[17:25] <coraxx> Pici: OIC ...a running Windows is a problem in it self, which need to be solved first I think ;-) ...but seriously I can if he want install cygwin...and do it from there.
[17:25] <Pici> anderson: These instructions here will help you do exactly what you want: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:25] <coraxx> Pici: * I = He
[17:25] <StevenSS> Is there a website where I can view the popularity of everything in the Ubuntu repositories?
[17:25] <anderson> look i already have vps before and i already install lxde on it + vncserver then connect to it then open browser and nter to my paypal account
[17:25] <Pici> anderson: No need for any extra software on either the server or your computer.
[17:26] <dr_willis> coraxx,  xming may be a better answer then cygwin. :)  but  its getting very thin in the ubuntu support area now.
[17:26] <jrib> StevenSS: popcon.ubuntu.com
[17:26] <abstrakt> anderson, ahh, interesting, you should have said that long ago :)
[17:26] <anderson> yes , now u understand what i want ?
[17:26] <Pici> anderson: This is what you want: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:27] <coraxx> dr_willis: true ... I have used xming myself ...I wasn't sure whether it had enough support for anderson tho
[17:27] <abstrakt> Pici, hold one, lemme see if this helps
[17:27] <Pici> anderson: I'm using the same thing right now myself to tunnel my browser's traffic through my vps.
[17:27] <abstrakt> anderson, yes I do... now I understand, here ya go http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:27] <dr_willis> coraxx,  i thought cygwin was basically a dead project. :) not used it in years
[17:27] <abstrakt> cygwin's definitely not dead
[17:27] <anderson> Pici : u didnt understand what i want
[17:27] <abstrakt> i use it, works quite well
[17:28] <crusade_newbies> how to get all backtrack 5 software in ubuntu. i want to install backtrack 5 but unsupport. im a student more to networking course. so i wanted much the backtrack 5 tool.
[17:28] <dr_willis> but is it b eing actibely developed still abstrakt .
[17:28] <anderson> wait wait please , is that the same as i install gui on my vps then install vncserver and log into my paypal account ?
[17:28] <dr_willis> crusade_newbies,  most every software thats in BT, is avail in ubuntu repos, or PPa
[17:28] <coraxx> dr_willis: actually for those you will need SSH access to their Windows Server, when they for instance have a Version-Control system installed...cygwin is often the choice (CVS, SVN...)
[17:28] <Pici> anderson: No. This is not the same. But this is much faster.
[17:28] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, don't do it that way. if you can't install it on it's own partition, use vmware (not virtualbox) to run it
[17:29] <dr_willis> coraxx,  well i never ssh to the windows box. :)
[17:29] <BrixSat> helloo how do i install huawei E173 on ubundu 10.x
[17:29] <anderson> can u please just give me a minimal gui ?
[17:29] <coraxx> dr_willis: will never have a Windows server anymore ..period ;-)
[17:29] <Pici> I give up .
[17:29] <dr_willis> anderson,  'sudo apt-get install  wmx'   there ya go.. minimal gui.
[17:29] <anderson> wmx ?
[17:29] <dr_willis> You asked for a minimal gui...
[17:29]  * abstrakt facepalms
[17:30] <anderson> and how i nstall vncserver on it or how i get connected to it
[17:30] <jrib> anderson: or just use w3m... but Pici's suggestion is probably what you want to do
[17:30] <abstrakt> anderson, GOOGLE son... do you SPEAK it?!
[17:30] <dr_willis> anderson,  we asked earlier how you were planning on connecting to it.....

[17:30] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, you don't need a gui, you just need the server to think the traffic is coming from that server. browser can be local, and it will work the same
[17:30] <dr_willis> anderson,  ssh, xming, x forwarding.. is one way.
[17:30] <dr_willis> sunce you dont want to learn how to do tunnels.
[17:31] <abstrakt> he just doesn't want to learn
[17:31] <abstrakt> he wants hand holding
[17:31] <abstrakt> which is odd, cuz he says he's got a vps set up already, so i don't know how he managed to do that, or why he's not willing to apply the same skills to that as to this
[17:31] <coraxx> abstrakt: wanna hold my hands ;-) ?
[17:31] <charas> Does anyone know a way to make compiz show viewports like unity shows? Currently when I press Super+E it shows all viewports in one line.  I'd prefer it like Unity shows on presing Super+S
[17:31] <anderson> but i have 3 vps each account with vps and if i use that , that will block my accounts
[17:31] <dr_willis> abstrakt,  or how he paied for the vps...
[17:32] <abstrakt> or why he can't just pay for a 256M server and run openbox
[17:32] <boolean> morning: does anyone know where the confguration is for the Applications menu on the main panel (ubuntu 10.04) ?
[17:32] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, why would they block it?
[17:32] <abstrakt> openbox runs fine in my 256M VM
[17:32] <R3H4N> hello every one I am new here
[17:33] <coraxx> R3H4N: hello there...what is your question for today ?
[17:33] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install xorg openbox && startx
[17:33] <anderson> the going to block because they going to make sure that i open 3 accounts from the same pc but just the ip changed ut the history still
[17:33] <coraxx> abstrakt: Do U know VirtualBox ?
[17:33] <abstrakt> coraxx, i do
[17:34] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, more to the point, who would block what? if you want to access US paypal from US VPS, you need to proxy your traffic through the vps. Pici's solution will do that.
[17:34] <cdeszaq> Hello. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu Server 10.04 with a LAMP stack and Tomcat installed out of the box as a development test server. I need to be able to hit the MySQL service running there from a remote machine, but I can't seem to get through. I've tried commenting out bind-address and skip-networking isn't in the my.cnf file, but it still doesn't work. When I comment out bind-address or
[17:34] <abstrakt> coraxx, the people in #vbox know it better
[17:34] <cdeszaq>  change it to anything other than the localhost IP, I can't seem to restart the mysql process. sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart just hangs. Is there something else I need to do?
[17:34] <venik212> when I change somehting in the Startup Application, it does not "stick"-- when I open it again the old settings remain.  Is this a bug?
[17:34] <charas> Gentleman anyway to see viewports like this http://wiki.compiz.org/CardPlugin?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=plugin-expo.png using Compiz?
[17:34] <R3H4N> coraxx, no question till now just wanted to say hello :D
[17:34] <coraxx> abstrakt: ahh good ...here is a simple question then ;-) ...i can't seem to get VRDP to work when a check it on ...have you got it to work...and if so, how ?
[17:34] <crusade_newbies> i try to install .deb file...and easy to install but when come to tgz.gz file(i think)...i dont know how to install the tgz.file
[17:34] <anderson> but i need forward evry time i want ente to my accounts i have 3 accounts and 3 vpss
[17:34] <abstrakt> coraxx, yeah i have no idea, ask #vbox
[17:34] <coraxx> R3H4N: ah ok :-) then welcome
[17:35] <jrib> !software | crusade_newbies
[17:35] <abstrakt> coraxx, i don't even knokw what VRDP is
[17:35] <jrib> venik212: check permissions on ~/.config/autostart ; try running the startup applications program in a terminal and check for output
[17:35] <coraxx> abstrakt: Virtual RDP (remote desktop protocol) ...for remote administrating the console of a virtual machine
[17:35] <cdeszaq> Also, if it matters, this server is running as a VM with 2 network interfaces. eth0 is a NAT interface, and eth1 is a host-only interface with a static IP (<IP_ADDRESS>), which is the IP I would like to use to connect as I develop on the host machine
[17:35] <abstrakt> coraxx, hmm, what's the guest OS? windows? linux? mac?
[17:36] <venik212> I wanted to do that but I don't know the name of the startup application app..
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, i know about the VRDP actually, but i haven't used it
[17:36] <b0ot> How do you set the clock in ubuntu?
[17:36] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, that's a compressed file, probably the source code. Extract it (preserving folders) and read the contained files (README, INSTALL, etc)
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, i mostly run Linux guests so that I can duplicate production webserver environments
[17:36] <jrib> cdeszaq: you might try #ubuntu-server or even #mysql if no one here knows at the moment
[17:36] <abstrakt> coraxx, and occasionally windows, but I just use windows through the actual VirtualBox console thingie that you get
[17:36] <cdeszaq> jrib: k, thanks...I'll try there too
[17:37] <abstrakt> coraxx, when you install the guest additions, GUI works quite well, you can do fullscreen, the mouse integration is nice, etc
[17:37] <jrib> cdeszaq: by the way, it's best to use the « service » command and not call /etc/init.d/ directly
[17:37] <anderson> so please did u understand me , i have 3 accounts and 3 vpss i need to forward every time to a vps to open each account
[17:37] <coraxx> abstrakt: I have several guest-systems ... mostly *nix-types  (free-bsd, Ubuntu ..etc) ...there might be a Windows variant in the future but doubtful...why ?
[17:37] <abstrakt> coraxx, k, well... i mean what's wrong with SSH access to them?
[17:37] <jrib> anderson: you've been given ssh tunnel instructions, a minimal x option, and a browser that runs in a terminal as options.  What else are you looking for?
[17:37] <cdeszaq> jrib: Yeah, its been a while since I did much, and I noticed that message coming across. What's the difference between the two methods?
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, and or just installing a thin WM like openbox?
[17:38] <venik212> The .config/autostart folder has a DO NOT ENTER sign... won't let me change permission
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, i actually installed openbox just recently, there is a tad bit of noticable lag but it's not too bad with just ob open
[17:38] <anderson> i cant find those instruction for the 3 ways
[17:38] <abstrakt> coraxx, what's your main goal? you want GUI access to your VMs?
[17:38] <anderson> ca u please give all them to me on one reply
[17:39] <jrib> cdeszaq: ubuntu is moving to upstart, using « service » should ensure that the right script is being called (for example I know with ssh the old sys-v-init script and the upstart script both exist)
[17:39] <jrib> !upstart > cdeszaq
[17:39] <coraxx> abstrakt: my main goal is to remove my already existing VMWare Server software and go free and OpenSource.  That means running VirtualBox as a server-system as to the regular client-mode which works great.
[17:39] <jrib> anderson: scroll up
[17:40] <Seven_Six_Two> To all new users: Google is your friend, and can likely find most of your answers. How do you use it? -->  http://www.google.ca/support/websearch/bin/static.py?hl=en-CA&page=guide.cs&guide=1221265&answer=134479&source=product&rd=1
[17:40] <cdeszaq> jrib:  Cool, thanks
[17:40] <anderson> please i referech the page :s
[17:40] <jrib> anderson: Pici gave you a link to setting up an ssh tunnel, dr_willis suggested a minimal x option, and I told you you could use w3m in a terminal (so you don't need X).  My advice, if you care, is to use Pici's suggestion
[17:40] <matheus__> escott, i run the command metacity em the xterm, appear the toolbar of the boxe
[17:40] <matheus__> metacity in*
[17:41] <abstrakt> coraxx, ok, i'm just saying, what need are you trying to fulfill by setting up the VRDP?
[17:41] <anderson> but how to use w3m on terminal
[17:41] <anderson> ?
[17:41] <prodriver> i had once 3d effect and ati drivers installed on Sun Virtual Box
[17:41] <prodriver> and the extras effects were working
[17:41] <coraxx> abstrakt: to do that I will need two thing ...one--> is tio be able to start multiple VMs on the same host-server  two--> for administrative purposes (remote installs or trobleshooting) need to remotely access the console of those VMs
[17:41] <prodriver> i think it was with release 10.10
[17:41] <jrib> anderson: you type "w3m url" voila
[17:41] <prodriver> is that possible right?
[17:41] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: rtfm and "learn to use google" statements aren't welcome here
[17:41] <abstrakt> coraxx, and really at this point you should be talking to #vbox, otherwise i can suggest a couple of linux native options
[17:41] <anderson> then it showing as browser or what ?
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: yes, you get a browser in your terminal...
[17:42] <abstrakt> coraxx, gotcha, well you definitely want to talk to #vbox
[17:42] <anderson> but its a text browser ?
[17:42] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, fair enough. I didn't post that to be mean, quite the opposite in fact.
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: yes
[17:42] <anderson> i need graphical browser :s
[17:42] <jrib> anderson: then do what Pici or dr_willis suggested...
[17:42] <abstrakt> lol, still going
[17:43] <matheus__> escott, and the command apt-get still not run... But the metacity works, i believe, appear a toolbar in the box of the xterm.
[17:43] <anderson> i refrech the page i didnt find the auther instructions
[17:44] <venik212> also, there is no error message telling me that I am not root or somesuch thing-- it simply pretends to work, but does not (startup-application, that is)
[17:44] <RobinJ> i jusr created a new swap partition.... what do i need to put in my fstab to get it mounted at boot time?
[17:44] <RobinJ> its sda8
[17:44] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, may I send you a quick PM?
[17:44] <llutz> RobinJ: /dev/sda8                           none                    swap            sw              0 0
[17:44] <anderson> ????
[17:44] <llutz> Seven_Six_Two: sure
[17:44] <carlos> hola
[17:44] <abstrakt> coraxx, if you just want remote gui access to each linux box, then you can install XDMCP for example
[17:45] <Ramses> hola
[17:45] <Ramses> the spanish channel is not this
[17:45] <venik212> jrib-- can u help with the permissions for startup-applications?
[17:45] <carlos> aguien me podria enseñar a hakear redes
[17:46] <venik212> or rather, ~/.config/autostart ?
[17:46] <Ramses> yes, I can
[17:46] <oCean> !es | carlos
[17:46] <Ramses> keep my email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:47] <venik212> right now all are grayed out... I guess I have to use chmod 755 or somesuch thing on ~/.config/autostart
[17:47] <RobinJ> thanks
[17:47] <anderson> please ?
[17:47] <dr_willis> Please what?
[17:47] <jrib> anderson: here's the link Pici gave you: http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/proxy-through-ssh/
[17:47] <Ramses> yes, please what?
[17:47] <RobinJ> also, i configured sda5 (ntfs) to be mounted at boot time using pysdm. no matter wich file, when i go to the properties it says it's got execution rights..... but somehow i cant run a single binary fil from it
[17:48] <RobinJ> not even an exe via wine
[17:48] <anderson> i need what dr_willis give me
[17:48] <abstrakt> jrib, lets see if it takes this time
[17:48] <abstrakt> hahaha, nope
[17:48] <dr_willis> anderson,   Using a ssh tunnel?
[17:48] <abstrakt> jrib, i tried that too... he didn't accept it from me either :P
[17:48] <abstrakt> dr_willis, ooh ooh, you try now!
[17:48] <anderson> no use minimal gui
[17:48] <abstrakt> omg
[17:48] <anderson> the minimal one on the world
[17:48] <dr_willis> anderson,  you mean wmx?
[17:48] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install xorg && startx
[17:48] <dr_willis> your browser is going to take 10x the ram the gui is useing...
[17:48] <abstrakt> anderson, ^ that's the most minimal GUI in the world afaik
[17:49] <anderson> i can  run that on 126 mb ?
[17:49] <abstrakt> anderson, only one way to find out
[17:49] <dr_willis> wmx can run on very low end systems.. but your browser is going to be taking  a lot more....
[17:49] <abstrakt> man it smells like the zoo in here
[17:49] <dr_willis> make a big swap file.... :)
[17:49] <oCean> abstrakt: stop that
[17:49] <abstrakt> someone must be feeding the trolls again
[17:50] <anderson> what is the minimal browser on linux ? that not eating lot o rams
[17:50] <escott> matheus__, sorry been away from the computer a bit. im not really sure where to go with things. your system is clearly very messed up, but its not clear to me what exactly is wrong. did anything happen during the install
[17:50] <jrib> anderson: links2 -g
[17:50] <minimec> anderson: something like mmidori
[17:50] <minimec> anderson: midori
[17:50] <abstrakt> anderson, dillo maybe, but you're not gonna have flash support on dillo i don't think
[17:50] <escott> RobinJ, is it mounted noexec
[17:50] <dr_willis> midori is actually decent last i tried it.
[17:50] <franek> hi
[17:51] <dr_willis> dillo is a bit too minimal  last i tried it.
[17:51] <anderson> but i can add flashplayer to dillo?
[17:51] <WallyJ2K> Having trouble getting connected to a Windows 7 share. My "Network" screen can see my PC, but says "Unable to mount location. Failed to receive list from server" when I double-click the PC to open it.
[17:51] <dr_willis> anderson,  why do you need flash at all?
[17:51] <dr_willis> flash will take up most all your ram. :)
[17:51] <matheus__> escott, i'm user this system at 1 year ago... never problem...
[17:51] <franek> I have a problem with a card reader with netbook acer one d260. Does not work .... I tried http://tinyurl.com/3kv7lcf and http://tinyurl.com/3ddz9f6 but it did not work. lsusb -d 0cf2:6250 -v  >> http://wklej.org/id/574356/txt/ Debian Sqeeze, any ideas?
[17:51] <anderson> because i need enter somewebsites require flash
[17:52] <RobinJ> escott: /dev/sda5                                  /media/sda5  ntfs  nls=iso8859-1,group=robin,users,gid=robin,user,owner,uid=robin  0  0
[17:52] <dr_willis> good luck then.. How were you going to view this minimal browser you are trying to install anyway?
[17:52] <RobinJ> so no i suppose
[17:52] <FFForever> How can I manually specify a resolution for my external monitor? xrandr says the max supported resolution is 1024x768 but the monitor supports 1600x900
[17:52] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  i think GUD  and UID are #'s not names...
[17:52] <abstrakt> dr_willis, XDCMP, duh... cuz that's so much easier than an ssh tunnel :)
[17:53] <abstrakt> blerp XDMCP
[17:53] <RobinJ> .... really? xD
[17:53] <RobinJ> oops xd
[17:53] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  i think so. :)
[17:53] <RobinJ> ow right.... user ID xD
[17:53] <RobinJ> so what should it be? :p
[17:53] <dr_willis> RobinJ,  run the id command to see your gid/uid
[17:53] <RobinJ> robin@Robin-Latitude-D620:~$ id
[17:53] <RobinJ> uid=1000(robin) gid=1000(robin) groepen=1000(robin),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare),1001(input)
[17:53] <RobinJ> 1000?
[17:53] <RobinJ> :p
[17:53] <FloodBot1> RobinJ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <dr_willis> first user starts at 1000 :) yep.
[17:54] <Juandev> hey guys, how I will find out missing drivers if accessing windows via ubuntu boot?
[17:54] <anderson> than u very much
[17:54] <WallyJ2K> Went through the "Connect to a Server" method and the $C drive shares show up, but not the other folders that are named shares
[17:54] <dr_willis> hmm.. whats that 1001(input) ?
[17:54] <escott> RobinJ, users implies noexec
[17:55] <minimec> FFForever: If xrander is not detecting your hardware, you would probably have to create a /etc/xorg.conf See here as baseic info... http://mac.linux.be/content/set-xorgconf-manually-xrandr#7
[17:55] <thisismygame> Would it be possible to combine several or all of the minimal install images on this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD and put them on a single CD? So I could choose which I would like to install each time I boot from the disc?
[17:55] <escott> dr_willis, he has a users option so it is noexec
[17:55] <dr_willis> thisismygame,  you want a bootable usb that you pick kubuntu/ubuntu/lubuntu/whateverbuntu from?
[17:55] <Seven_Six_Two> can an op please pm me
[17:55] <RobinJ> escott: nls=iso8859-1,owner,uid=1000
[17:56] <dr_willis> thisismygame,  I can do that with a flash drive..  makign a dvd.. may be a little harder. :) but doable ive seen.
[17:56] <RobinJ> Seven_Six_Two: just ask your question here
[17:56] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: there is also #ubuntu-ops if you need op assistance
[17:56] <RobinJ> escott: that one correct?
[17:56] <escott> RobinJ, man mount | grep -C5 users. if you want exec and users you need to add exec as a mount option
[17:56] <Stava> After i've been running my computer for a few days the desktop seems really slow when moving windows. Restarting the computer helps. Do you know why this might happen, or another way to reload whatever components are slowing down? I'm running the classic ubuntu desktop with gnome and compiz
[17:57] <RobinJ> :p
[17:57] <Seven_Six_Two> alright. I'd like to create a page for new users that describes the best ways to get help, and I'd like it to be official. What would be the process?
[17:57] <anandjeyahar> my Xserver hangs once i boot ubuntu (normal mode) .it does the fs check, starts services throws me a console login and then hangs
[17:57] <anandjeyahar> how do i debug?
[17:57] <RobinJ> i hope 11.10 will boot A LOT faster -.-
[17:57] <RobinJ> a whole minute to get to the login screen is a bit too much in my opinion
[17:58] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: it has been done: http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[17:58] <Obfuscation> RobinJ maybe it has to do with StartUp
[17:58] <Obfuscation> Mine  doesn't take to long to get to login, it's faster than most MS Windows Boxes
[17:58] <dr_willis> My PC boots up faster then my ANdroid Phone. :)
[17:59] <Obfuscation> what doesn't?  :))
[17:59] <RobinJ> Obfuscation: i've got 11.04 on 3 laptops in my house.... they all take longer than a minute to get to the desktop....
[17:59] <thisismygame> dr_willis: I have a Dell Poweredge 600SC (OLD) that just had its windows system partition fail during a power loss. I assume an old machine like this is going to fail in the way of usb boot support
[17:59] <RobinJ> if you know how to speed this up by even 10 seconds i'll thank you very much xd
[18:00] <RobinJ> it's getting a real pain
[18:00] <RobinJ> as the boot process keeps lengthening
[18:00] <dr_willis> 2 min boot time ... 2 month uptime....
[18:00] <RobinJ> xd
[18:00] <Ramses> your PC is faster than your Android?
[18:00] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, yes, I see that. It doesn't mention man, info, other forums. only the official channels, which are great, but there is so much more. I was thinking more of a HOWTO than just links to official resources
[18:00] <RobinJ> dr_willis: and your PC runs android i presume? xD
[18:00] <RobinJ> then it would indeed boot up faster
[18:01] <Obfuscation> most phones I see with the Droid OS take FOREVER to start up
[18:01] <dr_willis> Obfuscation,  yep. about 2 min for my phone here.
[18:01] <cdeszaq> how can I turn off apparmor?
[18:01] <RobinJ> sudo apt-get purge apparmor
[18:01] <RobinJ> JUST KIDDINGDONT DO IT
[18:02] <RobinJ> well i removed gnome-panel cause i didnt like it but i dont recommend doing that either xd
[18:02] <RobinJ> (not on my currently running system of course)
[18:02] <dr_willis> !apparmor
[18:03] <cdeszaq> I have nothing against apparmor, i'm just having issues getting MySQL to hear connections from outside and someone suggested I turn it off
[18:03] <Obfuscation> @escott I think my dependency issues were caused by "broken packages" that I'm trying to correct now
[18:03] <coraxx> abstrakt: do you know if ubuntu-server by default blocks port 3389 ?
[18:03] <tehnef> cdeszaq: you don't need to do that to make mysql work
[18:03] <coraxx> abstrakt: for other server software I start...usually the ports a unblocked and ready for use...as soon as the service starts to 'LISTENING'
[18:03] <tehnef> coraxx: ubuntu-server doesn't block any ports by default IIRC
[18:03] <cdeszaq> tehnef: I need it to accept connections from an outside server and by default, it doesn't because it only binds to the localhost IP
[18:04] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, including information like how to get logs, how to use log info in search, mentioning that forum search should be done before posting question, running programs in terminal to get more information
[18:04] <abstrakt> coraxx, um, by default i don't think ubuntu server blocks *anything*
[18:04] <coraxx> tehnef: yep, that's what I thought ...I still don't get why I don't get any open ports from VirtualBox
[18:04] <abstrakt> coraxx, if you want to block stuff you have to install and configure iptables
[18:04] <cdeszaq> tehnef:  but when I try to remove bind-address from the my.cnf, or set it to a static IP of the server, "sudo service mysql start" just hangs
[18:05] <tehnef> cdeszaq: bind-address in my.cnf
[18:05] <tehnef> cdeszaq: oh? hmm
[18:05] <oCean> Seven_Six_Two: there is the #ubuntu-doc channel, that might be a start, since this is not really a technical issue
[18:06] <Seven_Six_Two> oCean, that's why I requested a pm originally. Thanks for the hint, I'll ask in the other channel
[18:06] <coraxx> abstrakt: yes ...that one I know :-)  (I have made several minimalistic firewall configuration on small system with Linux and IPTables)
[18:06] <cdeszaq> tehnef:  yeah...really strange. restart and stop all have similar behavior. the mysql error.log doesn't have much, nor does the syslog to explain anything: http://pastebin.com/vCW9iiFn and http://pastebin.com/11V4n5VV
[18:06] <Ramses_> ubuntu is available in arabic language?
[18:06] <emph> Hi, I could use some help. I've installed several linux distributions prior to this but I cannot seem to get it to work. When I try to boot the livecd the graphics gets garbled when x starts. The same goes if I use the alternate installer, then it installs but I get the same problem when boot it. To try and solve it I thought that I should install fglrx using the netinstall. But I get errors from aptitude and I don't know how to scroll through
[18:06] <emph> to find the source of the error. Help anyone? Would appreciate it.
[18:07] <venik212> ok-- found how to own the .config/autostart folder, and now all is well-- thanks
[18:07] <tehnef> cdeszaq: looks like a different issue, possibly. have you actually populated the db with any data yet? if not, try purging and reinstalling it
[18:07] <JasonO> Hello I have an encrypted drive on my desktop, I would like to remove it to regain disk space b/c I only have ninety something disk space left.
[18:07] <cdeszaq> tehnef: there is nothing at all in the DB...it is a clean install
[18:09] <cdeszaq> tehnef: I also cannot telnet into the port either (but I think MySQL needs to be listening there for that to work)...I get connection refused when I do "telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 3306" (that is the static IP of the eth1 interface of the server, which works fine for SSH and Tomcat and Apache, for example)
[18:09] <Obfuscation> ALRIGHT!! so if anyone comes into the channel and wants to know how to correct dependency issues when trying to install software, Fix broken packages just corrected my issue
[18:10] <tehnef> cdeszaq: well if you can't get mysql running then that would be expected
[18:10] <tehnef> cdeszaq: try to dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[18:12] <WallyJ2K> Can't connect to my Windows7 share, using the Connect to Server method. Ideas?
[18:13] <JasonO> Hi can someone please help me.
[18:13] <cdeszaq> tehnef: No noticeable difference. same behaviors
[18:13] <WallyJ2K> It will show the C$, E$ type shares, but nothing else.
[18:14] <dr_willis> those are special shares i recall.
[18:14] <ChessTeach> I am trying to configure mailutils and I am having trouble sending emails. I am able to write and send without error, but the recipent doesn't recieve it. Not sure where to go from here
[18:14] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  try enterint the smb://server.ip.num.ber/sharename   directly?
[18:14] <rocket16> Hello guys. Is there a way to disable ureadahead without removing it?
[18:15] <WallyJ2K> Strangely the "User" share is the onlyt non $ share that shows up, but I can get into that one.
[18:15] <WallyJ2K> let me give that a try
[18:15] <tux0x29a> my internet connection is up and running but everything (but ping) is blocked to the outside world
[18:15] <tux0x29a> i can connect to other computers in my network
[18:16] <WallyJ2K> @dr_willis - when you say "directly", do you mean in a terminal?
[18:16] <tux0x29a> i think its the firewall that blocks everything...
[18:16] <escott> JasonO, ok so what exactly is the question?
[18:16] <dr_willis> WallyJ2K,  in the file manager.
[18:16] <dr_willis>  WallyJ2K  smb:// wont work in a terminal :)
[18:16] <xmagixx> Hello, i need to apply a fix to alsa-utils - how ever in 11.04 i can't find the file. It's surpose to be at /etc/init.d/alsa-utils
[18:17] <JasonO> escott: Hello I have an encrypted drive on my desktop, I would like to remove it to regain disk space b/c I only have ninety something disk space left.
[18:17] <Arney> I can't get 3D acceleration in Intel 4500MHD after I updated, where do I go?
[18:17] <gadgetdevil> Howdy, I am trying to implement Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. I can not get any of my nodes to connect, and after running euca_conf --deregister-cluster my cluster name still shows up in /etc/eucalptus/eucalptus-cc.conf
[18:17] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, what kind of connection , etherent or wifi
[18:17] <dr_willis> JasonO,  so you want to repartion the disk and erase it?
[18:17] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: ethernet..
[18:17] <WallyJ2K> @dr_willis - I went through Go->Location and it allowed me to type it in. I tried IP as well as the PC name and it didn't find the share. Gave me "Could not Display"
[18:18] <JasonO> dr_willis: Indeed.
[18:18] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, dhcp ?
[18:18] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: when i scan outside addresses they are reported filtered
[18:18] <tux0x29a> yes
[18:18] <escott> JasonO, but what is the question. if it is a ecryptfs you just remove .cryptfs folder
[18:18] <WallyJ2K> The file I want is techically deep within the User share, so I can get there the long way for now
[18:18] <dr_willis> JasonO,  you really syre theres nothing on it you want to keep? if so - just use gparted to delete the partitons and remake them as you want.
[18:18] <Arney> help please. I can't get 3D acceleration in Intel 4500MHD after I updated, where do I go?
[18:19] <JasonO> dr_willis: I want to keep my original /home folder and its contents but want to remove the copy that is on my desktop.
[18:19] <dr_willis> JasonO,  ahh a 'copy' on the desktop..
[18:19] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, ,sudo dhclient eth0 , your ethernet being eth0 of course
[18:19] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i do have a connection...
[18:19] <tux0x29a> that's not the problem
[18:19] <willwh> BluesKaj: o/ :))
[18:19] <tux0x29a> the problem is i can't connect to anywhere
[18:20] <dr_willis> JasonO,  id be carefull and backup your /home/ stuff somewhere extra safe just in case..  Im not clear on where this copy of an encrypted drive came from.
[18:20] <escott> JasonO, the space overhead of ecryptfs shouldn't be that much
[18:20] <JasonO> dr_willis: Okey.
[18:20] <JasonO> escott: Huh?
[18:20] <xmagixx> Hello i need to apply a fix to alsa-utils, where to i find that file in ubuntu 11.04 ? it should be at /etc/init.d/alsa-utils but it's not, i even tried purge and reinstall but still not there... several sites says that the file is there in previors versions of ubuntu
[18:21] <escott> JasonO, is this a normal install with the "encrypt my home directory" option selected?
[18:21] <dr_willis> xmagixx,  that dosent mean its there   in all versions...
[18:21] <dr_willis> !locate alsa-utils
[18:21] <dr_willis> !find alsa-utils
[18:21] <gadgetdevil> xmagixx to find files installed by a package you can run "dpkg-query -L <package name>"
[18:21] <JasonO> escott: No, my /home was encrypted by default during the installation of Ubuntu onto my system.
[18:22] <willwh> tux0x29a: is it a DNS issue? (i.e. if you're connected - can you; ping google.com, if not, try, ping <IP_ADDRESS>) - or, just try this in your browser: <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:22] <xmagixx> dr.willis bash: !locate: event not found
[18:22] <tux0x29a> willwh: no.. i've checked with ip numbers..
[18:22] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, well , you don't have a connection then , from the gateway/router to the internet ,network manager setup should show some connection details
[18:22] <cdeszaq> How can I figure out why a call to "sudo service mysql start" would hang with no output and no processor load?
[18:23] <willwh> tux0x29a: pastebin the output of; sudo ifconfig
[18:23] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i have an ip address and i can see other computers in my network... (router etc...)
[18:23] <escott> JasonO, and what i am saying is I don't know that doing so will take up that much more space than unencrypted
[18:23] <xmagixx> gadgetdevil, hmm still no sign of alsa-utils
[18:23] <jrib> cdeszaq: try to start mysql yourself (see what the script does) and check logs
[18:23] <JasonO> escott: Yes it is.
[18:23] <tux0x29a> willwh: http://pastebin.com/9ZsghvZP
[18:24] <escott> JasonO, why do you think that? it would be easy to confuse the mount overlay with the underlying fs if you just run du
[18:24] <gadgetdevil> use dpkg-query -l alsa* to try searching for anything starting with the name alsa (note the lowercase l which is different from the uppercase from before)
[18:24] <willwh> ok - you have a DHCP address - <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:24] <JasonO> escott: I created a second /home and it is mounted on my desktop. I ejected it but it still appeared when I booted up again and I didn't regain space afterwards.
[18:24] <RobinJ> huh
[18:24] <RobinJ> my bootchart tells me ureadahead is the cause of 60% of my total boot time
[18:24] <tux0x29a> willwh: like i said already :)
[18:25] <tux0x29a> willwh: i'm not a newbit.. this is a new problem that happened a few times now...
[18:25] <willwh> tux0x29a: I don't think it's a problem with your ubuntu install - your'e sure your router is connected to the net? ;]
[18:25] <willwh> oh
[18:25] <willwh> I've never had the issue
[18:25] <tux0x29a> willwh: yes... i'm talking from a different computer connected to the same network
[18:25] <willwh> right
[18:25] <willwh> and you're 100% sure it's not DNS
[18:25] <willwh> that is bizarre
[18:25] <escott> JasonO, please send us the contents of your /etc/fstab /proc/partitions and the output of `mount`
[18:25] <tux0x29a> yes.. i did check it before
[18:26] <tux0x29a> willwh: do you know of a way to redirect apt-get trough a different computer..
[18:26] <tux0x29a> willwh: i want to install wireshark.. maybe examine it more
[18:26] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf
[18:28] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/jPBRW8KR
[18:30] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: when i restart the problem disappears... when i live my computer for long periods of time it returns
[18:30] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: it started a week ago..
[18:30] <tux0x29a> leave*
[18:30] <Juandev> how to fix warnings from smart data utility
[18:31] <Juandev> ?
[18:31] <BluesKaj> tux0x29a, in etc/network/interfaces you have this line  iface eth0 inet manual , why manual , you should have either dhcp or static in there
[18:31] <JasonO> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662115/
[18:31] <escott> Juandev, smartmontools. buy a new disk
[18:31] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i used to manualy connect to the network for security reasons..
[18:31] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: its not really important
[18:31] <Juandev> escott: disk?
[18:32] <BluesKaj> oh? really
[18:32] <genii-around> Juandev: escott is right. Those tools are to warn you of impending hard drive failure before it happens.
[18:32] <tux0x29a> yep.. i've disabled dhcp in the router
[18:32] <Pici> Juandev: SMART warnings usually indicate that your drive is failing.
[18:32] <tux0x29a> and manualy entered the details
[18:32] <Juandev> errr
[18:32] <BluesKaj> then you should usae a syatic IP setting tux0x29a
[18:32] <BluesKaj> err static
[18:32] <Juandev> it happened after deleting some files via antivir
[18:32] <phillyj> hey guys, i'd like to try to partition my drive again
[18:32] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: i've disabled it
[18:32] <phillyj> I'm gonna use the liveCD and run GParted and I think I need to make an extended partition, right?
[18:32] <tux0x29a> BluesKaj: I JUST MANUALLY RUN dhclient
[18:33] <Juandev> so before I budy new disk, how to repare it?
[18:33] <escott> JasonO, so if you are worried about this .Private directory.  The problem with MySQL not starting properly was an accidentally deleted "#" in the header comment of the my.conf file.
[18:34] <genii-around> !fsck | Juandev
[18:34] <Juandev> genii-around: yes sir
[18:34] <JasonO> escott: So how do I permanently unmount home?
[18:35] <tux0x29a> JasonO: remove the fstab entry
[18:35] <escott> JasonO, there is some slight overhead in encrypting a file and saving it in .Private vs having it unencrypted, but it should be minimal. you could move some files (such as mp3s) out of your $HOME and put them in /media/music and then symlink ~/music to /media/music but it shouldn't end up freeing much space
[18:35] <JasonO> escott: Okey
[18:36] <JasonO> tux0x29a: Where?
[18:36] <tux0x29a> JasonO: /etc/fstab
[18:36] <tux0x29a> there's a mount entry there... just comment it out
[18:36] <JasonO> tux0x29a: Aaah.
[18:36] <escott> tux0x29a, that will break JasonO's system. and its not in fstab anyways
[18:36] <Juandev> ubottu: but, If I have already restarted the computer, it had to reboot and run fsck
[18:37] <tux0x29a> escott: why would it break anything?
[18:37] <Juandev> genii-around: but, If I have already restarted the computer, it had to reboot and run fsck
[18:37] <tux0x29a> escott: maybe i'm unaware of his particular setup... but that's a way to do it..
[18:38] <Juandev> genii-around: so you mean to run it once more?
[18:38] <JasonO> escott: There is no  /media/music Should I create directory?
[18:38] <xmagixx> Hello i have a problem with sound, after i installed ubuntu 11.04 i have no sound in windows 7, i found a fix for it BUT the fix doesnt apply to 11.04 since there is no alsa-utils, is there any other way to get my sound back so i can duel boot agian ?
[18:38] <escott> JasonO, if you really want to move away from ecryptfs you can do so but you have to copy all the unencrypted contents out of the $HOME (everything but .Private) to a folder outside $HOME and then logout, login as another user, rm -rf .Private, move the files back, log back in (but you should check online for that process because its not something i have done or would recommend) the space savings probably won't be what you hope, and you w
[18:38] <escott> ill have doubled your disk usage of $HOME during the transition
[18:38] <Ellipsis753> Hey, sometimes the whole of Ubuntu crashes for me. I have to hold down the on off button to turn the computer off. Everything freezes other than the cursor (and sometimes even that). Is there anything I can do when this happends? I thought that wasn't meant to happen with linux or something? I thought one program crashing wasn't suppost to bring the system down? Anything I can do? It's annoying and bad for the comp
[18:38] <Ellipsis753> uter whenever this happends.
[18:39] <escott> JasonO, run the following: du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/; they should be very similar
[18:39] <JasonO> escott: I want to stay with ecryptfs.
[18:39] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  X hanging and the whole systgem crashing can be 2 differnt things.. can you ssh into the box after it crashes?
[18:39] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:40] <ack> hey guys!
[18:40] <genii-around> Juandev: If somehow the antivir program messed up your drive as far as fixable problems, then running the fsck will try to fix those. If it completes and then you still get the SMART warnings after, odds are you need to shop for a new drive
[18:40] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, I'm not sure what you mean. However ctl+alt+f2 dosn't work.
[18:40] <V13Axel> How would I go about putting my battery status on the statusbar of GNU Screen?
[18:40] <Arney> 3D is not working after update, what do I do?
[18:41] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  install the ssh server, then when it hangs. try sshing into the box from another pc.. you can then see if its truely totally hung. If  you can get to a command line you can try to force X to restart, and not reboot the whole pc.
[18:41] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  i belive that Byobu screen variant  has that allready as a feature.
[18:41] <dr_willis> !info boybu
[18:41] <dr_willis> if i can spell it rught. :)
[18:41] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I'm already using Byobu, but it doesn't show that.
[18:42] <JasonO> escott: I ran  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ now it's going through all my files.
[18:42] <tux0x29a> how can i completetly restart my network settings (more than just /etc/init.d/networking restart)?
[18:42] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  i though i saw it in its settings/options somewhere
[18:42] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, I have only one computer. I used to get this thing were the whole computer lagged so much ctl+alt+f2 took about 5 minutes to change. Can I reserve some CPU power for the system or something to stop this?
[18:42] <escott> tux0x29a, because he was talking about removing his ecryptfs encrypted contents folder and unencrypted overlay mount
[18:42] <tux0x29a> completely*
[18:42] <emph> Hi, is garbled graphics when X starts(both via livecd and after install with net-install) a known problem? I got an radeon ATI card(has worked atleast with debian previously) and the screen is connected via the VGA port.
[18:42] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I know how I would set it up in .screenrc, but I guess I need to know a one-line-output command to use with the 'backtick' command for Screen.
[18:42] <Guest57714> Hey guys i have a problem gaining a root account? my startard account is not root i think?
[18:42] <Pici> V13Axel: Did you add it via the F9 menu?
[18:42] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  F9 -> status notifications -> has a battery check box
[18:42] <Guest57714> name ACK
[18:43] <Arney> 3D is not working after update, what do I do? Help please
[18:43] <V13Axel> Pici, dr_willis: F9 does nothing.
[18:43] <phillyj> when i use GParted to add an extended partition, can I also increase the size of the NTFS partition that windows uses so the all of my unallocated space is used up?
[18:43] <Pici> !sudo | Guest57714
[18:43] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  hard to tell whats going on. a 2nd pc would be handy for trouble shooting.
[18:43] <escott> !root | Guest57714
[18:43] <heatherr_> hi there.  i need some help installing on my dell laptop!
[18:43] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  odd. its right there in byobu here to set its options.. but im an on 11.10 right now.  you see f9 mentioned at the bttom panel?
[18:43] <Guest57714> Thanks alot guys!!
[18:44] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I do not.
[18:44] <phillyj> heatherr_: whats the problem?
[18:44] <heatherr_> I successfully booted from the CD, did installation, thigns seemed fine, but then when i went to restart I selected ubuntu, logged in and then got stuck
[18:44] <dr_willis> V13Axel,  may be a improvement they made in 11.10 then. i rarely use the app.
[18:44] <JasonO> escott: ?
[18:44] <V13Axel> dr_willis: I don't use 11.10. I'm using 10.04, actually.
[18:44] <escott> JasonO, yes?
[18:45] <heatherr_> it was flashing back and forth between a log in screen and a background, so i turned it off, and restarted.  and now when i select ubuntu i get a weird pesudo-command line promt thing
[18:45] <JasonO> escott: What is  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ doing?
[18:45] <lrojas> i am running ubuntu 10.04 server, what is the best way to set up a FTP ( sftp ) server ?
[18:45] <heatherr_> the background is black and the characters are white and what i type isn't what the output on the screen is
[18:45] <escott> JasonO, the du command will tell you how much space the encrypted unencrypted contents are taking up
[18:45] <heatherr_> its 11.04, if that matters
[18:45] <Ramses> qwebirc has too many bugs, I need to intervein
[18:45] <escott> JasonO, what is in ~/.Private and actually counts
[18:46] <Ellipsis753> dr_willis, Sure. Mostly I guess it's just flash though. Does flash bring down anyone elses systems?
[18:46] <phillyj> heatherr_: did you try to restart it again?
[18:46] <JasonO> escott: Okey, then you will help me remove the mounted drive?
[18:46] <dr_willis> Ellipsis753,  flash is a pain.. has been for years.
[18:46] <escott> JasonO, what is not in .Private is unencrypted and doesn't really exist (it shadows back to .Private)
[18:46] <heatherr_> i didn't after the second time phillyj , should i try a third?  I have it turned off at the moment
[18:46] <Ramses> here the only thing that I need to encrypt is my GPL 3 software
[18:47] <escott> JasonO, they should come out relatively close to each other.. ie you aren't actually losing disk space this way and you need to look elsewhere to find your true disk usage.
[18:47] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:47] <escott> JasonO, but if you wanted to have your music files accessible to every user
[18:47] <phillyj> heatherr_: try once more
[18:47] <V13Axel> dr_willis: Nevermind, apparently I wasn't using Screen through Byobu on my last session.
[18:47] <Ellipsis753> Ok, a little unrelated but is there a good way to kill crashed fullscreen stuff yet? At the moment I ctl+alt+f2 then log in, then ps -e then kill <id>
[18:47] <llutz> lrojas: do you really need ftp? for setting up sftp, look at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
[18:47] <heatherr_> okay phillyj trying now
[18:48] <heatherr_> would it be easier if we pm'ed phillyj ?
[18:48] <jmesick> I would like to help out with ubuntu graphics
[18:48] <jmesick> is there an ir chat for rhythm
[18:48] <jmesick> that
[18:48] <lrojas> llutz: what other choice is ther? i need a universal solution so people can get or upload files
[18:48] <lrojas> big files i have to add
[18:49] <heatherr_> it looks like it is trying to do things, but the graphics are funny.  i can't read the letters of anything, but now i have the option to login again
[18:49] <escott> JasonO, then what you could do is create a folder with sudo mkdir /media/music; and then move your music files to that folder. they would then be unencrypted, and would take slightly less disk space. you can then rmdir ~/Music;  ln -s /media/music ~/Music
[18:49] <phillyj> heatherr_: did u previously make the password, etc?
[18:49] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks.
[18:49] <heatherr_> yeah, i did that all during installtion phillyj
[18:50] <escott> JasonO, i realize du -h is spitting out all the files and folders du -hs to see only the grand total
[18:50] <JasonO> escott: But will  du -h ~/.Private; du -h --exclude .Private ~/ remove the home drive from my desktop?
[18:50] <heatherr_> should i attempt to put in my password and login phillyj ?
[18:50] <lrojas> llutz: what alternatives are there for ftp or sftp ?
[18:50] <phillyj> heatherr_: go ahead
[18:50] <escott> JasonO, no they just sum up the apparent disk sizes, but the stuff that is not in .Private doesn't actually count because it doesn't actually exist
[18:51] <phillyj> anyone know if 11.04 is easier to partition with during install than 10.04?
[18:51] <escott> JasonO, the encryption overhead is the difference between du -hs ~/.Private and du -hs --exclude .Private ~/
[18:51] <llutz> lrojas: i'm afraid there are no real alternatives, but sftp is alway the better choice than ftp
[18:51] <JasonO> escott: Okey.
[18:51] <raj> how to change login screen in luninux
[18:52] <EVIL_PhilOsOpher> phillyj I found it easier to partition with 11.04 but I think she's got an older PC so I'm not sure how well it will work
[18:52] <Xx-DMW-Xx> hey everyone
[18:52] <Stockholm_Angel> Hi how can i reset my system so i only has the system and no software i installed on it. eg no aditional programmes
[18:52] <heatherr_> it made a noise like it was trying to start up phillyj but i just see the background screen
[18:52] <phillyj> EVIL_PhilOsOpher: stupid HP put 4 partitions so its hard for me to figure out what to do
[18:53] <dr_willis> phillyj,  i think MS is sort of pushing that on the makers..
[18:53] <escott> phillyj, i think the easiest thing for you to do is nuke the recovery partition and put the ubuntu partition there. assuming you dont need that recovery partition
[18:54] <dr_willis> phillyj,  given how cheap hard drives are. last laptop i bought - i bought a spare hd just to use as a 'clone backup' of the original.. then i found out that new laptop had room for  a 2nd hd. :)
[18:54] <JasonO> escott: 23G /home/jasono/
[18:54] <phillyj> anyone else got any suggestions for heatherr_ ?
[18:55] <phillyj> heatherr_: If it were me, i'd just reinstall it
[18:55] <escott> phillyj, the other thing you could do is try and swap the windows partitions into extended partitions by carefully identifying the exact block they start and end at and creating your partitions to match that
[18:55] <ss0> Is it possible to change transparency in gnome-terminal via keyboard shortcut? For the life of me I can't find it if there is.
[18:55] <phillyj> escott: i can do that with GParted?
[18:56] <dr_willis> ss0,  you could use ccsm to setup shortcuts for it.. or use   the super-mouse-wheel (i think)
[18:56] <dr_willis> bbl
[18:56] <Kartagis> why does ubuntu dim display?
[18:56] <escott> JasonO, so thats the size of the unencrypted contents. du -hs ~/.Private should say the encrypted size (sorry i forgot the s earlier)
[18:56] <Kartagis> and how can I prevent that?
[18:56] <ss0> dr_willis: thanks so you can switch profiles with a keyboard shortcut without closing the current terminal?
[18:56] <heatherr_> how do you go about re-installing?
[18:56] <jwiggins> Kartagis, are you using a laptop?
[18:57] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no, it's a desktop
[18:58] <phillyj> heatherr_: have you googled your problem? maybe someone else had what you have
[18:58] <JasonO> escott: System Monitor shows /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda 1 /media/home I want to remove the copy which I believe is /media/home
[18:58] <escott> phillyj, id recommend using fdisk for something like that. gparted usually like to reformat, but im saying you could remove the partitions and then carefully rebuild a new partition table that is compatible with the on disk contents (but not reformatting). in any case you have to be prepared to restore if things go south. nuking the Recovery partition is the least intrusive approach (assuming you don't mind losing your recovery partition)
[18:58] <heatherr_> lol, yes phillyj and i got things relating to 10.4, and then this irc channel was suggested to me
[18:59] <jwiggins> Kartagis, are you using a laptop?
[18:59] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no, it's a desktop
[18:59] <jwiggins> Kartagis, go to System/Pref/Power Management
[19:00] <escott> JasonO, oooh i see what you are saying. i didnt notice that before. sudo umount /media/home; and then verify it isn't in /etc/fstab
[19:00] <jwiggins> Kartagis, it may be reading your desktop as a laptop which would be why your display dims if inactive for a few seconds
[19:00] <jwiggins> Kartagis, make sure the "Dim display when idle" is not checked
[19:00] <escott> JasonO, and that will confuse the results of your du -hs. but none of this counts towards actual disk usage
[19:01] <phillyj> escott: well,that sounds complicated. i guess there's no hope for me. might as well go back to using WUBI
[19:01] <Kartagis> jwiggins: no such option
[19:02] <escott> phillyj, i would suggest virtualbox over WUBI
[19:02] <Rehan> does Ubuntu have a true S3 sleep mode like Windows or does it only hibernate (save all RAM to disk)?
[19:02] <escott> Rehan, suspend
[19:02] <Stockholm_Angel> Hi how can i reset my system so i only has the system and no software i installed on it. eg no aditional programmes? eg remove tor, popili, calibrare, google earth
[19:03] <Stockholm_Angel> etc
[19:03] <Rehan> escott: does suspend mean it keeps everything in RAM? what happens with the swap?
[19:03] <JasonO> escott: Will the unmount cmd also remove from the other user?
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> i am having problems mounting my ipod
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> i am using natty narwhal
[19:03] <ubuntunewb> installed fresh with natty disk
[19:04] <escott> Rehan, suspend to ram/S3 swap is left as is. hibernate ram is written to swap cpu halted
[19:04] <ubuntunewb> have afc2add on my ipod
[19:04] <JasonO> escott: Can't find /home/media in /etc/fstab
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, presumably what you did was mount -o bind / /media/home; umount /media/home will unmount that one copy
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, and its /media/home (i keep getting it backwards as well)
[19:05] <ubuntunewb> i have natty narwhal 11.04 and i can't mount my ipod, i have installed afc2add from cydia
[19:05] <JasonO> escott: How will i make sure it removes all copies?
[19:05] <escott> JasonO, after the umount you can sudo rmdir /media/home. and they aren't copies
[19:06] <escott> JasonO, its like portals to the same place. you see the same contents in two places and its the same content, but it only takes 1 unit of space not 2
[19:06] <phillyj> escott: i came across a post that said that you can move the contents from HP_TOOLS partition to HP_RECOVERY partition and then delete the HP_TOOLS partition. Is that a good idea?
[19:07] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks. I will re-boot to make sure they no longer appear,
[19:07] <Kartagis> jwiggins: I noticed that it was dimmed when focus is in a dark bg program, like terminal
[19:08] <escott> phillyj, HP_TOOLS is a bit small for your purposes isn't it? in the end though it is up to you, and how necessary you think the recovery partition is. I just nuked the recovery partition. if you want to keep the recovery partition you could free a partition by removing HP_TOOLS as it is probably the least necessary partition
[19:08] <morfix> hey ppl. I was wondering why the terminal doesnt recognize spaces? if a file is two words it thinks its 2 files
[19:08] <ubuntunewb> i need help
[19:09] <escott> phillyj, once you remove HP_TOOLS you could shrink/move/shrink/move partitions over to the left to make space for you ubuntu partition at the end of the disk
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> is anyone here
[19:09] <edbian> ubuntunewb: A lot of people.     Do I have one file named 'file a' or two files names 'file' and 'a'
[19:09] <ubuntunewb> at all
[19:09] <escott> morfix, escape character is "\" this\ will\ be\ interpreted\ as\ one\ file\ name OR you can quote
[19:09] <edbian> morfix: Spaces are ambiguous.  Use "s to fix it
[19:10] <edbian> ubuntunewb: plug it in, and pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:10] <V13Axel> morfix: To put spaces in terminal, you have to put \ where the space goes. "file 1" is done like "file\ 1"
[19:10] <ubuntunewb> @edbian ok
[19:11] <morfix> v13axel what if your directing the terminal to a location
[19:11] <edbian> ubuntunewb: :)
[19:11] <niku> Hi all; I've recently upgraded to 11.04 and am having problems mounting a FuSE filesystem. I've verified the underlying device is there, but can't seem to find the zfs pool
[19:11] <morfix> v13axel ~/Desktop/file/a  ?
[19:11] <V13Axel> morfix: cd "location number 1" or cd location\ number\ 1
[19:11] <niku> if anyone could point me in a direction to put fuse into debug/verbose mode, that would be very appreciated
[19:11] <Hot2Trot> is there a good channel for virtualization questions (ie using ubuntu on a virtual machine)?
[19:12] <Layke> Ive got a question, first time really ever using Ubuntu as a desktop, how do you easily track what you have already opened? When something is below another window I find it hard to find
[19:12] <Layke> Especially when it is below another window on another workspace
[19:12] <troydm> Layke: are you using Unity?
[19:12] <niku> Layke, alt-tab
[19:13] <morfix> v13axel why cant I cd desktop?
[19:13] <Layke> troydm, Yes I am
[19:13] <funkyHat> morfix: if you want to learn about the command line in general I would suggest this http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sh.html -- it covers writing scripts as well, and is actually based on sh, not bash, but bash does everything sh does and more
[19:13] <V13Axel> morfix: it's cd ~/Desktop
[19:13] <Layke> niku, that will only ever work on the same workspace, and I find the preview images really small to recognise.
[19:13] <V13Axel> morfix: *nix terminals are all case-sensitive.
[19:14] <morfix> v13axel It doesnt work when I sudo su
[19:14] <niku> ah, in that case, run the command "gnome-panel" from a terminal
[19:15] <edbian> ubuntunewb: you have a powerPC ?
[19:15] <ubuntunewb> edbian: yes
[19:15] <niku> once that starts, if it doesn't have it already, right-click and add the window list thingy
[19:15] <niku> if that works for you, just add "gnome-panel" to your startup items
[19:15] <Kartagis> can anybody tell me why ubuntu dim display? it's a desktop, everything in power management is set to never
[19:15] <ubuntunewb> edbian: it's a 1.25 GHz eMac powerpc processor
[19:15] <edbian> ubuntunewb: could you pastebin the ENTIRE output of sudo fdisk -l    in the pastebin please?
[19:15] <Kartagis> dims*
[19:16] <ubuntunewb> that is the entire output
[19:17] <V13Axel> morfix: That's because you're running as root. If you want to access your own Desktop, you have to cd /home/USERNAME/Desktop
[19:17] <ubuntunewb> edbian: http://pastebin.com/ij5dUNEa
[19:17] <edbian> ubuntunewb: mmm, not a good sign.  What gen ipod is this?
[19:17] <morfix> v13axel how do I exit sudo su
[19:18] <Layke> troydm, any recomendations?
[19:18] <ttyjunkie> hi
[19:18] <ubuntunewb> edbian: ipod touch 2g ios 4.1 jailbroken
[19:18] <ubuntunewb> 8 gb
[19:18] <JasonO> escott: The drive is still mounted onto my desktop.
[19:18] <eden6000> morfix: exit
[19:18] <edbian> ubuntunewb: switch it from MTP to MSC mode.  Then it will work like a jump drive.
[19:18] <Kartagis> morfix: logout too
[19:18] <Kartagis> morfix: Ctrl+D
[19:18] <morfix> nice
[19:18] <ubuntunewb>  ebian: how do i do that?
[19:19] <edbian> ubuntunewb: IDK, somewhere in the settings on the ipod
[19:19] <edbian> ubuntunewb: http://www.cnet.com.au/what-is-the-difference-between-mtp-ums-and-msc-mp3-players-339275003.htm
[19:20] <escott> JasonO, the /media/home keeps getting mounted? (and its not actually on your desktop, I think nautilus is drawing an icon for a disk because it thinks it is an external drive)
[19:20] <PauloRFP> algum brasileiro ?
[19:20] <Pici> !br | PauloRFP
[19:20] <JasonO> escott: Yes, that's right.
[19:20] <escott> JasonO, please grep sda1 /etc/fstab
[19:21] <escott> JasonO, scratch that. those would be by uuid
[19:21] <escott> JasonO, lets try sudo blkid
[19:21] <heatherr_> Can I ask a silly question?  I think this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1741887&page=2 is very similar to my issue, but where do i type in "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"?
[19:21] <morfix> kartagis, eden6000, v13axel. everytime I install a package from terminal my friends get impressed and I lol. anyone know a command that does nothing but displays words in the terminal like a package install?
[19:22] <escott> heatherr_, into a terminal
[19:22] <dr_willis> !terminal | heatherr_
[19:22] <JasonO> escott: /dev/sda1: UUID="39ec5cf9-e94d-411f-ba1f-e1d9063e0231" TYPE="ext4"
[19:22] <JasonO> /dev/sda5: UUID="6625212b-ec49-4542-b075-029027bcbebb" TYPE="swap"
[19:22] <escott> heatherr_, so you are not getting the plymouth screen with the ubuntu logo and the 5 dots below it?
[19:22] <heatherr_> so, if i can't SEE the terminal, that won't help me, right?
[19:23] <escott> JasonO, can you please !paste your /etc/fstab
[19:23] <heatherr_> i get what looks like a command line, but the colors and lines are all weird
[19:23] <dr_willis> heatherr_,  you could always use the console and a  console based text editor.
[19:23] <JasonO> escott okey
[19:23] <ubuntunewb> so do i have to get a new player??
[19:23] <dr_willis> I tend to just disable plymouth. :)
[19:23] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[19:23] <edbian> ubuntunewb: probably not
[19:24] <noneabove> hey guys need help with booting off usb.. i went and downloaded the iso, got the program to install on usb, set up boot priority, but now when i boot off of it, it makes a loud beep and if i do nothing it goes to a black screen with a bit of text and then freezes, and also on the screen where it asks if youd like to boot or install if i press anything it freezes
[19:24] <escott> heatherr_, i think what you are reading there is different. X being messed up should be unrelated to the kernel framebuffer mode
[19:24] <lion42> Today on ubuntu, discovering if I can make a braille embosser older than christ himself work with linux.
[19:24] <edbian> ubuntunewb: that link I gave is misleading I think.
[19:24] <heatherr_> okay, thanks escott
[19:24] <heatherr_> i guess i will try to reinstall?  is there a better way than from loading the cd?
[19:24] <sobersabre> what are my options to force window geometry (size+position) to an application (that does not adhere classic XWindows "--geometry=" approach)
[19:25] <escott> heatherr_, i wasn't reading things earlier so what does happen during your boot. what do you see?
[19:25] <edbian> ubuntunewb: hang on
[19:25] <noneabove> anyone know whats happening with my computer ?
[19:25] <escott> noneabove, what is the text
[19:26] <noneabove> i can reboot to look but it shows two lines then on the second line at the end of it its like ............................ready
[19:26] <JasonO> escott: Here it is. http://paste.ubuntu.com/662140/
[19:26] <noneabove> then theres the flashing cursor and nothing happens
[19:26] <edbian> ubuntunewb: http://www.ehow.com/how_8702444_switch-ipod-msc-mode.html
[19:26] <noneabove> escott, meant to tag you
[19:26] <heatherr_> escott: when it loads, i see some weird white and black stripey things, but then it lets me login, and then it flashes from the background screen, to a black screen with a box with login info and a place to put my password
[19:27] <escott> JasonO, sorry should have warned you about uuid. partition numbers sda1 sda2 can change if you repartition. the 39ec is a unique identifier for you / partition. so sda1 is listed twice in /etc/fstab. remove the bottom listing of 39ec...
[19:27] <ubuntunewb> edbian: is that permanent ?
[19:27] <ubuntunewb> or just for itunes??
[19:27] <edbian> ubuntunewb: There might be a way to do it on the ipod without using a computer with itunes.  You'll have to look at the settings of the ipod
[19:28] <escott> noneabove, we need to know what those words are
[19:28] <edbian> ubuntunewb: It's not permanent, you can change it back.
[19:28] <heatherr_> escott: okay, so right now, i have a thing that says "GNU GRUB version ..." and then 5 options, Ubuntu, Ubuntu (recovery mode) memory test, memory test, and windows"
[19:28] <noneabove> escott, alright ill reboot and rejoin, brb in like 5 min
[19:28] <JasonO> escott: You mean everything under UUID=39ec5cf9-e94d-411f-ba1f-e1d9063e0231 /               ext4    ?
[19:28] <ubuntunewb> i mean like when you tell it to go msc
[19:28] <ubuntunewb> does it stay in msc
[19:28] <escott> JasonO, no the one at the bottom the one that mentions /media/home
[19:28] <edbian> ubuntunewb: You can change it if you want.
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: It stays until you change it again
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> oh
[19:29] <escott> JasonO, the one after /dev/fd0
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> so i could change it and it would mount on ubuntu?
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: yes
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> SWEET
[19:29] <ubuntunewb> TYVM!
[19:29] <edbian> ubuntunewb: sure
[19:30] <ubuntunewb> -brb
[19:30] <ubuntunewb> goin to change it
[19:30] <JasonO> escott: You mean the # (identifier) an below?
[19:31] <noneabove_> escott, ive got the text
[19:31] <escott> JasonO, yes
[19:31] <noneabove_> escott, want me to just type it in now?
[19:32] <coraxx> dr_willis: I NOW HAVE THE SOLUTION FOR MY VIRTUALBOX ISSUE !! ...WANNA HEAR ?
[19:32] <Ramses> of course
[19:32] <dr_willis> coraxx,  you read the manual? :)
[19:32] <Rajon9Rondo> Hello. Can someone help me?
[19:32] <coraxx> dr_willis: ha ha...very funny ;-)
[19:32] <Pici> !ask | Rajon9Rondo
[19:32] <edbian> Rajon9Rondo: yes probably
[19:32] <Ramses> Rajon9Rondo what you need?
[19:32] <JasonO> escott: I can't remove. Should I change the file properties?
[19:32] <dr_willis> coraxx,  some check box you had to find? or was it somthing so complex i wont rember?
[19:33] <escott> heatherr_, "i see some weird white and black stripey things" -- the X test pattern most likely. which shows that X is starting.  not sure why you are getting two login screens. but you may want to update your X driver
[19:33] <escott> noneabove_, unless it is really long in which case !paste otherwise please type it in
[19:33] <noneabove_> escott here it is when youre ready : Loading /casper/vmlinuz(and a letter i cant read sadly cause of flash) nextline > Loading /casper/initrd.lz.........................ready
[19:33] <escott> JasonO, sorry sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:33] <Rajon9Rondo> I need to change the public IP
[19:33] <coraxx> dr_willis: as of version 4.0 (when Oracle took over Sun Microsystems), VirtualBox requires an 'extra' installation of an extions-pack ...within that the VRDP is implemented.
[19:33] <noneabove_> escott. well as you can tell there it is :P
[19:33] <ole_oz6oh> test
[19:34] <coraxx> dr_willis: *extension-pack
[19:34] <dr_willis> coraxx,  golly!
[19:34] <Ramses> Rajon9Rondo this is easy
[19:34] <escott> noneabove_, ok you are trying to install then. what iso did you download
[19:34] <JasonO> escott:  Done.
[19:34] <coraxx> dr_willis: I knew the answer was simple.  Its just annoying that the feauture is shows as 'available' even tho the extension-pack is NOT installed
[19:34] <noneabove_> escott, the one off the site, ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:34] <ubuntunewb> edbian you still there
[19:34] <escott> JasonO, you can sudo umount /media/home or just reboot. it shouldn't be there anymore
[19:35] <escott> noneabove_, did you check the md5sums?
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> i got a slight problem
[19:35] <escott> !md5sum | noneabove_
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> theres no summary tab
[19:35] <noneabove_> escott, thanks was about to ask haha
[19:35] <JasonO> escott: Awesome, I will reboot. Brb.
[19:35] <escott> noneabove_, and is your system in fact 64bit
[19:35] <ubuntunewb> never mind
[19:36] <edbian> ubuntunewb: :)
[19:36] <Rajon9Rondo> How I can do it?
[19:36] <noneabove_> escott yes i have a 64 bit processor, and i was running the same iso using WUBI before but decided to do it the official way
[19:36] <ubuntunewb> edbian: im going to try and find that setting
[19:36] <ubuntunewb> i'll be back if i cant find it
[19:37] <escott> noneabove_, can you test that disk on another computer just in case it got burned wrong
[19:37] <noneabove_> sure give me a couple mins
[19:38] <ubuntunewb> by the way
[19:39] <ubuntunewb> is zune supported on  ubuntu?
[19:39] <robbmunson> ubuntunewb, doubt it.
[19:39] <ubuntunewb> T_T
[19:39] <edbian> ubuntunewb: If you can put it in msc mode
[19:40] <ubuntunewb> io
[19:40] <ubuntunewb> o
[19:40] <mattalexx> I'm getting a hang on startup. What could be the problem? http://i.imgur.com/KVtUB.jpg
[19:40] <Rajon9Rondo> How I can Change the public IP?
[19:40] <Rajon9Rondo> please..
[19:40] <edbian> Rajon9Rondo: You cannot.  The ISP determines that.
[19:41] <mattalexx> Rajon9Rondo, I pay for a static IP that never changes.
[19:41] <morfix> edbian: Is there a way I can recreate the look of a terminal when it installs a package?
[19:41] <Fuchs> mattalexx: it goes for a reboot, so it doesn't look like a hang
[19:41] <edbian> mattalexx: The broadcast message from root@mingus indicates the system decided it was going to shut down at that point.  Haha, so it's shutting itself down
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewb: you could use virtualbox closed version for usb access and access it that way
[19:41] <edbian> morfix: what?
[19:41] <Fuchs> mattalexx: possible reasons are a filesystem check, something in the autostart which does a reboot or an init script which does that
[19:42] <ubuntunewb> yeah
[19:42] <mattalexx> Oh, I see. I thought this was during startup but it happened during shutdown. I was restarting
[19:42] <noneabove_> escott : yea im trying to use it on another computer but its an old ibm and i cant figure out its bios XD is there someother way i can tell ?
[19:42] <edbian> mattalexx: Did you call the reboot?
[19:43] <Fuchs> mattalexx: in that case it might be a filesystem which takes long to unmount   (e.g. NFS or CIFS which lost it's connection), or simply an ACPI issue. Is this reproducible?
[19:43] <escott> noneabove_, the older system probably isn't 64bit anyways
[19:43] <ricky108> anyone from Ireland???
[19:43] <noneabove_> escott; oh frig right haha
[19:43] <ubuntunewb> is there a player that does videos and plays music and works with ubuntu?
[19:43] <noneabove_> escott; so then nvm i dont
[19:43] <edbian> ubuntunewb: tons of them
[19:43] <Rajon9Rondo> In windows you can do it with a .bat and I thought that would be something like in ubuntu
[19:43] <edbian> ubuntunewb: anything that has msc mode
[19:43] <RA_drc> if i forget a username/password for a user, what can i do to reset it?
[19:44] <ole_oz6oh> test
[19:44] <ubuntunewb> list a few please
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: cowon s9
[19:44] <Fuchs> RA_drc: if you have the username, you can use the "passwd" command as root (either with sudo or boot into single user mode
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: that's what I use :)
[19:44] <thealphanerd> anyone know how to remove grub form my bootloader using a macbook pro?
[19:44] <escott> noneabove_, usually in this situation one would suspect the install media is corrupted. you can boot your wubi and take an md5sum of /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom to see if it burned correctly. if it did burn correctly you could try the alternate installer
[19:44] <ubuntunewb> i want something that's not too expensive but can play videos
[19:44] <JasonO> escott: It worked! :) Thank you.
[19:44] <Fuchs> PauloRFP: if you do not have the username, you can have a look at a list of users in /etc/passwd
[19:44] <noneabove_> alternate installer?
[19:44] <Toph2> ubottu,,, they are all free
[19:44] <RA_drc> Fuchs: what if you don't know the root password, and you are in single user mode
[19:44] <edbian> ubuntunewb: This is ubuntu support not music player support.  Ask in #anythingbutipod
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott; alternate installer?
[19:45] <ubuntunewb> ok
[19:45] <escott> JasonO, np sorry
[19:45] <ubuntunewb> alright
[19:45] <Fuchs> RA_drc: you don't need a password in single user mode
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott: and do you think it would help to redo the setup of the usb? or reinstalling the iso ?
[19:45] <ricky108> anyone form Ireland
[19:45] <Fuchs> RA_drc: you can simply use the passwd command
[19:45] <JasonO> escott: Can you help me regain more space?
[19:45] <sytyi> hello to everybody, Can anybody advice a tool to count all unique messages in file. The file lines are in format file: line: message.
[19:45] <escott> noneabove_, text mode installer. it might not have the same problems
[19:45] <noneabove_> escott where do i learn about that ?
[19:45] <Fuchs> sytyi: a combination of awk, sort -u and wc -l
[19:46] <sytyi> Fuchs: thanks
[19:46] <Fuchs> sytyi: so basically something along the lines   cat file | awk '{print $3}' | sort -u | wc -l    or so
[19:46] <escott> JasonO, with all these extra mounts all over the place the disk usage analyzer can be easily confused. i would recommend using gparted to identify the true disk usage
[19:46] <Fuchs> (not pretty, working)
[19:46] <escott> noneabove_, ok so this is a usb. you might try a cd in case your bios doesnt like usb boots. what kind of computer is this?
[19:47] <sytyi> Fuchs: thanks a lot.
[19:47] <noneabove_> hp pavilion dv6
[19:47] <escott> noneabove_, the alternate installer you can download from ubuntu.com
[19:47] <noneabove_> escott; hp pavilion dv6, sorry keep forgetting tag
[19:47] <Fuchs> sytyi: no problem
[19:47] <escott> noneabove_, is that an efi system?
[19:47] <noneabove_> escott; and so then i need to find a cd haha
[19:47] <JasonO> escott: Okey, thanks for the help.
[19:47] <noneabove_> escottl efi ?
[19:47] <katkee> sytyi: try this http://crunchtools.com/software/petit/
[19:48] <escott> noneabove_, does the bios support your mouse
[19:48] <noneabove_> excott; no
[19:48] <sixstring> Question for command-line people: Why does CTRL+C not kill wget? See http://www.pastie.org/2346568 for log.
[19:48] <sixstring> It looks like wget is spawning a sub-process, but I've never seen wget do this.  What exactly are you trying to achieve?
[19:49] <noneabove_> escott; no it doesnt
[19:49] <RA_drc> Fuchs: yes, it would.  i'm trying to achieve "boss happiness"
[19:50] <Fuchs> RA_drc: well, yes, it should work like that
[19:50] <escott> noneabove_, i would start by making a cd if you have a blank cdr around. i dont know of any issues getting dv6's to boot with the installer, but perhaps there are some
[19:50] <noneabove_> escott; yea sadly i dont have one handy ><
[19:51] <noneabove_> escott; and by handy i mean like at all
[19:51] <lokodomain_> is loving ubuntu and can't believe I've been using windows for so long
[19:51] <sixstring> I've never seen wget spawn sub-processes like this. Not on Centos at least. Nor on ubuntu, that I can recall. Can a server force this?
[19:52] <escott> noneabove_, i guess try the alternate iso. you can make a usb stick with the same usb-creator-gtk
[19:52] <sixstring> lokodomain_, welcome to linux. You're ruined for windows now.
[19:52] <sixstring> I've heard Mac users say the same about OS X. But I don't know...
[19:52] <sytyi> Fuchs: and maybe you can advice how to  change awk '{print $3}' to work with both $4 and until $# ?
[19:52] <lokodomain_> sixstring I hear you I'm fully converted
[19:52] <ole_oz6oh> hugo davs
[19:52] <sixstring> Once you taste freedom, it's hard to go back.
[19:53] <sixstring> Too bad I can't find any wget gurus today.
[19:53] <lokodomain_> having problems setting up phpmyadmin on the test enviroment
[19:53] <Guest27079> ole_><
[19:53] <noneabove> escott: do you think the same one with the same usb would make a difference ?
[19:54] <noneabove> escott: like redoing it
[19:54] <lokodomain_> phpmyadmin user has no priviledges
[19:54] <Guest27079> davs ole
[19:54] <sixstring> oh well. kill -9 does kill wget sub-processes pretty well. so does "killall wget". guess I'll live with that.
[19:54] <escott> noneabove, no idea. its unclear if its a bad stick, or a bad image, or a bios that doesn't like the image, or an image that just isnt going to boot for you
[19:55] <escott> noneabove, you can ask others. tell them you have a dv6 and the amd64 installer is loading the initrd and spontaneously rebooting
[19:55] <Fuchs> sytyi: either by specifing all columns or with a loop,
[19:55] <ole_oz6oh> noget fornuftigt gyll
[19:55] <Fuchs> sytyi: you want to print to the line end? Then cut might be a better idea, to remove the first two parts
[19:55] <noneabove> escott: well its not so much rebooting as just freezing and not accepting any keyboard input. :S
[19:55] <sytyi> Fuchs: thank you. I just was not sure there are not some magic there
[19:56] <Fuchs> sytyi: probably you are better off with cut, if the message contains white spaces, yes
[19:56] <ole_oz6oh> Guest27079  her er jeg
[19:56] <Fuchs> (or you change the field separator to something else)
[19:56] <noneabove> escott: but anyways where would you suggest i ask this ?
[19:56] <sytyi> Fuchs: cut first $1 and $2
[19:56] <lokodomain_> phpmyadmin user has no privildeges and I dont know why.  Just set up and installed from command line with LAMP and I can't create a database..? any clues
[19:56] <escott> noneabove, here is as good a place as any. i know there were some other dv6s that were working in the channel an hour or so ago
[19:56] <Fuchs> sytyi: cut -f 3- as a command
[19:57] <Fuchs> sytyi: cut -f 3- file | sort -u | wc -l
[19:57] <Fuchs> however, this will take whitespace as a separator as well, so if the first two colums have withespaces, this is a bad idea
[19:57] <noneabove> escott: alright sure thanks
[19:58] <jjjjj> hej hugo
[19:58] <ole_oz6oh> hej hugo
[19:58] <noneabove> Hey guys I've got a problem with my HP Pavilion dv6 not booting off of my usb properly, has anyone else encountered/gotten past this problem?
[19:58] <noneabove> escott: and thanks for all your help
[19:58] <sytyi> Fuchs: simple filename, line#, so thank you very much
[19:59] <Fuchs> sytyi: well, are you sure that the filename does not contain whitespaces?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> noneabove: what is the issue?
[19:59] <Fuchs> else one might want to take a regular expression or so
[19:59] <sytyi> Fuchs: I'm sure. It's one file with many lines
[19:59] <Fuchs> okay
[19:59] <Fuchs> then you can use cut
[20:00] <noneabove> ActionParsnip: when i get to the screen where you choose like run or install and such, it freezes if i press any keys on my keyboard, and if i just wait for it to use the selected item i get to it loading initrd and then it just sits there doing nothing
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> noneabove: what video chip do you use?
[20:01] <noneabove> ActionParsnip: changing names becase im going to try again with my usb re-done, im noneabove1182
[20:02] <lokodomain_> having a problem with phpmyadmin on new LAMP installation.  User can't create  any databases and has no priviledges
[20:02] <lokodomain_> any help
[20:02] <lokodomain_> would be much appreciated
[20:02] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: i have switchable graphics but its an AMD 6XXXM i can be more specific if needed would just need to search for it
[20:03] <aayslan> amanda
[20:03] <escott> noneabove1182, can you force it to a particular graphics processor for the install (preferably the intel)
[20:03] <aayslan> aayslan
[20:04] <noneabove1182> escott: i have no idea how to, the switchable graphics are a little odd, but the intel one seems to usually be the default one anyways
[20:04] <melanie_> good evening
[20:05] <escott> noneabove1182, the important thing would be to disable the switchable graphics, and force the system to use one. there hopefully is a bios option
[20:06] <noneabove1182> escott: ive done some searching in the bios about the graphics card but cant usually find one.. either way now my laptop seems to have frozen after reformating the usb :/
[20:06] <temoto_> How to disable banshee popup when song changes?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: oh, those things are a massive pain.
[20:07] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: tell me about it
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: I suggest you use the nomodeset bootoption
[20:07] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: i wish i knew what that meant
[20:08] <RA_drc> how do i restart from the command line?  do i use shutdown -r -t time ?
[20:08] <melanie_> RA_drc: 'reboot' also works.
[20:08] <llutz> RA_drc: sudo reboot
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | noneabove1182
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: nobody is BORN knowing either, use the web to find out
[20:09] <RA_drc> melanie_:  llutz that works even better, thanks!
[20:09] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip thanks haha just had no idea where i would start, ill check the page out
[20:10] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip oh, not sure if this is relevant, but im doing this from usb
[20:10] <escott> noneabove1182, it is
[20:10] <noneabove1182> escott: i just meant for what he was talking about, but yea figures it is
[20:11] <ResQue> ecit
[20:11] <ResQue> exit
[20:11] <ResQue> exit
[20:11] <escott> noneabove1182, if you go back to wubi, and open your usb stick in nautilus and navigate to /boot/grub
[20:11] <FloodBot1> ResQue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <lion42> ...
[20:11] <lion42> rofl.
[20:11] <mfilipe> anyone knows if project hamster has support to Unity?
[20:11] <SirShmoopy> okay, I'm trying to install grub on a flash drive, ends with an error saying there is no grub drive for dev/sdb1?
[20:12] <escott> noneabove1182, you can hand edit your grub.conf to include nomodeset (if the usb doesn't give you a grub boot menu)
[20:12] <noneabove1182> escott: wow im confused XD
[20:14] <escott> noneabove1182, boot back into wubi and plug in the usb. open your file manager and find your usb stick and go to "boot/grub" and then open grub.cfg with a text editor find the lines (there are three of them) that says linux blah blah blah splash and add after splash nomodeset
[20:14] <noneabove1182> escott, ActionParsnip, well im going to try to redo the usb install thing, like install the stuff on the usb again, and then see what happens
[20:15] <noneabove1182> escott: oh okay ill take a print screen of this and use it later
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: remember to MD5 test the image
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: could always try the alternate ISO too (installs in text mode but gives a desktop OS)
[20:16] <JasonGriffee> how do i get my sansa fuze to be recognized by ubuntu as a mp3 device and not a mass storage unit?
[20:17] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip well it froze during the install process (on the usb
[20:17] <edbian> JasonGriffee: switch it from msc to mtp (somewhere in the settings on the device)
[20:17] <SirShmoopy> alternatively, does anyone know how to boot from several isos on a flash drive?
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: worth a try
[20:18] <edbian> JasonGriffee: I am not sure ubuntu is able to use it as an MTP device.  I recommend you just put music on it like a jump drive
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> SirShmoopy: grub2 can boot ISOs so you can add them to grub.cfg and bot what you want
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> *boot
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> ActionParsnip, ive been trying to do that, but it fails
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1.  Check your device.map.
[20:18] <SirShmoopy> Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/sdb1 failed.
[20:19] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip: god my computer is dieing for whatever reason.... universal usb installer keeps not responding
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: is the ram healthy
[20:19] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip healthy in what way ?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: there is a test on the install media to test the RAM
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: you can also install using CD if you have an optical drive
[20:20] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip yea just done have a CD available
[20:20] <JasonGriffee> edbian: now it doesn't reconize it at all
[20:20] <JasonGriffee> it asks what to do, then unmounts it
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: could use the minimal ISO and then very little will be needed of the USB
[20:20] <edbian> JasonGriffee: yeah, I thought that would happen.
[20:21] <edbian> JasonGriffee: Just use it in MSC mode
[20:21] <anonymous2k> hi guys
[20:21] <edbian> anonymous2k: hello
[20:21] <quem> i've had an issue for a while that i can't quite figure out. whenever flash with sound is played by the browser... sound doesn't work in any other applications.. but i can play sound with several different other programs simultaneously.
[20:22] <ih8ipod> does sansa fuse (not the + the original) work with ubuntu 11.04?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> quem: can you give the output of:   lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf        Thanks
[20:23] <SirShmoopy> JasonGriffee, how is it not working? when i plug mine in i can access it from banshee/rhythmbox or nautilus
[20:23] <quem> ActionParsnip: sure. where do you want it?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> quem: any pastebin you like
[20:24] <quem> what happened to pastebin.ca?
[20:24] <Suluiene> anyone use ubuntu as a virtual pc w/ windows host?  i tried using Oracle VirtualBox but, it made a teeny tiny window.
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> http://pastie.org  quem
[20:26] <quem> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/private/jggjylponao330aaz8lawq
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> quem: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[20:27] <seanp2k> 'file' doesn't correctly identify SVG images.  There is no SVG entry in /usr/share/file/magic .
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> quem: gives 64bit flash for your 64bit OS
[20:27] <auronandace> Suluiene: install the virtualbox guest additions and then set the resolution in the guest (ubuntu)
[20:28] <quem> ActionParsnip: ah. thanks.
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[20:28] <FloodBot1> snapperss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> seanp2k: I imagemagick gives the command identify which will give LOTS of data about an image
[20:28] <xangua> hate that
[20:29] <seanp2k> ActionParsnip: the problem is with PHP tho -- is picking up the wrong MIME type and causing problems
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> seanp2k: i see, i don't know anything there personally dude, maybe others can help
[20:30] <seanp2k> ActionParsnip: koo thx
[20:30] <im2ee> Iconia sent me. :)
[20:31] <Suluiene> auronandace: thought i did... perhaps i didn't or did it wrong.  i'll try again.  ty
[20:31] <quem> ActionParsnip: the issue seems to persist. (restarted the browser.)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> quem: is flash ok (or smoother)?
[20:31] <oledole2> Q: So I'm moving my boot/system disk to another disk, and have set up a 100MB /dev/sdb1 for the boot partition, and the rest for LVM at /dev/sdb2. How do I install GRUB onto sdb now, so that when I remove sda everything will work as expected? THanks
[20:33] <quem> ActionParsnip: seems to be. can't tell any difference
[20:33] <Jengerer> Not a Ubuntu-specific question, but since Unix style permissions only have one group and one user as owners, is it not possible to have, say, one group have rw, and another to have r, and other to have no permissions?
[20:34] <jrib> Jengerer: Access Control Lists (man setfacl, man getfacl, remember to add the "acl" option to your fstab)
[20:34] <IdleOne> Jengerer: probably better to ask in ##linux and see what jrib said
[20:34] <hiroko> hi, does anyone know which unicode version is used in natty?
[20:35] <Jengerer> Alright, thanks.
[20:35] <JasonGriffee> edbian: i switched it from auto to msc, i still have some hangups, but i can sync it
[20:35] <genii-around> !info unicode natty
[20:35] <edbian> JasonGriffee: glad to hear it :D
[20:36] <ole_oz6oh> test
[20:36] <JasonGriffee> edbian: ty :)
[20:36] <TimmyT> i want to redirect a socks port to http. i mean i have a socks proxy but my app doesn't support socks and needs http proxy configuration, how can i transport socks into http?
[20:38] <l0ll0lll> hi all. How can i set up static ip address/netmask while using DHCP for gateway and DNS addresses in /etc/network/interface?
[20:39] <ole_oz6oh> test
[20:41] <ole_oz6oh> qz7t de ole
[20:42] <ram0042> anybody using Firefox 5.0?
[20:43] <compdoc> most are, if they update their systems
[20:43] <temoto_> How to disable banshee popup when song changes? [natty]
[20:44] <noneabove1182> hey guys, interesting problem on usb boot now... escott if youre still here, yea... so i tried to do the install on usb thing and everything seemed to work, but now when i boot off usb, i just get a black screen with this message : SYSLINUX 4.04 EDD 2011-04-18 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al
[20:44] <atwoodm> can anyone answer questions about getting gcc 4.6.1 on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:44] <ram0042> I wanted to ask about moonlight support
[20:44] <noneabove1182> and unless im really impatient, nothing happens from there
[20:45] <Zimsky> Hi. I have gnu screen set up, but how do I suspend a session after I have resumed one?
[20:45] <temoto_> atwoodm, doesn't compile?
[20:45] <ram0042> @noneabove1182 how did you put linux on usb?
[20:45] <temoto_> Zimsky, C-a d
[20:45] <atwoodm> temoto_: aptitude, apt-get are currently reporting 4.5.2 is the newest version
[20:46] <Zimsky> Err, is that a control code?
[20:46] <noneabove1182> anyone able to offer some help?
[20:46] <temoto_> Zimsky, Ctrl+a, d
[20:46] <ram0042> I may be able to help you
[20:46] <Zimsky> Ok
[20:46] <Dulak> Zimsky: Ctrl-a d does a detach
[20:46] <noneabove1182> ram0042; was that to me?
[20:46] <temoto_> Seems like a suspend for me.
[20:46] <Zimsky> Yeah, I meant detach
[20:46] <ram0042> noneabove1182 yes
[20:46] <atwoodm> temoto_: do you have to get 4.6 from source?
[20:46] <Zimsky> Thanks. It works.
[20:46] <ram0042> i asked
[20:47] <noneabove1182> ram0042; alright, what can you tell me?
[20:48] <atwoodm> temoto_: ?
[20:48] <ram0042> noneabove1182; what did you use to get Ubuntu on usb?
[20:49] <noneabove1182> ram0042 Universal-USB-Installer-<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:49] <oz7t> test
[20:49] <ram0042> noneabove1182; from pendrivelinux?
[20:50] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: that black screen is what you get before ubuntu kicks in
[20:50] <treebeen> i'm trying to find information on how to boot ubuntu from PXE without nfs. any tips? other distros allow the parameter 'fetch=http://..." to specify the squashfs but this doesn't seem to work here...
[20:50] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what sorry? if it helps i followed the directions on ubuntus site (http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download) word ofr word
[20:50] <atwoodm> anyone else having trouble getting gcc 4.6.1 on ubuntu 11.04?
[20:50] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG are you saying i have to wait a bit?
[20:51] <ram0042> noneabove1182; you're on Windows?
[20:51] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: yes wait
[20:51] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yes
[20:51] <noneabove1182> ram0042 to want me to go reboot and wait like ChristopherNG suggested?\
[20:51] <noneabove1182> also ChristopherNG how long?
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: it should be a few seconds and then you will get a few seconds before a purple screen comes on
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: give it a few mins
[20:52] <ChristopherNG> then come back if you have the same problem
[20:52] <ram0042> noneabove1182; no it will not work but it is up to you
[20:52] <RA_drc> how can i download apt-get to a machine that doesn't have apt-get?
[20:52] <temoto_> atwoodm, getting it from source is a good way.
[20:52] <noneabove1182> ram0042 why do you say it wont? i mean, tell me what you think is happening
[20:52] <IdleOne> RA_drc: packages.ubuntu.com
[20:52] <oz7t> hello friends i am looking for people working with graphic in ubuntu with gcc and other programmes
[20:53] <AviMarcus> Hey. I'm on 11.10 and libre office keeps crashing
[20:53] <IdleOne> !11.10
[20:53] <AviMarcus> where do I find crash logs?
[20:53] <ram0042> noneabove1182; just a bad copy. I have this happend before and have waited half an hour and nothing happens
[20:53] <AviMarcus> erm. I'm on 11.04? Katya, actually :x
[20:53] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you created a live usb, the peter anvin is the black screen you get before the purpose screen kicks in.
[20:53] <IdleOne> AviMarcus: that is Mint?
[20:53] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what sorry? bad copy of what?
[20:53] <IdleOne> !mint
[20:53] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: try booting from it again and give a minute or two and if it doesnt work then come back is my suggestion
[20:54] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright ill just get a bit more info before trying again
[20:54] <RA_drc> IdleOne: from the command line, how would i get to that?
[20:54] <AviMarcus> yeah. K, thought it might be more generic.
[20:54] <atwoodm> anyideas on why my ubuntu doesnt recognize that gcc 4.5.2 isnt the most current version of gcc?
[20:54] <ram0042> noneabove1182; not the iso but the program didn't copy it right.
[20:54] <jaum> Hello, does anyone know how to install wordpress in ubuntu natty?
[20:54] <IdleOne> RA_drc: you could use wget http://link.to.package
[20:54] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yea im gonna give it another shot like ChristopherNG suggested, and if it doesnt work ill come back and maybe try reformating the USB and reinstalling it
[20:54] <ChristopherNG> jaum: did you check the repositories and see if a ppa is available?
[20:55] <ram0042> noneabove1182; sounds good. I will be here
[20:55] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ChristopherNG ill be back in 5-10 min if it doesnt work, if it does then ill try to get on ubuntus firefox asap to let you know or go on another comp to tell
[20:55] <auronandace> !info wordpress | jaum
[20:56] <IdleOne> RA_drc: you also need to get the depends to go along with apt. see http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/apt
[20:56] <JasonGriffee> how do i rip my cds as mp3? wasn't that codec suppose to be installable with the os?
[20:56] <atwoodm> Any ideas on why apptitude and apt-get dont recognized that gcc 4.5.2 is not the most current version
[20:56] <jaum> There is a weblog manager (wordpress) when I search the word "wordpress" in the central programs of ubuntu, I know, another day intalalei him, but managed to get in, how do I ....?
[20:57] <auronandace> !latest | atwoodm
[20:57] <PauloRFP> olha
[20:57] <jaum> !info wordpress
[20:57] <atwoodm> ubottu: i got 9.04 to update to it, not sure why 11.04 wouldnt
[20:57] <PauloRFP> qual o canal do brasil
[20:57] <atwoodm> !backports
[20:58] <auronandace> jaum: sudo apt-get install wordpress
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> !brazil | PauloRFP
[20:59] <jaum> I did the command in the terminal, are installing
[20:59] <ChristopherNG> jaum: well thats good your all set
[20:59] <oledole2> Okey, now I'm really confused. My Ubuntu 10.04 system has the root filesystem under LVM, with a directory named /boot, which has all the kernels I've upgraded recently. Apart from that the boot disk does not have a separate boot parition. How does that work? I thought GRUB could not work with LVM and that a separate boot partition was needed?
[20:59] <ChristopherNG> auronandace: I did ask him if he checked the repositories and to see if there was a ppa available on launchpad, I dont think he checked
[20:59] <jaum> ready, just here, how do you start?wordpress
[21:00] <ChristopherNG> jaum, type wordpress
[21:00] <jahman_> mike are you ready
[21:00] <ChristopherNG> jaum: in a terminal
[21:00] <auronandace> ChristopherNG: yeah, i noticed you told him
[21:00] <cdeszaq> Is it possible to use packages from the universe repository that are target at a different version of ubuntu?
[21:01] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: what do you mean exactly?
[21:01] <jaum> command not found
[21:01] <xangua> cdeszaq: if you mean mix repositories , bad idea
[21:01] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: Other versions of ubuntu like xubuntu and kubuntu use the same ubuntu repositories
[21:01] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: I need to use Tomcat 7, and I see that it is in the universe repo for "oneric". I'd rather use apt to install it rather than doing it manually if possible
[21:02] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: ppa?
[21:02] <cdeszaq> what's ppa?
[21:02] <ChristopherNG> see if there is a ppa on launchpad for it
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> !ppa
[21:03] <xiaoy> How can i get flas player plugin updated in ubuntu?
[21:03] <jaum> wordpress type terminal, command not found
[21:03] <noneabove1182> ram0042 well as you predicted, nothing
[21:03] <ChristopherNG> xiaoy: open a terminal type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:03] <edbian> xiaoy: sudo apt-get insta...
[21:03] <noneabove1182> ram0042 so would you suggest trying to redo the usb?
[21:03] <edbian> ChristopherNG: darn it
[21:03] <ram0042> noneabove1182 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#From%20Windows <---try that one
[21:04] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: There doesn't seem to be a ppa for Tomcat 7
[21:04] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG yea its annoying DX
[21:04] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: you have checked launchpad and there is no ppa?
[21:04] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: did the usb boot work this time?
[21:04] <jaum> hlep
[21:04] <jaum> help
[21:04] <xiaoy> CraHan, ediban: i have it installed already
[21:04] <ole_oz6oh> hello friends is xchat for xpwindows the same as xchat in ubuntu ?
[21:04] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG nope, still frozen on screen
[21:05] <noneabove1182> ram0042 what am i following from there sorry?
[21:05] <xiaoy> i want to upgrade it without upgrade my ubuntu version
[21:05] <ChristopherNG> jaum: have a look under applications it will be under there somewhere
[21:05] <Y2k> ку ку есть кто?=)
[21:05] <ram0042> noneabove1182 can you extract the iso?
[21:06] <tjiggi_fo> !br | jaum
[21:06] <ObrienDave> question: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:06] <noneabove1182> ram0042 you mean like right click and hit extract? if so, no
[21:06] <ChristopherNG> ram0042: I think we should first make sure that his iso is not damaged, perhaps doing a md5sum on his iso in windows before formatting the usb
[21:06] <cdeszaq> ChristopherNG: yes, I entered "Tomcat" in the search bar, and there are only 21 results. None of them look to be for Tomcat 7
[21:06] <HazLT> good evening, i want to upgrade my ubuntu 11.04 java version to the latest one, how can i do it?
[21:06] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG or i could just download a whole new one
[21:06] <ram0042> noneabove1182, do you have such md5 checking software?
[21:07] <xangua> xiaoy: upgrade withouth upgrade¿ how exactly do you want to acomplish that¿ Please  Be Clear
[21:07] <noneabove1182> ram0042 i downloaded something earlier, some cygwin thing
[21:07] <xangua> HazLT: download it from the java site and install it manually
[21:07] <xangua> !latest
[21:07] <ram0042> noneabove1182, ok that works
[21:07] <ChristopherNG> cdeszaq: Sorry not sure in that case
[21:08] <xiaoy> xangua, hmm, ususally the flash plugin is a file (libflashplayer.so), so i download it and i copy it in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/???
[21:08] <ram0042> noneabove1182, wait. Does cygwin have dd comand?
[21:08] <xiaoy> with ubuntu i don't actually understand the right path of the flash plugin
[21:08] <edbian> xiaoy: The package does that for you. (at least it should)
[21:08] <noneabove1182> ram0042 dd ?
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes. it is a command. is it able to do it?
[21:09] <xangua> xiaoy: no idea what are you trying to say, to install the flash plugin: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:09] <xiaoy> edbian, the pkg version is too old, i need the new one to watch bbc videos
[21:09] <xiaoy> xangua, no problem :)
[21:09] <noneabove1182> want me to just type dd into it and see what happens?
[21:09] <noneabove1182> ram0042 ^
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, or man dd
[21:09] <ram0042> noneabove1182, "man dd"
[21:09] <HazLT> how about sun java? is it the same flash plugin?
[21:09] <noneabove1182> nothing seems to be happening
[21:09] <dr_willis> sun java is not flash.
[21:09] <xangua> HazLT: no, they are not the same
[21:10] <tjiggi_fo> noneabove1182, don't mess with dd if you've never used it before!!
[21:10] <ram0042> noneabove1182, ok just try to get some iso extracting software and you might need to get a new copy of the iso
[21:10] <ultrixx> tjiggi_fo: there is a good man page for dd
[21:10] <dr_willis> 'dd' can stand for 'disk destroyer' :) if you dont know how to use it.
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> nice
[21:10] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: the best program to use to make a usb stick from windows is imo unetbootin and the best iso to get started with is the ubuntu 10.04 lts 32 bit
[21:11] <melanie_> dr_willis: haha
[21:11] <ChristopherNG> just for future reference
[21:11] <ram0042> ChristopherNG, thanks for bringing that one up.
[21:11] <HazLT> my friend told me that he installed some "sun java" packages and his flash-based sites is opening and working faster. which packets should i install?
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG and if i want 11.04 64bit?
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> stands for Data Description
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG just curious how i would get to that
[21:12] <noneabove1182> ram0042 and what if just go and assume its not good and download another one?
[21:13] <ram0042> noneabove1182 you mentioned 64 bit. are you getting that one?
[21:13] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: 11.04 is not as stable as 10.04 and even though i have a 64 bit processor i find that alot of drivers etc and plugins are larger and its not as well supported. you will be downloading twice as much.
[21:13] <ChristopherNG> hence i use the 32 bit iso
[21:13] <noneabove1182> ram0042 yes
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seen this one:     dd if=filename of=filename conv=ucase
[21:13] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  but daam i liked the unity look XD
[21:14] <dr_willis> cant say ive seen a ucase option to that. :)
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: uppercases a file
[21:14] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you can get 11.04 if you want, its your choice, Ive chosen to avoid unity personally
[21:14] <temoto_> You can still use natty without unity, like me.
[21:14] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  fair enough, but you would still suggest 32 over 64 then? id like to just get this install to work
[21:14] <t4nk993> How can I exit script without closing the terminal?
[21:14] <ObrienDave> unity is a pita. i boot into classic no effects.
[21:14] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: I would recommend 32 over 64 yes
[21:14] <dr_willis> t4nk993,  you mean the 'exit' command?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: I just use LXDE
[21:15] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you casn
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> ObrienDave: unity2D replaces Classic in Oneiric
[21:15] <DaDog> hello, i had a problem when i tried to install gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04.... anybody knows how to reinstall unity or anything?
[21:15] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: you can always make a 64 bit one later, but atleast start with 32 and get a feel for it.
[21:15] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG you dont think theres a noticable difference?
[21:15] <auronandace> !gnome3 | DaDog
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: I've seen a script, I recommend you reinstall
[21:15] <ObrienDave> actionparsnip. tnx.
[21:15] <dr_willis> DaDog,  dident notice all the warnings out about not doing that eh? :)
[21:15] <DaDog> reinstall what?
[21:16] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG well i just figured id rather do this once in one go :P ive already played around with 11.04 using the wubi stuff but wanted to do it properly
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: http://www.ajopaul.com/2011/04/26/ubuntu-11-04-uninstall-gnome3-and-revert-to-gnome-2-x/
[21:16] <t4nk993> dr_willis: yes
[21:16] <JasonGriffee> archive manager says extraction completes successfully, but no file extracted
[21:16] <DaDog> dr_willis yeah :D but i wanted to try xD
[21:16] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: np
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: you MUST have seen the warnings all over. Why did you install it still....
[21:16] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: the great thing about linux is that ammount of choice so do what you feel is right for you
[21:17] <dr_willis> t4nk993,  i think you need to clarify exactly what you are trying to do.  if i run a script via   ./scriptname   it does not close the terminal here.
[21:17] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG yea true, so anyways now i gotta wait for the new one to download, might take awhile with my slow internet haha
[21:18] <DaDog> sorry, i read the warnings ... i did something very stupid i know...
[21:18] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: try using unetbootin this time to make the usb stick, there is alot more tutorials and support out there for it
[21:18]  * ActionParsnip sighs
[21:18] <t4nk993> dr_willis: I wrote a script, with an "exit 1" in there. When I run ". profile", it closes the terminal.
[21:18] <Ramses_> nothing is too stupid
[21:18] <melanie_> t4nk993: that's correct
[21:19] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright sure, well, ill be off eating while this downloads and hopefully itll be close by the time im done... any last words i should know before i leave and try this on my own later ?
[21:19] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes unetbooting is successful, mostly
[21:19] <melanie_> t4nk993: the dot prevents the shell from spawning a subprocess for script execution.
[21:19] <DaDog> what can i do for uninstall the gnome ?
[21:19] <SirShmoopy> would i be able to install grub directing to a folder instead of a device?
[21:19] <ram0042> noneabove1182, 32 bit ubuntu works faster than 64 bit on my systems for some reason
[21:19] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: my last advice is make sure you have downloaded the iso fully and make sure you select the correct usb drive to create the live usb
[21:20] <t4nk993> melanie_: silly me, I wanted to do ./profile
[21:20] <t4nk993> Thank you
[21:20] <SirShmoopy> figured id ask before trying it and maybe breaking something
[21:20] <ChristopherNG> noneabove1182: and use unetbootin
[21:20] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG alright, thanks, ill be on in like an hour probably so ill give you a ring if youre still on
[21:20] <ChristopherNG> np
[21:21] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG real quick though, i would select 11.04_Live_64 right?
[21:21] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG  er, x64, either way
[21:21] <ChristopherNG> you mean the iso name?
[21:22] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG no for the drop down on what im making, i assume the x64 means 64bit
[21:22] <ChristopherNG> yes
[21:22] <Ramses_> of course
[21:22] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll hope that web help me
[21:22] <noneabove1182> and also real quick ChristopherNG, should i have disk image selected?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: i'dreinstall personally
[21:23] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: that means lose all programs and files??
[21:23] <GTAXL> Anybody know why I keep getting errors. I'm just trying to make a snapshots folder for spgrab, but permissions won't work. :/ http://pastebin.com/L29PbW8J
[21:24] <ram0042> noneabove1182, yes you should
[21:24] <noneabove1182> ram0042 thanks :)
[21:24] <noneabove1182> kk going now, see yall later!
[21:24] <ram0042> noneabove1182, alright
[21:24] <ole__> why shall i pay for xcat in windows and not in Linux?
[21:24] <ObrienDave> sorry to ask again: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:25] <Ramses_> soon we will be selling commercial copies of Linux
[21:25] <xangua> ole__: that has nothing to do with ubuntu. you can download xchat from xchat.org
[21:25] <tekess> hi.. is anyone having trouble with HDMI output? I'm using my tv as screen and everything worked fine with ubuntu 9, I didn't have to configure anything, but with ubuntu 11 it just won't work
[21:26] <xangua> Ramses_: they are already; free as in freedom not as in free beer
[21:26] <ultrixx> ole__: you can still use xchat in windows for free. get virtualbox and let ubuntu+xchat run in the virtual machine on windows
[21:26] <xangua> !ot
[21:26] <xangua> for years, but a little offtopic here
[21:26] <Ramses_> but we will cherge in double if ti dont fit you your needs
[21:26] <ole__> xangua,  yes i use xchat in my ubuntu and the i can transfre a file but not in windows after 30 days
[21:27] <Ramses_> pardon, we will refund in double in case of problems
[21:27] <Jonn_> excuse-me, can someone please tell me the channel to the C++ programming discussion?
[21:27] <h00k> !alis | Jonn_
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: no as you have backups, right?
[21:27] <Ramses_> such channel dont exist (yet)
[21:27] <Jonn_> great!...thank you
[21:27] <ole__> ultrixx,  ok
[21:28] <Ramses_> I need an x86 assembly channel
[21:28] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: mmm... no i have nor
[21:28] <TrinitronX> can anyone verify that this package link returns a 404: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/ruby1.8/libopenssl-ruby1.8_<IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1.2_i386.deb
[21:28] <RA_drc> how do i shut down using the command line?  i tried typing shutdown -h -t 10, but it's still giving me a syntax error
[21:29] <ram0042> yup 404  in US
[21:29] <ObrienDave> DaDog. 3 rules of computer ownership... Backup, Backup, BACKUP!!!
[21:29] <xiaoy> So for who might want to know how to get his/her flasplayer plugin updated to the newest version... here is a what i did:
[21:29] <ram0042> "sudo shutdown -h now"?
[21:29] <HazLT> yep, 404
[21:29] <jrib> RA_drc: what do you expect -t to do?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> DaDog: then you should get one, what if your drive dies, where is your data??
[21:30] <TrinitronX> where does one report apt repo issues?
[21:30] <xiaoy> sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree
[21:30] <TrinitronX> I cannot currently install this on hardy: apt-get install libopenssl-ruby libopenssl-ruby1.8
[21:30] <HazLT> xiaoy: yeah, im listening
[21:30] <ChristopherNG> RA_drc: "sudo shutdown now"
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: what is the output of the command please? use a pastebin
[21:30] <xiaoy> or if u have it installed sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer
[21:30] <RA_drc> jrib: i expect -t to give me a delay between the warning and the actual shutdown beginning
[21:30] <ChristopherNG> jrib: -t is for time
[21:30] <DaDog> yeah, i know i know...
[21:30] <xiaoy> then download the tarball of the flsh plugin for linux:
[21:31] <ole__> ultrixx,   try http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080
[21:31] <xiaoy> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/multimedia/flash-player-plugin/
[21:31] <xiaoy> from here ^ should be ok
[21:31] <RA_drc> ChristopherNG: that works, thanks
[21:31] <jrib> RA_drc: why do you expect -t to do that?  it's not in the documentation for shutdown
[21:31] <ChristopherNG> np
[21:31] <xiaoy> 32 bit and 64 bit versions are both aviable
[21:31] <xiaoy> lets say u have, like i do, a 64 bit ubuntu: so....
[21:31] <RA_drc> jrib: you're right, my mistake.  so if i want to specify a time, i should do "sudo shutdown <some time in minutes>"?
[21:31] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/8DsXHP7Z
[21:32] <HazLT> xiaoy: ok thanks, i will try it !
[21:32] <jrib> RA_drc: exactly
[21:32] <xangua> xiaoy: installing flash plugin from rpository works perfectly...
[21:32] <ChristopherNG> RA_drc: you need to use "sudo" as superuser for shutdown
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/install-64bit-flash-from-a-ppa-or-deb/
[21:32] <xiaoy> wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11/flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: its for ubuntu, not slax ;)
[21:32] <RA_drc> jrib: alright, thanks
[21:32] <smulcahy> any tips for software to teach an older person how to use a mouse?
[21:32] <DaDog> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try to uninstall or the plan "b" XD
[21:32] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, please i'm talking about the latest, no repos here, just old linux way
[21:32] <RA_drc> ChristopherNG: interesting, thanks
[21:32] <xiaoy> to watch BBc videos u need always the latest
[21:33] <constantinos> Hello everyone. I've just installed 11.04 and I'm a bit frustrated. In 'Additional Drivers' it says that "The driver is activated but not currently in use". What does it mean?
[21:33] <xiaoy> so where i was...
[21:33] <xiaoy> wget http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11/flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:33] <gmed> Hi, can someone help me with a instalation problem?
[21:33] <SirShmoopy> is there a way to regress a program i just updated? i upgraded mkvmerge about twenty minutes ago, and now when it runs my system grinds to a near stop while it works
[21:33] <ole__> ultrixx,  can you see me ?
[21:33] <ultrixx> ole__: yes
[21:33] <xiaoy> tar gxvf flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311.tar.gz
[21:33] <jimubao> hi there i'm having problems with skype, it is showing another skype instance may exist
[21:33] <ole__> Ultr
[21:33] <xiaoy> cd flashplayer11_b1_install_lin_64_071311
[21:33] <jimubao> how can i resolve this problem with out restarting the comp
[21:34] <jimubao> i tried killall skype in terminal already
[21:34] <ole__> ultrixx,  ok thats my webcam
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: old skool is always great :)
[21:34] <xiaoy> sudo cp libflashplayer.so<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:34] <xiaoy> the {ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384} dir
[21:34] <xiaoy> is on my pc
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: try changing repo from the US server
[21:34] <xiaoy> you should have your own personal code
[21:35] <jimubao> i'mg getting this error with skype, the other skype instance may exist , how can i resolve this problem without restarting skype
[21:35] <xiaoy> just change to thet dir and copy the libflashplayer.so file there
[21:35] <jimubao> without restarting comp
[21:35] <xiaoy> now open up FF, and u can watch London burning
[21:35] <ole__> ultrixx,  i se your name is susi
[21:36] <SirShmoopy> jimubao, would that include not logging out?
[21:36] <xiaoy> i hope it helps
[21:36] <jimubao> yeah coz i have lots file opend up
[21:36] <zykotick9> jimubao, "ps aux | grep skype" does it list anything?  If so kill the process or process name.
[21:36] <gmed> anyone?
[21:37] <HazLT> xiaoy:  thanks  a lot again :)
[21:37] <ram0042> gmed?
[21:37] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: I'm using the us repo (us.archive.ubuntu.com) for 'hardy' and 'hardy-updates'.... but 'security.ubuntu.com' for 'hardy-security'
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: If you put it in /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/ it will be used by all browsers, not just firefox
[21:37] <zykotick9> gmed, ask the real quetsion
[21:37] <ole__> gmed ?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: maybe the repo is being updated
[21:37] <jimubao> zykotick9: how do i kill the process ?
[21:37] <HazLT> jimubao: try to kill it from "system monitor"
[21:37] <ram0042> gmed, installation problem right?
[21:37] <gmed> Instalation freeze when loading partition table (I belive)
[21:37] <zykotick9> jimubao, "kill PID#" or "killall PROCESS_NAME"
[21:38] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, i did that but didn't really work in FF... but yea it should
[21:38] <TrinitronX> ActionParsnip: Here is my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/mYtgbq80
[21:38] <ram0042> gmed, get alternative iso
[21:38] <gmed> Live CD works fine, but I can,t install
[21:38] <gmed> ram0042, I did
[21:38] <xiaoy> HazLT, ;-)
[21:38] <zykotick9> jimubao, run either of the above command, then verify with the "ps aux.." again to verify it's killed
[21:38] <gmed> it freezes too
[21:39] <ram0042> gmed, ok are you able to go to system settings during installation>?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: I have it in that folder and in /usr/share/ubufox/plugins/ too, works in Chromium as well :)
[21:39] <gmed> I tried to open GParted, no luck
[21:39] <ole__> gmed you can maybe make an install from an usb
[21:39] <jimubao> i ver tried killall skype
[21:39] <gmed> Yes
[21:39] <jimubao> is still showing 2 skype process
[21:40] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, once u remove the plugin with apt-get it deletes that directory
[21:40] <zykotick9> jimubao, are you sure skype is the process name?
[21:40] <ole__> gmed i have had the same problem with one off my computers
[21:40] <gmed> ram0042, yes, I can
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> TrinitronX: try changing the us server to the main server like the bottom lines and it may help
[21:40] <jimubao> jimubao   2207  1.2  2.3<PHONE_NUMBER>0 ?        Sl   09:15   0:17 skype
[21:40] <jimubao> jimubao   4067  0.0  0.0  13136  1064 pts/1    S+   09:40   0:00 grep --color=auto skype
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: I thought you were doing it old school
[21:40] <gmed> usb install is not avaliable on BIOS...old machine
[21:40] <zykotick9> jimubao, if you tried kill and it failed it's time for -9.  "killall -9 skype"
[21:40] <ram0042> gmed, ok open up system monitor and run the installation along with it to see if your system is bottlenecking
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> gmed: got a floppy drive?
[21:41] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, yes old school, but first i purged old flshplugin from repos :D
[21:41] <Ramses_> I dont see a floppy for a while now
[21:41] <jimubao> jimubao   4072  0.0  0.0  13132  1060 pts/1    S+   09:41   0:00 grep --color=auto skype
[21:41] <jimubao> still have one more running
[21:41] <gmed> ram0042, i´ll try...
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> xiaoy: having the home plugins directory only enabled flash for that userm not really practical in a multiuser system ;)
[21:41] <zykotick9> jimubao, no that's the search ;)
[21:41] <gmed> ActionParsnip. yes, why?
[21:41] <ram0042> gmed, alright
[21:41] <jimubao> zykotick9: so it should work now
[21:41] <Ramses_> I have software to format floppies low level
[21:41] <zykotick9> jimubao, yup
[21:42] <Ramses_> sources I mean
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> gmed: there is a floppy image to boot to which will then boot the USB
[21:42] <xiaoy> ActionParsnip, infact the way i did should work for all users
[21:42] <jimubao> zykotick9: nice dude thanks ~ what does killall -9 do ?
[21:42] <jimubao> zykotick9: yeap is working now thanks ^^
[21:42] <gmed> ActionParsnip. really? where?
[21:42] <zykotick9> jimubao, ONLY use that in emergencies - it kills without asking permission
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> gmed: pendrivelinux. Websearch and you will find it
[21:43] <gmed> ram0042, loading CD...
[21:43] <gmed> ActionParsnip, Thanks!
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> np
[21:44] <Ramses_> I need sources for time travel
[21:44] <jimubao> so kill -9 kill process without permission ?..
[21:44] <zykotick9> jimubao, a regular kill or killall is basically asking a process to stop, the -9 just stops it.
[21:44] <dr_willis> -9 = kill with extreme prejudice :)
[21:44] <gmed> ActionParsnip, I´ll try that if CD does not work
[21:45] <ObrienDave> ok ok one last time: how do I make ubuntu boot from usb drive? no problem running from usb stick. very frustrating
[21:45] <cbilljones> Hi, my laptop has only one speaker, any way force mono sound in 11.04?
[21:45] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  you mean a usb hard drive?    Mine boot same as from a usb flash drive.
[21:45] <Ramses_> this is a good idea
[21:45] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  did you do a full install to the usb hard drive?
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, I belive there is no bottleneck, Live CD continue normaly...
[21:46] <gmed> instalation process is Sleeping
[21:46] <ram0042> so it did go through this time or didn't
[21:46] <ram0042> gmed
[21:46] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, yep I have a 2TB usb drive I have n=been trying to use for booting ubuntu. no luck
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, sorry
[21:46] <gmed> ram0042, it is still loading
[21:46] <vikingur> Obrien, did you install grub and if yes, where did you install it?
[21:46] <HazLT> how can i see if the latest display drivers is installed on my pc?
[21:46] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  during the install process did you notice it asking where to install grub to?  you could have made sure it got installed to the usb hard drive.
[21:46] <vikingur> *ObrienDave
[21:47] <ram0042> gmed, i want to know if it bottlenecks when the partitoin table shows up
[21:47] <Ramses_> someone need to create fat64
[21:48] <gmed> ram0042, It has never showed up
[21:48] <jimubao> zykotick9: thanks !!
[21:48] <jimubao> zykotick9: works like a charm
[21:48] <zykotick9> jimubao, glad to help
[21:49] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, i tried to use separate partition. installed grub to sda. would not boot. took me hours to fix win7 boot problem after that
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: what video chip do you use?
[21:49] <gmed> ram0042, after selecting "proceed", the second screen, my mouse cursor is in "loading" and stays there
[21:49] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: an old ATI Radeon 9600 series
[21:49] <dr_willis> ObrienDave,  Huh? I install to a external usb hard drive, let it use the whole disk. and tell it to put grub on sdb (in that case) and  then told the bios to boot that drive.. worked fine.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: thatwill be supported by the open driver, let me check
[21:50] <vikingur> ObrienDave, in my experience the easiest way to boot ubuntu from a usb drive is to install grub to the mbr *of the usb drive*
[21:50] <HazLT> ok, waitin
[21:51] <Ramses_> now I know that a usb has a mbr, thanks
[21:51] <vikingur> ObrienDave, installing it to the mbr of your local disk would make booting from the usb drive a lot more difficult
[21:51] <ObrienDave> dr_willis, tnx. i have old windows backups on the 2TB. did not want to occupy the whole drive just yet.
[21:51] <vikingur> ObrienDave, you don't need to overwrite the whole drive to install grub to its mbr
[21:51] <dr_willis> if theres no windows OS on the usb drive. you can put grub on its MBR just fine.
[21:52] <dr_willis> and just partition it as you want. ObrienDave
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: is it using the ati driver or the radeon driver?
[21:52] <agent> nick aquarat
[21:52] <agent> bah
[21:53] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: emm, how can i check wich driver it uses?
[21:53] <ObrienDave> vikingur, that's what I thought. will try it again. tnx for the help
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: sudo lshw -C display | grep driver
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: it'll take a while to run
[21:55] <altangell> hello
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hi altangell
[21:55] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: driver=radeon
[21:57] <altangell> may i ask you where are you from ActionParsnip?
[21:57] <gigenieks> hi all!
[21:57] <Ramses_> hello
[21:57] <HazLT> gigenieks: hi
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> altangell: uk
[21:57] <altangell> hi gigenieks
[21:57] <kreuter> hi #ubuntu.  I'm working on an upstart job definition file; if the job says "start on runlevel [2345]", can I be sure that the network job has already been run?
[21:57] <Ramses_> I will be on a UK prison very soon
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: can't see an update, even Oneiric only has a mildly later version
[21:58] <gigenieks> I have some problems (nothing major), so I wanted to make topic about it.
[21:58] <gigenieks> in Ubuntu Forums
[21:58] <altangell> ok ActionParsnip
[21:58] <altangell> i m from Romania
[21:58] <dr_willis> kreuter,  i think theres some 'depends on' type option in the config to be sure it runs after networking is up. perhaps check some of the other config files.
[21:58] <leelo> altangell: where at in Romania?
[21:58] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: but can i see which version am i using now?
[21:58] <altangell> do you know where is it this country
[21:58] <altangell> ?
[21:58] <altangell> :D
[21:58] <kreuter> dr_willis: thanks
[21:58] <gigenieks> but I can't use stuff like bolding, italic or adding url
[21:58] <gigenieks> by clicking on those icons
[21:59] <jthomas_> cle
[21:59] <gigenieks> it just doesn't show that I can do that
[21:59] <Ramses_> tell me something good about Romania
[21:59] <gigenieks> hope someone understands what I mean
[21:59] <gigenieks> what is problem?
[21:59] <dr_willis> kreuter,  i notice in smbd.conf ---> start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up)
[21:59] <gigenieks> i have Xubuntu
[21:59] <leelo> altangell: I was there last month
[21:59] <gigenieks> few days ago installed it
[22:00] <altangell> Ramses: Romania has a good doctors engineers ... but ther aren t appreciate
[22:00] <altangell> what ele
[22:00] <gmed> ram0042, you there?
[22:00] <leelo> altangell: I was in Bucharest and Brasov
[22:00] <altangell> else
[22:00] <gmed> ram0042, system monitor is open
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> HazLT: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[22:00] <padi999> ok, this is only for hardcore people: I bought a USB floppy drive (DeLock). When I plug it,it shows up as "Floppy Drive" in "Computer" but I cannot click it or mount it or connect to the data in any way. Any hints there?
[22:00] <altangell> leelo
[22:00] <Ramses_> I will visit Romania some day
[22:00] <HazLT> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[22:01] <altangell> Romania is wonderfut but a kind of people are very bad
[22:01] <gigenieks> ....
[22:01] <dr_willis> padi999,  try mounting it by hand? with proper sudo mount commands
[22:02] <HazLT> is dracula lived in romania?:)
[22:02] <Ramses_> yes, Dracula lives there
[22:02] <altangell> yes HazLt
[22:02] <padi999> dr_willis, okay, let's see, I googled for "usb mount floppy drive" but so far I didn'tfind the proper command :)
[22:02] <altangell> but many years ago
[22:02] <altangell> :))
[22:02] <Myrtti> !offtopic | altangell
[22:02] <gigenieks> Can someone help me with that or I have to do 2 topics in Forums then? :D
[22:02] <compdoc> I think Dracula sucked
[22:02] <karlo> hi, I had a cool program long time ago that could shot down computer on determined time, do command on determined time, do command when something closes or open.. etc, anybody know name of that program?
[22:03] <altangell> ok
[22:03] <HazLT> awesome, so this is not a myth? :)
[22:03] <altangell> i have a big problem in ubuntu
[22:03] <Ramses_> I know people on the net that is worse than Dracula
[22:03] <altangell> can you help me please
[22:03] <altangell> >
[22:03] <ikonia> altangell: what's the issue
[22:03] <edbian> karlo: at
[22:03] <padi999> altangell, tell the prolem first...
[22:03] <karlo> edbian what?
[22:03] <ring2> what is the replacement for the main logfile /var/log/messages in 11.04?
[22:03] <altangell> oki padi999
[22:03] <kreuter> dr_willis: thanks, I think it's making more sense now.
[22:04] <edbian> karlo: at is a command that tells the computer do this at such and such time
[22:04] <ikonia> ring2: should still be there
[22:04] <altangell> i want to install some programs but i can t
[22:04] <Myrtti> altangell: which programmes and how?
[22:04] <altangell> i don t know how can i do
[22:04] <Ramses_> just missing libraries
[22:04] <ikonia> altangell: how are you trying to do it
[22:04] <gigenieks> O.K. tnx I guess.
[22:04] <S4nD3r> Hi there! How do I solve this problem? http://pastebin.com/qC8Z43RQ
[22:04] <ben_q> hello, is there a simple way of creating a wireless AP from my ubuntu notebook? (internet via ethernet) I want to share the internet with my mobile phone. I tried to create a new connection in the network manager, but it kept connecting and disconnecting on itself until the manager crashed. the phone never saw the network
[22:04] <gigenieks> bye
[22:05] <altangell> so for the first time i have a amd 2400mhz 521 ram hdd 20 rivatnt2
[22:05] <padi999> altangell, what is the problem
[22:05] <Myrtti> gigenieks: what was your question then?
[22:05] <ikonia> altangell: how are you tyring to install the software
[22:05] <karlo> edbian Im looking for a gui program, and it could do something not just on time, it could do something on anything
[22:05] <altangell> and i want to install compiz fusion and
[22:05] <altangell> a moment please
[22:05] <Myrtti> gigenieks: although, did you get any help in #xubuntu?
[22:06] <altangell> sudo? apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[22:06] <altangell> Avant Windows Manager
[22:06] <edbian> karlo: I've never seen anything like that.  It might exist :)
[22:06] <ikonia> altangell: ok - so what's the problem
[22:06] <karlo> edbian I had it, and forgot the name :/
[22:06] <Ramses_> why you dont install it manually?
[22:06] <altangell> i tried with synaptic and add/remove and sudo
[22:07] <iceroot> karlo: so you are searching for a gui to use cron?
[22:07] <ikonia> altangell: what's the actuall problem/error/warning