[22:37] <R2LM> witriew: I thought I remember reading that Grub can be configured to boot a CD--have you checked that out?
[22:37] <unop> StephenZ, are you sure you entered the right filename?
[22:37] <StephenZ> fstab, right?
[22:37] <aguyhere> hi, how can assign a firefox mouse button (thumb button).  I searched and only found out of date stuff
[22:37] <StephenZ> Huh. This time it worked.
[22:37] <unop> StephenZ, not just fstab tho, it has to be /etc/fstab
[22:37] <witriew> R2LM: you would need to configure isolinux to load grub, and then use grub to load isolinux
[22:37] <StephenZ> Yeah, I did that properly.
[22:37] <StephenZ> But apparently I missed a letter; this one worked.
[22:37] <witriew> R2LM: and that's far too convoluted since ubuntu/suse use isolinux+gfxboot without the grub
[22:38] <mikonos> hola
[22:38] <mikonos> hello
[22:38] <joaopinto> !es | mikonos
[22:38] <R2LM> witriew: Gee the recursion makes my head spin. :) Good luck with finding a solution to your problem. :)
[22:38] <witriew> R2LM: and the documentation for gfxboot isn't thorough enough to provide me with details on how construction of a gfxboot file works
[22:39] <witriew> R2LM: thanks, i hope you find a solution to yours too
[22:39] <StephenZ> Thanks, all.
[22:39] <aguyhere> anyone? assign a mouse key for firefox??
[22:39] <arooni-mobile> on my t61; an integrated 915 intel audio running hardy..... sometimes the audio just dies... and stops working..... usually i have to restart to fix;  is there another fix? '
[22:40] <britt> hello--are there any new bugs between nvidia_new and GLX? I'm getting 40FPS in glxgears when I can get 1400+ on the same computer on Fedora (yuck!)
[22:40] <tyberion> is there any guide on how to install java for firefox.. im having trouble with it:(
[22:40] <kbrosnan> aguyhere: what do you want the thumb button to do?
[22:40] <Paddy_EIRE> arooni-mobile, have you checked launchpad for known bugs?
[22:40] <Paddy_EIRE> arooni-mobile, or the ubuntu forums
[22:41] <kbrosnan> tyberion: version of ubuntu, x64 or i686?
[22:41] <aguyhere> hi kbrosnan, i want to assign the thumb key to "back-page"
[22:41] <tyberion> kbrosnan: hurm, i386 i guess?
[22:41] <Paddy_EIRE> aguyhere, just google five button mouse ubuntu
[22:41] <tyberion> kbrosnan: well no 64 :D
[22:41] <Paddy_EIRE> aguyhere, very easy setup
[22:41] <kbrosnan> aguyhere: xorg.conf, more details in a sec
[22:42] <kbrosnan> tyberion: there is no java plugin for x64 afik
[22:42] <tim__b> so, pidgin is telling me that my version is to old to connect, but there's no new version in the backports. any idea how to trick pidgin (to get it to connect anyway)?
[22:42] <arooni-mobile> Paddy_EIRE, i googled; couldnt find much specific for hardy
[22:42] <tyberion> kbrosnan: well I dont run x64 afaik
[22:42] <aguyhere> ok thank kb
[22:42] <Paddy_EIRE> arooni-mobile, err the very first page in the huge list of results perhaps https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[22:42] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[22:42] <tyberion> kbrosnan: and how do I run java apps in firefox then , hm
[22:42] <unop> aguyhere, this could help too - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[22:43] <kbrosnan> aguyhere: also see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=420294
[22:43] <aguyhere> thanks unop and kb, i will study those :)
[22:44] <kbrosnan> tyberion: to check x64/i686 run the command uname -a
[22:45] <quio> Hello.  I have Been using Ubuntu for a few years now and am curently using 7.10 Gutsy.  I have a Dell 510 that has run this without a problem for a while.  All of a sudden however when I boot up into Ubuntu my Wireless card light will not go on.  It does if I switch hard drives and use XP however.  Any suggestions please?
[22:45] <Lunar_Lamp> quio: does the wireless card work, but hte light just not come on?
[22:45] <Petskull> Help! How do I erase my iPod?
[22:46] <ASULutzy> Petskull: sudo apt-get install gtkpod
[22:46] <Gromit_> microwave!
[22:46] <ASULutzy> quio: I installed Intrepid last night and I had something similar happened. Intrepid found drivers for my wireless out of the box, but my light stayed off
 The card works fine.  I think somehow it got turned off.  If you hit the windows key and the wireless f2 button it should go on but it doesn't.
[22:47] <Petskull> I installed from .debs
[22:47] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod
[22:47] <Petskull> ... but rythmbox now lists nothing in my ipod
[22:47] <xczsacsz> hey guys i am back (though who remember me)
[22:47] <ASULutzy> Petskull: Just open a terminal and type gtkpod
[22:47] <xczsacsz> I still have the same problem though
[22:47] <Lunar_Lamp> quio: so the problem is solely with the light? I had a card that had lights that acted differently under linux - that is, the light being on/off displayed different things. e.g. it was one when receiving data, so it would flicker when in use rather than just be on when the card was activated.
[22:47] <Petskull> in nautilus, I can see lots of mp3s in /media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music
[22:48] <Petskull> ... but I'm concerned that deleting them will mess up my iPod
[22:48] <regeya> shoot, I forgot to post on the forums my experiences getting stuff working great with my sansa fuze. :-?
[22:48] <psycose> I'm looking for a gcc-4.3 for Ubuntu hardy i386, seems that gcc-snapshot does it, but apt also want to install lot's of *amd64 packages, my auestion is why ? thanks
[22:48]  * regeya does that
Like now the light should be on but I don't know how to get it activated while in Ubuntu.  I can't connect with the wireless either.  When I switch Hard drives and boot from XP it comes on and works right away.
[22:48] <ASULutzy> Petskull: Don't delete the files from there. Run gtkpod. it's got a great interface for managing your ipod.
[22:48] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, no it wont.. it will wipe it.. then on next power on the folders are recreated to defaults
[22:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Ah, so the card fails to work? Right, so the issue is probably not with the light per se.
[22:49] <Hybrid666`> hi
[22:49] <xczsacsz> i installed ubuntu and i cant set my visual effects to the bottom selection from three
[22:49] <Petskull> I got gtkpod
[22:49] <xczsacsz> it says i need a restricted driver
[22:49] <Petskull> it doesn't recognize my ipod
[22:49] <xczsacsz> i have a Nvidia Ge force 7500le
[22:49] <Hybrid666`> ive installed ubuntu, it also sayd it installs grub, but no grub popps up at startup. ive installed it on the first HDD drive, so MBR should have been written correctly.
[22:49] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, if you have the new nano (a1236) then you will have a hard time with getting it to work
  I think so.  This happened once before and then all of a sudden it came back on while in Ubuntu.   I don't know what I did.
[22:49] <Lunar_Lamp> Petskull: system>administration>restricted driver
[22:49] <Petskull> uh oh
[22:49] <Hybrid666`> why doesnt it work?
[22:50] <Petskull> I do have it
[22:50] <Sylphid|work> anyone know of an app that will open a notification in Xwindows on an ssh login
[22:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, well it will still recreate the folders
[22:50] <Petskull> what do I do?
[22:50] <Petskull> delte all the folders in /media/IPOD/iPod_Control/Music
[22:50] <Petskull> ?
[22:50] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, it will just be nightmarish getting it to work on linux
[22:50] <xczsacsz> i cant connect to the internet either cause it doesnt alow me to install my wireless modem
[22:51] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, I use windows 2000 in a vm for my ipods
[22:51] <xczsacsz> can anyone help me....?
[22:51] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: ? is your hardware supported?
[22:51] <hustle> does anyone know, how can I check the GPU clock on a T60 Thinkpad with Ubuntu 8.04.
[22:51] <Hybrid666`> ive installed ubuntu, it also sayd it installs grub, but no grub popps up at startup. ive installed it on the first HDD drive, so MBR should have been written correctly.
[22:51] <Petskull> I'm seeing an empty iPod on gtkpod
[22:51] <xczsacsz> it picks up my graphics card as nvidia_new
[22:51] <Hybrid666`> but it doesnt show up
[22:52] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, it would be wise to erase those folders anyway to give you a fresh slate
[22:52] <SpookyET> Hi. Where can I find the list of packages installed on default Ubuntu installation? I'd like to compare it with my current installation. Thanks.
[22:52] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: i mean your wireless modem:)
[22:53] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, read the ipod nano part of this guide people have had much success with it http://lilserenity.wordpress.com/2007/12/22/virgin-mobile-praise-ubuntu-and-ipod-nano-3g/
[22:53] <Petskull> oh- I saw this
[22:53] <Petskull> I'll delete it and pray
[22:53] <Hybrid666`> ive installed ubuntu a few mins ago, but on boot, grub doesnt show up, ive installed it on the primary hard drive @ sda3...what have i done wrong?
[22:53] <xczsacsz> i have no idead wolfySI
[22:53] <linkslice> anyone in here running zimbra zcs on 8.04?
[22:54] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: 'dmesg | less' and see what your kernel recognizes
[22:54] <wolfeySI> or what is in /dev/eth0 /dev/eth1 ?
[22:54] <xczsacsz> i dont know how to do that.. and i am not on ubuntu at the moment
[22:54] <moo_cow> would anybody mind putting their ubuntu /etc/profile on a pastebin? im trying to setup sudo in another distro
[22:55] <arooni-mobile> can i simply remove pulseaudoi  its giving me problmes
[22:55] <wolfeySI> i told you commands xczsacsz
[22:55] <hustle> does anyone know, how can I check the GPU clock on a T60 Thinkpad with Ubuntu 8.04.
[22:55] <manchicken> I'm having a really hard time getting my centro to sync with evolution.
[22:55] <Hybrid666`> hustle look @ /proc
[22:55] <hustle> thanks 4 help
[22:55] <gordonjcp> gaaaaah pulseaudio!
[22:55] <hustle> ok
[22:55] <gordonjcp> DIE!
[22:55] <Hybrid666`> somewhere in /proc it may be
[22:55] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: another thing if you dont have option to use wireless in gnome network manager, it is probably cause it is listed as 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces and Gnome Network Manager leaves that alone
[22:55] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: it's confusing thing :)
[22:56] <hustle> Hybrid666`:  i found cpuinfo
[22:56] <hustle> but not somethink like gpuinfo
[22:56] <danidfg_> xczsacsz try ndisgtk and install an win driver for yor wireless
[22:56] <gordonjcp> how on earth can I stop pulseaudio from getting in my way?
[22:56] <moo_cow> i need an ubuntu /etc/profile. someone please paste here http://codepad.org/
[22:56] <xczsacsz> yeah it is very confusing
[22:56] <hustle> i have already looked there
[22:56] <wolfeySI> moo_cow: a moment
[22:56] <gordonjcp> should I just upgrade to gutsy?
[22:56] <xczsacsz> i myt aswel create the operating system haha
[22:56] <wolfeySI> moo_cow: http://www.wolfey.si/tmp/profile mine
[22:57] <moo_cow> wobblywu-> thanks
[22:57] <wolfeySI> moo_cow: /etc/profile
[22:57] <xczsacsz> anyway.. is there a way to download updates for my graphics card off a website for ubuntu with out editing commands in ubuntu just by installing a software package with drivers in them
[22:57] <moo_cow> does ubuntu make every user have the same path???
[22:57] <Lichte> Hi all
[22:57] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: in what sense?
[22:57] <hustle> Hybrid666`: Is it possible that I don't see s.th. because I have an onboard chip (Intel GMA....)
[22:58] <tyberion> Can anyone tell me an easy way how to activate java in firefox? =(
[22:58] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, maybe you should stick with windows
[22:58] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> if you add a new user to an ubuntu system. will it have the same path as the default user
[22:58] <Lichte> Anyone know how to get the MTP plugin to work with Rhythmbox ???
[22:58] <xczsacsz> "restricted Drivers"
[22:58] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, or try envy
[22:58] <tyberion> Or howto make firefox run java applications...?
[22:58] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: yes, of course
[22:58] <simotempler> hi there - anyone know if there is a program for ubuntu which will video me using my desktop to demonstrate something
[22:58] <Slart> is console-kit-daemon important in some way? It just segfaulted on my xubuntu server
[22:59] <kbrosnan> tyberion: i need to be sure you are on i686 you can check x64/i686 run the command uname -a
[22:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy-ng | xczsacsz
[22:59] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> not many distros do that
[22:59] <Lunar_Lamp> xczsacsz: the best way to update your graphics card drive is to open synaptic package manager and check for updates.
[22:59] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy | xczsacsz
[22:59] <tyberion> Linux nutshell 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:43:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:59] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: uhm, what?
[22:59] <moo_cow> give all users the same path
[22:59] <tyberion> kbrosnan: im on i686
[22:59] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: pretty much all distros do that.  Why would different users have different paths by default?
[22:59] <quio> Hello.  I got disconnected before.  Does anyone know how to get Ubuntu to activate my wireless card.  It was working the other day and then as I booted up the wirless light went off as soon as it boots.  If I put an XP hard drive in the light comes on and the wireless works right away.  I was using nm-applet 0.6.5?
[22:59] <SpookyET> If someone has an unmodified installation: aptitude search '.*' | grep '^i'
[22:59] <kbrosnan> tyberion: 8.04?
[22:59] <tyberion> kbrosnan: yep
[22:59] <simotempler> hi there - anyone know if there is a program for ubuntu which will video me using my desktop to demonstrate something
[23:00] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> cause not all distros have sudo setup like ubuntu by default, so commands that need root permissions are not in the path.
[23:00] <psycose> do you know where i could find a gcc-4.3 for ubuntu hardy x86 ? thanks
[23:00] <xczsacsz> so i download envyng?
[23:00] <_empemp_> i have a ubuntu machine with a printer conencted, works fine.   trying to print to it from another ubuntu machine
[23:00] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: hm, I'm not sure I understand
[23:01] <_empemp_> all seems fint, but it won't let the jobs go through
[23:01] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, sudo apt-get install envy-gtk
[23:01] <_empemp_> i worked before and is working fine on the printerside
[23:01] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> ubuntu is different than just about distro by not having a root user by default
[23:01] <wolfeySI> _empemp_: cups must permit connections from local machines i think
[23:01] <hacksilber> hi, using ubuntu 8.04, anyway to disable fast-user-switching?
[23:01] <_empemp_> hmm
[23:01] <_empemp_> how?
[23:01] <wolfeySI> _empemp_: in cups config...
[23:01] <kbrosnan> tyberion: make sure java-gcj-compat-plugin is not installed and install sun-java6-plugin and sun-java6 via synaptic
[23:01] <xczsacsz> what is a sudo?
[23:01] <Lichte> Anyone know how to get the MTP plugin to work with Rhythmbox ???
[23:01] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: yes
[23:01] <_empemp_> i have checked that and made it to allow from the ip adress
[23:02] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> so thats why the paths get set up differently
[23:02] <mib_vbpq3cbt> !botsnack
[23:02] <joebob777as7> i'm trying to tunnel to my cups shared printer at my office. Here is the command i'm running, ssh -L 1234:localhost:631<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when i go add the printer it doesn't show up anywhere how can i figure out the device uri to tupe in cups?
[23:02] <wolfeySI> _empemp_: you use IPP?
[23:02] <gordonjcp> moo_cow: but since you're not supposed to log in as root, that's irrelevant
[23:02] <hacksilber> i only have one user that will ever be logged in at the desktop so there is no reason for me to have fast-user-switching running
[23:02] <hacksilber> can i just uninstall fast-user-switch-applet?
[23:02] <hustle> does anyone know, how can I check the GPU clock on a T60 Thinkpad (Intel GMA / onboard GPU) with Ubuntu 8.04.
[23:03] <gordonjcp> hustle: have a look about in /proc
[23:03] <_empemp_> samba i think?
[23:03] <_empemp_> when i try "verify" i get not accesible
[23:03] <moo_cow> gordonjcp-> actually i think users have to be members of the admin group to perform sudo. therefor their PATHs would be different.
[23:04] <Renu> hi!does anybody knows how to make a tvtunner work in 7.04?i install tvtime for this but i have sound not image
[23:04] <hustle> gordonjcp: yeah, but i didn't find something
[23:04] <wolfeySI> _empemp_: two cups machines can print on eachother by IPP, ipp://ip/printers/printername on client side
[23:04] <xczsacsz> oh well
[23:04] <wolfeySI> that's way more reliable than samba i think
[23:04] <_empemp_> i try that
[23:04] <tyberion> kbrosnan: Thanks alot, that worked=)
[23:04] <xczsacsz> so whats is the best thing to do? remove ubuntu? cause i dont understand it at all
[23:04] <hacksilber> anyone familiar with disabling or uninstalling fast-user-switching in 8.04?
[23:05] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: calm nerves :) i think nobody really understand linux at his first try:)
[23:05] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, spend more than five minutes trying to learn something or remove it
[23:05] <greenfishx3> i have a directory with like 50 folders, 2 of them are write protected (I didnt do it) how do I fix that?
[23:05] <rand0m> wow i'm a complete n00b with ubuntu, i just downloaded & installed last night.. it was easier than shitting.  Absolutely loving the desktop environment.  How the hell can an OS this amazing be free?
[23:05] <hacksilber> if i uninstall fast-user-switch-applet it breaks ubuntu-desktop
[23:05] <rand0m> and why is winblows still mainstream compared to this ?
[23:05] <wolfeySI> xczsacsz: use what you know for now for real work, play with ubuntu in free time
[23:05] <Df_Yz> Hello all. Is there a people, who use Konversation and mpd? :)
[23:05] <Slart> greenfishx3: rightclick on them in nautilus or use the chmod command
[23:05] <joaopinto> greenfishx3, chmod 755 on those folders ?
[23:05] <iceman_> hallo leute ich brauch ma hilfe von nem ubuntu 8.04 prfi
[23:05] <Renu> my tvtime i think that has a bug
[23:05] <wolfeySI> well i didnt understand windows either on first use:)
[23:05] <DrLame> How can I get the Configure button in System->Administration->Network Tools to work? Whenever I select my wireless in the drop down and hit Configure it tells me The Interface Does Not Exist...
[23:05] <Slart> !de | iceman_
[23:06] <wolfeySI> it's just that they teach windows in primary school
[23:06] <wolfeySI> :)
[23:06] <joaopinto> hacksilber, it remove that meta-package, it doesn't break anything
[23:06] <joaopinto> it removes
[23:06] <hacksilber> so it will be ok?
[23:06] <xczsacsz> i just want to get the cube and beryl on ubuntu then i am sorted. Ubuntu will be awesome once i get it together
[23:06] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, you where obviously willing to learn windows or whichever OS you used before, so... why should linux be treated any differently!
[23:07] <greenfishx3> thanks Slart, and joaopinto
[23:07] <hacksilber> joaopinto: it will also remove gnome-system-tools
[23:07] <Slart> greenfishx3: you're welcome
[23:07] <wolfeySI> it's just with linux with every day i know more, with windows with every day i realize i understand nothing:)
[23:07] <jameslavoy> I have an NTFS hard drive that i keep software on and the like, just so happens a windows virus wiped out alot of those exe's and i'd like to scan them, unfortunately i'm running ubuntu now. Is there a way to scan that NTFS drive for windows problems through linux?
[23:08] <xczsacsz> no dude i am not hateing ubuntu i am willing to learn but it is way more advanced and confusing wen  u have problems to fix thats all
[23:08] <joaopinto> jameslavoy, to scan yes, to clean them, no
[23:08] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, if you are just in it for the eye-candy then it is probably not for you
[23:08] <joaopinto> to scan you can use clamav
[23:08] <hacksilber> jameslavoy:  clamav works well
[23:08] <joaopinto> hacksilber, oh, that is a problem :P
[23:08] <Paddy_EIRE> xczsacsz, you wanted to remove it a minute ago
[23:08] <Slart> jameslavoy: there is a virus scanner if problem=virus
[23:08] <Lunar_Lamp> xczsacsz: what is it you're trying to do?
[23:09] <hacksilber> joaopinto: yeah, but i want to disable it so it just isn't running
[23:09] <_empemp_> just get that the printer is not shared
[23:09] <_empemp_> even when it is shared
[23:09] <Paddy_EIRE> brb smoke break
[23:09] <Slart> !info clamtk
[23:09] <xczsacsz> get my graphics card working. it doesnt alow me to put visual effects at its best so i came here for help
[23:09] <Lunar_Lamp> xczsacsz: what is your graphics card model?
[23:09] <hacksilber> joaopinto: bah, it s a bug #185599
[23:10] <xczsacsz> Nvidia Geforce 7500le
[23:10]  * hacksilber sighs
[23:10] <quio> Is there a key combination in Ubuntu to enable the wireless card on a dell latitude 510?
[23:10] <Lunar_Lamp> xczsacsz: and did you install the restricted drivers through system>administration>hardware drivers?
[23:11] <xczsacsz> no i didnt because i cnt connect to my internet through ubuntu my wireless connection doesnt pick up in ubuntu.
[23:11] <Lunar_Lamp> xczsacsz: ok, right, that could be an issue.
[23:11] <Infinito_> jameslavoy,  there's a chance you can recover the deleted .exe's (or any deleted files for that matter).. that's what you want, right ? but I'm no that geek to know how..
[23:11] <jamiejackson> what's the diff between installing extensions via ubuntu's install/remove extensions and doing it through the normal way (installing from install links on ff's extension's site)?
[23:11] <Lunar_Lamp> I would suggest that you want to sort your wireless card first, as Linux is far more enjoyable when you have an internet connection.
[23:12] <xczsacsz> yeah
[23:12] <Lunar_Lamp> Do you know what wifi card you have?
[23:12] <xczsacsz> its a 3G connection
[23:12] <xczsacsz> Desktop PC
[23:13] <linxeh> what is an easy to install and configure, basic IMAP server for me to use at home ?
[23:13] <Lunar_Lamp> Ah, a modem card direct to a mobile phone company?
[23:13] <root> Can anyone help me burn a DVD?
[23:13] <greenfishx3> !iso
[23:13] <Slart> Guest36560: sure.. what kind of dvd
[23:13] <Guest36560> A video DVD
[23:13] <Guest36560> Of Anime
[23:13] <nickrud_> linxeh, fetchmail, procmail, dovecot-imapd
[23:13] <Slart> Guest36560: what kind of movie material do you have?
[23:13] <Guest36560> .avi
[23:14] <Slart> Guest36560: install devede
[23:14] <linxeh> nickrud_: I just want the imap server part - I dont need to retrive mail, I just want something that I can use to manage my mail for a bit :-)
[23:14] <Slart> Guest36560: "sudo apt-get install devede"
[23:14] <linxeh> I'l try dovecot though - thanks
[23:14] <justatheory> Howdy. Might someone be able to help this n00b get something installed on hardy from hardy-backports?
[23:14] <Slart> !info devede
[23:14] <cl0s-home> anybody use Elisa.. media center app?
[23:14] <nickrud_> linxeh, heh. dovecot-imapd is perfect for that
[23:15] <greenfishx3> its too bad its almost impossible to burn a DVD9 (dual layer) in linux, thank god for wine
[23:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !anyone | cl0s-home
[23:15] <Guest36560> Slart: Okay, it's installing
[23:15] <DrLame> Could someone please help me get my internet stable? It keeps failing over and over forcing me to reset each time... I'm pretty sure if I can get on a static IP it could solve the problem.... 'Configure' inside Network Tools does not work and when I edit /etc/network/interfaces I lose all internet.....
[23:15] <cl0s-home> how do u get Elisa (media center) to recursively go thru your media sub-directories?
[23:15] <Guest36560> Slart: Okay, it installed, now what?
[23:16] <justatheory> I have the sources added to /etc/apt/sources.list, and have run `apt-get update`, but `apt-get upgrade -u -t hardy-backports` shows 0 packages.
[23:16] <xczsacsz> Luner: where can i get a restricted NVIDIA Geforce 7500LE driver for ubuntu. while i am on windows. is there a pckage i can download and then install on ubuntu?
[23:16] <wolfeySI> linxeh:  http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ this worked for me as postfix for smtp and courier-imap for imap
[23:16] <jamiejackson> what's the difference between traditional way of installing Firefox Extensions versus Ubuntu's own FF Extensions Installer?
[23:16] <Slart> Guest36560: start it.. it should be in Applications, sound & video
[23:16] <Guest36560> Slart: It isn't
[23:17] <Guest36560> Slart: I opened it with sudo
[23:17] <Slart> Guest36560: sure?.. well.. open a terminal then.. and run devede
[23:17] <Elixer> jamiejackson: I believe there is no difference.
[23:17] <Slart> Guest36560: don't run it as root
[23:17] <jamiejackson> Elixer: just trying to make installation browsing/installation easier, i guess?
[23:17] <cl0s-home> for example I have Elisa looking in my ~/Music folder for all my oggs but they are all in sub-directories under ~/Music/artist/album/01-track.ogg .. Elisa does not spider this far.. it goes into the ~/Music folder and finds the music files in there.. no deeper.. unless i specificaly configure each sub-directory...
[23:17] <xczsacsz> where can i get a restricted NVIDIA Geforce 7500LE driver for ubuntu. while i am on windows. is there a pckage i can download and then install on ubuntu?
[23:18] <Elixer> jamiejackson: I would agree. But it lacks some good extensions. :D
[23:18] <nickrud_> jamiejackson, the ubuntu one installs them systemwide, for all users, and requires superuser permissions to add/remove
[23:18] <DrLame> So... no one really cares to help get my inet stable I take it?....
[23:18] <joaopinto> !patiente | DrLame
[23:18] <Elixer> nickrud_: I didn't know that. :)
[23:18] <joaopinto> !patience | DrLame
[23:18] <scifiguy951> how do i become the root user?
[23:18] <joaopinto> !rootsudo ! scifiguy951
[23:18] <joaopinto> !rootsudo | scifiguy951
[23:18] <Petskull> BTW- Paddy_EIRE- your suggestion worked
[23:19] <scifiguy951> how can i change the permissions of a folder?
[23:19] <Petskull> Thanks
[23:19] <Slart> scifiguy951: chmod works on folders too
[23:19] <xczsacsz> oh well. thanx i'll try to find out my own way and let u know if i am still stuck
[23:19] <SpectralDesign> Could someone with shell scripting expertise please take a look at pastebin for me?  Thanks!!  http://pastebin.com/m321fb0c4
[23:19] <Elixer> scifiguy951: via GUI or Bash?
[23:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, sorry what was that mate?
[23:20] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, ah.. the ipod
[23:20] <jamiejackson> ahh, okay, so that's one thing, thx, nickrud_
[23:20] <Slart> Guest36560: is it working?
[23:21] <Petskull> yeah, thanks
[23:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, well I have 3 nanos (a1236) and have resorted to running win2000 in a VM for the time being but I must test out that guide to see if it works just using linux
[23:21] <Petskull> I'm good on using rhythmbox to add the music
[23:21] <DrLame> Could someone take a look at this and tell me what I'm doing wrong? When I use it I lose all ability to see my wirelss card: http://pastebin.com/d1c94a65d
[23:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, nice one
[23:21] <Petskull> but hafta delete the mp3s by hand
[23:21] <Paddy_EIRE> Petskull, yeah thats nasty
[23:22] <Petskull> oh- well
[23:22] <Petskull> not really a big deal
[23:22] <nickrud_> Paddy_EIRE, rhythmbox is trivial to use with a nano (have one of the video ones) but the artwork doesn't transfer properly. No big deal for me.
[23:22] <Petskull> ...as long as there's a workaround..
[23:22] <Paddy_EIRE> nickrud_, using the a1236 model
[23:22] <Litx> What is "allow-hotplug" ?
[23:22] <Tamale> ha! i think i found a bug in the calculator
[23:22] <Petskull> don't care about the art..
[23:22] <Tamale> can someone confirm?
[23:22] <Petskull> ... I wonder about the picture support, though
[23:22] <Storrgie> I would like help with RAID5 In ubuntu 8.04 with the ICH9R controller
[23:23] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask
[23:23] <Tamale> try to solve:  2^(10e+6)   -  when I enter the + sign or the last ), the tool totally freezes and zooms to 100% CPU usage
[23:23] <nickrud_> Paddy_EIRE, not sure which, I have the latest
[23:23] <Petskull> how do I get pics of the 'ol girl into it?
[23:23] <Paddy_EIRE> nickrud_, check the back it'll tell you
[23:23] <Petskull> nickrud_: look on the back
[23:23] <DrLame> Litx, someone shared that with me. THey said they used it to get their wired connection to work. They said to just substitute eth0 for wlan0
[23:23] <nickrud_> Paddy_EIRE, I would, but it's at home and I'm at work and shirking
[23:23] <Petskull> HA HA!! got it first!
[23:24] <nickrud_> oh crap, my boss will see that ;)
[23:24] <Petskull> nickrud_: it's in the small print on the back
[23:24] <Slart> Storrgie: on board raid chip?
[23:24] <Litx> Hm.
[23:24] <Eno_> hey.. udev question. i modified 50-udev-default.rules, i added GROUP="mice" to this line KERNEL=="mouse*|mice|event*",   NAME="input/%k", GROUP="mice", MODE="0640". i tried restarting and reloading udev, but the permissions have not changed, how do i change them?
[23:24] <Paddy_EIRE> nickrud_, type /clear
[23:24] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[23:24] <evil_tech> stupid question: can you install ubuntu on a hard drive and run it in windows with qemu?
[23:25] <nickrud_> Paddy_EIRE, it's logged, and he uses ubuntu too (one more conversion)
[23:25] <Storrgie> Slart: yes, i have done mdadm but I would much rather use hardware raid
[23:25] <Litx> DrLame; What exactly are you trying to do?
[23:25] <DrLame> evil_tech: If you put in a live cd while windows is up it'll let you install it in with windows. Then it'll give you the option to boot to either one
[23:25] <Storrgie> Slart: I would like the array to be able to be read by my windows partition in the future
[23:25]  * Petskull does stuff while the music loads into his iPod..
[23:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !raid | Storrgie
[23:26] <Storrgie> Paddy_EIRE: think that will really help?
[23:26] <Paddy_EIRE> errrr Storrgie if you can really read YES
[23:26] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[23:26] <DrLame> Litx: Get a static IP of <IP_ADDRESS> on this comp. My internet is failing every half hour or so. I had a simmiliar problem in windows that was fixed as soon as I went static
[23:26] <Slart> Storrgie: http://www.baarf.com/ <-- some info on raid 5.. and those on board fake raid chips aren't worth the time and effort to set them up..
[23:26] <Method2oo7> can some one help my with java
[23:26] <Litx> DrLame; You are setting this up for a home network?
[23:27] <evil_tech> Dr Lame: I don't want to dual boot
[23:27] <Slart> Storrgie: but read the links ubottu sent you.. I think they explain it all pretty good
[23:27] <IntoxikCat> -Anyone can speak spanish? I have problems with the mount of DVDs on Ubuntu Hardy.
[23:27] <Slart> !es | IntoxikCat
[23:27] <wolfeySI> Method2oo7: what's the problem?
[23:27] <DrLame> Litx: Yes, I am.
[23:27] <Method2oo7> cant creat chech
[23:27] <mcquaid> i had reasons to try out envy-ng with my nvidia card and decided to go back to the ubuntu reps nvidia driver
[23:28] <mcquaid> now on reboot i get NVIDIA (): Autoinstall not set in its DKMS.conf
[23:28] <Litx> DrLame; Kindly, explain your setup? (network card, router type)
[23:28]  * Petskull LOVESS Envy!
[23:28] <IntoxikCat> ubottu: He entrado a los de español pero nadie sabe como se soluciona mi problema.
[23:28] <Storrgie> Slart: Paddy_EIRE: There is no link, that doesnt exist
[23:28] <Method2oo7> realy need help with runescape cant get java to work right
[23:28] <mcquaid> nvidia drivers are still working but i'd like to know how to deal with that error.  also the nvidia logo no longer shows, i actually thought 3d wasn't going to be working
[23:28] <IntoxikCat> -Hahaha.
[23:28] <Paddy_EIRE> Storrgie, works perfectly fine
[23:28] <Slart> Storrgie: hmm.. you're right.. good catch
[23:29] <Slart> Paddy_EIRE: the raid link doesn't work for me... it does for you?
[23:29] <wolfeySI> Method2oo7: what's not working? probably you need java webstart 6.0 from add/remove programs (all aplications)
[23:29] <magic_ninja> this computer has me stumped
[23:29] <moo_cow> my friends having a problem with ubuntu and i wonder if anyone can help. if he uses any resolution higher than 1024x768 on a hd tv, the picture gets cut off
[23:29] <magic_ninja> working on it for my cousin
[23:29] <wolfeySI> Method2oo7: plus runespace probably uses Java3D or jogl, that's another issue
[23:29] <wolfeySI> :)
[23:29] <Method2oo7> ok
[23:29] <Paddy_EIRE> Slart, which one have you clicked?
[23:29] <Slart> Storrgie: this one works for me.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:29] <magic_ninja> its freezing on windows setup, but not locking up, mub.sys
[23:30] <Slart> Paddy_EIRE: the one about configuring raid
[23:30] <magic_ninja> however, i tried switching out the psu and then it locks up in POST
[23:30] <DrLame> Litx: Network card: Realtek 8187 usb, Router: Dlink dl-524
[23:30] <Slart> Paddy_EIRE: the first one
[23:30] <HexaneX> How do I get Rythmbox to play through my USB headphones?
[23:30] <Paddy_EIRE> ah
[23:30] <Paddy_EIRE> Slart, oh yeah that page no longer exists :(
[23:31] <DrLame> Litx: I was told there's an easy way to set my card to a static IP with a graphical interface if I went to Network Tools->configure, but when I click configure it tells me The Interface Does Not Exist
[23:31] <Litx> DrLame; I have the same problem, but it doesn't affect me.
[23:31] <Paddy_EIRE> Storrgie, hmm try this I'm not sure how helpful it will be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid
[23:31] <Storrgie> Paddy_EIRE, Slart... Thank you
[23:31] <Method2oo7> i keep geting Error Loader nocache Unable to create cache directory
[23:32] <Storrgie> I will keep you posted as to what I do, and document my steps
[23:32] <wolfeySI> DrLame: Gnome Network Manager doesnt edit settings of what is already set in /etc/network/interfaces , such as auto eth0 :)
[23:32] <Storrgie> My main goal is to make a raid5 array that is readable from both windows and linux
[23:32] <wolfeySI> DrLame: not sure if that applies to you
[23:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Storrgie, yeah keep us informed.. sounds good anyway
[23:32] <vasily> I have AMD 64 processor. I need to find out is ubuntu 64 is installed on my machene or just Ubuntu 32? Any ideas?
[23:32] <Method2oo7> i keep geting Error Loader nocache Unable to create cache directory when trying to load runescape
[23:33] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, uname -r in a terminal
[23:33] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, uname -a
[23:33] <bazhang> !version
[23:33] <DrLame> wolfeySI: There isn't much in that file now, lol. When I tried to set the stuff with eth0, my wireless card couldn't be seen.
[23:34] <Method2oo7> i keep geting Error Loader nocache Unable to create cache directory when trying to load runescape
[23:34] <wolfeySI> DrLame: hmm :)
[23:34] <Paddy_EIRE> bazhang, architecture is not listed with lsb_release -a
[23:34] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[23:34] <witriew> any gfxboot theme creation tutorials out there? :)
[23:34] <wolfeySI> DrLame: it's easy to write static IP there, i use networkmanager for wlan roaming
[23:34] <manchicken> Anybody having trouble syncing with palm devices?  I can sync contacts only it seems, and all of the conduits are enabled...
[23:34] <trashguy> uanme -a
[23:34] <Litx> DrLame; refresh your pastebin, give that a try. Sorry but I have to leave :(
[23:35] <trashguy> will shwo arch
[23:35] <Litx> Hope I could help.
[23:35] <Method2oo7> i keep geting Error Loader nocache Unable to create cache directory when trying to load runescape
[23:35] <Storrgie> Might seem like a silly question... but does anyone sync their windows mobile phone in linux?
[23:35] <vasily> Paddy_EIRE, I got Linux vasily-desktop 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:15:37 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:35] <tharvey> trying to setup nfs-kernel-server for hardy - can mount the exported share locally but when I try from another machine I see 'mountd: authenticated...' in syslog but remote client fails with 'No such device' - ideas?
[23:35] <zeeqy> Hi All, ...is there any way I can restore my ubuntu server 8.04 64bit to what it was yesterday...or ubuntu doesnt work like windows restore point??..thanks!!
[23:36] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, yeah thats  x86_64 (64 bit) mate
[23:36] <Paddy_EIRE> zeeqy, no restore points
[23:36] <SpectralDesign> Could someone with shell scripting expertise please take a look at pastebin for me?  Thanks!!  http://pastebin.com/m321fb0c4
[23:36] <Method2oo7> how do i creat a new dir called /rscache
[23:36] <vasily> Paddy, thankx a lot. Do you know how to install programs from Sun?
[23:36] <zeeqy> Paddy:...do i have to remove all the software i installed one by one?
[23:37] <xhuangzi> Is there any possible way to make Netflix's Play Now function work on linux?
[23:37] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, sure... which programs
[23:37] <mistergibson> is there a gnome2 theme editor proper?
[23:37] <mint_> i think there was a wireless card question... i just installed one recently.. i ended up going to synaptic package manager, searching for ndiswrapper, installing the 3 results (ndisgtk, ndiswrapper common, and utils) and then using ndisgtk to install the wireless driver from the cd
[23:37] <Paddy_EIRE> zeeqy, well what exactly is the problem?
[23:37] <hustle> Method2oo7: do you mean "mkdir"?
[23:38] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, are you skipping . and ..?
[23:38] <Plazma_Work> is it documented somewhere what the server version has that he desktop version of ubuntu doesnt?
[23:38] <vasily> Puddy. virtualbox. I got to their website and started their download manager but it did not bring me to anything. I got a small file and that is it :(
[23:38] <SpectralDesign> tharvey yes, as well as any other "hidden" files/folders
[23:38] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, 1 sec
[23:38] <zeeqy> i installed asterisk, php, mysql and all its dependencies...removing them leave all the folders behind, and become difficult to work around with apache folders...
[23:38] <vasily> Paddy, sure
[23:39] <Method2oo7> ok how do i make a dir in root
[23:39] <Gromit_> mkdir
[23:39] <SpectralDesign> tharvey that was why I did the FILELIST thing, to get the `cp -al` done sans the .snapshot folder
[23:39] <rainwalker> xhuangzi: nope, netflix's streaming requires IE and WMP and tons of DRM-related crap
[23:39] <bazhang> vasily, any reason not to use vbox from partner repos
[23:39] <Brian> I'm unable to get 8.0.4 installed on a gigabyte mb with the 780g chipset. After "scanning cdrom" it just reboots. I have disabled all extra hardware, there are no cards, just plain ol mb, cpu,memory. I have the alternate cd but it's doing the same. I tried noacpi etc, no go. Any suggestions?
[23:39] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, stick to the ubuntu documented way of doing things.. we dont really officially support anything other that that here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[23:40] <DrLame_> wolfeySI: Litx: I lost inet again and had to restart
[23:40] <DrLame_> wolfeySI: did you get my pastebin link?
[23:40] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, that should make it nice and simple...
[23:40] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[23:40] <vasily> Paddy - yes, I need to use USB microphone. I can not make it working in Ubuntu and vbox has a virtual connection to USB I was told
[23:40] <wolfeySI> DrLame_: no?
[23:41] <wolfeySI> i'm not 100% on this channel
[23:41] <wolfeySI> if you just want static ip, you write that in /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking
[23:41] <wolfeySI> i see no point in trying to get GUI to do that
[23:41] <Klick__> hey all, does anyone know how i can tell ubuntu not to run dancer-ircd on start up?  I don't see it listed in dervices
[23:41] <moo_cow> what's the deal with ubuntu? it has no resolutions listen in the xorg.conf by default.
[23:41] <MasterShrek> vasily, i believe virtualbox is in the repos
[23:41] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, yeah it does if you use the PEUL version
[23:41] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, nothing jumps out at me... add the output the the pastbin showing all the echos
[23:41] <wolfeySI> hmm
[23:41] <moo_cow> s/listen/listed
[23:41] <DrLame_> wolfeySI: This is what I tried to write into my etc/network/interfaces  http://pastebin.com/d1c94a65d
[23:42] <Paddy_EIRE> MasterShrek, the one in the repos is the FOSS edition.. lacking usb support afaik
[23:42] <Plazma_Work> so how well does virtualbox or vmware run on Ubuntu?
[23:42] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, the xorg.conf is obsolete kinda
[23:42] <vasily> Puddy. the open sourse version does not support USB
[23:42] <Paddy_EIRE> Plazma_Work, how well does your comp run
[23:42] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, yeah I know
[23:42] <MasterShrek> Paddy_EIRE, i thought there were two versions in the repo, could be wrong though...
[23:42] <Plazma_Work> Paddy_EIRE, well its a new machine, quad core + 4gb of ram
[23:42] <Plazma_Work> i have yet to put an OS on it so
[23:42] <moo_cow> zelrikriando-> you're a dumbass
[23:43] <Paddy_EIRE> Plazma_Work, happy days :)
[23:43] <Plazma_Work> and im debating
[23:43] <MasterShrek> moo_cow, please be respectful
[23:43] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, just remove it, you ll see what I am talking about
[23:43] <joebob777as7> i'm trying to tunnel to my cups shared printer at my office. Here is the command i'm running, ssh -L 1234:localhost:631<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when i go add the printer it doesn't show up anywhere how can i figure out the device uri to tupe in cups?
[23:43] <Plazma_Work> last time i used ubuntu, it frustrated me when it rie dto do some custom kernel compiling and what not.. but that was over 3 years ago
[23:43] <bazhang> moo_cow, refrain from insults.
[23:43] <Plazma_Work> to me it felt like i was wearing "kid gloves"
[23:43] <unop> Klick__, maybe this service script exists in /etc/init.d/dancer-ircd  -- if it does, then run.   sudo update-rc.d remove -f dancer-ircd # the exact name of this service might be different, so change the commands accordingly
[23:43] <nickrud_> !attitude moo_cow
[23:43] <nickrud_> !attitude | moo_cow
[23:43] <vasily> Paddy - I will make installation myself if you can give give at least some directions. I am very nooby here )(
[23:43] <MasterShrek> zelrikriando, please dont suggest things that could potentially break someone's machine
[23:43] <vdsy> would there be a difference in performance if root partitions are placed at the end of the hard drive?
[23:44] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, https://cds.sun.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/CDS-CDS_SMI-Site/en_US/-/USD/ViewProductDetail-Start?ProductRef=innotek-1.6-G-F@CDS-CDS_SMI
[23:44] <zelrikriando> MasterShrek, I did it...nothing wrong with it
[23:44] <moo_cow> go ahead and ban me from this channel if you want cause i get stupid responses instead of help from here
[23:44] <MasterShrek> vdsy, i believe the end of the drive spins the fastest, so swap is best at the end ive been told
[23:44] <nickrud_> MasterShrek, that's the bulletproof X in action
[23:44] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, do not use the sun download manager either
[23:45] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, just download the .deb
[23:45] <Klick__> dano@x41:~$ sudo update-rc.d remove -f dancer-ircd
[23:45] <Klick__> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/remove: file does not exist
[23:45] <SpectralDesign> tharvey okay -- http://pastebin.com/d7f911fe8
[23:45] <Starnestommy> Klick__: try sudo update-rc.d -f dancer-ircd remove
[23:45] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, things are handled in the Screen resolution applet now
[23:46] <DrLame> wolfeySI: this is really really frustrating... I just had to reset again
[23:46] <vdsy> MasterShrek: so why are most partitions recommendations from just about anyone decide to place their swap at the beginning..yeah ive heard of what you've said too about the outseide
[23:46] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, hmm... enemy at the gates??
[23:46] <DrLame> wolfeySI: This is what I tried to write into my etc/network/interfaces  http://pastebin.com/d1c94a65d
[23:46] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, you should put quotes around your filenames for one
[23:46] <bimbo> alguien habla español?
[23:46] <joebob777as7> i'm trying to tunnel to my cups shared printer at my office. Here is the command i'm running, ssh -L 1234:localhost:631<EMAIL_ADDRESS>when i go add the printer it doesn't show up anywhere how can i figure out the device uri to tupe in cups?  X can use screen configs, but uses xrandr to set resolutions by preference now
[23:47] <alon_m> joebob777as7, isnt the uri port like 900
[23:47] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, qoute all args to cp that have vars, in case you end up with files with spaces in them for example - and why are you not just using 'ln' instead of CP?
[23:47] <bimbo> Gracias
[23:47] <bazhang> np
[23:47] <DJAdmiral> Hey, thought I'd ask; Adonthell - Waste's Edge is in the games section of 7.10, but I can't seem to find a walkthrough for it. Any clue?
[23:47] <DJAdmiral> I'm kinda stuck.
[23:48] <alon_m> joebob777as7, or 9000
[23:48] <joebob777as7> alon_m I don't know I just know that I set the cups port from my office to be 1234
[23:48] <joe__> I change my ip to static instead dhcp, but it gives me no ip at all this time
[23:48] <wolfeySI> DrLame: what is allow-hotplug?
[23:48] <moo_cow> nickrud_-> im seeing a new user going back to windows cause ubuntu doesnt allow him to have higher resolution than 1024x768 without the picture getting cut off.
[23:48] <nickrud_> moo_cow, what video card?
[23:48] <wolfeySI> DrLame: i didnt use such for wlan, cause i have no idea how to set up WPA properly:)
[23:48] <Paddy_EIRE> vasily, any joy?
[23:48] <alon_m> joebob777as7, why not just print to your printer why are you printing to cups? little more details on your setup would be good
[23:48] <SpectralDesign> tharvey, thanks, so... line 22 should be:          "$CP" -al "$SNAPDIR/$SOURCEDIR/$FILE" "$SNAPDIR"/snapshot.1                  ??
[23:49] <DrLame> wolfeySI: I don't know what allow-hotplug is =( Someone told me to use that. It was for eth0 connection. THey said to just substiture wlan0 in
[23:49] <trashguy> moo_cow,  swithcing back to windows because you dont understand something isnt the best idea
[23:49] <DrLame> but, I think I have an answer now
[23:49] <SpectralDesign> tharvey, I'm using cp instead on ln because cp recurses (I think).. does ln recurse?
[23:49] <moo_cow> nickrud_-> onboard intel chipset
[23:49] <joebob777as7> alon_m: i'm basically trying to add my office printer to my home ubuntu-server and then share it with my LAN at home
[23:49] <natt> dist-upgrade to hardy, sound not work unless reinstall old kernel, is this a known problem?
[23:49] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, ya, but not sure thats your issue as I don't know whats in yours - contents of your FILELIST is 'files' or directories?
[23:49] <joe__> I change my ip to static instead dhcp, but it gives me no ip at all this time... help plz
[23:49] <DJAdmiral> Also, any idea what's a good video card to get for Ubuntu 8.04 and Crossover Games? I'm looking for something between 256 and 512 mb.
[23:49] <[[thufir]]> when I run netstat, how do I figure out what's consuming my network resources? the system monitor shows huge network activity for no apparent reason.
[23:49] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, that is surprising, screen resolution is really well handled now in Hardy
[23:50] <kingfishr> Question: Can I install newer versions of certain packages through synaptic? (In gentoo, I would unmask them and then emerge them)
[23:50] <SpectralDesign> tharvey there is one file (fun_plug) the rest are folders
[23:50] <willitaway> How do i hide the Join/Quit messages in Xchat??
[23:50] <ket[a]> how can i burn the cd image to a usb drive?
[23:50] <Starnestommy> willitaway: regular xchat or xchat-gnome?
[23:50] <nickrud_> moo_cow, ah, that one. If you had said nvidia or ati I'd have some suggestions, but I've never used that one. Many do though, so don't go away
[23:50] <alon_m> joebob777as7, connect the local machine at home via ssh tunnel then go into cups control panel at home and add in your office printer then print a test page to see if its functioning
[23:50] <willitaway> Starnestommy -gnome
[23:50] <unop> willitaway, right click the channel, unselect show join/part messages
[23:51] <tharvey> SpectralDesign, ah... so you are trying to copy directories... does '$SNAPDIR/snapshot.1' exist?  you need to create it first if your trying to copy multiple things to it
[23:51] <Starnestommy> willitaway: I don't think xchat-gnome can do it
[23:51] <zelrikriando> nickrud_, I have an intel but I my screen doesnt take more that 1024xXXX so I never tried more
[23:51] <joebob777as7> alon_m i'm trying to add the office printer at home right now and it doesn't see it. that's my problem... :(
[23:51] <SpectralDesign> tharvey, ahh then that might be the issue.. let me try those two things,. THANKS
[23:51] <zelrikriando> -I
[23:51] <DrLame> wolfeySI: How do I load an edited /etc/network/interfaces?
[23:51] <willitaway> What's a better IRC client?? :p
[23:51] <alon_m> joebob777as7, yea you need the ip address of the printer? or is it parrellel?
[23:51] <DJAdmiral> I currently have an intel integrated graphics chipset which has 128 megs of video memory, but I want to upgrade to a video card preferably between 256 megs and 512 megs of memory. Any suggestions as to what video card has good support for Ubuntu and Linux in general?
[23:52] <zelrikriando> nickrud_, Intel should just work though
[23:52] <DrLame> willitaway: konversation
[23:52] <wolfeySI> DrLame: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:52] <Starnestommy> willitaway: regular xchat
[23:52] <nickrud_> zelrikriando, I've read about some bugs in 915 ones I think. or was it the 945?
[23:52] <Litx> DrLame; did that configuration work?
[23:52] <alon_m> DJAdmiral, support doing what? basic display or other 3d info
[23:52] <DJAdmiral> willitaway: Pidgin's good for absolute basic IRCing with a GUI, otherwise you can be leet and use a CLI IRC client :P
[23:52] <DrLame> wolfeySI: thanks
[23:52] <DrLame> Litx: THat's what I'm about to try =)
[23:52] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, do you have the complete reference of the intel chipset?
[23:52] <pubo> hi all
[23:52] <joebob777as7> alon_m while tunneling to my office computer with this command: ssh -L 1234:localhost:631<EMAIL_ADDRESS>wouldn't it just be localhost:1234?
[23:52] <nickrud_> zelrikriando, but since I've never had a laptop with that chip I have no firsthand experience
[23:52] <Litx> :)
[23:53] <joe__> best cli irc client = irssi
[23:53] <nickrud_> !best
[23:53] <DJAdmiral> alon_m: basically linux gaming, high compiz fusion settings and some windoze games through Crossover Games.
[23:53] <willitaway> lol DJAdmiral leetness isnt an issue, thx for the suggestions tho!
[23:53] <Storrgie> I want to use my windows mobile phone with linux till openmoko comes to CDMA... its this possible!?!!?
[23:53] <DeadKennedy2880> zelrikriando - agreed, onboard video is usually detected, but i thought moo_cow was trying to fix his TV's resolution?
[23:53] <moo_cow> zelrikriando-> i lost contact with my friend. i think his X won't start after i added the resolution he wanted to the xorg.conf.
[23:53] <alon_m> joebob777as7, only if you want to connect your local machine locally? your not specifying your remote ip to work
[23:53] <joe__> alon_m: are you answering my problem?
[23:53] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, which ubuntu version is he running?
[23:53] <Storrgie> >>I want to use my windows mobile phone with linux till openmoko comes to CDMA... its this possible!?!!?
[23:53] <DJAdmiral> willitaway: Anytime.
[23:54] <moo_cow> zelrikriando-> latest
[23:54] <nickrud_> moo_cow, did you tell him the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg  to reset to defaults?
[23:54] <joebob777as7> alon_m isn't that what the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>does?
[23:54] <Brian> I'm unable to get 8.0.4 installed on a gigabyte mb with the 780g chipset. After "scanning cdrom" it just reboots. I have disabled all extra hardware, there are no cards, just plain ol mb, cpu,memory. I have the alternate cd but it's doing the same. I tried noacpi etc, no go. Any suggestions? How can i try to run a command line install so i can see what happens before it reboots?
[23:54] <unop> joebob777as7, i would say yes - judging from that command
[23:54] <joebob777as7> alon_m right now I can see the printer locally with lpstat -t -h localhost:1234
[23:54] <onthefence928> how do i make linux use a swap partition i've set up for it? without a fresh install?
[23:54] <kingfishr> What do I need to do to install a newer version of the program then the one I find in synaptic? Do I have to go find it myself, or does the ubuntu package management system keep multiple versions of the same packages?
[23:54] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, if you can contact him, make him move his xorg.conf to a xor.conf.backup and restart X
[23:54] <eraldo> my pidgin can't connect to icq anymore... I get an error saying that my pidgin is not uptodate... but if i do my apt-get update&grade there is no new pidgin
[23:54] <kingfishr> s/then/than/
[23:54] <nickrud_> onthefence928, add the swap to /etc/fstab
[23:55] <joebob777as7> unop thx glad i'm not crazy... (yet)
[23:55] <moo_cow> nickrud_-> i tried moving his xorg.conf and generating a new one with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it still did not have resolutions in it.
[23:55] <nickrud_> onthefence928, then say sudo swapon -a
[23:55] <korn_> hi
[23:55] <korn_> I am having problems with sbuild
[23:55] <nickrud_> moo_cow, that's normal, X does not require those lines anymore, it calculates it based on chip and monitor
[23:55] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, as I said, video features are not in the xorg.conf anymore
[23:55] <DJAdmiral> alon_m: basically linux gaming, high compiz fusion settings and some windoze games through Crossover Games.
[23:56] <zelrikriando> moo_cow, things are handled in a nicer way now, he shouldnt touch the xorg.conf
[23:56] <korn_> that's my schroot: http://rafb.net/p/n9Ct5m65.html but when running sbuild I get this error: http://rafb.net/p/zuOAH024.html
[23:56] <legend2440> willitaway: open home folder and press ctrl+h  then open .xchat2>xchat.conf  and change irc_conf_mode from0 to 1
[23:56] <nickrud_> UUID=6544a3d4-5349-4819-92c2-e9ce082d9385 none            swap    sw              0       0  <-- onthefence928 a sample swap line in /etc/fstab
[23:56] <willitaway> downloading both xchat and Konversation... thx Starnestommy
[23:56] <joebob777as7> DJAdmiral I have issues with full screen while compiz is running in most of my games using cxgames
[23:57] <unop> nickrud_, doesn't the partition need to be mkswapped ?
[23:57] <alon_m> DJAdmiral, are you looking at any cards in particular
[23:57] <onthefence928> nickrud_: i'm assuming i can't use that same uuid
[23:57] <nickrud_> unop, he said he's already set it up
[23:57] <DJAdmiral> alon_m: Care to elaborate?
[23:57] <unop> onthefence928, right your UUID will be different
[23:57] <nickrud_> onthefence928, no,   sudo blkid will show the right one
[23:57] <chris_> Please Help. When I was copying home video's to a cd/dvd window, I accidnetly hit cut instead of copy and the folders in the cd/dvd window seem to be empty, now it seems our videos are lost can anybody please help me recover them. we left the computer on and haven't touched it since just in case we can recover them from memory.
[23:57] <DJAdmiral> alon_m: Oh, wait. No, I just want a card with good support for ubuntu. I'm open to anything.
[23:57] <joebob777as7> DJAdmiral pretty much any nvidia has good ubuntu support
[23:58] <linxeh> is there a utility that can deduplicate emails?
[23:58] <alon_m> DJAdmiral, pci, pci express or AGP
[23:58] <DJAdmiral> joebob777as7, alon_m: What about ATI?
[23:58] <Dmole> what's wrong with this command?;     at now + 10 minutes bash ~/script.bash
[23:58] <unop> nickrud_, i musta missed that one - can't hurt to verify that he's done that tho
[23:58] <nickrud_> DJAdmiral, anything more than a year and a half old, less than 3 :)
[23:58] <alon_m> DJAdmiral, which port do you have
[23:58] <unop> onthefence928, have you run mkswap on the partition you have dedicated for swap there?
[23:58] <moo_cow> nickrud_-> zelrikriando my friends going to be in here shortly so ill let you 2 talk to him.
[23:58] <joshual> hi folks, just installed ardour, trying to get it to work... i am now probably running pulseaudio which is the default on ubuntu hardy as i understand it
[23:58] <joebob777as7> DJAdmiral i'd say it's hit and miss. haven't used for a while but I hear they're doing better driver wise now
[23:58] <DJAdmiral> alon_m: AGP.
[23:59] <onthefence928> unop: no
[23:59] <onthefence928> unop: what does it do?
[23:59] <DJAdmiral> joebob777as7: I guess I'll go for an nvidia card then.
[23:59] <natt> chris_: it shouldn't have moved the files unless there was somewhere to move them to, what happened to the copy in the "cd/dvd window"?
[23:59] <unop> onthefence928, it setups the partition with a swap area ready to be used
[23:59] <nickrud_> unop, that's the sign of someone who's been here too long (or long enough) answers the question behind the question that didn't get asked ;)
[23:59] <Kaldor> Does openGL run natively on Linux if you have an nvidia geforce card?


[17:36] <pleia2> PaulW2U: welcome to release month, it's OMG SO MUCH NEWS time :)
[17:51] <PaulW2U> pleia2: Yes, I wasn't here for 13.04 was I? Now working on my 22nd UWN I think
[17:54] <pleia2> gosh, time flies
[18:09]  * PaulW2U looks at UWN 288 and 314 re the 12.10 and 13.04 releases
[18:10] <pleia2> I end up having to delete a bunch of articles because it's too overwhelming


[00:13] <kendell> wish there were a way to generate my own install image fr4om my working computer with all my software packages and settings set, and install that
[00:13] <kendell> apparently just installing ubiquity is not enough, you have to compress it into an so image properly
[00:14] <oerheks> there used to be a tool , cubic, that can do that
[00:14] <oerheks> but why?
[00:15] <kendell> because my new hp laptop will install but not boot linux. The errors I get are as follows. intel ish timed out waiting for fw. Initiating reset. Intel ish icp has failed to start. It then drops me into a busybox shelll during the initramfs boot up
[00:18] <oerheks> some HP machines wants you to add the new uefi key as trusted.
[00:18] <oerheks> in the bios
[00:18] <kendell> thanking god right now the live images of ubuntu still load and work fine or I'd have a bricked computer. I'm on it right now being able to use my computer instead of trying to reinstall windows for the tenth time, only for it to say no sound devices detected. Linux detects and works with all my hardware immediately
[00:19] <kendell> can you give me an idea of how to add it as trusted? I'll do it as soon as I'm done installiny linux
[00:19] <oerheks> and check for a bios update, it could resolve many issues
[00:21] <kendell> I'll try checking for a bios update. Assuming it will come in only a windows package. Could use wine to run the set program though
[00:23] <oerheks> ubuntu/could do that too, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fwupd
[00:26] <kendell> I love using fwupd, not sure exactly how to use it but i'll try that now
[00:27] <oerheks> use your trusted way, windows, freedos, linux
[00:27] <oerheks> but this project seems oke
[00:29] <kendell> linux is my preferred method, always. Could you give me the commands to check for a new bios update? There are two applications, fwupdtool and fwupdmgr, not sure which to use or what to tell it to do
[00:32] <oerheks> use update tool, and let update manager run in the background
[00:32] <oerheks> basicly
[00:35] <kendell> what commands do I give fwupdtool to check for new firmware updates, or does update manager automatically install new firmware?
[00:36] <oerheks> sudo fwupdmgr refresh && sudo fwupdmgr update # would do
[00:37] <oerheks> else you should do some research, sudo fwupdtool install-blob <.bin> <device-id>
[00:43] <kendell> the gui firmware tool seems to indicate that there's an update to the hp system firmware but not sure how to update, so I may update from within the bios
[00:48] <oerheks> best choice, if you ask me
[05:30] <kendell> hi. Doing some more research the problem seems to be a grub one. Trying to install both from a chroot and not reveals the following errors. "cannot find efi directory" when installing for x86-64-efi platform and "cannot find canonical path of /dev/sdb5" when installing for i386-pc platform. Chrooted into my linux install now updating it
[05:30] <kendell> for those who don't know what I'm talking about I can install linux to, but not run the installed version from, my new hp laptop. There is no bios update and enabling tpm and resetting security settings to their defaults did not fix the problem
[22:25] <Kolusion> Hi. In Ubuntu, MATE is in the Universe repository. My understanding is Ubuntu MATE uses the same repositories as Ubuntu, so MATE in Ubuntu MATE is from Universe. Is that right?
[22:26] <sixwheeledbeast> yes
[22:29] <Kolusion> Thanks. Then the distro has a problem where security updates are not supported by Canonical.
[22:31] <Kolusion> Better off installing using Debian with MATE where it is in Main repo.
[22:34] <sixwheeledbeast> Flavours still get 3 years support


[02:13] <newz2000> Does "FATAL: Error inserting toshiba_acpi ... No such device" mean that the driver can't be found, or does it mean that the hardware the driver supports can't be found?
[02:14] <kylem> the latter
[02:14] <newz2000> thanks
[02:14] <kylem> it means the module init routine returned -ENODEV for some reason. :/
[02:15] <newz2000> I'm trying to get the Fn+Dim/Bright keys on my keyboard to work. No joy. :(
[02:17] <newz2000> later
[05:14] <_MMA_> BenC: Has linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-1-lowlatency hit the repos yet?
[05:43] <BenC> _MMA_: 2.6.20-2 is uploaded, and LRM is pending build for it
[05:44] <_MMA_> Ok. I just went to Feisty so we can start testing and I didnt know if I was doing something wrong. :)
[05:45] <_MMA_> Im also getting random shutdowns with the 20-1-lowlatency kernel.
[05:46] <BenC> odd...there's a lot of changes with -2, so give that a try before submitting a bug report
[05:46] <_MMA_> Thats what I was about to ask. ;)
[05:46] <_MMA_> np. Ill wait.


[20:23] <anders3408> on 2nd bootup :)
[20:23] <ogra_> Hashcode,  nope
[20:23] <tedg> lool, Make sure you don't have the overrides in /usr/share/upstart/sessions
[20:23] <anders3408> ogra_:  as /proc/406/root/system is empty
[20:23] <Hashcode> zzarr: yes, that's possible.  There is an installer on the Play Store
[20:23] <lool> tedg: I do have overrides there, why is that?
[20:24] <lool> ubuntu-touch-session eh
[20:24] <lool> WTF
[20:24] <ogra_> anders3408, where does the 406 come from ?
[20:24] <popey> zzarr: we haven't released ubuntu for android
[20:24] <zzarr> what is it called?
[20:24] <anders3408> lxc-start<PHONE_NUMBER>.452 ERROR    lxc_conf - No such file or directory - stat(/proc/406/root/dev/lxc/tty2)
[20:24] <anders3408> same line is comming on first bootup with no issues
[20:24] <anders3408>       lxc-start<PHONE_NUMBER>.606 ERROR    lxc_conf - No such file or directory - stat(/proc/401/root/dev/lxc/tty4)
[20:24] <ogra_> anders3408, use lxc0info to get the right pid
[20:24] <ogra_> lxc-info
[20:25] <Hashcode> popey: I don't think he's referring to the actual product
[20:25] <lool> tedg: why is this in the touch-session package?!
[20:25] <zzarr> popey, I know, but is it possible to do it manually
[20:25] <anders3408> ogra_:  confirmed it the same pid :9
[20:25] <Hashcode> zzarr: what sort of ubuntu interface were you looking for?
[20:25] <ogra_> and it tells you it is running ?
[20:25] <anders3408> yes it does ogra_
[20:25] <ogra_> and do you see android processes in yout processlist ?
[20:26] <anders3408> but if i cd to proc/406/root/system/ that folder is empty
[20:26] <Volsus> where can I learn more about acquiring enough understanding to assist with the development on the Nexus 7?
[20:26] <anders3408> ogra from top i dont see any android progrecess
[20:26] <zzarr> one that works like webtop
[20:26] <Hashcode> zzarr: ah, no that's not out
[20:26] <Saviq> jono, btw - you should know, or at least will point me at someone who does - what do I do for our team to get notified about new bugs to unity8 and ubuntu/unity8?
[20:27] <Hashcode> popey: you were right :p
[20:27] <anders3408> ogra_:  same thing with ps aux
[20:27] <Saviq> jono, I've subscribed ~unity-ui-team to ubuntu/unity8, but we still seem to get no updates
[20:27] <lool> tedg: ok, without the overrides the app start, but doesn't play: phablet   2171 35.0  3.6<PHONE_NUMBER>2 ?        Ssl  20:26   0:04      \_ /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene /usr/share/music-app/music-app.qml --file=/home/phablet/Music/11 Novembre 1918-58'50''.mp3 --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/music-app.desktop
[20:27] <ogra_> anders3408, well, then the container didnt start at all ... probably there is something in /var/log/lxc/
[20:27] <lool> the args look correct though
[20:27] <lool> ^@--file=/home/phablet/Music/11 Novembre 1918-58'50''.mp3^@-
[20:28]  * lool scratches head
[20:28] <jono> Saviq, subscribing to the project should give you bugmail
[20:28] <tedg> lool, Yeah, I was only checking the args, it wasn't playing for me either.
[20:28] <anders3408> ogra_:  in that folder i have android.log that only points out       lxc-start<PHONE_NUMBER>.452 ERROR    lxc_conf - No such file or directory - stat(/proc/406/root/dev/lxc/tty2)
[20:28] <anders3408>  which it also did on first bootup
[20:28] <jono> maybe jfunk can help you get set up Saviq
[20:28] <lool> tedg: ah
[20:28] <Saviq> jono, do we need a mailing list for the team, or should that go straight to the members?
[20:28] <lool> tedg: also, I'm getting multiple instances
[20:28] <jono> Saviq, should go to the members who subscribe to bugmail
[20:28] <zzarr> every time I dock my phone and it switches to webtop all android apps are restarted, can I prevent that?
[20:29] <tedg> lool, I don't think the version with the single instance flag is in the image yet.
[20:29] <lool> ah right, it's not click
[20:29] <lool> indeed not
[20:30] <ogra_> anders3408, how about /var/log/upstart/lxc-android-config.log
[20:30] <ogra_> also check dmesg for weird stuff
[20:30] <jfunk> Saviq, I curate a list of new avengers defects that are mostly untriaged for the unity8 project (among other projects) would you like me to email them to you?
[20:30] <anders3408> ogra_:  doesnt exsist
[20:30] <anders3408> dmesg is all fucked up
[20:30] <Saviq> jfunk, I'm just worried /me is not looking at new bugmail
[20:31] <Saviq> jfunk, for unity8 or ubuntu/unity8 - 'cause it doesn't come to me for some reason
[20:31] <jfunk> Saviq, that's something else, don't know how to help you there
[20:31] <Saviq> jfunk, k thanks, we'll chase it up tomorrow
[20:32] <anders3408> ogra_:  what in the world did happend around line 629 ? :O
[20:32] <ogra_> ?
[20:33] <anders3408> ogra_:  EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p20): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 28490
[20:33] <anders3408> EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p20): 18 orphan inodes deleted
[20:33] <anders3408> EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p20): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[20:33] <ogra_> it fscks the filesystem it seems
[20:33] <ogra_> during mount
[20:34] <ogra_> which looks fine
[20:34] <zzarr> hashcode do you know how the webtop environment works?
[20:34] <anders3408> but what about : mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) ?
[20:34] <Hashcode> zzarr: on 4.1 for the Motorola's webtop is just a different launcher for the HDMI screen
[20:34] <Hashcode> It's still the same OS running under it
[20:36] <zzarr> okey, so what I need/want is a launcher that handles both the phonemode and webtop mode without restarting the apps
[20:39] <zzarr> I'll be back later, I must go now
[20:41] <anders3408> ogra_:  if i do : lxc-kill --name android and then lxc-start --name android i get this :
[20:41] <anders3408> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6147300/
[20:42] <ogra_> anders3408, so something keeps the socket open apparently
[20:49] <anders3408> ogra_:  not sure but is this usfeull : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6147332/
[20:51] <anders3408> ogra_:  let me reflash and bootup , then check the same mounts point :)
[20:51] <ogra_> yeah
[20:52] <ogra_> i really dont see anything unusual ..
[20:53] <cyphermox> asac: OK to run indicators for a desktop-side bugfix, I'll make sure only indicator-bluetooth which is what I'm interested in lands ?
[20:55] <asac> cyphermox: is indicator-bluetooth on touch images?
[20:55] <daker> mhall119: anyidea why i am getting this : "module "Ubuntu.Components.Pickers" is not installed"
[20:56] <daker> mhall119: i am running saucy, the gallery has "Picker" section but it seems it's not installed :(
[20:57] <cyphermox> asac: trying to figure it out
[20:58] <cyphermox> asac: not really something in use at all if it's on the image though, it doesn't currently do anything
[20:58] <kgunn> ricmm: any chance of trying a CM10.2 ?
[20:58] <asac> cyphermox: it could though crash the world still :)
[20:58] <asac> we have seen those before
[20:58] <asac> hehe
[20:58] <cyphermox> asac: there is little risk, but some risk yes
[20:59] <cyphermox> asac: when is there ever no risk though ?
[20:59] <cyphermox> asac: we do have a bluetooth indicator, but it doesn't do anything atm on touch
[20:59] <ricmm> kgunn: usually the delta is quite huge, we could try it but it wont work, not before release at least
[20:59] <asac> cyphermox: after testing :) ... install on phone, run unity8 autopilot and one or two key apps after installing your stuff and then you are ready.
[20:59] <ricmm> kgunn: we can explore it further with rsalveti tomorrow as hes the CM migration guy
[20:59] <kgunn> ricmm: at least it would prove it to us...
[20:59] <ricmm> kgunn: what happened with our ideas from friday?
[20:59] <cyphermox> asac: ack
[20:59] <asac> cyphermox: is th change staged in trunk?
[20:59] <kgunn> thank you ricmm
[20:59] <cyphermox> asac: yeah, it's in trunk
[20:59] <ricmm> kgunn: I believe we agreed on proving via the 2-layer hack
[21:00] <asac> cyphermox: so you could take the whole indicators stack even after testing all these together
[21:00] <cyphermox> mkay. we'll see
[21:00] <asac> cyphermox: and if you are eager you could also do the app stack after testing all the apps that are under publication :)
[21:01] <asac> you could do those in one run :)
[21:01] <asac> if you do, add a landing plan entry at the end
[21:01] <asac> and ensure you update it until its really in the archive :)
[21:01] <cyphermox> possibly. perhaps I'll first get it all built in the PPA to help with testing this stuff
[21:01] <asac> cyphermox: its all built from what i see
[21:01] <asac> cyphermox: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results thats what built and staged
[21:02] <asac> cyphermox: talking about pushing apps and indicators like: paste.ubuntu.com/6147374/
[21:02] <cyphermox> awesome
[21:02] <mhall119> daker: what version of ubuntu-ui-toolkit do you have?
[21:03] <cyphermox> asac:  how come you are the one to show me this URL ? :)
[21:03] <asac> cyphermox: meaning: install all from daily-build against latest image, run all autopilots needed against it (all apps that are under consideration + unity8)
[21:03] <asac> cyphermox: its a new investion. fresh on the stand :-P
[21:03] <cyphermox> yeah, I know the drill :)
[21:03] <asac> invention
[21:03] <kgunn> ricmm: kdub tried it (sorta) but it didn't resolve the flicker
[21:03] <cyphermox> rockin'
[21:03] <daker> mhall119: ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme:i386/saucy 0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1 uptodate
[21:03] <asac> cyphermox: so yeah bookmark the url: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/cu2d/results :)
[21:03] <kdub> kgunn,  tried what?
[21:04] <ricmm> kgunn: what do you mean sorta?
[21:04] <asac> cyphermox: and feel free to land given the above approach all the low hanging fruit stacks :)
[21:04] <ricmm> kdub:
[21:04] <lool> stgraber: Heya!  I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc-android-config/+bug/1229409 and Steve L agreed that it would match your expertise really well, hope you could take a look  :-)
[21:04] <asac> hehe
[21:04] <asac> cyphermox: just add landing plan entry and go
[21:04] <cyphermox> ack
[21:04] <mhall119> daker: hmmm, that looks up to date, but I don't know when the pickers were added
[21:04] <cyphermox> It'll wait until later tonight though, I'm just about to pause for dinner/classes and get back online later
[21:05] <asac> cyphermox: ok... if indicators and apps really pass testing, thats awesome
[21:05] <asac> cyphermox: oh after testing check /var/crash
[21:05] <cyphermox> yup
[21:05] <asac> we had a unity8 crasher slip through because the tests didnt fail
[21:05] <kgunn> kdub: the relevant bits ported that would be exercised as i understand it
[21:05] <anders3408> ogra_:  here is from the working one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6147336/
[21:05] <asac> cyphermox: we expect two crasherse for unity8 ... so thats not a regression
[21:05] <asac> everything else is
[21:05] <daker> mhall119: on that version https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1
[21:05] <asac> cyphermox: those are home_scope... and unity8 itself
[21:05] <asac> ok thanks
[21:05] <asac> ttyl
[21:05] <daker> mhall119: [ Zsombor Egri ]  * Picker component, a tumbler style value selector.
[21:06] <anders3408> ogra_:  this missing / /system ro,relatime shared:17 - ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk0p19 ro,noauto_da_alloc,data=ordered
[21:06] <kdub> kgunn, ricmm i tried the 2 layer thing, (which had some kernel panic problems)
[21:06] <kgunn> kdub ricmm : which lead to no correction
[21:06] <lool> mhall119: hey, is latest music-app from PPA working for you?
[21:06] <cyphermox> asac: thanks
[21:06] <anders3408> so it does mount it all, just not /system
[21:06] <kdub> kgunn, wait, what led to no corruption :)
[21:06] <lool> mhall119: the one I got in the latest proposed image seems busted, wont find any file and doens't play when you pass --file=xyz
[21:06] <anders3408> perhaps the issue exsist in some .sh scripts that normally remounts /system in android +
[21:06] <anders3408> ?
[21:06] <kgunn> kdub: read it again
[21:07] <mhall119> lool: the latest might be trying to use the Grilo plugin I added to the landing spreadsheet
[21:07] <kdub> kgunn, sorry... dunno why i misread
[21:07] <mhall119> popey: ^^ can you confirm
[21:07] <mhall119> lool: I'm currently running stable releases though
[21:08] <lool> mhall119: so I'm not sure we want grilo as part of our SDK runtime
[21:08] <mhall119> lool: it's the API the media scanner uses, and the media scanner is part of our platform offering
[21:09] <mhall119> jhodapp: ^^
[21:09] <mhall119> right?
[21:09] <lool> mhall119: but I think we will want music-app to move to ubuntu archive anyway with a click shim wrapping it, or as an unconfined click under a different namespace -- but that's more risky
[21:09] <mhall119> lool: regardless of what we do for music-app, we need the QML plugin to expose that part of our platform service
[21:09] <lool> I'm not sure
[21:09] <jhodapp> mhall119, yes
[21:10] <anders3408> which in the demsg is this line : EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p19): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: errors=remount-ro ogra_
[21:10] <lool> mhall119: I thought apps would be exposing content over content-hub
[21:10] <lool> mediascanner for me is to pick up files in known locations and expose to scopes
[21:10] <popey> mhall119: confirm what exactly?
[21:10] <mhall119> jhodapp: can you comment on media scanner vs. content hub?
[21:10] <lool> but perhaps it's also meant to be available to apps
[21:10] <anders3408> i should so much soon add apparmor to the kernel :)
[21:10] <mhall119> popey: that the music-app is now using the media scanner and grilo api
[21:10] <jhodapp> mhall119, I don't know anything about content-hub, so I guess I can't comment
[21:11] <mhall119> jhodapp: is the media scanner and grilo API supposed to be something exposed to all apps?
[21:11] <mhall119> jdstrand: may as well get you into this conversation too
[21:11] <jhodapp> mhall119, well it was designed for Ubuntu TV, and that was the intention for that project...but it doesn't have to be the API for Touch
[21:11] <lool> jdstrand: ^ do we have apparmor for mediscanner
[21:11] <lool> mhall119: ah  :-)
[21:12] <popey> mhall119: the code on my device seems to be
[21:13] <mhall119> lool: looks like music-app switch to the grilo API in rev 118
[21:13] <jhodapp> mhall119, grilo does make things convenient
[21:13] <Ganster41> Wow, I running UI on my device!)
[21:13] <asac> bfiller: calendar plugin for EDS
[21:13] <Ganster41> But adb still not work O_o
[21:14] <asac> bfiller: any update to that one (waiting for code right now)
[21:14] <asac> ChickenCutlass: so ask 34 and 35
[21:14] <bfiller> asac: let me check, renato_ have updates been merged for calendar plugin for eds?
[21:14] <asac> those are the two you want to shoot for later this week? all in one shot?
[21:14] <asac> renato_: ^
[21:15] <asac> (not my last line... bfiller's ) :)
[21:15] <jhodapp> mhall119, so what's the issue, we don't want to ship grilo?
[21:15] <asac> ChickenCutlass: i think row 41 is also on that topic
[21:16] <ChickenCutlass> asac, yes that code is also done
[21:16] <asac> ChickenCutlass: can you update all three entries ? just a new commment on the right each with your nick in front
[21:16] <asac> thanks
[21:16] <ChickenCutlass> ack
[21:16] <bfiller> asac: what line in ask is the eds stuff?
[21:17] <asac> cyphermox: when to get your network-manager landing btw?
[21:17] <asac> bfiller: 23 :)
[21:17] <cyphermox> asac: as soon as I get the go from sergiusens and awe_ for the patch review
[21:17] <jdstrand> lool: regarding mediascanner-- no, I don't even know what that is
[21:17] <awe_> cyphermox, almost done...
[21:17] <asac> cyphermox: feels stuck for a while at that stage?
[21:17] <asac> awe_: ?
[21:17] <asac> ok
[21:17] <lool> jdstrand: ok
[21:18] <sergiusens> cyphermox, I'm sort of stacked right now
[21:18] <lool> mhall119: I've pinged pmcgowan on this too
[21:18] <pmcgowan> lool, mhall119 not sure we want that exposed to apps
[21:18] <bfiller> asac: looks like that was already released, can mark it green
[21:18] <pmcgowan> lool, expect its used when content enters the system but would need to discuss more
[21:19] <renato_> bfiller, yes
[21:19] <renato_> bfiller, and contact service too
[21:19] <renato_> bfiller, but both was merged already, just waiting the release
[21:20] <renato_> asac, ^
[21:20] <bfiller> renato_: eds plugin was released
[21:20] <mhall119> pmcgowan: well music-app needs it, so we need to provide the plugin with the music app
[21:20] <bfiller> renato_: look at rev 14 of trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/qtorganizer5-eds/trunk
[21:20] <mhall119> either packaged with the music app, or pre-installed on the platform
[21:20] <lool> mhall119: music-app is a bit special
[21:20] <lool> mhall119: we can't confine it due to this and for other reasons
[21:20] <mhall119> if we have apparmor mediation on the grilo interface already, I say we should just include it
[21:20] <renato_> bfiller, ok then EDS is fine
[21:21] <bfiller> renato_: but yes address-book-service needs a release, I've marked it so
[21:21] <mhall119> lool: music-app isn't confined?
[21:21] <asac> bfiller: ok update the ask and comment which trunks have the code that you need to land for this (from CI)
[21:21] <asac> thanks
[21:21] <pmcgowan> lool, although the music app needs access to the resulting metadata
[21:22] <mhall119> lool: pmcgowan: as far as I know, the Grilo API is already in platform
[21:22] <mhall119> it's just the QML plugin that isn't
[21:22] <pmcgowan> mhall119, if music app needs access music service should provide it?
[21:22] <mhall119> so *currently* any C++ app can use it
[21:22] <bfiller> asac: done, it's just line 80 we need
[21:22] <sergiusens> mhall119, it's pulled in by the music-app deb
[21:23] <pmcgowan> mhall119, seems we need a discussion on where the api lives
[21:23] <mhall119> sergiusens: doesn't the music scope use it?
[21:23] <mhall119> or does the music scope use the media scanner's own API?
[21:23] <sergiusens> mhall119, can't comment on that
[21:24] <cyphermox> sergiusens: all fine, awe_ was supposed to give me a quick review as well
[21:25] <asac> bfiller: ok
[21:25] <Saviq> sergiusens, btw, how does the $HOME backup work, is it copied over from the device or something? or is it a separate partition that's just not touched?
[21:25] <sergiusens> Saviq, out of band copied
[21:28] <jono> bfiller, pmcgowan, looks like my messaging bug isn't related to the history - see the bug
[21:28] <jono> I just tested again and my bug is persistent across reboots
[21:29] <asac> jdstrand: did you do the landing for ask 65?
[21:29] <asac> jdstrand: is that in build 60?
[21:29] <asac> i assume
[21:30] <bfiller> jono: I think your db is corrupt like pmcgowan's
[21:31] <jono> bfiller, hmmm
[21:31] <jono> can I rebuild the DB?
[21:31] <jono> I guess we need to figure out what is corrupting it
[21:31] <bfiller> jono: boiko is looking into providing a way to do that
[21:32] <jono> cool
[21:32] <jono> also, just filed a gallery bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gallery-app/+bug/1229430
[21:32] <bfiller> jono: temp fix is to move your db out of the way and a new one will get created, but you'll loose all your message history
[21:32] <bfiller> but should allow you to start getting messages from everyone again
[21:33] <boiko> bfiller: jono: there is an MR to fix the db without having to remove it, as soon as it get some debs produced would you mind testing it?
[21:33] <jono> bfiller, I will wait to see what you guys recommend
[21:33] <jono> boiko, of course :-)
[21:33] <jono> boiko, although I am testing the phone as part of avengers, and thus using the stable images, I would prefer to test without having to compromise using the image others are using, if possible
[21:34] <lool> mhall119: C/C++ apps would be confined by apparmor not to access mediascanner either
[21:34] <lool> mhall119: it's not a question of having the QML bindings
[21:34] <sergiusens> jono, http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/syncing-contacts-from-google-on-latest-touch-images.html
[21:35] <boiko> jono: well, this will be in the images at some point, I just wanted to confirm it fixes the problem you were having
[21:35] <jono> sergiusens, nice! :-)
[21:35] <jono> boiko, sure
[21:35] <lool> mhall119: we should approve additions of the grilo QML bindings into the image because music-app uses it and will keep using it unconfined anyway
[21:35] <pmcgowan> jono, that was in m comment, need to delete the file
[21:35] <bfiller> jono: bug triaged
[21:35] <jono> I will keep my db and test when it hits the image
[21:35] <lool> mhall119: but these shouldn't be part of official API
[21:35] <lool> or runtime
[21:35] <jono> thanks bfiller
[21:36] <boiko> jono: maybe you can make a backup copy of the sms database, run the tests, restore the original file and reflash with whatever image you are using to continue testing
[21:37] <jono> boiko, sounds good
[21:37] <daker> mhall119: i just reinstalled the package, same thing Picker module missing :(
[21:38] <daker> mhall119: i am running the latest version which supposed to have the picker
[21:48] <awe_> cyphermox, just sent you review comments
[21:49] <jdstrand> I just now used system-image-cli and apport is reported all kinds of errors after reboot
[21:50] <jdstrand> s/reported/is generating error reports/
[21:50] <jdstrand> I think there is something wrong with this image
[21:50] <jdstrand> 'dpkg -l' gives:
[21:50] <jdstrand> dpkg-query: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
[21:50] <jdstrand> asac, lool: ^
[21:51] <jdstrand> this is mako
[21:52] <lool> jdstrand: that is what I mentioned earlier
[21:52] <lool> jdstrand: I suspect it's a quick reboot after applying it
[21:53] <lool> jdstrand: did you get this upon upgrade
[21:53] <lool> jdstrand: Can you please report this against system-image with details of what you were upgrading from / to, whether it was writable_image or whether you had remounted it rw in the past
[21:53] <jdstrand> lool: sorry I didn't see backscroll. I did 'system-image-cli -vv' from adb shell, it rebooted, here I am
[21:54] <lool> jdstrand: not backscroll, I mentioned this in our call earlier today
[21:54] <lool> that I got this error once
[21:54] <jdstrand> ah that
[21:54] <jono> who is taking care of audio on the phone?
[21:54] <jdstrand> I'm not sure what I upgraded from. I don't use writable_image, but I had remounted it rw at one point
[21:55] <jono> I just got a really weird bug - rebooted the phone while on a call (as it would not hang up) and now no audio plays on the phone at all
[21:58] <jono> pmcgowan, any idea who I speak to to resolve this sound issue?
[21:58] <jono> literally no audio from the phone now
[21:58] <jono> including calls
[21:59] <pmcgowan> jono, diwic, he is offline now
[21:59] <jono> damn
[21:59] <pmcgowan> jono, aboher reboot would clear it?
[21:59] <jono> pmcgowan, reboots don't fix it
[21:59] <pmcgowan> hmmm
[22:00] <pmcgowan> jono, so either volume got muted or hw is off
[22:00] <jono> pmcgowan, vol is up
[22:00] <jono> not sure about the hardware
[22:00] <jono> is there a way I can check to see if the hardware is up?
[22:01] <pmcgowan> I suspect but dont know, sergiusens you know?
[22:01] <pmcgowan> ChickenCutlass, might
[22:01] <ChickenCutlass> pmcgowan, not sure about the audio.
[22:01] <jono> this is odd
[22:02] <jono> the phone got into this state because I dialed my voicemail and couldn't hang up the call
[22:02] <jono> so rebooted
[22:02] <jono> ok, will file a bug
[22:03] <jono> pmcgowan, where should I file this bug?
[22:03] <jono> ubuntu-touch-preview I assume
[22:03] <pmcgowan> jono, not there anymore
[22:03] <pmcgowan> jono, thinking
[22:03] <ChickenCutlass> jono, can you reflash your phone -- just to see if it is something persistent on the filesystem
[22:04] <jono> ChickenCutlass, will do, will this destroy my user data?
[22:04] <ChickenCutlass> jono, it should back it up.
[22:04] <jono> ChickenCutlass, phablet-flash ubuntu-system --wipe ?
[22:04] <ChickenCutlass> jono, not --wipe
[22:05] <jono> ok
[22:05] <jono> doing it now, thanks
[22:05] <pmcgowan> jono, you are too good at this dogfooding thing
[22:05] <cwayne> jdstrand, ping
[22:05] <jono> pmcgowan, lol
[22:06] <pmcgowan> s/too/no/
[22:08] <jono> pmcgowan, haha
[22:08] <jono> fair. :-)
[22:09] <mhall119> daker: do you have Pickers in /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ ?
[22:11] <daker> mhall119: no
[22:12] <daker> mhall119: remove the package, then watched that folder then installed the package but nothing there
[22:12] <daker> removed*
[22:15] <mhall119> daker: hmmm, maybe it wasn't actually in that version?
[22:15] <lool> mhall119: can you just add a depend from music-app on the qml bindings you need?
[22:15] <mhall119> jono: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/api/qml/sdk-1.0/search/?query=model
[22:15] <mhall119> lool: sure
[22:15] <lool> mhall119: grilo thing
[22:15] <jono> mhall119, NICE!
[22:16] <daker> mhall119: see here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1
[22:16] <jono> mhall119, does that search across all APIs?
[22:17] <jono> e.g. Qt.Quick and Ubuntu.*
[22:17] <mhall119> jono: yes, it's confined to topic (qml) and version (sdk-1.0), but otherwise will search everything in there
[22:17] <jono> mhall119, holy balls, that is awesome :-)
[22:18] <mhall119> well let's not get carried away, it's just search
[22:18] <mhall119> but it sure is handy :)
[22:20] <jono> mhall119, it is very cool when hacking
[22:20] <lool> mhall119: if you had a sec to review https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/music-app/unquote-desktop-file/+merge/187115 too  :-)
[22:21] <zzarr> hashcode, is it hard to manipulate a launcher?
[22:21] <mhall119> lool: the dependency is already there
[22:21] <lool> mhall119: searching API docs >> pretty cool, thanks for that  :-)
[22:21] <lool> mhall119: good, BTW I actually had seen it was already in the image and it didn't fix music-app for me
[22:21] <lool> but I hadn't checked whether it was already a dependency
[22:22] <lool> mhall119: (the merge proposal is for something else)
[22:22] <lool>   upstart-app-launch now correctly handles %f (but will cope with "%f" too ;-).
[22:22] <lool> ups
[22:22] <mhall119> ok, so something else wrong with the music-app
[22:22] <mhall119> lool: can you file a bug report?
[22:23] <lool> yup
[22:24] <mhall119> thanks
[22:24] <lool> hmm there are pending changes in bzr
[22:24] <lool> should try these first I guess
[22:29] <olli> mhall119, jono https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1229448 this is the music-app powerd bug I mentioned earlier
[22:29] <olli> would be great if we could get this resolved by EOW
[22:30] <jono> thanks olli
[22:30] <olli> Chicken offered help regarding the API
[22:30] <jono> mhall119, ^^
[22:30] <jono> can you take care of this with the music app devs for olli?
[22:30] <mhall119> olli: offered help to who? one of the music-app developers?
[22:30] <olli> mhall119, offered me to help the app author
[22:30] <jono> damn, ChickenCutless was wrong, running phablet-flash destroyed my data
[22:31] <jono> which means I can't test the messaging bug boiko
[22:31] <jono> sorry
[22:31] <mhall119> ok, I'll try and get more info from him tomorrow
[22:31] <olli> mhall119, thx
[22:31] <boiko> jono: no problems
[22:31]  * mhall119 hopes it doesn't require C++ to do this
[22:32] <boiko> jono: there are very good chances it was the same bug pmcgowan hit, and if that's the case, it is already fixed :)
[22:34] <jono> boiko, cool, I will ask my wife to text now my db is recreated and see if I get it
[22:34] <lool> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1229453 is the music-app bug confirmed with latest bzr / PPA version
[22:35] <lool> looks like some broken init, some db not created
[22:38] <jono> boiko, I see my wife's texts now, so I think that fixed it
[22:38] <jono> :-)
[22:38] <boiko> jono: great! :)
[22:39] <jdstrand> cwayne: hey
[22:53] <foxsdaddy67> hello
[23:14] <lool> stgraber: just saw your reply; FYI, jdstrand had a similar corruption applying an update
[23:14] <lool> stgraber: I dont know what's causing this, would you know that we're actually unmounting the real FS properly?  the one containing the loopmounted FSEs
[23:24] <cwayne> jdstrand, hey, i noticed an issue with click packages + apparmor on our customized images
[23:25] <cwayne> specifically, we have QML themes that live in /custom/usr/share/themes, and the click packages are looking for those and getting denied
[23:25] <jdstrand> cwayne: can you file a bug against apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu?
[23:25] <cwayne> jdstrand, sure thing
[23:26] <jdstrand> thanks, I'll update the policy
[23:26] <cwayne> jdstrand, any specific details that would be helpful? or pretty much just what i already said
[23:26] <jdstrand> cwayne: what you said is fine. it would be nice to see the denial in kern.log. is this blocking anything or can I do the upload tomorrow?
[23:27] <jdstrand> cwayne: I have to go this second, but will check back in a bit
[23:35] <AskUbuntu> Will UBUNTU work with RAZR i (motorola XT890) ? | http://askubuntu.com/q/349280
[23:39] <cwayne> jdstrand, no worries, tomorrow is more than fine :)


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