[08:36] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:20] <rmg51> Morning
[13:39] <waltman> Morning?
[18:36] <InHisName> afternoon


[16:53] <leftyfb> How does one go about requesting a patch from 5.16 to be backported to 5.15? Particularly https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/fcdb44d08a95003c3d040aecdee286156ec6f34e
[16:53] <leftyfb> without this patch, proper wifi 802.11r roaming is broken
[18:06] <sarnold> I can't promise it'd be picked up, but a bug report would be a good first step; ubuntu-bug linux, describe how to test the feature, and *maybe* it'd be useful if you could say that a given newer kernel mainline package works (though if you're on focal I don't think those install..)
[18:22] <Esmil> leftyfb: for extra points you follow this template when writing the bug description https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template


[03:47] <PerfM> what is the purpose of this channel
[03:47] <holstein> PerfM: try the /topic and see if you have any questions
[03:48] <PerfM> any questions about what
[03:49] <holstein> PerfM: there is a /topic for the channel that should explain the purpose.. if you would, check that /topic, and then, im saying, if you have any follow up questions about the purpose of the channel that the /topic doesnt address, ask
[07:56] <Pricey> hggdh: You weren't identified at the time of the request.
[15:25] <silverlion> good day members, I'd like to request an ubuntu cloak after my approval to become an ubuntu member this week. My lp profile is https://www.launchpad.net/~silverlion
[15:26] <IdleOne> hggdh, Pricey ^
[15:26] <IdleOne> silverlion: should not be too long.
[15:27] <silverlion> IdleOne, thank you
 staff -- please set a cloak ubuntu/member/silverlion for silverlion    << from last night
[15:30] <silverlion> k1l_, * unaffiliated/silverlion :is now your hidden host (set by services.)
[15:31] <k1l_> silverlion: yes, the freenode staff needs to set the new cloak. i think tha has not happened so far
[15:32] <silverlion> k1l_, ok, then forgive me my impatience
[15:33] <silverlion> i wasn't aware of the message hggdh posted to staff
[15:33] <k1l_> yep, it was just after you left last night. no trouble so far :)
[15:36] <IdleOne> Pici, AlanBell, Tm_T: if any of you are available for cloak request that would be cool


[00:10] <demetris> hello
[00:11] <demetris> ubuntu mate is installed on hdd xenial
[00:11] <demetris> but i still have an entry on my menu install RELEASE
[00:11] <demetris> what gives?
[00:11] <demetris> how i remove that?
[00:38] <jordany> hello
[01:16] <ubuntu-mate> hi, i'm a newbie (obviously) and am thinking about dual booting w/win7 pro on a laptop... what distro is the best option?
[01:18] <ubuntu-mate> anyone awake here?
[01:22] <randall> nope
[01:23] <randall> another satisfied customer
[01:31] <rumflump> irc needs a light single-purpose bot that detects when people ask a question and then log off before anyone replies
[01:31] <rumflump> so that it can ridicule them if they come back
[01:46] <randall> agreed
[01:50] <rumflump> actually, that's probably doable with weechat triggers. at least, I can collect their whois info and store that
[01:51] <rumflump> setting up a trigger to notice logins from someone who partially or fully matches the List of Losers is the harder part
[08:47] <stevenm> Hi, from what I've been able to gather (just by watching more than researching) ... it seems Ubuntu MATE 16.04... converts indicator's into notifications?  i.e. you only have a notification area... and if you don't also have an indicator area then what's normally in the indicator area (e.g. volume, bluetooth, network) get to be notifications instead
[08:47] <stevenm> Am I right in thinking that?
[12:37] <spurty> wow loving that IRC hasn't skipped a beat
[12:37] <spurty> Is it still gnarly to configure a leaf/node?
[17:22] <salahuddeen> hello
[17:22] <salahuddeen> can anyone guide me to some instructions for a conky setup in ubuntu mate?
[17:27] <sixwheeledbeast> conky as in system monitor?
[17:27] <salahuddeen> yeah
[17:27] <salahuddeen> my desktop looks bland
[17:28] <sixwheeledbeast> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpConky
[17:28] <salahuddeen> thanks
[17:28] <sixwheeledbeast> np
[17:28] <salahuddeen> any suggestions for themes tho?
[17:30] <sixwheeledbeast> no idea, I use the default mate system monitor
[17:30] <salahuddeen> okaay, thanks
[17:49] <ubuntu-mate> hola
[17:49] <ubuntu-mate> alguien que hable español?
[17:52] <ubuntu-mate> necesito ayuda
[18:52] <chelios> hi there, I am trying to disable 'focus follows mouse' without much luck. I reversed the changes I made to enable it in the first place but it does not seem to work. Any ideas?
[21:18] <Ntemis> hello
[21:18] <Ntemis> anyone who can launch plank on mate
[21:54] <DarkPsydeLord> im using plank on mate
[21:55] <DarkPsydeLord> just switched the theme to cupertino and that was all
[21:55] <DarkPsydeLord> but ofc you are long gone :)


[02:43] <cje> grantbow, do you know how I might be able to reach Lyz?
[02:43] <nhaines> cje: if we can figure out what channel pleia2 frequents, you might be able to contact her there.
[02:44] <cje> nhaines, thx, I know she is often here
[02:44] <cje> Just not sure where else she hangs out.
[04:32] <rww> I just emailed the mailing list with details of our upcoming leadership election and a call for nominations. Please read https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2014-December/002540.html and let me know if you have any questions.
[04:32] <darthrobot> Title: [[Ubuntu-US-CA] Call for Ubuntu California LoCo Team leadershipnominations]
[04:32] <rww> I'd like to encourage everyone to think about running; it's not a huge time commitment, and is a great way to get started in a leadership role in the Ubuntu community :)
[04:37] <rww> pleia2: I forget how we grab emails from LP for CIVS. Is it through the web frontend, or launchpadlib, or Canonical sysadmins?
[04:37] <rww> (if the latter, I'll ask them for that sooner rather than later)
[04:38] <nhaines> Canonical has, what, a 2 hour SLA?
[16:56] <pleia2> rww: there's a script that uses launchpadlib, grabbing the link
[16:59] <pleia2> rww: https://github.com/YokoZar/lp-election-helper
[16:59] <darthrobot> Title: [YokoZar/lp-election-helper · GitHub]


[01:57] <dunpeal> Hi. How do I switch my displays to portrait mode?
[02:21] <puff> I have a menu shortcut set up to run emacs, is there any way I can specify for emacs to arrive fully maximized?
[02:21] <puff> Er, for emacs to open/startup fully maximized?
[02:28] <xubuntu254> Howdy! New user. Is there a way to get my xfce machine to show up on the networking list on my windows 7 tower?
[02:34] <puff> xubuntu254: I have no clue how the networking list on windows 7 works... maybe it's a samba thing?
[02:35] <xubuntu254> samba? I'll lookthat up, thanks!
[02:37] <XRS1> you need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf so your machine is in the right workgroup
[02:38] <XRS1> find out what workgroup your windows machine are on and add it to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:46] <xubuntu345> Good evening!
[02:47] <XRS1> hiya
[02:52] <xubuntu345> I need some help
[02:53] <xubuntu345> with Xubuntu?!... I am a newbie!
[02:55] <pleia2> ask away
[03:01] <xubuntu345> I am running Xubuntu 13.04 64 bit, kernel 3.8... I got everything working except de wireless card! I am on a Asus U32U laptop, and the wireless card for this model is a Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter!
[03:05] <xubuntu345> If I press fn + F2 (in this model is how I turned on and off the wireless card using Windows), instead of turn on or off the wireless, in turns on or off the bleutooth...
[03:06] <xubuntu345> When I go to addicional drivers only my graffic card is listed...
[03:09] <xubuntu345> And anothe detail, when I resume from suspend, the list of wireless networks is avaiable and I can connect... But when I reboot, the problem goes back again...
[03:09] <xubuntu345> What can I do to solve this problem?
[03:10] <pleia2> I haven't seen this issue, sorry, hopefully someone else will come along :)
[03:12] <xubuntu345> my problem as far as I can undenstand is something like this > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1173681
[03:18] <xubuntu345> And just to see how thing are evolving, I used a live usb with Xubuntu 13.10 beta 1 in the same laptop, and still no wireless "out of the box" and no driver listed in the Additional  Drkv
[03:18] <xubuntu345> = Addicionsl Drivers
[12:12] <torstehu> I upgraded today from 13.04 to 13.10, and I need some hints how to debug why the sound indicator is nonfunctioning, anybody got a hint?
[12:14] <elfy> torstehu: it's a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1208204
[12:15] <elfy> torstehu: comment #5 is a workround
[12:16] <torstehu> elfy: thanks :)
[12:17] <elfy> welcome
[13:27] <haider254> Hi folks! anyone willing to lend a helping hand?
[13:28] <baizon> !ask | haider254
[13:31] <haider254> Alrighty then!  I have the following issue. I have mounted a 500gb usb drive to the location /home/user/USB . Under this location I have several directories to organise my media. I have recently noticed that for some reason the data isn't being saved on the USB drive but instead on the internal HD. I have verified this by running df -h which shows that the USB drive is practically empty even though there should be gigs worth of dat
[13:32] <GridCube> haider254, are you shure that the drive is mounted where you think it is?
[13:33] <GridCube> you might have been copying to a directory that its not the actual mount point but just before
[13:33] <haider254> This is the output from df -h regarding the drive /dev/sdc1             459G   70M  435G   1% /home/user/USB
[13:33] <GridCube> mmmhm
[13:35] <haider254> This is an example of a download directory from my download manager /home/user/USB/TV/
[13:39] <haider254> well looks like this discussion already helped a bunch. Looks like the drive wasn't correctly mounted for some reason and like you said the data was in the internal drive. Will correct the situation by changing the drives mount point and transferring the data to the USB drive. Thanks a bunch for all the help!
[13:42] <antithesis> hi
[13:43] <antithesis> I just installed xubuntu with the same home partition as before, and now xfce won't run under my user
[13:44] <antithesis> The guest account works fine, though
[13:44] <antithesis> Any ideas how I can only reset the xfce configuration in my home folder?
[13:44] <antithesis> I've already tried renaming .config/{xfce,xfce-session} to something else
[13:46] <knome> antithesis, start trying by removing ~/.cache
[13:47] <antithesis> knome: still the same
[13:47] <knome> antithesis, ~/.Xauthority* ?
[13:47] <knome> antithesis, and ~/.ICEauthority
[13:53] <antithesis> knome: it worked! Holy shit imma check out if this fixed my RHEL as well
[13:53] <knome> !language | antithesis
[13:53] <antithesis> holy smoke!
[13:53] <antithesis> thanks
[13:54] <knome> no problem
[16:12] <xubuntu776> Hi all!
[17:11] <tenguix> hey guys. anybody know where I'd find [a] source for panel plugins and [b] legible .ui (or similar) files for the xfce metapackage
[17:51] <jonhighley9000> anybody know of a site where a newbie (such as myself) can get detailed instructions on setting up transmission?
[17:52] <qwebirc29536> jonhighley9000: Transmission is already very simple. You don't need to set many things to it
[17:53] <jonhighley9000> ok.
[17:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> transmission works out of the box
[17:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> The only thing you would want to configure is the ip filter section.
[17:54] <jonhighley9000> would that require a server? if so, i have none.
[17:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> no
[17:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> just a link to a ip list.
[17:55] <jonhighley9000> Poisoned_Dragon: thank you.
[17:57] <jonhighley9000> Poisoned_Dragon: would i just need to put in my internal ip (192.168.x.x) for that?
[17:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> no
[17:57] <jonhighley9000> Poisoned_Dragon: or external ip?
[17:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> jonhighley9000, just fire up terminal, go into preferences, click the privacy tab and entre a url that has a list of IP addys you wish to ban.
[17:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> then click the update button.
[17:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'll give you a good example list url...
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> jonhighley9000, http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=bt_level1&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
[18:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> that url will block ip addys that hate p2p.
[18:00] <jonhighley9000> Poisoned_Dragon: sorry for the "twenty questions" just trying to get a handle on this that's all. btw, thank you for your patience. :)
[18:01] <jonhighley9000> ok thanks
[18:01] <jonhighley9000> :)
[18:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> np
[18:02] <jonhighley9000> Poisoned_Dragon: thanks for your help.
[18:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Happy torrenting
[18:02] <jonhighley9000> :)
[18:07] <sush24> Hi, I'm a bit new to xubuntu.. When I open something on appfinder, it launches a new instance of the app. Can I customize it such that it opens an existing instance if present?
[18:08] <GridCube> that depends on the program
[18:09] <sush24> hmm
[18:09] <sush24> i think atleast for settings, the existing instance should be opened
[18:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> some programs don't have an option to restrict to only one instance
[18:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you want the current instance instead, just alt+tab to it
[18:22] <nice-coder> Why doesn't 12.04.3 Xubuntu ISO default to newer kernel as mentioned here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ?
[18:23] <GridCube> ¿?
[18:25] <GridCube> nice-coder, as i understand it xubuntu's kernel for 12.04 still supports PAE, im not sure where this other kernels stand in this issue
[18:26] <nice-coder> 12.04.3 installation media are supposed to ship with 13.04's X.org and kernel, isn't it?
[18:27] <GridCube> no idea
[18:27] <nice-coder> read the link I posted above.
[18:28] <Unit193> You can install them anyway.
[18:28] <Unit193> lts-raring packages.
[18:28] <GridCube> well then, thats your answer, xubuntu still needs a PAE enabled kernel
[18:29] <nice-coder> got it.
[18:37] <tenguix> any answers to my ^question :|
[18:38] <tenguix> "anybody know where I'd find [a] source for panel plugins and [b] legible .ui (or similar) files for the xfce metapackage"
[18:38] <Unit193> apt-get source packagename? :P
[18:38] <Unit193> !source
[18:38] <Unit193> I'm guessing not that type of thing?
[18:40] <tenguix> Obvious enough, right? Thanks guys :)
[18:41] <nice-coder> Are there any considerable improvements in 4.10 over 4.8, from which my laptop's battery backup time can benefit from?
[18:48] <imincik> hi, has anybody experience with running xubuntu in LTSP ?
[18:49] <Unit193> None at all for me, got a question though?
[18:49] <tenguix> Just saying, I got everything I needed in the source package.
[18:49] <tenguix> You guys are the best :')
[18:49] <Unit193> tenguix: Could check on LP too, may be newer stuff.
[18:49] <Unit193> Sure3.
[18:51] <Unit193> imincik: #ltsp might be of help in case this isn't.
[18:52] <imincik> I need to use some ugly hacks to start proper xubuntu session in LTSP
[18:52] <tenguix> Unit193: apt-get barfed out a link that looked interesting.
[18:53] <tenguix> The only thing that isn't a million percent with xfce is the out-of-box ui.
[18:53] <imincik> if I set  XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS in LDM I still do not have correct xubuntu session
[18:53] <Unit193> imincik: Aha, you are Ivan Mincik, yes I can't help you then.  Sorry.
[18:53] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-September/009347.html
[18:54] <imincik> Unit193: Yes, thanks
[18:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[18:56] <tenguix> Oh, does anyone know what power management package provides suspend, etc. on the new livedisk?
[18:58] <tenguix> Cause it aint pm-tools
[18:58] <tenguix> or utils, rather.
[20:14] <Soren_> Hi everyone! :)
[20:15] <Soren_> Im thinking about installing xubuntu again. But the last time i did it, i got a completely black screen on boot. I think it was because i have ati graphic card or something.
[20:15] <Soren_> Do you guys have an page where i can find the most common issues?
[20:15] <Soren_> I really cant find anything about it
[20:15] <Janeks991____> my usb ports aren't working
[20:16] <Soren_> wow, thats not good :p
[20:16] <Janeks991____> + I feel like somebody has been doing something with this pc
[20:18] <Janeks991____> like configuration or something
[20:18] <knome> Janeks991____, for starters, could you remove your other clones from the channel. you seem to have five clients joining.
[20:18] <Janeks991____> lol really
[20:18] <Janeks991____> ?
[20:18] <Soren_> rofl
[20:18] <Janeks991____> thats like news to me
[20:19] <Janeks991____> this is some malicious xubuntu I'm using
[20:19] <knome> Janeks991____, i would doubt that, but can you first remove those clones. tell us if you need assistance with that.
[20:19] <Janeks991____> really something is wrong with this pc
[20:20] <knome> Janeks991____, "something is wrong" or "it's not working" are not useful for debugging; can you try to be a bit more elaborate on that?
[20:20] <Soren_> Would you guys recommend installing xubuntu from windows? Or should i do it from usb?
[20:21] <Janeks991____> well I can't reinstall it
[20:21] <knome> Soren_, do it from USB; if you are referring to Wubi, that shouldn't be enabled for later versions of xubuntu, and it's not a clean installation anyway; with wubi, xubuntu is installed inside windows
[20:21] <elfy> Soren_: I'd recommend from usb
[20:22] <Soren_> Okay. Great, maybe that was the issue last time then.
[20:22] <Soren_> and yes, it was wubi i was thinking about :)
[20:22] <knome> Janeks991____, is there an error message? what's the error message if there is one? if there is no error message, what happens?
[20:23] <Soren_> how about dualboot? Do you recommend grub or what?
[20:23] <Soren_> I need windows for some applications i use
[20:23] <knome> Soren_, grub should do the trick
[20:23] <knome> Soren_, be sure to check the dualboot instructions out first:
[20:23] <knome> !dualboot | Soren_
[20:23] <Soren_> Okay, is that automatic when installing xubuntu or do i need to do something specific?
[20:24] <Soren_> ah great.
[20:24] <knome> that should be pretty much automatic as long as you select the right things
[20:24] <Soren_> Anything you would recommend me before i install it?
[20:24] <knome> try to run xubuntu in a live mode, eg. boot the USB stick and select "try xubuntu" to check if everything works
[20:25] <knome> and, naturally; back up any important data
[20:26] <Soren_> Yeah ofc. Everything is backed up to my nas
[20:26] <knome> yep. you should be good to go then. good luck :)
[20:27] <Soren_> Im not used to desktop linux at all. I use linux on my server and alittle on my laptop
[20:27] <knome> laptop/desktop experience is basically the same
[20:27] <Soren_> but ive not used desktop linux very mutch :/
[20:28] <Soren_> Okay. I just remembered that i had some issues with xubuntu last time i installed it on this computer. But im not 100% sure what the issue was
[20:28] <knome> the only difference is the hardware really, and if it works, then great :)
[20:28] <knome> well if you still have it, join the channel again and we can try to debug it
[20:28] <knome> if it's a bug, we'll get that filed and it'll eventually (hopefully sooner than later) be fixed
[20:28] <Soren_> Yes.
[20:28] <knome> things with proprietary drivers are a bit complicated, but let's hope it's not about those
[20:28] <Soren_> I remember that this was a known issue for like an year ago
[20:29] <Soren_> so hopefully its fixed now
[20:29] <Soren_> It was something with the drivers, i remember that
[20:29] <Soren_> I got black screen or something like that.
[20:30] <knome> if it was with the open source drivers, the proprietary drivers might be able to fix that
[20:30] <knome> if it was with the proprietary drivers, the open source drivers might be able to fix that
[20:30] <Soren_> Yeah it was something like that.
[20:30] <knome> or later versions of the same drivers.
[20:30] <knome> if it's a year, there has been some progress on both, so it's possible that it is fixed and you won't hit it again
[20:31] <Soren_> Sounds really great
[20:31] <Soren_> I dont remember if i used wubi or not tho
[20:31] <Soren_> Hmm, maybe i shoud login to irc on my ipad meanwhile :p
[20:31] <knome> that's a good solution as well
[20:39] <Janeks991____> sudo /usr/bin/mysql_secure_installation fails
[20:39] <Janeks991____> Enter current password for root (enter for none):
[20:39] <Janeks991____> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[20:41] <Soren_> knome, do you have time for like 10 minutes?
[20:41] <Soren_> Is it ok if i pm u?
[20:44] <Janeks991____> my google is in russian
[20:45] <Janeks991____> malicious xubuntu
[20:45] <Janeks991____> how to change password of user
[20:45] <Janeks991____> via terminal?
[20:46] <Soren-ipad> Terminal passwd
[20:46] <Soren-ipad> Passwd command should be god :)
[20:46] <knome> !ru | Janeks991____
[20:46] <Janeks991____> knome what?
[20:47] <knome> Soren_, on the channel is better since others can chime in and other seeking help can possibly find the answers on the logs
[20:47] <Janeks991____> I can't understand why google thinks I want in russian\
[20:47] <knome> Janeks991____, sorry, i misunderstood.
[20:47] <Soren-ipad> Yeah true knome :)
[20:47] <Janeks991____> I can't install mysql
[20:48] <Janeks991____> google finds my problem in russian portals
[20:49] <Janeks991____> + gives me language of it
[20:49] <knome> Janeks991____, i would imagine the command you are trying to run asks for the mysql root password.
[20:51] <Soren-ipad> Im Strikning my partition right now :)
[20:51] <Soren-ipad> Shrinking
[20:52] <knome> hope it goes better than your typing ;)=
[20:52] <Soren-ipad> iPad autocorrect <3
[20:53] <elfy> it made a word up? excellent autocorrect that :p
[20:54] <knome> elfy, or is set to some other language than english ;)
[20:54] <Soren-ipad> Tepåsar.
[20:54] <Soren-ipad> Yep*
[20:54] <knome> oj då..
[20:54] <Soren-ipad> Haha shit
[20:54] <knome> !language | Soren_
[20:55] <Janeks991____> misticly
[20:55] <Soren-ipad> Sorry!
[20:55] <Janeks991____> I got it
[20:55] <Janeks991____> by 10 enter
[20:55] <knome> Soren-ipad, also watch your swedish language
[20:55] <Janeks991____> I was like shocked
[20:55] <Janeks991____> it allowed me to create new password
[20:55] <Janeks991____> for no reason
[20:55] <Soren-ipad> Yes. Ill look out for my autocorrect !
[20:56] <Janeks991____> ipad :>
[20:56] <Janeks991____> common
[20:56] <knome> !enter | Janeks991____
[20:56] <n0b> Hey, i'm new to xubuntu. how do I rice the shit out of this
[20:57] <Janeks991____> hey n0b, don't use bad words
[20:57] <Janeks991____> okay?
[20:58] <Soren_> and please try to define what you said :)
[20:58] <n0b> how do rice xubuntu
[20:58] <Unit193> Rice?
[20:58] <knome> n0b, what's your native language?
[20:59] <n0b> rice
[20:59] <Soren_> What about rice?
[20:59] <n0b> i want to rice
[20:59] <brainwash> what the rice?
[20:59] <Unit193> http://allrecipes.com/recipes/side-dish/rice/ ?
[21:00] <n0b> no
[21:00] <knome> n0b, that doesn't make sense. please be more elaborate. if you aren't good in english, you can get support in your own language, if you tell us what you'd be comfortable with
[21:01] <Janeks991____> he lives in North Korea and misses rice
[21:01] <Janeks991____> give him a break
[21:01] <knome> !offtopic | Janeks991____
[21:02] <n0b> I want to rice my xubuntu distro so that I can make it look like pic related: a.pomf.se/2Ha4.gif
[21:02] <Soren_> Oh you mean like the windows rice?
[21:02] <Soren_> Like modding the interface?
[21:03] <n0b> Well im on xubuntu, right now so im guessing ill need a wm or VM
[21:06] <n0b> ?
[21:07] <knome> n0b, what's your native language?
[21:07] <n0b> thats private, can you help me or what?
[21:08] <knome> i'm not really sure what you are after. the image seems to have several terminals open and running some scripts
[21:08] <Unit193> We're having problems understanding you.
[21:08] <Unit193> !fr
[21:10] <n0b> Okay well firstly then, how do run a .lua
[21:10] <Janeks991____> n0b oracle virtulbox google
[21:10] <Janeks991____> for virtual machine
[21:12] <n0b> so say I wanted to run windows do I want to download the one called "VirtualBox 4.2.18 for Windows hosts "
[21:13] <knome> n0b, if you have linux installed, then no.
[21:13] <knome> n0b, the OS you are running inside the virtualbox is called the guest system.
[21:13] <knome> n0b, the one that you run virtualbox on is the host system
[21:14] <knome> n0b, if you want to install virtualbox on xubuntu, install that from the repositories
[21:14] <knome> n0b, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[21:14] <n0b> sudo apt-get install virtualbox ?
[21:14] <n0b> ah you beat me too it
[21:15] <Soren_> Knome. rice is allmost like editing explorer.exe in windows
[21:15] <knome> Soren_, heh. and like changing the theme in xubuntu? :)
[21:16] <Soren_> Almost :p
[21:16] <Soren_> When you got rice, you have the start menu on right click
[21:16] <Soren_> Its like linux. I just dont remember whats its called :p
[21:17] <Janeks991____> how do I delete hamsi file manager
[21:17] <Janeks991____> I have an app can't find terminal, synaptic
[21:18] <knome> Janeks991____, how did you install it?
[21:18] <Janeks991____> don't remmeber
[21:19] <knome> Janeks991____, if you installed it from the repositories, then remove it from a package manager. if you installed it some other way, check the uninstallation notes/instructions from the source
[21:19] <Soren_> shrinking volume is so slow in windows for some reason :s
[21:21] <knome> ok, i'm off to watch a movie
[21:21] <knome> good luck everybody
[21:21] <Janeks991____> you do it with windows tools
[21:21] <Janeks991____> ?
[21:21] <Soren_> Yes, the disk manager
[21:22] <Soren_> I closed the window down because it seemed to be done
[21:23] <Janeks991____> it is mad to use them, you can loose everything suddenly :
[21:23] <Janeks991____> atleast that happened to my noobness
[21:24] <Unit193> Generally good to backup, and confirm what you're doing.
[21:24] <Soren_> but when i open the diskmanager now it just say connecting to virtual disk service
[21:25] <Soren_> Unit193: yes, it is backed up :)
[21:25] <Soren_> no problem
[21:33] <Janeks991____> google still wants me to read in russian
[21:39] <Soren_> anyone know why diskmanagement just says: "connecting to virtual disk service" ?
[21:40] <Janeks991____> microsoft wants your files?
[21:44] <felix__> hola!
[21:44] <felix__> cual es el pasword por defecto de root?
[21:45] <lderan> es!
[21:45] <lderan> mmm wrong ubottu command
[21:45] <Unit193> !es
[21:46] <lderan> ah thanks Unit193
[21:46] <Unit193> lderan: So close!
[22:48] <sp00ky> how can I get the volume icon back in the notification area?
[22:52] <mkmanifesto> Hello everyone! Would any here have documentation regarding xubuntu 12.04 and how to get MTP to work?
[22:59] <sp00ky> does anyone know how I can get my notification area back?  when I try to add it to the panel it's greyed out.
[23:00] <Unit193> What'd you do that made it go away?
[23:12] <XRS1> probably right clicked and selected remove would be my guess
[23:50] <Clownswor> Hello guys, I was hoping i could get some assitance with possibly some good links/websites to go to to learn generic stuff about ubunutu.  I have plenty of time to learn tho.
[23:58] <Azelphur> Ubuntu :P
[23:58] <Azelphur> Clownswor: in all honesty, the best way to learn is to make Ubuntu your daily driver, use it for everything possible, you'll learn pretty rapidly.


[00:23] <noizer> Hi
[00:23] <noizer> im looking into snappy these days but i want to install the boost library on snappy but how can I do that
[00:24] <noizer> anyone that can help me
[00:25] <elopio> noizer: you can use snapcraft to generate a snap that will consume the library
[00:25] <elopio> or you can use the classic mode while you are developiong something.
[00:32] <noizer> will boost then can be used of anny snap that i will deploy on it?
[01:08] <sergiusens> kyrofa, still around? I hope :-)
[01:37] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yeah hey :)
[01:43] <kyrofa> sergiusens, got your email
[01:46] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I just hacked ROS_MASTER to made up hostname and configured that in /etc/hosts
[01:46] <kyrofa> sergiusens, well, you just saved me some typing
[01:46] <sergiusens> kyrofa, just because I just read this " Great care should be taken when using localhost, as that can lead to unintended behaviors with remotely launched nodes. "
[01:47] <sergiusens> kyrofa, we should make our plugin do export VAR=http://$(hostname):####
[01:47] <sergiusens> kyrofa, lets see how it goes :-)
[01:47] <sergiusens> kyrofa, how's everything with you, all good today?
[01:48] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I'm not convinced that will change things, but if it doesn't, I bet it's still hostname-related. I have more ideas for you
[01:48] <sergiusens> kyrofa, maybe start shooting them out :-)
[01:49] <kyrofa> sergiusens, today was a bit frustrating. rpi problems. But I worked through them, things are building
[01:50] <sergiusens> kyrofa, 16.04? Did unplugging the piglow thing work btw?
[01:50] <kyrofa> sergiusens, right so, when nodes communicate they provide contact info: "here's how to reach me"
[01:50] <kyrofa> sergiusens, thing is, by default they use their hostnames
[01:50] <kyrofa> So when setting up a ROS cluster, we always make sure each computer has the others in /etc/hosts
[01:51] <kyrofa> But an alternative is to use the ROS_IP variable
[01:51] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I have /etc/hosts setup now, more so because setting up ROS_IP on the snap would be painful
[01:51] <kyrofa> Which allows you to skip using hostnames all together
[01:52] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I tried ROS_IP on the plain ubuntu box, didn't work out that well
[01:54] <kyrofa> Yeah, but snappy doesn't have a real hostname right? It's "localhost"?
[01:55] <kyrofa> So you may want to set ROS_HOSTNAME on the device as well
[01:55] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I can set one
[01:55] <sergiusens> kyrofa, using snappy config
[01:57] <kyrofa> Oh interesting. It's odd that I didn't run into this, but yeah: the surefire way to make this work is to use hostnames all the way through. dev computer has a hostname that snappy can resolve, snappy has a hostname that dev can resolve, set the ROS_MASTER_URI to localhost on snappy, set it to snappy's IP on dev
[01:57] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I'm going to have to sit down and make sure we have a config that actually works for this use-case
[01:58] <sergiusens> kyrofa, right, so when you say "ROS_MASTER_URI to localhost on snappy" I think we want it to be the hostname and not localhost
[01:58] <sergiusens> from what I saw in the wiki
[01:58] <kyrofa> sergiusens, that should be fine. I've never done it, but I can't imagine it'll hurt anything
[01:59] <kyrofa> sergiusens, how was this working for you previously? Did you change your network setup somehow?
[01:59] <sergiusens> export ROS_MASTER_URI=http://rpi2:11311
[01:59] <sergiusens> export ROS_HOSTNAME=rpi2
[01:59] <sergiusens> kyrofa, that's my setting now on the rpi2
[01:59] <kyrofa> sergiusens, if rpi2 is actually its hostname, I don't think you need ROS_HOSTNAME
[02:00] <sergiusens> ping rpi2 and ros-trusty (my hostnames) works from either side
[02:00] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I'm setting it up just in case
[02:00] <kyrofa> sergiusens, alright
[02:00] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yeah your setup sounds good. Settings on the dev machine?
[02:01] <sergiusens> kyrofa, export ROS_MASTER_URI=http://rpi2:11311
[02:01] <sergiusens> ubuntu@ros-trusty:~$ vi /etc/host
[02:01] <sergiusens> oops
[02:02] <sergiusens> just the export :-)
[02:02] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yeah fire away
[02:02] <sergiusens> rostopic and rosnode still work with that setting
[02:02] <sergiusens> kyrofa, waiting for the squash now ;-)
[02:03] <kyrofa> sergiusens, nice. And no-- I'm still waiting for the owncloud build. Now you know why this has taken me so darn long
[02:04] <sergiusens> kyrofa, hah
[02:04] <kyrofa> sergiusens, compiling mysql died several times for lack of RAM. I started using swapfiles... 1G... 2G... screw it, plugged in a flash drive, 16G swapfile
[02:04] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I've been considering scalingstack
[02:05] <kyrofa> sergiusens, do they have ARM?
[02:05] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I just learned about the alpha launchpad .snap builds, too
[02:05] <kyrofa> sergiusens, I asked to get in on that
[02:05] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I probably got the name wrong though
[02:06] <sergiusens> it is arm exclusive
[02:07] <kyrofa> Oh... hmm yeah that doesn't seem arm exclusive
[02:08] <kyrofa> 96%...
[02:08] <sergiusens> kyrofa, working!
[02:08] <kyrofa> sergiusens, yes!
[02:08] <sergiusens> kyrofa, going downstairs for a bit
[02:08] <kyrofa> sergiusens, okay :)
[02:09] <sergiusens> kyrofa, I've documented the recipe, so I'll share later ;-)
[02:09] <kyrofa> sergiusens, sounds good
[02:14] <kyrofa> sergiusens, my cell# is in the directory if you need me and I'm not around
[02:23] <kyrofa> 100%!
[06:44] <snappy-user> kyrofa hello I am just testing :-)
[08:15] <fgimenez> good morning
[08:58] <opmodoro> good morning, in the webchat snapcraft example I see an `apps` directive usage, but in the source there is no mention about it. Where is the magic? :)  Thanks
[09:01] <elopio> pindonga: beuno: I'm dangerously close to get the xenial tests back to green. static, unit, integration and coveralls are working.
[09:01] <elopio> Just need to figure out why the examples started to fail yesterday. So ETA, one more day.
[09:21] <LefterisJP> guys for a user providing some extra configuration to a framework is there any standard way? What I can imagine is having a config file in the framework's writable location and then have the wrapper script of the service read that config file to see what args to use when launching the service.
[09:21] <LefterisJP> Then an extra binary to query/edit the config for the framework
[09:33] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Hugging Day! 😃
[09:50] <joeblew99> basic question. All applications in ubuntu core snappy run inside LXD. So can it run gui apps like Google chrome ?
[12:02] <kyrofa> Good morning
[12:09] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, might be a use for snappy config
[12:09] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/config-command/
[12:10] <kyrofa> joeblew99, that's not correct-- they don't run inside an LXD
[12:11] <kyrofa> joeblew99, however, supporting things like .desktop files is work that ongoing
[12:11] <kyrofa> joeblew99, so yes, eventually, but only in betas right now
[12:11] <kyrofa> joeblew99, https://rainveiltech.com/posts/prototype-a-gui-friendly-snappy
[12:19] <LefterisJP> kyrofa: looks interesting. So there should be a binary inside the app that can read and output yaml syntax. But seems there is no way to set specific config option from the CLI, just provide a new yaml file to replace the old one.
[12:21] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, yeah kinda. ogra_ may be your best resource here-- I know for certain he's used this. I'm not sure of its capabilities
[12:24] <LefterisJP> all right will wait for his input then
[12:25] <LefterisJP> one more question. I have been trying to turn a snappified directory project to a snapcraft project. How can I make a snapcraft, part of recipe for: 1) Clone repository 2)run specific commands on the repo to produce binaries 3) copy these binaries to the staging area.
[12:26] <LefterisJP> Also the various profiles and other data that go in the meta/ directory for a snappified directory app, how can they be included when creating a snap from snapcraft?
[12:27] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, alright let me make sure I understand
[12:28] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, you have a project with some sort of build system (even if it's just scripts). You want snapcraft to clone that project, run the build system, and include the binaries in the .snap?
[12:28] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, that sounds exactly like what snapcraft does. Am I missing something?
[12:29] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, but your build scripts also produce the meta/ stuff?
[12:30] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, sorry... I'm feeling a little dense this morning :P
[12:30]  * kyrofa pours his coffee
[12:34] <LefterisJP> hehe so let's see
[12:35] <LefterisJP> I currently have 1 project which is bassically a readymade directory on which I snappy build
[12:35] <LefterisJP> But I already have the binaries built and ready under bin/
[12:35] <kyrofa> Okay, with you so far. And you don't use snapcraft because... cross compiling?
[12:35] <LefterisJP> yes
[12:35] <kyrofa> Okay, continue
[12:36] <LefterisJP> But if the user has the appropriate libraries, I can actually make it cross-compilable, since this is a go-project and the developers have made a very handy makefile (which resorts to go build eventually)
[12:36] <LefterisJP> so I just want to clone the repo and run make with 2 different arguments
[12:36] <LefterisJP> and then take the 2 produced binaries
[12:37] <LefterisJP> and from then an on continue as I would with a normal snappy build
[12:37] <kyrofa> Hmm, and are these "appropriate libraries" available in the ubuntu repos for a given arch? Say amd64 or whatever you're running on
[12:39] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, or are they other things you need to clone and build?
[12:39] <LefterisJP> no they are there
[12:39] <LefterisJP> only need to clone this one repo
[12:39] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, ahh.... you just might be able to get this to work
[12:39] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, okay. Are these libs build-time dependencies then, not run-time?
[12:41] <LefterisJP> yes, since it's go everything is statically linked. I already do this manually, and have it working on a Raspberry Pi. Just wanted to automate it with snapcraft
[12:41] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, excellent. Automation is good
[12:43] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, can you add a target to the repo's makefile to run both make commands that you need?
[12:44] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, or is this a third-part repo you're cloning?
[12:45] <LefterisJP> I don't think this is an option
[12:45] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, alright, you need to do a bit more work then
[12:45] <LefterisJP> I saw there is a make plugin, but that seems to run only make
[12:45] <LefterisJP> (no args)
[12:46] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, with my limited understanding of what you're doing, I'd use `build-packages` to pull in those libs, and use the `make` plugin with `source: src` and in the src folder create a Makefile to clone your source and run the necessary commands
[12:47] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, essentially use the Makefile as a script
[12:47] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, keep in mind that the only targets the `make` plugin uses is `all` and `install`
[12:48] <kyrofa> And the `install` target is called with DESTDIR
[12:48] <LefterisJP> hmm is there a way to use a "script" plugin? Just write a script and call it as part of the preparation of building the snap?
[12:49] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, not included with snapcraft. But did you know you can actually include your own plugin in-tree?
[12:49] <kyrofa> And use it in the snapcraft.yaml?
[12:49] <LefterisJP> nope. That's funny though. There are so many plugins, I would expect one for a simple script to exist.
[12:50] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, I just use the `make` plugin when I want a simple script. How would you expect snapcraft to tell the script where to put stuff?
[12:51] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, all the other plugins have established ways to do that (make, autotools, cmake, go)
[12:51] <LefterisJP> call it with an argument which would be interpreted as a path I suppose
[12:52] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, yeah, that might be a useful addition. Feel like logging a bug?
[12:53] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, regarding custom plugins: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/blob/master/docs/plugins.md
[12:53] <LefterisJP> Sure, is it https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft?
[12:53] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, that's the src, but bugs are tracked here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/
[12:53] <LefterisJP> thanks for the link, will check it out right now.
[12:55] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, if you come up with a generic script plugin that you like feel free to propose it to snapcraft
[12:56] <LefterisJP> Would love to. So that would be as a Github PR?
[12:58] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, indeed. Bugs are tracked at LP, everything else on github
[13:01] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, check out the HACKING.md as well as the CONTRIBUTION.md
[13:02] <kyrofa> LefterisJP, it'll need some test coverage as well (see the other plugins for examples)
[13:04] <LefterisJP> noted, thank you. If I come up with something good in time I will send it back upstream.
[14:31] <elopio> kyrofa: there seems to be a problem in hangouts. Could you get in the call?
[14:32] <kyrofa> elopio, google has been annoying lately
[14:33] <kyrofa> elopio, want to try again later?
[14:34] <elopio> kyrofa: what if we try https://meet.jit.si/snapcraft ?
[14:34] <elopio> seems to work here.
[14:40] <kyrofa> Agh, elopio sorry got distracted. I'll be right there
[14:44] <kyrofa> elopio, that doesn't seem to be working for me either...
[14:46] <elopio> kyrofa: :) want to stand up here?
[14:46] <kyrofa> elopio, works for me!
[14:47] <kyrofa> elopio, your turn first
[14:49] <elopio> DONE: update integration tests working on snappy rpi2, coveralls reporting working again from travis lxd, attended the mqtt class and got the mosquito server and client working on rpi2 classic.
[14:49] <elopio> TODO: understand the examples errors in jenkins (when I put prints they stop raising an exception :@), make a snapcraft for mosquitto, more work on the jenkins snapcraft jobs.
[14:49] <elopio> kyrofa: your turn.
[14:49] <kyrofa> Awesome
[14:53] <kyrofa> DONE: Built owncloud package for amd64 and uploaded to store.
[14:53] <kyrofa> DONE build owncloud package for armhf but then realized I couldn't upload to the store
[14:53] <kyrofa> TODO: Removing amd64 version from the store, uploading new armhf version to replace it
[14:54] <kyrofa> TODO: Got emailed several papercut bugs last night. Turning them into real bugs and fixing the low-hanging fruit
[14:54] <kyrofa> elopio, ^^
[14:55] <elopio> thanks.
[15:16] <elopio> @fgimenez I think I need to go and pick up the car of a friend that's traveling, soon. So I might miss our standup.
[15:16] <nothal> elopio: No such command!
[15:16] <elopio> anything you would like to discuss today?
[15:16] <elopio> ahh, telegram is affecting me.
[15:17] <fgimenez> elopio, ok :) i have a couple of PRs and another one is coming, no rush at all anyway
[15:19] <elopio> fgimenez: I'll get to them soon.
[15:19] <fgimenez> elopio, thx also there was an error in the integration tests yesterday caused by with https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy/blob/master/integration-tests/tests/autoupdate-msg_test.go#L53, could you take a look? if we can't rewrite it maybe it should be dropped, let me know what do you think
[15:19] <elopio> fgimenez: from my side, I had to trick travis using the same path in the container and in the host. Now the coveralls works again.
[15:20] <elopio> I tried everything I could think about to send the report from the container, and got every possible error.
[15:20] <fgimenez> elopio, great, it's working so \o/
[15:21] <elopio> fgimenez: well, now the problem are the examples tests. They raise and exception, but when I try to print the stderr, it's not raised.
[15:21] <elopio> damn it with travis.
[15:22] <fgimenez> elopio, let me know if i can be of any help
[15:22] <elopio> fgimenez: about that test, I would prefer to discuss with mvo about possible solutions. It was one of the first tests added after a UI change, so I wouldn't like to remove it.
[15:22] <elopio> I'm fond of it :)
[15:22] <elopio> fgimenez: is it failing often, or was it just one time weirness?
[15:22] <elopio> I can put it in a loop.
[15:23] <fgimenez> elopio, only once in a lot of executions
[15:26] <elopio> this is a great use for jenkins.
[15:26] <elopio> just loop running one test to get more info. I'll try to make the job soon, but I still owe a couple of things from yesterday.
[15:27] <elopio> like the dockers in the hub. I'll finish that first.
[15:27] <mvo> elopio: we make it a long operation by creating a fake os update first
[15:27] <mvo> elopio: well, longer - and also throttle the download of the fakestore
[15:28] <elopio> ahh, that's right. Now the update takes a lot less.
[15:28] <elopio> ok, going for the car. bbs.
[15:39] <elopio> that was a lot faster than what I thought.
[15:40] <elopio> and now I have a car for the rest of the week. No idea what to do with it, though.
[15:41] <kyrofa> elopio, hahaha
[16:02] <elopio> kyrofa: can you give me a hand debugging this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/14590836/
[16:02] <elopio> how can I see what causes make to exit != 0? is there a verbose flag or something?
[16:03] <kyrofa> elopio, that's the most unhelpful error message I've ever seen :P
[16:05] <mvo> jdstrand: thanks for your work on the squashfs-tools \o/
[16:05] <kyrofa> elopio, with cmake you can to VERBOSE=1
[16:05] <kyrofa> elopio, but the actual error should be above what you pasted...
[16:07] <jdstrand> mvo: sure. Now I need to see about different archs. I see some code about little endian vs big
[16:08] <mvo> jdstrand: iirc its nowdays (v4) all one endianess, that might be from the old v2 or v3 squashfs format. but mind you, I'm not an expert :)
[16:08] <jdstrand> mvo: oh, btw, kgunn needed a new os snap for the latest ubuntu-core-security when you have a chance. I don't hink he is blocked on it per se (perhaps he can comment)
[16:08] <jdstrand> mvo: we'll see! :)
[16:08] <mvo> jdstrand: sure, happy to update. amd64?
[16:08] <jdstrand> I think so
[16:08] <jdstrand> kgunn: ^ ?
[16:08] <mvo> ta
[16:08] <kyrofa> elopio, can I see more of that log?
[16:08] <kyrofa> elopio, is that in travis somewhere?
[16:09] <elopio> kyrofa: I tought python was swallowing the stderr, but it seems it just doesn't print anything.
[16:09] <elopio> ubuntu@xenial:/home/elopio/build/snapcraft/examples/ros/parts/catkin-tutorials/build/build_isolated/beginner_tutorials$ VERBOSE=1 make -j2 -l2 || echo $?
[16:09] <elopio> 139
[16:09] <elopio> kyrofa: yes, one second.
[16:10] <elopio> kyrofa: https://travis-ci.org/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/jobs/103794957
[16:10] <elopio> search for Failed to process package 'beginner_tutorials'
[16:15] <kyrofa> elopio, wow, that really is all it gave you
[16:15] <kyrofa> elopio, I have no idea what happened there. Yeah, try the verbose
[16:17] <elopio> kyrofa: but did you see my line with verbose above? It exits with 139, but prints nothing.
[16:17] <kyrofa> elopio, ...
[16:20] <kyrofa> elopio, I'm honestly clueless. I've never seen that
[16:20] <kyrofa> elopio, what are you testing here?
[16:21] <kyrofa> elopio, the only time I've seen anything similar was yesterday, when make was segfaulting for me
[16:21] <elopio> that's what I hate about this. I'm sure I saw it before, at some time. But I've seen so many travis errors this days that I'm confused.
[16:21] <elopio> kyrofa: I'm trying ot build from a xenial lxd.
[16:22] <elopio> at least now I can reproduce it on my local xenial lxd, so I don't have to wait for travis' output.
[16:22] <kyrofa> elopio, I'm so tired of ROS barfing on xenial
[16:23] <elopio> kyrofa: oh, but there are 7 tests failing with the same.
[16:23] <elopio> sorry, I picked you on ros because I thought you would magically tell me the solution :)
[16:23] <kgunn> mvo: jdstrand yep, amd64
[16:23] <kyrofa> elopio, hmm. You can reproduce on xenial though? Are they all `make` failures?
[16:24] <elopio> kyrofa: I'm trying that, but the costa rican archive is out of sync. So trying another mirror and goes even slower...
[16:24] <elopio> will know soon.
[16:25] <kyrofa> elopio, AH! mvo
[16:25] <kyrofa> elopio, mvo just installed make on my xenial lxc.  That's so upstream I don't even know where I'd log such a bug
[16:26] <elopio> oh come on, now also the main archive gives a hash mismatch.
[16:27] <elopio> kyrofa: what command are you running to get the segfault?
[16:27] <kyrofa> elopio, make -v :P
[16:27] <kyrofa> elopio, everything seems to segfault except make -h
[16:27] <elopio> oh, wow.
[16:28] <kyrofa> Yeah, terrible
[16:28] <elopio> it segfaults when I run it as root, but when I run it as user it doesn't say anything.
[16:28] <elopio> pindonga: I give up. Even make is failing on me.
[16:28] <kyrofa> elopio, yeah I went back to good-old trusty
[16:28] <kyrofa> trusty trusty
[16:28] <pindonga> elopio, :(
[16:29] <elopio> kyrofa: so, this happens only on xenial lxc, right? on your real xenial machine it works?
[16:29] <kyrofa> elopio, I fist experienced in on my rpi2 in classic, so no
[16:29] <kyrofa> Well wait
[16:29] <kyrofa> That's actually lxc too
[16:29] <kyrofa> right?
[16:30] <kyrofa> mvo, ^^
[16:30] <kyrofa> elopio, I don't actually have a xenial machine
[16:30] <mvo> kyrofa: not lxc, more like a chroot, it using unshare lightly but mostly a chroot
[16:40] <elopio> kyrofa: same version in real machine and in container. 4.1-2. It only fails in the container.
[16:41] <kyrofa> elopio, very interesting!
[16:45] <mvo> kgunn: I put an updated ubuntu-core snap into the edge channel, once I tested it I will promote to the other channels (I guess you will still get it because all images default to edge iirc currently)
[16:45] <kgunn> mvo: ta
[16:50] <mvo> yw
[16:56] <elopio> it works from gdb.
[16:56] <elopio> mvo: any idea who to ping about this make segfault?
[17:00] <elopio> https://paste.ubuntu.com/14591130/
[17:30] <kyrofa> elopio, easy review when you have a minute: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/246
[17:31] <elopio> kyrofa: was the change in the indentation on purpose?
[17:32] <kyrofa> elopio, yeah, it's not valid markdown
[17:32] <kyrofa> elopio, and we have another PR that wants it done but it hasn't been updated in a while
[17:32] <kyrofa> elopio, so I figured I'd just tackle it here
[17:32] <elopio> so it was a trap!
[17:33] <elopio> simple, but I have to read it all :)
[17:33] <kyrofa> elopio, yeah, stupid git
[17:34] <elopio> don't worry, I'm on it.
[17:34] <kyrofa> elopio, if you trust me, I promise all I added was the build-packages
[17:35] <elopio> kyrofa: ok, I will trust you but just because I'm hungry ;)
[17:35] <kyrofa> elopio, mmm
[18:28] <mvo> elopio: did you got an anser already? do you have some more info? so it happens on amd64 in a lxc xenial env, right?
[18:32] <Lefteris`> kyrofa: I managed to automate it as I had planned with a nice local plugin for snapcraft.
[18:32] <Lefteris`> kyrofa: What does not work now is the framework's policy
[18:33] <Lefteris`> kyrofa: Before I had the framework policy in meta/
[18:34] <kyrofa> Lefteris`, you'll need to specify it in the snapcraft.yaml. Did you?
[18:34] <Lefteris`> same level as package.yaml, but now with snapcraft how do I do it?
[18:34] <Lefteris`> (no I did not write anything in snapcraft)
[18:36] <Lefteris`> in short everything I had in meta/ when I snapify a directory ... where should it be if I use snapcraft?
[18:41] <enoch85> kyrofa, here?
[18:41] <kyrofa> enoch85, yessir!
[18:44] <Lefteris`> hmm there is an integration test having `framework-policy: dir` inside a snapcraft yaml
[18:44] <Lefteris`> will go with that :)
[19:59] <elopio> mvo: sorry, late reply. I reported this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/make-dfsg/+bug/1536727
[20:06] <kyrofa> elopio, even easier than the last one: https://github.com/ubuntu-core/snapcraft/pull/248/files
[20:18] <kgunn> mvo: hmm, just pulled an image using core rolling --oem=generic-amd64/stable --channel edge...and system-image-cli -i shows it's from jan 12, expected?
[20:18] <kgunn> thot it might be updating soon..
[20:22] <mvo> kgunn: yes, we stopped updating using system image, please use http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/ for now, unfortuantely the ubuntu-device-flash in xenial is not updated there is a branch review pending still
[20:23] <kgunn> np, thanks mvo
[20:23] <mvo> kgunn: here is a bit of the background https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/snappy-devel/2016-January/001400.html
[21:17] <circ-user-edG3L> hi
[21:17] <circ-user-edG3L> how do i download xenial version of snappy?
[21:17] <circ-user-edG3L> or is that not available currently?
[21:17] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, use http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/
[21:18] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: k thx
[21:18] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: are you at the ubucon?
[21:18] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, note that it's under heavily development, though
[21:18] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, unfortunately no. Too close to having a baby to leave!
[21:18] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: oh.  congratulations!.
[21:18] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, haha, thanks
[21:19] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa:  is mir spec for xenial ready yet? or still being modified?... is there a timeline for mir/xmir ?
[21:19] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, kgunn is your man there
[21:19] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: k thx
[21:19] <dbuellough> hello
[21:20] <circ-user-edG3L> kgunn: is mir spec for xenial ready yet? or still being modified?... is there a timeline for mir/xmir ?
[21:20] <circ-user-edG3L> dbuellough: hi
[21:23] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, did you just see sergio and manik's talk?
[21:23] <ogra_> still running :)
[21:23] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: im watching it now
[21:23] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, the live stream is broken :(
[21:23] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C8T4Mp9aSM
[21:23] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: it works
[21:24] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, terrible audio here
[21:25] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: :{
[21:25] <enoch85> I can confirm that audio is bad
[21:33] <camako> Trying to publish a snap on the store. It fails with "ERROR: manifest malformed: hooks/mir-server is empty...". How do I fix this?
[21:33] <camako> My snap -->  https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/share/4255e10a7324e99961bb6a15b0c4368692e318870c3e527339100387379a08c96802720a73162eabafce/
[21:42] <kgunn> circ-user-edG3L: i assume you're asking here so specific to snappy?
[21:43] <kgunn> we have it working, just worked thru sec profiles for mir recently with the sec team...so waiting for those to flow thru
[21:50] <circ-user-edG3L> kgunn: yes.
[21:52] <circ-user-edG3L> kgunn: ok.  so spec is finalized?
[21:55] <circ-user-edG3L> kgunn: or still tbd?
[21:55] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: I recorded the demonstration if you want to see it
[21:57] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, yes please
[21:59] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: can i have your email address to send?
[21:59] <circ-user-edG3L> kyrofa: im uploading to youtube
[22:01] <kyrofa> circ-user-edG3L, just paste the url here if you don't mind, I'm sure other people would like to watch as well
[23:48] <aatchison> hello!
[23:49] <sergiusens> aatchison, http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/
[23:50] <sergiusens> utlemming, hey, I'm getting reports from aatchison that the vagrant images don't work. Are you still maintaining those?
[23:51] <utlemming> sergiusens: interesting...
[23:51] <utlemming> sergiusens: yup, looking
[23:52] <sergiusens> utlemming, also, out of the blue, do we have rolling/all snaps images for vagrant?
[23:53] <utlemming> sergiusens: I haven't checked since last week, but if that is the default for u-d-f, then yes
[23:53] <aatchison> I'll paste bin the results
[23:53] <sergiusens> utlemming, oh, it's not; it needs a non backwards compatible u-d-f
[23:54] <utlemming> sergiusens: then we do not
[23:55] <aatchison> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14593617/
[23:55] <sergiusens> utlemming, can we use a different u-d-f to set that up? Calling a different image creator?
[23:58] <utlemming> aatchison: windows/mac?
[23:58] <utlemming> sergiusens: can you send me the instructions on that? Better yet, file me a bug with the instructions and I can try to get to it.
[23:58] <aatchison> utlemming, Ubuntu 15.10
[23:59] <aatchison> ok
[23:59] <utlemming> aatchison: where did you procure your version of vagrant....this looks like a bug in Vagrant/Ruby, not in the image itself.
[23:59] <utlemming> aatchison: double checking


[03:40] <yofel> is it just me or is ftp upload to ppa broken? ([Errno 111] Connection refused)
[03:45] <mwhudson> yofel: it's probably broken
[04:53] <days_of_ruin> Uploading to ppa (via ftp to ppa.launchpad.net):
[04:53] <days_of_ruin> Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused
[04:54] <renpytom> Can anyone here help me with setting up translations for my project?
[04:56] <wgrant> days_of_ruin: Indeed, something is broken. Everybody who can fix it should be asleep at the moment, so you might have to wait a couple of hours.
[04:56] <wgrant> renpytom: Have you had a look at https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject?
[04:57] <renpytom> Yes.
[04:57] <renpytom> I think I have successfully uploaded a translation template.
[04:57] <Pici> a/22
[04:57] <renpytom> But I don't seem to be able to create a translation of it.
[04:58] <wgrant> I've very little experience with Launchpad Translations, I'm afraid. You might have to poke around help.launchpad.net, or hope that somebody more knowledgable comes along.
[04:59]  * wgrant disappears for lunch.
[05:09] <renpytom> Ah, figured it out. You can't translate into American English.
[06:25] <wgrant> cprov: Morning. Can you fix germanium?
[07:38] <wgrant> kfogel: Thanks for clarifying the open sourcing date changes.
[07:40] <kfogel> wgrant: you're welcome.  It was partly your asking that prompted that.
[07:56] <deitarion> How do I fix the series timeline on https://launchpad.net/unball so that the 0.2-legacy branch descends from the 0.2.10 release rather than trunk's starting point?
[07:59] <wgrant> deitarion: You can't. While the timelines will be changing soon in a way that might make that irrelevant, I don't think you're using the Launchpad series functionality how it was intended.
[08:00] <deitarion> ?
[08:00] <wgrant> deitarion: See https://launchpad.net/bzr for what I think is a pretty good model.
[08:00] <wgrant> All the 1.16.x releases are on the 1.16 series.
[08:01] <deitarion> Ahh. One sec while I wait for Firefox to run crash recovery and then I'll see about reorganizing it that way.
[08:01] <wgrant> Lots of different projects use series very differently. I'm not sure anybody knows which is the perfect way.
[08:02] <deitarion> (It seems reasonable to me. 0.1 was back when I was just forking a kde-look script. 0.2 was when it was all-new code. 0.3 (soon to be pushed) is the Python rewrite to add proper robustness, flexibility, and portability)
[08:03] <wgrant> Right. It also makes sense with regard to Launchpad's bug targetting features. I can target a bug in my project to the 0.2 series, to say that it should be fixed in 0.2.x at some point.
[08:03] <wgrant> if you have all your normal releases on trunk, you can't really do that.
[08:06] <deitarion> All things considered, I suspect I'll end up releasing on trunk as usual (I'm a "develop with unit tests, keep trunk stable" kind of guy) and then re-locating everything to a new branch every time I bump the minor version number.
[08:08] <deitarion> ...assuming I don't just move to GitHub. I'm getting more and more disillusioned with bzr's "flexibility over convenience" approach to branching.
[08:08] <wgrant> What don't you like about bzr's model?
[08:09] <deitarion> Oh, I also have grown very fond of git's semantics for the commit command.
[08:09] <wgrant> Which bit? That it will only commit what's in the index or whatever they call it today?
[08:10] <deitarion> wgrant: Yeah. I tend to work on several ideas at once and then have to cherry-pick what to commit. Git's commit is the most comfortable way I've found for that so far.
[08:11] <wgrant> deitarion: I much prefer bzr shelve + commit to git's model.
[08:11] <deitarion> Different strokes for different folks.
[08:11] <wgrant> Yep.
[08:12] <wgrant> What is your problem with bzr's branches?
[08:12] <deitarion> Partly, last I checked, it seemed the only option was folder-based branching and it took extra work (And extra folder tree depth) to share a repo between several branches.
[08:13] <deitarion> (I run nightly incremental backups of my home directory, so I try to be space-efficient about the folders not on the exclude list)
[08:14] <wgrant> Shared repos are easy to set up, and it's possible to do away with the extra directory level. But I don't see a problem with the extra level, as I normally keep a project's branches together anyway.
[08:14] <deitarion> wgrant: The extra level is surprisingly annoying to me.
[08:15] <deitarion> I suppose my problem with bzr as compared to git can be summed up in my favorite quote by Michaelangelo: Trifles make perfection and perfection is not trifle
[08:16] <deitarion> A lot of little things that, together, drive me nuts.
[08:16] <deitarion> (The only things I haven't switched to git already are the two projects hosted on launchpad)
[08:17] <wgrant> It's quite possible to set up a
[08:17] <wgrant> Gah.
[08:17] <wgrant> ... to set up a git-like repo that has multiple branches with a single working copy. But it's slightly awkward.
[08:18] <deitarion> I know. That's what I did with every one of my bzr projects.
[08:18] <deitarion> "slightly" is too much.
[08:19] <wgrant> It would be nice if both were supported equally. I prefer branch-per-directory to git's model.
[08:19] <deitarion> I'm the kind of perfectionist, convenience-obsessed guy who'd be a diehard mac-head if I weren't also bordering on RMS-level FOSS obsession.
[08:21] <deitarion> (I'm more a UI designer who knows how to program and happens to be obsessed with unit tests than a traditional programmer)
[08:22] <deitarion> Now that I've finally got something which work for keeping my distraction-based procrastination at bay, I'm hard at work polishing up and completing all my unfinished convenience tools. ( http://ssokolow.github.com/timeclock/ in case you're curious. I haven't made a release tarball yet because I'm still working on the icon. )
[08:22] <deitarion> s/which work /which works /
[08:52] <goshawk> hi, i receive this error when i try to upload to ppa
[08:52] <goshawk> Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused
[08:52] <goshawk> and i'm sure it worked before
[08:52] <goshawk> does anyone know why?
[08:58] <wgrant> goshawk: Something's broken on the server.
[08:58] <goshawk> ok
[09:15] <kub1b> Help with a gpg error when trying to apt-get the KUbuntu bugfixes for 4.2.4, via apt-get, after addig the launchpad line in apt sources.list - thanks.  I get this gpg error - Ive never had to add gpg keys before - how do i get this sig verified? :
[09:15] <kub1b> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[09:22] <wgrant> kub1b: You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing" on the PPA page. Down the bottom of that, there are instructions.
[09:27] <kub1b> wgrant: what page has that link you refer to?
[09:28] <wgrant> kub1b: One with a URL of the form https://launchpad.net/~<username>/+archive/<ppaname>
[09:28] <wgrant> kub1b: What was the URL you put in your sources.list?
[09:36] <kub1b> wgrant: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main  , from the page:  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4
[09:37] <kub1b> wgrant: what does that indicate to you, that I should do?
[09:37] <wgrant> kub1b: Go to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[09:38] <wgrant> kub1b: There you will find the link.
[09:38] <kub1b> wgrant: thanks
[09:38] <wgrant> (there's a bug filed that the ppa.launchpad.net page should link to the launchpad.net page)
[09:39] <kub1b> wgrant:  when i go to that page i get this error in firefox:  n error occurred during a connection to launchpad.net.  SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length.  (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[09:39] <wgrant> kub1b: Sounds like Firefox is being stupid... tried refreshing?
[09:39] <kub1b> wgrant:  The page you are trying to view can not be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.      * Please contact the web site owners to inform them of this problem.
[09:40] <kub1b> wgrant: same err after both refreshing & ¨try again¨ in firefox.
[09:40] <wgrant> kub1b: Did you go to the exact URL I specified?
[09:40] <kub1b> wgrant: yes
[09:41] <kub1b> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[09:42] <kub1b> wgrant: er, i thing:  i´m connecting throught a cell phone wireless connection,
[09:42] <wgrant> kub1b: Firefox is indicating that you're not speaking to an SSL server, but Launchpad is certainly fine.
[09:42] <wgrant> kub1b: Can you just go to https://launchpad.net/?
[09:43] <kub1b> metropcs, Iǘe used this for years, but maybe on this new box, with a fresh kubuntu 904 for amd 64, perhaps i don have some ssh firefox thing needed installed yet?
[09:43] <wgrant> No, no, SSL has been core to web browsers for more than a decade now.
[09:43] <wgrant> I wonder if your connection is dodgy.
[09:44] <kub1b> goint to that url gets the same error.
[09:44] <kub1b> i know the isp has a firewall,
[09:44] <kub1b> but i do know iǘe gotten to secure pages (https)  on my other computer before.
[09:44] <wgrant> Can you go to some other HTTPS site?
[09:45] <kub1b> suggest one, please, & Iĺl try
[09:46] <Nafallo> kub1b: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:46] <kub1b> wgrant:   Iḿ pulling up this page fine:  https://www.bankofamerica.com/Control.do?page=corp_bofacom
[09:46] <wgrant> kub1b: How about https://edge.launchpad.net/?
[09:46] <kub1b> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ is coming up fine too
[09:47] <kub1b> https://edge.launchpad.net/? is also coming in fine
[09:47] <kub1b> wgrant: thoughts?
[09:48] <wgrant> kub1b: OK. That's really really strange. But go to https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa
[09:48] <wgrant> I'd try restarting Firefox, if that doesn't work.
[09:48] <kub1b> wgrant: are yo a sysadmin for launchpad, or a mere user?,
[09:48] <kub1b> ie, do you have ability to fix stuff on the launchpad server?
[09:49] <wgrant> kub1b: I'm just a user.
[09:49] <kub1b> https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa  works
[09:49] <wgrant> I'm pretty sure that Launchpad isn't broken.
[09:49] <wgrant> As I can use it fine.
[09:49] <wgrant> kub1b: OK. Follow the instructions. Then maybe restart Firefox and see if launchpad.net works.
[09:52] <kub1b> wgrant: er, follow _which_ instructions? the one at the https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa  ?  Iǘe already added the deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main  line to sources.list.  Iḿ getting an error from apt-get dist-upgrade about unable to verify the gpg key for packages from there.
[09:52] <kub1b> wgrant: thoughts?
[09:54] <kub1b> Nafallo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com works fine.  thoughts?
[09:55] <wgrant> kub1b: Sorry, on a very laggy connection here. You'll see a link labeled "Read about installing".
[09:55] <wgrant> That has a section on adding the key.
[09:56] <kub1b> wgrant: thanks, Iḿ tryig to pull that link up now. :)
[10:48] <goshawk> wgrant: do you know if someone is working on the ppa upload problem?
[11:15] <cprov> wgrant: poppy restarted.
[11:15] <wgrant> cprov: Thanks.
[11:15] <wgrant> goshawk: Should work now.
[11:16] <goshawk> nope
[11:16] <goshawk> same error
[11:16] <goshawk> Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused
[11:16] <wgrant> Indeed. cprov?
[11:17] <cprov> wgrant: same here too.
[11:22] <wgrant> cprov: But poppy's running?
[11:23] <cprov> wgrant: no, it's not.
[11:23] <wgrant> Ah, good.
[11:23] <wgrant> Otherwise I would be scared.
[11:23] <ajmitch> wgrant: why would that be scary?
[11:24] <wgrant> ajmitch: Worse to have a daemon running but broken like that than not running at all, I think...
[11:24] <ajmitch> Worrying, but probably not scary
[11:25] <ajmitch> Scary would be if it was working without any daemon running
[11:25] <goshawk> ahhahah
[11:25] <wgrant> ajmitch: True.
[11:34] <cprov> wgrant: try now please.
[11:35] <goshawk> works
[11:35] <goshawk> well done :)
[11:35] <goshawk> thanks cprov
[11:35] <wgrant> Indeed. Thanks cprov.
[11:35] <goshawk> thanks welterde
[11:35] <goshawk> thanks wgrant
[11:35] <goshawk> cprov: can we know what was the problem or is it too long to tell?
[11:36] <yofel> thanks cprov :)
[11:36] <cprov> goshawk: it starts with a recurrent problem related with the server using asyncore (causing it to die from time to time)
[11:37] <goshawk> oki
[11:37] <goshawk> thx
[12:14] <Hamaryns> Hi all
[12:14] <Hamaryns> I recently migrated my project to LP, thanks to all that helped.
[12:15] <Hamaryns> Now I want to upload the code for the website as well.  Is there a standard way to do this, or should I just create a new branch, or maybe subfolder in the trunk?
[12:16] <wgrant> Hamaryns: I wouldn't put it in trunk. I've just created a separate branch in the past.
[12:16] <Hamaryns> ok, so it’s sort of: do as you like with what’s there, there is no separate functionality for this
[12:17] <wgrant> Right.
[12:17] <wgrant> There's no good way to do it.
[12:26] <Hamaryns> lol
[12:26] <Hamaryns> but then, there’s probably no bad way either :-)
[12:27] <Hamaryns> If you look around, you see that a lot of projects have it as some subdirectory of their main repository.
[12:27] <Hamaryns> E.g. in the Jakarta projects
[12:27] <Hamaryns> fine, thanks
[12:27] <wgrant> That's not a good idea.
[12:28] <wgrant> It's not part of your project, so why is it there?
[12:28] <Hamaryns> it is part of the project, isn’t it?  You could call it a subproject
[12:28] <Hamaryns> But you’re right, a separate branch makes more sense and that’s what I’ll do
[12:28] <wgrant> My users don't need it.
[12:28] <Hamaryns> right
[12:56] <ajmitch> are appservers going down again?
[12:56] <ajmitch> either that or I'm just unlucky & hit a temporary problem
[13:45] <cyberixae> Launchpad front page shows brown boxes for featured projects, instead of their logos.
[13:45] <cyberixae> Is there a bug thread for this issue?
[14:54] <yofel> any idea when the i386 ppa build machines muntries and samarium will get reset? the builds take quite a while with only 2 working machines (They only show: Error accessing Librarian: <urlopen error (111, 'Connection refused')> , just like promethium for amd64)
[14:58] <dnjl> whats wrong with launchpad? I can't access my PPA's!
[15:01] <dnjl> prob is gone :)
[15:01] <dnjl> tnx
[15:14] <opop> hai, launchpad told me to come here and tell you it is broken.
[15:26] <NielsE> any estimates when launchpad will be up again?
[15:27] <opop> is back up, i just checked!
[15:28] <Schumbi> Hello
[15:29] <opop> and back down
[15:29] <Schumbi> Launchpad is overloaded here in Jena/Germany at the moment?
[15:30] <opop> is worldwide, apparently
[15:30] <Schumbi> ah well than ...
[15:30] <Schumbi> or not well
[15:30] <NielsE> sometime's you'll get trough, its just very very slow
[15:32] <Schumbi> but a bit confusing, one try it loads at normal speed and the next it doesn't work
[15:37] <u-foka> Hy there!
[15:37] <u-foka> does launchpad dead?
[15:39] <yofel> u-foka: try reloading it a few times then you'll maybe get the page to load. But yes, it's broken
[15:39] <u-foka> fine, thanks!
[15:40] <u-foka> from four reloads i got my page once, and the message three times, in about ten minutes
[15:41] <jithine> hi anyone facing issue with launchpad ?
[15:42] <jithine> i cannot connect to it
[15:42] <jithine> it gives Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[15:42] <Schumbi> jithine: like most of us
[15:42] <Schumbi> but sometimes it seems to work
[15:43] <jithine> Schumbi:  ok. I have been trying for almost an hour. Guess they need to upgrade hardware
[15:45] <cprov> yofel: let' s see what I can do about the PPA buildds, one sec.
[15:51] <stefanlsd> Does anyone know whats up with staging?
[15:51] <cprov> stefanlsd: probably the same problem affecting edge.l.n
[15:52] <stefanlsd> cprov: oh ok. thanks :) didnt realise there was a bigger problem also
[16:01] <c_korn> when will lp be up again?
[16:02] <cprov> c_korn: asap.
[16:03] <c_korn> ok
[16:04] <__elgato90__> hi, i'm trying to access https://shipit.kubuntu.org/, but i can't
[16:04] <__elgato90__> there it says to contact you here
[16:10] <cprov> __elgato90__: we are working on it.
[16:10]  * BUGabundo checks topic before making the same question
[16:10] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:11] <BUGabundo> cprov: hey. so you know! ahah not on topic?
[16:11] <BUGabundo> ahahaa
[16:11] <BUGabundo> don't do it just because I ask :)
[16:11] <cprov> BUGabundo: ;)
[16:12] <BUGabundo> cprov: http://identi.ca/notice/5830555
[16:13] <cprov> BUGabundo: cool, thanks.
[16:13] <BUGabundo> np
[16:14] <BUGabundo> saw a few users asking
[16:14] <BUGabundo> cprov: http://identi.ca/conversation/1418665#notice-5830587
[16:16] <BUGabundo> http://identi.ca/tag/launchpad
[16:16] <__elgato90__> cprov: thank you very much
[16:16] <__elgato90__> i'll try later then
[16:16] <BUGabundo> at least known for 1 h
[16:26] <dvz-> is it just me or is lp server down?
[16:27] <BUGabundo> yes
[16:27] <BUGabundo> known
[16:27] <BUGabundo> dvz-: see /topic
[16:28] <dvz-> ah, woops, the top of my screen>irssi was covered by gnome-panel
[16:28] <dvz-> thanks BUGabundo
[16:29] <BUGabundo> aahha
[16:41] <cprov> yofel: PPA builders rescued and building.
[16:42] <hkais> hello
[16:42] <hkais> maybe it is already reported but, launchpad is down
[16:42] <yofel> cprov: thanks a lot!
[16:42] <yofel> hkais: see topic - is known
[16:42] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:43] <hkais> oups, sorry
[16:43] <BUGabundo> don't you guys love when something goes down? everyone all of the sudden remembers you of it!
[16:43] <yofel> XD
[16:43] <Schumbi> topics are a great thing ;-) but it seems that this one is too small
[16:44] <hkais> Schumbi: repeat, repeat, repeat
[16:44] <MTecknology> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[16:44] <MTecknology> :(
[16:44] <hkais> is the cause of the downtime already found?
[16:46] <MTecknology> cprov: fixitfixitfixitfixitfixit
[16:46] <cprov> hkais: not yet, I will inform you guys about news in this area.
[16:48] <nekro_> code.lp down? can't get to it from US west coast.
[16:48] <Schumbi> nekro_: topic :-)
[16:49] <nekro_> woops. sorry :) guess I'll go for my morning bike ride
[16:50] <MTecknology> cprov: I don't really like waiting. Could you maybe change the life-script to have $lp_downtime_20090628 = '?min' to something closer to '5sec' ?
[16:50] <MTecknology> :P
[16:51] <cprov> either that or `rm -f MTecknology` <wink>
[16:52] <MTecknology> cprov: I'm stuck into too many places, you're need to recurse me... but sad either way
[16:53] <cprov> MTecknology: I'm sorry, it was supposed to be funny, but I failed. Let me try to help IS guys and get it fixed asap.
[16:53] <MTecknology> cprov: don't worry, I laughed
[16:54] <MTecknology> thanks fopr reminding me though, I need to bug dholbach
[16:54] <MTecknology> not online -_-
[16:55] <MTecknology> cprov: when is the 3.0 release planned?
[16:56] <MTecknology> IT'S BACK!!!
[16:56] <cprov> MTecknology: July after 2.2.7, I don't remember the dates precisely (IIRC there is an message in lp-users@)
[16:57] <hars> The launchpad website tells me to tell you that "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server." persists.
[16:58] <sianis> hars: topic
[16:58] <MTecknology> it's back for what I'm doing
[16:59] <BUGabundo> MattJ: down... some parts coming up now
[16:59] <Schumbi> MTecknology: temporary ;-)
[16:59] <MattJ> edge works, I'm happy :)
[17:00] <BUGabundo> MattJ: edge is devel version !
[17:01] <MattJ> So? :)
[17:03] <BUGabundo> MattJ: be happy, smile!
[17:03] <Inverse> I'm getting an error when connecting to launchpad, "Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode. " anyone else have this issue?
[17:03] <MattJ> I am!
[17:03] <BUGabundo> Inverse: /topic
[17:03] <Inverse> BUGabundo: ok, I fail
[17:03] <Inverse> at chcking topics
[17:10] <twisted> hi guys is launchpad down?
[17:10] <BUGabundo> twisted: /topic
[17:10] <twisted> :) thank you
[17:11] <ircleuser> imagine thousands of people hitting the reload button, over and over and over ... ;-)
[17:11] <sianis> edge is up in Hungary!
[17:12] <twisted> i did that also ircleuser refreshed like 20 times thought it was on my end.
[17:12] <Schumbi> ircleuser: ;-)
[17:13] <BUGabundo> eheh
[17:20] <twisted> launchpads back up
[17:20] <twisted> thanks guys
[17:21] <paykoob> thanks!
[17:21] <twisted> yep
[17:22] <MTecknology> cprov: what was the issue?
[17:22] <cprov> yes, it's officially back
[17:22] <cprov> MTecknology: IS team is still working on the facts
[17:23] <MTecknology> cprov: extra spaces in there
[17:23] <cprov> MTecknology: thanks.
[17:24] <MTecknology> I'm excited to head what happened
[17:25] <MTecknology> hear*
[17:25] <Schumbi> thanks :-) it really works :-)
[17:30] <Schumbi> nice work :-) bye
[17:32] <AskHL_> Hi.  How do I add files (such as a complete source .tar.gz, preferably created in some semi-automatic way) to my project's launchpad downloads page?  (And, if I should RTFM, which FM should I R?)
[17:36] <Inverse> AskHL_: his one: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/19188
[17:37] <AskHL_> Thank you, Inverse
[17:38] <cprov> AskHL_: you can check the possibilities with https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/#project_release
[17:38] <Inverse> After starting with launchpad, I'm beginning to love bzr and scorn svn
[17:45] <vadi2> Hi. Where can I find the "project release series"?
[17:45] <vadi2> https://launchpad.net/project/+series doesn't seem to be it
[17:48] <vadi2> want to setup the translations import and cannot find anything anywhere for the last half hour. I think I've visited every possible page now
[18:04] <cprov> vadi2: the was a launchpad outage 2 hours ago, but it's all fixed now. Which project are you looking for ? (certainly not the one called 'project')
[18:04] <cprov> vadi2: https://edge.launchpad.net/awn/+series, for instance.
[18:04] <vadi2> I'd like to enable automatic imports of translation templates and translations for the giftwrap trunk.
[18:07] <cprov> vadi2: I'm not sure I can help, do you see anything that might help on https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/giftwrap/trunk ?
[18:07] <vadi2> ah, thanks. I was looking around the code part
[18:08] <cprov> also https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/ImportingFromBazaarBranches
[18:13] <vadi2> thanks, seems that one link did it all.
[18:13] <vadi2> Was just rather hard to get to to begin with :)
[18:15] <MTecknology> cprov: you're not help contact now? you should be :)
[18:15] <MTecknology> I demand it
[18:16] <cprov> MTecknology: :)
[18:16] <MTecknology> cprov: sorry if I'm just being stupid now, I'll blame it on the tired, it's already the afternoon
[18:18] <cprov> it's Sunday and we are *here* ... we are probably forgiven of anything.
[18:22] <MTecknology> cprov: I got up 2100, went to work 0130, it's 1222 now :)
[19:05] <andersk> Is it known that CVE reference links are misformatted?  (For example, on bug 393100, the icon for 2009-2108 appears once in the left margin of the page and once overlapping the 2009.)
[19:07] <beuno> andersk, no. Could you file a bug and slap a "css-sprites" tag on it?  :)
[19:10] <andersk> Okay, bug 393186
[19:19] <beuno> andersk, thank you
[20:22] <days_of_ruin> Is launchpad supposed to auto-linkify urls posted in a project summary? Because right now its not working for me -_-