[06:19] <flxfoo> Hi all, (me again)
[06:19] <flxfoo> From rackspace: Juju is generating the build request with the flavor ID of 5, but it is also using "block device v2" syntax, which is not supported on the Standard flavor. I recommend that you file a bug on Juju's launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju ). Unfortunately, we are unable to support 3rd-party clients such as juju.
[06:19] <flxfoo> should I file a bug?
[06:22] <babbageclunk> flxfoo: yes please! Then we can prioritise and track fixing it.
[06:28] <flxfoo> babbageclunk: ok
[08:27] <stickupkid_> manadart, ping if you have _any_ free time today
[08:28] <manadart> stickupkid_: Got some time now.
[08:29] <stickupkid_> manadart, daily
[09:50] <flxfoo> ok, I manage to pass most of the errors... I have one left , like juju aborts because he reaches max_duration as follow
[09:50] <flxfoo> ERROR failed to bootstrap model: cannot start bootstrap instance: cannot run instance: max duration exceeded: instance "65d6ebb6-4c9d-47d5-adf2-d5812ec8bfe9" has status BUILD
[09:51] <flxfoo> is there a way to change that `max_duration_exceeded`?
[10:47] <stickupkid_> flxfoo, so I'm not sure - hml, might be more knowledgable, I presume rackspace/openstack might be worth googling here.
[12:02] <timClicks> flxfoo: it's possible to add a bootstrap-timeout, e.g. "juju bootstrap --config bootstrap-timeout=900 ..."
[15:03] <achilleasa> stickupkid_: or hml backport of the zones-with-spaces PR + extra fix for instance-types https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11511
[15:03] <hml> achilleasa:  looking
[15:03] <achilleasa> ^ once landed I will need to forward merge 2.7 -> develop
[16:09] <achilleasa> stickupkid_: fixed the typo in the alias expansion and also addressed some extra ineffassign warning in a separate commit. Can you take a look while the linters are running?
[16:12] <stickupkid_> achilleasa, checking now
[16:26] <stickupkid_> achilleasa, we skip some
[16:27] <stickupkid_> goimports not found, goimports static analysis disabled
[16:27] <stickupkid_> unconvert not found, unconvert static analysis disabled
[16:27] <stickupkid_> ineffassign not found, ineffassign static analysis disabled
[16:27] <achilleasa> we should also turn on the unused one... lot's of dead code that can be cleaned up
[16:27] <hml> stickupkid_: must be the github actions
[16:27] <stickupkid_> yeah
[16:27] <stickupkid_> I'll do it tomorrow
[16:27] <stickupkid_> coming to my EOD


[20:27] <LordDragon> hey all. so im installing and it gives me the option of enabling "MythTV Service" which talks about connecting to mythtv from remote machines
[20:28] <LordDragon> my question is, by remote, do they mean "via WAN/internet" ? or is that service also needed to connect locally over LAN ?
[20:37] <LordDragon> guess no one is around
[21:31] <Jay2k1> LordDragon: i'm not completely sure but i think LAN as well as WAN
[21:32] <Jay2k1> often this means should it listen on network interface or not
[21:33] <LordDragon> right. cuz i DO want to be able to access it via my home network, but i DONT want any servers exposed to the internet via my home IP address
[21:35] <Jay2k1> well, at least for IPv4 you're most probably behind NAT so without port forwarding the box isn't accessible from the internet anyway
[21:36] <Jay2k1> but i guess "remote machines" means "machines other than the local machine myth is running on"
[21:37] <LordDragon> hmm. so if i DONT enable the mythtv service, will i be able to access the backend from other computers on my LAN ?
[21:37] <Jay2k1> i'd say no
[21:37] <LordDragon> ok. ill enable it then
[21:37] <LordDragon> thanks
[21:38] <Jay2k1> i mean you'll be able to access mythweb and such
[21:38] <Jay2k1> but if you plan to have separate frontends for example, you'll need to turn that on
[21:38] <Jay2k1> that is my understanding
[21:38] <LordDragon> man. ive been using this ancient macmini as my backend/frontend
[21:38] <LordDragon> like a dvr
[21:39] <LordDragon> but its just slow and video stutters etc
[21:39] <LordDragon> i was looking into buying a NUC to do it instead
[21:39] <LordDragon> then i called cable company and asked how much for an extra DVR. they want another 20 bucks a month. screw that lol
[21:40] <LordDragon> the NUC would pay for itself in 10 months at that rate
[21:40] <Jay2k1> yeah. plus you probably can't fast forward on that etc
[21:40] <Jay2k1> and the UI is probably crap
[21:40] <LordDragon> i wish the keys made more sense in mythtv frontend though
[21:41] <LordDragon> enter key or spacebar in the guide should watch that channel live
[21:41] <Jay2k1> you can redefine keybindings
[21:41] <LordDragon> but it brings up a menu instead, and that menu doesnt even give you an option to watch live tv
[21:41] <LordDragon> yeah i tried figuring that out but its all convoluted and i didnt have much luck
[21:42] <Jay2k1> mine's a bit bigger http://s.jay2k1.com/k8O6.png
[21:43] <Jay2k1> i don't use a keyboard, just a remote
[21:45] <LordDragon> nice. i was looking into building a little mini ITX build computer or something. but its much cheaper to get a NUC. if i was gonna use it for other stuff, id go the PC route. but all it needs to do is record shows from my hdhomerun and play live tv on my 40 inch tv
[21:45] <LordDragon> and nuc should be powerful enough for that
[21:45] <Jay2k1> i guess
[21:45] <LordDragon> you guess?
[21:46] <Jay2k1> i have no idea ;)
[21:46] <Jay2k1> i've only ever used mythtv on that box
[21:47] <Jay2k1> the cpu was too slow for fullhd playback, but i put a passive 20 bucks nvidia gpu in it so i can use VDPAU
[21:47] <Jay2k1> i'm sure you'll find something when you google mythtv and nuc
[21:48] <LordDragon> i use OpenGL Slim mode on this macmini
[21:50] <LordDragon> whats the general rule of thumb for how much you can record on a given hdd?
[21:50] <Jay2k1> umm
[21:50] <Jay2k1> depends on the resolution
[21:51] <Jay2k1> so this is all SD via DVB-C http://s.jay2k1.com/m4tO.png
[21:52] <LordDragon> ok. for me it's mpeg2 HD at either 1080i or 720p
[21:52] <Jay2k1> here we have 720p http://s.jay2k1.com/7tPz.png
[21:52] <Jay2k1> "std" is hour if that's not clear
[21:55] <Jay2k1> i have a 3TB HDD inside the HTPC but if you just want to record some shows and then watch and delete them you won't need as much
[21:55] <LordDragon> looks roughly like 4gb per hour
[21:55] <Jay2k1> the first one was 5.4GB/h
[21:56] <Jay2k1> it depends
[21:56] <Jay2k1> things like compression of the stream, audio streams and such
[21:56] <LordDragon> i have a 250gb ssd. just wondering if that would be enough. a 1tb 2.5inch hdd is like 60 bucks
[21:58] <Jay2k1> you don't have to lose much
[21:59] <LordDragon> what do u mean?
[21:59] <Jay2k1> if you'll notice that it's always at its limit and you need more space, you can go usb drive, NAS, or just replace the SSD by something bigger
[21:59] <LordDragon> true
[21:59] <Jay2k1> by usb drive i mean external HDD btw
[21:59] <LordDragon> i could start out with the ssd and upgrade later if i can afford a bigger drive
[21:59] <Jay2k1> yes


[07:56] <alan_g> duflu: thanks for doing the 0.27 admin
[07:57] <duflu> alan_g, np, otp (aged care :P)
[09:06] <xnox> alan_g, all migrated \o/
[09:06] <alan_g> xnox: yes, thanks for all the help yesterday!


[05:32] <codygarver> darkxst, do you have any leads about this bug? a patch or anything? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1292398
[05:34] <codygarver> at elementary OS we are getting hammered with reports about it, rightfully so
[05:42] <codygarver> the upstream bug report (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694761) suggests 'gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xrandr default-monitors-setup do-nothing'
[05:53] <codygarver> ricotz, fancy meeting you here
[05:57] <codygarver> what I'm trying to figure out now is if we want do-nothing or follow-lid, I think I'm just gonna have to be not lazy and unpack my laptop to test this
[07:41] <darkxst> codygarver, what version of gnome-settings-daemon are you using?
[07:57] <codygarver> darkxst, ok I just tested the gsettings change and nothing improved, <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu11.2
[08:18] <darkxst> codygarver, 3.8 still uses gnome-desktop to handle xrandr stuff, though g-s-d may load the monitors.xml config file
[08:18] <darkxst> anyway been quite a while since I played with such old code, and I don't have a quick fix for that bug
[08:19] <darkxst> we are now onto 3.12 where monitor config is handled by mutter
[08:19] <codygarver> darkxst, I see it's attached to your 14.04.1, are you planning on submitting a patch to ubuntu or Won't Fix?
[08:20] <codygarver> we use mutter 3.12 but g-s-d 3.8
[08:32] <codygarver> or are you saying you use the stuff in the gnome3 staging ppa?
[08:32] <codygarver> I wonder if we could succeed with that
[08:32] <codygarver> cherrypick that g-s-d
[08:36] <codygarver> has a lot of other dependencies that also need to be cherrypicked, a lot of overhead to fix this one bug, may not be feasible for us :(
[08:53] <darkxst> codygarver, utopic is shipping 3.12 of most of the core GNOME stuff
[08:53] <darkxst> mutter 3.12 with g-s-d 3.8 is likely your problem though
[08:54] <darkxst> you end up with both mutter and g-s-d trying to control monitor config
[08:55] <darkxst> if you can update to gnome-desktop 3.12, then probably best to try with g-s-d/g-c-c 3.12 also
[08:58] <codygarver> darkxst, thanks, it turns out r*c*tz was already a few steps ahead of me, he has some backports available. Although they are current broken :P
[09:00] <darkxst> codygarver, pretty sure that is not how you spell it!
[09:01] <codygarver> we do that at elementary to avoid pinging him because he's in every chatroom on the internet and should only alert him when we really need his attention, because it's splintered
[09:04] <darkxst> ok
[10:33] <darkxst> Noskcaj, why were there string changes in your ubiquity-slideshow MP?
[12:02] <l3on> hello! .. I have a patch for Mutter to set the right window shadows for Ambiance and Radiance themes .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8614197/plain/
[12:02] <l3on> it can be reviewed ?
[12:02] <l3on> values come from ubuntu-themes/**/unity.css
[13:42] <LinDol> hi all
[19:04] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Did it? i just copied in the stuff you sent me
[21:17] <darkxst> Noskcaj, ok alfredo must have made them then