[15:26]  * cpaelzer starts to prep for the first MIR 2022 campfire
[15:29] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[15:29] <slyon> o/ hey there, happy new year MIR team!
[15:29] <cpaelzer> yeah - indeed
[15:30] <sarnold> good morning, happy new year :)
[15:30] <joalif> happy new year!
[15:30] <didrocks> happy new year!
[15:30] <cpaelzer> ping slyon, didrocks, sarnold, joalif (optional: doko ddstreet) for MIR meeting
[15:31] <cpaelzer> arrr
[15:31] <cpaelzer> year starts bad by me forgetting jamespage :-(
[15:32] <cpaelzer> updated the wiki to copy and paste it from now on :-)
[15:32] <cpaelzer> ok let us get this started, hoping the others will join in a bit
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:32] <cpaelzer> we had more discussions on the rust rules, but those can stay in just github as preliminary for now
[15:32] <cpaelzer> for now => until the rust MIR itself is more mature
[15:33] <cpaelzer> But we also had something simple yet helpful in
[15:33] <cpaelzer> https://github.com/cpaelzer/ubuntu-mir/pull/4
[15:33] <cpaelzer> We have two reviews (mine and slyon) and no negative statements
[15:33] <cpaelzer> I'd make that active after the meeting unless there are objections
[15:33] <cpaelzer> are there any?
[15:34] <didrocks999> (sorry, my IRC disconnected, missed previous pings if any)
[15:35] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:35] <cpaelzer> wb didrocks999
[15:35] <sarnold> cpaelzer: is 'recurring jobs' there meant to cover both systemd jobs as well as crontab entries?
[15:36] <sarnold> didrocks999: we're discussing https://github.com/cpaelzer/ubuntu-mir/pull/4 at the moment
[15:36] <didrocks999> ack
[15:36] <cpaelzer> sarnold: that is the purpose, before we just said services
[15:36] <cpaelzer> sarnold: which is too narrow
[15:37] <cpaelzer> you'd be the first to complain about a root, crontab executing some random data
[15:37] <cpaelzer> doesn't have to be a service to be bad
[15:37] <sarnold> *nod*
[15:37] <cpaelzer> hence the extension to cover them all
[15:37] <didrocks999> agreed
[15:37] <cpaelzer> ok with that topic then, thanks
[15:37] <didrocks> I think this is a nice addition, I don’t have anything to add to the PR itself
[15:37] <cpaelzer> as i said I'll make it active after the meeting
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:37] <cpaelzer> I have identified four
[15:38] <cpaelzer> let me go through those and then let me know if you see more
[15:38] <sarnold> heh, you were right, debian folks were busy :)
[15:38] <cpaelzer> hehe
[15:38] <cpaelzer> libstring-copyright-perl -> libset-intspan-perl
[15:38] <cpaelzer> that is a foundations subscription, slyon would you mind to check what you want to do with that?
[15:39] <slyon> yes, will do
[15:39] <cpaelzer> poistgresql-14 ->llvm-toolchain-13 is for server (postrgesql) and I started a mail thread with the kernel team
[15:39] <cpaelzer> they own the former versions and I asked if they would be ok to take -13 as well before I open an MIR
[15:39] <cpaelzer> that MIR is probably trivial as it is just a version bump
[15:40] <cpaelzer> next is suitesparse -> suitesparse-graphblas
[15:40] <cpaelzer> didrocks: that is a descktop subscription, would you have a look how you want to deal with it?
[15:40] <cpaelzer> -c
[15:40] <didrocks> will do
[15:40] <didrocks> double recommends :p
[15:40] <cpaelzer> and finally (of those I found)
[15:41] <cpaelzer> php-xmlrpc - that was split out of php and I started https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-xmlrpc/+bug/1956345 to deal with it
[15:41] <cpaelzer> didrocks: is that the answer for suitesparse, you might have to tell me a few more times until I can memorize it as known false-positve
[15:41] <cpaelzer> anything else that you can spot we need to deal with?
[15:42] <didrocks> cpaelzer: no, I just mean I’ll have a look, I didn’t know we display multiple recommends on the graph
[15:42] <sarnold> I think libio-prompt-tiny-perl is new to the list, but it feels like foundations may already be on it, it was mentioned in here
[15:42] <slyon> yes, that's pending inside foundation's backlog
[15:42] <cpaelzer> yeah, generally if it has a stub bug (like this) it has an owner
[15:43] <cpaelzer> in this stage we just want to avoid things get lingering and languishing in here until we explode
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:43] <cpaelzer> none
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:43] <didrocks> \o/
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:44] <cpaelzer> raqm I saw the update, is dealt with by a package update
[15:44] <cpaelzer> php-xmlrpc I just mentioned
[15:44] <cpaelzer> glusterfs gets new tests, but those are completed
[15:44] <cpaelzer> it is actually "only" on security no more on the team
[15:44] <cpaelzer> changing incomplete->new
[15:45] <slyon> nice
[15:45] <cpaelzer> done
[15:45] <cpaelzer> everything else is older
[15:45] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:46] <didrocks> nothing for me
[15:46] <sarnold> nothing here
[15:46] <slyon> nothing
[15:46] <cpaelzer> We all need to make sure we wear the nicest IRC cloak next week as I guess we will welcome our newest team member: joalif
[15:47] <cpaelzer> nothing else :-)
[15:47] <sarnold> lol
[15:47] <cpaelzer> question, were there any assigned review on anyone of you that are still stalled?
[15:47] <cpaelzer> or are those we saw all that are in flight
[15:47] <joalif> cpaelzer: I'm here :)
[15:48] <cpaelzer> hiho, welcome to the team
[15:48] <sarnold> welcome joalif :)
[15:48] <slyon> welcome on board joalif!
[15:48] <joalif> thanks!
[15:48] <didrocks> welcome!
[15:48] <cpaelzer> joalif: above you see on of our weekly syncs, from there we assign reviews or discuss/decide on anything that needs to be done
[15:49] <cpaelzer> usually for new members on the first few reviews assigned we essentially "review the review" and try to start with some simpler packages
[15:49] <didrocks> cpaelzer: I have one for desktop, but seb will be back next week only anyway
[15:49] <cpaelzer> since we had none to assign today we can't do that yet :-)
[15:49] <cpaelzer> ok didrocks thanks for the heads up
[15:49] <cpaelzer> well, I guess for today that is it then
[15:50] <joalif> yup, I'm going through the MIR process to understand how it works
[15:50] <cpaelzer> yeah it is a good read, but will only come to live once you handle it for real :-)
[15:50] <cpaelzer> closing words of today - always keep in mind 1.09% of the year is already over, so hurry up
[15:50] <cpaelzer> o/
[15:51] <slyon> haha o/
[15:51] <cpaelzer> goodbye, see you all next week
[15:51] <joalif> bye o/
[15:51] <sarnold> awesome :) I'm already looking forward to next year-end break..
[15:51] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:51:51 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2022/ubuntu-meeting.2022-01-04-15.29.moin.txt
[20:02] <rbasak> o/
[20:03] <rbasak> vorlon, mdeslaur: around?
[20:03] <rbasak> The others aren't in here.
[20:04] <rbasak> Oh, Marc sent his apologies already. Sorry!


[01:33] <valorie> androidbruce: I woke up the same way a couple of days ago
[01:33] <valorie> neti pot to the rescue
[01:33] <valorie> if you do it soon enough
[01:33] <valorie> I do not have time to get sick!
[01:34]  * valorie passes out the vitamin C
[02:16] <bkerensa> valorie: I hope to apply for Membership next month (if timing works out)
[02:16] <bkerensa> Just sent out a e-mail to a bunch of Ubuntu types seeking more testimonials
[02:16] <bkerensa> :D
[02:17] <valorie> did I already write on your page?
[02:17] <valorie> if not, I will
[02:17] <valorie> maybe I can make it down for your release party
[02:17] <valorie> can't make plans atm, too much happening all at once.....
[02:20] <bkerensa> valorie: Yeah you got me :D
[02:20] <bkerensa> valorie: I know that feeling... Been kinda burned out myself lately and still so much to do
[02:20] <bkerensa> :P
[02:21] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[02:21] <valorie> cut out some things you don't like
[02:21] <valorie> hand them to someone who DOES like them
[02:21] <valorie> burnout is nothing to joke about
[02:22] <bkerensa> valorie: I carry the entire load for our loco
[02:22] <bkerensa> :(
[02:22] <bkerensa> Events, Website, Meetings, Wiki etc
[02:22] <bkerensa> =/
[02:22] <bkerensa> then my contributions to other teams
[02:23] <bkerensa> and IRL stuff
[02:23] <valorie> that isn't good for your team
[02:23] <valorie> they need stuff to do
[02:23] <valorie> so start delegating, man!
[02:24] <valorie> I'm going to go get my flu shot
[02:24] <valorie> want it before getting on an airplane......
[02:25] <bkerensa> valorie: ttyl :D
[04:56]  * valorie comes back from the store laden with party goodies
[19:39] <thefinn93> release party tonight?
[19:39]  * thefinn93 is excited
[19:39] <thefinn93> I'll be there, ~10 minutes late. 2hr bus ride
[19:40] <bkerensa> :D
[19:40] <bkerensa> valorie: please take pics :D
[20:29] <seattlegaucho> Crap! I forgot!
[20:29] <seattlegaucho> won't be able to get there :,(
[20:30]  * seattlegaucho will have to think of something
[20:33] <bkerensa> seattlegaucho: :(
[21:06] <valorie> *I* plan on having a good time, even if I'm by myself
[21:06] <valorie> :-)
[21:26] <bkerensa> valorie: Finn is coming... I insisted he go
[21:26] <bkerensa> :P
[22:03] <seattlegaucho> If I haven't been abused by my co-workers the rest of the day ... I'll go
[22:03] <seattlegaucho> it'll give me a good excuse to ride the light rail back and forth
[22:04] <seattlegaucho> ... anb BTW, we're desperately looking for an experienced MySQL DBA in Seattle ... pls pass the word along to your network
[22:10] <valorie> seattlegaucho: your folks should send an email to the Linuxchix job-posting
[22:10] <valorie> list
[22:11] <valorie> http://www.linuxchix.org/jobposts-list-guidelines.html
[22:11] <valorie> they don't have to sub -- just follow the guidelines and send the email
[22:11] <valorie> or you can do it
[22:12] <valorie> I'm one of the admins
[22:13] <valorie> and yay for Finn!
[22:13] <valorie> I can give him a ride home after, if he needs/wants it
[22:24] <seattlegaucho> valorie: thx for the URL ... I asked our recruiter to post the job there
[22:27] <valorie> awesome!
[22:28] <valorie> I think the economy is picking up a bit -- there have been some actual job postings lately
[22:37] <seattlegaucho> I never ever saw a slow down reg mysql dbas
[22:38] <bkerensa> I could never do a mysql dbas job
[22:38] <seattlegaucho> valorie: If I go tonight ... can you give me a ride back to the light rail by the airport?
[22:38] <bkerensa> to focused one such simple stuff
[22:38] <bkerensa> :D
[22:38] <seattlegaucho> bkerensa: then you don't have the skills we look for :p
[22:38] <bkerensa> never understood why companies hired Mysql dbas versus a full sysadmin
[22:39] <seattlegaucho> Oh my ... I might need to go tonight to the party after all
[22:39] <bkerensa> seattlegaucho: ;) I could do circles around any mysql scenario... I just don't want a 9 to 5 ;) I turn down freelance projects every single month :P
[22:41] <bkerensa> Someone just last week offered to pay me $100 to install Open EMR which takes like 10 mins tops :P and I passed on it
[22:41] <bkerensa> ;)
[22:41] <seattlegaucho> for our number of servers, any sysadmin would spend all their time doing mysql chores and r&d ... so they wouldn't be a sys admin anymore
[22:42] <seattlegaucho> ... and then you factor in high availability, backups and monitoring ... and a DBAs job is never done
[22:42] <seattlegaucho> ... which goes beyond simple replication and linux ha
[22:43] <bkerensa> seattlegaucho: Why not automate the mysql work flow with puppet or another solution?
[22:43] <seattlegaucho> never mind performance enhancements (80% of the time beyond a sysadmins skill set), db design, sharding, etc
[22:44] <seattlegaucho> bkerensa: we use puppet and a number of other skills ... but there's way more to it that puppet can't handle
[22:44] <seattlegaucho> s/skills/tools/
[22:44] <bkerensa> seattlegaucho: You guys use Workbench too I imagine?
[22:44] <seattlegaucho> nope ... it's too immature
[22:45] <seattlegaucho> bkerensa: for full disclosure I should mention that I used to work @ MySQL since we were < 50 people through the Sun acquisition ;)
[22:46] <bkerensa> seattleguacho: Yeah and Oracle uses Workbench in-house atleast thats what the MySQL/Oracle Community Manager told me
[22:46] <bkerensa> :P
[22:46] <seattlegaucho> yeah right ... I know them all by name and the only reason they do is because they tip-toe around the bugs
[22:47] <seattlegaucho> you have to define all the connections parameters by hand ... ssh & mysql ... try that w/ 200+ servers
[22:47] <valorie> definitely -- I'm taking off in a few so I can get the room set up and such
[22:47] <seattlegaucho> bash is your friend in those cases
[22:47] <valorie> my phone # is<PHONE_NUMBER> if you need to text
[22:47] <MJEvans> Oh it's tonight?  I forgot, I don't hve anything ready x.x
[22:48] <seattlegaucho> "apt-get dist-upgrade" is not possible yet ... my upgrade will have wait
[22:49] <valorie> MJEvans: I'm not going to burn anymore CD/DVDs -- just thumbdrives
[22:49] <valorie> I have ones from a couple of days ago though
[22:49] <bkerensa> valorie: Yeah I'm looking into finding some 2gb flash drives then reaching out to one of our loco's sponsors to get some made/bought/shipped
[22:49] <MJEvans> The launch party also isn't dinner this time...
[22:50] <bkerensa> Going forward each member will get a USB and we can just throw the new image one
[22:50] <MJEvans> Which is less incentive for me to go
[22:50] <bkerensa> but Kingston also gave me a 64GB dual band wifi storage thingy that I store ISO's on and then members can connect wirelessly and download whatever they need
[22:51] <valorie> well, we can order in pizza
[22:51] <valorie> and I'm bringing bread, cheese, drinks, veggies
[22:51] <valorie> Michael, it's close to you!
[22:51] <valorie> you can burn CDs at the party if you want
[22:52] <valorie> that's awesome, bkerensa
[22:52]  * valorie has all the Kub.


[01:11] <phil42> i'm back to 14.04
[04:24] <diidoo> Hello, anyone there?
[04:27] <ianorlin> diidoo, yes I am here do you have a question
[04:28] <diidoo> Yes. I just recently installed the newest version of Lubuntu onto my laptop, but I can't connect to wifi as there is no nm-applet. Any suggestions to fix this?
[04:32] <ianorlin> diidoo, can you press alt-f2 and try running nm-applet
[04:33] <ianorlin> or open a terminal and run pgrep nm-applet to see if it is running
[04:34] <diidoo> when i pres alt-f2 and run nm-applet, absolutely nothing happens. How do i open a terminal?
[04:35] <ianorlin> diidoo, control alt t
[04:36] <diidoo> I entered "pgrep nm-applet" and hit enter into the terminal, and it says "908"
[04:37] <ianorlin> diidoo, then it is running
[04:38] <ianorlin> ok right click on your panel, click panel settings
[04:38] <diidoo> Ok, and then?
[04:39] <ianorlin> make sure you have indicator applets in the panel
[04:40] <diidoo> Do i click on "indicator applets" and press "add"?
[04:40] <ianorlin> if they are not already on the panel yes
[04:41] <diidoo> When i selected panel applets and scrolled down, it was already there.
[04:41] <ianorlin> ok then click settings and make sure indicator applets is slected on the settings for that
[04:42] <diidoo> i selected "preferences" and a little window popped up with "indicator applications" with a check mark next to it
[04:43] <ianorlin> that should happen
[04:43] <ianorlin> wierd
[04:44] <ianorlin> ok maybe press alt f2 and run nm connection editor
[04:45] <diidoo> Gave me an error, Failed to execute child process "nm" ( no such file or directory"
[04:48] <ianorlin> nm-connection-editor
[04:48] <ianorlin> sorry
[04:49] <diidoo> Oh ok.
[04:49] <diidoo> Yes it brings up network connections
[04:49] <diidoo> this has been available since i installed the os
[04:59] <diidoo> ianorlin anymore suggestions?
[06:16] <xangua> hello eveyrone, first time I'm trying out Lubuntu or LXDE, just installed Lubuntu 16.04 and tried to change the letter size of the window tittlebar, the letter changed it's size but also stopped being bold
[06:17] <xangua>  I tried using both openbox and appearence settings but can't neither change it to bold (I select it but no effect) or change it as default
[07:09] <R3d_Sky> Hello
[07:10] <R3d_Sky> Weston doesnt work on the rpi
[07:10] <R3d_Sky> Is this a known issue?
[10:07] <taiebot> Hi i am experiencing a regression on 16.04 everytime i log in after a standby my mouse cursor in invisible i need to launch leafpad and close leafpad to see my cursor. Anyone experiencing the same problem?
[10:15] <taiebot> ok i see it has already been reported
[10:15] <taiebot> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1568604
[10:29] <Zxcvb> I have been trying to instal lubuntu in virtualbox but it keeps hanging when retrieving packages
[14:10] <jofre> hello? it is working?
[14:11] <jofre> mmm, I was wondering if I could find help here.
[14:12] <jofre> In case someone reads this...
[14:13] <jofre> I was a very happy user of the Lubuntu15.10, but after a fresh install of the 16.04, my laptop is eating the battery in no time and the display does funny things.
[14:13] <jofre> I install i7z, and I observe jumps on the cpu freq and nothing is being done...
[15:23] <phil42> you are not the first to find problems with 16.04
[17:36] <ianorlin> well actually i7z show frequency jumps a lot when working properly
[18:34] <diidoo> Hey, can anyone help me? I just recently installed Lubuntu onto my laptop. I cannot connect to wifi as there is no nm-applet. any solutions?
[21:59] <jearauz> I think I have found a bug in Lubuntu 16.04. Can someone help me fix it?


[09:31] <alan_g> hi duflu, welcome back!
[09:31] <duflu> thanks... otp :)
[13:10] <kdub> hmm, libmir-test-assist linking failure in builders
[13:12] <alan_g> well... no-one uses it anyway. :(


[01:41] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: WIKI573 up for proofreading, <- 16:42 :P
[01:49] <Wild_Man> thanks Bashing-om, I will take a look
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Ack
[01:52] <tsimonq2> .ir
[01:52] <tsimonq2> whooops
[01:52] <tsimonq2> hi :)
[01:53] <Wild_Man> Hi tsimonq2
[02:01] <Bashing-om> Is that a tsimonq2 in the wild ?
[02:20] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I just got home and I am exhausted but was there a consensus on including this "Purism to Beef Up Privacy of Its Linux Devices with Private Internet Access VPN"?
[02:21] <Wild_Man> The part about the phone may be okay but the OS that is not ubuntu for a certain laptop really does not in my opinion
[02:22] <Wild_Man> I know the ubuntu OS phone by UBports os okay
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Nope - there is but Chris and I doing UWM. We might should move that ^ also to "other interest" .
[02:23] <Wild_Man> If it stays I think so, but I would drop off the p[art about the OS being used on the laptop
[02:24] <Wild_Man> krytarik, should give his thought on it
[02:25] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: That is why I put the WIKI together as soon as possible on Sunday so all can give input on what will be :P
[02:25] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I know, you are doing a great job
[02:27] <Wild_Man> I found a sentence with a word missing but it is a direct quote so no action needed
[02:28] <krytarik> Wild_Man: I was fine with including the Purism article in general, but suggested moving it from the Blogs section to Other News, which was done - I didn't look closely at its summary yet though.
[02:29] <Wild_Man> krytarik, In general I think it is okay concerning the phone but probably only that and not the laptop part
[02:31] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, everything else looks good with the quick look I took but I am very tired, so more eyes the better
[02:31] <Wild_Man> Has mike be around?
[02:40] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: No Mike has not been around - maybe banned as the result of  an unwarrented attack in another channel.
[03:01] <guiverc> Bashing-om, maybe replace /in its PureOS which ship with its Librem laptops, and also in the Librem 5/Librem Laptops, and also in the Librem 5/  (you can remove the double-space too in the edit then)
[03:05] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I do whatever greater minds want me to do .. but as where the article is - I have no objection at all to how it reads as is.
[03:12] <guiverc> i wasn't wrapped about PureOS reference either  (yet it looks like me who write it..)
[03:14] <guiverc> (last few weeks, and until after Easter I'm busy on weekends; I may be offline all next weekend)
[03:15] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I did not write it .. just made some minor edits .. and as I did not write .. musta been you :P With all the interest in convergence and phones we do need to pick up on our coverage - so I think.
[03:17] <krytarik> Bashing-om, Wild_Man, guiverc: After the mentioned incident in #ubuntu-discuss, I dropped mike from the Google Doc's access list as a precaution yesterday btw.
[03:18] <Wild_Man> krytarik, okay, is the a way I can see what happened?
[03:18] <Wild_Man> there
[03:20] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Yeah, I seen that he had been dropped .. fully agree :)
[03:20] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Unfortunately the channel isn't publicly logged currently, but the gist is he flooded the channel with insults to another member basically out of nowhere.
[03:21] <Wild_Man> krytarik, okay, that seems very out of character, maybe he is unstable
[13:11] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Security:: Episode 27 @ https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-27/
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[16:22] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: HP Linux Imaging & Printing Drivers Now Support Linux Mint 19.1 and Debian 9.7 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing-drivers-add-support-for-linuxmint-19-1-debian-9-7-525600.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[18:47] <Bashing-om> Pulling "WIP" and making that final edit.
[19:57] <Bashing-om> Pushing the big red button : 20:00 GMT .
[20:02] <Bashing-om> M/L is away .. doing the forum post.
[20:09] <Bashing-om> Forum post is done - doing the re-directs :)
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Annddd re-directs also done. Pending now is posting to the social medias that I do not have accesses.
[21:05] <Wild_Man> Hi Bashing-om, I take it social media and the fridge need published?
[21:10] <guiverc> Wild_Man, i can be 2nd for fridge (if required)
[21:11] <Wild_Man> Okay guiverc , I am preparing to start on it in a few minutes
[21:11] <Wild_Man> Thanks
[21:33] <Wild_Man> guiverc, ready for a 2nd
[21:34] <guiverc> 2nd.
[21:35] <Wild_Man> Publishing now
[21:36] <Wild_Man> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/08/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-573/
[21:36] <Wild_Man> guiverc, do you want me to do FB and Twitter?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: guiverc Back - Had to run !
[21:37] <Wild_Man> Hello Bashing-om
[21:38] <guiverc> Wild_Man, yes please.   I'd to g+ if it helps, oh wait..
[21:38] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :) ... Glad you could make it .
[21:38] <Wild_Man> guiverc, g+ has closed down
[21:38] <Wild_Man> Thanks Bashing-om me too
[21:39] <Wild_Man> I rushed home today to be here, I am leaving probably in a few minutes
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: With all my brood - I can never predict where I will be :P
[21:40] <Wild_Man> I know the feeling
[21:43] <Wild_Man> All done!
[21:43] <guiverc> :)
[21:43] <Wild_Man> Chris everything look right on the fridge?
[21:43] <guiverc> yep!
[21:45] <Wild_Man> Thanks!
[21:46] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Wild_Man Clear to wipe Gdoc ? And we do UWN574.
[21:46] <Wild_Man> Yes Bashing-om , and great job guys!
[21:46] <guiverc> 573 is done so I see why not.
[21:46] <guiverc> see/can't see/ ^
[21:46] <Wild_Man> I have to feed my cat she is bugging me
[21:47] <Bashing-om> Soon as I get all caught up I attend to wipping Gdoc and setting to 574.
[21:56] <Wild_Man> go for it
[21:59] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 573 @ http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2019/04/08/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-573/
[21:59] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu MATE: Ubuntu MATE 18.04 and 19.04 for GPD Pocket & Pocket 2 @ https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/ubuntu-mate-update-for-gpd-pocket/
[22:47] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Jono Bacon: Career Guidance For Young People: A Retrospective @ https://www.jonobacon.com/2019/04/08/career-guidance-young-people/
[22:58] <Bashing-om> And we do UWN474 - Gdoc set :P
[23:21] <Wild_Man> Thanks Bashing-om
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: :) - Where has all the Good halp gone off to ?
[23:25] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I do not know it is in short supply through out the whole community I think
[23:26] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: jose droped me a line - but declined to return to active service :P
[23:27] <Wild_Man> Did you contact him and asked if he would help?
[23:29] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, ^^^
[23:29] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Well, was " hey there. just wanted to take a minute to thank you once again for keeping uwn alive." .
[23:30] <Wild_Man> That is awesome! you are getting the credit you deserve
[23:32] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Still be nicer to 'finger' out a means to get real time feed back from our readers.
[23:32] <Wild_Man> I know, you might ask tsimonq2 the best way to try it\
[23:39] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Softpedia:: Ubuntu MATE 19.04 and 18.04.2 Are Now Available for GPD Pocket and GDP Pocket 2 @ https://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-mate-19-04-and-18-04-2-are-now-available-for-gpd-pocket-and-gdp-pocket-2-525603.shtml (by Marius Nestor)
[23:44] <tsimonq2> Best way to do what? :)
[23:46] <Wild_Man> tsimonq2, Bashing-om would like to get feedback from the readers so we know how many people actually read the letter these days and possibly see if they have recommendations for making it better
[23:46] <Wild_Man> I saw an old survey from years ago, that seemed like it received a lot of feedback


[00:22] <rick_h__> no one at CHC?
[00:49]  * widox just got home
[00:49] <widox> is it just you, rick_h__ ?
[00:50] <rick_h__> widox: well cmaloney just showed up
[00:50] <rick_h__> so now it's a party
[00:55] <widox> fun
[01:07] <jrwren> party!
[01:07] <jrwren> wow, late edition
[01:08] <rick_h__> heh yea
[01:19] <cmaloney> Woo part part
[01:19] <cmaloney> parry parry
[01:26] <skellat> cmaloney: Ping
[01:34] <cmaloney> skellat: pong
[01:35] <skellat> How goes it?
[01:35] <cmaloney> Good, though I'm getting ready to go AFK for a bit.
[01:35] <cmaloney> bbiab. :)
[01:35] <skellat> No problem
[03:29] <cmaloney> back
[12:30] <cmaloney> Good morning
[12:59] <jrwren> party pary?
[13:43] <cmaloney> Thankfully they ripped a hole in the wall for the area they're doing construction so we can hear it more clearly
[13:43] <cmaloney> Sounds like the stomach of a giant robot
[14:49] <cmaloney> .np squeekyhoho
[14:49] <bookiebot> squeekyhoho's current track - Adora Vivos by Woods of Ypres on Woods 5: Grey Skies & Electric Light
[15:18] <brousch> I'm supposed to take my son and myself for haircuts tonight while my wife is out. I sent her this http://imgur.com/wvVEROB
[15:18] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/V4jKv3 - imgur: the simple image sharer
[15:24] <mrgoodcat> anybody have an aeropress and/or french press?
[15:26] <brousch> I have a french press
[15:26] <brousch> I just got it 10 days ago
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> ever used an aeropress?
[15:26] <mrgoodcat> i'm trying to decide which to get
[15:27] <brousch> I have not
[15:27] <mrgoodcat> oh well
[15:28] <mrgoodcat> will probably just go with a french press
[15:28] <trevlar> mrgoodcat: I have an aeropress
[15:28] <trevlar> I like it
[15:29] <rick_h__> moka pot ftw! :)
[15:29] <rick_h__> have a french press, the wife uses it but it's meh for coffee imo
[15:29] <rick_h__> I almost got an aeropress, but it seemed like I'd be stuck with custom filters and the like
[15:29] <brousch> I love the coffee from my french press
[15:31] <brousch> It has more substance than filtered coffee, but no grounds get through
[15:31] <rick_h__> moka pot
[15:31] <rick_h__> much better than the french press
[15:31] <mrgoodcat> lol
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> knew rick_h__ would have a strong opinion on the subject
[15:32] <rick_h__> :)
[15:32] <rick_h__> well I'm aeropress curious
[15:32] <mrgoodcat> what don't you like about the press?
[15:33] <mrgoodcat> most coffee lovers seem to love them
[15:34] <rick_h__> french press?
[15:34] <rick_h__> the taste of the coffee isn't as good
[15:34] <brousch> I don't see what difference a moka pot would have compared to french press
[15:34] <jrwren> french press: its better than drip
[15:34] <rick_h__> right, it's better than drip
[15:34] <rick_h__> but < moka pot
[15:34] <rick_h__> and I don't know about aeropress
[15:35] <mrgoodcat> the advantage of press over drip as I see it is a more even steep. Drip gets super bitter and over extracts some while under extracting the rest
[15:37] <brousch> The filter is also a problem
[15:37] <mrgoodcat> paper filter extracts the oils?
[15:37] <mrgoodcat> you don't have to use a paper filter in a drip maker
[15:38] <brousch> moka pot looks more annoying to set up and clean
[15:38] <mrgoodcat> i'm trying to figure out what the advantage of moka pot is
[15:39] <brousch> It gives you extra hipster points
[15:41] <mrgoodcat> seems to me a moka pot would brew at above-optimal temperatures
[15:41] <mrgoodcat> e.g. bitterness
[15:42] <widox> I <3 my french press
[15:42] <widox> maybe rick_h__ wasn't using a proper grind ;)
[15:42] <rick_h__> :P
[15:43] <rick_h__> grind level 1 baby
[15:43] <widox> I have heard from many folks that the aeropress is great - I actually just got one, haven't used it yet though
[15:43] <widox> brews a bit stronger then other methods
[15:44] <widox> its also super easy to clean
[15:45] <widox> and, you can get metal filters instead of paper ones
[15:45] <widox> though, it comes with a few paper ones
[15:46] <mrgoodcat> where do detroit-area folks get their beans?
[15:46] <mrgoodcat> my parents always sing the praises of TONX
[15:46] <rick_h__> every 2wk mail order peets
[15:47] <widox> mrgoodcat: I started using Tonx recently. pretty good
[15:47] <widox> otherwise, I like to buy eith Great Lakes or Germack beans
[15:47] <mrgoodcat> i like the idea of tonx
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> hassle free
[15:48] <widox> yes. but you don't get a choice either
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> yea...
[15:48] <mrgoodcat> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[15:49] <widox> but, the risk of some crap beans is low :)
[15:50] <mrgoodcat> time to go to lunch
[16:07] <trevlar> I like to get Great Lakes too
[16:08] <trevlar> available at westborn and other grocery stores if you can't make it to the shop
[17:06] <cmaloney> I must be a complete luddite because I just get the Meijer beans. :)
[17:07] <brousch> cmaloney: You disgust me
[17:07] <greg-g> I get grocery store beans too
[17:07] <cmaloney> Splurged on Zingermans beans last time we were at Meijer
[17:07] <cmaloney> Though I don't get the "fill your own bag" beans. They're pre-sealed.
[17:07] <greg-g> I don't feel like paying $15 for 12 ounces when I can get beans for $9.99/lb
[17:07] <cmaloney> But they're not bad.
[17:07] <cmaloney> I tend to drink things dark roasted anyway so bitterness is not a huhge factor for me.
[17:08] <jrwren> cmaloney: the meijer organic beans aren't bad at all
[17:08]  * greg-g is a light-medium roast kind of guy
[17:09] <cmaloney> Ow. My foot just hurt pretty hard.
[17:20] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: Do you receive my Dragon Go Server invites?
[17:21] <ColonelPanic001> hm. Did I install that on the new phone
[17:22] <ColonelPanic001> I may just be dumb, hang on
[17:22] <ColonelPanic001> I didn't before though, had to go to the site to accept them
[17:22] <cmaloney> Ah, OK
[17:25] <brousch> I want to learn Go
[17:26] <ColonelPanic001> play go
[17:26] <cmaloney> brousch: Want book recommendations?
[17:26] <cmaloney> Also, play lots off go
[17:27] <brousch> I don't know any Gonads
[17:27] <rick_h__> greg-g: woot light/medium, more caffiene
[17:27] <brousch> I assume that's what you call yourselves
[17:27] <ColonelPanic001> it is now
[17:27] <cmaloney> we prefer Weiquinads
[17:27] <ColonelPanic001> I don't.
[17:27] <cmaloney> ;)
[17:27] <greg-g> rick_h__: and taste, I like the taste better :)
[17:27]  * ColonelPanic001 is a gonad
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: +1
[17:28] <greg-g> rick_h__: as in, it has taste other than "burnt" ;)
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: I'm a picky meduium roastser guy. Peets domnico ftw
[17:28] <rick_h__> greg-g: exactly!
[17:28] <greg-g> :)
[17:28] <ColonelPanic001> I have some maxwell house at home
[17:28] <ColonelPanic001> nothing but the best decaf for me
[17:28] <greg-g> good to the last drop
[17:29] <brousch> French Roast. The burn covers the taste of sadness from decaf
[17:29] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can burn the heretic
[17:29] <rick_h__> greg-g: http://www.peets.com/coffee/by-roast/coffee-shop-by-category-medium-roast/cafe-domingo-wholebean-each.html is what I get every 2wk ftw
[17:29] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/eN3s85 - Café Domingo® | Peet's Coffee & Tea
[17:29] <rick_h__> domingo not domnico :/
[17:29] <ColonelPanic001> or just send me coffee. I don't drink it enough to justify bothering with good stuff like I do with tea
[17:29] <ColonelPanic001> too much caffeine
[17:29] <cmaloney> ColonelPanic001: please report to the town center where we can draw, quarter, and then burn the heretic
[17:30] <rick_h__> greg-g: <3 the camping pics
[17:32] <greg-g> rick_h__: :) it was fun
[17:32] <mrgoodcat> sudo reboot
[17:32] <greg-g> first time with a camp stove since boy scouts
[17:32] <mrgoodcat> gah ignore that
[17:32] <rick_h__> lol
[17:32] <ColonelPanic001> [sudo] password for mrgoodcat:
[17:32]  * ColonelPanic001 crosses fingers
[17:32] <rick_h__> greg-g: looked awesome, water, nice spot there.
[17:33] <rick_h__> greg-g: the little man looked like he was having a blast
[17:33] <greg-g> yeah, a secret spot :)
[17:33] <greg-g> he did, he LOVES the woods
[17:33] <greg-g> still scared of water a bit, but working on that
[17:33] <rick_h__> glad to see you're not letting the beard go to waste lol
[17:33] <greg-g> haha, nope
[17:33] <rick_h__> yea, we started swim classes at 6mo because we wanted to try to bypass the water fear
[17:33] <greg-g> unfortunately, I'm also growing a belly to go with it, need to work on that
[17:33] <rick_h__> camping is good for that :) lots of steps
[17:34] <greg-g> :)
[17:35] <rick_h__> though we went to a county campground and there was an ice cream truck that came by. First time the boy got to do that
[17:35] <rick_h__> he came running back from his mom waving it in his hand "daddy daddy look what I got!!!"
[17:35] <mrgoodcat> no ice cream trucks in my neighborhood at home...
[17:36] <greg-g> rick_h__: wow
[17:36] <mrgoodcat> neighborhood assoc. decided not to allow them
[17:36] <greg-g> yeah, no ice cream trucks at this campsite
[17:36] <rick_h__> yea, the county part is much more of a camper/trailer thing. Lots of tent sites/etc but has a lot of trails, boat rentals, a kids activity schedule every weekend
[17:36] <rick_h__> arts and hay rides/etc
[17:36] <rick_h__> so it's a bit bigger/etc than your normal woods campsite
[17:37] <greg-g> it's 12 miles up a road up the mountainside along a creek, dead ends at a trailhead. A mile before the trailhead is a campground with ~6ish sites. No water spigot, just vault toliets and two bear proof trash cans.
[17:37] <rick_h__> but was funny, "we're camping, why is there an ice cream truck going by?"
[17:37] <jrwren> i wish we had ice cream trucks here.  if we did, I'd not be able to hear it over my own music.
[17:37] <rick_h__> so you hiked in the tent/stove/etc?
[17:37] <rick_h__> nice
[17:38] <greg-g> so, the only people who stay at this site either A) are just sleeping one night before they start out on a backpacking trip or B) have been told about it by friends as 'that place that is perfect, no resrevations ever, even foruth of july, and did I say it's pefect?"
[17:38] <greg-g> oh, no, only hiked the stuff 50ft-ish, the site is one mile before the trailhead, along the road
[17:38] <rick_h__> oh before it
[17:38] <greg-g> yeah
[17:39] <cmaloney> Y'know, I'm starting to sour on these Leopold keyboards.
[17:39] <rick_h__> did I tell you we switched up our plans out there
[17:39] <cmaloney> Having an issue with the f key
[17:40] <rick_h__> greg-g: we're going to do yosemite vs wine country
[17:40] <rick_h__> cmaloney: time to go filco, keyboard level += 1
[17:40] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'm starting to think so as well
[17:40] <cmaloney> Though the CODE keyboard piqued my interest.
[17:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: whoa! nice!
[17:41] <cmaloney> We'll see. If this thing starts misbehaving again then I'll be making an order
[17:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: where are you staying? in the park or a hotel outside?
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> backpacking++
[17:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: cabin outside
[17:41] <mrgoodcat> greg-g: what trail?
[17:41] <cmaloney> though obviously not from this keyboard should the F key go wonky. :)
[17:41] <greg-g> cool!
[17:41] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: no, we're going to be in SFO with family and have luggage/etc
[17:41] <greg-g> mrgoodcat: California Trinity-Shasta National Forest
[17:41] <rick_h__> so just day hikes, but I'll be bringing the tripid and camer gear
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> ah. thats a bit far for me
[17:42] <greg-g> I'm not giving direct directions, I need to keep this place semi-secret :)
[17:42] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: hoists lakes and the manistee river trail/northern country trail loop are nice around here
[17:42] <rick_h__> lol
[17:42] <mrgoodcat> i like killarney provincial park in canada
[17:42] <rick_h__> though we've not backpacked since the boy was born
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> i've done some of the app. trail too though and it was amazing
[17:43] <rick_h__> greg-g: but yea, doing a really good family friendly wine country thing was getting to be too pita, so big parks it is then!
[17:43] <rick_h__> greg-g: not like we're out that way that often to see it anyway
[17:43] <greg-g> yeah, backpacking turned to car camping on Dec 11, 2012 :)
[17:43] <rick_h__> lol
[17:44] <greg-g> we tried one night of backpacking with a 6 month old, it worked, but yeah, only one night :)
[17:44] <greg-g> the next day we went a bought a coleman tent and air mattress :)
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> wow that sounds painful
[17:44] <greg-g> it wasn't too bad, he was mostly in "happy to be carried in a carrier" mode
[17:45] <greg-g> but, making camp/dinner/setup stuff was tough
[17:45] <rick_h__> hah, yea we did tent camping but he'd get up at 4:30am most trips
[17:45] <rick_h__> and moved over to trailer "camping"
[17:45] <greg-g> :)
[17:46] <rick_h__> greg-g: see my eagles nest pics from our trip the 4th?
[17:46] <greg-g> no!
[17:46] <greg-g> on g+?
[17:46] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14622411343/
[17:46] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/iwlo54 - P1030553.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:46] <rick_h__> yea, G+ and I thought on twitter, but maybe not
[17:46] <cmaloney> http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=keyed_up_labs,tenkeyless&pid=es87u_cc_bbb_al
[17:46] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/zlZLK7 - KUL ES-87 Tenkeyless Keyboard (Cherry MX Clear) - elitekeyboards.com - Products
[17:47] <cmaloney> That looks interesting
[17:47] <rick_h__> greg-g: there's one chick in the nest and another up to the left on a branch
[17:47] <greg-g> cool
[17:47] <rick_h__> yea, was hoping to get mom or dad around but no luck
[17:48] <rick_h__> 550mm range to get that shot, needed a boat to get closer heh
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> rick_h__: what camera?
[17:48] <rick_h__> mrgoodcat: my gx7
[17:49] <rick_h__> think it has camera/lens info if you scroll down
[17:49] <mrgoodcat> ah yes it does
[17:49] <rick_h__> ran into deer several times as well https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579111846/
[17:49] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/cG2vSx - P1030476.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:49] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14579079506/
[17:49] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/W0EpMH - P1030448.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[17:50] <rick_h__> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/14414905070/in/photostream/
[17:50] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/Qe2SEp - P1030193.jpg | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
[18:06] <greg-g> kids on summer vaction in coffee shop drinking their latte's through a straw
[18:06] <rick_h__> lol
[18:06] <mrgoodcat> heh
[18:14] <cmaloney> And to think we had to beg our parents for coffee-milk
[18:15] <cmaloney> Didn't even know how to order it
[18:15] <greg-g> spoiled kids too, you should see their table, it's disgusting
[18:15] <greg-g> half-finished pastries, crumbs everywhere
[18:15] <mrgoodcat> my dog would love them
[18:17] <cmaloney> Hate that
[18:17] <rick_h__> greg-g: wife sent this to me the other day http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816.html
[18:17] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/4aFso0 - Suspicious Activity Detected | Distil
[18:17] <rick_h__> bah
[18:17] <cmaloney> ;)
[18:17] <rick_h__> wsj hates me
[18:17] <cmaloney> Also: FUck Microsoft Activation
[18:18] <rick_h__> lol
[18:18] <rick_h__> greg-g: well shared with you on G+ and hopefully loads
[18:18] <greg-g> yeah, that loaded fine
[18:18] <cmaloney> Had to do a repair on MS Office because it couldn't activate properly.
[18:19] <greg-g> I remember there being a book recently about that, an american mom who moved to france and how she changed her parenting etc
[18:19] <cmaloney> Installed Libreoffice in the interim because it doesn't care how you use it, just how you distribute it.
[18:19] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea, not usually up to the bait of that stuff
[18:19] <cmaloney> If it's in the WSJ it's likely because someone is promoting said book.
[18:19] <greg-g> ah, yeah, rick_h__, that's an excerpt/adaptation of the book I was thining of
[18:19] <cmaloney> ++
[18:19] <rick_h__> greg-g: ah interesting
[18:19] <greg-g> wait, no
[18:19] <rick_h__> cmaloney: gets the medal!
[18:20] <greg-g> no, unwait, yes
[18:20] <greg-g> it said "to be published on tuesday" so i was confused, until i saw the publication date of the article
[18:20] <rick_h__> anyway, I think we as parents sometimes do like to compare against others and yet know/feel like we shouldn't
[18:20] <cmaloney> Seriously, the only time a news-source prints a "blinding flash of the obvious" it's because someone is promoting something
[18:21] <cmaloney> Wonder at what point all of the news will be sponsored by something
[18:22] <cmaloney> "12 car-pileup in Downtown Happytown reported. In his latest book 'how to keep from crashing' Dr. Wanker described the common causes of 12 car pileups"
[18:22] <cmaloney> "1) Losing focus on the focus of driving"
[18:23] <cmaloney> "2) Rapture. Though this isn't as common as #1."
[18:24] <greg-g> I pray ever day for the rapture
[18:24] <greg-g> not for the same reasons others do
[18:25] <cmaloney> "Calgon, take them away"
[18:25] <greg-g> :)
[18:34] <jrwren> rapture palooza was a terrible movie.
[18:34] <rick_h__> lol
[18:47] <jrwren> looks like she did a 2013 followup: Bébé day by day : 100 keys to French parenting
[22:22] <gamerchick02> itunes is a pain in the arse. bleh


[18:02] <tarunno> Angel:  hi
[18:02] <tarunno> Angel: is there any maintaince going on in linux.org.bd?
[18:05] <tarunno> ping Ekushey
[18:05] <tarunno> boss you there?
[18:05] <tarunno> hellooooo
[18:05] <Ekushey> hi shabab bhai
[18:05] <Ekushey> no the site is up
[18:05] <Ekushey> you can't access it?
[18:05] <tarunno> Angel: is there any maintaince going on in linux.org.bd?
[18:05] <tarunno> nope
[18:06] <tarunno> was it down for sometime?
[18:06] <Ekushey> in the morning for 10 minutes
[18:07] <tarunno> dns dropped
[18:07] <tarunno> showing Site not found
[18:08] <Ekushey> সর্বমোট ৩৪ জন ব্যবহারকারী অনলাইনে :: [ নিবন্ধিত ১৫ জন, অতিথি ১৯ জন ] (গত ৫ মিনিটের পরিসংখ্যান)
[18:08] <tarunno> also got update that  Banglalion, GP and Banglalink users are having same problem
[18:08] <Ekushey> I've posted a thread before making the change: http://forum.linux.org.bd/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2784
[18:09] <tarunno> can't read :P
[18:10] <Ekushey> it is you local dns issue then
[18:10] <Ekushey> can you try using opendns or google dns?
[18:10] <tarunno> I have a PPP tunnel
[18:10] <Ekushey> <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:10] <tarunno> so, local dns don't work
[18:11] <tarunno> those are updated
[18:11] <Ekushey> you can check with hidemyass.com, site is up...
[18:11] <tarunno> yes, I checked it :)
[18:12] <tarunno> site is up but local ISP's DNSs are not working
[18:12] <tarunno> :(
[18:12] <tarunno> may be will up by next hour
[18:12] <tarunno> I guess they update hourly
[18:12] <tarunno> or something like that
[18:13] <Ekushey> yeah your ISP's DNS issue, give them a call in the morning if you still can't access the site
[18:14] <tarunno> Calling them is like tickling a Hipo
[18:14] <tarunno> they will make some instant sweet promises
[18:14] <tarunno> and will respond a week later
[18:14] <tarunno> :(
[18:15] <Ekushey> what ISP is this?
[18:15] <Ekushey> local broadband?
[18:16] <tarunno> Just have been informed that someone resolved money problem by drawing advance
[18:16] <tarunno> the ligendary   "Smile/BDCom"
[18:16] <Ekushey> oh smile :)
[18:33] <tarunno> ok guys gotta run
[18:33] <tarunno> c u around


[20:47] <jamesrf> hi there, i'm wondering if someone could recommend an appropriate place to post a job in vancouver for an ubuntu sysadmin
[20:48] <IdleOne> canonical jobs
[20:49] <jamesrf> thanks that's great
[20:50] <IdleOne> http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/ there is a ML you can post to also
[20:52] <jamesrf> yep found it thanks a lot IdleOne++
[20:52] <IdleOne> no problem
[20:53] <billybigrigger> anyone aware of a program that will show me what folders, including hidden ones, are taking up all of my space in my /home?
[21:00] <IdleOne> billybigrigger: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[21:00] <billybigrigger> IdleOne, baobab, yeah i couldn't find it, thought it was in system/admin