[00:03] <cyberanger> the point of a cap is those that are above normal threshold
[00:03] <cyberanger> but the question if it's doable by just anyone
[00:03] <cyberanger> yes
[00:06] <chibihogoshino> yeah i was just wondering how long it would take at full speed
[00:12] <cyberanger> your full speed
[00:12] <cyberanger> or your plans
[00:12] <cyberanger> 8 hours, 27G
[00:13] <cyberanger> qne my plan is 3mb/s
[03:05] <vychune> hello
[03:11] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[03:16] <vychune> hello again cyberanger
[03:17] <vychune> sorry i was watching WWE RAW
[03:17] <cyberanger> hey chris4585
[03:18] <cyberanger> you know you quit in the download period last night
[03:18] <cyberanger> vychune: quite alright
[03:18] <vychune> download period?
[03:18] <cyberanger> satellite internet
[03:18] <vychune> and thanks
[03:18] <vychune> cool
[03:18] <cyberanger> capped, but a period in the night goes unmeterted
[03:19] <vychune> ok
[03:23] <vychune> so what are you guys upto?
[03:23] <cyberanger> downloading the ubuntu repository
[03:24] <cyberanger> peice by peice
[03:24] <vychune> THE WHOLE THING?
[03:24] <vychune> D**M
[03:24] <cyberanger> in the end it'll be the whole thing
[03:24] <vychune> HOLY SHITTE
[03:25] <cyberanger> atm just hardy and lucid, next I'm gonna add natty
[03:25] <vychune> atm?
[03:26] <vychune> and have you tried unity 2D
[03:26] <cyberanger> and between working withing isp constraints, and end of life for some versions, I'll get it all on my servers
[03:26] <cyberanger> atm, at the moment
[03:27] <vychune> wow
[03:27] <cyberanger> working somewhat slowly, lest I piss off my isp
[03:27] <cyberanger> 90G a month tops
[03:27] <vychune> lol
[03:27] <chris4585> cyberanger, hrm yeah? I quit so I wouldn't be disconnecting and reconnecting all night
[03:28] <cyberanger> or get a higher bandwidth cap if it's unobtainable goal
[03:28] <cyberanger> not tried unity yet
[03:28] <vychune> oh ok
[03:29] <cyberanger> chris4585: it doesn't take alot of bandwidth to maintain a mirror
[03:29] <vychune> whats atm mean?
[03:29] <cyberanger> just setting it up
[03:29] <cyberanger> atm, at the moment
[03:29] <vychune> oh ok
[03:29] <vychune> *slaps himself*
[03:30] <vychune> lol
[03:31] <cyberanger> chris4585: if I knewwhat packages work and chattacon need, I'd be even more selective
[03:31] <cyberanger> idk if that'd help you, but I bet it could
[03:32] <chris4585> I'm slightly confused, but I'm fine cyberanger
[03:32] <chris4585> cyberanger, I think I showed you this already http://chris4585.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/hughesnet-i-hate-you-but-then-i-love-you/
[03:32] <cyberanger> talking about a bandwidth conservation idea for you
[03:33] <cyberanger> a private mirror, real selective in what it has
[03:33] <chris4585> its alright cyberanger, I do fine by not doing anything lol
[03:33] <cyberanger> that sounds painful
[03:35] <vychune> cool
[03:36] <cyberanger> chris4585: cool
[03:36] <cyberanger> I think i did, but a sweet refresher
[03:41] <vychune> hey chris what u up to
[11:31] <cyberanger> morning everyone
[11:48] <wrst> morning cyberanger
[11:48]  * wrst darts off to work
[11:56] <cyberanger> wrst: just a quick hello I see
[13:19] <wrst> hey cyberanger now i'm back :)
[13:19] <wrst> for a longer hello :P
[13:37] <netritious> morning
[13:38] <wrst> howdy netritious youd oing ok?
[13:38] <netritious> doing fine wrst, yourself?
[13:39] <wrst> doing well about to finally get melted out, how are things in the western regions?
[13:39] <netritious> the last of my snowman melted yesterday so not to bad :)
[13:39] <netritious> still cold but not as it could be
[13:40] <wrst> netritious: windows ? for you, got a machine with 1GB of RAM and a athlon 3800 processor will that ever reasonably run vista?
[13:42] <netritious> reasonably? hm...barely is more like it
[13:42] <netritious> 2 GB ram is minimum for vista IMHO
[13:43] <wrst> kinda what i thought, its a family members if i can find some ram cheap i might order them a stick
[13:43] <netritious> sounds like ddr2 from the cpu, which is dirt cheap right now
[13:43] <wrst> yeah i might just do that
[13:44] <wrst> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/heatsink.jpg  <--- netritious from this same machine
[13:45] <wrst> i stuck both the fan and the heat sink in soapy water :)
[13:45] <netritious> never tried soapy water...
[13:47] <netritious> but a bottle of isopropyl alcohol + zip lock back works wonders
[13:47] <netritious> and safe for fans
[13:47] <wrst> well probably not the best but i didn't have any compressed air at that moment and the cpu was kinda melted to the heat sink so really didn't think it mattered but it sped things up nicely
[13:47] <wrst> but the fan may have a short life now :)
[13:47] <netritious> :)
[13:47] <wrst> but it no longer sounds like a helicopter taking off
[13:48] <netritious> as long as you let it dry really well it will probably be ok
[13:48] <netritious> lol
[13:49] <wrst> dry, what is that i just whiped it off and put it back in :)
[13:49] <netritious> lol
[13:49] <wrst> actually i really didn't expect the cpu to work again, it all pulled out without me releasing the release on the cpu so i thought it was all toast
[13:49] <wrst> i kinda feared i had messed the board up
[13:49] <netritious> eek
[13:50] <wrst> yeah 1GB under 20 bucks i will match it up with what they have and give them a gig , i already reinstalled vista for them too
[13:50] <wrst> as virus infested as it was i didn't even attempt to fix it
[13:51] <netritious> the reason I use alcohol is because it evaporates and does a decent job of breaking down most kinds of oil based substances (like cig smoke/tar residue)
[13:51] <netritious> it's also cheap and plentiful, and can be picked up at 2 am from Walgreens if required
[13:52] <netritious> I also use lighter fluid sometimes...it's great for getting the thermal paste off a cpu
[13:54] <wrst> yeah netritious i need to remember that, i was just a little flustered because that machine is so dirty that's not normal, evidently they never dust or have their computer in a horse barn or something
[13:54] <wrst> i am going to take it to my dad's shop and use his air compressor to blow it out, cut down the pressure but it would take 30 cans of air
[13:55] <netritious> that's a good idea
[13:56] <wrst> should that processor work ok on vista, to do email, and some itunes?
[13:56] <wrst> athlon 3800
[13:56] <netritious> the cpu is more than enough...dual core 2.0 GHz I think
[13:57] <wrst> ok well some air, a reinstall, and about 20bucks will get them going ok
[13:58] <netritious> yeah should do
[13:58] <wrst> cool, best widnows advice you can get is in the ubuntu loco channel
[13:59] <wrst> netritious: i was about attempted to put ubuntu on it had it not been for their utter dependence on itunes
[14:02] <netritious> lol
[14:03] <wrst> i really hate itunes, I try to stick with amazon, e-music, or some other DRM free service
[14:04] <linuxman410> wrst u here
[14:04] <wrst> hey linuxman410
[14:04] <linuxman410> i have my auctions up
[14:04] <wrst> got links? :)
[14:05] <linuxman410> http://shop.ebay.com:80/strange007/m.html   here is link
[14:07] <wrst> linuxman410: windows xp???
[14:08] <linuxman410> yeah it was a spare machine
[14:09] <linuxman410> got a deal on it
[14:09] <wrst> ha ha ok i guess you are excused, but you may have to change your name to xpman410 :P
[14:10] <linuxman410> no that cannot happen i am just selling it the only time u will ever see me with one like that for sale
[14:11] <linuxman410> wrst i can sell it to mhall119
[14:13] <wrst> linuxman410: those run ubuntu decently if i'm not mistaken
[14:13] <Svpernova09> Anyone have any experience with routing, iptables, nat? difficulty: it's a centos box I'm trying to troubleshoot >.<
[14:15] <linuxman410> wrst it had the windows xp and i figured i would see it like that since it had the restore disk
[14:16] <linuxman410> wrst last one i sold with ubuntu was the atom and the guy emailed me and said it ran windows 7 great
[14:16] <wrst> that might help
[14:16] <wrst> great win 7
[14:16] <wrst> :)
[14:17] <linuxman410> that guy was crazy nothing great about windows
[14:17] <netritious> Svpernova09: what's the problem
[14:17] <Svpernova09> Centos hates me.
[14:17] <linuxman410> wrst the alternative install worked on my laptop
[14:17] <wrst> cool linuxman410
[14:17] <Svpernova09> ok, 2 network cards, 1 public communistcast IP, 1 local <IP_ADDRESS> network
[14:17] <netritious> Centos hates everyone so stop feeling sorry for yourself :P
[14:17] <Svpernova09> I can ssh into the box via the public ip, no problems
[14:18] <Svpernova09> I can't ping anything from there on the local network.
[14:18] <netritious> reset the comcast router?
[14:18] <Svpernova09> Nah, I can ssh in, I don't think it's a comcast issue
[14:18] <netritious> you know, poull the power, count to 10, plug it back in
[14:18] <Svpernova09> all of our IPs are responding to pings.
[14:18] <netritious> oh wait
[14:18] <Svpernova09> We're using the centos box as our router, so it's grabbing all 5 of our Ips
[14:18] <netritious> I can't ping anything from there on the local network.
[14:19] <netritious> ^^ the problem?
[14:19] <Svpernova09> well, it was all working, something died around 815 last night
[14:19] <Svpernova09> NAT appears to be not working
[14:19] <netritious> pastebin these files...
[14:19] <netritious> oh wait n/m
[14:19] <netritious> it's centos
[14:19] <Svpernova09> Right
[14:19] <netritious> but probably same files
[14:20] <netritious> /etc/network/interfaces
 hey netritious, ESXi is cool stuff </unrelated>
[14:20] <netritious> /etc/resolv.conf
[14:20] <Svpernova09> yeah, on centos interfaces is broken up to seperate configs, 1 sec
[14:20] <netritious> /etc/hosts
[14:21] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: you got your new server? nice
[14:21] <xTEMPLARx> i got *A* new server
[14:21] <xTEMPLARx> its not quite what I wanted but its not awful
[14:21] <netritious> specs xTEMPLARx?
[14:21] <xTEMPLARx> supermicro 2U rm box with xeon quad core, 8gb ram
[14:21] <xTEMPLARx> i removed the 2008 server install they had on there and tossed ESXi (vsphere) on there
[14:21] <Svpernova09> netritious: http://pastebin.com/cCSV6Cya
[14:21] <netritious> nice xTEMPLARx
[14:22] <xTEMPLARx> other than snapshots, are you aware of a way to copy and paste to duplicate an existing VM?
[14:22] <xTEMPLARx> I suppose I could copy and paste the actual files and see if it picks them up as an additional VM
[14:22] <netritious> that should be all you have to do
[14:23] <netritious> <-- Still VMware ESXi clueless...I still use VMware Server 1.0.10 on Ubuntu :P
[14:24] <xTEMPLARx> ESXi is a lot less painful than I thought it'd be... managing it from the vSphere client
[14:24] <netritious> Svpernova09: can you ping from that machine to a public address (ping www.google.com)
[14:24] <Svpernova09> Aye I can
[14:24] <xTEMPLARx> even doing copy/paste functions are pretty quick
[14:25] <netritious> Svpernova09: as root, iptables -L >pastebinit
[14:25] <netritious> (if you have pastebinit installed)
[14:25] <netritious> nice xTEMPLARx
[14:26] <Svpernova09> netritious: http://pastebin.com/nJBYfDSh
[14:27] <netritious> I think I am done with VMware xTEMPLARx
[14:28] <xTEMPLARx> done with virtualization entirely, or moving to a new product
[14:28]  * Svpernova09 coughs OPENVZ!
[14:28] <netritious> Svpernova09: output from ifconfig eth0 eth1
[14:28] <Svpernova09> http://pastebin.com/vNfMtKwW
[14:35] <xTEMPLARx> netritious1: done with virtualization entirely, or moving to a new product?
[14:36] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: using KVM and LXC on my test server
[14:36] <netritious> LXC isn't where it needs to be but it's getting there, and runs OpenVZ containers too (mostly)
[14:36] <xTEMPLARx> so what spurred this changeover?
[14:37] <netritious> trying to use more open source
[14:37] <xTEMPLARx> kk
[14:38] <netritious> Svpernova09: do you have two gateways? one for WAN and one for LAN? aka multi-homed system
[14:38] <Svpernova09> yeah, eth0 is the wan, eth1 is the lan
[14:39] <Svpernova09> eth2 is a seperate LAN, we're not doing anything with it yet
[14:39] <netritious> what is eth1 connected to?
[14:40] <Svpernova09> a swtich
[14:40] <Svpernova09> that the rest of the network is connected to
[14:40] <Svpernova09> eth0 -> comcast router
[14:41] <netritious> that does sound like a routing problem
[14:41] <Svpernova09> It's been working fine >.<
[14:41] <Svpernova09> I just don't know this stuff well enough
[14:41] <netritious> have you tried flushing iptables?
[14:41] <Svpernova09> I've restarted everything I can think of, even the box
[14:41] <netritious> restarting = flushing iptables
[14:42] <Svpernova09> I'm leary of doing anything with iptables cause I don't want to lock myself out of the box
[14:42] <wrst> cyberanger: if you come back around I have an openbox question for you
[14:42] <Svpernova09> ANd I'm still waiting on the guy that set this up for us to get back to me
[14:42] <netritious> I can understand that completely
[14:43] <netritious> how long have you been waiting on this guy?
[14:43] <Svpernova09> since about 815 last night
[14:43] <Svpernova09> it's his box, so He's got access to remotely fix it, another reason I don't want to break iptables
[14:44] <netritious> are you able to ping the server from other LAN computers connected to the switch?
[14:44] <Svpernova09> I'm not sure,
[14:44] <Svpernova09> Dan was there last night, he plugged directly into the switch and the dhcpd isn't handing out IPs
[14:44] <Svpernova09> so that's another issue
[14:47] <netritious> sounds like you should wait on the guy
[14:47] <Svpernova09> yea >.<
[14:48] <Svpernova09> Thanks for looking at it.
[14:48] <netritious> np
[14:48] <Svpernova09> I have learned one thing though.
[14:48] <Svpernova09> So not a total waste
[14:48] <Svpernova09> CentOS is dirty
[14:49] <Svpernova09> donotwant
[14:49] <netritious> lol
[14:49] <netritious> ubuntu server rocks
[14:49] <xTEMPLARx> ubuntu is a spoiler of admins
[14:49] <netritious> it is that indeed
[14:49] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[14:50] <Svpernova09> This weekend, I was reinstalling Dan's server to put a clean version of proxmox on it, since his machine is 32bit, you have to install debian lenny then install custom proxmox deb's
[14:50] <netritious> so has everyone that uses Ubuntu server filled out the survey?
[14:50] <Svpernova09> I learned that debian has changed A LOT in the past 5 years
[14:50] <xTEMPLARx> not I
[14:50] <Svpernova09> Mainly, when you tell it NOT to install the desktop system, it installs it anyway -.-
[14:50] <xTEMPLARx> actually, I'm not currently using ubuntu server on anything so I guess its not fair to say I'm using it
[14:50] <Svpernova09> What survey?
[14:50] <xTEMPLARx> i HAVE used it
[14:50] <xTEMPLARx> just not currently
[14:51] <xTEMPLARx> i'm actually using a base ubuntu install on the NAS RAID system I put together here in the office
[14:51] <netritious> you can still fill out the survey then xTEMPLARx :P
[14:51] <netritious> http://survey.ubuntu.com/
[14:53] <netritious> Svpernova09: I installed debian on a really old Server Snap NAS but it's in the recycle bin atm...couldn't get ubuntu on it
[14:53] <Svpernova09> >.<
[14:53] <Svpernova09> I used to LOVE some debian, but now it feels awkward as hell
[14:55] <netritious> it's weird for me using Debian..it's more like pre-Ubuntu 8.04 which prior to 8.04 the only experience I had was telling people to install it if they had bootleg windows
[14:55] <netritious> or couldn't afford a license
[14:55] <netritious> but no real experience with Debian other than testing
[14:56] <netritious> I'm not knocking it, just I like Ubuntu
[14:56] <Svpernova09> When i finally gave up on redhat I went to slackware, then to debian
[14:57] <Svpernova09> some of these questions are amusing
[14:58] <Svpernova09> "Which do you think your organisation would be most likely to require paid professional support" No to all, cause my organization pays me to fix these problems, if I can't I turn to google / community
[14:58] <netritious> ^^ it gets to that Svpernova09
[14:58] <Svpernova09> I guess canonical is trying to tailor their support a bit more maybe
[15:00] <netritious> all they would really need to do is ask politely  "what will you pay for?" lol Just come out with it Canonical! :D
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> wouldn't that be paid prof support?  you?
[15:00] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:00] <Svpernova09> xTEMPLARx: very true
[15:02] <xTEMPLARx> i found a typo in the survey... who do i report it to?
[15:02] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:02] <xTEMPLARx> Premium Serivce Engineer
[15:02] <netritious> whoops! :)
[15:03] <xTEMPLARx> Virualised server environment
[15:03] <xTEMPLARx> another
[15:03] <xTEMPLARx> Here's possibly another:  "If you manage a large (<20 nodes) "
[15:04] <xTEMPLARx> wouldn't that be >20?
[15:06]  * netritious promotes xTEMPLARx to unofficial status of locotn grammar police chief
[15:07] <xTEMPLARx> <--- proof reader
[15:07] <xTEMPLARx> :D
[15:07] <netritious> :D
[15:08] <netritious> I noticed a few, but I tend to overlook typos unless it's my stuff and even then I miss a few
[15:08] <xTEMPLARx> its harder to notice your own errors
[15:08] <netritious> agreed
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> playing around with VM snapshots
[15:18] <xTEMPLARx> I assume VMWare server had that as well
[15:25] <netritious> xTEMPLARx: yes
[15:25] <netritious> be careful with snapshots
[15:25] <xTEMPLARx> do tell
[15:26] <netritious> it's an alluring feature that can create downtime if you're not careful
[15:27] <netritious> if you create a snapshot of a running guest and forget to delete it after you back it up, it will slow your vm down
[15:27] <netritious> not at first but eventually
[15:27] <xTEMPLARx> so
[15:28] <xTEMPLARx> should I take the snapshot, then shut the VM down, and copy the snapshot away somewhere?
[15:28] <netritious> a friend of mine just this past Friday spent 6-7 hours waiting on a snapshot to delete in order to bring his broken VM back up
[15:28] <netritious> shut the vm down, copy files to another directory and/or move to a network share
[15:29] <netritious> start the VM back up
[15:29] <xTEMPLARx> this particular one is just over a gig in size
[15:29] <netritious> that's why I am moving to KVM and LXC
[15:30] <xTEMPLARx> open source?
[15:30] <xTEMPLARx> :P
[15:30] <netritious> VMware ESXi *is the bomb* but features you find yourself needing down the road cost quite a bit
[15:30] <netritious> and VMware Server is just as bad really
[15:31] <netritious> choosing KVM and LXC allows me to use LVM snapshots vs snapshots using the host software
[15:32] <xTEMPLARx> explain
[15:32] <netritious> you can do LVM snapshots on VMware Server instances too, but it's not supported and I've had mixed results with it
[15:32] <netritious> LVM = Logical Volume Manger
[15:33] <netritious> LVM is a supported partition type in Ubuntu and other linux distros
[15:34] <netritious> If you install LVM (really LVM2) then you can dynamically create, delete, resize, and take snapshots of your system partitions while the system is hot
[15:35] <netritious> the nearest relative on Windows is Volume Shadow Copy
[15:35] <xTEMPLARx> never messed with either
[15:35] <netritious> I'm not 100% it works the same, but it's close
[15:36] <netritious> the cool thing with KVM is that you can create an LVM partition and mount it directly
[15:36] <netritious> well LVM Logical Volume
[15:37] <xTEMPLARx> the way this appears... I should be able to shut down a VM, then copy its entire folder as a backup
[15:37] <netritious> Physical Volume (PV) -> Volume Group (VG) -> Logical Volume (LG) -> File System
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> and if something happens, I can just copy it back into place and remove the errant copy
[15:38] <netritious> yeah
[15:38] <netritious> although I've never tried with ESXi so don't know what's involved
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> that might actually be less painful than monkeying with snapshots
[15:38] <netritious> yep
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> i've already done it once in trying to duplicate my first VM
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> so
[15:38] <xTEMPLARx> if I capture a snapshot
[15:39] <xTEMPLARx> am I now running on that snapshot?
[15:39] <xTEMPLARx> or is it just a save point that I can revert to
[15:39] <netritious> the latter
[15:39] <xTEMPLARx> so
[15:39] <xTEMPLARx> the longer and more data is in a system being used, the larger its snapshots will be
[15:40] <netritious> nail on the head
[15:40] <xTEMPLARx> so for example... i'm at one gig right now for a base install of xp pro
[15:40] <netritious> 1 GB? are you sure?
[15:40] <xTEMPLARx> once I get sql server and IIS, .NET frameworks, etc etc... and THEN our actual work files...
[15:40] <xTEMPLARx> my snapshots are gonna be huuuge
[15:40] <netritious> yep
[15:40] <xTEMPLARx> 1,053,865.00 KB
[15:41] <netritious> snapshots are meant to be temporary
[15:41] <xTEMPLARx> okay so then a snapshot is meant to be a "lemme try this thing real quick" and if it fails or whatnot, then revert and no harm, no foul
[15:42] <xTEMPLARx> but don't use the VM for 6 months and expect to use the snapshot to reset the VM back to blank?
[15:42] <netritious> exactly
[15:43] <xTEMPLARx> Guess I need to do a bit more digging on the purpose of the snapshot then.  I had assumed it was a nice way of marking a point in time as a fallback.  Something a bit more permanent than just a bookmark for, say, a day's work to be undone
[15:44] <netritious> the way people try to use snapshots, even myself at first, is to create one *while the guest is running*, pause the VM, and copy the snapshot, delete the snapshot, all done...but this presumes you have a recent copy of the VM vmdk disk files too
[15:44] <netritious> no, you have it right
[15:44] <netritious> use snapshots as a bookmark in time
[15:44] <netritious> when you're satisfied with your testing, delete the snapshot
[15:45] <netritious> I always create snapshots prior to system updates for instance
[15:45] <netritious> when everything looks good I delete the snapshot
[15:45] <xTEMPLARx> what?!  you don't trust microsoft's system restore?!
[15:46] <netritious> uh No, lol
[15:46] <netritious> but only because nasty virii and malware can get stuck in them making it impossible to remove
[15:47] <netritious> *them=the restore points
[15:47] <xTEMPLARx> weird this one VM has 3 copies of the HD file
[15:47] <xTEMPLARx> the original vmdk file, and two marked 00001 and 00002
[15:47] <netritious> did you split the drive into 2GB increments? or is that an option with ESXi?
[15:47] <xTEMPLARx> no they're all the same size at 83gb
[15:48] <netritious> the ones marked 00001 and 00002 are probably snapshot files
[15:50] <xTEMPLARx> prolly so
[15:56] <xTEMPLARx> this describes the snapshot problem in great detail http://www.networkcomputing.com/virtualization/recovering-from-corrupted-snapshots-on-vi4.php
[15:58] <xTEMPLARx> there... i just shut them both down, made backups and restarted them
[15:58] <xTEMPLARx> took several minutes to sort it out, but still much faster than having to clone a machine
[18:01] <wrst> hello 17SAARRBP
[18:12] <wrst> ahh Genphlux thats you :)
[18:36] <cyberanger> netritious: how big is your mirror?
[18:37] <netritious> cyberanger: with hardy and lucid, including partner repos, right at 100 GB
[18:39] <netritious> chris4585: I ran across your forum post about bootable USB...have you ever tried installing grub4dos from linux to usb?
[18:40] <chris4585> netritious, hey
[18:40] <chris4585> I've never played around with grub4dos before
[18:41] <cyberanger> I excluded partner repos and it appears to be fetching 115
[18:41] <cyberanger> (was gonna just be lucid, but had to add hardy for chattacon too)
[18:41] <netritious> cyberanger: I can only get partner working by setting up a separate repo
[18:43] <netritious> I use three scripts to build my mirror cyberanger
[18:43] <netritious> mirror-main.sh - runs demirror with auto cleanup weekly on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[18:43] <cyberanger> same for security (which i didn't count)
[18:44] <netritious> mirror-security.sh - runs demirror with no cleanup daily on security.ubuntu.com
[18:44] <netritious> those two ^^ create my main mirror
[18:44] <netritious> create and maintain rather
[18:44] <netritious> keep it updated
[18:45] <cyberanger> and mirror-main is 100G or all mirroring (main alone is 15G larger)
[18:45] <netritious> mirror-partner.sh - runs demirror with auto cleanup weekly on partner.canonical.com
[18:46] <cyberanger> you don't fetch source, do you?
[18:46] <netritious> the "main" part just means "the main script" not "main repo"
[18:46] <netritious> no just deb's
[18:47] <netritious> I rarely build from source, and when I do it's usually from a git repo
[18:48] <cyberanger> yeah us.archive.ubuntu.com (maybe I added source, which was the long run plan, and explain the additional size)
[18:49] <netritious> adding src increases the mirror exponentially and IMHO is a waste of time, bandwidth, and space to mirror
[18:49] <netritious> *increases the mirror size
[18:49] <netritious> in most cases anyway
[18:49] <netritious> unless you want to be official mirror :)
[18:51] <cyberanger> yeah, which is the long run plan
[18:51] <cyberanger> but not right now, time constraint
[18:55] <chris4585> cyberanger, I think its ironic that just about everything I install comes from ppas
[18:56] <netritious> chris4585: I have been using ppas more too keeping my hardy servers up to date with some packages (clamav for one)
[18:59] <cyberanger> netritious: that had to be it, just added --nosource into the mix
[18:59] <cyberanger> and the size it wants to fetch dropped considerably
[19:00] <netritious> du -sh /mirror/ = 97G - du -sh /partner/ = 3.0G...just updated
[19:00] <cyberanger> chris4585: what are you using from ppas
[19:01] <cyberanger> yeah, my equilavant to /mirror/ was gonna be an extra 17G then
[19:01] <cyberanger> what's security's size
[19:03] <netritious> security is in /main/ too so no way to tell atm
[19:03] <netritious> no easy way that I know of anyway
[19:03] <cyberanger> ah, I split the two
[19:03] <cyberanger> /mirror/archive and /mirror/security
[19:03] <chris4585> unity-qt, foobnix, libreoffice, awn testing, synapse, gmusicbrowser, ubuntu-tweak, webup8 ppa has a lot of goodies, zeitgeist, equinox, nautilus-elementary, orta, virtualbox and opera
[19:04] <cyberanger> actually, /mirror/ubuntu/archive and /mirror/ubuntu/cdarchive and /mirror/ubuntu/security, thinking further
[19:05] <cyberanger> since security comes from a different repo and official mirrors wouldn't have it, thought It'd be good to keep seperate
[19:05] <netritious> really it's an experiment on my part...i can't find anything official on why the two are separated, but I haven't looked to hard either, but security.ubuntu.com repos do seem to get updated more quickly and more often
[19:05] <Svpernova09> netritious: turns out our network issue was a bad ethernet cable -.-
[19:06] <cyberanger> Svpernova09: don't you just hate that
[19:06] <Svpernova09> Yeah, was rather annoying
[19:06] <netritious> I truly was going to suggest to try that first
[19:06] <netritious> that and the switch next
[19:06] <xTEMPLARx> Svpernova09: that stinks!
[19:06] <chris4585> I hate it when a whole port on a router just doesn't work
[19:06] <netritious> two easiest things to try
[19:07] <netritious> at least it's an easy fix
[19:07] <cyberanger> netritious: same here, nothing offical, or any signs of a technical reason, my guess is a mitm fear, which makes zero sense
[19:08] <cyberanger> due to apt-secure's setup
[19:08] <Svpernova09> netritious: we also have open wifi @ space for the meeting :_D
[19:08] <netritious> nice Svpernova09
[19:08] <netritious> that will come in handy :D
[19:09] <netritious> will get my torrents setup now
[19:09] <Svpernova09> lol
[19:09] <cyberanger> but that and response time, quicker to get security pushed out, and little load if nearly everything tries the main repo first, read down the line and all
[19:10] <cyberanger> archive.ubuntu.com (or a mirror of it) then partner, then security
[19:10] <cyberanger> and that assumes it reads down the line (which I suspect, but never tried to find out)
[19:11] <cyberanger> and your not needing to be an official mirror and already keep servers and mirror's maintained, so I think your fine
[19:13] <netritious> chris4585: I asked about grub4dos and bootable USB since from Windoze I used this app called MultiBootISOs from pendrivelinux.com..
[19:13] <netritious> after customizing a bit produced an awesome 8GB multiboot drive for me
[19:13] <cyberanger> netritious: and you didn't leave alot out of that
[19:13] <cyberanger> just backtrack 3
[19:13] <cyberanger> which has more bluetooth hacking tools
[19:14] <chris4585> I don't really have a purpose anymore for multibooting usb, but thanks for the info
[19:14] <netritious> I'm all patting myself on the back about it, but really all I did was change the boot splash, modify the menu.st for grub4dos, and add server/alternate installs to the foray
[19:15] <xTEMPLARx> and all that just to put ur favorite dukes of hazzard wallpaper on the boot splash?
[19:15] <xTEMPLARx> nice
[19:15] <netritious> haha exactly xTEMPLARx
[19:15] <netritious> well, not exactly, I wanted all 10.04 LTS on one drive
[19:16] <netritious> and a few utilities I use fairly often
[19:16] <netritious> the MultiBottISOs only supports Maverick mostly and no support for multibooting server and alternate installers
[19:17] <xTEMPLARx> makes sense to me :D
[19:18] <netritious> http://tinyurl.com/4etdbh8 screenshot
[19:19] <netritious> chris4585: that's cool...the point I was trying to get at is that I would like to do it from scratch via Ubuntu Live CD, but my testing so far has produced some unexpected, not very reliable results
[19:20] <netritious> http://tinyurl.com/4m3buh9 how I did it and how you can do it to (if you have windows) lol
[19:21]  * netritious is ashamed he had to use Windows to create a Linux USB Multiboot Device :P
[19:25]  * cyberanger didn't say anything, did find it funny
[19:40] <cyberanger> netritious: could you hack billix into doing what you want
[19:40] <cyberanger> I think you could
[19:40] <netritious> idk never heard of it cyberanger
[19:42] <cyberanger> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/announcing-billix-027-and-superbillix-027
[19:42] <cyberanger> http://www.linuxjournal.com/magazine/billix-sysadmins-swiss-army-knife?page=0,2
[19:42] <cyberanger> http://sourceforge.net/projects/billix/
[19:56] <cyberanger> netritious: cool tool
[20:00] <netritious> cyberanger: billix or...?
[20:00] <netritious> billix seems cool
[20:00] <netritious> superbillix too
[20:00] <cyberanger> well, both
[20:00] <cyberanger> minute difference
[20:01] <cyberanger> well, for your reason
[20:01] <cyberanger> ubuntu live disc is in superbillix
[20:01] <cyberanger> billix just has dsl
[21:00] <pace_t_zulu> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/568
[21:00] <pace_t_zulu> ^ Qt apps on Ubuntu
[21:08] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, I think mark has honestly gone crazy, but thats just my opinion
[21:08] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: i think he might just like the idea of LGPL
[21:10] <cyberanger> it could be both
[21:11] <cyberanger> I'm a fan of a sweet Qt app, vlc
[21:11] <cyberanger> but personally I'd strip it out
[21:11] <cyberanger> as I don't use it (I use the ncurses interface
[21:12] <cyberanger> and idk, lgpl or gpl, ubuntu or debian
[21:12] <cyberanger> and it's kinda funny, if licenses like the lgpl are worth the effort, why not apply them to gobuntu


[00:12] <intuxicated> lol
[07:40] <the-light> ping fzerorubigd
[08:06] <the-light1> fzerorubigd: ping
[08:08] <fzerorubigd> the-light1: pong
[08:09] <the-light1> fzerorubigd: /msg?
[08:09] <fzerorubigd> the-light1: sure
[15:34] <ehsan> hi all
[15:34] <ehsan> bache ha
[15:34] <ehsan> ye moshkeli ba ubonto daram
[15:34] <ehsan> ????
[15:34] <ehsan> kasi nist?
[15:34] <ehsan> aloooooooooo
[15:35] <ehsan> :|
[15:37] <ehsan> ?!!!?
[15:37] <ehsan> :|


[21:34] <cub> I read that holstein had left. Too busy with other things or unhappy with how things were progressing?
[21:35] <zequence> cub: You can find him on other channels, such as #opensourcemusicians, if you want to ask him yourself
[21:35] <zequence> I should probably not speak for him in any case
[21:37] <cub> Aha I thought he left irc altogether
[21:38] <cub> so zequence what are you going to do with all the time you get on your hands when stepping down as PL? ;)
[21:45] <zequence> cub: I'm already kind of busy with other things. Which was my plan last year already. Was going to do what I could until November or so, and then keep the torch on low until I quit
[21:45] <zequence> I'm always a bit over optimistic, and I didn't get much done during those months leading to November
[21:45] <zequence> So, not very pleased about that
[21:45] <zequence> This year will be 100% dedicated to music for me
[21:45] <cub> nice
[21:46] <cub> The candidates aren't really rolling in by the masses
[21:46] <zequence> Nope
[21:47] <zequence> If no one appears before Monday, Set is it
[21:47] <cub> seems so
[21:47] <zequence> cub: You into recording?
[21:47] <cub> I'm still too much hit'n'run to engage
[21:47] <cub> nooo I wish I would make some time for music and recording again
[21:48] <zequence> There are some really great videos on this guys channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpyUGZeMUtOvt57UACw3H2g
[21:48] <cub> but it's hard
[21:48] <zequence> Some really cult producer interviews, and lots and lots of gear porn
[21:49] <zequence> cub: There's a reason why I'm probably never getting children
[21:49] <cub> hmm I haven't seen that channel. I followed Recording Revolution for a while though, great stuff for home recordings
[21:49] <zequence> Ok, haven't seen that one. Will look it up
[21:50] <zequence> Just be aware. Warren Huart always begins with "..hope you're doing marvelously well"
[21:50] <zequence> Every single time!
[21:50] <cub> well children are fun too. It's been hard for us for a few years though as my GF is running her own company. You don't get to be sick, on parental leave or vacation running your own 1-person-firm
[21:50] <cub> haha it's gimmick
[21:50] <cub> or compulsive..:D
[21:51] <zequence> I'm kind of leaning on the second option there :)
[21:53] <cub> oh well, it's already late for an old guy like me. Better get ready for tomorrow..:P G'nite!


[00:42] <pleia2> lynorian: heh, yeah, it really is an exceptionally inexpensive conference for the size and quality
[00:43] <pleia2> OSS Summit is more in line with what one usually expects cost-wise for large events


[06:08] <foxmask> 안녕하세요
[08:06] <Jason-KR> Hi~ fox mask ^^  Why France have a high mortality rate?  I'm curious but worried.
[08:07] <foxmask> Jason-KR: when ?
[08:08] <Jason-KR> (recntly or) NOW by CoViD-19.
[08:09] <Jason-KR> It's most in the world. ㅠㅠ
[08:09] <foxmask> Jason-KR: where did you see a rate of mortality ? because actually, we can all go out because of the R0 rate near 1
[08:10] <Jason-KR> 예? Hmm...
[08:13] <Jason-KR> i saw https://coronaboard.fr/   and https://coronaboard.kr/  Deces 19.1% is a most in the world. 😥
[08:14] <foxmask> Jason-KR I see, I don't know why
[08:15] <foxmask> I think a lot of people haven't been counted before.
[08:16] <Jason-KR> OK. ^^   I hope U (& family) R healthy.
[08:17] <foxmask> Jason-KR: it's ok for now ; thanks
[08:17] <Jason-KR> ^^
[08:23] <foxmask> Jason-KR: I hope you're fine too and your family also
[08:23] <Jason-KR> THX a lot, 2.
[08:30] <foxmask> I think there were a lot of factors : 1) stupidity and denying the truth of the virus from people and no respect of confinment 2) the gouvrment took decisions (confinment + masks) too late 3) masks is a long story ; governmant said "you dont need" then 2 weeks later "you need them" then they order masks too late
[08:32] <foxmask> french people still think they wont be infected... the stupidity is very high and arrogance too
[08:34] <Jason-KR> I totally agree w/U above  1~3.
[10:50] <Seony> 안녕하세요
[10:50] <Seony> 2달째 집에서만 일하는데, 이번달 말까지 더 집에서 하라네요. 재택근무 이거 굉장히 스트레스군요
[11:02] <pchero_work> 안녕하세요, 오랜만입니다. :)
[11:03] <pchero_work> 저도 벌써 3달째인데.. 이제야 좀 재택근무가 익숙해지고 있네요. ㅎ
[11:06] <Seony> 전 익숙이 아니라... 점점 스트레스가... ㅎㅎ  살만 쪄가네요
[11:06] <Jason-KR> 난 두 분 다 *아직도* 재택근무인지 몰랐어요.
[11:16] <pchero_work> ㅠ
[11:16] <pchero_work> 그냥 감금상태입니다.
[11:17] <pchero_work> 집에서 근무하는건 좋은데 밖에 못나가니… 영.. -_-;;;
[11:17] <Jason-KR> 에구 딱하시다 ㅠㅠ


[01:02] <chrissbx> I can't boot from the mythbuntu CD images, neither when burned to CD, nor when put to USB flash stick.
[01:02] <chrissbx> getting "Kernel panic - not synching: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0)";
[01:03] <chrissbx> or "unknown-block(104,1)" in the case of the USB stick
[01:03] <chrissbx> I've used unetbootin to create the USB stick. wodim to burn the CD.
[01:03] <chrissbx> What's wrong?
[01:04] <chrissbx> And the USB stick error is both on a ThinkPad T61 and on a Acer one netbook.
[01:04] <chrissbx> So "what the hell, how can this work for anyone?" is my reaction.
[01:04] <Zinn> chrissbx: Please watch your language.
[01:05] <chrissbx> I've put quotes.
[01:05] <chrissbx> You're a bit too stupid, Zinn.
[01:05] <Zinn> Hi chrissbx, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[01:12] <chrissbx> !help
[01:12] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:57] <tgm4883> chrissbx, did you verify the ISO that you downloaded?
[01:57] <tgm4883> chrissbx, did you verify it from the boot menu?
[16:23] <chrissbx> tgm4883: verify? I checked the sha sum(s) if you mean that.
[16:23] <chrissbx> Not sure what you mean with "from the boot menu".
[16:24] <chrissbx> I think unetbootin is probably not working right, but I don't know why the CD wouldn't work either.
[16:25] <chrissbx> Downloading a Debian iso right now to see whether that works.
[18:46] <endaf> exit
[18:46] <endaf> quit


[23:19] <student> yeah ok my morzilla doesnt show the web address bar anymore itslikke its in full screen all the time and i need help on how to get it back
[23:19] <graingert> eg whenever the screen updates, I get interference
[23:19] <hovorka> When I boot up my computer, the GUI doesn't seem to start, and instead I am presented with a root terminal: "root@ubuntu:~#". Does anyone know what causes this?
[23:19] <graingert> this does not happen on windows
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Mitlin: may help too
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Mitlin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55096/display-brightness-scaling-is-incorrect-on-a-vaio-cw
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Mitlin: once you find the right file / folder you can spit percentages to it with echo+tee and it will change
[23:20] <xangua> student: on 'custom toolbar' preferences select to restore default values
[23:20] <Mitlin> aah oke. Im trying it now
[23:20] <bobo37773> kaddi, Maybe something like this -->     http://bobpeers.com/linux/hard_drive_install
[23:22] <student> no i have eee pc surf model it wont i have to press f6 just to see tab bar cause i downloaded something and the web bar disapeared\
[23:22] <Mitlin> @ actionparsnip im installing the tool that is required to use the command you gave me.
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> Mitlin: you could run: sudo find /dev > ~/output.txt    and read or grep the file to see if anything looks likely
[23:23] <aBound> student, To get out of full screen mode for Firefox press F11. But if you aren't seeing your web address bar simply right-click in the top middle of the browser and click "Navigation toolbar"
[23:25] <student> when i right click nothing happens
[23:25] <chai> hi, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu on a second partition of a raid 0 drive
[23:25] <chai> in the ubuntu installer, the second partition (currently NTFS) shows up as "unusable"
[23:26] <bobo37773> student, You are not right clicking the right place
[23:26] <chai> trying again with the daily build... anyone have experience dual-booting on raid 0?
[23:27] <bobo37773> student, try clicking where the menu bar is (file edit view etc) or where your bookmark toolbar is
[23:27] <aBound> student, See where my mouse is in this picture: http://i.imgur.com/iISly.png
[23:28] <aBound> student, Try to find an area like that and right-click it'll bring up a small dialog box.
[23:30] <rats_> cd /home/ratts
[23:31] <rats_> cd /home/ratts
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> chai: ask in #ubuntu+1 for precise
[23:32] <aBound> student, Or try pressing F10 and than going to View >> Toolbars >> Navigation Toolbar.
[23:33] <student> i cant right click anywhere everything is gone
[23:33] <chai> ActionParsnip, will do thanks
[23:34] <student> how do you take a screenshot
[23:35] <aBound> student, Press "Prt Screen" aka "Print Screen" on your keyboard.
[23:38] <student> how do you take a screenshot
[23:40] <flowerpot> student, https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=how+do+you+take+a+screenshot+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[23:41] <flowerpot> student, http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3448
[23:41] <flowerpot> answer: press the print-screen button and, if you're using 10.10, you'll get a prompt that lets you save it and stuff.
[23:41] <hovorka> When I boot up my computer, the GUI doesn't seem to start, and instead I am presented with a root terminal: "root@ubuntu:~#". Does anyone know what causes this?
[23:42] <flowerpot> hovorka, no idea, but you may want to start by looking through the error logs on your machine.
[23:42] <jimmie> Possibly a bit of an odd question but does anyone here play Minecraft? Im having trouble with something on 11.10
[23:43] <philip__> Hello guys. I have two os on my hdd. both are ubuntu, 10.10 and 11.10. My system is slow since yesterday on both distros. cpu seems to be ok, ram also, and my hdd seems healty, but i still have my doubts about that. What should i do next?
[23:44] <student> i think i have an oder version of ubuntu look up my pc model:  asus eee  pc surf model
[23:44] <student> i think i have an oder version of ubuntu look up my pc model:  asus eee  pc surf model
[23:45] <aBound> student, I assume your Asus Eee PC uses Ubuntu Netbook Edition.
[23:46] <student> i dont know
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[23:47] <FloodBot1> NyanCat-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:47] <Juv1228> hi, I just finished building a new pc, and I plan on installing ubuntu on it. but it also has a 64gb SSD, and im looking for some pointers on the best way to optimize performance using it
[23:48] <aBound> Juv1228, As long as you're running 64-Bit and an SSD I doubt you can go wrong. :P
[23:48] <Juv1228> aBound, i mean in terms of partitioning/swap etc
[23:48] <student> it
[23:49] <Juv1228> it also has a 500gb hdd i would like to use for /home
[23:49] <aBound> Juv1228, You could use an alternate Ubuntu ISO which allows you to customize it. In terms of SSD you won't have any performance problems.
[23:49] <aBound> As I use an 80GB SSD.
[23:49] <pp7_> 32gb here :P
[23:49] <student> 2tb here
[23:49] <Juv1228> in terms of swap, do i really need it if I have 16gb of ram?
[23:50] <pp7_> student: SSD?
[23:50] <aBound> Juv1228, lol I have 16GB too.
[23:50] <Juv1228> will not having any at all have any negative effects?
[23:50] <LjL> Juv1228: with 16GB, realistically, no, but the thing is also that swap space is needed to hibernate, so if you want to do that....
[23:50] <student> no hard drive
[23:50] <pp7_> student: what u using then?
[23:50] <aBound> Juv1228, Realistically 16GB of RAM is overkill unless you're doing some high-end work.
[23:51] <pp7_> oh u meant" "no, hard drive" ?
[23:51] <Juv1228> aBound, i run multiple vm's on a daily basis
[23:51] <student> yeah thats what i meant]
[23:51] <aBound> Juv1228, I doubt you'd have any issues.
[23:51] <Juv1228> so the ram is needed
[23:51] <aBound> As I have 16GB of RAM too.
[23:51] <drako689> hi
[23:51] <drako689> please
[23:52] <pp7_> aBound: do your VM's run super fast?
[23:52] <pp7_> i meant Juv1228
[23:52] <aBound> pp7_, I tried a few but they felt a bit sluggish I assume I need some performance tweaking. :P
[23:52] <aBound> Ahh... lol
[23:52] <drako689> i tryng to install php5-xsl in ubuntu
[23:52] <drako689> and appears that msg
[23:52] <drako689> http://pastebin.com/wFaERctc
[23:52] <pp7_> aBound: with SSD?
[23:53] <pp7_> or using ramdisk?
[23:53] <drako689> i can update? or can i mess my php configs?
[23:53] <aBound> pp7_, Yeah, it's probably due to not giving the VM enough RAM.
[23:53] <aBound> :P
[23:53] <pp7_> hah
[23:53] <aBound> I think last time I gave Debian a gig of RAM.
[23:53] <aBound> lol
[23:54] <Juv1228> on my current build, i only have 4gb ram total
[23:54] <Juv1228> so it presents some issues when running more than one vm
[23:54] <aBound> Juv1228, Awesome multiple VIMs. By default I noticed the Ubuntu installation tends to take care of everything and just installs.
[23:54] <philip__> Am i on the right channel for hardware issues assistance?
[23:54] <student> how can i restore the factory settings to my laptop
[23:54] <pp7_> anyone here use nvidia cuda?
[23:55] <aBound> Programs load up quickly with an SSD though hehe.
[23:55] <aBound> nVidia cuda not that I know of.
[23:56] <Juv1228> also, how does ubuntu handle intel hd graphics 3000?
[23:56] <Juv1228> i went with no gpu for this build
[23:57] <LloydBanks> :)))))
[23:57] <LloydBanks> woa
[23:58] <roadfish> How do I get internet sharing between my two Ubuntu PCs? They are connected with an ethernet cable and I already have SSH setup. But "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" fails (using gnu.org's IP address as example).
[23:58] <aBound> Juv1228, I can't say how well it handles Intel HD Graphics 3000 as I use an nVidia card.
[23:58] <aBound> Juv1228, Lemme guess you use a System76 machine?
[23:58] <edyson> lewl
[23:58] <edyson> :D
[23:58] <whoever> i am having a problem printing emails, everything else ie: libre office docs webpages print fine, but when I try to print an email from gmail only the left side of the page will print . can someone assist ?
[23:58] <LloydBanks> :))
[23:58] <Scama`> :)
[23:58] <LloydBanks> rupere
[23:59] <edyson> ai cui sunt ?
[23:59] <Scama> plm stie
[23:59] <LjL> !english
[23:59] <Scama> dar sunt multe chanale
[23:59] <Scama> suck me LjL
[23:59] <edyson> ya me to
[23:59] <edyson> :))
[23:59] <LloydBanks> :))
[23:59] <Scama> sa moara mata
[23:59] <LjL> !ro


[04:19] <tzufli> hello
[04:21] <ibuclaw> o/
[04:22] <tzufli> i am trying to install maya in ubuntu ...i've read the instalation guidelines, and i believe that i installed everithing i would need to proceed ....but every time I try this it gives a couple or errors:
[04:22] <tzufli> sudo rpm -ivh AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm --force-debian
[04:22] <tzufli> error: Failed dependencies:
[04:22] <tzufli> 	/bin/sh is needed by AWCommon-11.5-19.i686
[04:22] <tzufli> 	/bin/sh is needed by Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64
[04:22] <tzufli> any ideas how to make this work? I would apreciate it ...have been trying all day long
[04:23] <ibuclaw> rpm is for Fedora/RedHat-like distributions
[04:23] <ibuclaw> Ubuntu uses dpkg
[04:23] <ibuclaw> you'll have to convert the package using 'alien'
[04:24] <tzufli> the installer kept telling me that but i don't really know what it means
[04:24] <tzufli> is that a software to convert rpm to dpkg?
[04:25] <ibuclaw> yes - sorta kinda... :)
[04:25] <ibuclaw> it's not the cleanest thing in the world, but it is suitably efficient
[04:25] <ibuclaw> tzufli, usage would be:
[04:25] <tzufli> is a command that i have to execute on the maya rpm file
[04:25] <ibuclaw> fakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm
[04:26] <ibuclaw> fakeroot alien -d Maya2009_0_64-2009.0-101.x86_64.rpm
[04:26] <ibuclaw> tzufli, and that should create two new .deb files for you.
[04:27] <tzufli> in the same folder i supose
[04:27] <tzufli> and the debian files will be executable?
[04:29] <ibuclaw> tzufli, via command-line, you will be able to install them using dpkg -i
[04:29] <ibuclaw> rather than rpm -ivh
[04:29] <tzufli> ohhh
[04:29] <tzufli> i will try it right now :)
[04:30] <tzufli> please excuse my stupid questions....but i am kinda new to linux...i use it at work ...but there... it's all set up by the admin
[04:30] <tzufli> and thank you for the help
[04:31] <tzufli> fakeroot alien -d AWCommon-11.5-19.i686.rpm
[04:31] <tzufli> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 176: alien: command not found
[04:32] <tzufli> i am guessing that i have to install some library to get this to work?
[11:22] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:23] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[11:24] <duanedesign> hey  there Silver_Fox_
[11:24] <duanedesign> good weekend?
[11:25] <Silver_Fox_> No worse than usual.  How was yours ?
[11:25] <duanedesign> we've had the third major snow storm in as many months
[11:25] <duanedesign> so stayed in all weekend
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> Is everyone okay?
[11:32] <duanedesign> there have been about a half dozen deaths mostly car accidents and elderly people succumbing to exposure. All my family is ok thank godness.
[11:37] <Silver_Fox_> That is some relief.
[12:13] <Flare183> What's the default buffer size for Audacious?
[12:37] <ndefontenay> Hi everyone
[12:40] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[12:54] <ndefontenay> Hiya
[14:15] <ndefontenay> hi
[14:16] <ndefontenay> I should write a script to say hi every once in a while
[14:16] <ndefontenay> never know
[14:16] <leoquant> /nick/the_undertaker
[14:16] <leoquant> oops
[14:17] <ndefontenay> hi leo
[14:17] <leoquant> hi
[14:17] <ndefontenay> hey you're a seedling for the unanswered questions tonight right?
[14:18] <leoquant> uh, i missed something here
[14:18] <ndefontenay> lol
[14:18] <ndefontenay> well maybe not then x)
[14:46] <Silver_Fox_> Hi swoody  :)
[14:46] <nigelb> hey Silver_Fox_, swoody :)
[14:58] <swoody> hello Silver_Fox_ and nigelb :)
[14:58] <swoody> how are you two doing?
[14:58] <nigelb> doing good.  had a tiring monday
[14:59] <swoody> nigelb: I know that feeling ;)
[16:11] <nigelb> heya PabloRubianes
[16:11] <PabloRubianes> hey nigelb
[16:22] <romulus_> hey
[16:22] <romulus_> i'm looking for help
[16:23] <romulus_> i can't custmize my gnome
[16:23] <romulus_> i try to install a gdm theme
[16:23] <romulus_> anyone can help me ?
[16:25] <Silver_Fox_> Which version of ubuntu are you using romulus_  ?
[16:25] <romulus_> the last one i guess
[16:25] <romulus_> 9.10
[16:25] <romulus_> karmic
[16:26] <Silver_Fox_> system -> administation -> login window
[16:26] <Silver_Fox_> Then click local tab
[16:27] <Silver_Fox_> You should see a button labeled "Add" on the right
[16:27] <Silver_Fox_> Find your theme (should be a tar.gz file)
[16:27] <romulus_> i dont see any tab
[16:27] <romulus_> i can only choose to connect auto
[16:30] <romulus_> maybe it's because i already changed the appearence
[16:30] <romulus_> with gtk theme changer
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Hmm,  okay,  a thought:
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Try this System > Preferences > Appearance > Theme
[16:31] <Silver_Fox_> Then choose install and find where you downloaded your theme. Then click okay
[16:33] <romulus_> it doesn' work
[16:33] <romulus_> should i extract the file ?
[16:34] <Silver_Fox_> No,  you should not need to.
[16:35] <romulus_> the file is .gz and not tar.gz
[16:35] <romulus_> but this is a gmd theme
[16:35] <romulus_> gdm*
[16:37] <hobgoblin> romulus_: hi - theming in gdm changed in karmic (and looks like lucid is the same )
[16:37] <hobgoblin> gksudo -u gdm dbus-launch gnome-appearance-properties
[16:37] <hobgoblin> should open the theme window for gdm
[16:38] <hobgoblin> it looks very similar to the normal one - shoudl be able to drag and drop the theme onto there and it install
[16:43] <romulus_> ok but there is no special tab for the login screen ?
[16:44] <romulus_> i'm happy with my current theme but i want to remove the old login sreen
[16:46] <romulus_> i'm lost with gdm compiz gtk ... is there a how to i can read ?
[16:46] <romulus_> ifound nothing clear on google
[16:46] <hobgoblin> no - there is no tab for the login screen afaik
[16:47] <hobgoblin> it all changed in karmic and in lucid too
[16:47] <romulus_> so i drag and drop and there is no confirmation
[16:55] <hobgoblin> romulus_: gdm compiz and gtk are all different things
[16:57] <romulus_> they are desktop engines ?
[17:27] <benny1> Hello I wonder if someone can give a little assistance with VLC Media player?
[17:29] <benny1> I have somehow hidden it completely. If i right click an .mp3 it will play it, but I see no window or control options... very frustrating!
[17:30] <benny1> anyone??
[17:32] <Silver_Fox_> Alt + Tab
[17:32] <Silver_Fox_> Is VLC shown in the running applications ?
[17:34] <benny1> If i look in system monitor it is
[17:36] <swoody> benny1: is it minimized to your notification area? There may be an orange traffic-cone icon there?
[17:36] <benny1> but alt + tab has no active window apart from one labelled " VLC (X11 Output)"
[17:36] <swoody> (notification area, not the taskbar)
[17:36] <benny1> Which is the notification area?
[17:37] <swoody> the area with your sound icon, network icon, etc.
[17:37] <swoody> right next to the clock
[17:37] <benny1> There is nothing there apart from Rhythmbox which I just closed in case it was hiding something
[17:37] <swoody> hmm...
[17:38] <swoody> benny1: and you right-click on the file and select 'open with VLC' correct?
[17:38] <benny1> I have tried uninstalling and completely removing VLC but to no avail, exactly the same issue. it was working not half an hour ago!
[17:39] <benny1> Yeah open with VLC, I can play a song, infact I can open many instance until I get a cacophony of simultaneous songs, but still no interface to actually control anythng
[17:40] <swoody> benny1: well, if you don't mind losing any VLC settings, I would try closing VLC (via system monitor) and delete your ~/.config/vlc folder
[17:41] <swoody> then when you try again, it should open VLC with default settings
[17:42] <benny1> OK I have closed all the instances where is the /.config folder located ?
[17:43] <swoody> /home/yourname/.config/vlc
[17:43] <swoody> you can hit ctrl+H to show hidden folders
[17:43] <swoody> i.e. the .config folder
[17:43] <swoody> (if you're using gnome?)
[17:43] <benny1> OK I will give this a go.
[17:44] <benny1> Do I delete the folder or just the contents?
[17:44] <swoody> benny1: either one, it should recreate the folder and/or it's contents if it's not there
[17:45] <benny1> Should I reboot before restarting VLC or go right ahead?
[17:45] <swoody> benny1: shouldn't need to reboot, just try opening a file w/ VLC again
[17:46] <swoody> (as long as you made sure there weren't any other instances of VLC running in system-monitor)
[17:46] <benny1> Success!!! thank you swoody
[17:47] <swoody> benny1: excellent, that's good to hear :)
[17:47] <swoody> yeah, must have enabled some kind of setting that was throwing it off :/
[17:48] <benny1> I wonder woudl you also know how to get the ghastly green and black vertical stripes when I go full screen to stop, i guess it can't be an issue with codecs as it works great windowed.  but something to do with stretching to fir a HD tv on ps3 running ubuntu?
[17:49] <swoody> hmm...
[17:50] <benny1> IM not sure where I'm going wrong but can't make the display options match my tv..
[17:51] <swoody> maybe try going to Video>Aspect Ratio and trying various options there?
[17:51] <swoody> or possibly try Video>Deinterlace and try some changes there
[17:52] <benny1> Yeah deinterlace helped, can I make my chosen setting a default?
[17:53] <swoody> benny1: yeah, you should be able to. Go to Tools>Preferences
[17:53] <swoody> and then on the left-hand side, click on Video, and there's a box there for deinterlacing
[17:53] <benny1> Thanks!!!
[17:53] <swoody> then be sure to save, and close VLC
[17:53] <swoody> and try it out :)
[17:54] <swoody> benny1: it's np :)
[18:08] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye
[19:12] <christine11> hi all...
[19:12] <pedro3005> hi christine11
[19:12] <christine11> goin' nuts here trying to work on an assignment and new to ubuntu
[19:12] <christine11> hi pedro3005
[19:12] <pedro3005> christine11, need any help?
[19:12] <christine11> absolutely pedro3005
[19:13] <christine11> petra.. thanks
[19:13] <pedro3005> i'll see what I can do.. ask away
[19:13] <christine11> yes, I'm trying to create a shell script and am really really NEW at it
[19:13] <christine11> it's for a class I'm taking
[19:13] <pedro3005> i've seen better people at bash scripting than me
[19:13] <christine11> and I have some background in other scripting - such as java...
[19:14] <pedro3005> that means i'm a complete utter idiot at bash scripting....
[19:14] <christine11> well... it's not even the scripting that has me hung up at the moment
[19:14] <pedro3005> geirha, i think i've seen you do some bash, care to help?
[19:14] <christine11> it's more creating the file and getting it into my VMPlayer to run it
[19:14] <pedro3005> christine11, oh
[19:14] <christine11> I know I'm supposed to be able to use vi as a text editor, correct?
[19:15] <christine11> but using ubuntu in the player, well...  It was orinally a stock 8.04.1. I did apg-get
[20:30] <pombreda> update then upgrade
[20:30] <pombreda> it updated t 8.04.4 with this message:
[20:30] <pombreda> The following packages have been kept back:  bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-30 libisccc30 libisccfg30 linux-image-server linux-server
[20:31] <pombreda> sudo apt-get install bind9-host linux-image-server linux-server got it to install also these "kept back" packages
[20:31] <pombreda> after this a reboot: the system does not reboot
[20:32] <pombreda> there was a screen with L 99 99 99 99 99 99
[20:32] <pombreda> some research showed this could be lilo propblem.
[20:32] <pombreda> I booted with the orinal CD in rescue mode
[20:32] <pombreda> and tried /sbin/lilo
[20:32] <pombreda> same problem
[20:33] <pombreda> atm, I have the system booted with the rescue CD, sheel started on my original root disk.
[20:33] <pombreda> all the disks seem ok, and the content is there. but it does not boot at all.
[20:33] <Flare183> pombreda: Um lilo isn't supported anymore tho... I don't think...
[20:33] <Flare183> !lilo
[20:33] <Votebot> an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[20:33] <pombreda> I have no idea if lilo or grub was installed.
[20:34] <Flare183> cd /boot && ls
[20:34] <pombreda> I used the standard install on 8.04.1 from then.
[20:34] <Flare183> do you see a grub folder?
[20:34] <Flare183> yup, you've got grub most likely then
[20:34] <Flare183> That is, unless you've reconfigured lilo to replace grub
[20:34] <pombreda> no grub folder in /boot
[20:35] <Flare183> yup, you've reconfigured it :/
[20:35] <pombreda> I woudl not know the first thing on how to configure lilo :D
[20:35] <Flare183> sudo apt-get install grub
[20:35] <pombreda> ok
[20:35] <Flare183> tell lilo to get the mess outta your computer xD
[20:36] <pombreda>  Flare183: sudo apt-get install grub : done
[20:36] <Flare183> um did it remove lilo?
[20:36] <pombreda> how do I get rid of lilo beyond this? and noy hose my drives/partitions?
[20:37] <Flare183> sudo apt-get remove --purge lilo
[20:37] <pombreda> you understand I am booted with the rescue cd right?
[20:38] <Flare183> crap
[20:38] <Flare183> >><
[20:38] <Flare183> >.<*
[20:38] <Flare183> pombreda: I forgot >.<
[20:39] <pombreda> ? not sure I parse :P
[20:39] <Flare183> do you know how to mount your main root filesystem that's on your HD(S)?
[20:39] <pombreda> this is done
[20:39] <pombreda> this is mounted
[20:39] <Flare183> cd to that folder and look in /boot
[20:40] <pombreda> yes this is what I did
[20:40] <Flare183> Alright, then do this
[20:40] <pombreda> I have 2 linux images there: the old 8.04.1 and the new 8.04.4
[20:41] <Flare183> Well don't worry about the images, I guess.
[20:41] <Flare183> hmmm
[20:41] <pombreda> ie initrd.img-2.6.24-19-server (<IP_ADDRESS>) and initrd.img-2.6.24-27-server (the one that I installed above
[20:41] <pombreda> ok
[20:42] <Flare183> bah if I could ssh up to the server, I could do it for you >.<
[20:42] <Flare183> But like, its hard to explain how to fix it
[20:43] <Flare183> What I would do is install grub onto your main root fs
[20:43] <Flare183> but the way grub looks at the HD's is whack
[20:43] <pombreda> hum... let me see. the server is in rescue mode, but a buddy did start and sshd there, that is how I am accessing it atm, but through a few other hosts
[20:44] <Flare183> Set  up images to boot from DEVICE. DEVICE must be a GRUB device (e.g.``(hd0,1)'').
[20:44] <pombreda> ok
[20:44] <Flare183> That comes from grub-setup's man page
[20:45] <Flare183> If you'd let me ssh up to it, I might be able to fix it for you
[20:45] <pombreda> let me see if that is possible
[20:45] <Flare183> pombreda: Alright.
[20:53] <pombreda> Flare183: I think I should be able to get an ssh access. should take 20 minutes to get help for this. will you still be there then?
[20:53] <Flare183> pombreda: yeah
[20:53] <pombreda> btw thx ++ for taking the time to help :)
[20:54] <pombreda> Flare183: thx mucho, brb as soon as the config is there
[20:56] <Flare183> ok
[21:01] <benny> Hello everyone, are there any ipod users out there that can offer a little advice to a linux newbie?
[21:04] <Hellow> benny: What's your problem?
[21:04] <benny> Specifically, is there any software available to backup an ipod on linux? I have gtkpod, but it's usefulness in making a backup of my ipod is pretty limited as it will lump everything together in one folder, I would like to split everything up by/artist/album/ I have used a program called copy trans manager under windows to do this previously but can't find anything similar for linux
[21:05] <Hellow> The only things Google are returning relevant to gtkpod only.
[21:06] <Hellow> s/returning relevant/returning are relevant
[21:08] <benny> Yeah thats what I got, too Maybe gtkpod can do this and I can't figure out how. Rhythmbox that comes with ubuntu at installation is going to be fine for everyday use, it's just this once i need to backup my original ipod after my windows PC bit the dust a few years ago, I only have a ps3 running linux to do this from... hmm well thanks for looking anyways.
[21:09] <benny> Hellow: I wonder is there any kind of program that can do something similar to Shazam, but for music on a computer, for example "listen" or  take a sample to parts of a tune then automatically fill out a completed ID3 tag? Without me having to sit and play every song then type all the info into things I don't know the names of?
[21:09] <Hellow> benny: What I have found, however, is that, if gtkpod maintains the correct tags for your music, you could sort them using a program known as "id3tool" and a bash script: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/bash-script-for-sorting-and-renaming-multiple-mp3-files-by-id3-tags-602105/
[21:12] <benny> Hellow: That seems like it will pretty much do what I need and anything further I can fiddle with at my leisure, Thank you!
[21:12] <Hellow> Glad I could be of assistance.
[21:13] <benny> very much so!
[21:26] <pombreda> Flare183: re.
[21:27] <benny> If I want to install a piece of software that isnt under synaptic or ubuntu software manager, Which version do I download is it ther ".deb" or a "tar.gz" ?
[21:31] <BGL-[e]> benny: a lot of times a .deb can be easier to deal with
[21:32] <benny> Okay, can I assume they will both work then? I will go for the .deb if it's easier. but just for reference what is the difference?
[22:18] <pombreda> Flare183: thx ++ for being so helpful, and have a great day!
[22:18] <Flare183> pombreda: Alright you too :)
[23:02] <pombreda> off to bed . ciao yo fine newbies helpers!
[23:41] <willa> I've taken away my ability to use the LAMPP installation, and placed some other server in its stead. How do I undo this?
[23:42] <willa> Yes, it's a pickle ...
[23:43] <willa> Is there a different chat room I could ask in?
[23:48] <willa> Is this channel open?


[04:34] <Crisco> hey, sorry I haven't been here much, I ignore alot of my networks which included freenode
[07:10] <webrsk> happy morning :) :)
[07:27] <UndiFineD> good morning
[16:44] <MichealH> 320
[16:44] <UndiFineD> hi MichealH
[16:44] <MichealH> Hey :)
[16:47] <UndiFineD> nice, we have progress
[18:00] <MichealH> Right pushing again
[18:02] <MichealH> 322
[18:02] <MichealH> Its a big update
[18:20] <UndiFineD> mmm had another lovely diner cooked by my daughter
[21:39] <MichealH> UndiFineD: :)
[23:51] <Muscovy> Hello all.


[03:04] <bspencer_> mdz, Mithrandir who handles flashplugin_nonfree update?
[03:04] <bspencer_> in the gutsy / multiverse repo
[03:04] <bspencer_> it is out of sync with Adobe now, fails with checksum error
[10:58] <HappyCamp-John> Good morning rusty
[11:00] <bob_spencer> rusty, fresh from a big breakfast
[11:03] <rusty> morning
[11:03] <rusty> just a quick coffee and a crowded ride on the tube
[11:04] <rusty> i seem to have a knack for picking hotels
[11:04] <rusty> bob_spencer, did you notice that the flash isn't working on the samsung?
[11:05] <bob_spencer> no
[11:06] <bob_spencer> I noticed it working well
[11:06] <rusty> so it's working for you?
[11:06] <rusty> i haven't tried yet today
[11:06] <HappyCamp-John> Hey rusty, I have been making modifications to your baby MIC previously known as PB
[11:06] <bob_spencer> rusty, working except that the ubuntu package is out of sync with Adobe
[11:06] <rusty> good changes i take it
[11:06] <bob_spencer> so you can't install flash deb file
[11:06] <HappyCamp-John> I like to think so.
[11:07] <Mithrandir> morning Bob
[11:07] <bob_spencer> morning, <yawn>
[11:07] <mdz> bob_spencer: Debian handles new releases from Adobe generally
[11:07] <mdz> bob_spencer: various people including asac have worked on the packaging
[11:07] <HappyCamp-John> It is morning here:) 2am
[11:07] <bob_spencer> mdz, just out of sync right now
[11:07] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: so, we can't distribute images containing the Adobe plugin due to legal yadayada, but I assume you know that.
[11:08] <mdz> bob_spencer: out of sync with what?
[11:08] <rusty> yea, what are you guys talking about?
[11:08] <bob_spencer> out of sync with the latest flash version fro madobe
[11:08] <bob_spencer> the md5sum is failing
[11:09] <bob_spencer> Mithrandir, yeah, I know
[11:09] <bob_spencer> Mithrandir, kick rusty, it's all his fault
[11:09] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: Flash is his fault?  Can I drop him off the building then? ;-P
[11:10] <bob_spencer> flashplugin-nonfree is failing the md5sum because adobe recently updated the linux plugin
[11:10] <bob_spencer> I know it is a temporary problem
[11:10] <bob_spencer> yes, I know you can't ship it
[11:10] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: have you had any progress on the source to the player?
[11:10] <HappyCamp-John> rusty, hopefully error checking is better in project builder now.  Since we think Tariq selected his home directory as the project directory and then deleted his project and for some reason complained when his home directory disappeared.
[11:11] <bob_spencer> meaning making it gnash-worthy?
[11:11] <bob_spencer> (complained loudly)
[11:11] <rusty> bob_spencer, did you add the source to the flash file?
[11:11] <HappyCamp-John> So know it only allows people to create projects in empty directories or non-existent directories.
[11:11] <HappyCamp-John> s/know/now/
[11:12] <bob_spencer> rusty, I have it here, but will push in about 10mins
[11:13] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: that'd be wonderfully splendid.
[11:16] <asac> bob_spencer: mdz right ... flashplugin-nonfree gets md5sum errors at them moment. adobe pushed a new release under same filename on jul 10 ... unfortunately, mirrors are not yet completely synched so we still get two checksums as of yesterday.
[11:17] <jlvillal> see bob_spencer it isn't my fault! ;)
[11:17] <jlvillal> I just mirror stuff from osuosl.org on an hourly basis.
[11:19] <asac> so if someone can get a clue into adobe ... they should just include a minor version in their filename and at best keep their old relesaes online as well :)
[11:19] <Mithrandir> close-app-plugin.c: In function 'show_close_button':
[11:19] <Mithrandir> close-app-plugin.c:38: error: 'HDWMWindow' undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:19] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: ^^ ; marquee-plugins FTBFS
[11:19] <Mithrandir> (fails to build from source; sorry)
[11:19] <asac> but i doubt that there is any hope :(
[11:19] <bob_spencer> Mithrandir, yeah, sounds like hildon issue
[11:20] <Mithrandir> bob_spencer: as in, what needs updating?
[11:20] <bob_spencer> we need a newer hildon-desktop which supports HDWMWindow (instead of the older HDWMWatchedWindow, er somthing)
[11:20] <Mithrandir> ahkay.
[11:20] <bob_spencer> I'll get to it shortly
[11:21] <Mithrandir> the build depends should be bumped to depend on the correct version then
[11:21] <bob_spencer> ah, note taken
[11:21] <bob_spencer> thanks
[11:23] <HappyCamp-John_> So how many ubuntu-mobile people will becoming to Portland for Ubuntu Live?  Since a few us already live there :)
[11:26] <Mithrandir> I'm not sure if we're going to have any mobile people there.
[11:26] <HappyCamp-John_> Too bad, might have been nice to meet some of the people.
[11:30] <HappyCamp-John_> rusty: If you have any comments on the changes to project builder, let me know :)  Feel free to fix anything I messed up.
[11:30] <HappyCamp-John_> jacob!!!
[11:30] <jacob> HappyCamp-John, hi
[11:30] <HappyCamp-John_> How's it going :)  Did you enjoy your time at the Chicago airport?? :)
[11:30] <HappyCamp-John_> Margie told me you got stuck there for awhile.
[11:31] <jacob> HappyCamp-John, that is the best time of my life
[11:31] <HappyCamp-John_> LOL
[11:31] <HappyCamp-John_> you should have got that visa sooner.  Or got your citizenship ;)
[11:31] <jacob> HappyCamp-John, the good news is i am going through to Chicago again
[11:32] <HappyCamp-John_> Well we had a semi-heat wave while you have been gone.  had some thunder and lightning tonight, not bad though.
[11:32] <HappyCamp-John_> Just unusual.
[11:32] <HappyCamp-John_> Oh, by the way Yixiong is no a dad, if you didn't know.
[11:32] <HappyCamp-John_> s/no/now/
[11:33] <jacob> hate to miss that, london is in the 50-60s, people wear leather jacket
[11:34] <HappyCamp-John_> I think I'm babbling, must be the sleep deprivation.  2:30am here :(  Hope you are enjoying London.
[11:37] <rusty> Mithrandir,  git clone rsync://moblin.org/repos/projects/hildon-desktop.git/
[11:59] <bspencer> rusty, pin
[11:59] <bspencer> g
[11:59] <bspencer> rusty, I checked in the .fla file
[12:00] <bspencer> we tried to build the flash for version 7, which might have a chance with gnash, but it complained
[12:00] <bspencer> jeremy will look at it some more tomorrow.
[12:00] <bspencer> but if ken has time he could take a crack at it too.
[12:00] <rusty> cool
[12:01] <bspencer> currently the build server seems to be down whihc is holding me up to see if the changes work
[12:01] <bspencer> btw, the latest .fla will not work with mas
[12:01] <bspencer> small protocol changes
[12:01] <bspencer> that jason made and caused bugs, so I didn't update.
[12:01] <bspencer> but I only have his latest .fla source.
[12:01] <bspencer> fyi
[12:23] <bspencer> rusty, I'm looking at bazaar and moblin hildon-desktop and not seeing any diffs
[12:24] <bspencer> rusty, not sure what to tell you about the build failure in marquee.  It seems the two hildon desktops are the same or I am not able to decipher
[12:25] <bspencer> rusty, do you need anything else before I take off?
[12:25] <bspencer> rusty, (btw, do you want us to go through the whole website and change "project-builder" to moblin image creator?  And also rename the program to "image-creator" ?
[12:33] <rusty> bspencer, sorry... just now catching up
[12:34] <rusty> bspencer, yea, i think we need to updated the naming in moblin to moblin-image-creator, where the program is called image-creator
[12:38] <rusty> bspencer, you still around?
[12:39] <rusty> i don't see the .fla in the mobile-basic-flash package?
[01:39] <Mithrandir> rusty: http://standards.freedesktop.org/xembed-spec/xembed-spec-0.5.html
[03:50] <agoliveira> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bryce/
[03:59] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/mccaslin_samsungq1ultra/current/
[04:14] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: yay you!
[04:47] <agoliveira> My Q1 just arrived in Brazil as well. Il be able to start tinker with the applications on the real device as soon as it gets home which should be by wednesday.
[05:02] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: when would be a good time of day to cron that?
[05:21] <Mithrandir> cjwatson: 42 minutes past noon?
[05:41] <cjwatson> Mithrandir: done