[00:00] <b1llydev> i'm having trouble finding my apache config files
[00:00] <b1llydev> anyone have any idea
[00:00] <b1llydev> how i can go about finding these
[00:00] <phil_> my bfg geforce 9800gt graphics card keeps crashing :(
[00:00] <vouth> helena: I'm looking, and have the 'cursor theme' panel there. Probably I'm just being stupid but I don't see where to change the size…
[00:00] <ssbr_> ugh
[00:00] <e2b04836> b1llydev: /etc/apache2
[00:01] <XiaolinDraconis> anyone on 11.10 have luck changing the cursor? completely
[00:01] <vouth> helena: where is it?
[00:01] <b1llydev> e2b04836: thanks, what does the etc folder contain? just all application config files?
[00:01] <helena> vouth: in fact I am not sure, but i think i already changed it in the 'computer administration' > 'keyboard & mouse'
[00:01] <e2b04836> it contains a lot
[00:01] <e2b04836> including config files
[00:01] <vouth> helena: ok, thanks… I'll look there
[00:01] <iToast> You guys
[00:01] <Holehearted> e2b04836, postgres is also 1000 in the booted up enviornment ... Maybe this is changed in a script during the boot process? I just don't want to break anything related to postgres.
[00:02] <iToast> Ubuntu on p4 with 512 mb ram or amd cpu with 1gb ram
[00:02] <Holehearted> iToast, what are you wanting to do with it?
[00:02] <Holehearted> iToast, it's really just up to you
[00:02] <iToast> Holehearted: web server and reuse the rest of the diskspace as a network drive
[00:02] <iToast> or a external HDD as a network drive.
[00:03] <e2b04836> Holehearted: to be honest i'm really not sure and i don't want to give you advice that'll end up breaking something
[00:03] <phil_> HOW DO I USE A .RUN FILE IN UNBUNTU 11.10???????????
[00:03] <e2b04836> wow, don't shout please
[00:04] <helena> vouth: if you don't find it, in the 'mouse' section, in 'cursor theme', you can install new themes
[00:04] <Holehearted> iToast, you don't need 1GB RAM for a personal web server and NAS, if that helps you make the decision any
[00:04] <phil_> i want to install a graphics driver help
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: best to not use caps if you want a response
[00:04] <iToast> Holehearted: Any guides on using it as a NAS
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: don't use a .run file, what card do you have, nvidia or ati
[00:04] <Holehearted> e2b04836, alright, thanks
[00:04] <helena> vouth: themes with a bigger cursor size may certainly exist
[00:04] <cgkades> phil_: chmod +x the .run file
[00:04] <iToast> simple guides. as in not secure it.
[00:04] <e2b04836> phil_: chmod +x <file> then ./<file>
[00:04] <cgkades> phil_: then ./<file>
[00:04] <phil_> iknonia: have nvidia
[00:04] <just4fun> ty l xangua i try asap
[00:04] <iToast> Holehearted: the nas doesnt need to be secure :)
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: use the hardware drivers tool
[00:04] <ikonia> phil_: then supported drivers will be installed
[00:05] <ikonia> phil_: the ones provided from .run can provide long term problems
[00:05] <Nach0z> alright got a new issue for yall. I'm trying to boot from a Ubuntu 11.04 CD-R I just burned, and it says getpwuid_r() failed due to unknown user ID 0. then the installer hangs at "skipping nonexistent file" etc etc. any ideas?
[00:05] <vouth> hmm, thanks. Basically the problem is I'm actually using GNOME but I have KDE installed and use them sort of side-by-side. The GNOME size is pretty small — how I like it — the whiteglass theme, but when I choose whiteglass in KDE it gets big in KDE programs suddenly.   I remember in older versions there was a blacklist in the Login Screen control panel to list accounts you didn't want shown on the login screen.  Where do I go to edit that now? It's no longer in that control panel.
[00:07] <Holehearted> iToast, what weren't you able to accomplish?
[00:07] <iToast> Holehearted: Allowing network'ed machines to access the nas
[00:07] <vouth> In Itune$, there is a way to display each album with the cover art in a column to the left (I don't know what that's called). Is there anything similar in Banshee?
[00:07] <phil_> lasts about 5 mins then crashes
[00:08] <phil_> has the same problem windows 7 thats why i swapped to unbuntu and it still dont work :(
[00:08] <Holehearted> iToast, how do you want them to be able to access it? FTP? HTTP? SMB?
[00:08] <phil_> think i might just give up and buy a different card
[00:08] <iToast> Im not shrue how to explain
[00:08] <iToast> Using samba so it can be mapped as a network drive
[00:09] <Holehearted> Samba = SMB
[00:09] <Holehearted> @iToast
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, that first link in google looks like a pretty complete guide...
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, http://www.danielandrade.net/2011/08/29/diy-home-ubuntu-nas-server/
[00:10] <iToast> i never got that one before
[00:10] <iToast> I googled "How to use ubuntu server as a NAS"
[00:10] <ikonia> iToast: if you can't do the research - stop doing it
[00:10] <iToast> ikonia: No.
[00:10] <ikonia> iToast: you seem to struggle finding guides, let alone following them
[00:10] <Holehearted> lol
[00:10] <iToast> Google is FAR from perfect.
[00:10] <Holehearted> iToast, Google Fu, learn it
[00:11] <iToast> Search computer mosue and youl get images of a cat.
[00:11] <ikonia> iToast: yes, but everyone else finds the guides, you don't
[00:11] <ikonia> iToast: you where even given a direct link in #mysql - and said you "couldn't find a guide"
[00:11] <e2b04836> iToast: have you considered FreeNAS?
[00:11] <theberg> or your google foo is weak
[00:11] <Holehearted> iToast, notice how I only searched for "Ubuntu NAS" and I got a kickass result?
[00:11] <iToast> Holehearted: ...
[00:11] <timClicks> I would like to be able to load a laptop straight into a terminal.. e.g. without ubuntu-desktop
[00:11] <iToast> e2b04836:I considered and tried it with no success
[00:11] <histo> iToast: if I search for computer mouse I get pictures of computer mice
[00:11] <iToast> FreeNAS will not boot from a usb correctly. ever.
[00:12] <timClicks> can some one point me to instructions?
[00:12] <iToast> histo: I've managed to get alot of random results.
[00:12] <ikonia> iToast: with so little ram - don't run it from usb
[00:12] <iToast> ikonia: Im not running from usb, im installing.
[00:13] <Holehearted> iToast, installing via USB? Tried unetbootin?
[00:13] <iToast> Yes
[00:13] <iToast> Tried varios tools.
[00:14] <Holehearted> alright well that guide I linked you too looks like just what you're looking for
[00:14] <iToast> Ty
[00:14] <Octane> anyone know the trick to getting pidging to connect google talk
[00:14] <Amdpc> Hi...I want the weather applet make work on 11.10...Any idea ?
[00:14] <Holehearted> Octane, http://www.google.com/
[00:14] <Octane> Holehearted ?
[00:15] <iToast> Hey anyone else have issues with chrome lately?
[00:15] <Holehearted> I forgot what it was like to be on IRC... :|
[00:15] <iToast> You know, since flash became perma part of chrome.
[00:15] <Octane> if youre suggest i google, i tried a bunch of stuff people have suggested and cant get it to work
[00:15] <histo> !ask | iToast
[00:15] <histo> !detail
[00:16] <Amdpc> Octane : Accounts -> Manage Accounts -> Add Google Talk ...!
[00:16] <iToast> histo: i wasent asking to ask?
[00:16] <histo> !details
[00:16] <iToast> ...
[00:16] <iToast> I did
[00:16] <histo> iToast: sorry that was the factoid I was looking for
[00:16] <iToast> oh
[00:16] <Octane> Amdpc <3
[00:16] <Holehearted> lol
[00:16] <iToast> Anywyas, anyone suffer crashes and hangs inchrome when more then 5 pages load flash at a time.
[00:16] <histo> iToast: I'm using chromium here and no
[00:17] <iToast> Wierd.
[00:17] <ascheel> Problem with natty.  Did apt-get distupgrade after a month or two of no updates.  After update and reboot, WIRED network adapter is 'unclaimed' in 'lshw'.  Chipset is RTL8111 / 8168B
[00:17] <iToast> Chrome randomly hangs with flash on windows and mac
[00:17] <Amdpc> Octane : Worked or not ?
[00:17] <histo> iToast: although chromium does not have flash built in
[00:17] <iToast> lol
[00:17] <iToast> Lucky.,
[00:17] <histo> iToast: and with chrome you'd be better off asking in #windows or #mac
[00:18] <ascheel> s/distupgrade/dist-upgrade/
[00:18] <yacc> Anyone got an idea how to disable AHCI? I've put my BIOS in IDE mode, but 10.04.3 still happily enables ahci during boot, ...
[00:18] <iToast> histo: I was just asking a question
[00:19] <ascheel> nevermind on my question...  the upgraded added a modprobe blacklist for this chipset.  WTF?
[00:19] <shadowh511> quick question
[00:20] <novatore> ciao
[00:20] <novatore> list!
[00:20] <shadowh511> oneric is getting to a black screen on boot
[00:21] <Toph2> iToast,,, both Firefox and chrome cause my ubuntu 11.10 to hang up,, Firefox moreso than chrome
[00:21] <OffGridOps> ubuntu 11.10:  my camera (nikkon) saves movies in .MOV when I put them on my desktop they don't play but rather skip and only about 3 seconds of sound.  They work fine in W*ndows7.  Any suggestions as I have just about every repository I can think of installed.  Thanx
[00:21] <asava> OffGridOps: these 1080p videos?
[00:22] <ascheel> shadowh511: that's not a question.  just sayin'
[00:22] <OffGridOps> yeah probably as that's what the camera records hd i think
[00:22] <Octane> aww man i should have installed kubuntu
[00:22] <shadowh511> ascheel: i know, I am getting info
[00:22] <asava> i have a Canon 5d Mk ii
[00:22] <ascheel> ;)
[00:22] <asava> and only player that will play them natively
[00:22] <ascheel> asava: /jealous
[00:22] <asava> mplayer
[00:22] <OffGridOps> it's a camera nikkon cool picL110
[00:22] <asava> everything else takes a dive
[00:22] <asava> vlc gets choppy
[00:23] <asava> run mplay filename.mov from the commandline
[00:23] <iToast> Toph2: Firefox sucks now :/
[00:23] <asava> and you should be good
[00:23] <shadowh511> ascheel: could an old video card stop lightdm from statrting?
[00:23] <ascheel> shadowh511: ask the channel, bud.  ;)  Not me.
[00:23] <OffGridOps> ok will try and be back thanx for your quick reply!  ;)
[00:23] <shadowh511> could an old video card stop lightdm from statrting?
[00:23] <Toph2> iToast,,, is it flash causing the issues?
[00:23] <iToast> Toph2: Yes
[00:23] <Toph2> i see
[00:23] <iToast> Flash hangs core i7's.
[00:24] <e2b04836> true story
[00:24] <iToast> Holehearted: That link you sent me is trash.
[00:24] <Toph2> iToast,,, what is the solution,,, besides restricting the number of tabs open?
[00:24] <iToast> Toph2: Remove flash.
[00:24] <Toph2> iToast,,, how do I do such?
[00:24] <ubufanity> hi everyone
[00:25] <iToast> sypatic package manager
[00:25] <OffGridOps> @asava:  no mplayer installed
[00:25] <boldfilter> How do you get the dashboard launcher back from 11.04
[00:25] <Toph2> iToast,,, ok,, trying
[00:25] <asava> try installing it
[00:25] <OffGridOps> No command 'mplay' found, did you mean
[00:25] <asava> pretty sure it was mplayer
[00:25] <asava> let me double check
[00:25] <OffGridOps> ok be back in a sec
[00:26] <vouth> I am getting no sound output. I have the cable plugged into the headphone port on the front of the computer. I have checked that nothing is muted. The output device is 'Simultaneous Output', the only available device. What could cause this?
[00:26] <asava> yeah it's mplayer
[00:26] <asava> use your package manager to install
[00:26] <asava> pretty lightweight package
[00:26] <yacc> Anyway to make Ubuntu not use a certain module (ahci.ko to be specific) in initramfs?
[00:27] <OffGridOps> mplayer is installed
[00:27] <OffGridOps> do i need to run sudo?
[00:27] <asava> to install mplayer yes
[00:27] <asava> to watch the video, no
[00:27] <helena> vouth: your audio card may not recognized by the system ?
[00:28] <OffGridOps> mplayer is installed checked it thru the software center
[00:28] <OffGridOps> if its called movie player i used it to try to open the videos earlier
[00:28] <asava> so go to the directory the .mov is in, and run mplayer yourmovie.mov
[00:28] <asava> run it from command line
[00:28] <vouth> helena: Perhaps. How would I check?
[00:29] <OffGridOps> ah going there now
[00:29] <ekirnet> que es esto ??
[00:29] <sumosu> duh. looking for an up to date how to on mounting an .iso in grub2
[00:30] <histo> sumosu: you mean booting an iso in grub2?
[00:30] <sumosu> histo: yes. but not emergency wise
[00:31] <almoxarife> on a normal working no glitch 11.10 at a restart I see ' asking ....... all process to stop  Failed" it's the only fail and it does not seem to effect anything, the question is where did it get logged? I want to know what fails everytime
[00:31] <histo> sumosu: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB this page will provide some insite
[00:31] <sumosu> histo: i would like to have it selectable from grub2.
[00:32] <histo> sumosu: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/how-to-boot-iso-with-grub2-easy-way.html
[00:32] <e2b04836> almoxarife: /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages
[00:32] <histo> sumosu: aparently unetbootin can create grub menu entries for you
[00:32] <eselle> not sure if this is an ubuntu or vmware issue, but im trying to install ubuntu within a VM on my windows 7 machine but when I try to give my computer a name it just says 'That name already exists on the network' even through the names are unique
[00:32] <sumosu> histo: thanks i'm gonna give it a shot
[00:33] <histo> eselle: which computer provides that error?
[00:33] <eselle> histo, its the only virtual machine
[00:33] <sumosu> histo: uh wait that won't work because i have to specify a partition
[00:34] <helena> vouth: sudo aplay -l
[00:35] <helena> vouth: if you see 'no soundcard found' it is not good :)
[00:35] <leftist> test
[00:36] <eselle> ah, I apparently needed to put in a password
[00:36] <eselle> odd error
[00:37] <savid> Is there somewhere on an ubuntu server where it's  hostname is stored other than in /etc/hostname?   I've installed a service that's apparently trying to use the old hostname,  but I changed the hostname before I started the service.    The "hostname" command shows the new hostname.
[00:37] <vouth> helena: it says: "**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****".
[00:37] <OffGridOps> @asava:  so i went and manually reinstalled everything following:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-mplayer-and-multimedia-codecs-libdvdcss2w32codecsw64codecs-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric.html#more-12577
[00:38] <asava> work?
[00:38] <vouth> helena: That's all. I think it basically means 'no soundcard found'.
[00:38] <OffGridOps> I still get:  president@OffGridOps:~/Videos$ mplay Son Dancing.MOV
[00:38] <OffGridOps> No command 'mplay' found, did you mean:
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'bplay' from package 'bplay' (universe)
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'aplay' from package 'alsa-utils' (main)
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'cplay' from package 'cplay' (universe)
[00:38] <FloodBot1> OffGridOps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <OffGridOps>  Command 'play' from package 'sox' (universe)
[00:38] <asava> you need to type "mplayer" not mplay
[00:38] <sl00> Hi. I have 10 old computers (some maybe with different hardware). How can I get them to act as one single computer? I also want to be able to add/remove computers to this "cluster" with ease.
[00:39] <helena> vouth: yes because normally, it is something like : **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[00:39] <helena> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0:  blabla
[00:39] <OffGridOps> ok
[00:39] <vouth> hmm.
[00:39] <asava> sl00: look into salt or puppet
[00:39] <vouth> helena: I guess that means I don't have a card installed. I thought the computer had onboard sound but I guess it doesn't!
[00:40] <vouth> helena: I'll install one then :-)
[00:40] <helena> :)
[00:40] <helena> vouth: good luck :
[00:40] <helena> :)
[00:40] <vouth> Next up is the compiler issue :-P
[00:40] <vouth> Thanks! :-D
[00:41] <vouth> helena: (As you can probably tell, I have about ten million issues at the moment :-D)
[00:41] <helena> vouth: i am not sure to find the others :p
[00:41] <sl00> asava: Is that for building a "super computer"?
[00:41] <vouth> hehe
[00:41] <asava> sl00: no it's for standardizing a group of computers
[00:42] <asava> which, could yes be clustered together to share tasks
[00:42] <e2b04836> savid: /etc/hostname
[00:42] <sl00> asava: Okey. I want to build a "super computer" (or whatever to call it) out of several computers to get more cpu and ram.
[00:42] <e2b04836> whoops, /etc/hostname should work*
[00:44] <Guest16822> dear Dr could I consider my fully updated version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be the equivalent of 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat for referencing purposes or is it more complicated than that ?
[00:44] <OffGridOps> @asava:  weird stuff.  says Son Dancing.MOV does not exist as Son and Dancing.  Does the same if I add ___
[00:44] <OffGridOps> I can simply change to mp4 though so no biggie
[00:45] <sumosu> hmm goona give the boot a shot:)
[00:45] <e2b04836> OffGridOps: the filename has spaces, put it in "s
[00:46] <OffGridOps> ok so like "Son Dancing".MOV or "Son Dancing.MOV"
[00:46] <asava> in a terminal you have to type Son\ Dancing.MOV
[00:46] <e2b04836> "Son Dancing.MOV"
[00:46] <asava> escape the space
[00:47] <OffGridOps> Homerun there e2b04836.  so yeah i need to get rid of the spaces i dumped the files from W*ndows.
[00:48] <OffGridOps> is mplayer the same thing as when it asks to run the video using Movie Player?
[00:48] <asava> nope
[00:48] <OffGridOps> so is there a gui type of way to play them or is this basically it then
[00:49] <asava> mplayer has a control panel you can call up
[00:49] <asava> i'll have to look, don't know off the top of my head
[00:49] <asava> i only use gui for a couple things
[00:49] <OffGridOps> ok i will read up on it and i really want to thank y'all for taking time to work w/me!  i always learn alot here!
[00:51] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: mplayer and movie-player are diff, movie-player is 'totem' (not bad for what it does) mplayer get all the attention though
[00:52] <OffGridOps> ultimately i will probably convert all the vids i have as i want to keep them on here.  i love ubuntu and been using it since 10.x days!
[00:53] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: and mplayer does have a nice gui, why have to learn how to do space shot/vectors when all you want is to watch something
[00:53] <almoxarife> !info mplayer-gui
[00:53] <asava> there are plenty of utilities for converting audio/video from one format to another
[00:54] <almoxarife> !info gnome-mplayer
[00:55] <OffGridOps> going to read on that right now thanx!
[00:55] <almoxarife> !info arista
[00:55] <xangua> !msgbot | almoxarife
[00:56] <sumosu> ok lol. isoboot attempt 1 failed miserably
[00:56] <ant0neo>  could I consider my fully updated version of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS to be the equivalent of 10.10 (Maverick Meerkat) for referencing purposes or is it more complicated than that ?
[00:57] <almoxarife> xangua: I was not investigating, I was offering up an app from a question
[01:00] <almoxarife> ant0neo: probably, I can't see anyone spitting hairs over the diff between the two
[01:00] <OffGridOps> Gnome mplayer is a winner!  thanx!
[01:01] <almoxarife> OffGridOps: glad the 'factoid' was of use
[01:03] <ant0neo> thanks almoxarife I am having issues configuring Skype and it is my camera which I have Ubuntu documentation that might assist though there is no mention of 10.04 LTS only 9.04 & 10.10 I heard that later versions of Ubuntu used different files that... .etc etc
[01:05] <justdave> I'm using 10.04LTS...  I remember in older versions there was a blacklist in the Login Screen control panel to list accounts you didn't want shown on the login screen.  Where do I go to edit that now? It's no longer in that control panel.
[01:05] <almoxarife> ant0neo: can you get the camera to work with vlc? without going all script-kiddie that is how I saw my camera just work
[01:06] <asava> google talk has some good libariers as well to get cameras to work
[01:06] <asava> but if you want to use skype, yeah
[01:06] <reki> grub isn't installed by default on the livecd?
[01:07] <reki> i'm trying to get to a grub prompt, but it isn't installed
[01:07] <Boreeas> Oh man, I timed out before getting an answer
[01:07] <almoxarife> ant0neo: get them people who want to skype to google/voice/video, then use pidgin to talk/see them, no reason video/chat needs to be hell
[01:07] <Boreeas> Let's try again
[01:07] <Boreeas> I got a broken pipe while having an rsh to a screen on a remote computer
[01:07] <Boreeas> So, now when I get back on, I'm obviously detached, but I can also not resume the screen
[01:07] <brendan6> What's are the different values the left most column of file permissions contain (as viewed by ls -la). Particularly what's the difference between crw-rw-rw- vs brw-------  I know columns 1..9 are permissions but what does bit 0 represent?
[01:07] <Boreeas> There is a screen on:	7350.minecraft	(16.12.2011 14:00:33)	(Attached)There is no screen to be resumed matching minecraft.
[01:07] <Boreeas> Any Iade how to fix this?
[01:08] <vouth> Whenever I try to build something, I get: "error: C compiler cannot create executables", and the log says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc". What's happening here?
[01:09] <asava> Boreeas: try either detatching screen 17350 or using -x to attach to it
[01:09] <phil_> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE HOW DO I RUN .RUN FILE UNBUNTU 11.10??
[01:10] <xangua> !caps | phil_
[01:10] <tensorpudding> phil_, it's probably a shell script
[01:10] <tensorpudding> just double-clock and run
[01:10] <tensorpudding> if it's not executable, set it executable first
[01:10] <phil_> tensor it dont work :(
[01:10] <vouth> phil_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[01:10] <e2b04836> phil_: chmod +x <file> and ./<file>
[01:11] <Boreeas> asava: Awesome, -x did it, thanks
[01:11] <Metroshica> I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on various VMs (both in VMWare and VirtualBox) and I always seem to come across this issue. When it loads the desktop, the top and bottom panels look alright for about 20 seconds, they are the normal black color of the standard Ubuntu theme. However, right after that, they turn grey, and look like taskbars out of an old Windows 98 machine. If I choose a different appearance, that affects windows fine, but it doesn't change the
[01:11] <Metroshica>  top and bottom panels. Anyone know how to fix this and/or why this happens?
[01:11] <d__> ...
[01:12] <d__> .....
[01:12] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: did you install the Virtualization support package from your respective hypervisor?
[01:12] <d__> 아아아
[01:12] <ant0neo> the camera works with youtube uploader though I have cheese wont record yet monitors, I am that much of a beginner that I don't know what vlc means, as said I have some documentation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams that might assist yet has no mention of 10.04 LTS only 10.10 and the link to older versions only covers up to 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) thanks for the other tip
[01:12] <phil_> tensor how do i set it executable??
[01:12] <d__> 잘된다
[01:12] <e2b04836> plhil_: chmod +x <file>
[01:12] <DrPenguin> phil_: chmod +x file
[01:12] <d__> 한국말로 합시다
[01:12] <Boreeas> d__: Yeah, white space is fun
[01:12] <tensorpudding> phil_, right click, check properties
[01:12] <DrPenguin> or a+x for all 3 groups
[01:12] <vouth> phil_, dude read the link I sent you
[01:12] <phil_> its a nvidia graphics driver by the way
[01:12] <d__> 영어방인가
[01:12] <tensorpudding> it'll be under permissions
[01:12] <tensorpudding> !ko | d__
[01:12] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I have, I've installed VMWare tools and Guest Additons for both VMWare and VirtualBox, still have the issue
[01:12] <DrPenguin> you can also just invoke sh script
[01:13] <d__> 이룬된장
[01:13] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: thats weird.. Are you using Unity? Not the Hypervisor unity but ubuntus unity
[01:13] <tensorpudding> phil_, running it as your regular user won't work then
[01:14] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I believe so, I login in with only Ubuntu selected as the desktop manager. I've selected Ubuntu Classic Theme and it does the same thing
[01:14] <phil_> tensor ok ran it in terminal tells me it has to be run as root??
[01:14] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: have you tried logging in using Ubuntu Classic as your session?
[01:15] <DrPenguin> phil_: sudo !!
[01:15] <e2b04836> phil_: use sudo
[01:15] <tensorpudding> phil_, yes, go and open the software center and install the nautilus-gksu package
[01:15] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, I have, and the same problem occurs
[01:15] <tensorpudding> i'm not sure why it's not default
[01:15] <vouth> phil_: sudo ./[filename].run
[01:15] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: that is just plain weird.. Im not sure tho Ive only ran 10.04 in a VM never 11.x
[01:16] <Metroshica> DrPenguin, Yea, I haven't had issues with 10.04. I hate Ubuntu 11, it just happens to be the only iso I have on this computer right now, I'm about to give up and just install 10.04, never had a single issue with that version
[01:17] <DrPenguin> Im not a fan of 11.x either
[01:17] <DrPenguin> 10.04 is so much more stable
[01:17] <vouth> Whenever I try to build something, I get: "error: C compiler cannot create executables", and the log says "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc". What's happening here?
[01:17] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone tried using GPG + S/MIME on oneiric? i'm trying to assist someone setting it up but importing the pkcs#12 (.p12) file doesn't cause the key to show up under gpgsm -K
[01:17] <DrPenguin> vouth: hmm.. the linker is missing something
[01:17] <itsnotabigtruck> i've tried all sorts of things and came across this http://www.thewildbeast.co.uk/claws-mail/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2511
[01:18] <itsnotabigtruck> that bug seeming to imply that it got b0rked in the gpg shipping with ubuntu 11.10
[01:18] <vouth> DrPenguin: I've installed all the common tools etc I thought I'd need. Is there an easy way to tell what's missing?
[01:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: a quick loko at the man page says you may be misisng /lib/crt0.o
[01:18] <vouth> DrPenguin (Sorry, I know next to nothing about development) Ok, I'll look and see if it's there…
[01:18] <phil_> tensor i did that and my graphics card keeps crashing hence i want to use the .run from geforce
[01:18] <DrPenguin> Oh wait I misread the man page
[01:19] <DrPenguin> vouth: so, lets back track, when you say build something, is this you compiling from source? or any c program
[01:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: Well I definitely don't have that file there.
[01:19] <itsnotabigtruck> phil_: you're really better off with the package, why was it you aren't using it?
[01:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: It's Mesa (the graphics library)
[01:19] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok I think your actually missing libc.a
[01:20] <phil_> its i am using it but it crashes my graphics card
[01:20] <vouth> DrPenguin: I'm hoping the newer version (that isn't in the 10.10 repos) will support the graphics chipset I have
[01:20] <DrPenguin> vouth: run this: sudo find / -name "libc.a"
[01:20] <tensorpudding> oh wait, darn
[01:20] <tensorpudding> nautilus-gksu was broken by gnome 3
[01:21] <jaybutts> hey I am trying to install windows 7 on my ubuntu computer, I have disk 0,0 160GB free IDE and then over 4TB in empty sata partitions and windows 7 setup says it can't find an appropriate system partition, sorry if its kind of offtopic but any idea?
[01:21] <phil_> vouth tells me command not found
[01:21] <phil_> man this is soooooooooooooooooooooooo frustrating
[01:21] <phil_> all i wanna do is play gta iv :(
[01:21] <vouth> phil_: in what directory is the .run file??
[01:21] <phil_> put it in home nvidia
[01:22] <phil_> but have tried thast to and no go
[01:22] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: Its always a pain in the  butt installing win  on an existing linux system as a dual boot
[01:22] <NeedHelp> Hello, I have a problem with Ubuntu that the numpad doesn't work. How do I fix it?
[01:22] <e2b04836> turn numlock on?
[01:22] <NeedHelp> e2b04836: doesnt help
[01:22] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: your gonna have a problem too that when you install windows, your gonna lose the ability to boot linux because Windows automagically overwrites mbr
[01:22] <xangua> NeedHelp: hit the function key to enable it
[01:22] <jaybutts> DrPenguin: Yes I know :( and I have done everything right I thought, I have 160GB brand new HDD on disk 0 ide
[01:23] <phil_> jay u must install windows first
[01:23] <DrPenguin> jaybutts: what I would do is just google the issue your having.. it doesnt sound like an ubuntu related issue, Windows  7 just cant parse the drive
[01:23] <phil_> to install unbuntu
[01:23] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, if you hold the 4 or 6, does your mouse move ?
[01:23] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone know about GPGSM
[01:23] <jaybutts> DrPenguin: yea but thats an easy grub fix, I just want to get it installed, this is so ridiculous, I have 5TB and not allowed to install windows
[01:23] <Nach0z> got a new question for yall. I just tried to boot from USB and the boot thing says "vesamenu.c32: not a COM32R image". any ide how to fix this?
[01:23] <vouth> phil_: ok so open a terminal and run: chmod +x ~/[filename].run && ~/[filename].run
[01:23] <roflcopter1> WOOW
[01:23] <NeedHelp> xangua: which button is that? I have a blue button called "F mode", but that doesnt affect it.
[01:24] <roflcopter1> 1461 nicks O.o
[01:24] <vouth> phil_: ok so open a terminal and run — or if you need sudo: chmod +x ~/[filename].run && sudo ~/[filename].run
[01:24] <NeedHelp> xangua: yes, it moves.
[01:24] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, then your numpad is selected as mouse
[01:24] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: ive seen that before at work.. all I know is is that the Os wont boot.. whats on your flash key?
[01:24] <vouth> DrPenguin: Not done searching yet but: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xen/libc.a, /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.a
[01:24] <NeedHelp> OerHeks: how do I select my numpad as a numpad ?
[01:24] <Metroshica> Would there be any reason why I should use a 32 bit version of Ubuntu instead of 64 bit for a VM? Memory usage isn't a problem as I'll be only allocating about a gig of memory, and it'll only have about 15 gbs of storage.
[01:25] <edbian> NeedHelp, numlock
[01:25] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok so you have the package, but it could be that libc.a is not in ld's search path
[01:25] <Nach0z> um. you want a list of the files there? it's got a syslinux/syslinux.cfg and txt.cfg, the linux file, and everything that I thought should e there
[01:25] <no-name-> when does support for 10.10 desktop end?
[01:25] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, it is an option in the keyboard menu
[01:25] <NeedHelp> edbian: pressing that button doesnt help
[01:25] <vouth> vouth: hmm, ok…
[01:25] <edbian> MetaBot, It will only get 1Gb of ram?  That 32 vs. 64 bit doesn't really make a difference
[01:25] <xangua> !maverick | no-name-
[01:25] <DrPenguin> Metroshica: Well, I cant imagine there being a processor issue with 64bit emulation.. but maybe its worth a shot
[01:25] <no-name-> ta
[01:25] <edbian> NeedHelp, then I'm not sure, do you have an fn key (on a laptop?)
[01:25] <xangua> no-name-: one year and a half since it was released, do the maths ;)
[01:26] <no-name-> ok
[01:26] <no-name-> :)
[01:26] <xangua> =18 months, for normal releases
[01:26] <OerHeks> NeedHelp, There is a shortcut key to toggle Mousekeys also. You can do this by pressing the SHIFT and Num Lock keys together.
[01:26] <vouth> DrPenguin: that last was to you. It turned out to be sort of… reflexive. D'oh! :-S
[01:26] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: so its some custom linux you whipped up?
[01:27] <Nach0z> No, it's the ubuntu mini.iso
[01:27] <DrPenguin> vouth: wha?
[01:27] <Nach0z> using the pendrivelinux installer
[01:27] <zorlac> ive installed apache2 how do i get it to show my webpage when i type localhost into the broswer.  at the moment when i type localhost it says It works!This is the default web page for this server.The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet
[01:27] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: Ah.. thats where I saw the problem
[01:27] <Kieraan> zorlac: You need to add your own files
[01:27] <e2b04836> remove the default index.html and replace it with whatever you want
[01:27] <Nach0z> oh I see o_0 so how do I slap it into working?
[01:27] <DrPenguin> I think the pendrive installer has an issue with linux os's it doesnt support
[01:27] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: BUT.. I *think* you can use dd to just dd the iso onto your flashkey and that would work
[01:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: lol, I accidentally addressed a message to myself :-P  It looks like I have to edit /etc/ld.so.conf then.
[01:27] <Nach0z> I'm on windows. aint got dd :/
[01:28] <NeedHelp> edbian: OerHeks: I got it. I simply unchecked "Preferences->Keyboard->Mouse Keys->Pointer can be controlled using the keypad". Thanks!
[01:28] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: cygwin!
[01:28] <zorlac> i cant past any documents into the folder with the default indext
[01:28] <Kieraan> zorlac: In /var/www/  there will be an index file, change that to your homepage and add all your other website files to that directory
[01:28] <vouth> DrPenguin: (I'm looking at http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/notes/rpath.html)
[01:28] <Nach0z> ah that's right, I DO have cygwin...
[01:28] <edbian> NeedHelp, sure
[01:28] <DrPenguin> vouth: you can probably pass the extra variable you need to the make process
[01:31] <zorlac> i cant delet or past any fiels into /var/www
[01:31] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone used GPGSM before (GnuPG S/MIME)
[01:31] <Kieraan> zorlac: How are you trying to to do that?
[01:31] <Kieraan> And what distro/version are you running?
[01:32] <e2b04836> zorlac: are you the owner of /var/www?
[01:32] <Metroshica> zorlac, have you checked permissions? by default the owner off /var/www is root
[01:32] <zorlac> im the owner of the computer
[01:32] <DrPenguin> zorlac: lol, not the computer, the directory
[01:32] <Kieraan> Are you using the desktop version with a GUI?
[01:32] <zorlac> how do i change it so my zorlac account can paste files into that folder\
[01:33] <Nach0z> wow. um. DrPenguin, the pendrive installer is just showing a gray screen with rings, and if I hit anything it says "password required" o_0
[01:33] <zorlac> using ubuntu 10.04
[01:33] <Kieraan> zorlac: Open the terminal
[01:33] <Metroshica> zorlac, go into /var/www and do a ls -l, check to see who the owner of index.html is. If it's root, then you either need to change permissions or you need to do it as root
[01:33] <Nach0z> like, the pendrive installed ubuntu 10.04
[01:33] <allquixotic> [PPA Build Question] Is there some way to take my source package and have it build *on my system* exactly the way that it'd get built on the PPA server? I'm basically hunting down dependencies and I'd rather not wait 3 hours for a build if I can run a command to set up a clean chroot jail, fetch the build-depends and build the source package. My build on the PPA keeps failing because I forgot to include build-dependencies that are
[01:33] <allquixotic> already installed on my devel box. I feel so bad wasting PPA cluster build time on issues I could fix locally :/
[01:33] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: the default should be ubuntu, no password
[01:33] <Metroshica> zorlac, go to /var, type in sudo chmod -r zorlac:www-data
[01:34] <Metroshica> zorlac, er, sudo chmod -r zorlac:www-data www
[01:34] <Kieraan> zorlac: open terminal and run that command Metroshica said ^
[01:34] <Clayman1000x> I enter the command "lsusb" and my Netgear WNA3100 wireless usb adapter is listed, I enter the command "iwconfig" and it sys no wireless connection, how do I install ndiswrapper?
[01:34] <Metroshica> zorlac, that will make it so you are the owner, but the group is www-data, so apache can still make edits, after you do the chmod, still in /var, type in sudo chmod -r 775 www, that will give apache permission as well
[01:35] <DrPenguin> Clayman1000x: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper? you still ned the inf from the driver though
[01:35] <Nach0z> DrPenguin, there's no default anything. nothing's listed in the thing, it just says "hit tab to edit options" or something
[01:35] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: hmm.. thats… weird
[01:36] <Nach0z> it's really weird. I can't figure out what's goin on
[01:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: Oh, hmm.
[01:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: I have no idea how to do that. :-P All I'm doing is running ./configure :-D
[01:37] <DrPenguin> vouth: OHHH so your not even making the driver yet
[01:37] <vouth> DrPenguin: Nope, didn't even get that far! :-P
[01:38] <DrPenguin> vouth: do you have libc6-dev installed?
[01:38] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:39] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: you were saying I could just dd the iso onto the pendrive, do you know how to reference a USB drive in cygwin for the of field?
[01:39] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: /cygdrive/WINDOWSDRIVELETTER
[01:39] <Clayman1000x> I have Ubuntu 11.10, I need ndiwrapper install, the tarball is on my desktop and it is aslo extracted to a file in my home folder, this file also contains broadcom drivers .inf and .sys.
[01:39] <DrPenguin> so, under the /cygdrive directory, you will see all the drive letters of your win drives, so juse the appropriate one from there
[01:39] <K1rk> Anyone have a 560 Fermi nvidia card running more than 2 monitors?
[01:39] <AzoteLogiko> s
[01:40] <DrPenguin> K1rk: I dont, but I know X server, what happens when you try to do dual? and xrandr or xinerama?
[01:40] <K1rk> I have this weird issue with mine.  When I add monitors to DVI ports other than the top left, they all appear in Linux, but it's merging them all into one device it's calling "GML GM-QUADRANT".
[01:40] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: says it's a directory. no can do.
[01:40] <edbian> Clayman1000x, that is not a question, ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper-gtk are in the repos, are you sure you need ndiswrapper at all?
[01:40] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: OH! you cant do it like that.. you would need to do it to the raw drive
[01:40] <thornhill> how do I remove windows from the bootloader options?
[01:40] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I can use the two+ monitors as one monitor, but I have monitors of different resolutions so I want my nVidia driver to treat them as separate displays.
[01:40] <DrPenguin> thornhill: you need to edit grub
[01:40] <edbian> thornhill, Is windows still installed?
[01:40] <DrPenguin> K1rk: But what Extension, xrandr or xinerama?
[01:41] <thornhill> How do I edit grub? Yes Windows is still installed
[01:41] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Xrandr, but using the nVidia driver, so I can't open the Ubuntu Monitors tool.
[01:41] <DrPenguin> K1rk: For eparate displays.. you can use Xinerama
[01:41] <DrPenguin> theres also Nvidia twinview, but im not familiar with that
[01:41] <edbian> thornhill, you edit /etc/default/grub   but if you take it off the menu you won't be able to boot windows anymore.  Is this what you want?
[01:42] <tomodachi> K1rk: are you using ubunut?
[01:42] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I don't think I have explained myself well enough.  I have 3 monitors. But 2 of the monitors are showing up as 1 monitor with a resolution of 3840x1080, so even with using Xinerama etc, it's treating those 2 as 1 monitor... and it's WEIRD.
[01:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: Yes, I do have libc6-dev installed.
[01:42] <DrPenguin> K1rk: that doesnt make sense.. show me your Xorg.conf
[01:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: look at the configure file, see where or how its looking for libc.a
[01:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: I tried adding a line /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xen/ to /etc/ld.so.conf and then running ldconfig but I got the same error.
[01:43] <thornhill> edbian: yes, that's what I want, but can't I just comment out the line and add it back in if I so desire at a later date?
[01:43] <DrPenguin> vouth: just to make sure.. are you a 64 or 32bit OS?
[01:43] <Clayman1000x> no staff?
[01:43] <K1rk> DrPenguin: https://goput.it/z4u.txt is my xorg.conf
[01:43] <edbian> thornhill, yes, comment out the line and run sudo update-grub
[01:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: 32bit
[01:43] <OerHeks> Clayman1000x, askubuntu has the answer > http://askubuntu.com/questions/48563/could-anyone-help-me-get-my-netgear-wna3100-broadcom-bcm43231-wireless-adapter
[01:44] <DrPenguin> K1rk: X is probably just barfing when it tries to autoconfigure.. X isnt good at autoprobing / configuring for proprietary drivers
[01:44] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Also take a look at this.  https://goput.it/m98.png
[01:44] <DrPenguin> K1rk: you should manually set it up in your X Server how you want it to be
[01:44] <thornhill> edbian: thanks!
[01:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: the other line in /etc/ld.so.conf is include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf.
[01:44] <edbian> thornhill, sure, try it and make sure it works
[01:44] <werty9d> google asks for password from me for using image editor on android . what the heck? :)
[01:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: IN that folder are GL.conf@  i686-linux-gnu.conf  libasound2.conf  libc.conf
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, My instructions are from memory
[01:45] <thornhill> I don't see windows in the file
[01:45] <DrPenguin> werty9d: this isnt the android irc
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, mmmm, yeah I think it's more complicated than that
[01:45] <edbian> thornhill, what do you have in /etc/grub/ ?
[01:45] <pnorman> I'm getting errors when I try to use a drive connected to my SAS/SATA card. The errors are unhandled error code, hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/778157/ for more). The card is a supermicro AOC-SAS2LP-MV8 using a Marvell 88SE9480. Any suggestions for what to do? I have not yet installed drivers. The Supermicro FTP site has drivers for Redhat, Fedora, SUSE and CentOS.
[01:46] <DrPenguin> pnorman: if there isnt a driver pkg available for ubuntu.. you can probably use alien to convert the rpm into a deb
[01:46] <Muggotronica> Hello, I am trying to configure a computer to  have multiple monitors, it is working, but there are a few things I want to change.  First off, on one screen when windows are maximized they go off the screen, and second I want to set each monitor as a seperate desktop.  How can I establish this configuration?
[01:46] <thornhill> edbian: I'm not sure, what are we looking for? I have /etc/grub.d folder...
[01:46] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: you need Xinerama for that
[01:46] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED.
[01:46] <pnorman> DrPenguin: Would the lack of the driver package potentially cause these errors?
[01:46] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED.
[01:46] <K1rk> Muggotronica: If you have nVidia graphics the proprietary nVidia drivers have tools which (in my experience) will make configuration work great and easy. However I am here because I'm having trouble with the drivers & my new Fermi 560. lol
[01:46] <edbian> thornhill, sorry typo, /etc/grub.d/ contains files.  Each file is a thing in the grub menu that can be booted
[01:46] <DrPenguin> pnorman: 	 well if you dont have the driver.. you cant expect it to work
[01:46] <edbian> wow
[01:47] <pnorman> DrPenguin: Some cards have support built into the kernel
[01:47] <DrPenguin> pnorman: this one obviously doesnt?
[01:47] <Muggotronica> DrPenguin: K1rk: How do I find out what video hardware I have and please direct me to some specific information about Xinerama.
[01:47] <edbian> thornhill, I'm researching
[01:47] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: lspci | grep VGA will tell us the card
[01:47] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I disagree that Xinerama is needed. on nVidia cards, there's nVidia TwinView which will do the same thing without the need to disable Compiz effects.
[01:48] <K1rk> Xinerama may be needed on ATI cards
[01:48] <werty9d> hehe check the tickets on card :)
[01:48] <K1rk> I'm less familiar with ATI
[01:48] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Well, as I said earlier, I do not know about Twinview, Ive only used Xinerama and Xrandr
[01:48] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED AND ANNIHILATED/
[01:48] <DrPenguin> werty9d: stop spamming the channel with random mesages
[01:48] <DrPenguin> troll_: SHUT UP
[01:48] <DrPenguin> God what is with the random people here
[01:48] <xangua> DrPenguin: don't feed
[01:48] <pnorman> DrPenguin: It has some support, but may not be complete
[01:49] <e2b04836> dont feed the troll dude
[01:49] <K1rk> pnorman: Can you describe your configuration to me?  You have a single GPU with two DVI ports and two monitors hooked up yes?
[01:49] <Muggotronica> DrPenguin: It is an Intel graphics card.
[01:49] <Nach0z> hey DrPenguin, gotta bug you one more time. How do I refresh the list of hard drives in fdisk?
[01:49] <troll_> UBUNTU, HAS GOT GRAPHICS PROBLEMS. IT IS  DEPRICATED.
[01:49] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: refresh the list? fdisk should just show you what the kernel sees
[01:49] <vouth> DrPenguin: In GL.conf is /usr/lib/fglrx. In i686-linux-gnu.conf http://wklej.se/5640 In libasound2.conf is /usr/lib/alsa-lib. In libc.conf are 2 lines: "# libc default configuration" and "/usr/local/lib"
[01:49] <DrPenguin> Muggotronica: ok.. so I think Xinerama is the way there..
[01:49] <Nach0z> hrm. so if I had my sata drive unplugged...
[01:49] <werty9d> yeh ubuntu is alot depricated troll but what isnt :)
[01:49] <pnorman> K1rk: Were you intending to ask me that?
[01:50] <K1rk> Oh sorry Muggotronica I think I nick called someone else instead of you.
[01:50] <pksadiq> troll_: just say whats the problem, my be someone here can help
[01:50] <K1rk> pnorman: No I think I meant Muggotronica. been long day.
[01:50] <edbian> thornhill, Read number 7 here
[01:50] <troll_> UBUNTU IS PRETTY MUCH DEPRICATED.
[01:50] <vouth> troll_: we're obviously Ubuntu users here, if you're just going to insult it you probably won't get any help fixing whatever complaints you have about it.
[01:50] <hanasaki> the most current clamav is not detecting this virus:  is there an update that will? TR/Spy.ZBot.JD
[01:51] <edbian> thornhill, removing one thing from grub 2 is a pain in the butt now!
[01:51] <Nach0z> troll_: it's spelled "deprecated"
[01:51] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I believe, in my research while working on my monitors project recently, that Xinerama will have to be fixed or depriciated in future releases, as it is not compatible with Compiz, and I believe Unity is a compiz based desktop. lol
[01:51] <e2b04836> l0l
[01:51] <Nach0z> :P
[01:51] <troll_> UBUNTU IS DEPRICATED, ...
[01:52] <musl> heh, correcting a troll's spelling is like pissing in te wind.
[01:52] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Well, X is being deprecated, Wayland may be able to do all this cute stuff
[01:52] <Muggotronica> K1rk: DrPenguin: I think I have missed a post or something, I have no experience with Ximerama.
[01:52] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Wayland?  I haven't heard of that.
[01:52] <tonsofpcs> how do I install l2tp for network manager?
[01:52] <DrPenguin> K1rk: Its supposed to be a new Protocol that replaces X
[01:52] <edbian> Wayland is vaporware
[01:52] <Muggotronica> K1rk: #wayland
[01:52] <tonsofpcs> I triedd xl2tpn and that's apparently not the right package
[01:52] <intok> How can I force what GPU is the default? I've got a craptacular Dell that doesn't have a BIOS option to disable the IGP, I've got a PCI GPU(Geforce 6200/NV44a) but some full screen games like Braid and the terminal shells accessed by ctrl+alt+F* combos give just a blank screen.
[01:53] <pksadiq> can I enlarge the filesystem created by ubuntu Wubi installer ?
[01:53] <xangua> pksadiq: no
[01:53] <DrPenguin> Internet13: force what GPU is the default? your dell has dual GPUs?
[01:53] <tonsofpcs> intok: sounds like a framebuffer/no-framebuffer issue
[01:53] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: got another issue now. The ubuntu is hanging on the purple screen with the dots... hitting alt-tab is telling me "unable to open /dev/sda" and glib-warning getpwuid_r() failed due to unknown user id 0
[01:54] <werty9d> pks.. there is partition editors that can do it
[01:54] <DrPenguin> crap not Internet13, intok, your dell has dual gpus?
[01:54] <thornhill> edbian: read number 7?
[01:54] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: press the 's' keyto skip mounting.
[01:55] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I have never written an xorg.conf before from scratch but I am willing to try. Is there a command I can run to ask my video card what its monitors are?
[01:55] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: nothing's happening. :s
[01:55] <edbian> thornhill, ah, sorry didn't paste the link.  Here it is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[01:55] <edbian> thornhill, read number 7 there on how to remove something from the boot menu
[01:55] <bile_mchn> :/
[01:56] <Billit> I have a strange process eating my memory
[01:56] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: spam it?
[01:56] <DrPenguin> K1rk: your gonna have to rely on either your xorg.0.log or your nvidia-settings manager
[01:56] <Billit> .ruby.bin
[01:56] <Billit> How do I find out what it is?
[01:56] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: killing my keyboard. nothing.
[01:56] <edbian> Billit, that's the ruby programming language.  It's some program that is written in ruby that is running right now
[01:56] <bile_mchn> :/
[01:56] <DrPenguin> Billit: google?
[01:56] <Billit> Ya did it
[01:56] <Billit> I uninstall ruby
[01:56] <Billit> Still it runs
[01:56] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I can't trust my Nvidia Settings manager... it's the one making up lies about my monitors.
[01:57] <Nach0z> Billit: kill -9 $(pidof .ruby.bin) ?
[01:57] <Billit> At least I think I did (apt-get remove ruby)
[01:57] <Nach0z> :s
[01:57] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I will take a look at the xorg logs, that may actually be useful.
[01:57] <Billit> It starts every boot
[01:57] <DrPenguin> K1rk: its not making up lies, its just looking at how X is currently configured
[01:57] <Billit> kill -9 is temporary
[01:57] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: your ubuntu  is on that partition then?
[01:57] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: nope. it's on a usb.
[01:57] <Billit> its a daemon of somekind
[01:57] <bile_mchn> k
[01:57] <K1rk> DrPenguin: As far as I know, X can't make 2 monitors turn into 1. I have a feeling that's something my chipset manufacturer is doing...
[01:58] <DrPenguin> K1rk: X can do that if its using Xrandr
[01:58] <K1rk> I'm tempted to put my Windows 7 drive in this machine and see what it has to say about this card.
[01:58] <K1rk> This is a brand new card, just got it today.
[01:58] <Billit> Is there a way I can find more about a process in Ubuntu
[01:58] <Billit> given the pid/name
[01:58] <DrPenguin> Billit: pid doesnt tell you anything. The only pid your guaraanteed on is init being 1
[01:58] <Billit> its running as root and as a daemon
[01:58] <edbian> Billit, PID is meaning less  .  I'm googling the name
[01:59] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: reinstall.
[02:00] <edbian> Billit, the name ruby.bin is not bringing up anything on google
[02:00] <DrPenguin> K1rk: you need to understand here, its not the "monitors" so much being combined, but its the Screens, as in X Screens
[02:00] <pksadiq> !find ruby.bin | Billit
[02:00] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: just tried with my harddrive unplugged and the issue doesn't happen... but now when I plug the hard drive back in, the USB-installd Ubuntu doesn't see the hard drive. ideas?
[02:00] <K1rk> DrPenguin: Just for kicks I'm gonna try this with an older Live CD I had laying around.
[02:01] <intok> DrPenguin it has an IGP, an i810 based GPU that has no working driver aside from Vesa, I added an old PCI Geforce 6200 I had collecting dust, as before the BIOS doesn't have an option to disable the IGP, is there a way to make it be completely ignored in linux?
[02:01] <Billit> f*ck it, I'm gonna do a grep "/usr/bin/ruby" and find every damn script that uses ruby
[02:01] <K1rk> DrPenguin: I'm wondering if the nouveau driver might be better suited but I don't want to uninstall my nvidia to find out. lol
[02:01] <Billit> thanks anyways
[02:01] <edbian> Billit, haha :)
[02:01] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: is it listed in /dev?
[02:01] <DrPenguin> intok: Ah got it,, you cant disable the interrupts
[02:01] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: only thing in /dev is sda and sda1
[02:02] <DrPenguin> intok: what you might be able to do is, you will still need to rely on the internal when your booting, but if you configure X to use your other video card (by configuring the device section), you should be able to use the other gfx card once your booted into the OS
[02:02] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: then kernel can't detect your drive.  Swithc your machine off and check all the HW is connected.
[02:02] <Nach0z> dadgummit. that's not good then. 'cuz the hardware being unplugged is the only thing that lets the usb-ubuntu boot past the mounting thing.
[02:04] <intok> DrPenguin ok, so how do I do that?
[02:04] <thornhill> edbian: my motivation is to simply remove it as an option for the staff at this nonprofit, while leaving the Windows partition intact, since they don't have Windows recovery CDs. Any suggestions to make booting Windows impossible?
[02:05] <DrPenguin> intok: you need to reconfigure the device section. basically its a matter of putting the PCI id of the better video card in the Device section and specifying the driver module to load
[02:06] <Nach0z> running a diskcheck. this is ridiculous.
[02:06] <edbian> thornhill, what you're talking about is possible.  I suggesting installing the gui tool that number 7 suggests
[02:06] <Jordan_U> edbian: thornhill: You should try to avoid editing anything in /etc/grub.d/ if at all possible. And it's not needed here.
[02:06] <vouth> DrPenguin: I tried adding the path to the folder containing one of those libc.a files to libc.conf and then running sudo ldconfig, but it still didn't work. Here's my complete config.log: http://wklej.se/af18
[02:07] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: you could try investing in a hotswappable sata hub or USB caddy and try mounting your hdd that way.
[02:07] <edbian> Jordan_U, what do you suggest doing?  Did you see the link I posted?  It does not recommend editing /etc/grub.d/ files directly
[02:07] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: that's a long-term fix but I need to get this system back online today. like in the next two hours kinda today.
[02:08] <DrPenguin> vouth: hmm.. can you check gcc's search path? maybe thats the issue
[02:08] <Jordan_U> thornhill: Add GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true to /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub".
[02:08] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: if kernel can't add your device in /dev, you may be in big trouble.
[02:09] <Nach0z> I'm trying to get an alternate ubuntu install running so I can just copy over the sudoers file
[02:09] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: have you checked the jumper is correctly set on the back of the drive and that it spins up?
[02:09] <Nach0z> yes, it does. the hard drive boots fine on its own
[02:09] <Nach0z> it's just that nobody's in the sudoers file because I made a rookie mistake
[02:09] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: why dont you jsut manually rebuild your sudoers file?
[02:10] <Nach0z> got no idea how to do that. there's NOTHING in that file right now
[02:10] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: google?
[02:10] <Nach0z> I can't even boot into safemode and drop into netroot because it asks for a password
[02:10] <DrPenguin> theres definitely information out there on sudoers..
[02:10] <edbian> thornhill, Jordan_U :P
[02:10] <DrPenguin> I can probably get you a copy of the sudoers from my schools ubuntu server..
[02:11] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: Gettin the new sudoers file isn't an issue, it's getting the new file onto the dang filesystem.
[02:11] <Nach0z> I don't know how to overwrite it booting from the hard drive since nothing is in the sudoers file, that's why I've been working on getting the USB Ubuntu working so I can do it that way.
[02:11] <DrPenguin> Well, first off, why are you not just using a straight up supported ubuntu release?
[02:12] <DrPenguin> supported by the pendrive
[02:12] <troll_> .
[02:12] <Nach0z> .... I'm using 10.04 right now
[02:12] <Nach0z> not the mini.iso
[02:12] <DrPenguin> you dont have a cd?
[02:12] <Nach0z> nope :/
[02:12] <Nach0z> none that I can find. that was my first thought.
[02:12] <DrPenguin> wait
[02:12] <DrPenguin> what does sudoers have to do with determining what you boot from
[02:12] <DrPenguin> thats a firmware level thing
[02:13] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: well, how am I supposed to put myself back in the sudoers file if I can't sudo nano /etc/sudoers ?
[02:13] <Nach0z> or if I can't sudo mv newsudofile /etc/sudoers ?
[02:13] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: you cant boot 10.04 from the flash key, mount your ubu drive, and copy it over?
[02:14] <johnny_> hi,  trying to figure out why the unlock button is greyed out when adding a new user
[02:14] <johnny_> or trying to add a new user*
[02:14] <DrPenguin> johnny_: are you doing it from the current user? you probably dont have privilages
[02:14] <Nach0z> that's the issue, DrPenguin. lol. the USB key wont' boot with the hard drive plugged in, and if I boot without it plugged in and plug it in post-boot, it don't show.
[02:14] <Nach0z> So I ran a file system check to make sure that wasn't the reason it wasn't booting
[02:14] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: that doesnt make any sense
[02:14] <johnny_> it says "administrator" under the account i'm loggedi n as
[02:15] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: there was a file system error that was making the USB ubuntu hang when it tried to mount the hard drive.
[02:15] <DrPenguin> johnny_: have you tried doing it from root or from terminal?
[02:15] <johnny_> i do'nt know the command
[02:15] <Nach0z> this is a seven-year-old desktop computer that's never had maintenance. it does all sorts of weird crap. lol.
[02:15] <DrPenguin> johnny_: google?
[02:15] <johnny_> but i also assume it's related to why i can't toggle "enable wireless"
[02:15] <DrPenguin> Seriously, have people here NEVER heard of google? for real
[02:15] <johnny_> google for which ? i know about useradd.. but i want to bring up the google
[02:15] <johnny_> err up the gui
[02:15] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: the usb key shouldnt be tyring to mount it until you tell it to
[02:16] <bile_mchn> DrPenguin: some people do not like google.
[02:17] <johnny_> all i can see is about user-admin and i don't have that comand
[02:17] <DrPenguin> bile_mchn: then they can use bing or yahoo.. no excuse for being lazy
[02:17] <Nach0z> DrPenguin: dunno why it is then. but yeah, I just got it to boot successfully after doing the file system check, edited my sudoers file, gonna get myself back online now.
[02:17] <Nach0z> woot.
[02:17] <pksadiq> !google | DrPenguin
[02:17] <thornhill> Jordan_U: thanks
[02:17] <johnny_> i've already looked.. that's why i'm here
[02:17] <vouth> DrPenguin: How can I check that search path?
[02:17] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: oh dont give me that, theres no such thing as "google-fu" you have an issue, you google it. plain and simple
[02:17] <johnny_> DrPenguin: i already did
[02:18] <johnny_> and i only see crap about users-admin and i don't have such a commaind in 11.10
[02:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: theres some command in gcc.. I think its.. —print-search-directories? it should be in the -h output or in the man page
[02:18] <rypervenche> johnny_: Did you try "sudo user-admin" ?
[02:18] <pksadiq> DrPenguin: of course there are, like quoting, "[", etc :)
[02:18] <e2b04836> johnny_: do you have sudo access on the account?
[02:18] <intok> DrPenguin you mean my xorg.conf? Cause all I see is the 6200 http://pastebin.com/MW7EhuzL But in LSHW it's still listed as 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE http://pastebin.com/tyrx2N1T
[02:18] <johnny_> rypervenche: why should i? it has an unlock dialog
[02:18] <johnny_> that's the whole point of policykit
[02:18] <Nach0z> now I just gotta figure out why it's not booting headless >:F
[02:19] <rypervenche> johnny_: Maybe it's not in your PATH.
[02:19] <DrPenguin> intok: thats your intel card, not your nvidia card.. does the system not see it? try lspci | grep VGA, you should get 2 entries
[02:19] <johnny_> it should be if i am supposed to be able to unlock it once the dialog is open
[02:19] <johnny_> also.. it opens as me just fine.. i just can't change it
[02:19] <e2b04836> johnny_: because you need to be root to make changes thus you need sudo access
[02:20] <johnny_> no you don't
[02:20] <johnny_> that's the point of policytkit
[02:20] <rypervenche> johnny_: Have you tried doing it?
[02:20] <johnny_> if i wanted to run useradd then yes i'd have to use sudo
[02:20] <johnny_> i think policykit is busted
[02:20] <intok> DrPenguin all I got was:  01:06.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] (rev a1)
[02:21] <johnny_> i want it to work the way it should.. even if the sudo thing did work.. that's now it its supposed to
[02:21] <johnny_> not*
[02:21] <DrPenguin> intok: .. It doesnt even see your other car
[02:21] <DrPenguin> d
[02:21] <rypervenche> johnny_: I would try our suggestions instead of arguing, lest you wish people to stop helping you.
[02:21] <johnny_> rypervenche: i want to fix policykit
[02:21] <johnny_> i don't care about that particular dialog
[02:21] <DrPenguin> intok: some BIOS automatically redirect interrupts
[02:21] <johnny_> i just figured that'd be a good place to start, but let's just focus on policykit
[02:22] <johnny_> so.. the nm applet doesn't let me toggle "enable networking"
[02:22] <johnny_> and i know it used to work in previous versions of ubuntu
[02:22] <K1rk> johnny_: We have that issue at my work sometimes with student netbooks...
[02:23] <K1rk> johnny_: The solution is to rm -R /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state and then restart network-manager
[02:23] <johnny_> did that already
[02:23] <johnny_> i'll try again though
[02:23] <intok> DrPenguin yet if I hit ctrl+alt+f1 or run a game like Braid I get a black screen, at startup the bios posts to the 6200, but once Linux starts booting it goes blank till I hit the Nvidia driver splash pre login prompt
[02:23] <vouth> DrPenguin: It's --print-search-dirs. :-) No idea what to make of the output though!! http://wklej.se/ef63
[02:23] <Jon--_> synclient reports only one finger on my touchpad, even when I use two. Am I out of luck getting multi-touch scrolling to work? Ubuntu 11.04
[02:23] <Jon--_> I disconnected if anyone replied earlier ^
[02:23] <johnny_> same diff .. still greyed out
[02:23] <DrPenguin> intok: its only using the one nvidia card
[02:23] <johnny_> that's why i think that policykit is screwed up
[02:24] <intok> DrPenguin other full screen games like Osmos, NAEV or Aquaria all display on the 6200 though
[02:24] <DrPenguin> vouth: thats basically where all the components of the build process looks for things like libraries and stuff
[02:24] <Canadian1296> johnny_: there is a reason no one is replying to you...
[02:24] <johnny_> you guys obviously don't understand policykit
[02:24] <DrPenguin> intok: dude, ONLY your 6200 is working
[02:24] <DrPenguin> intok: your other card isnt getting an IRQ, it CANT run
[02:24] <blackshirt> is it normal for console-kit-daemon spawned 63 process ??
[02:24] <johnny_> oh.. how am i in ubuntu-unregged
[02:25] <johnny_> blackshirt: yes
[02:25] <johnny_> it looks odd, but that's how it works
[02:25] <DrPenguin> vouth: is libc.a in any of those i686 dirs?
[02:25] <bile_mchn> blackshirt: no, but it depends on what you fed it.
[02:25] <blackshirt> johnny_: why ? i think that was too much
[02:26] <intok> DrPenguin so any ideas on why I can't drop to the shell when crap hits the fan?
[02:26] <Nach0z> Alright. I got one last question for yall before I hit the road. I want my ubuntu 11.04 to boot headlessly, like terminal-only. I thought I had it configured to do that already but it's apparently not working because when I reboot, I get the graphic login screen
[02:26] <johnny_> one for every process that you see
[02:26] <Amd> Hi....What is Network Proxy ?
[02:26] <DrPenguin> intok: probably because something isnt configured right..
[02:26] <bile_mchn> Nach0z: use the server variant
[02:26] <johnny_> blackshirt: pgrep console-kit
[02:26] <Nach0z> bile_mchn: already got it installed and configured, it just started acting up today.
[02:27] <xangua> !nox | Nach0z
[02:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: Yup there's one in /usr/lib/i686-linux-gnu/
[02:27] <Billit> Hey you gourgeous bastards
[02:27] <Billit> I'm back
[02:27] <blackshirt> bile_mchn: if we knowjohnny_: look with pstree
[02:27] <Billit> with another question
[02:27] <justdave> ok, for anyone who saw my question earlier about getting users to not show up on the login screen (postfix in my case) I found it eventally via Google.  Answer is to list the user in the Exclude= line in the [greeter] section in /etc/gdm/custom.conf (which you may have to create)
[02:27] <Canadian1296> Nach0z: if you use the alternate install cd, you can press f4 and choose to install a command line system only
[02:27] <johnny_> ?
[02:27] <Nach0z> thanks xangua, lemme see if it works.
[02:27] <vouth> DrPenguin: Not right under but it's /usr/lib/i686-linux-gnu/xen/libc.a
[02:27] <Billit> How do I disable oneconf-service
[02:27] <johnny_> yes..  but pgrep should only show one
[02:27] <Nach0z> Canadian1296: it's been installed for more than a year. bit late for that part .lol.
[02:27] <blackshirt> johnny_: look with pstree
[02:27] <johnny_> and that's what matters
[02:27] <Billit> I've googled it and found sparse information
[02:27] <johnny_> i know..  that's just what it looks like
[02:27] <Canadian1296> Nach0z: lol i didnt realize :P
[02:27] <xangua> Billit: uninstall it¿
[02:27] <intok> DrPenguin well I've set nothing out of the ordinary, and let the Nvidia driver GUI set the xorg.conf
[02:28] <johnny_> blackshirt: it should grow as you open things
[02:28] <Jordan_U> thornhill: You're welcome.
[02:28] <johnny_> but the important thing is that pgrep or ps ax | grep console-kit show one
[02:28] <Billit> If i try to uninstall it, it automatically tries to uninstall Ubuntu Desktop and Software Center too!
[02:28] <blackshirt> johnny_: it was default, can we change this ?
[02:28] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok, I forget, is that 686 directory in gcc's search path?
[02:28] <johnny_> blackshirt: no
[02:29] <johnny_> ignore it it's working as expected
[02:29] <DrPenguin> intok: thats not enough.. you usally have to edit things both inside and outside the xorg.conf
[02:29] <Nach0z> this is even more unusual. I have ubuntu 11.04 but I'm booting from grub 1.99 rc1 o_0
[02:29] <blackshirt> johnny_: one process, with 63 threads i thinks
[02:29] <johnny_> yes..
[02:29] <johnny_> and it's fine
[02:29] <vouth> DrPenguin: yup
[02:29] <DrPenguin> vouth: that is weird.. lets try this… do you know how to write C programs?
[02:29] <Dexo> hey, anyone ever use Xara Xtreme for Linux?
[02:30] <ryoohki> is there an upgrsde channel?  i upgraded from natty to oneiric and X won't start now
[02:30] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:30] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: thanks!
[02:30] <multipass|2> h
[02:30] <vouth> DrPenguin: nope, no idea. Only PHP and VB.Net (sorry but it's true :-D)!
[02:30] <DrPenguin> vouth: im gonna write you a quick C program, I want you to test somethin for me
[02:31] <Billit> What is Ubuntu-desktop responsible for?
[02:31] <vouth> DrPenguin: And I wouldn't even trust myself with those languages :-P
[02:31] <johnny_> it's a meta-package that handles almost everything gnome
[02:31] <vouth> DrPenguin: Cool, thanks! Just as long as it doesn't format my hard disk or something :-D
[02:31] <DrPenguin> vouth: copy this into some file called whatever.c, http://pastebin.com/t650aVNy
[02:31] <Canadian1296> Billit: in other words the gui...
[02:31] <DrPenguin> vouth: oh ofcourse not
[02:31] <DrPenguin> all it does is print what is in printf to the terminal
[02:31] <blackshirt> console-kit-dae───63*[{console-kit-dae}]
[02:32] <Canadian1296> DrPenguin: XD
[02:32] <Billit> Damnit
[02:32] <Billit> How do I disable oneconf
[02:32] <johnny_> blackshirt: so?
[02:32] <Billit> it eats up all my memory
[02:32] <johnny_> i keep telling you that that is fine :)
[02:32] <merjun32> which is better, openoffice or libreoffice?
[02:32] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/778193/
[02:32] <blackshirt> johnny_: what reason for this ?
[02:32] <DrPenguin> vouth: do you have it copied?
[02:33] <johnny_> blackshirt: i don't know.. but this is how it's always worked
[02:33] <johnny_> since 5 years ago when it was first created
[02:33] <Amd> Hi...Is network proxy used to share an internet connection ?
[02:33] <johnny_> it's probably one process for each visual thing you see.. applet or open app
[02:33] <johnny_> err one thread*
[02:34] <blackshirt> johnny_ : yeah, this worked for me too
[02:34] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, I was just joking. Well no actually. I'm still waiting for a browser to open — Banshee's eating up all my cpu and ram with an import :-D
[02:34] <vouth> DrPenuin: Here it comes…
[02:34] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: .. the log looks ok.. can you do sudo service gdm start?
[02:34] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: restart actually
[02:35] <blackshirt> quote "It maybe the case that console-kit-daemon starts a thread for each console that can theoretically exist. On Linux (/usr/include/linux/vt.h) MAX_NR_CONSOLE is defined to be 63
[02:35] <blackshirt> johnny_: It maybe the case that console-kit-daemon starts a thread for each console that can theoretically exist. On Linux (/usr/include/linux/vt.h) MAX_NR_CONSOLE is defined to be 63
[02:36] <vouth> DrPenguin: Dam this is taking a long time!! Sorry! :-S
[02:37] <DrPenguin> vouth: its cool brah
[02:37] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: startx or gdm works perfectly
[02:38] <johnny_> mine ays 64
[02:38] <johnny_> threads*
[02:39] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: so.. you CAN init the X Server manually but not during boot??
[02:39] <DrPenguin> thats f'ing weid
[02:39] <DrPenguin> s/weid/weird/
[02:39] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: yup
[02:39] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: can you diff the Xorg.0.log with Xorg.0.log.old?
[02:40] <DrPenguin> or just pastebin the new log? either way dont matter
[02:40] <vouth> DrPenguin: done: ~/yougotthatrightyo.c
[02:40] <johnny_> ok.. tried it as a new user and no dice
[02:40] <johnny_> still "enable networking" is greyed out
[02:40] <DrPenguin> vouth: ok, now run gcc -o fubar yougotthatrightyo.c
[02:40] <johnny_> and "enable wireless"
[02:40] <Nach0z> wow. this is messed up. I've tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop  AND sudo init 3 and for some reason my ubuntu computer, which doesn't even have the ubuntu-desktop packages installed anymore, is still showing a background and a mouse pointer. any ideas?
[02:41] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: i used "service gdm start" and it worked perfectly
[02:41] <DrPenguin> Nach0z: run levels 2-6 will all have an X Server running
[02:41] <johnny_> oh.. cuz ifupdown managed=false
[02:41] <vouth> DrPenguin: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:41] <Nach0z_> DrPenguin: how do I disable the X server then? I just need some way to prevent it from even starting, and changing the /etc/default/grub to say "quiet splash text" hasn't worked for me.
[02:41] <DrPenguin> vouth: man.. there is something WEIRD with your system
[02:41] <vouth> DrPenguin: (that was on two lines, the second beginning at 'collect2')
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: I hate when that happens. It seems to happen a *lot*. :-(
[02:42] <pSy4130> anybody find a work around for GNOME3 hating onboard ATI cards?
[02:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: I have NEVER seen that happen before
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: just totally random weird sh!t.
[02:42] <DrPenguin> vouth: have you tried reinstalling gcc and build-essential?
[02:42] <vouth> DrPenguin: No idea why. Maybe I should uninstall and then reinstall gcc etc?
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, great minds think alike :-D
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: no I have not.
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: I guess that's next, so here goes!
[02:43] <DrPenguin> vouth: the next thing I would try would be to, instead of using gcc, to build that c file one at a time. Basically: preprocessor, compiler, assembler, linker
[02:43] <ghostnik11> is there way i can get another firefox instead of firefox 8 in ubuntu or is it safe to just stay with firefox 8
[02:43] <vouth> DrPenguin: before or after the reinstalls?
[02:44] <DrPenguin> vouth: after if you still cant compile my file
[02:44] <johnny_> ghostnik11: best to stick with what ubuntu provides
[02:44] <ryoohki> pSy4130: i too have an onboard ati card
[02:44] <ghostnik11> johnny_: cool thanks will stick with it
[02:44] <vouth> DrPenguin: ok
[02:44] <zorlac> hey im leaning how to write website,  iver installed lammp and apachie2.  i was wondering whree is a good place to store my pictures and other things i wish to use on my site
[02:45] <DrPenguin> vouth: my guess is that the pp, compiler, and assembler shouldnt fail.. but the linker will.. so we may not get anymore info
[02:45] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: is it possible it's the onboard ati card and gnome 3?
[02:45] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: Doesnt make sense, you siad you were able to get the X Server running
[02:46] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: true
[02:46] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: how to debug?
[02:46] <pSy4130> ryoohki: Is your working correctly after jockey installs the recomended driver?
[02:46] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: not much we can do.. the Xorg log was clean as a whistle.. did you do the diff like I asked?
[02:46] <vouth> DrPenguin: Ah. That makes sense. The reinstalls might take a while; removing gcc took VirtualBox along with it :-P
[02:46] <DrPenguin> vouth: oh noez
[02:47] <Jon--> synclient reports only one finger on my touchpad, even when I use two. Am I out of luck getting multi-touch scrolling to work? Ubuntu 11.04
[02:47] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: what does the last line mean "ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log"?
[02:47] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: what diif?  missed it
[02:47] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: diff Xorg.0.log with Xorg.0.log.old
[02:47] <SlayersZ> evening xD
[02:48] <SlayersZ> is  60 dollars too much for a game
[02:48] <multipass|2> would ubuntu server be a good distro to put on my EEE  netbook for a lampstack?
[02:48] <DrPenguin> SlayersZ: !ot
[02:48] <DrPenguin> ...
[02:48] <DrPenguin> !ot
[02:48] <vouth> DrPenguin: lol, howsabout I try to get audio working in the meantime???  If it's free, nothing could be enough.
[02:50] <vouth> eh, oh well. my profound sentiments were lost on him :-P
[02:50] <e2b04836> lol
[02:50] <vouth> DrPenguin: Hmm, well I think my problem is that I don't have a sound card. That might explain it…
[02:50] <DrPenguin> vouth: that wuld be a good freakin guess
[02:52] <cordor> why
[02:53] <cordor> why zeitgeist-daemon run cat
[02:57] <cordor> help, i can't type once in a while, the focus is still there, just not getting keystroke. i have to switch window back and fore.
[02:57] <johnny_> fixed it
[02:58] <johnny_> DrPenguin: wanna know what it was?
[02:58] <johnny_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/851055
[02:58] <pnorman> DrPenguin: The redhat drivers aren't a rpm
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: done.
[02:58] <johnny_> that's not the error i had, but it was related to that same issue
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: Trying again now…
[02:58] <johnny_> i fixed it by switching to gdm.. i'll update lightdm once they fix it
[02:58] <dot-slash> sorry if it's been asked before but anyone have a link to fix of Ubuntu 10.10 Grub breakage/Fix????
[02:58] <vouth> DrPenguin: Same error.
[02:58] <dot-slash> It's a known bug right?
[02:59] <johnny_> so if anybody wants to know why they can't unlock user admin or enable/disable networking.. that's why
[02:59] <dot-slash> timeout issue needs manual press of enter to boot correctly...
[02:59] <johnny_> DrPenguin: you should hve listened.. instead you thought you knew better..
[02:59] <johnny_> hah
[02:59] <johnny_> treating me like a n00b
[03:00] <johnny_> but really thanks blackshirt.. he put me on the right path with his error
[03:00] <savid> What's the file where you can put modules that you want to be unloaded during suspend?
[03:00] <savid> I remember editing it before and I need to add another module, but I can't remember for the life of me where it is
[03:01] <multipass|2> does ubuntu server come with desktop environment?
[03:01] <DrPenguin> … what the heck?
[03:01] <e2b04836> no, no it doesn't
[03:02] <DrPenguin> I hate idiots like johnny_...
[03:02] <Jon--> multipass|2, I believe you are looking for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server_2011
[03:02] <DrPenguin> vouth: crud man.. I really dont know whats wrong.. Id hate to tell you to reinstall your OS.. but..
[03:02] <e2b04836> lol
[03:02] <lotus-blade> ok I have a small video problem.  my monitor is saying out of range
[03:02] <LtHummus> does ntpdate keep a log anywhere?  i have it set to run every hour via cron (I think) but it doesn't appear to actually run
[03:03] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: is your X server specify a mode (resolution optionally with refresh rate) that your monitor doesnt support?
[03:03] <multipass|2> does ubuntu server have unity/gnome? or just command line
[03:03] <Canadian1296> Jon--: Im pretty sure that's NOT what he's looking for
[03:03] <Canadian1296> multipass|2: command line
[03:03] <e2b04836> multipass|2: it uses command line
[03:03] <multipass|2> ah ok thanks
[03:04] <Jon--> Canadian1296, Not very good with sarcasm, are ya?
[03:04] <Canadian1296> Jon--: Yes, I know it was sarcasm… :P
[03:04] <com641> lol
[03:05] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: there is no lines about resolution of frequancy
[03:05] <tenX> multipass|2: server 2011?
[03:05] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: can you look at the Xorg.0.log and see what X probes from the ddc?
[03:05] <e2b04836> LtHummus: check /var/log/cron to see if it is actually running ntpdate doesn't log
[03:05] <multipass|2> what tenX?
[03:06] <LtHummus> e2b04836: /var/log/cron doesn't seem to exist....
[03:07] <vouth> DrPenguin: wow, weird, I just got logged out totally randomly.
[03:08] <vouth> DrPenguin: that's the second time that's happened since yesterday
[03:08] <tenX> multipass|2: referring to you mentioning sbs 2011
[03:09] <vouth> DrPenguin: How would I go about building it one step at a time??  I think your gonna have to reinstall your system.. I have no clue what the issue is
[03:10] <multipass|2> tenX:  idk what ur talking about but ok =)
[03:10] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: i will pasebin it to you
[03:10] <_cb> Whenever I try to play games on Yahoo firefox errors out. Looks as if Yahoo thinks Firefox is Chrome
[03:11] <e2b04836> LtHummus: cat /var/log/syslog |grep cron
[03:12] <tenX> multipass|2: thats likely the best way to deal with it
[03:12] <vouth> DrPenguin: wow. crap. I've put so much work into getting this system just the way I like it, and now to just have to scrap it all :-S There is no way that's happening :-D
[03:12] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/qLwr42mx  I real can not make sence of it
[03:12] <multipass|2> tenX: are you on drugs?
[03:12] <e2b04836> *giggles*
[03:13] <tenX> multipass|2: hmm. never thought about that :)
[03:14] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: duuuuude, your X is freaking out
[03:14] <vouth> DrPenguin: what's the recommended procedure for a badly broken system?
[03:15] <e2b04836> rm -rf /
[03:15] <vouth> just give up and reinstall?
[03:15] <DrPenguin> vouth: reinstall? lol whenever my system gets f'ed up I usually switch distros
[03:15] <lotus-blade> that is what the default config did
[03:15] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: pastebin your xorg.conf
[03:15] <vouth> e2b04836: was that to me? :-D
[03:15] <e2b04836> vouth: yes
[03:15] <vouth> e2b04836: lol
[03:16] <pksadiq> e2b04836: please better not to say that, somebody might try
[03:16] <allquixotic> c_smith: FYI; https://launchpad.net/~smcnam/+archive/rbpitch-release
[03:16] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: no offense, but people shouldnt exec what they dont understand
[03:16] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: this isnt Windows.. this is Linux. You actually need to know what your doing to survive
[03:17] <e2b04836> it'll refuse to rm / anyway without an extra arg
[03:17] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: http://pastebin.com/nGYrLD2W
[03:17] <pksadiq> DrPenguin: well, people should try, a hacker is one who creates wood from axe, experimenting all the time ;)
[03:18] <DrPenguin> pksadiq: I agree people should try.. try to learn. Not just blindly exec code fragments like a script kiddie
[03:18] <vouth> DrPenguin: hehe, that seems a little extreme. What I'm trying (and failing) to do in the long term is start yet another ubuntu spinoff distro. Since I can't even get one install to work right — much less many — I don't think it's *quite* ready yet…
[03:18] <DrPenguin> vouth: i dont think it is as much.. why would anyone use a tool they dont understand? your just asking for trouble
[03:18] <tenX> DrPenguin: impossible
[03:19] <phillip_> anyone to help me install printer driver? I downloaded my driver from lexmark and when it goes through the setup process it asks for root admin password, I am set up as an administrator but wont accept my password
[03:19] <DrPenguin> tenX:  definitely not impossible
[03:19] <DrPenguin> phillip_: but your not root
[03:19] <tenX> DrPenguin: understanding about anything you execute?
[03:19] <phillip_> how do i get access to root?
[03:19] <vouth> DrPenguin: I was talking about switching distros.
[03:19] <vouth> phillip_: sudo
[03:20] <DrPenguin> tenX: dude, when I learned linux, I ran it in a VM for a month before I was comfortable enough to install it as a dual boot
[03:20] <DrPenguin> tenX: I, like many others who in my position would not have much linux knowledge, could EASILY kill their system if they just tried to install it willy nilly wihtout understanding it
[03:21] <vouth> when I learned Linux I didn't know what a VM was. I just installed it off a free CD of Fedora Core 1, right over Window$ ME — which I had just as little clue how to use.
[03:21] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: this is what I just found out about the monitor: fh:30~80kHz, fv:50~85Hz
[03:22] <tenX> DrPenguin: dude, when i started there were no vms, in my case not even a x driver for my video card forcing me to go plain black white from the beginning on
[03:22] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: looking at your Xorg log,  X is having a serious issue probing your EDID
[03:22] <DrPenguin> tenX: did you start in the 1900s? We have had virtualization and Hypervisors since the 1970s I believe
[03:23] <DrPenguin> But even if not, thats still no excuse to do something wihtout understanding what your doing
[03:23] <tenX> DrPenguin: think we at cross-purposes
[03:23] <tenX> DrPenguin: if thats the right way to express it
[03:23] <symptom> anyone know how to downgrade a package, and/or reset the dependencies
[03:23] <symptom> ?
[03:23] <DrPenguin> tenX: I think you might mean cross roads? Ive never heard of cross purposes
[03:23] <zacarias> how do you install Ubuntu on a tiny Acer Aspire One 533 or on an Asus eeepc 1015 px netbooks?
[03:24] <e2b04836> Flannel: sorry, i'll refrain from posting commands like that in future :3
[03:24] <zacarias> Actually, how do you install it on a netbook?
[03:24] <Flannel> e2b04836: Thanks.  Malicious commands aren't ever appreciated, even if they're 'non-functional'
[03:24] <Jon--> zacarias, usb boot
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: translator wars ;)
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: Basically think we're on the same track
[03:24] <DrPenguin> tenX: in this instance, I dont wanna correct you, just not sure whatcha mean :P
[03:24] <tenX> DrPenguin: same here
[03:24] <zacarias> Jon--: is there a link with installation instructions?
[03:25] <oplacker> How fast does a meteor or lauched rocket or satellite have to go to disintegrate completely in the Earth's upper atmosphere?
[03:25] <DrPenguin> !ot
[03:25] <Jon--> zacarias, http://bit.ly/swPzgm
[03:26] <Jon--> zacarias, sarcasm aside, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[03:27] <zacarias> Jon--: Thanks, no problem with sarcasm
[03:28] <Bublik2002> how do i know when a bug is resolved? like this one for example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/882160
[03:29] <Bublik2002> is there a way to fix it?
[03:29] <oplacker> what's a good way to brute force into an ubuntu server
[03:29] <troll_> hahahah
[03:29] <troll_> are you being serious?
[03:30] <oplacker> yes
[03:30] <oplacker> There are several ports, including SSH, VNC, and Apache
[03:30] <troll_> well.. bruteforce it..
[03:30] <oplacker> the problem with ssh brute forcing is that the passwords are very dumb
[03:30] <oplacker> and complex
[03:30] <troll_> google is your friend.. theres tools..
[03:31] <Bublik2002> how do you know if theres a fix for a bug in launchpad?
[03:31] <oplacker> How do I run brutus
[03:31] <troll_> google it
[03:31] <OerHeks> Bublik2002, you would notice the update
[03:31] <troll_> this is ubuntu help chan not hacking chan :D
[03:32] <Bublik2002> Oerheks: i dont have it currently installed because of this bug i switched to fedora but would like to switch back when its resolved
[03:32] <lotus-blade> DrPenguin: after adjusting xorg.conf do I need to reboot or is there a quick way?  I know in debian all I did was invoke-rc.d gdm3 restart from root shell
[03:32] <bonhoffer> is there a way to type: open foo.pdf in the console and open a pdf viewer
[03:32] <DrPenguin> lotus-blade: you can just do pkill X
[03:33] <werty9d> bomhoff yes its possible
[03:33] <OerHeks> Bublik2002, status says not fixed
[03:33] <pksadiq> bonhoffer: I think no, but you can open xinit and open any gui app
[03:33] <bonhoffer> pksadiq, thanks
[03:33] <e2b04836> bublik2002: when its fixed the status will show "Fix Commited"
[03:34] <bonhoffer> what is the pdf viewer default in ubuntu?
[03:34] <vouth> Every track I've checked in my Banshee library has a file size of "-1 bytes". Does anyone know what's happened here?
[03:34] <qin_> bonhoffer: there is fbi
[03:34] <DrPenguin> evince?
[03:34] <Bublik2002> OerHeks: whats crazy is that the dell e6410 is a certified ubuntu 11.10 laptop... how could that be?
[03:34] <e2b04836> committed*
[03:34] <pksadiq> bonhoffer: evince
[03:35] <bonhoffer> thanks
[03:36] <werty9d> vouth -1 is not size there is no -1
[03:36] <werty9d> its error report of the app imao
[03:36] <vouth> werty9d: True. I'm just quoting the Banshee interface. That's not the real filesize, obviously
[03:36] <pksadiq> werty9d: I think -1 is used to indicate infinity
[03:37] <iToast> Query
[03:37] <iToast> Question:*
[03:37] <vouth> werty9d: There is this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/769006
[03:37] <iToast> Can i setup ubuntu to automaticly download youtube videos that I give it?
[03:37] <DrPenguin> iToast: you can write a script to do that
[03:37] <vouth> werty9d: but as far as I can tell nothing will play at all.
[03:37] <iToast> DrPenguin: Crap.
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: what? shell scripts are easy to write
[03:38] <vouth> werty9d: Just earlier this evening it worked fine. :-(
[03:38] <iToast> DrPenguin: I've never made one
[03:38] <iToast> Any tutorials?
[03:38] <werty9d> it looks like a fs error
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: google like.. bash scripting
[03:38] <iToast> ok
[03:38] <pangolin> iToast: check out youtube-dl
[03:38] <DrPenguin> iToast: hell I could probably write one for you.. what are you using to dl the videos?
[03:39] <werty9d> maybe you removed the usb stick that contains the files :)
[03:39] <iToast> DrPenguin: This is all happening on a Ubuntu server
[03:39] <iToast> 10.4
[03:39] <pksadiq> vouth: have you mounted the drives you are trying to access the files?
[03:39] <vouth> werty9d: Well, they play fine in Totem.
[03:39] <DrPenguin> iToast: not OS :P what tool
[03:39] <vouth> pksadiq: yes.
[03:39] <iToast> I just need a script i can pass  something like this to "watch?v=A4EgfLlvlDg&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2600677FAAAAAAAAMAA"
[03:40] <e2b04836> iToast: best option is probably a php script and php-cli theres numerous examples online
[03:40] <DrPenguin> iToast: the item pangolin recommended, youtube-dl, can do the thing, you give it an HTML link to youtube and itl download the video
[03:40] <iToast> DrPenguin: Can we automate it?
[03:40] <pksadiq> iToast: you may ask in bash, you may create a script using wget, and changing youtube.com to get2pc.com etc
[03:40] <DrPenguin> iToast: auotmate it in what way?
[03:41] <iToast> DrPenguin: Give it a link, it starts downloading.
[03:41] <iToast> Nothing involvng bash
[03:41] <iToast> Or console.
[03:41] <DrPenguin> iToast: … thats how youtube-dl works
[03:41] <mhiku> how to use ubuntu as a dchp pxe boot server for diskless clients to connect to it and boot windows 7
[03:41] <iToast> DrPenguin: can we take this to a PM?
[03:41] <DrPenguin> iToast: ok.. how do you plan to give "it" the link?
[03:41] <DrPenguin> uh ok
[03:41] <vouth> pksadiq, werty9d: Files in my home directory seem unaffected.
[03:42] <optimusM> how do i install utorrent on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:42] <szal> iToast: sounds like a case for JDownloader; iirc you can configure it to auto-download everything you throw at it (reads the clipboard, so copying the address would do)
[03:42] <szal> optimusM: ideally you don't & use a Linux-native torrent app
[03:43] <iToast> szal: it all hapens on a remote machine.
[03:43] <pksadiq> mhiku: you may use pxeboot to load some bootloader like plpbt and from that you may boot usb, cd or what ever
[03:43] <optimusM> you have any suggestions?
[03:43] <DrPenguin> optimusM: deluge or transmission would work
[03:43] <optimusM> thank you
[03:43] <almoxarife> optimusM: transmission, you get to tap into the utorrent swarm
[03:44] <optimusM> i have tranmission
[03:44] <optimusM> transmission
[03:44] <optimusM> its the default that came with ubuntu 10.04
[03:44] <allquixotic> Random advertisement from the author of a free software Rhythmbox plugin that currently lives outside of Ubuntu but is developed on Launchpad: I recently updated the plugin I've been developing/maintaining since 2009, to work with the gnome 3.x platform that recent Rhythmbox (Ubuntu 11.10 and later) now depends on. I built some binaries and put it in a PPA on Launchpad. Feel free to check it out, comment, etc. Both user and
[03:44] <allquixotic> developer feedback welcome! Homepage: http://launchpad.net/rbpitch  Code: https://code.launchpad.net/~smcnam/rbpitch/gnome3    Ubuntu 11.10 binaries: https://launchpad.net/~smcnam/+archive/rbpitch-release   Feedback thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1303297 . I will NOT advertise again in this channel, so I apologize in advance if you're annoyed by this.
[03:44] <FloodBot1> allquixotic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <optimusM> but it seems to be going very slow at getting stuff
[03:45] <DrPenguin> optimusM: how many seeds are on the torrent?
[03:45] <optimusM> 1,400
[03:45] <optimusM> oops wait
[03:46] <optimusM> yea 1,400
[03:46] <DrPenguin> and whats the down bandwidth?
[03:46] <optimusM> 50 kbs
[03:46] <DrPenguin> that is cruddy
[03:47] <DrPenguin> have you tried dling a file outside of transmissiont o ensure its just not your connection>?
[03:47] <optimusM> it might also be because im doing something taking all the cpu speed
[03:47] <DrPenguin> optimusM: not likely
[03:47] <pangolin> allquixotic: please don't advertise in here.
[03:47] <optimusM> never heard of dling
[03:47] <DrPenguin> optimusM: downloading..
[03:47] <CarlFK> are there any barcode fonts 'built in' (either defult, or an apt-get away
[03:47] <optimusM> oh haha
[03:48] <CarlFK> and what apps will decode an image of a barcode?  pretty sure gocr will, can't find support for this idea though
[03:48] <allquixotic> pangolin: As said, I won't. :) Once and never again. Those who are interested will check it out. Those who aren't, won't hear it again.
[03:48] <almoxarife> optimusM: set the upload speed at 80% of avail, the rest is just a matter of swarm voodoo
[03:48] <ycy212> 김건태
[03:49] <ycy212> heigt
[03:49] <ycy212> wihth
[03:49] <CarlFK> ycy212: what are you doing?
[03:49] <optimusM> lmao
[03:49] <optimusM> i know why is was going so slow lol
[03:49] <ycy212> 몰라
[03:50] <ycy212> i dont know
[03:50] <ycy212> w
[03:50] <CarlFK> ycy212: what ever you are doing, please stop :)
[03:50] <optimusM> i had to set perefernces it was set to 50
[03:50] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: purged and re-added gdm, lightdm, and kdm... and now it is working
[03:50] <ycy212> ok
[03:50] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: Jesus!
[03:51] <DrPenguin> ryoohki: things like this make me glad I use arch linux.. much more stable than ubuntu :P (not to hate on ubuntu, just had bad experiences post Lucid)
[03:52] <almoxarife> DrPenguin: that's nice, but here you are with the less fortunate, thank you and bravo
[03:52] <ycy212> 김건태=게파이  you know?
[03:52] <DrPenguin> almoxarife: much les fortunate indeed
[03:52] <itsnotabigtruck> anyone know about GPGSM (GnuPG S/MIME)
[03:52] <optimusM> whats a software to burn dvds ?
[03:52] <ryoohki> DrPenguin: unity is terible - beta quality
[03:52] <EncRyptO> anyone know syntax for unzipping a zipped iso dist?     unzip file.zip does not work
[03:52] <DrPenguin> optimusM: Brasero
[03:53] <optimusM> is that like bero
[03:53] <optimusM> nero
[03:53] <EncRyptO> 7z e file.zip does not work, throws errors
[03:53] <DrPenguin> eh, Ive never used nero
[03:53] <optimusM> it says i already have brasero
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: yeah, it is
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> it looks a lot like nero express
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> man, nero sure did turn to garbage :| used to be half-decent software
[03:54] <fernando> hello, friend i need help
[03:54] <itsnotabigtruck> fortunately there's better programs for windows that are free now
[03:54] <pksadiq> EncRyptO: try file file.zip and confirm its zip or not, you may also try unp file.zip
[03:54] <optimusM> add the avi video and then press burn?
[03:55] <fer> with xubuntu
[03:55] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: it doesn't look like it does dvd video, that's a different problem
[03:55] <CarlFK> optimusM: are you trying to make a movie dvd that will play in a dvd player, or just drop files on a dvd?
[03:55] <optimusM> dvd that will play in a dvd player
[03:56] <optimusM> movie dvd
[03:56] <EncRyptO> pksadiq, it says zip archive data   at least v2.0 to extract
[03:56] <itsnotabigtruck> optimusM: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-create-video-dvds.html
[03:56] <itsnotabigtruck> so has no one used GPG before, at all? i've been asking every so often for a while to no response whatsoever
[03:56] <DrPenguin> EncRyptO: is Ark able to explore it?
[03:57] <itsnotabigtruck> to repeat the question: anyone tried using GPG + S/MIME on oneiric? i'm trying to assist someone setting it up but importing the pkcs#12 (.p12) file doesn't cause the key to show up under gpgsm -K
[03:57] <itsnotabigtruck> i.e. it claims it's importing the secret key, but doesn't
[03:57] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, Here is what file file.zip says,,     End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[03:57] <EncRyptO>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[03:58] <ycy212> ...
[03:58] <DrPenguin> EncRyptO: ok… but have you tried to explore it with Ark or some other archive explorer
[03:58] <liwei> jkdsjf
[03:58] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, no not yet, will do now
[03:58] <pksadiq> EncRyptO: if you have md5sum, check to to ensure that the file is not damaged
[03:59] <LostyJai> anyone here use lustre on ubuntu?
[04:00] <szal> !anyone
[04:02] <optimusM> thank you for your help :)
[04:02] <herent> woohoo!  halfway done with updating my website's theme
[04:02] <herent> amazing what you can do with a google font and a little css love
[04:03] <usr13> a google font?
[04:03] <herent> http://www.google.com/webfonts#ChoosePlace:select
[04:04] <LostyJai> wow nice
[04:04] <EncRyptO> DrPenguin, pksadiq , Yeah, it was a bad file, thanks
[04:05] <herent> http://www.werstnet.com/ is the site I just started using the fonts on, plus redid the blog list template quite a bit
[04:10] <mysteriousdarren> herent: I like the site it looks pretty good.
[04:10] <herent> thanks, I did all the theme myself
[04:11] <Grecoo> well, back to 10.10
[04:11] <woodp> nmk
[04:12] <Grecoo> ¿?
[04:16] <woodp> ,,,,
[04:18] <gigi87> hey folks
[04:18] <nvz> howdy
[04:18] <woodp> ,,,,
[04:18] <woodp> mnb
[04:19] <gigi87> is there someone who can help me with a graphics/ "i-added-some dump ppa, installed sth., dont remember what and cant remove it- sth. with lib6 or lib sth"-problem
[04:20] <almoxarife> where is the shutdown process logged to? no, didn't see it in syslog or kernlog
[04:21] <celltech> How do I fix this?
[04:21] <vouth> Hi! Banshee is reporting all of the tracks on my external hard drive as having a size of "-1 bytes". I tried rebooting and then mounting the drive before starting Banshee, but that had no effect. What's wrong here?
[04:21] <gigi87> where in the log viewer can I see what i recently installed?
[04:22] <almoxarife> gigi87: got synaptic installed?
[04:22] <gigi87> yepp, almoxarife
[04:23] <almoxarife> gigi87: look at 'history' then
[04:24] <gigi87> cant find "history" , hint??
[04:24] <almoxarife> gigi87: file tab
[04:25] <gigi87> opps sry, thx, almoxarife
[04:25] <rauch> Does anyone happen to know any way to have access to an iPod/iPhone as the actual UNIX file structure and not just the media folders?
[04:25] <celltech> How do I fix '/ect/init.d/vboxdrv setup' ?
[04:26] <almoxarife> celltech: tried to re-install virtualbox?
[04:26] <gigi87> almoxarife, can terminal show what a package includes, just to make sure i dont remove wrong stuff
[04:26] <celltech> almoxarife Done it 2 times already. and I keep getting that error
[04:27] <almoxarife> gigi87: I am very happy to say that I don't have any idea how to see the info I see in synaptic in terminal
[04:27] <hemanth> Trying to configure SIPE with empathy/pidgin, tired almost all combination for the config, no use...any suggestions?
[04:28] <almoxarife> celltech: have you completely removed-purged it?
[04:28] <gigi87> nope i found a the name of the package, but i think i there was more, maybe the contents, i just did an update in termianl then and I saw like 5 or 6 packages, fpor this same day synaptic is howing just 1
[04:28] <celltech> Probably not. What's the sudo please?
[04:29] <almoxarife> celltech: got synaptic?
[04:29] <celltech> I do
[04:29] <OerHeks> celltech, after install vbox + network driver, did you reboot ?
[04:29] <jon____> can anyone tell me what does this cronjob do? "[ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -depth -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) ! -execdir fuser -s {} 2>/dev/null \; -delete"
[04:29] <celltech> Always do yes
[04:30] <OerHeks> jon____, what should it do ?
[04:30] <almoxarife> celltech: look, use what ever pleases you, you need to wipe virtualbox first, that includes conf anything, then you want to try to re-install it
[04:31] <jon____> OerHeks: I have no idea. its inserted by webmin
[04:31] <celltech> almoxarife Can I get the purge sudo then please?
[04:31] <almoxarife> celltech: I don't do terminal, synaptic > remove and then purge what's left
[04:32] <boldfilter> How do I connect an mtd device like new android devices in ubuntu
[04:33] <almoxarife> boldfilter: mtd?
[04:33] <boldfilter> Ya, like android isnt using usbconnectivity anymore its mtd
[04:34] <almoxarife> boldfilter: like how does that connect?
[04:35] <OerHeks> !mtd
[04:35] <boldfilter> It allows the phone to read/write while the computer its connected to can read and write it as well
[04:36] <almoxarife> boldfilter: phone? how about blu-tooth?
[04:36] <boldfilter> Allowing a phone to not require an sd card
[04:38] <jon____> OerHeks: Any idea?
[04:38] <OerHeks> jon____, nope
[04:41] <gigi87> Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build<IP_ADDRESS>), almoxarife, do you know how i can undo this in terminal, so it removes connected packages as well?
[04:42] <boldfilter> MTP os what I'm talking about not MTD
[04:42] <teste> hi
[04:42] <boldfilter> MTP devices
[04:42] <teste> someone there
[04:42] <teste> i have tryed ubunto in the past
[04:43] <teste> but at that time with ad problems with realteck
[04:43] <teste> wireless
[04:43] <aeon-ltd> teste: ask the question all in ONE line
[04:43] <teste> i whant to know if progress have been made with the realtek wireless cards
[04:43] <gigi87> "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build<IP_ADDRESS>)" [synptic history entry] does anyone know how i can undo this,
[04:44] <teste> in the past they worked but very very slow, if in windows they runed fast in linux very slow
[04:44] <OerHeks> teste realtech makes 1000 wifi cards, wich one ?
[04:44] <teste> rtl8187
[04:45] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you mean to delete package and all dependancies, it would be sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq packagename
[04:45] <gigi87> geoffmcc, thx, will this remove getbed2 as well?
[04:46] <gigi87> geoffmcc, getdeb2
[04:46] <gigi87> "i should go to bed"
[04:46] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you do it with whatever the original package was, if you mean to delete that as well, then yes it will get everything
[04:47] <gigi87> cause the entry show avidemux, which i already removes in software manager, upgraded to getdeb2, does this make sence?
[04:47] <gigi87> not for me..
[04:48] <gigi87> but i think getdeb was the ppa that i had added, geoffmcc
[04:48] <almoxarife> gigi87: you added a ppa called something like 'getdeb.....'
[04:48] <geoffmcc> gigi87: well if you just uninstalled that program, then yes, it would normally leave dependancies behind i think
[04:49] <gigi87> yepp almoxarife, i guess thats what messed up my graphics
[04:49] <gigi87> after the update
[04:50] <gigi87> synaptic log says: "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2", geoffmcc
[04:50] <almoxarife> gigi87: every script-kiddie in the world can submit to 'getdeb' , what you have sounds like a broke dependencies due to ppa addons
[04:50] <gigi87> geoffmcc, dies this make sence to you?
[04:50] <h4xww> hi people
[04:51] <h4xww> does anyone knows a good site to understand Linux from the very deep abstraction layer?
[04:51] <gigi87> almoxarife, yes  i remeber i installed like 6 packages from that ppa, and i think it crooked my graphics alittle
[04:52] <geoffmcc> gigi87: its just saying it replaced the offical package from ubuntu to the getdeb version
[04:52] <almoxarife> gigi87: I wouldn't use getdeb ppa for anything, and if you have you want to purge the ppa
[04:52] <gigi87> hmm yepp, and ptobably six packages as well
[04:52] <h4xww> :-O
[04:52] <vouth> Hi! Banshee is reporting all of the tracks on my external hard drive as having a size of "-1 bytes". I tried rebooting and then mounting the drive before starting Banshee, but that had no effect. Files in my home folder seem unaffected. What's wrong here?
[04:52] <teste> where can i DL last ubunto, i dont whant to burn a disk is possible?
[04:53] <almoxarife> teste: usb?
[04:53] <SwedeMike> boldfilter: there is a package "mtd-utils - Memory Technology Device Utilities"
[04:53] <teste> can be~
[04:53] <aeon-ltd> teste: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[04:54] <boldfilter> A;;right
[04:54] <gigi87> almoxarife, then sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq getdeb2 avidemux libvpx0  ??? , synptic saying "Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build<IP_ADDRESS>)"
[04:54] <geoffmcc> gigi87: when i said that i didnt realise you added a ppa
[04:55] <almoxarife> teste: you can install from usb, but you will need to create a 'start up disk/usb'
[04:55] <geoffmcc> gigi87: your gonna want to use something like ppa-purge
[04:55] <gigi87> geoffmcc, i relaised it, iwanted to upgrade transmission, but thats an old ppa
[04:55] <almoxarife> gigi87: no idea how to do it in terminal, I use synaptic, not ashamed here
[04:56] <geoffmcc> almoxarife: first thing i install
[04:56] <Jeaton> anyone know of any good dvd authoring apps for ubuntu?
[04:57] <Jeaton> i know of tovid, but for some reason its no longer working for me
 gigi87: your gonna want to use something like ppa-purge, dont understand this
[04:57] <geoffmcc> gigi87: if you sudo apt-get install ppa-purge and then do ppa-purge -p ppaname it will delete the ppa and revert all packages back to offical state
[04:57] <Anthony_Raelo> i was watching a vid on the internet and all of a sudden 2 girls 1 cup popped up, any way to prevent this?
[04:57] <geoffmcc> gigi87: once installed see also man ppa-purge
[04:58] <almoxarife> geoffmcc: it will and it may further trash his system, then he remembers you caused it :)
[04:58] <gigi87> geoffmcc, ppa is already removed from config, trying to get rid of these packages and its dependecies now.
[04:58] <gigi87> geoffmcc, packages seem to be Upgraded the following packages: avidemux (1:2.5.2-0ubuntu3) to 1:2.5.4-1~getdeb2  Installed the following packages: libvpx0 (0.9.5-2~build<IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:58] <almoxarife> Anthony_Raelo: turn off the internet
[04:59] <Anthony_Raelo> almoxarife: how do i turn it off?
[04:59] <almoxarife> gigi87: removing the ppa does not purge it!
[04:59] <gigi87> geoffmcc, and afterward i hope an apt-get update will redo the old satuts
[04:59] <gigi87> status
[05:00] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Don't click on links your friends send you. :) Also, add an entry to /etc/hosts to point the url to <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:00] <robmillernow> noob here got a disappearing desktop on a Dell Inspiron 1520
[05:00] <gigi87> i know, but what iexactly is purge remove package and dependencies, almoxarfe?
[05:00] <geoffmcc> gigi87: should be fine, i never had a problem with it, but then again it was only once or twice i used it
[05:00] <robmillernow> I'd love to REINSTALL but i can't the the thing to boot from CD
[05:00] <gigi87> i know, but what iexactly is purge remove package and dependencies, almoxarife, geoffmcc?
[05:00] <robmillernow> anybody help??
[05:01] <robmillernow> no menu bars, no nothing.
[05:01] <nem1981> Need room for google API queries.. anyone knows>
[05:01] <Anthony_Raelo> powertool08: the first video was this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b7DKQx5SCw  then it gone to that stuff
[05:01] <Anthony_Raelo> creepy
[05:01] <robmillernow> just a blank desktop background
[05:01] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Thanks but I'll pass.
[05:01] <robmillernow> anybody
[05:01] <robmillernow> ?
[05:01] <nem1981> Need IRC room for google API queries.. anyone knows
[05:01] <geoffmcc> gigi87: im not understanding, where are you seeing that?
[05:01] <almoxarife> gigi87: purging the ppa will strip your system of all the crap it installed, but then you get to hope that the purge does not further cripple your system, it can, it might, it's a crap shoot
[05:02] <robmillernow> ??
[05:02] <geoffmcc> gigi87: ah i get what you were saying now, sorry
[05:02] <Anthony_Raelo> ok added the entry
[05:02] <Anthony_Raelo> do i need to restart my pc?
[05:02] <robmillernow> anybody want to help me out?
[05:03] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: ask your question, if someone can answer they will
[05:03] <powertool08> Anthony_Raelo: Probably at least the networking service.
[05:03] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 and reuse the former status?
[05:03] <almoxarife> Anthony_Raelo: I am going to whine to the ops, as soon as I figure out how, brb
[05:03] <Anthony_Raelo> why?
[05:03] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:03] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 AND DEPENDENCIES and reuse the former status?
[05:03] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:04] <robmillernow> I have a blank desktop background -- no windows, no bars, no nothing.  What the hell's going on?  I'd like to reinstall, but i can't get it to boot from CD
[05:04] <powertool08> nem1981: Try here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-ajax-search-api/browse_thread/thread/23b471b4323f922b
[05:04] <gigi87> almoxarife, im not sure, maybe it s better in terminal cause of dependencies? im a total newb here^^
[05:04] <robmillernow> If i could get the system to display normally, I wouldn't need to reinstall, but I don't see any alternative
[05:04] <robmillernow> CAN ANYONE HELP?
[05:05] <Anthony_Raelo> robmillernow: trash the pc
[05:05] <almoxarife> gigi87: as you please
[05:05] <geoffmcc> !patience | robmilernow
[05:05] <reokie> Are there are types of ram with the same keys? I installed another stick of ram, but one is taller, but they are keyed the same
[05:05] <robmillernow> i'm trying to revive my father's Dell Inspiron.  It's been running Ubuntu for over a year, and since I was here last holiday, it's gone tits up.
[05:06] <gigi87> geoffmcc almoxarife which command am i supposed to used here? removing avidemux , getdeb2, libvpx0 and reuse the former status?
[05:06] <almoxarife> gigi87: in synaptic?
[05:06] <robmillernow> I WANT to be able to recommend this operating system, but advice like "trash the pc" doesn't jam me full of confidence.
[05:06] <gigi87> almoxarife, in synaptic, just searching thes packages and unmark?
[05:06] <almoxarife> gigi87: yeap
[05:07] <Jeaton> what is a good dvd authoring app for ubuntu besides tovid?
[05:07] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: since its a community enviroment, unfortunatly you get responses like that at times, sorry
[05:07] <powertool08> robmillernow: Why can't you boot from cd? Is it enabled as the 1st boot option in bios?
[05:07] <gigi87> almoxarife, will this reproduce the former status as well, and properly remove denpendencies, do u know?
[05:07] <reokie> Jeaton: Brasero?
[05:07] <robmillernow> when i hit F2 to go to setup, it gives me the option of several versions of Linux, but not to reboot from CD
[05:07] <almoxarife> robmillernow: if you want to install from scratch I recommend doing it with the 'alternate' iso/disk for your machine type
[05:07] <robmillernow> it's not really a "boot" menu since Ubuntu came along...
[05:08] <robmillernow> so Ubuntu specifically FOR this Dell Inspiron 1520 ?
[05:08] <robmillernow> that exists?
[05:08] <powertool08> robmillernow: Try f9 or f12, sometimes those give you the option to boot from cd.
[05:08] <robmillernow> k thanks powertool08 trying that
[05:08] <almoxarife> gigi87: no, can't say, this is ppa's are frowned on
[05:09] <Chotaz> Hey guys
[05:10] <Chotaz> i just finished fresh installing my machine, but after restarting after the instalation, im not able to boot into the system anymore, im currently on liveCD
[05:10] <gigi87> thx, almoxarife, i wont touch them anymore, ^^ learned sth today
[05:10] <urlin2u> Chotaz, do you get the grub menu?
[05:10] <gigi87> geoffmcc, you still there?
[05:10] <Chotaz> urlin2u: no, the monitor goes to sleep after some random colored squares appear
[05:10] <robmillernow> nope -- those two keys just make it beep.  Yeah, the boot menu is now the GRUB menu ...
[05:11] <robmillernow> doesn't really get me to the drives anymore like it used to before installing Ubuntu
[05:11] <urlin2u> Chotaz, is ubuntu the only OS?
[05:11] <Chotaz> urlin2u: currently yes
[05:11] <urlin2u> Chotaz, you familiar with nomodeset?
[05:11] <powertool08> robmillernow: Is this a laptop or a desktop? What is your motherboard manufacturer and model?
[05:11] <Chotaz> urlin2u: never heard of
[05:12] <robmillernow> laptop ...  not sure where to find the motherboard manu and model without getting to menus that don't appear anymore, right?
[05:12] <geoffmcc> gigi87: yes
[05:12] <powertool08> robmillernow: Ok, laptop brand and model?
[05:12] <Jeaton> reokie: Brasero does dvd authoring?
[05:13] <robmillernow> Dell Inspiron 1520 laptop
[05:13] <urlin2u> Chotaz, so power opn and tap the shift key this should give you the grub menu, hit e for edit and using the cursor keys navigate to the end of the kernel where it says no splash or splash and type in nomodeset, then boot if you get e terminal type stsrtx.
[05:13] <gigi87> now, do you still remember my problem, geoffmcc?
[05:13] <powertool08> Jeaton: I don't think it does. Just cd burning.
[05:13] <powertool08> !brasero > Jeaton
[05:13] <gigi87> i m trying one of these commands here geoffmcc
[05:13] <urlin2u> !nomodeset | Chotaz
[05:14] <Jeaton> powertool08: I didnt think it did, reokie suggested that when I asked about a decent app that does authoring besides tovid
[05:14] <shaneo> hey guys any reason why a notification wouldnt appear in unity taskbar even when setby the program
[05:14] <geoffmcc> gigi87: yes
[05:14] <Chotaz> urlin2u: im not sure if ill be able to get to the grub menu, after the bios screen, i see some randomly colored squared on my screen and then it goes to sleep
[05:14] <powertool08> Jeaton: I don't know of any as I haven't used them, I'm assuming reokie did not realize you were asking for authoring versus writing.
[05:15] <urlin2u> Chotaz, the link might give a better description, you may need a graphics driver. Since you have only one OS the grub menu is not shown the colored squares are after this menu most likely.
[05:15] <Chotaz> also, I always used ubuntu and never had this problem
[05:15] <iToast> Im just a little curios.
[05:15] <Jeaton> i'm trying out bombono now, hopefully its decent
[05:15] <iToast> Im using ubuntu server 10.4
[05:15] <iToast> Could i get linux kernel 3.x?
[05:15] <Chotaz> so starting x like that and then installing the drivers should solve it_
[05:16] <gigi87> , geoffmcc, either sudo dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq avidemux getdeb2 libvpx0 ----OR---------- sudo apt-get install ppa-purge and then do ppa-purge -p ppaname, but i dont remember the ppas name...
[05:16] <powertool08> robmillernow: It should be the f2 key, I'd suggest turning the laptop off, then turn it on and as soon as you hit the power button, hit f2 as fast as you can but be sure to release in between taps.
[05:16] <Chotaz> ill try it, brb
[05:16] <urlin2u> Chotaz, hopefully if you get in do a update and upgrade then look in additional drivers from the menu.
[05:16] <robmillernow> yep, did that... it takes me to the GRUB menu
[05:16] <powertool08> robmillernow: fast and repeatedly of course.
[05:17] <szal> iToast: in 10.04, no
[05:17] <robmillernow> shit.  it worked.  thanks.
[05:17] <iToast> szal: Why not?
[05:17] <iToast> How about 11.x
[05:17] <powertool08> robmillernow: no problem.
[05:18] <szal> iToast: because it's not available
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[05:18] <szal> iToast: 11.10 has 3.0.0
[05:18] <FloodBot1> oplacker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <oplacker> what do I do
[05:18] <iToast> :D
[05:18] <geoffmcc> gigi87: wasnt the ppa getdeb? no you would just use the ppa-purge -p ppaname. like i said, i never had problems, but someone said they did, so assume there is a risk involved in doing so i guess.
[05:18] <iToast> How hard is it to perform the upgrade...
[05:18] <szal> !ot | oplacker
[05:18] <powertool08> Woo! I won! :D
[05:19] <iToast> How hard is it to upgrade ubuntu server 10.4 to 11.10
[05:20] <szal> iToast: upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 to 11.10..  easier to reinstall w/ 11.10 or to wait for 12.04
[05:20] <urlin2u> gigi87, look in sourceslist.d in /etc/apt you can gksudo there and remove it.
[05:20] <robmillernow> aaaand changing the boot sequence takes me to the GRUB MENU.  square one
[05:20] <gigi87> hmm geoffmcc, ill give it a shot, i guess is it "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge" and then " ppa-purge -p getdeb "2, not an url or sth?
[05:20] <iToast>  szal No direct upgrade from 10.4 to 11.04?
[05:20] <szal> iToast: no
[05:20] <iToast> ...
[05:20] <iToast> Is it worth it?
[05:20] <geoffmcc> gigi87: it defaults to ppa.launchpad.net
[05:20] <iToast> Ok, everyone alive in the channel, can i ask something
[05:20] <powertool08> robmillernow: Can you disable booting to the hdd?
[05:21] <gigi87> urlinu2, i already did this, so i cant say its exact name
[05:21] <szal> depends on what you consider being wirth it
[05:21] <geoffmcc> gigi87: so no need to use host
[05:21] <iToast> Should i stick with 10.4 server and wait for 12.0 or upgrade to 11.10?!
[05:21] <robmillernow> yeah.  i'll try that now.
[05:21] <urlin2u> iToast, yes ask it.
[05:21] <iToast> Should i stick with 10.4 server and wait for 12.0 or upgrade to 11.10?!
[05:21] <szal> !repeat | iToast
[05:21] <iToast> szal: -_- i was repeating for urlin2u
[05:21] <gigi87> geoffmcc use getdeb2 or getdeb in command?
[05:22] <iToast> szal: Also, ugm, ubuntu has a stock install of python 2.6 right
[05:22] <gigi87> use getdeb2 or getdeb in command for ppaname?
[05:22] <gigi87> use getdeb2 or getdeb in command for ppaname?, geoffmcc?
[05:22]  * szal doesn't care too much about what Python version is installed as long as it works
[05:22] <iToast> ...
[05:23] <iToast> oh, 2.6.5
[05:23] <iToast> PERFECT
[05:23] <geoffmcc> gigi87: im not sure, im going by what you tell me. looks like getdeb though with a quick google search
[05:23] <szal> !info python
[05:23] <geoffmcc> gigi87: also, patience please
[05:24] <gigi87> geoffmcc, i'm sorry
[05:24] <gigi87> eyes are getting tired
[05:24] <lyrae> ok. i can't alt+f2 anymore to run somethign. what's the equivalent in gnome3
[05:24] <lyrae> of alt + f2
[05:25] <robmillernow> yeah it said that the media drive failed, but i'm now running tests, and the DVD drive seems to work fine
[05:25] <szal> iToast: on 11.10 there's a choice of Python 2.6, 2.7 and 3.2
[05:25] <iToast> 3.2 seems useless
[05:25] <robmillernow> unless this machine is too old to HAVE a DVD drive, and only has a CD drive...  hmm...
[05:26] <szal> iToast: and if you're actually running a _server_ it's best to stick w/ the LTS, unless you want to upgrade every 18 months at the latest
[05:26] <powertool08> robmillernow: Its possible, it will tell you on the tray.
[05:26] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: i have done that, lol
[05:26] <iToast> szal: I am, ok, thanks for the advice.
[05:27] <geoffmcc> robmillernow: if you dont have a cd maybe bios supports usb
[05:27] <szal> iToast: the LTS version is supported for 5 years on the server..  so unless you need new features that will be in 12.04 there's no need to upgrade for another 3 years and a bit
[05:27] <urlin2u> gigi87, so your tring to remove the ppa link right?
[05:28] <iToast> szal: security?
[05:28] <gigi87> no urlin2u, i did that by hand, arleady
[05:28] <urlin2u> gigi87, cool just checking.
[05:28] <gigi87> when trying to install, sudo apt-get install ppa-purge Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package ppa-purge, geoffmcc
[05:28] <szal> iToast: including that..  as far as I get it, after 3 years of lifetime, there will only be security updates for the remaining 2 years
[05:28] <gigi87> thx, urlin2u
[05:29] <blackbox> Hey,  does anybody know what the difference is from the GPL and LGPL copyright laws ?
[05:29] <geoffmcc> gigi87: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:29] <urlin2u> gigi87, never heard of ppa-purge to install it can be done in a regular set up without that install I believe.
[05:30] <gigi87> 10.4 lucid, geoffmcc
[05:30] <szal> blackbox: (1) these are not laws but licences; (2) discussing licences is off-topic here (not support-related); please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <blackbox> ok
[05:31] <almoxarife> !info ppa-purge
[05:31] <robmillernow> it's a DVD drive ...  and honestly, the USB instructions for Mac are too damn complicated
[05:31] <powertool08> robmillernow: Mac? I thought it was a Dell..
[05:32] <iToast> how do i restart the php dameon? i tried restart service php
[05:32] <EvilResistance> iToast, service php5 restart?
[05:33] <iToast> oh
[05:33] <iToast> How do i forget the 5 -_-, i'm a moron
[05:33] <EvilResistance> iToast, sudo service php5[hit the tab key] restart
[05:33] <EvilResistance> ;P
[05:33] <hacked_kernel> ?
[05:33] <iToast> Nvm
[05:33] <iToast> i don't need to any more :D
[05:34] <robmillernow> yeah i'm prepping Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro to get my dad's crappy Dell to work.
[05:34] <geoffmcc> gigi87: sorry, i guess it not available in your version. im sure there are multiple ways to do it, if no one else can help now there always the forums or google
[05:35] <iToast> I'm asking a favour.
[05:35] <iToast> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/smf/
[05:35] <iToast> oops, isay.dyndns.org/smf
[05:35] <iToast> Can anyone test that it loads?
[05:35] <robmillernow> yeah those Mac USB directions are really effing confusing.  I'm not THAT much of a noob, but damn.
[05:36] <gigi87> thx, geoffmcc, will google it later on, it seems ppa-purge cant be intsalled in 10.4
[05:36] <powertool08> robmillernow: Like Apple Mac? Why are you looking at Mac directions if you have a Dell? I'm confused.
[05:36] <szal> !info ppa-purge lucid
[05:37] <pitlimit> I'm upgrading to 11.10 from 11.04, but the upgrade has been stuck on "Installing the upgrades" with the Terminal message Preconfiguring packages.... can anyone tell me how I should proceed to make sure the upgrade finishes? It's been stuck here for about 12 hours
[05:37] <robmillernow> i'm using my MacBook Pro (only other computer in the house because I brought it with me here to my Dad's house) to download Ubuntu and used the Macbook to burn the .iso
[05:37] <powertool08> Ah
[05:38] <robmillernow> I can't USE the Dell because it's crapped out.  The Dell is the computer I'm trying to fix.
[05:38] <robmillernow> it's the one that won't boot from CD
[05:38] <pitlimit> what are you trying to do robmillernow
[05:38] <pitlimit> you're trying to install ubuntu from disk?
[05:39] <urlin2u> robmillernow, are you sure that dell will boot from a usb?
[05:39] <robmillernow> urlin2u it's one of the boot options, yeah
[05:39] <urlin2u> robmillernow, cool
[05:40] <robmillernow> pitlimit:  I installed Ubuntu on my Dad's old laptop last Christmas ... it worked fine for a while, but somewhere since then it's only started showing a black desktop background
[05:40] <robmillernow> pitlimit: If I can't get his Ubuntu to come back to life showing menus and bars and crap, then I figure I'll just reinstall from DVD ...  it won't reboot from DVD
[05:41] <robmillernow> I get "PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable"
[05:41] <robmillernow> BUT i ran diagnostics, and the "media drive" is fine
[05:41] <urlin2u> robmillernow, you get the grub menu try nomodeset at the end of the kernel inplace of splash use e to edit.
[05:41] <powertool08> robmillernow: Thats trying to boot from the network then.
[05:42] <urlin2u> Chotaz, you get in?
[05:45] <robmillernow> THANK YOU urlin2u -- concise advice from a helpful individual.  thanks tons.
[05:46] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?
[05:48] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?  the disc boots and spins very fast for a few minutes then stops does this new version make any sounds like earlier versions do when they are booted?
[05:48] <pp7> how do i record from the sound card in 11.10?
[05:48] <pp7> all i get is silence with everything i've tried
[05:49] <oplacker> Ubuntu, Mint, and Debian are crappy OSes that don't work right and have to be recompiled from scratch to work
[05:49] <oplacker> My suggestion is to try a better OS like Gentoo or Mandriva or CentOS
[05:50] <EvilResistance> oplacker:  #ubuntu-offtopic please, if your statement isnt regarding support
[05:50] <oplacker> fuck you
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[05:51] <EvilResistance> !ops
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[05:51] <FloodBot1> oplacker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <oplacker> i  (    u  l
[05:51] <ultrixx> lol
[05:52] <TiMiDo> how lame is that python bot
[05:52] <TiMiDo> ;P
[05:52] <pp7> ROFL @ oplacker
[05:52] <elky> TiMiDo, pp7, no need for that.
[05:52] <pp7> oplacker: got out the wrong side of bed this morning?
[05:52] <EvilResistance> what elky said
[05:53] <szal> spambot, we had a number of those in the past few weeks
[05:53] <EvilResistance> pp7:  see what elky said
[05:53] <pp7> elky: no need for what?
[05:53] <oplacker> so
[05:53] <oplacker> .okay
[05:53] <elky> oplacker, do you plan on behaving?
[05:53] <oplacker> Type /msg geordi geordi << 1 + 2
[05:53] <oplacker> You might learn something
[05:53] <elky> oplacker, that's not behaving. please try again
[05:53] <geoffmcc> please dont feed the trolls
[05:54] <lyrae> I am trying to install apache2, but i get this: http://tabbit.org/gb9_Bn  anyone know why?
[05:54] <pp7> elky: no need for what? what did i do wrong?
[05:54] <elky> geoffmcc, i'm not feeding, i'm giving him an opportunity to not get kicked.
[05:54] <lyrae> dependencies problem...even though it has the ubuntu icon next to it
[05:54] <elky> pp7, you did feed the troll.
[05:54] <pp7> oh duh grow up!
[05:54] <geoffmcc> elky: clearly unwarrented
[05:54] <pp7> all i did was laugh
[05:54] <pp7> cant even have fun around here
[05:55] <ultrixx> oplacker: you have no skillz, friend
[05:55] <elky> pp7, sure, have fun, just don't encourage by giving the reaction they wanted.
[05:55] <oplacker> What do you want me to do, a notice flood?
[05:55] <elky> ultrixx, please don't.
[05:55] <ultrixx> elky: ok
[05:56] <ghost46542> sup bishes
[05:56] <pp7> lol
[05:56] <pp7> oops, shouldn't have lol'ed
[05:56] <pp7> LOL
[05:56] <optimusM> how do i remove a PATH=
[05:58] <nickgaw> Hi, How in ubuntu 11.10 desktop do you enable orca?  the disc boots and spins very fast for a few minutes then stops does this new version make any sounds like earlier versions do when they are booted? sorry if anyone answered me I lost it in all that flooding.
[05:59] <oplacker> Aah well, hep tep rains again.  Sara tara tolmus preed.  With or without meatballs.  Does anyone helpa with a floot bot?  Tragalarian plexels.
[05:59] <oplacker> Abis tripolis helmis
[06:05] <ultrixx> what is the motivation for those people to behave like that? i can't understand it
[06:05] <nickgaw> no clue if they did not like ubuntu then why did they join this channel?
[06:07] <szal> ultrixx: pure boredom, I guess
[06:07] <TiMiDo> they want people only to speak about Ubuntu here that's why all the fussing is around that's why they have #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <nickgaw> does ubuntu 11.10 upon successful boot make any sounds like the earlier versions did?
[06:08] <TiMiDo> this is only a support channel and for talking about anything they refer it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:09] <TiMiDo> nickgaw, check www.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[06:09] <sfears> nickgaw: yes, i think there is supposed to be a startup_wav
[06:09] <nac4l> Anyone here got comcrap and know how to configure dyndns?
[06:10] <sfears> nac4l: why are you trying to configure dyndns?
[06:10] <nickgaw> the reason I am asking is I am totally blind and know they changed the process in which the screen reader orca is started on the live disk so am trying to find out the proper way to start ubuntu with accessibility enabled where would be a good place to learn how to do this?
[06:11] <nac4l> what kind of a question is that, because I'm cool.
[06:11] <TiMiDo> sfears, http://bobbyallen.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/dyndns-client-setup-on-ubuntu/