[00:06] <alan23424> Right is there something for ubuntu that would have it create daily system status emails for me - like on bsd
[00:07] <RoyK> alan23424: what sort of reports?
[00:07] <RoyK> a cronjob would probably do...
[00:09] <alan23424> I have one hosted debian box, whoever built it has cron email root daily with failed ssh attempts, disk usage, net usage and other fun stuff
[00:09] <alan23424> wondered if that sounded like something obvious
[00:09] <alan23424> and not homemade
[00:30] <RoyK> alan23424: for failed ssh, denyhosts is a better approach
[00:30] <RoyK> for net usage, find some graphing stuff like munin
[00:31] <RoyK> getting that over email is what they did in the eightees or ninetees, current systems are better
[00:32] <RoyK> disk usage should be monitored by something like nagios/icinga
[00:33] <RoyK> so you get an altert if it reaches a certain threashold
[00:33] <RoyK> no reason for an admin to read daily emails about 45% disk space used
[01:15] <Alan> what's the best way to (headlessly) boot the previous kernel in ubuntu server?
[01:59] <pehden> QUESTION: postfix , dovecot , spamassasin , with procmail, I had this all set up and I had an issue with something else so i had removed postfix , well before my email would come into folder /home/pehden/mail     now it keeps going to /var/mail/pehden what do i need to do to fix this back so i can use my webmail lite to check it
[02:01] <pehden> urgent
[02:09] <pehden> well great
[02:10] <pehden> 256 people in here and no one real
[02:27] <pmatulis> Alan: remove the most recent kernel
[02:28] <pmatulis> pehden: how can you be getting mail if you don't have an MTA (ex: Postfix) anymore?
[02:28] <Delerium_> Hi Guys, I'am having a VM (Ubuntu Server on VBox) on my Win7 PC.  My router forward port 80 to this VM.  I need to secure this VM so in case of attack, this very VM won't be able to reach my internal network.  Should I use SELinux or Iptables under Ub Server?
[02:29] <patdk-lap> hmm, both?
[02:29] <patdk-lap> they both do totally different things
[02:29] <pehden> pmatulis i reinstalled it
[02:30] <pmatulis> pehden: i guess you lost the original configuration then
[02:30] <pehden> pmatulis i know thats why im asking what would i need for the conf to have it put the email back in that folder
[02:32] <Delerium_> patdk-lap, What are the main differences?
[02:32] <patdk-lap> one is a firewall, the other is not :)
[02:32] <patdk-lap> kind of like meat and oranges
[02:33] <patdk-lap> both food, but nothing in common with each other otherwise
[02:33] <Delerium_> patdk-lap, K, for my congirutation, I guess I should use SeLinux?
[02:33] <patdk-lap> I have no idea
[02:33] <patdk-lap> iptables protects you from doing stupid things on the network level
[02:33] <patdk-lap> selinux stops programs from doing stupid things
[02:34] <pmatulis> Delerium_: ubuntu uses apparmor by default.  why would you also use selinux?
[02:34] <Delerium_> patdk-lap, Thanks!  That exactly the differences I want to know ;)
[02:35] <Delerium_> pmatulis, Hee... I'll check AppArmor also then.. Haven't been using Linux for a while so I'm learning all there new technology that have been added over the years
[04:48] <osmosis> im looking to do  apt-get install monodb, but it wants to install like 100 xorg dependencies with it.  its a db, not a gui app, so im not sure why this is so.
[04:48] <osmosis> on lucid
[04:50] <ScottK> There's no Ubuntu package named monodb in Lucid.
[04:51] <ScottK> If you're installing a third party package of some kind, you'll need to ask them.
[04:51] <osmosis> sorry, mongodb
[04:54] <ScottK> Because it depends on xulrunner-1.9.2-dev
[04:56] <osmosis> is there a way to lookup the date that a package was installed?
[05:03] <jmarsden> osmosis: look in /var/log/dpkg.log* for it
[05:22] <goddard> i want to make a complete system image backup over the network while the server is running possible?
[05:30] <osmosis> jmarsden, hrmm...dpkg.log is set with logrotate is fade away
[05:31] <jmarsden> osmosis: Yes, my machine here keeps a year worth online, after that I'd need to dig out old archival backups...
[08:10] <philipballew> i want to set up ssh on it but i have a dynamic ip address
[08:10] <philipballew> how can i do this
[08:13] <jmarsden> philipballew: Use openssh-server as normal, and use a dynamic DNS provider such as no-ip.com to provide DNS that changes when your dynamic IP changes.
[08:14] <philipballew> thats what i was gonna do. so like when i log into the server i do ssh (domain givin by the noip service) correct?
[08:15] <philipballew> how can i find my outside ip addres on my cli system. ifconfig doesnt show it. i was just gonna sing myself down with my laptop after copying my ip address down
[08:16] <eagles0513875> hey guys how can i ensure a user has access to an nfs share
[08:16] <eagles0513875> im doing some testing on natty im not seeing any nfs group or anything
[08:20] <eagles0513875> any nfs experts in here
[08:21] <philipballew> fot this service should i give them my 192.168.whatever or my outside address; 69.whatever?
[08:29] <eagles0513875> philipballew: what are you trying to do?
[08:32] <philipballew> set up ssh on my ubuntu server with a dynamic ip
[08:33] <eagles0513875> philipballew: the easiest thing to do would sign up with dyndns to keep track of the dynamic ip and changes
[08:33] <eagles0513875> that way then you ssh using the dyndns domain you have
[08:34] <philipballew> i was gonna do no ip maybe. is that the same?
[08:35] <philipballew> but i did not know what to put when the thing asked for my ip address? do i give them my one thats the 192.whatever or my 69.whatever?
[08:37] <eagles0513875> ya no ip is the same
[08:38] <eagles0513875> they would want your public ip
[08:38] <eagles0513875> as your internal ip they wont see it
[08:38] <eagles0513875> and im guessing you have a router as well in the setup
[08:39] <eagles0513875> I have a quick question regarding nfs. Is there an nfs group i add a particular user to to give them access to the share?
[08:39] <philipballew> i do have a router. its a 2wire
[08:45] <eagles0513875> since you have a dynamic ip you need ur router to perform NAT to share with ur internal network ur internal ip will never be seen
[08:45] <eagles0513875> so you need the external one specified
[08:46] <philipballew> alright. i was just gonna use say elinks and go to whatsmyip and copy from there
[08:46] <philipballew> but im probably doin it wrong
[08:46] <eagles0513875> actually you can go onto ur router and find out from the routers web interface
[08:47] <philipballew> hum. but wouldnt this just make my log into my router and not my server?
[08:48] <eagles0513875> ya but you can get the public ip you have from there
[08:48] <philipballew> what do you mean
[08:54] <eagles0513875> you can find network information like the public ip and more
[08:54] <eagles0513875> you have the router firewall and portforwarding etc there
[08:54] <eagles0513875> so if you have your server behind the router firewall youll need to portforward
[08:55] <eagles0513875> otherwise you can throw it on the router dmz to be directly outside the network then though ull need ur server to do dhcp dns etc
[08:58] <philipballew> so when i now have givin noip my 69........ address and the damian i chose whats gonna happen when i enter ssh domain into the terminal?
[09:24] <philipballew> im trying to get the ssh key onto my server via flash drive, where is the drive if ls is not showing it in media?
[10:18] <anonissimus> anyone around to help me with this apache virtualhost problem, I added blog.ddomain.tld /var/www/blog to the virtualhosts but nothing loads when I navigate to blog.domain.tld
[11:46] <brontosaurusrex>  i have an intranet web/ftp server and i would like to do a partial mirror on the remote machine, is there a ftp flag i could use, so that users would specifically flag files that are to be synced?
[11:59] <airtonix> anonissimus: i like the detail in your request. :>
[12:10] <anonissimus> airtonix: was that ironic? I can be more specific but the domains don't really matter don't they?
[12:11] <anonissimus> I did a more descriptive one before
[12:16] <airtonix> your virtualhost conf file matters
[12:16] <airtonix> so does your bind dns setup if you rely on it
[12:17] <airtonix> anonissimus: so pastebin : /etc/apache2/sites-available/X (where X is the virtualhost conf file for your thing)
[13:57] <hallyn> Daviey: good morning - no email yet about documentation, right?
[14:03] <anonissimus> airtonix: http://pastebin.com/q6A1U25Y
[14:04] <airtonix> anonissimus: for future ref, unless your vhost needs it. get rid of lines 16 - 22
[14:04] <airtonix> anonissimus: wordpress does not need it
[14:07] <anonissimus> allright
[14:07] <airtonix> anonissimus: also, none of it looks wrong, (but this is how i would structure it : http://pastebin.com/SMkkbJz9 ) so it's up to a question of how you're domain name is resolved
[14:07] <airtonix> anonissimus: i like to keep my subdomain/intranet apps portable and self contained.
[14:07] <anonissimus> well the point is that anonissimus.be resolves
[14:07] <anonissimus> but the *.anonissimus.be does not
[14:08] <airtonix> anonissimus: and are you running your own dns server or is it something thats provided by another host ?
[14:08] <anonissimus> dns is provided by my host
[14:10] <airtonix> anonissimus: i assume you have a CNAME record blog CNAME anonissimus.be ?
[14:10] <anonissimus> I requested that some days ago
[14:10] <anonissimus> but it seems that with holidays it doesnt get changed
[14:12] <airtonix> anonissimus: so it's not a dns server under your control ?
[14:12] <anonissimus> nope
[14:12] <airtonix> anonissimus: did you just ask for wildcard subdomains?
[14:13] <anonissimus> nope I asked specifically for the blog subdomain to point to the ip of my server
[14:15] <airtonix> anonissimus: you can find out if it resolves with dig or host : http://dpaste.com/535432/
[14:15] <airtonix> but at the moment it does not
[14:16] <anonissimus> hmhm so there we have the problem
[14:16] <anonissimus> a lazy admin
[14:16] <anonissimus> :D
[14:16] <airtonix> makes me glad that i'm with webfaction
[14:16] <anonissimus> well, it's a friend of a friend
[14:16] <anonissimus> and I barely use it
[14:17] <anonissimus> so I guess I get what I pay for
[14:17] <airtonix> there you go
[14:18] <anonissimus> off to some more networking fun, thanks again
[14:24] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[15:18] <hggdh> zul: can I have the whole of the test rig?
[15:18] <hggdh> morning, RoAkSoAx
[15:19] <zul> hggdh, yep
[15:20] <hggdh> zul: thank you
[15:22] <RoyK> test rig?
[15:24] <robbiew> hggdh: hey...saw the comments on bug 717166
[15:25] <robbiew> did something get left out?
[15:25]  * robbiew is not panicking...fwiw, just interested
[15:25] <hggdh> robbiew: not to our knowledge -- but I just tried again with current ISO, and it failed miserably
[15:25]  * hggdh is, OTOH, starting to panic
[15:25] <robbiew> :/
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: morning
[15:26] <robbiew> hggdh: heh...it's always fixable in an SRU ;)
[15:27] <hggdh> RoyK: a few systems we have where we can test some stuff without blowing everything else to hell :-)
[15:28] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: when you free, could you pelase verify bug #648202
[15:28] <hggdh> robbiew: yeah, but it is not kosher :-(
[15:29] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: did you also change from egrep to 'grep -E'? egrep is the obsolete form, and it is not generically portable
[15:32] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: not I didn't change anything I just got the patches that were there already and put them together as they all work and the fixes are in Maverick
[15:38] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx: OK. I will test it as soon as possible on lucid
[15:38] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: awesome, thank you!
[15:41] <robbiew> hggdh: I'm going to release note bug 717166, given we won't have it fixed in the ISO...and if you discover a workaround, we can update the bug and release notes
[15:42] <hggdh> robbiew: perfect, thank you. I am updating the bug stating that we are seeing problems, but do not know yet what is causing them
[15:47] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: howdy!! How was PowerNap's testing?
[15:48] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: productive
[15:48] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: howdy :-)
[15:48] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: how much powersavings were seen?
[16:12] <SpamapS> I'm starting on the RAID tests w/ 20110425 .. are there any respins scheduled?
[16:13] <RoyK> hggdh: heh - I have a couple of those at work as well...
[16:13] <RoyK> mostly for openindiana/zfs testing, though
[16:29] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: howdy!!
[16:29] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: quick question about upstart!. I want a job to only start after *all* the interfaces are up. Is this possible?
[16:30] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: or all the interface sin /etc/network/interfaces
[16:31] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: start on started networking will start after all *static* interfaces are up
[16:31] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: so that should achieve what you want
[16:32] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: and likely will be the default for runlevel 2 in 11.10 and later
[16:33] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: cool thanks
[16:37] <SpamapS> hallyn: ping?
[16:55] <amero> is there way to set a limit on amount of cpu usage allowed for any single processes?
[16:58] <RoyK> amero: ulimit
[17:04] <amero> what's this supposed to mean: The maximum amount of cpu time in seconds
[17:04] <RoyK> yes
[17:04] <RoyK> there's no way to limit the percentage of cpu usage
[17:04] <RoyK> but you can set the priority on the pid, of course
[17:05] <RoyK> man renice
[17:06] <amero> oh what does that option do then. it limits how long a process could use a cpu?
[17:06] <RoyK> yes
[17:06] <amero> even it uses 1%, the limit will still kick in?
[17:07] <RoyK> when the cpu time spent reaches the limit
[17:07] <RoyK> see 'top' or 'ps' - it shows you how much cpu time is spent by each process
[17:08] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: hmm.. I may have told you wrong.. it may actually be 'start on stopped networking' .. which I know.. is very confusing.
[17:09] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: uhmmm but why would it be "on stopped"?
[17:09] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: because started will happen as soon as it forks/execs ifup -a ..
[17:10] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: stopped comes after ifup -a has exitted
[17:10] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: because it is a "task"
[17:10] <RoAkSoAx> SpamapS: indeed confusing
[17:10] <SpamapS> RoAkSoAx: yeah I'm just now realizing I've been confused about it up until this point
[17:11] <RoAkSoAx> :/ I'll write the upstart job for keepalived and test
[17:11] <RoyK> amero: the linux process scheduler can't share just a fraction of its time for a process. Some OSes, such as AIX, can virtualise parts of a CPU, but Linux can't
[17:34] <amero> RoyK: looks like my only option now is renice. do we have a renice daemon or something will monitor and auto nice a process?
[17:39] <bastidrazor> how do i get reverse mapping to work correctly? i get things like "Apr 25 12:37:47 servitude sshd[8779]: reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for dynamic-<IP_ADDRESS>.tvscable.com [<IP_ADDRESS>] failed
[17:39] <bastidrazor> - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!"
[17:39] <bastidrazor> when anyone tries to ssh into my server.
[17:41] <anonissimus> airtonix:
[17:42] <anonissimus> dns got edited but now I get broken a broken link error
[17:46] <RoyK> amero: the renice won't stay after a reboot, so rather rewrite the init script to start it with lower priority
[17:50] <SpamapS> what is the thing that puts the system load  /  stats in motd? landscape-client ? It should totally put a "your RAID device X is degraded" message in too
[17:51] <zul> update-motd i think
[17:51] <RoyK> SpamapS: for software or hardware raid?
[17:51] <SpamapS> well ideally any, but specifically the simplest one to solve is software
[17:51] <SpamapS> hmmmm...
[17:51] <SpamapS> mdadm did not start on boot
[17:52]  * RoyK uses icinga (former nagios) for that sort of stuff
[17:52] <RoyK> sends me an sms if something goes wrong
[17:52] <SpamapS> RoyK: I'm not saying its best practices to log in and look for problems
[17:53] <SpamapS> RoyK: monitoring is by far the right way to do this. :)
[17:53] <SpamapS> RoyK: I'm saying.. if we're going to display system load.. we should also include obvious problems.
[17:53] <RoyK> SpamapS: true :)
[17:53]  * SpamapS is a belt and suspenders kind of guy
[18:01] <AphisOne> I've been looking for documentation or a tutorial on common practices on how to handle CVE corrections with Ubuntu Server, but have yet to run across anything.  Any links or suggestions are welcome and needed, please.  Thanks!
[18:07] <pehden> ok this is getting old im not sure what doing it but the server has had to be rebooted in the morning and now its up and running but this cycle is getting old
[19:21] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ping
[19:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: negronjl has some questions about using Cobbler to provision into KVMs
[19:28] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: sure
[19:28] <RoAkSoAx> negronjl: i'm here
[19:29] <negronjl> hi RoAkSoAx
[19:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: can you walk us through deploying a kvm through cobbler?
[19:29] <RoAkSoAx> negronjl: sure
[19:29] <RoAkSoAx> let me get my cobbler server up
[19:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: negronjl is running his cobbler (orchestra) server in a vm too, all in virt-manager
[19:30] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: so you guys want NQA right?
[19:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: sure
[19:31] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ok give me a sec
[19:31] <negronjl> kirkland had to step out for a minute...
[19:32] <negronjl> I have a virtual ( or trying to set up ) where I have a cobbler server.
[19:32] <negronjl> I need that cobbler server to be able to pxe boot other instances.
[19:32] <negronjl> RoAkSoAx:  Any chance of continuing this on Skype?
[19:32] <RoAkSoAx> negronjl: sure, or mumble
[20:11] <smoser> jamespage, still around?
[20:38] <Chromag9> does anyone have any experience on running Ubuntu server on Amazon EC2?
[20:43] <hallyn> Chromag9: lots of ppl here do it.  if you have questions ask away
[20:49] <Chromag9> I was interested in looking into it via their AWS Free Usage Tier
[20:50] <Chromag9> it looks like there was some question, initially, about it actually being "free" because the official Ubunti AMI's were all 15gb, which is over the free 10gb EBS emoung
[20:50] <Chromag9> *amount
[20:51] <SpamapS> Chromag9: I believe they were dropped to 8GB to work w/ that
[20:52] <SpamapS> smoser: ^^
[20:52] <Chromag9> after poking around it looks like they (being Canonical) changes the official AMI's to be 8GB?  can someone confirm this?  for example: US-East-AMI ami-688c7801
[20:52] <Chromag9> ahh, well that would be a confirmation, thanks!
[20:53] <Chromag9> looks like I can safely check it out at no charge to see whether I want to use it
[20:53] <smoser> Chromag9, ami-688c7801 is not an ebs root image
[20:53] <smoser> so it will not be free
[20:53] <smoser> pick from the list at http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/release-20101225/
[20:53] <smoser> and use an 'ebs' one. those will have 8G root filesystems.
[20:54] <Chromag9> wait, I clicked on an ebs one in the list to copy the AMI number
[20:54] <smoser> what list ?
[20:54] <smoser> that is most definitely not ebs
[20:54] <Chromag9> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/release/
[20:55] <smoser> yeah... those links are bad :-(
[20:55] <Chromag9> ahh
[20:55] <Chromag9> ami-cef405a7
[20:56] <Chromag9> that's the one I was looking at - for whatever reason the link goes to the wrong page
[20:56] <smoser> https://forums.aws.amazon.com/message.jspa?messageID=210521
[20:56] <smoser> Chromag9, ^ is why the page you see when you click it is out of date.
[20:56] <smoser> we're not able to update it any more.
[20:56] <smoser> amazon basically abandoned that stuff.
[20:56] <smoser> i should probably make the index pages not link there.
[20:57] <smoser> but, ack, that what you do want is
[20:57] <smoser> ami-cef405a7
[20:57] <smoser> us-east-1 ami-cef405a7 canonical ebs/ubuntu-maverick-10.10-amd64-server-20101225
[20:57] <Chromag9> yep, that's the one I was looking at
[20:57] <smoser> Chromag9, you might want to try natty though
[20:57] <Chromag9> yeah
[20:57] <smoser> if you're not going to pick LTS (lucid), then natty will release in 3 days.
[20:58] <Chromag9> ahh natty is being released in 3 days?
[20:58] <smoser> for playing, i'd suggest grabbing a natty daily ami.
[20:58] <smoser> yes, natty will arrive thursday
[20:59] <smoser> if you grab today's ami's http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110425/ it will be virtually inditinguishable
[20:59] <SpamapS> and then you wont have to worry about chulu eating yee
[20:59] <smoser> exactly
[20:59] <Chromag9> can I freely drop the daily ami instance and create a new one when the final is released thursday?
[20:59] <Chromag9> or will that cost me?
[21:00] <smoser> Chromag9, you can... you may end up getting charged for 1 hour, if you stopped and started in the same hour
[21:00] <smoser> i'm not sure how their charging works exactly
[21:00] <smoser> but that would be $0.02
[21:01] <Chromag9> haha me either - I really should make sure I understand it - but a few cents here and there is no big deal
[21:01] <smoser> so i'd buy you a stick of gum if we ever meet and you're charged that.
[21:01] <Chromag9> I'm just paranoid that I'll do something wrong and next thing ya know they're billing me $500
[21:01] <smoser> well, you would actually be hard pressed to run up a bill over $100 in a month if you use a t1.micro size
[21:01] <Chromag9> sweet!  well at least I'll get a piece of gum out of the deal
[21:02] <smoser> ie, if you did something like 'ssh host cat /dev/zero'
[21:02] <smoser> you might see some large network charges
[21:02] <smoser> but other than that...
[21:02] <Chromag9> yeah I'm not planning on doing that :)
[21:04] <smoser> if you pick a natty daily and apt-get dist-upgrade and reboot, its the same as current
[21:04] <smoser> Chromag9,
[21:04] <Chromag9> smoser: oh Thursday when the final version comes out?
[21:04] <Chromag9> *on
[21:05] <smoser> yes.
[21:05] <Chromag9> I didn't think of that - I'm really behind on upgrades
[21:05] <Chromag9> I have two standalone Ubuntu server boxes at work right now, both running 10.04
[21:05] <Chromag9> updates, I should say
[21:06] <robbiew> SpamapS: ping
[21:09] <SpamapS> robbiew: pong
[21:10] <robbiew> SpamapS: hey hey :)
[23:28] <hggdh> hallyn: why would a amd64 image fail with "error : qemudWaitForMonitor:1886 : internal error process exited while connecting to monitor: qemu: at most 2047 MB RAM can be simulated"?
[23:29] <hallyn> hggdh: is this non-accelerated i386 maybe?
[23:29] <hallyn> hggdh: or maybe you were just out of ram?
[23:30] <hggdh> hallyn: bloody hell :-(
[23:30] <hallyn> hggdh: it used to be non-kvm qemu didn't support ram > 4G.  2047 sounds weird
[23:30] <hggdh> I have been looking for a red herring since the morning... trying to run a 64-bit image on i386 :-(
[23:31] <hallyn> doh
[23:31] <hallyn> is that what this is?
[23:31] <hggdh> hallyn: yes, I remember this error on i386. I was swearing I was running on a 64 host
[23:31] <hallyn> might be worth a bug about bad error reporting
[23:31] <hggdh> time to get a double shot of wisky
[23:31] <hggdh> yeah
[23:32] <hallyn> sounds tasty
[23:32] <hggdh> :-) at least some good news today, I *know* where I got it wrong
[23:33] <hggdh> anyway, lost by one, lost by one thousand. I will try a i386 image just for spite


[00:08] <Scary_Guy> My friend Kylo_Wen 's company is looking for a Java / .net dev if anyone is looking
[00:11] <Zimdale> Recruiting devs is getting cut throat
[00:11] <cmaloney> yeah, no kidding
[13:27] <Zimdale> Morning
[14:13] <rick_h__> morning
[14:22] <cmaloney> morning and all that.
[14:26] <Scary_Guy> hi
[14:55] <cmaloney> Howdy
[14:57] <Scary_Guy> how was the meeting?  I was tired and didn't want to drive in crap again
[15:04] <cmaloney> It was pretty good. Lots to chew on about high performance computing
[15:04] <Zimdale> When's the next one?
[15:05] <cmaloney> March 8th
[15:05] <Zimdale> I'll try to make it to that one
[15:05] <cmaloney> http://www.mug.org/?page=CiviCRM&q=civicrm%2Fevent%2Finfo&reset=1&id=52
[15:05] <Zimdale> ended up staying late working yesterday and missed it
[15:09] <cmaloney> Bummer.
[15:09] <cmaloney> I know about the staying late at work thing though. :(
[15:10] <Zimdale> too much docker containers!
[15:10] <cmaloney> heh


[01:17] <kkremitzki> Hi, I've rebooted my desktop computer, and now it looks like I'm landing into SDDM with nothing but a white screen (although my mouse does work), I'm able to SSH in to troubleshoot the issue but I'm not sure where to begin as I just switched to Kubuntu from a GNOME desktop recently
[01:33] <Mateus> hello
[01:33] <Mateus> I can not install programs on the pc because I need a password
[01:37] <qst> kkremitzki, did you try installing a different DM?
[01:38] <kkremitzki> This was originally a plain Ubuntu 17.10 machine which I did `sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop` on, which had been working alright, so I do still have gdm3 available if that's what you mean, and switching to that does boot to gdm as expected
[01:39] <kkremitzki> However I can't actually login there either with the Plasma or Ubuntu on Xorg session
[01:46] <qst> try using the old standard gdm
[01:46] <qst> the 1
[01:47] <qst> you might have to sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm to stop the old process
[01:47] <qst> can't you ssh in?
[01:48] <qst> it's all done on the CL
[01:48] <qst> I'm getting some PHO, I'll be back later.
 Anyone here running 17.10 with backport AND do you autohide your panel?
 On one of 3 systems upgrade to 5.12 (all 3 have hidden panels on the left edge of screen) my panel unhides twice when mouse is moved to left screen edge.  The other 2 systems behave normally.
 If I move the panel to any other edge, no double bounce.  If add a new panel to the left edge, double bounce.
[07:09] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:34] <gavinjb> hello
[08:37] <lordievader> 👋
[08:45] <gavinjb> I am liking Kubuntu 17.10 so far
[08:45] <lordievader> 😁
[10:15] <mozammel>  hi, I'm facing error code (1) while install mysql-server-5.7 , mysql-server
[10:15] <mozammel> my system is kubuntu 17.10
[10:18] <lordievader> Could you pastebin the full error?
[10:18] <lordievader> !pastebin
[12:54] <epipercepi> is there a way to get xapian to not update itself automatically?
[12:54] <epipercepi> ..it seems to want to do this periodically, and my box is hella old and it whines when it does it. like the fan gets *loud*
[12:55] <Unit193> There's a cronjob, but actually you can modify that job to only update, not re-generate.
[12:56] <Unit193> /etc/cron.weekly/apt-xapian-index is the entry.
[12:57] <epipercepi> besides which i don't even care anymore; this box doesn't need updates it needs to be replaced and i've been meaning to switch it out and retire it.. but until then?
[12:57] <epipercepi> ahh ok thanks
[12:58] <Unit193> My recommendation is adding '--update' on the end of the command.
[12:59] <epipercepi> i see the file but i can't cat it it seems
[12:59] <epipercepi> hanuman% cat apt-xap
[12:59] <epipercepi> /bin/zsh:9: _main_complete: function definition file not found
[12:59] <epipercepi> hanuman% cat apt-xapian-index | less
[12:59] <epipercepi> zsh: Input/output error: less
[13:00] <epipercepi> i tried to tab-complete the filename and it didn't work (which may just be because this box is messing up) and then i couldn't use less either.. so not sure
[13:00] <epipercepi> heh i did it without less and it worked lol
[13:01] <Unit193> 0_o
[13:01] <epipercepi> so like, i don't get where to add --update. like, within that file, or like, in anacrontab?
[13:01] <Unit193> See '--quiet'?
[13:01] <epipercepi> ah
[13:02] <epipercepi> thanks
[13:02] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[13:02] <epipercepi> lol sudo isn't working. i should reboot
[13:03] <epipercepi> but i'm too lazy right now
[13:03] <Unit193> This sounds like there's greater issues than xapian.
[13:03] <epipercepi> sure, the hard drive's slowly failing
[13:03] <epipercepi> and there may be other issues
[13:03] <epipercepi> this box was made in the 90s :)
[13:10] <epipercepi> wait what
[13:10] <epipercepi> the fuck is my phone doing on irc
[13:10] <pan> .
[13:10] <epipercepi> oh my bad you're a totally different dude
[13:10] <epipercepi> lol that's the nick i use for my phone (it's actually just my phone's name)
[13:11] <epipercepi> ..sorry, keep on keepin' on. you have as much claim to the nick as i do
[13:51] <rabia> ee
[13:51] <rabia> someone writes me
[13:58] <lordievader> Are you looking for:
[13:58] <lordievader> !test
[13:59] <lordievader> Hmm, that factoid used to link to some test channel.
[14:07] <mparillo> lordievader: I thought that worked in -devel for a call to testers
[14:08] <lordievader> Oh, maybe I am confusing factoids.
[14:23] <mparillo> I would be happy to test that factoid in the -devel channel, but that might annoy a dozen people, so maybe we can come up with something worth testing. I do not recall seeing it when Plasma 5.12 was working its way to the backports
[14:34] <rabia> what is factoid?
[14:35] <mr-rich> rabia: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/factoid
[15:25] <mozammel> Hi, I'm trykng to install openMAINT, there is lot of configuration need to do about tomcat, JODBC, PostgreSQLD etc, can anyone help me out ?
[16:48] <feridot> When reporting a bug on launchpad should the reporter mark the bug as 'New' after adding the requested information? (because it's on 'incomplete' now)
[18:12] <Bodzioslaw> hi. I have a question about konsole. How I can set notifications to use visible bell for example when I've received message on IRC?
[18:13] <Bodzioslaw> I used "mark taskbar entry" option but it deoesn't seem to work as indented
[18:47] <rabia_> hi
[18:48] <rabia_> i can not log in to another channels
[18:48] <rabia_> do you know why?
[18:48] <rabia_> i hot 404 error
[18:48] <rabia_> got*
[18:48] <feridot> try /join #channelnamegoeshere
[18:48] <feridot> for example /join #ubuntu
[20:43] <wubuntu> hello
[20:43] <wubuntu> can someone point me out a tutorial for upgrading from 17.04 to 17.10 ?
[20:45] <wubuntu> please ?
[20:49] <acheronuk> wubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades]
[20:49] <acheronuk> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[23:16] <RYDeN> Hello I've a question, is it possible to have the last kde apps versions on kubuntu 17.10?
[23:16] <RYDeN> for example dolphin 17.10 instead of 17.04?


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[01:38] <ubptgbot> willy_rumster was added by: willy_rumster
 @willy_rumster, Welcome, Willy! Check out ubports.com/telegram-welcome to get you started! If you have any questions, feel free to ask here or in our Welcome & Install channel (link on the webpage above)!
 @JPMMPJ, In the end it did not work out. The download of the Ubuntu Rom worked just fine as mentionned in your linked. But as a result, my tablet was completly black all the time. I had to reinstall the Android Rom (It worked).
 @UniversalSuperBox, In the end it did not work out. The download of the Ubuntu Rom worked just fine as mentionned in your linked. But as a result, my tablet was completly black all the time. I had to reinstall the Android Rom (It worked).
 Thank you anyway Dalton Durst
 @JPMMPJ, It wasn't a Fairphone?
 My OnePlus One phone worked just fine Lionelb
 My tablet BQ Aquaris M10 FHD Android version did not work
 I have been told that to make my tablet work with UBports Ubuntu installer, I have to get a BQ Aquaris M10 FHD Ubuntu Eddition...
 Thank you for asking Lionelb !
 (So no it wasn't a Fairphone)
 @JPMMPJ, Yes, you have to go via Canonical  UT
 Thank you for this confirmation Lionelb !
 I will do that ! Am gonna get the same tablet Canonical UT edition
 (I already sent back my Android tablet version to the seller for a refund... They understood that I want the UT edition... Nice...)
 @JPMMPJ, Was not really necessary but certainly that makes your task easier
 @Stereofont, I must confess that I already spent a lot of time trying to make it work... So yes I admit I chose the easiest way ... ☺
[10:25] <ubptgbot> Ghost was added by: Ghost
 @Ghost, Hi Ghost, welcome. Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 Pretty sure I've seen at least one ghost appear here before... Perhaps this is phantom?
 Ghosts come and go
 Good point
 lg nexus 5
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Ap0WGY2W.webp
 lol
[13:52] <ubptgbot> Evan He was added by: Evan He
 [Edit] Welcome Evan  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
 Welcome Evan  !!! Check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started.
[13:57] <ubptgbot> <Evan He> Thanks. @Bolly
[13:57] <ubptgbot> <Evan He> :)
[14:09] <ubptgbot> <Evan He> Trying to install Ubuntu Touch on my Nexus 5 with UBports installer on a Windows 10 Pro (latest update) computer. The software wouldn't recognize my Nexus 5 (in its bootloader), and I am stuck at the "Please reboot to bootloader" screen. I have installed the Universal ADB driver, but the software always prop with "ADB drivers needed
[14:09] <ubptgbot> " on launch. Any advice?
[14:10] <ubptgbot> <Evan He> (Photo, 1180x890) https://irc.ubports.com/8FUqoDDo.png
 @Evan He, Come to https://t.me/WelcomePlus and we'll try to help you there
 That link is for the UB Welcome & Install group
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <Evan He> Thanks. :)
[14:37] <ubptgbot> Aukena was added by: Aukena
 @Aukena, Hi Christian, you can read https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to learn about UBports
 3T?
 12A?
 checkmate
 On a related note http://ubuntu-touch.io/devices
 @Bolly, Ubfr team Head. I command you to invite this Bolly person in ;)
 @Flohack, My SIII has a broken LCD. I've heard they're a PITA to fix. … Honestly, it might cost less to buy a used S III/Note II than a display.
[17:05] <_Tag> hi dudes
[17:06] <_Tag> I just bougt a nexus 5 from a friend in order to install ubports
[17:06] <_Tag> right now i have installed 15.04 but I would love to try 16.04, but when I try to install it using the snap it just fails
[17:07] <_Tag> adb push error, thats the error
[17:07] <_Tag> I installed 15.04 using magic... whatever
[17:08] <_Tag> a script, in a mint 17, but from home, in an ubuntu 17.10 i can't, due phablet-tools not available
 at what screen is the phone when you get the error?
 not sure why phablet-tools would be needed
[17:10] <_Tag> mmm dohbee is me?
 You're using magic-device-tool?
 @_Tag, no i am not you :)
[17:11] <_Tag> oh, man, i thought it was ubptgbot who whas answering
[17:11] <_Tag> anyway, when it starts flashing, i get that error
 MDT is dropping support for Ubuntu Touch. You might have better luck with the installer snap or appimage. http://ubuntu-touch.io/install
[17:12] <_Tag> that's what i was trying, using that installer
[17:12] <_Tag> the orange one with the cute robot
 If nothing else, try running the appimage with sudo. Usually does the trick.
 Udev rules and adb craziness. Still quite a few things to work out.
[17:14] <_Tag> trying with sudo
[17:14] <_Tag> it's pushing
[17:14] <_Tag> and... done
[17:14] <_Tag>  man, this one was easy :)
 Great!
[17:15] <_Tag> let's see :) I really want to use it as my primary phone
[17:15] <_Tag> even when i know perhaps going for 16.04 is not the best idea :)
 Ideally we go without needing root access... Many distributions don't give us that luxury
 It almost 90% is not...
[17:16] <_Tag> do you mean i shout stick in 15?
 btw, you could just run `system-image-cli -vvvv --switch ubports-touch/16.04/devel` directly on the phone over adb/ssh
 if you want a daily phone with it, yes
[17:17] <_Tag> ah
[17:17] <_Tag> no prob, is there a way of using whatsapp? i tried LinqM but it failed
[17:17] <_Tag> old protocol it said
[17:17] <_Tag> I use both, telegram and whatsapp
 not yet, as whatsapp is proprietary and not available for general linux usage. if/when anbox support gets enabled on that device, it should be usable in anbox though
[17:19] <_Tag> well, it's ok :)
[17:43] <_Tag> re
[17:43] <_Tag> man, i'm trying to install now anbox
[17:43] <_Tag> but i can't figure out the partition name
[17:43] <_Tag> with bootimg it says "partition table doesn't exist"
 anbox is not supported on nexus 5 yet
[17:44] <_Tag> so I assume bootimg is not a valid partition table :)
[17:44] <_Tag> aaaah
 so you can't install it
[17:44] <_Tag> that's a good reason for not working
 (Sticker, 512x468) https://irc.ubports.com/T1WZEE2T.webp
[17:57] <_Tag> leaving
[17:57] <_Tag> thank you very much :)
[17:57] <_Tag> and cu soon
 cheers
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/js4WC00D.png
 I missed this
 Comfy
 Looks cоmfy
 @willy_rumster, I like your username
 i was going to say the same thing.  2018 award for Most Funky TG Username goes to.... whatever this says
 @PhoenixLandPirate, it's a https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combining_Diacritical_Marks … i glad to see your likes)
 @willy_rumster, wow, they're cool! I think I'm going tho change my username soon... 😁
[19:40] <ubptgbot> CrayCrayCobra was added by: CrayCrayCobra
 Hello,
 Hello,  … I try to install Ubutu touch on a Oneplus One and I get this message:
 (Photo, 592x314) https://irc.ubports.com/CTPlTKC4.png
 @CrayCrayCobra, Hi BEnjAMIN, check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome to get you started
 Newcomers Room
 there you might find help
 Thanx
[19:51] <jaydemir> is there an iso for ubuntu touch on x86 yet?
[19:52] <jaydemir> I found some targz files but I cant boot into it. I've copied the files onto a drive and also tried rolling them into an iso and flashing to a USB that way
 no, there's no iso for ubuntu with unity8 yet
 the rootfs tarball is not a bootable system. it doesn't contain bootloader or kernel.
[19:53] <jaydemir> so there's no way I can get ubuntu touch on my x86 tablet?
 no. you can install ubuntu 16.04, and then install the ubports unity8 on top of it
[19:55] <jaydemir> whats the package called?
[19:56] <jaydemir> and would I change to that like I would any other DE from the login screen?
 it's not a package in ubuntu archives. you have to follow the "try ubports unity8 on ubuntu 16.04" instructions to install it
[19:56] <jaydemir> got you
 yes, unity8 is just another shell
[19:57] <jaydemir> fair enough. Still itching to try it but I dont have a nexus device. The LG G2 is basically a nexus 5 on steroids so I'll give that a shot
 lg g2?
 it is not a currently supported device
[20:01] <jaydemir> all good
[20:01] <jaydemir> tricked the installer into doing a flash
[20:01] <jaydemir> I have another G2 if anything
 Hi folks, I've just learned that other models have tethering enabled (i.e. "access point" option). But my N4 with 15.04 doesn't... Any reason for that?
 it was disabled on mako explicitly, as it was causing some problems. nobody ever resolved the issues. i don't recall what the issues were specifically
 as in it was disabled on mako explicitly, back in the canonical days
 Oh... I always thought no UT had it
 IS there any way to re-enable it?
 find the code that disables it, and make a patch to change it
 Thanks, will check
[20:41] <jaydemir> Is it hard to put Ubuntu touch on an unsupported device?
 assuming all the underlying requirements are met, it's generally more tedious than difficult
[20:45] <jaydemir> Ah. There a list of these requirements?
 i think the porting guide states all the requirements
 (i do not recall the url for it, but it's somehere on ubports.com)
[20:46] <jaydemir> Got you.
 jaydemir see this https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html


[00:12] <n00blet> Hi, ubuntu is not recognizing the ethernet cable I am using for internet
[00:12] <n00blet> wifi works fine
[00:13] <n00blet> the cable works fine when i boot into windows on the same hardware
[00:13] <n00blet> any idea why this is happening/how to fix it?
[00:16] <sarnold> n00blet: does replacing the cable make the nic work?
[00:17] <n00blet> Not sure what nic is but swapping the cable doesn't fix it
[00:18] <sarnold> nic == network interface card
[00:20] <sarnold> n00blet: is this a 'standard desktop' sort of system? if so, you're probably using network manager; look around that for some connection information or edit connection things, and see if your ethernet card is enabled, if it's allowed to be used, if it has correct settings, etc
[00:21] <Swift110-mobile> sup folks
[00:27] <Swift110-mobile> sup Mathisen
[00:27] <Swift110-mobile> sup matsaman
[00:29] <matsaman> howdy
[00:35] <n00blet> sarnold i've poked around and lshw shows the ethernet status is UNCLAIMED
[00:36] <sarnold> n00blet: oh, wow, I think that means there's no driver loaded for it. I wonder if it's supported by linux at all
[00:43] <n00blet> Google is suggesting that I will need to upgrade my kernel for driver support
[00:44] <n00blet> Going to give that a shot. ty for your help
[00:44] <sarnold> oh that's promising; it's not always good news
[00:44] <sarnold> if you're on an LTS release, selecting the 'hwe' kernels may do the trick
[00:45] <sarnold> those are newer than the 'release' kernel, they're offered specifically for more hardware support :)
[00:46] <n00blet> Oh wow, they're already up to 5.14, i'm on 5.8
[00:53] <oerheks> !hwe
[01:28] <Macer> is there a way to slow down 2 finger scrolling on a synaptic trackpad?
[01:28] <Macer> i'm using wayland
[01:29] <sarnold> Macer: I can't promise there is, but if there is I expect you can get there using the xinput tool; try xinput list to get a list of devices..
[01:30] <sarnold> Macer: then xinput list-props "device name here"  to get a list of properties..
[01:30] <sarnold> Macer: I use these lines to set some settings on my touchpad:
[01:30] <sarnold> xinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Accel Speed" 1
[01:30] <sarnold> xinput set-prop "Synaptics TM3289-021" "libinput Tapping Enabled" 1
[01:35] <Macer> hm
[01:35] <Macer>     ↳ Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad	id=10	[slave  keyboard (3)]
[01:35] <Macer> doesn't seem like it's using any type of synaptic driver
[01:36] <Macer> not sure if wayland would work with xinput
[01:36] <sarnold> hmm that's possible
[01:36] <sarnold> I figured it was a way to configure libinput, but don't know for sure that it'd work for configuring libunput in wayland
[02:03] <Macer> sarnold: ah ok. it does look like xinput works
[02:03] <Macer> so there is that
[02:03] <Macer> kind of weird. i honestly do not understand wayland vs xorg
[02:03] <sarnold> Macer: yay :)
[02:03] <Macer> is wayland something different or is it something that just disposed of some of the unnecessary xorg things?
[02:04] <sarnold> Macer: were you able to find any properties for your touchpad thing that works?
[02:04] <Macer> i don't really understand a decent way to make this permanent now
[02:04] <Macer> yes
[02:04] <sarnold> double yay :)
[02:04] <Macer> xinput --set-prop 11 'Synaptics Scrolling Distance' 700 700
[02:04] <Macer> that worked
[02:04] <sarnold> re: permanent, I'm not sure :( what compositor are you using? it probably has an 'autorun' feature of some sort
[02:04] <Macer> it isn't shooting like 30 pages with 1" of trackpad haha
[02:04] <sarnold> sweet
[02:04] <Macer> i'm using whatever ubuntu uses nowadays
[02:07] <onelegend> sarnold: yoooo
[02:07] <sarnold> hey onelegend
[02:07] <sarnold> Macer: I'm finding a lot of bad advice, but the one I've liked so far was to use systemd user service files
[02:07] <sarnold> Macer: systemd user service files doesn't feel right either, but the others so far look worse :)
[02:08] <Macer> well i mean usually this would be some sort of xinitrc thing
[02:10] <sarnold> yeah, I stuffed my lines in ~/.xsessionrc :) piece of cake... dunno wayland. gnome's not big on easy things, they usually have .desktop files and autorun/ directories and so on
[02:11] <Macer> yah. i'm trying to figure out where to put it. at least i know the command that fixes it
[02:11] <Macer> it was driving me insane heh
[02:12] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'm looking for a tool that will let me send text files to a pastebin-like service. I've got pastebinit installed, but can't get it to work.
[02:12] <bobdobbs> I can't seem to find a similar tool in the default repos. But I might have missed one (or all of them)
[02:12] <sarnold> bobdobbs: sadly the recent changes to the ubuntu pastebin site have made it far less useful
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: pastebinit can send to other sites, and I think a few of them still work with it, but it's not great
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: I've switched to using | nc termbin.com 9999    -- probably I should make a shell alias for it but I haven't done that yet
[02:13] <bobdobbs> sarnold: I've been trying and failing to get pastebinit to work with other sites, I'm afriad
[02:13] <bobdobbs> netcat?
[02:13] <sarnold> bobdobbs: dang ;(
[02:13] <sarnold> yeah
[02:13] <sarnold> netcat's a fantastic little thing
[02:13] <bobdobbs> huh. neat tricj
[02:14] <bobdobbs> so what is a typical command? cat the file and output it to nc?
[02:14] <bobdobbs> pipe it, I mean
[02:15] <bobdobbs> sarnold: hey! that works!
[02:15] <bobdobbs> sarnold: thanks!
[02:15] <oerheks> cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[02:15] <sarnold> bobdobbs: you can also do standard shell things like nc termbin.com 9999 < /tmp/whatever   to read the file that way
[02:53] <nikolam> I am really dissatisfied how Linux in general and Ubuntu handles missing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot.
[02:54] <nikolam> I changed non-system drive and whole boot proces halted for 2X 3 minutes and never normally boots, just hangs there , if there is no particular volume od a drive available on boot. It is really ridiculous how bad it looks like and how lousy impression that leaves..
[02:55] <nikolam> And it never get back to normal, until I realized I need to edit /and comment out some volumes, before I exchange drives.. and BEFORE I reboot..
[03:08] <oerheks> missing non-system volumes present on /etc/fstab on boot... explain?
[03:11] <sarnold> nikolam: maybe you want to add "nofail do not report errors for this device if it does not exist." to your devices that you'll change -- see the fstab(5) manpage for more options
[04:26] <n00blet> I switched to a newer kernel and my wired connection works now. Thanks to whoever was helping me earlier (using webchat so no history lol)
[04:27] <oerheks> have fun, n00blet
[05:08] <Swift110-mobile> hey oerheks
[05:41] <Erroneous> what the command to instal json on ubuntu root
[05:43] <alkisg> Erroneous: json is a file format, not a program. What do you mean?
[05:44] <Erroneous> so how can i add them on
[05:45] <Erroneous> because my eggdrop need json and http
[05:45] <Erroneous> json and http not found on my shell
[05:48] <Mathisen> Erroneous, what you need is to load http.tcl before any plugin that needs it
[05:48] <Erroneous> ah so this is on the eggdrop side? not root?
[05:49] <Mathisen> yep
[05:49] <Erroneous> i need both http and json
[05:49] <Erroneous> any idea how to run it bro. cant find in goodle
[05:49] <Mathisen> and you should take a look at limnoria bot instead of an eggdrop. a more modern version for a irc bot and python based with same plugins you find for your outaded eggdrop
[05:50] <Mathisen> read the docs
[05:54] <Erroneous> Mathisen do you mean there is new bot called limnoria ?
[05:54] <Erroneous> this is the latest?
[05:57] <Mathisen> yes there is a bot called limnoria > https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria
[05:58] <Erroneous> i am noob from eggdrop
[05:58] <Erroneous> so i will start using limnoria is it easiest thatn eggies?
[05:58] <Mathisen> yes
[05:59] <Erroneous> https://limnoria.net/ <<-there wbsite dont even work bro...
[06:04] <alkisg> Erroneous: See https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria; you may also join #limnoria, their irc channel
[06:04] <alkisg> They may have temporary hosting issues
[06:04] <alkisg> It's still actively maintained, unlike eggdrop
[06:06] <Erroneous> ok good
[06:06] <Erroneous> i need to see website so i can read manual instructions
[06:07] <Erroneous> alkisg do you have bot in lmnoria?
[06:07] <alkisg> Erroneous: yes, in the #ltsp channel, it's called ltspbot
[07:14] <omega_doom> After recent update left ctrl on my usb keyboard stopped working. What can i do to fix it?
[07:15] <omega_doom> right ctrl is working and laptop keys are working fine.
[07:37] <ducasse> Erroneous: you can also find the docs here - https://limnoria-doc.readthedocs.io/_/downloads/en/latest/pdf/
[09:17] <jpic> hi all, i'm investigating a server which seems to sometimes change its FQDN to "hostname.unassigned-domain" instead of its right FQDN. I have found in /var/log/installer/cdebconf/questions.dat that Name: netcfg/get_domain got Value: unassigned-domain, instead of the right value they have on their other servers, so that seems to be the mistake. However, I know completely fail to find where netcfg/get_domain
[09:17] <jpic> is used, debconf-get-selections does not show this key unless --installer is passed which makes it look into /var/log/installer/cdebconf.
[09:18] <jpic> Do you have any idea what leftover could still be on the system based on that? would the installer selections ever be used again ? ie. when configuring a package?
[09:31] <croraf> Can someone help me how to install old version of firefox. The version can be found here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/89.0b9/linux-x86_64/en-US/
[09:32] <Woet> croraf: which issues are you running into?
[09:32] <croraf> I've extracted this .tar.bz2 and dont know what to do next
[09:32] <croraf> let me screenshot
[09:33] <croraf> https://pasteboard.co/WXfv3J9mdcYS.png Woet
[09:34] <Woet> did you try running firefox or firefox-bin?
[09:37] <croraf> Woet great, it just works, by using firefox
[09:37] <Woet> :)
[09:37] <croraf> But is this like the full installation?
[09:41] <Woet> pretty sure those are the files you'd usually find in your instlal dir, yes
[10:09] <simernes> I have a virtual machine that I ssh into, and for some reason recently I became unable to enter characters like "æøå" when I am logged into its terminal. I have another ubuntu vm that in theory should be identical, where I don't have the problem. Any way to troubleshoot?
[10:09] <croraf> Woet, just to say it works as expected. Ty.
[10:18] <gurki> simernes: i suppose its not as identical as you thought it was. my approach would be to determine what exactly is set up differently :D
[10:18] <gurki> (random guess: some locale issues)
[10:28] <matkor> Hi! What is distro way of saving ipvsadm  rules  so they are restored during boot in Ubuntu? TIA
[10:57] <BinarySavior> hi, nvidia driver update broke my display, how can I revert to previous version?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: sudp apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau and then install another nvidia version after
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> *sudo
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> see also:
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> if your card gets a black screen at boot
[11:00] <BinarySavior> it's been working fine on 21.04 for a couple months now
[11:00] <BinarySavior> yesterday i did sudo apt upgrade and it had an error on nvidia
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: are you on xorg or wayland?
[11:02] <BinarySavior> i believe i'm on xorg
[11:02] <BinarySavior> alt+f2 brings up the command prompt
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> devs are working on the 470 nvidia version for wayland i saw recently
[11:04] <BinarySavior> i just did another upgrade, it appears that 470 installed correctly this time
[11:04] <BinarySavior> gonna reboot and see
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> ok good luck!
[11:06] <BinarySavior> okay yep it's working now
[11:06] <BinarySavior> weird i wonder what the difference between yesterday and today was
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> BinarySavior: check your dpkg logs to see
[11:11] <BinarySavior> it doesn't say there was an error, but it does say it removed linix-signatures-nvidia-x.xx.x
[11:11] <BinarySavior> and then it left "half-configured" linux-objects-nvidia-470.xx.x
[11:30] <wwwi> hello, I created a shared folder in Ubuntu 20 and I want to access it in Windows 10
[11:31] <wwwi> but when I click on the folder from Windows, I get a pop up that asks for my credentials, a username and a password
[11:31] <wwwi> what do I enter?
[11:32] <thyriaen> wwwi have you tried a username & password of your ubuntu machine ?
[11:55] <wwwi> thyriaen, username of my ubuntu machine will be username@ubuntu-pc-name?
[11:56] <thyriaen> depends on how the windows interface will interpret it
[11:56] <thyriaen> it might add the @ itself
[11:56] <thyriaen> which i would assume
[11:57] <wwwi> thyriaen, I tried username then password of my ubuntu pc with @ubuntupcname after username, but it doesn't work
[11:57] <thyriaen> wwwi, then i don't know, sorry
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, I also tried username and password without the ubuntu pc name, and it doesn't work
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, thanks for your effort
[11:58] <wwwi> thyriaen, np
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:23] <wwwi> hi BluesKaj
[12:23] <BluesKaj> hi wwwi
[13:59] <williamo> I have a bunch of Ubuntu 20.04 hosts that no longer boot after updating to 5.4.0-81 kernel. booting stops around the end of kernel init, right before initrd takes over. it feels like devices are timing out
[14:00] <williamo> only commonality I can find is that this only happens when there is a mix of disks that have been encrypted on the VM side
[14:01] <williamo> sorry, encryption is handled by the host
[14:03] <williamo> machines still boot correctly if I force 5.4.0-80.
[14:03] <williamo> 5.4.0-84 appears to be failing too
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> williamo: saw a few of these passby in our bugs announce; bug #1943103
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> williamo: see if this is your issue please
[14:11] <williamo> lotuspsychje, these are servers, most graphical intensive thing they are doing is a console
[14:12] <williamo> if I decrypt the disks, I can boot with -81 and -84
[14:13] <williamo> but the disks have data which require encryption, so that isn't a solution
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> ah perhaps a case for #ubuntu-server then williamo
[14:43] <constxd> what do i do https://termbin.com/0pc2m
[14:44] <bencc1> can I count on /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt to always be available on ubuntu server?
[14:45] <coz_> constxd, which version of Ubuntu?
[14:45] <constxd> 20.04
[14:46] <coz_> constxd, and you are upgrading with sudo apt upgrade?
[14:46] <constxd> yes
[14:46] <coz_> constxd, did you try    sudo apt upgrade --fix-broken
[14:47] <constxd> just tried it now, doesn't work
[14:47] <constxd> same output
[14:47] <coz_> hmmm
[14:51] <ioria> constxd, apt-cache policy libtss2-esys-3.0.2-0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:53] <Joel> anyone aware of repos for 20.04 which support plasma 5.19 or greater?
[14:53] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/zwz5
[14:54] <ioria> constxd, you said you are on 20.04 ... ?
[14:54] <constxd> i thought i was
[14:55] <constxd> 21.04 oops
[14:56] <ioria> constxd, dpkg -l | grep libtss2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:56] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/ql9j
[14:57] <ioria> constxd, the pkgs seems to be correctly installed
[14:58] <constxd> so what do i do?
[15:00] <ioria> constxd, apt -s full-upgrade  | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:01] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/o5zj
[15:02] <ioria> constxd, i think you need to upgrade your system
[15:03] <constxd> did i fuck something up
[15:04] <ioria> constxd, i don't know exacly ... why are you using those repos ? i mean mirrors.kernel.org... not sure are officials
[15:04] <constxd> i can't remember, i think it was to get gcc-11 before it was available from main repos or something
[15:07] <ioria> constxd,  apt-cache policy  libtss2-esys0    | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:08] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/sy36
[15:09] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/issue  you can paste here
[15:09] <simernes> gurki: yeah LOL. Thanks I'll try
[15:09] <constxd> Ubuntu 21.04 \n \l
[15:09] <constxd> ioria:
[15:10] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc trmbin.com 9999
[15:10] <tw-granddial> Hey, I've got Ubuntu-Server 20.04 running and I've uninstalled netplan.io in order to just use systemd-networkd, yet it's not obeying my configuration in /etc/systemd/networkd. I've enabled, started, and restarted the systemd-networkd service, is there something I missed?
[15:10] <ioria> constxd,  cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:10] <oerheks> ioria, +1, just update would do
[15:10] <oerheks> *full-upgrade
[15:10] <ioria> he has a mix of repositories
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> Joel: maybe the #kde or #kubuntu guys might know that1
[15:11] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/yxmc
[15:11] <ioria> constxd,  you have a mix of repositories ... not good
[15:11] <constxd> is it salvageable
[15:13] <simernes> gurki: yeah, my locale LANG was blank for whatever reason, and everything else was just POSIX
[15:13] <ioria> constxd,  apt list --installed  | grep hirsute | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:15] <constxd> uh oh
[15:15] <constxd> https://termbin.com/jmrs2
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu 20.04 has plasma version 5.18 as default, dunno if 5.19 is available, perhaps in a ppa?
[15:18] <ioria> constxd,  apt-cache policy dpkg apt | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:20] <constxd> ioria: https://termbin.com/zt3g
[15:21] <oerheks> There should be an original hirsute sourceslist stored somewhere,,
[15:21] <ioria> oerheks, https://termbin.com/yxmc    (at bottom)
[15:22] <oerheks> ioria, yes, seen that, weird
[15:23] <ioria> constxd,  your system is now an hybrid ... maybe you can use ppa-purge to fix it
[15:23] <constxd> lmao
[15:23] <ioria> constxd,  not sure is supported here anymore
[15:23] <ioria> brb
[15:23] <constxd> is there any way to just replace all the hirsute stuff with official stuff
[15:24] <oerheks> Move the corrupted one to the safe place sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/ and recreate it sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.
[15:24] <oerheks> step 2; Open Software & Updates software-properties-gtk. This will open software-properties-gtk with no repository selected. ( universe and such are disabled, enable them again and voila )
[15:25] <oerheks> but really, you were not on hirsute .. according to that list
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> tw-granddial: maybe more luck at #ubuntu-server with your question?
[15:29] <constxd> oerheks: ok and now should i do full-upgrade?
[15:30] <pycurious> How do i pass my private keys when I ssh to another username - I tried "sudo -E -s -u uname" - this does not pass the ssh-agent keys
[15:35] <constxd> seemed to work
[15:35] <constxd> thank you ioria and oerheks
[15:36] <BarnabasDK> pycurious, to a user on another machine?
[15:37] <BarnabasDK> ssh-copy-id -i <key> <user>@<machine>
[15:38] <pycurious> BarnabasDK: I'm on machine X -> I ssh to machine Y -> (I've ssh-agent forward my private keys to user ubuntu). Now I want to change user to user "db" but with the key set. So I was trying "sudo -E -s -u db" - but db does not get the private keys. The user ubuntu does get my private keys. If I just do "sudo -E -s" - root gets my private key.
[15:38] <pycurious> BarnabasDK: That is precisely what I dont want to do , hence am looking for this solution.
[15:41] <Joel> lotuspsychje will give it a shot
[17:23] <mei> hey, i think my grub ended on the wrong disk... how i can check that?
[17:25] <alkisg> mei, what's the output of sudo parted -l? If it's UEFI, you can just check if the files are there. If it's BIOS, you could use the boot-repair diagnostic script
[17:26] <Dro_> hello, how can I find lines in a file, that contains exactly two digits (wildcard), then one fixed letter... example : "05 C" , "02 C" , "11 C"
[17:28] <alkisg> A quick one would be: grep '[0-9][0-9][A-Z]' file
[17:28] <mei> alkisg: part -l of what?
[17:28] <mei> i get token not valid
[17:28] <davegarath> Dro_, egrep "^.. C$" file
[17:28] <alkisg> (or [:letter:] or [A-Za-z], depending on what you need exactly)
[17:29] <alkisg> mei: not part. parted
[17:29] <mei> yeah sorry but still token not valid
[17:29] <Dro_> davegarath, .. is for two digits?
[17:29] <alkisg> sudo parted -l, L, not one
[17:29] <davegarath> Dro_, . is for any character
[17:29] <Dro_> alkisg, thanks i'll try this
[17:30] <Dro_> alkisg, how ever the char is fixed "C"
[17:30] <alkisg> Dro_: then grep '[0-9][0-9] C' file
[17:30] <alkisg> A single space there?
[17:31] <Dro_> alkisg, yes, i'll try that
[17:31] <alkisg> mei, or sudo lsblk --fs
[17:32] <Dro_> alkisg, yes it works!! thank you
[17:32] <Dro_> thank you davegarath as well ^^
[17:32] <alkisg> You're welcome
[17:33] <davegarath> Dro_, no problem
[17:39] <mei> alkisg: i know the disks are parted. i just don't know where grub is installed. i even know where is /boot
[17:39] <mei> it's the mbr thing? i don't how to call that one. the thing that let the disk start grub
[17:39] <alkisg> mei: right, so if you pastebin this information, we'll know it too, and we'll be able to tell you if your vfat partition == uefi is in one disk only
[17:40] <mei> yeah, the uefi one is on the wrong disk...
[17:40] <alkisg> If your disk is MBR/BIOS formatted, then you'd need to check the MBR, yes
[17:40] <mei> i formatted it with ubuntu installer
[17:40] <mei> i made /boot and / ext4 from a disk without pratition scheem
[17:40] <alkisg> Are you booted in uefi mode? Does the /sys/firmware/efi directory exist?
[17:41] <alkisg> The procedure is the same in either bios or uefi mode
[17:41] <mei> it does
[17:41] <mei> i think i'm on efi
[17:41] <alkisg> We need this information, either ls /sys/firmware/efi, or sudo parted -l
[17:41] <mei> the thing is that if i try to boot the disk from boot menu on computer start, it doesn't boot
[17:41] <alkisg> We cannot help without information
[17:42] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course is the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to go back to my only wlo1 interface?
[17:43] <mei> alkisg: https://pastebin.com/raw/c9fzdkTD
[17:43] <alkisg> mei: ok, you're booted in uefi mode. In uefi mode, the installer sees the existing uefi partition and reuses it
[17:44] <alkisg> You wanted to create an additional uefi partition in a second disk?
[17:44] <mei> what's the difference? i wasn't aware of it. i just ignored that part
[17:44] <mei> and happened to be an uefi partiion on another disk
[17:45] <alkisg> Example. If disk 1 has windows and an uefi partition, and you install ubuntu in disk2, then the loader will go to the disk 1 uefi partition
[17:45] <alkisg> So if you remove disk 1, it won't boot anymore
[17:45] <alkisg> This is the usual thing that people want though; they wouldn't want to have to select "disk2" in order to boot
[17:48] <mei> that's exactly what happened. so i just removed the windows loader?
[17:48] <mei> my plan was the second situation, but didn't except to go into the uefi of theo ther disk without asking me
[17:49] <mei> in the ubuntu installer i had to choose the grub disk and i selected the new disk where ubuntu is
[17:50] <mei> i basically have sda which is windows disk. and sdb which is a clean disk where i got now ubuntu... but i was planning to not compromise the other system
[17:53] <alkisg> It's not compromised. UEFI is organized in files and directories. You just got an extra ubuntu directory in the UEFI partition. The Microsoft directory was not deleted.
[17:54] <alkisg> See for yourself: sudo ls /boot/efi/*
[17:55] <mei> mhm i see, but i'm not sure windows will like that... for updates... things...
[17:56] <alkisg> sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI
[17:56] <mei> that's why i was planning to be independent
[17:56] <alkisg> Millions of people dual boot with windows, it's not a problem
[17:56] <alkisg> UEFI has boot entries stored in "BIOS settings" (nvram), you may see them with: efibootmgr -v
[17:57] <alkisg> It natively supports multiple boot options
[17:57] <alkisg> Dual booting isn't putting any strain on it
[17:57] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this hapened few days ago. any ideas how to delete one of those devices?
[17:57] <mei> but the boot menu i get at start, is that grub or just efi?
[17:57] <alkisg> rafis: can you pastebin the output of ifconfig?
[17:57] <rafis> sure
[17:58] <alkisg> mei: it's grub. If you want the uefi boot menu, press F12 (or some other Fx key, it depends on the BIOS)
[17:58] <alkisg> mei: for example, if you press Del and go to UEFI/BIOS settings, and select "windows first" boot device, you won't even see grub at all
[17:58] <mei> yeah but that's where is not booting ubuntu... if i go into the f12 list and boot the ubuntu disk it say like "inser a boot disk and try again"
[17:59] <rafis> https://pastebin.com/g0hajaTB
[17:59] <mei> that's when i realized i got grub on the wrong disk :')
[17:59] <alkisg> That may be a wrong ubuntu entry. If you pastebin the output of this command, we'll know: sudo efibootmgr -v
[17:59] <mei> oh wait, i didn't try to boot the ubuntu entry (which are 2) i tried to boot the disk in which there is ubuntu
[18:00] <alkisg> That disk doesn't have an uefi partition, so it'll fail
[18:00] <rafis> alkisg: they are the same interface. wlo1 was my only one , until yesterday.
[18:01] <rafis> alkisg: i would like to delete wlan0, not just ifconfig wlan0 down
[18:01] <mei> alkisg: the thing is.. probably every time windows will version update, will overwrite grub again... so...
[18:01] <alkisg> rafis: wlan0 has the same MAC but a different IP. What changed since yesterday? How are you setting your IP, e.g. via network-manager?
[18:01] <mei> maybe is better if i'm able to move grub into the right disk
[18:01] <alkisg> mei, no, in UEFI there's no overwriting stuff. That's in BIOS/MBR
[18:02] <alkisg> You'll always be able to press F12 or Del and select the other OS
[18:02] <alkisg> Leave it as it is, it's the expected, usual thing, it's not a problem
[18:02] <alkisg> You may of course change it, but THAT would be the strange thing
[18:02] <mei> what about grub? i see that uefi boot is fine though
[18:03] <mei> well i suppose i will wait for the fall update and see what happens :')
[18:03] <alkisg> Run: sudo ls /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu. grub.efi goes there, while grub.cfg is in /boot
[18:03] <alkisg> (in the separate boot partition, in /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[18:04] <alkisg> Microsoft won't overwrite any of these files
[18:04] <rafis> alkisg: yes, im connected via networkmanager, i really dont remember, i installed few packages, but nothing to do with networking
[18:05] <rafis> alkisg: is it possible to delete wlan0 permanently?
[18:07] <mei> other quicker question: why the update app and the market app give me different updates?
[18:08] <alkisg> rafis: we'd first need to see what creates it; e.g. some kali monitoring tools create interface aliases for monitoring, but you said you didn't install anything related to networking, so I'm not sure where to look
[18:08] <alkisg> Wait, maybe someone else will have an idea
[18:24] <d3fn> Quick question - what would the best RDP alternative be for ubuntu? VNC? or ssh -X forwarding?
[18:28] <WaV> Personally I prefer VNC over SSH, but I rarely have the need for it tbh
[18:29] <WaV> With strict key-only ssh authentication.
[18:36] <d3fn> Thanks Ill fire up the tight vnc server
[18:45] <segfaultfizzbuzz> i have a bunch of heic files in a folder and want to see a preview of them in bulk so i can pick the image i want
[18:45] <segfaultfizzbuzz> i'm not finding a great way of doing this at the moment, any suggestions?
[18:58] <Guest51> hi, what's the easiest way to install ubuntu besides windows? i managed to install both ubuntu and windows and i can select between them using the bios boot menu but if i don't manually select it, it automatically boots windows :-(
[18:59] <ezakimak> after updating to 21.04 iptables is not working, thus preventing docker.io from starting
[19:00] <Guest51> i would like to automatically boot ubuntu while having the option to switch to windows if i want to
[19:00] <mei> is it normal that i have backports enabled by default?
[19:01] <mei> also i have like non-free things enabled even in the ubuntu install i didn't select the option for extra 3rd part software
[19:31] <mei> so this ubuntu store use snap. but in the ubuntu repositories there are still apps. so based on what i would use that or apt-get?
[19:32] <mei> as example now i'd like to get libreoffice... but i'm not sure what's the best place to get it
[19:58] <Lantizia_> Hi... what process is responsible for this very annoying pop up message... https://i.snipboard.io/5OlYF0.jpg
[19:58] <Lantizia_> And more importantly... how can I completely kill it **forever** from ever popping up ever again... especially on machines that run as a kiosk with a fullscreen app 100% of the time.
[19:58] <Lantizia_> Don't say disable checking for updates... I already did that - makes no difference :)
[19:59] <TJ-> it says on it "Software Update"  - so it's the notify from that process
[19:59] <Lantizia_> "Software Updater" is ready
[19:59] <Lantizia_> well that does secretly load on start-up and hide the background?
[20:00] <TJ-> !info update-notifier | Lantizia_
[20:01] <mei> mhm but you can easy disale that. although is really handy...
[20:01] <Lantizia_> It's not in this case
[20:02] <Lantizia_> mei, what would disabling it entail?
[20:02] <mei> i suppose it will popup if you apt-get update manually
[20:03] <mei> but i don't think it will check updates if you disable the check
[20:03] <Lantizia_> already did but it still does
[20:04] <TJ-> Lantizia_: actually, I don't think update-notifier is the one for that dialog
[20:04] <mei> what if you remove the notification permission from settings?
[20:05] <mei> settings - apps - software and updates - turn notification off
[20:09] <Lantizia_> https://i.snipboard.io/wzjI6k.jpg
[20:09] <Lantizia_> that's already done
[20:09] <mei> not there
[20:09] <mei> in the system settings
[20:10] <mei> you can disable permissions for each app, and one common permission is notification
[20:10] <Lantizia_> What exactly is 'System Settings' :)
[20:10] <mei> ubuntu settings? :D
[20:11] <Lantizia_> the is 'Settings' as a thing I can launch
[20:11] <Lantizia_> but not 'System Settings'
[20:11] <mei> the one you can get top right where you shutdown or logout
[20:12] <Lantizia_> that is 'Settings' :P
[20:12] <TJ-> Lantizia_: the secure may be to divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop
[20:14] <TJ-> Lantizia_: as in "dpkg-divert --divert /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop.diverted --rename /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop"
[20:15] <TJ-> Lantizia_: that'll ensure if the package gets an upgrade it won't reinstall that file (which could happen if you just removed it)
[20:23] <Lantizia_> TJ-, I've gone with the approach mei said - I'm likely to ditch Ubuntu on these 10 NUC's at some point anyway and put something a bit more stripped down later... I just needed a 'it'll do for now' fix :)
[20:24] <Lantizia_> mei, found it... did it for both the software updater and the software updates apps - both with very similar looking icons
[20:35] <mei> can you convert a minimal ubuntu install to full one? is there some meta package or something?
[20:36] <sarnold> mei: ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server, will kind of fulfil that role; it might not be exactly like doing the install from the desktop installer or the server installer, but it'll get all the packages anyway
[20:39] <mei> ubuntu-desktop is already there. maybe it got installed with optional dependences off
[20:43] <mei> okay seems that ubuntu-desktop^ will do that
[21:16] <Llenroc> Hello all! Just upgraded a remote server from 16.04->18.04. Having issues with grub-pc requiring an interactive prompt at "Configuring grub-pc". I need some way to bypass this as I'm now stuck at "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem" - but if I do so, I just get caught back at the
[21:16] <Llenroc> "Configuring grub-pc" prompt. ANy ideas? Thanks!
[21:18] <sarnold> Llenroc: put DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive before your commands
[21:28] <Llenroc> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/dfa48db96e04e16ebdc9d06a0931117e/grub-issue1.JPG
[21:28] <Llenroc> @Sarnold Results from attempt....
[21:29] <sarnold> Llenroc: ew. maybe dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc ?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> !info grub-efi-amd64 focal
[21:34] <Llenroc> Can't remove or reinstall it because it just complains about dpkg being interrupted
[21:35] <Llenroc>   /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is broken or not fully installed
[21:39] <jhutchins> Llenroc: apt -f install?
[21:39] <sarnold> Llenroc: argh :( I think you ought to file a bug on this, ubuntu-bug grub-pc -- but I'm not sure what else to suggest to make it move forward :(
[21:39] <Llenroc> @Sarnold Appreciate thr advice nonetheless, thank you
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: ^^ What results ' sudo apt install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64 ' ?
[21:42] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Throwing a -y in there, one sec...
[21:42] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om looks good though :D
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: aybe check now with jhutchins' suggestion ' sudo apt -f install '. See that the package manager is in a happy state.
[21:46] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Definitely some progress. Now stuck at the following (note: this is a remote server 500 miles away so I can't simply slect an option here...)
[21:46] <Llenroc> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/99a45c4b162c7ee93b63a659918e43aa/grub-issue2.JPG
[21:50] <Bashing-om> Llenroc: were me I would choose option "1" - and fix any issues at a later time. Let us "assume" that the package manager knows what it is doing here.
[21:51] <Llenroc> @Bashing-om Gotcha. Just gotta figure how to pass that via cli as I can't just choose an option
[21:51] <Bashing-om> sarnold: ^ is the more experienced here :D
[21:53] <sarnold> usually the DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive does the trick
[21:53] <sarnold> but I don't know for sure if it would work for *that* prompt
[21:54] <Llenroc> Well, it's at least a step in the right direction, and I sincerely appreciate that! Back to google-fu, I guess!
[22:39] <rafis> hello, does anyone knows why when "ifconfig" , it shows 2 wifi interfaces, wlan0, and wlo1 , of course they are the same, this happened few days ago. any ideas how to delelte permanently one of those?
[23:23] <hypocrite> hi i wanna install ubuntu with manual partitioning but when it comes to grub and installing in /boot/efi mount point it  cannot proceed. the error is "grub-efi-amd64-signed failed installation /target/ Ubuntu". any idea?(i also check the forum but it didn't work:))
[23:25] <windows10> it work
[23:26] <windows10> dl pus++
[23:26] <windows10> avistaments
[23:26] <windows10> hunter homtower
[23:26] <windows10> tstststsfy
[23:26] <d3fn> I am trying to get an always on vpn connection with ubuntu. The VPN connection and Network Manager seem to not start properply after reboot. if I login and restart the NetworkManager service everything works fine though.
[23:27] <d3fn> any thoughts on what could be the issue?
[23:27] <d3fn> i configured everything with `nm-connection-editor`
[23:30] <genii-core> Does apt-cache search  or apt search not report things in multiverse?
[23:33] <sarnold> genii-core: I think it should if you've got your apt sources configured correctly..
[23:36] <genii-core> sarnold: Actually, the package I was looking for turned out to be in universe... but it looks like packagenames with ++ might be the issue
[23:38] <genii-core> sarnold: eg: apt search libstdc++5   .... no result. But: apt search libstdc|grep ++5   ... libstdc++5/bionic,now 1:3.3.6-30 amd64 [installed]
[23:39] <sarnold> genii-core: oh that, probably the apt 'patterns' :(
[23:40] <genii-core> It's pretty annoying
[23:40] <sarnold> genii-core: I got sent onto a diversion of my own, for some reason "apt-cache show manpages-posix" doesn't show the usual Filename: entry on my system..
[23:40] <sarnold> genii-core: extremely
[23:40] <sarnold> I wish that the patterns had been introduced with something like pattern:foo*bar* etc
[23:44]  * genii-core sips and ponders
[23:45] <genii-core> sarnold: Well, at least apt policy seems to work
[23:47] <genii-core> sarnold: ..I also find it a bit amusing when I did the: apt search libstc|grep ++5  that it reports: "WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts."
[23:49] <sarnold> genii-core: oh, I just can't read! :) I've got my apt sources configured to load multiverse contents from ddebs.ubuntu.com, but not from my own local mirror. sigh :)
[23:49] <sarnold> genii-core: yeah :/ any time stdout isn't a terminal it reports that. kinda annoying but I get it..