[19:22] <usr13> jose: That's ok..   What you need is a wifi router that has the capabilites for segregating network connections.
[19:23] <huckleberry> aaron_: if you remove all the X stuff (X = grphic server) you will have command line only - that is the very minimal you can get. the you install the DE you like again, and you're good
[19:23] <jose> usr13: got it. Thanks!
[19:23] <aaron_> huckleberry, i am confused i also install the gnome shell
[19:23] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok, let us clarify things: you want to go back to normal, right?
[19:23] <usr13> jose: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Tutorials
[19:24] <aaron_> huckleberry, yes
[19:25] <vidarne> if you ahve 2 lan cards is it only one of them so shall have gatway in /etc/network/interface file ?
[19:26] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok, there are tree ways you can do that. 1) reinstall - the easy way, but you won't learn anything and there is no pain in it, so it is not fun either :P 2) start to remove package by package until you have what you want - this might take some time 3) throw away all DEs - everthing. you will end up with command line. then you type "sudo apt-get install the-desktop-you-want" and you're set
[19:27] <aaron_> huckleberry, i will go with number 1
[19:27] <aaron_> :D
[19:27] <huckleberry> aaron_: ok :)
[19:27] <aaron_> huckleberry, i've experienced pain
[19:27] <mudkip908> pain is fun
[19:27] <tmmunq> yeah, you can do a minimal install. best way to go
[19:27] <usr13> vidarne: Please restate your question.
[19:27] <aaron_> i laugh when i pain
[19:27] <aaron_> pain is funny
[19:28] <aaron_> i want to reinstall the gnome DE
[19:28] <huckleberry> aaron_: to be honest
[19:28] <aaron_> how can i do that
[19:28] <huckleberry> aaron_: since you choose to reinstall you have nothing to lose
[19:29] <tmmunq> gnome-shell? good question, whats the meta-package for that?
[19:29] <huckleberry> aaron_: take 30 minutes and reomve all kind of packeges, maybe you are lucky :P
[19:29] <vidarne> when you ahve 2 network card on same subnet <IP_ADDRESS> is it only one of the cards so shall have set gatways in /etc/networking/interface  or both of them ?
[19:29] <huckleberry> aaron_: so there is at least some fun it ;)
[19:29] <X-Sleepy-X> !nounity
[19:30] <honestly> I have ubuntu 12.04.2 with (as far as I know) normal settings. But one thing in my sources doesn't update, here's a paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5933858/. I checked around and couldn't find out how to fix that, none of the things I found seemed to apply. anyone got a tip?
[19:30] <usr13> vidarne: What is your end goal?  (What exactly are you trying to do?)
[19:31] <vidarne> its only for trying to understand bether networking atm, before i start to try seting up one lan card <IP_ADDRESS> to go throu a vpn (tun0)
[19:33] <usr13> honestly: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/940825
[19:33] <daftykins> vidarne: i think NIC bonding would work differently than just having two interfaces on the same network
[19:35] <honestly> usr13: I get a 404, not 406, so I don't think that's it
[19:35] <p0wn3d> NIC bonding has two modes in Linux. failover and active/passive
[19:36] <karoly> Hello world!
[19:36] <guest_01> a-hoy-hoy
[19:37] <usr13> honestly: Can you ping de.archive.ubuntu.com from this computer?
[19:37] <usr13> honestly: ping -c3 de.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <X-Sleepy-X> honestly: try changing de.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com
[19:37] <honestly> usr13: yes, it works fine
[19:37] <honestly> There is a Packages.gz where apt is looking for /Packages
[19:38] <nogood> exit
[19:38] <usr13> honestly: As X-Sleepy-X suggests change to main ubuntu archive and try again.
[19:39] <guest_01> anyone know if wayland and mir will continue to support x forwarding. all the answer i found were vague.
[19:39] <usr13> honestly: "Changed to the main Ubuntu repo, then ran 'apt-get update'   (From https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/940825 )
[19:43] <honestly> hmm, that did it
[19:43] <honestly> thanks!
[19:46] <tubbo> is there a way to "give" some user access to `shutdown -h now` the machine?
[19:46] <tubbo> or is that purely a root/sudo-level thing?
[19:46] <genii> tubbo: You could add a specific line in sudoers file just for it
[19:46] <tubbo> ah ok
[19:46] <Pumpkin-> you can give people access to run arbitary commands as arbitary users via sudo config
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> tubbo  command: visudo
[19:47] <motaka2> hello is there any reason to use mint ?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  yes: if you prefer it
[19:47] <Okitain> Hi guys. My touchpad doesn't work after an upgrade and erasing my xorg.conf for technical reasons. I can't find it in lspci/lsusb, and synaptik doesn't find it either. In Mageia that I run in dualboot, it works fine. What can the issue be?
[19:48] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: I use u12.04, it runs slow and I hear strange voices from hard disk, Should I switch to mint?
[19:48] <tubbo> genii: oh yeah, there we go
[19:48] <tubbo> thanks man :)
[19:49] <motaka2> how can I uninstall jedit ?
[19:49] <mumpitze1> apt-get remove jedit. provided you have it installed via apt
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  if you hear strange voices, it's not technical but mental
[19:50] <brandon_> Hiya guys
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  use a live usb stick to try mint, see if you like it more
[19:50] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: how can I uninstall jedit, I want to install the new version
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> !mint
[19:50] <mumpitze1> motaka2: how did you install jedit?
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  how you would install any other program, if it's in the repos
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> ah, uninstall
[19:51]  * genii slides tubbo a coffee
[19:51] <timss> Hi. Regarding the compromised forums - would it be possible to get sent the hash/salt to the registered email so I could check which password I used? I haven't logged in for ages so I can't remember/I haven't got my password remembered by Lastpass. If this isn't the right channel please do share a relevant email or so that I could use.
[19:51] <X-Sleepy-X> !uninstall
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> timss, nope
[19:52] <reisio> seriously
[19:52] <motaka2> mumpitze1: sudo apt-get install jedit
[19:52] <motaka2> but I dont know how to remove it
[19:52] <timss> It's frustrating because I have no idea if I used the default generated password or some old (shitty) password..
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  replace install with purge
[19:52] <motaka2> ok thank you
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !language > tomaw
[19:53] <mumpitze1> motaka2: then you simply apt-get install jedit  to get the new version of this program if a newer one is actually available in the repos. no need to uninstall anything
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> !language > timss
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> sorry tomaw
[19:53] <tomaw> I'll live
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[19:54]  * ikonia mode +q tomaw@freenode/staff/tomaw
[19:54] <reisio> heh
[19:54]  * X-Sleepy-X smiles to what just happend
[19:55] <guest_01> anyone know why amarok isnt playing when a song is double clicked. goes to the playlist but you gotta hit play
[19:55] <Serpiente> hey, I know that I can run additional scripts on login if I place them in /etc/ssh/sshrc is there a pendant for logout/ disconnect?
[19:55] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: mumpitze1 dont you know why my ubuntu runs slow? my pc is fast on windows
[19:57] <motaka2> whats the best place to install manually downloaded aps ?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  these are some tricks I picked up in this channel http://ubuntuone.com/7D0HdIh1JYCAMwAFds8h1i
[19:58] <ikonia> motaka2: which apps? from where ?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, you have checked the repos first before downloading?
[19:58] <jjavaholic> so I have unplugged the Sata External HD and plugged it into a system Sata port and was able to read sata Drive but still can't read via  USB interface External Unit what do I need to check now?
[19:58] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: careful putting /tmp in ram and not setting a limit on the size, it can kill your box
[19:59] <Okitain> jjavaholic: check the output of lsusb and ls /dev/ |grep sd
[19:59] <genii> motaka2: In the /usr/local   hierarchy isn't bad. Like /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin ... and so on
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> jjavaholic, does it show in sudo fdisk -l
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  thank you for the tip
[19:59] <motaka2> ikonia: new version of jedit
[20:00] <ikonia> motaka2: where did you get it from ? what's wrong with the version in the ubuntu repo ?
[20:00] <motaka2> ikonia: I got the jar file from jedit website
[20:00] <jjavaholic> it doesn't show up in fdisk -l
[20:00] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: just appending something like size=128M or size=1G to limit it so it can't eat your ram can be more useful to keep some limits in place,
[20:00] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: try finding it in the repo first by running: apt-cache search jedit
[20:01] <ikonia> motaka2: ok, so it's a jar file, you can put it anywhere you want as it just matters where your CLASSPATH is setup
[20:01] <jjavaholic> lsusb: http://pastebin.com/5LpjDzE4
[20:01] <kostkon> motaka2, its download page offers a debian package. download that and double click on it
[20:01] <motaka2> wilee-nilee: I dont know what a repository is, Once I intalled gedit via sudo apt-get install gedit and it was version 4 and I need version five so I downloaded the jar file from it's website
[20:02] <kostkon> motaka2, gedit or jedit?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> motaka2, All or most OS call a repository for updates and installs
[20:02] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:03] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: in 13.04 jedit is 5.0 i think
[20:03] <jjavaholic> and ls /dev/ | grep sd results in this: http://pastebin.com/0MD4FUs9
[20:03] <kostkon> motaka2, just download the debian file. easier than using the java based installer
[20:03] <jjavaholic> three partitions on main OS drive. sda
[20:04] <motaka2> kostkon: I cant find the debian file
[20:05] <motaka2> kostkon: jEdit
[20:05] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: I am using 12.04
[20:06] <kostkon> motaka2, here's the file http://sourceforge.net/projects/jedit/files/jedit/5.1.0/jedit_5.1.0_all.deb/download
[20:06] <kostkon> motaka2, from here http://jedit.org/index.php?page=download&platform=unix#option_two
[20:06] <goddard> i am trying to change apache document route for default to /home/goddard/Web/
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: what does "apt-cache policy jedit" give you?
[20:06] <goddard> but i am getting 403 error
[20:07] <kostkon> !version jedit
[20:07] <kostkon> :/
[20:07] <nantou> does starting an app with >>>http_proxy=";"<<< render useless the possible edits to /etc/environment ?
[20:07] <kostkon> !find jedit raring
[20:07] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?
[20:07] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: what should I do next to this?  http://codepaste.net/e4zk19
[20:07] <motaka2> kostkon: thank you
[20:08] <kostkon> motaka2, np
[20:08] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: run: apt-cache policy jedit" give you?
[20:09] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: if apt-cache policy jedit gives you a version number of 5 then you just need to run sudo apt-get install jedit
[20:09] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: http://codepaste.net/mh91ih
[20:10] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I see, never mind then.. :)
[20:10] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: thanks any way I learnt something new in this world of linux at least
[20:12] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I would probably go with option number 2 on this page http://www.jedit.org/index.php?page=download just in order to recieve updates on jedit through sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:14] <motaka2> kostkon: !version doesnt work
[20:15] <kostkon> motaka2, !version is only for the bot here
[20:15] <kostkon> e.g.
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> !version
[20:15] <kostkon> yeap
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[20:18] <Serp3nt> .
[20:19] <Serp3nt> any1 there?
[20:19] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Serp3nt
[20:19] <Serp3nt> k fine
[20:19] <Serp3nt> does anybody know how to leave this channel?
[20:20] <gordonjcp> you can't
[20:20] <Serp3nt> :(
[20:20] <hodapp> use /part or /close
[20:20] <gordonjcp> once you've joined the channel it's impossible to leave
[20:20] <hodapp> forgive gordonjcp, sometimes he confuses #ubuntu with #hotelcalifornia
[20:20] <rick33> hi
[20:20] <peyam> hi
[20:21] <rick33> i have xchat-otr installed, how do i use it?
[20:21] <peyam> I dunno
[20:21] <peyam> google
[20:21] <rick33> me neither
[20:21] <rick33> i googled
[20:21] <X-Sleepy-X> preferably with a computer, i'd say
[20:22] <rick33> very useful
[20:22] <motaka2> kostkon: Ah sorry
[20:22] <motaka2> So cant anyone tell me whu my ubuntu is so slow ?
[20:22] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: Thanks for your soloution
[20:22] <motaka2> it sees to be the best
[20:22] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: yw
[20:23] <varlogtim> motaka2: What version?
[20:23] <varlogtim> post results from top -bn1 |head -n 5
[20:23] <varlogtim> motaka: "top -bn1 |head -n 5"
[20:24] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: perhaps you need to install new graphic drivers in order to make it go faster? what graphics card do you have?
[20:25] <varlogtim> Or use LXDE instead of unity
[20:25] <goddard> i tried the userdir module
[20:25] <goddard> i still get error 403
[20:25] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - Not ubuntu specific - But should my program write verbose output to STDERR or STDOUT?
[20:25] <varlogtim> My vote is STDERR
[20:26] <tjbiddle> varlogtim: May I ask why? (I'm fine with either - just want to know for future ref. on the convention)
[20:26] <varlogtim> STDOUT should be for the output of the applications purpose. Verbose logging is additional data that doesn't have anything to do with the purpose of the application.
[20:26] <tjbiddle> varlogtim: Makes perfect sense, thanks :-)
[20:27] <varlogtim> Imagine this... for a real world example...
[20:27] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: yes I think it has something to do with graphics, my graphic card is xfx 9 series
[20:27] <hodapp> stderr is for errors.
[20:27] <hodapp> verbose should be to stdout, and optional.
[20:28] <peterrooney> Logging should be to a file, progress and verbosity should be to stderr.  varlogtim hit the nail on the head.
[20:29] <hodapp> The convention with nearly every program is that stderr is for errors, not for verbose output, and that it's the user's choice, not yours, whether logging is to a file or to stdout.
[20:29] <varlogtim> It is nice to be able to do this: ./script > output_file 2>verbose_data.log
[20:29] <peterrooney> adding a verbosity option should not, for example, change pipeline behaviour.
[20:29] <pbuckley> Anyone running ubuntu 13.10 have an issue with no bass in their audio?
[20:30] <varlogtim> Say you have an application that updates a status file that something else reads from. Say it is in production and you need verbose output but without affecting the output of the script (which will break the status file) --- printing to stderr will give you the option to redirect the output...
[20:31] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: if you run: software-properties-gtk   the go to "Additional Drivers". Do you see a list of drivers to choose from?
[20:31] <varlogtim> Also, lots of apps print to stderr --- ssh for example, (I beleive) prints the password: prompt to stderr
[20:31] <pbuckley> varlogtim: if you are using passwords with ssh, it is an err ;)
[20:31] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: Should I run that in terminal
[20:31] <motaka2> ?
[20:31] <X-Sleepy-X> !13.10 | pbuckley
[20:31] <mudkip908> motaka2: terminal or alt-f2
[20:32] <tjbiddle> Thanks varlogtim, peterrooney, & hodapp :-) I think I'll lean towards stderr - I had heard verbose out put should go to that in the past, but didn't understand why.  I forgot that you use 12.04
[20:34] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: that's kind of you to care for my issue
[20:36] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: I can't recall excatly where you find it in 12.04 but perhaps you can run jockey-gtk
[20:37] <randomaussie> i seem to have broken the display drivers for my laptop's own dispolay driver while using an external video card is there a way i can make ubuntu redetect it and auto install the driver for it
[20:38] <antikythera> exit
[20:38] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: try searching in the dash for additional drivers
[20:38] <high_fiver_> randomaussie: Which model of external video card?
[20:38] <motaka2> i ran jokey.. and I see additional drivers
[20:38] <randomaussie> i'm just talking about hte screens...
[20:39] <randomaussie> the built in one wont go above 640x480
[20:40] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: you could try to install the latest version of a display driver from there if there are any display drivers showing...
[20:40] <motaka2> there are some showing and the recommended one hase a green blob on the left
[20:41] <netlar> How rolling releases for Ubuntu been shelved?
[20:41] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: i believe the green blob are for the activated ones
[20:42] <goddard> how can i change the owner of a ssytem link?
[20:42] <ikonia> goddard: system link ?
[20:43] <bekks> goddard: Whats a system link?
[20:43] <iceroot> symlink :)
[20:43] <X-Sleepy-X> !chown | goddard
[20:43] <morganhelocker> symbolic link
[20:43] <bekks> Then the answer is "no".
[20:43] <ikonia> you don't change symlinks
[20:43] <ikonia> you change the target
[20:44] <bekks> Changing the owner of a symlink is pointless, since the permissions are 0777 - always.
[20:44] <syn-ack> yep, the permission of the symlink is meaningless, its the target that matters.
[20:45] <zeest> I opened an application, it didn't show up in the bar in the right(dock? sidebar?) and I minimized the app. Since I can't see it on the sidebar, how do I restore it?
[20:45] <motaka2> X-Sleepy-X: yes thats it so I have a driver installed and yet it runs slow?
[20:45] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: Alt+Tab ?
[20:45] <auronandace> zeest: you mean left
[20:45] <zeest> auronandace: Yes, sorry
[20:45] <X-Sleepy-X> that's right...
[20:46] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: No showing up there either :/
[20:46] <X-Sleepy-X> motaka2: you probably need to reboot or log out and back in again
[20:48] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: if you open gnome-system-monitor can you find the program running there?
[20:49] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: Yes
[20:49] <zeest> X-Sleepy-X: I killed it and opened again, now it is running fine, and is in the sidebar. Thanks
[20:49] <zeest> What is that bar called BTW?
[20:50] <X-Sleepy-X> zeest: :)
[20:50] <syn-ack> the unity dock?
[20:50] <zeest> syn-ack: Probably, thanks
[20:50] <robertzaccour> What's a good network manager for Ubuntu?
[20:50] <bertogatti> hi all, my startup applications as defined in gnome-session-properties don't seem to work (they work in kde and xfce)
[20:50] <bekks> robertzaccour: The already installed Network-Manager.
[20:50] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: Network Manager.
[20:51] <varlogtim> robertzaccour wicd --- I have been using that and love it.
[20:51] <bekks> robertzaccour: Whats wrong with NM for you? :)
[20:51] <varlogtim> I had issues with Network Manager
[20:52] <varlogtim> It was situation on a MacBook Pro
[20:53] <robertzaccour> bekks: I installed Mate on top of Ubuntu minimal install, doesn't appear to be any network apps there by default.
[20:53] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: can you give an example?
[20:53] <bekks> robertzaccour: Just install ubuntu-desktop then.
[20:53] <robertzaccour> bekks: uh no
[20:53] <robertzaccour> network-manager not available?
[20:53] <robertzaccour> I know its installed
[20:53] <bertogatti> ok while running gnome-3, i have the startup applications set to start guake when i log in
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: this is because you are doing a minimal install
[20:54] <bertogatti> however this doesn't happen in gnome3 but works in other environments
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: this is why I suggested doing a standard install and removing what you don't need
[20:54] <robertzaccour> ikonia: any recommendations for a network manager?
[20:54] <ikonia> the mate PPA will not have all the dependencies
[20:54] <ikonia> robertzaccour: network-manager is the standard one
[20:54] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I'm learning, I'll feel ahead once I got it all here :)
[20:54] <bekks> robertzaccour: You already asked that and you already got your answers :)
[20:55] <robertzaccour> bekks: And I already said it says not available
[20:55] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you're not really learning though, you're making it hard for yourself
[20:55] <robertzaccour> ikonia: where are all the network dependencies?
[20:55] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what do you mean "where are they" ?
[20:55] <robertzaccour> ikonia: Yes, I'm learning. I've learned a lot today. Who are you to assume what I haven't learned?
[20:56] <robertzaccour> ikonia: you said the dependencies aren't there. Where are they?
[20:56] <ikonia> robertzaccour: because you're asking the same style questions from earlier and hitting the issues I warned you of
[20:56] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: hang on, i got it working but im looking for how i did it
[20:56] <ikonia> robertzaccour: so I can only assume you've not grasped/learnt what I was trying to explain earlier
[20:56] <robertzaccour> ikonia: And I'm learning in the process
[20:56] <bertogatti> S-Sleepy-X: thanks
[20:57] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I have wired internet working just fine, I just need to install an app so I can set up my router.
[20:57] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what has your router got to do with an application ?? it's an external device
[20:57] <bekks> robertzaccour: You dont need any app to setup your router besides a browser to access the web interface,
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I just need a network app that will load. recommend any besides network-manager and wicd?
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you don't need a network app to fix your router
[20:58] <sideone> im trying to find a string of *cnn.com/????/* can anyone help me correct for the proper regex?
[20:58] <bekks> robertzaccour: You nheed a browser.
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: My router is fine, I just need to connect to it.
[20:58] <ravster> hey all.
[20:58] <robertzaccour> bekks: I have a browser
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: you said you have, you've got wired networking working
[20:58] <ikonia> robertzaccour: so you're already connected
[20:58] <ravster> I can't find grub.cfg in my boot directory.  Any idea where it might be?
[20:58] <robertzaccour> ikonia: wired yes, but I need to set up wireless
[20:59] <ravster> its a UEFI install
[20:59] <ikonia> robertzaccour: well, I'd use network-manager, is the standard,
[20:59] <robertzaccour> ikonia: correction: I need a drop-down list to select my router.
[20:59] <ravster> if that changes anything.
[20:59] <robertzaccour> ikonia: network-manager network-manager: command not found
[20:59] <ikonia> robertzaccour: it's not installed then
[21:00] <robertzaccour> ikonia: its already the newest version
[21:00] <robertzaccour> according to terminal
[21:00] <ikonia> robertzaccour: how can it be, if it's not found
[21:00] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I dunno, but that's what its telling me
[21:01] <ikonia> robertzaccour: what's telling you ?
[21:01] <robertzaccour> ikonia: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934135/
[21:02] <ikonia> ahhh I see you're trying to laynch it from the command line
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: i believe i did something like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/136559/guake-doesnt-start-when-session-starts
[21:02] <robertzaccour> ikonia: I'm installing network-config to see how it goes
[21:02] <ikonia> robertzaccour: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[21:02] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: I'll check it out thank a lot
[21:04] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[21:04] <islon> so, i'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 in my wife's pc from an usb. I'm getting a "Kernel panic - not syncing: no init found. Try passing init=option to kernel." every time i try booting from the usb. I pressed tab for init options and it shows "/casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/pressed/ubuntu.seed ..." any idea or tips?
[21:05] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: it works
[21:05] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: Also, I changed the line <property name="gravity">static</property> into <property name="gravity">north</property> in this file /usr/share/guake/guake.glade
[21:05] <daftykins> islon: how did you make the flash drive?
[21:06] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: That will fix the gape in the top
[21:06] <crippledmonk> did you make the install usb on a linux system....
[21:07] <islon> daftykins: i downloaded a usb maker from pendrivelinux.com for windows
[21:07] <bekks> islon: How did you create the usb?
[21:07] <robertzaccour> thanks ikonia
[21:07] <reisio> islon: for what?
[21:07] <islon> daftykins: clicked usb-creators -> liveusb install
[21:08] <crippledmonk> islon: I've had issues with unetbootin a time or two. I've found "for me" the dd method pretty much always works. All my machines are linux however.
[21:08] <joshu> where is the config file that store startup applications  set by System > Preference > Startup Applications,
[21:08] <robertzaccour> still not coming up :(
[21:08] <reisio> yeah, dd ftw, it's just trickier :p
[21:08] <daftykins> islon: can you verify your image download by hashing it? could be worth wiping the drive then giving it another try
[21:08] <reisio> which is funny, you'd think those creators would just be dd frontends :p
[21:08] <ikonia> stree: what repo are you using
[21:08] <bertogatti> X-Sleepy-X: all good now, saves me the trouble of manually opening every time
[21:09] <X-Sleepy-X> bertogatti: :)
[21:09] <islon> daftykins: hmm indeed should have checked the hash, will reboot on windows and do that and maybe download some other pendrive creator
[21:10] <crippledmonk> dd if=NAME_OF_YOUR_IMAGE.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M     where X in the sdX is your drive. it's usually sdc or sdb and you will most likely need to run it in the terminal with sudo preceeding.
[21:10] <rodrigo91> anyone know how i could extra all the data off gb filesystem ot a live cd?
[21:10] <robertzaccour> its weird that network manager still isn't opening.
[21:10] <reisio> rodrigo91: eh?
[21:10] <rodrigo91> extract*
[21:11] <rodrigo91> how could i extract all my data from one hard drive to put on a live cd
[21:11] <daftykins> islon: pendrivelinux.com 's 'universal usb installer' might be ok
[21:11] <robertzaccour> network-manager and wicd won't open :(
[21:11] <reisio> rodrigo91: what for
[21:11] <rodrigo91> how can i add more space to the live cd
[21:11] <reisio> rodrigo91: is it a USB?
[21:12] <bekks> rodrigo91: You cant add more space to a live cd.
[21:12] <rodrigo91> so what do i do
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> but you can build your own live cd
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> and put the content you want on it
[21:12] <rodrigo91> i aint got a a usb
[21:12] <sere> anyone know of any bugs with granule .. it just closes for no reason when i try to load a deck...no error anywhere..not sure why
[21:12] <islon> daftykins: yeah that's what i normally use, i think she downloaded the first exe she saw that made sense...
[21:12] <bekks> rodrigo91: Just tell us about your actual problem.
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> probably more than you really want to do -
[21:13] <X-Sleepy-X> sere: not even if you start it from the terminal?
[21:13] <rodrigo91> its started with network manager but i cant fix that
[21:13] <robertzaccour> I can't open network-manager or wicd. Any suggestions?
[21:13] <sere> X-Sleepy-X: tried that... but when it closes it logs me out of X
[21:13] <bekks> !details | rodrigo91
[21:13] <daftykins> islon: sorry i didn't see your first highlight when you said that - heh - let me know how you get on
[21:14] <X-Sleepy-X> sere: start it in screen and the use screen -r to get it back
[21:14] <rodrigo91> ok have it your way
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour try nm-applet
[21:15] <rodrigo91> i have a problem with network manager i started trying to install mifiwifi but it somwhow got corrupted and now i dont have internet for my laptop
[21:15] <robertzaccour> MonkeyDust: thanks :) now only problem is its all grayed out.
[21:15] <bekks> rodrigo91: And which problem which network manager do you have?
[21:16] <rodrigo91> from 12.04
[21:16] <bekks> rodrigo91: And whats the problem with network manager?
[21:16] <sere> X-Sleepy-X: ok i will try that..thanks alot
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  try ifup eth0 or eth1
[21:16] <rodrigo91> its just wont show up at all i dont know whats wrong
[21:16] <robertzaccour> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5934182/
[21:17] <bekks> rodrigo91: Did you checked wether it is installed?
[21:17] <robertzaccour> MonkeyDust: huh?
[21:17] <rodrigo91> yes i tried reinstalling it to
[21:17] <rodrigo91> nothing helped
[21:17] <PostfixHelp> hello
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> robertzaccour  how come it's so troublesome, it should work out of the box
[21:17] <bekks> rodrigo91: Are you able to start it from command line?
[21:18] <robertzaccour> I'm gonna try rebooting
[21:18] <rodrigo91> i havent tried that
[21:18] <rodrigo91> how does that go
[21:18] <bekks> rodrigo91: run nm-applet from the command line.
[21:18] <PostfixHelp> I need some help with postfix.
[21:19] <Fishscene> Is there a channel for the Ubuntu Edge Phone?
[21:19] <ikonia> #ubuntu-touch
[21:19] <X-Sleepy-X> !details | PostfixHelp
[21:19] <reisio> PostfixHelp: but your nick...
[21:19] <Fishscene> Thank you, ikonia
[21:20] <rodrigo91> im on a live cd plus it would take time to get to the real thing
[21:20] <PostfixHelp> I just installed it, and everything seems fine, but I've had a hard time finding a way to read incoming mail/send it.
[21:20] <PostfixHelp> From what I understand, you use the mail command?
[21:20] <bekks> PostfixHelp: Did you configure postfix?
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> yeah.
[21:21] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: you need an mail client to send mail / read mail
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> what is a good one.
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> it only needs to be local
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> I don't need IMAP/POP3
[21:21] <PostfixHelp> *what is a good one?
[21:21] <bekks> PostfixHelp: You need IMAP/POP3 for reading/sending email.
[21:22] <X-Sleepy-X> !thunderbird
[21:22] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: are you sending mail to real system users on your mail server ?
[21:22] <PostfixHelp> yeah.
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> on different servers.
[21:23] <ikonia> what do mean on different servers ?
[21:23] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: on the server getting the mail, are they system users ?
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> sending to gmail addresses, etc.
[21:23] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: yes
[21:23] <ikonia> then why are you trying to read mail on your server if you're sending to gmail
[21:23] <X-Sleepy-X> telnet localhost 25 EHLO.... :)
[21:24] <ikonia> they won't be hosted/held on your server, they will be held on gmail
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> I have a local server, but I will be sending mail to other people's email addresses
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> on different servers
[21:24] <PostfixHelp> like gmail
[21:25] <bekks> PostfixHelp: So you need an email client, an IMAP/POP3 server, and your postfix server.
[21:25] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: so why are you trying to read mail on your server if you are sending it to remote servers ?
[21:25] <X-Sleepy-X> !thunderbird | Perhaps you'd like to use this client PostfixHelp
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> where does the unix mail command fit into this.
[21:26] <rodrigo91> is there any good file hosting sites
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> ?
[21:26] <bekks> PostfixHelp: Into "email client".
[21:26] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: it doens't
[21:26] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: you are sending mail to remote servers, you can't read them on your local server as they are stored remotely
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> no, but I'll be receiving mail on my local server
[21:26] <PostfixHelp> Aren't those stored locally?
[21:27] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: right, so will the email addresses be system users on your server ?
[21:27] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: yes
[21:27] <ikonia> PostfixHelp: what format have you told it to deliver in ?
[21:27] <teskitoe__> Hi, I'm on EC2 and have multiverse enabled but "sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer" still gives error "no installation candidate". Any tips?
[21:28] <rodrigo91> anybody know how i could resize a partition
[21:28] <bekks> rodrigo91: Using gparted. But you cant resize a live cd.
[21:28] <ikonia> gparted
[21:28] <islon> daftykins: it's working now, it was the usb installer. thanks for your help!
[21:28] <rodrigo91> no i mean my other patition the one that has my things in it
[21:29] <bekks> rodrigo91: Create a backup, and use gparted afterwards.
[21:29] <rodrigo91> how do i create a backup
[21:29] <peyam> use gparted in live cd if you wana change something that is alreadt mounted
[21:29] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: have you enabled the multiverse repository?
[21:29] <bekks> !backup | rodrigo91
[21:30] <PostfixHelp> ikonia: /var/mail/user
[21:30] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, yes I have in /etc/apt/sources.list (uncommented all 4 lines). I'm on ubuntu precise
[21:30] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: and you ran sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[21:31] <lxuser0713> fd
[21:31] <lxuser0713> dsf
[21:32] <lxuser0713> hey i have a problem with dm-crypt/luks. i have add a new passwort but i have not type in the right keys for my new passwort. i dont know what is the new password now and i have deleted my old passwort..... can i add a new passwort without using any luks password? im logged in right now in the system which is encrypted
[21:33] <rodrigo91> so which of those utilities do i use
[21:33] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, nope! that must be it. running now. thx
[21:33] <teskitoe__> X-Sleepy-X, that did it
[21:33] <X-Sleepy-X> teskitoe__: :)
[21:33] <daftykins> islon: no problem :) glad to hear it
[21:35] <HomelessSanta> Howdy all, by any chance does anyone know how to get the wallpaper plugin working in Compiz?!?
[21:37] <reisio> HomelessSanta: turn it ze on!
[21:38] <mojtaba> Hi, I am trying to install virtualbox, but It says "No suitable module for running kernel found
[21:38] <mojtaba> " after the installation and says fail. I am using ubuntu 13.04
[21:38] <mojtaba> Does anybody know what should I do?
[21:38] <k1l> mojtaba: make sure the right kernel headers are installed
[21:38] <mojtaba> k1l: How can I check that?
[21:39] <HomelessSanta> reisio, When it's on still doesn't change the wallpaper when changing the virtual desktop. :(
[21:39] <X-Sleepy-X> !headers | mojtaba
[21:40] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: how can I find what is my current linux-header and what should I install? (I am newbie)
[21:40] <k1l> mojtaba: "uname -a" and then look with "dpkg -l linux-headers* | grep ii
[21:40] <k1l> "
[21:41] <reisio> HomelessSanta: it's possible nautilus is controlling the desktop, you might have to disable that pref
[21:42] <mojtaba> k1l: it's current is: 3.5.0-28-generic #48-Ubuntu
[21:43] <HomelessSanta> reisio, Sounds like I'll be getting a headache in a while. lol
[21:43] <mojtaba> k1l: The problem is that, I have installed 3.8. ... before and when booting up the OS, the display is not working. (showing dots.) I am using Dell Studio 1555
[21:43] <mojtaba> k1l: Do you which one I should install?
[21:45] <k1l> mojtaba: see my second command. that will list your installed headers
[21:45] <garage00> Hi, is there a way to skip kernel update? ( i.e.  *.*.45 to *.*.49 ).   My other machine is lagging behind from unuse and I was hoping not to have to go through each update step
[21:46] <ikonia> garage00: it should just update to current
[21:46] <mojtaba> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934270/
[21:47] <mojtaba> k1l: When I boot using these ones, the display just shows some dots.
[21:47] <mojtaba> k1l: But when I use kernel 3.5, it is working normally.
[21:48] <k1l> mojtaba: that are no headers for your kernel. so install "linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic"
[21:48] <garage00> ikonia: looks like I'll have to verify that in another few weeks, the older machine is updating to *.49, but on my workstation *.51 is the latest update
[21:48] <mojtaba> k1l: could you please give me the command to install the header?
[21:48] <holstein> garage00: the different releases have different currently maintained releases
[21:49] <k1l> sudo apt-get install packagename
[21:49] <holstein> garage00: 12.04's kernel is not the same version as 13.04
[21:49] <k1l> where packagename is linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[21:49] <garage00> holstein, both machines run precise
[21:49] <holstein> garage00: when you update them, they will get the current version.. nothing about that should take a few weeks
[21:51] <thunder-storm> Hello everybody
[21:51] <mojtaba> k1l: it says: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[21:51] <mojtaba> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[21:51] <garage00> holstein: I'll check again after the update, currently running update to .49 on less updated machine
[21:51] <holstein> !headers
[21:51] <thunder-storm> How its possible to restore the mouse speed-settings in Ubuntu 12.04 to default?
[21:51] <k1l> mojtaba: use tabcompletion
[21:52] <Henix879> Real quick question: does ubuntu have drivers for this netowrk card? http://amzn.to/19y8Vzr
[21:52] <holstein> garage00: you run "sudo apt-get update" first, to refresh the cache.. then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:52] <mojtaba> k1l: it just has 3.8 in the list
[21:52] <X-Sleepy-X> -lowlatency - Linux kernel headers for version 3.8.0 on x86/x86_64
[21:52] <k1l> mojtaba: so the kernel is from an old release?
[21:53] <mojtaba> holstein: could you please give me the complete command?
[21:53] <X-Sleepy-X> :S
[21:53] <mojtaba> k1l: yes
[21:53] <mojtaba> I think
[21:53] <holstein> Henix879: ubuntu really doenst have any drivers.. the linux kernel includes drivers, and ubuntu includes installable drivers in the repos.. you can just try the live CD and see how the device works first-hand
[21:53] <holstein> mojtaba: thats it, friend
[21:53] <holstein> mojtaba: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:53] <Henix879> I'm asking if drivers are readily available for it
[21:53] <garage00> hostein: thanks, but I have no plans of using non-LTS
[21:53] <X-Sleepy-X> k1l: i don't seem to find 3.8.0-28
[21:54] <X-Sleepy-X> k1l: only -27
[21:54] <holstein> garage00: sorry, i dont recall suggesting *any* particular version
[21:54] <holstein> Henix879: and im suggesting, a live CD will tell you that
[21:54] <Henix879> Because my current network card requires me to go through hell and back just to get it functional, and I'm considering getting the one I just linked
[21:54] <mojtaba> holstein: now I am running ubuntu 13.04
[21:55] <holstein> mojtaba: as i stated, 13.04 will have different kernels than 12.04
[21:55] <garage00> holstein: sorry, but doesn't dist-upgrade upgrade to ringtail?
[21:55] <mojtaba> But the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)
[21:55] <holstein> garage00: no
[21:55] <garage00> ok
[21:55] <mojtaba> holstein: But the problem is that with new kernel my display is just showing dot dot screen. (Dell Studio 1555)
[21:56] <zykotick9> !dist-upgrade | garage00
[21:56] <holstein> garage00: dist-upgrade, which you *should* and can research before running, upgrades the packages, like you are trying to do
[21:56] <garage00> holstein: thanks, perfect definition
[21:57] <mojtaba> holstein: hello
[21:57] <brandon_> hi
[21:57] <holstein> mojtaba: if an older kernel is working, i would just use it. and keep checking back after upgrading in the future
[21:58] <reisio> hi brandon_
[21:58] <mojtaba> holstein: Will the command you told me to run remove the current kernel?
[21:58] <mojtaba> holstein: Because if it removes the current kernel, I can not restart my computer anymore. :(
[21:59] <holstein> mojtaba: you should have backups, regardless.. but i have not shared anything that will remove any packages
[21:59] <holstein> mojtaba: if you want the headers, i would run "sudo apt-get update" and refer to
[21:59] <holstein> !headers | mojtaba
[22:00] <HomelessSanta> reisio, No problem I ended up getting it to work.
[22:00] <reisio> HomelessSanta: yeah?
[22:00] <reisio> and are you going to tell the IRC log for posterity?
[22:00] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise
[22:00] <mojtaba> holstein: when I run sudo apt-get update, it says: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:00] <mojtaba> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:00] <mojtaba> "
[22:01] <holstein> !paste | mojtaba
[22:01] <mojtaba> WHAT SHOULD I DO???
[22:01] <fbdystang> mojtaba: are  you root?
[22:01] <holstein> mojtaba: read, and do what it says.. "is another process using it?".. close the other package managers
[22:01] <HomelessSanta> reisio, I don't know what you mean.
[22:02] <mojtaba> holstein: I guess I must restart the computer
[22:02] <X-Sleepy-X> mojtaba: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade and install will _not_ remove the old kernel _unless_ it says so where it promts you for "Y/n"
[22:02] <mojtaba> holstein: What do you mean by "you need the accompanying -dev packages"?
[22:02] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: Thanks
[22:02] <holstein> mojtaba: i dont recall saying that
[22:03] <mojtaba> holstein: mojtaba: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[22:03] <holstein> mojtaba: thats the bot link, friend.. you should try the first command
[22:04] <mojtaba> holstein: I should just run: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[22:04] <mojtaba> ?
[22:04] <X-Sleepy-X> mojtaba: yes
[22:04] <mojtaba> X-Sleepy-X: holstein: Thank you all. I must restart.
[22:04] <holstein> mojtaba: after running "sudo apt-get update"
[22:04] <mojtaba> holstein: sure. Thanks man
[22:05] <garage00> holstein: solved, my bad, should have ran update manually before installing the updates
[22:05] <holstein> garage00: cheers
[22:06] <rodrigo91> so what would happen if i clicked copy would it copy all my files to another partition
[22:06] <holstein> rodrigo91: in what context?
[22:07] <rodrigo91> in a save as much as i can context
[22:07] <w4pm> ive been increasingly annoyed with apt lately, it has outdated versions of most everything important
[22:07] <fbdystang> Hi, I just installed 12.04 LTS server onto a sabertooth with UEFI. I get an error"invalid arch independent ELF magic". Please advise
[22:07] <reisio> w4pm: no it hasn't
[22:07] <w4pm> you cant install vagrant, node.js, erlang, couchdb, mongodb, etc etc because apt has super outdated versions
[22:07] <holstein> rodrigo91: not following.. you are trying to make a backup?
[22:08] <reisio> w4pm: pick one and tell me which version you want
[22:08] <w4pm> the latest
[22:08] <w4pm> vagrant
[22:08] <reisio> lateset isn't a version
[22:08] <reisio> versions are made up of numbers and sometimes letters
[22:08] <w4pm> maybe i'm doing something wrong?
[22:08] <rodrigo91> no i just wanna copy it to another partition
[22:08] <holstein> w4pm: "sudo apt-get update" updates the package cache
[22:08] <reisio> w4pm: that'd be my guess
[22:09] <holstein> w4pm: if you are "annoyed" with pacagke versions, that has nothing to do with apt.. that is the sources
[22:09] <rodrigo91> holstein would that save the hassle
[22:09] <w4pm> the fact that no one is updating their sources is a bad sign
[22:09] <holstein> rodrigo91: hassle of what, friend?
[22:09] <rodrigo91> from backing up the thing
[22:09] <holstein> rodrigo91: i literally dont know what you are referencing or trying to click on, or why.. start at the beginning with all the details
[22:10] <reisio> w4pm: Debian has 1.2.2 :)
[22:10] <holstein> rodrigo91: what thing?
[22:10] <rodrigo91> partition
[22:10] <reisio> but yeah, you can just get it from http://downloads.vagrantup.com/tags/v1.2.7 if you trust them
[22:10] <holstein> w4pm: ubuntu doesnt "update the sources" like that.. its not a rolling release
[22:10] <X-Sleepy-X> !details | rodrigo91
[22:10] <w4pm> i just want to sudo apt-get install vagrant and for it to get a reaonsable version, not version 1.0.1 which is ancient
[22:10] <holstein> w4pm: you get security release "fixes" and updates.. to the current system
[22:11] <holstein> w4pm: you can always build your own verions of whatever you like.. or try a PPA
[22:11] <w4pm> holstein: thats my point, why have a package manager if i have to manually install all my packages
[22:11] <w4pm> thats why im complaining :P
[22:11] <holstein> w4pm: the package manager just does that friend.. manages packages.. you are trying to complain about the sources not containing something you want
[22:12] <rodrigo91> im trying to copy a partition to a new partition would that work
[22:12] <w4pm> hm well whose responsibility is it to update sources? mine or the software creators or ubuntu..
[22:12] <holstein> w4pm: you can file a backport bug.. or as i said, build your own, or try a PPA.. or run a rolling release
[22:12] <holstein> w4pm: the sources *are* updated
[22:12] <w4pm> well like in the case of vagrant, who should be updating the vagrant source?
[22:12] <w4pm> to be more recent
[22:12] <w4pm> instead of 1.0.1
[22:13] <holstein> w4pm: when you install ubuntu, you are installing and not getting a rolling release.. you are agreeing to use the current versions, and accept updates
[22:13] <w4pm> i did sudo apt-get install update and its still 1.0.1
[22:13] <badelvis> Hi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?
[22:13] <holstein> w4pm: vagrant, *if* updates are available will be in the next version of ubuntu.. or, on the site from vagrant for you to get your self.. or a PPA
[22:14] <w4pm> i see, so i need to look for PPAs
[22:14] <w4pm> to supplement the released sources
[22:14] <holstein> w4pm: ppa's, or install what you want manually, or try a rolling release distro.. or file a backport bug, and follow up, or offer to package and maintain it
[22:15] <w4pm> holstein: what is the role of package manager in setting up a system then?
[22:15] <w4pm> to maintain lower-level dependencies with libraries that dont change as often?
[22:15] <w4pm> if, at the top level, i'm installing what i want manually
[22:15] <holstein> w4pm: to manage packages
[22:15] <rodrigo91> holstein forgot it yeah im trying toback up my drive
[22:16] <rodrigo91> so where do i start
[22:16] <holstein> w4pm: when you run "sudo apt-get install vagrant", the package manager deals with dependenies , and allows you to easily remove the package.. etc
[22:16] <w4pm> yeah thats what i want to do
[22:16] <w4pm> but its outdated :P
[22:16] <mojtaba> holstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic
[22:16] <mojtaba> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[22:16] <holstein> w4pm: its up to date, according to the version you have chosen to run
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: you are always welcome to build your own version of whatever
[22:17] <w4pm> hmm why lock down software versions to a specific linux distro
[22:17] <zykotick9> !latest | w4pm
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: its not a lock down, friend
[22:17] <w4pm> i see
[22:17] <holstein> w4pm: its the alternative ro a rolling release.. both have pro's and con's
[22:18] <mojtaba> holstein: Hi again. I run the command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r), but it gives me: "E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic   E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.5.0-28-generic'"
[22:18] <w4pm> yeah im trying to get a picture of the psychology behind this, that helps thanks
[22:18] <rodrigo91> holstein how do i bavkup my drive to go back to ubuntu 10.04
[22:18] <holstein> mojtaba: yes, i see that, please relax
[22:18] <benkillin> did something change with the updates recently? now on my boxen I get 404 errors when I am trying to apt-get update
[22:18] <holstein> mojtaba: run "sudo apt-get update" and share errors via pastebin
[22:18] <mojtaba> holstein: sorry
[22:18] <benkillin> I've gathered this is because of EOL of the release
[22:18] <w4pm> my personal psychology would be, the only way i install/remove software is witha  package manager, not juggling a multitude of ways (package manager, manual installation, etc) but i understand the need for stability
[22:18] <benkillin> is there a way to upgrade my release to a supported version without reinstalling from scratch?
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> benkillin, Might you share your release?
[22:19] <holstein> w4pm: if you want the latest and greatest, that needs to be "maintained".. and you are welcome to do so
[22:19] <mojtaba> holstein: It gave no error.
[22:19] <jrib> !eolupgrade | benkillin
[22:19] <reisio> benkillin: yes
[22:20] <holstein> mojtaba: then.. sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[22:21] <benkillin> 2.6.38-16-server #67-Ubuntu SMP Thu Sep 6 18:15:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:21] <holstein> mojtaba: pastebin the entire error
[22:21] <mojtaba> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934368/
[22:21] <benkillin> thank you I will look at the eol upgrade page
[22:21] <badelvis> Hi there. I have encrypted my home. Obviously it is very important to save the mount passphrase, in case I have to access my home directly at some time. How can I retrieve the mount passphrase, when I'm logged in and my home is decrypted and mounted?
[22:21] <jake_> can anyone help a moron with Primus and Warcraft?
[22:21] <holstein> mojtaba: why do you need headers?
[22:22] <mojtaba> holstein: I want to run virtualbox
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: whats the issue?
[22:23] <mojtaba> it says there is no header
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: it?
[22:23] <holstein> mojtaba: share the *exact* errors via pastebin, please
[22:23] <daftykins> virtualbox install by the sounds
[22:24] <mojtaba> holstein: ok
[22:24] <rodrigo91> would wubi work for the back up
[22:24] <daftykins> wubi is dead
[22:24] <holstein> rodrigo91: a live CD will work
[22:24] <OerHeks> badelvis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Mount_Passphrase
[22:24] <f00bar80> After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[22:24] <jake_> can someone take a look at the 'patch' located at https://github.com/amonakov/primus/issues/91  and tell me what to do with it?
[22:25] <rodrigo91> holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive
[22:25] <holstein> jake_: i would ignore it, and work with getting 3d support on your hardware, if you need it
[22:25] <rodrigo91> holstein:im on a live cd how do i back up my drive
[22:25] <mojtaba> holstein: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5934378/
[22:25] <holstein> rodrigo91: you locate the location and source in a filemanager, and copy
[22:26] <jrib> mojtaba: did you read what you pasted?
[22:26] <rodrigo91> what file manager
[22:26] <realdeal> 2014 is going to be the year of Linux. Mark my words
[22:26] <holstein> mojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?
[22:26] <X-Sleepy-X> benkillin: lsb_release -a
[22:26] <badelvis> Thank you OerHeks. It worked!
[22:27] <mojtaba> holstein: No, I just install it via cmd and used sudo
[22:27] <holstein> mojtaba: virtualbox dkms is available
[22:27] <jake_> I have hardware support through bumblebee, but Primus is supposed to work far faster....but if it is beyond what I can do, I'll stick with just bumblebee
[22:27] <holstein> mojtaba: the error you just linked me suggests running '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root
[22:27] <mojtaba> holstein: What should I do with dkms?
[22:28] <holstein> mojtaba: you should try what the error message suggests.
[22:28] <benkillin> why isn't there an easy button for upgrading an EOLd install?
[22:28] <mojtaba> holstein: how should I install dkms?
[22:29] <holstein> benkillin: fresh install is what i consider easy.. but, there is a path when you catch it early enough
[22:29] <holstein> mojtaba: have you tried '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root?
[22:29] <holstein> mojtaba: if not, try that first, since the error message suggests that
[22:29] <gethenian> are there any boot managers besides grub or lilo?
[22:29] <holstein> gethenian: plenty
[22:30] <f00bar80> hey ppl any comment /.
[22:30] <holstein> f00bar80: on what?
[22:30] <mojtaba> holstein: there is no such file in that directory. (vboxdrv setup'
[22:30] <holstein> f00bar80: i would look in the usual places.. fstab
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> benkillin, Because the eol repos are different.
[22:31] <holstein> mojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms"
[22:31] <f00bar80> holstein, look for what ?
[22:31] <lonewulf85> Hey has anyone in here taken the Cisco certifications?
[22:31] <mojtaba> holstein: virtualbox-dkms is already the newest version.
[22:31] <mojtaba> virtualbox-dkms set to manually installed.
[22:31] <holstein> f00bar80: things to be as i expect them to be, based on the drives that are in the system
[22:32] <holstein> mojtaba: then, remove, and reinstall
[22:32] <f00bar80> holstein, in /dev/disk there's 2 IDs
[22:32] <mojtaba> holstein: sorry, but could you please give me the commands?
[22:32] <holstein> mojtaba: sudo apt-get autoremove virtualbox
[22:33] <mojtaba> holstein: and should I run sudo apt-get install virtualbox after that?
[22:34] <holstein> mojtaba: i would run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" then after rebooting if there is a kerne upagrade, i would run 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox'
[22:35] <Phoenix1969> HELP   install problem...  After choosing Ubuntu at bood, just get black screen with cursor @ top left...?
[22:35] <holstein> !nomodeset
[22:35] <Phoenix1969> boot
[22:35] <holstein> Phoenix1969: ^^
[22:36] <Phoenix1969> ok, will read, ty
[22:37] <mojtaba> holstein: I run all the commands and still same problem. :(
[22:37] <mojtaba> holstein: No suitable module for running kernel found
[22:37] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, you might make a thread at the ubuntu forums, more users to answer.
[22:38] <daftykins> askubuntu!
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: then, install the module
[22:38] <bigawuc> I have many computers at my house. I am a web developer. Should I use ubuntu-server or centOS to make a local server to access remotely kind of thinking of making a little intranet app for fun
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: you are missing the module, not headers
[22:38] <holstein> mojtaba: i have had that problem when i was running a PPA for virtualbox
[22:38] <reisio> bigawuc: whichever distro you're most familiar with
[22:38] <Crowman>    /part
[22:38] <reisio> bigawuc: be it ubuntu, centos, or another one entirely
[22:38] <lonewulf85> wilee-nille, I was just wondering a general question about how tough the courses are?
[22:38] <bigawuc> want to manage a lot of development projects on the server
[22:38] <holstein> bigawuc: this is the ubuntu channel. of course ubuntu is suggested
[22:38] <mojtaba> holstein: Then you know what should I do?
[22:39] <reisio> bigawuc: the only truly sane reason to use CentOS is if you already knew RHEL, and can no longer afford it
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: yes.. *exactly* what i said
[22:39] <caersith> Can anyone access medibuntu? I can access them during update.
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: do you have a ppa added?
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> lonewulf85, No idea myself, mt studies are not even closely related. ;)
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> MY*
[22:39] <Loshki> bigawuc: all other things being equal, I think ubuntu has better support for beginners...
[22:39] <mojtaba> holstein: I am not sure. but maybe before I have done that
[22:39] <caersith> I can't access them during update
[22:39] <mojtaba> holstein: How should I check that?
[22:39] <holstein> mojtaba: confirm if you are, or not.. that can be breaking it
[22:40] <holstein> mojtaba: i would look at my sources
[22:40] <mojtaba> holstein: How should I look at the sources?
[22:40] <mojtaba> holstein: I have not done this before. (sorry for many questions.)
[22:40] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Medibuntu is not supported anymore, not really needed as well.
[22:40] <holstein> mojtaba: this is relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/126175/virtualbox-doesnt-load-after-12-04-upgrade
[22:40] <Casey_> Anyone know how to auto mount a drive that has been encrypted by truebit?
[22:41] <Casey_> truecrypt***
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> Casey_, YOu have the password?
[22:42] <mojtaba> holstein: should I follow the first two answers?
[22:42] <Casey_> wilee-nilee the dirves have not been formated and encrypted yet. I had wanted to wait till I knew if it was possible or not.
[22:42] <holstein> mojtaba: i would read the entire page, and do what you feel comfortable trying
[22:43] <holstein> mojtaba: i am leaving, so addresss the channel
[22:43] <mojtaba> holstein: Thank you very much
[22:43] <mojtaba> bye
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> Casey_, I have not used that option, but this might help. http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/main-program-window
[22:43] <wilee-nilee> on that page
[22:43] <rodrigo91> holstein is this one any good http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/use-ubuntu-live-cd-to-backup-files-from-your-dead-windows-computer/
[22:43] <caersith> wilee-nilee: So what should I do to uninstall them?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> caersith, I believe you added the repo to  sources.list or sources.list.d however you can untick them and remove in software sources.
[22:45] <Loshki> Casey_: I see a lot of info at http://askubuntu.com/questions/103835/securely-automount-encrypted-drive-at-user-login
[22:45] <Casey_> Thank you both for the replies :)
[22:46] <wilee-nilee> caersith, If you go to the ubuntu software center-edit-software sources-other software ans look there.
[22:47] <caersith> wilee-nilee: I know that, and I already check them on source.list and I couldn't find the medibuntu address there. I'll look into that one more time. In the mean time. Any other idea?
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Probably in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> caersith, Fir that I would just gksudo nautilus and go there and delete, I have nautilus set to bypass trash though
[22:49] <caersith> yeah I found it on the source.list.d
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> For*
[22:49] <wilee-nilee> cool
[22:49] <caersith> wilee-nilee: thanks
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> caersith, no problem I don't know the rm -rf for that link in the folder is all
[22:51] <Wox> what is the recommended setup for partitions?
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> Wox, Not really any recomendation other than big enough for the OS, what is your goal here.
[22:52] <wilee-nilee> and ext4 generally
[22:52] <f00bar80> holstein, i found no fstab in /etc
[22:52] <f00bar80> holstein, only mtab
[22:53] <Wox> wilee-nilee: mine is to use it for work and such, and have alot of apps i guess.. i really dont know what i want
[22:54] <rodrigo91> wilee nilee pm me i really need your guidance
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> Wox, understandable, the partitions are resizeable if needed, some people have a separate home to have saved for upgrades, personally I just use one partition and a swap, install is about 4 gigs or so.
[22:55] <Rallias> Is it possible to tell networkmanager to do an "iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M" after connecting to a wireless network?
[22:55] <f00bar80> ppl any comment?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, I don't do PM's
[22:56] <reisio> f00bar80: hi
[22:56] <f00bar80> reisio, hey
[22:56] <f00bar80> reisio, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[22:56] <Rallias> I know with /etc/networking/interfaces I can do a "post-up", but I'm using a laptop that I'd rather utilize the network-manager infrastructure.
[22:57] <rodrigo91> so can you tell me step by step how to backup my system
[22:57] <f00bar80> reisio, as well i found no fstab in /etc
[22:57] <Wox> wilee-nilee: i have heard that it also good if the system crushed!?
[22:57] <reisio> f00bar80: are your partitions mounted?
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, You can copy and paste from one partition to another in gparted, or due a clonezilla package save and reload, a number of options
[22:58] <wilee-nilee> Wox, A seperate home? I have never had a crash in 6 years but I follow some parameters, my nick is a joke.
[22:58] <Wox> yes
[22:59] <Lightingblade> how do i downalod wmere or virual box ?
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> Wox, I suppose so best insurance on a crash is an image/clone and backups.
[22:59] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: you just want everyone to say "i did it wilee-nilee "
[22:59] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, its in the software center
[22:59] <f00bar80> reisio, proc/partitions list my disk as sda sda1 sda2 ,, etc
[22:59] <thiebaude> virtualbox is
[22:59] <reisio> f00bar80: uhuh, are they mounted? 'mount'
[22:59] <Lightingblade> is it free ?
[22:59] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, Yah sure you betcha. ;)
[22:59] <thiebaude> yes
[22:59] <thiebaude> Lightingblade,
[23:00] <rodrigo91> wilee nilee: i tried that but it cant
[23:00] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, tried what?
[23:01] <rodrigo91> trying to copy the partition it just stays the same
[23:01] <f00bar80> reisio, mount shows udev proc, rootfs tmpfs ,, seems no disk are mounted
[23:01] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, what stays the same?
[23:01] <axelm7> hi guys I have a box with ubuntu 13.04 x64 minimal server install. I'd like to add gnome or kde so I can run vuze. Can someone help me with the apt-get install package groups I have to add?
[23:01] <rodrigo91> the quanitty its just one wuatity
[23:02] <rodrigo91> quatity
[23:02] <Wox> wilee-nilee: someone else told me to use root only and backup
[23:02] <spikes> Hey guys, when I update ubuntu I have been using apt-get upgrade, i noticed it does not update 2 files that dist-upgrade and the gui software updater offer to upgrade
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, I use clonezilla then you have a backup then reload it to the other partition. THe copy paste in gparted has to be to anequal or larger partition in size.
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> same with clonezilla
[23:03] <rodrigo91> is clonezilla available for ubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <spikes> my question is, am i better off skipping those files? for some reason in the past when ive done the dist-upgrade it started messing up my ubuntu install
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, It is a 3rd party you download the ISO and make a cd or usb and boot it to use, you need a place to put the packages is all.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, It is not a mirror image other than as data.
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> its a clone
[23:05] <rodrigo91> darn im strewed i dont got a ush or cd
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, Is it a big hurry, having the correct tools makes things easier and less likely to be a failure.
[23:06] <f00bar80> reisio, also there's nt /mnt directory
[23:07] <f00bar80> reisio, blkid shows the 2 sda1 and sda5 , sda5 is the swap and sda1 is the ext4
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> Wox, Not sure what root only is, I think they meant one partition.
[23:08] <rodrigo91> can i just make a  new partition then extract the other partition from that partition
[23:08] <Lightingblade> dose anyone know a good site to downlaod oprating systems on ?
[23:08] <spikes> Lightingblade, torrents
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, gparted will if the second partition is equal or larger in size
[23:08] <Wox> wilee-nilee: only root partition.. like /
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> Wox, ubuntu does not run in root / only is the mount for a single partition, the word root here is not exactly accurate.
[23:10] <rodrigo91> well the curruped one is 168.24 and the free space is 121.40
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, That is why you can't use gparted.
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> or clonezilla
[23:10] <rodrigo91> so it has to be more
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, equal or more
[23:11] <rodrigo91> i already deleted a couple of used files both totaling 40 gb is that enough
[23:11] <Wox> wilee-nilee: ok but only one partition and backup.. told a guy to me
[23:11] <Wox> other*
[23:12] <Lightingblade> but wont torrent slow down your internet conection  if ur going to download a oprating system ?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> rodrigo91, There might be a tar option but I'm not familiar and corrupted partition should just have what you can get out if mountable unless fixable, messing with it may brick it totally if not already.
[23:12] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, its better if you have a high speed internet
[23:13] <Lightingblade> ah ok im just affried it will wreck my conection for a norma home intenret conection
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, torrents have limitations in speed, I would wager your throttled anyway, do you even know the max speed?
[23:13] <thiebaude> ^^
[23:14] <Lightingblade> no im new to this ^-^ il find out !
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, You go there. ;)
[23:14] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, i have done it many times, just saying :)
[23:15] <YamakasY> I wonder how I can check which port is on which switch on a dell 9155
[23:15] <YamakasY> 1955
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> you v=can control the speed from the torrent app
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> can*
[23:15] <Lightingblade> is there a website where u can cheack ur intenret speed?
[23:15] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, just google it
[23:15] <Lightingblade> ah
[23:15] <spikes> google speed test first link
[23:15] <thiebaude> :)
[23:15] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, on the web what is my speed is a good search
[23:15] <thiebaude> yep
[23:15] <Lightingblade> ty
[23:16] <f00bar80> hello anybody there can help?
[23:16] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, i use this http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
[23:17] <Lightingblade> what is a good speed to have ?
[23:17] <spikes> normal cable is like 10-15mbs turbo is 20 and it goes up
[23:17] <f00bar80> reisio, i've got my sda1 mounted and fstab is showing UUID / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
[23:17] <Jordan_U> Lightingblade: If you only allow connections to peers via µTP then it should be more polite to other traffic on the network, and with most Free OSs the torrents have enough peers, and they're savvy enough, that you should be able to get great speeds even from only peers supporting µTP.
[23:19] <Lightingblade> ah
[23:20] <f00bar80> ppl any help
[23:21] <spikes> Lightingblade, what works for me with a 25mb connection is limiting it to about 1-1.5mbs top download speed and my internet speed is still sufficient for video streaming and such
[23:21] <daftykins> f00bar80: what's the problem?
[23:21] <Increase> Hey guys
[23:21] <ikonia> f00bar80: what is the actual problm ?
[23:22] <Lightingblade> so if i would do that i can still download stuff on the utorrent without dissurbing annyones internet conection on the net ?
[23:22] <Increase> Is there any way to keep a usb ubuntu to save what you do?
[23:22] <Ben64> !persistance | Increase
[23:22] <Ben64> !persistant | Increase
[23:23] <f00bar80> ikonia, After tried to upgrade to 12.04 i'm getting the following when booting "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/a8030491-.. does not exist. Dropping to a shell." , when tried to check grub in /boot i got /boot no such file or directory, any idea how to fix this
[23:23] <spikes> Lightingblade, theres not going to be any difference between you downloading a movie on utorrent and an OS, they are probably even close to being the same size
[23:23] <Increase> I've set the persistant file to 4086 and when I exit it doesn't save.
[23:23] <Increase> ben64
[23:23] <Ben64> maybe you did it incorrectly, check the links above
[23:23] <ikonia> f00bar80: use sudo blkid to check the uuid's of your disks
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Ben64, Ou can have a ext3 partition named casper-rw for a persistent as big as you want
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> You*
[23:24] <f00bar80> ikonia, i did and they're same as in /mnt/sysroot/etc/fstab
[23:24] <ikonia> f00bar80: what about the grub.cfg
[23:24] <Increase> Ben64, I did the pendrive install like it says on the tut. I slide the persistant slide to all the way and it won't save.
[23:25] <f00bar80> ikonia, i've tried cat it but couldn't get all the file content in initramfs even using "more"
[23:25] <ikonia> f00bar80: why are you looking at initramfs /
[23:25] <ikonia> f00bar80: I said the grub.cfg
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> Lightingblade, Be sure to use nicks when addressing others, you can tab complete nicks so we can follow.
[23:26] <acidrain> where can i find help about why my ubuntu system is not allowing me to upload a file to my web server using php?
[23:26] <f00bar80> ikonia, i've tried to cat /mnt/sysroot/grub/grub.cfg , but can't see all the file's content
[23:27] <ikonia> f00bar80: what do you mean can't see all it's content
[23:27] <f00bar80> ikonia, when tried to cat it , only a part of it displayed
[23:27] <ikonia> f00bar80: use a text editor or more
[23:28] <acidrain> the php channel is invite only :/
[23:28] <Increase> You will have to enable the component called 'universe'
[23:28] <f00bar80> ikonia, i'm in initramfs
[23:28] <Increase> How do you that?
[23:28] <Lightingblade> how can i be in more rooms on here is there a command ?
[23:28] <ikonia> f00bar80: use a livecd or something if your not comfortable from busy box
[23:28] <acidrain> i have proper permissions set as apache is running as www-data. and i have permissions on the 'upload' folder set to www-data.www-data 777
[23:29] <f00bar80> ikonia, is there a way to use any text editor from busybox?
[23:29] <thiebaude> in xchat-view-channel switcher-tabs Lightingblade
[23:29] <ikonia> f00bar80: you can still use more
[23:29] <f00bar80> ikonia, more always displayed the file's tail
[23:30] <ikonia> f00bar80: it should display the start
[23:30] <f00bar80> ikonia, i have no cd in this atom notebook
[23:30] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, or if you use pidgin you wont have to worry about the tabs
[23:30] <f00bar80> ikonia, let me try again
[23:31] <Orpheon> I have the source of a c library (in my case portaudio) and would like to include the headers; what is the cleanest/best way to do that?
[23:31] <f00bar80> ikonia, no using more, always shows the file's tail
[23:31] <Lightingblade> but i just see the ubuntu room and no other like when i first joined i saw other room too?
[23:31] <Orpheon> copy-pasting into usr seems dangerous, and leaving somewhere in the file tree and changing the path variable seems not secure either
[23:31] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, change the view to tabs instead of tree view
[23:31] <Increase> You will have to enable the component called 'universe', how do you enable?
[23:31] <Orpheon> is there anything like make install which automatically puts the files in the right places?
[23:31] <thiebaude> in xchat
[23:31] <f00bar80> ikonia, i think in all cases i'll not be able to modify the grub.cfg from the buxybox
[23:32] <ikonia> f00bar80: should be able to
[23:32] <f00bar80> ikonia, how ..?!!
[23:32] <ikonia> f00bar80: first check it has the wrong uuid
[23:33] <acidrain> AH! thx ubuntu for your help. i have found the issue. i didnt restart apache after i changed the max file size upload :P
[23:33] <thiebaude> acidrain, cool :)
[23:33] <f00bar80> ikonia, how , i mentioned that more always shows the file's tail
[23:33] <gethenian> what is a normal connection range for a cardbus wifi?
[23:33] <ikonia> f00bar80: it shoulnd't do that
[23:33] <Lightingblade> what tasps do you mean ?
[23:34] <ikonia> f00bar80: I suggest booting from teh livd usb to make it easy for you
[23:34] <thiebaude> Lightingblade, you using xchat?
[23:34] <f00bar80> ikonia, :( :) ... that;s what happened
[23:34] <Lightingblade> yeah
[23:34] <ikonia> gethenian: that is an impossible question
[23:34] <gethenian> what is usual?
[23:34] <ikonia> gethenian: there is no such thing as "usual"
[23:35] <gethenian> is getting only 1 megabit at 10 feet (3 meters), poor reception?
[23:35] <thiebaude> goto the top of xchat and choose view-channel switcher then choose tabs
[23:35] <thiebaude> Lightingblade,
[23:36] <f00bar80> ikonia, k let me try
[23:36] <mneri> hello, i need the name of a good and easy daemon monitor. I want to know if a daemon on my server get down. Suggestions?
[23:37] <hodapp> I'm on 13.04 on a Chromebook, but I can't seem to connect to any wireless from the commandline; lines like 'iwconfig mlan0 essid NETGEAR' are returning silently, but iwconfig is never showing me as associated and so dhclient can't get an address
[23:37] <hodapp> would do this graphically but cannot make X start without some packages missed in the installation
[23:38] <dr_willis> you did a desktop install.?
[23:39] <hodapp> dr_willis: It's xubuntu-desktop, I believe, but the issue is with some drivers that my hardware configuration requires.
[23:39] <Lightingblade> ah finally got it the options menu at the top was hiden with the taps on normal view so i maximixed the window and it came back agen
[23:41] <hodapp> I suppose I can look at using NetworkManager's commandline tools
[23:43] <azazel91> can anybody tell me where does the deleted items of the live cd go i cant seem to find it anywhere in my computer
[23:44] <Dandalion> azazel91, is there a trash bin in your home folder?
[23:45] <azazel91> no why
[23:46] <azazel91> dadalion do you mean left hand panel then yes
[23:50] <hodapp> okay, NetworkManager apparently is usable from the commandline and actually got me an address despite my iwconfig commands not working
[23:50] <hodapp> woot
[23:50] <vieira> Hello, I wrote a shell script and changed /etc/passwd to execute this instead of /bin/bash and it works when I ssh into the machine. But now when I try to scp it gives me an error :(
[23:50] <vieira> it says: 2013/07/31 23:41:21 Impossible to monitor size on non-tty
[23:50] <vieira> any idea?
[23:51] <varlogtim> Hey hodapp
[23:51] <honestly> vieira: sftp instead?
[23:51] <varlogtim> hodapp NetworkManager is usuable on command line, apt-get install nmcli
[23:52] <honestly> vieira: or you could force the execution of that script in your ssh config instead of replacing your login shell
[23:52] <hodapp> varlogtim: err, apt-get does me no good when I've no Internet access on here.
[23:53] <hodapp> varlogtim: also, as I just said, I was able to use it to get an address
[23:53] <varlogtim> hodapp Oh... My bad... I am on this boring conference call ... Just popped in and thought I would add some non-knowledge
[23:54] <hodapp> :)
[23:54] <f00bar80> ikonia, hey in grub.cfg that's what i found set root='(hd0,1)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set "my sda1 uuid" which i got from blkid
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: sftp user@host does not give any error but does nothing
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: I write pwd, for example, nothing happens
[23:55] <vieira> honestly: or even help...
[23:55] <honestly> weird
[23:55] <fabrina> oi
[23:55] <honestly> looks like replacing your shell by a script was a bad idea >_>
[23:56] <fabrina> como??
[23:56] <vieira> honestly: can only access via ssh, I don't understand what I have to change to not break scp
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> fabrina, English?
[23:56] <fabrina> no
[23:56] <fabrina> brazileiro
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> !br
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> fabrina^^^^^
[23:56] <fabrina> ola
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> ;()
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:57] <fabrina> :))
[23:57] <fabrina> fale me portugues
[23:57] <vieira> honestly: I think it has something to do with tty and non-tty but not sure...
[23:57] <honestly> vieira: I think it has something to do with you not having a login shell anymore
[23:57] <vieira> fabrina: faça /join #ubuntu-br
[23:57] <Increase> Hey guys
[23:58] <Increase> Where do I run the apt-get install command from?
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: terminal
[23:58] <Increase> Do I do it in the folder or in a sub folder or desktop?
[23:58] <Increase> jrib I know that.. Lol. I run it and it says it has no installation candiate
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: you run it in a terminal.  What is it that you want to do exactly?
[23:58] <tripelb> help please. 12.04 iso no internet connection can NOT see the 2-3 ntfs windows and backup partitions.
[23:58] <jrib> Increase: what are  you running?
[23:58] <Increase> ubuntu
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: what command are you running?
[23:59] <Increase> apt-get install
[23:59] <Increase> I'm root
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: the syntax is apt-get install PACKAGE
[23:59] <Increase> Yeah, I'm doing that
[23:59] <vieira> honestly: can I mimic the "thing" that a login shell does just to get scp to work?
[23:59] <Increase> apt-get install aircrack-ng
[23:59] <jrib> !info aircrack-ng
[23:59] <tripelb> i have only used gnome 2 before.
[23:59] <jacobguy7800> Hi guys ubuntu n00b here
[23:59] <jrib> Increase: make sure you have universe enabled and run « sudo apt-get update »