[18:23] <wilee-nilee> krywk, Strange gparted should wipe it.
[18:23] <holstein> mare: ubuntu *includes* linux
[18:23] <zipy> its already included
[18:23] <mumpitze1> mare: no. linux is part of ubuntu
[18:23] <mare> so I can just get ubuntu?
[18:23] <krywk> wilee-nilee, sadly it doesn't.
[18:23] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: what type of DDOS attack is it? you may be able to look at the subnets and determine where the spoofed ips are coming from
[18:23] <holstein> mare: you can do what you like.. ubuntu is an operating system... it uses the linux kernel
[18:23] <bazhang> mare, did you actually read any of the links?
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> but you probably wont do well getting the actual source ip's - your concern should be more so preventing it - and determing how exactly they are doing it so you can patch it in the future
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Would I be able to determinate anything more than the location or would I be able to get specifically where?
[18:24] <mumpitze1> krywk: what is the device name /dev/... for the SDHC card?
[18:24] <zipy> krywk, sudo wipe -r /pathtoyoursdcard
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy I think they are TCP attacks
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: it depends - for instance if they are all associated to a AN number you may be able to look up more details on who owns it or the block
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> that would only get you to whos systems are being *abused* to accomplish the attack though
[18:24] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Ah okay
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> but it could help -
[18:24] <mare> but ubuntu will not work unless I get linux as well?
[18:25] <bazhang> mare, please stop
[18:25] <Pelayo> mare: linux is a kernel, the core of the system, and there are lots of distributions using it: Ubuntu, Mint, Red Hat, SuSe...
[18:25] <mare> can I use open office with ubuntu?
[18:25] <zipy> if u get ubuntu u got linux already
[18:25] <bazhang> mare, please read the links
[18:25] <krywk> mumpitze1, /dev/sde
[18:25] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy Is there any easy way to get the IPs if I have a fair amount of network traffic?
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> mare, IN the simplest answer linux is the kernel
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: yes sort them with netstat
[18:25] <krywk> zipy, sudo: wipe: command not found
[18:25] <holstein> mare: libreoffice..and yes, you can use whatever you like with ubuntu, which again, *includes* the linux kernel
[18:25] <l3d> was wondering if there is a way to pick witch monitor is the main screen/ I have a laptop connected to a lcd tv hdmi which I would like to make the main screen and a lcd 19inch monitor I would like as extra screen to do terminal stuff in. But as it is now they are backwards 19inch is the main.
[18:25] <cuddylier> SolarisBoy What would I search for though?
[18:25] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: insert knowing a little about the attack -
[18:26] <wilee-nilee> mare, and lol read the links as suggested
[18:26] <zipy> krywk, k then u have to install wipe first with sudo apt-get install wipe
[18:26] <mare> holstein: libreoffice, but not openoffice?
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: if you know that its a dns flood - you may want to look at where the dns "replies" are coming from
[18:26] <Pelayo> mare, both are available anywhere...
[18:26] <holstein> mare: if you want to run the older version, you can..
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> hence packets with src of 53 or such cuddylier
[18:26] <mumpitze1> krywk: sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count 100. this will overwrite your SDCH partition table and the first 100 sectors. it will "wipe" the SDHC guaranteed. you will want to create a new partition table and partitions with "sudo fdisl /dev/sde" then and afterwards format it with whatever mkfs you want
[18:26] <mare> holstein: okay, and I download just ubuntu then?
[18:26] <SolarisBoy> cuddylier: and adjust that based on the attack port - if you can get that info..
[18:26] <holstein> mare: thats what is suggested
[18:27] <mumpitze1> krywk: but be very very very careful that it actually is the SDHC card. mine always use something like /dev/mmblk0 or similar
[18:27] <zipy> mare, libreoffice is the new name of old openoffice. open office was bought by oracle
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> and now apahce
[18:27] <holstein> mare: if you want to use ubuntu, you'll need to obtain it, and downloading is arguably the easiest way
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> apache
[18:27] <mumpitze1> zipy: openoffice is still the name of openoffice
[18:27] <zipy> oracle gave it to apache
[18:27] <mare> holstein: is there a version of adobe acrobat pro that can be used on it? openacrobat pro or something? or a list of software that works with it?
[18:27] <Pelayo> yep, and openoffice just released version 4.0
[18:28] <holstein> mare: nothing about linux/ubuntu is preventing adobe from providing you whatever appliation that is
[18:28] <holstein> mare: can you open pdf files in ubuntu? yes
[18:28] <SolarisBoy> mare: they have PDF creation software - i am not sure if acrobat works - there may be ways to install it via wine assuming its supported -
[18:28] <krywk> mumpitze1, sudo: count: command not found
[18:28] <Pelayo> or create and export them from libreoffice
[18:28] <holstein> mare: *all* of this can be tested from the live CD..
[18:28] <DJones> mare: zipy: Actually, Libreoffice was forked to create Openoffice, Oracle bought LIbreOffice
[18:29] <mare> Holstein: more than opening, I need to edit and combine them and switch them back and forth between word and pdf. maybe a software list would help
[18:29] <mumpitze1> krywk: sorry. sudo if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count=100   forgot a "="
[18:29] <holstein> mare: as suggested, that can be done in libreoffice, and from the live CD
[18:29] <mare> what is a liveCD?
[18:29] <SolarisBoy> a way to test a OS without installing it mare
[18:29] <IdleOne> mare: Time to read the links ubottu provided
[18:29] <mare> and how will I use it on my computer that has no CD drive?
[18:29] <wilee-nilee> enablers
[18:30] <Pelayo> mare, usb drive
[18:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> Er, question: is  there a reason the www-data user has a real shell? (/bin/sh on this system), and is it fine to change it to /bin/false? I assume it doesn't need a shell for anything...
[18:30] <mumpitze1> mare: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
[18:30] <DJones> mare: You can use a USB stick
[18:30] <krywk> mumpitze1, comes up with the 'sudo' usage manpage
[18:30] <Nisstyre-laptop> It seems rather insecure after all
[18:30] <craigbass1976> I've got /share  It's permissions are set to 777.  It's shared out via samba, with wide open permissions (so that windows users can get at stuff with no trouble)  and mounted to my /home/me via fstab.  THe smb.conf create mask is set to 777, but when I create something from the linux box it's 755, then I can't do anything to the file or directory because nobody:nogroup owns it. I don't want my default create mask to be 777, jus
[18:30] <craigbass1976> t for that share
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> you could also boot it from grub assuming it were available on /boot somewhere
[18:30] <zipy> krywk, but make sure u put in the right path in of=... since it will overwrite any partition u put in there
[18:30] <SolarisBoy> @live cd's
[18:30] <mumpitze1> krywk: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde bs=512 count=100
[18:31] <mumpitze1> Nisstyre-laptop: might be needed for cgi?
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> mumpitze1: would php-fpm require it? I doubt it
[18:31] <mumpitze1> Nisstyre-laptop: I don't know
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> besides, that runs under a different user
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> you should be able to set it to bin false
[18:31] <Nisstyre-laptop> I'm going to
[18:31] <SolarisBoy> if your app breaks then set it back
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: interesting - my www-data user defaults /bin/sh also
[18:33] <SolarisBoy> wow - and i just switched to him...
[18:33] <mare> If I have a computer that runs really badly with windows, will installing ubuntu make any difference? or will it just make is run both in both systems?
[18:34] <mare> oops, badly with both systems
[18:34] <mumpitze1> craigbass1976: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch08.html  read about "creation masks" there. it's a setting for the samba share you can use
[18:34] <mutante> can i PermitRootLogin in sshd from one interface (localhost) but not permit it from other interface (eth0) without running 2 separate sshds?
[18:34] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: it seems like a security hole tbh
[18:34] <holstein> mare: depends.. ubuntu will not fix or reconcile broken hardware, if that is what is making windows perform badly
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> mare pretty open ended question - probably need to know why it performs bad
[18:34] <Nisstyre-laptop> shouldn't be the default
[18:34] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: no question about that
[18:34] <mumpitze1> mare: depends. if it's an old computer with a small amount of RAM you should use something like Lubuntu
[18:34] <cruisemaniac> Hello folks! can you please help me with postfix + dovecot + squirrelmail on ubuntu 12.10. This is my first time around. I'm not seeing a protocol imap section in the dovecot.conf file
[18:35] <mare> depends on definition of old. it is 2 years old. and yes small amount of ram
[18:35] <holstein> mare: using a live CD is a great diagnostic tool, since it bypassed the installed OS, and the hard drive, and includes tools for testing the memory and the hard drive
[18:35] <SolarisBoy> i wonder whos fault it is - the www-data probably gets created in post/pre install of some webserver/service and likely gets setup insecurely there
[18:35] <krywk> mumpitze1, what do I do in fdisk?
[18:35] <mare> that's the computer with no cd drive, but I see something about flashdrive option
[18:35] <mumpitze1> krywk: you create new partitions. the old ones on the SDHC card are all gone
[18:35] <holstein> mare: using a live CD will literally harm nothing, and answer most, if not all of your questions.. it was one of the first things i suggested to you, and i still suggest it
[18:36] <mumpitze1> mare: please tell us what CPU, what videocard andhow much RAM it has please?
[18:36] <holstein> mare: and, as was stated, and guides linked, you can use the live CD via USB stick
[18:36] <mare> okay, so just need to figure out how to get a hold of this live cd thing
[18:36] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yeah, I'd have to dig through the setup scripts
[18:36] <holstein> !install | mare
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: do you run nginx?
[18:36] <QTPieMan> !x
[18:36] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yes
[18:36] <mare> where do I find cpu, videocard info?
[18:36] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: i think we have a culprit
[18:36] <Pici> !botabuse | QTPieMan
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> <--doesnt use apache and thats the only thing i can think to have put that user there in this laptops short life
[18:37] <mare> toshiba NB505-N508BL
[18:37] <SolarisBoy> edit: Nisstyre-laptop nginx from default repo or some PPA? mines from a PPA and it's all starting to make more sense...
[18:38] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: default repo
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> blah =(
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> thats kinda crappy i never noticed that huge flaw..
[18:38] <SolarisBoy> Nisstyre-laptop: good eyes sir/mam
[18:38] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: yeah I don't even know why I was looking
[18:39] <Nisstyre-laptop> I just noticed it and went wtf
[18:39] <QTPieMan> Pici, ok
[18:39] <SolarisBoy> +1
[18:39] <Nisstyre-laptop> SolarisBoy: I might see if I can reproduce it in a fresh vm install or something
[18:40] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, i think nginx is a bit slow
[18:40] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: you have to tune it a bit
[18:40] <Nisstyre-laptop> it can handle large numbers of connections quite well
[18:40] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, whats prob with apache2?
[18:41] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: nginx is just more to my taste, I'm not a fan of apache's concurrency model
[18:41] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, oh ok
[18:42] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, also lightttpd is good
[18:42] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: sure
[18:42] <Nisstyre-laptop> there are probably other good ones too
[18:43] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, r u running ubuntu server?
[18:43] <Nisstyre-laptop> QTPieMan: yes, it's running on a linode
[18:43] <QTPieMan> Nisstyre-laptop, oh cool
[18:44] <QTPieMan> why hexchat is not in software centre?
[18:44] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Its in a ppa
[18:45] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, ok
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Load the PPA run a update and you will see it there.
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, hmm
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, i know all of that
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> QTPieMan, Good for you, however I don't unless you say so.
[18:46] <krywk> mumpitze1: Calling ioctl() to reread the partition table. WARNING: reread of the partition table faild with error 22 invalid argument
[18:46] <QTPieMan> wilee-nilee, thats true, thanx btw
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[18:47] <krywk> failed*
[18:47] <mumpitze1> krywk: reboot. can happen when you rewrite the partition table. or at least remove the SD card and then plug it back in. that might reset the kernel tables too
[18:47] <krywk> mumpitze1, already tried with unplug/plug, still the same, gonna try with reboot
[18:48] <mare> does anyone know of a list of software that works with ubuntu?
[18:48] <share> how to restart gnome3 from console?
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> share: gnome3 isn't really a daemon - you probably want to restart your display manager
[18:48] <mare> and finally, and most importantly, is it similar to windows in that nothing ever works, and when it is working, it does an automatic update which makes something that used to work not work anymore?
[18:48] <share> SolarisBoy: i tried
[18:48] <SolarisBoy> how?
[18:49] <share> systemctl restart gdm.service
[18:49] <QTPieMan> anybody using cinnamon de?
[18:49] <SolarisBoy> thats not an ubuntu command is it?
[18:49] <SolarisBoy> looks like arch
[18:49] <share> SolarisBoy: no :) yes
[18:49] <mumpitze1> mare: here is a big list http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/
[18:49] <share> bye
[18:50] <mumpitze1> SolarisBoy: he ran away pretty fast :)
[18:50] <SolarisBoy> lol yeppers
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> mare https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ListOfOpenSourcePrograms
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> your asking with all your questions - there are thousands of applications, some are direct ports, some implement functionalities, you really need to just boot the Live CD and explore
[18:51] <SolarisBoy> and keep google on your side
[18:51] <mare> hmm, unfortunately nothing in the list looks like a doc or pdf type file creator
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> yea well you need to use google there
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> it's out of scope for every single application or thing oen person would want to be listed there in detail
[18:52] <QTPieMan> Poisoned_Dragon, hello :P
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> you would get further on an ubuntu system typing "pdf" in a search box for software center than asking everyone here.
[18:52] <mare> thanks solaris, i see it in your list
[18:52] <SolarisBoy> trust me,
[18:53] <DJones> mare: You asked about openoffice and libreoffice eariler, they are doc creators, Ubuntu will let you save any document as a pdf
[18:53] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | mare
[18:53] <mare> oops, except the pdf creator link doesn't work :(
[18:53] <SolarisBoy> ...
[18:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> hi QTPieMan
[18:54] <holstein> mare: i use libreoffice to create pdf's
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> ubuntu AFAIK has PDF libraries included somehow because "Print to PDF" seems to be an option on most if not all default installs as of recent
[18:54] <DJones> mare: File, Export as PDF, thats it
[18:54] <SolarisBoy> and then there are _tons_ literally tons of PDF manipulation apps
[18:55] <holstein> all of which can be tested from the live CD (via usb stick)
[18:55] <SolarisBoy> &then yes like everyone else stated libre/open office work with PDF file
[18:55] <craigbass1976> mumpitze1, create and directory masks were both at 777 already.  I tried the inherit permissions = yes, but that didn't help.  Directories get created with 775.  My fstab line is //<IP_ADDRESS>/moulton-files   /home/moultonr/share   cifs   guest,_netdev   0 0
[18:55] <ix_> does anyone know a mirror for ports.ubuntu.com ?
[18:56] <mumpitze1> craigbass1976: it's not the fstab line but the share in smb.conf
[18:58] <mare> what do you use to combine several word and pdfs into one pdf?
[18:59] <holstein> mare: i dont use word documents..
[18:59] <mare> i use adobe acrobat pro
[18:59] <holstein> mare: nothing is preventing adobe from releasing acrobat pro for linux
[18:59] <mare> nice, but where do I find it?
[18:59] <holstein> mare: what you want to do can be done from linux.. but its not the "same" as windows
[18:59] <holstein> mare: find what?
[18:59] <ix_> mare: you could just export the documents to pdf, I'm very sure there are programs to merge pdf's
[18:59] <mare> adobe acrobat pro for linux that you say adobe is going to release
[19:00] <holstein> mare: i did *not* say that
[19:00] <mare> yes, adobe acrobat pro combines them. what is the open source version?
[19:00] <holstein> mare: i said, they are welcome to release a linux version.. but AFAIK, they do not
[19:00] <yalex> Hello how can i set the default permissions for new files to include write for groups, ACLs don't appear to be working
[19:00] <holstein> mare: if acrobat pro use is a "deal breaker", then you can look into using it in wine
[19:01] <mare> using it in wine? what does that mean?
[19:01] <holstein> mare: otherwise, i have no trouble creating pdf's as mentioned above.. in libreoffice, or with print to pdf.. both of which can be tested, free of charge, from a live CD
[19:01] <Kitt3n> mare, install Wine then just install the Windows adobe pdf thing
[19:01] <holstein> !wine
[19:01] <ix_> mare: I see you can merge pdf's online too, you might try that
[19:02] <holstein> mare: wine is a way you can try to run the *exact* application you want from windows in linux
[19:03] <yalex> new files are only being create user rw and group r i'm using a cifs mount
[19:04] <DJones> mare: If you need Windows app's that won't run under wine, you should use Windows to get the best results, Ubuntu is an alternative operating system, but isn't suitable for everybodies needs
[19:05] <Kitt3n> It can totally be
[19:05] <mare> does ubuntu constantly stop working and make you want to throw your computer at the wall like windows?
[19:05] <Kitt3n> ^
[19:05] <holstein> mare: anyone is capable of misuing and misconfiguring *any* os
[19:06] <Kitt3n> Not Apple's,that's too locked down to do anything
[19:06] <mare> does that mean yes? automatic downloads that you can't stop from happening that then make your software not work?
[19:06] <holstein> mare: it means, you are welcome to manage the operating system as you wish
[19:06] <mare> cause if it is just as hateful as windows, there's no point in doing it
[19:07] <mare> i was hoping it would be more like apple in the sense that all the software always works together on the machine
[19:07] <holstein> mare: computers can be frustratin
[19:07] <holstein> mare: "hope" doesnt really apply here. only education and good practices
[19:10] <hispeed1> has somone time to support me: i'm on my synology station via ssh and i'm using vi for editing a file. I have added the lines in the config and i left the change modus with: esc then i entered: :w
[19:10] <hispeed1> is now everything saved?
[19:10] <ikonia> hispeed1: if you didn't get an error, yes
[19:10] <ikonia> hispeed1: what is synology ?
[19:10] <mumpitze1> ikonia: a proprietary NAS that doesn't run ubuntu
[19:10] <ikonia> ...great....
[19:10] <mumpitze1> but is linux based
[19:10] <holstein> hispeed1: http://www.synology.com/support/knowledge_base.php?lang=us is where i would go
[19:11] <hispeed1> ;=) yes I know it's not ubuntu based but as he said it's linux based
[19:11] <ikonia> this isn't a linux channel
[19:11] <ikonia> it's an ubuntu channel
[19:11] <hispeed1> holstein thanks I know that link ;)
[19:11] <ikonia> hispeed1: I suggest reading what holstein and not asking again please.
[19:12] <mumpitze1> hispeed1: then use it in the future instead of coming here. or go to ##linux
[19:12] <holstein> hispeed1: otherwise, the manpages in ubuntu for vi might be what you are looking for
[19:13] <hispeed1> ok message arrived
[19:16] <yalex> hello, using ACLs to force permissions for a samba share and it is working for a windows user but not a linux user, where new files do not have the write permission set
[19:25] <ars23>  /join #manjaro
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> evening to all
[19:26] <zastaph> Kernel 3.11 has proper power management for older ATI cards, which I depend on for my dell. My 13.04 is at kernel 3.8. How long do you think it takes for 3.11 to find its way into Ubuntu? or maybe I should just upgrade it manually?
[19:26] <lonewulf85> Hey if I have to reinstall Ubuntu 12.04 and I have a seperate partition for /home would it erease my data on the /home partition?
[19:29] <dacs> howdy folks
[19:29] <bazhang> lonewulf85, you can direct the installer to leave it alone,
[19:31] <lonewulf85> dazhang, Yes I did that and when it got to the part asking for my personal information the encrypted box was already checked and I could not uncheck it. I had chosen to encrypt with my first install, would this emply that it recignised the /home and is not going to change it?
[19:33] <dacs> so i was here earlier this morning, complaining about my 13.04 being very laggy when i am running Desktop
[19:33] <doomlord> is there/ can anyone recomend a grep gui tool, preferably with a minimal ui (trigger a search, not much visible in its window other than the search results)
[19:34] <dacs> any application i open take a bit then start showing at the desktop faded and comes focused slowly
[19:34] <ikonia> doomlord: you can't need a gui for frep
[19:34] <je384> greetings programs
[19:34] <ikonia> dacs: you need to find out if that is system performance or video drawing performance
[19:34] <mare> hmm, just noted the flashstick instructions are like 10 pages long.  can't just copy to disk and then click????
[19:34] <lonewulf85> -Poisoned_Dragon-, Right I did that and where it would not allow me to uncheck the encrypt home folder that means that all is well right? I do have most of it backed up just incase but not having to replace the files would be great.
[19:34] <ikonia> mare: read the instructions, as it depends
[19:34] <mumpitze1> doomlord: https://www.google.de/search?q=graphical+grep  directly points to http://sourceforge.net/projects/grepgui/
[19:35] <ikonia> mare: if it was that simple or didn't have catches it would be a one line instruction.
[19:35] <dacs> ikonia: how will i do that, i just installed a fresh copy of 13.04 before i was running 10.10 and it was working flawlessly
[19:35] <mare> Creating a bootable Ubuntu USB flash drive
[19:35] <mare> From Ubuntu
[19:35] <mare> Install and run usb-creator
[19:35] <mare> You can find usb-creator-gtk in the Unity Dash by typing "Startup Disk Creator" (Ubuntu Desktop) or usb-creator-kde in K-Menu-->Applications-->System-->Startup Disk Creator (Kubuntu). If it is not there, then you can install it using the Synaptic Package Manager or Ubuntu Software Center
[19:35] <mare> Insert and mount the USB drive. Inserting the USB drive should auto-mount it.
[19:35] <FloodBot1> mare: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:35] <ikonia> mare: you don't need to post it in here - we can read the wiki
[19:35] <ikonia> dacs: 10.10 isn't the best to compare with as a lot has changed
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> 3+ years of updates and changes. :)
[19:37] <Wha|e> hi
[19:37] <dacs> Dr_Willis: lol i know
[19:38] <reisio> hi Wha|e
[19:40] <lonewulf85> -Poisoned_Dragon-, Cool after the install is finished I will look and make sure everything is where it should be.
[19:41] <dacs> so its not that great , but still shouldn't act that slow
[19:41] <ikonia> dacs: what video card do you have ?
[19:42] <hastings> Hello! I've just installed ubuntu, and I'm having trouble setting up wireless.
, What WiFi card?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> hastings: can you tell us what chipset?
[19:42] <hastings> I'm using a Lenovo T431s
[19:42] <ikonia> hastings: just explain the problem you are having
[19:42] <ikonia> hastings: we can't help until you give us information of what's not working as you expect
[19:43] <dacs> ikonia: Advanced Micro Device [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[19:43] <ikonia> dacs: how much ram do you have in your machine
[19:43] <blazemore> !wireless | hastings Have you looked here
[19:43] <dacs> ikonia: 2.0 GB
[19:43] <ikonia> why don't we find out hastings problem before throwing random information at him
[19:44] <ikonia> dacs: ok, so you should get some acceptble response out of that
[19:44] <hastings> when I run lshw -C network it doesn't show a wireless device, just an ethernet device and a network manager
[19:44] <hastings> http://askubuntu.com/questions/295027/lenovo-t431s-and-and-wireless-dont-play-nicely
[19:44] <ikonia> dacs: the first thing I'd look at is either a.) making sure your video card is configured correctly or b.) confirming if the poor performance is down to the system or video card
[19:44] <hastings> this suggested I download a patch, but the patch refused to install
[19:45] <dacs> ikonia: can you please help on how to do a) & b) :)
[19:45] <Visievion> pip
[19:46] <Visievion> err ww.
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: the easy way is to open a terminal, mess around in it, if it responds "ok" once the terminal is open, it's a fair guess to assume the machine is ok, and it's video response.
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: do something like "ls -lR" in /
[19:46] <ikonia> dacs: make sure it responds "ok"
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> hastings: does your machine boot wifi from bios?
[19:46] <dacs> that is what is happing , once the terminal load it processes everything fast
[19:47] <ikonia> hastings: I'm sat here on a T430s - what wireless card is actually in your T431
[19:47] <ikonia> hastings: I'd expect an intel card in that laptop
[19:47] <hastings> lotuspsyche: It's dual boot, and wifi works fine in the windows 8 operating system. is that the question you are asking?
[19:48] <OerHeks> i have seen issues win8/fastboot and wifi not usable in ubuntu.
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> hastings: well im asking because some w7 or w8 machines need 'network boot' set to ON in bios to run properly with ubuntu...not sure if its your case
[19:48] <dacs> ikonia: about half a sec resresh rate from the above command
[19:48] <ikonia> dacs: are you happy with that ?
 ikonia: about half a sec resresh rate from the above command
 dacs: are you happy with that ?
[19:48] <hastings> * elementary<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[19:49] <dacs> yeah
[19:49] <elementary> Hi, where's the scientiest I was talking for elementary - trisquel before with ?
[19:49] <ikonia> elementary: not in this channel
[19:49] <reisio> elementary: was it in this channel? With what nick/s?
[19:49] <elementary> It was in this channel :)
[19:49] <elementary> I don't remember the nick unfortunately, client crashed and haven't noted it haha
[19:49] <ikonia> elementary: this channels for ubuntu, so please don't go looking for discussion in this channel
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> !alis | elementary
[19:50] <elementary> The distros I am talking about are based on ubuntu, I am not doing anything against ubuntu or off topic
[19:50] <reisio> elementary: and you don't log?
[19:50] <ikonia> elementary: they are not ubuntu though
[19:50] <ikonia> elementary: and you don't show as being in this channel in the last 24 hours
[19:50] <elementary> I was before 1 hour
[19:50] <reisio> elementary: using the nick 'elementary'?
[19:50] <ikonia> dacs: I'd check the amd/ati modules and how compatible they are with your card
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> !logs | elementary
[19:50] <elementary> Ok he talked to me :) Thanks
[19:50] <DJones> elementary: You were posting spam earlier today
[19:51] <elementary> I was not posting Spam, I never spam
[19:51] <hastings> my wireless card is "03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[19:51] <hastings> 	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 5260
[19:51] <hastings> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
[19:51] <hastings> 	Memory at f0c00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
[19:51] <hastings> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[19:51] <hastings> "
[19:51] <FloodBot1> hastings: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:51] <reisio> when you get the answer you want, hang up
[19:51] <DJones> 17:32 < elementary> Hi all ! Looking for a skilled developer to assist me in various tasks and get paid of course
[19:51] <DJones> elementary: That is spam
[19:51] <hastings> sorry will use pastebin next time
[19:51] <elementary> It's not spam, it's offering job when the unemployment rate is huge
[19:51] <elementary> You live in another planet ?
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> elementary:  it is spam for this channel.
[19:52] <bazhang> !ot | elementary
[19:52] <ikonia> hastings: can you put "lspci" in a pastebin please.
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> hastings: try the intel sublink from what blazemore pasted you
[19:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> lspci | grep Ethernet would be cleaner
[19:53] <TheDracle> So, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 13.04. I commonly use SlickEdit for Code editing, and for some reason the Window Decorations on it constantly disappear, and reappear rapidly.
[19:53] <ikonia> no, I'd just like to see the output please.
[19:53] <TheDracle> Other windows seem unaffected. Is there something different with the Window Decoration plugin in 13.04?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  run it from a terminal, look for error messages. is that the ONLY app that has the issue?
[19:53] <TheDracle> Dr_Willis, Yes.
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  is that a java app or anyother way unusual?
[19:54] <hastings> Here is the whole lspci: http://pastebin.com/3NqWLjPS
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> !info slickedit
[19:54] <TheDracle> Dr_Willis, It's a C application, I think it uses WxWidgets underneath.
[19:54] <ikonia> hastings: I didn't ask for "lspci -v"
[19:54] <ikonia> hastings: I asked for "lspci"
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  ive never seen just the windows decoration 'crash' on a single app. since they are handled by the window manager.  What desktop ae you using?
[19:55] <TheDracle> What desktop? You mean GTK/Unity?
[19:55] <ikonia> hastings: ok, so the good news is there is a device with a matching pci id for your wireless card
[19:55] <ronk> just tried gnome-shell. I can see why Canonical made Unity :P
[19:55] <TheDracle> I'm using the standard in 13.04.
[19:55] <TheDracle> And Unity3D
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  where did you get slickedit from?
[19:56] <TheDracle> Downloaded it from the Application providers website, it's not a standard repository application.
[19:56] <TheDracle> It's a commercial IDE.
[19:56] <ikonia> probably a gtk2 app with a non-exisant theme now
[19:56] <hastings> sorry: here is the lspci, not lspci -v http://pastebin.com/7dG8nC29
[19:56] <ikonia> hastings: doesn't matter now, I can see the wireless card
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> TheDracle:  id check their support  forums and see if others have a similer issue. running it from a terminal may give a clue as to the issue. it may be as ikonia  says.
[19:56] <ikonia> hastings: can you now pastebin the output of "iwconfig" please
[19:58] <hastings> here are the results of iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/yh4rsYXH
[19:59] <ikonia> hastings: ok, so there is an issue there
[19:59] <ikonia> hastings: let me have a look for some information on that specific card
[19:59] <hastings> Thank you for your help, by the way!
[20:00] <ikonia> hastings: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[20:00] <ikonia> actually, just show me uname -a
[20:00] <ikonia> lets see what kernel you're running
[20:00] <ikonia> that's the more important bit
[20:00] <OerHeks> sounds like wireless N issue with this card http://askubuntu.com/questions/282449/wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-6235
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> got me a new usb video capture dongle that actually works in linux/ubuntu (totally plug and play!) now trying to track down a simple app to capture video for a set amount of time, so i can just click record and click play on the vcr, come back an hr later and it will be done with the capture.  Anyone care to make a reccomendation?
[20:01] <hastings> here is the result of uname -a: http://pastebin.com/6np9QwuG
[20:01] <ikonia> OerHeks: looks a good find
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | Dr_Willis
[20:02] <ikonia> hastings: check out OerHeks's link, I'm having a little look around at that card
[20:02] <hastings> okay!
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> well im not really captureing a 'screen capture' but video direct from the usb encoder. :) i will check that out. it may do both. under windows it seemed most of their screen capture apps would not also capture from the usb device. (guess it would be a 'webcam capture' app then.
[20:04] <OerHeks> hastings, some router do have an option to select your MAC adress and keep the B/G mode selected, that is the other workaround
[20:04] <dacs> ikonia: i am lost
[20:04] <anonymous_> We are anonymoys
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> whois anonymous_
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[20:04] <ikonia> anonymous_: not really, how can we help you ?
[20:04] <dacs> i saw in the forum the ES1000 is not longer supported by linux
[20:04] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: zoneminder maybe?
[20:04] <ikonia> dacs: is that your card ?
[20:04] <anonymous_> idk whats up
[20:05] <ikonia> anonymous_: this channel is for ubuntu support/discussion,
[20:05] <dacs> ikonia: yes
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> kazam seeme neat however. :) for some of my other tasks.
[20:05] <ikonia> dacs: that's not good then if it's lost support
[20:05] <h00k> anonymous_: offtopic discussion can happen in #ubuntu-offtopic, if it's not support related
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: kazam is very nice and clean recordings :p
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> kazam only does screen capture  it seems.
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> unless im missing some settings (exploreing it now)
[20:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> I believe it's only screen capture
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> i never managed to make kazam record sound
[20:07] <hastings> ikonia: I tried to follow the link's advice, but when I ran "sudo rmmod iwlwifi" it returned "Error: Module iwlwifi is not currently loaded"
[20:07] <Dr_Willis> I know vlc can do it. :) and most likely ffmpeg, or mencoder directly can. i just want somthing rather simple i can set up for the wife. shes going to pop in a VCR tape for 'transfer' hit play on the vcr. and record on the app. (basically) and hopefully it wont record 12+ hrs of static whenthe tape is done. ;)
[20:07] <holstein> Dr_Willis: vlc, kdenlive, avidemux
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> avidemux dosent capture from the video device that i can tell. it was first thing i tried.
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: neither do it, but the video quality and size are fantastic dont they
[20:08] <holstein> Dr_Willis: im not sure you'll find an open source solution with high "spouse approval"
[20:08] <lotuspsychje> !info zoneminder
[20:08] <Poisoned_Dragon> guvcview might be able to record from a usb capture device
[20:09] <Dr_Willis> Heh - 'cheese' can capture the video! ;) but lets see if it has a timer feature
[20:09] <holstein> cheese would be the easiest.. but i found the audio got out of sync quickly
[20:10] <dacs> ikonia: ubuntu forum say to use radeon open source driver
[20:10] <ikonia> dacs: I do'nt think it does, as ubuntu forums are down
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> time for a test capture in cheese
[20:11] <dacs> ikonia: i know its down , but you still can use it , thats what i did
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Cheese is not previewing the audio for me in its capture. or when just showing the video capture preview.
[20:11] <holstein> dacs: so, you are using the driver that the forums suggest? the open one? that works 'out of the box' ?
[20:11] <Gheyboy_Advance> I'm gay
[20:11] <dacs> ikonia: in g00gle you just have to choose chaced version of the site
[20:12] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Gheyboy_Advance
[20:12] <dacs> Gheyboy_Advance: if thats your way , that is okay !!!! lol
[20:12] <ikonia> dacs: do you mean "google" ?
[20:12] <dacs> ikonia: no i am not using it yet, i was consulting with you
[20:12] <dacs> ikonia: yes sire
[20:13] <dacs> ikonia: opps i typed 00 lol
[20:13] <dacs> a bit of rum will make you do that
[20:13] <dacs> :S ..apologies @ ikonia
[20:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> Dr_Willis, try guvcview
[20:14] <dacs> holstein: not understanding your question ...sorry
[20:14] <holstein> dacs: you say the forums suggest the open driver, is that what you are using?
[20:15]  * dacs btw i have to kvm between this windows and my other box to get the info so excuse any delay please
[20:15] <dacs> holstein: i have no clue which driver i am using , this is a fresh install as i mentioned earlier
[20:16] <holstein> dacs: the open driver is what would be running, out of the box, on a fresh install, assuming you havent made any changes
[20:16] <dacs> 'lsmod or what should i use to inform me
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> Poisoned_Dragon:  heh - that one seems to core dump.
[20:16] <Dr_Willis> well seg faults
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> ouch
[20:16] <dacs> holstein: how can i tell please
[20:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wonder why
[20:17] <holstein> dacs: as i said, if you didnt change it, thats what it is.. you can run "lspci -vv" in a terminal to confirm
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> Poisoned_Dragon:  ;)  scand and dosent find stuff..  init v4l2 failed.  but it was working in other apps.
[20:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> how odd
[20:17] <hastings> I'm thinking I need to install iwlwifi (intel wireless drivers) but http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi mentioned changing the firmware. Will that stop windows from using the wireless?
[20:17] <ihre> dacs, lspci -nn | grep vga?
[20:18] <ihre> or rather, grep VGA
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> hastings: what you change on ubuntu wont affect your windows
[20:18] <holstein> hastings: intel should be supported by default.. windows is a dual boot with linux? of so, linux will use it when booted, and windows will use it when booted
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> hastings: did you try what Oerheks pasted you?
[20:19] <dacs> ihre: Advanced Micro Device [AMD] nee ATI ES1000 (rev 02)
[20:19] <dacs> ihre: hi there!
[20:19] <jayman> hi guys, I'm trying to use my desktop that has an ENCORE electronics tv card to play with my ps3 because my TV died, I'm using the RCA cables for that but for the life of me I can't get any sound and the video comes out funny(like if it was on PAL/NTSC or viceversa) anyone has any clues of what I can do?
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: to "play with my ps3" ?
[20:20] <jayman> holstein, Playstation 3
[20:20] <hastings> I do not have access to change router settings
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: sure.. what does that mean?
[20:20] <dacs> ihre: what it looks like, it turns out it was a bad idea to switch from 10.10 to 13.04
[20:20] <holstein> jayman: you are tring to get a video card to accept an analog video/audio signal?
[20:20] <Dr_Willis> !10.10
[20:20] <ihre> how come, dacs?
[20:21] <jayman> holstein, a TV card, not a graphics card
[20:21] <dacs> ihre: it turns out the my ATI ES1000 is not supported anymore by linux
[20:21] <Dr_Willis> could alwyas test out the latest LTS if the latest has issues.
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: i would test 12.04 as Dr_Willis suggests
[20:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> Dr_Willis, can you use uvcdynctrl to access your device?
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: test it live
[20:22] <dacs> ihre: my desktop is lagging so bad
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> hastings: scroll few lines above that, the url about wireless N
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: also, you have not tried the proprietary driver AFAIK
[20:22] <holstein> dacs: you can also use something like xubuntu/xfce which might be "better" for that hardware, not requiring 3d, as unity does
[20:22] <dacs> holstein:how would i try that please
[20:23] <hastings> Lotus: I looked at that, when I tried the command it said that iwilwifi wasn't loaded
[20:23] <hastings> ikonia: I tried to follow the link's advice, but when I ran "sudo rmmod iwlwifi" it returned "Error: Module iwlwifi is not currently loaded"
[20:23] <jayman> I got the video working with mplayer so far, but it looks funny, I can't get the sound to work
[20:23] <holstein> dacs: i would download xubuntu 12.04 and try it live.. or refer to
[20:23] <holstein> !ati | dacs
[20:24] <dacs> when i start my box it say kubuntu
[20:24] <holstein> dacs: kde, or ubuntu both are heavy on the graphics, for older hardware
[20:24] <holstein> kde or unity*
[20:25] <ihre> dacs, have you tried the proprietary driver? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[20:26] <dacs> so i logged out and chose xbuntu and logged back in and it shows xfce and it is running nice
[20:26] <dacs> hmmm
[20:27] <holstein> dacs: xfce requires no 3d acceleration, which, in unity/kde could be helped with the driver folks keep mentioning
[20:27] <holstein> or, you can just use xfce
[20:28] <ihre> I'm reading the ATI ES1000 doesnt support 3d acceleration, so that might explain your problems, dacs
[20:28] <holstein> and, it likely *never* did.... you probably just used gnome2 in 10.10
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> hastings: how about you try to boot a previous kernel from grub?
[20:32] <hastings> I'm new to linux, do you mean download an older version, put it on a usb and boot from the usb?
[20:32] <doomlord> is there an option to keep the menu visible - bbenefit is you can see the entry to aim for benefit ,    and less flickering
[20:33] <dacs> xfce it is then
[20:34] <dacs> thank you all for helping me
[20:34] <dacs> i really appreciate it
[20:35] <occ> i have a aspire s7 ultrabook with ubuntustudio, every half an hour or so it will crash and i wont be able to move the mouse -touchpad or wired mouse.... is this a common issue?
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> doomlord:  not that ive ever noticed. You wouldent see the windows title then. - so its a trade off.
[20:39] <Dr_Willis> doomlord:  askubuntu.com may have some tweaks on it however
[20:42] <doomlord> window title - if i've got many windows open, they have their own titles. If its maximized, there would be space for both the title and the menu (if the title really was too long, eg a long pathname,i'd be happy to truncate)
[20:43] <doomlord> option would be nice :)
[20:44] <reisio> smallfoot-: get some bigger feet!
[20:44] <reisio> smallfoot-: was it something you said? :p
[20:45] <smallfoot-> lol
[20:45] <smallfoot-> look at me, i got klined!!
[20:45] <reisio> hahah
[20:45] <reisio> ah, bored netops
[20:45] <smallfoot-> double klined!!
[20:45] <smallfoot-> that guy is a jerk
[20:45] <reisio> triple triple!
[20:45] <smallfoot-> noooooo
[20:45] <smallfoot-> but ye probably lol
[20:46] <reisio> why ban someone when you can just boot them over and over like a retard :p
[20:46] <smallfoot-> i said i luv black dick, and a white op banned me and klined me
[20:46] <reisio> oh, this is not the channel I thought it was...
[20:46] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys, easy question. How do I get a folder, or a document, on to the panel in Ubuntu? They don't seem to have an option for "add to panel" in their menu. Click dragging doesn't seem to work.
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  you could add an item to the 'quick lists' right click menu on the file manager icon perhaps.
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> I thought there used to be a default list there.. but im not seeing one now.
[20:49] <poz> hi for some reason my internet is not working
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> http://www.maketecheasier.com/easily-create-quicklist-for-ubuntu-unity-launcher/2011/06/06
[20:49] <poz> i am connected to my network and i can connect to irc
[20:50] <Anaxandridas> poz, it seems your internet is working just fine... And Dr_Willis, thank you.
[20:50] <poz> but i can not browse anything
[20:50] <reisio> Anaxandridas: right click on a thing, IIRC
[20:50] <willuser9> how do i get my computer out of grub rescue
[20:50] <danny1> Looking for a C ++ coder
[20:51] <poz> i am wondering if anyone can help me trouble shoot this error
[20:51] <Anaxandridas> reisio,  I can assure you I rightclick everything, when in doubt ;) Dr_Willis, it appears that that solution doesn't work for Cinnamon 1,4, but it was a very good solution, thank you :D
[20:52] <reisio> oh right you're using cinnamon
[20:52] <sirspazzolot> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916090/ here's my boot info. any ideas why windows is booting to a black screen? /dev/sdb is my primary device and grub2 is my bootloader; ignore all legacy grub and partitions on /dev/sda. worth noting: start of paste says windows 8 installed stuff to the mbr of /dev/sda. could this be my problem?
[20:52] <reisio> thought the point of cinnamon was to be like GNOME 2... i.e. right clicking
[20:53] <danny1> Where can I find a C ++ coder ?
[20:54] <pirate> @routed you suck
[20:54] <sgrong> sirspazzolot, can you confirm that you're not using GPT?
[20:54] <toto_> hello
[20:54] <danny1> toto you are a c ++ coder ?
[20:54] <toto_> Python coder
[20:55] <danny1> Hit me on PM
[20:55] <toto_> Wut?
[20:55] <danny1> Let's talk for the JOB PM
[20:55] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: I am on BIOS/MBR
[20:55] <sirspazzolot> both drives are MBR
[20:56] <occ> every half hour, ubuntu studio crashes on my aspire s7 and i cant move the mouse
[20:56] <occ> what is the likley cause of this
[20:57] <toto__> yo all
[20:57] <toto_> Yooo
[20:57] <Anaxandridas> reisio, all the PROGRAMS do that. Folders and documents don't.
[20:57] <reisio> occ: graphics or power saving
[20:57] <reisio> or both
[20:57]  * toto__ say 'bonjour' to everyone ^
[20:57] <Anaxandridas> You're right--that would be much easier. I can't seem to find a quick way to open any document, which is strange.
[20:57] <reisio> Anaxandridas: sounds like they have more work to do, then
[20:58] <reisio> Anaxandridas: you should be able to add a .desktop file link in there or something
[20:58] <reisio> Anaxandridas: what's on your panel right now?
[20:58] <occ> reisio, so how should i go about trying to fix it? i disabled all power saving stuff (set monitor to never sleep etc)
[20:59] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: any ideas?
[20:59] <tutubuntu> fuck
[21:00] <Anaxandridas> reisio, FF/Chrome, software center, terminal, and home folder--it treats the home folder like an app, not like a folder.
[21:00] <Anaxandridas> I do not know how to do the .desktop file link.
[21:00] <sirspazzolot> wait I just did it
[21:00] <sirspazzolot> bahaha
[21:01] <sirspazzolot> yeah, it was because of the mbr stuff on /dev/sda
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: run um...
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: egrep -ilr firefox ~/
[21:01] <sgrong> sirspazzolot: not really... when you say that windows is booting to a black screen, you mean you can't even reach the windows boot options?
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: from a terminal
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: it might give you an example .desktop file for your Firefox item
[21:01] <reisio> Anaxandridas: which you can copy and replace the executable of... with nautilus path/of/choice or something
[21:02] <sirspazzolot> sgrong: messing around with some of the partitions in the grub entry would yield different options... one was a 'failed boot try recovering' thing so I figured it was a partition specification thing. and it turns out this was correct, I just point stuff to look at /dev/sda for bios
[21:02] <sirspazzolot> it boots
[21:02] <occ> anyone installed ubuntu on an aspire s3?
[21:03] <Anaxandridas> It gave me a whole bunch of crazy stuff that isn't making  much sense... It mentions gdesklets, which I've already removed, even. Hmmm. Guess this isn't going to be easy. That's too bad, I found something Ubuntu DOES fail at.
[21:03] <occ> im thinking of getting one. ubuntu runs badly on my aspire s7, i heard it works well on the s3... but i want confirmation before i waste more money
[21:03] <poz> does anyone know how to change my dns server?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  the dash has a recently used docs feature i thought.  Im not clear on what you are trying to do exactly
[21:03] <poz> or fix it*
[21:03] <sirspazzolot> occ I ran ubuntu on my aspire from like six years ago
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> aspire 5735z
[21:04] <sirspazzolot> B)
[21:04] <occ> i see
[21:04] <Slart> poz: there is a file called /etc/resolv.conf that manages that.. that file might be overwritten by a dhcp-client as well so sometimes just editing might not be enough
[21:04] <Anaxandridas> Dr_Willis, I am simply trying to put a document on the panel, with all the apps. It does not offer "put on panel" in the menu for the document. Or for folders. Just for apps.
[21:04] <occ> and sirspaz you had no problems?
[21:04] <occ> like crashes or anything
[21:05] <Dr_Willis> Anaxandridas:  you could make a link to it into your ~/Desktop file i guess. ive never needed a file so much that i would put it in the panel. If i used the file enough, it would be the #1 (or near th top) of the Dash  list of files.
[21:05] <poz> what is a namesever?
[21:05] <reisio> server of names
[21:05] <poz> nameserver*
[21:06] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_server
[21:07] <poz> i can not go to that becuase my internet is not working
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> Yes, dragging it on to the desktop is always an option--an option that I'm using right now. But I was really keen on getting it on the panel. Dr_Willis.
[21:07] <poz> i am thinking it could be about a dns problem
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> Poz, restart your computer :P
[21:07] <mdh> !restart
[21:07] <poz> lol
[21:07] <poz> but i just turned it on...
[21:07] <Anaxandridas> So restart it.
[21:08] <Anaxandridas> If it's on, it's not restarting. If YOU'RE on, YOU'RE not restarting. So restart it.
[21:08] <Slart> poz: a name server is the computer that translates www.google.com to it's ip-address.. something like 111.222.333.444
[21:08] <poz> will try thought. just want to ask first, if i change my nameserver from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> will that mess anything up?
[21:08] <poz> though*
[21:08] <Slart> poz: it shouldn't.. in a normal network setup
[21:08] <poz> okay. then i will restart now
[21:09] <k3pl3r16> poz leave the ip 127.0.01 thats your local machine address and yes it can mess things up
[21:10] <jayman> hi guys, I'm trying to use my desktop that has an ENCORE electronics tv card to play with my ps3 because my TV died, I'm using the RCA cables for that but for the life of me I can't get any sound and the video comes out funny(like if it was on PAL/NTSC or viceversa) anyone has any clues of what I can do?
[21:11] <poz> hi, so i am back. same problem, restarting never fixed
[21:13] <Anaxandridas> Have you tried smashing the computer?
[21:13] <Slart> poz: ok, what was the problem you are trying to fix?
[21:13] <poz>  i think it is a dns problem
[21:14] <poz> i can not view any webpages
[21:14] <k3pl3r16> poz cn you ping them?
[21:14] <poz> but if i type in the ##.##.##.## thing, it works
[21:14] <reisio> Anaxandridas: :p
[21:14] <poz> no, pinging does not seem to work
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> do you get a reply back at all or just destination host unreachable
[21:15] <poz> "Destination Port Unreachable"
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> ok
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> are you using network manager?
[21:15] <poz> i dont think so
[21:15] <k3pl3r16> what desktop are you using?
[21:15] <poz> ubuntu 13.04
[21:15] <Slart> poz: ping www.google.com   doesn't work, I assume? but  ping <IP_ADDRESS>    works?
[21:16] <k3pl3r16> so atthe top in the right hand corner do you see 2 arrows or a symbol like a wave
[21:16] <poz> no, ping <IP_ADDRESS> fails too
[21:17] <poz> the wave symbol
[21:17] <Slart> poz: huh.. that just one of googles servers.. odd
[21:17] <ka1vgm> poz: I have had my ISP's dns' fail for a period of time. Also had the same when they changed some settings and needed to reboot my DSL modem for it to start working again.
[21:17] <Slart> poz: does ping <IP_ADDRESS> work?
[21:18] <poz> no
[21:18] <k3pl3r16> ok if try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143819/how-do-i-configure-my-static-dns-in-interfaces
[21:18] <poz> hummm, maybe it is a modem thing, i have not tryed restarting it yet
[21:18] <k3pl3r16> use the one that is the third answer down this will be easiest I think
[21:18] <poz> cant see that. it does not work
[21:18] <poz> lol if it worked then I would not have a problem
[21:19] <Anaxandridas> Poz, see, I told you to restart everything :P
[21:19] <poz> I cant restart the modem though. i am using it on my other computer
[21:19] <Anaxandridas> Step 1: Restart everything. Step 2: Reinstall everything. Simple :D
[21:19] <poz> reinstalling takes hours though
[21:19] <ka1vgm> poz: after you restart modem wait 5 minutes and restart router (if  separate) and then your pc.
[21:19] <k3pl3r16> poz can you ping the modem??
[21:21] <poz> pinging the modem does not seem to work, but i forget what I set the ip or what ever at
[21:21] <poz> the router and modem are the same thing
[21:22] <k3pl3r16> poz on th other comouter it should give you the default gateway this is the modem ip
[21:22] <k3pl3r16> pos try pinging that
[21:22] <ihre> poz, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[21:22] <ihre> should have the address of a nameserver
[21:23] <poz> yeah, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> works
[21:24] <bekks> That will always work.
[21:24] <ihre> thats localhost, that should always work ^_^
[21:24] <poz> lol
[21:24] <poz> well, i can always come back in a few hours after I can reset the router...
[21:25] <poz> its just weird that xchat (irc) works but nothing else
[21:26] <Anaxandridas> I figured out the solution, anyone want to know what it was?
[21:27] <poz> what?
[21:29] <malgorath> I installed Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit on a laptop with 2 hard drives. I can boot into the ubuntu hard drive fine but I am unable to boot the windows 8 from Grub 2, is there a wiki or guide on how to fix this? I have tried some googling but nothing I have found seemed to work.
[21:29] <poz> what happends when you try to boot into windows?
[21:30] <malgorath> grub errors on the boot. then I have to CTRL+ALT+DELETE to restart it
[21:30] <reisio> malgorath: pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:30] <malgorath> reisio, okay give me one
[21:31] <reisio> malgorath: install and use pastebinit
[21:31] <EricFisker> hey guys, are there any Kubuntu users here?
[21:31] <reisio> it should have a default
[21:31] <reisio> EricFisker: undoubtedly
[21:31] <malgorath> lol reisio just did :D
[21:32] <EricFisker> because I just discovered something awesome with KDE effects.
[21:32] <reisio> EricFisker: yeah?
[21:32] <malgorath> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916302/
[21:32] <EricFisker> go into desktop effects
[21:32] <EricFisker> check "Wobbly Windows"
[21:32] <launch> 1
[21:32] <EricFisker> and edit the settings by checking "Advanced Mode"
[21:32] <reisio> malgorath: now when you're trying to boot windows 8, you're trying the one that DOES NOT say 'recovery', right?
[21:32] <EricFisker> and then set the settings as follows:
[21:32] <malgorath> reisio, correct
[21:32] <EricFisker> stiffness: 38
[21:33] <EricFisker> drag: 100
[21:33] <EricFisker> move factor: 16
[21:33] <EricFisker> it gives you a really cool effect.
[21:34] <malgorath> reisio, if you want I can reboot and use my ipad to snap a pic of the error
[21:35] <reisio> EricFisker: so you have windows 8 and ubuntu and no other OSes?
[21:35] <reisio> oops wrong person
[21:35] <reisio> malgorath: ^
[21:35] <reisio> EricFisker: youtube
[21:35] <malgorath> reisio, correct just the 2, I have 2 500g HDDs and windows is on the primary, and ubuntu is on the secondary
[21:36] <EricFisker> wait, reisio, how did you know?
[21:36] <reisio> EricFisker: know what?
[21:36] <EricFisker> oh.
[21:36] <EricFisker> about the Windows and Linux thing.
[21:36] <EricFisker> I just read "oops wrong person"
[21:36] <reisio> malgorath: k
[21:36] <joshlegs> anybody on the alpha 13.10 release?
[21:37] <Slart> joshlegs: try in #ubuntu+1
[21:37] <joshlegs> ah thanks Slart
[21:37] <czesmir> malgorath: remove the windows
[21:37] <malgorath> czesmir, not possible right now
[21:38] <reisio> ericab: you get any particular error?
[21:39] <jhutchins> malgorath: Is it looking for secureboot?
[21:39] <jhutchins> malgorath: Describe the error.
[21:39] <malgorath> i'll reboot requickly and get a picture of the error
[21:40] <reisio> what the
[21:40] <jhutchins> malgorath: Describe the error.
[21:42] <malgorath> error: can't find command 'drivemap'. error: invalid EFI file path.
[21:42] <jhutchins> malgorath: You don't suppose there's an error with the uEFI file do you?
[21:43] <malgorath> jhutchins, was working fine before I installed ubuntu
[21:43] <genial2> Greetings. I've run into a little issue here and need some advice: I'm running 5 ubuntu servers on an ESXi-machine, one of them is a pure NFS-machine serving my harddrives to all the other instances. One of them is a Plex server, serving media to my various devices. Now I've noticed that sometimes the CPU-usage on the NFS-machine will skyrocket for short amounts of time, usually in unison with the Plex-machine. I'm wondering what this ...
[21:43] <genial2> ... could be a result of. Obviously Plex is requesting something that the NFS-box has a hard time loading, but it should only be a single media-file. Is harddrive-corruption/error a possibility here?
[21:43] <jhutchins> malgorath: Not sure how you did the grub install, grub _can_ cope with EFI just fine, but some people switch to BIOS mode, which won't work if Windows is expecting EFI.
[21:44] <jhutchins> malgorath: You may need to restore windows to get it back, look for windows documentation on how to repair the EFI.
[21:44] <jhutchins> malgorath: If you restore Windows, it will probably wipe out ubuntu, so you'll need to re-install, but read up on dealing with EFI and dual booting W8 first.
[21:45] <reisio> malgorath: try specifying the efi file path as at http://askubuntu.com/questions/211339/windows-8-wont-boot-after-installation-of-12-10
[21:45] <jhutchins> reisio: Good find.
[21:46] <reisio> well the find was easy :p
[21:46] <reisio> I just don't trust grub's auto cfg maker
[21:46] <reisio> it may well say the same thing after explicitly specifying the .efi path
[21:46] <jhutchins> malgorath: Linux has been working with EFI since at least '07, but we're finding new ways to break it with Windows.
[21:46] <reisio> but then you'd know for sure it isn't there
[21:48] <Streusel> 3 flood bots? O.o
[21:48] <Streusel> no ubuntu edge ad?
[21:49] <holstein> Sockseven: you might prefer the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.. this is the official support channel
[21:49] <holstein> Streusel: ^^
[21:50] <genial2> Are there any tools that will let me monitor the nfs-kernel-server to see what could be eating up the CPU for short periods of time?
[21:50] <jhutchins> genial2: top
[21:52] <tlopez> need to get a live ubuntu usb stick
[21:52] <tlopez> on ntfs filesystem
[21:53] <tlopez> what program to use
[21:53] <malgorath> okay here goes a reboot :D
[21:53] <holstein> tlopez: on fat32.. unetbootin
[21:54] <tlopez> need to use ntds for 12GB persistence
[21:54] <tlopez> alternativily need a program that can have 12GB persistance on FAT32
[21:54] <holstein> tlopez: when i want persistence, i just do a normal install... you can always create multiple partitions
[21:54] <holstein> tlopez: i would refer to any pendrive linux suggestion
[21:56] <litzo> hi
[22:02] <varunendra> tlopez, you can create a 700+ MB FAT32 for Live installation, and a 12GB ext3 partition for persistence.
[22:02] <bbonora> I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu server  from 10.05 to 12.04. when I run do-release-upgrade I get a message that says "Proxy '/' looks invalid" and then it says "no new release found"
[22:02] <bbonora> anybody know how to solve this?
[22:02] <bbonora> *10.04
[22:03] <usr13> bbonora: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:03] <Jlluis> holaa
[22:03] <bbonora> usr13: I did that
[22:03] <bbonora> that seems to work fine
[22:04] <varunendra> bbonora, are you using a proxy server in Synaptic's settings?
[22:05] <bbonora> varunendra: not sure? how would I figure that out?
[22:05] <zymogens> Have just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS. It says I have a 143 packages that can be updated. Anyone know the command to do that?
[22:05] <varunendra> bbonora, in Synaptic Package manager, Preferences > Network
[22:05] <bbonora> I feel like I need to change my sources.list file. I'm just not sure what to change them to
[22:05] <holstein> zymogens: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:05] <zymogens> thanks a mil.
[22:06] <holstein> bbonora: you shouldnt need to
[22:06] <bbonora> varunendra: I'm all command line
[22:06] <varunendra> bbonora, no idea how to check or change it then.
[22:06] <Malgorath> looks like I can't boot the repair partition either. so I just lost all my windows :-/
[22:07] <bbonora> holstein: I couldn't get the system to update. I changed "maverick" to "lucid" and it updated. Not sure if the two are related.
[22:07] <holstein> Malgorath: you can restore the windows boot loader
[22:07] <usr13> bbonora: Now-days, that is done *for* you.
[22:08] <varunendra> bbonora, can you give us the pastebin link of your sources.list file?
[22:08] <bbonora> sure
[22:08] <Malgorath> holstein, not sure how I could do that without being able to boot the rescue/recovery partition of windows
[22:08] <bbonora> give me a sec
[22:08] <holstein> Malgorath: a windows cd, AFAIK
[22:09] <Malgorath> holstein, this system came with no DVDs/CDs nor does it have a method to make a backup/recovery dvd
[22:09] <holstein> Malgorath: you might need to ask the manufacturer for a hard copy
[22:09] <usr13> Malgorath: Win7?
[22:09] <Malgorath> windows 8
[22:11] <usr13> Malgorath: Unfortunately, Win7 and Win8 require MS Windows install CD to reinstall the MS Windows boot loader.  And when  you call and ask for one, your vender will be more than happy to charge you about $30
[22:12] <Malgorath> usr13, does win8 use same bootloader as win7? I have 3 win7 OEM DVDs
[22:12] <usr13> Malgorath:  I don't know for sure.
[22:12] <holstein> Malgorath: since your machine is not booting, it literally wont hurt to try, but thats a question for a windows channel
[22:13] <pvl1> how do i purge in synaptic or aptitude, if possible
[22:13] <bbonora> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/kHcTCkzw
[22:13] <Jeruvy> Malgorath you may want to ask windows questions in ##windows, but it 'can'.
[22:13] <holstein> pvl1: i would just try autoremove
[22:13] <pvl1> holstein: are you sure that purges though?
[22:14] <hewhomust> pvl, tried sudo apt-get --purge remove something
[22:14] <pvl1> hewhomust: i know but im purging a lot, and i wanna do it visually
[22:14] <hewhomust> ok
[22:14] <pvl1> im trying to make a custom ubuntu live usb
[22:14] <holstein> pvl1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[22:14] <pvl1> and i wanna make an iso so i have copies
[22:15] <varunendra> bbonora, the file is normal, nothing wrong there.
[22:15] <pvl1> holstein: i guess i have to apt-get holstein alright thanks
[22:16] <holstein> pvl1: apt is about the only option left if you remove the others
[22:16] <holstein> pvl1: apt-get purge <package_name>
[22:17] <Sefid_par> Can I load module ip_tables to my vps?
[22:17] <usr13> Malgorath: "Insert the Windows 8 Installation Disc in your system's optical drive, or use a bootable USB"  (From:  http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/ )
[22:18] <bbonora> hmmm
[22:18] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm not sure, but for proxy configuration, maybe apt-config can show us something. Please give us pastebin link of "apt-config dump"
[22:18] <bbonora> restart?
[22:18] <usr13> Sefid_par: What?
[22:19] <Sefid_par> My vps seems not have ip_tables module loaded
[22:19] <Helpme1s> hey guys i need help ,,
[22:19] <Sefid_par> But I need ip_tables
[22:19] <ikonia> Sefid_par: normally that is because it's not a real ubuntu install, but a basterized version, with a incompatible module
[22:19] <ikonia> Sefid_par: please show me the output of uname -a
[22:19] <usr13> Sefid_par: sudo apt-get install iptables
[22:20] <Helpme1s> hello guys
[22:20] <hewhomust> hi help
[22:20] <Helpme1s> hewhomust can u help me ?
[22:20] <Sefid_par> 2.6.32-042stab078.28 #1 SMP Mon Jul 8 10:17:22 MSK 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:20] <hewhomust> lol i dont know
[22:20] <ikonia> Helpme1s: think about it, people can't help until you tell them the problem
[22:20] <hewhomust> what is it?
[22:20] <Helpme1s> can i tell you my problem ?
[22:20] <ikonia> Sefid_par: yes, that is the same problem
[22:20] <ikonia> Sefid_par: the module won't load
[22:21] <ikonia> Sefid_par: I've sen it about 20 times this week, you got an update from your VPS provider recently and it breaks the iptables modules
[22:21] <usr13> Helpme1s: Ask away, (that's how it works).
[22:21] <pvl1> Sefid_par: have you tried?
[22:21] <Sefid_par> pvl1: try what?
[22:21] <Sefid_par> ikonia: Is there another way to nat?
[22:21] <ikonia> Sefid_par: not really no, iptables is the correct way to do it
[22:22] <bbonora> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/kmDPsyMX
[22:22] <hewhomust> help, what exactly is the problem?
[22:22] <dennis> I am a student. I need a programming mentor because we have very crapy faculty in India. I feel lost as no else in university is interested in learning. All are after girls. I really want to learn how computers work. I dont care if I will have to study for 24 hours a day. I just need someone to show me a path. I can walk alone. Please help :(
[22:22] <hewhomust> dude just go after girls life will be easier lol
[22:23] <ikonia> dennis: that is not what this channel is about, sorry
[22:23] <Sefid_par> What is a good way to redirect connection to another host?
[22:23] <ikonia> dennis: talk to your tutors
[22:23] <Helpme1s> ok i just installed ubuntu 13.04 dual boot with windows 7 (im on windows 7 now) and there was no internet connection during the live cd or in the installed os it keep trying  to connect but always fail i tried to set my ip i set it like this (<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>) it connected but i still cant access the internet or update ..
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: iptables,
[22:23] <Sefid_par> :)
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: not trying to be awkward, but it's the right tool for the right job
[22:23] <ikonia> Sefid_par: talk to your VPS provider, and ask them to fix it
[22:23] <pvl1> Sefid_par: have you tried enabling the module?
[22:23] <hewhomust> deniis try #python
[22:23] <pvl1> ^^
[22:24] <dennis> ikonia: They have not even written a hello world program without looking at a book.
[22:24] <Sefid_par> pvl1: not yet
[22:24] <pvl1> Helpme1s: disable whatever settings youve enabled
[22:24] <ikonia> dennis: well, not what this channel is here for, sorry
[22:24] <usr13> Helpme1s: Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[22:24] <pvl1> Helpme1s: are you connecting wireless or wired
[22:24] <mJayk> Helpme1s: are you trying to connect via wireless or wired ?
[22:24] <hewhomust> print "hello world" there done
[22:24] <hewhomust> now you can say hello
[22:24] <Helpme1s> usr13 no it says server not found or something like this
[22:24] <ikonia> hewhomust: stop it - help people or don't but stop messing around please.
[22:25] <Helpme1s> i can ping <IP_ADDRESS> but i cant access my router page via browser
[22:25] <Helpme1s> wired
[22:25] <usr13> Helpme1s: sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:25] <Helpme1s> ok i will try that then come back
[22:25] <mJayk> Helpme1s: also check proxy settings
[22:26] <hewhomust> dennis/ ##C on freenode
[22:26] <Helpme1s> mjay i checked they was nothing
[22:26] <ikonia> hewhomust: stop it
[22:26] <Helpme1s> its totally fresh install
[22:26] <mJayk> Helpme1s: ah ok just a thought :) gl
[22:26] <Helpme1s> brb
[22:26] <hewhomust> im just suggesting potentially helpful channels
[22:26] <usr13> Helpme1s: ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>  To test.  Then see if you can resolve domain names;  ping -c3 av.com  (Add valid nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf file if needed.)
[22:26] <ikonia> hewhomust: they are random.
[22:27] <ikonia> hewhomust: the channel is for ubuntu support, please keep with that
[22:27] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm not sure if that is the reason, but the lines 160 and 161 (Acquire HTTP and Acquire HTTP Proxy "/") don't exist in my apt-config.
[22:27] <Sefid_par> usr13: FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.; does it mean that I can not load ip_tables?
[22:27] <Helpme1s> usr13  how do i add nameservers ?
[22:27] <ikonia> Sefid_par: as I told you earlier,
[22:27] <bbonora> varunendra: where would I set this? Is there a file I can edit?
[22:28] <usr13> Helpme1s: Edit /etc/resolv.conf
[22:28] <ikonia> Sefid_par: that's actually not the right module name
[22:28] <usr13> Helpme1s: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:28] <Helpme1s> usr13 the other name server (<IP_ADDRESS>) is not needed ?
[22:28] <varunendra> bbonora, do you have an "/etc/apt/apt.conf" file?
[22:29] <Sefid_par> ikonia: What is the exact name? netfilter?
[22:29] <bbonora> varunendra: let me take a look
[22:29] <ikonia> Sefid_par: there are multiple modules, for each different "table" in iptabvles,
[22:29] <ikonia> Sefid_par: you'll need to contact your VPS provider to get them to load though
[22:29] <Helpme1s> ok brb
[22:29] <Sefid_par> Ok, thanks
[22:30] <bbonora> varunendra: Yes! this is what it says Acquire::http::Proxy "/";
[22:30] <bbonora> Acquire :: http :: Proxy "/";
[22:30] <bbonora> should I just comment that out and try running it?
[22:31] <varunendra> bbonora, not sure if commenting in these files works, but try it anyway, then recheck "apt-config dump" to see if it took effect.
[22:32] <varunendra> bbonora, is that the only line in that file?
[22:34] <bbonora> varunendra: That's the only line. The comment seemed to work
[22:34] <varunendra> great! Retry then.
[22:35] <bbonora> varunendra: so... no more proxy error message but now it just says "No new release found"
[22:36] <varunendra> bbonora, just for reference, I don't have that file in my 12.04 default installation. Instead a apt-conf.d directory with random files.
[22:36] <atgc> hi guys, I was directed from a linuxmint-help channel to come here to ask about a driver problem
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: you using mint ?
[22:37] <atgc> ikonia: yes
[22:37] <bbonora> varunendra: I have the apt.conf.d directory as well. I think I might just delete that file
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: ok, so this is not the right channel
[22:37] <atgc> :(
[22:37] <ikonia> atgc: the mint channel you where in IS the right place
[22:37] <atgc> they couldn't figure it out
[22:38] <atgc> or at least the one person who was trying to help
[22:38] <varunendra> bbonora,  I think you  should also try the one file that contains the "Acquire :: http "" " line. To find that file - "grep -iR acquire /etc/apt/apt-conf.d"
[22:38] <ikonia> atgc: sorry about that, you'll need to wait for someone else in that channel to help
[22:39] <varunendra> bbonora, like I mentioned, the "Acquire::http "";" line also doesn't exist in my apt-config dump
[22:40] <bbonora> varunendra: okay, let me give that a try
[22:41] <bbonora> varunendra: looks like it's in a file called 50unattended-upgrades and 00CDMMountPoint
[22:43] <varunendra> bbonora, the first file is also present in my installation, but not that line in it.
[22:44] <bbonora> varunendra: it's commented out in the first file
[22:44] <bbonora> //
[22:45] <bbonora> :q!
[22:46] <smgordon> good afternoon
[22:48] <Sc0tty-> does anyone know how to place a irssi theme into the irsi folder? I can't find the folder
[22:49] <mJayk> Sc0tty-: isnt it hidden in home
[22:49] <bbonora> when I try to run update-manager is says that the command doesn't exists
[22:49] <Sc0tty-> how do I find it? (I am a noob)
[22:49] <varunendra> bbonora, maybe we are looking in the wrong place, since normal updates seem to be working.
[22:49] <varunendra> bbonora, which command ?
[22:50] <mJayk> Sc0tty: try cd /home/USERNAME/.irssi
[22:50] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi#Enhancing_Irssi
[22:50] <bbonora> update-manager -d
[22:50] <Slart> Sc0tty-: normally linux programs have directories in your home-directory.. so irssi would have a directory called .irssi where it stores personal settings and such.. the starting dot makes this hidden normally in nautilus, CTRL+H should show you these hidden files
[22:50] <Sc0tty-> thank you mate
[22:51] <mJayk> Sc0tty-: nps hope it helps
[22:52] <bbonora> varunendra: here is what it says when I run sudo apt-get install update-manager - http://pastebin.com/r0GQX0an
[22:53] <Sc0tty-> I got it thanks
[22:53] <bbonora> I think I need to install synaptic
[22:53] <varunendra> bbonora, your original installation is maverick?
[22:53] <bbonora> I believe so
[22:53] <bbonora> it's been a long time
[22:54] <varunendra> bbonora, check the output of "lsb_release -d
[22:54] <bbonora> ubuntu 10.10
[22:56] <varunendra> bbonora, I'm quite sure this is the reason. Upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 is simply not possible. A fresh installation is the only possible way it seems.
[22:56] <bbonora> varunendra: ah darn! okay, well I guess that's good to know
[22:57] <smgordon> Hello new here and new to ubuntu. both seem fairly easy to use so far
[22:58] <varunendra> bbonora, LTS to LTS upgrade is possible (although it is also prone to breakage), but non-LTS to LTS with missing in-between versions is not possible.
[22:58] <varunendra> so there we are :) bbonora
[22:59] <bbonora> varunendra: thanks for your help. I guess I will just back up the files and transfer the files to a new instance.
[22:59] <nate15329> my server gets stuck at here time to time any ideas? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5916517/
[22:59] <varunendra> Good idea, and you're welcome ! bbonora
[23:01] <blazemore> !details | nate is that when it's booting?
[23:03] <nate15329> yes when booting, ubuntu server 13.04; it just started out of nowhere; i thought it was an pci-x sata card i added but nothing changed when i removed it
[23:05] <nate15329> im using the latest kernel...weird part is that when i boot into the recovery mode it does that no matter what & hangs
[23:06] <augustl> hey folks. I just installed i3 and logged in with it. Now a whole lot of nothing works :) Seems a lot of processes only starts up when using unity. Any suggestions on how to best use i3?
[23:07] <ikonia> augustl: i3 ?
[23:08] <Sc0tty-> This whole terminal business is daunting!
[23:08] <Helpme1s> hewhomust u there
[23:08] <augustl> ikonia: it's a window manager
[23:08] <ikonia> !info i3
[23:08] <ikonia> never heard of it, thank you augustl
[23:09] <Helpme1s> guys can i get help i have no internet conection on my ubuntu os
[23:09] <Sc0tty-> have you plugged the cable in?
[23:10] <Helpme1s> yes it says connected after i entered my ip adress but no internet
[23:10] <augustl> ikonia: seems a lot of stuff doesn't start up when not using unity
[23:10] <Helpme1s> im on windows 7 now i have ubuntu on dual boot
[23:10] <brassmonkey> shouldn't have to manually enter your ip address
[23:10] <augustl> currently running under vmware, none of the guest additions are running under i3, for example
[23:10] <ikonia> augustl: tjat seem wrong
[23:10] <ikonia> that
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, Ethernet or wifi, and can you identify the card, if it is internal lspci in the terminal should list it.
[23:11] <Helpme1s> brass i had to coz it fail to connect
[23:11] <mJayk> Helpme1s: seams daft does it work on any other devices?
[23:11] <Helpme1s> ethernet wired
[23:11] <augustl> yeah, it's a bit weird. Screen resolution borked, copy/paste not working, etc
[23:11] <Helpme1s> mjay huh ?
[23:11] <Helpme1s> wileenilee huh ?
[23:12] <mJayk> Helpme1s: Can you connect to the net via your router on any other devices
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, Huh is not an answer be specific.
[23:12] <Helpme1s> yes im on the same machine now
[23:12] <Helpme1s> wilee i dont know what is  internal lspci
[23:13] <Helpme1s> troll@troll-G41MT-ES2L:~$ ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:13] <Helpme1s> PING <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <Helpme1s> From <IP_ADDRESS> icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
[23:13] <FloodBot1> Helpme1s: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <Helpme1s> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[23:13] <Helpme1s> 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 2015ms
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, if the card is internal, you can run in the terminal lspci it will list hardware find the ethernet card and post it
[23:14] <brian234> Hi, I remember hearing about a command to create a folder that points to a network or internet location, but the OS thinks of it as a regular folder. What is this command called?
[23:15] <jrib> brian234: sshfs perhaps if you mean over ssh
[23:15] <brassmonkey> is there a newer project than libimobiledevice thats working to get ios devices to sync music?
[23:15] <crankygeek01> T
[23:16] <brian234> jrib: thanks that was just what I need
[23:16] <Helpme1s> wilee the name of the card is "Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
[23:16] <Helpme1s> " im now online via windows 7 and i got ubuntu on dual boot
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> !Realtek
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, ^^^^^
[23:17] <ubuntivity> Hello everyone, I've performed 4 new updates today on my Ubuntu 12.04, but I noticed it became markedly slower to boot and load after entering my user password. What is exactly wrong?
[23:17] <Helpme1s> whats thats supposed to mean ?
[23:18] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, read the posts what do you see ubottu referencing?
[23:19] <Helpme1s> oh thank you very much
[23:19] <wilee-nilee> Helpme1s, I can be confusing if you have not been here or used to it ubottu is a bot. ;)
[23:20] <wilee-nilee> It rather then I heh
[23:22] <Helpme1s> wilee may i ask a question ?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Not a normal occurrence so details are important for the channel.
[23:23] <lonewulf85> Ubuntu Linux is now my new favorite OS. I <3 Ubuntu
[23:23] <ubuntivity> What are the useful details, wilee-nilee ?
[23:23] <bejker> hi
[23:23] <bejker> cane someone help me with alsarc?
[23:24] <Helpme1s> the link u gave me is about "rtl8187b" my lan card is rtl8139
[23:24] <Helpme1s> how im going to update my driver with other model files ?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, cpu speed and ram, what was part of updates, any additional installs, the release your running. Basically what you have described should not be happening, is this a feeing or are you sure?
[23:26] <ubuntivity> CPU Speed: Core i3 2.20GHz, RAM: 4GB, don't remember the updates, though. Can I find them in a log or something?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, so what is the difference in speed, how long is the boot now?
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> bejker, The channel works with you stating your issues to start with.
[23:29] <ubuntivity> Didn't count the seconds, but something clear to notice is the loading of the login screen, usually it loads with my wallpaper instantly, but now I can see the violet background for more than a second until my regular wallpaper shows in the login screen..
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, When did you install?
[23:31] <lauratika> is it possible to use BitTorrent Sync to share files among different accounts on same pc in ubuntu 12.04??
[23:31] <ubuntivity> Today, wilee-nilee.
[23:31] <ubuntivity> about 3 hours ago
[23:32] <ubuntivity> Wait, you mean when did I update or when did I install this version of Ubuntu?
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> 1 second is not markedly sounds normal so far honestly with more exacting measurement at least to me ubuntivity
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> without*
[23:32] <ubuntivity> I have this ubuntu installation for about 3 months
[23:33] <ubuntivity> There is other delay after I login, which is about 4 seconds with nothing but the wallpaper and the mouse (it wasn't that way before)
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Not sure, sorry.
[23:34] <ubuntivity> How can I find what were the last 4 updates? Where can I find the log (if any)?
[23:35] <tgm4883> ubuntivity, /var/log/apt/history.log
[23:36] <lauratika> is there a bit torrent channel here
[23:36] <lauratika> sorry freenode?
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, what irc app are you using, many have a channel search
[23:37] <lauratika> opera
[23:38] <Martijn-NL> wilee-nilee: I'm using xChat :-)
[23:38] <ubuntivity> Here are the latest updates that I suspect might cause my Ubuntu 12.04 to slow down: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5916579/
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> lauratika, #bittorrent
[23:38] <ubuntivity> *might caused
[23:38] <Martijn-NL> lauratika: Use Ubuntu software centre to install xChat on your system....
[23:41] <lauratika> Martijn-NL: no thanx opera works great... thanx wilee-nilee
[23:42] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, Please do not quote me but aside from the lightdm updates the other ones are sql updates which just to my knowledge help you computer communicate better on the INTERNET and with servers. Is it web browsing that is getting slow?
[23:43] <ubuntivity> No, lonewulf85. Web browsing is OK. So, what lightdm is used for?
[23:44] <Ben64> !info lightdm
[23:44] <ubuntivity> Then I suspect it might be the cause, does that make sense?
[23:44] <Ben64> thats not very informative... "LightDM is a cross-desktop display manager that aims is to be the standard display manager for the X.org X server. The motivation for this project is there have been many new display managers written since XDM (often based on the XDM source). The main difference between these projects is in the GUIs (e.g. different toolkits) and performance - this could be better accomplished with a common display manager th
[23:44] <Ben64> at allows these differences. "
[23:44] <Ben64> from the lightdm website
[23:45] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, lightdm is just the desktop manager it could cause the issue but it is not very likely I do not think.
[23:46] <ubuntivity> Is there a way to downgrade that particular package? to see if the slowing behaviour change?
[23:46] <Ben64> ubuntivity: if i had to guess, i would blame unity on it loading slow, maybe you're using unity3d and used to use 2d?
[23:46] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, are you in an actual install or is this a vmware installation?
[23:46] <dlaflamme> MLE
[23:46] <ubuntivity> Ben64: I've always used Unity3D, lonewulf85: It is an actual install.
[23:46] <jrib> ubuntivity: lightdm is a login manager
[23:47] <ubuntivity> jrib: That
[23:47] <ubuntivity> jrib: That's exactly what is slowing down here! (check my previous messages above)
[23:47] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, does the machine have a 32bit cpu or x64?
[23:47] <ubuntivity> an x64 processor (Core i3) but a x86 installation
[23:47] <jrib> ubuntivity: create a fresh new user, see if issue persists
[23:47] <Ben64> once you put in the password, lightdm doesn't really do anything else but start the environment (unity)
[23:48] <ubuntivity> Going to do so jrib, Ben64: that's where the slowing occurs, once the environment is loaded, the speed is as I used to.
[23:48] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I bring this up because my little acer netbook has an x64 processor and with the 32bit install it runs slow but with the 64 bit it is fine.
[23:49] <KeyboardNotFound> When ubuntu forums will back ?
[23:49] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: try #ubuntuforums
[23:50] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: I noticed this recent noticable slowing down today after I updated installed packages..
[23:50] <KeyboardNotFound> jrib, Thanks, I will try
[23:50] <lonewulf85> Also for anyone who might need it take a look at this http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/06/11-tips-to-speed-up-computers-running.html please use carefully some could be harmful if used incorrectly
[23:51] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, one sec I have an application that might help let me find the link. I use it a lot.
[23:52] <mr-tech> hello how are you
[23:52] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, The application is ubuntu tweak it is great because of the janitor feature.
[23:52] <itgeekwhisperer> good evening everyone
[23:52] <ubuntivity> I already have it, so should I perform a 'clean up'?
[23:52] <mr-tech> Hello every one
[23:53] <ubuntivity> welcome mr-tech, itgeekwhisperer
[23:53] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, If you are familiar with Windows os application it would be comparable to ccleaner
[23:54] <ubuntivity> Didn't use ccleaner on Windows, and no more using Windows :|   So, what does it do?
[23:54] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I would try and see if that helps. I run the clean up after every set of updates FYI about once a week.
[23:54] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, It just frees up space an your system by cleaning up the caches filed.
[23:54] <mr-tech> This is my first time here
[23:55] <ubuntivity> I've once heard that clean ups might slow things down because they removed cached stuff and re-caching them takes time, is that true? or is there any truth in that at all??
[23:55] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: I hope you'll have a nice and beneficial time here :)
[23:55] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I am not sure it has not been my experience but everyones hardware is different.
[23:56] <mr-tech> ubuntivity do you run that though the termemal
[23:56] <ubuntivity> I'll perform the clean up as long as you are doing it safely ^_^ lonewulf85
[23:57] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: What do you mean? the IRC client?
[23:57] <mr-tech> yes
[23:57] <xiudo> LOL mr-tech i like that name
[23:57] <xiudo> :D
[23:57] <mr-tech> thanks
[23:58] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I have not had an issue because of it yet, although I did have to re install earlier today because of some line I messed up in a system file by accident ;)
[23:58] <ubuntivity> mr-tech: No, I'm running it now from Firefox browser through webchat.freenode.net, but I sometimes run it from terminal (I use weechat)
[23:58] <ubuntivity> lonewulf85: should I clean all the entries in that janitor?
[23:59] <lonewulf85> ubuntivity, I usually save the most recent kernels.