[00:00] <doug9> How to configure Engenius 3550 to Ubuntu?
[00:00] <andai> thanks eddie
[00:00] <Jordan_U> I am getting an odd problem that seems to only occur when using USB devices that transfer "signifigant" amounts of data, i.e. drives and a USB 3G dongle and likely anything other than a simple keyboard and mouse. The problem is the my system load increases drastically untill I eventually need to reboot. How can I check if this is a hardware issue as it seems to be?
[00:02] <phoenixsampras> how to count the amount of files on a directory?
[00:02] <raido> Jordan_U: It might be interesting to boot a live CD and try to get the same result
[00:03] <dejan_> hi, how to acces packet manager synaptic?
[00:03] <raido> Jordan_U: You cole use 2-3 differnt versions and kernel versions to see if they all do it.
[00:03] <alphonso> does anyone have any recommendations on the cleanest way to run a command (as root) at startup?  ubuntu 10.10
[00:03] <Polah> Dejan_: You mean Synaptic Package Manager. Also, System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[00:03] <Ben64> phoenixsampras: find | wc -l
[00:03] <raido> phoenixsampras: ls -l | wc -l
[00:03] <dejan_> yes
[00:03] <Jordan_U> raido: I have and they all do. I'll try with a LiveCD.
[00:03] <dejan_> thak you
[00:03] <phoenixsampras> raido:  Ben64 thank you gurus
[00:04] <Ben64> phoenixsampras: mine counts recursively, and includes directories
[00:04] <lighta> alphonso, make a bash file ?
[00:04] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: write a script, put it in /etc/rc.local
[00:04] <alphonso> lighta: no - just want to run /opt/lampp/lampp start to start my dev lampp environment
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: Id say you have some faulty hardware if you get the same on the live CDS too.
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: Is this s desktop?
[00:05] <dejan_> I installed apache 2.2 but i am not sure how some guy told me from terminal now i want to delete it and install it through packet manager what should i do ?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> raido: Yes.
[00:05] <maxb> My Firefox top-right search box seems to have been forcibly changed from Google to Ask.com with the latest update ?!  Is this known to happen?
[00:05] <raido> Jordan_U: You could try getting an ad in card to slove it
[00:05] <lighta> hmm if is just lap you want to start automatically you can put in in init.d no ? no script to write
[00:06] <dejan_> can anyoe guide me to remove and reinstall apache?
[00:06] <Eighteens> i just installed sendmail, and it's working, I actually got the mail in my inbox, however it took the form like 2 minutes before the page refreshes, and gives confirmation that the mail was sent using the mailform, doesn anyone have a solution as to why sendmail is going so slow
[00:06] <dejan_> it appears installed on Synaptic Package Manager but I installed it through terminal I want to reinstall it through SYPM
[00:06] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: forgive my noob-ness - but my rc.local file contains logic (a do start statement) do i put the command before that logic?
[00:07] <dejan_> i just installed ubuntu
[00:07] <phoenixsampras> gratz and rocks
[00:07] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: what does it have in there? by default it should just have comments and an exit statement
[00:07] <Ben64> dejan_: why would you not want to use the one from synaptic?
[00:08] <raido> dejan_: they use the same backend, if SPM shows it installed then your good to go
[00:08] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: either way it doesn't matter where you put it in rc.local as long as it's before the exit statement.
[00:08] <Ben64> oh i read that wrong
[00:08] <dejan_> it appears i have installed (in Synaptic) : Apache2, Apache 2.2-bin, Apache 2.2-common,  Apache mpm-worker
[00:08] <foureight84> hey guys
[00:08] <dejan_> I select all and complete removal or?
[00:08] <dejan_> I want to delete them
[00:08] <foureight84> do you know how one would go about accessing a cellular carrier's wap website?
[00:08] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: looks like a do start block with an if/fi condition followed by a case statement with two cases
[00:08] <dejan_> and then install them through Synaptic
[00:08] <raido> dejan_: no. its pointless, youve already installed it
[00:08] <dejan_> i have instaleld them from terminal somehow one guy told me
[00:09] <dejan_> but
[00:09] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: i didn't alter this - not sure why it doesn't look like the default
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: this isn't a machine you installed/set up?
[00:09] <dejan_> why are so many apache2 apache 2.2 apache 2.2-bin -comon -worker?
[00:09] <dejan_> what are they all ? :S
[00:09] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: yes, i set it up
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> dejan_: big packages come in separate pieces
[00:09] <rusopro> hello
[00:09] <dejan_> to remove apache 2.2 i have to remove completely all or?
[00:09] <dejan_> so
[00:09] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: would you mind pasting it somewhere?
[00:09] <dejan_> :S
[00:09] <dejan_> i am not sure iff I have isntalled right
[00:10] <dejan_> dont wat my server to be hacked :S
[00:10] <raido> dejan_: Its fine.
[00:10] <dejan_> so re these normal and complete all packages for apache 2.2?
[00:10] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: but either way-- rc.local is just the last thing executed when you boot up.
[00:10] <dejan_> Apache2, Apache 2.2-bin, Apache 2.2-common,  Apache mpm-worker
[00:10] <Ben64> dejan_: using the terminal to install stuff is the same as synaptic
[00:10] <dejan_> apache2-utils
[00:10] <dejan_> ok then
[00:11] <rusopro> hello
[00:11] <dejan_> Ben64: can I use terminal to install stuff in a bad way?
[00:11] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: sending you the file
[00:12] <Ben64> dejan_: synaptic is just a front end for apt-get, if you used apt-get to install in on the terminal, it works the exact same way
[00:13] <inside-out-bunny> alphonso: just pastebin it somewhere
[00:13] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: paste it in chat?
[00:13] <Midler> HI
[00:13] <Midler> I have a question
[00:13] <Ben64> alphonso: pastebin.com
[00:13] <inside-out-bunny> http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[00:14] <Midler> the thing is, iam gonna have a computer that runs different games by different logins
[00:14] <Eighteens> is postfix faster than sendmail, anyone?
[00:14] <Midler> example warsow for the user warsow
[00:14] <inside-out-bunny> Eighteens: doesn't matter unless you're sending millions of msg's per sec
[00:14] <Midler> is there anyone that can help me with the logout when exiting the program
[00:14] <inside-out-bunny> Midler: why?
[00:14] <Midler> and should i use gnome sessions
[00:15] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: http://pastebin.com/J9QCzpZ9
[00:15] <Midler> inside-out-bunny: its meant to be a testing pc
[00:15] <Midler> inside-out-bunny: they will be able to play games and only games
[00:15] <Eighteens> inside-out-bunny, for some reason a mail form i use takes about 2 minutes before confirmation is given that the mail was sent, and the same mailform was used on another server, and it was really fast, just wondering what the delay is
[00:15] <Midler> user warsow -> login -> play warsow -> exit warsow [logout user warsow]
[00:16] <alphonso> ben64: thanks
[00:16] <inside-out-bunny> Eighteens: that's not a performance issue.  both sendmail and postfix are capable of sending/spamming millions per second
[00:17] <dejan_> can someone guide me to install php o ubuntu apache
[00:17] <dejan_> i just installed ubuntu for first time im using linux
[00:17] <dejan_> i must install apache-prefork-dev?
[00:17] <inside-out-bunny> Midler: perhaps put 'exec /path/to/warsow' in their .xsession?
[00:17] <alphonso> dejan: you can use xampp
[00:17] <alphonso> dejan: go to apachefriends.org
[00:17] <dejan_> alphonso:  no no i ont want xamp
[00:17] <Midler> hmm, thanks i guess
[00:17] <dejan_> no o..
[00:17] <dejan_> :S
[00:17] <Midler> i will look it up
[00:18] <dejan_> i have apache
[00:18] <dejan_> now i must install prefork-dev?
[00:18] <alphonso> dejan: what do you want to do?
[00:18] <dejan_> or o
[00:18] <cronus_> dejan_, try sudo tasksel and select LAMP server
[00:18] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <dejan_> install php
[00:18] <dejan_> i have apache
[00:18] <rooferdave> take a look can u help me with this error im compiling a kernel and get this at the end just before making modules, ....http://pastebin.com/FTfHhJQY
[00:18] <dejan_> tell me do i need this apache2-prefork-dev?
[00:19] <alphonso> dejan: php interpreter is installed automatically w/ a lampp stack if you don't want to use xampp, there are others you can try
[00:19] <dejan_> no no lamp xamp pls..
[00:19] <dejan_> lol..
[00:19] <soreau> why is it that totem even offers to search for plugins/codecs for dvd's? It's always going to fail so why does it even try
[00:19] <dejan_> i know how to install phpsql i am not new
[00:19] <dejan_> i just am new to ubuntu..
[00:19] <KM0201> soreau: install DVD codecs, and it won't do it anymore
[00:20] <dejan_> tell me I have apache 2.2 do i need apache2-prefork-dev to install php?
[00:20] <soreau> KM0201: Right, but it doesn't tell you to do that. It just says -failed- and looks poor doing it
[00:20] <dejan_> because it says : This should only be used when you absolutely *must* support a non-threaded
[00:20] <dejan_> environment (for PHP, for example).
[00:21] <KM0201> soreau: dunno.. i usually just install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it all works out.
[00:21] <rnigam> People trying to install openmp on Maverick. Can't remember the package name. Any suggestions? Already tried 'apt-get install libgomp'
[00:22] <alphonso> inside-out-bunny: did you get that paste? http://pastebin.com/J9QCzpZ9
[00:23] <alphonso> dejan: did you get an answer to your php question?
[00:23] <tripelbb> hello.actionparsnip -- the phone I was having trouble with wont get recognized in Windows either. It says, reconnect and if that doesnt work, replace the device. (I changed the USB port and the connector cable). I am now still in Windows. Any suggestions?
[00:24] <tripelbb> How can I ask when ActionParsnip last spoke in this channel?
[00:25] <Polah> Tripelbb: Scroll up
[00:25] <induz> hello
[00:25] <induz> how can I setup Outlook on wine, its not getting mail server??
[00:26] <induz> gmail server setting fails on wine
[00:26] <induz> anyone uses wine here??
[00:26] <bastidrazor>   induz then use evolution that does fine with gmail
[00:26] <aeon-ltd> induz: better off asking in #wine
[00:27] <tripelbb> Pola, I just joined. Backscroll is 3 minutes.
[00:27] <tripelbb> pola, another server I frequestn can do it with !seen nickname
[00:28] <arand> tripelbb: 75min
[00:28] <induz> what should be the incoming mail server for gmail??
[00:29] <tripelbb> arand thanks.
[00:29] <pkh> is it possible to force an application to only see a given network interface (e.g. tun0)
[00:29] <tripelbb> -- the phone I was having trouble with (yesterday in Ubuntu and in #ubuntu) wont get recognized in Windows either. It says, reconnect and if that doesnt work, replace the device. (I changed the USB port and the connector cable). I am now still in Windows. Any suggestions?
[00:30] <bastidrazor> !gmail | induz
[00:30] <bastidrazor> induz: the same settigns can be used in any email client.
[00:30] <alphonso> test
[00:31] <tripelbb> induz: did you try pop.gmail.com  (I can look it up)
[00:31] <_eclark> Are there any ubuntu amazon ami's for Cluster Computer nodes ?
[00:32] <induz> what should be smpt server port
[00:32] <induz> yes i have tried pop the gmai'
[00:32] <induz>  as 993 is port of imapi what should be outgoing port??
[00:33] <tripelbb> induz http://www.emailaddressmanager.com/tips/mail-settings.html
[00:33] <AnubArack> so I used this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1O1R2-rdEU to change my login screen theme ... now how do i stop the theme chooser from appearing every time  I boot ?
[00:34] <alphonso> anyone know how to request a voice in another channel?
[00:34] <peugi> anyone using pinax blog app?
[00:34] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:34] <itaylor57> KM0201: I tried to tell them at work that I was "allergic" to Microsoft products, so I needed to use open source, didn't work LOL
[00:34] <KM0201> itaylor57: lol.. well, you get an A+ for trying
[00:35] <alphonso> itaylor57: i'm going to try that at my work
[00:35] <tripelbb> induz Google Gmail Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP): smtp.gmail.com The Gmail SMTP server requires authentication (use the same settings as for the incoming mail server) The Google Gmail SMTP Server requires an encrypted connection (SSL) on port 465.
[00:35] <induz> ok so 993 and 465
[00:35] <tripelbb> induz, is that right?
[00:36]  * tripelbb must change clients
[00:36] <smart> i don't know
[00:36] <induz> yes
[00:36] <smart> whois
[00:37] <induz> yes 993 for incoming and 465 for outoing
[00:38] <andrew_46> induz: Which email client are you using?
[00:38] <induz> gmail
[00:38] <induz> and trying to setup otlook
[00:38] <induz> outlook2007
[00:38] <induz> with wine
[00:40] <bousselham_> Hi
[00:40] <induz> wine and outlook 2007 have some problem
[00:41] <induz> or I didt get it right?/
[00:41] <bousselham_> hi
[00:41] <induz> does anyone here use wine and outlook??
[00:41] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:42] <Elitestatus> need some help with a problem :(
[00:42] <drc> induz: you've been having problems with gmail & imap for day, with every email client one can suggest.  I'd say it pretty sure it's you.
[00:42] <bousselham_> i use wine but i never try to install msoffice before
[00:42] <Elitestatus> i've still got the fixed channel -1 problem and the ignore commands works but when attempting the fake auth it just doesnt work
[00:42] <induz> i was having no problem with ThunderBird but i wanted the look of outlook on it and i got screwed
[00:42] <bousselham_> how know programming rpc with c
[00:43] <induz> now outlook is not working on my wine
[00:43] <rww> wine :(
[00:43] <Elitestatus> anyone?
[00:43] <drc> induz: still you
[00:43] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:43]  * drc is tired of whiners and losers
[00:43] <induz> drc, it was working fine on TB
[00:44] <skullboy> drv | !lang
[00:44] <skullboy> drc | !lang
[00:44] <Elitestatus> can anyone help me with my problem?
[00:44] <skullboy> drc | !language
[00:44] <Polah> Elitestatus: what is your problem with?
[00:44] <Elitestatus> i've still got the fixed channel -1 problem and the ignore commands works but when attempting the fake auth it just doesnt work
[00:44] <xeon> soy novato en ubuntu pero mol
[00:44] <xeon> aa
[00:45] <xrdodrx> !es | xeon
[00:45] <Polah> Elitestatus: With what? I don't know what you're talking about...
[00:45] <xeon> alone girl in tha home
[00:45] <itaylor57> KM0201: can't wait my birthday is in april and I get to upgrade to new version, best bday ever
[00:45] <rusopro> hello
[00:45] <KM0201> itaylor57: new version of what?
[00:45] <Polah> itaylor57: Natty comes out in April?
[00:45] <Elitestatus> when i try to fix to an ap i get fixed channel mode: -1
[00:45] <KM0201> oh wait, duh
[00:45] <KM0201> lol
[00:45] <Elitestatus> which makes the fakeauth command not work
[00:46] <xeon> cam
[00:46] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:46] <KM0201> Polah: yes... 11.04 (2011, 4th month)
[00:46] <xrdodrx> itaylor57, the gift that keeps on giving :D (ubuntu usually has a release in April)
[00:46] <Polah> Neato
[00:46] <zach> ubottu, que necisitas?
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> i have a 40 Gb HDD i cant see in places. i tried reformatting it but i still dont see it
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[00:46] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:46] <KM0201> Polah: thats how all the ubuntu version numbers are used... ubuntu 6.06 (2006, 6th month) an so forth
[00:46] <speedrunnerG55> i saw it in disc utility thats how i reformoted it
[00:46] <Elitestatus> so i get agnored :(
[00:47] <Polah> Speedrunnerg55: What do you mean you can't see them?
[00:47] <Cody3290> can ubuntu run .rpm files?
[00:47] <pkh> speedrunnerG55, go and buy yourself a new disk
[00:47] <KM0201> !rpm | Cody3290
[00:47] <Polah> KM0201: Oh, I didn't know that. I thought it was just X.04 and X.10 just as a trend
[00:47] <KM0201> Cody3290: what are you trying to install from RPM?
[00:47] <Cody3290> Java
[00:47] <KM0201> Polah: nope, there's a method to the madness
[00:47] <Polah> KM0201: The more you know (:
[00:47] <Cody3290> I would use the second one then, right?
[00:47] <KM0201> Cody3290: you don't need an RPM to install java, stop making it more difficult than it needs to be
[00:47] <Cody3290> http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com
[00:48] <Cody3290> I only was asking if I should use the first or second. thank you
[00:48] <KM0201> !java | Cody3290
[00:48] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:48] <Cody3290> ty
[00:48] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:48] <Elitestatus> Dont you just love it when people ignore you.....
[00:48] <skullboy> no
[00:49] <Polah> Elite: I can't help you and evidently no one else can just now. Be patient and someone may appear that can. If we could we would but we can't so we won't
[00:49] <Elitestatus> ok, i thought you guys had a fix for the fixed channel: -1 thing
[00:50] <skullboy> where is the tty7 config
[00:50] <Polah> Elitestatus: If I did I would tell you, but frankly I've no idea what you're on about
[00:50] <Polah> !repeat | skullboy
[00:50] <wxf> hello,everyone
[00:51] <skullboy> hi
[00:51] <skullboy> how r u
[00:51] <alphonso> does anyone know how to unlock a keyring via the command line?
[00:51] <aroman> hi, how can I set docky to start on login? gconf?
[00:51] <Cody3290> Am I correct in assuming that minecraft cannot work without sun JVM?
[00:51] <Elitestatus> Polah: also when scanning for networks for does it show stations not assoiated, i.e its showwing the people, just not what router there connected to
[00:51] <itaylor57> Cody3290: that would be correct
[00:53] <Polah> Cody3290: You can use OpenJDK as well
[00:54] <rww> Cody3290: It works with OpenJDK. In my experience, it works a lot better in Sun Java.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> aroman: docky has the option to run on startup in its preferences
[00:54] <alphonso> anyone know how to unlock a keyring from the command line?
[00:54] <Polah> rww: I've not experienced any major problems. Sometimes a key will continue to register as being pressed but apart from that it runs fine
[00:55] <itaylor57> well I stand corrected
[00:55] <tripelbb> I have a phone with a usb cable. last night it gave errors and would not connect. today I tried it in windows, XP said unplug and try again or else replace device. Any suggestions? (I'm still in WIndows. any suggestions before I return to ubuntu that is.)
[00:55] <xrdodrx> tripelbb, It's the phone, most likely.
[00:56] <dejan_> how i edit files with root privileges?
[00:56] <dejan_> text file i need to edit it
[00:56] <alexanderbandukw> anyone know a good server app for managing a todolist
[00:56] <xrdodrx> dejan_, gksu gedit /path/to/file
[00:57] <xrdodrx> dejan_, or sudo nano if you so choose :)
[00:57] <dejan_> xrdodrx: thaks but gksu and gksudo is same?
[00:57] <xrdodrx> dejan_, yes
[00:57] <dejan_> i broke my apache 2.2 somehow :S
[00:57] <dejan_> i have edit apache2.conf to add soe lies the i believe i delete them
[00:58] <dejan_> and saved
[00:58] <dejan_> and now i cant start it :S
[00:58] <dejan_> can you help?
[00:58] <Ycarene> How hard is it to transition to ossv4 from pulse/alsa in maveric?
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah in places
[00:58] <xrdodrx> dejan_, sorry, I don't know anything about apache. Try asking here or #apache
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah?
[00:58] <speedrunnerG55> Polah!
[00:58] <tomasm-> is there a way to filter software on the software center so i see only whats installed in a certain category (ie games installed)? fedora's software manager is so easy =(
[00:59] <dejan_> what is these lines? are they normal for apache2.conf i default ubutu istallation of apache2.2 ? #
[00:59] <dejan_> User apache
[00:59] <dejan_> Group apache
[00:59] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, the software center is meant to be simple :) if you want more ways to sort and manage packages, try using synaptic
[00:59] <dejan_> to completely remove it and install it i remove everything from synaptic that has apache name? :S
[00:59] <dejan_> and then what to install? :S
[01:00] <dejan_> pls
[01:00] <dejan_> apache 2.2
[01:00] <speedrunnerG55> Polah!!!!!!!!!1
[01:00] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:00] <speedrunnerG55> where are you!!
[01:00] <tomasm-> xrdodrx, thanks
[01:00] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, no problem :D
[01:00] <xrdodrx> !attitude | speedrunnerG55
[01:01] <xrdodrx> He may have stepped out for a bit :)
[01:01] <tomasm-> whats this multiverse/universe thing?
[01:01] <xrdodrx> tomasm-, extra software packages for Ubuntu not officially supported by Canonical
[01:01] <tomasm-> whats the difference between multiverse and universe?
[01:02] <hanif> hi
[01:02] <xrdodrx> Multiverse is non-free software and universe is free software (where free is free as in freedom)
[01:03] <Krycek> Oo
[01:04] <hodd> I notice the keyboard speed is slower on linux
[01:04] <hodd> on windows is faster
[01:04] <xrdodrx> hodd, the keyboard "speed"?
[01:04] <hodd> xrdodrx: yes
[01:05] <xrdodrx> hodd, elaborate
[01:07] <Cody3290> how do I run a .jar on ubuntu?
[01:07] <[segfault]> hodd: perhaps you mean the repeat rate and delay?  you can change these under System/Preferences/Keyboard.
[01:07] <surreal7z> hodd, you are saying that you can type paster in windows than in ubuntu?... it simply can't be true.
[01:07] <surreal7z> faster*
[01:08] <Jerkman> anyone know of a good multiplayer console rpg/dungeon game
[01:08] <dejan_> can you help me little i am trying to remove completely and install again apache 2.2
[01:08] <dejan_> what packages i remove?
[01:08] <hoddd> so ya, anyone notice the slower keyboard response in linux?
[01:08] <Polah> dejan_: sudo apt-get remove apache
[01:09] <Polah> It will remove apache and sudo apt-get autoremove after will remove all it's dependencies
[01:09] <dejan_> hoddd check settings i think when you move mouse keyboard is locked check in setting tht optionn
[01:09] <Joi_> testes
[01:09] <Polah> sudo apt-get remove -purge apache will remove configuration for it as well, I believe
[01:09] <patricklandry2> can anyone here help find the best package and frontend for connecting my windows mobile device
[01:09] <dejan_> so how i remove apache 2.2 compeltely pls
[01:10] <dejan_> and then istall it again completely
[01:10] <dejan_> :S
[01:10] <hoddd> no no its just in general
[01:10] <hoddd> if you type fast in linux its not the same as in windows
[01:10] <hoddd> especially if you use cpas lock
[01:10] <hoddd> caps
[01:10] <dejan_> its something with your pc
[01:10] <dejan_> liux is way faster
[01:11] <hoddd> do you know what im talking about dajhorn
[01:11] <dejan_> so i removed apache with sudo
[01:11] <dejan_> now i reinstall pc?
[01:11] <xptical> Does anyone know what part of Compiz breaks the username/logoff button area?
[01:11] <dejan_> restart *
[01:11] <hwilde> how to launch System -> Applications -> Software Sources from the command line ?
[01:11] <dejan_> then install apache or?
[01:11] <tomasm-> when i start firefox, the window is totally white, though when i click, it responds...any idea whats wrong?
[01:11] <dejan_> hoddd: linux in general is waaaaaaay faster then win
[01:11] <dejan_> hoddd: do you made swap file?
[01:12] <KM0201> hwilde: software sources is a GUI tool, why don't you just edit your source list from command line, either w/ gedit, or nano, or whatever?
[01:12] <dejan_> how i istall apache 2.2 now :S
[01:12] <hoddd> ya the operating system is fast
[01:12] <dejan_> should i restart pc because i removed apahe
[01:12] <hoddd> but the keyboard typing has a delay
[01:12] <hwilde> KM0201, becaues I want it to select the fast one and I don't know the name.
[01:12] <bastidrazor> hwilde: gksudo software-center
[01:12] <KM0201> hwilde: well do you have software sources in system/admin?
[01:12] <surreal7z> hoddd, type something in windows.... you need 10 sec do type that.... than type that in ubuntu... it will still be 10 seconds
[01:12] <bastidrazor> hwilde: err..
[01:13] <yenn_2001> hola
[01:13] <m4v>  /wi yenn_2001
[01:13]  * thekkid fail
[01:13] <dejan_> pls how can I install apache 2.2 on ubuntu ?
[01:13] <bastidrazor> hwilde: gksudo software-properties-gtk
[01:14] <hwilde> bastidrazor, ahh yes
[01:14] <KM0201> bastidrazor: or, he can just add software sources to his admin menu... don't see any real reason to start that from command line
[01:14] <Leopsx> boa Noite..........
[01:14] <yenn_2001> alguien en espanol
[01:14] <hwilde> KM0201, you are not helping so just move on
[01:14] <KM0201> hwilde: you're not making sense..
[01:14] <hwilde> don't harass the person who actually gave me the right answer.
[01:14] <bastidrazor> KM0201: yes he could, but his questino was how to run from command line.
[01:14] <dejan_> anyone how to install apache 2.2 ?
[01:14] <hoddd> ... surreal7z not really. For example when I use caps lock instead of shift to start out a sentance with a capital letter, it messes up on linux
[01:15] <hoddd> try it
[01:15] <alphur> what date does karmic reach eol?
[01:15] <KM0201> bastidrazor: nothing like trying to dig a hole with a nail file.. :)
[01:15] <fez> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024 count=1000000 && sudo mkswap /swapfile && sudo echo "/swapfile none swap sw 0 0" >> /etc/fstab && swapon /swapfile
[01:15] <alphur> exact date, number and month
[01:16] <yenn2001> guien me puede ayudar
[01:16] <KM0201> !eol | alphonso
[01:16] <KM0201> alphur: see above
[01:16] <dejan_> i need apache 2.2 php 5 ad mysql
[01:16] <dejan_> anyone to help me?
[01:16] <hwilde> KM0201, change your tab complete to Last Spoke instead of alphabetical.
[01:16] <KM0201> hwilde: fix your software problem, let me worry about my chat client
[01:17] <alphur> so april what?
[01:17] <hwilde> KM0201, you think you are so smart but you can't even tab complete the right person
[01:17] <KM0201> alphur: usually the middle of the month.
[01:17] <hunterm> dear #ubuntu
[01:17] <hunterm> the link to the natty beta 1 is broken
[01:18] <bastidrazor> hunterm: #ubuntu+1 may be able to help
[01:18] <KM0201> hwilde: lol, ok man.. like i said, i've been here far longer, and probably contributed more to this channel than you will in your life, so move alone
[01:18] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:18] <hunterm> ah, thankyou
[01:18] <KM0201> hwilde: and who said i couldn't configure it?...
[01:18] <Leopsx> oi
[01:18] <[segfault]> !es | yenn2001
[01:18] <Logan_> !code | nodelover
[01:19] <Leopsx> oi
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <Leopsx> oi
[01:19] <nodelover> how to make  textmate like editor in ubuntu?
[01:19] <BaKeR> Do i have to apply ubuntu system updates?
[01:20] <Blue1> i can't get to my inbox in thunderbird.  it's there but I can't access it.
[01:20] <KM0201> BaKeR: no... just hit install, an it will do its thing
[01:20] <alphonso> ubotto: thanks, why are you telling me about end of life?
[01:20] <Blue1> messages come in and go into the inbox, it just won't let me display it.
[01:20] <hwilde> alphonso, you can just ignore that, KM0201 doesn't know how to tab complete :)
[01:20] <BaKeR> yeah cause it runs smoother for me without those updates
[01:20] <KM0201> alphonso: you can ignore hwilde, he doesn't know... anything.
[01:21] <Jerkman> lol km0201
[01:21] <BaKeR> KM0201: do i have to turn it off/ will it autmaticaly  update?
[01:21] <Logan_> !what | alphonso
[01:21] <alphonso> lol
[01:21] <BaKeR> i already did a clean install
[01:22] <alphonso> ok, who is not a bot here?
[01:22] <KM0201> BaKeR: you'll get a window "update manager" that pops up (or you can run it from system/admin)... it will check for updates, then just click install, and it will install and apply them
[01:22] <xrdodrx> alphonso, everyone except floodbot and ubottu we hope :P
[01:22] <hwilde> BaKeR, system -> admin -> update manager -> settings button at the bottom
[01:23] <alphonso> lol... i'm trying to unlock a password remotely from the command line.  whenever i restart my server, i can't connect via vino until the default password is unlocked
[01:23] <BaKeR> What im trying to say is i already had Ubuntu 10.10 installed with the sytem updates
[01:23] <patricklandry2> can anyone here help me with getting the right package and frontend to connect my windows mobile device?
[01:23] <BaKeR> but it runs smother without it the system updates
[01:23] <Logan_> !windows mobile | patricklandry2
[01:23] <BaKeR> so i did a clean install without the updates
[01:24] <hwilde> BaKeR, go where I just said in the settings and you can configure auto updating
[01:24] <KM0201> BaKeR: ok, so install updates
[01:24] <rcmaehl> Okay
[01:24] <patricklandry2> thank you
[01:24] <BaKeR> and woundering if i have to update
[01:24] <rcmaehl> MY pc doesn't seem to want to start gdm on start up however i don't know how to fix this. How do I?
[01:24] <BaKeR> if i install the updates it will run slower
[01:24] <BaKeR> like login in
[01:24] <di_giorgio> Mp3player [Capital Inicial - Vivendo e Aprendendo] CeBoLiNhA 2011
[01:25] <KM0201> BaKeR: then the better solution is to investigate why that is happening, rather than not updating... what are your system specs
[01:25] <rcmaehl> BaKeR: Yep
[01:25] <Logan_> di_giorgio: please turn that off
[01:25] <Rexodus> BaKeR: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade does the job.
[01:25] <dejan_> i deleted apache2
[01:25] <dejan_> and reinstalled
[01:25] <BaKeR> why just not aply the updates
[01:25] <dejan_> and now is not working
[01:25] <dejan_> any idea?
[01:26] <BaKeR> not much need for security
[01:26] <Logan_> !enter | dejan_
[01:26] <dejan_> they kicked me from httpd because there are ome 'people'..
[01:26] <KM0201> BaKeR: you're not making sense, first you ask how to update, then you say you don't want to update because it makes your machine slower, then you say why not just apply the updates.. what exactly is the issue, and what are you tyring to do?
[01:26] <BaKeR> no you got me all worng
[01:26] <BaKeR> i said do i have to update?
[01:26] <overclucker> BaKeR: you don't have to update your system if you don't want to
[01:27] <KM0201> BaKeR: then no, you don't have to update if you don't want to.
[01:27] <overclucker> BaKeR: how secure your system is, is up to you
[01:27] <alphonso> anyone here running a vnc server?
[01:27] <KM0201> BaKeR: however, often time updates are security updates..
[01:27] <PhoenixAndThor> Hello everyone
[01:27] <xrdodrx> !wfm
[01:27] <jack_^> hi
[01:27] <dejan_> the thing ios this
[01:27] <dejan_> i did something to 'own' ww folder
[01:27] <dejan_> because i couldnt opy files there
[01:28] <BaKeR> yeah but serously has anyone efer got a virus or hacked on ubuntu?
[01:28] <dejan_> so i thik that is the problem pls help i am new
[01:28] <dejan_> to ubuntu
[01:28] <rcmaehl> BaKeR: yes
[01:28] <KM0201> BaKeR: would you like to be the first?
[01:28] <BaKeR> maybe get a ip firewall
[01:28] <BaKeR> blocker
[01:28] <bastidrazor> dejan_: can you try to explain your situation on a single line.. trying to track multiple lined posts are difficult
[01:28] <xrdodrx> BaKeR, has anyone ever hacked on Ubuntu? Every day! :D It's one of the main features of a free OS :)
[01:28] <dejan_> ok
[01:28] <KM0201> BaKeR: oh yeah, that will stop a determined attacker for like 5sec
[01:28] <kp> Does anyone if it a workstation install can be changed to a server install remotely?
[01:28] <BaKeR> hack but not hack your system
[01:28] <dejan_> bastidrazor: if you read what i am sayig you would understand..
[01:28] <dejan_> ffs
[01:28] <jack_^> people get hacked all the times. why do they think security patches are released?
[01:29] <Logan_> !ffs | dejan_
[01:29] <PhoenixAndThor> Anyone have any experience with wmii, specifically how to make a window automatically appear on any tag I create? (omnipressent, on all 'desktops')
[01:29] <KM0201> jack_: cuz security administrators need a job!  duh
[01:29] <jack_^> uh huh
[01:29] <bastidrazor> dejan_: ffs.. i am reading it. you are borking things then rambling about it. massive amounts of posts do not help.
[01:29] <Paolo999> !hello
[01:29] <dejan_> i removed completely apache 2.2 (i believe) and i install it through synaptic, now i cant open localhost
[01:29] <jack_^> ffs eh?
[01:29] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! I'm trying to install Matlab on Ubuntu 10.10. The installer won't load. Does anyone have experience with this?
[01:29] <Paolo999> !list
[01:29] <KM0201> Paolo999: they  killed !hello for some reason
[01:29] <KM0201> lol
[01:29] <jack_^> dejan_, is it running?
[01:29] <BaKeR> well im gonna take the chance intell 11.04 comes out
[01:30] <xrdodrx> Paolo999, you can see ubottu 's factoids by sending it a message :)
[01:30] <dejan_> i did something some guy told me to 'own' www folder coz i couldt cipy files there maybe this is problem? also i am not sure i delted config files coz i edit them and fu**ed up last apache
[01:30] <rcmaehl> SO yeahj
[01:30] <dejan_> jack_^: i type localhost othing
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, chown?
[01:30] <rcmaehl> ANy ideas for my problem
[01:30] <dejan_> i type start from sudo nothing it says this
[01:30] <dejan_> chown yes
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, type this:   netstat -tunap | grep 80
[01:30] <BaKeR> Im shure 90% that im not going to get hacked
[01:30] <rcmaehl> adding GDM to stat a boot
[01:30] <jack_^> dejan_, give me output
[01:30] <rcmaehl> so I can have A GUI at boot
[01:30] <rcmaehl> and not have to go to tty1 login then launch teh gui insecurely as root
[01:30] <Rexodus> BaKeR: stop talking crap.
[01:31] <jack_^> BaKeR, does that mean 1 in every 10 attempts will succeed ?
[01:31] <BaKeR> or get a one in a billion chance of some virus comeing out and me being the first to get it
[01:31] <PhoenixAndThor> ??
[01:32] <dada> ?
[01:32] <BaKeR> well if theres any hackers here im vulneralbe :)
[01:32] <PhoenixAndThor> Okay, I'm not feeling to lucky about the whole hacking thing, so bye
[01:32] <overclucker> BaKeR: there are exploits for any system type
[01:32] <Darwin1> This is my first time using ubuntu and I am trying to install ubuntu 10.10 - I get as far as "who are you" window and the install hualts.  Where it says copying files it now says "Ready when you are".  It will not let me do anything else, the forward button is not active.  I have down loaded it twice and the same thing happens.   Any help would be great.
[01:32] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! I'm trying to install Matlab on Ubuntu 10.10. The installer won't load. Does anyone have experience with this??
[01:32] <bastidrazor> Darwin1: use all lowercase username?
[01:32] <dada> anybody know inotify?
[01:33] <Darwin1> ok will try - thanks
[01:33] <kp> anyone know how to switch from 10.10 workstation to server
[01:33] <rcmaehl> install teh image from your package manager
[01:34] <rcmaehl> or sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[01:34] <kp> from a remote location
[01:34] <rcmaehl> ummm
[01:34] <rcmaehl> no
[01:34] <rcmaehl> idk then
[01:34] <Aginor> econdudeawesome: no, but I might be able to help you a bit anyway
[01:35] <Darwin1> bastidrazor:  Thanks very much it worked and is now finishing the install
[01:35] <Aginor> econdudeawesome: how are you running the installer and what errors are you seeing?
[01:35] <insin> can the default tk theme be changed? git gui was about bearable on window, but is eye gouging on Ubuntu :)
[01:35] <bastidrazor> Darwin1: i've seen many people get stuck at that point. you're welcome and hope you enjoy Ubuntu
[01:35] <kp> there has to be a way to do it
[01:35] <insin> s/window/windows/
[01:35] <iflema> !nox kp
[01:36] <lusmus> is linux mint from ubuntu?
[01:36] <rcmaehl> yep
[01:36] <Guest18643> anyone knows how to make my brightness control app work?
[01:36] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: is it on a laptop?
[01:36] <hwilde> !keytouch | Guest18643
[01:36] <Guest18643> i have a gateway ID49C07 laptop with intel gma HD
[01:36] <piepieburger> Hey, is this the ubuntu help channel?
[01:36] <lusmus> uh, why?
[01:36] <Logan_> piepieburger: Yes.
[01:37] <iflema> !nox | kp
[01:37] <piepieburger> ok thanks, i just installed xchat and wanted to make sure i set it up correctly
[01:37] <IsmAvatar> I know 512 MB is a little low for RAM, but is it normal for WinXP to run fairly well when Ubuntu slows to a painful crawl?
[01:37] <Guest18643> hwilde, the keyborad shortcut works
[01:37] <iflema> kp ssh and reconfig grub maybe...
[01:37] <kp> That would work if i was at the machine
[01:37] <kp> the box is about 50 miles from me
[01:37] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: if you want to only do it once you can run pkexec gnome-power-backlight-helper --set-brightness (0-7 here without the parenthesis)
[01:38] <joshdreamland1> I apt-get'd libwxbase-2.8-dev; why is setup.h missing?
[01:38] <alphonso> anyone tried gnome3 with an old ati vid card? ati x1400
[01:38] <iflema> kp ssh to reconfig /etc/default/grub and update-grub
[01:39] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, it doesnt do anything
[01:39] <rcmaehl> not 0-7 but like 5 or 4 or 1
[01:39] <Guest18643> still nope
[01:39] <rcmaehl> O_O
[01:40] <rcmaehl> what laptop brand?
[01:40] <Guest18643> gateway
[01:40] <rcmaehl> you might need a package
[01:40] <ahaziah77> real quick question, i have a friend who needs some help with her computer, might install ubuntu, it is an older xp computer with only 512mb of ram, im not for sure the other specs, but i was wondering what a good version of ubuntu for it would be, can it handle lucid?
[01:40] <skxx> ahaziah77: try xubuntu.  it's made to run well on older computers.
[01:40] <iflema> !lubuntu | ahaziah77
[01:41] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, any specifics?
[01:41] <ahaziah77> cool, so ill check out xubuntu and lubuntu
[01:41] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: I'm lookin
[01:41] <rcmaehl> g
[01:41] <Guest18643> thx
[01:41] <iflema> ahaziah77: lubuntu ;)
[01:41] <lusmus> i would rec lubuntu instead of xu
[01:41] <fisix> lolbuntu
[01:42] <rcmaehl> I wouldn't recommend kubuntu for 512mb
[01:42] <ahaziah77> k, i will have to check out lubuntu, i have heard of xubuntu but not familiar with lubuntu at al
[01:42] <fisix> what's the diff between xu and lu?
[01:42] <skxx> xu runs xfce
[01:42] <skxx> lu runs lxde
[01:43] <skxx> that's be the main difference
[01:43] <fisix> ohhh icic
[01:43] <fisix> what about ubuntu itself?
[01:43] <skxx> that'd*
[01:43] <lusmus> its gnome
[01:43] <skxx> ubuntu uses gnome standard
[01:43] <KM0201> rcmaehl: yeah, no way on KDE.. i'm not sure if gnome would even run that well on that.. that's definitely down to xfce, lxde and openbox levels.
[01:43] <lusmus> yup
[01:43] <ahaziah77> skxx, which makes me beg the question, what is the difference between xfce and lxde?
[01:44] <fisix> other than looks
[01:44] <skxx> well i've never run lxde but xfce is meant to be run on a wider variety of computers than gnome and kde
[01:44]  * iflema their all still buntu with a different frontend
[01:44] <skxx> it runs well on older computers
[01:44] <fisix> ooo
[01:44] <iceroot> ahaziah77: one is using qt, the other is using gtk
[01:44] <skxx> but you can make it looks slick if you have a better comp
[01:44] <fisix> can you strap ubuntu with kde instead of gnome?
[01:44] <KM0201> skxx: over the last couple years, xfce has become just as bloated as gnome.
[01:44] <iflema> !kubuntu
[01:44] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: gddccontrol might help
[01:44] <skxx> you can use whatever you want with vanilla gnome
[01:45] <Guest18643> rcmaehl, already have it
[01:45] <rcmaehl> hmmm
[01:45] <skxx> you just go into your package manager and install a new desktop environment, be it kde, xfce, lxde, fluxbox, openbox, blackbox, afterstep, etc etc etc
[01:46] <skxx> i'm running xubuntu now and it does pretty well
[01:46] <skxx> my printer's being a bit of a bastard right now, though.
[01:46] <rcmaehl> Guest18643: idk can't find anything else
[01:46] <Guest18643> thx anyway
[01:46] <KM0201> skxx: it runs fine, but i think the advantages that xfce had over gnome, are pretty well gone.
[01:46] <KM0201> but it's still a good GUI in my opinion
[01:46] <fisix> ohhh icic skxx
[01:47] <fisix> what's the deal with the whole x windows thing and startx? we don't need to deal with that in ubuntu?
[01:48] <My-Computer> is there a way to get the guest session prompt to show up on the login screen lucid
[01:48] <rcmaehl> My-Computer: yes
[01:48] <rcmaehl> My-Computer: in the control center you can change it to show guest on the logon screen
[01:48] <skxx> fisix: naw x starts up by default
[01:49] <shadghost> I got a error when installing using apt-get http://paste.ubuntu.com/578613/
[01:49] <rcmaehl> skxx: mine doesn't
[01:49] <skxx> fisix: you might need to tink around with your xorg configuration file depending on how ambitious you are
[01:49] <skxx> rcmaehl: are you running vanilla ubuntu
[01:49] <fisix> gotcha
[01:49] <rcmaehl> skxx: I'm running (IDK) i've installed and uninstalled like 20 different linux images and window manager
[01:49] <rcmaehl> s
[01:49] <skxx> haha
[01:49] <EvilPhoenix> how does one go about creating a .deb package so that it can be used as an installer?  and are there any GUI tools to create one?
[01:50] <rcmaehl> shxx`Currently ubuntu 10.10 desktop
[01:50] <rcmaehl> 32-bit gnome
[01:50] <skxx> i used to set mine up to boot to console cuz i felt it was more hardcore
[01:50] <skxx> but i got sick of using w3m as my browser
[01:50] <lusmus> w3m is hardcore man!
[01:51] <skxx> i lubs w3m
[01:51] <rcmaehl> skxx: w3m does get annoyinga t times but nano is awesome
[01:51] <skxx> never really used nano as a browser
[01:51] <rcmaehl> lol
[01:51] <rcmaehl> no
[01:51] <rcmaehl> nano = text editor
[01:51] <fisix> doesn't w3m fail for images?
[01:51] <fisix> and formatting?
[01:52] <rcmaehl> for console
[01:52] <skxx> that's what i thought
[01:52] <skxx> i dig vim for editing
[01:52] <lusmus> haha no images no ads xD
[01:52] <skxx> i still used gvim when i'm in x
[01:52] <fisix> but no images!!!
[01:52] <Ben64> how can i find the version of a package available on apt-get
[01:52] <rcmaehl> Better idea!
[01:53] <fisix> why would you use vim over nano?
[01:53] <rcmaehl> just wget the entire website
[01:53] <dancios> Hello i have a question is adobe flash works normally(10.04/x86/Athlon Xp) ? i have standard open drivers for radeon 9250 and youtube is black&white with deformation. if embededed it seems normal is it common problem ?
[01:53] <lusmus> haha :)
[01:53] <rcmaehl> wget -r google.com
[01:53] <skxx> cuz it's insanely slick. you get all these awesome code-highlighting options
[01:53] <rcmaehl> time remaining: calculating
[01:53] <lusmus> skxx: hi testing :D
[01:53] <skxx> and and extensible(sp) as hell
[01:53] <phoenixsampras> how to open a 7z file?
[01:54] <skxx> lusmus: see ? :)
[01:54] <rcmaehl> phoenixsampras: install p7zip
[01:54] <lusmus> skxx: haha nice :)
[01:54] <fisix> skxx, what do you mean extensibl(sp)?
[01:55] <skxx> fisix: it's insanely configurable and has a metric ass-ton of scripty addon type goodies
[01:55] <fisix> ohhh icic
[01:55] <psusi> emacs for the winz! ;)
[01:55] <skxx> oh hells no
[01:55] <skxx> lol
[01:55] <phoenixsampras> rcmaehl: thank you
[01:56] <fisix> shit i don't even have vim, hahah
[01:56] <skxx> of course the whole idea of "emacs is bloated" doesn't really apply anymore'
[01:56] <skxx> fisix: you should try it out
[01:56] <skxx> fisix: it rocks my socks off
[01:57] <skxx> fisix: it's just about the greatest thing you can use for barebones web editing... and if you code or script it's the bee's friggin knees.
[01:57] <rcmaehl> my netbook w/ ubuntu no play HD videos good it go lag lag lag meh lag derp lag brick lag. What do?
[01:57] <fisix> a bit more of a hassle to use than nano though.. but i guess there's advantage in colour schemes. but then i'd just use gedit or an IDE if i were actually coding..
[01:57]  * psusi currently has a half dozen source files, two shells, a bzr log, a bzr commit entry, and gdb open in emacs... win.
[01:57] <skxx> rcmaehl: lol
[01:57] <AnubArack> what does emerald replace?
[01:57] <skxx> ooo speaking of shells i need to reinstall zsh
[01:58] <lusmus> skxx:  is this same for all irc apps?
[01:58] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: metacity
[01:58] <psusi> hell, I've even been getting on irc in emacs lately at work
[01:58] <skxx> lusmus: for most of them, yes
[01:58] <rcmaehl> The torrent I'm torrenting only has 1 seeder what do?
[01:58] <rcmaehl> And it's 20gb
[01:58] <skxx> rcmaehl: damnit i just laughed my drink into my friggin nostril
[01:58] <AnubArack> rcmaehl, shuld i keep meta ? as I'm gettins so many mixed results ... my theme is gone for nautilus and desktop
[01:58] <AnubArack> and i'm getting pissed as hell
[01:59] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: using emerald is hard and confusing
[02:00] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: however usualy restarting nautilus by killing the process will fix the theme
[02:00] <AnubArack> a theme i use needed it but screw this theme ...
[02:00] <fisix> how do you get out of vim. escape, colon q every time? :S
[02:00] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: Windows 7 Theme?
[02:00] <lusmus> AnubArack: effects isnt good :p
[02:00] <maco> fisix: yes, that's quit. if you want to save&quit you can ZZ
[02:00] <skxx> or escape, :wq to write the file before you leave
[02:00] <fisix> ahh
[02:00] <Rexodus> AnubArack: Ever heard of making backups before messing up your system? :P
[02:01] <skxx> or escape :q! to quit without saving an edited file
[02:01] <fisix> gotcha
[02:01] <AnubArack> idk how to Rexodus
[02:01] <rcmaehl> I screw up my ubuntu system carelessly so I can fix it and learn
[02:01] <Rexodus> ;]
[02:01] <AnubArack> also i'm using a wubi 10.10
[02:01] <rcmaehl> I now know lots of shit not to do and how to fix it
[02:01] <Rexodus> rcmaehl: That's what VM's are for.
[02:02] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: lol there isn't wubi 10.10 it's most likely ubuntu 10.10
[02:02] <skxx> hell if you put /home on a separate partition you can wreck and reinstall all day long without losing anything
[02:02] <rcmaehl> Rexodus: but but but VMs can run on a netbook
[02:02] <AnubArack> well ofc it's not wubi 10.10 ... i shortend out as you all would get it anyway
[02:02] <rcmaehl> they go meh brick
[02:02] <skxx> lol
[02:02] <fisix> why do you guys use VM's anyway?
[02:02] <Rexodus> rcmaehl: Why not?
[02:02] <billybob3> hi, my computer refuses to shut down when i go control + alt+ delete or go to the panel icon then shut down?
[02:03] <skxx> just yank the cable out of the back.
[02:03] <skxx> just kidding, don't do that.
[02:03] <rcmaehl> billybob3: open terminal ctrl + alt + t
[02:03] <rcmaehl> billybob3: then run sudo shutdown -f now
[02:03] <AnubArack> so any easy backup utility for ubuntu ?
[02:03] <rcmaehl> AnubArack: sudo apt-get install backintime
[02:03] <skxx> man cp
[02:03] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: there is... i cant recall the name
[02:03] <jack_^> tar
[02:03] <Rexodus> AnubArack: dd
[02:03] <jack_^> LOLOL
[02:04] <jack_^> rsync
[02:04] <Rexodus> ;]
[02:04] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: bacula
[02:04] <billybob3> yea, i know how to shut it down, i just wish i didn't have to typ my passowrd, it's an LTSP/DHCP sevrer, coulc that have anything tot do with it?
[02:04] <AnubArack> i'll go check both out
[02:04] <fisix> questionnn, will sudo rm -rf / actually delete root? if not, what's the biggest (or most crucial) directory it can delete? if deleted, can it be easily recovered?
[02:04] <phoenixsampras> AnubArack: clonezilla
[02:04] <lusmus> rcmaehl: isnt that like the Mac version of time machine?
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, i doubt it
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, type shutdown -h now (to shutdown)
[02:04] <jack_^> billybob3, or init 6;
[02:05] <jack_^> asctually, id ont think init6 works anymore
[02:05] <skxx> fisix: rm -rf will del anything you have the priveleges to delete
[02:05] <maco> fisix: /lib and /usr/lib are probably the most destructive since then getting any /bin or /usr/bin stuff reinstalled would fail...
[02:05] <billybob3> thanks jack, bye
[02:05] <skxx> fisix: and there's no getting it back.
[02:05] <Rexodus> AnubArack: g4u
[02:05] <maco> fisix: youd have to reinstall the system to recover from removing /
[02:05] <fisix> whoa perfect! thanks guys, hahah
[02:05] <rcmaehl> Fisix I recommend you not rm -rf /
[02:05] <fisix> LOL
[02:05] <skxx> lol
[02:05] <skxx> quoted
[02:05] <Random832> supposedly deleting from / ends up spinning in /proc
[02:05] <fisix> i figured it wouldn't let me though
[02:05] <AnubArack> phoenixsampras, i should of knows there are many but witch one is better or at least easies to use ... it's my second day on linux so i'm not that savvy
[02:05] <qnix> hi.
[02:05] <skxx> no it will
[02:05] <fisix> but i dunno, has anyone tried?
[02:05] <overclucker> sudo shudown -hP now
[02:05] <skxx> you might have to sudo
[02:05] <fisix> it will?!
[02:05] <fisix> wow
[02:06] <fisix> then what happens :S?
[02:06] <fisix> you can't do anything?
[02:06] <maco> fisix: rm has been patched though
[02:06] <jack_^> fisix, put home on a seperate partition and then blow everything up except home. you can just re-install ubuntu and most of your stuff well be fine as it gets saved to home
[02:06] <skxx> then, as rcmaehl would say "brick"
[02:06] <jack_^> fisix, it will die
[02:06] <qnix> I'm experiencing a problem... a table of my database disapear.
[02:06] <rcmaehl> fisix: yeah I've emailed the ubuntu website about it and they still haven't got back to me
[02:06] <AnubArack> something as close to time machine or windows restore would be great
[02:06] <maco> fisix: by default if you try it on / itll warn you. the manpage will explain how to make it "allowed" to do that
[02:06] <jack_^> maco, i want to test that but....
[02:06] <fisix> ohhhh icic
[02:06] <maco> jack_^: just read the manpage
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: itll explain what i'm referring to
[02:07] <fisix> so you could just toss it in a shellscript and own someone?
[02:07] <jack_^> maco, yeah but what if its wrong D: heh
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: it's right. ive seen the warning ;-)
[02:07] <fisix> assuming they sudo pass
[02:07] <jack_^> fisix, they're are much more exciting ways to own someone :D
[02:07] <overclucker> maco: i dont think coreutils was compiled wit hthat warning on ubuntu
[02:07] <fisix> o rly :o
[02:07] <jack_^> maco, is that upstream?
[02:07] <fisix> i'd like to know... hahah
[02:07] <skxx> jack_^: ooo like a logic bomb
[02:07] <maco> jack_^: dunno
[02:07] <maco> overclucker: it is
[02:07] <rcmaehl> sudo rm -rf /bin/rm
[02:07] <maco> overclucker: someone put the bad command in here a few days ago and someone who ran it unawares pasted in "it told me this.... "
[02:08] <skxx> hah cute.
[02:08] <lusmus> you use -i on commands too
[02:08] <jack_^> maco where in the man page?
[02:08] <maco> jack_^: the part about preserving root
[02:08] <jack_^>        --preserve-root
[02:08] <jack_^>               do not remove `/' (default)
[02:08]  * jack_^ fires up a vm to test
[02:08] <rcmaehl> sudo umount /
[02:09] <maco> rcmaehl: bad idea
[02:09] <rcmaehl> wait wait
[02:09] <rcmaehl> sudo mount / /dev/null
[02:09] <fisix> learned about shred
[02:09] <fisix> interesting
[02:09] <fisix> what would mounting dev null do?
[02:09] <fisix> freeze, but restart would be good?
[02:09] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: Instead of bugging people on irc, do it in terminal!
[02:09] <rcmaehl> fisix: /dev/null = blackhole
[02:10] <lusmus> is ubuntu server good if you gonna get a server and still want to learn linux?
[02:10] <fisix> so mounting it would freeze ur comp i'm guessing/
[02:10] <rcmaehl> shcherbak: but I am in terminal
[02:10] <rcmaehl> fisix: sudo mv / /dev/null
[02:10] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: /quit
[02:10] <shcherbak> !ops
[02:10] <skxx> so i'm trying to get this bastard printer to work... it's an hp deskjet 1000 and i'm running xu mav.  i try to print test pages and whatnot, and it says it's queueing jobs but nothings happening, and nothings apparently showing up in the printer queue. halp?
[02:11] <AnubArack> Flyback, as a backup solution, looks promising. Any one used it?
[02:11] <rcmaehl> shcherbak: ... what did I do he knows better as well as everone else
[02:11] <overclucker> it probably isn't a good idea to discuss commands taht could damage your system here
[02:11] <fisix> no way rcmaehl, does that effectively delete root?
[02:11] <skxx> well people need to know about them, and the dangers therein
[02:12] <rcmaehl> fisix: are you trying to like wipe your hard drive or something?
[02:12] <skxx> so when someone says "hey, type sudo rm -rf / into your terminal" they can say... "umm, stfu"
[02:12] <shcherbak> rcmaehl: Someone might not, and this issupport channel, so many come here to learn... constructive aproach
[02:12] <fisix> hahah nah i'm just curious about *nix's allowances to ridiculous things..
[02:12] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to get 64 bit lightning?  The Ubuntu Software Center keeps telling me "the software catalog needs updating."
[02:13] <lusmus> skxx: is ubuntu server good for server and you wanna learn linux?
[02:13] <skxx> fisix: there are so many ways to bone your system if you've got root priveleges.  that's why ubuntu runs without root by default.
[02:13] <Dwarf> What's the best way to link an ata message in dmesg to the mount point in my system?  I have a hard drive (ata7) dying on me according to dmesg, but I have no idea without cracking the box open and tracing the lines which drive it is.  I wanted to figure out what the mount point was so I know whether to fix it quick, or if it's an unused drive.
[02:13] <fisix> ooo
[02:13] <skxx> lusmus: if you wanna learn linux, ubuntu rocks.  vanilla ubuntu is still pretty good with running servers, depending on what you wanna do
[02:13] <craigbass1976> lusmus, just make sure you install openssh-server on it
[02:14] <craigbass1976> I've left a place more than once and realized I forgot that...
[02:14] <Vesuivius> can someone help I am trying to transfer data to my mp3 player but it says its a read only fs
[02:14] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, what's the player?
[02:14] <Vesuivius> Ipod
[02:14] <fisix> what are the differences between distros other than the gui? like why would one choose something (mint,arch) over another
[02:14] <skxx> Vesuivius: ipods are hella tricky
[02:14] <lusmus> skxx: have a like a home server with desktop i think ;)
[02:14] <skxx> lusmus: like a remote desktop?
[02:15] <Vesuivius> skxx : can you help me troubleshoot this
[02:15] <craigbass1976> skxx, we had no trouble, but it was an older one
[02:15] <lusmus> skxx: no
[02:15] <dejan_> hello, how can I install php on ubutu 10.10?
[02:15] <skxx> craigbass1976: what ver of ubuntu are/were you running
[02:15] <lusmus> skxx: which i can use while i programming my webpage or something
[02:15] <craigbass1976> dejan_, google LAMP ubuntu.  I know there's a good tut on the ubuntu sites somewhere
[02:16] <craigbass1976> skxx, lucid 32bit; not sure version of ipod
[02:16] <zach> fisix: Not all linux operating systems are compatible, so kde might have less programs for it than say Ubuntu.
[02:16] <dejan_> why it says that apache2-mpm-worker will be removed and apache2-mpm-prefork will be instaleld
[02:16] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: its a ipod classic can you help me change it from read only to read and write
[02:16] <dejan_> what this means?
[02:17] <dejan_> craigbass1976: but i dont want lamp
[02:17] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, type mount and see where it got mounted
[02:17] <tsimpson> zach: you can run KDE programs in Ubuntu just fine, and vice-versa
[02:17] <Abhijit> !lamp
[02:17] <fisix> hmmm
[02:17] <skxx> Vesuivius: if it mounts as a disk you should be able to change things around in fstab
[02:17] <craigbass1976> dejan_, but all the php packages you'll want are in the command
[02:17] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: its mounted in /media/_
[02:17] <dejan_> i knoiw..
[02:17] <dejan_> :S
[02:17] <shcherbak> fisix: Many, installer (we use apt, but rhel rpm), configs, software versions, and different kernels.
[02:18] <zach> tsimpson: But what about RPM and .Deb packages, can you run RPM packages in Ubuntu?
[02:18] <naptastic> hey guys, the apt-mirror package in the main Ubuntu repos appears to be unsigned... it's a little worrisome to me... who should I tell?
[02:18] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, media/?  I like your name by the way...  My kids are both infatuated with volcanoes right now
[02:18] <craigbass1976> What's the best way to get 64 bit lightning?  The Ubuntu Software Center keeps telling me "the software catalog needs updating."
[02:18] <khrm> dejan_ you want to install only php?
[02:18] <shcherbak> ubottu: tell zach about alien
[02:18] <dejan_> khrm: yes then mysql and php my admin
[02:18] <tsimpson> dejan_: if you just want command-line PHP, install php5-cli
[02:18] <dejan_> but amnnually not lamp xamp ect
[02:18] <dejan_> no comand line
[02:18] <craigbass1976> dejan_, sudo apt-get install php5.  I believe there's a php5-cli too, but you'll want to check
[02:19] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : its in /media/_
[02:19] <dejan_> i installed php5 but it say in synaptic that will remove apache2-mpm-worker and istall prefork
[02:19] <dejan_> what this means?
[02:19] <fisix> i know there are diff installers and kernel versions.. thus different software available for each linux distro. so one chooses a distro mainly based on the software that it's suited for?
[02:19] <tsimpson> zach: rpm and deb are package formats, and usually can be converted to and from each other, but "KDE" is not an OS btw
[02:19] <zach> how do i view private messages?
[02:19] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, media/disk  or it's just the whole media directory?
[02:19] <dejan_> also where will be php.ini file? :S
[02:19] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : its an underscore after /media
[02:20] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: the directory is "_"
[02:20] <tsimpson> dejan_: /etc/php5/
[02:20] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, try sudo umount /media/_  then type mount again and see if it went away.  Also, remember where the physical device is (/dev/sdb1, etc, etc)
[02:21] <skxx> when did ubuntu stop letting you use /etc/init.d ?
[02:21] <dejan_> tsimpson: ok thanks
[02:21] <shcherbak> fisix: Well software is mainly the same, it is most about comfort, Ubuntu is easier to maintain then... let's say any other distro, it is about how all pieces are connected.
[02:21] <craigbass1976> skxx, I don't think it stopped leting you, just suggests use service.  I noticed it in lucid, but I came up from hardy, so I'm not sure when it happened
[02:22] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: it went away
[02:22] <skxx> craigbass1976: yeah i started with breezy and i just noticed it
[02:22] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, mmmkay.  Now, sudo mount -t (filesystem type) /dev/(location I said to remember) /mnt
[02:22] <Zeu5> hi there,
[02:23] <fisix> shcherbak: what'r these "pieces" you speak of?
[02:23] <Zeu5> my battery power management settings has it that my laptop suspends when lid closed
[02:23] <craigbass1976> skxx, when was Breezy?  I didn't find ubuntu until dapper (redhat 7.3 and fedora befor ethat)
[02:23] <Zeu5> i closed my lid and opened again. all i get is a black screen with the mouse cursor blinking
[02:23] <skxx> hrm lemme see
[02:23] <KM0201> !breezy | craigbass1976
[02:23] <Zeu5> how can i resume from closing my lid on batter power?
[02:24] <KM0201> !warty | craigbass1976
[02:24] <rcmaehl> Zeu5: powerbutton
[02:24] <skxx> craigbass1976: breezy was 5.10 released in 2005
[02:24] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: What is the filesystem type
[02:24] <Zeu5> rcmaehl: i end up restarting my laptop :(
[02:24] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, look back in the mount command you typed a while ago; it should have listed it
[02:24] <rcmaehl> Zeu5: just tap the button not hold it
[02:25] <Zeu5> rcmaehl: oops
[02:25] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, I have to hit my arrow keys and wait.  What's your laptop model?  Mine's acer 5517
[02:25] <soreau> I installed ubuntu to usb using startup creator but it's sooo slow to install updates. downloading was fine
[02:25] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: mine is ASUS N43J
[02:26] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: what do you mena by arrow keys? u mean those cursor keys below the enter key?
[02:26] <dejan_> on php.net installation maual what hould i read for ubuntu , unix systems or debia gnu linux?
[02:26] <dejan_> instructions for istallaton
[02:26] <dejan_> i have ubuntu 10.10
[02:26] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, yep
[02:26] <tsimpson> dejan_: ubuntu is based on debian
[02:27] <Cody3290> ok it stopped
[02:27] <Cody3290> that was weird...
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Zeu5, then I think I have to waggle about on the trackpad to get the passwrod screen to come up, but maybe not; I'm probably just impatient
[02:27] <Zeu5> craigbass1976: what key should i press in case my ASUS behaves like your acer
[02:27] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: ok i executed that command sudo mount -t
[02:27] <Zeu5> i think i waggle craigbass1976but the mouse cursor is just blinking
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, and is there something in /mnt ?
[02:27] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, ls /mnt
[02:28] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, you typed the whole command right and raplaced what I had in parentheses with actual stuff?
[02:28] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : i cd'd into /mnt and its in there
[02:28] <suee> hey . how to install the antivirus for ubuntu ?
[02:28] <tsimpson> !antivirus | suee
[02:29] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, ls -l /mnt   Is anything rw- ?
[02:29] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, course, it's all owned by root...
[02:29] <skxx> this printer is a haggard pain in my ass.. fml
[02:29] <suee> oic . thanks for the info .
[02:29] <zach> suee: If you want antivirus software you can get for linux at http://www.dotdeb.com/antivirus.php
[02:29] <speedrunnerG55> hi, so i have this HDD
[02:29] <test23> hi all, have an issue on my 10.10 system that i noticed about a week ago. when multiple users are logged in, when one user logs out, the system freezes. any ideas?
[02:29] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: yea i tried to change ownership before, no success
[02:29] <IdleOne> !language | skxx
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> thats 40 Gb and i cant see it in places
[02:30] <dejan_> um
[02:30] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, but can you write to the device?  Try sudo touch /mnt/blah.txt
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> i reformated it in disc utility
[02:30] <speedrunnerG55> what should i do
[02:31] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976 : Read only filesystem
[02:31] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, expletive, expletive, expletive...
[02:32] <dejan_> i have hard time
[02:32] <dejan_> i removed php5 from synaptic
[02:32] <dejan_> i wrote this but it do nothig  why?
[02:32] <dejan_> # apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:32] <speedrunnerG55> what shall i do...
[02:32] <tsimpson> dejan_: did you write the '#
[02:32] <dejan_> yes
[02:32] <tsimpson> dejan_: don't, that makes the shell ignore it
[02:32] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: the touch command failed
[02:33] <dejan_> look what is this
[02:33] <tsimpson> dejan_: that symbol in documents is usually used to just show "run this as root"
[02:33] <dejan_> i try to install it like php net suggest and look
[02:33] <test23> any ideas ppl?
[02:33] <dejan_> i have removed it previously from syaptic only php5
[02:33] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$ apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:33] <dejan_> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[02:33] <dejan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:33] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$
[02:33] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:33] <tsimpson> dejan_: run as root means use sudo
[02:34] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$ sudo apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli
[02:34] <dejan_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:34] <dejan_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:34] <dejan_> dejan@Dejan:/home$
[02:34] <dejan_> why is this :S
[02:34] <KM0201> dejan_: are you just not very smart or what?
[02:34] <tsimpson> !paste | dejan_
[02:34] <soreau> dejan_: It asks you a question..
[02:34] <tsimpson> dejan_: close synaptic first
[02:34] <KM0201> jeez..
[02:34] <dejan_> sry
[02:34] <soreau> dejan_: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <-- the answer is probably 'yes'
[02:34] <dejan_> YES because syaptic was open thanks ALL!
[02:35] <tsimpson> KM0201: please don't insult people
[02:35] <dejan_> good book for linux ?
[02:35] <dejan_> totaly beginner
[02:35] <dejan_> 17 years experience in win hell
[02:35] <frankroa> Hey Everyone, I just updated 10.04 with the last batch of updates and after reboot all i get is grub> what do I do?
[02:35] <soreau> KM0201: Just because you're new doesn't mean you're less intelligent
[02:35] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, I don't know what else to tell you.  It's easier when I've got something in hand to play with.  What you may have to do is tail -f /var/log/messages then unplug and replug the thing in and watch what scrolls by.  Then google for the messages you see; that's how I start.  You can't be the only one with this ipod, and I'm sure someone's got it working.  Search the ubuntu forums for that stuff too, you're more a
[02:35] <craigbass1976> pt to get an answer
[02:35] <dejan_> suggest me some good beginer book for linux pls
[02:35] <soreau> s/new/uninformed
[02:36] <soreau> frankroa: Tried reinstalling grub?
[02:36] <KM0201> soreau: i just asked a question... and sorry, "1400 people ina  channel, so i'll paste a bunch" that would make me think.. i dunno.
[02:36] <craigbass1976> dejan_, I've found the oreilly books a bit dry.
[02:36] <frankroa> i don't even know how to do that
[02:37] <dejan_> um dry?
[02:37] <sguru> hi i need help related mutter
[02:37] <soreau> KM0201: Well in this channel, everyone is considered innocent until proven trolls :P
[02:38] <shcherbak> dejan_: it is called PS1 and $ stand for normal user, where ~ stand fo r root
[02:38] <KM0201> soreau: i'm well aware of that...
[02:38] <iggy19> frankroa: I don't know it off the top of my head, but there is pretty easy instructions for loading your system from a grub command prompt out there.
[02:38] <shcherbak> dejan_: sorry # for root
[02:38] <dejan_> :Oo
[02:38] <dejan_> shcherbak: sry i dot udestand you
[02:38] <sguru> anybody to help me in mutter
[02:38] <dejan_> suggest me some good beginer book for linux pls
[02:38] <frankroa> iggy i've been trying to find but most seem to instructions for duel operating systems
[02:39] <bastidrazor> !manual | dejan_
[02:39] <mjs> hi all, looking for help joining ubuntu maverick to a windows domain...
[02:39] <nit-wit> frankroa, is this a wubi install?
[02:39] <tsimpson> dejan_: if you want to discuss which books may be good, #ubuntu-offtopic is where you should ask
[02:39] <shcherbak> dejan_: sorry me too, trying to read to fast,
[02:39] <dejan_> um sry how i install gd library for php, is it same if i use command line to install it and synaptic?
[02:39] <craigbass1976> dejan_, hard for a beginner.  The nutshell books.  Try something by sams publishers
[02:39] <iggy19> frankroa: don't have time to google for you, but... something like locating your /boot files, your grub install, and then putting it all together and issuing the /bot command
[02:39] <mjs> having no luck on my own
[02:39] <dejan_> how to install gd library for php and exif pls
[02:39] <iggy19> /s/bot command/boot command
[02:39] <dejan_> tsimpson: thanks
[02:39] <noremorse1> mjs: are you using likewise-open?
[02:40] <dejan_> craigbass1976: thanks
[02:40] <frankroa> I made a cd from the 10.04 upgrade from ubuntu i have no idea what wubi is
[02:40] <shcherbak> dejan_: I will call again, when I will start to follow what is going on ;(
[02:40] <LadyNikon> oh yea
[02:40] <dejan_> ?
[02:40] <tsimpson> dejan_: php5-gd is the package you want, use synaptic if you're more comfortable with that
[02:40] <dejan_> yes
[02:40] <craigbass1976> dejan_, I was just trying to find a php book for you that's awesome.  Oh, I think it's downstairs.  brb
[02:40] <iggy19> frankroa: was scary as hell the first time I had to do it, but now that it's been a few years, and I've done it a few times, and I understand the process better, it acutally isn't too bad
[02:40] <dejan_> tsimpson: i am affraid synaptic is ot good
[02:40] <sguru> hi.. anybody to help me in mutter??
[02:40] <craigbass1976> dejan_, or do you just need linux help?
[02:40] <rp21> i love synaptic
[02:41] <mjs> noremorse1, tried using likewise-open got it to work before,  but it's been awhile, and forgotten all of the steps...willing to use ADS or centrify...what ever works...
[02:41] <dejan_> tsimpson: it  install pacages too or just dowload them? also do i have to install additional software for gd and exif library?
[02:41] <tsimpson> sguru: if you ask a specific question people may answer
[02:41] <skxx> rp21: yeps man synaptic is the juice
[02:41] <rp21> how can i configure window handling and placement in Ubuntu 10.10?
[02:41] <nit-wit> frankroa, wubi is a inside windows install
[02:41] <Fiveways> Hey guys, I installed 10.10 this morning and I'm not getting a bootloader. Never had this problem before. I've tried updating grub and everything, I was finally able to get it to generate the menu.lst but still no bootloader when I restart
[02:41] <noremorse1> mjs: talk in private... i just sent you a message
[02:41] <rp21> it keeps giving me options to "theme". I don#t want to theme, i want resize handles that are big enough for me to find them!
[02:42] <frankroa> nit-wit then no i wiped the hard drive and an ubuntu only install
[02:42] <tsimpson> dejan_: synaptic both downloads and installs packages, php5-gd is the the default Ubuntu repositories so you don't need to enable anything extra
[02:42] <iggy19> frankroa: the good news is twofold: 1. your system is almost certainly there and bootable, if you can make grub find it, and, 2. there is actuall not much danger of f'ing up your system irreperably based upon the commands you can issue in the grub shell (take that with a grain of salt, but that's been my experience)
[02:42] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:42] <nit-wit> frankroa, run on a live ubuntu cd fdisk -l and paste bin the results
[02:42] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: any suggestions?
[02:43] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, did you see what I said about tail -f /var/log/messages ?
[02:43] <elbertchuah> #android
[02:43] <Vesuivius> craigbass1976: no, sorry about that
[02:43] <craigbass1976> Vesuivius, I don't know what else to tell you.  It's easier when I've got something in hand to play with.  What you may have to do is tail -f /var/log/messages then unplug and replug the thing in and watch what scrolls by.  Then google for the messages you see; that's how I start.  You can't be the only one with this ipod, and I'm sure someone's got it working.  Search the ubuntu forums for that stuff too, you're more a
[02:43] <craigbass1976> pt to get an answer
[02:44] <Fiveways> Hmm
[02:44] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:44] <jasion> test
[02:44] <noremorse1> Anyone have experience getting Ubuntu 10.10 past a GFI Webmonitor proxy?
[02:44] <dejan_> linux is t least 10 times beter then wi
[02:44] <Fiveways> I've installed ubuntu a million times (ok, more like 10, lol) and I've never had an issue with grub not installing properly until now
[02:44] <Fiveways> :(
[02:45] <iggy19> frankroa: http://orgs.man.ac.uk/documentation/grub/grub_4.html
[02:45] <rp21> oh it's alt-F8
[02:46] <Random832> anyone have experience getting an alps touchpad working in ubuntu?
[02:46] <nit-wit> Fiveways, you shouldn't have a menu.list that is grub legacy can you be more descriptive ie whats the set up and if a grub menu is showing at all or with the shift key held down on powering on.
[02:46] <dejan_> ok one more thing
[02:46] <doug9> looking for a site to explain basic networking
[02:47] <dejan_> how to install mysql ?
[02:47] <rcmaehl> hey how do I get my cpu info from terminal?
[02:47] <EnigmaticCoder> Does anyone know how to compile a program from source to another platform (cross compile)?
[02:47] <dejan_> i ahve several files o syaptic dont sure what to install
[02:47] <dejan_> :S
[02:47] <tsimpson> dejan_: so you do want lamp?
[02:47] <dejan_> no no
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !mysql
[02:47] <bastidrazor> rcmaehl: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:47] <dejan_> :)
[02:47] <iggy19> frankroa: don't forget the huge value of tab-completion within the GRUB environment.  root<TAB> should be useful/instructive.
[02:47] <dejan_> hahah
[02:47] <tsimpson> dejan_: Linux + Apache + MySQL + PHP == lamp
[02:47] <dejan_> tsimpson: get seriosu dude !
[02:47] <dejan_> really?
[02:47] <tsimpson> yes
[02:47] <FloodBot3> dejan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:47] <dejan_> :)
[02:47] <dejan_> um
[02:48] <Fiveways> nit-wit: I have 4 identical 320gb drives, bios is set to boot from the 1st one, where win 7 is installed. ubuntu is installed on the 3rd disk. when i start the pc it boots straight into 10.10, no list
[02:48] <Fiveways> i can try holding shift when I start it up if that's what I need to do
[02:48] <dejan_> just this more and im gone i promise
[02:48] <ninjai> has anyone had a problem with wine where the mouse loses focus in full screen games when you get close to the edge of the screen?  Havingthis problem with starcraft 2
[02:48] <dejan_> tsimpson: get real! :)
[02:48] <tsimpson> dejan_: what do you mean?
[02:48] <nit-wit> Fiveways, run this script and pastebin all the text. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[02:49] <dejan_> tsimpson: pls help me
[02:49] <tsimpson> dejan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:49] <Fiveways> nit-wit: will do, just a moment
[02:49] <murphylan> Hi
[02:49] <dejan_> how to install mysql i install mysql-php or mysql-cliennt  5,1?
[02:49] <tsimpson> follow the instruction in the link
[02:49] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: apt-get install mysql-server
[02:49] <doug9> Can someone refer me to a site where I can get basic networking explained?
[02:49] <nit-wit> Fiveways, cool
[02:50] <dejan_> i have apache
[02:50] <sguru> i recently installed ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.. on bootup the font on the taskbar look corrupted and as soon as i take my cursor to dockbar the entire screen restarts
[02:50] <sguru> i used to stop gdm and then startx to have stable desktop... now if i do unity.. i get the dockbar (but still unusable).. but when i do mutter --replace & i see the old problem
[02:50] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: thanks are you sure this is the way?
[02:50] <sguru> so no idea about this problem?
[02:50] <dejan_> will i need additional files for it to conect with apache?
[02:51] <Guest63393> Hey, I'm a newbie to ubuntu so I have a question about the irssi script nicklist.pl
[02:51] <tsimpson> dejan_: follow the instruction in the link
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: apt-get install phpmyadmin php5 mysql-server
[02:51] <tsimpson> it tells you *exactly* how to do it
[02:51] <phoenixsampras> should do
[02:51] <Fiveways> nit-wit: http://pastebin.com/BMibhh0p
[02:51] <Guest63393> when I try to use it it says couldn't write to the fifo
[02:52] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: many thanks
[02:52] <doug9> tsimpson: do you have a reference for a basic networking tutorial site?
[02:52] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: will i need client
[02:52] <sguru> so no idea about this problem?
[02:52] <nit-wit> Fiveways, thanks hold on
[02:52] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: nah
[02:52] <dejan_> what is client what is server
[02:52] <dejan_> :S
[02:53] <dejan_> phoenixsampras: with mysql server im goot to go? i have apache ad php intalled
[02:53] <tsimpson> doug9: not really, but there's probably stuff at http://help.ubuntu.com/
[02:53] <doug9> tsimpson: thankx
[02:53] <phoenixsampras> dejan_: yes sri
[02:53] <sguru> anybody to help me out in mutter
[02:53] <bastidrazor> dejan_: if you're not going to actually take ANYONE's advice.. why do you keep asking?
[02:54] <dejan_> guy on #mysql told me i need client too for mysql
[02:54] <chbosky> when I try to open nicklistfifo it tells me I don't have an application for pipe files
[02:54] <dejan_> what is client?
[02:54] <dejan_> :S
[02:54] <chbosky> can anyone tell me what application I need for pipe files?
[02:54] <Abhijit> !mysql
[02:54] <bastidrazor> dejan_: i clearly see why you were banned from #httpd
[02:54] <chbosky> !pipe
[02:54] <Rexodus> chbosky: |
[02:54] <sguru> okay thanks bye
[02:55] <chbosky> so, what application do I need for pipe files?
[02:55] <skutr3> can someone help me with my java plugin please?
[02:56] <nit-wit> Fiveways, is the sde2 the latest Ubuntu install? It has both grub legacy and grub2 installed
[02:56] <iggy19> chbosky: what command are you attempting to issue?
[02:56] <tsimpson> chbosky: none, pipes are a part of the OS
[02:56] <skutr3> it doesnt work
[02:56] <chbosky> I'm trying to open this file for my nicklist.pl script
[02:56] <chbosky> nicklistfifo
[02:56] <oldos2er> chbosky: what do you mean by pipe files?
[02:56] <rootmex1> hello
[02:56] <noobie_> hi
[02:57] <noobie_> can you help me?
[02:57] <tsimpson> oldos2er: fifo's
[02:57] <oldos2er> ask away
[02:57] <skutr3> can someone help me with my java plugin please? i need help creating a symbolic link
[02:57] <noobie_> i have a problem after last update of ubuntu
[02:57] <rootmex1> some people from mexico___
[02:57] <chbosky> so, what do I do then?
[02:58] <iggy19> chbosky: from terminal, "gksudo /<path>/nicklistfifo"
[02:58] <noobie_> when i try to boot it says "modprobe: FATAL: Module index: unexpected error: EOF"
[02:58] <tsimpson> iggy19: what?
[02:58] <soreau> skutr34: ln -s /some/path/somfile /some/path/somesymlink
[02:58] <noobie_> and it wouldn't boot
[02:58] <noobie_> apparently, modprobe doesn't work at all now
[02:59] <oldos2er> skutr34: openjdk or sun (oracle) java?
[02:59] <noobie_> did anyone encounter the same problem?
[02:59] <Rexodus> noobie_: do you have your old kernels?
[02:59] <rcmaehl> how do I strip text in terminal from like a grep result?
[02:59] <noobie_> um, no
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: awk or cut or sed
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: depending on exactly what you want to get rid of
[03:00] <iggy19> chbosky: from terminal, "gksudo gedit /<path>/nicklistfifo"  --- sorry about the bad command earlier!
[03:00] <noobie_> my oldest one is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <rcmaehl> marco everything to the left or right
[03:00] <chbosky> oh, ok iggy19
[03:00] <maco> rcmaehl: of the : ?
[03:01] <chbosky> the other one didn't work
[03:01] <chbosky> ?:p
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: grep foo | cut -d: -f 1
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: for eveything left
[03:01] <maco> rcmaehl: 2 for right
[03:01] <noobie_> neither <IP_ADDRESS> not <IP_ADDRESS> work
[03:02] <oldos2er> noobie: can you boot into recovery mode?
[03:02] <noobie_> no
[03:02] <Jasonn> !nick | noobie_
[03:02] <Rexodus> noobie_: does that distro boot from live-cd?
[03:02] <Jasonn> noobie_: Wrong one, sorry
[03:02] <gustavo> alo, alguem em portugues?
[03:02] <Rexodus> noobie_: as should be
[03:02] <Fiveways> nit-wit: sorry, I'm using webchat, had to refresh haha. http://pastebin.com/BMibhh0p
[03:03] <Jasonn> !pt | gustavo
[03:03] <noobie_> seems like modprobe doesn't work at all now, so it can't load fs modules, hence cannot boot
[03:03] <noobie_> i don't have an ubuntu cd on me
[03:03] <gustavo> ei jasoon
[03:03] <nit-wit> Fiveways, I notice a couple of things sde2 looks like the latest install but it has both grus
[03:03] <Rexodus> Can U make 1?
[03:03] <nit-wit> *grubs
[03:03] <noobie_> right now i'm on LFS livecd that's several years old
[03:04] <gustavo> desculpe, não sei usar irc
[03:04] <Rexodus> No, this version ofcourse
[03:04] <noobie_> it worked okay until today's update
[03:04] <tjiggi_fo> !br | gustavo
[03:04] <Fiveways> nit-wit: so what should I do to resolve it? I'm just confused because it says that grub2 is installed on sda
[03:05] <insanity99> hey guys i've got the gog version of heroes of might and magic complete. how can i make it run in ubuntu?
[03:05] <gustavo> muito obrigado!
[03:05] <Rexodus> Yeah, I know. That's why I wanna know if the live-cd works
[03:05] <insanity99> hey guys i've got the gog version of heroes of might and magic complete. how can i make it run in ubuntu?
[03:05] <Charles`> ls
[03:05] <MeanEYE> insanity99: linux version or windows
[03:05] <Charles`> err
[03:05] <nit-wit> Fiveways, yes it loks like you tied to reload grub if so with what disc
[03:05] <insanity99> its an exe
[03:06] <MeanEYE> insanity99: then it's a windows... you can run it using wine but network play will be crippled
[03:06] <nit-wit> Fiveways, I opened a dialogue
[03:06] <noobie_> i could try to burn one, but it's going to take forever to download the image, burn it and boot from it
[03:06] <noobie_> my internet here is not very fast and stable
[03:06] <noobie_> what are the possibilities of what could be the problem?
[03:06] <Rexodus> Hmmm
[03:06] <Rexodus> everything :)
[03:06] <hoddd> action/ slaps johhn with a big large trout
[03:07] <insanity99> MeanEYE, yeah but sound disapears after so long for some reason.
[03:07] <noobie_> did anyone ever encounter something like that?
[03:07] <MeanEYE> insanity99: start winecfg and in sound configuration make sure your sound is emulated. that should fix problems with your sound
[03:07] <dejan_> is it ok to install many packages at same time from synaptic?
[03:07] <MeanEYE> dejan_: da
[03:07] <tsimpson> dejan_: yes, that's what it's designed to do
[03:08] <insanity99> what sound driver should i choose?
[03:08] <oldos2er> noobie: i know this doesn't help you, but I've never encountered a problem with updates that severe
[03:09] <Rexodus> dejan_: no probs.
[03:09] <noobie_> i don't even know if depmod still works in later ubuntu versions
[03:09] <insanity99> MeanEYE, should i use default?
[03:09] <insanity99> ALSA
[03:09] <oldos2er> i usually keep several kernels installed, just in case
[03:09] <MeanEYE> insanity99: don't change the driver (should be either alsa or pulseaudio)... on the bottom of that window you have Hardware Acceleration
[03:10] <insanity99> oh ok set from full to emulation?
[03:10] <MeanEYE> insanity99: yep...
[03:10] <MeanEYE> insanity99: that fixed it in my case anyway
[03:10] <insanity99> thanks
[03:10] <noobie_> is there any way to run depmod from chroot?
[03:11] <Rexodus> oldos2er: I've encountered manny problems during upgrades... All the time.
[03:11] <insanity99> MeanEYE, anything else you recommend i change i config?
[03:11] <Rexodus> That wy I prefer a fresh install
[03:11] <extra11> :D
[03:12] <noobie_> reinstalling is kind of a windows way
[03:12] <MeanEYE> insanity99: for HoMM, no not really. there's a linux version of HoMM but it's only first in HoMM 3 series (not Armageddons Blade or others)...
[03:12] <noobie_> i would prefer to keep my current install
[03:12] <insanity99> ok thanks
[03:12] <speedrunnerG55> hey fellow linux uers
[03:12] <extra11> hey friend
[03:12] <Rexodus> noobie_: I agree. Most of the time..
[03:12] <MeanEYE> speedrunnerG55: hello
[03:13] <rcmaehl> Why doesn't pcspkr work?
[03:13] <charley__> can anyone help with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704587
[03:15] <matthew> ollo
[03:15] <noobie_> so i found there are 2.6.35-27-generic and 2.6.35-28-generic subdirs in my /lib/modules
[03:16] <noobie_> surprisingly, no earlier kernels
[03:16] <gpled> how can i get x window to rebuild?
[03:16] <Guest11439> how to i install firefox 4.0 on ubuntu
[03:16] <MeanEYE> gpled: what do you mean by rebuild?
[03:16] <MeanEYE> gpled: like from the source code, or just restart it?
[03:17] <gpled> MeanEYE: i had to change vidoe cards
[03:17] <Jasonn> Guest11439: Its not recommended, but you have to download the beta .tar.gz from the mozilla website and manually-install it
[03:17] <MeanEYE> gpled: ooh, that... from which to which cared?
[03:17] <fisix> Guest11439: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[03:17] <MeanEYE> card*
[03:17] <Guest11439> thanks
[03:17] <gpled> ati
[03:17] <noobie_> so i chrooted into where my old system root was mounted and did depmod -a <IP_ADDRESS>-generic and depmod -a <IP_ADDRESS>-generic
[03:17] <fisix> Guest11439, search for firefox
[03:17] <gpled> have no x right now
[03:17] <fisix> gpled, then how are you on irc?
[03:18] <insanity99> MeanEYE, sorry but the sound is stuttering
[03:18] <MeanEYE> gpled: if you switched from ati to nvidia, that can be a problem
[03:18] <oldos2er> there's a firefox 4 ppa: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-4-0-beta-using-ubuntu-ppa.html
[03:18] <insanity99> MeanEYE, sorry but the sound is stuttering
[03:18] <MeanEYE> insanity99: :/ then revert back to hardware acceleration and try a different sound driver
[03:19] <gpled> MeanEYE: its worse. i went from nvidia to ati :(
[03:19] <Xinux> gpled: What do you mean by no X?
[03:19] <Xinux> gpled: As in it's not working / not installed, or it is not running
[03:19] <noobie_> i dunno if it helps, it seems like there was modules.dep file already
[03:19] <gpled> Xinux: i can boot to cli but no x
[03:19] <insanity99> sorry if that was already posted, when i typed it in i realised that the channel was inactive, no messages appearing. keeps happening to me on xchat
[03:20] <oldos2er> gpled: can you run startx?
[03:20] <gpled> oldos2er: it fails
[03:20] <MeanEYE> Xinux: he changed from nVidia to ATI graphic card, and system won't start X
[03:20] <Rexodus> gpled: or gdm?
[03:20] <Rexodus> ok
[03:20] <gpled> i was hoping for some nifty cammand line apt-get to tell x to rescan for current video card
[03:21] <noobie_> anyone knows how this things work in newer ubuntus? with all the late changes i'm not sure anymore
[03:21] <oldos2er> gpled: boot to recovery mode, run apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[03:21] <Rexodus> I guess you need to edit your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf.
[03:21] <gpled> grrr, no mouse :)
[03:21] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: hey there! :)
[03:21] <gpled> will try and type it
[03:22] <oldos2er> hey where? :)
[03:22] <speedrunnerG55> .minecraft
[03:22] <gpled> oldos2er: can you pm me that command so it does not scroll off
[03:22] <oldos2er> just a sec.
[03:22] <airtonix> using ubuntu maverick, disconnect from any networks (unplug lan cables, disengage warp drives, etc etc) i launch evince  and it never loads... replug in lan cable and/or other network, evince then loads when requested. whats up with that ?
[03:22] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: here :P... I just remembered your nick from one of threads on ubuntu forums... :D about my file manager, Sunflower :) if you remember
[03:23] <oldos2er> MeanEYE: I remember
[03:23] <insanity99> sound wont work on other drivers :\
[03:23] <MeanEYE> <3
[03:23] <airtonix> since when did evince require a network connection to look at a pdf on my destop?
[03:23] <oldos2er> did you ever find a two pane fm?
[03:23]  * noobie_ sighs
[03:23] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: :D I made my own ... :D
[03:23] <oldos2er> that's one way to solve a problem...
[03:23] <noobie_> well... back to google, i guess
[03:24] <oldos2er> sorry noobie, don't know what to tell you
[03:24] <gpled> ok, got the command in. it is working away
[03:24] <oldos2er> gpled: let us know how it goes
[03:24] <gpled> glad i have irssi :)
[03:24] <gpled> k, off to reboot
[03:24] <gpled> thanks
[03:25] <oldos2er> gpled: me too  :)
[03:26] <charley__> anyone help me with this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1704587
[03:26] <Guest37756> fuck
[03:26] <dribble> any one know of a speach to text that can take audio <.aup> files and convert to words
[03:26] <Guest37756> hey all
[03:26] <dejan_> i istalled phpmyadmin on ubuntu apache2 with synaptic now it say reconfigure automativly server i have 2 serevrs apache and lighttpd what is lihttpd?
[03:27] <MeanEYE> dejan_: web server just like apache...
[03:27] <dejan_> i installed only apache why is instlled this server too?
[03:27] <bastidrazor> dejan_: have you ever tried to do any research on your own?
[03:27] <dejan_> bastidrazor: yes without success
[03:28] <dribble> is there a text to speach program
[03:28] <MeanEYE> dejan_: if installation is asking to choose one of those two, just choose the one you have installed
[03:28] <KM0201> !info orca | dribble
[03:28] <dejan_> is this some trojan? :(
[03:28] <KM0201> hmm
[03:28] <dejan_> MeanEYE: why the other server is there too
[03:28] <dejan_> is this trojan?
[03:28] <dejan_> i installed only apache
[03:29] <MeanEYE> dribble: there are libraries for python and similar
[03:29] <oldos2er> it's gnome-orca
[03:29] <MeanEYE> dejan_: phpmyadmin can use those 2, it doesn't detect which one you have and no it's not a trojan
[03:29] <dribble> I have a text to speak but I don't know if can do speach to text
[03:29] <dejan_> MeanEYE: ok thanks
[03:29] <Guest37756> u still use phpmyadmin ..                     ///???
[03:29] <dejan_> why not
[03:29] <dejan_> hat to use else?
[03:29] <fizyplankton> is there any way to force ubuntu to uodate the battery info? it says its at 100 % (that was my other battery) but the light on my laptop shows that clearly the batters is dead (and i know that it is dead. i drained it this morning). it pisses me off how i have to wait for it to check the battery status. is there any way to force it to check?
[03:29] <dejan_> what*
[03:30] <kli0rf> morning
[03:30] <oldos2er> evening
[03:30] <\share> night
[03:30] <kli0rf> anyone could tell me what's the name of this theme: http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2010/03/ubuntu_darktheme-thumb-640xauto-12418.jpg ?
[03:31] <syrinx_> kli0rf: looks like darktheme?
[03:31] <oldos2er> ambiance, i think
[03:31] <kli0rf> is there a place i could download this theme?
[03:31] <dejan_> are there trojans for ubuntu?
[03:31] <syrinx_> its a default
[03:31] <kli0rf> want to install it on debian
[03:31] <johny-b-goode> hello ppl
[03:31] <fizyplankton> dejan_ virtualy no
[03:31] <ivanBliminse> hello all.. i'm trying to type an ascii code into GEDIT but when I hold the alt, it highlights the options at the top.. (like alt+f for file)... anyway around this?
[03:31] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: it's an ambiance theme from 10.04
[03:31] <johny-b-goode> is there a way to downgrade a package?
[03:31] <kli0rf> MeanEYE: thanks! :)
[03:32] <oldos2er> kli0rf: go to packages.ubuntu.com, search for ambiance
[03:32] <dejan_> fizyplankton: virtually what that means
[03:32] <fizyplankton> dejan_, there ARE viruses, but they are EXTREMELY unlikely. macs are 10x more likely to get viruses than linux
[03:32] <sacarlson> dejan_: I could write you one if you  want one.  problem is they would be imposible to install by accident
[03:32] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: on ubuntu-ard.org there should be some similar modifications... but that theme had really ugly progress bars and other controls... to me, new Ambiance is great
[03:33] <josh1> I am using xubuntu, (nobody seems on their channel) how do I make a sd card automount on boot?
[03:33] <dejan_> sacarlson: why imposible to install
[03:33] <dejan_> i istall some software and they can be there?
[03:33] <kli0rf> mmm, but i can't find ambiance on packages.ubuntu.org.. :/
[03:33] <bc81> hi.  i want to update milkytracker from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/extra  but not blender or anything else.  if i apt-add-repository, won't it want to upgrade other software too?  if so, can that be avoided?
[03:33] <sacarlson> dejan_: because this is open source so the code can be seen be millions so you can't hide it
[03:33] <fizyplankton> dejan_ because linux permissions are vastly different that windows
[03:33] <dejan_> so are there any actual viruses esepcially trojans ?
[03:33] <dejan_> um
[03:33] <ivanBliminse> I suppose I need to know how to make gnome highlight the toolbar on a full press of "ALT" instead of just holding it down, does anyone know where that setting is?
[03:33] <fizyplankton> dejan_, yes, but they are EXTREMELY unlikely
[03:33] <maco> dejan_: trojans are not a type of virus.
[03:33] <maco> dejan_: viruses and trojans are both a type of malware
[03:33] <oldos2er> kli0rf, my bad, look for light-themes instead.
[03:34] <Random832> sacarlson: er, how is it impossible to install by accident
[03:34] <\share> there should be a button to close dvd/cdrom drive!
[03:34] <Random832> also, "accident' is a sliding scale
[03:34] <maco> dejan_: the last virus i recall for linux was in 2007. it was an OOo macro virus
[03:34] <\share> eject -T
[03:34] <dejan_> so if i install some software can there be trojan in it? and someone to hack me easy and go into my server pc use my iternet conection slow my pc delte files?
[03:34] <maco> dejan_: there was a trojan on gnome-look.org last year
[03:34] <Random832> you can trick someone into installing it
[03:34] <MeanEYE> dejan_: somewhere I've read there are only 15 or so viruses for linux... most of them for old linuxes, like from 1998 or something like that.
[03:34] <oldos2er> ambiance should be in the light-themes package
[03:34] <thraspic> How can I determine the location of the icon used by the applet "volume control" in my task bar?  I searched for icon files and found loads, but none matched.  I'm using LXDE.
[03:34] <maco> MeanEYE: more like 30, and thats only counting ones released into the wild
[03:34] <Random832> users always want to see the dancing pigs, and DAMMIT they will open a passworded zip file, compile the .c file within, and run it as root if they have to to get the dancing pigs
[03:34] <MeanEYE> maco: still a small number :)
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: a few hundred if you count proof-of-concept-to-fix-a-bug-but-never-released
[03:35] <sacarlson> Random832: I think I should have said almost impossible, is that better?
[03:35] <\share> hell ubuntuers how r u
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: thats also only counting oens that are *actually* viruses
[03:35] <bc81> \share: you can make one by adding a custom application launcher to your panel etc
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: since there are many types of malware that aren't viruses
[03:35] <Random832> there is no way to engineer idiots out of the system
[03:35] <\share> bc81: I use a keyboard shortcut
[03:35] <\share> :p
[03:35] <bc81> \share: ok
[03:35] <MeanEYE> maco: yeah, I know... just saying also community patches things rather quickly
[03:35] <syrinx_> Random832: truer words never spoken
[03:35] <\share> bc81: but thereis a button to close it :\
[03:35] <maco> MeanEYE: sure
[03:36] <sacarlson> Random832: well this is true but that's why if you stay within the repository it is much less likely
[03:36] <johny-b-goode> is there a way to downgrade a package?
[03:36] <Vesuivius> I am having trouble changing permissions and ownership of my ipod in ubuntu, can anyone help?
[03:36] <syrinx_> not always that easy sacarlson
[03:37] <kli0rf> mmm, i found something named maverick
[03:37] <kli0rf> but nothing related to ambiance..
[03:37] <oldos2er> kli0rf: maverick is ubuntu 10.10
[03:38] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: you need maverick ambiance theme?
[03:38] <sacarlson> syrinx_:  Random832: I can't argue that fact
[03:38] <oldos2er> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=light-themes&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[03:39] <MeanEYE> kli0rf:
[03:39] <kli0rf> i probably need 10.4 theme..
[03:39] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/light-themes
[03:39] <oldos2er> kli0rf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/light-themes
[03:39] <oldos2er> d'oh
[03:39] <MeanEYE> haha <3
[03:40] <syrinx_> hivemind
[03:40] <oldos2er> gmta
[03:40] <fizyplankton> is there any way to force ubuntu to uodate the battery info? it says its at 100 % (that was my other battery) but the light on my laptop shows that clearly the batters is dead (and i know that it is dead. i drained it this morning). it pisses me off how i have to wait for it to check the battery status. is there any way to force it to check?
[03:40] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: just change maverick part to lucid
[03:40] <oldos2er> fizyplankton: have you tried asking on ubuntuforums.org?
[03:41] <fizyplankton> oldos2er, no. irc is faster xD
[03:41] <kli0rf> ok, let me try
[03:41] <oldos2er> yes, but more people will see it and possibly know the answer on the forums
[03:41] <fizyplankton> yeah true
[03:41] <oldos2er> i am battery-ignorant
[03:42] <fizyplankton> lol
[03:42] <gpled> here is how i fixed it:  rebooted to safe. selected config graphics. selected restore x to default. and reboot
[03:42] <oldos2er> gpled: you fixed it? great!
[03:42] <gpled> yep, looks good now
[03:42] <kli0rf> wow!
[03:43] <kli0rf> geez, it looks awesome! :)
[03:43] <kli0rf> cool! thanks, guys :)
[03:43] <oldos2er> kli0rf: glad you found it
[03:43] <oldos2er> sure thing
[03:43] <sacarlson> fizyplankton: I read a bit about it in the past and I didn't find a solution withou cycleing the battery,  I'm not sure why that would be.  seems it some how runs partly on time
[03:43] <gpled> oldos2er: cool how old guys still remember command line :)  kind of fun getting in irc with no gui
[03:43] <MeanEYE> kli0rf: np :D have fun
[03:44] <fizyplankton> sacarlson w/o doing what now/???
[03:44] <ivanBliminse> Anyone know how to do ascii keys ?
[03:44] <MeanEYE> gpled: I use to be XChat fan, but irssi i ssooo much economical and better
[03:44] <MeanEYE> straight to the point :)
[03:44] <harmaz> is there a "list" function for apt-get? i haven't found it in the man page. basically, i want to know if [program] is out there before trying to install it
[03:44] <MeanEYE> harmaz: apt-get --help :D
[03:44] <gpled> MeanEYE: yep, irssi can get you out of a jam :)
[03:45] <MeanEYE> harmaz: ooh, you want to see if package exists?
[03:45] <syrinx_> <3 irssi
[03:45] <Aginor> harmaz: apt-cache search <name>
[03:45] <oldos2er> gpled: i was actually on the internet when it was all text.
[03:45] <Aginor> harmaz: or keyword, for example make
[03:45] <oldos2er> just yesterday, 1993
[03:45] <gpled> oldos2er: remember gopher :)
[03:45] <oldos2er> and archie, yeah
[03:45] <fizyplankton> does anyone know a command line irc client? i personally think that linux guis are an insult to the os
[03:46] <oldos2er> irssi!
[03:46] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: irssi!!! :)
[03:46] <fizyplankton> irssi can be run in terminal?
[03:46] <MeanEYE> yeah
[03:46] <gpled> oldos2er: lol. and think their was a veronica
[03:46] <fizyplankton> whats the package name?
[03:46] <oldos2er> yeah
[03:46] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: irssi
[03:46] <oldos2er> irssi
[03:46] <ivanBliminse> doh.. noone knows how to do ascii codes in ubuntu 10.04?
[03:46] <MeanEYE> :D
[03:46] <thraspic> irssi is great.
[03:46] <mike23pizzo> Hello.  I'm trying to build the dolphin emulator and seem to be running into some problems.  Is it possible anyone can help me?
[03:47] <gpled> oldos2er: back in the days when you would get banned if you said you want to sell something
[03:47] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: do you mean in terminal or any other application?
[03:47] <thraspic> ivanBliminse: not me.  I use the character map.
[03:47] <fizyplankton> ok. i never use the ubuntu software center, b/c i have a piece of crap 2004 dell inspiron 1100 laptop with only 128 FRICKING MEGS of ram. the gui is way too laggy'
[03:47] <oldos2er> yeah, back when i reported every spammer on usenet
[03:47] <sacarlson> fizyplankton: something like this http://www.eastwoodzhao.com/maintaining-and-calibrating-a-laptop-battery-pack/
[03:47] <ivanBliminse> MeanEYE, i'm trying to make a bullet (ALT+183) in GEDIT... but since the menu bar lights up when you hold alt down it wont let me...
[03:47] <fizyplankton> yeah. theres a reason i put linux on this sexy 128 megs of ram not windows
[03:47] <ivanBliminse> thraspic, can't find it there either
[03:47] <Griz64> having 'flash' issues. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/351705  is what i show as installed and most pages work, but some do not. can anyone here shed any light on this?? (purdy pleeze)
[03:48] <LittleRed> you too Griz64?
[03:48] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383408
[03:48] <gpled> oldos2er: you ever use something call (i think) waffle
[03:48] <Griz64> LittleRed, uh, guess so.
[03:48] <thraspic> ivanBliminse: you could try the command gucharmap or install it
[03:48] <oldos2er> Griz64, try flashaid in firefox to install flash: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flash-aid/
[03:49] <oldos2er> gpled: don't think i've heard of waffle
[03:49] <LittleRed> I downloaded the adobe 64bit beta, but I'm afraid to install it unless I get some feedback from here
[03:49] <gpled> oldos2er: think it was a bbs for internet berfore gui
[03:49] <oldos2er> LittleRed: 64 bit flash is more stable for me than 32 bit
[03:49] <soreau> I can't believe how long persistent usb takes to install packages. I guess it's significantly slower than disk hdd's
[03:49] <MeanEYE> oldos2er: 10.3?
[03:50] <LittleRed> on 10.10? oldos2er
[03:50] <ivanBliminse> MeanEYE, I think this will help, thanks
[03:50] <oldos2er> yes, on 10.10
[03:50] <oldos2er> whatever the latest flash 64 is
[03:50] <oldos2er> don't know the v. no.
[03:50] <MeanEYE> ivanBliminse: np :D
[03:50] <LittleRed> sweet... I crashed my system yesterday with a kernel upgrade, so I was a bit hesitant
[03:51] <gpled> welp, im off. thanks for the help, and the chat
[03:51] <oldos2er> bye gpled
[03:52] <naptastic> Is anyone else getting warnings / errors about Ubuntu packages being unsigned?
[03:52] <tripelb> hello. new phone - LG 900g., using USB cable. problems getting ubuntu to see it last night. had me to something to see the system errors code. I could not understand last night and too tired to learn it. Today I tried it in windows. Windows told me that it couldnt recognize it and I should disconnect and try it again and if it didnt work I should use another device. -- lastnight looked at fdisk and did - tail -f /var/log/syslog (results a
[03:52] <MeanEYE> naptastic: those are probably from ppa you added
[03:52] <mike23pizzo> Does anyone have any knowledge about installing Dolphin Emulator
[03:52] <LittleRed> naptastic... what version ubuntu?
[03:52] <naptastic> MeanEYE, no they're main. things like apt-mirror and libasound
[03:52] <naptastic> LittleRed, Ubuntu 10.10
[03:52] <oldos2er> naptastic: that's a faq. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SecureApt
[03:53] <MeanEYE> naptastic: I don't have problems like those :/
[03:53] <LittleRed> no I reloaded 10.4 yestersay and then upgraded, no error messages on unsigned stuff
[03:53] <oldos2er> sometimes you might just need to run sudo apt-get update
[03:55] <oldos2er> see you all later. i gots to go
[03:55] <LittleRed> naptstic... what ones are giving you errors?
[03:57] <Vesuivius> can anyone help with changing permissions of a folder
[03:57] <ilokas> Some applications start but are not in the starting application under preferences, how can I edit them?
[03:58] <smw> Vesuivius, sure. GUI or CLI?
[03:58] <smw> Vesuivius, what file do you want to change the permissions on?
[03:58] <realgod> test
[03:59] <realgod> not pass
[03:59] <Vesuivius> smw: my Ipod that I have mounted is mounting as read only, i need to change it so it has read and write capability
[03:59] <MeanEYE> ilokas: can you rephrase that question with a little bit more details
[03:59] <smw> Vesuivius, that is caused by your ipod and not by linux.
[04:00] <smw> Vesuivius, http://davesource.com/Solutions/20080225.iPod-linux-read-only.html
[04:00] <smw> Vesuivius, google is great :-)
[04:00] <ankers> Hi guys, Can someone help me? :) no sound on ubuntu netbook on sony vaio but mainly need to get hdmi output to my tv but plug the cord in and nothing happens? works fine on windows..
[04:00] <Vesuivius> smw: thanks
[04:01] <ilokas> How do I manually edit the list of applications that start up automatically? I do not see the applications in the preferences -> start up programs (different name in english ubuntu)
[04:01] <smw> ankers, you plug in the cord and there is no video?
[04:01] <ankers> yeah my tv says searching for signals - but on windows7 its fine it comes straight up
[04:01] <smw> ankers, is there a video button?
[04:02] <smw> ankers, maybe one of the function keys has a rectangle with two bars on either side of it?
[04:02] <smw> ankers, on my HP laptop, it is f4
[04:02] <JeffDRO> Guys im trying to burn an ISO image that is a bootable CD. I burn it using brasero but when I try to boot off of it, it does not work
[04:03] <ankers> i have no idea what you mean lol
[04:03] <JeffDRO> what am i doing wrong
[04:03] <JeffDRO> it should be able to boot off but it does not work
[04:03] <ankers> oh ok, ill try that now
[04:03] <smw> ankers, do you have an HP?
[04:03] <ankers> sony vaio
[04:03] <smw> ankers, you found the symbol though?
[04:03] <JeffDRO> can anyone help me
[04:03] <LittleRed> JeffDRO... I'm assuming you did a data burn?
[04:03] <JeffDRO> littlered yes
[04:04] <JeffDRO> was that my problem?
[04:04] <smw> JeffDRO, you need to burn it as an image not data
[04:04] <JeffDRO> how do i burn it as an image?
[04:04] <ilokas> MeanEYE: Skype starts up by itself and also a text document and openoffice but I don't see them in the start up applications window under preferences
[04:04] <smw> JeffDRO, Look for something like "copy disk"
[04:04] <soreau> Hey guys, I cannot get apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade to complete. It fails with http://pastebin.com/u5ZvsHVb
[04:05] <smw> JeffDRO, or "burn image"
[04:05] <LittleRed> I made the mistake of burning iso to data on my MAC
[04:05] <JeffDRO> im using Furious ISO to burn the image
[04:05] <JeffDRO> it uses brasero and says burn image
[04:05] <JeffDRO> but after creating checksum
[04:05] <MeanEYE> ilokas: hm, weird... not sure how to help :/
[04:05] <JeffDRO> it doesn't burn
[04:05] <ankers> smw: i pressed all my F keys lol, in the taskbar were displays are i detect monitors but only laptop screen is on there.. is there somewhere i need to set the hdmi up?
[04:06] <ilokas> MeanEYE: Thank you for trieing
[04:06] <iggy19> So, seeing all the love for irssi (here too), I'm going to hope for some help with an irssi config issue that's been stumping me.
[04:06] <smw> ankers, did you press the fn key also?
[04:06] <JeffDRO> oh i think i got it to work
[04:06] <JeffDRO> its burning now
[04:06] <smw> ankers, let me find an image
[04:06] <MeanEYE> ilokas: ask again, someone might know
[04:06] <JeffDRO> says Burning Image to DVD
[04:07] <JeffDRO> should work right?
[04:07] <tripelb> hello. new phone - LG 900g., using USB cable. problems getting ubuntu to see it last night. had me to something to see the system errors code. I could not understand last night and too tired to learn it. Today I tried it in windows. Windows told me that it couldnt recognize it and I should disconnect and try it again and if it didnt work I should use another device. -- lastnight looked at fdisk and did - tail -f /var/log/syslog (results a
[04:07] <LittleRed> JeffDRO.. sounds right
[04:07] <fizyplankton> for all you irssi ppl, how do i close a "tab" so to speak? like a channel. how can i get it off the queye
[04:07] <MeanEYE> fizyplankton: /window close
[04:07] <ankers> i never knew there was an FN key? my F7 key says [LCD] but that didnt do anything
[04:08] <smw> ankers, odd :-\
[04:08] <MeanEYE> tripelb: is contents of your phone browsable from the phone itself?
[04:08] <tripelb> MeanEYE: yes
[04:08] <JeffDRO> bye bye ubuntu
[04:08] <JeffDRO> i need my windows to game
[04:08] <smw> ankers, FN+F8?
[04:09] <MeanEYE> JeffDRO: nooo, windoze is evil
[04:09] <JeffDRO> i need to play computer games!
[04:09] <LittleRed> JeffDRO install Wine
[04:09] <MeanEYE> tripelb: and windows is not seeing it as well?
[04:09] <gartral> JeffDRO: ubunru runs most games better than windows
[04:09] <smw> ankers, http://www.ehow.com/how_4794887_external-monitor-sony-vaio-laptop.html
[04:09] <LittleRed> or an emulator
[04:09] <iggy19> Basically, I've set up irssi to log me into two different servers, upon startup, each on different chatnets.  Want to identify for a different nick on the two different chatnets (preferred nick is owned on one of the nets), but irssi doesn't seem to hold onto the different nick settings -- that is, i'm iggy19 on both chatnets, despite my identify command apparently working for the other nick on the other net
[04:09] <smw> ankers, step 2
[04:10] <gartral> iggy19: try in #irssi
[04:10] <JeffDRO> gartral how do i run games?
[04:10] <soreau> I need some help with persistent live usb: I cannot get apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade to complete.  TF2 runs great in wine
[04:11] <JeffDRO> hmm
[04:11] <JeffDRO> maybe i wont be leaving ubuntu lol
[04:11] <gartral> JeffDRO: first step is too install wine.. then steam :)
[04:11] <nit-wit> soreau, you don't want kernel update on the persistent install
[04:11] <JeffDRO> gartral another reason i was going back to windows was because i need microsoft office for school
[04:11] <needle_> 23:11 -!- Irssi: Join to #ubuntu was synced in 1 secs
[04:11] <JeffDRO> gartral how can i run office in ubuntu?
[04:12] <soreau> nit-wit: Erm, I expect to be able to upgrade it
[04:12] <LittleRed> JeffDRO.. I use open office for work and just save in windows format
[04:12] <smw> !alternatives | JeffDRO
[04:12] <ankers> smw, i have no audio... i have played with alsa and nothing :( but it only really matters if i get picture/sound onto my tv threw hdmi because thats all i use... where is the FN key though? lol
[04:12] <smw> JeffDRO, wrong keyword :-\
[04:12] <gartral> JeffDRO: unless you need the encrypted docs portion of ms office, openoffice will open, and edit those docs..
[04:12] <soreau> nit-wit: At least, I expect apt to be able to complete upgrade
[04:12] <ankers> oh wait i found it
[04:12] <JeffDRO> littlered open office won't work, there are certain features i need that open office doesn't have
[04:12] <smw> ankers, next to the ctrl key
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> i want to be the verry best
[04:13] <LittleRed> JeffDRO...like what?
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> that no one ever was
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> to catch them is my real test
[04:13] <gartral> LittleRed: document security
[04:13] <speedrunnerG55> to train them is my cause
[04:13] <smw> JeffDRO, I have only found one feature that I missed not having on openoffice...
[04:13] <JeffDRO> like creating cover pages, formatting docs, cetain things that i cant do in open office
[04:14] <LittleRed> JeffDRO... you can password it.. and there are encryption tools out there
[04:14] <gartral> JeffDRO: both of those things are available in open office, you jet do them slightly differently
[04:14] <smw> JeffDRO, There are instructions for running it in wine probably. But I have to ask why you want to use linux...
[04:14] <JeffDRO> well im using linux for my programming class
[04:14] <JeffDRO> its a lot easier to use linux than windows
[04:14] <fizy[laptop]> true dat JeffDRO
[04:15] <gartral> smw: thats easy, it's leaner and meaner than windows ever hopes too be
[04:15] <smw> gartral, meaner to users :-P. (sorry, I had to say it)
[04:15] <JeffDRO> the only drawback is open office is giving me troubles with my assignments in my online classes
[04:15] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! I have a whale of a problem. I want to use a trial version of jacket with matlab. Problem: student version of matlab is only 32 bit, Ubuntu 10.10 is 64 bit, so Jacket uses 64 bit, can't read mex files. Does anyone have any experience with this issue?
[04:15] <smw> JeffDRO, how so?
[04:15] <ankers> smw, no luck.. :( ill try google some more
[04:15] <JeffDRO> thats why i wanted to go back to windows and then install ubuntu back dual boot
[04:16] <smw> ankers, ok, sorry :-(.
[04:16] <fizy[laptop]> lol. i never used word. i just used good ol' monospace font notepad
[04:16] <JeffDRO> well its cause word is a requirement for my class
[04:16] <fizy[laptop]> then that class has issues
[04:16] <JeffDRO> its an online college
[04:16] <smw> JeffDRO, dual boot is good. I still find that openoffice does everything I need for school.
[04:16] <gartral> JeffDRO: i would drop the class till they don't support Word anymore >.>
[04:16] <ankers> thats okay, i posted a thread on ubuntu forums so maybe someone will know on there
[04:17] <JeffDRO> most of the essay assignments are done in word
[04:17] <tripelb> MeanEYE: true windows sees it but knows it cant recognize it. (hopethat makes sense. == sorry for the delay, phone.
[04:17] <JeffDRO> and all of the classes require office
[04:17] <smw> JeffDRO, and? Why not use openoffice anyways
[04:17] <fizy[laptop]> go to wikiversity
[04:17] <smw> JeffDRO, it is compatable with word...
[04:17] <MeanEYE> tripelb: hm, he sees the device itself but filesystem is probably different, any settings on your phone about USB mode or something like that?
[04:18] <smw> JeffDRO, except polynomial regression in spreadsheet... I want that feature!
[04:18] <tripelb> MeanEYE: phone info says it should be transparent
[04:18] <iggy19> MeanEYE: I have a config file set up to issue my identify command to nickserv upon login, which works, but irssi only seems to "remember" on of the nicks.
[04:18] <LittleRed> JeffDRO, I'm a BSA and do all my reuirements in oen office... save as word format and no one in the office has ever noticed
[04:18] <tripelb> MeanEYE:  says it's easy, plug and play http://saveonprepaidphones.com/lg900g_file_transfer_data_cable
[04:19] <LittleRed> wow, I can't type worth shit with acrylic nails!
[04:19] <MeanEYE> iggy19: http://blog.dhampir.no/content/irssi-auto-connect-and-auto-identify
[04:19] <soreau> nit-wit: Is there a way to hold ack all kernel packages so apt-get upgrade will succeed on persistent live usb?
[04:19] <soreau> back*
[04:19] <tripelb> littlerad, someone should make bumpers to fit on your fingers, over the tips, to protect the nails.
[04:20]  * tripelb laffs at sven's svennick
[04:20] <LittleRed> tripelb... I wish.... but hey, thy look awesome!
[04:20] <soreau> LittleRed: not from here
[04:21] <soreau> thy looke leik mispelliengs
[04:21] <ankers> smw, maybe it would help if i install my nvidia drivers first lol, i know its nvidia geforce but not sure what else, is there a way to detect it? seeing as nvidia only supports auto detection on there website for windows
[04:21] <Anon31> which is better? open office, or libreoffice?
[04:21] <nit-wit> soreau, not sure why the upgrade is not working, the kernels can be ticked off in update manager
[04:21] <soreau> nit-wit: ugh, ok
[04:21] <MeanEYE> Anon31: LibreOffice, better support for MS Office files... also it's the right way to go :D
[04:21] <LittleRed> soreau... sorry... but I don't resemle Garcia from Criminal Minds... more like Abby from NCIS
[04:21] <smw> ankers alt+f2 then type gksu jockey-gtk
[04:22] <nit-wit> soreau, your familiar that this type of install has limitations, it is mainly just running gthe ISO
[04:22] <Anon31> oh yeah... i have the exact same problem, for my Acer Aspire M1660
[04:22] <soreau> LittleRed: Anyone anywhere that watches any of those shows is shallow so
[04:22] <Anon31> video drivers...
[04:22] <tripelb> meaneye thanks for reminding me of the name libreoffice. openoffice never works for me. I rank it right up there with Synaptic.
[04:22] <tripelb> down there
[04:22] <smw> ankers, or system -> administration -> additional drivers
[04:23] <MeanEYE> tripelb: np :D...
[04:23] <soreau> nit-wit: No, I'm not. This is my first experience really messing with booting persistent live usb
[04:23] <LittleRed> soreau... thats ok, it's only background noise... I spend most of my days and nights on the 'puter
[04:23] <Anon31> hey, i said Libre office first... :(
[04:23] <ankers> swm, cool, its downloading it now :D
[04:23] <soreau> LittleRed: To buntu-ot with you
[04:23] <Guest13259> I just installed 10.10 with wubi, I've let it update and download ati driverers. After rebooting my bootscreen is not tha ubuntu logo + text and while/orange dots. It's pixelated text 10.10 and the bots are now squares. Like the resolution changed to a lower one
[04:24] <bc81> any milkytracker users in here?  i need help getting it to recognize my input device in Ubuntu 10.10 (http://www.ionaudio.com/discoverkeyboardusb).  the keyboard works in other programs (VMPK, Piano Booster etc.) but not milky (v0.90.85).  any suggestions?
[04:25] <ankers> smw, i need to restart now.. i'll be back shortly as i think im slowly getting there ;D thank you very much
[04:25] <LittleRed> soreau... geez a littl break here...   Going to move to #irssi.  Feel free to follow.  Thanks!
[04:27] <Fiveways> I screwed up when installing ubuntu and overwrote my windows bootloader. I repaired it, updated grub to get it to recognize the windows installation, but when I boot I never see the grub list, it goes straight into ubuntu. any way I can force grub to show itself on boot?
[04:27] <MeanEYE> iggy19: you have fun there :P
[04:27] <skxx> bc81: i use milky but i have no idea how to help you out man.. srry
[04:27] <AnubArack> .ns identify qazqaz
[04:27] <MeanEYE> tripelb: hm, am not quite sure... which OS is on that phone?
[04:27] <AnubArack> ffffffffff
[04:27] <AnubArack> great
[04:27] <tripelb> meaneye maybe it's a bad phone. I want one picture off of it, sob. I was going to return it anyway. I have another one on order, skip story.
[04:28] <FarkingBish> !identify > Guest99836
[04:28] <bc81> skxx: no worries..i'm pulling my hair trying to get it working :-)
[04:28] <iggy19> MeanEYE: we'll see.  ;-)
[04:28] <tripelb> meaneye, it's a java phone.  I could google how to I suppose.
[04:29] <bc81> skxx: well, i have the MIDI keyboard plugged in via USB.  everything works fine (i can use it in other programs that accept MIDI input) but it won't work in MilyTracker.
[04:29] <tripelb> LG 900g  http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/straighttalk/home.seam?custId=STLG900G&locale=en_US  and  http://saveonprepaidphones.com/lg900g_file_transfer_data_cable
[04:29] <AnubArack> so hate it when that happens
[04:29] <MeanEYE> tripelb: :D open synaptic, find open office and remove everything :D
[04:29] <bc81> i know it's possible, from google searching i can't don't know how it's done
[04:29] <AnubArack> tnx for the assist FarkingBish
[04:30] <FarkingBish> np
[04:30] <AnubArack> i guess i need to go to sleep
[04:30] <AnubArack> fut i want to fix this problem first
[04:30] <bc81> skxx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1420392
[04:31] <AnubArack> I just installed 10.10 with wubi, I've let it update and download ati drivers. After rebooting my bootscreen is not tha ubuntu logo + text and while/orange dots. It's pixelated text 10.10 and the bots are now squares. Like the resolution changed to a lower one
[04:31] <tripelb> meaneye your answer just before telling me about synaptic.  (I want to do it in terminal. I have a heckle with synaptic. we come from different worlds. It just annoys me. I have never made it work. yadda yadda) Apt-Forget maybe?
[04:31] <MeanEYE> tripelb: give me a moment to dig out the package name
[04:31] <LittleRed> anubArack... what video card do you have?
[04:32] <AnubArack> Lithrem, Ati Radeon 4600 series
[04:32] <MeanEYE> tripelb: sudo apt-get purge openoffice.org && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:32] <MeanEYE> tripelb: that should do it
[04:32] <AnubArack> oups wrong tab
[04:32] <LittleRed> is it identified by the OS?
[04:32] <MeanEYE> if not, you need to kill every package manually
[04:32] <AnubArack> LittleRed, ati radeon 4670
[04:33] <tripelb> meaneye, np. I will go and take some chinese medicine.. oh that was fast. and now for the phone. (It's so good that I copied the entire discussion from last night.) I was sick and now I'm weller!
[04:33] <LittleRed> hummm, there is command lne to set the resolution...but I've had too much to drink and can't think of it
[04:33] <nit-wit> Fiveways, did you get back into a working setup?
[04:34] <MeanEYE> tripelb: also you can apt-get purge openoffice.org*
[04:35] <tripelb> meaneye ? Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed
[04:35] <tripelb>  -- but it shows in the menu
[04:36] <tripelb> meaneye - hot. that did it.
[04:36] <jiltdil> how to use ssh in wan ?
[04:36] <smw> jiltdil, define "wan"
[04:37] <jiltdil> wide area network
[04:37] <tripelb> meaneye, I'm a cli kind of girl in some ways. It's clean. I remember in the wayback, haha, avoiding learning any JCL. That dates me, eh?
[04:37] <smw> jiltdil, I do not understand what you mean "ssh in wan"
[04:37] <AnubArack> LittleRed, something with # GRUB_GFXMODE ?
[04:38] <LittleRed> AnubArack... give me a sec to get the book
[04:38] <jiltdil> SiiW: ok u don't take tntion
[04:39] <tripelb> meaneye, I've a need to find a teaching book that suits me. learning about linux from an intelligent understanding -not lists of stuff reference- way. Think the mind of early macintoshers. Caltech. I look and look but it's not clear "what does a kernel do?" it's either a gloss or I'm stuck in quicksand
[04:39] <jiltdil> !ssh
[04:39] <LittleRed> AnubArack... have you tried restricted drivers>
[04:40] <LittleRed> I had an icon in the top menu bar... and when I clicked it it opened a window with restriced drivers I could use
[04:41] <AnubArack> LittleRed,  the proprietary ones form ati/amsd
[04:41] <AnubArack> I have those
[04:42] <schibidumm> loeli
[04:42] <AnubArack> LittleRed, http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/29tbdb0y/AdditionalDrivers_001.png
[04:43] <StepNjump> Oh ActionParsnip isn't here tonight? Hi everyone!
[04:43] <StepNjump> Hi Chipzzz
[04:44] <AnubArack> LittleRed, is this any good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfwVWU84cnQ ?
[04:44] <LittleRed> AnubArack try googling command line resolution change in Ubuntu
[04:44] <Zmathews> hello ?
[04:45] <Zmathews> hello ?
[04:45] <StepNjump> Hi guys, I have a USB Wifi dongle. Strangely it works when I have Ubuntu to run under 'trial mode' but after having Ubuntu Maverick installed, it doesn't detect the chipset
[04:45] <Zmathews> anyone going to talk ?
[04:45] <bazhang> Zmathews, ubuntu support question?
[04:45] <StepNjump> hi zmathews... sometimes people sleep
[04:45] <Trae> gnome3...  wut?
[04:45] <nit-wit> Zmathews, stae your problem no hello's
[04:45] <LittleRed> AnubArack... the first time I installed the nvidia driver on my desktop I did it all through command line
[04:46] <LittleRed> I just can't remember the commands
[04:46] <LittleRed> but it is out there
[04:46] <StepNjump> take notes next time!
[04:46] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: check if you have usb-modeswitch package isntalled
[04:46] <StepNjump> tnx MeanEye... I'll chk
[04:46] <Trae> is there a general chat channel where we can takl about things in Ubuntu without messing up #ubuntu?
[04:46] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic Trae
[04:46] <MeanEYE> Trae: ubuntu-offtopic
[04:47] <Trae> hmm ok.
[04:47] <Trae> kinda want to talk about ubuntu but thanks ;)
[04:47] <maco> Trae: its just the not-tech-support channel
[04:47] <maco> Trae: if you want to talk about like....new themes or features or whatever, -ot is good
[04:49] <ankers> smn, holy crap! LOL it updated to nvidia driver, i boot up and my screen is all messed up, like 2 screens and i cant do anything, so i logged on using gnome and i cant see anything... just a black screen, so i plugged in hdmi and it worked, but i cant see the menu all i have is a desktop the resolution is obviously to high and i cant change it, im in recovery mode with networking on irssi atm.. is there a way i can remove the nvidia driver?
[04:50] <AnubArack> ankers, you don't need to remove the drivers, you need to set your resolutions right
[04:51] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578670/
[04:52] <ankers> can i do that by shell in recovery mode? i cant see the menu or anything in gnome so i cant get a shell up or the display pannel
[04:52] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: damn :/
[04:52] <LittleRed> ankers... I had to do that...google command line driver purge
[04:52] <teage> where is the (inode/directory) located at?
[04:52] <MeanEYE> StepNjump: can you see your device with lsusb command?
[04:53] <teage> im trying to determine where the heck the mount is for my ipod
[04:53] <teage> its mounting but i cant find its mounting point
[04:54] <gartral> teage: as a drive device?
[04:54] <StepNjump> What do you mean damn MeanEYE?
[04:54] <teage> gartral- not sure
[04:54] <teage> i checked the mnt directory and media directory and there is nothing there
[04:54] <gartral> teage: sudo fdisk -l
[04:55] <ankers> im not in any xwindow, just at the boot menu logged in and in irssi can i change gnomes resolution by command
[04:55] <StepNjump> Yep, it's listed MeanEYE: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:815c Belkin Components F5D8053 N Wireless USB Adapter v3000 [Ralink RT2870]
[04:56] <teage> gartral- the command you gave shows linux  and linux swap but there is one that says extended too
[04:56] <teage> sda2
[04:56] <gartral> teage: weird.. im not sure what too tell you
[04:57] <teage> shouldnt there be a mounting point to all devises? gartral
[04:57] <gartral> teage: yes, that's /media/
[04:58] <StepNjump> MeanEYE, how do you install the  usb-modeswitch package? Is it supposed to install from the main ubuntu repository simply with agt-get install?
[04:58] <StepNjump> oh, it's already installed! ok MeanEYE
[04:58] <suprbly> how goes it ubuntu fans
[04:58] <teage> gartral- thats what i thought but its just not there, guess it means more google hours on my part. lol. thanks for all the help though
[04:59] <gartral> teage: which ipod, just wondering
[04:59] <teage> gartral- ipod touch 2nd generation
[04:59] <dribble> how can I tell if my system is being monitored
[04:59] <StepNjump> Sorry MeanEYE. If you wrote something, I didn't read it because I disconnected
[04:59] <ankers> can someone please tell me the command line to remove the nvidia driver :( :(
[05:00] <soreau> ankers: Depends on how you installed it
[05:00] <StepNjump> MeanEYE: It's weird that it worked on the trial mode!
[05:00] <LittleRed> dribble... I wrote a custom port scanner
[05:00] <jiltdil> if i connected through ssh with a computer in lan then how to copy  data from that computer?
[05:01] <dribble> littlered what does that do
[05:01] <ankers> i didnt get it from the site, i did it from the ubuntu driver update
[05:01] <soreau> ankers: jiltdil You don't need ssh. Use scp
[05:01] <teage> gartral- like i said, it mounts just fine and i can sync in rythmbox too, but to add photos i have to use gtkpod and i need to manually mount for that. since it auto mounts when i plug it in i was thinking i could direct gtkpod to the location of the mount.
[05:01] <LittleRed> it checks to see if someone has 'touched 'the ports... then I close them off
[05:02] <soreau> ankers: sys>admin>additional drivers>remove
[05:02] <dribble> yeah i get parnoid and just disconnect my wireless card
[05:02] <teage> gartral-wishful thinking i guess. thanks anyway
[05:02] <ankers> no no i need a command line, i cant get into X because the driver messed up my screen lol
[05:02] <DanaG> Say, how the heck are the ARROW KEYS considered "typing"?
[05:02] <dribble> ankers i've had the same problem but you should be able to boot in safe graphics mode
[05:03] <DanaG> Whenever I press an arrow key, Gnome freezes my touchpad.
[05:03] <soreau> dribble: You can't really tell if there's someone watching, only if they make requests to your router and/or system