[09:16] <tolpico> iKernel, doesnt seem to work, but ubottu gave the link to renable it, it works now..
[09:16] <iKernel> !thanks
[09:16] <lstarnes> soreau: I don't recall that channel having existed
[09:16] <zl3cat> I do not think he really wanted an answer..
[09:17] <tolpico> ubottu, oh really, such an intelligetn bot, amazing
[09:18] <raj> need help on screen resolution
[09:18] <zl3cat> raj: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.busted  then log out and see what happens?
[09:18] <soreau> lstarnes: See for yourself /j #intel-gfx
[09:19] <raj> its coming no such directory found
[09:19] <zl3cat> raj: ahh, ok
[09:19] <raj> need help on screen resolution
[09:19] <zl3cat> well that is very weird.
[09:19] <soreau> lstarnes: As  matter of fact, there are a number of reputable open source graphics driver developers who idle there
[09:20] <raj> zlcat: so do u know how to fix it
[09:20] <raj> zlcat: ubuntu looks ugly in 800x600
[09:20]  * corpse`grinder _ DeaD`UntiL`DarK _
[09:20] <raj> need 1024x768
[09:20] <TimbukFive> then change this :d
[09:20] <raj> querie on screen resolution
[09:20] <|jonathan|> :P
[09:21] <iKernel> brb, Xorg kill
[09:21] <raj> any one there
[09:21] <raj> to help
[09:21] <TimbukFive> driver issue?
[09:21] <zl3cat> raj:  perhaps the easiest answer is just get an older nvidia or ati card and give up on the onboard video chipset.
[09:21] <TimbukFive> nvida?
[09:21] <TimbukFive> nvida works fine for me, go no nvida website and download this :s
[09:21] <BlouBlou> !anybody | raj
[09:21] <raj> so ubuntu does not work on intel
[09:21] <lstarnes> raj: it should
[09:22] <niek33> hi all
[09:22] <zl3cat> raj:  normally it works very well with intel..
[09:22] <BlouBlou> niek33: Hi
[09:22] <lstarnes> raj: there were issues with 9.04, but I think those issues were resolved before 9.10 was released
[09:22] <niek33> Quick question.. i am new to IRC, but im trying to connect with a PHP channel.. does anybody know which channel i should have?
[09:22] <lstarnes> niek33: ##php
[09:22] <BlouBlou> niek33: /join ##php
[09:22] <shazbotmcnasty> Where can one get awesome wallpapers?
[09:22] <raj> lstarnes : but still i am not getting the resolution
[09:23] <lstarnes> niek33: note that some channels, like ##php, require registration with nickservf
[09:23] <lstarnes> *nickserv
[09:23] <soreau> niek33: /j ##php
[09:23] <niek33> nickserv?
[09:23] <zl3cat> shazbotmcnasty:  gnome-look.org or deviantart.com
[09:23] <raj> so what shall i do now quit ubuntu ?
[09:23] <lstarnes> raj: you might need to manually configure the resolution on /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:23] <raj> need advices
[09:23] <lstarnes> niek33: the nickname service
[09:23] <BlouBlou> niek33: Feel free to ask in #freenode about freenode's services
[09:23] <lstarnes> !register | niek33
[09:23] <shazbotmcnasty> zl3cat, thanks
[09:23] <TimbukFive> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:24] <raj> need help on custom of screen resolution
[09:24] <TimbukFive> there look for resolution
[09:24] <lstarnes> TimbukFive: that should be gksudo, NOT sudo
[09:24] <TimbukFive> sudo works fine for me
[09:24] <lstarnes> TimbukFive: gedit is a graphical application
[09:24] <lstarnes> !gksudo | TimbukFive
[09:24] <niek33> /msg nickserv register ikbenniek<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:24] <TimbukFive> works anyway :s
[09:24] <zl3cat> !worksforme | TimbukFive
[09:24] <iKernel> I had to reboot =\
[09:25] <lstarnes> niek33: try again.  Make sure nothing is before the / (also, change your password)
[09:25] <niek33> lol, alright
[09:25] <optimizer> anyone have suggestion for an item of clothing taht will keep you warm whie coding? like a big bathrobe, but reversed
[09:25] <TimbukFive> hm okay dont know :s iam a little bit newby :s
[09:25] <BlouBlou> lstarnes: Example; gksudo nautilus or sudo nautilus << Both works without errors as sudo
[09:25] <lstarnes> niek33: after registering, you will need to look for a verification code in your email
[09:25] <zl3cat> TimbukFive:  works for me too, but around here I tell ppl to use gksu because that's proper ;)
[09:26] <lstarnes> BlouBlou: but sudo handles the environment improperly for graphical applications meant to be used by users
[09:26] <zero> Hello everyone
[09:26] <zl3cat> optimizer:  big fluffy blanket
[09:26] <optimizer> perferabbly somthing that i can stick arms into
[09:26] <zl3cat> optimizer:  big fluffy blanket with armholes ;)
[09:27] <optimizer> well, and provide warmth to arms too
[09:27] <Guest32571> So, I was doing some prodding around with CUDA enhanced applications, and found myself at a hard-lock and had to hard-reset my desktop, and it appears my session has become corrupt (or something along those lines) I can login to gnome failsafe, but not my gnome session
[09:27] <iKernel> optimizer, I've seen these blankets with sleeves on them on TV for (only!!) 60 bucks, but you can get the same thing online for 10
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: what should I google for?
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: cani get them wth 3 easy payments of 19.95 ?
[09:28] <optimizer> iKernel: if I hurry now, will they throw in some booklet on how to use the blankets too?
[09:28] <iKernel> lmfao
[09:28] <Guest32571> I know in older releases, I was able to simply copy my gnome-session file from session-default and be able to start back up, but in karmic I can't seem to find the file, anybody know where I should look next?
[09:28] <zl3cat> !ot | optimizer:  this isn't really an ubuntu support question..
[09:29] <iKernel> !oops | Guest32571
[09:29] <optimizer> is there anyway to control an electric blanket from ubuntu? what models of electric blankets support ubuntu control via usb?
[09:29]  * corpse`grinder _ DeaD`UntiL`DarK _
[09:29] <paolo> ciao
[09:30] <iKernel> optimizer, hasn't been invented yet, sounds like the perfect laptop product
[09:30] <Almindor> anyone per chance knows how to convert a Dia diagram (database, not UML toolset) into a SQL table creation script?
[09:30] <iKernel> paolo, doesn't that mean bye?
[09:30] <minimec> Guest32571: rename .gnome and .gnome2 --> .gnome-old .gnome2-old. Try to login then
[09:30] <Almindor> I tried multiple tools but they all expect UML toolset
[09:30] <zl3cat> optimizer:  optical relay connected to a spare parallel port is traditional (I used to run the coffee machine that way)
[09:30] <paolo> bye
[09:30] <digitalchemist> it's hi and bye, isn't it?
[09:30] <corpse`grinder> ¬       _·(   hii   )·_       ¬
[09:30] <Guest32571> minimec: thanks, I'll try that.
[09:31] <iKernel> zl3cat, but then you have to write your own program
[09:31] <iKernel> i gotta get smthn 2 drenk
[09:31] <grawity> corpse`grinder: Can you please turn off that?
[09:31] <zl3cat> iKernel:  there's plenty of little c snippets that show you how, it's pretty simple to do.
[09:31] <corpse`grinder> ¬       _·(    _(  grawity  )_ ok im turning it off   )·_       ¬
[09:32] <corpse`grinder> grawity is it ok now?
[09:32] <zl3cat> iKernel:  http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Coffee.html
[09:32] <zetheroo> do you have to reboot after making changes to fstab?
[09:32] <digitalchemist> @zetheroo, not necessarily
[09:32] <lstarnes> zetheroo: not usually.  just remount everything
[09:32] <digitalchemist> mount -a
[09:32] <zl3cat> zetheroo:  usually just 'mount -a' if you've added a filesystem
[09:32] <zetheroo> oh ok
[09:32] <lstarnes> zetheroo: if / was modified, it might be a good idea to reboot
[09:33] <zl3cat> 'sudo mount -a' rather
[09:33] <zl3cat> .. since you're NOT running as root, I hope ;)
[09:33] <grawity> corpse`grinder: yes, much better now.
[09:34] <zl3cat> and if you changed / I think "sudo mount / -o remount' works
[09:34] <francesco_> Happy Christmas
[09:34] <zl3cat> Oh wait, no it won't
[09:35] <francesco_> every one say the italian channel?
[09:35] <lstarnes> !it | francesco_
[09:35] <zl3cat> !it | francesco_
[09:35] <zl3cat> damn too slow
[09:35] <francesco_> thx
[09:35] <zetheroo> I am trying to get a partition to mount automatically
[09:35] <zetheroo> in fstab
[09:35] <hi> hi
[09:35] <hi> happy chritmas to all
[09:36] <digitalchemist> @zetheroo: the option should be 'auto'
[09:36] <digitalchemist> (90% sure)
[09:36] <zl3cat> !ntfs | zetheroo any of this helpful?
[09:36] <Guest64073> need help on screen resolution
[09:36] <zl3cat> !fstab
[09:36] <zl3cat> or any of that ;)
[09:37] <digitalchemist> wow, bot-master   :-)
[09:37] <zer_x252> minimec: I tried renaming .gnome2 and .gnome2-private to .gnome2-old and .gnome2-private-old, I was unable to locate a .gnome to rename, I tried logging in and its still doing the same thing, I get an Nvidia splash screen for a half a second and then it boots me back out to login
[09:37] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  for ntfs to be readable by ordinary users, you have to set masks and stuff...
[09:37] <Guest64073> any body there to help
[09:38] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  bot-abuser... I'm too lasy to actually help so I just drop !bot triggers at everyone
[09:38] <zer_x252> Guest64073: what exactly to do with screen resolution?
[09:38] <zer_x252> Anybody got any advice on what to do about a corrupt gnome session?
[09:38] <zer_x252> default session boots me back out to login but I'm able to login to failsafe
[09:38] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: I've never had to do anything special for NTFS ... but I hardly use it anyway
[09:38] <Guest64073> i need 104x768 resolution
[09:39] <zer_x252> 1024x768 I presume?, if you look at your gnome-panel at the menu's, there's one labeled "System" click it and go to preferences, then display
[09:39] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: Will System->Preferences->Dispaly work?
[09:39] <minimec> zer_x252: hmm... next rename .dbus --> .dbus-old ...
[09:39] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: i need 1024x768 resolution but i am getting only two which are less then i am prefering
[09:39] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: ati or nvidia?
[09:40] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  well if you just mount it from 'places' ubuntu takes care of that, if you want to add it to /etc/fstab and have it read-write I think you need to add a umask option.. and make it ntfs-3g rather that 'auto' which will be the older ntfs support
[09:40] <zer_x252> minimec: thanks, I'll try that now, hopefully be back in a few =D
[09:40] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: u there
[09:40] <Guest64073> zer_zx252: did u get my querie
[09:40] <iKernel> om nom humcha nom nom
[09:41] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: is that for more than one users -- or just one?
[09:41] <zl3cat> Guest64073:  the other thing you might try is find a local LUG and get some hands-on help...
[09:42] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: do you know if you have an ATI card, and Nvidia card, or something else?
[09:42] <digitalchemist> *an Nvidia card
[09:42] <Guest64073> intel
[09:42] <mix22891> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[09:42] <zl3cat> digitalchemist:  well, mounting it from 'places' will I think mount it owned/accessable by the current user, putting it in /etc/fstab you have to explicitly set owner and permissions in the options
[09:42] <zer_x252> minimec: seems that didn't do the trick either...
[09:42] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: mine is intel
[09:42] <digitalchemist> zl3cat: that'd explain why I haven't run into that yet. cool, thanks.
[09:43] <Guest64073> intel graphic card
[09:43] <r3za> hi , guys , how can i import my email from Thunbird in windows to evolution in Ubuntu karmic ?
[09:43] <Gumby> hi all.  does anyone know if there is a way to take a CD iso and make it into a DVD iso?  I'm in dire need of a bootable disk but all I have are DVDs
[09:43] <zl3cat> Gumby:  afaik they're identical.. just burn it to a DVD and it should be sweet
[09:43] <shazbotmcnasty> listen to zl3cat
[09:43] <mgolisch> Gumby: actualy i think you can burn a cd iso onto a dvd no problem
[09:43] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: mine is intel  845 graphic card
[09:43] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: I haven't done anything with those yet ... with the nvidia or ati cards they have their own control panels ... have you searched much about the problem?
[09:43] <shazbotmcnasty> or, use a usb, it's easier in my opinion
[09:44] <Gumby> ok cool.  I'll try that out
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: yes
[09:44] <Devrethman> Gumby: Just burn the CD onto a DVD ISO
[09:44] <minimec> zer_x252: we can confinue with .gconf and .gconfd... You can rename back the other folders...
[09:44] <iKernel> Gumby, yup, they're the same thing only the dvd iso is larger
[09:44] <Devrethman> wait, that didn't make sense
[09:44] <Devrethman> burn the CD ISO onto a DVD
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: but i am not getting answer
[09:44] <Gumby> Devrethman: not really.  lol
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> get the iso, get a clean usb stick, install unetbootin - and unpack the iso onto the usb
[09:44] <Gumby> hehe
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> it's awseom
[09:44] <zl3cat> iKernel:  the dvd iso 'can' be larger .. it doesn't have to be ;)
[09:44] <digitalchemist> Guest64073: 9.04, 9.10 or what?
[09:44] <shazbotmcnasty> awsome*
[09:44] <Guest64073> 9.10
[09:44] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: 9.10
[09:45] <iKernel> zl3cat, they don't call dvd iso's dvd iso's unless they're larger than what a CD can hold
[09:45] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: its new version
[09:45] <zer_x252> iKernel, moot point, the only reason ISO's are ever 700mb or 4.7gb is due to zeroes being written to the file
[09:46] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: do u have any idea
[09:46] <Guest64073> digitalchemist: r not
[09:46] <iKernel> zer_x252, bullbunkels, who would be manure brained enough to do that?
[09:46] <zer_x252> Guest64073 what model intel chip do you have?
[09:46] <digitalchemist> guest64703: I was searching for info ... just read http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:46] <zer_x252> Guest64073: also, is it in a desktop board, or a Laptop?
[09:47] <iKernel> hm now what was I going to do
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : its 8945 model
[09:47] <Raydiation> wheres the simplicity of the former menu.lst?
[09:47] <iKernel> I've been wondering about that ^ too
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : its a desktop board
[09:47] <zer_x252> Guest64073: read what digitalchemist posted,it should help
[09:47] <Raydiation> really grub 2 sucks
[09:47] <zl3cat> lol raj, just stick a better supported agp or pci video card in the box that's the easy answer
[09:47] <Guest64073> zer_x252 : again post it
[09:48] <zer_x252> http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:48] <iKernel> Raydiation, it wouldn't be hard to introduce a menu.lst into grub 2 i should think...
[09:48] <Raydiation> no one needs an uberbootloader
[09:48] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I think it's got potential ... they definitely changed their approach though
[09:48] <zl3cat> grub2 confuses and frightens me...
[09:48] <Raydiation> does anyone know btw how to get the countdown off grub2 btw?
[09:49] <zer_x252> Anybody else have any pointers on session issues?
[09:49] <iKernel> Raydiation, press the down arrow key ;)
[09:49] <zl3cat> !grub2 | Raydiation probably in here somewhere...
[09:49] <Raydiation> iKernel: hehe
[09:50] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: do you want no auto-boot or to boot automatically into one without the menu?
[09:50] <iKernel> Raydiation, it's a miracle, someone finally caught the format of my sarcastic jokes
[09:51] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I think it's in /etc/default/grub
[09:51] <Raydiation> ah ok, thx for the wikilink
[09:51] <Raydiation> there were so many files in the boot dir that ive overseen grub.cfg
[09:51] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: I'm not sure about GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT versus GRUB_TIMEOUT
[09:52] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: best practice is to not directly edit grub.cfg ... it isn't even write-enabled by default
[09:52] <hi> need help on screen resolution
[09:52] <zl3cat> Raydiation:  you're not supposed to edut grub.cfg directly though, it gets rebuilt by scripts... the real setting is somewhere in /etc/grub2 iirc
[09:52] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: the new approach is to edit grub's generator files then run something like grub-update as root
[09:52] <iKernel> !ot | all lame n00bs r belong 2 dis chan
[09:52] <iKernel> lol
[09:53] <Raydiation> ehm lol, you cant edit the file?
[09:53] <Guest23799> how to customize the screen resolution
[09:53] <zl3cat> ok, screen resolution guy is just getting annoying now
[09:53] <digitalchemist> Raydiation: it'll get wiped out on when an upgrade happens or some other trigger sets it off
[09:53] <iKernel> Guest23799, you can't, there's only a finite number of screen resolutions your card supports
[09:53] <Guest23799> need help on screen resolution
[09:54] <iKernel> Guest23799, if you're the dude with the stupid intel chipset that is a piece of crap, READ this: http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:54] <xorwhy> How do I set up a server?
[09:54] <Guest23799> ikernel: how can u say that
[09:54] <iKernel> xorwhy, install ubuntu-server I guess :)
[09:54] <zl3cat> Guest23799:  stop coming back and asking the same question over and over under different names and then ignoreing all the answers, it's getting annoying ok?
[09:54] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: server for host what? web page, irc server...?
[09:54] <xorwhy> K, I'll start with that ikernel
[09:55] <zer_x252> minimec: just tried .gconf and .gconfd, same issue still
[09:55] <iKernel> xorwhy, whoa, ubuntu-server is like an alternative ubuntu distribution, you'd be best off with a clean installation
[09:55] <xorwhy> I'd like to host an openarena game server, as well as have a network share for storange available to my LAN
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> and ubuntu server doesn't come with GUI
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Well, sudo apt-get install openarena openarena-data openarena-server
[09:56] <Guest23799> zl3cat: no one is answering my problem
[09:56] <iKernel> xorwhy, ah well, all you need for that is the samba server and what BlouBlou said
[09:56] <iKernel> Guest23799, http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Then use; openarena-server; and type commands there
[09:56] <Guest23799> zl3cat: can u help me
[09:56] <xorwhy> Ah, OK great, thanks for the help
[09:56] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: No problem :)
[09:57] <zl3cat> Guest23799, if you're the dude with the stupid intel chipset that is a piece of crap, READ this: http://www.ubuntudiary.co.cc/2009/05/xorgconf-finally-solved-for-intel-845.html
[09:57] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: (If you are via router don't forget forwarding OA's ports)
 ikernel: how can u say that
[09:57] <xorwhy> I'm wondering if it's possible to run the openarena server, and play on that server from the machine serving it?
[09:57] <xorwhy> Ah, good tip BlouBlou
[09:58] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: Yes, it is, because openarena-server works in a terminal (or tty)
[09:58] <xorwhy> Fantastic, you guys are great
[09:58] <BlouBlou> ^_^
[09:58] <iKernel> xorwhy, you could probably connect to <IP_ADDRESS> that way you won't have to go via the router... or does IP stack do that by default
[09:58] <iKernel> =)
[09:58] <iKernel> *warm fuzzy feeling*
[09:59] <zl3cat> iKernel:  it figures out the routing itself
[09:59] <iKernel> ah
[09:59] <ubuntuuser> hi
[09:59] <Guest23799> ikernel: mine is 945 mother board
[09:59] <iKernel> hence, no difference in performance from connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:00] <Guest23799> ikernel: u gave me wrong link
[10:00] <iKernel> Guest23799, yes but you are having the same problem so follow that guide
[10:00] <iKernel> OMFG
[10:00] <iKernel> Guest23799, how about you just TRY it
[10:00] <Guest23799> ikernel: in that first command is only not working
[10:00] <zer_x252> wait wait wait
[10:00] <xorwhy> <IP_ADDRESS> doesn't go through the router, it'd give me a little ping advantage to not use 192.168.x.x right?
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> really need hlep
[10:00] <ubuntuuser> please
[10:00] <zer_x252> 945 is a chipset
[10:00] <iKernel> yes
[10:01] <zl3cat> iKernel:  I came to the conclusion about a half hour ago that that guy probably doesn't even run ubuntu and is just trolling
[10:01] <zer_x252> a chipset without graphics acceleration
[10:01] <Guest23799> ya 945 is a chip set
[10:01] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: If you connect via local network you'll get 0 ping
[10:01] <digitalchemist> heh ... first heard 845 then 8945 .. now it's the 945
[10:01] <BlouBlou> xorwhy: However if you connect to server via internet option, you'll get 20-30 ping or something
[10:01] <zl3cat> that was BEFORE he started coming back under different names
[10:02] <zer_x252> we need to know what graphics acceleration you are using in order to troubleshoot why you are unable to change your resolution, for all I know your using a geforce FX 5200
[10:02] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:02] <Guest23799> i am having graphic card inbuilt
[10:02] <iKernel> xorwhy, because it has to go up to your exchange and back if you use internet option
[10:02] <zer_x252> Guest23799: which card is the important part
[10:02] <Guest23799> ikernel: do u know the command to see my graphic card
[10:03] <iKernel> Guest23799, lspci
[10:03] <zl3cat> bah, I have better things to do...
[10:03] <Guest23799> zer_x252: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:03] <iKernel> Guest23799, i think everyone who's in this channel has already figured that out by now. Why don't you just go up the street and buy yourself a cheap nvidia graphics card for 100 bucks, which will perform 5x better than your crap inbuilt one, and then you won't have any trouble with screen resolution?
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> I need help , just freshly install 9.10 but the gnome panel freeze , it stuck at login loading screen .Sometimes manage to boot in but some times doesnt
[10:04] <Guest23799> ikernel: ok bye
[10:04] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, just to make sure, you're not trying to run this on an antique are you?
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> how to restore default of gnome panel on karmic
[10:04] <zer_x252> Guest23799 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=420185&highlight=intel+video
[10:04] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: try making a backup of your xorg.conf, deleting it from /etc then rebooting
[10:04] <zer_x252> 15 seconds in google
[10:04] <ubuntuuser> ikernel what is antique?
[10:04] <Guest23799> ikernel: i will do it my self
[10:05] <iKernel> digitalchemist, won't work
[10:05] <zer_x252> Guest23799: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455525
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntulog, anything Pentium 3 and below
[10:05] <zer_x252> try that link
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, , anything Pentium 3 and below
[10:05] <ubuntuuser> ikernel no
[10:05] <zer_x252> Guest 23799: its a link with someone else with your EXACT CHIPSET having the EXACT issue
[10:05] <iKernel> ubuntuuser, ok
[10:05] <Guest23799> digitalchemist : i dont know that back up process tat all
[10:05] <ubuntuuser> Kernal i works well when I install but once I add another panel to the bottom it freeze
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal now it getting worst freeze at login screen
[10:06] <porKi> Which is the best IDE for learning basic C and C++ programs ?
[10:06] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal i just wanted to load it back to default or edit it
[10:06] <ubuntuuser> iKernal i am using live cd now
[10:07] <ubuntuuser> iKernal how do I edit the config file of gonme panel ?
[10:07] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: if you can get to a command line under your user name, try mv ~/.gnome2 ~/.gnome2-old, and logging in
[10:07] <zer_x252> that should load default gnome configuration
[10:07] <digitalchemist> that's a little heavy-handed ...
[10:08] <zer_x252> if your on karmic ><
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> hopefully yes on f1  , but moving it to old ?
[10:08] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: the file might be at ~/.gconf/apps/panel/profiles/default/
[10:08] <digitalchemist> > toplevels/top_panel/%gconf.xml
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 , does it really work ?
[10:08] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemis : i can't access it on a live cd
[10:09] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mount your hard drive?   :-)
[10:09] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: I'm not certain as thats the gnome-session config, and you are having issues with gnome-panel
[10:09] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: however, that doesnt mean that something in your session isn't fooling with gnome-panel
[10:10] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: not working
[10:10] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : it only freeze only when I add new panel
[10:10] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: the command failed?
[10:10] <digitalchemist> Does /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist on your system?
[10:10] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: yes
[10:11] <niek33> Hi all!
[10:11] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: so you should be able to move the xorg.conf file to another location and reboot
[10:11] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: mine drivers are up to date but still i am not able to get the resolution
[10:11] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: if you can login to your gnome sometimes, if you can get in I would try starting synaptic, press alt+f2, and type killall gnome-panel, then alt+f2 and typing gksudo synaptic, find gnome-panel and completely remove it, after thats done, reinstall it from the repository
[10:11] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : digitalchemist : how do I check my log when cause it to be freeze ?
[10:12] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: ok
[10:12] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: my guess would be somewhere under /var/log, but that's an area I'm very unfamiliar with
[10:12] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: complete removal using synaptic will also delete all configuration files, once you reinstall it from the repositories, you should be able to restart it with gnome-panel
[10:13] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: how to move xorg.conf
[10:13] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 , there is no way to edit it or remove the panel ?
[10:13] <zer_x252> killall gnome-panel
[10:13] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: it looks like the configuration files have been moved .. they start at ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[10:13] <zer_x252> jk
[10:14] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: well, you can keep it from starting up
[10:14] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: i need the correct path
[10:14] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: what digitalchemist said
[10:14] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list
[10:15] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: remove 'panel' from that key, and you'll be able to boot without gnome-panel starting
[10:15] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : digitalchemist : I am getting very confuse right now , what step should I do  ? Now I am using live cd ,
[10:15] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: follow what digitalchemist is saying, the method I said will not work
[10:15] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:i am not having xorg.conf
[10:15] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mount your hard drive so you can access your configuration files
[10:15] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:in the path u mentiioned
[10:16] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: so you don't have one already. nevermind, this won't fix it. I've had xorg.conf cause problems before and deleting it can fix them sometimes... but you don't even have one
[10:16] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: that's all I know about this. I don't have any intel video hardware
[10:16] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:ya so what to do now
[10:17] <Guest23799> digitalchemist:ok thanks for ur help
[10:17] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : mounted now , what should I do next ?
[10:17] <Guest23799> digitalchemist: how can i get help from ubuntu people any customer care like taht
[10:17] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: forums maybe
[10:18] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: navigate to /home/<your_name>/.gconf/desktop/gnome/session
[10:18] <minimec> Guest23799: What is your xorg problem exactly?
[10:19] <zer_x252> minimec, what should my next steps be on this login issue?
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : nothing inse the .gconf
[10:19] <Guest23799> minimec: i am not getting bettet resolution
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : nothing inside the .gconf
[10:19] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: there's nothing in ~/.gconf?
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : no desktop
[10:19] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : yep nothing
[10:19] <Guest23799> minimec: xorg.conf file is missing too
[10:20] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: umm... there's not even an apps folder under .gconf?
[10:20] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it said The folder contents could not be displayed.
[10:20] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of ".gconf".
[10:20] <Guest23799> minimec: do u have any idea what i am talking about
[10:21] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: ok ... "sudo su"; "cd /media/<drive_id>/home/<your_user>/.gconf"
[10:21] <minimec> zer_x252: Hmmm. You didn't get a solution for your problem... Don't really know how I can help you further...
[10:21] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: basically, switch to root, navigate to the location of your home folder on that mounted drive
[10:22] <zer_x252> minimec: T_T thanks for the help, looking like a reinstall ><
[10:22] <Guest23799> any one who has grip in resolution custom wize
[10:22] <lordganesh> how to do port forwarding in kubuntu
[10:22] <minimec> Guest23799: What resolution do you want and what do you get? How do you connect? VGA? DVI? HDMI?
[10:23] <minimec> zer_x252: I would simply create a new user and copy your files to that directory an change the rights with 'chown'...
[10:23] <Guest23799> vga,i need 1024x768 resolution i  am having present 800x600 and 600x480
[10:23] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I can't find my "drive_id"
[10:24] <Guest23799> minimec : vga,i need 1024x768 resolution i  am having present 800x600 and 600x480
[10:24] <lordganesh> how to schedule tasks in ubuntu
[10:24] <minimec> Guest23799: Did you ever have an approriate resoultion with that screen? With other OS or version of ubuntu?
[10:25] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: if you've mounted the drive (like you said earlier), you can check its location by looking at the output of the command 'mount'
[10:25] <digitalchemist> !cron | lordganesh
[10:26] <Guest23799> minimec : yes in os i am fine resolution
[10:26] <Guest23799> minimec : yes in windows os its fine
[10:27] <minimec> Guest23799: Can you do an lspci in a gnome-terminal and pastebin me the results?
[10:27] <Guest23799> minimec : ya sure
[10:28] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : the file is hidden under termial
[10:28] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: so you've found your home directory?
[10:29] <zer_x252> minimec: exactly what do you mean by chowning a new user directory?
[10:29] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : yes but when I list it doesn't show the hidden .gconf
[10:29] <grawity> ubuntuuser: ls -a
[10:29] <Guest23799> minimec : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4b03540e
[10:29] <digitalchemist> Guest23799: minimec: this might be relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068673
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> thanks grawity
[10:30] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yeah, what grawity said ...
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am in now at .xml
[10:30] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : what should I do next ?
[10:30] <zer_x252> minimec: I also found this in syslog: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m40067033
[10:30] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: which .xml ?   .gconf should be a folder
[10:31] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: mine has the folders apps, desktop, and system
[10:31] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : %gconf.xml
[10:31] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: type cd .gconf
[10:31] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I'm not sure where you are ... give me the output of 'pwd'
[10:31] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : cd gconf.xml
[10:32] <X-Sleepy-X> not .xml
[10:32] <minimec> zer_x252: in a console 'sudo adduser zer_x252-new', then login as zer_x252-new, then copy your important data to that new user directory. Your files will then still have the old user as owner of the file, wich means that you cannot modify them. That's why you should do 'chown' afterwards.
[10:33] <Guest23799> minimec : did u get my log
[10:33] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : bash: cd: %gconf.xml: Not a directory
[10:33] <zer_x252> minimec: ah, i see, I'm looking into GDM not starting properly now
[10:33] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yeah, you can't really cd into a non-directory
[10:34] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : so what should I do ?
[10:34] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: try cd $HOME/.gconf
[10:34] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: where are you? what does 'pwd' say
[10:34]  * grawity sighs
[10:34] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that won't work ... he's in a live session trying to repair his gnome-panel configuration files
[10:34] <X-Sleepy-X> oh sry
[10:34] <two> WIT GRAVY
[10:35] <minimec> Guest23799: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161021
[10:35] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: he's mounted his harddrive and is supposedly somewhere close to /media/the_disk/home/his_name/.gconf
[10:35] <X-Sleepy-X> i see
[10:35] <GUmby> hi all, just booted to the livecd and I keep getting ubiquity errors right after the partition gets formatted
[10:35] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am in on .gconfig
[10:35] <GUmby> anyone know what I might do to fix this?
[10:36] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : but I can't access the xml
[10:36] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: just to get us on the same page, cd to your user folder on the mounted drive
[10:36] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : there are 2 files %gconf.xml  and gnome
[10:37] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: weird but ok ... is there 'session' under gnome?
[10:37] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : there are accessibility  background  font_rendering  interface	session applications   file_views  %gconf.xml	   peripherals
[10:38] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: very good! go into session
[10:38] <super-mario> ciao
[10:38] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I am in there are 2 files (%gconf.xml  required_components)
[10:39] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: try 'less %gconf.xml' ... does it have anything in it?
[10:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : type "less %gconf.xml" but it came out                   \%gconf.xml (END)
[10:41] <jurisz> how to migrate cron jobs from one ubuntu instance to another?
[10:41] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: let me check on something .. brb
[10:41] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: it might be easier to guide him without the live session?
[10:41] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: I think he can't log into his regular install   :-)
[10:41] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: not even with ctrl+alt+f1?
[10:42] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: to get the cli
[10:42] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: I think it's graphical that gives the problem. I'm trying to disable gnome-panel from loading ... either that or deleting gnome-panel's configuration files ... but the gconf files don't seem to have content, and I'm not sure what gconf-editor is using as its backend
[10:43] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that'd probably work. then he could use gconf-tool2 to alter the key ...  it's that or trying to chroot from the live session
[10:43] <raj> xorg.conf file lost
[10:43] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: :)
[10:43] <raj> how to regain
[10:44] <digitalchemist> jurisz: crontab -l > ~/cron.old ... then cat ~/cron.old | crontab -
[10:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> sudo apt-get you're screwed
[10:44] <jurisz> tnx
[10:44] <digitalchemist> ShazbotMcNasty: lol
[10:44] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I am really out of idea
[10:44] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I just wanted to restore back my config panel to default .
[10:45] <zer_x252> minimec: strangest thing I've ever seen, I created a new user, went to login to gnome, still won't let me login on regular gnome, but will let me login on gnome failsafe
[10:45] <X-Sleepy-X> raj: it should generate a new one if you log out and back in again
[10:45] <tolpico>  I have installed some emerald themes, but when I apply them in emerald manger, they don't apply. I have even restarted the desktop environment and restarted. Is there anything else I am supposed to do to apply them?
[10:45] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: you'll need to restart to your normal install to try this, so make sure to either write it down or remember it ... I'll make a command that should let you log back in
[10:45] <zer_x252> tolpico try pressing Alt+F2 and typing emerald --replace
[10:46] <minimec> zer_x252: So it is not a gnome-session problem...
[10:46] <zer_x252> minimec: correct, it has to be something else
[10:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : so I need to restart back to the system installed ? karmic ?
[10:46] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yes, but not yet
[10:46] <zer_x252> minimec: I assumed it was a session issue since it only occured when attempting to login with one session, but that must not be the case
[10:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ?
[10:47] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: he will give you a command for you to write down, wait
[10:47] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I'm writing the command that you'll be using ... give me a couple of seconds
[10:47] <minimec> zer_x252: So what could it be.... hmmmm
[10:47] <tolpico> zer_x252, no no effect, still the same
[10:47] <chilli0> Hi how can I get ubuntu to work with xbox 360 ?
[10:47] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: meanwhile, get hold on a pen and some paper
[10:47] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ok thanks :-)
[10:47] <chilli0> Play music , pics ,movies
[10:47] <zer_x252> minimec: I looked at it being gdm, I tried reinstalling gdm and even completely removing gdm and reinstalling it
[10:48] <raj> need resolution
[10:48] <raj> higher resolution
[10:49] <raj> need help
[10:49] <zer_x252> tolpico, try sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, and then run fusion-icon from applications->System, it will add an icon to your gnome-panel, right-click on it and click Reload Window Manager
[10:49] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: I enable log on xchat now ,
[10:49] <minimec> zer_x252: ok. change <ctrl><alt>F1, login then 'sudo killall gdm', then startx
[10:50] <raj> my xorg.conf is un traceable
[10:50] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: that log will get erased once you reboot the computer
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: alright, you'll need to reboot into your karmic install, but don't do the graphical login. Instead, press Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... login to this console and type the command that I'll send in my next message
[10:50] <zer_x252> minimec: should I log out of this session first or no?
[10:50] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: I 'll copy it into a the desktop of my installed system
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: gconftool-2 --set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list -t list --list-type string $(gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/session/required_components_list | sed 's/,panel//')
[10:50] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: yes, do that
[10:50] <minimec> zer_x252: You can logout the session.
[10:51] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : where should I do thaty?
[10:51] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : here on live cd or login to the system ?
[10:51] <chilli0> Hi how can I get ubuntu to work with xbox 360 ?
[10:51] <chilli0> Play music , pics ,movies
[10:51] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: login to karmic
[10:51] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: with ctrl-alt-f1
[10:52] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: and then paste it in the cli
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: hopefully I am able to boot in
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[10:52] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: this command will remove gnome-panel from the required startup apps. after that, you should be able to login and use gconf-tool to reset the configuration for gnome-panel ...
[10:52] <X-Sleepy-X> ubuntuuser: when u see the login screen press ctrl-alt-F1
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[10:52] <digitalchemist> chilli0: I think mediatomb will do what you're wanting ... a non-free trial software called twonky also can
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : X-Sleepy-X  : log out now
[10:52] <ubuntuuser> brb
[10:53] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: good luck   :-)
[10:53] <zer_x252> minimec: no change still...
[10:53] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : ok ;-)
[10:54] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: thanks for fielding those other questions   :-)
[10:54] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: :)
[10:55] <linuxius> does anyone know a program I can use to display pictures and videos in full screen mode (I want to present pictures and movies from my holidays to relatives...)
[10:55] <linuxius> ?
[10:55] <linuxius> fspot can't handle videos....
[10:55] <digitalchemist> linuxius: all of the players have fullscreen options, I think
[10:55] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: moovida
[10:56] <linuxius> yes, but I always have to switch windows from pictures to movies....
[10:56] <digitalchemist> linuxius: gotcha
[10:56] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: moovida is a media center
[10:56] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: sudo apt-get install moovida
[10:57] <lesshaste> hello all
[10:57] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: that looks really cool. never heard of it before  :-D
[10:57] <linuxius> thanks!!!
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: it's nice, formerly called elisa
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: or you could go for XBMC
[10:57] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: but then you'd have to add their repository
[10:58] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: ah, that project looked like it had some promise. and this appears to be Python stuff, so that add some cool points
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> linuxius: XBMC = Xbox Media Center
[10:58] <minimec> zer_x252: Any news? I have some problems with the irc server today... ;)
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: Yeah, they recently release v.1.0
[10:58] <zer_x252> minimec: nothing changed after killing gdm
[10:58] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: movvida i mean.
[10:59] <X-Sleepy-X> moovida*
[10:59] <minimec> zer_x252: so if you do startx in the terminal... what happens?
[10:59] <zer_x252> minimec: x fails to start due to there being an x session already open, I forget how to kill an x session though /embarassed
[11:01] <zer_x252> minimec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765814&page=2 this seems to be a very similar issue, if i recall, failsafe uses failsafe drivers as well, so I will try and reinstall my proprietary nvidia drivers (currently I am using the cuda-enabled ones, so I will probably reinstall those)
[11:01] <minimec> zer_x252: hmm... ok. try that.
[11:02] <ranjan> how to chake version of any software on ubuntu 9.10 from terminal please help
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> well it depends on what you're trying to get the version of
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> What app do you want the version of
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> ?
[11:03] <X-Sleepy-X> any
[11:03] <ShazbotMcNasty> D:
[11:03] <X-Sleepy-X> ;)
[11:04] <X-Sleepy-X> sudo apt-get install any
[11:04] <digitalchemist> X-Sleepy-X: ShazbotMcNasty: I'm not an apt expert, but there's got to be a command to check the version of installed packages ... this seems to be what (s)he wants
[11:04] <X-Sleepy-X> digitalchemist: there is, but i cant seem to remember at the moment
[11:05] <subito> -v gives the version of apt :(
[11:05] <Gumby> wow, the alpha release of karmic gave me less install problems than the final has/is
[11:06] <ShazbotMcNasty> well sudo apt-cache search all would probably do it
[11:07] <X-Sleepy-X> ranjan: sudo apt-cache showpkg PACKAGENAMEHERE
[11:07] <digitalchemist> ShazbotMcNasty: X-Sleepy-X: ranjan:  dpkg -s <packagename>
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> look sit's my pretty desktop
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> :http://omploader.org/vMzJ0bA
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> :|
[11:08] <ranjan> X-Sleepy-X :: digitalchemist ::  thanks i got the solution
[11:08] <ShazbotMcNasty> http://omploader.org/vMzJ0bA **
[11:09] <bazhang> ShazbotMcNasty, dont paste that here
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> drats
[11:09] <X-Sleepy-X> ranjan: :)
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm just bored...
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> I guess I'll go to bed
[11:09] <ShazbotMcNasty> peace
[11:10] <digitalchemist> that's cool looking though
[11:10] <ShazbotMcNasty> thanks
[11:11] <lonejack> hi, problem using pppoeconfig. At the end of procedure I can go on the net but when the system restart I must repeat the pppoeconfig if I want to go on the net.. Any advices?
[11:11] <elzoog> Hey everybody I have a question
[11:12] <digitalchemist> elzoog: go for it
[11:12] <dnivra> lonejack: did you mean pppoeconf?
[11:12] <lonejack> dnivra, yes, sorry
[11:13] <elzoog> First, can you guys see this?   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnziG8Lfp88
[11:13] <dnivra> lonejack: no you don't have to repeat pppoeconf everytime to connect. just use "sudo pon dls-provider".
[11:13] <digitalchemist> elzoog: heh, I get that at work ... it has something to do with the avahi service
[11:13] <dnivra> lonejack: or whatever is the name of the file that's there in /etc/ppp/peers
[11:14] <elzoog> It's not just Avahi, it's also that annoying thing above it that I want to get rid of
[11:14] <zer_x252> minimec: I figured out what I did wrong on the step you told me a few tries ago, its sudo killall gdm-binary not sudo killall gdm, after logging in as a user on another terminal and killing gdm, start x brings up gnome perfectly
[11:14] <elzoog> If it weren't for those annoying things, I would go ahead and install Ubuntu on the netbook.   It is a present for my 8 year old daughter
[11:14] <digitalchemist> elzoog: oh, crazy ... the brightness change notifier keeps doing that?
[11:15] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's a live session?
[11:15] <zer_x252> minimec: so it looks like it was a gdm issue afterall?
[11:15] <elzoog> Digital:  Yep, it does it on the live USB, and it also does it if I install Ubuntu on the hard drive (I know, I tried it, then uninstalled Ubuntu because of that reason)
[11:16] <elzoog> Digital:  Is that what that is, the brightness change notifier?
[11:16] <digitalchemist> elzoog: so much for that. was wondering if it'd be isolated to the live session ... have you tried playing with the brightness keys on the laptop at all ... maybe something is stuck?
[11:16] <lonejack> dnivra, at certain moment when I launch pppoecconf, it ask me if I want to start the connection at startup. This doesn't work
[11:16] <X-Sleepy-X> just uninstall the notifying package
[11:16] <digitalchemist> elzoog: that's what it looks like to me
[11:17] <digitalchemist> elzoog: yeah, you could sudo apt-get remove libnotify
[11:17] <elzoog> Digital:  Ok, let me try that.  What happens is that comes up for a few minutes after I boot.  Then it goes away
[11:17] <dnivra> lonejack: that's not the connection; that's the pppd daemon i think. the connection is never started on startup I assure you.
[11:17] <zer_x252> elzoog: you could sudo cat the keyboard device to see if a key is stuck
[11:17] <freeride> please advice kde3 repository. I use Karmic
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> freeride:  what? Kde is in the normal repos.
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <lonejack> Probably that's was my mistake. So what I have to do is: pppoeconf, then at startup launch "sudo pon dls-provider"
[11:20] <dnivra> lonejack: dsl-provider sorry "sudo pon dsl-provider". yeah just do this command to start. and "sudo poff -a" to stop the connection
[11:20] <elzoog> What does sudo apt-get remove libnotify  do?
[11:20] <vfen> merry xmas
[11:21] <dnivra> lonejack: note that "dsl-provider" is the name of a file in /etc/ppp/peers; just verify it is the file. you can open the file and see if your DSL username and password is there in the file.
[11:21] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it'll remove the notification package ... the program that's showing any of those popups
[11:21] <zer_x252> elzoog: removes the ubuntu libnotify utility, it creates the notification popups in the upper right-hand corner
[11:21] <lonejack> dnivra, thank you a lot
[11:21] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's kind of a shotgun approach, but it'd get rid of the popups   :-D
[11:21] <Gumby> does anyone know if it is possible to use a livecd.iso, mount it, and run the installer from it?
[11:21] <dnivra> lonejack: sure thing. no problem. glad I could help out:).
[11:21] <elzoog> Also, is it possible to run the updater, put it on the USB, then install linux with everything updated already?
[11:21] <zer_x252> Gumby: probably, there is an install from windows option, which is essentially just that
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:   if you wish to install ubuntu from within another OS. you can also use the 'debootstrap' method.
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> !install
[11:23] <digitalchemist> elzoog: there's probably a way ... I remember hearing about a project which lets you make your own live cds off of a customized install
[11:23] <zer_x252> Anybody else have insight on the ongoing issue of not being able to login to my regular gnome-session, I can login to failsafe fine, and my regular session logs in if I kill gdm (pointing the finger at GDM)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252: clarify what happens when you do try to login?
[11:23] <Gumby> Dr_Willis, my problem is this..  the cd I burned will boot, but the installer keeps failing telling me that it cant read from the disk.  I only has the one blank CD.  So I was thinking of trying to mount the iso which is still on the hard disk on a partition I wont be erasing and then run the installer from inside a chroot (if that makes any sense)
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  you could remove/move all the gnome setting files and see if that clears it up
[11:24] <digitalchemist> elzoog: maybe this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[11:24] <mat619> Hey folks! I need an application to put exif tags on photos and search/browse them by those tags... F-Spot could do this afaik but I have the problem described in Bug 286544 and can therefore not use it. Any alternatives that can do this job?
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:  I always just use unetbootin, or the usb-creator tool to make bootabel flash drives.  Ive never used debootstrap or any other fancier ways to install.
[11:24] <elzoog> Also, should I bother to make the netbook dual boot?   I definitely want winbugs XP because any software my 8 year old daughter is likely to have will be winbugs software.  But I don't know how a typical 8 year old child would react to linux
[11:25] <Gumby> Dr_Willis, yeah, I dont have my usb stick with me either. hehe
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  thers googles picassa2 or watever its called.. (i dont do muich of that stuff)
[11:25] <digitalchemist> elzoog: no harm in it
[11:25] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: if GDM is running and I attempt to login to my normal gnome session, I get the Nvidia splash screen for about a half second and then it brings me back to gdm; so far I have done ~/.gnome2, ~/.gnome2-private, ~/.gconf, ~/.gconfd, reinstalled graphics drivers, creating a new user account
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Gumby:  Id suggest just waiting till you get a flash drive.  Unetbootin i Hear can also do a 'frugal' type install to a partion of a hard disk. but thats not a normal install. thats more of a live-cd type install.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  so your X session is basically crashing.
[11:26] <mat619> Dr_Willis: ok i should've added "except picasa" because it's a) overblown with features for what i want to do and b) a piece of google software which I'm skeptical about
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  a NEWly made user account also has the same issue?
[11:26] <zer_x252> Dr_willis: basically, however I get no indication of such in logs
[11:26] <elzoog> Digital:  Which is better for a netbook, Ubuntu netbook remix, or Ubuntu desktop?
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> mat619:  good luck then.
[11:26] <digitalchemist> elzoog: it's pretty easy to do ... from your live environment, use gparted to resize the Windows partition. Then you can install Ubuntu on the freed remaining space. It'll use grub as the bootloader, so you'll be able to easily choose between Windows and Ubuntu ... but make sure to make a copy of your MBR in case you want to remove Ubuntu/Grub and go back to pure windows
[11:26] <BinaryMan> Dr_Willis: Try using failsafe gnome?
[11:26] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: yes, and NEWLY created user suffers from the same issue
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  either one will work.  I tend to install the UNR then install ubuntu-desktop
[11:27] <elzoog> Digital:  I know how to do it.  I've probably done it more than a thousand times.
[11:27] <digitalchemist> elzoog: give netbook remix a try. they've come a long way, and it's quite nice now. Worst case scenario, you can change a setting in UNR and get the normal desktop
[11:27] <digitalchemist> elzoog: well, you never know   :-)
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> BinaryMan:  that points to some driver issue.  or compiz issue. as a test try installing some other window maanger like 'flwm' or 'icewm' see if the users can loging to those correctly. The fact that failsafe works.. is.. interesting and points to it might being a compiz or fancy gnome feature issue
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  the netbook remix also may be tweaked a little more for the devices.
[11:29] <elzoog> Since the drive is 160 GB, I guess I will make 40 GB space for Ubuntu.  Since she would probably use Windows most of the time whereas she might only try Ubuntu
[11:29] <zer_x252> Dr_Willies: I have compiz installed, but its on a delayed startup script I wrote so I could easily weed it out, I'll try another WM, but if I can login to those what should my next step be?
[11:29] <BinaryMan> Dr_Willis: Have you only looked at the logs? Does 'dmesg' spit back anything interesting?
[11:29] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis*
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> BinaryMan:  its zer_x252  having the issues. :)
[11:29] <zer_x252> BinaryMan: I think you have me and Dr_Willies confused, I had the login issues :P
[11:29] <BinaryMan> whoops
[11:29] <zer_x252> =D
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  i would try disabling compiz totally.
[11:30] <BinaryMan> chat scrolled while I was reading and thought the doctor was having the problems.
[11:30] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: completely remove? or just disabling it?
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  also  theres some login mode that goes to just a xterminal, with no wm/desktop  and try 'gnome-session' from there. looking for error messages in the terminal window
[11:30] <BinaryMan> disable it
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  i always just disable it.
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> !info fusion-icon
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> I like fusion-icon for that job.
[11:30] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I already have it disabled and fusion-icon =D
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  try gnome-session, see if it gives any clues
[11:31] <elzoog> Besides, my copy of Windows is slightly bootlegged.   I downloaded the ISO off of bittorrent, then used the XP key that I bought online.   I think though, that since I paid for it, I should be allowed to install it on any computer I want.  But Windows seems to want me to buy a key every time I put it on a different computer
[11:31] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I even have it disabled on boot, and a script to start it about 15 seconds after boot and spit any errors at me :D
[11:31] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: okay, I'll give it a shot
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  thats how the EULA from MS works... :)
[11:32] <BinaryMan> I shall refrain from my own opinions on Microsoft's EULA and just exactly where they can stick it.
[11:32] <elzoog> Yeah, it's stupid.   I did a hack to make sure that the Windows XP I put on the netbook won't check to be authentic.
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Netbooks are basically the only reason that XP is even still around right now. MS brought Xp back from the brink of death to counter the Linux On Netbooks assault. :)
[11:33] <elzoog> So what would happen if my hard drive crashes and I install a different hard drive?    Would MS want me to buy a key again?
[11:33] <digitalchemist> elzoog: they'd want you to buy new keys whatever the occasion   :-)
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> Saw a larger netbook on sale that had Win7 on it. the store' computer dude' said it wasent a 'netbook' because it has a larger screen...  *told him that was MS marketing/licening propaganda* and he looked at me funny.
[11:34] <elzoog> Digital:  So that means if I get up out of my chair to take a piss, and come back to the computer 5 minutes later, they would want me to buy another key?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  i dont think the XP licening stuff gets activated with just a HD change.
[11:34] <digitalchemist> elzoog: yes. it's a different point in space-time, so you should get authorization for each new quantum
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  #windows would be able to tell you when it gets triggered. I was thinking it was like 3 major hardwaare change's
[11:35] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I was unable to login to xterm to see if gnome-session worked, it did the exact same thing as logging into non failsafe gnome does
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  now thats very weird.
[11:36] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: could it be gdm itself?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:   You could go old skool..   disable gdm. . make a .xinitrc file with the line. 'exec xterm'  and use 'startx'  then test from there.
[11:36] <digitalchemist> elzoog: I recently installed Windows 7 on a computer then decided to not use it. Instead, I wanted it on another computer. Installed it on the new one but it refused to activate. Called them up and they reactivated, no questions asked. The process kinda sucks, but whatever
[11:36] <r3d2_> Note to self: Get a doctorate and don't add Dr. to the prefix of my tag.
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  it seems odd that gdm works.. but gnome dosent..     You tried flwm yet or icewm?
[11:36] <elzoog> Dr_Willis:  The point is, if the hard drive crashes then all of that data is lost (except for the key, which I stored somewhere).   So that would mean if I install a hard drive, and use the old key and then go online to try to authenticate it, it has already been authenticated plus the hardware changed.
[11:36] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: no, I'll whip one of those out real quick
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  deoending on the tile btween activations it can get tagged as invalid.
[11:37] <digitalchemist> elzoog: the auto/online activation will probably fail ... but they'll probably honor it on the phone
[11:37] <chadi> after I updated my ubuntu, when I boot my computer, grub shows: GRUB _ < with this underscore turning on and off and it hangs. What's wrong? I can't do anything now :/
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  yea  - i like flwm for light wm's :)
[11:37] <BinaryMan> elzoog: At that point, you have to call Microsoft. I've had to do it before.
[11:37] <FANDER> guys, there's something that annoys me too much. I want to be able to "send" photos from my mobile to ubuntu using bluetooth, but I want the sending procedure to happen from the mobile, i.e to select the computer from the mobile and send the file. Did you understand what I mean?
[11:37] <BinaryMan> and they do honor it, after about 10 minutes worth of questions.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:   You should call MS and wish them happy new year anyway...
[11:38] <ubuntuuser> X-Sleepy-X : hi , it doesn't work
[11:38] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: I've only done it once, and the only question I got asked was the 3,000 digit activation number
[11:38] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it does'nt work
[11:38] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: what happens?
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> I imagine very soon XP will be totally dead.. and it wont latter elzoog
[11:39] <digitalchemist> FANDER: okay ... makes sense, what's the problem?
[11:39] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it just said directory something , i tried numerous times it still doesn't work
[11:39] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i dont know how to explain
[11:39] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: the command worked but you still can't log on?
[11:40] <elzoog> Dr_Willis:  Problem is, what will replace XP?     I haven't heard many good things about Windows 7
[11:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am able to login , pressting F1 but it said cannot find
[11:40] <digitalchemist> elzoog: Windows 7 is very good, surprisingly enough
[11:40] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : I let you see my problem.
[11:40] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: k
[11:40] <BinaryMan> digitalchemist: I was calling in regards to XP Corporate which uses VLKs, which are pirated often.
[11:41] <FANDER> digitalchemist: the problem is that for example I want to send the contacts to my PC and that can happens only by sending it from Mobile to PC. I can't access the contacts saved in the mobile from the file browser. THis is one problem
[11:41] <FANDER> so is there a solution?
[11:41] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : my top and bottom panel all missing , I can't right click at all
[11:41] <chadi> after I updated my ubuntu, when I boot my computer, grub shows: GRUB _ < with this underscore turning on and off and it hangs. What's wrong? I can't do anything now :/ Please help me guys, I am unable to access any OS!
[11:41] <elzoog> Digital:  Well, Windows XP seems stable enough, which is proof of the supernatural since it would require a supernatural force to make Windows stable.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  win7 is replaceing xp. Thats MS's decision basically
[11:41] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: ahh, too bad I lost my VLK ... that was a nice time
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> elzoog:  wont matter how stable xp used to be. I am finding more and more new hardware that has no xp drivers.
[11:41] <BinaryMan> It was a legit one that kept flagging back as invalid.
[11:41] <digitalchemist> chadi: it hangs ... ?
[11:41] <chadi> yeah
[11:42] <digitalchemist> FANDER: it's possible. I've done it before.
[11:42] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : it's like can't access terminal , synaptic all function cannot be access via panel . I can't do anything except F1 terminal and browse through files
[11:42] <chadi> digitalchemist it stops responding
[11:42] <digitalchemist> elzoog: I'll have to start going to church then!
[11:42] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I flwm works
[11:42] <FANDER> digitalchemist: Ok how?
[11:42] <puffs> chadi, there was nothing that could help me
[11:42] <elzoog> Of course if I update to Windows 7, that would mean buying another key
[11:42] <puffs> had to format koala
[11:42] <chadi> digitalchemist: like, the "underscore" keeps flashing but it just stops
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : did you recieve my file picture ?
[11:43] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: should I go ahead and try gnome-session from xinit?
[11:43] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: no, I didn't see anything come across
[11:43] <chadi> puffs how can I explain more? it's not a system crash, it's a grub failure apparently
[11:43] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: link?
[11:43] <FANDER> chadi: كيفك ابو الشدود
[11:43] <elzoog> I'm surprised more people haven't jumped ship and switched to Ubuntu.
[11:43] <FANDER> sorry
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  from .xinitrc   yea. that would be a good test. and you will get messages in the console.
[11:43] <puffs> chadi, i know, i had the same problem :)
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> --- Offering Screenshot.png to digitalchemist
[11:43] <digitalchemist> FANDER: click the bluetooth indicator on the panl
[11:43] <ubuntuuser> why it doesn't ?
[11:44] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: okay, I will be back in a sec
[11:44] <digitalchemist> chadi: no clue, you don't even get a grub command prompt?
[11:44] <chadi> digitalchemist nope :/
[11:44] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: not sure ... I'm using empathy
[11:44] <BinaryMan> chadi: Do you still have the LiveCD?
[11:44] <chadi> BinaryMan yeah, it's thre right now and I am trying to figure it out
[11:44] <digitalchemist> chadi: I've never encountered this ... I don't think I can be any help
[11:45] <FANDER> digitalchemist: OK?
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> I think we need to get zer. to install a console irc client...
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:45] <digitalchemist> FANDER: let me get my adapter so I can see what to do
[11:45] <puffs> chadi, you upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, right?
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: it's not exactly the problem your having, but it should fix it.
[11:45] <chadi> digitalchemist I am going to grub install again: grub-install /dev/sda5
[11:45] <BinaryMan> chadi: and it'll explain how in much more clarity than I can provide here.
[11:45] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I'm back, in the gnome-session i start in xterm
[11:46] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: seems this is gdm then?
[11:46] <digitalchemist> chadi: that's a good first step   :-)
[11:46] <chadi> I should have said that grub is not my MBR
[11:46] <digitalchemist> chadi: gotcha, a reinstall should fix it then
[11:46] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7347/screenshotvd.png please help
[11:46] <dxy> i just installed 9.10 it doesnt ask for the root password? what is default?
[11:47] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : i am getting sleepy now , going soon , I really out of idea
[11:47] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: sudo killall gnome-panel
[11:47] <digitalchemist> FANDER: click the indicator, the go to setup new device ... you'll need you phone in discoverable mode ... this should let you pair the device. Once that's done, your transfer should work
[11:47] <lstarnes> dxy: there is no default root password.  root is also locked by default
[11:47] <chadi> great, it worked! :D
[11:47] <OpenSorce> dxy, no... use sudo
[11:47] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : I can't even access terminal at gui
[11:48] <Joe__> hmm... it looks like my firefox profile got corrupted, is there anyway I can figure out exactly what it is so I can try and save as much as possible?
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : the only way I can access is through ctrl+alt+f1
[11:48] <digitalchemist> ubuntuuser: I've seen that happen before ... but mine was fixed by restarting
[11:48] <zer_x252> ubuntuuser: does Alt+F2 bring up a prompt?
[11:48] <BinaryMan> chadi: good to hear.
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : never tried that
[11:48] <BlouBlou> dxy: root password is the same that your administrator account
[11:48] <digitalchemist> Does anyone know the dpkg command to reconfigure a package? that might help ubuntuuser
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  yea. Not sure what the deal would be.. one other way to test.. stop the gdm service.. as root in a console run just 'gdm'  see if any error messages show up. :) and also.. Install an console based irc client like weechat or irssi so you dont have to keep  loging in/out of here. :)
[11:48] <chadi> puffs nope, clean install of 9.10, just did an update. digitalchemist and BinaryMan: thank you both :)
[11:48] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : will restart and tried it
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> digitalchemist : will restart and try it alt+f2
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> zer_x252 : sorry I am new
[11:49] <dxy> OpenSorce thanks man i found it
[11:49] <ubuntuuser> brb
[11:49] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: should it be gdm or gdm-binary?
[11:49] <FANDER> digitalchemist: no no this is not my problem. I know how to make pairing. The problem is that my phone can't see my PC when I want to send files to PC. But when I click browse file on the device, it works!!!
[11:49] <FANDER> digitalchemist: my PC is discoverable
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> zer_x252:  just gdm i think.. Not really suire with 9.10
[11:50] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: seems they are interchangable, at least from the output I get when trying to start it with x in use
[11:50] <digitalchemist> FANDER: does your phone need to do a similar process of pairing?
[11:50] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: will try that and be back in a sec
[11:50] <BinaryMan> chadi: Imagine that happening on a lab with 25 workstations. You'd be amazed at the amount of GRUB problems that end up happening and I have to fix.
[11:50] <digitalchemist> FANDER: when I was using my Palm, I think I had to make sure the computer was an authorized device before I could send to it
[11:51] <FANDER> digitalchemist: mmm...maybe this is my problem, I'll try that
[11:51] <digitalchemist> FANDER: yeah, see if your phone has some sort of bluetooth configuration steps for devices ... some kind of pairing/authorization list
[11:52] <chadi> BinaryMan: wow. btw, maybe I had to let grub take the MBR. But I chose windows boot manager to load grub. WE'll see later
[11:53] <jubilem> hello folks - anybody using 9.10 on ThinkPad X40?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> Grub Fu Skills are strong with this one!
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[11:54] <digitalchemist> jubilem: no, what's the problem?
[11:55] <jubilem> couple of.. first the screen does not lid after sleep, and secondly harddrive seems to be parking continuosly
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> jubilem:  check the ubuntu forums yet? i was thinking the Thinkpad had its own 'section' at one time.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> Been thinking about getting a thinkpad for my next laptop...
[11:56] <jubilem> checked those month ago.. there were some hack arounds which did not help me
[11:56] <jubilem> I'll check again, anyway
[11:57] <BinaryMan> I'm off to bed again. Night all.
[11:57] <digitalchemist> BinaryMan: good night, merry christmas
[11:57] <BinaryMan> Or early morning. It's already 7am.
[11:57] <BinaryMan> digitalchemist: thanks, you too.
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> jubilem:  the hd parking was an issue a few released ago  I recall some hdparm commands 'fixed' it for my old laptop.
[11:59] <voss> hello
[12:00] <voss> is there anyone who may want help me?
[12:00] <dnivra> hello voss; merry christmas:).
[12:00] <dnivra> !ask | voss
[12:00] <digitalchemist> voss: depends what you have
[12:00] <voss> thanks.. :) same to you
[12:00] <voss> well...
[12:00] <voss> downloaded and installed savage2
[12:00] <voss> ubntu NR 9.10
[12:00] <dnivra> (oh yeah that goes for whoever wasn't there when I wished 17 hours ago:))
[12:01] <jubilem> Dr_Willis: right. just did a update which did not help, assumed those were fixed but apperantly not.. more googling to be done...
[12:01] <voss> and when i ./savage2.bin to play
[12:01] <digitalchemist> dnivra: thanks then, you too   :-)
[12:01] <Jork> Hello guys
[12:01] <voss> there is: bash: ./savage2.bin: Permission denied
[12:01] <voss> chmod +x savage2.bin doesnt help
[12:01] <dnivra> voss: try "sudo ./savage2.bin"
[12:02] <voss> doesnt help
[12:02] <Jork> Are they needed 32libs for installing wine in x64 ubuntu?
[12:02] <dnivra> voss: just a guess that's all:).
[12:02] <digitalchemist> voss: chown?
[12:02] <minimec> voss: I guess you have to make the savage2 file exetutable. go into the preferences of the file in the filemanager
[12:03] <voss> chown too
[12:03] <jasman> !port
[12:03] <voss> sorry i have to go now... i'll be later
[12:03] <voss> :) cya
[12:04] <dnivra> hey digitalchemist any guesses on what could be the reason voss' problem if sudo or chown didn't work?
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: This issue is driving me crazy! I can see my PC in my phone's bluetooth list, but when I try to send something, i don't see it!
[12:04] <digitalchemist> dnivra: no, that's why I'm glad he left    :-D
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: i even tried it with Nokia devices
[12:04] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I have SE K750i
[12:04] <tstebut> hello
[12:04] <dnivra> digitalchemist: same here :-D
[12:05] <dnivra> !hello | tstebut
[12:05] <tstebut> I'm using a samba server with ldap backend as domain server
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> FANDER:  ive never managed to 'send' to the phone either.. I can send from the phone to the pc..  but ive never managed to browse the phone, or send toit. i also recall having to use th Phone to initiate the pairing, Not the PC.
[12:05] <tstebut> Hi dnivra
[12:05] <tstebut> Merry Xmas
[12:05] <tstebut> If you do it or not ;)
[12:05] <dnivra> tstebut: actually that was a general thing from all here:). same to you.
[12:06] <tstebut> Yesterday night did I get huge help configure samba
[12:06] <tstebut> :)
[12:06] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: I tried the gdm thing
[12:06] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m6d9d6e12
[12:06] <jasman> how do I close a port? I see there are open ports on my compute
[12:07] <digitalchemist> Dr_Willis: it sounds like he's able to see the PC from the phone but unable to see the PC when trying to send a file from the phone
[12:07] <tstebut> Okay, now I'd like to find a way to verify may samba server properly acts as Wins server
[12:07] <iceroot> jasman: they are open because an application is needing them. what port exactly?
[12:07] <jasman> 9003
[12:07] <vadi01> whats the svn prog for ubuntu called?
[12:07] <FANDER> digitalchemist: exactly
[12:07] <zer_x252> vadi01: subversion
[12:08] <iceroot> vadi01: subversion
[12:09] <minimec> FANDER: I can confirm your problem using a SE w300i.
[12:09] <duffydack> anyone running a win7 vm in virtualbox with 3d enabled, and running ok?
[12:09] <iceroot> duffydack: ##windows
[12:09] <iceroot> jasman: strange, that is not an assigned port
[12:09] <FANDER> minimec: good :D
[12:10] <digitalchemist> FANDER: minimec: maybe the computer isn't exposing the right profiles, so the device doesn't think its capable of receiving files?
[12:10] <duffydack> a simple yes/no isnt too hard...
[12:10] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I'm trying to send pictures also!
[12:11] <iceroot> duffydack: this is ubuntu support, not windows support
[12:11] <FANDER> digitalchemist: profiles? what profiles?
[12:11] <digitalchemist> duffydack: null. I'm not running any of that, so no troubles to report.
[12:11] <dnm> merry xams every one
[12:11] <duffydack> digitalchemist, ok thanks anyway.. nevermind i`ll try it anyway..
[12:12] <dnm> can any one help me with setting up my wireless on ubuntu
[12:12] <digitalchemist> FANDER: bluetooth profiles ... I don't know much about them, but they advertise types of functionality ... whether something is an audio device, a hands-free headset, or whatever else they can be
[12:12] <digitalchemist> dnm: there's probably someone that can ...   :-)
[12:12] <FANDER> digitalchemist: OK so?
[12:12] <minimec> FANDER: digitalchemist: The karmic bluetooth implementation is exellent, compared to previous ones. Everything is working out of the box, besides that 'send file' phone-->computer.
[12:13] <dnm> digitalchemist: i have a bsnl broadband connection
[12:13] <dnm> digitalchemist: n am struggling to get it done
[12:13] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[12:13] <digitalchemist> dnm: no idea, so that someone might not be me ... but what's the problem?
[12:13] <FANDER> minimec: The problem happened with me since ubuntu 8.10
[12:14] <FANDER> minimec: It was working with Hardy
[12:14] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I'll see if my Palm can still do it
[12:14] <dnm> digitalchemist: he he he k ... well it reads the connection but i m not sure how to configure it
[12:14] <dto> i used Palimpsest to format a hard drive, and it will mount it, but how do i set it up to automount every boot?
[12:14] <adam587> hi
[12:14] <FANDER> digitalchemist: don't you have a mobile phone?
[12:14] <adam587> i nded help pls
[12:15] <digitalchemist> dto: edit /etc/fstab and add an entry for the drive ... specify 'auto' in the options column
[12:15] <FANDER> adam587: what's the problem?
[12:15] <dto> digitalchemist: ah cool :)
[12:15] <dnivra> dnm: could you elaborate a bit?
[12:16] <digitalchemist> FANDER: yeah, but it's an iPhone ... it's jailbroken with the user BTstack, but I don't have anything that would let me make use of that functionality, I don't think.
[12:16] <adam587> silly think i have live cd now tring to instal ubuntu 9.1 ....i have partition win C and win D want to change win C to linux dont know how to do that with live cd instaler
[12:16] <iceroot> adam587: ubuntu is giving you that option in the installer menu
[12:17] <dnivra> adam587: it's 9.10 not 9.1:).
[12:17] <digitalchemist> adam587: that'll probably be /dev/sda1
[12:17] <FANDER> adam587: what win C and win D??!!! plz write good English
[12:17] <clemens_> hallo
[12:17] <Daughain> Has anyone run across install errors when using Ubuntu Software Center in Karmic?
[12:17] <iceroot> FANDER: plz is also no good english
[12:17] <adam587> yeap but ubuntu 9.10 want to clean my whole disc and i want to change only win C into linux its 15 gb size
[12:17] <iceroot> Daughain: no
[12:18] <FANDER> iceroot: :-[
[12:18] <digitalchemist> iceroot: "no good english" is also not good English
[12:18] <dnm> dnivra: well it is reading the wireless network but i cant get connected to it
[12:18] <Daughain> iceroot; Ok, so this is unique to me, great.
[12:18] <FANDER> digitalchemist: heheheh thanks man
[12:18] <clemens_> wie kann ich einen chat-server installieren
[12:18] <digitalchemist> FANDER:   O:-)
[12:18] <dnivra> dnm: did you try to connect using network manager?
[12:18] <adam587> exaclly SDA1 want to change into linux .....dont want to move sda2 at all
[12:18] <dnm> dnivra: on windows i had to configure but now dont know how to do it on ubuntu
[12:18] <iceroot> digitalchemist: :)
[12:18] <digitalchemist> :-)
[12:19] <FANDER> :-D
[12:19] <dnivra> dnm: when you right click the network manager, do you see the connection listed?
[12:19] <digitalchemist> adam587: choose manual when it comes to the partitioning step
[12:19] <dnivra> dnm: left clikc sorry left click
[12:19] <Daughain> Ok, can someone tell me how to display my core temps?
[12:19] <dnm> dnivra: yup
[12:19] <zer_x252> Dr_Willy: This is mind-boggling
[12:19] <digitalchemist> adam587: you'll be able to choose that partition and use it as '/'
[12:19] <iceroot> Daughain: lm-sensors
[12:19] <adam587> i was there but there are some options such as ext2 ext 3 etc what to do?
[12:19] <FANDER> ok guys what about my bluetooth problem?
[12:19] <lstarnes> Daughain: if lm-sensors is installed, use the command sensors
[12:20] <zer_x252> iceroot: unless he's in karmic, which regressed lm-sensors
[12:20] <Znuff> Hi there! How would I change the running level on Karmic?
[12:20] <lstarnes> adam587: if it's going to be used as your main partition for linux, use ext3 or ext4
[12:20] <dnivra> dnm: when you left click on NM and click on the connection, doesn't it connection?
[12:20] <iceroot> zer_x252: karmic changed so much stuff...
[12:20] <Daughain> I'm running karmic x64, if that makes a difference.
[12:20] <digitalchemist> FANDER: keep getting distracted, trying to set up my device and see if it even works
[12:20] <FANDER> Znuff: running level? what do you mean?
[12:21] <zer_x252> iceroot: indeed, was sad to see my i7 temperatures drop off my conky O.o
[12:21] <digitalchemist> Znuff: maybe telinit?
[12:21] <Znuff> FANDER, run level, init 1, init 2, init 3, init 4, init 5, init 6... what we used to have before ubuntu changed everything :P
[12:21] <digitalchemist> Znuff: FANDER: yeah, that System V stuff is getting replaced by Upstart
[12:21] <Daughain> iceroot; ok, how do I get the values to displayon the desktop?
[12:21] <muzy> Hello everyone, i have some troubles..I deleted /var/cache/apt/ and now apt does not work anymore (even aptitude does not work) how to fix this issue
[12:21] <Znuff> so telinit is the replacement for system v init stuff?
[12:21] <FANDER> Znuff: I have never heard about that before!
[12:21] <zer_x252> Daughain: conky
[12:21] <lstarnes> Znuff: no...
[12:22] <lstarnes> Znuff: telinit has always been used for sysv runlevel switching
[12:22] <r3d2_> muzy> Recreate dirs?
[12:22] <digitalchemist> Znuff: no, but telinit appears to let you change the runlevel
[12:22] <Daughain> zer_x252; Tha dont help.
[12:22] <dnivra> muzy: did you delete the folder /var/cache/apt or it's contents?
[12:22] <Znuff> so how do I change it with upstart?
[12:22] <lstarnes> Znuff: did you try to use that?
[12:22] <muzy> dnivra, both
[12:22] <zer_x252> Daughain: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[12:22] <Znuff> lstarnes, doesn't seem to be doing anything
[12:22] <FANDER> digitalchemist: I want to read about running level in wikipedia, what should I search for? "running level" didn't work
[12:22] <digitalchemist> Znuff: you won't really be able to. The Upstart system replaces the sysv approach. It's more general and usable ultimately
[12:23] <lstarnes> FANDER: runlevel
[12:23] <zer_x252> Daughain: that thread has about a million conky configurations for you to look through, you have to piece together yourself the way you want it to look ;)
[12:23] <Daughain> zer_x252; Thanks.
[12:23] <llutz> muzy: sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt
[12:23] <dnivra> muzy: i'm not sure but just create a new /var/cache/apt folder. then open synaptic and click "Reload" on the top left corner. should work.
[12:23] <r3d2_> FANDER "linux runlevel"
[12:23] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I'll get you a link ... but it'll come at the cost of another interruption to setting up my device   :-P
[12:23] <llutz> muzy: sudo apt-get update
[12:23] <FANDER> digitalchemist: no I found it :)
[12:23] <digitalchemist> FANDER: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel
[12:23] <muzy> llutz, he told me that "/var/cache/apt/archives/partial" is missing
[12:24] <Znuff> So I can't do like a "soft-reboot" that we used to do with init 1, then init 3?
[12:24] <digitalchemist> FANDER: just a little time wasted then   :-D
[12:24] <r3d2_> digitalchemist, I'll buy you a beautiful dress, but the cost is a dance..
[12:24] <FANDER> digitalchemist: SETUP YOUR DEVICE :D
[12:24] <llutz> muzy: sudo mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[12:24] <digitalchemist> Znuff: there'll be an event that can do that
[12:24] <digitalchemist> r3d2_: hahaha!
[12:24] <Emry> How does a person get rubygems in 9.10?
[12:24] <Daughain> zer_x252; That thread dont make sense to me. Raw newb here. :P
[12:24] <r3d2_> grins
[12:24] <FANDER> r3d2_: hahahha
[12:24] <dnivra> llutz: are archives & partial also needed?
[12:24] <FANDER> r3d2_: you are the man!
[12:25] <muzy> thanks llutz now it works
[12:25] <dnivra> llutz: won't they be automatically created by apt?
[12:25] <llutz> dnivra: it seems
[12:25] <llutz> dnivra: [13:23:58] <muzy> llutz, he told me that "/var/cache/apt/archives/partial" is missing
[12:25] <lstarnes> Znuff: initctl might have something to do with it
[12:25] <zer_x252> Daughain: I remember those days :D I wanted a conky on my desktop so bad LOL http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html
[12:25] <dnivra> llutz: oh missed that since I cleared scrollback:).
[12:25]  * Emry is wondering if he would be better off with 8.04 :P
[12:25] <r3d2_> Why?
[12:26] <zer_x252> Daughain: SuperKaramba is MUCH easier to use than conky, you just add little applets in and stuff
[12:26] <Daughain> Ok, I dont remember having al this trouble when I installed 9.04.....
[12:26] <lstarnes> Znuff: upstart might not have built-in runlevel handling
[12:26] <Qiit>        __
[12:26] <Qiit>  __   (__`\
[12:26] <Qiit> (__`\   \\`\
[12:26] <FloodBot2> Qiit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:26] <r3d2_> If you got it all sorted and had a conky desktop you'd know what? The temp of your CPU? GPU? It's not all that exciting..
[12:27] <zer_x252> Daughain: You had sensors on your desktop without installing extra software?
[12:27] <r3d2_> I had to install lm_sensors, I think
[12:27] <Daughain> r3d2_; I have overheating issues on this laptop. :P I need to see what the CPU's are doing.
[12:28] <zer_x252> r3d2_: I rarely use conky for that useless stuff anymore, yeah I've got temperatures in there, but I mainly use my conky for displaying useful things, a calendar, upcoming cronjobs, folding@home WU progress, bandwidth usage
[12:28] <jasman> !udp
[12:28] <lstarnes> Znuff: try sudo initctl start rc? (where ? is the runlevel)
[12:28] <r3d2_> Daughain, you prolly want to take your laptop apart and clean the heatsinks.
[12:28] <_qUaNtUm_> hi guys, items are not being visualized on my bookmarks toolbar: i have many of em and they dont fit in the space of my screen so usually at the end of the toolbar there's a little arrow and by clicking on it the remaining ones appear, now there's no arrow and just the sign of another bookmark, if i right click on it, itz this  "bookmarks toolbar items" icon which is never been there before, i run ubuntu 8.10 with ff3 thanks
[12:28] <Daughain> I dont remember installing more than lm-sensors.....Just had a list of core temps across the top of the desktop.
[12:28] <r3d2_> I've had to clean mine once a year
[12:28] <r3d2_> It helps.
[12:28] <zer_x252> Daughain: after installing and configuring lm-sensors, right click your gnome-panel click add to panel
[12:29] <Daughain> r3d2_; Been there. Reinstalled fan with fresh arctic silver.  I see it in netstat
[12:30] <r3d2_> "thermal compound evaporated" --- Um, No.
[12:30] <zer_x252> udp is a protocol
[12:30] <lstarnes> jasman: you know what tcp is, right?
[12:30] <dnivra> jasman: udp stands for user datagram protocol
[12:30] <r3d2_> Do your thermal compound properly in the first place.
[12:30] <zer_x252> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udp
[12:30] <Qiit>        __
[12:30] <Daughain> zer_x252,;Lemme find the panel thing...
[12:30] <lstarnes> jasman: udp, like tcp, is used for packet transport
[12:30] <Qiit>  __   (__`\
[12:30] <Qiit> (__`\   \\`\
[12:30] <FloodBot2> Qiit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <lstarnes> !ops | Qiit cross-channel flooding
[12:31] <sixtila> my ubuntu cd got corrupted - is it possible to install ubuntu online or smthg?
[12:31] <r3d2_> Everyone thinks they know how to thermal compound their CPU. They get the BEST stuff, then layer a mm of it, which wrecks things.
[12:32] <r3d2_> You need less than a tenth of a mm
[12:32] <dnivra> !install > dnivra
[12:32] <r3d2_> The more you add, the more it insulates.
[12:32] <Darkchylde> i was going to say you only need a small drop, but that works too.
[12:32] <zer_x252> r3d2_: which is why I reference the youtube video of how to properly apply it when I tell people to do it
[12:33] <r3d2_> I've used a credit card to spread a tiny drop over the heatsink, and that's plenty from what I read
[12:33] <Daughain> oK, where do I find gnome-panel?
[12:33] <Darkchylde> there's a reason they say you can get so many uses out of that teeny tiny tube of thermal paste, after all.
[12:33] <sixtila> i currently have ubuntu 9.04 32 bit - can i upgrade to Karmic 64 bit online ? (without having to burn another disk)?
[12:33] <zer_x252> Darkchylde: the small drop in the center was acceptable during early computing days, with the amount of thermal dissipation required to cool CPUs and GPUs these days, that just doesnt cover the whole surface area properly
[12:33] <lstarnes> sixtila: no
[12:34] <lstarnes> sixtila: but you can gp to the 32-bit version of karmic
[12:34] <lstarnes> *go
[12:34] <Darkchylde> zer_x252: to be fair, i haven't had to apply it to anything more recent than an athlon XP.
[12:34] <zer_x252> r3d2_: thats the exact method used in the video, card and all
[12:34] <r3d2_> As long as you cover the heat-exchange of your cpu in a very fine layer, I say it's good.
[12:34] <zer_x252> Darkchylde: wasn't insulting the method :D I used to do it, and then came mr i7
[12:35] <Daughain> zer_x252; I did re-apply arctic silver, about 6 hours ago. Still hasnt helped. And, where do I find gnome-panel?
[12:35] <Darkchylde> i know.
[12:35] <bazhang> !ot | r3d2_
[12:35] <lstarnes> Darkchylde: it can be run from the terminal or alt+f2
[12:35] <dnivra> how's 64bit edition of Ubuntu? friends told me not many apps have 64 bit versions. is it true?
[12:35] <lstarnes> Darkchylde: it is not in the applications menu because it is not a regular application, but it is a core component of gnome
[12:35] <zer_x252> Daughain: gnome-panel is the control bar with the menus
[12:36] <lstarnes> dnivra: most programs do
[12:36] <r3d2_> Daughain, if you didn't clean your CPU with ethyl alcohol you haven't got rid of the FIRST layer of heat-transfer
[12:36] <digitalchemist> Daughain: to find the executable's location, "which gnome-panel"
[12:36] <liar> hey, i just got a medion P82001 digital notepad. the driver works, its detected as /dev/input/mouse1. my problem is: i just move the cursor but i
[12:36] <bazhang> r3d2_, please take hardware chat elsewhere
[12:36] <Daughain> Ah, didnt know what that was called.
[12:36] <dnivra> lstarnes: cool. I'll find out more thanks.
[12:36] <liar> i just can move the cursor but i cant click or scroll*
[12:36] <Daughain> r3d2_; I may be new to linux, I am not new to hardware. :P
[12:37] <r3d2_> bazhang - sure, soz - I don't care either way.
[12:37] <lstarnes> dnivra: I have been using it since 7.10 and I haven't had any major issues other than java and flash
[12:37] <lee> this place is rather busier than I anticipated
[12:37] <sixtila_> i currently have ubuntu 9.04 32 bit - can i upgrade to Karmic 64 bit online ? (without having to burn another disk)?
[12:37] <lstarnes> dnivra: but I don't have issues with those in 8.04 anymore
[12:37] <lstarnes> sixtila: no.
[12:37] <lstarnes> sixtila_: you will have to install from scratch to go from 32 to 64
[12:38] <zer_x252> speaking of new to linux, any insight as to why I cant login to anything besides gnome failsafe with gdm? I can login to anything if I kill gdm, but only gnome-failsafe if i login using gdm
[12:38] <dnivra> lstarnes: that's news to me. might shift to 64. thanks.
[12:38] <lstarnes> sixtila_: but you can use the update manager to go from 32-bit 9.04 to 32-bit 9.10
[12:38] <sixtila_> lstarnes , during boot i get SOFTRESET FAILED...
[12:38] <kyentei> As if you need the 4GB of RAM perse.
[12:38] <sixtila_> what does that mean
[12:38] <lstarnes> dnivra: how long ago did you hear about apps not having 64-bit versions?
[12:38] <r3d2_> zer - That's really, really odd. What does dmesg say?
[12:38] <lstarnes> sixtila_: I don't know
[12:38] <bazhang> kyentei, an install of linux-generic-pae on 32 bit karmic will show all 4GB
[12:39] <digitalchemist> FANDER: I can see the computer when I try to send from my device, but I haven't been able to do a successful send yet ...
[12:39] <dnivra> lstarnes: just before jaunty released I'd say.
[12:39] <kyentei> bazhang: Hmm, did not know that. So what would be the motivation to use 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:39] <zer_x252> r3d2_: not much in the ballpark of gdm: http://pastebin.com/m6d9d6e12
[12:39] <dnivra> lstarnes: just after jaunty released. sorry.
[12:40] <bazhang> dnivra, just about everything has 64bit apps, with the possible exception of mupen or zsnes
[12:40] <dnivra> bazhang: It'll show alll 4GB; but does it use all 4GB of RAM?
[12:40] <bazhang> dnivra, sure
[12:40] <zer_x252> r3d2_: http://pastebin.com/m76615796 full dmesg
[12:41] <bazhang> kyentei, video compositing or other tasks as such
[12:41] <dnivra> that's news bazhang; will have to try that perhaps
[12:41] <kyentei> bazhang: I see. Alright.
[12:41] <lenny__> motivation to use 64-bit OSs? to waste memory of course
[12:42] <zer_x252> r3d2_: in fact it looks like dmesg has nothing to say about gdm
[12:42] <lstarnes> lenny__: that;s not the only reason to use 64-bit
[12:42] <zer_x252> lenny__: damn right, 12gb of memory and I still feel like I'm not wasting enough
[12:42] <Daughain> Ah, found it. Need the sensors-applet installed as well.
[12:43] <zer_x252> Daughain: oh, I thought the gnome-panel applet came installed my bad ><
[12:43] <lenny__> lstarnes: no, that's the only reason because you have 0 added features but nearly double memory usage
[12:43] <zer_x252> lenny__: you are severely missinformed as to what 64-bit is
[12:43] <lenny__> I men there is an added feature... you can address more than 4GB of ram
[12:43] <Daughain> zer_x252; No worries, I didnt remember either, but, figgered I would take a look for what I missed. I couldnr remember the names to begin with. =)
[12:44] <zer_x252> lenny__: 64-bit doesnt refer to how memory is allocated, it refers to the number of bits of data the processor processes in a single iteration
[12:44] <lenny__> but you need to address more than 4GB of ram only if you're wasting a lot
[12:44] <lenny__> zer_x252: I know that
[12:44] <lstarnes> lenny__: I can name at least one example: applications that use numbers larger than 32 bits in size can use them natively insetad of needing to emulate larger numbers, which results in a performance boost
[12:44] <zer_x252> ^
[12:44] <lenny__> lstarnes: you can do that in 32 bit mode too
[12:44] <inawarminister> Excuse me, everyone...
[12:45] <lstarnes> lenny__: yes, via a hack called PAW
[12:45] <lstarnes> *PAE
[12:45] <inawarminister> Is wacom tablets are supported by ubuntu?
[12:45] <lstarnes> lenny__: there are things which even in their most efficient, lowest-memory forms will still need more than 4 GB
[12:45] <lenny__> and you have access to vector instuctions and whatnot in 32 bit mode too
[12:45] <lstarnes> inawarminister: I think so
[12:45] <zer_x252> lenny__: most specifically in games where lots of floating point math is done, and in emulators where you are emulating architectures that are complicated enough to fill a 32-bit floating point register in a single iteration
[12:45] <m44v> Hi
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[12:45] <FloodBot2> m44v: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <lenny__> zer_x252: you are mistaken. 64 means the size of pointers nothing to do with numbers
[12:46] <lenny__> doesn't affect floating point of integer math at all
[12:46] <lstarnes> lenny__: you sound like the people who argued against 32-bit back when 16-bit was the standard
[12:46] <bazhang> lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:46] <lenny__> I never argued for 16 bit. I like 32 bits
[12:47] <zer_x252> lenny__: actually lenny it has a lot to do with numbers, it doesnt change the math, just the size of the number you can do math with
[12:47] <lenny__> no
[12:47] <lenny__> you're wrong
[12:47] <lenny__> only the size of the pointer
[12:47] <bazhang> lenny__, zer_x252 #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:47] <lenny__> I was just replying
[12:47]  * Dr_Willis goes back to his C64 who needs all these bits.
[12:47] <r3d2_> Oh, the huge manatee's.... We can code without large numbers.
[12:47] <lenny__> don't take it with me
[12:47] <portn0k_> hey, ive got an HP pavilion a1020n, the onboard video card works fine.  ive also got an ATI Radeon 7000 (PCI), but it doesnt display anything.  `lspci` lists it for VGA, nothing i try is working
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> inawarminister:  my wacom tablets have worked.. they are the older ones however.
[12:48] <zer_x252> Dr_Willis: any other things to try with that gdm issue I was having earlier?
[12:48] <lenny__> also, I have a question specific to ubuntu. Two days after the installation something weird happened to me
[12:48] <OpenSorce> I've seen a lot of mboards that will not use an addon card if the onboard one is working
[12:49] <daftykins> portn0k_: try disabling the onboard in BIOS if you want to use the card
[12:49] <zer_x252> lenny__: yes?
[12:49] <r3d2_> If your're not running a massive DB, SETI At Home, or exchanging currency, you don't need 30 decimal places.
[12:49] <portn0k_> daftykins: i tried that, when i boot up though it drops me into a busybox shell
[12:49] <r3d2_> But make all your floating point numbers LONG DOUBLES anyway
[12:49] <lenny__> I opened a shell and all of a sudden the terminal session had printed something to the screen
[12:49] <lenny__> something like this
[12:49] <lstarnes> lenny__: what did it print?
[12:49] <lenny__> *** DO U LIKE GUYS Y OR N
[12:49] <portn0k_> daftykins: from there im unable to do much really, i tried moutning my partitions to run `startx` and such but no luck
[12:50] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah, have you got a fully updated install of, Karmic i assume?
[12:50] <portn0k_> daftykins: afaik
[12:50] <adsflhsf> im building small server-client pair with ubuntu.
[12:50] <daftykins> hrmm, only thing i can think of is that there's really poor support for that card or something
[12:50] <daftykins> portn0k_: when you boot with livecd what card is used? the onboard?
[12:50] <adsflhsf> i dont remember what ports where for free use ??
[12:50] <portn0k_> daftykins: i have no livecd
[12:51] <adsflhsf> what UDP ports i can use by default ??
[12:51] <r3d2_> LONG DOUBLE canOfCoke = 0.30000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 =P
[12:51] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: almost any of them between 0 and 65535
[12:51] <bazhang> r3d2_, please stop that
[12:51] <r3d2_> I thought it was funny.
[12:51] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: some might be reserved though, but you'll get an error if you try to use them
[12:51] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah how did you install?
[12:51] <portn0k_> livecd, but i dont have it anymore
[12:51] <adsflhsf> what are the recommended ??
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: also, you might only be able to use ports equal to or above 1024 if you aren't root or using sudo
[12:52] <zer_x252> quick question on restore install from livecd
[12:52] <adsflhsf> 49100 - 49150
[12:52] <digitalchemist> adsflhsf: anything above 1024 should be available with user-level auth
[12:52] <adsflhsf> so many oh !
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: it depends on what protocol you are using with udp
[12:52] <adsflhsf> im using with UDP
[12:52] <zer_x252> will i lose everything? as in.. have to do all the customization work again?
[12:52] <Daughain> OK, whats the command to configure an app?
[12:52] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: what are you using with udp?
[12:52] <zer_x252> if so, I'm just gonna keep logging into the failsafe terminal
[12:52] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[12:53] <adsflhsf> lstarnes : boardgame server with java.
[12:53] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: were you able to create a new user and log in successfully with that?
[12:53] <daftykins> portn0k_: ah ok, i'm outof ideas then i'm afraid, could download and write one if you have a blank disc?
[12:53] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: it would depend on the udp ports that that program is designed to use by default
[12:53] <portn0k_> daftykins: yeahi guess so.  thanks for your time
[12:53] <minimec> Daughain: sudo dpkg-reconfigure 'yourapp' With this command you set your app back to default... for example.
[12:53] <zer_x252> digitalchemist: shamefully, no, I went to windows for about 2 years, and wanted to come back to linux, so this was originally installed next to a windows install for me to work back into linux...
[12:53] <lstarnes> adsflhsf: otherwise, you might be able to use almost anything
[12:53] <daftykins> no problemo!
[12:54] <adsflhsf> so, i can choose freely, ok !! thanks !!
[12:54] <zer_x252> diditalchemist: no, I created a new user, and I had the same issue with the new user as I did with my original user
[12:54] <zer_x252> digitalchemist*
[12:54] <lukas__> elo
[12:54] <Daughain> minimec, Its already at default, I need to change it, and then figger out how to get the damn thing to run. Or at least find it so I can use it. =)
[12:54] <zer_x252> Daughain: what app?
[12:54] <lukas__> Hello
[12:54] <Daughain> sensors-applet
[12:55] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: just back up your user folder before doing anything ... you might be able to simply replace the fresh-install one with your backed up one. Since you weren't able to login with a new account, it probably isn't a problem with anything in your home folder
[12:55] <lukas__> how can i play SAMP on Ubuntu ?
[12:55] <minimec> Daughain: System wide configuration files are normally stored in /etc/youtapp/config or in a file in /etc.
[12:55] <Daughain> zer_x252; I installed with synaptics, but still cant find it on the panel.
[12:56] <Daughain> zer_x252; I installed with synaptics, but still cant find it on the panel.
[12:56] <digitalchemist> Daughain: try killall gnome-panel then look for it
[12:56] <Daughain> dAMMIT
[12:56] <zer_x252> Daughain: right-click on your gnome panel (thats the grey bar at the top) and click add to panel, scroll through there and there should be one that says sensors-applet, also make sure you run sudo sensors-detect in a terminal to configure lmsensors
[12:56] <Daughain> minimec; Raw newb here. I just barely followed what you said, and dont feel like I wanna tinker with things I dont understand. =)
[12:57] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto Daughain have you seen this
[12:57] <Daughain> zer_x252; Lemme run the config first.....Though, sensors-applet does *not* as of yet show in the 'add to panel'.
[12:57] <Daughain> IN about three min I will, bazhang. Thanks.
[12:58] <zer_x252> Daughain: i reccomend that link
[12:58] <Yraya> hi everybody
[12:58] <Daughain> Waiting for it to load, zer_x252. Reinstall hasnt helped my slow as shit web opage loading.
[12:59] <zer_x252> Daughain: also, if you sudo killall gnome-panel in a terminal it will restart the gnome-panel, click add to panel again it should be called Hardware Sensors Monitor
[12:59] <jasman> What antivirus for ubuntu?
[12:59] <minimec> Daughain: What software you need to be configured?
[12:59] <rsk> jasman, you don't need it
[12:59] <lstarnes> !antivirus | jasman
[12:59] <rsk> jasman, unless you want to scan other files on windows pc on the network or similar
[13:00] <zer_x252> minimec: hes trying to get lmsensors to display temperatures on his desktop, but doesnt want to fiddle with conky or karamba, so I'm pointing him in the direction of sensors-applet for gnome-panel
[13:00] <Daughain> zer_x252; That was it. Once again, I dont remember names, and was looking for the wrong thing.
[13:00] <zer_x252> Daughain: =D glad to hear you got it :D
[13:00] <Daughain> So am I. =)
[13:01] <digitalchemist> zer_x252: Daughain: screenlets might be work ... sudo apt-get install screenlets
[13:01] <Daughain> digitalchemist; I'm going slow here and getting this sys back to what I had before....*Then* I will play with new things.
[13:02] <zer_x252> Daughain: make a good backup of your system when you get it where you want it, then you can feel free to explore linux as much as you want :D
[13:02] <Daughain> Though, mebbe re-applying thermal paste helped....My temps are down to normal.
[13:02] <minimec> zer_x252: Good idea. Did he install that applet?
[13:02] <zer_x252> minimec: yes, exactly what he wanted :D
[13:02] <Daughain> zer_x252; No, I just need another system I dont actualy *need* for anything. =)
[13:03] <m0rph1as> Merry X-Mas 2 U All...
[13:03] <zer_x252> minimec: as for my issue, it looks like a reinstall is in store for me ><
[13:03] <Daughain> minimec; I had the applet installed, just wasnt looking for the right name in the panel.
[13:03] <minimec> zer_x252: I guess that modified driver is buggy, don't you think...
[13:03] <r3d2_> Merry Christmas to you, M0rph1as :)
[13:04] <m0rph1as> thank you.
[13:04] <zer_x252> christmas is off-top :P
[13:04] <Daughain> Hmmmm....ust remembered, I removed the fan cover to see how much difference that made...
[13:04] <zer_x252> jk
[13:04] <zer_x252> Merry christmas
[13:04] <r3d2_> lol zer
[13:04] <vfen> merry xmas
[13:04] <m0rph1as> lol
[13:05] <r3d2_> Merry christmas to ANYONE who's faught linux, and WON! :)
[13:05] <m0rph1as> haha.  i installed 10.04 for my gift :-P
[13:05] <zer_x252> r3d2_: Oh, i see how it is, just because I'm cowering in defeat...
[13:05] <digitalchemist> !ot | bah-humbug
[13:05] <r3d2_> lol zer ;)
[13:06] <digitalchemist> humor is off-topic ... bad robots!
[13:06] <zer_x252> r3d2_: still the weirdest issue I've seen in linux, and I've been toying with this OS for almost 10 years ><
[13:06] <zer_x252> not as weird as compiz not supporting xdamage properly though ><
[13:07] <r3d2_> Zer - I think Windows 7 is the best OS over, just because I don't have to constantly fix my wife's computer.
[13:07] <bazhang> !ot
[13:07] <r3d2_> I think that classifies as a loss, too
[13:07] <AnirbanHazra> can anyone give the sources.list file for Ubuntu Server 8.04 LTS for server residing in USA.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> r3d2_:  i dont care what OS my wife uses.. she can crash a toaster oven
[13:08] <r3d2_> Not to self: Don't buy your wife a laptop if you don't want to spend your life fixing it.
[13:08] <ortsvorsteher> !sources.list | AnirbanHazra
[13:08] <r3d2_> "Note"
[13:08] <r3d2_> Dr_Willis, my wife must know yours, they're good like that...
[13:08] <adsflhsf> Hello! Is there a gethost () on UDP datagrams ??
[13:09] <adsflhsf> to know the server IP ??
[13:09] <zer_x252> adsflhsf what exactly have you been trying to do?
[13:09] <adsflhsf> i havent fully understood the UDP way to work !!
[13:09] <imaginativeone> wives & computers - yet another item that feminism doesn't address
[13:09] <adsflhsf> maybe i should read few googles first.
[13:09] <zer_x252> well, I'm going to reinstall tomorrow, just after I finally finished "converting" from ntfs to ext3 on my 4tb raid array
[13:10] <adsflhsf> im on a Java applet with datagrams.
[13:10] <adsflhsf> is there a way to know the host IP with UDP datagrams ??
[13:10] <r3d2_> zer - nice, don't hold your breath..
[13:10] <adsflhsf> or should i insert host ip on a code ??
[13:10] <adsflhsf> *client code ??
[13:11] <zer_x252> gnight everyone, I need to get some sleep
[13:11] <AnirbanHazra> ortsvorsteher: I only have shell access .
[13:11] <r3d2_> It's a myth that linux monkeys have no taste in music - what are you listening to? ( and if it isn't Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix, why not? ;) )
[13:12] <ortsvorsteher> AnirbanHazra, and you dont have a browser on your client pc?
[13:13] <AnirbanHazra> ortsvorsteher: No , is this fine ? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/sample/sources.list ??
[13:13] <phako> hi. How can I hook up to the ACPI undock event?
[13:13] <ortsvorsteher> AnirbanHazra, yes, i think this will be fine
[13:13] <r3d2_> A mate of mine bought ten copies of Mumford and Sons for his music xmas presents, and it's a good album, but I still would have gone w/ Phoenix
[13:15] <sixtila> my unetbootin says no flash drive- format it as FAT32 - but it is already in FAT32
[13:18] <joshyfluff> Hai all :D
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> sixtila:  be sure its looking at the right drive.
[13:18] <sixtila> i think i better use USB creator
[13:18] <sixtila> thanks
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> sixtila:  if you want a peristant save file - yes. Use usb-creator
[13:19] <joshyfluff> Can anyone help me with my wacom bamboo issues?  It's gonna be a tablet, right?
[13:21] <joshyfluff> Its a tablet, yeah
[13:21] <joshyfluff> Whoops, forgot to say it was a tablet earlier, sorry ^^'
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  you did check for ubuntu 9.10 specific guides?   xorg.conf is rather minima these days
[13:21] <joshyfluff> I did, yes
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Minimal. :)
[13:22] <joshyfluff> I followed the tutorial and it turns out that his build has it, but mine doesn't D:
[13:22] <jacob_> Sorry i know this isnt' the rigth place for the post...but does anyone know if there is a IRC for Wine?
[13:22] <lstarnes> jacob_: you mean an irc channel?  try #winehq on this network
[13:22] <joshyfluff> Google IRC Windows ^^
[13:22] <joshyfluff> Oh
[13:23] <jacob_> lstarnes: ty
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  tell the chennal what guide you followed.
[13:24] <simplexio> jacob_: and why would you want run ric client in wine if there are many native irc apps for linux?
[13:24] <joshyfluff> http://audiophysical.squarespace.com/blog/2009/1/6/using-bamboo-wacom-in-ubuntu-is-a-12-step-program.html
[13:24] <joshyfluff> My mistake, he is on 8.04, I think
[13:24] <simplexio> uh.. and names probably went wrong
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> joshyfluff:  check http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1363027     yet?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> 8.04? that may make it much harder
[13:25] <joshyfluff> I checked that, yeah
[13:25] <joshyfluff> I installed all 3 of those, trying it ewach time and none of them work
[13:25] <joshyfluff> each*
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> There were some large changes in how xorg.conf is from 8.04 to 9.10
[13:25] <jacob_> simplexio: i recently deleted my windows partition..and the only thing i used it for was world of warcraft...so to my knowledge without paying wine is the best at running it
[13:26] <joshyfluff> When I run xsetwacom list, no listing is listed ; ;
[13:26] <joshyfluff> But no errors come up either
[13:27] <joshyfluff> Then again, it sees my webcam as a keyboard
[13:29] <dreamy> is there any channel to chat about anything related to linux and sound, besides ubuntu-studio?
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> its a multi function device i imagine. Keyboard/mouse/and other.
[13:29] <joshyfluff> Its one of those 3D ones, it has 2 cameras in it C:
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> egads...
[13:30] <joshyfluff> But yeah, nothing seems to be working for me tablet wise ._.
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> what next.. smell-o-vision?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:30] <jacob_> sorry been a while since i used smuxi...how to you change to a different channel?
[13:31] <sixtila2> booting from usbcreator , asks for a password- any idea?
[13:32] <joshyfluff> try just pressing enter, or typing ubuntu
[13:32] <crapper> i have to take a dump.
[13:32]  * crapper shits.
[13:32] <joshyfluff> lolspam
[13:33] <OpenSorce> Bazhang did not like that word :-P
[13:33] <sixtila2> enter dont work nor ubuntu
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> sixtila2:  seen that when the system dont boot prtoperly
[13:33] <adsflhsf> Hello and Merry Christmas! I have a question of UDP packets! What is the best way to read packets when packets are on different sizes and there is very lot of them on second ??
[13:34] <joshyfluff> I'll keep looking around, see if I can maybe find a wacom channel, or something ^^
[13:34] <adsflhsf> is that a ubuntu question anymore ??
[13:34] <d4a65a> is it possible to install two graphical environmets eg GNOME and LXDE ?
[13:34] <bazhang> d4a65a, sure is, more than two if wanted
[13:34] <d4a65a> how to do that?
[13:34] <bazhang> d4a65a, eg lubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop , xubuntu-desktop
[13:35] <bazhang> d4a65a, this is karmic 9.10 ?
[13:35] <d4a65a> yeah 64 bit
[13:35] <bazhang> d4a65a, then choose which one you want from login window under session
[13:35] <d4a65a> ok gr8 ... ubuntu is great ... thanks
[13:36] <jacob_> sorry i know this isn't the right chat..but its the default one....what is the command to open a new IRC channel?
[13:36] <Craig`> hey, is there a simple way to use some code for mouse emulation in ubuntu? i'm not sure if there's a ruby library, but I guess C may be alright, not that I want to use it, (kinda related to ubuntu hence why I asked here)
[13:36] <bazhang> jacob_, channel? /join #channel
[13:36] <jacob_> bazhang: ty
[13:38] <tolpico> I have some NTFS drives, how do I auto mount them at login?
[13:38] <u2ix> tolpico: add them to /etc/fstab
[13:38] <apocalypt> !fstab | tolpico
[13:39] <Craig`> can someone help please? ^
[13:40] <bazhang> Craig`, with ruby? you may wish to /msg alis list *ruby* for an appropriate channel
[13:41] <Craig`> bazhang, I already know a channel for ruby, it's just I was wondering if there is some sort of system command for ubuntu for mouse emulation, just when people asked what OS I used they recommended coming here, and asking for help
[13:42] <Daughain> OK, who wants to have the fun of giving me a hand setting up samba?
[13:42] <arreche> hello
[13:42] <arreche> where is the package eel-2.0?
[13:45] <Daughain> I see that was a popular request. =)
[13:45] <axyjo> hi all, how do I prevent init.d scripts  from  starting automatically? I've got a netbook that I use for browsing and some web-dev, so I'd like to prevent apache+mysql from running unless I start them manually
[13:45] <tolpico> u2ix, apocalypt ubottu thanks
[13:46] <bazhang> arreche, libeel2-2?
[13:46] <llutz> axyjo: sudo update-rc.d -f >script< remove
[13:46] <axyjo> llutz: thanks
[13:46] <petran1368> 13pn6801av69
[13:46] <bazhang> petran1368, ??
[13:48] <arreche> bazhang: I don't know. is needed to compile nautilus-python
[13:49] <bazhang> arreche, why do you need to compile that; what version of ubuntu are you on
[13:49] <bazhang> arreche, assuming you mean python-nautilus
[13:50] <arreche> bazhang: ubuntu karmic. I'm trying to compile nautilus using jhbuild
[13:51] <bazhang> arreche, python-nautilus is in the repos
[13:53] <arreche> bazhang: thanks. I'll try again after install that package
[13:53] <Rizwaan> hi evrybdy..
[13:53] <Rizwaan> i am a newbie to ubuntu..
[13:54] <Rizwaan> just install and work fine until i install nvidia 190.53 driver..
[13:54] <tolpico> Is there a manual of apt-get commands, or we have to just guess? May be a database where we can search by keywords?
[13:54] <Rizwaan> can anyone help
[13:54] <Yos> Hi Rizwaan
[13:54] <Rizwaan> ??
[13:54] <Rizwaan> hi yos
[13:54] <bazhang> tolpico, sure there is
[13:54] <clepto> hi i got a problem. i upgraded my windows vista to windows 7 on my dual boot ubuntu notebook and ofcourse it messed up grub so i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows to repair it and it restored grub but with the old windows vista loader... and that wont boot windows 7... any help?
[13:54] <bazhang> tolpico, using the man command in terminal
[13:55] <r3d2_> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[13:55] <r3d2_> Sorry.
[13:55] <r3d2_> Windows 7.
[13:55] <clepto> dont be a hater
[13:55] <Rizwaan> can anyone help...?
[13:55] <bazhang> tolpico, in this case man apt-get
[13:56] <clepto> sadly its my work laptop
[13:56] <mmarc__> hi
[13:56] <clepto> and if they knew i was running linux on it they would kill me
[13:56] <mmarc__> what do we have in evolution about M$ Exchange 2007 support? Looks like evolution-api is not solving the problem.
[13:56] <mmarc__> "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector   supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only."
[13:56] <r3d2_> Sorry. Got excited.
[13:57] <clepto> sadly its my work laptop
[13:57] <bazhang> clepto, windows 7 has a strange 100mb bootloader it installs, is this a fresh ubuntu install?
[13:57] <clepto> and if they knew i was running linux on it they would kill me
[13:57] <clepto> no
[13:57] <clepto> its a fresh windows 7 install
[13:58] <clepto> i already had ubuntu and vista on it
[13:58] <clepto> but i had to delete the vista partition and install windows 7 over it
[13:58] <bazhang> clepto, what version of ubuntu
[13:58] <clepto> 9.10
[13:58] <bazhang> clepto, did you upgrade or fresh install (ie is it grub2)
[13:58] <clepto> yes its grub2
[13:58] <tolpico> bazhang, thanks, yes its really helpful, but we need to enter the exact name we are looking for, in some cases when we don't exact command, is tehre a keyword tool which displays approximate results for what we are searching?
[13:59] <bazhang> clepto, should be sudo update-grub to fix it
[13:59] <Thijs> Merry christmas everyone
[13:59] <aksci> i recovered a few files, using ntfsundelete, but they don't have their filenames! how do i know their original properties??
[13:59] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI?
[13:59] <clepto> ...
[14:00] <bazhang> tolpico, if you could specify what you are looking for someone may know, reading the manual is also available in html form online
[14:00] <clepto> bazhang: that was so easy its retarded...
[14:00] <bazhang> clepto, it worked?
[14:00] <clepto> wow
[14:00] <clepto> yeah
[14:00] <bazhang> great
[14:00] <IdleOne> !cookie | bazhang
[14:00] <clepto> output
[14:00] <clepto> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[14:00] <Emry> :P I have samba installed on my linux box.. I am contemplating mounting an nfs share in the directory tree that samba points to in order to access it from windows, is that a good idea? :P
[14:00] <clepto> so im assuming it did
[14:00] <bazhang> clepto, be sure to boot into both to make sure though
[14:01] <clepto> ill just have to reboot to see if it doesnt work ill be back
[14:01] <clepto> if it did work merry christmas guys!
[14:01] <bazhang> IdleOne, :)
[14:02] <Psinetic> hey guys, i'm running Ubuntu 9.10 64bit. I'm trying to convert over to UbuntuCE, but it's giving me an error when i run the command lines they told me to run. any help please?
[14:02] <Psinetic> http://pastebin.com/d115d9038
[14:02] <m0rph1as> u two clepto
[14:03] <Daughain> Can anyone tell me what file I need to edit for to get samba on an existing network?
[14:04] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI? My computer freezes up at the administration menu, unless i install the proper ati drivers, but i need to get into that screen first
[14:04] <Thijs> normally it would pop up at the right corner taskbar, but it doesn't
[14:04] <Psinetic> rather slow in here tonight :S
[14:06] <Psinetic> can someone help me with this please?
[14:06] <Psinetic> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:06] <Psinetic>   ubuntu-ce: Depends: wine-christian-repos but it is not going to be installed
[14:06] <Psinetic> E: Broken packages
[14:06] <FloodBot2> Psinetic: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:06] <redonkulous> So can I get some help with GRUB2
[14:07] <bazhang> redonkulous, what was the actual question
[14:07] <redonkulous> Whenever I try to boot into Windows XP I am left with a black screen and a clinking cursor
[14:07] <Daughain> Guess not.
[14:07] <bazhang> redonkulous, which was installed first
[14:07] <redonkulous> Windows
[14:08] <redonkulous> XP is on sda1
[14:08] <bazhang> redonkulous, and you updated grub?
[14:08] <redonkulous> yeah
[14:08] <haresh> hello need some help
[14:09] <haresh> my when i plug in my mp3 it dose not read please help me thanks
[14:09] <redonkulous> did you look in /media/?
[14:09] <redonkulous> should be something like /sbd1/ or something
[14:10] <haresh> i did
[14:10] <haresh> how can i check by terminal  ?
[14:11] <Psinetic> i'm about to fall asleep here, i'm just sitting here waiting on my girlfriend to get online for the next hour trying to get ubuntuce to finally install and keep getting the same error on it >_>
[14:11] <redonkulous> hmm
[14:12] <redonkulous> when I plug my flash drive in it shows up as a crazy named folder in /media/
[14:12] <redonkulous> so it might not be sbd1 or whatever
[14:12] <redonkulous> just plug in in and out and see what directory pops up
[14:12] <haresh> for mine it dose nto shows up
[14:12] <haresh> but it is charing the mp3
[14:13] <redonkulous> so, bazhang, any ideas?
[14:13] <redonkulous> on the grub2?
[14:13] <sixtila2> 2nd time i get the same error- input out error maybe due to faulty cd- but its usb now- is it corrupt download?
[14:14] <silver> redonkulous have you tried a sudo grub-mkconfig?
[14:14] <redonkulous> nay I shall
[14:14] <silver> does grub find the windows bootloader?
[14:14] <redonkulous> no
[14:14] <m0rph1as> silver, yes.
[14:15] <redonkulous> that is my issue
[14:15] <redonkulous> like it recognizes that windows is there
[14:15] <haresh> please help me thnaks
[14:15] <redonkulous> and makes the option to boot to it
[14:15] <redonkulous> but it doesn't boot to it
[14:16] <redonkulous> alright haresh, go into a partition editor and see if you can find your mp3 player in there
[14:16] <redonkulous> if you can then it is connected and it is just a matter of finding where it is
[14:16] <haresh> how do i go there ??
[14:17] <Psinetic> so uh i guess out of the nearly 2200 people in this irc not a single one has any idea what ubuntuCE is and how to fix errors itgets?
[14:17] <silver> redonkulous first try the grub-mkconfig, if this doesn't help put in your windows disk and do a fixmbr fixboot ...then windows will overwrite grub ...after that you have to install grub again via live-cd
[14:18] <redonkulous> yeah I was hoping I wouldn't have to redo the mbr
[14:18] <redonkulous> I did try the fixboot
[14:18] <haresh> please guide me thanks
[14:18] <redonkulous> I jsut did a mkconfig so I'll try that
[14:18] <Thijs> Question. How do i start the hardware drivers gui from CLI? (Fresh install)My computer freezes up at the administration menu, unless i install the proper ati drivers, but i need to get into that screen first
[14:18] <redonkulous> thanks
[14:18] <Daughain> Has anyone else had issues after upgrading to 9.10, instead of doing a frwsh install?
[14:19] <gui7> what's the best/easiest way to burn an iso to a disc?
[14:19] <Thijs> brasero
[14:19] <Thijs> gui7 brasero
[14:19] <Psinetic> *sigh* screw it i'm going to bed >_>
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> right click on iso.. burn to disk.. :)
[14:21] <haresh> any oen please help me
[14:21] <Daughain> Night, Psinetic
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  restate the question and see who can help.
[14:21] <duffydack> hmm 4gig ram, used 1.1gb, and swap using 648k... whats that setting to make it use ram more.....
[14:21] <Daughain> Think we have a shortage of people who can help this morning. =)
[14:21] <Sensiva> Hello All, Did anyone received an error "Intel(0): No valid Modes" after rebooting the paste few days after upgrading?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  yep. That can be expected...
[14:22] <haresh> i plug my mp3 in but its dose nto read but it is charging
[14:22] <Daughain> Dr_Willis, Yup, tis the season.
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Im waiting for my wife to explode from the stress.
[14:22] <Psinetic> Daughain, you're not supposed to tell me goodnight when i leave like that, but thanks anyways.
[14:22] <Daughain> Sensiva, Ya might wanna try a fresh install. I ran across a bunch of issues with the upgrade, so far a fresh install has solved a lot of them.
[14:23] <Daughain> Psinetic, Ok, so I am [polite, get over it. =)
[14:23] <Psinetic> :P
[14:23] <Sensiva> Daughain I meant apt-get upgrade not a release upgrade
[14:23] <m0rph1as> Dr_Willis, sorry to hear that :/
[14:23] <Sensiva> !intel
[14:23] <Sensiva> humph
[14:23] <Daughain> Sensiva, Ah, sorry, can help ya there.
[14:23] <Sensiva> :\
[14:24] <Sensiva> ty
[14:24] <duffydack> whats that setting to make it use ram more.....
[14:24] <gui7> brasero gave me this error: Session error : unknown (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2811)
[14:24] <Pelo> m0rph1as, donT' be sorry,  she stuffed herself with candy last night , the kids are gonna love it
[14:24] <Pelo> ;-)
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> m0rph1as:  she does it every year..  then 'next year we are taking it easy for xmas....' she says..
[14:24]  * Dr_Willis dosent see the point of her wrapping pressents when they are going to get opened in 30 min....
[14:24] <m0rph1as> olry, i have an intel gpu and other than the bad emulation for windows games, it kicks ass with opengl
[14:25] <mmarc__> hi, I've got a "The server is running Exchange 5.5. Exchange Connector   supports Microsoft Exchange 2000 and 2003 only." error in evolution under Karmic. Installation of evolution-mapi does not help. Are there any other options to fix this issue?
[14:25] <haresh> Dr_Willis, how care to help me ?
[14:25] <m0rph1as> i think i get more FPS in OpenGL linux with X3100 than DirectX windows
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  i dont even kniow waht the problem is.,. and i may have to run at any time
[14:28] <haresh> i plug my mp3 in but its dose nto read but it is charging
[14:29] <Daughain> aresh; WHat kind of player?
[14:29]  * Pelo tries to figure out away to present his problem in a consice manner
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  if you mean a mp3 player.  Check 'dmesg' output when you pkug it in - see if its seen as a usb 'drive' that you can access.. if thats the issue
[14:29] <Daughain> Haresh, eve.
[14:29] <haresh> i cant see man
[14:29] <haresh> but it is charging
[14:29] <Dr_Willis> the fact its charging.. means very little.. other then ya got power to it..
[14:29] <Pelo> haresh, what is the model of your mp3 player ?
[14:30] <haresh> creative zen
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> haresh, they are simple to get working
[14:30] <Paddy_NI> haresh, have you googled at all
[14:31] <Daughain> Ok, I have a generic question....How many installs do I need to do before I need a reboot? =)
[14:31] <Halex> Hey there and season greetings to all
[14:31] <Daughain> Monring, Halex, and hapy XMas and all that.
[14:31] <m0rph1as> my desktop is snowing!
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  installs of what?
[14:31] <haresh> i need to rush
[14:32] <haresh> cuz i am going oversea
[14:32]  * m0rph1as loves compiz
[14:32] <Dr_Willis> haresh:  when you first plugin the gizmo - check dmesg output about 5 sec later.. see if it mentions the device.
[14:32] <Halex> I'd like to know if there is any method to diagnose my CD/DVD drive for any defects, cause it stopped working and I know t it a hardware issue , but I can't exactly pin-point the problem
[14:32] <sixtila2> is the download file for karmic64 faulty? i got error second time
[14:33] <haresh> no it dose not
[14:33] <Halex> I know it is*
[14:33] <sixtila2> while installing. it says inp/op error at 27%
[14:33] <Daughain> sixtila2, I had no prob when I dl'ed it. Just got done with a second install of it to.
[14:33] <Daughain> Try a different mirror?
[14:34] <Halex> Daughain: Merry Christmas to you too
[14:34] <sixtila2> different mirror means any other coumtry?
[14:34] <Halex> About that issue of mine, is there anyone here I could ask?
[14:34] <r3d2_> Halex. you could check the md5 checksum of what you downloaded to the provided md5
[14:34] <Daughain> Depends on what options you have. May mean another country, may just mean one in another sate.
[14:35] <Daughain> Halex; Is it even spinning?
[14:35] <r3d2_> lol
[14:35] <sixtila2> daughain could u send link of ur downloaded file- for amd64
[14:35] <tolpico> I installed this (sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu) to open nautilus with super privileges. But how do I use it, I mean how do i open nautilus as su now?
[14:36] <RainyLithuanian> hi, pc crashed during update and there are 2 packages damaged, how to recover them?
[14:36] <Daughain> sixtila2, I dont have the link.....Just check ubuntu.com for sites.
[14:36] <r3d2_> tolpico, you might have the option to own with gksudo when you right-click on stuff (i think)
[14:36] <r3d2_> (open with)
[14:37] <zhane> anyone did honeyd on ubuntu before?
[14:38] <Halex> Daughain: The CD/DVD drive is faulty, it sometimes reads my audio CDs but sometimes it does not, and as for DVDs , they just won't run
[14:38] <tolpico> r3d2_, "open with " dialog doesnt contain nautilus, are we supposed to enter custom command?
[14:38] <sixtila2> what happens to ubuntu support after 2011
[14:39] <BinaryMan> awesome
[14:39] <Daughain> Halex; I can't help with that.
[14:39] <BinaryMan> so, i wake up feeling like death
[14:40] <BinaryMan> and apparently my girlfriend woke up all vomity and even more deathly than myself.
[14:40] <BinaryMan> awesome christmas
[14:40] <zhane> anyone playwith honeyd before?
[14:41] <sixtila2> doughain can i check if a downloaded iso is ok, from within ubuntu
[14:41] <om26er> !md5 | sixtila2
[14:41] <markinhos> pessoal
[14:42] <RainyLithuanian> I seriously need to recover pc for work
[14:42] <RainyLithuanian> what to do after crash during update?
[14:42] <Daughain> Ok, time to reinstall again. Later kidz.
[14:43] <farhad> hello! i have installed ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix on my eee. i would like to know if there is a gui that automount a nfs share if i connect to a specific net (e.g. my home wlan).
[14:43] <haresh> how guys any one can help me
[14:43] <IdleOne> RainyLithuanian: try sudo apt-get install -f
[14:43] <RainyLithuanian> ty
[14:43] <andi_> !automount
[14:43] <farhad> i wrote to forum but nobody still answered me
[14:44] <andi_> guys, how to auto mount ntfs partitions during start up? or boot
[14:44] <tolpico> anders__, add them in fstab,
[14:45] <Trox> hello
[14:45] <markinhos> oi ubunteiros
[14:45] <Trox> theres this gui that informs about new updates that comes with a fresh install of ubuntu
[14:45] <Trox> whats it called ?
[14:45] <r3d2_> Andi, you'll need to hit up /etc/fstab to auto mount a ntfs partition.
[14:46] <tolpico> Trox, update manager
[14:46] <r3d2_> Update Manager?
[14:46] <Trox> whats the package called tolpico ?
[14:47] <ssv1994> guys help, how to add a buddy in pidgin? Buddy is using ICQ
[14:47] <farhad> andi_,  i read it. thank you very much. but if i am not on the right net of the nfs server? what does it happen?
[14:47] <tolpico> Trox, its an app in System>administration>Update manager
[14:47] <jaypur> ssv1994, wait i'll check this for you
[14:47] <ssv1994> ok
[14:47] <r3d2_> /usr/bin/update-manager
[14:48] <Trox> im not using tolpico, thx anyways