[13:47]  * jcrawford wishes he knew enough C
[13:47]  * jcrawford needs to get into C again heh
[13:48] <benc> I've created an upstart job for my app but its status is stop/working. how can I debug the problem?
[13:48] <dooglus> jcrawford: I don't think scanning on launch is a bug
[13:48] <vivek> need help can you help some one
[13:48] <vivek> please
[13:48] <bazhang> vivek, then ask a clear question
[13:49] <jcrawford> dooglus, no scanning on launch is not a bug but it should ignore filetypes it does not recognize I would consider that to be a bug
[13:49] <kostkon> jcrawford, indeed, a very old bug.
[13:50] <dooglus> I think it's bad that it doesn't tell me which file the problem is with
[13:50] <dooglus> I suspect it's an mp3
[13:50] <dooglus> but since it won't tell me, I can't be sure
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, any file that isn;t a song or image :S
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, sorry
[13:50] <kostkon> dooglus, you'll have to move them to other folders
[13:51] <mataks> !audio
[13:51] <dooglus> kostkon: that's not right.  it used to be fine with text and video files.  it's something I've added in the last week or so that is triggering the problem
[13:51] <kostkon> dooglus, don't know then :S
[13:51] <kostkon> dooglus, try to remember what you have added since last week
[13:52] <JordanC> Or just generate a list of recently installed :P
[13:52] <vilcoyot> Hi, I'm looking for a bash.org-like software. Does anybody know an open source solution ?
[13:52] <dooglus> kostkon: I added far too much last week
[13:52] <jcrawford> doogie, remove what you added since last week then add them one by one to find the conflicting file
[13:52] <jcrawford> haha
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: you need those plugins, they will give what you need
[13:52] <kostkon> dooglus, :/
[13:52] <jcrawford> remove it all and add it back in chunks i guess
[13:52] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: installing ubuntu-restricted-extras forces the uninstall of devede :(
[13:52] <JordanC> Don't remove it all, just remove stuff that is audio-related
[13:52] <dooglus> !info devede
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: then reinstall it after
[13:53] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: that forces the uninstall of other stuff: The following packages will be REMOVED
[13:53] <dooglus>   libavformat52 libpostproc51 libswscale0
[13:54] <apparle> how to edit the splash screen
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> !splash
[13:54] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I use Kubuntu
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> dooglus: the list at the bottom of the link will show you the plugin packages to install (gstreamer good bad ugly etc)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> apparle: ask in #kubuntu then
[13:55] <JediMaster> Hi guys, I've got a Cpanel based primary DNS server and I want to setup an ubuntu box as the secondary, I know it's a horrid dirty hack, but would rsyncing the zone files across hourly actually work? (rather than setting it up properly as a secondary dns and having to put each zone in by hand when creating one through cpanel)
[13:55] <jcrawford> what is Kubuntu?
[13:55] <apparle> Also how to change the GRUB splash screen
[13:55] <McPeter> jcrawford, ubuntu + KDE
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: (ubuntu - gnome - metacity ) + (kde + kwin)
[13:55] <JediMaster> jcrawford, it's ubuntu with KDE desktop instead of gnome
[13:55] <jcrawford> ah
[13:55] <folliculated34> hi guys, performance on my ar5001 with ath5k is bad. madwifi and ndiswrapper just don't work. but on my friend's it works very very well... what could be the problem?
[13:55] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I though it might be common procedure ..... and there is no reply fromkubuntu
[13:56] <python_root1> !ask
[13:56] <nonama_> apparle install those mentioned prgm in kubuntu...
[13:56] <BluesKaj> !kde | jcrawford
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> apparle: do you mean the loading xsplas rubbish or something else?
[13:56] <jcrawford> BluesKaj, i know what kde is :)
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> jcrawford: go find out
[13:56] <jcrawford> i prefer gnome right now :)
[13:56] <saa5> I am on Kubuntu 9.10 and it has been months since I've seen a notification to reboot or updates to installed software... I think that particular notification is broken on my system or disabled. what am I looking for?
[13:56] <dooglus> any idea how to get rhythmbox to rescan my music?  seems it doesn't want to do it again now.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> saa5: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:57] <BluesKaj> well, you asked about kubuntu , jcrawford , I assumed you needed to know why it's called that
[13:57] <saa5> Some days after reinstalling karmic I think I have now installed the most important packages. How can I find out, which ones these are (for the installation on another laptop)?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> saa5: you can even try: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:57] <spridel> dooglus,  you may want it to open folder
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> !clone | saa5
[13:57] <apparle> ActionParsnip: I want to change both the image at background of GRUB the one I see after I select the ubuntu
[13:57] <jcrawford> soon as someone said KDE i knew why it was named Kubuntu :)
[13:58] <apparle> nonama_: what do you mean prgm in kubuntu
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | apparle this shiws how to edit grub2 for a ackground
[13:58] <saa5> !automate
[13:58] <epinky> folliculated34: maybe {AP,router} misconfiguration
[13:58] <folliculated34> apparle, I don't know how they do it, but sidux uses custom grub splash screens for grub legacy
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> apparle: you should look in systemsettings for the kde splash stuff
[13:58] <saa5> !cloning
[13:58] <apparle> nonama_:  when I did !splash in kubuntu I got a reply why is not there
[13:58] <folliculated34> epinky, how? I've tried changing channels but no diff
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> people adding a background to grub2 is weird, its on the screen for like 4 seconds, why bother
[13:59] <epinky> folliculated34: a,b,g,N?
[13:59] <Zane2> ActionParsnip, lol
[13:59] <Zane2> i had mine set to 1 sec
[14:00] <fasta> How can I _really_ delete files from an USB key? I don't care about wiping.
[14:00] <nonama_> apparle ... sudo apt-get install  gnome-splashscreen-manager in kubuntu ...
[14:00] <apparle> ActionParsnip: Misunderstanding.... I wan to change the screen where..... kubuntu is written and the progress bar fills up..... before the logon screen
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> apparle: let me watch a vid of this. i dropped kde as soon a 4 came out and never looked back
[14:01] <LjL> fasta: it may be easier or much harder depending on the filesystem you have on it. i know it's not very easy with ext3 and ext4 (or at least, you're not guaranteed deletion)
[14:01] <dooglus> ActionParsnip: I just did "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-pitfdll" as suggested in that thread.  they were all "already the newest version".  I also installed the extras thing you mentions.  I still see the error.
[14:01] <fasta> LjL: NTFS
[14:01] <apparle> nonama_: Isn't there a direct method ... like editing a file etc... don't want to install this as it requires a lot of gnome dependencies
[14:02] <kostkon> dooglus, eh, do you have a 32bit or a 64bit isntallation?
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: uhm, actually it is "msdos" which I think is vfat.
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> apparle: like the 5 icons that light up?
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: hm i'm not sure about NTFS. anyway you can use "shred" or "wipe", although they're probably overkill for a USB key (they're meant for magnetic hard drives), so you probably want to use them with options telling them to only make one pass
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: I can reformat it if that would make things easier in the future.
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: vfat should be fine
[14:02] <apparle> ActionParsnip: vid=? 9.10 Kubuntu is awesome.... worth a try..... 4.3 is more stable than 3.5.x
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: I am not interested in wiping.
[14:02] <dooglus> kostkon: I have both, I dual boot.  I only use the 32bit one, because I can't get ndiswrapper to work on the 64bit partition, and the flash plugin is very flaky there too
[14:02] <fasta> LjL: just freeing up space.
[14:02] <LjL> fasta: uh... "rm"?!
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> apparle: i just dislike it now, too slow. LXDE is much to my tatses
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, then, try installing the w32codecs package from the medibuntu repo
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: I use the -pae 32bit kernel
[14:03] <kostkon> !medibuntu | dooglus
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, ok
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: I have w32codecs installed
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: "really" delete is usually meant as opposed to plain deleting.
[14:03] <kostkon> dooglus, oh, ok
[14:03] <Linux-IRC> Hello, how can i search members in ubuntuforums ?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> apparle: do you mean the thing with teh 5 icons and the large K on the right when it finally loads?
[14:03] <apparle> ActionParsnip: No.... before that.... the blue screen with kubuntu and a progress bar..... as there was for ubuntu before 9.10 in orange
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: if you just want to free up the space without secure deletion, use rm or your nautilus or anything.
[14:03] <fasta> LjL: the problem is that it ends up in my trash.
[14:03] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ?
[14:03] <LjL> fasta: use rm.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> apparle: yes thats xsplash
[14:03] <dooglus> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/323334/
[14:03] <Linux-IRC> Has anyone here an account in ubuntuforums?
[14:04] <kostkon> dooglus, then, there aren't any other codec packages you could install i think
[14:04] <Linux-IRC> Hello, how can i search members in ubuntuforums ?
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: ok, but how can I say "clean trash" then?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> apparle: look for xsplash themes, i think its startupmanager which can change that
[14:04] <LjL> fasta: haven't got a clue, i don't use gnome
[14:04] <BlouBlou> !repeat | Linux-IRC
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: ok, I will do it via CLI myself then.
[14:04] <LjL> !trash | fasta
[14:04] <dooglus> do I need to reboot after installing gstreamer plugins?
[14:04] <fasta> LjL: that is another trash.
[14:04] <kostkon> dooglus, no
[14:04] <dooglus> or log out and in again at least?
[14:05] <apparle> ActionParsnip: again a gnome program ..... don't have good enough download bandwidth to download all the associated gnome dependencies
[14:05] <fasta> LjL: the system is crazy ;)
[14:05] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ?
[14:05] <LjL> fasta: won't Shift+Del from nautilus result in direct deletion rather than trashing, anyway?
[14:05] <Linux-IRC> !repeat
[14:05] <kostkon> dooglus, then, you are getting the error because you have some let's say non-media files in the folders that rhythm is scanning
[14:05] <folliculated34> folliculated34, b
[14:06] <folliculated34> epinky, b
[14:06] <dooglus> kostkon: the error is about multiplexed ID3 tags
[14:06] <kostkon> dooglus, oh, right
[14:06] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ? will configuring a VLAN help ?
[14:06] <fasta> LjL: It should, but I don't remember whether or not I used that this time.
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> apparle: all i can suggest is flick around in systemsettings
[14:08] <Bersaresk> Hi, how can i install inkscape 0.46 in karmic koala (the only choice is 0.47pre4 which has errors)
[14:09] <jrib> Bersaresk: what errors?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> Bersaresk: if you can find a repo with it on yes, or compile the code for the older version
[14:10] <Bersaresk> inkscape crashes when i use patterns to fill...
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> Bersaresk: log a bug too
[14:10] <kostkon> dooglus, it could be that you may have some corrupted mp3s
[14:10] <apparle> ActionParsnip: did that earlier.... found nothing.... isn't there a direct method via CLI or editing files etc
[14:12] <matteo1990> Hi all, i have a problem with an external NTFS hard disk. I coonected it to my Laptop but nothing happens (usually when i turned it on Ubuntu opened it). So i went to /media. Here there are 4 folders cdrom, disk, disk-1. if i try to open disk or disk1 it says me that i have not the permission. When i try with sudo-su it seems that folder are empty... What to do? Thanks alot
[14:12] <dooglus> kostkon: it's possible, yes.  rhythmbox doesn't tell me which file has the problem, and I have rather a lot of mp3 files
[14:12] <jrib> matteo1990: have you tried mounting the disk yourself?
[14:13] <matteo1990> >jrib May u explain me how?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> apparle: no idea, i think xsplah is a waste of time and remove it
[14:13] <kostkon> dooglus, you could try http://mp3val.sourceforge.net/ or http://mp3diags.sourceforge.net/
[14:13] <jrib> matteo1990: pastebin the output of « sudo fdisk -l » and « mount ».  I'll be right back, making breakfast
[14:14] <matteo1990> >jrib never used pastebin... May i MP it to you?
[14:14] <Zane2> what does repo mean
[14:14] <LjL> matteo1990: just open the pastebin site, paste the thing you need to paste in it, then give him the URL that results.
[14:14] <bazhang> matteo1990, open a browser to paste.ubuntu.com and put it there
[14:14] <LjL> !repositories > Zane2    (Zane2, see the private message from ubottu)
[14:14] <Zane2> as in ppa
[14:14] <dooglus> Zane2: it's short for repository
[14:14] <Travis-42> in 64-bit ubuntu my flash player plugin has stopped working -- is there a way to reset it?
[14:15] <bazhang> Zane2, personal package archive
[14:15] <Zane2> ok thx
[14:15] <dooglus> Travis-42: I don't think flash really works in 64 bit
[14:15] <Travis-42> dooglus: it worked for me until 10 minutes ago
[14:15] <Zane2> this is all so different than windows
[14:15] <dooglus> Travis-42: for how long?  I find it works about 50% of the time.  other times it's completely unresponsive to mouse clicks
[14:16] <Travis-42> dooglus: I never had a problem until today since avoiding compiz.
[14:16] <IHS_Volunteer> Anyone here know how Arora(a simple webkit browser)  compares to firefox in terms of CPU and memory requirements? I'd figure arora is at least a little bit less resource hungry, but I don't know how much.
[14:16] <mataks> just wanna ask is there a program that is like Deep Freeze in windows? ....  that do a system restore everytime you boot..
[14:16] <gajan> Hi, we have a network operating system provisioning tool in place, but we are trying to test (a pilot) another that has many promishing features. How can we put both the DHCP server in the network ? will configuring a VLAN help?
[14:17] <LjL> mataks: what is a system restore?
[14:17] <IHS_Volunteer> LjL, it sandboxes the entire system
[14:17] <dooglus> LjL: I presume he wants to restore from a known state each boot
[14:17] <dooglus> LjL: like a 'norton ghost' image, say
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> mataks: you could setup an rsync to run at boot to copy every file from the surce to the destibation and overwrite all files
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> *source
[14:18] <mataks> ActionParsnip,  i find someone who write deep freeze script you might wanna check it out..  http://utux-utux.blogspot.com/2008/02/deepfreeze-for-linux-advance.html
[14:19] <LjL> mataks: a "restore" is not what deep freeze does. instead, it redirects writes to disk so that they don't actually happen.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> mataks: not someting i'm bothered for, i have data backups and file servers so my desktop can explode and i wouldnt care
[14:19] <Antagonist> This is propably a loaded question, but whats a good IDE for C++ development in ubuntu when moving from MS VS?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> mataks: there is no data on my desktop system and I can easily restore a system using my scripts after an install
[14:20] <erUSUL> Antagonist: anjuta; codeblocks; kdevelop ....
[14:21] <matteo1990> Here is my Pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/323347/
 mataks: there is no data on my desktop system and I can easily restore a system using my scripts after an install <-- nice.. got a script that restores system on boot?
[14:21] <[psyk]> So, I have an ASUS G60Vx gaming series laptop, and the recovery disks say they will only work on my PC. Now, I had a truecrypt disaster and lost the Truecrypt Recovery CD. If I wipe my HDD, will my recovery disks still work? Does anybody know how it checks that it's the specific machine?
[14:22] <paolob> Hi guys! a very strange thing: "ssh -X otherpc firefox" doesn't run the otherpc's firefox, but my computer's one. While "ssh -X otherpc epiphany" runs the otherpc's epiphany. What the hell is that?!?
[14:22] <IHS_Volunteer> I get the feeling restoring anything beyond the Home Folder would be rather tedious, and restoring the home folder would still delay boot a bit.
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> mataks: no but you could make one to mount an iso and rsync the files from the iso to the system every boot, it will make your boot incredibly slow, but will work
[14:22] <[psyk]> paolob: why not just make a .sh file to do it for you?
[14:22] <LjL> IHS_Volunteer: not to mention the user won't be stopped from dd'ing the entire hard drive in the first place, something that deep freeze prevents
[14:23] <BLUE_BALLS> how come when i go to yahoo.com the url changes to m.yahoo.com?
[14:23] <suigeneris> would you recommend genisoimage or dd for creating an iso?
[14:23] <[psyk]> So, I have an ASUS G60Vx gaming series laptop, and the recovery disks say they will only work on my PC. Now, I had a truecrypt disaster and lost the Truecrypt Recovery CD. If I wipe my HDD, will my recovery disks still work? Does anybody know how it checks that it's the specific machine?
[14:23] <IHS_Volunteer> I can dd a deepfreeze'd HD. Requires a LiveCD, but I can still do it...
[14:23] <dooglus> suigeneris: dd can't make iso files
[14:23] <mataks> ActionParsnip,  thnx but i don't want to slow up my boot.. :)   i don't know how to make scripts anyway.. hehe
[14:23] <ravn1> hey ppl, I just installed te new ubuntu 9.10, it works as a charm, however aptitude now says a whole lot of packages were autoadded and are no more needed, it's things like obex sever, so I get a bit worried, should I let aptitude remove them?
[14:23] <suigeneris> BLUE_BALLS, that's how they set it up
[14:24] <suigeneris> ravn1, yes
[14:24] <BLUE_BALLS> suigeneris, why would they change the url?
[14:24] <ravn1> are you sure?!?
[14:24] <fasta> How do I unlock my keyring if I never set it up?
[14:24] <suigeneris> no idea BLUE_BALLS
[14:24] <suigeneris> ravn1, yes
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> mataks: good to learn, copying copius amount of data especially over SATA will take ages
[14:24] <suigeneris> dooglus, yes
[14:26] <khamer> Why does ubuntu use <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/hosts and not just <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:26] <TuxOtaku> hey, so it's been a while now since the Karmic release....and I still haven't gotten a notice from update manager to upgrade.
[14:26] <TuxOtaku> any idea why?
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> khamer: its an old bug, some softwares use it afaik
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you give the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:27] <[psyk]> TuxOtaku: Are other updates displayed?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: use http://pastebin.com   to give te output
[14:27] <TuxOtaku> [psyk], yep, normal updates to jaunty continue as they should
[14:27] <IHS_Volunteer> TuxOtaku, distrobution upgrades (such as jaunty to karmic) or are you trying to update an exisiting karmic install?
[14:28] <IHS_Volunteer> I think he has LTS updates only enabled
[14:28] <TuxOtaku> IHS_Volunteer, nope, I checked that already
[14:28] <fasta> How can I delete the "default keyring"?
[14:29] <fasta> My keyring manager doesn't even list a "default keyring".
[14:30] <fasta> I already tried the password for the login keyring, of course.
[14:30] <folliculated34> hi guys, performance on my ar5001 with ath5k is bad. madwifi and ndiswrapper just don't work. but on my friend's it works very very well... what could be the problem?
[14:31] <folliculated34> My AP's on WEP, Chan 13, and on 802.11b
[14:31] <TuxOtaku> and ActionParsnip nothing out of the ordinary from dist-upgrade pops up
[14:31] <TuxOtaku> just normal, everyday updates.
[14:32] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> no new release found, cankoy
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> I've tried changing repositories as well
[14:32] <TuxOtaku> nuthin.
[14:33] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: is update-manager-core installed?
[14:33] <TuxOtaku> yup
[14:33] <rcaskey> hrmm, after upgrading I don't have a max/min button on my window frame, any clues? selecting a new theme changes the look but still no max/min buttons
[14:33] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: don't mess with the repo.s, they need to remain at Jaunty for upgrade to work
[14:34] <solomon> so I'm on karmic with three heads, and I wanted to move the status area from one head to the other, and i was silly enough to first remove it from one with the intention of adding it to the other rather than just doing 'move'.  now gnome-panel seems to be re-starting perpetually, making it impossible to actually use
[14:34] <renata> Can I newbie like me establish a SSH connection for data transfer between xubuntu and opensuse? I need to connect two laptops on the same network
[14:34] <TuxOtaku> cankoy, no no, I know that...I mean I've tried changing from say, the Canadian repos to the american ones
[14:34] <folliculated34_> rcaskey, metacity or compiz?
[14:34] <rcaskey> metacity
[14:34] <TuxOtaku> err...mirrors I should say, not repos
[14:34] <solomon> anybody got a suggestion of how to end this madness? :)
[14:34] <folliculated34_> renata, sure, why not? ssh (ip)
[14:35] <renata> folliculated34_, what does it take?
[14:35] <folliculated34_> rcaskey, I'm not sure where it is, but metacity's settings are somewhere in gconf-editor
[14:35] <SikEnCide> renata ssh can run an any operatin system out there.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: so upgraded 0 etc?
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, aye.
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> well
[14:35] <TuxOtaku> no
[14:36] <folliculated34_> renata, ssh is the package name
[14:36] <renata> SikEnCide, thanks, i wish i knew where to start
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> it lists a couple of updates to gcc and such, I've done those
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip,
[14:36] <TuxOtaku> The following packages have been kept back:
[14:36] <TuxOtaku>   dpkg-dev g++ lib32asound2 libc6-i386
[14:36]  * rcaskey goes on a hunch and checks to see if metacity's system-wide schema needs to be reintroduced into gconf
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: try launching software sources and make sure the release upgrade is set to normal: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ubuntu-linux-software-source.jpg
[14:37] <renata> folliculated34_, Ok, I will install it along with openssh-server. Is that right?
[14:37] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, dude I'm like 5 steps ahead of you
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: good :)
[14:38] <TuxOtaku> I've checked all this stuff already a dozen times
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file please
[14:38] <TuxOtaku> sure, sec.
[14:38] <renata> folliculated34_, are there anymore packages I need to have to start process?
[14:38] <folliculated34_> the server I think is only for hosts, ssh is all you need to connect from ubuntu to suse
[14:38] <folliculated34_> renata, ssh only I think
[14:39] <pawel0411> Elo
[14:39] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, http://slexy.org/view/s2ybbUlr7h
[14:39] <pawel0411> elo
[14:39] <pawel0411> elo
[14:40] <pawel0411> widac moje posty?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: you dont have any of the ubuntu.com repos there
[14:40] <pawel0411> #ubuntu
[14:40] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, yes, those are ubuntu repos. the university of waterloo here in Ontario mirrors them
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: can you pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a
[14:41] <pawel0411> ,save
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: well not very well or you'd be getting lots of updates
[14:41] <renata> folliculated34_, sorry for bothering, I appreaciate your help. I would be glad if you could tell me what's next after install?
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, I've tried switching back to the default mirrors. nothing happens.
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> nothing at all.
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <TuxOtaku> like I said, I've done all this crap before
[14:41] <pawel0411> hello
[14:41] <FloodBot1> pawel0411: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: i suggest using the official repos. I can give you my sources file, it is karmic but all the repos have jaunty on them too
[14:41] <folliculated34_> renata, 'ssh (ip of host)'
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, been there, done that. still no update.
[14:42] <cankoy> TuxOtaku: can you reach http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> cankoy, yep
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: then i don't know what to suggest, try adding an extra repo, see if the updates come down.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: do you use vlc?
[14:42] <renata> folliculated34_, in terminal? is 'host' another computer I want to connect?
[14:42] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, what does VLC have to do with anything?
[14:43] <echelon_> yes, forums helped me get broadcom to work with 9.10
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: if we add the repo for vlc 1.0.3 and you run the updates, you should get the new version, showing that updates work
[14:43] <folliculated34_> renata, yes to both questions :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: think outside the box
[14:44] <TuxOtaku> ActionParsnip, ok, gimme a sec, and I'll add it...I just had an idea
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: here is the repo to add: https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/vlc
[14:44] <TuxOtaku> hah!!!
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: add that and its key and see if you get the update offered (assuming you have vlc 1.0.2 installed already)
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, can you recommend a tutorial for wifi setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> I just downloaded the upgrade tool manually and ran it as root
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> screw you, update manager! :P
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[14:45] <jrib> TuxOtaku: erm, "upgrade tool"?
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> jrib, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic-proposed/main/dist-upgrader-all/0.126.9/karmic.tar.gz
[14:45] <desperate> Does anyone know how I 'point' my IM client empathy to IRC.FREENODE.NET:6667
[14:45] <TuxOtaku> :)
[14:45] <NeoCicak> i believe i'm not the only one who complain that 9.10 is a lot slower than 9.04, without getting any response from ubuntu team?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> jrib: +1
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: thats how i do it
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: runs fine here, is your system fairly fast or is it like mine and a dinosaur
[14:46] <renata> folliculated34_, did that, but nothing really happened...
[14:46] <jrib> TuxOtaku: sounds like a great way to break things :)
[14:47] <dalfz> i need to apply a patch to wine and recompile, how do i do this with in conjuction with the package system?
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> hi all
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> jrib: scarey stuff
[14:47] <jrib> !source | dalfz
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> jrib, well, we'll see won't we
[14:47] <dalfz> thanks
[14:47] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: its fairly fast......... and it was ok with 9.04... btw..... its just the boot up time that is ridiculously slow....... and logging in to gnome is like talking to my grandma
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> I have a problem with my ldap server
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> TuxOtaku: if it works then great
[14:47] <wesley_> any here who has experience with remote distance controle
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> if it does, f*** it, I'm moving to opensuse.
[14:47] <M4K4V3l1> I just can't start it
[14:47] <TuxOtaku> :P
[14:47] <wesley_> vnc
[14:47] <jrib> dalfz: before rebuilding, apply the patch and increment the version number using "dch -i" and append something like "~dalfz1" to the version
[14:47] <jrib> TuxOtaku: better to actually fix the issue
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: some have said that, its meant to be sped / speeded (never worked that one out and I'm english) up though
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: have a read through:   dmesg | less     and note the time on the left side, big gaps show you where problems are
[14:48] <dalfz> jrib, thanks, trying
[14:48] <folliculated34_> renata, what exactly happened?
[14:48] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: really? is there some sort of doco that explains how to do this 'speed up' ?
[14:48] <TuxOtaku> jrib, true enough. chalk it up to impatience if you like.
[14:49] <jcrawford> hey guys is there an easy way to get OpenJDK off the system and Sun's JDK on the system?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: not sure, i havent dug around that way much as i just let it do its thing
[14:49] <jrib> !multijava | jcrawford
[14:49] <jrib> !java > jcrawford
[14:49] <jcrawford> thanks
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: slow boot can definately be diagnosed with dmes though
[14:49] <jcrawford> well i would want the JDK not just the JRE
[14:50] <renata> folliculated34_, another line appeared
[14:50] <jrib> jcrawford: same directions, just install the right sun- package
[14:50] <jrib> !info sun-java6-jdk
[14:50] <jcrawford> usage: update-java-alternatives [--jre-headless] [--jre] [--plugin] [ -t|--test|
[14:50]  * archet45 FREAKING LOVES ubuntu/linux :)
[14:51] <folliculated34_> renata, a blank line or the prompt?
[14:51] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: hmmm... authenticating with wlan0
[14:51] <jrib> jcrawford: -l will list what is available to you (I'm guessing you didn't paste the whole usage line)
[14:51] <Antagonist> Whats the difference between apt-get and synaptic package manager?  Is the latter just a GUI of the former or is there more to it?
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [   53.074910] hdaps: driver successfully loaded.
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.526024] wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.528582] wlan0: authenticated
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.528585] wlan0: associate with AP 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68
[14:51] <NeoCicak> [  124.535881] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:0f:b5:54:f3:68 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)
[14:51] <FloodBot4> NeoCicak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <maveas> Antagonist: Yep
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: don't flood dude, use pastebin
[14:51] <jcrawford> yep all set reading the webpage now :) thanks jrib
[14:51] <maveas> Antagonist: Not a GUI of the former..
[14:51] <renata> folliculated34_, the line where I can enter another command
[14:52] <mikebeecham> hi guys, I've uninstalled pulseaudio in the hopes of trying to resolve a sound issue.  I want to go back to ALSA for a while, but dont know what to install in the repos...can anyone point me in the right direction?
[14:52] <jrib> Antagonist: they are both frontends to APT.  One is a gui, the other is a cli
[14:52] <maveas> Antagonist: Sorry
[14:52] <Antagonist> maveas: Okay, so if I want to install application xyz, how do I go about it?
[14:52] <jrib> !software > Antagonist
[14:52] <folliculated34_> renata, hmm...
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: looks like your wifi driver is slowing down the show, you can run:   sudo lshw -C network   to find the chip and find some guides to get you righted
[14:52] <maveas> Antagonist: Pretty easy.. if you're a noob open up Synaptic and search for the app..
[14:52] <Antagonist> That should do it ta
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: hmmm.. this doesnt happen in 9.04 though......
[14:53] <renata> folliculated34_, I am on xubuntu, not ubuntu, btw
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: and it is slow only on cold login..
[14:53] <NeoCicak> ActionParsnip: i.e. if i log out now, and log back in.. its quite snappy
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: different kernel dude, may even be a bug with the module it uses
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> NeoCicak: 9.04 uses 9.04 kernel and 9.04 kernel modules, karmic uses a different kernel and modules
[14:54] <folliculated34_> renata, what about 'ssh (username)@(ip of host)'?
[14:54] <IHS_Volunteer> mikebeecham, ALSA is a dependancy of Pulseaudio, but removing pulse audio doesn't remove alsa. So you already have ALSA, though the 9.10 GUI doesn't include controls for it by default
[14:55] <jcrawford> what's it mean when i get errors like this?: update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for mozilla-javaplugin.so.
[14:55] <renata> folliculated34_, the same...
[14:55] <jrib> jcrawford: just means you don't have any package providing a java plugin
[14:55] <dalfz> uh, when i grab something with apt-get source, what path can i find the source in?
[14:56] <jrib> dalfz: cwd
[14:56] <jcrawford> jrib, so will this default switch not work?
[14:56] <jrib> jcrawford: it will still change the rest of the alternatives
[14:56] <mikebeecham> IHS_Volunteer: thanks for that.  So, how do I revert back to the sound option that came prior to the upgrade to Karmic?
[14:56] <folliculated34_> renata, sorry, I don't know... do you have the ssh server/host on the host?
[14:57] <jcrawford> ok and once default is changed can i remove the openjdk or should i leave it installed?  I ask because when i went to remove it said it was also going to remove default-jdk
[14:57] <M4K4V3l1> I think that slapd package is buggy in Ubuntu hardy
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> M4K4V3l1: log a bug then
[14:57] <jrib> jcrawford: you can leave it or remove it, doesn't really matter
[14:57] <jcrawford> ok
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> !bug | M4K4V3l1
[14:58] <dalfz> jrib, sorry, what do you mean 'cwd' ?
[14:58] <jrib> dalfz: current working directory
[14:58] <renata> folliculated34_, I guess so, btw, Ive managed to connect this machine (xubuntu 9.10) from opensuse, Ive typed sftp://(ip of this machine/ in nautilus.
[14:58] <dalfz> jrib, aha :)
[14:59] <wesley_> does anyone know howto make vnc  server client work
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: do you mean the server or the client?
[14:59] <folliculated34_> renata, I don't really know why, sorry.
[15:00] <renata> folliculated34_, thanks for you help
[15:00] <fasta> Which package contains boost/shared_ptr.hpp? My apt-file doesn't work on karmic.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: theres a good guide here for vino: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[15:01] <wesley_> i mean the server  well i know you can use tsclient but what i don't get is  in all manuals of youtube they talk about  192.168.X.X ip but that is a intern lan ip
[15:01] <jcrawford> how can i find out where the Sun Java 6 JDK was installed to?  I need the path to specify for NetBeans
[15:02] <jrib> jcrawford: dpkg -L PACKAGE
[15:02] <jcrawford> thanks
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: if you are using VNC over web, DEFIANTELY use an ssh tunnel. VNC has zero security
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: the transmission is not encrypted so transmissions can be captured
[15:03] <hlp> I'm having trouble with /usr/local/man : I can't cd into it or write to it (as root)
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: also you will need to port forward the various ports from your router to the system running the server to get the connection
[15:03] <jrib> hlp: why do you want to?
[15:03] <hlp> perl make install
[15:03] <wesley_> yes i  did read somthing about that so my friends computer has  sudo apt-get install done
[15:04] <inivex> wesley_: i think you should reconsider making a vnc server accessible to the world on standard ports...
[15:04] <jrib> hlp: what?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> hlp: i just did with cd /usr/local/man; sudo cp <some file> .
[15:04] <wesley_> also a x11vnc -storepasswd
[15:04] <jcrawford> thanks for all the help jrib
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: you need to configure the router to allow the traffic, or it will drop it due to the firewalling nature of nat
[15:05] <jrib> jcrawford: no problem
[15:05] <munzir> Hi, if I used gdm to boot kubuntu, no reboot or shutdown buttons on the menu! why?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | wesley_
[15:05] <wesley_> they told me not to open the 5900 port but use ssh
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: use an ssh tunnel for security, the guide shows how to set it up
[15:06] <wesley_> we both use a router to acces the internet
[15:06] <wesley_> so we both have a internal ip adress
[15:07] <hullo> I had vnc's default vnc server running without password auth on w auto configiure network checked and I watched someone login
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: if you are on the same network it is ok, if you are connecting to the other router via the web then use ssh
[15:07] <hullo> my router isn't even fwding 5900
[15:07] <hlp> jrib: I mean perl Makefile.PL; make ; make install
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> wesley_: you will need to connect to the WAN IP of the other router (can be found out if the server side visits http://www.ipchicken.com)
[15:08] <folliculated34_> hmm... rdesktop or *VNC?
[15:08] <ceekays> Hie there!
[15:08] <ceekays> I am using Ubuntu 9.04, I have installed BDDesigner 4 on wine-1.0.1. I am failing to connect to my databases. What might be the problem?
[15:08] <Antagonist> Hmm, I'm planning on dual-booting ubuntu and gentoo.  Is there any good way to have them share downloaded files to prevent me from downloading the same app twice for each OS?
[15:08] <mclur3> I have a shitty ati radeon 1250 card. ok performance in 9.10 but not in 9.04. due to the newer kernel? possible to fix the issue in 9.04?
[15:08] <hullo> forgot to identify heh
[15:09] <jrib> hlp: pastebin your commands and the full output.  Usually people install from the repositories or CPAN though.  Are you sure your library isn't in the repositories?
[15:09] <hlp> ActionParsnip: I know, it works on other systems
[15:09] <hlp_> ActionParsnip: I know, it works on other systems
[15:09] <jrib> erm
[15:10] <carl-m> the numeric keypad does not work in a terminal. I an fix this with xmodmap, but is there some hidden preference somewhere that will fix it automatically?
[15:10] <IdleOne> ceekays: try #winehq
[15:10] <ceekays> thanks
[15:10] <hlp_> jrib: when I download the perl modules and download them by hand, they still don't work
[15:10] <hlp_> I'm really thinking the problem is with linux, not perl
[15:10] <hlp_> at least on my machine
[15:10] <mitsos> irc://irc.rizon.net:6667/tzatziki-fansubs
[15:10] <hlp_> since I can't write to it as root
[15:11] <jrib> hlp_: you managed to answer either of my two questions :)
[15:11] <xae8koo> How do I know if my swap is working?
[15:11] <jrib> *neither*
[15:11] <folliculated34_> so guys, what's better in your opinion... VNC or rdesktop?
[15:11] <Antagonist> OSS'es always come in at least two's, don't they?
[15:11] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, just mount them
[15:12] <mitsos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:12] <mitsos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:12] <Antagonist> folliculated34_: I mean, can I just setup Ubuntu to use source code, and point it to gentoo's downloaded source code directory?  And if its not there it will download it?
[15:13] <mitsos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:13] <mitsos><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:14] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, wait... I thought you meant compiled binaries from upstream, the kind that comes in tarballs?
[15:14] <cankoy> xae8koo: gnome-system-monitor
[15:14] <fasta> How can I get my nvidia card to work on Karmic?
[15:14] <xae8koo> cankoy: It nevers says I use any swap...
[15:15] <xae8koo> cankoy: 0 bytes of 8,3 GiB
[15:15] <thiebaude> fasta, system-administration-hardware drivers
[15:15] <Will123456> fasta: do you mean you want the proprietary nvidia drivers to work for your card?
[15:15] <Antagonist> folliculated34_: Would gentoo portagepackages  and ubuntu packages even be interchangable?  I'm not so sure
[15:15] <folliculated34_> Antagonist, ubuntu's packages have ubuntu and debian specific patches... they most likely won't work on geentoo
[15:15] <BluesKaj> fasta, which nvidia card?
[15:15] <fasta> Will123456, yes.
[15:15] <fasta> BluesKaj, 8800 something
[15:15] <jrib> hlp_: do you know what you have to do?
[15:15] <bostikforever> what is the use of the alternate cd?
[15:16] <cankoy> xae8koo: ... of 8.3 Gb  <- so you have swap on
[15:16] <bostikforever> can it be used for recovery?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> fasta, in the terminal : lspci | grep VGA
[15:16] <hlp_> jrib: I don't
[15:16] <xae8koo> cankoy: Yes, 8,3 GiB of swap, but none of it is used
[15:16] <cankoy> xae8koo: you have lot of RAM, and the system does not need to swap anything. That's good.
[15:16] <fasta> BluesKaj,  lspci | grep VGA
[15:17] <jrib> hlp_: pastebin your commands and the full output.  Usually people install from the repositories or CPAN though.  Are you sure your library isn't in the repositories?
[15:17] <thiebaude> !swap
[15:17] <fasta> BluesKaj, [GeForce 8800 GT]
[15:17] <xae8koo> cankoy: No, I could only afford 4 GiB for my laptop:(
[15:17] <catmando> hey question: i've added an nfs share to /etc/fstab with the user option turned on
[15:18] <catmando> but i still get an "only root can do that" error
[15:18] <flexxxv> hello, why I was sent to this ubuntu proxy channel (i'm not using _any_ proxy)
[15:19] <jrib> flexxxv: aren't you using the webchat?
[15:19] <flexxxv> is that a proxy?
[15:19] <DJones> catmando: How are you editing /etc/fstab? you need to use the sudo or gksudo prefix, eg sudo nano /etc/fstab or gksudo gedit /etc/fstab to give you admin access to the /etc folder
[15:19] <jrib> flexxxv: yes
[15:19] <flexxxv> ok
[15:19] <bostikforever> what is the use of the alternate cd?
[15:19] <bostikforever> can it be used for recovery?
[15:19] <jrib> !alternate | bostikforever
[15:19] <flexxxv> what is the easiest  way to downrgrade grub2 in a not working ubuntu wubi enviroment?
[15:20] <flexxxv> live cd, chrott and then?
[15:20] <cankoy> xae8koo: you have lot of RAM *compared to what you're running and their requirements*, hence nothing swaps out yet.
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> I need help getting sound drivers
[15:20] <fasta> BluesKaj, yes?
[15:20] <xae8koo> cankoy: Guess I need something new to run then :)
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> i need help getting sound drivers
[15:21] <catmando> DJones, sudo
[15:21] <bostikforever> thanks
[15:21] <catmando> DJones, it's definitely saved, if that's what you're asking
[15:21] <cankoy> xae8koo: if you want to stress test.. there're other ways
[15:21] <isojussi> http://pastebin.com/m3bd37c2c, my ubuntu upgrade wen't wrong somehow. when running from live cd apt-get upgrade I get that error. any help?
[15:21] <flexxxv> after loop mounting imagefile and chroot to it, can I use apt-get ?
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> marchingknight11: what do you wanna use? ALSA/OSS etc
[15:21] <space_cadet> i can't play FLV files
[15:21] <space_cadet> at all
[15:21] <thiebaude> !flv
[15:21] <DJones> catmando: Thats what I was wondering, I thought you meant you couldn't save the amended fstab file
[15:21] <aeon-ltd> space_cadet: what media player are you using?
[15:22] <space_cadet> DJones,    don't work
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: i dont know what to use, i just want to get my sound working
[15:22] <space_cadet> aeon-ltd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8354217#post8354217
[15:22] <Dnrock> http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6034/screenshottu.png << the Nexuig Game will be loss if i remove there files ???
[15:22] <mind_eraser> I'm having some trouble with hibernate on 9.04 on a Lenovo g530, which used to work just fine. The error I was originally getting was not enough swap, looking into it it appeared that my system was no longer recognizing my 6G swap partition, only seeing 8M of it, most of which were used. I recreated the partition using mkswap and swapon etc (I could go into more detail on this if needed - the upshot is that according to top it is
[15:22] <mind_eraser> being recognized now). The problem is I still can't hibernate. It appears to go into a normal hibernation but on restart none of my running apps return. I can't think of where to check now. Any ideas?
[15:22] <aeon-ltd> Marchingknight11: do a sudo apt-get alsa then do alsamixer and use arrow keys and 'M' to configure
[15:23] <mind_eraser> Sorry for the flood post
[15:23] <space_cadet> Reading state information... Done
[15:23] <space_cadet> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version.
[15:23] <triptec> my ubuntu 9.10 changes ip even though I got iface eth0 inet static and address, netmask, gateway in my interfaces file. The ip seems to come from my dhcp.. any idea why?
[15:23] <thiebaude> space_cadet, you try medibuntu?
[15:23] <Marchingknight11> alsamixer is already installed
[15:23] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: I have a Lenovo G550 :D
[15:23] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: alsamixer is already installed
[15:23] <space_cadet> thiebaude, yes i have
[15:23] <M4K4V3l1> is there someone pro in openLdap ?
[15:24] <flexxxv> in chroot do i have network? is apt-get just working?
[15:24] <M4K4V3l1> I got some beginner problems here
[15:24] <mind_eraser> xae8koo: Not a bad machine, eh? Is your hibernate working?
[15:24] <blackxored> Hi, pidgin isn't showing in indicator-applet, anyone with similar behaviour has found a workaround for this?
[15:24] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: what's the trouble?
[15:25] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: No idea
[15:25] <aeon-ltd> Marchingknight11: open a terminal and type alsamixer and use the arrow keys to change settings
[15:25] <xae8koo> mind_eraser: It is a bit noisy
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: what settings do i have to change
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> ?
[15:25] <fasta> thiebaude, that also doesn't work with a proxy.
[15:25] <space_cadet> so anyone have any answers as to why i cannot play FLV files in Karmic?
[15:25] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: thank you for answering.. everything is pasted here : http://paste.debian.net/51978/
[15:25] <gijzelaar> question: does anybody know a ubuntu alternative for the mac 'open' command? Open a file/directory with the default file handler in gnome
[15:25] <fasta> I will just get them of the nvidia website.
[15:25] <Marchingknight11> everything is maxed out and nothing is muted
[15:25] <catmando> DJones, no, the file is definitely saved, it just doesn't seem to work
[15:25] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: in summary the problem is simply that I can't run slapd
[15:25] <folliculated34_> gijzelaar, gnome-open
[15:26] <flexxxv> space_cadet  instal some codecs?
[15:26] <mind_eraser>  xae8koo haha ok
[15:26] <gijzelaar> GREAT
[15:26] <xae8koo> Nov 20 16:24:21 xae8koo-laptop dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
[15:26] <gijzelaar> yes that is what I want, thanks! :)
[15:26] <rhsanborn> join #java
[15:26] <space_cadet> flexxxv, i did.
[15:26] <xae8koo> Why wont it let me dhcp start?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> fasta, like thiebaude said earlier ,  system-administration-hardware drivers , make sure you choose the nvidia-glx-185
[15:26] <flexxxv> space_cadet  instal or just try vlc?
[15:26] <thiebaude> fasta, did you have ubuntu search for the drivers?
[15:26] <DJones> catmando: How are you testing whether it restarts?
[15:26] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: select the bars and press up and ,max out all bars and if they show MM press 'm'
[15:26] <thiebaude> i have almost the same card, fasta
[15:26] <flexxxv> get more odecs from mediabuntu
[15:26] <thiebaude> its easy
[15:26] <fasta> BluesKaj, I already did. IT DOESN'T WORK, BECAUSE UBUNTU DEVELOPERS IGNORE PROXIES.
[15:27] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: eveything is maxed and nothing is muted
[15:27] <DJones> catmando: Sorry, I mean how are you testing whether the nfs folder is mounted
[15:27] <BluesKaj> fasta, what has proxies got to do with it ?
[15:27] <space_cadet> flexxxv, would if i could but apparently i cannot
[15:27] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, exactly 185 driver recommended
[15:27] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: well I'm not sure what slapd is, but you're having permissions problems
[15:27] <catmando> DJones, it works when i do it as root
[15:27] <fasta> BluesKaj, well, tjee, what might the purpose be?
[15:28] <hlp> jrib: here's the perl output http://paste.ubuntu.com/323419/
[15:28] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: right?
[15:28] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: press F6 and try another sound card
[15:28] <space_cadet> flexxxv, http://pastebin.com/m15977250
[15:28] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: everything is chmod 777 now
[15:28] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: what version are you using and how clean is it?
[15:28] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: F6 doesnt do anything
[15:28] <flexxxv> you typed: apt-get install vlc?
[15:29] <hlp> jrib: and here's the somewhat cryptic output when I try to cd or mkdir in /usr/local : http://paste.ubuntu.com/323420/
[15:29] <space_cadet> yes
[15:29] <space_cadet> i sure did
[15:29] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, any idea what he/she means ...I'm clueless
[15:29] <space_cadet> and that's what i got
[15:29] <flexxxv> space_cadet: tried apt-get update?
[15:29] <space_cadet> no i'm retarded, i never update before an install
[15:29] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: do the speakers work in another OS?
[15:29] <space_cadet> ^^ sarcasm
[15:29] <Marchingknight11> yes in windows
[15:29] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:yes in windows 7
[15:29] <flexxxv> try it
[15:29] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, no, and i though ubuntu notifies you when drivers are ready to install, like it did for me
[15:30] <JonathanEllis> I have a HP C7710A connected to the computer with USB. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron. x-sane detects the scanner as a 7400c:002. When I try to acquire a preview, x restarts
[15:30] <blackxored> pidgin doesn't show at indicator-applet, do you guys know why?
[15:30] <thiebaude> thats the first thing i install after a clean install
[15:30] <xae8koo> I'm planning on using my Asus EEE as an server. To use for bittorrent. Is that a good idea? It has 1gb ram and 800mhz cpu.
[15:30] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I mean your OS, not slapd
[15:30] <BluesKaj> thiebaude, problem solved , he left :)
[15:31] <flexxxv> space_cadet: if you get errors poste them
[15:31] <thiebaude> BluesKaj, ahh, ok
[15:31] <space_cadet> heh heh heh
[15:31] <space_cadet> [swf @ 0x8b75400]Compressed SWF format not supported
[15:31] <space_cadet> [0x8b93a90] avformat demux error: av_open_input_stream failed
[15:31] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: I understand the solid state drive may take a hammering if you do that
[15:31] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: what sound card does it say you have in alsamixer
[15:31] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I am running ubuntu server TLS "hardy".. the slapd version is : @(#) $OpenLDAP: slapd 2.4.9 (Mar 31 2009 07:12:16) $
[15:31] <M4K4V3l1> 	buildd@rothera:/build/buildd/openldap2.3-2.4.9/debian/build/servers/slapd
[15:31] <space_cadet> so again.... anyone know why i can't play FLV files in Karmic?  Even with VLC?
[15:31] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:HDA Intel
[15:31] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: I am planning to use external drives for the files... The ssd just for the os.
[15:32] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd: Chip is REaltek ALC268
[15:32] <bazhang> M4K4V3l1, debian?
[15:32] <M4K4V3l1> bazhang: no it's ubuntu
[15:32] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Anyway, why are you using a netbook as a server?
[15:32] <flexxxv> which ubuntu?
[15:32] <flexxxv> any extra sources?
[15:32] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: it jumped of my table and broke the screen.
[15:33] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Is it still under warranty?
[15:33] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: hardy : 8.04
[15:33] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: Beside, it is small, quiet and uses little power. No warranty.
[15:33] <M4K4V3l1> server version
[15:33] <xrfang> if I export an environment variable, it will be effective only for my current shell, how can I make it system wide effective (without reboot, i.e. not that I don't know to put it in /etc/profile or /etc/rc.local)
[15:33] <flexxxv> post output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:33] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I don't think my knowledge of permissions can help you in this case, except you could check in users-admin and be sure your root (or maybe user?) has access to relevant devices
[15:33] <rgr> JonathanEllis: I great idea for an underpowered machine like that. Would make a great bittorrent server for him to download.
[15:34] <kb3cda> Morning all, ne1 know of a good ANSI capable telnet client for Ubuntu?
[15:34] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1:are you sure your flv isn't corrupted?
[15:34] <space_cadet> so... no one has the answer to my FLV problems?
[15:34] <thiebaude> bbl
[15:34] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: You might be able to get a replacement screen on Ebay. Well if its bust already then I suppose you have nothing to lose. Bittorrent doesnt place a particularly high load on the processor so why not
[15:34] <space_cadet> yes i'm sure.
[15:34] <space_cadet> i can play them in windows
[15:34] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, libavcodec from where?
[15:34] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: it's not a problem persmission : I fix it with : chmod 777
[15:34] <aeon-ltd> MarchingKnight11: sorry out of ideas, have you searched ubuntuwiki?
[15:34] <paschu> HEY GUYS
[15:34] <Marchingknight11> aeon-ltd:thanks anyway
[15:34] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: what ?
[15:34] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: I just bougth a faster laptop instead. Netbook was starting to go on my nerves :P
[15:35] <paschu> Is there a working nintendo 64 emulator? mupen64plus has sum problems with the sound
[15:35] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1: what is in your sources.list?
[15:35] <space_cadet> folliculated34_,  huh?
[15:35] <IHS_Volunteer> sum problems? does it also have remainder and product problems, paschu?
[15:36] <paschu> IHS_Volunteer: what?
[15:36] <folliculated34_> I don't think the libavcodec from the official ubuntu repositories plays mp4-aac (or whatever audio codecs most flv's come with now)
[15:36] <flexxxv> M4K4V3l1: try to open youtube link to see if that works
[15:36] <IHS_Volunteer> paschu, sum= the result of addition.
[15:36] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, I don't think the libavcodec from the official ubuntu repositories plays mp4-aac (or whatever audio codecs most flv's come with now)
[15:36] <space_cadet> well if it were an actual package.
[15:36] <space_cadet> E: Couldn't find package libavcodec
[15:36] <folliculated34_> libavcodec52
[15:36] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: deb http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[15:36] <M4K4V3l1> deb-src http://ma.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[15:36] <JonathanEllis> xae8koo: Fair enough. Well, nothing to stop you then. And as you say its low powered so it probably doesnt matter if you leave it on 24/7. I dont know if that might cause over-heating problems or death of the battery through overcharging as I dont think those machines are designed to be left on 24/7 but hey what do you have to lose?
[15:36] <paschu> I dont know what you mean, but i need a working n64 emulator
[15:37] <space_cadet> libavcodec52 is already the newest version.
[15:37] <IHS_Volunteer> paschu, I was mocking your incorrect spelling.
[15:37] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, where did you get it?
[15:37] <mind_eraser> Can anyone help me with a hibernation problem? I posted a pretty thorough description not long ago, but don't want to flood the channel again unless needed
[15:37] <M4K4V3l1> flexxxv: you talk with the wrong person.. I have a problem with openldap.. not flash plugging
[15:37] <IHS_Volunteer> I guess it went over your head. :(
[15:37] <M4K4V3l1> :S
[15:37] <Zane2> if an app locks up and it is in full screen, how can i get back to the desktop?
[15:37] <flexxxv> i'm sorry
[15:37] <JordanC> paschu: Project64 works, but that's windows only, I believe
[15:37] <flexxxv> your username must be similar...
[15:37] <space_cadet> folliculated34_, well since it was set to manually installed after i tried to install it, prolly the reg repos
[15:38] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I see: "/etc/ldap/slapd.conf: line 41: invalid path: Permission denied" have you looked in that .conf?
[15:38] <jrib> Zane2: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you to tty1
[15:38] <pianolender> hello everybody! where am I supposed to search for the kernel file in ubuntu livecd?
[15:38] <JordanC> In fact, pj64 works pretty flawlessly
[15:38] <IHS_Volunteer> Zane2, worst case scenario you hit ctrl+alt+F1 and log in and use pkill application_name
[15:38] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes and it works fine in another server.. it's too similar
[15:38] <kb3cda> Anyone know of a good ANSI capable telnet client for Ubuntu?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | space_cadet , check this out
[15:38] <JonathanEllis> mind_eraser: If you dont want to flood the channel, post a one-line summary of your problem here with a link to all the details on pastebin.com
[15:38] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, try the one from medibuntu... add it to your sources.list first
[15:39] <ccooke> kb3cda: not the command line 'telnet' command, then?
[15:39] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, folliculated34_ i did that
[15:39] <JonathanEllis> pianolender: Should be in /boot
[15:39] <paschu> guys, i need a well working nintendo 64 emulator
[15:39] <Zane2> IHS_Volunteer how do i do this?
[15:39] <pianolender> linux-zh1u:/media/Ubuntu           # ls
[15:39] <pianolender> autorun.inf  dists     md5sum.txt  preseed             wubi.exe
[15:39] <pianolender> casper       install   pics        README.diskdefines
[15:39] <pianolender> .disk        isolinux  pool        ubuntu
[15:39] <pianolender> linux-zh1u:/media/Ubuntu           #
[15:39] <Zane2> this is all new to me
[15:39] <FloodBot4> pianolender: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:39] <kb3cda> ccooke: right, looking for a client to handle BBS telnet
[15:39] <riegersn> how do i check what graphics driver my karmic install is using
[15:39] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, try vlc , it plays flv files
[15:39] <xae8koo> DHCP won't work, can someone help me?
[15:39] <pianolender>  FloodBot4: sorry)
[15:39] <mind_eraser> JonathanEllis: ah, wasn't aware of such a thing. Thanks! I think I'm going to take this to a forum however
[15:39] <folliculated34_> what about reinstalling? apt-get purge then apt-get install... you might need to apt-get clean first to make sure you don't get the old one.
[15:40] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, no it doesnt
[15:40] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, what about reinstalling? apt-get purge then apt-get install... you might need to apt-get clean first to make sure you don't get the old one.
[15:40] <ccooke> kb3cda: the command line will do that, but there are explicit mud clients that might be better for you
[15:40] <Zane2> im now at a prompt and i want to get back to the desktop, do i have to reboot?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, , mine does
[15:40] <JonathanEllis> paschu: Try searching through synaptic or add/remove programs
[15:40] <ccooke> kb3cda: gnome-mud might be worth a try
[15:40] <paschu> all games and other programs thta need 3d graphics are lagging. The sound is lagging
[15:40] <folliculated34_> Zane2, if "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" fails I guess so
[15:40] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, but if you insist on not trying new plugins , that's up to you
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Zane2, hit ctrl+alt+F1 on a computer this should take you to a command line interface. using "top" will show running processes. ctrl+c will exit out of that. use pkill application_name to kill the offending process.(like firefox) (alt+F7 takes you back to the GUI)
[15:41] <folliculated34_> Zane2, wait... ctrl+alt+f7?
[15:41] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, http://pastebin.com/m4591c40b
[15:41] <JonathanEllis> paschu: Or even google "ubuntu n64 emulator" or the full name of whatever an n64 is
[15:41] <kb3cda> ccooke: I'll give gnome-mud a try, thanks
[15:41] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, i am not insisting on not trying new plugins....   I HAVE TRIED NEW PLUGINS
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Nintendo 64, JonathanD
[15:41] <space_cadet> what don't you get
[15:41] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: so you have the same configuration on two servers with identical hardware?
[15:41] <IHS_Volunteer> Er, JonathanEllis *
[15:42] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: do you think that it can be a problem hardware ?
[15:42] <M4K4V3l1> they are different, HP and olivetti
[15:42] <paschu> why are all programs that need 3d graphic lagging???
[15:42] <folliculated34_> paschu, bad drivers?
[15:42] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I don't actually know, but you say the same configuration is being used in both, and something has to be off somewhere
[15:43] <paschu> folliculated34_: where to download drivers?
[15:43] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes that's it
[15:43] <IHS_Volunteer> Interesting..LTSP booted systems, using localapps Firefox....and the Pentium 2 @366mhz decodes flash videos better than a Pentium3 @ 600mhz, both with 128MB of RAM..
[15:43] <pianolender> folliculated34_: alt+F7 is enough
[15:43] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: do you have immediate access to the other one to compare differences?
[15:44] <ooaaaoo> anybody here familiar with empathy?
[15:44] <dooglus> anyone know of a tool to rip hidden tracks from an audio CD?
[15:44] <JonathanEllis> I have a problem with an HP Scanjet C7710A. x-sane detects it as a 7400c:002. When I try to acquire a preview scan, x restarts. I am running Hardy Heron.
[15:44] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes
[15:44] <space_cadet> so people get the right idea, and don't tell me to do stuff i already have done....
[15:44] <IHS_Volunteer> ooaaaoo, get to the real question.
[15:44] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I am using both by ssh
[15:44] <folliculated34_> dooglus, sometimes hidden tracks are just in the last song.
[15:45] <dooglus> folliculated34_: I know.  but in this case they're before the first song
[15:45] <space_cadet> why can't i play FLV files, with anything... even with the medibuntu codecs installed.   I cannot play flv files with VLC even
[15:45] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: a debug output from the working one may be worth a second look
[15:45] <ooaaaoo> IHS_Volunteer: how do i configure empathy to work with gnome's environment proxy?
[15:45] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: ok
[15:45] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: this should happen automatically
[15:45] <folliculated34_> dooglus, ok, sry, I don't know how to do that.
[15:45] <dooglus> folliculated34_: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/User:PBryan/cd2flac#Description can do it, but it's command line only, and not in an official package
[15:45] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: If a cd player plays them, they are not hidden. How does the CD player access them?
[15:46] <ooaaaoo> no, when i apply any "system wide" proxy settings empathy doesnt react
[15:46] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: some CD players will access it if I hit the 'back' button from track 1; some won't
[15:46] <cellofellow> how do I boot my Ubuntu LiveCD on a Mac? There some trick to it?
[15:46] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/22250/
[15:46] <riegersn> how do i check what graphics driver my karmic install is using
[15:47] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: They may be recorded as track zero. If you browse the CD, does it show a track zero? Come to that, does your CD ripping program?
[15:47] <lengend> how do you get "libmimic"??
[15:47] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: AHH... thanks...it doesnt support proxies
[15:47] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I never used a cd ripping program.  which do you recommend?
[15:47] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: guess its back to good ol gaim
[15:47] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: What happens when you put the CD in your computer?
[15:47] <whammo> I'm trying to set up twinview in 9.10, does anybody know of new pitfalls in 9.10 I should be aware of as far as xorg.conf goes?
[15:48] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: nothing
[15:48] <xae8koo> Why doesn't spotify work in ubuntu 9.10?
[15:48] <Boohbah> ooaaaoo: it would appear so. empathy is relatively new i believe. the features will come :)
[15:48] <space_cadet> nope still don't work
[15:48] <space_cadet> still cant play flv files
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: can you expand on "doesnt work"
[15:48] <diogo_79> hi guys
[15:48] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: It laggs and then freezes
[15:48] <xae8koo> Almost instantly
[15:48] <space_cadet> heh go figure
[15:48] <xae8koo> I can browse songs and shit
[15:48] <space_cadet> i can play the flv files in firefox
[15:48] <xae8koo> But not play
[15:48] <space_cadet> but nothing else
[15:48] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: I think Sound Juicer used to come by default with Ubuntu. Do you get an audio cd desktop icon? If you right click on it, it may give you choices there
[15:49] <diogo_79> i am having a problem with flash plugin on ubuntu 9.04 64 bits
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: ok launch it from a terminal, watch the output when it does
[15:49] <xae8koo> JonathanEllis: It used to, not with 9.10
[15:49] <Will123456> xae8koo: it works fine for me on fedora 11. for what it's worth :P
[15:49] <diogo_79> i have the plugin install but is not working
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> !info spotify
[15:49] <diogo_79> dont know why
[15:49] <Will123456> spotify is an external program, actionparsnip
[15:49] <diogo_79> can someone help me debug this please
[15:49] <Will123456> he'll be running it through wine
[15:49] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: its got a clean interface, but takes some getting used to
[15:50] <ooaaaoo> Boohbah: like the lack of pluggins
[15:50] <isojussi> how i can force install package, when dpkg says it will broke other package?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Will123456: gotcha
[15:50] <folliculated34_> isojussi, -f
[15:50] <Will123456> I've found spotify to be slightly dodgy- sometimes not working for a while, sometimes working perfectly. i'm going to ask a patronising question but you've restarted etc. etc., right xae8koo? :P
[15:50] <space_cadet> Can someone explain why....    I CAN play flv files(from my disk) in firefox   but NOT in anything else.
[15:50] <IHS_Volunteer> I still haven't gone back to using Ubuntu 9.04, and I'm still not enjoying the broken sound.
[15:50] <space_cadet> please
[15:50] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: fixme:ntdll:NtQueryInformationProcess (process=0xffffffff) Unimplemented information class: ProcessDebugFlags
[15:50] <ooaaaoo> anyone here knows how to delete an "account" from empathy's account list?
[15:50] <xae8koo> ActionParsnip: A lot of that
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> xae8koo: cool websearch that
[15:51] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, flv files in firefox? are you sure they're flv? sounds more like swf to me..
[15:51] <Will123456> xae8koo: it could be something to do with a change to the sound subsystem in 9.10
[15:51] <space_cadet> no dude, they're flv
[15:51] <bazhang> space_cadet, from youtube?
[15:51] <Will123456> xae8koo: have you checked that any sounds work in wine?
[15:51] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: When I put an audio CD into my computer it appears in the Places menu. If I click on the audio cd it opens it in Sound Juicer
[15:51] <cankoy> space_cadet: aptitude search unstripped  <--install these
[15:52] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: But there are probably other cd ripping programs in the repos. Have a look in Add/Remove programs or the Software Centre if you are running a more recent release
[15:52] <xae8koo> Will123456: Yes, I hear the starting sound of spotify, and if I'm lucky a few seconds of a song.
[15:53] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes it works
[15:53] <folliculated34_> space_cadet, have you tried 'file' on them?
[15:53] <bazhang> space_cadet, is this from youtube
[15:53] <space_cadet> bazhang, NO
[15:53] <bazhang> space_cadet, got a link? I will try
[15:53] <space_cadet> cankoy, still won't work
[15:53] <space_cadet> bazhang, no i don't... they are downloaded from a torrent...
[15:54] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: congrats
[15:54] <space_cadet> it's the Offensive Security Set
[15:54] <space_cadet> backtrack videos
[15:54] <Will123456> xae8koo: i SHOULD have a 9.10 box behind me, but right now it's down for the count. i'll be reinstalling tonight at some point, so er, if you're still having problems, at least perhaps we'll both be having problems together later on. that's all i can offer to you right now, other than downloading the latest spotify version. sorry!
[15:54] <space_cadet> they work in windows.
[15:54] <space_cadet> they work in firefox
[15:54] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: sorry I mean it works in the other server
[15:54] <xae8koo> Will123456: I have the latest :/
[15:54] <space_cadet> but i can't play them in mplayer, vlc, or anything else.
[15:54] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: lol well that's something
[15:55] <spridel> perhaps you are missing a codec/gstream for ubuntu
[15:55] <spridel> i was missing one to play aac files
[15:56] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok on the trouble server I only see one error, and that's invalid path
[15:56] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I don't have any icons on my desktop
[15:56] <erry> Hello, I would like to change my default browser. I have ran     sudo update-alternatives –config x-www-browser
[15:56] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I use XFCE4.  It doesn't have a 'Places' menu
[15:56] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Does the CD appear in the Places menu?
[15:56] <erry> which told me my default browser is galeon, but when i click on a link from here or pidgin or whatever firefox opens iot
[15:56] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok you could check on the good server if that path is what it is, or if it's linked
[15:56] <Gateway`> hello everybody, I've just installed amsn with the command sudo apt-get install amsn
[15:56] <dalfz> i'm trying to build wine, but it complains of missing freetype font dev files. what package is that?
[15:57] <Gateway`> sorry, with the commande sudo apt-get install amsn.package, after lunching the program, it says something like xcimage..
[15:57] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: What is XFCE4? Have you looked to see if you have a CD ripping program installed? As I say, I use Sound Juicer but only because its there and works. I dont have any strong opinion on it
[15:58] <Gateway`> now, I would like to remove it... can somebody show me how I have to do ?
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: i realise this is a bit of a duh thing to do but other people have had problems too: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+9.10+spotify&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[15:58] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: didn't understood
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: "Try removing the wine package and install the wine1.2 one."
[15:58] <erry> Hello
[15:58] <Hajex> can I upgrade my system to 9.10 without upgrading first to 9.04 (I have 8.1o now)??
[15:58] <space_cadet> Well... my flv files are compressed Flash Data. Version 8
[15:58] <Will123456> xae8koo: that fixed his problems
[15:59] <space_cadet> so... how to play them in vlc
[15:59] <bazhang> Hajex, no, you need to take the intermediate step first
[15:59] <space_cadet> cause they wont
[15:59] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I mean is it possible the one server is finding the correct path because of a symlink that was generated by some script on install, and the other one isn't linked?
[15:59] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: you know GNOME and KDE?  XFCE4 is like those.
[16:00] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: a "desktop environment" I think they're called
[16:00] <lenovo> 这个怎么用阿
[16:00] <dooglus> !info xfce4
[16:00] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: but I used the same Makefile.. I didn't change anything
[16:00] <Hajex> bazhang : but system alert me that 9.04 is not supported by ATI video adapter
[16:00] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: OK. I see. I am using gnome. If you look in a file browser you may be able to see the audio CD.   I've booted from USB, resized the vista partition, and installed ubuntu!
[16:01] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: same as in from the same vendor, same version?
[16:01]  * Strogg does a little dance
[16:01] <gotme54545> Ubnuntu is not reading any blank cd's anyone help? version 9.10
[16:01] <dooglus> gotme54545: I can.  there's nothing on them.
[16:02] <gotme54545> dooglus: i am trying to burn something, but it's not reading the cd.
[16:02] <dooglus> gotme54545: if you have any blank DVDs you'd like read, I can tell you what's on them too.  just ask.
[16:02] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: no, in the first server I am running hardy desktop, but in the second it's hardy server
[16:02] <gotme54545> dooglus: it reads the cd's that have content on them, but when i insert a blank cd it does noting.
[16:03] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: ok then, same repos, just different install
[16:03] <lenovo> 这是什么东西
[16:03] <space_cadet> i thought .dll files were for windows
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: I gonna be crazy
[16:03] <M4K4V3l1> :S
[16:03] <DJones> !cn | lenovo
[16:03] <grawity> space_cadet: They are, usually.
[16:03] <lenovo> join #ubuntu
[16:03] <MayaT> hye i am new. and want to try using ubuntu
[16:03] <JohnT> I have a multithreading problem... I have a CPU with 4 cores: when using an app with 4 threads (wich runned correctly on 9.04) the behaviour is not obvious. Each thread should be ran by its core, but it does not happen anymore in 9.10: 3 cores are at 100%, while one is idle. The result is 2 threads using 2 cores and the other 2 sharing only one, thus keeping the remaining one idle. Its important... I am drilling myself for
[16:03] <JohnT>  explaining and solving this thing
[16:03] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: haha sorry I can only help troubleshoot, I don't know slapd
[16:03] <lenovo> join #ubuntu -cn
[16:04] <space_cadet> grawity, ok... go to mplayerhq.hu    download the Linux x86 codec pack (from the download page) and peek inside.
[16:04] <MayaT> how to first step using ubuntu
[16:04] <lenovo> 呵呵
[16:04] <IdleOne> lenovo: /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <JonathanEllis> MayaT: Try downloading a liveCD and running from that.
[16:04] <bazhang> lenovo, /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <JonathanEllis> !livecd | MayaT
[16:04] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: it's not you the problem, I mean my problems using ubuntu are multiple now
[16:04] <dooglus> gotme54545: can you just try burning something onto them?
[16:04] <Dnrock> please help me ! i need convert FAT32 -> NTFS without loss data on ubuntu .....
[16:04] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: is ubuntu unstable ?
[16:04] <lenovo>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:04] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:05] <bazhang> lenovo, no space before /join
[16:05] <space_cadet> Dnrock, boot to windows and use http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb456984.aspx
[16:05] <erry> <_< i see you dont' really care
[16:05] <JonathanEllis> Dnrock: You cannot convert a FAT32 volume to NTFS. All you can do is make a new NTFS volume and then copy the data across
[16:05] <dbugger> Hey guys! 've been told to make a magazine for my faculty. What software could I use for this?
[16:05] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: no* hardy should be rock-solid
[16:05] <space_cadet> JonathanEllis, in windows you can.
[16:05] <rapha> is there a list with laptops working under ubuntu?
[16:06] <space_cadet> rapha, laptops or netbooks?
[16:06] <Dnrock> space_cadet: can i do it on ubuntu ? or only can convert with windows ?
[16:06] <JonathanEllis> space_cadet: Really? I forgot that. Its so long ago that I used Windows
[16:06] <space_cadet> lol
[16:06] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:06] <JohnT> I have a CPU with 4 cores: when using an app with 4 threads (wich runned correctly on 9.04) the behaviour is not obvious. Each thread should be ran by its core, but it does not happen anymore in 9.10: 3 cores are at 100% while one is idle. No ideas, right?
[16:07] <grawity> space_cadet: I'm guessing mplayer has been written to be able to use Windows libraries somehow (kind of like Wine runs Windows apps).
[16:07] <Dnrock> JonathanEllis: with windows XP i can convert FAT to NTFS easy with one command line, so i think is same with ubuntu
[16:07] <Ddorda> is there any game that uses webcam?
[16:08] <JonathanEllis> MayaT: Follow the download link from the home page on www.ubuntu.com. If your computer is old and Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work, you may find that downloading ubuntu 8.04 may be more reliable.
[16:08] <fasta> Why doesn't Nautilus work with FTP in a non-broken way anymore? It took 5 minutes to connect to the server and list the directory contents. The eons old program ftp does this with a few hundred milleseconds.
[16:09] <space_cadet> Dnrock, looks like either... copy all data to new ntfs partition in linux, or take it to a windows box, and convert X: /fs:ntfs
[16:09] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything.
[16:09] <atzz> I am using ubuntu 9.10 and when I play videos they seem to be slow
[16:09] <rapha> space_cadet: laptops, 15.4 inch screens
[16:09] <atzz> I think it's a graphics problem
[16:10] <JonathanEllis> Dnrock: As I say its a long time since I used windows. Sounds risky anyway. It might be safer to copy the FAT32 volume to an external hard drive, then delete the partition in GParted and make a new NTFS partition. Then copy the data back. Thats how I would do it to be on the safe side. Otherwise if something goes wrong during the conversion process you could lose data
[16:10] <atzz> I have intel 845 ... and there is no xorg.conf ... how do I configure the driver for graphics
[16:10] <space_cadet> gotme54545, have you installed a cd burning utility?
[16:10] <space_cadet> i.e. gnomebaker, etc?
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> !libcrss2
[16:10] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Did you solve your problem or do you need more help?
[16:10] <remoteCTR1> !DVD
[16:10] <cankoy> JohnT: something might have changed about processor affinity in 2.6.30+, did you search kernel m.list?
[16:11] <atzz> !xvideo-intel
[16:11] <atzz> !intel
[16:11] <space_cadet> !askthebot
[16:11] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: have you tried changing specifically the ownership of /var/lib/ldap/far.ma ?
[16:11] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: or rather check what the permission are for it now?
[16:11] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: yes I did it
[16:12] <jon5000> greetings all, i am a bit of a novice.  I use karmic on my laptop but store all my files on a usb drive connected to a windows vista desktop.  I am able to get to, browse and acxcess this drive using samba with no problem but it seems that whenever the first time i access the smb folder/drive it has to search for it.  Also it never shows up when I am using a file browser from some program (such as music player, trying to add s
[16:12] <jon5000> ongs to the library, etc).  Is ther an easy way to make this samba drive act like it is local?
[16:12] <cankoy> JohnT: also try #ubuntu-kernel
[16:12] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: you are talking about the working serv ?
[16:12] <remoteCTR1> erm... what happened to ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[16:12] <JohnT> cankoy: thank you
[16:12] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: you could check who the owner is of that lib on the working one
[16:13] <gotme54545> Can anyone help? Ubuntu 9.10 is only reading cd's that have content, but when i put in blank cd it wont read it and cant burn anything. Found the solution just installed gnome voulme manager and it worked for some reason it removed baraso
[16:13] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: you have right it's not the same permission
[16:13] <rapha> space_cadet: laptops, 15.4 inch screens
[16:13] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: I installed it recently. Do you have the universe or multiverse repositories enabled? I forget which one its in
[16:13] <gotme54545> i love it when things work and you don't even know like what was wrong or why was that the problem
[16:13] <space_cadet> rapha   google search first hit   http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/massive-list-of-laptops-that-work-with-ubuntu/
[16:14] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, avtually i have all of the repositories enabled, even the backports...
[16:14] <magaio> We have many access points with the same SSID at my university. Is there a way I can tell NetworkManager to connect to a specific one?
[16:14]  * arand wants to rant about how brainstorm is dead
[16:14] <atzz> I have ubuntu 9.10 and I don't have xorg.conf
[16:14] <atzz> how do I configure it ?
[16:14] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, it also doesnt show up on packages.ubuntu.com...
[16:14] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: And you still cant install it? Odd. As I say, I installed it successfully on two machines on Sunday
[16:14] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: on the bad server can you log in as the appropriate owner and claim the lib?
[16:14] <adnc_> hello, i'm trying to build a kernel and i get this error "dpkg-gencontrol: error: package linux-image-2.6.30 not in control info" what does it mean not in control info?
[16:15] <space_cadet> atzz   heh, wait till you figure out that /boot/grub/menu.list isn't there anymore either...
[16:15] <remoteCTR1> JonathanEllis, maybe you did but those werent running 9.10 then...
[16:15] <rapha> space_cadet: sorry imon a small mobile phone ... everything takes lots of time ... the link you gave me i had already found but the info there is kinda crap
[16:15] <JonathanEllis> remoteCTR1: Ah no. Couldnt get Karmic to work on either of the two computers so installed Jaunty
[16:15] <space_cadet> rapha   it links to  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[16:15] <atzz> space_cadet, well I know :p but grub is not giving me any problem... I have intel845 and my graphics is shitty
[16:16] <atzz> space_cadet, when I watch any video .. the video seems to be slow and jerky
[16:16] <atzz> space_cadet, even dpkg-reconfigure is not giving anything useful
[16:16] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: it's nice to have two of something running
[16:16] <space_cadet> atzz    i read something about intel problems affecting grub actually .....  but that was with headless servers...
[16:16] <remoteCTR1> well ok libdvdread4 is still available but not installed per defauilt now i sak myself what else from ubuntu-restriccted-extras i could be missing...
[16:16] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I installed sound-juicer - seems it doesn't come in the default ubuntu install any more
[16:16] <mgv1> when i choose subtitles totem gets closed - why?
[16:16] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: it finds tracks 1 through 15, but doesn't find track 0
[16:17] <atzz> space_cadet, do you know of any solution to this problem.. I can't watch any video ... it's all jerky and slow ?
[16:17] <atzz> earlier driver i810 used to solve the problem
[16:17] <space_cadet> atzz    actually .... now thinking about it, if you're talking about online videos, i have an nvidia 9600 GSM and i get the same thing
[16:17] <space_cadet> jerky and choppy
[16:17] <atzz> I was talking about videos on my HDD
[16:17] <space_cadet> hrm
[16:17] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Can you play track 1 with Sound Juicer? It may be that the hidden track is located in track 1 at a minus time
[16:17] <space_cadet> lemmie try and find a movie.
[16:17] <atzz> lol
[16:18] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, try this : http://www.mediacollege.com/video-gallery/testclips/barsandtone.flv
[16:18] <atzz> I need a workaround
[16:18] <atzz> :p
[16:18] <space_cadet> workz
[16:18] <mgv1> what subtitles are supported in totem????
[16:18] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I can.  It's 4:14 long.  Track 0 is 9 minutes or so
[16:18] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: very good, you help me finally.. I find the problem, someone has comment the line perms-ldap:
[16:18] <M4K4V3l1>         chown -R openldap.openldap /var/lib/ldap
[16:18] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, it turns out those files are SWF
[16:18] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: there's a slider along the bottom as track 1 plays.  it starts at the left and slowly goes right
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: now it's works
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> thank you my frind
[16:19] <M4K4V3l1> friend
[16:19] <TWD> After the last string of ubuntu updates I can no longer view mms video feeds in firefox.  Any ideas how to fix?
[16:19] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: excellent enjoy
[16:19] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: I imagine most CD players usually start from zero time by default. Dont know if Sound Juicer can play or extract negative time. I do wish record companies would quit it with introducing non-standard features into discs that may or may not play on common hardware
[16:19] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: I think I learned a bit too
[16:19] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Wait! You said you had a track zero? Does that have the bits you want?
[16:19] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I think the other track is track 0, but I'm not sure
[16:20] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: ok.. happy for that
[16:20] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: sound juicer only shows 1 through 15
[16:20] <M4K4V3l1> whammo: hope to see you next time.. bye
[16:20] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I see track 0 on a 'real' (black box) CD player
[16:20] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, got any examples of real flv files ?
[16:20] <whammo> M4K4V3l1: seeya
[16:20] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Its annoying isnt it. As you said, some hardware CD players even wont see track 0.
[16:21] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, as i reported, that link you sent me worked... but i realized that the files i cannot play are SWF format
[16:21] <earilmadith> hello i have xubuntu jaunty, and i cant open dvds
[16:21] <earilmadith> http://pastebin.com/m1a7984f5
[16:21] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: I did find a perl script on a website that will allow me to rip track 0 to .flac format, but it's command-line
[16:21] <alabd_> Good day everyone , which password should be used for message > enter password for default keyring
[16:21] <grawity> alabd_: Your login password.
[16:22] <dooglus> JonathanEllis: so I guess that solves the problem, but I'd prefer a GUI solution, in the official repos
[16:22] <alabd_> grawity: gdm login ?
[16:22] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: You might just have to try different CD ripping programs until you find one that will pick up your hidden tracks. If the worst comes to the worst, you could connect your CD player to your sound card with a cable and record the analog audio
[16:22] <Strogg> hrmm how do I get "octave" to show up in the installable packages for Karmic?  When I search for it in synaptic, it's not there to select
[16:22] <archet45> anyone here know how to change themes for gdesklets?
[16:23] <rapha> space_cadet: i browsed through the laptoptestingteam page as good as possible onthe mobile phone but it doesnt seemto link to the actual test results
[16:23] <JonathanEllis> dooglus: Sometimes to do something unusual you may have to use the command line.
[16:24] <JonathanEllis> Strogg: You may need to add another repository. Try looking on the developer's website
[16:24] <Strogg> hrmm damn.  I would have thought that'd be core
[16:24] <Strogg> JonathanEllis: ok.. thanks
[16:24] <alabd_> grawity: gdm login pass does not work
[16:25] <space_cadet> rapha,  from what i understand.... if it's listed... the release tested runs on it....  otherwise good luck... the site is a bit confusing though...  they should clean it up a lot and put columns saying 8.04  8.10  9.04  9.10   and a checkbox or a yes or no if it was tested, works, etc.
[16:26] <rapha> space_cadet: listed where? i cant find a list at all on that page
[16:26] <space_cadet> on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam ??
[16:26] <space_cadet> under Laptop Tests?
[16:27] <Strogg> Aha. it was in universe.. but wasn't showing up when I search.  weird.  Oh well.
[16:28] <BryanC> I am trying to mount the filesystem from a "my book world edition" NAS so that it is available as a directory to my ftp server software. I am not familiar with the mount command though. Can someone help me?
[16:28] <ccmonster> For the love of all that is good, why won't my broadcom card work in 9.10 :(
[16:29] <ccmonster> Does anyone have a known fix for this issue?
[16:29] <ccmonster> I've tried various fixes that i've found online, but no luck.
[16:29] <renata> is there any command line mp3 encoder for (x)ubuntu, which I could use for encoding wav to mp3?
[16:30] <rapha> space_cadet: oh i have it now ... it just took insanely long to load - thx!
[16:30] <ccmonster> all4mp3 i think is CL
[16:30] <ccmonster> or M03
[16:30] <ccmonster> or blade mp3
[16:31] <renata> thanks
[16:31] <JonathanEllis> I have a scanning problem. x-sane detects my HP C7710A scanner as a 7400. I understand the avision backend has been included in the SANE distribution for years so that's not surprising. What is surprising is when I try to acquire a preview image, my x windows session restarts. Is this likely to be a problem in sane or xsane? Can you think what I might google to try to solve this problem?
[16:32] <renata> ccmonster, Can I find any of these in synaptic?
[16:33] <grawity> renata: The most common encoder is 'lame'
[16:33] <WFS> is there a way to dock pidgin yet?
[16:33] <renata> grawity, how could I use it for converting files?
[16:33] <ccmonster> I don't know renata . Maybe all4mp3
[16:33] <ner0x> Anyone familiar with hylafax?
[16:33] <ccmonster> you can use gnome-do and dock it I believe
[16:34] <ccmonster> or just make it run in the tray.
[16:34] <alabd_> grawity: it is ok now but how a vpn connection will be enabled in network maager ?
[16:35] <unimatrix> how do i request a package to be included in the repository?
[16:36] <Strogg> What the hell is ~/.gvfs ?  I have that file in my home and the permissions and user are unreadable.. ls -Fla shows them as question marks
[16:36] <mintux> I install gnome-osd but when I open a program it hides how can I keep on my desktop ?
[16:36]  * Strogg has never seen anything like that before
[16:36] <mphill_> when i want to resize windows the corners are damn near impossible to select, there is like a 3 pixel area you need to get the pointer on, is there anyways to improve this? I am using metacity, maybe I need to switch to emerald?
[16:36] <kostkon> !gvfs | Strogg
[16:37] <kostkon> damn
[16:37] <space_cadet> so is my only option to play these SWF's in firefox??
[16:37] <warriorforgod> Strogg: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+.gvfs
[16:37] <gburton> hello
[16:37] <Strogg> lol  nice
[16:37] <warriorforgod> Sorry couldn't resist.
[16:38] <gburton> i want to customise my power management regarding the hard disk... currently it likese to power down the hdd even when im on mains, so of course when i do something that uses the HDD it will pause for 1/2 a second while the hdd powers up.
[16:38] <djura-san> hello
[16:38] <gburton> hi
[16:38] <djura-san> :)
[16:38] <djura-san>  is there any chance to disable server messages (like "XXX loged in, or off") in main chat window? Is there chance to send them to another tab?
[16:38] <gburton> anyway, this is annoying because im doing web dev in firefox and its exposing race conditions...
[16:38] <djura-san> in xchat?
[16:38] <Strogg> if only some of those links had an answer. hehe
[16:39] <warriorforgod> Strogg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[16:39] <DJones> djura-san: From memory, right click on the channel name, there should be an option to disable join/part messages (Depending on which version of xchat, it may be under the options heading)
[16:40] <djura-san> xchat v2.8
[16:40] <mgv1> why does an hebrew subtitles look gibrish in totem?
[16:40] <djura-san> ant there is not that kind of option
[16:40] <jcrawford> hey guys i need to setup an ssh tunnel and i was looking at gtsm however it seems you have to leave that app open, it cannot go into the bar at the top near the clock or anything.  Is there a better way to have my port forwarded everytime i start the system and just have it be in the background?
[16:41] <kostkon> djura-san, there are two vers of xchat, xchat and xchat-gnome, a simple ver of it
[16:41] <kostkon> simpler*
[16:41] <jcrawford> i would rather do this in a config file or a shell script or something if possible
[16:41] <jcrawford> xchat-gnome blows :)
[16:41] <kostkon> lol
[16:41] <djura-san> i use xchat (not gnome version)
[16:41] <BluesKaj> space_cadet, the only method I've found to play swf files is to use a browser ,if you have flashplugin-non free of course
[16:42] <jcrawford> anyone have any idea about my tunnel question?
[16:42] <jcrawford> i want port 3306 to always go to a remote server
[16:42] <jcrawford> as that is where my databases are stored
[16:42] <jon5000> how do i permanently map a samba drive
[16:42] <DJones> djura-san: I'm not on linux at the minute to check, I've only got a windows version of xchat to look at, on that, the option is under settings after right clicking on the channel name
[16:42] <jcrawford> but it has to be over ssh because the port is not open to the public
[16:43] <monokrome> I have a Ubuntu server running, and Postgresql 8.4 was installed by a coworker (I think in a menu) but I need to install postgresql-8.3... Is there a way to completely remove all changes done to the system during the installation of 8.4/8.3?
[16:43] <djura-san> jcraford: oh yea... that is the thing :)
[16:43] <djura-san> works for me
[16:44] <lson8874> a friend gave me a hard disk sata 2 250gb, i would like to install ubuntu on it, but i can't the disk doesn't show on the install options! only my other sata disk with 500gb and the other two ide disks. Why is this? going on location it shows there with the other three disks but not on the instalation????
[16:44] <jcrawford> gSTM seems to work fine but...  I don't need or want a UI for this
[16:44] <handjob> Hi everyone. Could someone reccomend me sound recording software?
[16:44] <djura-san> next question: how can i set up xchat to auto connect to freenode and to enter a few rooms on startup?
[16:44] <djura-san> sorry. Djones give an answer to my problem :)
[16:45] <JonathanEllis> handjob: What do you want to do with it?  Thank you for your support :)
[16:46] <IdleOne> jcrawford: it isn't but we do it all it seems :)
[16:46] <edemirci1> hello do you have a Turkish who knows?
[16:46] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:46] <jcrawford> IdleOne, :)
[16:46] <IdleOne> !turkey
[16:47] <gburton> edemirci1: a turkish what? I have a turkish rug at home...
[16:47] <JonathanEllis> handjob: Audacity can do either. I think Sound Recorder comes with Ubuntu in the Sound and Video menu. You could look in the Sound & Video section of Software Centre or Applications | Add/Remove. I have used Audacity to record four channels at once. Havent used it for a while so I dont have much more than that to say about it
[16:47] <Will123456> anyone here running an i7 who wants to test out how fast their machine can go? :P
[16:47] <whammo> can anybody offer any advice/guide on configuring an external monitor?
[16:48] <gokoon> Can somebody tell me why ubuntu doomed my mac ?
[16:48] <handjob> JonathanEllis, Thank You.
[16:48] <IdleOne> gburton: not helpful. evident that his native tongue is not english, under the circumstance I think he did pretty good asking for help.
[16:48] <cellofellow> handjob: Audacity is the best all-around sound recorder (powerful, easy to use, some multi-tracking). Others include Jokosher (kind of wet behind the ears) and Ardour (very complex and powerful).
[16:48] <gburton> right, sorry
[16:48] <space_cadet> BluesKaj, ty...  that's what i was thinking..
[16:49] <handjob> cellofellow, so audacity it is. Thank You also.
[16:49] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:49] <djura-san> handjob: use caps, blop and cmt packages to boost audacity plugins! It will give you about 100+ plugins ;)
[16:51] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd????
[16:51] <Guest40641> hello, I just installed hardy to a 4g usb drive from my laptop (which was running karmic).  Now I get a grub error when I try to boot without the flash drive - anyone know how I can fix this?
[16:53] <kran> 这里是中文的么？
[16:53] <IdleOne> !cn
[16:53] <bazhang> kran, /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:53] <djura-san> one more question about xchat: how can i enable "Hide Join/Part messages" option server wide? Now i have to select that option for every single channel i use
[16:53] <kgreszczuk> siemacie ludzie :D
[16:54] <kgreszczuk> ubuntu 9.10  mam od 2 dni..
[16:54] <kgreszczuk> mam pytanie
[16:54] <bazhang> !pl | kgreszczuk
[16:54] <DexterLB> hi
[16:54] <BlouBlou> DexterLB: hello
[16:54] <DexterLB> I'll be buying a new compie tommorrow :)
[16:54] <Will123456> DexterLB: specs?
[16:54] <IdleOne> djura-san: try #xchat
[16:54] <a931bw> Guys i need help
[16:55] <DexterLB> so I need to migrate the entire 150GB /home to it
[16:55] <djura-san> i tried but there are no answer there :(
[16:55] <a931bw> how to recompile my kernel?
[16:55] <djura-san> *answers
[16:55] <DexterLB> it has a L O T of tiny files and symlinks
[16:55] <ikonia> a931bw: why do you want to ?
[16:55] <ikonia> DexterLB: what's the issue ?
[16:55] <a931bw> learn
[16:55] <a931bw> Ikonia : learn
[16:55] <DexterLB> it's under warranty so I can't just open it and stick the HDD in
[16:55] <IdleOne> djura-san: xchat also has a great FAQ on xchat.org I don't think there is a setting for a global hide join/parts
[16:55] <DexterLB> so I'll have to do it by network
[16:56] <lson8874> i can't install ubuntu on my 250gb sata 2. It doesn't show on the install options. But it is detected going to location on the live cd???? Please, someone help me...
[16:56] <ikonia> a931bw: ubuntu packages the kernel, it has some specific patches and packaging requirments, that's quite different than compiling a kernel, you have to work out what part you want to learn
[16:56] <DexterLB> so which is the fastest method for lots of small files and symlinks? I'm familiar with vsftpd and, of course, samba
[16:56] <djura-san> IdleOne: is there option to do this trought bash script?
[16:56] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: You can open it if you are careful not to leave traces. Does your computer have screws or a door?
[16:56] <DexterLB> i don't know yet
[16:56] <ikonia> DexterLB: what is your target machine ?
[16:56] <IdleOne> djura-san: I would not know sorry
[16:56] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: Anyway, opening up the case and installing new hardware should not invalidate your warranty
[16:57] <DexterLB> ok
[16:57] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: please don't bump, also are you sure its mounted during install?
[16:57] <WFS> sigh..  installed gnome-do but dunno what im doin
[16:57] <a931bw> ikonia: on what language kernel writen?
[16:57] <a931bw> c++ right/
[16:57] <djura-san> IdleOne: there are somebody at #xchat now. I will try there. Thank you :)
[16:57] <ikonia> a931bw: c
[16:57] <DexterLB> but if I have to copy lots of small files and SL
[16:57] <DexterLB> on other occasions'
[16:57] <ikonia> a931bw: if you visit wwww.kernel.org there is good documentation
[16:57] <a931bw> k
[16:57] <a931bw> ty
[16:57] <DexterLB> what software would I need?
[16:57] <skande> a931bw: C and asm
[16:57] <gost> Hello there.
[16:57] <ikonia> DexterLB: what is your target machine
[16:57] <JonathanEllis> DexterLB: If you dont want to do that, you could put the HD from your old computer in a usb caddy to connect it to your new computer. Otherwise network is your answer#
[16:57] <KindOne> I have just modified "./etc/X11/xorg.cong" in the terminal. What is the command to save it?
[16:57] <ikonia> KindOne: what editor did you use ?
[16:58] <a931bw> btw any1 know any public book of learning python?
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> KindOne: what text editor?
[16:58] <ikonia> a931bw: look at amazon, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[16:58] <kostkon> a931bw, diveintopython
[16:58] <gost> Why do I have so slow graphic card? My nexuiz is barelly running. I have radeon x700 pro with 128mb of ram and I have ubuntu 9.4
[16:58] <skande> a931bw: you speak french ??
[16:58] <DexterLB> ikonia: what do you mean by what is your target machine? Specifications or OS?
[16:58] <KindOne> ikonia: I made the edits in terminal with "sudo nano" command
[16:58] <a931bw> skande: nope
[16:58] <gost> Is there a way to upgrade mesa and driver without upgrading to 9.10?
[16:58] <aeon-ltd> KindOne: for nano press ctrl o and for vi+vim press ESC then :w
[16:59] <skande> okay , sdz.com should'nt help you
[16:59] <skande> a931bw: learn C
[16:59] <lson8874> i don't know what you mean with mounted. it had windows on it, but i already formated it with a live ubuntu cd. I opened it and then left clict and fomat on ext3
[16:59] <JonathanEllis> a931bw: You could ask in Ubuntu-Offtopic
[16:59] <a931bw> question if python program compiling on *nix will it compile on windows?
[16:59] <a931bw> Jonathan ty
[16:59] <a931bw> ill try
[16:59] <JonathanEllis> !offtopic | a931bw
[16:59] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: did you apply it on gparted after selecting changes?
[17:00] <JonathanEllis> a931bw: Or you could ask in a python irc channel.
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, #python
[17:00] <a931bw> im not registered
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, eh register then
[17:00] <IdleOne> !register | a931bw
[17:00] <a931bw> cant
[17:00] <a931bw> how to login?
[17:00] <rethus> hi there. i'm new at ubuntu... how can i keep my server-system actual? I know apt... but which repos should i use
[17:00] <kostkon> a931bw, check the faq given above
[17:01] <llua> why is the tranfer speed so SLOWWW, backing up 1 gig of music usb to sata. its going 700kb/s
[17:01] <blck1> Good evening
[17:01] <corey> when I try to download the latest flash player for ubuntu, i try installing the .deb.. but it tells me Wrong Architecture i386.. whats this mean
[17:01] <lson8874> sorry, but, what you mean with apply it on gparted?
[17:01] <KindOne> aeon-ltd: thanks
[17:01] <llua> corey, your using ubuntu 64-bit?
[17:01] <corey> yeah
[17:01] <corey> i cant find 64bit flash player
[17:01] <ikonia> corey: install the package flashplugin-nonfrere from the repos
[17:01] <gost> How can I see what radeon drievers I have installed? And what mesa I have installed?
[17:01] <IdleOne> !flash64 > corey
[17:02] <corey> thanks
[17:02] <Will123456> corey: you can find 64 bit flash alpha on adobe lab's website
[17:02] <blck1> Is it possebil, that a ati SB700 isn't supported and generates heat?  LOL.
[17:02] <lson8874> i open gpated and the disk shows there
[17:03] <grawity> a931bw: Freenode has never spammed ever since I registered (2 years ago).
[17:03] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: after using gparted no changes will be made before properly applying
[17:03] <Will123456> corey: just a long shot but it could be an ipv6 issue. er, not sure though
[17:03] <a931bw> ehh
[17:03] <blck1> Will: Yes I get the tip, that my harddisk controller (a SB700 and a WDC Disk) is not well supported, and cause a hot harddisk
[17:03] <IdleOne> a931bw: 4 years without any spam from freenode
[17:03] <a931bw> i wonder if someone will hack freenode
[17:04] <Will123456> blck1: sorry, i can't help you :(
[17:04] <ikonia> a931bw: stop please
[17:04] <kostkon> a931bw, they need your email in case you forget your spam, as usual
[17:04] <ikonia> a931bw: the topic of this channel is ubuntu support discussion only as you have been told
[17:04] <blck1> rgr: Yes I know, but I'm a sadist... But it is working quiet well
[17:04] <a931bw> ok ok ok going to offtopic
[17:04] <kostkon> forget your pass* lol
[17:05] <lson8874> i have a portuguese version. how do i apply? is it control+r?
[17:05] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: check in the menus
[17:05] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:05] <rgr> blck1: in all seriousness I got one working well about 3 years ago then it broke again and I moved to nvidia. Their drivers are much better even if they do still screw up a lot.
[17:05] <Guest40641> GRUB error 21 - anyone know how to solve?
[17:06] <lson8874> apply all operations?
[17:06] <IdleOne> lson8874: yes
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: yes
[17:06] <blck1> rgr: Maybe ... but if i would change... I have to srew up my notebook... so no choice
[17:07] <rgr> Guest40641: I had that when I upgraded my business pc to latest ubuntu. Upgrade totally hosed my machine. This after loading the ubuntu log from the same srive it then said it could not find.
[17:07] <lson8874> it is blocked. Actually i didn't nothing. The disk is just there. It shows on gparted, disk utillity everywhere, but not on the instalation options, just my other disks....
[17:07] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:08] <lson8874> i don't know why. And i do not know what to do....
[17:08] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: is the current partition just 1 NTFS?
[17:08]  * djura-san is away: busy
[17:09] <ikonia> !away > djura-san
[17:09] <lson8874> its ext3
[17:09] <Guest40641> rgr: did you find a solution?
[17:09] <lson8874> i formated it by left cliquing the icon on the desktop
[17:10] <lson8874> choosed ext3...
[17:10] <lson8874> trying to install 9.10
[17:10] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: wait you want to completely remove all other OSes and partitions and replace with ubuntu?
[17:10] <vladovg> hi
[17:10] <vladovg> have queston
[17:11] <gotme54545> kk Having problem again can someone help please ubuntu 9.10 wont recognize blank dvd cd's?
[17:11] <kostkon> !ask | vladovg
[17:11] <gotme54545> anyone have any idea about my problem plz?
[17:11] <vladovg> pysmd won see my ntfs partishon
[17:12] <lson8874> at this point i have windows on a 80gb disk (but irrelevant, i don't want it) and i want to instal ubuntu 9.10 on this 250gb disk, using all disk.
[17:12] <Hellmark[S10e]> Question. I have 9.10, and recently, it started not being able to use SSH tunnels unless I cycle lo down and up after startup.  What may cause this, and what can I do to fix it?
[17:12] <lson8874> i also have a 500gb sta and a 160gb ide
[17:12] <lson8874> 500gb sata
[17:12] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: do you have any experience with computer hardware?
[17:12] <lson8874> some....
[17:13] <vladovg> my qeston is how to make pysmd to see ntfs
[17:14] <lson8874> i must reppeat that i have just instaled (before the formating) windows on that disk.
[17:14] <blck1> when I spin down my hard drive... does it put the read head into the parking position?
[17:14] <aeon-ltd> if you know how to do this safely then continue(if not i don't have anymore solutions)- open up your case and remove all other drives than the one you need reboot into a live cd wipe completely and appply changes then use the regular ubuntu installer
[17:14] <ikonia> blck1: if you drive supports it via the spindown method you use
[17:14] <lson8874> so i must presume that the disk is in good condition
[17:14] <ikonia> lson8874: what's the actual problem ?
[17:15] <blck1> ikonia: I'm using the laptop-mode and enable the HD_Powersave with 127... but it parks the read head very often... is  the spin down time different to that?
[17:15] <frostburn> did the weather applet break in 9.10?
[17:15] <ikonia> blck1: I've not idea, I've not used that
[17:15] <Spoom> hi folks, i just installed karmic fresh from the alternative install cd and am getting the same issue that i had with the livecd, namely, that X boots to an out of sync screen that my flatscreen 1680x1050 philips 220sw monitor cannot display
[17:16] <Spoom> i'm currently in textmode recovery mode
[17:16] <Spoom> anyone know how to force X to use a low mode like 800x600 for now?
[17:16] <blck1> It seem like I have to try it, but thanks for help
[17:16] <ikonia> Spoom: what card do you have ?
[17:16] <ikonia> blck1: sorry
[17:16] <lson8874> ikonia: i'm trying to install ubuntu on a 250gb sata2 disk. but it doesn't show on the instalation options, only my other disks, incuding another sata that i have
[17:16] <Spoom> ikonia: geforce of some variety, built-in
[17:17] <ikonia> Spoom: ok - my first hint would be to force the use of "vesa" driver in the xorg configuration file, then IF you have a working screen lets fix it
[17:17] <Spoom> ok
[17:17] <Spoom> and on that note, where DID xorg.conf disappear to, anyway?
[17:17] <ikonia> lson8874: are the other disks on the same sata controller
[17:18] <lson8874> aeon-ltd: would that not be a problem when i reinstall all the drives? will that not mess things with the grub?
[17:19] <aeon-ltd> lson8874: although this is not a 'clean' solution you can edit grub later to boot from other drives and partitions
[17:19] <Spoom> ikonia: where should i go from here?  i'm not exactly certain as to how to get X to use the vesa driver
[17:19] <Spoom> remember, this is out-of-the-box karmic
[17:19] <Spoom> i think it's using NV right now
[17:20] <lson8874> ikonia: well, i do not know... i must say that the disk shows on gparted and on location menu, i mean everywhere except on the ubuntu instalation options
[17:21] <lson8874> aeon-ltd: if no ther solution appears, i will try that
[17:21] <ian_> i just installed ubuntu 9.1, and the graphics don't look as detailed as they should.
[17:21] <lson8874> i must go now
[17:21] <lson8874> thanks for your help
[17:22] <Spoom> can someone assist me to get X to use a low-graphics mode and/or driver?  it's booting into an out-of-sync screen atm, in karmic's out of the box configuration
[17:23] <sinurge> use the hardware drivers option
[17:23] <Spoom> sinurge: if you're referring to me, i can't do that as i'm currently in text mode in another terminal
[17:23] <sinurge> from system>hardware drivers it might help u
[17:23] <pq_> hi all
[17:24] <sinurge> @spoom !oh sorry
[17:24] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: add this to grub boot options at the end of the kernel line 'vga=769'
[17:24] <ian_> or i guess what i'm trying to say is that the graphics don't look nearly as good as they did on the previous version of ubuntu i had installed on my computer.
[17:24] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: ok, i'll try that, thanks
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> Spoom:  installed the proper nvidia drivers yet?
[17:24] <Spoom> Dr_Willis: is there a way i can do that from textmode?
[17:24] <kostkon> ian_, it seems that you are not using the native res of your monitor
[17:24] <mohan_> hi, how to get the idle time of a process with a particular process id?
[17:25] <pq_> someone know how to make tv out work for ati cards in karmic?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Spoom:  I think jocky-<tab> shows a cli tool now .  Or figure out what package and sudo apt-get install WHATEVER for the proper driver version
[17:25] <vladovg> how to mace pysmd to see ntfs partisions
[17:25] <Spoom> Dr_Willis: i'll try that too, thanks
[17:25] <yml> hello, does anyone know how to activate the log in an IRC room wiht empathy ? and how to view the log ?
[17:25] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: if you mean the time its been on since start you can install htop to view that info
[17:26] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: i want to get that info in shell script
[17:26] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: for example a process with id 30432 is idle from how much time
[17:27] <Zane2> what is the default passsword for root?
[17:27] <syk> !root
[17:27] <IdleOne> Zane2: there isn't any
[17:27] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: actually you already have 'top' installed just enter that into a terminal
[17:27] <Zane2> auth failed
[17:28] <IdleOne> Zane2: use sudo command to get root privs
[17:28] <Zane2> i was trying to loginto the desktop
[17:28] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: i have top installed in my machine
[17:28] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: yeah, use it
[17:29] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: you want me to do "top | grep processid"?
[17:29] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: no just top
[17:30] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: but it will show all processes information right?
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> mohan_: yeah, its a downside of top
[17:30] <Spoom> no joy with the vga=769 kernel option, same deal
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> top can sort , or at least htop can :)
[17:30] <mohan_> aeon-ltd: ok
[17:30] <pq_> mohan_ see if "ps aux | grep $PID" or similar could help you
[17:31] <mohan_> pq_: ok thank you. i will try it
[17:31] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: did it change res though?
[17:31] <CountDown> I'm running 9.10 PPC on an iBook G4 laptop.  The Gnome Power Manager doesn't list any options for controlling the suspend/hibernate/screen dim behavior when running on the battery.  Anyone know where these options went?
[17:32] <okubax> whis got the chrome os to work on virtual box in ubuntu karmic? I compiled the source code and built the image but the networking doesnt work
[17:32] <ccmonster> the chrome os has a sneak peak already?
[17:32] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: it displayed the same thing on my flatscreen, a bouncing box saying that it couldn't display that mode
[17:33] <Spoom> (which is weird as this is a high-res flatscreen)
[17:34] <aeon-ltd> Spoom: damn there are settings for 800x600 vga=771 or 1024x768 vga=773 or 1280x1024 vga=775
[17:34] <Spoom> aeon-ltd: i've tried 771 already with the same results
[17:34] <Spoom> anyway
[17:34] <Spoom> i just installed the nvidia driver and wrote out an xorg.conf with nvidia-xconfig so we'll see how that works
[17:34] <naknomik> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Karkic on a server which had a RAID 1 setup with two identical HDDs. I don't want the RAID now, and want to only install on HDD1, but when Ubuntu Live CD boots, it automatically loads the RAID disk as 'md' device and the installer won't give me an option to install on individual disk. How do I undo the RAID?
[17:36] <AmIMeYet> Hi. Anyone here have a script to decapitalize a filename? I'm trying to fix some mistakes of a windows programmer :S
[17:38] <jcrawford> guys if i want a command to run everytime i login to my system, or better yet system startup where would i put this command?
[17:38] <cankoy> AmIMeYet: /join #bash
[17:38] <AmIMeYet> cankoy: Okay, thank's!
[17:38] <jcrawford> ssh -L 3306:localhost:3306<EMAIL_ADDRESS>&
[17:38] <sshc> is ubunt pronounced ew-boon-two or you-boon-two?
[17:38] <alokito> jcrawford: I guess in rc.d file :-/
[17:38] <jcrawford> that's what I want to run everytime it boots up
[17:38] <jcrawford> there is no /etc/rc.d
[17:38] <rethus> which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:39] <alokito> jcrawford: u can do it graphically in gnome/kde
[17:39] <Dnrock> jcrawford: gnome ?
[17:39] <jcrawford> gnome
[17:39] <jcrawford> yes
[17:39] <fasutus> is anyone around for some quick help concerning graphics?
[17:41] <mars_> @all: Hi
[17:41] <cellofellow> mars_: hi
[17:41] <ChogyDan> sshc: 0:48  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l02bhwofEqw
[17:42] <mars_> Can anyone give me a hint how to get changes on ubuntu 9.10 on a live usb stick written to the same disk formatet to fat32?
[17:42] <the9a3eedi> Hi. I need a little help trying to fix my initramfs. at least a small tip. After installing some packages and updating, after rebooting I seem to be getting a kernel error. After some googling I found this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1047068 .. so I tried doing what it said by chrooting into my root.disk file and updating initramfs from there. But that didn't work. Any ideas? I installed Ubuntu 9.10 x86_64 using
[17:42] <mars_> (... while system running)
[17:42] <alabd_> grawity: it is ok now but how a vpn connection will be enabled in network maager ?How to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/ ?
[17:43] <alabd_> How to solve this http://paste.ubuntu.com/323482/ ?
[17:43] <naknomik> How to get rid of the software RAID that was created so I get my disks back as individual disks for a new installation? Somehow when Live CD boots, it detects the RAID and loads it automatically.
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> naknomik:  you dont want tokeep any data on the disks?
[17:44] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a free tool for hard drive burn-in?
[17:44] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: a hard drive burn-in? oO i guess you can use dd but why?
[17:45] <mars_> Anyone an idea?
[17:45] <Roby> Hello, i have a problem with my Graphics on Ubuntu 9.10 ( and every previous versions )
[17:45] <Sierradump> Can someone help me "learn" about the different partitions it takes to setup ubuntu?  I want to install to an SD Card, but I want to cut back on the reads/writes
[17:45] <simplexio> naknomik: mdadm --help, or if you just want delete everything just repartiotion disks
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> Sierradump:  ive seen 'netbook' forum threads that discuss all the options/tricks to do that.
[17:46] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: to do standardized burn-in? Also, to look at what they actually do to the drive (ie as research)
[17:46] <Sierradump> I am going to use the SD Card as my "hardrive" to install XBMC onto.
[17:46] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: i dont know what you try to achieve, but if you just want to stresstest a new hd for a while dd will do fine
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> Sierradump:  i belive the basics was to use ext2, and  move some tmp/cache dirs to ram.  was the core of most of what i recall reading
[17:47] <Roby> Could anyone help me with my problem? ive just installed the graphics drivers of my graphics card, ( Ati HD 3870x2 ) but i get a splash logo with AMD Unsupported hardware, what can i do?
[17:48] <naknomik> Dr_Willis: No I don't want to keep data.
[17:48] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: real burn-in should at a minimum monitor SMART parameters while doing rw specifically designed to exercise the full range of expected operation. dd is really not a burn-in tool.
[17:49] <bzrk_> Mike_lifeguard: open two terminals, run dd in one, smartctl in the other
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> naknomik:  use fdisk delete the partitons.. reboot..  reinstall
[17:50] <Mike_lifeguard> bzrk_: that's useful, thanks
[17:50] <fire> hello
[17:50] <mars_> Can anyone help me? I use a usb live stick of ubuntu 9.10 and want it to keep changings on the same usb stick which is formated to fat32
[17:50] <rethus> big community (the biggest for linux... much people say), but seems the hardest one to get an easy answer :(
[17:50] <sllide> rethus: lol
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  how did you make this usb-live-ubunt 9.10 ?
[17:51] <sllide> maiby i can help
[17:51] <fire> i need install a cluster
[17:51] <kostkon> !patience | rethus
[17:51] <sllide> "maiby"
[17:51] <ubuspire> hi all, network manager will start dnsmasq with some options if i set an interface to "shared". how do i edit those options?
[17:51] <mars_> Dr_willis: using unetbooting
[17:51] <asdasd> how much space need to install Ubuntu? / ¿? /home ¿? /swap ¿?
[17:51] <rethus> kostkon: mhh. interesting hint.. in other irc u got banned if u repeat ur quest. quickly :)
[17:52] <rethus> which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:52] <blck1> asdasd, not more than 10 gb, but why not the whole hard diskk?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  theres ways to make it have a persistant 'save' file and thus keep changes.. or use the ubuntu usb disk creator tool.    I think pendrivelinux.com or the ubuntu forums mention how to make a unetbotin install be persistant.
[17:52] <blck1> asdasd, swap depends to your ram
[17:52] <ChogyDan> asdasd: 8g for /    at least 1g for swap plus ram, but at least as much swap as your ram.  The rest to /home
[17:53] <cellofellow> asdasd: you want your swap > your ram cause that's where your ram goes when you hibernate.
[17:53] <rethus> which ubuntu repos are to use to keep my ubuntu server up to date?
[17:53] <mars_> Dr_Willis: Thanks, so the keywords might be unetbootin and persistant? Is that what its called?
[17:54] <Riotta> I want to start my own PPA and looking some help about it can someone point me to some help files on it? mainly how to build packages for ppa?
[17:54] <cellofellow> rethus: normal and updates should do it.
[17:54] <LjL> !repositories | rethus
[17:54] <ChogyDan> rethus: what do you mean, uptodate?  why not just the security one?
[17:54] <kostkon> !packaging | Riotta
[17:54] <LjL> cellofellow: and security
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  yep.  i recall lookingit up a few months back. you edit the syslinux.cfg file to add some option. and make a save 'file' for the changes
[17:54] <Bergcube> My wife has run into a small showstopper with 9.10. She follows the language course at http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/spanish/mividaloca/ and this worked in 9.04, but not after upgrade. I have tried with 64 bit and 32 bit, with and without the codecs from medibuntu. I have googled, and still end up short. It wouldn't be fun to have to downgrade her PC, so does anyone have any sensible advice?
[17:54] <cellofellow> LjL: oh, yes, of course. rethus ^^^^^
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  or just use the usb-creator tool from a live cd, OR that unetbootin install and do it to a 2nd flash drive.. :) that maybe eaier
[17:55] <rethus> thx
[17:55] <kostkon> Riotta, also https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA
[17:55] <Riotta> thx
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397 has some of the info. but may be out of date for 9.10
[17:56] <rethus> ChogyDan: i mean security updates for server
[17:56] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: what isnt working?
[17:56] <rethus> maybe in future sum distribution update...
[17:56] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm using karmic with nvidia restricted drivers 185.  i noticed that the CPU usage on the X process is rather high.  from 22-40% on idle.  i don't even have desktop effects turned on.  any idea what's wrong
[17:56] <doonhamer> Hi , could somebody tell me where to navigate to within  my file system to locate quanta plus , specificaly I am trying to specify quanta plus as the default editor for greasmonkey scripts.
[17:56] <rethus> how can i make a distibution update with apt?
[17:57] <SusanDitweiller> hi all
[17:57] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  When clicking on an episode the window opens as intended, but after that it stops with "loading" for ever.
[17:57] <coachz> are ubuntu people friendly ?  :-)
[17:57] <maco> coachz: i think so, yes
[17:57] <dracnoc> rethus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:57] <cellofellow> coachz: ubuntu people are people. So, mostly yes.
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  it has an icon in the menus? if so drag the icon to the desktop. and check its propertoes to see what its launching and the path to the tool.
[17:57] <maco> rethus: its generally not recommended
[17:57] <mars_> Sorry for me not getting all you said. I am not nativly speaking english. Did I understand you right that there is way to get "persistent" ubuntu drives using a somehow modified unetbootin version that is somewhere out there?
[17:57] <coachz> hehe
[17:57] <maco> rethus: if you want to use the command line in general, sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:57] <coachz>  are there any big diffs of the latest Ubuntu or Fedora that make one more compelling
[17:58] <cellofellow> rethus: distro updates with ubuntu-server always go very smoothly for me. Ubuntu desktop not so much.
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> guys - anybody seen this error:(EE) NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.
[17:58] <Ome> fulat2k, the monitor uses some of your processor
[17:58] <ChogyDan> rethus: can you please ask your whole question in a single line?  its getting confusing
[17:58] <doonhamer> ty Dr_willis  , lol now why didnt I think of that !
[17:58] <Scoup> i have wireless and i want to share to router wireless on cable, someone can help me?
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> i come from the Solaris world
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> mars_:  yes. theres a small edit to the syslinux.cfg file and the creation of a ext3 'filesystem' in a file - to store the changes
[17:58] <maco> coachz: i dont know whats in latest fedora. youd have to read release notes from both and compare
[17:58] <wuffi600> hi.
[17:58] <Grenyaris> I have to use corkscrew at [insert location here] and I want to use SCP with my alternate ssh config file...
[17:58] <Grenyaris> This is my command so far, but it fails
[17:58] <Grenyaris> scp -F ~/.ssh/alt_config sumo@chuckwagon.com:/home/gort/some_random_file /alt/location/
[17:58] <Moon_Doggy> i'm trying to make my desktop wireless but using the iwconfig command shows no wireless extension, do i need to scan for hardware changes?
[17:58] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: well, it seems to be working for me
[17:58] <fulat2k> Ome: before this (8.10), cpu usage was stable at 1-2%
[17:58] <fulat2k> Ome: even with the monitor on.
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  i still wonder why you can tdo a 'properties' on the menus item. :( that would save a step
[17:58] <cellofellow> coachz: Fedora has some newer software packages (newer version of Xorg for example) but its design philosophy is more geared towards geeky types who know what they are doing.
[17:58] <coachz> i see
[17:58] <SusanDitweiller> i come from solaris world
[17:59] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Thanks, that is good to hear.  And do you run a (more or less) default Ubuntu setup?
[17:59] <Grenyaris> It tells me the usage is wrong...
[17:59] <coachz> i'm a geeky type who doesn't know what he's doing
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> never had to mess with video drivers
[17:59] <Ome> fulat2k, i have an old cpu and i have the same problem :)
[17:59] <inivex> solaris... HA!
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> yep
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> Started in Solaris 2.6
[17:59] <cellofellow> coachz: Ubuntu (or Ubuntu-based like Mint and SuperOS) are better choices then.
[17:59] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: I suppose.  This is an upgrade from 8.10 atm
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> but now this: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Error recovery failed.
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> very annoying
[17:59] <fulat2k> Ome: i turned off System Monitor and did a vmstat.  same thing.  i'm running on a C2D 1.8 :)
[17:59] <FloodBot1> SusanDitweiller: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:59] <mars_> Dr_Willis: Okay. Thanks. I think thats it after I know what to look for.
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> doesnt even start
[17:59] <alabd_> how to restart network-manager-openvpn
[17:59] <SusanDitweiller> oh
[17:59] <mars_> all: Ciao!
[17:59] <Ome> fulat2k, so i don't know what else
[18:00] <fulat2k> Ome: hmm... prolly change to an older driver and see what's wrong :)
[18:00] <doonhamer> i see your point Dr Willis! ,
[18:00] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  Ok, thanks.  Knowing it works for SOME helps.  Plus then I don't think there's any point in downgrading.
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  yea. :)  A simple way to see what things are actially called/named/path would be handy
[18:00] <simplexio> Bergcube: on my system(9.10 in virtualbox) video plays nice, but i cant hear sound, which probably because i dont have audio enabled
[18:00] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: who you mind running a command off my website?
[18:01] <Bergcube> simplexio~  thanks.
[18:01] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  What do you mean?
[18:01] <ChogyDan> Bergcube: nvm: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras sun-java6-plugin && sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun && sudo apt-get remove mozilla-plugin-gnash swf-player
[18:02] <Bergcube> ChogyDan~  I'll give it a try.  I already have the restricted extras, but the rest is honestly new for me.
[18:02] <coachz> does ubuntu support 64 bit intel ?
[18:02] <cellofellow> coachz: yes
[18:02] <coachz> cool
[18:02] <cellofellow> coachz: they call it amd64
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> and 64bit amd. :)
[18:03] <doonhamer> and in general drwillis , where would executables be kept , the only path i am seeing (doing as you sugested ) is to the desktop where the shortcut resides
[18:03] <dAlfa89_> Is there a MSPaint clone for Ubuntu?
[18:03] <coachz> amd ?
[18:03] <cellofellow> dAlfa89_: not really, but there's always GIMP.
[18:03] <coachz> that's not intel
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> doonhamer:  if you know the name of the binary, you can use the 'which COMMAND'  to find the proper path to it
[18:03] <wuffi600> If i do a "aptitude update" i get an error-message about "signature verification", please see http://paste.ubuntu.com/323544/ . How can i get rid of the error-message and get aptitude working?
[18:03] <cellofellow> coachz: amd came up witthe x86_64 architecture so they call it amd64.
[18:03] <doonhamer> ok will atept that thanks drwillis
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  amd64 is the generic term
[18:03] <coachz> ok, that's funky
[18:03] <gburton> one thing that is irritating about gimp is you cant easily draw a square, or a straight line... it would be nice to have a boring, plain and simple "raster graphics" extension.
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> coachz:  history of computers :)
[18:03] <cellofellow> coachz: the i386 architecture in Ubuntu is regular x86.
[18:04] <mMezquitale> dAlfa89_, yes but its a lot better than paint, itś called GIMP