[12:09] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:09] <voicu> and how could i find what partitions i have on it?
[12:09] <schiste> mwarf ok ^^
[12:09] <bazhang> voicu: mount in terminal
[12:09] <ardchoille> schiste: Check out voicu's question. De javu?
[12:09] <schiste> yeah
[12:09] <schiste> Dj vu indeed
[12:10] <schiste> !mount
[12:10] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[12:10] <schiste> yeah
[12:10] <schiste> good bot good bot
[12:10] <schiste> but you could give the commands!
[12:11] <holyguyver> yeah when I saw voicu 's question I giggled :p
[12:11] <ardchoille> hehe
[12:11] <voicu> bazhang: i know, but what is the device and how i mount different drives on it?
[12:12] <voicu> *do i
[12:12] <ardchoille> voicu: Do you know what file systemis on it?
[12:12] <voicu> well either fat32 or ntfs... i'll try them both
[12:12] <bazhang> voicu: the commant 'mnt' should do it iirc
[12:12] <bazhang> command, even
[12:12] <holyguyver> LoL
[12:12] <ardchoille> let's hope it's not HPFS/NTFS
[12:12] <voicu> mnt?
[12:13] <holyguyver> LoL LoL
[12:13] <voicu> i'm going to mount it readonly to be sure
[12:13] <bazhang> short for mount, I believe
[12:13] <voicu> XP doesn't recognise it, that's why i'm trying to mount it manually
[12:13] <voicu> what device is the usb?
[12:13] <holyguyver> well xp recognizes mine so :p
[12:13] <voicu> i tried /dev/bus/usb and it says it's not a block device
[12:13] <bazhang> voicu: you want a command for XP?
[12:14] <bazhang> does XP have a shell?
[12:14] <ardchoille> voicu: try /dev/sda1
[12:14] <schiste> bazhang: nope
[12:14] <holyguyver> LoL man I am gertting deja vu :-p
[12:14] <jeri> ubotu thx alot! that really help!
[12:14] <ardchoille> holyguyver: me too
[12:14] <holyguyver> !thanks
[12:14] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[12:14] <bazhang> haha
[12:14] <jeri> ?!?
[12:14] <voicu> xp can't handle something unless it works out of the box :P
[12:15] <bazhang> hehe
[12:15] <bazhang> vista, not so much
[12:15] <holyguyver> voicu is this external harddrive by any chance a simpledrive? :P
[12:16] <se7en^Of^9> vista doesn't handle anything in or out of the box
[12:16] <ardchoille> lol
[12:16] <schiste> troll
[12:16] <bazhang> hahahaha
[12:16] <mulander> se7en^Of^9: I disagree, vista handles malware out of the box :D
[12:16] <bazhang> I had to use Vista yesterday--shiver--
[12:16] <mulander> btw hi all
[12:16] <ardchoille> se7en^Of^9: Not true, Windows handles viruses, trojans, worms, etc quite well.
[12:16] <bazhang> Vista is malware..no kidding.
[12:16] <schiste> I'm using it nearly everyday :)
[12:16] <schiste> nope it's not
[12:17] <schiste> borring yes
[12:17] <schiste> annoying too
[12:17] <bazhang> !gunga din
[12:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gunga din - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:17] <schiste> but not that bad in the end
[12:17] <holyguyver> seven of nine, aren't you from startreck?
[12:17] <voicu> holyguyver: it's an external harddrive that can be connected on usb, lan or a tv plug (for slideshows or something)
[12:17] <bazhang> as compared to cholera?
[12:17] <ardchoille> bazhang: ??? This isn't #wikipedia, lol
[12:17] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: use to be ...
[12:17] <schiste> wikipedia sucks!
[12:17] <voicu> when i put connect it to usb and turn it on the light comes up but nothing else happens
[12:18] <bazhang> ardchoille: sorry! can I at least do the bot command for bug#1?
[12:18] <ardchoille> ok
[12:18] <mosiac> when i upgrade to 7.04 do i need to update my nvidia driver?
[12:18] <holyguyver> well then seven of nine you are one hot borg :-p
[12:18] <se7en^Of^9> :)
[12:18] <Jesus_saves> i've realized that if you appreciate the beauty of situation then you are automatically rational
[12:19] <ardchoille> mosiac: If you installed the nvidia driver via the package manager, it should upgrade for you
[12:19] <se7en^Of^9> a borg with no mounting problems :P
[12:19] <Jesus_saves> although i cannot
[12:19] <holyguyver> lol
[12:19] <mulander> mount self /dev/borg
[12:19] <mulander> :)
[12:19] <mulander> other way around but you get the idea :)
[12:19] <mosiac> ok lets say i didnt and im a retard which package do i need to install?
[12:20] <sille> hi all.  need quick assist w/ network settigns (spec. subetting).  Would someone help or refer me to where I may find info re appropriate settings.  THX
[12:20] <ardchoille> mosiac: That depends.
[12:20] <mosiac> legacy card
[12:20] <ardchoille> !nvidia | mosiac
[12:20] <ubotu> mosiac: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:20] <schiste> sille: be more specifiv please:)
[12:20] <sille> oops i meant subnet masking
[12:20] <mosiac> ok thanks
[12:21] <sille> ok.  i want 2 networks to remain completely seperate from each otehr
[12:21] <sille> one is my dual boot xp/linux pc
[12:21] <sille> the other is a 4 pc network
[12:21] <sille> i had been able to keeep the two from seeing eachother           befoer
[12:21] <drif> sille: you something like http://www.subnet-calculator.com/? or ubuntu-specific?
[12:22] <sille> inwidows by setting 2 different work groups.  the two did not see each otehr at all.
[12:22] <holyguyver> well anyway voiccu, your hardrive is not the same as mine, but we still haven't found a salution to mine's problem
[12:22] <holyguyver> coicu
[12:22] <holyguyver> viocu
[12:22] <feimao> !sound
[12:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:22] <sille> however, linux can see all teh pcs in my house.  hte only commonality is that they are sharing the same router
[12:23] <Jesus_saves> ubuntu is great... i don't need to do anything
[12:23] <bazhang> amen!
[12:23] <sille> drif-->  someone referred me to thsi calc.
[12:23] <Jesus_saves> ?
[12:23] <schiste> ubuntu sucks
[12:23] <sille> bottom line.  I don't really understand it.
[12:23] <schiste> kubuntu rocks
[12:23] <schiste> BIG difference :p
[12:23] <bazhang> ahaha
[12:24] <jpatrick> schiste: they both have the same base
[12:24] <dost> very big haha
[12:24] <sille> when i tried a manual setting on subnet, i could no longer connect to internet from router
[12:24] <schiste> jpatrick: are you really sure of that?
[12:24] <holyguyver> buntu is an okay distro :-p
[12:24] <jpatrick> schiste: well they both come from the same repos
[12:24] <schiste> No way!
[12:25] <holyguyver> I wonder what would happen if google released goobuntu, I wonder if googles popularity amongst youths would actually influince a massive os change :)
[12:25] <sille> if i am not using teh 192.*.*.* ip, my nic connected to the router will not connect to internet
[12:25] <schiste> this is an urban legend
[12:26] <schiste> and I don't think they'll release it soon
[12:26] <holyguyver> I don't think they would ever release it, it is internal
[12:26] <sille> however, when changed subnet mask from teh generic <IP_ADDRESS> to other, it did not work with teh ip range I               setmanually.
[12:27] <Jesus_saves> La la la la la, la la la la la
[12:27] <sille> anyone know sbnetting well enough to suggest a range of ip and matching subnet?
[12:28] <holyguyver> so have you guys figured out how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[12:28] <Jesus_saves> sille, ...
[12:28] <sille> yes jesus?
[12:29] <Jesus_saves> i'm not jesus
[12:29] <sille> mmm k jesus_saves.....
[12:30] <holyguyver> if you combine Jesus-Saves & myself you get one spiritual/holy guy :-p
[12:31] <Jesus_saves> sille, check the ranges of ip's for local addresses(if i recall correctly, the term) and note that <IP_ADDRESS> is class C subnet.
[12:31] <fc__> problem: i cant remove an menu entry from the applications list
[12:31] <fc__> specifically, i cant remove a wine entry from the list
[12:31] <fc__> can anyone help me please?
[12:32] <Jesus_saves> sille, so maybe you want class C local address for your host
[12:32] <r2d2> hello folks'
[12:32] <Jesus_saves> i meant subnet mask... srry i have a habit of being inaccurate
[12:33] <r2d2> does anyone kan help me to setup up a webserver to work with php in ubunto??
[12:33] <pag> !lamp | r2d2
[12:33] <ubotu> r2d2: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:33] <r2d2> lamp?
[12:33] <holyguyver> !ignored
[12:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ignored - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <sille> actually, i just want to make sure that my two seperate networks are not able to see ea other.  i was successful in doing this by creating two different work groups.  In windows, they are blind to ea other.  However, linux sees all...
[12:34] <holyguyver> Ignore
[12:34] <pag> r2d2, see the link ubotu gave you. :)
[12:34] <holyguyver> crap I meant an ! before that :p
[12:34] <holyguyver> sorry I am talking to no one
[12:34] <njende> with which kernel comes gutsy?
[12:34] <r2d2> yes.
[12:34] <sille> i was told by another here earlier that i would have             toset a differen subment mask for the two not to see ea otehr when linux booted.
[12:34] <holyguyver> just herasing the bot
[12:34] <r2d2> thanks! :)
[12:34] <holyguyver> !ignore
[12:34] <ubotu> If you really don't wish to see the messages from a particular person on IRC, you can use /ignore nickname
[12:35] <Jesus_saves> La la la la la, la la la la la
[12:35] <holyguyver> anyway ardchoillie schiste how did a 15 year old fs show up preinstalled on a 5 month old main brand external hardrive?
[12:36] <schiste> I really dunno
[12:36] <njende> hi folks!
[12:36] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, it didn't
[12:36] <sille> all my pcs are sharing 1 router for internet and for sharing purposes.
[12:36] <holyguyver> Jesus_Saves, yes it did, the simpledrive comes preformatted
[12:37] <njende> can anyone tell me in here with which kernel gutsy comes along?
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, no
[12:37] <holyguyver> Yes
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, your perception or your intention
[12:37] <holyguyver> truth, look up it's spexs
[12:37] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, anywayz i have a question for you: when is it appropriate to think unclearly?
[12:38] <holyguyver> you are obviously a troll
[12:38] <Jesus_saves> no, i'm serious
[12:39] <holyguyver> I am thinking clearlyu, & truky look at it's spex if you don't believe me
[12:39] <Jesus_saves> oh, so when there is no consequence, i am free to think unclearly
[12:39] <Jesus_saves> and since human beings like to be unburdened, when there is no consequence we should think unclearly
[12:40] <holyguyver> alright this man is a cuckoo
[12:40] <Jesus_saves> i don't understand
[12:40] <holyguyver> exactly :p
[12:40] <Jesus_saves> ok
[12:41] <holyguyver> anyway schiste, can you please stick on this problem with me a little bit long, I would really like to see if we can clear it up
[12:43] <holyguyver> now we know it came preformatted, & it said on the box preformatted with ntfs, it said it would work instantly on xp & that with mac all you would have to do is reformat it, indeed the same goes for linux, however 200GB is a lot of DVD's worth of backup
[12:44] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, you need to backup before you reformat?
[12:45] <holyguyver> I wasn't talking to you Jesus
[12:45] <Jesus_saves> i'm not jesus
[12:46] <Jesus_saves> ppl just don't understand that there is an advantage of being irrational sometimes
[12:46] <holyguyver> so schiste, do you really think that it is the fs that it says it is or do you think that my ntfs-3g is messing with it & I should uninstall that?
[12:47] <Jesus_saves> (if you appreciate the beauty of a situation then you are automatically rational)
[12:49] <Jesus_saves> you know i have like 20 years of my life
[12:49] <Jesus_saves> i want to do good to my parents
[12:50] <Jesus_saves> sincerely deep in my heart
[12:50] <holyguyver> !troll
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <holyguyver> !flood
[12:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:51] <Jesus_saves> !tail
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tail - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <holyguyver> bible!
[12:54] <holyguyver> well anyone new out there for feels like helping me with my problem?
[12:55] <holyguyver> Am I alone?
[12:56] <holyguyver> echo echo echo
[12:56] <bazhang> no
[12:56] <bazhang> heya!
[12:56] <holyguyver> thank goodness :p
[12:57] <holyguyver> so how are you bazhang?
[12:57] <bazhang> holyguyver: great--got Gutsy?
[12:57] <holyguyver> nope Fiesty, why?
[12:59] <holyguyver> bazhang
[12:59] <bazhang> hey
[01:00] <bazhang> just curious--Gutsy is really stable--much more so for me than Feisty ever was. The amount of care put into this (yet only beta) is unreal...
[01:01] <holyguyver> yeah, I sometimes have thoughts of going baack to dapper
[01:01] <holyguyver> !dapper
[01:01] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[01:02] <holyguyver> !Gutsy
[01:02] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:02] <holyguyver> !fiesty
[01:02] <ubotu> It is spelt "FEIsty" :)
[01:02] <holyguyver> :-p LoL
[01:03] <holyguyver> !feisty
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:03] <Jesus_saves> holyguyver, do you like me?
[01:03] <holyguyver> Jesus_saves, no I don't
[01:03] <bazhang> ouch
[01:05] <holyguyver> Bazhang, do you think gutsy would help me with my hardrive problems?
[01:06] <bazhang> holyguyver: what problems are those?
[01:08] <holyguyver> my hardrive is a hpfs/ntfs & I cannot/won't reformat it, & I have ntfs-3g installed so kubuntu should be able to read it, & it can, but for some reasion it mounted in rwx ro instead of rw
[01:08] <bazhang> holyguyver: which means?
[01:08] <bazhang> can't write?
[01:09] <holyguyver> iot won't let me see or change anything
[01:09] <holyguyver> wont even let me see
[01:09] <holyguyver> it says I do not have permission to see
[01:09] <bazhang> holyguyver: dual boot?
[01:09] <holyguyver> no
[01:09] <holyguyver> external
[01:09] <bazhang> holyguyver: just a storage drive then...
[01:09] <holyguyver> yes
[01:10] <bazhang> holyguyver: what file system?
[01:10] <bazhang> ntfs?
[01:10] <holyguyver> I already said hpsf/ntfs
[01:10] <holyguyver> they said it is a 15 year old file system
[01:10] <bazhang> sorry, just woke from a nap...
[01:13] <holyguyver> :p @ seven
[01:13] <holyguyver> bazhang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPFS
[01:14] <bazhang> holyguyver: thanks; no clue as to a solution--perhaps ubuntu forums, or #hpfs?
[01:15] <se7en^Of^9> holyguyver: ls -l /your/usb/  ...
[01:16] <holyguyver> did that about 6 hours ago
[01:16] <se7en^Of^9> and rwxrwxr x ?
[01:17] <holyguyver> it mounted to rwx ro
[01:19] <Jesus_saves> i remember last rugby worldcup(not the running one) johnny wilkinson of england was like a machine
[01:19] <Jesus_saves> he hardly ever missed
[01:20] <ardchoille> !ot | Jesus_saves
[01:20] <ubotu> Jesus_saves: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[01:21] <Jesus_saves> i'm sure someday i will meet a decent wise girl who genuinely loves me
[01:22] <holyguyver> so se7en^Of^9 any idea?
[01:22] <Jesus_saves> because by that time i will be competent
[01:22] <bazhang> Jesus_saves: pushing the limits...
[01:23] <ardchoille> bazhang: It's either a bot or he doesn't care if he gets kicked.
[01:23] <bazhang> ardchoille: there are bots? Wow.
[01:24] <holyguyver> bazhang there is no #hpfs
[01:24] <alesan> hi
[01:24] <bazhang> holyguyver: I was joshing, sorry.
[01:24] <bazhang> hi alesan!
[01:25] <alesan> is there any source for the win32 codecs (for mplayer) in kubuntu? it seems I cannot find them in adept
[01:25] <ardchoille> alesan: Are you logged in as root?
[01:25] <ardchoille> !seveas | alesan
[01:25] <ubotu> alesan: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - And he's getting married!
[01:27] <Jesus_saves> ardchoille, i'm definitely not a bot if i write a bot
[01:27] <Jesus_saves> even if i write a bot that writes a bot
[01:29] <holyguyver> Jesus_Saves I have seen lots of yahoo bots & jabberwacky write the phraise "A bot"
[01:30] <holyguyver> well I mean Frank_Ribery :-p
[01:30] <alesan> ardchoille: it seems I misconfigured konversation. it should run as a normal user, damn.
[01:31] <holyguyver> ardchoille you never answered me, should I try uninstalling ntfs-3g & see if it will mount right then?
[01:32] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I don't know anything about ntfs.. I haven't touched Windows os since 2001
[01:32] <holyguyver> ntfs-3g is a linux driver for ntfs
[01:32] <ardchoille> Well, I have no need for it then
[01:32] <holyguyver> but I do :-p
[01:33] <ardchoille> Well, you already know more about it than I do
[01:33] <kreib> !wmv
[01:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:33] <holyguyver> so you are suggesting that my suggestion of uninstalling it & seeing if that might help, may be educated advise?
[01:34] <ardchoille> holyguyver: When it comes to ntfs, you're on your own I'm afraid.
[01:35] <holyguyver> well as said it may not be ntfs, it my be hpfs
[01:37] <holyguyver> which from you saying "not since 2001" that means yo7u have touched it (hpfs) :-p
[01:38] <bazhang> holyguyver: do you have a Windows box you can boot from?
[01:38] <holyguyver> yes
[01:38] <ardchoille> holyguyver: The only file system I have dealt with since 2001 is ext3.
[01:38] <ardchoille> Well, ext2/ext3
[01:38] <holyguyver> no I meant before 2001
[01:39] <bazhang> holyguyver: then boot with installed, burn to drive, reattach to linux box, install Gutsy, and Bob's your uncle!
[01:39] <slackern> I have dualboot on this machine, i usually just install ntfs-3g and ntfs-config then i tell ntfs-config to enable everything for rw bla bla and it just works
[01:39] <holyguyver> hey slackern thanks :D
[01:39] <slackern> but using 7.10 right now and then it just worked for my 2 ntfs partitions
[01:39] <bazhang> slackern: thanks!
[01:39] <slackern> hope it works just as easy as it did for me
[01:39] <holyguyver> so are you saying that I should upgrade from feisty?
[01:40] <slackern> Nah not really it should work fine there too
[01:40] <holyguyver> so you are saying I need to configure the ntfs config?
[01:40] <slackern> let me check quickly on the tool, been a couple of months ago since i used it
[01:41] <holyguyver> every time I try & use ntfs conig nothing starts, it seems like a dead menu item
[01:41] <slackern> holyguyver: it should give you a little simple window with like 2 buttons
[01:42] <holyguyver> nope, gives me nothing
[01:42] <slackern> installing it now here too just to try
[01:43] <slackern> 'sudo ntfs-config' started it for me, but hmm maybe it could be something that im in gnome right now
[01:43] <holyguyver> when I enter gksu ntfs-config it says could not run spacific cammand
[01:43] <slackern> oh is it installed?
[01:43] <slackern> 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'
[01:43] <holyguyver> O well then I guess I will have to change the cammand it gave it when it installed
[01:45] <redlex> Hi people
[01:45] <holyguyver> when I sudo apt-get install ntfs-config   ed it I got this E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:46] <slackern> holyguyver: then there is another instance of maybe (adept/apt-get /aptitude/something) running
[01:46] <holyguyver> O yes there is, oops sorry :p
[01:46] <slackern> ^^
[01:47] <slackern> holyguyver: btw just for reference is is just an internal drive or external + internal drive with ntfs?
[01:47] <holyguyver> external
[01:47] <holyguyver> & it told me that it was already installed in it's newset version
[01:48] <holyguyver> ntfs-config that is
[01:49] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm thats odd, it should just work then, i could log into kde and check where it is
[01:49] <slackern> i'll brb
[01:51] <slackern> holyguyver: I see it in the menu under system and then i got NTFS Configuration Tool
[01:51] <holyguyver> Yes me, too but it was a dead link, however I just using your advise that you gave earlier fixed it like I said I would
[01:52] <slackern> ahh so it's working now?
[01:52] <holyguyver> but I only fixed that linkl, still need to fix that drive
[01:52] <slackern> oh
[01:53] <holyguyver> so no not yet, but you have helped me get closer :D
[01:54] <holyguyver> so now it automaticly mounts which is amazing, but it still says that I do not have access rights to it.
[01:55] <Capt_Carrot> i always take the cheap way out and chown the mount directory :)
[01:55] <deviance|dead> What are some good repositorues to get up to date games from? I need nexuiz 2.3
[01:55] <Capt_Carrot> you may have to roll your own on that one
[01:55] <deviance|dead> Damn
[01:56] <deviance|dead> Are there any good reposioties for games?
[01:56] <Capt_Carrot> none that i'm aware of, no
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !source
[01:58] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[01:58] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved?
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !build
[01:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:58] <holyguyver> slackern
[01:58] <slackern> holyguyver: mm
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !gcc
[01:58] <Ahmuck> !configure
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <holyguyver> I wish to show youa pastbin
[01:59] <slackern> holyguyver: sure i can have a look, not sure if it helps or not but i'll look :)
[01:59] <Capt_Carrot> apparently gutsy got 2.3 but it was never moved into feisty-backports
[01:59] <fc__> how do i remove a link to a wine application that has moved? deleting the entry from the edit menu's option doesnt work! help please!
[02:00] <holyguyver> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39850/
[02:01] <Capt_Carrot> deviance|dead: 2.3 is up over at getdeb, though i hesitate to recommend it sometimes...
[02:01] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm looks like it should start, those errors are just for those odd input thingys that they have extra in xorg.conf
[02:02] <holyguyver> I does start & I switched it to external, but as said it still won't let me read nor write to it
[02:02] <deviance|dead> Capt_Carrot: I found a repo for get deb the other day, but when I did a full upgrade it removed kubuntu desktop package
[02:02] <Capt_Carrot> nono
[02:03] <Capt_Carrot> just download the required packages from the site
[02:03] <Capt_Carrot> and kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[02:03] <deviance|dead> I know you can but I had alot fo software to update
[02:03] <deviance|dead> I figured Capt_Carrot! :P
[02:03] <deviance|dead> Gotta restart x
[02:03] <deviance|dead> one sec
[02:08] <holyguyver> so slackern any ideo how I can get it to give me access to it?
[02:09] <slackern> holyguyver: hmm i never had that kind of problem with it not even showing up, so not sure where to start trying to fix it really
[02:09] <slackern> holyguyver: usually starting things from a terminal gives some useful information about those problems but well not this time =/
[02:10] <holyguyver> Well would it help if you knew all of the ntfs drivers & stuff I have installed? maybe it is a drive conflict
[02:11] <charlie5> hi all ... does anyone know how to disable an external usb hardrive from powering itself down (or whatever else it might be which causes it to unmount itself every five or so minuste) ?
[02:12] <holyguyver> Hey ardchoille it is a deja vu again :-p
[02:12] <holyguyver> schiste look :-p
[02:15] <zsz> I have no sound. Sound card is detected, the kernel module is loaded, sound channels are not muted, headphones are connected properly and work with mp3 player. alsa-tools, alsa-oss, alsa-utils and alsa-base are installed. How to enable sound?
[02:16] <kreib> !flash
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:16] <zsz> I mean the headphones work with a separate mp3 player
[02:16] <zsz> like ipod
[02:20] <holyguyver> slackern in the list I saw that I was missing one lib for it, so I am installing that now to see if that helps
[02:21] <slackern> holyguyver: make a backup of your /etc/fstab also
[02:22] <holyguyver> my what?
[02:22] <slackern> holyguyver: /etc/fstab file contains information about how to mount your disks and such, just in case it gets changed and breaks or something
[02:23] <holyguyver> shouldn't I have done that last week when I originally installed ntfs03g?
[02:23] <holyguyver> ntfs-3g*
[02:24] <slackern> holyguyver: well it's usually not needed but it always nice in case something breaks :)
[02:25] <slackern> holyguyver: can save some tears, then it's just too boot up a ubuntu disk, mount partitions and move the file back and it's back up and running :)
[02:38] <robinson> morning, all
[02:38] <bazhang> morning!
[02:39] <ardchoille> holyguyver , schiste: What? Was there a sale on those usb hard drives recently?? lol
[02:39] <bazhang> hahaha
[02:40] <robinson> I need to know how to set my default wireless network using KNetworkManager. I have two networks in my home, one public, one encrypted. I have moved the public one to "untrusted" but tat is the one it connects to everytime i turn on my laptop
[02:41] <holyguyver> Actually yes there was, back 5 months ago, 500GB for 200$
[02:42] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I'm beginning to see why they were so cheap ;)
[02:42] <jpatrick> !wifi | robinson
[02:42] <ubotu> robinson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:44] <robinson> my connection dropped for a sec, did anyone answer yet?
[02:44] <bazhang> !wifi
[02:44] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:51] <hsystem-x> !lock apt
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lock apt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <ghozala> bazhang: hi
[02:52] <hsystem-x> !apt
[02:52] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[02:52] <hsystem-x> !dpkg
[02:52] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[02:53] <pag> !aptfix | hsystem-x, are you looking for this?:
[02:53] <ubotu> hsystem-x, are you looking for this?:: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:53] <ghozala> bazhang: i ve tried the compiz-fusion on system it is runing very good with fiesty
[02:53] <hsystem-x> thx man , yes
[02:54] <pag> yw :)
[02:55] <bazhang> ghozala: yes!
[02:58] <Nolo> my display setting are out of wack...can you give me a link on what to do to fix them?
[03:01] <ghozala> hay help!!!!! which voice plugin i use for kopete konference or gnomemeeting
[03:03] <Nolo> help what do I key in to terinal to reset the display refresh rate to maximum?
[03:04] <kduser^> Hey..
[03:05] <kduser^> will any problems arise if i burn a cdimage on to a dvd ?
[03:05] <hsystem-x> no
[03:06] <hsystem-x> kduser, it is the same..
[03:06] <kduser^> an os image
[03:06] <bazhang> no problem.
[03:06] <kduser^> since I only have dvd`s and no cds at the moment
[03:06] <hsystem-x> yes, it will boot, like a normal cd, no prob. The only thing you need is a DVD reader...
[03:06] <hsystem-x> sooo i guess you have one.
[03:07] <kduser^> I use kubuntu edgy and my sound card is not working.. I installed alsa driver the latest one by compiling from source
[03:07] <kduser^> how do I see my soundcard name /
[03:07] <kduser^> its a lenovo laptop 3000  N100
[03:08] <hsystem-x> type in termina: lspci
[03:08] <hsystem-x> terminal*, there you should see all your devices.
[03:08] <kduser^> Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[03:09] <kduser^> is this card supported by the kernel in edgy ? 2.6.17
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !souncards
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about souncards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !soundcards
[03:10] <kduser^> okay.. I`ll reboot and try I just upgraded  my kernel
[03:10] <hsystem-x> !sound
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about soundcards - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:11] <kduser^> thanks.. :)
[03:11] <bazhang> ubotu?
[03:17] <Nolo> how do I uninstall kubuntu and remove it from grub?
[03:18] <hsystem-x> uninstall it? just format or remove the partitions.
[03:18] <farouk> hi every one
[03:19] <farouk> can you help me in somthing
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> hey farouk
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> whats the problem
[03:19] <farouk> hi good that there is somebody to answer me
[03:19] <farouk> i want to play rmvb files
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> its sunday and its early ;)
[03:19] <farouk> that's the problem
[03:20] <farouk> hhhhhhhhh
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> no... thats the second problem ;)
[03:20] <farouk> early how ????????????
[03:20] <farouk> wwhy it's the second
[03:20] <nosrednaekim> its early in the morning in the US where most of these people are from
[03:20] <Nolo> i have a couple of versions of kubuntu on my computer, so how do I remove them so i can do a clean install
[03:20] <ghozala> hay how can i install .tar.gz extentions
[03:20] <farouk> oh isee
[03:21] <farouk> acutally  don't know
[03:21] <farouk> i am new to the wholle thing
[03:21] <farouk> but
[03:21] <farouk> i think adept manager
[03:21] <farouk> will help
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> !source | ghozala
[03:21] <ubotu> ghozala: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> farouk: what does a rmvb file do?
[03:22] <Nolo> right...except that my display settinga are out of sync and I cant see shyte
[03:22] <ardchoille> Nolo: How do yo have a couple versions of kubuntu?
[03:22] <farouk> rmvb file it's a media file exinsion
[03:22] <Nolo> it did an upgrade and just added the newer version onto grub
[03:22] <ardchoille> Nolo: Do you mean you've upgraded?
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> farouk: then I would get "libxine-extracodecs" from adept and see if that fixes it
[03:22] <Nolo> yes.
[03:23] <holyguyver> how do I mount a drive again?
[03:23] <farouk> maybe
[03:23] <NightBird> Nolo: oh, you can uninstall the older kernel versions
[03:23] <jermain> hi everyone!
[03:23] <farouk> hi
[03:23] <Nolo> nightbird....how???
[03:23] <ardchoille> Nolo: Ok, then you don't have a couple of versions, you simply have your current version. As for the kernels, you can leave them, it does no harm. Or you can uninstall previous kernels.
[03:23] <NightBird> Open up adept, search for kernel image, and remove the older versions
[03:23] <farouk> i told you i am new to the whole thing and i still searching for the proper programs for me
[03:23] <ardchoille> !kernel
[03:23] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild.  Also, see !stages
[03:23] <nosrednaekim> farouk: get that package..
[03:24] <Nolo> right, but my display setting are out of sync and I cant see shyte to do that
[03:24] <holyguyver> ardchoille how do I mount a drive again?
[03:24] <fay_elf> Actually you could edit /boot/grub
[03:24] <farouk> ok
[03:24] <ardchoille> holyguyver: sudo mount /<device> /<mount_point>
[03:24] <holyguyver> thanks :)
[03:24] <ardchoille> yw
[03:24] <NightBird> er... search for linux-image, it will get you too it faster
[03:24] <fay_elf> Menu.cfg
[03:25] <Nolo> first and foremost....my display settings are shyte now....and I cant even see the log-in
[03:25] <fay_elf> Knowing that file is very useful
[03:25] <Nolo> I asked for help....but no one answered....
[03:26] <ardchoille> !display | Nolo
[03:26] <ubotu> Nolo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:26] <Nolo> thanks....
[03:26] <ardchoille> yw
[03:26] <NightBird> what's the problem with it Nolo?
[03:26] <farouk> so could anyone tell me how to play rmvb files
[03:27] <ardchoille> farouk: Is it a real media file?
[03:27] <bazhang> vlc?
[03:27] <farouk> yeah
[03:27] <ardchoille> !realmedia
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about realmedia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <bazhang> realplayer?
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> farouk: I just told you!
[03:27] <jermain> vlc plays about anything ive encountered
[03:27] <farouk> told me what
[03:27] <ardchoille> !real
[03:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> to get the package "libxine-extracodecs" in adept.
[03:27] <fay_elf> Oh and did you guys know that you can have a background in the grub boot screen?
[03:27] <farouk> so is vlc in thhe adept
[03:28] <farouk> oh oh
[03:28] <bazhang> farouk: yes
[03:28] <RiverGate> yes it is
[03:28] <nosrednaekim> fay_elf: yep :) Ubuntu sets it up kinda plain.
[03:28] <holyguyver> so how do I mount that spacific harddrive again?
[03:28] <farouk> ok thank you every one
[03:28] <bazhang> no problem
[03:28] <ardchoille> holyguyver: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[03:29] <fay_elf> That's a good way to begin with GIMP
[03:29] <farouk> so see you next time because i had to study now
[03:29] <holyguyver> now it is saying mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[03:29] <RiverGate> try sda2
[03:29] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Did you unplug it?
[03:30] <holyguyver> yes
[03:30] <holyguyver> & replugge dit
[03:30] <RiverGate> try sda2
[03:30] <ardchoille> holyguyver: See what it says in the disks gui
[03:30] <RiverGate> you prolly didnt safely unplug
[03:30] <holyguyver> I did, & it is the same as it was before
[03:30] <RiverGate> hmm..
[03:31] <ardchoille> RiverGate: This hd has been problematic.. to say the least
[03:31] <RiverGate> ic :/
[03:31] <RiverGate> what kinds of sda do you see when you do "ls /dev"?
[03:32] <RiverGate> or "ls /dev | less"
[03:32] <holyguyver> typing in ls dev does nothing, I think you did not type in fully what I am supposed to type in
[03:32] <RiverGate> argh
[03:32] <RiverGate> wait ill open console
[03:33] <holyguyver> when I typed in ls /dev|less it said END
[03:33] <nosrednaekim> there is no need to pipe ls through less ;)
[03:34] <nosrednaekim> less is for reading files
[03:34] <RiverGate> :o
[03:34] <RiverGate> i like to scroll around with the arrow buttons :)
[03:34] <holyguyver> now concel will not work because it says something about pty
[03:34] <RiverGate> holyguyver: you didnt use the spaces
[03:34] <RiverGate> wth?
[03:35] <fay_elf> ls /dev/sda*
[03:35] <holyguyver> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:35] <RiverGate> whoa
[03:35] <ardchoille> holyguyver: hit the "q" key
[03:35] <RiverGate> i concede to your hd
[03:35] <bazhang> haha
[03:36] <ardchoille> hehe
[03:36] <ardchoille> holyguyver: That's another one slapped :)
[03:36] <RiverGate> lol
[03:36] <bazhang> or as my japanese wii says: game setto!
[03:36] <ardchoille> lol
[03:36] <holyguyver> when I hit q nothing happens
[03:36] <holyguyver> now he just broke my termanol :(
[03:37] <ardchoille> it's not broke
[03:37] <holyguyver> how do I fix it
[03:37] <ardchoille> launch another terminal :)
[03:37] <RiverGate> where are the good ol' times when people asked "how do i move a file in bash?"
[03:37] <ardchoille> quit that one
[03:37] <ardchoille> RiverGate: Long gone
[03:37] <bazhang> holyguyver: some hours backs, I suggested you connect this to a Windows box and then mount it in XP (or whatever), copy over the files, then put it on you Linux box--any reason not to try that?
[03:37] <holyguyver> I have done that 8 times & it keeps on saying Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:38] <ardchoille> "the screen says to insert floppy # 3, but I can only get two in there at a time"
[03:38] <ardchoille> RiverGate: ^^
[03:38] <RiverGate> :p
[03:38] <holyguyver> because my xp only has a 4(four)gb hard drive & I need to transfer 200GB
[03:38] <RiverGate> i'll just sit here quitly and learn from you guys
[03:38] <ardchoille> lol
[03:38] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What is taking up 200Gb ?
[03:39] <holyguyver> my files
[03:39] <RiverGate> 18+
[03:39] <bazhang> holyguyver: and you never backed any of that up?
[03:39] <holyguyver> music, vidfeos & porn :p
[03:39] <holyguyver> nope not yet :p
[03:39] <ardchoille> holyguyver: backups are your friends :)
[03:39] <holyguyver> now how do I fix my termanol?
[03:40] <ardchoille> holyguyver: ctrl+c  ?
[03:40] <hsystem-x> ohh yeah loving gutsy gibbon and the new wireless drivers :D
[03:40] <bazhang> terminal what?
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: which ones?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> hello
[03:40] <bazhang> hsystem-x: it's sweet right?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> i just installed kubuntu
[03:40] <RiverGate> hsystem new wireless drivers?
[03:40] <hsystem-x> yes...
[03:40] <bazhang> hello lucarrrr!
[03:40] <lucarrrr> i am completely new to ubuntu
[03:40] <RiverGate> !!
[03:40] <hsystem-x> so much improvements.
[03:40] <holyguyver> cntr+c did nothing
[03:40] <nosrednaekim> hello lucarrrr:)
[03:40] <lucarrrr> having used only red hat till now
[03:40] <bazhang> lucarrrr: welcome!
[03:40] <lucarrrr> how to installa kdevelop?
[03:40] <lucarrrr> install
[03:40] <RiverGate> lucarrr wecome to a better world!
[03:41] <hsystem-x> no, i want to install kde 4, does anybody of you have done that?
[03:41] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install kdevelop from the terminal.
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: go into adept, the package manager.
[03:41] <ardchoille> holyguyver: What is your terminal doing?
[03:41] <holyguyver> Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype). It is likely that this is due to an incorrect configuration of the PTY devices. Konsole needs to have read/write access to the PTY devices.
[03:41] <bazhang> hsystem-x: unusable.
[03:41] <lucarrrr> already done
[03:41] <lucarrrr> kdevelop doesn't apper
[03:41] <hsystem-x> unusable?
[03:41] <lucarrrr> in the list of installable packages
[03:41] <bazhang> hsystem-x: yep
[03:41] <lucarrrr> which is the main package repository
[03:41] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: do a "sudo apt-get update" do update your package lists
[03:42] <holyguyver> it says that from the second it pops up & when I hit "OK" it closes
[03:42] <bazhang> lucarrrr: from my apt-cache search kdevelop: kdevelop - An IDE for Unix/X11
[03:42] <RiverGate> ooh i got a question: in a unix script i want a user to define a variable
[03:42] <RiverGate> how do i do that?
[03:42] <nosrednaekim> RiverGate: you mean a bash script?
[03:42] <RiverGate> yes
[03:43] <holyguyver> ravergate I have a question, why did you break my bash?
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> lucarrrr: if you are on dapper, you may need to enable some repositories
[03:43] <hsystem-x> hahah
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> !repositories
[03:43] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:43] <RiverGate> holy its a simple command to list items in a dir
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: wait for beta 3 to use KDE4
[03:43] <holyguyver> well it broke bash
[03:43] <hsystem-x> .
[03:43] <RiverGate> i dont know how it could 'break' your bash
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> hsystem-x: right now it has no panel ;)
[03:43] <nosrednaekim> RiverGate: eh.. I once uninstalled it in Suse
[03:44] <nosrednaekim> =)
[03:44] <hsystem-x> ok :),
[03:44] <holyguyver> well it did, now all people can do is pty me
[03:44] <RiverGate> nosrednaekim :p
[03:44] <steffen> hello^
[03:44] <bazhang> heya steffen
[03:44] <steffen> hi i am new here
[03:45] <RiverGate> holy, the line i made you type equivelent to clicking a map to see what files are in it
[03:45] <bazhang> steffen: what's your question?
[03:45] <RiverGate> im not gonna claim its not because of my line
[03:45] <holyguyver> rivergate, you have now been dubbed the bashbreaker the termanol termanator the konsol killer :-p
[03:45] <RiverGate> AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaargh
[03:45] <lucarrrr> where can i find a comprensive list
[03:45] <steffen> where do you come from
[03:45] <lucarrrr> of the main and better repositories?
[03:45] <RiverGate> All your bash are belong to us!
[03:45] <bazhang> !ot
[03:45] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:46] <hsystem-x> .
[03:46] <bazhang> not you RiverGate
[03:46] <RiverGate> oh lol :p so how do i get a user to define a variable in a bash script?
[03:47] <ardchoille> RiverGate: read ?
[03:47] <stdin> RiverGate: #bash is the place to ask
[03:47] <RiverGate> argh, ofcourse
[03:47] <bazhang> lucarrrr: kubuntu will find the repositories for you automatically, based on what you entered in timezone info.
[03:47] <RiverGate> on my way :p
[03:47] <bazhang> hi stdin
[03:47] <stdin> hi
[03:47] <holyguyver> so how do I fix konsal?
[03:49] <holyguyver> ardchoille, you read the problem, how do I fix it? :'(
[03:49] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I've never seen that problem. usually "q" or ctrl+c quits whatever is being run in term
[03:50] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You're saying that anytime you launch konsole now it shows that msg and quits?
[03:50] <holyguyver> as said it closes when I hit ok, but then when I repoen it it says it again
[03:50] <wathek> hello all
[03:50] <holyguyver> yes
[03:50] <bazhang> hi!
[03:50] <wathek> is there any way to read the ram or rm files of some radio straming ?
[03:50] <holyguyver> yes it does that any time >I start it
[03:50] <wathek> with amarok ?
[03:50] <RiverGate> #bash has 309 non responsive people 8/
[03:50] <bazhang> haha
[03:50] <ardchoille> RiverGate: lol
[03:50] <lucarrrr> nothing
[03:50] <RiverGate> nvm sm1s alive
[03:51] <bazhang> kind of like here, only fewer.
[03:51] <lucarrrr> i have dependencies problems
[03:51] <lucarrrr> it refuses to install kdevelop
[03:51] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: With what?
[03:51] <holyguyver> so what is pty?
[03:51] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: How are you installing it?
[03:51] <lucarrrr> a lot of stuff
[03:51] <lucarrrr> libstdc++
[03:51] <lucarrrr> and libc
[03:51] <lucarrrr> apt-get install kdevelop
[03:52] <stdin> holyguyver: "man pty"
[03:52] <stdin> lucarrrr: use the pastebin to post the errors
[03:52] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: Are you running Gutsy?
[03:53] <lucarrrr> how do i see which version am i a running?
[03:53] <lucarrrr> it should be 6 something
[03:53] <lucarrrr> but i don't know for sure
[03:53] <stdin> !version
[03:53] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:53] <lucarrrr> i don't have the installation cd here
[03:53] <ardchoille> lucarrrr: Look at what ubotu just posted
[03:53] <ardchoille> stdin: Thanks
[03:54] <lucarrrr> edgy 6.10
[03:54] <frank_> anyone else experience this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/149869
[03:54] <frank_> Knetworkmanager says no active device in kubuntu gutsy
[03:55] <frank_> gtg
[03:55] <NightBird> frank_: gutsy support in #ubuntu+1
[03:55] <frank_> NightBird: ok
[03:56] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[03:56] <NightBird> hey
[03:57] <contrast83> Anyone know what would cause Amarok to be using ~20% CPU?
[03:59] <pauljw> contrast83: is it staying at 20%?  mine hits that when it accesses the next tune but then drops off to say 1.3 where it is right now.  could it be updating the album covers?  i read somewhere that it does that periodically.
[04:01] <contrast83> pauljw: It's staying at at least 20%, spikes to ~%70 when changing tracks.
[04:03] <pauljw> contrast83: whoa, that's not right.  i have no idea what would be causing that, have you checked their site for bug reports?
[04:04] <contrast83> Nope, I'll have a look around. I *am* on Gutsy, so it might be related to that.
[04:09] <holyguyver> anyway, I have fixed bash from rivergates mess, now how do I fix that HHD :-p LoL
[04:09] <Seibikitei> Greetings everyone, I was curious if anyone had any advice for optimizing xorg.conf with an Nvidia 8800 GTS card and the official drivers, I haven't had any luck searching Google and what not
[04:09] <shadowhywind> Question, Why if i used the website package search it says a package is in the universe repository, but when i look in apt/adept i don't find it
[04:10] <tekteen> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <tekteen> nm
[04:10] <shadowhywind> universe and multiverse are both uncommented
[04:10] <tekteen> go to the adept manager
[04:11] <tekteen>  ok
[04:11] <tekteen> sudo apt-get update
[04:11] <shadowhywind> *i am also in the adept manager, if you wanted me to still be there*
[04:12] <tekteen> fetch updates
[04:12] <bazhang> tekteen: sudo is for terminal, no?
[04:12] <tekteen> yes
[04:12] <tekteen> sorry
[04:12] <tekteen> use fetch updates
[04:12] <shadowhywind> done that, and still not finding it
[04:13] <tekteen> what is the package called
[04:13] <shadowhywind> apt-file
[04:13] <tekteen> I can find it
[04:14] <shadowhywind> odd..
[04:14] <stdin> !info apt-file
[04:14] <ubotu> apt-file: APT package searching utility -- command-line interface. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 12 kB, installed size 96 kB
[04:14] <tekteen> it is part of universe/base
[04:14] <shadowhywind> Let me pastebin my apt sources.list and see if possiable i am missing something
[04:14] <stdin> shadowhywind: does "apt-cache search apt-file" find it ?
[04:14] <shadowhywind> nothing
[04:15] <shadowhywind> !pastebin
[04:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:15] <tekteen> in command line type sudo apt-get install apt-file
[04:16] <shadowhywind> it says that it is not available, but is referred to by another package,.... Package apt-file has no installation candidate
[04:16] <shadowhywind> by any chance would apt-file not work on amd64?
[04:16] <tekteen> maybe
[04:16] <tekteen> I use 32
[04:16] <stdin> the package is available on all architectures
[04:18] <shadowhywind> here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39860/
[04:19] <holyguyver> Ardchoille now I finally got it to mount, now it is in /mnt/sda1 but still will not give me permission to rewad it :p
[04:19] <bazhang> rewad?
[04:20] <ardchoille> holyguyver: That is an HPFS/NTFS partition.. I can't help you with it.
[04:20] <holyguyver> slackern!
[04:21] <holyguyver> I wonder if slackern is even still here :p
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> ASUS Motherboard Ships With Embedded Linux, Web Browser
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> Nifty@
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=869&num=1
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Within five seconds of turning on this $360 USD gaming/enthusiast motherboard, you can be using Linux and surfing the Internet.
[04:22] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: nice :)
[04:22] <bazhang> I saw that Dr_Willis
[04:22] <holyguyver> is there any kubuntu hpfs/ntfs experts in the room?!
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> Ive used thentfs stuff a little..
[04:23] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Maybe Dr_Willis can help
[04:23] <holyguyver> & the ntfs room only has like 4 people in it & they all seem asleep
[04:23] <holyguyver> Hi Dr :D
[04:24] <tekteen> I do not suggest using ntfs read write drivers
[04:24] <holyguyver> Dr I have a ntfs external USB drive, I have ntfs-3g fully installed, but when I try to go to the files/folder that it is mounted to it says I do not have permissions to access
[04:24] <tekteen> If windows changes 1 thing that you don-t know about you could lose all you data
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver  check the fstab file.. see if you have an entry for the thing?
[04:25] <holyguyver> where would fstab be?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> !fstab
[04:25] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> time for linux fundamentals. :)
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> You did run the ntfs-config tool, then UNMOUNT the drive, and try plugging it back in?
[04:26] <holyguyver> I do not have a folder named that
[04:27] <holyguyver> there is no fstab folder
[04:27] <stdin> it's a file
[04:27] <holyguyver> O
[04:27] <stdin> not a directory
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> Its time to learn some Linux FUNdamentals i think
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> cat /etc/fstab
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> look at the fstab file - that defines what gets mounted where. (well for non-removeable media)
[04:28] <tekteen> type "man man" Then "man bash" :-)
[04:28] <holyguyver> but it is removable media
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> if you install the ntfs-config tool. run it then check the 2 box;'s it has.. then perhaops reboot.. it 'should' work
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> I dont use ntfs-reoveable media much. and when i do i add an entry in the fstab file for it.
[04:29] <holyguyver> I already did the ntfs config
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> just to be sure its getting mounted right
[04:29] <Ben_Cs> hello. i instaled a switch in my home network. WinXP works fine. Kubuntu: some progs (pidgin,skype) have internet, and some (firefox,opera,xchat) don't. please help!
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> IF the drive was allready mounted when you ran ntfs-config. you must unmount/remount it.
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> which  may have it confused if you ran ntfs-config while it was mounted.
[04:30] <holyguyver> I have unmounted it & restart my pc several times since then
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> then i would say check the fstab file. make a entry to mount it manually
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> thee should be entrys for any other ntfs disks you have. use them as an example
[04:31] <holyguyver> here is the fstab http://pastebin.com/d640122f5
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> it appears you had no ntfs entries to begin with. so ntfs-config did not change it.
[04:32] <PHPechowiec> hi
[04:32] <emilsedgh> !hi | PHPechowiec
[04:32] <PHPechowiec> how to upgrade my kde to 7.10
[04:32] <ubotu> PHPechowiec: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:32] <stdin> PHPechowiec: ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:33] <emilsedgh> PHPechowiec: you mean, your kubuntu?
[04:33] <holyguyver> well now i just unmounted the drive & re-did the config
[04:33] <emilsedgh> stdin: when this channel will become official gutsy support channel?
[04:33] <stdin> emilsedgh: when gutsy is releases
[04:34] <stdin> releaseD
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver you did run the ntfs-config tool as root?
[04:34] <holyguyver> & fstab now looks the same, unchanged
[04:34] <holyguyver> yes as sudo
[04:34] <emilsedgh> stdin: just a few days! we will have restricted-manager! no more nvidia/ati problems here!
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver theres no ntfs entries to begin with - so its not changing them.
[04:34] <PHPechowiec> i enter to the console sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and now i have 7.10(gusty) and I have kde 3.5 but I want kde 4.0
[04:34] <Dr_Willis> you need to add a proper ntfs entry for it to change.
[04:35] <holyguyver> how do I do that?
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[04:35] <stdin> PHPechowiec: kde4 is unusable now, and not installed by default
[04:35] <bazhang> PHPechowiec: wait until December then
[04:35] <stdin> PHPechowiec: it won't be default in gutsy either
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> that url is a bit old.. wonder if theres a better one
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[04:35] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:36] <Dr_Willis> example ntfs3g fstab entry --->
[04:36] <PHPechowiec> when kde 4.0 will be relased
[04:36] <Dr_Willis>     /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[04:36] <stdin> !kde4 | PHPechowiec
[04:36] <ubotu> PHPechowiec: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta2.php
[04:36] <holyguyver> I already have all of that installed, did that last week Dr_Willis
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver then you just need the proper fstab entry... another example
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> -->  /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs-3g users,uid=THE_ID_OF_THE_OWNER,gid=THE_ID_OF_THE_GROUP 0 0
[04:39] <holyguyver> The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/fstab. Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available.
[04:39] <holyguyver> that is what it told me when I tried to save the new entry
[04:39] <tekteen> does anyone know how to find the exact frame I pause on (videos)
[04:41] <holyguyver> Dr_willis
[04:42] <mohamed_> !ati
[04:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> holyguyver its a system file..  Logicially you MUST edit it as the root user
[04:43] <jdong> stdin: whoa have I had it all last night?
[04:43] <jdong> oops
[04:43] <holyguyver> so you are telling me I must kdesku it then?
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> or however else you perfer to do root thing.
[04:43] <stdin> jdong: that's nothing compared to how long I had it in #ubuntu ;)
[04:43] <Dr_Willis> i use 'sudo vi /etc/fstab' myself :)
[04:43] <jdong> stdin: hehe :)
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> or kdesu whatevereditoryoulike /etc/fstab
[04:44] <stdin> "kdesu kate /etc/fstab"
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> bbl -  wife is yelling.
[04:47] <holyguyver> kdesu kate /ect/fstab is what I used
[04:49] <holyguyver> Well Dr_willis now it mounts, but it was mounting before, but it still is not giving me access to it.
[04:52] <holyguyver> woah guys ardchoille Dr_willis & so on, when I tried to safely unmount it it told me "Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sda1 (/dev/sda1) named 'SimpleDrive' and currently mounted at /mnt/sda1 could not be unmounted. Unmounting failed due to the following error: Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab"
[04:53] <soa2ii> Hi there... I got a really weird problem... sometimes my keyboard prints the same char again and again... afaik it is no hardware problem
[04:53] <soa2ii> now i suppress it with the kde control center
[04:54] <holyguyver> ardchoille do you at least know what would cause that?
[04:54] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Wow, never seen that before. I have a feeling you're not going to get that drive working in Linux.
[04:55] <holyguyver> But what does the "Cannot open /media/.hal-mtab" mean?
[04:55] <mulander> 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]  (rev 03)<-- how to install drivers for this card?
[04:56] <soa2ii> mulander: I think intel cards are standard supported...
[04:56] <mulander> soa2ii: my gf installed kubuntu from wubi
[04:56] <soa2ii> wubi?
[04:56] <soa2ii> gf := geforce?
[04:56] <mulander> windows based installer
[04:56] <ardchoille> holyguyver: It could mean that the file doesn't exist
[04:56] <mulander> gf == girl friend
[04:57] <soa2ii> :P
[04:57] <holyguyver> isn't that file importent?
[04:57] <ardchoille> holyguyver: I don't have that file either
[04:57] <mulander> the question is how to install the drivers manually
[04:57] <mulander> :)
[04:57] <soa2ii> Hm... they are in the standard kernel... so they are still there...
[04:57] <holyguyver> Ardchoilleyou are having a lot of first with my Kubuntu aren't you? :-p
[04:58] <mulander> wubi uses alternate install cd from what I saw.
[04:58] <soa2ii> can you look into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:58] <ardchoille> holyguyver: You can say that again
[04:58] <mulander> soa2ii: I can grep for vesa if you want to know that :)
[04:59] <soa2ii> ok... :P
[04:59] <holyguyver> believe it or not my WinXP has just as many problems :p all my computers do, maybe it is something about legasy sistems that do that :p
[05:00] <ardchoille> holyguyver: Maybe it's something about how you use the computers?
[05:00] <soa2ii> mulander: and 'lsmod' doesn't show the module?
[05:00] <holyguyver> nope, I have onyl had kubuntu installed for two weeks & only been on it two days out of that
[05:00] <mulander> soa2ii: driver == i810
[05:01] <mulander> but glxinfo | grep direct -i shows direct rendering : no
[05:01] <holyguyver> I use computers mainly for office woprk, music, videos, & porn
[05:01] <soa2ii> Hm... is DRI enabled?
[05:01] <soa2ii> in the xorg.conf
[05:02] <mulander> I doubt it
[05:02] <mulander> but it's not enabled on mine 2
[05:02] <mulander> and I get the direct rendering yes msg.
[05:02] <soa2ii> Hm...
[05:03] <holyguyver> I was a power user back in the days of win3.0, but am very rusty now though, so perhaps I indeed fiddle with things in odd ways, I do not know.
[05:03] <soa2ii> Have you set the driber from vesa to i180?
[05:03] <mulander> soa2ii: no, the system set it by itself
[05:03] <soa2ii> Huh? I thought you can grep for vesa :P
[05:04] <mulander> I did, so I didn't see any results and told her to check the config file :)
[05:04] <soa2ii> (:
[05:04] <holyguyver> well I am calling it a night ardchoille talk to you in about two weeks again, & hey aren't you glad this time I wasn't killing you with my insistance on being kavorkian, this time my ext hhd was the one insisting :p
[05:04] <soa2ii> Why can't she just install it "right" :P ... and aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri
[05:04] <soa2ii> ?
[05:06] <estel> hi
[05:06] <estel> is there a way to set the standard umask for mounting ntfs partitions?
[05:06] <mulander> soa2ii: she has no cd burner, and the .iso I gave her was corrupted
[05:06] <mulander> :)
[05:06] <holyguyver> Ardchoille I can see it now a DebIAN linux durivative called KavorkIAN linux LoL :p
[05:07] <soa2ii> mulander: args... aptitude show libgl1-mesa-dri ?
[05:08] <lisa> can anyone please help with an apt/dpkg problem? thanks!
[05:08] <holyguyver> any distro devalupers out there, I freely give you the right to use the KavorkIAN Linux name for your own distro, you can GPL that name :p LoL
[05:11] <mulander> soa2ii: installed
[05:12] <soa2ii> mulander: weird... i180 installed, loaded and set in the xorg.conf...
[05:12] <soa2ii> mulander: what does the x11 log show?
[05:13] <mulander> soa2ii: can't check now as her pc is offline
[05:14] <mulander> soa2ii: I'm just wondering if here model supports direct rendering at all :)
[05:14] <soa2ii> mulander: thats bad... i thnik the best will be: take a new *.iso and you will install all (:
[05:14] <mulander> soa2ii: but thanks for the help anyways - another quick question - is there a way to 'close' Klamav properly?
[05:14] <soa2ii> Hm... this is a deamon... isn't it?
[05:15] <soa2ii> clamd or so...
[05:15] <mulander> clamav is a daemon
[05:15] <mulander> klamav is just a front-end
[05:15] <soa2ii> what about
[05:15] <mulander> and the front-end doesn't want to close :)
[05:15] <mulander> stays in the system tray
[05:15] <soa2ii> Ahh :D
[05:15] <soa2ii> Even not with strg+q?
[05:15] <mulander> I think it's a bug with their app :)
[05:15] <mulander> well it quits after getting struck with the cursor of doom ^^
[05:15] <soa2ii> :S Why are you using it?
[05:16] <mulander> my gf needed something for scanning the pendrive when it get's back from other pcs :)
[05:16] <soa2ii> Clamav is just for protecting windows pcs :P
[05:16] <mulander> soa2ii: yes and she dual boots
[05:16] <Juacom99> can anione plese remoend me a good divx palyer??
[05:16] <soa2ii> Ah... hmm
[05:16] <bazhang> vlc?
[05:16] <Juacom99> ok thanks ^^
[05:17] <soa2ii> Juacom99: Kaffeine+xine (:
[05:17] <bazhang> he said good..haha
[05:17] <soa2ii> mulander: Hm... what about killall klamav
[05:17] <soa2ii> ?
[05:17] <mulander> soa2ii: I can kill it that's not the problem
[05:17] <soa2ii> bazhang: therefore i mentioned kaffeine+xine ;)
[05:17] <mulander> I just want to know if it's their bug that the app doesn't want to close using regular methods
[05:17] <Juacom99> what's xine?? sorry noob here :$
[05:18] <mulander> Juacom99: simply speaking - xine is the engine that plays stuff
[05:18] <mulander> :)
[05:18] <soa2ii> Juacom99: Just a backend
[05:18] <Juacom99> :O
[05:18] <bazhang> http://xinehq.de/
[05:18] <bazhang> soa2ii: got me..haha
[05:19] <Juacom99> so this xine may works with amarok??
[05:19] <mulander> Juacom99: amarok uses xine to play music
[05:19] <soa2ii> mulander: Hm... what if you start klamav on the console and wath for errors on close?
[05:19] <soa2ii> bazhang: hm?
[05:19] <mulander> Juacom99: kaffeine uses xine to play music, and video.
[05:19] <mulander> soa2ii: good idea
[05:20] <mulander> no errors
[05:20] <mulander> but I think i found the problem
[05:20] <bazhang> soa2ii: xine rules? ok? haha
[05:20] <Juacom99> hoo by the way good pastbin page (Y)
[05:20] <mulander> the must have code the app to minimize on the destroy signal
[05:20] <mulander> and the same signal is sent when somone clicks close in the tray
[05:20] <soa2ii> bazhang: I have no problems with my kaffeine/xine setup... it's all fine
[05:20] <Juacom99> i already add to my favorites
[05:20] <mulander> so the app want's to minimize again insted of closing.
[05:21] <soa2ii> mulander: I don't really know if one wants to use such a bad software :D
[05:21] <bazhang> soa2ii: sorry for the misunderstanding; I was just kidding around--xine is fine, I just prefer other than kaffeine. My bad!
[05:21] <soa2ii> bazhang: ok ;)
[05:21] <mulander> soa2ii: well the idea of opensource software is to reports bugs right? so the can make it better :)
[05:22] <bazhang> yes!
[05:22] <soa2ii> mulander: :P ok
[05:22] <mulander> go back to kernel 1.0 :)
[05:22] <mulander> and compare to 2.6
[05:22] <mulander> if people would not report bugs then you would still be there
[05:22] <mulander> :)
[05:22] <soa2ii> mulander: :p those little changes :P
[05:23] <soa2ii> I would be much more happy if my keyboard would work... :/
[05:23] <mulander> ok I have to go afk
[05:23] <soa2ii> mulander: bye...
[05:23] <mulander> see you all later and thanks for all the help soa2ii
[05:23] <soa2ii> np
[05:23] <Metrol> Speaking of buggies, anyone else having wifi problems after the last batch of updates?
[05:24] <Metrol> I can iwlist with my wlan0 interface, but the NetworkManager doesn't show anything... and yes, wireless is enabled
[05:24] <bazhang> Metrol: like whar?
[05:25] <blood> Nice...I made it :)
[05:25] <Metrol> bazhang: I no longer get a list of wireless hubs to select from on the KNetworkManager icon in the systray
[05:26] <blood> I've been browsing around the internet all day and night trying to find tips and tricks on learning about Linux, but have come to find a lot of it overwhelming.
[05:26] <bazhang> Metrol: have you configured it in administrator mode?
[05:26] <Metrol> I was getting a nice list, and I was able to connect to my LinkSys box via wpa up until a couple of days ago
[05:26] <blood> Does anyone have any advice on how to fix my computer to get the sound working?  Everything is working except sound.
[05:26] <Metrol> bazhang: Yup... and it sees the wlan0 interface
[05:26] <bazhang> Metrol: are you comfortable using a terminal (Konsole)?
[05:26] <Metrol> Sure
[05:27] <bazhang> Metrol: which card?
[05:27] <Metrol> Oh heck... I know this one.....
[05:27] <Metrol> Intel...ummm, oh heck, need to look it up
[05:27] <Metrol> Got lazy about it while it was working :)
[05:27] <bazhang> 3945w?
[05:27] <blood> That might help me actually, is there a command I can type to find out what sound card I have?
[05:27] <Metrol> 4965
[05:27] <bazhang> lspci
[05:28] <blood> Thank you.
[05:28] <BluesKaj> blood, lspci | grep audio
[05:28] <Metrol> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[05:28] <blood> Thank you, blueskah & bahzang.
[05:29] <blood> blueskaj*
[05:29] <BluesKaj> blood, or this : sudo asoundconf list
[05:29] <bazhang> blood: no problem
[05:30] <squidy> i've got xorg configured to dual head.. i wanna run compiz only in screen 0.. if i execute compiz from terminal with only-current-screen it works.. but my doubt is how can i set this at the start up in kubuntu?
[05:30] <blood> Lol, Names of available sound cards: CK8 - should I get more information before finding out how to get it working or is that all I need to google?
[05:31] <blood> It doesn't seem very complete
[05:31] <Metrol> squidy, I don't know your answer exactly, but I'd suspect you'll have to dive into some of the KDM startup configs
[05:32] <Metrol> It'll most likely be one of them file copied over from XDM, so you'll most likely find your answer around those man pages
[05:32] <squidy> Metrol, i've tried to put the complete command of compiz into .kde/env scripts.. but it didn't work :(
[05:32] <Metrol> Oh heck, where is the kdm configs in Linux?
[05:32] <blood> I think I found it! 0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
[05:32] <squidy> toca aqui _o/
[05:33] <sbucatino> #alsa
[05:33] <NickPresta> squidy, have you ever written a script for /etc/init.d/?
[05:33] <Metrol> squidy: I'll bet it has to be at the server level
[05:33] <squidy> nick__, no i haven't
[05:33] <BluesKaj> blood , perhaps you could copy and paste the lspci output to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ so we can have a look , just post the pastebin resultant URL here
[05:33] <Metrol> I doubt you'd be able to do that kind of tweak as a user
[05:33] <squidy> for that, no
[05:33] <bazhang> Metrol: it seems in development forum that there may be  a problem with the iwlwifi/iwl4965 driver
[05:33] <BluesKaj> blood, then to set your default soundcard : sudo asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[05:33] <bazhang> ubuntuforums, sorry.
[05:33] <NickPresta> squidy, you may want to examine the scripts in /etc/init.d and make a new one, called 'compiz-fusion' and adapt it to your needs.
[05:34] <Metrol> Oh phewy... it WAS working so nicely for a couple of weeks here on Gutsy :(
[05:34] <Metrol> bazhang: Do you have a URL?
[05:34] <squidy> nick__, nick__ are there any example about that?
[05:34] <blood> Ok, thank you blues:  I did that and I have a large amount of text to paste - won't that spam the screen?
[05:34] <bazhang> can I paste it here? It's kind of long...
[05:35] <bazhang> stdin: would that be ok?
[05:35] <underdog5004> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:35] <blood> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39875/
[05:35] <blood> !!
[05:35] <blood> Yay
[05:35] <blood> :)
[05:36] <Juacom99> sorry another quiestion
[05:36] <Juacom99> i'm installing xine
[05:36] <NickPresta> squidy, http://pastebin.ca/728985
[05:36] <Juacom99> and it said it need zlib
[05:37] <NickPresta> squidy, that is a simplistic example
[05:37] <Metrol> bazhang: You could just msg me off channel... I think that works with Pidgin here
[05:37] <deviance> stdin: Whre does openoffice store its autosaves and backups how can I access them
[05:37] <blood> BluesKaj:  That is all of the information displayed by lspci - and well the main problem I'm having is I simply cannot get sound.
[05:37] <Metrol> Hmmm, gonna learn all kinds of new stuff today :)
[05:37] <squidy> NickPresta, let me see.. thanks
[05:37] <blood> The CD player and audio programs just freeze up when I put a CD in.
[05:37] <stdin> deviance: no clue
[05:38] <deviance> Damn, anyone know how to get open office back ups?
[05:38] <stdin> Juacom99: xine is already installed in kubuntu, don't compile it
[05:38] <Juacom99> ok thanks XD
[05:39] <blood> I guess vocabulary will be the biggest hurdle in learning Linux =O
[05:39] <Juacom99> but something is missing :
[05:39] <bazhang> thanks underdog5004
[05:39] <Juacom99> i can't heard audio CD :S
[05:39] <blood> me either :(
[05:40] <BluesKaj> blood, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply
[05:40] <squidy> NickPresta, create a script for some daemon in init.d i know.. but my doubt is how to create that script for compiz-fusion.. 'cause i really need to have X server executing before compiz-fusion script starts
[05:40] <blood> Nice, let me try that :)
[05:41] <NickPresta> squidy, you could create a script and put it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[05:41] <BluesKaj> blood , that's only part of it , there's more to come :)
[05:41] <Vill> Hi, I'm sure you guys are sick of hearing this, but I've really hosed myself and need help. Anyone want to tackle what I think is a serious problem?
[05:41] <Azzco> Does anyone know how to install grub to a USB-stick from windows?
[05:42] <blood> Thanks Blues, it's restarting now *crossing fingers*
[05:42] <deviance> stdin: It autorecovers on startup :D
[05:42] <Azzco> Vill, tell us what's the problem
[05:42] <BluesKaj> blood, thenext thing to do: in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[05:43] <blood> Ok, this thing is restarting several times - not sure how long it will take
[05:43] <blood> But I'll do that as soon as it finishes
[05:43] <squidy> NickPresta, i'm using this solution at this moments.. but i'm having an inconvenient trouble with my kicker (pager).. and some icons like adept_notify that stay out of tray when kde Autostarts compiz at start up... ;(
[05:43] <BluesKaj> restarting what. blood ?
[05:43] <villaael> I tried to install a new video driver (Nvidia) and now it won't start. If I boot in "normal" mode (non-recovery) I get the loading screen and the progress bar fills like normal but then the screen blinks and i get the loading screen with an empty bar and it just sits there
[05:44] <villaael> I switched to my backup copy of xorg.conf but its still doing it
[05:44] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?
[05:44] <chisdasvinto> hi
[05:44] <blood> blues:  When I applied the Advanced Architecture option and then clicked apply - it began cycling through a "Sound System Restarting" window
[05:44] <Metrol> bazhang: That thread is before the beta came out.  This card has been working okay since the beta.  I believe the card is still working okay, but that there's a problem with NetworkManager
[05:44] <blood> I think it's almost done though.
[05:44] <villaael> Last night I got an error about the kernel version of the driver and my kernel version not being the same
[05:44] <chisdasvinto> need help with nvidia drivers, someone can help me??
[05:44] <Azzco> villaael, Ctrl+Alt+F1 log in then sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[05:44] <NickPresta> !ask | chisdasvinto
[05:44] <ubotu> chisdasvinto: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <bazhang> Metrol: my bad.
[05:45] <blood> Actually, it keeps going from 90% to 5% is this normal? :D
[05:45] <BluesKaj> no
[05:45] <Azzco> At least you can change to the opensource nvidia driver with that command and then reinstall the nvidia drivers
[05:45] <Juacom99> is working for me :D
[05:45] <blood> Haha
[05:45] <Metrol> bazhang: Hey, thanks for the effort... I just need to keep on the hunt
[05:45] <Juacom99> i can liten CD now :)
[05:45] <blood> :\
[05:45] <chisdasvinto> i got on xorg: EE error - failed to load module "NVIDIA"
[05:46] <chisdasvinto> dpkg-reconfigure doesn't fix the problem
[05:46] <Metrol> I pulled the nvidia driver off the box... caused more problems than it solved
[05:46] <BluesKaj> blood what app is cycling ?
[05:46] <Metrol> Couldn't put my lappy to sleep with it installed
[05:46] <bazhang> Metrol: sorry I couldn't fix it for you--I suspect such a new card will be fixed (drivers that is) some time not to long in the future.
[05:46] <villaael> Azzco: should there be a space between xserver and xorg? I'm not getting any results from that, just displays the dpkg instructions
[05:46] <Metrol> bazhang: I don't think there's a problem with the card's drivers though
[05:46] <chisdasvinto> trying to return to the old driver give the same problem, before it was working fine
[05:47] <Azzco> villaael, it was some time ago but if you have access to google use it ;9
[05:47] <Metrol> the wlan0 interface comes up, and I can iwlist access points
[05:47] <NickPresta> chisdasvinto, did you install the correct nvidia driver? Could you post your xorg.conf in a pastebin?
[05:47] <bazhang> Metrol: iwconfig
[05:47] <blood> Blues:  Well I'm in the window "Sound & Multimedia - System..." and I clicked the "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" then "Apply" - Next a small window "Restarting Sound System" popped up and has been going from 0 - 100 slowly over and over.
[05:47] <ubuntu> Hi. I'm switching to a new hard disk  but I have some problems with booting.
[05:47] <Metrol> It's the fancy graphical NetworkManager that doesn't seem to want to work
[05:47] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu?
[05:48] <Metrol> bazhang: I saw that... what I haven't taken the time to do here on Linux is setup the wpa_supplicant manually
[05:48] <BluesKaj> ok, blood , just close that window
[05:48] <deviance> !info griffin-imic
[05:48] <ubotu> Package griffin-imic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:48] <deviance> !griffin
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about griffin - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <ceritus> !info -griffin-imic
[05:48] <ceritus> !info griffin-imic
[05:48] <blood> I think we're on the same track - I closed it and I'm going to go back in to see if the option is still selected then proceed to next step.
[05:48] <BluesKaj> blood, in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'
[05:48] <blood> Yeah, it's still there as Advanced Arch... So hopefully it worked.
[05:49] <Metrol> brb
[05:49] <_GoRDoN_> Next message should be someting like "Reading files needed during the boot" but my computer never gets to there
[05:49] <chisdasvinto> pastebin, what's that?
[05:49] <NickPresta> !pastebin | chisdasvinto
[05:49] <ubotu> chisdasvinto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:49] <blood> For example:  Line [Off]  = mute?
[05:49] <villaael> That's part of the problem, I don't know what to google. :)
[05:50] <BluesKaj> MM= mute
[05:50] <bazhang> Metrol: it is loads easier in (shhh!)Gutsy.
[05:50] <BluesKaj> unmuted =00
[05:50] <timbo__> I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does
[05:50] <blood> Right, Line was mute!  PCM and Master were unmuted - and there is no CD.
[05:50] <_GoRDoN_> So I quess that some file still points to that old hard drive but I have no idea about which. Any ideas
[05:50] <timbo__> anyone know how to fix it
[05:51] <blood> There are two master's:  "Master" and "Master M"
[05:51] <blood> Should both be unmuted?
[05:51] <BluesKaj> blood, do you have an IEC958 ctrl slider ?
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  Sorry, but I'm really not sure - is there a way to find out?
[05:52] <ceritus> the imic is recognized in kmix but how do I get sound out of it? pls?
[05:52] <strog_> hi
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  I'm a total newb.
[05:52] <chisdasvinto> this is my previous configuration that works on 9755, but now it doesn't: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/39877/
[05:52] <BluesKaj> use the right and left arrow keys to move across the ctrls
[05:52] <strog_> i just installed the nvidia-glx-new onto my system
[05:52] <strog_> and now kubuntu is lagging a lot
[05:52] <timbo__> I have two removable drives, one is a flash other is a WD 80 gig and i cant get kubuntu to see it but ubuntu does
[05:52] <timbo__> anyone know how to fix it
[05:52] <blood> Blues:  Yes, I am able to do that - and then I am able to toggle between unmute and mute.
[05:52] <strog_> it actually froze
[05:53] <strog_> is lagging a lot
[05:53] <blood> Blues:  00 reads for (Master, PCM, and Line)
[05:53] <deviance> Where are kopetes logs stores
[05:53] <deviance> stored*
[05:53] <villaael> Ok when I run sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg -high, I get an error that says there are conflicting actions -e (--control) and -r (--remove)
[05:55] <blood> Blues:  Should "Center" be unmuted also?  It has a color fill of white green and red just like Master.
[05:55] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??
[05:55] <pag> villaael, it's " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " NOT the " ..dpgk -reconfigure"
[05:56] <villaael> ah ha, thanks
[05:56] <pag> villaael, if you insist on writing them seperatly, the " sudo dpkg --reconfigure " might also work..
[05:57] <chisdasvinto> for me "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" doesn't help me to make the nvidia drivers works
[05:57] <blood> I'm going to unmute "Center," hopefully that doesn't harm anything.
[05:57] <deviance> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg is the reccomended method
[05:57] <deviance> It wont help them work, but you can restor your old drivers and make the machine work again
[05:58] <deviance> Thats if you have the wrong drivers.
[05:58] <chisdasvinto> it seems that the nvidia kernel module is not loaded on the boot
[05:58] <deviance> i.e you get a blank screen on boot
[05:58] <deviance> chisdasvinto: What happens when you boot?
[05:58] <blood> Blues:  Still not working though - the sound file just freezes when I try to play.
[05:59] <chisdasvinto> i got black, screen even with the old drivers. the ony way to load x server is with the vesa driver
[06:00] <deviance> What card do you have?
[06:00] <villaael> ok, got an API mismatch: Nvidia kernel has the version 1.0-7184 but this module has the version 1.0-9755
[06:00] <blood> Wow, this time that I typedi n alsamixer I have a few more options.
[06:00] <chisdasvinto> nvidia NV43 Geforce 6600 GT - 256 MB
[06:00] <deviance> Are you sure you have the correct drivers installed? Mine did the same, but when I enabled them through the kcontrol monitor settings they worked fine
[06:01] <deviance> You need the nvidia-glx-new, is that what you installed?
[06:01] <chisdasvinto> it was i got before, and it was working fine, but i installed the new driver from nvidia website and then the old drivers didn't works again
[06:01] <blood> So I just learned that I downloaded and installed Dapper Drake when there is a newer "Feisty?"  Will that fix my sound problems?
[06:02] <blood> To upgrade it?
[06:02] <Fleck> hi, i can't see how fast adept is downloading packages... only % :(
[06:02] <deviance> Hmm
[06:02] <deviance> I take it the new one diddn't work?
[06:02] <jpatrick> Fleck: clicked on details?
[06:03] <Fleck> where?
[06:03] <Fleck> there;s no suc button
[06:03] <jpatrick> next to the process bar?
[06:03] <Fleck> *there's
[06:03] <Fleck> one button - cancel download
[06:03] <chisdasvinto> both of them the new (100.14.19) or the old (9755) don't work right now
[06:04] <rysiek|pl> blood: most probably - yeah
[06:04] <blood> rysiek|pl:  is there a specific way to updgrade from this lesser version of Dapper Drake to the Feisty?
[06:05] <chisdasvinto> first when i installed the new driver i got a API mismatch error, but "dpkg-reconfigure" solve it
[06:05] <blood> rysiek|pl:  I'm a newb, and do not want to destroy anything.
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: you can dist-upgrade to Edgy and then to Feisty
[06:05] <chisdasvinto> since then, i alwayes got EE failed to load module, with the two drivers...
[06:05] <deviance> Blood make a few back ups
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: or you can clean-install feisty
[06:05] <rysiek|pl> blood: I would suggest the second method
[06:06] <blood> rysiek|pl:  It's just as stable as Dapper?
[06:06] <rysiek|pl> blood: you can save your personal data and settings simply by *not* formatting the /home partition during feisty's installation
[06:06] <jamili> does it matter if i burn feisty to rw or r?
[06:06] <rysiek|pl> blood: I would say it's even more stable :)
[06:06] <gnomefreak> jamili: no
[06:06] <deviance> He might not have it on a seperate partition
[06:06] <jamili> gnomefreak: k
[06:06] <gnomefreak> blood: upgrade from dapper to edgy than edgy to feist
[06:06] <gnomefreak> y
[06:06] <jamili> i'll install it tomorrrow then i believe
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> jamili: it actually might. some drives might have problems with rw's, although it's extremely unlikely
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  I just repaired this computer for a friend - the hard drive crashed and I replaced it - they didn't want to spend the money to buy a copy of windows so I put Linux on it.
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  In other words there is nothing I need to save.
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: good choice :)
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: then definitely go for a clean install
[06:07] <gnomefreak> blood: better off installing feisty instead of upgrade
[06:07] <blood> ryseik|pl:  Just DL and install it just like I did for Dapper (delete everything on hd when asked)
[06:07] <rysiek|pl> blood: aye
[06:08] <blood> thanks to all
[06:08] <blood> I'll try this out
[06:08] <rysiek|pl> good luck
[06:10] <ceritus> can anyone hlp me get a Griffin imic working in kubuntu? i've been google searching forever and have gotten nowhere help pls??
[06:12] <rewq> hello
[06:12] <ardchoille> I wonder how long a "sudo apt-get install *" would take
[06:12] <rewq> need some help
[06:12] <Yorokobi> ardchoille, you'd run into too many dependency problems
[06:13] <rewq> could anyone help me with apt-get update probs in kubuntu 7.10 beta???
[06:13] <villaael> ok, i followed the fix i found for the api mismatch, which was to edit linux-disabled-modules-common, but I'm still getting the api mismatch error. any ideas?
[06:13] <Yorokobi> rewq, see the topic: "Gutsy help _only_ in #ubuntu+1" :)
[06:13] <biopod> guys, can you please help me out with a radeon x1600 before i give up, start to cry and go to buy nvidia
[06:13] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: I don't think so, that's what a pm is for isn't it?
[06:14] <rewq> can you send me the full link
[06:17] <Yorokobi> ardchoille, there are packages (or, historically there have been) that conflict. Package A can't be installed with package P, for example.
[06:17] <ardchoille> Yorokobi: Ah, yeah, that's right.
[06:19] <ceritus> can anyone tell me how to change the device that ALSA uses?
[06:19] <ardchoille> !sound
[06:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:21] <biopod> !ati
[06:21] <arash> omg, does ubotu response differently in ubuntu/kubuntu irc chanel now??
[06:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <ghozala> HELP  I want an application to mount fat32 partion like the ntfs
[06:22] <Dr_willis> ghozala,  and the problem is?
[06:23] <Dr_willis> you can easially mount ntfs read/writeable. with the ntfs-3g tools/
[06:23] <arash> he wants to mount fat32
[06:24] <Alonea> hey, how do I mount my other hard drive? kubuntu used to mount it for me, but since I got this new hdd it hasn't. it is ntfs
[06:24] <arash> anyway, anyone know any application that can take a DVD movie in .iso format from hard drive and directly play the movie?
[06:24] <arash> Alonea, do you know about ntfs-3g ?
[06:25] <Alonea> arash: yeah, but i thought you don't need it really. i just want to copy files from it
[06:25] <Yorokobi> arash, xine and mplayer should be able to play DVD iso's, if not, you can always mount it
[06:25] <shukty> hi i have to edit a file using a text editor ... i forgot how the bash command to edit like administrator ... [ like gksudo  ]  can u help me cu all
[06:25] <arash> Alonea: You are correct
[06:25] <Azzie> Is it possible to install grub to a USB stick from windows?
[06:26] <robin_> hi, I just installed the latest beta of kubuntu. I already have enabled the nvidia 3d driver, but I can't find where I can enable compiz/fusion.
[06:26] <Alonea> arash: I just can't remember how to mount it. I thought it was mount /dev/hd0 or something like that
[06:26] <ceritus> i need help getting my griffin imic working on kubuntu help pls
[06:27] <arash> Alonea: aha, 'sudo mount <drive> <mountplace>' I think, im not 100
[06:28] <Alonea> hmm, thing is, I am not sure what kubuntu is calling my drive.
[06:28] <Yorokobi> shukty, if you're in X using Konsole, then 'kate filename' will work. If you need to be root to edit it, 'kdesu kate filename'
[06:29] <arash> Alonea: 'mount -l' I think
[06:29] <villaael> Ok, question: the nvidia driver installation script is telling that version 1.0-9755 is already installed on my system. Since that's the version its trying to install, there's no point installing again right?
[06:29] <villaael> Or should I in case something is still corrupted?
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: ok, I am going to guess its hda here, but it says specify filesystem type
[06:30] <arash> Alonea: filesystem type is NTFS, isn't it?
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: yeah
[06:30] <Alonea> arash: since xp won't take anything else. ^__^
[06:30] <Dr_willis> You can make XP use fat32
[06:30] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <ceritus> i need help changing alsa deviced anything anyone can suggest would be great
[06:31] <Alonea> Dr_willis: well, I like fat32, but I have a lot of files that are bigger than 4 gigs.
[06:32] <ceritus> has noone ever cganed the default alsa device?
[06:32] <ceritus> has noone ever *changed* the default alsa device?
[06:32] <Dr_willis> Alonea,  yep. thats an issue then.
[06:33] <waltercool> hi there!, someone know how make a multiboot dvd?? im making a ubuntu 7.10 compilation :P
[06:33] <arash> !alsa
[06:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:33] <arash> checked that one ceritus?
[06:33] <Alonea> Dr_willis: yup. .iso dvds.
[06:34] <[HaldriK] > hello
[06:34] <ceritus> the sound is running if i plug my headphones into the jack sound is played
[06:34] <Dr_willis> There is that tool that lets xp use ext2 partitions. :)
[06:34] <Alonea> arash: how would you specify on the cmd? mount /dev/hda -ntfs /media/ntfs ?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> its -t ntfs for the filesystem type
[06:34] <ceritus> the thing is that the jack is FUBAR so I have an imic from a previous life
[06:34] <arash> Alonea: you must begin with sudo too, since you must be root for mounting
[06:35] <Dr_willis> and /media/ntfs MUST allready exist
[06:35] <Alonea> Dr_willis: oh? that would be fun to do one day, but I don't need to mess up my windows at the moment
[06:35] <ceritus> i plug in the imic and it is recognized in aplay -l and in kmix
[06:35] <ceritus> but there is is no sound
[06:35] <Alonea> oh, already have sudo on there and I created ntfs folder a minute ago on there
[06:36] <ceritus> i figure i need to to change the device location in the sound system configuration but am not sure how
[06:36] <ceritus> it's driving me crazy
[06:36] <villaael> grr, X still won;t start. anyone know where the error log is off the top of your head?
[06:37] <Yorokobi> villaael, /var/log/Xorg.0.log (typically)
[06:37] <villaael> Thanks yorokobi
[06:37] <ceritus> can anyone help?
[06:38] <Alonea> ah damn...I can't seem to find my ntfs drive on here.
[06:38] <shukty> fine
[06:38] <shukty> tnx
[06:39] <Alonea> uh oh...ok, according to dmesg [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs error (device hda): read_ntfs_boot_sector(): Primary boot sector is invalid.
[06:39] <[HaldriK] > somebody has test 7.10 beta?
[06:39] <Alonea> and [ 1230.772000]  NTFS-fs warning (device hda): is_boot_sector_ntfs(): Invalid boot sector checksum.
[06:39] <Alonea> any ideas?
[06:40] <rewq> can any one help me with apt get problems
[06:40] <rewq> ???
[06:41] <villaael> ah ha...in my xorg log file it says the module nvidia (which is whats in xorg.conf as my driver entry) can't be found
[06:41] <bazhang> rewq: what's the problem?
[06:41] <rewq> i cant get connection
[06:41] <rewq> with apt-get
[06:42] <rewq> I have lan conection so I have internet
[06:42] <[HaldriK] > I have a problem on a msi laptop S300X, the installer stand at 87%, cd integrity are ok, filesystem are ext3
[06:42] <rewq> but no connection with servers
[06:42] <rewq> im on kubuntu beta
[06:42] <biopod> villaael: what card are you trying to setup? tomorw I'll proabably go to replace my ATI with nvidia, would like to know what to avoid.
[06:43] <villaael> GeForce Go 7300
[06:43] <bazhang> rewq: does the system recognize that you are connected to the internet? can you web browse, etc.?
[06:43] <villaael> The crappy thing is that it worked fine and I tried to put on a newer driver to speed up WoW :/
[06:43] <rewq> yes
[06:43] <biopod> villaael: thanks, i took it of my list.
[06:43] <villaael> And now I can't run X at all
[06:43] <rewq> im chating
[06:43] <rewq> in  can browse
[06:43] <biopod> oh...
[06:44] <rewq> but adept wont work
[06:44] <rewq> sudo apt-get update from shell
[06:44] <rewq> wont work eather
[06:44] <biopod> villaael: that's what happen when we fix what aint broken :P
[06:44] <bazhang> rewq: what error message do you get when you sudo apt-get update>
[06:44] <rewq> 1sek
[06:45] <shukty> apt-get install tor privory
[06:45] <villaael> biopod: tell me about it. I'm kicking myself for not being happy with the 20fps I was getting
[06:46] <rewq> I cant even copy paste from shell
[06:46] <biopod> villaael: you are in a better position then I am. I bought a brand new box, and the "only thing" i over looked was only the 2 hardest things to setup.
[06:46] <rewq> maybe touchpad probs
[06:46] <bazhang> villaael: I have that same card, and no problems here.
[06:46] <biopod> villaael: video and wifi.
[06:46] <bazhang> rewq: what is the error message?
[06:46] <bazhang> rewq: without that I cannot help you.
[06:47] <rewq> do know any comand
[06:47] <rewq> so i can copy the text from the shell
[06:47] <rewq>  and paste here
[06:47] <rewq> cause my touchpad dont do it
[06:47] <villaael> bazhang: what version of the drivers are you running? I downloaded the latest and its all screwed up
[06:48] <rewq> wait i getin my mouse
[06:48] <rewq> 1 sek
[06:48] <bazhang> the restricted drivers for kubuntu Gutsy--100.something something villaael
[06:49] <villaael> Oh, I'm running feisty. Thing they would still work? This is driving me nuts
[06:50] <bazhang> villaael: can't say about Feisty--under the beta I have had zero problems with this card--though I'm not running high fps games either...haha
[06:50] <villaael> i might step up to gutsy just to give it a shot
[06:50] <villaael> can't be any worse than it is now that's for sure
[06:51] <bazhang> villaael: but wait until 10/18 (haha); it's just too dangerous now...
[06:51] <rewq> ok no way I can copy paste the error message here:))
[06:51] <rewq> cray kubuntu
[06:51] <DarkWizzard> Guys I have a tricky one for you
[06:52] <Yorokobi> nah, Gutsy has been pretty stable; it just has a lot of updates every day :)
[06:52] <rewq> but in some words
[06:52] <rewq> it's stuck at 25%
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> I'm Using feisty fawn, and a few days ago I had 190 MB free, I didn't copy anything else on that partition, at least not something big, and now I only have 50 MB free
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> wth ?
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> I already did sudo apt-get clean
[06:52] <bazhang> rewq: sorry I can't help you then--you can't even type it?
[06:52] <villaael> updates are fine with me as long as it gets me running again
[06:52] <DarkWizzard> and it didn't get modyfied
[06:52] <rewq> ok wait...
[06:52] <villaael> can i update to gutsy with apt-get?
[06:53] <villaael> cause i'm stuck with just command line right now on that laptop and I'm nowhere near good enough to mount an iso and use it from command line
[06:53] <bazhang> villaael: yes sure, though it's a ton of updates once you get them.
[06:53] <ardchoille> villaael: You can but lots of people experience breakage doing it
[06:53] <rewq> here it is:
[06:53] <rewq>  Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security Release.gpg
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://it.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Translation-en_US
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to it.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://archive.canonical.com gutsy/partner Translation-en_US
[06:53] <rewq>   Could not connect to archive.canonical.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:53] <rewq> Err http://security.ubuntu.com gutsy-security/main Translation-en_US
[06:54] <rewq>   Could not connect to security.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[06:54] <ardchoille> !paste | rewq
[06:54] <ubotu> rewq: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:54] <villaael> anyone have the package name? searching for it but nothing so far
[06:55] <bazhang> rewq: sounds like a server issue, and not with your computer, you might want to check out #ubuntu-it
[06:55] <ardchoille> villaael: Which package?
[06:55] <rewq> any idea??
[06:55] <rewq> what i can do
[06:55] <villaael> ardchoille: gutsy beta
[06:55] <lovre> hi all. I need to read some text, but my monitor goes black if i dont touch my mouse for a while. How do i turn thiss off? (kubuntu)
[06:56] <ScorpKing> hi lovre. :)
[06:56] <ardchoille> villaael:  there isn't a package. you have to modify your sources.list file and do an upgrade
[06:57] <somad> #jogja
[06:57] <tretle> how do i install kde4 from gutsy?
[06:57] <ardchoille> tretle: kde4 is barely usable right now
[06:57] <bazhang> unusable
[06:58] <jhutchins> tretle: gutsy support is in #ubuntu+1
[06:58] <lovre> .
[06:59] <ScorpKing> lovre: in kcontrol - Apearance & Themes --> Screen Saver. increase the time.
[06:59] <lovre> ScorpKing: my screen server is disabled
[06:59] <jhutchins> lovre: or right-click the desktop.
[07:00] <ardchoille> lovre: Also, kcontrol > Peripherals > Monitor & Display > Power saving tab
[07:00] <lovre> ScorpKing: and its not screensaver what activates, itj just black screen
[07:00] <jhutchins> lovre: Powe save setting in your BIOS maybe?  OR what ardchoille said.
[07:00] <tretle> yeah
[07:00] <tretle> i want to see how far its come
[07:00] <lovre> ardchoille: no, that is set to 45 minutes
[07:00] <lovre> ardchoille: this happens in like 20 sec
[07:01] <Tm_T> !away > deviance|fps
[07:01] <tretle> will use gnome as my main desktop though
[07:01] <ardchoille> lovre: Then I would check BIOS settings
[07:01] <villaael> ardchoille: what do I need to add to sources.list? Can't seem to find that anywhere
[07:01] <lovre> ardchoille: if its set in bios than it would act same under windows, wouldnt it?
[07:01] <ardchoille> villaael: upgrading has the possiblity of breaking everything.. I don't feel comfortable  giving advice.
[07:02] <ardchoille> lovre: Unless windows has settings to override it
[07:02] <villaael> Understandable. I'm already broken though :)
[07:02] <lovre> ardchoille: ill look, be right back
[07:03] <ardchoille> villaael:  if you're already broken, you shouldjn't upgrade at all.
[07:03] <ardchoille> !upgrade
[07:03] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[07:04] <ardchoille> villaael: Gutsy is scheduled to be released in 11 days anywa
[07:04] <villaael> yeah, true
[07:04] <villaael> but at this point I won't be able to upgrade cause I can't even get X to start
[07:05] <ardchoille> villaael: You're better off getting the broken items fixed first.
[07:05] <ardchoille> villaael: if you've messed with xorg.conf, there's likely a backup file in /etc/X11
[07:06] <villaael> That's what I'm trying but everything I've found so far isn't working
[07:06] <villaael> And I did back up to my backup and still no luck
[07:06] <villaael> I do have an older one I guess I could try
[07:07] <lovre> nothing in BIOS about that
[07:07] <ardchoille> That's one of the things I feel ubiquity should do: backup xorg.conf before the user logs in
[07:07] <ardchoille> That and sources.list
[07:08] <LjL> it should also enable root but really make it a sandbox into a fake system :)
[07:08] <villaael> is there a default video driver other than nvidia I can use just to get back up and running?
[07:08] <toxicfume> hi all
[07:08] <ardchoille> LjL: Yes, I agree
[07:08] <Yorokobi> villaael, nv or vesa
[07:08] <ardchoille> villaael: for nvidia, there is the "nv" driver
[07:08] <toxicfume> I just installed kubuntu 7.04 on my computer with a Linksys wireless card (WPM54G), but after i installed, i cannot connect to any wireless network :( Can someone please help
[07:09] <ardchoille> !wifi
[07:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:09] <villaael> thanks, changed my driver entry to that and restarted. crossing my fingers
[07:09] <toxicfume> i tried looking in the wifidocs wiki, but nothing is displayed about this problem, my card supposedly works out of the box, but it doesn't connect :(
[07:10] <villaael> still no go. progress bar loaded, then immediately unloaded and shut down
[07:10] <ardchoille> villaael:  for future reference, no need to reboot.. you just need to restart xorg with: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:10] <villaael> that's what i meant, didn't actually do a restart
[07:10] <toxicfume> it doesn't display any wireless networks at all
[07:11] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: gimme a sec. getting a link...
[07:11] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: thanks
[07:11] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[07:12] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: you need the drivers.
[07:12] <villaael> starting to wish i had an install cd. wiping and starting over would be easier at this point
[07:12] <villaael> holy cow! I don't know what I did, but I have X!!
[07:12] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: but my card is a RT2500 chipset..not a broadcom
[07:13] <bazhang> villaael: yess!
[07:13] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: isn't it?
[07:14] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: not sure.
[07:14] <bazhang> time to dist-upg er upgrade!
[07:14] <villaael> bazhang: lol...I think I'll wait.
[07:14] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: my card WMP54G is rt2500
[07:15] <bazhang> villaael: just kidding around...
[07:15] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: dmesg | tail - any wifi errors?
[07:17] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: my linksys is bcm.
[07:17] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: it depends on the model too, what model is yours?
[07:19] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: not sure. will have to pull it out to check. is that safe?
[07:19] <alesan^> hi how can I prevent my X display to go "black" after a certain amount of time I do not touch the keyboard?
[07:19] <alesan^> the screen doens't even go in powersave, it gets only black, which is silly
[07:20] <bazhang> alesan^: screensaver preferences?
[07:20] <alesan^> no, the screensaver is disable
[07:20] <alesan^> d
[07:21] <Zorix> mine is worse, it goes to blank screen and never comes back
[07:22] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no no need :)
[07:22] <toxicfume> but thanks for the effort :)
[07:23] <New> I can't start krusader in root mode, dcopserver is already running error
[07:23] <toxicfume> can anyone help me with getting my linksys wireless pci adaptor to work?
[07:24] <NewCaledonia> i can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver
[07:25] <waltercool> someone know how do a dvd multiboot iso of linux?
[07:25] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: i lost connection. don't you need to load a driver for the card or something?
[07:26] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: howdo i? it says in the wiki that it's already in there for my card or something
[07:26] <NewCaledonia> i can't start my krusader in root mode because of dcopserver
[07:26] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: anything in the logs?
[07:28] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: what logs?
[07:28] <villaael> well, x started but now i'm having opengl problems and can't run anything requiring 3d.
[07:28] <bazhang> upgrade
[07:28] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: try dmesg | tail first. if nothing poke around in /var/logs/
[07:29] <bazhang> oops sorry for the page break--after 10/18
[07:29] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i did that but didn't notice anything wrong
[07:29] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i dont understand these logs :S
[07:29] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: hehe. that doesn't help much then. :P
[07:30] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: i just know that it is supposed to work (according to the wikis) butit doesn't
[07:30] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: can you pastebin /var/log/messages ?
[07:30] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: it's a different computer :S
[07:30] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: oops. :(
[07:31] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: anyting in the logs about 'unable to load blabla' or something like that?
[07:31] <toxicfume> oky wait
[07:31] <toxicfume> which log do i check?
[07:32] <ScorpKing> in /var/log/messages
[07:33] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no errors that i can see
[07:35] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: run lsmod | less . is there anything that look like it can be related to your card?
[07:35] <tretle> http://www.nuno-icons.com/images/estilo/raptor/
[07:35] <tretle> hope thats the new kde panel
[07:35] <tretle> :)
[07:36] <toxicfume> schiste: oaky wait
[07:37] <villaael> Anyone here run WoW with wine in gutsy?
[07:37] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay it's  huge list :S But i see rt2500 there which is my card for sure
[07:38] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: the card works then. can you manually connect to a wireless network?
[07:39] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: no i cant :/
[07:39] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: does it not see the networks or does it stop connecting at 28% ?
[07:40] <devianced> What language is the easiest for begginers to make programs in?
[07:40] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: earlier it was stopping at 28%, but now it just doesn't see any networks :/
[07:40] <Kachna> PHP
[07:40] <devianced> Programs not webpages
[07:40] <villaael> devianced: depends on what you want to do but perl and php are both pretty easy to use
[07:40] <devianced> I am good at PHP
[07:40] <ScorpKing> devianced: take time and learn something decent.
[07:40] <waltercool> devianced: basic
[07:40] <devianced> Nooo Applications, not websites
[07:41] <pjac-1> toda a vez que coloco o cursor do rato sobre um menu aparece da respectiva discrio. Alguem sabe como retirar essa ajuda???!!
[07:41] <waltercool> devianced: and next is pascal
[07:41] <devianced> >.<
[07:41] <villaael> Cobol even
[07:41] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: any ideas?
[07:41] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: i'm out of ideas. if it stops at 28% it's because of authentication problems.
[07:42] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: aw schucks :(
[07:42] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: maybe see what's in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:43] <lovre> how can i monitor system temperature?
[07:44] <ScorpKing> lovre: there are a few superkaramba scripts that can do that very easy. got that theme installed the other day?
[07:44] <kubuntu> hola
[07:44] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: the file interfaces doesn't exist :/
[07:45] <ScorpKing> it's /etc/network/interfaces
[07:45] <ScorpKing> must be there if you use *ubuntu.
[07:45] <lovre> ScorpKing: i coulnd get superKaramba to work. so i gave up on that
[07:46] <ScorpKing> lovre: it's in the universe repo
[07:46] <kubuntu> hello, i need help. emm.. how to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only.
[07:47] <ScorpKing> lovre: sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[07:48] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay no errors in that file
[07:48] <djdarkman_> how come apport-qt doesn`t notice strigi crashes?
[07:49] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: there won't be. is there - auto eth1 ?
[07:49] <villaael> alright...I give up. I'm back to X not starting in either kernel
[07:49] <villaael> I'm gonna wipe and reinstall I think
[07:49] <inaety> how can i convert mp4 to avi?
[07:50] <kubuntu> is there any other way to change the display setting coz its stuck at 640 x 480 only..
[07:50] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: yes there is auto eth1 and ther is auto ra0 too (which is my wireless adaptor)
[07:52] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: remove the options below ra0 (ESSID and so on). only put there - iface ra0 inet dhcp
[07:52] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: maybe it will pick up networks again but will get stuck at 28%
[07:53] <villaael> kubunt: when you go to display settings is 640x480 the only one available?
[07:53] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: okay let me try
[07:54] <ScorpKing> lovre: can you get superkaramba installed?
[07:55] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: yup it's stuck at 28% now
[07:55] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: how do i resolve this?
[07:56] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: that is because there is authentication on the router. mine does the same. not sure how to sort it out but i just use the router without any authentication for now.
[07:56] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: but it even happens on open networks :S
[07:57] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: hmmm. that suck. maybe it tries to authenticate on the open network.
[07:57] <Tstnz> toxicfume: I had the same problem... try to activate wireless by windows... and then restart in ubuntu...
[07:58] <toxicfume> Tstnz: activate wireless by windows, what do you mena?
[07:58] <Flare183> How do i configure Kontact to read and write to and from my windows live mail?
[07:58] <Tstnz> toxicfume: windows can control bios ... with applet for your laptop... try to connect wireless by win and then restart and go to ubuntu
[08:00] <toxicfume> Tstnz: i'm using a desktop, i'm just using a wireless pci adaptor inside the pc
[08:00] <jumped> after a 6 year search i've found the distro for me.....Kubuntu!!!  =D
[08:02] <Tstnz> toxicfume: sorry... I thought u with laptop
[08:04] <fdoving>  /away
[08:04] <fdoving> ops.
[08:05] <ScorpKing> toxicfume: have you tried a static ip for the wireless?
[08:05] <toxicfume> ScorpKing: not yet
[08:06] <ssmasud> is there any text viewer in ubuntu like notepad
[08:07] <ssmasud> ??
[08:07] <quixogre> ssmasud: kate
[08:07] <fdoving> ssmasud: kubuntu have kate, kedit, kwrite among others.
[08:07] <LjL> ssmasud: notepad is a text *editor*, actually. and in *kubuntu*, there is kate by default, in *ubuntu*, there is gedit
[08:07] <sub[t] rnl> greetings all
[08:08] <ScorpKing> hi
[08:08] <veselin> anyone to give me an advice about dual boot between ubuntu and winxp ?
[08:09] <ScorpKing> veselin: install xp first and then ubuntu
[08:09] <ubuntu_> hi all, isn't there a kio archiver? I need to backup few directories from k3b, I am on LiveCD
[08:10] <veselin> ScorpKing: i did so
[08:10] <ScorpKing> oh ok.
[08:11] <nybble> is there anyone here with experience installing kubuntu on a macbook?
[08:11] <ssmasud> i am using NAM in NS2, i am getting an xlib error,
[08:11] <ssmasud> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:11] <ssmasud> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:11] <ssmasud> nam: couldn't connect to display ":0"
[08:14] <toxicfume> Can someone please help me get my wireless pci adaptor working?
[08:14] <ubuntu_> hi all, can I just add content of / to DVD to back it up?
[08:15] <ubuntu_> I thought there would be something like tar KIO, but it works only the other way round
[08:15] <ubuntu_> it makes it possible to open tar files, not create them
[08:16] <squidy> is anyone here using compiz and xorg configured to dual head?
[08:17] <VSpike> ubuntu_: why not create a tar from the command line and back that up?
[08:19] <VSpike> ubuntu_: did you look at "Keep"?
[08:19] <kilrae> a normal user can just back up /, you won't have permission to read certain files
[08:19] <ubuntu_> VSpike I am on a liveCD won't that need enough disk space?
[08:20] <ubuntu_> HDDs are full
[08:20] <ubuntu_> kilrae I am backing up /
[08:20] <kilrae> sorry, that should say can't
[08:21] <ubuntu_> kilrae I am on a LiveCD wanting to backup my /, I can read ok (sudo)
[08:21] <VSpike> ubuntu_: I think may be stuck anyway then because a lot of DVD/CD writing software requires enough free space to make the image first
[08:21] <ubuntu_> VSpike I believe k3b is clever enough :)
[08:21] <VSpike> ubuntu_: you're probably right :)
[08:22] <ssmasud> does anybody know how to handle XLIB errors??..No Protocol specified
[08:23] <ubuntu_> archiving it doesn't work apparently because of the space
[08:23] <fdoving> ubuntu_: you can burn / to a dvd, but if you have anything there i suspect it'll be more than one DVD in size. might want to use some smart system with volumes etc. making files of 4.5G or something like that.
[08:23] <ubuntu_> I will just burn all those files I guess
[08:23] <ubuntu_> dont you know what permissions will I have to set would I ever want to come back to the previouus distro?
[08:24] <fdoving> ubuntu_: you need to use the archive feature of tar, to get the dev files, symlinks, full permissions etc.
[08:25] <fdoving> ubuntu_: there is also partimage and mondo rescue suite.
[08:25] <ssmasud> Xlib: connection refused by 0.0...does anybody have an idea??
[08:26] <ubuntu_> k3b asked me twice: I told not to follow links (to add links) and to insert FIFOs or something like that
[08:26] <fdoving> ssmasud: the xserver at 0.0 (the first X), refuses connections from clients (graphical applications). wrong user? X not running?
[08:26] <ssmasud> fdoving..how to i check that??
[08:27] <fdoving> ssmasud: is X running?
[08:27] <ssmasud> fdoving: how do i check that??
[08:29] <fdoving> ssmasud: 'pidof X' - if it says some number, it's running.
[08:29] <fdoving> ssmasud: if it's silent it's not running.
[08:29] <ssmasud> fdoving:yes its running
[08:30] <ICXCNIKA> I wonder if it would be better to run Xubuntu on my Inspiron 5100 instead of Kubuntu.
[08:30] <stpg> Hi
[08:31] <stpg> Can anyone help me? I neet to resize my root partition.
[08:31] <jussi01> !partition
[08:31] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:33] <mike> I have a problem with my IDE slave disk (hdb). It was a slave under Windows 2000 (only data no OS) and I successfully mounted it on /media in Ubuntu with ntfs-3g driver
[08:33] <mike> But now it seems it doesn't mount anymore
[08:34] <ssmasud> fdoving: it was a user problem....i switched...its running fine..thanks
[08:34] <stpg> i have already resize and move all other partiotions but have no success with root partition. i have boot from live cd start qtparted, but it don't allow to modify ext3 fs. I've remove journal and now i am able only to resize root partition, but i need to move it (is is last partiotion on disk).
[08:34] <mike> When I 'sudo mount -a' it says: Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory
[08:35] <fdoving> stpg: moving the starting point isn't supported if i recall correctly.
[08:35] <mike> fdisk -ls shows me the /dev/hdb* partitions
[08:36] <Ahmuck> what is the preferd snmp package in gutsy?
[08:37] <fdoving> Ahmuck: snmp? (net-snmp)? - do you mean the server?
[08:37] <fdoving> in that case, get 'snmpd'
[08:39] <stpg> fdoving: I have successfully moved /dev/sda6 ext3 partition just mount off it and move with gparted. Is where any difference in functionality between gparted and gtparted?(i cannot install gparted on live cd)
[08:39] <jhutchins> Ahmuck: snmp is overkill for anything short of a campus network.
[08:39] <stpg> fdoving: but i cannot move /dev/sda7 partiotion with qtparted
[08:40] <fdoving> stpg: did you move the startingpoint of the partition? - gparted is maintained, qtparted is not to that degree. i recommend the gparted livecd, it's 50MB.
[08:40] <fdoving> !gparted | stpg
[08:40] <ubotu> stpg: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:41] <jhutchins> gparted live CD is pretty easy.
[08:41] <mike> I tried to mount /dev/hdb1 with gparted but it says: Could not mount /dev/hdb1 on /media/Temp mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[08:42] <mike> fdisk -ls DOES see the /dev/hdb* partitions
[08:42] <stpg> ok thanks. i try gparted
[08:42] <mike> How can i mount ???
[08:49] <jhutchins> mike: what does mount tell you when you use it directly?
[08:50] <mike> ntfsfix /dev/hdb1 also Failed.  You should run chkdsk
[08:50] <jhutchins> mike: Is there a filesystem on it?
[08:50] <stpg> I have installed gparted instead of qtparted and it allows me to grow partition (move startpoint). Thanks!
[08:50] <jhutchins> mike: sounds pretty messed up.  You can get chkdisk from a recent Windows install disk.
[08:51] <mike> jhutchins: mount gives me a long list but without any /dev/hdb* entries
[08:51] <jhutchins> stpg: Don't try to resize the partition you're running from.
[08:51] <mike> the filesystem is ntfs
[08:51] <jhutchins> mike: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp
[08:52] <jhutchins> mike: Where did the filesystem come from?  How did it get corrupted?
[08:52] <melomane> hi,where can i find list of available packages in kubuntu dvd?
[08:52] <mike> fdisk -ls gives me HPFS/NTFS (three times) and W95 Ext'd (LBA) one time
[08:53] <melomane> i found packages in cd in many websites,but i need packages of dvd
[08:53] <stpg> jhutchins: yes i know. i am useing gusty live cd right now
[08:54] <mike> jhutchins: mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/hdb1 /media/Temp gives me the aforementioned 'Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory'
[08:55] <fdoving> melomane: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/7.04/release/
[08:55] <mike> filesystem came from a Windows2000 Server Edition installation. At first I could mount the different partitions but suddenly I got problems
[08:56] <fdoving> melomane: that is files on the dvd, in addition to the live system.
[08:56] <melomane> fdoving: thanks, but i cant file list of packages on a kubuntu dvd
[08:57] <fdoving> melomane: like, on -the- dvd?
[08:57] <melomane> fdoving: ha ,i found, i must see manifest, right?
[08:58] <mike> If I recall well, the first check i did when the problems occured was a ls -lAF /media. This gave me question marks
[08:59] <mike> I think the filesystem got corrupted when i wrote a file to it.
[08:59] <fdoving> melomane: everything under /casper/ is the live system things iirc.
[09:00] <mike> any hd repairing software ? Can gparted do some tricks ? Google came up with testdisk
[09:01] <mike> GParted shows an exclamation mark to the hdb* partitions.
[09:03] <mike> Info I get for fi. /dev/hdb5: filesystem ntfs, size: 29.29 GB, path /dev/hdb5, status: not mounted, first sector: 37961658, last sector: 99394154, total sectors: 61432497
[09:03] <mike> Warning: The device /dev/hdb5 doesn't exist
[09:07] <uga> re
[09:12] <mike> any suggestions ?
[09:15] <newsense> i got vista and kubuntu and want to resize my partitions, what should i use ?
[09:15] <uga> newsense: first, a good backup tool. Then parted
[09:16] <Black_Monkey> does ubuntu do read/write for vfat out of the box?
[09:16] <Lynoure> mike: if you still use MS Windows, test it from that side, if you haven't yet
[09:16] <newsense> parted cool
[09:16] <uga> newsense: resizing partitions that contain data isn't too obvious
[09:16] <uga> make sure you have backups. I lost data that way
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Black_Monkey: yes
[09:16] <newsense> uga: so its complicated ?
[09:16] <Lynoure> mike: the Linux ntfs writing is not yet 100% perfect.
[09:17] <Black_Monkey> DaSkreech: oh right... because I have a microSD card, formatted in my nokia mobile, and I can't seem to write to it :-S
[09:17] <newsense> uga: both clean installs so i have nothing to backup right now
[09:17] <akrot> ai
[09:17] <DaSkreech> and is unlikely to become so
[09:17] <uga> newsense: not complicated per se. But not sure how safe it is, especially when you have a non-linux formatted partition. I did that with qtparted a few years back ( a frontend for parted ), and the app crashed while on the process...
[09:17] <akrot> english russians?
[09:17] <newsense> err that isnt cool
[09:17] <uga> sure using parted is safer
[09:17] <uga> than using a gui for it
[09:18] <uga> and that was a few years back as I said
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Less moving parts the better
[09:18] <newsense> ill try parted, if worst comes to worst ill reinstall both os's and set the sizes i really want during install
[09:18] <waylandbill> has anyone tried "SystemRescueCD" ?
[09:18] <Lynoure> waylandbill: yes, some time back
[09:19] <mike> Lynoure: can I recover the ntfs partitions so that i can copy my data from it ?
[09:19] <waylandbill> Lynoure: is it worthwhile?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> mike: yes
[09:19] <newsense> uga: parted options pretty cryptic or am i safe "newbie to resizing partitions" to try it
[09:19] <DaSkreech> mike: Once it's not physically damaged
[09:20] <Lynoure> waylandbill: It's handy for what it is meant for :)
[09:21] <mike> DaSkreech: I found something about Testdisk tool. Is that something for me or do you have a suggestion ?
[09:21] <ScorpKing> mike: can you put that hd into a box with xp?
[09:21] <DaSkreech> I missed it did you lose your filetable?
[09:22] <Wolf23> some body help!!
[09:22] <DaSkreech> !help
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[09:23] <mike> ScorpKing: no
[09:23] <Lynoure> Wolf23: So, what do you need help with? (not promising anything yet)
[09:23] <Wolf23> Lynoure:  thanx, but i have gnokiii not working fine
[09:23] <ScorpKing> mike: that suck. HandyRecovery works well to get stuff back from a ntfs disk tho.
[09:24] <stpg> mike: i can suggest you Hiren's BootCD. It helped me several times to recovery data when i drop my partition table. It has many useful utils
[09:25] <Lynoure> Wolf23: sorry, I don't know anything about gnokii. Maybe someone will be able to help you though, if you tell them how it does not work...
[09:26] <uga> ouch, newsense left
[09:26] <uga> heh, wb
[09:26] <Wolf23> Lynoure:  thanx :)
[09:26] <uga> newsense: it was pretty simple iirc
[09:26] <uga> newsense: you can use the frontends though gparted/qtparted
[09:27] <newsense> install qtparted and resize that way, ive seen your skillz in here so i trust your judgement
[09:27] <newsense> uga:much appreciated btw
[09:27] <mike> stpg: ok I will evaluate that if there are no commandline tools or ubuntu packages for recovering ntfs partitions
[09:28] <uga> newsense: notice that you can't resize a partition while you're using it
[09:28] <newsense> uga:once i get my partitions setup the way i want im gold, been trying to get the money for windows os and finally got vista
[09:28] <uga> for example your /home
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !info testdisk
[09:28] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 550 kB, installed size 1784 kB
[09:28] <DaSkreech> mike ^^
[09:28] <newsense> uga: thats another unforseen problem, lol
[09:28] <uga> newsense: why don't you just install windows in a virtual machine
[09:29] <uga> like VirtualBox
[09:29] <uga> can the hardware handle it?
[09:29] <uga> ie, fast enough
[09:29] <newsense> uga: i want to give more disk space to my vista partition from this / part
[09:29] <uga> oh ok, so it's already installed
[09:29] <newsense> uga: like vmware ?
[09:29] <uga> yes, but VirtualBox is free
[09:30] <uga> unlike VMware Workstation
[09:30] <uga> you have vmware server and other alternatives, but vbox does nicely
[09:30] <newsense> uga: i only want windows to play cs:source, otherwise i dont run ms brand os's
[09:30] <uga> cs?
[09:30] <uga> c sharp?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> I forget are you akllowed to install vista in a VM?
[09:30] <newsense> uga: counter-strike
[09:30] <uga> oh lol
[09:30] <DaSkreech> counter strike
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: iirc vmware supports vista
[09:31] <newsense> uga: and i only own 98ser and vista ms os's
[09:31] <DaSkreech> uga: No
[09:31] <stpg> mike: there are free downloads (e.g. http://www.zshare.net/download/45098444367e/). I don't know if where are good linux tools for ntfs recovery. Hiren's boot cd halps me and it may halp you too8)
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: uhm... VirtualBox lists Vista on the OS list
[09:31] <DaSkreech> I mean the vista license does it allow you to?
[09:31] <uga> so it can be done
[09:31] <uga> DaSkreech: you're installing it on a machine, either real or virtual, so why not
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Not technical, legal
[09:31] <newsense> uga: i would love to just install vmware or wine and run the game that way, plays good in windows though :)
[09:31] <uga> as far as you install it on a single box
[09:31] <newsense> err :(
[09:32] <uga> DaSkreech: and he paid for it, so why give a d****mn about MS =)
[09:32] <uga> newsense: ??? on vmware you install windows
[09:32] <uga> it's windows
[09:33] <uga> so it must run fine, as far as it's fast enough
[09:33] <newsense> i meant cssource
[09:33] <uga> you need to put in the vista CD and install it first
[09:33] <uga> newsense: yes
[09:33] <uga> "plays good in windows though :)"
[09:33] <uga> vmware runs _Windows_
[09:33] <newsense> uga: i got vista and kubuntu and want to resize partitions atm
[09:33] <uga> not a clone
[09:33] <uga> okay
[09:36] <newsense> uga: sorry was thinking of some emulator i ran a few years back to run osx in debian
[09:36] <newsense> uga: had to have the image file of the osa for it
[09:42] <zeke> anyone know of any possible reason why I would have no icons in OpenOffice?
[09:42] <ubunturos> zeke: running Oo on?
[09:42] <zeke> Kubuntu
[09:42] <zeke> of course
[09:42] <zeke> gutsy
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: may be it is missing the kde bindings.
[09:43] <zeke> hmmm...what's the source name for those?
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: (sorry, assumed this was #kde)
[09:43] <ubunturos> zeke: not sure. Use Adept
[09:44] <zeke> alright
[09:44] <DaSkreech> zeke: You need the oo-kde package?
[09:45] <zeke> I think so...I have no icons and it's driving me nuts...fonts are all messed up too
[09:47] <zeke> I screwed up my last install of gutsy which was running fine for a month or two...I used the same disk and i'm having more problems than ever with this install
[09:48] <romuloo> a noob question: will be possible the online upgrade from kubuntu 7.04 to kubuntu 7.10?
[09:49] <ubunturos> zeke: may be you should wait till Oct 18 :)
[09:50] <Juacom99> does someone here program java??
[09:50] <sahin_h> romuloo: Yes, will be...
[09:50] <zeke> eh...the less hardware I have to carry around the better, and more of it works with gutsy than feisty
[09:50] <romuloo> thanks, sahin_h :)
[09:51] <romuloo> Juacom99: me
[09:51] <romuloo> i guess...
[09:51] <Juacom99> ok
[09:51] <pvandewyngaerde> anyone any experience with digital audio on kubuntu ?
[09:51] <ubunturos> Juacom99: I did (and dO)
[09:51] <Juacom99> ok
[09:51] <Juacom99> i got a little proyecy
[09:51] <Juacom99> a game
[09:52] <Juacom99> i wuoild like to make in java
[09:52] <Juacom99> *would
[09:52] <sahin_h> romuloo: I found a page for you, but it's wise to wait for the final version.
[09:52] <sahin_h> romuloo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[09:52] <Juacom99> but i don't want to make it alone
[09:52] <bjwebb> hi!
[09:52] <zeke> also, a symptom of this recent install...pressing the power button does not bring up the shutdown options
[09:53] <bjwebb> is gutsy's kde4 useable yet?
[09:53] <romuloo> sahin_h: i'll wait
[09:53] <Dr_willis> kde4 is not useable yet.. I think. :)
[09:53] <zeke> hoo ha...kde integration for OOo worked...thanks
[09:53] <pvandewyngaerde> no bjwebb
[09:53] <sahin_h> bjwebb: For development? Yes. For everyday use no.
[09:53] <Juacom99> basicli i'm trying to make a team to depelop the idea
[09:54] <Juacom99> is a basic game not to complicated
[09:54] <bjwebb> hmmm okay
[09:54] <bjwebb> have they got a meanu bar now atleast?
[09:54] <zeke> alright, one problem fixed...2 to go