[13:49] <MonkeyDust> Lace57  what hypn0 says, better ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:49] <Lace57> hypn0 i know it's not final yet. beta 2 is out though
[13:50] <Lace57> MonkeyDust ok
[13:50] <voldyman> anyone?
[13:50] <`prixon> I'm using 11.10. is there a way to go back to the old nautilus 2 look? where I could add to my toolbar functions like choosing between "compact view" or "icon view" and not to mention copy,paste, cut,...?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> `prixon  i use 11.10 and have compact view etc available, no prob
[13:52] <voldyman> is there anyother way to change home dir location on ubuntu ?
[13:52] <escott> !details | voldyman
[13:52] <cloudgeek> anything better than pentadactyl(any other command vi for browser) for firefox , if anybody using !
[13:52] <`prixon> MonkeyDust, how do yo do it?
[13:52] <voldyman> i want to change my home directory to a directory in another disk but usermod says no changes
[13:52] <whoam> aaa
[13:52] <voldyman> ubuntu version 11.10
[13:53] <`prixon> in 10.04 I put buttons on the toolbar for choosing the view of the files and the percentage of their size
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> `prixon  i use ubuntu classic, maybe that's what making the difference
[13:53] <`prixon> ohh
[13:53] <`prixon> so I can't use those functions in unity?
[13:54] <viktor> can anybody tell me how to make a higher resolution available. the currently highest available isn't sufficient for my monitor
[13:55] <haqking> @ viktor what is your GPU and what res does it support and what drivers are you using ?
[13:55] <voldyman> i am trying to change the location of my home dir to another disk. googling around found usermod but it says no changes and does not work
[13:56] <haqking> @ voldyman https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[13:56] <`prixon> MonkeyDust, ?
[13:56] <viktor> haqking, highest res supported 1280x1024, driver is the opensource for my card (Radeon Xpress 200M) (think it's called flrgx), what is "GPU"?
[13:57] <escott> voldyman, you need to be more specific about what you have tried and what error messages you have seen
[13:57] <haqking> gpu is your graphics processor which you answered really with radeon 200m
[13:57] <voldyman> haqking: tried it but there only one difference it is about moving home to a dedicated disk whereas i am moving to a directory in another disk
[13:58] <voldyman> after i used the method from the wiki my home dir stopped mounting
[13:58] <haqking> and what resolutiuon are you currently running at and what res do you want ?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> `prixon dont know, i dont like/use Unity
[13:59] <`prixon> but in 11.10 I can't use gnome do. and I didn't find a way in awn to search for apps
[13:59] <satyanash> `prixon, YOu oculd use SYnapse
[13:59] <voldyman> escott: i tried editing fstab which caused my home dir to stop mounting, i tried "usermod -md /media/data/home voldyman" which said no changes
[13:59] <viktor> haqking, running 1280x800, that's enough 4 my laptop screen, but i got a VGA cable connected to a 30" screen that requires min 2560x800
[13:59] <satyanash> `prixon, instead of Gnome DO you could use Synapse.. to search apps and files.
[13:59] <haqking> @ voldyman do you want to move the whole /home as you can just edit user-dir.dirs file to point to a different location for docs.pics etc etc
[14:00] <haqking> @ viktor but if your card only supports 1280x1024 you wont get 2560x800
[14:01] <voldyman> i want to move the whole /home as user-dir.dirs does not move all dirs
[14:01] <haqking> you cant get better res than your gpu supports
[14:01] <`prixon> does it also function like docky as a window manager?
[14:02] <escott> voldyman, and what does grep voldyman /etc/passwd list as the home directory
[14:02] <alteregoa> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[14:03] <escott> voldyman, also you would have to have a "sudo" in that usermod command, and would want to run it when you are not logged in (ie run it from a rescue prompt or a livecd, or another admin user)
[14:03] <voldyman> it says /media/data/home
[14:03] <voldyman> escott: i had logged in from another account and used sudo
[14:03] <jason0990> hi everybody
[14:04] <viktor> haqking, you're right, that's not gonna work... i got another comp here but i don't know the gpu, could you give me the command again to find that out? i forgot...
[14:04] <escott> voldyman, ok your home is moved. hence the "no changes"
[14:05] <voldyman> but the files have not moved -m did not work
[14:05] <escott> voldyman, then move them manually with sudo mv
[14:05] <voldyman> ok, i'll try it now
[14:06]  * whoam haha
[14:06] <viktor> haqking, nevermind, got it
[14:06] <viktor> thnks for the help
[14:06] <`prixon> satyanash, synapse is exactly like the new gnome do - no dock to manage windows
[14:07] <satyanash> `prixon, ohh you want to manage windows..I thought you wanted to just get to files..
[14:08] <satyanash> and apps.
[14:08] <satyanash> `prixon, AFAIK, GNome Do != Docky
[14:08] <whoam> msg whoami nihao
[14:09] <haqking> @ vikto yeah make sure your grfx card supports the res you want for tv out
[14:09] <haqking> @ viktor *
[14:09] <`prixon> yeah, do got separated from docky. so if I go back to classic gnome, I can't manage windows with gnome-do
[14:10] <`prixon> everything is collapsing! 10.04 was the best and now things get ruined. nautilus sucks, unity sucks, gnome-do not functioning
[14:10] <Caifas> how can I stop linux from boot if a condition is not met?
[14:11] <bekks> Caifas: Which condition besides a powered on computer?
[14:11] <crackerjackz> hello, i installed windows and messed up grub. i am trying to use the live cd to chroot into my linux install and fix grub. i am following this guide but i am a little confused can someone help me understand a couple things? http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[14:12] <crackerjackz> i'm on step 5.. what is /xx.xx/
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> !mbr| crackerjackz
[14:12] <compdoc> `prixon, naw, it still works great. just have to get used to it
[14:13] <rpbo> exit
[14:13] <Caifas> bekks: I want to check if the system hardware is the same I have listed on a file in my pendrive, if they are, the system boot, if not, system stop the boot process
[14:13] <alteregoa> crackerjackz, : heh do you like crackerjak food?
[14:13] <`prixon> nautilus3 is so basic. if you wish to change the method of displaying your files you have to enter the preferences each time. why?!?
[14:13] <bekks> Caifas: First,, you have to boot, before being able to compare something.
[14:14] <crackerjackz> alteregoa: i do but i actually got the idea of the name from a password cracker and i sometimes go by crackerhackz
[14:14] <escott> crackerjackz, xx.xx is where you mounted the ubuntu partition so it would be like mount /dev/sda# /media/ubuntu mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev
[14:14] <crackerjackz> escott: so what would it be if i mounted it to /mnt/myroot?
[14:15] <Caifas> bekks: hm... if I run a rc.local script that do the comparison I told, if they are not met I shutdown the system would work?
[14:16] <KamenRiderCure> Does smplayer support .MKV?
[14:16] <escott> crackerjackz, /mnt/myroot/dev
[14:16] <bekks> Caifas: You cant run a rc.local script without booting.
[14:17] <escott> crackerjackz, also if you have a separate /boot partition you have to mount that on /mnt/myroot/boot otherwise the instructions wont work
[14:17] <crackerjackz> escott: what about using boot-repair?
[14:17] <crackerjackz> i'm sitting here reading about it i'm on the computer right now from the live cd..
[14:17] <crackerjackz> it says.. Remark: this can also be performed from a live-CD or live-USB.  Either add ‘ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair’ to your Software Sources via the Software Centre or, for speeds-sake, add it using a new Terminal session:
[14:18] <crackerjackz> where exactly in the software center do i add that at?
[14:18] <escott> crackerjackz, don't know anything about boot-repair, i just use a chroot, but i know the chroot process so i dont need boot repair. bit of a chicken-and-egg problem
[14:18] <alteregoa> i wait for Zonked Zebrule, how long does it take?
[14:19] <crackerjackz> escott: i suppose ill go the hard way its good to know how things work
[14:19] <Caifas> bekks: yes, but, if I need to boot to compare, thats ok, if I can make the comparison before the user are able to use the system that's ok
[14:19] <`prixon> I don't understand why making nautilus3  "dumber" than nautilus2.x. and now many leave ubuntu and switch to linux mint
[14:20] <crackerjackz> escott: so would this be correct? sudo mount ‐‐bind /dev /mnt/myroot/dev ?
[14:20] <robertzaccour> good mornin yall
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> `prixon  know when to stop ranting
[14:21] <robertzaccour> I've got a fatal error problem with kdenlive. Any suggestions?
[14:21] <shallwe> hi guys
[14:21] <escott> crackerjackz, yes
[14:21] <shallwe> someone using ubuntu 12.04 + game Heroes of newerth?
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> shallwe  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:22] <`prixon> MonkeyDust,  it's my way of trying to under whether it's just me who's having troubles with it or maybe others have found solutions to that.
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> `prixon  gnome3 is controversial, there are plenty forums pro and con online
[14:24] <robertzaccour> kdenlive FATAL ERROR MLT's SDL module not found.
[14:24] <robertzaccour> whats this mean?
[14:24] <crackerjackz> escott: and if the root partition resides on /dev/sda2 then sudo grub-install /dev/sda2 is correct, right?
[14:25] <robertzaccour> Its a kdenlive error
[14:25] <escott> crackerjackz, no. grub-install /dev/sda you want it in the mbr which is accessed through /dev/sda not the pbr of partition 2
[14:25] <Guest84439> quelqu'un peut  m'aider pour faire une tunneling
[14:25] <crackerjackz> escott: thanks
[14:25] <zykotick9> !fr | Guest84439
[14:25] <savr> I have placed some synclient settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and they have been ignored after being woken from sleep. Why?
[14:25] <escott> crackerjackz, and you shouldnt need sudo because you did sudo chroot
[14:26] <crackerjackz> true but i accidentally did sudo anyways
[14:27] <crackerjackz> escott: okay i'm going to reboot now.. wish me luck. thanks in advanced
[14:28] <bunny68> i'm having this strange issue with incron... it gets triggered exactly 10 times within same second on simple file_close_write... wtf is this happening?
[14:28] <shredding> hey guys.
[14:29] <shredding> How can I move the ubuntu sidebar to the bottom?
[14:30] <haqking> shredding: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/how-to-move-unity-launcher-to-bottom-of.html
[14:30] <Kokain> I have a Windows question, is ok if I ask it here?
[14:30] <bunny68> useless chan as usual
[14:31] <haqking> @ kokain better in a windows forum, depends what it is ?
[14:31] <escott> savr, b/c xorg is only initialized once. your synaptics module is probably being removed prior to sleep. you can modify the thaw scripts to run the synclient commands on dethaw
[14:31] <shredding> oha, I have to install something to move it?
[14:31] <Kokain> I want to use command line for a program that it says that supports command line. Problem is how do I find the commands?
[14:32] <savr> escott, how?
[14:32] <haqking> shredding: its done with a compiz plugin
[14:32] <worm> Can I install .net based application in wine?
[14:32] <GirlyGirl> Kokain: go to ##windows
[14:32] <haqking> @kokain commands to do what
[14:32] <Kokain> example the program is Puran Defrag. I want to run it from CMD. I don't understand how though
[14:32] <GraemeLion> Kokain: What program, and what're you trying to do?
[14:32] <haqking> type ? or help
[14:33] <Kokain> there is no list of commands anywhere and I emailed Puran but Im still awaiting a reply
[14:33] <shredding> ok, I'll have a look into it.
[14:33] <shredding> thx
[14:33] <haqking> change to directory of program and execute it so something like cd /path/to/pogram nameofprogram.exe
[14:33] <fellayaboy> whats the best email encyrption where i dont need to give that person my public key..this is my first time and i thinksome of the people i email are less tech savy
[14:33] <Kokain> ok I will try windows channel. I know many Linux users are good with command line so this was my first clue to try :D
[14:34] <haqking> kokain: sorry linux on brain there i meant \ and not / ;-)
[14:34] <haqking> well it will be what i said
[14:34] <haqking> cd \program files\whatever and then type the name of the executable
[14:34] <fellayaboy> what encryption protocol gives me the option to not need a public key or a key where someone has to use...a simple email encryption where i just email it and they get it but no anyone else..i forgot the name
[14:35] <GraemeLion> fellayaboy: You cannot use encryption without having some way to decrypt it on the other side
[14:35] <Kokain> yes I've tried that but there is only PuranDefragGUI.exe
[14:35] <crackerjackz> escott, thank you, it worked
[14:35] <Kokain> so it just starts the GUI
[14:35] <haqking> right so type that and it should work
[14:35] <worm> Is there any command-line program in Ubuntu can send files to pastebin? Just like the wgetpaste command in Gentoo.
[14:36] <haqking> and its a gui so why running it from command line
[14:36] <compdoc> there is
[14:36] <haqking> just browse to that file and double click it
[14:36] <fellayaboy> Graemelion theres some encryption where on my side i do the encyrption set up and all they need to do is open it up
[14:36] <compdoc> but I dont know it
[14:36] <Kokain> from Puran web page - GUI and Console Command Line Defrag Supported
[14:36] <LLIypuk123678462> hi all
[14:36] <fellayaboy> im new to email encryption so the key would be right there when i email it to them? and theyh simply open it up or do they need a program
[14:36] <Kokain> thats the thing I dont want to start the GUI I want to use it like Windows 7 defrag
[14:36] <haqking> @fellaboy they cant just open soemthing encrypted or anyone could coulnt they, they need some way to decrypt it
[14:36] <GraemeLion> Kokain: I'm not entirely certain you need defrag here.
[14:36] <Kokain> example c:\defrag C: /a
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> Kokain  defrag is not needed in linux
[14:37] <alteregoa> defrag is needed on linux
[14:37] <jeblad-walkabout> Is there some way to either force unity to put menus on every screen or to tell it to leave menu bars on apps on secondary screens? It seems like Unity is seriously confused about where it should put global menus.
[14:37] <alteregoa> thats a myth
[14:37] <LLIypuk123678462> does anyone know how to create an efi boot loader for the live USB on mac?
[14:37] <fellayaboy> is a protocol i think it might be PGP where the key is sent with the email
[14:38] <alteregoa> any FS produces fragments if the disk is used and almost full
[14:39] <haqking> @ monkjeydust they are refering to windows not linux
[14:39] <escott> savr, /etc/pm sorry took a while to find the folder
[14:39] <haqking> @kokain well in the puran folder there is probably a dos executable
[14:40] <savr> escott, thanks!
[14:40] <haqking> you will need to wait for support from pruan if you cant find it
[14:40] <i7c> alteregoa: quote wikipedia: Linux ext2, ext3, and ext4: Much like UFS, these filesystems employ allocation techniques designed to keep fragmentation under control at all times. As a result, defragmentation is not needed in the vast majority of cases.
[14:40] <alteregoa> i7c thats simply not true
[14:40] <escott> fellayaboy, you want to put your key on a keyserver like the mit keyserver (and before you publish make sure you set a date for the key to become invalid
[14:41] <i7c> alteregoa: so you wanna say that ext4 does not do it?
[14:41] <Kokain> haqking yeah I cant find it
[14:41] <Kokain> im just trying this C:\Program Files\Puran Defrag> .\PuranDefragGUI.exe /help
[14:41] <Kokain> but it keeps loading the GUI and ignoring anything after /
[14:41] <savr> escott, so I can cp my script there?
[14:41] <alteregoa> if you have a file with 10gb size and not enough contingous space fragmentation occurs
[14:41] <haqking> right wel read it documentaion or readme in same folder, if not then wait for suport from i guess, i havent use that prgram before, but you can just use disk manager to defrag a disk
[14:41] <escott> savr, you'll have to investigate how that folder works, but something like that should work
[14:42] <newb> schroot copy /etc/passwd and /etc/group when I enter at chroot system?
[14:42] <alteregoa> and ext(xy) doesnt have a online defragmenter, only HFS+ defragments such files
[14:42] <_raven> do you know any OCR-Tool which is able to capture digits periodically to a file?
[14:42] <i7c> alteregoa: you dont say. sure it does, but it's tried to keep it under control means it only does it if necessary.
[14:42] <savr> escott, thanks I think I get it
[14:42] <haqking> @kokain well it will launch the gui, hence the gui in the name ;-)
[14:42] <llutz> fact is, there hadn't been a working defrag-solution for ext-fs for years, which forces the myth "linux won't fragment". now there is e4defrag ...
[14:42] <Kokain> I know, no other .exe thouhg :(
[14:43] <Kokain> I wonder if its like 7zip, where I need to download different .exe in order for it to work
[14:43] <jeblad-walkabout> If a modern file system starts to fragment you probably won't be able to defrag it with an application running on the same storage system
[14:43] <haqking> well if its not a .exe then .cmd or something if not cant help sorry, peace
[14:43] <alteregoa> ext3 and ext4 are very rudimentary filesystems, they do not even support atomic operations
[14:43] <jeblad-walkabout> anyhow, anyone with an idea about how to get the menu bar to work in a decent way on a multi screen system?
[14:43] <alket> Is it possible to create deb package for ubuntu with binary files, basicly to put all the content on /opt/ ?
[14:44] <alteregoa> maybe BTRFS with online defragmentation and compression is the way to go for future
[14:44] <escott> alket, checkinstall
[14:44] <_raven> do you know any OCR-Tool which is able to capture digits periodically to a file?
[14:44] <alket> escott, thank you
[14:45] <sacarlson> _raven: ocr I never seen in linux but I havn't looked in some time,  what have you found so far?
[14:46] <pythonirc101> My apt-get update gives me the following errors: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/581361/
[14:46] <pythonirc101> Any ideas how to fix this?
[14:46] <_raven> sacarlson i am looking for something like that
[14:47] <llutz> _raven: have you looked at tessaract or cuneiform?
[14:47] <sacarlson> _raven: I know you looking but what have you found already?
[14:47] <sacarlson> _raven: I assume you use google to start?
[14:48] <_raven> sacarlson are theese comments helpful?
[14:49] <L3top> pythonirc101: what happens if you type: echo > testfile         in a terminal?
[14:49] <sacarlson> pythonirc101: I"ve seen someone that turned off the security repository I wonder if you did the same or you failed to sudo apt-get update;
[14:50] <sacarlson> _raven: yes they are but I had hope you would be a part of the research and I not be alone
[14:50] <_raven> ok
[14:50] <bootes> hello, quick question. when you get the "your are not in the sudoers file, this incident will be reported"   where is it reported?
[14:50] <jrib> pythonirc101: from your error: "Read-only file system"
[14:50] <sacarlson> _raven: as you are not my only progect
[14:51] <donavan01> can someone help me with resizing of a partition ... I am dual booting and took about 40gbs away from my windows part and I want to add it to my linux part but I cant figure out how to do it ... I am loaded up with a live usb and running GParted but I can figure out how to add space on
[14:51] <jrib> bootes: maybe /var/log/auth.log (guess)
[14:51] <L3top> I believe it exists in root mail... but not positive.
[14:51] <escott> donavan01, can you sent a screenshot of gparted
[14:51] <escott> !paste | donavan01
[14:52] <donavan01> escott ... uhh maybe
[14:52] <Guest29607> hi men
[14:53] <sacarlson> donavan01: I"m not sure gparted or anything linux would be the best to resize a ntfs partition as it's all reverse eng. to do that.  can't you find a windows app to do it?
[14:53] <jrib> bootes, L3top: yep, seems like you'll see a message in /var/log/auth.log as well as a mail sent to root
[14:53] <worm> Why every time I got to the IRC I received a message that my nick name was registered?
[14:53] <jrib> worm: probably because you aren't identifying?
[14:53] <LjL> worm: because it *is* registered by someone else, "worm" that is
[14:54] <donavan01> sacarlson ... the part isnt NTFS ... there is about 40gb of unallocated space and the that I want to add to my linux part
[14:54] <escott> sacarlson, he already shrunk it, and most of the time it works
[14:54] <sacarlson> donavan01: ok so you want to resize an extX to add the unpartitioned space?
[14:54] <Tarius> Hello people I hawe a small problem with pidgin ... In some time crash , but this problem is only on ubuntu
[14:54] <bootes> jrib and l3top..thanks found it.
[14:55] <sacarlson> donavan01: do you already have a /home partition?
[14:55] <Tarius> can anyone help me ? ... The log indicates GTK problem
[14:56] <worm> Is there any pastebin for Ubuntu? paste.ubuntu.com is not available if my Xorg-server was broken.
[14:56] <donavan01> hang on a sec im working on uploading the screen shot6
[14:56] <sacarlson> donavan01: 40 gb is big enuf for a root as about only 10gb will do
[14:56] <paulo_> how do i run something as www-data?
[14:56] <L3top> !pastebinit | worm
[14:57] <llutz> paulo_: su www-data -c sh whatever
[14:57] <donavan01> sacarlson ... I am trying to build an android kernel and the source code for that is huge ... I have eaten up almost 20gb with just the repositories and such I need for that
[14:57] <sacarlson> paulo_: what can't you run with www-data that you want to run?
[14:57] <sacarlson> paulo_: anything in /bin or /usr/bin will be able to run with www-data user
[14:59] <sacarlson> donavan01: ok you need it were at home I presume?  what space do you already have there?
[14:59] <worm> Can I use another application called "wgetpaste" in Ubuntu? It is available in Gentoo and I cannot find it in apt.
[14:59] <pythonirc101> L3top: Read-only file system....It was fine a few days ago!
[15:00] <sacarlson> worm: maybe something like pastebinit?
[15:00] <pythonirc101> sacarlson: sudo apt-get update is what shows that error
[15:00] <chos2en> need some help getting errors when trying to uninstall or install packages
[15:00] <pythonirc101> jrib: how do I fix a read-only file system...and how did I get a read only file system in the first place -- suddenly?
[15:00] <worm> sacarlson: But I hate remembering another command.
[15:00] <llutz> worm: create an alias
[15:00] <paulo_> how do I create a user that is not meant for login?
[15:01] <Tyrantelf> Our website/sendmail function is not sending mail.  Here is the mail.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/929630/  Could someone help me?
[15:01] <L3top> pythonirc101: boot to a live disk, and run fsck -f /dev/XXXX on the partition in question, as root. Do NOT mount the partition. Typically XXXX will be /dev/sda1  but use mount or df -T to be sure.
[15:01] <llutz> paulo_: sudo adduser --disabled-login ....
[15:01] <escott> pythonirc101, unclean shutdown leading to disk corruption. boot a livecd and run fsck on the partitons
[15:01] <donavan01> escott ...sacarlson ... here is a screen shot of my GParted    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71615452/Screenshot%20at%202012-04-14%2010_52_38.png
[15:01] <sacarlson> pythonirc101: did you check you repository list in synaptic?
[15:02] <L3top> You know... there is probably a way to force the OS to do a check...
[15:02] <L3top> on reboot
[15:02] <escott> donavan01, you would first have to extended partition 4 (the extended partition to the left). i believe that gparted can do that for you
[15:02] <L3top> I am sure of it, but do not know... anybody else?
[15:02] <ent_> anyone here got the horses on tv ?
[15:02] <llutz> L3top: sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo reboot
[15:02] <ent_> grand national
[15:03] <L3top> pythonirc101:  read llutz post, and execute that. Thanks llutz.
[15:03] <donavan01> escott ... its got a lock so I cant really do anythingwith sda4
[15:03] <Tyrantelf> Can anyone help?
[15:03] <L3top> skip the whole live boot thing. See if that doesn't fix you right up.
[15:04] <escott> donavan01, you can get fancy with things and delete the partitions 4-6 and then recreate them in place, but with the extended partition starting earlier. its not for the faint of heart, but it can be done
[15:05] <escott> donavan01, i've done it before in fdisk, but you have to be careful to get everything aligned exactly the way it was. i thought gparted had some feature to do this though
[15:05] <donavan01> escott ... being that I dont really have anything on this OS would I be better of just blowing it away and reinstalling
[15:05] <mblayman> hello, I'm experiencing a strange issue with shutdown that I can't figure out. I can shutdown graphically or from the command line, and the computer will seem to come to a complete halt (no obvious activity from the hard drive light), but the power doesn't turn off. Does anyone know how to debug this kind of issue? This is Ubuntu 12.04.
[15:05] <escott> donavan01, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[15:06] <paulo_> "paulo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." <-- that was funny.
[15:06] <sacarlson> donavan01: that strange that image doesn't tell me were the partitions are mounted,  I might asume that you linux root partition is /dev/sda6 so you might want to use /dev/sda4 as you /home partiton
[15:06] <robertzaccour> how do I delete part of a clip in kdenlive after using razor tool?
[15:06] <bekks> mblayman: 12.04 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only
[15:06] <paulo_> how do I add myself to the sudoers file? (i have root)
[15:06] <L3top> hmmm... can you touch a readonly fs?
[15:06] <mblayman> oh, ok. Thanks bekks. I'll try there.
[15:06] <Tyrantelf> Our website/sendmail function is not sending mail.  Here is the mail.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/929630/  I need this up soon, as people are registering and not receiving their welcome emails
[15:06] <llutz> paulo_: adduser paulo admin
[15:06] <donavan01> sacarlson that may be because I told the install to install along side of windows
[15:06] <paulo_> what if I'm already a user?
[15:07] <llutz> paulo_: adduser paulo admin
[15:07] <llutz> paulo_: that need the user existing already
[15:07] <ent_> anyone use IAX in here
[15:07] <ent_> AIX sorry
[15:07] <bekks> ent_: Why?
[15:07] <llutz> ent_: read the topic
[15:07] <bekks> Why is that relevant to Ubuntu?
[15:07] <paulo_> "The group `admin' does not exist."
[15:07] <sacarlson> donavan01: no mater you just cp -a  the file from you present /home to you new spare
[15:07] <llutz> paulo_: lsb_release -sc
[15:08] <sacarlson> donavan01: and change /etc/fstab to mount it as /home
[15:08] <paulo_> oneiric
[15:08] <llutz> paulo_: not a standard-installation
[15:08] <ent_> so - what about the topic
[15:08] <bekks> ent_: Why is it relevant to Ubuntu if someone in here uses AIX?
[15:09] <llutz> ent_: how is AIX related to ubuntu-support?
[15:09] <llutz> paulo_: "getent group admin"
[15:10] <sacarlson> donavan01: at some point you can move your media files to another partition when the time comes
[15:10] <paulo_> llutz: then?
[15:10] <ent_> no matter, there is obviously no one in here that uses AIX
[15:10] <llutz> paulo_: any output?
[15:10] <paulo_> none
[15:10] <brokenbrainedphi> I use AIX and SIP
[15:10] <L3top> As do I.
[15:11] <llutz> paulo_: what kind of installation is this, a VPS with provider-built iso?
[15:11] <Bennit> Hi, anyone else having problems with php5's cli not knowing SQLite3 extension?
[15:11] <donavan01> sacarlson ... I dont really have any media files im just trying to make a good build environment for android and things are hard enough to follow I think getting a fresh install would be best if I cant just increase the size of the part... I dont want to have stuff all over the place causeing issued later
[15:12] <Bennit> php site claims it's builtin, so I'm guessing it's a ubuntu configuration issue / thing
[15:12] <brokenbrainedphi> Bennit, if you use the correct PHP includes, it will know
[15:12] <sacarlson> donavan01: I don't have the numbers of what's already in /home so I can't be of any more help
[15:13] <donavan01> sacarlson ... /home is pretty big ... im guessing about 20gbs of stuff
[15:13] <sacarlson> donavan01: well then you can do the math you have about 20gb left
[15:13] <erpo> I'm looking for recommendations for a music program that will work well with my android phone. Its microsd card is smaller than my music collection.
[15:14] <brokenbrainedphi> erpo, that means what?
[15:14] <brokenbrainedphi> erpo, do you live in the USA?
[15:14] <sacarlson> donavan01: or leave some behind in root / if you don't need it in home. maybe leave some users in root
[15:14] <paulo_> llutz: This is a vps, and the provider installed it.
[15:15] <llutz> paulo_: so you'll have to install sudo on your own  if you want to use it
[15:15] <donavan01> sacarlson ... but I have to have the drive space allocated some how and I cant seem to resize the drives so how do I even use part of it
[15:16] <brokenbrainedphi> Hello? Erpo?
[15:16] <llutz> paulo_: you'll have to ask the provider for support, since nobody can know what further changes they made to the installation
[15:16] <brokenbrainedphi> Why ask a question, and then ignore the people trying to reply? This makes no sense to me...
[15:16] <kamilnadeem> Problem with proprietary drivers on ubuntu 12.04 beta 2
[15:16] <kamilnadeem> Every time the system starts(with nvidia drivers) my refresh rate is set to 87Hz http://i.imgur.com/7cXod.png because of which my monitor's pixel start to overbear and I have to manually select 60Hz and apply it every time I start my pc
[15:16] <sacarlson> donavan01: you must not understand mounting a partition into a file system
[15:16] <GraemeLion> Wai. who was doing android dev on Ubuntu?
[15:17] <brokenbrainedphi> Testing.... Can anyone hear me? (Read my words?)
[15:17] <Tyrantelf> Our website/sendmail function is not sending mail.  Here is the mail.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/929630/  I need this up soon, as people are registering and not receiving their welcome emails
[15:17] <bazhang> brokenbrainedphi, whats your ubuntu support question
[15:17] <ent_> is anyone using the gnome 3 for ubuntu 12.04 lts ?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> ent_  better ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:17] <brokenbrainedphi> I was trying to answer someone elses
[15:18] <kamilnadeem> brb
[15:18] <bazhang> ent_, gnome3 is in the lts, #ubuntu+1 for support
[15:18] <sacarlson> donavan01:  I'm not sure I'm in a state to make it clear
[15:18] <donavan01> sacarlson ... apparently not ... I get that you want me to create a part with the 40gb extra I now have and mount it but in doing so would that just give me another drive which I could use yes but then I would have part of my system on one drive and part on another
[15:19] <brokenbrainedphi> Tyrantelf, from the looks of it, your sendmail-MTA is working
[15:20] <brokenbrainedphi> have you tried sending email to a REAL email address?
[15:20] <sacarlson> donavan01: yes part of your system will be root /  and part /home,  but first to make it not effect your present system you just mount /dev/sda4 /tmp
[15:20] <sacarlson> donavan01: and cp -a /home /tmp
[15:21] <sacarlson> donavan01:  /tmp might not be a good place since it might already be used
[15:21] <brokenbrainedphi> lol
[15:21] <sacarlson> donavan01: I should have used /mnt
[15:21] <brokenbrainedphi> mkdir /tmphome/username
[15:22] <Tyrantelf> brokenbrainedphi: yes
[15:22] <josua27176> any people online tht can help me
[15:22] <Tyrantelf> josua, GTFO
[15:22] <josua27176> hi tyrant
[15:22] <brokenbrainedphi> cp /etc/skel /temphome/username -R
[15:22] <sacarlson> josua27176: yes about 1% of the 1602 poeple here can help you
[15:22] <brokenbrainedphi> umount /home
[15:22] <josua27176> lol k well tyrant needs help :P
[15:22] <bekks> ! ask | josua27176
[15:23] <brokenbrainedphi> mv /temphome/username /home/username
[15:23] <brokenbrainedphi> prollem solved
[15:23] <jc_> How do I show the grub menu? I need to run the memory test to check my memory? I am runningn11.10 and it normally just boots into ubuntu
[15:23] <tbrown> What is the best classic theam of ubnuntu. I dont want the apps on the side of the screen like that in Ubuntu 11.10 or which ever verison I got:(
[15:24] <brokenbrainedphi> did you get that donavan01?
[15:24] <bazhang> !notunity | tbrown
[15:24] <dr_willis> jc_:  hold th3e shift key as it boots for grub2
[15:24] <dr_willis> tbrown:  thats not a 'theme'  unity has the left side panel. the gnome-classic, or older gnome does not
[15:24] <brokenbrainedphi> donavan01
[15:24] <dr_willis> tbrown:  or use a differnt desktop like xfce, or lxde
[15:24] <Tyrantelf> brokenbrainedphi: any other suggestions?
[15:25] <sacarlson> dr_willis: th3e you must be in a similar state as me, or as bad a typist
[15:25] <brokenbrainedphi> pm me Tyrantelf
[15:26] <lisaweinfurtner> can anybody give me a hand with the installation of my wlan-card?
[15:26] <jellyf1sh> don'tknow if its a ubuntu speficic problem - there is no preview of fonts at openfontlibrary or google open font website, not with firefox or seamonkey.. os is 11.04
[15:26] <tbrown> dr_willis: I used differnet linux destros with xfce and I like it but will there be a iso just for xfce for the new ubuntu  or just the regular one?
[15:26] <brokenbrainedphi> lisaweinfurtner, what model?
[15:27] <lisaweinfurtner> ehm don't know. i just installed ubuntu and it wont work. is there a shell command to recognize the model?
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> !wifi| lisaweinfurtner start here
[15:27] <jc_> dr_willis: Thanks I'll give that a try
[15:27] <tbrown> But I just want to learn all the command and stuff am just going to install a earler verison of ubuntu and get use to it and go from there does that hurt or will I get into trouple with my self from doing that
[15:28] <gunther> exit
[15:28] <gunther> How do i leave a room in irssi?
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> tbrown  then use 10.04 as it's an LT
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> gunther  /part
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> tbrown  then use 10.04 as it's an LTS
[15:29] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: I'm an expert in wlan but we need to know what you already tried.  like network-manager at the top of some screens gets us there
[15:29] <tbrown> MonkeyDust: Okay thank you can I use xfce in 10.04
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> tbrown  dont know but guess so
[15:30] <tbrown> MonkeyDust: One more Question have you ever played the game MoneyQuest
[15:30] <jellyf1sh> sorry for repeating the repeating but still don'tknow if its a ubuntu speficic problem - there is no preview of fonts at openfontlibrary or google open font website, not with firefox or seamonkey.. os is 11.04 ..
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> tbrown  i only play old skool DOOM in win xp (vbox) ;)
[15:31] <lisaweinfurtner> i didn't do nothingbasically. i have installed linux and tried to connect to the ethernet but either ethernet nor wlan are working.
[15:31] <jellyf1sh> oldschool? try demul 0.57
[15:31] <briney> when is the new lts due out?
[15:31] <van_> guys i use vino-server on my pc,and androidvnc on my android...but i can see only me desktop...and not opened apps...why?
[15:32] <tbrown> MonkeyDust: Lol you should start playing Diablo 2 it really fun or World of WarCraft if you use ubuntu and you probley know this already use a virtualmachine of windows xp and play windows games and I played Doom on DOSBOX it was really fun
[15:32] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: but both exist your pluged in cat5 cable and you location has wifi within reach?
[15:32] <jc_> trying to bring up the grub menu on 11.10 because I need to run a memory test, but if I hold down the shift key, it just freezes with a blinking cursor? what am I doing wrong?
[15:33] <lisaweinfurtner> yeah tried wlan at three different places where windows machines did work.
[15:33] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: cat5 ethernet cable should normaly plug and play, wifi might have some encryption keys to enter
[15:33] <tbrown> jc_: Am new to ubuntu what is a grub Menu
[15:33] <Dan39> :O
[15:33] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: and do you know if the wifi is encrypted?
[15:34] <lisaweinfurtner> yes it is.
[15:34] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: ok did you enter the keys in network-manager?
[15:35] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: do you even see the access points of your encrypted network?
[15:35] <Dan39> konqueror always use lot of cpu just sitting there doing nothing? its been sitting at exactly 10.0%...
[15:35] <Dan39> on an i5 cpu :\
[15:35] <tbrown> I was wondering with other people on ubuntu Commity I was trying to run my wifi card from ubuntu 10.04 on my computer and trying to load the drivers on it or was it a different distro I think it was it was not ubuntu sorry about that. But ya is there a easy way that I can go to a website that will show all the drivers for HP 2000-369WM Please Hook me up please:)
[15:35] <kamilnadeem> Have a problem with proprietary graphics card drivers
[15:36] <jc_> tbrown: its essentially the boot menu, if you have a dual boot it will list all your bootable drives and let you select one at startup
[15:36] <lisaweinfurtner> no i didn't. i have no oportunity to do so. the wlan menu link is deaktivated
[15:36] <kamilnadeem> on 12.04
[15:36] <bergelmir> i am trying to install ubuntu 11.10 from dvd but it hangs after detecting (?) my keyboard... black screen, white dmesg texts
[15:36] <kamilnadeem> Every time the system starts(with nvidia drivers) my refresh rate is set to 87Hz http://i.imgur.com/7cXod.png because of which my monitor's pixel start to overbear and I have to manually select 60Hz and apply it every time I start my pc.
[15:36] <bergelmir> no error message :( how to find the reason why it isn't booting
[15:36] <jc_> tbrown: te grub menu is normally hidden, but I should be able to get to it , just having trouble getting it so show up
[15:37] <tbrown> I was wondering with other people on ubuntu Commity I was trying to run my wifi card from ubuntu 10.04 on my computer and trying to load the drivers on it or was it a different distro I think it was it was not ubuntu sorry about that. But ya is there a easy way that I can go to a website that will show all the drivers for HP 2000-369WM Please Hook me up please:)
[15:37] <jellyf1sh> http://jelly.haifashion.eu - comic made with inkscape and clipart free/cc-license ..
[15:37] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: ok sounds like the wifi device if you have one has not been accepted,  maybe it's a broadcom that requires firmware or the divice is just not supported
[15:37] <tbrown> Thank us _JC
[15:37] <tbrown> Thank you _JC
[15:38] <lisaweinfurtner> what to do?
[15:39] <tbrown> lisaweinfurtner: I ask the same question? But am still in my room hatting my life lol JK! I need a Job:)
[15:39] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: to find out what device you have you can do a sudo apt-get install pastebinit ; sudo lshw | pasetbinit;  and provide us the link to see what you have
[15:40] <lisaweinfurtner> don't I need a working internet connection to installe apps?
[15:40] <tbrown> Will people of Ubuntu am glad to say that am going to click the download link for ubuntu 10.04 Type YAAA! If you agree with me Please I don't want to be alone lol:)
[15:41] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  running ubuntu 11.10 64 bit host... windows xp guest.  trying to get windows xp to use the socks proxy i have set up on port 1080 (on host machine).  i can access sites via the proxy fine on firefox on host but not guest... i've tried using localhost and <IP_ADDRESS> both... .. and ive already set vbox to use bridged networking
[15:41] <dr_willis1> tbrown:  12.04 is almost released :)
[15:41] <jc_> OK I got to the grub menu, it was a tying issues, I had to hold the shift key as soon as the loading OS messae popped up. I'm now able to get it and I am running the memory test
[15:42] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: I should have told you that to do that you will need to plug in with the cat5 ethernet cable before you can install anything
[15:42] <lolzer> hi all .. i cant see the language support option and my ubuntu12.04 has changed to chineeze language
[15:42] <tbrown> dr_willis1: Ya I know but it has that apps side of the bar I dont like that I want a clean. mabey I can send something to ubuntu if they can have a classic them like xfce or something with not looking like a tablet computer I dont like thouse distros do you know what I mean:)
[15:42] <vasili0s> lulz
[15:43] <sacarlson> lolzer: you might try #ubuntu+1
[15:43] <lisaweinfurtner> thought so. but as i said before. ethernet is not working, too. it is currently plugged in but cant connect
[15:43] <dr_willis1> tbrown:  the proper term is its using 'unity'
[15:43] <jc_> arooni-mobile: why not just use the NAT networking on the XP?
[15:43] <dr_willis1> tbrown:  if you want an old school type interface, theres the gnome classic option, or use xfce, or lubuntu.
[15:43] <Helo_> hello everyone
[15:44] <tbrown> Even with WIndows 8 Coming out it all looking like Tablet Notebooks and Desktop computer it going to be a said day
[15:44] <briney> how can i revert to open source video drivers at a recovery command line?
[15:44] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: oh that is not normal 98% of all wired nics are plug and play on linux/ubuntu
[15:44] <arooni-mobile> jc_, i was using nat networking before it didnt work; i tried bridgednetworking
[15:44] <dr_willis1> ive gotten used to unity. ;)
[15:44] <bergelmir> is it correct to add "BOOT_DEBUG=3" after "[...] quiet splash --" to get more information?
[15:44] <zykotick9> briney: nvidia or ati?
[15:44] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: what version of ubuntu do you run?
[15:44] <lisaweinfurtner> thats what i thought...
[15:44] <briney> nvidia
[15:44] <profxavier> what is the best client/server combo to remote into a server containing Ubuntu-desktop ?
[15:44] <profxavier> sorry, from a Mac
[15:44] <lisaweinfurtner> downloaded the newest yesterday. 11.10?!
[15:44] <Helo_> may I ask you a question? I have a ittle problem with the install of  ubuntu
[15:45] <jc_> arooni-mobile: OK, you might want to try host only, that might work better for you proxy
[15:45] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: might try the more stable 10.04
[15:45] <tbrown> dr_willis1: That would get a me a opition on the start lock screen I just want a clean install of ubuntu xfce or a classic gnome interface that what I mean sorry if am being difficult sorry:)
[15:45] <zykotick9> briney: to disable them just "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.disabled" then uninstall the driver and reboot
[15:46] <arooni-mobile> jc_, what do you mean host only
[15:46] <Helo_> I did a wubi install in windows 7 and now I cannot access windows I can only go to ubuntu at the startup
[15:47] <lisaweinfurtner> ok i give it a try. hope that will work
[15:47] <sacarlson> Helo_: I didn't know that was possible since ubuntu runs under windows
[15:48] <bergelmir> Helo_: i think you need to update your grub information but its years ago i did this last
[15:48] <sacarlson> lisaweinfurtner: ya me too
[15:48] <Helo_> Hey me too last time I did that on another computer it worked perfectly byt now...
[15:48] <zykotick9> sacarlson: just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should ;)  (re-wubi)
[15:48] <lisaweinfurtner> thanks anyway :)
[15:48] <oal> When I view 3d content moving fast, it's like a part of the screen moves, then the other part stays still, and then the other also moves. Is that related to vsync (or what it's called)? Nvidia gpu on Ubuntu 11.10.
 ok thanks
[15:48] <jc_> arooni-mobile: under network one of your options should be host only adaptor, that lest the guest network with the host only, if you are setting up a proxy then that should be all you need
[15:48] <terbocas> #hacker
[15:49] <zykotick9> oal: usually vsync (issue is typically called tearing)
[15:49] <bergelmir> Helo_: update-grub or update-grub2
[15:49] <oal> zykotick9: any settings I can change to prevent it from happening?
[15:49] <profxavier> what is the best Mac client/Ubuntu server combo to remote into a server containing Ubuntu-desktop ?
[15:49] <Helo_> i have to enter that in the terminal. I am a total newby in ubuntu
[15:49] <sacarlson> zykotick9: Helo_: I hate wubi and only think of it as a try if you like test mode. but never seen it damage anything before
[15:50] <zykotick9> oal: turn vsync on - typically there is both an nvidia setting and a compiz setting for it (or there used to be in compiz)
[15:50] <jc_> tbrown: if you want a clean xfc interface you could use xubuntu, the old gnome2 interface is gone, the closest thing I've seen to it is cinnamon
[15:50] <bergelmir> Helo_: do you know how to open a terminal?
[15:50] <oal> zykotick9: thanks
[15:50] <Helo_> yep
[15:50] <bergelmir> Helo_: okay, then you need to enter "sudo update-grub" or "sudo update-grub2"
[15:51] <bergelmir> Helo_: this should update your grub information and if all went fine, you should see windows on next boot
[15:51] <oal> zykotick9: is that "Sync to VBlank" in the nvidia driver settings? It's already enabled
[15:51] <sacarlson> bergelmir: you do know they said they used wibi, that's not a normal grub install
[15:51] <bouma> its a real shame imho that they removed the compact file view in nautilus
[15:51] <zykotick9> bergelmir: update-grub and update-grub2 are really the same - you only has to specify one ;)
[15:51] <bouma> it was superior for fitting stuff on screen
[15:52] <bouma> columns are not nearly as optimal
[15:52] <zykotick9> oal: ya - that's the nvidia setting
[15:52] <Helo_> bergelmir_: thanks it aks me my password generated several lines
[15:52] <Helo_> i try reboot my computer now
[15:52] <sacarlson> bouma: in the later version of ubuntu I note they removed many things from bugs like gpg decryption/encryption and many more
[15:53] <bergelmir> sacarlson: haven't used wubi yet but he said he cannot choose between ubuntu and windows and that sounds like grub
[15:53] <zykotick9> oal: did you say it tearing in 3d?  check the "OpenGL Settings" in nvidia-settings there a "Sync to VBlank" there as well.
[15:53] <bergelmir> Helo_: have you entered your correct password?
[15:53] <Helo_> yes
[15:53] <sacarlson> bergelmir: I could be mistaken so ask them
[15:53] <oal> zykotick9: Sync to Vblank is already checked. I googled tearing and found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/01/how-to-fix-video-tearing-in-videos-nvidia-ubuntu/ will try it now
[15:54] <Helo_> all the information I fund on the net seems topoint a grub problem
[15:54] <tbrown> I change my mind because I just want to learn the basic of ubuntu am just installing Ubuntu 9.10 is that still supported
[15:54] <zykotick9> oal: for videos, be use "X Server XVideo Settings" in nvida-setting already has "Sync to VBlank" then.
[15:54] <zykotick9> s/use/sure/
[15:54] <sacarlson> bergelmir: you could be right then maybe Helo_ upgraded to something other than wubi and didn't know it?
[15:55] <Helo_> doesn't work
[15:55] <Helo_> I used the wubi
[15:55] <sacarlson> Helo_: do you know the difference of wubi and grub?
[15:55] <ChrisWere> Hry guys. I've recently bought a X-Fi Xtreme Gamer sound card, and i've slotted it in and it all works, except for a hissing in the background. Any ideas on how I can eliminate that?
[15:55] <bergelmir> Helo_: is ubuntu installed as a program on your windows installation or is ubuntu installed next to your windows installation?
[15:55] <tbrown> is there a chat room for windows xp
[15:56] <Helo_> sacarlson i am a total newbi  spent less than 12 hours on ubuntu so far
[15:56] <zykotick9> oal: what video player are you using?  and what VO (Video Output) are you using with that video player?  XV vs GL vs VDPAU might give very different results.
[15:56] <oal> zykotick9: I meant 3d as in a 3d game. More specifically webgl
[15:56] <zykotick9> tbrown: ##windows
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Helo_  wubi is *inside* windows, a normal install is *alongside* and independant from windows
[15:56] <ChrisWere> this hissing is constant, even without any media players, how do I change from XV vs GL vs VDPAU?
[15:56] <Helo_> <bergelmir: ubuntu is  installed as a program on my  windows installation
[15:57] <zykotick9> oal: webgl, i see.  well, good luck man.
[15:57] <Helo_> i followed the tutorial on ubuntu website
[15:57] <oal> zykotick9: is it not related to vsync then?
[15:57] <zykotick9> oal: don't have the slightest idea sorry.  good luck.
[15:57] <Helo_> i did exactely the same thing on a nother computer and that works fine I can still boot on windows
[15:57] <sacarlson> Helo_: so you didn't have a problem and install grub did you?
[15:58] <oal> zykotick9: heh, ok, I hope I can find a solution, as it's quite annoying
[15:58] <Helo_> i just enterred the comand that was previusly given I didn't install anything else
[15:58] <Helo_> the command was for grub update
[15:59] <nischayn22> any existing solution for heating problems with Sony Vaio laptops?
[15:59] <sacarlson> Helo_: grub_update from a live cd?
[15:59] <Helo_> no
[15:59] <Helo_> from the terminal on the open session
[15:59] <AnthonyUK> i want to combine my router and homeserver into one device for energy efficiency, instead of serperate ubuntu server and linux router distro, does anyone know how safe this is? what i should be aware of security wise before i do it.
[15:59] <compdoc> nischayn22, I think 12.04 addresses some of it
[15:59] <sacarlson> Helo_: sounds like your still in wubi then
[15:59] <nischayn22> compdoc: I am using 12.04
[15:59] <zykotick9> sacarlson: FYI grub-update from livecd/usb would require chroot to work -- see !grub2 link for details.
[15:59] <Helo_> sacarlson ok
[15:59] <ChrisWere> this hissing is constant, even without any media players, how do I change from XV vs GL vs VDPAU?
[16:00] <compdoc> nischayn22, ooops
[16:00] <zykotick9> ChrisWere: XV/GL/VDPAU are video outputs... is the hissing audio?
[16:00] <oal> zykotick9: hmm, now I see the CompizConfig says refresh rate is 50 while my monitors are 60Hz. Does it make sense to also set compiz to 60?
[16:00] <bergelmir> wubi ~= live cd?
[16:00] <sacarlson> zykotick9: I told you I already hate wubi and you expect me to research it?  not going to happen
[16:00] <nischayn22> compdoc: I am afraid if something crashes using ubuntu the temperature is normally about 60
[16:00] <ChrisWere> yes the hissing is through the headphones, I've had a play around with the outputs, but it doesn't change anything.
[16:01] <compdoc> nischayn22, its a common problem, and you certainly dont want it to run hot
[16:01] <zykotick9> sacarlson: :) i was just trying to help.  I have Helo on /ignore so i'm not see there side...
[16:01] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: does it sound like sssssssssssssssssssss.   ya I hate that
[16:01] <nischayn22> compdoc: :( Have to keep switching back and forth with MS
[16:01] <aaas> anyone know of a blood pressure monitor or pulse monitor  that can interface with ubuntu
[16:01] <zykotick9> oal: i'm not sure man...
[16:02] <sacarlson> zykotick9: oh bummer I was hoping someone like yourself was going to find a solution
[16:02] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: yeah its a sssssssssssssssss, like it's a very cheap sound card. But I payed a fair bit for this.
[16:02] <zykotick9> sacarlson: wubi issue = add to ignore list ;)
[16:02] <Grock> What do I have to do to get ubuntu on my phone now?
[16:02] <Grock> Not the vnc, shite.  I want to dock to ubuntu.
[16:02] <Grock> so hard.
[16:03] <Grock> so very hard.
[16:03] <Grock> I got the epic 4g touch.  take all of my money!
[16:03] <OerHeks> Grock, all you need to do is wait.
[16:04] <Grock> OerHeks, I feel like I am gonna pop.  At least with Krampusnacht, there is a date.  :(
[16:04] <sacarlson> zykotick9: I should learn to do the same
[16:04] <Grock> I am willing to make my phone unuseable for any other thing.
[16:04] <sacarlson> Grock: on your phone? I use ssh
[16:05] <Grock> no...
[16:05]  * Grock sighs.
[16:05] <Grock> I can run the images, okay -- I want the ubuntu integration.
[16:05] <Grock> Very tight.
[16:05] <Grock> I like what I see.
[16:05] <ohptlabs> so ive been using transmission for the last few weeks and every few days files which were complete, it tells me a piece of them is corrupt anad to verify them, which i do but then sometimes a few days later the same thing happens again. now i was going to back up what i had downloaded, but part of me is woried about wasting media if pieces from these files just go corrupt.
[16:05] <Grock> Will tatoo logo on face.
[16:05] <bazhang> Grock, no need for the hyperbole
[16:06] <sacarlson> Grock:  maybe not an android phone?  it's already linux
[16:06] <ohptlabs> Grock,  i think you need an extra t for tattoo
[16:06] <Grock> Oh, thanks ohpt.
[16:06] <ChrisWere> Any ideas on how I could get rid of the hissing?
[16:06] <bazhang> Grock, check #ubuntu-phone
[16:06] <ohptlabs> Grock, , no problem , its what im here for
[16:06] <Grock> Grock not use hyperbole.  Grock smash. . .  oh, thanks bazhang.
[16:06] <silverbellgrl> hey
[16:06] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: there are some cool filters in ladspa but not sure that will do for you
[16:06] <BLZbubba> how do I disable udisks checking on my cdrom?
[16:07] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: is it worth a try?
[16:07] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: if your into sound you should play with ladspa and jackd
[16:07] <ohptlabs> now about the files having corrupt pieces after not being touched, could this somehow be because they are transfered to and from a terrabyte usb drive?
[16:08] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: I just wanted a decent one for my mic to work and nicer music.
[16:09] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: you might want to see what other people have said about your sound card chips,  sudo lshw ;  and google the sound chip in linux
[16:10] <Grock> bazhang, what a dead channel.  :/
[16:10] <zykotick9> ChrisWere: "lspci | grep -i audio" might show you sound card as well
[16:10] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: other posibility is your mixer settings are just open on mic even when you play music but not likely
[16:10] <ohptlabs> the other weird thing i noticed is after a few days of using transmission  and using its interface  to load video and music, my speakers start sounding blown out, but if i switch into other OSes they go back to normal, no clipping of the sound
[16:11] <Grock> bazhang, ubuntu phone is not the droid I seek.
[16:11] <bazhang> Grock, it does not exist yet
[16:11] <Grock> I've seen it demonstrated.
[16:12] <ohptlabs> grock, not to be a heathen but if ubuntu isn't it, why not try ubuntu's parent?
[16:12] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: downloaded mp3's will all have different sound levels so don't compare different mp3 on different os's
[16:12] <Grock> It can't be vapor.
[16:12] <bazhang> Grock, thats far outside this channels scope; for unreleased products
[16:12] <Grock> Meh, to wait stoicly.
[16:13] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, i meantioned the other oses just because i have to reset to get the clipping to stop, and it hasn't really been mp3s, mainly mkv, avi's and mp4
[16:13] <bazhang> Grock, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[16:13] <sacarlson> Grock: what phone did you hope to install ubuntu on?
[16:13] <profxavier> guys, how can I confirm that my remote server has an ubuntu-desktop running ?
[16:13] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: it says to update drivers, but I already have the most up-to-date ones
[16:14] <Grock> sacarlson, I can install ubuntu just fine on an epic 4g touch.  My disinclination to call the job there falls within the scope of this channel.
[16:14] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: do you think it might be broken, it is a refurbished model.
[16:14] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: no mater what format they are from nonprofesional sources and you should expect not have the same sound levels
[16:14] <zykotick9> profxavier: what do you mean?
[16:14] <brokenbrainedphi> WHAT?
[16:14] <Grock> Thing is, though -- you have to run vnc to connect to it.
[16:14] <Grock> clunky.
[16:15] <profxavier> zyki have a remote server which I just have shell access to
[16:15] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: uptodate does not mean it works,  in linux new does not mean better
[16:15] <Grock> Still -- nice to be able to pentest on the go.
[16:15] <profxavier> zykotick9, sorry, that post was for you ^^
[16:15] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, what i mean then is the same sound or video, after being used to played will start sounding different
[16:15] <ajaya> after putting username and password in apt.conf why do i get the error 407 authentication required in terminal
[16:15] <zykotick9> profxavier: "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop" to confirm the package is installed.  then perhaps, "ps aux | grep X" to confirm Xorg is running?
[16:15] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: not sure what could be changing then?
[16:16] <ajaya> anybody please?
[16:16] <profxavier> zykotick9, I see nothing from grep
[16:16] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, for instance last night i queued up in the nursery's a page of madness while i slept nd when i woke up six hours later all the bass parts now were distorted and clipping which they werent when i went to sleep
[16:16] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: after updating linux software?
[16:16] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: to be honest there's not much in good on it that I can find. I think I might return it.
[16:17] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, no i dont think linuxhas been updated ina few weeks
[16:17] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: no linux updates every hour not every week
[16:17] <zykotick9> profxavier: maybe "sudo service lightdm status"?
[16:17] <ohptlabs> it reminds of old linux sound driver problems i had in 1998, but its been too long for me to remember an easy solution
[16:18] <profxavier> lightdm is not recognized
[16:18] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, i know, i just don't update that regularly on the my family's home computer, my 7 year old uses it too often for it to be down for any reason
[16:18] <zykotick9> profxavier: did you install ubuntu-desktop?  is this 11.10?
[16:18] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: this is open source so everyone works 24/7
[16:19] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, i know :) how im using the LTS release for this box.
[16:19] <Miadon> argh!!!
[16:19] <sacarlson> ohptlabs: and I know you don't set the auto update?  I'm sure no one ever does that do they?
[16:20] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: is there anything else you can suggest?
[16:20] <profxavier> zykotick9, the OS was installed by someone else, remotely
[16:20] <profxavier> zykotick9, i guess i need to understand how to start X ?
[16:20] <zykotick9> profxavier: "lsb_release -sc"
[16:20] <ohptlabs> sacarlson, gold star of psychicness. no, space is kind of tight so when i do update i have to useramdrives for the extra space until updates are done.
[16:20] <profxavier> lucid
[16:21] <zykotick9> profxavier: "sudo service gdm status"
[16:21] <profxavier> not recognized
[16:21] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: no I'm out of idea'a
[16:21] <profxavier> gdm: unrecognized service
[16:22] <zykotick9> profxavier: is a desktop installed here?  "apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop" is it installed?
[16:22] <DelphiWorld> hey folks
[16:23] <sacarlson> and in my present state I'm more trouble then help ( I had a few beers)
[16:23] <DelphiWorld> sory for this dummit question. but how do i know my actual release ?
[16:23] <profxavier> zykotick9, what am I looking for in the output ?
[16:23] <bazhang> !version | DelphiWorld
[16:23] <sacarlson> DelphiWorld: uname -a will provide your linux version
[16:23] <xcv_> hello, can anybody help me with a partition problem?
[16:23] <DelphiWorld> bazhang: THXXXXXXXXXx
[16:24] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: ahhh fixed it
[16:24] <ohptlabs> xcv_, what kind of problem?
[16:24] <ChrisWere> sacarlson: Just tried messing arround in alsamixer
[16:24] <Gunz4MiPPle> no more Maverick support?
[16:24] <DelphiWorld> 11.10
[16:24] <sacarlson> ChrisWere: wow without my help, you might of figured it out sooner
[16:24] <Gunz4MiPPle> wth?
[16:24] <zykotick9> profxavier: "Installed: VERSIONINFO" or "Installed: (none)"
[16:25] <k-rAd-> how do i convert m4b or audiobooks to mp3 ?
[16:25] <profxavier> ah, sorry, (none)
[16:25] <wylde> !maverick | Gunz4MiPPle
[16:25] <k-rAd-> rename to mp3 and use soundconverter ?
[16:25] <profxavier> ok, so its an Ubuntu-Deskop install, but without the Desktop
[16:25] <profxavier> I see
[16:25] <bazhang> k-rAd-, you mean m4v?
[16:25] <k-rAd-> nope itunes audiobooks
[16:25] <irenicus09> hi anyone knows how I can change background @gnome3 login screen?
[16:25] <k-rAd-> .m4b
[16:26] <ohptlabs> k-rAd-, i'd burn them to disc first and just rip the disc
[16:26] <k-rAd-> awesome
[16:26] <k-rAd-> thank you
[16:26] <xcv_> ohptlabs: last year I bought a laptop with windows 7 and I installed ubuntu on my last primary partition (of course, I regret). Now, I got in love with arch linux, but I would like to keep my highly customized ubuntu and my first original windows. What could I do?
[16:26] <ohptlabs> xcv_,  resize the partions using gparted
[16:26] <Dr_willis> irenicus09,  depends on what login manager its using. In 12.04 i belive it now changes to whatever one the user has selected.. neat trick.
[16:26] <Dr_willis> irenicus09,  or find the file its using and just edit it.
[16:26] <irenicus09> Dr_willis: gdm
[16:27] <xcv_> ohptlabs: but I have no space for more primary partitions, that implies that i can't even create an extended one
[16:27] <sacarlson> xcv_: maybe on your next install you will use lvm partitions that can easily be changed in size
[16:27] <ohptlabs> xcv_, how much free space is on bother partitions?
[16:27] <Dr_willis> irenicus09,  most likely theres a guide on it at the askubuntu.com site
[16:27] <ohptlabs> s/bother/both
[16:28] <zykotick9> xcv_: you can only have 4 primary partitions, or 3 primary and one extended - if you currently have 4 primary, one needs to be deleted
[16:29] <xcv_> ohptlabs: that's the problem. In kde kde partition manager (i have many desktops installed) I found a partition backup partition, but I don't know if the restore would work to make my windows recovery work in case of need.
[16:30] <xcv_> backup option*
[16:30] <BlueClaw> I just installed 12.04. I have three monitors; how do I get them to stop mirroring  and display separate?
[16:30] <zykotick9> BlueClaw: reask in #ubuntu+1
[16:30] <wylde> xcv_: do you want to still have all the filesystems available? Or to keep an archive of them?
[16:30] <ohptlabs> xcv_, well you don't really to touch that partition. how much total space do you have and how is it divided? how much free space if any is on each partition?
[16:31] <profxavier> zykotick9, would that simply be a package installation, to get my "desktop" on Ubuntu-Desktop ?
[16:31] <zykotick9> profxavier: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[16:31] <wylde> xcv_: just wondering if squashfs-tools may be of interest to you.
[16:31] <zykotick9> profxavier: GUIs on servers make no sense to me, so best of luck.
[16:31] <wylde> !info squashfs-tools
[16:32] <profxavier> zykotick9, haha
[16:32] <xcv_> wylde, ohptlabs: well, nowadays I don't really need the recovery partition (only 100MB), but I would like to be able to restore it some day. Is that easy?
[16:32] <profxavier> zykotick9, its just an experiment
[16:32] <profxavier> zykotick9, also, i could setup a VM on the remote server
[16:32] <wylde> xcv_: I honestly don't know. I 've never had to do that.
[16:33] <ohptlabs> if its only a 100mb i wouldn't bother touching it, how much total space is your harddrive?
[16:33] <Dr_willis> a 100mb recovery pariton seems.. tiny.
[16:33] <xcv_> ohptlabs: I have space, but I need to make another primary(extended) partition, the problem is that I already have 4
[16:34] <Dr_willis> windows 7 uses a little boot type partion, and normally the pc makers put on a recovery partion of a few gb from what ive seen.
[16:34] <xcv_> please wait, I will provide a fdisk print
[16:34] <wylde> xcv_: I'm suggesting squashfs-tools because you can use it to make a highly compressed copy of a complete filesystem. It can also be mounted and even exported over the network.
[16:34] <ohptlabs> xcv_, then yes the person earlier was correct, if you have four primaries you'll need to delete one to make n extended partition
[16:35] <xcv_> ohptlabs: yes, and my doubt is if windows would have any problem with the backup-delete-restore process
[16:35] <ohptlabs> xcv_, easiest way with out doing anything would be to just dd the partion to a file.
[16:35] <profxavier> zykotick9, thats for your time/patience
[16:35] <profxavier> zykotick9, thanks*
[16:35] <zykotick9> profxavier: good luck!  glad to help.
[16:35] <Galaxor> How do I read out my stored wifi keys?  I thought it used to be using the "seahorse" program, but I just ran seahorse and it only talks about my ssh keys, not my wifi keys.
[16:36] <xcv_> ohptlabs: I have already backed it up, but I have never restored a partition from a file...
[16:36] <m1chael> im trying to ressurect an older computer. i have the pc plugged directly in to my router. the corresponding router indicator light is orange/amber color and not green. i have booted up with ubuntu live cd, and i cannot get a wired internet connection to work. i have disabled/ignored ipv6 in network connection settings, but its still not working. any suggestions?
[16:36] <Dr_willis> Galaxor,  'read out' ? you mean see what they were?
[16:36] <ohptlabs> xcv_, so you've go a backup partition for winddows, windows 7 partition, a linux partition and what else?
[16:36] <Galaxor> Dr_willis: Yeah.  I want to tell my friend the wifi password, but I forgot it.
[16:36] <xcv_> ohptlabs: I backed up an image of the 100MB recovery partition
[16:36] <zykotick9> m1chael: are you using a Lucid 10.04 CD by chance?
[16:36] <Dr_willis> m1chael,  set a static ip. see if it can ping the router. check dmesg output. try differnt cable also.
[16:37] <Galaxor> Dr_willis: (I'm in ubuntu 11.10)
[16:37] <Dr_willis> Galaxor,  i dont think thats doable via seahorse - the wifi config tools i thought had a 'show password' check box.
[16:37] <m1chael> actually its xubuntu latest version
[16:38] <Galaxor> Dr_willis: Which wifi config tools?
[16:38] <xcv_> ohptlabs: here you have my partition table: http://pastebin.com/pBhz5rEG
[16:38] <zykotick9> m1chael: from terminal "lspci | grep -i ethernet" what model of ethernet is it?
[16:38] <Dr_willis> Galaxor,  the one at the top right of ubuntu panel, network managers interface i belive. I rarely use wireless  - just too much hassle.
[16:38] <Galaxor> Dr_willis: Oh, in system settings > Networ.  Got it.  Thanks!
[16:39] <m1chael> intel pro/100 ve network connection
[16:39] <ohptlabs> xcv_, what type if the first partition, i dont recall what id 27's type is.
[16:39] <Dr_willis> tried 2 differnt wifi thangs in this pc. keep having connection issues.. got one of those pc -> ethernet->wireless 'connect your xbox to the wlan' thangs. and wireless is finally working decently for me with this pc.
[16:40] <Dr_willis> pc just thinks its wired. ;)
[16:40] <op1um56> Hello
[16:41] <Dr_willis> Jello
[16:41] <xcv_> ohptlabs: the partition manager says it is ntfs and the parititon tags are, in order: PQSERVICE, SYSTEM RESCUE, Acer, ubuntu-root
[16:41] <ohptlabs> xcv_, desconocido?
[16:41] <xcv_> ohptlabs: unknown in english
[16:42] <zykotick9> m1chael: are you sure that isn't your wireless card?
[16:42] <ohptlabs> xcv_, hmmm... unknown? any information there?
[16:42] <op1um56> Im trying to create  a gtk3 theme for my ubuntu gnome desktop, is there guidelines to creating one or how would i begin to doing one myself?
[16:42] <zykotick9> m1chael: sorry, ya that looks like the ethernet
[16:43] <xcv_> ohptlabs: if I am not wrong, I think it's de windows boot partition
[16:43] <xcv_> ohptlabs: the*
[16:44] <xcv_> ohptlabs: sorry, the recovery is the first one, boot is the second
[16:44] <ohptlabs> xcv_, on your pastebin it looks like /dev/sda2 is whats booting, the 100MB partition
[16:44] <zykotick9> m1chael: could you run "lspci -vnvn | grep -i ethernet" and give me the XXXX:XXXX number/letter beside teh Intel 100 ve
[16:45] <xcv_> ohptlabs: yes, yes, it was my fault
[16:45] <ohptlabs> xcv_, and your whole drive is used? or just 25g of it?
[16:46] <xcv_> ohptlabs: I resized the partitions a few months ago to leave space
[16:46] <m1chael> zykotick9: 8086:1094
[16:46] <lauratika> how can i restart ubuntu one... the share option on folders is grayout on ubuntu rigth click menu.
[16:46] <dictodude> hey
[16:47] <dictodude> sup
[16:47] <xcv_> ohptlabs: excuse me for my english, I was saving up space because I imagined that some day I would like to install another distro
[16:47] <aaas> a subjective question: how difficult would it be to take a simple usb device (such as a glucose monitor, heart rate monitor, etc) and use a usb analyzer to try to code a way to get info off the device?
[16:47] <riop> if I can boot to an install cd but I can't install from that medium because of errors.  can I download the iso, mount it, and install like that?
[16:47] <gabx666> Hello everyone. I am running XFCE with Ubuntu 11.10. Since a while, I can't start synaptic, package manager from menu. The only was is to use console mode and then type sudo synaptic. I guess there is something wrong with gksduo
[16:47] <zykotick9> m1chael: "lsmod | grep e100" do you get output?
[16:48] <Dr_willis> gabx666,  try gksudo synaptic from a terminal and look for errors.
[16:48] <zykotick9> !gksu | gabx666
[16:48] <m1chael> my output is: e100    36289   0
[16:48] <Helo_> sacarlson: bergelmir: i found thesolution
[16:48] <zykotick9> m1chael: that appears to be the required driver for your card, and that says that it's loaded.  Sorry - i'm out of ideas.  Good luck.
[16:48] <Helo_> the sudo update-grub command was saying that it was  skipping windows 7 loader on wubi system
[16:49] <ohptlabs> xcv_, your english seems better than mine most of the time.  so what your saying is at the end of the linux partition there is more space that you can't partition because you already have four partition that are primary?
[16:49] <Helo_> sacarlson: bergelmir: the sudo update-grub command was saying that it was  skipping windows 7 loader on wubi system
[16:49] <dictodude> im trying to install ubuntu off xp so im tryinng a demo first. i left the cd in pc on boot and it still boots to xp...  wat shal i do??  ive tryed the help option on the cd.... dont work :(
[16:50] <xcv_> ohptlabs: exactly, I was wishing to install arch in that space, I like having the lastest software, but I am a bit afraid about stability yet
[16:50] <gabx666> Dr_willis gksudo from console open the gksudo window where I can type my passowrd, then synaptic starts. No error meaasge
[16:50] <xangua> dictodude: did you set your bios to boot from cd¿
[16:50] <m1chael> zykotick9: thanks for your help!
[16:50] <zykotick9> m1chael: sorry i failed, good luck man.
[16:50] <dictodude> xangua ---------- i cant cos my pc has a bios password that i dont know
[16:50] <xangua> ...
[16:51] <dictodude> wat shall i do xangua
[16:51] <Helo_> sacarlson: bergelmir: i had to fix  the Master Boot Record with those command from the command menu after booting on windows 7 dvd
[16:51] <ohptlabs> xcv_, well whomever said earlier that you you'd need to delete a primary partition to make an extended partition was correct, pretty much, your only other option would be to make the one partition take up the rest of your disk, make a file that would be the size of the new distribution, make that file a filesystem and then have that file mounted as a loop back file system.
[16:52] <zykotick9> ohptlabs: ;)
[16:52] <Helo_> sacarlson: bergelmir: I used those commands in this order:  bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup         c:         cd boot         attrib bcd -s -h -r         ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old          bootrec /RebuildBcd
[16:52] <ohptlabs> zykotick9, ^_^
[16:52] <Helo_> bergelmir: the link with the informations http://www.tomshardware.com/news/win7-windows-7-mbr,10036.html
[16:53] <dictodude> im trying to install ubuntu off xp so im tryinng a demo first. i left the cd in pc on boot and it still boots to xp...  wat shal i do??  ive tryed the help option on the cd.... dont work :(
[16:53] <Helo_> sacarlson: bergelmir: thank very much you for your help guys
[16:53] <xcv_> ohptlabs: how do I boot a file? o_O... Or did I understand wrongly?
[16:53] <dictodude> im trying to install ubuntu off xp so im tryinng a demo first. i left the cd in pc on boot and it still boots to xp...  wat shal i do??  ive tryed the help option on the cd.... dont work :(
[16:53] <ohptlabs> xcv_,  its alot easier than it sounds.
[16:54] <gvo> dictodude recent computers let you select boot devices by pressing f12 at boot time.
[16:54] <bazhang> dictodude, change in bios to boot from cd first
[16:54] <ohptlabs> xcv_, youll need to make a file first, so "touch name_of_the_file" in whatever directory. then you'll need to file up the file
[16:54] <xcv_> ohptlabs: really? and during the installation... how do I select the partition/file where to install it?
[16:55] <dictodude> gvo           bazhang      ---------------    i tryed going into bios but there was password request that i dont know
[16:55] <Thunder7102> why is sudo apt-get -f install  not installing dependencies? Each thing I try to install has the dependency of the other and will not install unless the other is previously on the machine
[16:55] <Joestar79> hi all
[16:55] <Joestar79>  can anyone please translate "setfacl -Rm u:www-data:rwx logs" and "setfacl -Rm u:www-data:rx pydocs" with the equivalent chmod commands?
[16:55] <xcv_> ohptlabs: I think I did something similar with a swap file, but I still can't imagine how to install an OS there...
[16:55] <magicJ> I have a computer that is wired connection to my router.  When / if the router is re-booted it of course looses connection.  The question is why does it not re-connect.  Ig I re-boot the computer it re-connects automatically - I do have auto-connect on
[16:55] <gvo> dictodude you can try the f12 but you really need to find out what the password is.
[16:56] <ohptlabs> xcv_, so "dd if=/dev/zero of=name_of_the_file bs=1024 count=size_of_the_file_you_want"
[16:56] <GirlyGirl> Thunder7102: That is supposed to try to fix broken packages and dependencies ... not "install dependencies"
[16:56] <Thunder7102> Girlygirl, is there an option to intall dependencies that are also in that repository?
[16:56] <zykotick9> GirlyGirl: actually "apt-get -f install" can be used to install dependencies
[16:57] <xcv_> ohptlabs: size in KiB or MiB?
[16:57] <dictodude> gvo    >   is there a way to reset the pass without taking out the bios battery??
[16:57] <Thunder7102> I continue to get errors and i need to create a wireless to wired bridge network. :/
[16:57] <gvo> dictodude I don't know.
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> zykotick9: It corrects dependencies in case the current state is broke
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> n
[16:57] <ohptlabs> xcv_, the bs=1024 means that each count is one kb
[16:57] <gvo> dictodude: but that doesn't mean there isn't a way.
[16:57] <GirlyGirl> Thunder7102: Do you have any ppa's and have you done "apt-get update"
[16:58] <dictodude> gvo        i tryed the reset passes but they dont wor
[16:58] <zykotick9> GirlyGirl: correct - so assuming you use dpkg to install something, dependencies aren't installed - so using "apt-get -f install" after, 'should' install the required dependencies (cause it's currently in a broken state)
[16:58] <gvo> dictodude here's a discussion http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm
[16:58] <dictodude> gvo            shall i risk the software that craks bios
[16:58] <dictodude> gvo        ok thnx
[16:59] <xcv_> ohptlabs: working, I think I will try with a 10GB file first
[16:59] <gvo> dictodude: No opinon on that.
[17:00] <Thunder7102> I think the problem was that i did not know that you were supposed to run apt-get -f install without specifying the package
[17:00] <ohptlabs> xcv_, after its doneyou'd mkfs on it, something like "mkfs.ext2 -vv name_of_the_file" you could add other options ( -L for a label) things like that. it'll say its not a special block device but tell it to proceed anyways
[17:01] <ohptlabs> xcv_,  then after you have your file that is a block device you'll need to mount it with "mount -o loop name_of_file destination_mount_point"
[17:02] <ohptlabs> xcv_, thats the easiest way i can come up with with out deleting a primary partition to make extended partitions.
[17:02] <DexterF> hi
[17:02] <xcv_> ohptlabs: but... how do I install arch on it now?
[17:03] <DexterF> sshfs won't work anymore. I can ssh into the machine normally, but when I try to mount sshfs I get "connection reset by peer".
[17:03] <DexterF> no clue were to investigate
[17:03] <gvo> xcv_ try a arch channel.
[17:03] <DexterF> *where
[17:03] <gvo> xcv_ this is ubuntu.
[17:04] <xcv_> gvo: I mean, not only arch, it's any distribution, I can't imagine how to install it in a file, when it asks, it asks for a partition
[17:04] <ohptlabs> xcv_, when you are installing what every dist, when it gets to the part about what partition to use bring up a console and mount the file
[17:04] <ohptlabs> xcv_, the partitions are essenntially large files, like a three ring binder
[17:05] <newb> schroot copy /etc/passwd and /etc/group when I enter at chroot system?
[17:05] <xcv_> ohptlabs: so, I mount the ubuntu filesystem, then I mount the image and it will appear in the installation assistant? o_O
[17:06] <ohptlabs> xcv_, if thats all too hairy you could also "dd if=/dev/sda1 of=backup" which willl make a file called backup that is an exact copy of the whole first partiton, you could then delete that partition, resize the others until you have enough space to make a extended partition
[17:06] <alexseif> Hello
[17:06] <alexseif> I'm trying to upgrade mysql 5.1 to 5.2 or 5.5 but I can't manage that
[17:06] <ohptlabs> xcv_, essentially yes.
[17:06] <alexseif> as you can tell I'm a rookie on linux
[17:07] <alexseif> I can't seem to get it done from the package manager or terminal apt-get upgrade
[17:07] <xcv_> ohptlabs: okay, thank you, I will try that. In the case I wasn't able to make it work and I decide to use the "easy" method, If I want to restore, I make an identical partition with fdisk and I dd the backup on it, right?
[17:08] <me-1> when ubuntu 12.04 comes out..?
[17:09] <ohptlabs> xcv_, you dont even need to make an identical partition for the backup, just dd the device to a file that could be anywhere, that file can also be mounted with the mount -o loop command
[17:09] <xangua> me-1: /join #ubuntu+1 for pangolin
[17:09] <xcv_> ohptlabs: in the windows recovery environment?
[17:09] <zykotick9> me-1: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule
[17:10] <citra1> hi i need help
[17:10] <ohptlabs> xcv_, don't know, not sure about how windows handles things, last windows i used was 2k
[17:10] <xcv_> ohptlabs: lol, well thank you a lot anyways :)
[17:10] <asdfasdf> how can i reinstall ubuntu live on a usb stick without killing persistant-changes file?
[17:11] <asdfasdf> what tool do i use for doing this from windows?
[17:12] <ohptlabs> xcv_,  no problem, if it helps try just makinfg a very small loop back partition to see how itt works or even the dd if that 100mb partition and mount it in linux to see if there is any difference in the data
[17:12] <asdfasdf> how fix can pls?
[17:12] <ivan__> hi
[17:12] <ivan__> i have a question about subversion on Ubuntu
[17:13] <ivan__> can i ask here?
[17:14] <gvo> ivan__: Just ask.
[17:14] <citra1> can anyone help me out
[17:14] <bazhang> citra1, ask a question first
[17:15] <ivan__> I have a svn server on my computer, and i would like to know if exist any program for Ubuntu to manage it with a visual interface
[17:15] <asdfasdf> anyone knows?
[17:15] <citra1> ok
[17:15] <citra1> so i am following this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=10538&iTestingId=26638&bShowAll=true and it has worked but
[17:15] <citra1> when i try to open the program
[17:16] <citra1> it just does not open
[17:16] <citra1> even though it appears to have been installed..
[17:16] <zykotick9> !enter | citra1
[17:16] <Myrmidan> hellO
[17:16] <citra1> sorry
[17:16] <bazhang> citra1, #winehq for particular apps
[17:16] <citra1> ok
[17:17] <dougl> lightdm is default for ubuntu 11.10?
[17:17] <gvo> ivan__: I've used rapidsvn on Ubuntu but it's not in the repositories.
[17:17] <profxavier> can someone supply a tutorial for configuring an http proxy on an ubuntu server please ?
[17:18] <brokencodes> profxavier, sudo apt-get install squid3
[17:18] <bazhang> dougl, yep
[17:19] <brokencodes> profxavier add localhost as acceptible address, then you're golden
[17:19] <dougl> bazhang, thanks.
[17:20] <silverbellgrl> whats the best irc program to use for ubuntu?
[17:20] <ivan__> gvo i have searched it and its on the repository!!
[17:20] <zykotick9> !best | silverbellgrl
[17:20] <ivan__> the rapidsvn
[17:20] <jackie0> I'm trying to dualboot win7/ubuntu12.04 on a raid 0. Win7 is installed, I installed ubuntu, grub shows up on boot and loads win7 successfully. But I can't boot ubuntu because it doesn't find the root partition and drops into BusyBox. Fixes?
[17:20] <gvo> ivan__: OK
[17:21] <ivan__> thank you gvo
[17:21] <gvo> ivan__: np  It's not the fanciest gui but it does the job.
[17:21] <xangua> jackie0: /join #ubuntu+1 for pangolin issues
[17:22] <profxavier> brokencodes, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Intrepid#Web_content_filtering
[17:22] <Gunz4MiPPle> im getting an error starting update manager, it says something about a module named 'progress text'
[17:23] <profxavier> brokencodes, can I proxy my device traffic, with an http proxy, like my iphone/ipad ?
[17:23] <profxavier> brokencodes, or would I use a SOCKS5 proxy ?
[17:23] <brokencodes> you have to use a non standard port, and allow all ip's
[17:24] <profxavier> ah, true
[17:24] <profxavier> i can make 192.168.*.* though, right ?
[17:24] <profxavier> as our area carries consistent A.B.C.D range of IPs
[17:25] <profxavier> A.B.*.*,, i meant
[17:26] <Lapin_rouge> je  suis un lapin :)
[17:26] <Lapin_rouge> un lapin rougé !
[17:28] <txdv> I remember when using ubuntu that there was some app integrated in the gnome bar for twittering
[17:28] <txdv> what was its name
[17:29] <jpds> txdv: gwibber.
[17:29] <txdv> thanks
[17:29] <brokencodes> yes, profxavier
[17:29] <az3r>  يا شباب
[17:29] <az3r>  في حد عربي هون
[17:29] <az3r>  الووووووووو
[17:30] <FloodBot1> az3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:30] <az3r> :(  كلو اجانب الا انا عري
[17:30] <az3r> عربي
[17:30] <jpds> !ar | az3r
[17:30] <scott_z> i am going to install the 64bit version. will i be able to just upgrade to ver 12 later this month or will it have to be a complete new install? I guess the question is should I wait or not?
[17:30] <lisaweinfurtner> hi guys i have just installed ubuntu 10.4 and my ethernet won't work. can anybody help me?
[17:31] <az3r>    exciozme am dont speik englis
[17:31] <trism> scott_z: yes normal updates will take to to the final 12.04 release, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 questions
[17:31] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner, what is the problem?
[17:31] <vio12> ana arabi
[17:32] <scott_z> trism: thanks and sorry for the wrong channel. Still a newbie. :)
[17:32] <lisaweinfurtner> dont know. installed ubuntu plugged the ethernet wire in and got no connection. its working on my mac. wireless is not working as well...
[17:32] <trism> scott_z: no problem
[17:32] <az3r>    يا  عرب
[17:32] <az3r>  الوووووووووووووووووووووووووووووووووووووووو
[17:32] <FloodBot1> az3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <vio12> العرب موجودين
[17:32] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner, is your ethernet card listen in the lspci list?
[17:33] <lisaweinfurtner> yes it is.
[17:34] <lisaweinfurtner> marvell technology grou ltd. device 4357 (rev 10)
[17:34] <vio12> العرب الو نحن معك
[17:34] <TeniaS> hola
[17:34] <Myrtti> !arabic | az3r, vio12
[17:34] <chillpill_>  Translation (ar|en): | Az3r, vio12
[17:34] <bazhang> chillpill_, ?
[17:34] <Sibo> In your interfaces configfile, is there a row ¨iface eth0 init ***¨?
[17:34] <lisaweinfurtner> how can i access this file?
[17:34] <Sibo> Because you have to set the interface for networkmaneger
[17:35] <Sibo> cli
[17:35] <Sibo> Commandline interface
[17:35] <chillpill_> ok
[17:35] <chillpill_> hi
[17:35] <Sibo> $vim /etc/network/interfaces
[17:36] <Myrtti> chillpill_: if that is a script, please disable it
[17:36] <chillpill_> i dont think it is
[17:36] <zykotick9> lisaweinfurtner: don't use vim (unless you know it)!  "cat /etc/network/interfaces" will show you the file.
[17:36] <chillpill_> I will have to check
[17:36] <chillpill_> sorry
[17:36] <Myrtti> !arabic please disable the script
[17:36] <chillpill_>  Translation (ar|en): please disable the script
[17:36] <Sibo> or less xD
[17:37] <lisaweinfurtner> ok got this: auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[17:37] <chillpill_> I did not know I had it
[17:37] <Sibo> Not a eth0?
[17:37] <chillpill_> what could it be?
[17:37] <lisaweinfurtner> nope
[17:37] <zykotick9> lisaweinfurtner: you should see eth0 in that file, if you use Network-Manager!
[17:37] <Sibo> There is no
[17:37] <zykotick9> s/should/shouldn't/
[17:38] <scott_z> whenever i start a program from the terminal window I get the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/929847/ The program seems to run fine but when I close the program it seems I loose the top bar around all my windows and then have no way to move, minimize, expand or close the window. Any Ideas?
[17:38] <Sibo> Ok lisaweinfurtner
[17:38] <lisaweinfurtner> i can open system->preferences->network connections there is a eth0 listed
[17:38] <zykotick9> !gksu | scott_z
[17:38] <Sibo> we need to put a new row in the config file
[17:39] <Code_Factory> hi guys, I'm trying to upgrade mysql from 5.1.61 to 5.2 or 5.5 I can't really seem to get through the package manager or the terminal.. any ideas?
[17:39] <lisaweinfurtner> aright
[17:39] <zykotick9> Sibo: if you add something to interfaces, it will disable Network Manager.  Is that what lisaweinfurtner wants?
[17:39] <Dr_willis> Code_Factory,  whats the latest version in the repos?
[17:39] <Sibo> If you set eth0 manualy
[17:39] <Dr_willis> !info mysql
[17:39] <Sibo> So networkmanger can see the interface
[17:39] <zykotick9> lisaweinfurtner: you need to be careful following Sibo's suggestions!
[17:40] <Code_Factory> Dr_willis I dunno I think thats it 5.1.61
[17:40] <Code_Factory> Dr_willis how do I find out?
[17:40] <scott_z> thanks
[17:40] <zykotick9> !info mysql-server
[17:40] <bekks> Code_Factory: packages.ubuntu.com
[17:40] <lisaweinfurtner> oh man ubuntu is complicated :)
[17:40] <Sibo> It is not xD
[17:41] <Dr_willis> Code_Factory,  if the latest version in the repos is 5.1 then thats what you get. Unless you use ppa's or other unofficial sources
[17:41] <lisaweinfurtner> so what shall i do?
[17:41] <Sibo> zykotick9, if he input a new row auto eth0, iface eth0 init dhcp
[17:42] <Sibo> I dont want that the network manager is broken
[17:42] <zykotick9> Sibo: that might work - BUT it's gonna disable N-M.
[17:42] <gvo> Any idea where I'd put a .war file on Ubuntu's version of tomcat?  The webapps directory didn't work.
[17:42] <Code_Factory> The problem here is that the workbench keeps crashing
[17:42] <Sibo> zykotick9: Hmm...
[17:42] <Code_Factory> in the bug discussion they advised me to upgrade my mysql
[17:43] <Dr_willis> !ppa | Code_Factory
[17:43] <Code_Factory> Thanx guys I'll search that link
[17:43] <lisaweinfurtner> dont get thr problem at all. why is my ehternet not working in ubuntu but in macOs and windows?
[17:44] <Code_Factory> I don't like to hassle people with questions till I can't find the answer mysql
[17:44] <Code_Factory> I don't like to hassle people with questions till I can't find the answer myself
[17:44] <scott_z> ran in gksudo but still getting the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/929847/ Could there be something that I need to install? some theme or something?
[17:44] <Dr_willis> Code_Factory,  id set up a test install in vbox, or on flash (perhaps try 12.04 which may have a newer version) to see if the issue goes away with a newer version
[17:45] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: Ok we will not edit configfiles
[17:45] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Using DHCP?
[17:45] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, can you pstebin your lspci?
[17:45] <unkrr> can anyone tell me where can i upload a picture of my error ?? to show to you guys ?
[17:45] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: try to anable eth0 ¨sudo ifup eth0¨
[17:45] <rainbowwarrior2> hi, can someone please tell me how i can get my compaq cq60 laptop running Ubuntu 12.04 wireless to stay connected please, as it keeps disconnecting every 2 seconds ?
[17:45] <Code_Factory> Dr_willis thanx for the advise, but I recently practically live on Virtual box
[17:45] <zykotick9> !paste | unkrr
[17:45] <TorbenBeta> Sorry for the half off-topic question; on which site can I post code-snippets?
[17:45] <newbie|2> Can someone help me out with a scrubie question? For some reason this VM is going SLOW even though I have 2gb of ram dedicated to it, is there anything else I can do to make it less derp?
[17:45] <unkrr> zykotick9, thnx .. :)
[17:46] <gvo> !paste | TorbenBeta
[17:46] <lisaweinfurtner> what is pstebin?
[17:46] <az3r> :(
[17:46] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: It's a place to put multline code
[17:47] <hlfshell> Hello everyone - anyone here know how to get apache2 in ubuntu to use mod_rewrite to look for an .htcaccess file? I have the module loaded but it seems to be not reading the .htaccess files.
[17:47] <lisaweinfurtner> silbo i get "unknown interface eth0=eth0."
[17:47] <ionut> !help
[17:48] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: what version of ubuntu?
[17:48] <ionut> I have usb mouse lag
[17:48] <ionut> in precise beta
[17:48] <lisaweinfurtner> 10.4 tried it before with 11 but someone told me to tri the older one to solve my problem..
[17:49] <bazhang> ionut, #ubuntu+1 for 12.04 please
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> ionut  it's because precise is not yet ready -- support in #ubuntu+1
[17:49] <newbie|2> So I am following a guide to set up this VM and it told me to "Go to the places menu at the top of the VM" I have been looking forever, and where is this?
[17:49] <ionut> I had same problem in latest versions
[17:49] <ionut> isnt because beta
[17:49] <Debolaz> Is it possible to get modern mac keyboard layouts for ubuntu?
[17:49] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Laptop or desktop?
[17:49] <Debolaz> The ones that come as default for the system isn't matching the apple keyboard.
[17:49] <bazhang> ionut, thats the channel for support, so please take it there
[17:49] <zykotick9> ionut: by choosing to run 12.04 now, you choose not to get support in this channel.
[17:49] <lisaweinfurtner> laptop
[17:49] <ionut> only in 10.04 LTS wasnt mouse problem..
[17:49] <lisaweinfurtner> hp
[17:49] <gvo> Ah.
[17:50] <Dr_willis> newbie|2,  the guide is for the old gnome not unity, or try gnome-classic. or try opening a file manager and see if the places menu is there.
[17:50] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: cable or wireless?
[17:50] <newbie|2> all this server spam makes it difficult to read..
[17:50] <lisaweinfurtner> both dosn't work
[17:50] <Dr_willis> newbie|2,  i dont see any spam. :) but i do hide all parts/joins/quits.
[17:50] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: I think you need to download new drivers
[17:50] <newbie|2> ahhhh, hiow do you do that?
[17:51] <bazhang> Sibo, what chipset is he using
[17:51] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: As suggested  sudo lspci and paste to pastebin.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> newbie|2  in irssi, it's with /ignore joins quits parts modes nicks
[17:51] <lisaweinfurtner> alrigth so you don't think its because of the version of ubuntu? i'd actually like to use ubuntu 11.x
[17:51] <Sibo> bazhang: He was getting ¨marvell technology grou ltd. device 4357 (rev 10)¨ But i think this is the wireless card
[17:51] <zykotick9> newbie|2: what client are you using?  i doubt irssi myself.
[17:52] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: No as Sibo says, it's probably a driver issue.
[17:52] <newbie|2> KVIrc
[17:52] <bazhang> Sibo, yeah that sounded weird
[17:52] <lisaweinfurtner> cant paste the log because it is a nother computer
[17:52] <lisaweinfurtner> so where can i manually download the drivers?
[17:52] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: OK
[17:52] <bazhang> lisaweinfurtner, please give us the pastebin, type all ethernet related items
[17:53] <gvo> bazhang: catch22 she can't connect.
[17:53] <zykotick9> bazhang: without internet, pastebin might be difficult
[17:53] <bazhang> lisaweinfurtner, so copy to flash key then brin g to this computer
[17:53] <Sibo> zykotick9: lol
[17:53] <lisaweinfurtner> just a moment pls
[17:53] <gvo> bazhang: Put it on a thumb drive and move it to the system you're using
[17:53] <gvo> Sorry that was for lisaweinfurtner
[17:53] <bazhang> sneakernet is not that hard
[17:53] <Sibo> bazhang: maybe is a "sudo lshw -C network" output handy?
[17:54] <Xunie> So eh, what's up with packages that have ":i386" after them?  So install drivers will be a little harder for him
[17:55] <jackie0> !who ubottu
[17:55] <lisaweinfurtner> yes it does
[17:55] <Xunie> zykotick9, bazhang I know about 32 and 64 bit incompatibilities, but how does it work?
[17:55] <bazhang> Sibo, aptitude is not even installed by default anymore, but one problem at a time
[17:55] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: if eth0 is up.Try: sudo dhclient -r
[17:55] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Set the ip address manually for now.
[17:55] <zykotick9> Xunie: multiarch allows both 32 and 64 bit packages to be install on the same system, prelaces the the lib32 stuff.
[17:56] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: sudo dhclient
[17:56] <zykotick9> Xunie: it's still a work-in-progress...
[17:56] <bazhang> sudo dhclient eth0 lisaweinfurtner
[17:56] <Xunie> If it's a work-in-progress, why is it in the 11.10 repo?
[17:56] <AkhlD> Terminated!!
[17:56] <newbie|2> Any ideas on why Ubuntu  is running so ridiclously slow? I have an i7 processor with 2gb of ram dedicated to it
[17:56] <gvo> newbie|2: in a VM?
[17:57] <Sibo> bazhang: true... I using only debian. Haha
[17:57] <newbie|2> yes
[17:57] <zykotick9> Xunie: ubuntu doesn't wait for things to be ready/done - everything is rolled out ASAP and users beta-test.  way-of-ubuntu.
[17:57] <gvo> newbie|2: which one?
[17:57] <Xunie> zykotick9, totally different from Debian. :P
[17:57] <bazhang> !away > tazjin|away
[17:57] <zykotick9> Xunie: that's for sure
[17:57] <newbie|2> Oracle virtual box
[17:58] <Xunie> So, how's aptitude's support with multiarch?
[17:58] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: And?
[17:58] <lisaweinfurtner> "no such device"
[17:58] <Xunie> Last time I did some stuff, it ended up all messed up. >_>
[17:58] <zykotick9> Xunie: aptitude was removed from default ubuntu for a reason... you might want to stick to apt-get
[17:58] <gvo> newbie|2: Don't know.
[17:58] <az3r> ؟
[17:58] <newbie|2> hmm, alright
[17:58] <newbie|2> As I type in the irc, my text doesn't appear until I click
[17:58] <jola> ssta, ok, I've made enough space on the external NTFS disk, so now I have to create an empty file and then do "sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/path/to/file bs=1M", right?
[17:59] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Can you set a static IP adress?
[17:59] <Xunie> zykotick9, thanks. >_>
[17:59] <Xunie> Found it out the hard way, though.
[17:59] <Xunie> What about synaptic? Is that still good-to-go?
[18:00] <Sibo> gvo: not in n-m. Because n-m dont see the eth0 interface
[18:00] <zykotick9> Xunie: ? also removed, so not sure ;)
[18:00] <gvo> I thought she said the eth0 was up.
[18:00] <Dr_willis> most removed due to size limitations of a cd.
[18:00] <dlentz> syanptic is still available and works fine
[18:00] <Dr_willis> ive never herad of anyone with multiarch issues in synaptic or aptitude.
[18:00] <ktosiek> zykotick9: why was aptitude removed? Is it still barfing on multiarch?
[18:00] <Dr_willis> but ive rarely heard of multiuarch issues
[18:01] <Dr_willis> !info aptitude
[18:01] <Dr_willis> not installed by default is not the same as 'removed from the repos' :)
[18:01] <zykotick9> ktosiek: no idea.  i don't personally buy the cd-space argument.
[18:01] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: what does sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart do?
[18:01] <Xunie> !info synaptic
[18:01] <ktosiek> Dr_willis: I had some, it wanted to remove most of :i386 packages :-P
[18:01] <Caifas1> how can I set my ubuntu 11.10 to auto login via command line?
[18:01] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: gvo has a pouint
[18:02] <lisaweinfurtner> "OK"
[18:02] <Sibo> lisaweinfurtner: gvo has a point*
[18:02] <lisaweinfurtner> internet is still not working
[18:02] <az3r> مممم
[18:02] <Sibo> It the ethernet port led burning?
[18:02] <az3r>  شباب
[18:02] <az3r>  مين فيكو  عربي
[18:02] <FloodBot1> az3r: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:02] <Dr_willis> Caifas1,  why do you need to? you could make a custome /etc/init/tty1.conf (or similer) that starts up a user shell.
[18:02] <az3r>   يحكي معي مشان الله
[18:02] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: It just said "OK" ??
[18:03] <bazhang> lisaweinfurtner, the pastebin url?
[18:03] <gridbag> az3r: Good point.
[18:03] <lisaweinfurtner> "reconfiguring network interfaces.... (OK)"
[18:03] <Sibo> gvo bazhang lisaweinfurtner, burn the led on the networkinterface?
[18:03] <az3r> ؟
[18:03] <dlentz> !ar | az3r
[18:03] <lisaweinfurtner> sibo don't even know if my laptop has one - no :)
[18:04] <bazhang> !sa | az3r
[18:04] <Caifas1> Dr_willis: I need to set a remote machine to auto login gnome, i dont know which file i have to edit :(
[18:04] <az3r> ؟
[18:04] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: The led is usually pretty small. and hard to see if it's not lit.
[18:04] <Sibo> gvo bazhang lisaweinfurtner, what i mean. Is the cable correct? maybe it is not your laptop. Or the network port is broken. I don't know
[18:04] <gvo> Good point.
[18:04] <lisaweinfurtner> yeah wire works totally fine on my mac
[18:05] <gvo> But didn't she say it worked OK on Windows?
[18:05] <bazhang> lisaweinfurtner, please tell us the pastebin url you have typed into
[18:05] <jeremiah_> I am having problems using wifi and opening zip packages in ubuntu. wifi is not found and acts like it doesn't even know what wifi is. when i want to open a zip. for a minecraft world i always get this message http://pastebin.com/UFY0HCVR
[18:05] <gvo> bazhang: I don't think she has.
[18:05] <bazhang> jeremiah_, in 12.04?
[18:05] <lisaweinfurtner> bazhang don't know what you mean sorry
[18:05] <gvo> bazhang: I don't think she understands pastebin.
[18:05] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, do you have pastebinit installed?
[18:05] <lisaweinfurtner> i dont :)
[18:06] <Dr_willis> Caifas1,  the login managers have such settings.. gdm.conf if using gdm. lightdm also has .conf settings  why do you need to do that anyway?
[18:06] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, do you have teamviewer?
[18:06] <gvo> !pastebin| lisaweinfurtner
[18:06] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com <----- lisaweinfurtner
[18:06] <jeremiah_> bazhang, maybe.... ...nobody is helping me in there. :(
[18:06] <zykotick9> brokencodes: gvo, what is pastebinit going to do without network?
[18:06] <bazhang> jeremiah_, dont ask for help in here. be patient there
[18:06] <Caifas1> Dr_willis: my boss desires :p~
[18:06] <Sibo> brokencodes, teamviewer without internet xD
[18:06] <brokencodes> True... damn
[18:06] <gvo> sneakernet zykotick9
[18:07] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: do you have a usb drive handy?
[18:07] <lisaweinfurtner> i have just installed ubuntu and the laptop has no connection to the internet.... how should i have installed anything... i dont know how to install something manually on ubuntu
[18:07] <Dr_willis> Caifas1,  he can ssh in and start vnc server, or other remote desktops if thats what  he wants.. unless hes just too lazy to enter his name/pass when he powers on his machine.
[18:07] <grkblood> how do I check the available resolutions of my tv using the hdmi port?
[18:07] <lisaweinfurtner> yes i ave a usb
[18:07] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, do you know how to use terminal?
[18:08] <lisaweinfurtner> i know how to tipe in commands
[18:08] <grkblood> xrandr i believe is showing the deault resolutions of the port, not the tv
[18:08] <Caifas1> Dr_willis: haha
[18:08] <brokencodes> ok
[18:08] <grkblood> im not sure though
[18:08] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, open terminal please
[18:08] <bazhang> control alt T     lspci      paste.ubuntu.com lisaweinfurtner
[18:08] <Sibo> brokencodes: good luck
[18:08] <brokencodes> bazhang, she has no internet
[18:08] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: OK, pop a usb drive into the laptop and redirect the output of lspci -v to a file on the drive.
[18:08] <brokencodes> yes
[18:08] <bazhang> brokencodes, type it, take to flash key, copy over
[18:08] <lisaweinfurtner> ok i do
[18:09] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: then move it to the other system and edit it and paste it to the pastebin site.
[18:09] <jola> how can I make a compressed backup of a corrupted partition?
[18:09] <brokencodes> lisa, can you tell me the volume name of the USB drive?
[18:09] <brokencodes> remember linux is case sensitive
[18:10] <lisaweinfurtner> spaceloop
[18:11] <Dr_willis> jola,  ddrescue or dd_rescue can try to recover data from a currupoted partion to a file, you then compress
[18:11] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, what is the volume name of the usb stick in the ubuntu machine?
[18:11] <Xunie> !info ion3
[18:11] <Xunie> :/
[18:11] <lisaweinfurtner> the name is spaceloop
[18:11] <brokencodes> ok
[18:12] <brokencodes> lspci -v > /media/spaceloop/lspci.txt
[18:12] <Xunie> !info notion
[18:12] <dlentz> Xunie, what are you looking for?
[18:12] <Xunie> A good tiling window manager that isn't "awesome". Nevermind. :P
[18:12] <grkblood> can you not maximize flash players on a secondary monitor in linux?
[18:12] <grkblood> or ubuntu unity to be more specific
[18:12] <Dr_willis> grkblood,  i have done that befor with my nvidia drivers.
[18:13] <Dr_willis> grkblood,  havent really tried it lately.
[18:13] <grkblood> has there been any progress in muxless gpu switching?
[18:13] <escott> grkblood, you can maximize but it doesnt behave well
[18:14] <escott> grkblood, clicking anywhere in the primary will cause apps like hulu to lose focus and unmaximize
[18:14] <lisaweinfurtner> ok i have the file on my mac know
[18:14] <grkblood> im stuck using the intel integrated gpu until gpu switching is done
[18:14] <brokencodes> grkblood, the second monitor should have the same refreshrate as the primary, and the same resolution, then it works well
[18:14] <jola> Dr_willis, is the syntax the same as for dd?
[18:14] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: edit it and copy the text to the clipboard.
[18:14] <brokencodes> open the file, lisaweinfurtner, and select all the text, then submit it to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Then open up the browser to the pastebin site
[18:15] <gvo> Follow the instructions on the site.
[18:15] <Dr_willis> jola,  ddrescue has similer syntax. you want to check its docs first. it has a logfile option that you do want to use.  ive used it to recover several TB of data from a usb hd once. took a week... but it got 99%  of the info.
[18:15] <lisaweinfurtner> ok how do i access this pastebin site?
[18:15] <gvo> !pastebin|lisaw
[18:16] <gvo> !pastebin| lisaweinfurtner
[18:16] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Did you get that?
[18:16] <bazhang> hit save and then give us the url lisaweinfurtner
[18:16] <jola> Dr_willis, the NTFS signature is corrupted, I can't read anything from it, how could I recover the files once I have the raw copy as a file?
[18:16] <brokencodes> we are waiting with baited breath
[18:16] <lisaweinfurtner> ok i pasted it in
[18:16] <bazhang> bated breath as well
[18:17] <digitalcake> is there a gui I can see all the running services on 11.10?
[18:17] <brokencodes> yes, that too
[18:17] <gvo> digitalcake htop works for me
[18:17] <brokencodes> digitalcake, gnome-system-monitor
[18:17] <bazhang> lisaweinfurtner, save it, give us the url
[18:17] <digitalcake> looking for System -> Administration -> Services
[18:17] <lisaweinfurtner> ah got it ^^
[18:17] <Dr_willis> jola,  for ntfs.. not sure.   you could try just mounting the file via the loopback feature of mount and see what it can access after ddrescue has done its work.
[18:17] <lisaweinfurtner> http://paste.ubuntu.com/929897/
[18:18] <brokencodes> Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 4357 (rev 10)
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 30e4
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	Memory at d3100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	I/O ports at 3000 [size=256]
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[18:18] <FloodBot1> brokencodes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:18] <brokencodes> 	Kernel driver in use: sky2
[18:19] <zykotick9> digitalcake: no GUIs for service admin since Upstart that i'm aware of
[18:19] <overshift> guys, i have a problem with my space on File System. Some time ago i loggeded as root (don't know for sure) and copy-paste a file into /var/www/ to be able for someone to download it trough my webserver. after that i've deleted and the space that the file occupied has never been made free. i deleted it from the trash too. the space that the file occupied (4-5 gb) is still occupied by something and i do not know what
[18:19] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: OK so it's using th sky2 driver.
[18:19] <digitalcake> I was following this were it shows a older GUI http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-speed-up-ubuntu-linux-fine.html
[18:19] <lisaweinfurtner> what am i supposed to do?
[18:20] <lisaweinfurtner> new driver?
[18:20] <brokencodes> no
[18:21] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner,
[18:21] <brokencodes> open terminal
[18:21] <brokencodes> sudo ifdown eth0
[18:21] <StepNjump> Hi, I would have a question! Is it safer to store data on an external hard drive that are going to be accessed by ubuntu on NTFS or ext4? Does it make any difference?
[18:21] <brokencodes> sudo ifup eth0
[18:21] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Now let's look at ifconfig -a just like we did with lspci.
[18:21] <brokencodes> she doesn't need to
[18:21] <brokencodes> I know the problem
[18:22] <gvo> brokencodes: Since /etc/init.d/network restart didn't help, I doubt ifup will.
[18:22] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, can you do the following pls?
[18:22] <overshift> guys, i have a problem with my space on File System. Some time ago i loggeded as root (don't know for sure) and copy-paste a file into /var/www/ to be able for someone to download it trough my webserver. after that i've deleted and the space that the file occupied has never been made free. i deleted it from the trash too. the space that the file occupied (4-5 gb) is still occupied by something and i do not know what
[18:22] <zykotick9> StepNjump: NTFS/FAT does support POSIX (ie gnu/linux) permissions - could be an issue...
[18:22] <brokencodes> network restart only works if its in the interfaces file
[18:23] <lisaweinfurtner> brokencodes your comand gave me "ignorng unknow interface eth0=eth0"
[18:23] <zykotick9> overshift: is this a USB drive?
[18:23] <brokencodes> for both?
[18:23] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  depends on whats going to be accessing the data also.
[18:23] <overshift> no, no USB drive.
[18:23] <StepNjump> zykotick9: so you are saying then it's best to stick with ext4?
[18:23] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, for both?
[18:23] <lisaweinfurtner> ifdown gives eth0 not configured
[18:23] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  is a windows system going to be accessing the files?
[18:23] <zykotick9> StepNjump: there are many factors.  Do you want to share teh drive with windows?
[18:23] <brokencodes> ok
[18:24] <StepNjump> zykotick9: Cuz at one point, I thought a whole directory got emptied but I might have moved them elsewhere. Don't remember
[18:24] <duanedesign> the job i had before this one was a total nightmare/wc
[18:24] <brokencodes> sudo ifconfig eth0
[18:24] <lisaweinfurtner> ok multible lines as an answer
[18:24] <lisaweinfurtner> do you need them?
[18:24] <StepNjump> Dr_willis: zykotick9: Well, ideally yes... but not necessarily.... What is important for me is the safety whenever I access my files using my ubuntu
[18:25] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  safty = make backups.
[18:25] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  and backup the backups
[18:25] <jola> Dr_willis, so I do "sudo dd_rescue -b 1M -l /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/logfile -o /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/bbfile /dev/sda2 /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/xp_C_backup", ok?
[18:25] <brokencodes> yes pls
[18:25] <StepNjump> I know... I will backup
[18:25] <zykotick9> Dr_willis: don't forget "offsite" ;)
[18:25] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Take a look at page two, last post of this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1753698&page=2
[18:25] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: See if that does anything.
[18:25] <Dr_willis> jola,  id have to reread the ddrescue docs.. i think ive normally used 'ddrescue' not 'dd_rescue'
[18:26] <StepNjump> but does it happen often that the data will just simply 'disapear'? Dr_willis zykotick9
[18:26] <brokencodes> can you please try sudo ifconfig eth0 dynamic
[18:26] <Dr_willis> jola,  http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[18:26] <jola> Dr_willis, I installed it with apt-get
[18:26] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  i find its more likely the user will accidently delete stuff.. then the data vanishing.
[18:26] <lisaweinfurtner> i do not have windows installed on my machine
[18:26] <jola> Dr_willis, there is also gddrescue, but not ddrescue
[18:26] <Dr_willis> jola,  ddrescue is NOT the same as 'dd_rescue'
[18:27] <Dr_willis> !find ddrescue
[18:27] <Dr_willis> !info ddrescue
[18:27] <Dr_willis> !info dd_rescue
[18:27] <jola> Dr_willis, what's the difference?
[18:27] <Dr_willis> jola,  totally differnt apps. :)
[18:27] <Miadon> different programs
[18:27] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, sudo ifconfig eth0 dynamic
[18:27] <jola> what do they do differently?
[18:27] <Miadon> i forget
[18:27] <Dr_willis> Ive only used 'ddrescue'
[18:27] <lisaweinfurtner> nothing happens
[18:28] <jola> it seems dd_rescue does the same
[18:28] <brokencodes> you should have access to the internet now
[18:28] <jola> so should I install gddrescue?
[18:28] <Dr_willis> !info gddrescue
[18:28] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, you should have access to the internet now
[18:28] <Dr_willis> not sure how ddrescue differs from gddrescue
[18:28] <Miadon> A large difference between ddrescue and dd_rescue is that dd_rescue can pipe output to STDOUT whereas ddrescue can only transfer block/file to block/file.
[18:28] <Miadon> One example of this usage would be transfering a disk image over the network using ssh.
[18:29] <lisaweinfurtner> no i havn't
[18:29] <brokencodes> can you try ping <IP_ADDRESS> pls?
[18:29] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:29] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Do an ifconfig -a, you should see an eth0 block.  Is there a inet addr:... line?
[18:29] <lisaweinfurtner> network is unreachable
[18:29] <jola> Dr_willis, ok, I installed gddrescue. and now I have /sbin/ddrescue. should I now do "sudo ddrescue -b 1M -l /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/logfile -o /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/bbfile /dev/sda2 /media/Elements/backup/xp_C/xp_C_backup"?
[18:29] <brokencodes> she did that
[18:29] <brokencodes> there were multiple lines
[18:30] <gvo> But is there an inet addr line?
[18:30] <lisaweinfurtner> no there is no inet addr line
[18:30] <gvo> So she's not getting an address.
[18:30] <lisaweinfurtner> ah there is but not on eth0. its on "lo"
[18:30] <lisaweinfurtner> inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> mask <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:30] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Thats always there.
[18:31] <lisaweinfurtner> damn :)
[18:31] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, sudo dhclient eth0 &
[18:31] <Miadon> Hi... I've been asking for some help on multiple forums.. as I'm not finding any clear answers... but I am having trouble installing Ubuntu (and any linux distro) on my new build... which is a UEFI only (as far as I can tell) motherboard.. with a sandybridge-E processor.  The furthest I can get on the install disk is to a failsafe grub2 menu  but choosing any option the screen just goes black and I can't see anything but I can hear the disk loading stuff.  Als
[18:31] <Miadon> o I have tried numerous options I have read like nomodeset and xforcevesa and nv.modeset=0 and neauve.modeset=0 (sorry I know that's spelt wrong)  and I am out of ideas ..... help... :s
[18:31] <jola> ah, no, ddrescue only has the -g option
[18:31] <gvo> I still think we should try to manually set an ip address.
[18:32] <Dr_willis> jola,  ive never used 'gddrescue' the only ddrescue commands ive used are examples slightly modified from that http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html url. like  ddrescue  /dev/sda1 /media/sparedrive/hdimage logfile
[18:32] <brokencodes> gvo, we are assuming she knows IP addresses for her LAN
[18:32] <lisaweinfurtner> brkoencodes its doing something
[18:32] <gvo> We can find it out.
[18:32] <gvo> She's on a mac and it's probably on the same lan
[18:32] <lisaweinfurtner> and now: no dhcpoffers received
[18:32] <brokencodes> ok
[18:32] <ohptlabs> Miadon, what dists have you tried and what versions of ubuntu?
[18:32] <brokencodes> we are getting somewhere
[18:32] <lisaweinfurtner> the mac is connected via wlan
[18:33] <gvo> Oh?
[18:33] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, can you get an IP address from one of the other machines on your network?
[18:33] <Miadon> 12.04  and archboot as they were the only distros on hand i had that could boot via uefi
[18:33] <gvo> The linux system dualboots windows?
[18:33] <Miadon>  both the same.. get to a failsafe grub and then black screen
[18:33] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: ?
[18:33] <brokencodes> gvo, the problem is one of 3 (Sky2 driver)
[18:33] <lisaweinfurtner> no
[18:33] <brokencodes> ok
[18:33] <lisaweinfurtner> i totally earased everything on the machine and installed ubuntu
[18:34] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: If you move the ethernet cable to the mac what happens?
[18:34] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, can you describe the connection to your router for me please?
[18:34] <lisaweinfurtner> i can access internet with wire on the mac
[18:34] <lisaweinfurtner> as i said before
[18:34] <lisaweinfurtner> and on my windows machine as well
[18:35] <pw-toxic> hi, there is a very short bash command where i can stream the error log for example of apache2
[18:35] <pw-toxic> can someone please tell me the command? ;)
[18:35] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: OK so go into your windows system bring up a cmd window and type ipconfig/all
[18:35] <gvo> I think.
[18:35] <Dr_willis> pw-toxic,  like tail -f /var/log/thelogfile
[18:35] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, what kind of router do you have?
[18:35] <Miadon> tail
[18:35] <jola> hm, seems like the -g option isn't needed to get a log file
[18:35] <pw-toxic> Dr_willis, thanks
[18:35] <lisaweinfurtner> fritzbox
[18:35] <brokencodes> gvo, she no longer has windows
[18:35] <gvo> she just said she had a windows machine.
[18:36] <lisaweinfurtner> right
[18:36] <Dr_willis> pw-toxic,  theres color-tail tools out ther ealso  to colorize log files.
[18:36] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: You do or don't?
[18:36] <brokencodes> the machine we are working on WAS the windows machine
[18:36] <brokencodes> :)
[18:36] <Miadon> ohptlabs, did you have any ideas?
[18:36] <lisaweinfurtner> i had one and know i have ubuntu
[18:36] <lisaweinfurtner> now*
[18:36] <brokencodes> s/know/now/g
[18:36] <ohptlabs> Miadon, yeah but its off topic for here one sec.
[18:36] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: OK so do you know how to bring up a terminal window on the mac?
[18:36] <Miadon> pm?
[18:37] <brokencodes> give me a minute lisaweinfurtner
[18:37] <gvo> Is is OS X?
[18:37] <brokencodes> no
[18:37] <gvo> is it
[18:37] <brokencodes> its ubuntu
[18:37] <gvo> The mac isn running ubuntu?
[18:37] <gvo> is
[18:37] <brokencodes> no
[18:37] <mister2> is there a way to add a right click 'add to playlist' option to nautilus' menus?
[18:37] <mister2> for vls
[18:37] <mister2> *vlc
[18:37] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: terminal window on mac?
[18:38] <fasdfadsf> what paste client do i have in ubuntu live ?
[18:38] <lisaweinfurtner> yeah
[18:38] <gvo> OK do that and type ifconfig -a
[18:38] <brokencodes> she will have to turn off autoneg first
[18:38] <brokencodes> this is the first thing wrong
[18:39] <brokencodes> gvo, ethtool -A eth0 autoneg off
[18:39] <brokencodes> gvo, ethtool -A eth0 online
[18:40] <lisaweinfurtner> guys thanks for your help but i decided to install windows again for now. i need the machine tomorrow morning
[18:40] <lisaweinfurtner> i have a kind of time presure with that
[18:40] <Sibo> gvo bazhang lisaweinfurtner brokencodes, already done?
[18:40] <gvo> lisaweinfurtner: Sorry
[18:40] <Dr_willis> a reinstall of windows = about 3 days work here.
[18:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[18:40] <StepNjump> Dr_willis: what do you mean backup the backups? Is linux so weak that it corrupts the data so often?
[18:40] <lisaweinfurtner> thanks and sorry wasting your time...
[18:40] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  the os dosent matter.. if your backups are imporntant.. BACK THEM UP...
[18:40] <brokencodes> lisaweinfurtner, its a simple problem, but with all the noise here, its hard to keep up
[18:41] <Dr_willis> StepNjump,  ive lost more data in windows then i ever have in linux.
[18:41] <donavan01> anyone know if I can pause a process some how so I can shut put my laptop into standby till I get home
[18:41] <gvo> brokencodes: who you calling noise?  ;)
[18:41] <brokencodes> not you
[18:41] <gvo> lol
[18:41] <brokencodes> not anyone, for that matter
[18:41] <brokencodes> its the other things going on
[18:41] <StepNjump> Dr_willis: oh ok.. that's great...
[18:41] <StepNjump> My data is very important.
[18:41] <brokencodes> I'm a disorganized schizoprenic
[18:42] <brokencodes> everything is noise to me :)
[18:42] <brokencodes> gvo pm?
[18:42] <gvo> brokencodes: OK
[18:44] <ubukou> hey everybody.. anyone here knows the right direction to make an on demand storage with my server box?
[18:44] <ubukou> i got 10 drives in it and it is a pain in the ass to turn it on and off for power saving purposes.
[18:45] <Dr_willis> 'on demand storage' meaning what exactly?
[18:45] <Dr_willis> You want it to power on remotely as needed? that may be a bit tough.
[18:45] <panara> !list
[18:45] <Dr_willis> Most hard drives can go to sleep after so much time. so i just leave my server on all the time.
[18:45] <ubukou> Dr_willis, exactly.. i have in on wake on lan but it is really timeconsuming to do so every time i need it..
[18:46] <mister2> is there a way to play two vlc's simultaneously?
[18:46] <ubukou> Dr_willis, doesnt it consume to much power that way.. especially since it is on a raid config with another extra two 2tb drives.
[18:46] <michele_> ciao
[18:47] <jiltdil> how to check where  my grub is installed . On mbr or other place. Any command to see this
[18:48] <scott_z> is there a way to check a filesystem for errors while it is mounted or unmounted both nondestructive and destructive. I have a file that gets about 3/4 the way through on a copy and then gets an error. I want to see if it is a bad spot on the HD or a corrupt file. If it is a bad spot on the HD is there a way to isolate it and lock it out. I am getting ready to move from 32 to 64 bit and am backing things up. I want to alleviate any potential problems ahea
[18:48] <scott_z> d of time.
[18:48] <Dr_willis> jiltdil,  i recall 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' showd me that info once.. but be carefull with the command. You can reinstall grub to hds you dont want i recall. :)
[18:48] <jiltdil> Dr_willis, thanks
[18:48] <tbrown> Am trying to install and upgrade to 9.04 to 9.10 but it will not let me what am I doing wrong
[18:49] <Dr_willis> scott_z,  i recall the 'fsarchiver' cli tool can copy/backup/verify files you may want to check into it.
[18:49] <ubukou> tbrown, is there a message about held packages?
[18:50] <ohptlabs> scott_z, i've also had the problem with older disks and just had to partition around the holes.
[18:50] <alket> How to make a deb package with binaries which will basicly move to /opt/ ?
[18:50] <scott_z> ohptlabs: how do you find the holes.
[18:50] <Dr_willis> i tend to take such problem disks.. put them in usb enclosures and use them for non-critical storage. :) like the wifes videos she plays back on her Roku.
[18:50] <scott_z> Dr_willis: thanks, i am looking into it.
[18:51] <ohptlabs> scott_z, i had used the command badblocks to find out where the bad blocks were
[18:51] <tbrown> I tryed the command line of sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and I try the update manager but I get an error saying Faild to fetch Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem. But I can connect to Google.com and do browing the web with no problem:(
[18:51] <Dr_willis> a dist-upgrade will not install the next release tbrown
[18:53] <tbrown> Dr_willis: Am on Ubuntu 9.04 am trying to get Ubuntu 9.10 Am not trying to get the new upgrade of 12.10 or what ever that new one is
[18:53] <Dr_willis> tbrown,   9.04 to 9.10 is a release upgrade also.
[18:53] <k-rAd-> i'm trying to download music from the soulseek network on nicotine plus but i'd like to be able to use the upnp module but i can't locate it in the repo
[18:54] <k-rAd-> Dr_willis !
[18:54] <Dr_willis> k-rAd-, ... no idea. :P
[18:54] <Miadon> download the 9.10 iso? and upgrade?
[18:54] <k-rAd-> Dr_willis, your a nice old friend of mine
[18:54] <Dr_willis> ;P do i owe you money? ;P
[18:55] <tbrown> Miadon: So you guys are saying that ubuntu 9.04 will not upgrade
[18:55] <avis> nope.  you helped me put my soul at ease.
[18:57] <Dr_willis> I never upgrade ;) clean installs are much cleaner.
[18:57] <Dr_willis> cant really imagine why you would want 9.10 either.
[18:57] <Dr_willis> !9.04
[18:58] <Dr_willis> !9.10
[18:58] <wrostek> Can anyone recommend a really good wifi card for ubuntu?
[18:58] <Dr_willis> wrostek,  usb or pci?
[18:58] <wrostek> pci
[18:59] <Dr_willis> wrostek,  i just checked amazon and their reviews till i found one people claimed worked fine in ubuntu/linux :)
[18:59] <Dr_willis> wrostek,  but these were usb. $8 each.
[18:59] <wylde> !hardware | wrostek
[19:00] <Dr_willis> problem with 'works in ubuntu' type lists - is often the hardware that works.. is no longer for sale.
[19:00] <urbancommando> Im running ubuntu 10.04,  is there a way I can combine hard drives to 1 partition?
[19:00] <gvo> urbancommando: have you looked at lvm
[19:00] <wrostek> thanks
[19:00] <Dr_willis> urbancommando, theres software raids and lvm. but  why do you need to? you could mount the 2nd hd to some location on the first..
[19:02] <gvo> Dr_willis: urbancommando Then there's the problem of the boot partition on lvm  if you only have one partion.
[19:03] <ansi> anyone.. i have installed Aptana on my ubuntu 11.10 and have installed apache2, in
[19:03] <brokencodes> wrostec, Dlink DWA-552
[19:03] <urbancommando> the reason why I want to raid it or lvm it is because im not sure how to access the 2nd hd other by using gui and im trying to stay way from gui
[19:03] <ansi> Aptana i have set the default webservwer as apache but still not able to preview
[19:03] <brokencodes> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS434US434&q=Dlink+PCI+Wifi+adapter&ion=1&um=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1344&bih=724&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=15290734706775720007&sa=X&ei=xMmJT9yeF6jq2AXnhJnICQ&ved=0CHwQ8wIwAA
[19:04] <urbancommando> can you give me an example how to access it through command line?
[19:04] <gvo> urbancommando: what do you want to do with it?
[19:04] <wylde> urbancommando: all you have to do is format the drive to the proper format, move the files in the target destination to the new drive then add a mount line if fstab to have the drive mount to the chosen location at boot.
[19:05] <Dr_willis> urbancommando,  time to learn how to mount drives.. much easier then trying to fight with lvm. :)
[19:05] <brokencodes> wrostek, AR5008 driver built into kernel since 2.6.11
[19:05] <Dr_willis> !mount | urbancommando
[19:05] <Zer000> gentlemen I am confused. If ubuntu 12.04 will have a gnome classic session, does that mean it will use gnome 2, which isn't developed anymore? Or will it use MATE or a modified gnome 3.2?
[19:05] <urbancommando> lol
[19:05] <urbancommando> the hd is already mount it
[19:06] <dlentz> Zer000, it will use gnome-fallback
[19:06] <ansi> can anyone help me on Aptana issue??
[19:06] <urbancommando> but how do i access it with command line
[19:06] <brokencodes> wrostek, its an atheros AR5008, works great with Ubuntu
[19:06] <gvo> urbancommando: Again what do you want to do with it?
[19:06] <brokencodes> and its inexpensive
[19:06] <dlentz> gnome-fallback =  gnome3 with a classic-style interface
[19:06] <gvo> urbancommando: what's the mount point?
[19:07] <Zer000> dlentz: ah ok thanks
[19:07] <wrostek> hey thanks broken codes, do you use that one?
[19:07] <brokencodes> no, but I researched it for you
[19:08] <brokencodes> its #5 on Google shopping's popular network cards
[19:08] <brokencodes> https://www.google.com/search?tbm=shop&tbs=cat:290,pdtr0:709607%7C709609&q=network%20card&ei=y8mJT_aYEOiosQehvvmSDw&ved=0CAYQtw4&hl=en
[19:08] <wrostek> Ok, thanks, that looks like the one I'm getting.. awesome
[19:08] <dlentz> wrostek, i like my netgear wna-1100 (works automatically on Linux >= 2.6.35), but it is usb and "only" 150N
[19:08] <brokencodes> I also thought the price was nice for an N device
[19:08] <Dr_willis> urbancommando,  you  make your fstab entry mount it whever you want it to be.  by default things auto mount to /media/whatever on first access
[19:09] <urbancommando> ugh never mind stupid me its really easy
[19:09] <brokencodes> ya, the WNA-1100 is a beast
[19:09] <wylde> urbancommando: you could dedicate the entire drive to /home . In that case you would copy the enitre contents of /home to the new drive, rename the old /home to sat /home.old (don't delete it until you know everything worked). Thean add a line to /etc/fstab something like UUID=f2c91c11-3d19-464d-9978-23b1b43fe229 /home		ext4	defaults	0	2
[19:09] <wylde> *sat = say
[19:10] <urbancommando> I need to read up on fstab
[19:10] <urbancommando> ty all
[19:10] <hu> say i want to copy over an entire filesystem into some folder. is sudo cp -r the fastest way to do this, or would some dd command work better?
[19:11] <brokencodes> copy, or move?
[19:11] <paulo_> change timezone in shell
[19:11] <hu> brokencodes: either way. it's on an external hard drive
[19:11] <brokencodes> mv is the fastest
[19:11] <ansi> Aptana!!!..ples help someine
[19:11] <brokencodes> but cpy leave the old behind
[19:11] <wylde> hu: is it for a backup?
[19:11] <hu> brokencodes: that shouldn't matter if they're on separate drives.
[19:11] <hu> wylde: yes
[19:12] <wylde> hu:  you could use rsync
[19:12] <hu> wylde: well, moreso that i want to wipe this drive afterwards
[19:12] <brokencodes> that too
[19:12] <Dr_willis> or fsarchiver to verify the copy
[19:12] <hu> wylde: is rsync still the correct option?
[19:12] <brokencodes> rsync will follow the filesystem and you can restart if you need to stop
[19:12] <Guest22083> I need small help correcting a small problem while running update in terminal
[19:12] <wylde> hu: then you can do incremental backups afterwards which is MUCH faster.