[07:02] <Kilos> greetings za peeps
[07:14] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[07:15] <pavlushka> Kilos: I got a line for you, "I have kilos to go before I sleep" :)
[07:36] <dlPhreak> Greetings
[07:40] <Kilos> lol
[07:41] <nzoueidi> o/
[07:42] <Kilos> o/
[07:43] <Kilos> what happened to the nick
[07:43] <nzoueidi> hahaha I like this one
[07:43] <Kilos> haha
[07:44] <nzoueidi> but for sure I miss my old one
[07:45] <Kilos> as long as i know who you are thats fine
[07:46] <nzoueidi> hahaha :D btw how you feel today? better?
[07:49] <Kilos> yes im fine ty
[07:50] <Kilos> now i can say i have tried that too
[07:50] <Naeil> the most important thing, that you are okay that what matters
[07:51] <Kilos> everything is a learning experience
[07:51] <Kilos> apart from getting tired easier i actually feel better than before
[07:52] <Naeil> glad to hear that!  No police record.
[08:01] <pavlushka> superfly: How is you and your everyone, :)
[08:01] <superfly> pavlushka: busy, but things are going well.
[08:01] <Kilos> hahahahaha superfly well done
[08:06] <Kilos> i go make coffee
[08:07] <Kilos> wbb
[10:43] <sakhi> Good afternoon ubuntu-za
[10:47] <sakhi> Any recommendations for "good" South African VPS companies? exclude->Afrihost,Web-Africa,IS/DD,Hetzner,Mweb.
[11:47] <superfly> sakhi: no such thing
[11:47] <Kilos> night all of you. sleep tight
[12:28] <chesedo> lol
[16:30] <pavlushka> ahoy ZA!
[18:33] <pavlushka> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/whoopsie/+bug/1629043, the package may be apport not whoopsie?


[11:39] <snap-l> Goodmorning
[11:39] <rick_h> morning
[11:40] <snap-l> I have no scientific basis for this theory, but I think my computer video runs faster over HDMI
[11:41] <snap-l> It just feels snappier today
[11:41] <rick_h> vs vga?
[11:41] <snap-l> dvi
[11:42] <snap-l> I also attribute this to a phenominon I noticed whenever listening to remastered audio
[11:42] <snap-l> I'd suddenly hear things, and think " wow, this remaster is really making things pop"
[11:42] <snap-l> only to listen to the old version and realize it was there all along, I was just listening more carefully
[11:42] <snap-l> phantom-awesome.
[11:44] <snap-l> could be the card as well not having to do something or other
[11:46] <snap-l> Again, nothing in reality to base this assertion
[13:34] <snap-l> I <3 crashes related to video drivers.
[13:35] <snap-l> Making me think twice about the AMD card.
[13:35] <rick_h> how does one know that it's related to the video card?
[13:35] <brousch> Intel or DIAF
[13:35] <snap-l> One sees segfaults in chrome, X server, compiz, etc.
[13:35] <snap-l> Intel can DIAF
[13:36] <rick_h> heh, intel or bust on laptops
[13:36] <rick_h> but I'm enjoying my 3 monitor hookup on my nvidia on the desktop
[13:36] <snap-l> Yeah, Intel is great if you don't care about graphics
[13:36] <rick_h> but care about battery life and crashing :P
[13:37] <snap-l> Yep
[13:37] <snap-l> I have a beta driver installed now
[13:37] <snap-l> Price I pay for a newer card
[13:37] <snap-l> Didn't have as much problem with the 5450, but it's a slow-mo-fo
[13:37] <snap-l> 7750 is proving crashy
[13:38] <rick_h> 660ti works no problems :)
[13:38] <snap-l> But that said, I'm overall pretty pleased
[13:38] <snap-l> Yeah, I'll bet. If I spent as much on my video card as I did on my past 3 computers I'd be happy too. ;)
[13:39] <snap-l> Actually 660ti is not as expensive as I thought
[13:39] <rick_h> you buy $70 computers
[13:39] <rick_h> ?
[13:39] <snap-l> Well, I did buy two RasPis
[13:39] <snap-l> ;)
[13:39] <rick_h> oh now that's cheating and you know it
[13:39] <snap-l> heh
[13:40] <snap-l> I thought it was a more expensive card
[13:40] <snap-l> damn model numbers
[13:40] <rick_h> yea, I mean I didn't shoot the moon on graphics, just the rest of it
[13:41] <rick_h> though it does appear to be 2x the ati one. Figured it'd be closer
[13:43] <snap-l> http://www.microcenter.com/product/406092/HD7750-DCSL-1GD5_AMD_Radeon_HD_7750_DirectCU_Silent_1024MB_GDDR5_PCIe_30_x16_Video_Card
[13:43] <snap-l> That's the one that I have
[13:43] <rick_h> gotcha
[13:43] <snap-l> Wanted something without a fan on it
[13:45] <snap-l> Not like the rest of the computer is silent or anything, but for some reason I have this thumb-sucking idea that I needed a silent video card. :)
[13:53] <brousch> Got a survey call from the "HP Mirosoft Team". I totally destroyed their scripted questions
[13:54] <rick_h> at least it wasn't the HP Microsoft Oracle team :P
[13:58] <brousch> I love questions about my datacenter. It's 2 dell server towers and a Synology NAS
[13:59] <brousch> And my network infrastructure is a single 48 port 100mbps switch
[14:02] <rick_h> lol
[14:09] <brousch> My database infrastructure is Access97 and Postgres
[15:19] <rick_h> gentlemen! start your linters! http://www.logilab.org/blogentry/163292
[18:13] <snap-l> Interesting listening to a song about the 1990s gulf war twenty years later
[18:14] <snap-l> (Hexx - Fire Mushrooms in case anyone is wondering)
[18:35] <greg-g> snap-l: always interesting to hear those old songs saying things people didn't want to believe were true, and now we know they are
[18:35]  * greg-g doesn't know that song
[18:35] <greg-g> but in general
[18:42] <jrwren> is that anything like listening ot songs about the 92 riots 21yrs later?
[18:42] <jrwren> LA92!!!!
[18:43] <greg-g> jrwren: nice
[18:51] <brousch> Damn this celery queue on Windows is annoying to set up. I need celery which needs rabbitmq which needs erlang
[18:51] <rick_h> celery works with redis, or a database even
[18:51] <brousch> redis has some unsupported windows port
[18:51] <rick_h> I just got through changing the bookie celery use from db to redis which is what I'm working on landing soon
[18:51] <brousch> For database I'm stuck with sqlite or I have to install a real DB
[18:51] <rick_h> right now, bmark.us uses postgresql for it
[18:52] <rick_h> but it can use sqlite (single worker though :/) or mysql
[18:52] <brousch> It seems like a lot of work for a queue
[18:52] <rick_h> and the celery back end can be on a different machine
[18:52] <rick_h> brousch: it can also use amazon's SQS, though there was a bug when I tried it a couple of years ago
[18:53] <rick_h> shoot, there are redis as a service places
[18:53] <brousch> I'm going for more compact, not more spread out
[18:53] <rick_h> you can host it on linux somewhere else and talk to it from windows
[18:53] <brousch> I want something I can install and run localhost
[18:53] <rick_h> postgres has a nice windows install these days?
[18:54] <rick_h> or keep having fun trying to get erlang/rabbitmq on windows
[18:54] <rick_h> feels a bit "damn I can't get this hemi to fit into my go-kart" to me :P
[18:54] <brousch> The instructions aren't bad, but it's a lot of stuff to keep track of between dev and prod
[18:55] <jrwren> brousch: i hate to suggest mysql
[18:55] <brousch> maybe i should put rabbit/redis on a linux vm
[18:55] <jrwren> but it really is easy to run out of process, but still uninstalled on windows.
[19:01] <Blazeix> i ran redis on windows a while back, seemed fairly painless
[19:02] <brousch> Same amount of pain as rabbitmq on Windows, but less supported
[19:02] <Blazeix> even had c# code talking to it
[19:02] <Blazeix> oh, well i don't know about the support, but it was trivial to connect to it and start storing data
[19:02] <Blazeix> this was for local development, and maybe ~20 concurrent users
[19:03] <Blazeix> so not a seriously hammered app
[19:03] <brousch> I won't have more than 20 users in this
[19:06] <brousch> Actually I can only use 1 worker for this, so sqlite might be good enough
[19:07] <greg-g> oh god: https://github.com/kennethreitz/autoenv
[19:07] <rick_h> greg-g: yea, that came up at pyohio
[19:07] <brousch> If it's not enough, I'll set up rabbit on linux
[19:08] <greg-g> rick_h: in a "never ever ever do this" kind of way?
[19:08] <rick_h> greg-g: as in some guy was "I love this autoenv thing, I just wish it would do XX" and Kenneth was there going "I've thought about that"
[19:08] <rick_h> Followed by "...you wrote it?"
[19:08] <greg-g> haha
[19:09] <rick_h> gotta love conferences
[19:09] <greg-g> :) yep
[19:09] <brousch> That was funny
[19:09] <rick_h> but yea, it's not my cup of tea
[19:09] <brousch> Jace got all wide-eyed
[19:09] <greg-g> I came across it via http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2013/08/06-High_security/
[19:09] <rick_h> I'm pretty much anti-magic
[19:09] <rick_h> hah
[19:10] <rick_h> yea, I think Jace had a good time at the conference.
[19:10] <rick_h> was fun to hang out with a first-timer
[19:16] <brousch> He had a lot of good questions
[20:40] <brousch> Using Django with Python3.3 in my newest application
[20:59] <snap-l> any particular reason for this? :)
[21:01] <brousch> Because I am awesome
[21:01] <brousch> I need this to stick around for a few years without having to re-write it for PYthon3
[21:10] <snap-l> Be careful what you wish for. :)


[01:40] <lopta> It might be time.
[02:24] <lopta> I need to download a new installation image and nuke-and-pave my daughter's PC.
[02:25] <lopta> It boots, eventually, and I can log in but I don't get a desktop (beyond just the root window wallpaper)
[02:32] <lopta> Perhaps I'll give Lubuntu a try.
[12:32] <xubuntu91d> buen dia, disculpen xubuntu 18.04 no me permite actualizar paquetes
[12:33] <xubuntu91d> da error en los repositorios
[12:36] <diogenes_> !es xubuntu91d
[12:36] <diogenes_> !es | xubuntu91d
[13:50] <st-gourichon-fid> Hello. I experience a few random bugs in Xubuntu 18.04 related to lightdm when switching user /  unlocking session.
[13:50] <st-gourichon-fid> Especially, I experience this bug several times a day: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1776475
[13:50] <st-gourichon-fid> These never happened in 16.04
[22:11] <xubuntu39d> what is needed to have the clock time set automatically when running live sessions of 18.04?
[22:46] <n-iCe> hi
[22:46] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:46] <n-iCe> aright
[22:46] <n-iCe> upgrading xubuntu
[22:47] <knome> hello.
[22:48] <n-iCe> ¿llop
[22:50] <knome> ˙ollǝɥ


[02:13] <Takyoji> Woo, 197 users in Arduino and nobody can answer a friggen primitive question
[02:14] <Takyoji> 197 users in #arduino*


[17:03] <Guest74988> and does Ubuntu have a default IRC client? if so.. which program might that be?
[17:03] <crizis> dr_willis, nah, it's broken for fgrlx-updates package
[17:03] <Guest74988> crizis: post release
[17:03] <dr_willis> the default im client in ubuntu can do irc
[17:04] <Guest74988> dr_willis: I did but I cannot understand the issues
[17:04] <crizis> Guest74988: yeah exactly that one. it won't work. you can install that version from command line though: "sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates"
[17:04] <dr_willis> then theres freendodes web chat
[17:04] <crizis> Guest74988: non-post-update version does install with additional drivers, but if you're not afraid of that one apt line, install newer ones ^^
[17:04] <Guest74988> crizis: oke and do I need special PPA's for that too?
[17:04] <crizis> nope
[17:05] <crizis> stable driver is catalyst 11.8, fglrx-updates ("post release") is catalyst version 12.4
[17:05] <Guest74988> crizis: oke thanx I will try!
[17:06] <crizis> .. then just boot after it's done
[17:06] <Guest74988> crizis: fglrx-updates is already the newest version
[17:06] <Guest74988> oke I need to go for a sec.. am back in a few mins
[17:06] <crizis> ok, well, should work then after boot. maybe additional drivers managed to install it anyway
[17:10] <genii-around> TiZ: Apologies on lag. It seems the module responsible (usbcore) is now compiled into the kernel and it nis not possible to reload it on the fly with new parameters. You can however still set it not to suspend by adding module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend = -1   into the /etc/sysctl.conf where it will take effect next boot.
[17:11] <rabbi1> i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?
[17:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> win 5
[17:12] <OpenIndianaVbox> sorry
[17:13] <Snappo> Hello, I just installed the latest daily build of Ubuntu 12.10, and I cant't boot, I get an error that says "Unrecognized file system" and a grub prompt
[17:13] <Snappo> currently running a live session from USB
[17:14] <crizis> Snappo, #ubuntu+1
[17:14] <Snappo> ok
[17:14]  * dr_willis takes a note to not update his 12.10 box today.... ;)
[17:15] <BluesKaj> Snappo, grub rescue prompt ?
[17:15] <TiZ> genii-around: I added usbcore.autosuspend=0 to the boot command line, and... it seemed to work for a bit, but when my boss really dug his finger into the touchscreen, it stopped working. Darn my tiny hands and his giant hands.
[17:17] <rabbi1> i have installed ibus, and added language support required and Keyboard input method is selected to 'ibus' in language Support, but still i am unable to select the required language in ibus preferences.... any suggestion ?
[17:17] <Marezz> Is it a good idea to install 12.04 on single core athlon64 @1.8GHz, 2GB ram?
[17:18] <bazhang> rabbi1, install them in language support
[17:18] <BluesKaj> Snappo, a grub rescue prompt or an actual grub menu ?
[17:18] <graciano> hi
[17:19] <rabbi1> bazhang: installed
[17:19] <BluesKaj> Marezz, shouldn't be a problem
[17:19] <OpenIndianaVbox> win 2
[17:19] <rabbi1> not showing in select input methods :( to add
[17:19] <bazhang> rabbi1, then restart ibus
[17:19] <rabbi1> bazhang: restart is also don
[17:20] <bazhang> rabbi1, what about ibus-setup
[17:20] <rabbi1> i infact restarted the system
[17:20] <rabbi1> bazhang: under ibus-setup -> input method -> select input method is not showing the language installed :(
[17:21] <bubuntoid> are there xsd schemes available for ubuntu?
[17:21] <bazhang> rabbi1, restart ibus, not the system
[17:22] <rabbi1> bazhang: installed the language, selected the keyboard input method to ibus, then restarted ibus, din't work, so restarted the whole system, just in case. but still cant find the language installed  \
[17:23] <bazhang> rabbi1, thats odd. it works fine here
[17:23] <rabbi1> bazhang: is there anything to install with ibus any extra plugin or something ?
[17:23] <rabbi1> or am i missing some libraries ?
[17:23] <RichardRaseley> What is the recommended way to make my iptables rules persistant on 12.04?
[17:24] <bazhang> rabbi1, not that I know of
[17:26] <rabbi1> bazhang: im-config is required ?
[17:26] <kimdw> hi all
[17:26] <kimdw> Hi all. I can not delete the characters and move the cursor with the arrows in the shell of gvim (guipty). You can help me please? I tired to set "t_ku,t_kd,t_kr,t_kl" but to no avail.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> RichardRaseley: here is one way: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-save-iptables-rules-or-settings/
[17:32] <bubuntoid> are there some XML and XHTML schemes available for ubuntu?
[17:32] <RichardRaseley> ActionParsnip: Thank you
[17:33] <jrib> RichardRaseley: you can just use the iptables-perisistent package. See ubottu's !iptables factoid for alternatives that only load rules when an iface is activated
[17:34] <RichardRaseley> jrib: Thank you
[17:35] <RichardRaseley> jrib: What is a "factoid"?
[17:36] <OpenIndianaVbox> !brain | RichardRaseley
[17:36] <RichardRaseley> !iptables
[17:37] <RichardRaseley> Cool, thanks
[17:39] <rbrooks> is there way to opt out of amazon search install on ubuntu?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> rbrooks, you running 12.10
[17:40] <OpenIndianaVbox> rbrooks: uninstall the lens
[17:40] <rbrooks> no lens gotcha, thanks
[17:41] <rbrooks> i hope they make lots ov money on this
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> yo nigraz
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> anyone get their iphone5 to work with ubuntu
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> or have any suggestions on drivers to install?
[17:42] <sewuuuuu> !iphone
[17:42] <rbrooks> work how?
[17:42] <bazhang> !language | sewuuuuu
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> every minute it so my 12.04 install keeps redetecting the device
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> or so*
[17:43] <rbrooks> thats awesome
[17:43] <rbrooks> dnk that was possible
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> if you like seeing the ugly dock
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> i do not
[17:43] <sewuuuuu> however
[17:43] <rbrooks> iphone 5  badass gratz
[17:44] <sewuuuuu> it's a nice device
[17:44] <rbrooks> ^
[17:44] <rbrooks> looks like it even good battery life
[17:46] <RichardRaseley> I am having trouble opening up an inbound TCP port on Ubuntu Server 12.04.  But for my desktop it does
[17:49] <OpenIndianaVbox> AlexPortable: no, you are discussing a feature in 12.10, really you should be in #ubuntu+1
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> hrmmm
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> if it's not an ad
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> what is it
[17:53] <OpenIndianaVbox> sewuuuuu: seriously, don't bother
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> you guys are sackriding too hard
[17:53] <sewuuuuu> I agree with AlexPortable
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> not that classy
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> tbh
[17:54] <OpenIndianaVbox> sewuuuuu: uninstall the lens then
[17:54] <sewuuuuu> Okay
[17:56] <devin_> hey I am working on a project where I need to download source code linux from kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/ and I need to compile it
[17:56] <OpenIndianaVbox> devin_: ask in ##linux
[17:57] <devin_> OpenIndianaVbox: I am using ubuntu though
[17:57] <bekks> devin_: Then do it, in first instance.
[17:57] <bekks> Where's the specific problem?
[17:57] <bazhang> devin_, thats not an ubuntu support issue
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang: well my specific question is how do I edit the name from uname -r from generic to something else
[17:58] <Guest51195> Any idea how to fix streaming through vlc problem? Error: lua demux error: Couldn't extract youtube video URL, please check for updates to this script t
[17:58] <bazhang> devin_, you got plenty of answers the last time you were here. read the links given to you
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang bekks OpenIndianaVbox Is that in the configs????
[17:58] <bekks> devin_: No.
[17:58] <devin_> bazhang: I know I did, I found a better link I think
[17:59] <usr13> Guest51195: You're not grying to stream something you don't have, are you?
[17:59] <usr13> Guest51195: Download it first.
[17:59] <Guest51195> usr13, I won't the fix not work around.
[18:00] <Guest51195> usr13, want *
[18:00] <usr13> Guest51195: Oh, I didn't know vlc would do that.
[18:00] <intrader> I don't understand why the su command fails in the term application. I am providing my usual password and I get 'su: Authentication failure. I am running ubuntu 12.04
[18:00] <Guest51195> usr13, It does. Nice thing for watching fullscreen youtube on low ends like netbooks.
[18:00] <OpenIndianaVbox> intrader: root is disabled by default, you are meant to use sudo
[18:01] <devin_> bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox This is the link I used, it looks about right
[18:01] <usr13> Guest51195: Try and play it first.  Does it play?
[18:01] <xine> intrader: sudo -i  gives you a root shell after typing in your user password
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: There is no link. And even if it looks right - unless you have a specific ubuntu issue, we cant help you, I'm afraid.
[18:02] <devin_> bekks bazhang OpenIndianaVbox : So all i need to do now or before I compile is figure how to change the string generic in uname -r
[18:02] <Guest51195> Yes. It does. Nothing wrong with the link. Mplayer also fails at streaming. They were working fine few days ago.
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: You cant change the output of uname -t
[18:02] <intrader> OpenIndianaVbox, I am trying to install xampp - the instructions for installation say that I need to login as root. I will try sudo -i. Thanks xine
[18:02] <bekks> devin_: You cant change the output of uname -r :)
[18:03] <devin_> bekks: http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/02/how-to-compile-kernel-from-kernelorg-in.html
[18:03] <bekks> devin_: And it isnt needed to change it to compile the kernel sources.
[18:03] <bazhang> intrader, xampp is not supported use lamp
[18:03] <bazhang> !xampp > intrader
[18:03] <bekks> AND it is described somewhere in help.ubuntu.com on how to compile vanilla sources for Ubuntu.
[18:03] <devin_> bekks: No I know I don't have to inorder to compile, It is possible, I have seen the outputs as examples on my assignment, but I think it is in the configs
[18:04] <bekks> bazhang: Am I right that he's been given those links already?
[18:04] <usr13> Guest51195: Run vlc from terminal to see if you get any clues.
[18:04] <bazhang> bekks, yes
[18:04] <bazhang> devin_, read all the links.
[18:04] <Guest51195> usr13, posted the error in my first message already.
[18:04] <bekks> devin_: Whatever you think - the output of uname -r is in no config in the kernel.org sources.
[18:04] <bekks> bazhang: thanks
[18:04] <intrader> what is the difference between lamp and xampp?
[18:05] <OpenIndianaVbox> !lamp | intrader
[18:05] <devin_> bazhang: I did, but this is an advanced project and there is no simple walkthrough for it
[18:05] <zykotick9> !xampp | intrader
[18:05] <bekks> devin_: You didnt - then you'd know that you dont have to mess around uname -r at all.
[18:05] <usr13> Guest51195: Ok forget it, (I just got here).  Take it up with youtube or vlc, (it's not a Ubuntu issue more-than-likely).
[18:05] <xangua> !mainline | devin_ get your new kernel, be happy :)
[18:06] <xangua> devin_: on your own risk of course*
[18:06] <bazhang> xangua, thats not what he's asking for
[18:06] <sameerynho> does ubuntu one offer any ssh or rsync support
[18:06] <devin_> bekks: I know I don't have to in order for functionality. But I have to because thats what my assignment is
[18:06] <bazhang> sameerynho, try asking in #ubuntuone
[18:06] <sameerynho> bazhang: thanks
[18:07] <Guest51195> usr13, I told you that mplayer also fails so I am not sure does it any more or likely vlc issue.
[18:07] <xangua> bazhang: he only wants to install a recent kernel or to cheat his teacher by 'changing the output of uname -r', does not¿
[18:07] <intrader> Thanks for your help and info!
[18:07] <bazhang> xangua, not quite, no
[18:08] <bekks> devin_: However - the output of uname -r is not configurable, whatever your assignment is. And all the rest is described in the links you have been given, as I was told.
[18:09] <devin_> xangua: I already did that, I am not doing this for functionality, I am doing this for a project. I did the main line update as part I now part II I need to you linux source code from kernel.org and comile it myself and change the output of uname - r from 3.2.2 -generic to 3.2.2-DGL
[18:09] <devin_> bekks: I know I am not asking about compiling anymore, I need to figure out how to modify to change my kernel name
[18:10] <bekks> devin_: Which is not an Ubuntu issue.
[18:10] <devin_> bekks: Ok, so you don't know
[18:10] <bekks> devin_: I do know, but it isnt an Ubuntu issue.
[18:10] <OpenIndianaVbox> devin_: this channel is just for support issues
[18:10] <devin_> bekks: LOL SO JUST TELL ME
[18:11] <usr13> devin_: They did.  Try ##linux
[18:11] <grkblood> sometime recently, i'm assuming after an update, the vga port on my laptop stopped working. now when I plug in my external monitor the screen displays the laptop screen for quick flash and then goes back to black. anyone know what this problem is from?
[18:12] <usr13> grkblood: Ctrl-Alt-F5  #And what do you see?
[18:13] <grkblood> usr13, i forgot to add that when I plug in my external monitor my laptop screen also goes black
[18:13] <usr13> grkblood: If you get a console login, it is more-than-likely a video driver issue, in which case you can: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[18:13] <grkblood> usr13, the command line prompt
[18:14] <usr13> grkblood: Login and issue above command.
[18:14] <usr13> grkblood: sudo
[18:14] <OpenIndianaVbox> usr13: you're assuming he has a xorg.conf
[18:14] <isopov> Hello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?
[18:14] <grkblood> im using xrandr
[18:15] <usr13> OpenIndianaVbox: Stating the obvious is often helpful, (but not always).
[18:16] <user82> hi. i have sort of a problem. i need to use the boot parameters "acpi=off" and "noapic" to get my gpu running properly but then my sound card is not detected(which 100% works with this exact ubuntu version). does anyone have an idea?
[18:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> user82: knowing the gpu would help
[18:17] <grkblood> usr13, that did not fix the problem
[18:17] <usr13> grkblood: Did you get an error?
[18:17] <usr13> grkblood: Did you reboot?
[18:18] <BluesKaj> user82, maybe you just need to reload the soundcard module/driver , which card is it ?
[18:18] <usr13> grkblood: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  #Is this the command you used?
[18:18] <grkblood> usa_today, can I not just to ctrl-alt-backspace?
[18:18] <grkblood> do*
[18:19] <usr13> grkblood: Crtl-Alt-Backspace does nothing.
[18:19] <grkblood> k, ill reboot
[18:20] <usr13> grkblood: From the console, Ctrl-Alt-Delete  #Will reboot.
[18:20] <BluesKaj> user82, run aplay -l  to find the soundcard name
[18:20] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: Nvidia gt 610
[18:20] <bekks> usr13: thats wrong.
[18:21] <OpenIndianaVbox> user82: sounds new, is this an optimus system?
[18:21] <bekks> That will kill the xserver, but will not reboot.
[18:21] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: let me check. BluesKaj the soundcard is not detected in aplay
[18:21] <usr13> bekks: What is wrong?
[18:21] <bekks> usr13: ctrl alt backspace kill X, but does not reboot.
[18:22] <zykotick9> bekks: fyi c+a+backspace hasn't worked by default for a while now...
[18:22] <ubunnytu> Hi all, for starters, thanks to everyone and the world for giving us linux. I've occasionally used ubuntu for about a decade now and it's come a long way. Here's my question: is it possible to customize the guest account, e.g. change UI text size, indicator applets and program icons is unity?
[18:22] <usr13> bekks: That is not what I said.  I said that if he was in console mode, (tty6), Ctrl-Alt-Delete would reboot.
[18:22] <genii-around> !nozap
[18:22] <genii-around> Hm
[18:22] <bekks> usr13: Then I just misread you, I apologize.
[18:23] <bekks> zykotick9: I know :)
[18:23] <zykotick9> genii-around: !dontzap seems to have been removed both factoid and wiki page
[18:23] <usr13> bekks: And if you scroll up, I told him the exact thing you just .... ok.  NP
[18:23] <zykotick9> bekks: ok, sorry.
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> Hello there! Anyone knows a good Database Modelor for Ubuntu?
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> Modeler*
[18:23] <user82> BluesKaj: i cannot find it with lshw either
[18:23] <JoelAlejandro> If possible, something that is Database-abstracted
[18:23] <genii-around> zykotick9: Hm.
[18:23] <user82> it is onboard
[18:24] <win7usr> hey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless
[18:24] <user82> OpenIndianaVbox: no optimus i think
[18:24] <grkblood> usr13, that fixed it but broke conky
[18:25] <user82> but i have an idea..i now got the proprietary driver installed maybe i can remove the kernel options again
[18:25] <cristian__> evening guys
[18:25] <usr13> grkblood: Ok, now you can look into "Hardware Drivers"
[18:25] <cristian__> i've got a problem with DPKG divert can someone help me ?
[18:25] <bekks> cristian__: Whats a dpkg divert?
[18:26] <grkblood> k
[18:26] <grkblood> thanks
[18:26] <usr13> grkblood: NP
[18:27] <cristian__> i'm upgrading a plugin, someone inserted in the debian package the Divert to preserve the files. when i install my package with the new plugin it says "/usr/lib/pinguino.so is diverted by package pinguino10", pinguino 11 is not installed
[18:27] <Reaga> why does software get slower iwth more updates
[18:27] <Reaga> shouldnt it be the oher way around
[18:28] <OpenIndianaVbox> cristian__: you shouldn't mix debian packages with ubuntu
[18:28] <cristian__> it's an upgrade
[18:28] <usr13> Reaga: What software is getting slower?
[18:29] <d70> does anybody know what is "IRQ: 0.99 No irq handler for vector (-1)" ?
[18:29] <cristian__> is there a way to divert the new one file ?
[18:29] <isopov> Hello, I have the following in my dmesg - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225032/ - does this mean that ACPI is not used and thats why lm-sensors don't work?
[18:29] <ianp> OpenIndianaVbox: is there a good way to convert or migrate them?
[18:29] <usr13> Reaga: I'll tell you one thing for sure:  If you install an operating system from 7 or 8 years ago, it would seem really fast, but a lot less functional.
[18:30] <ianp> OpenIndianaVbox: any good tips on documentation for this, is it in ubuntu documentation? (package management, etc)
[18:30] <cristian__> ok googleis my friens as ever
[18:30] <cristian__> bye guys
[18:30] <win7usr> hey if i create an live usb ubuntu and run will it detects my wirless
[18:30] <ianp> specifically, i have a problem where there is a listed dep., but i can't find it anywhere.. maybe i have to make it myself
[18:30] <usr13> win7usr: Possibly
[18:30] <usr13> win7usr: Try it and see.
[18:30] <ianp> win7usr: why wouldn't it?
[18:31] <ianp> as long as you have fairly common components, it should work
[18:31] <ianp> i.e. not some strange obscure wireless device with rare custom drivers
[18:31] <usr13> win7usr: See there?  (Even ianp doesn't have a crystal ball.)
[18:33] <b0ot> It seems like there are tools that can do the delayed delievery, the problem is having the servers replicate all data between each other and having a method for users to contact the closest server to update
[18:33] <ubunnytu> In short: Is it possible to customize the guest account?
[18:33] <b0ot> Looking for a piece of  server software that can allow messaging/files transfer from user to one or more users on a private LAN (no net access). These servers will be going on and offline frequently and so will the users, so if the user goes offline the messages they missed will be sent to them when they log back on. The users will connect to the closest server when they logon to get any missed messages. If servers get disconnected from one another when th
[18:33] <b0ot> ey get connected again all messages will be synced and replicated.
[18:34] <usr13> ubunnytu: Sure, from the original one.
[18:34] <Troy^> hello where do i disable the locking of my desktop when inactive can't find it in unity?
[18:34] <usr13> Troy^: screesnaver configs
[18:34] <ubunnytu> usr13: how can it be done?
[18:34] <Reaga> help me
[18:35] <usr13> ubunnytu: I'm assuming you want to add more rights?  edit /etc/group
[18:35] <auronandace> !bot
[18:37] <ubunnytu> usr13: I'd like to change the UI text size, visible program icons etc.
[18:38] <bazhang> ubottu, lag
[18:39] <OpenIndianaVbox> !botsnack
[18:40] <usr13> ubunnytu:  Are you using Unity or Gnome Classic?  or....?
[18:40] <ubunnytu> usr13: oh sorry forgot to mention.... Ubuntu 12.04 desktop
[18:42] <usr13> ubunnytu: install gconf-editor
[18:43] <ubunnytu> usr13: iḿ on it...
[18:44] <ubunnytu> usr13: it is installed
[18:44] <usr13> use it
[18:44] <usr13> ubunnytu: Or, if you are in uinty use MyUnity
[18:45] <usr13> ubunnytu: http://www.ntlug.org/Articles/CustomizeUbuntu
[18:45] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears, how to turn this off?
[18:46] <usr13> sremie89: Is the Shift key working?
[18:46] <ubunnytu> usr13: not sure if that answers my question... the guest account is reset on every login, how can I make stable changes to it
[18:47] <sremie89> Yeah, itś just that when I type a (double) quote it won appear unless I press space. So when I type a double quote and immediately afterwards type an a I get this ä
[18:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:48] <kingnebex> hi guys
[18:48] <usr13> sremie89: Have you messed with the settings in "System Settings...-->Keyboard" and then clicking on Layout Settings?
[18:49] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä
[18:49] <kingnebex> im looking for the best web developed program that will work in ubuntu 12.04 lts..can any 1 help me with some ideas?
[18:49] <Evdb> Guys, my head is about to explode and I'm literally getting sick, I need someone with a Mac and Ubuntu
[18:50] <jrib> Evdb: just ask your question
[18:50] <usr13> kingnebex: Lots of folks are using CMS'es like drupal and joomla
[18:51] <kingnebex> @<usr13> is it like dream weaver?
[18:51] <Evdb> I did that freaking 20 times here now, can someone just tell me if you're using Mac, otherwise there's no sense in typing it for the hunrdeth time
[18:51] <usr13> kingnebex: But if you just want a basic wisiwig html editor, try bluefish.
[18:51] <bazhang> !html | kingnebex
[18:51] <jrib> Evdb: you should just copy and paste it
[18:52] <Evdb> I'm exhausted and just need to get this to work for school
[18:52] <Evdb> I can't boot from cd in refit
[18:52] <jrib> Evdb: so the first step is to ask a question.
[18:52] <Evdb> It gives windows and efi
[18:52] <DrCode> hi all
[18:52] <dontknow> wow amazon suggestions in dash? really great!
[18:52] <usr13> kingnebex: No, drupal and joomla are Content Management Systems, see drupal.org or joomla.org or http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html
[18:52] <Evdb> Neither of them worj
[18:52] <jrib> !ot | dontknow
[18:52] <DrCode> how can I update my clock to jeruslam?
[18:53] <jrib> Evdb: try to ask your question on one line
[18:53] <Evdb> I always get black screen and cursor before even getting to boot menu
i just want to build up websites thats all
[18:53] <jrib> Evdb: you can't get to the live ubuntu system?
[18:53] <dontknow> jrib, great!
[18:53] <bazhang> kingnebex, so try one of those listed
[18:54] <usr13> DrCode: Click on the System menu on the top panel, go into the Administration sub-menu, and click on Time and Date.
[18:54] <DrCode> ok
[18:54] <DrCode> thank you
[18:54] <DrCode> it worked
[18:55] <dontknow> jrib, will the dash send every query you type?
[18:55] <jrib> dontknow: you can ask technical questions about 12.10 features in #ubuntu+1; this channel only supports released versions of ubuntu
[18:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
 have u been getting problems with ur ubuntu 12.04 lately or since installed?
[18:57] <ubunnytu> my microwave just blew a fuse which caused my internet to disconnect... could not receive any messages in the last 10 minutes
[18:58] <Evdb> Okay listen: I burnt 64 bit ubuntu to cd, slowest speed and checked the box to check the stuff. When I start up my MacBook in refit i see a linix and legacy os. Neiher of them will go further than black screen with white blinking cursor.  My sleep is suffering from it and the ubuntu JUST WON'T work ... I tried live usb, but after first boot of installed ubuntu i got kernel panic
[18:58] <jrib> Evdb: you need to hold down some sort of key combination to boot from a cd in a mac I believe
[18:58] <ubunnytu> Here's another try: Ubuntu 12.04, how can one make customizations to guest account persistent?
[18:59] <usr13> Evdb: I don't know about Apple stuff, but I wonder if the alternate-CD would be of any use to you?  Anyone?
[19:01] <usr13> ubunnytu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1566078
[19:02]  * Evdb sighs
[19:02] <Evdb> Is my connection death?
[19:02] <Pici> Evdb: no. freenode is having some network issues though.
[19:03] <Evdb> Jerib: yeah I tried that
[19:03] <Evdb> No succes
[19:03] <Evdb> Always get the black screen with the cursor
[19:04] <OpenIndianaVbox> !nomodeset | Evdb
[19:04] <Evdb> The live usb worked but first boot gave kernel panic timer yaddyadda
[19:04] <ubunnytu> usr13: Thank you very much!
[19:04] <Evdb> I can't choose nomodeset because inonly get the black screen
[19:05] <jrib> Evdb: so you've never actually managed to boot from the cd?
[19:05] <CarlFK> broadcom bcm4312 wifi - doesn't seem to work out of the box.  is there a package for it?
[19:05] <Evdb> Jrib: indeed
[19:05] <jrib> CarlFK: check jockey-gtk for the STA driver
[19:06] <CarlFK> jrib: thainks
[19:06] <jrib> Evdb: but does your computer try to (after holding down whatever the keyboard shortcut is)?
[19:06] <Evdb> Yeah I hear it spinning but get the endless black screen with blinking white cursor
[19:07] <jrib> Evdb: then the alternate cd suggestion from someone earlier might me a way to go
[19:07] <Evdb> I could try that
[19:08] <Fyodorovna> !broadcom | CarlFK  as well this wiki
[19:09] <Evdb> Can someone link the laternate thing?
[19:09] <Pici> !alternate
[19:09] <OpenIndianaVbox> !alternate | Evdb
[19:09] <Evdb> Thanks
[19:12] <sremie89> Every time I want to type a (double) quote I have to press an extra space before it appears. But if I type let's say an a immediately after pressing double quotes I get this ä
[19:14] <LordOfLight> whats up with the flood bot fun here?
[19:14] <Pici> LordOfLight: floodbots don't like netsplits
[19:14] <LordOfLight> heh. I guess I wasnt planning on one
[19:15] <MarcoFe> why this guy?
[19:15] <KsM> [Why are there 3 flood bots that all set the same modes?]
[19:15] <Pici> KsM: because thats how they work, but when there are netsplits and other ping craziness happens they get confused.
[19:16] <mstenta> This may not be the right room, but I'm seeing something really weird in my Ubuntu server: duplicate files in the same directory. They are white, while all the other files are purple, when I run ls -al.  I can't delete them, because they "don't exist", but a PHP script I'm running won't overwrite them because it thinks they're there. How can this be?
[19:16] <Evdb> Burning 32 bit now
[19:16] <Evdb> Please fingers crossed
[19:17] <Sokel> mstenta: Go to single user mode or boot a system rescue disc and delete them.
[19:20] <Uh> Anyone have any network cracking experience?
[19:21] <mstenta> Sokel: thanks! I just figured out I can remove them by their inode numbers
[19:21] <calwig> hi
[19:21] <Uh> Anyone at all?
[19:21] <calwig> i use wget for downloading
[19:21] <calwig> how can you resume download without downloading duplicate
[19:22] <jrib> calwig: wget -c
[19:24] <_Trullo> why is my screen bigger than the actual screen? how do I fix this? also, it says some 72" screen, but I have a 60" screen, how do I get that right?
[19:24] <Guest7570> my download folder on my home folder are just gone
[19:24] <Guest7570> i don't know how this happens i didn't delete
[19:25] <jrib> Guest7570: maybe you changed your language?
[19:25] <Guest7570> jrib, nope
[19:26] <Guest7570> jrib, some days ago my files in download folder are gone automattically
[19:26] <OpenIndianaVbox> Guest7570: ls -a
[19:26] <Guest7570> nope
[19:26] <Guest7570> how could this happens
[19:30] <servet_demirOz> Hi all! :)
[19:30] <skpl> RAM-TRON
[19:30] <skpl> RAMRAMRAM
[19:30] <fluitfries> hi all, can default Ubuntu or derivatives browse a cell phone (motorola) via usb cable?
[19:31] <servet_demirOz> How can i update the Ubuntu 12.04 from terminal? (i need exatly the same proces that Updfate Manager does).
[19:31] <zykotick9> servet_demirOz: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:32] <servet_demirOz>  zykotick9: first thank you! what is differences of "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" vs "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[19:32] <zykotick9> servet_demirOz: dist-upgrade upgrades EVERYTHING.  upgrade doesn't
[19:32] <OpenIndianaVbox> !dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz
[19:32] <bazhang> !dist-upgrade | servet_demirOz
[19:33] <servet_demirOz> bazhang zykotick9 : thank you! :)
[19:38] <articolo11> list
[19:39] <mrm2m> Hi,
[19:40] <mrm2m> I found a small bug in the libfuse-dev package. There are non compiling examples. I've got a bugfix. Where and how should I report that?
[19:41] <jrib> !bug | mrm2m
[19:41] <jrib> mrm2m: #ubuntu-bugs can help you as well
[19:43] <carmine46> . H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .
[19:43] <carmine46> hello
[19:43] <carmine46> !list
[19:44] <ElixirVitae> !botsnack
[19:44] <ElixirVitae> ^^
[19:44] <CiscoNinja> good day everyone, can someone please assist me. running precise everytime i boot my laptop i get crash report for /usr/bin/blueman-applet
[19:44] <CiscoNinja> i am using a bluetooth mouse them little one you by from costco
[19:45] <mrm2m> jrib, ubottu: thanks.
[19:48] <trapni> does anyone know about debian package creations? -- where do I find exact documentation about the file debian/rules and debian/control?
[19:48] <TuoNick> . H . E . L . L . O . #ubuntu . H . E . L . L . O .
[19:48] <ikonia> TuoNick: please don't do that
[19:48] <eXile_> Im trying to install php5-imagick but I keep getting: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed, I have spent a significant time googling but havent really found a solution, do I have to downgrade the php-common package or something?
[19:49] <arnotixe> jrib, hi thanks that tightvncserver on remote then connect to the resulting desktop works.
[19:49] <jrib> arnotixe: cool
[19:49] <jrib> eXile_: you should get rid of whatever unofficial crud it is that you have installed
[19:50] <eXile_> jrib I wasnt aware it was unoffical
[19:50] <eXile_> can you point me in the rigth direction
[19:50] <jrib> eXile_: dotdeb isn't supported
[19:51] <jrib> eXile_: you should get rid of it, it's what is causing your issues
[19:51] <Guido1> hello, i have a littleproblem wit xubuntu, which i just instaled. i don't have sound any more
[19:51] <eXile_> how do I go about doing that? sorry for the newb quesiton
[19:52] <eXile_> and have it install the right version
[19:53] <jrib> eXile_: the easiest way is for you to just remove the packages and then install them again
[19:54] <eXile_> which would be php5 php5-common php5-cli ?
[19:55] <jrib> eXile_: at least, yeah
[20:01] <jilebedev> Hi, I have a file.ext that is owned by root and is 755 permissions. When I run `sudo cmd >> file.ext`, I get a permission error. Why is that? Doesn't sudo apply to the output redirection as well? How do I get around this?
[20:02] <zykotick9> jilebedev: redirect could be issue for sudo, check out the use of "tee"
[20:02] <naxil> hello
[20:03] <naxil> is possible set the bandwith to eth1?
[20:03] <naxil> the max bandwith
[20:03] <ni1s> jilebedev, try sudo $(cmd >> file.ext)
[20:03] <genii-around> naxil: Look into tc
[20:04] <naxil> tc?
[20:05] <naxil> genii-around,  what is tc?
[20:05] <genii-around> naxil: Stands for Traffic Control, part of iproute package
[20:06] <naxil> for run it'
[20:06] <naxil> ?
[20:06] <naxil> sorry iam noob
[20:06] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[20:06] <naxil> hello janos
[20:06] <naxil> my real name is janos
[20:07] <naxil> genii-around,  i can set the bandwith max with tc?
[20:07] <GlenUK> o/
[20:07] <mbeierl_> I've started a VNC session on :1 (Ubuntu 11.10), running metacity instead of unity, but when I connect to the virtual desktop, the "d" key acts as if it were "meta-D" and it minimizes all the windows.  Does anyone know what controls this behaviour?
[20:09] <calwig> does anyone know "wget" commands? to where I can continue a previous download?
[20:09] <genii-around> naxil: Yes, but i do not have time at the moment to explain how tc works
[20:09] <ni1s> calwig, wget -c
[20:09] <mbeierl_> naxil, check out wondershaper for information on how tc can be used to limit speeds: http://lartc.org/wondershaper/  It's also in the repos as 'wondershaper'
[20:12] <BluesKaj> wget usually puts the file in ~/Downloads  ...you can find the page in your browser history , but you'll have to search for the actual wget url ...you could try going back with arrow key in the terminal to find it as well , calwig
[20:13] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, wget goes into ~/Downloads?  It goes into the current directory unless you explicitly give it a name to use
[20:14] <BluesKaj> mbeierl_, perhaps i changed the default path , and I've forgotten
[20:16] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, I know that web browsers keep a default path that they use, but wget - that's the command line utility, no?
[20:16] <GlenUK> why would my /tmp folder become locked? (become read only) - it is not mounted on any special partition (only have one) and the other folders on the partition are not locked. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/
[20:16] <mbeierl_> BluesKaj, not attempting to nit-pick, just making sure i know which util was being talked about
[20:17] <BluesKaj> mbeierl_, yes it's a cli utlity ,but works well
[20:17] <OpenIndianaVbox> mbeierl_: yes, wget is commandline downloader
[20:17] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, pastebin the output of "mount", please
[20:18] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, also check the output of 'dmesg' to see if there are any disk errors and the OS put the filesystem into read-only mode to prevent damage
[20:19] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225297/
[20:19] <GlenUK> mount
[20:19] <|Anthony|> any help here please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2062245
[20:19] <OpenIndianaVbox> !here | |Anthony|
[20:20] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, I don't like that last line of the mount cmd output: mount: warning: /etc/mtab is not writeable (e.g. read-only file-system)  That typically means your / filesystem had an error and the whole thing has gone read-only
[20:20] <|Anthony|> OpenIndianaVbox, I've been *trying* to get multiseat and pulseaudio to play nice together. the details of which are found in the forum post i linked... which is why i posted the link instead of the question.
[20:21] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, I should add: it means "/" went that way, as /etc/ and /tmp are all on the / filesystem according to the mount output you shared
[20:21] <GlenUK> is there any way to disable the join leave notifivations in Empathy?
[20:21] <Guest68486> Could anyone help me set up mythtv I opend the backend and its asking for a username and password and I dont know either!!
[20:21] <Sajan> What is the current, actively developed, support way to share media to a Xbox 360?
[20:21] <xangua> GlenUK: i would try a dedicated irc client, empathy is Very limited for irc
[20:21] <OpenIndianaVbox> |Anthony|: sorry, i was making the point that if you gave a brief overview here then people know what problem you are linking to
[20:22] <zykotick9> !upnp | Sajan i'd start here.
[20:22] <OpenIndianaVbox> |Anthony|: they would be more likely to look at your link then
[20:23] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: i cannot get the full output of dmesg, can i pipe that to a text file?
[20:23] <|Anthony|> OpenIndianaVbox, i appreciate the suggestion. lol most people shy away from helping with multiseat issues as it is *non-standard* usage
[20:23] <Sajan> zykotick9, cool.  thanks.
[20:23] <GlenUK> xangua: i am thinking the same :)
[20:23] <daniel__> hi someone knows why getting started arduino ?
[20:25] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you can try "dmesg | less" and then hit the space bar to go through page at a time
[20:25] <Sajan> zykotick9, It looks as if MediaTomb project has gone inactive for a couple years.  Off the top of your head, are there any other UPnP servers that you'd recommend?
[20:26] <cloudy> Hello - I installed openconnect in order to connect to a cisco vpn service, but when I try to create a new vpn item it only gives me pptp. I am running 12.04
[20:26] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you can also type "/dev/sdb6" in the
[20:27] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, less command and it will search for dev/sdb6 one occurence at a time.  Hit / again to search for the next occurrence
[20:27] <zykotick9> Sajan: sorry, i don't use upnp.  good luck.
[20:27] <cloudy> I should add "in the network manager2
[20:27] <cloudy> I should add "in the network manager"
[20:27] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: let me grab a better irc client, getting bogged down with join/leave spam :)
[20:28] <genii-around> !info ushare
[20:29] <cloudy> !info openconnect
[20:29] <mbeierl_> cloudy, have you also installed the network-manager-openconnect-gnome?
[20:29] <|Anthony|> How can i set up pulseaudio in a system-wide instance and have localhost users connect to it
[20:30] <cloudy> mbeierl_, thank you :)
[20:30] <mbeierl_> cloudy, one installs the vpn capabilities itself, the -gnome one installs the GUI to configure it
[20:30] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: ok i cannot install software atm :)
[20:30] <mbeierl_> cloudy, glad it helped, then.  Been there done that with other vpn software plugins
[20:30] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: 'dmesg | less /dev/sdb6' ?
[20:31] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, you will not be able to install or modify the system at all until it is fixed
[20:31] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, sorry, no.  'dmesg | less' then, when you get the first page, "/" starts entering a "search for" command
[20:31] <intrader> Anyone, I have a usb drive that I just formatted with Gparted to ext4. The drive mounts with label Backup and contents lost+found. The Deja backup tool does not see the drive:'Waiting for "SanDisk Cruiser:Backup" to become connectsI don't knwo what I should do.
[20:31] <cloudy> mbeierl_, :) - next issue - when I select the entry I created, I am not being asked for the user name and password - using rsa token
[20:32] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, so you want to look for entries relating to dev/sdb6, so "/" followed by "dev/sdb6" and hit enter
[20:32] <arsimet> hallo an alle....
[20:32] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: not found
[20:32] <mbeierl_> cloudy, I'm not familiar with the prompts or credentials that openconnect requires.  Are there additional tabs or pop-ups in the gui?
[20:33] <mbeierl_> GlenUK, try "grep '/dev/sdb' /var/log/syslog" ?
[20:33] <cloudy> mbeierl_, only a tab for IP addressing
[20:34] <cloudy> mbeierl_, the log shows that I am connecting to the right URL. The logs show "Please enter your username and password." But it never gives me any prompt to enter that information.
[20:34] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225328/
[20:35] <mbeierl_> cloudy, GlenUK - I am very sorry.  I need to run for a while :(
[20:35] <GlenUK> mbeierl_: ok :) thank you
[20:35] <cloudy> mbeierl_, no worries. thank you
[20:35] <mbeierl_> np.  ciao for now!
[20:36] <GlenUK> Can anyone help me solve an issue with my hard drive locking? (maybe related to /tmp folder)
[20:36] <AaronCampbell> I had to remove Pulseaudio to get Skype audio to sound right.  Unfortunately it also removed the volume icon/control from the panel.  Is there an alternative that I can install to get that control back up there?
[20:37] <intrader> The Storage tab shows two selections with name Backup. When I chose annother 'Backup', it finds it too small. The drive has 14.7 GB and what I am backing up has less that 10GB.
[20:38] <compdoc> GlenUK, what do you mean locking?
[20:38] <eXile_> I keep getting dependency issues when trying to install php5-imagick, I have removed the packages and erinstalled them even done an upgrade and I still get the same issue: php5-imagick : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.17-1~dotdeb.0) but 5.4.6-2~precise+1 is to be installed any suggestions on how to fix it
[20:39] <GlenUK> compdoc: I tried installing a large application and it crashed, here is the message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225290/
[20:39] <GlenUK> compdoc: Now I cannot install anything so I feel the whole partition is locked now
[20:40] <compdoc> GlenUK, when hard drives have issues, its mounted as read-only. Open the Disk utility, and check the crive's health
[20:40] <compdoc> *drive's
[20:40] <jrib> eXile_: same answer as before
[20:40] <eXile_> jrib
[20:40] <eXile_> I did remove them
[20:40] <eXile_> and reisntalled them
[20:40] <eXile_> and I get the same issue
[20:40] <FloodBot1> eXile_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:41] <eXile_> so obviosuly I didnt do it right or something else is broken
[20:41] <jrib> eXile_: do you still have the dotdeb repositories enabled...?
[20:41] <eXile_> well thats probably the problem
[20:41] <eXile_> where do I remove them
[20:41] <jrib> eXile_: how did you add it?
[20:41] <GlenUK> compdoc: i assume i am going to need to restart: Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system
[20:42] <eXile_> I have no idea, I didnt
[20:42] <jrib> eXile_: who did?
[20:42] <compdoc> GlenUK, what does Disk Utility say about the drive's health?
[20:42] <eXile_> this is a vanillia install form the datacenter I got the server from
[20:42] <jrib> eXile_: complain to them then
[20:43] <eXile_> ok thanks
[20:43] <intrader> It appears that usb drive with volume name Backup has no file system? I am unable to create anything on it. Maybe that is the reason Deja can't find space for backup
[20:43] <GlenUK> compdoc: Overall assessment: Disk has a few bad sectors. further down i see: Current Pending Sector Count..... Number of sectors waiting to be remapped: 2
[20:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:43] <Elesa> What's the best Adobe After Effects alternative for Ubuntu?
[20:43] <jackylantern> hello
[20:43] <jackylantern> new here
[20:43] <compdoc> GlenUK, thats the problem. Can you click the button to open the SMART info, and read how many bad secotrs>?
[20:44] <jackylantern> anyone know a good chaneel?
[20:44] <compdoc> sectors
[20:44] <GlenUK> compdoc: 2
[20:44] <OpenIndianaVbox> !ot | jackylantern
[20:44] <compdoc> not Current Pending Sectors, but Reallocated sectors
[20:44] <GlenUK> compdoc: 0
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> !equivalent > Elesa
[20:45] <WeThePeople> jackylantern, do you have a ubuntu related question?
[20:46] <compdoc> GlenUK, hmm, well, pending sectors mean that the drive had problems reading/writing, but it might not actaully be the drive - could be power issues, or something else. In any case, when you start having bad sectors, and the number starts to grow, its time for a new drive. You should backup your data in the mean time
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> Elesa  there's also http://www.linuxalt.com/ and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Windows_software
[20:47] <compdoc> GlenUK, and yeah, I think you just need to reboot
[20:47] <GlenUK> compdoc: is there anything i can do in the mean time? perform a disk check maybe?
[20:47] <compdoc> GlenUK, there are tests to run in Disk Util
[20:47] <compdoc> SMART tests
[20:47] <compdoc> short and long
[20:48] <GlenUK> compdoc ty
[20:48] <compdoc> good luck with that
[20:48] <Elesa> Thanks, MonkeyDust! :D
[20:49] <intrader> I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.
[20:49] <alecb> I tried to compile my own wifi kernel drivers and install them as per instructions on some askubuntu thread -- is there a way to ensure that the drivers being used are actually the ones I compiled?
[20:50] <catalinb> Hello. I'm developing a qt application - what is the easiest way to detect whether global menu is being used?
[20:53] <Lorra> Hey everybody! I just discovered this peace of beauty called lolcat which can output files on your console written in a awesome rainbow-coloured font. Now I would like to have all of my output like that, does anybody have a clue on how to do that??
[20:54] <jrib> Lorra: that's quite amusing...
[20:54] <jrib> Lorra: maybe #bash can offer advice
[20:54] <Lorra> jrib, it's totally amusing, you should try that!
[20:55] <intrader> Anyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive.
[20:56] <Seveas> echo jrib | figlet | lolcat
[20:56]  * jrib updates his motd
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> intrader  rsync -avv ~ [destination] copies home to the usb drive
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> intrader  make that rsync -- progress -avv ~ [destination]
[20:58] <ylere> Hi, it seems that my linux file system got corrupted. I repaired it with fsck but now it seems that some files are missing and I get a kernel panic during boot. I have a separate /home partition and everything is fine there. Is it possible to chroot into the file system and reinstall all system files?
[20:59] <Seveas> ylere, in theory yes, unless it's too damaged
[21:00] <ylere> @Seveas: What command do I need to run after the chroot?
[21:00] <Seveas> ylere, boot from a live cd, get a root terminal, mount the drive, chroot into it and run this: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install --reinstall
[21:01] <ylere> Seveas, okay, thanks! I will try this...
[21:01] <Seveas> the awk filters out just the installed packages
[21:01] <micah_> can someone peleeeease help me with a recordmydesktop issue?
[21:01] <Seveas> ylere, now, if your system is too damaged for the chroot to succeed, you'll have a more difficult time
[21:04] <witakr> Hello good people.
[21:04] <ylere> Seveas, lets hope it works. I do not understand how this happened anyway. Suddenly the partition was mounted read-only. I didn't even noticed it for quite some time because everything was running fine (including a virtual machine), until an application tried to access /tmp.
[21:05] <Troy^> i cant seem to find the option in unity to prevent locking my computer after inactivity?
[21:07] <MASTERPIECE> how to play euro truck simulator on ubuntu
[21:07] <MASTERPIECE> ?
[21:07] <bmallred> Troy^: are you talking about the setting under "Brightness and Lock"?
[21:07] <Ramone> hey all... can anyone recommend a tool for listing a disk's largest files in order?
[21:07] <Troy^> thank you bmallred
[21:08] <bmallred> Troy^: not a problem
[21:08] <siente> !flash
[21:10] <giuseppefederico> !list
[21:10] <intrader> Anyone, I need to perform a backup. I have a USB drive that I formatted with Gparted. It shows lost-found and 14.7 GB of space. However I can't create any folders or files in the drive. I have followed http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 without result
[21:10] <siente> !Restricted
[21:10] <witakr> I know this is not directly related to ubuntu but I don't know where else to ask where I might get a response. Can someone help me in setting up my DSL modem and router to allow my media server to access via the internet? FYI: It is for personal use only. I am wanting to be able to access my DVD collection from my phone. i have all that done via Plex but for some reason plex is not able to reach my server and everything I have
[21:10] <witakr> found so far points to the issue being with my modem and/or router.
[21:11] <jose__> esto no hay quién lo entienda !!!
[21:11] <ylere> Ramone, try boabab or gdmap
[21:11] <jose__> vaya lioooo !!
[21:12] <witakr> My plex server is seemingly set up correctly because I can access my movies and watch them when my phone is connected via wifi to my home network but via the internet is another story
[21:14] <vivid> anyone know how to remove the apps/music purchasing from the dash?
[21:14] <vivid> i really dont use linux for the advertisements
[21:16] <genii-around> vivid: You are using 12.10 ?
[21:16] <thedead> Hi all. I'm trying to jail a media streamer with chroot but I always chrooted only simple things (like ssh, bash (strange..yeah...strange), and so on). the streamer in question is in java so i chrooted bash, java and dpkg and i installed the program in the chrooted env. Now i have a doubt: how can i execute it at the boot? I can setup a startup script in rc but i don't know what to write. This streamer will be used as a serv
[21:16] <thedead> ice and it need to bind a socket and to perform rw operations on the real fs.
[21:17] <vivid> genii-around, no, using precise
[21:17] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:17] <vivid> genii-around, i found the apps, but i want to remove the music available for purchase and the online videos sections..
[21:18] <intrader> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?
[21:19] <Al_> hi everyone
[21:19] <Al_> This might sound crazy
[21:19] <Al_> but I have a major problem relating ubuntu
[21:20] <IdleOne> vivid: You can remove unity-lens-music but I believe that will also remove the ability to search for music locally.
[21:20] <Al_> can someone offer some help pls?
[21:20] <witakr> Al_, can you elaborate?
[21:20] <IdleOne> vivid: search for music via dash that is
[21:20] <Al_> yes
[21:20] <vivid> IdleOne, yeah, i dont want to do that, just want to disable the available for purchase section
[21:20] <vivid> so....when i search for a song, i dont want it to advertise
[21:20] <intrader> According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.
[21:21] <Al_> yes witakr
[21:21] <IdleOne> vivid: #ubuntu-unity may be of more help, and technically they are not ads but search results. anyway, #ubuntu-unity
[21:21] <witakr> Al_, Ok... What specific problems are you having?
[21:21] <Al_> boot up
[21:21] <Al_> ubuntu wont boot
[21:21] <Al_> and I've erased windows 7 off my computer
[21:21] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Al_  start from the beginning, what were you doing and what went wrong -- in 1 line please
[21:22] <witakr> Al_,  OK is it giving you any messages or errors or something to that effect which you might think is relevant to your problem?
[21:22] <Al_> it just goes to a purple screen
[21:22] <Al_> or sometimes
[21:23] <Al_> it says panic something
[21:23] <Al_> I don't wanna come across like an idiot
[21:23] <Al_> but I am really new to this
[21:23] <witakr> Al_, How many times have you tried booting ubuntu?
[21:23] <Al_> many times
[21:23] <Al_> I am now running kubuntu
[21:23] <Al_> which would only work on live mode
[21:24] <Al_> off my USB
[21:24] <Al_> any ideas?
[21:24] <witakr> Al_, Ok something may have gone awry during the install. What version were you trying to install?
[21:24] <_XMENDES> hey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live.
[21:24] <Al_> the latest one
[21:24] <_XMENDES> it found the folders, but not the .avi files
[21:25] <Al_> 12.04
[21:25] <witakr> Al_, Ok.. were you trying to install from a cd or live USB?
[21:25] <Al_> live USB
[21:25] <Core_UK> Hello I ran the command sudo e2fsck -cfpv /dev/sdb2 expecting to start seeing some output, but do not see anything yet? after 15 mins, is that normal?:)
[21:26] <witakr> Al_, Did you create the live USB using Windows? 7? xp? or another system?
[21:26] <Al_> I used vista
[21:26] <Al_> which I have on an older laptop
[21:26] <intrader> Anyone, According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422114 I should be able to create folders and files in a usb drive that I formatted with Gpartd as Ext 4 (it has 14.7 GB) with label Backup. As the fstab was modified on reboot it wants the drive to be available. What else can I do to make the udb drive accessible to Deja backup?I have removed the fstab entries so that can reboot.
[21:26] <witakr> Al_, Ok how did you create the Live USB? what live USB creator did you use?
[21:27] <_XMENDES> anyone?
[21:27] <Al_> lily
[21:29] <witakr> Al_, Ok the machine you're trying to install ubuntu on.. can you give me some detail about it? such as make and model and any changes in hardware you have made such as did you upgrade your video or sound cards.. things of that sort.. be specific on the make and model so i can find it
[21:30] <Al_> it's an advent Roma/ intel celeron c900
[21:30] <Al_> memory: 3072MB DDR2 RAM
[21:30] <Al_> Hard Drive 250 GB
[21:30] <daemon> hey all; im getting an error whenb I try to start exim
[21:30] <daemon> Exim configuration error in line 141 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp "\n" user mailnull was not found
[21:31] <daemon> ^ whats going on
[21:31] <daemon> the "\n" is meant to be a real zn jsut wanted to compress it onto one line
[21:32]  * eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃
[21:32] <_XMENDES> hey guys. im trying to use USHARE but my files.avi are not visible on WDTV live. anyone can help me?
[21:33] <Al_> witakr did you get that?
[21:33] <witakr> Al_, Ok there should be a model number on case by the trackpad or on the screen bezel can you din that for me... if not then look for the sticker on the underside and you should see s/n and model numbers.. i just need the model number
[21:34] <Al_> witakr did you get that?
[21:36] <grimeton> someone else seeing very bad i/o performance with the lts kernel?
[21:38] <_XMENDES> anyone knows ushare? i trying to see my files on cellphone and dont works to
[21:38] <_XMENDES> only appears the folders :/
[21:39] <opiates|netbook> greetings
[21:39] <viashimo> in both chrome and firefox listen buttons don't work. flash (eg. youtube) is fine. thoughts or suggestions?
[21:40] <rbrooks> having problems caht on my ubuntu
[21:40]  * eamon is listening to キセキはじまり☆ on pop'n music 19 TUNE STREET original soundtrack by 達見 恵 featured by 佐野宏晃 (2011)
[21:41] <k1l> eamon: would you mind to stop that script for the #ubuntu support channel?
[21:41] <eamon> k k1l
[21:42] <rbrooks> ?
[21:42] <rbrooks> he is donig this?
[21:43] <k1l> !netsplit > rbrooks
[21:45] <rbrooks> WTF ?  ok
[21:46] <widith> hi, does root have read write execute priveleges on files they are not the owners of?
[21:48]  * genii-around kicks at FloodBot3
[21:51] <xine> widith: yes
[21:54] <PyroN00B> Hey
[21:54] <PyroN00B> I have a bug report, if there are any Ubuntu developers in the room.
[21:55] <MonkeyDust>  !bug
[21:55] <sylar_> hi
[21:55] <VlanZ> hi there
[21:56] <VlanZ> anyone can help me to figure out how to write a simple scrit to perform a write on a external USB drive that powers down every 15 mins if idle so i can keep it up?
[21:56] <xreal> Where has ubuntu.de/ubuntu-de gone?
[21:56] <xreal> ARGH, my fault
[21:57] <rufsketch1> Hello everyone
[21:58] <rufsketch1> how can I install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[21:59] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, #!/bin/bash  while true; do echo 1 > /mnt/yourdrive/tmpfile; sleep 900; done
[22:00] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: sorry for my ignorance, but how do i make this script to run at startup?
[22:00] <muellisoft> well VlanZ. I believe the real solution would involve telling the hardware to not shutdown. Check whether hdparm gives you relevant options.
[22:01] <VlanZ> muellisoft: the usb drive enclosure seems to ignore any setting like that
[22:01] <VlanZ> unfortunately
[22:01] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, crontab -e   add a new line at the bottom: @reboot /path/to/script
[22:02] <goddard> Did you know you can have a conversation with yourself
[22:02] <Kingsy> guys, atm I am using the open radeon driver. It works just great but its an old version. How difficult is it to upgrade it to the latest?
[22:02] <Estragon> Hi
[22:03] <Kingsy> if anyone in here is using that driver?
[22:03] <Estragon> I was an issue with my ubuntu server, sometimes server CPU & RAM goes to 100% and ssh / httpd / services doesnt respond anymore
[22:03] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: thanks, i'll try that out :)
[22:03] <Estragon> forcing a hard reboot
[22:03] <Estragon> any idea on what to look for ?
[22:03] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, you're welcome :)
[22:03] <Estragon> any log I can read ?
[22:04] <Kingsy> Estragon: atop should tell you what is locking things up
[22:05] <rufsketch1> How can I install 32-bit nvidia drivers on a 64-bit system?
[22:05] <Estragon> Kingsy: but I can't use it after server is down, can I ?
[22:05] <Estragon> I mean, server starts randomly to overload and I can't do anything else than hard reboot
[22:06] <Estragon> which mean I can't run top or anything else while the overload happens
[22:06] <Kingsy> Estragon: sure you can, atopsar :)
[22:06] <state> Hello! I have a /var/log/boot.log file that I just realized is overflowing due to a permissions error. I can't seem to find the right command to truncate it. Any advice?
[22:07] <state> I tried sudo sh -c "> /var/log/boot.log" to no avail
[22:07] <SparksIT2> how do configure /etc/fstab to mount a drive as its own drive and not part of the file system drive?
[22:08] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: make it mount to /media/whatever
[22:08] <rufsketch1> ?
[22:08] <XMENDES> i cant acess my files on UPNP media server (on ubuntu)
[22:08] <Estragon> Kingsy: so, atop installed. What do you recommend next ?
[22:08] <XMENDES> im only can see the images files.. movies and others types.. i cant see
[22:08] <XMENDES> using ushare media server
[22:08] <rufsketch1> XMENDES: configure ushare to show you movie and other file types
[22:09] <XMENDES> how?
[22:09] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1: that makes it part of the file system drive, I want it to be its own drive
[22:09] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1: that makes it part of the file system drive, I want it to be its own drive
[22:09] <XMENDES> how i do this configuration on ushare?
[22:09] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: what demarcates the two?
[22:10] <Estragon> Kingsy: should I just wait for the next overload ?
[22:10] <XMENDES> how i do this configuration on ushare? to show my movies. ???
[22:10] <rufsketch1> XMENDES: read ushare's manual
[22:10] <Kingsy> Estragon: did you get atopsar with that?
[22:10] <Lord_Zero_> holy netsplit
[22:11] <Estragon> Kingsy: yup
[22:12] <SparksIT2> rufsketch1:  don't understand? basicly I want to make the equivalent of say adding a G: drive in windows, C: drive has to OS files and G drive is seperate
[22:12] <netmk> SparksIT2: there's no such thing as a "drive" in linux, only mounts.
[22:12] <Kingsy> Estragon: wicked.. so keep an eye on it, make sure its collecting the data together, you can monitor the data as it collects and after a crash you can look back at the time of crash
[22:12] <rufsketch1> anyone know how to  install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[22:12] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: okay, but like, why?
[22:13] <Estragon> Kingsy: seems very good, thanks
[22:13] <glosoli_> can I use ubottu somehow to check package version  ?
[22:13] <SparksIT2> I want to keep it consitant between Windows and Linux
[22:13] <netmk> SparksIT2: it really doesn't work that way.  "/" is the top mount level, and everything mounts underneath this.
[22:13] <Kingsy> atop will let you narrow down which application is using the most resources. If its apache for example. You can start narrowing down which apache service it is. Could be a php leak or something
[22:13] <Kingsy> Estragon: ^^
[22:13] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: it's still consistent. You won't be able to see the difference.
[22:14] <Kingsy> Estragon: I also recommend using sar to monitor daily loads.. if there are any spikes you can look into those deeper with atopsar
[22:14] <rufsketch1> SparksIT2: there's no way to have a drive you can access that isn't mounted
[22:14] <rufsketch1> and if it's mounted, it has to be mounted somewhere
[22:14] <genii-around> !fhs | SparksIT2
[22:15] <rufsketch1> Does anyone know how to install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu?
[22:15] <state> I might have gotten lost in that mass-exit, but I'm still curious on an easy and safe way to truncate the boot.log
[22:16] <Kingsy> soo.. anyone in here use the open radeon driver?
[22:18] <genii-around> rufsketch1: You can specify the architecture of a package by for instance: sudo apt-get install whatever:i386 for32-bit or sudo apt-get install whatever:amd64 for 64-bit. Although why you would want to do that install a 32bit driver into a 64bit OS is puzzling.
[22:18] <Estragon> thank you
[22:19] <intrader> Everyone thanks for help
[22:19] <|Anthony|> I still need some help with multiseat audio
[22:19] <Kingsy> man this channel is crazy today.. how can this many people be in and out..
[22:19] <SparksIT2> Okay, so I remonted the drive as /media/storage...but I don't have the rights to create folders via the File manager, it says only Root has access
[22:19] <|Anthony|> i don't have any hair left to pull out
[22:21] <genii-around> SparksIT2: The root filesystem of the drive will always be owned by root. For other users, make a folder in there and make it owned recursively by the user who is allowed to use it.
[22:22] <rufsketch1> I'm confused as to how no one knows how to do this? Is there really no way to install 32-bit nvidia drivers on 64-bit ubuntu? Are all OpenGL based programs in wine now completely off limits?
[22:22] <sblahhh> bonsoir ^
[22:22] <SparksIT2> So do I modify for all user to have all user to have Read\Write access/
[22:23] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, nvidia binary includes 32bit compat files iirc
[22:23] <XMENDES> my port xxxx is closed on firewall to win.. how i open this??
[22:23] <Estragon> Kingsy: my hosting provider already monitors load but I have no indication on what process uses CPU, any idea on something to track heavy consuming processes ?
[22:23] <XMENDES> my port xxxx is closed on firewall to in.. how i open this??
[22:23] <D[4]ni> SparksIT2: try not to do that, if you don't really depend on it. rather set the appropiate user/group as owner
[22:23] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, i know it asks if you want to install them if you install the binary from the nvidia download page
[22:24] <|Anthony|> !ufw | XMENDES
[22:24] <Kingsy> Estragon: we just discussed atopsar
[22:24] <D[4]ni> SparksIT2: you can still create a new group, set it as the owning group for your directory, and put all the users that need access to the folder in it.
[22:25] <Estragon> Kingsy: yup but  I have only seen "global" stats, does it provide per process stats too ?
[22:25] <Estragon> if so, sorry :)
[22:25] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: Alright, I'll try re-installing then
[22:25] <rufsketch1> though I don't remember it asking me that
[22:25] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: do you know how I can check if the 32-bit compat binaries are already installed?
[22:26] <beta> hi everyone im running ubuntu from a usb stick how can i make it a installation that i can run on any pc instead of just the iso file
[22:26] <Kingsy> Estragon: that is the whole point in atopsar. sar is global load. atopsar shows actual processes
[22:26] <Estragon> nice !
[22:26] <|Anthony|> rufsketch1, may i ask why you are looking into it? does something not work for you?
[22:27] <Estragon> thanks
[22:27] <rufsketch1> |Anthony|: yes. Trying to run Amnesia in wine (which has a platinum compatibility rating) returns this
[22:27] <rufsketch1> err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Direct rendering is disabled, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed correctly (using GL renderer "GeForce GTX 660/PCIe/SSE2", version "1.4 (2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.43)").
[22:27] <zodiak> rufsketch1, what spec is you comp ? if you don't mind me asking
[22:27] <rufsketch1> zodiak: what sort of reply are you looking for?
[22:28] <genii-around> rufsketch1: You can specify the architecture of a package by for instance: sudo apt-get install whatever:i386 for32-bit or sudo apt-get install whatever:amd64 for 64-bit. Although why you would want to do that install a 32bit driver into a 64bit OS is puzzling.
[22:28] <rufsketch1> lspci?
[22:28] <zodiak> rufsketch1, preferrably details :) no no.. cpu/ram/gfx etc
[22:28] <genii-around> rufsketch1: In case it didn't get to you the first time due to netsplits
[22:28] <Kingsy> Estragon: np
[22:29] <rufsketch1> genii-around: wine only works with 32-bit OpenGL
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: intel core-i5 3570k
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: gtx660,  and 16GB RAM
[22:30] <YoungOwl> Ne
[22:30] <YoungOwl> b
[22:30] <zodiak> rufsketch1, aaahh.. k series.. fudge
[22:30] <YoungOwl> N
[22:30] <YoungOwl> Hello everyone
[22:30] <beta> maybe a tutorial??
[22:30] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ?
[22:30] <zodiak> rufsketch1, I was going to suggest xen, but, to get your card really working, you would need vt-d working
[22:31] <zodiak> rufsketch1, I can play borderlands 2 on the 3770, 7850 radeon no probs
[22:31] <rufsketch1> zodiak: xen? vt-d?
[22:31] <zodiak> better than wine by far
[22:31] <YoungOwl> #ubuntu 5.10
[22:31] <YoungOwl> -j #ubuntu
[22:31] <zodiak> rufsketch1, yeah, it's like virtualbox/vmware stuff
[22:32] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ah. What does that have to do with k-series?
[22:32] <zodiak> actually, virtualbox maybe good enough to play amnesia
[22:33] <YoungOwl> Quantos brasileiros no local
[22:33] <zodiak> rufsketch1, vt-d (which is required to pass the video card through) doesn't work on k class cpu's
[22:33] <rufsketch1> zodiak: ah, I see
[22:33] <zodiak> yeah.. but.. you maybe able to use virtualbox to play amnesia.. it's not a new game
[22:33] <rufsketch1> zodiak: welp. That decision to splurge sure came to bite me back in the ass :-P
[22:33] <zodiak> sorry :(
[22:34] <rufsketch1> zodiak: still, I kind of want wine to work for other reasons
[22:34] <rufsketch1> zodiak: do you know of any way to check if the 32-bit compat libraries are already installed?
[22:34] <rufsketch1> for nvidia?
[22:34] <zodiak> dpkg -l | grep -i i386
[22:35] <zodiak> assuming you are on 64bit linux here, of course, you shouldn't see too many of those i386 packages ;)
[22:35] <rufsketch1> zodiak: actually, I see approximately a fuckton of them
[22:36] <zodiak> rufsketch1, then you probably have them .. you looking for a specific one ?
[22:37] <rufsketch1> zodiak: http://pastebin.com/qCKnbD9H
[22:37] <rufsketch1> http://pastebin.com/qCKnbD9H
[22:37] <Wilson2B> hi all
[22:38] <rufsketch1> zodiak: the OpenGL ones
[22:38] <rufsketch1> oh man, this connection is absurd.
[22:38] <rufsketch1> sorry for how confusing this is getting
[22:38] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what.
[22:39] <Wilson2B> the background disapears until I move a window around
[22:39] <Wilson2B> even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neeth
[22:39] <Wilson2B> neath
[22:41] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what. the background disappears until I move a window around. even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neath.
[22:41] <beta> how can i have a livecd on a usb stick an also a ubuntu install on same usb??
[22:44] <beta> someone?
[22:45] <twitchie> beta, do you want multiple distributions on one usb thumb drive?
[22:46] <MonkeyDust> beta  use multisystem to that end, found on the pendrive site
[22:47] <Wilson2B> pendrivelinux.com
[22:47] <beta> nope just ubuntu 12.04
[22:48] <beta> i already have a usb ubuntu installation iso, now what i want its to keep changes and create an admin account
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> !persistent
[22:57] <BebopSteve> Is anyone familiar with docky config files?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/192283/how-do-i-restore-previous-launcher-icons-in-docky
[22:57] <blackshirt> bebopsteve, is resetting the config would bring it back?
[22:58] <BebopSteve> blackshirt, resetting the config?
[22:58] <kevin_> hi all. is there a way to "bounce" my usb hubs? sometimes, my attached usb devices hang. i disconnect the device, but lsusb still shows it connected, and reconnecting it (even to a different port) doesn't work. any thoughts?
[22:59] <blackshirt> bebopsteve, i don't really familiar with docky
[22:59] <Wilson2B> Running 12.04 , and somehow the refresh graphics got mucked with.. not sure if it's a video driver or what. the background disappears until I move a window around. even menu items dont show up.. have to move cursor over them a few times to see under neath.
[23:01] <twitchie> Wilson2B, remember downloading/updating any packages or changing any configs? What card are you running
[23:01] <blackshirt> wilson28, have you reinstall your graphic card driver?
[23:02] <Wilson2B> Im using Intel GMU 3150 chipset
[23:02] <Wilson2B> I havent reinstalled drivers yet.
[23:02] <Wilson2B> not sure how
[23:03] <Wilson2B> Intel released new drivers but they are not compiled..
[23:03] <GregoryFenton> Kevin`, I had a similar issue, read http://labby.co.uk/2011/12/usb-keyboard-disconnect-fix-ubuntu/ see if that helps you.
[23:03] <blackshirt> wilson28, are you mean on binary form or source form?
[23:03] <Wilson2B> source
[23:04] <Wilson2B> yet
[23:04] <Wilson2B> yes
[23:04] <GregoryFenton> Kevin`, the important part is the modprobe -r usbhid, wait, modprobe usbhid
[23:04] <Kurlatos> Buonasera
[23:04] <Wilson2B> I would like to reinstall with the latest Intel GMU 3150 drivers
[23:04] <Wilson2B> Linux support from intel sux
[23:04] <Wilson2B> they don't even host Linux drivers
[23:05] <Kurlatos> what you looking for?
[23:05] <blackshirt> wilson28, you can download them and compile them
[23:06] <BebopSteve> blachshirt oh ok, I appreciate the effort
[23:07] <twitchie> Wilson2B, you can get the drivers from here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Netbook+and+Tablet+Graphics&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Graphics+Media+Accelerator+3150+%28Intel%C2%AE+GMA+3150%29
[23:07] <OerHeks> Wilson2B, try the x-swat ppa > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[23:07] <Dr_willis> I thought there was the xswat ppa's that included newer drivers. ;)
[23:07] <Pupuser> hi
[23:08] <blackshirt> hi pupuser
[23:12] <Kevin`> http://kwzs.be/~kevin/keyboard_shortcuts.png - anyone know how to prevent this from displaying whenever I use a shortcut involving the super key?
[23:12] <Wilson2B> thank you , I will try that link
[23:12] <FireStorms> Hey can someone help me I messed up the default Bluetooth sender on Ubuntu 10.04 and I just want to put some tunes on my phone for boring bus journey tomorrow
[23:13] <usr13> FireStorms: What kind of phone is it?
[23:13] <Kevin`> FireStorms: use the usb cable and figure it out later
[23:13] <FireStorms> usr13, blackberry curve, i've haven't even got a data cable to send them down the wire
[23:14] <lgc> Hi, what's a good VPN server to connect to?
[23:14] <usr13> FireStorms: I dono how you stand bluetooth, it is very slow.
[23:15] <usr13> FireStorms: How did you mess it up?
[23:15] <FireStorms> usr13, I know better than nothing though
[23:15] <FireStorms> usr13 It all happened when I installed Blueman
[23:16] <FireStorms> If I could just somehow reset bluetooth back to nomral
[23:17] <usr13> FireStorms: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/blueman-bluetooth-manager-for-ubuntu.html
[23:17] <Ganharb> Hey guys super nub question im sure ... when i run certian things in the terminal you know how you get the package configuration .. like an agreement ... but its like another layer inside of terminal .. and at the bottom it says " <ok> but its not clickable ... i need to accept theese things but i cant figure out how lol
[23:18] <jrib> Ganharb: I imagine using proper punctuation would make it much easier to understand what you are asking
[23:18] <usr13> FireStorms: You are probablyy better off to fix what you have.
[23:18] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: sorry man, regarding the script in bin/bash that i asked before, how do i get it do write again the same file after "sleep 900" ?
[23:18] <jrib> Ganharb: try tab and space or enter
[23:19] <Ganharb> AAha! tab was the magic i needed...
[23:19] <Ganharb> tyty
[23:19] <FireStorms> usr13, thanks but that's the thing that ruined bluetooth for me :D
[23:19] <FireStorms> idk, guess I'll boot into Windows
[23:19] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, that is what the while true; do; done code does
[23:20] <usr13> FireStorms: Well, maybe someone else here has experience with Bluethooth, but I don't.
[23:20] <FireStorms> usr13, me neither, but I appreciate you trying to help :)
[23:21] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: oh now i got it!  it works!!!!!!
[23:22] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, glad to be of service :)
[23:22] <usr13> FireStorms: You chould try uninstalling Blueman.
[23:22] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: yeah thanks again man, very appreciated!!! :)
[23:22] <GregoryFenton> VlanZ, you may find that changing 900 to a lower amount will help if it still timeouts
[23:24] <VlanZ> GregoryFenton: yep, of course i've just did 10 seconds now to make sure i did it right :)
[23:27] <FireStorms> bon nuit
[23:34] <Danno_> is there anything in-built in ubuntu or anything i can download that would let me map the physical buttons on my tablet?
[23:35] <dssenthil> any experts in gSTM. i need a small help with Gnome Tunnel manager
[23:35] <jrib> Danno_: does anything show up when you press them in an « xev » window? (brb)
[23:36] <defaultro> ok folks, I'm in a bit of dilemma. I have a printer but doesn't have a driver for linux
[23:36] <goddard> im trying to install gnome-shell-extensions-apps-menu but im getting
[23:36] <goddard> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:36] <goddard>  gnome-shell-extensions-apps-menu : Depends: gnome-shell-extensions-common but it is not going to be installed
[23:36] <goddard> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[23:37] <|Anthony|> !pastebin | goddard
[23:37] <dssenthil> I want to make listen the tunneled port in my eth0 interface rather than <IP_ADDRESS> in gSTM.   We don't know about them.  The mint channel does.
[23:42] <veryhappy> ok
[23:42] <zodiak> zruty, or ethtool
[23:42] <veryhappy> have a nice day. bye
[23:42] <zruty> zodiak: Thanks! I will try that
[23:42] <jrib> Danno_: the key that you saw pop up ok on xev should be ready to use with something like xbindkeys for example.  For the others, you'll have to follow the wiki instructions
[23:43] <Danno_> @jrib ill give it a go, cheers! :-)
[23:43] <Smackbook> so i guess if you spend $1000 on a new ultrabook and linux doesnt support the wifi drivers you have to use windows or throw it in the trash
[23:44] <jrib> Smackbook: do you have a support question related to ubuntu?
[23:44] <zruty> zodiak: Works perfectly! Thanks again!
[23:44] <zodiak> Smackbook, or buy a mini usb dongle
[23:44] <zodiak> zruty, not a problem
[23:45] <bloodriver> does anyone know an alternative Firefox add-on to 'Siphon'?
[23:46] <zodiak> no idea what siphon is
[23:46] <Scunizi_> I had a snafu and ended up uninstalling LibreOffice (current from site) and reverting back to the older repo version.  Now the save dialogue is GTK based and ugly (in KDE/Kubuntu).  How do I get the kde decorations back for it?  Everything else looks good..( Kubutnu 11.10)
[23:46] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:47] <bloodriver> Siphon is a firefox add-on that syncs ALL of your addons
[23:47] <xangua> bloodriver: doesn't firefox sync already do that¿
[23:47] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:48] <bloodriver> Use Siphon to install you fav addons from on computer to another
[23:48] <bloodriver> firefox syncs bookmarks, not add-ons
[23:48] <Dr_willis> if you are going to spend $1000 for a ultrabook for linux, you should do some research first.
[23:49] <bloodriver> Siphon server seems to be down
[23:49] <Dr_willis> Err.. Firefox I think synced addons also.
[23:49] <Smackbook> i guess nobody saw me complaining about my wifi not working since I got disconnected ;(
[23:50] <Dr_willis> This is a support channel. not a complaint channel.
[23:50] <Smackbook> well i'm looking for suggestions
[23:50] <Smackbook> if there are any other than give up on ubuntu
[23:50] <brightspark> Smackbook, normally when I install linux on a laptop, I need to connect using ethernet in order to download the restricted driver that enables my wifi
[23:50] <zodiak> Smackbook, again.. usb dongle
[23:50] <zodiak> all $8 of it
[23:50] <awc737> does cinnamon work in ubu?
[23:51] <Smackbook> zodiak: after spending a grand on an ultrabook i dont want a junky usb dongle hanging out
[23:51] <Smackbook> but i guess thats a solution
[23:51] <zodiak> it's TEENY
[23:51] <zodiak> like almost flush
[23:51] <Smackbook> hmm
[23:51] <xangua> awc737: you have instructions on it's site http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ unsupported here
[23:51] <Smackbook> ok then i guess I will look into it
[23:51] <Dr_willis> awc737,  its not officially supported here.
[23:51] <Danno_> also, is there any way to make ubuntu treat a long press on the screen as a right click?
[23:52] <edve> Maybe you could google that...
[23:52] <awc737> is there anything for ubu that is supported, which isn't shitty UNity?
[23:52] <awc737> excuse my lang
[23:52] <edve> try gnome
[23:52] <Smackbook> awc737: gnome terminal
[23:52] <awc737> but also I don't mean a different desktop, I mean gnome based
[23:52] <Smackbook> i mean classic
[23:52] <bloodriver> i understand firefox addon sync is coming...but has it arrived yet?  which version?
[23:52] <awc737> gnome terminal?
[23:52] <Smackbook> theres also xfce and mint
[23:52] <awc737> i mean anything gtk3 base
[23:53] <edve> Try gnome , or if you have a low powered pc try Xubuntu
[23:53] <xangua> bloodriver: a long time ago
[23:53] <edve> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:53] <Smackbook> but gnome classic is the most usable
[23:53] <edve> i know
[23:53] <awc737> it's not a low powered pc, and I need gtk3 support
[23:53] <edve> then try mate
[23:53] <Smackbook> awc737: gnome-classic
[23:53] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:53] <Smackbook> its gnome2 interface built on gtk3
[23:53] <edve> it's an gnome 2 like environement
[23:54] <Smackbook> ubuntu has lots its majority share to Mate because of unity
[23:54] <Smackbook> from what I heard
[23:54] <edve> gnome classic < mate
[23:54] <induz> hello
[23:55] <edve> hi induz
[23:55] <Dr_willis> Mate is the kind of 'project' that could die off very quickly...
[23:55] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:55] <bloodriver> how do i get addon sync to work?
[23:55] <Smackbook> i have tried mate, xfce, and gnome classic and IMO gnome classic is the most supported, compatible, familiar one
[23:55] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  i just used the sync feature of firefox to sync to my accouts and it synced everything with my windows machine,  and my phone.
[23:56] <Dr_willis> 'most supported' is no longer valid. and  'compatible' is also   debateable.
[23:56] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, why this?
[23:56] <Dr_willis> aguitel_,  why what..
[23:56] <bloodriver> gonna research this...be back
[23:56] <jhkier> Good day to you all :)
[23:56] <aguitel_> Dr_willis, mate die
[23:56] <Dr_willis> bloodriver,  i did notice that the default firefox in Ubuntu has that 'sync' buttons not shown on the default home page.
[23:57] <Dr_willis> aguitel_,  its a 3rd party fork. when the main devs get bored with it. it could die off very fast. Ive seen many other projects die off . Like the 'keep kde3 alive project' or some other projects ive seen over the last decade.
[23:58] <awc737> awesome
[23:58] <awc737> is this gnome-classic gnome?
[23:58] <awc737> i mean new*
[23:58] <awc737> i am surprised i never heard of gnome-classis, with how much i like ubu but despise unity
[23:58] <awc737> is it pretty comparable to linux mint mate?
[23:58] <FloodBot1> awc737: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <Smackbook> awc737: its the old gnome, built on the new gnome
[23:59] <Dr_willis> Unity is getting some very neat features in 12.10 and will only i imagine will get better with each new release.
[23:59] <boldfilter> Unity sucks dick
[23:59] <Smackbook> Dr_willis: unfortunatly unity will always be the tablet interface nobody ever wanted on their desktop
[23:59] <zodiak> xfce ftw :)


[10:31] <sivang> morning all
[05:00] <highvoltage> hi. my @ubuntu.com e-mail address forwards to the e-mail address i registered with, but I can't change it. Who can I ask for help about this?
[05:01] <mdke> highvoltage, you need a launchpad admin I believe
[05:01] <mdke> not sure who is one...
[05:37] <highvoltage> jordi: hi there. you around?
[06:42] <copernic> hello, how can I report a bug in Rosetta please?
[06:44] <mdke> copernic, you can use the online interface called "malone", part of launchpad
[06:45] <copernic> hmm, is there an URL for that application?
[06:45] <mdke> sure
[06:45] <mdke> copernic, https://launchpad.net/products/rosetta/+bugs
[06:46] <copernic> great! thanks a bunch
[06:46] <mdke> not at all, sorry it wasn't easier to find
[06:51] <copernic> ok bug report done. for some reason rossetta displays textboxes in rtl direction in Azerbaijani translation pages
[06:53] <copernic> we use normal ltr direction, I hope it's easy to fix
[07:02] <mdke> copernic, i'm sure they can fix it
[08:16] <highvoltage> hi, got disconnected. can I ping any launchpad admins here?
[08:19] <jordi> highvoltage: hello
[08:20] <highvoltage> hi jordi
[08:20] <highvoltage> how can i change my forwarding address for the @ubuntu.com address?
[08:21] <highvoltage> launchpad uses the address I registered with, even though I removed it from my contact info in LP.
[08:22] <jordi> highvoltage: I assume you go to edit yor account and select another preferred email address?
[08:22] <highvoltage> jordi: I'm sure I've tried that, let me just double check
[08:25] <jordi> highvoltage: if that doesn't work, you'll probably need a real admin here :)
[08:26] <highvoltage> jordi: on my profile page, I have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as my preferred e-mail, and I'd like to keep it that way. I registered with<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but even though I've removed that from my confirmed e-mail list, I still get e-mail to there.
[08:27] <highvoltage> I'd like to forward to another address, but I can't find the place to specify it. Adding other e-mail addresses to prefferred e-mail address doesn't seem to work :/
[08:28] <jordi> highvoltage: I dunno then. Try later with kiko or stevea
[08:29] <highvoltage> jordi: thanks
[08:42] <mdke> highvoltage, is your @ubuntu.com address a real one or a launchpad redirect?
[08:42] <mdke> if the latter, you can't have it as your preferred email address I believe
[08:43] <highvoltage> mdke: it's the latter, but i've tried changing to to my preferred one, didn't work either :/
[08:43] <highvoltage> still getting mail at same account.
[08:43] <mdke> yeah it is broken
[08:44] <mdke> basically, your preferred account should be the one that @ubuntu.com redirects to, but at the moment it appears to be broken
[08:44] <mdke> you need an admin to do it for you
[08:44] <highvoltage> I know :)
[09:38] <jordi> SteveA: ping
[09:40] <jordi> SteveA, daf or any otrher: can you add simonep to the gnu-translators group in launchpad?
[10:52] <lifeless> moing
[10:56] <LarstiQ> hi :)
[11:43] <MotorCityMadMan> I'm going to try update firefox 1.0.7 to 1.5/ I'm new to this world / i've only used win o/s @@
[11:43] <mdke> MotorCityMadMan, i'm afraid we can't help you in here, this is #launchpad
[11:44] <lucasvo> MotorCityMadMan: go to #ubuntu
[11:44] <mdke> if you use ubuntu
[11:45] <MotorCityMadMan> i'm thinking a launchpad is a starting point / to get off the grown
[11:45] <mdke> MotorCityMadMan, no fraid not, it's a website - https://launchpad.net
[11:45] <lucasvo> mdke: right
[11:45] <lucasvo> MotorCityMadMan: launchpad is discussion for development tool-set and not for users of firefox, sorry
[11:46] <MotorCityMadMan> ok / yes i just installed ubuntu / i will look for the other place / thank you for your help and kindness
[11:47] <mdke> MotorCityMadMan, see this page too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:47] <mdke> good luck!
[11:48] <MotorCityMadMan> thank you :-)
[11:53] <MotorCityMadMan> #join #ubuntu