecs
[02:26] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:28] <scotty> How do you whitelist a site on Konq's adblock?
[02:28] <dumnut> hi, i downloaded kubuntu ver 6 and burned iso onto disk, then i installed disk on another computer and clicked on iso program, peazip opened to a series of files, i clicked on start.exe and nothing happened, what shoulkd i have done?
[02:30] <ardchoille> dumnut: Linux doesn't use .exe files.
[02:34] <ardchoille> dumnut: And the latest kubuntu is 7.04
[02:34] <dumnut> this computer is win2000 that i want to convert to linux, ok i'll download 7.04
[02:34] <ardchoille> !dual-boot
[02:38] <scotty> Okay, question. I click on Adept Manager, and it starts the loading process in the taskbar, but Adept doesn't launch.
[02:38] <scotty> What's wrong?
[02:38] <ardchoille> Oh great, we bored the bot to sleep
[02:38] <ardchoille> !fixadept
[02:40] <scotty> ardchoille: Okay, I figured that was the problem. I know the command, so no bot needed. Thanks, though
[02:40] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[02:40] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:40] <ardchoille> dumnut: There are two ways you can do this. You can dual boot Linux and windows, or you can wipe the hard drive and install ubuntu as your only os. Either way, it's always good advice to back up your personal files.
[02:40] <ardchoille> !install
[02:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[02:44] <BluesKaj> interesting to browse on MS sites with konq ...it's kinda funny
[02:44] <scotty> Heh
[02:44] <clouder> NickPresta: I took out those wacoms, and the devices errors went away, but displayconfig still crashes, just without shouting about bad inputs.
[02:45] <BluesKaj> clouder , i noticed you're using 'ati" drivers rather than 'fglrx' ...just curious , why ?
[02:45] <clouder> no reason
[02:45] <clouder> :X
[02:45] <zb-user01> can somebody help me?
[02:45] <clouder> would things have a chance of acting nicer if I use fglrx?
[02:45] <zb-user01> i need to edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' but i do'nt know how to do it
[02:45] <ace_suares> zb-user01: howdy
[02:45] <ace_suares> zb-user01: use an editor
[02:45] <ace_suares> !editor
[02:45] <BluesKaj> I thought that the fglrx driver might provide more flexiblity than the generixc ati
[02:45] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[02:45] <zb-user01> i've used vi
[02:45] <zb-user01> but it doesn't work
[02:45] <clouder> BluesKaj: alright, I'll give it a shot
[02:45] <ace_suares> if you are in kubuntu, please make yourself happy and use Kate.
[02:45] <ardchoille> zb-user01: To start with, open a terminal and run:  sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[02:45] <ace_suares> You need to be root tough, for that particulat file
[02:46] <ace_suares> ardchoille: okay, take over :-) and it's really good that you make a backup befor you edit that file!
[02:46] <ace_suares> anyway I came here for some other reason: those constant OO crashes.
[02:46] <ace_suares> Anyone else experiencing them ?
[02:46] <ace_suares> see also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/117480
[02:47] <zb-user01> i don't know how to be root :S installation never ask me to set a password for it :S
[02:47] <ardchoille> !sudo | zb-user01
[02:49] <ubotu> zb-user01: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:49] <ardchoille> zb-user01: You should read that before going any further.
[02:49] <zb-user01> ahh ok
[02:49] <zb-user01> i know that
[02:49] <zb-user01> i've got the copy of the file, now what?
[02:49] <ardchoille> You need to start up a text editor in sudo mode, then load that file and edit it.
[02:50] <zb-user01> i tried 'vi' but i think it didn't work
[02:50] <ardchoille> sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:50] <zb-user01> or maybe i don't understand how to use ir correctly
[02:51] <clouder> zb-user01: vi has a steep learning curve, try nano
[02:52] <zb-user01> wow! i think nano worked :D
[02:53] <zb-user01> to change the default OS seleceted is the line: chainloader, right?
[03:03] <epimeth> ahoy!
[03:03] <epimeth> !ahoy
[03:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ahoy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <epimeth> anybody home?
[03:19] <singinmatt13> i guess i'm here.  why
[03:19] <epimeth> dunno... kinda bored
[03:19] <epimeth> and considering its 4 am, nobody is on the ubuntu-il channel
[03:19] <zb-user01> i've get it!!! thanks :)
[03:19] <Kprofthreat> No you don't.
[03:19] <Kprofthreat> =P
[03:19] <zb-user01> xD
[03:19] <zb-user01> other thing...
[03:19] <zb-user01> do somebody knows how to install gaim, or... now pidgin ?
[03:19] <epimeth> zb-user01: why gaim? whats wrong with kopete?
[03:19] <zb-user01> it is not working quickly :(
[03:19] <schpenke_> epimeth: And you cannot block users which is why I switched back to GAIM.
[03:19] <epimeth> mmm
[03:19] <epimeth> didn't realize that
[03:19] <epimeth> I'm just not one to block users  :-)\
[03:19] <MarcC> I see a message about sda5 every time I shut down - is there a way to view the problem in a startup log somewhere without turning my machine off?
[03:19] <singinmatt13> zb-user01, get the .deb from getdeb.net
[03:19] <MarcC> I think the message occurs at startup but I can only see it when I shut down
[03:19] <zb-user01> i've got it... i've tried many thigs, but always is a problem
[03:19] <zb-user01> some librarys i think
[03:19] <epimeth> MarcC: dmesg
[03:19] <epimeth> MarcC: it shows you all the startup messages
[03:19] <julien> hey someone here who could help me?
[03:19] <zb-user01> but if i try 'apt-get' it says that is not allow or something
[03:19] <epimeth> !ask | julien
[03:19] <ubotu> julien: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:19] <julien> :D
[03:23] <julien> well, i just installed ati-driver via "envy" and then beryl
[03:23] <julien> but it doesn't work somehow...
[03:23] <singinmatt13> yeah, there're some weird dependencies.
[03:23] <singinmatt13> zb-user01, try installing it once then do sudo apt-get -f install in konsole
[03:31] <MarcC> how do I grep for "sda5" in /var/log/messages?
[03:31] <zb-user01> i thick i tried too xD
[03:31] <zb-user01> think*
[03:31] <epimeth> grep sda5 /var/log/messages
[03:31] <epimeth> nice and simple, eh MarcC
[03:31] <epimeth> ?
[03:31] <epimeth> :-)
[03:31] <singinmatt13> zb-user01: did you sudo?
[03:31] <epimeth> julien: what doesn't work?
[03:31] <julien> if i type glxinfo its getting me an error-message >_>
[03:31] <zb-user01> yeah
[03:31] <julien> i cant even set beryl as windowmanager
[03:31] <epimeth> julien: ahhh... sorry amigo, but I'm not experienced enough with graphics to be able to help... stick around, someone will probably be able to help you. also, try #ubuntu-graphics (I think...)
[03:33] <singinmatt13> and have you closed adept, apt, dpkg and all such programs?
[03:33] <julien> oh thnx
[03:33] <epimeth> julien: nope... thats not the channel
[03:33] <julien> oh
[03:33] <epimeth> julien: I'll try to remember and let you know
[03:33] <zb-user01> well, somehow it is working now
[03:35] <julien> ^^ do so :)
[03:35] <CrunchyFerrett> Sweet! WiFi access at the laundrymat
[03:35] <singinmatt13> zb-user01: good
[03:35] <zb-user01> i think some time ago (when i tried) the server were down :s
[03:35] <zb-user01> well i don't know to mucho about it, i just think xD
[03:35] <singinmatt13> julien, what's envy
[03:35] <julien> its for installing driver
[03:35] <julien> ati and nvidia
[03:35] <epimeth> singinmatt13: its an absolete nvidia driver
[03:35] <julien> its easier than normal install way
[03:35] <epimeth> singinmatt13: eNVy :-)
[03:35] <epimeth> singinmatt13: or 'en' 'vee' :=_
[03:35] <singinmatt13> nice
[03:35] <julien> i don think nvidia is THAT great :D
[03:35] <julien> i have made good experiences with ati^^
[03:35] <singinmatt13> last time I tried to install ati/beryl i had to reinstall because python screwed me over and removed everything that depended on it
[03:35] <julien> lol
[03:35] <julien> ehm do i have python etc with feisty fawn?!
[03:35] <julien> mebbe beryl doesn work because of missing basic-apps
[03:35] <zb-user01> now i'd like to install mozilla firefox (or now iceweasel i think), can somebody tell me how to do it?
[03:35] <julien> ehm you go to mozilla.org
[03:35] <zb-user01> or well, more specific, how to know wich pakages can i get by apt-get?
[03:35] <tucci> can someone help me make compiz fusion on by default? It worked after I installed it but now I can't turn it back on
[03:35] <julien> you know how to configure compiz\beryl?! cooool^^
[03:35] <zb-user01> beryl... i installed it once in ubuntu
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> Speaking of Beryl...
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> Compiz Fusion actually.
[03:35] <zb-user01> but i can't to see the 3d cube xD
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> I'm trying to create a session for it so it will start up in said session. Kubuntu btw. How would I go about that?
[03:35] <julien> try with: lns -s /"directory of compiz" -/ .kde/Autostart/compiz
[03:35] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to get googletalk voice calls?
[03:35] <zb-user01> well, i couldn't (sorry, my english is not too good)
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> That directed to me?
[03:35] <julien> well i've got beryl, but doeasn work
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> Kprofthreat- you mean have Compiz start when you login?
[03:35] <julien> no for tucci
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> Dragnslcr: Si, senor.
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> Kprofthreat- try something like this in a shell script: /usr/bin/compiz.real --loose-binding --ignore-desktop-hints --sm-disable --replace ccp &
[03:35] <julien> hm...why doesn my driver work....damnit!
[03:35] <tucci> julien: thanks anyway
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> Mmkay.
[03:35] <julien> was me a pleasure :D
[03:35] <Kprofthreat> You were a pleasure???
[03:35] <julien> :)
[03:35] <julien> no >_>
[03:35] <julien> you read to much between the lines
[03:35] <zb-user01> how to know wich pakages can i get by apt-get? or how to see the list available, or something like that??
[03:35] <juhorner25> Hi, I just turned on my pc and my screen resolution is 640x480, what happened?
[03:35] <Dragnslcr> zb-user01- open Adept and look
[03:35] <juhorner25> If anybody can help please let me know
[03:35] <scotty_> juhorner25: Did you update anything before you restarted your computer?
[03:35] <juhorner25> No, I didn't do any updates
[03:35] <juhorner25> I did download Open Area
[03:35] <juhorner25> The game
[03:35] <zb-user01> Adept is the interface to install programs, rigth?
[03:35] <singinmatt13> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[03:35] <julien> yesch
[03:35] <scotty_> zb-user01: It's a package manager, yes
[03:35] <zb-user01> ahh ok :)
[03:35] <scotty_> juhorner25: Either way, System Settings > Monitor & Display and you can adjust your resolution.
[03:35] <ardchoille> !info mozilla-firefox
[03:35] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+1-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 57 kB, installed size 116 kB
[03:35] <juhorner25> It will not let me
[03:35] <julien> in opensuse it was sax2 :-)
[03:35] <juhorner25> I tried that
[03:35] <juhorner25> The max is 640*480 now
[03:35] <scotty> juhorner25: Did you try going into administrator mode first?
[03:35] <scotty> Ah
[03:35] <juhorner25> Yeah
[03:35] <juhorner25> but it still has my video card set right under hardware
[03:36] <singinmatt13> i prefer it
[03:36] <singinmatt13> wow........that was a bit late
[03:37] <julien> could it be, that my ati-driver don work because i installed kubuntu via wubi?!
[03:38] <SmurfSlayer> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com still down?
[03:38] <julien> smurfslayer <-----dunno...ask the owners ;-)
[03:39] <WaxyFres1> hi when i hold mouse over my battery icon it shows my 2 processors are running at 800mhz why arnt they running at there full speed?
[03:39] <singinmatt13> WaxyFres1, because you don't need them to right now.  Plus that thing is not correct sometimes
[03:39] <CrunchyFerrett> WaxyFres1: CPU scaling. You can change it by right clicking the battery and selecting "Performance"
[03:40] <SmurfSlayer> This command : sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  yields this : 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  and nothing ever happens... It's been this way since yesterday...  It times out after awhile...
[03:41] <julien> good nite evry1....I'm goin to sleep
[03:41] <CrunchyFerrett> <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:41] <SmurfSlayer> Is there any other way to get java installed  for my Firefox?
[03:41] <CrunchyFerrett> Is that what your systems thinks is the IP for us.ubuntu.blah
[03:41] <omega_point> Hi... I have a little doubt: When I'm not using Beryl, I can get the task bar to only show the applications that are running on a certain desktop, but when I switch Beryl on, the task bar show every application on every desktop... any way around this?
[03:41] <SmurfSlayer> Apparently...  But if I ping the name it resolves...
[03:42] <CrunchyFerrett> check your sources.list
[03:42] <SmurfSlayer> It pings out to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:43] <CrunchyFerrett> have you run 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[03:43] <SmurfSlayer> Where is that?
[03:43] <WaxyFres1> CrunchyFerrett: thanks ive got my full dual 1600mhz now :) but does changing it from dynamic to performance make that much of a diffrence?
[03:43] <WaxyFres1> is there a way to benchmark a ubuntu pc?
[03:44] <CrunchyFerrett> WaxyFres1: It just puts your processor in an "on-demand" phase, only going full power when it needs too.
[03:44] <SmurfSlayer> CrunchyFerrett...  The update thing got it working!  How do you know when you have to do the update?
[03:44] <CrunchyFerrett> SmurfSlayer: Do it everytime.
[03:44] <CrunchyFerrett> Period.
[03:44] <doadmin> hi
[03:44] <SmurfSlayer> CF - That's an answer I can do...  :-)
[03:44] <doadmin> just installed this
[03:45] <omega_point> Hi... I have a little doubt: When I'm not using Beryl, I can get the task bar to only show the applications that are running on a certain desktop, but when I switch Beryl on, the task bar show every application on every desktop... any way around this?
[03:45] <SmurfSlayer> doadmin, what?
[03:45] <CrunchyFerrett> Laundry is done! Going home. Back in a bit
[03:45] <SmurfSlayer> doadmin, what did you just install?
[03:46] <rustalot> omega_point: try doing 'configre' on the window list
[03:47] <rustalot> omega_point: when you mouse over it a litte thing will appear at the end
[03:47] <WaxyFres1> how can i tell where compiz is installed to?
[03:48] <omega_point> I don't understand what you mean by "doing configure on the window list"
[03:48] <rustalot> omega_point: when you mouse over, a little bar appears at the end ( the 'taskbar handle' )
[03:49] <omega_point> yes
[03:49] <rustalot> omegapoint: click the little down arrow
[03:49] <omega_point> then?
[03:50] <rustalot> then do 'configure Taskbar'
[03:50] <rustalot> then select "Taskbar" from the side panel
[03:50] <omega_point> ok
[03:51] <rustalot> and then try " Sort windows by desktop"
[03:52] <omega_point> There's no such an option
[03:53] <juhorner25> Can anybody help me figure out why my resolution just dropped to 640*480
[03:53] <juhorner25> It's stuck on it
[03:53] <juhorner25> yet it knows what my video card is
[03:53] <omega_point> There's: sort alphabetically, only show minimized, shor application's icons and a few more... maybe not THAT exactly cause I'm using it i Spanish
[03:53] <omega_point> but there's no equivalent
[03:54] <SmurfSlayer> What does it mean when you run ADEPT Packaage manager and when you try to install something it says "Waiting for Headers (0%)" at the bottom and nothing ever happens?
[03:54] <jonathan__> hello everyone
[03:54] <SmurfSlayer> Hi jonathan
[03:54] <rustalot> omega_point: I don't really know. I'd think it would be equivalent, but it looks like it isn't.
[03:54] <jonathan__> i am total new to this OS ubuntu
[03:55] <jonathan__> really cool through
[03:56] <omega_point> My options are: "sort alphabetically", "show only minimized windows", "show application icons", and I have options about the mouse's buttons and a few other things, but not the one you said
[03:57] <omega_point> Ha!!!!!! when I switch to KWin that option appears!!!
[03:57] <scotty> jonathan__: Indeed. Need help with anything or just commenting on the awesomeness?
[03:57] <omega_point> It disappears when I star Beryl
[03:58] <jonathan__> the awwsomeness thx for asking
[03:59] <jonathan__> yes i do have a question what OS should i use to host  a web site from? Linux,Windows?
[04:00] <omega_point> well thanks anyway
[04:00] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Have a look at what the legal licensing for Windows is going to cost you, then consider spending that instead on developing an ongoing relationship with a serious linux pro.
[04:00] <jonathan__> o legal yea lots
[04:00] <NickPresta> jonathan__, a GNU+Linux distribution makes server management a breeze. It can also sustain long uptimes without any problems (as can Windows but Linux seems more popular for this).
[04:00] <jhutchins> jonathan__: In the first case, it goes to Microsoft.
[04:01] <jhutchins> jonathan__: In the second case, you end up with something of value, an intelectual rescource that's yours for as long as you maintain it.
[04:01] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Linux is generally believed to be more secure, although Windows can be secured.
[04:02] <jonathan__> What version of Linux? Trustix?
[04:02] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Linux can also be managed entirely via text (terminal), giving more control and greater flexibility.
[04:02] <rustalot> try either Debian or RedHat
[04:02] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Right now my current favorite candidate is ubuntu lts.
[04:02] <jhutchins> jonathan__: What you don't want is a distro that's a GREAT _desktop_ distro.
[04:02] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to make the system tray display two rows of icons when the kicker width is "normal"?
[04:02] <secleinteer> it currently looks like this: http://image.bayimg.com/la/dg/ma/ab/j.jpg
[04:03] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Many of the distros intended for servers have subscription-based support, and can be pretty expensive.
[04:03] <jhutchins> jonathan__: debian is probably the most used free ($) distro.
[04:03] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Very stable, good long-term support.
[04:04] <CrunchyLaptop> Im using Kubuntu on this laptop.
[04:04] <jonathan__> i have Debian but not installed? And i have the free version of Redhat Fedora
[04:04] <jhutchins> jonathan__: What you definitely don't want is something like Fedora that goes obsolete in six months and can't be upgraded.
[04:04] <CrunchyLaptop> took a bit to get the kinks worked out, but its pretty good now
[04:04] <jonathan__> not installed
[04:04] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Seriously, even fedora people will tell you not fedora for a server.
[04:05] <jhutchins> jonathan__: Some like gentoo, but it means constant, pretty much daily updates, and I don't think even that will give you long-term viability.  It's a mess.
[04:05] <jonathan__> lol i will take all your asvise this is my first time with Linux
[04:05] <jhutchins> jonathan__: If you're maintaining a server farm, it gives you some extra control and abilities, but not worth it for the individual.
[04:06] <jhutchins> jonathan__: This is something I've thought a lot about, I maintain linux (web)servers for a living.  I have two gentoo boxes that are a disaster and I need to convert them to something current.  The last distro I was really happy with for servers was RH7.3.
[04:06] <jonathan__> yea i am going to most likely pay embarq to make my ip open  so i can host . as long as a i get it secured
[04:07] <jhutchins> jonathan__: If you're serious, you'd be better off renting space at a co-location provider (they usually offer space on an existing server as well).
[04:08] <jonathan__> yea i have found one place that seems really cool ... 500 GB disk room 5000 bandwith
[04:08] <jonathan__> $ 5.95
[04:09] <rustalot> read this:  http://worsethanfailure.com/Articles/Im-Sure-You-Can-Deal.aspx
[04:12] <jonathan__> can i set up a private IRC server on this pc and have it bewteen 2 to 3 computers?
[04:12] <jonathan__> where us 2 to 3 computer owner can talk?
[04:13] <mboso_> If I want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu do I need to change anything in my source.list file? or is it just a matter of remove my ubuntu-desktop and install kubuntu desktop?
[04:13] <jack-> of course, although for 2-3 people i'd call that overkill
[04:13] <jack-> jonathan__
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> mboso_: nope
[04:13] <WaxyFresh> hi how can i check to see which version of xorg im running?
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> mboso_: they both use the same repos
[04:13] <ardchoille> mboso_: It's just a matter of: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <jonathan__> i am 16 yrs old and i am in this for the knowledge
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> WaxyFresh: dpkg -l | grep xorg should work
[04:14] <mboso_> hitmanWilly: is there anything wrong with running kubuntu-desktop without uninstalling kubuntu-desktop?
[04:15] <mboso_> will it cause any conflicts?
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> mboso_: nope
[04:15] <mboso_> nice.
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> mboso_: it shouldn't
[04:15] <ardchoille> mboso_: Lots of folks ru gnome apps in kde and kde apps in gnome, doesn't cause any problems.
[04:15] <mboso_> I want to switch once 4.0 comes out
[04:15] <david__> firefox has just started giving me issues in Gutsy. Anyone else having problems?
[04:15] <ardchoille> windowmaker is sweet
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> yes, yes it is
[04:16] <david__> ** Anyone running Gutsy?
[04:17] <ardchoille> david__: You might wanna join #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <ardchoille> That is the support channel for Gutsy now
[04:17] <david__> Coll thanks!!!!
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> is there a way to find something i cut/pasted a few cuts/pastes back?
[04:31] <BluesKaj> WaxyFresh, use Knotes
[04:33] <goofey> any idea where I find "System->Administration->Restricted Drivers Manager" and "System->Preferences->Desktop Effects" in kubuntu 7.04?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> goofey: those are gnome apps
[04:33] <goofey> is there an equivelant in kde?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> not that i know of
[04:34] <goofey> ok - thanks - i'm a bit sxurprised - it seems more like an ubuntu app than a gnome app to me
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> goofey: the restricted manager is an ubuntu app, but its set up for gnome
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> goofey: and desktop effects is gnome integrating with compiz
[04:38] <goofey> hitmanWilly: ahh, i see now - that makes sense.  I'll get one ubuntu-effects and get compiz fusion going - thanks!
[04:38] <goofey> er, on ubuntu-effects
[04:41] <klobster> I switched my icons to crux, and now it lost the icons for several other items, even after switching back.  how do I fix it?
[04:46] <CrunchyLaptop> crux?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> its an icon theme
[04:52] <stealthy> hey, what's the official button name for middlemouse?
[04:52] <stealthy> trying to bind something to it on fusion
[04:52] <hitmanWilly> stealthy: usually button 3
[04:53] <stealthy> just 'button 3'?
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> or whatever it calls the first two buttons, except with a 3
[04:54] <stealthy> doesn't really help much
[04:54] <stealthy> thanks though
[04:54] <stealthy> will trial and error
[04:55] <klobster> I am missing icons: konversation, ktorrent, adept-notify, and about 2/3 of the system settings icons, and Kmenu (the menu button icon)11  How can I fix this??
[04:55] <BluesKaj> install kde ?
[04:56] <klobster> reinstall?
[04:56] <BluesKaj> sorry klobster I couldn't resist
[04:56] <BluesKaj> joke
[04:57] <klobster> 'salright, most people don't knotice; KDE put the K in Klobster ^_^
[04:57] <BluesKaj> klobster, do a ' dpkg -l ' to see if they're still actually installed
[04:57] <stealthy> hitmanWilly: Button2
[04:58] <klobster> BluesKaj: any specific package to grep for?
[05:00] <BluesKaj> just check the K-ones\ that you think are missing
[05:03] <BluesKaj> sacktime for these old bones ... later
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> stealthy: hmm, usually its mapped to 3, that's weird
[05:03] <klobster> doh!
[05:04] <Admiral4321> how can i enable the fglrx driver in kubuntu? setting it in xorg.conf to "fglrx" reports module not found
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> stealthy: unless of course it starts at 0 :)
[05:05] <stealthy> no idea
[05:06] <Admiral4321> lol never mind, got the gui via "restricted-manager" at the command line =)
[05:07] <klobster> anyone else who can help with my icon issue? I know they are installed; I can see them if I go in to edit one for a desktop icon...
[05:13] <dr_willis> hmmm
[05:17] <Carnage\> I have a user A that is not in the admin group, i.e. is not allowed to use sudo. Another user B is admin. Is there an easy way how I can run a GUI-program out of KDE-session of user A with root-privileges?
[05:19] <Macrosoft> hey, anyone know the name of that app that is like the mac os dashboard, but for linux?
[05:19] <dr_willis> Macrosoft,  several of them.. they all SUCK.
[05:19] <dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <Macrosoft> ah
[05:20] <dr_willis> i recall a site that showed how to tweak kde and the normal panel to look like ox-s
[05:20] <dr_willis> using the normal tools
[05:20] <Macrosoft> dr_willis: hey, guess what the priest said when he tried to exorcise a demon on his linux box
[05:20] <tine> how can i translate gcc compiling errors in french ?
[05:21] <dr_willis> tine,  bablefish web site?
[05:22] <tine> gcc doest include a locales package ?
[05:24] <SmurfSlayer> Macrosoft, what?
[05:25] <gon> !climate
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about climate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:25] <gon> weather
[05:25] <gon> !weather
[05:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weather - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <SmurfSlayer> Macrosoft?
[05:43] <dev_null> i have a bash script I put into a file, how do I make the file executable?
[05:44] <dr_willis> bash fundamentals
[05:44] <dr_willis> chmod +x whatever
[05:44] <dr_willis> may want to check out a few bash starter guides. and the advanced bash scripting guide
[05:45] <dev_null> ok thanks
[05:46] <kane> hey, so in my KDE apps they seemed to have stopped showing actual files
[05:46] <kane> just folders
[05:46] <kane> is that not bizarre?
[05:47] <stoned> you know
[05:47] <lamlurkey> how do i delet a folder that says access denied?
[05:47] <stoned> I always wanted to grow up and be a gui toolkit
[05:47] <stoned> or a modem
[05:48] <bldzr> lamlurkey: You probably need to set the proper permissions
[05:48] <Macrosoft> SmurfSlayer: sorry, i was away, you called
[05:48] <Macrosoft> ?
[05:49] <lamlurkey> where do i do that?
[05:49] <bldzr> Well, you can open a terminal and do a 'sudo chown -R your_username foldername'
[05:49] <bldzr> or just delete it using sudo
[05:50] <bldzr> But make sure that it isn't something vital that you're removing
[05:50] <lamlurkey> no its a folder i was trying to share with windows
[05:50] <bldzr> lamlurkey: You should read some beginner tutorials imo :)
[05:50] <bldzr> It's boring, but really helpful =)
[05:51] <stoned> folder sharing
[05:51] <stoned> trivial
[05:51] <Macrosoft> SmurfSlayer: you still here?
[05:51] <stoned> aptitude install samba && sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[05:51] <lamlurkey> the permissions are greyed out
[05:51] <bldzr> stoned: He's trying to remove the folder :)
[05:52] <stoned> after you modify the file, in which you should only really need to change the workgroup and add a share, sudo smbpasswd -a username
[05:52] <stoned> enter password twice, /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:52] <stoned> you're done wait remove folder?
[05:52] <stoned> so remove the share from smb.conf
[05:52] <lamlurkey> yes
[05:53] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[05:53] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[05:54] <dr_willis> :) for 2 books on samba and its ussage
[06:00] <hitmanWilly> the funny thing is windows could implement nfs relatively easily, the whole TCP/IP stack on it is a straight rip from BSD
[06:03] <theurs> is there transmission pkg in kubuntu repository??
[06:03] <dr_willis> !find transmission
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> theurs: transmission of what?
[06:03] <ubotu> Package/file transmission does not exist in feisty
[06:04] <dr_willis> aparently not.
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> oh, the app is called transmission, got it :)
[06:08] <dr_willis> Hmm
[06:08] <dr_willis> !easysource
[06:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: break something :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> easier to remake it that way then to add all the -src stuff i need. :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> seems several of the repos are down today?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> gotcha
[06:09] <dr_willis> or has anyone else noticed that?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: hold on, lemme check
[06:10] <hitmanWilly> seem fine to me, apt-get update worked alright
[06:10] <dr_willis> Im getting a lot of ign/err/ stuff...
[06:11] <dr_willis> Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com feisty Release
[06:11] <dr_willis> apt-get source ffmpeg  - is giving me some odd.. message.
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> ok, that one does seem to be down, i just pinged it unsuccessfully
[06:13] <dr_willis> trying to figure out why i can use ffmpeg to convert some flv's to avi.. but not others.
[06:13] <dr_willis> differnet flv versions i guess
[06:14] <dr_willis> guess i compile ffmpeg for this user. :) not system wide lik ei was going to do
[06:16] <dr_willis> doh - i thinki just upgraded to the lastest release of KDE. :) heh .. oh well..
[06:17] <dr_willis> 3.5.7 it is then!
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: heh, still have 3.5.5 on this box :)
[06:19] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: or at least parts of it
[06:20] <fragility> kubuntu will work on the live cd then only install to 70 percent or so, then restart (like a normal shutdown after installing) and then says Grub error 15
[06:20] <fragility> I cant find anyone with the same problem, the computer is having other issues, but can install ubuntu just fine
[06:20] <hitmanWilly> fragility: sounds like grub didn't install properly
[06:21] <fragility> but I reformatted and tried again, deleted the partitions and tried again
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> fragility: either that or the kernel never installed
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> fragility: what other issues, btw?
[06:21] <fragility> I tried to make it have a root partition and a partition for my media files, and it kept tryingto put data on both, so I left it as a 20 gig partition and free space
[06:22] <fragility> still did the same thing, and the thing is it restarts 70% or so into installing
[06:22] <fragility> various weird issues, browsers working very poorly, sound quality going out when resources are being used
[06:22] <fragility> having tons of trouble getting help
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> fragility: try running a memtest
[06:23] <fragility> all on ubuntu though, when i started having problems, it kept seeming like how people explained things they would be a lot easier to fix on Kopete
[06:23] <dr_willis> Kopete?
[06:23] <fragility> I did run a memtest and it went through 7 tests in the course of 3 hours without a single error
[06:23] <fragility> from an install cd
[06:23] <fragility> oops, I dont know wher ethat came from I mean KDE
[06:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> fragility: did you test the install medium?
[06:23] <LeeJunFan> what about MD5 checking the CD?
[06:24] <fragility> also, most of the software I realize I like seems to be native to kde
[06:24] <fragility> well, I tested the cds integrity, and I can install ubuntu off of a live cd on the computer
[06:24] <dr_willis> i alwyas install kubuntu and ubuntu desktops :)
[06:24] <fragility> didnt md5 check it, but the live cd works fabulously
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> fragility: it sounds like it may be a pci issue with the bios/mobo
[06:25] <fragility> same thing with ubuntu, works way better off of the live cd, I reinstalled it and ubuntu works WAY worse than before
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> or just the mobo may not be completely supported
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> fragility: hdd going bad?
[06:25] <dr_willis> whats scary.. as far as live cd's go.. the ubuntu live cd - isent that special.. :)
[06:25] <fragility> I had an hd issue before, but I replaced the hdd, and it started working
[06:26] <fragility> it worked really well briefly but still had some problems
[06:26] <juhorner25> Hey guys, this may be crazy but do you have any idea why my login screen would be like 600*480 but then after I login my desktop is at my normal resolution
[06:26] <fragility> I got an hdd out of another computer and it was going way faster for me, because my other hd was amost certanly going dead
[06:26] <fragility> but this is a toshiba and they dont release hardware to test their hdds
[06:26] <dr_willis> juhorner25,  each user can set up their own resolution under kde.
[06:26] <dr_willis> juhorner25,  but i forget how. :) so it may be the users have a higher res set.
[06:27] <juhorner25> Oh. ok
[06:27] <juhorner25> Well I can't figure out how to change the resolution of the login screen
[06:27] <juhorner25> Would it been in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[06:27] <dr_willis> Yes. it may be using the first res listed.
[06:27] <dr_willis> Never really messed with it.
[06:28] <fragility> and my mobo is a centrino with intel 82081 or something like that hardware which ubuntu reads all of automatically
[06:28] <fragility> but, the one thing that maks me convinced I have a bio issue
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> fragility: hmm, don't know what to tell you, hardware issues (which this sounds like it probably is) are really hard to diagnose remotely
[06:28] <dr_willis> ive had flakey linux systems/hardware.. then bam..next kernel release.. fixes it all.
[06:28] <dr_willis> :)
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> fragility: can you flash the bios with a newer version?
[06:28] <fragility> is that on windows it kept showing two video cards and two monitors (on a notebook)
[06:29] <dr_willis> had a bios upgrade make a sstem go from unuseable under linux to working great also.
[06:29] <fragility> identical and then i reformatted, and was appalled when i turned on linux and it showed multiple video cards aso
[06:29] <hitmanWilly> normally id on't reccomend doing that, but sometimes it actually does help
[06:29] <fragility> because I tried to uninstall them both on windows and when i restarted it read two new identical cards at once
[06:30] <fragility> how would I go about flashing my bios? unfortunately this computer gives me very few bios settings
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> !bios
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <juhorner25> I have two monitor sections in the xorg file, maybe it is trying access the secondary while at the login and then switches to my primary
[06:31] <juhorner25> Because my primary monitor is the one that has my video card and all set
[06:31] <fragility> I've never wanted to flash a bios because it always seemed really risky, but when I have brought it up with people no one seemed to really consider it
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> ok, go to toshiba's web site, and follow the instructions on there
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> fragility: it changes depending on the manufacturer/model
[06:31] <dewitt> juhorner25: i have same resolution problem, when i started up.
[06:32] <fragility> thats just my hard drive, my notebook is a systemax
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> fragility: ok, well try that site then :)
[06:32] <fragility> I'm going to restart and check the name and edition of bios, I will be back in here
[06:32] <juhorner25> dewitt: The only thing I can figure out is the login screen defaults to my secondary monitor
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> k
[06:32] <juhorner25> dewitt: because it is set to 640*480
[06:33] <fragility> THANKS for the help, ts been VERY hard to get any help in forums or the chat
[06:33] <dr_willis> fragility,  i think ive only flashed 2  bios's my whole life. :)
[06:33] <dr_willis> One in my laptop.. one in a old desktop.
[06:34] <dr_willis> both to fix linux issues
[06:34] <hitmanWilly> i did it on this mobo after i first got it, haven't touched it since
[06:35] <juhorner25> in the xorg.conf file, is the section "screen" referring to the login screen?
[06:35] <juhorner25> Because this has modes set as "640*480"
[06:36] <bldzr> I don't think so :)
[06:36] <dr_willis> the login screen is just a normal screen
[06:36] <dr_willis> 'screen' does NOT mean anything special about the login screen
[06:36] <dr_willis> its just the name of the default screen
[06:36] <juhorner25> Okay, just checking
[06:36] <dr_willis> you could remove the 640*480 mode entries
[06:36] <juhorner25> I can't find anything else in here about it
[06:37] <dr_willis> There NOTHING in xorg.conf about the login screen.
[06:37] <juhorner25> Okay
[06:37] <dr_willis> the login screen is just another normal X session.
[06:37] <juhorner25> Yet it doesn't display the right resolution
[06:37] <dr_willis> Now ther Might be some kdm special settings in the kdm configs..
[06:38] <juhorner25> Alright I will check
[06:38] <dr_willis> juhorner25,  its displaying what res it thinks it should.
[06:38] <dr_willis> which MAY be defaulting to that first entry of 640x480
[06:38] <dr_willis>  Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[06:38] <juhorner25> The second I login though the next screen displays the right resolution
[06:38] <dr_willis> i THINK that my kdm uses the first entry there.. 1280x whatever...
[06:39] <dr_willis> juhorner25,  as i said.. a USER can change their own personal resolutions.
[06:39] <dr_willis> My wife  coudl be using 800x600 when she logs in. i can be using 1280x whatever
[06:39] <dr_willis> !info kxrand
[06:39] <ubotu> Package kxrand does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:39] <dr_willis> !info kxrandr
[06:39] <ubotu> Package kxrandr does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> normally, the res for kde is controlled by the individual user acct with any of the values from xorg.conf, while kdm just uses xorg.conf IIRC
[06:39] <dr_willis> !find  xrand
[06:39] <ubotu> Found: libxrandr-dev, libxrandr2, libxrandr2-dbg, xrandr
[06:40] <dr_willis> !find xrandr
[06:40] <dr_willis> Hmm what was that kde app that changes the res on the fly.
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: its in kcontrol is all i know :)
[06:40] <dr_willis> theres a system tray applet also. :)
[06:42] <dr_willis> It may be the order of the Modes are whats affecting your kdm, and users differently
[06:44] <klobster> juhorner25: my system did the same for a bit, than it fixed itself when I changed something in sysytem settings>Advanced> login manager.  (I don't think it was important what i changed, just that i changed something)
[06:45] <klobster> so my a large portion of my icons are being replaced with the notepaper icon, but I cant figure out why...?
[06:46] <dr_willis> ive noticed that often the gnome and kde icon themes get shown under the icon theme selection..
[06:46] <dr_willis> selecting a gnome icon theme can cause issues..
[06:46] <juhorner25> Thanks for the help dr_willis, I've been checking some things online to see what could have happen
[06:46] <juhorner25> Today I turned on my pc and everything was 640*480
[06:46] <juhorner25> I managed to fix it after the login screen though
[06:46] <juhorner25> Not sure what I did to mess it up, that's the odd thing
[06:47] <dr_willis> juhorner25,  try booting some of the older kernels..
[06:47] <juhorner25> Yeah I think thats what fixed it after the login
[06:47] <dr_willis> it may be a kernel update dident isntall the proper videocard drivers.. but that dont make much sence.
[06:47] <klobster> I tried to go back to a default icon setting, but it was a nogo.
[06:48] <klobster> OH! also, they apparantly work on my desktop, and in konq, but not in the system bar, or many menu bars, or the system settings window, or on kmenu...
[06:49] <dr_willis> klobster,  try a new user.. see if it affects them
[06:49] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:50] <netdaemon> is there a way to throttle apt-get's downloads?
[06:50] <level1> what should my performance be transferring files over usb2.0 to an external hard drive?
[06:51] <level1> maybe 100MB/s?
[07:11] <Tachyon> I'm dual booting Vista and Kubuntu.  What do I put in fstab so that I can mount my Vista partition with access to my user file? (my username is Ben and it has a password on it)
[07:11] <Tachyon> Right now it mounts Vista fine, but I can only access public folders
[07:20] <scotty> Tachyon: Did you try setting it to wumbo? :P
[07:31] <lego> Howdy everyone.
[07:31] <intelikey> :)
[07:32] <lego> I have installed Linux on my better system, and I have Windows 2000 Pro on my games PC.  Is it possible for both Linux and my other PC to share files?
[07:32] <lego> I already have sharing enabled and folders setup from my XP install/.
[07:32] <intelikey> !samba
[07:32] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:33] <lego> Thank you very much.
[07:34] <lego> Forgive a stupid question, but I thought I'd ask anyways.  Can I use any pic format as my desktop pic?  Example BMP in Linux?
[07:34] <intelikey> yes
[07:34] <intelikey> err  i think
[07:34] <lego> I'd like to use some pics I was using on my XP in Linux as the desktop pic.
[07:35] <intelikey> try it.
[07:35] <lego> Might be the normal jpg, but I think its bmp.
[07:35] <lego> Definately.
[07:35] <lego> I am off to read and learn.  lol
[07:37] <juhorner25> Any of you have Beryl?
[07:38] <intelikey> !beryl | juhorner25 they do in:
[07:38] <ubotu> juhorner25 they do in:: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:38] <scotty> My friend is dual booting Vista and Kubuntu.  What does put in fstab so that he can mount his Vista partition with access to his user file? (his username is Ben and it has a password on it)
[07:38] <scotty> Right now it mounts but he can only see the public files.
[07:38] <scotty> *does he
[07:46] <epimeth> good morning people!
[07:46] <epimeth> can anybody stream videos from stage6.divx.com?
[07:56] <michael_m> can someone help me with hard drive problem???
[07:57] <epimeth> michael_m: whats the problem?
[07:58] <lego> Does anyone play Penguin Command?
[07:58] <michael_m> epimeth: kubuntu runs fine on my laptop but i just installed it on my desktop and it sets up my hard drive as sda instead of hda. its an ide drive
[07:59] <michael_m> it seems to be causing a very slow boot
[07:59] <lego> I keep getting the same problem when I play.  Mouse ALWAYS wants to go to the top left and I can't play the game.
[07:59] <epimeth> michael_m: don't know anything about it booting slowly, but yes, ide drives are sda now
[07:59] <epimeth> been that way pretty much since feisty was released
[07:59] <epimeth> it has something to do with the new UUID thing
[08:00] <michael_m> epimeth: thanks for ur info. it just sits at like 1% for 2 minutes but once it gets past that it just rockets to the dektop
[08:00] <epimeth> lego: sorry, don't play it and I *really* have no idea when it comes to mice.  all I know is that mine works :-)
[08:00] <lego> lol
[08:00] <epimeth> michael_m: you sure its the sda thing?  could be something else.  check out dmesg
[08:00] <lego> I guess I will stick to the WORKIN Windows version until it can be fixed.
[08:00] <michael_m> ok
[08:01] <lego> No offense, but Windows, in my opinion, is much better.
[08:01] <michael_m> epimeth: im gonna switch to my desktop reall quick
[08:01] <epimeth> lego: none taken, but what do you mean by 'better' ?
[08:01] <epimeth> !better
[08:01] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:01] <epimeth> :-)
[08:02] <lego> Windows is easier to deal with, for one.  I guess I just need more experience handling Linux.
[08:02] <michael_m> epimeth: can u give me a link to the pastebin... sorry im kinda a noob
[08:02] <lego> Easier to install software/etc also
[08:03] <lego> Still haven't figured out the networking yet.
[08:03] <Gartra1> ummm... i cant connect to the servers to download anything
[08:03] <epimeth> Windows *is* easier to deal with... but so is a automatic transmition.  you get much better performance with a stickshift :-)
[08:03] <epimeth> !pastebin | michael_m
[08:03] <ubotu> michael_m: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:03] <lego> I will stick to an automatic trans, thank you.  lol
[08:03] <epimeth> Gartra1: what servers?  through what program?
[08:04] <Gartra1> kubuntus update servers
[08:04] <lego> Last time I handled a stickshift, it wasn't pretty.  lol
[08:04] <Gartra1> through adept
[08:04] <epimeth> lego: you're loss, amigo.  If I may, I would suggest you give it more of a go.  use windows for your games, but linux for everything else!
[08:04] <epimeth> lego: thats what I do :-)
[08:05] <lego> Well, right now that is my setup.
[08:05] <intelikey> lego .... "Windows is easier to deal with"  hmmm.   i think windows is easier to deal with also.   all i have to do to deal with windows is  cat /dev/zero > /dev/"the hd it's installed on"      and i've dealt with it.    </shrugs>
[08:05] <Gartra1> CEDEGA!
[08:05] <epimeth> Gartra1: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources,list
[08:05] <epimeth> ahoy amigo!
[08:05] <lego> I have 2 PC's here.  This one (XP/Linux) and Games (Win 2K)
[08:05] <intelikey> epimeth :)
[08:06] <epimeth> you're using 2K for games??? why???? *shudders*
[08:06] <lego> I try Linux for a bit, get fed up and go back to WIndows.  lol
[08:06] <lego> Why?  Well, I can't run XP.  Its 1Ghz, but only 128MB memory.
[08:06] <Gartra1> and pastebin servers are wear again?
[08:07] <lego> Some weid stink of memory.  Something called PC800
[08:07] <intelikey> Gartra1 all over the place.   pastebin.<your nl>
[08:07] <lego> Well, thats what BIOS says it is.
[08:07] <intelikey> Gartra1 see the topic also
[08:07] <epimeth> Gartra1: I *just* showed michael_m where it is
[08:08] <Gartra1> :P
[08:08] <intelikey> !topic
[08:08] <intelikey> !paste
[08:08] <epimeth> !pastebin
[08:08] <intelikey> bot !lag
[08:08] <epimeth> lol
[08:08] <Gartra1> bot !dead
[08:08] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[08:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:09] <michael_m> epimeth: it says im spamming the pastebin or something...lol. but in dmesg it says ata instead of ide. is that anything?
[08:09] <fritz> is there a new version of kubuntu?...i'm running kubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn..
[08:09] <intelikey> fritz not yet
[08:10] <lego> I think thats what I am running also.
[08:10] <lego> How do I find out?
[08:10] <intelikey> fritz & lego versioning is  year.month
[08:10] <epimeth> michael_m: hrm... you *sure* its ide?  lemme check mine
[08:10] <Shirakawasuna> might be in uname -a
[08:10] <lego> KDE Desktop 3.5.6
[08:10] <Shirakawasuna> not sure how kubuntu packages its kernel
[08:11] <Shirakawasuna> lego: probably check the updater and go to help
[08:11] <intelikey> what ?   are you looking for    lsb_release ?
[08:11] <michael_m> epimeth: yeah cause i had it in my modded xbox for a while. i know its ide
[08:12] <fritz> i wonder when are they going to add 3d effects to the kde env, cause my system is 2 slow 2 run beryl
[08:12] <intelikey> michael_m you mean like this    hda: ST31277A, ATA DISK drive
[08:12] <intelikey> hdb: Maxtor 82100D4, ATA DISK drive
[08:12] <intelikey> hdc: Maxtor 84320D4, ATA DISK drive
[08:13] <intelikey> no ata drives here mate.
[08:13] <intelikey> so if that's all that concerns you, forget it.
[08:13] <epimeth> fritz: is you're system is too slow for beryl it will be too slow for 3d effects in kde....
[08:14] <Gartra1> epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29327/ <there
[08:15] <intelikey> Gartra1 no universe repos ?
[08:15] <intelikey> !repos | Gartra1
[08:15] <ubotu> Gartra1: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:15] <lego> Which is better for doing installs/updates "KPackage" "adept"?
[08:16] <Gartra1> i should have them in
[08:16] <michael_m> epimeth: i think this is mine SCSI device sda: 390721968 512-byte hdwr sectors (200050 MB)
[08:17] <intelikey> michael_m yeah that's scsi emulation for the ide disk right ?
[08:17] <michael_m> epimeth: im clueless too what u mean
[08:18] <epimeth> michael_m: talk to intelikey, not me... he seems to know much better than me :-)
[08:18] <michael_m> oh oops sorry
[08:18] <epimeth> Gartra1: your sources.list seem to be in order... have you tried pinging us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[08:19] <epimeth> lego... didn't we just discuss the word "better" ?  its whatever you find more comfortable to use.  I personally use apt-get, aptitude, or adept.  it depends on what mood I'm in
[08:20] <Gartra1> just did, and its there
[08:20] <epimeth> Gartra1: hmmm... have you tried apt-get update ?
[08:20] <michael_m> intelikey: how do i enable javascript so i can use the pastebin. i need u to look a my dmesg cause im clueless
[08:21] <intelikey> michael_m beginning in 7.04 ubuntu uses scsi emulation so that all disks show as scsi disks.  "/dev/sd?"   and the fact that the kernel calls all ide disks "ATA" doesn't affect the way it accesses them.  the use of scsi emulation does however,  normally there is no noticable adverse affect, so if all you are experancing is a delay in boot processes; i sujest you try to see what is timming out.    probably a network issue
[08:22] <Gartra1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29328/ < here
[08:22] <intelikey> and javascript is probably not the issue.    which browser ?    but more likely you'll want to just use another pastebin.    try   pastebin.ca
[08:22] <epimeth> Gartra1: pastebin the ping response, please?
[08:23] <Gartra1> ok...
[08:23] <Gartra1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29329/
[08:24] <michael_m> intelikey:thnx heres my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/612131
[08:26] <Gartra1> epimeth:  ??
[08:27] <epimeth> Gartra1: hrm... replace the first line of your sources.list (deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse) with "deb http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted multiverse"
[08:27] <epimeth> also, why are you using edgy?  (just curious)
[08:27] <Gartra1> w/o quotation marks?
[08:28] <goldfingermafia> anyone know how to configure the packets source on kismet? i need soemhlep with it
[08:28] <Gartra1> new one wont run on my system
[08:28] <Gartra1> not nearly enough ra
[08:28] <Gartra1> ram*
[08:28] <epimeth> Gartra1: yes, no quotes
[08:29] <epimeth> goldfingermafia: not me, sorry :-) I have no idea what kismet *is*
[08:29] <michael_m> intelikey: dont know if u saw my pastebin link or not... http://pastebin.ca/612131
[08:29] <intelikey> michael_m ok. and what is on the screen durring the "long pause" ?
[08:29] <intelikey> michael_m yeah i saw it.
[08:29] <goldfingermafia> epimeth: np lol i have no clue eather beacuse i can even load the damn thing
[08:29] <epimeth> ahhh... packet sniffer :-)
[08:30] <epimeth> goldfingermafia: you tried the documentation? http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml
[08:30] <michael_m> intelikey: the progress bar just stays like at 1% for about to minutes then after it moves it rockets to the desktop
[08:30] <michael_m> two*
[08:30] <intelikey> michael_m yeah and no text ??
[08:30] <goldfingermafia> epimeth: yep and im jsut to reatard to understand it fo rmy mac, i need seomone to tell me what to type lol
[08:30] <michael_m> intelikey: nope
[08:30] <Gartra1> alright, trying new source
[08:30] <intelikey> not a "starting blah"   ?
[08:31] <michael_m> what do u mean by starting blah?
[08:31] <epimeth> goldfingermafia: sorry buddy... have you tried searching for a channel for kismet?  I'm sure they have on
[08:31] <epimeth> e
[08:31] <goldfingermafia> epimeth: no i havent, thanks ill try
[08:31] <intelikey> michael_m well boot the thing without the usplash and see what it's doing.   :)
[08:31] <michael_m> intelikey: how do i do that?
[08:32] <michael_m> ctrl f1?
[08:32] <intelikey> add splash=off    or  nosplash to the kernel line
[08:32] <intelikey> no it's [etc]   before it starts to boot.
[08:32] <Gartra1> same response
[08:32] <michael_m> intelikey: sorry im new to linux... how do i add that to the kernel line
[08:32] <intelikey> then select the boot string   hit E   select the kernel line   hit E    add nosplash
[08:33] <epimeth> Gartra1: even for restricted multiverse???
[08:33] <intelikey> enter and hit B
[08:33] <Gartra1> nothin
[08:34] <intelikey> michael_m you do know what "grub" is, right ?
[08:34] <michael_m> intelikey: my bootloader?
[08:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i still hate gnome :\
[08:34] <intelikey> yes
[08:35] <epimeth> Daisuke_Ido: well you're in good company then :-)
[08:35] <michael_m> so i hit esc? or whats tha ect thing?
[08:35] <michael_m> b4 it boots
[08:35] <intelikey> michael_m grub is editable.    you can use the escape key to access the grub menu and use the E key to edit a line   and  B to boot.
[08:35] <michael_m> ok
[08:35] <michael_m> ill be back in a few
[08:36] <epimeth> Gartra1: have you tried restarting?  I know its lame, but I have to ask
[08:37] <goldfingermafia> what is the diffrent between kubuntu and ubuntu
[08:37] <stdin> goldfingermafia: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses KDE
[08:38] <goldfingermafia> stdin: what one is better, and what one has more support?
[08:38] <Gartra1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29330/ < and yes
[08:39] <epimeth> goldfingermafia: kubuntu *is* ubuntu, only it uses kde as its window manager instead of gnome
[08:39] <epimeth> goldfingermafia: as for better, well....
[08:39] <Gartra1> there equaly supportad, but personal experience taught me kde is better
[08:39] <stdin> goldfingermafia: nither has more support than the other, as to which is best. You're in the Kubuntu channel, so we'll say KDE :p but it's what's best for YOU, so try them out and decide for yourself
[08:39] <epimeth> !better
[08:39] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:40] <goldfingermafia> waht one is eaier to use, or is it jsut graphical, im sorry im like brand new to liunx
[08:40] <Gartra1> weve all been there, dont worry
[08:41] <intelikey> err 0
[08:41] <intelikey> :)
[08:41] <stdin> goldfingermafia: some people think KDE is easier and some think Gnome is, it's down to what you feel comfortable in, they are goth graphical
[08:41] <Gartra1> again, try em out, you can them both on one computer, thats the beauty of linux
[08:41] <goldfingermafia> thanks guys
[08:41] <Gartra1> try*
[08:41] <Gartra1> np
[08:42] <intelikey> i changed it....
[08:42] <epimeth> Gartra1: according to the pastebin you just sent you didn't make the change I told you to make....
[08:42] <intelikey> duh....
[08:43] <michael_m> intelikey: it hangs and does this a couple of times
[08:43] <intelikey> heh
[08:43] <michael_m> 3.424000]  ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
[08:43] <michael_m> [   33.424000]  ata2.01: qc timeout (cmd 0xef)
[08:43] <michael_m> [   33.424000]  ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)
[08:43] <michael_m> [   33.424000]  ata2: failed to recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
[08:43] <michael_m> [   39.248000]  ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
[08:43] <michael_m> [   69.248000]  ata2.01: qc timeout (cmd 0xef)
[08:43] <michael_m> [   69.248000]  ata2.01: failed to set xfermode (err_mask=0x4)
[08:44] <michael_m> oops i meant to paste my pastein link
[08:45] <Gartra1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/
[08:45] <intelikey> ok michael_m it is trying to access ata devices and timming out.     so you are correct in your assumption of the error.     that's a kernel issue (err actually initramfs issue)  so you'll need to check for bug reports ont and file a bug on it.     system should not have to time out on missing hardware.
[08:45] <tmbg> lies, damn lies, and statistics.
[08:45] <Gartra1> epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29331/
[08:46] <epimeth> Gartra1: you sure you're firewall isn't blocking port 4001?
[08:46] <intelikey> !bug | michael_m
[08:46] <ubotu> michael_m: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:46] <epimeth> tho that seems like a strech
[08:46] <michael_m> intelikey: i have a 320 gig ide drive in another xbox. u think i can just swap that one into my pc and everything work?
[08:46] <Gartra1> checking
[08:47] <epimeth> michael_m: should work just fine
[08:47] <epimeth> michael_m: actually... maybe not
[08:47] <intelikey> michael_m maybe.   but be ware of moving disks around with static device addressing.  you may find it un bootable.
[08:48] <epimeth> 320GB ide?  I didn't know IDE could be that big???
[08:49] <intelikey> michael_m i.e. if you boot a linux system on /dev/sda1  and you change that disk to a box where it becomes sdb1 booting is hosed until you fix the initramfs.img file  and correct the /boot/grub/[device.map,menu.lst]  flies
[08:49] <michael_m> epimeth: i think its ide/ata
[08:50] <michael_m> intelikey: i just installed this so reinstalling wont bother me...lol
[08:50] <intelikey> then   yes it should work.
[08:51] <intelikey> however reinstall takes longer than fix for those that know what to do to fix one....
[08:52] <michael_m> im not one of those though
[08:52] <epimeth> lol yup... I know the feeling
[08:52] <intelikey> but do file a bug report.
[08:52] <Gartra1> epimeth: if you get an idea, msg me? ok, i gtg
[08:52] <epimeth> Gartra1: sure
[08:52] <intelikey> michael_m but do file a bug report.
[08:52] <michael_m> intelikey: not sure exactly what to do to file it
[08:53] <intelikey> !bug | michael_m
[08:53] <ubotu> michael_m: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[08:53] <intelikey> michael_m if things like that don't get reported, they don't get fixed.
[08:54] <zedQ> test
[08:54] <epimeth> intelikey, stdin: you guys been following Gartra1's problem?
[08:54] <intelikey> !i
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <epimeth> !ping | zedQ
[08:54] <epimeth> :-)
[08:54] <ubotu> zedQ: pong
[08:54] <michael_m> yeah i know. im registering right now
[08:54] <stdin> epimeth: no, what's the problem?
[08:54] <zedQ> lol
[08:54] <epimeth> his apt-get isn't working right...
[08:55] <epimeth> ttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg: Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[08:55] <intelikey> ttp: ^
[08:55] <epimeth> meh
[08:55] <epimeth> http
[08:55] <epimeth> stupid copy paste
[08:55] <epimeth> :-)
[08:55] <stdin> epimeth: I saw the pastebin, looks like apt is trying to connect through a proxy (localhost:4001)
[08:55] <intelikey> you don't connect to the   Release.gpg
[08:56] <epimeth> stdin: but everything else seems to be working fine... irc, ping, and (I assume) http
[08:56] <epimeth> any reason apt won't work through a prozy?
[08:56] <epimeth> s/prozy/proxy
[08:57] <stdin> epimeth: apt takes it's settings from elsewhere, maybe the http_proxy (??) variable is set
[08:57] <epimeth> hrm... I'll check that...
[08:59] <intelikey> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release.gpg  <<< that still doesn't look right.      should be more like    http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy Release.gpg  ???      or the text i see is like that anyway
[09:00] <stdin> intelikey: no, when apt updates it displays full URLs (in errors anyawy)
[09:00] <epimeth> intelikey: his sources.list is fine... and if you go to archive.ubuntu.com and traverse the tree, you'll see that that is where the file is located
[09:00] <epimeth> :-)
[09:00] <intelikey> stdin hmmm not in NON-error output...
[09:00] <epimeth> yup... just checked that
[09:01] <epimeth> :-)
[09:01] <stdin> epimeth: it would either be set in the variable "http_proxy" or in "/etc/apt/apt.conf" (or a file in "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/")
[09:01] <epimeth> stdin: checking those files now, actually
[09:02] <stdin> intelikey: no, in NON-error output it looks like "Get: 4 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release [57.2kB] "
[09:02] <intelikey> yeah.  or edgy or what ever release.
[09:02] <stdin> well, that was taken from when I just did apt-get update :)
[09:03] <intelikey> and also the  Release.gpg  hits.  but it just looked odd seeing apt output with /blah/blah/
[09:04] <stdin> it doesn't always hit
[09:05] <intelikey> hit/git  one or the other
[09:05] <stdin> ir ign :)
[09:05] <stdin> s/ir/or/
[09:06] <intelikey> yeah
[09:07] <intelikey> stdin know a random number generator for sh ?   (not bash)
[09:08] <stdin> not built in, no
[09:09] <intelikey> k
[09:10] <stdin> sh/dash is supposed to be as lightweight as possible, so I guess it wasn't built in
[09:11] <intelikey> well $RANDOM is a bash extention anyway...
[09:11] <stdin> I meant the functionality
[09:12] <neko> what i can install cedega cvs ? :\
[09:18] <arun> Anyone running Windows apps natively using rdesktop/VMware here?
[09:19] <intelikey> found  gsl-bin
[09:19] <intelikey> !info gsl-bin
[09:19] <ubotu> gsl-bin: GNU Scientific Library (GSL) -- binary package. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8-3build1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB
[09:19] <arun> No one?
[09:19] <goldfingermafia> how do i check dpkg-L ?
[09:20] <intelikey> arun i wouldn't care too no.
[09:20] <intelikey> goldfingermafia ???
[09:20] <waylandbill> I don't find a need to run windows software, so I don't have a need to run vmware.
[09:20] <goldfingermafia> intelikey: someone told i me i need to check that file? or install it or something
[09:20] <goldfingermafia> im trying to set up kismet and im so lost
[09:21] <waylandbill> goldfingermafia: dpkg -l tells the packages installed if that's what you refer to.
[09:21] <intelikey> goldfingermafia "dpkg -L package-name "     would be a command  "plus args"  to list the content of an installed package
[09:21] <intelikey> !dpkg | goldfingermafia
[09:21] <ubotu> goldfingermafia: dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:23] <intelikey> goldfingermafia but dpkg-L doesn't exist unless you create it...    i.e. no such file or dirrectory.
[09:24] <goldfingermafia> ok will then why dose it not show madwifi as being installed on there, yet my internet is working?
[09:25] <goldfingermafia> how the hell do i install madwifi!!!! ahhhhhhh
[09:25] <stdin> goldfingermafia: you should have it already, it's in the restricted-modules
[09:26] <intelikey> maybe cause madwifi is not a ubuntu package....
[09:26] <waylandbill> goldfingermafia: that tells packages, not executable programs btw. That's not necessarily the same thing.
[09:27] <goldfingermafia> ok so what do i type in to check the restricted things
[09:28] <stdin> goldfingermafia: just make sure you have "linux-restricted-modules-generic" installed
[09:28] <stdin> apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic
[09:28] <intelikey> something like    dpkg -L `dpkg -l | cut -d' ' -f3 | grep restricted`
[09:29] <stdin> if you want to do it the hard way ^ :p
[09:29] <intelikey> :)
[09:29] <goldfingermafia> stdin: im tttrying to make shure my madwifi drivers are installed correctly, how do i go about doing that
[09:29] <intelikey> lsmod
[09:29] <stdin> goldfingermafia: install apt-cache policy linux-restricted-modules-generic, then make sure you have "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/madwifi/"
[09:30] <stdin> hmm, s/apt-cache policy //
[09:30] <intelikey> ;/
[09:30] <tino_> #kubuntu-es
[09:30] <intelikey> /join
[09:31] <goldfingermafia> stdin: it says linux-restiriced0modules0generic is not a directory?
[09:32] <stdin> goldfingermafia: what's with the '0's in that?
[09:32] <goldfingermafia> stdin: there - lol i dont have a mouse so i ahve to retype it lol
[09:32] <goldfingermafia> stdin: im on a amc no right click
[09:32] <intelikey> stdin hardly matters he ran "install balh..."
[09:32] <stdin> goldfingermafia: "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[09:34] <mario_> help me please
[09:34] <stdin> goldfingermafia: but that for the -generic arch, doesn't the mack have a different kernel?
[09:34] <mario_> I want default xp prof on this menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29332/
[09:34] <goldfingermafia> stdin: it says Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:35] <stdin> goldfingermafia: do you have adept open?
[09:35] <intelikey> mario_ move it to the top of the kernel lines ???
[09:35] <goldfingermafia> adept? i have this and my teminal open
[09:35] <stdin> mario_: change default to 5
[09:35] <mario_> ok I try
[09:35] <mario_> i will try
[09:36] <goldfingermafia> stdin: adept? i ahve this and terminal oipen
[09:36] <stdin> goldfingermafia: hmm, ok try "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock ; sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[09:37] <intelikey> stdin not 6 ?     doesn't the seporator kernel count ?  "title           Other operating systems:"  ???
[09:37] <kraut> moin
[09:37] <goldfingermafia> stdin: when i type the firs on it says udo is not installed, then when i try to install it i get teh same error i did befor
[09:37] <goldfingermafia> stdin: should i try to restart
[09:37] <stdin> intelikey: hmm, probably :p
[09:38] <stdin> goldfingermafia: 1st what kernel do you have? uname -r
[09:38] <goldfingermafia> 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:38] <goldfingermafia> stdin: 2.6.20-16-generic
[09:39] <intelikey> "udo is not installed"
[09:39] <stdin> goldfingermafia: and does "dpkg -l | grep restricted" show that "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic" is installed?
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> stdin:
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> i  linux-restrict <IP_ADDRESS>-15.20 Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> ii  linux-restrict <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29 Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules on x86/x86_64
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> ii  linux-restrict <IP_ADDRESS>-16.29 Non-free Linux 2.6.20 modules helper script
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> ii  linux-restrict <IP_ADDRESS>.28.1 Restricted Linux modules for generic kernels
[09:40] <goldfingermafia> woops sorry didnt mean to span guys
[09:40] <stdin> ok, try doing "modprobe ath_pci" to load the madwifi module
[09:41] <goldfingermafia> i put that in and nothing ahppend
[09:41] <intelikey> good
[09:41] <stdin> that's probably good :p
[09:41] <intelikey> no error means no error
[09:41] <stdin> see what "iwconfig" shows
[09:42] <goldfingermafia> for the first 3 lo, eth0 wifi0, ntohing
[09:42] <goldfingermafia> for ath0 says all this stuff
[09:43] <stdin> goldfingermafia: good, same as mine :)
[09:43] <intelikey> mine is much more simple....   tty24 [root@~]  iwconfig
[09:43] <intelikey> -root: iwconfig: command not found
[09:43] <stdin> goldfingermafia: try "iwlist ath0 scann" to see if you can pick up your access point
[09:44] <stdin> intelikey: helps if you have wireless :p
[09:44] <goldfingermafia> yes i do
[09:44] <stdin> it helps iwconfig, that's what :)
[09:44] <tino_> #guadalinex
[09:44] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i pick it up, im on ubuntu talking to you, but other programs arent getting it to
[09:45] <goldfingermafia> stdin: kismet cannont find it
[09:45] <intelikey> tino_   /join #channel
[09:45] <intelikey> tino_   /join #guadalinex
[09:45] <stdin> goldfingermafia: have you configured kissmet right?
[09:45] <intelikey> tino_   /join #ubuntu-es
[09:45] <goldfingermafia> stdin: dude im so lost with the hole kismet thing, i have talked to 10000 people and donse so many things
[09:46] <goldfingermafia> stdin: when i launch it i get this error
[09:46] <stdin> goldfingermafia: I have a config file that works here
[09:46] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ATAL: Support for capture source type 'madwifi_b' was not built.  Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in.
[09:47] <stdin> goldfingermafia: ahh, yes, now I remember
[09:47] <intelikey> folks, i'm went.
[09:47] <intelikey> gooday
[09:47] <stdin> goldfingermafia: i think you need to patch the driver, it was fixed later
[09:47] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok how do i do that
[09:48] <goldfingermafia> stdin: this is the source in the configure file source=madwifi_b,ath0,1
[09:49] <stdin> goldfingermafia: it involves downloading the source code and a patch, then patching the source and then compiling and installing it. not simple
[09:49] <goldfingermafia> stdin: do you even want to try to walk me thorugh it? or iss there a walkknorough for dummies online somewere
[09:49] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i jsut installed madwifi like two days ago
[09:50] <stdin> goldfingermafia: let me try and find the info on it, it's been a while since i did
[09:50] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ty so much
[10:05] <stdin> goldfingermafia: do you need the restricted-modues for anything else? like nvidia (from the packages)??
[10:37] <MikeMike> Hi
[10:39] <MikeMike> Whenver I try to play a dvd disc using kubuntu kaffeine I always get the error "No plugin found to handle this resource"  How can I resolve this ?
[10:39] <MikeMike> Whenever I try to play a dvd disc using kubuntu kaffeine I always get the error "No plugin found to handle this resource"  How can I resolve this ?
[10:39] <Fragility> they cant include it because of it being proprietary, try getting the program Automatix
[10:40] <bldzr> Tried the links in the topic?
[10:40] <bldzr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-3f4b65ab5f0a93fab9b45dae1d5059723720b802
[10:41] <stdin> !automatix | Fragility, MikeMike
[10:41] <ubotu> Fragility, MikeMike: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:42] <bldzr> Using available resources will help you a lot more than spamming a question repeatedly
[10:43] <MikeMike> got it
[10:44] <bldzr> :)
[10:47] <goldfingermafia> stdin: no i dont bro
[10:47] <goldfingermafia> stdin: just for the drivers if can find it
[10:49] <stdin> goldfingermafia: ok, it prety easy to install them now, but you'll need to remove the restricted modules package and stop the network to install them, but I can help you build it first
[10:49] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok tell me what to type
[10:49] <stdin> goldfingermafia: 1st you need to run "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential"
[10:50] <goldfingermafia> it says udo is not installed
[10:50] <goldfingermafia> it had and error
[10:50] <goldfingermafia> and i cant install udo
[10:50] <goldfingermafia> wait hold on
[10:50] <stdin> goldfingermafia: sudo, not udo
[10:51] <goldfingermafia> oh lol ok now it says
[10:51] <goldfingermafia> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:51] <goldfingermafia> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:51] <goldfingermafia> should i try to restart?
[10:52] <stdin> goldfingermafia: try "sudo fuser -vik http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/madwifi/madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[10:52] <stdin> opps
[10:52] <stdin> goldfingermafia: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[10:52] <stdin> goldfingermafia: then "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[10:52] <stdin> goldfingermafia: and that's sudo, not udo
[10:53] <bldzr> goldfingermafia: Do you have adept running or something?
[10:53] <bldzr> That's the most common cause to that message
[10:53] <goldfingermafia> ok that worked
[10:53] <stdin> bldzr: not in console mode
[10:53] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok that wokred
[10:53] <bldzr> Ahh, ok :)
[10:53] <stdin> goldfingermafia: so you installed linux-headers-generic and build-essential now?
[10:53] <goldfingermafia> stdin: it says udo apt-get install linux-headers-generic build-essential
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> wait
[10:54] <stdin> goldfingermafia: Sudo, no udo
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> stdin:  it says
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[10:54] <goldfingermafia>   libpcap0.7
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> i know i put sudo
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> at the end, after it installed the other things
[10:54] <stdin> goldfingermafia: ok, that's ok then, now you can start :)
[10:54] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok waht do i do
[10:55] <stdin> goldfingermafia: 1st you'll want to become root, so type: sudo -i
[10:55] <stdin> goldfingermafia: then go to /usr/src
[10:55] <goldfingermafia> k, i had to put cd infront of it is that ok
[10:56] <stdin> goldfingermafia: now do: wget http://tinyurl.com/336j4n
[10:57] <stdin> goldfingermafia: once you have that, do: tar xjf madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[10:57] <stdin> goldfingermafia: then cd madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok
[10:58] <goldfingermafia> stdin: everything worked fine im there
[10:59] <stdin> goldfingermafia: now type in "make KERNELPATH=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.20-16-generic/"
[10:59] <stdin> goldfingermafia: that should start building the modules
[10:59] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ya it is doing something
[11:00] <goldfingermafia> stdin: k it is done
[11:01] <zander_> join #nephilim
[11:01] <stdin> goldfingermafia: make sure it didn't say anything about errors
[11:01] <goldfingermafia> stdin: no errors at all
[11:01] <stdin> goldfingermafia: good :)
[11:02] <stdin> goldfingermafia: ok, now you're going to have to unload the modules you have now, then remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and delete them
[11:02] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok so how do i do that
[11:04] <stdin> goldfingermafia: so you do: "ifconfig ath0 down ; ifconfig wifi0 down" then "cd scripts", "./madwifi-unload.bash" then "./find-madwifi-modules.sh $(uname -r)"
[11:04] <stdin> goldfingermafia: not yet tho!
[11:05] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok, but i copy thoses one after the other
[11:06] <stdin> goldfingermafia: yeah, then do "apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-generic" and remove all of that, then you type in "make install"
[11:06] <goldfingermafia> stdin: after all of that
[11:06] <stdin> goldfingermafia: after all that, you type in "modprobe ath_pci" and you should have the new drivers
[11:06] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok so i have to do 7 things right
[11:07] <stdin> goldfingermafia: yeah, run those scripts, then remove linux-restricted-modules-generic, then install the drivers and then load the ath_pci module
[11:08] <whippy> hello
[11:08] <stdin> goldfingermafia: after that you're all set
[11:08] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok tahnks a bunch man, if im back on in a few minutes it worked lol thanks
[11:08] <stdin> goldfingermafia: if not then just run "make uninstall" and "apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic" to get the old ones back
[11:09] <stdin> goldfingermafia: and good luck :)
[11:09] <jaaroo> hello there. I'm trying to write kernel module which will use cryptoapi. However my feisty kubuntu seems not to have /usr/include/linux/crypto.h at all. Where can I find it please?
[11:13] <stdin> jaaroo: you build modules against the headers in /usr/src/ not in /usr/include/
[11:15] <jaaroo> stdin: oh. Thanks very much. That was quite confusing because there is /usr/include/linux as well.
[11:16] <stdin> jaaroo: yeah, those are some more "generic" headers, for modules you need to build it against the files in the kernel source or headers
[11:17] <jaaroo> stdin: gentoo has crypto.h in /usr/include/linux
[11:17] <stdin> jaaroo: I'd bet it doesn't match up with the one in the headers/source though
[11:18] <stdin> besides, there are lots of crypto.h files
[11:18] <stdin> !find crypto.h
[11:18] <jaaroo> stdin: ok. Now I have header with lot of definitions and function prototypes. Without any useful comments. Do you know if there is some (complete) reference? For CryptoAPI at least? I haven't found any yet.
[11:18] <ubotu> File crypto.h found in asterisk-dev, kdelibs4-dev, kdelibs5-dev, libcrypto++-dev, libfwbuilder-dev (and 17 others)
[11:19] <jaaroo> stdin: I'm interested in the kernel's crypto.h.
[11:21] <stdin> jaaroo: for that I'd say to grab documentation package linux-doc
[11:21] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: u still there
[11:21] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: yeah
[11:21] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: it failed when i tryed to do the ./madwifi-bash.conf command
[11:21] <jaaroo> stdin: have it. And read through entire decumentation for cryptoapi, but it is not very detailed though.
[11:21] <stdin> jaaroo: try asking in ##linux or #ubuntu-kernel
[11:22] <jaaroo> stdin: anyway thanks for advice.
[11:22] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: you mean madwifi-unload.bash ?
[11:22] <stdin> jaaroo: I'm no kernel hacker, I can only help so much :p
[11:23] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: yes this is waht i get
[11:23] <goldfingermafia_> root@l33t-h4x0r:/usr/src/madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>/scripts# ./madwifi-unload.bash
[11:23] <goldfingermafia_> FATAL: Module wlan_scan_sta is in use.
[11:23] <goldfingermafia_> FATAL: Module wlan is in use.
[11:23] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: ok, try this big command instead then....
[11:24] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: ok instead of the four little ones?
[11:24] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: wait, instead of the madwifi-unload.bash do the command I'm about to paste in
[11:24] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: k
[11:26] <stdin> for i in $(seq 1 10); do for mod in $(lsmod | egrep '(ath|wifi)'|grep " 0 "|awk '{print $1}');do echo $mod;done;done
[11:26] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: ^ all one line
[11:26] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: does that show anything?
[11:26] <goldfingermafia_> ok it printed ath_pci about 10 times
[11:26] <goldfingermafia_> stdin: above
[11:27] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: ok, that what i wanted, now replace "echo" with "rmmod"
[11:27] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: that should do the dirty work for you then
[11:27] <VIrUZ__> hi
[11:27] <stdin> goldfingermafia_: that will probably bring you network down
[11:29] <VIrUZ__> whats your problem goldfingermafia_ ?
[11:31] <MikeMike>  can   someone  guide me install libdvdcss2?
[11:31] <VIrUZ__> NO
[11:31] <MikeMike>  the  instructions drive me crazy
[11:31] <VIrUZ__> thats eligal
[11:31] <VIrUZ__> do you wnat to go to jail ?
[11:32] <Lynoure> VIrUZ__: I can, not illegal here.
[11:32] <VIrUZ__> try installing  libbrcss2
[11:33] <Lynoure> but it has been so long I cannot remember...
[11:33] <goldfingermafia> stdin: it wokred
[11:33] <Lynoure> !dvd
[11:33] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:33] <goldfingermafia> stdin: but kismet still says thisFATAL: Support for capture source type 'madwifi_b' was not built.  Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in.
[11:33] <Lynoure> MikeMike: What point are you stuck with?
[11:33] <stdin> MikeMike: do in konsole "wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb"
[11:33] <goldfingermafia> stdin: any ideas?
[11:33] <MikeMike> if its ilegal how come ubuntu site gives u the guide?
[11:34] <MikeMike> i saw this...
[11:34] <MikeMike> After doing a fresh install of Feisty, be it Ubuntu or Kubuntu, there are two packages not installed by default that need to be installed for DVD playback to work. There's a third package needed to play encrypted DVDs. They are:
[11:34] <MikeMike>  libdvdread3
[11:34] <MikeMike>  libxine1-ffmpeg (Also requires libmad0, therefore libmad0 will be installed automatically along with this package)
[11:34] <MikeMike>  libdvdcss2 (Needed to play encrypted DVDs)
[11:34] <stdin> MikeMike: it's only illegal in some places
[11:34] <VIrUZ__> do you know that Blue ray disks have only 10 giga byts of actuall footage ? the other 15 gigas are for the encriptrion key :D
[11:34] <stdin> goldfingermafia: give me a sec
[11:35] <MikeMike> oh!
[11:35] <MikeMike> ok
[11:35] <VIrUZ__> MikeMike: i love you
[11:35] <VIrUZ__> you are so sweet
[11:35] <MikeMike>  oh well i  can  play dvd movies now.  i just tried it
[11:36] <VIrUZ__> that was fast
[11:36] <VIrUZ__> roflol
[11:36] <VIrUZ__> another satisfied costumer
[11:36] <MikeMike> im not techi when it comes to kubuntu yet...
[11:36] <stdin> goldfingermafia: are you using 802.11b (not a or g) ?
[11:37] <goldfingermafia> stdin: my network is b, but how can i check?
[11:37] <stdin> goldfingermafia: "iwconfig ath0" it should say something like "IEEE 802.11b" in the 1st line if it's b
[11:38] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ok im using g
[11:39] <goldfingermafia> stdin: let me change that
[11:39] <stdin> goldfingermafia: just to make sure, what does the Frequency say ?
[11:39] <goldfingermafia> 2.45
[11:39] <stdin> yeah, that's g
[11:41] <goldfingermafia> stdin:  and in kismet.conf i have this as the source source=madwifi_g,ath0,1
[11:42] <goldfingermafia> stdin: and i still get the was not built error
[11:44] <Gartral> !dvd
[11:44] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:44] <stdin> goldfingermafia: use wifi0, not ath0
[11:44] <stdin> goldfingermafia: you can also try madwifi_ag
[11:44] <stdin> goldfingermafia: or _ab
[11:45] <goldfingermafia> stdin: k
[11:45] <_wk> hello - does someone know the packet sources for the latest kde version in ubuntu dapper (6.06) ?
[11:46] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i sitll get the same error
[11:46] <stdin> _wk: the latest kde in dapper is 3.5.5
[11:46] <_wk> yes i know, and where are the packet sources?
[11:46] <stdin> _wk: in the main repos
[11:46] <_wk> the kubuntu.org sources do not work any more
[11:47] <_wk> oh ok
[11:47] <stdin> _wk: the kubuntu.org ones are mostly feisty and some edgy, not really and dapper
[11:47] <stdin> goldfingermafia: what does "dpkg -l|grep kismet" show?
[11:48] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ii  kismet                                     2006.04.R1-1.1                         Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool
[11:48] <_wk> stdin: ok thx
[11:54] <stdin> goldfingermafia: have you tried with madwifi_ag,wifi0,1 ?
[11:56] <goldfingermafia> stdin: yes
[11:56] <goldfingermafia> stdin: and the ab
[11:56] <goldfingermafia> stdin: both got same error
[11:59] <stdin> goldfingermafia: try with this config: http://stdin.pastebin.us/38045
[12:01] <stdin> goldfingermafia: you'll need to change ath0 to wifi0 though
[12:03] <Nilli> I have some issues with my ATI driver.. I have installed the fglrx driver because I need 3D acceleration, but ever since I installed those drivers the computer seems to have forgotten how to shutdown and I need to do it the brutal way using the power button every time.. in my Xorg.log there's an error message saying "(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symb
[12:03] <Nilli> or __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)"
[12:03] <lodrino> hola perdon porque no ablo muy bien ingles , necesito un poco de ayuda por un problema con k3b alguien puede ayudarme
[12:04] <pag> !es | lodrino
[12:04] <ubotu> lodrino: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:04] <lodrino> ok muchas gracias
[12:05] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i get the same error this make no since, this is the errorFATAL: Support for capture source type 'madwifi_ag' was not built.  Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in.
[12:07] <stdin> goldfingermafia: what architecture are you on?
[12:08] <goldfingermafia> stdin: ubuntu what do you mean architeture
[12:08] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i have a macbook
[12:08] <stdin> goldfingermafia: x86, AMD64, IA64, PPC etc
[12:09] <tino097> need help a bit ?
[12:09] <goldfingermafia> stdin: intel core2 duo
[12:09] <pag> !ask | tino097
[12:09] <ubotu> tino097: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:09] <stdin> goldfingermafia: did you install with the x86 iso?
[12:09] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i belive so, how do i check i dont rember
[12:10] <zander_> how to install all updates for kubuntu
[12:10] <stdin> goldfingermafia: run "dpkg-architecture |head -1"
[12:10] <tino097> i get some strange message
[12:10] <tino097> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[12:11] <pag> zander_, what do you mean?  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:11] <tino097>   Major opcode:  145
[12:11] <tino097>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:11] <pag> tino097, nevermind those, they mean exactly nothing :)
[12:11] <tino097>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:11] <tino097> Failed to open device
[12:11] <tino097> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[12:11] <stdin> zander_: open adept, click on Fetch Updates, then click on Full Upgrade and apply
[12:11] <pag> !baddevice
[12:11] <tino097>   Major opcode:  145
[12:11] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[12:11] <tino097>   Minor opcode:  3
[12:11] <tino097>   Resource id:  0x0
[12:11] <tino097> Failed to open device
[12:11] <tino097> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[12:11] <tino097> Xlib: No protocol specified
[12:11] <tino097> displayconfig: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[12:11] <tino097> ok :) thanks
[12:11] <goldfingermafia> stdin: DEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386
[12:12] <stdin> tino097: and don't run GUI apps with sudo, use kdesu
[12:12] <stdin> goldfingermafia: strange, it works here
[12:13] <Nilli> what is the difference between sudo and kdesu, and why is one better than the other?
[12:13] <pag> !kdesu | Nilli
[12:13] <stdin> !kdesu | Nilli
[12:13] <ubotu> Nilli: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:13] <Nilli> thanks
[12:13] <goldfingermafia> stdin: is there anything i have to have installed to run kismet that i dont have isntalled
[12:13] <stdin> goldfingermafia: no, installing the package will have got everything
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> goldfingermafia: apt will take care of the dependencies, most likely
[12:14] <goldfingermafia> stdin: any other ideas? or is there nayhting out there that works just as will do the same thing
[12:14] <goldfingermafia> stdin: i just wanted to see if i can actully crack my own wifi
[12:15] <stdin> goldfingermafia: hmm, have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CrackingWEP ?
[12:15] <goldfingermafia> stdin: no tahnks
[12:15] <Nilli> nano isn't GUI, right?
[12:16] <stdin> Nilli: depends on your definition of "graphical", but no, it isn't
[12:16] <goldfingermafia> stdin: will tahnks for all you help appricate you taking all that time to walk me throught everything
[12:17] <stdin> goldfingermafia: I love a challenge, kept me happy for a while :p
[12:17] <Nilli> I was just wondering if I'm 'allowed' to do sudo nano or if I would have to kdesu kwrite instead
[12:18] <goldfingermafia> stdin: will if i figure it out one day i will let you know, thanks again and ttyl
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> Nilli: there's nothing wrong with sudo nano.
[12:18] <stdin> goldfingermafia: see you later
[12:18] <Nilli> now I would really appreciate if someone could help me with my fglrx issue :)
[12:19] <tino097>  comment sections in xorg.conf, but are they need to be commented int his section too?
[12:19] <stdin> Nilli: simple rule is, if it opens in a new window (outside of the terminal) then use kdesu, if not use sudo
[12:19] <tino097> Section "ServerLayout"
[12:19] <tino097>   Identifier "Default Layout"
[12:19] <tino097>   screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0
[12:19] <tino097>   InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
[12:19] <tino097>   InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
[12:19] <tino097>   InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:19] <tino097>   InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:19] <tino097>   InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
[12:19] <tino097> EndSection
[12:19] <tino097> stylus,cursor and eraser
[12:19] <stdin> !paste | tino097
[12:19] <ubotu> tino097: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:21] <tino097> like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29344/
[12:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Where can I re-enable the "paste warning" from Konversation? Having it turned of just got me kick because I accidently pasted what I pasted to pastebin instead of the actual url of the paste
[12:23] <pag> MilhousePunkRock, settings -> warning dialogues
[12:24] <MilhousePunkRock> pag: Thanks, I just found it myself...
[12:24] <Nilli> anyone on my case, or is it time to give up? -.-
[12:25] <_4strO> Nilli: what do you wana do ?
[12:25] <Nilli> I have some issues with my ATI driver.. I have installed the fglrx driver because I need 3D acceleration, but ever since I installed those drivers the computer seems to have forgotten how to shutdown and I need to do it the brutal way using the power button every time.. in my Xorg.log there's an error message saying "(EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symb
[12:25] <Nilli> or __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727)"
[12:26] <Nilli> oh, the second row is "(EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering"
[12:27] <_4strO> Nilli: can you paste the all file ?
[12:27] <Nilli> What's the all file? o.O
[12:27] <pag> !paste | Nilli
[12:27] <ubotu> Nilli: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:28] <_4strO> Nilli: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:29] <Nilli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29347/
[12:29] <_4strO> ok will have a look
[12:31] <Nilli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29348/
[12:32] <Nilli> the second is the ldd output
[12:33] <_4strO> Nilli: si everythink works fine except you can't have clean quit ?
[12:34] <Nilli> well, when I try to use -opengl on world of warcraft it's awfully laggy (cursor can't keep up etc), but it works fine if I do -d3d instead
[12:34] <Nilli> not sure if it's related to this issue
[12:36] <Nilli> but the shutdown issue really bugs me
[12:36] <_4strO> Nilli: if you sudo reboot ?
[12:36] <_4strO> think it's ok no ?
[12:36] <Nilli> haven't tried that
[12:36] <Nilli> want me to do it right now?
[12:36] <_4strO> Nilli: what did you try ?
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> Nilli: for a slightly cleaner quit, use "sudo halt"
[12:36] <_4strO> use the quiit button ?
[12:36] <SlimeyPete> (I have the same problem with my laptop)
[12:36] <Nilli> just clicking my way to a reboot
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> I submitted a bug report but to no avail (thus far)
[12:37] <Nilli> SlimeyPete: issue with fglrx?
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> yep
[12:37] <SlimeyPete> fglrx on a radeon 200M. System hangs when I try to shutdown.
[12:37] <Nilli> nice to know I'm not the only one
[12:37] <Nilli> yeah 200M here too
[12:38] <Nilli> _4strO: want me to sudo reboot?
[12:38] <_4strO> nop
[12:39] <_4strO> just in case (it should be better to do this altough push the button)
[12:39] <_4strO> otherwise*
[12:39] <Nilli> ok
[12:39] <_4strO> but think it's a XGL bug not an ati bug
[12:41] <Nilli> I don't use XGL
[12:41] <Nilli> but AIGLX
[12:42] <_4strO> ha ?
[12:42] <Nilli> ..I don't know what I'm talking about, the mister told me to write that
[12:42] <_4strO> how do you do to use AIGLX with fglrx and direct rendering on ?
[12:42] <Nilli> no idea
[12:43] <Nilli> is that the root of it all?
[12:44] <_4strO> Nilli: i'm not sure but i think
[12:45] <Nilli> and how would I go about to solve it?
[12:45] <_4strO> Nilli: http://forrestbao.blogspot.com/search/label/xgl
[12:46] <_4strO> Nilli: that is you had done ?
[12:49] <Nilli> _4strO: no, haven't done a thing, default install
[01:01] <Nilli> _4strO: are you finding anything of use?
[01:01] <sscott> hi
[01:01] <sscott> can anyone tell me why i don't have any screensavers?
[01:01] <sscott> they are installed
[01:02] <_4strO> Nilli: nop sorry
[01:02] <sscott> !screensavers
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <sscott> why no screensaver
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> How come dmesg tells me a USB disk is sdb1, but fsck won't run on it?
[01:05] <sscott> cause it's mounted
[01:06] <sscott> umount /media/whateveritmountedas
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, of course I unmounted it, and it's not complaining it wouldn't do a fsck on a mounted filesystem, but rather that it's not there
[01:06] <sscott> sdb
[01:06] <sscott> hrm
[01:06] <sscott> wacky
[01:07] <sscott> my screensavers dissapeared
[01:07] <sscott> :P
[01:07] <sscott> wow
[01:08] <sscott> lol wtf
[01:09] <aantn> how could I get a gnome like menu in kde
[01:10] <aantn> the windows like menubar is really bothering me
[01:10] <sscott> window managers
[01:10] <sscott> use dekorator
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> you mean you want it at the top?
[01:10] <sscott> kde-look
[01:10] <sscott> oh
[01:10] <sscott> the "start" button
[01:10] <aantn> SlimeyPete: yes
[01:10] <sscott> oh lol
[01:10] <aantn> or a dock would be nice
[01:10] <sscott> drag it
[01:10] <sscott> right click add panel
[01:10] <SlimeyPete> aantn: right-click the bar, unloc panels, left-click and drag thebr to the top
[01:11] <sscott> (right click on free space on the panel)
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> *the bar
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> I hate this keyboard sometimes
[01:11] <sscott> that's easy.. someone tell me why my screensavers aren't listing
[01:11] <sscott> an dhow to fix it
[01:11] <sscott> lol
[01:12] <sscott> i'm removing every package with screensaver now
[01:12] <sscott> i hope this works
[01:13] <freeze_> hi
[01:17] <aantn> has anyone used all of the docks
[01:18] <aantn> i.e. kooldock, etc
[01:36] <danya_> do I have to download kdmtheme manager to install themes!?
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> danya_: Yes. apt has it though
[01:39] <danya_> milhousepunkrock whats apt ?
[01:39] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get?
[01:40] <danya_> oh lol thnks
[01:41] <Nilli> well, _4strO, thanks for trying to help, really appreciate it
[01:41] <TcG> Hi...
[01:42] <TcG> does anybody know how to get the Kubuntu-Client into a Windows Domain as a Member ?
[01:42] <TcG> it's my first try using Kubuntu (was supported in openSUSE 10.1 and 10.2)
[01:45] <spawn57> as a member?
[01:46] <spawn57> you mean as a server?
[02:00] <shadowhywind> i have a odd problem here, Windows can ping the host name of my one of my kubuntu boxs (name:A) but my other kubuntu box (name:b) can't ping it by its host name, it comes up with unkown host
[02:14] <icecruncher> !restricted
[02:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <icecruncher> !wav
[02:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <hasan> how can i add and remove a program from start-up?
[02:49] <DexterF> guys, why is kubuntu so sluggish? I came from Slackware where I could have VMware *and* VirtualBox running on this AthlonXP 3200+/1GB and often forgot them on desktop 2 because they had hardly any impact on my other stuff, now on Kub VMware alone draws so much power I can't barely do anything else.
[02:50] <soc> which things are running in the background?
[02:50] <soc> tracker, beagle?
[02:50] <soc> maybe they affect the performance ...
[02:52] <happytiger> Help please ---> http://thekewl.pastebin.ca/612474      I have trouble making a cron job run
[02:52] <lego> Mornin everyone.
[02:52] <happytiger> Morning :-)
[02:53] <lego> Anyone play the game Penguin Command?
[02:53] <happytiger> Nope i only play the cron game but keeps loosing so far :-)
[02:53] <lego> I can play using the Windows version, but not the Linux version.
[02:54] <lego> When I start the level, the mouse wants to go into the top left corner and when I move it, it keeps trying to go back.
[02:55] <lego> Quite a nusense.
[02:57] <lego> I will try back later.
[02:57] <zander_> how to stopp adept?
[02:58] <zander_>  how to stopp adept?
[02:59] <Lynoure> zander_: stop in which way?
[02:59] <zander_> i had a crash while installing something
[02:59] <Lynoure> zander_: if it is installing, you are better off letting it finish on its own in most cases.
[03:00] <zander_> but i dont see the process xD
[03:01] <zander_> how to see what is adept now doing?
[03:06] <koosoli> hello
[03:06] <TeraDyne> hi
[03:07] <lego> Mornin.
[03:07] <koosoli> I have a prob. I have Kubuntu and i wonna start adept updater but it tells me some other adept application is alreay in process so i cant start it, but i didn t install any other packaging systems
[03:08] <TeraDyne> koosoli: maybe you have another Adept session running on another virtual desktop?
[03:09] <koosoli> i don t have any virtual desktops :(
[03:09] <koosoli> isn t it possible to check it in the task manager ?
[03:09] <lego> Minimize all the windows to see if there is a window open for adept that you didn't see before.
[03:10] <lego> Control-escape I believe does the tsk manager.
[03:10] <koosoli> i just rebooted the pc, there is no other window
[03:10] <lego> task
[03:10] <TeraDyne> !aptfix
[03:10] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:10] <lego> Do you see an icon in the tray area that is mentioning updates?
[03:11] <lego> Anyone know how to fix a problem in Penguin Command?
[03:11] <koosoli> not here, but i am now in the kde system guard, and i see all the tasks, what should i look for to kill?
[03:11] <koosoli> ok i try what you sad ubotu .... sec.
[03:12] <TeraDyne> koosoli: ubotu is a bot. I just triggered one of it's sayings.
[03:12] <koosoli> oh ;)
[03:13] <koosoli> what ever I did what the bot sad
[03:13] <koosoli> it found something
[03:13] <koosoli> sun-java-jre
[03:13] <koosoli> error were encountered while processing: sun-java5 -jre
[03:14] <koosoli> lego, yes it tells me it as 3 updates cant start the updater :(
[03:15] <warwick> hello
[03:15] <koosoli> i tried to install java 5 , and it crashed after that this problem started
[03:16] <TeraDyne> koosoli: that would be a problem in itself. Try using "sudo apt-get install -f" in konsole.
[03:17] <koosoli> okay, it is doing something ...
[03:17] <koosoli> hope this helps, thank you so far :)
[03:18] <lego> I think, as usual, I will scrap this Lincrap and go back to Windows.  There is nothing but problems, and more poblems.
[03:18] <TeraDyne> lego: ?
[03:18] <lego> I tried loading Beryl and all I get is white, but I did see the diamond on the top and bottom.
[03:19] <lego> Penguin Command I can't play.
[03:19] <koosoli> do you have an ati grafic card ?
[03:19] <wolferine> lego, just cause Beryl doesnt work is NO reason to go back to windows
[03:19] <lego> Nvidia GeForce FX 5200
[03:19] <TeraDyne> lego: ever hear of Compiz Fusion?
[03:19] <lego> No.
[03:19] <wolferine> lego what tutorial did you use to install the drivers?
[03:19] <lego> None.
[03:19] <koosoli> or the new kde 4 got also nice fxs
[03:19] <wolferine> and which drivers
[03:19] <lego> This is a fresh install of Kubuntu.
[03:20] <TeraDyne> lego: it's the new app after the merger of the beryl and compiz projects.
[03:20] <wolferine> lego maybe you need to do some reading
[03:20] <wolferine> lego google 'ubuntu guide'
[03:20] <wolferine> it gives instructions on loading lots of common apps
[03:20] <koosoli> TeraDyne, my problem is solves, thank you so much
[03:20] <wolferine> including nvidia drivers
[03:21] <wolferine> it will get your box up and running with most apps you need
[03:21] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Glad to hear that.
[03:22] <koosoli> what was the reason why it didn t worked TeraDyne ?
[03:22] <Evolution2> hey guys. i was wondering what "checking sensors" means after a forced disk check on reboot. i have IFS Drives and i transferred a large file from windows to the linux partition. but i had to move it beck because it told me that there is an error and that i need to instal "apt" which i already have. i would like to know what to do if i want to move large files interpartitions
[03:24] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Java's crashing made it so that you needed to finish the installation. Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to install anything else via apt or adept.
[03:24] <TeraDyne> koosoli: that command I gave forces the installer to finish.
[03:25] <koosoli> adept should handle crashes better so you would never need to use a terminal to solve such problems ...hmm
[03:26] <TeraDyne> koosoli: I agree with that. If I knew where to go to request such a feature, I'd got there and post in a hurry.
[03:26] <BluesKaj> Morning All
[03:26] <TeraDyne> Morning BluesKaj
[03:27] <koosoli> hopefully the new CNR will be better in such matters
[03:27] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: ?
[03:27] <BluesKaj> hi TeraDyne
[03:27] <koosoli> it should come out soon, i am currious
[03:27] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: Mozilla free?
[03:28] <BluesKaj> following the sage advice by jhutchins running konq & kmail
[03:29] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: I've been doing that for the last month. I still need SeaMonkey for a few things, though. Like Nintendo.com >_>;
[03:29] <BluesKaj> TeraDyne, Konq is the safest browser bar none
[03:29] <BluesKaj> yeah, i still have opers for a few things if needed
[03:29] <BluesKaj> opera
[03:30] <Lynoure> My wild guess would be that lynx or w3m is the safest, but I bet you meant graphical thingies.
[03:30] <koosoli> opera is very slow isn't it ?
[03:30] <BluesKaj> not really
[03:31] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Opera? No, not really. It's slower than SeaMonkey, but not slow in general.
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> I find opera pretty quick
[03:31] <BluesKaj> it's abit more feature loaded than most ..could be why
[03:31] <koosoli> http://www.apple.com/safari/
[03:31] <koosoli>  aplle things opera is slow ;)
[03:32] <lego> I give up.  Take care all.
[03:32] <koosoli> i think the new firefox 3 will kick a*
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yeah , tried safari ...totally boring ...it works but even i couldn't stand it's look ..and I'm not real picky about graphicals
[03:33] <lego> I will be checking out Linux a little more, then scrapping it.
[03:33] <lego> Its not worth the irritation.
[03:33] <koosoli> maybe try onther distro ?
[03:33] <TeraDyne> koosoli: I stopped using Firefox after 1.5 . It got too clunky and hogged memory.
[03:33] <koosoli> like freespire they have propritary graphic drivers, maybe that works better for you
[03:34] <TeraDyne> lego: There are plenty of other distros that might make it easier. head over to  http://distrowatch.com if you want to see what else there is.
[03:34] <koosoli> yeah firefox can use a lot of memory, what do you use ?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> well, I'm merely doing the purist approach as an experiment , I haven't configured my fav bookmarks in the toolbar yet but I'll eventually figure it out
[03:34] <koosoli> www.freespire.org  i would take a look on that one, and it is also a very userfrendly distro
[03:34] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Konqueror is my main browser, and SeaMonkey Suite is my Gecko-based browser.
[03:34] <lego> I've tried others, but its always the same old stuff.  Linux is just too advanced for me to use.
[03:35] <BluesKaj> konq here
[03:35] <lego> Its always one problem or another.  Might be the PC.
[03:35] <koosoli> the first time i saw it was  1 hoer ago when i installed kubuntu
[03:35] <koosoli> why is it better than firefox ?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> lego, stick around ...we know it can be frustrating at times but you'll begin to undestand soon enuff why ppl like kubuntu ,,if you need help, just ask :)
[03:38] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Konqueror or SeaMonkey?
[03:38] <kaic> i'm in konsole trying to use the cmd mkdir /root/build but it returns "denyed permission"
[03:38] <kaic> why?
[03:38] <koosoli> Konqueror
[03:38] <_4strO> kaic you cant write in the root directory except if you're root :p
[03:38] <lego> I tried adding repositories to Adept to see about adding the new nvidia drivers and now adept won't start, it just crashes.
[03:38] <TeraDyne> kaic: you need root level permissions to do so. use "sudo <command>"
[03:38] <_4strO> kaic: so you have to : sudo mkdir /root/build
[03:38] <koosoli> kaic try with "sudo" in front of the comand
[03:38] <kaic> ok tkz u all
[03:38] <_4strO> kaic: think you shouldn't have to write in this dir
[03:38] <kaic> _4strO: but it's one of the steps to create an e-mail server
[03:38] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Konqueror is much faster under KDE than Firefox, and it's much safer than FF, as BluesKaj mentioned earlier.
[03:39] <koosoli> hmm...
[03:39] <koosoli> okay I will use it for the next days
[03:39] <aantn> why is it safer (I wasn't here)
[03:39] <koosoli> it seems really fast, thats true
[03:39] <CapNemo> hello kubuntists :)
[03:39] <TeraDyne> koosoli: There is a drawback. Many sites that use scripting won't work as well. Gmail is a good example of that.
[03:40] <lego> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[03:40] <TeraDyne> !aptfix | lego
[03:40] <ubotu> lego: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:41] <koosoli> TeraDyne gmail works for me on Konqueror
[03:41] <koosoli> version 3.5.7
[03:42] <lego> Didn't work
[03:42] <TeraDyne> koosoli: Yes, but it doesn't have a lot of the options. It brings up the "unsupported browser" version of Gmail, at least for me.
[03:42] <aznpridechinese> does anyone have a link on how to setup a sound blaster sound card with alsa?
[03:43] <koosoli> everything seems to be there even google talk
[03:43] <aznpridechinese> someone gave me a link once and it made my sound card work but i can't find it anymore, and none of the other links have instructions that work
[03:43] <MilhousePunkRock> TeraDyne: You just need to set a different browser identification
[03:44] <kaic> what sould i do if i wanty to copy a file to a /root/download ?
[03:44] <TeraDyne> MilhousePunkRock: Ok. I'll try that.
[03:44] <Skyrail> Anyone got a link to a good site with info about setting up Kubuntu as a DHCP server?
[03:44] <koosoli> any chance that the new kubuntu will get such a nice start menu like opensuse has ?
[03:44] <lego> I still get the same error.
[03:47] <kaic> why can't i copy in to a root folder?
[03:47] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: Take a look at this: http://secunia.com/product/3166/?task=advisories
[03:47] <kaic> *copy a file
[03:49] <koosoli> okay, I gotta go, thank so much for the help, i will stick around more often here bye bye
[03:50] <kaic> what's the cmd line to unmake a folder?
[03:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, thx TeraDyne , I'll keep that in mind ...don't think my bank sites use flash tho ..as one example of vulnerability
[03:50] <aznpridechinese> can someone please help?
[03:50] <lego> What does this mean: "Malformed line 44 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)"?
[03:53] <dromer> what is a good firewall-manager for KDE?
[03:54] <dromer> is guarddog any good?
[03:55] <TeraDyne> Well, I was going to try and help lego... >_>;
[03:55] <dromer> hmm, apt-get install of guarddog gives: Unable to start guarddog firewall - /etc/rc.firewall does not exist
[03:58] <BluesKaj> lego scroll down your sources list , as you do so the textbox at the bottom of the page indicates the line number ...copy and paste it here
[03:59] <TeraDyne> dromer: I've heard firestarter is pretty good. I don't use on-system firewalls, though.
[03:59] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: he left.
[03:59] <BluesKaj> oh, no patience
[04:00] <dromer> TeraDyne: wel, I'm trying to configere SynCE .. but it can't see my usb-PDA properly .. so I'm thinking maybe it's blocked somewhere ..
[04:00] <BluesKaj> was busy getting coffee ...too bad , he must be used to instant gratification
[04:00] <TeraDyne> BluesKaj: And I was off getting something to eat.
[04:01] <BluesKaj> <--- behind a router , solves some probs
[04:01] <TeraDyne> dromer: if it's connected via usb, then I doubt your firewall is blocking it.
[04:01] <dromer> ok, well .. I'm having trouble getting synce-serial-start to recognise it
[04:01] <dromer> anyone here experience with SynCE ?
[04:01] <Soul> Hi! i'm new to this but realy be grateful if anyone can help me understand why
[04:02] <dromer> using this guide btw: http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/kde/synce-kde-basic-configuration.php
[04:02] <Soul> when I dont use ubuntu for long time
[04:02] <dromer> I can't seem to get:
[04:02] <dromer> Serial connection established.
[04:02] <dromer> oeps
[04:02] <Soul> my firefox crashes
[04:03] <dromer> crahes or hangs?
[04:03] <aznpridechinese> can someone please help me with sound card?
[04:03] <Soul> hangs
[04:03] <TeraDyne> Soul: Are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[04:03] <dromer> though firefox it easy to kill and reload
[04:03] <Soul> kubuntu
[04:03] <dromer> Soul: firefox tends to hog cpu and ram over long periods of time
[04:03] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, hey , what's up ?
[04:03] <Soul> it only happens when i leave the computer running
[04:04] <dromer> Soul: just sudo killall firefox-bin and restart it, it'll reload all your pages .. and use less ram ;)
[04:04] <TeraDyne> Soul: ok. I thought you said ubuntu.
[04:04] <Soul> sorru about that
[04:04] <aznpridechinese> can't get my sound to work, a week ago someone gave me a link to setup my sound card and it worked but i can't find that link
[04:04] <aznpridechinese> and i've reinstalled linux about 20 times since i got it to work
[04:06] <dromer> haha, why? :P
[04:07] <kaic> what do i need to compile a program in kubuntu?
[04:07] <dromer> hmm, firestarter sucks pretty bad btw .. can't even add anything to external zones etc.
[04:07] <Soul> One more help please. i'v been searching every where to make a floorplan using dia or kivio but cant find any floorplan stensils can anyone help
[04:07] <dromer> kaic: stuff
[04:08] <dromer> kaic: depends on the program :P  if you are lucky, the ./configure will give detailed output on which packages you need
[04:08] <pag> !b-e | kaic
[04:08] <ubotu> kaic: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)