[00:26] <varunendra> Hi, Two users at #ubuntu just spammed me in PM - AnimeFan, Kisami
[00:26] <varunendra> Their message : <AnimeFan> Hello please visit new project [/join #animefan] look in topic for more information /msg @ if you like it please stay whit us :)
[00:29] <k1l_> thanks for reporting varunendra. we will take a look at it
[00:30] <Unit193> k-lined.
[00:30] <varunendra> Corey, just asked them in the spamming channel to stop :) Thanks !
[00:31] <Corey> No worries.
[18:18] <Myrtti> my magic spider sense says that's someone we know quite well on this channel


[19:11] <dstufft> heya, I was wondering if https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1290847 could get SRU'd into trusty? A debian patch broke a major documented feature of Python 3 and it causes a regression from other versions of ubuntu which had Python 3.3+
[21:19] <Ampelbein> dstufft: Hi! I asked barry in #ubuntu-devel about the status of 1290847 and as far as I understood, he asked you to open a SRU request. Do you need assistance with filing one?
[21:20] <dstufft> Ampelbein: I'm not entirely sure the process :) The Procedure page says to update the existing ticket, but I don't have permissions to do that. So I'm not sure if I need to do something different
[21:23] <Ampelbein> dstufft: At this point it's probably easier and cleaner to file a new bug about this and point to the existing report.
[21:23] <dstufft> Ampelbein: okies
[21:24] <Ampelbein> dstufft: I have a template somewhere for SRU's, let me look through my folders.
[21:24] <dstufft> there's one on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates that I assume is ok?
[21:26] <dstufft> I'm not a debian nor ubuntu maintainer (I'm actually upstream for pip, and the author of the thing in CPython that that patch broke) so I'm a little fish out of water trying to sort though the procedures, so sorry if some of this should be obvious.
[21:29] <Ampelbein> dstufft: Yes, that is a good template.
[21:30] <Ampelbein> dstufft: No worries about asking, we are all happy to help. ;)
[21:31] <Ampelbein> dstufft: To file a new bug, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+filebug and put a good description inthe summary, like "SRU: pyvenv fails due to mising ensurepip module"
[21:46] <dstufft> Ampelbein: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1365728 :) hopefully that's done correctly
[21:53] <Ampelbein> dstufft: Looks good, I nominated the bug for Trusty and set the Importance to "Medium".
[21:54] <Ampelbein> dstufft: Now a fixed package has to be uploaded and it will be reviewed while waiting in the release queue.
[21:56] <Ampelbein> dstufft: I assume barry will do that, I have pinged him the bug number in ubuntu-devel.
[21:57] <dstufft> Ampelbein: cool, thanks


[10:33] <Kii> hello there,
[10:33] <Kii> I need help managing my versions of java
[10:34] <Kii> I use to have a default-java, but it disapeared with the removal of openjdk
[10:34] <Kii> and since I did that, a new version came out, java 1.5 gcj
[10:35] <Kii> but I've downloaded jdk1.7 by oracle, and want it to be the only one
[10:35] <Kii> how to I erase this 1.5gcj ?
[10:41] <Kii> found it
[10:41] <Kii> bye


[00:03] <leonardr> rockstar, if you're still around?
[00:06] <mwhudson> leonardr: i'm here
[00:06] <leonardr> mwhudson, huzzah
[00:06] <leonardr> give me a few min to write an mp
[00:07] <mwhudson> leonardr: sure
[00:07] <mwhudson> request the mp
[00:07] <mwhudson> leonardr: i might be having lunch but i won't be away for very long
[00:10] <leonardr> mwhudson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~leonardr/launchpadlib/use-beta-service/+merge/19453
[00:13] <mwhudson> leonardr: done
[00:15] <leonardr> mwhudson: actually i need you again--i ran the launchpad-based tests but not the unit test, and my change caused a tiny test failure (which is good, imo)
[00:15] <mwhudson> leonardr: same merge proposal?
[00:15] <leonardr> mwhudson: yes, i had to change one line in a test in addition to one line in the code :)
[00:16] <leonardr> i just pushed it
[00:17] <leonardr> hmm
[00:17] <leonardr> i'm doing another merge proposal
[00:17] <leonardr> since, sensibly, the old one stopped covering my changes after you approved it
[00:17] <mwhudson> leonardr: er no, it just took a while
[00:17] <leonardr> ah, ok
[00:19] <leonardr> mwhudson: thanks, all done!
[00:19] <mwhudson> yay
[02:12] <thumper> trivial review for someone: https://code.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/fix-2a-description/+merge/19455
[10:10] <noodles775> adeuring: just otp... I can do a ui review, but if it's not urgent (ie. can wait until this evening) I'd recommend requesting one from sinzui (or checking with him).
[10:11] <noodles775> As he's wanting to build up his ui reviews, afaik.
[10:11] <adeuring> noodles775: OK; I'll ask him
[11:23] <jtv> adiroiban: thanks for a great branch!  Can I land it in the form I reviewed?
[11:24] <adiroiban> jtv: hi. I have fixed the formatting problems and they should be pushed
[11:24] <adiroiban> aren't they?
[11:24] <jtv> adiroiban: then please push!
[11:25] <adiroiban> let me check what happend
[11:25] <adiroiban> I can see them here https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~adiroiban/launchpad/bug-127171/+merge/19444
[11:25] <adiroiban> on the MP page
[11:25] <jtv> adiroiban: looking... sorry for the confusion, got a bit distracted here
[11:26] <adiroiban> jtv: don't worry
[11:26] <adiroiban> better safe, than sorry
[13:12] <noodles775> Hi jtv, if you're still reviewing, I've got a branch that is just a test refactoring:
[13:12] <noodles775> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/launchpad/ppa-privatisation-test-refactor/+merge/19482
[13:20] <henninge> noodles775: jtv is unavailable this afternooon
[13:21] <henninge> I am sorry. ;)
[14:35] <noodles775> henninge: np, thanks for the heads-up!
[15:36] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles775: do you still need someone to review your branch?
[15:36] <noodles775> EdwinGrubbs: yeah, that'd be great.
[15:36] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles775: are there really 774 other people with the nick "noodles"?
[15:39] <adeuring> sinzui: thanks for your review!
[15:39] <sinzui> your welcome.
[15:49] <allenap> EdwinGrubbs: Are you free? If so, can you review an incremental change to a branch? http://paste.ubuntu.com/378410/
[15:49] <EdwinGrubbs> allenap: I'm already started on a branch, but it shouldn't take too long.
[15:50] <allenap> EdwinGrubbs: Thanks :)
[15:50] <noodles775> EdwinGrubbs: heh, I just didn't like noodles2 (-:
[16:00] <abentley> noodles775, your nick implies that anyone can execute you.  Have you committed some kind of capital crime?
[16:05] <noodles775> hah ha.... ha :)
[16:05] <jml> and the obscure pun of the day award goes too...
[16:38] <salgado> EdwinGrubbs, I have a trivial one (https://code.launchpad.net/~salgado/canonical-identity-provider/dont-use-launchpad-login/+merge/18940) for review.  will you have time for it?
[17:14] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles775: why is the SoyuzTestPublisher needed in doc/archive.txt?
[17:15] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles775: also, what is the point of this?
[17:15] <EdwinGrubbs> naked_cprov_archive.sources_cached = 1000
[17:20] <noodles775> EdwinGrubbs: the SoyuzTestPublisher is used to create consistent publishing records for an archive (without going through the publisher).
[17:20] <noodles775> It's needed there to populate the private ppa with some packages.
[17:21] <noodles775> And the point of setting the sources_cached is to show that they are *not* included in the getNumberOfPPA*() calls as the archive is private.
[17:22] <noodles775> Perhaps the string "Caches for private PPAs are not considered.' needs to be expanded?
[17:23] <noodles775> (I'm just refactoring the test to pass, I didn't update the text unless it was wrong or something I noted as easy to improve).
[17:34] <noodles775> EdwinGrubbs: I'm going for dinner, but will check back in case you have any other questions (or pop them on the MP, whatever you prefer). Thanks
[17:34] <EdwinGrubbs> noodles775: I don't have any more questions. I'll send the review in a couple of minutes.
[17:52] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: I can review that. Where did it go? the link doesn't work.
[17:53] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: oh, I just don't have permission to view it
[17:54] <salgado> EdwinGrubbs, can you try again now?
[17:55] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: I can view it now, but it doesn't look like I have permission to review it.
[17:56] <salgado> EdwinGrubbs, I've requested a review from you now
[18:06] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: how do you run the tests.
[18:08] <salgado> EdwinGrubbs, need to merge that branch into lib/canonical/signon and then you can run the tests using bin/test
[18:19] <EdwinGrubbs> salgado: r=me
[18:19] <salgado> thanks EdwinGrubbs
[19:56] <intellectronica> can anyone review a tiny diff to fix the failure in db-devel?
[19:57] <intellectronica> deryck: maybe you, if you're still around? ^^^ it's only two lines
[19:58] <deryck> intellectronica, sure.  ping me the MP please.
[19:58] <intellectronica> deryck: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/378575/
[19:58] <intellectronica> i'll create an MP
[19:59] <intellectronica> basically, i'm committing the transaction to get the trigger that populates the patch age column fired
[20:01] <deryck> intellectronica, ah, ok.  makes sense.  r=me.
[20:01] <intellectronica> deryck: thanks!
[20:03] <deryck> intellectronica, I'll stamp the MP when it's ready if you ping me again.
[20:04] <intellectronica> deryck: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~intellectronica/launchpad/test-failure-fix/+merge/19529
[20:07] <deryck> intellectronica, done.
[20:07] <intellectronica> deryck: thanks again
[20:07] <deryck> np!
[20:12] <rockstar> Edwin-lunch, may I add a small branch to your queue?
[20:32] <EdwinGrubbs> rockstar: yes, you may
[20:32] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, great.
[20:39] <abentley> mwhudson, https://code.launchpad.net/~abentley/launchpad/branch-url/+merge/19441
[20:41] <mwhudson> abentley: noted
[20:41] <jtv> EdwinGrubbs, time for a big one?  https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/launchpad/bug-507681/+merge/19531
[20:42] <EdwinGrubbs> jtv: probably not, but I haven't seen rockstar's branch yet, so it might go quick enough.
[20:42] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rockstar/launchpad/makefile-hackery/+merge/19533
[20:42] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, mine really is quite small.
[20:43] <jtv> rockstar: btw you still haven't OK'ed this one: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jtv/launchpad/bug-499405-translationtemplates-buildmanager/+merge/17811
[20:44] <rockstar> jtv, done.
[20:44] <jtv> rockstar: \o/ thanks
[21:51] <EdwinGrubbs> rockstar: your branch has conflicts
[21:51] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, fixing now.
[21:59] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, conflict resolved, pushing now.
[22:20] <EdwinGrubbs> rockstar: r=me
[22:21] <rockstar> EdwinGrubbs, thanks!


[07:36] <CIA-3> debian-installer: ogra * r1275 ubuntu/build/pkg-lists/cdrom/arm/omap.cfg: on OMAP the HID stack was decided to not be built in so we need input-modules-*.udeb in d-i by default
[07:37] <CIA-3> debian-installer: ogra * r1276 ubuntu/debian/changelog: update changelog according to last change
[11:02] <CIA-3> ubiquity: evand * r3924 testing/ (313 files in 20 dirs): Merge with trunk.
[22:57] <markit> I've an, at least, 9.10 and 10.04 bug in the installer in presence of a mb raid controller, any developer that can take care of filing a bug with relevant info (that I can provide, if told how to do)
[22:58] <markit> the "alternate installer" works fine, fortunatly
[22:58] <markit> seems that the graphical installer ignores a message about what to do with raid controller (that has been disabled by bios, but the installer finds... mistery)
[22:59] <markit> and shows an empty partition window at the stage where you should select where to install
[23:01] <markit> maybe ev is interested :)
[23:33] <markit> "Ubiquity does not use Launchpad for bug tracking."
[23:33] <markit> where should I post a bug related to it?
[23:34] <markit> I'm new of ubuntu, I've used only debian before


[00:09] <acr> hello. I'm in the process of figuring out what tuner to get for a mythbuntu box. Ideally, I'd love to get the hauppauge hvr 2250 but everything I've seen says there's no driver for it. Does anybody have an update on if or when it might be a viable option?
[00:10] <acr> !help
[00:10] <Zinn> !help Use ! followed by a topic to get help on the topic (if it exists) example: !logs.  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].  For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi
[00:40] <acr> !antec
[00:40] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about antec
[00:40] <acr> !antecblack
[00:40] <Zinn> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=907256
[01:08] <acr> hello. I'm in the process of figuring out what tuner to get for a mythbuntu box. Ideally, I'd love to get the hauppauge hvr 2250 but everything I've seen says there's no driver for it. Does anybody have an update on if or when it might be a viable option?
[01:13] <foxbuntu> acr, its unknown at this point
[01:13] <foxbuntu> the support continues to get better for the HVR-1600 however
[01:15] <acr> foxbuntu: do you know of any forums or other places I can ask? I really like having 2 tuners in one card
[01:15] <foxbuntu> acr, HVR-1600 is dual tuners
[01:15] <foxbuntu> although its Analog + Digital
[01:16] <acr> foxbuntu: dual or hybrid? I'm looking at the site now and don't see anything about it having 2 hybrid tuners, like the 2250
[01:17] <foxbuntu> not 2 hybrid
[01:17] <foxbuntu> A single NTSC and Single ATSC
[01:17] <acr> right, the 2250 has 2 NTSC and 2 ATSC, which is what I like most about it
[01:17] <foxbuntu> acr, indeed
[01:18] <acr> but if it's not supported, I suppose it's easy to get the 1600, then upgrade later if and when it gets supported
[01:18] <foxbuntu> acr, the only other place to ask is the v4l forums
[01:19] <acr> foxbuntu: thanks, I'll give that a shot. Do you have a 1600?
[01:19] <foxbuntu> 3 of them
[01:19] <acr> wow
[01:19] <foxbuntu> + 2 PVR-150s
[01:19] <foxbuntu> + 1 HD-PVR
[01:19] <foxbuntu> + 1 HDHR
[01:19] <acr> and it works well with digital or analog? That's a ton, is that all in one machine?
[01:19] <foxbuntu> no several
[01:20] <foxbuntu> I own www.foxmediasystems.com, thats my current dev hardware
[01:20] <acr> I saw a link to them on the mythbuntu website... but that website is down for me
[01:20] <foxbuntu> oh crap
[01:20] <foxbuntu> when did that happen
[01:20] <foxbuntu> thanks for saying something
[01:21] <acr> no problem
[01:22] <acr> I know this is asking a lot, but I've never built a computer before and I'm not entirely sure everything will work together. It sounds like you have a lot of experience with it. Would you mind taking a look at the list of parts I'm planning on buying and telling me if there are any problems you can see that i might have missed?
[01:23] <acr> I just left a post in the mythbuntu forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986633 , if you're willing
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> *cough* foxmediasystems.com *cough*
[01:24] <tgm4883_laptop> heh
[01:26] <acr> (still not online...)
[01:26] <tgm4883_laptop> !stab foxbuntu
[01:26]  * Zinn stabs foxbuntu with a sharpened mce remote.
[01:27] <foxbuntu> acr, I am working on it
[01:27] <acr> I know, I was just letting tgm4883_laptop know it was done
[01:27] <acr> are you the person who runs the site?
[01:29] <tgm4883_laptop> foxbuntu, is
[01:30] <acr> wow. I'll have to take a look
[01:33] <acr> foxbuntu: does the 1600 come in a pci-express version?
[01:34] <foxbuntu> acr, yeah, its called the HVR-1800
[01:34] <acr> mmm
[01:34] <acr> thanks
[01:37] <acr> thanks for all your help foxbuntu. I'll check out foxmediasystems when I get back from work
[01:37] <foxbuntu> acr, np[
[02:04] <BandC> if i'm gonna buy a hauppauge PVR-150 from ebay should i buy a box (including a remote)? is the remote worth it? it looks like just the card is cheaper.
[02:06] <BandC> or should i buy a remote separately?
[02:15] <makkonen> BandC - be aware that the pvr-150-mce doesn't have a hookup for a remote (but the regular pvr-150 does), so if you go that way, you can't go out and hook a remote up to it later.
[02:16] <BandC> thanks. which one i cant hookup a remote later?
[02:17] <makkonen> that said, I have a problem now because my old wintv card won't fit in my new low profile computer, so I can't use it for the remote. so I'm looking for another remote solution.
[02:17] <BandC> makkonen, you mean MCE comes with its own remote so i cant hookup another remote?
[02:18] <makkonen> the pvr-150-mce doesn't have a built in ir receiver. the pvr-150 does.
[02:18] <makkonen> if you've got an MCE remote, you can use that. if you've got both, you can use either. as far as I'm aware.
[02:19] <BandC> ok let me ask this then. the remote that comes with pvr-150, is it good or should i go with another remote?
[02:21] <makkonen> I was never too impressed by it. What I did was program a universal remote to work with the hauppauge receiver. But that was a huge can of worms, and though I was happy with it for a long time, I wouldn't recommend it.
[02:22] <makkonen> (then again, I wanted a remote with MANY buttons. for a reasonable person, the hauppauge one is probably fine.)
[02:23] <BandC> i see. ill probably get one with remote then. thanks for the help
[02:30] <makkonen> ok, here's my question: my new setup doesn't have any way too hook up a remote currently (IRMan won't fit since it has no serial ports, old wintv card with ir receiver won't fit since it's low profile).  B) It seems like there's a remote keyboard functionality in mythweb, but I can't figure out how to activate it... or find anything about it anywhere. Anyone know how to
[02:35] <kleewyck> Has anyone experienced the myth front end while playing recordings or live tv, stop responding to keyboard or Remote commands?
[02:36] <kleewyck> I just upgraded everything in the system to the latest 8.10 Mythbuntu and now if I fool around with the keyboard or the remote while watching a show sometimes the system just will no longer respond to keyboard commands. I have to restart GDM to get control back.
[02:42] <slyski> How can I get upsd or powerd working without the old inittab setup? Both need the Power Failed and Power Restored line that was in the old inittab file.
[04:14] <fuxxy> I'm running the mythbuntu frontend on my laptop, but the wireless does not start before the frontend, The setup won't connect to my backend, but if I log in normally it works normally.
[04:16] <slyski> I just read up on the sysvinit and upstart stuff on the ubuntu forums and i I might have to switch over to sysvint to get my UPS working.
[10:21] <oldman_> is there an easy way to prevent (e.g. /dev/input/event5) from being grabbed as an input device in Xorg?
[10:21] <oldman_> X is stealing my IR remote away from lirc
[10:21] <oldman_> i've added a udev rule to link it to /dev/input/remote
[10:21] <oldman_> but can't find a way to prevent that being hotplugged
[11:06] <Seeker`> i'm having problemsfinding channels
[11:06] <Seeker`> my set top freeview box will pcik up all the channels
[11:06] <Seeker`> my nova-t 500 will only find a few
[11:07] <Seeker`> using the "scan" command from the command line doesn't find anything
[13:57] <keyhack> I'm going to be buying my parts from Newegg, the last two remaining things I need is a wireless PCI card, and a IR receiver + remote, any suggestions?
[20:19] <Penbrock> Question: I just started playing around with Mythbuntu and love it. I only have a WinTV-GO Plus and want to upgrade/add another capture card.  Where do I set the spect ratio of my TV/monitor. I know I've set it before but can't find the setting now. Ta.
[22:34] <gregL> fatmonk: setup tvsetings playback 2nd screen...
[22:42] <fatmonk> gregL: not the aspect over-ride... that's something different. There is a setting somewhere for the aspect of the screen. At the moment anything that is 16:9 is being displayed letterboxed on my system. It wasn't earlier this evening so I think a setting has goine adrift somewhere... its the same with ripped DVDs, live TV and TV recordings...
[22:42] <tgm4883_laptop> when scanning OTA HD signals in the US, I just need to scan 8VSB right?  Or do I need to scan QAM also?
[22:43] <tgm4883_laptop>  us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB is what i'm using
[22:46] <jphillip> I don't think you do QAM for OTA, I'm not 100% positive though
[22:47] <tgm4883_laptop> I didn't think so either
[22:47] <tgm4883_laptop> I'm only getting OPB channels right now :(
[22:48] <tgm4883_laptop> i'm about halfway between 2 broadcasting cities and i'm picking up the OPB networks from both of them
[22:48] <tgm4883_laptop> OPB = PBS
[22:55] <tgm4883_laptop> anyone know what "WARNING: filter timeout pid 0x0000" means
[22:58] <jphillip> tgm4883_laptop this using an antenna?
[22:58] <tgm4883_laptop> yea
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> yay I'm getting fox and cbs now
[23:01] <tgm4883_laptop> still don't know what that error is though
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> xine sucks at changing dvb channels
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> or I found a bug
[23:03] <tgm4883_laptop> one or the other
[23:12] <fatmonk> having network issues.. if anyone has responded since my xx:42:44 post please resend.


[01:41] <mup> Bug #1887454 opened: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[01:47] <mup> Bug #1887454 changed: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[01:50] <mup> Bug #1887454 opened: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[01:53] <mup> Bug #1887454 changed: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[01:56] <mup> Bug #1887454 opened: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[01:59] <mup> Bug #1887454 changed: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[02:05] <mup> Bug #1887454 opened: ceph-radosgw/0*  are  blocked,Services not running that should be: <email address hidden> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887454>
[04:20] <mup> Bug #1878652 changed: "add user" button should be at the top of the page <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878652>
[04:23] <mup> Bug #1878652 opened: "add user" button should be at the top of the page <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878652>
[04:35] <mup> Bug #1878652 changed: "add user" button should be at the top of the page <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1878652>
[14:20] <mup> Bug #1887533 opened: Can't add machine when IPMI Address using custom port <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887533>
[16:11] <mup> Bug #1887550 opened: [feature] MAAS should allow the user to add/edit virsh storage pools via the UI for KVM Pods <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887550>
[17:54] <mup> Bug #1887558 opened: Multipath JBOD storage devices are not shown via /dev/mapper but each path as a single device. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1887558>


[06:39] <scary_guy> I remmber a story of them resurrecting an old system from the 80's because some bigwig just HAD to get some important informaiton off it.  So they finally got it working and he couldn't remember his damn password
[13:05] <_stink__> lulz
[13:12] <Zimdale> cmaloney: or the like http://www.mug.org/contact-us/ is pretty broken :(
[13:13] <dzho> missing a closing paren for the board member emeritus at http://www.mug.org/about/ too fwiw while we're here
[14:07] <cmaloney> Zimdale: Ugh
[14:08] <cmaloney> Actually that page doesn't exist (contact us)
[14:08] <cmaloney> Zimdale: Where did you find that link?
[14:09] <cmaloney> dzho: Fixed. Thanks!
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> morning
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> i think my cat just hit my amazon dash button
[14:10] <mrgoodcat> just got a notification that i ordered tide
[14:11] <dzho> sounds like a plausible threat model
[14:11] <cmaloney> Heh
[14:20] <Zimdale> from this page cmaloney http://www.mug.org/sponsor/
[14:20] <Zimdale> won't let me contact the board
[14:21] <cmaloney> Bah
[14:21] <cmaloney> OK
[14:21] <cmaloney> Will get that fixed
[14:21] <cmaloney> Check "About" for contact information
[14:21] <cmaloney> we moved things around so that's why that page is loose.
[14:22] <Zimdale> Will everyone be there tonight?
[14:23] <dzho> I won't.
[14:23] <dzho> ;-)
[14:27] <cmaloney> I'll be there
[14:41] <cmaloney> Zimdale: I re-created the "contact-us" page and moved our contact information there.
[14:46] <Zimdale> /O/
[14:47] <cmaloney> Thank you
[21:20] <scary_guy> @cmaloney ##diulive
[21:20] <scary_guy> I'll be on the stream in about two hours
[22:02] <cmaloney> Evening
[22:02] <cmaloney> I'm presenting tonight at MUG. Link at http://mug.org
[22:15] <greg-g> cmaloney: on what?
[22:23] <cmaloney> Scheme / Guile / Racket
[22:24] <cmaloney> greg-g: ^^
[22:30] <greg-g> oh nice
[22:30] <greg-g> Old coworker just posted this today: https://usesthis.com/interviews/christopher.allan.webber/  where he talks a lot about Scheme/Guile/GuixSD
[22:37] <cmaloney> Hah, <3 Christopher
[22:37] <cmaloney> He's in the #guile channel
[23:10] <cmaloney> He's also on Mastodon
[23:45] <_stink__> brousch: i am seeing your stuff from a few years ago about installing kivy on ubuntu 14.04.  any newer advice?
[23:46] <_stink__> maybe https://github.com/kivy/kivy/issues/2209#issuecomment-121916474 is a good plan
[23:47] <brousch> I think the doc page is still good
[23:48] <brousch> Although I really haven't used Linux for 1.5 years
[23:49] <brousch> Screw pygame
[23:51] <_stink__> ah ok, i see more details here now
[23:51] <_stink__> the ppa is no good for 14.04 ergo my confusion
[23:51] <_stink__> thanks
[23:56] <cmaloney> brousch: Them's fighting words
[23:57] <cmaloney> Pygame is still relevant.
[23:57] <_stink__> round one
[23:57] <_stink__> FIGHT
[23:57] <cmaloney>  /lart brousch


[03:10] <infinity> cjwatson: I really want to accept this livecd-rootfs, but I'm scared.
[03:10] <infinity> cjwatson: Did you do before and after test builds and compare package lists and (more importantly, IMO), apt-auto-install states?
[11:30] <cjwatson> infinity: I compared package lists and they looked broadly reasonable.  I put a requirement to check before-and-after auto-install states in the bug's test case.
[11:35] <cjwatson> infinity: As I said in the bug report, if I had a less invasive idea which would actually work then I'd use it :-/
[15:44] <doko> cjwatson, infinity: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20121221/+build/4096089
[15:45] <doko> INFO Upload was rejected:
[15:45] <doko> INFO 	Component "non-free" is not allowed in raring
[15:45] <doko> ?
[18:30] <doko> cjwatson, infinity: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/128286296/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.armhf-cross-toolchain-base_1.97_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:31] <doko> the package builds fine on amd64
[18:32] <doko> shouldn't incompatible libraries just be skipped instead? I assume on amd64 it is done because the host ist 64bit, and the target is 32bit
[19:06] <infinity> doko: Have you noticed all the hung builds that have been killed in the gcc-4.8 rebuild test?
[19:06] <infinity> doko: Sometimes cc1plus hanging, sometimes perl hanging, but they were all in the gcc-4.8 rebuild, none in the normal one.  Maybe a bug in libgcc1 or something?
[19:07] <doko> infinity, example?
[19:10] <infinity> doko: (There's an example hung on komainu right now, if you want to try to get some debugging info from webops or something, though that might be tough on a weekend)
[19:10] <infinity> doko: One on lamiak too.  Same package, so that might actually be reproducible.
[19:10] <infinity> doko: Oh, wait.  pdl might be hanging for other reasons, it might not be an example of what I was talking about. :/
[19:12] <infinity> doko: Well, like I said, those two ongoing pdl builds.  But they might be something else, I can't remember if they also failed in the normal test rebuild.
[19:12] <infinity> Hrm, no, they didn't.
[19:12] <infinity> So, yeah.  Those.
[19:17] <infinity> doko: There were a fair few of them, though.  Pretty much any x86 build log in the rebuild with "Session terminated, terminating shell... ...terminated." in it, and then evidence of someone forcibly killing a hung process is probably the same issue, whatever the issue is.
[19:17] <doko> infinity, any idea about the ldd issue?
[19:18] <infinity> doko: (It's not x86-specific, mind you, we saw it on ARM too, but timeouts can happen there for other reasons too)
[19:18] <infinity> doko: I'm looking at the cross/shlibs thing right now, it piqued my curiosity.
[19:18] <infinity> doko: I'm also looking at a glibc testsuite regression that only happens on Ubuntu, not Debian.  Haven't bisected the cause yet, but it worries me a bit. :/
[19:29] <infinity> doko: Yeah, the pdl testsuite looks like a good reproducer for the hang.  At least, I can't reproduce it on plain raring, and it's currently hung on two buildds with gcc-4.8


  Happy Wednesday, and happy Volunteer Recognition Day! 😃
[09:20] <knightwise> You could lock her in place by partialy closing the sunroof
[09:55] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsoqRvYqWDg just for you :)
[10:02] <JamesTait> davmor2, 👍
[12:43] <davmor2> knightwise: so how did you get on with your all ubuntu experiment
[13:01] <diddledan> https://www.petri.com/eu-formally-charges-google-antitrust-violations
[13:02] <davmor2> diddledan: yeah I'm sure it is just Europes way to make more money, Fine MS for browser and now Google too :)
[13:03] <zmoylan-pi> god forbid they make google obey the rules
[13:03] <zmoylan-pi> even if the rules can seem silly
[13:03] <knightwise> davmor2: pretty good. The phone was a little frustrating since I had some issuew with battery life
[13:03] <knightwise> but it got stuff done
[13:04] <knightwise> as for the desktop : Still workin on Ubuntu :) At work ! ! !
[13:37] <diddledan> I watched the new start warts last night. I like how they had both generations together in the same film for the old guard to hand-off to the new. Although I can't figure out Whoopie Goldburg's Gainan being on the ship where kirk gets sucked into the nexus
[13:38] <zmoylan-pi> it was the tardis appearing in the background that confused me...
[13:39] <zmoylan-pi> and don't get me started on bowmans pod from 2001 been in the prequel... http://www.eeggs.com/items/1935.html
[13:40] <knightwise> Sshhttaaaap !  please stop mixing the universes
[13:40] <knightwise> my geek ocd is going haywire
[13:40] <knightwise> holy crap its true !
[13:40] <knightwise> Thats bowmans pod !
[13:41] <diddledan> knightwise: I can't believe they killed...
[13:41] <zmoylan-pi> my god it's full of star wars...
[13:42] <diddledan> Kenny. you bar stewards
[13:42] <zmoylan-pi> 1 tshirt to unite them all... http://acddistribution.blogspot.ie/2015/06/new-from-offworld-designs-omg-its-r2d2.html
[13:42] <diddledan> 1 tshirt to bind them
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> 1 tshirt to flush out the ocd...
[13:43] <diddledan> you have to watch out for people randomly starting to twitch as you approach
[13:54] <diddledan> !isitoutyet
[13:54] <lubotu3`> No, it's not out yet!
[14:22] <DJones> Aww, how sad,Victoria Wood has passed away from cancer
[14:22] <diddledan> ffs
[14:22] <diddledan> 2016 shtapit!
[14:22] <diddledan> 2016 has been a bad year for my heroes
[14:23] <DJones> Yep, couldn't agree more with that
[14:24] <DJones> She was there through my childhood into becoming an adult.  Same eith the young ones
[14:37] <davmor2> diddledan: let this be a lesson to you to stop having hero's
[14:38] <davmor2> But man that sucks
[14:39] <davmor2> Victoria Wood was one of my favourite comedy writers she always just did enough to raise a smile without going too far
[14:41] <DJones> davmor2: Have to agree with that, she could make you laugh just by standing/sitting in front of you whithout opening her mouth
[14:42] <DJones> All of the audience with victoria wood shows have been amazing
[14:42] <bashrc> there seems to have been a cull of celebs this year
[14:42] <bashrc> was never a big VW fan, but vaguely remember some sketch of hers involving a tent
[14:43] <DJones> bashrc: Yep, there's a supergroup of musicians up there now
[14:43] <DJones> Travelling willbury's will have nothing on them if they release an album
[14:44] <foobarry> VW wrote a song that morrissey ripped off for the smiths
[14:44] <bashrc> heh
[14:52] <davmor2> Victoria Woods and Les Dawson are the two comedians I loved behind a piano especially when they went of key for Les or off song for Victoria :D
[15:04] <diplo> zmoylan-pi: I want that tshirt!
[15:04] <diplo> Bah hadn't noticed the time :D
[15:42] <sebsebseb> popey: ping
[16:01] <popey> sebsebseb: pong
[16:02] <sebsebseb> popey: so I got the cheaper Ubuntu tablet
[16:02] <sebsebseb> today
[16:02] <sebsebseb> ,but yep
[16:02] <sebsebseb> not working so well without a bluetooth mouse nad keyboard
[16:02] <sebsebseb> I wonder if O2G will work I guess not
[16:03] <sebsebseb> popey: when setting up it would let me put in the passcode using the touch screen keyboard, but after set up it never comes up except for unlocking.  really no way to just have the touch screen keyboard like the phone or there is but a ha ack?
[16:03] <sebsebseb> seems if I choose on a bluetooth keyboard and mouse on amazon in the next two hours and order it
[16:03] <sebsebseb> I should even get by tommorwo if I do one day delivery on check out as well
[16:07] <bashrc> are ubuntu tablets available?
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bashrc: indeed
[16:07] <sebsebseb> bashrc: now the pre order is over as well
[16:08] <sebsebseb> so can buy without the case and screen protecter if youw ant
[16:08] <sebsebseb> bashrc: I pre ordered this one though
[16:08] <sebsebseb> that one
[16:08] <sebsebseb> that one, using lap top since can't type on the tablet
[16:08] <bashrc> ah
[16:08] <sebsebseb> since no blueetouth mouse nad keyboard as I was aying, maybe  the O2G  device will work for a usb mouse and keyboard though, not tried that yet
[16:08] <sebsebseb> bashrc: yeah that's annoying actsaully why does it require a blueetooth keyboard and mouse or apaprnatly I mean I knew that, I read lots of stuff saying that ,but now I got one, and I am thinking why
[16:09] <sebsebseb> I was in Brussels even where they said on the talks for the tablet when I asked that yeah would need blue tooth
[16:09] <sebsebseb> but it should work with a touch screen keyboard most of the time to really, or you would think so, but nope it seems
[16:09] <bashrc> why does a tablet need a separate keyboard?
[16:10] <sebsebseb> exactly
[16:10] <sebsebseb> touch sreen keyboard only came up to put in the wireless password,  and  it comes up also to unlock the tablet  but that's it, not seen it otherwise
[16:10] <sebsebseb> might be a way to hack it to bring it up all the time like the phone though
[16:10] <popey> sebsebseb: might want to ask in #ubuntu-touch
[16:10] <popey> i dont even have one
[16:10] <sebsebseb> popey: yeah I know you don't
[16:11] <sebsebseb> but thought you might have known
[16:13] <bashrc> looks ok
[16:15] <sebsebseb> bashrc: I found out  what it was in touch
[16:15] <sebsebseb> comes up for the native apps
[16:15] <sebsebseb> but not things like gedit firefox etc
[16:15] <zmoylan-pi> a tshirt like diplo is timeless... :-)
[16:15] <sebsebseb> I guess that's where indeed need the bluetooth keyboard
[16:16] <bashrc> I think when you connect a keyboard it becomes a desktop OS
[16:16] <bashrc> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/02/bq-aquaris-m10-ubuntu-tablet-announced-specs
[16:16] <sebsebseb> bashrc: yeah that's the idea I think
[16:16] <bashrc> cool
[16:17] <sebsebseb> I guess that's why gedit firefox etc didn't work as I was saying
[16:17] <sebsebseb> need bluetooth for that
[16:17] <sebsebseb> someone said use the native apps in touch though, and yep that brings up the touch keyboard
[17:22] <daftykins> cor, early documentary footage found in colour of a young David Attenborough
[17:23] <daftykins> that sounds fun
[17:31] <zmoylan-pi> when mammoths stomped across europe... ;-)
[17:32] <daftykins> they seem to be doing so much with him it's like he hasn't passed away when they want him too, so they have to keep putting out memorium stuff as specials!
[17:32] <daftykins> *to
[17:32] <zmoylan-pi> next up the feeding frenzy of the great white... without a cage... :-P
[17:35] <zmoylan-pi> or they could do the old seal costume with the polar bears trick... http://www.gifbin.com/982508
[17:35] <daftykins> "kissed by a rose on a grave"
[17:35] <daftykins> oh wrong Seal
[17:37] <davmor2> daftykins: Kissed by a rose on the grey
[17:38] <daftykins> is that how it goes?
[18:47] <Bob_8732>  quebert
[21:11]  * zmoylan-pi starts singing tomorrow... http://betanews.com/2016/04/20/canonical-ubuntu-linux-16-04-lts/
[21:16] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: stop you're making it rain
[21:18] <pavlushka> !isitoutyet
[21:18] <lubotu3`> No, it's not out yet!
[21:21] <daftykins> and so it begins


[01:50] <hads> Oh. Leaky house.
[01:56] <ibeardslee> your house?
[02:19] <hads> Yeah
[02:19] <hads> I hear yours too.
[02:22] <ibeardslee> yup .. worst part is is that it is not a 'Leaky Home'
[02:23] <ajmitch> just a home that leaks?
[02:24] <ibeardslee> same symptoms, just too old
[02:24] <hads> We aren't too bad. We have a concrete block retaining wall as part of the basement level. Seems it wasn't sealed properly and it's leaking.
[02:25] <hads> We have had 300mm of rain in the last week so I guess if it was ever to leak now is the time.
[02:26] <ibeardslee> I have a concrete wall doing the same thing in my garage
[02:28] <ajmitch> I'm sure it's nothing compared to the house I used to live in when I was at school - was around 100 years old & the central hallways was covred in buckets or anything that could hold water whenever it rained
[02:30] <ajmitch> of course that place got flattened by a digger & a new house built on the site
[02:32] <hads> It would have been nice if this wall leaked a few months ago when I lined out that wall.
[02:32] <ibeardslee> oh bugger
[02:32] <ajmitch> that is a pain
[02:33] <hads> Indeed. Been in the house for 3 years and /now/ it decides to leak.
[04:57] <hads> http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/news/7436883/Surface-flooding-in-Timaru
[04:58] <ajmitch> that looks a bit damp
[04:59] <hads> QUite
[10:07] <ajmitch> hads: monitor sure is shiny, it'll take some getting used to this much screen space :)
[10:07] <ajmitch> running nicely at 2560x1440 with nvidia drivers
[10:19] <hads> ajmitch: Quite spacious isn't it.
[10:19] <hads> Did you have to add the IgnoreEDID thing?
[10:25] <ajmitch> yes
[10:26] <ajmitch> just added it in the Device section, that one line seemed to be enough
[10:26] <hads> Yeah same. Happy with it so far?
[10:26] <ajmitch> only problem I have is the length of the DVI cable, it seems a little too short
[10:27] <hads> You got a DVI cable? My box didn't have one.
[10:27] <ajmitch> colour is slightly off at the bottom of the screen, but it's only really noticeable on all-white
[10:27] <ajmitch> odd, I got a dual-link cable in the box
[10:27] <hads> Luckily I had one here.
[10:27] <hads> I haven't noticed a color issue on mine yet.
[10:28] <ajmitch> of course today would be the day my laptop power adapter finally stops working
[10:28] <ajmitch> so now the laptop battery is flat
[10:28] <hads> Doh.
[10:28] <ajmitch> from what I've read it's not uncommon with these HP adapters
[10:30] <ajmitch> I should be able to charge it at work, but the battery lasts < 1 hour now. good thing I've got a new laptop on its way
[19:44] <chilts> morning
[20:08] <Pikiora> Morning :)
[20:27] <Atamira> morning
[20:32] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:34] <ajmitch> morning
[20:46] <ibeardslee> interesting .. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NTk
[21:13] <chilts> mwhudson: still at BizDojo? has their pricing come down yet?
[21:14] <mwhudson> morning
[21:14] <mwhudson> chilts: yes and i think yes
[21:14] <mwhudson> well, pricing for full time came down recently
[21:14] <mwhudson> not sure what the lower rates are now
[21:15]  * chilts will look
[21:15] <chilts> thanks
[21:15] <chilts> are there more people there these days? I think it was about 6-10 people when I saw you in there last year sometime
[21:16] <mwhudson> yeah, it's a bit busier now
[21:17] <mwhudson> which is nice
[21:27] <chilts> looks like $138/week in Wgtn


[12:30] <mparillo> Plasma 5.22 continuing to land in II (without the Beta PPA), and at least some of the 21.04.2 KDE Applications.
[12:33] <mparillo> Konversation in Kubuntu is now versioned along with the KDE apps.
[14:54] <RikMills> mparillo: it is all uploaded to impish now. some of it will likely be stuck in proposed for a bit as arm64 autopkgtests are severly backlogged
[18:48] <RikMills> kopying 5.22 to backports
[20:52] <valorie> RikMills: \o/
[20:52] <RikMills> valorie: https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1403432592477671424
[20:53] <valorie> rt'd
[20:53] <valorie> thank you!
[20:53] <RikMills> I normally might hesitate to put the .0 release in backports, but I have cherry picked some fixes from the .1 release coming on Tuesday
[20:54] <RikMills> plus I think we need to signal we are back on the 'backports train'
[20:54] <RikMills> now that Qt versions are not blocking us
[21:02] <valorie> that's wonderful


[00:06] <sam113101> hi guys
[00:06] <ScottD> yo
[00:06] <sam113101> I found a bug in the dash, I would like to fix it, am I in the right channel?
[00:07] <ScottD> Beats me.  I just wandered in here the other day.
[00:07] <sam113101> there are so many channels, ubuntu-devel, ubuntu-app-devel, ubuntu-desktop, etc.
[01:05] <Nimble> marlinc, what does that python script do exactly?
[04:45] <rigved> sam113101: which version of ubuntu did you find the bug in?
[07:27] <Aulin> Hi
[07:27] <marlinc> Well Nimble (was I was a sleep) that Python script talks to Unity to add a syncmenu entry
[07:27] <Nimble> is syncmenu the menu with the cloud icon?
[07:27] <Aulin> *feeling ignored*
[07:28] <marlinc> Yep
[07:28] <marlinc> Hello Aulin :p
[07:28] <Aulin> Hi
[07:28] <Nimble> is the API at all similar to the messaging menu?
[07:29] <marlinc> I've got idea. I just ripped some of the code of Ubuntu One because I coudn't find any nice documentation
[07:29] <marlinc> I've got no idea. I just ripped some of the code of Ubuntu One because I coudn't find any nice documentation
[07:30] <Nimble> ah
[07:31] <Nimble> yeah, I was trying to figure out how to use the messaging menu
[07:31] <Nimble> the code in the docs doesn't show anything
[07:31] <Nimble> I guess I should go over the code in pidgin-indicate or something
[07:32] <marlinc> Well I guess. Because I don't really know how the syncmenu implementation works I also don't know if I implemented it in the right way
[07:33] <marlinc> So I'm looking for some input from people who do know how works because it appears that are not many people
[07:35] <Aulin> Im a real programming n00b and scryptkiddie :-) i have some experiens with java & svg , is it easy to programm apps for ubuntu (touch)?
[07:36] <Nimble> very
[07:36] <Nimble> if you know javascript, QML is easy to learn
[07:37] <Nimble> there's a guide on the ubuntu site for getting started, it's easy to follow
[07:37] <Aulin> I programed with eclipse no idea what type of java
[07:37] <Nimble> well, java and javascript are two different things
[07:38] <Aulin> Where is see the differnet?
[07:38] <Aulin> Between java and javascrypt
[07:38] <marlinc> They are two entirely different languages
[07:40] <Aulin> How i can se3 the different
[07:41] <Aulin> And i programmed a little with light wite game engine on eclipse,
[07:41] <marlinc> http://stackoverflow.com/a/245068
[07:42] <Aulin> @marlinc thaks, google is my friend, i know :-)
[07:43] <marlinc> But okay developing applications for Ubuntu is possible in all kinds of languages
[07:44] <marlinc> You make applications in C, C++, Java, Python, C#, JavaScript well almost any language
[07:44] <marlinc> Personally I would recommend a language you're familiar with. For me that would be Java
[07:44] <Nimble> yeah, but Aulin was interested in ubuntu touch
[07:45] <marlinc> Ah well then it would JavaScript
[07:45] <Nimble> I know you can also do it in C++
[07:45] <marlinc> Yea I hope it will be possible to run Java on Ubuntu Touch
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[07:46] <marlinc> Morning!
[07:46] <Nimble> well, if openjdk is built for arm
[07:46] <Nimble> you can just install it using apt-get
[07:47] <marlinc> Yea I hope its possible to set it as a dependency
[07:47] <marlinc> Then I can try to make th Ubuntu version available for Ubuntu Touch
[07:47] <Nimble> the current build of ubuntu touch puts my phone into a bootloop so I can't tell you if it's there
[07:47] <Nimble> L)
[07:47] <Nimble> :) *
[07:48] <marlinc> The're not many applications that use the syncmenu right? Its disappointing because I think that syncmenu is a strength of Ubuntu
[07:48] <marlinc> As far as I know there's no single distribution that has something like thay
[07:48] <marlinc> That*
[07:50] <Nimble> I really like the entire menu system in the top right
[07:50] <Nimble> it's a big part of the reason I use unity
[07:50] <marlinc> Indeed
[07:50] <Nimble> I just wish the documentation was up to date
[07:50] <Aulin> Byeblook on ubuntu website
[07:50] <marlinc> Yep
[07:58] <gusch> nerochiaro: can you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/camera-app/camera-no-zoom-no-bar/+merge/176602
[08:15] <marlinc> https://plus.google.com/102031545913933941769/posts/7rE4eq5GBiW
[08:19] <Nimble> hope you find your answer
[08:30] <marlinc> When I click on XChat in the messaging it opens a new XChat instance
[08:30] <marlinc> Ah there's an issue for that :)
[08:30] <Nimble> yeah
[08:30] <Nimble> oh, ok
[08:30] <seb128_> marlinc, that's because xchat is not a single instance program,it should be fixed
[08:30] <marlinc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xchat-indicator/+bug/1122853
[08:30] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1122853 in xchat-indicator (Ubuntu) "Clicking the xchat indicator starts a new instance" [Medium,Confirmed]
[08:31] <marlinc> Ah mm
[08:31] <seb128_> it works fine with other programs
[08:31] <Nimble> isn't xchat no longer maintained, anyway?
[08:31] <seb128_> e.g if you call piding a second time it focus the running one, doesn't start a new instance
[08:31] <gusch> oSoMoN: can you review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/camera-app/camera-no-zoom-no-bar/+merge/176602
[08:32] <Nimble> I know hexchat is in the repos but it doesn't have an indicator plugin
[08:34] <oSoMoN> gusch: sure
[08:35] <gusch> oSoMoN: thx
[08:49] <oSoMoN> gusch: approved
[08:49] <gusch> oSoMoN: thx
[09:05] <nik90> renato: Can you help me convert animationContainer to a Flickable? I am getting stuck using a Flickable.
[09:11] <nerochiaro> gusch: sorry, missed that
[09:12] <gusch> nerochiaro: no worries - oSoMoN approved :)
[09:12] <nerochiaro> gusch: yeah, saw that
[09:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: speaking of which, there are 3 pendings MRs of mine at https://code.launchpad.net/notes-app/+activereviews, for your reviewing pleasure
[09:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i was meaning to take care of them today
[09:15] <oSoMoN> cool
[09:20] <JamesTait> Good morning all, happy Kitchen Debate Day! :-D
[09:23] <PaoloRotolo> Good morning!
[09:26] <nik90> PaoloRotolo: hi
[09:26] <PaoloRotolo> Hi nik90 :)
[09:42] <mezenok_den> Hello
[09:42] <mezenok_den> can anyone help with adding new service to the online-accounts ?
[09:52] <AskUbuntu> Example tab in ubuntu sdk opens blank windows | http://askubuntu.com/q/323789
[10:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: looking at your MRs, is there any test for this one ? https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/notes-app/focus-fixes/+merge/174745
[10:23] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also is omer out today ?
[10:24] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: no there’s no test, it’s only fixing a plain programming mistake
[10:26] <zeokila> Hey guys, how can I install a C++ plugin to an app? When I try to start it it tell me file:///directory/reader.qml:3 module "reader.plugin" is not installed
[10:26] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: but does it make things work that weren't working before ?
[10:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: I don’t know, but it fixes the code path as it was originally intended; whether that code path is used at all is beyond my investigation
[10:34] <mezenok_den> nerochiaro: hi, can you help to find information on how to make my own libaccount-plugin ?
[10:34] <mezenok_den> for new service
[10:35] <mezenok_den> nerochiaro: I just can not find any docs about this question.
[10:36] <mezenok_den> People, help me to find some docs about making my onw libaccount-plugin.
[10:44] <nerochiaro> mezenok_den: i think the right person to ask is kenvandine, but i haven't seem him around today
[10:45] <nerochiaro> mezenok_den: also maybe take the source of an existing plugin and start from there ?
[10:45] <mezenok_den> nerochiaro: thank you for help :) I think I will dig into the source codes of the other's plugins and I'll try to do my stuff :)
[10:45] <mezenok_den> nerochiaro: really thx :)
[10:46] <nerochiaro> mezenok_den: you're welcome
[11:09] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: if I download the packages build by jenkins and install them on the phone for this MR; https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/notes-app/provider-cleanup/+merge/174143 then run the tests with phablet-test-run notes-app, 2 of them fail. if i repeat with the packages installed by  phablet-test-run -p notes-app-autopilot notes-app then everything works
[11:10] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: how do they fail? can you paste the output of the failures?
[11:12] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: it's the slide to delete that seem to be failing (trying twice just to be sure): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5907228/
[11:12] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: so nothing to do with the image provider
[11:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: note that once you have installed notes-app-autopilot once on the device, passing "-p notes-app-autopilot" to phablet-test-run won’t do anything
[11:13] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: so what you’re seeing is a random failure
[11:13] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: beautiful
[11:13] <oSoMoN> (which of course needs to be investigated)
[11:15] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: how would you go about doing that '
[11:17] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: well first you’d need to try and reproduce the issue when running the test suite, and observe what’s really happening on the device, as the failure logs don’t give many clues
[11:20] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: can that tool run one single test ?
[11:21] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: nevermind, it can
[11:25] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: also your previous statement that passing -p after you have notes-app-autopilot alreadt installed won't do anything doesn't seem to be true. in my case it downgrades the package to the current archive version
[11:26] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok
[11:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: in any case, the cause of the random failure seems to be that the note gets expanded when i install the pacakges from jenkins and doesn't get expanded (and thus can be deleted) with the normal packages. which is strange as that code shouldn't have been touched
[11:27] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: then you need to compare packages built from the current trunk and those built by jenkins
[11:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i also need to update the phone, i'm on yesterday's stuff, in case it makes a difference
[11:27] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: it might
[11:27] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: i don't think so though
[12:08] <renato> nik90, ping
[12:09] <nik90> renato: pong
[12:09] <renato> nik90, did you get the flickable working?
[12:09] <nik90> renato: I wanted to replace AnimationContainer with a flickable for several reasons. First being it recommended by florian and the second it is causing some issues with qml loader
[12:10] <nik90> renato: no and the problem is because I have no experience using a flickable
[12:13] <renato> nik90, I will take a look
[12:13] <nik90> renato: I keep getting errors such as "binding loop with contentHeight". I did contentHeight: childrenRect.height, but some of the children elements have no height specified
[12:13] <nik90> because I cannot be precise about their height now
[12:21] <renato> nik90, can I see your code?
[12:21] <nik90> renato: let me upload. It is a mess since I was experimenting different stuff to get it working
[12:25] <nik90> renato: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/flickable-stopwatch-implementation
[12:31] <m-b-o> nik90: I have a solution, interested?
[12:35] <nik90> m-b-o: Hi. I read your g+ post.
[12:35] <nik90> m-b-o: I tried doing it, however was unsure about one part. How to snap to a specific position?
[12:36] <nik90> Right now, it snaps to the listView header. However If I insert all the elements inside a rectangle, then the flickable will have to snap to some point in the rectangle rather than some qml element
[12:36] <m-b-o> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~martin-borho/ubuntu-clock-app/stopwatch-flickable/revision/156
[12:37] <m-b-o> nik90: which point exactly?
[12:37] <nik90> In the stopwatch page, it should snap midway to the analog stopwatch face.
[12:38] <nik90> so it will look like the analog stopwatch face is half hidden and half visible
[12:43] <m-b-o> nik90: when srollling to the rounds for example?
[12:44] <nik90> m-b-o: yeah
[12:46] <nik90> m-b-o: if you look at the current behavior of the clock tab, you will know what i mean
[12:48] <m-b-o> nik90: I see
[12:51] <renato> nik90, the height of the background page rectangle should be a value that when scrolling to the end of it, the stopwatch face is positioned in the correct position
[12:51] <renato> then you do not need to take care of which position you need to scroll
[12:51] <renato> just scroll to the end
[12:54] <nik90> renato: okay
[12:55] <nik90> renato: both m-b-o and kaziwaseef use a rectangle
[12:55] <nik90> kaziwaseef's branch can be found at https://code.launchpad.net/~kaziwaseef/ubuntu-clock-app/flickable-added
[12:56] <nik90> where he also uses a item to store the flickable in it
[12:58] <renato> nik90, I would say keep the AnimationContainer in the pages and change it to be a flickable component
[12:59] <nik90> renato: yes that would be the best case since all pages use animationcontainer
[13:00] <renato> make sure that all pages have the correct height in that way when moving to the bottom it will be positioned in the correct position
[13:00] <nik90> renato: Since kaziwaseef is working as an external contributor, let me just fix the stopwatch page alone, I can then implement his code logic into the animation container
[13:01] <nik90> renato: all the pages have the same qml element sizes. So that should be easy to achieve
[13:02] <renato> nik90, ok,
[13:03] <renato> nik90, about the kaziwaseef my only concern is that I think that we do not need the Item element outside the flickable component
[13:06] <nik90> renato: I tried modifying kaziwaseef's branch and removed the item. However when I anchors the flickable to fill the parent, the tab header started to hide when scrolling up. Any way to prevent that?
[13:25] <Mihir> anybody to review this bug ?https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1203455
[13:25] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1203455 in Ubuntu Calculator App "Result is not able to use with new operands " [Undecided,New]
[13:31] <netcurli> Mihir: isn't this a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1179422
[13:31] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1179422 in Ubuntu Calculator App "[Calculator app] Can't add to existing equation once equals is entered" [Undecided,In progress]
[13:31] <netcurli> ?
[13:36] <kaziwaseef> Hi. The item containing the flickable was there to stop the tab header from hiding...
[13:38] <renato> kaziwaseef, nik90, set the page property "flickable" to null
[13:40] <kaziwaseef> I think the best thing to do is change the code of AnimationContainer. Please wait. Let me try.
[13:41] <nik90> kaziwaseef: yeah best to adapt AnimationContainer into a Flickable.
[13:41] <nik90> renato: thnx that worked.
[13:46] <gusch> oSoMoN: just an idea: in HistoryDomainListModel you only emit dataChanged() but not for example rowsMoved()
[13:47] <oSoMoN> gusch: because HistoryDomainListModel is always kept sorted alphabetically, so rows are never moved, some may be inserted, and some removed
[13:50] <gusch> oSoMoN: I would have guessed, that sort() is called when a new row is added - but even calling it manually afterwards does not sort it
[13:50] <gusch> oSoMoN: I see no obvious bug
[13:51] <oSoMoN> me neither, and that’s the problem :/
[13:51] <gusch> oSoMoN: I would really need to dig really deep to see what's going on
[13:51] <oSoMoN> gusch: yeah, if you get a chance at some point to dig deeper, that would be much appreciated, but I understand that you have other priorities
[13:59] <gusch> oSoMoN: for the second data, I don't get the rowsInserted() signal in HistoryDomainListChronologicalModel
[14:08] <nerochiaro> om26er: hi, after the meeting can we have a quick talk about some autopilot tests on the device that are failing and i'm not sure why. also discuss a merge that you did some time ago that has some chnges to tests that i don't exactly understand
[14:21] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: will you get a chance to review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/cleanup-public-plugin/+merge/175855 some time today?
[14:24] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: yes, but cross your fingers for the autopilot tests, i seem to have a terrible luck with them today
[14:24] <gusch> oSoMoN: I wonder, why calling sort() does not sort the model, but calling invalidate() does
[14:24] <nerochiaro> om26er: ping
[14:25] <oSoMoN> gusch: where exactly are you calling it?
[14:25] <om26er> nerochiaro, sorry, hey!
[14:25] <gusch> oSoMoN: in the test, where you have the model->invalidate();
[14:26] <nerochiaro> om26er: hi, can you confirm that running the autopilot tests on the device from the packages generated by jenkins on this MR, you get 2 failures ? https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/cleanup-public-plugin/+merge/175855
[14:26] <gusch> oSoMoN: invalidate accesses the data() function (there is logging), but sort() does not
[14:26] <nerochiaro> om26er: sorry, wrong branch
[14:26] <om26er> :p
[14:26] <nerochiaro> om26er: i meant https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/notes-app/provider-cleanup/+merge/174143
[14:26] <oSoMoN> gusch: yeah, the internals of the QSortFilterProxyModel are still a bit of a mistery to me
[14:28] <om26er> nerochiaro, on it
[14:28] <nerochiaro> om26er: thanks
[14:35] <boiko> oSoMoN: gusch: so, from what I understood it looks like the rows moving in the original model is not being propagated to all levels of proxies
[14:36] <oSoMoN> boiko: yeah, something like that, until invalidate() is called on the sort model
[14:36] <boiko> oSoMoN: gusch: wait, no, there is no row moving going on here, sorry
[14:37] <boiko> oSoMoN: gusch: I'll go for lunch and continue after I'm back
[14:37] <oSoMoN> boiko: sure, but don’t let my problem take all your time, you probably have other priorities to tend to
[14:38] <om26er> nerochiaro, I merged trunk and had 1 failure with that branch
[14:38] <om26er> nerochiaro, notes_app.tests.test_images.TestImageSmallHigh.test_no_crash
[14:38] <om26er> now when I run it individually it passes as well
[14:39] <gusch> oSoMoN: why the hell is sort() doing like nothing?!?
[14:39] <om26er> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5907792/
[14:40] <nerochiaro> om26er: so, different results than me, i had 2 tests failing and they were different ones. and they fail even if run separately. any idea what might be going on ?
[14:40] <nerochiaro> om26er: do you know what's going on from line 23 onwards ?
[14:41] <om26er> nerochiaro, merge trunk first
[14:41] <om26er> can you show me the logs
[14:41] <nerochiaro> om26er: i used the packages from jenkins, didn't build them myself
[14:41] <nerochiaro> om26er: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5907228/
[14:41] <om26er> nerochiaro, which device ?
[14:42] <nerochiaro> om26er: phone
[14:42] <om26er> nerochiaro, I fixed those tests recently for touch. so I think you really need my package, should I email you ?
[14:43] <nerochiaro> om26er: ok. but also oSoMoN should merge trunk into these branches I think. right oSoMoN ?
[14:44] <om26er> sent
[14:45] <gusch> oSoMoN: I found this one http://qt-project.org/wiki/Model_Test - maybe you want to tes the model implementation(s)
[14:47] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: merge trunk where?
[14:47] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: in the branch
[14:48] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: duh, what branch man?
[14:48] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: sorry, we were talking about the ones you submitted on notes-app for review
[14:48] <mezenok_den> nerochiaro: you said I can ask kenvandine about my thoughts... is he usually anwering fast?
[14:49] <mezenok_den> I have asked him and waiting... :)
[14:49] <nerochiaro> mezenok_den: not always
[14:49] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: ok, will do in a moment
[14:53] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro: done, for all three branches
[15:04] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok - sort() does not work, as it is aborted when dynamicSortFilter is true (setting it to false, fixes the issue)
[15:05] <oSoMoN> gusch: ok, good to know
[15:10] <nerochiaro> om26er: also do you have any idea why tests fail on this MR ? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/inverse-mouse-area-move-allowed-on-clicks/+merge/176362
[15:19] <gusch> oSoMoN: https://pastebin.canonical.com/94971/ the entry for the first "getting data for domain" is wrong
[15:20] <gusch> oSoMoN: it shows the data for the ubtuntu domain, but it should be the example domain
[15:21] <gusch> oSoMoN: so for whatever reason, HistoryDomainListModel::data() uses the wrong data (I guess for the sorting)
[15:23] <oSoMoN> gusch: yeah, I had arrived at this conclusion too, but I have no clue whatsoever why the data returned is wrong
[15:35] <Laney> hmmmmmmm
[15:35] <Laney> seb128: how have you solved "stuff scrolls over other stuff" when using Flickables?
[15:35] <seb128> Laney, clip: true
[15:36] <Laney> aha
[15:37] <Laney> yes, that works. great!
[15:37] <seb128> ;-)
[15:37] <Laney> quite happy with this bit of UI
[15:37]  * Laney makes the list sorted
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, what bit is that? style datetime?
[15:39] <seb128> Laney, btw I reviewed your mp, I've some nitpick (just added one)
[15:39] <Laney> nah the listmodel stuff
[15:39] <Laney> yes
[15:39] <Laney> I'm fixing some of those
[15:39] <Laney> and making it sorted
[15:40] <seb128> style->still
[15:41] <Laney> how can I focus something on entry?
[15:42] <seb128> Laney, focus: true is supposed to work if you only have one widget doing it
[15:43] <Laney> let me try that
[15:43] <seb128> Laney, I'm just fighting with that for another panel, don't spend time on it ... I will let you know when I figure it out
[15:43] <kenvandine> Laney, if that doesn't work, you might need to set someid.focus = true in a Component.onCompleted
[15:43] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know what's needed?
[15:43] <kenvandine> not really
[15:44] <kenvandine> i had to do that to focus my listview for keyboard nav
[15:44] <kenvandine> focus: true on the ListView didn't do it
[15:44] <Laney> no, neither work
[15:44] <kenvandine> i had to do it onCompleted
[15:44] <kenvandine> :/
[15:44] <Laney> this is on a TextField
[15:45] <seb128> Laney, doing what Ken said makes it "looking focussed", but it doesn't take keyboard input :/
[15:45] <Laney> yes
[15:45] <Laney> could be a TextField bug I guess
[15:47] <Laney> timp: any idea? :-)
[15:47] <seb128> Laney,         Component.onCompleted: id.forceActiveFocus()
[15:47] <seb128> works for me
[15:47] <Laney> ah
[15:47] <Laney> That's marked as \internal though
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, ?
[15:48] <Laney> I'm looking at the source of TextField
[15:48] <seb128> Laney, it's a method of the base Item() object: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtquick/qml-qtquick2-item.html#forceActiveFocus-method
[15:49] <Laney> hmm
[15:50] <Laney> does indeed work though ;-)
[15:52] <seb128> yeah, it feels hackish
[15:52] <seb128> but it works...
[15:53] <kenvandine> nice!
[15:53]  * kenvandine thinks focus: true should work though
[15:53] <kenvandine> annoying
[15:56] <sam113101> rigved: the last one (13.04)
[16:01] <gusch> oSoMoN: I have no idea why it grabs the wrong data there - sorry
[16:03] <oSoMoN> gusch: no worries, thanks for looking into it anyway
[16:09] <om26er> nerochiaro, seem it was not able click the list item even if the mouse went there
[16:09] <om26er> nerochiaro, could be the click was not registered due to the slow environment
[16:09] <om26er> nerochiaro, see this video https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-saucy/1254/artifact/UbuntuUiToolkit.tests.gallery.test_gallery.GenericTests.test_toggles%20(with%20mouse).ogv
[16:09] <nerochiaro> om26er: can you try triggering a rebuild ?
[16:10] <om26er> and wow the autopilot tests for the UIToolkit are really written in a different way from the source I am looking at
[16:10]  * om26er would do thing much differently
[16:10] <nerochiaro> om26er: i noticed them being quite different
[16:11] <om26er> triggered the rebuild
[16:21] <nerochiaro> om26er: i also have a question about notes-app trunk, there's a revision 154 where you fixed a couple of tests. one of them uses the sleep function. why is that needed ? what's the problem that you are solving there ?
[16:21] <seb128> hum
[16:21] <seb128> onAccepted in a TextField doesn't seem to work, wth?
[16:22] <om26er> nerochiaro, bug 1204084
[16:22] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1204084 in notes-app "The input focus gets lost when the OSK appears during autopilot test run" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204084
[16:25] <om26er> nerochiaro, should I fix that you want to :)
[16:25] <om26er> ...or you want to
[16:26] <nerochiaro> om26er: as bill commented on the bug, we shouldn't use sleep if possible. can't we just use wait_for on the OSK visible property ?
[16:27] <om26er> nerochiaro, Yeah, we are going to use what webbrowser did
[16:30] <nerochiaro> om26er: also, are unit tests also still failing under qemu ?
[16:31] <om26er> nerochiaro, not sure about that, never knew about that
[16:31] <nerochiaro> om26er: how do you build packages for the phone then ?
[17:09] <Laney> do we have an example somewhere of getting the current position?
[18:28] <kaziwaseef> Im done with the Flickable thing perfectly. I pushed it to lp:~kaziwaseef/ubuntu-clock-app/flickable-added-2
[18:39] <mmcc`>  Hi folks, I'm trying to debug a click package created by qtcreator, as installed using 'sudo click install foo.click' on the device (a nexus 7) - it doesn't appear to put a .desktop file anywhere, so I just linked to the one in the installed dir. However, it's still not running correctly (clicking on the icon displays a plain white screen). Is there a log somewhere I can look at to debug?
[18:46] <fugue88> bzoltan: ^ Is that one you could answer?  Or do we need cjwatson?
[18:48] <bzoltan> mmcc`: The .desktop hooking mechanism is not done yet and so not integrated to the SDK. What you see there is more like a tech preview of the click packages... obviously the lp:click project is progressing and cjwtason puts a lot brain and hand into that project.
[18:50] <bzoltan> so to say short... in the present status the QtC click packaging is not meant to create packaged app what you can launch from the shell... you can package, you can install and you can see what is going on
[18:51] <mmcc`> bzoltan: ok. definitely understood that it's a work in progress. is creating click packages from outside QtC more complete? I was hoping to use it to package an app for a demo next week
[18:53] <bzoltan> mmcc`:  Nothing can stop the devs to bzr branch lp:click and make a new local release .. the QtC interface to the Click will not change in the following days
[18:53] <bzoltan> mmcc`:  We are focusing on QA work... creating autopilot coverage on the QtCreator and on our plugins ... we suffered a lot
[18:54] <fugue88> bzoltan: beuno had an app that he demo'd installing and launching.  Do you know how that one was built?
[18:54]  * fugue88 tries to get the name
[18:54] <bzoltan> mmcc`:  and running after a really quickly (respect to cjwatson) developing Click project would have been eating our time too much... so I draw a line :) and that is released today with the Beta SDK
[18:55] <bzoltan> fugue88:  with Click?
[18:55] <fugue88> bzoltan: A calculator app, apparently packaged as .click because he goes through the same install process from the dash.
[18:55] <fugue88> "Fake Calculator"
[18:55] <bzoltan> fugue88:  You can create .deb packages from any  project in QtCreator and you can even install and deploy the app packaged in .deb ... but with click it is only packaging and installing ... no launching
[18:56] <AskUbuntu> How can I get user/system information in a QML mobile app? | http://askubuntu.com/q/324038
[18:56] <bzoltan> fugue88:  that is gonna be a fake :)
[18:56] <fugue88> Well, I assume it doesn't calculate.
[18:56] <fugue88> beuno: That Fake Calculator, is it an actual .click package?
[18:59] <beuno> fugue88, yes
[18:59] <fugue88> And that actually launched.
[18:59] <beuno> right
[18:59] <fugue88> So, at least with whatever versions of code beuno's using, it's possible.
[19:00] <beuno> I can't launch apps created from qtcreator either
[19:00] <beuno> running into that atm
[19:00] <bzoltan> beuno:  so how the .desktop is hooked up to the Shell?
[19:01] <beuno> bzoltan, that's more of a cjwatson or ted question
[19:02] <beuno> sergio may know as well
[19:02] <bzoltan> beuno:  as far as I knew it is not done yet ... the .desktop must be under the /usr/share/applications or under /home/phablet/.local/share/applications/
[19:02] <fugue88> bzoltan: Your knowledge is ancient.    I certainly am not following technical details, just overall status.
[19:06] <fugue88> It's actually quite amazing, given how many teams and moving parts there are for this, how well it's come together so far.
[19:06] <beuno> one small piece missing!
[19:06] <fugue88> Nuance.
[19:06] <fugue88> ;)
[19:06] <bzoltan> beuno, fugue88: I will jump on it straight tomorrow morning... it is 10pm :) and I am up since 5am
[19:06] <beuno> bzoltan, btw, here's the demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62dgYISBgIQ
[19:06] <fugue88> :O
[19:07] <fugue88> gn, bzoltan.
[19:14] <bzoltan> beuno: I have more than one question related to that demo ... #1 how on earth you start the phablet shell on your desktop?
[19:14] <beuno> bzoltan, bzr branch lp:unity8
[19:14] <beuno> follow the instructions
[19:14] <beuno> ./run
[19:14] <beuno> done
[19:15] <bzoltan> beuno: Geez.. Why I did not know about it??? It should be one of the top features of the SDK!
[19:15] <bzoltan> :)
[19:15] <beuno> bzoltan, indeed!  Happy to help you tomorrow to get up and running
[19:15] <bzoltan> beuno:  sweet :) ?
[19:15] <bzoltan> _GOOOOD_NITE_
[20:29] <nik90> renato: https://code.launchpad.net/~kaziwaseef/ubuntu-clock-app/flickable-added-2 does the trick
[20:29] <nik90> renato: he modified the animationcontainer into a flickable. It needs some small tweaks. But otherwise it works as intended.
[20:35] <renato>   nick instead of call flick function try to set the : contentY
[20:35] <renato> and uese a NumberAnimation for this property
[20:43] <nik90> renato: but by using flick, arent we leaving the sdk flickable defaults instead of using our own numberAnimation?
[20:43] <renato> you can use Ubutntu animation
[20:44] <nik90> so instead of flick(0, -1000), I would do contentY: something
[20:44] <nik90> and then add behavior on ContentY
[20:44] <renato> yes
[20:45] <renato> more specific contentY: contents.height - flickable.height
[20:50] <nik90> renato: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5908923/
[20:51] <nik90> renato: although what would be the statement for the else if cae?
[20:51] <nik90> case?
[20:55] <renato> contentY = 0
[20:56] <renato> nik90, instead of momentEnded try to use flickableDirection
[20:56] <renato> sorry wrong
[20:57] <nik90> renato: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5908939/
[20:57] <renato> nik90, works?
[20:58] <nik90> renato: yup :)
[20:58] <AskUbuntu> How to create multiple pages in HTML5 app and link them together | http://askubuntu.com/q/324085
[20:58] <renato> nik90, why do you need the clip: true?
[20:58] <nik90> renato: wow this ended up much simpler than what we created before. Glad to do some code refactorings
[20:59] <nik90> renato: otherwise you can see the clock face behind the header when you swipe up
[20:59] <renato> nik90, ok
[20:59] <renato> great work guys
[20:59] <nik90> renato: well this is all the work of kazi :D
[20:59] <renato> nik90, why this magical number (10, -10)
[20:59] <renato> why not >0 <0
[21:00] <nik90> renato: that is the swipe tolerance
[21:00] <renato> ok
[21:00] <nik90> but thinking about it now, it could be 0
[21:00] <renato> make this a property
[21:00] <nik90> ok
[21:01] <nik90> but should i make it 0 or leave it as 10?
[21:03] <renato> nik90, is up to you and the designers
[21:04] <nik90> renato: the only think I am not happy about is the contentHeight: units.gu(87)
[21:05] <renato> nick98 this should be tha page height
[21:06] <renato> each page should set it to the correct size
[21:06] <nik90> oh
[21:07] <renato> and make sure that you set: flickableDirection to only flick on vertical direction
[21:07] <renato> or this can be set by : childrenRect.height
[21:08] <nik90> renato: I will set the flickableDirection to only vertical.
[21:09] <nik90> childrenRect.height does not work


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