[10:08] <tanath> photon, any file manager windows will close
[10:09] <tanath> photon, alt+f2 > nautilus -q
[10:09] <tanath> or from terminal
[10:10] <photon> tanath: did it, still now showing up. I think it's because I used "safely remove device" and not just "unmount" from the device's menu.
[10:10] <tanath> photon, possibly, but you _should_ use safely remove
[10:10] <photon> is there a device recognition service running in the background I could restart?
[10:11] <CooKieMonster> anyone here now a regular express that remove all links ?
[10:11] <masdiq> haii
[10:11] <beli> CooKieMonster: be more specific...what are you going to do?
[10:11] <tanath> photon, try sudo service udevmonitor restart
[10:13] <beli> CooKieMonster: maybe you want sth. like: find . -maxdepth 1 -type l -exec rm -f {} \;
[10:13] <KeKsCoRe> ubuntu 10.04 is workin muuuuuch better ... than 9.04 .... (in case of my netbook ) ... it was laggin all the time .... but ... and now the live of 10.04  works more  fluent then the installed 9
[10:13] <KeKsCoRe> niiice ^^
[10:14] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, 10.10 is the best so far :P
[10:14] <dr-lee> :)
[10:14] <KeKsCoRe> but ther is not 10 10 netbook version ... or i just found none
[10:14] <nmesis> i havent tried 10.10 just 10.04 - 11.04
[10:14] <photon> tanath: didn't do it. well, I give up. thanks for your support though. :)
[10:14] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, upgrade distro via repos?
[10:14] <AlexandrosGR> i can't remove the 266 driver
[10:14] <AlexandrosGR> please help me!!
[10:15] <tanath> photon, would take more time to narrow down. if short on time a reboot is likely to work
[10:15] <dr-lee> the latest kernel runs very efficient and is suposed to be realtime
[10:15] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:15] <KeKsCoRe> tanath: im just a complete linux newbie ... but i have the skills and the might to google ... and i have a brain ... and ... ^^ im lazy :)
[10:15] <zl0y> hi all
[10:15] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:16] <beli> AlexandrosGR: be more specific and be patient!
[10:16] <tanath> AlexandrosGR, if you stated an error you might get some help
[10:16] <zl0y> can any body help me to mount smb without sudo or root? whitch group I should append user to?
[10:16] <tanath> AlexandrosGR, helping helpers help you helps :P
[10:16] <nbros652> found the answer to my own question: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/5120/make-samba-follow-symlink-outside-share
[10:16] <beli> zl0y: you can add conmands for users to be allowd to do them with sudo also
[10:16] <p1oooop> zl0y: I'm afraid that's not possible (in any way that I know of)
[10:17] <p1oooop> other than that... LOL
[10:17] <p1oooop> but then, it would pose a security risk...
[10:17] <p1oooop> (in case someone decides to mount something malicious)
[10:17] <AlexandrosGR> it tell me that i don't have privileges to do this action
[10:17] <zl0y> beli, without sudo
[10:17] <AlexandrosGR> and the window that i should put my pass shakes
[10:18] <nmesis> AlexandrosGR sudo then the command
[10:18] <beli> zl0y: setuid/setgid script that does the job...but thats really not for security
[10:18] <tanath> shakes? o_O
[10:18] <AlexandrosGR> how?i dont know?
[10:18] <nmesis> maybe the screen lock @@
[10:18] <zl0y> beli, could you please describe more detailed about setuid/setgid script?
[10:19] <beli> zl0y: read the chmod manual and search for setuid bit
[10:19] <tanath> dammit, this happens like every time i come here. come here for help and spend more time helping others than getting help
[10:20] <beli> zl0y: but use sudo....sudo is not for giving root access only...read its manual too
[10:20] <zl0y> beli, I know what is the chmod and setuid bit
[10:20] <nmesis> tanath helping is fun ^^
[10:20] <beli> zl0y: so wheres the problem then?
[10:20] <tanath> nmesis, sometimes, lol
[10:20] <nmesis> haha
[10:20] <AlexandrosGR> ?
[10:20] <tanath> nmesis, but it's 520am here and i want to get this scan started so i can go to bed >.<
[10:20] <pvh_sa> hey there, i'm on ubuntu 11.04, since a few days ago i get lots of noise on my microphone. anyone got an idea how to debug this?
[10:20] <zl0y> beli, what the script? where I should change bit?
[10:21] <nmesis> LOL, 5:20 ?
[10:21] <tanath> nmesis, yeah...
[10:21] <nmesis> drink energy drink so you will be still alive
[10:22] <tanath> nmesis, no, i need to sleep soon, lol
[10:22] <dr-lee> @pvh_sa having problems here too with the build in mic in ubuntu 11.04
[10:22] <tanath> nmesis, caffeine bad
[10:22] <marcus_dust> hi
[10:22] <nmesis> if not too much its helpful
[10:23] <pvh_sa> dr-lee, i've got a toshiba portege r700 ic2, what do you have?
[10:23] <beli> zl0y: you said you know what it is.....so why not read the manuals for detailed information?
[10:23] <dr-lee> medion discounter laptop with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ghz - 4 years old
[10:23] <zl0y> beli, I have already read it
[10:23] <KeKsCoRe> ... <sing> this was a triumph, im makin a note here: HUGE SUCCESS</sing>
[10:24] <zl0y> beli, You told about script
[10:24] <nmesis> congrats KeKsCoRe
[10:24] <KeKsCoRe> thank you all seems to work so far ^^
[10:24] <zl0y> beli, what script was you talking about?
[10:25] <nmesis> your using 10.04 netbook edition?
[10:25] <KeKsCoRe> yeah
[10:25] <beli> zl0y: yes...create a script/binary/whatever that does the job you want......put it into a public ENV path, give it the user/group and special setuid/setgid perms you want it to have....and have your users run it ;)
[10:25] <beli> zl0y:  and again.....use sudo features.......read the manual...its all in there
[10:26] <zl0y> I can't use sudo
[10:26] <beli> zl0y: do not use setgid/setgid if there is really no other possibility
[10:26] <beli> zl0y: why not?
[10:27] <zl0y> because the program will perform all actions automatically, but it cannot enter password
[10:27] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, samba, etc?
[10:28] <beli> zl0y: open your mind and trust me and read the sudo manuals! you can do it with NOPASSWD option
[10:28] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:28] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, now you got that song stuck in my head. thanks
[10:28] <KeKsCoRe> im installin samba right after updatin
[10:29] <prezident> can anybody tell me how to fix a kernel that doesn't want to work everytime i try to go on 2.6.38-8-generic it gives me black screen and doesn't want to run any fix /
[10:29] <prezident> ?
[10:29] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, ...no use crying over every mistake, you just keep on trying 'till you run out of cake!
[10:29] <ubuntu_> how can i add nickname to a group?
[10:29] <KeKsCoRe> how do i update on 10.10
[10:29] <zamba> the latest nvidia driver has messed up my two-display setup.. instead of getting two separate screens, where i can make one primary and place the launcher on, it's now a continous space
[10:29] <zl0y> beli, ok, thank you very much
[10:30] <tanath> KeKsCoRe, 'sudo do-release-upgrade' i think
[10:30] <zamba> previously i got two outputs when i used 'xrandr', but now i only got one
[10:30] <ubuntu_> help me please
[10:30] <beli> ubuntu_: man useradd --> G option
[10:32] <tanath> prezident, any other signs of life? disk activity? does it freeze?
[10:32] <ubuntu_> i can't join to c++ channel.how to join to it?
[10:33] <tanath> prezident, if it doesn't freeze, try setting video mode to something low that should work?
[10:33] <tanath>  /j #channel
[10:33] <prezident> i can't even log on
[10:33] <prezident> it just a black screen
[10:33] <tanath> prezident, you set it in grub by adding it to the command line
[10:33] <prezident> tanath its just a black screen and it doesn't move
[10:33] <ubuntu_> help
[10:34] <MaDiNfO_Work> hi
[10:34] <tanath> prezident, listen for hard drive activity. hit numlock/capslock to see if keyboard freezes
[10:34] <IdleOne> ubuntu_: you need to register you nick to enter #c++
[10:34] <IdleOne> !register | ubuntu_
[10:34] <ubuntu_> how to register in c++?
[10:34] <tanath> prezident, if it's not locking up, hit 'e' in grub to edit command line. look up grub stuff for what to do
[10:34] <prezident> ive tried its not the hard drive its the kernel bcuz when i got to an older kernel it works fine
[10:34] <IdleOne> ubuntu_: read the link ubottu just gave you.
[10:35] <MaDiNfO_Work> is anyone knows if Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[10:35] <MaDiNfO_Work>  PHP version is going to be updated soon ? to  5.3.4???  5.3.2 has some security issues...
[10:35] <tanath> prezident, i didn't suggest it was 'the hard drive' i said to listen to hard drive activity to see if it was doing anything while you couldn't see shit
[10:35] <IdleOne> tanath: no cursing please
[10:36] <XuMuK> hi folks
[10:36] <zl0y> one more question
[10:36] <tanath> IdleOne, yeah, it's 536am. i'm tired
[10:36] <prezident> lol tanath are you mad ? lol calm down buddy
[10:36] <yassine_hell_> hi ... bored what can we do on linux ..
[10:36] <zl0y> wat's wrong: sudo ip route add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth0
[10:36] <zl0y> [sudo] password for int:
[10:36] <zl0y> RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[10:36] <prezident> thanx neway for your help
[10:36] <MuNk`> how do you restart the unity bar? >.> its frozen on me
[10:36] <IdleOne> tanath: then go to sleep if you can't control yourself :)
[10:36] <tanath> prezident, i come here to get help, and typically end up helping others 'til the wee hours. i need to go to bed
[10:36] <XuMuK> now all my links in weechat are opened by ff and I would like to use chrome instead
[10:37] <XuMuK> how should I change it?
[10:37] <prezident> tanath o ok go head man get sum rest
[10:37] <tanath> IdleOne, there's also the fact that i don't necessarily agree with the policy, but i don't bother disputing it
[10:37] <XuMuK> Any idea?
[10:37] <tanath> prezident, i'd rather not waste time. i need my issue resolved. i can't do much with my comp right now
[10:37] <IdleOne> tanath: agrrement is not required, only compliance.
[10:37] <prezident> aww man
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, need to start a scan before bed, but having trouble with that
[10:38] <yassine_hell_> question : whats linux redhat?
[10:38] <prezident> a scan i hope not for viruses
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, yup
[10:38] <prezident> on linux ?
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, well, malware anyway
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> yassine_hell_: red hat is a distro, like ubuntu fedora or suse
[10:38] <DJones> yassine_hell_: Its another version of the linus operating syatem
[10:38] <tanath> prezident, windows malware
[10:38] <prezident> oooo man windows suck ! no offense windows ppl
[10:39] <tanath> prezident, trying to get windows scanner working from live disc
[10:39] <yassine_hell_> :) ok ty
[10:39] <DJones> !redhat | yassine_hell_
[10:39] <IdleOne> yassine_hell_: redhat.com and it is offtopic for here, you can maybe ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:39] <XuMuK> Someone can help me, please?
[10:39] <user> I have a huge prob with Linux Mint and Ubuntu
[10:39] <yassine_hell_> IdleOne sorry..
[10:39] <prezident> its tons of freen scans online that are not scams
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> !ask| XuMuK
[10:39] <prezident> try one
[10:39] <user> I might switch to Windows if I can't fix it
[10:39] <improveupon> ! my gui keeps freezing after suspend (on a laptop) and half the time when i boot it it doesn't ask for a login
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> user: whats the prob?
[10:40] <tanath> prezident, you know one that could work? :P
[10:40] <improveupon> relax, i did not mean to summon thee, bot
[10:40] <XuMuK> MonkeyDust, I asked allready but none answered
[10:40] <user> How to bblock porn in Ubuntu or Linux Mint and how to stop getting tempted to wacth porn
[10:40] <KeKsCoRe> now updatin and upgradin ^^
[10:40] <user> Plz porn is a serious problem that needs to be stoppoed now
[10:41] <XuMuK> now all my links in weechat are opened by ff and I would like to use chrome instead
[10:41] <yassine_hell_> ok , i tried to enter to my router with firefox, but it says i need javascript or something like that ...
[10:41] <XuMuK> how should I change it?
[10:41] <tanath> prezident, just tried bitdefender. not compatible with linux :P
[10:41] <user> usually it happens when I am bored so if u can tell me some fun stuff to do on Ubuntu for free I might stop it
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> user: i think that is not ubuntu related, it is a prob on all platforms and world wide
[10:41] <prezident> yea i was just checking that one out
[10:41] <prezident> i thought you had windows
[10:41] <prezident> ?
[10:41] <user> yeah but haerd to block on Ubuntu
[10:42] <improveupon> user, go out and buy porn not on the computer
[10:42] <prezident> http://download.cnet.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition-2011/3000-2239_4-10320142.html
[10:42] <prezident> tanath http://download.cnet.com/AVG-Anti-Virus-Free-Edition-2011/3000-2239_4-10320142.html
[10:42] <XuMuK> useless channel, it's about anything less ubuntu help...
[10:43] <improveupon> i want ubuntu help
[10:43] <tanath> prezident, avg is terrible. i'll not bother with it
[10:43] <prezident> o ok
[10:43] <tanath> prezident, it has like the worst detection rates
[10:43] <prezident> tanath if you wanna make sure windows don't have malware just throw your computer out the window
[10:43] <tanath> :P
[10:44] <yassine_hell_> how can i make the sound gets out from the headphones only?
[10:44] <tanath> prezident, i managed for nearly 2 decades to never get infected. first time 'cause i trusted a friend
[10:44] <ns5> Hi!  Has the power consumption bug in 11.04 been fixed?
[10:45] <prezident> tanath smh thats f^
[10:45] <yassine_hell_> ??
[10:45] <prezident> what type of malware is it you know
[10:45] <prezident> what is it doin to your cpu
[10:45] <tanath> prezident, trojans
[10:45] <jpds> !ot | tanath, prezident
[10:45] <tanath> prezident, and rootkit methinks
[10:45] <tanath> jpds, it's called context
[10:45] <ShishKabab> I think my NVidia 8600GT card is slowly dying. I'm thinking of replacing it with an ATI Radeon HD5670. I've heard that there were a lot of issues with ATI drivers, but ATI has open-sourced the drivers since then, What's the stance on ATI drivers nowadays?
[10:46] <tanath> prezident, hm. trend micro one won't let me click next on license agreement. nothing happens
[10:46] <yassine_hell_> ??
[10:48] <yassine_hell_> any one knows how?
[10:48] <dsathe> r u talking bout antivirus ?
[10:48] <dsathe> u dont need it
[10:49] <yassine_hell_> dsathe me? no im not talking about anti viruis
[10:49] <tanath> dsathe, how would you know?
[10:49] <dsathe> wat u askin ?
[10:49] <dsathe> i read trend micro
[10:49] <MuNk`> the bar on the side of net ubuntu 11.04, has locked up is there a way to reload it?
[10:49] <dsathe> srry just came ol
[10:50] <dsathe> MuNk`: compiz --replace
[10:50] <yassine_hell_> dsathe i want to use only the headphones on my ubuntu , not the seekers
[10:50] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, discussion which AV would be better is an offtopic discussion and not support related.
[10:50] <dsathe> aah kk
[10:50] <dsathe> laptop model ?
[10:50] <yassine_hell_> i tried to "mute" the "master" in the mixer
[10:50] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, not aware of anyone having that discussion
[10:50] <dsathe> u probably have to add a line to modprobe.conf or alsa.conf
[10:50] <monkey> ne one tried backtrack 5?
[10:51] <yassine_hell_> monkey i am lol
[10:51] <yassine_hell_> dsathe wer do i find that?
[10:51] <XenoPhoenix> Since the upgrade to 11.04, my video is green until I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it back in, If i then turn the TV off and on again it's green again till I replug it again, (intel driver) and idea what might be causing this and how to solve it?
[10:51] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, and actually, it would be support related for my issue
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, it would not be. What would be support related is finding a way to remove the trojan, discussion which AV is not.
[10:52] <HectorAOssaH> nick newnic
[10:52] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, that would be the point of discussing which is more effective no?
[10:52] <monkey> code/programming  questions can be asked here?......m new to this
[10:52] <s3r3n1t7> tanath, no, the point would be how to remove that trojan, the discussion which is better has no effect on that.
[10:52] <asdjaputra> monkey, no
[10:52] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, but again, didn't see anyone having that discussion, so not sure why you're telling me that
[10:53] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, better _for removing said malware_
 prezident, avg is terrible. i'll not bother with it
[10:53] <asdjaputra> monkey, ask a programming specific channel

[10:53] <tanath> s3r3n1t7, nothing wrong with that comment
[10:53] <monkey> programming specific channel plz!!!!!!!!!!11
[10:54] <asdjaputra> ##C?
[10:54] <monkey> java
[10:54] <tanath> monkey, there's different ones for different langauges
[10:54] <hase> I'm trying to set up port forwarding
[10:54] <asdjaputra> #java?
[10:54] <yassine_hell_> so how can i use only my headphones in ubuntu?
[10:54] <monkey> asdjaputra:plz help me out.........need it urgently
[10:54] <tanath> hase, you should prolly use gufw
[10:55] <asdjaputra> monkey, google for "Java freenode channel"
[10:57] <arovij> in my synaptec manager i see xvfb2:1.4.1 but I want to download xvfb2:1.4.2 . how do i do that?
[10:57] <asdjaputra> monkey, i found ##java
[10:57] <tanath> arovij, ctrl+e
[10:58] <asdjaputra> but you need to be registered with the network
[10:58] <arovij> tanath : I am sorry please give more details.
[10:58] <tanath> arovij, select package > ctrl+e. if it sees multiple versions it'll let you choose and 'force version'
[10:59] <arovij> tanath : Thanks. but here also i don't see 2:1.4.2 I see only 2:1.4.1 version
[10:59] <arovij> tanath : let me do a apt-get update
[10:59] <tanath> arovij, good idea
[11:00] <tanath> arovij, must be in a repo to install with synaptic
[11:01] <hase> I changed my network interfaces and hosts files to give myself a static ip and it changed my ip on my router, but when i set up the port forwarding on the rotuer it still says it's not open on the website to check it, I just tried gufw and that didn't seem to change anything...
[11:02] <arovij> tanath : i did a sudo apt-get update but in synaptec i still don't see latest version .. may be it's because My Ubuntu 8.04.4 is not supposed to have that???
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, likely. enable backports repository and see if it shows up
[11:03] <monkey> programming specific channel plz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:03] <jpds> monkey: Well, which programming language?
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, poke in synaptic's menus. you should find it
[11:03] <arovij> tanath : am new to this.. please tell me how do I do this. Thanks for your patience. :)
[11:03] <tanath> arovij, don't forget to update/reload again
[11:03] <monkey> jpds:java
[11:04] <jpds> monkey: Tried ##java ?
[11:05] <tanath> arovij, somewhere in the menus it says Repositories. look for the backports repo and enable it. then reload
[11:07] <Iraqi> I have error in time installing AR5523 but there error : Couldn't create the /usr/src/linux symlink! and I googled was found in ubuntu have same ! how fix it?
[11:08] <monkey> jdps: its not connectin
[11:08] <arovij> tanath : I found repositories. But am not able to find backports repo.. give me a min... i
[11:09] <tanath> arovij, settings > repositories > updates
[11:09] <tanath> arovij, enable proposed and backports
[11:10] <tanath> arovij, also, enable security updates without confirmation is a good idea
[11:10] <CooKieMonster> meow~
[11:11] <arovij> tanath : it's greyed out for me... I cannot select any of those :(
[11:11] <yassine_hell_> hey
[11:11] <tanath> arovij, did you somehow do something to your sources.list?
[11:12] <ys0> ohi
[11:12] <arovij> tanath : guilty as charged.. yes I have messed up that..
[11:12] <tanath> arovij, i guess you're missing a few
[11:12] <ys0> there are some 8086 emulator for ubuntu?
[11:12] <codingenesis> can anyone tell me, what .thumnails  is meant for ???
[11:12] <tanath> arovij, ubuntu tweak is a handy app for editing it
[11:12] <codingenesis> thumbnails *
[11:12] <ys0> i have to test some simple source code
[11:13] <prod___> Hi all, i have a small problem that is mainly because i am unable to word it and find a response on google. I bought a vpn account and was given a vpn-provider.ca.crt. I am trying to automate the vpn connection on startup but as its a "username and password style" vpn connection it requires me to enter details before connecting (not very automated). I think i need to create .key files but am unsure. Can anyone help me? Jus
[11:13] <prod___> t a link to a tutorial/docu would be enough. The ubuntu docu only says about creatin new certificates and not what i am looking for. TIA
[11:14] <ys0> anyone knows a 8086 simulator for linux?
[11:14] <arovij> tanath : ok... I couple of weeks back I wanted to compile firefox and it needed older version of some softwares so I added few stuff and i din keep a backup of my sources.list.. How do I rectify that?
[11:14] <Pokemon> i do not know
[11:14] <ys0> Pokemon: thx for the answeer ;)
[11:14] <codingenesis> hey  pls tell me .....what are .thumbnail in home folder for ???
[11:14] <tanath> arovij, why compile when there are ready-made binaries?
[11:14] <codingenesis> do they automatically take the snapshot of what ayou are doing ??
[11:15] <arovij> tanath : I wanted to apply some patches I had written
[11:15] <tanath> arovij, 8.04 ?
[11:15] <arovij> tanath : yes
[11:15] <tanath> arovij, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783577
[11:16] <tanath> arovij, good reason for old release?
[11:16] <codingenesis> what ever images i saw got saved in .thumbnails folder in home !! How is that possible ???
[11:16] <DasEi> arovij: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[11:16] <codingenesis> does it mean someone hacked my pc ???
[11:17] <tanath> codingenesis, uh, they're the cached thumbnails...
[11:17] <arovij> tanath : No particular reason.. Just scared. Don't want to break stuff till present project is over
[11:17] <tanath> arovij, ubuntu improved much up 'till 10.10
[11:18] <codingenesis> tanath : So it is all normal ??
[11:18] <tanath> codingenesis, yes
[11:18] <arovij> tanath : i will update it this weekend :) Thanks for your help..
[11:19] <tanath> codingenesis, file manager makes thumbnails (mini versions) so you can see what the image looks like before opening it. these are cached so it doesn't have to recreate them every time
[11:19] <tanath> arovij, np
[11:19] <codingenesis> tanath: so why they are stored in thumbnails folder??
[11:19] <asdjaputra> 10% battery remaning!
[11:19] <tanath> codingenesis, that's the location of the cache. such mini images are known as thumbnails
[11:19] <codingenesis> why are they cached ??
[11:20] <tanath> codingenesis, for performance
[11:20] <tanath> codingenesis, would be slow if it had to rescan all the images every time you opened the folder
[11:20] <arovij> tanath : for the time being if I want to use a wget to get the latest Xvfb and not apt-get. Is it possible?
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, yeah. can browse to packages.ubuntu.com i think and grab packages manually
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, gwget is handy btw
[11:21] <arovij> tanath , gwget.. ok lemme check that...
[11:21] <tanath> arovij, then 'dpkg -i package.deb' to install
[11:22] <arovij> ok..
[11:22] <codingenesis> tanath: thanks  :)   so in windows there must also be something similar to thumbnails folder ???
[11:22] <tanath> arovij, simple gui for wget. resides in notification area
[11:22] <tanath> codingenesis, yeah
[11:23] <codingenesis> tanath: can you tell me where i can find that??
[11:23] <arovij> tanath.. one problem I am looking for Xvfb is , the machine where I am trying to install this doesn't 've a X . No monitor..
[11:23] <tanath> codingenesis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_thumbnail_cache
[11:23] <rileyp> need help with usb sound card on 10.04
[11:23] <tanath> arovij, ah
[11:24] <rileyp> sound comes out in mythtv but sounds awful
[11:24] <rileyp> no sound in firefox or vlc
[11:24] <arovij> tanath : The whole idea is to run firefox in a machine which doen't 've a x. It already has a Xvfb but not the latest version.. want to get the latest version..
[11:24] <rileyp> it comes up as usb audip
[11:24] <osse> In gnome-terminal there is an option under Keyboard preferences to turn off menu access via the Alt key. But it doesn't have any effect. I'm on 11.04. Is there a way to get around it?
[11:24] <tanath> arovij, o_O if you want a browser for a box without X, i'd recommend elinks
[11:25] <rileyp> can anyomne help me with my asound.rc
[11:25] <tanath> arovij, seems to be the best browser designed for such a scenario
[11:25] <rileyp> alsamixer wil not run
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> rileyp: more details pls, what have you, what errors do you get, what type of card do you use etc
[11:25] <arovij> tanath : Nice smiley...... ok let me try that... But does it execute javascript?
[11:25] <codingenesis> tanath: if  a remote computer wants to access those thumbnails can they access it
[11:25] <tanath> arovij, i believe so
[11:26] <arovij> tanath : am asking too many questions. let me find that out by myself.
[11:26] <tanath> codingenesis, not generally... they'd have to be able to access the folder. in which case they can access the images themselves
[11:27] <rileyp> MonkeyDust:  Its a usb sound card from ebay $2  it produces sound but when I run alsamixer it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[11:27] <tanath> arovij, if not, i'm sure i'd be easier/better to modify elinks than firefox
[11:27] <codingenesis> tanath: Thanks friend for your help !! :)
[11:27] <tanath> codingenesis, np
[11:27] <rileyp> It only works in mythtv and it sounds terrible
[11:27] <arovij> tanath : definately .. I had severe hair loss going thru firefox code
[11:27] <tanath> ;)
[11:28] <rileyp> I'll pastebin aplay -l and some other info Hang on
[11:28] <rileyp>  [AUDIO          ]: USB-Audio - USB  AUDIO
[11:29] <rileyp> USB  AUDIO at usb-0000:00:12.0-3, full speed
[11:29] <Mjuksel> im off for a break guys
[11:29] <Mjuksel> cyua
[11:32] <Pokemon> quit
[11:39] <rileyp> http://pastebin.com/5iCUAZ8v  my usb soundcard
[11:39] <rileyp> can someone help me get alsamixer working with it
[11:39] <rileyp> and make it default
[11:40] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, Ubuntu?
[11:40] <rileyp> oh yeah 10.04
[11:40] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  10.04
[11:41] <nephx> Hi! Just installed ubuntu, must say, epic cheesy interface... Any way I can get rid of all this and just have plain old gnome?
[11:41] <YankDownUnder> nephx, Yes...there is...
[11:41] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  Mythbuntu
[11:41] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, wrong channel, rileyp - this is Ubuntu support
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> nephx, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-common-gnome-3-issues-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty.html
[11:42] <RevSpecies116> Myth runs on XFCE4
[11:42] <Stormshadow> hi all
[11:42] <osse> nephx, at login there is a button somewhere that let's you choose a session. From there you can choose regular Gnome
[11:42] <YankDownUnder> You can make Gnome3 act/look basically like Gnome2
[11:42] <geeme> Hi there. Can anyone recommend a way to stream a usb webcam attached locally by USB to a 10.10 server to a webpage. Looking to then "connect"it up to Zoneminder VM to monitor along with other network cameras
[11:43] <nephx> This unity thing is horribly laggy... Totally new laptop with i5 can't handle the launcher... Pathetic
[11:43] <geeme> I have used "motion" but find it is unreliable. Considering using VLC.
[11:43] <Stormshadow> Im trying to understand locale stuff :: how can i add a locale such that its listed when i execute locale -a?
[11:46] <nephx> omg this is horrible
[11:46] <AbTux> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 11.04 , is it possible online or using a DVD?
[11:46] <YankDownUnder> nephx, Mate, get rid of it completely, move to Gnome3, tweak it out to be "normal" like Gnome2, and Bob's yer uncle.
[11:47] <RevSpecies116> Nephx, at the login screen, choose Ubuntu Classic as the 'session' - Unity will not be there
[11:47] <nephx> Btw, wth is libre office?
[11:48] <mervaka> openoffice
[11:48] <mervaka> but forked
[11:48] <RevSpecies116> rileyp: try #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:48] <rpisharody> Yeah and it is actively developed
[11:48] <RevSpecies116> nephx, have you logged out yet to get back to a non-unity desktop?
[11:49] <nephx> RevSpecies116, of course
[11:49] <nephx> that thing was totally unusable
[11:49] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, good :)
[11:49] <AbTux> I want to upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 11.04 , is it possible online or using a DVD?
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> AbTux: yes
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> But not directly, AbTux
[11:50] <AbTux> RevSpecies116: what you mean by not directly?
[11:50] <RevSpecies116> You need to update through 9.10, 10.04, 10.10, to 11.04
[11:51] <RevSpecies116> That is the only [not even supported] way to upgrade to 11.04
[11:51] <Salvador_> hi
[11:51] <Salvador_> ls
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> !eol > AbTux
[11:53] <ricree> From time to time, using right+left mouse buttons at the same time to generate a middle click seems to stop working.  Resetting the computer fixes this, but I'd prefer a solution that doesn't require resets
[11:55] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  ubuntu and mythbuntu no driver differnces only gui I want to make a usb sound card work
[11:55] <Jim1> Hello. I hope someone might be able to give an opinion. I have a box I use for torrent, surfing and word processing. I need to put in a new 2Tb HDD. Must be quiet and use little power and be reliable. Am thinking about the WD20EARX. Any experience with this? I will also be installing 11.04 - upgrading from 10.04.
[11:56] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  I know I have xfce4 thats fine my problem will not be resolved in the fn gui
[11:56] <Sidewinder1> ricree, If there's nothing in: System--.Pregerences--> Mouse that corrects the problem, perhaps there's an updated mouse-driver you could use?
[11:57] <rileyp> http://pastebin.com/5iCUAZ8v
[11:57] <rileyp> someone please
[11:57] <rileyp> alsamixer no worky i want to make my sound card default
[11:57] <rileyp>  and resolve issues
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> rileyp: try #ubuntu-mythtv
[11:58] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  no one on that channel
[11:58] <CheckMate7> Ubuntu is taking all the 80 GBz , how can I let it take only 40 ?
[11:58] <rileyp> and no differnce only gui differnce
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> I doubt anyone here can help with a Mythbuntu issue, rileyp
[11:58] <RevSpecies116> There is unfortunately a HUGE difference
[11:59] <ricree> Sidewinder1, there isn't an option there, though I'm a little hesitant to start installing new drivers.
[11:59] <rileyp> Its not a gui issue its a termanil issue and I use ubuntu and thi sis ubuntu channel and I have same Kernel
[11:59] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  I just installd alsa o.24
[11:59] <rileyp> lets rool
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> ricree, I know what you're sayin', but it's the only selection I am aware of... :-(
[12:00] <rileyp> Kets roll
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, that is factually incorrect
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> OK, rileyp do this: top panel
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> Goto System->Preferences->sound
[12:00] <rileyp> alsa 0.24  It a gui I dont want to work in gui
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> OK, rileyp do this: top panel
[12:00] <RevSpecies116> Goto System->Preferences->sound
[12:00] <txomon_> does anyone know how to upgrade NetworkManager?
[12:00] <rileyp> terminal is sweet
[12:01] <RevSpecies116> certainly not, rileyp
[12:02] <rileyp> RevSpecies116:  yes it is once you learn you never forget
[12:02] <RevSpecies116> rileyp, since we cannot troubleshoot a Mythbuntu issue in this channel, I can only suggest you visit #ubuntu-mythtv
[12:03] <Linux4UnMe> clear
[12:04] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see output from df -h, if there is more then 50% space free still, then use a live cd with gparted to resize, don't forget to alter fstab/grub
[12:05] <RevSpecies116> CheckMate7: Ubuntu in 80GB?  Getting this on a Ubuntu Server 11.04 installation
[12:05] <RevSpecies116> My Ubuntu 10.04LTS takes up 8.7GB
[12:06] <ricree> Sidewinder1:  Found a solution, in case you were wondering.  There's an option for emulation in gpointing-device-settings.  Still not sure why it got deactivated, but I was able to get it working again.
[12:06] <siton> Arch takes up 3GB......
[12:06] <mac_> why my firefox is not working
[12:06] <koshie> Hi
[12:06] <Pokemon> guess
[12:06] <koshie> mac_, version ? error message ?
[12:06] <DasEi> CheckMate7: you select at install time, how space it takes, a fully eqipped one may take around 20 though
[12:06] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, I see, CheckMate7 it's a gparted issue
[12:07] <DasEi> how much *
[12:07] <koshie> What do you call «not working» ?
[12:07] <siton> delete your config file for ff
[12:07] <RevSpecies116> Not that ubuntu is really taking it all, you just want the partition to take 40GB not 80GB
[12:07] <CheckMate7> now I have used 22 out of 80
[12:07] <siton> the restart your ff, it will be ok
[12:07] <RevSpecies116> What you plan on formatting the remaing 40GB as?
[12:07] <CheckMate7> there is more than 50% space
[12:07] <DasEi> CheckMate7: rather normal, as you need space for downloads n stuff, too
[12:07] <CheckMate7> having BT5
[12:08] <DasEi> CheckMate7: so can go way schown above or use a vm
[12:08] <CheckMate7> I just want to make Ubuntu with 40 and I believe that's enough for Ubuntu
[12:08] <Salih-k> Hello everyone, i have question about installation ubuntu 11.04. I download the 32 bit version of 11.04 and start to install it but at the end of the installation there was a configuring phase and asked me that if i want to transfer files from windows and i said yes accidently than i waited for a long time and shutdown without waiting to finish the process. And start to install again but this time it did'nt ask me that question and stat to transfer files. What
[12:08] <Salih-k> do to skip this step ?
[12:08] <xokvictor> кто может помочь? не запускается браузер хром (11.04)
[12:08] <rpisharody> CheckMate7 : Ubuntu in 40 is good :)
[12:09] <CheckMate7> Yeah , exactly
[12:09] <CheckMate7> now it's on 80 , how can I make it on 40 ?
[12:09] <nephx> xokvictor, this isn't the russian support channel, please use one, or proceed in english
[12:09] <RevSpecies116> rpisharody: indeed - my 40GB HDD has headps to spare :)
[12:09] <DasEi> !ru | xokvictor
[12:09] <rpisharody> Use GParted. Resize the partition.. But from a Live CD
[12:09] <xokvictor> sorry
[12:10] <CheckMate7> Can't I do that with a USB stick ?
[12:10] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see above, I'll  repeat :
[12:10] <DasEi> CheckMate7: see output from df -h, if there is more then 50% space free still, then use a live cd with gparted to resize, don't forget to alter fstab/grub
[12:10] <DasEi> usb is fine, too
[12:10] <xokvictor> who can help me? why chromium browser not launched?
[12:10] <rpisharody> livecd or usb stick. Doesn't matter
[12:10] <yeastwars> aaaaaaaaaaaarghhhhhhhh why is ubuntu using my wifi led as a network activity led? It blinks for every packet received. How can I disable this horrible, idiotic feature?
[12:10] <yeastwars> and whose terrible idea was this?
[12:10] <DasEi> xokvictor: start chromium from teminal and report output
[12:10] <CheckMate7> but here is the problem : it stuck on keyboard layout :(
[12:10] <rpisharody> yeastwars : Isn't it a fun feature ? Whoa !
[12:10] <xokvictor> one moment
[12:11] <yeastwars> rpisharody: it's awesome!
[12:11] <yeastwars> I LOVE IT
[12:11] <yeastwars> I can know when I receive a packet! How cool!
[12:11] <DasEi> CheckMate7: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[12:11]  * yeastwars reaches for the black tape
[12:11] <DasEi> :)
[12:11] <CheckMate7> I did that and Can't get it done :(
[12:11] <xokvictor> DasEi: chromium-browser
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680633:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(442)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680676:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680700:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680708:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(264)] Failed to create /home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680721:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(442)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680730:ERROR:process_singleton_linux.cc(240)] readlink(/home/likewise-open/VASU/bystrovvv/.config/chromium/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[12:11] <xokvictor> [2427:2427:1791680741:ERROR:browser_main.cc(1403)] Failed to create a ProcessSingleton for your profile directory. This means that running multiple instances would start multiple browser processes rather than opening a new window in the existing process. Aborting now to avoid profile corruption.
[12:11] <DasEi> !paste | xokvictor
[12:12] <RevSpecies116> WHOOSH
[12:12] <przemek_> hi everybody. I'm having some trouble whith nfs client. On the client I cant set ownership of the files on nfs share. Is there a way to do this?
[12:12] <RevSpecies116> !nfs
[12:12] <DasEi> xokvictor: apparently your permissions are borked, so try reinstalling chrome as regular user
[12:13] <xokvictor> DasEi: already
[12:14] <DasEi> xokvictor: you are not working from a rootaccount now ?
[12:14] <mac_> help me my firefox is not working
[12:15] <LoganCloud> !doesn't work | mac_
[12:16] <acperkins> is there a way of "helping" Banshee to recognise a CD? so far it has only found track names for 2/10 of my CDs.
[12:18] <gn> #zid.at
[12:18] <DasEi> xokvictor: do other browsers work ?
[12:18] <jahman_> one wate man ocean wem im dey
[12:18] <DirtyDawg> english pls
[12:18] <jahman_> ssh ubunt
[12:19] <Salih-k> Guys i am installing ubuntu 11.04 now. At the and of the installation it asked that if i want to transfer files from windows but i stupidly say yes. Now can't take it back that option i am using usb stick how can i make it forgot that choice and start to clean insrallation again ?
[12:20] <asmodeus> hi...what do i have to do so that I don't have to run 'compiz --replace' to get the 3d effects every time i log in?
[12:20] <LoganCloud> !pm | mac_
[12:21] <Salih-k> Any opinion ?
[12:21] <_Lucifer> asmodeus: you could probably add the command to a startup script
[12:21] <DasEi> asmodeus: to /etc/rc.local, precisly
[12:22] <DirtyDawg> i warn you against listening to _Lucifer : you're mortal soul is at risk
[12:22] <asmodeus> DasEi, _Lucifer doesn't rc.local get run well before X and compiz are running?
[12:22] <_Lucifer> DirtyDawg: how do you figure?
[12:23] <DasEi> asmodeus: no, it's the last after upstart finished
[12:23] <_Lucifer> asmodeus: I'm not sure. only startup script I actually have experience with is the autostart.sh for openbox
[12:23] <ronr_> how can I check if I have a 64bit or 32 bit os (ubuntu server, cli only)?
[12:24] <kodapa> ronr_: uname -a
[12:24] <rpisharody> uname -a will do
[12:24] <rpisharody> If its 32Bit, there should be a mention of i686
[12:24] <ronr_> great, thank you both :)
[12:25] <ronr_> yeah, it's 64 bit, so that's great.
[12:25] <ronr_> laters!
[12:25] <RevSpecies116> asmodeus: try the command: 'compiz --replace &'
[12:26] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: initial question was to automate this at startup
[12:26] <sorush20> is there a program out there that allows time and date stamp change?
[12:26] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: Not sure about my installation of Ubuntu 10.04LTS, then - as I've only ever typed it in once and compiz stayed around even on the next restart
[12:27] <przemek_> hi everybody. I'm having some trouble whith nfs shares. On a client I cant set ownership of the files on nfs share. Is there a way to do this?
[12:27] <RevSpecies116> And then when I do metacity --replace &, metacity stays around
[12:27] <asmodeus> RevSpecies116, _Lucifer, DasEi thanks, off to tinker...
[12:27] <DasEi> asmodeus: have you read RevSpecies116 ^ ?
[12:28] <DasEi> ah, fine
[12:28] <iamviveksri> help
[12:28] <Maimster> Morning all.
[12:28] <DasEi> !ask | iamviveksri
[12:28] <rpisharody> Personal Opinion: I dislike Compiz for all its flashiness :)
[12:28] <iamviveksri> i have a netbook wish to install ubuntu
[12:28] <DasEi> rpisharody: gnomy here, too, even 3 is fine in vm so far
[12:29] <_sara--> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615292/ does anyone get this error when going to gmail?
[12:29] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: you have access to an external CD drive? or USB Flash stick?
[12:29] <iamviveksri> 11.04 version just gives a blank sceen with syslinux written
[12:30] <cabina> hi
[12:30] <Maimster> sara: Nope
[12:30] <iamviveksri> @rev sir i have usb
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, I don't.
[12:30] <RevSpecies116> And it looks like you already have the USB stick ready to install 11.04
[12:31] <iamviveksri> yes
[12:31] <iamviveksri> it did not install
[12:31] <RevSpecies116> I'm not sure what you mean by the syslinux part though
[12:31] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh
[12:31] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Can you type out the exact Error message you get when you boot from the USB ?
[12:31] <_sara--> Sidewinder1:  if someone is trying to maninthe middle me what to do?
[12:32] <DasEi> hangs at install, so faulty usb
[12:32] <iamviveksri> when the laptop booted from usb, a screen came with just one line written --something about syslinux
[12:32] <cabina> I'm a first time user of irc and I need a bit of help but i don't want to mess your discussion
[12:32] <RevSpecies116> BUT if it is a long message, iamviveksri - pastebin is a better option otherwise the automated bots may kick you out
[12:32] <iamviveksri> i cant type out full line just now--will have to reboot
[12:32] <DasEi> cabina: pm me, or I'll do better
[12:33] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, I don't really know; it may be a gmail cookies issue?
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> is it a laptop or a netbook?
[12:33] <_sara--> Sidewinder1:  its on evolution mail client
[12:33] <iamviveksri> @rev i think laptop
[12:33] <RevSpecies116> 15"+ screen?
[12:34] <iamviveksri> around 15" screen
[12:34] <Sidewinder1> _sara--, Then I have no clue; I've never used evolution. :-(
[12:34] <mac_> help me
[12:34] <RevSpecies116> Laptop, then - okies, iamviveksri, it could be an error on the USB stick
[12:34] <_sara--> mac_: there is saviour in all of us... lol dont ask to ask just ask
[12:34] <RevSpecies116> and not your laptop
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> You could try making the USB stick again
[12:35] <angle> help me firefox is not working
[12:35] <iamviveksri> my usb stick is ok--- i use it daily sir
[12:35] <rpisharody> What about the image you used on the USB Drive ?
[12:35] <RevSpecies116> Not a physical error, iamviveksri, but a copy error
[12:35] <iamviveksri> yes i tried for 10.4 version tht didnt load thru usb
[12:35] <sakethome> Hi, whenever there is a kernel update my computer does not load into graphics mode and loads into only command prompt. I've a nvidia GeForce graphics card
[12:36] <iamviveksri> i am currently downloading 10.10 version
[12:36] <sakethome> I'm using ubuntu 10.10
[12:36] <iamviveksri> @rev i used the usb creator in 11.4
[12:36] <Pokemon> iamviveksri, i had the problem ever
[12:36] <RevSpecies116> Lenovo laptop this end, and 10.04LTS
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> Okies, was that via CD to make the USB?
[12:37] <iamviveksri> @rev so will i be able to load 10.10 from usb please
[12:37] <RevSpecies116> yep, iamviveksri - that is doable
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> But 10.10 wont be around for too much longer
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> A personal reccomendation is use 10.04 [failed] or 11.04
[12:38] <iamviveksri> @rev  will it not upgrade itself if i can load it
[12:38] <RevSpecies116> but that is ONLY a personal recommendation - you can use whichever you wish - and still install from USB :)
[12:38] <DasEi> Is someone experienced with xmonad to help cabina ?
[12:38] <fellipe> hi friends. I've update my ubuntu desktop from 10.10 to 11.04 trough package manager. but the progress bar in totem is disallowed. any  idea?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> angle, The only thing I can think of is for you to search for and find your bookmark file (bookmarks.htm?) copy it to another directory; then using Synaptic Package Mgr., completely remove Firefox, then reinstall it.
[12:39] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: what OS you currently using?
[12:39] <iamviveksri> @rev i already have 10.4 and 11.4 but dont know what i am doing wrong to load it---dunno what is via cd
[12:39] <Intelza> hello Hi everyone I asked about the problem the video card is Intel's graphics, I Usage. A model that is called the Mobile Intel 965 drivers from having problems in Ubuntu. It is not for this. Now very worried because the job requires a 3D program, but no driver. The program can be opened, but very slow. It does not include graphics. Is there but no driver. If someone had told me they brought me a lot I want.
[12:39] <iamviveksri> @rev current os is win 7
[12:39] <iamviveksri> 32
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> So, to confirm, you downloaded the ubuntu .iso files
[12:40] <rpisharody> Viver: Try using UNetBootin to create a bootable USB
[12:40] <DasEi> cabina: what exactly is it you want to do with X ? tile the workspace in say four similar ones ?
[12:40] <CheckMate7> Choosing the create button will IMMEDIATELY  EARS ALL DATA on disk/sda ??? what to do without erasing DATA  ??
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> and used a windows based programme to make the USB sticks?
[12:40] <iamviveksri> @rev confirm
[12:40] <cabina> I need the xmonad to make 1 screen out of 8 heads
[12:40] <RevSpecies116> And what was that windows USB maker programme called?
[12:40] <iamviveksri> @rev i used the usb program in ubuntu iso
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: create what, exactly?
[12:40] <kevin_> hello .3
[12:40] <kevin_> :3
[12:41] <DasEi> cabina: ic, can't help there
[12:41] <CheckMate7> partion table
[12:41] <cabina> dasei i'll send you another pm
[12:41] <CheckMate7> I wanna divide the 80 to 40/40
[12:41] <CheckMate7> without losing DATA
[12:41] <rumpe1> sakethome, how did you install the nvidia driver?
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: you can choose 'something else'
[12:41] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: because I don't use windows, I don't know exactly what the programme you used is
[12:41] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: I'm not familiar with the USB Program in Ubuntu ISO. But as I said, UNetBotin is what I've used to do what you are trying
[12:41] <Pokemon> it's easy
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> !dualboot | CheckMate7
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> What is it called from the Ubuntu .iso?
[12:42] <sakethome> @rumpel i downloaded the driver from the website and installed it
[12:42] <iamviveksri> @ rev, rpi i am now downloading unetbootin
[12:42] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: great :)
[12:42] <CheckMate7> Yup . That might be useful :)
[12:42] <Vustom> On my other PC I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 and it was working just fine but when I restarted the PC and logged in, I only got a black screen with the mouse.. I can't do anything and I can't open a terminal..
[12:43] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Get converted to GNU?Linux soon :)
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> CheckMate7, If you're going to shrink an NTFS partition, don't forget to defrag it at least twice, prior to shrinking.
[12:43] <iamviveksri> @rev its called usb-creator in ubuntu 11.4 iso
[12:43] <fellipe> hi friends. I've update my ubuntu desktop from 10.10 to 11.04 trough package manager. but the progress bar in totem is disallowed. any  idea?
[12:43] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, thanks for that, iamviveksri - i'LL REMEMBER THAT FOR NEXT TIME THIS QUERY COMES UP
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Vustom: do you have more than one pc in the same network? if yes, type ssh -Y user@ip "gnome-panel& metacity&"
[12:44] <iamviveksri> @rev but it has not worked
[12:44] <sakethome> @rumpel downloaded the driver from the nvidia website. I've a sony viao laptop and it works well but after every kernel update the grub shows me the new kernel and when i choose the new kernel it loads into commad prompt
[12:44] <RevSpecies116> Sorry, caps came on
[12:44] <CheckMate7> This is what I'm talking about , I just want to shrink my Ubuntu Partition from 80 to 40 without losing data
[12:44] <CheckMate7> not a dualboot
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> that is not possible, CheckMate7
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> CheckMate7: doable with gparted LiveCD
[12:45] <Sidewinder1> !pm > angle
[12:45] <iamviveksri> @rev so shud i try unetbootin and revert
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> MonkeyDust: Are you sure?
[12:45] <rpisharody> CheckMate7: What RevSpecies1 said is right. I've done it
[12:45] <Vustom> MonkeyDust No, at the moment I'm on the same PC just on the live CD at the moment..
[12:45] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: definatly try the unetbootin method
[12:45] <CheckMate7> I did gparted with USB stick and it says access denied :)
[12:45] <DasEi> MonkeyDust: would bee if root (and maybe swap) is at the end or beginning
[12:45] <DasEi> be*
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> CheckMate7: my friend's advice is better than mine :)
[12:46] <iamviveksri> @rev and rpi ---thanks for talking to me and your kind support
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: No troubles, I just hope it works :)
[12:47] <Vustom> MonkeyDust Is it safe to delete stuff in the /tmp folder?
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> Do come back and tell us if it works or not
[12:47] <rpisharody> ChackMate7: You sure that the root partition is not mounted ?
[12:47] <Intelza> hello Hi everyone I asked about the problem the video card is Intel's graphics, I Usage. A model that is called the Mobile Intel 965 drivers from having problems in Ubuntu. It is not for this. Now very worried because the job requires a 3D program, but no driver. The program can be opened, but very slow. It does not include graphics. Is there but no driver. If someone had told me they brought me a lot I want.
[12:47] <RevSpecies116> Then, as 'payment' stick around sometime in the future, and help other users in this channel :)
[12:48] <iamviveksri> @rev sure rev--however i am not as knowledgeable as u both
[12:48] <rpisharody> iamviveksri: Doesn't matter.  What character do you use to overcome the blank space in the terminal, I mean imagine that you want to copy a file called "CV ENG" in the same directory. It doesn t work and I think is because of the blank space between the two words
[12:52] <nep1x> it understand that the file to copy is CV and the directory ENG
[12:52] <SwedeMike> nep1x: CV\ ENG
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> nep1x: try a simple backslash
[12:53] <nep1x> ok! thanks
[12:54] <mithridates> "Built-in virus protection" What does that mean?
[12:54] <mithridates> I saw it in the ubuntu website
[12:55] <mithridates> are they talking about SElinux?
[12:55] <LjL> mithridates: marketing nonsense, methinks
[12:55] <mithridates> oh gochya for windows users
[12:55] <Salih-k> Hello guys, i installed ubuntu 11.04 but i cannot start the wifi it doesn't see the wifi connections but it can see when i start the ubuntu on live cd.
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> !virus | mithridates
[12:55] <DebJunkie> how do I remove a ppa repository, which ppa-purge can't seem to find?
[12:55] <LjL> mithridates: there are very few Linux viruses and even fewer in the wild, but that doesn't mean Ubuntu has any particular protection built-in
[12:56] <ballzoffury> #reddit
[12:56] <mithridates> Sidewinder1: yeah I know that, but it was in ubuntu website
[12:56] <DasEi> !register > cabina
[12:56] <bazhang> DebJunkie, check the sources.list
[12:56] <DebJunkie> it isn't in there
[12:56] <pujo> hi nice to know u ?
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> bazhang: was faster :)
[12:56] <DebJunkie> that's the problem
[12:56] <mithridates> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[12:56] <bazhang> DebJunkie, check sources.list.d then
[12:57] <bazhang> pujo, ubuntu support question?
[12:57] <DebJunkie> hold on while I check
[12:57] <LjL> mithridates: i believe you it says that, i'm just saying that in my opinion, that's just marketing nonsense
[12:57] <dr3mro> hey , I have ubuntu 11.04 and it works gr8 but at some points it just freezes and i have to do hard reset .. tried to disable vsync and no use it just keep happening .. using Fujitsu Siemens Amilo PI 1505 ..
[12:57] <phaidros> where to configure autologin into the terminal on  boot? as we dont have inittab anymore, I wonder how is that done nowadays :)
[12:57] <DebJunkie> bazhang: fixed
[12:57] <phaidros> any hints?
[12:57] <DebJunkie> tq
[12:58] <DasEi> phaidros: unity or gnome ?
[12:59] <phaidros> DasEi: Terminal, no X
[12:59] <phaidros> Console so to say :)
[13:00] <phaidros> inittab got replaced by upstart, right?
[13:00] <virhilo> san anybody check this after lasters update? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/790624 ?:)
[13:00] <virhilo> s/lasters/lastest
[13:01] <kflottorp> Is there a way to create separate development environments in linux in general? I want to easily be able to switch between different setups, kinda like virtual environments in python. I don't want to use chroot because it changes too much.
[13:02] <phaidros> kflottorp: not natively, build jails and chroot into there
[13:03] <kflottorp> phaidros: what does jails do? never heard of it before :(
[13:03] <phaidros> any hint how to automaticly login to the terminal/console?
[13:03] <phaidros> kflottorp: a jail is an envirnment where you chroot into, with all the stuff you need. because a chroot is a closed env. so find $tool which suites you best, to build your jails
[13:03] <starZ> autoboot: try tuning your xorg.conf or your gdm conf file..
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> phaidros: put gnome-terminal in the startup applications list
[13:04] <phaidros> starZ: xorg.conf and gdm are X-related, as I told you before. there is no X on my system ;)
[13:04] <phaidros> MonkeyDust: Console, just plain Console, no X :)
[13:04] <jazzanova> hi
[13:04] <jazzanova> hi
[13:04] <jazzanova> wow..
[13:04] <phaidros> wow
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> wow
[13:04] <starZ> sorry no clue..
[13:05] <phaidros> np, thx anyways
[13:05] <jazzanova> i couldn't post in teh beginning, said "cant' send to channel"
[13:05] <jazzanova> anyways, i why I came here
[13:05] <jazzanova> I made a site to donate to debian packages: http://www.online-tipjar.com
[13:05] <jpablobr> Hi, newbie question... can I restrict write access to a file for a user that belong to a group which grants write access to that file?
[13:05] <kflottorp> phaidros: thanks. I'll look into it
[13:05] <phaidros> anyone a clue how inittab was replaced and what does its' job lately?
[13:05] <bazhang> jazzanova, no adverts please
[13:06] <Pici> !upstart | phaidros
[13:06] <newc> hello
[13:06] <phaidros> kflottorp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot .. thats a beginning, there are tools out there to create jails easier ..
[13:07] <phaidros> Pici: upstart doesnt talk about auto-spawning a login .. any hints there?
[13:07] <newc> don't know anybody is listening?
[13:07] <DasEi> phaidros: sorry, was distracted in another tab, got your answer ?
[13:07] <bazhang> newc, ubuntu support question?
[13:07] <newc> jes
[13:07] <newc> thanks
[13:07] <phaidros> DasEi: nope, still need a way to log into the console after boot, no X on the machine though
[13:07] <newc> i'm using a bit old machine
[13:07] <daedaluz> the best podcast program? one that doesn't ignore already downloaded episodes like rhythmbox does
[13:08] <newc> and got to 11.04 version update
[13:08] <DasEi> phaidros: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf , there you can change the bools of autologin
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:08] <bazhang> newc, on a single line, please
[13:08] <newc> ok
[13:08] <phaidros> DasEi: then again, there is no X on that machine, hence no gdm. I need to login to the first Console
[13:08] <kflottorp> phaidros: thanks =)
[13:08] <phaidros> (Alt-F1)
[13:09] <newc> so my problem is that the new version (11.04) does not recognise any of network hardware in my system(compaq 6310)
[13:09] <starZ> phaidros: did you have look at this topic? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/auto-login-to-text-mode-261633/
[13:09] <newc> no
[13:10] <DasEi> phaidros: just look if it's there, or /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[13:10] <newc> will check out right now
[13:11] <phaidros> DasEi: GDM is responsible for login to X Servers, I have no X on my machine. hence GDM is useless here. this issue was formerly handled by /etc/inittab, which is not existing anymore on ubuntu, it got replaced by upstart.
[13:11] <phaidros> the docs even talk about /etc/event.d but even that is not on my default 11.04 install
[13:11] <phaidros> should it be? is that the place?
[13:12] <phaidros> starZ: thanx, but exaclty that is the problem, /etc/inittab got removed from ubuntu, all docs about console autologin talk about /etc/inittab, so I came here to learn :)
[13:12] <Pici> phaidros: The conf files that control what things are started by upstart and when are located in /etc/init/
[13:12] <phaidros> Pici: thx
[13:12] <milossh> hello. how many gigs of ram can 11.04 32 bit recognize and operate?
[13:12] <RevSpecies116> Newc: please confirm - Ubuntu pre-11.04 was working perfectly on your computer, and now the update to 11.04 had made your network capabilities vanish?
[13:12] <phaidros> milossh: usually 3, with a PAE kernel (should be -server branch) could be 4GB
[13:13] <nep1x> Hi, newbie question... can I restrict write access to a file for a user that belong to a group which grants write access to that file?
[13:13] <eipi-1> hi, i often have disconnects on some campus-WLAN. dmesg says: deauthenticating from *** by local choice (reason=3) i can not reconnect until reloading iwlagn modul
[13:13] <phaidros> nep1x: you want to read up about ACLs
[13:13] <DasEi> phaidros: sudo apt-get install mingetty
[13:14] <phaidros> nep1x: depending on your filesystem you can enable ACLs and configure them, what you wnat is not doable with standard unix permissions
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: yeah!
[13:14] <RevSpecies116> newc: please confirm - Ubuntu pre-11.04 was working perfectly on your computer, and now the update to 11.04 had made your network capabilities vanish?
[13:14] <DasEi> phaidros: sudo nano /etc/init/tty1.conf
[13:14] <daedaluz> recomend me a good podcast program, please. rhythmbox acts retarded.
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: yeah! thats it!
[13:14] <phaidros> DasEi: where did  you find this?
[13:14] <milossh> phaidros, thanks.  I'm not a fan of this plymouth related changes to..
[13:15]  * phaidros too blind or too busy .. thanx dude!
[13:15] <iamviveksri> @rev hello i am back
[13:16] <BluesKaj> Milossh, 11.04 64 bit here works very well, what issues do you have ?
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> hello iamviveksri :) Did it work, or same problem?
[13:16] <DasEi> phaidros: where would I be , if no one pushed me here and then , have fun
[13:16] <sartek_> Hey
[13:16] <phaidros> DasEi: lol
[13:16] <iamviveksri> @rev it worked awesome --11.4 did not install but 10.4 did
[13:16] <RevSpecies116> Great :)
[13:16] <Milossh> BluesKaj, first thing: alsa. driving me nuts. second one: from time to time, some buttons are not click-responsive, in whatever app I try it
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @rev but i didnt have any drivers for the system so could not log in internet
[13:17] <Milossh> also, software I was using for years is crashing: like vlc, firefox, skype
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @rev now i have to search for drivers through windows :(
[13:17] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, iamviveksri :(
[13:17] <eipi-1> tuk
[13:17] <Milossh> as for skype, I know, it's nowhere near good
[13:17] <RevSpecies116> Wifi or wired?
[13:17] <iamviveksri> @ rev at least i need the wifi
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Milossh, ok what about alsa ..describe pls
[13:18] <RevSpecies116> OKies, did you check if wired worked at all, or did it not detect your network at all?
[13:18] <Milossh> BluesKaj, my input and output are mixed
[13:18] <Milossh> and I can't solve it
[13:18] <Milossh> and I had a lot of problems making input work at all
[13:18] <iamviveksri> #rev i didnt have the wires for wired :)
[13:18] <Milossh> output is ok
[13:19] <Milossh> iamviveksri, try TAB key on keyboard, it should help you by autocompleting nick
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, anyway that you can, iamviveksri?
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> anyway that you can have access to an ethernet cable, iamviveksri ?
[13:19] <iamviveksri> @rev if i get these drivers should i put them on the usb stick and load from there itself?
[13:19] <RevSpecies116> Just for about 10 mins ;) ?
[13:19] <EricJ> So I'm having problems with LIRC under Natty. Two different conflicting kernel modules are loaded at boot time, and I've identified the bad one. Problem is, simply blacklisting it won't work, lsmod still shows it after bootup. Any ideas how to ban it forever? :]
[13:20] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: thanks Milossh
[13:20] <Milossh> yw
[13:20] <RevSpecies116> iamviveksri: you can definetly try that USB driver method - but it will be more of a pain that what making Ubuntu work on USB was
[13:21] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: like guru nanak said---everyone has some pain in life :) but with your kind support i shall overcome
[13:21] <iamviveksri> RevSpecies116: will be back
[13:21] <Milossh> BluesKaj, meaning that input catches my output
[13:21] <RevSpecies116> :) okies, iamviveksri :)
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Milossh, do you have pulseaudio still installed?
[13:21] <Milossh> BluesKaj, yeah
[13:22] <Milossh> I had it on 10.04 and 10.10 too, 32 bit, and it worked nice
[13:23] <AndroUser> .
[13:23] <ghost2> quit
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Milossh, pulseaudio is meant IMO, for highter end pci soundcards not integrated sound cards with fewer options , it mostly causes more problems than it solves for integreted , so you may want consider removing pulse audio .
[13:24] <Salih-k> Guys how can i activate wifi on ubuntu 11.04
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> I want to know whay pulse audio was implemented in Ubuntu is a 'shoddy' way - that it hasn't been integrated more closely to work better than OOS
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> or is that OSS
[13:25] <DasEi> !wireless | Salih-k
[13:25] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: different things
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: Salih-k has Ubuntu pre-11.04 on his computer working fine
[13:25] <Bagatelle> if I have a certian software installed via PPA I should uninstall it from synaptic, right?
[13:25] <RevSpecies116> And even the 11.04 liveCD gave him wifi
[13:25] <Bagatelle> certain
[13:26] <RevSpecies116> It's just that the installed 11.04 now does not
[13:26] <bazhang> !info ppa-purge | Bagatelle
[13:26] <coz_> Bagatelle,  that would be the safest way yes
[13:26] <syntech> wish there was a way to unsubscribe from all the spam mail in the whole world.
[13:26] <syntech> lol
[13:26] <DasEi> RevSpecies116: alsa and oss are the drivers, pulseaudio is just a sound-proxy to enable multiple sources access to sound
[13:26] <coz_> Bagatelle,  also  there is a small utility named   y-ppa-manger,, not in the repostiory  but will not only search for ppa  according to the version of ubuntu you are running but also purge them as well
[13:27] <Bagatelle> but I want to keep the ppa, get rid of the synaptic, I just need to make sure that uninstalling from shynaptic wont alter my ppa installation
[13:27] <dz2> is it safe to install gnome in natty yet?
[13:27] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, DasEi - so Ubuntu used OSS+Pulse or ALSA+Pulse?
[13:27] <DasEi>  Salih-k: just read RevSpecies116, so can't gurantee for that being proper
[13:27] <coz_> dz2,   gnome3?   no
[13:27] <bazhang> dz2, you mean gnome3? no.
[13:27] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:yupp
[13:28] <syntech> btw, i love unity. :)
[13:28] <DasEi> or even either oss or alsa, and no pulse
[13:28] <syntech> this is my first time using Linux in 3 years...
[13:28] <coz_> dz2,   there something named  UGR  which is a ppa but it purges Unity and installs gnome3
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> And which is the default?
[13:28] <syntech> hi
[13:28] <dinamizador> buenas
[13:28] <dz2> can I install gnome 2 then?
[13:28] <dz2> eg 2.22
[13:28] <RevSpecies116> dz2, gnome2 is already standard in 11.04
[13:29] <bazhang> dz2, choose classic at login window
[13:29] <dz2> ok thanks
[13:29] <DasEi> coz_: dz2, I just added ppa, installed g3 and set loginmanager to classic, fine in vm so far
[13:31] <Bagatelle> who can help me with tor - i2p?
[13:32] <Salih-k> DasEi: exactly that is happen to me i only managed to actovate wifi on live cd but when i made clean installation it doesn't work. Before that i upgrade from 10.10 even it works fine but when did clean installation it doesn't activate wifi.
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Bagatelle: we're here to help, so shoot
[13:32] <bencc> installed a fresh ubuntu and after "apt-update && apt-get upgrader" getting in syslog "localhost CRON[9137]: Module is unknown"
[13:32] <RevSpecies116> DasEi: salih-k's issue is puzzling even me
[13:33] <newc> yes i'm abit confused among so many lines of text,the 10.10 version has worked perfectli on my machine,as i had upgraded to version 11.04 first the wireless hardware go off and now the complete networking hardware
[13:33] <Bagatelle> I used both i2p and to without problems, that was before I had a ICEauthority problem that f*cked it all up, now I cannot use neither. I have been suggested, in the i2p channel, to install a PPA owned by KYTV, that allows me to connect to tor, but just partially: vidalia says Im connected, but the main page of tor says Im not. Every piece of tor installed in my machine is from that ppa
[13:33] <bazhang> Bagatelle, no cursing, including the *
[13:33] <DasEi>  Salih-k: so can you go wired on that  box ? else grab livecd, find the correct module to load by lsmod, and set it up manually
[13:34] <openshell> when i click on skype it appears shortly and then disappears as i am signing in
[13:34] <Bagatelle> ok, problem that accidentally .... it all up
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> Bagatelle: what is i2p and what is ICEauthority?
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> Bagatelle - you could say it Frelled it all up, if you like Farscape ;)
[13:35] <studiomonitor> k
[13:35] <Bagatelle> never heard that before rev
[13:35] <Maimster> RevSpecies116: Good show.
[13:35] <openshell> does finch mess up skype
[13:35] <Bagatelle> i2p is an overlay network
[13:35] <RevSpecies116> How the Hesmana are you ;)
[13:35] <openshell> need some help
[13:36] <syntech> omg facebook messages suck.
[13:36] <Sidewinder1> !ask | openshell
[13:36] <djazz> why does 11.04 screw up with multiple monitors?
[13:37] <openshell> ubottu then answer my question
[13:37] <syntech> because it not 11.04 for 2 monitors ?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> djazz: 'why' is a philosophical question, we can only help you with 'how'
[13:37] <syntech> lol
[13:37] <djazz> changing from a small monitor to a bigger: http://i.imgur.com/gMZwW.png and side by side: http://i.imgur.com/BNHmj.png
[13:37] <syntech> you've got strength jah!
[13:37] <KM0201> openshell: i don't know why finch would mess up skype.. i have pidgin and skype open all the time, no issues.
[13:38] <bazhang> syntech, thats not helpful
[13:38] <djazz> MonkeyDust, then, how do I fix it?
[13:38] <bazhang> syntech, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[13:38] <openshell> well after configuring my skype on finch, started getting issues
[13:39] <Pici> openshell: When did you configure it?
[13:39] <syntech> Bazhang, i wasn't inteding to be helpful!
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> OKies folks, question for you regarding wifi that is effecting at least two users in here [not me], and it was working pre-11.04, and even on the 11.04 LiveCD, but WiFi now nolonger works after 11.04 has been installed, what could it be?
[13:39] <syntech> atleast in that statement but okay
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> DasEi is heading in a direction I'd like to continue
[13:39] <bazhang> syntech, wrong channel. Please stop it.
[13:39] <syntech> i'm not doing anything?
[13:39] <RevSpecies116> How would they use lsmod to cure the problem, DasEi ?
[13:39] <Sidewinder1> openshell, issues=error messages? What exactly is going wrong?
[13:40] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:you look up the modul needed being loaded, so the os is aware of wlan0, then setup interfaces
[13:40] <Pici> openshell: There was a problem that began on May 26th regarding signing into skype.  You may want to try these steps in an attempt to resolve the issue: http://heartbeat.skype.com/2011/05/problems_signing_into_skype_an.html
[13:41] <DasEi> RevSpecies116:else it simly doesn't get find at all
[13:41] <RevSpecies116> Are there easy terminal commands thay could use? I've used Ubuntu since 6.06, but never had to venture into the realms of the lsmod command [lucky me?]
[13:42] <c4pt> can someone tell me how to point debootstrap for a powerpc install
[13:42] <c4pt> debootstrap --arch powerpc natty http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu doesnt seem to work
[13:43] <c4pt> *deboostrap --arch powerpc natty /mnt/ubuntu http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[13:43] <petrolman> Is that a feature that most of the programs cleans the memory at start time? E.g. I often mark text in a gnome terminal to copy into gedit. Each time I open gedit the marked text is not in memory any more.
[13:43] <Pici> c4pt: The powerpc packages are on http://ports.ubuntu.com/ , not http://archiev.ubuntu.com
[13:44] <Pici> c4pt: Especially not there if I spell it wrong. ;)
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> petrolman: keep the terminal open till you have finished the copy and paste
[13:44] <c4pt> Pici, thank you
[13:44] <RevSpecies116> As because you close the terminal, it thinks you have finished, and thus removes the 'stuff' from clipboard
[13:44] <petrolman> RevSpecies116, I never close terminals :)
[13:45] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, then I don't know why that would be, petrolman :)
[13:45] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod how?
[13:46] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod how?
[13:47] <petrolman> Marking text to get it into memory was one the best feature I noticed when migrating from windows to linux many years ago :)
[13:47] <c4pt> Pici, do you know how i can disable plymouth from starting?
[13:47] <anass> hello, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04, I want to enable rewrite-mod, how?
[13:47] <Pici> c4pt: No, sorry, I don;t.
[13:47] <phaidros> how do I reset the keyboard language in a console-only system?
[13:47] <pokrmessiah> anyone having trouble downloading the updated pam packages? I'm getting a 404 on all of them
[13:47] <DynamicFail> Is there a way to add something to the System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications via command line?
[13:47] <phaidros> anass: sudo a2enmod rewrite ?
[13:47] <seeks> Alright.  So, in 11.04... I removed the file manager launcher from the panel (wanted to replace it with Thunar)
[13:48] <pokrmessiah> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam-runtime_1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2_all.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[13:48] <seeks> Unfortunately, my thunar install seems to be a bit buggy.  So how do I get the original back?
[13:48] <anass> phaidros: I did this but no effect!
[13:48] <phaidros> anass: restarted apache ?
[13:48] <seeks> I tried adding 'Home folder', but it doesn't track open windows.
[13:48] <OerHeks> PokeTehPenguin, you are affected with this bug too ? bug 790538
[13:48] <anass> phaidros: yes, I did!
[13:48] <systemww> Hey, anybody on 11.04 and can't fetch a few packages that just got updated recently?
[13:49] <phaidros> anass: does "sudo a2enmod" say something about rewrite ?
[13:49] <systemww> i'm getting 404s :-(
[13:49] <systemww> did apt-get update ofc
[13:49] <systemww> still 404
[13:49] <OerHeks> this is a bad bug, cron stopped working, so is auto update
[13:49] <phaidros> systemww: sudo apitude again
[13:49] <pokrmessiah> ah
[13:49] <pokrmessiah> thanks
[13:49] <seeks> sys, you might just wait a little while.  I had that problem with Mint, and it worked a few hours later.
[13:50] <anass> phaidros: e2enmod says: Module rewrite already enabled
[13:50] <RevSpecies116> c4pt: There may be a programme
[13:50] <OerHeks> restart cron solves this issue now, but you must be aware of that.
[13:50] <bazhang> systemww, switch mirrors in synaptic and try again
[13:50] <potatohead> how to open the wine directory browser?
[13:50] <c4pt> RevSpecies116, ?
[13:50] <phaidros> anass: then it is. how do you test?
[13:51] <phaidros> potatohead: winebrowser?
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> c4pt: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/super-boot-manager-eases-burg-grub-plymouth-tweaking-pains/
[13:51] <Pici> pokrmessiah: It looks like the package was removed, take a look at the most recent update here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam/+publishinghistory
[13:51] <RevSpecies116> re plymoth
[13:51] <anass> phaidros: I put a .htaccess with rewriteMod on, but no effect in this folder!
[13:51] <systemww> bah
[13:51] <rubul> huh
[13:51] <phaidros> anass: please trywith apache config file, maybe it is just your .htaccess which is not parsed
[13:51] <pokrmessiah> pici yeah I found the bug report about it. thanks
[13:52] <anass> phaidros: how?
[13:52] <c4pt> RevSpecies116, :( need to do it from command line in a chroot environment or my system might not boot (powerpc system)
[13:52] <phaidros> anass: write your config into your apache vhost file
[13:52] <anass> phaidros: I'll copy the same .htaccess statements to httpd.conf files, OK?
[13:52] <n1xNc0d3> hi, evolution is going in offline mode even i'm connected to internet. And "Work Online" is greyed out
[13:52] <OerHeks> Pici, this is a result of this pam update > bug 790538
[13:53] <RevSpecies116> Ahhh, sorry c4pt, can't help you with that one :(
[13:53] <phaidros> anass: however you prefer to configure your vhosts
[13:53] <Pici> OerHeks: Indeed. Of course I updated this morning before they removed the package :(
[13:53] <systemww> Well, I'm pulling from security.ubuntu.com mirror, pam updates; and they are 404ing, just apt-get updated. So anyways, hope somebody realized they messed up and fixes this issue for all the 11.04 users out there :)
[13:53] <anass> phaidros: I'm trying in my personal machine
[13:53] <OerHeks> Just restart cron solves it for now, else no auto updates, right ?
[13:53] <Pici> OerHeks, pokrmessiah: IRC traffic elsewhere tells me they're working on the fix right now.
[13:54] <phaidros> anass: however you configure your vhosts in your personal machine :)
[13:54] <anass> phaidros: I've just installed apache2 and don't know a lot about it.
[13:54] <petrolman> Is there still a death head cursor to kill a window? I ve interrupted a system check but the window seems to be in a busy loop and I cant find the pocess id of this.
[13:54] <phaidros> anass: check your apache config for the vhost
[13:55] <pokrmessiah> petrolman: alt-f2 > xkill
[13:55] <anass> phaidros: OK, I'll search more
[13:55] <phaidros> anass: yepp
[13:55] <bencc> I'm getting: "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates/main libpam0g amd64 1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2"
[13:55] <bencc> are the repositories down?
[13:55] <openshell> anass is a gross nick
[13:55] <pokrmessiah> the packages were pulled
[13:55] <phaidros> anass: start with a proper apache vhost conf, as soon as that works, go into detail with rewrite etc
[13:55] <systemww> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/pam/libpam0g_1.1.2-2ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb
[13:55] <systemww> bencc: me too
[13:55] <systemww> somebody try to open that link i posted
[13:55] <Pici> bencc, systemww: The package was removed due to a regression.
[13:55] <systemww> and enjoy your 404s
[13:55] <systemww> :)
[13:55] <FloodBot1> systemww: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:56] <systemww> Pici: package manifests are not up to date then :(
[13:56] <anass> phaidros: OK, I'll
[13:56] <Pici> systemww: Yes, it was just done about 15 minutes ago.
[13:56] <jiohdi> I just got a security update notification and then when trying to upgrade 404 errors
[13:56] <anass> openshell: what?
[13:56] <systemww> matter of minutes then? :-D
[13:56] <Pici> jiohdi: The package was removed due to a regression.
[13:57] <jiohdi> pici then why tell us to update to it?
[13:57] <pokrmessiah> someone should put that in the channel topic
[13:57] <Pici> jiohdi: Because it was *just* removed.
[13:57] <bencc> Pici: so what do I do? I have a fresh server and trying "apt-get update && apt-get upgrader"
[13:57] <anass> openshell: that's my real name!
[13:57] <bencc> Pici: shouldn't it just work?
[13:57] <openshell> ok anass
[13:57] <systemww> bencc: could add --fix-missing to the upgrade cmd
[13:57] <Pici> bencc: Wait.
[13:57] <systemww> to ignore it
[13:58] <jiohdi> what does regression mean exactly?
[13:58] <bencc> Pici: wait?
[13:58] <Pici> jiohdi: https://launchpad.net/bugs/790538
[13:58] <petrolman> pokrmessiah, thanks, I get the cursor, and clicked it on the frame of the window but the windows still keeps busy. It says: collecting system data ...
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> jiohdi: it means to go back.In Linux it usually implies something which once was good, got worse with upgrades
[13:58] <Pici> bencc: Yes, it should be fixed today at some point.  I can't put an exact time on it, but I know the devs are actively working on it.
[13:58] <systemww> somebody jumped the gun here! :(
[13:59] <bencc> Pici: should it all work without apt-get upgrade?
[13:59] <bencc> Pici: regression bug is something that might happen. should apt-get deal with it?
[14:00] <salvatore> salve a tutti
[14:00] <Pici> bencc: You'll need to wait until they publish an updated package, theres nothing anyone can do in the meantime.
[14:00] <salvatore> !list
[14:01] <BluesKaj> !it | salvatore
[14:01] <petrolman> apt-get upgrade -> aptitude safe-upgrade
[14:02] <bencc> Pici: it doesn't make sense that apt can't deal with bug like that and revert to an old working package automatically
[14:03] <Pici> bencc: the package manifests say that the package should be available.
[14:03] <DynamicFail> Is there a way to add something to the System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications via command line?
[14:03] <bencc> Pici: maybe they did an emergency action that prevent apt from working
[14:03] <bencc> Pici: sounds like a very serious bug affecting many automatic cron jobs
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: you can symlink the .desktop from /usr/share/applications to ~/.config/autostart
[14:04] <auk> is ther any possibility of problems if i switch my uid to 500?
[14:04] <deneb> hi....once on a month i get possibly kernel panic...my computer freezes and the ony i can do is to push reset button....why that's happening?
[14:05] <Pici> auk: Not from well written software ;)
[14:06] <auk> Pici: you don't have any non-well-written software in mind do you?
[14:06] <auk> Pici, it's for compatability with fedora
[14:06] <systemww> Well, I hope this issue gets fixed, this is worse than debian devs introducing security holes while trying to get stuff more secure™ ☹; Good day #ubuntu! :)))
[14:06] <systemww> looking forward to the fix
[14:06] <Pici> systemww: Er...
[14:07] <Pici> auk: You shouldn't have any issues with package in the repositories.
[14:07] <DynamicFail> ActionParsnip, ~/.config/autostart doesn't exist on my system 10.04. Also the things I want to start are actually bash scripts. I just want to be able to write a bash script that is able to add a custom entry with associated command to be added to System -> Preference -> Startup Applications
[14:07] <Sidewinder1> deneb, I'm not familiar with the causes and cures of kernel panic; but you'll need to be more specific as to what programs were running, or was it one program, each month that caused the panic?...Etc..
[14:07] <osse> In gnome-terminal there is an option under Keyboard preferences to turn off menu access via the Alt key. But it doesn't have any effect. I'm on 11.04. Is there a way to get around it?
[14:07] <korsakof> Hi everyone! I'm trying to do something really simple but I think my brain needs another coffee to start properly: I want to grep 2 different lines from an output that contains two words. Why does this does not work? :: aptitude show x11-common x264 | grep -i 'Package|Version'
[14:07] <c4pt> anyone know how to disable plymouth in init.d ?
[14:08] <auk> Pici, ok thanks! and is it advisable to restart or at least log out/in after changing it?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> DynamicFail: that thing just makes a .desktop for the script then puts it in there (to my knowledge), if you make the folder, it should work
[14:08] <osse> korsakof, use \|
[14:08] <Pici> auk: I'd definitely re-login.
[14:08] <deneb> Sidewinder1: i realy don't know even me :/ sometimes only firefox, some others watching a movie....it's so randomly
[14:08] <DeadmanIncJS> are the servers for Update Manager down?  I've tried both the main server and whatever the other setting was, and it's not downloading
[14:08] <DeadmanIncJS> keeps saying "failed to fetch files, check internet connection"
[14:08] <korsakof> osse: Nice! Thanks!
[14:09] <DasEi> c4pt: you can disable it in grub, else gotto modify initramfs
[14:09] <Sidewinder1> deneb, The "randomness" makes diagnosis almost impossible, :-(
[14:10] <DasEi> c4pt: edit /etc/default/grub as root, empty the splash setting to just "" remaining, safe, sudo update-grub
[14:10] <newc> so nobody is proposing a posible solution for not having recognised a network hardware in compaq 6310 by natty
[14:10] <Sidewinder1> deneb, There are various error logs that can be checked, but I'm not sure which ones, or where they're found; but it's a starting point.
[14:11] <DasEi> deneb: /var/log/sylog , kernlog .. look around there
[14:11] <Sidewinder1> I knew someone else would know! :-)
[14:11] <korsakof> osse: the escape character! shame on me! :) thanks again!
[14:11] <deneb> Sidewinder1: have you ever got a kernel panic? i mean...is that frequent?
[14:12] <Sidewinder1> deneb, Never...Side knocks wood.
[14:12] <auk> Pici: hmm actually it seems you can't change it while logged in so... do i need to elevate another account to sudo-privileges to do this?
[14:12] <c4pt> DasEi, im not using grub
[14:12] <DasEi> deneb: not really, either bad hardware(or exotics), mostly bad configuration, when did the last occur ?
[14:12] <c4pt> DasEi, should i just pass the "text" flag to kboot ?
[14:13] <DasEi> c4pt: idk kboot
[14:14] <sime> When http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/Archive-Update-in-Progress-syowa.canonical.com file exists, is possibly not the best time to do a do-release-upgrade ?
[14:14] <deneb> DasEi: yesterday was the last time... but i don't know where to look up for the issue...
[14:14] <DasEi> c4pt: their wiki :  kboot uses a boot loader like LILO or GRUB to load a regular Linux kernel as its first stage
[14:14] <osse> korsakof, you could use grep -p which uses perl-like syntax. but the manpage says it's experimental
[14:14] <c4pt> DasEi, yeah petitboot
[14:15] <DasEi> deneb: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[14:15] <DasEi> deneb:  pastebinit /var/log/kernlog
[14:16] <DasEi> deneb:  give resulting urls from terminal here
[14:16] <acnot> Hi there all in Ubuntu land.
[14:17] <ogzy>  i installed 10.04 (kubuntu) from alternate cd with disk encryption, when i try to add a network printer from the web, the step never comes to the driver selecgtion part always looping between Connection and then Name, description entrance, any idea?
[14:18] <acnot> Say how do I move the window title buttons from right to left on the Dust Sand theme?
[14:18] <Pici> !controls | acnot
[14:18] <PlaneMad> how do i change the default os in grub? using ubuntu11. the startup manager app doesnt work anymore
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ogzy: are you fully updated?
[14:18] <taowa> how do i get ann account for irc
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !regster | taowa
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !register
[14:18] <acnot> Pici I want them on the left
[14:19] <deneb> DasEi: i'm on fedora now...but even here i get kernel panic....do you interested to see the logs on fedora?
[14:19] <Pici> acnot: Oh. I see. One moment.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> acnot: just reverse the entry....
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> deneb: is the RAM healthy?
[14:20] <DasEi> deneb: makes too less sense
[14:20] <korsakof> osse: It comes a time in a man life where he needs to face the evidence: I need to learn perl! :)
[14:20] <DasEi> PlaneMad: you mean which entry get's picked ?
[14:20] <deneb> ActionParsnip: maybe i should make a ram check?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> deneb: makes sense to me :)
[14:21] <DasEi> deneb: yes
[14:21] <Pici> acnot: You'll need to play with the order of this: gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string "menu:minimize,maximize,close
[14:21] <osse> korsakof, haha, nah! But I do like that type of regex syntax, which is more or less the same as what Python and PHP uses.
[14:21] <acnot> Sorry ActionParsnip I don't know what you mean
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Pici: smoooth
[14:21] <deneb> ActionParsnip: from the live CD right?
[14:21] <acnot> Ar cool Pici thanks
[14:21] <DasEi> deneb: if no avail, try another kernel
[14:21] <acnot> !
[14:21] <Ste> Is there anyway i can get rid of these files that appear in my pictures and music files, which are thumbs.db, ehthumbs.db, and desktoi.ini?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> deneb: the installed OS has a RAM tester
[14:21] <deneb> ActionParsnip: nice...how i can do that test from here
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> deneb: hold shift at boot, select it
[14:22] <Pici> acnot: Just don't forget the closing double quote at the end like I did.
[14:22] <deneb> ActionParsnip: ok...thnx guys...i 'll check it
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Ste: if they are in a Windows OS partition, they will be regenrated when you next access the folder
[14:22] <DasEi> deneb: maybe ask in #fedora, as the basics might be similar, never will the detail be ?
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> deneb, I believe it's "memtest".
[14:22] <archuser2> hi everybody. Can I make USB loadable distro using something like sudo dd if=ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4096?
[14:23] <PlaneMad> DasEi: ubuntu is default. i want it switched to win7. i used the startup manager before to change this. but now although i have change the settings in the startup manager, the order at boot is the same
[14:23] <Ste> yeah its shared with windows 7. all my files are on a seperate partition
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: the ubuntu iso won't work like that, you need unetbootin or usb-creator
[14:23] <DasEi> archuser2: use unetbootin, dd only woks for some isos
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Ste: then they will be recreated next time you access the files
[14:23] <archuser2> hmm
[14:24] <Ste> can you niot hide them?
[14:24] <archuser2> is there a way to do it using some default shell commands instead of gui apps?
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Ste: you prefix with a . in linux to hide, windows will just make another as the filename doesn't exist
[14:24] <DasEi> PlaneMad: /etc/defaulTgrub, there is a line saying default and then a number, that's the counter for grub's entries (though might change again after a kernel-update)
[14:24] <DasEi> /etc/default/grub
[14:25] <Cmpax> hello
[14:25] <MK``> Is it possible to add another panel when using Unity?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/21303/create-usb-installer-from-the-command-line
[14:25] <archuser2> <3
[14:26] <archuser2> lol grub on usb :D
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> archuser2: there is the 1 2 3 app from pendrivelinux too
[14:26] <PlaneMad> DasEi: it says grub default=6, but where do i find the listing?
[14:26] <DasEi> archuser2: you can, but why ? unetbootin rruns fine , both linux and win
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: the default number in /etc/default/grub doesn't honour changes when new kernels are added
[14:28] <DasEi> PlaneMad:either at startup (left shift) or in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> PlaneMad: http://saji89.wordpress.com/2010/02/01/how-to-make-windows-the-defaultfirst-entry-in-your-grub2-menu/
[14:28] <archuser2> DasEi, oh come on, if you can do it without installing anything, why should I install it? I don't believe that I'll be using it every day.
[14:28] <DasEi> PlaneMad: saw ActionParsnip's comment above ? even better then
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> PlaneMad: the order is dictated by the number of the filename in grub.d
[14:29] <rileyp> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d9315fb5c5cf0dee78331192d7d83a52c69739cb  no default sound device
[14:29] <rileyp> alsamixer wont run
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> rileyp: use: http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2010/05/02/upgrade-alsa-1-0-23-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/   get lib, driver and utils to 1.0.23
[14:30] <DeadmanIncJS> i'll try this again...
[14:30] <Salih-k> DasEi: tanks for your attention i finally manage to access to wifi. The problem was that i couldnt make good installation.
[14:30] <PlaneMad> ActionParsnip: so i shall trust you that by running those commands nothing evil will happen to my system? i have a terrible history with ubuntu :)
[14:30] <DeadmanIncJS> why wouldn't I be able to download updates?  says fail to retrieve updates, check internet connection
[14:31] <taowa> how do i get a cloak
[14:31] <DasEi> !jay|Salih-k:
[14:31] <onetwo> DeadmanIncJS, firewall??
[14:31] <compdoc> cloak?
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> it's worked flawlessly
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[14:31] <DasEi> !yay|Salih-k:
[14:31] <taowa> how do i get a cloak
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> i use the program
[14:31] <onetwo> cloak like froda has in lotr??
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> !cloak
[14:31] <DeadmanIncJS> i dont know linux commands
[14:31] <DasEi> compdoc: ask in #freenode
[14:31] <taowa> !cloak
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> taowa: or become a member
[14:31] <cdavis> I am getting a bunch of 404 errors on http://security.ubuntu.com, is anyone else getting these?
[14:32] <Pici> !pamerror | cdavis
[14:32]  * ActionParsnip wafts his members cloak :)
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> i can try the manual way if somebody gives me the commands :)
[14:32] <rileyp> Action ok Ill try thnaks
[14:32] <compdoc> DasEi, you got the wrong person
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: I gave the command already....
[14:32] <cdavis> Pici: Thank you
[14:32] <rileyp> ActionParsnip:  thanks Ill try
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> oh, i must've missed it
[14:32] <taowa> 1cloak
[14:32] <DeadmanIncJS> hang on
[14:32] <onetwo> someone knows why i cannot reach server.alteriw.net??from internet its available but from my line it worked for 2 days now the tracert stops somewhere in the middle
[14:32] <DasEi> compdoc: you asked about cloak, nor ?
[14:32] <compdoc> no
[14:32] <taowa> !cloak
[14:33] <DasEi> (03:32:30 PM) compdoc: cloak?
 how do i get a cloak  <compdoc> cloak?
[14:33] <DasEi> compdoc: ic, sorry
[14:33] <DeadmanIncJS> says the same thing
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: can you pastebin the text please
[14:34] <DasEi> taowa: join #freenode, they can help you there
[14:34] <onetwo> oh i see that the server is again available now on my side so forget my question :d
[14:34] <ichigo79> salve
[14:34] <DeadmanIncJS> haha, umm...
[14:34] <DeadmanIncJS> :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:35] <DeadmanIncJS> how?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[14:35] <DeadmanIncJS> ah
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: try asking what you need instead of nonesense and smileys, it moves things along faster
[14:36] <DeadmanIncJS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/615343/
[14:37] <maiconlp> hello everyone,
[14:37] <Pici> !pamerror | DeadmanIncJS
[14:38] <maiconlp> I just solved ( about solve ) my problem with Display
[14:38] <DeadmanIncJS> ooh ok
[14:38] <DeadmanIncJS> that makes sense
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> DeadmanIncJS: seems to be dns related. I get archive.ubuntu.com resolving to <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:39] <mikehh> hi, just tried to do an update (via update-manager) - failed with some pam modules
[14:39] <DeadmanIncJS> cool, not just me
[14:39] <Pici> !pamerror | mikehh
[14:39] <Pici> ActionParsnip: Please look at the factoid I just called as well.
[14:39] <maiconlp> so... when I reboot may notebook... the display  come back the old configuration 1024x788...
[14:39] <fist> hey, is the desktop-shortcut (SUPER+d) gone? using ubuntu 11.04, unity
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> fist: shouldn't be, you can re-enable it easily though
[14:40] <maiconlp> how I can save reach the same Display configuration ?
[14:41] <Sidewinder1> Pici, Even if you put the pamerror in the topic, most would miss it... :-(
[14:41] <Pici> Sidewinder1: Which is why I haven't :/
[14:41] <maiconlp> why when I reboot may notebook it lost the display configuration
[14:41] <maiconlp> ?
[14:41] <mikehh> ubottu: hmm, I updated already on Kubuntu 11.04 amd64, this was on Ubuntu 11.04 i386 - is this likely to cause any problems?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: what video chip?
[14:42] <maiconlp> a moment
[14:42] <fist> ActionParsnip: i can not find an option under "keyboard shortcuts".. where do you think i can re-enable it?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> fist: not sure dude, i use lxde these days. Let me websearch
[14:43] <Salih-k> I dont know Do you encounter same problem as i have, the upper menu is not fit is there anyway to align to the left. I mean that for example i opened pidgin and want to access its setting the menu on the upper toolbar when i put my pointer there i see buddies accounts  bla bla... But under that i see the writing pidgin also. I dont want to see it it should write only the pidgins menu. I dont know did i tell right.
[14:43] <Guest62386> any1 use btrfs system + incremental backup ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> fist: gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/show_desktop "<Super>d"
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[14:44] <maiconlp> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> fist: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1154697.html
[14:44] <gbjk> Hello. I've changed my monitor setup using nvidia-xsettings. I'm running Natty but with gnome2. Since then, my top panel no longer shows top left notification stuff (date time/ubuntu one/logout/etc). I've done a kill gnome-panel, but that hasn't helped.
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> maiconlp: you could add a startup item to use xrandr to set the res
[14:45] <gbjk> (When the panel comes back, it's still missing.
[14:45] <gbjk> What should I try now?
[14:45] <maiconlp> what is xrandr ?
[14:45] <DynamicFail> is SUID == SETUID... I'm trying to remember how I changed the permissions of a bash script to run with sudo level privileges
[14:46] <wepete> Just ran an update for my 8.04 and was told that 3 pam updates failed to download due to a 404 Not Found [IP <IP_ADDRESS> 80]  Has anyone else gotten this?
[14:46] <gbjk> DynamicFail: First bit of mode. 4 = suid, so prolly 4755 or something.
[14:46] <Pici> !pamerror | wepete
[14:46] <gbjk> maiconlp: x resize and rotate. man xrandr.
[14:47] <wepete> Thank you much ubottu!
[14:47] <Pici> wepete: anytime
[14:47] <fist> ActionParsnip: the command from the link does not work.. but there is something like a bind to show the desktop .. it just works different then before
[14:48] <superproxy> hey, what's this bind security update?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> fist: Open ccsm/general options/keybindings
[14:50] <fist> "hide all normal windows and set focus to the desktop" is bindet to super+d
[14:50] <gbjk> Hello. I've changed my monitor setup using nvidia-xsettings. I'm running Natty but with gnome2. Since then, my top panel no longer shows top left notification stuff (date time/ubuntu one/logout/etc). I've done a kill gnome-panel, but that hasn't helped, when the panel comes back, it's still missing. What should I try next?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> fist: set it to something, then set it back. May help
[14:50] <fist> but f.e. the windows in fullscreen-mode are not hidden
[14:50] <Pici> superproxy: See: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.1  - also, you may want to consider installing apt-listchanges if you want to see changelogs before you install updates.
[14:50] <superproxy> Pici: tnx
[14:51] <fist> ActionParsnip: the command is right and the bind does work - but it just do not hide maximized windows :/
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> fist: possibly a bug...
[14:52] <Janusman> anyone else having issues updating natty today?
[14:53] <fist> y ActionParsnip thank you anyway!
[14:53] <Pici> !pamerror | Janusman
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> fist: np man, compiz can be a real pain
[14:53] <Janusman> Pici: thanks
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> fist: i don't use it these days, life is so much simpler
[14:55] <gbjk> :o|
[14:55] <gbjk> meh, I guess i'll just gconf reset
[14:57] <iamviveksri> hello
[14:57] <Janusman> Pici: I'm using update manager though, it insists I need some updates that won't download.
[14:58] <ranjan> iamviveksri, hi :)
[14:58] <Pici> Janusman: Its the same thing, and those updates will continue to be blocked until they are fixed, which should be sometime soon.
[14:58] <Janusman> Pici: ok. thanks =) =)
[14:58] <iamviveksri> ranjan: hi
[14:58] <ranjan> iamviveksri, pm
[14:58] <cdavis> How can I install an i386 package on a 64bit system?
[14:59] <iamviveksri> i just managed to install ubuntu on acer 4820t so came back to say thanks to this forum
[14:59] <ranjan> iamviveksri, great
[14:59] <ranjan> iamviveksri, thats a good habbit :)
[14:59] <compdoc> cdavis, apt-get usually works
[14:59] <iamviveksri> ranjan thx
[14:59] <Guest6902> Hi, I'm having some issues with aptitude upgrade; it's giving me: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick-updates/main libpam0g i386 1.1.1-4ubuntu2.2
[15:00] <Guest6902>   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[15:00] <wendico> Hello, I want to plug, sync and manage my Nokia N70 with my ubuntu. What apps should i install?
[15:00] <iamviveksri> ranjan: how u pm here
[15:00] <DJones> !pamerr | Guest6902
[15:00] <cdavis> compdoc: Can I apt-get install a .deb directly like dpkg -i packagename.deb?
[15:00] <Sidewinder1> !pamerror | Guest6902
[15:00] <DJones> !pamerror | Guest6902
[15:01] <Pici> DJones: I just aliased !pamerr to the same factoid, for future reference.
[15:02] <DJones> Pici: Thanks, I'd hadn't quite noticed the full !trigger, that was just my mistake
[15:02] <Yearsofterror> How do i install flash? just got back to using  ubuntu :S
[15:02] <Guest6902> So I'm fine to ignore it and it'll sort itself out when the repaired package is availible?
[15:02] <Pokemon> download and install...
[15:03] <Yearsofterror> Well the download is a file type im new too
[15:03] <Sidewinder1> !flash > Yearsofterror
[15:03] <Yearsofterror> and there isnt an installer... i suppose im spoiled by windows
[15:03] <wendico> i pluged my phone to my ubuntu and i see nothing happend, i cant access to it. what should i do to manage and sync my phone?
[15:04] <nancy> http://xdcc.it/?hash=7c9c446da9f73eb75c42e20fd47f99e5
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> yeah that PM was useless
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> wendico: what phone? does it need any settings on the phone?
[15:04] <rsh> hello everyone
[15:04] <nancy> hi
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> Thanks for the help.......... as if
[15:04] <hans__> Hello everyone
[15:04] <Yearsofterror> this channel always blows for help
[15:04] <iamviveksri> i am using freenode ---can some1 plz guide me how to pm here
[15:04] <kuku> hi
[15:04] <kuku> I have a problem with avogadro, I cant run it as a normal user under linux properly - When I start it as a non root user, I cant see any atoms, and the terminal gives the error libpng warning: Ignoring attempt to set cHRM RGB triangle with zero area
[15:05] <kuku> I am running ubuntu 10.04 with avogadro 1.0 btw the one from the repository
[15:05] <rsh> ActionParsnip: how can I find out what application is using which port? I want to use tor, but I am getting some error.
[15:05] <openshell> kuku where you from
[15:05] <kuku> germany
[15:05] <Pici> rsh: sudo netstat -tanp
[15:05] <wendico> Hey ActionParsnip, i thinks does not need. It is symbian based (nokia n70 updated to las symbian) and i do see a change, my phone modem is detected and showed in the network icon. Nothing else i can see.  I like to manage contacts and messages especially and the access to the memory card
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> rsh: netstat -a    will show
[15:05] <rsh> okay
[15:05] <fonzie2kk> can i safly use "tune2fs -m /dev/sdx1" while the disk has content and allready is mounted?
[15:06] <iamviveksri> i am using webchat --can anyone guide me on how to pm
[15:06] <sipior> fonzie2kk: yes
[15:06] <fonzie2kk> sipior: ok. Thanks :)
[15:07] <tzink> hello all.  I've got a curious question: I'm currently running 10.10 with my bottom gnome panel replaced with AWN.  It looks like 11.04 upgrades gnome, will this conflict with my AWN setup?
[15:07] <rsh> okay, it says tcp is using 9050, now how do I make it to use for "tor"?
[15:07] <Pokemon> what does pm mean?
[15:07] <rsh> :D
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> private mail
[15:07] <rsh> private msg
[15:07] <compdoc> private message
[15:08] <Pokemon> thanks
[15:08] <compdoc> what does Pokemon mean?
[15:08] <openshell> rsh what was that command?
[15:08] <Pokemon> guess
[15:08] <oCean> compdoc: please stay on topic
[15:08] <rsh> openshell netstat -a
[15:10] <rsh> state = listen on 9050 port
[15:10] <hans__> Hey guys, i installed KDE-standard but now when i try to remove it it dosent remove the KDE applications. Help?
[15:10] <DynamicFail> Can you use Cmnd_Alias on specific files?
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> hans__: it's because most kde apps can be used in gnome
[15:12] <ruadh> Hi! i have problem.  I have just installed ubuntu 10.04 and find things very slugush.  Is there  any way of puting this right?
[15:12] <LAcan> is there something wrong with this line in /etc/environment : "PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/home/poweruser/Documents"
[15:12] <hans__> MonkeyDust: OK, that sucks. now i have to remove them individually :(
[15:12] <beli> hans__: maybe removing kdelibs helps
[15:13] <beli> hans__: cause the apps depend on them
[15:13] <Milossh> BluesKaj, thanks for audio help. It solved it
[15:13] <hans__> Beli: nah, i use KDENLIVE.. :(
[15:14] <hans__> ruadh: yea log in in classic gnome :D
[15:14] <Milossh> I have only one more question: how do I set my preferred browser on gnome-session on 11.04, when it's not available in the dropdown
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Milossh, good :)
[15:14] <mikeconcepts> libpam related updates not available for download?
[15:14] <Pici> !pamerr| mikeconcepts
[15:14] <beli> hans__: so use some regular expression to match all installed ^k.*  apps...verify the result and remove them ;)
[15:14] <hans__> beli:good idea
[15:15] <hans__> beli:thanks
[15:15] <mikeconcepts> Pici, wow yer fast, thanks
[15:15] <Pici> mikeconcepts: no problem
[15:15] <ruadh> hans_ how do i do that?
[15:15] <blueonyx> hi, i have a 3ware raid6 were one drive got degraded today and 2 others got removed from the unit, there was no error about these two, but my raid is inoperable now, any pointers how to get the last 2 up again?
[15:15] <LAcan_> how can I add a directory to $PATH ? i tried adding it to /etc/environment but it didnt take
[15:16] <_Lucifer> other than maybe the disk space they take up, is there any downside to installing all the available desktop environments and switching between them on my whims?
[15:16] <peterkirn> Getting jumpy polling from a Logitech G9 mouse (on Ubuntu only; fine on Mac OS X and Windows as near as I can tell.) It'll spontaneously read positions from 300px away, regardless of sensitivity settings. Anything to adjust polling-wise? lubuntu natty
[15:17] <sipior> blueonyx: to clarify, the raid is missing three elements, or two?
[15:17] <blueonyx> sipior: 3 now
[15:18] <sipior> blueonyx: raid6 can tolerate the loss of only two elements, i'm afraid
[15:18] <kuku> Can anyone help me with running avogadro as a non root user? It doesnt show any atoms and seems to be a problem with permissions
[15:19] <edbian_> LAcan_: Did you already get an answer?
[15:19] <LAcan_> edbian, no...
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: PATH=$PATH:/some/new/path/
[15:20] <rsh> I haven't got mine yet
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: You can look at it using echo $PATH
[15:20] <LAcan_> edbian_, ya bt id like it to be permanet
[15:20] <edbian_> LAcan_: ahhh, hang on
[15:20] <sipior> LAcan_: was it your intent to set the variable for all users, or just yourself?
[15:21] <rsh> if it says tcp is using port 9050, how do I make it to use by tor?
[15:21] <edbian_> LAcan_: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
[15:23] <tarzeau> the security mirror has a problem right now?
[15:24] <Pici> !pamerr | tarzeau
[15:24] <edbian_> LAcan_: Helpful?
[15:24] <tarzeau> ubottu: indeed.
[15:25] <tarzeau> i was able to do 3 automatic network installs, and now the last two fail
[15:25] <LAcan_> edbian_, yes ty!
[15:25] <edbian_> LAcan_: sure
[15:25] <spliffi> #ubuntu fr
[15:25] <blueonyx> sipior: yea, thats my problem, but i dont think the 2 other drives are also dead, they just got kicked out of the unit. is the only way to add them again a rebuild?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> spliffi: tapez /j #ubuntu-fr
[15:26] <sipior> blueonyx: drives don't generally just get kicked out of an array. what happened to cause the problem?
[15:26] <spliffi> thanks monkeydust
[15:26] <Fonzieftw> what user does samba normally run on? Need to grant write permission to a folder, so samba users can write to it.
[15:26] <blueonyx> sipior: an power on reset on one port
[15:26] <LAcan_> Fonzieftw, u need to add a UID and GID line to fstab i think
[15:27] <DynamicFail> How can I change the permissions on a single program to run with root privlages
[15:27] <Fonzieftw> LAcan_: I can just chmod 775 to the folder, and add the samba deamon user to the owner group, cant i?
[15:27] <tarzeau> DynamicFail: which program?
[15:27] <edbian_> DynamicFail: What program is it?  Why does it need to run as root?
[15:27] <LAcan_> Fonzieftw, thats  hack
[15:27] <LAcan_> a hack
[15:28] <compdoc> anyone use nut and an apc ups? upsmon mentions /etc/killpower, but there is no such file
[15:28] <LAcan_> ur better off adding the GID to fstab for the group you want to write
[15:28] <sipior> blueonyx: you said this was a hardware raid?
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> hi
[15:28] <ranjan> DynamicFail, you should use SUID for this
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> it seems the lucid security repo is broken
[15:28] <Gump> #ubuntu, I am having a problem with the package flashplugin-nonfree. it is performing extremely poorly on my computer, to the point of making any browser it runs in unresponsive. i have also tried installing flashplayer from the adobe website, with the same result. anyone have a suggestion?
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> missing pam packages
[15:28] <DynamicFail> tarzeau, edbian_ it is a program that starts my mpegencoder. Forwhatever reason it doesn't work unless I run it with sudo
[15:28] <blueonyx> sipior: yes 3ware 9650se
[15:28] <tarzeau> !pamerr pmjdebruijn
[15:28] <Pici> !pamerr | pmjdebruijn
[15:28] <edbian_> DynamicFail: You could use setUID or just sudo
[15:28] <pmjdebruijn> ah
[15:29] <sipior> blueonyx: 3ware usually provides a configuration facility at boot. can you access it?
[15:29] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Make the owner root and turn on the setUID bit.  Does that make sense?
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> tarzeau: ok, but should the sources been updated?
[15:29] <Pici> pmjdebruijn: It hasn't been fixed yet.
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> right
[15:29] <tarzeau> pmjdebruijn: i guess just wait until it works again
[15:29] <DynamicFail> edbian_, I'm not sure how to do that
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> I mean the Packages file? now the packages themselves
[15:29] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Which part?
[15:29] <blueonyx> sipior: i could try, but last time this thing wasnt of big help
[15:29] <pmjdebruijn> I can't update all the other packages ATM because the repo is broken
[15:29] <Gump> gnash is also essentially unusable. it is buggy and performs poorly as well. my system is obviously powerful enough to play flash videos
[15:29] <DynamicFail> edbian_, both
[15:29] <DynamicFail> :)
[15:30] <DynamicFail> It doesn't appear that I have setUID as an option
[15:30] <nikolaibo> www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info www.xxxlivecam.info
[15:31] <Gump> anyone?
[15:31] <tarzeau> Gump: i agree
[15:31] <edbian_> DynamicFail: to set the file as root:  sudo chown root /path/to/file
[15:31] <Gump> tarzeau, thanks, so helpful. dude, please don't tell me you just don't use flash
[15:31] <tarzeau> Gump: i just use flash with the binary flash player
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: gnash really is crap.
[15:32] <Gump> tarzeau, i agree, but so is flashplugin-nonfree
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: at least it works?
[15:32] <Gump> what do you mean the binary flash player
[15:32] <Gump> tarzeau, no it doesn't on my computer. gnash works better than the adobe flash player right now
[15:32] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter
[15:32] <tarzeau> Gump: the flashplugin-nonfree is the binary flash player
[15:33] <edbian_> DynamicFail: got that much?
[15:33] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:33] <tarzeau> Gump: what computer do you have? you use the flash player inside firefox?
[15:33] <DynamicFail> edbian_, yep
[15:33] <beli> edbian_: nerver use setuid/setgid if there is no other solution avaiable.......i recommend to use sudo...you can define users to be allowed to run programs...read the sudo manual
[15:33] <sipior> blueonyx: i'm not aware of another way to reconfigure the array. unfortunately, this is a hardware problem--you might try taking up contact with 3ware (or the folks who sold you the card).
[15:33] <Gump> tarzeau, so you've never encountered any serious performance issues? i have a gateway m-6850FX laptop, with a good graphics card and good drivers. flashplugin-nonfree is unusable from within the browser with hardware acceleration enabled and disabled
[15:34] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:34] <Sidewinder1> !repeat > champ
[15:34] <edbian_> DynamicFail: beli is advising we use sudo.  The difference is that if we use setUID any user will be allowed to run your program.  If we make people use sudo to run it only sudoers can run it.  It is your call.  Technically sudo is a more secure alternative
[15:34] <blueonyx> sipior: okay, thanks anyhow, will do so
[15:34] <tarzeau> Gump: no, it works fine here, on powerful machines with nvidia graphics cards, and also the binary nvidia graphics driver
[15:34] <samu3572> I lost my trash can after a partial update. How do I restore my trash can?
[15:34] <sipior> blueonyx: best of luck sorting things out
[15:34] <champ> Sidewinder1:thanks for ur advice
[15:35] <tarzeau> Gump: what about this? http://www.youtube.com/html5
[15:35] <Gump> tarzeau, what can i try? i've uninstalled and reinstalled the flashplugin. the funny thing is it worked fine at first. it just suddenly stopped working
[15:35] <Sidewinder1> Don't mention it.
[15:35] <DynamicFail> edbian_, I want anyone to be able to run this program
[15:35] <edbian_> Gump: Having more than one flash player installed can screw things up
[15:35] <DynamicFail> all it does is turn on my mpegencoder
[15:35] <tarzeau> Gump: try html5?
[15:35] <edbian_> DynamicFail: then sudo chmod 4744 /path/to/file
[15:35] <Gump> tarzeau, hold on, trying it
[15:35] <openshell> i have a dell vostro 3300 and want to improve on my security skills using blacktrack
[15:35] <openshell> what do i need
[15:35] <DynamicFail> edbian_, Thanks!
[15:36] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Test it, does it work?
[15:36] <Pici> openshell: We do not support backtrack here, please use their channel: #backtrack-linux
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> openshell:  never heard of blacktrack... you mean BackTrack?
[15:36] <champ> Sidewinder1:thanks for ur advice
[15:36] <champ> hi any way to receive twitter updates without loogin in twitter?
[15:36] <edbian_> DynamicFail: I think it might need to be 4755   (allowing others to execute) it's kinda tricky with setUID on
[15:36] <Gump> tarzeau, no good.
[15:36] <tarzeau> Gump: what browser?
[15:37] <tarzeau> Gump: it works nice here, without the flash player - i recommend google chrome
[15:37] <apporc> now there is a problem . apt-get for libpam on archive.ubuntu.com failed with 404 error
[15:37] <Gump> tarzeau, i am currently using chrome
[15:37] <oCean> !pamerr | apporc
[15:37] <tarzeau> Gump: chrome doesn't have webm support yet, i guess?
[15:37] <apporc> Thanks
[15:38] <Gump> tarzeau, i take that back. the html5 player works great
[15:38] <Gump> tarzeau, what does this mean? what can i do to get normal flash player working?
[15:38] <beli> DynamicFail: setuid/setgid apps are still a very nasty aim for unprivileged users to elevate privileges......allthough you dont need to seperate access for users, you should use sudo. you can define the app to be allowed to use by ALL users there too, but your security increases
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: html5/webm? it's much better especially on laptops/netbooks, where battery power is important
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: forget adobe flash, it'll fade away - i hope
[15:39] <edbian_> DynamicFail: Is it even working?
[15:39] <tarzeau> Gump: gnash is a dead project, since there's no free software to create flash media
[15:39] <DynamicFail> edbian_, trying it :)
[15:40] <Gump> tarzeau, naw dude. so, i've got youtube now, but what about flash games. what about porn websites?? it is of great urgency that i figure this out!
[15:40] <Pici> tarzeau, Gump: gnash is not a dead project.
[15:41] <Gump> but it is a sucky one
[15:41] <tarzeau> Gump: thehun works without flash
[15:41] <edbian_> DynamicFail: see what beli said?  he is correct
[15:41] <Gump> lol tarzeau ty
[15:41] <champ> !ubottu
[15:42] <Pici> Gump, tarzeau: This channel is supposed to be family friendly, can we keep the porn discussion out of here.
[15:43] <DynamicFail> beli, I don't know how to modify the sudoers file in a bash script
[15:43] <DynamicFail> I know how to chmod in a bash script
[15:43] <Gump> Pici, i kinda doubt anyone using irc hasn't been to one of the *chan sites or goatse lol
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> Im not sure the sudoers file is the kind of thing you want to be messing with in a script..  if you do.. be sure to make backupds.  You would most likely use sed/awk to alter the file as needed
[15:44] <tarzeau> Pici: of course
[15:44] <fazle> hi
[15:44] <fazle> I am new with ubuntu
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> a messed up sudoers file - can result in sudo not working. and would have to restort to a live cd  or recovery mode to fix it.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> DynamicFail, a script in sudoers ...scude the pun , but what are you trying to in sudoers ?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> to do
[15:45] <tarzeau> is the pamerr going to be fixed soon, or should i just go home?
[15:45] <fazle> I want to configure my my gmail, Hotmail and live accounts in ubuntu
[15:46] <fazle> Can anyone help me in this
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> fazle:  clarify what you mean. I just go to their web sites and they work fine.
[15:46] <tarzeau> fazle: in which mail program?
[15:46] <fazle> evalution mail
[15:47] <fazle> or any other mail client what I can install on ubuntu
[15:49] <DynamicFail> BlueKaj I have massive script that does a lot of setup to get a system to a state I like, including installing drivers (not in apt-get), creating folders, copying scripts, etc. One of my mpegencoder programs necessary to run requires it to be run with sudo. My master script trys to add a smaller script to the startup applications area. This smaller script calls that program that needs to run with sudo. So instead of changing the SUID on the whole .sh fil
[15:49] <DynamicFail> e I changed it just on the manufactured provided binary. The alternative was to have my master script modify the sudoers file to allow it to run with NOPASSWD (=scary) and then have my smaller script call the mpegencoder using sudo.
[15:49] <beli> DynamicFail: erm.....you just need to edit the sudoers file
[15:49] <BluesKaj> mail clients aren't worth the trouble unless you need high security ...gmail is a godend IMO :)
[15:49] <BluesKaj> godsend rather :)
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> DynamicFail:  you can NOT make a script suid
[15:49] <beli> DynamicFail: sudo /path/to/youreditor /etc/sudoers
[15:50] <edbian> DynamicFail: True, you can only make compiled binaries setUID.  I did not know that this target file was a script
[15:50] <beli> Dr_Willis: thats not what he is trying to do
[15:50] <tarzeau> fazle: evolution or thunderbird
[15:50] <edbian> DynamicFail: visudo -f /etc/sudoers
[15:50] <Pici> beli: No. You should use visudo to modify your sudoes file.
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> Im not clear on what hes doing really,,  ims till trying to figure out why a mpegencoder needs  sudo...
[15:50] <beli> Pici: right, right
[15:50] <Pici> beli: visudo respects $EDITOR
[15:51] <DynamicFail> I don't want to have the script run with root... just the binary called in the script
[15:52] <DynamicFail> call it "mpegEn"
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> You can set sudo to run a binary as root. and not ask for a password.
[15:52] <beli> DynamicFail: add sth like  %users     ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/yourscript             or /path/to/yourapp
[15:52] <tarzeau> fazle: in software-center
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> then the scriopt can call 'sudo whatever' and it will run that bianry as root.
[15:52] <edbian> DynamicFail: Then setUID will work on the binary.  The sudoers solution will also work
[15:52] <DynamicFail> What is wrong with having my master script simply do chmod 4755 /path/to/program/mpegEn
[15:52] <beli> DynamicFail: the script executes the called app as the user you invoked the script from....so it will work too
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> the suid bit is considered a huge security 'risk' and should only be used when absoultly no othe rway to do it..
[15:53] <edbian> DynamicFail: Then anytime anybody runs that program it will run as root.  You could use that to e.g. delete / rename system files
[15:53] <BluesKaj> DynamicFail, hmm, I wonder if adding the script paths to the sudoers nopassword string will work ..like /etci/nit.d/rc*d or whatever the.sh
[15:54] <lucidguy> ssh-Xforwarding-Virtualbox question.  I need to ssh into a remote box then su to another user and setup their virtualbox.  VirtualBox-OSE always complains "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." .. Work Around?
[15:55] <lucidguy> I ssh into their box as root initially with -X
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: when you ssh, do you add the -X option
[15:55] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: I'd add -C too (for compression), does the system you are connecting from have an X server running?
[15:55] <lucidguy> and the ssh_config allows xforwarding.  Its the switching user that stops me .. I can xforward with the original account I ssh with.
[15:56] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: Yes .. its an UbuntuDestop system
[15:56] <DynamicFail> beli, Dr_Willis What would be more risky... having a bash script that modifies the sudoers file or having a bash script that calls a binary within it that has been chmod to 4755
[15:56] <nithin935> podubuntu.blogspot.com
[15:56] <beli> DynamicFail: you dont modify the sudoers file from a script
[15:56] <WindowsMojave> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME
[15:56] <WindowsMojave> Why does it say 2.5 as the latest release? lol
[15:57] <DynamicFail> beli, then I guess the only way to make it work is the SUID change
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: if you ssh as the user you intend to use the x forwarding, instead of su-ing, does it work?
[15:57] <beli> DynamicFail: again: modify the sudoers file that way, that your users can execute the binary your shell script is executing
[15:57] <lucidguy> ActionParsnip: yes
[15:57] <Dr_Willis|2> DynamicFail:  what if some nasty user had that mencoder app save its 'output' to /dev/sda     - your system would be trashed.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> WindowsMojave: update the doc
[15:57] <Dulak> lucidguy: the quick fix is to use xauth and permit your remote machine full access to the display
[15:57] <beli> DynamicFail: if your shell script is run...its run under the actual user.......and this user is allowed to execute the binary then...
[15:57] <sipior> WindowsMojave: it doesn't actually say that.
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> lucidguy: sounds like a workaround to me :)
[15:57] <careyt> Hello, I need some help changing file permissions while using ubuntu live from a USB drive.
[15:57] <Dulak> lucidguy: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html
[15:58] <lucidguy> Dulak: thanks .. will look into it
[15:58] <careyt> I have a second USB drive plugged in and I want to run a jar file and it wont let me use it as an executable. how do I change the permissions for that as I'm not root on there
[15:58] <b__> Hi there: Is there any reason why I should install ubuntu 10.04 instead of 10.10?
[15:58] <Dr_Willis|2> carandraug:   you could run  java -jar /path/to/the/whatever.jar
[15:59] <studiomonitor> Yes
[15:59] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:   you could run  java -jar /path/to/the/whatever.jar
[15:59] <DynamicFail> I understand that risk, but I really don't want to have to manually change the suders file. If there is a way to append the needed line to the sudoers file in a bash script I would love to do it.
[15:59] <b__> studiomonitor, what?
[15:59] <careyt> already tried that, it isn't allowed
[15:59] <studiomonitor> b__ 10.4 is more stable
[15:59] <Dulak> b__: depends on what you are doing with the computer really.  I stay on LTS releases myself but I don't have to have all the latest stuff.
[15:59] <careyt> I tried to set permissions to let everyone run it as executable and it wont let me change it.
[15:59] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:   calling java directly dident work?
[15:59] <b__> studiomonitor, thanks, I didn't actually remember wich one I used to prefere.
[15:59] <careyt> yeah.
[15:59] <b__> prefer*
[15:59] <beli> DynamicFail:  the sudoers file is system wide? you alter it ONE time....and never touch it again if it works
[16:00] <careyt> it says it can't be run as an executable.
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> careyt: chmod +x file
[16:00] <careyt> can't chmod as I'm not root. how do I switch to root on a USB drive install
[16:00] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  that seems weird..  a jar isent really an executable..        if the thing is on a NTFS/fat filesystem you can tjust chmod it.. you need to copy it to a linux fs. or remounte the filesystem with the optiosn that will make Everything on the hd executable
[16:01] <b__> Dulak, I just want it to be fast and stable.
[16:01] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  so what FS is the hard drive in question using?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> careyt: if the file is owned b you, it doesn't need any extra permissions
[16:01] <careyt> fat32
[16:01] <studiomonitor> Did you know you guys are the chat room featured on my live stream at http://browntechx.com/live
[16:01] <b__> I'm using a dual core processor but I've had enough of 64 bits stuff.
[16:01] <Dulak> b__: stick to 10.04 for now then if you want stable
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> careyt: ahh, fat32 may make things annoying
[16:01] <careyt> *sigh*
[16:01] <b__> So I'm switching back to 10.04 32 bit.
[16:01] <ferengee> java -jar <jarfile>
[16:01] <Dr_Willis|2> careyt:  then you either remount it.. or copy it somewhere else..  I cant imagine why the java -jar foo.jar  would need to be executable
[16:01] <careyt> I'll try it again.
[16:02] <DynamicFail> beli, I understand this... but my masterscript is supose to be run once after a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04.
[16:02] <careyt> thank you guys. I may be back, I dunno.
[16:02] <b__> Thanks and goodbye.
[16:03] <beli> DynamicFail: sorry, i dont understand your scenario now anymore
[16:05] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor, Who am I?
[16:05] <phaidros> natty, compiz gets high load, how to prevent this?
[16:05] <phaidros> eek, compiz takle 2gb of memory !!!
[16:05] <phaidros> holy ...
[16:06] <lucidguy> Dulak: I can't get it to work even if I xhost + the system
[16:06] <phaidros> killing compiz leaves me with no usable X :p
[16:07] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor: So, who am I?..
[16:08] <m4xx> i'm trying to set up my kyocera fs-1128mfp printer via network. if i print small files it works just fine, but if i try to print this 3.7mb pdf the printer errors and the attention light starts blinking
[16:08] <Dulak> lucidguy: I use the xauth solution with the cookie myself, never tried xhost because it's a bad idea
[16:08] <m4xx> anyone know what might be going on?
[16:08] <lucidguy> Dulak: the problem is because I su to another user .....  I think thats what messes up X
[16:08] <yannorEC> #grass
[16:09] <lucidguy> Dulak: as stated before . .It works fine if I remote into the system and then launch a graphical app ... X forwards fine.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> m4xx: how much cache does the printer have?
[16:10] <Dulak> lucidguy: you have to do the xauth thing as the user that is running X, then put the cookie into the env of the user you su to
[16:10] <lov> Hi, I'm getting the following when I run apt-cache update
[16:10] <lov>  Failed to fetch http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[16:10] <m4xx> the web interface says it has 256mb memory
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lov: there are no more updates for Jaunty
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> lov: Jaunty is now EOL
[16:10] <Dulak> lucidguy: that should give the su user access to the other user's X
[16:10] <lov> ActionParsnip: thanks. What file do I modify to remove those sources from my list?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> lov: /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <lucidguy> Dulak: this xauth is a little over my head.. probably easier to just have the user login for me..
[16:11] <lov> ActionParsnip: thanks
[16:11] <lucidguy> Dulak: as in Im sure I can figure it out .. but not worth this one time thing.
[16:11] <m4xx> ActionParsnip, when i print to that same file to the same printer from a windows machine it seems to work just fine.
[16:12] <Dulak> lucidguy: that would fix it, if X runs as the user you need, no need to worry about xauth
[16:12] <nor_> hello
[16:12] <timtimtimtim> how can i modify the "selected" appearance in my gnome panel? http://postimage.org/image/2eg3jt4sk/
[16:12] <nor_> could someone help me whit the root system in linux??
[16:12] <Sidewinder1> studiomonitor, Although it's exceedingly slow today, your link to your live feed (which I think is really cool), would probably be better in #ubuntu-offtopic as I replied to you, twice and was concerned about being chastised for being off topic. Just a thought. :-)
[16:13] <lov> Another question: I'm now getting the following when running apt-cache update
[16:13] <lov> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_ubuntu_dists_lucid_partner_binary-amd64_Packages)
[16:13] <lov> I only see one entry for this in my sources.list file, however
[16:14] <nor_> could a "ubuntunderstand-er" help me in a question whit the root sistem in ubuntu??
[16:14] <aauthor_> Hey everyone.  In my htdocs directory I have a symbolic link to a folder in my home folder, but whenever I try access it (e.g. localhost/mylinkedfolder) it gives me a 403.  The mylinkedfolder has 777 permission, so I can't figure out what's up.
[16:15] <lov> I only see two "lucid partner" lines, for that matter; one is deb, the other is deb-src
[16:15] <TbHack> I downloaded the ubuntu 11 iso, now trying to install on vmware, however initramfs is giving an error, do I need something else before I can install on vmware?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> lov: you have the partner repo defined more than once, if you enabled it in sources.list, remove it in software centre
[16:16] <Dr_Willis|2> lov:  check the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory perhaps
[16:16] <lov> here is sources.list: http://privatepaste.com/c7eae0e465