[03:51] <Animortis> Ack. Then... Can anyone tell me how to allow access Ubuntu from an XP PC? I'm getting "...is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. ..."
[03:51] <bazhang> err rhombus I mean 64 and 64
[03:51] <AnthraxDream> Can anyone tell me why I can't hear anything?
[03:51] <tritium> s/duel/dual, Pickles.  (Unless the OSes are sword-fighting)
[03:51] <exile777> is there something to list all connected cd/dvd drives from the command line?
[03:51] <kalatian> rhombus: why wouldn't you use 64bit on a server, esp. if you need more then 4 gb of ram?
[03:51] <rhombus> bazhang: It's a Xeon
[03:51] <bazhang> AnthraxDream: not without any info no
[03:51] <amenado> tritium my experience has been, as long as in roaming mode, whatever settings i have in the interfaces file, get ignored, and it just choose to latch on to the strongest at the time i guess it scans..
[03:52] <Radit> amenado: how do you setup nm to connect to your prefered AP//?
[03:52] <bazhang> rhombus: is that dual core or quad core?
[03:52] <rhombus> kalatian: I can't support 4 GB of RAM with a 32 bit kernel?
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> Well I have esound installed
[03:52] <tritium> rhombus: npe
[03:52] <tritium> nope*
[03:52] <rhombus> bazhang: no, it's a garden variety
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> But nothing is coming out of my speakers
[03:52] <AnthraxDream> Anything else I would need to do?
[03:52] <kalatian> rhombus: up to 4, no more -- there might be a patch somewhere, I can't remember, that allows you to use 32bit and more ram
[03:52] <amenado> Radit-> i uncheck the roaming mode, then select the ESSD of the AP,
[03:52] <kalatian> rhombus: but just using 64bit is by far the easiest way, esp for a server
[03:52] <tritium> kalatian: no, 4 is the limit (2^32 is only so big)
[03:53] <rhombus> Does this mean that the entire system needs to be rebuilt?
[03:53] <bazhang> rhombus: or put the ram elsewhere
[03:53] <tritium> rhombus: you get support 4, but that's the limit.
[03:53] <amenado> Radit and add any additional things i may need in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:53] <kalatian> tritium: yeah -- I thought somewhere I saw something that would allow one to use more then 4gb of ram with 32bit, but maybe not :D
[03:53] <rhombus> I need the RAM, the thing is swapping 2 GB
[03:53] <tux97> do you use gtkpod for apple ipods?
[03:53] <rhombus> I'll use the 64 bit kernel if that's what's required
[03:53] <bazhang> tux97: the newest ones?
[03:54] <rhombus> what I'm more concerned about is that this is a production machine
[03:54] <Radit> amenado: where can i find those settings?
[03:54] <tritium> rhombus: if you need only 4GB, you can get by with a 32-bit system
[03:54] <amenado> kalatian->  i doubt it, as matter of fact, i think you're pretty much limited to 3gb..
[03:54] <tux97> the one before the newest ones i have photo/video 30 gb
[03:54] <rhombus> tritium: well, sadly, I need more
[03:54] <kalatian> rhombus: 64 bit is just as stable, if thats what your worried about
[03:54] <rhombus> kalatian: i'm not worried about stability
[03:54] <amenado> Radit-> if you man interfaces the different options are listed
[03:54] <tritium> Radit: those settings are in /etc/network/interfaces, but it's better to let network manager do the work for you
[03:54] <rhombus> kalatian: I'm worried about binary compatibility
[03:55] <crazy_elf> does anyone know what the best way to convert a folder full of songs to another format with ffmpeg?
[03:55] <kalatian> rhombus: x86_64 is backwards compatible with x86, so as long as you have the correct libs, everything should work
[03:55] <fk7_se> anybody use adsense??
[03:55] <Radit> amenado: man interfaces? sorry, i don't understand..
[03:55] <rhombus> kalatian: is there an upgrade path documented anywhere?
[03:55] <bazhang> tux97: you can try; if it does not work then you need libgpod 0.6.0 which is a few weeks away in Hardy unless you want to compile it for Gutsy
[03:55] <amenado> Radit-> on a terminal type  man interfaces
[03:55] <kalatian> rhombus: you have to reinstall to use 64bit afaik
[03:55] <bazhang> fk7_se: not reall an ubuntu question thanks
[03:55] <Ububegin> Hi guys, i found another cool software..which can do code folding... Its called *Geany* .. tks anyways
[03:56] <rhombus> kalatian: ****
[03:56] <yn> OK, I see. here's my problem: I setup a diversion for a package. the package has its own diversions when it installs, and its list doesn't include my diversion. It removes all of its "old" diversions (including the one that I setup for it) when it is attempted to be instaled
[03:56] <mike__>  dose  any one know any thing about the shared folder feture in Virtual box ?
[03:56] <mike__> all im trying to do is share my Linux HOME folder with XP
[03:56] <tux97> my gusty sees it but i dont see no songs on it in gtkpod dont see nothing in there how do u set it up in gtkpod bazhang?
[03:56] <kalatian> rhombus: if you're really bored and really good with linux, you *might* be able to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit, but I wouldn't try it :P
[03:56] <bazhang> tux97: I use amarok
[03:56] <kalatian> but I'm no expert by any means
[03:56] <mike__> i wanna know how i can brows a Network share i have Win Xp in virtualbox and C: mapped but ubuntu dont see it
[03:56] <crazy_elf> mike__, http://www.mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-5152.html
[03:56] <yn> The file that it's working against is just a symlink. Is there a way to setup a dpkg environment so that it just overwrites the file directly?
[03:56] <mike__> sweet :D
[03:57] <tux97> u use amarok for what bazhang?
[03:57] <yn> without using --force on dpkg? (this is run from a script that's generates on the fly, too hairy to look through)
[03:57] <busan> how to uese windows wine
[03:57] <bazhang> tux97: what was our topic of discussion?
[03:57] <busan> wine app?
[03:57] <crazy_elf> does anyone know how to batch convert a folder full of files?
[03:58] <kalatian> rhombus: tritium: here is what I was talking about: http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2005-August/022327.html
[03:58] <Radit> thanks guys..
[03:58] <tux97> gtkpod ipods
[03:58] <bazhang> yn: may as well uninstall the envy and the ati drivers and get them from the restricted drivers manager
[03:58] <Ububegin> woohoo,*geany* even has a terminal built into it.... woo hoo again... Goodbye VIM and GEdit , i reckon...
[03:58] <bazhang> busan what do you want to do
[03:58] <mike__> floola is better
[03:58] <mike__> for ipods
[03:59] <bazhang> floola is marginal
[03:59] <tux97> ok witch one should i use lol
[03:59] <mike__> try em both
[03:59] <rhombus> kalatian: I was sure that I could do up to 64 GB with a 32 bit kernel
[03:59] <bazhang> tux97: may as well try them all including amarok
[03:59] <yn> I've tried the version that's currently in RDM
[03:59] <tritium> kalatian: ah, sure enough
[04:00] <yn> Haven't been able to configure it with my hd
[04:00] <yn> erm
[04:00] <yn> hardware
[04:00] <busan> How to flood IP on my local network??
[04:00] <AgentHeX> i'm running gentoo on a box of mine, but the folks in #gentoo are less than responsive.  i'm having difficulty with a RAID-5 array i've set up with mdadm.  it appears that the chkfs init script tells me that /dev/md0 is an invalid e2fs filesystem, so it tries to recover the journal, but when it tries, it throws a machine check exception and reboots.
[04:00] <bazhang> busan that sounds wrong
[04:00] <yn> whereas the version that came with envy (before this one) worked, but with glitches.
[04:00] <kalatian> !hack
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hack - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <YeaSt> hello
[04:00] <crazy_elf> busan, why would you want to do that...?
[04:01] <tritium> busan: that's offtopic, anyway.
[04:01] <busan> What? must be?
[04:01] <bazhang> AgentHeX: switch to ubuntu then we can talk--- www.ubuntu.com is a good place to start ;]
[04:01] <busan> my conection so slow
[04:01] <teddy> lol... hes in the ubuntu channel but not using ubuntu?
[04:01] <AgentHeX> bazhang: i'd like to, but i want to make sure i won't lose 733GB of data in the process.
[04:01] <Wolf23> bruenig:  hello friend, but sorry for asking this important question, i have a folder VIDEO_TS and there is in it files .VOB how cn i burn thsis to a dvd movie please
[04:01] <tux97> mike__ floola doesn't show up
[04:01] <YeaSt> has anyone tried rhythmbox with mp3 file?
[04:01] <tritium> YeaSt: sure
[04:01] <tritium> !mp3 | YeaSt
[04:01] <ubotu> YeaSt: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <mike__> i belive u need to google it
[04:02] <busan>  oh, sory
[04:02] <AgentHeX> !mdadm
[04:02] <robc4> Yeast, you need to install other software
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <crazy_elf> !floola
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floola - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:02] <rhombus> tritium: http://www.linux.com/feature/119287
[04:02] <tritium> !botabuse
[04:02] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[04:02] <busan> to run windows app. on linux?
[04:02] <mike__> http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=download_linux
[04:02] <bazhang> mike__: google it is not a good answer; if you dont know then you dont know; someone else may ;]
[04:03] <mike__> better :p
[04:03] <bazhang> busan please specify; what windows app
[04:03] <robc4> is the medibuntu repo up for hardy yet?
[04:03] <tritium> robc4: #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[04:03] <busan> my local app, with extension .exe
[04:03] <yn> weird, it just worked, identical commands as before
[04:03] <YeaSt> the question is I have installed ubuntu-restricted-extra, but rhythmbox still could not play the music
[04:04] <busan> likely translator language
[04:04] <robc4> Yeast, you need gstreamer-0.10-ugly
[04:04] <tux97> mike__ got screenshots for the floola?
[04:04] <bazhang> busan what specific app please
[04:04] <mike__> nope
[04:04] <busan> macromedia dreamweaver
[04:04] <YeaSt> I have installed that
[04:05] <tritium> robc4: ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on that
[04:05] <busan> I can't use amaya
[04:05] <teddy> which version? dreamweaver 8 can run in wine
[04:05] <mike__> tux97 i used floola in windows .. im now installing it in ubuntu as well
[04:05] <bazhang> busan your best bet would be to read through the winehq appdb and see how well those work
[04:06] <busan> all windows aplication can run in ubuntu?
[04:06] <bazhang> busan no of course not
[04:06] <Flannel> busan: not all, but wine does a fairly good job.
[04:06] <tux97> i see mike__ i installed it but i dont see nothing in the gui lol
[04:07] <mike__> - LINUX REQUIREMENTS:
[04:07] <mike__> Floola requires gstreamer or xine to be installed in order to playback music and videos.
[04:07] <mike__> x64 users should refer to online troubleshooting documentation in case of issues on startup.
[04:07] <busan> thank you very much:-D
[04:07] <robc4> tritium, I had the same problem as Yeast. I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and rythmbox still didnt play mp3's
[04:07] <bazhang> tux97: does floola have some docs you can read? best to read them first
[04:07] <robc4> there is one more package you have to install, but I cant remember what it was exactly
[04:08] <tux97> i'm looking i think i d/led the wrong thing i think i got the extras lol
[04:08] <robc4> I wonder if I experienced an anomoly
[04:08] <mike__> tux97 did u do apt-get install floola ?
[04:08] <robc4> I would imagine there would be a massive bug report if all systems acted like mine
[04:08] <vehicle> is there cons using lilo insteat of grub?
[04:09] <tux97> yes where it says for ubuntu users
[04:09] <c_pinky> HY
[04:09] <pestilence> is there a way to disable showing of icons on the desktop?
[04:09] <homosaur> vehicle: it's pretty much whatever you like more, they both work a lil differently
[04:09] <tux97> oops wrong one i did i think it was something esle
[04:09] <tux97> lool
[04:09] <YouKnowMe> How can I make a program I started in a terminal, run in the background so I can close the terminal?
[04:09] <eros> :o)
[04:10] <Cpudan80> YouKnowMe: program &
[04:10] <Cpudan80> As far as I know you have to restart it
[04:10] <crdlb> YouKnowMe: if it's already running, Ctrl+Z then bg
[04:10] <abo> can anyone point me to a good beginner article/tutorial about developping C++ in linux, I'm interested in learning the basics (specially how you used the debugger and make file ) I have prior knowledge in C++ as a language, but always used Visual Studio under windows
[04:10] <Cpudan80> oh
[04:10] <Cpudan80> interesting
[04:10] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup. i am using kde
[04:10] <crdlb> followed by disown for completeness
[04:10] <tux97> mike__ couldn't find it
[04:10] <Cpudan80> I didn't know that
[04:10] <YouKnowMe> crdlb bg?
[04:10] <crdlb> background
[04:10] <pestilence> YouKnowMe: look into gnu screen
[04:10] <crdlb> fg will return it to the foreground
[04:11] <Pickles> Im trying to install a flash player for ubuntu 7.04 and I can't get it to work, any ideas?
[04:11] <mike__> tux97 well i missed the last bit of the page sudo apt-get install libnotify-bin
[04:11] <mike__> hehe
[04:11] <YouKnowMe> oic, Hmm I'll try that thanks!
[04:11] <pestilence> YouKnowMe: or, start it with an &
[04:11] <robc4> ahh, got it. Yeast, installed w32codecs from Medibuntu
[04:11] <tux97> did that mike__
[04:12] <robc4> *install
[04:12] <robc4> Yeast : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[04:12] <Pickles> Should I download a .tar.gz , .rpm , or YUM upgrade for my flash player?
[04:12] <eros> can some i tell me how i can tell if i need to black list a defalt wifi driver
[04:12] <YouKnowMe> Well ctrl+z worked just fine! Thanks! Thats one to remember.
[04:12] <tritium> robc4: that's unrelated
[04:12] <robc4> how so?
[04:12] <HorizonXP> I'm on a campus residence network that assigns IPs by DHCP. Their DNS server dies all the time, so I'd like to use a free one. How would I specify a static DNS server?
[04:12] <Pickles> Any ideas?
[04:13] <robc4> it is in the help file on how to play mp3's in rhythmbox
[04:13] <busan> where im get tutorial kompoZer?
[04:13] <vehicle> is there a diference in using lilo vs grub when my server is dedicated to ubuntu server?
[04:13] <pestilence> HorizonXP: how about just running your own?
[04:13] <HorizonXP> pestilence: errr.... I think the Reznet gods would frown on that
[04:13] <homosaur> this is not a WHAT IS THE BEST DISTRO question, but are there any distos out there that are specifically aimed at developers?
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: why?
[04:14] <tritium> robc4: I guess you're right.  I've never neded that.  I guess that's why it says "some mp3 files..."
[04:14] <tritium> homosaur: not really.  Each distro needs them.
[04:14] <HorizonXP> pestilence: also, it's my main school laptop, don't want to bog it down; because servers are not allowed on the network
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: don't run a dhcp server...and don't allow incoming dns requests...
[04:14] <zalker> Ubuntu gnome is the greatest for me
[04:14] <CVD-PR> Hey this happend when i log on everytime: "There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Deamon"
[04:14] <abo> can anyone point me to a good beginner article/tutorial about developping C++ in linux, I'm interested in learning the basics (specially how you used the debugger and make file ) I have prior knowledge in C++ as a language, but always used Visual Studio under windows
[04:14] <mike__> tux97 ive got no idea im still n00b
[04:14] <HorizonXP> pestilence: ok, that makes a bit of sense, but how would I populate it?
[04:14] <pestilence> HorizonXP: servers are not allowed to *listen* on the network, for sure.  what could they care if you have one running for yourself
[04:14] <mike__> i dunno wtf that Cmd did ..
[04:15] <mike__> lol
[04:15] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: the same way all other dns servers populate :-D
[04:15] <HorizonXP> pestilence: hrm...... ok, I'm intrigued. Links?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: sudo aptitude install bind9
[04:15] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:15] <pestilence> HorizonXP: then vim /usr/share/doc/bind9/...
[04:16] <pestilence> (don't know of any links other than that)
[04:16] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Oh yeah, I have a 500 MB download limit... is this going to go above that by populating the DNS
[04:16] <bazhang> abo do you have anjuta?
[04:16] <busan> where im got tutorial kmpozer or amaya?
[04:16] <pestilence> HorizonXP: no.
[04:16] <pestilence> HorizonXP: it's not going to lookup names unless you request it
[04:16] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Nice, I like. I'm installing now.
[04:17] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Except that I still need to rely on the campus DNS server to let me download this..... vicious circle! lol
[04:17] <vehicle> i just installed ubuntu server and now i want to install samba can anyone give me any help, i know its on the cd, i just didnt install it with the load
[04:17] <artfullylost> So, would Kubuntu or Ubuntu be a better bet for a newcomer?
[04:17] <pestilence> HorizonXP: haha, but that's a catch in any potential solution
[04:17] <CVD-PR> Hey this happend when i log on everytime: "There was an error starting the Gnome Settings Deamon"
[04:17] <CVD-PR> ?
[04:18] <bazhang> artfullylost: matter of taste really check out screenshots on their homepages or via distrowatch.com
[04:18] <HorizonXP> pestilence: touché, I'm just lamenting.
[04:18] <abo> bazhang, I've seen it before, I don't have it installed at the moment, but I had the impression that Anjuta generates the Makefile for you,.. I don't want that, I'd like to learn the basics behind.. and then once I'm comfortable with it, I would start using Anjuta / Kdevelop or Eclipse/CDT
[04:18] <artfullylost> I mean, it's like a 5 minute operation to change them from one to the other anyway, right, bazhang?
[04:19] <robc4> Is there any way to control CPU fan speed on AMD CPU's? I am running 64 bit Ubuntu
[04:19] <bazhang> artfullylost: not quite that quick to download the entire desktop suite unless you have FiOS or something fast like that but fairly quick yeah
[04:19] <Nasra> Is there program to access my pc from anywhere within Ubuntu?
[04:20] <tritium> Nasra: ssh, for one
[04:20] <Nasra> ssh
[04:21] <Flannel> Nasra: yeah, it allows you to login via terminal from an arbitrary computer.  There are others for graphical things as well (and some of them traverse through ssh)
[04:21] <amenado> Nasra-> http is a form of access...is that what you meant?
[04:21] <Nasra> ok...that is good news
[04:21] <Nasra> yes
[04:21] <Nasra> let's say if I want to access my computer from another country or so...
[04:22] <HorizonXP> pestilence: so I'm looking at the documenation, and it seems out of the box, this bind9 will provide a "caching" schema
[04:22] <pestilence> HorizonXP: yea
[04:22] <Nasra> I got 3 good answers thanks guys...
[04:22] <amenado> Nasra-> you have to be clear with what you meant by access.. to interact or just knowing your pc is active?
[04:22] <pestilence> which actually reduces your footprint
[04:22] <HorizonXP> pestilence: how do I prevent incoming requests? Or do I not really have to worry, since my IP address really isn't broadcast...
[04:22] <YeaSt> amarok is so good, it plays my mp3 just after I installed it
[04:22] <Nasra> amenado
[04:22] <pestilence> HorizonXP: well, you should have a firewall, right?
[04:23] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Lol....
[04:23] <Nasra> to have access to my pc and work from faraway checking files emails, etc....
[04:23] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Firestarter? I hated that thing.... is there a better one?
[04:23] <ermali86> hello. can anyone tell me please how to make wlassistant to run as root at the startup. i am using kde
[04:23] <talcite> hey guys... does anyone know what's going on here? I put a link like www.google.ca into pidgin, and when I click on it... swiftweasel brings me to www.%u.com
[04:24] <talcite> it doesn't matter which link I put into pidgin, It always brings me to www.%u.com
[04:24] <Lleumas> Anyone have any clue as to how to get my video thumbnails back? I'm not sure, I installed xine avi, but still not luck.
[04:24] <busan> how to install kde dekstop from ubuntu command trow console
[04:24] <pestilence> HorizonXP: i don't know what the best gui firewall is these days.  shorewall is a good firewall, but it can be a pain to configure if you don't know what you are doing
[04:24] <bazhang> ermali86: what do you mean run as root; you want it to connect at startup or other
[04:24] <talcite> and ontop of that, I've seen it happen from other programs as well, not just piding
[04:24] <talcite> pidgin*
[04:24] <amenado> Nasra-> then you must have a server running on your pc..to service the type of access you need
[04:24] <HorizonXP> pestilence: wait, I'm on Hardy, and ufw is the new feature. Time to test it!
[04:24] <ChameleonDave> Hey, does anyone use Katapult?
[04:24] <bazhang> busan kubuntu-desktop is the package name
[04:25] <jrib> talcite: what does system -> preferences -> preferred applications have as your Web Browser *exactly*?
[04:25] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: do you have an issue with it?
[04:25] <busan> to change my gnome desktop to kubuntu?
[04:25] <Nasra> amenado....it's not a biggy thing ....it's just wanna interact with my pc from faraway....
[04:25] <bazhang> busan aye
[04:25] <tritium> busan: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <amenado> Nasra biggy or smally, same difference, you have to have a server running on your pc to service the type of access
[04:26] <talcite> jrib: argh! I JUST went to check that because it came to me as well lol
[04:26] <tritium> busan: then, you'll have both gnome and kde desktops to choose from
[04:26] <ermali86> bazhang: yes i want it to connect at startup
[04:26] <talcite> i have swiftweasel %u
[04:26] <Nasra> amenado ... I am new to linux....did not know it was good...just exploring from what I used to do in windows.....
[04:26] <busan> nice
[04:26] <jrib> talcite: see anything in common?  change %u to %s
[04:26] <talcite> jrib: heh. Thanks
[04:26] <busan> thanks
[04:27] <amenado> Nasra-> oh ubuntu can do a few more without costing you much..
[04:27] <talcite> ahh there we go
[04:27] <bazhang> ermali86: any reason not to use network-manager to do that?
[04:27] <talcite> all good. Thank you
[04:27] <ChameleonDave> Bazhang, yes, I used to use it just fine, but then I lost my /home/david partition, and when I created a new one, Katapult wasn't working.  I don't see why any user settings should be involved.  It's a program that should work for all users out of the box.
[04:28] <ermali86> bazhang: network manager keeps getting me problems and doesnt recognize my wireless card so i am bored with it
[04:28] <sk8ball> where can i adjust/view what the number of colors are that is being used for X... like 16bit, 32bit, etc...
[04:28] <Nasra> amenado...in windows spending to much money.....and stilll problem.....I've been forced to learn linux so I can run PBX
[04:28] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: you might want to check into #kubuntu from time to time as the maintainer of Katapult is sometimes on irc
[04:28] <HorizonXP> pestilence: what port am I blocking for DNS packets?
[04:29] <amenado> Nasra-> are you a telephony type of person?
[04:29] <ntorido> Is there a flash plugin for gimp ?
[04:29] <Nasra> yes man
[04:29] <tritium> sk8ball: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:29] <bazhang> ntorido: for what end?
[04:29] <sk8ball> tritium, so ubuntu has no gui solution ... just stuck with editing the config file?
[04:29] <Nasra> amenado....have to run the telephony under linux and chose Ubuntu
[04:29] <amenado> Nasra-> you'd have your pbx this side or at the far end?
[04:29] <jester7> are there a lot of issues with flash and java on the amd64 version of ubuntu?
[04:30] <pestilence> HorizonXP: 53
[04:30] <tritium> sk8ball: not specifically for changing the color depth, no
[04:30] <ChameleonDave> I'm not getting any response in #kubuntu
[04:30] <ce_chinnese> surabaya
[04:30] <Nasra> amenado.....you talking big time....(my language) correct
[04:30] <bazhang> jester7: flash seems to be an issue for some
[04:30] <tritium> sk8ball: it's too rare a task to bother, probably
[04:30] <leechy9> hey can any1 help me with the startup splash screen?
[04:30] <HorizonXP> pestilence: thanks!
[04:30] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: well then just be patient
[04:30] <Concretesledge> hello
[04:31] <pestilence> HorizonXP: np
[04:31] <sk8ball> thats what pisses me off about linux, and is exactly what is preventing widespread adoption ... too much is dependant about manual editing of config files .... i like to be able to edit them manually but i like to have access to a gui frontend as welll... really increases productivity
[04:31] <Concretesledge> im trying to install ubuntu, i have 3 IDE drives, hda hdb hdc
[04:31] <Nasra> amenado: I have not installed it yet ...cause have to learn how to run Ubuntu first
[04:31] <Zoris> leechy9: go into add/remove and install "spash screen"
[04:31] <amenado> Nasra the reason i asked, because those card that interface with local telco are not compatible in all countries, unless it is homolugated
[04:31] <bazhang> sk8ball: offtopic here thanks
[04:31] <Concretesledge> i want ALL 3 to be used for the installation, someone said somethinga bout LVM But i dont understand
[04:31] <leechy9> i can disable it at startup by deleting "ro quiet splash"
[04:31] <tritium> sk8ball: you're the first person I've seen ask to change the color depth in years
[04:31] <Zoris> splash screen*
[04:31] <ChameleonDave> Bazhang: Instead of being patient here, I'll just use the forums instead.  They are for non-instant help.
[04:31] <ntorido> So actually whats the best software  for developing flash in ubuntu?
[04:32] <bazhang> ChameleonDave: your choice--the maintainer will give you an instant answer when he is around
[04:32] <Nasra> amenado: are you familiar with pbx?
[04:32] <jester7> bazhang: ahh, so it's not just "broken"  it does work for some people
[04:32] <leechy9> no, its the bar at startup, i cant boot unless i always remove   ro quiet splash in the command line at the beginning
[04:32] <jester7> thats good to know
[04:32] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: what annoys me is lack of connection between GUI and text files.
[04:32] <amenado> sk8ball-> you are refering to single machines, try to use gui if you have to support 200 user pc at a time
[04:32] <bazhang> !ot
[04:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: you can have a logical volume which crosses multiple physical volumes
[04:33] <rhombus> okay, so I need to build a new kernel -- what's the name of the kernel source package in Ubuntu?
[04:33] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: Too many GUIs give you no info whatsoever about what text files they are editing behind the scenes.
[04:33] <sk8ball> chameleon, exactly all these system setup/config should be gui accessible
[04:33] <amenado> Nasra-> somewhat..
[04:33] <jrib> !kernel > rhombus (read the private message from ubotu)
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: then you can create a single partition on that logical volume, if you want
[04:33] <pestilence> Concretesledge: (or any number of partitions)
[04:33] <sk8ball> chameleon,
[04:33] <tritium> sk8ball: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:33] <calc> sk8ball: fwiw the new version of Xorg will soon autodetect everything
[04:33] <Concretesledge> pestilence: , so make them all logical?
[04:33] <sk8ball> calc, when is it due out?
[04:33] <calc> sk8ball: so xorg.conf will be empty (more or less)
[04:34] <ChameleonDave> sk8ball: if only they told you what they were doing (e.g. "now modifying /etc/fstab") it would be much easier to learn how to edit the text files yourself
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: no.  you use LVM, and add all the hard drives to a volume group
[04:34] <leechy9> can any1 help with with fixing a bug with the splash screen on startup
[04:34] <Nasra> amenado: type of communication ......
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: no gui, it will just autodetect all settings
[04:34] <amenado> Nasra yes, am familiar
[04:34] <Concretesledge> pestilence: , i didnt see LVM anywhere in the ubuntu install im on live right now
[04:34] <sk8ball> tritium, is there a way to su to root under ubuntu?
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: this is completely different than "logical partitions"
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: sudo su -
[04:34] <Nasra> amenado: okay.....
[04:34] <tritium> sk8ball: the root account is disabled by default.  use "sudo -i" instead
[04:34] <calc> sk8ball: root password is disabled so you can't do a direct su
[04:34] <pestilence> Concretesledge: which version?  i'm not sure if they even had it in gutsy
[04:34] <tronz> fgsjdkf
[04:34] <Concretesledge> 7.10
[04:35] <bazhang> tronz do you have a question?
[04:35] <pestilence> Concretesledge: don' t know
[04:35] <Concretesledge> pestilence: 7.10
[04:35] <Concretesledge> :(
[04:35] <Nasra> amenado: just been running linux like a week or so with one reinstall...
[04:35] <HorizonXP> pestilence: I'm editing named.conf.options to include the DNS servers of my rez network; but what happens when I move to another network, like my campus wireless, or when I go to my parents? Do I need to update this file?
[04:35] <sk8ball> well really i am trying to run ettercap from the menu "shortcut" that add/remove gave me when i installed it but its not seeing eth0 and i am guessing it is a permissions thing
[04:35] <amenado> Nasra-> do a few more re-install to get yourself familiarize with the nuances..
[04:35] <tronz> heh ya but I typed in the wrong window ... know anything about witing serail app in C?
[04:35] <kindofabuzz_> i just realized i'm only getting 1500KB/s over the internal network, but my connection says 24Mb/s, what's up with that?
[04:35] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  there where no options in the partition managers, where would it be?
[04:36] <sk8ball> is there a way to edit the params used in the shortcuts in the applications menu
[04:36] <sk8ball> ?
[04:36] <calc> sk8ball: ettercap might have to be run as root
[04:36] <calc> sk8ball: since it is a packet sniffer
[04:36] <sk8ball> calc, yah i think so
[04:36] <tronz> I wanna ask in ##C but I have to register my nick and I can't get that to work properly
[04:36] <Concretesledge> pestilence: maybe i can use UBCD, to format them or something AS one large partition?
[04:36] <pestilence> HorizonXP: you shouldn't need a DNS server to run a DNS server.  i think it will still resolve names using the root servers
[04:36] <sk8ball> calc, so will sudo resolve that or ?
[04:36] <Nasra> amenado: I find that when I first started running Ubuntu was running smoothly  now I feel is kind of slow.....why is that?
[04:36] <tcpdumpgod> Hey guys :)
[04:36] <tcpdumpgod> and gals :D
[04:36] <pestilence> HorizonXP: i'm not really sure.
[04:37] <calc> sk8ball: if you run sudo (ettercap's binary name) yea i think so
[04:37] <kindofabuzz_> Nasra: alot more stuff running?
[04:37] <amenado> Nasra-> i dont know what you consider slow, its all relative..
[04:37] <pestilence> Concretesledge: no.  you have to use LVM
[04:37] <pestilence> Concretesledge: i would check to see if lvm made it  into gutsy
[04:37] <sk8ball> there really should be an option in the add/remove dialog to set it up so a program is sudo'd as root
[04:37] <calc> sk8ball: looks like the version in hardy is already fixed to run as root
[04:37] <pestilence> i am guessing it didnt
[04:37] <ntorido> Does anyone know any software for developing flash in ubuntu ?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> Nasra, Did you use a program like envy to install proprietary graphics drivers?
[04:38] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Well, we'll see what happens. If my internet doesn't work/is slow tomorrow, I'll know why. :-)
[04:38] <HorizonXP> pestilence: Thanks again, I think this is going to help a lot!
[04:38] <Nasra> amenado / Kindofabuzz Is it because I am using the terminal a little bit more since I am installing programs here and there....is that what it's?
[04:38] <Concretesledge> !google lvm
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about google lvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <calc> sk8ball: things generally shouldn't run as root unless they need to ettercap not running as root was a bug which was fixed in the last upload
[04:38] <tritium> Concretesledge: please don't abuse the bot.  Investigate in private.
[04:38] <sk8ball> calc, is there a way to edit the command the shortcuts in the applications menu are using?
[04:38] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  what exactly is LVM
[04:38] <pestilence> HorizonXP: it could be that the "caching" mode just queries the dns server you specified, and may not help you a lot
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Nasra, If so, they would have broken with any subsequent kernel upgrades ( unlike installing through the provided restricted manager ) and lack of GPU acceleration can certainly slow things down
[04:39] <madman5402> hey can any one tell me how to install azureus
[04:39] <sk8ball> calc, or someway to fix my menu shortcut for it
[04:39] <amenado> Nasra-> nope, its just a perception, put a timer and measure so you can really measure  the effectiveness
[04:39] <calc> sk8ball: yea, edit them in /usr/share/applications or copy and override them
[04:39] <pestilence> HorizonXP: you may have to put it into a different mode to have it resolve on its own (without using the campus servers as a crutch)
[04:39] <tronz> how do I register my nick ?? I read online to type /msg nickserv register <pass> but that doesn't seem to werk
[04:39] <Nasra> Jordan_U ...don't think so....just visiting the terminal more often thats all....
[04:39] <tritium> sk8ball: or install alacarte, and use that gui tool
[04:39] <calc> sk8ball: if you edit them directly in /usr/share/applications they will get overwritten at upgrade time
[04:39] <pestilence> Concretesledge: Logical Volume Manager
[04:39] <jrib> sk8ball: just right click on the ubuntu icon and "edit menu"
[04:40] <calc> sk8ball: eg:
[04:40] <calc> -Exec=/usr/sbin/ettercap --gtk
[04:40] <calc> +Exec=gksu "/usr/sbin/ettercap --gtk"
[04:40] <calc> that was what they did to fix ettercap
[04:40] <amenado> Nasra-> you may be a bit slower now as you have to still look around for the exact command
[04:40] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  could you please tell me how i could find LVM on the ubuntu install disc, while im installing im on a live right now
[04:40] <Nasra> amenado on day 1....installed a few programs and came here and ask questions....and they told me should do a reinstall because alot of programs are not supported any more had to d0 somthing about it
[04:40] <Concretesledge> pestilence:  could i install and alt-tab to talk in here?
[04:41] <cellofellow> Concretesledge: use the Alternate (text) install CD.
[04:41] <pestilence> Concretesledge: i don't think gutsy's live cd has it.  and i kind of doubt that hardy has it either
[04:41] <pestilence> Concretesledge: from google:  http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
[04:41] <tritium> sk8ball: alacarte is installed by default
[04:41] <madman5402> so dose any know any thing about azureus
[04:42] <Nasra> amenado: I do like linux....had I known this before .....would have been a good swimer by now.....
[04:42] <pestilence> Concretesledge: but with that, i'd say good luck...i have to go to bed.
[04:42] <bazhang> madman5402: yes
[04:42] <cellofellow> madman5402: a small amount
[04:42] <Nasra> amenado: things to learn more ofter is all these commands....and how to relate works being done like I used to in windows.....oh loll....
[04:43] <Concretesledge> haha
[04:43] <sergio41> hola
[04:43] <Concretesledge> im not doing that.
[04:43] <Concretesledge> later
[04:43] <pppoe_dude> hi which program should I use to capture audio/video from a webcam/mic?
[04:44] <Nasra> amenado: one site I frequent alot is ----> www.linuxbasics.org is just beautiful....
 i need to know how to install azureus
[04:44] <cellofellow> madman5402: sudo aptitude install azureus
[04:44] <bazhang> madman5402: sudo apt-get installl packagename
[04:45] <cellofellow> madman5402: also there is a newer version available on GetDeb.net
[04:47] <Jordan_U> pppoe_dude, cheeze is a very simple program, I am sure there is something better but it works
[04:47] <pppoe_dude> Jordan_U, does it take audio too? where does it save files
[04:47] <Nasra> Jordan_U
[04:47] <zalker> vlc player can play audio
[04:48] <pppoe_dude> hmm yes vlc can record stuff too
[04:48] <Jordan_U> pppoe_dude, It takes audio with video only ( afik ), probably not what you want, just throwing it out there
[04:48] <Zoris> is configuring compiz different in 8.04? Because I can't seem to get it to work the same way as in 7.10
[04:48] <cellofellow> pppoe_dude: for audio-only, use audacity.
[04:49] <pppoe_dude> i want audio/video
[04:49] <Jordan_U> !hardy | Zambezi
[04:49] <ubotu> Zambezi: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[04:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please Zoris
 hey thanks man
[04:49] <bazhang> no worries ;]
[04:49] <Zoris> okay, thanks
[04:49] <rayman> hey guys im horrible at irc how can i get to a server i want
[04:49] <rayman> i need to get to irc.eqemulator.net
[04:49] <rayman> what commands shall i use =)
[04:49] <Starnestommy> rayman: /server new.server
[04:50] <rayman> thanks chief
[04:50] <kindofabuzz_> if my NM says 24Mb/s and i'm transfering a file from the server to my clint i should be getting more than 1.5Mb/s right?
[04:50] <kindofabuzz_> client*
[04:50] <turbough> hello everybody
[04:50] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: is the first one megabytes or megabits?
[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: by NM you mean NetworkManager?
[04:51] <kindofabuzz_> Mb
[04:51] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yes
[04:51] <abel> test...
[04:51] <bazhang> success!
[04:51] <abel> hi...
[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: the second number, 1.5MBps, sounds right in the ballpark of 24Mbps.

[04:51] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: capital B is Bytes, lower b is bits.
[04:52] <bazhang> yes madman5402
[04:52] <kindofabuzz_> what is MiB?
 so where do i go after it is done installing
[04:52] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: Megabytes.
[04:52] <abel> can u help me?
[04:52] <JohnMM> kindofabuzz_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[04:52] <hischild> abel, yes we probably can. What is the problem?
[04:52] <JohnMM> cellofellow, no a MiB is different
[04:52] <cyntek> I installed ffmpeg by using add/remove app, I recieve an error: I/O error occured. when converting avi to vcd. has anyone run into this problem.?
[04:52] <bazhang> abel only if you ask a specific question
[04:53] <kindofabuzz_> so 1.5MiB is close to 24Mb?
[04:53] <abel> i can't play my mp3 file..
[04:53] <cellofellow> JohnMM: what's a MiB then?
[04:53] <hischild> abel, do you get an error?
[04:53] <bazhang> madman5402: go? to launch azureues you mean? should we in the applications folder or you can type azureus in the alt f2 window
[04:53] <JohnMM> cellofellow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte
[04:53] <abel> yes...
[04:54] <hischild> abel, when you try and play an mp3 file, it will most likely give you a popup box asking you if you would like to install a package. Do you see this screen?
[04:54] <kindofabuzz_> see i'm using bmon to check network speed, it's showing 1,5MiB
[04:54] <bazhang> abel install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:54] <cyntek> I installed ffmpeg by using add/remove app, I recieve an error: I/O error occured. when converting avi to vcd. has anyone run into this problem.?
[04:54] <abel> the message is "the file isn't support" some thing likes that...

[04:54] <Bacta> how can I get a direct path name using find?
[04:54] <kindofabuzz_> so MiB = MB?
[04:55] <JohnMM> a MiB is essentially a MB, it's just a more accurate way of representing a MB
[04:55] <JohnMM> essentially
[04:55] <hischild> abel, alright. Did you see the message from bazhang saying that you should install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[04:55] <cellofellow> JohnMM: looks like a MiB is what a Megabyte is Supposed to be.
 like what do i do to open azureus
[04:55] <cellofellow> ok
[04:55] <JohnMM> yeah, it is pretty much, just a bit more accurate
[04:55] <cabrioleur> Bacta find --whatever whatever | grep name
[04:55] <astro76> kindofabuzz_: MiB was created to solve the problems that technically the SI definition of Mega is 1000, and also that hard drive manufacturers really like the 1000 definition, whereas in computers Mega usually meant 1024
[04:55] <kindofabuzz_> ok so, is 1.5Mib good for a 24Mb connection?
[04:55] <abel> where can i get the source...?
[04:55] <bazhang> madman5402: alt f2 type azureus in the window
[04:55] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: 1.5MiB/s is 1/8 the Mb/s speed.
[04:55] <JohnMM> yep Asfaloth
[04:55] <Bacta> no no
[04:55] <kindofabuzz_> MiB i mean
[04:55] <Bacta> i type find xjc
[04:56] <JohnMM> * astro76
[04:56] <Bacta> and i get bin/xjc
[04:56] <Bacta> i want the direct path to xjc
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> i'm confused lol
[04:56] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: 1.5MiB/s is 12Mb/s.
[04:56] <hischild> abel, you don't need the source for that. If you open up a terminal, you can type the following in to install it:     sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:56] <abel> for the information... i'm using ubuntu 5
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> ok, so not to good then
[04:56] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: so, it's using half the speed.
[04:56] <hischild> cellofellow, don't forget overhead ont hat
[04:56] <Pickles> Im having a hard time updating my flash player for FireFox and Opera, anyone have a few min. they can spare? PM me.
[04:56] <RioMerc> Hello #Ubuntu! I have a question about printer drivers. I have a Canon Pixma MP170, which is not listed on the printers drivers menu of Ubuntu. I've tried the gutenprint drivers to no success, and before going ahead with more drivers I wanted to search for solutions. So far, I've found an excessivley long tutorial that seems to have a 40% userbase who can testify it's worked for MP170s. I want to know if anyone can suggest any dr
[04:56] <RioMerc> ivers to use, or to break it to me and just admit there's no way that I'm going to ever print anything in ubuntu short of buying a new printer.
[04:56] <RioMerc> Whoa, that was long
[04:56] <kindofabuzz_> and why is it only 24Mb, when my card and router can do 54Mb?
 awesome
[04:56] <cellofellow> hischild: 12Mbps on a 24Mbps connection doesn't take in overhead?
[04:56] <bazhang> abel that is no longer supported; upgrade to something more recent
[04:57] <hischild> abel, then it would be better to upgrade most likely. That one is no longer officially supported.
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: signal quality/strength.
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> yeah i don't have the best signal
[04:57] <hischild> cellofellow, the connection itself would probably carry some overhead
[04:57] <abel> okey....
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> NM shows 43%
[04:57] <abel> thanks for all guys....
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: mine will drop to 5Mb/s when I'm at a distance.
[04:57] <bazhang> aha
[04:57] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: that sounds right.
[04:57] <kindofabuzz_> so i guess it's ok then, i was freaking out
[04:57] <RioMerc> Hmm
[04:58] <RioMerc> Isn't MiB completley unrelated to Mbs?
[04:58] <RioMerc> Must wiki this.
[04:58] <kindofabuzz_> except why isn't it supporting 54Mb? like it should be?
[04:58] <RioMerc> And there goes all my reliability in information :|
[04:58] <Pickles> How do you update a flash player if its .tar.gz and extracted to my desktop?
[04:58] <Pickles> Anyone got any ideas
[04:58] <Pickles> ?
[04:58] <cabron> Hello... I'm trying to unpack a .rar file.  When I run sudo apt-get for unrar, though, I get the following error:
[04:58] <cabron> "Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:58] <cabron> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:58] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: I use the netspeed GNOME panel plugin to view speeds. Can be set to both B and b.
[04:58] <cabron> is only available from another source
[04:58] <cabron> E: Package unrar has no installation candidate"
[04:58] <FloodBot2> cabron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 o hwy also how do you open up you firewall for azureus
[04:58] <turbough> I am trying to remotely install ubuntu over a fedora core 7 system which came on a dedicated server. i used the swap space to make a chroot environment using the debootstrap util but when i chroot to it none of the hard drives are registered in the /dev directory
[04:58] <rayman> star you still there?
[04:58] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yeah i was using bmon
[04:59] <vehicle> does ubuntu server come with a gui?
[04:59] <RioMerc> Pickles: Is it source? You may have to compile it yourself or find a autoinstall script
[04:59] <kindofabuzz_> netsped in the repos?
[04:59] <cellofellow> RioMerc: not completely unrelated. MB is in bytes, which are 8 bits.
[04:59] <kindofabuzz_> netspeed
[04:59] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: yup
[04:59] <bazhang> madman5402: you need to port forward; best to log into your router and set it there
[04:59] <RioMerc> And MiB?
[04:59] <Starnestommy> rayman: if you're referring to me, yes
[04:59] <rayman> im trying to get to irc.eqemulator.net guys...but with no luck... how should i type it in ?
[04:59] <GEIS> how do i partition the rest of sda freespace to sdb so that i combines and form partition / ?
[04:59] <cellofellow> RioMerc: a MiB is 1024^2 bytes.
[04:59] <hischild> turbough, you have to mount the /dev in the chroot env
[04:59] <rayman> yes star i am sorry for the confusion
[04:59] <Pickles> RioMerc: any idea how to compile it myself >_<?
[04:59] <astro76> RioMerc: MiB = MB, MiB hasn't really been completely accepted
 ok will do thanks
[04:59] <cabron> Hi... I need some help unpacking a .rar file.
[04:59] <RioMerc> astro76: Explains why I have no concept in it.
[05:00] <astro76> RioMerc: indeed ;)
[05:00] <RioMerc> Pickles: I have little to no idea
[05:00] <cellofellow> RioMerc: MiB is used sometimes to difference from the tendency for companies to label Megabytes as 1000^2 bytes.
[05:00] <Svenstaro> hey everyone, can I somehow tell ubuntu NOT to write grub into my MBR when installing?
[05:00] <Svenstaro> cabron, sure wahts up?
[05:00] <abel> lets get a lunch guys...
[05:00] <kindofabuzz_> cabron: right click and hit extract here =)
[05:00] <astro76> Svenstaro: with the alternate install cd you can
[05:00] <astro76> not sure with desktop cd
[05:00] <turbough> hischild: i have never mounted a /dev before i thought they were special files stored on a regular filesystem
[05:00] <cabron> Sven - I tried to install unrar, but I get an error when doing so...
[05:00] <RioMerc> Pickles: Try googling for tutorials on packaging, or checking the man inside the tar.gz if there's one
[05:00] <Svenstaro> astro76, thanks for getting this positive, I supposed I could with the alternate, ill go ahead installing it
[05:01] <busan> asalamungalaikum
[05:01] <RioMerc> or try waiting for someone more skilled than me to answer
[05:01] <Svenstaro> cabron, whats the error?
[05:01] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: does netspeed not create a menu item? no biggie just wondering
[05:01] <Svenstaro> cabron, it might not be related to the package at all
[05:01] <RioMerc> I'd like to repaste my question for another potshot attempt, but I'm worried about flooding rules. It's an incredibly long question :P
[05:01] <cabron> If I try to use the default "extract" tool it says "archive type not supported"
[05:01] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: it creates an item in the "Add item..." dialog for the panel.
 Hello #Ubuntu! I have a question about printer drivers. I have a Canon Pixma MP170, which is not listed on the printers drivers menu of Ubuntu. I've tried the gutenprint drivers to no success, and before going ahead with more drivers I wanted to search for solutions. So far, I've found an excessivley long tutorial that seems to have a 40% userbase who can testify it's worked for MP170s. I want to know if anyone can sugg
[05:02] <RioMerc> est any dr
 ivers to use, or to break it to me and just admit there's no way that I'm going to ever print anything in ubuntu short of buying a new printer.
[05:02] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: "Add to Panel" rather.
[05:02] <vehicle> question, if i install ubuntu server, then run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' is that completley pointless?
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, we're talking the gnome version of the extract tool? ore the kde one?
[05:02] <RioMerc> Heh
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: netspeed in term don't work
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[05:02] <hischild> turbough, that is correct. If you ever installed gentoo you'll also have to mount the /dev into your chroot env. mount -o bind /dev /chrootenvdevdir
[05:02] <cabron> Ummm.... I'm pretty new.  How do I tell which one I have?
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, at any rate, you might also have to install "rar"
[05:02] <hischild> turbough, in short: the /dev folder itself is ok. The chroot dir just doesn't see it, unless you mount it.
[05:02] <Svenstaro> cabron, did you use ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: network monitor?
[05:02] <kindofabuzz_> i have 2
[05:02] <xb3rt> RioMerc: I've got a Canon IP90, having the same problem
[05:03] <astro76> cabron: you are using the gnome version, and yes it's because you need to install unrar, which you are currently having problems doing
[05:03] <cabron> Oh, okay.  How do I go about that?  I have Ubuntu 7.10
[05:03] <turbough> hischild: so i have to do that before i chroot into the new environment?
[05:03] <xb3rt> iP90
[05:03] <RioMerc> Heh
[05:03] <hischild> turbough, yes.
[05:03] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: there's two of them. One, when selected, says it's netspeed.
[05:03] <RioMerc> xb3rt: The woes of us poor Unsupported canon-ers
[05:03] <turbough> hischild: thank you :)
[05:03] <Svenstaro> cabron, and to make it easier to read for me what you write in this populated channel, please put my name in front of your message, it will be highlighted for me as it does for you
[05:03] <xb3rt> RioMerc: Should we start a class-act on linux
[05:03] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: got it
[05:03] <Svenstaro> cabron, in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install rar unrar" without quotes
[05:04] <hischild> turbough, according to what i'm reading from the gentoo guide you also should mount the /proc folder
[05:04] <M4rotku> I'm having a problem with my hardware configurations, can anyone help?
[05:04] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, whats the matteR?
[05:04] <cellofellow> cabron:  you need Multiverse enabled. ;)
[05:04] <RioMerc> xb3rt: Don't feel too bad, I've also got an ATI card, Dual screens and both of them are 17' that are only VGA, they needs VGA-DVI converters to work with this card. I'm about the most unsupported person around
[05:04] <Svenstaro> cellofellow, is it not enabled by default?
[05:04] <turbough> hischild: yeah. i mounted the proc dir from inside the chroot environment
[05:04] <kindofabuzz_> so does ubuntu not support 54Mb network speed?
[05:04] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: I installed an update from the update manager and it wrote over the configurations for my speakers and for my wireless card
 "Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package..."
[05:04] <xb3rt> RioMerc: how does it feel? :-)
[05:05] <cellofellow> Svenstaro: not that I know of.
[05:05] <ibback> m4rotku. How may i help. Pls be more specific?
[05:05] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: works for me. What wifi card?
[05:05] <gauze_> kindofabuzz_: sure it does
[05:05] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, it does.
[05:05] <RioMerc> ATI Card + MP170 (Canon) printer + Crappy Screens = One day of getting everything to be recognised properly, before you can actually do serious modification
[05:05] <hischild> turbough, ok.
[05:05] <Svenstaro> cabron, as cellofellow mentioned, you need to open synaptic "sudo synaptic" and activate all repositories in the options
[05:05] <hischild> turbough, good luck on the reinstall :-)
 I'm pretty sure that I have multiverse enabled, but still no go...
[05:05] <RioMerc> xb3rt: It feels odd. It's frustrating to be unsupported, but it's fun to hunt like crazy for solutions
[05:05] <kindofabuzz_> linksys wmp54gs with a linksys wrt54gs w/ dd-wrt
[05:05] <busan> how to install new font on linux
[05:05] <Svenstaro> cabron, then update the packages "sudo apt-get update" and try again to install it
[05:05] <cellofellow> cabron: no, hold that thought, the command is wrong.
[05:05] <M4rotku> ibback:  I think i overwrote my configuration files for my sound card and wireless card
[05:06] <xb3rt> RioMerc: at least you'll learn from the experience
[05:06] <astro76> !fonts | busan
[05:06] <vehicle> doesn anyone here know anything about ubuntu server??
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> wireless
[05:06] <ubotu> busan: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:06] <hischild> vehicle, if you ask the question, perhaps we do
[05:06] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, so you want your old config back i assume?
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> i guess i'm only getting 24Mb/s cause of my signal
[05:06] <RioMerc> xb3rt: Yeah, Nvidia, 19' Single screen and a shitty Epson for me from now on
[05:06] <turbough> hischild: thanks. i'm looking forward to having ubuntu!
[05:06] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: yes, that is what i'm looking for
[05:06] <kindofabuzz_> then i only get half of that! lol
[05:06] <tcpdumpgod> good turbough
[05:06] <cellofellow> cabron: `gksudo software-properties-gtk` is the command.
[05:06] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, was it done through apt-get?
[05:06] <vehicle> if i install ubuntu-desktop on top of server is that completley pointless?
[05:07] <xb3rt> RioMerc: I might try dual screening in the near future, are you able to mouse from one to the other?
[05:07] <RioMerc> If you set it up right
[05:07] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: it was done with the update manager, i'm using the hardy heron developement release
[05:07] <Svenstaro> vehicle, yes, you might as well ahve installed ubuntu desktop
[05:07] <RioMerc> I just recently got fglrx to FINALLY work
[05:07] <hischild> vehicle, it would not be pointless. I would only wonder why you wouln't install the desktop one in the first place.
[05:07] <RioMerc> I have to configure BigDesktop today, I'll tell you how it goes
[05:07] <RioMerc> :P
[05:07] <xb3rt> RioMerc: What distro are you on
[05:07] <RioMerc> Ubuntu 7.10
[05:07] <kindofabuzz_> is there a utility to tweak network card setttings?
 Yes, multiverse has a check mark next to it
[05:07] <RioMerc> Infact, I think I'll tackle dualies now
[05:07] <vehicle> i'm trying to set up a file server that i can access on the internet
[05:07] <ibback> m4rotku. Have you try to uninstall it using synaptic by selecting "Mark for Complete Removal" this option will remove also whatever user configuration file. Try it
[05:07] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, okay, which files were affected?
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, you can do that as well via the desktop one.
[05:08] <Svenstaro> ibback, he wants HIS old config back
[05:08] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: my hardware configuration files, my sound card is not detected
[05:08] <vehicle> is the lack of efficiency going to be noticable?
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, no
[05:08] <Svenstaro> vehicle, most likely not at all
[05:08] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, ah which sound card?
[05:08] <M4rotku> ibback: i don't know which package it was
[05:08] <vehicle> is server only command line?
[05:08] <ibback> Svenstaro!. ic..i hope he got backup otherwise me think it dead meat
[05:08] <cellofellow> kindofabuzz_: even when I'm running at 54Mbps, I sometimes only get like 5MBps on LAN file transfers. I think the hard drive is the bottleneck.
[05:08] <hischild> vehicle, the desktop and server one use the same stuff. The only difference is that the server doesn't contain a GUI on install.
[05:09] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: it is a realtek, that is all i know
[05:09] <xb3rt> Where does firefox store all of its bookmarked websites that are under the favorites tab
[05:09] <vehicle> hrm.. alright
[05:09] <Svenstaro> vehicle, yes CLI only
[05:09] <vehicle> thanks guys
[05:09] <Svenstaro> np
[05:09] <kindofabuzz_> cellofellow: yeah my hard drives suck, old computer
[05:09] <cellofellow> M4rotku: realtek wireless? I have that.
[05:09] <kindofabuzz_> p4 1.5ghz
[05:09] <M4rotku> cellofellow: i thought realtek was the speakers, my wireless is, well, idk
[05:09] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, good, no creative one. You *could* try to get alsa installed instead of pulseaudio, it might work then
[05:10] <cellofellow> xb3rt: it stores the websites in ~/.mozilla/firefox/somejunk.default/bookmarks.html
[05:10] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: i use alsa as far as i know
[05:10] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, if you havent installed otherwise, you use pulseaudio which is now standard for heron
[05:10] <Svenstaro> if im not completely off that is
[05:10] <xb3rt> cellofellow: so it stores all of them in that bookmarks.html file
[05:10] <cellofellow> M4rotku: sorry, typed before I spoke. I've had some trouble with my wifi card but got it fixed.
[05:10] <cellofellow> xb3rt: yup
[05:11] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: in that case i guess i don't have alsa
[05:11] <eigma> anyone know what files are added by gdm in /etc/event.d?
[05:11] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: but the sound worked before i installed this update
[05:11] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, if your system is new enough for toying around, you might try to just install alsa
[05:11] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, ah I see
[05:11] <cellofellow> M4rotku: ALSA is drivers and a sound API. PulseAudio is a sound server. Runs on top of ALSA.
[05:11] <hischild> what is the easiest way to connect via nautilus on an ubuntu <--> ubuntu home network?
[05:12] <RioMerc> We;;
[05:12] <RioMerc> Wish me luck, I'm going to try to install my dualies
[05:12] <cellofellow> hischild: I use ssh://, but setting up Samba may work too.
[05:12] <Svenstaro> hischild, most likely samba or NFS
[05:13] <xb3rt> cellofellow: that file was actually something different, im looking for the location of the webpages under my bookmarks tab of the Tool bar
[05:13] <cellofellow> hischild: I don't think Nautilus does NFS. AFAIK, NFS is implemented in the kernel and with /etc/fstab.
[05:13] <M4rotku> Svenstaro: i gtg, thanks for your help, if you think of anything, i have a thread going on ubuntuforums.org so you could contact me there
[05:13] <hischild> Svenstaro, cellofellow, alright. The problem i'm having with it, is that ssh and sftp keep timing out on it and i don't see a problem, since i can ssh from one to the other.
[05:13] <Svenstaro> M4rotku, alright, good luck
[05:13] <cellofellow> xb3rt: that is where the bookmarks are stored, though. I'm confused now.
[05:14] <Svenstaro> cellofellow, hischild, you could always mount it to /media and then easily access with nautilus
[05:14] <xb3rt> cellofellow: check it out, its just a file for the ubuntu help page bookmarks
[05:14] <kindofabuzz_>  if anyone has the problem of cursor theme changing to default when hovering over desktop or panels, then back again in apss, i have the solution.  finally figured it out
[05:14] <kindofabuzz_> apps*
[05:14] <cellofellow> xb3rt: not mine. Has all of my bookmarks.
[05:15] <hischild> Svenstaro, this is NFS we're talking about? If so, them i'm interested in hearing more about it. Do you have a link or would you mind guiding me through it?
[05:15] <Svenstaro> hischild, its real easy, were talking about 7.10?
[05:15] <JFerret> Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please
[05:15] <cellofellow> xb3rt: maybe you are using a different bookmarks system. Google Toolbar's bookmarks, maybe?
[05:15] <hischild> Svenstaro, one is 7,10, the other 8,04. The one that would act as server, is the 7,10
[05:16] <xb3rt> cellofellow: I've got the bookmark toolbar along with my bookmark tab on the top window
[05:16] <cellofellow> oh, the bookmark tab
[05:16] <cellofellow> toolbar
[05:16] <cellofellow> whatever...
[05:16] <xb3rt> cellofellow: yea
[05:16] <kindofabuzz_> what's the point of swap if it's never used?  i've opened almost everything i can think of to see if it would get used, my system never touched it
[05:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, in the one that acts as the server, open /etc/exports with some editor and put the following in there: /home <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>(rw)
[05:16] <cellofellow> xb3rt: this is the built in toolbar, not an extension?
[05:16] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, suspend to swap, hibernation...
[05:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, of course, change ip and path and even subnet as needed
[05:17] <kindofabuzz_> oh, well hib and suspend don't work either lol
[05:17] <Svenstaro> hischild, be careful to leave a .0 at the end of the ip for the subnet mask to work of course
[05:17] <cabrioleur> kindofabuzz_, and in case you do need it. And believe me, Linux is nuts when it's out of swap space.
[05:17] <kindofabuzz_> but mine is never touched
[05:17] <xb3rt> cellofellow:  you know what i mean, the one thats up alongside file, edit, and the other options....It says bookmarks, and you click it and it shows a list of all your saved pages
[05:17] <hischild> Svenstaro, the subnet is ok, the ip is slightly different. The /home is the folder going to be shared? Also, that file doesn't exist, thus i should create it?
[05:18] <Svenstaro> hischild, yes and yes
[05:18] <hischild> Svenstaro, and that ip should be the server one?
[05:18] <cellofellow> xb3rt: that the bookmarks.html file. I promise. The toolbar is a folder in that.
[05:18] <kindofabuzz_> i wish i could get suspend to work
[05:18] <Svenstaro> hischild, the one for the client or client range which is allowed to access the share
[05:18] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright, done
[05:18] <cellofellow> xb3rt: click "Organize Bookmarks..." in the Bookmarks menu.
[05:18] <xb3rt> cellofellow: im looking at it, and its not their
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the client, go to /etc/fstab and paste this onto a new line "<server>:</path/of/dir> </local/mnt/point> nfs <options> 0 0" w/o quotes
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, and of course change as needed
[05:19] <cellofellow> xb3rt: in ~/.mozilla/firefox, are there any folders besides the one that has .default in it?
[05:19] <Svenstaro> hischild, I suggest you create the local mnt point in /media so you can easily access it in nautilus
[05:19] <strikerfalcon> is this where the helpful people are?
[05:20] <hischild> Svenstaro, that is what i planned to do
[05:20] <Svenstaro> sometimes, strikerfalcon
[05:20] <xb3rt> cellofellow: ive got /profile and /pref
[05:20] <hischild> strikerfalcon, if you got a question, then ask :-) that's the best way to find out
[05:20] <cellofellow> xb3rt: huh?
[05:20] <xb3rt> cellofellow: those are the two directories under the firefox folder
[05:21] <strikerfalcon> Ive been searching and scratching to find out why my dvd player is not found and no threads have been helpful
[05:21] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright one last question: the path/of/dir on fstab should be the same as the one on exports?
[05:21] <xb3rt> cellofellow: maybe im looking in a completely differnt firefox folder
[05:21] <strikerfalcon> anyone dealt with this problem?
[05:21] <kindofabuzz_> !suspend
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:22] <hischild> strikerfalcon, can you be a bit more specific? Does it give you an error? Does it complain about something?
[05:22] <Svenstaro> hischild, yes
[05:22] <cellofellow> xb3rt: maybe use the filesearch to look for more files named bookmarks.html, because that IS where firefox stores the bookmarks. You've probably got the wrong one.
[05:22] <strikerfalcon> hold on.. let me make it error real quick
[05:22] <Svenstaro> hischild, I forgot to mention, on the server you ahve to run "exportfs -a"
[05:23] <cellofellow> xb3rt: try this `locate bookmarks.html`
[05:23] <hischild> cellofellow,  xb3rt, AFAIK it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/insertwierdlettersfolder/bookmarks.html
[05:23] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright will do.
[05:23] <xb3rt> cellofellow: found it, was in the wrong dir
[05:23] <Svenstaro> hischild, well run mount -a on the client and hope :)
[05:23] <xb3rt> cellofellow: theirs two files named that
[05:24] <hischild> Svenstaro, seem to be missing nfs-kernel-server ... installing =) (with the chance of writing it all over again)
[05:24] <strikerfalcon> totem says "i may not have permission" when I put in a video dvd
[05:24] <Svenstaro> hischild, Oh i thought that one got installed by default, well better make backups of your files
[05:24] <samuel> sup all
[05:24] <Svenstaro> yo samiam
[05:24] <Svenstaro> yo samuel, imean
[05:25] <cha0s> can anyone tell me why this command doesn't work (in a script)
[05:25] <cha0s> new_src=`echo "$fb_src" | sed s_./_"$2"/_`
[05:25] <samuel> anyone know if there is something similar to fedora's server management tools in ubuntu?
[05:25] <cha0s> result: sed: -e expression #1, char 5: unterminated `s' command
[05:25] <hischild> Svenstaro, ofcourse we have backups. It's second nature of a linux user to have backups. We make backups so easy we don't even remember where we put them ... wait ... where did i put that file again?
[05:25] <cha0s> it appears $2 isn't evaluating before sed is called
[05:25] <hischild> Svenstaro, it gave me an option :-) it's done
[05:26] <nikrud> samuel probably ebox is what you're looking for
[05:26] <Svenstaro> hischild, nice, succes?
[05:26] <Sefyroth> Hi guys, I have a little problem when I try to run the installer for Ubuntu Server 7.10. After choosing my keyboard layout, it says it's looking for my cdrom drive and then tells me it can't find the drivers.
[05:26] <samuel> nikrud: thanks ill look into it
[05:26] <egc> hi all, i have the following command to print a man page: "man foo | col -b | lpr".  Can someone suggest a filter I can use to get this to print 2-up?
[05:26] <strikerfalcon> I recently upgraded to fiesty from edgy and now no mavies will load
[05:27] <hischild> Svenstaro, unfortunately, no. Server is giving me an error. "Neither subtree_check or no_subtre_check specified for export *insert some ip stuff for client*
[05:27] <Svenstaro> strikerfalcon, are you using totem?
[05:27] <strikerfalcon> for watching factory dvds
[05:27] <fismoll8> hey guys, when I type finger in the terminal, my user name pops up three times. How can I be logged in 3 times at once?
[05:27] <strikerfalcon> none of the others ive used have worked
[05:28] <nikrud> fismoll8 got some terminals open?
[05:28] <xTheGoat121x> Evening all.  I noticed that Nautilus organizes my music out of order
[05:28] <jumbers> Are there any programs available to bruteforce the password on a .RAR file that I lost the password to?
[05:28] <samuel> nikrud: ebox is web-based, im looking for something gtk based, any ideas?
[05:28] <JFerret> Can someone help me get LIRC and my remote to work please
[05:28] <nikrud> samuel no, I generally do stuff with the command line
[05:28] <egc> nm, i see it.  "psnup"
[05:28] <Svenstaro> hischild, doesnt it default to subtree?
[05:29] <nikrud> samuel not that I do a lot of server configging, soI don't need much
[05:29] <fismoll8> sorry, I got logged out. Does anyone know why my user name comes up 3 times when I type in finger?
[05:29] <nikrud> fismoll8 got some terminals open?
[05:29] <fismoll8> just one
[05:29] <samuel> nikrud: so do i, but i would like to stop have a gtk tool to do simple changes
[05:29] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, ah, now I noticed something odd with my finger... it shows a 3rd login, that isn't my username at all.
[05:29] <hischild> Svenstaro, this isn't something i know much about so i can't answer that question ..
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild, put this onto the exports string "(rw,no_root_squash,async)"
[05:30] <cha0s> nvm, i solved it... $2 contained an underscore!
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild and run exportfs -a again
[05:30] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x fismoll8 all I get is my X login (tty7) and the terminal I do finger in (pts/0)
[05:30] <Svenstaro> hischild just in case also issue sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart
[05:30] <fismoll8> same here, but I also get *pts/1
[05:31] <fismoll8> along with my username
[05:31] <hischild> Svenstaro, alright that's a whole list, Give me a min to do it
[05:31] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, hmmm that's not good.
[05:31] <nikrud> fismoll8 fismoll8 try lsof | grep pts/1
[05:32] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x what's the username?
[05:32] <stefan__> Hi I'm a noobie and I need help to get my x fi sound card working with linux.
[05:32] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, "e"
[05:33] <fismoll8> nikrud: nothing happens
[05:33] <Sefyroth> Hi guys, I have a little problem when I try to run the installer for Ubuntu Server 7.10. After choosing my keyboard layout, it says it's looking for my cdrom drive and then tells me it can't find the drivers. Any idea?
[05:33] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x do you have a user e ?
[05:33] <Sefyroth> I succeeded in installing Ubuntu regular edition before.
[05:33] <hischild> Svenstaro, this is odd. If i do this from the command line (exportfs -o rw <IP_ADDRESS>:/home/iositd) it does work. Also, it still complains, yet when running exportfs without options it does show up.
[05:34] <nikrud> fismoll8 I did that with pts/0 , got the processes using that pts
[05:34] <Svenstaro> hischild, uhm
[05:34] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, nope.  The odd thing, it doesn't show as being logged in to anything... like I have my user on both TTY7 and PTS/0 but e doesn't have anything listed next to it
[05:34] <agung> hhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiii
[05:34] <hischild> Svenstaro, man is a mighty tool sometimes ... :p
[05:34] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x and I don't know why that would be happening. Very suspicious on the face of it.
[05:35] <fismoll8> ok nikrud...same here
[05:35] <Svenstaro> hischild, man can be a mighty fool as well :)
[05:35] <hischild> Svenstaro, oh that's true as well, though i try to make the best of it ;-)
[05:35] <fismoll8> thanks nikrud---I think everything is fine
[05:35] <Svenstaro> hischild, anyway, everything working now?
[05:35] <hischild> Svenstaro, not yet. Client can't seem to connect
[05:35] <fismoll8> I think every time you open a terminal or a program, you get another iteration of your username
[05:36] <nikrud> fismoll8 I'm glad you think so. I've never seen anything not obvious in a finger or who
[05:36] <hischild> Svenstaro, according to the error it's a faulty file system selection so i'm guessing i'm missing a package
[05:36] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, agreed.  If I type "who" I only get two listings.
[05:36] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, the right ones, too.
[05:36] <nikrud> fismoll8 yes, you do. pts/1 , 2 , 3 etc for each term. That's why I asked if you had any open. Should have 3, if you have 2 terms open
[05:37] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the server do this sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common portmap
[05:37] <hagoth> oops
[05:37] <Svenstaro> hischild, on the client do sudo apt-get install portmap nfs-common
[05:37] <xb3rt> I found the file I want to get to, /home/brett/.mozilla/firefox/jbkvm7gy.default/bookmarks.html    but I can't find it anywhere
[05:38] <peter__> connect
[05:38] <hischild> Svenstaro, that seems to give some stuff to install client side
[05:38] <kindofabuzz_> hsichild: you doing NFS?
[05:38] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, correct
[05:38] <kindofabuzz_> i just did it on mine: best guide i found: http://digen.wordpress.com/2006/04/28/configuring-nfs-server/
[05:38] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, Svenstaro, and i just succeeded. Awesome
[05:39] <kindofabuzz_> yeah it's pretty easy
[05:39] <Svenstaro> hischild, it be working? :)
[05:39] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, it is, once you know how to do it.
[05:39] <hischild> Svenstaro, yes it is. :-)
[05:39] <Svenstaro> hischild \o/
[05:39] <kindofabuzz_> i gave up on samba, screw the windows on my network lol
[05:40] <hischild> Svenstaro, \../. _o_ .\../  is more my thing ;-)
[05:40] <Svenstaro> :)
[05:40] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, i never bothered to try samba as it's a thing for windows which i'm trying to avoid ;-)
[05:40] <Svenstaro> hischild I'm a bit more on the conservative site concerning emoticons
[05:40] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, I've noticed something else.... does Nautilus not take into consideration dashes in filenames?  Because my entire music collection is set up as
[05:40]  * Svenstaro likes samba
[05:40] <hischild> Svenstaro, i understand. But a metal fan has to do what a metal fan has to do
[05:40] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: yeah i got samba working to where the windows could see the shares but i couldn't log onto them!
 - <Title> yet it still screws up the order
[05:41] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, last time i tried i got the same effect from ubuntu -> windows
[05:41] <sstoveld> hi everyone
[05:41] <Svenstaro> hischild, I have yet to get to know one single linux user who listens to hiphop
[05:41] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x screws up the order? what do you mean?  You get a different sort order in the terminal than in nautilus?
[05:41] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: hehe
[05:41] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_, you have to reboot windows everytime you want to try out a new samba config
[05:42] <Peddy> can someone please tell me if the easy-access audio ports at the front of my PC are worse quality than the ones at the back?
[05:42] <nikrud> Svenstaro you gotta be kidding
[05:42] <j_> Hey, How many Bytes are in a BMP PIXEL?????
[05:42] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: oh, not worth the trouble lol
[05:42] <Svenstaro> Peddy, they are because of interference and cable length, but its doubtful you can hear the difference
[05:42] <bullgard4> "~$ xmodmap; xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):..." What considers the X Window System a 'modifier'?
[05:42] <hischild> Svenstaro, i have to agree on that one ... most of the ones i know either listen to metal, alternative or some other non-mainstream style of music
[05:43] <Svenstaro> hischild ALTERNATIVE all the way
[05:43] <kindofabuzz_> <--- jam-bands
[05:43] <hischild> bullgard4, AFAIK the thing you're trying to make it execute.
[05:43] <kindofabuzz_> widespread panic!
[05:43] <hischild> Svenstaro, kindofabuzz_, <-- gothic metal, viking metal, and all the likings off
[05:43] <fk7_se> whats the best version of ubuntu for a older pc, such as a 1 ghz celeron machine
[05:43] <bullgard4> hischild: Your answer is too abstrect for me. Can you elaborate.
[05:43] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, well, as an example... I have a band in my collection called Red... their music is interrupted by several other bands, such as the Red Hot Chili Peppers, simply because the title half of the filename starts with an I, for example.
[05:44] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, thats Xubuntu
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: viking metal? lol what is that?
[05:44] <memian> fk7_se, try xubuntu
[05:44] <hischild> bullgard4, if you try to make it execute gedit, the modifier would be gedit afaik
[05:44] <fk7_se> thanks
[05:44] <Peddy> Svenstaro: so it still uses HD audio?
[05:44] <fk7_se> thats good to hear because i already have a copy of it lol
[05:44] <xb3rt> lets say I have ubuntu gutsy on my system and I want to dual boot with another linux distro live cd installation, what new partitions would I need, and how would I allow them to both use the same swap space
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> i listen to bands that can actually play more than 3 chords
[05:44] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, ofcourse. Though i'm afraid we're getting offtopic here. Let's go to offtopic on this one.
[05:44] <kindofabuzz_> hehe sorry
[05:44] <Peddy> Svenstaro: its onboard HD audio btw
[05:44] <Svenstaro> Peddy, technically yes, but from an analog viewpoint your soundquality decreases
[05:45] <kindofabuzz_> well audio connection chat is off topic too! =)
[05:45] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, no problem and i love to talk about it, just trying to avoid a warning ;-)
[05:45] <memian> xb3rt, it will use any swap it finds, and if you want a persistent installation label one of your ext2-3 partition as casper-rw
[05:45] <Svenstaro> xb3rt you only need one swapspace per computer, it can be used by all 100 linux distros you got installed
[05:45] <Peddy> Svenstaro: ok, thanks :) and its not physically that far away, because my 'front' sound ports are not in 'front' in that sense. They are on top (closer to the mobo).
[05:46] <fk7_se> will xubuntu run on a 486
[05:46] <Peddy> Svenstaro: am I off-topic?
[05:46] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x oh. I'd never looked at that. So you mean   Red - Echo,  Red Hot Chili Peppers - Some album,   Red - Ideomatic , it would order like that?
[05:46] <Svenstaro> Peddy, uhm, well it doesnt really concern Ubuntu what you asked, tho im still happy to help :)
[05:46] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, exactly, and it drives me crazy b/c I'm OCD about my music order.
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: probably yeah, but would still be sloooow
[05:47] <sstoveld> hey guys, im looking to install ubuntu for the first time. im a newb here, does it matter if i burn the iso to a DVD instead of a CD? im all out of CD's
[05:47] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, I suppose it will, but you might want to use Damn Small Linux there
[05:47] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, it's like it doesn't have any respect for the dash that's in between the artist and title.
[05:47] <fk7_se> i'll have to experiment with that
[05:47] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no wont matter
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> yeah just make that 486 a firewall or something
[05:47] <hischild> sstoveld, no. I installed all my os from a dvd
[05:47] <sstoveld> ok thanks
[05:47] <memian> fk7_se, also try puppy linux
[05:47] <fk7_se> damn small linux, just command line?
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: yeah
[05:47] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, no ,a powerful window manager is what you get
[05:47] <fk7_se> thanks for the info i'll check into those
[05:47] <kindofabuzz_> oh
[05:48] <kindofabuzz_> used to be only cl
[05:48] <Svenstaro> fk7_se, about any window manager will work on 486
[05:48] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x I keep them in folders, so Red/Echo Ideomatic   Red hot/album  works for me. Make sure it does it as you expect in a terminal, and if nautilus is diifferent file it as a bug. The worst thing that will happen is you'll get a won't fix tag, and maybe an explanation
[05:48] <memian> times are changing
[05:48] <Peddy> Svenstrao: thanks my homie g
[05:48] <Peddy> xD
[05:48] <Svenstaro> Peddy np
[05:48] <sstoveld> well this will be my first time installing ubuntu, anyone have a guide or anything that will have some helpful information for me? like is there anything i need to know before i install it?
[05:48] <hischild> sstoveld, not really. Is there something you're worried about that might go wrong?
[05:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are you curretnly using windows?
[05:49] <kindofabuzz_> fk7_se: MEPIS has a disro for old computers if you wanna stick with debian, starts with an X i think
[05:49] <sstoveld> well i was, until my pc got all messed when i tried installing hellgate london
[05:49] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, ah, it does it the same way in Terminal.
[05:49] <fk7_se> i would get another hard drive to swap in and out, until you set it up how you want
[05:49] <sstoveld> so now it just keeps trying to boot, but i get BSOD at windows loading screen
[05:49] <sstoveld> so i figure its time for a change
[05:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, lol, what a coincidence that you now want to try ubuntu
[05:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, are you a gamer?
[05:50] <sstoveld> yeah haha, and ive hear a lot of positive things about ubuntu
[05:50] <nikrud> xTheGoat121x hm
[05:50] <fk7_se> mepis, never heard of it, i will check it out
[05:50] <sstoveld> not a big gamer really, hellgate london is the newest game i want to play
[05:50] <kindofabuzz_> yeah MEPIS is a debian child like ubuntu is
[05:50] <sstoveld> but i do play some games
[05:50] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, let me check on linux compability, but quite honsetly, hellgate sucks :<
[05:51] <sstoveld> haha, well i loved diablo, and i havent played it since i bought it a few months ago
[05:51] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you are better off playing diablo, hellgate doesnt run on linux as far as I can judge looking at wineapps db and diablo 2 runs like a dream out of the box, and it OWNS
[05:51] <kindofabuzz_> you can probably get diablo running with DOSBOX
[05:51] <xTheGoat121x> nikrud, yeah.
[05:51] <Svenstaro> no need for dosbox
[05:52] <sstoveld> lol ive never used or even seen any linux os, so im completely confused about whatever youre talking about
[05:52] <cpk1> anyone able to help me with hostap? I am having trouble getting clients to authenticate
[05:52] <Smegzor> I can connect to XDMC from anywhere in my LAN but not from the internet.  I suspect I need to edit hosts.allow and hosts.deny  Is there anywhere else that might be blocking remote connections?  I can SSH in from the internet.
[05:53] <sstoveld> i read some of a guide about linux, ill read it later
[05:53] <tgelter> so, I want to ssh into a box and launch an X application on that box...how do I do it? (yeah, I realize this is probably easy)
[05:53] <fk7_se> alright i'm downloading a 97 mb iso for dsl, sound right
[05:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no windows software runs natively on linux, it need to either be emulated or otherwise be made compatible, not all windows apps can be made to work on linux
[05:53] <Smegzor> I have set up remote logins correctly in system/administration
[05:53] <kindofabuzz_> sstoveld: are you good with coomand line in windows?  if so, forget everything you know about it, get ready for new stuff =)
[05:53] <Svenstaro> tgelter, a simple "vncserver" does the job there for you
[05:54] <tgelter> Svenstaro: no way through ssh?
[05:54] <zewb> hello
[05:54] <sstoveld> so would i probably be better off staying with my windows xp? cause this stuff kind of seems pretty confusing, is ubuntu easy to learn to use for newbs?
[05:54] <zewb> i want to run a telnet bbs on my ubuntu box
[05:54] <Svenstaro> tgelter, well you can tunnel vnc through ssh, is probably easiest
[05:54] <sstoveld> nah i didnt use command line much in windows
[05:54] <kindofabuzz_> i got on my dad's XP box, i forgot how to use windows pretty much since i been on linux, and it's only been like a month
[05:54] <zewb> does anyone know how to run a telnet bbs on ubuntu?
[05:54] <sstoveld> haha
[05:54] <tgelter> Svenstaro: no way to just specify DISPLAY to point to the local box?
[05:54] <Angela_Smith> Hi all! Just got ubuntu installed :) I have an AMD 64bit +4800 x2, Do I need the restricted generic drivers for optimal performance?
[05:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, depends on what youre trying to do, if you want to set up a LAMP server you will run into some trouble, if you wanna browse the web, edit and listen to music and play some games, ubuntu is better than windows by a couple of miles
[05:55] <kindofabuzz_> i couldn't even remember all the skeyboard shorcut commands i use to know
[05:55] <hischild> Angela_Smith, It usually helps with your graphics card
[05:55] <memian> zewb, did you try google?
[05:55] <fk7_se> oh definitely helps with gfx card, don't forget compiz if not installed
[05:55] <sstoveld> well i dont even know what a LAMP server is, so ubuntu is sounding pretty good to me :)
[05:55] <Svenstaro> tgelter, not directly through SSH, you can still forward the X server output to SSH, tho when I tried it didnt work and when it did its performance sucked, it assumes youre on LAN with the server
[05:56] <kindofabuzz_> yeah it trips me out how people will pay 200$ for a copy of vista and then all they do is get online and check email
[05:56] <tgelter> Svenstaro: alright, thanks
[05:56] <sstoveld> what about drivers though? will i need to install my motherboard drivers to be able to access the internet on a fresh install? like my ethernet driver
[05:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, just install "xchat" by issuing a "sudo apt-get install xchat" in the console, log onto this channel and ask us questions
[05:56] <zewb> memian: yes, it didn't help
[05:57] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no, you will almost never need to do all that windows bollocks
[05:57] <hischild> sstoveld, no. You most likely won't need any drivers at all.
[05:57] <sstoveld> oh nice
[05:57] <kindofabuzz_> unless you are wireless
[05:57] <hischild> in which case you still won't need them most likely
[05:57] <hischild> just a bit less likely
[05:57] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, there are no real driver installs in linux, all is compiled into the kernel and you dont have to worry about that
[05:57] <sstoveld> the more i hear the more anxious i am getting for ubuntu
[05:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, remember to install a utility called "envy" (google that, first entry is right) which automatically installs your graphics card drivers
[05:58] <sstoveld> well my iso just finished downloading, is there a special way i need to burn it? or will it work fine burning with dvd decrypter or nero?
[05:58] <kindofabuzz_> you'll like it, we just pray you won't get a install "bug"
[05:58] <Esk1> is there a way to get my wifi driver installed without connecting to the net?
[05:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you will sometimes run into a wall and be frustrated, but at least in the linux world stuff brakes because you made a mistake, not the system :)
[05:58] <prince_jammys> careful with envy
[05:59] <sstoveld> hehe
[05:59] <hischild> Svenstaro, !!!!
[05:59] <hischild> !envy
[05:59] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[05:59] <prince_jammys> avoid it
[05:59] <Svenstaro> Esk1, compile the module/kernel on a machine that does and put it over to your machine without intenret
[05:59] <anaoum> !ubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <kindofabuzz_> yeah and if you're like alot of linux folks, problems can be "fun" sometimes, well for me they can be, but i'm a geek lol
[05:59] <anaoum> !debian
[05:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[05:59] <anaoum> !repositories
[05:59] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[06:00] <prince_jammys> anaoum: /msg ubotu
[06:00] <Esk1> thanks sven
[06:00] <bullgard4> "~$ xmodmap; xmodmap:  up to 4 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses):..." What considers the X Window System a 'modifier'?
[06:00] <hischild> kindofabuzz_, oh i like problems. I thrill on them and i love them. :P
[06:00] <anaoum> sorry prince
[06:00] <mrpockets> dude
[06:00] <Esk1> is there a site that has terminal shortcuts?
[06:00] <mrpockets> i've got a bluetooth dongle for my Motorola cell phone
[06:00] <kindofabuzz_> hischild: hehe
[06:00] <Svenstaro> problems are awesome :)
[06:00] <mrpockets> and i wanna pull some pics off my phone
[06:00] <mrpockets> how?
[06:00] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, per bluetooth?
[06:01] <mrpockets> eh?
[06:01] <epitron> is there a logfile for gnome session startup? (my gnome session is crashing when i start it)
[06:01] <scream_sayonara> does someone feel like talking to a retard about media players
[06:01] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, how do you connect to the phone?
[06:01] <anaoum> has anyone ever setup jungledisk on an ubuntu machine?
[06:01] <mrpockets> bluetooth?
[06:01] <epitron> what's a jungle disk
[06:02] <hischild> scream_sayonara, we all do :-) what's the problem?
[06:02] <anaoum> http://www.jungledisk.com
[06:02] <Svenstaro> mrpockets, okay, do you have a way to accept bluetooth connection on your computer? like a usb dongle or something?
[06:02] <sstoveld> ok guys, one more question before i install, do i need to wipe my drive first or can i do that when im installing with the iso im burning to disc?
 i've got a bluetooth dongle for my Motorola cell phone
[06:02] <hischild> sstoveld, can be done when installing :-)
[06:02] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: you don't need to wipe anything.
[06:02] <epitron> sstoveld: you can do whatever you want from the installer -- resize partitions, wipe drives, etc.
[06:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you can do that on the fly
[06:02] <sstoveld> thanks :D
[06:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld YOU CAN EVEN BROWSE THE WEB AND CHAT WHILE YOU ARE INSTALLING!
[06:02] <sstoveld> haha support here is great :D
[06:03] <sstoveld> o rly?
[06:03] <sstoveld> awesome
[06:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld now try a microsoft hotline
[06:03] <sstoveld> HAHA
[06:03] <anaoum> there should be a direct link to this channel on the live cd desktop!
[06:03] <sstoveld> oh that reminds me of a picture
[06:03] <sstoveld> let me find it :D
[06:03] <scream_sayonara> i cant play my john saffran dvds.... ive downloaded a couple of different players but they all need plugins and when i go to the help pages there are never any links.. just words which make little to no sense to me
[06:03] <hischild> Svenstaro, you just so much made my day
[06:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld dont get discouraged when stuff breaks,of course it would suck if you couldn't even boot to ubuntu, tho theres little probabilty that you cant
[06:03] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: can you play any dvds?
[06:04] <sstoveld> http://www.weboptimist.com/images/microsoft_tech_support.jpg
[06:04] <Svenstaro> hischild :)
[06:04] <sstoveld> yeah, that wouldnt be too fun :(
[06:04] <Svenstaro> sstoveld whats your video card and processor?
[06:04] <scream_sayonara> nah.. totem will play the first title screen and stop, and caffeine just says that it doesnt have the plugin
[06:04] <sstoveld> amd 64 athlon 300+ venice
[06:04] <scream_sayonara> i can play other video files, just not actual dvds
[06:04] <sstoveld> ati sapphire radeon x800 GTO2
[06:04] <kindofabuzz_> anyone got a good guide to running a webserver using apache?  i got it all installed, just don't know what to do now
[06:04] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: did you install libdvdcss2 ?
[06:04] <b0xxy> anyone here have experiance with back-track
[06:04] <hischild> sstoveld, that pic reminds me of the internet help desk
[06:05] <sstoveld> haha
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no problems there :)
[06:05] <scream_sayonara> nah what is that and where do i get it? i am so new to this
[06:05] <sstoveld> :)
[06:05] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that's the key library
[06:05] <sstoveld> only 1.5gb of ram, problem? or am i good there?
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sadly ATI doesnt like Linux so their drivers are a bit meh
[06:05] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, you will feel okay even with 512, but no lower
[06:05] <kindofabuzz_> sstoveld: you're good, i only have 756
[06:05] <sstoveld> oh so i do need drivers? i thought you didnt need drivers?
[06:05] <kindofabuzz_> or whatevr it is
[06:05] <scream_sayonara> but what does that mean? can i check somehow if its on here?
[06:06] <kindofabuzz_> 764
[06:06] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, well of course you need drivers, just htat you dont need to care about them :)
[06:06] <sstoveld> oh :P
[06:06] <Angela_Smith> Is a AMD +4800 X2, a K8 processor? TIA
[06:06] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: type in terminal: apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[06:06] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, is there any crucial windows software that you need?
[06:07] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: if it is not installed, you will see "Installed: none"
[06:07] <sstoveld> hmm, what would be an example of crucial software?
[06:07] <mrpockets> dude
[06:07] <mrpockets> so yeha
[06:07] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, something that you cant live without :)
[06:07] <sstoveld> maybe photoshop, flash, dreamweaver, pretty much adobe CS3
[06:07] <praveen_> dell pf 320 freeze after first boot screen
[06:08] <praveen_> can any one help
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, uhh damnit, because the CS3 series doenst yet work im afraid :(
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, CS2 does like a charm, not CS3 yet
[06:08] <sstoveld> well thats fine, i prefer photoshop cs2 better :)
[06:08] <hischild> Svenstaro, there are good alternatives to it though =)
[06:08] <Svenstaro> sure there are, they yet have to top photoshop tho :(
[06:09] <sstoveld> but whatabout dreamweaver and flash? i need to go with flash 8 and dreamweaver 8?
[06:09] <Syko> i'm having trouble finding the xorg.conf file... can anyone point me in the right directoin?
[06:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, let me check
[06:09] <Svenstaro> Syko, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:09] <sstoveld> k thanks :)
[06:09] <belkinhelp2> hello my fellow ubuntu users
[06:09] <Syko> svenstaro thx
[06:10] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, all the CS2 tools work like a charm
[06:10] <hischild> sstoveld, dreamweaver is platinum so should be gd :-)
[06:10] <Svenstaro> CS3 works like garbae :(
[06:10] <belkinhelp2> have any of you experienced the following problem:  When I watch video clips from youtube or google it seems that every now and again the audio "stutters" anywhere from a second to a few seconds, then the clip continues to play normally.  This happens infrequently and not on ever clip.  Any ideas?
[06:10] <sstoveld> k
[06:11] <Radit> Is there a any program to manage psd files, like acdsee in ubuntu?
[06:11] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: i have the same problem, i thought it may be a firefox problem
[06:11] <Svenstaro> Radit, tried fspot and picasa?
[06:11] <andross> hi anybody knows how to fix the sound problem with the 82801H (ICH8 Family) card? I know i have to download a package but I dont remember it's name.
[06:11] <belkinhelp2> im using ubuntu 7.10 with all the latest updates
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> i have firefox on my windows machine and it doesnt do it there
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> thats why i thought it was an ubunutu issue
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> perhaps something along the lines of memory allocation or virtual memory
[06:12] <sstoveld> ok installing ubuntu right now, i probably want to check cd for defects firsth eh?
[06:12] <Svenstaro> belkinhelp2, are you using adobe flash?
[06:12] <sstoveld> first*
[06:12] <belkinhelp2> ubunut has a page file, or swap file i imagine just like windows does correct?
[06:12] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no you dont
[06:13] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro...thats a good question
[06:13] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: yeah, youtube has to use flash
[06:13] <sstoveld> no? just go with Start or install ubuntu?
[06:13] <belkinhelp2> kindo...yeah i think your right
[06:13] <anaoum> what package do i install for a text based irc client on linux?
[06:13] <Svenstaro> kindofabuzz_, theres adobe flash and openflash, which i dont remember the name of
[06:13] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes
[06:13] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: yes. checking for defects is optional
[06:13] <kindofabuzz_> Svenstaro: gnash i think
[06:14] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro...let me look at the browser plugin list...brb
[06:14] <sstoveld> k
[06:14] <kindofabuzz_> when i installed flash on fresh install it gave me option of gnash
[06:14] <sstoveld> here we go :D
[06:14] <Svenstaro> anaoum, its called "bitchx"
[06:14] <anaoum> thanks
[06:14] <Radit> Svenstaro: When clicking a psd file through nautilus, f-spot doesn't shows a white image instead of the image.. does nautilus show psd files like thumbnails?
[06:14] <Svenstaro> Radit, not by default, you might need a plugin for that
[06:14] <bazhang> anaoum: there is irssi if you wish
[06:14] <prince_jammys> anaoum: irssi. bitchx is not supported any more, i think (though it's there)
[06:15] <Svenstaro> try irssi then, my fault
[06:15] <anaoum> i need something that runs on centos 5 :(
[06:15] <bazhang> anaoum: you are not using ubuntu?
[06:15] <hischild> what are the current file systems that are recommended for an external drive?
[06:15] <Radit> Svenstaro: do you know any? or know where to look?
[06:15] <sstoveld> hmm it seems like nothing is happening now, i got some status bar that filled up then it went to this black screen and now my monitors are blank, and my keyboard lights and monitor lights are flashing
[06:15] <anaoum> i am on all my desktops/laptops
[06:15] <anaoum> but i have a vps server running centos5
[06:15] <Svenstaro> hischild, fat32 for sticks, ext3 for platters
[06:15] <belkinhelp2> svenstaro....shockwave flash
[06:15] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: i just read on the firfox forums that some people fixed it by clearing there cache in firefox
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, platters being?
[06:16] <Svenstaro> Radit, sorry. no. You might try google on that
[06:16] <Radit> ok, thx..
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, external ones with drives in them?
[06:16] <THISGUYNEW> How do i uninstall Sound Drivers in Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Svenstaro> hischild, everything that rotates at 7200 rpm and uses a magnetic head to write bits
[06:16] <belkinhelp2> kindofabuzz...my cache is cleared everytime i close the browser
[06:16] <kindofabuzz_> oh ok
[06:16] <hischild> Svenstaro, mine rotates 5400rpm but ok ... ext3 it is
[06:17] <THISGUYNEW> I Need to uninstall my sound drivers in ubuntu
[06:17] <sstoveld> hmm should i just restart computer and try this again? nothing happening :P
[06:17] <belkinhelp2> this is off topic but does anyone know a good channel where people discuss the upcoming global financial collapse...illuminati type stuff?
[06:18] <bazhang> not here belkinhelp2 thanks
[06:18] <THISGUYNEW> Is There a way to uninstall sound drivers in Ubuntu?
[06:18] <kindofabuzz_> belkinhelp2: just also read some people switched to an older version on flash and it helped
[06:18] <belkinhelp2> bazhang....i was just assuming linux users were more "aware" than their windows counterparts
[06:18] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, "sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa", but you really dont wanna do that
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, why not ^^
[06:19] <belkinhelp2> bazhang....looking for that "meeting at the docks" if you get my drift
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i just want my USB Headsets to work
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, recordmydesktop is conflicting and junk
[06:19] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, then you need alsa, no uninstalling
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro,  =(
[06:19] <bazhang> belkinhelp2: offtopic here thanks
[06:19] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro,  what should i type tho if not that?
[06:19] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, disable the inputs/outputs as you need in the system volume panel
[06:20] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i am confused :(
[06:21] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, am a linux newbie :(
[06:21] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, well, what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[06:21] <kindofabuzz_> woohoo! chatzilla as a seperate process! http://chatzilla.rdmsoft.com/xulrunner/
[06:21] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i just want to uninstall my sound card and have only my USB Head sets working
[06:22] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW, that wont work like it does in windows, in linux theres one global sound driver for all your sound stuff
[06:22] <kindofabuzz_> lemme close this in case it interfers,,i'll be back
[06:22] <zewb> strange
[06:22] <scream_sayonara> why wouldnt i have "software properties" in my system menu?
[06:22] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, how do i find out what the name of my USB MiC Aspect is called?
[06:23] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: you're back. so you are installing libdvdcss now?
[06:23] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, cause recordMyDesktop asks for a device
[06:23] <sstoveld> hey guys am i doing something wrong here? maybe my burn didnt work? when i go to install ubuntu i get the status bar saying loading linux kerner, then it goes to some black screen, then my monitors go blank and nothing happens :S
[06:23] <Svenstaro> THISGUYNEW when you plug it in, type into a terminal "sudo lsusb" and watch out for something that could be it
[06:23] <Syko> Compiz? Problem:  When going from "None" on visual effects to "Normal" or "extra" I get a white screen.. Any Ideas for this one?
[06:23] <zewb> apt-cache search shows all sorts of software to run telnet muds but no telnet bbses
[06:23] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, it gives me a bunch of junk
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> prince_jammys: yeah well i downloaded these two files but i dont know what to do with them.. so i went to the help page and now im trying to add these respository things because there's pretty succint instructions on how to do this from there
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> except i dont have the menu options that they do
[06:24] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, theres nothing like Device USBMic
[06:24] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:24] <marjan> !x-rar
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x-rar - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> unbuntu
[06:24] <scream_sayonara> -n :)
[06:24] <jaek> hmm whats a good tv tuner program, xawtv is sooo old school and tvtime isnt working for me
[06:25] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: try this: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3
[06:25] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:25] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i am lost :(
[06:25] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: let me know what happens
[06:25] <andross> hi anybody knows how to fix the sound problem with the 82801H (ICH8 Family) card? I know i have to download a package but I dont remember it's name
[06:25] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, its like set to Device : DEFAULT
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, i need to put my USB Headset device in that thing
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, and i dont know the name exactly
[06:26] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:26] <scream_sayonara> o_O and then what?
[06:26] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: now paste this command::  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:26] <THISGUYNEW> Svenstaro, anymore ideas man?
[06:27] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that will automatically install libdvdcss2
[06:27] <scream_sayonara> command not found?
[06:28] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: was the install of libdvdread3 successful?
[06:29] <scream_sayonara> can i paste in here what it says?
[06:29] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: only if it's one or two lines
[06:29] <jetscreamer> !paste
[06:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[06:29] <marjan> does any one knows how can i open a X-rar
[06:30] <scream_sayonara> well it says, reading package lists, done, building tree thing, done, livdvdthing is already the newest version, libdvd set to maunal installed
[06:30] <scream_sayonara> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 59 not upgraded.
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> after i did the first one...
[06:31] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: that means it was installed already
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> but when i typed the first thing it said it wasnt,
[06:31] <scream_sayonara> and i cant play my dvd ;p
[06:31] <marjan> !unrar
[06:31] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:31] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: check one more time: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:32] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: cut and paste it
[06:32] <niketas> Guys, who knows how to bind an "—" for "Alt Gr"+"-" combination?
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> i did cut and paste it and says command not found
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> administrator@administrator-desktop:~$ sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:32] <scream_sayonara> sudo: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: command not found
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ok hold on
[06:33] <scream_sayonara> :)
[06:33] <scream_sayonara> thank you, prince of helpful
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: they changed where it is
[06:33] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[06:34] <scream_sayonara> sweet that looks like its working
[06:35] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: now *hopefully* you can play dvds. if you can't, we'll see if you need plug-ins or something
[06:35] <j_> Hey, How many Bytes are in a BMP PIXEL?????
[06:35] <marjan> !unrar
[06:35] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:35] <Ademan_> j_: 24 generally
[06:36] <j_> right, but there can be from like 1 to 32?
[06:36] <scream_sayonara> nah they both still say they will not
[06:36] <moe_> hay i removed vista last week and i'm using ubuntu and i just have to say UBUNTU IS THE BEST (OS) THE WORLD WILL EVER SEE but i got it all right i just nead some help can anyone please help me
[06:36] <j_> er
[06:36] <j_> 24 sry
[06:36] <j_> i mean
[06:36] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: first let's see if we got step one out of the way:  apt-cache policy libdvdcss2
[06:36] <j_> 1-12
[06:36] <j_> 1-24
[06:36] <j_> 1 is like gray
[06:36] <zewb> they have synchronet for ubuntu but i don't like synchronet that much
[06:36] <scream_sayonara> yeah thats on there
[06:37] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: ok
[06:37] <zewb> i wish there was a telnet bbs server in the ubuntu repo
[06:37] <Ademan_> j_: well 24 bits anyways, and i'm not quite sure exactly how "low" it will go, 1 bit per pixel would be monochrome, which i didn't think it supported
[06:37] <Ademan_> zewb: lol!
[06:37] <j_> yes
[06:37] <j_> mono
[06:37] <j_> 1 = monochrome palette. NumColors = 1
[06:37] <j_> 4 = 4bit palletized. NumColors = 16
[06:37] <j_> 8 = 8bit palletized. NumColors = 256
[06:37] <j_> 16 = 16bit RGB. NumColors = 65536 (?)
[06:37] <j_> 24 = 24bit RGB. NumColors = 16M
[06:37] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: you use Totem ?
[06:37] <j_> but this teacher of mine
[06:38] <j_> asked a question, how many bytes are in 1 pixel on a BMP
[06:38] <j_> so i was like WTF
[06:38] <j_> was a singular
[06:38] <j_> answer
[06:38] <scream_sayonara> ive got totem and kaffeine
[06:39] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: use "synaptic" or "sudo apt-get install" the plug-ins in this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html
[06:39] <Ademan_> anyone here use something other than gnome-terminal and konsole ? i'm not dissatisfied, just curious if there's anything else worthwhile out there, and no one say xterm :-p
[06:39] <prince_jammys> scream_sayonara: dvds are a pain, because of legal issues
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: yakuake
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: or "tilda" for gnome
[06:40] <Ademan_> prince_jammys: ah yeah, forgot about those, they're pretty cool, ultimately i decided i didn't need them though
[06:40] <j_> my teacher hadme write a paper on opensource stuff today ;D, was about linux check it out
[06:40] <Ademan_> i just discovered Eterm, but that didn't provide anything terribly exciting imho
[06:40] <prince_jammys> Ademan_: i can't live without my yakuake
[06:41] <j_> http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/issue3_3/raymond/
[06:41] <etyl> Hi, my mouse isn't working. Can anyone tell me the default shortcut for either the gnome menu or the equivalent of windows' start>run ?
[06:41] <j_> ctrl f2?
[06:41] <sstoveld> hey guys, i seem to be having a problem installing ubuntu, can anyone help?
[06:41] <j_> etyl
[06:41] <prince_jammys> alt f2
[06:41] <bazhang> etyl: alt f2
[06:41] <j_> alt f2, sry
[06:42] <etyl> j_, thanks, now i can google on something other than the console :)
[06:42] <Ademan_> !ask | sstoveld
[06:42] <ubotu> sstoveld: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[06:42] <j_> lol
[06:42] <sstoveld> :) ok
[06:42] <j_> why did they wanna make Kubuntu a whole new release
[06:43] <sstoveld> well im trying to install ubuntu, but im having a problem. i boot from cd, choose start or install linux, then i get the status bar saying loading linux kernet, then it goes to some black screen, then my monitors go blank, and the lights on them flash like they would if the computer were turned off, and my keyboard lights are flashing too
[06:44] <j_> ok
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, I got you, please try hardy
[06:44] <j_> well i know sstoveld
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, sadly you have an ACPI problem :(
[06:44] <sstoveld> hardy?
[06:44] <j_> you need to load up safe mode, cuz of your video drivers, or Mobo
[06:44] <j_> just do safe
[06:44] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, the development version, hang on, it fixes the prob
[06:44] <sstoveld> oh, so try it in safe mode? ok let me try that
[06:44] <prince_jammys> sstoveld: or use the alternate cd
[06:44] <Iceman_B> greetings, anyone know how to make a SATA drive visible in 7.10 ?
[06:45] <light50> does anyone know if ooo has support channel?
[06:45] <Svenstaro_> prince_jammys he wont have success booting the system after installing from alternate
[06:45] <j_> nono sstoveld, same happened to me, just use the Safe install, like second option down on boot screen
[06:45] <Iceman_B> I have 2 sata drives, the first one seems to have both paritions mounted, the second one(sdb?) is nohere to eb found
[06:45] <sstoveld> ok let me try it quick
[06:45] <zewb> does anyone know of any unofficial repositories that would have telnet bbs software?
[06:45] <spartan7> can anyone help me with my sound?
[06:45] <prince_jammys> Svenstaro_: you mean he has no option other than installing hardy?
[06:45] <sstoveld> Start Ubuntu  in safe graphics mode?
[06:46] <sstoveld> this will install it?
[06:46] <Svenstaro_> prince_jammys if he's bitten by the ACPI problem, then yes
[06:46] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, yes try that first
[06:46] <sstoveld> ok
[06:46] <sstoveld> nope, no good
[06:47] <foobar> exit
[06:47] <Svenstaro_> sstoveld, Im afraid you need to try hardy, let me hand you a link.
[06:48] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/ubuntu-8.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso
[06:48] <bluefoxx> someone asked if anyone tired the Hardy Heron Beta yet? i am running it now, and i have to say that other than a error with the bootup on my newer machine and having to hunt down certain programs, its kickass fully instaled. there is no way im going back to gutsy now XD
[06:48] <sstoveld> what is hardy? like a beta of a new release?
[06:48] <prince_jammys> yes
[06:48] <bazhang> !hardy
[06:48] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[06:49] <Ademan_> http://antony.lesuisse.org/qweb/trac/wiki/AjaxTerm   WOW! has anyone seen this? pretty cool idea (though it seems to be slow as piss) basically access to your machine when all you've got is a web browser :-)
[06:49] <sstoveld> ah
[06:49] <bluefoxx> i just have to get it to boot from a scsi drive on my other comp
[06:49] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, its got a better chance of working for you, im sorry it didnt work so far
[06:49] <spartan7> can someone please help me with my sound problem  :P
[06:49] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 please for hardy discussion thanks
[06:49] <sstoveld> good thing i just stocked up on dvds :D
[06:49] <sstoveld> haha its no problem, i expected some issues having it being the first time doing this, its not your fault
[06:50] <Iceman_B> nobody around with sata hdd expertise?
[06:50] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, I do, what up?
[06:50] <sstoveld> going to take a while to download this iso though unfortunately :(
[06:51] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: I have 2 SATA ports on my mobo, both with a drive. Im trying to mount the second one(SDB?) which contains 1 NTS partition
[06:51] <Iceman_B> but ubuntu can find it
[06:51] <Iceman_B> *can't
[06:51] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, bios update :)
[06:51] <niketas> Ubuntu-people, I'm just stuck: how to bind a symbol for a certain key combination? Like an — for "AltGr"+"-"
[06:51] <Iceman_B> no I mean it works in windows, I forgot to say
[06:51] <niketas> Is it a matter or a keyboard layout?
[06:52] <Iceman_B> so its there
[06:52] <kindofabuzz_> what would be the command to make a folder and its contents readable and executable? chmod r+x <folder>?
[06:52] <pler> boebu
[06:52] <Starnestommy> kindofabuzz_: chmod -R +x folder
[06:52] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, while ur downloading we'll try around a bit, put in the ubuntu disk and boot it to the boot menu
[06:52] <kindofabuzz_> Starnestommy: thanks
[06:52] <sstoveld> ok im there
[06:52] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, press "e", you can now edit the boot parameters
[06:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, it should be a rather long string
[06:53] <spartan7> Im having problems getting sound to play on my ICH8 sound card can anyone help?
[06:53] <sstoveld> hmm nothing seems to happen when i press e
[06:53] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, second
[06:53] <j_> what kind of comp, sstoveld
[06:53] <sstoveld> boot menu is where it displays the options to install and such, correct?
[06:54] <Iceman_B> thanks anyway Svenstaro, I'll try mucking around in fstab
[06:54] <sstoveld> what do you mean by what kind?
[06:54] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes, hang on a bit im gonna put in my own boot disc so I get an idea of what im telling you
[06:54] <j_> the CD boot mentu
[06:54] <sstoveld> k
[06:54] <j_> well u dont need to sven
[06:54] <j_> just google it
[06:54] <j_> images
[06:54] <j_> its on there
[06:54] <Svenstaro> j_, he's got a ACPI problem :(
[06:55] <j_> well his screen goes blank?
[06:55] <Svenstaro> yup, and kernel panic
[06:55] <sstoveld> ok well, when i press F6, i get this string that says boot options
[06:55] <Svenstaro> ah right
[06:55] <anaoum> hello, i am using pidgin - what do the symbols next to the usernames mean?
[06:55] <Svenstaro> yes go to its end
[06:55] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, go to its end, do you see a "splash" somewhere?
[06:55] <sstoveld> yes, last thing there says splash --
[06:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, remove "quiet splash" and boot
[06:56] <sstoveld> leave -- in there?
[06:56] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yes
[06:56] <Svenstaro> ultimately, you can now boot ubuntu, if not it will at least display some messages and errors
[06:57] <prince_jammys> anaoum: i don't use pidgin, but they probably show whether a user is an op
[06:57] <sstoveld> ok i see a lot of stuff going on here now
[06:57] <Svenstaro> thats good
[06:57] <anaoum> yes prince, that is what i thought
[06:57] <anaoum> if i join a new channel, i automatically become an op?
[06:57] <prince_jammys> anaoum: heh
[06:58] <sstoveld> ooh here we go :D
[06:58] <Iceman_B> anaoum: if its empty, then usually yes
[06:58] <sstoveld> uh oh...
[06:58] <prince_jammys> anaoum: oh i see. your own channel.
[06:58] <anaoum> yeh
[06:58] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, waht up?
[06:58] <anaoum> eg /join #anaoum
[06:58] <sstoveld> well it finished going crazy, displayed some new colorful screen and heard some sound, then it all went blank
[06:59] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, uhoh
[06:59] <anaoum> how do i let other people that have joined become "ops"
[06:59] <Terrasque> sstoveld: seems like it just developed a new form of crazy
[06:59] <sstoveld> lol
[06:59] <Iceman_B> does ubuntu have a hotkey equivalent to the windowskey+D
[06:59] <Iceman_B> (excuse my cursing)
[06:59] <anaoum> Iceman_B: control a d
[07:00] <anaoum> sorry, control ALT D
[07:00] <Iceman_B> ah, nifty, thanks anaoum :)
[07:00] <sstoveld> ooh
[07:00] <sstoveld> hang on...
[07:00] <sstoveld> im in
[07:00] <spartan7> Im having problems getting sound to play on my ICH8 sound card can anyone help me before I go insane?  :P
[07:00] <sstoveld> omg i feel like an idiot...
[07:00] <anaoum> and the uqivilent of windows key is alt f1
[07:01] <sstoveld> i think my monitor just turned off its display
[07:01] <anaoum> and windows r = alt f2
[07:01] <sstoveld> just had to move the mouse :D
[07:01] <bazhang> aha
[07:01] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, ah yeah that happens sometimes to me :)
[07:01] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, anyway, grats
[07:01] <sstoveld> hehe
[07:01] <sstoveld> ok so now what do i have to do here? just double click the install icon?
[07:01] <zewb> are there any virtual modems for ubuntu?
[07:02] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, yeah or just have a look around :)
[07:02] <sstoveld> hehe this looks niiiiiice :D
[07:02] <sstoveld> just to make sure here, i can still use dual monitors yes?
[07:03] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, sure
[07:04] <sstoveld> hehe this is real nice :D
[07:04] <zewb> lol one thing i hate about community-driven software is that if you need help doing something that nobody cares about anymore, like running a telnet bbs, you're SOL.
[07:05] <lyte> zewb: you can always offer to pay for support... people tend to care when you do
[07:05] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: what if I manually add my second sata drive to fstab? would that work you think?
[07:05] <zewb> lol
[07:06] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, do "sudo apt-get install gparted" and then "sudo gparted" and look the hdd up
[07:06] <Iceman_B> oh thanks
[07:06] <Iceman_B> Iĺl try that
[07:07] <sstoveld> ok so now, how do i set up my dual monitors? like in windows i would just right click desktop and go to appearance tab or whatever it was
[07:07] <Arenlor> I've been searching this for a while to find this post I used before to make a minimal install but can't find it, it listed the packages needed for a basic GNOME install from the alternate CD's text only option, anyone know where it is?
[07:07] <spartan7> is there a channel who's forte is sound issues?
[07:07] <bazhang> #alsa spartan7
[07:07] <kindofabuzz> i'm back =)
[07:07] <spartan7> there alseep
[07:08] <spartan7> ;)
[07:08] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, hang on a sec
[07:08] <sstoveld> k
[07:08] <kindofabuzz> sstoveld: you on linux yet?
[07:08] <sstoveld> ya
[07:08] <kindofabuzz> right on!
[07:08] <sstoveld> :D
[07:09] <sstoveld> well its installing, but im browsing :D
[07:09] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, system -> settings -> screens and graphics
[07:09] <kindofabuzz> cool
[07:09] <nomopofomo> Is anyone aware of how to configure MythTV as a UPnP server?
[07:09] <Svenstaro> or something like that, im using the german localization
[07:09] <kindofabuzz> Svenstaro: wasn't that you talking bad about chatzilla?
[07:09] <Svenstaro> NO
[07:10] <kindofabuzz> k
[07:10] <nox-Hand> I am looking to build an installable Ubuntu Linux redistribution for release for our schools laptops. I.e I will change bootsplash, themes, default installed apps, settings and more. How would I get this onto an installable CD where you change user name at install or something?
[07:10] <sstoveld> hmm i dont see that, i have preferences, or administration in my system menu
[07:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu-mythtv will be experts on that nomopofomo
[07:11] <sstoveld> and i dont see screen and graphics in either of them :(
[07:11] <kindofabuzz> doesn't the OEM install do what nox is talking about?
[07:11] <Svenstaro> administration it is, right sstoveld
[07:11] <nomopofomo> bazhang, thank you
[07:11] <Iceman_B> Svenstaro: it doesnt show in gparted either. I must say it was and is showing when I boot under windows, but I am having unexplicable errors
[07:11] <sstoveld> ah gotcha :D
[07:11] <Iceman_B> thanks again tho
[07:11] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, this is most strange
[07:12] <bazhang> nox-Hand: you are going to individually install them one by one on each laptop?
[07:12] <Iceman_B> is there any way to force ubuntu to do a scan of the...whatever it is SATA drives connect to ?
[07:13] <J-_> How do I restart the sound server? /etc/init.d/alsa restart?
[07:13] <xfn> m
[07:13] <nox-Hand> bazhang: Roger that is currently the idea. We are not sure whether this will be installed as default on laptops or as option for the moment.
[07:14] <bazhang> nox-Hand: there is a tool for doing that remix kind of thing similar to reconstructor on fedora; cant remember the name at the moment
[07:14] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, hang on
[07:15] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, fdisk -l, if doesnt show there you are fuxored :/
[07:15] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, ah wait, is it about a whole disk or a partition?
[07:16] <Iceman_B> er both?
[07:16] <Iceman_B> its one drive, connected to the second sata port on my mobo, it contains one ntfs partition
[07:16] <kevin> hello, i was wondering if it is possible to pre-order and pay for a copy of ubuntu 8.04?
[07:17] <Iceman_B> which Im trying to mount to /media/some_dir
[07:17] <bazhang> http://uck.sourceforge.net/ this might be it nox-Hand
[07:17] <Svenstaro> Iceman_B, okay, if it doesnt show in gparted you most likely have it attached to some very foreign controler
[07:17] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l
[07:17] <sstoveld> hmm ok so when i go in there, it says screen 2 is unknown, so i select the make and model, but i cant select secondary screen, it is greyed out
[07:17] <Svenstaro> kevin, ubuntu is totally free
[07:17] <Iceman_B> wierd, im using an Asus A7V-600 mobo
[07:18] <Iceman_B> not the strangest of mobo\s I'day
[07:18] <jetscreamer> fdisk -l
[07:18] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, I'm gonna guide you on this on you installed ubuntu
[07:18] <agent> hi room
[07:18] <sstoveld> haha, i love you :D
[07:18] <sstoveld> hi, agent
[07:19] <bazhang> kevin: you will likely need to wait until after the final release to get it; shipit or osdisc (both do that, one for free)
[07:19] <kevin> ok
[07:19] <alan_m> you COULD use an alpha cd of ubuntu, but thats not gonna be supported in here, and i should drop it, which i will now. :)
[07:20] <agent> So, i have a problem and i just remembered that there is a chat room!  so here goes!  i am running a multiple video card setup. i have 2 geforce2 cards in my system.  Both are working but i cant get the second card to work with any other driver than the nv one.
[07:20] <bazhang> um beta, and discussed in #ubuntu+1 ;]
[07:20] <alan_m> alpha..beta...its something dangit :)
[07:20] <agent> i was wondering if there is a problem with using the same driver on 2 cards at once
[07:20] <alan_m> lol
[07:20] <Svenstaro> sstoveld highlight me when youre done
[07:21] <Svenstaro> agent, dont you need the nvidia legacy driver?
[07:21] <sstoveld> oh you meant when i installed ubuntu
[07:21] <sstoveld> ok Svenstaro, it just finished installing, restarting now
[07:21] <agent> i opened the restricted driver manager and checked both of 'em
[07:22] <agent> legacy and regular
[07:22] <bazhang> why legacy?
[07:22] <agent> the one that is workin' is a geforce2 mx 400 the other is a geforce 2 GTS
[07:22] <philip__> hello everyone
[07:22] <philip__> any support here
[07:22] <agent> the legacy driver doesnt happen to use a different name than 'nvidia' does it?
[07:23] <alan_m> sure we support in here, what seems to be your issue your having?
[07:23] <jetscreamer> no it doesn't
[07:23] <agent> thought not
[07:23] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, the install finished and it said to complete, restart now. so i restarted and now nothing is happening :( monitors are blank again, and this time its not cause the display shut off haha
[07:23] <philip__> i got a question, is their anyone who knows how to install the Retail Management System in ubuntu?
[07:24] <philip__> have anyone try this?
[07:24] <bazhang> philip__: what is that?
[07:24] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, when you are at the grub (the boot manager), press esc while the time is running out, you should have 3 seconds
[07:24] <subfreeze> I rebooted my Ubuntu 7.10 laptop and ran into "1.044000 Kernel Panic- Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)".  Kind of sucks, anyone know how to fix this? I get it in normal bootup and single user bootup (safe mode).
[07:24] <philip__> well i have RMS (Retail Management System  and i want it to install in ubuntu using wine, anyone tried this before?
[07:25] <sstoveld> oh, when i was restarting it told me to take out the cd in the tray and press enter. going to put it back in now
[07:25] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, no dont
[07:25] <Svenstaro> we wont need it
[07:25] <philip__> bazhang have you tried this before?
[07:25] <bazhang> philip__: no idea what that is; have you checked winehq's appdb?
[07:25] <sstoveld> oh ok
[07:25] <subfreeze> hmm
[07:25] <mtx1>  xxxpasshacks
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, when booting, you should see some "press esc to enter menu" after which it boots, well youre gonna press esc there
[07:26] <agent> i assume that the driver works since the mx400 runs glxgears and glxinfo shows rendern'
[07:26] <sstoveld> Svenstaro, im at the screen after the grub
[07:26] <philip__> ahh ic....ok i'll check this one
[07:26] <agent> but the gx?  nuthin
[07:26] <sstoveld> yes im there now, 3 different selections to choose from now
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, if you see different boot entries now, thats is grub youre seeing :)
[07:26] <bazhang> !appdb | philip__
[07:26] <ubotu> philip__: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[07:26] <sstoveld> oh ok i see :)
[07:26] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, choose the first and press "e", go to the end and remove splash and quiet
[07:27] <sstoveld> i dont see splash, just quiet, so i removed quiet
[07:27] <Svenstaro> k
[07:28] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, if you think it brakes, just wait a bit, it might work anyway
[07:28] <Svenstaro> if not, youll at least see some error
[07:28]  * alan_m gets the can of troll-b-gon out
[07:28] <subfreeze> Anyone have an idea on my kern. panic issue on bootup?
[07:28] <agent> 9639 is the nvidia driver version that should be runnin' right?
[07:28] <sstoveld> ok, so what do i do after i remove quiet? :)
[07:28] <nox-Hand> bazhang: Will give it a look, thanks :)
[07:28] <sstoveld> hit esc?
[07:28] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, oh right, press enter and then "b"
[07:29] <bazhang> nox-Hand: no worries ;]
[07:29] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, it should boot you up
[07:29] <fol> chris
[07:29] <bazhang> agent this is on gutsy? and that is what the restricted drivers manager has? then should be the right ones, yes
[07:29] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Anyone have any experience with usb mice not being recognized when plugged in after you've logged in already?
[07:29] <fol> server.telkom.net
[07:30] <Svenstaro> sstoveld, im sorry, i wasnt telling the correct thing, are you still are grub level?
[07:30] <agent> 7.10
[07:30] <Svenstaro> at*
[07:30] <OwNsYa> hey, im trying to install ssh server i do sudo apt-get install ssh. but the only packages that come up is ssh-askpass-gnome and ssh-client ?? lol
[07:30] <sstoveld> yes, im at the screen where i can remove the different entries here
[07:30] <sstoveld> where i removed quiet