[12:26] <bimberi> ooh, HedgeMage, good luck from me too!  Is it an interview?  Don't forget to be ready for when they ask if _you_ have any questions
[12:28] <mhz> arkan0x, hey
[12:28] <mhz> arkan0x, puedes el lunes al as 15:00 ver el hotel con nosotros?
[12:29] <mhz> arkan0x, debo irme inmediatamente :(
[12:29] <mhz> arkan0x, see ya
[12:29] <mhz> bye all guys
[12:50] <pitux> hello
[12:50] <pitux> can any helpme?
[12:50] <pygi> pitux, whats issue?
[12:50] <pitux> i try install edubuntu 6.06
[12:51] <pitux> but, the installation dead in "Building LTSP chroot"
[12:51] <pitux> i check the disk before
[12:51] <pitux> and the disk is good
[12:51] <pitux> the screen lost
[12:52] <pitux> what can be?
[12:52] <pitux> sorry, my english is very basic
[12:53] <pitux> are there any form for avoid "Building LTSP chroot"?
[12:54] <pygi> try CTRL+C
[12:54] <pygi> or you could go for expert installation (not sure if there you can avoid it)
[12:55] <pitux> ok i try inmediatly
[12:55] <pitux> thanks
[12:55] <pitux> can install edubuntu from ubuntu?
[12:56] <pygi> you can: sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <pygi> you have to do some manual configuring then tho
[12:56] <LaserJock> pitux: what do you want to do with Edubuntu?
[12:56] <pitux> install edubuntu, but the installation don't result
[12:57] <pitux> ok no problem
[12:57] <pitux> thanks
[12:59] <LaserJock> do you want to use LTSP?
[01:00] <pitux> no
[01:00] <pitux> i install edubuntu in my laptop
[01:00] <crimsun> hmm...god__ never replied to my question
[01:00] <pitux> i am interesting in edu apps
[01:00] <LaserJock> then you could just install Ubuntu
[01:01] <pitux> ok
[01:01] <pitux> are the same edu-apps?
[01:01] <pygi> pitux, or install edubuntu workstation
[01:01] <LaserJock> if you want the Edubuntu look and default apps then install edubuntu-desktop after you get Ubuntu installed
[01:01] <pitux> cook
[01:02] <pygi> pitux, some info about edubuntu
[01:02] <LaserJock> pitux: Edubuntu and Ubuntu grab apps from the same repositories, they just differ in what apps are installed by default
[01:02] <pitux> the system base is install
[01:02] <pygi> wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters
[01:02] <pygi> night all
[01:03] <pitux> i try install edubuntu workstation
[01:29] <bddebian> Hello
[01:30] <RobinShepheard> hello all
[01:30] <LaserJock> hi RobinShepheard
[01:30] <bddebian> Hello RobinShepheard
[01:30] <RobinShepheard> You will have to forgive me, I am a bit new to all this IRC lark
[01:31] <LaserJock> hehe, no problem
[01:33] <RobinShepheard> I realise that this may possibly be the wrong place to ask this, but is edubuntu just a short cut to ubuntu with the full ltsp environment, obviously give or take a few apps
[01:33] <LaserJock> more-or-less yeah
[01:33] <LaserJock> you could install Ubuntu and then later do LTSP
[01:34] <LaserJock> but it is easier to set up via the Edubuntu install
[01:34] <RobinShepheard> I did guess as much
[01:34] <RobinShepheard> will look at dropping a few of the installed apps then
[01:35] <RobinShepheard> it is for a stockbrokers, and they dont really need things like the periodic table :)
[01:35] <LaserJock> oh, yeah
[01:35] <LaserJock> but you want LTSP?
[01:35] <RobinShepheard> well, my reasoning may be a bit flawed but is as follows
[01:36] <RobinShepheard> we have various offices around the country that we provide apps and services to
[01:36] <RobinShepheard> We use citrix to provide then to everybody, whether they are in the main office or not
[01:37] <RobinShepheard> we have a few old 800mhz boxes lurking in the store and I thought that I may just move a couple of the branches to ltsp
[01:38] <RobinShepheard> I then just have to worry about the main ltsp server in each branch, rather than each desktop, so less work to keep it all upto date
[01:38] <LaserJock> hmm, I don't think LTSP will work outside a local network, but I could be wrong
[01:39] <LaserJock> oh, let me reread that
[01:39] <RobinShepheard> nah it will just be working on the local lans in each office
[01:39] <LaserJock> yeah
[01:40] <LaserJock> so then you only need to take care of one computer at each branch, right?
[01:40] <RobinShepheard> also gives them less to balls up when they try to muck around
[01:40] <RobinShepheard> well that is my thinking
[01:41] <LaserJock> cool
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> once citrix is installed on the ltsp server everyone would have access to it
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> and there would be no config of the desktops, bar setting ten to boot from lan
[01:41] <RobinShepheard> doh them to boot from lan even
[01:42] <LaserJock> hmm, sounds like a good project
[01:42] <LaserJock> I haven't had a chance to try LTSP out myself yet
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> well, it is more a case of if it works it is less work for me
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> I set up a dapper version test server in the office this afternoon and have had a chance to boot 1 client from it
[01:43] <RobinShepheard> VERY sweet
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> works like a dream if you ignore the path in the piccy in the docs when you have to set up dhcp
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> there is a run dialog box and it has the wrong path in it, you have to use the one in the text
[01:44] <RobinShepheard> not in the picture
[01:47] <LaserJock> ah
[01:48] <RobinShepheard> I am thinking of dropping a line to someone about that but have to double check who
[01:50] <LaserJock> RobinShepheard: just send it to the edubuntu-devel mailing list
[01:51] <RobinShepheard> ahh could do, I was going to find the address of Jonathan Carter on the website
[01:51] <RobinShepheard> he has signed all the pages
[01:54] <LaserJock> yeah, he would get it either way :-)
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> despite having used linux for quite a long time this is really the first distro which has really drawn my interest in helping
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> not sure wether that is a good thing or not
[01:56] <RobinShepheard> well for the distro that is ;)
[01:58] <LaserJock> RobinShepheard: same story with me, I used Gentoo, Fedora, SuSE, etc. but Ubuntu was really the first one where is felt like I could contribute and make a difference
[01:59] <LaserJock> the community is really awesome
[01:59] <RobinShepheard> lol yeah I have had a similar list, gentoo, redhat, fedora, suse and so on.
[02:00] <RobinShepheard> yeah the community does seem to be a major point of the distro almost
[02:00] <LaserJock> well, it almost has to be. there aren't all that many people paid to work on it :-)
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> yeah true enough
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> I think I really need to look into how I can help more.
[02:01] <RobinShepheard> I am not a programmer really so I cant contribute that way much
[02:03] <LaserJock> well there is lots to choose from
[02:04] <LaserJock> documentation, packaging, marketing, artwork, bug fixing/triaging
[02:04] <LaserJock> tell me what you like to do and I can find you a team to join :-)
[02:04] <RobinShepheard> that is the main problem really, where do I start
[02:05] <RobinShepheard> I can probably rule out artwork and packaging as art & design is not a strong point
[02:06] <LaserJock> packaging is making the source packages that get made into .debs
[02:06] <LaserJock> it is where I got started
[02:06] <RobinShepheard> doh, my mistake
[02:06] <LaserJock> you just need pretty decent knowledge of linux, but you don't have to be a programmer or anything
[02:06] <RobinShepheard> how much of that requires any programming knowledge?
[02:07] <RobinShepheard> because I am a little lacking in that department
[02:07] <LaserJock> no problemo
[02:07] <LaserJock> are you currently running Dapper?
[02:07] <LaserJock> non-Edubuntu Dapper?
[02:07] <RobinShepheard> Dapper Ubuntu on my laptop
[02:07] <LaserJock> ok, go to System -> Help -> System Documentation I believe it is
[02:08] <RobinShepheard> ahh I got it
[02:08] <LaserJock> I wrote a packaging guide (with the help of other community members)
[02:09] <RobinShepheard> The one I am currently reading???
[02:09] <LaserJock> should be yes
[02:09] <RobinShepheard> sweet
[02:10] <LaserJock> so that has a bit on packaging. A good place to hang out for that is #ubuntu-motu . They look after the Universe apps and are generally a cool bunch
[02:10] <RobinShepheard> ahh may have just hit a slight snag at the mo, cant say I really know anything about make
[02:11] <LaserJock> hmm, ok
[02:11] <LaserJock> have you every built an app from source, i.e. something like ./configure && make && make install ?
[02:11] <RobinShepheard> yeah
[02:12] <LaserJock> well, then you've used it at least ;-)
[02:12] <LaserJock> anyway, if you don't want to dive into packaging just yet
[02:12] <RobinShepheard> yeah true, but the config options are a little beyond me at the mo
[02:12] <RobinShepheard> I am a sysadmin, I program, if you can call it that in perl
[02:13] <LaserJock> well, you can still package you will just need to learn some stuff :-)
[02:13] <LaserJock> if you don't want to dive into that you could try bug fixing/triaging
[02:14] <RobinShepheard> doesn't sound like a bad option
[02:14] <LaserJock> #ubuntu-bugs and wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad and wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay are good places for that
[02:14] <LaserJock> you will often deal with MOTUs and packaging there too, whenever you want
[02:15] <LaserJock> and if you want to write documentation there is always the Documentation Team (#ubuntu-doc and wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumenationTeam)
[02:15] <LaserJock> and of course there is all of that in Edubuntu too
[02:16] <LaserJock> people can float pretty freely between teams and we generally know each other fairly well
[02:16] <RobinShepheard> I think probably the best thing now is to go away and read a bit from the addresses and go from there
[02:17] <RobinShepheard> documentation is possible a quite interesting place to go
[02:18] <RobinShepheard> as I am possibly just about to implement a system across multiple offices
[02:18] <RobinShepheard> may be useful to some one else
[02:19] <LaserJock> yeah, the edubuntu team is working on an Edubuntu cookbook
[02:19] <RobinShepheard> yeah, I did see some of that
[02:19] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToCookEdubuntu/Chapters?highlight=%28Edubuntu%29
[02:20] <LaserJock> and the documenation team has a server setup guide (in that same help system as the Packaging Guide) that could always use help as well
[02:21] <RobinShepheard> thanks a lot for your help
[02:21] <LaserJock> you'll soon find that there is way more to do than you could have imagined and then the problem is limiting yourself
[02:21] <RobinShepheard> I am afraid I have to scoot and collect my better half from town, she just rang
[02:21] <LaserJock> hehe, mine is coming to pick me up soon too
[02:22] <RobinShepheard> lol, guess I got the short straw
[02:22] <LaserJock> :-)
[02:22] <RobinShepheard> just finished a night on the lash with work colleages and needs to get home.
[02:23] <RobinShepheard> still better than having to get a taxi
[02:23] <LaserJock> sure
[02:23] <RobinShepheard> got to go any way, thanks again
[02:24] <LaserJock> no problem
[02:24] <LaserJock> glad you stopped by
[02:24] <RobinShepheard> so am I, never know, if you are really unlikely I may turn up again :)
[02:24] <bddebian> unlikely? :-)
[02:25] <RobinShepheard> doh unlucky
[02:25] <bddebian> :-)
[02:25] <LaserJock> hehe
[02:25] <bddebian> They can't get any unluckier than having me around ;-)
[02:25] <RobinShepheard> lol, see everyone around bye bye
[02:25] <LaserJock> stop it bddebian, you know we love you :-)
[03:14] <HedgeMage> ogra: around?
[03:15] <crimsun> if he's sane, he's either asleep or drunk
[03:15] <HedgeMage> LOL
[03:15] <crimsun> or getting ponies.
[03:15] <HedgeMage> darnit
[03:16] <bddebian> Dang another GIRL? :-)
[03:16] <HedgeMage> rofl
[03:16] <crimsun> HedgeMage: everyone wants a [my little]  pony, stolen from various Web sites, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, ...
[03:16] <HedgeMage> ahh
[03:17] <crimsun> so when we say something sucks because it has no ponies, it's obvious ;)
[03:17] <crimsun> bddebian: sheesh, don't you have three of 'em?
[03:17] <bddebian> 4 counting my wife :-)
[03:18] <bddebian> But it's not like we have a lot in #hurd ;-P
[03:18] <crimsun> yeah, I'm not gonna go there
[03:18] <crimsun> (err, # women, not hurd)
[06:32] <Burgundavia> hey Amaranth
[06:32] <Burgundavia> have you and ogra nailed down a time?
[06:33] <Amaranth> hey
[06:33] <Amaranth> nope
[06:43] <HedgeMage> ahh, life in here again
[06:43] <HedgeMage> :P
[06:44] <LaserJock> nope, you're talking to ghosts
[06:47] <HedgeMage> lol
[07:06] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: can you do something for me?
[07:06] <LaserJock> what?
[07:06] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: could you pull down http://www.freeverse.com/bumpercar2/ and get a full series of screenshots for me?
[07:07] <LaserJock> what kind of shots would you like?
[07:08] <Burgundavia> the configuration dialogs and main window
[07:09] <LaserJock> do you need it now?
[07:09] <Burgundavia> sooner is better
[07:10] <LaserJock> k, on it
[07:10] <Burgundavia> excllent
[07:11] <Burgundavia> anselmolsm and myself are chatting UI right now
[07:18] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: can you handle .tiff files?
[07:18] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: sure, email them to me
[07:28] <Burgundavia> LaserJock: you sent that yet?
[07:31] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/bc_screenshots.tar.gz
[07:31] <LaserJock> it was easier to put it up than email it
[07:32] <LaserJock> I did 11 shots showing prefs and visiting a couple sites
[07:32] <Burgundavia> very cool, thanks LaserJock
[07:33] <LaserJock> got it?
[07:34] <LaserJock> ok, I'm heading to bed now that I've done something with my day ;-)
[07:35] <Burgundavia> yep, I did
[07:35] <LaserJock> great, hope it helps. If you need more ping me and I'll try to do it tomorrow
[07:35] <Burgundavia> yep, it does
[08:43] <irvin> anyone having trouble with checking for cd defects?
[08:44] <irvin> md5 checksum matches but cd check fails
[10:24] <nettogrof> hi :)
[10:25] <HedgeMage> hi there :)
[10:27] <nettogrof> hi HedgeMage how's it going?
[10:27] <nettogrof> oh orite hb
[10:27] <HedgeMage> back
[10:27] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:28] <HedgeMage> not bad, trying to think of a short coding project I can knock out this weekend
[10:30] <nettogrof> ah. to do with what?
[10:35] <tuxtas2> Hi all, trying to set up ltsp on Edubuntu default, but clients are booting but keyboard and mouse freeze. Any ideas?
[10:35] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: sorry, I'm about the only Edubuntu-er that isn't good with LTSP stuff :(
[10:36] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: have you tried the mailing list? it's sometimes easier than guessing who'll be on IRC during a weekend
[10:36] <tuxtas2> kewl, Ill have to have a look, where is the members sign up page?
[10:37] <HedgeMage> nettogrof: basically, I have a potential employer who I think is going to ask for a code sample.  Most of what I've worked on lately is F/OSS with multiple authors, so it'd be like... yeah, I wrote this class and lines 14-27 of this file, and, oh, lines 19, 122, 673 and 1427 of this one, and...
[10:37] <HedgeMage> So, I'm trying to think of a useful project that can be done in a weekend :P
[10:37] <HedgeMage> tuxtas2: hang on I'll grab you a link
[10:38] <tuxtas2> ty
[10:38] <HedgeMage> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel and https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users :)
[10:41] <nettogrof> HedgeMage: You using edubuntu?
[10:43] <HedgeMage> nettogrof: on my lappy, yes
[10:43] <nettogrof> HedgeMage: Ah cool.
[10:43] <HedgeMage> :)
[10:45] <lucasvo> http://thedailywtf.com/forums/thread/74660.aspx
[10:45] <lucasvo> *lol*
[10:48] <HedgeMage> lol
[11:31] <blue-frog> Hi, using xchat-gnome is there a way to log automatically channels conversation as it is possible when you use "normal" xchat?
[11:33] <HedgeMage> Yes, but I'm not sure where you find the option... I've been using irssi for ages
[11:35] <blue-frog> rHah if only GNOME was not removing easy links/options from their apps...
[12:23] <juliux> morning
[02:55] <pawsilver> Help my P4 won't load edubuntu??
[02:56] <pygi> pawsilver, more info?
[03:00] <pawsilver> hi pygi , Its a Asus MB has serial ATA HDD.  I put the Edubuntu CD in it loads the live version then when I click the instal icon it starts and goes through the screens until the partitions and hangs.  It does not see the hard drive in the live version either so it seems as it cannot read my ATA HHD
[03:01] <pygi> ugh, sata discs ;-/
[03:02] <spacey> i quite like SATA
[03:02] <pawsilver> So now it likes I have to buy Microsoft :(
[03:02] <pygi> spacey, indeed, but they don't always work
[03:02] <spacey> its probably not the disk but the controller?
[03:03] <pawsilver> If they don't work I'm stuffed
[03:03] <pygi> spacey, yup, controller
[03:03] <spacey> you should at least check what chip is on the board
[03:03] <spacey> and file a bug
[03:03] <pawsilver> How do I sort out the controller?
[03:04] <spacey> if it really doesn't work out with the controller, a quick solution would be to buy a 10 euro pci sata controller that works.
[03:04] <spacey> pawsilver: if you type `lspci` in a terminal
[03:04] <spacey> it should be listed
[03:05] <spacey> and second you could look into dmesg to see if you see anything detected there
[03:05] <pawsilver> What terminal?
[03:05] <spacey> on the livecd
[03:05] <spacey> the "Dos prompt"
[03:05] <pawsilver> ok I'll try
[03:06] <pawsilver> What do I do after that?
[03:07] <spacey> you can try to look for similar problems in launchpad
[03:07] <spacey> and if you can't find it file a bug
[03:07] <spacey> i have to go now:)
[03:07] <spacey> visitors
[03:07] <spacey> gl
[03:07] <pawsilver> ok thanx
[03:48] <bddebian> Hey folks
[03:49] <ogra> hi bddebian
[03:49] <bddebian> Heya ogra
[03:50] <highvoltage> hey bddebian
[03:50] <bddebian> Hi highvoltage
[03:50] <bddebian> highvoltage: Were you the one telling me about ubuntu-libre?
[03:51] <highvoltage> bddebian: yep
[03:53] <highvoltage> bddebian: how difficult would it really be to build a 100% free ubuntu CD? if you just build a cd and only use the 'main' source, then it should be an 'ubuntu-libre' CD, shouldn't it?
[03:53] <ogra> you'd have to drop l-r-m
[03:53] <ogra> thats the only nonfree stuff we ship
[03:56] <highvoltage> l-r-m?
[03:56] <bddebian> highvoltage: That shouldn't be difficult no
[03:56] <bddebian> linux-restricted-modules
[03:57] <highvoltage> ah, right. i figured it out just before you said it.
[03:57] <highvoltage> i was about to ask about that :)
[04:00] <highvoltage> ogra: do you know much about troubleshooting 3d graphics. i'm really struggling to get it working again on my laptop and the docs/#ubuntu couldn't help me either :/
[04:01] <ogra> card ?
[04:02] <ogra> i heard ati has dropped some support from fglrx with the recent version
[04:07] <highvoltage> ati card. radeon 9000 on thinkpad t42.
[04:07] <highvoltage> it does seem that the driver doesn't support my card.
[04:07] <highvoltage> the thing is, it did have 3D with the default installation with the 'ati' driver. but now i can't get 3D to work again with it :/
[04:08] <ogra> hmm, that'd be a fabbione question ...
[04:09] <highvoltage> i think i'll try to bug him a bit when he's around
[04:09] <ogra> yep
[04:17] <ogra> heh
[04:34] <highvoltage> ogra: more than 1500 hits from distrowatch today, hey
[04:34] <ogra> :)
[04:35] <highvoltage> seems like our top searches revolve around content filtering
[04:35] <ogra> yep as i always say, Amaranth wil save our asses :)
[04:35] <bddebian> Hmm :-)
[04:36] <highvoltage> :)
[04:38] <ogra> hey, we climbed 6 places on the monthly distrowatch stats in the last 3 days
[04:38] <ogra> err 4 places, sorry
[04:38] <highvoltage> for the last 7 days, we've had more hits than Xandros :)
[04:38] <ogra> hehe
[04:43] <highvoltage> it's another RHEL clone
[04:43] <ogra> yes
[04:43] <ogra> i'm astonished its a server distro
[04:43] <ogra> i'd have expected a mediacenter thingie or something with this name
[04:44] <highvoltage> i'm astonished that someone would use something like that, when they can use ubuntu-server and get supported updates, etc for free/easy.
[04:44] <highvoltage> on tinysopha/centos/whitebox, you have to wait for the community to take the sources from the RH site and recompile them
[04:44] <ogra> tell that to the CTOs of this world
[04:45] <highvoltage> that's what i'm doing :P
[06:01] <blue-frog> if i remasterize a livecd with language and add/remove apps, when I install it from ubiquity will my remasterised cd be installed or ubiquity is following a fixed schem?
[06:01] <blue-frog> scheme*
[06:04] <ogra> it uses what d-i uses ... preseed files
[06:04] <ogra> ubiquity is onl a debian-installer frontend
[06:04] <blue-frog> humph what I feared ty
[06:05] <blue-frog> oh but then I can change the preseed file?
[06:05] <ogra> sure
[06:06] <blue-frog> ah better, lots of know for the non-dev I am but not impossible, good news..
[06:06] <blue-frog> lots of work*
[06:07] <blue-frog> would you have a handy command to find out all packages installed, pls?
[06:07] <ogra> look at the .list files in the CD download directory
[06:08] <blue-frog> ok ty but i meant in a console on a running OS
[06:08] <ogra> have a look at germinate
[06:08] <blue-frog> ty
[06:08] <ogra> but that requires some understanding of seeds
[06:08] <blue-frog> ah :(
[08:48] <highvoltage> s_: hey, what's up?
[08:48] <highvoltage> edubuntu distrowatch count for last 24h up to 1600.
[08:49] <highvoltage> 629 hits from heise. wow.
[08:50] <ogra> :)
[08:50] <highvoltage> 85 from google searches.
[08:50] <highvoltage> 100 from http://barrapunto.com/
[08:50] <highvoltage> the most come from the ubuntu sites though
[08:50] <highvoltage> 7492- http://www.ubuntu.com/
[08:51] <highvoltage> 3226- http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:51] <highvoltage> 1533- http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop
[08:51] <highvoltage> 1011- http://www.ubuntu.com/server
[08:51] <highvoltage> 972- http://www.xubuntu.org/
[08:51] <highvoltage> and that's just for the last 24h :)
[08:52] <highvoltage> 57 from jsgotangco's blog :)
[08:52] <highvoltage> 55 from fridge
[08:52] <ogra> heh
[08:52] <highvoltage> 42 from wikipedia
[08:53] <highvoltage> 33 from slashdot.jp
[08:53] <ogra> is the dvd link in the downloads page ?
[08:53] <highvoltage> 33 from google.fr and 32 from google.de
[08:54] <highvoltage> it only points to http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/6.06/, which only contains cd images
[08:54] <highvoltage> where's the correct location for the DVD images?
[08:55] <highvoltage> heh. 26 hits from http://spaces.msn.com/tomwng/
[08:55] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/6.06/release/
[08:55] <juliux> ogra, can you write something there? http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/33812/
[08:57] <ogra> juliux, i have no clue about KDE bugs or how much manpower there is in the KDE community to fix them
[08:57] <juliux> ogra, not about kde bugs
[08:58] <juliux> ogra, something why it good if you report a bug
[08:58] <ogra> well, its the only way to really get your problem solved ... but i'm not really after having a forum discussion
[08:59] <juliux> ok
[08:59] <ogra> (apart from not having an account)
[09:53] <highvoltage> goodnight, #edubuntu
[09:53] <pygi> night highvoltage
[09:53] <highvoltage> night pygi!
[10:28] <dm> Hello, what language is spoken here?
[10:28] <pygi> dm, english ;)
[10:30] <dm> I'm trying to set some kernel options for the PXE clients. I'm using ubuntu's ltsp server implementation 0.87. In a wiki entry (http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/NFS#Solution_when_using_PXE) I found the line to append.
[10:30] <dm>  But _my_ file /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/pxelinux.cfg/default has only one line: "DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash". If I add "MOPTS=nolock,ro,wsize=2048,rsize=2048,proto=tcp" the clients ignore this and mount their nfs root fs via udp with 32k blocksize.
[10:31] <dm> Can anyone tell me if the syntax has changed or how to get it work?
[10:31] <lucasvo> dm: edubuntu doesn't support the LTSP way of ltsp :)
[10:31] <pygi> lucasvo, what a statement :P
[10:31] <lucasvo> we use the muecow implementation
[10:31] <lucasvo> pygi: well, how would you call it?
[10:32] <pygi> lucasvo, none, just joking :) relax :)
[10:33] <lucasvo> yeah, I am chilling, don't worry :)
[10:33] <dm> So how can I tell the clients (the ones with only 10 Mbit connection) to use smaller blocksize or even tcp?
[10:33] <lucasvo> I would ask in #ltps
[10:34] <dm> Just did that ;-)
[10:35] <dm> They only know the way describes in the wiki.
[10:35] <ogra> dm, see /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/nfs
[10:35] <ogra> you need to set NFSOPTS, not MOPTS
[10:36] <dm> ogra: What is MOPTS then?
[10:37] <ogra> probably an option used in initrd driven systems, initramfst respects NFSOPTS as you can see in the bootscript
[10:37] <dm> Ok, I'll try that (tomorrow).
[10:39] <ogra> dm, "I'm using ubuntu's ltsp server implementation 0.87 (that's AFAIK what LTSP 4.2 is based upon)"
[10:40] <ogra> dm, they are two completely separate developments
[10:40] <dm> Oh, then I misunderstood something ...
[10:42] <dm> ogra, On http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Edubuntufaq I found "Beezy bringt eine eigene Implementation (ltsp 0.58) mit.
[10:43] <ogra> dm, autsch, das stimmt so nich
[10:44] <lucasvo> fatal falsch
[10:44] <dm> Mmh, das wei ich jetzt auch.
[10:44] <ogra> naja, der letzte part stimmt
[10:45] <lucasvo> es ist nicht mehr kompatibel zu einander
[10:45] <ogra> vllt sollten wir nach #edubuntu-de gehn :)
[10:45] <lucasvo> jo
[11:10] <HedgeMage> hi LaserJock
[11:39] <pygi> Hey HedgeMage :)
[11:58] <finch> hi to all just loaded edubuntu on my laptop benq 5500u all seem to work except the onbroad wireless
[12:00] <finch> seem to find it ok try to config find the router but no traffic is received?


 :-----D)
[00:22] <bluesabre> it's just 2 button icons, so could be worse
[00:22] <Unit193> Ah.  And yeah, just look how they ruined Remmina.
[00:22] <Unit193> "It's better this way!" :D
[00:22] <Unit193> ..I'm on -devel, whoops.
[00:23] <bluesabre> :D
[00:42] <Unit193> slickymaster: And, forgot to say.  Good then! \o/
[01:06] <bluesabre> import and export implemented
[01:06] <bluesabre> ... hackily
[01:06] <bluesabre> :D
[02:29] <Unit193> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001143.html
[02:35] <bluesabre> yup
[02:35] <bluesabre> expecting some breakage
[02:36] <bluesabre> Unit193: anything else you'd expect here, do you want to be in AUTHORS for your desktop file contribution?  Where is our old history for this thing, or did I do the gui myself? https://code.launchpad.net/~xfpanel-switch-dev/xfpanel-switch/trunk
[02:37] <bluesabre> :D
[03:10] <bluesabre> ochosi: should be good to test now, enjoy
[03:11]  * bluesabre goes to bed
[03:11] <Unit193> Oh, good night.  And whatever makes you feel best, tbh.
[03:14] <micahg> Unit193: I can help with livecd-rootfs
[03:14] <micahg> I have to know what  you want though :)
[03:14] <micahg> as for the gcc-5 rebuild, I was going to see what we needed
[03:14] <Unit193> That one looked like it'd be the easier one to patch.  Well, xubuntu-core is "all" we needed to add, soo.
[03:14] <Unit193> Yeah, that's mostly fine for us.
[03:18] <Unit193> Thanks for offering too, micahg!
[06:33] <Noskcaj> places-plugin is already fixed, and the only actual gcc issue seems to be libopenraw
[11:23] <knome> ochosi, i just added the possibility to show/hide the whiteboard...
[11:28] <knome> slickymasterWork, i just added the possibility to show/hide the whiteboard...
[11:28] <slickymasterWork> let me check
[11:29] <slickymasterWork> knome, getting an Internal Server Error
[11:29] <knome> oh right
[11:29] <knome> look at your email again then :)
[11:29] <slickymasterWork> no, wait
[11:29] <slickymasterWork> was accessing yesterday url
[11:29] <knome> yep
[11:30] <slickymasterWork> now disabling javascript :P
[11:30] <knome> yw, but the whiteboard is hidden then
[11:30] <slickymasterWork> or better enabling it
[11:30] <slickymasterWork> yeah :P
[11:30] <knome> because it's a bit too obtrusive to show it all by default
[11:31] <slickymasterWork> I prefer it showing the whiteboard
[11:33] <knome> well, you can expand all, then show all whiteboards
[11:33] <knome> and consider if that was the view you saw with no js by default
[11:34] <slickymasterWork> consider in what aspect?
[11:34] <knome> consider what it would feel inside you
[11:34] <knome> would it make you warm
[11:34] <knome> or would it make you puke of the information overload
[11:34] <slickymasterWork> you're crazy
[11:34] <slickymasterWork> lol
[11:35] <knome> me? crazy? nooo...
[11:35] <slickymasterWork> just a pure aesthetically point of view
[11:35] <slickymasterWork> it gives some color to the wall of text/data
[11:36] <knome> the whiteboard?
[11:36] <knome> or the puke?
[11:36] <slickymasterWork> :P
[11:36] <knome> but yeah, i've been considering the visual aspec too
[11:36] <knome> +t
[11:36] <knome> there's something that doesn't work as is
[11:36] <slickymasterWork> what?
[11:36] <knome> i can't exactly pinpoint it yet
[11:37] <knome> but it might be better if the different specs were their own tables
[11:37] <knome> and there was some padding between them
[11:37] <knome> that would also give some kind of rhythm for the page
[11:37] <slickymasterWork> perhaps
[11:38] <slickymasterWork> but it could also make it heavier - the different specs being their own tables
[11:38] <knome> and that wouldn't be a bad move technically either, it'd help the modularity a bit
[11:38] <slickymasterWork> it could turn out to be a trade off
[11:38] <knome> well, if i separate them, the tables are still easy to put back together
[11:39] <knome> so maybe i'll do that change next..
[11:39] <slickymasterWork> trial and error proccess ;)
[11:40] <knome> hmm, heh
[11:40] <knome> now that looks chaotic...
[11:41] <slickymasterWork> yeah
[11:41] <slickymasterWork> too much
[11:41] <knome> well the bars are misaligne etc
[11:41] <knome> let me fix that first :P
[11:42] <knome> (and do some other changes while i'm at it...)
[11:42] <slickymasterWork> :)
[11:43] <slickymasterWork> I'll check it after lunch knome
[11:43] <knome> sure
[11:43] <knome> bon appetit
[11:43] <slickymasterWork> dank
[11:43] <knome> (i'm also eating as we talk, bad habits!)
[11:43] <slickymasterWork> lol
[12:19] <knome> pleia2, remind me again, was there something about the SSL thing we wanted to check before contacting IS (or did i already promise to do that and forgot?)
[14:36] <pleia2> knome: nope
[15:31] <flocculant> hello channel
[15:37] <Reklan> howdo
[15:44] <flocculant> hi Reklan
[15:47] <knome> pleia2, ok, i'll follow up with IS on that today then
[15:48] <knome> hello flocculant, Reklan
[15:50] <flocculant> hi knome
[15:54] <knome> soo... what's up?
[15:54] <flocculant> only stuff
[15:55]  * slickymasterWork didn't see any changes in the status page
[15:55] <slickymasterWork> ... just sayin'....
[15:55] <knome> slickymasterWork, that's because you looked too late
[15:56] <slickymasterWork> lol
[15:56] <flocculant> that'll be a Y in the day then
[15:56] <knome> i did the <tbody> to <table> migration already
[15:56] <knome> but it didn't work
[15:56] <knome> well i mean visually
[15:56] <knome> so i reverted the visual style
[15:58] <flocculant> so
[15:58] <flocculant> I have seen  talk in logs in some blueprint/status replacement
[15:59]  * slickymasterWork will go with knome's experienced position on the visual/aesthetic aspect of it all ;)
[15:59] <flocculant> oh right ...
[15:59] <flocculant> that
[15:59] <knome> slickymasterWork, i'll have to count on you on the puke though
[15:59] <slickymasterWork> bah
[16:00] <knome> flocculant, would you like to contribute to xubuntu? d:
[16:00] <flocculant> I could possibly spend some of my time with QA stuff
[16:00] <flocculant> IF there is a need
[16:01] <knome> like... half of your life?
[16:03] <flocculant> lol
[23:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: meh, parole currently segfaults (even with xv selected as backend) when closing it
[23:33] <ochosi> knome: nice, so we can soon ship pdf offline docs per release?
[23:34] <ochosi> also, nice work on the status tracker!
[23:34] <knome> i guess so..
[23:34] <ochosi> some hover-style for the overview list might help, currently it's not always easy to see (especially on wide screens) which progressbar is associated with which blueprint
[23:35] <ochosi> and yeah, i did like the burndown, but i guess that one would be the hardest to replicate ;)
[23:37] <jjfrv8> evening, ochosi. Did you see my question a while back about working on the thunar docs?
[23:37] <ochosi> hey jjfrv8
[23:37] <ochosi> oh sorry, yeah, that was a longer while ago already, right?
[23:37] <ochosi> was on and off a lot
[23:37] <jjfrv8> kinda
[23:37] <ochosi> hence didn't follow up on everything maybe
[23:38] <jjfrv8> well, I went ahead and started working on them anyway, hope that was okay
[23:38] <ochosi> sure!
[23:38] <ochosi> so the green parts you've worked on?
[23:38] <jjfrv8> mostly
[23:39] <jjfrv8> i'm kind of stopped on the plugins, though
[23:39] <jjfrv8> xubuntu seems to have integrated all of them but I"m not sure about other distros
[23:40] <ochosi> that looks really nice, judging from the first impression!
[23:40] <jjfrv8> ok cool.
[23:40] <ochosi> right, so what would be the problem if other distros haven't?
[23:41] <ochosi> i mean either way, it's useful to have docs for them
[23:41] <jjfrv8> well I put two screenshots in of the File and Edit menus, which in xubuntu have the plugins built in. So I don't know if it's okay to show them that way
[23:41] <ochosi> oh that
[23:41] <ochosi> imo that's minor
[23:42] <ochosi> theoretically you can uninstall the plugins in xubuntu, but it's really better to have your updated shots than the current outdated ones
[23:43] <jjfrv8> so maybe just put a disclaimer in that one might have to install the plugins if they're not already available?
[23:43] <ochosi> yeah
[23:43] <ochosi> that's definitely enough
[23:43] <jjfrv8> the links to the plugins upstream docs seem to be pretty out of date to.
[23:43] <ochosi> or even too much, for just a few menu items
[23:43] <ochosi> yeah
[23:43] <ochosi> i'm not surprised
[23:44] <ochosi> anyway, gotta get some sleep
[23:44] <ochosi> i'll try to do some closer review soon, but tomorrow i'll be afk
[23:44] <jjfrv8> sounds good. thanks.
[23:44] <ochosi> after the review, we can plan merging the parts that are ready asap
[23:46] <knome> hmmh
[23:46] <knome> now i can build all translations into pdf's too with the makefile
[23:47] <knome> boring :)
[23:48] <ochosi> knome: awesome :)
[23:54] <knome> https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=26794 (requesting SSL for xubuntu.org)
[23:54] <knome> Unit193, PI-PI-PI-PING!!!!
[23:54] <knome> Unit193, see above.'
[23:54] <Unit193> Wow, good timing.
[23:54] <knome> Unit193, check out the docs branch makefiles
[23:55] <knome> Unit193, make pdf and make translate-pdf should both work
[23:55] <knome> (for desktop-guide, make pdf from root calls make pdf, but translate isn't linked)
[23:55] <bluesabre> ochosi: yup
[23:55] <bluesabre> poor poor parole
[23:55] <bluesabre> poorole
[23:55] <bluesabre> poo role?
[23:55] <bluesabre> :|
[23:55] <knome> :|
[23:55] <knome> TMI
[23:55] <bluesabre> lol
[23:56] <bluesabre> ochosi: didja check out xfpanel-switch?
[23:56] <knome> huhu


[10:00] <zequence> I've completed tests for the 64bit. Will do tests for 32bit later. Counting on success, but won't be done until 3-4h from now


[11:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[19:12] <RikMills> mamarley: 5.19 is being prepared ;)
[19:12] <mamarley> It must already be in one of the PPAs, because I just installed it.  It works fine so far.  Thanks!
 \o/
[19:13] <RikMills> yes, it is
[19:13] <RikMills> might be a while after release that it goes in the archive, as has 2 new source packages needing archive admin review
[19:14] <RikMills> that can take some time to get done
[19:17] <RikMills> search box in kicker/kickoff refused input for me at 1st. a 2nd plasma restart done and now seems ok. something to look out for
[19:19] <RikMills> santa__: 5.19 staged and git pushed
 Does krunner autopopulate with last text added to the clipboard?  Neon Dev unstable does this and I see no way to disable...
 @DarinMiller, Doesn't seem to
[19:41] <mamarley> Looks like my disappearing-Powerdevil bug hasn't been fixed yet though: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=421779


[06:38] <dholbach> good morning
[08:31] <sicness> What is "whitespace" ?
[09:27] <tumbleweed> bdrung: erm, so we sohuld backport the new distro-info-data
[09:27] <Laney> SRU?
[09:28] <tumbleweed> yes
[09:28] <Laney> that thing
[09:28] <tumbleweed> any objection to just SRUing a straight backport?
[09:28] <bdrung> tumbleweed: yes and probably do another upload before (please have a look at my commits whether they are sane)
[09:28] <tumbleweed> (it's less work)
[09:28] <tumbleweed> oh, did I screw itup? :)
[09:29] <bdrung> partially :)
[09:29] <tumbleweed> wheezy was released on the 5th, not the 4th
[09:29] <bdrung> the release notes have a different date
[09:30] <tumbleweed> there's a date in the release notes?
[09:30] <bdrung> $ debian-distro-info -t
[09:30] <bdrung> experimental
[09:31] <bdrung> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ says Debian 7.0 was released May 4th, 2013
[09:31] <bdrung> and http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 says "May 4th, 2013" at the top
[09:32] <tumbleweed> lol
[09:32] <tumbleweed> anyway I don't care about that too much
[09:32] <tumbleweed> the testing thing is a bigger issue, though
[09:33] <bdrung> i'll do an upload if that's okay to you
[09:33] <tumbleweed> fine
[09:33] <tumbleweed> can you request an upload into stable-updates?
[09:38] <bdrung> tumbleweed: which procedure to i need to follow for that?
[09:46] <tumbleweed> bdrung: actually, no idea. We should ask
[09:47] <bdrung> tumbleweed: am i allowed to offload this work to you?
[09:47] <tumbleweed> sure, I started it
[09:47] <tumbleweed> um, so SRUing a straight backport?
[09:47] <bdrung> what do you mean with "SRUing a straight backport"
[09:48] <tumbleweed> I mean using backport style versions and a full changelog, rather than applying a patch to a bunch of releases
[09:48] <tumbleweed> bdrung: FYI: from #debian-release: 09:48 < ansgar> tumbleweed: Same as into proposed-updates + mention stable-updates in the pu bug.
[09:49] <bdrung> i prefer the latter, but it's up to you (if the latter is too time consuming)
[09:49] <bdrung> tumbleweed: and the procedure? just upload the package isn't sufficient, right?
[09:51] <tumbleweed> for p-u, one requests permission to upload before uploading
[09:51] <tumbleweed> via a bug
[09:51] <bdrung> bug against?
[09:51] <tumbleweed> release.debian.org
[09:51] <bdrung> okay, thanks for the info
[09:52] <tumbleweed> anyway, why is it giving the wrong output for --testing?
[09:57] <bdrung> tumbleweed: because you forgot to adjust "created" for jessie
[09:58] <bdrung> http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/distro-info-data.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b66417193f2e73c180f644a73fa14d7e8bf388f;hp=20d03b1bd2b589c0e432b829f9661be6dc2bf633
[09:59] <tumbleweed> oh, duh
[09:59] <bdrung> tumbleweed: hurry with the SRU, because oneiric will EOL tomorrow ;)
[09:59] <tumbleweed> pff
[10:00] <tumbleweed> I skipped oneiric in the last round of distro-info-data SRUs
[19:16] <TheLordOfTime> where do i ping regarding a sync request for saucy for universe?
[19:16] <TheLordOfTime> or do i just let it sit for a while?
[19:22] <jtaylor> autosyncs are running
[19:22] <jtaylor> so you should not need to request a sync
[19:30] <mitya57> unless your package is in experimental
[19:33] <jtaylor> right, but then its better to ask the maintainer to put it in unstable
[19:33] <jtaylor> we generally don't want stuff that is intentionally in experimental
[19:34] <Unit193> http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/screen.html I take it the RFH is blocking?  (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/screen)
[19:36] <mitya57> we have ubuntu delta
[19:36] <jtaylor> oh right, I forgot about these :O
[19:37] <Unit193> Ah, thanks.
[19:37]  * mitya57 is right now uploading mathjax to unstable, that should make jtaylor happy
[19:38] <jtaylor> I did say intentionally in experimental
[19:38] <jtaylor> we do want stuff that is in exp because unstable is sort of frozen
[19:43] <mitya57> that should anyway make you happy :)
[19:55] <jtaylor> ipython should work with both, so I'm ambivalent :p
[19:57] <mitya57> in 2.1 I've splitted png package out so libjs-mathjax is just 10 mb instead of 18
[19:57] <jtaylor> nice
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor:  it's *in* unstable
[20:02] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor:  if it's autosync
[20:03] <TheLordOfTime> 'd, when's the next autosync
[20:03] <TheLordOfTime> ... stupid keyboard...
[20:04] <mitya57> TheLordOfTime: which package?
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  nginx, in universe
[20:05] <TheLordOfTime> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1177919 if you want to burn the bug.
[20:05] <jtaylor> with delta it needs manual sync
[20:06] <jtaylor> it will happen soon
[20:06] <mitya57> TheLordOfTime: someone filed bug 1177919, was that you?
[20:06]  * TheLordOfTime points at his name on the bug
[20:06]  * mitya57 is stupid
[20:06] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  yeah, it was, because i wasn't sure autosyncs had started
[20:07] <mitya57> TheLordOfTime: why "Add ubuntu branding to server_tokens." should be dropped?
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  that's a question you should ask upstream, the main reason for the sync request is to *add* in additional highly-demanded features that've already been implemented and only recently included in unstable
[20:08] <mitya57> TheLordOfTime: why not merge then?
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  if i had my ways, i'd try and merge the two
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> but i don't have the skills for that
[20:08] <TheLordOfTime> unless there's a nifty requestmerge tool
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> in which case someone else would have to do the merging.  i don't have the packaging skills to merge.
[20:09]  * mitya57 has to go sleep today, but will probably try tomorrow
[20:09] <jtaylor> not having the skills to merge is no reason to do a sync
[20:10] <mitya57> can you please unsubscribe sponsors and assign /me?
[20:10] <jtaylor> only request a sync if the delta can really be dropped
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor:  then explain requesting a merge?
[20:10] <jtaylor> ask the person who did it last
[20:10] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor:  there needs to be MUCH better documentation on where to request merges, how to request merges, etc.  i was unaware there was a significant delta, also
[20:10] <jtaylor> why does nginx need ubuntu branding oO
[20:10] <jtaylor> especially as its universe
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> that's what i'm curious to now as well
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> it really DOESN'T need ubuntu branding
[20:11] <mitya57> TheLordOfTime: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/udd-merging.html
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> since it's a universe-maintained package
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  standby i'll remove/subscribe you
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> or do you want me to assing it to you
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> WORK, KEYBOARD!
[20:11]  * TheLordOfTime is not pleased about this keyboard breaking
[20:11] <mitya57> subscribing should be enough
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  what's your LP
[20:12] <jtaylor> the merge does not look difficult
[20:12]  * TheLordOfTime facedesks
[20:12] <TheLordOfTime> nevermind
[20:12] <jtaylor> can you please ensure that the branding is the only thing that can't be dropped
[20:12] <jtaylor> or can, asl zul
[20:12] <jtaylor> ask
[20:13] <mitya57> probably branding is needed for "Nginx/1.4 (Ubuntu) Server at example.com Port 80"-like strings
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> mitya57:  i've subscribed you and unsubscribed sponsors
[20:13] <mitya57> I see, thanks
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> it would help if zul is online, jtaylor
[20:14] <jtaylor> write an email
[20:14]  * TheLordOfTime can't email effectively from a mobile wifi connection
[20:14] <TheLordOfTime> * TheLordOfTime can't email effectively from a mobile wifi connection
[20:14] <TheLordOfTime> (gmail LAGS)
[20:14]  * mitya57 waves good night
[20:19] <TheLordOfTime> jtaylor:  after fighting with my mobile wifi, i got an email to zul
[20:19]  * TheLordOfTime sits down and waits for a response
[22:08] <LeartS> Hi guys! 2 days ago i was asking here why my command "bzr builddeb -S" was failing on a branch of a project of which i was trying to fix a bug (dpkg-source lamenting of upstream changes). Now, having read a lot more, I understand (tell me if I'm wrong) that 'bzr builddeb' uses dpkg-source, which raises an error when there are differences from the upstream source not addressed by a patch in debian patch
[22:09] <jtaylor> yes
[22:10] <ScottK> sometimes
[22:11] <LeartS> Am I right until here? - So, i proceeded to write my changes on a patch file in two ways: using 'dpkg-source --commit' and 'bzr diff > bugfix.patch' and then importing the patch with 'quilt import bugfix.patch'
[22:12] <jtaylor> no
[22:12] <jtaylor> dpkg-source --commit does not commit to the version control
[22:13] <jtaylor> first thing is if you use bzr-buildpackage and then get this error this probably means you committed a change to the upstream source in your bzr
[22:14] <LeartS> Yes
[22:15] <LeartS> I mean, I edited a source file of the upstream project (not a packaging-related file) to fix the bug
[22:15] <jtaylor> I don't know the canonical way in bzr to create patches
[22:16] <jtaylor> does edit-patch work with bzr?
[22:16] <jtaylor> but you should not commit directly your changes
[22:16] <jtaylor> in the main branch at least
[22:17] <jtaylor> a yes it works somewhat
[22:18] <jtaylor> possibly the simplest way is to run edit-patch <patch-name> from your source
[22:18] <jtaylor> then you can edit the files directly
[22:18] <jtaylor> then logout with ctrl+d
[22:18] <jtaylor> it will create a quilt patch and changelog
[22:18] <jtaylor> which you then commit to bzr
[22:19] <jtaylor> you should first revert your previous direct commits to bzr (or convert them to patches with bzr diff -r... and import them with quilt and commit that)
[22:19] <LeartS> Oh. I tought edit-patch wouldn't let me changes files "normally" so I avoided it!
[22:20] <LeartS> I thought I had to write directly in diff syntax, lol
[22:24] <LeartS> Thanks for the help. But right now I'm trying to try to build a bugfix branch created by another person (that i branched from his launchpad), so the upstream changes are already made, not in patch form
[22:25] <jtaylor> there is possibly a direct way to do it, but I don't know it
[22:25] <LeartS> but "directly committed", if I understand what you mean by it
[22:25] <jtaylor> what you can do is create diffs with bzr diff of that branch and import these with quilt
[22:26] <jtaylor> in git you would do e.g. git format-patch base-commit..branch-head-commit
[22:26] <LeartS> Yeah, I did that. and the error about upstream changes went away
[22:26] <jtaylor> and get a bunch of patches you can import
[22:26] <LeartS> but another error came up:
[22:27] <LeartS> dpkg-source: error: cannot read gnome-screenshot-3.6.1.orig.8S4BV4/debian/patches/bugfix.patch
[22:27] <LeartS> bugfix.patch is the generated patch
[22:27] <jtaylor> did you add the patch to bzr?
[22:27] <jtaylor> for new files you have to do bzr add ...
[22:27] <jtaylor> then commit
[22:27] <jtaylor> see bzr status for untracked files
[22:40] <LeartS> No I didn't, I think that was the problem (so stupid :( ). One (I hope last) problem: the patch file created using bzr diff uses relative paths, that do not work with quilt (I imagine Because when importing quilt moves it to debian/patches)
[22:43] <LeartS> well, turns out dpkg-source creates a valid patch. I finally managed to build the source package!
[22:44] <LeartS> (I meant 'dpkg-source --commit')
[22:44] <jtaylor> not sure what kind of patches bzr creates
[22:44] <jtaylor> you need -p1 type patches
[22:44] <LeartS> there is a flag -p1 for the diff command of baazar
[22:45] <LeartS> I'll try to use that
[22:45] <jtaylor> I don't think its exactly the same, but similar
[22:46] <jtaylor> -p1 type is the -p flag of patch
[22:46] <jtaylor> -p1 is: <ignored>/patch/to/changed/file
[22:46] <jtaylor> -p0 would be path/to/changed/file
[22:48] <LeartS> 'bzr help diff | grep p1' says: "bzr diff -p1" is equivalent to "bzr diff --prefix old/:new/", and
[22:48] <LeartS>   produces patches suitable for "patch -p1".
[22:49] <jtaylor> oh ok
[22:49] <LeartS> jtaylor: thanks for your help. you're amazing :)
[22:51] <jtaylor> np, I'm offline now


[00:03] <sbalneav> joerg: being able to add unix users via a web interface is usually considered to be a bad idea.
[00:07] <joerg> sbalneav, because? :)
[00:08] <sbalneav> Because if you have any kind of a problem/vulnerability on your web interface, people can use that to create local users.
[00:08] <sbalneav> Then, if you've got unpatched local root exploits, they're root very quickly.
[00:11] <sbalneav> If you're talking about creating users for JUST the portal, that's one thing
[00:11] <sbalneav> but if creating a user creates a login Linux login, that's usually considered to be "bad practice"
[00:12]  * HedgeMage seconds sbalneav's comments
[00:13] <sbalneav> Especially if, as you're suggesting this is an external portal project where literally *anyone* can potentially create an account.
[01:29] <joerg> sbalneav, anyone?
[01:30] <joerg> sbalneav, I can't see your point. the user DB is ldap based. that means, slapd is responsible to give users and groups previleges
[01:31] <joerg> sbalneav, a user has credentials and he will bind to LDAP with his own DN
[01:31] <joerg> and slapd will either say: yes, you are authorized to modify the user tree or no, you aren't.
[01:32] <joerg> neither the webserver (which is just acting as ldap client) nor the ldap server run as root afaik
[01:33] <joerg> apart from that I don't plan to use pam_ldap for ssh or anyother login services
[01:35] <joerg> the local computer center here installs servers in the schools, but none of the teachers or students does ever get the root password, not even the headmaster has it.
[02:22] <rhce7320> q/quit
[02:25] <sbalneav> There's a difference between binding to ldap, and entering new dn's
[02:25] <sbalneav> if you're not planning on using pam_ldap, how are people going to log in on the lab?
[02:45] <joerg> sbalneav, hmm? they don't need to login to the server.
[02:46] <sbalneav> Well, they do if they're in a lab setting
[02:47] <sbalneav> either full fledged workstations connected via libpam_ldap, or in an LTSP thin client lab.
[02:48] <joerg> why?
[02:49] <joerg> the workstations logon to nothing here :P
[02:50] <sbalneav> That's not how most schools do it.
[02:50] <joerg> 190 out of 200 do it here
[02:51] <sbalneav> Most of them are creating users on the Edubuntu machine, either locally, or in ldap.
[02:51] <joerg> why should anybody need to set up auth stuff in a primary school?
[02:51] <joerg> students dont even have accounts there
[02:51] <sbalneav> lots do
[02:51] <joerg> not here
[02:51] <joerg> who should do that?
[02:51] <sbalneav> yeah, and?
[02:51] <joerg> the two full time admins we have?
[02:52] <sbalneav> So, the entire world to switch over to the way joerg does things? :)
[02:52] <joerg> setting up that stuff for over 200 schools? lol
[02:52] <sbalneav> lots of schools already have huge login databases in AD
[02:52] <sbalneav> We need to interact with that.
[02:52] <joerg> no, but joerg get's paid by an organization that doesn't care how the rest of the world would like to have it :P
[02:53] <sbalneav> Ok, so that's fine.
[02:53] <sbalneav> Do whatever you like then.
[02:53] <joerg> lol
[02:53] <sbalneav> No one's stopping you here :)
[02:53] <joerg> I just can't provide them with solution that dont fit.
[02:53] <joerg> they want to manage the users in a webbased app
[02:53] <joerg> because that is the police.....not giving them the root password. no shell access at all.
[02:54] <sbalneav> Ok, but that's not Edubuntu's target audience today.
[02:54] <joerg> they can setup some edubuntu ltsp stuff if they have somebody who knows how to do it and do whatever they like...
[02:54] <joerg> well....
[02:55] <joerg> so edubuntu cannot be used to provide file access, mail server and a web portal to a school? :P
[02:55] <sbalneav> Well, edubuntu's focused on the desktop
[02:56] <joerg> oh, I thought it was focused on both....
[02:56] <sbalneav> I.e. providing desktop apps like Kalzium, gimp, etc. for students to use.
[02:56] <sbalneav> You're just wanting a pure web portal with absolutely no desktop
[02:57] <sbalneav> No, today we're mainly focused on providing an educational desktop.
[02:57] <joerg> well web apps are kind of desktop apps :)
[02:57] <sbalneav> They are, and the only thing we're debating about is where userid's get created.
[02:57] <joerg> hmm, and what distribution should I use if I want to provide the server part? :)
[02:58] <joerg> yes, and what would you do in my case? :P
[02:59] <joerg> how else shall they manage users in the setups they have?
[02:59] <joerg> the only thing I can guarantee is that they mostly have windows clients and if I am lucky a more or less recent web browser.
[02:59] <sbalneav> make your web based user id creation a module that can be unloaded, so that if Edubuntu ships it, we can create a desktop app to create the userids
[03:00] <joerg> all modules will be unloadable :P
[03:00] <sbalneav> We're not catering to people with windows desktops, we're catering to people who want to *replace* windows desktops with edubuntu desktops.
[03:01] <sbalneav> So, then, nobody's saying you can't have web based account creation.
[03:01] <joerg> ok, then I am gonna tell them they shall use win 2003 servers and edubuntu desktops *lol*
[03:01] <sbalneav> All I'm saying is, we wouldn't *ship* web based account creation on the edubuntu dvd
[03:01] <sbalneav> Dude, you came in *here* looking for help
[03:02] <joerg> sbalneav, because you don't let your users decide themselves. very nice :P
[03:02] <sbalneav> We can't ship everything, and nothing says they can't install it after the fact.
[03:03] <sbalneav> But just like Ubuntu picks and chooses what apps they ship on their cd, we do the same.
[03:03] <joerg> sbalneav, well, that's true, but not including it in the repository would be wrong :P
[03:03] <sbalneav> I didn't say it couldn't be in the repo
[03:03] <sbalneav> I said it wouldn't ship and install by default ON THE DVD
[03:03] <sbalneav> obviously, after the fact, people can do whatever they'd like.
[03:04] <joerg> sure
[03:04] <joerg> so ldap-account-manager is not included in the dvd? :)
[03:04] <joerg> it is not that bad btw. - just a bit overkill for teachers
[03:05] <sbalneav> yes, the ldap-account-manager web page wouldn't be included on the dvd, we'd write/ship something similar that would run from System->Administration menu.
[03:05] <sbalneav> After the fact, once someone installs edubuntu, if they want to apt-get web-ldap-account-manager, they're welcome to.
[03:06] <joerg> sbalneav, well, but once again.....what did I get wrong about it? :)
[03:06] <joerg> as far as I understand ldap, you bind to it with a DN
[03:06] <joerg> then you can do whatever operations you want
[03:06] <joerg> at least I thought you can add user records then when you have the right to?
[03:07] <sbalneav> No, that's not how LDAP works.
[03:07] <joerg> or is there only one root/admin-dn that can do it?
[03:07] <sbalneav> The only way you can add new DN's is via the admin login.
[03:08] <joerg> ok, then you are unfortunately right that it is not the best idea :P
[03:08] <joerg> it is actually a very bad thing for schools.....that single admin concept
[03:08] <sbalneav> Doesn't invalidate the rest of your ideas though
[03:09] <sbalneav> The rest of what you want to do's quite good.
[03:09] <joerg> thanks ;)
[03:09] <sbalneav> You were debating about 2% of what you want to do :)
[03:09] <sbalneav> the other 98%'s great.
[03:09] <sbalneav> Like I say, what we need now is a spec.
[03:09] <joerg> anyway....that is a pain :P
[03:09] <joerg> I really thought ldap was different
[03:10] <joerg> I'd like to have a group "usercreators" which I just give the right to add and modify these ldap records
[03:10] <sbalneav> LDAP's a royal Pain.  I've worked with it for years and years.
[03:10] <joerg> we can't give them the root pw
[03:10] <joerg> but they need to create users
[03:10] <sbalneav> I was the person who added shadow password support for ldap to libpam_ldap, years ago.
[03:11] <joerg> mhhm
[03:11] <sbalneav> but creating users is simple, and can be handled any number of ways.
[03:11] <joerg> could we set a kind of user management daemon on top?
[03:11] <sbalneav> Lets concentrate on the rest of it for now, and fill that peice in towards the end.
[03:11] <sbalneav> :)
[03:11] <joerg> lol
[03:12] <joerg> I just wonder how to do it in a secure way.
[03:12] <joerg> even with your gnome app it would be hard
[03:12] <sbalneav> Well, the gnome app auth's against policykit or the like.
[03:13] <sbalneav> What we should do (and not today, I'm up to my neck in another issue right ATM) is sit down, and I can help you map out a spec on launchpad.
[03:14] <sbalneav> once we've got a "rough" outline of what you'd like to do, then we can set up a repo, try to gather some people to the project via the mailing list, etc.
[03:15] <sbalneav> I can set aside a couple of hours for this tomorrow evening (for me, it's currently 9:14 pm here), you're in de, right?  So it's probably mid afternoon?
[03:15] <sbalneav> no wait
[03:15] <joerg> lol no
[03:15] <sbalneav> Iim going the wroing
[03:15] <sbalneav> way
[03:15] <sbalneav> Very late there
[03:15] <sbalneav> like what, 3am?
[03:15] <joerg> fuckin late, yeah
[03:15] <joerg> should go to bed :D
[03:15] <sbalneav> heh, yeah
[03:16] <sbalneav> Ping me when you see me on tomorrow morning in about 12 hours.
[03:16] <sbalneav> We can write up a spec.
[03:16] <joerg> that would be cool, thx
[03:16] <sbalneav> NP
[03:16] <sbalneav> Have a good evening.
[03:16] <joerg> I already played around with launchpad
[03:17] <joerg> create a project "myserv" ;)
[03:17] <joerg> and uploaded an empty django project
[03:17] <joerg> works quite well....
[03:17] <joerg> sbalneav, thx....have a better one :P
[03:18] <sbalneav> Guten tag
[03:18] <joerg> neee
[03:18] <joerg> gute nacht :P
[03:18] <sbalneav> ah, yeh
[03:18] <sbalneav> Also, look for ogra
[03:19] <sbalneav> in this channel
[03:19] <sbalneav> he's also de
[03:20] <sbalneav> So, on a related note, to anyone else who's listening
[03:20] <sbalneav> read my post on edubuntu-devel
[03:20] <sbalneav> My mind is *BLOWN*
[03:20] <sbalneav> gconf with an LDAP backend makes me oh-so-happy.
[03:21] <sbalneav> I didn't even know you could extend gconf that way.
[03:22] <Ahmuck-Jr> sbalneav: good work on LDAP
[03:29] <joerg> do US schools have paid admins? ;) just curious....
[03:30] <sbalneav> Some do, lots don't
[03:30] <sbalneav> I know lots of Canadian school divisions do.
[03:30] <joerg> hmm, ok....
[03:30] <joerg> we have got two for 200 schools :D as I said.
[03:30] <sbalneav> I also know most brazillian ones don't
[03:31] <joerg> so everything is just about saving work :P
[03:31] <joerg> sbalneav, a collegue was at a conference some time ago where the guys from munich presented their IT concept
[03:31] <sbalneav> I'm just looking through this code.  It's like, 800 odd lines.
[03:32] <sbalneav> it's nothing.
[03:32] <joerg> we have got the whole region here, some schools are one hour drive away from "the base" :)
[03:32] <sbalneav> And it basically means you DON'T have to configure evolution for someone.
[03:32] <joerg> they have got about 200 schools as well, but 20 full time admins....
[03:32] <sbalneav> When you create their ldap DN, you just populate a couple of schema keys, and evolution just starts up, *ready to rock*
[03:32] <joerg> and at the conference they told us what a smart concept they have and that they only need 20 people
[03:33] <joerg> well, my collegue raised his hand and just said: well, we are doing the same thing with two of them :)
[03:33] <sbalneav> heh, good for you
[03:33] <sbalneav> that probably set them on their ears.
[03:33] <joerg> but munich is a snobbish city you even know in the US :P
[03:34] <joerg> while this countryside is nothing that anybody gives a damn about :)
[03:34] <joerg> yeah indeed :)
[03:35] <joerg> but they still wanna shorten it more here
[03:36] <joerg> reducing them to half time jobs
[03:39] <joerg> does unattended updating work well?
[03:39] <joerg> I mean we cant push apt on 200 servers every now and then....
[03:40] <sbalneav> Well, unattended updating works as well as it does in debian.  As well as it does in any Linux distro.
[03:41] <sbalneav> Which is to say "Perfectly, until it breaks" :)
[03:41] <sbalneav> For the most part, I've had no trouble.
[03:41] <joerg> yeah, that's my fear
[03:41] <joerg> that proprietary solution had the advantage that we could blame somebody else :P
[03:42] <sbalneav> Yeah, you can *blame* someone else, but I bet you still had to fix it :)
[03:42] <joerg> the proprietary "IServ" is a debian actually, preconfigured and some crappy php portal on it.
[03:42] <joerg> with heaps of root exploits I guess
[03:43] <joerg> because they do e.g. passwd/shadow user management with php scripts :D
[03:43] <sbalneav> Well, apt usually does a pretty darned good job of keeping things working, so long as you don't have a broken package.
[03:43] <joerg> and, well, they have a test server,checking updates there first
[03:43] <joerg> before passing that through to their own package repository.
[03:43] <sbalneav> yeah, that would be the best way to go.
[03:44] <sbalneav> You can also use "expect" behind the scenes to automate things.
[03:44] <joerg> have to have a look at it...thx
[03:44] <joerg> my idea would be to do it in a semi autmoatic way
[03:45] <sbalneav> I automate my updates where I work.
[03:45] <joerg> having one playground server to test it....and then somehow giving the command to update to everybody...
[03:45] <joerg> we can't host the whole ubuntu stuff I am afraid...
[03:45] <sbalneav> I have them download automatically, so they're already on the box, but not install.
[03:45] <joerg> so they have to download it from the original sources
[03:45] <sbalneav> then I have some expect scripts to actually trigger the updates on everyones box.
[03:45] <joerg> ah, that sounds good....and how do you push the actual install?
[03:46] <sbalneav> The debs we handle with an apt-cache.
[03:46] <sbalneav> so the first box that gets the update primes the cache, and then everyone else gets the update from the cache.
[03:46] <sbalneav> All of that's pretty easy to set up.
[03:46] <joerg> wouldn't make sense here
[03:46] <joerg> because of poor bandwidth
[03:47] <joerg> our apt-cache would have a dsl line connecting it to the others
[03:47] <joerg> at 192 kbit upload :)
[03:48] <sbalneav> ah, yeah
[03:49] <joerg> if we wouldn't have that bottleneck, we wouldn't have servers in the schools at all.
[03:49] <joerg> maybe in ten years or so.
[03:50] <joerg> having all the stuff on S3 :)
[03:50] <joerg> btw. does anybody provide the same stuff amazon S3 does for e-mail?
[03:51] <sbalneav> I don't know.  In my line of work, I can't do anything cloud related.
[03:52] <joerg> mhhm....pitty
[03:52] <sbalneav> My full time job's as a Systems Admin for Legal Aid Manitoba.
[03:52] <sbalneav> Storing anything client related on the cloud's.... frowned upon :)
[03:52] <joerg> he he....
[03:53] <joerg> well, that's the nice thing about the good old schools
[03:53] <joerg> you don't really have to put much effort in security and safety
[03:53] <joerg> because nobody wants their data :)
[03:56] <joerg> sbalneav, I'd like to set all the MX records of these 200 domains to mx.amazonaws.com and get rid of all the trouble :)
[04:00] <sbalneav> heh
[04:02] <joerg> sbalneav, mail is a pain....all that spam filtering and virus scanning.....
[04:07] <rhce7320>  /quit
[04:29] <sbalneav> Night all!
[13:48] <dgroos> Good Morning
[13:50] <dgroos> What are good keywords to search on google for info on connecting a regular desktop to my (at present only thin client)network and get the list of users from my server.
[13:51] <dgroos> I've spent some 20+ minutes searching for this info! along with browsing likely system pref and admin tools on my desktop system.
[13:54] <vmlintu> you mean the users listed in /etc/passwd?
[13:58] <highvoltage> hey dgroos
[13:59] <highvoltage> dgroos: you want to authenticate against your ltsp server from a standalone fat-client machine?
[13:59] <dgroos> vmlintu: yes!
[13:59] <dgroos> high hivoltage!
[14:00] <vmlintu> and you want to have the same users on the regular desktop?
[14:00] <dgroos> highvoltage: exactly.
[14:00] <highvoltage> dgroos: although not as secure or flexible as ldap, you could use NIS+ for that
[14:00] <dgroos> vmlintu: not sure what you mean by, 'same users on the regular desktop'?
[14:01] <dgroos> NIS+?
[14:01] <dgroos> I'll check into it.  Thanks!
[14:01] <vmlintu> dgroos: do you want that all the users who have accounts on the server can login to the desktop with same username/password?
[14:02] <dgroos> vmlintu: Exactly.
[14:03] <joerg> morning :)
[14:04] <joerg> anybody tried gosa? http://gosa-project.org
[14:04] <joerg> sbalneav, hey....I am awake ;)
[14:04] <dgroos> morning joerg
[14:05] <joerg> I haven't tried it yet, but seems that it is a themeable web based ldap manager that has ACL support
[14:05] <joerg> that you can give teachers only certain permissions....
[14:21] <vmlintu> dgroos: nis, ldap or passwd synchronisation some of the options
[14:28] <dgroos> vmlintu: I've been reading some.  Looks like nis+ and LDAP are kind of difficult.  Will passwd synchronisation allow for students to access their networked home directories?
[14:30] <vmlintu> dgroos: if you use plain nfs, it should work
[14:30] <joerg> dgroos, why not? :P
[14:31] <joerg> vmlintu, hey....sorry, didn't answer you mail yet :)
[14:31] <vmlintu> joerg: hi
[14:32] <joerg> dgroos, ldap is not a big deal at all :P install slapd, install migrationtools and that's it :)
[14:32] <dgroos> vmlintu: I'll check up on nfs :)  Thanks for your help, I'll be back on this job tomorrow, same time, same channel :)
[14:33] <vmlintu> dgroos: if you use nfs3, you have to have same uids on both ends
[14:33] <dgroos> joerg: seems like the config of these may not be so trivial...
[14:34] <vmlintu> joerg: I just noticed that with lucid you have to do some configuration before slapd works like it used to..
[14:34] <joerg> dgroos, mhhm...I have set up ldap servers in schools several times....there's not much to config
[14:35] <joerg> vmlintu, dunno....didn't check out lucid so far.
[14:35] <vmlintu> joerg: have you used /etc/ldap/slapd.conf to configure it?
[14:35] <dgroos> vmlintu: you mean I need to import the list of users onto the local system, then the process you mentioned will synchronize their user info and as long as the uid are same to start with, users should be able to access their home folders on the server?
[14:35] <joerg> but anyway, I'd always recommend using ldap instead of hacking some rsync passwd/shadow scripts....:)
[14:36] <joerg> take 30 minutes more to set up ldap
[14:36] <joerg> and save a lot of time and work in the future
[14:36] <dgroos> joerg:  I'll look more into LDAP then, thanks.
[14:36] <joerg> e.g. when integrating new machines, services and applications
[14:36] <vmlintu> dgroos: passwd synchronization needs quite a bit of hacking, there's no ready solution for it, I think
[14:37] <dgroos> vmlintu: thanks for your insight.
[14:37] <joerg> vmlintu, yes, I think so....
[14:37] <dgroos> Have a great day folks!
[14:37] <vmlintu> joerg: the new ubuntu packages really make you to use the cn=config model
[14:38] <vmlintu> joerg: I've been trying to avoid it until now, but finally went through it..
[14:40] <vmlintu> I couldn't find any existing documentation on it that would work for lucid as is. The documents for hardy/jaunty/karmic do not work anymore for all the things
[14:40] <mhall119|work> are there any good GUI tools for managing user acounts on LDAP?
[14:41] <vmlintu> I just finished writing about the steps needed to get basic OpenLDAP running on lucid alpha2 here: http://www.opinsys.fi/en/setting-up-openldap-on-ubuntu-10-04-alpha2
[14:43] <vmlintu> mhall119|work: Not sure about GUI tools, I've been using mostly web based applications..
[14:44] <mhall119|work> okay, what's a good web-based one?
[14:45] <joerg> vmlintu, looks good. thx. but why did they make it that complicated? :P
[14:46] <vmlintu> joerg: the cn=config model gives you dynamic configuration, so I guess that's the reason
[14:46] <joerg> I haven't setup slapd for ages, but after all I remember I just had to enter the root dn (dc=myschool,dc=edu) and have a look at slapd.conf to include the right schemes....
[14:46] <vmlintu> joerg: I'm writing now a script to take care of the steps listed
[14:46] <joerg> and then get the users and stuff with migrationtools
[14:48] <joerg> vmlintu, btw. I will get a demo karmic server.....to play around with all that stuff....
[14:49] <vmlintu> joerg: you mean the user management stuff?
[14:49] <joerg> vmlintu, I mean everything
[14:50] <joerg> that is related to the portal project
[14:55] <vmlintu> joerg: how much you have played with CAS?
[14:56] <joerg> vmlintu, not at all :)
[14:56] <joerg> vmlintu, just know it from the user's perspective and from the docs
[14:57] <vmlintu> joerg: which CAS server you plan using?
[14:57] <joerg> vmlintu, I only know the yale cas server....
[14:57] <joerg> that is now developed by jasig
[14:58] <joerg> the thing is: for web based single sign on, there's shibboleth, openid and cas
[14:58] <vmlintu> joerg: ok.. I've been using rubycas-server for couple of things in the past
[14:58] <joerg> cas is the only one that has pam modules being able to authenticate services like imap, ssh, sftp as well.
[14:58] <vmlintu> oauth works also for authentication
[15:00] <joerg> vmlintu, and that works with pam as well?
[15:00] <vmlintu> do you mean rubycas-server or oauth?
[15:03] <joerg> vmlintu, oauth
[15:04] <joerg> vmlintu, the thing is: the webmail module must access the imap server and the homedir the sftp server. using the oauth/cas ticket they already have.
[15:05] <vmlintu> joerg: oauth is used for web applications.. For example Twitter uses it to authenticate the REST requests to their API
[15:05] <joerg> well, that is nice.
[15:05] <joerg> but doesn't make sense if the web applications needs to check user's mails using IMAP
[15:06] <vmlintu> I wouldn't try to use it for IMAP
[15:06] <joerg> he he
[15:06] <joerg> so the only thing left ofer is cas
[15:06] <joerg> over
[15:06] <vmlintu> I haven't used cas for anything else than web sites
[15:07] <joerg> yes
[15:07] <joerg> and? :P
[15:07] <joerg> we are talking about web apps, aren't we?
[15:07] <joerg> the users will not use cas to authenticate their thunderbird against imap :P
[15:08] <joerg> but the web mail will to avoid asking the user for a password again.
[15:08] <vmlintu> are you going to proxy the cas ticket to the imap server?
[15:08] <joerg> yes
[15:08] <joerg> the imap server will use pam_cas to validate it
[15:09] <joerg> configured as "auth sufficient" in the pam config
[15:09] <vmlintu> I've never used the proxying features of cas, just plain web authentication
[15:09] <joerg> yeah, because you don't have backends that need auth again
[15:09] <joerg> vmlintu, but zimbra should do that, shouldn't it?
[15:10] <vmlintu> never tried using cas with zimbra
[15:11] <joerg> vmlintu, well I thought the finnish open school project does it? :P
[15:11] <vmlintu> it doesn't use cas that I know of..
[15:11] <joerg> mhhm
[15:11] <joerg> what does it use then? ;)
[15:12] <vmlintu> I'm not actually involved with that project, so I don't know all the details, though..
[15:12] <joerg> mhhm.....okay
[15:12] <joerg> at least they are using some single sign on system
[15:13] <joerg> that sends me that nice message saying "auth failed" when I click the link....
[15:13] <vmlintu> yes, it has some other sso system for zimbra
[15:13] <joerg> mhhm
[15:14] <vmlintu> well, I need to get kerberos working on the lucid setup next..
[15:14] <joerg> I just wonder what kind of user I am after registering :)
[15:14] <joerg> I can login to the elgg thing
[15:14] <joerg> very confusing.....as I thought there'd be one single user DB....
[15:15] <vmlintu> I'll probably see the guys who did it on Friday
[16:47] <sbalneav> Morning all
[16:50] <HedgeMage> Hi, sbalneav
[16:52] <sbalneav> Morning ShrubberySorceress
[17:31] <Ahmuck> how do i get a .jar file to work?
[17:36] <Lns_> hey sbalneav
[17:37] <sbalneav> Ahmuck: well, depends.  Is it a library?
[17:37] <sbalneav> usually, it needs to go somewhere in java's library search path
[17:38] <sbalneav> Soooooo, I hear Ubuntu's changing the search engine to a bad one.  Wonder what file I have to edit to change it back to the good one?
[17:44] <alkisg> Hmmm you might need sabayon for this... ;)
[17:45] <alkisg> (I think it's in ubufox)
[17:49] <sbalneav> UnFORtunately, firefox doesn't support gconf, so it's hard to get things going for firefox under sabayon :(
[17:49] <sbalneav> Sigh, I need to fix that somehow.
[17:50] <Ahmuck> search enging?
[17:50] <Ahmuck> to a bad one?
[17:50] <Ahmuck> what search engine
[17:56] <Ahmuck> is there a way to start it from the command line?
[17:57] <Ahmuck> er, the .jar file
[17:59] <Ahmuck> http://www.chibipaint.com/downloads.html - i'm trying to get this to run
[18:14] <Lns> sbalneav, you think firefox.js would have what's necessary?
[18:14] <Lns> Ahmuck, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2010-January/030065.html
[18:15]  * Lns wonders what could be integrated into firefox-gnome-support
[18:16] <Lns> With simply changing the homepage globally for FF, I can imagine it's no small feat. I never *could* get that to work correctly, had to install ubufox for 8.10 to even get close to a google.com homepage for everyone by default. Ugh.
[18:17] <Lns> Spent *years* trying to figure that out.
[18:17] <sbalneav> heh, "Two easily discoverable clicks" == "two easily discoverable clicks for the technically savvy, 185 phonecalls of "How come search doesn't go to google anymore" for the rest of us."
[18:19]  * Lns nods
[18:21] <Lns> hate to sound anti-M$^HS but jeez...yahoo? because of revenue sharing? Is ubuntu really that dependent on revenue? I'd hate to see it if Canonical runs out of money :(
[18:23] <joerg__> sbalneav, hey....give me a shout whenever you like to help with the spec ;) thx
[18:28] <alkisg> Meeting in 30' ?
[18:32] <sbalneav> alkisg: Think so.
[18:33] <sbalneav> joerg__: Yeah, I'll see if I've got a few after the meeing.  Todays becoming busier than I wanted.
[18:34] <joerg__> sbalneav, take your time ;) btw. do you know the gosa project?
[18:52] <stgraber> meeting in 8 minutes
[18:59] <stgraber> sbalneav, alkisg, Lns, highvoltage, nixternal, HedgeMage, whoever I forgot: Meeting !
[18:59] <alkisg> sbalneav, highvoltage, stgraber, Lns, nixternal, HedgeMage and all, meeting :)
[18:59] <alkisg> Heh :)
[18:59] <stgraber> I was first ;)
[18:59] <Lns> already in the chan ;)
[19:00] <dhillon-v10> highvoltage: hi there :)
[19:01] <alkisg> dhillon-v10: meeting in #ubuntu-meeting
[19:02] <dhillon-v10> alkisg: almost forgot about that, sorry :)
[19:09] <nixternal> hola
[20:32] <Lns> Wow, Sugar is surprisingly useful on 9.10
[20:50] <Lns> stgraber, I've installed sugar packages on my 9.10 install here at home and it seems to work great (used instructions from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu ) - Lucid looks like it has 0.88 already packaged according to that site. I'm curious, what stands in the way of including this in edubuntu lucid? testing?
[20:53] <Lns> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Debian is Debian page from sugarlabs.org, to see the differences between the two - you mentioned that in the meeting
[21:04] <highvoltage> eek, sorry about that
[21:08] <highvoltage> sorry I somehow lost a bit track of time
[21:08] <highvoltage> stgraber, Lns, sbalneav: did someone take notes or can I do it from the logs?
[21:09] <Lns> hey highvoltage - i didn't take notes myself, no
[21:10] <stgraber> highvoltage: I have the actions noted here but not actual meeting notes
[21:19] <joerg__> vmlintu, hey....are u already writing a script for easy slapd setup in lucid? btw. karmic has the cn=config stuff as well...


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[00:02] <tsimonq2> infinity: There. Poked in every place I can.
[00:03] <tsimonq2> (Meaning, where I can post announcements ... :P)
[00:07] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Since infinity is in the air right now, these links are dead: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/389/builds/170821/downloads
[00:08] <tsimonq2> Should I expect them to appear Shortly?
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[00:59] <ErichEickmeyer> That’s my cue, but I’m stuck at work. I’ll alert the crew when I get home.
[01:03] <slangasek> tsimonq2: apparently, since the links are live as of this moment
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[01:13] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Indeed.
[01:17]  * tsimonq2 sighs
[01:17] <tsimonq2> Expect patches for bug 1761592.
[01:18] <ubot5`> bug 1761592 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu bionic slideshow's left and right arrow buttons use the same transition" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761592
[01:23] <tsimonq2> And, Kubuntu has a UX flaw.
[01:23] <tsimonq2> (In the installer.)
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[02:02] <valorie> tsimonq2: you are writing this patch?
[02:02] <valorie> if so, \o/
[02:02] <tsimonq2> Yep.
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[03:30] <sforshee> slangasek, infinity: all bionic kernels have been respun and are building, I'll copy them out first thing in the morning
[03:57] <slangasek> sforshee: ok, thanks for the update
[04:32] <tsimonq2> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubiquity/remove-encrypt_home-qt/+merge/343759
[04:32] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I also have a ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu MP in progress.
[04:51] <tsimonq2> slangasek: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/lp-1761592/+merge/343760
[04:51] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Can I please get those two merged/sponsored/accepted before the release? :)
[04:52] <valorie> would be nice to test 'em.....
[04:53] <tsimonq2> I did.
[04:53] <tsimonq2> :P
[04:55] <valorie> well, I mean, to test the installer
[04:55] <valorie> silly
[04:56] <valorie> in the next respin
[04:56] <tsimonq2> hehe
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[05:49] <slangasek> tsimonq2: are the kubuntu slideshows translated?  isn't this going to regress localization for the release?
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[05:53] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Punctuation is trivial enough that the translated meanings of things shouldn't change.
[05:55] <slangasek> tsimonq2: except it invalidates the mapping of source strings to translations; see any of po/kubuntu/*.po
[05:55] <slangasek> none of the software knows that the translation is still valid because it's "just" a punctuation change
[05:55] <tsimonq2> slangasek: OK; I'll revert.
[05:56]  * tsimonq2 *really* wishes people in Kubuntu would have paid more close attention... oh well
[05:58] <tsimonq2> slangasek: .
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[06:11] <tsimonq2> Thanks.
[06:40] <tsimonq2> slangasek: (If you're still around) what about Ubiquity? ;)
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[07:57] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: Bug 1766047 seems to be an interesting one.
[07:57] <ubot5`> bug 1766047 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Impossible to choose a language when booting in UEFI, as Ubiquity never opens due to problematic grub config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1766047
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[10:22] <cjwatson> infinity,slangasek: I've committed a ubiquity translations update to bzr.  Somebody else can upload if they think it appropriate ...
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[12:06] <sforshee> there's also some obselete ones in there from friday
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[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected linux-raspi2 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1008.9]
[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected linux-meta-gcp [sync] (bionic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>4.6]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-5-cross [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [33ubuntu2]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-5-cross [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [33ubuntu2]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-5-cross [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [33ubuntu2]
[16:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [amd64] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [i386] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [s390x] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [arm64] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libheif [armhf] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.1.0-2] (no packageset)
[16:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: buku (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.6-1 => 3.7-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted buku [sync] (bionic-proposed) [3.7-1]
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lensfun (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.3.2-3 => 0.3.2-4] (kubuntu) (sync)
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libheif [i386] (bionic-proposed) [1.1.0-2]
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: minissdpd (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.5.20161216-2 => 1.5.20180223-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: telegram-desktop (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.2.15-1build1 => 1.2.17-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted minissdpd [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.5.20180223-1]
[17:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted telegram-desktop [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.2.17-1]
[17:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: xmlbeans (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.6.0+dfsg-2 => 2.6.0+dfsg-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xmlbeans [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.6.0+dfsg-3]
[17:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lemonldap-ng (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.9.15-1 => 1.9.16-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lemonldap-ng [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.9.16-2]
[17:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libhtml-wikiconverter-markdown-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.06-1 => 0.06-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libhtml-wikiconverter-markdown-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.06-2]
[17:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libmarc-transform-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.003006-1 => 0.003006-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libmarc-transform-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.003006-2]
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libdata-format-html-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.5.1-1 => 0.5.1-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libdata-format-html-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.5.1-2]
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libnet-dns-zonefile-fast-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.24-2 => 1.24-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libxml-structured-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.01-2 => 1.01-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libnet-dns-zonefile-fast-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.24-3]
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libxml-structured-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.01-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-19.20] (core, kernel)
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-19.20] (core, kernel)
[18:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: flightgear-data (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:2017.3.1+dfsg-1 => 1:2018.1.1+dfsg-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[18:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted flightgear-data [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1:2018.1.1+dfsg-1]
[22:19] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: Could I please get that Ubiquity MP reviewed?
[22:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pidgin-gnome-keyring (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.0-1 => 2.0-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libgstreamer1-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.003-2 => 0.003-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libgstreamer1-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.003-3]
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pidgin-gnome-keyring [sync] (bionic-proposed) [2.0-2]
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libmodule-install-extratests-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.008-1 => 0.008-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libmodule-install-trustmetayml-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.003-2 => 0.003-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libmoosex-mungehas-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.007-2 => 0.007-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libmodule-install-extratests-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.008-2]
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libmoosex-mungehas-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.007-3]
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libmodule-install-trustmetayml-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.003-3]
[23:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libnetapp-perl (bionic-proposed/universe) [500.002-1 => 500.002-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libnetapp-perl [sync] (bionic-proposed) [500.002-2]
[23:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python-changelog (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.3.5-1 => 0.3.5-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-changelog [sync] (bionic-proposed) [0.3.5-2]