[00:37] <Maik> someone willing to take care of jamesprada in #xubuntu? after asking him kindly to take is windows 7 talk into the offtopic channel he still refuses to do so. It's getting annoying.
[00:59] <krytarik> Maik: Well, if he still continues with it after your most recent poke just now, then yeah I'd be inclined to help him out.
[01:06] <Maik> krytarik: ok thanks. second time i had to ask him by the way.
[01:10] <krytarik> Yeah, I've seen it twice during the day iirc, and considered poking him about the current one a bit ago myself.
[01:11] <krytarik> Stuff like this actually belongs in -ops btw.
[01:14] <krytarik> So this turns out to be the same guy who only yesterday inquired about spreading Xubuntu..
[01:14] <Maik> yep
[01:15] <Unit193> Lastlog just showed that and two mentions of Windows, yeah.  Not too over the line yet.
[01:16] <Maik> krytarik Unit193: he started yesterday with: <jamesprada> i wonder how to explain to old lady what is booting and how to change order of it on Bios
[01:16] <Maik> also offtopic chit-chat
[01:17] <krytarik> Maik: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/11/04/%23xubuntu.html#t20:08 - then you might have missed the actual start.
[01:18] <krytarik> Eh, picked the wrong time, but eh..
[01:19] <Maik> ah, probably. My bad


[01:04] <lamont> gah
[01:06] <wgrant> Oh?
[01:11] <hallyn> (that didn't sound encouraging)
[01:46] <psusi> anyone got any advice on where to start debugging ubiquity hanging while detecting disks?
[01:47] <psusi> hrm... or better yet, how to revert to the previous version... was changed yesterday for a new partman... sounds like a good candidate
[02:02] <skaet_> all, known affected packages have been rebuilt now,  and the buildds have been turned on.
[02:08] <skaet_> For those interested,  the list of packages can be found at: http://paste.ubuntu.com/572428/ .
[02:09] <Chipzz> skaet_: what exactly was the cause?
[02:49] <skaet_> Chipzz,  sudo on the builders was updated earlier today, and it had different default behaviour, so some of the packages created had the wrong permissions.
[03:10] <hallyn> skaet_: thx for the heads-up
[03:10] <skaet_> hallyn, you're welcome.
[03:47] <psusi> ev, yesterday you enabled reuse/* in partmant-auto.  This seems to cause it to hang when detecting partitions in ubiquity on the daily live cd.  filed bug #725408
[05:49] <microcai> gtk-window-decorator sigfault at /usr/lib/libdecoration.so.0
[05:51]  * microcai emerald also segfault at /usr/lib/libdecoration.so.0
[07:01] <ohsix> is there anything that can be done by the kernel to keep harddrive temperatures down, or really by anything? i've had 2 drives basically get the bits annealed right out of them in my ubuntu laptop
[07:03] <hyperair> try airing them out a bit
[07:03] <hyperair> what's their temperatures like?
[07:03] <cdbs> jdstrand: ping
[07:03] <cdbs> jdstrand: according to DDs the info on repacks of tarballs should go to the Comment: field in DEP-5 debian/copyright
[07:04] <cdbs> jdstrand: and you rejected dmedia, even though it contained the info:
[07:04] <cdbs> Comment: Upstream's sources was repacked to remove unnecessary test files dmedia/tests/data/* from the tarball.
[07:04] <ohsix> hyperair: well iv'e done everything that could be done about airflow, right now i have to monitor it and inject emergency air with something if it gets over 55c
[07:04] <cdbs> ^^ taken from debian/copyright
[07:05] <hyperair> ohsix: but i've never had any hard disk overheating issues before. what machine is that?
[07:05] <ohsix> the drive sez it can do 60c but i've already lost some stuff from random stuff becoming unreadable, on a drive that's only been on for 200 hours; one that replaced a drive doing the same thing
[07:05] <ohsix> compaq cq60
[07:05] <hyperair> that sucks =\
[07:06] <hyperair> i'd take the laptop back to the manufacturer, and complain really
[07:06] <ohsix> try smartctl -l scttemp on your harddrive
[07:06] <hyperair> around 43
[07:07] <hyperair> doesn't get higher than that
[07:07] <hyperair> and there's no airflow around my hard disk
[07:09] <ohsix> what model?
[07:09] <ohsix> and does smartctl -t long make the temperature go up
[07:11] <hyperair> lenovo y410
[07:12] <ohsix> nah, of the harddrive
[07:12] <hyperair> this is a two year laptop that has gone through some serious I/O thrashing before without overheating the hard drive
[07:12] <hyperair> the first was a scorpio blue
[07:12] <hyperair> the second was a hitachi something or other
[07:12] <hyperair> and this one is another wd hard drive
[07:13] <ohsix> k
[07:13] <hyperair> it seems the compaq cq60 is prone to frying hard drives
[07:13] <ohsix> heard wd 2.5 drives were cool drives
[07:13] <hyperair> well i didn't notice any difference between that and the hitachi
[07:14] <hyperair> and i've got the sensors-applet stuck on my panel, so i see my hard disk temp all the time
[07:15] <MTecknology> I wish I could get output from acpi -t
[07:15] <ohsix> the drive i have now keeps going up in temp, if slowly; but that doesn't bode well if it's doing nothing
[07:15] <MTecknology> it just returns nothing on this laptop :(
[07:16] <cdbs> Hello all, this is my scenario:
[07:16] <ohsix> where did you see that the cq60 has harddrive problems?
[07:16] <cdbs> I uploaded a new package before FF, and it got reviewed yesterday
[07:16] <cdbs> and it got rejected, saying there was no documentation on why the package was repacked
[07:17] <cdbs> infact, there WAS clear documentation, which I guess the AA mistakenly missed
[07:17] <cdbs> so, I need to re-upload, do I need an FFe (I guess yes)
[07:17] <cdbs> ?
[07:17] <ohsix> the awesome part is the previous overheated drive bricked the whole thing during a bios update
[07:23] <ohsix> hyperair: but anyways; i'm looking for stuff to do that can be automated, like having the drive accessed less when the temperature is too high; so i don't have to do it manually
[07:25] <ohsix> hyperair: this is the type of stuff i'm looking at http://paste.ubuntu.com/572512/
[09:18] <ohsix> UGH haha, hddtemp returns "drive is sleeping" when it's spun down
[09:18] <ohsix> reading the temp doesn't wake it up; and the point of me letting it spin down is to moderate the temperature, ufhg
[09:33] <ohsix> ugh apparently hitachi has a vendor specific command to read the temperature without a spinup; but generally reading smart data means the drive accessing the task file, so a spinup; can't have both
[09:38] <ohsix> hyperair: are you still here? what do you get for hdparm -M and -B?
[09:39] <ohsix> hyperair: apparently the bios can set it, or it can be left entirely alone
[09:40] <ohsix> but with both of them set to default even an idling disk will get very hot
[10:04] <ohsix> heh hdparm.conf can only use /dev/sd? and /dev/hd? paths; the device order changes though so you either have global settings or none
[10:08] <ohsix> hyperair: gotta go,  but if you could check -B & -M i'd be interested, they should be set to fast & no spindown, since its' set by a script in the hdparm package, and it's a dep of ubuntu-standard
[10:51] <YokoZar> why is libgnomevfs2-0 in libs but libgnomevfs2-bin in universe/libs when they come from the same source package?  (Maverick)
[11:41] <wgrant> I've taken most of the distro build farm down again, since it seems the problems of 12 hours ago are not entirely resolved.
[11:41] <wgrant> Normal PPAs are unaffected, but distro and non-virtual PPA builds will be queued until this is sorted out.
[13:09] <artfwo> I fixed a bug in libappindicator in my own bazaar branch. what's the procedure for review and inclusion? should I set the status to "fix committed", unassing myself or whever else?
[13:10] <artfwo> is there a wiki page about submitting code patches?
[13:10] <artfwo> bug 724917
[13:34] <cjwatson> artfwo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[13:39] <artfwo> cjwatson, I've already proposed a branch merge according to the guide. Now I'd like to know if there's anything like MOTU bug workflow in the upstream projects (changing the bug status to "confirmed" and unassigning yourself, when ready for sponsoring)
[13:42] <cjwatson> I don't know how much it matters.  I wouldn't recommend using Fix Committed though - to me, that means that it's committed in the branch that developers upload from.
[14:18] <gaurav_pawaskar> Hi guys, has anyone written MD5 algorithm?
[14:19] <m4n1sh> gaurav_pawaskar: which language?
[14:19] <m4n1sh> framework etc?
[14:20] <gaurav_pawaskar> m4n1sh: not language as such. I just need a little clarification
[14:20] <m4n1sh> gaurav_pawaskar: I don't think everyone writes their own MD5 implementation
[14:20] <cjwatson> I would recommend against reimplementing basic algorithms like MD5.  You're better off using a standard implementation
[14:20] <m4n1sh> libcrypt contains it's implementation AFAIK
[14:20] <gaurav_pawaskar> Actually I do not need final output of MD5
[14:21] <gaurav_pawaskar> i need some intermediate data.
[14:21] <m4n1sh> gaurav_pawaskar: #openssl people can help better
[14:21] <m4n1sh> I think
[14:21] <gaurav_pawaskar> okey I will try there. Thanks alot m4n1sh
[14:22] <m4n1sh> gaurav_pawaskar: just ask them that you need to get the intermediate results
[14:22] <m4n1sh> so how to do it
[14:22] <m4n1sh> instead of asking "has anyone re-implemented it"?
[14:22] <gaurav_pawaskar> yes sure.
[15:15] <jdstrand> cdbs: no, you don't need an FFe. I responded in the email
[15:15] <jdstrand> cdbs: I apologize for missing the info. odd, cause I looked for it...
[15:17] <hjd> Hi. I stumbled across bug 709633, which is a package request for a package which was in Ubuntu earlier, but was removed from Debian (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=547514). Should this be handled like normal package requests?
[15:24] <ari-tczew> hjd: what do you want to achieve? re-pack into Ubuntu?
[15:30] <hjd> ari-tczew: I'm not sure. Sorry. I just stumbled across the bug report (not familiar with the software) and noticed it had been in Ubuntu earlier. So I wondered if that means if it should be treated like regular needs-packaging bugs or not. I first asked in #ubuntu-bugs, but it was suggested I could try to ask here.
[15:32] <hjd> Basically I thought about adding "needs-packaging" to the title and tag it, but I wasn't sure if it should be treated differently as it has been included before...
[15:39] <cdbs> jdstrand: re-uploaded
[15:39] <cdbs> no problem
[15:41] <jdstrand> thanks
[15:42] <ari-tczew> hjd: it was removed parallel from Debian and Ubuntu
[15:42] <ari-tczew> RM: luxrender -- RoM; RC-buggy; NPOASR
[15:44] <ari-tczew> hjd: if you want bring bag this package, you have to open a new bug against Debian and Ubuntu. however, if luxrender was removed in the past due to RC bugs, we preffer to get it from Debian, so if you want to maintain this package, feel free to do it in Debian.
[16:07] <hjd> ari-tczew: I see. I left a comment on the bugreport in case anyone else stumbles across it.
[16:17] <gaurav_pawaskar> Is there any channel for c++ help?
[18:18] <GunnarHj> SkottK: Ping?
[18:19] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Ping?
[18:25] <ScottK> GunnarHj: Pong.
[18:27] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Hello! Do you have a minute to talk about bug 719815?
[18:28] <ScottK> GunnarHj: Sure.
[18:28] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Have you read the latest comments on the bug?
[18:28] <ScottK> Looking now.
[18:30] <ScottK> GunnarHj: I'm still looking for someone like pitti or seb128 to review and say the changes are appropriate.  pitti is correct that we prefer unchanged backports, but things can be adjusted if they need to be.
[18:31] <ScottK> Personally I'm concerned that we want to be very careful with something as central as gmd.
[18:31] <ScottK> gmd/gdm.
[18:32] <GunnarHj> Scott: I have checked, and using the Natty packages without adjustments is not possible due to dependency issues etc.
[18:33] <ScottK> Right.  Adjustments when needed are fine.
[18:33] <GunnarHj> Scott: What I did so far is that I started with the last Lucid respective Maverick package and added some of the Natty revisions. To me it that appears to be the most convenient way in this case.
[18:35] <ScottK> OK.
[18:36] <ScottK> Why is this not suitable for SRU (since that's where you started)?
[18:37] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Well, you can see Martin's comment at the bottom of bug 553162.
[18:37] <ScottK> Looking
[18:38] <GunnarHj> ScottK: It appears to me that the SRU policy is very restrictive.
[18:38] <ScottK> It is, by design.
[18:39] <ScottK> GunnarHj: What's the confusion when using ssh?
[18:40] <GunnarHj> ScottK: If LC_MESSAGES is set, without that variable is set to the same value on the remote machine, translations don't work as expected.
[18:41] <ScottK> And we didn't set it before?
[18:42] <GunnarHj> ScottK: No. Which is one of the reasons that caused bug 553162.
[18:42] <ScottK> OK.
[18:43] <ScottK> I think that what you propose is reasonable for a backport, but because this is essentially updating the Lucid/Maverick pacakges and not a normal backport, I want someone from ubuntu-desktop to review and concur with the changes.
[18:43] <ScottK> GunnarHj: These changes are in Natty already?
[18:44] <ScottK> (that's also a requirement)
[18:45] <GunnarHj> ScottK: Yes, it's all in Natty already. I'm confident that Martin is ready to approve it as soon as he gets the time needed.
[18:45] <ScottK> OK.  Ping me again when he does.
[18:47] <GunnarHj> ScottK: I'll do. But, as I wrote on the bug, I will add some more of the Natty revisions first. No reason to limit it to "bug fixes" when we are talking about backports, right?
[18:58] <ricotz> ScottK, hello
[18:58] <ScottK> Hello ricotz.
[18:58] <ricotz> ScottK, do you have time to review a new package in the natty queue?
[18:59] <ScottK> Unlikely today.
[18:59] <ricotz> ScottK, it was reviewed by 3 motus already
[18:59] <ricotz> ScottK, ok
[20:49] <Renfield> Is this an appropriate channel in which to ask questions about creating a package?
[20:50] <penguin42> Renfield: I think there is a #ubuntu-packaging
[20:51] <Renfield> Yes there is. Thanks!
[23:28] <Ampelbein> is by chance anyone from ubuntu-sru here and willing to look at bug 709194 to see if everything is ok?
[23:59] <ari-tczew> Ampelbein: subscribe ubuntu-sponsors. now sponsors handle SRUs first, upload it and pitti looks on it in queue


[08:04] <whytrytofly> hello
[08:04] <whytrytofly> i setmy wallpaper, buti odnt know how to save it
[08:05] <whytrytofly> i dont have some autostart foldernor some .xinitrc
[08:46] <whytrytofly1> noone around?
[12:40] <kilbith> hi there, on 15.04, i'm the only one to experience a difficulty to start downloading the packages through apt or synaptic ?
[12:42] <kilbith> servers are responding fine, it's just frozen on starting the download
[13:35] <kilbith> anyone ?
[13:48] <leszek> kilbith: did you tried different mirrors already ?
[13:53] <kilbith> leszek, yes
[13:53] <kilbith> the main one, the fastness french one and a bunch of others
[13:54] <kilbith> fastess*
[13:54] <kilbith> it has some difficulty to *start* the downloading
[13:54] <kilbith> since its release
[13:55] <leszek> kilbith: did you already cleaned the caches ? (e.g. sudo apt-get clean )
[13:55] <kilbith> leszek, yes, i often do that
[13:55] <kilbith> i never had that problem on the previous releases
[14:12] <leszek> never heard of such a problem before and did not have that problem before
[14:16] <Nairwolf> have you just difficulties, or it doesn't work ?
[14:16] <kilbith> it works after a while, and it occurs at ~50% of chance
[14:16] <Nairwolf> Because, I've heard that apt use ipv6 by default. And if your ISP has problems actually with ipv6, it could be that
[14:17] <Nairwolf> because, it's the issue I met actually
[14:17] <kilbith> my ISP supports IPv6 actually
[14:17] <Nairwolf> okay, so it's not this
[14:17] <kilbith> IPv6                           Activé
[14:17] <kilbith> -> "activated" on my board
[14:17] <Nairwolf> Are you french ?
[14:18] <kilbith> yep
[14:18] <Nairwolf> It's like me ;) But sorry for your problem, if it's not, I have no idea. Maybe, you've some issues with your source.list, I don't know....
[14:19] <kilbith> well, the mirrors themselves works fine
[16:56] <ilhami> do you know why Ubuntu's screenshot tool make so bad quaility screenshots when pasting into Libreoffice???
[17:00] <ianorlin> ilhami: there are multiple screenshot tools in the repos what screenshot tool are you using?
[17:00] <ilhami> the default one. it's called screenshot
[19:57] <dust> keyboard didnt react and the arrow up key did hang and only a reboot did fix it
[20:08] <allegorical> crap... so i used linux live usb creator to get lubuntu on my usb stick but i don't know which application to run
[20:09] <allegorical> internet cut out and my paper trail was lost :(
[20:09] <allegorical> VirtualBox.exe, Virtualize_This_Key.exe, etc
[22:15] <Gibarian> Any user of Dropbox in Lubuntu around?
[22:15] <ianorlin> Gibarian: I am not but if you ask your question someone will answer it quicker
[22:16] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone
[22:16] <Gibarian> Ok, just for comparing notes, I have an issue with the tray icon, it appears with a white box
[22:17] <Gibarian> Just to check if somebody else is affected by it, and if any workaround is available
[22:18] <Gibarian> apparently it has something to do with the panel transparency


[14:24] <mhall119> I  wish lazr.restful had a face
[14:24] <mhall119> so I could punch it
[15:02] <mhall119> nigelb: ping
[15:58] <james_w> mhall119, hi, know of any reason why I shouldn't prep and request a deployment now?
[15:59] <james_w> I'd like to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/summit/+bug/855810, but I want to get this done before I go on vacation in a few hours
[16:14] <mhall119> james_w: a deployment would be great
[16:14] <mhall119> I have no objections
[16:14] <james_w> cool, thanks
[16:14] <james_w> request incoming
[16:15] <james_w> sending to the linaro rt so that I can prioritise
[16:16] <james_w> oops, wrong subject
[16:46] <nigelb> mhall119: pong
[17:06] <mhall119> nigelb: just wanted to let you know that they changed the wsgi settings on summit to only re-use processes for so many requests before killing it and starting a new one
[17:06] <mhall119> to hopefuly clear out any leaked memory
[17:07] <nigelb> mhall119: Great, is that what was going wrong?
[17:07] <nigelb> I remember dsowen telling us about this.
[17:17] <mhall119> nigelb: we still don't know what was going on
[17:17] <mhall119> but if it was a memory leak in our code (or libraries we used), that should prevent it
[17:18] <nigelb> ok :)


[00:00] <atrus> m4rk: ~/"Ubuntu One"
[00:01] <m4rk> atrus, i mean on the cloud
[00:02] <m4rk> it seems very slow :(
[00:04] <atrus> that's the cloud for you :)
[00:04] <atrus> i seriously have no idea. i sort of thought that was part of the point of cloud computing/storage.
[00:05] <m4rk> atrus, nevermind. I need to know
[00:05] <m4rk> bye
[01:20] <melvster1> hi all, is there a roadmap for ubuntu one?  Im curious to know if there will ever be clients for other OS's like Dropbox, and I couldnt find anything on the mailing list ... ?
[07:00] <psypher246> hi ubuntuone team, i need some assistance with OFFLINE syncing, i need to be able to upload all my files (30GB or so) once and then copy the u1 folder to several machines so that I don;t have to download it again to all those machines, completely unfeasble to do so.
[07:01] <psypher246> i have tried copying the matadata over as well but as soon as i reconnect u1 it redonwloads all the files and makes all the files that I copied manually as conflict
[12:16]  * rtgz wrote a skeleton diagnostic script. In python, not native language yet, so feel free to comment on the (absence of) code quality, style and general problems.
[12:16]  * rtgz put the link to the script here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RomanYepishev/UbuntuOne/Diagnostics
[13:37] <LiCeT> hi all
[13:42] <rtgz> LiCeT, hi
[13:52] <mandel>  /msg NickServ identify Qwerty
[13:53] <mandel> ups
[15:05] <vds> hello hello
[15:05] <vds> Desktop+ MEETING BEGINS:
[15:06] <teknico_> me
[15:06] <vds> aquarius Chipaca_ dobey urbanape teknico
[15:06] <vds> jblount:
[15:06] <vds> you know how it works
[15:06] <vds> say me to  join the company! :)
[15:06] <vds> me
[15:08] <vds> teknico: start please
[15:08] <teknico> VROOM VROOM
[15:08] <teknico> DONE: more updating of the Funambol code to v. 8.0 (#403435)
[15:08] <teknico> TODO: finish updating the Funambol code to v. 8.0 (#403435), review mandel's branch again, finally triage my 20 bugs
[15:08] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:08] <teknico> next: vds
[15:09] <vds> DONE: still fixing the two branches to port funambol v8 in sourcedeps, code review
[15:09] <vds> TODO: land them! code review
[15:09] <vds> BLOCKED: nope
[15:09] <vds> EOM
[15:09] <teknico> THEN WHO WAS PHONE
[15:39] <rodrigo_> hey, an Italian only standup today???
[15:39]  * rodrigo_ has an Italian brother-in-law!!
[15:42] <rtgz> Guys, sorry to bother you again, but could someone with python experience analyze the following code: http://code.google.com/p/ubuntuone-client-diagnose/source/browse/trunk/ubuntuone-client-diagnose.py ? I am interested especially whether there are some 'WTF???' statements present
[15:47] <verterok> rtgz: looks nice, I'ld use new style classes ;)
[15:47] <verterok> rtgz: but in general it looks ok :)
[15:49] <rtgz> verterok, new style classes... heh, new to the language and already using something old :)
[15:50] <rtgz> verterok, is it ok, to perform such class nesting as in BugHandlerCollection and later read the members from it or this is some kind of a hack?
[15:52]  * verterok looks
[15:53] <verterok> rtgz: why do you need the nested classes?
[15:54] <rtgz> verterok, because then I will not need to register the handlers anywhere, such as 'bug1': Handler1, 'bug2': Handler2
[15:54] <verterok> rtgz: what about having al the bug handlers in a module?
[15:55] <rtgz> verterok, you mean physycally in another file, yes, but then this will require at least 2 files to be downloaded. I could not find the way to declare a module, like just 'package Dead::Beef' in perl
[15:57] <verterok> rtgz: you couldregister the handlers in __init__
[15:58] <verterok> rtgz: as you'r defining one class per bug, you can have the bug number in a class level attribute
[15:59] <rtgz> verterok, but I should first find the name of the class to call __init__ leading to duplication, i.e. here is a class, and somewhere else this class is mentioned again and registered...
[15:59] <statik> wow, rtgz! thanks for all your hard work on triaging ubuntuone bugs
[15:59] <verterok> rtgz: and in the Bug.__init__ method register it in a gblobal list of handlers
[15:59] <rtgz> verterok, AH!!!
[15:59] <rtgz> verterok, yep, the base class!
[15:59] <verterok> rtgz: yeap :)
[16:00] <rtgz> verterok, it would be too easy then :).. thanks!
[16:01] <rtgz> verterok, aand it will save me one indentation level. cute :)
[16:01] <verterok> rtgz: e.g: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/329489/
[16:02] <verterok> s/bugnumber/number/ :)
[16:02] <verterok> rtgz: and no need to redefine __init__ on each class
[16:04] <rtgz> verterok, wow
[16:05] <verterok> rtgz: you need to remove the self.number = None in Bug.__init__ ;)
[16:05] <rtgz> verterok, I still feel guilty about writing my_var = 1, since this looks like it would create global var in JS... :)
[16:05] <verterok> :)
[16:06] <rtgz> verterok, okay, thanks for the info, I will patch that and return here later with another bunch of questions :)
[16:07] <verterok> rtgz: ok, thank you for working on that! :)


[00:22] <xubuntu146> Alright, I'm trying to install my printer and one of the packages required for the driver to work is ia32-libs. Yet it looks like this package is no longer available in 14.04. Is there a substitute or something?
[00:24] <xubuntu146> I mean, if the driver is not available in cups, then most likely it won't be in Xubuntu's repos, will it? Manually is most likely the only way to install, right?
[00:49] <SamwiseGamgee> I am about to install xubuntu 14.04.  does the name of my PC really matter?  Like does it have to be lower case and unique?
[00:49] <SamwiseGamgee> What are some considerations I need to take when deciding the name of my PC when installing xubuntu?
[00:51] <Kekai> your nam
[00:52] <Kekai> its only gonna be seen by you and other people on your netowork
[00:52] <Unit193> SamwiseGamgee: Just that it doesn't clash with another name on the network, can be confusing to the router.
[00:52] <SamwiseGamgee> Oh, then the name should be unique?
[01:05] <xubuntu146> anyone have any suggestions fo rmy issue with my laser printer/scanner
[01:07] <Unit193> What printer is it?
[01:08] <xubuntu146> Unit193: Brother MFC-7360N
[01:09] <xubuntu146> I need the ia32-libs it says
[01:11] <yoLo_> i installed a clean version of xubuntu 14.04 and updates doesn't work
[01:12] <yoLo_> basically... everything i try downloading doesn't work at all
[01:12] <SirLagz> what doesn't work ? how does it not work ?
[01:12] <SirLagz> do you get errors ?
[01:12] <yoLo_> it always prompts if i'd like to report error
[01:12] <xubuntu146> yoLo_: check your sources list
[01:12] <yoLo_> a lot
[01:12] <SirLagz> yoLo_: are you using the update manager ?
[01:12] <yoLo_> what sources list ?
[01:13] <xubuntu146> It crashes or it gives an error like 404?
[01:13] <yoLo_> the update manager and also in terminal
[01:13] <SirLagz> what happens when you do it in terminal ?
[01:13] <yoLo_> it crashes and also errors
[01:13] <SirLagz> what error ? how does it crash ?
[01:13] <SirLagz> yoLo_: can you pastebin the errors ?
[01:13] <yoLo_> wait
[01:13] <yoLo_> i'll show it to you
[01:13] <xubuntu146> yoLo_: what do you get when you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" without the quotes in terminal?
[01:15] <yoLo_> let me try
[01:17] <yoLo_> xubuntu146, i will pastebin it
[01:17] <yoLo_> here
[01:18] <yoLo_> http://pastebin.com/8hdzxUA7
[01:18] <yoLo_> even installing chrome crashed
[01:19] <yoLo_> and also python
[01:19] <yoLo_> dev
[01:21] <SirLagz> yoLo_: what did you do *before* this started happening ?
[01:21] <SirLagz> yoLo_: did you cancel an update or anything like that ?
[01:22] <xubuntu146> yoLo_: It may be an issue with the kernel it seems
[01:22] <yoLo_> After linux installation has completed update manager popped up saying 261MB of update available so i clicked to update
[01:22] <yoLo_> but it crashed...
[01:22] <yoLo_> internet was working perfectly fine...
[01:22] <SirLagz> yoLo_: how did that crash ?
[01:23] <xubuntu146> issue with bash*
[01:23] <SirLagz> yoLo_: I'm suspecting it crashing halfway through has buggered something up
[01:23] <xubuntu146> try doing sudo apt-get install -f
[01:23] <yoLo_> probably
[01:23] <yoLo_> k
[01:23] <xubuntu146> just run that "sudo apt-get install -f"
[01:24] <xubuntu146> and tell us what the output is
[01:24] <SirLagz> yoLo_: if what xubuntu146 says doesn't work,run "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade" and see what happens
[01:25] <yoLo_> omg.. i tried installing gedit and it also failed am getting alot of pop up "SYSTEM PROGRAM PROBLEM DETECTED
[01:26] <SirLagz> yoLo_: I think you may have a hardware issue.
[01:26] <SirLagz> yoLo_: dpkg-deb: error: subprocess tar was killed by signal (Bus error), core dumped  <-- that's not a good sign
[01:26] <SirLagz> yoLo_: is this an old PC ?
[01:26] <yoLo_>  nope
[01:26] <yoLo_> it's a lenovo thinkpad x201 2012
[01:27] <SirLagz> yoLo_: I'd start with a fresh install
[01:27] <yoLo_> SirLagz, that's exactly what i'm getting
[01:27] <SirLagz> yoLo_: or run `sudo apt-get install tar` and see what happens
[01:27] <xubuntu146> yoLo_: Yeah, try a new fresh install. It may be something went very wrong during install
[01:28] <yoLo_> that's what i'm doing right now.. i hade deleted the linux off my usb and i'm download from another mirror
[01:28] <xubuntu146> Maybe make sure to check your install medium before the reinstall also
[01:28] <xubuntu146> Alright, yeah, hopefully that'll fix it
[01:29] <yoLo_> i don't get something why is it that i'm downloading the same linux but at some mirror the iso size if much bigger ?
[01:29] <xubuntu146> yoLo_: that may mean the other one is corrupted.
[01:29] <yoLo_> amd64-bit waterloo is 913mb and toronto is 945mb why /
[01:29] <yoLo_> ?
[01:29] <xubuntu146> check a few other mirrors
[01:30] <xubuntu146> Which size do they match
[01:31] <yoLo_> i'm downloading directly from the site with torrent
[01:33] <yoLo_> i hope it is not some shortcut to a random mirror
[01:34] <yoLo_> just when i was about to get into scrapy and django orm this happens!
[01:35] <xubuntu256> why won't xubuntu install on my computer ? get a message saying (initramfs) unable to find a medium with a live file system
[01:36] <xubuntu256> any one have an idea ?
[01:36] <holstein> xubuntu256: sounds like a bad iso, or installation media
[01:36] <holstein> !md5
[01:36] <xubuntu256> have done all oth that still no luck
[01:37] <xubuntu256> tried it on a usb stick a cd and a dvd
[01:37] <holstein> xubuntu256: you have done what? confirmed the iso? or the installation media? are you trying to install and getting that message? will it run live or no?
[01:37] <xubuntu256> sorry confirmied iso
[01:37] <xubuntu256> i get a screen with xubuntu
[01:38] <holstein> xubuntu256: you make installation media from the iso, so that can still be testing and confirmed.. there is an integrity check in the menu
[01:38] <holstein> xubuntu256: try to specifically get to a live desktop.. choose "run live" or "try xubuntu" or whatever its called that is the *other* option besides "install"
[01:39] <xubuntu256> i downloaded the iso put it on a usb stick using one of the programs for this
[01:39] <xubuntu256> have tried running live
[01:39] <xubuntu256> still have same problem
[01:39] <holstein> xubuntu256: so, you *cant" run the live desktop?
[01:40] <yoLo_> i think it would be a bad idea if i installed linux with installing updates enabled
[01:40] <xubuntu256> nope goes to a screen saying xubuntu a circle spins for a few mins
[01:40] <holstein> yoLo_: i choose not to.. i update after the installation, so im sure i have the same, or very similar packages from the live CD
[01:40] <holstein> xubuntu256: then, what? the error message?
[01:41] <xubuntu256> then back to unable to find a medium etc etc etc
[01:41] <holstein> !nomodeset | xubuntu256 please try this
[01:41] <yoLo_> holstein, i also use to do that, this is my first time installing linux with updates enabled
[01:41] <holstein> xubuntu256: also, can you confirm that stick works buy booting on other machines?
[01:41] <xubuntu256> the stick works
[01:41] <holstein> yoLo_: really shouldnt be a problem, if the hardware is supported
[01:42] <holstein> xubuntu256: if you dont confirm it works, you are assuming, and that issue can cause the message you are seeing
[01:42] <xubuntu256> should be straight forward
[01:42] <xubuntu256> never had this problem on my notbook
[01:42] <holstein> xubuntu256: sure.. different hardware supports linux differently.. you were likely not promised the hardware would support linux in any way
[01:43] <holstein> xubuntu256: have you confirmed the integrity check? or tried nomodeset?
[01:43] <`Fibz> use a different program to make the live image.
[01:43] <xubuntu256> well I had this computer i'm using now well before i thought of converting to lynux
[01:44] <holstein> xubuntu256: sure.. im just letting you know why you would have potentially quite different experiences on 2 different machines
[01:44] <`Fibz> if you have access to a windows box i recommend Linux Live USB Installer (LiLi): http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[01:44] <xubuntu256> i never get that options (checking etc) I download burn boot select usb
[01:44] <holstein> xubuntu256: have you tried nomodeset?
[01:44] <`Fibz> also try noapic and nolapic
[01:44] <xubuntu256> get to the try xubuntu laselect language etc blue screen
[01:44] <xubuntu256> back to message
[01:45] <`Fibz> try booting with the advanced boot options nomodeset noapic nolapic
[01:45] <holstein> xubuntu256: you get to the menu for the integrity check and nomodeset and the other (good) suggestions from `Fibz in the menu by pressing shift at boot.. after the bios screens.. as outlined in..
[01:45] <holstein> !nomodeset
[01:47] <xubuntu256> I tried the usb stick on my wifes computer we both have windows 7 works on hers
[01:48] <xubuntu256> but no luck on mine
[01:48] <holstein> xubuntu256: ok. so the stick is likely "good" then.. have you tried the options above?
[01:48] <holstein> xubuntu256: specifically, nomodeset, noapic and nolapic
[01:49] <xubuntu256> might as well not losing any thing i suppse
[01:49] <xubuntu256> thanks for all you advice guys much appreciated
[01:49] <xubuntu256> i'll be back
[01:52] <xubuntu146> Damnit, still can't get this Brother MFC-7360N to print
[01:54] <Char|ie> Hi, does the xubuntu minimal cd have cfdisk?
[01:54] <Char|ie> I am going to install it on a slightly older laptop
[01:54] <Char|ie> It has windows xp on it, which went haywire on a major update, so Im just gonna do a complete install of xubuntu to take over the hard drive completely
[01:54] <Char|ie> any suggestions?
[01:55] <`Fibz> if you arent worried about saving the data you can just install without needing anything special
[01:56] <yoLo_> does ur PC have optical drive ?
[01:56] <Char|ie> It has a cd drive
[01:56] <holstein> Char|ie: AFAIK, there is just the one xubuntu iso.. are you talking about the mini iso?
[01:56] <holstein> !mini
[01:56] <Char|ie> mini iso. yes.
[01:57] <holstein> Char|ie: the mini iso is more for a "network install" kind of thing.. small installation media, downloading packages from the network for the installation
[01:57] <Char|ie> So there should be no problem?
[01:58] <Char|ie> so I made a premature assessment. There is no cd drive
[01:59] <Char|ie> Put it on a usb drive?
[01:59] <holstein> !install
[02:01] <xubuntu146> Why is printer installation such a pain?
[02:01] <holstein> xubuntu146: if you are not given linux support, it can be near impossible..
[02:02] <Char|ie> Get mac. lol.
[02:02] <holstein> Char|ie: actually, you "need" to get hardware that supports the operating system you are using.. if thats apple's, OSX, then, your hardware had better support osx
[02:03] <Char|ie> I have an old ACER aspire One IM trying to slap nix on it.
[02:03] <Char|ie> But from what Im typing on now, is a mac
[02:03] <Char|ie> so its gonna take some googling. :/
[02:04] <meek_geek> guys why is there 30 MB of download when i did apt-get update
[02:04] <Char|ie> Its been awhile since ive used slackware but I do remember xubuntu and think its a good time to try it out.
[02:04] <meek_geek> whereas its so much less in debian
[02:04] <holstein> Char|ie: i literally download the normal xubuntu iso.. (there is not minimal xubuntu iso) and i make a live USB stick using the instructions i gave above.. i set the bios to boot the USB and install
[02:04] <meek_geek> I want to know why is sources.list so much complex in Ubuntu ?
[02:05] <holstein> meek_geek: the sources are different..
[02:05] <holstein> meek_geek: if you have not messed with them, they will be stock.. if you add ppa's, you will get more
[02:06] <meek_geek> holstein, but apt-get update is like 30 MB man!! there has to be something wrong with sources.list cuz in debian its so much less updates in secs
[02:06] <xubuntu146> holstein: The thing is the driver is supplied, I installed the LPR and CUPSWrapper drivers, installed lib32stdc++6, but even then the network printer isn't reachable.
[02:06] <meek_geek> I just install 14.04 holstein and apt-get update is scary
[02:06] <holstein> meek_geek: if there are 30mb's worth of updates, thats what will come in.. if less, less.. if more, more
[02:07] <meek_geek> holstein, no no I m not talking about the upgrade!! I am talking about apt-get update !!
[02:07] <holstein> xubuntu146: i plug in the device, and get it working there
[02:07] <meek_geek> just to update the repo it is like 30 MB of data !!
[02:07] <holstein> meek_geek: sure.. if there are 30mb's to update, thats what it will be
[02:08] <meek_geek> holstein, I think I need to refine the sources.list then ; I don't use any of the non-free apps except flashplayer ; can you help me refine the list ?
[02:08] <Char|ie> holstein, the lists doesnt have guides for setting up a bootable USB drive using a mac
[02:08] <Char|ie> Which the computer IM trying to install onto, is a PC
[02:08] <meek_geek> i use non-free linux firmware but that comes pre-loaded with the kernel itself ; so no worries
[02:08] <holstein> meek_geek: sure. i say, just list them out.. but, you can also just disable them all and run your own, or maintain updates manually..
[02:09] <holstein> Char|ie: i use unetbootin, friend.. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[02:09] <meek_geek> holstein, no I would refine the list i guess
[02:10] <holstein> meek_geek: sure.. list your sources.. though, im unclear what the issue is, if they are the default ones..
[02:11] <meek_geek> my issue is that why does apt-get update take 4 times the time it takes in comparison to Debian default
[02:11] <holstein> Char|ie: you can dd copy the iso's to usb sticks as well..
[02:11] <holstein> meek_geek: ubuntu is not debian, friend
[02:11] <meek_geek> holstein, but still ubuntu is meant to be faster ain't it ?
[02:11] <holstein> meek_geek: i have not read that.. and that is not promised anywhere..
[02:12] <Char|ie> Ubuntu is just meant to be more "user-friendly"
[02:12] <holstein> meek_geek: id say, its comparable.. but, ubuntu is not debian, and not meant to imitate it
[02:13] <holstein> debian running xfce vs xubuntu are actually likely quite similar in feel and speed.. but, the package repositories are differnt and maintained differently.. ubuntu doesnt use debian sources.. i dont think its a good idea to use any operating system, and disable or edit the main sources for official updates, and expect a "good" experience
[02:13] <Char|ie> could you point me in the right direction, what kidn of dd guide am I supposed to look for?
[02:14] <meek_geek> holstein, why does Ubuntu have restricted / multiverse / universe all repos by default ?
[02:14] <holstein> Char|ie: i offed 2 suggestions that i have used from apple's operating system osx while making live USB to boot ubuntu.. dd was one.. the other was unetbootin
[02:15] <holstein> meek_geek: if you want access to those drivers, you'll enable those.. you can disable what you like.. but, if you are using software from there, you would like to take the updates, likely..
[02:19] <meek_geek> holstein, i just want main and multiverse ( due to flash player )
[02:19] <holstein> meek_geek: use what you like..
[02:19] <meek_geek> holstein, the only non-free packages i use on gnu+linux system is non-free firmware linux and flashplayer
[02:19] <meek_geek> now what all repo should i keep ?
[02:20] <holstein> meek_geek: i have already suggested just keeping the defaults.. if you dont want to, you can keep what you like
[02:21] <meek_geek> holstein, just help me instead ; what all repos are required if i were to use just main repo + security updates ?
[02:22] <holstein> meek_geek: none are "required".. keep literally the ones you want, friend. i suggest leaving the defaults
[02:22] <holstein> meek_geek: if you want just the makin and security, do it..
[02:24] <meek_geek> holstein, What is the difference between restricted and multiverse and universe ?
[02:25] <holstein> meek_geek: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[02:26] <meek_geek> ok
[02:26] <meek_geek> reading
[02:34] <meek_geek> holstein, maybe you are right because ubuntu has a wide set of stuff it already uses
[02:52] <snuggyfoo> Hi. When I install a proprietary ATI driver (fglrx) the Xubuntu loading logo freezes. When I select (fglrx-updates) I get a black screen.
[02:52] <snuggyfoo> Where is the log located to diagnose what is going on?
[02:53] <snuggyfoo> Is it var/log/lightdm?
[02:53] <snuggyfoo> x-0
[02:53] <snuggyfoo> any help would be fantastic
[03:26] <xubuntu634> Hi, I wiped my hard drive empty and installed my copy of Windows 8 and then upgraded to Windows 8.1. I've finally got it updated and all the software I need on it installed, so I grabbed my Xubuntu 14.04 disc so I could put my default operating system of on the machine too, dual boot 8.1 and Xubuntu. However it doesn't have a ''install along side Windows 8.1'' option like I was expecting but when I select ''something else'' it see
[03:26] <yoLo_> ok now i have installed a fresh copy of ubuntu
[03:27] <yoLo_> xubuntu*
[03:27] <holstein> xubuntu634: i would just manually shrink, and use the empty space
[03:27] <yoLo_> what is the best way to update ?
[03:27] <holstein> yoLo_: i use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[03:27] <xubuntu634> I have the empty space, I'm just not sure how to partition it.
[03:27] <xubuntu634> Root, swap and home?
[03:28] <holstein> !partitioning
[03:28] <holstein> xubuntu634: i use the defaults
[03:28] <yoLo_> hopefully no errors or crashes this time
[03:28] <xubuntu634> Thanks, you guys rock :)
[03:28] <yoLo_> just to to be safe i'll shutdown xchat
[03:29] <holstein> yoLo_: ?
[03:29] <holstein> yoLo_: if an updated package broke support before, it likely will again.. what is the issue?
[03:29] <yoLo_> i have had some serious errors and crashes right after installing xubuntu..
[03:30] <yoLo_> probably corrupted iso
[03:30] <cfhowlett> yoLo_ if so, get a clean ISO, verify integrity, burn a USB, verify it and install.
[03:31] <yoLo_> i have just done that...
[03:31] <yoLo_> now i'm going to try the update again
[03:31] <holstein> yoLo_: ok.. go for it.. sounds right to me
[03:31] <cfhowlett> yoLo_ "probably corrupted iso" ...
[03:31] <yoLo_> brb
[03:34] <xubuntu634> Yep, I'm set. Thanks again
[03:59] <SamwiseGamgee>  I just installed xubuntu 14.04
[04:00] <SamwiseGamgee> and I am having trouble with a panel...I cannot move it
[04:00] <SamwiseGamgee> I just created a panel, but I cannot move it
[04:00] <SamwiseGamgee> I need help from this room, because the help menu does not resolve the issue
[04:01] <SamwiseGamgee> Oh God, what did I get myself into.  Does anyone here know how to use xubuntu?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !patience|SamwiseGamgee
[04:02] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[04:02] <SamwiseGamgee> Which one has the best tutorials?
[04:04] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#Restore_your_Xfce_panel_settings
[04:04] <snuggyfoo> Hey SamwiseGamgee, you might be interested in Docky. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=docky&t=canonical
[04:04] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels#Restore_your_Xfce_panel_settings
[04:05] <SamwiseGamgee> Anyway, I right clicked on the panel, then found ---> Move and I left clicked on that, and then a page with an arrow on the top left and a hand appeared but that doesn't move anything: I tried all kiinds of combinations of left and right clicking using that page witht the hand and nothing works
[04:06] <SamwiseGamgee> It looks like once you create a new panel, it is impossible to move it using your mouse.  There must be another way to move the panel without using your mouse.  Do you have any ideas?
[04:07] <snuggyfoo> Have you made sure it is unlocked?
[04:07] <SamwiseGamgee> I don't want to restore my panel settings.  I like the panel: I just don''t like where it is located
[04:07] <SamwiseGamgee> How do you unlock it?
[04:07] <snuggyfoo> Right click > panel > panel preferences > "lock panel"
[04:07] <snuggyfoo> uncheck it
[04:08] <SamwiseGamgee> It's already unchecked: it is not locked
[04:08] <SamwiseGamgee> But it refuses to move no matter what I do with the mouse
[04:08] <SamwiseGamgee> There must be  a way to move it without using the mouse
[04:09] <snuggyfoo> Where are you trying to move it? The "move" in the right click menu is not for the panel itself
[04:09] <SamwiseGamgee> Yeah, it must be for moving sth else
[04:09] <SamwiseGamgee> I am trying to move it to the other side of my desktop
[04:09] <snuggyfoo> It's for moving the items in the panel, such as the clock
[04:10] <SamwiseGamgee> it is near the top right of my desktop, and I want to move it to the bottom left of my desktop
[04:10] <snuggyfoo> The only way to move it that I am aware of is going into panel preferences where you saw the "Lock panel" check box and changing the "Mode"
[04:10] <SamwiseGamgee> the panel I created
[04:10] <SamwiseGamgee> Oh, it moved
[04:11] <SamwiseGamgee> I had to left click on the far left side of the panel
[04:11] <SamwiseGamgee> and hold it while moving my mouse
[04:11] <snuggyfoo> Oh that's right, when it's unlcoked you can move it from the edges
[04:11] <snuggyfoo> :)
[04:11] <SamwiseGamgee> yes, I used the left edge, thanks
[04:11] <snuggyfoo> No prob
[04:14] <xubuntu656> Could someone please help me get my Brother MFC-7360N laser printer installed? I've been trying for over 6 hours now and going crazy.
[04:14] <SamwiseGamgee> in the terminal window, what command do I type in to get only the basic information about the date, my PC, my OS description, the release, and Codename?
[04:15] <SamwiseGamgee> the command is something like, uname -a or something like that....what is the correct command for that?
[04:15] <xubuntu656> SamwiseGamgee: uname -a; date
[04:17] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks
[04:17] <xubuntu656> SamwiseGamgee: sure, if you want the date first just switch it around with date; uname -a
[04:17] <xubuntu656> So could anyone help out with the network printer installation issue I'm having?
[04:23] <SamwiseGamgee> What do all these numbers mean?  ... Linux scoop 3.13.0-30-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 9 22:45:01 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:25] <SamwiseGamgee> Most important, the numbers x86_64, that means the type of PC and processor I have?
[04:25] <SamwiseGamgee> What does GNU/Linux mean?
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !gnu
[04:26] <cfhowlett> !linux
[04:26] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, that totally makes sense, thanks
[04:27] <xubuntu656> SamwiseGamgee: The 3.13.0-30 is your kernel version
[04:27] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, excellent
[04:27] <xubuntu656> x86_64 means you have a 64-bit version of the OS installed
[04:27] <SamwiseGamgee> that's what I want
[04:28] <SamwiseGamgee> good
[04:28] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks so much
[04:28] <xubuntu656> Yeo
[04:28] <xubuntu656> Yep*
[04:29] <xubuntu656> SamwiseGamgee: And scoop is your computer's name (hostname)
[04:29] <SamwiseGamgee> Yeah, that's what I thought
[04:33] <SamwiseGamgee> What is the name of my operating system?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> SamwiseGamgee run a terminal        cat /etc/issue
[04:34] <SamwiseGamgee> I figure my OS is either called 'xubuntu' or it's called linux, or may be ubuntu, who knows
[04:35] <cfhowlett> good guess - OR you could run the command and learn some details          cat /etc/issue
[04:35] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, I'll try it
[04:37] <SamwiseGamgee> I ran that command, cfhowlett, and this is what I got...Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[04:38] <SamwiseGamgee> What do the slash n slash L mean in that text?
[04:39] <SamwiseGamgee> I'm not even sure if that is the letter 'L' because it is a strange character for lowercase 'L'
[04:42] <SamwiseGamgee> Anyway, I appreciate your help...I got what I need...I learned that my OS is called Ubuntu 14.04 LTS....that is the only information I need now...thanks
[04:43] <SamwiseGamgee> What it be correct to say that xubuntu is the version of Ubuntu 14.04 that my system is running?
[04:53] <xubuntu697> Hello! Anyone listening?
[04:54] <snuggyfoo> I'm trying to use fglrx (proprietary driver). When I install it and reboot it hangs at the splash screen.  Anyone know what thats about?
[04:56] <xubuntu697> I'm trying to use an Ubuntu 14.04 live CD to get some files off of a failed ubuntu disk. When I load the live CD it sees the files that I need to transfer, but will not let me copy and paste the files. Any suggestions?
[04:59] <itsMATT> Right click on the desktop icon, ''Mount Volume'' and then right click again and select the ''Permissions'' tab and change Access to ''Read and Write''?
[05:02] <xubuntu697> already tried that. Doesn't work. Says that I do not own the rights to this file system.
[05:03] <xubuntu697> Should I use a different OS live CD to try this?
[05:03] <itsMATT> sorry then. was a shot in the dark
[05:04] <itsMATT> I don't know, someone else probably does though. Shouldn't hurt trying however
[05:06] <xubuntu697> Tomorrow I'll try using LM Cinnemon live CD. I read that Windows users use ubuntu live CDs to do this very thing and are successful.
[05:07] <itsMATT> I use my Linux Mint disc for just that. It should work, good luck
[05:08] <xubuntu697> Thanks. Have a good night.
[05:08] <itsMATT> You too
[05:50] <snuggyfoo> I installed fglrx and it didn't work (black screen). So I uninstalled it and now I get the lightdm greeter but when I login it just comes back
[05:50] <snuggyfoo> Any ideas?
[05:50] <snuggyfoo> I can login as guest just fine
[06:04] <SamwiseGamgee> Hey guys, where is the best website for live streaming sports using xubuntu?
[06:06] <SamwiseGamgee> I tried Wiziwig.tv to watch Wimbledon live, and it's working, but it was designed for Windows and I can't get rid of the annoying advertising covering the centre of the viewing screen
[06:10] <snuggyfoofy> SamwiseGamgee, look into using a program called wine (allows you to run windows programs in linux)
[06:10] <snuggyfoofy> I use it to run netflix and it works well
[06:10] <snuggyfoofy> You install a browser such as firefox using "wine firefox-installer-whatever.exe" in terminal
[06:11] <snuggyfoofy> and it install like a windows program and it should allow you to run firefox as if you were in windows
[06:12] <SamwiseGamgee> I don't really like Wine, because it works but I kept accidentally executing windows-executable files from my downloads folder when I was moving files around
[06:12] <SamwiseGamgee> Can I avoid that problem by running PlayOnLinux instead of Wine?
[06:13] <SamwiseGamgee> What about Add Block Plus, is that something I can install on Ubuntu?
[06:14] <SamwiseGamgee> or is there an app similar to that that automatically blocks ads when you run Firefox on Ubuntu?
[06:16] <xangua> tools-addons-search adblock plus
[06:18] <snuggyfoofy> Addons that work for Firefox work on any distro
[06:18] <snuggyfoofy> Windows, Linux, Mac, ...
[06:19] <baizon> SamwiseGamgee: have you tried adblock ?
[06:19] <SamwiseGamgee>  I found Ad Block Plus 2.6.3 on my Firefox Add on Menu, but is it okay to install it directly from there, or should I go to my xubuntu software centre, and do it from there?
[06:19] <baizon> SamwiseGamgee: use the firefox menu
[06:20] <SamwiseGamgee> ok
[06:28] <SamwiseGamgee> it worked
[06:29] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks
[07:03] <xubuntu144> Anyone know what the search url is for google? I add it based on testing a search, yet it doesn't seem to work for the whisker-menu.
[11:34] <SamWiseGamgee> I'm using xubuntu 14.04 and just successfully installed Pipelight, flash, wine-pipelight, viewright-caiway, vizzedrgr, and unity3d, so I can run Netflix on Firefox, but which is the best User Agent Switcher extension for Firefox, what is the full name?
[11:41] <SamWiseGamgee> How do I install Google Chrome onto xubuntu 14.04?
[11:42] <cubed_root> SamWiseGamgee: have you tried the ubuntu software center?
[11:43] <SamWiseGamgee> How do I find that, I don't see it anywhere?
[11:43] <SamWiseGamgee> Oh yeah, I see it now
[11:43] <`Fibz> SamWiseGamgee, yes, just go to google and download chrome from them, then it should install through Ubuntu Software Center by double clicking the file you downloaded
[11:44] <`Fibz> the Chrome in the repo is the Chromium project and not mainstream Chrome (which comes from google)
[11:44] <SamWiseGamgee> Was I supposed to install Chrome before I installed all that Pipelight and wine stuff I just mentioned?
[11:45] <`Fibz> chrome is fro linux., you didnt need any oth that unless you really wanted to run the windows version 9no reason to do that)
[11:45] <SamWiseGamgee> But I want to run NetFlix
[11:45] <`Fibz> i forgot
[11:45]  * `Fibz wanders off
[11:46] <SamWiseGamgee> Hence, I probably need Google Chrome instead of Chromium project, right?
[11:46] <`Fibz> like i said, go to google, download chrome (yes they make it for linux too)
[11:47] <`Fibz> https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/
[11:48] <SamWiseGamgee> How can I check if I have Wine installed?
[11:48] <SamWiseGamgee> And if I have Wine, should I install Chrome for Windows?
[11:50] <`Fibz> no
[11:50] <SamWiseGamgee> ok
[11:51] <`Fibz> wine will be in your application's menu listed under wine if installed
[11:51] <SamWiseGamgee> I just downloaded it
[11:51] <SamWiseGamgee> Chrome for Debian
[11:52] <SamWiseGamgee> Now should I open or save it?
[11:52] <`Fibz> i usually save just so i dont have to download again if something goes wrong
[12:01] <bluesabre> ftr, none of those plugins will work with Chrome or Chromium, they no longer support NPAPI plugins
[12:02] <bluesabre> Chrome supports Flash in linux, and that's pretty much the extent of it
[12:02] <bluesabre> firefox, midori, and perhaps epiphany still support NPAPI plugins
[12:58] <needHalp> is it possible to get the panel to the right hand side of the screen?
[12:59] <deshipu> needHalp: yes
[13:01] <needHalp> ok, just figured out how... thanks
[13:40] <mmazing> for some reason i cannot get my laptop to shutdown/reboot without it trying to go into suspend and screwing up, then i have to just hold the power button down
[13:40] <knome> mmazing, did you read the release notes?
[13:40] <mmazing> even "sudo reboot -h now" just tries to go into some weird suspend
[13:40] <mmazing> knome: no, sorry, is there something in there related to this?
[13:40] <knome> yes..
[13:41] <mmazing> knome: well, i've googled this several times, so it's not like i didn't try to find info first :)
[13:42] <knome> tip: always check the official website first
[13:43] <knome> we always post the release announcements and notes there as well as more information on many things
[13:43] <mmazing> knome: still not seeing notes on the specific problem i am referring to, i see issues with resuming from suspend but nothing about being unable to shutdown or reboot
[13:44] <knome> it's most probably related though
[13:56] <mmazing> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1259339 seems like it may be related, but none of the comments talk about being unable to shutdown or reboot
[19:58] <orangerobot>  hi I'm having an issue on xubuntu 14.04 which I think is fairly common. After logging in, the screen gets blocked after a few minutes idle. When I come back and try to unblock the screen using any user EXCEPT Guest, I get into a redirect loop
[19:58] <orangerobot> any quick solutions or links I could look at to solve this?
[19:59] <Hedgework> orangerobot: I haven't run into that, sorry.
[19:59] <pleia2> I haven't either, what makes you think it's fairly common?
[19:59] <Hedgework> This doesn't mean it's not a common problem...I don't use the default window manager or the default screen saver / screen lock application and have customized my acpi settings somewhat, so I'm probably an outlier.
[20:00] <orangerobot> I've seen some people mentioning this after googling a little bit
[20:01] <orangerobot> it's a clean install, I've just installed xubuntu-desktop ' --no-install-recommends' over a clean ubuntu 14.04 box
[20:02] <orangerobot> i've seen some people say it may be something to do with  permission on the user's home directory
[20:02] <orangerobot> but not very specific instructions
[20:02] <orangerobot> xsession-errors says "openConnection: connect: No such file or directory cannot connect to brltty at :0"
[20:02] <orangerobot> in case it helps
[20:09] <orangerobot> This issue only happens when I have to unlock my screen after a few minutes idle. For normal logins (i.e. right after booting up) it works ok
[20:10] <orangerobot> incidentally, I've set LOCK_SCREEN=false in /etc/default/acpi-support to disable screen locking
[20:10] <orangerobot> But it didn't work. Screen still blocks after a few minutes
[20:10] <orangerobot> is this the right way to disable it?
[20:31] <xubuntu897> cześć. podczas instalacji Xubuntu zasugerowani mi, abym w razie czegoś komunikował się przez tego IRC-a
[20:31] <xubuntu897> to jest normalne, że nie widzę paska zadań i tak dalej
[20:31] <xubuntu897> ?
[20:31] <knome> !pl | xubuntu897
[20:32] <xubuntu897> Przepraszam najmocniej. Dziękuję za nakierowanie mnie na polski kanał. Trzymajcie się.
[20:33] <knome> btw, i don't understand polish.
[20:34] <xubuntu897> knome:  ok, I was just thinking that, here are some Poles. hold on. :)
[20:34] <knome> yeah, but as the factoid said, this channel is english only, even if there were polish people in here.
[20:58] <xubuntu098> Is there a way to get the numpad enter key to act the same as the regular enter key (launching the program of a search in whisker-menu)
[21:32] <Cybi> Hello all :)
[21:33] <Cybi> I was wondering, what is the name of the default Xubuntu 14.04 window manager? And how to switch it? I'm experiencing a lot of graphic bugs with compiz and i absolutly want to switch back to the default window manager
[21:34] <EugeneBandit> xfwm4 ?
[21:34] <EugeneBandit> part of xfce4
[21:35] <Cybi> Thanks :) So how i can switch back to it and uninstall compiz?
[21:36] <EugeneBandit> don't really know, you'd better check the internet for that
[21:36] <EugeneBandit> web* actually
[21:36] <Cybi> hm...
[21:37] <Cybi> i know that for compiz i have to do "compiz --replace" but you dont know for xfwm4?
[21:37] <Cybi> ok i'll search on the web
[21:37] <Cybi> anyway, thank you
[21:38] <EugeneBandit> xfwm4 --replace does exist
[21:38] <Cybi> ok thanks :)
[21:56] <xubuntu786> is any one having trouble updatinh 14.04?please
[21:56] <xubuntu786> updating even
[21:56] <knome> xubuntu786, why don't you ask the real question you have and find out if anybody can help with it
[21:57] <xubuntu786> because I do not know if it is a general problem or just my puter
[21:58] <Unit193> Well, what's the problem?  Error output?
[21:58] <xubuntu786> says no headers
[22:01] <xubuntu786> I booted up another puter I have with mint 17 mate on it and it has similar problems which makes me think it may be ubuntu update problem
[22:02] <xubuntu786> has any one else had any similar problems please?
[22:02] <Unit193> What mirror are you using?
[22:04] <xubuntu786> no idea,what ever I used before that worked,I also tried sudo apt-get update and got the same answer
[22:05] <xubuntu786> in software &updaytes it says server for the Unjted Kingdom
[22:05] <xubuntu786> updates even
[22:05] <xubuntu786> United Kingdom
[22:06] <Unit193> Well I can tell you this, I've updated 4 computers as we've been talking, and one was using the http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com mirror.
[22:07] <xubuntu786> so nontu problem then
[22:08] <xubuntu786> so no ubuntu problem then
[22:08] <xubuntu786> I will try the mirrior you are using
[22:10] <Unit193> You could even use  deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/GB.txt  I've tried it out.
[22:13] <xubuntu786> Failed to load package list
[22:16] <xubuntu786> Reading package lists... Error!
[22:16] <xubuntu786> : Encountered a section with no Package: header
[22:17] <xubuntu786> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_
[22:17] <xubuntu786> _non-free_i18n_Translation-en
[22:17] <xubuntu786>  The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. nico@silentatom:~$
[22:17] <knome> xubuntu786, please do not paste multiple lines to the channel
[22:17] <xubuntu786> This what my terminal shows
[22:20] <xubuntu786> Ie tried uiest server but it load
[22:22] <knome> you don't have a problem with the ubuntu servers, you have a problem with a repository that's supposed to offer you spotify
[22:46] <Cybi> Hello :)
[22:46] <Cybi> I have a little problem in Xfce with Xubuntu 14.04
[22:47] <Cybi> In the parameter, i set 4 workspace
[22:47] <Cybi> But, each time i reboot, Xfce reset the number of workspaces to one
[22:47] <Cybi> Someone have an idea of way to fix it?
[23:08] <Cybi> Nobody have an idea?
[23:13] <starrats> Cybi, asking you a dumb question, are you using the settings manager to manage your 4 workstations.  I have 4 and once they were set they never went away.
[23:13] <Cybi> Yes i am ...
[23:14] <Cybi> But i found someone in the same situation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/42331/xubuntu-keeps-resetting-workspace-count-to-1
[23:18] <Cybi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/787934
[23:18] <Cybi> YEp
[23:21] <Cybi> I cant find a fix...
[23:25] <knome> well, that happens, answers are not always available
[23:26] <knome> there's a workaround in the bug that runs a command to up the workspaces to X on every boot