[05:35] <hondje> and since I have so many friends there in .nl, it would have been easy
[05:35] <Seveas> goldfish_, not really
[05:35] <hondje> goldfish_: Or have a friend in .nl buy it for me, and let me play with it :)
[05:35] <Seveas> persons can get domain names now to
[05:35] <goldfish_> Well in ireland you need to.
[05:35] <hondje> Guys are nice enough to give me webspace in .nl, too
[05:36] <goldfish_> You can't buy a .ie site unless you prove you own a company with teh name of the site u want
[05:36] <tiggggr> not all european domains are available to normal persons, for example .fi domains require a company
[05:36] <hondje> Oh
[05:36] <goldfish_> I presumed it was the same for other countries in europe
[05:36] <hondje> .nl just requires a dutch address
[05:36] <Petani> try it
[05:36] <goldfish_> oh right
[05:36] <goldfish_> cool
[05:36] <Petani> http://www.myserv.us
[05:36] <hondje> abuse.nl is another one we have, she's selling it though :(
[05:36] <Seveas> goldfish_, since jan. 1st 2004 persons can get a .nl domain
[05:36] <Petani> http://www.fatimahchik.com
[05:36] <goldfish_> Seveas: Cool.
[05:36] <Seveas> .be can be grabbed by anyone
[05:37] <goldfish_> Wish they did that over here.
[05:37] <hondje> I want tobeornotto.be
[05:37] <Seveas> Petani, stop spamming
[05:37] <djp> hi. can anyone tell me if when you run a .deb package, whether a log is created anywhere?
[05:37] <Seveas> djp, no
[05:37] <hondje> which always bugged me....
[05:37] <nirk> please help me, anyone: I can't access the network in a recently fresh-installed hoary. the problem first appeared when I upgraded from warty. neither static nor dhcp works, neither bridging nor nat on router. it works fine in windows and did in warty. thanks
[05:37] <goldfish_> hehe
[05:37] <nirk> and: how do you download all of hoary so all the packages resides on your harddisk?
[05:38] <djp> infact, if you have never run a .deb package before and then choose to do so, what files are created, apart from the .deb files?
[05:38] <Seveas> nirk, you do not want that :)
[05:38] <HrdwrBoB> hondje: it is however easy to search installed packages by date, I'm fairly sure it's stored
[05:38] <nirk> Seveas: no?
[05:38] <hondje> nirk: wget on the us.archive.ubuntu.com perhaps
[05:38] <djp> Seveas: thanks. no other files apart from those contained in the .deb file are installed on running a .deb file?
[05:38] <Seveas> nirk, it's about 70 GB iirc
[05:38] <HrdwrBoB> djp: all the system software is installed from '.deb' packages,
[05:38] <hondje> HrdwrBoB: I didn't notice the date thing
[05:38] <Seveas> djp, correct
[05:38] <hondje> is it in the meta info, or just in the ls -l part?
[05:38] <nirk> hmm
[05:38] <Seveas> djp, dpkg -L will list these giles
[05:38] <Seveas> files*
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> it's in the currently installed meta info for the package
[05:39] <Jormundgand> Will Ubuntu be getting a graphical installer at any point?
[05:39] <djp> HrdwrBoB: thanks
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> Jormundgand: yes
[05:39] <Seveas> Jormundgand, it's a breezy goal
[05:39] <Jormundgand> Ah.
[05:39] <djp> Seveas: thanks
[05:39] <Sensebend> will it have the option for text based install?
[05:39] <goldfish_> It's basically graphical with hoary :)
[05:39] <hondje> I used to like them, but now I prefer not using overhead when I'm trying to install stuff
[05:39] <Seveas> Sensebend, yes
[05:39] <Sensebend> well I'm satisfied :)
[05:39] <hondje> yeah, btw awesome work on making the sarge beta installer nicer
[05:39] <delire> djp: dpkg knows the status of any package installed. 'dpkg -l | grep <packagename>'
[05:40] <delire> djp: apt is just a frontend to dpkg
[05:40] <delire> ok.. and a bit more ;)
[05:40] <ssam> the ubuntu text install is smiple enough, though mouse support would be nice
[05:40] <Sensebend> you know what else would be cool :)
[05:40] <Seveas> delire, dpkg -l can handle wildcards too
[05:40] <hondje> delire: that's a neat trick, thanks
[05:40] <delire> Seveas: yes it can
[05:40] <Sensebend> having an option to netinst the distro, like debian has
[05:40] <hondje> I like the keyboard setup in the installer
[05:40] <Seveas> delire, so no need for grep :)
[05:40] <sylvan> how do you supply custom gcc options to be used for all installs? (like "-march=pentium4")? I remember there was a make.conf or something like that in FreeBSD but I can't find it in linux
[05:40] <delire> see dpkg -S also
[05:40] <Marble2> is there any good wallpaper rotaters our there?
[05:40] <Sensebend> would be great for those who are doing custom installs
[05:40] <Seveas> Sensebend, there is such an option
[05:40] <djp> delire: ok, thanks. where does it store the info?
[05:40] <Sensebend> oh :)
[05:40] <hondje> But I'd like the option to mess w/ xorg.conf before booting back up...the installer always has me set up for the wrong video
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> sylvan: you don't need to do that and there's no where to do it
[05:41] <HrdwrBoB> sylvan: packages are already built for you
[05:41] <Sensebend> it exists?
[05:41] <hondje> you could do it in your home for when you build stuff
[05:41] <Seveas> sylvan, ubuntu is a binary distro
[05:41] <Sensebend> where does one find the infomation on that?
[05:41] <Seveas> Sensebend, search the wiki for netboot install :)
[05:41] <sylvan> well, I _want_ to build for example firefox with some optimization options
[05:41] <delire> Seveas: grep is a good habit regardless ;)
[05:41] <Seveas> delire, true
[05:41] <hondje> I'd like to rebuild firefox myself
[05:41] <hondje> It seems so very very slow in ubuntu
[05:42] <goldfish_> it does
[05:42] <delire> hondje: strange.
[05:42] <hondje> All I have are the bugmenot and adblock extensions, and it spins and doesn't show the whole screen regularly
[05:42] <HrdwrBoB> sylvan: then you can download the source with apt-get source mozilla-firefox
[05:42] <HrdwrBoB> and build it
[05:42] <hondje> I like the mozilla mplayer plugin, that's awesome
[05:43] <hondje> much better than fucking with plugger for hours X-(
[05:43] <delire> i wonder if the experience of firefox being slow is relatively true to all ubuntu users?
[05:43] <hondje> I always assumed it was just me
[05:43] <Sensebend> firefox being slow?
[05:43] <Sensebend> I haven't noticed
[05:43] <hondje> I monitored it, and when it's loading pages the gui parts just die until it's done...
[05:43] <LinuxJones> delire, you have to disable ipv6 in FF
[05:43] <hondje> or worse, when it has to load up java
[05:43] <ssam> have you try the fire speed up hacks
[05:43] <soujiro> one question , how can i uninstall gcc 3.3 ?
[05:44] <Seveas> java is slow
[05:44] <hondje> I did the speed up ones in the ubuntu handbook
[05:44] <hondje> soujiro: apt-get remove --purge gcc
[05:44] <Seveas> soujiro, apt-get remove gcc-3.3
[05:44] <ssam> disabling ipv6, pipelining etc
[05:44] <delire> LinuxJones: i don't use Ubuntu, ff is fine here on debian testing/unstable
[05:44] <hondje> er, sudo apt-get remove --purge gcc
[05:45] <hondje> delire: I find it runs great in debian sarge and sid, but in ubuntu it stalls
[05:45] <LinuxJones> delire, sorry I just poped in and seen your comment :)
[05:45] <delire> hondje: odd
[05:45] <delire> LinuxJones: happens easily ;)
[05:45] <hondje> delire: So you have the slowdowns too? It really hates loading java
[05:46] <difeta> hey all! I've instlled wv so i beagle can read word documents, but there is not a development library, any ideas?
[05:46] <delire> hondje: no it's fast here. also on the 30 odd mepis workstations at work.
[05:46] <goldfish> lol
[05:46] <hondje> hrm, I wonder why it does that to me
[05:46] <delire> hondje: i use debian testing/unstable btw
[05:46] <hondje> It's not so terrible i can't stand it, but it sucks when I'm trying to get my pron-browse on and I have 20 tabs open
[05:46] <goldfish> hondje: i get the slowdowns
[05:46] <LinuxJones> hondje, is it generally slow or long dns lookups ?
[05:46] <delire> hondje: so perhaps ask other ubuntu users
[05:47] <hondje> LinuxJones: I haven't noticed it being tied into DNS, but I haven't looked much
[05:47] <goldfish> i have disabled ipv6 but i still find it slow
[05:47] <Seveas> LinuxJones, for me it's only VERY long dns lookups
[05:47] <hondje> it seems to be more tied into loading the documents before doing anything else
[05:47] <hondje> like a large html page, or a good slashdot discussion
[05:47] <Seveas> hmm, that's a contradictio interminis
[05:47] <Seveas> "slashdot discussion"
[05:48] <hondje> Hey, two or three have existed
[05:48] <soujiro> but i want to remove gcc 3.3 completely because i need to compile a program with gcc 3.4 , and if i remove gcc -3.3 base ,synaptic says that i must uninstall aa lot of programs :( , what should i do ?
[05:48] <hondje> in the science section, that don't go main page ;-)
[05:48] <sylvan> HrdwrBoB: well how do i specify compiler options in that case?
[05:48] <goldfish> soujiro: from a terminal
[05:48] <hondje> soujiro: I don't think there is a gcc 3.4 package, is there?
[05:48] <Seveas> LinuxJones, what's the dns related problem with FF?
[05:48] <hondje> If there isn't, you can compile it yourself and keep it in a seperate tool-chain thing
[05:48] <soujiro> there is
[05:48] <soujiro> because i have installed it
[05:49] <soujiro> but when i do gcc -v it keeps saying that i havfe gcc 3.3.5
[05:49] <LinuxJones> Seveas, hondje ok in FF hit ctrl+t to open a new tab. Then type about:config, in the filter section type in ipv in the network.dns.disableIPV6 set the value to true and restart FF.
[05:49] <soujiro> have*
[05:49] <HrdwrBoB> sylvan: I'm not sure tbh, you'll have to look up the doco on how to build debian packages
[05:49] <Seveas> LinuxJones, tyvm!
[05:49] <hondje> LinuxJones: It's already true
[05:50] <hondje> I think I did that from the ubuntu handbook
[05:50] <goldfish> soujiro: from a terminal run , sudo apt-get remove gcc --purge
[05:50] <soujiro> i did that
[05:50] <LinuxJones> hondje, ok have a peek here >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts
[05:50] <sylvan> well, synaptic seems to support source repositories so it must be possible to specify that it should build from source first, and install binary packages as a last resort?
[05:50] <goldfish> soujiro: no errors?
[05:50] <hondje> sending me to the mercy of the freepers? :)
[05:51] <soujiro> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:52] <kengur> anyone using dual core processor system?
[05:52] <jrhodes> not yet ;)
[05:52] <soujiro> goldfish, i have already uninstalled gcc 3.3 , but the thing is , that i install gcc 3.4 and the system keeps showing that i have gcc 3.3.5
[05:52] <goldfish> oh
[05:52] <soujiro> because it doesnt remove gcc -base
[05:52] <kane> wtf is this unable to lookup geneous via gethostbyname()
[05:52] <knase> I have just installed cedega and steam. The game is working, but i got a very bad fps. what is wrong?
[05:52] <goldfish> hmmmmm
[05:53] <Seveas> kane, depends on what you are doing...
[05:53] <kane> well when i try to sudo anything
[05:53] <Seveas> knase, if you have an nvidia/ati card: install the binary drivers...
[05:53] <hondje> LinuxJones: I tried that last thing, I haven't done that, so I'll report back if it works :)
[05:53] <Seveas> kane, i've seen that before
[05:53] <sylvan> how can I apt-get a specific version of firefox (not 1.0.2 but rather 1.0.4)?
[05:53] <LinuxJones> hondje, ok GL ;)
[05:54] <Seveas> kane, can you put the content of /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[05:54] <Dave2|irssi> The Ubuntu 1.0.2 has security fixes backported
[05:54] <knase> seveas, I think i allready have done that
[05:54] <Seveas> sylvan, FF in ubuntu is 1.0.4 in disguise
[05:54] <kane> Password:postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[05:56] <sylvan> Seveas: Say what?
[05:56] <Seveas> sylvan, FF in ubuntu has all 1.0.4 security patches applied
[05:56] <Seveas> making it equivalent to 1.0.4
[05:56] <sylvan> so why not just use 1.0.4?
[05:57] <Seveas> sylvan, because hoary is frozen
[05:57] <Seveas> no new features will be added
[05:57] <topyli> sylvan: because hoary is a stable release
[05:57] <Seveas> only security fixes
[05:57] <sylvan> but I can build 1.0.4 and install it myself without any problems then?
[05:57] <Seveas> sylvan, why would you want that?
[05:57] <hondje> who do I suck up to so I can have bzflag2 in the next ubuntu?
[05:58] <hondje> Or should I just offer to maintain it myself
[05:58] <Seveas> the last would be the easiest hondje
[05:58] <sylvan> Because it's a newer version, and if I build it myself the app I use 99% of my time can be built with some optimization flags
[05:58] <topyli> hondje: advertise your awesome maintainer skills on #ubuntu-motu :)
[05:58] <hondje> hehe
[05:58] <Seveas> check wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates and #ubuntu-motu
[05:58] <Seveas> sylvan, if you install it into /usr/local it'll be fine
[05:59] <sylvan> hondje: bzflag TWO? There's a new one?
[05:59] <sylvan> sweet!
[05:59] <hondje> sylvan: well, bzflag 2.something
[05:59] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ apt-cache search bzflag
[05:59] <Seveas> bzflag - a 3D first person tank battle game
[05:59] <Seveas> bzflag-server - bzfs - BZFlag game server and proxy
[05:59] <hondje> It's awesome though, they did a GREAT job
[05:59] <soujiro> is there anyway that i can make the system replace gcc-3.3-base with gcc -3.4-base ?
[05:59] <kane> Seveas:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/287920
[05:59] <Seveas> ah it's 1.10
[05:59] <sylvan> I only have the bzflag that synaptic reported
[05:59] <Seveas> sorry hondje :)
[06:00] <hondje> Seveas: I think they froze it from sarge like DAYS before 2 came to it
[06:00] <Seveas> kane, as i though: your /etc/hosts is non-functional
[06:01] <kestas> does anyone know the keycode to make expocity work?
[06:01] <kestas> theres 0 documentation
[06:01] <Seveas> kane, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/287922
[06:01] <kane> Seveas:  all the years of linux never seen that before
[06:02] <Seveas> boot into recovery mode and put that in /etc/hosts instead of the current content
[06:02] <Seveas> kane, you're the second person to report this
[06:02] <kestas> ah its alt-tab
[06:02] <Seveas> kane, have you done something special during install?
[06:03] <kane> Seveas:  no
[06:03] <bobi> hi
[06:03] <Sensebend> hey bobi
[06:03] <Sensebend> welcome to the channel
[06:03] <bobi> tnx
[06:03] <hondje> Sensebend: was it always this busy here?
[06:04] <^thehatsrule^> usually
[06:04] <Sensebend> this channel is usually pretty busy
[06:04] <goldfish> yep
[06:04] <kisain> i'm setting up ubuntu to use software raid 1 and at this point in configureing it it's asking me to input the number of spare devices for the raid 1 arry the devault is 0 (zero) is this right?
[06:04] <kane> Seveas:  i cant write to file anyhow i'll have to boot to suse or something to write to it
[06:04] <Sensebend> it's certainly joined
[06:05] <Sensebend> err grew
[06:05] <Seveas> kane, booting into recovery mode should work too, but indeed you need to boot into another linux-instance
[06:05] <cliebow_> kane can you mount -o remount the drive
[06:05] <Seveas> kane, did sudo work before?
[06:05] <xlaxz> hi
[06:05] <Sensebend> I believe I started coming in here occasionally after the warty release
[06:05] <Sensebend> I remember the meetings for hoary development
[06:06] <cliebow_> i started monitoring when ltsp and ubuntu started talking..
[06:06] <Sensebend> I was monitoring the devel list, but stopped as it was too much traffic for my inbox :)
[06:06] <tosti> connect
[06:07] <kane> Seveas: i just install fresh copy
[06:08] <kane> bbiab see what happens
[06:08] <xlaxz> aniway speak french?
[06:08] <^thehatsrule^> xlaxz, see ubuntu-fr
[06:09] <retiarius> running 5.04 i386 on a k8m800
[06:09] <retiarius> any change of getting via drivers to work?
[06:09] <xlaxz> ok thanks ;)
[06:09] <Medrakil> hi guys, I'm having a little trouble setting up a Windows shared printer over SMB - i can connect to it, but it never prints anything..
[06:09] <HrdwrBoB> retiarius: in what respect
[06:09] <thenuke> how much hoary-install needs HD space?
[06:09] <retiarius> i am using the vesa driver at the moment but would like to have xv support
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> thenuke: about 2gb give or take
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> bare minimum
[06:10] <thingfish> Medrakil: I have a similar problem.  Haven't figured out how to get it to work yet.
[06:10] <HrdwrBoB> retiarius: oh for the built in video
[06:10] <retiarius> yes
[06:10] <thenuke> I have 2.4gb disk, and thought to give a try to gnome but I guess that it would be pure pain on that p2-300/64 =)
[06:10] <kisain> does anyone have an idea?
[06:10] <delire> Medrakil: i'd see how far you can get with CUPS at http://localhost:631
[06:10] <Medrakil> thingfish, what have you tried? maybe what doesn't work for you will for me :)
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> retiarius: odd that you wouldn't have a thrid party video card on a system you need xv on, but I think for the moment you'll have to make do
[06:11] <thenuke> It just would be a lot easier to keep the gnome than setup up some other desktop manager by my self
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> however you can pickup.. any card ever, and it'll be cheap and supported
[06:11] <Medrakil> delire, how do i enable the administrative options in the cups web interface? it tells me to use administration | printers
[06:11] <cliebow_> anyone using ubuntu as ldap server?
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> thenuke: 64mb ram is more a limitation than the cpu
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> cliebow_: not at the moment
[06:11] <thingfish> Medrakil: I've just tried setting it up using "new printer" and using the information for it that I know to be correct.
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> but I'm using it to server other things
[06:12] <xlaxz> bye room
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> mostly web
[06:12] <cliebow_> i can see adding ldap client ok..but not much there on ldap server
[06:12] <thingfish> I mean, I've set this printer up in several distros successfully.
[06:12] <delire> Medrakil: on my systems that is root, i don't use sudo as a primary administration priveledge
[06:12] <retiarius> HrdwrBoB, I have an fx5200 sitting here, will that route work?
[06:12] <thingfish> and when I try to log in to localhost:631, I get the page, but can't change anything because it asks for a password and doesn't like any I give it.
[06:12] <HrdwrBoB> retiarius: that will be perfect
[06:13] <retiarius> any tricks? just stick it in and pray?
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> well, you'll have to change x to 'nv' not 'vesa'
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> but yeah
[06:13] <delire> thingfish: do you have a root account?
[06:13] <HrdwrBoB> it should just work
[06:13] <thingfish> delire: yes
[06:13] <delire> thingfish: and you've tried this?
[06:13] <thingfish> yes
[06:13] <nickrud> Medrakil, adduser cupsys shadow will enable the :631 address
[06:14] <retiarius> HrdwrBoB, thanks, shutting down to try it out
[06:14] <flodine> anyone know how to regenerate menu in fluxbox with ubuntu
[06:14] <delire> thingfish: do as nickrud just suggested. that is your solution
[06:14] <nickrud> Medrakil, you remove cupsys from shadow when you're done
[06:14] <HrdwrBoB> delire: by default ubuntu disables access to the web based cups admin iirc
[06:14] <ccfiel> hello..ppl.. can ubutun linux detect an ntfs hd drives?
[06:14] <nickrud> *should
[06:14] <thingfish> ok, cool, thanks delire and nickrud.
[06:14] <delire> HrdwrBoB: this is stupid. it is the easiest method for setting up printers IMO
[06:14] <Medrakil> nickrud,  how?
[06:14] <Medrakil> oh nm
[06:14] <nickrud> :)
[06:15] <delire> ccfiel: yes it can
[06:15] <thingfish> biab
[06:15] <HrdwrBoB> delire: I used the gnome printer .. thing.. to setup my printer and it worked perfectly and trivially
[06:15] <ccfiel> delire: i have put my ntfs drive..and boot from a live ubuntu cd... im a newbie in linux.. how can i browse my ntfs drive?
[06:15] <delire> HrdwrBoB: it's been unreliable for me. localhost:631 has never failed yet.
[06:15] <Medrakil> nickrud, it still asks for user/pass, root/mypass doesn't work..
[06:15] <nickrud> I used the shadow trick so I could give a meanful name to printers
[06:16] <delire> ccfiel: you'll need to mount it, if it's not mounted already. to check go to a terminal and type 'mount' to see if it's mounted.
[06:16] <HrdwrBoB> delire: yeah I don't use many non network printers so eh
[06:16] <delire> ahah
[06:16] <cliebow_> ccfiel: did you try mount -t ntfs?
[06:16] <nickrud> Medrakil, I think you need to have a real root password
[06:16] <Medrakil> nickrud, i have
[06:16] <flodine> anyone on flux
[06:17] <delire> cliebow_: he's using the liveCD. it may be mounted already
[06:17] <dockane> Gentoo Linux causes global warming! Needlessly recompiling everything uses power. Fossil fuels are used to generate that power. Hug a tree, use Ubuntu!
[06:17] <Medrakil> nickrud, still does'nt want it
[06:17] <nickrud> Medrakil, I just did it here
[06:17] <jrhodes> argh
[06:17] <delire> dockane: hehe
[06:17] <jrhodes> never mind ubuntu's source repos
[06:17] <ccfiel> delire: i cannot understand what its says... i will past the output after i type mount..
[06:17] <delire> dockane: nice thesis
[06:17] <cliebow_> ok pardon me..i have bveen doing redhat
[06:18] <ccfiel> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$ mount
[06:18] <ccfiel> /dev/mapper/casper-snapshot on / type auto (rw,noatime)
[06:18] <ccfiel> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[06:18] <ccfiel> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[06:18] <ccfiel> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[06:18] <ccfiel> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[06:18] <ccfiel> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[06:18] <ccfiel> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[06:18] <ccfiel> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[06:18] <ccfiel> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$
[06:18] <delire> ccfiel: don't flood!
[06:18] <ccfiel> delire:  sorry..
[06:18] <delire> ccfiel: well it's not mounted
[06:18] <delire> ccfiel: type 'fdisk -l' to list the partitions ubuntu knows about
[06:18] <Medrakil> i gotta go, thanks delire and nickrud
[06:18] <ccfiel> delire: ok..
[06:18] <delire> ccfiel: sudo fdisk -l
[06:19] <Marble2> is there any good wallpaper rotaters our there?
[06:19] <delire> ccfiel: sudo == 'super user do'
[06:19] <ccfiel> delire: ok.. there is an output where can i paste it? so that i would not flood..
[06:20] <ccfiel> delire: or i just paste the last part.?
[06:20] <delire> ccfiel: well a fast way to sort through the output is 'sudo fdisk -l | grep ntfs'
[06:20] <ccfiel> /dev/hdc1   *           1        2434    19551073+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[06:20] <delire> ccfiel: ok, good news
[06:20] <ccfiel> delire: that was the last part..
[06:20] <Marble2> anyone?
[06:21] <delire> ccfiel: make a directory to mount it to with 'mkdir ~/windows'
[06:21] <thingfish> Doing "adduser cupsys shadow" but I still can't get authenticated trying to manage printers at localhost:631.
[06:21] <brandonn> can anyone recommend an Access like program in Ubuntu/Kubuntu?
[06:21] <ccfiel> delire: ok done..:)
[06:21] <delire> ccfiel: then the next step is to mount the partition to that place: 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/windows'
[06:22] <thingfish> brandonn: the new OpenOffice.org will have an app similar to Access.
[06:22] <anto9us> brandonn: check out openoffice 2 beta
[06:22] <LinuxJones> thingfish, sudo gnome-cups-manager
[06:22] <ccfiel> delire: done..
[06:22] <ccfiel> delire: what's next? :)
[06:22] <brandonn> yeah, I was wondering about that, but I have 2.0 installed, and all I see is the standard 4 apps
[06:22] <thingfish> LinuxJones: ok, I'll try that...
[06:23] <delire> ccfiel: ok, now you should be able to browse the contents of that directory using the graphical file manager
[06:23] <carthik> why is it that netstat -nlt does not list my :631 port as "listening"
[06:23] <thingfish> LinuxJones: oh wait I've already tried that.
[06:23] <carthik> I am trying to get a printer to be shared over a network
[06:23] <LinuxJones> carthik, try netstat -tap or lsof -i
[06:24] <zxc> how do you install fonts on ubuntu?
[06:24] <ccfiel> delire: there is an error..permision denied..
[06:24] <anto9us> brandonn: open any one of the apps and select file | new | Database
[06:24] <thingfish> I get "failed request with status 1030" over and over in the terminal when starting gnome-cups-manager as root.
[06:24] <hondje> I just put them in /usr/share/fonts, zxc
[06:24] <jrhodes> arghable
[06:24] <ccfiel> delire: what's wrong? :(
[06:24] <jrhodes> stupid hard drive
[06:24] <LinuxJones> thingfish, you enabled the root account ?
[06:24] <carthik> LinuxJones, it still isnt listening on 631 after I find out using those commands
[06:24] <thingfish> LinuxJones: yes
[06:24] <delire> ccfiel: ok, it may be because we mounted it as root. now unmount it with 'sudo umount ~/windows && mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 ~/windows'
[06:25] <LinuxJones> carthik, /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[06:25] <delire> ccfiel: then try to browse it again.
[06:25] <carthik> LinuxJones, when i restarted cupsd , it said "cupsd: Child exited with status 98!"
[06:25] <cliebow_> ccfiel: maybe just su - and become root..can you do that?
[06:25] <brandonn> anto9us: bet you didn't see this question coming, what's the best way to install JRE in ubuntu?
[06:25] <LinuxJones> carthik, ouch
[06:25] <carthik> LinuxJones, what gives?
[06:25] <delire> ccfiel: this can all be automated with an installation of ubuntu, whereby an entry for your windows drive is listed in a file system table at /etc/fstab
[06:25] <LinuxJones> thingfish, your in the account that you installed ubuntu with ?
[06:26] <thingfish> LinuxJones: yes
[06:26] <zxc> hondje, when I try and drag the folder it says "You do not have permissions to write to this folder."
[06:26] <anto9us> brandonn: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[06:26] <zxc> hondje, I mean drag a folder to it
[06:26] <hondje> zxc: You have to do it as root
[06:26] <hondje> er, with sudo
[06:26] <thingfish> LinuxJones: I'm in the only user account besides root.
[06:26] <ccfiel> delire: there is a msg mount: only root can do that
[06:26] <LinuxJones> thingfish, sype sudo -s (enter your user password) and try from there
[06:26] <zxc> hondje, how do I move the folder in root?
[06:26] <ccfiel> cliebow: what do u mean?
[06:27] <hondje> zxc: with the mv or cp command
[06:27] <SADI> Hi all
[06:27] <linuxamoeba21> hey all. i'm trying to add a launcher to my gnome menu, and when i right click, it doesnt give me that option
[06:27] <LinuxJones> bbiab
[06:27] <SADI> I am Sadi
[06:27] <SADI> from Macedonia
[06:27] <hondje> I would use sudo cp -R <folder> /path/to/location
[06:27] <hondje> That does w/ permissions you need, and the -R makes it recursive
[06:27] <anto9us> welcome to ubuntu Sadi
[06:28] <Diabolic> :)
[06:28] <zxc> hondje, sudo cp /desktop/blah/blah /usr/share/fonts ?
[06:28] <ccfiel> delire: still there? :(
[06:28] <cliebow_> ccfiel: sounds like you may not be getting root permission..i think you can sudo -s -H to become root
[06:28] <hondje> zxc: if it's a folder, don't forget the -R
[06:28] <linuxamoeba21> anyone know how to add launchers to the gnome menu in hoary?
[06:28] <thingfish> doing sudo -s gnome-cups-manager gets me /usr/bin/gnome-cups-manager: /usr/bin/gnome-cups-manager: cannot execute binary file
[06:29] <zxc> hondje, where does the -R go?
[06:29] <anto9us> linuxamoeba21: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[06:29] <cliebow_> any tricks to downloading the iso? i cant seem to get beyond 160 meg
[06:29] <hondje> just like cp -R /desktop/blah/blah /usr/share/fonts
[06:30] <linuxamoeba21> anto9us: thanks man i guess i was looking at non-hoary instructions
[06:30] <nickrud> thingfish, just sudo -s  to get a root shell
[06:30] <zxc> hondje, I've copied a folder to /usr/share/fonts, do I have to do anything now to get it to show in the apps I use?
[06:30] <thingfish> nickrud: I am already at a root shell prompt.
[06:30] <hondje> zxc: I don't 'think' you do
[06:30] <nickrud> thingfish, I've been thinking, and it's possible I restarted cupsys before using :631
[06:30] <jroes_> anyone ever get the following in their dmesg?  "Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00323533..."
[06:30] <hondje> maybe restart X, so the X font server looks around again
[06:31] <thingfish> nickrud: ok, how do I restart cups?  I'll try that.
[06:31] <nickrud> thingfish, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[06:31] <ccfiel> cliebow_: your right..but now when i went to file browser and open the folder windows there is no files and folder on it..its empty..
[06:31] <carthik> nickrud, when i restarted cupsd , it said "cupsd: Child exited with status 98!" - any idea why?
[06:31] <nevyn> jroes_: bad ram or kernel bug
[06:31] <nevyn> jroes_: or bad swap
[06:31] <delire> ccfiel: sorry, phone. try 'sudo mount -t ntfs -o user /dev/hdc1 ~/windows'
[06:31] <jroes_> hmm
[06:31] <thingfish> nickrud: ok, thanks.
[06:32] <delire> ccfiel: that will give you as user the right to browse and unmount this partition
[06:32] <jroes_> the RAM has been working for a while but recently windows had trouble installing on this machine, so I decided to install Linux
[06:32] <nickrud> carthik, not really :)
[06:32] <thingfish> nickrud: by gosh, that did it.
[06:32] <nickrud> thingfish, that worked?
[06:32] <thingfish> yes
[06:32] <thingfish> well, at least I'm in the interface now.
[06:32] <nevyn> jroes_: working doesn't mean it's not bad.
[06:32] <jroes_> :P
[06:32] <nevyn> jroes_: memory problems are nasty
[06:32] <ccfiel> delire: its ok now... but when i browse using file browser.. in windows dir it is empty..
[06:32] <cliebow_> ccfiel: can you cd to the folder where you moutned the drive..see what is there?
[06:33] <jroes_> probably not a kernel bug...  any idea how I could deal with it?
[06:33] <ccfiel> cliebow_: ok..
[06:33] <jroes_> without buying ram, that is :P
[06:33] <nevyn> jroes_: run memtest on the system for a few hrs
[06:33] <cliebow_> nautilus is fluky sometimes
[06:33] <nevyn> jroes_: test the disk with badblocks or similar
[06:33] <delire> ccfiel: 'cd ~/windows; ls -l'
[06:33] <nevyn> jroes_: how much ram is there?
[06:34] <nickrud> carthik, are you starting cupsd directly, or using the init.d script?
[06:34] <jroes_> well, if I run memtest and it reports an error - and I don't want to buy ram... is there a way I can just work-around the ram :P
[06:34] <jroes_> nevyn: 128
[06:34] <Varanger> hi!
[06:34] <ccfiel> cliebow_, delire: in the terminal.. using cd command.. the files is listed... but in the GUI file browse it is empty why?
[06:34] <Fator_Dee> 2 of my 3 ram chips just got borked and I'm left with 128megs :-p
[06:34] <nevyn> jroes_: linux supports memory holes
[06:34] <Varanger> I have installed Hoary (first time with Ubuntu)
[06:34] <jroes_> sweet :)
[06:34] <jroes_> that's what I was hoping for...
[06:34] <Varanger> how can I install amule?
[06:35] <goldfish> apt-get install amule?
[06:35] <cliebow_> nautilus does some sort of cache thing..it hasnt updated to reflect the new mount..
[06:35] <nevyn> jroes_: there was a patch floating around where you could specify a region of the physical map that was dodgy to avoid.
[06:35] <jroes_> that's awesome
[06:35] <nevyn> jroes_: I don't know if it was merged into the mainline kernel
[06:35] <nickrud> Varanger, it's available in the universe repository, you'll need to enable it
[06:35] <Varanger> goldfish: it says that the package isn't there
[06:36] <jroes_> I am starting to read "Linux Kernel Development", this would be something cool to experiment with
[06:36] <Lafitte-> Varanger, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/    walk through to install amaule
[06:36] <jroes_> but.. this is for a friend
[06:36] <nickrud> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto/
[06:36] <jroes_> :X
[06:36] <goldfish> Varanger: have u added universe and multiverse in sources.list?
[06:36] <ccfiel> cliebow_: how will let my files showed in the files browser.. it hers something to refresh it?
[06:36] <goldfish> oh
[06:36] <goldfish> hehe, yeah go there :)
[06:36] <Varanger> goldfish: actuallynot
[06:36] <Lafitte-> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:36] <cliebow_> ccfiel: i am not sure how to restart nautilus in ubuntu
[06:36] <nickrud> lol, they both work :)
[06:37] <delire> ccfiel: nautilus is a bit strange sometimes. it takes a while. if it was mounted at startup your files would appear there. install Ubuntu ;)!
[06:37] <cliebow_> logout..and back in maybe?
[06:37] <nickrud> cliebow_, ccfiel killall nautilus, and it will restart
[06:37] <cliebow_> thank you
[06:37] <Lafitte-> Varanger,  got here to add repository http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[06:37] <delire> ccfiel: you can try 'killall nautilus && nautilus'
[06:37] <delire> nickrud: ahah ;)
[06:37] <jroes_> welp, off to memtest
[06:37] <jroes_> thanks nevyn
[06:38] <nickrud> gnome-session manager has nautilus registered :P
[06:38] <goldfish> Varanger: yeah ubuntuguide.org
[06:38] <delire> nickrud: gotcha, don't use it myself
[06:38] <Varanger> Lafitte: should I add multiverse ? or just with universe is enough ?
[06:38] <sebas_1> this is for NICKRUD: you deserved an upgrade to an higher level
[06:38] <sebas_1> nickrud it worked
[06:38] <ccfiel> delire, cliebow_, nickrud: thanks its works.. :)
[06:39] <Lafitte-> Varanger,  universe works
[06:39] <delire> ccfiel: great ;) as i say if you had a proper file system table entry this would be solved.
[06:39] <cliebow_> ccfiel: cool..amazing you can give help with all of an hours experience in ubuntu
[06:39] <nickrud> sebas_1, after all that work, it better :)
[06:39] <sebas_1> nickrud it worked yeeeaaaah
[06:40] <Lafitte-> Varanger,  i did all of them
[06:40] <nickrud> sebas_1, makes a real difference, eh?
[06:40] <ccfiel> delire, cliebow : im planning to used ubuntu.. :)
[06:40] <sebas_1> can i put this away for someoneelse
[06:40] <delire> ccfiel: good for you ;) hang out here and get help anytime you need it.
[06:40] <ccfiel> delire, cliebow_: can i change gnome to kde?
[06:41] <delire> ccfiel: seen kubuntu?
[06:41] <garo> Which file contains the modules that ubuntu loads at boot
[06:41] <delire> ccfiel: 'kde ubuntu'
[06:41] <Varanger> Lafitte: my sources.list points to "pe.archives.... "
[06:41] <ccfiel> delire nope..
[06:41] <delire> ccfiel: http://kubuntu.org/
[06:41] <Varanger> Lafitte: will it the same if I point it to "us...."
[06:41] <delire> ccfiel: it's ubuntu in every respect other than the Desktop Environment
[06:42] <thingfish> but still, as before, I can set up the printer all I want, it looks successful, but nothing prints.
[06:42] <delire> ccfiel: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=306&slide=1
[06:42] <cliebow_> ccfiel:in redhat i could change /etc/X11/xinit/Xsessions or run something called switchdesk..
[06:43] <thingfish> I am probably not getting the printer URL right.
[06:43] <delire> ccfiel: many use it.
[06:43] <carthik> Hi, can someone please help me figure out my cups woes?
[06:43] <nickrud> thingfish, I don't network much, but I heard someone mention using ipp browsing instead of samba, windows 2000 and later
[06:43] <brandonn> how difficult would it be to install a package from breezy in to hoary?
[06:43] <carthik> The Cups' cup of woes runneth over!
[06:43] <thingfish> nickrud: ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[06:43] <Seveas> cliebow_, if you want both gnome and kde installed, just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:43] <delire> carthik: hehe what's up?
[06:43] <ccfiel> delire, cliebow: ill try to check this out..:)
[06:44] <cliebow_> i see..sonot installed by default?
[06:44] <garo> Which file contains the modules that ubuntu loads at boot ?
[06:44] <delire> ccfiel: or, if as Seveas says, just 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' and you'll have both gnome and kde
[06:44] <Seveas> cliebow_, kubuntu has kde by default, ubuntu has gnome
[06:44] <delire> garo: do you have an '/etc/modules'? (debian here)
[06:44] <cliebow_> ahhh////////////////; thank you
[06:45] <carthik> delire, when I restart cupsd, I get a "child exited with status 98!" error. when I try netstat -nlt, I find that no ones listening to poor port 631. nc -l -p 631 says " Can't grab <IP_ADDRESS>:631 with bind: Permission denied".
[06:45] <cliebow_> sorry bout that
[06:45] <carthik> delire, I need to get others printing via the network to this printer connected to a ubuntu desktop
[06:45] <zazeem> ??
[06:45] <delire> carthik: have you gone through the whole printer registration process at http://localhost:631 ?
[06:46] <zazeem> hi i just got an icon set no idea how to install and use it can someone direct me?
[06:46] <carthik> delire: ubuntu does not allow me to configure cups via the browser. asks me to go cry on the System->Administration->Printers screen
[06:46] <chope> hi, what could i use to make a simple gui to run a terminal program (ctronome), with different options (ctronome -b 150 or ctronome -b 170, for ex.)?
[06:46] <carthik> delire, I edited cupsd.conf and that is why I wanted to restart cups
[06:47] <delire> carthik: ahah, i see.
[06:47] <ccfiel> delire: so i need to download it again? kubuntu? :(
[06:47] <zazeem> hi i just got an icon set no idea how to install and use it can someone direct me?
[06:47] <carthik> delire, if could see that port 631 is being listened-to, I would be happier
[06:47] <zazeem> please
[06:48] <delire> ccfiel: have you installed ubuntu already? if not grab kubuntu yes
[06:48] <Varanger> is it the same the source.list points to pe.archives.ubuntu.com than us.archives.ubuntu.com ?   (I live in Peru)
[06:48] <ccfiel> delire: well i have downloaded the iso... of ubuntu..
[06:49] <cliebow_> ccfiel: you have any trouble dowloading?
[06:49] <delire> carthik: 'netstat -tupa' ?
[06:49] <ccfiel> cliebow_: its takes 2 days to download..the iso..:(
[06:49] <Myrtti> michael__: happy flight ;-)
[06:50] <cliebow_> mine just randomly quits..between 80 and 16 meg
[06:50] <ccfiel> cliebow_: so i have to wait another 2 days..if i want kde.. ?
[06:50] <delire> ccfiel: i would install ubuntu and then 'apt-get update && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' to kave KDE as a DE
[06:50] <nickrud> zazeem, cd ~/.icons && tar xf /path/to/icon/theme
[06:50] <bharath> anyone know how to get X11 forwarding working again on breezy?
[06:50] <whyameye> ripping audio from Sound Juicer and K3b: it takes more than 5x longer than when running Windows. Is there a setting I can check?
[06:50] <delire> ccfiel: the only issue with this is you will have both KDE and Gnome on your system
[06:50] <carthik> delire there is a "tcp 1 0 localhost.localdo:32853 localhost.localdoma:ipp CLOSE_WAIT 11587/gnome-cups-ma" line in there
[06:50] <ccfiel> delire: ah..ok..
[06:50] <delire> whyameye: DMA ?
[06:50] <whyameye> delire, how do I check DMA?
[06:51] <Dave2|irssi> hdparm /dev/device
[06:51] <delire> carthik: you have 'sudo gnome-cups-manager'?
[06:51] <nickrud> zazeem, eh, tar xvf for a gz file, or tar xjf for a bz2 file
[06:51] <nickrud> zazeem, eh, tar xzf for a gz file, or tar xjf for a bz2 file
[06:51] <nickrud> fingle fiddle, sorry
[06:51] <hondje> dont' forget the -, tar -xvjf
[06:51] <krg> You'd think tar would be enough of a grownup to figure that out now.
[06:51] <Dave2|irssi> hondje: that's not needed
[06:51] <hondje> no?
[06:51] <Dave2|irssi> krg: it does
[06:51] <ccfiel> delire: in your opion what is more stable and easy to manage... ubuntu + gnome or ubuntu+kde? my history is that im using windows xp..as of now..
[06:52] <Dave2|irssi> krg: with recent versions
[06:52] <carthik> delire, sorry, what does that mean? I never played with the default gnome-cups-manager
[06:52] <hondje> Dave2|irssi: Oh hey! When they change that?
[06:52] <Dave2|irssi> Though I use a crappy script I wrote to do rar, tar, etc
[06:52] <hondje> I noticed a bit ago that ps doesnt want -'s anymroe
[06:52] <kane> i'm back
[06:52] <Dave2|irssi> no idea
[06:52] <carthik> hondje, yes :)
[06:52] <hondje> drives me nuts, that
[06:52] <hondje> I like switches to be clearly defined
[06:52] <hondje> delimited perhaps is the better word
[06:53] <whyameye> If I type hdparm /media/cdrom I get  BLKROGET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[06:53] <whyameye>  BLKRAGET failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[06:53] <whyameye>  BLKGETSIZE failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[06:53] <delire> whyameye: 'hdparm -i /dev/cdrom'
[06:53] <kane> whyameye:  try /dev/hdc
[06:53] <Seveas> whyameye, that's ok
[06:54] <delire> carthik: nor have i, i just see that that's your cups manager
[06:54] <ccfiel> delire: in your opion what is more stable and easy to manage... ubuntu + gnome or ubuntu+kde? my history is that im using windows xp..as of now.. i want shift to linux ubuntu.. :)
[06:54] <krg> I'm sold as soon as I figure out what software to use to work as an iTunes shared library.
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> stable? well, kde is more windows friendly
[06:54] <thingfish> does a shared printer on a winxp box have its own IP address, and if so, how can I find out what it is?
[06:54] <^thehatsrule^> but it locks up more
[06:54] <delire> ccfiel: well i teach university students and give them the option of either. nearly all linux newbies prefer KDE.
[06:54] <nickrud> krg,  I hear pymusick (sp?) does itunes
[06:54] <Seveas> thingfish, no it has no ip adress of its own
[06:55] <^thehatsrule^> you need more ram for kde ;p
[06:55] <Seveas> only the XP machine has
[06:55] <krg> Pymusique.
[06:55] <thingfish> Seveas: that's what I was kind of thinking.
[06:55] <whyameye> delire, kane, Seveas, I did it and get  Model=SONY CD-RW/DVD-ROM CRX810E, FwRev=1.0b, SerialNo=
[06:55] <whyameye>  Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }
[06:55] <whyameye>  RawCHS=0/0/0, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
[06:55] <whyameye>  BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=0
[06:55] <whyameye>  (maybe): CurCHS=0/0/0, CurSects=0, LBA=yes, LBAsects=0
[06:55] <whyameye>  IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:180,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
[06:55] <whyameye>  PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
[06:55] <nickrud> krg, does it?
[06:55] <carthik> delire, so dead-end it is :)
[06:55] <whyameye>  DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[06:55] <whyameye>  UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2
[06:55] <whyameye>  AdvancedPM=no
[06:55] <whyameye>  Drive conforms to: device does not report version:  1
[06:55] <carthik> delire, I teach at a univ too :)
[06:55] <Seveas> whyameye, DO NOT paste in here
[06:55] <krg> That only interfaces with the store.
[06:55] <delire> ccfiel: whether KDE is more popular in Europe than elsewhere i don't know, but my students seem to prefer it.
[06:55] <krg> I want something that'll show up as a shared library on my PowerBook.
[06:55] <delire> carthik: ahah, what's your experience. kids prefer Gnome or KDE?
[06:55] <whyameye> Seveas, sorry. So what do I do with these results?
[06:56] <Seveas> whyameye, what are you trying to do?
[06:56] <delire> whyameye: you don't have DMA enabled on your CDROM device
[06:56] <carthik> delire, KDE, by far. But soon some of them take to gnome, after a few weeks of trying both.
[06:56] <delire> whyameye: but it looks like it's supported.
[06:57] <ccfiel> delire: ok..maybe ill go for kde... when i see it the setup its like windows.. :)
[06:57] <delire> carthik: this has also happened here, but those people seem to be more 'geek' than the others.
[06:57] <Seveas> gnome is simpler and more intuitive
[06:57] <ccfiel> carthik: why its kde to gnome?
[06:57] <carthik> delire, they have an "Enlightened" aura - yes :)
[06:57] <hondje> e17! e17!
[06:57] <delire> ccfiel: it takes my students about two hours to get fairly used to KDE, gnome about as many days.
[06:57] <^thehatsrule^> no! flux!
[06:57] <darkaudit> hmph... XFCE for me :)
[06:57] <^thehatsrule^> :P
[06:58] <carthik> ccfiel, dont know, for starters kids like to "play around" a lot more, and so they find gnome "boring"
[06:58] <whyameye> delire, how can you tell 1) I don't have DMA enabled 2) that it is supported? Then how do I enable it?
[06:58] <whyameye> Seveas, CD ripping in Linux is more than 5x slower than in Windows. Trying to figure out why.
[06:58] <darkaudit> ^thehatsrule^: got that one, too :)
[06:58] <^thehatsrule^> hehe
[06:58] <Seveas> whyameye, hdparm -d /dev/hdc says DMA enabled?
[06:58] <carthik> ccfiel, it is the "my desktop is l33ter than yours" thing I guess.
[06:58] <^thehatsrule^> whyameye, check your boot params if theres dma on
[06:58] <delire> whyameye: DMA modes:  mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
[06:58] <darkaudit> whyameye: hdparm /dev/cdrom0
[06:58] <hondje> I hope KDE cleans up the UI for KDE4
[06:58] <ccfiel> delire: ic..
[06:58] <ccfiel> cathink: ic..
[06:58] <carthik> darkaudit, my xfce has a huge memory leak issue
[06:58] <jamminpotato_> hello everybody
[06:59] <delire> whyameye: look into /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:59] <kane> Seveas:  i'm now updating all the repos
[06:59] <whyameye> darkaudit, /dev/cdrom0 says no such device/directory
[06:59] <delire> whyameye: that's where we enable/disable DMA settings and transfer modes.
[06:59] <jamminpotato> how do i play dvd movies in linux?
[06:59] <darkaudit> whyameye: is it a CD or DVD drive?
[06:59] <Seveas> jamminpotato. you might need libdvdcss2 for it
[06:59] <whyameye> darkaudit, it's CDRW/DVD
[07:00] <Seveas> see wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for details
[07:00] <darkaudit> whyameye: try /dev/dvd instead
[07:01] <delire> carthik: have to say administering KDE machines is far easier than in Gnome; though i have more experience with Gnome, i've found tools like Kuser, smb4k and the Control Center altogether are quite incredible to work with.
[07:01] <whyameye> darkaudit, ah-hah! Yes /dev/dvd works and says using_dma = 0 (off)
[07:01] <whyameye> darkaudit, do I check this for the hard disk too?
[07:01] <carthik> delire, yes, lots of ways to control stuff. True. I was a KDE user. Even now, I use KDE applications. Like Kile, and KSnapshot
[07:02] <darkaudit> whyameye: wouldn't hurt, but usually DMA is enabled for hard drives
[07:02] <darkaudit> whyameye: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/dvd
[07:02] <hondje> kile rocks
[07:02] <ccfiel> delire: i have now tried to let my printer print in linux.. i have installed it..using system->printing .. and installed the system detected my printer.. but there is no extact driver for it. i used the nearest driver.. i have test print it but..nothing happens..wats wrong?
[07:02] <hondje> glad I'm not the only one using it, carthik
[07:02] <carthik> hondje, :)
[07:03] <ccfiel> delire: the icons says its ready..
[07:03] <delire> carthik: i have an assistant that helps out with administering machines. i can show her how to setup group policies, configure samba, setup print services and configure X all from a UI.
[07:03] <whyameye> darkaudit, okay did what you said. Now it says DMA is on. With this setting stick on reboot or do I have to set it in hdparm.conf?
[07:03] <zazeem> anyone know how to install steam for cs 1.6 on linux?? i tried tutorial but cant do it
[07:03] <carthik> This printer issue I have now is just one of many "obstacles" I have to cross, to prove to my fellow grad students that Linux is as good as windows, if not better. They stare in awe at my LaTeX documents :)
[07:03] <coffeeparty>
[07:03] <delire> ccfiel: what's the printer? try opening up OpenOffice and test a print from there.
[07:03] <darkaudit> whyameye: you'll need to edit /etc/hdparm.conf to get it to stick
[07:04] <darkaudit> afk brb
[07:04] <kisain> HOLY SHIT I DID IT ^_^
[07:04] <hondje> kisain: ?
[07:04] <hondje> the raid thing?
[07:04] <zazeem> anyone know how to install steam for cs 1.6 on linux?? i tried tutorial but cant do it
[07:04] <zazeem> plsss
[07:04] <kisain> yea
[07:04] <hondje> zazeem: You need cedega
[07:04] <kisain> i did it
[07:04] <zazeem> cedega?
[07:05] <kisain> execept it's not syncing
[07:05] <zazeem> can you help me install it??
[07:05] <hondje> zazeem: It's a commerical program, $5 a month
[07:05] <coffeeparty> is anyone know can i run soul seek in ubuntu?
[07:05] <zazeem> o damn :'(
[07:05] <delire> zazeem: transgaming.com
[07:05] <hondje> zazeem: It's WINE, a windows not-emulator, w/ directX support for games
[07:05] <Sionide> where do you input proxy settings into nautilus?
[07:05] <kisain> well  once i get the syncing thing fixed i don't see why not ^_^
[07:05] <zazeem> look at this though
[07:05] <delire> coffeeparty: 'nicotine' is the app you need
[07:05] <zazeem> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?s=85ca243d1d968c5cc2ef754a2563a159&threadid=7474
[07:05] <zazeem> thats the guide
[07:06] <zazeem> they have it made for linux
[07:06] <hondje> zazeem: Steam DOES work in linux w/ cedega though
[07:06] <zazeem> i just dont understand half the steps
[07:06] <coffeeparty> oh. so where can i find the 'nicotine' ?
[07:06] <kisain> i play cs battlefield natral selection
[07:06] <coffeeparty> thank u
[07:06] <ccfiel> delire: my printer is  canon laser shot lbp 1120.. there is no driver for this one.. i used lbp 1260.. i have tried to print in openoffice but there is no print the icon says printing 1 job..
[07:06] <kisain> so anyone know why it's not syncing?
[07:06] <delire> coffeeparty: google.com/linux
[07:06] <nickrud> Sionide, system-preferences-network proxy
[07:07] <Sionide> damn it
[07:07] <coffeeparty> ok .thank u !
[07:07] <Sionide> thats what i thought, cheers
[07:07] <whyameye> darkaudit, it seems like I can't read from the CD now! Do I need to restart X or something?
[07:07] <delire> coffeeparty: i don't know if it's in debian yet
[07:07] <jamminpotato> is libdvdcss2 in multiverse?
[07:08] <\sh> jamminpotato: no
[07:08] <hondje> jamesh: Nope!
[07:08] <\sh> jamminpotato: and never will
[07:08] <\sh> it's illegal in most countries of this world
[07:08] <coffeeparty> cool i've got it . thank u delire :)
[07:08] <kisain> anyone have any idea what would cause raid 1 to not sync?
[07:08] <delire> coffeeparty: great..
[07:09] <jamminpotato> \sh so where do i get libdvdcss2 ?
[07:09] <delire> coffeeparty: hey, maybe you can help me. how do i make a ss account? ;) a friend wrote to me and suggested i meet him there but on the ss page i can't seem to see how to create an account.
[07:09] <delire> coffeeparty: he reccommended 'nicotine' hence why i know of it.
[07:10] <kisain> hey bob2 i did it i got software raid to work me a n00b to linux yay
[07:10] <firasR> hi all
[07:10] <kisain> just can't get them to sync now lol
[07:10] <cliebow_> anyone using nx?
[07:10] <hondje> there's no native steam since none of the games run natively
[07:10] <ccfiel> delire: my printer is  canon laser shot lbp 1120.. there is no driver for this one.. i used lbp 1260.. i have tried to print in openoffice but there is no print the icon says printing 1 job.. wat do you think?
[07:11] <firasR> anyone know how to check the speed of my network device ? I have a fast ethernet network but file transfers between two Ubuntu boxes are only running at 7-8 MB/s
[07:11] <caonex> hello, I installed ubuntu from a knoppix live cd, following the instructions in the ubuntulinux webiste; however, I selected to format the partition to reiserfs and when I rebooted it told me uknown filesystem type, why?
[07:11] <firasR> over samba
[07:11] <caonex> reiserfs is not built in ?
[07:11] <jamminpotato> is it possible to install rpm's on ubuntu
[07:11] <whyameye> even with DMA on, ripping CDs is pretty slow. Maybe a bit faster than before... Anything else I can check?
[07:11] <delire> ccfiel: hmm sorry, no experience with that printer. lexmark and hp here
[07:12] <ccfiel> delire: ok.. but your printer works well?
[07:12] <ccfiel> delire: in linux?
[07:12] <delire> ccfiel: yes, i've been printing in linux for years
[07:12] <caonex> Do I have to compile a different kernel and not using the one comming with ubuntu?
[07:12] <Fator_Dee> jamminpotato: it is with "alien"
[07:12] <delire> ccfiel: i only use linux at work and at home. however i always choose my printer carefully ;)
[07:12] <nickrud> ccfiel, check for your printer on linuxprinting.org, if there's a driver available, it'll tell you.
[07:12] <jamminpotato> Fator_Dee, how do i get "alien"
[07:13] <Fator_Dee> jamminpotato: sudo apt-get alien
[07:13] <Fator_Dee> *apt-get install
[07:13] <delire> ;)
[07:13] <kisain> ^_^
[07:13] <Fator_Dee> my fingers are faster than my brain
[07:13] <mchasard> please is there a way to see an ubuntu live cd with config save /restore on a usb key ?
[07:14] <ccfiel> delire, nickrud: ok..thanks.. a lot.. i will buy first a fresh HD for my ubuntu..i will try to shift windows to linux.. hope ill will be successfull.. :)
[07:14] <g14> Is pine packaged for ubuntu?
[07:14] <delire> "This amazing new update to APT knows exactly what you want to do, whether purging, installing or reading cache output! Just type 'apt' and it will take care of the rest."
[07:14] <g14> I know it comes with pico, but apt-get says that pico was obsoleted by nano
[07:15] <krg> Heh.
[07:15] <krg> Actually, pico comes with pine.
[07:15] <ccfiel> bye... ill be back.. :) thanks a lot for all of you guys..
[07:15] <delire> ccfiel: it'll be great. hang out here for help anytime!
[07:15] <Seveas> pine/pico have evil licenses
[07:15] <krg> And pico was obsoleted by nano because most people who had pine installed only had it installed for pico.  :P
[07:15] <Seveas> ubuntu cannot package them
[07:15] <g14> Seveas: Alright, so I guess I'm stuck with mutt
[07:15] <mchasard> so for the special livecd with config save ...is this in the todo list ?
[07:16] <Seveas> g14, nono, you're blessed with mutt :)
[07:16] <mchasard> i'm affraid no
[07:16] <delire> g14: mutt is fabulous! why would you want anything else ;)
[07:16] <jamminpotato> arrrgh, i cant seem to find libdvdcss anywhere
[07:16] <Chambers`> hi guys, quick question.  Whats the website for telling you how to install mplayer with dvd playback?
[07:16] <Seveas> jamminpotato, it's not in the officil ubuntu repositories
[07:16] <mchasard> ok thanks ...
[07:16] <mjr> mutt's imap and multiple folder handling is less than blessworty; luckily, there's evolution
[07:16] <jamminpotato> Seveas, i figured that out, but how do i get it
[07:16] <krg> Heh.
[07:16] <linuxamoeba21> hey is there a way to make nautilus default to "browse" rather than "open" i.e. open with the side pane and all?
[07:16] <g14> delire: mutt is annoying :) I prefer pine
[07:16] <krg> Thunderbird!
[07:16] <delire> mjr: what's wrong with it's folder handling?
[07:16] <mchasard> sylpheed
[07:17] <Seveas> linuxamoeba21, yes
[07:17] <delire> g14: you just haven't written a good ~/.muttrc yet ;)
[07:17] <Seveas> edit->preferences-> behaviour tab
[07:17] <rama> can I configure a scanner graphically?
[07:17] <mchasard> ok bye
[07:17] <Seveas> jamminpotato, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/libdvdcss2_1.2.8-sarge0.0_i386.deb
[07:17] <Seveas> download that
[07:18] <Seveas> and run dpkg -i libdvdcss......deb
[07:18] <linuxamoeba21> gah. n00b moment. thanks
[07:18] <mjr> delire, changing them
[07:18] <delire> rama: i believe so yes.
[07:18] <delire> fishie no need to msg me. what's up? are you using CUPS?
[07:19] <caonex> I am trying to boot the ubuntu warty version, using root as reiserfs; however, I got an error saying that filesystem type not supppported, is it not or may just be my line in fstab?
[07:19] <delire> bob2 kisain http://www.hwb.no/artikkel/15307
[07:19] <caonex> Do I have to compile a different kernel?//
[07:20] <dr_willis> hmmm
[07:20] <jamminpotato> wow, mozilla-sunbird isnt in any repositories
[07:20] <rama> delire: System > Administraion has no such facility for scanner. where to look?
[07:20] <Seveas> jamminpotato, of course not
[07:21] <jamminpotato> seveas, becuase it is beta?
[07:21] <Seveas> was not in a stable state when hoary froze
[07:21] <delire> rama 'apt-get install quiteinsane'
[07:21] <geneo93> this is craziness
[07:21] <Rash> Hey guys, could you give me some help. I'm trying to download Kubuntu's DVD image on Bittorrent but the tracker is refusing my connection.
[07:21] <Chambers`> anyway to use my iPod in Ubuntu?
[07:21] <delire> rama: seriously ;) 'apt-cache show quiteinsane'
[07:21] <delire> Chambers`: gtkpod
[07:21] <Chambers`> Rash, open the bittorrent port
[07:21] <Chambers`> thanks delire
[07:22] <Rash> ConnectionException::Connection Refused:connect
[07:22] <LinuxJones> Chambers`, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IPodHowto
[07:22] <fishie> Well I have the Officejet 7400 and the hpijs with ubuntu doesn't support it. so i was trying to compile a newer version.
[07:22] <dell500> do you really need Mplayer for dvd ripping?>?
[07:22] <geneo93> sunbird wtf is that
[07:22] <Rash> Chambers`, it is opened. I just use an alternate Bittorrent port, is that the problem?
[07:22] <delire> fishie: odd, i thought it did. hoary?
[07:22] <fishie> yea
[07:23] <delire> fishie: you installed hpijs?
[07:23] <fishie> 2.0.1
[07:23] <Archimedes> KDE/Gnome question:  I installed KDE on ubuntu, but it seems like all third party apps still conform to Gnome's ugly windows...
[07:23] <Archimedes> Should I install the kubuntu packages?
[07:23] <Dave2|irssi> "Gnome's ugly windows"?
[07:23] <delire> fishie: when you say "it doesn't support it", is that official?
[07:24] <Archimedes> well theyre ugly in KDE at least
[07:24] <delire> Archimedes: kubuntu-desktop AFAIK
[07:24] <kisain> anyone know where i can find the error log that would tell me what problems raid is having?
[07:24] <fishie> i don't see it under system >admin >printers
[07:24] <delire> kisain: /var/log/syslog ?
[07:24] <Seveas> Archimedes, if they are gnome apps, of course they look like gnome
[07:24] <caonex> anybody here running ubuntu with reiserfs
[07:24] <lonewolff> hey there
[07:24] <delire> fishie: try http://localhost:631 and add it there
[07:24] <Archimedes> so all apps I install say through synaptic will look like gnome?
[07:25] <lonewolff> i wonder if anyone can help me, one of my ubuntu machines seems to take about 3 times as long as my other machines to do dns lookups
[07:25] <Seveas> Archimedes, if they are gnome apps: yes
[07:25] <retiarius> how do i configure video drivers?
[07:25] <Seveas> lonewolff, only in firefox i assume?
[07:25] <LinuxJones> lonewolff, that's probably ipv6 being enabled
[07:25] <delire> Archimedes: they shouldn't all look like that no, just the GTK apps. did you install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:25] <jamminpotato> seveas, i downloaded the .deb for dvdlibcss2, but when i try to dpkg it tells me no such archive exists
[07:25] <Archimedes> No.. should I?
[07:25] <Seveas> jamminpotato, you have to give it the actual filename
[07:25] <lonewolff> Seveas: no, its in any app
[07:25] <hondje> jamminpotato: Why not use apt-get for libdvdcss?
[07:25] <delire> jamminpotato: where did you download it to? dpkg -i /path/to/file
[07:25] <jamminpotato> Seveas, i did give it the full naem
[07:26] <lonewolff> LinuxJones: aha, i didnt think about that, i shall go disable that
[07:26] <Seveas> hondje, because it is only in marillat
[07:26] <jamminpotato> delire, i did that
[07:26] <jamminpotato> and it denies that it exists
[07:26] <hondje> Seveas: You sure? I have them installed....
[07:26] <Seveas> this saves him from adding marilat
[07:26] <Seveas> jamminpotato, use tab completion :)
[07:26] <delire> jamminpotato: well you mustn't have entered the path or name correctly. dpkg doesn't lie
[07:26] <retiarius> i just dropped in a new video card and i want to configure new drivers
[07:26] <fishie> all i see is designjet, officejet, laserjet
[07:26] <Seveas> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <K_Dallas> What does this mean and how to resolve it /dev/dsp not installed? thanks
[07:27] <ccfiel> hello.. im back.. :) just want to ask can i installed ubuntu in 3gig HD?
[07:27] <Seveas> (that one was for retiarius)
[07:27] <delire> Archimedes: 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' is the way to go if you want KDE supported properly.
[07:27] <Seveas> K_Dallas, teach your application to use esd or kill the sound daemon
[07:27] <Rash> Anyone else knows why kubuntu's tracker is refusing my connection?
[07:27] <jamminpotato> yay for tab completion
[07:27] <ccfiel> delire: can install ubuntu with gnome and kde in 3g?
[07:27] <ccfiel> delire: can install ubuntu with gnome and kde in 3g HD?
[07:27] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: yep, but it might be quite tight if you want to install a lot of apps
[07:27] <Seveas> ccfiel, stop repeating
[07:27] <delire> ccfiel: you */can*/ yes
[07:27] <Seveas> and no
[07:27] <LinuxJones> lonewolff, edit   /etc/modutils/aliases and uncomment/edit the ipv6 line to look like this >> alias net-pf-10 off		# IPv6
[07:28] <Fator_Dee> ccfiel: don't know though if 3gigs will be enough for both kde and gnome
[07:28] <Seveas> not if you want  kde and gnome and a useable system
[07:28] <delire> Seveas: i thought the minimum was 2.5gb?
[07:28] <K_Dallas> Seveas, could you give me some hint as how to do it? i tried mplayer and rhythmbox and for rythmbox i could not find any thing in tis preferences and for mplayer i have to ask
[07:28] <delire> Archimedes: ;)
[07:28] <Fator_Dee> delire: but with only gnome?
[07:28] <Seveas> delire, KDE AND gnome...
[07:28] <delire> Seveas: ahah, you're right. he can't
[07:28] <kisain> it says raid arry is not clean srating background reconstruction(whats this mean?
[07:29] <Nub> hi, i'm trying to set up my MS MN-130 NIC with a modified tulip driver and it still doesn't recognize the card
[07:29] <Seveas> K_Dallas, in /etc/mplayer.conf oid
[07:29] <winmute> can somebody tell me why firefox reacts so slow under linux
[07:29] <delire> ccfiel: no you can't with both KDE and Gnome. Seveas is right.
[07:29] <K_Dallas> Seveas, thanks i am going to have a look at there
[07:29] <Seveas> K_Dallas, in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:29] <ccfiel> Seveas: ok thanks guys.. i need to buy one new HD for my linux ...
[07:29] <Seveas> K_Dallas, look for a line that starts with ao=
[07:29] <ccfiel> bye.. :)
[07:29] <Seveas> it should be ao=esd
[07:29] <K_Dallas> appreciate it, thank you
[07:30] <Seveas> no clue on rhythmbox, i don't use it
[07:30] <delire> Archimedes: no need to msg me. just use kpackage, kynaptic or synaptic. my students dig kpackage.
[07:30] <delire> Archimedes: what you use as an apt frontend won't change the look and feel of your applications.
[07:30] <Chambers`> brb
[07:31] <topic> heya
[07:32] <delire> very topical nick.
[07:32] <dbasetrinity> hello can anyone tell me if i have an amd64 do i have to install an amd64 version or can i install a 32 bit version
[07:32] <topic> is X supposed to be dead with todays breezy ?
[07:32] <Seveas> you can install both dbasetrinity
[07:32] <Seveas> topic, yes
[07:32] <Rash> My friend just tested, couldn't connect to Kubuntu's tracker either. Is anyone here connected?
[07:32] <dbasetrinity> thank you ver much
[07:32] <Nub> Hi, i need help getting my MS MN-130 NIC to work with a hacked tulip driver, if anyone can help please PM or highlight
[07:32] <Seveas> but you can easily fix it topic
[07:32] <topic> yay.
[07:32] <topic> i am all for easy fixes :)
[07:33] <Seveas> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <dark> my router go bye bye
[07:33] <Seveas> you need to correct the fontpaths
[07:33] <Seveas> correct paths can be founf with dpkg -L xfonts-base
[07:33] <Rash> Ah sorry, wrong channel.
[07:33] <Dave2|irssi> it is dead.
[07:33] <forester> What kernel is 5.04 using?
[07:33] <Seveas> 2.6.10-5
[07:34] <topic> thank you
[07:34] <AndyR> Seveas, do you work for cannonical?
[07:34] <winmute> can someone please tell me why firefox reacts so slow under Linux(Ubuntu Hoary) is that normal
[07:34] <winmute> ???
[07:34] <Seveas> AndyR, no
[07:34] <Seveas> winmute, are dns lookups slow?
[07:34] <forester> Any known problems using ubuntu from win2k3 under vmware workstation?
[07:34] <Seveas> forester, yes, a dns lookup slowness problem
[07:34] <AndyR> ive found firefox fast on hoary
[07:34] <Seveas> and a fix to it :)
[07:35] <delire> forester: the solution is to uninstall win2k3 ;)
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <forester> delire: hahahahahahahaha
[07:35] <Nub> can anyone please help me?!?!?
[07:35] <Seveas> foreach, cut it out
[07:35] <delire> Nub: sure, what's up?
[07:35] <forester> the same
[07:35] <goldfish> emmm
[07:35] <Nub> thank you
[07:35] <Nub> i'm trying to use a microsoft MN-130 nic
[07:36] <winmute> the hole Browser reacts slow
[07:36] <Nub> i modified the tulip driver and did make modules and make modules_install
[07:36] <Nub> but it still doesn't recognize it
[07:36] <delire> Nub: sadly i have no experience with that NIC. have you looked in the Ubuntu forums to see if anyone else has set it up successfully?
[07:36] <winmute> dns lookups were slow but i set the dns server the correctly and it works
[07:36] <delire> Nub: did you modprobe the driver?
[07:36] <delire> Nub: what is the module name?
[07:36] <Archimedes> Is there any way to install kubuntu over a ubuntu install without formatting?
[07:37] <delire> Archimedes: yess!!
[07:37] <Nub> i did what the forums said
[07:37] <Tritis> Nub: Laforge has the same card (i think) and the same problem.  If you do find a solution can you relay it to him?
[07:37] <forester> delire: There are 4 billion apps Linux has no equivalent for that I can not do without.
[07:37] <delire> Nub: what is the module name?
[07:37] <Seveas> Archimedes, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:37] <Nub> tulip
[07:37] <Archimedes> oh ok, i did that
[07:37] <foreach> Seveas, ?
[07:37] <forester> I learned this many years ago, after using the GIMP for a very long time then purchasing Win2k and Photoshop.
[07:37] <Seveas> forester, you just dit not find it yet :)
[07:37] <forester> GIMP still is not close in many respect.
[07:37] <delire> forester: i haven't used windows in years. i can't help you there sorry.
[07:37] <des> Question: My friend set up  ubuntu 5.04 on his pc he cant connect to internet with his motorola cabel modem sd4200 because he cant find authorization window for network acess . please help me its urgent !
[07:37] <Nub> delire: tulip
[07:37] <forester> Seveas: Wrong.
[07:37] <Archimedes> I just feel like gnome lingers on my machine like a ghost
[07:37] <rickard> is it possible to customize the are that displays icons when gnome are loading?
[07:37] <Seveas> foreach, sorry, tab completion mess-up
[07:37] <forester> I used Linux for a long time as a desktop and never touched Windows.
[07:37] <foreach> Seveas, I figured, np :)
[07:37] <delire> Nub: ahah of course. try 'modprobe tulip'
[07:37] <Timbo> forester: which version of the gimp?
[07:37] <forester> Now I use Windows as a desktop.
[07:38] <forester> Every version of the GIMP, for many years.
[07:38] <hondje> I don't like windows on the desktop
[07:38] <Nub> delire: command line?
[07:38] <forester> Many other instances.
[07:38] <delire> Nub: yes
[07:38] <forester> The GIMP was the first made so clear.
[07:38] <hondje> the menus suck, like KDE, and the filesystem isn't familiar to me :(
[07:38] <forester> There are many problems with Linux as a desktop machine for professionals.
[07:38] <Archimedes> KDE is the awesome
[07:38] <Nub> delire: ok thanks
[07:38] <Seveas> lol forester
[07:38] <delire> hondje: yes i also find Windows systems very confusing
[07:38] <forester> lol
[07:38] <forester> tru
[07:38] <des> can someone help me please ??
[07:38] <housetier> forester its ok, really it is
[07:38] <hondje> delire: Kinda like newbies to linux feel :)
[07:39] <Archimedes> wow, xhat corrects "teh" to "the" -- how the hell is this useful for IRC chatters?
[07:39] <Seveas> there are much problems with windows for that purpose too
[07:39] <forester> housetier: Nice try
[07:39] <Seveas> A LOT of problems
[07:39] <topic> Seveas: well, didnt help, reallz
[07:39] <forester> Seveas: Like what?
[07:39] <jamminpotato> the
[07:39] <Seveas> like security
[07:39] <jamminpotato> wow it does
[07:39] <Nub> delire: brb after i reboot and try it, then reboot back into win
[07:39] <Seveas> like viruses
[07:39] <delire> forester: i cannot use windows in my line of work as it doesn't have the applications i need.
[07:39] <forester> Linux does not even have the CAPABILITY to do what I can do with Windows.
[07:39] <hondje> I can't stand how you have to go to sites to download apps for windows
[07:39] <Seveas> like a lot of management issues
[07:39] <Bramme> what's a good equivalent for PowerDVD under linux?
[07:39] <hondje> I want apt-get for windows....
[07:39] <forester> delire: Same here.
[07:39] <Seveas> lol forester troll :)
[07:39] <topic> it seems to be hung on a borked xorg.conf file.
[07:39] <forester> delire: And the same for many others.
[07:39] <forester> Seveas: No, hardly.
[07:39] <hondje> and you can't casually browse pornsites in windows, you ahve to clean stuffu p afterwards
[07:39] <forester> YOU are the ones who told me to lose Windows.
[07:39] <delire> forester: why are you here?
[07:40] <Timbo> forester: tbh, you're just wearing out your keyboard
[07:40] <forester> I have a ratioanl reason and a right to use Windows if I want to.
[07:40] <forester> Why am I here?
[07:40] <housetier> forester ok and when I ask you to please stop it? this is not the place for that kind of "argument"
[07:40] <forester> Because I fucking use Linux as well.
[07:40] <forester> And I used Linux before touching Windows.
[07:40] <delire> forester: perhaps there is a vnc channel?
[07:40] <forester> YOU are the ones who cannot process possibilities.
[07:40] <des> can someone answer urgent question here ?(network configuration related)
[07:40] <hondje> forester: really? How old are you?
[07:40] <forester> I am 28.
[07:40] <forester> How old are you?
[07:40] <Tritis> forester: What was your question?
[07:40] <housetier> lol
[07:40] <hondje> 25, surprised you never used windows before linux
[07:40] <forester> hondje: Believe it.
[07:41] <hondje> How'd you swing that, macs?
[07:41] <Seveas> people, may i remind all of you to the code of conduct...
[07:41] <forester> I used a Mac 512ke until 1995
[07:41] <delire> forester: this is a channel for a Linux distribution called Ubuntu. perhaps there is a channel that deals with Win32 and Linux interoperability || vnc?
[07:41] <hondje> ah...after our C64 my parents went PC
[07:41] <anto9us> des: have a question? just ask :)
[07:41] <Timbo> forester: then you used linux since 95?
[07:41] <forester> A college pal quickly set me up with slackware at college, then I went to redhat for a day and debian for 5 years.
[07:41] <forester> Then Win2k for about 3 or 4 years.
[07:41] <hondje> forester: I didn't think many mac guys turned into linux guys though :)
[07:41] <forester> Now Win2k3 for a year or so.
[07:41] <retiarius> stumbling with dvd and video cards
[07:42] <housetier> so forester what can I help you with in ubuntu?
[07:42] <forester> All the while still using Debian for other things, just gradually moving it away from my desktop.
[07:42] <retiarius> the onboard k8m800 video lacked xv
[07:42] <el_menor> seveas
[07:42] <delire> des: has your friend looked at wvdial or kppp?
[07:42] <forester> Timbo: Yeah.
[07:42] <retiarius> the fx9200 will not post in this machine
[07:42] <Seveas> el_menor..?
[07:42] <forester> hondje: Ok.
[07:42] <retiarius> the radeon 9200 works sort of
[07:42] <veritas> What type of ssh should I have?
[07:42] <el_menor> i already instal  amsn
[07:42] <veritas> On default it's set to bin/bash
[07:42] <veritas> But when I try to ssh and enter my password it keeps registering it as incorrect.
[07:42] <el_menor> i have to restar the pc now
[07:43] <el_menor> ??
[07:43] <coreymon77> hi
[07:43] <retiarius> dvds don't play
[07:43] <Seveas> el_menor, no
[07:43] <hondje> forester: I'm not insulting you (at least intentionally)...just not a common migration path that I've seen
[07:43] <el_menor> couz it doesn't work
[07:43] <coreymon77> i have a problem and was told in the kubuntu channel to ask it here
[07:43] <forester> hondje: I don't care.
[07:43] <forester> hondje: Do you want reason?
[07:43] <el_menor> and it don't want to get closre
[07:43] <hondje> No, need no reason for what you do with your freetime
[07:43] <nickrud> coreymon77, ask away
[07:43] <forester> hondje: I got a computer around 93, it was over ten years old, a Mac 512ke.
[07:43] <Seveas> el_menor, just open a terminal and type amsn
[07:43] <coreymon77> okay
[07:43] <coreymon77> its a boot problem
[07:43] <forester> Now I am a self employed software developer of 5 years with a new house and car.
[07:44] <housetier> so forester what can I help you with in ubuntu?
[07:44] <coreymon77> i have a dual boot (k/ubuntu and windows) system
[07:44] <forester> housetier: I am busy. You can help me later or you could have helped me before.
[07:44] <coreymon77> which are on two seperate drives
[07:44] <Seveas> forester, good for you but please do not creat noise, that distracts people from the topic. This is a help channel...
[07:44] <delire> des: ahah. does the person have a router that requires authentication?
[07:44] <forester> Seveas: I have a right to reply to attacks.
[07:44] <forester> Seveas: Do not create noise by attacking me.
[07:44] <Timbo> foreach: nobody attacked you
[07:44] <coreymon77> i wanted to reboot into windows for something
[07:44] <Timbo> forester:
[07:44] <forester> With assumptions and insecurity.
[07:45] <Seveas> forester, noone has attacked you
[07:45] <Bramme> what's a good equivalent for PowerDVD under linux?
[07:45] <veritas> Ahhh!
[07:45] <LarstiQ> Bramme: totem, xine, mplayer?
[07:45] <foreach> Bramme - Couldn't you play the dvd's with mplayer?
[07:45] <foreach> erm
[07:45] <foreach> heh.
[07:45] <coreymon77> butand when i reboot i get the "initializing grub" message which generally only stays on the screen for a sec or 2
[07:46] <coreymon77> instead it just stays there and eventually give me "error 17"
[07:46] <coreymon77> and i cant boot into anything (windows or linux)
[07:46] <coreymon77> so i try another boot loader
[07:46] <retiarius> using Multimedia Systems Selector the only sink that will "test" is custom with sdlvideosink
[07:46] <delire> des: sorry i've never heard of an ISP requiring authentication for a cable/dsl connection at the network interface end, to use the LAN. perhaps ask your question without messaging me and someone else can help.
[07:47] <forester> Where is the "dns lookup slowness problem" fix?
[07:47] <coreymon77> which allows me to boot into windows (what im in now) and sees my linux drive
[07:47] <Tritis> coreymon77: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=120802
[07:47] <Seveas> coreymon77, can you paste the following on ubuntu.pastebin.com: the file /boot/grub/menu.lst and the output of fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:47] <Seveas> forester: in FF hit ctrl+t to open a new tab. Then type about:config, in the filter section type in ipv in the network.dns.disableIPV6 set the value to true and restart FF.
[07:47] <hondje> forester: It's in the handbook, for additional things to change
[07:47] <coreymon77> but when i try to boot into linux it says "sector boot not found or corrupt/invalid"
[07:47] <delire> des: ok cheers
[07:47] <phanter> hey people, why is it that I have nearly any updates for my hoary installation????
[07:47] <Seveas> hmm that makes little sense, there's an error in my faq script :)
[07:48] <hondje> I didn't notice much change with it, though :(
[07:48] <coreymon77> seveas: two things
[07:48] <Curlydave> hi
[07:48] <retiarius> for default source only "custom" will test that has the pipeline v4lmjpegsrc and it generates the error failed to construct test pipeline
[07:48] <coreymon77> Seveas:1 i have absolutely no clue what you are talking about
[07:48] <mpq> I need help
[07:49] <mpq> my mouse isn't working right
[07:49] <coreymon77> Seveas: and 2 my linux drive is hdb1
[07:49] <Seveas> coreymon77, that's ok, i'll explain on a more newbie level
[07:49] <Seveas> and windows is on hda i guess?
[07:49] <coreymon77> yup
[07:49] <hac> How I can cut & paste text without gui?
[07:49] <Seveas> that's why i needed the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[07:49] <retiarius> xine says i have no /dev/dvd
[07:50] <Seveas> coreymon77, can you still boot into linux?
[07:50] <nickrud> hac, apt-get install gpm
[07:50] <coreymon77> again
[07:50] <delire> retiarius: try /dev/cdrom
[07:50] <coreymon77> no i cant
[07:50] <Seveas> ouch
[07:50] <hondje> retiarius: sudo mkdir /dev/dvd, ln -s /dev/hd? /dev/dvd perhaps
[07:50] <delire> coreymon77: grab a liveCD and use it to rescue your partitions
[07:50] <Seveas> do you have a linux live cd available coreymon77 ?
[07:50] <coreymon77> ya
[07:51] <Seveas> boot from that disk then
[07:51] <el_menor> seveas how can i listen music like mp3 here
[07:51] <coreymon77> and then what
[07:51] <Seveas> el_menor, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:51] <mpq> I need help
[07:51] <el_menor> and what program ca i use to download it?
[07:51] <coreymon77> i cant acces the internet from that
[07:51] <mpq> my mouse doesn't work right and linux
[07:51] <mpq> *in
[07:51] <des> amule doesnt wants to starts without writing anything in console besides aborted , can anyone help me ?
[07:51] <coreymon77> so i cant get instructions
[07:51] <hondje> mpq: what kind of mouse?
[07:51] <mpq> touchpad
[07:51] <delire> mpq: did you fillow nickrud's suggestion?
[07:51] <mpq> it's a laptop
[07:51] <retiarius> root@meyer:/dev # ls -la /dev/dvd
[07:51] <retiarius> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 3 2005-05-22 13:18 /dev/dvd -> hda
[07:51] <hondje> oh, I've never messed with those, sorry I can't help :)
[07:52] <hondje> did it ever work, or never?
[07:52] <coreymon77> well my brother can set the internet up though
[07:52] <Seveas> coreymon77, but you are on another machine now, aren't you?
[07:52] <el_menor> seveas i can not here music  with linux?
[07:52] <mpq> who?
[07:52] <nickrud> delire, that wasn't for mpq
[07:52] <Curlydave> hey, does anyone know how to gain access to restricted modules?
[07:52] <coreymon77> no
[07:52] <mpq> oh
[07:52] <Seveas> coreymon77, heh??
[07:52] <coreymon77> as i said at the begining
[07:52] <hondje> Curlydave: apt-cache search module | grep rest
[07:52] <coreymon77> my machine is dual boot
[07:52] <delire> nickrud: ahah ;)
[07:52] <fishie> delire:what would i put for the host name for the printer. the ip for it is <IP_ADDRESS>, just using the ip doesn't work
[07:52] <Seveas> coreymon77, you just said linux and windows both didn't boot..
[07:52] <jamminpotato> is it possible to change from the 1.x.x version of OOo that comes with ubuntu  to tone of the beta 2's? if so how?
[07:52] <coreymon77> i used a different boot loader (not grub) to get onto windows
[07:53] <mpq> my mouse moves too fast
[07:53] <delire> fishie: anything you like!
[07:53] <hondje> Curlydave: Do that to find the one that matches your kernle, then sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-module-yourstuff
[07:53] <Seveas> coreymon77, ah ok!
[07:53] <mpq> makes it really hard to do anything
[07:53] <Curlydave> jondje, ty very much!
[07:53] <Curlydave> i think it might have worked
[07:53] <des> delire: you know how can i fix amule cras when im trying to run it ? where should i look for error log or something ?
[07:53] <Curlydave> it did something without error, which is always a good sign
[07:53] <Curlydave> k
[07:53] <naderman> mpq: System -> preferences -> mouse -> movement
[07:53] <Seveas> coreymon77, i think that your boot sector is messed up
[07:53] <coreymon77> when i tried to boot into linux from that it gave me this error message
[07:53] <delire> mpq: there are tools for tweaking the way the mouse performs.
[07:53] <mpq> that's not the problem
[07:53] <coreymon77> "sector boot not found or corrupt/invalid"
[07:53] <hondje> Curlydave: What restricted module are you trying to install?
[07:53] <mpq> the sensitivity is near the lowest setting
[07:53] <Seveas> coreymon77, so you need to boot from a live cd and open a root terminal there
[07:53] <Tritis> jamminpotato: You can upgrade to breezy.  I did but the topic seems to say that is a bad idea.  The only problem I've had is ctrl+w doesn't close tabs in gaim
[07:53] <mpq> sometimes it's fine
[07:54] <Curlydave> newest ATI drivers, 64-bit
[07:54] <delire> des: remove ~/.xMule but be sure it doesn't hold any files you downloaded first.
[07:54] <Seveas> coreymon77, and the type grub-install (hd0)
[07:54] <nickrud> mpq, do you have gpm installed :)
[07:54] <mpq> but the on/off button for the mouse doesn't do anything
[07:54] <mpq> what is gpm?
[07:54] <Seveas> coreymon77, that might fix it
[07:54] <hondje> Curlydave: Oh, cool luck...I hear that's still a pain in the ass to do
[07:54] <anto9us> jamminpotato: it's in the universe repository which you can access using hoary
[07:54] <delire> des: hmm, that may be ~/.eMule i forget.
[07:54] <Curlydave> haha  i know ;)
[07:54] <Curlydave> hondje: i hope it works...
[07:54] <nickrud> mpq, it's for using the mouse on the console, and sometimes it doesn't play nice with X
[07:54] <hondje> Over the years, I've only bought nvidia cards because the ati install stories scared me :)
[07:54] <yahalom> i can run pppoeconf in terminal without x?
[07:54] <des> delire: or ~/.amule ?
[07:55] <mpq> oh
[07:55] <mpq> how do I fix it?
[07:55] <Fator_Dee> yahalom: yes
[07:55] <delire> des: ironically it's not ~/.amule from memory. when you install amule it sets up an ~/.eMule directory AFAIK
[07:55] <coreymon77> alright, ill try it thanks
[07:55] <hondje> what's eMule?  Thanks goldfish
[07:56] <Necrosan> I'm following the ubuntu unofficial guide for hoary and I'm trying to do the mplayer install, first few steps are good, but apt-get'ing mplayer is proving to be a pain. any suggestions?
[07:56] <nickrud> mpq, honestly, I'm not sure, that was a stab in the dark
[07:56] <des> delire: so i need to write lm /.emule in home  dir ?
[07:56] <mpq> my USB mouse worked perfectly
[07:56] <mpq> but it broke last night
[07:56] <hondje> Necrosan: what do you mean 'pain'?
[07:56] <delire> hondje: a peer to peer client. the linux equivalents are aMule and xMule.
[07:56] <hondje> delire: I grok...like kazaa et al
[07:56] <Barnabas> for some reason, my sound died again after intalling skype
[07:56] <nickrud> mldonkey
[07:56] <kisain> un i got the raid to work ^_^ so um how do i write a wiki now?
[07:57] <naderman> I saw there is a vcl mozilla plugin, do you think one could make this plugin work with firefox?
[07:57] <Seveas> Barnabas, either teach skype to use esd or live with this :)
[07:57] <naderman> vlc even
[07:57] <Necrosan> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:57] <Necrosan>   mplayer-386: Depends: libavcodeccvs (>= 2:20050417-0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:57] <Curlydave> hmmmmm, so does anyone know whaat K8 is compared to x64_generic?
[07:57] <Necrosan> plus a few more.
[07:57] <Seveas> Necrosan, use mplayer-custom
[07:57] <Barnabas> no, my entire system sound died
[07:57] <Seveas> from the *ubuntu* repositories
[07:57] <delire> des: do you have an ~/.eMule ?
[07:57] <delire> des: 'ls ~/.eMule' ?
[07:57] <Necrosan> Seveas, I want to have firefox interopability, is this still possible?
[07:57] <Seveas> yes
[07:58] <jrhodes> Curlydave, technically, K8 is the AMD architecture while x64-generic would be for both AMD64 and EM64T.
[07:58] <des> delire: no such dir in home dir
[07:58] <hondje> Necrosan: are you using it from multiverse? Why not mplayer-586?
[07:58] <Curlydave> ohhh ,so which should i use?
[07:58] <delire> des: try 'ls ~/.xMule'
[07:58] <Curlydave> k8 then?
[07:58] <Necrosan> Package mplayer-custom is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:58] <jrhodes> well what do you have?
[07:58] <Necrosan> hondje, i get the same problem with -586.
[07:58] <Curlydave> AMD
[07:58] <delire> des: sorry 'ls -l ~/.xMule'
[07:58] <jrhodes> K8 then.
[07:58] <hondje> Necrosan: okay...multiverse or marillat?
[07:58] <fishie> i give up
[07:58] <Curlydave> ty mucho love!
[07:58] <jrhodes> though odds are you wouldn't see a difference
[07:58] <Seveas> Necrosan, have you enabled multiverse?
[07:58] <Necrosan> I dunno, I added all the repository's as listed in the guide except backports.
[07:58] <hondje> Necrosan: I wonder because I just installed mplayer a couple hours ago
[07:59] <Necrosan> How do I enable multiverse?
[07:59] <Curlydave> oh another quesiotn: "Non-free" or restricted?
[07:59] <Barnabas> Seveas, my sound is dead :(
[07:59] <jrhodes> license terms.
[07:59] <hondje> Necrosan: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add multiverse to the first two
[07:59] <Seveas> Necrosan, for an example look on http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[07:59] <jrhodes> non-free/restricted packages will still install on your system, they just make RMS sad.
[07:59] <hondje> Necrosan: I have deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse
[07:59] <Seveas> same for multiverse
[08:00] <Curlydave> oh, so use "Restricted Linux modles" instead of non-free?
[08:00] <hondje> jrhodes: please, think of the hippies :(
[08:00] <Curlydave> and do you know what smp is?
[08:00] <jrhodes> er? just use standard modules and leave the other stuff for later experimentation
[08:00] <delire> single multi-processor
[08:00] <des> delire: i dont have that dir  in home/des/ either
[08:00] <Necrosan> k, updating..
[08:00] <Curlydave> k ty!
[08:00] <jrhodes> SMP is symmetric multiprocessing. it's for more than 1 CPU
[08:00] <Seveas> symmetric multi processor
[08:00] <Seveas> not single :)
[08:01] <Curlydave> ty veyr much
[08:01] <delire> des: then i would try deleting the amule config directory 'rm -fr ~/.amule'
[08:01] <Curlydave> ohhhhhhh
[08:01] <Curlydave> sounds like fun!
[08:01] <Curlydave> i should get one of those, but until then, i'll stick with the standard one :p
[08:01] <Curlydave> ty veyr much for the help
[08:01] <jrhodes> it is, but also generally more expensive
[08:01] <jrhodes> no problem
[08:01] <Necrosan> now should I just continue on with the  instructions?
[08:02] <Necrosan> sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[08:02] <Necrosan> ?
[08:02] <Curlydave> well, i'm gettign the module now, hopefully soon i can get my vid drivers installed properly
[08:02] <delire> sure
[08:02] <Chambers`> hey guys, is there any way I can connect to my Dell Pocket PC in Ubuntu?
[08:02] <Seveas> Necrosan, first do sudo apt-get update
[08:02] <Chambers`> it's a Dell Axim
[08:02] <hondje> Chambers`: Probably, I use a toshiba pocketPC with evolution
[08:02] <Necrosan> ya
[08:02] <Necrosan> I'm doing that now.
[08:03] <Chambers`> do i need to install anything for it to be recognized?
[08:03] <Necrosan> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[08:03] <Necrosan> getting that though. :/
[08:03] <goldfish> (goldfish)# apt-cache search bibletime                                   carbon
[08:03] <goldfish> bibletime - A bible study tool for KDE
[08:03] <goldfish> (goldfish)# apt-cache search bibletime                                   carbon
[08:03] <goldfish> bibletime - A bible study tool for KDE
[08:03] <Seveas> goldfish, don't do that
[08:03] <Seveas> Necrosan, try it again
[08:03] <delire> goldfish: thanks goldfish, i'll keep that in mind.
[08:03] <goldfish> ah
[08:03] <goldfish> woops
[08:03] <goldfish> sorry :/
[08:04] <hondje> That was only four lines...how man constitutue a flood here?
[08:04] <Seveas> if it doesn't work, use archvie.u.c instead of us.archve.u.c
[08:04] <anto9us> Chambers`: see http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/04/13/1758241.shtml?tid=59&tid=130
[08:04] <goldfish> My mouse fell and right clicked , sorry.
[08:04] <delire> goldfish: hehe it's ok. four lines is hardly evil
[08:04] <goldfish> :)
[08:04] <retiarius> Seveas, I dumped the uruntuguide addon cd on this machine, is there a better chance of getting dvds to work if I reload?
[08:04] <goldfish> It'a annoying though.
[08:05] <Laforge> Hmm who has the same problem i do?
[08:06] <jiyuu0> retiarius, is there a prob with the ubuntuguide addon cd?
[08:06] <mpq> this is a serious problem
[08:06] <Curlydave> ahhhh i did the restricted module thig but the vid card driver firs step is still pulling E: COuldn't find package linux-restricted modules
[08:06] <des> delire: sry for asking stupid questions, when i write 'rm -fr ~/.amule' in /home/des/ directory it says no such directory , but i can see it in file browser that there is .aMule directory .
[08:06] <mpq> I can't use the computer when the mouse is so screwed up
[08:06] <Seveas> Curlydave, install linux-686 or linux-k7 (intel or amd)
[08:06] <Curlydave> hmm, how do i do that?
[08:06] <delire> des: well the rm -fr ~/.aMule
[08:06] <retiarius> jiyuu0, i don't know. Trying to get DVDs to play today and its not going well.
[08:07] <JairunCaloth> .amule and .aMule are different in linux.
[08:07] <delire> des: linux is strategically case-specific
[08:07] <des> delire: yea just found it out thx
[08:07] <Seveas> Curlydave, apt-get install linux-686
[08:07] <jiyuu0> retiarius, libdvdcss2 + xine + make sure your sound is configured correctly
[08:07] <Seveas> or -k7
[08:07] <Curlydave> k ty
[08:07] <Curlydave> would it be k8?
[08:07] <mpq> I need help
[08:08] <Seveas> Curlydave, have you installed the amd64 package?
[08:08] <mpq> my mouse cursor moves way too fast
[08:08] <Curlydave> indeed
[08:08] <mpq> and I can't fix it
[08:08] <Seveas> then it's -k8
[08:08] <Curlydave> ahh ty very muc
[08:08] <des> delire: yea just found it out thx, dam still same problem althought splash screen with first time ... blabla run time appeared ... and then aborted ):
[08:08] <delire> des: you can cd into /home/someoneelse and still (as you) type 'ls ~/file', and it will list the contents of /home/you/file
[08:08] <Curlydave> uhoh permission error :(
[08:09] <Curlydave> 13 permission denied
[08:09] <delire> des: 'apt-get install --reinstall amule'
[08:09] <des> delire: tryed
[08:10] <des> delire: does not solve it
[08:10] <anto9us> mpq: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change various settings for your touchpad, I suggest you make a copy before editing it though
[08:10] <Curlydave> seveas: do you know why it would be giving me a "13 permisson denied" error?
[08:10] <delire> des: i don't know.. you don't have an ~/.eMule or an ~/.emule? i remember there being some aspect of amule's session registration located there.
[08:10] <retiarius> jiyuu0, i must be missing a module for xine
[08:10] <Laforge> Ok so i am going out right now, and most people sure that if i get a different card it will help or no?
[08:10] <tritium> mpq, try the mouse configuration applet (System->Preferences->Mouse) first
[08:10] <Seveas> Curlydave, sudo apt-get ....
[08:11] <mpq> tritium, that's not the problem
[08:11] <Curlydave> oh forgot sudo ty1
[08:11] <Curlydave> now it says can't find package linux-k8
[08:11] <mpq> the sensitivity is already near the lowest setting
[08:11] <mpq> but it's too fast
[08:11] <tritium> mpq, then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:11] <des> i did rm on it then i run it again then it aborted then i reinstall it as you said and then i run it again and then abort agai
[08:11] <des> again
[08:12] <Tritis> Laforge: Yes, it will work, but make sure the card is supported before you buy it.
[08:12] <Laforge> ok which are, if you know any off the top of your head?
[08:12] <mpq> tritium, what was the point of that?
[08:12] <retiarius>
[08:12] <Curlydave> seveas: do you know why it would say "couldn't finc package linux-k8"?
[08:13] <Tritis> Laforge: You might want to read this page first though http://www.faqs.org/docs/ethernet/Ethernet-HOWTO-4.html#mystery   Or just go out and spend $10
[08:13] <Seveas> because it either does not exist or you don't have restricted in your repository
[08:13] <Curlydave> hmmmm
[08:13] <Necrosan> added multiverse
[08:13] <Necrosan> still not seeing anytihng
[08:13] <tritium> mpq, rather than editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf by hand, it's best to use dpkg-reconfigure
[08:13] <Curlydave> perhaps a reboot is in order
[08:13] <Seveas> no
[08:13] <Laforge> but 10 dollars on what card?
[08:13] <des> delire: i did rm on .aMule in home/me/  then i run it again then it aborted then i reinstall it as you said and then i run it again and then abort again
[08:14] <Laforge> what brand supports linux?
[08:14] <Seveas> this is linux, you only reboot after installing a new kernel :)
[08:14] <anto9us> mpq: you can change minspeed and maxspeed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Mine are set to 0.75 and 1.2 respectively
[08:14] <hondje> Laforge: brand of what?
[08:14] <Laforge> network card
[08:14] <Laforge> ethernet
[08:14] <hondje> oh, most work
[08:14] <hondje> realtek and the cheapo linksys ones from walmart work great
[08:15] <delire> des: i don't know. try a 'dpkg -P amule && apt-get update && apt-get install amule' if that doesn't work try xmule ;)
[08:15] <des> delire: xmule sucks , but i will try all these  and thx anyway ;)
[08:15] <delire> Laforge: i haven't come across a PCI ethernet card that doesn't work in around 6 years.
[08:15] <Laforge> lol well take down ADMtek
[08:15] <Laforge> that one doesnt
[08:16] <delire> des: as i say, purge it with -P and then try installing again.
[08:16] <Necrosan> nothing i do is enabling me to install mplayer.. any suggestions?
[08:16] <Laforge> all right i will talk to the people at the store to get more info, thanks for all the help guys
[08:16] <mpq> anto9us: I couldn't find an option for that
[08:16] <delire> Laforge: Realtek or D-Link for instance
[08:16] <nickrud> mpq, since this is a different mouse, you may need to change the device
[08:17] <atomsk> does anyone know if theres a package with the linux system calls man pages in Ubuntu and what is its name?
[08:17] <mpq> different mouse?
[08:17] <delire> Necrosan: what happens when you try to install. post in #flood
[08:17] <mpq> what are you talking about?
[08:17] <anto9us> mpq: I don't think it's detected your touchpad correctly
[08:17] <nickrud> mpq, didn't you say your usb mouse was working?
[08:17] <mpq> yeah
[08:17] <mpq> but it broke
[08:17] <delire> mpq: is it a synaptic touchpad?
[08:17] <mpq> I don't know
[08:17] <delire> mpq: what is the laptop?
[08:17] <mpq> it's a laptop touchpad
[08:17] <mpq> hp
[08:18] <delire> mpq:  i would 'apt-get install qsynaptics'
[08:18] <delire> mpq: i think your hp touchpad uses a 'synaptic' touchpad
[08:18] <AristoMagnus> Hi !
[08:19] <frogger^> hi
[08:19] <mpq> it wouldn't let me install qsynaptics
[08:19] <anto9us> alps touchpad works under synaptics too
[08:19] <delire> mpq: why not?
[08:19] <AristoMagnus> I cannot install amsn or azureus from apt, someone can tell me what to add to my server list
[08:19] <des> delire: did just as you said to , still same message "Aborted" :\
[08:19] <mpq> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:19] <mpq> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:19] <mpq> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:19] <mpq> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:19] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, universe
[08:19] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, see http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38 for an example
[08:19] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, what you mean
[08:19] <mpq> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:19] <mpq> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:19] <mpq> that package should be filed.
[08:19] <mpq> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:19] <AristoMagnus> ok
[08:20] <mpq> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:20] <mpq>   qsynaptics: Depends: xfree86-driver-synaptics but it is not going to be installed
[08:20] <mpq> E: Broken packages
[08:20] <Alfred1881> heelp , my liquid wheaters -karamba theme does not work anymore
[08:20] <Rayen16> hi, I have installed Ubuntu 5.04, I have read that the 'root' account is DISABLED by default, but how can I logon now?
[08:20] <Seveas> mpq DO NOT paste in here
[08:20] <AirWays> Pastebin !
[08:20] <mpq> I have no idea what the problem is
[08:20] <anto9us> mpq: try sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics
[08:20] <Seveas> Rayen16, using the login you created when installing
[08:20] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, And what is the file to put the server list?
[08:20] <delire> mpq: ahah, it doesn't support xorg. sorry. that's a no go. are you using gnome?
[08:20] <Seveas> mpq synaptics drivers are installed by default
[08:21] <mpq> yeah
[08:21] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <AristoMagnus> ok thanks
[08:21] <Seveas> to edit it: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:21] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, its ok, ive put a root passwd
[08:21] <AristoMagnus> and ill use vi ;O)
[08:21] <Rayen16> Seveas yes it asked me for a "Full Name" I gave up the name: "Rayen @ Matrix" but it didn't ask me to make a 'username' OR a 'password'
[08:21] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, ok :)
[08:21] <delire> mpq: i would talk to anto9us about this. i use a synaptic touchpad on a debian, not ubuntu laptop.
[08:22] <Seveas> Rayen16, that's not ok...
[08:22] <Rayen16> Seveas i thought so too, I did the install 3 times, I have read everything _VERY_ carefully...
[08:22] <Seveas> Rayen16, boot into recovery mode (won't need a password) and copy your /etc/passwd to a pastebin
[08:23] <mpq> this is ridiculous
[08:23] <deamon> hia, can anybody help me to get my dual monitor to work?
[08:23] <mjr> wonder if the installer reacts badly to the @
[08:23] <Rayen16> Seveas ok brb
[08:23] <Seveas> by the way: Rayen @ Matrix might be an illegal fullname
[08:23] <des> can someone explain why aMule keeps crashin on start with only aborted message in console ? removed .aMule dir did purge did re install still got aborted . xmule seems to be working normally .
[08:23] <Seveas> it could have b0rked on that
[08:23] <Necrosan> Seveas, It isn't in other distros.
[08:23] <webg2> hi
[08:23] <Necrosan> or any other *NIX i've used.
[08:24] <Seveas> ok
[08:24] <delire> des: is there a #amule?
[08:24] <Necrosan> installer probably doesn't like it.
[08:24] <des> delire: irc channel u mean ?
[08:24] <webg2> yes?
[08:24] <Necrosan> my advice is fix passwd, or reinstall with a single word for a name and modify with usermod
[08:24] <delire> des: yes
[08:25] <des> delire: havent searched i will now :) i thought asking here on ubuntu will be better ...
[08:26] <cerius> kennst sich jemand mit amule istalation aus und woher bekomme ich den richtigen amul paket her
[08:26] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, so, the only thing we need to do is to uncomment 6 server :P
[08:26] <AristoMagnus> too easy!
[08:26] <mdke> cerius, english here please
[08:26] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, im a gentoo user so...
[08:29] <Seveas> abood, generally: yes
[08:29] <X7C> but is that "stupid"?
[08:29] <delire> mpq: see google.com/linux. search for your hp laptop +mouse speed. i can guarantee someone else out there has had the same issue
[08:29] <Seveas> X7C, in his eyes it is :)
[08:30] <X7C>
[08:30] <AristoMagnus> X7C, Yes, cof course, on the cd, its not the latest package
[08:30] <X7C>
[08:30] <Seveas> X7C, well that's not true
[08:30] <Seveas> if it wants to install from cd, the package on cd is the latest
[08:30] <X7C> ubuntu releases stuff every 6 months dude
[08:30] <coreymon77> hi everyone
[08:30] <delire> can anyone confirm whether the synaptic touchpad driver is shipped with hoary?
[08:30] <abood> Seveas, ok whats the command for installing file.deb ?
[08:30] <Seveas> i meant AristoMagnus there ofcourse
[08:30] <coreymon77> Seveas: thanki you soo much
[08:30] <LinuxJones> AristoMagnus, comment out the cd reference in /etc/aqpt/sopurces.lst
[08:30] <Seveas> abood, dpkg -i [debfile]
[08:30] <abood> thx
[08:31] <abood> thx :)
[08:31] <coreymon77> Seveas: it works now (im in linux!)
[08:31] <Seveas> coreymon77, nice!
[08:31] <LinuxJones> AristoMagnus, err /etc/apt/sources.lst
[08:31] <X7C> anyone running brreezy?
[08:31] <anto9us> delire: yes, it is, it's working on my system all-be-it with an alps touchpad
[08:31] <AristoMagnus> LinuxJones, yeah. already done ;)
[08:31] <Seveas> LinuxJones, do you have a few minutes lag? ;)
[08:31] <LinuxJones> AristoMagnus, and it still wants to load from the cd ?
[08:31] <AristoMagnus> no
[08:31] <LinuxJones> Seveas, yeah
[08:31] <AristoMagnus> its ok now
[08:31] <AristoMagnus> ;)
[08:31] <LinuxJones> AristoMagnus, oh ok ;)
[08:31] <AristoMagnus> but i still cannot found azureus on the package list ;/
[08:32] <delire> anto9us: what is the driver name you have?
[08:32] <X7C> anyone running breezy?
[08:32] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, thats normal
[08:32] <Seveas> azureus needs java
[08:32] <mdke> X7C, check the topic
[08:32] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, and?
[08:32] <toran> hey guys, where would /path/to/htdocs/htdocs be with apache2?
[08:32] <Seveas> there is no java on ubuntu by default
[08:32] <Seveas> legal issues
[08:32] <X7C> !!
[08:32] <anto9us> delire: xorg-driver-synaptics is the package
[08:32] <Seveas> toran, wherever you set it to in jour config
[08:32] <X7C> haha
[08:32] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, but i can install another java version
[08:33] <Seveas> AristoMagnus, sure
[08:33] <nickrud> X7C, I think everyone here is waiting for the surgeons to finish stitching
[08:33] <toran> I'm on the default config v_v
[08:33] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, on gentoo, sun-java and azureus are there
[08:33] <coreymon77> one question though
[08:33] <X7C> but i asked who is running breezy not who won't run breezy cause it says on topic
[08:33] <X7C> :p
[08:33] <anto9us> delire: in the xorg.conf the driver name is synaptics and device is /dev/psaux
[08:33] <delire> mpq: anto9us tells me that the package is  xorg-driver-synaptics
[08:33] <coreymon77> right now im useing an internet irc
[08:33] <nickrud> X7C, i have breezy, but I'm not running it :)
[08:33] <Seveas> download the .bin from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, make-jpkg, dpkg -i java.deb
[08:33] <X7C> :)
[08:33] <shane> i made a backup of my sources.list but now i can't put them back in my new ubuntu
[08:33] <coreymon77> how do i add this to konversation
[08:33] <mpq> it said I already had xorg-driver-synaptics
[08:33] <X7C> does expocity work?
[08:34] <shane> something about permisions and how i don't have them
[08:34] <toran> Seveas: hmm... I don't see any htdocs stuff in my apache2.conf. Any pointers as to what I should add?
[08:34] <mdke> AristoMagnus, the various ways to install java are listed on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:34] <AristoMagnus> Seveas, Why i need to download the .bin file if i do a apt-get
[08:34] <delire> mpq: and you can't now install qsynaptics?
[08:34] <anto9us> mpq: can you find the section input device in xorg.conf?
[08:34] <AristoMagnus> mdke, good to know
[08:34] <Seveas> there is no apt-get for java
[08:34] <mdke> toran, check the documentation, the conf files are divided in debian based systems
[08:34] <Seveas> java-package contains the make-jpkg ommand
[08:34] <AristoMagnus> ok
[08:34] <shane> so um how do i put them back/
[08:34] <mdke> Seveas, there are java packages which are apt-gettable
[08:34] <delire> anto9us: thanks, not in xorg or ubuntu here..
[08:34] <mpq> anto0us: yeah
[08:34] <Seveas> mdke, not from official repositories
[08:35] <mpq> *9
[08:35] <coreymon77> cansomebody please tell me how i can get to this on konversation
[08:35] <anto9us> mpq: does it say "Synaptics Touchpad" ?
[08:35] <mdke> Seveas, no but there are repositories which do not contain anything else and which are safe, i.e they won't break your system
[08:35] <anathema> hey guys
[08:35] <mpq> yeah
[08:35] <anathema> uhh
[08:35] <mdke> Seveas, i used the blackdown ones happily
[08:35] <anathema> trying to compile beep-media-player from source since it keeps bombing
[08:35] <shane>  "/join #ubuntu" is how
[08:36] <Seveas> blackdown is ok too
[08:36] <anto9us> mpq: add         Option          "MinSpeed"              "0.75"
[08:36] <anto9us>         Option          "MaxSpeed"              "1.2"
[08:36] <anathema> i get this error.
[08:36] <anathema> checking for X... no
[08:36] <anathema> configure: error: Cannot find X11 headers/libraries
[08:36] <Seveas> anathema, DO NOT PASTE
[08:36] <Seveas> and beep-media-player from the repositories is ok
[08:36] <anathema> what? sorry, was only 2 lines
[08:36] <popegg> join #flood
[08:36] <anathema> no, its not ok, constantly freezing when im playing songs from cd.
[08:36] <Seveas> anathema, you only need to change the config
[08:36] <shane> can anyone tell me how to get permission to copy a file into /apt ?
[08:36] <anto9us> mpq: then you'll need to restart x server
[08:36] <anathema> what do i change in the config ?
[08:36] <Seveas> anathema, open ~/.bmp/config
[08:36] <toran> hmm... I do "locate htdocs" and it doesn't find anything. what does that mean?
[08:36] <forester> Is ubuntu derived from another distribution?
[08:36] <mpq> how do I restart X?
[08:36] <anathema> ok
[08:37] <delire> CTRL-ALT-BACKSPC
[08:37] <hondje> forester: yeah, from debian
[08:37] <Seveas> find a line that starts with output_plugin
[08:37] <mattlins> Where is a good spot to install programs (ie Java)?  What dir should I put that in?
[08:37] <nickrud> forester, evil
[08:37] <Seveas> and make it look like output_plugin=/usr/lib/bmp/Output/libesdout.so
[08:37] <Razor-X> mattlins: take your pic
[08:37] <anathema> esd is gone, im using alsa wiht dmix
[08:37] <hondje> mattlins: I think the standard says /opt or /usr/local
[08:37] <Seveas> mattlins, /usr/local
[08:37] <hondje> I tend to go with /usr/local
[08:37] <mattlins> ok
[08:37] <forester> nickrud: That's not what the ethnic looking apple-esque models on the website tell me.
[08:37] <Razor-X> mattlins: the guide gives suggestions, though
[08:37] <Razor-X> I generally install my stuff to /opt/
[08:37] <carthik> I hate printers
[08:37] <Seveas> anathema, well, that will b0rk op more too, but than change the output_plugin to the dmix one
[08:38] <nickrud> forester, I don't talk to my screen, so I don't know what they think of me
[08:38] <mattlins> And what file do I add java.exe to the path?  So it does it at startup?
[08:38] <forester> I don't talk to my screen either.
[08:38] <carthik> printers are gods way of reminding us of the limits of our intelligence
[08:38] <hondje> I tend to put commerical apps in /opt, like matlab
[08:38] <anathema> well ive already got alsa working fine
[08:38] <forester> nickrud: Nice try though.
[08:38] <anathema> the sound is fine
[08:38] <anathema> its only when im playing from a cd,
[08:38] <anathema> specially when i skip around
[08:38] <delire> wonder: sorry, i used /msg instead on /me (wonder)
[08:38] <hondje> mattlins: You want to make a link from it to /usr/bin
[08:39] <anathema> so i dunno how to fix this.
[08:39] <hondje> so something like ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_03/bin/java /usr/bin/java
[08:39] <anathema> dont wanna use xmms it sucks
[08:39] <forester> Is there a document that details why ubuntu is needed and/or was created?
[08:39] <mattlins> ok
[08:39] <Seveas> anathema, apt-get build-dep beep-media-player should work
[08:39] <tritium> hondje, using java-package is preferred
[08:39] <toran> I do "locate htdocs" and it doesn't find anything. what does that mean?
[08:39] <hondje> mattlins: now it's in your path
[08:39] <mattlins> thank you
[08:39] <Seveas> that'll download all bmp's build dependencies
[08:39] <hondje> tritium: java is apt-able in ubuntu?
[08:39] <carthik> Could someone who is experienced with printers, and printing over the network to a printer attached to a desktop please guide me? I am starting all over now.
[08:40] <delire> forester: ubuntu is derived from debian
[08:40] <carthik> I would prefer pm-ing, if that's okay
[08:40] <tritium> hondje, no, but you can build a .deb from Sun's installer .bin using java-package
[08:40] <hondje> oh, I see
[08:40] <anathema> then apt-get source beep-media-player to get the source?
[08:40] <Seveas> yes
[08:40] <anathema> k
[08:40] <iamnow> hi
[08:40] <hondje> thanks for telling me, sounds like it'd save work in the future
[08:40] <Seveas> and dpkg-buildpackage to build the deb
[08:40] <iamnow> is there a button that installs java?
[08:40] <mpq> thanks a lot guys
[08:40] <delire> Seveas: isn't dpkg-buildpackage awesome
[08:40] <anathema> thats all i type?
[08:40] <delire> mpq: works?
[08:40] <mpq> now instead of being hard to control, it's IMPOSSIBLE to control
[08:41] <tritium> mattlins, if you download Sun's installer, you can sudo apt-get install java-package, and then use it to build a .deb for java that you can install
[08:41] <mpq> I was being sarcastic
[08:41] <delire> mpq: hehe
[08:41] <mpq> "hehe"?
[08:41] <anto9us> mpq: you can try different values
[08:41] <delire> mpq: well tweak some more.
[08:41] <mattlins> tritium: I did download the installer.
[08:41] <hondje> tritium: Why can't they put java in non-free? Against suns distribution license?
[08:41] <shane> how can i edit a file thats in /apt?
[08:41] <mattlins> tritum: Now what do I type?
[08:41] <shane> like replace it with something diffrent
[08:42] <HappyFool> shane: you mean /etc/apt ?
[08:42] <HappyFool> like /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:42] <iamnow> how bout a button called install java
[08:42] <mpq> is there a way to restart x without having to reboot?
[08:42] <Seveas> mpq, yes
[08:42] <nickrud> iamnow, no
[08:42] <hondje> mpq: ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:42] <tritium> hondje, yes, Sun's licensing is too restrictive for that
[08:42] <Seveas> hit <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[08:42] <delire> mpq: CTRL-ALT-BCKSPC
[08:42] <anathema> i made my own deb of the java thing, thanks to tritium :D
[08:42] <HappyFool> heh
[08:42] <hondje> tritium: Thats' a shame, they'd get a lot of good will if they would open up
[08:42] <tritium> anathema, awesome :)
[08:42] <shane> happyfool yes
[08:42] <anathema> if anyone wants it i could put it on a server
[08:42] <hondje> Oh well, gcj is coming along well I hear
[08:42] <anathema> they should put a .deb of it in multiverse
[08:42] <tritium> hondje, yes, I agree...
[08:43] <HappyFool> shane: try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' from the terminal
[08:43] <iamnow> maybe someone can make a script that does it from homedir with python
[08:43] <shane> i have a custom sources list
[08:43] <shane> ok
[08:43] <tritium> anathema, no, you can't, as it's against Sun's licensing
[08:43] <delire> iamnow: would be trivial i guess
[08:43] <HappyFool> shane: or 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' if you're not in GUI mode
[08:43] <hondje> Does gcj have a vm, or does it compile stuff?
[08:43] <anathema> ah doh
[08:43] <delire> iamnow: use os.popen() to resource apt
[08:43] <Seveas> hondje, it can do both
[08:43] <Dave2> Is there any way to get libvorbis 1.1 in Ubuntu Hoary?
[08:44] <hondje> Seveas: That's pretty neat
[08:44] <delire> iamnow: i mean dpkg.. make a *.deb of it or just use the *.bin as is
[08:44] <tritium> mattlins, if you want to, you can "sudo apt-get install java-package", and then "fakeroot java-package <path-to-Sun-installer>"
[08:44] <iamnow> delire: you know how to make a python script to install java? maybe they will put it somewhere
[08:44] <tritium> mattlins, oops, s/java-package/make-jpkg"
[08:44] <delire> iamnow: i could write it yes..
[08:45] <iamnow> delire: you would be like god but not god but good
[08:45] <delire> iamnow: a shell script would be just as effective though.
[08:45] <shane> happyfool thanx man ^_^
[08:45] <HappyFool> np
[08:45] <popegg> you are welcome
[08:45] <LinuxJones> Dave2, sudo apt-get update && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <Anubis> is anyone responsible for getting us new packages?
[08:45] <Dave2> for libvorbis 1.1? o_O
[08:45] <mattlins> E: Couldn't find package j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin
[08:45] <Anubis> Like gtk-gnutella?
[08:45] <mattlins> thats what I got
[08:46] <mpq> now the cursor shakes when I have my finger on the touchpad
[08:46] <mpq> the mouse is worse now
[08:46] <Seveas> mattlins, give it the .deb file
[08:46] <mattlins> i thought I was building the deb file
[08:46] <delire> mpq: i would google.com/linux for your laptop +touchpad
[08:46] <anto9us> mpq: I can paste the entire set of options to you if you like
[08:46] <mpq> also x didn't start again when I did ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:46] <shane> i have a question how do i write a wiki?
[08:46] <Dave2> LinuxJones, If libvorbis 1.1 was in Hoary, surely it'd've updated itself?
[08:46] <mpq> I had to reboot the computer
[08:46] <LinuxJones> Dave2, sorry I didn't realize you wanted the spcific version
[08:46] <Seveas> mattlins, try tab completion for the filename :)
[08:46] <tritium> mattlins, first you need to install java-package (sudo apt-get install java-package)
[08:46] <Dave2> yeah
[08:46] <delire> mpq: it did, just the session manager picked X up again.
[08:46] <Dave2> 1.0.1 is what's in apt at the moment
[08:47] <hondje> shane: go to wikipedia.org, go to help, they have some quick-start tutorials
[08:47] <Dave2> 1.1's supposed to have a lot of improvements
[08:47] <shane> k thank you
[08:47] <mattlins> Ok, where can I find a list of the package names?
[08:47] <tritium> mattlins, once it's installed, "fakeroot make-jpkg j2sdk-1_4_2_08-linux-i586.bin", if that is the filename of the installer you downloaded from Sun
[08:47] <LinuxJones> Dave2, that probably won't make it into stable untill the Breezy release
[08:48] <anathema> i personally dont care about suns licensing tritum..if helping my fellow ubuntu users is the worst thing i do with software today, the creators can consider themselves lucky :)
[08:48] <mpq> it's next to impossible to use the mouse now
[08:48] <Seveas> delire, it's not legal
[08:48] <mattlins> bash: fakeroot: command not found
[08:48] <hondje> delire: Maybe they pay the companies?
[08:48] <Dave2> LinuxJones, I was wondering if there was an unofficial repository or whatever which I could get it from
[08:48] <mpq> it's like I have to trick it into doing it what I want
[08:48] <delire> Seveas: i realise.
[08:48] <hondje> anathema: But if we all did that, then we couldn't complain about people violating the GPL :)
[08:48] <delire> hondje: i don't think they do in this case.
[08:48] <anathema> haha
[08:48] <anathema> my azureus window is so full i have to scroll to see all the torrents im downloading
[08:49] <hondje> I never really looked at mepis
[08:49] <tritium> anathema, if you do that, I don't want to know about it...
[08:49] <nickrud> mpq, then it looks like the changes you were given are in the right place, just not the right values. Try some other numbers
[08:49] <hondje> I heard good things, then it seemed to just 'sit' there
[08:49] <carthik> Okay, so I screwed up cupsys - now how do I ask my computer to reinstall all of it, as if it were a fresh install ?
[08:49] <anathema> haha yeah
[08:49] <LinuxJones> Dave2, well you can google for it but it's not advisable to install software from outside the Ubuntu repositories :(
[08:49] <anathema> well, if its not allowd in here i wont do it
[08:49] <mattlins> tritum: I got "bash: fakeroot: command not found
[08:49] <mattlins> "
[08:49] <delire> hondje: it's a Just Works distro, albeit very non-free.
[08:49] <hondje> Ah, like mandrake or SuSE?
[08:49] <delire> hondje: better IMO
[08:49] <mpq> ok, I lowered the values
[08:49] <delire> hondje: debian based, though not in spirit.
[08:49] <anto9us> mpq: it could be sensitivity - Option "Fingerlow"  "50" and Option "FingerHigh" "80" may help
[08:49] <tritium> mattlins, when you installed java-package, it should have installed fakeroot as well, as it is a dependency of it
[08:49] <hondje> oh, that's right! :)
[08:49] <_kevin> when you download files from amule by default wher do they go?
[08:50] <hondje> Mandrake was fun, when I bought 7.2 at the store it came with a whole CD of commerical apps
[08:50] <hondje> You sure wouldn't see that these days :-/
[08:50] <anathema> hey its mandriva now!
[08:50] <anathema> haha
[08:50] <anathema> poor buggers
[08:50] <delire> _kevin ~/.amule/Incoming i believe
[08:50] <hondje> what a terrible name
[08:50] <mpq> this is ridiculous
[08:50] <anathema> wonder why they changed it
[08:50] <mattlins> tritum: when you refer to the java packager are you talking about the .bin file I downloaded from sun?
[08:50] <delire> hondje: truly.
[08:50] <mattlins> packager = package
[08:50] <tritium> mattlins, no, that's the exact name of the package I want you to install
[08:50] <_kevin> where is the amule normally located
[08:51] <hondje> they start out, make all kinds of cool stuff for newbies, go bankrupt, fight their way into profit and respectability....and now they're called mandriva
[08:51] <hondje> Why not just go with mangina
[08:51] <tritium> mattlins, do this exactly: "sudo apt-get install java-package"
[08:51] <HappyFool> merged with connectiva, hence name-change
[08:51] <delire> _kevin: 'whereis amule'
[08:51] <mpq> okay, I added the sensitivity option
[08:51] <delire> _kevin: user directories are /home/you/.aMule
[08:51] <mpq> now what?
[08:51] <_kevin> i dunno the folder the amule director is
[08:51] <delire> time to go.. out
[08:52] <mattlins> tritium: E: Couldn't find package java-package
[08:52] <_kevin> i don't see it in home
[08:52] <anto9us> mpq: as ever, restart x to invoke the settings, you'd do well to find settings known to work for you hardware though :)
[08:52] <nickrud> mpq, if it's too sensitive, try lowering the number, and restarting X
[08:52] <tritium> mattlins, have you enabled multiverse?
[08:52] <mpq> x doesn't restart when I ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:52] <goldfish> what happens?
[08:52] <mpq> it closes but doesn't start again
[08:52] <mpq> and I have to reboot
[08:52] <mattlins> tritium: I don't know what that is, sorry.
[08:52] <goldfish> uh oh :/
[08:53] <Anubis> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:53] <Anubis>   libavcodeccvs libpostproc0 libxvidcore4 mplayer-k6
[08:53] <Anubis> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[08:53] <Anubis> whats does this mean?
[08:53] <hondje> besides making updates a little easier, in theory, what's the advantage of turning sun's .bin into a .deb?
[08:53] <tritium> it's under package management
[08:53] <nickrud> hondje, so you can remove it cleanly if you want
[08:53] <hondje> but rm -rf /usr/local/java would do that cleanly, too...well, it'd break symlinks
[08:53] <mattlins> tritum: I'm following the guide to enable multiverse
[08:54] <tritium> mattlins, http://ubuntuguide.org/#repositories <-- look here for how to add the multiverse repositories
[08:54] <mpq> YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING
[08:54] <mpq> the mouse doesn't move AT ALL now
[08:55] <occy> jdub, why not just use: Ubuntites?
[08:55] <mpq> this wouldn't be a problem if my USB mouse didn't break
[08:55] <anto9us> mpq: use google as delire suggested :)
[08:55] <mpq> I DID
[08:55] <mpq> NOTHING RELEVANT CAME UP
[08:55] <HappyFool> please don't shout
[08:55] <mpq> sorry
[08:55] <anto9us> mpq: then play with the settings and to help you can sudo startx from command line
[08:55] <mpq> I'm really angry
[08:56] <tritium> mpq, don't take it out on us, though, dude
[08:56] <michael__> still in my first day of ubuntu...   We didn't break your setup.
[08:57] <mpq> ...
[08:57] <[Piratez] > :)
[08:57] <hondje> poor guy
[08:57] <hondje> touchpads would drive me nuts
[08:57] <sri> iamnow: X got updated but not all packages were updated so it's pretty broken
[08:57] <anto9us> mpq: what model is your hp laptop?
[08:57] <sri> iamnow: it was worse eralier when getty wasn't around, so you oculdn't even log in :D
[08:58] <[Piratez] > http://piratez.ath.cx/temp/unbuntu_linux_screenshot.jpg just testing it out :) its amazing; works well with netgear wireless!!!
[08:58] <Seveas> anto9us, he's gone already :)
[08:58] <[Piratez] > http://piratez.ath.cx/temp/Forces-of-Nature.jpg
[08:58] <tritium> sri, what's wrong with X?
[08:58] <abood> guys, damn firestarter its dropping all my connection when i start it, i allowed my local ip and my needed ports but it dosent response ?!
[08:58] <anto9us> Seveas: thanks, I didn't notice
[08:58] <retiarius> back after a reload, how do I try the via driver for X?
[08:59] <abood> any idea ?
[08:59] <sri> tritium: after a major update about 2-3 days ago I could no longer start X saying it couldn't find the fixed font
[08:59] <Necrosan> mpq, switch back to windows.
[08:59] <Necrosan> your brain isnt big enough for any other OS.
[08:59] <Jormundgand> Corrected typo: http://piratez.ath.cx/temp/ubuntu_linux_screenshot.jpg
[08:59] <tritium> sri, it was not updated yet.
[08:59] <[Piratez] > :)
[08:59] <sri> tritium: since then there has been one or more updates and it's still pretty borken
[08:59] <amonkey> i just removed one of my storage drives and when i rebooted i found out that grub was actually on that drie pointing at the drive wiht ubuntu on it. i have the ubuntu install disk, how can i use that to put grub(or lilo) on my drive without erasing the data?
[08:59] <Nub> hi if anyone can help me that'd be awesome, trying to get microsoft mn-130 nic to work in ubuntu with modified tulip driver
[08:59] <Nub> need help
[08:59] <sri> tritium: yesterday, it says that xutil was held back, and when Iremoved it (and apparently all the x fonts with it) it won't let me re-intall because it's dependency is apparently uninstallable.
[09:00] <iamnow> is it easy to get dialup working in ubuntu?
[09:00] <tritium> sri, you must be running breezy, despite the warnings (see topic)
[09:00] <sri> tritium: I'm cool if it's broken, it is breezy after al.
[09:00] <sri> tritium: yeah, I updated to breezy long before the warnings :)
[09:00] <satriani> hi all
[09:01] <tritium> sri, okay, good luck
[09:01] <sri> tritium: I'm not complaining mind you, just wondering when it'll get fixed.
[09:01] <satriani> I've a problem with intel high definition audio
[09:01] <sri> tritium: if it doesn't, I'll compile my own X
[09:01] <Jormundgand> I'm sticking to Hoary until Breezy is stable enough for use. I anticipate it'll be stable enough well before the release date, but hey.
[09:01] <mpq> I guess it's a fix
[09:01] <Nub> hi can someone help me?
[09:01] <satriani> does someone want to help me ?
[09:01] <nickrud> mpq, better?
[09:01] <mpq> but I still don't like the way it moves
[09:01] <sri> the problem with hoary is that new stable packages of say evolution and what not that might fix some bugs for me won't be updated.
[09:01] <[Piratez] > will the next build have the latest version of all the apps on the live cd
[09:01] <ltuvis> how exit from man command ?
[09:02] <hondje> ltuvis: q
[09:02] <ltuvis> thnx
[09:02] <anto9us> mpq: tweak it till you like it :)
[09:02] <anathema> q to exit
[09:02] <Necrosan> Nub, buy a new nic?
[09:02] <Necrosan> they
[09:02] <hondje> you're welcome
[09:02] <Necrosan> re like $10 at best buy
[09:02] <anathema> / to search
[09:02] <nickrud> sri, I think ubuntu's and gnome's releases are sync'd for a reason :)
[09:02] <sri> so for instance if evolution-exchange is broken, I have to switch to breezy to get any new versions of evo.
[09:02] <amonkey> i'll brb, if anyone knows how to install just grub from the ubuntu install disk please send me a private msg
[09:02] <Nub> Necrosan: i'd like to get this one working
[09:02] <LinuxJones> satriani, what's wrong ?
[09:02] <mpq> anto9us: I can't restart x without rebooting
[09:02] <mpq> and it takes too long
[09:02] <sri> nickrud: evolution is not part of the gnome release process.
[09:02] <tritium> amonkey, grub-install
[09:02] <anto9us> mpq: did you try sudo startx?
[09:02] <Nub> Necrosan: by all acounts it should be able to with the modified driver
[09:02] <hondje> mpq ctrl-alt-backspace together
[09:02] <hondje> That'll restart just X
[09:03] <nickrud> sri, yeah, but I understand they're now trying to follow it.
[09:03] <mpq> hondje: it doesn't
[09:03] <sri> nickrud: and stable releases of gnome 2.10 series should show up on hoary
[09:03] <mpq> it closes x but doesn't start it
[09:03] <mpq> and when I did startx it did some weird thing
[09:03] <sri> nickrud: not that there has been any that I know of.
[09:03] <hondje> mpq: oh, it doesn't bring back the login screen?
[09:03] <mpq> instead of my setup
[09:03] <mpq> no
[09:03] <abood> guys,  firestarter its dropping all my connection when i start it, i allowed my local ip and my needed ports but it dosent response ?! any ideas !!
[09:03] <mpq> it shows the text-only login
[09:03] <nickrud> sri, I would kinda like 2.10.1 or others, but we won't, you're right
[09:03] <hondje> mpq: temp work-around, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart when that happens
[09:04] <sri> nickrud: but certainly other software should be updated if there are bugs.
[09:04] <satriani> LinuxJones,  I followed instructions here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HdaIntelSoundHowto ....the second method, but this is the result
[09:04] <Fator_Dee> abood: did you click on "apply policy"?
[09:04] <satriani> ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/azx.c:503: codec_mask = 0x3
[09:04] <satriani> ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/hda_codec.c:416: hda_codec: no AFG nod e found
[09:04] <satriani> ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/hda_codec.c:416: hda_codec: no AFG nod e found
[09:04] <satriani> ALSA /usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/pci/azx/azx.c:782: azx: no codecs initialized
[09:04] <satriani> Intel HDA: probe of 0000:00:1b.0 failed with error -6
[09:04] <LinuxJones> mpq, hit ctrl + alt+ backspace...when you get to terminal type /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:04] <tritium> satriani, please don't paste.  use pastebin.com or #flood instead
[09:04] <sri> nickrud: so you're kinda stuck right?  someone needs to create another branch for these things :D
[09:04] <jamminpotato> what is the sim,plest way to install java on ubuntu?
[09:04] <nickrud> sri, yeah, unstable :)
[09:04] <sri> nickrud: yeah, exactly...which is why I'm on breezy ;)
[09:04] <bobgreen5s> quick install script
[09:04] <satriani> tritium, sorry
[09:04] <LinuxJones> mpq, put a sudo in front of that command sorry :)
[09:05] <des> how i add 2.0.. version of amule to package manager ??
[09:05] <tritium> satriani, it's okay.
[09:05] <bobgreen5s> jaminpotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646
[09:05] <tritium> jamminpotato, keep in mind that simplest isn't always best.
[09:05] <abood> Fator_Dee, maybe thats is the proplem that the Aplly policy still disabled means that i cant press on it when i add new policy
[09:06] <Chambers`> does anyone else have an ipod?  I keep getting error even after reading the howto, installation went fine, but trying to play files from Rhythmbox gives an error: Could not open vfs file "file:///media/THOMS%20IPOD/ipod_control/Music/F10/2016.mp3" for reading  <-- any ideas?
[09:06] <LinuxJones> satriani, can you try again using method #1 ?
[09:06] <satriani> do someone know what is the problem ?
[09:06] <jpfarias> hey, can someone help me with locale?
[09:06] <satriani> LinuxJones, ok, but how can I remove error messages ?
[09:06] <LinuxJones> Chambers`, install gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:07] <jpfarias> every time I open a gtk2 app it says my locale is not supported and will use "C" instead
[09:07] <satriani> LinuxJones, how can I restore previous state ?
[09:07] <mattlins> tritium: after I download the java-package, what was the fakeroot command?  It's no longer in the chat browser cache, sorry.
[09:07] <des> tritium: i have only 1.2.6 version of amule in package manager and its very unstable , how i add new 2.0 to package manager ??
[09:07] <LinuxJones> satriani, I am not sure dude compiling alsa scares me :D
[09:07] <Nub> can somebody help me
[09:07] <tritium> mattlins, fakeroot make-jpkg <path-to-Sun-binary-installer>
[09:07] <mpq> I still don't like the way the mouse moves
[09:08] <mpq> but I don't think I can get it any better
[09:08] <Nub> trying to use microsoft MN-130 nic with modified tulip driver
[09:08] <fred_> hello