[00:00] <Emanon> and btw pfifo dcfldd works better (i think)
[00:00] <pfifo> Emanon, guess it depends on the file
[00:00] <sebsebseb> earthling_: anyway your welcome
[00:01] <earthling_> sebsebseb, so I can install other desktops at the same time, and then it keeps track of all the k programs if I want to delete it?
[00:01] <sebsebseb> earthling_: uh no not exactly, but
[00:01] <earthling_> on aptitude
[00:01] <FalsAlarm> sudo locate mysqld.sock
[00:01] <sebsebseb> earthling_: well maybe on aptitude, but  when I used aptitude I used it instead of typing in apt-get mainly
[00:01] <FalsAlarm> unable to find this file on my system, where can I get it from?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> earthling_: there are  ways to remove other desktops with commands
[00:02] <andre_pl> pfifo: yeah. its too slow though :( the file exists on a raid 5 array thats in the process of rebuilding itself for the next 12 hours or so... and writing all that extra data to disk is gonna take forever
[00:03] <earthling_> sebsebseb, you have kubuntu and gnome both installed?
[00:03] <cjcopi>  andre_pl: checkout truncate(1) for a command line tool or truncate(2)/ftruncate(2) for a library routine.  The key will be to make sure you get the size you want to keep correct otherwise you will lose information!
[00:03] <sebsebseb> earthling_: not at the moment,  since  another distro, but  in  the past well yes, and Lubuntu and Xubuntu as well
[00:04] <andre_pl> cjcopi: THANKS!
[00:04] <earthling_> neat
[00:04] <sebsebseb> earthling_: and in the distro I currently am on,  Gnome, KDE, and a preview of the look for the next Gnome
[00:05] <sebsebseb> earthling_: that will probably be changed quite a bit before the final version of Gnome 3 comes out, probably in March next year, but this has gone off topic now :D
[00:05] <Emanon> although dc3dd was updated more recently and is a patch instead of a fork so...
[00:05] <FunkyELF> When is the 10.10 release date?
[00:06] <Emanon> october some time FunkyELF
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: next month on Sunday the 10th
[00:06] <Emanon> thus the 10.10
[00:06] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: 10/10/10
[00:06] <Emanon> they actually going for 10.10.10?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: yep
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: instead of Thursday 28th October
[00:06] <haytham-med> 10 10 10 :)
[00:06] <Emanon> awesome think they will make the deadline?
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: of course
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Emanon: its nearly ready now
[00:06] <hshsh> anyone use dd-wrt???
[00:06] <Emanon> okidoke
[00:06] <Emanon> hshsh: i do
[00:07] <earthling_> ok
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Emanon: normally they release final versions and alphas and betas and relase candidates on a Thursday
[00:07] <FunkyELF> sebsebseb, I've never used Ubuntu (Gentoo user) but I just built a new system and want to give it a go.... think I should use the beta now or just wait till 10.10?
[00:08] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: oh this isn't really the channel for 10.10, since
[00:08] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: the final version isn't out yet, but I'll answer that in #ubuntu+1
[00:09] <kronosphere> my trendnet wifi pci card drivers are not compatible w/ win7 so i am wondering how to find out if it is compatible with ubuntu?
[00:09] <sebsebseb> FunkyELF: join there :)
[00:10] <jsec> kronosphere: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[00:10] <FunkyELF> sebsebseb, joined
[00:10] <kronosphere> jsec: you da-man!
[00:13] <FalsAlarm> what is the command to set the mysql root password
[00:13] <FalsAlarm> after just installing mysql-server package
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: run: sudo lshw -C network   to find the chip out, websearch the product line to find guides
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !sql
[00:16] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[00:17] <_Neytiri_> how do i install a gui onto 10.4.1
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: the desktop has a gui by default
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> _Neytiri_: well sudo apt-get install X for starters then sudo apt-get install (de or wm of choice)
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: *desktop ISO
[00:18] <FalsAlarm> wickedSA, I have mysql-server package installed, should I switch to mysql-server-5.0 ?
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> _Neytiri_: are you on server?
[00:19] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: I think mysql-server is a meta package, you can try that comand without the -5.0
[00:19] <FalsAlarm> actually i only see the mysql-server-5.1 package
[00:19] <FalsAlarm> is that stable?
[00:19] <wickedSA> FalsAlarm: ok, try it with -5.1
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: if you wanted a desktop OS, why did you install server???????/
[00:20] <_Neytiri_> i want a server for most of what i run, i need a guy for 1 application on my server
[00:21] <jrib> _Neytiri_: what app?
[00:21] <_Neytiri_> one i maid
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: you can install server apps on the desktop OS
[00:21] <jrib> _Neytiri_: pick your favorite window manager and install it I guess...
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: if you install a desktop on it you wil essentially have the desktop OS but will have double the kernels
[00:22] <_Neytiri_> i would rather not have to resintall everything
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    then
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _Neytiri_: next time, install the desktop system will you, its what you need
[00:23] <_Neytiri_> thaknyou and the rest of my rack is running server os so i would hate to have to have 1 desktip out of 48 servers
[00:23] <aef> on my lucid amd64 box i can get the package ia32-sun-java6-bin which only seems to be the java JRE. is there a way to get the 32 bit JDK on my 64 bit system?
[00:24] <g0tcha> hey guys, im trying to compile something that requires openssl, openssl is installed but it still says it cannot find it.. i tried to ./configure wit the location of openssl and still nothing.. any ideas?
[00:24] <Sir_Konrad> hey, am I allowed to use the Ubuntu logo on my site to show that I install it on machines that ship out of my company?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: you'll need the -dev package for it too
[00:24] <psusi> g0tcha, did you install openssl-dev?
[00:24] <g0tcha> i dont think so
[00:24] <g0tcha> let me check
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Sir_Konrad: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[00:24] <Sir_Konrad> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:25] <psusi> it's looking for the header and .a files, which are not in the normal package... you need -dev
[00:25] <g0tcha> it says "it couldnt find package penssl-dev
[00:25] <psusi> hopefully you can look at what you just pasted and spot the error yourself
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: try: apt-cache search open | grep ssl | grep dev | less
[00:26] <g0tcha> ActionParsnip, hmm bunch of stuff i dont understand showed up.. what should i look for?
[00:27] <psusi> hrm... actually... wtf?  there isn't an openssl-dev
[00:27] <tacomaster> ok maybe im doing this wrong but when i click share my internet connection on my wireless so i can get a desktop internet (only have wireless) it changes my ip of my wireless to something off the subnet of my wireless router so it wont connect?
[00:27] <kevin_> heuu
[00:27] <kevin_> i'm lost
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> g0tcha: the leftmost column are the package names
[00:27] <kevin_> this bot?
[00:28] <UnknownException> if i have linux mint, can i install ubuntu without the live cd, etc?
[00:28] <etrnl> so I have a machine with 10.04 on it, it was working fine and then I rebooted it and now its stuck at the ubuntu boot logo, but I can still ssh into it
[00:28] <messi> g0tcha: just try dpkg -L openssl-dev to see if there would be some output (none means not installed)
[00:28] <g0tcha> this libcurl4-openssl-dev ?
[00:28] <kevin_> how exit this chat?
[00:29] <Emanon> kevin_: /part
[00:29] <kevin_> thanks
[00:29] <kevin_> bye all
[00:29] <Emanon> np
[00:29] <etrnl> anyone?
[00:30] <UnknownException> anyone got any ideas for my question.
[00:30] <th0r> etrnl: I'm anyone
[00:30] <pfifo> UnknownException, yes you can
[00:30] <etrnl> o I have a machine with 10.04 on it, it was working fine and then I rebooted it and now its stuck at the ubuntu boot logo, but I can still ssh into it
[00:30] <g0tcha> messi, its not installed
[00:31] <Emanon> no idea etrnl
[00:31] <etrnl> all I did was uninstall/install the evtouch driver
[00:31] <Emanon> same for UnknownException
[00:31] <etrnl> and all the sudden gdm isn't starting
[00:31] <Emanon> you were both heard but we're all stumped for now
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> UnknownException: if you have unpartitioned space, you can mount the CD and maybe run the nistaller but I doubt it. You should boot to USB / CD and install
[00:32] <th0r> etrnl: if you can ssh into it, check dmesg and /var/log/messages for some indication of what went wrong starting X
[00:32] <etrnl> lemme see if unininstalling it fixes anything
[00:32] <Emanon> actually you can use virt-manager to install to other partitions/drives from a running os try that
[00:32] <UnknownException> haha... thanks for the answer. ok so here is what i have done. im in linux mint right now, and i typed sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[00:32] <jfer> hi. i would like o know how to package a deb from an archive of binaries
[00:32] <Agent001> Hi, I'm having trouble syncing ipod with rhythmbox 0.31.1
[00:32] <pfifo> UnknownException, you can use the package debootstrap to setup and build a base system but it is not easy, your much better off installing from CD
[00:32] <UnknownException> it did a lot of stuff. but i dont know the implication
[00:33] <Emanon> Agent001: yea its spotty
[00:33] <Agent001> spotty?
[00:33] <UnknownException> pfifo: ActionParsnip thanks guys. i guess i will just try with cd. the last time i tried , ran into some issues with the grub loader. i could not boot into windows. but then somehow got it to work. just wanted to avoid that.
[00:33] <Emanon> sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt Agent001
[00:34] <Emanon> i have trouble with my iphone
[00:34] <kasansweat> Anyone using xpra? I've got it working, but only on the same LAN. Would love to get it working through the internet, but it appears to be a lag problem (windows pop up, but don't "populate") Any ideas?
[00:34] <Emanon> in fact i am installing a virtual machine with windows 7 right now to get around that
[00:34] <kevin_> existe t'il des serveur ubuntu francais?
[00:34] <kevin_> french*
[00:34] <JrGong> just installed ubuntu 10.4 server and I guess because I installed without a network connection my sources.list is not populated....anyone know where I can find a copy?
[00:34] <Emanon> !fr | kevin_
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: i can give you one?
[00:34] <kevin_> thanks
[00:35] <JrGong> thanks ActionParsnip
[00:35] <JrGong> feel free to pm me :)
[00:35] <Agent001> I've unable to get rhythmbox, gtkpod, banshee, to sync to my ipod. Is that a coincidence?
[00:35] <kevin_> #ubuntu-fr
[00:35] <etrnl> th0r, I should be looking for something relating to x11 or gdm, correct?
[00:35] <Emanon> np
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: http://pastebin.com/kYwGaH5q
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: you may have to import some GPG keys but cross that when you get to it
[00:35] <Emanon> no Agent001 if your device decides linux aint cutting it you're pretty much SOL sorry
[00:35] <th0r> etrnl: correct....there is also a boot.log if I recall correctly (don't have linux booted up at the moment)
[00:35] <JrGong> yup yup ...... I really appreciate it ActionParsnip
[00:36] <Emanon> pray that they will finish idroid soon
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> JrGong: no worries duder
[00:36] <JrGong> :)
[00:37] <etrnl> th0r:  weird it only has a log of up to starting CUPS, which never got a response
[00:37] <Emanon> if you have a computer that can handle VM's and a legit install disk you might try virtualbox or virt-manager Agent001
[00:37] <Emanon> then you can just do it natively in windows
[00:38] <etrnl> removed evtouch drivers and rebooting now
[00:38] <th0r> etrnl: I am booting my vm now so I can take a look
[00:38] <ssfdre38> how can i update my server?
[00:38] <Fredrick> how do i use neflix in ubuntu
[00:38] <etrnl> so its something with evtouch
[00:38] <etrnl> weird
[00:38] <Emanon> you dont Fredrick
[00:38] <etrnl> rebooted just fine'
[00:38] <Emanon> netflix wont allow it
[00:38] <Fredrick> there is no support?
[00:38] <Emanon> not yet
[00:39] <Fredrick> no way to use wine?
[00:39] <Emanon> dont think so
[00:39] <Fredrick> this sucks
[00:39] <kasansweat> Fredrick: yeah, I have it, but I run XP in Virtualbox. Ugly hack, but in a beefy enough system it works well
[00:39] <Agent001> Can you run itunes on wine?
[00:39] <Emanon> similar to apple they have been fighting us
[00:39] <kasansweat> Fredrick: how fast is your computer?
[00:39] <Emanon> Agent001: not after version 6
[00:39] <jfer> how can i package a deb from an archive of binaries?
[00:39] <Emanon> kasansweat: is right but thats not exactly in linux
[00:39] <Fredrick> this is my moms, so its pot a 1ghz prosseser
[00:40] <Emanon> might try the wii version of netflix in the dolphin wii emulator
[00:40] <etrnl> 1ghz procs still exist?
[00:40] <etrnl> :x
[00:40] <kasansweat> Oh, I know.  It's the only reason I would even have it on there.
[00:40] <Fredrick> ha yea, i know
[00:40] <Emanon> as soon as i get my wii re jailbroken ill make an image and try
[00:40] <kasansweat> I read somewhere that Netflix on Wii doesn't have all the same movies/shows as the computer version.
[00:41] <etrnl> ok so it was a bag config option
[00:41] <Fredrick> whats the point of a jail broken wii?
[00:41] <Emanon> actually there is an *ahem* certain version of windows 7 thats halfway decent kasansweat
[00:41] <kasansweat> Not sure if its true though
[00:41] <etrnl> back to the drawing board
[00:41] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: homebrew channel, and thats it also its not the right place to post here
[00:41] <kasansweat> Emanon: haha yeah, but since that's literally all I use that Virtualbox XP installation for, I figure i won't fix it if it ain't broke
[00:41] <kasansweat> that's my media center pc
[00:42] <Fredrick> why not aeon-ltd?
[00:42] <Fredrick> i use ubuntu, and its an ubuntu compatibility issue
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: because this is #ubuntu
[00:42] <Fredrick> i use ubuntu
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> Fredrick: don;t matter, this isn't a club, this is a support channek for ubuntu issues not for ubuntu users in general
[00:43] <ohshaith55> hello, i would like to boot into ubuntu off of a dvd could somebody help me out?
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> *channel
[00:43] <Emanon> ohshaith55: sure what trouble you having?
[00:43] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: burn the iso to the disc
[00:43] <Emanon> yea thats pretty much it
[00:43] <datacrusher> ohshaith55, can you download and burn the iso?
[00:44] <ohshaith55> no trouble yet, yeah i can handle burning it
[00:44] <sirecat> ohshaith55: Yeah just restart the computer with the dvd in the drive. Look for an option to boot to cd/dvd and there you go
[00:44] <tca> is there a channel specifically for 10.10 beta?
[00:44] <Emanon> yea just get the desktop version burn it and boot from it
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> !ubuntu+1 | tca
[00:44] <ohshaith55> that's what i thought but i was warned by a friend who did something wrong and had to spend 3 hours in here so i wanted to make sure
[00:44] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: you may need to tweak the BIOS
[00:44] <ohshaith55> :)
[00:45] <ohshaith55> i know how do that, too
[00:45] <aeon-ltd> ohshaith55: oh, good. sounds like you'll be fine
[00:45] <Emanon> yea the live disk does nothing to your system no worries there
[00:45] <ohshaith55> it burned in like 30 seconds? does that most likely mean it didn't work?
[00:45] <rbastic> what type of computer is it oshaith55, on my asus g50v (approx 2 yr old machine, was higher-end laptop) i had to set bios mode to Compat..
[00:46] <ohshaith55> win7 like 4 years old
[00:46] <gudmund_> hi, i think i got an alsa problem, but im not an expert
[00:46] <Emanon> nah doesnt take very long to burn the desktop image
[00:46] <ohshaith55> i can handle the bios, i've booted from usb, before
[00:46] <Emanon> !details | gudmund_
[00:47] <ohshaith55> ok i'm gonna come into here on a mobile client in case something happens
[00:47] <Emanon> sounds good ohshaith55
[00:48] <SubCool> Hey, stupid question- I just asked this last night, and it helped, but now i remember why i was curious, I need to know a HD Format that is permitable between on 3 OS's, and - allows for greater than 4gb files (movies/OS images). WHich would be the best option?
[00:48] <gudmund_> im running ubuntu 9.10 on my new asus Eee 1001px, the sound works, but when i plug in the headset there is no sound
[00:48] <SubCool> I already have a majority of my drive taken to Fat32, but now i also need something larger...
[00:48] <BitEncrypt> where is a good tutorial on how to install source code
[00:48] <ohshaith55> ok, i gotta restore my droid incredible to stock so i get my apps back... i'm guessing you guys know what i'm talking aobut
[00:48] <Emanon> format or container SubCool?
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> gudmund_: could try the latest alsa: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[00:48] <jrib> !compile > BitEncrypt
[00:49] <gudmund_> i tried to install latest alsa backports like described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[00:49] <jrib> BitEncrypt: though in general it is better to use the repositories.  We can give you better help if you tell us exactly what you want to install
[00:49] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: do you know how to use terminal?
[00:49] <SubCool> Emanon, container?
[00:49] <gudmund_> but when i got new drivers the mic is not working
[00:49] <jfer> SubCool if you are are running windows and linux i would use ntfs
[00:49] <Emanon> oh thought you meant high def sorry
[00:49] <rbastic> gudmund_, what drivers did you get?
[00:49] <SubCool> jfer, im using all three
[00:49] <Emanon> lol i was about to suggest .mkv haha
[00:49] <SubCool> This is for a Media server- All three will access it, and write to it,
[00:50] <Emanon> yea just go ntfs SubCool
[00:50] <jfer> all three being?
[00:50] <rbastic> gudmund_, or are you sure you're using the correct ones? if you have the correct driver set in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:50] <SubCool> Windows,  linux, MAC
[00:50] <jfer> ok yer ntfs would be best
[00:50] <SubCool> but mac cant write to NTFS right?
[00:50] <new> can any body help me with backtrack
[00:50] <SubCool> damn-
[00:50] <Emanon> how new?
[00:50] <SubCool> i already have issues with it
[00:50] <gudmund_> aeon-ltd: yea i know terminal
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> new: ask in #backtrack
[00:50] <sebsebseb> new: Backtrack is not meant to be used as a desktop OS, its for security penetration
[00:50] <rbastic> gudmund_, then generally everything should work fine but you might have to check settings with alsamixer and also Sound Preferences in the gui
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !backtrack | new
[00:50] <MrPPS> hey guys, i'm trying to get my ubuntu server to be a host for Xen VM's, and I'm trying to install xen-tools, but the package isn't available apparently, and ubuntu-xen-server won't install without it - anyone know how i can install it?
[00:50] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: ok, go to a terminal type alsamixer
[00:50] <gudmund_> i got linux-backports-alsa-drivers
[00:51] <jfer> SubCool you may want to checkout http://macntfs-3g.blogspot.com/
[00:51] <gudmund_> oky i got alsamixer running
[00:51] <SubCool> awesome- thanks
[00:51] <SubCool> gladly
[00:51] <gudmund_> can i as well use gnome-alsamixer?
[00:52] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: using the up arrow key make sure you max out all bars and none if them show MM, they should be 00
[00:52] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: yeah
[00:52] <FalsAlarm> how do i check which packages are installed using apt-get?
[00:52] <gudmund_> okey
[00:52] <gudmund_> ok everything maxed
[00:53] <BitEncrypt> would anybody help me install a driver
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: now try your headphones
[00:53] <gudmund_> but note that ive gone back to my old drivers
[00:53] <BitEncrypt> from source code
[00:53] <JLaverne> sure BitEncrypt
[00:53] <randomOfAmber> how can I get a .deb and all it's dependencies into a folder? I don't know what it's dependencies are
[00:53] <gudmund_> oky no sound
[00:53] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i can help
[00:53] <jrib> BitEncrypt: tell us *exactly* what you want to install
[00:53] <SubCool> jfer, Emanon  what about Ext3 or Ext2?
[00:53] <aeon-ltd> FalsAlarm: dpkg -l
[00:54] <SubCool> Cant PC write to HFS+
[00:54] <Emanon> SubCool: not natively supported with windows
[00:54] <randomOfAmber> SubCool: ubuntu can, but not journaled HFS+
[00:54] <Emanon> there are utilities but not netive support
[00:54] <gudmund_> but with the newest alsa backports i remember i got another choise in soundpreferences, under output: "headphone output"
[00:54] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: are the headphones working for sure? also check other sound settings
[00:54] <SubCool> ok- thanks guys, sorry. i already lowered my standards to fat32, couldnt help but try.
[00:55] <SubCool> Wooohoo to media server!!!
[00:55] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: with the newest alsa backports try these solutions again
[00:55] <SubCool> bbl
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> jrib: i pm you
[00:55] <gudmund_> aeon-ltd_: yea the headphones are working, and iwe tried different ones
[00:55] <jrib> BitEncrypt: use the channel
[00:55] <gudmund_> okay, then ill be back in about 3 minutes
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> its a d-link driver
[00:55] <BitEncrypt> for ethernet
[00:55] <rbastic> random asus note: i've found asus-mode3 to work on my asus g50v laptop for alsa-base.conf
[00:56] <rbastic> that includes internal mic support with Skype 2.1 beta
[00:56] <jrib> BitEncrypt: are you sure it doesn't just work already?
[00:56] <SubCool> interesting- gparted wont make a ntfs partition. Does it have to be Primary? - sorry about the stupid questions, kinda a data dump after each time i use it.
[00:56] <aeon-ltd> gudmund_: ok hope it works, i might be gone so ask in general, and tell people what you've tried already
[00:56] <Emanon> SubCool: download ntfsprogs
[00:56] <BitEncrypt> i know.....
[00:56] <Emanon> to let gparted make them
[00:56] <Emanon> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[00:56] <randomOfAmber> how can I get a .deb (for a package) and all it's dependencies into a folder? I don't know what it's dependencies are
[00:56] <Emanon> or is it ntfsutils?
[00:56] <gudmund_> okey, thanx :)
[00:57] <JLaverne> i hope this is the right channel to ask this. Since broadcom released some of its drivers for linux, will they be included in the 10.10 release?
[00:57] <BitEncrypt> jrib: i know
[00:57] <ohshaith55> turns out the first time it failed to burn the disc...
[00:57] <Emanon> nope i was right the first time ntfsprogs
[00:57] <rbastic> ohshaith55, try another one ! ;-)
[00:57] <ohshaith55> then it said the disc was writable so i popped another in and i'm gonna try it now
[00:58] <BitEncrypt> jrib: if you can assist, i would be grateful
[00:58] <ohshaith55> should i check verify?
[00:58] <SubCool> Emanon, i guess i should install via the DVD from now on.
[00:58] <rbastic> randomOfAmber - it's kind of a generic question, do you have a specific package in mind?
[00:58] <ohshaith55> ello? should i set it to verify disk after burning?
[00:59] <jrib> BitEncrypt: not right now, no.  But it seems strange that it wouldn't work.  Anyway if you're sure you need to compile it, read both ubottu's link ndathe documentation for the driver
[00:59] <Emanon> Probably not JLaverne was too recent maybe 11.04
[00:59] <BitEncrypt> jrib: ok
[00:59] <Emanon> sure ohshaith55
[00:59] <randomOfAmber> rbastic: I want to get linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic for lucid, but then I might need more to install my driver on a server install
[00:59] <ohshaith55> ok
[01:00] <ohshaith55> hopefully it works. my computer is a bucket of bolts
[01:00] <rbastic> eek -- my only experience so far has been with desktop 64-bit edition (10.04) ... frankly everything works and is quite impressive :D
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> ohshaith55: boot to the CD. When yu see the stickman, press space and run CD verifier there
[01:01] <ohshaith55> lol ok stickman. got it
[01:01] <randomOfAmber> i see, I'm running it on an old IBM, and got some drivers from intel's site for the wired/wireless (surprised it didn't have them already), so now I have to install them
[01:01] <ohshaith55> phone is now booted up so i can get on the mobile clietn
[01:02] <ohshaith55> then i can boot into ubuntu
[01:02] <ohshaith55> how do you pronounce that, btw?
[01:02] <ohshaith55> oo bun too?
[01:02] <ohshaith55> uh bun too?
[01:02] <kasansweat> hmm, I go oo boon too
[01:03] <pfifo> maah gin ooh boon too
[01:03] <Jordan_U> ohshaith55: You can hear Nelson Mandela say it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQ4WiDsEBQ
[01:03] <JLaverne> Emanon, oh well. im glad they released them at least.
[01:03] <Emanon> yea no kidding right JLaverne
[01:03] <ohshaith55> oo boon too
[01:03] <ohshaith55> ftw
[01:04] <JLaverne> Emanon, i switched to ubuntu on a laptop with a broadcom card, with no linux experience. talk about a nightmare.
[01:04] <Emanon> well the hardware driver finder worked fine for me on my dads laptop but yea its a pain
[01:05] <JLaverne> the certain card i had, the hardware finder installs a driver that doesnt work at all
[01:05] <JLaverne> and you have to blacklist the driver before you can install the correct one from source code
[01:06] <afeijo> hey guys !!!
[01:06] <afeijo> me again
[01:06] <regeya> reetings!
[01:06] <afeijo> I am recreating my usb with live ubuntu
[01:06] <Emanon> !hi | regeya
[01:07] <rbastic> what's the nature of the blacklisting process? i'm not familiar with what this is/why it's necessary, i've seen the files in modprobe though
[01:07] <JLaverne> rbastic, it was something with the way it loads the drivers.
[01:07] <regeya> My apologies, Eamon.  I had said that in response to afeijo, who for whatever reason didn't receive the same treatment.
[01:07] <ohshaith55> this is not working with the dvd...
[01:08] <JLaverne> i think the two drivers installed for the same card make problems
[01:08] <regeya> does my nickname annoy people, or something?  It seems often that people can be total weirdos in this channel, and if I have one errant comment, a ton of bricks comes down on my head
[01:08] <afeijo> but the app that create the initializable disk, have the extra space disabled!?!? :(
[01:08] <afeijo> sorry if I translated it wrong, my dist is in my lang
[01:08] <regeya> that's strange afeijo.  iirc there's an option to specify how much free space you can have for read/write
[01:09] <BitEncrypt> Jlaverne: are you jrib?
[01:09] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, no lol. why?
[01:09] <afeijo> regeya, aye! but it is disabled, I formated the drive, restarted the app, and its still disabled
[01:09] <gudmund> hi i got a problem with my sound
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: would you be willing to help install a driver
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: source code
[01:10] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, sure. which one
[01:10] <regeya> oy vey.
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: d-link ethernet
[01:10] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, do you already have the source files downloaded?
[01:10] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes
[01:11] <ohshaith55> nvm. i'll be back tomorrow.
[01:11]  * regeya waits for someoen to direct him to #ubuntu-yi
[01:11] <gudmund> i got an Asus Eee 1001px with ubuntu 10.04, first everything worked, but when i plugged headset there was no sound...
[01:11] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, can i have a link to the download? then i can tell you exactly what to do
[01:12] <Emanon> oh hehe regeya i have irc in the background (im doing many things) so i miss things sometimes
[01:12] <rbastic> What are peoples overall experiences with the proprietary Nvidia drivers? (particularly those available for Linux 64-bit from nvidia.com)
[01:12] <rbastic> I hate to do it, but I want compiz-fusion to run well... Can't do it without them.
[01:12] <Emanon> i've been happy with them rbastic
[01:12] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: i will PM you
[01:12] <JLaverne> please post the link here
[01:12] <Emanon> and they ARE proprietary but at least nvidia provides them for us
[01:13] <pksadiq> I  use Nvidia and ubuntu 64bit
[01:13] <Emanon> and i do wish theyd make them open but it is their right not to
[01:13] <rbastic> So, do you install the driver from the site or do you use a packaged one?
[01:13] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, please talk on the channel
[01:13] <rbastic> i.e. via Synaptic or via nvidia.com
[01:13] <aguitel> me too
[01:13] <Emanon> i use the hardware driver finder most times but sometimes i grab the latest from their site
[01:13] <pksadiq> it's nice to see compiz-fusion-extra
[01:14] <jrgp> I run lucid and every once in a blue moon my up arrow key stops working. The only way of fixing it is to restart. I really don't feel like restarting right now. What can I try?
[01:14] <bribroder> they're definitely better supported than ati cards
[01:14] <rbastic> restart x ? :p
[01:14] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their is no download link...but i do have instructions. can i pm them to you
[01:14] <rbastic> ctrl-alt-backspace maybe
[01:15] <duffydack> !dontzap | rbastic
[01:15] <joshritger> what is the app that is used to manage users in gnome, I did an install from the net install disk and don't have the user editor
[01:15] <rbastic> Ooooh, I see.
[01:15] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i would prefer to stay on the channel. is there an install text file, or a readme file included with the source code?
[01:15] <cwryuu> Hmmm, there's not a vmware image of 10.4 desktop floating around somewhere is there?
[01:15] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes
[01:15] <bribroder> joshritger, i think you want gdm
[01:15] <jrgp> rbastic: yeah it probably is an X issue since the key works on the virtual consoles
[01:15] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, open the install one
[01:15] <gudmund> does anyone with linux skills got some time? i got a netbook sound problem :/
[01:15] <rbastic> that's incredibly strange
[01:16] <jrgp> gudmund: what's up?
[01:16] <joshritger> bribroder: I have gdm, I am talking about the app used to edit users, not log on and off
[01:16] <duffydack> cwryuu, probably, but would you trust it?  download the iso, and install yourself.
[01:16] <jrgp> rbastic: yes well I wonder if it has anything to do with vnc. I connected to my desktop via x11vnc a few hours ago
[01:16] <pksadiq> Before installing nvidia drivers you need to backlist some installed drivers, Google for  more details
[01:16] <gudmund> first the sound seemed good, but when i plugged headset the sound dissapeared
[01:16] <victorh> Hi! Two days ago there was a guy here who said that ubuntu 8.04 has a bug when using "sudo -k echo "password" | ...". But I don't remember the command to use. I wanna try it here.
[01:16] <gudmund> so i installed new alsa drivers like described here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules
[01:17] <rbastic> jrgp, maybe
[01:17] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their "rhine"
[01:17] <bribroder> joshritger, it's users-admin
[01:17] <joshritger> thanks
[01:17] <gudmund> now the headset work, but not the mic anymore
[01:17] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, im not following you... are you familiar with terminal?
[01:18] <BitEncrypt> no
[01:18] <jrgp> rbastic: I'm kind of not inclined to restart X since I've got some vm's running under virtualbox that are acting as servers. Can I make them go to the background or somehow not depend on X running?
[01:18] <maco> victorh: it was:   sudo -k && echo "fakepassword" | sudo -p "" -S bash -c 'whoami > output' > /dev/null && cat output
[01:18] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: no
[01:18] <cwryuu> duffydack: the one's I see on rapidshare probably not. Was hoping to avoid having to do another ISO install (the 10th in the last 7 days) but oh well :/
[01:18] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, move the whole source folder to your desktop
[01:18] <victorh> thank you, maco
[01:18] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, just drag and drop
[01:18] <maco> victorh: they said itd say "root" but i dont see that happening...though i probably need to actually use sudo before i can sudo -k so lets see...
[01:19] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: it is in a folder on my DT
[01:19] <joshritger> bribroder: do you know if that is part of a package, I get nothing in synaptic
[01:19] <maco> victorh: mm nope still doesnt. it just tells me incorrect password three times
[01:19] <victorh> maco: it's true
[01:19] <victorh> maco: "root
[01:19] <victorh> "
[01:19] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, what is the name of the folder
[01:19] <Tuplario> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows how to get automatic spellchecking for all X apps?
[01:19] <duffydack> cwryuu, surely, having the ISO is quicker to install then downloading already installed from who knows where
[01:19] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: Linux
[01:20] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, when you open that folder what is inside it?
[01:20] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: thats right off of the cd
[01:20] <bribroder> it's part of gnome-system-tools
[01:20] <joshritger> thanks
[01:20] <victorh> maco: I got this message, but when I was on 10.04
[01:20] <bribroder> you'll get a bunch of other stuff with it
[01:21] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: rhine.h
[01:21] <maco> victorh:  im on 10.10 and it tells me "Sorry, try again" 3 times then "sudo: 3 incorrect password attempts"
[01:21] <joshritger> ok
[01:21] <elliot_> I have warcraft 3 running but I can't see it, the music is still going but it is minimised and there is no icon
[01:21] <BitEncrypt> kcompat.h
[01:21] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, what happens if you open that?
[01:21] <victorh> maco: maybe the problem was solved to 10.*
[01:22] <gudmund> jrgp_: you dont know anything for my error?
[01:22] <victorh> maco: or to > 8.04
[01:22] <jrgp> gudmund: sorry no idea
[01:22] <gudmund> okey
[01:22] <jrgp> gudmund: have you looked through the volume control settings? at the switches?
[01:22] <cwryuu> duffydack: true true, I'll probably just do an install once, shutdown the vm, then copy it for future use
[01:23] <gudmund> yes i have tried all switches...
[01:23] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: it opens gedit, and its source code
[01:23] <jrgp> gudmund: I wish I could help you further but I honestly haven't a clue
[01:23] <gudmund> i removed   linux-backports-modules-alsa-2.6.32-24-generic and  linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[01:23] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, that is strange. there are no other files in the Linux folder?
[01:24] <gudmund> and installed   linux-alsa-driver-modules-2.6.32-24-generic
[01:24] <gudmund> okey
[01:24] <gudmund> thanx anyhow
[01:24] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: their are 13 files in that folder
[01:24] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, is there a file named "MAKE"?
[01:24] <snow_usa> hi
[01:24] <afeijo> what else can I do to enable the extra space to the create initializable disk app?
[01:24] <noisewaterphd> hey, I really, really, want something like Xshell for Ubuntu: http://www.netsarang.com/products/xsh_detail.html what are the options?
[01:24] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: yes "makefile"
[01:24] <JLaverne> perfect
[01:24] <snow_usa> is it possible to apt-get install somepackage without root permission ? ( I may want to install it in my home dir)
[01:25] <maco> victorh: i'll spin up an 8.04 vm when i get home tonight and have a look
[01:25] <possomcrast> hey guys just dual booted 10.4 for the first time
[01:25] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, open terminal and type "cd ~/Desktop/Linux" without the quotes
[01:25] <maco> victorh: since 8.04 is still supported on servers
[01:25] <noisewaterphd> snow-usa: I believe apt itself requires elevated permissions
[01:25] <maco> victorh: ok its still supported on desktop too, just not much longer
[01:26] <gionnico> i installed UNR 10.04 in my aspire one a100 and updated the kernel (0-day update after fresh install). well I LOST THE BOOTSPLASH! Now weird text appears and it's not even aligned. every line has a different position in the screen
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> come on, there has to be a great terminal manager for linux
[01:26] <gionnico> why and how can I restore the cute bootsplash?
[01:26] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:26] <JLaverne> gionnico, same problem here, ive just been ignoring it
[01:26] <maco> gionnico: the misalignedness is normal
[01:26] <gionnico> maco: but it's ugly: why did it work after fresh install?
[01:26] <maco> gionnico: check that plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo is installed?
[01:27] <gionnico> is it a kernel issue? maco the write appears for few seconds
[01:27] <noisewaterphd> even something like putty connection manager would be better than nothing
[01:27] <gionnico> then it's screwed up by text.. [ok] stuff
[01:27] <joshritger> what group does a user have to be part of to allow shutting down, I currently have to log off then shutdown from gdm
[01:27] <gionnico> *the write I mean the logo
[01:27] <maco> gionnico: no, plymouth not displaying shouldnt be related to the kernel in any way
[01:27] <victorh> maco: yes. I will talk with alexander later to tell him it worked in my ubuntu
[01:27] <maco> victorh: which version are you on?
[01:27] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, ready for the next step?
[01:28] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ye
[01:28] <fugdnscerd> question about system cloning... Wondering if its possible to use a boot image from an amd 32 bit machine on an intel 32 bit machine
[01:28] <gionnico> JLaverne: do you have plymouth installed?
[01:28] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, now type "sudo make" without the quotes
[01:28] <victorh> maco: i'm on 8.04
[01:28] <maco> victorh: k
[01:28] <JLaverne> gionnico, yes, latest version
[01:28] <gionnico> JLaverne: i hope at least it will be fixed soon
[01:29] <gionnico> i think they care more when they release kernel for a media
[01:29] <victorh> maco: sorry, I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 - Intrepid Ibex
[01:29] <maco> gionnico, JLaverne:  when you boot, hold down shift to get to the grub menu. hit 'e' to edit the boot line. see if "quiet splash" is in there. if its not, add it to the end of the long vmlinuz line
[01:29] <gionnico> or anyways if it isn't kernel, any package in general
[01:29] <JLaverne> gionnico, but plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo was not installed, as maco suggested
[01:29] <rbastic> Hello, back again. How do I kill X to run the Nvidia installer script?
[01:30] <maco> victorh: 8.10's not supported anymore ;-) but 8.04 is so i'll talk to security team folks
[01:30] <JLaverne> maco, thank you, ill try that after i finish helping on here
[01:30] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:30] <maco> JLaverne: if you didnt have that package installed, then the vmlinuz line wont matter
[01:30] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, now type "sudo make install" without the quotes
[01:30] <JLaverne> maco, ok. so installing it should fix it?
[01:31] <victorh> maco: i didn't know that :D let me try this command on my server
[01:31] <maco> JLaverne: both that package and the instructions to make use of it need to be there.  the line *shouldnt* have changed at random, so having that package not be installed is likely the issue
[01:31] <victorh> maco: how do i check the version in terminal?
[01:31] <Laban> Man.... my machine just hates Nvidias own drivers.
[01:31] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: ok
[01:31] <maco> victorh: lsb_relese -a
[01:31] <maco> victorh: er.... lsb_release -a
[01:31] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, that should be it. does it work now?
[01:31] <joshritger> I need help with user groups, which group does a user have to be in, in order to shut down the machine? I have to log out first then hit shutdown
[01:32] <maco> joshritger: admin, i think
[01:32] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: :1695: error: ‘CHECKSUM_HW’ undeclared (first use in this function)
[01:32] <joshritger> hmm, I thought I was in that one, will check
[01:32] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne plus manu more
[01:32] <gionnico> joshritger: you can just cat /etc/group | grep 'main user'
[01:33] <victorh> maco: Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[01:33] <gionnico> this will tell you what groups belong to the 1st user you created
[01:33] <victorh> maco: Sorry, try again.
[01:33] <victorh> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[01:33] <gionnico> and will give you a hint on what group you want for other users
[01:33] <Tempus_Fugit> ok I need some help implementing some of these ideas on this page for security http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[01:33] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, gahh. what is the model of dlink card you have?
[01:33] <c0nfused> i need help with my boot up of ubuntu i need to keep the cd for it to boot up even tho i have it installed it says Warning cannot boot up because a error in syntax cant cd to imit.d
[01:33] <victorh> maco: it did not work
[01:33] <maco> victorh: sounds like it was a bug in 8.04 two years ago but not anymore then
[01:34] <joshritger> gionnico: the user I am trying to fix is the first/only user, the install was a minimal install from the minimal disk, I started with xfce then added gnome
[01:34] <dclake> I need help I'm running maverick beta and all my windows open maximixed
[01:34] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: DFE-530TX+
[01:34] <joshritger> It didn't have the user settings changer or anything
[01:34] <victorh> maco: yeah, sounds true
[01:34] <JLaverne> maco, thank you. it doesnt really bother me, but if it is that easy to fix it then great lol
[01:34] <joshritger> I got that now, but still can't shut down from inside gnome
[01:34] <gionnico> i have another trouble: I updated 8.04->10.04. i did fresh install but just keep /home partition. well i have a canon eos 350D rebel XT digital reflex camera but gphoto (PTP) doesn't work ANYMORE
[01:35] <Tempus_Fugit> alot of things on their need to be compiled and I would like to learn but havent had to do that yet
[01:35] <gionnico> if i plug the camera i get error and if i unplug it well the camera remains screwed up and ANY COMPUTER can read it using PTP. i have to remove battery..
[01:35] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: don't use gphoto, but did you upgrade it?
[01:35] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: as i said i did fresh install. i'm sure in 2 years gphoto was updated
[01:36] <ssfdre38> how can i un-install vsftpd on a ubuntu server?
[01:36] <gionnico> but i still have the old config files
[01:36] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i will try to find something compiled for you to install with one click
[01:36] <gionnico> for everything. gnome eog, f-spot gphoto : all my config files
[01:36] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne THX
[01:36] <gionnico> and dont know which could be broken by an updated package
[01:36] <dclake> I also have a problem that in my "tweet box" I cant type anything
[01:36] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: the "permit root login" thing for ssh doesnt really matter on a normal ubuntu install since root has no password... try as much as you want, you cant brute force a non-existent password
[01:36] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: OH, I thought you just updated the OS, I missed the fresh install thing
[01:36] <gionnico> config files should auto-update and new version should cope with old version config files
[01:37] <gionnico> fresh install but i kept /home
[01:37] <gionnico> it was in a separate partition and told to use that during installation
[01:37] <ssfdre38> how can i un-install vsftpd from ubuntu server
[01:37] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: ok so what about the other issues with a firewall and securing during boot
[01:37] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: install the medibuntu repositories and see if that gets your canon functionality back
[01:38] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/84076-d-link-dfe-530tx-netword-card-doesnt-work.html
[01:38] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, read the last post. that may help you a lot more than i can
[01:38] <noisewaterphd> gionnico, I sort of remember needing a few libraries from medibuntu to get my XTI working in lucid
[01:39] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: for booting i'd say if they have physical access you're screwed anyway. they can boot from a live cd to get root, pull your hard drive, pop the cmos battery to reset the bios password if you use one of those to lock it... there is no security if there's physical access
[01:39] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: cuz there is def something going on with my system that I am trying to figure out for example I cant go to certain sites.....for example facebook times oout everytime i try
[01:39] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: I am just shooting in the dark though without a pastebin of your logs
[01:39] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: i'd use traceroute (mtr -nt facebook.com) to debug that
[01:39] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: theres something weird because the same camera works on fresh install UNR 10.04 !!
[01:40] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: and as to the firewall... by default no services listen on any ports. that means its equivalent to DROP all. if you're running a server, you may want to limit ssh to your usual IP range or something like that though
[01:40] <noisewaterphd> gionnico: ah, yes, then pastebin as verbose of a log as you can get then and we'll track it down
[01:40] <looter> hello all.  I am trying to install eclipse 3.5 which is a newer version not in the repos but I am having some trouble.  I have untarred the archive and I see the eclipse executable but everytime I try to run it from the command prompt I get a message saying eclipse is not installed.  anyone help?
[01:40] <maco> Tempus_Fugit: and now my battery dies
[01:40] <Tempus_Fugit> maco: I am not so much worried about physical access as I am curious if someone has a finger in my system I know it can be done, I am just trying to learn as much about this OS as quickly as possible so that I can at least be defensive in security
[01:41] <gionnico> noisewaterphd: ok i dont have that machine now. i'll be back here then
[01:41] <BitEncrypt> jlaverne: THX
[01:42] <tensorpudding> looter: you probably need to install it
[01:42] <JLaverne> BitEncrypt, i have to leave to fix a business computer. i hope i was of some help. if not, someone else on here will be able to help you
[01:42] <tensorpudding> looter: it's likely that it requires some sort of configuration to work
[01:42] <Tempus_Fugit> I would say to assume that just because not only Ubuntu as well as Linux in general are more secure than most windows systems that does not make them impervious to attack or intrusion
[01:42] <afeijo> what else can I do to enable the extra space to the create initializable disk app?
[01:43] <gionnico> Tempus_Fugit: i can't trust windows. how can i know there's no backdoor? indeed, i'm pretty sure WGA does IS indeed a backdoor and that there are backdoors since vista and XP SP3
[01:43] <looter> tensorpudding:  the tutorial online I am following just says to create a launcher for it point to that executable....what am I missing?
[01:43] <tensorpudding> looter: well, i'm assuming that you have all the java requirements installed
[01:43] <noisewaterphd> looter: here is what I like to do for eclipse: do not install from repos, causes depenency hell if you need plugins. 1. Download the eclipse that you need 2. Create a folder called Apps, or Applications in your Home Folder. chmod -R 777 Apps/. 3. Unzip eclipse and put the eclipse folder in your Apps dir 4. double click the eclipse icon inside the eclipse folder
[01:43] <looter> tensorpudding: correct
[01:44] <noisewaterphd> looter: also make sure you are running Sun Java, not OpenJDK
[01:44] <looter> tensorpudding: i believe its Sun Java anyway to confirm for sure?
[01:45] <noisewaterphd> looter: from command line: java -version
[01:45] <looter> tensorpudding: java version "1.6.0_20"
[01:45] <looter> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_20-b02)
[01:45] <looter> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 16.3-b01, mixed mode)
[01:45] <tensorpudding> the eclipse from the repositories works fine with openjdk
[01:45] <Tempus_Fugit> gionnico: yeah well I love linux specifically Ubuntu and telling everyone I know they should at least try it out......However if I intend on being a courteous tour guide I should at least know what I am talking about.....so I digress back to having to learn a lot one time which I am enjoying tremendously Im actually having to use my brain again
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> looter: ya that is sun
[01:46] <hackel> Does the shitty binary Nvidia driver just have huge memory leaks or does Ubuntu's Xorg have a problem?  After just 3 days uptime my Xorg is using 1.6G resident memory...really pissing me off.
[01:46] <looter> tensorpudding: i am trying to install Android SDK and it recommends 3.4 or greater
[01:46] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: many eclipse plugins DO NOT work with openjdk
[01:46] <tensorpudding> So don't use those plugins?
[01:47] <looter> tensorpudding: thx for your help I am gonna go give it a whirl
[01:47] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: or if you need them, just use Sun Java until OpenJDK can get its crap together
[01:47] <tensorpudding> I don't see what this has to do with looter's error
[01:47] <gionnico> hackel: do you use compiz?
[01:49] <tensorpudding> Anyway, isn't the version of Eclipse in lucid 3.5?
[01:49] <tensorpudding> That's what I have installed.
[01:49] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: nothing, he was asking how to make his DOWNLOADED eclipse distro work properly
[01:49] <looter> tensorpudding: same thing.  I am not getting anything when I click on it from nautilus and am getting the same message when I run from command line.  Might I have to make the eclipse file executable somehow?
[01:50] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: the eclipse from the repos works fine, and works fine on openJDK
[01:50] <tensorpudding> looter: it should be executable already
[01:50] <hackel> gionnico, yes, but I don't remember it ever being this bad before...
[01:50] <looter> tensorpudding: thats what I was thinking but it is behaving like it isn't.  I am really close here has to be something really minor I am missing
[01:50] <victorh> Hi, I was thinking in compile linux kernel to enable just the modules I use. How can I surely know which modules I'm using? Using "lsmod" command is enough?
[01:50] <tensorpudding> looter: I can tell you that I have the Android SDK working fine on the Eclipse from the repos, which is 3.5.2
[01:51] <Tempus_Fugit> is anyone running 10.10
[01:51] <looter> hmm
[01:51] <tensorpudding> !ubuntu+1 | Tempus_Fugit
[01:51] <looter> tensorpudding: well shit then
[01:51] <gionnico> hackel: yeah no if ram size increases when you do nothing or after you close something there's a leak. i can't help further
[01:51] <Tempus_Fugit> I got a partial update like 4 days ago and it never finished
[01:51] <gionnico> bye
[01:51] <afeijo> how can I create an usb bootable disk?
[01:51] <twymer> afeijo: unetbootin
[01:51] <tensorpudding> afeijo: unetbootin is one way
[01:52] <noisewaterphd> looter, tensorpudding, I'm not running eclipse from repos, but can also confirm that Android SDK works fine here as well
[01:52] <Tempus_Fugit> ty ubottu
[01:52] <afeijo> does that unetbootin create extra space in the usb so I can install my apps?
[01:52] <BitEncrypt> permission denied when making a temp folder....why?
[01:52] <BitEncrypt> sudo mkdir /temp
[01:53] <noisewaterphd> BitEncrypt: sudo
[01:53] <noisewaterphd> so nobody has a good recommendation on a terminal session manager for Ubuntu?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> terminal session manager?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> like tmux?
[01:54] <tensorpudding> or do you mean something else
[01:55] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: i like byobu/screen myself
[01:55] <noisewaterphd> tensorpudding: ya, like tmux, but I just don't like it much
[01:55] <SubCool> if i use gparted to resize a partition, will it format it or just resize it and move the data?
[01:55] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: try byobu/screen then
[01:55] <looter> noisewaterphd: can you verify what version of eclipse you are in fact running?
[01:55] <MrPPS> SubCool: generally, just resize and move
[01:56] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: I was just about to start playing with screen/byobu
[01:56] <MrPPS> though backup first
[01:56] <SubCool> awesome, do i dont have to like defrag or something to make sure it is ok..
[01:56] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: i use it on all my systems, and find it much nicer and more flexible than the others
[01:56] <SubCool> ya, its backed up- just takes 4 hours to backup.. so just making sure
[01:56] <MrPPS> SubCool: i've never needed to defrag it before resizing
[01:56] <MrPPS> though resizing sometimes can take a long time
[01:56] <MrPPS> to be prepared to wait
[01:56] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: true transparancy?
[01:56] <possomcrast> UBUNTU IS SO BEAUTIFUL
[01:56] <afeijo> ubuntu came with an app that create usb boot device, but mine isnt enabling the field to pick extra disk space :(
[01:56] <SubCool> Ok thanks.
[01:57] <MrPPS> noisewaterphd: transparency works in the gnome-terminal with compiz, etc.
[01:57] <MrPPS> and in the kde konsole
[01:57] <noisewaterphd> MrPPS: sweet
[01:58] <rweeks> please ignore this message... just having some trouble with my CLI irc client...
[01:59] <smc> I'm trying to setup my keyboard switcher in openbox, does anybody know the code for the us-alternate-deadkeys keyboard? Such as the US is just "us", the spanish is just "es".
[02:00] <bobbytek2> what's the best way to fix fan noises, wd40?
[02:00] <bobbytek2> vegetable oil?
[02:01] <jimlovell777> Can I have two versions of a library (libwxgtk) installed concurrently? A recent update broke a package I need but another package I use requires the newer version of the library.
[02:01] <khelvan> Hello, I'm having problems getting S/PDIF HD audio sent through my NVidia Geforce 240 and out via HDMI in Lucid Lynx. I've been through the community help sound troubleshooting but I still get no sound. Can anyone assist?
[02:01] <makson> how can i set timezone on my VPS so when users connect it will auto adjust to there specific time zone?
[02:01] <Laban> khelvan: Welcome to the club =)
[02:02] <Laban> I resorted to going back to analog audio for now...
[02:02] <noisewaterphd> makson: set your time as GMT
[02:02] <hackel> khelvan, how are you trying to do it?
[02:02] <makson> noisewaterphd: how do i do that? with date command? or do i edit this /usr/share/zoneinfo ?
[02:03] <noisewaterphd> when you set your timezone just choose GMT instead of your timezone, then clients will comvert the GMT to their own zone
[02:03] <rweeks1138> sorry I know this is a little OT but can anybody explain how to register my nick?
[02:03] <Laban> khelvan: But I did get audio through HDMI, but it took a while... As if pulse audio had to adapt itself or something
[02:03] <Jordan_U> !register | rweeks1138
[02:04] <Laban> Continously opening audio files until it played... relly strange.
[02:04] <Aemaeth> is there a way to choose when startup programs will load? say mount my data drive before compiz loads up?
[02:04] <hackel> khelvan, this is how I do it.  I run: "pactl load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,1" (you have to figure out which device is your digital out), then you can freely move streams back and forth between it and other devices.
[02:04] <rweeks1138> thanks
[02:04] <khelvan> hackel - I've tried following all the steps in the alsa sound troubleshooting in the community help section, as well as "Digital Out" in the Alsa wiki
[02:06] <noisewaterphd> khelvan: try medibuntu if you haven't already. it just depends on your hardware
[02:06] <Tempus_Fugit> for those that think I am nuts worried about security might wanna take a look at this http://www.security-database.com/view-all.php?date=All&sev=All&type=Ubuntu
[02:06] <looter> noisewaterphd: can you verify what version of eclipse you are in fact running?
[02:06] <niglop> hi
[02:06] <niglop> there is a video on a page that i want to download, how can i download it
[02:08] <niglop> ??
[02:08] <niglop> 1200 people in the channel and nobody can answer me.. k
[02:08] <Daekdroom> !details | niglop
[02:08] <Daekdroom> What kind of video are you trying to download?
[02:09] <niglop> flash
[02:09] <MrPPS> niglop: assuming you're referring to flash videos, like youtube, search for some firefox plugins
[02:09] <MrPPS> there's thousands of them to do it
[02:09] <niglop> its not youtube tho MrPPS
[02:09] <rottie> I have just loaded ubuntu 10 as duel boot, however the owner want it to default to windows?  it this an easy fix?
[02:09] <Daekdroom> You can also grab them directly from the /tmp/ folder if you manage to find them there.
[02:09] <MrPPS> niglop: same thing applies for many of them
[02:09] <MrPPS> i said like youtube
[02:09] <kpkarl> niglop: try looking in /tmp after the video completly loads
[02:09] <MrPPS> not just youtube ;)
[02:09] <SubCool> how can you tell if your Kubuntu is transfering at USB3 speeds? its not showing me mbit/s
[02:10] <p0rk> well I guess I should try that again.
[02:10] <ratdog>  how can i purge this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[02:10] <victorh> Hi, I was thinking in recompile linux kernel to enable just the modules I use in order to enhance performance. How can I surely know which modules I'm using? Is "lsmod" command enough?
[02:11] <GoodMuppet> who will be upgrading to 10.10 in october
[02:11] <noisewaterphd> looter: helios, build 20100617-1415
[02:11] <rbastic> aren't there known problems with programs on Windows overwriting the MBR and trashing GRUB or something?
[02:11] <Tempus_Fugit> GoodMuppet: when I know its stable I will upgrade
[02:11] <khelvan> laban, hackel, noisewaterphd - Thank you, I am using the on-board sound on an ASUS P5W PH Deluxe (ALC882 Digital is card 0 device 1), passing through HDMI out of my Nvidia Geforce 240.
[02:11] <rbastic> not trying to flame, just responding to rottie's mention of dual-booting ubuntu
[02:11] <matthewl> Hi. Anyone run into a situation where a drive fails, but is still in fstab and the machine freezes trying to mount the drive still in fstab? Is there a trick to dropping to a single user shell prompt from there?
[02:11] <GoodMuppet> Its not very stable at the min
[02:12] <khelvan> hackel, once I get that working, what would the next step be? I am not familiar with working with audio/video streams.
[02:12] <Tempus_Fugit> rbastic:  I have a dual boot system with vista but I never use vista anymore
[02:12] <Laban> Great... HD video looks better with Nouveau driver than Nvidia's driver...
[02:12] <Laban> Too bad 3D doesn't.
[02:12] <GoodMuppet> how
[02:13] <Tempus_Fugit> As soon as I have an external drive to store all my data gonna re-format/partition my drive and go completely ubuntu
[02:13] <Zelfje> data is overrated ;)
[02:13] <will> Ubuntu LiveUSB -- is there any way to mount the USB drive that the LiveUSB is installed on?
[02:13] <khelvan> rbastic - If you install Windows after Ubuntu it will overwrite the boot system, but you can just run update-grub (with Grub2 at least) and it should set itself up, including the Windows partition.
[02:13] <p0rk> ##security
[02:14] <p0rk> #security
[02:14] <hackel> khelvan, well that would add it as a PulseAudio device, then you can run pavucontrol to switch audio between devices.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> rbastic: Yes, and it's usually part of the software's DRM.
[02:14] <khelvan> rottie - Yes, it is an easy fix. Start here: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntuforums.org%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D1195275&ei=f8yOTJW9IIy8sAPb_NydCw&usg=AFQjCNHsPsdiLiSfK_ARNS8auvRfO0S4KQ
[02:15] <hackel> khelvan, I guess you have to install the pavucontrol package for that.  Of course, this is assuming that your mixer settings are correct.
[02:15] <Jordan_U> khelvan: update-grub just re-writes /boot/grub/grub.cfg. You need grub-install to actually restore grub after installing windows.
[02:15] <GoodMuppet> anyone here using elegant gnome
[02:15] <khelvan> Jordan_U - ok, thanks....rbastic listen to him, he knows better than I ;)
[02:15] <will> LiveUSB -- is there any way to mount the USB drive that the LiveUSB is installed on?
[02:16] <GoodMuppet> it should automatically mount
[02:16] <rbastic> Nods... I had just read some forum postings that confirmed it
[02:16] <will> i want to use the space not taken up by the live usb install (it's on a 4GB usb drive).
[02:16] <desnaike> GoodMuppet I am hope I can help
[02:18] <rbastic> Well... Now my nvidia drivers are working, compiz-fusion is **flying**, and it's time to reboot to double-check that everything is kosher.
[02:18] <Jordan_U> will: Yes, you can mount it just like any other partition.
[02:18] <will> OK they were right -- it is mounted, but it's mounted on /cdrom, and I can't write to it.
[02:19] <Jordan_U> will: What program did you use to create the Live USB, and are you booted into the Live USB right now?
[02:19] <afeijo> unetbootin aint good
[02:19] <khelvan> hackel - ok thanks, I successfully used pactl to add the device, I guess now my only question is what I should be using for the Profile for HD Audio Controller (Digital Stereo HDMI Out I assume? I can't send 5.1 out?) and Internal Audio (No idea here...)
[02:20] <will> Jordan_U -- I forgot what it's called.  Ran if from inside Ubuntu ("liveusb-create" maybe).  And yes i'm booted in a VM.
[02:21] <Jordan_U> will: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo blkid"?
[02:22] <ratdog>  how can i purge this ppa http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[02:22] <ratdog> nm
[02:23] <trojan_spike> waoh,, VMbox's seemless is really impressive
[02:24] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it is
[02:25] <will> Jordan_U:  fdisk -l and blkid   http://pastebin.ca/1940176
[02:25] <ai9371> what is ubuntu desktop edition?
[02:25] <ai9371> why not iubuntu 9.2
[02:25] <ai9371> or ubuntu 10.2
[02:25] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it creates an uncomfortable sense of potential security issues but otherwise it's cool, yes.
[02:26] <xangua> ai9371: ubuntu 10.04, 10 is the year, 04 the month it was released
[02:26] <will> Jordan_U:   I should mention that there is a virtual HD in the VM that has Ubuntu on it, but I am booted from the LiveUSB.
[02:26] <ratdog> how can i close all synaptics with terminal
[02:27] <trojan_spike> i dont see any security issues with it.. none that it would cause or can take advantage of..
[02:27] <sedulous> ai9371: “Ubuntu Desktop Edition” is what many people just call “Ubuntu”
[02:27] <afeijo> I formated my usb drive with 4gb ext4, will bootable usb use the whole space?
[02:28] <ai9371> what about ubuntu for windows
[02:28] <trojan_spike> wubi ai9371
[02:28] <will> Jordan_U: I should mention that there is a virtual HD in the VM that has Ubuntu on it, but I am booted from the LiveUSB.
[02:28] <Jordan_U> will: Try running "sudo mount -o remount,rw /cdrom/"
[02:28] <Tempus_Fugit> ai9371: wubi
[02:28] <ratdog> how can i close all synaptics with terminal
[02:28] <ai9371> yah will wubi run ruby on rails
[02:28] <ai9371> gems
[02:28] <sedulous> trojan_spike: it depends on how well the integration is implemented. it obviously adds more bridges between the host and the guest than a plain VM that just display an image inside a window, without clipboard or mouse pointer sharing. of course that's absolutely not an issue as long as you're not dealing with hazardous, evil guests :)
[02:29] <ratdog> :(
[02:29] <Aemaeth> any way to mount my data drive before compiz and my torrents start up, since both need my data drive?
[02:29] <trojan_spike> :) stayin in control sedulous ..
[02:29] <khelvan> ai9371, "Desktop Edition" just means that it has the Gnome window manager, unlike "Server Edition" where you have no graphical user interface.
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ai9371: Yes, with only a few notable exceptions (like hybernation) anything you can do with a normal Ubuntu install you can also do with a wubi install.
[02:30] <mac9416> ratdog, sudo killall synaptic
[02:30] <will> Jordan_U:  WOO HOO!  Thanks a lot, friend.  :)
[02:30] <mac9416> ratdog, I believe.
[02:30] <ratdog> ty
[02:30] <Jordan_U> will: You're welcome :)
[02:30] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, ai9371 the harddrive  space is limited in wubi, isn't it?
[02:30] <BlkMonkey> exit
[02:31] <trojan_spike> WUBI cant read your windows folders etc,, read/write is slower too
[02:31] <Jordan_U> trojan_spike: Wubi can read and write to windows' files just fine.
[02:31] <Aemaeth> why is read/write slower?
[02:32] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, he's right though, you can't see the windows files from the os it's installed in
[02:32] <Aemaeth> unless there is a fix or mount point you can use
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: You choose how large you want wubi.disk to be when you install. It's possible to make it larger after the fact but it's unfortunately much more technical than it should be.
[02:32] <trojan_spike> Jordan_U, last i used it , it couldnt access windows..
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: trojan_spike: The windows partiton is accessable via /host IIRC.
[02:33] <Aemaeth> external harddrive it can read windows fine (ntfs/fat)
[02:33] <Aemaeth> iirc?
[02:33] <trojan_spike> news to me..
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Aemaeth: If I Recall Correctly.
[02:33] <Jordan_U> trojan_spike: It's always been able to. If it couldn't then it wouldn't be able to write to the wubi.disk (which is a file on the Windows partition).
[02:33] <chowder> Hi, I'm running Xubuntu and my headset isn't working. I plug in the mic and headphone plugs but neither work.
[02:34] <Aemaeth> Jordan_U, at any rate, it's different than dual-booting, which by default had a link for the windows partition
[02:34] <trojan_spike> k
[02:34] <chowder> Anyone have any ideas what the cause of this could be?
[02:35] <Aemaeth> chowder, you played with sound prefs?
[02:35] <trojan_spike> chowder, of what?
[02:35] <chowder> trojan_spike: what do you mean of what?
[02:35] <Aemaeth> chowder, sound prefs > output, dropdown menu for headphones
[02:35] <chowder> Aemaeth: I haven't touched the sound preferences
[02:35] <Jordan_U> chowder: Any chance you have more than one sound card? It's more common than you'd expect in desktops.
[02:35] <ai9371> chowder maybe your card went bad
[02:35] <trojan_spike> dont matter ,, didnt see ur prev post
[02:36] <chowder> Jordan_U: I don't
[02:36] <ai9371> I have had sound car go bad
[02:36] <ai9371> mic port
[02:36] <chowder> its a laptop
[02:36] <ai9371> my mic port went bad
[02:36] <chowder> ai9371: its brand new. It worked on arch. My sound card is fine
[02:36] <ai9371> when did it stop working
[02:36] <Aemaeth> chowder, if it's usb then it will also be there
[02:36] <chowder> Aemaeth: its not USB
[02:36] <Aemaeth> did it ever work?
[02:36] <chowder> Aemaeth: yes. It worked fine on archlinux
[02:36] <teegor> Hello hello. I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, trying to associate a program (google voice's plugin) to interact specifically with a USB headset and not play sound over the speakers. I have pavucontrol installed, and it'll let me associate it once, but then when I go to use it again it defaults to the speakers again. Any tips for making it a permanent link?
[02:37] <Aemaeth> why are three people helping, but i can't get a bootup question answered?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !patience | Aemaeth
[02:37] <chowder> Aemaeth: and its not USB. the headset is just a regular headset
[02:37] <trojan_spike> Aemaeth, ? whats your boot up question?
[02:37] <teegor> (Also, chowder have you tried going in to alsactl on the terminal and making sure everything is turned up?)
[02:37] <soreau> Aemaeth: the 'helpers' here are volunteers and do not know everything.
[02:37] <chowder> teegor: you mean alsamixer?
[02:37] <soreau> Aemaeth: Restate your question and we will try to help
[02:37] <csmith1994> OK guys I have a problem. I am taking a beginner programming course at school and I require the use of processing (processing.org). However, on my netbook running 10.04, when I try to execute a simple program that simply creates a 640*480 and changes the background to red, my computer shuts down and reboots
[02:37] <tizzo> hey, I'm trying to install a tomcat app and the installation instructs me to add some files to 'tomcat_home', does anyone know where apt puts that on ubuntu by default?
[02:37] <soreau> ! ask | Aemaeth
[02:38] <teegor> (that, sorry. :P)
[02:38] <csmith1994> Assistance
[02:38] <Aemaeth> trojan_spike, i have a problem when i add a mount command into startup, i need it to be before other programs
[02:38] <sedulous> Aemaeth: I assume you tried it with /etc/fstab and it somehow failed
[02:38] <Aemaeth> soreau, it's been a while since i asked, calm down
[02:38] <soreau> ! attitude | Aemaeth
[02:38] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: Sounds like a graphics driver issue. What GPU do you have?
[02:38] <hackel> khelvan, I've never even looked at the Profile settings before, to be honest.  Not sure about them.  I've only got stereo on my TV anyway, so never bothered.
[02:38] <Aemaeth> sedulous, not failed, but if torrents come up before drive is mounted, since it references the mount point it creates the folders, and mounts the real harddrive in a new location
[02:38] <justine777w> gnea: hello..you have a great skill at helping people solve their problems. Would you mind helping me with another problem I am having?
[02:39] <chowder> soreau: don't you think you're abusing the bot? Lay off, man.
[02:39] <csmith1994> Jordan_U I don't know. The problem is, it kind of just flashes off and then back to the command line boot screen
[02:39] <hackel> khelvan, When you are playing audio, under "playback", you can click the button to the right of the application name to switch it between the devices.  For me the labels are meaningless (e.g. my HDMI out is labelled "Internal Audio").
[02:39] <sedulous> Aemaeth: i'm not very familiar with ubuntu but /etc/fstab mounts should always happen before any GUI is started
[02:40] <Aemaeth> sedulous, i'll check that then
[02:40] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA" in a terminal? (if the output is more than two lines please use pastebin instead of pasting it directly into the channel).
[02:40] <csmith1994> Jordan_U: I have a Gateway netbook, I don't know if that helps. Are you familiar with processing or Java, because does the x or y coordinate come first in the window, because my screen is 1024*600, and i made it 640*480
[02:41] <teegor> Repeated, I'm on Ubuntu 10.04, trying to associate a program (google voice's plugin) to interact specifically with a USB headset and not play sound over the internal audio / my speakers. I have pavucontrol installed, and it'll let me associate it once, but then when I go to use it again it defaults to the speakers again. Any tips for making the association permanent, i.e. make it the default output for that program, without making ...
[02:41] <teegor> ... the headset default for everything else?
[02:42] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: I'm familiar with java, but this is universal. Resolutions are always widthXhight (note that coordinates can sometimes differ).
[02:42] <khelvan> hackel - I have three devices under Playback - HDMI, Internal Audio, and Internal Audio 5.1. Assuming I don't have to stop and restart audio altogether to test, none of the settings work.
[02:43] <aconrad> hi, I'm trying to make my DELL 30" screen to display at higher resolution than 1280x800 which is the only one proposed. I have an Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series VGA. I played with xrandr to add more resolutions but then my screen goes blank.
[02:43] <Fahid> Hello Guys
[02:43] <Jordan_U> teegor: Try asking in #pulseaudio.
[02:43] <Aemaeth> khelvan, not sure if this helps but i often have to restart sound hardware for new settings
[02:43] <teegor> Thanks, Jordan_U.
[02:43] <Jordan_U> teegor: You're welcome.
[02:43] <Fahid> can anyone help me a little about compiling a driver
[02:43] <aconrad> is there a way to detect what are the resolutions supported by my video card?
[02:43] <trojan_spike> u get sorted Aemaeth ??
[02:43] <Aemaeth> in fact the sound going out is the only consistent problem i have, oh no, that program uses alsa, crash
[02:44] <Aemaeth> yeah i should be fine
[02:44] <hackel> khelvan, No, you don't have to restart the audio.  But you may have a problem with your mixer settings.  Run alsamixer and toggle the mutes of the various spdiff/iec958 options until you find a working combination. :)
[02:44] <justine777w> Can someone please help me with instructions on how to set up my printer? I have read all the forums and tried to set it up myself, but I must be doing something wrong.
[02:45] <csmith1994> Jordan_U: Output is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Coproration Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[02:45] <hackel> khelvan, that's assuming there isn't some *other* problem, in which case, who knows...  I've been using HDMI out this way on a GeForce 8600M for a couple years though, so hopefully there's a way to make it work.
[02:46] <Fahid> I need some help with compiling of smartcam driver on Ubuntu 10.04
[02:46] <khelvan> hackel - I have everything unmuted - are you suggesting I need to mute some of it?
[02:46] <Aemaeth> my laptop displays webcam upside down, i've learned to live with it
[02:46] <chowder> Fahid: have you ever compiled anything before?
[02:47] <ratdog>  Firefox was just mentioned on the 2cond most popular network commedy sitcom >:)
[02:47] <khelvan> Aemaeth - Have you tried guvcview?
[02:47] <ratdog> >:)
[02:47] <Fahid> no chowder, I am a geek at windows but new to linux, but I followed the instruction from Readme
[02:47] <Aemaeth> khelvan, installing now
[02:48] <Fahid> instructions from readme didn't worked, so I tried googling around and saw some forum posts but nothing helping
[02:48] <chowder> Fahid: did you get an error message?
[02:49] <Fahid> yes, can I start with you in private and discuss in detail as I do it
[02:49] <chowder> Fahid: yes you may
[02:49] <Aemaeth> khelvan, do you know if this will give an output that would work on something like skype?
[02:50] <csmith1994> OK I'll ask again because it's been a while and I don't think anyone can see it anymore. My query is that processing (processing.org) doesn't work on my system. a simple program crashes my system, which simply changes the window size and the background
[02:50] <khelvan> Aemaeth - I am not sure, but you could probably use gstreamer to do that, of course you'd have to write a pretty intensive script
[02:52] <justine777w> anyone knowledgeable of setting up printers not compatible with Ubuntu 9.10, such as the Dell 720 Printer?
[02:52] <Aemaeth> khelvan, webcamstudio is a oddly gui heavy version, which can stream to another webcam output, but it doesn't work with skype :(
[02:52] <khelvan> Aemaeth, see if guvcview can help you, if not you can also try luvcview, which is a non-GUI UVC viewer
[02:53] <Jordan_U> csmith1994: This is somwewhat more a work around than a solution but you might want to run processing within xephyr. Xephyr allows you to start a second X server within a window, so an application will think that it's full screen when it's not and if an application tries to change the resolution it will just change the size of the window.
[02:54] <khelvan> Can anyone tell me how to change an IEC958 channel to "PCM Out" in alsamixer?
[02:54] <hackel> khelvan, Heh, no but on mine there are some toggles and switches,  "S/PDIF Playback Source" which should be set to Digital, for example.  Unfortunately they are all different.
[02:54] <pting> how do i have apt only upgrade php5 related projects if i have maverick builds added to my source.list?
[02:55] <afeijo> damn, I had the wrong iso... netbook not the normal one lol
[02:55] <jimbro> Go To Dell website at http://www.dell.com and find your printer and download the Cups wrapper and lpr driver for your printer
[02:55] <khelvan> hackel - In alsamixer I can't toggle S/PDIF and S/PDIF Default to anything other than Mute. I can't get it to do anything other than sit on [00] or M.
[02:56] <SubCool> im getting ticked- i cant even record simple webcam stuff? it has to crash
[02:56] <SubCool> dumb gf with WINDOWS got her going first
[02:57] <matthewl> Is there a way to drop to a shell to edit fstab during a stuck boot?
[02:57] <hackel> Hmm, I'm not sure then.  It may be a quirk with that graphics/sound card combo.
[02:57] <hackel> khelvan, another weird thing--I sometimes have to cycle my TV through all of the input sources before the audio from my computer will play right.
[02:57] <Aemaeth> khelvan, gstreamer-properties and webcamstudio might work...
[02:59] <justine777w> i keep getting error messages when trying to extract redhat in order to install my printer
[03:00] <thune3> matthewl: i think it depends on where it got stuck. the catch-all recommendation is to boot livecd or other linux and make changes from outside.
[03:01] <virusdesirius> I have a very stupid doubt on ubuntu, could anyone help me?
[03:01] <Tempus_Fugit> Anyone help explain some of this page??? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man8/ufw.8.html#toptoc9
[03:01] <Tempus_Fugit> what is the --dry-run??
[03:01] <hiexpo> justine777w, that ? was confusing when trying to extract redhat   > redhat the distro ?
[03:02] <thune3> Tempus_Fugit: dry run ususally mean to calculate the changes/output and show you without touching existing configuration.
[03:02] <virusdesirius> How can I do this simbol ->   ¬
[03:02] <Tempus_Fugit> thune3:  ok cool ty
[03:02] <mbrigdan> Tempus_Fugit, It actually tells you on that page. It means it will show you the changes
[03:02] <virusdesirius> I used to make it by ctrl+alt+6 on windows
[03:02] <virusdesirius> ubuntu doesnt seem to recognize
[03:02] <justine777w> hiexpo: I have been trying to install my printer for months. I can not do it. I have been trying to follow the directions in the forums and nothing is working. Not sure what redhat means.
[03:02] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, If you're using gnome, you can enter it with its unicode number
[03:03] <khelvan> hackel - One problem I see is that even though my motherboard is showing an IEC958 device in aplay -l, alsamixer doesn't have an IEC958 device listed. So I must be doing something wrong.
[03:03] <Marine_> Marine is gaming.  !gameinfo for more info.
[03:03] <virusdesirius> how can I tell if I'm using gnome? I installed ubuntu 10.04 yesterday
[03:03] <virusdesirius> Guess I am, there is a "about gnome" app
[03:04] <matthewl> thune3: thanks, this is a test machine I'm trying to figure this out on. I'm mainly a BSD guy, and that drops right to a shell for any fstab problems. Right now, I just see: "/dev/sda1: clean", and the number of blocks a files on the partition. It just sits there forever afterwards trying to mount /dev/sdc1, which doesn't currently exist.
[03:04] <Evan0> how would i install the latest and greatest version of php curl?
[03:04] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Unless you installed Kubuntu, you're probably using gnome
[03:04] <virusdesirius> So, what should I do to get an ¬
[03:04] <praxis> puto
[03:04] <praxis> kunta kente
[03:04] <IdleOne> !language | praxis
[03:05] <Malvoro> Hi everybody
[03:05] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, First, you need to find its unicode ID, which isn't normally to hard, except I can't google for your symbol. Do you know what its called?
[03:05] <chowder> virusdesirius: that's the logical operator for "not
[03:05] <chowder> *"not"
[03:05] <chowder> ¬a = not "a"
[03:06] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:06] <chowder> ¬(a and p) = not "a" or not "p"
[03:06] <mbrigdan> chowder, thanks
[03:06] <virusdesirius> whowa
[03:06] <omnydevi> anyone know how to go about uninstalling a nvidia hardware driver and upon reboot getting absolutely 0 video output? :)
[03:06] <virusdesirius> I've spent 13 years beliving it was "the eye" sign
[03:06] <chowder> mbrigdan: no problem
[03:06] <justine777w> hiexpo: do you understand what i am trying to say?
[03:06] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:07] <chowder> virusdesirius: nope, that's a mathematical symbol used in formal logic and discrete mathematics
[03:07] <hiexpo> justine777w, no i do not sorry
[03:07] <virusdesirius> and how do I get its unicode?
[03:07] <justine777w> hiexpo: do you know how to set up the Dell 720 printer on Ubuntu 9.10?
[03:07] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, So, what you need to do, is hold Shift+Ctrl then type "u", followed by "00AC" (Without the quotes, and still holding Shift+Ctrl). Then, let go of Shift+Ctrl and it should type the character.
[03:08] <hiexpo> justine777w, no sorry again i do not
[03:08] <justine777w> does anyone know how to set up a dell 720 printer in Ubuntu 9.10?
[03:08] <chowder> justine777w: why not upgrade to 10.04 first?
[03:08] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, I found its unicode id on http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/search.htm , you can use it to find other characters if you want.
[03:09] <chowder> also, did you check to see that your printer is linux compatible?
[03:09] <aetaric> i asked this in #ubuntu-server, but no one knew if this was possible. I want to boot an Ubuntu cd via PXE, but i don't want to use the netboot iso.
[03:09] <hiexpo> justine777w,  http://www.seanelavelle.com/2008/03/24/installing-a-dell-720-printer-in-ubuntu-linux/
[03:09] <hackel> khelvan, It's not a separate device though.
[03:09] <thune3> matthewl: there should be a way to get the busybox shell to come up, but i can't search it since all the hits are how to NOT get it.
[03:09] <strAlan> how can I verify vino-server is running? I don't see it in ps -ae :(
[03:10] <hackel> khelvan, at least for my HDA Intel...
[03:10] <matthewl> Yeah, this is something that shouldn't be very difficult.
[03:10] <virusdesirius> mbrigdan it didnt worked
[03:10] <aetaric> !repeat | strAlan
[03:10] <khelvan> hackel - I know, but according to the Alsa wiki it should be showing up as a channel for my HDA Intel device in Playback in alsamixer
[03:10] <justine777w> chowder: I am afraid if I upgrade I will lose all my information (documents, music, etc) and I already went through thats once...It was a big hassle and i do not know how to save all the info on the computer and I do not have enough flash drives, etc to save all my info.
[03:11] <Evan0> how would i install the latest and greatest version of php curl?
[03:11] <virusdesirius> When I press 00 it selects everything writen
[03:11] <justine777w> hiexpo: thanks, but I have been using all the forums and keep getting error messages. therefore i need someone who knows how to install the printer to help set by step
[03:11] <chowder> justine777w: I've never lost info to an upgrade. When did you last lose info?
[03:11] <thune3> how can I get the busybox shell to come up, on purpose?
[03:11] <justine777w> chowder: when ubuntu crashed
[03:11] <chowder> justine777w: what release was that?
[03:12] <chowder> thune3: in terminal: busybox
[03:12] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Hmm, it works for me: ¬. Try it in a different program. (Sometimes some programs grab the key, and it won't work. I know open office does this)
[03:12] <SubCool> LADIES AND GENTS!!
[03:12] <justine777w> chowder: 9.10 I think. before 10.04 came out.
[03:12] <SubCool> i would like to THANK the Loving OS of UBUNTu for SCREWING UP MY $EX Life....
[03:12] <trojan_spike> justine777w, do a backup of what you need.. the upgrade would be in your best interest.. 10.10 is the latest release..
[03:12] <SubCool> Let me Play a song- 3 clients later, i can play a song.
[03:12] <thune3> chowder: is there a way to get it before init, in the boot sequence?
[03:13] <SubCool> Let me go on Pandora- and just make something work.
[03:13] <mbrigdan> !ot | SubCool
[03:13] <IdleOne> SubCool: drop the caps please
[03:13] <virusdesirius> mbrigdan it worked on gedit
[03:13] <virusdesirius> thank you
[03:13] <virusdesirius> thanks alot for the help
[03:13] <mbrigdan> virusdesirius, Your welcome.
[03:13] <chowder> SubCool: your sex life was screwed up before you used ubuntu, tard
[03:13] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not know how to do all that. If i do that will the printer automatically work?
[03:13] <IdleOne> chowder: no need for that
[03:13] <SubCool> Konquror, chrome fialed.. finally i got Firefox to work.
[03:13] <prayii> ¬
[03:13] <SubCool> chowder, haha- quite not.
[03:14] <prayii> mbrigdan: i had to let go of ctrl+shift after typing "u" to get it to work
[03:14] <trojan_spike> its possible.. the printer would need drivers to work.. its just a matter of finding one made for ubuntu.. this is usually done by a developer..
[03:14] <mbrigdan> SubCool, Even though I really shouldn't, you've got me interested. How on earth can an OS screw up you sex life?
[03:14] <ToddEDM> can someone help me here, im looking to get wireless working, i have downloaded the broadcom-sta.deb but it wont install , someone please help me...
[03:14] <SubCool> Every normal thing any normal person would like to do ona  computer when they simply turn it on, and isntall it- i cant do after installing it, setting it up.. and working with most of you to make sure it works,(not blaming you) but this is utterly rediculous.
[03:14] <khelvan> hackel - the more I read, the more I believe that my problem is due to the same reason I can't see an IEC958 channel in alsamixer - all the fixes for this problem seem to revolve around changing the settings of that channel in alsamixer.
[03:15] <hackel> khelvan, Really?  Huh, it doesn't do that for me!
[03:15] <chowder> SubCool: idk if anyone can justify using an OS as a scapegoat for not being able to get laid but that's just me
[03:15] <IdleOne> SubCool: if you feel like ranting start a blog otherwise ask a support question.
[03:15] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it does not matter to me which ubuntu I have really....i just want my printer to work. Ya know?
[03:15] <mbrigdan> prayii, Hey, that makes it work for me in OpenOffice. Thanks!
[03:16] <SubCool> mbrigdan, girl wanted webcam, failed miserable, then she wanted Music, failed miserable, then we just wanted to go onlilne, internet crashed, system stood at a stand still. here she is mad at me, because my great ubuntu is nothing to her getting dressed, geting her laptop, turning it on- turning on music, webcam, and telling me goodnite- maybe tomorrow.
[03:16] <trojan_spike> thing is the ubuntu 9.04/9.10 wouldn't have the support that 10.04/10.10 has.. Can you tell me the made of your printer..
[03:16] <ToddEDM> anyone have a good link to setting up wifi on netbook remix?
[03:17] <justine777w> trojan_spike: Dell 720 Printer
[03:17] <SubCool> chowder, no- i cant get it, but now i have to work for it.
[03:17] <khelvan> hackel - Well I'm stuck. Tried different settings, cycled the input on my receiver, all sorts of things, but still no audio.
[03:17] <SubCool> IdleOne, How come my webcamdoesnt work.
[03:17] <IdleOne> SubCool: I don't know
[03:17] <sirecat> How do I verify that the fglrx driver is working? It suggested I install it, which I did. I don't know what command to use to check it out?
[03:17] <SubCool> IdleOne, when i turn on cheese, camorama or anything, nothing works
[03:18] <justine777w> trojan_spike: I have gone through the forums and have tried to follow the directions and I keep getting error messages.
[03:18] <IdleOne> SubCool: stop directing your questions at me. ask the channel.
[03:18] <trojan_spike> what error message?
[03:19] <dreamy_> why does skype can show my camera image, and other apps dont ? anyone :S ?
[03:19] <hackel> khelvan, yeah, that sucks, wish I could help more.
[03:19] <justine777w> trojan_spike: well it says I have to download the redhat driver for linux, so I do and when I go to extract it through terminal it says that it was not found, doesnt exist.
[03:20] <trojan_spike> did u direct it right?
[03:20] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not know what that means
[03:20] <chowder> SubCool: check to see that you have the proper drivers or that your cam has linux support
[03:21] <chowder> oftentimes its a matter of reloading a module with different parameters
[03:21] <BitEncrypt>  8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(21) and 8 U.S.C. §1452.
[03:21] <trojan_spike> to install it through terminal you have to dir the terminal to it,, then sudo make install.. needs a sudo make file tho.. mmmm,, go to the driver u downloaded for me
[03:21] <BitEncrypt>  8 U.S.C. §1101(a)(21) and 8 U.S.C. §1452.
[03:22] <aetaric> uh... ok BitEncrypt sup with the US legal Codes?
[03:22] <BitEncrypt> lol
[03:22] <BitEncrypt> non-citizen national status
[03:22] <justine777w> trojan_spike: go to it how? the file? its in my home folder
[03:22] <ToddEDM> is anyone able to help me with settimg up wifi on my Acer netbook, trying to run netbook remix
[03:22] <SubCool> chowder, i already had it fixed..
[03:22] <aetaric> !ot | BitEncrypt
[03:23] <SubCool> other than its VERY slow warm up - it WAS working.
[03:23] <BitEncrypt> peace all
[03:23] <trojan_spike> yea,, if u look through the folder.. look for a 'make' file..
[03:24] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i do not have a make file...it says copying, readme and z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
[03:24] <SubCool> chowder, see- now its working again..
[03:24] <trojan_spike> read me.. it will tell you how to install
[03:24] <[Adam|Miner]> I installed ubuntu, then windows 7 on another partition, but windows overwrote grub (so I can't get into ubuntu), how can I still be dual bootable (either with grub or any other bootloader)
[03:25] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay I will try it
[03:25] <sirecat> ubotu !hd2600
[03:25] <trojan_spike> [Adam|Miner], reinstall grub
[03:25] <[Adam|Miner]> trojan_spike: How?
[03:26] <trojan_spike> are u in windows or ubuntu now?
[03:26] <[Adam|Miner]> I am in windows, my only bootable at the moment
[03:26] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it says: sh: can not open sh z600cups-1.0-1.tar.gz.sh
[03:26] <chowder> [Adam|Miner]: you can have the windows bootloader boot ubuntu if you don't want to use grub
[03:27] <[Adam|Miner]> How would I add it though?
[03:27] <[Adam|Miner]> Windows doesn't recognize any other OS atm
[03:28] <Jordan_U> [Adam|Miner]: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[03:28] <erdnase> Good day. I accidentally removed my... I don't know how to call it. Mixer? Or volume control. How do i get it back
[03:28] <trojan_spike> k google ' easybcd' [Adam|Miner] .. download,, install and run the program.. u will have to set it to boot windows and ubuntu.. < this will fix your problem until u get bk to ubuntu>> then reinstall grub<< then uninstall eaybcd..
[03:28] <Jordan_U> erdnase: Right click the pannel, add to pannel, "Indicator Applet".
[03:29] <trojan_spike> justine777w, send me the link where u got the driver
[03:30] <wasnik_> hi guys i am trying to reinstall ubuntu, but the screen gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctrl+at+del gives could not open /dev/sda
[03:30] <erdnase> Jordan_U, I can't see any indicator applet. I.. remember doing some crazy apt-get remove stuff yesterday, trying to fix my exaile because it wasn't working.
[03:30] <erdnase> And it turns out, I also removed the mixer/volume control thing.
[03:30] <ToddEDM> ____is anyone able to help me with settimg up wifi on my Acer netbook, trying to run netbook remix, i have the drivers in a folder on the netbook, also i have a deb with ndiswrapper
[03:31] <justine777w> trojan_spike: http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=content&id=DR4360&actp=search&viewlocale=en_US&userlocale=EN_US&segment=DOWNLOAD&productCode=&searchid=1284431446556
[03:31] <Jordan_U> erdnase: The package is "indicator-applet"
[03:31] <[Adam|Miner]> trojan_spike: Alright, one last question, is 10.10 beta using grub legacy or 2?
[03:31] <erdnase> Jordan_U, Thanks. :)
[03:32] <Jordan_U> erdnase: You're welcome :)
[03:32] <trojan_spike> grub legacy at start,, i put grub2 on tho,, then burg.. :)
[03:33] <wasnik_> hi guys I am tryin to reinstall ubuntu, but it gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctr+alt+del says unable to open /dev/sda
[03:33] <[Adam|Miner]> Thanks, off to test
[03:33] <ToddEDM> why does wifi have to be so difficult with linux? its always been a pain
[03:34] <fr1sco> ToddEDM: does not compute.
[03:34] <aetaric> ToddEDM: it has gotten better
[03:34] <ToddEDM> every netbook distro i have tried (except jolicloud) has not worked
[03:35] <trojan_spike> justine777w, in termin run 'sudo apt-get install devscripts'
[03:35] <wasnik_> hi guys I am tryin to reinstall ubuntu, but it gets stuck on ubuntu promt, ctr+alt+del says unable to open /dev/sda
[03:35] <aetaric> !repeat | wasnik_
[03:35] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Wireless hardware manufacturers have historically been particularly unwilling to work with the open source community. It's gotten a lot better in recent years though, and very recently the last major hold out, Broadcom, announced the release of completely Free drivers and distributable firmware.
[03:36] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What chipset does your netbook use?
[03:36] <aetaric> Jordan_U: really? how did i miss that?
[03:36] <ToddEDM> broadcom
[03:37] <justine777w> trojan_spike: it says postfix configuration...please select a mail server
[03:37] <aetaric> ToddEDM: which broadcom chip?
[03:37] <trojan_spike> local
[03:37] <Jordan_U> aetaric: http://lwn.net/Articles/404248/
[03:37] <michael_wow> Hello, having problems w/ my nvidia chip after doing an update.
[03:37] <ToddEDM> not sure exactly what chipset
[03:37] <kuku_> Hi what antivirus should i install for ubuntu?
[03:38] <Jordan_U> !virus | kuku_
[03:38] <ToddEDM> what cmd can i use to find out what broadcom chip i have in here
[03:39] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: lspci
[03:39] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i cant click on anything and when i hit enter nothing works
[03:39] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: it will list all the devices connected to the pci bus
[03:39] <ShiryuX> Hi guys
[03:39] <kuku_> Hi ubottu: i read the link, it says 'Linux virus infections are theoretically possible'
[03:39] <ShiryuX> I'm trying to install iDroid on my iPhone
[03:39] <ToddEDM> restarting,,, some reason terminal wont come up
[03:39] <trojan_spike> u have to tab,, scrap it anyway.. it wont go in ere for me
[03:39] <[styx]> ok idk if u guys can help but in google chrome i want to make the window half screen but when i click the bitton to do it nothing happens?
[03:39] <ShiryuX> but first I have to install Bootlace
[03:39] <ToddEDM> wtf is iDroid?
[03:39] <xangua> !ot > ShiryuX
[03:40] <kuku_> it's very interesting ... i was thinking to have antivirus for the ubuntu box
[03:40] <ShiryuX> xangua, iDroid is just a start, I have to run some commands on ubuntu
[03:40] <tensorpudding> ShiryuX: what does this have to do with Ubuntu?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> kuku_: ubottu is a female bot computer program
[03:40] <ShiryuX> and I don't know how to run them
[03:40] <sebsebseb> !gender | kuku_
[03:40] <michael_wow> Having problems with my nvidia driver for X, can anyone help?
[03:40] <hiexpo> omg
[03:41] <maximo> sorry to butt in but you need anitvirus for Ubuntu?
[03:41] <maximo> thanks alot
[03:41] <sebsebseb> kuku_: at this time you don't need anti virus, unless your sharing files with Windows
[03:41] <sebsebseb> maximo: no you don't
[03:41] <hiexpo> !virus
[03:41] <maximo> oh okay
[03:41] <ShiryuX> I connect my iPhone to my computer, and install android in there USING ubuntu.
[03:41] <Nasra> se
[03:41] <FullFlannelJacke> When i see an active virus in the Linux world, then I will say you need AV.  Until then forget about AV software.
[03:41] <tensorpudding> There's not enough malware targetting Linux yet.
[03:41] <ShiryuX> The problem comes when I have to run the ubuntu commands
[03:41] <Nasra> sebsebseb: how are you man?
[03:41] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay it stopped running and is finished..now what?
[03:41] <ToddEDM> ShiryuX, why not just buy an Android phone?
[03:42] <ShiryuX> Not enough money, and not fun :P
[03:42] <hiexpo> hey sebsebseb
[03:42] <tensorpudding> Of course, using Linux you are still vulnerable to security issues in the software you install, which are dealt with using Ubuntu's fast security updates.
[03:42] <ToddEDM> ShiryuX, lol
[03:42] <kuku_> thanks sebsebseb, i don't share anything with windows, i run the ubuntu using  virtual machine
[03:42] <ShiryuX> Is like running windows because I can't deal with Linux
[03:42] <sebsebseb> kuku_: uhmm I would suggest putting Ubuntu or another distro, onto your computer for real :)
[03:43] <trojan_spike> im trying something else.. u can remove that.. b.t.w,, it's a 720 ??
[03:43] <FullFlannelJacke> ShiryuX: so you cant deal with Linux but want to install it on your iPhone?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: hi
[03:43] <ShiryuX> lol :P
[03:43] <justine777w> Trojan_spike: remove what? and yes 720
[03:43] <trojan_spike> remove devscripts
[03:43] <ShiryuX> sort of
[03:43] <justine777w> trojan_spike: how?
[03:43] <greezmunkey> tensorpudding: you may qualify that by stating the ppa's are not supported (generally) by security updates, and therefore should be thouroghly checked prior to installation.
[03:43] <ToddEDM> ok got my info on the Broadcom chip, its a 4357 (rev 01)
[03:43] <hiexpo> ShiryuX, Is like running windows because I can't deal with Linux / so you prefer windows ?
[03:44] <trojan_spike> sudo apt-get remove devscripts
[03:44] <ShiryuX> I have to run "sudo Tools/x32/loadibec OpeniBoot/iPhone\ 3G/openiboot.img3" I guess loadibec is the command to run?
[03:44] <tensorpudding> greezmunkey: Of course, software outside of Ubuntu's reach isn't covered, the same as with Windows.
[03:44] <justine777w> trojan_spike: okay removing
[03:44] <ToddEDM> ok got my info on the Broadcom chip, its a 4357 (rev 01)
[03:45] <hiexpo> !windows
[03:45] <gerinych> im trying to run a setup file, but it gives me an error saying "Couldn't load 'setup.data/setup.xml'". any way to fix that?
[03:46] <tensorpudding> ToddEDM: 43xx chips can be covered using a proprietary blob driver available through Broadcom.
[03:46] <ShiryuX> hiexpo, don't quote me off-topic
[03:46] <ShiryuX> I'm not having problems with windows.
[03:46] <greezmunkey> I went to ##windows...asked them how to write a script that would turn my coffee pot on at 4:00 a.m. ... They sent me here...:P
[03:47] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn | grep 14e4" ?
[03:47] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, gimme a sec
[03:48] <ToddEDM> well no i cant actually, i cant get online
[03:48] <tensorpudding> gerinych: what is this for?
[03:48] <dbernar1> I am trying to add a partition using fdisk of type vfat...there is no type vfat in my list of known types. Is fat32 the same? (or rather vfat the driver for fat16 and fat32 drives)
[03:48] <hiexpo> greezmunkey, lol did they give ya the remote bro
[03:48] <gerinych> tensorpudding: its for a game called postal
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is there a setup.data directory in the local directory?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Basically I'm trying to find the pci-id to determine if the b43 driver supports your card, as explained here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: no
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: its supposed to be in the installer file
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: what is?
[03:49] <gerinych> tensorpudding: setup.data
[03:49] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it would appear not
[03:50] <tensorpudding> gerinych: you are using it from an install cd?
[03:50] <gerinych> tensorpudding: yea
[03:50] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U it says "Broadcom Corporation Device [14e4:4357]
[03:50] <ToddEDM> "
[03:50] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Do you understand that fdisk does not actually create a filesystem?
[03:50] <ToddEDM> 14e4 is in Red
[03:51] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is this file an executable script or binary?
[03:51] <justine777w> trojan_spike: i removed the devscrpits
[03:51] <nicnic> I am trying to install Kubuntu 9.10 alternative, however the installer shows options for installing to sdb, how can I change this to 'sda' as that's the drive I would like it on?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Then you'll need to use the proprietary driver as tensorpudding mentioned. Just a second and I'll get you a guide for doing it without an internet connection (it's easier if you can connect temporarily via ethernet though).
[03:52] <trojan_spike> i'll be with u soon]
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: probably a script, it
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: it's a .sh file
[03:52] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, yeah even my ethernet port isnt workgin too
[03:52] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might be worthwhile to pastebin the script
[03:52] <gerinych> tensorpudding: i can't open it in gedit and it's 23mb
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: 23 MB ?!?
[03:53] <trojan_spike> justine777w, 'sudo apt-get install alien'
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: that probably isn't an sh script
[03:53] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: It's very rare for an ethernet card not to be supported, does your router use DHCP? Does the port work in another OS?
[03:53] <tensorpudding> gerinych: why do you think it is an sh script? Is that what file says?
[03:54] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, yeah it does, i also tried my laptop on there, it worked, but not the netbook
[03:54] <justine777w> trojan_spike: done installing
[03:54] <gerinych> tensorpudding: well, it's called linux_installer.sh and i've seen files that are one part script and one part archive of some sort
[03:54] <abhijit> Good Morning!
[03:55] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What happens when you run "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo dhclient eth0"?
[03:55] <tensorpudding> gerinych: hmm, it might secretly be a shell archive with a ton of binary data tucked into it
[03:56] <nicnic> anyone know how to change the installation drive when using the alternate cd?
[03:56] <tensorpudding> gerinych: are you running the script from the local directory, by the way?
[03:56] <gerinych> tensorpudding: no, from the cd
[03:56] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U no such device
[03:57] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: What devices are listed by "ifconfig"?
[03:57] <tensorpudding> gerinych: i mean, you're in the directory with the script
[03:57] <tensorpudding> gerinych: that is, you cd'd to /media/cdrom/ and did ./linux_installer.sh
[03:57] <gerinych> tensorpudding: right
[03:58] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it'd be hard to figure out what the issue is without reading the script
[03:58] <tensorpudding> gerinych: is that error the only one?
[03:58] <nicnic> how do I specify the installation drive when using the alternative cd?
[03:58] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, ummm 'ifconfig'gave me some output, but doesnt look like any actual physical devices
[03:59] <gerinych> tensorpudding: well, it says parser error about "setup.data/setup.xml"
[03:59] <ToddEDM> link encap:local loopback
[03:59] <Jordan_U> gerinych: Can you pastebin the output of "head -n 500 /media/cdrom0/linux_installer.sh" ?
[03:59] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Anything in the form ethN where N is a number?
[04:00] <lk> so much
[04:00] <nicnic> this channel appears to be +m and i must be lacking voice hehe
[04:00] <gerinych> tensorpudding: http://pastebin.com/Z5vzyjkd
[04:00] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U, nope, no eth*
[04:00] <abhijit> nicnic, no you are not
[04:00] <hiexpo> no eth
[04:00] <larsendt> Hi everybody. I'm having troubles with the rtl8187se wireless card in the Eeepc701sd. It worked fine in jaunty and karmic, but lucid doesn't seem to recognize it. Any suggestions? I'm using the UNR 10.04.
[04:01] <nicnic> abhijit: ahh, good to confirm, thanks
[04:01] <jfer> i would try using the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[04:01] <abhijit> nicnic, till then why dont you just have alook at forum or document for alternate cd?
[04:01] <yonahw> I am trying to install 10.04 on an hp xw6000 which has an adaptec 7902 scsi controller. I can't even get to the installation menu as initramfs fails on mounting /dev/loop0. Anybody have any ideas on how to do this?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: That's a problem I don't think I've ever encountered before :)
[04:01] <hiexpo> rtl8187
[04:01] <nicnic> it doesn't mention anything about changing the target drive as strange as that may sound
[04:02] <nicnic> that is not without creating a custom install cd so far
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: Here are instructions for getting your wireless working at least: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43/STA%20-%20No%20Internet%20access
[04:02] <nicnic> which seems like overkill
[04:02] <ToddEDM> Jordan_U , thanks
[04:03] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: well I sorta do, why?
[04:03] <abhijit> nicnic, hmm
[04:03] <Jordan_U> ToddEDM: You're welcome.
[04:03] <dbernar1> I am trying to make it do that now with mkfs. But I am running into the problem of not knowing how to use it.
[04:03] <abhijit> !manual | nicnic see this
[04:04] <larsendt> Whoops. I may have found the solutions.
[04:04] <nicnic> thanks, will take a look
[04:04] <larsendt> solution*
[04:04] <tensorpudding> gerinych: try 'grep setup.data linux_installer.sh'
[04:04] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might be in setup.sh
[04:04] <jfer> i would like to install the latest version of eclipse helios does anyone know if a deb package is available?
[04:04] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am told by fdisk that my partition names are /dev/sdb1p1 and /dev/sdb1p1, but thos don't exist in /dev
[04:04] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You might want to stick with gparted. If not, you'll need to use "sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXY" (and be *very* carefull that you choose the right device).
[04:04] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: so mkfs complains if I tell it that
[04:05] <gerinych> tensorpudding: "Binary file linux_installer.sh matches"
[04:05] <tensorpudding> jfer: Helios is 3.6 right? Ubuntu only has 3.5
[04:05] <nicnic> abhijit: this is for 10.04 which works fine and picks sda instead of sdb, the issue is with 9.10
[04:05] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am being careful, yeah :)
[04:05] <goddard> what a good pic programmer for linux cheap to?
[04:05] <nicnic> just wanted to find out if there was a generic and simple way to specify the drive
[04:05] <jfer> yes that is right
[04:05] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You've added a partition table to a partition, you probably didn't intend to do that.
[04:05] <nicnic> had to downgrade from 10.04 because insight has been removed
[04:05] <abhijit> nicnic, ok. then look inside ubuntuguide.org and ubuntumanual.org
[04:06] <nicnic> ahh, thanks
[04:06] <jfer> i have the binary archive can i turn this into a deb?
[04:06] <tensorpudding> jfer: there might be a PPA available for it, maybe
[04:06] <kronosphere> my C drive is 1TB, I am doing a Wubi dual boot installation with windows 7, how long should it take for the install of ubuntu to finish?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> goddard: can you expand on "pic programmer" please. FYI, most Linux software is opensorce and theefore FREE
[04:07] <kronosphere> i am asking because it is taking a long time, not sure if its a problem, or perhaps due to the 1TB hard drive?
[04:07] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: I am partitioning a USB key. Can gparted do that for me?
[04:07] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: depends on how fast your computer is, but i'd guess somewhere around 20-30 minutes
[04:08] <abhijit> jfer, http://www.webupd8.org/2010/01/how-to-create-deb-package-ubuntu-debian.html and http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/How-to-make-deb-packages/
[04:08] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Yes, and you've used fdisk incorrectly.
[04:08] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: looks like.
[04:08] <abhijit> brb
[04:08] <tensorpudding> jfer: if you really wanted to package 3.6, you should probably talk with the people who are maintaining the eclipse package
[04:08] <Tschacko> Rock da dancefloor
[04:08] <goddard> ActionParsnip I'm not that familar with it so I was hoping some one could point me to good hardware / software package maybe that makes it easy to learn
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: depends on a whole slew of things, there is no single answer. FWIW wubi is god awful. Win7 can resize its own partitions and allow you to do a true boot so the performance will not be affected by the incredible shortcomings of NTFS
[04:08] <Tschacko> i_is_broke: how
[04:08] <kronosphere> tensorpudding: is it normal for themonitor to go into sleep mode during the installation?
[04:08] <nicnic> anyone know how to specify the target drive when using the alternative cd?
[04:08] <Tschacko> i am a poweruser
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> goddard: learn waht exactly?
[04:08] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You probably ran "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1" rather than "sudo fdisk /dev/sdb". But whatever the reason, it's probably best to just stick with gparted.
[04:08] <jfer> do you know the irc channel?
[04:08] <Tschacko> 4
[04:08] <dbernar1> right right that's what I did
[04:09] <tensorpudding> kronosphere: that depends on how your power-saving settings are setup
[04:09] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: ! thanks
[04:09] <abhijit> jfer, irc channel for what?
[04:09] <nicnic> ie it's not listing when selecting manual partitioning
[04:09] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: You're welcome.
[04:09] <jfer> eclipse
[04:09] <tensorpudding> jfer: it's probably not a huge amount of work to adapt the old packaging files to 3.6
[04:09] <Tschacko> floodBot1: 4
[04:09] <abhijit> jfer, #eclipse
[04:09] <jfer> ok thanks
[04:09] <Tschacko> i am superdong
[04:09] <IdleOne> Tschacko: stop that please
[04:09] <tensorpudding> jfer: the maintainers probably have an email, that would be available from packages.ubuntu
[04:09] <yonahw> can anybody help me with installing from busybox. when I try to boot from cd it fails to mount /dev/loop0 and just dumps me into busybox with ash shell
[04:09] <Tschacko> floodBot1:6
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> goddard: I cant  give you pointers on how to learn "it" if you dont tell me what "itI is, can I
[04:10] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Do you use any fakeraid?
[04:10] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: thank you; so i should just sit back and check it again in 30 minutes, eh? :)
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: i guess. I dont use wubi, its rubbish
[04:10] <tensorpudding> jfer: it's actually possible that 3.6 is already packaged for maverick
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !01.10.| tensorpudding
[04:10] <goddard> ActionParsnip its cool I guess thanks any way
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !10.10
[04:10] <nicnic> Jordan_U: no, surprisingly, sda and sdb are both listed in dmesg output, however, the installer only shows sdb
[04:10] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: and the thing is supposed to be unmounted, right?
[04:10] <kronosphere> ActionParsnip: it worked wonders on my laptop that had xp in it ....
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> goddard: the whole flow of that conversation made zero sense, just so you know
[04:11] <Jordan_U> dbernar1: Correct.
[04:11] <dbernar1> Weird, it tells me it can't find /dev/sdb
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> kronosphere: ntfs fragments at the drop of a hat, if yuo use wubi you have a drive image on ntfs so the performance will be affected when the drive fragments. If you use a true install you will use ext4 and performance will never degrade
[04:12] <nicnic> i tried with nodmraid option as well, no cigar
[04:12] <justine777w> trojan_spike: find any useful information?
[04:12] <goddard> ActionParsnip ok thanks
[04:12] <kronosphere> oh, i did not know that
[04:12] <coldboot|home> Does anyone know why Amarok is linked into Nvidia OpenGL drivers? Here's the error: "amarok: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000132gl".
[04:12] <Jordan_U> nicnic: That usually happens when the installer thinks that the drive has fakeraid metadata that it doesn't understand. Rather than writing to it and possably destroying a RAID array it simply doesn't present it as an option (it should really warn the user that it's doing this but that's beside the point).
[04:12] <tensorpudding> gerinych: it might well be a known problem, have you checked the forums for the game?
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: good it worked this time
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: can gparted set the bootable flag on my usb key?
[04:13] <dbernar1> well, on one of the partitions anyway
[04:13] <dbernar1> Jordan_U: got it, never minf
[04:13] <nicnic> Jordan_U: i will double check the bios, any way to confirm this from a shell?
[04:13] <ActionParsnip> coldboot|home: is there a bug for it?
[04:14] <nicnic> and thanks Jordan_U at least i have something to look into now.
[04:14] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Probably but I don't personally know how. The work around is to press F6 at the initial boot screen and select the "nodmraid" option.
[04:14] <yonahw> has anyone actually seen my message about not being able to install?
[04:15] <gerinych> tensorpudding: ive tried googling for that specific error, but there are no results that involve the game
[04:15] <coldboot|home> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[04:15] <trojan_spike> yea,, it needs to be transformed to a package ubuntu can read/use.. i.e .deb
[04:15] <Jordan_U> nicnic: Or zero out the beginning of sdb so that there isn't anything that would look like fakeraid metadata on it.
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> coldboot|home: i'd create one then
[04:15] <trojan_spike> easier said than done tho
[04:15] <Jordan_U> s/sdb/sda/
[04:16] <trojan_spike> any1 got an easy way to change .gz.sh to .deb??
[04:16] <justine777w> trojan_spike: please see PM
[04:16] <nicnic> Jordan_U: you are right, this is an old drive and was probably used in a raid config
[04:16] <nicnic> i will have to look into zeroing it out without having to install redmond os
[04:17] <gerinych> tensorpudding: i remember being able to install that game, like, 2 years ago
[04:17] <trojan_spike> aww,, am sure u can sort it justine.. just remember it needs to be a .deb for ubuntu.. ;)
[04:17] <Jordan_U> nicnic: I'm not sure I understand, you have a windows install on sda currently that you want to preserve?
[04:18] <nicnic> yes
[04:18] <nicnic> i was going to use the free space for ubunutu
[04:18] <nicnic> its a tb drive
[04:19] <nicnic> a 1tb i mean
[04:20] <Jordan_U> nicnic: I'd just use the nodmraid option then (if you're sure that the drive isn't actually part of a raid array).
[04:20] <nicnic> tried the nodmraid option with no cigar
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: is the windows version win7?
[04:21] <psusi> if you have a drive that you previously used as part of a dmraid array and no longer are, you need to remove the raid signatures from it
[04:21] <psusi> either using the bios utility or with dmraid -E
[04:21] <nicnic> ActionParsnip: yes
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !who | psusi
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: if you use the win7 tool you can repartition to make free space
[04:21] <gerinych> anyone know what happens when you enter "_POSIX2_version=199209" in terminal?
[04:21] <psusi> Jordan_U, I guess that would be you and nicnic
[04:22] <nicnic> ActionParsnip: ? i already have free unpartioned space....
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> gerinych: changes the posix code. i'm guessing you are instaklling a .run file
[04:23] <gerinych> actionparsnip: yeah, i tried to
[04:23] <lingm> how do i make thunderbird the default email client such that on the top right mail icon it opens up thunderbird instead of evolution?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> nicnic: cool, then i'd boot to live cd. If you run:  dmesg | tail    you can observe the boot and see whats going on....
[04:23] <abhijit> lingm, you cant
[04:23] <gerinych> actionparsnip: any way to revert that?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> !default | lingm
[04:24] <nicnic> live cd has issues of its own, screen goes blank
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> lingm: http://www.kabatology.com/03/27/how-to-change-your-default-applications-mail-client-in-a-gnome-desktop/
[04:24] <nicnic> all this for insight
[04:24] <nicnic> brb
[04:24] <xangua> lingm: maybe this work http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/how-to-add-thunderbird-to-the-ubuntu-messaging-menu/
[04:25] <psusi> nicnic, does sudo dmraid -s say it found any arrays?  if so and you aren't actually using multiple disks in a hardware fake raid, then you need to fix that
[04:25] <yonahw> where can on find assistance with more advanced ubuntu problems?
[04:25] <yonahw> s/on/one
[04:25] <lingm> xangua, aha yes that's what i was looking for
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> psusi: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html  wil help the black screen thing
[04:25] <psusi> ActionParsnip, don't think you meant that for me
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> psusi: I'm at work so if s/he comes back can you relay, thanks :)
[04:26] <wolter> hi, i have a dell xps m1330 running ubuntu 9.10 and it has no wireless connection :( it is running the live session
[04:27] <Loshki> yonahw: there are a number of specialized groups here on freenode. If you tell us what you need help on, we may be able to refer you....
[04:28] <wolter> can somebody help me?
[04:28] <abhijit> !irc | yonahw
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> wolter: if you run:   sudo lswh -C network     you will see the devices, websearch for the product line of the output for the wifi to fnid guides
[04:28] <Zyklon> one quick question, whats the tool used for installing ubuntu on a win machine?
[04:29] <Zyklon> lmware or something right?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> wolter: you may benefit from using a wired connection until you get drivered up. Makes life easier
[04:29] <Zyklon> ActionParsnip: you know that right?
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> Zyklon: vmware, virtualbox
[04:29] <wolter> yeah but i don't have wires here :S
[04:29] <tjgillies> whats the root ubuntu ami password?
[04:29] <Zyklon> vmware yes that was it
[04:29] <tjgillies> for ec2
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | tjgillies
[04:29] <tjgillies> ActionParsnip: NOTE:You will not be able to connect to this instance unless you already know the password built in to this AMI.
[04:30] <tjgillies> under no key settings
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> tjgillies: whats an AMI?
[04:30] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks for responding, I actually mentioned my problem earlier. I am trying to install to an hp xw6000 with an adaptec 7902 scsi controller. Live cd never reaches install menu instead it loads me into busybox with an error of (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: input/output error Can not mount /dev/loop0 (/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on //filesystem.squashfs
[04:30] <tjgillies> ActionParsnip: amazon ec2 instance image
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> tjgillies: then i'd contact the provider. Ubuntu doesn't support having a root password, nor is it needed
[04:31] <gerinych> actionparsnip: any way to undo "_POSIX_version=199209"?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> gerinych: reboot is my suggestion, not sure what it is normally
[04:32] <Zyklon> anyone got the time to checkout a php source?
[04:32] <gerinych> actionparsnip: alright, ill try that
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> Zyklon: i'd ask in #php
[04:33] <Loshki> yonahw: all I know to suggest at this stage is the obvious: check the md5sum to make sure the CD isn't corrupt. Check google to see if the adaptec is supported or known to have problems.
[04:33] <Zyklon> ok
[04:33] <Zyklon> but can't get in there
[04:33] <Unknown> Hello, can anyone help me move a file into /lib/modules? it says access is denied
[04:33] <abhijit> Unknown, use sudo cp
[04:33] <devslash> if i use the tutorial at http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15037/use-an-ubuntu-live-cd-to-securely-wipe-your-pcs-hard-drive/ to use the wipe command does that do a secure wipe ?
[04:33] <abhijit> or sudo mv
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Unknown: sudo mv file /lib/modules
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> Unknown: or you can use: gksudo nautilus     and use gui
[04:34] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks, been there done that. cd seems to be good, can't really find much on the controller other than people have successfully install the drivers for the controller from the rpm hp provides but I can't get that far
[04:34] <Loshki> devslash: depends on what you mean by "secure". Good enough to sell on ebay, yes. Good enough to hide from the FBI, doubtful...
[04:34] <blockhead> hi
[04:35] <devslash> Loshki: the hard drive in question contains private client info
[04:35] <sinman> how can i format my usb stick back to fat 32 in ubuntu
[04:35] <blockhead> I need help, I'm going to download Windows XP Black Pirate Edition, and, how do I convert it into a ISO?
[04:35] <Blue1> sinman: gparted
[04:35] <sinman> k thanxs
[04:36] <Blue1> blockhead: dd
[04:36] <ratdog> lol
[04:36] <gstarx90> !md5sum
[04:37] <Loshki> yonahw: if they used rpms, they weren't installing ubuntu (which uses debs instead of rpms).  Perhaps a different distro? Or a different release of ubuntu. I personally favor 8.04 for stability/ease of installation...
[04:37] <yonahw> Loshki: they used alien to convert the rpm to a deb
[04:37] <wolter> ActionParsnip, well i installed the ones ubuntu recommended me with the hardware manager, but it says that i have to restart computer and i'm in a live session :S so what command should i run to restart only the necessary stuff? or do I have to reload the kernel?
[04:37] <blockhead> dd?
[04:37] <blockhead> Blue1, dd
[04:38] <blockhead> ?
[04:38] <Blue1> blockhead: do a man dd
[04:38] <blockhead> No idea what you mean?
[04:38] <mattw1> hi all, i had an issue with my ubuntu 10.04 and a partition being erased. now i have access to the ubuntu partition again but the file i need to get to is in my home folder. which is locked. how can i browse that folder and get at that file/s
[04:38] <Blue1> blockhead: nvm
[04:38] <Loshki> devslash: if you are worried about the erase quality, try dban: http://www.dban.org/
[04:38] <Saguaro> haha, goddamn deluge
[04:38] <Saguaro> it was using 2.3gb of RAM
[04:39] <devslash> ok
[04:39] <devslash> whoa
[04:39] <devslash> are you serious
[04:39] <blockhead> Hi. I need help, I'm going to download Windows XP Black Pirate Edition, and, how do I convert it into a ISO?
[04:39] <Saguaro> yep
[04:39] <xangua> !piracy | blockhead
[04:39] <Saguaro> I was wondering why my system was so slow
[04:39] <gstarx90> white pirate edition is better.
[04:39] <Saguaro> wow, was maxing out my CPU too
[04:39] <gstarx90> arrrrrgh
[04:39] <Blue1> Saguaro: windows?
[04:39] <Saguaro> wtf Deluge
[04:39] <yonahw> Loshki: thanks for the help. I will try 8.04 tomorrow when I can get more cd's. only have dvd's left and this machine doesn't have a dvd drive
[04:39] <Saguaro> Blue1, Ubuntu 10.10
[04:39] <devslash> Saguaro: are you talking about dban using 2.3 GB of ram
[04:39] <Saguaro> no, Deluge torrent client
[04:40] <abhijit> !iso | blockhead
[04:40] <Blue1> Saguaro: you should /join ubuntu+1 for 10.10 issues
[04:40] <Loshki> yonahw: that's a good sign that it worked with alien. I would try 8.04 next...
[04:40] <Saguaro> Blue1, I don't think it's an Ubuntu issue at all
[04:40] <mattw1> I need to access an encrypted home folder under the username, matthew i have the password for the user to unlock the home folder but how can i do this?
[04:40] <Saguaro> I was just commenting on it
[04:40] <sinman> well goodnight everyone
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> wolter: you dont have to restart, is it a crappy roadcom 43xx
[04:40] <blockhead> abhijit, right, but there are a bunch of files that need to be converted into one iso, how is that done?
[04:40] <wolter> ActionParsnip, lol, it just started working out of the blue
[04:40] <devslash> Saguaro:  what kinda shitty torrent client uses 2.3 gb of ram
[04:40] <yonahw> Loshki: I thought so too. I will try again tomorrow
[04:41] <abhijit> blockhead, use acetoniso
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> wolter: magic eh, restarts are for windows and kernel upgrades only ;)
[04:41] <Blue1> mattw1: something like this, although YMMV applies:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=9
[04:41] <Saguaro> devslash, it's actually a pretty solid client, it's the first time I've seen anything like this
[04:41] <wolter> ActionParsnip, yeah thats why I asked :D
[04:41] <devslash> well its obviouslu buggy if it uses 2.3gb of ram
[04:41] <Saguaro> memory leak obviously
[04:41] <bobstro> Saguaro:  i've had mine running for days and no problem. any unusual circumstances?
[04:41] <sedulous> Saguaro: are you sure it uses 2.3 GB of resident memory, or 2.3 GB or VIRT (mapped) memory?
[04:42] <Saguaro> it was using 2.3gb of resident memory
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> Saguaro: what is the output of:   free -m   use http://pastie.org   to give the output
[04:42] <mattw1> Blue1, and this gives me access to that folder encrypted
[04:42] <Saguaro> well, I already shut it off and restart it
[04:42] <Saguaro> it's using 54mb now
[04:42] <sedulous> evil. apart from that, i concur, Deluge is a pretty decent client, especially with its new web interface.
[04:42] <devslash> Saguaro:  is that  linux only client ?
[04:42] <Saguaro> devslash, I believe they have Windows support too
[04:42] <Saguaro> and some minimal OSX support
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> sedulous: transmission has a web ui too and can run headless
[04:43] <sedulous> ActionParsnip: i know. i prefer Deluge.
[04:43] <Saguaro> I don't like Transmission's UI
[04:43] <Saguaro> Deluge is more like uTorrent
[04:43] <devslash> i think vuze is good
[04:43] <sedulous> i have tried both
[04:43] <Saguaro> I prefer Deluge's UI
[04:43] <devslash> once you turn off the vuze interface and stick to the older azureus like interface
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> Saguaro: i dont use the gui, only web ui. i gots a torrent / file server :)
[04:44] <maheanuu> IaOra from Tahiti and a cold rainy tahiti today
[04:44] <Saguaro> I prefer Deluge's Web UI over Transmission's too, ActionParsnip :P
[04:44] <sedulous> well actually, I still use a horrible mess of about 20 rtorrent instances besides Deluge :-)
[04:44] <sedulous> with data symlinked back & forth
[04:44] <Saguaro> yeah rtorrent is the way to go for remote servers
[04:44] <mattw1> ok let me re-write my issue. i am on a live USB and cannot get to anything or even boot the old ubuntu install. i need access to the encrypted file folder /home/matthew i have the password for it. what do i do?? thanks in advance
[04:45] <maheanuu> I am having a prob with sound on ubuntu studio 10.04 audio out is very low headphones or speakers
[04:45] <CrazyTux> What SSD would you guys recommend for Ubuntu?
[04:45] <CrazyTux> wanting to get one for my desktop
[04:45] <sedulous> too bad rtorrent _still_ doesn't support IPv6... especially P2P programs should do that.
[04:45] <Loshki> sedulous: I use rtorrent too under vnc. Rtorrent instances are cheap and vnc gives me remote access...
[04:45] <Blue1> hellifino
[04:46] <kneaux> what happened to ipv5
[04:46] <sedulous> Loshki: that seems like a waste of bandwidth. Why VNC and not SSH?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> mattw1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[04:46] <mattw1> TY TY TY TY TYA
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> !ot | CrazyTux
[04:47] <Jordan_U> mattw1: You're welcome.
[04:47] <CrazyTux> ActionParsnip: thank you
[04:47] <sedulous> CrazyTux: the Intel X25-M G2 is still a classic. don't let linear throughput rates fool you. IOPS are much more important.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> Loshki: rtorrent has a web ui, why use a vnc session, makes no sense
[04:47] <duckx0r> Can anyone help me with something probably simple? I just installed ubuntu on my kubuntu box and for some reason I am unable to create any files or folders in my home directory, even as sudo. I get the error "mkdir: cannot create directory `test': Invalid argument".
[04:47] <CrazyTux> sedulous: Yea I am kind of new to this whole SSD thing -- am I to expect to run into any compatibilities issues?
[04:48] <sedulous> CrazyTux: not that I know of, not at all
[04:48] <Jordan_U> CrazyTux: No.
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: boot to root recovery mode. then run: cd /home; chown -R foo:foo ./foo      replace foo with your username
[04:48] <sedulous> CrazyTux: i installed Ubuntu 10.04 on an Intel X25-M just a few weeks ago and it flies, i mean really.. wow :)
[04:48] <Loshki> sedulous: vnc allows rtorrent to keep running even when I'm not viewing it. I use vnc over ssh for secure remote access. Using vnc means it looks the same, local or remote (remote is slower, of course)
[04:48] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, I have multiple users, so I don't think that's a good idea
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> duckx0r: it only affects foo
[04:49] <duckx0r> ActionParsnip, oh right, i missed that part. However if it were an ownership problem, wouldn't I be able to create a file with sudo?
[04:50] <sedulous> Loshki: you can use GNU Screen for that. it's a terminal multiplexer that allows you to detach and attach. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/GNU_Screen.png - notice the "tabs" at the bottom?