[10:24] <elacheche> nzoueidi hey
[12:13] <nzoueidi> hey elacheche
[12:13] <nzoueidi> I was reading your e-mail :(


[01:47] <fallenour> asdf
[10:19] <fallenour> o/
[11:53] <fallenour> o/
[14:19] <fallenour> created a second account for backup admin, juju controller isnt present, I know I need to use juju register to connect. Is there a manual for this?
[14:25] <rick_h> fallenour: a bunch :) https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/tut-users and https://jujucharms.com/docs/stable/users
[14:35] <fallenour> @rick_h I see that the guide shows me how to create a new controller via bootstrap, but what I specifically need to do is add my second admin account to the current controller. is there a guide specific for that?
[14:35] <rick_h> fallenour: you create a user and grant them admin rights on the controller model
[14:35] <rick_h> fallenour: you said you added a user and the guide goes through granting access
[14:36] <magicaltrout> anyone tried changing docker storage driver in CDK?
[14:38] <fallenour> rick_h: how do I identify the controller model though? Im on the box with both admin accounts, 1 can see the controller and all the models, 1 cannot. Do I add the account for the other account?
[14:39] <rick_h> fallenour: I'm not following. The model is called controller. If you juju list-models it has the names and the grant command takes the model name as an argument to the command
[14:39] <rick_h> fallenour: I'm not sure what identification you're looking for other than the name "controller"
[14:40] <rick_h> fallenour: https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.2/users-models#controller-access might be a bit more specific in the docs around this use case
[14:40] <rick_h> fallenour: I see, I think you're looking for granting superuser to the second account
[14:41] <fallenour> rick_h: Built out as follows: MAAS00 <> Juju00 <> >>> Admin1 has full juju access >>> Admin2 has no juju access at all, cant see controllers, models, clouds
[14:41] <fallenour> rick_h: I think so?
[14:41] <rick_h> fallenour: right, so please look at the link above and see if that makes sense
[14:52] <fallenour> rick_h: ok so I gave my 2nd admin account read and write access to the model of admin1, as well as I gave them superuser on the controller, but I still dont see the model listed. Ideas?
[14:52] <fallenour> "ERROR current model for controller conjure-up-cloud-maas-a50-f6c not found"
[14:52] <rick_h> fallenour: so juju whoami
[14:53] <fallenour> rick_h: Controller:  conjure-up-cloud-maas-a50-f6c Model:       <no-current-model> User:        lhicks
[14:54] <rick_h> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25586651/
[14:54] <rick_h> fallenour: ^
[15:21] <cory_fu> marcoceppi: https://github.com/juju/charm-tools/pull/345
[15:22] <cory_fu> When you have a minute
[15:29] <cory_fu> What in the world does this error mean?
[15:29] <cory_fu> ERROR cannot upload charm: verification failed: failed to decrypt caveat 1 signature: decryption failure
[15:35] <xarses_> is your system time way off?
[16:17] <fallenour> rick_h: Ok so it updated finally, I see the models, now i just need to figure out how to connect to the specific one, and Im golden?
[16:19] <rick_h> fallenour: so you should be able to juju switch whatever you see in the list models output
[16:21] <cory_fu> When did the unit logs for Juju stop including the stderr from hooks?
[16:22] <fallenour> rick_h: just juju switch <modelID>
[16:22] <fallenour> ?
[16:22] <rick_h> fallenour: yes, whatever name is in juju list-models should work.
[16:24] <rick_h> fallenour: and when you have multiple controllers you can juju switch controller:model
[16:24] <rick_h> To jump directly to models in different controllers
[17:55] <fallenour> uuughhH~
[17:56] <fallenour> rick_h: Can you be my ~/ ^___^
[17:56] <fallenour> rick_h: its finally almost working, 1 apache config away, and ive got magic
[22:30] <xarses_> is there a pre-defined way to build stub|shim charms that are simply data providers to satisfy relations to systems that are deployed outside of juju?


[11:56] <svaksha> In queue : Ubuntu conference in Croatia. Seems good so I am going to approve it. Any objections?
[07:26] <nixternal> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/820
[07:26] <nixternal> anyone with Fridge access check that out. HUGE STORY!
[07:26] <nixternal> needs to be edited and posted


[11:42] <FManTropyx> hi
[11:44] <autumna> hi?
[11:45] <autumna> :)
[12:13] <FManTropyx> uh, I followed the orders on the Contribute web page (join this channel and say hi) :D
[12:38] <autumna> hi and welcome!
[12:39] <autumna> FManTropyx: I should show better practices and use name so that you can se me replying
[12:39] <autumna> you should also join ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list btw, because a good portion of the conversation happens there. :)
[12:40] <autumna> and beyond that if you have any questions I can try to answer them, until sakrecoer or one of the more senior members drop by. (pretty new here)
[16:04] <FManTropyx> is there a donation feature to which I can link?
[16:29] <OvenWerks> FManTropyx: not that I am aware of. It is rather hard for us to deal with money in a right way.
[16:31] <OvenWerks> but if you wait for sakrecoer to be on line he would be better able to tell you.
[16:41] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: from earlier: " < FManTropyx> is there a donation feature to which I can link?"
[16:42] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: do you know off hand if we have any method (or are allowed) to accept donations?
[16:43] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks, not for ubuntustudio, no...
[16:43] <sakrecoer> even the t-shirt money goes to canonical
[16:43] <sakrecoer> well... supposedly at least, i don't even know who administrates that shop, might ttoine
[16:44] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: that was what I thought.
[16:44] <OvenWerks> I think the t-shirts are set so they are zero difference from cost
[16:44] <OvenWerks> (and mugs)
[16:45] <sakrecoer> i try to tell those who ask that they can donate to canonical, or to their favourit apps upstream devels..
[16:45] <OvenWerks> FManTropyx: ^^^^ there is the answer.
[16:45] <sakrecoer> FManTropyx, actualy, getting involved with the team is the best way to give something back to the community
[16:45] <OvenWerks> Upstream would be great :)
[16:46]  * OvenWerks works on an upstream project...
[16:46] <sakrecoer> :) ardour defenitly diserves your donations, FManTropyx :)
[16:47] <sakrecoer> so does many other projects though..
[16:49] <sakrecoer> but yeah, for ubuntustudio specificaly: spread the word, create awesome work and mention ubuntu studio, get involved in the project, write documentation, help packaging... those are a few things that can make a huge difference.
[17:09] <FManTropyx> what's an ardour..? somehow I learned of Ubuntu Studio only a few months ago
[17:10] <sakrecoer> FManTropyx, ardour is made for producing audio/music
[17:15] <OvenWerks> FManTropyx: Ardour is a DAW similar to protools for example.
[17:21] <autumna> FManTropyx what are you interested in working with btw? as in which aspect? (if you have a clear idea)
[17:21] <autumna> is there anything in particular you wanted to contribute to, or just dropped by to just help whatever is needed in etc?
[19:38] <FManTropyx> no
[20:10] <OvenWerks> FManTropyx: from the original message, I get the idea you have a web page and would like to put a spot on it that redirects to something useful to US. Probably just the home page (ubuntustudio.org) would be fine.
[20:10] <OvenWerks> We may not get finacial help that way, but exposure has value too.


[03:42] <Takyoji> Forgot I wasn't in this channel until now. :P
[03:43] <Takyoji> So, any thoughts on the recent voting? :P
[03:45] <kermit> Takyoji: voting?
[03:45] <Takyoji> Health care bill
[03:45] <kermit> Takyoji: try ##economics
[04:05] <netbook> If only people viewed it as a numbers game instead of ideological bs, it would've passed a while ago
[06:54] <kermit> netbook: who cares about liberty, freedom, rights, all that nonesense, as long as i have predictable medical expenses.
[06:54] <kermit> also as a numbers game i'm pretty sure any government run industry fails miserably at that too
[07:07]  * tonyyarusso wishes it was just a sensible single-payer bill already instead of all of this patchy fix nonsense
[17:01] <Takyoji> *facepalm*
[17:01] <Takyoji> Another standards group, and all the documents are in Word format, not even PDF: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/saq/instructions_dss.shtml
[17:02] <Takyoji> At least the specification itself is available as a PDF: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/security_standards/pci_dss_download.html
[17:06] <netbook> kermit, all i am saying is it works well in other countries, costs them less (% of gdp), and we should do the same.
[17:06] <netbook> Oh sorry takyoji, i was being offtopic
[17:06] <Takyoji> It's fine.
[17:09] <netbook> I forget to scroll down in irssi ><
[17:10] <Takyoji> I've done similar before. :P
[17:16] <Takyoji> Is there another way to network a printer other than SAMBA?
[17:16] <Takyoji> (a printer that's connected to a desktop on a network)
[17:22] <netbook> http://localhost:631/
[17:22] <netbook> Might want to check that out
[17:22] <netbook> all I got
[17:36] <Takyoji> A resolver table doesn't need a unique ID at all, correct?
[20:02] <kermit> how many linux users do you suppose there are in minnesota?   yet i've only found 3 real time minnesota linux forums.. here, #tclug, and #mn2600
[20:03] <kermit> i don't think any of these 3 are big enough to be isolated from #tclug
[20:03] <kermit> yet some ppl are in #mn2600 and here but not #tclug
[20:33] <netbook> I am sure there are quite a few, but they don't take the next step and go to linux groups
[20:45] <netbook> I reckon 28,000 users in Minnesota
[20:46] <kermit> i started on linux before ubiquitous internet access, so i had more local peers in linux then in 1997 than now
[20:46] <Takyoji> It would be interesting to tally how many people at each installfest.
[20:46] <kermit> actually i had more local peers of any sort in 1997 than now, i still havent recovered from the internet
[20:46] <Obsidian1723> Still fixing Bug #1 heh
[20:47] <netbook> haha yea
[20:50] <Obsidian1723> of course the Livid Lynx that is coming out will add to that.
[20:51] <netbook> year of the linux desktop
[20:51] <netbook> i am pretty new to linux, ubuntu was first distro i got serious with ;)
[20:52]  * Takyoji wonders what general region netbook is in.
[20:54] <netbook> I live in the cities
[20:54] <Takyoji> ahh
[20:55] <Takyoji> Ooo http://voices.canonical.com/ubuntuone/?p=263
[21:34] <netbook> Does any have problems installing 'VBox Guest Additions' on a lucid lynx virtualbox vm?
[21:35] <Takyoji> Haven't tried it yet I believe
[21:35] <Takyoji> (considering I just run 10.04 natively)
[21:37] <netbook> I want to check out that music store... wonder how they handle CC info.
[21:39] <Takyoji> I wonder if it goes on a cart basis or not
[21:40] <Takyoji> If only I had some money in my account right now.


[18:04] <Jeff916> nacc I exit'd the chroot, I'm a noob and this is my first time I have ever had to use chroot. What commands should I use? Thankyou
[18:04] <JustTheDoctor> hopefully it works this time! :)
[18:04] <banzai27> AMEN
[18:05] <banzai27> finger crossed
[18:05] <banzai27> or is it crossed finger
[18:05] <nacc> banzai27: please, no color commentary.
[18:05] <JustTheDoctor> ahhhhh
[18:05] <Henster> hi any body here run apache2 virtula hosts ?
[18:05] <banzai27> im not coloring anything
[18:05] <Henster> *virtual
[18:05] <JustTheDoctor> ok so i think i figured it out!
[18:06] <banzai27> color in my country means underwear...
[18:06] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: oh?
[18:06] <JustTheDoctor> the output.log said node not found, so i changed it to /usr/bin/node
[18:06] <banzai27> just saying
[18:06] <blackflow> Henster: what's the problem?
[18:06] <Henster> i cannot connect to my Virtual hosts from the internet
[18:06] <tgm4883> JustTheDoctor: yep, full paths...
[18:06] <nacc> banzai27: just stay ontopic, and don't make random comments
[18:06] <Henster> it wors internally
[18:06] <sveinse> To mount up a (ubuntu) server directory/home to a local (ubuntu) machine, what is the preferred way of doing this these days? NFS?
[18:06] <blackflow> Henster: what's the exact error?
[18:06] <banzai27> ah.. ok nacc
[18:06] <banzai27> sorry for that
[18:06] <JustTheDoctor> didnt realize the .sh script had to have the full path also ;P
[18:06] <Henster> and my port is open
[18:06] <Aiirborne> ioria this is what that looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554387 maybe thats the wrong xorg ppa
[18:06] <Henster> im using no.ip
[18:06] <banzai27> what is the topic again?
[18:07] <blackflow> Henster: what's the exact error?
[18:07] <Jeff916> @nacc are you still there bud?
[18:07] <Henster> just not opening no error
[18:07] <nacc> Jeff916: something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554394/
[18:07] <ioria> Aiirborne,   using nvida from there ?
[18:07] <nacc> banzai27: see /topic
[18:08] <Jeff916> "nacc You are my hero :D
[18:08] <nacc> banzai27: but i will say, if you were wondering what you did 'wrong' earlier -- behavior like that is why you get banned from IRC channels...
[18:08] <blackflow> Henster: does the traffic reach your server?
[18:08] <Jeff916> @nacc thankyou so much!
[18:08] <Aiirborne> ioria I shouldn't be I only have intel graphics
[18:08] <nacc> Jeff916: np, do you see the logic? it's basically just going backwards through the list you did
[18:08] <blackflow> Henster: I ask what the error is because it's different if DNS is problematic, from no port open, or Apache being misconfigured, etc...
[18:09] <banzai27> nacc: i tried /topic and it said you're not a channel operator
[18:09] <ioria> Aiirborne,   so how come you have xorg-edgers ppa ? (btw i think you need to purge them all )
[18:09] <nacc> banzai27: don't run anyting else, just run '/topic'
[18:09] <nacc> banzai27: you probalby tried to set the topic
[18:09] <Jeff916> @nacc yes bud I understand, I'm trying to learn and thanks to amazing people like you the linux community is what it is :)
[18:09] <banzai27> actually im not getting banned "banned".. just doing things wrong with my nick register
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> banzai27  do you have a technical ubuntu question?
[18:09] <Henster> i checked on this website if the port is open. also im also runnig a open vpn server ,, i checked on the NOIP,com and can see my public ip address
[18:10] <Henster> 'how can i check if the traffic is reaching the server ?
[18:10] <Aiirborne> ioria probably cause I don't know what I'm doing and just copy and paste things from google when I have a problem
[18:10] <blackflow> Henster: with tcpdump
[18:10] <Jeff916> @nacc thanks again bud, got to go now :)
[18:10] <blackflow> Henster: also check if the request is registered in the Apache logs but has errored out
[18:10] <banzai27> monkeydust : as matter of fact yes i do...i tried to set up two monitor on my freshly installed ubuntu 16.04.1 and the screen keeps flickering
[18:10] <ioria> Aiirborne,   can you paste also     /etc/apt/sources.list  ?
[18:11] <banzai27> i set up 1 vga to dvi i filter and 1 vga directly
[18:11] <JustTheDoctor> hmm, that time it didnt log anything
[18:11] <JustTheDoctor> gatta wait another 5 minute's.
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> banzai27  ok, then stick to that question and drop the useless remarks
[18:11] <banzai27> is there a way to fix that
[18:11] <banzai27> useless remarks?
[18:13] <p_d> Say if we want to install any software which is compatible with ubuntu can we always do I through Terminal?
[18:13] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah
[18:13] <p_d> how?
[18:14] <EriC^^> using apt-get and dpkg if you downloaded the packages manually as debs
[18:14] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[18:14] <moongazer> Can anyone help me with my microphone and headphone/
[18:15] <p_d> Say I want to download virtual box what will I do?
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> p_d  find it in the repos
[18:15] <ioria> Aiirborne,   not sure, but should be a debian package
[18:15] <EriC^^> p_d: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[18:15] <Aiirborne> ioria hopefully this worked http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554420
[18:16] <p_d> Okay
[18:16] <EriC^^> p_d: apt-cache search <package> shows possible packages it found
[18:16] <ioria> Aiirborne,   eb http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
[18:16] <ioria>     .... no good
[18:16] <p_d> Just being curious how to find it in repos MonkeyDust
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> p_d  with apt search [package]
[18:17] <Aiirborne> ioria I had a feeling you would say that when you said it could be something with the ppa
[18:17] <krobzaur> p_d: I would go to the virtualbox webpage and add they repos they rpovide there. The debian one's are a little behind
[18:17] <p_d> should I need to use sudo first? :/
[18:17] <p_d> prefix*
[18:17] <ioria> Aiirborne,   if  i were your, i'll get rid of the ppa and i'll remove whatever you installed from Kali, and remove the source
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> p_d  not for apt-cache
[18:17] <Aiirborne> ioria is there a way to reset ppa to default?
[18:18] <p_d> okay thanks
[18:18] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ppa-purge
[18:18] <Aiirborne> ioria ok
[18:18] <ioria> !info ppa-purge
[18:18] <EriC^^> install it and purge the package
[18:18] <ioria> Aiirborne,   ^^
[18:19] <moongazer> Helo guys
[18:19] <moongazer> *help
[18:19] <EriC^^> !details | moongazer
[18:19] <p_d> Eric^^ if I do sudo apt-get install virtualbox ..wil it install suitable version for me like I see there are two kind of download i386 and amd64?
[18:20] <moongazer> EriC^^, There is a hissing sound coming from my headphones
[18:20] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah it should download the right one for your pc
[18:20] <p_d> okay
[18:20] <moongazer> EriC^^, Any headphone attached to my laptop does it. Also, the headphone works properly everywhere else
[18:20] <EriC^^> moongazer: no idea
[18:21] <ViciousLooRoll> can someone point me to the bash on ubuntu on windows channel? i cant seem to locate it
[18:21] <Aiirborne> ioria I think I messed up big http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554439
[18:21] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: which ubuntu version?
[18:21] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | ViciousLooRoll
[18:22] <moongazer> EriC^^, Oh god
[18:22] <moongazer> no
[18:22] <ioria> Aiirborne,   it's the same as before
[18:22] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ 16.04
[18:22] <graphitemaster> is there a way to determine (from the command line) if there is a distribution upgrade?
[18:22] <ioria> Aiirborne,   you mean, you cannot install ppa-purge ?
[18:22] <graphitemaster> I'm trying to automate some things here and I need a way to test if there is an upgrade, not actually perform it.
[18:22] <Aiirborne> ioria correct
[18:22] <EriC^^> moongazer: try alsamixer and pavucontrol
[18:22] <graphitemaster> just report that there is an available distribution upgrade really.
[18:22] <JustTheDoctor> cron is working THANKS everyone
[18:22] <EriC^^> moongazer: check settings > sound
[18:23] <EriC^^> in the system settings in ubuntu
[18:23] <ioria> Aiirborne,   you can try   sudo apt-get -f install
[18:23] <moongazer> EriC^^, I have already done all that
[18:23] <ViciousLooRoll> Bashing-om: cheers
[18:23] <nacc> graphitemaster: do-release-upgrade -c ?
[18:24] <graphitemaster> nacc, does that return a status like 0 if there is an upgrade and 1 if there isn't?
[18:25] <tgm4883> graphitemaster: Couldn't you just check the release that you are on vs a known list?
[18:25] <nacc> graphitemaster: returns 0 if there is, 1 if not, yeah
[18:25] <nacc> graphitemaster: based upon reading the source code, you might want to verify that for yourself
[18:25] <Aiirborne> ioria nope no luck
[18:26] <ioria> Aiirborne,   stuck at keyboard-configuration ?
[18:27] <Aiirborne> ioria yes
[18:27] <Henster> @blackflow should i not add the domain names to my ubuntu serveras well ?
[18:27] <ioria> Aiirborne,   try to comment with #   the 'Kali' source in /etc/apt/sources.list and rerun sudo apt update
[18:28] <blackflow> Henster: yes the vhost must be for the domain you're requesting, regardless of DNS over no.ip
[18:28] <Aiirborne> ioria I already deleted it  and ran update before I ran -f install
[18:29] <ioria> Aiirborne,   and no luck ...
[18:29] <Aiirborne> ioria correct
[18:30] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: remove the ppa from /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <EriC^^> add a "#" there then run sudo apt-get update
[18:30] <ioria> EriC^^, no ppa in there but in   sources.list.d
[18:30] <EriC^^> oh
[18:31] <EriC^^> comment it out there Aiirborne ^
[18:31] <ioria> Aiirborne, do that.... try
[18:31] <kubi> hello
[18:31] <Aiirborne> sorry comment out which one? I deleted the kali one
[18:32] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ok, run sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: type apt-cache policy systemd
[18:33] <EriC^^> !info systemd
[18:33] <EriC^^> !info systemd xenial
[18:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: is it 229-4 as above?
[18:34] <kubi> whats up people?
[18:34] <ioria> Aiirborne, it's not enough remove the kali source , you need to remove  what you installed from there
[18:34] <SpeccyMan> the sky, the stars, the moon
[18:35] <kubi> ooh yes!! <SpeccyMan>
[18:35] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554503
[18:36] <ioria> Aiirborne, Katoolin .... that's is diffucult to revert, i guess
[18:36] <Aiirborne> ioria I'm not not sure what I installed I was messing around with Katoolin
[18:36] <Aiirborne> guess that was a bad idea
[18:37] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: perfect
[18:37] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get -f install again
[18:37] <ioria> Aiirborne, yep....  do you have backups ?
[18:37] <EriC^^> !info console-setup-linux
[18:38] <EriC^^> !info keyboard-configuration xenial
[18:38] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: does apt-cache policy keyboard-configuration give you 1.108 ?
[18:40] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554515
[18:40] <ioria> Aiirborne,  do you have backups ?
[18:41] <Aiirborne> ioria no.. nothing very import on here though except some family photos
[18:41] <Henster> @blackflow im editing the /etc/hosts file to <IP_ADDRESS>  ( can i add more than one name here next to exh other )
[18:42] <ioria> Aiirborne,  we can try to manually purge that .... but idk what may happen
[18:42] <elmoustacho> hello
[18:43] <Aiirborne> ioria how bad could it be
[18:43] <Aiirborne> could i get a clean install done from what I have right now?
[18:43] <elmoustacho> I would like to know if it's highly recommended to install "intel-microcode" or if it may cause bugs, thanks :)
[18:44] <ioria> Aiirborne,  i think kali broke your system
[18:44] <Aiirborne> ioria well that's fun :/
[18:45] <ioria> Aiirborne,  you can use   sudo dpkg -P keyboard-configuration    but i'm sure it'll fail
[18:46] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: maybe if you ppa-purge the packages you installed from kalitools?
[18:46] <Aiirborne> ioria yea weirdly it says it is not installed
[18:47] <ioria> EriC^^,  he cannot install ppa-purge
[18:47] <EriC^^> really a reinstall would be easier if you dont mind
[18:47] <EriC^^> ioria: ah right, doh xO
[18:47] <ioria> EriC^^,  heheheheh
[18:47] <ioria> Aiirborne,  what you mean ?
[18:47] <p_d> Okay say I want to install a server/package I run sudo apt-get install <package> but before I want to know which version its going to install it? Is their any way to do that?
[18:48] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah, apt-cache policy <package> shows the version and which repo it's taking it from
[18:49] <Aiirborne> ioria when I try to purge keyboard-configuration it says warning: ignoring request to remove keyboard-configuration which isn't installed
[18:49] <yocs0000> p_d: or apt-cache show <package> if you want the whole block of information available
[18:49] <derdiedasda> Hello, as math homework for school, I have to write a proof about the geometric series, as far as I know it ist not possible to do that with libre office, could anyone tell me the name of a freeware programm, where I can write things like the sum formula? - Thanks in advance. :)
[18:50] <ioria> Aiirborne,  dpkg -l | grep keyboard-configuration
[18:51] <Aiirborne> ioria http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554545
[18:51] <nacc> derdiedasda: you probably want latex or similar
[18:51] <nacc> derdiedasda: although i think libre may be able to do fancy symbols, never tried
[18:52] <moongazer> Hello, I need help to fix my speakers.
[18:52] <nacc> derdiedasda: if you don't want to learn LaTeX (although I'd recommend it if you're doing math-y stuff long-term), you can use LyX
[18:53] <p_d> EriC^^ yocs0000 I tried it to do with vagrant the latest version 1.9.0 and when I tried to run apt-cache policy vagrant it shows "1.8.1+dfsg-1 500" does this its not gonna download the latest one?
[18:54] <derdiedasda> nacc I'm doing it only for school, it's my last year, I won't do that stuff long-term, thanks for the help, I will google both and try them.
[18:54] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah
[18:54] <p_d> ohh ..shoudld it download the latest from official site?
[18:55] <EriC^^> p_d: if you want it yeah sure
[18:55] <p_d> can I install .deb through teminal?
[18:55] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah, sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[18:55] <Aiirborne> ioria can I manually get the 1.108 keyboard config dependency or something
[18:55] <p_d> thank you
[18:55] <EriC^^> np
[18:56] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: try sudo apt-get purge keyboard-configuration
[18:56] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: the problem is that there's also the systemd dependency stuff too
[18:57] <p_d> Isnt Ubuntu and Debian are similar as it doesnt show option for Ubuntu?
[18:57] <EriC^^> feels like trying to run around one's own tail
[18:57] <p_d> to download
[18:57] <nacc> p_d: it is not recommended to mix Debian and Ubuntu
[18:57] <EriC^^> p_d: yeah same thing for downloads
[18:58] <p_d> okay
[19:13] <Aiirborne> ioria so I just rebooted and grub is saying I have kali installed... :/
[19:21] <Aiirborne> ioria should I do this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554642
[19:24] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ what do you think?
[19:24] <yocs0000> p_d: I do not know vagrant but that is the version you get from repository .... do you need a specific version?
[19:26] <ubuntu778> hi guys. stupid question im not able to get anywhere with GRUB. i followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Recover_Grub but all i ever get is the grub menu
[19:26] <moongazer> nicomachus, hey
[19:27] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: seems like it will break
[19:27] <ubuntu778> does anyone know why it stopped showing ubuntu as my OS?
[19:27] <ubuntu778> 12.04 if it matters
[19:27] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: probably best to back up at this point and reinstall and bite the bullet
[19:27] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: you get a grub> prompt?
[19:27] <ubuntu778> yes
[19:28] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: type "ls -l"
[19:28] <ubuntu778> no matter what i type there it doesn't show though. only thing the keyboard takes is enter (which gives me a new line)
[19:28] <EriC^^> odd, try booting a live usb
[19:28] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ i wish I could I'm stuck in a hotel cause my car broke down on the way back home from thanks giving :/ I need to do my school work
[19:28] <ubuntu778> im currently in a live cd now
[19:29] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Show the channel what you are working with , from a liveUSB pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' . See what we can do to get you booted .
[19:29] <ubuntu778> but the options it gives me to recover a broken system ; none of them seem to apply
[19:29] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: any live usb?
[19:29] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I usually bring one but this would be the time I didn't
[19:29] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: type "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999" in a terminal and paste the link it gives you here
[19:30] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om/eric i dunno where to type that i get: http://imgur.com/VNyFxt6
[19:30] <ubuntu778> shell is just 'busybox' not proper shell
[19:30] <ubuntu778> so i cant do things like gpart
[19:31] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: is that the server iso?
[19:31] <ubuntu778> yes. its headless server. not desktop
[19:32] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: maybe download an iso real quick and use grub to boot it to get the school work done
[19:32] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778:T hat looks to be a server ( ir minimal ) install medium .. We need to use a desktop medium .
[19:33] <ubuntu778> so 'desktop' version then?
[19:33] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ grub can boot from an iso saved on the computer?
[19:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: yeah it can boot it usually
[19:33] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[19:34] <ubuntu778> thats 404 for me.
[19:34] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ wow so I can reinstall this way as well?
[19:34] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: the link above?
[19:34] <ubuntu778> downloading desktop ver tho
[19:34] <ubuntu778> yes
[19:35] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: try to execute the shell and then try lsblk
[19:35] <ubuntu778> error 500 now. but im downloading 'desktop' version now
[19:35] <ubuntu778> ok
[19:35] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: yeah
[19:35] <ubuntu778> lsblk not found. #busybox things.
[19:35] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: you'd need to have the iso on another partition though
[19:35] <EriC^^> i think
[19:40] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: try downloading the 14.04, i haven't had much luck before with 16.04 and grub booting
[19:40] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: what does your partition table look like? try sudo parted -l
[19:41] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554720
[19:42] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: perfect, you can use the swap partition for grub
[19:43] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: sudo swapoff -a
[19:43] <CDO> Hey guys just quick question.  If I have Ubuntu on my SSD and I have a storage hard drive.  If i want to reinstall Ubuntu I should be fine wiping the SSD and keeping the storage hard drive untouched?
[19:44] <EriC^^> then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5
[19:44] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554730
[19:45] <Bashing-om> CDO: Yep . just be aware of what you tell the installer .
[19:45] <CDO> Bashing-om: Just to wipe that certain partition?  And if I'm going to install Windows it shouldn't matter either should it?
[19:47] <l0c0sp> Boa tarde ara todos
[19:47] <Bashing-om> CDO: Well, depends on what the system identifies and what options you use to RE-install . A "install alongside" will default to the 1st hard drive that is "generally" known as sda . A 'sudo parted -l " so you "know" what is .
[19:48] <CDO> Hmm okay maybe I'll come back when I'm ready to reinstall
[19:48] <CDO> Thank you!
[19:49] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda5
[19:49] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: also type sudo nano /etc/fstab and add a "#" to the line that says swap in it
[19:49] <EriC^^> then save and exit with ctrl+x
[19:49] <EriC^^> *add a "#" to the start of the line
[19:51] <milkaaxx> hi, can i assign IP to a linux user only?
[19:52] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ http://paste.ubuntu.com/23554753
[19:53] <problem> can someone port me to the german channel please
[19:54] <Bashing-om> CDO: Good deal, we are here to help . A stitch in time saves 9 .
[19:54] <milkaaxx> hey, i need my all my users to use their assigned ip, 20 users on 20 ips, is it possible?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> !de | problem
[19:55] <problem> danke
[19:55] <moongazer> how do I remove mic static?!
[19:55] <marov> what would make an interface name change to eth0@ifxx where xx is an integer (this is in an ubuntu docker container)
[19:56] <funkster> How would i detect on the system if my ubuntu server is direct connected to another computer verses a switch? anything in ifconfig output?
[19:57] <ubuntu778> ok EriC^^ / Bashing-om - im in terminal again
[19:57] <blackflow> milkaaxx: assigned how?
[19:57] <blackflow> funkster: maybe through MAC address in the IP header
[19:58] <Bashing-om> funkster: ' ip route show ' work for ya ?
[19:58] <milkaaxx> blackflow, i sell an account, i give him an IP address, the user can only use that even if there are 20 in ifconfig...
[19:58] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: terminal on a liveUSB ? or in the install ?
[19:59] <funkster> Bashing-om: i'd have to test in a bit, but you saying the route output would be different then connected to switch?
[19:59] <ubuntu778> liveusb
[19:59] <blackflow> milkaaxx: use how? to make daemons listen on? for outbound traffic?
[19:59] <den_lesnov> den_lesnov
[20:00] <milkaaxx> blackflow, yea, lets say they start a bouncer on <IP_ADDRESS>, it will only listen to his ip, and when he connects to irc, no /bvhost needed
[20:00] <Bashing-om> funkster: Well . will show the IP of the other end . now it cn not tell you what that IP is . weather it is another vomouter, a router or a switch . Here you need to know what is on your network .
[20:00] <blackflow> milkaaxx: yes through a container of some kind, lxd, lxc, ...
[20:01] <blackflow> milkaaxx: then you assign one IP per container
[20:01] <milkaaxx> blackflow, what should i google .. to start?:D
[20:01] <blackflow> milkaaxx: LXD
[20:01] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: I have lost where we are . catch me up with what we are working with . Pastebin ' sudo parted -l ' .
[20:01] <milkaaxx> blackflow, thanks
[20:02] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om: is a pm easier? lots of traffic in here
[20:02] <gebruiker> plymouth does makes the monitor flicker and eventually turn off for a while and then turn on again upon checking /dev/sda1. The only time plymouth is displayed correctly is when shutting down or rebooting
[20:02] <gebruiker> I am running xenial
[20:03] <ioria> funkster, sudo nmap -sP <IP_ADDRESS>/24   (or your subnet)   tells you something ?
[20:03] <ubuntu778> Bashing-om: http://imgur.com/a/bsZiU
[20:03] <milkaaxx> blackflow, it's a virtual machine..
[20:04] <funkster> ioria: i need to detect if machine is connected to another computer TO set an ip correctly.
[20:04] <blackflow> milkaaxx: doesn't matter, you can have LXD containers in a VM too.
[20:04] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Not better, that peer review ( EriC^^ _ is good to have and as well the edification of all looking over our shoulders. If the parts and joins are  problem you can set in your irc client to ignore them .
[20:05] <ubuntu778> its webclient so i have no idea how. but that doesn't matter.
[20:05] <ubuntu778> basically GRUB shows nothing- i can't type in grub when it boots. its installed and doesn't load my OS. i'm running server 12.04
[20:05] <ubuntu778> but i'm currently booted using livecd "desktop" version of 12.04; and i linked gpart here http://imgur.com/a/bsZiU
[20:05] <ubuntu778> parted* not gpart
[20:07] <Bashing-om> ubuntu778: Ouch .. I can not relate with your install - LVM  - . I do not know anything about LVM and perhaps encryption . EriC^^  ???
[20:08] <milkaaxx> blackflow, thank you
[20:09] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: try sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 sda5_crypt
[20:10] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: sorry to be a problem but whats that doing exactly? i need the data to be untouched.
[20:13] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: decrypting the partition
[20:14] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: okay. sorry to be dense but my issue is grub not detecting the os? i just want to make sure we're doing the right thing
[20:15] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: yeah, we're on the same page, we need to decrypt the partition to chroot and reinstall grub and whatnot
[20:15] <ubuntu778> okay thanks.
[20:16] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: "device is not a valid luks device"
[20:16] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: it's not an encrypted partition?
[20:16] <ubuntu778> no; its on a datastore
[20:17] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: ok, type sudo apt-get install lvm2
[20:18] <ubuntu778> hm ill have to connect it to the internet.. which.. is far away
[20:18] <ubuntu778> my closest internet is two switches away haha.
[20:19] <Aiirborne> well EriC^^ I downloaded 14.04 then moved it to the new partition but when I tried to boot it from grub it wasn't there and it's not on the new partition now either not sure what happened but I'm downloading again
[20:20] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: how did you move it to the partition?
[20:20] <hhee> guys, does vim vundle or another packages manager available in ubuntu repos? 16.04
[20:21] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ mounted the partition to /mnt and then mv .iso mnt
[20:22] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: does /etc/crypttab have anything?
[20:24] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I don't see a crypttab
[20:24] <Bashing-om> hhee: Huh ? rephrase for me ?
[20:24] <EriC^^> ubuntu778: hmm
[20:25] <EriC^^> Aiirborne: ok
[20:25] <Pici> hhee: no, you'd need to install them manually.
[20:25] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ this time I am downloading it straight to the mount point that will work right?
[20:25] <ubuntu778> EriC^^: ok i have lvm2 installed now
[20:26] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: ubuntu778 Not much help here .. but the only time I have seen LVM on a single disk is when encryption is employed .
[20:27] <ubuntu778> i didn't setup the system; so i'm not sure if/what its encrypted
[20:29] <Dlabz> Hi, all. I got my self in a bit of a mess, hoping someone can help me, though I probably don't deserv it :D
[20:30] <cn28h> what kind of mess is that?
[20:30] <Dlabz> I have a ubuntu server running 13.04
[20:30] <ioria> no good
[20:30] <nicomachus> !ask | Dlabz
[20:31] <Dlabz> nicomachus: sorry, but I know that asking for out of support version is a problem
[20:31] <aruns> Hi, I am having an issue with Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:31] <nicomachus> yea you need to upgrade, Dlabz
[20:31] <nicomachus> can't get support until you do.
[20:31] <Dlabz> yup, but doesn't work
[20:31] <Dlabz> so, I need help to upgrade
[20:31] <ioria> Dlabz, what does not work ?
[20:32] <aruns> I've had it fine for the past month or so since upgrading from 15.10, but last night Network Manager seemed to break.
[20:32] <Dlabz> release upgrade
[20:32] <aruns> As cannot get wireless connectivity, only wired.
[20:32] <Dlabz> can\t find
[20:32] <nacc> !eolupgrade | Dlabz: did you follow this?:
[20:32] <aruns> Am running apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade at the moment.
[20:32] <Dlabz> cant find files
[20:32] <aruns> I am guessing I need to upgrade to 16.10?
[20:32] <aruns> It's just that whenever I checked, 16.10 wasn't available.
[20:32] <aruns> So I am guessing it would now be available?
[20:33] <nacc> aruns: you never *need* to upgrade to 16.10, at least not for a bug issue
[20:33] <aruns> nacc: But Network Manager isn't allowing me to connect via Wi-Fi, only ethernet.
[20:33] <aruns> And apparently this is a common issue on 16.04.
[20:33] <Dlabz> nacc, no, my ubuntu is so old, it gae me wrong info :D
[20:33] <Dlabz> thanks, I'll try this
[20:33] <younder> Dlabz, Well 13.04 is a long time ago. You would have to go though all the realse upgrades from the sequentially. If you have messed at all with your system it is unlikely to work. I would backup and then do a full reinstall.
[20:34] <nacc> aruns: you could try a 16.10 live session, then, and see if it's fixed
[20:34] <ioria> Dlabz, try the link posted otherwise you need to edit sources.list with the new release name ...
[20:34] <monoum> Hello. Can someone tell me what's up with the upstream redis-server package in Trusty? Why isn't it receiving security backports?
[20:35] <Dlabz> ioria: can you point me to the list, in case I need it later, so I don't need to explain to someone from start?
[20:35] <monoum> It's on 2.8.4. Debian's analogous package is on 2.8.17, and has received multiple security backports
[20:35] <monoum> Most importantly for  CVE-2015-8080
[20:35] <Village> Hello, i was delete all iptables "iptables -F" and now i can't connect to my eggdrop via DCC? It;'s can by that i delete iptables? How i can restore? Thanks
[20:36] <nacc> !info redis-server trusty
[20:36] <ioria> Dlabz,  first backups, of course; then see the link nacc  poste; if it fails,  edit /etc/apt/sources.list and where you see Raring change to Trusty
[20:36] <nacc> monoum: redis-server is in universe
[20:36] <Dlabz> thanks, ioria
[20:36] <nacc> monoum: redis-server only gets updates as performed by the community, not by the security team
[20:37] <ioria> Dlabz,  wait .... the command it's not do-release-upgrade in this case .... but apt-get update , upgrade and dist-upgrade
[20:37] <monoum> nacc: OK, I guess I'm not well-versed in the distinction between universe. I thought that it was primarily a thing about copyright status? I suppose that's multiverse.
[20:37] <nacc> !components | monoum
[20:37] <OerHeks> monoum, if you are so concerned, why not install a newer ubuntu ? redis-server Version 2:3.2.1-1 (yakkety)
[20:38] <tgm4883> OerHeks: honestly, that seems like a terrible answer
[20:38] <monoum> I find it hard to be believe that no one from the community has been concerned about redis 2.8.4 on trusty? I've seen multiple threads online complaining about it without satisfactory outcomes.
[20:38] <Dlabz> thanks, ioria, so far seems to be working with the updated sources
[20:38] <ioria> Dlabz,  ok
[20:38] <monoum> There must be some other political issue preventing the inclusion of important security updates?
[20:39] <tgm4883> monoum: find the bug report?
[20:39] <nacc> monoum: did anyone file a bug? or submit a fix?
[20:40] <nicomachus> monoum: political issue...? no.
[20:40] <nacc> monoum: there are only 9 bugs filed against src:redis right now, nonoe of which relate to security issues in trusty
[20:42] <monoum> Like I said, it's been mentioned several times online, and yes, I checked the bug reports. Here's one that seems like it was automatically closed after a referral to the SecurityTeam (which would be irrelevant as a universe package, apparently) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redis/+bug/1467606
[20:42] <monoum> I guess I just assumed that redis-server is such a widely-used package that this would've come up sooner and have a ready explanation...
[20:43] <nacc> monoum: there was a response for community activity, and then nothing
[20:43] <tgm4883> monoum: you shouldn't just assume that redis-server is such a widely used package
[20:44] <monoum> Usually go to IRC for the ready explanations that exist but are for whatever reason not showing up on Google
[20:45] <monoum> Yeah, I mean, I guess (?) redis-server may not be widely used. Maybe everyone uses a different PPA for redis.
[20:46] <monoum> But OK, thanks for pointing this issue out everyone. I now have clarity on why the 14.04 package is out of date and insecure. I will definitely be thinking about doing something about this. :)
[20:47] <BarBQ> Hi i get this error on ubuntu, Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic).
[20:47] <Dlabz> got it to Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS , thanks ioria and others
[20:47] <someone_> Is there anything official for wxWidget 2.8 (dev)? Because i want to compile a application, and it needs wx 2.8, but i only find 3.0.. (Ubuntu 16.04)
[20:47] <ioria> Dlabz,  good
[20:48] <monoum> BarBQ: That's an SSH authentication failure. It means you don't have the things you need to log in to the server you want. Contact your system administrator to get that stuff.
[20:48] <BarBQ> monoum its a lab machine and i own it.
[20:49] <blackflow> monoum: like switching to Debian? :)
[20:49] <nacc> BarBQ: you might try running `ssh -vvv`
[20:49] <ioria> someone_, 2.8 is for trusty, i guess
[20:49] <BarBQ> Basically i am trying to SSH from ubuntu machine to Centos7 and that is the error i get.
[20:49] <monoum> BarBQ: OK. Configure it correctly. Right now password auth is disabled if you're expecting to input a password. You'll have to update that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config. If you're expecting key auth to work, your key is not enrolled properly on one server or the other. Try Googling for a SSH setup guide.
[20:49] <nacc> !google | monoum: fyi...
[20:49] <nacc> monoum: not that you only said 'google it', but just so you know
[20:50] <monoum> nacc: Good tip, thanks
[20:50] <nacc> someone_: on 16.04, i don't think so, sorry
[20:50] <aruns> Hi.
[20:50] <aruns> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade finished runnning
[20:50] <monoum> Hi.
[20:51] <aruns> But at the moment.
[20:51] <aruns> Still only getting internet access through wired and not wireless.
[20:51] <BarBQ> monoum is there a simple fix?
[20:51] <aruns> On Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:51] <someone_> nacc: So i have to get that version by myself and compile it by myself?
[20:51] <aruns> Has anyone else also been experiencing Network Manager issues on 16.04?
[20:51] <ubuntu> hey
[20:52] <blackflow> aruns: yeah, LinuxActionShow had a rather negative review about that specific issue. Personally haven't had it because I don't wifi.
[20:52] <nacc> someone_: yes, or maybe run your application in a trusty VM or container?
[20:52] <ioria> someone_,  what app ?
[20:53] <someone_> nacc: I visted wx's site and they provide a repo it seems
[20:53] <rhino77> does anyone know how to create a xorg.conf file in 16.04?  any help would be greatly appreciated
[20:53] <someone_> ioria: iMule
[20:53] <nacc> rhino77: you don't generally need to, otherwise if you konw what you're doing, just create it in the normal place
[20:53] <blackflow> rhino77: running Xorg -configure will autodetect hardware and write you a sample xorg.conf in root's homedir
[20:53] <genii> !xorgconf| rhino77
[20:54] <nacc> genii: thanks :)
[20:54] <monoum> BarBQ: the simple fix is probably enabling password auth and logging in with your password. That has security ramifications. This guide has some information that may be useful: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[20:54] <ioria> !info amule xenial
[20:54] <ioria> oh, sorry .. iMule ???
[20:54] <john75077> afternoon all - do we have any lxc / lxd folks in here?
[20:54] <BarBQ> monoum yes reading that :)
[20:54] <blackflow> rhino77: you can just take that file and use it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:54] <rhino77> nacc: I'm trying to do it for the sake of studying the files
[20:54] <someone_> ioria: Yes, iMule is a modified version/fork of (a)Mule
[20:55] <ioria> i see
[20:55] <rhino77> blackflow:  Thanks! I'm going to go try this now.  Your help is greatly appreciated.
[20:55] <lgstate> is there a easy way to turn a ubuntu machine into a "local copy of wikipedia" I don't want to just run mediawiki -- I want it to serve a clone of the latest wikipedia dumps
[20:56] <ioria> someone_,  have you already tried with 3 instead of 2.8 ?
[20:56] <nacc> !crosspost | john75077
[20:56] <someone_> ioria: The build-system compains that it can't find 2.8
[20:56] <blackflow> lgstate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
[20:56] <someone_> ioria: *complains
[20:56] <nacc> john75077: you might also want to use #lxcontainers if you have a specific question
[20:57] <john75077> ok thanks
[20:57] <ioria> someone_,   last  version (14-10-2012)  ???
[20:58] <marov> ´/join #lxcontainers
[20:59] <someone_> ioria: iMule is a maintained fork
[21:00] <ioria> someone_,  the link please ?
[21:01] <Finetundra_> Hey folks, I've got a slight problem.  I do however have an instance of windows installed on a different drive but I'm unable to boot from it as I get thrown into grub rescue mode. What should I do?
[21:01] <someone_> ioria: It's on the I2P-network, http://i2pwiki.i2p/index.php?title=IMule
[21:03] <ioria> someone_,   sy, server not found
[21:03] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: Well, you can try re-installing Windows' boot code from a Windows' recoveryCD .
[21:04] <someone_> ioria: Because it is not on clearnet.. The download i found dated 2016-06-20, so it is still somewhat recent
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  vm
[21:05] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: I don't exactly have one handy. Any other suggestions? I can grab an ISO if I need to but I hope to get this down with what I have one hand
[21:05] <Finetundra_> *on
[21:05] <someone_> ioria: VM?
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  virtual machine
[21:05] <ioria> someone_,  of 14.04
[21:05] <someone_> ioria: I know, but how do you mean it exaclty?
[21:06] <ioria> someone_,  it's like a second OS ... with 2.8 by default
[21:06] <someone_> ioria: Hm, i am not sure if this laptop can handle it, because of low mem and high usage
[21:06] <ioria> !info virtualbox | someone_
[21:06] <ioria> someone_,  how much ram ?
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: Wellll .. maybe - as grub will also boot Windows - install grub from a ubuntu liveUSB ? But I do think the better is to install Windows' boot code natively .
[21:07] <someone_> ioria: 4 GB, and i already tried windows (kvm and vbox), and it was very slow
[21:08] <ioria> someone_,  yeah.... no safe way to install (or rename) 2.8 on xenial
[21:08] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: does a DVD work? My last DVD drive kinda met an unfortunate fate a day or two ago
[21:09] <Finetundra_> *USB
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !boot-repair | Finetundra_
[21:09] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ I got the iso downloaded and created a menuoption for it in grub but when I boot the iso i get a bunch of /dev/sr0: No medium found and sstdin: Not a typewriter
[21:09] <someone_> ioria: Not even when compiling by itself?
[21:09] <Bashing-om> !bootrepair | Finetundra_
[21:10] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: I am told that ^ will also fix Windows' booting .
[21:11] <ioria> someone_,  idk, sorry
[21:11] <someone_> ioria: I'll try it
[21:11] <ioria> someone_,  ok
[21:12] <ioria> someone_,  sometimes just rename the libs, does the trick ...  but not safe
[21:14] <Finetundra_> Bashing-om: Nice that you guys made a tool for it. I'll get cracking. If I have more questions I'll come back
[21:14] <James_Epp> Hey. Maybe weird question. Copied about 8GB to a USB 2.0 flash drive using a live environment of ubuntu. Now I'm wondering .. which is faster but at the same time the safest? Waiting for # sync to complete or can I shutdown? Would shutting down still have to wait for # sync , giving me no change in time waited, but less control?
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Finetundra_: K; Sad that bad things happen .. Good that tools are available to help recovery :)
[21:15] <Finetundra_> See ya fellas
[21:19] <dbkaplun> how can i grep for all "foo" after which "-bar" does NOT follow?
[21:19] <dbkaplun> something like foo(?!-bar)
[21:21] <someone_> dbkaplun: Perl RegEx? Try grep -P
[21:21] <nacc> dbkaplun: i'm not sure POSIX regex has lookahead, you'd need to use a different specification (e.g., perl, python)
[21:21] <dbkaplun> someone_: -bash: !-bar: event not found
[21:22] <someone_> ioria: Do you know in what package a library for opengl is? It tries to find libGL and/or libMesaGL, but cant find it
[21:22] <nacc> dbkaplun: you'd need to do some research on the proper perl regex, of course
[21:22] <nacc> dbkaplun: you are asking for a negative lookahead assertion, iiuc
[21:23] <someone_> dbkaplun: Did you tried putting your regex inbetween ''? like grep -P 'foo(?!-bar)'   because bash tries to interpret the ! specially
[21:24] <dbkaplun> someone_: thanks!
[21:33] <espied> I have a folder located at /storage I created it with root. I would like to be able to access it with other accounts. I tried changing the permissions and owner with chmod -R 644 /storage and  chown -R espied:espied /storage, however i cannot run touch /storage/test.file as my user
[21:33] <espied> what have i got wrong?
[21:33] <Seveas> espied: what's the output of ls -lad /storage ?
[21:34] <espied> drw-r-Sr-- 2 espied espied 4096 Nov 29 19:07 /storage
[21:34] <blackflow> espied: you've set 644 on a directory that should have 755
[21:34] <ash_workz> is apachectl an ubuntu thing?
[21:35] <ash_workz> I mean is that a community 3rd party apache tool?
[21:35] <nacc> ash_workz: i believe apachectl is a debian/ubuntu-ism, yeah
[21:35] <ash_workz> because I don't think #httpd will help me with that
[21:35] <Seveas> ash_workz: no, it's an apache thing :)
[21:35] <ash_workz> nacc: is there a better channel to ask about it
[21:35] <ash_workz> ?
[21:36] <nacc> ash_workz: well, actually, i'm not sure, a2enmod/a2dismod is a debian/ubuntu thing -- apachectl may be an upstream tool
[21:36] <gopnik_> Hi, for some reason my server isn't accepting key based authentication, it just prompts for a password, is there a sshd configuration to enable this?
[21:36] <nacc> ash_workz: what's your question?
[21:36] <Seveas> nacc: ooh, TIL. apachectl is indeed a debianism
[21:36] <ash_workz> nacc: because I am wondering why apachectl -M lists modules as x_module instead of how the mods appear on Apache.org (which is mod_x)
[21:36] <gopnik_> I would like to keep password based auth in addition to key based authentication
[21:36] <gopnik_> Key based auth is just not working at the moment
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: apachectl has the naming hardcoded
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: iirc, it looks at the apache module's ame, then just suffixes _module
[21:37] <blackflow> gopnik_: pastebin your sshd_config
[21:37] <CDO20> Hey guys.  I currently have Ubuntu on my machine and I'm planning to wipe Ubuntu and use Windows.  Ubuntu is on my SSD and I also have a HDD.  If I wipe the SSD to install Windows my HDD should be fine and not lose any data correct?  Here's a paste of fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555183/
[21:37] <ash_workz> okay, but where does it get it's name?
[21:37] <nacc> ash_workz: what are the 'it's in that question?
[21:38] <gopnik_> blackflow, http://pastebin.com/MiyzeQ8Y thanks
[21:38] <Seveas> gopnik_: PubkeyAuthentication yes
[21:38] <ash_workz> because I can't be trying to look if I have a module installed if the pub says "mod_x" and who knows if "x_module" is how apachectl describes it
[21:38] <ash_workz> nacc: ^
[21:39] <Seveas> gopnik_: also, why did you comment out most of the config? That's generally not a good idea
[21:39] <espied> blackflow: i guess my i have understanding of the permissions is incorrect, 755 behaves normally
[21:39] <gopnik_> Seveas, not my server
[21:39] <ash_workz> nacc: would a concrete example help?
[21:39] <CDO20> Sorry bad paste... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555189/
[21:39] <gopnik_> I'm just a root user, friends server
[21:39] <blackflow> gopnik_: under what user are you ssh-ing in?
[21:39] <gopnik_> just my user (gopnik)
[21:39] <nacc> ash_workz: what 'pub' ?
[21:40] <Seveas> gopnik_: in that case just uncomment the PubkeyAuthentication yes line :)
[21:40] <gopnik_> Thanks!
[21:40] <Aiirborne> EriC^^ you still there?
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: also disable PasswordAuthentication, and set UsePAM no
[21:41] <_Sym_> Should I disable tpm in my bios?
[21:41] <gopnik_> blackflow, not my server, the other users need password auth
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: and make sure that your user's .ssh dir and authorized_keys inside are both owned by the user that's ssh-ing in
[21:41] <gopnik_> what about pam?
[21:41] <blackflow> gopnik_: then leave it on
[21:41] <Bashing-om> CDO20: So long as you do not reboot . then sda will not be touched unless you direct so . Does not Windows default to installing to the 1st hard drive (sda ) ?
[21:42] <blackflow> gopnik_: and note that if you allow both, pubkey auth has NO security advantage over passwords
[21:42] <gopnik_> blackflow, I'm doing this for my convinience, not typing in password
[21:42] <blackflow> you might wish to use the Match directive and those users who want pubkey, explicitly disable passwords, to regain the security advantage
[21:42] <gopnik_> I understand the risk of leaving on passwords :(
[21:42] <CDO20> Bashing-om: I haven't tried yet.  Just wanted to make sure it wouldn't be touched.
[21:43] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Also want to make sure that windows will be able to access and use a ext4 type
[21:43] <gopnik_> drwx------.  2 ME  ME             4096 Sep 24 10:13 .ssh are these the correct permissions?
[21:43] <Seveas> gopnik_: yup.
[21:43] <gopnik_> authorized keys has the same permissions
[21:43] <Random832> technically depends on what that dot at the end means
[21:44] <gopnik_> huh, odd, still not working. I will dig into it
[21:44] <Bashing-om> CDO20: If you are just going to RE-install Windows, I do not see how there could be a problem . But the folks in the #windows channel will be better able to advise .
[21:44] <ash_workz> nacc: falling back on a concrete example: "An issue was found in mod_cgid." -- says a scan... I don't know what you call the "CVE-*" links... so I said "pub"... anyway; can I rely on `apachectl -M | grep 'cgid_module'` to tell me if I have mod_cgid?
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: you mean same class, aka 600 ? :)
[21:44] <Random832> gopnik_, are you sure it's in your home dir?
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: the user account has set password and is unlocked?
[21:44] <nacc> ash_workz: why wouldn't you use 'cgid' ?
[21:44] <Seveas> gopnik_: journalctl -xe --identifier sshd
[21:44] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Perfect.  Appreciate the help
[21:44] <Seveas> or from the client ssh -vvv
[21:44] <nacc> ash_workz: or use a | regex
[21:44] <blackflow> gopnik_: ssh won't allow login into passwordless accounts, pubkey or not pubkey, so the user must have set a password and be unlocked (passwd -u ME)
[21:45] <Bashing-om> CDO20: For windows to see ext4 ya got to install the tools on Windows . Does not out of the box .
[21:45] <gopnik_> I have a password
[21:45] <gopnik_> Random832, it is in my home directory
[21:45] <hihi> installation requires that the system have kernel headers.  /lib/modules/4.4.0-21-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system.
[21:45] <hihi> Anyone knows how to fix it  ?
[21:45] <gopnik_> Specifically /home/ME/.ssh
[21:45] <ash_workz> nacc: you mean just grep 'cgid';  that's great and all, but I'm pretty confident there are cases were that may produce undesired results
[21:45] <hihi> uname -a prints good headers
[21:45] <Aiirborne> Can anyone help me boot ubuntu14.04.iso from grub2? I got the grub menu created but when I boot the iso from grub I get "line 46 can't open /dev/sr0 no medium found" and "Could not find the iso reboot to window run chkdsk /r and fully shut down etc etc"
[21:46] <ash_workz> nacc: I mean, basically I just want to check if a particular module listed on apache.org as mod_x is installed (reliably)
[21:46] <gopnik_> debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/gopnik/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:46] <gopnik_> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,password
[21:46] <gopnik_> This seems to stick out on ssh -v
[21:46] <nacc> ash_workz: you're trying to predictively determine if you're affected by a CVE -- it's better to have false positives than false negatives.
[21:46] <nacc> ash_workz: but that's neither here nor there
[21:46] <blackflow> gopnik_: did you read my comment about unlocking the account?
[21:46] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[21:46] <Seveas> gopnik_: good. Does .ssh/authorized_keys on the server match .ssh/id_rsa.pub on the client?
[21:47] <ash_workz> nacc: I'm trying to determine if a CVE is applicable to me
[21:47] <Seveas> Aiirborne: [fair warning, I have no experience booting isos] /dev/sr0 is a real cd drive, shouldn't that be using /dev/loop0 or whichever loop device you chose to mount the iso?
[21:47] <Bashing-om> hihi: ^^ Package system broke ? or not updated as the above is the kernel you should be up on .
[21:47] <CDO20> Bashing-om: Hmm okay.  And there's no way to change EXT4 to NFTS without formatting the drive correct?
[21:47] <nacc> ash_workz: i think in general, apachectl outputs "module name"_module for all apache modules
[21:47] <gopnik_> blackflow, my account has a password, what does unlocking the account do?
[21:47] <ash_workz> nacc: or rather, if I need to investigate the CVE more closely to resolve whatever impact closing the vulnerability may have
[21:48] <nacc> ash_workz: a module's name is not mod_cgid or cgid_module, but cgid, imo
[21:48] <Bashing-om> CDO20: Vorrect . If ya change the file system type ya get a new partition table .
[21:48] <younder> Aiirborne, That sounds wrong to me. Why do you think the cdrom driver is loaded (well the format) before the kernel is?
[21:48] <ash_workz> nacc: well, I'm annoyed at the naming convention entirely
[21:49] <_Sym_> what is the intel trusted platform module (tpm) used for anyway... I always wondered why i had that error in dmesg
[21:49] <gopnik_> Seveas, oh snap this may be it
[21:49] <gopnik_> one sec
[21:49] <Aiirborne> Seveas younder I have no idea what I'm doing but I did set the loopback loop  when I made the menu entry
[21:49] <_Sym_> I set it to hidden in the bios and now the error is gone
[21:49] <nacc> ash_workz: that's very unforunate for you; not really the point. Also, I feel like you're reading the wrong text(s)
[21:49] <Bashing-om> CDO20: But if ya gonna RE-install Windows, the installer will re-format the partitions anyway .
[21:49] <nacc> ash_workz: e.g.: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_cgid.html
[21:49] <Jordan_U> Aiirborne: Follow this guide: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[21:50] <nacc> ash_workz: clearly says the "module identifier" is cgid_module
[21:50] <nacc> ash_workz: 'mod_cgid' is the .c file's name, nothing else (at least not guaranteed)
[21:50] <hihi> bashing-om - i heard that i need to link something with something
[21:50] <hihi> about that kernel thing
[21:50] <ash_workz> nacc: so, I can rely on what's listed under "module identifier"
[21:51] <nacc> ash_workz: i think so, but i'm not guaranteeing anything
[21:51] <nacc> ash_workz: you'd need to test it to see
[21:51] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/24818.html
[21:52] <_Sym_> thanks Jordan_U
[21:53] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome.
[21:54] <Bashing-om> hihi: Well, rather beloeve something on your system is not right . ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' do you see "ii  linux-generic ; ii  linux-image-generic" in that output ?
[21:54] <Aiirborne> Jordan_U do you mind taking a look at my grub menu entry http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555258
[21:55] <gopnik_> getting this when I try to ssh now
[21:55] <gopnik_> debug2: input_userauth_pk_ok: fp SHA256:RUDlzsiNLVsJhd4y/a8yUL4W5lRdsA0/gGlztMzueUs
[21:55] <gopnik_> sign_and_send_pubkey: signing failed: agent refused operation
[21:56] <blackflow> gopnik_: is the key RSA or DSA?
[21:56] <gopnik_> RSA
[21:57] <gopnik_> just before that I got debug1: Offering RSA public key: /home/gopnik/.ssh/id_rsa
[21:57] <gopnik_> And the server accepted it
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Aiirborne: $isofile should contain the full path to the iso, but I would prefer if you used the guide I linked to to make your entry.
[21:58] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, it sounds like tpm is not very useful for ubuntu and most people recommend disabling it
[21:59] <_Sym_> It sounds like tpm is mostly used for windows 10
[21:59] <Aiirborne> Jordan_U ok I am trying to use the guide now
[22:00] <Jordanshackelfor> Hello
[22:00] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Correct. To use a TPM properly in any major desktop distro unfortunately takes a prohibitively large amount of manual configuration. (CoreOS last I looked is the only major distro that supports TPMs out of the box, and it's a distro for containers so definitely not desktop oriented.
[22:00] <Jordanshackelfor> I have a quick question, didn't know where else to ask
[22:00] <hihi> Bashing-om:           dpkg -l | grep - linux-generic
[22:00] <hihi> grep: linux-generic: No such file or directory
[22:01] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: And Chromium OS actually makes great use of a TPM out of the box.
[22:01] <Jordanshackelfor> Trying to replace power supply on desktop. How do I unplug the wires that go into the power button?
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Jordanshackelfor: That's a question for ##hardware.
[22:01] <bazhang> ##hardware for that Jordanshackelfor
[22:02] <Jordanshackelfor> Kthanksbai
[22:02] <Nicmavr> So I have a PC which has no operating systems currently installed. I'd like to dual-boot with windows 7 and ubuntu, which one is best to install first?
[22:02] <_Sym_> It can be used for disk encryption or hacked to store drm keys
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: Windows.
[22:02] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:02] <_Sym_> thanks again, Jordan_U
[22:02] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: You're welcome.
[22:03] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome.
[22:04] <Bashing-om> hihi: Ya want that as ' dpkg -l | grep linux-generic ' .
[22:04] <bazhang> hihi, is this a MINT issue
[22:04] <hihi> Well I am using mint
[22:04] <nicomachus> !mint | hihi
[22:05] <hihi> But whos issue is that,  I have no idea, and Bashing-om: output is empty
[22:05] <hihi> Tho nobody replying there
[22:05] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, also do you know if there's any programs for ubuntu that regulate battery consumption for a laptop?
[22:05] <bazhang> then wait hihi
[22:05] <hihi> :P
[22:05] <nicomachus> not our problem, hihi
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: What do you mean by regulate?
[22:06] <mich> I've tried to upgrade 3 times and nothing happens....has anyone had this problem when they tried to upgrade?
[22:07] <Nicmavr> Jordan_U, like in windows where the OS sort of regulates what hardware/programs run in the background for optimal battery life. Ubuntu doesn't have that right?
[22:07] <nicomachus> mich: upgrade? as in sudo apt upgrade?
[22:07] <mich> it seems ubuntu fails to upgrade every time... is that why people are leaving this distro?
[22:07] <mich> nicomachus, no, I am following the instructions on ubuntu's very own pages
[22:07] <nicomachus> mich: what instructions are those?
[22:07] <nacc> mich: from what are you trying to upgrade and to what?
[22:07] <Bashing-om> hihi: get the system updated and the required linux-generic installed if ya going to build packages on that system .
[22:08] <mich> can someone who knows what they are talking about talk to me, please?
[22:08] <nicomachus> mich: can you answer questions, please?
[22:08] <mich> 15.10 to 16,10 but the software states the newest OS is 16.04
[22:08] <nacc> mich: you can't update from 15.10 to 16.10
[22:08] <mich> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[22:08] <nacc> mich: 15.10 is eol, you must first update to 16.04
[22:09] <nicomachus> !EOL | mich
[22:09] <mich> nacc, yes, I figured that
[22:09] <nacc> mich: secondly, you probably need to toggle the lts flag in the release upgrader
[22:09] <nicomachus> mich: check that second link.
[22:09] <nacc> mich: once you've updated to 16.04, to update to 16.10
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> mich  what is happening, is perfectly normal
[22:09] <mich> but, how do I initiate the upgrade?   I choose 'upgrade' and it makes me enter my password...then nothing happens
[22:09] <Bashing-om> hihi: As above, if this is mint .. seek help in mint's support channels .
[22:09] <mich> or nothing I can see
[22:10] <nicomachus> mich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:10] <mich> if that's normal, that is pretty awful
[22:10] <hihi> True
[22:10] <nicomachus> just follow the instructions.
[22:10] <nicomachus> mich: you shouldn't have let your distribution go out of service. that's user error, not Ubuntu's fault.
[22:10] <nacc> mich: you chose to put yourself in an unsupported position
[22:10] <mich> I've done this before... I don't ever remember having a problem
[22:10] <nacc> mich: please first follow the help to get to a supported release
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> mich  you should have upgraded, before it was eol
[22:11] <nacc> mich: then you can modify your local configuration to allow for non-lts updates, if you want
[22:13] <mich> so no one is going to tell me how to upgrade to 16.04?  okay
[22:13] <Jordan_U> Nicmavr: Ubuntu doesn't have any way for an app to register itself as a "background task" for the purposes of battery regulation. There are tools to help you get better battery life though, like powertop. Obviously, where it is possible to save battery without negatively impacting user experience those strategies are used by default.
[22:13] <tgm4883> mich: you've already been given the link
[22:13] <nacc> mich: we've told you several times.
[22:13] <nicomachus> mich: I literally linked a step by step instruction page to you twice.
[22:14] <BarBQ> monoum i fixed it now with help from a friend. I had to remove openssh-server and reinstall it again and that fixed it.
[22:14] <nicomachus> so complain all you want, but you can go troll somewhere else.
[22:14] <tgm4883> something something leading a horse to water...
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> tgm4883  you can lead a horse to the water, but it has to drink by herself (or similar)
[22:15] <nacc> MonkeyDust: i think tgm4883 was making a joke :)
[22:15] <tgm4883> :)
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> nacc  i know i know ...
[22:16] <tgm4883> something something knowing is half the battle ;)
[22:16] <xfceone> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. Ubuntu 16.04
[22:16] <aiirborne> Jordan_U well it loads the menu now that lets me pick if I want to try ubuntu, install ubuntu, check disk, check memory but then I get the same error after I select any of the options
[22:16] <xfceone> apt-get install not working
[22:17] <nicomachus> xfceone: can you paste the full output of that?
[22:17] <mich> no wonder people are leaving this distro
[22:17] <nicomachus> mich: please go away.
[22:17] <nacc> !pastebin | xfceone: please pastebin the full output from the command you used (including the command):
[22:18] <Bashing-om> mich: If you can not take notes, and can not keep up - you are welcome to leave .
[22:18] <nacc> mich: i'm not sure what more you would like us to provide. You were given several links to the instructions to upgrade an EOL release to a supported one. Please do that first.
[22:18] <mich> xfceone, you won't get any help here, just arrogant people
[22:18] <nicomachus> !ops | mich
[22:18] <xfceone> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:18] <tgm4883> mich: you've been given the guide to update from your EOL release. If you are having trouble with some part of that guide then state which part. Otherwise kindly stop
[22:18] <xfceone> I try to install gcc
[22:18] <nacc> xfceone: please use a pastebin, as requested
[22:19] <nacc> xfceone: we need to see the whole command, and the whole output
[22:19] <tgm4883> !eol | mich in case you missed this
[22:19] <xfceone> ok
[22:19] <MonkeyDust> mich  help *was* offered, it's you not accepting it and doing nothing with it
[22:19] <nicomachus> no more feeding the trolls, everyone.
[22:19] <_Sym_> If ubuntu is having problems detecting the correct mtrr configuration for my bios, what is the optimal gran_size and chunk_size I should manually set it to?
[22:20] <_Sym_> the one that uses the lowest ram?
[22:21] <nicomachus> thanks Jordan_U
[22:21] <Jordan_U> mich: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your mute.
[22:22] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555384/
[22:22] <xfceone> something like this i
[22:22] <nicomachus> xfceone: sudo apt -f install
[22:22] <xfceone> not working
[22:22] <aiirborne> well if anyone wants to help me install 14.04 from an iso on a 2nd partion with grub I'd love some help. I created the menu entry with the guide that I was given and I can boot to the options where I can select to try / install / check disk/ etc but after I select one I get an error about the iso could not be found and something about /dev/sr0
[22:23] <xfceone> I tried all helps from ubuntu sites
[22:23] <Seveas> xfceone: there's no such thing as 'package1' in Ubuntu. Either pastebin the real output, or remove the unsupported software.
[22:23] <nacc> xfceone: please pastebin the *exact* command and output used
[22:23] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: What filesystem is the iso being stored on?
[22:23] <nacc> !info gcc-5 xenial
[22:23] <aiirborne> Jordan_U ext4
[22:23] <nacc> xfceone: --^ that is the version on 16.04 currently, not what your system is reporting, as well.
[22:24] <xfceone> sudo apt-get install gcc
[22:24] <nicomachus> !info gcc-5 trusty
[22:24] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Please pastebin your /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[22:24] <Seveas> nacc: the output is a dependency, not the available version :)
[22:24] <nicomachus> xfceone: need the full command and output in the pastebin. please. again.
[22:24] <xfceone> ok just a moment
[22:24] <Seveas> xfceone: and no editing.
[22:24] <nacc> Seveas: ah good point :)
[22:26] <aiirborne> Jordan_U this is the loopback.cfg like from the guide http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555402
[22:26] <_Sym_> mtrr sanitizer is unable to automatically choose from several options of memory layout on my system
[22:26] <WPX> Hello
[22:26] <Seveas> ohai WPX
[22:26] <WPX> I've a problem .. there is a shell file did a remove to all files
[22:26] <posi> I have a really big binary, anyway to figure out what makes it up?
[22:26] <_Sym_> I chose the values that use the lowest amount of ram
[22:26] <WPX> rm -R -f /var/lib/mysql/*
[22:27] <_Sym_> but I have no idea which one is the best one to use
[22:27] <WPX> how to restore them please
[22:27] <nacc> WPX: do you ahve backups?
[22:27] <Seveas> WPX: restore them from backup
[22:27] <WPX> SADLY NOOO :(
[22:27] <nacc> WPX: then no, there's no recovery
[22:27] <WPX> SURE ?
[22:27] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555403
[22:27] <Seveas> WPX: or find an expensive data recovery company.
[22:27] <WPX> on windows. I can run program to restore files
[22:28] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: That's not from the guide I linked you to.
[22:28] <nicomachus> xfceone: that's not the full output.
[22:28] <xfceone> it is
[22:28] <Seveas> WPX: linux is less forgiving. If mysql is still running with all tables open, you may be able to recover some data.
[22:28] <nacc> xfceone: let's say it is, please provide the output of `apt install gcc gcc-5`
[22:28] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Ahh, I see. You should be looking at the section "How do I use a loopback.cfg", not "How do I create a loopback.cfg".
[22:28] <aiirborne> Jordan_U maybe I misread/mistyped but thats what the guide said or I'm doing something wrong
[22:29] <xfceone> ok
[22:29] <Seveas> xfceone: and pastebin the unedited content of /etc/apt/sources.list and all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:29] <WPX> sadly, the shell script stoped the services before delete
[22:29] <Seveas> WPX: well, you're screwed.
[22:29] <tgm4883> WPX: out of curiosity, why was that trying to touch the mysql files directly? That seems like bad design
[22:30] <abaldygle> WPX:   Like we said in #mysql    recover from backup  Dont take candy from strangers and if you do, read the script before running it.
[22:30] <WPX> stupid script .... to install ZPANEL
[22:30] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555415
[22:30] <aiirborne> Jordan_U I followed that and the menu entry that looks like that is saved in /etc/grub.d/ but there was no loopback.cfg in /boot/grub/ so I made that too.. I don't think I really understand what I need to do
[22:30] <tgm4883> Seveas: well not screwed, couldn't he try to recover the files with something like testdisk?
[22:31] <nicomachus> xfceone: looks like dependency hell. I second Seveas. Need to see sources.list and sources.list.d
[22:31] <tgm4883> I mean, it's a last ditch effort at this point
[22:31] <xfceone> ok
[22:31] <Seveas> WPX: power the system down. Boot from a live cd. Make a bit-by-bit copy of the drive with dd. Run photorec or other recovery software on that image. Pray.
[22:31] <aiirborne> I'm really just trying to reinstall so I can do my school work... my car broke down on the way back home from thanks giving and so I'm stuck here fro the next few days til it gets fixed
[22:32] <Seveas> and of course you make the copy onto another medium. You must avoid any writes to that drive.
[22:32] <WPX> Seveas: it is a cloud droplet on digital ocean
[22:32] <Seveas> WPX: oh. Then we're back to 'you're screwed'
[22:32] <nacc> xfceone: did you make sure to run `apt update` before running these commands? the version of cpp-5 it's referring to is the release version, not the -security or -updates version(s)
[22:33] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Have you read the section titled "How do you use a loopback.cfg to boot an iso?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> ?
[22:33] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: That is the only section you should be looking at.
[22:34] <xfceone> apt-get update but nothing
[22:34] <aiirborne> Jordan_U yes I have read it is it saying that the menu entry should be in /boot/grub instead of /etc/grub.d
[22:35] <aiirborne> is that what I'm doing wrong?
[22:35] <Seveas> xfceone: more /etc/apt/source.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[22:35] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Which is true. It should be in /boot/grub/custom.cfg .
[22:35] <xfceone> http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555432
[22:36] <Seveas> xfceone: that's far from the entire content, and missing all files in sources.list.d
[22:36] <_Sym_> Should mtrr_spare_reg_nr be equal to the number of disabled registers?
[22:36] <Seveas> use the command I just gave to pastebin it all.
[22:37] <xfceone> nc is removed
[22:37] <Seveas> then install it.
[22:38] <xfceone> nothing in list.d
[22:38] <xfceone> I can`t
[22:40] <Seveas> if you want us to support you, you're going to have to provide the information we need to do so. Otherwise this is a pointless exercise in frustration.
[22:40] <xfceone> Seveas thanks
[22:40] <xfceone> try something
[22:40] <xfceone> I can`t install nothing with apt-get
[22:41] <omer> .
[22:41] <omer> ı'm lin
[22:42] <xfceone> It is working now
[22:42] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[22:42] <aiirborne> Jordan_U can you look at my custom.cfg it is in boot/grub http://paste.ubuntu.com/23555452
[22:42] <xfceone> thanks I checked the updates from Software&Updates
[22:43] <aiirborne> ubuntu.iso is the only thing on sda5
[22:43] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Get rid of everything before the "menuentry" lines. The only thing needed is the menuentry.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: "Replace TITLE with the title you want for the menu entry and PATH with the path to the iso file (not including device name) for example: "/boot-isos/foo.iso"."  The "not including device name" bit is important, so it should be: iso_path="/ubuntu.iso"
[22:45] <aiirborne> Jordan_U ok thanks
[22:45] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: You're welcome.
[22:46] <aiirborne> Jordan_U so it will just find what device it is on?
[22:47] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: Correct.
[22:47] <aiirborne> Jordan_U wow awesome thanks again going to try it now
[22:49] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, ok, ill need to reboot. brb
[22:50] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, you want to see dmesg without any changes to the boot command line right?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Correct.
[22:51] <_Sym_> ok.. brb
[22:52] <xfceone> How to extract router firmware .bin file?
[22:54] <bekks> xfceone: Normally, you just upload it to your router.
[22:54] <aiirborne> Jordan_U it worked! thanks! one last question though what is the best way to back up some pictures from terminal?
[22:56] <xfceone> bekks but with Ubuntu?
[22:57] <bekks> xfceone: Open a browser, upload the firmware.
[22:57] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, well, i feel silly.. the problem has fixed itself when I build 4.8.11.  I never tried the latest kernel w/o removing that boot command line. :-)
[22:57] <bazhang> xfceone, through the router via the browser
[22:57] <xfceone> I need to see the source code for firmware
[22:57] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I probably would not have tried if you did not ask to see the dmesg. lol
[22:57] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: :)
[22:58] <bekks> xfceone: So ask the vendor of your router wether they will provide the sourcecode to you.
[22:58] <bazhang> xfceone, then contact the maker
[22:58] <bekks> xfceone: the binary firmware package does not contain sourcecode.
[22:58] <xfceone> ok thanks
[22:58] <_Sym_> Thats two I owe you now.
[22:59] <xfceone> it is compiled?
[22:59] <_Sym_> I like a dmesg that has no errors. :-)
[22:59] <bekks> xfceone: guess why it is called "binary" :)
[22:59] <xfceone> ok
[22:59] <xfceone> thanks
[22:59] <Jordan_U> aiirborne: "Best" as always depends on you and your exact situation. I would probably use something like "rsync --progress --recursive /path/to/source/directory/ /path/to/destination/directory/" which will copy the directory found at the first path to the directory specified by the second path, showing progress of the copy as it goes.
[23:00] <_Sym_> 0.000000] Found optimal setting for mtrr clean up :-)
[23:00] <_Sym_> super
[23:02] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I just have one last question.  I see this "total RAM covered: 14512M" in the MTRR output, but I only have 8GB RAM.. how is that number derived?
[23:04] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Please pastebin your full dmesg and the output of "free -m".
[23:06] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/HBix2gbj
[23:07] <Epx998> Does the -np flag in wget not work?
[23:08] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: Looks like that's your total virtual memory.
[23:08] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, mem + swap?
[23:09] <_Sym_> because I added that up and its not equal
[23:10] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: mem+swap minus areas that can't be used.
[23:10] <_Sym_> oh
[23:10] <_Sym_> i see
[23:10] <_Sym_> :-D
[23:10] <_Sym_> thanks
[23:11] <_Sym_> You have been a great help to me today
[23:11] <_Sym_> I think I solved everything I wanted fixed
[23:11] <Jordan_U> _Sym_: You're welcome :)
[23:38] <_Sym_> Jordan_U, I think that when I disabled TPM in the bios, it freed up a register that then allowed mtrr sanitizer to find the correct layout.
[23:45] <younder> in 16.04 how do i enable a terminal bell? I tried to find somthing online but nothing works. I have no buildt in speakers.
[23:45] <kk4ewt> so how would you hear the bell
[23:46] <younder> The external speakers work fine
[23:46] <kk4ewt> terminal preferences  profile
[23:47] <younder> kk4ewt, set to bell on
[23:49] <abaldygle> What is the purpose and what does the terminal bell do?
[23:49] <younder> kk4ewt, wait it works now. Anyhow thanks for your time.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> younder: In Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 with Gnome Terminal that alone leads to an alert sound being played for me when the terminal recieves a bell. Do other alerts work?
[23:50] <younder> abaldygle, Actually it deals with a strange bug where a bell character get's displayed when I press tab
[23:55] <FManTropyx> how do I dislodge a stick?
[23:56] <wedgie> FManTropyx: ... we might need some context for that question.
[23:57] <FManTropyx> I wsih to safely remove USB memory, but I cannot find a button for 'safely remove hardware'
[23:58] <wedgie> FManTropyx: what desktop environment? In unity you can right-click it to get that option
[23:58] <FManTropyx> this is Ubuntu Studio, so it has xfce
[23:59] <FManTropyx> ok, I did it in the file manager
[23:59] <FManTropyx> it was well hidden!


[04:44] <cjwatson> realtime-neil: I don't think so - if they've been used before, they should just end up being present but empty (IIRC)
[17:39] <wontfix[m]> If launchpad ever going to remember my sorting options and settings or be able to display git and bzr repos on the same page with git as a first class citizen?


[06:06] <genbattle> hiyas
[06:12] <ojwb> evening
[18:48] <Atamira> mornin
[19:01] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:03] <hads> Morn
[19:08] <ajmitch> morning
[19:14] <Atamira> ahh yes
[19:14] <Atamira> the usual suspects have arrived..done their thing
[19:14]  * ajmitch sleeps now
[19:14] <Atamira> and wandered off
[19:14] <zapzupnz> sleep? now? o.o
[19:14] <ajmitch> you wouldn't expect us to have conversations in here, would you?
[19:14]  * zapzupnz just fot up
[19:14] <Atamira> nope
[19:14] <Atamira> i just got in from work..so i will be sleeping soon
[19:14] <ajmitch> zapzupnz: yeah, I just got to work :)
[19:15] <zapzupnz> ah, lol. right.
[19:15] <zapzupnz> Atamira: shift work?
[19:15] <Atamira> yeah..permanent graveyards
[19:15] <Atamira> love it
[19:15]  * ajmitch hopes it doesn't get up to about 28C again today
[19:16] <zapzupnz> how can you sleep during the day during the summer? unless you live down south
[19:16] <ajmitch> down south, where the days are even longer  & it still gets rather hot?
[19:16] <zapzupnz> can't be as bad as up north, where there's so much humidity it becomes solid matter
[19:17] <zapzupnz> mind you, it's good. it rains a lot.
[19:17] <ajmitch> central otago is usually dry & hot, but it still felt humid enough in dunedin yesterday
[19:18] <zapzupnz> apparently the place to be is the west coast. it's a nice enough place such that you wouldn't mind the temps
[19:18] <ajmitch> heh
[19:18] <ajmitch> and if you don't mind rainfall being measured in metres
[19:18] <zapzupnz> i don't. everywhere i've lived must've been run by a rain god for mayor
[19:24] <hads> I was on holiday in northern Queensland at Easter and we had a meter of rain in 2 days.
[19:49] <ibeardslee> I lived in QLD as a kid .. I remember having to go out in the morning to break the ice on the goats' water buckets and then deal with 35+ degrees in the afternoon
[19:49] <ibeardslee> insane
[19:50] <Atamira> zapzupnz, you get used to it. i keep my room coolish and dark in the summer
[19:50] <Atamira> all else fails, i have a fan as well
[19:50] <zapzupnz> fair enough
[19:51] <zapzupnz> ibeardslee: geez, what a jump.
[19:51] <zapzupnz> sounds like 'every season in a day' weather most be fairly common
[19:51] <zapzupnz> up that way
[19:52] <zapzupnz> my mum lives in qld now, she complains that the weather can't decide what it is, and she's always wearing something much too thick by day's end
[19:52] <Atamira> i lived in nsw for 8 yars
[19:52] <Atamira> the weather there is the same
[19:52] <Atamira> tho it doesnt get as hold..
[19:52] <Atamira> hot that is
[20:13] <snail> ibeardslee: sounds like you needed to make the goats watering troughs out of a material with thermal mass (i.e. stone)
[21:20] <hads> Stone troughs still freeze
[21:23] <mwhudson> morning
[21:26] <zapzupnz> mornin'