[00:03] <DivingApple> I am in need of some help with repairing GRUB. I have encrypted my drive with SDA5 encryption and when GRUB boots normally and shows the password entry screen, I can't type. I can boot successfully via recovery mode
[00:03] <DivingApple> I've tried using BootRepair and it was unsuccessful
[00:04] <mixer93kg> hey i need some help, whe i try ubuntu livecd sound works but when i installed it, doesnt work
[00:05] <tomreyn> !sound | mixer93kg
[00:06] <tomreyn> DivingApple: what is "SDA5 encryption"?
[00:06] <CoderEurope> !PLAYERS
[00:07] <tomreyn> DivingApple: maybe you're referring to sda5, the fifth partition on your first hard disk.
[00:08] <tomreyn> DivingApple: which exact ubuntu version (should contian two dots) did you install?
[00:08] <mixer93kg> 16.04
[00:09] <DivingApple> I have installed 16.04 right now
[00:09] <tomreyn> 16.04.0 or 16.04.1 ?
[00:09] <DivingApple> I think the encryption is LUKS but I'm not certain. Its the full-disk encryption option they give you at initial installation
[00:09] <mixer93kg> i dont get it how it works on livecd but not when installed
[00:09] <tomreyn> DivingApple: the exact version number does not matter in case you fully upgraded it after installation.
[00:10] <tomreyn> mixer93kg: did you try the suggestions ubottu provided?
[00:10] <stan_man_can> Is it possible to make gmail my default mail client?
[00:10] <DivingApple> how can I easily check my version number?
[00:11] <tomreyn> DivingApple: in a terminal, type: lsb_release -d
[00:12] <DivingApple> typing in lsb release -d finds no command
[00:12] <tomreyn> type in "terminal", then run it. then in that type: lsb_release -d
[00:12] <\9> DivingApple: it's lsb_release with an underscore
[00:12] <DivingApple> nvm. I got it 16.04.1
[00:17] <yumbox> if i want to have an Ubuntu 14.04 installation, can I upgrade packages?
[00:18] <SchrodingersScat> !14.04
[00:18] <DivingApple> So I'm running 16.04.1 and when during the install wizard I encrypted my entire drive. Normally after I select Ubuntu in GRUB, it pulls up an 'enter password' screen, and I type in a password. However, recently I have been unable to type when that screen pulls up and am required to boot into recovery mode and type the password in there
[00:19] <yumbox> SchrodingersScat: that doesn't answer my question.
[00:19] <DivingApple> Sorry I was asking my own question, not trying to answer yours
[00:19] <SchrodingersScat> yumbox: it mentions support for 5 years, expect that to be security updates, etc. if you need !latest then see that.
[00:19] <DivingApple> whoops nvm
[00:20] <OerHeks> yumbox, yes, it is a supported LTS, so servers are up
[00:21] <yumbox> OerHeks: hmm, okay.
[00:21] <Sweepyoface> doesn't mean you shouldn't upgrade though
[00:21] <yumbox> after upgrading, I can't login anymore.
[00:22] <Sweepyoface> That tells us nothing
[00:22] <yumbox> the login manager sort of works, but after entering my password, the screen flashes, and im back at the login manager again.
[00:24] <yumbox> dmesg shows compiz having a segfault.
[00:24] <yumbox> after removing compiz, i can login, but i can get a completely blue screen except for the mouse cursor.
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[00:28] <xar-> .xyz is a tld now eh?
[00:28] <xar-> noice
[00:28] <yumbox> has been for a while
[00:29] <xar-> shrug, I live under a rock
[00:30] <xar-> glad to see people are using it wisely though
[00:31] <yumbox> pretty funny that the first time i try ubuntu in years, its a piece of shit
[00:31] <bazhang> yumbox, no cursing here
[00:31] <xar-> that's erm, productive
[00:32] <nicomachus> xar-: this is a family friendly channel.
[00:32] <xar-> huh?
[00:32] <nicomachus> sorry, meant to direct that at yumbox
[00:33] <yumbox> piece of doodoo?
[00:34] <bazhang> yumbox, please stay on topic here
[00:34] <bazhang> chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic yumbox
[00:35] <xar-> interestingly, I just decided to give the latest ubuntu a whirl in vbox, shutdown post-install, it's hung (in vbox)
[00:35] <xar-> no valid rapl domains found in package 0
[00:36] <xar-> 10/10 on the error message quality, would read again :D
[00:38] <xar-> ok, the bar on the left side of the screen (fresh install), there a way to move that thing
[00:38] <bazhang> xar-, is this unity
[00:38] <yumbox> https://askubuntu.com/questions/435623/problem-after-update-blue-screen-with-only-the-mouse-cursor#436054
[00:38] <xar-> whatever the default install provides, I have no idea
[00:38] <yumbox> this brings me one step closer
[00:38] <yumbox> but still no desktop
[00:40] <yumbox> guest login works now, but user login doesnt.
[00:42] <xar-> also is there a way to prevent maximizing a window being absorbed into the primary task bar, that doesn't sit well with me
[00:42] <Sweepyoface> Cron keeps giving me /bin/sh: 1: Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting ")")
[00:43] <bekks> Sweepyoface: So show us your crontab entry.
[00:43] <Sweepyoface> https://hasteb.in/faliduqosi.pl
[00:44] <xar-> there's an amazon icon... what's that doing there? anyone know what the package is called that controls that?
[00:44] <xar-> that needs to go too
[00:44] <nicomachus> xar-: System Settings --> Privacy
[00:44] <nicomachus> xar-: what version of ubuntu?
[00:45] <xar-> 1604
[00:45] <gosta> if I want a dns. Where can i get a domain name for free ?`
[00:45] <yumbox> duckdns or nsupdate
[00:45] <Sweepyoface> You can get domains for like $1/yr
[00:45] <nicomachus> xar-: ok. Amazon scopes (and any others) should be disabled by default.
[00:46] <xar-> why is it even there though... lol
[00:46] <nicomachus> xar-: you can also completely remove them with package names unity-scope-* and unity-lens-*
[00:46] <gosta> ok.. i´ll check it out
[00:46] <gosta> ty
[00:46] <yumbox> xar-: money grab gone wrong
[00:46] <Sweepyoface> bekks, looks right to me, works when I do it in the terminal https://hasteb.in/raw/faliduqosi
[00:46] <nicomachus> yumbox: no.
[00:46] <nicomachus> !fud | yumbox
[00:46] <bazhang> yumbox, please stop with the chit chat here
[00:47] <yumbox> someone asks a question, i answered it.
[00:47] <yumbox> that's not chitchat.
[00:47] <bazhang> thats enough yumbox
[00:47] <bekks> Sweepyoface: BEsides the fact that your crontab shell doesn not have any environment variables set, not it is using bash. Create a bash shell script, use full path names, and run your script in the cron tab.
[00:47]  * xar- rubs yumbox, I appweciate joo
[00:48] <Sweepyoface> Well I can't really use echo like that in a script
[00:48] <bekks> Sweepyoface: Why not?
[00:48] <Sweepyoface> It just prints to stdout
[00:48] <Sweepyoface> the whole line
[00:48] <bazhang> this is support only xar-
[00:48] <bekks> Sweepyoface: Then fix your line.
[00:49] <bekks> Sweepyoface: Aint a big deal.
[00:49] <Sweepyoface> hold on
[00:49] <xar-> what happened, I got disconnected, I have joins, parts, quits, all suppressed
[00:49] <bekks> Sweepyoface: And use printf instead of echo.
[00:49] <Sweepyoface> I want the newline
[00:50] <bekks> Sweepyoface: You can have a newline using printf as well.
[00:50] <Sweepyoface> It'll do the same thing as echo though
[00:51] <Sweepyoface> oh wait a minute
[00:51] <yumbox> is there a shortcut to logout?
[00:51] <Sweepyoface> nvm, got it working
[00:51] <Sweepyoface> thanks
[00:51] <bekks> Sweepyoface: yw
[00:52] <xar-> alright, so anyways, it would seem unity is incompatible with my goals, how do I remove unity and replace it with something more... traditional?
[00:52] <bazhang> install gnome-shell xar-
[00:52] <xar-> alright, and how do I do that
[00:52] <bazhang> via apt xar-
[00:53] <joegiampaoli> Hello, trying to install nvidia legacy 304.132 from additional drivers. Card is integrated GeForce 6100 nForce 405, glxinfo & glxgears keep spitting the following error: "X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"
[00:53] <xangua> Well gnome shell is no more "traditional"than unity
[00:54] <xar-> and... it's broken lol
[00:55] <joegiampaoli> Also programs like blender that require gl freeze...
[01:04] <sruli> hi, i just upgraded to a new amd radeon graphics card with 3 displays, (ubuntu 14.04) it does not recognise that i have 3 displays, how can i check if i have the open source drivers installed?
[01:05] <yumbox> okay, finally ive fixed it.
[01:05] <yumbox> ive you install Ubuntu 14.04 and upgrade all packages and unity stops working, this is what helped me: https://askubuntu.com/questions/476100/unity-and-the-tray-are-not-displayed-after-login
[01:07] <Fritigern> I have a bit of an issue. I did a fresh install of Kubuntu 16.10, but now most of my ports seem to be blocked. Before I did the reinstall, this was not the case. I have a couple of port ranges which I wish to open for a few different services that I am running. For example, I would like to SSH to my machine on port 22, and have a game server running on port 31294 (or there abouts)
[01:07] <nchambers> Fritigern, are they available over localhost?
[01:08] <Fritigern> To be clear, this is NOT a router issue, my router did not see a config change in a very long time. To make certain it's not the router I went back and double checked and the router's config hasn't changed.
[01:08] <Fritigern> Yes they are. Just not from the internet, like they were before my reinstall
[01:08] <nchambers> could be that your ISP started blocking those ports
[01:09] <nchambers> do you have ipfw, pf, or ufw installed?
[01:09] <Fritigern> I used http://mxtoolbox.com to do a quick portscan, and only port 80 seems to be working
[01:09] <Fritigern> *connectable
[01:10] <Fritigern> II only have the default stuffs, so UFW which is disabled by default
[01:10] <nchambers> right, so you either have a firewall or your ISP is blocking those ports
[01:10] <Fritigern> But to make sure i did sudo ufw disable, but that changed nothing
[01:10] <nchambers> then its probably your ISP
[01:11] <Fritigern> How can I tell?
[01:11] <nchambers> ask them
[01:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello everyone. Friendly Ubuntu core channel op speaking. Just a quick reminder to all of you that we're a channel specifically for Ubuntu support, not discussion or chitchat. #ubuntu-discuss is for on-topic discussion about Ubuntu and its many features; #ubuntu-offtopic is for chit-chat. For more, see the !ot factoid. Thanks!
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[01:17] <Guest81511> how do i instal ubintu
[01:18] <Guest81511> ubuntu
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest81511: Do you have a Live image?
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> !live
[01:19] <sruli> ubuntu 14.04 when i boot i have no usb (no keyboard), i always need to select my 3.16 kernel, how can i get usb to work on newer kernel?
[01:19] <deadmund> Is it possible to run a bash script when I turn my monitor (an HDTV connected via HDMI) on / off?
[01:19] <yumbox> what can I do to disable all remote services on a 14.04 ubuntu install?
[01:20] <deadmund> yumbox: "remote" service?
[01:20] <deadmund> yumbox: What are you referring to?
[01:20] <Disaster_Area> anyone know of a simple and sensible way to have my wallpaper change every minute or whatever etc. like a slideshow?
[01:20] <yumbox> deadmund: amazon, ebay, error report sending. basically any remote connection that i havent initiated manually.
[01:21] <deadmund> Disaster_Area: Have you tried this?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/134/how-do-i-create-a-desktop-wallpaper-slideshow
[01:21] <deadmund> yumbox: Well, there is no one single command.  One thing you could do is turn off your Internet connection.  But, I'm guessing that's a dealbreaker.
[01:21] <Disaster_Area> I'll have a look thx
[01:21] <yumbox> deadmund: yeah, haha.
[01:22] <deadmund> yumbox: You can run netstat -tupn to see a list of all current network connections.
[01:22] <deadmund> yumbox: Then you can look at tcpdump -X -i eth0 (assuming ethernet connection) to get more info
[01:23] <deadmund> Disaster_Area: sure
[01:23] <deadmund> Is it possible to run a bash script when I turn my monitor (an HDTV connected via HDMI) on / off?
[01:23] <netcrash> hello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?
[01:23] <yumbox> deadmund: that's kinda impractical. i already remove the ebay unity things. and ive disabled everything in the system settings under privacy.
[01:24] <yumbox> is that enough?
[01:24] <Sweepyoface> deadmund, your computer doesn't know when you turn it on/off
[01:24] <Sweepyoface> only if you unplug the HDMI cable
[01:24] <sruli> ubuntu 14.04 when i boot i have no usb (no keyboard), i always need to select my 3.16 kernel, how can i get usb to work on newer kernel?
[01:25] <deadmund> yumbox: Are you concerned about network connections in general or privacy specifically?
[01:25] <deadmund> Sweepyoface: shiiiit.  K thx
[01:25] <yumbox> deadmund: privacy.
[01:26] <deadmund> yumbox: https://fixubuntu.com/
[01:26] <Disaster_Area> deadmund, that was great found a nice way to to do it with shotwell
[01:26] <Disaster_Area> ty
[01:26] <deadmund> Disaster_Area: No problem.  Glad you got it working!
[01:26] <xar-> fyi, removing unity and installing gnome-shell didn't work, it just drops me to a shell upon restart
[01:27] <yumbox> deadmund: pretty ridiculous that you need a third party tool to not have your data send to canonical. but thanks for the link!
[01:27] <Sweepyoface> i think you're overly paranoid
[01:28] <deadmund> yumbox: The third party tool is just an easy way to turn it off.  But yeah, the dash search stuff is controversial to say the least
[01:29] <xar-> it kinda sounds like O&O ShutUp 10, to disable all the microsoft telemtry stuff, nice link too deadmund
[01:30] <deadmund> xar-: 0&0 ??
[01:30] <xar-> www.oo-software.com
[01:31] <xar-> (don't work for them, they make some nice apps tho)
[01:31] <xar-> I was simply comparing the tooling you mentioned to it, since it jogged my memory
[01:32] <Sweepyoface> > not FOSS
[01:33] <xar-> omg there's an ubuntu mate fork
[01:33] <xar-> holy cheeseballs batman, why didn't you guys say so
[01:33] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic trusty | netcrash
[01:34] <xar-> here I am trying to shoehorn unity and someone's already done the work with packaging MATE, sigh
[01:35] <sruli> i need some help with amd graphics card, it doesnt recognise that i have 3 displays, how do i see if the kernel identifies the card correctly, (want to try opensource first) ubuntu 14.04
[01:47] <imhs> 我尝试着安装了oh_my_zsh，按说它是和bash兼容的，但是在运行一个shell脚本的时候，抛出了command not found: complete,有什么解决办法吗
[01:49] <bazhang> imhs, here is english
[01:49] <bazhang> !cn | imhs
[01:53] <zzero1> question why the kill in this http://pastebin.com/NE39ChgN commands gives me kill: you need to specify whom to kill ?
[01:53] <nicomachus> xar-: honestly don't know how someone could not know about Ubuntu MATE, but ok.
[01:54] <nicomachus> a quick google search would have gotten you to the project page.
[01:57] <sruli> i need some help with amd graphics card, it doesnt recognise that i have 3 displays, how do i see if the kernel identifies the card correctly, (want to try opensource first) ubuntu 14.04
[01:58] <allspork> question: A package seems to be intermittently removed after reboot. Any idea? It's vim (compiled from source) that is installed with check install. I reinstalle the package locally and it works, but it should stay installed.
[01:59] <Amm0n> sruli, lspci -nnk |grep VGA -A3
[02:00] <sruli> Amm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645804/
[02:01] <Amm0n> sruli, if you use this command without piping it through a pastebin gives more output?
[02:02] <sruli> Amm0n: did not pipe it, i copied and pasted it
[02:02] <Amm0n> sruli, oh wait a sec pls
[02:03] <sruli> Amm0n: before it showed less, but i tried to install the propitiatory drivers (failed unmet dependencies) and now it shows a secnd line
[02:06] <Amm0n> sruli, try lshw -c video
[02:08] <sruli> Amm0n: PCI (sysfs), thats all i get
[02:08] <Amm0n> sruli, Ubuntu version?
[02:08] <sruli> Amm0n: sorry, after a few secs i got more http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645844/ v 14.04
[02:15] <Amm0n> sruli, mach mal ein "sudo lspci -v -s 02:00.0"
[02:16] <Amm0n> sruli, oh sry in english: pls do the command above :P
[02:16] <netcrash> hello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?
[02:17] <sruli> Amm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645870/ - i understand a little german ;-)
[02:19] <Amm0n> sruli, it's a RX 460 right?
[02:19] <sruli> Amm0n: yes
[02:21] <imhs> Rookie question: Install the driver and configuration can use multiple monitors, right?
[02:21] <Amm0n> sruli, you are at this machine at the moment and have X working?
[02:22] <sruli> yes
[02:22] <sruli> Amm0n: ^
[02:23] <localhost_> ...
[02:25] <gosta> Hi. Im having problems with my crontab, cant make changes in it. even if im su..
[02:25] <Amm0n> sruli, only one Display is getting recognized?
[02:26] <Amm0n> imhs, yes you can, in many cases without installing anything
[02:26] <sruli> Amm0n: yes, 2 are on in mirror mode, 3rd is off, in display settings it only see one
[02:27] <sruli> Amm0n: thansk for helping, really desperate here
[02:29] <sruli> Amm0n: going for a reboot, 2-3 minutes
[02:30] <imhs> sruli, Did you try the xrandr command?
[02:41] <sruli> Amm0n: i'm back, any ideas how i can sort my graphics issue?
[02:42] <Antovsn> Да
[02:42] <Antovsn> Куку
[02:42] <Amm0n> sruli, i think your problem is that proper amdgpu support for your card comes with 16.04
[02:43] <bazhang> !ru | Antovsn
[02:43] <sruli> Amm0n: what about opensource?
[02:44] <timer1> Hi, I think I broke my linux totaly, may sombody can help me? My problem is about libs, package dependencies and a broken apt i think
[02:44] <Amm0n> sruli, let's see what "xrand" tells us
[02:45] <Ben64> timer1: describe your situation in detail to find out
[02:45] <sruli> Amm0n: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23645949/
[02:46] <timer1> I started an upgrade of my linux and something went wrong i don't know why. At the moment I have an conflict of the libstdc++6, some package need the one of ubuntu 14.04 others of 16.04
[02:47] <Amm0n> sruli, not so much :/
[02:48] <timer1> Further more I, purged the  libstdc++6:amd64 and now apt only answer with "error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:49] <timer1> wasn't a good idea, i know
[02:50] <sruli> Amm0n: i am not ready to upgrade to 16.03, too much of my config will break with systemd, do i give up on this card?
[02:50] <imhs> http://support.amd.com/zh-cn/download/desktop?os=Ubuntu+x86+64
[02:50] <Amm0n> sruli, do you have a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf or any VGA related .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?
[02:52] <sruli> Amm0n: no, dont even have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ dir
[02:53] <sruli> Amm0n: i dont see any .conf files in /etc/X11
[02:54] <imhs> I want to help, but English is not good, （⊙O⊙）…
[02:54] <sruli> Amm0n: found /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe
[02:55] <snowstorm> is it possible to connect a ubuntu server to an OpenVPN service (located onto a distant server)?
[02:56] <sruli> snowstorm: regular vpn connection, what the question
[02:57] <sruli> Amm0n: is it possible i am currently in failsafe mode? the res is 1920x1080 but no option to chang eit even to a lower one
[02:57] <imhs> sruli, you need shadowsocks
[02:57] <snowstorm> sruli: yes a regular vpn connection.  how should i start to connect my server to my vpn service
[02:58] <sruli> snowstorm: you have openvpn client installed on the server?
[02:59] <sruli> imhs: what is shadowsocks?
[02:59] <snowstorm> sruli: i can connect to distant server when in gui mode.  just can't succeed when using my home server (cli mode)
[03:00] <sruli> snowstorm: how are you trying from the cli?
[03:01] <snowstorm> sruli: i've installed openvpn, than started it pointing to my openvpn.conf file received from server which point to ca, key, etc files
[03:01] <sruli> Amm0n: i guess upgrade to 16.04 is my only way forward
[03:01] <Amm0n> sruli, you could try to use a modified xorg.conf. But this one is a little hard to me to walk someone through.
[03:02] <Amm0n> like so: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/multihead
[03:02] <sruli> Amm0n: for me that would be so much easier then a upgrade
[03:02] <sruli> Amm0n: will read it nw
[03:02] <sruli> snowstorm: how do you try to connect from cli?
[03:02] <Amm0n> sruli, the Configuration using xorg.conf part
[03:03] <snowstorm> sruli: sudo openvpn client.conf
[03:03] <sruli> snowstorm: ubuntu 16.04?
[03:04] <sruli> Amm0n: i give up already, will upgrade to 16.04, really worried about the stuff that will break
[03:04] <imhs> Even if it can work, but the screen resolution still makes you headache
[03:04] <snowstorm> sruli: 14.04.4
[03:04] <Amm0n> sruli, what stuff are you worried about?
[03:06] <sruli> Amm0n: i have a service running in init.d which starts and mounts zfs raid 5 on luks.. i know in 16.04 init has been replaced with  systemd
[03:06] <sruli> snowstorm: try without sudo "nmcli con up id <cpn name>"
[03:06] <Amm0n> sruli, writing systemd service files is no withcrafting
[03:06] <Amm0n> *c
[03:07] <sruli> Amm0n: before i tried to install the amd propitiatory drivers, it failed, but before i upgrade i want to remove the packages it installed, whats the best way to find and remove?
[03:08] <sruli> snowstorm: that worked?
[03:09] <snowstorm> sruli: trying now
[03:09] <imhs> Synaptic Package Manager
[03:09] <sruli> Amm0n: to upgrade all i need is "do-release-upgrade" ?
[03:13] <Amm0n> sruli, if something failed upgrading: sudo dpkg --configure -a & sudo apt-get -f install & sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:13] <Amm0n> to upgrade to 16.04 backup your stuff and sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:14] <sruli> Amm0n: thanks
[03:15] <sruli> snowstorm: did you manage to connect?
[03:15] <snowstorm> sruli: no it hand and do not connect
[03:15] <sruli> snowstorm: what error did you get?
[03:16] <Amm0n> sruli, ah i forgot ppa-purge^ if there are any
[03:16] <sruli> Amm0n: the upgrade disables ppa's from what i see
[03:18] <Amm0n> sruli, good luck, i got to go now. Bye.
[03:18] <snowstorm> sruli: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager......
[03:19] <snowstorm> sruli: followed by nmcli (<IP_ADDRESS>) and MetworkManager (unknown) version don't match....
[03:24] <sruli> snowstorm: if you want you can upgrade to a new version of network-manager (not supported by ubuntu) i use it it wirks much better then the ubuntu version https://launchpad.net/~lkundrak/+archive/ubuntu/network-manager-daily-stable after that try again
[03:25] <snowstorm> sruli: will try and see
[03:56] <crux0> What's the differences between /usr/sbin/service and /bin/systemctl?
[03:57] <crux0> If I start a service using /usr/sbin/service, can I stop that service with /bin/systemctl?
[04:01] <Geo> Hello- I just installed ubuntu on a new raid1 disk set that I inserted into an already running ubuntu box. the install failed when it tried to install GRUB onto the RAID disk. Now when I reboot, I'm getting the ash initramfs shell. How can I repair this failed install?
[04:01] <wangxiaoke> hello
[04:02] <wangxiaoke> is here someone?
[04:02] <EventHorizon> afternoon.  any idea where the lock screen clock.qml is located???
[04:02] <wangxiaoke> afternoon!
[04:06] <nomic> Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4044404/Corbyn-s-Christmas-karaoke-meltdow
[04:06] <nomic> Corbyn's Christmas karaoke meltdown: Labour leader 'storms out' of party as rowdy MPs chant 'We want Tony' and video shows them singing Blair's 1997 election anthem 'Things Can Only Get Better'
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[04:06] <nomic> Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
[04:06] <nomic> lol
[04:06] <nomic> "things can onloy get better"
[04:06] <nomic> was what was the song that they were all singing (labour) .. with the backing of the band, in 1997
[04:06] <nomic> (blair)
[04:23] <sruli> i tried upgrading 14.04 to 16.04, system hung in the middle now it doesnt boot properly, gets stuck before login screen, i booted live cd and tried to recover my ecryptfs "ecryptfs-recover-private" but i get n error "find /run/user/999/gvfs: permission denied.  find: file system loop detected: /sys/kernel/debug/pinctrl is part of the same file system loop as /sys/kernel/debug."
[04:24] <kang0> Will bootable Linux pen drive work on Windows 8.1 tablet?
[04:25] <liiozx> /exit
[04:25] <rangemonger> kang0: depends on the tablet
[04:26] <rangemonger> why not try?
[04:26] <kang0> How? rangemonger
[04:26] <kang0> What to check in tablet?
[04:26] <kang0> I haven't yet created bootable drive
[04:26] <rangemonger> its worth a shot, you can run linux live off the usb stick to try it out
[04:27] <rangemonger> check what model of tab it is
[04:27] <rangemonger> mine, for example, doesnt work too great yet
[04:27] <kang0> If it didn't work I don't want to spare 1 or more hour to create bootable drive
[04:27] <rangemonger> asus t100taf
[04:27] <kang0> Why not working great?
[04:27] <rangemonger> it takes 5 min to make a bootable drive
[04:28] <rangemonger> touch screen drivers arent quite working yet, sounds not working
[04:28] <kang0> 5 mins only? Are you sure ? How? rangemonger
[04:29] <rangemonger> ive done it a bunch of times, as have many others
[04:29] <rangemonger> doesnt take long to make a bootable stick
[04:29] <kang0> Touch is required; I can ignore  sound
[04:30] <rangemonger> thats just my tab
[04:30] <rangemonger> yours might be better off
[04:30] <rangemonger> unless its the same one as mine
[04:30] <kang0> I am sure I have the worst tablet
[04:30] <kang0> That's why I am asking in detail
[04:31] <rangemonger> "worst" is subjective, it just depends on if there are good drivers made or not
[04:32] <kang0> 1gb ram from worst point of view
[04:33] <SonikkuAmerica> From experience, I will tell you if you are looking to interface specifically with a touch screen, your best bet will be to use GNOME.
[04:33] <rangemonger> kang0: the older the better, more likely to be supported well
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> we have many users having good experience with touch on unity7 and 8 also
[04:34] <kang0> SonikkuAmerica gnome is Linux?
[04:34] <kang0> 7" from worst point
[04:34] <kang0> What's unity
[04:35] <rangemonger> kang0: its one desktop environment on linux, one of many
[04:35] <rangemonger> unity too
[04:35] <rangemonger> too bad asus100taf's touch doesnt work right yet
[04:35] <Eduard_Munteanu> degarmo, so, you downloaded the drivers and you have to use cd in a terminal to get there.
[04:36] <rangemonger> some people are working on it but their drivers arent mainlined yet
[04:39] <SonikkuAmerica> kang0: GNOME is a desktop environment for Linux. Along with KDE, it's what people think of when they think of Linux on a desktop.
[04:41] <Bashing-om> kang0: 1 Gig of ram though, you want to go with a light desktop environment . unity and kde want 2 Gigs or more for a good experince .
[04:42] <rangemonger> indeed
[04:47] <sruli> does rsync copy hidden files by defaut?
[04:48] <kang0> Bashing-om which may be for 1gb ram
[04:49] <lauritzt[m]> sruli: Yes
[04:50] <Bashing-om> kang0: I favor : " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .
[04:51] <rangemonger> Bashing-om: but it wont be touch freindly
[04:51] <rangemonger> everythings kind of small
[04:51] <astrat_> poker ace99
[04:52] <kang0> What do you mean by touch friendly
[04:52] <morf> touch screen support i guess
[04:52] <rangemonger> kang0: everythings kind of small
[04:52] <morf> wut? :)))
[04:53] <rangemonger> on lxde, everythings too small for a finger
[04:53] <morf> you can make pretty much everything on desktop small or big as you want
[04:53] <rangemonger> it would get annoying
[04:53] <rangemonger> but for someone whos new and confused, thats not the best way to start
[04:54] <xangua> You want a light desktop that is user friendly, xfce
[04:54] <AndChat|189569> Lxde
[04:55] <morf> AndChat|189569: this is not a flame lxde/lubuntu was already recommended
[04:55] <rangemonger> xangua: that is touch freindly
[04:55] <kang0> morf too small will make my problems worst as it's 7" tablet only
[04:56] <morf> kang0: you make icons / bar etc make big or small as you want
[04:56] <morf> font size etc
[04:56] <xangua> If what you want is an OS focused on touchscreen gestures, unity and gnome shell would be better candidates
[04:56] <kang0> Display resolution isn't much good on my tablet
[04:56] <rangemonger> i 2nd what xangus says
[04:57] <rangemonger> though unity will be slow on 1 gig
[04:57] <kang0> xangua my primary need is it should work with my low hardware spec and #2: touch should work in tablet
[04:58] <rangemonger> gnomes pretty much the best bet
[04:58] <xangua> kang0: touch should work is not the same as works with Ubuntu/Linux, you haven't tried then I guess?
[04:58] <rangemonger> they havent yet
[04:58] <rangemonger> try it
[04:58] <rangemonger> just run it live off the stick
[04:58] <rangemonger> give it a shot
[04:58] <xangua> A tablet? I don't like where this is going
[04:59] <rangemonger> lol
[04:59] <rangemonger> its hit and miss, yeah
[04:59] <rangemonger> mine tab was a miss
[04:59] <rangemonger> *my tab
[05:09] <eliot> ......
[05:10] <RonWhoCares> Could someone tell me where GTK UVC stores videos you capture?
[05:13] <eliot> 中文
[05:16] <rangemonger> RonWhoCares: guvcview?
[05:17] <RonWhoCares> rangemonger: Yes, I just did a 'capture video' with this.  Where is the video file created?
[05:18] <RonWhoCares> (what file path should I be looking in?)
[05:18] <rangemonger> ill grab my cam, one sec, ill find out
[05:20] <RonWhoCares> ok
[05:20] <RonWhoCares> Thank you very much.  I sure hope what I recorded saved.
[05:22] <rangemonger> crap, things not finding my cam
[05:22] <rangemonger> the app doesnt even launch without a cam
[05:23] <RonWhoCares> You have to have your USB web cam plugged into video-0
[05:23] <RonWhoCares> Try a different USB port
[05:25] <rangemonger> i cant, its a vm :P
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !zn | elio
[05:26] <RonWhoCares> Shoot :/
[05:26] <rangemonger> im still trying stuff
[05:28] <RonWhoCares> Can anyone else help
[05:29] <RonWhoCares> rangemonger: Do you know what file extension I could search for?
[05:29] <RonWhoCares> rangemonger: What were you going to do to find out?
[05:29] <rangemonger> i was just going to record a vid and see if i could find it, maybe do a file searhh
[05:29] <rangemonger> *search
[05:30] <rangemonger> i dont know, ive never used this app yet
[05:30] <RonWhoCares> rangemonger: Is there a command I could search recursively all files created within the past hour?
[05:30] <rangemonger> probably but i dont know it
[05:30] <rangemonger> its likely in your home dir somewhere
[05:34] <Bashing-om> RonWhoCares: Try: ' find ~/ -mmin -10 -type f ' replacing -10 with a more appropriate time to specify how far back find should go (from the current time).
[05:36] <RonWhoCares> Found it
[05:36] <rangemonger> nice, where?
[05:36] <RonWhoCares> It is in /home/rpiggott
[05:36] <rangemonger> ah
[05:37] <rangemonger> cool
[05:38] <RonWhoCares> No I just have 1 other problem.  It recorded me in mono
[05:38] <RonWhoCares> hopefully I can use audicity to export the audio in stereo
[05:42] <rangemonger> it might be a setting in the sound crontrol panel
[05:44] <RonWhoCares> I will have to look
[05:44] <RonWhoCares> I am wanting the video I just recorded to work
[05:45] <RonWhoCares> It is about 30 minutes long.  The video is titled "Support For The Uncertainty Caused By A Prolonged Illness".  My youTube channel is themed about my life with a long term physical disability
[05:47] <rangemonger> i see
[05:48] <rangemonger> if you want to keep talking about it, its cool, but the chan amins are going to complain
[06:15] <stein2843> lag is high means im offline?
[06:17] <rangemonger> nope, your online
[06:24] <Phase> I'm using ubuntu mate 16.04 and I can't get this overlay terminal thing off my screen. Pushing F11 just maximizes it and then brings it back to a small window, but I can't find the key to actually close it.
[06:24] <Phase> Any ideas? :D
[06:25] <Ben64> Phase: what overlay terminal thing
[06:25] <rangemonger> the quake syle one
[06:25] <rangemonger> f11 is usually a fullscreen key
[06:25] <rangemonger> so that wont fix it
[06:25] <rangemonger> ill boot up my mate vm and see whats up
[06:26] <Phase> quake style lol
[06:26] <rangemonger> well it kind of is
[06:26] <rangemonger> its in the syle of quakes console
[06:27] <Phase> oh true, yeah
[06:28] <rangemonger> whats it called again?
[06:30] <PsychoX75> Has anyone tried running an FTP server on Ubuntu?  Trying Vsftpd. Damn thing is the easiest to install. But creating a working user on it... well, lets just say its easier to shoot staples in my nails.
[06:30] <rangemonger> Phase: ^
[06:30] <Phase> rangemonger Honestly, I don't know
[06:30] <Phase> I'm looking at a ps output right now seeing if anything looks like it's it.
[06:30] <rangemonger> Phase: hmm, im on 16.10, im not sure its on here
[06:31] <Phase> hm
[06:31] <kk4ewt> systemctl status vsftpd
[06:31] <PsychoX75> kk4ewt: me?
[06:31] <kk4ewt> no the other person asking about ftp
[06:32] <rangemonger> kk4ewt: that was the person asking about ftp :P]
[06:32] <PsychoX75> 0_o
[06:33] <rangemonger> lol
[06:33] <rangemonger> oh snap, so it is possible to change tty on virtualbox
[06:33] <rangemonger> Phase: is it guake?
[06:34] <Phase> Found it!
[06:34] <Phase> it's `tilda`
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> PsychoX75: be carefull with ftp, its getting exploited worldwide
[06:35] <plytro> PsychoX75: scp server is better
[06:35] <Phase> which makes sense, `man tilda` and it says a terminal emulator in the style of old fps games
[06:35] <PsychoX75> the thing is
[06:35] <Phase> rangemonger ^
[06:35] <plytro> and if you want isolation you can run it in a VM or docker container only exposing the directories you want
[06:35] <PsychoX75> I'm setting this server up for some dumb Security cams that has to have a remote site to write their video files.
[06:35] <plytro> :(
[06:36] <plytro> I'd run the ftp server in an isolated container then
[06:36] <PsychoX75> now THAT caught my attention
[06:37] <PsychoX75> "isolated container" u say
[06:37] <PsychoX75> Like VmWare?
[06:37] <plytro> like docker
[06:37] <rangemonger> lxc
[06:37] <plytro> bsd jail
[06:37] <Phase> rangemonger: Thanks for helping me troubleshoot at least :)
[06:37] <rangemonger> PsychoX75: like VMs eh?
[06:38] <rangemonger> Phase: im about to get tilda... or did you get it to work?
[06:38] <PsychoX75> rangemonger: forget what i said.
[06:38] <plytro> rangemonger: guake uses ~ as the hotkey
[06:38] <PsychoX75> i just went googling.  :)
[06:38] <PsychoX75> For now I'll do this as a short test phase
[06:39] <plytro> https://hub.docker.com/r/webdevops/vsftp/
[06:39] <rangemonger> so its guake?
[06:39] <PsychoX75> stuff to read i guess.
[06:40] <PsychoX75> But seriously guys... I remember that setting up an FTP server (just to test) used to be quicker. But I cant remember which was that other FTP server proggie i used in the past. I tried to avoid VSFTPD just because of the headache it gives.
[06:40] <Phase> rangemonger: It's tilda
[06:40] <Phase> rangemonger: I just killed the process to get rid of it, lol
[06:41] <rangemonger> lol, ok im going to get tilda
[06:41] <PsychoX75> can you name a couple of light-n-easy ftp server programs?  I know it wasnt Proftd. But what...oh...what was the name again?
[06:41] <Phase> lol
[06:41] <Phase> In a bit I'll probably look up how to actually use it
[06:41] <Phase> then it won't be an issue :P
[06:41] <rangemonger> im curious anyway, still getting it
[06:41] <Phase> Have fun :P
[06:42] <rangemonger> heh, i will
[06:42] <PsychoX75> then again... i just got a better idea.  Now i remembered that i can connect an USB stick to my router and let him do the damn job for now.
[06:42] <PsychoX75> brb
[06:44] <rangemonger> Phase: its f11+1 :P
[06:44] <rangemonger> f12
[06:44] <Phase> I tried that too :\
[06:44] <rangemonger> odd
[06:44] <rangemonger> hides/shows for me
[06:45] <Phase> this is a laptop, maybe something laptop-y is messing with it
[06:45] <Phase> like the function button, I dunno
[06:46] <rangemonger> also, its on 16.10 by default but it doesnt seem to have a gui icon
[06:46] <Phase> It doesn't have one on 16.04 either
[06:47] <rangemonger> whats the point in that :/
[06:47] <Phase> to be annoying :D
[06:48] <rangemonger> heh
[06:57] <sruli> i copied a dir using rsync, it shows that it completed, when i compare the 2 dirs the destination is ~10gb less, but when i count the files its exactly the same, original fs is ext4 destination is zfs, can this be the reason?
[06:57] <stein2843> so lag means what orz...
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> stein2843: ?
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> sruli: perhaps the #rsync guys might know that1
[07:06] <plytro> sruli: yes that could be the reason
[07:06] <plytro> zfs may be doing de-dupe
[07:06] <Warrington> Just did a fresh install of 16.04 recently and I've noticed that windows aren't respect the boundaries of the desktop panel if it is positioned at the top
[07:06] <plytro> block size may be different
[07:06] <plytro> therefore size on disk reports differently
[07:08] <plytro> sruli: https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+rsync+differnt+file+sizes&oq=linux+rsync+differnt+file+sizes
[07:08] <plytro> first hit
[07:08] <plytro> even with the typo
[07:10] <giuseppe_> ciao ciao
[07:11] <sruli> plytro: thanks
[07:18] <RonWhoCares> Good.  My new video is rendering
[07:39] <robotti^> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574347
[07:39] <robotti^> I have this same bug
[07:39] <robotti^> Is there fix for it?
[07:40] <cfhowlett> robotti^ read the bug report for same
[07:40] <robotti^> wifi applet does not show list WIFI aps after suspend
[07:41] <robotti^> cfhowlett: what you mean?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> robotti^, you asked if there's a fix.  read the bug report. "Fix released"!
[07:42] <robotti^> cfhowlett: but how to find solution?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> robotti^, .... "fix" = "solution"
[07:42] <robotti^> how to find that fix?
[07:42] <robotti^> :D
[07:42] <robotti^> I am meaning that
[07:43] <Jerry> Anyone know if 16.04 will work with cloudstack any time soon?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> look at the bug report. see "fix released"?  see the "I" next to "Fix Released"?  I = click here for more Information
[08:01] <robotti^> cfhowlett: It marked for fixed and I have newer fixed package. but bug still persist.
[08:01] <robotti^> so it is not fixed
[08:01] <robotti^> manual 'sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager.service' fixes things until next login/boot.
[08:02] <robotti^> but it is not really fix
[08:05] <Jakey3> can someone recommend a router to blend two internet connections?
[08:06] <Ben64> Jakey3: wrong channel
[08:06] <puffinz>  Jupiter routers makes super serial secure routers.
[08:06] <puffinz> NOT.
[08:06] <puffinz> Juniper
[08:09] <Jakey3> thanks
[08:14] <cfhowlett> robotti^, that is the official bug.  If there's a fix, that is where it will appear.
[08:15] <cfhowlett> subscribe to it and wait is the best I can suggest
[08:23] <robotti^> cfhowlett: It seems to be kernel issue. So how to update newer kernel?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> robotti^, sudo apt upgrade grabs all update ready packages including kernels.
[08:25] <Stryker87> Hi all
[08:25] <robotti^> cfhowlett: I have
[08:26] <robotti^> I have newest packages
[08:26] <cfhowlett> robotti^, note our issues to the bug report.
[08:27] <boblamont> Does anyone use Bluefish?
[08:27] <robotti^> It seems somebody have also updated kernel and it would not help
[08:27] <robotti^> cfhowlett: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1574347
[08:27] <robotti^> there was newer bug
[08:27] <robotti^> about that
[08:27] <robotti^> it is not fixed
[08:28] <Stryker87> Hey peeps have a laptop with AMD Radeon HD 5650 gpu whats the best driver for it in 16.04 and how do i install it, only have a 1024x768 screen resolution
[08:28] <cfhowlett> boblamont, avoid DAE type questions. for clarity and answers, post YOUR issues and YOUR hardware specifications
[08:28] <Stryker87> ....option while its a 1366x768 screen
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !mad | Stryker87
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !amd
[08:29] <Stryker87> So i use the amdgpu driver?
[08:30] <Stryker87> Sorry for the noobness, Window user trying to go full linux :D
[08:31] <boblamont> I'm sure it's easy, but I'm trying to create a snippet that matches ( .) and turns it uppercase. It's easy to do manual, because of the "Replace Type" menu, but I don't know what syntax is appropriate for the snippets.
[08:34] <nchambers> if I ssh into a server as user $x, I know how to login to user $y, but after logging into user $y, is there a way to delete user $x from user $y? just running deluser doesn't work, since im originally connected to the server as user $x
[08:34] <Ben64> nchambers: you have to not be logged into x at all to delete
[08:35] <nchambers> yeah thats what I figured :/
[08:35] <nchambers> I completely log out of $x right now, but was hoping theres a way where I don't have to do it
[08:35] <aum> anyone know how to get a version of sflphone that works in ubuntu 16.10 (xenial)
[08:35] <lok> who was helping me for bootable linux selection for tablet?
[08:37] <rangemonger> might have been me but you had a different user name
[08:37] <lok> there were couple of other guys also
[08:38] <Ben64> aum: looks like the package got removed between 15.10 and 16.04
[08:39] <lok> correct name is om
[08:39] <somethingsomethi> My emacs has a stupid empty space before the main screen (canvas) http://imgur.com/a/ug0aF How can I fix it?
[08:40] <puffinz> muh names durreellllllll
[08:40] <aum> Ben64, that really really sucks - SFLPhone was about the only decent graphical VoIP client
[08:40] <Phase> SFLPhone is now Ring.
[08:40] <Phase> https://ring.cx/en/download/gnu-linux
[08:41] <aum> Phase, thanks
[08:41] <Phase> you're welcome :)
[08:42] <aum> except ring doesn't seem to be on 16.04 repos
[08:42] <stein2843> how to turn off entry prompt
[08:42] <aum> oh wait - distro-specific instructions
[08:46] <aum> actually, ring sucks too - doesn't support plain SIP connections
[08:49] <nchambers> do things in the /etc/sudoers.d directory overwrite what appears initially in the /etc/sudoers file?
[08:52] <ducasse> nchambers: individual files in /etc/sudoers.d are parsed as additions to /etc/sudoers
[08:53] <nchambers> right, but do those additions replace any directive that was already there?
[08:55] <ducasse> that would depend on the addition, the files are basically cat'ed in at the appropriate #inlude directive
[08:55] <ducasse> *#include
[08:56] <ducasse> nchambers: they might override earlier entries, they don't overwrite them.
[08:56] <nchambers> ok great. thanks
[09:10] <somethingsomethi> My emacs has a stupid empty space before the main screen (canvas) http://imgur.com/a/ug0aF How can I fix it?
[09:11] <thadtheman> I want to mount a USB pendrive without root from the commandline.
[09:21] <mitsakos> hi
[09:23] <dikiaap> oi
[09:23] <AlphaOmega> hello, and help!
[09:23] <rangemonger> sup
[09:23] <cfhowlett> !help | AlphaOmega
[09:24] <AlphaOmega> ty cfhowlett
[09:26] <AlphaOmega> I was looking at 2 failures during load-up viz. qemu-kvm exit-code : 5, systemd-remount-fs exit-code : 1    I fixed the first by disabling the service and the second by updating the UUID in /etc/fstab.    But right after updating the UUID, somehow everytime I run sudo I get this message "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"..    Now how do I fix this???
[09:28] <AlphaOmega> also, the SUDO_ASKPASS environment variable is empty
[09:28] <rangemonger> hmm, this one goes over my head
[09:29] <rangemonger> hopefully someone else is awake here
[09:29] <AlphaOmega> somehow, i don't have a /etc/sudo.conf file.. :(
[09:29] <AlphaOmega> an example file is present at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudo.conf
[09:30] <rangemonger> you can make one
[09:30] <rangemonger> with... oh what was it
[09:30] <rangemonger> X -configure, maybe
[09:30] <AlphaOmega> i'd rather use the example file.. kinda spooked with commands that generate configs
[09:32] <lok> i was disconnected
[09:33] <AlphaOmega> lok, can you help me out?
[09:33] <lok> tellmme AlphaOmega
[09:34] <AlphaOmega> somehow everytime I run sudo I get this message "sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified"..    Now how do I fix this???
[09:34] <AlphaOmega> also, the SUDO_ASKPASS environment variable is empty
[09:34] <AlphaOmega> somehow, i don't have a /etc/sudo.conf file.. :(     and an example file is present at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudo.conf
[09:38] <robotti^> does anybody here know about acpi things?
[09:41] <robotti^> I have problem with backlight keyboard on my keyboard
[09:42]  * AlphaOmega is inexperienced with acpi
[09:42] <robotti^> when I leave my laptop for while alone it will dim screen but it will enable keyboard backlight
[09:42] <fuzzybear3965> I have a user running a particular process (command line) but I need to restart the display manager.
 Is that okay?
 Will the user's task terminate?
 He's ffmpeg-ing in tmux and I want to `systemctl restart lightdm`.
[09:42] <fuzzybear3965> Sorry, you guys. I'm moving this question from #linux.
[09:42] <robotti^> How I can disable keyboard backlight from acpi battery behavior?
[09:43] <yaroslav> Hi. I use kde neon 5.8.4. I've tried to install veracrypt and get this error: Verifying archive integrity...  100%   All good.
[09:43] <yaroslav> Uncompressing VeraCrypt 1.19 Installer  100%
[09:43] <yaroslav> QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
[09:43] <robotti^> I want to enable keyboard backlight by software.
[09:43] <yaroslav> how to fix it?
[09:43] <robotti^> I do not want
[09:44] <AlphaOmega> yaroslav: by setting XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to a value expected by veracrypt?
[09:44] <bazhang> !info veracrypt
[09:45] <bazhang> why not ask in a veracrypt channel then
[09:45] <bazhang>  /msg alis list veracrypt  to find one
[09:45] <AlphaOmega> does anyone have a copy of 'uncustomized/unedited' /etc/sudo.conf?
[09:46] <ducasse> yaroslav: kde neon is not supported here
[09:46] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: i might i have VMs with fresh installs of 'buntus
[09:46] <rangemonger> yaroslav: go to #kdeneon
[09:46] <rangemonger> yaroslav: go to or was it #kde-neon
[09:46] <AlphaOmega> can you look for and drop it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[09:47] <rangemonger> *or was it
[09:47] <usil> hello. Why I don't have any premmison
[09:47] <usil> cd Documents/
[09:47] <usil> bash: cd: Documents/: Permission denied
[09:47] <AlphaOmega> rangemonger: can you look for and drop it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[09:47] <usil> I'm the owner of files
[09:47] <AlphaOmega> usil: ls -l Documents/
[09:47] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: ok
[09:47] <AlphaOmega> usil: show what's the output
[09:47] <usil> ls -l Documents/
[09:47] <usil> total 0
[09:47] <ducasse> usil: ls -ld Documents
[09:48] <usil> ducasse: ls -ld Documents/
[09:48] <usil> drw-rw-r-- 2 slani slani 4096 Dez 18 00:20 Documents/
[09:48] <AlphaOmega> there we go
[09:48] <ducasse> usil: chmod +x Documents
[09:48] <gpio> the x factor
[09:48] <AlphaOmega> chmod a+x Documents
[09:48] <AlphaOmega> yep
[09:49] <AlphaOmega> usil: it's not that you don't have permission, it's that your folder is 'locked'
[09:49] <cfhowlett> encryption???
[09:49] <AlphaOmega> cfhowlett: wuht??
[09:49] <usil> AlphaOmega: why my folder is 'locked'
[09:49] <ducasse> more likely _someone_ has messed with the permissions. i suspect pebcak.
[09:50] <cfhowlett> :)
[09:50] <AlphaOmega> any directory missing an eXecute permission cannot be opened.. File permission basics
[09:50] <usil> AlphaOmega: becaseu all my folders in home folder are 'locked'
[09:50] <usil> that is a problem
[09:50] <ducasse> usil: that does not happen by itself.
[09:50] <AlphaOmega> ou.. looks like you or some script ran a chmod a-x * on your home directory
[09:51] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: fresh install, that files non existent
[09:51] <usil> ducasse: I know. Thath is a problem
[09:51] <AlphaOmega> rangemonger: can you see the output of `echo $SUDO_ASKPASS`?
[09:51] <rangemonger> ok, one sec
[09:51] <usil> Can this be contected that my home foled is encrypted
[09:52] <Ben64> usil: no
[09:52] <AlphaOmega> no
[09:52] <Ben64> be more careful with chmod and wildcards
[09:52] <usil> I made a new install and the first time I choose encrypt home folder.
[09:52] <Ben64> unrelated
[09:52] <usil> And this is a firts time I encouter with this problem
[09:52] <AlphaOmega> maybe the install scripts have this tiny little caveat?
[09:53] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: it outputs nothing, just goes to a new line
[09:53] <AlphaOmega> rangemonger: what about the /etc/sudoers file? does it include a special line?
[09:54] <AlphaOmega> usil: show the output of `cat ~/.bash_history | grep chmod`
[09:54] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: /etc/sudoers.d/ ?
[09:55] <usil> AlphaOmega: chmod  755 vimlua
[09:55] <usil> chmod 644 *
[09:55] <usil> chmod 655 *
[09:55] <usil> chmod 666 *
[09:55] <usil> chmod 644 *
[09:55] <usil> chmod  664 *
[09:55] <AlphaOmega> rangemonger: if there is something more than a README file inside sudoers.d, then that too.. but I want to see a copy of /etc/sudoers (file)
[09:56] <usil> AlphaOmega: https://paste.ubuntu.com/23647127/
[09:56] <AlphaOmega> usil: there we go... a chmod setting permissions without eXecute bit (even number trio) on everything in the current directory
[09:56] <AlphaOmega> you did do that yourself
[09:57] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: just the readme
[09:57] <AlphaOmega> rangemonger: forget the sudoers.d folder then.. i wanna see the /etc/sudoers (this is a file)
[09:58] <rangemonger> AlphaOmega: i  dont have that file
[09:58] <AlphaOmega> is it a live cd
[09:59] <rangemonger> not at the moment
[09:59] <rangemonger> its an install
[09:59] <Ben64> is it ubuntu
[09:59] <AlphaOmega> it is a sudo user, right?
[09:59] <usil> AlphaOmega: thanks :D
[10:00] <AlphaOmega> as Ben64 said : <Ben64> be more careful with chmod and wildcards
[10:02]  * gpio posted sudoers on paste.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <usil> ducasse: ups. I make a mistake
[10:04] <ducasse> usil: we all do.
[10:05] <AlphaOmega> nevermind
[10:05] <AlphaOmega> fixed that
[10:05] <AlphaOmega> again, without a /etc/sudo.conf or SUDO_ASKPASS env variable
[10:06] <AlphaOmega> anyway, ty folks.. much appreciated. ty rangemonger
[10:06] <rangemonger> no prob
[10:15] <Baidu> joined
[10:16] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23647192/   :)~
[10:18] <puffinz> What are the big differences between Debian and Ubuntu?
[10:18] <Dreaman> ubuntu is debian
[10:19] <Dreaman> mint is ubuntu
[10:19] <Dreaman> nothing
[10:19] <puffinz> Im sure there must be some differences
[10:19] <cfhowlett> Dreaman, false.  this is the support channel.  ask your questions and do not spread disinformation.
[10:20] <Dreaman> disinformation is
[10:20] <cfhowlett> Dreaman, ask your ubuntu questions
[10:20] <puffinz> I just dont see many differences, maybe im talkin in circles ;)
[10:20]  * puffinz trots away
[10:21] <Dreaman> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/23647192/  cfhowlett nothing i just install ubuntu in my new laptop
[10:21] <Dreaman> a not a lame
[10:21] <cfhowlett> this is not channel for chitchat.  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:21] <Dreaman> ok
[10:22] <Dreaman> thenks
[10:22] <backbox> hi
[10:56] <Cust0sLimen> .
[11:04] <smeert> hey guys
[11:05] <smeert> installed ned software raid to my computer. tips on how to use it? I mean how to format is as ext4 and mount it to something?
[11:22] <Mouaad> hello, why the package linux-image-generic-lts-yakkety has been deleted from canonical-kernel-team/ppa? and should I continue to use it ?
[11:34] <testml> hello wtf is wrong with 16.* ?
[11:34] <testml> how do you ship broken kernels?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> testml  mind your language and start from the beginning, what brings you here
[11:34] <testml> ?
[11:36] <rangemonger> the kerns not broken
[11:36] <rangemonger> a bunch of people are using it just fine so it cant be
[11:40] <breitburg_> hi
[11:41] <testml> well it appears the bug is in intel x video driver
[11:42] <tomreyn> Mouaad: have your read the description at https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa ?
[11:43] <tomreyn> this PPA is not supported here, and probably nowhere else either
[11:52] <ubuntu832> when i delete files from a separate disk the files don't show up in trash and instead go to a local .trash-0 or .trash-1000 how can i have it show up in main trash?
[11:53] <Ben64> ubuntu832: you don't
[11:53] <bekks> ubuntu832: "separate disk" - thats an USB disk?
[11:53] <ubuntu832> from either external disk or separate internal disk in the system
[11:54] <ubuntu832> it's a new install and i think i messed up something while trying out file managers
[11:54] <oteg> anybody here?
[11:54] <bekks> oteg: Look at "/names", so ye.
[11:54] <bekks> *yes
[11:54] <ubuntu832> when i delete files from a separate disk or a separate partition it doesn't show in trash, i have to hunt down the local .trash folder and manually delete
[11:56] <oteg> guys, you arent afraid of anybody can knows your ip?
[11:56] <oteg> hmm?
[11:56] <bekks> oteg: Whats your actual ubuntu support question please?
[11:57] <oteg> i havent, i just asked, because this is intresting
[11:57] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: thats normal, even win does that
[11:58] <whitesquall> oteg: is it bad?
[11:58] <ubuntu832> This wasn't the case with my old ubuntu install though
[11:58] <ubuntu832> rangemonger:
[11:58] <oteg> yes
[11:58] <oteg> i just collect ip-s
[11:58] <supardi> morning kkkk
[11:58] <ubuntu832> i could delete files from my external drive or from my windows partition and it would show up in my trash folder
[11:58] <netcrash> hello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas?
[11:58] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: certain file manager might do it differently
[11:59] <rangemonger> its an option on pcmanfm
[11:59] <ubuntu832> I've tried thunar and nemo
[11:59] <ubuntu832> oh really
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[11:59] <ubuntu832> i'll have to try pcmanfm if all fails
[11:59] <bugtraq> hi
[11:59] <ubuntu832> but nemo on my old install never gave this issue
[12:00] <bugtraq> i need a keyloger pls
[12:00] <ubuntu832> and i hated thunar because when i tried to merge folders it doesn't know how it just makes another copy of it
[12:00] <supardi> ubuntu  ,.. run  old my pc  ,...  amazyng
[12:00] <ubuntu832> ridiculous
[12:01] <rangemonger> lol wut
[12:01] <rangemonger> thats weird
[12:01] <ubuntu832> that's what i thought
[12:01] <ubuntu832> so i installed nemo instead
[12:02] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: how can I view that? ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't have any terminal ...
[12:02] <ubuntu832> im trying out xubuntu atm but im thinking about going back and installing xfce over stock ubuntu instead if it keeps giving me issues like this
[12:02] <supardi> ubuntu  ,.. run  my old pc  ,...  amazing ,...  fast  respec
[12:02] <bekks> ubuntu832: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce. As long as you will be using xfce, the issue will persist.
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  open a terminal and type    cat /etc/issue
[12:03] <ubuntu832> well i remember running xfce over my ubuntu and it didn't have this particular issue in the past
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  use ctrl-alt-t to open a terminal
[12:03] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: huh, i have a clean xubuntu install, im not seeing massive problems
[12:03] <ubuntu832> im wondering if its because xubuntu comes with thunar as the file manager by default
[12:04] <bekks> ubuntu832: xubuntu AND xfce come with thunar.
[12:04] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: when you delete files from a different disk/partition does it go to main trash?
[12:04] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: likely thunar/a thunar setting
[12:04] <ubuntu832> hmmm...
[12:04] <rangemonger> let me check
[12:04] <ubuntu832> I've tried googling but the answers I've found have all been workarounds and not a real solution
[12:04] <rangemonger> booting the xubuntu vm....
[12:04] <ubuntu832> the ones that i found are "just delete using shift-del"
[12:05] <ubuntu832> which isn't a real answer for continued functionality imo
[12:05] <rangemonger> yeah, thats not a real answer
[12:05] <rangemonger> boo-urns to that
[12:05] <bekks> shift-del does something totally different than putting things to trash.
[12:05] <rangemonger> shift del = nuke it on the spot
[12:05] <ubuntu832> yerp
[12:05] <ubuntu832> that's why I'm here :D
[12:06] <ubuntu832> there must be a real solution to it... it doesn't make sense deleting a file should be this complicated
[12:06] <Ben64> deleting isn't the problem though
[12:06] <bekks> ubuntu832: Deleting a file is trivial.
[12:07] <rangemonger> im going to have to make another partition, one sec
[12:07] <ubuntu832> well deleting it to the proper folder etc.
[12:07] <bekks> ubuntu832: You want a cumulated trash, which is a) different, and b) complicated
[12:07] <Ben64> no
[12:07] <Ben64> you don't delete something to a folder
[12:07] <rangemonger> its simple with pcmanfm
[12:07] <ubuntu832> bekks: it wasn't an issue on my old ubuntu install which is why it's more puzzling
[12:07] <bekks> ubuntu832: either you delete OR you put things into trash.
[12:07] <rangemonger> pcmanfm has an option to make .trash files on a removable
[12:08] <supardi> MADBOX  Sync Openbox  ,...   LXDE desk
[12:08] <ubuntu832> i had a laptop with w7/ubuntu and when i deleted files from w7/external it went into trash
[12:08] <ubuntu832> it didn't go to a separate .trash folder on the drive
[12:08] <bekks> ubuntu832: It did. That behaviour is as is for ages.
[12:09] <ubuntu832> bekks: i assure you it didn't lol
[12:09] <ubuntu832> otherwise my laptop would've been useless years ago
[12:09] <ubuntu832> it all showed up in my main trash folder on ubuntu
[12:09] <bekks> ubuntu832: If your workflow entirely relies on putting things into trash, I'd rethink that workflow instead.
[12:10] <Ben64> sure it might have showed up, but that's not the same thing as not being on the original drive
[12:10] <ubuntu832> Ben64: yer but the point was I could delete a file from anywhere and it would show in the main trash where i could delete for good, not hunt down a separate .trash folder on the drive to delete for good.
[12:11] <bekks> ubuntu832: It showd up there, but it was located on the external drive, still.
[12:11] <Ben64> if you want to delete something, why not just delete it to begin with
[12:11] <bekks> I second Ben64 at that point.
[12:11] <rangemonger> 3rd
[12:11] <Ben64> although the issue is probably thunar's fault
[12:11] <ubuntu832> hrm
[12:11] <ubuntu832> yea i agree Ben64
[12:11] <Ben64> works fine on my system here with nautilus
[12:11] <rangemonger> im about to try on thunar
[12:12] <ubuntu832> i prefer nemo over nautilus
[12:12] <rangemonger> making another part,
[12:12] <rangemonger> *partition
[12:12] <ubuntu832> im wondering if there's some kind of conflict with using nemo on xubuntu
[12:12] <bekks> I prefer terminal over graphical filemanagers.
[12:12] <bekks> ubuntu832: No, there is no conflict like that.
[12:12] <ubuntu832> bc as i understand it i can never completely remove thunar from xubuntu
[12:13] <rangemonger> aw crud
[12:13] <rangemonger> i cant resize
[12:13] <rangemonger> boo-urns
[12:13] <rangemonger> swapoff i say
[12:14] <rangemonger> making a new partition with that
[12:14] <ubuntu832> thx rangemonger
[12:15] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: no prob.... it just wants to delete things
[12:15] <rangemonger> not cool thunar, not cool
[12:15] <ubuntu832> lol right
[12:15] <rangemonger> maybe its a hidden setting in the config file for it
[12:16] <ubuntu832> I'm trying out xubuntu to maximize performance but i might end up going back to unity if this continues being an issue
[12:16] <rangemonger> but it doesnt appeart to be a visible setting
[12:16] <rangemonger> kde is my jam
[12:16] <rangemonger> so many options
[12:16] <ubuntu832> yeah?
[12:17] <ubuntu832> i do have a new machine but i want to keep it as minimal as possible
[12:17] <ubuntu832> hence xubuntu over ubuntu
[12:17] <Mouaad> Mouaad
[12:17] <ubuntu832> i considered lubuntu but it sounded like it kept things TOO low powered
[12:17] <ubuntu832> too minimal
[12:18] <Mouaad> anyone knows what may cause this error in the startup ? ([drm:amdgpu_cgs_get_firmware_info [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Failed to request firmware)
[12:18] <bekks> ubuntu832: Did you try it?
[12:18] <Mouaad> PS: im using kernel 4.9
[12:18] <ubuntu832> lubuntu?
[12:18] <bekks> ubuntu832: Yeah.
[12:18] <ubuntu832> no
[12:18] <bekks> ubuntu832: So you relied on rumours.
[12:18] <ubuntu832> rumours and from what i researched, yes.
[12:19] <rangemonger> lubuntu is pretty decent
[12:19] <rangemonger> im using lxde to run my hypervisor
[12:19] <rangemonger> unlike most linux peeps, i needs mah gui
[12:19] <ubuntu832> same
[12:20] <bekks> ubuntu832: Unless you tried it out, your reasearch was about rumours.
[12:20] <rangemonger> there are only so many commands i can type before i dont want to bother anymore
[12:20] <rangemonger> and this is from someone who started with dos 5
[12:20] <ubuntu832> i can reasonably extract my own conclusions w/o trying everything bekks
[12:21] <bekks> ubuntu832: I strongly doubt that.
[12:21] <ubuntu832> i'm considering going antergos
[12:21] <ubuntu832> sure is going on assumptions bekks
[12:22] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: what are you running? stock ubuntu?
[12:22] <exalt> Hello, i am used to working with colemak keyboad layout, when i install ubuntu as a guest in virtualbox with disk encryption i can not enter the valid key during boot. how can i set the correct console keyboad layout during installation ?
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> antergos is Arch, is what i read here
[12:22] <bekks> ubuntu832: Yeah, and your assumptions are quite different from reality, in terms of lubuntu, e.g.
[12:22] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Yes, Antergos is an Arch Linux fork.
[12:22] <ubuntu832> yeah MonkeyDust
[12:22] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: i installed a minimal ubuntu with no gui, added a bare lxde setup to it to host vbox and xen
[12:22] <rangemonger> under VMs, im running all sorts of OSs
[12:23] <ubuntu832> but the mini iso then?
[12:23] <rangemonger> yeah
[12:23] <ubuntu832> hrm
[12:23] <rangemonger> i started with that
[12:23] <ubuntu832> might try that route as well
[12:23] <rangemonger> i compiled it into an iso
[12:23] <ubuntu832> i tried arch and whatnot but I'm on wifi and have had issues getting the drivers set up for my wireless card
[12:24] <rangemonger> ah
[12:24] <ubuntu832> if i had a proper connection I'd give it a real go i think.  good tutorials online
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu832  so you see, every distro (or OS) has its own issues
[12:25] <ubuntu832> yarp
[12:26] <ubuntu832> i didn't think this would've been a particular issue considering it worked fine in my unity setup
[12:26] <ubuntu832> out of all the issues i thought I'd run into this would've been on the bottom half of the list
[12:26] <rangemonger> its  a thunar issue
[12:27] <rangemonger> im going to see if the thunar config has an option
[12:27] <PCatinean> hey guys
[12:27] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: just fyi i still have issues when i delete stuff from nemo
[12:28] <PCatinean> I just ran find ./ -type f -readable -writable -exec sed -i "s/cybernetnews/cybernet/g" {} \; and I replaced stuff in .git files and now they are corrupt
[12:28] <ubuntu832> could it be that thunar running in the background is causing the issue?
[12:28] <PCatinean> any thingI can do to undo this?
[12:28] <rangemonger> wouldnt think so
[12:29] <bekks> PCatinean: Restore your backup.
[12:29] <rangemonger> yeah, this setup, for me is the ultimate
[12:29] <PCatinean> how?
[12:29] <kernello> hello everyone, I've been having problems with network-manager for a long while. it doesnt show wifi networks when waking up from sleep mode, or after wifi switch is turned off-on. sometimes it doesnt show the name of the connected network, either. and sometimes the wifi symbol on the upper pane is replaced by this: https://is.gd/kmhT5R
[12:29] <bekks> PCatinean: How did you create your backup before?
[12:29] <Ben64> PCatinean: and be more careful how you run commands like that in the future
[12:29] <rangemonger> now i just gotta move everthing over to xen for the icing
[12:30] <OerHeks> PCatinean, or reload the files from GIT and start over?
[12:30] <kernello> is there already a way to fix this?
[12:30] <ubuntu832> reinstall drivers?
[12:31] <kernello> ubuntu832, did you answer my question?
[12:31] <OerHeks> kernello, lots of issues with sleep and wifi, sometimes it takes up to a minute to reconnect, or find out what is going on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[12:31] <ubuntu832> that was my suggestion
[12:31] <rangemonger> wow, thunars config file has almost no options
[12:32] <ubuntu832> yeah not a fan of thunar so far
[12:33] <mgor> kernello, sometimes it helps to restart the network-manager service, this can be done automagically when waking up from sleep, http://askubuntu.com/questions/761180/wifi-doesnt-work-after-suspend-after-16-04-upgrade/761220#761220
[12:33] <kernello> mgor, I know that I can restart nm from terminal. this is what I've been doing dozens of times. but I want to solve this.
[12:34] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: another thought: the trash issue continues even when I'm deleting stuff from nemo; eg if i delete files from nemo from another partition it ends up in a separate .trash folder
[12:34] <kernello> it cannot be that I need to go to terminal every time I log into desktop
[12:34] <ubuntu832> im wondering if it's a disk ownership issue
[12:34] <mgor> kernello, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpasupplicant/+bug/1556357
[12:35] <ubuntu832> deleting files from /home goes straight to trash
[12:35] <rangemonger> im about to try the same thing on ubuntu
[12:35] <ubuntu832> it's the other partitions/disks that causes the problem
[12:36] <bekks> ubuntu832: Other files go to trash too, but are physically located elsewhere.
[12:36] <kernello> mgor, yes, I have had the problem since about the time it was first posted. seems unsolved yet.
[12:36] <bekks> ubuntu832: And this behaviour has been as is since the beginning of the universe.
[12:37] <ubuntu832> bekks: I'm not sure you get what i mean
[12:37] <mgor> kernello, yes, I had the same problem, but the workaround from askubuntu that I posted has solved, most of, the issue for me.
[12:37] <rangemonger> bekks: actually thunar just outright deletes them
[12:37] <rangemonger> i just tried it
[12:37] <ubuntu832> old ubuntu: deleting files from any drive/disk/partition would show up in trash
[12:37] <mgor> kernello, I even had a similar issue on 14.04, where the workaround was to kill wpa_supplicant when waking from sleep
[12:38] <bekks> ubuntu832: I do get what you mean. you want the trashes of external disks show up in your "main trash" too.
[12:38] <ubuntu832> new install: deleting files from drives/disks/partition goes to a separate .trash folder on the drive/disk/partition that i have to hunt down and delete for good manually
[12:38] <OerHeks> ubuntu832, only in gui, not from command line
[12:38] <bekks> ubuntu832: Every disk has its own trash folder, always.
[12:38] <ubuntu832> and I'd like to relegate them into one trash no matter where they're deleted from
[12:38] <Ben64> ubuntu832: ok but why not just delete things
[12:38] <kernello> mgor, I think I've had it with 14.04., too. thank you for the solution. I will try it and see if it works.
[12:38] <ubuntu832> this was automatic on the old install
[12:38] <Ben64> ubuntu832: or install ubuntu if you care this much
[12:38] <bekks> ubuntu832: you are mixing up the LOCATION and the DISPLAY of the trash folders.
[12:39] <ubuntu832> Ben64: i like to review what I'm deleting before i delete them for good.
[12:39] <Ben64> review them before deleting
[12:39] <Ben64> save yourself a step
[12:40] <ubuntu832> bekks: do you have a solution for having deleted files from other partitions show up in one trash?
[12:40] <OerHeks> there is only one trash service.
[12:41] <Oncom> exit
[12:41] <bekks> ubuntu832: As I said, I second Ben64, and personally, I am using a terminal.
[12:41] <ubuntu832> OerHeks: do you have a solution for having deleted files from other partitions show up in one trash?
[12:42] <rangemonger> yep, thunar definitely does it differntly than nautilus
[12:42] <rangemonger> just checked with both
[12:42] <Ben64> so there are two options. pick one.
[12:42] <Ben64> 1. deal with it
[12:42] <Ben64> 2. install ubuntu
[12:42] <OerHeks> ubuntu832, no. the trash folder gives the path of the file, easy to filter
[12:42] <OerHeks> still trash remains in its own /.Trash-1000 on the partition
[12:43] <ubuntu832> right but it would show up in trash, where i could delete them for good on my old ubuntu install.
[12:43] <ubuntu832> xubuntu has issues with this
[12:43] <Ben64> so pick an option
[12:43] <ubuntu832> Ben64: you're giving workarounds, not solutions
[12:44] <bekks> ubuntu832: The solution is to use something that has no issues with it.
[12:44] <Ben64> you have exactly those two solutions
[12:44] <bekks> ubuntu832: a third option would be: 3) get the source code and fix it.
[12:44] <Ben64> ok three options, 2 realistic :)
[12:44] <rangemonger> OerHeks: depends on what file manager you use
[12:44] <bekks> Ben64: :D
[12:44] <rangemonger> there are kind of more than 2
[12:44] <rangemonger> different file managers handle it differently
[12:45] <ubuntu832> ^^^
[12:45] <rangemonger> i just opened a vm with ubuntu and one with xubuntu to confirm this
[12:45] <ubuntu832> and im asking if it's a file manager issue or an ubuntu issue
[12:45] <ubuntu832> rangemonger is the only one actually helping out here
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu832  try this     sudo aptitude purge ~c
[12:46] <OerHeks> never heard about filemanagers handle trash differently, proof?
[12:46] <ubuntu832> [04:45] <rangemonger> i just opened a vm with ubuntu and one with xubuntu to confirm this
[12:46] <ubuntu832> ^^^
[12:46] <Ben64> this has gone on for almost an hour
[12:46] <ubuntu832> thunar appears to be complete crap
[12:46] <Mouaad> Hello, where can I get the package linux-generic-lts-yakkety ? I can't find it
[12:46] <Ben64> ubuntu832: great then stop using it
[12:47] <ubuntu832> having the same issue with nemo in xubuntu as well tho Ben64
[12:47] <rangemonger> OerHeks: proofs there if you run it
[12:47] <Ben64> Mouaad: what version of ubuntu are you using
[12:47] <Ben64> ubuntu832: then don't use nemo
[12:47] <Mouaad> ben64: xenial
[12:47] <ubuntu832> nemo worked fine and as expected on my old install Ben64
[12:47] <ubuntu832> this was not an issue there, im wondering why its an issue now
[12:47] <Ben64> Mouaad: 16.04 doesn't work like that anymore... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[12:48] <bekks> ubuntu832: How long will you continue to discuss your two realistic options?
[12:48] <ubuntu832> i like to look for solutions instead of running away from them on linux
[12:48] <rangemonger> you guys are being a bit of a prick
[12:48] <ubuntu832> bc there's always a way
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu832  try this     sudo aptitude purge ~c
[12:48] <Ben64> it's been nearly an hour going around in circles
[12:48] <Ben64> it's insane
[12:49] <Ben64> ubuntu832: then grab the source code and head down the rabbit hole of option 3
[12:49] <ubuntu832> who uses linux and doesn't try to find a way to solve an issue instead of working around it
[12:49] <Ben64> you're not going to find anyone here to do it for you
[12:49] <ubuntu832> rangemonger is helping
[12:49] <bekks> ubuntu832: The solutions were given.  I want to use that one, instead of "xfce-screenshot"
[12:50] <Ben64> not the solution you want, but as a great poet once said, "you can't always get what you want"
[12:50] <bekks> ubuntu832: I told you to grab the source code already. So why are you discussing it, instead of getting it and FIXING the problem?
[12:51] <ubuntu832> bc ubuntu shouldn't be that difficult to use?
[12:51] <rangemonger> im going to see if dolphin has any options
[12:51] <ubuntu832> thx rangemonger
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  that great poet were the Rolling Stones (fyi)
[12:51] <Mouaad> Ben64: oh ! will  linux-hwe-edge work ? (all i need actualy is a kernel above 4.4)
[12:52] <Ben64> Mouaad: yep!
[12:52] <bekks> ubuntu832: Ok, so you want to continue to waste peoples time. Good luck in doing so, I'm out of your pointless issue.
[12:52] <Mouaad> Ben64: okay ! thank you :)
[12:52] <ubuntu832> bekks: ya never helped m8 thx anyway
[12:53] <bekks> ubuntu832: Then you didnt even read the answers when asking questions.
[12:53] <rangemonger> what was kdes partition prog called again?
[12:55] <rangemonger> dolphin doesnt have much trash options but it has more than the others
[12:55] <ubuntu832> i might give that a shot next
[12:56] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: kde partition manager?
[12:56] <rangemonger> yeah, i forget what the kde one is called
[12:56] <rangemonger> i need to turn the swap partition into another ext4 one to test things
[12:57] <rommel> partitionmanager i think is the dpkg
[12:57] <ubuntu832> no i mean it's literally called kde partition manager i think
[12:57] <rommel> yeah i know what you meant... i wasnt sure what he was asking for
[12:58] <rommel> you could just use swapoff and mkfs.ext4
[12:58] <rangemonger> whats the package called in apt?
[12:59] <rommel> i am in gentoo right now but i think its just partitionmanager
[12:59] <ubuntu832> partitionmanager it looks like
[13:00] <ubuntu832> you can install KDE Partition Manager using Linux Terminal: Open Linux Terminal by pressing Ctrl + Alt + T at the same time, then type sudo apt-get install partitionmanager
[13:00] <ubuntu832> is what i found from googlgin
[13:00] <ubuntu832> googling
[13:00] <rangemonger> score
[13:00] <rangemonger> thats it
[13:03] <rangemonger> it gets moved to trash
[13:03] <ubuntu832> :OOO
[13:03] <rangemonger> dolphin does it right
[13:03] <ubuntu832> fucking awesome rangemonger
[13:03] <rangemonger> man i knew i loved kde for a reason
[13:03] <ubuntu832> thanks a lot man, you've been A LOT of help
[13:04] <ducasse> !language | ubuntu832
[13:04] <rangemonger> im not sure if its the same trash though
[13:04] <ubuntu832> ah sorry ducasse
[13:05] <rangemonger> its a .trash folder on the device
[13:05] <ubuntu832> mmm
[13:05] <rangemonger> so better than thunar, atleast but not the same trash
[13:05] <ubuntu832> right
[13:05] <ubuntu832> yeah thunar has been disappointing to me in several ways
[13:06] <ubuntu832> but willing to try dolphin
[13:06] <rangemonger> pcmanfm has this as an option, also
[13:06] <ubuntu832> i'll give that a go as well
[13:07] <ducasse> i suspect thunar lets gvfs handle trash, but you should really ask the xfce devs about that.
[13:07] <rangemonger> you could make a trsash0 symlink, maybe
[13:07] <\9> caja is pretty nice too
[13:07] <rangemonger> that way it might get rerouted to the main one
[13:07] <rangemonger> oh yeah, ill try caja
[13:08] <chris__> hello, can anybody tell me how i can enable resume/wake on usb (when keyboard button is pressed)?
[13:09] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:09] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: my /etc/issue
[13:09] <emanplays> hi?
[13:10] <Ben64> ubuntu832: what version ubuntu
[13:10] <ubuntu832> xubuntu 16.1 Ben64
[13:10] <Ben64> 16.10?
[13:11] <ubuntu832> yes
[13:11] <emanplays> #ubuntu
[13:11] <rangemonger> are there any other apps like gnome-disks?
[13:11] <emanplays> hello?
[13:11] <rangemonger> ones that let you set automounting on boot
[13:11] <ducasse> !ask | emanplays
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> emanplays  ask your ubuntu question
[13:12] <ubuntu832> i think you have to do that via terminal rangemonger
[13:13] <ubuntu832> rangemonger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Mounting_Partitions_Automatically
[13:13] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: well, not with gnome-disks atleast
[13:13] <rangemonger> but gnome apps look so out of place
[13:13] <ubuntu832> agree
[13:13] <rangemonger> also, caja does it teh same as kde
[13:13] <Mouaad> anyone have an idea about this error: `ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-4.8.15-040815-generic is not supported` ?!!!
[13:13] <netcrash> hello, I have ubuntu always installing 3.13 linux initrd on my system don't understand why since this was long removed , any ideas? MonkeyDust /etc/issue is Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:13] <ducasse> rangemonger: afaik, gnome disks is the only gui tool that generates fstab entries
[13:14] <rangemonger> ducasse: thanks, thats a shame though
[13:14] <rangemonger> ubuntu832: yeah, caja does it the same was a pcmanfm and dolphin, makes a .trash dir on the device
[13:14] <Ben64> everything makes a trash dir on the device
[13:15] <ubuntu832> hrm ok rangemonger
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  what's the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list ... use pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[13:15] <Ben64> well xubuntu 16.04 works fine, about to test 16.10
[13:15] <rangemonger> thats probably how it worked before
[13:15] <Ben64> thinking now it's user error
[13:15] <ducasse> rangemonger: what is it you want - a qt tool?
[13:16] <rangemonger> afaik those are the only 2 trash/recycle methods that any os uses
[13:16] <rangemonger> ducasse: in a perfect world, yeah
[13:16] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647935/
[13:17] <ducasse> rangemonger: i don't do qt, sorry :) #kubuntu might know?
[13:17] <rangemonger> ducasse heh, ok noted
[13:18] <rangemonger> as soon as they answer my quetion, ive gotta go though
[13:19] <ubuntu832> hey if i don't catch you again, thanks a lot again rangemonger
[13:19] <ubuntu832> been very helpful
[13:19] <rangemonger> no prob, glad i could
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  the output of    ls -l /boot/
[13:20] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647948/ , I manually deleted the images for 3.13 since I didn't see them in dpkg --list
[13:22] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  first, try    sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[13:23] <Ben64> ubuntu832: it's a problem in 16.10 xubuntu, install 16.04 or deal with it, or fix it yourself of course
[13:23] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[13:23] <ubuntu832> lol no way really Ben64
[13:23] <Ben64> yes way
[13:24] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647959/
[13:24] <ubuntu832> I'm totally okay with using 16.04 but I'm just surprised that that's the issue
[13:25] <jamesrleimer> morning
[13:25] <ubuntu832> well thanks very much then Ben64 for going through the trouble
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  the output of   df -h
[13:26] <Ben64> so in the end, you ended up picking one of the two options
[13:26] <Ben64> only took ~90 mins
[13:27] <Ben64> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0/+bug/1633824
[13:27] <ubuntu832> well you said to either deal with it or install ubuntu
[13:27] <ubuntu832> installing an older version is a diff option and totally okay with using an LTS version
[13:28] <Ben64> well basically it was deal with it or install something without the problem
[13:28] <ubuntu832> thx for the link Ben64 will contribute
[13:28] <ubuntu832> i was wondering if it was a thunar issue tbh
[13:29] <ubuntu832> or if i messed up something during disk setup... first time installing on a desktop with multiple disks
[13:29] <Ben64> maybe this http://askubuntu.com/questions/836665/ubuntu-16-10-deleted-files-dont-go-to-trash-and-keep-taking-space
[13:29] <Ben64> might want to start with google next time
[13:30] <SchrodingersScat> !google
[13:30] <Ben64> SchrodingersScat: bro
[13:30] <SchrodingersScat> bruh
[13:30] <ubuntu832> thx SchrodingersScat
[13:30] <Ben64> this problem has been circling the drain for an hour and a half
[13:30] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23647978/
[13:30] <ubuntu832> Ben64: you found the problem tho m8
[13:30] <SchrodingersScat> !info trash-cli | ubuntu832
[13:30] <Ben64> it's not unreasonable, after figuring everything out, that i suggest to start with a google next time
[13:30] <Ben64> so don't give me the dumb trigger crap
[13:31] <SchrodingersScat> Ben64: <3
[13:31] <ubuntu832> i did, i just didn't expect it to be a release specific issue
[13:31] <ubuntu832> that would not have been a guess.
[13:31] <ubuntu832> yeah i'll check that out too SchrodingersScat
[13:31] <Ben64> easy mode - ubuntu <version> <basic description of problem>
[13:32] <Ben64> put that into google, drink answers
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  ok, /boot/ is 100% full ... try manually deleting obsolete files (3.13)
[13:33] <ubuntu832> sweet looks like everything will work out then
[13:33] <ubuntu832> thx Ben64, SchrodingersScat
[13:33] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: I did that but when I use "apt install or upgrade" it generates the initrd files
[13:33] <ducasse> netcrash: use dpkg -P package
[13:33] <netcrash> for the 3.13
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  ok, delete them again, then don't upgrade, but use    sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  really? also with apt install? odd...
[13:35] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: ~c = config remaining?
[13:36] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-55-generic
[13:36] <netcrash> WARNING: missing /lib/modules/3.13.0-52-generic
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> ducasse  not sure what ~c stands for
[13:38] <ubuntu832> thx again everyone
[13:40] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: it seems to be, just tested here. til, ty.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  interesting issue, from a technician's point of view ... use this    find / -name "3.13" -exec ls -l {} \; 2> /dev/null
[13:41] <GOPROOph> 12.04 precie
[13:42] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: used dpkg --list | grep 3.13 and remove linux headers for 3.13 , didn't solve the issue
[13:42] <melonsound28> hi there
[13:42] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: that find command didn't return anything
[13:43] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  try synaptic package manager (not installed by default) ... erase all 3.13 from there
[13:43] <ducasse> netcrash: 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-3.13*'
[13:46] <netcrash> ducasse: MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648034/
[13:46] <GOPROOph> this ubuntu 12.04 ,wcdma 3g modem , can,t auto  detect add network manager
[13:46] <smeert> so guys, about this
[13:46] <smeert> http://pastebin.com/4uzFZWSt
[13:46] <ducasse> netcrash: ok, now do 'sudo dpkg -P linux-image-extra-3.13*'
[13:47] <smeert> the two drives make the one md126? How can i be sure?
[13:48] <smeert> or how can i use the md126?
[13:48] <smeert> and why is it so much smaller than the drives itself?
[13:48] <netcrash> ducasse: MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648043/
[13:48] <ducasse> smeert: are you using fakeraid?
[13:49] <smeert> ducasse: its a motherboard integrated raid
[13:49] <smeert> so i guess its fakeraid?
[13:49] <rommel> smeert, that would be software raid
[13:49] <ducasse> smeert: yep. don't do that.
[13:50] <smeert> its only temporary
[13:50] <smeert> i just need to save files on that raid until i get the real raid-card
[13:50] <smeert> in the distant future :)
[13:50] <ivo_> hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ lef ....
[13:51] <ducasse> netcrash: try what MonkeyDust suggested 'sudo aptitude purge ~c'
[13:51] <ivo_> why ist this folder left over
[13:51] <ivo_> is there some other way to completely remove installed apps
[13:51] <ducasse> smeert: i'd *strongly* advice you to use sw raid instead
[13:51] <rommel> smeert, there is nothing wrong but it does make things a bit more complicated to configure and the overhead will make it a bit slower
[13:51] <smeert> ducasse: true
[13:52] <smeert> yeah i thought it wasa real raid but i wasnt
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  can you install synaptic
[13:52] <rommel> smeert, just backup your imporant files
[13:52] <smeert> rommel: its an empty machine basically
[13:52] <smeert> its just not here
[13:53] <smeert> and i need to copy some files over
[13:53] <rommel> smeert, well then dont make more of nothing then nothing really is
[13:53] <thatrandomguy83> Does anyone know how to get rid of the "lvmetad is not active" when booting up?
[13:53] <smeert> rommel: well i still need to temporarily use the space and copy some files to it
[13:54] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: what is the ~c ? ducasse
[13:54] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648057/
[13:54] <ducasse> netcrash: "config remaining"
[13:54] <netcrash> I didn't see when you shown that, will try it now
[13:54] <rommel> smeert, well i have lost the actual question...lol
[13:55] <smeert> rommel: how do i use it :)
[13:55] <rommel> mount it like any device
[13:55] <smeert> i need to make a partition etc
[13:55] <rommel> ell then you would need to do that first
[13:56] <rommel> how did you create this device
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  say Yes
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> hit Yes, rather
[13:56] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: done, I'm deleting the initrd.3-13-x so I can try it again
[13:57] <smeert> mkdir /files && fdisk /dev/md126 -> n ?
[13:57] <smeert> rommel: i did not. ubuntu setup found it
[13:57] <smeert> rommel: or well, the raid itself is created from raid-estup on boot
[13:58] <rommel> smeert, i am a little confused as to what you are doing but you first need to partition a device then create a fs on it then you can create a directory
[13:58] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse no go ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648095/
[13:58] <smeert> rommel: yes that i know, my question is how to :)
[13:58] <rommel> fdisk
[13:58] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse going to try synaptic
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  or Bleachbit
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:00] <rommel> smeert, are you in a desktop env or cli
[14:00] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse using the quick search on synaptic it didn't find anything
[14:00] <netcrash> going for Bleachbit
[14:00] <smeert> rommel: ssh only, so cli
[14:01] <rommel> smeert, so is he device seen in /dev
[14:01] <rommel> is it there
[14:02] <smeert> yes
[14:02] <rommel> ok so running fdisk /dev/md126
[14:02] <rommel> what do you see
[14:03] <rommel> look normal to you?
[14:04] <smeert> yes
[14:05] <smeert> according to i'v never used fdisk :)
[14:05] <smeert> so pretty normal ;)
[14:05] <rommel> then you can partition it then create your fs and so on. treat it as you would any device
[14:06] <rommel> well what have you used... fdisk is pretty standard i think
[14:06] <smeert> i've had not much have to do with system changes. mostly done on the install
[14:07] <smeert> but now i've got
[14:07] <smeert> Device       Start        End    Sectors  Size Type
[14:07] <smeert> /dev/md126p1  2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>  2.6T Linux filesystem
[14:07] <rommel> so it has a partition already
[14:07] <rommel> and apparently a fs
[14:08] <smeert> i made it
[14:08] <smeert> i hit 'n' to make new partition
[14:08] <rommel> ah
[14:08] <smeert> no i should hit 'w' to save it and then mkfs.ext4 /dev/md126  ?
[14:09] <rommel> ok so save ad exit to write the changes then you can mkfs.whatever
[14:11] <smeert> Found a gpt partition table in /dev/md126
[14:11] <smeert> Proceed anyway? (y,n)
[14:11] <smeert> does this matter?
[14:12] <rommel> well not sure if it will this is not your / root device this si a storage device right
[14:12] <intrfear> Hello, I need to dual boot ubuntu and windows10, I would like to create a partition that could be shared between the two operating systems, what would be the best filesystem format for this partition?
[14:13] <smeert> it will not be root at the moment
[14:13] <smeert> intrfear: ntfs?
[14:13] <intrfear> smeert: ok thats what I figured thx
[14:14] <rommel> smeert, i mean gpt is needed to see a drive that size so it really doesnt matter
[14:16] <Black_knight> i suggest ntfs or fts
[14:16] <smeert> rommel: what do you meen seen by what?
[14:17] <smeert> anyway, i can just hit y?
[14:17] <Black_knight> it is file system which is easily understand by windows and ubuntu or any linuc os
[14:17] <Black_knight> linux*
[14:17] <intrfear> And what size for the windows 10 OS partition?  im thinking 40GB should be plenty as I dont use much software
[14:17] <rommel> smeert, yes
[14:17] <rommel> there was a limit on drive size for mbr
[14:19] <kang0> Anyone can help me to create bootable Linux pen drive
[14:19] <melonsound28> how to remove windows 10 which is mounted next to the linux
[14:19] <kang0> How to add w10 in my tablet
[14:19] <smeert> then i just mount it?
[14:20] <rommel> smeert, yeah... it is a drive
[14:21] <Black_knight> yep
[14:21] <Black_knight> kang0: first download ubuntu
[14:21] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse nothing worked
[14:22] <Black_knight> than use uniboot software(freely available) and select pendrive and iso file
[14:22] <Black_knight> and press submit and after 10 min bootable ubuntu pendrive is ready
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  after this one, i'm out of ideas ... install this 3rd party app and use Janitor ... https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public?preview=ubuntu-tweak_0.8.7-1~getdeb2~xenial_all.deb
[14:22] <kang0> What's function of uniboot
[14:22] <Black_knight> uniboot is software to create bootable pendrive
[14:22] <Black_knight> for any os
[14:23] <Black_knight> from debain, redhut,mac to windows
[14:23] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: how is the initrd image generated?
[14:23] <Black_knight> and it is free and avilable for mac,windows and linux
[14:23] <Black_knight> it is created by uniboot directly
[14:23] <smeert> rommel: so okay, i got it mounted
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  that's beyond my knowledge
[14:23] <smeert> shold i use rsycn or scp to move files from a computer to this one?
[14:24] <Black_knight> scp
[14:24] <smeert> and how do i keep permissions and groups?
[14:24] <LordNelthon> I'm trying ubuntu in virtualbox, but when I reach this stage https://puu.sh/sSTj4/bc58d95b03.png it seems the system does not recognise the password input. Sometimes I get a clear purple screen and if I type the password and enter it works
[14:24] <kang0> Someone said me rufcus; what's that site for?
[14:24] <Black_knight> it is much more easy than rsycn
[14:24] <ducasse> smeert: use rsync
[14:24] <smeert> Black_knight: why scp?
[14:24] <Black_knight> go to setting and user and give the permission simple
[14:24] <rommel> either one will work
[14:24] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse Thanks for your help , I'll see if I can discover how to solve this.
[14:25] <smeert> Black_knight: does it keep permissions?
[14:26] <rommel> smeert, are you cp'ing an entire system... like operating linux install over to this
[14:26] <rommel> if you are use rsync
[14:26] <smeert> no im just making a backup of the files while upgrade the computer itself
[14:28] <rommel> then what ever you want ... just -r in scp to preserve permissions i think... use man to verify
[14:29] <smeert> heh, man command not found
[14:30] <rommel> whaa
[14:30] <intrfear> so the people in #windows are telling me dual-booting is a thing of the past and that if I want to use windows and linux I should just VM.  I only use linux for fun, and will need windows 10 for school, so would it be best to install just win10 and run linux in a VM within windows?
[14:30] <smeert> rommel: well -r does a recursive copy
[14:30]  * intrfear is sad to see his linux only laptop go way of the darkside
[14:31] <smeert> so i guess rsycn is my thing here
[14:32] <rommel> smeert, well scp will work too... -rp would accomplish this i think but i am not 100% i honestly have nothing worth baking up
[14:33] <smeert> heh
[14:33] <smeert> well -r only keeps times and dates, -p does a recursive copy, none of them seem to copy the userdata
[14:35] <ducasse> intrfear: there's nothing wrong with dualbooting if you want that?
[14:39] <intrfear> ducasse: yeh, ive dualbooted in the past and never had a problem with it, but if I could run win10 as a virtual machine from within Ubuntu that would be even better
[14:39] <intrfear> i would much rather not have to install windows officialy
[14:39] <koroso> someone can help me plz for that : /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad configuration option: \357\273\277
[14:39] <intrfear> im just worried that someting like autocad may crawl in a VM within ubuntu
[14:39] <ivo_> hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ leftover .... is ther other way to completely remove the package
[14:40] <koroso> whats mean 357\273\277
[14:41] <smeert> damnit im so shy using anything
[14:41] <ducasse> koroso: pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[14:41] <smeert> tell me one more thing
[14:42] <smeert> what credentials to use? i run rsync as root or some backup-user?
[14:42] <rommel> rsync -av
[14:42] <ducasse> smeert: you run it with the privileges you need to copy the files
[14:43] <rommel> so run it as root
[14:44] <koroso> it's done : http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648309/
[14:45] <ducasse> koroso: where/how did you get that error?
[14:48] <netcrash> What's this directory used for /var/lib/initramfs-tools ?
[14:49] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: found this directory with 3.13 entry's /var/lib/initramfs-tools
[14:49] <koroso> shell  : systemctl status service ssh
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  pastebin the output of   ls -l /var/lib/initramfs-tools/
[14:52] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse I executed a different find on the system and found kernel entry's in /var/lib/initramfs-tools/ 3.13 I deleted them and the initrd images in /boot and that solved the issue
[14:53] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse I had this http://paste.ubuntu.com/23648353/, now it's all deleted
[14:53] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: ducasse thanks
[14:53] <ducasse> netcrash: good, so it works normally again?
[14:54] <netcrash> ducasse: yes
[14:54] <smeert> does it matter with rsync if i use the rsync command on the computer FROM im copying or if i run it from the computer im copying TO?
[14:55] <ducasse> smeert: no, not really.
[14:55] <jpd> smeert: no
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> netcrash  glad it's solved, /me off, Motörhead tribute band gig
[14:55] <smeert> okies, so i only need to install rsync on the machine im copying to
[14:56] <koroso> i cant remove openssh-server
[14:56] <ducasse> koroso: which ubuntu version?
[14:56] <koroso> yes
[14:56] <koroso> i'm on lubuntu
[14:57] <koroso> i've installed Kubunu then lubuntu desktop
[15:01] <smeert> hmm
[15:01] <smeert> rsync error: error in file IO (code 11) at main.c(674)
[15:01] <smeert> trying to run rsync here
[15:02] <smeert> do i need to have rsync installed on both compurers?
[15:02] <smeert> computers*
[15:07] <netcrash> MonkeyDust: good show
[15:10] <skinux> Anyone awake and can help with this? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2346761&p=13584270#post13584270
[15:15] <nos09> how do i remove 's' - drwxrws---  7 git git 4096 Dec 18 14:52 demo.git
[15:15] <nos09> its stickybit right?
[15:15] <Marqeaux> 2
[15:16] <Marqeaux> Oops... sorry!
[15:16] <Marqeaux> Hi everyone....
[15:16] <EriC^^> nos09: chmod -s /path/to/dir
[15:16] <EriC^^> nos09: it's the setguid bit
[15:17] <nos09> EriC^^: to turn off?
[15:17] <EriC^^> nos09: yes
[15:17] <nos09> EriC^^: thanks
[15:17] <EriC^^> it means whatever user creates a file in that dir it'll have the dir's group as the group
[15:18] <EriC^^> nos09: no problem
[15:18] <koroso> ducasse do you have any ideas about my pb?
[15:26] <Baidu> acarrillo, hi
[15:26] <Baidu> aau, godd
[15:28] <koroso> someone can help me plz for that : /etc/ssh/sshd_config: line 1: Bad configuration option: \357\273\277
[15:28] <koroso> on sshd_config no error
[15:29] <RajRajRaj> hii am logged in through ubuntu now :)
[15:29] <koroso> Problem appared when i try to change listen port
[15:29] <koroso> on sshd_config
[15:32] <climber386> hi, i'm tring to rebuild ubuntu 14.04 LTS dvd-iso with new kernel 4.4.8 but when i boot i've got this error message "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system". what's wrong?
[15:40] <koroso> noone :/
[15:42] <intrfear> what is the best virtual machine software for running windows within ubuntu?
[15:43] <Baidu> how can i alert someone for my reply?
[15:43] <Baidu> dreamon_, hi
[15:43] <tony_> intrfear wine and virtualbox work well
[15:44] <Baidu> tony_, can we talk?
[15:44] <tony_> sure you can pm me
[15:45] <Baidu> tony_, i want to check if there are any alert sound for this messge?
[15:45] <Baidu> tony_, or my name is highlighted..
[15:45] <tony_> oh
[15:45] <tony_> do you want me to highlight you or pm you
[15:45] <tony_> Baidu
[15:46] <Baidu> tony_, yes yes how to send this kind of message?
[15:48] <jamesrleimer> hi
[15:51] <che2> hi
[15:54] <intrfear> .part
[15:54] <intrfear> oops
[15:57] <cool> Hi everybody!
[16:00] <JWU42> googlefu letting me down - can you manage a box with multiple IPs with UFW (i.e., forward port 53 to a specific IP versus <IP_ADDRESS>) ?
[16:00] <JWU42> I mean to say - allow not forward - no NAT
[16:07] <ducasse> JWU42: you can specify the interface in the rule
[16:07] <kabali> hello
[16:10] <JWU42> ducasse: I'll mess with it - figured as much
[16:10] <JWU42> thanks
[16:11] <JWU42> ducasse: well this is just one NIC with multiple IPs
[16:11] <JWU42> typical box with a /29
[16:12] <blackbird1> Hi, is there a command line that compute the sha1rsa signature of a file ?
[16:12] <ducasse> JWU42: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:13] <JWU42> run (for example) a DNS serve ron a specific IP
[16:13] <JWU42> server has 6 IPs
[16:14] <JWU42> say <IP_ADDRESS>-126
[16:14] <JWU42> runs on .121 and I want to run the DNS on .125
[16:14] <JWU42> and only allow 53 to .125 as an example
[16:15] <JWU42> or ntp on 123 just to .125
[16:15] <JWU42> again - no NAT so apologize for the 10. example
[16:15] <JWU42> all public IPs
[16:16] <tony_> blackbird1 I think you can do sha1sum file
[16:17] <tony_> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/sha1sum.1.html
[16:18] <bork> Got disconnected from my wifi bc. router powered down. Upon repowering my wifi (using network manager) can only see a fraction of the avail. wireless (some kind of frequency cap?) - issue is persistent. -> I cannot see or connect to my home router. Any thoughts?
[16:19] <blackbird1> tony_, sha1sum gives only the sha1 sum
[16:21] <blackbird1> tony_, I have a file that his ans1 hash is :
[16:21] <blackbird1> 13:d=1  hl=2 l=  20 prim: OCTET STRING      [HEX DUMP]:AA6AC1E77ACD0DDD617B8A5659711831A70D86E0
[16:22] <blackbird1> tony_, but the 'sha1sum <the-same-file>' gives another hash that is different of: AA6AC1E77ACD0DDD617B8A5659711831A70D86E0
[16:23] <blackbird1> tony_, I think because the encryption method is sha1rsa
[16:26] <swensson> I've just installed openVPN, anyone have any documentation / recommendations on how to make it secure?
[16:27] <tony_> ah
[16:27] <rommel> https://www.google.com/search?q=securing+openvpn+in+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[16:28] <rommel> google seems to know swensson
[16:46] <lueevee> Does unity still have the amazon thing enabled by default?
[16:46] <ivo_> hey guys I just iunstalled openjdkj-9-jre to play minecraft, but it didn't work, I apt purged it and installed the default-jre. now minecraft works but there is also /etc/java-9-openjdk/ leftover .... is ther other way to completely remove the package
[16:46] <lueevee> Cant you just rm it?
[16:47] <Geo> Hi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. Can anyone help?
[16:47] <ivo_> yes I can
[16:47] <ivo_> but it is strange that it remains after I purge it
[16:47] <lueevee> ivo_ sounds about right for Java to be fair.
[16:48] <blackbird1> lueevee, How did you install it ?
[16:48] <ivo_> this sux, how can I be sure it does what it says, when I can clearly see it doesn't
[16:49] <lauritzt[m]> lueevee: Not on a fresh install of 16.04 or 16.10
[16:49] <lueevee> blackbird1 I havent, yet... lauritzt[m] gotchya. Thanks!
[16:50] <Geo> Hi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. Can anyone suggest where/how to start on fixing?
[16:51] <blackbird1> Geo, try to fix the grub
[16:52] <Geo> ok- suggestions on how?
[16:52] <zzero1> Question I installed ubuntu 16.0.4 x86 in vbox with an ext4 /boot and / also ext4 gpt. I transferred to a  non uefi system. I cant seem to boot grub. I tried to install on /dev/sda and toggle boot flag but I had a message Checking nvram instead of the grub and then immediate reboot. I used a usb drive that had grub installed and I was able to start grub with set root,prefix, insmod
[16:53] <zzero1>  I created a separate fat32 partition with boot flag and installed grub there. But now  the bios say's no bootable device found
[16:53] <zzero1> any ideas ?
[16:54] <cfhowlett> transfering a vbox to an actual machine has/is an uncertain proposition.  some reason you can't do a normal installation, zzero1
[16:54] <someone235> Hi, I have a weird issue. Sometimes my external hard drive becomes read only, and then I remove and reattach it, and then it becomes writable again. Someone knows how to fix this?
[16:55] <blackbird1> Geo, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[16:56] <zzero1> cfhowlett: I fixed everything else
[16:57] <kang0> What's grub
[16:57] <kang0> And when it's required
[16:57] <kang0> Which cases
[16:57] <cfhowlett> !grub | kang0
[16:58] <kang0> What's boot manager
[16:58] <n0name> \join test
[16:58] <kang0> What's difference between Ubuntu and debian
[16:58] <zzero1> helps the computer to start the os
[16:59] <cfhowlett> kang0, suggest you go to your library and read a linux book.  this is not a tutorial channel
[16:59] <Amm0n> zzero1, to use BIOS with GPT you need a BIOS boot partition too. Do you really need gpt?
[16:59] <zzero1> 2 tb drive
[17:00] <kang0> So grub required for Ubuntu?
[17:00] <kang0> Start
[17:01] <gswallow> !lilo | kang0
[17:01] <OerHeks> kang0, yes, grub is the bootloader
[17:01] <OerHeks> lol lilo, unfashionable
[17:01] <kang0> What's  equivalent boot loader forWindows?
[17:02] <cfhowlett> kang0, explain exactly what your end goal is.
[17:02] <zzero1> Amm0n: I shrinked my /boot and I created a fat32 with bios boot flag from gparted. I used that to install grub
[17:02] <zzero1> but no luck
[17:02] <OerHeks> not sure windows has a bootloader, ask in ##windows?
[17:02] <kang0> I am confused whether I need grub or not
[17:03] <cfhowlett> !details | kang0,
[17:03] <pac1> Hi.  I'm trying to set up a usb/ethernet connection to a raspberry pi-zero.  There are instructions on the net that work for windows and MACOS, but a lack of good information on doing it with Ubuntu.  On ubuntu each time the pi-zero boots, a new  device shows up like: enp0s20u9u1u3 (1E:05:08:85:51:E2) for device and Ethernet id.  The device does not provide dhcp services so the pi zero gets <IP_ADDRESS> for an ip address and is
[17:03] <pac1> not contactable
[17:03] <Amm0n> zzero1, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html
[17:03] <zzero1> kang0: if you use ubuntu you probably already use it
[17:03] <OerHeks> kang0, yes you do, grub is the only way to make 2 kernels bootable.
[17:03] <koffeinfriedhof> you may try systemd-boot if you want to avoid grub2. but I dunno if it works with ubuntu
[17:03] <gswallow> There's a systemd boot loader now?  Lunacy.
[17:04] <OerHeks>  systemd-boot, previously called gummiboot, is a simple UEFI boot manager which executes configured EFI images
[17:04] <pac1> any advice on what to read up on to get a stable virtual ethernet device on the ubuntu side, that will provide dhcp services to so the dhcpcd on the pi zero can get a proper address?
[17:04] <OerHeks> i would not try that one
[17:05] <Geo> Hi - tried installing ubuntu to a mirror'd raid. It got to the end, and said grub-install failed (no further info). Now, I can't boot to the old working disks, nor the new disks. From a live cd, I've used fdisk to make sure the bootable partitions are marked as such. Can anyone suggest where/how to start on fixing?
[17:05] <EriC^^> Geo: pastebin sudo parted -l
[17:05] <EriC^^> zzero1: also pastebin sudo parted -l
[17:06] <zzero1> yes
[17:06] <zzero1> I got to boot from live cd
[17:06] <EriC^^> ok
[17:07] <Geo> ok, booting the live cd, one moment please
[17:12] <Geo> and related but unrelated, if i mark two differnet drives as bootable, i should be able to pick from both those drives at boot, correct?
[17:14] <Geo> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/23649016
[17:14] <Guy1524> hey guys, I am using ubuntu 16.04 with radeon open source drivers for my radeon hd 5450.  In war thunder I get many visual artifacts (trees and explosions are all blue, planes are white, and the sky is a bunch of weird colors, i assume this has to do with opengl driver bugs
[17:14] <Guy1524> so would updating mesa help?
[17:14] <Guy1524> if so, how do I update mesa
[17:17] <Guy1524> I currently have mesa 13.1
[17:17] <Guy1524> this is because I installed gallium nine for wine
[17:18] <Guy1524> so I don't think upgrading mesa would help much
[17:18] <Guy1524> since 13.1 is pretty new
[17:18] <blackbird1> sha1sum <file>: to compute the sha1 of the file. What's the command to compute sha1rsa (sha1WithRSAEncryption)
[17:18] <blackbird1> ?
[17:18] <Guy1524> is there anything else I could try to stop all these weird artifacts from happening
[17:18] <Geo> EriC^^: paste.ubuntu.com/23649016
[17:20] <Fritigern> Guy1524: I have no Radeon, but you may want to look into this, dunno how helpful it will be through: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/12/stable-mesa-drivers-ubuntu-ppa
[17:20] <EriC^^> Geo: did you assemble the raid stuff?
[17:20] <someone235> Hi, I have a weird issue. Sometimes my external hard drive becomes read only, and then I remove and reattach it, and then it becomes writable again. Someone knows how to fix this?
[17:20] <someone235> when I do dmesg I see "rejecting I/O to offline device"
[17:21] <Guy1524> Fritigern: Thanks, but I already have mesa 13.1, custom patched with gallium nine, so I don't think I can upgrade unfortunately
[17:21] <EriC^^> Geo: linux doesn't need the bootable flag, it doesn't really matter if its set or not
[17:21] <Geo> EriC^^: I did before I installed, and I can from the live cd (the file system appears ther)
[17:21] <Geo> *the installed file system appears there
[17:21] <EriC^^> Geo: ok run sudo apt-get install mdadm
[17:21] <EriC^^> then sudo mdadm --assemble --scan
[17:21] <Geo> yes, that works from live cd
[17:22] <nullbyte_> how can i made a multiple boot for all linux systems with the same parameters like for one default e.g. Ubuntu ? e.g. nomodeset vga=0x317 net.ifnames=0 for all of them? for 4-5 Linux OSs
[17:22] <nullbyte_> when update-grub is runned
[17:23] <OerHeks> nullbyte_, <teraflops> edit /etc/default/grub ?
[17:23] <Geo> EriC^^, I've done a few things from this point, to include mounting it/chrooting and trying install-grub, but still get errors
[17:23] <EriC^^> Geo: what errors?
[17:24] <EriC^^> did you mount bind /sys and the rest of the virtual fs?
[17:24] <Geo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/254491/failed-to-get-canonical-path-of-cow
[17:24] <Geo> I followed the instructions for 16.04 on this answer
[17:24] <loslinux> hola
[17:24] <Geo> I'll do it again, they all blur together at this point
[17:25] <EriC^^> Geo: ok, mount the main partition and then run the command
[17:25] <Amm0n> zzero1, you need to create a 32kb-1MB BIOS Boot Partition with partition type 0xEF02 not FAT32. Then install grub on the whole device, not a partition.
[17:25] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[17:25] <EriC^^> Geo: then sudo chroot /mnt
[17:25] <zzero1> EriC^^: the / is mounted as sda2_crypt. I have a usb as sda now http://pastebin.com/jMR1dWqu
[17:26] <loslinux> kepler
[17:26] <loslinux> e
[17:26] <loslinux> e
[17:26] <loslinux> e
[17:26] <loslinux> e
[17:26] <loslinux> e
[17:26] <Geo> EriC^^: just ran updategrub2
[17:27] <Geo> no errors for those disks
[17:27] <Geo> (i've done this before as well- still didnt work after reboot)
[17:31] <Geo> any other ideas, EriC^^?
[17:32] <EriC^^> Geo: did you run grub-install --recheck /device/here ?
[17:32] <Geo> i think this is what gave me errors before
[17:32] <Geo> first, it says 'installing for i386-platform'
[17:33] <Geo> which seems wrong
[17:33] <EriC^^> that's nortmal
[17:33] <EriC^^> *normal
[17:33] <Geo> ok
[17:33] <Geo> file system ext2 doesnt support embedding
[17:33] <sp3ck> Hi all, does anyone know what the hell post-up commands in /etc/network/interfaces don't work?? I'm trying to add some routes but it seems it doesn't honor it ...
[17:33] <Geo> which is also wierd, b/c its ext4
[17:34] <sp3ck> why*
[17:34] <EriC^^> Geo: did you give it the device or partition?
[17:34] <Geo> yes- /dev/md4
[17:34] <EriC^^> zzero1: can you pastebin "sudo parted -l" something is a little off i think
[17:34] <Geo> and then it errors:
[17:34] <Geo> "will not proceed withh blocklists"
[17:34] <EriC^^> Geo: try /dev/sda
[17:34] <EriC^^> or whatever disk you have set to boot in the bios
[17:35] <Geo> I'm in my chroot right
[17:35] <Geo> *now
[17:35] <Geo> do I need to repeat with that drive instead?
[17:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:35] <EriC^^> i mean
[17:35] <EriC^^> just the grub-install command
[17:36] <zzero1> EriC^^:  http://pastebin.com/LHs767NB
[17:36] <Geo> so even though I'm chroot'd to drive 2, running grub-install for drive1 will still work?
[17:36] <EriC^^> Geo: they're all part of the same array right?
[17:37] <Geo> no- I ran this on /dev/md4 - the array itself
[17:37] <Geo> should it have been run on a component instead?
[17:37] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, did you mount anything yet?
[17:37] <EriC^^> Geo: yes
[17:38] <Geo> ok, trying again
[17:39] <zzero1> EriC^^: anything else
[17:39] <Geo> ...attempting to install grub to a disk w/ multiple partition labels
[17:39] <EriC^^> zzero1: what's mounted til now?
[17:39] <zzero1> the sda is a usb drive
[17:39] <Geo> embedding is not possible, but this is required for raid install
[17:39] <Geo> i did /dev/sdg ... should it have been /dev/sdg1?
[17:40] <zzero1> http://pastebin.com/1qPuqUV4
[17:40] <EriC^^> Geo: no i think you should use the device
[17:40] <Geo> me too... but im puzzled by that error
[17:41] <EriC^^> Geo: try another disk
[17:41] <EriC^^> zzero1: so you're chrooted?
[17:42] <Geo> trying the other...
[17:42] <Geo> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1539205
[17:42] <Geo> maybe this
[17:42] <Geo> oh
[17:42] <Geo> sdh worked
[17:42] <Geo> !!
[17:42] <zzero1> no but I mounted the root from initramfs mount using cryptsetup by hand  like this /sbin/cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb2 sda2_crypt
[17:42] <Geo> so what does that mean
[17:42] <zzero1> why the sdb
[17:43] <Geo> reboot now?
[17:43] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, so it's the actual install
[17:43] <zzero1> the usb drive messes the names
[17:43] <zzero1> yes
[17:43] <EriC^^> zzero1: type "cat /etc/fstab" and paste it
[17:43] <EriC^^> Geo: nice
[17:43] <zzero1> hold on
[17:43] <EriC^^> Geo: update-grub
[17:43] <EriC^^> ten reboot
[17:43] <EriC^^> *then
[17:44] <Geo> doh :(
[17:44] <gebruiker> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/12/fedora-and-ubuntu-0days-show-that-hacking-desktop-linux-is-now-a-thing/ what can I do about this?
[17:44] <zzero1> http://pastebin.com/SBFB3XNH
[17:44] <zzero1> the root is supposed to be sda
[17:44] <zzero1> when there is no usb drive
[17:44] <zzero1> and I don't plan to use one
[17:45] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, type sudo blkid /dev/sdb3
[17:45] <EriC^^> zzero1: get the uuid and type sudo nano /etc/fstab
[17:45] <EriC^^> paste this line
[17:45] <EriC^^> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[17:45] <zzero1> I use one now because I need the grub rescue prompt. cause I have installed grub in the usb and I use the grub rescue to boot
[17:46] <EriC^^> put your uuid instead of the one above
[17:46] <zzero1> http://pastebin.com/DAPx0WRt
[17:47] <EriC^^> zzero1: np, fstab uses the uuid, the naming doesn't matter
[17:47] <EriC^^> ok add the line with your uuid
[17:47] <zzero1> true but about the kernel root parameter ?
[17:48] <EriC^^> zzero1: it also uses uuid
[17:48] <zzero1> well that is useful to the computer :P
[17:48] <zzero1> I prefer to see what boots by name
[17:49] <zzero1> but that can change
[17:49] <zzero1> like here
[17:49] <EriC^^> can't help you there :P
[17:50] <EriC^^> just do "ls -l" and compare the uuid's
[17:50] <EriC^^> in grub
[17:51] <Geo> ok, redid, updated grub, rebooting...
[17:52] <Geo> nope
[17:52] <Geo> still getting to initramfs ash shell
[17:52] <EriC^^> set the drive first in the boot order
[17:53] <EriC^^> what does it say before the shell drops?
[17:53] <EriC^^> zzero1: any progress?
[17:53] <Geo> nothing
[17:53] <EriC^^> Geo: ok, first set the drive you put grub on as the first drive
[17:54] <zzero1> nope I should make the partition type 0xEF type instead of fat32
[17:54] <zzero1> I 'm looking for instructions
[17:54] <EriC^^> zzero1: that's the partition type not the filesystem
[17:54] <zzero1> with parted
[17:54] <zzero1> yeah
[17:54] <EriC^^> zzero1: i'm instructions, ask here :D
[17:54] <Geo> picked one of the two drives (not sure which is which)
[17:54] <EriC^^> zzero1: do sudo cgdisk /dev/sdX and change it
[17:54] <Geo> I see /dev/md4 clean, bla bla......
[17:54] <Geo> but it hangs there
[17:54] <Geo> should i try the other one?
[17:55] <Geo> I'm not sure whivh one sdh was
[17:55] <EriC^^> sdh is the one that worked?
[17:55] <Geo> that i installed to, yes
[17:55] <EriC^^> try both i guess
[17:55] <EriC^^> it's the 750gb one
[17:55] <EriC^^> ata..blabla
[17:56] <Geo> wierd- when i ctrl-ald-del'd, it flashed 'ubuntu16' for a second
[17:56] <zzero1> Hex code or GUID (L to show codes, Enter = ef02):
[17:56] <zzero1> enter
[17:56] <Geo> ok, the other drive just freezes, nothing happens (doesn't even leave the select screen)
[17:56] <zzero1> correct ?
[17:57] <EriC^^> you need ef00
[17:57] <EriC^^> zzero1: ^
[17:57] <EriC^^> Geo: ok, put the first one then
[17:57] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub then press "e"
[17:58] <EriC^^> and go to the line that says linux /boot/vmlinuz ...quiet splash and remove quiet splash and add rootdelay=40
[17:58] <zzero1> then grub-install
[17:58] <zzero1> after the write
[17:58] <EriC^^> zzero1: no, there's some stuff left
[17:58] <zzero1> go on
[17:58] <EriC^^> zzero1: type sudo mkdir -p /boot/efi
[17:59] <zzero1> I 'm not in an efi system
[17:59] <zzero1> sure ?
[17:59] <EriC^^> zzero1: you should be
[17:59] <zzero1> no
[17:59] <EriC^^> or you dont want that?
[17:59] <zzero1> I have bios
[17:59] <zzero1> only
[17:59] <EriC^^> cant you switch to uefi?
[17:59] <EriC^^> aha
[17:59] <zzero1> and gpt because of a 2 tb drive
[18:00] <Geo> ok, done
[18:00] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, you only need a 1mb partition then for grub
[18:00] <Geo> f10 to boot?
[18:00] <zzero1> I cant use that 70 m ?
[18:00] <EriC^^> zzero1: shrink the fat32 one, and make a 1mb partition with the type ef02
[18:00] <zzero1> hold on
[18:01] <Geo> (got a blank screen)
[18:01] <EriC^^> zzero1: also, remove the stuff you put in fstab
[18:01] <EriC^^> zzero1: you can if you want
[18:01] <Geo> oooh!
[18:01] <Geo> ctrl--alt-f6 gave me a shell
[18:02] <EriC^^> Geo: try with "nomodeset" in the line as well
[18:02] <Geo> well, before i do anything else
[18:02] <Geo> I'm on the bash shell
[18:02] <Geo> so it has booted!
[18:02] <zzero1> I plan to
[18:02] <zzero1> remotely
[18:02] <zzero1> I have to leave in about 2 hours
[18:03] <ticktock> Ubuntu is for the weak
[18:03] <zzero1> and I was hoping I would have unattended remote access to this system
[18:04] <Geo> what interface is enp4s0?
[18:04] <EriC^^> Geo: ethernet
[18:04] <Geo> I've never seen that before, it seems to have replaced my eth0
[18:04] <EriC^^> zzero1: did you remove it from fstab?
[18:04] <Geo> is that new for 16?
[18:05] <EriC^^> Geo: yeah that's systemd notation
[18:05] <zzero1> the boot ?
[18:05] <EriC^^> predictable interface naming or something like that
[18:05] <EriC^^> zzero1: yeah the /boot/efi line
[18:05] <zzero1> there is no efi line
[18:05] <zzero1> in fstab
[18:05] <zzero1> only the /boot
[18:05] <EriC^^> zzero1: the one i asked you to add earlier
[18:05] <EriC^^> UUID=0A87-44C2 /boot/efi       vfat    umask=0077      0       1
[18:06] <zzero1> damn
[18:06] <zzero1> I must sent you my local machine contents
[18:06] <zzero1> sorry
[18:07] <EriC^^> zzero1: i mean if you added it earlier, remove it
[18:07] <EriC^^> if you didn't add it nevermind
[18:07] <zzero1> I did not added it
[18:07] <EriC^^> ok, nevermind
[18:07] <EriC^^> did you make the ef02 partition?
[18:08] <Geo> EriC^^ thank you very much for your time
[18:08] <EriC^^> Geo: no problem
[18:09] <zzero1> ef00
[18:09] <Geo> lots more to do to keep it this way, but at least its up
[18:09] <Geo> have a great day, many karma kudos to you
[18:09] <EriC^^> Geo: yeah
[18:09] <Geo> hags
[18:09] <Geo> *d
[18:09] <EriC^^> Geo: you too
[18:09] <EriC^^> zzero1: ef02
[18:10] <emilio[m]> Posted a File: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/VApGbzFyKHblBCofSvJsjacI - VectorBugReport-1482084595686-emilio_matrix.org.zip (148KB)
[18:10] <EriC^^> zzero1: gpt + legacy needs a 1mb ef02 partition for grub to be installed to
[18:11] <zzero1> done 02
[18:11] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, try sudo partprobe
[18:11] <zzero1> I reinstalled grub in sdb
[18:12] <EriC^^> then sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdb
[18:12] <makos2> hello
[18:12] <zzero1> hi
[18:13] <emilio[m]> Solstag.matrix.org is trying to find me but not capable.? I am eabdow (username) and riot as @emilio.matrix.org.??
[18:13] <zzero1> no errors reported
[18:13] <emilio[m]> Thank's
[18:13] <zzero1> you were going to say about partprobe
[18:13] <zzero1> sth
[18:13] <makos2> guys can some
[18:13] <EriC^^> zzero1: nevermind
[18:13] <zzero1> reboot ?
[18:13] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, try sudo update-grub
[18:13] <zzero1> done
[18:14] <EriC^^> zzero1: ok, try rebooting
[18:14] <emilio[m]> This is at cellphones
[18:14] <makos2> can some one tell me were i can find a hacking channel
[18:14] <emilio[m]> Android
[18:14] <makos2> hello
[18:15] <squinty> !alis | makos2
[18:15] <emilio[m]> I found him as email but always offline
[18:15] <ceibal> transformic
[18:15] <ceibal> transformice
[18:16] <makos2> so cool
[18:18] <zzero1> I see light
[18:19] <EriC^^> is it purple?
[18:21] <zzero1> the checking nvram is sth grub related ?
[18:21] <zzero1> cause I think its efi related
[18:21] <EriC^^> i think so too
[18:22] <shaddy> join /#rust
[18:22] <makos2000> sup
[18:22] <zzero1> well
[18:23] <zzero1> I think I know what I have to do
[18:24] <zzero1> now
[18:24] <EriC^^> what's that?
[18:27] <zzero1> EriC^^: now with my other new efi system I hate grub and any bootloader :P
[18:28] <fujitsu> ok
[18:29] <zzero1> EriC^^:  hold I'm close to the light
[18:29] <zzero1> I can feel it
[18:29] <zzero1> in the end of the tunnel
[18:31] <zhiiya> test
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[18:32] <zhiiya> hello all
[18:32] <fujitsu> hello
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[18:33] <\9> could this bot please be removed from this channel?
[18:33] <zhiiya> thanks all
[18:33] <Baidu> sure. just for test
[18:33] <\9> this isn't the place to test irc bots
[18:34] <\9> pretty sure there's a channel for that
[18:34] <Baidu> \9,  XD sorry for that
[18:34] <zzero1> damn it the the sda has become sdb permanently
[18:34] <zzero1> chroot
[18:34] <zzero1> from live cd
[18:34] <\9> zzero1: what's wrong with that?
[18:35] <\9> the labeling is pretty arbitrary
[18:35] <pavlos> Baidu, try #test for testing
[18:35] <zzero1> I 'm not gonna have the the usb
[18:35] <zzero1> and I fear grub related errors
[18:35] <Baidu> pavlos, thanks for that.
[18:38] <theparadoxer02> Any vnc viewer for linux ?
[18:39] <zzero1> EriC^^: thanks a lot
[18:39] <EriC^^> zzero1: no problem
[18:40] <pavlos> theparadoxer02, there is vncviewer, https://linux.die.net/man/1/vncviewer
[18:40] <cadeskywalker> _thelion_: remmina
[18:40] <zzero1> pavlos surname if I may ?
[18:41] <pavlos> zzero1, it is greek
[18:41] <zzero1> I know
[18:41] <cadeskywalker> theparadoxer02: remmina
[18:41] <zzero1> and I ask if I may
[18:42] <zzero1> R*S ?
[18:42] <pavlos> zzero1, surname comes from Andros, of a famous philosopher
[18:42] <zzero1> okay
[18:42] <zzero1> sorry
[18:42] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, remmina is really good nd it supports a lot of other protocals too
[18:43] <zzero1> I thought you could be someone I know in the linux local community
[18:43] <pavlos> zzero1, I'm not in Greece, I'm in Phoenix, AZ
[18:44] <zzero1> your name tells an other story
[18:44] <theparadoxer02> DigitalIceCream: i am not able to congigure
[18:44] <theparadoxer02> It is showing nad file descripter
[18:46] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, thats odd
[18:46] <theparadoxer02> Bad*
[18:48] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, is it giving you that error when you run the program, or when you try to connect?
[18:48] <bork> could networkmanager be messing with my NIC channel access?
[18:49] <gebruiker> !grsecurity
[18:50] <theparadoxer02> When i clicked on 'new' it has 5 options whuch onw should i choose?
[18:51] <theparadoxer02> Vnc virtual network computing or or vnc incoming connection ?
[18:52] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, should be Virtual Network Computing
[18:54] <theparadoxer02> Its showing unknown autjentication scheme
[18:55] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, have you set the smbpasswd on the server?
[18:56] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, soryy *vncpasswd
[18:58] <DigitalIceCream> theparadoxer02, also make sure encryption is enabled on the client
[18:59] <miczac> Hi, I'm trying to figure out the routes I'd need on a server with multiple NICs without IP-forwarding enabled in the kernel. Is that possible?
[19:09] <_bart> Hi people, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a sony vaio laptop, but I'm stuck at this: https://d17oy1vhnax1f7.cloudfront.net/items/3f0k2g1f3Y390n3n1w3a/IMG_20161218_200647173_HDR.jpg?v=0f8a93a8
[19:09] <_bart> any ideas on what to do?
[19:11] <bekks> _bart: Continue and install grub later?
[19:12] <_bart> bekks: ok I will choose continue without a bootloader
[19:12] <_bart> how to install grub if I can't boot? through the live cd?
[19:14] <monsterco> hi everyone - we have a portal that required daphne which required us to go to Ubuntu 8 from 7. Our programmer change sysvinit to initd or vice versa....besides the point. Now, we are seeing TWO cron processes running which of course f*ks up the whol system as everything is being done twice. Where can I look for sign of trouble?
[19:14] <bekks> _bart: yes.
[19:14] <bekks> monsterco: Everything older than 12.04.5 isnt supported anymore.
[19:15] <monsterco> I see this two:
[19:15] <_bart> bekks: I'm a total noob, how do I set up grub?
[19:15] <monsterco> root     14050  0.0  0.0  48860  1464 ?        S    13:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/CRON
[19:15] <monsterco> root     14051  0.0  0.0  48860  1460 ?        S    13:55   0:00 /usr/sbin/CRON
[19:15] <bekks> _bart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[19:15] <bekks> monsterco: Which Ubuntu version are you on?
[19:15] <monsterco> bekks - sorry, it's debian 8
[19:16] <bekks> monsterco: So please proceed to the debian support, this is Ubuntu support only.
[19:16] <monsterco> tnx sorry
[19:17] <_bart> oh wow I just started up without the live cd and it booted to ubuntu!
[19:17] <_bart> how is that possible
[19:19] <NXLX> HELLO
[19:20] <_bart> NXLX: HI
[19:20] <NXLX> hı
[19:23] <_bart> OK now I have about half of the available disk space I should have though, this is what I see : http://postimg.org/image/p00amf0kt
[19:23] <NXLX> xit
[19:23] <NXLX> exit
[19:23] <_bart> 100 GB mounted to /, but I should be able to have about 100 more
[19:25] <_bart> can I somehow add the extra space?
[19:28] <theparadoxer02> Do i have to log into the hexchat everytime i open it?
[19:28] <bekks> theparadoxer02: you dont log into hexchat, you log into your freenode IRC account.
[19:29] <bekks> theparadoxer02: And it is up to you wether you want to do that - in most cases you want to.
[19:29] <theparadoxer02> I mean i have joined many channels on freenode
[19:29] <bekks> theparadoxer02: And?
[19:29] <bekks> theparadoxer02: you can configure channels for autojoin if you want to.
[19:30] <theparadoxer02> So when i installed hexchat is again asking to join channel
[19:31] <theparadoxer02> Also the username
[19:31] <theparadoxer02> Do i have to register again
[19:32] <bekks> theparadoxer02: Unless you configure hexchat to save those credentials, you need to enter them manually.
[19:34] <theparadoxer02> Okay
[19:58] <_bart> Hi people, how do I use these disk drives I see listed: http://postimg.org/image/p00amf0kt
[19:59] <\9> _bart: type 'lsblk' in console
[19:59] <rdh> _bart, you are using them, they are mounted where "Mounted on" says
[20:05] <_bart> rdh, \9: thanks but I have only 100GB mounted, am I not missing some space?
[20:06] <_bart> I'll paste the lsblk stuff, just a sec
[20:07] <_bart> http://pastie.org/10983836
[20:14] <studio-user162> hi there! i am trying to recover grub with boot-repair tool. when I try to run it, it says I booted from UEFI so he needs a 100mb partition with boot flag. When I do that, it says now GPT detected, and that I need a BIOS - root partition... I dont know what to do...
[20:17] <_bart> it seems like ubuntu installed twice?
[20:17] <_bart> why?
[20:18] <Pelle`> anyone else have problem with cifs freezing after computer has been in suspension/sleep? any workaround?
[20:24] <freqnasty> when i try to scp files from my laptop to my desktop i get the 'man in the middle' warning, how can i fix this?
[20:30] <freqnasty> im trying to scp some files from my laptop to my desktop but im getting connection refused
[20:30] <freqnasty> i have the address and port right, what could it be?
[20:30] <freqnasty> i can ssh in just fine
[20:41] <saige> freqnasty: What is the command you are using?
[20:43] <freqnasty> scp -r -P 55 <file> <user>@<host>:<directory>
[20:44] <freqnasty> i cant even ssh in now
[20:44] <freqnasty> im getting connection refused
[20:46] <saige> Are you using fail2ban or something like that which locks you out after a certain number of unsuccesful connection attempts?
[20:46] <freqnasty> no, but it was my firewall, i forgot to allow ssh
[20:46] <freqnasty> thanks anyway