[08:39] <Church_of_FoamY> kubuntu
[08:41] <RAID1> does anyone here know anything about installing hoary on a hardware raid1?
[08:42] <theD3viL> RAID1, why need
[08:43] <RAID1> hi theD3viL
[08:43] <RAID1> i need to setup a webserver for a dept at a university
[08:43] <RAID1> they want the server to make use of a harwdware raid1 setup
[08:44] <RAID1> hoary installs just fine but will not boot once installation is complete
[08:44] <RAID1> i let the partition tool auto partition the primary disk
[08:44] <pfp> RAID1: maybe use a boot floppy (permanently)?
[08:44] <RAID1> according to the prof in charge, the hardware should mirror the primary disk to the secondary one after a day
[08:45] <pfp> heh, that's not RAID :)
[08:45] <RAID1> thing is though the prof had it working with fc
[08:45] <teknoprep> lol thats not RAID.. hahahahaha
[08:45] <Fator_Dee> ain't that just a backup?
[08:45] <RAID1> ok then what is it?
[08:45] <Seveas> teknoprep, it is
[08:45] <teknoprep> you professor is an idiot
[08:45] <^thehatsrule^> RAID does have it
[08:45] <RAID1> well the prof keeps calling it raid1
[08:45] <Seveas> but well, not after a day
[08:45] <Seveas> it should mirror constantly
[08:45] <teknoprep> RAID is done now.. not later
[08:46] <Taliesin`> RAID will mirror it constatly
[08:46] <^thehatsrule^> theres a mode that backups after every change
[08:46] <Seveas> ^thehatsrule^, not really
[08:46] <RAID1> well the harware says it is raid
[08:46] <Taliesin`> however their are a few promise cards that have "delayed miroring" but not to the extent of aday
[08:46] <Seveas> there is mirroring, striping and all sorts of combination with and without parity
[08:46] <teknoprep> RAID1, bleh setup wrong then
[08:46] <^thehatsrule^> oh, well i havnet used a raid in that format before
[08:46] <RAID1> the machine is equipped with promise technology incs superswap 1000 drives
[08:47] <RAID1> i just went into the bios of the machine and configured it to mirror
[08:47] <Taliesin`> well for promise, doesnt sound to promising so far :)
[08:47] <pfp> RAID1: hmm, did you mean that mirroring occurs once / day, or that you have 24h to set it up?
[08:47] <teknoprep> RAID1, then you talking about raid with snapshot.. the snapshot is there so you can perform a backup without interfering with the performance of the raid
[08:47] <RAID1> i'm not reinstalling hoary but 2 drives keep appearing in the partition tool
[08:47] <Taliesin`> one problem you are probably facing, im not sure ifg ubuntu comes with Promise raid modules out of the box ?
[08:48] <RAID1> i was suspecting that but their website doesn't seem to have any drivers for linux at all even though redhat is listed in their list of oses
[08:49] <Taliesin`> fedora = redhat
[08:49] <Taliesin`> probably why it works under fedora core.
[08:49] <teknoprep> fedora = redhat without proprietary binary drivers
[08:49] <RAID1> my main problem is that hoary will not boot once the stage1 install is complete
[08:49] <echelon> bah how can I play mp3s?
[08:49] <teknoprep> fedora = too easy of a setup
[08:49] <teknoprep> fedora = easy to setup a bitch to upgrade
[08:49] <Taliesin`> (echelon): with XMMS? :)
[08:49] <teknoprep> echelon, with amarok
[08:49] <Fator_Dee> echelon: read the restricted formats wiki
[08:50] <RAID1> i've tried grub and lilo and none work
[08:50] <pfp> RAID1: what are the symptoms?
[08:50] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: fedora = a superset of what will be Red Hat Enterprise.
[08:50] <teknoprep> RAID1, you are just setting up wrong
[08:50] <Taliesin`> i think the problem you are probably facing is
[08:50] <xentnex> mp3blaster
[08:50] <echelon> whats better xmms or vlc?
[08:50] <Taliesin`> you need to install the system on a non-raid device
[08:50] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: And why do you say it's hard to upgrade?
[08:50] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, without binary drivers tho
[08:50] <RAID1> with grub i get no errors during the install but once the machine goes down for reboot
[08:50] <Taliesin`> and have the RAID data running from seperate RAID drives
[08:50] <Foolish> I'm wondering, about this smeg thingy. Why does it put it's modules into lib instead of the python site-packages folder? I'm a fedora user, putting python modules into /usr/lib might even be what ubuntu does for all I know.
[08:50] <RAID1> i get the GRUB prompt and the machine just sits there
[08:50] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, have you ever tryed a distro upgarde on fedora.. so much shit breaks
[08:50] <Taliesin`> sounds like GRUB is in the MBR, but cant read the conf from the drive.
[08:51] <teknoprep> TSWoodV,  i make redhat servers.. i leave thatm that redhat version.. or i redo them on a new box
[08:51] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: Red Hat has no interest in being the first distro to be sued for either redistributing binaries that aren't GPLed or other stuff like NTFS support that may be patent encumbered.
[08:51] <theD3viL> can somebody tell me on which page he/her downloading torrents?
[08:51] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, i would never do upgrades anymore
[08:51] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: I've upgraded from Red Hat 7.2 straight to FC3.  No problems.
[08:51] <RAID1> do any of you know of a way around this problem?
[08:51] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: I'm going to try a RH 6.2 box soon.
[08:51] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, was it a desktop or server
[08:51] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, i would never do that with a server
[08:51] <echelon> I've installed XMMS, how can I run things with it now? where is it located?
[08:52] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): my idea is, install Ubuntu to a seperate drive, that is not part of the RAID
[08:52] <teknoprep> TSWoodV,  or was it a basic install
[08:52] <jon273> hm
[08:52] <Taliesin`> then mount the RAID'd partition where you require it, eg /var/www
[08:52] <Vytas> I'm not an ubuntu user, just was testing it. During install, I selected Lithuanian language (that is what I speak), ant then, fonts in gnome look awful. If I select English//POSIX from GDM menu, everything looks fine. I haven't seen this problem on other distros. Any ideas?
[08:52] <toxicfume> Hi all i have a problem
[08:52] <jon273> my ubuntu server just restarted at random for the third time this week
[08:52] <TSWoodV> teknoprep: Both desktops and servers.  No basic installs, either.  I'm pretty picky package-wise.
[08:52] <RAID1> yeah but they want it so that if one drive fails they pull it out and the secondary drive kicks in
[08:52] <Foolish> TSWoodV: not to feed the trolls or anything, but compared to debian, gentoo and loads of others, most RPM based distributions are quite a hassle to upgrade. Fedora and Red Hat included.
[08:52] <pfp> Taliesin`: that doesn't give HA though
[08:53] <Vytas> Foolish, gentoo is easy to upgrade
[08:53] <Taliesin`> however, his problem is prolly the fact it cant read FROM the drive, because you can load hte promise module before the kernel :P
[08:53] <jon273> nothing in log but "May 23 19:46:27 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#16ubuntu6: restart."
[08:53] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, more power to you..i work in a place i can't have downtime.. so i rebuild the box from scratch.. and move what i need .. and reconfigure... then put onto the network after tested
[08:53] <RAID1> then they put in a fresh drive and the image of the primary gets built onto the new empty drive before it is in a state to be able to kick in incase of failure
[08:53] <echelon> arrrg i can marry ubuntu
[08:53] <msieradzki> ?
[08:53] <msieradzki> :)
[08:53] <Taliesin`> (echelon): but your not allowed to divorce it! :)
[08:53] <teknoprep> TSWoodV, i do not upgrade a box unless its getting hardware update too
[08:53] <toxicfume> So I installed Ubunt on my laptop (with a lot of problems, had to start setup with acpi=off, and it couldn't detect the wireless signal from the router)..and now after installation, whenever i boot into ubuntu..at the startup it will give a message saying PnP BIOS failed...(or something like that) and once it boots fully in..my screen goes blank..nothing on it, how do i fix all that? :S
[08:53] <Fator_Dee> echelon: xmms should be under applications -> multimedia/sound/noises/whatever that was
[08:54] <jon273> Why would it reboot at random?
[08:54] <teknoprep> jon273, bad hardware
[08:54] <pfp> RAID1: Taliesin` is probably correct about grub not being able to read your drive; if it's possible to fit lilo/grub, kernel (and initrd?) on a floppy, that would probably solve it
[08:54] <nakor> can anyone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader?
[08:55] <teknoprep> jon273, try turning off acpid... /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[08:55] <jon273> but it says restart in the log
[08:55] <teknoprep> jon273, acpid could hurt it
[08:55] <echelon> yeah, ive got that Fator_Dee, thanks
[08:55] <teknoprep> jon273, try what i said
[08:55] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): is this similiar to what you are seeing? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25281.html
[08:55] <echelon> it just took a lil bit o' time to put him there
[08:55] <jon273> teknoprep, it's not there
[08:55] <teknoprep> type this in
[08:56] <pfp> RAID1: i'm not sure about the initrd, but i've done that on debian boxen w/ non-initrd kernels
[08:56] <teknoprep> sudo /etc/init.d/acpid stop
[08:56] <RAID1> nope
[08:56] <teknoprep> or sudo /etc/init.d/apci stop
[08:56] <RAID1> i don't see anything apart from GURB and the cursor
[08:56] <jon273> teknoprep, it's not there
[08:56] <teknoprep> jon273, then its not acpi
[08:56] <RAID1> the machine accpets no keyboard input
[08:56] <Vytas> Sorry for repeating, but maybe I wasn't seen:) During install, I selected Lithuanian language (that is what I speak), ant then, fonts in gnome look awful. If I select English//POSIX from GDM menu, everything looks fine. I haven't seen this problem on other distros. Any ideas?
[08:56] <jon273> cheers, sherlock
[08:56] <toxicfume> can anyone help me?
[08:56] <teknoprep> jon273, i have had problems with some machines creating random acpi msg's that reboot the machine
[08:56] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): whats hte model number of hte Promise raid card?
[08:56] <RAID1> superswap 10000
[08:57] <yacoob_> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/InstallFromKnoppixHowto is nice :)
[08:57] <RAID1> oops 1000
[08:57] <RAID1> superswap 1000
[08:57] <RAID1> sorry that was the drive
[08:57] <RAID1> the card is tx2000 fast rtak
[08:57] <Taliesin`> ty
[08:57] <RAID1> the card is tx2000 fast trak
[08:57] <nakor> can anyone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader? driver=(none) shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices for the card reader and i have the usb-storage and ide-scsi modules loaded.
[08:59] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): appears the same problem happens on Debian
[08:59] <vegi> are any german-speacking ubuntu users in the channel who can help me with the installation of ubuntu @ a sata raid? please query me thx
[08:59] <vegi> or english speaking
[09:00] <RAID1> everything i have read to date has been on setting up software raids and they all say that /boot should not be inthe raid
[09:00] <vegi> no i mean hardware raid
[09:00] <RAID1> not much info out there on installing everything to a hardware raid
[09:00] <jon273> also, am i supposed to have a logline similar to the following: "May 23 19:46:29 localhost kernel: RAMDISK: Loading 4252KiB [1 disk]  into ram disk... |^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^H/^H-^H\^H|^"
[09:00] <jon273> ?
[09:00] <toxicfume> can someone help me with my ubuntu installation on my laptop? it's causing lots of troubles :/
[09:00] <Taliesin`> yeah
[09:00] <jon273> oops, longer than i though
[09:00] <echelon> Now, the only thing I need is how do I set the watch in my taskbar?
[09:00] <Fator_Dee> jon273: that's normal, at least I have one :-p
[09:00] <vegi> any german in this channel?
[09:00] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ <- it's from debian, but similiar setup....
[09:00] <echelon> and cacnel the auto-update
[09:01] <RAID1> toxicfume what is happening when you try to install to your laptop?
[09:01] <Seveas> jon273, that is completely normal
[09:01] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ <- see if you can follow this at all and see if it helps, but it looks like by ddefault, Debian or Ubuntu will not install correctly with LILO or GRUB because the fact that their are no prmoise modules in teh default kernel
[09:01] <jon273> why dont my other linux oxes do it then?
[09:01] <jon273> *boxes
[09:01] <yacoob_> Hey.
[09:02] <Fator_Dee> jon273: because they are not ubuntu?
[09:02] <yacoob_> Where is this netinstall livecd, that docs are writing about?
[09:02] <Seveas> jon273, maybe they don't use an initrd
[09:02] <RAID1> thanks for the link
[09:02] <Taliesin`> (jon273): all it is, is when its loading, if your eyes are quick enough you'll see aspinning line, as hsows by the | / \ symbols
[09:02] <RAID1> i'll give that a try and mail the results to the user list
[09:02] <toxicfume> RAID1: well I already installed it..but it caused me problems, like..it would hang if i didn't start setup with the "acpi=off" parameter(which means i don't get all the nice acpi features of Centrino) and then it wouldn't detect the wireless signal from the 3Com ap(but it detects the wireless NIC)
[09:02] <RAID1> mine would turn off automatically due to heat
[09:03] <jon273> Taliesin`, thx. That's just the explanation i was looking for
[09:03] <RAID1> to overcome that i used noapic and nolapic
[09:03] <toxicfume> noapic and nolapic didn't work for me..acpi=off seemed to be the only solution
[09:03] <toxicfume> anyways
[09:03] <toxicfume> i installed it anyways
[09:03] <stuNNed> hi lotusleaf
[09:03] <toxicfume> but now
[09:03] <Taliesin`> (RAID1): No problems, sorry I cant help further, but it appears it to do with "binary drivers" issue,
[09:03] <nakor> i onced had to use acpi=off to install and then could use it on after installation...
[09:04] <Taliesin`> where Debian and Ubuntu wont include them by default.
[09:04] <toxicfume> when i start up ubuntu..first at the start, it gives me a message saying somethinglike (PnP BIOS failed..upgrade BIOS...etc) and then once it finishes the startup procedure..i get a blank screen
[09:04] <vegi> can any user help me with sata raid, installation of ubuntu? please /query vegi
[09:04] <Jet2k5> hey guys
[09:04] <Jet2k5> I got a new linux-image to update
[09:04] <toxicfume> nakor: oh really? i hope  that works for me too
[09:04] <Jet2k5> does this mean a new kernel?
[09:05] <Jet2k5> or just the image, what ever it is
[09:05] <toxicfume> nakor: but now i don't see anything on the screen when i bootup ubuntu on my laptop :/
[09:05] <Seveas> Jet2k5, it's the kernel
[09:05] <Jet2k5> k
[09:05] <Jet2k5> so with a reboot it will update the info in grub?
[09:05] <Jet2k5> or do I have to edit the file manualy?
[09:05] <Seveas> they've fixed some security bugs
[09:05] <Seveas> no, it'll be updated when you install the update
[09:05] <echelon> omg I love this
[09:05] <nakor> is it booting and not displaying anything or has it hung up altogether?
[09:05] <yahalom> i spent two days setting up xfce with ubuntu, translating the damn menu and they want windows
[09:06] <Dave2|Laptop> Is there any way for me to force X to run at 1024x768@75Hz? I know it can do it, but it's suddenly decided to only let me use 640x480@60Hz
[09:06] <Jet2k5> how do I check kernel version again?"
[09:06] <Taliesin`> (echelon): what do u love exactly? :)
[09:06] <Taliesin`> (Jet2k5): uname -a
[09:06] <Taliesin`> from a terminal
[09:06] <Seveas> Jet2k5, uname -r
[09:06] <Shuddertrix> uname -r
[09:06] <Jet2k5> -r
[09:06] <black_Nightmare> hey there
[09:06] <Jet2k5> sorry I used to use linux a lot, and left
[09:06] <Jet2k5> then came back when I heard about ubuntu :)
[09:06] <Jet2k5> thanks guys
[09:07] <lotusleaf> following the kernel update, do nvidia drivers need to be reinstalled again?
[09:07] <Seveas> :)
[09:07] <toxicfume> anyone?
[09:07] <Choubaka> :)
[09:07] <echelon> whoa, yahalom, sup?
[09:07] <black_Nightmare> was just wondering if it'll just as normal (as if nothing really happened) if I switched from a relisys 15" crt to then plugging in a 20" crt before booting up the pc again?
[09:07] <echelon> I am on my fresh copy of ubuntu now :)
[09:07] <vegi> switzer or germans here?
[09:08] <yahalom> echelon, losing my linux windows war
[09:08] <echelon> :(
[09:08] <Shuddertrix> Where does gdesklets-data put the sensors/display files?
[09:08] <yahalom> echelon, whats up with u?
[09:08] <yahalom> echelon, on ubuntu?
[09:08] <black_Nightmare> ......
[09:09] <nakor> can anyone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader? driver=(none) shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices for the card reader and i have the usb-storage and ide-scsi modules loaded.
[09:09] <mattlins> What is a good web development app for linux?
[09:09] <^thehatsrule^> bluefish mattlins
[09:09] <mattlins> thanks
[09:09] <^thehatsrule^> :)
[09:09] <Shuddertrix> bluefish or your favorite text editor. ;)
[09:09] <echelon> yahalom yeah
[09:10] <echelon> yahalom, I got tiyul shnati mahar, But I can't stand just using ubuntu for the sake of using it :P
[09:10] <bhna> mattlins: quanta+
[09:10] <echelon> yahalom, Anyways, this is so fun, just to install stuff so quickly and easily
[09:10] <echelon> yahalom, you have any idea  how can i set the clock, and how can I cancel the auto update under xfce4?
[09:11] <Shuddertrix> If anyone was wondering about my question.. it's /usr/share/gdesklets/Sensors
[09:11] <yahalom> echelon, #xfce
[09:12] <yahalom> echelon, man what do u mean for the sake of installing it? once u get to know it, this is the real window to the world.
[09:12] <black_Nightmare> nevermind..I'll just hope the 20" doesn't get rash at me when I plug it to the pc
[09:12] <forsaker8k6> hi people...
[09:12] <forsaker8k6> i've got a semi-ot question? can i ask anyway?
[09:13] <mattlins> How do I add launchers to the applications menu?
[09:13] <nobile> ask all you want =)
[09:13] <Vytas> so no thoughts about the fonts?
[09:13] <echelon> yahalom, hehe...
[09:13] <yahalom> echelon, guys in my pc tech class said they gave up on linux cos of no games. so i setup winex and played half-life nicer than on windows. it's all about how much u want to put into it.
[09:13] <zazeem> anyone know how to uninstall steam from cedega?
[09:13] <forsaker8k6> how do i change the background color shown when the gnome-splash screen is on the screen?
[09:13] <echelon> yahalom, I never knew I can play stuff on linu, but Ill get to that later.
[09:13] <stuNNed> what is steam, zazeem?
[09:14] <echelon> yahalom, got any clue if I can run Jedi academy?
[09:14] <zazeem> steam counterstrike 1.6 thing
[09:14] <timmow> does cedega do half life 2 well?
[09:14] <zazeem> ya
[09:14] <stuNNed> oh that
[09:14] <zazeem> ?
[09:14] <forsaker8k6> i mean.. i can change my bg color while i am in gnome.. but at the moment gnome is starting i have the brown default bg... i do i get rid of it?
[09:15] <yahalom> echelon, timmow the graphics were not as good as on windows, but if u have a good nvidia card i think it would be better, it didnt crash as much as it did in windows. counter strike was is very nice.
[09:15] <zazeem> forsaken go to system , administration startup screen
[09:15] <caonex> I just installed ubuntu from a knoppix live cd; however, grub is not able to recognize the filesystem type, reiserfs, of the root partition. What can be done to repair this?
[09:15] <yahalom> echelon, check out linux games too. such as scorched3d is fun.
[09:16] <zazeem> <3 scorch
[09:16] <msieradzki> s3d rulez :)
[09:16] <yahalom> echelon, and native linux games are very fast
[09:16] <zazeem> any one know how to uninstall steam from cedega??
[09:16] <yahalom> BZflag
[09:16] <echelon> yahalom, got any link for some nice linux games? And I got GF2MX which quite sucks :\
[09:16] <msieradzki> search for uninst*
[09:16] <zazeem> wha?
[09:16] <forsaker8k6> tnz zazeem but i didn't mean gdm bg
[09:16] <msieradzki> s3d is nice
[09:16] <eruin> I like one aspect about kde, in kopete> the ichat theme :)
[09:16] <yahalom> zazeem, just right click on and remove it no?
[09:17] <forsaker8k6> i wanted to change the bg shown on the background of the splash screen...
[09:17] <zazeem> u tried no get an error installing aain
[09:17] <yahalom> echelon, sudo apt-get install scorched3d
[09:17] <zazeem> dunno forsaken
[09:17] <eruin> anyone tried any of the breezy daily install cds_
[09:17] <zazeem> ima noob also
[09:17] <forsaker8k6> ok zazeem found... tnk you very much
[09:17] <forsaker8k6> you where right :D
[09:17] <yahalom> echelon, sudo apt-get install bzflag
[09:17] <forsaker8k6> were*
[09:17] <zazeem> :D
[09:17] <zazeem> wow my first help given in this chnnl
[09:17] <echelon> hmm, kill is the command to delete files?
[09:18] <zazeem> that was right..
[09:18] <toxicfume> can anyone help me?
[09:18] <yahalom> echelon, and the tux games are cute and happy. bring u up when ur miserable
[09:18] <zazeem> lol
[09:18] <yahalom> echelon, tuxracer, supertux and frozen-bubble
[09:18] <forsaker8k6> tnk you all people.. see you next problem :P
[09:18] <zazeem> how do i burn a cd in ubuntu
[09:18] <zazeem> ?
[09:18] <yahalom> lol
[09:18] <athlon> zazeem, sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[09:18] <echelon> yahalom, hehe
[09:18] <zazeem> gunna erase windows and reformat with ubuntu!! 80 gigs not 10 :D
[09:18] <yahalom> zazeem, apt-get install gnomebake or just use nautilus
[09:18] <echelon> yahalom, ill try them when ill come back from the trip
[09:19] <echelon> yahalom, how can I delet files in the terminal?
[09:19] <yahalom> zazeem, if u insert an empty disk nautilus cd burner should open it automatically
[09:19] <zazeem> ubuntu owns windows
[09:19] <zazeem> o
[09:19] <zazeem> ok
[09:19] <yahalom> echelon, sudo rm blah blah
[09:20] <we2by> zazeem, lmao. no way. lol
[09:20] <zazeem> ?
[09:20] <zazeem> no way what
[09:20] <zazeem> ?
[09:20] <we2by> zazeem ubuntu owns windows
[09:20] <zazeem> it does
[09:20] <zazeem> lol
[09:20] <zazeem> runs better
[09:20] <yahalom> zazeem, man i work with windows all day. i want to give up pcs untili come home to this relief.
[09:20] <zazeem> faster
[09:20] <echelon> thanks
[09:20] <zazeem> no viruses
[09:20] <zazeem> lol
[09:21] <echelon> yahalom, you got some pics or something of schoched3d?
[09:21] <zazeem> and i got my fav game to work faster than windows
[09:21] <yahalom> zazeem, if windows people send u viruses, and they do, u can pass them on to ur windows friends.
[09:21] <zazeem> rtcw enemy territory <3 just wish ventrilo worked..
[09:21] <we2by> zazeem, there are viruses
[09:21] <echelon> yeah, I also want Vent :(
[09:21] <echelon> vent pwnz :D
[09:21] <msieradzki> echelon: you don't need screenshots, this game rocks...
[09:21] <zazeem> i heard theres a way
[09:21] <yahalom> echelon, www.scorched3d.co.uk
[09:21] <echelon> yahalom, Thanks!
[09:21] <zazeem> to get vent
[09:21] <msieradzki> you have to check it out yourself
[09:21] <zazeem> with cedega somehow
[09:21] <zazeem> a freind did it
[09:22] <msieradzki> sudo apt-get install scor...
[09:22] <yahalom> zazeem, check out transgaming.com there's info there
[09:22] <xena> i m trying to install build essentials. but icant because it says
[09:22] <xena> build-essential:
[09:22] <msieradzki> scorched3d would *really* rock if it would have option of playing in real tim
[09:22] <xena>  Depends: g++ but not installed
[09:22] <msieradzki> e
[09:23] <echelon> zazeem, if you find anything, PM me, or send me a memo or something, im going to be away for 3 days
[09:23] <yahalom> only prob is that scorched3d in the repos is not the latest so u cant play online against most people, so i downloaded it from the site
[09:23] <zazeem> ok
[09:23] <Seveas> xena, you should apt-get it, not manually download the deb
[09:24] <echelon> yahalom, what kind of game (genere) is sc3d?
[09:24] <xena> Seveas, sudo apt-get install build-essential . i did like this
[09:24] <yahalom> echelon, well basically its like that silly little game where u have two tanks and u try to hit eachother
[09:24] <msieradzki> turn based worms
[09:24] <msieradzki> in 3d
[09:25] <zazeem> in nautilus cd creator how do i see how much space is used???
[09:25] <msieradzki> there was game in msdos
[09:25] <msieradzki> gorrillaz
[09:25] <msieradzki> example of basic
[09:25] <zazeem> ?
[09:25] <msieradzki> you shoot with bananas
[09:25] <yahalom> echelon, they made it 3d, and they gave choices of tanks, or aircraft, or whatever, and instead of just shells, u have crazy bombs, from atom bombs to kameekaze planes. its fun.
[09:25] <toresbe> yeah, that rocked
[09:25] <msieradzki> you must shoot to another gorilla
[09:25] <msieradzki> it;s like that in 3d
[09:25] <yahalom> echelon, msieradzki 's comment explains it better
[09:25] <Seveas> xena, which version of ubuntu do you use?
[09:26] <yahalom> msieradzki, lol
[09:26] <echelon> yahalom, lol
[09:26] <yahalom> msieradzki, and cakes, and muffins
[09:26] <echelon> yahalom, k ill try it when I come back
[09:26] <xena> Seveas, hoary
[09:26] <echelon> And if anyone got something about Ventrilo in Linux, i'd me more than happy to know.
[09:26] <Seveas> xena, do you have network repositories enabled?
[09:26] <xena> Seveas, i have added www.ubuntuguide.com #extra repositories all.
[09:26] <nova> any one here got lm-sensors running to show temps and all that good stuff
[09:27] <Seveas> xena, bad idea
[09:27] <Seveas> use only official repositories
[09:27] <qatsi> hey, im trying yo install wine with some apps with the Synaptic Mannager, and it says i cant install some of them...it says winetools:
[09:27] <qatsi>  Depends: xdialog  but it is not installable
[09:27] <qatsi>  Depends: gtk-smooth-themes  but it is not installable        what can i do to install this two packages ???
[09:27] <echelon> hmmmm it seems only debian got an older version of the game.
[09:27] <nova> im following this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780&highlight=sensors
[09:27] <mattlins> I installed java sdk successfully.  Now, I want to install the netbeans ide.  I get a message about netbeans not being able to load in graphical mode.  In fedora core 3 the solution was to donwload xorg's deprecated libraries.  Has anyone heard of this?  Is this the propeer solution for ubuntu?
[09:27] <nova> and am at this point
[09:27] <xena> Seveas, i ve tried with official then i ve added them.
[09:27] <toxicfume> hello? ubuntu wouldnt display on mylaptop..can anyone help?
[09:27] <nova>  Then, run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[09:27] <yahalom> echelon, debian based distros are about stability more. I'
[09:27] <Seveas> qatsi, i hope you install them from the official repositories..?
[09:27] <yahalom> probably get beaten for saying that
[09:27] <yahalom> give it a few secs
[09:28] <Seveas> xena, can you paste your sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:28] <qatsi> Seveas dont know, never installed themmm
[09:28] <yahalom> its very hard to say a 100% true comment when surrounded by geeks
[09:28] <echelon> yahalom, Well they get out the new ver or is it bound to stay old :P?
[09:28] <nova> dont forget us newbie linux hope to be soon geeks now :)
[09:28] <Seveas> Quest-Master,  can you paste your sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:29] <Seveas> oops
[09:29] <Seveas> qatsi, ,  can you paste your sources.list on ubuntu.pastebin.com please
[09:29] <Seveas> sorry Quest-Master i'll watch my <tab> better :)
[09:29] <yahalom> echelon, that u should ask someone who is involved with ubuntu. they should at some point. then again it could be on the next release of ubuntu. just download it from the site. its a deb package
[09:29] <no0tic> what file describes "Applications" menu?
[09:29] <qatsi> ok, let me see, im new to ubuntu, so ill be trying for a while
[09:29] <echelon> why not apt-get?
[09:30] <echelon> anyways, I really g2g, laters, and a lot of thanks
[09:30] <Seveas> no0tic, all .desktop files in /usr/share/applications and the like
[09:30] <toxicfume> hello? ubuntu wouldnt display on mylaptop..can anyone help?
[09:30] <zazeem> wtf try apt-get source
[09:30] <zazeem> works
[09:30] <xena> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/288581
[09:30] <zazeem> strange
[09:30] <no0tic> Seveas: thanks
[09:30] <Church_of_FoamY> how to use bugzilla?
[09:30] <zazeem> any free linux antivirus stuff???
[09:30] <zazeem> or adware remover?
[09:31] <yahalom> echelon, its not the newest one. and unless u have the newest version u cant play against many people.
[09:31] <Tritis> zazeem:  clamav, no adware on linux yet
[09:31] <yahalom> zazeem, tons
[09:31] <Seveas> xena, you'd better make that file look like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[09:31] <qatsi> how can i get sources.list ?
[09:31] <yahalom> zazeem, i use clamav. scans my pc every night at 12.
[09:31] <zazeem> virus protection??
[09:31] <yahalom> zazeem, in order to protect my windows buddies.
[09:31] <sig> how do I tell what char set I'm using?
[09:31] <kisain> anyone?
[09:31] <zazeem> how do i get
[09:31] <Seveas> qatsi, gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:31] <yahalom> zazeem, sudo apt-get install clamav
[09:31] <yahalom> zazeem, i think
[09:31] <msieradzki> gedit not nano? :D
[09:32] <zazeem> danke
[09:32] <xena> Seveas, i m looking there. ill return. thanks
[09:32] <yahalom> zazeem, or try sudo apt-cache search anti-virus
[09:32] <Seveas> msieradzki, gedit is with gui, even better for newbies :)
[09:32] <zazeem> clamav is the best one?
[09:33] <Seveas> zazeem, on linux you generally do not need antivirus and adware removers...
[09:33] <kisain> anyone know how to use bugzilla
[09:33] <Seveas> kisain, create an account log in and submit your report
[09:33] <nakor> Can someone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader? driver=(none) shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices for the card reader and i have the usb-storage and ide-scsi modules loaded. Query me if you can help
[09:33] <yahalom> zazeem, i think so
[09:33] <zazeem> :D
[09:33] <zazeem> thnx
[09:33] <yahalom> zazeem, most ppl will laugh at u for using one btw
[09:33] <kisain> @ www.bugzilla.com
[09:33] <nova> so lm temprature etc sensors
[09:33] <kisain> or is it diffrent
[09:33] <yahalom> zazeem, u really dont need one
[09:34] <Seveas> kisain, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[09:34] <nova> im stuck at  Then, run /etc/init.d/module-init-tools
[09:34] <nova>  in the how to guide
[09:34] <qatsi> ok, here is my sources.list http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/288585
[09:35] <kisain> thanx for the info
[09:35] <we2by> I  have a virus scanner installed
[09:35] <kisain> i coulden't figure it out
[09:35] <kisain> lol
[09:35] <zazeem> how do i see how much disk space i have left?
[09:35] <nakor> df
[09:35] <zazeem> ?
[09:35] <Seveas> zazeem, df -h /dev/hda
[09:35] <we2by> zazeem, df -h
[09:35] <Seveas> zazeem, or /dev/hdb (or whatever your drive is)
[09:36] <Seveas> qatsi, yike!
[09:36] <zazeem> 4 free :(
[09:36] <Seveas> qatsi, bad idea for a sources.list
[09:36] <zazeem> need to get rid of 80 g windows
[09:36] <J35U5> hey can anyone here help me? im trying to get vmware running
[09:36] <code1> hi all
[09:36] <Seveas> qatsi, please, in a terminal type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <kvidell> J35U5: what's up?
[09:36] <Seveas> qatsi, and make that file look like http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/38
[09:36] <qatsi> Seveas Sorry, im so noob at this distro...i was using gentoo before...well,i sill am...
[09:36] <qatsi> Seveas ok, i will
[09:36] <J35U5> ok i got it installed and im trying to compile it. this si wehaat i get....
[09:37] <ubuntufree> got no sound with totem player but with xine,xmms.... I'm using esound
[09:37] <J35U5> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[09:37] <J35U5> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[09:37] <J35U5> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[09:37] <eruin> I don't need to do anything other than "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdd image.iso" to burn the cdimage.ubuntu.com isos right?
[09:37] <kvidell> do you have the kernel headers package installed?
[09:37] <Seveas> J35U5, sudo atp-get-install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[09:37] <J35U5> kk
[09:37] <Seveas> apt-get install even...
[09:37] <kvidell> and also make sure that symlink is there
[09:38] <kvidell> go to /usr/src and make sure the "linux" symlink exists and is pointing at the source directory.
[09:38] <kvidell> (I've had it not be there a few times in my ubuntu explotations)
[09:38] <Dolciume> hi, i have a little problem, when i boot linux, its load Hoary Hedgehog  rather than KDE, what do that KDE load?? or it what wrong ??
[09:39] <anto9us> is there a friendly interface for grub?
[09:39] <Seveas> anto9us, grub is a friendly interface :)
[09:39] <J35U5> thanks guys that worked ^^
[09:39] <kvidell> as in the actual bootloader or a config gui?
[09:39] <kvidell> J35U5: yerp
[09:40] <Seveas> Dolciume, you're mixing up things
[09:40] <anto9us> Seveas: I mean to reconfigure my boot options without restarting
[09:40] <Dolciume> hmm kubuntu load
[09:40] <Seveas> Dolciume, you have to choose kde on the login screen from the sessions menu
[09:40] <eruin> does ubuntu-live  let you burn cds?
[09:40] <Seveas> anto9us, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:40] <mIRCrox> hi
[09:40] <Dolciume> than come Hoary Hedgehog and i can login withe my nick
[09:40] <ubuntufree> got no sound with totem player but with xine,xmms.... I'm using esound.... any ideas
[09:40] <Seveas> no friendlier interface available
[09:40] <kvidell> eruin: If you have more than one CDRom drive, I don't see why not.
[09:41] <eruin> kvidell: but if you only have one it's a no-go?
[09:41] <eruin> I'm in trouble then :)
[09:41] <kvidell> I don't think it lets you unmount and eject the CD wihle it's running
[09:41] <toxicfume> ubuntu wouldnt display on mylaptop..can anyone help?
[09:41] <anto9us> Seveas: thanks :)
[09:41] <kvidell> that would sort of be like remoing the ram from your computer mid-stream. It kind of loses it's.. brain.
[09:41] <ubuntufree> how can I move ext3 partitions ??
[09:41] <nakor> ubuntufree, use totem-xine?
[09:41] <eruin> anyone know what dependencies cdrecord has?
[09:42] <toxicfume> where do i go for help with ubuntu?
[09:42] <kvidell> eruin: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), debconf, makedev (>= 2.3.1-24)
[09:42] <mIRCrox> I use mirc with wine youhou
[09:42] <ubuntufree> nakor, tried it with both totem-xine and totem-gstreamer
[09:42] <qatsi> Seveas: now i can do the install...thanx a lot.....:) i will have to read some stuff about the synaptinc and the repositories, cuz i know nothing about them........but thanx a lot...
[09:42] <mIRCrox> I use mirc with wine youhou
[09:42] <kvidell> (according to apt-cache show cdrecord)
[09:42] <eruin> hmm, maybe I can get it running on my non-working breezy install cd :)
[09:43] <mIRCrox> ... mirc really sux
[09:43] <eruin> wonder where I left my hoary cds :/
[09:43] <Seveas> toxicfume, please be a bit more specific...
[09:44] <eruin> woot
[09:44] <eruin> I found a warty cd
[09:44] <eruin> :D
[09:44] <eruin> thatll have to do
[09:44] <R2D2_> ubuntufree, take a look at the configuration, maybe totem is usiing ALSA or some other interface to output the sound...
[09:44] <toxicfume> Seveas: well, when i boot into ubuntu, after all the bootup process, the screen just goes blank
[09:44] <Seveas> you see all the cryptic messages go by toxicfume ?
[09:44] <toxicfume> Seveas: yes
[09:45] <toxicfume> Seveas: one thing though
[09:45] <Seveas> toxicfume, did you try the livecd ?
[09:45] <xukun> I just installed gallery on my home pc, how do I access it now?
[09:45] <toxicfume> Seveas: in the beginning of the cryptic messages, it says that PNPBIOS failed..and that i have to bootup with the pnpbios=false parameter..which i tried..but still, the screen went blank
[09:45] <toxicfume> Seveas: no i haevn't
[09:46] <Seveas> toxicfume, please try that one to see if it happens with the livecd too
[09:46] <toxicfume> Seveas: i don't have the cd..downloading will take too long :s
[09:46] <echelon> hmm one last question.
[09:46] <Seveas> toxicfume, has the display worked at all?
[09:46] <yacoob_> F1 :(
[09:47] <Seveas> or is this since the beginning
[09:47] <echelon> HOw can I see the pictures from my digital camera?
[09:47] <toxicfume> Seveas: well i saw the cryptic messages go by..so i guess it has worked
[09:47] <echelon> I got Intel PocketPC or something like that, USB connection
[09:47] <toxicfume> Seveas: i just don't see X i guess
[09:47] <yacoob_> can one really install new ubuntu release from warty live cd?
[09:47] <Seveas> toxicfume, yeah, but have you ever seen X?
[09:47] <Seveas> (i mean: on that ubuntu install)
[09:47] <toxicfume> Seveas: since i have never installed a previous distro in the laptop before, no
[09:48] <toxicfume> never
[09:48] <echelon> anyone got a clue?
[09:48] <Seveas> toxicfume, are you on that laptop now?
[09:48] <kvidell> clue? command line user experience?
[09:48] <toxicfume> Seveas: it's right besides me, i can boot it up
[09:48] <Seveas> kvidell, nice one :)
[09:48] <Seveas> toxicfume, please do
[09:48] <kvidell> ;) I try.
[09:48] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay :)
[09:49] <Seveas> and when the screen goes blank, wait a minute and press <ctrl><alt><F1>
[09:49] <Seveas> and see if you get some errors related to X
[09:49] <toxicfume> Seveas: yeah i did try getting into toher terminals earleir..but i didn't know what to do then :P
[09:49] <toxicfume> okay, lets see
[09:49] <Dolciume> how can choose the session? (to kde)
[09:49] <Seveas> toxicfume, just login and type dmesg to see errors from the kernel ;)
[09:50] <othernoob> mmh, i just burned a cd and k3b gave me a message saying that the burner or the medium doesn't support 20x, so it's switching down to 16x. but it's a 52x24x52x cdrw and a 48x cd-r ?
[09:50] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay
[09:50] <Seveas> Dolciume, in the login screen hit the sessions button and choose KDE
[09:50] <Dolciume> but i cant in kde
[09:51] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay, i typed dmesg
[09:51] <chombee> anyone seen this before - booted laptop today and music won't play, rythmbox plays a popping sound, beep-media-player just freezes, other sounds are fine. Reboot doesn't fix it
[09:51] <Seveas> any X related errors in there toxicfume ?
[09:51] <Dolciume> i have only the terminal
[09:51] <toxicfume> Seveas: Not that i can see...unless it's above what is shown
[09:52] <Seveas> toxicfume, dmesg | less
[09:52] <Seveas> then you can see more with <pgup> and <pgdn>
[09:52] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay
[09:52] <_hp_> what is a good editor for php/html development?
[09:53] <apsk121> Hey all
[09:53] <nakor> can anyone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader? driver=(none) shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices for the card reader and i have the usb-storage and ide-scsi modules loaded.
[09:53] <xena> Seveas, same error.  Depends: g++-3.3 fakat kurulmayacak
[09:53] <xena>  Depends: gcc-3.3 fakat kurulmayacak.. "fakat kurulmayacak" means will not be installed in turkish
[09:54] <toxicfume> Seveas: i don't think i see any X related errors(i do see other related to ACPI though, but we can leave that for later)
[09:54] <Dolciume> can i change the session withe the terminal?
[09:54] <Seveas> xena, type apt-get update before you do apt-get install build-essential
[09:54] <schurig> _hp_: quanta plus
[09:55] <Seveas> toxicfume, that is weird, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure the correct resolution for your laptop is selected
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> _hp_: a plain text editor :-|
[09:55] <Seveas> _hp_, vim :)
[09:55] <Fator_Dee> _hp_: with hiliting of course, so gedit
[09:55] <kisain> does anyone remeber the kernel update from today and what it was called?
[09:55] <xena> Seveas, i updated already
[09:55] <_hp_> kisain: linux-image-2.6.10-5-386
[09:56] <Seveas> and -686
[09:56] <Seveas> and -k7
[09:56] <Seveas> etc...
[09:56] <kisain> how the hell do i uninstall it? it's causing my cpu not to idel(at least i think it is)
[09:56] <Seveas> xena, can you paste your sources.list again and the output of apt-get update
[09:58] <toxicfume> Seveas: my laptop is a 15.4" widescreen, whatresolution shoudl it be?
[09:58] <kisain> anyone know how to uninstall this >linux-image-2.6.10-5-386<
[09:59] <Seveas> toxicfume, no clue, check your manual ;)
[09:59] <Dolciume> how can change the session to kde without kde?? :(
[09:59] <Seveas> kisain, you can't :)
[09:59] <Seveas> Dolciume, have you installed kde??
[09:59] <kisain> damnit
[09:59] <Dolciume> yes
[09:59] <Shuddertrix> kisain, if you did, you would hose your system, because that's the kernel.
[09:59] <Shuddertrix> you can upgrade it, though
[09:59] <kisain> my cpu stopped idleing after i updated it
[09:59] <Seveas> kisain, so you have kde...
[10:00] <kisain> i have kubuntu-desktop
[10:00] <kisain> but it can
[10:00] <kisain> but it can't access my raid
[10:00] <slept> kisain,  if it's not the kernel you are using you can apt-get remove it
[10:00] <kisain> well i don't think it's kubuntu
[10:00] <Dolciume> sevas?
[10:01] <Seveas> slept, you can do it even id you are using it
[10:01] <kisain> it happend after i updated it to the new one
[10:01] <Seveas> rebooting would be hard though if you have no other kernels installed :)
[10:01] <echelon> I got Intel PocketPC or something like that, USB connection, can anyone help me operate it under linux?
[10:01] <kisain> lol
[10:01] <simple> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release.gpg...... errors? Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary Release ? ign? why can't i download from or update repositories
[10:01] <Seveas> Dolciume, so you have kde...
[10:01] <kisain> i just wish i could figure out exactly whats causeing this thrashing in my cpu
[10:02] <Seveas> simple, try to use archive.ubuntu.com instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com or simply wait a while
[10:02] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay, i completed the setup..what do i do now?reboot?
[10:02] <martin> hi guys, does everyone know an WMA to MP3-Converter? Lame doesn't work with WMA!
[10:02] <simple> wait because they are down?
[10:02] <simple> (:
[10:02] <simple> oops..
[10:02] <Seveas> toxicfume, try it
[10:03] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay
[10:03] <Dolciume> i can only open the console
[10:03] <Seveas> or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:03] <Seveas> Dolciume, what makes the GUI fail?
[10:03] <xena> Seveas, im updating again. i've a slow connection. i 'll paste to pastebin soon.
[10:03] <martin>  hi guys, does everyone know an WMA to MP3-Converter? Lame doesn't work with WMA
[10:03] <toxicfume> Seveas: how do i reboot? i type reboot and it says i need to be su[er user to do that
[10:03] <Dolciume> i dont now
[10:04] <toxicfume> Seveas: and when i type su, it asks for the password which i don't know.. cause i never set it :S
[10:04] <martin> does everyone know an WMA to MP3-Converter? Lame doesn't work with WMA!
[10:04] <simple> yes they're down? no they arne't?
[10:04] <Seveas> toxicfume, sudo reboot
[10:04] <Seveas> and youe your own password
[10:04] <toxicfume> Seveas: okay
[10:04] <martin> please guys
[10:04] <Seveas> toxicfume, wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:05] <psychonate> WMA to mp3 is a very bad idea unless you absolutely have to.
[10:05] <calamari> hi
[10:05] <chombee> Problem - booted laptop and music players were broken (normal sound is fine). Rhythmbox play clicky sounds. Beep-media-player just freezes on play. I changed bmp's output plugin to esd and now it works, but how can I fix rhythmbo? And why did this happen? Did something change the settings of all my media players, or did something change my sound system?
[10:05] <martin> ok, then WMA to OGG or sthing. just NO wma
[10:05] <martin> do you know a program that works psychonate?
[10:06] <psychonate> WMA to vorbis is just as bad
[10:06] <martin> ok, tell me a program plse
[10:06] <psychonate> Converting any lossy codec to another lossy codec is generally not good
[10:06] <Seveas> wma actually has good quality
[10:06] <martin> i've got a lot of music in WMA from my old windows-pc and amaroK can't change TAGS of WMA
[10:06] <psychonate> It's still a lossy codec though, is it not?
[10:06] <martin> yes
[10:07] <Hoxzer^^> we should all rape martin
[10:07] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, language...
[10:07] <psychonate> I don't want AIDS.
[10:07] <martin> it's just because i can't change the stupid TAGS
[10:07] <psychonate> ;)
[10:07] <Hoxzer^^> raping is good :)
[10:07] <psychonate> martin, Do you own the CDs?
[10:07] <Hoxzer^^> specially if men is raping men
[10:07] <martin> yes
[10:07] <psychonate> Why not rip them again into something like Vorbis.
[10:07] <toxicfume> Seveas: nah, still blank
[10:07] <Seveas> Hoxzer^^, please keep the code of conduct in mind...
[10:07] <martin> because it's a lot of work
[10:08] <echelon> Hmmm, can I set the computer to startup at some time?
[10:08] <Seveas> toxicfume, file a bug with your video card & monitor specs then, i cannot help you any further dince i'm not a dev. Sorry
[10:08] <psychonate> You think that converting all those WMAs will be better?
[10:08] <Seveas> echelon, depends on your BIOS
[10:08] <simple> are you sure? okay really, yes i agree, yup, awesome k thakns...
[10:08] <toxicfume> Seveas: np then, thanks a lot:)
[10:08] <Seveas> echelon, it's not something OS related
[10:08] <martin> yes! because of the TAGS
[10:08] <Dolciume> Seveas, at loaded linux, it come suddenly Hoary Hedgehog Linux tty1, than stand there login: (my name) pw... and i'm in console
[10:08] <martin> for amaroK-Player
[10:08] <slept> martin, you can use xmms diskwriter plugin if xmms is capable of wma. I never had any wma files.
[10:08] <Seveas> Dolciume, try <ctrl><alt><f7> there
[10:09] <Oly> hi i tried to dist-upgrade but i am getting an error about twm not being configured ?
[10:09] <Oly> whats the command to confuigure it ?
[10:09] <Dolciume> ok thank you :)
[10:09] <martin> amaroK can't change tags of WMA-Files. i'ts just because of the tags
[10:09] <_hp_> i just installed enlightenment and it does not show up in sessions thing
[10:09] <psychonate> So, you want to convert all your WMAs because of the tags
[10:10] <martin> yes
[10:10] <martin> and i want to play them with amarok
[10:10] <martin> otherwise i don't see the names of the tracks
[10:10] <slept> martin, you will lose quality
[10:10] <Seveas> Oly, dpkg --configure twm
[10:10] <martin> yes, it doesnt matter
[10:10] <martin> or tell me how to change tags with amaroK
[10:10] <martin> that'll be another solution
[10:11] <psychonate> My vote is for ripping all the CDs again heh
[10:11] <Oly> yeah i tried that except i dont know where the packages are stored
[10:11] <Oly> nope that was not it
[10:11] <Oly> it comes up with an error i new it did not work for some reason
[10:12] <Oly> update-alternatives: slave link name /usr/share/man/man1/x-window-manager.1.gz duplicated
[10:12] <martin> but it's just because of the tags, do you know a "tool" or "plugin" for changing tags with amaroK?
[10:12] <Oly> got that error, not sure what needs to be done to fix that
[10:12] <psychonate> for WMA files?
[10:12] <Oly> not encountered it before
[10:12] <martin> yes
[10:12] <ubuntufree> how can I move ext3 partitions ??
[10:12] <fazer> Hi there, I installed Ubuntu on another bigger hard drive, but Ubuntu seems to slow down hell of a lot when I have more than 3 apps open.
[10:12] <fazer> This didn't happen with my older hard drive
[10:12] <fazer> any thoughts?
[10:13] <psychonate> WMA is popular solely among WIndows users in WIndows. I'm not sure how many people would write tag editors for WMA in *nix.
[10:13] <ubuntu> hey is ubuntu RPM
[10:13] <mjr> ubuntufree, (g)parted
[10:13] <Seveas> ubuntu is deb
[10:13] <ubuntu> is slax RPM
[10:13] <psychonate> There might be some, but they could be hard to find.
[10:13] <Seveas> Oly, read the manpage or update-alternatives
[10:13] <mjr> slackware is tgz
[10:13] <fazer> crimsun: Hey, what's up?
[10:13] <martin> ok... then i have to delete all the WMA-Songs
[10:13] <Seveas> Oly, thight might give some clue about what goes wrong
[10:13] <ubuntu> whats a live cd that is RPM
[10:13] <ubuntu> and i was talking about slax
[10:13] <martin> because i don't want to use another player
[10:13] <fazer> ubuntu: why do you want RPM?
[10:13] <athlon> suse maybe
[10:13] <martin> thanks for the help!
[10:13] <Seveas> Oly, i think the error is that the configure script does an update-alternatives --install
[10:14] <fazer> ubuntu: use 'alien' in ubuntu
[10:14] <Oly> okay did not realise update-alternatives was a command :p
[10:14] <Seveas> with an erroneous argument
[10:14] <slept> martin , did you google
[10:14] <ubuntu> cuase i want to use limewire on it'
[10:14] <fazer> ubuntu: I am using Limewire fine in Ubuntu
[10:14] <psychonate> I'm just telling it how it is.
[10:14] <athlon> ubuntu, slax is based on slackware so afaik it uses tgz
[10:14] <fazer> ubuntu: use alien to conver it to a deb
[10:14] <ubuntufree> mjr, gparted 0.0.8 does not support moving ext3 partitions:  http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[10:14] <ubuntu> i thought it was just for linux RPM
[10:14] <ubuntu> limewire
[10:15] <ubuntu> whatever ill try it anyways
[10:15] <psychonate> X is my enemy.
[10:15] <ubuntu> can you install programs while runing the live cd
[10:15] <_kevin> is there a program or a way to break a large mp3 into tracks, witht eh cue file... like b4 i used to rip some of my albums as backup and i used EAC a program ot create a large mp3 file with a cue file tell me the track info... and i used a program mp3directcut to breka into tracks
[10:16] <Goonie> can anyone tell me why dual monitor stopped working when I upgraded from warty to hoary? I'm using a laptop and plugging a monitor in the vga connector
[10:16] <_kevin> but now on linux is there another program to break those mp3s into tracks with cue file
[10:16] <mjr> ubuntufree, oh right
[10:16] <Seveas> Goonie, exactly because of that
[10:16] <ubuntu> can you install programs while runing the live cd
[10:16] <psychonate> I've had this problem twice where I idle for a while, and when I come back, X is very very slow, and my CPU usage is very very high.
[10:16] <Seveas> monitors in vga connectors are not properly detectable
[10:16] <slept> ubuntu, yes you can chroot into your system
[10:16] <Seveas> monitors in vga connectors of laptops are not properly detectable
[10:17] <Goonie> Seveas~ but it worked fine on warty....
[10:17] <ubuntu> but i dont have any OS installed on the hd is that still ok
[10:17] <Seveas> ubuntu, yes, but remember that it is installed into memory
[10:17] <ubuntu> oh alright
[10:17] <ubuntu> cool
[10:17] <ubuntu> so when i restart it will be gone right
[10:17] <psychonate> I don't know why it happens, but I end up restarting X.
[10:17] <Seveas> Goonie, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get it working again on hoary
[10:17] <Seveas> ubuntu, yes
[10:17] <ubuntu> alright thanks
[10:18] <Seveas> psychonate, do you know which program takes up so much cpu cycles??
[10:18] <slept> it might be update-de
[10:18] <xena> Seveas,
[10:18] <xena> Seveas,  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/288632
[10:18] <slept> b
[10:18] <psychonate> I had checked, but I don't really remember. I think in top X was listed as the program with the highest CPU usage.
[10:19] <psychonate> I'll make an effort to check next time.
[10:19] <psychonate> methinks it will happen again eventually
[10:19] <kisain> your having a cpu problem too?
[10:19] <nova> brb reboot
[10:19] <psychonate> not in general
[10:19] <psychonate> just in this situation
[10:20] <Seveas> xena, can you try: apt-get install g++ and see what that does
[10:20] <nova> brb reboot
[10:20] <kisain> whats yours doin?
[10:20] <Hawaii-Boy> anyone from DK??
[10:20] <kisain> i can't seem to get mine to idel
[10:20] <psychonate> dunno bout that
[10:21] <nikolaus> someone can hep me with glade# (Mono...) under ubuntu, always get this message: libglade-critical **: glade_xml_build_interface: assertion `wid != NULL' failed
[10:21] <shido6> ok
[10:21] <xena> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/288635
[10:21] <shido6> I just installed a 686 smp image
[10:22] <shido6> did they fix the dma issue?
[10:22] <Seveas> xena, next step: apt-get install gcc
[10:22] <kisain> whats getty?
[10:22] <kisain> it's in my sysmon
[10:23] <kisain> running six times
[10:23] <Seveas> kisain, the program that runs your console
[10:23] <Seveas> and since there are 6 consoles, it runs 6 times
[10:23] <xena> Seveas, gcc is already the newest version.
[10:23] <Seveas> does it say that or do you know that xena ?
[10:23] <kisain> oh
[10:24] <kisain> i'm tryin to find what could be causing the cpu problems
[10:24] <kisain> can you give me some ideas where to look?
[10:24] <xena> Seveas, it says
[10:24] <Seveas> xena, dpkg -l *gcc*
[10:24] <Seveas> and paste it on the pastebin please
[10:25] <kisain> i wonder if the computer is looking for something and it can't find it
[10:25] <Seveas> kisain, what does top give you?
[10:26] <kisain> alot of stuff that appears to be needed
[10:26] <xena> Seveas, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/288640
[10:26] <kisain> the only thing is the cpu values seem to be higher
[10:26] <linuxboy> does the ubuntu cd player upload CDDB info i type in?
[10:26] <rickard> is there an update for gaim for ubuntu somewhere?
[10:27] <kisain> will paste to pastebin
[10:28] <kisain> http://pastebin.com/288643
[10:28] <Seveas> xena, where did you get gcc from? breezy?
[10:28] <Seveas> or even worse, are you running breezy??
[10:28] <Dolciume> seveas, it not go :(
[10:29] <xena> seveas whatis breezy?
[10:29] <Seveas> next ubuntu version
[10:29] <Seveas> gcc 3.3.6 is not in the lates stable
[10:29] <MonkeyBonkey> yo
[10:29] <MonkeyBonkey> i gots a ?
[10:29] <Seveas> and somehow you have it installed
[10:29] <Seveas> from where>>
[10:29] <Seveas> ??
[10:30] <MonkeyBonkey> hey i just installed ubuntu and i got Icewm on a cd now how would i go installing it
[10:30] <MonkeyBonkey> what whould i type in the command promp
[10:30] <xena> how can i learn the name of distro ? i have taken cd from my friend Seveas ..
[10:30] <[ADULT_SWIM] > any idea whats causing the cpu values to be higher than normal?
[10:30] <Seveas> xena, cat /etc/issue
[10:30] <xena> Seveas, lol:)
[10:30] <MonkeyBonkey>  hey i just installed ubuntu and i got Icewm on a cd now how would i go installing it
[10:30] <xena> firat@ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/issue
[10:30] <xena> Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" Development Branch \n \l
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey> like what would i type
[10:31] <Seveas> xena, yeah, that's crap
[10:31] <Seveas> xena, reinstall your system and use a hoary cd
[10:31] <Seveas> read the topic of this channel :)
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey>  hey i just installed ubuntu and i got Icewm on a cd now how would i go installing it
[10:31] <sublime_> este canal es espaol, soy nuevo
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey>  hey i just installed ubuntu and i got Icewm on a cd now how would i go installing it
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey>  hey i just installed ubuntu and i got Icewm on a cd now how would i go installing it
[10:31] <Seveas> sublime_, #ubuntu-es
[10:31] <[ADULT_SWIM] > stop spamming
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey> sorry
[10:31] <sublime_> thanks
[10:31] <xena> Seveas, :) thanks for help. i m new to lnux. it is all my friend fault. sorry again
[10:31] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ^_^
[10:31] <Fator_Dee> MonkeyBonkey: install from the repository
[10:31] <MonkeyBonkey> wtf
[10:32] <MonkeyBonkey> whats that
[10:32] <LinuxJones> MonkeyBonkey, have a look at www.ubuntuguide.org see the section about adding universe then, type sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xfce4
[10:32] <firat_> thanks xena friends
[10:32] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, stop repeating, read the manual for synaptic and use that
[10:32] <sublime_> join #ubuntu-es
[10:32] <MonkeyBonkey> i have no internet on it
[10:32] <MonkeyBonkey> the computer i have ubuntu on i have no internet
[10:32] <LinuxJones> MonkeyBonkey, what files are listed on the cd you have ?
[10:32] <toxicfume> how do i get ubuntu working on my laptop? my laptop's native screens resolution is 1280x800, which is not displayed in x's configuration
[10:32] <Dolciume> ....
[10:32] <Dolciume> Starting deferred execution sheduler...
[10:32] <Dolciume> Starting periodic command sheduler...
[10:32] <Dolciume> Checking battery state....
[10:32] <Dolciume> Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" Linux tty1
[10:32] <Dolciume> Linux Login:
[10:33] <Dolciume> Password:
[10:33] <Dolciume> (Name)@linux:"$
[10:33] <Dolciume> that come : /
[10:33] <yacoob_> *sigh*
[10:33] <Seveas> Dolciume, DO NOT paste here
[10:33] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ditto
[10:33] <littleworm> how do i install fonts?
[10:33] <LinuxJones> omg fellas you can't jsut paste stuff in here :)
[10:33] <MonkeyBonkey> i just have icewm.tar
[10:33] <Dolciume> ok
[10:33] <nakor> can anyone please help me with my usb cf/sm reader? driver=(none) shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices for the card reader and i have the usb-storage and ide-scsi modules loaded.
[10:33] <littleworm> how do i install fonts?
[10:33] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, throw that out and dowload the deb files from archive.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <LinuxJones> MonkeyBonkey, is it possible to connect your computer to the Internet ?
[10:33] <MonkeyBonkey> u mean the rpms,,, No i cant conenct to internet
[10:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > wow starts hitting spammers with fly swatter whack whack
[10:34] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, no rpms, deb files
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> ya
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> i have thouse
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> they in the tar
[10:34] <Seveas> ah
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> its instal .sh
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> now how would i run that
[10:34] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, no, that's not a debfile *sigh*
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> sudo (directory) instal.sh
[10:34] <othernoob> littleworm: use synaptic and search for font
[10:34] <MonkeyBonkey> why do i need deb file
[10:34] <[ADULT_SWIM] > sudo ./<filename>.sh
[10:34] <Fator_Dee> debfile is a .deb, not .rpm, not .sh, but .deb
[10:34] <toxicfume> any devs here? I need help with running ubuntu on my laptop, i'mhaving a plethora of problems
[10:35] <MonkeyBonkey> but why do i need a deb file
[10:35] <MonkeyBonkey> why can i just do the .sh install
[10:35] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, because that's the ubuntu way of installing things
[10:35] <othernoob> Fator_Dee: are you absolutely sure ;)
[10:35] <xena> Seveas, sorry and thanks again. im going to install hoary now. bye
[10:35] <Fator_Dee> othernoob: omg, no that you asked, I think I'm not!
[10:35] <Fator_Dee> *now
[10:35] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, if you want you can simply open a terminal and type: sudo sh install.sh
[10:35] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, but that's not the standard way
[10:35] <othernoob> OoO
[10:35] <MonkeyBonkey> whats the dif
[10:35] <[ADULT_SWIM] > so noone has any ide whats making my cpu values higher than normal?
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> spyware
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> ?
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> lol
[10:36] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, debfiles integrate nicely into your system
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> oh
[10:36] <Seveas> install.sh things don't
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> http://www.icewm.org/icewm-1_2_13.php
[10:36] <MonkeyBonkey> which one
[10:36] <Seveas> debfiles also make upgrading and dependencies easiet
[10:36] <[ADULT_SWIM] > not likely to my knowledge there isen't much spyware for linux
[10:36] <Seveas> easier
[10:36] <slept> MonkeyBonkey, you can but the deb package management is nice you can remove /  update better
[10:36] <LinuxJones> [ADULT_SWIM] , have you recently installed ubuntu-desktop or any new services ?
[10:36] <keffo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30510
[10:36] <osh> Is there a java in som ubuntu repository or is the only way to get it from java.sun.com?
[10:36] <keffo> anyone tired this
[10:36] <keffo> ?
[10:37] <MonkeyBonkey> which one http://www.icewm.org/icewm-1_2_13.php
[10:37] <Fator_Dee> [ADULT_SWIM] : do you use frequency scaling on your cpu? (or what was that thing called)
[10:37] <othernoob> osh in synaptic-development (non free
[10:37] <[ADULT_SWIM] > i have no idea what that is
[10:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > or if i am using it
[10:38] <osh> there's a "non-free" repository to add?
[10:38] <Fator_Dee> [ADULT_SWIM] : it changes your Mhz according to the need of processes
[10:38] <MonkeyBonkey> hmmmm
[10:38] <[ADULT_SWIM] > ok if i do have that i haveno idea how do i tell?
[10:38] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, can you hold on for a second please
[10:38] <slept> osh , restricted
[10:38] <Fator_Dee> [ADULT_SWIM] : so I thought that it might show your processes taking up the cpu more than before, because it has scaled it down
[10:39] <Fator_Dee> [ADULT_SWIM] : sorry, but I don't know *that* :-\
[10:39] <slept> osh , sory didn't read the lines you typed before
[10:39] <diana_> hello everyone
[10:39] <[ADULT_SWIM] > damnit
[10:39] <[ADULT_SWIM] >  have a cheapy intell celeron
[10:39] <MonkeyBonkey> hehe
[10:39] <diana_> hello
[10:39] <MonkeyBonkey> AMD 64 is the way to go
[10:39] <[ADULT_SWIM] > it's a coppermine
[10:40] <[ADULT_SWIM] > does that matter?
[10:40] <diana_> hello amonkey
[10:40] <ubuntufree> I'm searching a two panel graphical file manager. Any suggestions ?
[10:40] <Fator_Dee> [ADULT_SWIM] : I really don't know
[10:40] <amonkey> what command should i use if i want to copy an entire drive to another one? cp * -r didn't seem to get everything. and is there a way to make sure it copied right?
[10:40] <MonkeyBonkey> hi
[10:40] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, are you on x86 or amd64?
[10:40] <Latis-WorX> is there any easy way to install my laserprinter? (HP IIP Plus)
[10:40] <MonkeyBonkey> x86 on my crappy comuter
[10:40] <diana_> anyone wanna talk
[10:40] <MonkeyBonkey> new computer im getting is amd64
[10:40] <torture> sure
[10:40] <torture> talk
[10:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] >  um dating services down the hall to the left
[10:41] <diana_> just got ubuntu on my pc......any got tips
[10:41] <psychonate> hmm, yasis won't load
[10:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] > lol
[10:41] <[ADULT_SWIM] > j/k
[10:41] <osh> slept: So which is the one to get? java2-common?
[10:41] <psychonate> This displeases me :(
[10:41] <amonkey> diana_: stick with it, it's worth it after you get it working the way you want it too
[10:41] <Seveas> osh: for java: download the .bin file from java.sun.com, apt-get install java-package, chmod +x [the .bin file] , make-jpkg [the bin file] , dpkg -i [the generated .deb file]
[10:41] <psychonate> If anyone is bored and using xchat, try this script: http://soul.f2o.org/soul/irc/yasis-2.9a.pl.
[10:42] <diana_> amonkey: yep ges so
[10:42] <nova> psyonate whats it do?
[10:42] <osh> Seveas: ...and they say that ubuntu is Linux for human beings. ;-)
[10:42] <psychonate> It's a system/xmms script for xchat
[10:42] <Mez> to reconfigure xorg it's sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:42] <Mez> right?
[10:42] <torture> other dists are for aliens?
[10:42] <Seveas> osh, yeah but java isn't ;)
[10:42] <osh> Seveas: Thanks for the hint. I'll do what you said. =)
[10:42] <Seveas> Mez, yes
[10:42] <ubuntufree> I'm searching a two panel graphical file manager. Any suggestions ?
[10:42] <Mez> good,.
[10:42] <psychonate> I used to use an older version on another distro, but I can't get this version to work on Ubuntu
[10:42] <Mez> I thought so
[10:42] <psychonate> I want to know if it's just me
[10:42] <diana_> is there anu good games on the marked???
[10:43] <Mez> I was just wondering why there were 5 replies to a topic on the forums saying someone had to reinstall to reconfigure Xorg
[10:43] <diana_> any
[10:43] <torture> hi diana
[10:43] <uniq> ubuntufree: gentoo (the filemanager) is very configureable and advanced.. krusader rocks for kde.. that's my $0.2
[10:43] <diana_> torture_:hi
[10:43] <slept> diana_, kobodeluxe
[10:43] <ubuntufree> uniq: no kde please
[10:43] <torture> diana, wazzup ..ubuntu works alright for you ?
[10:44] <amonkey> what command should i use to copy and check one folder (recursivly) to another?
[10:44] <diana_> torture: just got it saturday
[10:44] <Seveas> amonkey, what do you mean with check?
[10:44] <nova> um k now how to fire off the script heh
[10:44] <amonkey> Seveas: it's not really neccesary, but i'd like to know it copied alright
[10:44] <psychonate> nova, Window>Plugins>Load
[10:44] <ubuntufree> how can I move ext3 partition ?
[10:44] <MonkeyBonkey> how would i go about changing the default window manager to icewm instead of Gnome?
[10:45] <slept> amonkey, you can du -a > filename and compare the both lists with diff
[10:45] <torture> diana: cool .. about the same here....using kde or gnome ?
[10:45] <diana_> kde i think.....
[10:45] <Seveas> amonkey, cp -r old_folder new_folder
[10:45] <MonkeyBonkey> what
[10:45] <MonkeyBonkey> explain seveas
[10:45] <ubuntufree> uniq: thanks gentoo looks cool, got to inspect it
[10:45] <amonkey> Seveas: i tried that, it didn't seem to get everything
[10:45] <nova> yeh loaded
[10:45] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, hi, download http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/ice.tar.gz
[10:45] <nova> but not seeing how to trigger the script
[10:46] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, it contains the icewm .deb files
[10:46] <MonkeyBonkey> k
[10:46] <MonkeyBonkey> now how do i install it
[10:46] <psychonate> nova, join #test and type /yasis
[10:46] <psychonate> nova, /yasis should do it
[10:46] <Seveas> put that on your ubuntu machine, extract the archive and run dpkg -i *.deb
[10:46] <LinuxJones> amonkey, then you don't have permissions to some files/directories
[10:46] <MonkeyBonkey> u mean in comand prompt ype dpkg-i*.deb
[10:46] <_kevin> if i download a file fromt eh web and it's tar.gz how would i install it on ubuntu
[10:46] <nova> no go
[10:46] <nova> hmm
[10:46] <diana_> turture: no sorry my mistake GNOME
[10:47] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, yes, bith with spaces
[10:47] <Seveas> dpkg -i *.deb
[10:47] <psychonate> nova, that makes two of us
[10:47] <Fator_Dee> _kevin: there should be a readme file in it
[10:47] <MonkeyBonkey> now how would i run Icewm
[10:47] <MonkeyBonkey> ?
[10:47] <psychonate> nova, it's not listed in my plugins window, so I'm assuming it didn't load correctly
[10:47] <Seveas> MonkeyBonkey, in the login screen you can then choose icewm
[10:47] <MonkeyBonkey> k
[10:47] <MonkeyBonkey> Thanks
[10:47] <nova> yeh same hmm
[10:47] <LinuxJones> _kevin, is it an application ?
[10:47] <psychonate> nova, I enjoy the error message xchat gives me...
[10:47] <nova> maybe needs to be loaded at xchat start up
[10:47] <psychonate> which is none at all
[10:47] <dj> i am l33t r0x0r$ man
[10:48] <psychonate> (when trying to load the plugin that is)
[10:48] <_kevin> poc-0.4.1.tar.gz
[10:48] <_kevin> it's a program
[10:48] <MonkeyBonkey> i just had Vector linux installed but the file manager was all f-ed up and it wouldent run .deb files
[10:48] <LinuxJones> poc what is that ?
[10:48] <torture> monkeybonkey: why vector linux... ?
[10:48] <Fator_Dee> _kevin: extract the file and there should be a readme file with instructions
[10:48] <MonkeyBonkey> its really fast
[10:48] <amonkey> LinuxJones: i should have permissions, it's a storage drive. would a chown root * -r, and chmod 777 * -r work?
[10:48] <_kevin> a bunch of mp3 tools to breaka  mp3 file into tracks with a cue file
[10:48] <_kevin> there is
[10:48] <_kevin> I'm reading it
[10:48] <Fator_Dee> _kevin: ok
[10:48] <MonkeyBonkey> because the comp im running ubuntu on right now is like crappy
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> its only 466mhz with 128ram
[10:49] <torture> monkeybonkey: ubuntu/kubuntu is fast enough , no ?
[10:49] <_kevin> All the tools in the poc package can be compiled using GNU make.
[10:49] <_kevin> The tools have been tested under MacOSX, Cygwin and Linux.
[10:49] <diana_> how about swg..... any versions for linux?????
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> Kubuntu is like a hog cuz it has KD
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> KDE
[10:49] <psychonate> MonkeyBonkey, Vector Linux is based on Slackware AFAIK. Why would it use deb files?
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> lol
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> i dunno
[10:49] <LinuxJones> amonkey, or you can use sudo cp -R /dir/  /newdir/
[10:49] <MonkeyBonkey> For what Linux Jones?
[10:50] <Gabriel> Does Mac-On-Linux requires a prior installation of Mac OS or I can install it within Linux after?
[10:50] <MonkeyBonkey> ehmm
[10:50] <diana_> any swg versions for linux / ubuntu????
[10:51] <slept> what is swg
[10:51] <MonkeyBonkey> :(|)
[10:51] <yacoob_> 0 packages upgraded, 623 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
[10:51] <MonkeyBonkey> is swg, swg
[10:51] <diana_> star wars galaxies
[10:51] <yacoob_> looks like I made it through :)
[10:51] <MonkeyBonkey> hahah
[10:51] <Shuddertrix> Gabriel, try asking #MOL ?
[10:51] <yacoob_> (from knoppix live CD, because hoary live cd was lacking gcc 8)
[10:51] <Gabriel> Shuddertrix, ok thanks
[10:51] <MonkeyBonkey> have any of u tryed DSL, Damn Small Linux
[10:51] <psychonate> diana_, I believe you can play that under Cedega.
[10:51] <LinuxJones> _kevin, it would be tar xfzv filename.tar.gz to unzip it...usually there is a readme in one of the directories to tell you how to compile.
[10:51] <MonkeyBonkey> Its linux os and its like 50 MB
[10:52] <psychonate> yes
[10:52] <_kevin> can i send yout he readme file?
[10:52] <MonkeyBonkey> how is it
[10:52] <diana_> psychomate_:what is cedega????
[10:52] <psychonate> it's...minimal heh
[10:52] <psychonate> nice, but minimal
[10:52] <MonkeyBonkey> cedega runs windows games on linux
[10:52] <LinuxJones> _kevin, I don't do dcc :)
[10:52] <Funraiser> Seveas, just to let u know: to get firestater to start directly on startup one has to do edit the file etc/sudoers and add the following at the end: username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/firestarter
[10:52] <_kevin> ok
[10:52] <Seveas> Funraiser, i know that
[10:52] <rj_> anyone know what username/password cups uses to login to http://localhost:631 to add a printer
[10:52] <psychonate> diana_, /join #cedega or visit www.transgaming.com
[10:52] <_kevin> All the tools in the poc package can be compiled using GNU make.
[10:52] <rj_> root's user/pass does not work.
[10:53] <Seveas> but it's unneccessary to start firestarter
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> _kevin: if there's no instructions on how to actually compile it, it's usually done bu "./configure && make && make install"
[10:53] <_kevin> what does that mean
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> *bu=by
[10:53] <diana_> psychomate_:how do i get it
[10:53] <_kevin> it says i can complie using GNU make
[10:53] <MonkeyBonkey> BRB
[10:53] <psychonate> diana_, well, it's commercial; you pay for it. However, there are ways to get it/make it for free.
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> _kevin: and that line is to be executed on the directory in which you extracted the files
[10:53] <psychonate> diana_, one of these ways is illegal, and I will not mention it lol
[10:54] <LinuxJones> _kevin, that is a mp3/streaming server
[10:54] <_kevin> yes
[10:54] <Funraiser> Seveas, err...that's what i asked u this morning and u said that was not necessary to launch firestarter, that it was running...(?)
[10:54] <psychonate> diana_, the other way- there are scripts that can fetch the source and compile it for you
[10:54] <foodcoman> whois buj
[10:54] <_kevin> but i only want the mp3/cue file splitting tools into
[10:54] <_kevin> in it*
[10:54] <psychonate> diana_, it's easiest just to pay if you can
[10:54] <LinuxJones> _kevin, ahh you have 1 large mp3 you want to split up ?
[10:54] <_kevin> yes
[10:55] <_kevin> i havea  cue file
[10:55] <_kevin> with the tracks info
[10:55] <diana_> okay great thanks
[10:55] <LinuxJones> _kevin, there are very good sound editing tools like Audacity that you can use to accomplish the same thing without having to compile anything
[10:55] <Mez> argh
[10:55] <psychonate> There is mp3split
[10:55] <MonkeyBonkey> back
[10:55] <ubuntufree> I do uninstall packages with synaptic but there is less space on the disk than before. Can one explain this ?
[10:55] <psychonate> dunno about using it with cues
[10:56] <diana_> psychomate_: any other tips on how to use ubuntu
[10:56] <Funraiser> Seveas, thanks for your help
[10:56] <Mez> I'm on windows and keep liek - goin to the top of the screen to try and load up a root terminal and edit my files
[10:56] <_kevin> can audacity use cue files to split
[10:56] <_kevin> Cue file is just a text file with information for where to cut the tracks
[10:56] <MonkeyBonkey> whats better, Lilo or Grub boot loader
[10:56] <Dave2|Laptop> I prefer grub
[10:56] <MonkeyBonkey> mmmmm Grub
[10:57] <MonkeyBonkey> *monkey
[10:57] <psychonate> _kevin, I just checked mp3splt. It can use a cue file for splitting.
[10:57] <MonkeyBonkey> how u do that purple writeing thing
[10:57] <_kevin> ohh where can i get this tool
[10:57] <MonkeyBonkey> how do u do this * LarstiQ vastly prefers grub
[10:58] <LinuxJones> _kevin, psychonate has the answer for you :)
[10:58] <psychonate> _kevin, 'sudo apt-get install mp3splt'
[10:58] <MonkeyBonkey> quote "er"
[10:58] <MonkeyBonkey> damn
[10:58] <LarstiQ> MonkeyBonkey: /me vastly prefers grub
[10:58] <MonkeyBonkey> ah
[10:58] <MonkeyBonkey> sorry
[10:58] <_kevin> sudo apt-get install mp3split ?
[10:58] <_kevin> were u missing the i
[10:58] <psychonate> no no
[10:58] <psychonate> no "i"
[10:58] <_kevin> ohh ok
[10:58] <_kevin> thanks
[10:58] <psychonate> np, gl
[10:59] <othernoob> why does it want to install libsensors3 if i want to remove ksensors, lm-sensors, sensord?
[10:59] <psychonate> _kevin, you want the -c option it seems
[11:00] <_kevin> psychonate once it finishes set up what si the command i use to access the program
[11:00] <keffo> I saw at ubuntuforums, something like.. "how to get some more out of yer harddrives.." anyone done that? could it be "dangerous" ;P
[11:00] <psychonate> mp3splt
[11:00] <_kevin> ahh
[11:00] <keffo> there shuld be an avisplit
[11:00] <keffo> ;P
[11:00] <psychonate> keffo, I believe there is
[11:00] <psychonate> keffo, part of the transcode package AFAIK
[11:01] <psychonate> keffo, affirmative, it is part of the transcode package
[11:01] <keffo> yes, i know.. but I fuxed up whole transcode thingie.. and got mad, and throwed it into teh sea
[11:01] <keffo> ;P
[11:01] <psychonate> How did you mess it up?
[11:01] <psychonate> Use the Marillat repository
[11:01] <keffo> oh
[11:01] <keffo> you may give em to me? ;P
[11:02] <Latis-WorX> is there any good cd-burning software which I can burn my mp3s to regular audiocds?
[11:02] <stuNNed> can still use the Marilla repo with Hoary as debian unstable changes?
[11:02] <_kevin> psychonate where is the option to select which directory to put the split files in
[11:02] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, WTH ?  where have you been :) ?
[11:02] <slept> Latis-WorX, mp3burn
[11:02] <psychonate> keffo, add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[11:02] <Latis-WorX> slept, ok, thx
[11:02] <keffo> tank you
[11:02] <_kevin> there is gnome-baker
[11:02] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: study :)
[11:03] <Latis-WorX> slept, is there any which can be apt-getted? :)
[11:03] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, and you awade blenderworld ?
[11:03] <Latis-WorX> cba to install a source atm :P
[11:03] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: s/blender/internet/
[11:03] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, btw...nice to see you
[11:03] <psychonate> _kevin, -d
[11:03] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, eh ?
[11:03] <keffo> psychonate, one queston, will there be instability etc.. if i do apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade with that source added?
[11:03] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: I avoided the entire internet
[11:03] <psychonate> _kevin, ALL the options are in 'man mp3splt'
[11:03] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: nice to see you too, how are you nowadays?
[11:03] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, I should too :P
[11:03] <slept> Latis-WorX, it's in universe
[11:04] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, still trying to get a decent job :-\
[11:04] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, and now admin at Elsyiun
[11:04] <Latis-WorX> slept, its a commandline app :S :)
[11:04] <_kevin> ohh alright thanks
[11:04] <Latis-WorX> I want a graphical one :)
[11:04] <keffo> ztonzy, you mean Elysium?
[11:04] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, still mod at blender.org though...
[11:04] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: ah, grats
[11:04] <ztonzy> keffo, no
[11:04] <keffo> ok :p
[11:04] <ztonzy> keffo, www.elysiun.com
[11:04] <IFRFLYR> Anyone know how to set helper apps in Thunderbird; I set attached pdfs to open with something silly and want to fix it.
[11:05] <keffo> oh, thought you talked about something else ;P
[11:05] <pvanhoof> WOW
[11:05] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, hehe thanks...was some months ago
[11:05] <ztonzy> keffo, it is very close yes
[11:05] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: I've been out since september or so?
[11:05] <psychonate> keffo, I don't believe so. I've not have problems with it so far, but I've not used 'apt-get update' or 'apt-get dist-upgrade.' I'm sort of new to Ubuntu, and I do most things through synaptic.
[11:05] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: the academic year is nearly finished, I'll be back :)
[11:05] <pvanhoof> just fixed my x-window-system after an upgrade on breezy
[11:05] <pvanhoof> DUDE
[11:05] <ztonzy> keffo, soon to be blenderartists.org (or *artist.org
[11:06] <keffo> ill have a watch
[11:06] <pvanhoof> you guys got the complete font system wrong
[11:06] <psychonate> keffo, many people use that repository though
[11:06] <keffo> or look* you might say
[11:06] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, scchweeet, wee need a expert in linux
[11:06] <keffo> okok
[11:06] <othernoob> why does kynaptic want to install libsensors3 if i want to remove ksensors, lm-sensors, sensord?
[11:06] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: oh?
[11:07] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, I got chroot for building linux, bot another guy does it too...but it seems my isn't *that* needed
[11:08] <ztonzy> bot=but*
[11:09] <psychonate> keffo, btw, you can also use avidemux to split AVIs
[11:09] <psychonate> though I *usually* prefer avisplit
[11:10] <psychonate> _kevin, did mp3splt work alright?
[11:10] <k31th> Raskall: dude hows your site going
[11:12] <amonkey> what's teh command to format /dev/hdc1 as ext3?
[11:12] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, so when is studies ended...in couple of weeks ? and btw... 2.37 is about to get released
[11:12] <mjr> mke2fs -j /dev/hdc1
[11:12] <amonkey> mjr: thanks
[11:15] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, would you recommend any good linux book? "Linux in a nutshell" ?
[11:16] <_kevin> psychonate I'm still reading up on it
[11:16] <_kevin> but it should work
[11:16] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: oef
[11:17] <ztonzy> oef ?
[11:17] <psychonate> _kevin, 'mp3splt -c <cuefile> -d <outputdir> <mp3file>'
[11:17] <psychonate> something like that maybe
[11:17] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: the books I've read are either more specific (kernel work), or have nothing to do with operating ("Rebel Code")
[11:17] <_kevin> ye
[11:17] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: So I don't know of a good book I'm afraid
[11:17] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, okej
[11:17] <_kevin> thanks man
[11:17] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: I do recommend reading Rebel Code anyway :)
[11:18] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, uhmm maybe just playing around would be good
[11:18] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, what is it about ?
[11:18] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, btw...do you want a chrootbuild of blender ?
[11:19] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0738203335/103-2158833-8870221?v=glance
[11:19] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: I have exams in 3 weeks, so not that long anymore
[11:19] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, a new project is launched ;)  by ton http://orange.blender.org
[11:19] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, cool, so you will be back and help out ?
[11:20] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: yup
[11:20] <ztonzy> nice
[11:20] <ztonzy> pretty quiet here of all 535 in this channel ;)
[11:20] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: orange looks cool!
[11:20] <psychonate> keffo, did you get a chance to try 'avisplit'?
[11:20] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, indeed it is
[11:21] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: perhaps we're talking a lot ;)
[11:21] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, lmao
[11:21] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: oeh oeh, Bassam as animation director!
[11:21] <Pupeno> How do I change my default console editor (from nano) to vim ?
[11:22] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, of course...and andy as designer
[11:22] <ztonzy> so, and Ton, they make a core team
[11:22] <shido6> hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc fixed my problem
[11:22] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: great :)
[11:22] <shido6> I can use my mouse
[11:22] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, and we the rest just sit here :|
[11:23] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: why? get moving!
[11:23] <abarbaccia> hey all - im having trouble getting my sis chipset workign with ubuntu with hardware video accel
[11:23] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, heh
[11:23] <abarbaccia> its a sis 650 chipset (video)
[11:25] <_jordan> Nali0th.
[11:25] <DefHandz> Nali0th.
[11:26] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, told ton you are coming back soon ;) comment by him: "cool!"
[11:26] <_kevin> psychonate It worked like a charm
[11:27] <_kevin> psychonate Thanks alot man
[11:27] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: hah, it'll be some more weeks, don't want to fumble my finals ;)
[11:27] <LarstiQ> speaking of which, time to go to bed
[11:27] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, I meantied 3-4 weeks
[11:27] <DefHandz> I am trying to run a program with Cedega in console, but i get the error "x11drv: Can't open display:" when I type cedega SteamInstall.exe
[11:27] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, yes me too
[11:27] <ztonzy> mentioned*
[11:28] <ztonzy> LarstiQ, good night and see you soon again
[11:28] <DefHandz> Anyone know what is wrong?
[11:29] <robertj> Def: try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[11:29] <_kevin> for those looking to install WINE on ubuntu here is a website with information --> http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[11:29] <LarstiQ> ztonzy: you too
[11:29] <DefHandz> Ok :-p
[11:30] <DefHandz> x11drv: Can't open display: :0.0
[11:30] <DefHandz> Hm.
[11:30] <DefHandz> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[11:30] <DefHandz> Xlib: No protocol specified
[11:30] <DefHandz> x11drv: Can't open display: :0.0
[11:30] <DefHandz> O_O
[11:30] <DefHandz> I heard..DONT.
[11:30] <mez> hmm *shrugs*
[11:30] <tritium> _kevin, if you use winetools from winehq, be sure to also use wine from winehq
[11:30] <mez> y not?
[11:31] <tritium> (rather than wine from universe)
[11:31] <DefHandz> Developer thing
[11:31] <mez> yeah, but i know what I'm doing (apart form the odd error or two whcih have stumped me and eventually came to realise it was human error
[11:31] <mez> plus
[11:31] <DefHandz> robertj what should I do?
[11:31] <mez> I've always got the CD toreinstall if i need
[11:32] <robertj> Def: are you running it as the same user?
[11:32] <mez> yeah kevin, I can give you instructions on how to add the proper wine deb repositry if you want
[11:32] <cut0ff> has anyone managed mount partitions on hoary??
[11:32] <mez> cut0ff,  - you cant run hoary without it mounting partitions
[11:32] <DefHandz> robertj: Shouldnt I be on root?
[11:32] <DefHandz> Or not?
[11:32] <robertj> Def: not normally
[11:33] <DefHandz> Oh ok
[11:33] <DefHandz> :-p
[11:33] <robertj> open a new terminal and type xcalc
[11:33] <DefHandz> THat might be the prob.
[11:33] <robertj> althought it should still work
[11:33] <DefHandz> xcalc works
[11:33] <robertj> ok, now try whatever program you were trying to run
[11:33] <DefHandz> Sweet
[11:33] <DefHandz> Works
[11:33] <DefHandz> :-p
[11:33] <robertj> and try sudo xcalc
[11:33] <DefHandz> One second.
[11:34] <Shuddertrix> would it be a good idea to compile -k7 versus -386 for me?
[11:34] <shido6> now to et vmware working
[11:34] <Shuddertrix> apparently i'm running -386 and i'm wondering if -k7 will be better
[11:35] <DefHandz> Ah
[11:35] <DefHandz> Deb.
[11:35] <robertj> hrmm
[11:35] <robertj> does sudo xcalc work?
[11:35] <Shuddertrix> or will it even make a difference?
[11:36] <robertj> did you install the game as that current user?
[11:36] <DefHandz> Yes
[11:36] <DefHandz> what?
[11:36] <DefHandz> yes, as my user.
[11:36] <DefHandz> Not as root.
[11:36] <DefHandz> sudo xcalc worked.
[11:37] <robertj> so wahts the error it gives again?
[11:37] <DefHandz> Moving all local fonts to /home/jordan/.transgaming_global/Fonts and removing lo                                            cal Fonts directory
[11:37] <DefHandz> For language 'en' several language ids were found:
[11:37] <DefHandz> en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409; en_IE - 18                                            09; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_ - 2409; en_BZ - 2809; en_TT - 2C09;
[11:37] <DefHandz> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
[11:38] <DefHandz> your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US
[11:38] <DefHandz> /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine: cannot find 'SteamInstall.exe'
[11:38] <DefHandz> Hm..
[11:38] <mez> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:38] <mez> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:38] <mez> o_o
[11:38] <LinuxJones> DefHandz, www.pastebin.ca
[11:38] <mez> that error came up half way through an upgrade was downloading packages
[11:39] <DefHandz> X_X pastebin, forgot.
[11:39] <LinuxJones> :D
[11:39] <verden01> Hi, can i convert my reiserfs to etx3 and keep my data like you can convert fat32 to ntfs?
[11:40] <verden01> ext
[11:40] <LinuxJones> verden01, no, how much data do you have on the filesystem ?
[11:40] <robertj> are you running Wine SteamInstall.exe?
[11:40] <DefHandz> No..
[11:40] <verden01> not much
[11:41] <DefHandz> I have cedega
[11:41] <DefHandz> "wine steaminstall.exe" doesnt work.
[11:41] <DefHandz> Cannot find command
[11:41] <LinuxJones> verden01, maybe you could backup to cd or move (temporarily to another partition till you get the fs converted.
[11:41] <verden01> its just since ubuntu upgraded the kernel at atartup my system is looking for an ext3 file system
[11:41] <_kevin> u need wine tools to install
[11:41] <DefHandz> Hm..
[11:41] <DefHandz> Where can I get them?
[11:42] <LinuxJones> verden01, you lsot reiser FS support after a kernel upgrade ?
[11:42] <LinuxJones> lost*
[11:42] <_kevin> http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[11:42] <_kevin> scroll down and u shall see
[11:42] <verden01> i guess
[11:43] <_kevin> wow my first time helpin someone on this chan
[11:43] <verden01> the kernel upgrade was the normal apt-get upgrade
[11:43] <shido6> ok
[11:43] <LinuxJones> verden01, yikes, can you do lsmod in a terminal and see if the reiser module is loaded ?
[11:43] <TestDummy> My other computer is being a butthead with Ubuntu >_<
[11:43] <shido6> how do I set the display set DISPLAY=:0.0 doesnt work
[11:43] <shido6> (vmware:11210): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[11:43] <shido6> is what I get
[11:43] <_kevin> i tried to burn a cd with graveman and it doesn't work
[11:43] <pvanhoof> verden01, no
[11:44] <pvanhoof> it's not possible
[11:44] <mez> TestDummy, sounds fun
[11:44] <pvanhoof> you'll eed a sparedisk
[11:44] <frereron> hey. my sound is not workking. I have done everything in the guide already. (intel i915) any ideas?
[11:44] <TestDummy> Well..
[11:44] <verden01> ok
[11:44] <mez> frereron,  you're using alsa?
[11:44] <TestDummy> I install it, it installs fine, gets to first boot, says "Starting Ubuntu" and freezes
[11:44] <verden01> reiserfs              240368  1
[11:44] <verden01> ext3                  133264  0
[11:44] <frereron> mez, I,ve tried alsa, oss and esd
[11:44] <verden01> LinuxJones, that is what lsmod saus
[11:45] <mez> well
[11:45] <mez> er, this may sound stupid
[11:45] <mez> but have you tried turning the volume up in  the mixer?
[11:45] <mez> cause
[11:45] <mez> my sound didnt work
[11:45] <verden01> pvanhoof, no??
[11:45] <mez> and i went through and tried everythign
[11:45] <mez> reinstlaled
[11:45] <mez> still didnt work
[11:45] <LinuxJones> verden01, can you paste the output of "mount" to www.pastebin.ca and post the link here ?
[11:45] <mez> realised gnome had set it to the lowest setting to start with
[11:45] <frereron> mez, lol. Well my alsamixer is empty.
[11:46] <black_Nightmare> let me guess: does ubuntu support 64bit processors? yes
[11:46] <black_Nightmare> or is my Q&A wrong?
[11:46] <black_Nightmare> :p
[11:46] <TestDummy> With the AMD64 ISO I'd guess :|
[11:46] <black_Nightmare> hm ty
[11:46] <mez> frereron,  have you checked dmesg for any output regarding your sound card?
[11:47] <verden01> LinuxJones, paste the output of mount?
[11:47] <black_Nightmare> dumb question but was it video-in and/or video-out that isn't quite supported on linux yet?
[11:47] <black_Nightmare> ati cards that is
[11:47] <verden01> LinuxJones, ok i know what you mean
[11:47] <LinuxJones> verden01, yes but not here in irc paste it to www.pastebin.ca and post the link it gives you here in irc
[11:47] <Wanted> hi
[11:48] <LinuxJones> Wanted, hiya
[11:48] <Dolciume> hi, i need help for that > http://dolciume.do.ohost.de/text.html
[11:48] <TestDummy> Er..
[11:48] <Wanted> LinuxJones hi newbe here
[11:48] <TestDummy> Anybody have any idea why my computer locks up on boot? :P
[11:48] <phillambrechts> why does evo mail put a line thru my messages when I try to delete them
[11:48] <LinuxJones> Wanted, welcome aboard :D
[11:48] <Wanted> LinuxJones thanx
[11:49] <LinuxJones> TestDummy, a hardware problem like borked memory stick ?
[11:49] <Wanted> LinuxJones i have a simple question I think
[11:49] <Lord^DS> hi all
[11:49] <LinuxJones> Wanted, ok shoot
[11:49] <mez> phillambrechts, it's the way "IMAP" works... there should be an option somewhere to "expunge" your mail box which'll get them deleted properly
[11:49] <TestDummy> I dunno, memory worked fine last I checked it
[11:49] <mez> having a line through it is like - semi-deleted... sort of like a strash cam
[11:49] <TestDummy> When I boot into Recovery Mode, it starts to probe for non-existant drives
[11:50] <DefHandz> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[11:50] <DefHandz> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:50] <DefHandz> I added the repositores from the Wine site, but sudo apt-get build-dep wine gives me..
[11:50] <DefHandz> That.
[11:50] <Dolciume> can me somebody help, please  http://dolciume.do.ohost.de/text.html
[11:50] <LinuxJones> TestDummy, were you moving any cards around in your system or anything. Like have you computer case open doing anything ?
[11:50] <phillambrechts> mez: I am using POP, would that still have the same result?
[11:50] <Pupeno> What should I do to get a video to play when xine reports this error: "A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: wmvdmod.dll" ?
[11:50] <TestDummy> LinuxJones: Nope, it's bascially been the same way for a while.
[11:50] <Wanted> LinuxJones i have a machine with WinXp and want to install Ubuntu on a other parttion, does Ubuntu make an boot menu for borh OS ?
[11:50] <TestDummy> Only thing new is the hard drive
[11:50] <mez> I dont use evo - but... it's similar to that - so thats probably just the way evo works
[11:51] <TestDummy> Wanted: Should install Grub for you last I checked, if everything is partitioned right.
[11:51] <LinuxJones> Wanted, yeah it does
[11:51] <phillambrechts> What would I have to change so that my messages go to trash?
[11:51] <Lord^DS> I have a small problem, USB drive is mounted but no rights to write on it, how can i arrange that I allways have stander rights for writing on it?
[11:51] <mez> DefHands... what is line 37 of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:51] <DefHandz> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt
[11:51] <mez> yeah
[11:51] <phillambrechts> It seems as though they were moved to the trash, but they still remain in my inbox, crossed out.
[11:52] <Dolciume> need help please for this problem by booting  http://dolciume.do.ohost.de/text.html
[11:52] <DefHandz> well..?
[11:52] <DefHandz> Should I comment it out?
[11:52] <saber_> Where package do people use now for dvd movie backup?
[11:52] <saber_> Where/What
[11:52] <mez> should read something like
[11:52] <Wanted> TestDummy Grub.... what is that ?
[11:52] <mez> wait lemme load up mine and I'll copy and paste my lines
[11:52] <frereron> mez, found it... Intel HiDef Audio Ctrler
[11:52] <feux> can someone help me with my mysql daemon plz?
[11:52] <DefHandz> ok
[11:52] <ElBarono> breezy is still not usable?
[11:52] <feux> it doesn't work anymore, and i dunno y
[11:53] <saber_> elbarono: won't be for a while :)
[11:53] <Dolciume> cant somebody help me :(
[11:53] <ElBarono> heh
[11:53] <LinuxJones> ElBarono, no
[11:53] <mez> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[11:53] <ElBarono> I just want the new firefox
[11:53] <DefHandz> Ah
[11:53] <DefHandz> I had to add hoary universe
[11:53] <DefHandz> Or not
[11:53] <DefHandz> O_o
[11:53] <feux> could someone query me who can help me solve my mysql problem? :(( plz
[11:53] <mez> ElBarono,  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[11:53] <frereron> shouldn.t, DefHandz
[11:53] <Pupeno> how do I install win32 codecs on ubuntu ?
[11:53] <frereron> mez, found it...  Didnt work.
[11:54] <mez> ?? DefHandz
[11:54] <saber_> elbarono: Install it yourself w/o using the package management system
[11:54] <Blissex> feux: and we are sorry, but all of our telepathic and clairvoyant customer advisors are busy on other lines.
[11:54] <mez> or use backports ;)
[11:54] <mez> I have latest firefox through backports
[11:54] <DefHandz> ?
[11:54] <DefHandz> Huh?
[11:55] <verden01> LinuxJones, i pasted it to the pastebin and uploaded it
[11:55] <Lord^DS> can anyone help for changing rights on drives?
[11:55] <DefHandz> E: Malformed line 37 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[11:55] <DefHandz> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:55] <DefHandz> THat's what happens.
[11:55] <nalioth> i love txt configuration files
[11:55] <LinuxJones> verden01, ok what is the pastebin.ca link that it spit out to you ?
[11:55] <Blissex> Lord^DS: consider reading ttp://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 first...
[11:55] <mez> and it reads deb url didt
[11:55] <DefHandz> O_o
[11:55] <tahorg> Blissex: you forgot the sorcerer
[11:55] <DefHandz> mez, are you talking to me?
[11:55] <nalioth> DefHandz: did you get a fresh copy from the ubuntulinux wiki?
[11:55] <tahorg> Blissex: he's available
[11:55] <DefHandz> yes :)
[11:55] <Lord^DS> ok thx Blissex
[11:56] <DefHandz> Cedega installed
[11:56] <mez> Defhandz, for Wine - it should read  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[11:56] <mez> not
[11:56] <DefHandz> But now I cant run SteamInstall.exe
[11:56] <mez>  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[11:56] <DefHandz> Hm..
[11:56] <Blissex> Lord^DS: and then ask a better phrased question...
[11:56] <DefHandz> Still doesnt work mez.
[11:56] <DefHandz> X_X
[11:56] <mez> are you sure?
[11:56] <DefHandz> Yes.
[11:56] <Wanted> LinuxJones hmmm do u know if AMD64 version gain any performance ?
[11:56] <verden01> LinuxJones, 12463
[11:56] <mez> send me a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:56] <Blissex> tahorg: the sorcerer may be available, but he tends to turn n00bs into flower vases. :-)
[11:57] <Blissex> Wanted: you try it, and dont ask specific people...
[11:57] <Lord^DS> Blissex, maybe your ,native languace is English, for me English is the 4th languace, so sorry if I make any faults
[11:57] <Blissex> Lord^DS: it is not quite the language, it is that you did not ask a detailed question.
[11:57] <verden01> LinuxJones, brb
[11:58] <Lord^DS> a few lines above it i did aks a detailled question but didn't get any answer so i tryed a bit more simple
[11:58] <Lord^DS> I have a USB drive mounted , but I can not write to it because I do'nt have rights
[11:58] <Dolciume> cant me help somebody ??? http://dolciume.do.ohost.de/text.html this problem i cant boot to KDE
[11:58] <Blissex> Wanted: also, for _some_ things 64 bit mode is way faster than 32 bit mode. And AMD 64 bit chips are quite fast even in 32 bit mode.
[11:58] <LinuxJones> verden01, it looks like it's ok
[11:59] <Lord^DS> I would like to have set it so that i can allways write to it
[11:59] <Shuddertrix> stupid me, i mounted my 3gb fat32 drive to /.. doesn't seem to hurt anything, though :P
[11:59] <Blissex> Lord^DS: OK, ask again the full question. Someone might want to answer sooner or later. Dont repeat more often than 5-10 minutes.
[11:59] <frereron> mez, sorry, I guess that I lied. There is no reference to my sound card in dmesg.
[11:59] <Wanted> Blissex ok....i know that
[11:59] <DefHandz> mez, your PM.
[11:59] <DefHandz> Nalioth, whenever I try to install in Cedega it doesnt do anything
[11:59] <Blissex> Lord^DS: what kind of drive? What kind of filesystem?
[11:59] <forsaker8k6> hi all
[11:59] <Lord^DS> Lacie USB HD and it's under NTSF
[11:59] <psychonate> DefHandz, What do you mean it doesn't do anything?
[11:59] <Blissex> Dolciume: try the 'startkde' command
[11:59] <LinuxJones> Wanted, it should but some stuff isn't yet available in 64 bit
[12:00] <DefHandz> Ok, now it says that SteamInstall.exe ISNT on my desktop!
[12:00] <DefHandz> Er
[12:00] <nalioth_> and i thought windoze was bad


[06:30] <shiznix> not sure i'm in the right channel for this, but i started digging today into why KDE applications don't show up in the dash 'Recently used' sections
[06:33] <shiznix> it seems zeitgeist-fts doesn't index any KDE applications when launched from the dash
[06:33] <shiznix> this is for Saucy btw
[07:42] <shiznix> ok it's because zeitgeist will only operate on *.desktop files if they reside as /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[07:44] <shiznix> not (using konsole as an example) /usr/share/applications/kde4/konsole.desktop


[15:13] <seven-eleven> how can you do snapshots with multipass?
[16:41] <seven-eleven> why does multipass start qemu-system-x86-64 with format=raw although the supplied image is obviously qcow2? `8 /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -name guest=exemplary-needlefish,debug-threads=on -S -object secret,id=masterKey0,format=raw,fil.....`
[16:51] <seven-eleven> this is the source of all problems https://github.com/CanonicalLtd/multipass/blob/8b98a769462d08949a526008c5a8a9863c1e3a6b/src/platform/backends/libvirt/libvirt_virtual_machine.cpp#L156
[16:51] <seven-eleven> hardcoded libvirt xml config ...