[07:15] <funkyHat> firestarter shouldn't have to be run as root to see the GUI. it's annoying that it does
[07:15] <GlenC> uses a pII
[07:15] <bpuccio> any jabber users here?
[07:15] <GlenC> I'll try xfce4
[07:15] <ce33na> I need to add a user to the admin group. I don't recall ever having to do this. Any one have a suggestion?
[07:15] <GlenC> bpuccio, don't come to irc looking for people to im
[07:15] <funkyHat> ce33na, use the user manger graphical UI
[07:16] <persia> ce33na: `sudo vi /etc/group`, and append the username to the desired group.
[07:16] <CypherNix> funkyHat, exactly...I wouldn't be in this mess if that wasn't the case. Well that and the fact I made a huge error.
[07:16] <Coyctecm> hmm....I did not manage to disable touchpad..is there anyway to get the button in keyboard to work? It's button for disabling touchpad
[07:16] <brenner> ompaul: OOI, does fluxbox set itself up nicely like xfce? (i.e. adds itself to the sessions menu, gives you a workable desktop on first run?)
[07:16] <ce33na> persia: thats what I was looking for...thanks
[07:16] <persia> ce33na: use funkyHat's solution - it's easier.
[07:16] <funkyHat> or do that ;)
[07:16] <bpuccio> GlenC: sorry, wasn't looking for a buddy to talk with, just wanted to see if my ubuntu jabber server was properly setup to talk to other people on other jabber servers
[07:16] <funkyHat> ce33na, system > administration > users and groups
[07:16] <bpuccio> GlenC: I figured with a few hundred people in here, someone might be willing to spend 3 seconds to let me double check
[07:16] <ce33na> persia: Im an old user. I prefer the hard way. I felt stupid having to ask something so simple.
[07:17] <bpuccio> GlenC: sorry if you think I'm attempting to do otherwise
[07:17] <ce33na> thanks guys
[07:17] <ompaul> brenner, been a while I think it is useful from the off let me check
[07:18] <CypherNix> funkyHat, I started downloading the LiveCD do I need any more pointers as to how to fix this, or will I be able to do it on my own?
[07:18] <GregAsche> persia: back, I didn't get it working though
[07:19] <funkyHat> CypherNix, as far as i'm aware, you should just be able to mount the drive (it may have an automount set by the liveCD, which makes it even easier), and edit the file
[07:19] <ce33na> persia: vi works like a charm
[07:20] <GlenC> ok, I apt-getted xfce4, now how do I use it?
[07:20] <funkyHat> CypherNix, you can always come on here from the liveCD if you have any trouble :)
[07:20] <persia> GregAsche: No, the reboot wouldn't work.  There's a thread in the ubuntu forums that suggests changing a couple settings in the config file, but it didn't work for the person reporting the problem there.  As you've maybe not started esd yet this boot, is your sound working again?
[07:20] <brenner> GlenC: select it from the sessions menu at login
[07:20] <GregAsche> persia: no
[07:20] <CypherNix> funkyHat, sounds easy enough, almost to easy. I mean anyone can use that to add themselfs as admin, well with physical access.
[07:20] <GregAsche> can I pm you?
[07:21] <CypherNix> funkyHat, I have a feeling I will be back ;)
[07:21] <Gnonthgol> I am having problems with python when using hoary and debian packages
[07:21] <JDahl> anyone knows why matplotlib is not listed in Breezy? Are there specific problems with it (or the packages Tritium made), or do maintainers need a helping hand with it? IMO, it's the best 2D plotting library for python (and relatively complicated to compile from source because of the many dependencies)
[07:21] <funkyHat> CypherNix, unless you change your boot sequence and set a bios password ;)
[07:21] <QMario> Is ompaul still here?
[07:21] <dwerf> what is multiverse?
[07:22] <nickrud> !tell dwerf about components
[07:22] <CypherNix> funkyHat, Of course ;) Well 45 mins and the download should be complete. I'll see your around then. Thank you very much.
[07:22] <funkyHat> np :)
[07:22] <QMario> Ompaul and everyone else, do you know where I can get a cheap Intel Pentium III Processor?
[07:23] <brenner> QMario: *cough* you do know people live in different places from you, right? :)
[07:23] <Gnonthgol> QMario: ebay?
[07:23] <GlenC> how do I get rid of the password and username for samba?
[07:23] <QMario> Brenner, do you have a "cold"? ;)
[07:24] <QMario> Brenner, sorry. I meant on the Internet.
[07:24] <QMario> !Botsnack
[07:24] <ubotu> thanks qmario :)
[07:24] <QMario> Ubotu, tell Seveas about Botsnack.
[07:24] <brenner> QMario: thought you might like some phlegm
[07:25] <ompaul> brenner, after some messing around I conclude that it is not great off the blocks but you can do some nice things to it  (flux)
[07:25] <QMario> Brenner, ewww.
[07:25] <brenner> ompaul: in otherwords, needs config? :)
[07:25] <QMario> Ompaul, did you see my question?
[07:25] <dwerf> nickrud > i have all the repositories ticked in synaptic - i just get the message "E: couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:26] <brenner> QMario: why does ompaul get special treatment? :(
[07:26] <brenner> dwerf: did you reload?
[07:26] <ompaul> brenner, that is a nice way of saying it
[07:26] <dwerf> brenner reload what? the tree?
[07:27] <KingsRobot> Hey all, got a bit of a problem - new ubuntu hoary install - everything looks good, except one of my drives from my previous installation is coming of as SFS instead of ext3 - I didn't change the partition tabl, but that sure looks like what happened. Any ideas?
[07:27] <dwerf> brenner > i did
[07:27] <funkyHat> with the reload button in the synaptic window
[07:27] <dwerf> funkyhat > i might have not
[07:27] <QMario> Brenner, he doesn't. You and him are equal. :)
[07:27] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with python when using a debian mirror instead of an ubuntu mirror
[07:27] <QMario> Brenner, I know you saw my question. I just don't know if he saw it. ;)
[07:28] <dwerf> brenner > i did reload
[07:28] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, use an ubuntu mirror then ;)
[07:28] <Gnonthgol> funkyHat: but ubuntu is a bit outdated
[07:28] <ompaul> QMario, vis a pIII no idea, and personally if I was you I would use google or ebay for something like that
[07:29] <brenner> dwerf: in that case, i'd double-check if you have multiverse enabled, 'cos that's where you'll find that package
[07:29] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board?
[07:29] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, you could try compiling, that is probably more likely to work than a package designed for a different distro :)
[07:29] <dwerf> ok
[07:29] <funkyHat> allbeit the distro ubuntu is based on ;)
[07:29] <Drewfus> how can i get video codecs like mpeg
[07:30] <ompaul> KingsRobot, was there something important on it?
[07:30] <QMario> Ompaul, I thought it was a bad idea to buy used processors.
[07:30] <JDahl> Gnonthgol, can't you use backports if you must have something newer than hoary?
[07:30] <QMario> Ompaul, what about this: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=PIII800FC&cm_ven=Froogle&cm_cat=Shopping&cm_ite=total .
[07:30] <QMario> It is used, but too good to be true.
[07:30] <dwerf> brenner > this irc-channel makes me too lazy, i'm noticing - i'm going to read now - thank you so much, brenner!
[07:31] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board? I have a SoundBlaster AWE64!
[07:31] <KingsRobot> ompaul - well, yes - but I have a relatively recent backup.
[07:31] <Gnonthgol> Ubuntu takes the Debian packages and rewrits it a bit and it comed out months behind.
[07:31] <Almindor> hello, I've just updated to BREEZY and my X broke with "cannot initialize core devices: keyboard"
[07:31] <egglet> hi guys, i have a question about CGI with apache2 on ubuntu - i've installed libapache2-mod-perl2 but i can't seem to get scripts to exectute on the server. putting AddHandler in apache2.conf just results in a 403 error
[07:31] <brenner> dwerf: yeah! stop making us do your work. :)
[07:31] <KingsRobot> ompaul - really, I'm more interested finding out how this happened.
[07:31] <Almindor> anyone got anything like this before
[07:31] <Almindor> I'm really lost..
[07:32] <funkyHat> Almindor, read the channel topic
[07:32] <KingsRobot> Is there a way to find the modification date of a partition table?
[07:32] <funkyHat> oh... it's gone :$
[07:32] <brenner> funkyHat: breezy disclaimer's gone :)
[07:32] <Almindor> funkyHat: what with it?
[07:32] <brenner> Almindor: try a reconfigure of the xorg package
[07:32] <Almindor> ok
[07:32] <QMario> Ompaul, are you here?
[07:33] <funkyHat> Almindor, it _used_ to say breezy doesn't work, don't upgrade `_`
[07:33] <QMario>  Ompaul?
[07:33] <ompaul> QMario, what about it, it is not a #ubuntu question, and really you should address your questions to the channel and if someone helps you so be it, if they don't so be it asking someone who helped you before is a and demanding of them a solution for your wants is not fair on them as they may not have an answer for you and a good way to have someone tell you you are about to be put on /ignore
[07:33] <QMario> Sorry, ompaul. :'(
[07:33] <redguy> ah? it's ok to use breezy now?
[07:33] <Almindor> funkyHat: damn, and I just read on a page it worked ok ;(
[07:33] <brenner> redguy: at your own risk
[07:34] <QMario> Almindor, language... :(
[07:34] <funkyHat> Almindor, maybe it does :), try what brenner suggested ^^
[07:34] <Almindor> brenner: can you give me a hint on the package name?
[07:34] <Almindor> QMario: damn? are you a a catholic?
[07:34] <Almindor> brenner: x11, xorg, X11, Xorg I can't find it :)
[07:34] <brenner> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <QMario> Almindor, no.
[07:34] <Almindor> xserver-xorg oh cool :)
[07:35] <[t0rc] > Is there an ubuntu repository that I can download packages for Ubuntu through my browser? (similar to like, Fedora Extras or something)?
[07:35] <JBLoudG20> can anyone help me with lm_sensors? I installed it using synaptec, and I didnt see any errors, but I also cannot find where it was installed, nevermind actually try to run the program
[07:35] <funkyHat> [t0rc] , there is a hoary-extras, that you can add to your sources.list
[07:35] <brenner> JBLoudG20: try typing 'lm_sensors' in a terminal
[07:35] <JBLoudG20> ok ill give that a try
[07:35] <QMario>  /me sings "I'm Sorry" to ompaul.
[07:35] <brenner> note: never used it before
[07:36] <brenner> JBLoudG20: dpkg -L <package> to see what files a package installed
[07:36] <QMario>  /me  sings "I'm Sorry" to ompaul.
[07:36] <[t0rc] > funkyHat: URL?
[07:36] <JBLoudG20> lm_snesors, command not found
[07:36] <Russ1> Hello! Could anyone help me configure my sound board? I have a SoundBlaster AWE64!
[07:36] <funkyHat> !extras
[07:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:36] <funkyHat> [t0rc] , ^ see what ubotu said
[07:36] <onkarshinde> I am unable to find libdvdcss2 on web. Can anyone help me?
[07:37] <JBLoudG20> brenner, do you knwo the name of the lm_sensors package, so I can install it from a terminal
[07:37] <QMario> Ubotu, tell onkarshinde about DVD.
[07:37] <brenner> JBLoudG20: you typed it wrong btw
[07:38] <QMario> Ubotu, tell onkarshinde about hoary-extras.
[07:38] <JBLoudG20> oh i saw the typo, no its right in my terminal
[07:38] <xulMunkee> does anyone know what's required to have the computer automatically mount cdroms and usb drives?
[07:38] <QMario> !libdvdcss
[07:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, QMario
[07:38] <xulMunkee> what packages, i mean
[07:38] <brenner> JBLoudG20: lm-sensors
[07:38] <crimsun_> xulMunkee: works out of the box in Warty, Hoary, and Breezy Colon 3
[07:38] <michele> hello
[07:38] <fdr> hi... can anybody suggest me a good GUI front-end for gpg supported by ubuntu? thank you!
[07:38] <QMario> Hello, xulMunkee.
[07:38] <brenner> JBLoudG20: apt-cache search <keywords> to find stuff
[07:38] <funkyHat> xulMunkee, they should be included in the base set of packages
[07:38] <crimsun_> Colony^
[07:39] <michele> is it just me or network-manager is not installable in brezy?
[07:39] <xulMunkee> oh okay
[07:39] <JBLoudG20> brenner, thanks a lot
[07:39] <brenner> JBLoudG20: then apt-cache show <package> to show details
[07:39] <funkyHat> xulMunkee, you can try changing your settings in System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media (if you're having problems)
[07:39] <brenner> JBLoudG20: or use synaptic... :)
[07:39] <[t0rc] > mm thnx funkyHat and ubotu
[07:40] <JBLoudG20> thaks a lot
[07:40] <xulMunkee> funkyHat, no problems.. i'm just wondering what daemon actually handles the mounting
[07:40] <crimsun_> xulMunkee: gnome-volume-manager, hotplug, udev
[07:40] <xulMunkee> crimsun_, thanks
[07:40] <hablandocontigo> I heard of an ubuntu light being worked in progress for older machines. Can someone give me some information on this?
[07:40] <redguy> dbus and hal are also needed I think
[07:40] <redguy> xulMunkee: ^^
[07:40] <mcphail> fdr: i think seahorse is there
[07:41] <crimsun_> hablandocontigo: search for ubuntu lite
[07:41] <redguy> hablandocontigo: yes, google
[07:41] <hablandocontigo> crimsun_, ah, thanks, I was trying "light" before
[07:41] <fdr> mcphail: thanks, I will give it a try
[07:42] <crimsun_> redguy: gnome-volume-manager depends on hal and udev
[07:43] <joefso3> How do I configure my ubuntu to use dhcp, and when it does it has to request a certain adress x.x.x.x
[07:43] <xulMunkee> crimsun_, gnome-volume-manager did the trick. thx :)
[07:44] <joefso3> 5
[07:46] <redguy> joefso3: is requesting certain IPs supported by the dhcp? I know that the dhcp *server* can assign certain IPs  to certain MACs
[07:47] <joefso3> redguy: requesting is possible afaik.
[07:47] <joefso3> redguy: it's just a simple broadband router.
[07:49] <hablandocontigo> I don't understand why Gnome/KDE take all my ram up according to top. How is this possible if Windows interface takes less than half as much?
[07:49] <crimsun> joefso3: man dhclient.conf
[07:49] <hablandocontigo> I have 256M ram
[07:50] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, are you using a laptop?
[07:50] <crimsun> hablandocontigo: free -m | grep ^- | awk '{ print $4 }'
[07:50] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I'm using a Dell OptiPlex GX 200 workstationesque PC
[07:51] <QMario> It says my CPU usage is 100%, and yet I am not using many programs.
[07:51] <hablandocontigo> crimsun, 127 was returned
[07:51] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, get more RAM.
[07:51] <crimsun> hablandocontigo: so you have 127 MB of usable free memory
[07:51] <davieP> Like, i get the "starting hotplug subsystem" freeze every time i boot with my USB mouse pluged in
[07:51] <davieP> make it stop?
[07:51] <QMario> What kind of RAM do you have?
[07:51] <hablandocontigo> crimsun, okay, great
[07:51] <QMario> Hello drewfus.
[07:52] <drewfus> im having a problem with synaptic
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I'm not sure, they're both 128 sticks
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I wrote down information before, let me find it
[07:52] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, how old is the computer?
[07:52] <drewfus> thats the first time anyone has said hello when i cam in, qmario, hi
[07:52] <brenner> crimsun: so 'top' is not a reliable method of working it out?
[07:52] <davieP> how do i check how much free space i have on my HD?
[07:52] <drewfus> can anyone help me with synaptic real quick
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, more than 5 years, but that's not the problem; I have tested it on Windows, also
[07:52] <redguy> davieP: df
[07:52] <brenner> davieP: df -h
[07:52] <hablandocontigo> QMario, top is deceiving
[07:53] <drewfus> whenever i run it i get this Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[07:53] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:53] <hablandocontigo> QMario, I have nearly as much free ram as I do on windows
[07:53] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, it probably is SDRAM.
[07:53] <davieP> ty
[07:53] <QMario> Are you using Windows XP or 2000?
[07:53] <drewfus> anyone?
[07:53] <hablandocontigo> QMario, they have different teeth from the sdram I have in my other computer
[07:53] <mebaran151> anyone here know anything about xul
[07:53] <mebaran151> or any resources to make gui with it
[07:53] <crimsun> brenner: look at the correct field in free -m
[07:54] <brenner> drewfus: just ask :)
[07:54] <zeus1_> WOOT GUYS remember me from yessterday
[07:54] <drewfus> i did ill ask again i guess
[07:54] <QMario> Hblandocontigo, most likely it might be a PC133 or maybe as old as PC100.
[07:54] <davieP> is the only way to fix the "starting hotplug subsystem" quasi-freeze to boot with my USB mouse ubplugged?!
[07:54] <zeus1_> well now I have ubuntu FULL INSTALL on a dual boot with XP
[07:54] <drewfus> whenever i run synaptic i get this error
[07:54] <zeus1_> props to all u guys
[07:54] <drewfus> Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic:
[07:54] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:54] <michele> mebaran151, www.xulplanet.com
[07:54] <hablandocontigo> QMario, yes, I was told it was in the 66/100/133 family
[07:54] <crimsun> davieP: try booting with pci=noacpi and/or noapic
[07:54] <mebaran151> michele, do you know if you can write the backend in a language like ruby
[07:55] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, shop on newegg.com, outpost.com, and/or microcenter.com.
[07:55] <ce33na> drewfus: sounds like a permission issue
[07:55] <mebaran151> I am writing a db app at the moment
[07:55] <brenner> drewfus: ah, sorry. :) you probably have another synaptic instance running already
[07:55] <brenner> or that :)
[07:55] <drewfus> no i just rebooted
[07:55] <drewfus> yes this is not on the root but it is a fully enabled user
[07:55] <mebaran151> drewfus, sounds like it crashed
[07:55] <zeus1_> the install for linux took a long time...but now i have it fully installed
[07:55] <mebaran151> you might have to delete a lockfile, drewfus
[07:55] <drewfus> yes it does but thats not normal
[07:55] <drewfus> ?
[07:55] <mebaran151> yeah
[07:55] <drewfus> mebaran151, lockfile?
[07:55] <hablandocontigo> QMario, thanks for the store recommendations
[07:56] <QMario> Drewfus, you could always use apt-get or aptitude for the time being... :)
[07:56] <mebaran151> drewfus, a file synaptic creates
[07:56] <mebaran151> just to make sure that no other instance starts
[07:56] <QMario> Hablandocontigo, no problem.
[07:56] <drewfus> QMario, this is my brothers account he doesnt know how to use commands
[07:56] <mebaran151> that is why you get an error when you try to start to instances of apt or synaptic or whatever
[07:56] <QMario> Drewfus, oh. :-/
[07:56] <drewfus> mebaran151, how do i fix it
[07:56] <brenner> zeus1_: really? how long?
[07:57] <zeus1_> umm like 15-20 mins
[07:57] <mebaran151> drewfus
[07:57] <mebaran151> go into /tmp
[07:57] <davieP> ubuntu is nice!
[07:57] <zeus1_> but its worth it
[07:57] <zeus1_> ubuntu rules
[07:57] <davieP> (=
[07:57] <mebaran151> though you say you rebooted right?
[07:57] <zeus1_> yes
[07:57] <zeus1_> it installed all those packagesw
[07:57] <drewfus> mebaran151, yeah
[07:57] <zeus1_> packages*
[07:57] <brenner> zeus1_: you call that long?!
[07:57] <davieP> i used to use fc4.. ubuntu is bettar
[07:57] <zeus1_> lol...sry im just impatient
[07:57] <mebaran151> hmmm lock files are supposed to be deleted on boot
[07:58] <mebaran151> part of the whole tmpfs thing
[07:58] <mebaran151> what error are you getting
[07:58] <davieP> ...anyways any good recording software for *nix, and more specifically ubuntu rather than Audacity?
[07:58] <drewfus> mebaran151, everytime i do anything where i enter the root password it gives me that error
[07:58] <zeus1_> brb...gonna try booting XP
[07:58] <zeus1_> ill get back to yas
[07:58] <drewfus> Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator:
[07:58] <drewfus>  Child terminated with 1 status
[07:59] <davieP> any good recording software for ubuntu other than Audacity?
[07:59] <GlenC> I'm trying to stream a movie from my linux box connected to the router but I'm only getting about 70 kb/s, not enough to stream without hops, is it the old computer being slow or is it the network?
[07:59] <hablandocontigo> davieP, I've only found Audacity as the only free program of its kind, but that doesn't answer your question directly
[07:59] <persia> davieP: How high end do you want?  snd does a good job for simple things, and then there's Ardour for those with special needs.
[07:59] <davieP> fairly high end
[07:59] <davieP> audacity is buggy.
[08:00] <GlenC> ...
[08:00] <davieP> it's quite buggy actually
[08:00] <Gnonthgol> I was just wondering if anybody knew how to change the language that bugs are displayd in, for sending them on english speaking comunitys like this one
[08:00] <persia> davieP: Yes, audacity has several issues.  I've heard great things about ardour, but I don't understand the entire interface.  Worked for me for simple 2-track recording though...
[08:00] <youngcoder> cant you install a theme by dragging the tar file into the theme manager?
[08:00] <davieP> persia: i'll check out ardour now, thanks
[08:01] <youngcoder> because i keep getting invalid file format error
[08:01] <dopry> ardour is great... especially if you are used to a protools like interface
[08:01] <persia> Gnonthgol: You can temporarily tun any program in English by prefacing the command with LANG=en, which may help (depending on the nature of the error)
[08:02] <drewfus> mebaran151, i have to go, i'll have to come back and deal with it later
[08:02] <Gnonthgol> thanks persia
[08:02] <zeus1_> hey guys....XP booted fine...my dual boot system works amazingly
[08:02] <drewfus> mebaran151, thanks
[08:02] <zeus1_> mission accomplished....i have entered the world of linux
[08:02] <davieP> persia: installing ardour ;)
[08:02] <brenner> zeus1_:have fun :)
[08:02] <Cody`> may I get some help with nvidia drivers? I installed following the ubuntuguide.org directions
[08:02] <persia> davieP: You probably also want qjackctl
[08:02] <zeus1_> thanks
[08:03] <Cody`> and I end up getting blurs of color
[08:03] <zeus1_> and thank u to everyone who helped me out last night with linux
[08:03] <davieP> persia: this is alot more high tech than audacity, too high end!!
[08:03] <dopry> zeus1: congrats... and there is Jamin for post production...
[08:03] <Cody`> http://www.crxgames.com/private_ftp/imag0002.jpg
[08:03] <Cody`> that is what my screen looks like
[08:04] <persia> davieP: Sorry: I don't know anything in between.  Ardour has a *lot* of features, but the docs aren't too bad.  May as well play around a little.
[08:04] <Almindor> well.. atleast E works
[08:04] <Cody`> and it will run if I nvidia-glx-config disable
[08:04] <dopry> davieP: meant to tell you, there is also JaMin for post/digital mastering...
[08:04] <Cody`> but won't use nvidia drivers :x
[08:04] <Almindor> half of the packages are badly broken, qt-fonts are broken(gtk works tho)
[08:04] <dopry> davieP: just a bunch of high quality eq/compression/etc plugins
[08:04] <Almindor> just an advisory to breezy-wannabies like me :)
[08:04] <davieP> ardour: [ERROR] : Could not connect to JACK server as  "ardour"
[08:05] <Almindor> is there a way to reconfigure all packages?
[08:06] <davieP> qjackctl?
[08:06] <Almindor> I think my locale was broken good half of the installations..
[08:06] <dopry> davieP do you have jack installed and running?
[08:06] <Cody`> anyone have any ideas?
[08:06] <persia> davieP: qjackctl lets you start and manage jack: you'll need to manually link your sound card inputs to jack jacks to connect to the ardour inputs.  Like you said, it's fairly high end.
[08:07] <userc479> Hello there people
[08:07] <davieP> dopry & persia: i'll stick to audacity.
[08:07] <davieP> )=
[08:07] <userc479> does this ubuntv also work with Windows Application?
[08:08] <MrLaminar> hi everyone
[08:08] <Cody`> anyone have an ideas why the nvidia driver isn't working? http://www.crxgames.com/private_ftp/imag0002.jpg is what happens when you install it
[08:08] <ce33na> userc479: there is a project called WINE which allows some windows apps to run under linux, but generally...no
[08:08] <topyli> user1: not really
[08:08] <persia> Almindor: dpkg-reconfigure `dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2 }'` should do it, but you may not really want to do this.
[08:08] <MrLaminar> my thinkpad a22m uses acpi, but does not power off automatically after showing "Power Down."
[08:09] <MrLaminar> does anyone now how to fix it?
[08:09] <userc479> topyli-that's a bit of blow isn't it-it would be brilliant if it did
[08:09] <ce33na> userc479: we are reaching a point in the linux world where there is a linux equivalent to most windows apps anyway.
[08:09] <persia> userc479: What do you want to run that isn't available?
[08:09] <userc479> i got 25 of these CD hoping it's gonna be a great life if it did take on Windows-I need it to take AOL and Worms Armageddon
[08:10] <userc479> and Frontpage and a few other application
[08:10] <Cody`> eww frontpage
[08:10] <Cody`> ick
[08:10] <Cody`> Quanta is great on linux
[08:10] <topyli> userc479: worms armageddon would be really nice
[08:10] <GoClick> Seveas may I private message you?
[08:10] <userc479> lol  - it is vital WA works on it!
[08:11] <Seveas> GoClick, be my guest
[08:11] <Seveas> (if your nickname is registered that is)
[08:11] <hellekin> re all (my upgrade went perfectly well)
[08:11] <D1> to breezy?
[08:11] <persia> userc479: There are several alternatives to Frontpage: which to choose depends on your environment too much for a specific recommendation.  There is a limited AOL client, but I'm not familiar enough with Worms Armaggeddon to know if that would work.
[08:11] <topyli> userc479: it's windows's killer app :)
[08:11] <userc479> anyway-thanks for your help guys-i have gtg
[08:12] <ce33na> well...at least he asked
[08:12] <GoClick> Wow an AOL user that knows what Linux is?
[08:12] <Gnonthgol> Had Linux got the grafics eqivelent to windows I think every gamer would use Linux
[08:12] <ce33na> GoClick: no doubt
[08:12] <hellekin> I'm trying to use a small digital camera with gphoto2. Connection via USB. With sudo it works fine, but I'd like my user to be able to mount it. Does it need SUID or changing groups?
[08:13] <traveller> some unicode characters are not displayed properly...us there a package i can install to get them displayed?
[08:13] <crimsun> hellekin: it should mount automatically (an icon should appear on the desktop)
[08:13] <traveller> *is there...
[08:13] <hellekin> D1: no, to Hoary but via some weird path
[08:13] <persia> hellekin: Check which group owns the /dev entry for your camera: you should be able to add your user to the group.
[08:13] <ce33na> hellekin: its a user permission problem
[08:14] <hellekin> persia Yes, I thought that... But which device is it? It's USB
[08:14] <persia> traveller: That's usually a font problem.  Add more fonts until you find one that has all the characters you need.
[08:14] <traveller> persia: alright, thanks
[08:14] <hellekin> thank you guys. I'm ignorant of udev and such
[08:14] <HiddenWolf> Crimsun, I just installed Breezy today on a fresh harddrive. Popped in my audigy2, opened all amixer channels, and heard nothing but static. When I do the same on my audigy1 card, I can hear some music, but still the static is overwhelming.
[08:14] <unvs> are there no netinstall images available for ubuntu?
[08:15] <persia> hellekin: If you unplug it, and plug it back in, you may see something useful in the output of `dmesg | tail`
[08:15] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: daily Breezy or Colony 3?
[08:15] <HiddenWolf> Daily
[08:15] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: try with Colony 3. If it still appears, file a bug, and I'll try to push ALSA 1.0.10rc in.
[08:16] <joefso3> I'm following the ubuntu guide, I added the extra repositorys but I can't install sun-jre!!
[08:16] <redguy> !dirty-java
[08:16] <ubotu> redguy: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:16] <HiddenWolf> Right, I'll download colony3
[08:16] <Cody`> joefso3, do a synaptic search for sun
[08:16] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: keep in mind with your bug report, I'll need the contents of /proc/asound/
[08:16] <crimsun> HiddenWolf: as well as the lspci -v|grep -i audio information
[08:17] <HiddenWolf> Now that's the info I was looking for.
[08:17] <persia> joefso3: The ubuntu guide is not very explanatory.  Try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=Java15
[08:17] <Whistler> where can i find things that starts with my systems
[08:17] <Whistler> ?
[08:17] <Whistler> all deamons
[08:18] <hellekin> persia: the usual USB addressing, but I don't know how to 'ls -l /dev/whatisthat' to see which group and what perms
[08:18] <Cody`> Would anyone be willing to help with my nvidia driver issue?
[08:18] <topyli> Whistler: the init scripts are in /etc/init.d
[08:18] <hellekin> Cody` go ahead
[08:18] <Cody`> I installed the driver using ubuntuguide.org's directions
[08:18] <persia> Whistler: you can see which scripts are started in each runlevel in /etc/rc?.d/
[08:18] <spstarr> can I upgrade from Debian unstable to ubuntu unstable?
[08:18] <Cody`> when I restart x
[08:19] <spstarr> or do i need to reinstall ? :)
[08:19] <HiddenWolf> crimsun, I'll go to colony 3 and recap the bug.
[08:19] <Cody`> I get a blurred screen
[08:19] <Cody`> that is white and black
[08:19] <GoClick> In Synaptic I try and install apache (1.3.33-4) and it tells me it's going to install apache2-utils, is that going to be an issue with it being 1.3.33-44?
[08:19] <GoClick> ignore that last 4
[08:19] <Seveas> spstarr, it will be tricky
[08:19] <Whistler> persia thx
[08:19] <Seveas> *very* tricky even
[08:19] <Cody`> any ideas?
[08:19] <spstarr> Seveas: it is possible to do?
[08:19] <Cody`> works without the driver
[08:19] <spstarr> or i need to do a dist-upgrade with ubuntu?
[08:19] <hellekin> let me check the guide's instructions
[08:20] <Cody`> k
[08:20] <Seveas> basically: pin hoary to 1001, sid to 50, dist-upgrade and install ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop
[08:20] <spstarr> 1001 50?
[08:20] <spstarr> whats this numbers
[08:20] <Seveas> 1001 means: downgrading allowed, 50 means get rid of this
[08:20] <spstarr> is there a wiki on this?
[08:20] <timtux> Wired, i cant install Ubuntu from an orderd CD. But my own burned from an ISO works. And it is driffrence in the installer.
[08:21] <timtux> I think it was same shit diffrent cd
[08:21] <timtux> :-D
[08:21] <reiki> !mp3
[08:21] <spstarr> i cant just edit sources.list put ubuntu's into the list?
[08:21] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[08:21] <dryhump> When I was installing Ubuntu it did not connect to my DHCP server with my wireless NIC, but worked fine with my integrated NIC.  How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my wireless NIC during install or after install?
[08:21] <hellekin> Cody` Check if your /etc/X11/Xorg.conf mentions 'nvidia' instead of 'nv' for the driver
[08:21] <spstarr> then do a dist-upgrade?
[08:22] <spstarr> Seveas: what about debian unstable -> ubuntu unstable
[08:22] <spstarr> they are close aren't they?
[08:22] <persia> hellekin: It looks like it is supposed to mount as an additional SCSI drive.  Try `ls -l /dev/sd*`
[08:22] <Seveas> spstarr, same difference
[08:23] <Seveas> upgrading to ubuntu unstable is always trick
[08:23] <hellekin> persia: oh yes, sd* thanks!
[08:23] <Seveas> once the next version is released an upgrade from stable to stable is easier
[08:23] <spstarr> so i cant just put the ubuntu apt lists in sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[08:23] <spstarr> :)
[08:23] <persia> spstarr: Some packages in debian unstable are newer even than breezy.  You're best bet is to stop upgrading sid for six months, and then migrate to breezy+1.
[08:24] <spstarr> persia: debian unstable doesnt even have kde 3.4.2 though
[08:24] <spstarr> ubuntu does
[08:24] <Whistler> can i stop powernowd from booting?
[08:24] <Whistler> will it be safe?
[08:24] <persia> spstarr: Yes, but some packages are in the other direction.  Changing will be painful (Seveas is *always* right(.
[08:25] <dryhump> Does anyone have any suggestions for getting Ubuntu to work with a Belkin wireless NIC?
[08:25] <hellekin> persia: no mounted partition and I have only two sd* devices with rather secure permissions: 0750 root.plugdev
[08:25] <Seveas> spstarr, wait a month and upgrade to breezy
[08:25] <spstarr> so if i do a dist-upgrade it will break my system? :)
[08:25] <Seveas> that's the easiest route
[08:25] <persia> hellekin: Is your user a member of plugdev?
[08:25] <hellekin> so even if I add my user to plugdev he would only be able to read
[08:25] <Seveas> spstarr, breezy is too unstable now
[08:25] <spstarr> Seveas: i could do that
[08:25] <Seveas> and sarge/sid -> hoary is a difficult route
[08:25] <reiki> I want to play MP3 files I just transferred over from my old WinXP install. I read teh wiki how to install gstreamer stuff so totem can play these files. Is this the best way? Is there a better app for playing media files?
[08:25] <spstarr> Seveas: well how do you define 'too unstable'
[08:26] <spstarr> since im using debian unstable/experimental
[08:26] <spstarr> its not even sid/sarge
[08:26] <liquidfire> !dma
[08:26] <Seveas> spstarr, it's worse like experimental at times ;)
[08:26] <Cody`> hellekin, it does
[08:26] <Seveas> but it's quite allright already
[08:26] <^thehatsrule^> hdparm -d1 /dev/xxx
[08:26] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: /etc/init.d/* is the scripts that controls the deamons
[08:26] <Seveas> if you know your way around X problems, you can give it a shot
[08:26] <spstarr> yes I do
[08:26] <ubuntuser> im finally registered
[08:26] <Baskerville> can someone help me?
[08:26] <spstarr> im using Xorg-HEAD from cvs
[08:26] <Seveas> spstarr, *g*
[08:26] <spstarr> so not even the deb Xorg packages
[08:27] <spstarr> hehe
[08:27] <Seveas> then it should not be a problem :D
[08:27] <crimsun> Baskerville: please don't ask to ask
[08:27] <spstarr> ok so i just need to drop in a ubuntu apt mirror and do a dist-upgrade?
[08:27] <crimsun> just ask
[08:27] <Whistler> Gnonthgol can i remove powernowd from /etc/rc01.d ?
[08:27] <Whistler> will it stop ir from booting?
[08:27] <Baskerville> i have a sound problem
[08:27] <Baskerville> It says it can't find the sound device
[08:28] <persia> hellekin: I'm not sure if you want to, but you can change the permissions in /etc/udev/udev.rules
[08:28] <spstarr> Seveas: the closest mirror being ubuntu.yorku.ca
[08:28] <persia> hellekin: Oops: permissions.ruls
[08:28] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: try she script with stop to test it
[08:28] <spstarr> http://debian.yorku.ca/ubuntu/
[08:28] <Seveas> spstarr, have ubuntu-base installed
[08:28] <carthik> hi, though I have added the backports repos to sources.list, i can't find the sun-j2re1.5 package there
[08:28] <Seveas> ubuntu-desktop may be a bad idea if you use xorg head
[08:28] <carthik> can someone let me know what i am doing wrong?
[08:29] <Seveas> carthik, backports has problems
[08:29] <spstarr> right but whats the apt mirror repo
[08:29] <Gnonthgol> Whistler: # /etc/init.d/powernowd stop
[08:29] <crimsun> Baskerville: what says that?
[08:29] <timtux> carthik, i cant to
[08:29] <Seveas> spstarr, ca.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:29] <Ave> is it safe to upgrade into breezy yet?
[08:29] <carthik> Seveas, is this temporary, or are we in for a long run of problems?
[08:29] <timtux> Ave, NO
[08:29] <crimsun> Baskerville: you have to be very precise when providing details for troubleshooting
[08:29] <Ave> I read about some X package splitting and related problems
[08:29] <liquidfire> taoyer^^
[08:29] <carthik> I installed it a couple of days ago just fine
[08:29] <liquidfire> is a spam bot
[08:29] <hellekin> persia: that sounds perfect.
[08:29] <Seveas> spstarr, full list: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[08:29] <timtux> i did it today, hole my system crashed
[08:29] <Ave> I run debian unstable on my desktop :-\
[08:29] <carthik> also with acroread the backport version is not there... 7.x.x.///
[08:29] <liquidfire> How can I list all my harddisks?
[08:29] <hellekin> Cody` could you please put your Modules Section on pastebin.com?
[08:29] <liquidfire> I want to enable DMA
[08:29] <Whistler> Gnonthgol my pc still works so that means i can remove it?
[08:30] <GoClick> Is there a way to get samba to not keep it's on password database and just rely on the passwords already on the system for users so as to avoid them getting out of synch?
[08:30] <Seveas> GoClick, no
[08:30] <Gnonthgol> whistler: yes, but just move it to another dir.
[08:30] <liquidfire> How can I list all my harddisks? I want to enable DMA :)?
[08:30] <GoClick> Is there a reason why that I'd like to know about?
[08:30] <persia> Ave:You may do better with Colony 3 than today's random packages.
[08:30] <spstarr> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy ?
[08:30] <ce33na> liquidfire: do you know about the hdparm command?
[08:31] <liquidfire> yes
[08:31] <liquidfire> but i want a list
[08:31] <dryhump> Does anyone know of any suggestions for getting UBuntu to work with Belkin wireless nics
[08:31] <Seveas> spstarr, full list: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 <-- read that and add ca. at appropriate places
[08:31] <liquidfire> so i can add them to the hdparm.config
[08:31] <GoClick> Seveas, is it a security thing?
[08:31] <liquidfire> or is it hdparm -l ?
[08:31] <Ave> persia: I thought that doing s/hoary/breezy in sources.list would get me colony3?
[08:31] <Seveas> GoClick, yup
[08:31] <Seveas> Ave, no
[08:31] <Seveas> it will give you the current
[08:31] <hellekin> persia: can't find any mention of plugdev in udev.permissions. All I see is 0660 perms for sd* devices!
[08:31] <Seveas> which is more recent than C3
[08:31] <Ave> gotcha, how to get C3 then?
[08:32] <GoClick> Does the samba package that 'comes with' Ubuntu synch properly using smbpasswd ?
[08:32] <spstarr> thats for hoary
[08:32] <persia> hellekin: huh?  permissions.rules doesn't list plugdev?
[08:32] <Seveas> GoClick, yep
[08:32] <spstarr> what is the equiv for 'debian experimental/unstable' for ubuntu?
[08:32] <spstarr> breezy right now?
[08:32] <Seveas> spstarr, yes
[08:32] <spstarr> there's no static name?
[08:32] <Cody`> hellekin: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1D555J46.html
[08:32] <GoClick> How do I install a .deb file?
[08:32] <liquidfire> anyone :/?
[08:32] <Seveas> spstarr, it's in the make
[08:32] <spstarr> or it will change as new releases happen
[08:32] <liquidfire> btw
[08:32] <liquidfire> whats up with the forums
[08:32] <liquidfire> getting alot of erros
[08:32] <liquidfire> :(
[08:33] <Seveas> a rolling sid-like unstable will be created soon
[08:33] <spstarr> ahh ok
[08:33] <spstarr> thats fine let me add breezy
[08:33] <ce33na> liquidfire: I'm trying to figure out how to tell you how to do this
[08:33] <reiki> Synaptic question. ..I just clicked a box in front of non-free multiverse (so I could add some gstreamer stuff) and now.... how do get rid of those non-free multiverse repos I just added?
[08:33] <carthik> GoClick, http://www.google.com/search?q=How+do+I+install+a+.deb+file%3F&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[08:33] <liquidfire> ce33na, thanks
[08:33] <ce33na> liquidfire: brb
[08:33] <Ave> what happens when mr shuttleworth runs out of money or interest for ubuntu?
[08:33] <liquidfire> i know to do hdparm -d1 devicename
[08:33] <liquidfire> but i'm adding those to the hdparm.config
[08:33] <liquidfire> Ave, look for other investors ?
[08:34] <liquidfire> there should be plenty
[08:34] <persia> hellekin: I suspect the discrepancy is because I've made a mess of my workstation.  Try `grep plugdev /etc/udev/*` to find a useful file.
[08:34] <Ave> yeah but, is there plans for this
[08:34] <carthik> reiki edit /etc/apt/source.list
[08:34] <carthik> sources.list
[08:34] <liquidfire> dunno
[08:34] <ce33na> liquidfire: have you typed df
[08:34] <Cody`> hellekin, I just pasted the whole xorg so I wouldn't need to paste more later
[08:34] <ce33na> or should I say...used df
[08:34] <Ave> I'm afraid to deploy ubuntu beyond simple testing bc I dont want to end up stranded
[08:34] <Cody`> xorg.conf*
[08:34] <liquidfire> nope
[08:34] <liquidfire> thanks
[08:34] <liquidfire> =]
[08:34] <spstarr> ok aptitude sycronized
[08:34] <Ave> there has been plans to merge ubuntu stuff into debian so..
[08:34] <liquidfire> Ave, :o
[08:34] <christos> hello, i can't find package "gdl-1.0". can anyone help?
[08:35] <ce33na> it will not show your cd's or dvd's unless one is mounted
[08:35] <liquidfire> they should get one big thing thne
[08:35] <liquidfire> imo
[08:35] <Ave> so hmm, did I miss it, how to get from hoary to C3?
[08:35] <Seveas> spstarr, don't forget to install ubuntu-base and an ubuntu kernel
[08:35] <Antarez> depending on how well this all goes
[08:35] <crimsun> Ave: stranded? Why? There's paid support, and the support runs for 18 months or LONGER.
[08:35] <spstarr> hrm
[08:35] <liquidfire> plus you have more developers
[08:35] <Antarez> I'm rather disappointed in multimedia capabilities out-of-the-box
[08:35] <liquidfire> which "can" make things go faster
[08:35] <nooneelse> someone knows where to find the libdvdcss2 for ubuntu ?
[08:35] <liquidfire> Antarez, thats because of the copy/trademark rights
[08:36] <liquidfire> =/
[08:36] <spstarr> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver, Resolve generated breaks, this may have caused held packages
[08:36] <persia> Ave: grab a Colony 3 CD, add the cd to /etc/apt/sources.list, and then upgrade normally.
[08:36] <Seveas> Ave, don't install development versions on production sites
[08:36] <Seveas> that's silly
[08:36] <unvs> are you serious... i CANT burn the ubuntu cd-image to a dvd :x
[08:36] <spstarr> E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packags cannot be installed
[08:36] <spstarr> hahaha
[08:36] <unvs> how 2005
[08:36] <spstarr> ok so it didnt like me trying to do a dist-upgrade yet
[08:36] <Ave> persia: woo, no other way than cd update? theres no repository?
[08:36] <Seveas> spstarr, any more details?
[08:37] <spstarr> trying to install unbuntu-base needs ubuntu-minimal
[08:37] <Ave> Seveas: I'm not, I'm just testing ubuntu on my laptop and I'm very impressed
[08:37] <spstarr> cannot install ubuntu-minimal
[08:37] <spstarr> needs libc-i686
[08:37] <nooneelse> someone ?
[08:37] <spstarr> ouch
[08:37] <persia> Ave: Not for colony 3: it was a preview snapshot, for those who wanted a taste.  IF you can wait another six weeks, there'll be a real repository for Breezy.
[08:37] <spstarr> i cannot upgrade from debian experimental -> breezy
[08:37] <Ave> ok, thanks for the info
[08:37] <Ave> I can wait!
[08:37] <Seveas> spstarr, hmm, the libc badness
[08:37] <hellekin> Cody` where is your file?
[08:38] <spstarr> indeed
[08:38] <liquidfire> !pastebin
[08:38] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:38] <Ave> crimsun: well you know the ubuntu boauty system etc, but the money has to come from somewhere, ubuntu has riesn from nowhere in no time
[08:38] <spstarr> i guess i need to reinstall to ubuntu stable -> breezy
[08:38] <rickity> anyone know if the --checksum flag for rsync works for local coping?
[08:38] <hellekin> oh, another pastebin ;o)
[08:38] <Ave> I'm just curious how ubuntu's future is being secured for
[08:38] <Cody`> hellekin: http://rafb.net/paste/results/1D555J46.html
[08:38] <Seveas> spstarr, trick: mkdir partial
[08:38] <Seveas>  apt-get -o"Dir::Cache::archives=`pwd`" -o"Debug::NoLocking=true" -o"Dir::State::status=/dev/null" -d install ubuntu-base
[08:38] <persia> spstarr: You can shortcut that with Colony 3
[08:38] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1662 <[08:38] <ce33na> Ave: my wife was having severe problems with a $2000 Sager laptop a couple of months back. XP sp2 was severely hosed from the factory. It would only run a few minutes. Works perfect with Ubuntu. A couple of drivers are lacking, but it is overall working great.
[08:38] <Seveas> dpkg -i --force-downgrade *.deb
[08:39] <crimsun> Ave: it has secure financial backing. Check the Canonical Web site for more information.
[08:39] <Ave> I find ubuntu faster than stock debian-sarge for example, weird stuff, is it psychological or have they done something to speed it up
[08:39] <rickity> i tried copying a directory using rsync and the files don't match..even though i used --checksum
[08:40] <spstarr> Seveas: that returns a huge list
[08:40] <Seveas> list of what?
[08:40] <Ave> ubuntu foundation and 10 mill start, ok.
[08:40] <hellekin> Cody` well, except if your BusID is incorrect, I don't see any weird thing here.
[08:40] <Ave> and ambitious plans regarding release and support cycles
[08:41] <ce33na> Ave: the guy behind Canonical is one of the few dot com success stories if I remember correctly
[08:41] <spstarr> its downloading 195MB
[08:41] <nooneelse> hey folks
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: hmm
[08:41] <Ave> ce33na: yeah, thawte
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: any ideas then?
[08:41] <robotgeek> spstarr: it does :)
[08:41] <Seveas> spstarr, that's normal
[08:41] <spstarr> interesting... Seveas its downloading all of that
[08:41] <spstarr> never used apt in this mannor before
[08:41] <Ave> I'm aware of mark's accomplishments etc, I'm not doubting him per se
[08:41] <spstarr> :)
[08:41] <rickity> ubuntu is the first distro to find its way on everyone of my machines...and is now my primary os
[08:41] <nooneelse> I'm trying to see a dvd in totem but its returning that "im trying to see a dvd without libdvdcss", what could this be ?
[08:41] <hellekin> Cody` try using the proprietary installer from Nvidia
[08:41] <Seveas> spstarr, it's a trick I learned from planet debian a few days ago :)
[08:41] <Cody`> hellekin: Can do
[08:42] <robotgeek> ubotu tell nooneelse about codecs
[08:42] <Ave> I've been using linux on my desktop from '96 and ubuntu was the first thing in many years that was really something else, it just works
[08:42] <rickity> guess I'll have to check the source code for rsync
[08:42] <unvs> 38 seeds and i'm getting 1.2kb/s
[08:42] <unvs> yay
[08:42] <rickity> seems to me like rsync is not honoring the --checksum flag
[08:42] <unvs> :D
[08:42] <spstarr> Seveas: thats one interesting trick
[08:42] <hellekin> Cody` wait
[08:42] <spstarr> but how does it resolve dependencies now? :)
[08:42] <robotgeek> Ave: yeah, i've used YDL, debian and ubuntu. ubuntu just works!
[08:42] <Cody`> hellekin: k
[08:42] <spstarr> or it'll just remove the old packages
[08:42] <nooneelse> robotgeek, doesnt matter if there restricted formats I just want to find out those packages and install it
[08:43] <Seveas> spstarr, it downloads all dependencies :)
[08:43] <hellekin> Cody` start with adding other modes like 1280x1024 1024x768
[08:43] <robotgeek> nooneelse: instructions are present there!
[08:43] <Seveas> it uses an empty dpkg status
[08:43] <nooneelse> robotgeek, ok i'll see
[08:43] <robotgeek> unvs: what client are u using?
[08:43] <Seveas> with --force-downgrade you may have luck installing the debs
[08:43] <hellekin> Cody` 1680x1050 looks weird =8)
[08:43] <spstarr> if that doesn't work?
[08:43] <Cody`> hellekin: Doubt that would fix it, as that mode works using regular vesa via X, it's widescreen
[08:43] <durt> is it ok to add multiple modelines to xorg.conf?
[08:44] <robotgeek> spstarr: don't u have a separate /home partition?
[08:44] <Ave> now with X.org advances (they are porting kdrive/kaa in replacing crappy old XAA architecture) we'll get something comparable to OSX eyecandy maybe in few years time
[08:44] <Ave> but if there will be x86 OSX...
[08:44] <spstarr> no
[08:44] <spstarr> download done
[08:44] <spackes1> howdy, just got ubuntu up and running on my amd64 box with sata, and it worked like a champ
[08:44] <spstarr> its doing downgrade
[08:44] <hellekin> Cody` I have an nVidia on a 1280x800 display that works fine with nvidia driver, but vesa doesn't like it
[08:44] <robotgeek> spstarr: cool
[08:44] <spackes1> now I just can't get ant to work via apt-get
[08:44] <spackes1> anyone got a a nice apt source that I can install ant from on amd64?
[08:45] <ce33na> I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a version of OSX for commodity grade pcs
[08:45] <spackes1> dies on some glibc install
[08:45] <spstarr> some conflicting packages
[08:45] <Cody`> hellekin, this is odd then, because the driver should work, but it's not :/
[08:45] <hellekin> durt with a multisync screen yes
[08:45] <ce33na> I always feel like I am draggin an anchor with osX anyway.
[08:45] <ce33na> I still prefer linux
[08:46] <robotgeek> ce33na: same here
[08:46] <ReleaseX> is the hoary-extras repository still not working correctly?
[08:46] <Ave> I've been lusting over powerbook/ibook for ages but... argh
[08:46] <neighborlee> is the sun j2re package still in ubuntu or was it removed temporarily ???
[08:46] <neighborlee> friend says he can't find it so making sure
[08:46] <Ave> linux has the freedom but also the endless tuning associated with it, but now, with ubuntu I dont have to tune quite so much if ANY
[08:46] <robotgeek> Ave: they are good machines, but if you are running linux, better x86 than ppc :)
[08:46] <spstarr> still going
[08:46] <Seveas> backports has problems neighborlee
[08:46] <liquidfire> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1662 <[08:46] <Ave> yeah well I'm looking for the new LG laptops maybe..
[08:47] <Seveas> liquidfire, yes, the forums have problems. just wait.
[08:47] <Ave> small, thin, and I hope, durable
[08:47] <neighborlee> Seveas, hmm dain what happeend ?
[08:47] <liquidfire> Ah, thanks Seveas :)
[08:47] <persia> neighborlee: The repository where it is stored is not working correctly right now.  It will probably get better, but no schedule at this point.
[08:47] <nooneelse> I hate depend of packages
[08:47] <nooneelse> back to slackware again
[08:47] <neighborlee> persia, kewl ok thx for verify..
[08:47] <spackes1> hello?
[08:48] <Ave> I think if apple goes OSX they have to dicth their only good assett, controlled hardware, which means they'll have as crappy OS with buggy kernel level drivers for weird hardware
[08:48] <robotgeek> Ave: i think someone will say #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:48] <Ave> sorry
[08:48] <spstarr> done
[08:48] <Ave> ubuntu is great!
[08:48] <crimsun> spackes1: you're not looking too hard. ant is in universe.
[08:48] <spstarr> Errors encountered:
[08:48] <robotgeek> Ave: join in there!
[08:48] <spstarr> bind, dhcp
[08:48] <WhiteRabbit> boot lickers
[08:48] <spstarr> e2fsprogs
[08:48] <spstarr> libc
[08:48] <spackes1> just chokes on the 64 part I think
[08:49] <spstarr> python minimal/python
[08:49] <spstarr> alsa-utils
[08:49] <spstarr> ubuntu-base/ubuntu-minimal
[08:49] <spstarr> but finished
[08:49] <Seveas> not bad
[08:49] <spstarr> now what? :)
[08:49] <spackes1> I have tried a few different repositories
[08:49] <hellekin> Cody` you tried with a classical resolution? As the instructions in the guide are fairly simple and it worked before, I don't see any solution ahead... Except retrying with the proprietary driver
[08:49] <crimsun> spackes1: it's in universe. I just installed it.
[08:49] <spackes1> amd64?
[08:49] <Seveas> try the libc again with --force-it-goddamnit or other obscure dpkg options :)
[08:49] <crimsun> yes
[08:49] <crimsun> spackes1: apt-cache policy ant
[08:49] <spstarr> --force-it-goddamnit
[08:49] <spstarr> hahahaha
[08:50] <Seveas> you get the point :)
[08:50] <Seveas> the manpage lists a lot of --force- parameters
[08:50] <spstarr> that option dosnt work :)
[08:50] <spackes1> yeah, it finds it at my nice arizona mirror
[08:50] <spstarr> oh apt not dpkg
[08:51] <spstarr> er dpkg
[08:51] <Seveas> anyhow, /me afk for a sec
[08:51] <spstarr> force --all
[08:51] <Cody`> hellekin, I just set it to one, I'll retry with the drivers
[08:51] <spstarr> force-downgrade libc
[08:52] <spstarr> its in
[08:52] <spstarr> forcing rest
[08:52] <Cody`> hellekin, nope. no luck
[08:53] <hellekin> Cody` that's weird...
[08:54] <spstarr> i have to remove some packages first
[08:54] <spstarr> since ubuntu-minimal won't force
[08:54] <crimsun> !tell Baskerville about alsa-source
[08:54] <spstarr> so im down to ubuntu-base/minimal as final packages
[08:54] <spstarr> after unpacking: 829MB will be *FREED*
[08:54] <spstarr> heheheh!
[08:54] <Shacham> how can i edit /etc/asound.conf (ALSA config)? i open it using 'sudo gedit' but its still read only
[08:54] <remyforbes777> just installed ubuntu 64 on an amd 64 turion and its freezing after login
[08:55] <remyforbes777> im using kubuntu desktop
[08:55] <spstarr> ok so now its going to rip out debian unstable completely...
[08:55] <spstarr> this should be interesting
[08:55] <spstarr> if my x dies, you'll know why :)
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  this is coverrted in the forums - you will be having some BIG issues.. i also have similer setup
[08:56] <remyforbes777> why is that Dr_willis
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  for a start you need to use the svga, or use the noacell option to get X going ok.. but then there is some other issues
[08:56] <flugh> i gotta get xchat to identify before joining. yeesh. i feel dirty after all that
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  the thing has some oddities it seems. I did find that knoppix 4.0 worked Very well on my laptop
[08:56] <remyforbes777> how do i use svga
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  also check if you can enable 'dma' with 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda'  - i couldent enable it on my laptop
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  i edited my xorg.conf
[08:57] <spstarr> Seveas: this is interesting indeed
[08:57] <flugh> what can i add to ignore to stop these incoming msg's?
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  the ubuntu forums had a few articals on it - the things are so new that most disrtos have issues. :(
[08:57] <Ave> cheers, toodles
[08:57] <spstarr> deb's dependency tree is so amazing it knows all the remaining packages on my system are not correct for ubuntu
[08:57] <spstarr> ;)
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> - flugh  i used some /mode  option mentioned in the other #ubuntu-whateveritwas topic.
[08:58] <remyforbes777> is that the command to enable dma
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  also check if you can enable 'dma' with 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hda'  - i couldent enable it on my laptop
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> i just told ya there. :P
[08:59] <remyforbes777> ok
[08:59] <remyforbes777> thanks
[08:59] <remyforbes777> i will try th at
[08:59] <spstarr> ok
[08:59] <flugh> Dr_Willis, thanks. i'll check back into it. seems to have stopped.
[08:59] <spstarr> ubuntu-minimal is now in
[08:59] <spstarr> ubuntu-base is now in
[08:59] <spstarr> :D
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  my  oponion - at this timne - the thing is just got too many issues. But i bet in a month or so with the newer kenels and so forth - it will be much better supported.
[08:59] <spstarr> im half debian / ubuntu now
[09:00] <Shacham> how can i edit /etc/asound.conf (ALSA config)? i open it using 'sudo gedit' but its still read only
[09:00] <remyforbes777> so you just use knoppix 4.0
[09:00] <spstarr> so now i have to migrate all the packages manually Seveas ?
[09:00] <spstarr> since the remaining ones are marked as kept back (old debian)
[09:00] <flugh> Dr_Willis, got it, thanks.
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> remyforbes777,  not using any linux on it at the moment. :P
[09:00] <cute_bettong> is there a way to limit the physical ram that ubuntu has access too?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> theres a few other Turion laptop users in this channel from time to time.
[09:01] <cute_bettong> i have a memory chip that reads 1024 and it's only 512
[09:01] <Dr_Willis> check back later  :) i got to go to work right now. take care
[09:01] <spackes1> well, gonna do a fresh install and just try universe, thanks
[09:01] <cute_bettong> so i want to limit linux to that 512
[09:01] <remyforbes777> thanks
[09:02] <spackes1> crimsun: thanks, never done universe
[09:02] <cute_bettong> any idea?
[09:02] <funkyHat> cute_bettong, is it causing any problems?
[09:02] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:02] <cute_bettong> lots when i game
[09:02] <mebaran151> cute_bettong, what kind of memory you buying
[09:02] <mebaran151> that is a pretty bad thing
[09:03] <cute_bettong> i have ddr 512
[09:03] <cute_bettong> and it's being read as 1024
[09:03] <mebaran151> but ddr 512 should register as ddr 512
[09:03] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:03] <mebaran151> check your BIOS
[09:03] <hellekin> Rhaaaa... gtkam has issues with UTF-8. Some messages break in French.
[09:03] <cute_bettong> yea the chips goofed up some how
[09:03] <mebaran151> first
[09:03] <cute_bettong> it's some no name brand
[09:03] <mebaran151> and then if worst comes to worst
[09:03] <mebaran151> I think you can manually set it as a kernel argument
[09:03] <mebaran151> like
[09:03] <mebaran151> vmlinuz26 mem=512
[09:04] <mebaran151> but that is a BAD sign
[09:04] <cute_bettong> ok so how do i go about doing this?
[09:04] <cute_bettong> yea i know
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> when i start my kubuntu installation, what user is xorg run as?
[09:04] <cute_bettong> >.<
[09:04] <mebaran151> cute_bettong, very bad, I would in fact recoment getting new memory if you could
[09:04] <mebaran151> because if the chips think they are 512
[09:04] <spackes1> I have been using debian for a year or two and ubuntu seems exactly what I want by the way
[09:04] <cute_bettong> i can't thats why i'm using this stick
[09:04] <spstarr> dist-upgrade .....
[09:04] <mebaran151> they might mess up bound things, as they wont know how to access anything
[09:05] <cute_bettong> a freind gave me it
[09:05] <spstarr> i am now unbutu :)
[09:05] <haakonn> i'm trying to install amarok, but i get: "Depends: amarok-arts but it is not going to be installed", etc. am i missing a repository or something?
[09:05] <spackes1> just do the server install and the apt-get what I like
[09:05] <spstarr> now that was rather interesting Seveas .. time to reboot
[09:05] <spstarr> thank you
[09:05] <cute_bettong> so where do i put this argument in?
[09:05] <cute_bettong> so that i limit linux to 512
[09:06] <mebaran151> I dont think it will help
[09:06] <mebaran151> see
[09:06] <mebaran151> if the chips themselves think they are 512
[09:06] <mebaran151> they will internally try to put things over the 512 boudnary
[09:07] <mebaran151> because they think they have 1024 mb to work with
[09:07] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[09:07] <mebaran151> most modern chips I dont think directly translate things liek they should
[09:07] <mebaran151> they jsut pretend to
[09:07] <mebaran151> so you still might have a bad time
[09:07] <mebaran151> the only thing worth checking
[09:08] <mebaran151> is to see if you misset the bios
[09:08] <cute_bettong> yea thats the isshue the stick reads 1024 but theres only 512 it works fine untill it starts trying to wright to the other portion of the 512 that dosen't exist
[09:08] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:08] <cute_bettong> no the bios is fine
[09:08] <mebaran151> does the bios read it as 1024
[09:08] <cute_bettong> i checked and rechecked it to make shure
[09:08] <cute_bettong> yes
[09:08] <mebaran151> it shoudnt....
[09:08] <cute_bettong> but the stick is labled 512
[09:08] <rata_> someone from smeg team?
[09:08] <mebaran151> can you manually set how much mem is accessible in the BIOS
[09:08] <mebaran151> if you can fix it in the BIOS
[09:08] <mebaran151> the kernel will probably read its value
[09:08] <haakonn> anyone successfully installed amarok on hoary? seems i have unresolvable dependencies
[09:08] <mebaran151> use the BIOS value
[09:09] <spackes1> so, yeah, just reinstalled and I already have shell
[09:09] <cute_bettong> hmmm you know i'm not shure i will have to check i'll be right back and let you know
[09:09] <crimsun> haakonn: you're not using backports, are you?
[09:10] <mveers> bye
[09:10] <haakonn> crimsun: yeah, i am
[09:10] <spackes1> judging from my timestamp of 13:02:10, that means I installed in like seven minutes
[09:10] <flugh> 4 years ago, my bud's wife buys me a computer chair for $7 at a yard sale. 1 year ago, i move away, no room, give chair to another friend. i move back a year later. last night help my friend move, no room for the chair. so, i have my old computer chair back :)
[09:10] <spackes1> that kicks!
[09:10] <flugh> guess you had to be here. just struck me as funny
[09:11] <durt> spackes1, you live in south park?
[09:11] <rata_> someone from smeg team?
[09:11] <Seveas> rata_, it's a one-man team :)
[09:11] <spackes1> huh?
[09:11] <PurpleMotion> Hai, fsckers!
[09:11] <crimsun> haakonn: disable it, update, and install amarok
[09:12] <haakonn> crimsun: yeah, i did that now, seems to work, thanks. i'd like to use backports though, if possible
[09:12] <spstarr> Seveas: that was actually less painful as I thought
[09:12] <Seveas> great spstarr
[09:12] <spstarr> but now i need to install KDE :) since the moment i quit X im not going to have a desktop
[09:12] <spstarr> heh
[09:12] <crimsun> !addingrepositories
[09:12] <ubotu> crimsun: Are you on ritalin?
[09:12] <spackes1> wow, apt-get install ant is only like 240 megs from universe
[09:13] <spackes1> guess it likely gets the whole java world
[09:13] <rata_> do you know who he is?
[09:13] <benplaut> !tell Baskerville about repos
[09:14] <rata_> Seveas, do you know who he is?
[09:14] <Seveas> who?
[09:14] <topyli> breezy's lyx-qt still seems to depend on a qt package that's not available
[09:15] <damsko> :D
[09:15] <rata_> the one-man
[09:15] <rata_> the guy from smeg team
[09:15] <topyli> doesn't seem to be here
[09:16] <damsko> has someone installed f4l?
[09:16] <rata_> and what is his nick?
[09:16] <youngcoder> ok i tried to install some themes.. are there only certain themes that work with ubuntu?
[09:16] <youngcoder> cuz i tried dragging them into the theme window
[09:17] <Viziri> hmm, i've managed to install java but it isn't working with firefox.. any ideas?
[09:17] <youngcoder> then tried to move them to the themes folder as root and they still dont work
[09:17] <youngcoder> Viziri, i think there is a mozilla plugin
[09:17] <youngcoder> not sure though
[09:17] <cute_bettong> ok no go
[09:17] <Cody`> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT~!
[09:17] <rata_> topyli, and what is his nick?
[09:17] <Cody`> nvidia drivers work
[09:18] <zeus1_> Hey all...I have a question..
[09:18] <Seveas> rata_, Amaranth
[09:18] <zeus1_> how do I install fluxbox on ubuntu
[09:18] <Seveas> but he's not here
[09:18] <Cody`> must be my crappy card, as the ones from nvidia.com worked great :D
[09:18] <cute_bettong> theres no setting in the bios to limit the memory
[09:18] <rata_> thanks
[09:18] <topyli> rata_: Amaranth
[09:18] <topyli> oh
[09:18] <dwerf> what is the 'make'-command?
[09:18] <Viziri> yes there is, but it's a manual install which takes place outside firefox.
[09:18] <zeus1_> i have got the .deb binary from the fluxbox site
[09:18] <zeus1_> but how do I install on ubuntu??
[09:19] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: it compiles stuff from source
[09:19] <Cody`> dkpg -i file.deb
[09:19] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: you shouldn't be using it since you have apt to install stuff
[09:20] <zeus1_> Cody I got an error
[09:20] <Viziri> another thing, which maybe connected to java plugin problem is when i go to "ubuntu update manager" and try to update, i get errors
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > i just donwloaded a game from sourceforge.net
[09:20] <youngcoder> Seveas, can you tell me how to install a theme from Gnome-look.org.. i downloaded a GDM theme and a GTK 2.x theme and tried several methods of installing them and still they dont work
[09:20] <zeus1_> "bash: dkpg: command not found"
[09:20] <youngcoder> is there a trick to it?
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > To install Crown and Cutlass in Linux, simply extract the source and type 'make'.
[09:20] <spstarr> nice
[09:20] <rata_> somebody knows how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:20] <spstarr> issue shows now Breezy 5.10
[09:20] <dwerf> EasterSunshine > what does that mean?
[09:20] <spstarr> development branch
[09:20] <spstarr> :)
[09:21] <zeus1_> any of u dudes that could help me to install fluxbox
[09:21] <rata_> does somebody know how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:21] <spstarr> Seveas: I guess I shouldn't be surprised to be able to upgrade from different debians
[09:22] <cute_bettong> hmm how do i play divx files in linux?
[09:22] <youngcoder> well i give up on installing themes
[09:22] <youngcoder> i spent 2 hours
[09:22] <youngcoder> im going to bed
[09:22] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: `tar xvzf /dir/to/source/tarball.tar.gz && cd /dir/to/source/tree && make`
[09:23] <cute_bettong> how do i play .divx files in linux?
[09:23] <EasterSunshine> dwerf: throw that into a console, replacing the paths with real paths
[09:23] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: i think you can rename them to .avi
[09:23] <cute_bettong> ok cool
[09:23] <zeus1_> Anyone that could help me install fluxbox on ubuntu linux
[09:23] <zeus1_> installing is a heck of a lot more complicated than XP
[09:24] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: not really, do you know about apt-get ?
[09:24] <timtux> Have Breezy any relase date yet?
[09:24] <benplaut> just the month
[09:24] <zeus1_> not yet easter
[09:24] <zeus1_> i just installed this
[09:24] <zeus1_> linux
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell timtux about release
[09:25] <Viziri> I followed java installation instructions here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions and got java working, but it isn't working in firefox. I did restart firefox too
[09:25] <rata_> does somebody know how to uninstall smeg from the source?
[09:25] <cute_bettong> hmmm dosen't seem to work
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> rata_: try `make uninstall` in the soruce dir
[09:25] <cute_bettong> >.<
[09:25] <cute_bettong> is there an actual plugin for .divx files?
[09:25] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: i read that the divx file extension is simply to assert that it is encoded in divx, but the video and audio container is still avi
[09:26] <EasterSunshine> cute_bettong: do .avi 's in divx codec work?
[09:26] <cute_bettong> oh ok
[09:26] <cute_bettong> i have never tryed
[09:26] <zeus1_> anyone kno how to install .deb files on ubuntu
[09:26] <cute_bettong> so i don't know
[09:26] <cute_bettong> but the file is marked by ubuntu as .avi
[09:26] <timtux> Does anyone know atleast if breezy gonna be released in what part of september?
[09:26] <cute_bettong> and i have the codecs
[09:26] <rata_> EasterSunshine, thanks, but it doesn't work like that
[09:26] <rata_> it is a python's program
[09:27] <zetor> zeus1: dpkg -i "file name"
[09:27] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[09:28] <cute_bettong> hmm how do i get the font's for mplayer
[09:28] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: you don't need to download the debs yourself, apt will solve the dependencies and install fluxbox for you
[09:28] <cute_bettong> i'm thinking that that could be the problem
[09:28] <Viziri> anyone???  - when i type "java -version" i get "java version "1.4.2" - so i know java is installed. But it isn't working in firefox, which is the main thing... anyone who can help???
[09:28] <carthik> cute_bettong, mplayer-fonts
[09:29] <zeus1_> ight east
[09:29] <zeus1_> i will try that
[09:29] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: it'll download a lot of stuff, hope you have a highspeed internet
[09:29] <zeus1_> "Package fluxbox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:29] <zeus1_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:29] <zeus1_> is only available from another source
[09:29] <zeus1_> E: Package fluxbox has no installation candidate
[09:29] <zeus1_> "
[09:29] <Seveas> zeus1_, don't paste !!!
[09:29] <zeus1_> oh
[09:29] <zeus1_> sry
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: you need to update your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <Mez> firefox seems so weird witht eh right fonty sizes
[09:30] <zeus1_> how do u do that
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell zeus1_ about repos
[09:30] <dalamar> anyone running an ipod shuffle under hoary?
[09:30] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: follow ubotu's directions, and when you have your sources.list filled in, try `sudo apt-get install fluxbox` again
[09:31] <zeus1_> i will
[09:31] <zeus1_> thanks
[09:31] <auTONYmous> anybody here using XFCE?
[09:31] <EasterSunshine> ubotu tell zeus1_ about paste
[09:32] <EasterSunshine> zeus1_: and if you ever need to paste again, use that link ubotu gave you
[09:32] <spstarr> ubotu, bot snack
[09:32] <ubotu> :)
[09:32] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:32] <spstarr> =)
[09:33] <black_13> i was black13 now im black_13
[09:33] <auTONYmous> I have a question about the menu editor in XFCE, if anyone can help
[09:33] <reiki> oooo... I think I just found something I can't do in Ubuntu... can't seem to find setting for my Epson R200 printer to print directly on CDs. Supposedly there's a driver out there that has this AND the ink level monitor in it...
[09:33] <black_13> what is sysfs?
[09:33] <spstarr> purge complete, reboot
[09:34] <spstarr> weeeeeeeeee
[09:34] <GlenC> can anyone suggest a way to make this old box serve files faster?
[09:35] <auTONYmous> new hard drive/drive controller?
[09:35] <GlenC> I might as well just buy a new computer then
[09:35] <ompaul> GlenC, knock down any services that do not need to be on including X
[09:35] <GlenC> will that help serve files faster?
[09:36] <GlenC> because I'm trying to stream a movie and it's pretty choppy
[09:36] <auTONYmous> it'll free ram and resources...couldn't hurt
[09:36] <GlenC> it's over my lan, too
[09:36] <GoClick> Is there an iptables gui?
[09:36] <liquidfire> how can i enable the 3ddesktop :P?
[09:36] <supergeek> Anyone able to give me some help with getting my wintv-go to work? I get sound, from a single channel, but no video.
[09:36] <liquidfire> i installed it
[09:36] <auTONYmous> so nobody here is good with XFCE?
[09:36] <damsko> !ping
[09:36] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, damsko.
[09:37] <GlenC> !ping
[09:37] <benji86> Hi, I just upgraded to Breezy, and I'm now having a problem with loading the nvidia kernel module.
[09:37] <auTONYmous> I'm wondering about that Breezy upgrade too...is it ready for prime time yet?
[09:37] <durt> and whats the problem?
[09:38] <ompaul> GoClick, there is a thing called gnome-lokkit
[09:38] <Seveas> auTONYmous, no
[09:38] <durt> breezy works for me
[09:38] <benji86> hmm
[09:38] <benji86> one sec :)
[09:38] <cute_bettong> hmm i even copyd the .avi file to my hard drive and it still won't play
[09:38] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:38] <auTONYmous> okay...I was thinking of upgrading my old Pentium web server so I can do PHP5...
[09:39] <cute_bettong> i wonder if it could be the memory ishhue that i was talking about
[09:39] <spackes1> durt: south park?
[09:39] <GlenC> so no one can think of a way to get better speeds from this box?
[09:40] <benji86> where should my nvidia.ko be located at?
[09:40] <durt> spackes1: colorado
[09:41] <dwerf> what does "simply extract the source and type 'make'" mean?
[09:41] <spackes1> durt: close, utah
[09:41] <benji86> brb in about 2 mins :)
[09:41] <auTONYmous> GlenC: kill any unnecessary process (free up CPU cycles), get a 10/100 "switch" (not a "hub"... big difference), try using a different file access method (do you HAVE to use SMB?)
[09:41] <damsko> benji86, whereis nvidia.ko
[09:41] <GlenC> thanks auTONYmous, but how can I not use smb?
[09:42] <GlenC> and how do I kill/find processes?
[09:42] <auTONYmous> all the other boxes Windblows, huh?
[09:42] <GlenC> yup
[09:42] <GlenC> and linux isn't an option
[09:42] <slashzero> hey
[09:42] <slashzero> has anyone manage to do anything cool with linux and their bluetooth phone?
[09:42] <auTONYmous> you're stuck with it, so look at the server's processes first, then be sure the network is optimized (the "switch" I referred to a minute ago will help GREATLY)
[09:43] <durt> dwerf: that means youre compiling something
[09:44] <GlenC> what is the switch?
[09:44] <benji86> okay, after a few apt-get removes and installs of nvidia stuff...
[09:44] <auTONYmous> glenc: it's the central network device that ALL your other PC's are plugged into to create the "network"
[09:44] <benji86> it's trying to load the module from /lib/modules/2.6.12-7/volatile/nvidia.ko
[09:44] <benji86> it can't find it now heh
[09:45] <benji86> well because it's not there
[09:45] <mebaran151> anyone here know how to connect an xul app to a database
[09:45] <mebaran151> or where I could ask about such a thing
[09:45] <holycow> mebaran151, wrong channel
[09:45] <mebaran151> I am pretty sure javascript would be nasty nasty nasty to do it in
[09:45] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:45] <auTONYmous> glenc: if you have a "hub" now, all your pc's are sharing the total network speed...
[09:45] <mebaran151> trying to find the right one
[09:45] <holycow> mebaran151, there are books on xul programming
[09:45] <mebaran151> yeah
[09:45] <GlenC> auTONYmous, pm?
[09:45] <durt> benji86: are you using "modprobe nvidia"?
[09:45] <mebaran151> but I would like to quickly mock up something to see if it is the right technology
[09:46] <auTONYmous> glenc: replace the "hub" with a "switch" andy you'll get the full network speed to EACH PC and server
[09:46] <mebaran151> my other idea would be python/ruby/glade
[09:46] <neighborlee> forums ic are still messed up for posting...is this being worked on ??
[09:46] <benji86> durt: Yeah.  Okay the module is there now.  Forgot to install linux-restricted-modules stuff
[09:46] <durt> ok
[09:47] <tristanmike> hi?
[09:47] <zeus1_> OK so i have the package installed
[09:47] <zeus1_> for f box
[09:47] <zeus1_> now how do i replace gnome
[09:47] <zeus1_> w/ it
[09:47] <holycow> your probably going to get the most bang for your buck with py and pywx for a cross platform project in terms of speed from what i've seen
[09:47] <wozabuntu_> hi everyone. just downloaded hoary and installed it. but some packages are broken. anyone had the same experience?
[09:47] <holycow> xul is nice but doing the coding in javascript seems wrong to me
[09:49] <dwerf> is it possible to start a smaller text-based version from the grub command line?
[09:49] <haakonn> is it possible to run update-manager in kde, have it start automatically, and have the icon appear in the system tray as it does in gnome?
[09:49] <dwerf> is it possible to start a smaller text-based version of linux from the grub command line?
[09:49] <holycow> what dwerf?
[09:49] <holycow> well this is debian, you can pretty much rip out anything you want with a few commands
[09:49] <Gnonthgol> dwerf: The recovery mode dont start gui
[09:50] <benji86> durt: Okay, now I can't find nvidia.ko...lol
[09:50] <holycow> there are various distros that cater to that, damn small linux runs on a floppy or two if you want
[09:50] <dwerf> holycow, how do i start a session without graphical interface?
[09:50] <holycow> you can always roll your own
[09:50] <[t0rc] > I'm searching for an online repository for Ubuntu packages (so I can install apps to a pc that isn't networked (online))
[09:50] <benji86> I have nvidia-glx, nvidia-kernel, and linux-restricted-module stuff
[09:50] <benji86> installed
[09:50] <benji86> er nvidia-kernel-common
[09:50] <holycow> dwerf, delete gdm from /etc/init.d dir
[09:50] <ShakeZula> Hiall
[09:50] <holycow> thats the fastest way, you can subsequently remove all of gnome and x if you want
[09:51] <ShakeZula> How can one log into root through a console session on the desktop?
[09:51] <Gnonthgol> or you can install the server version
[09:51] <carthik> ShakeZula, there is no "root" account
[09:51] <icaros> anyone have sound issues with doom3?
[09:52] <carthik> ShakeZula, you can do a sudo -s -H though
[09:52] <Gnonthgol> ShakeZula: try Ctrl + Alt+ F1-F7
[09:52] <benji86> Okay, my new problem.  I installed all of the nvidia packages and now I can't find nvidia.ko :)
[09:53] <durt> benji86: did you run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"?
[09:53] <ShakeZula> Here's the problem, then.  I'm trying to move an item from the desktop to /usr/games, and its saying I don't have permissions
[09:53] <durt> "locate nvidia.ko"
[09:53] <holycow> whats the command to make your self invisible to the spam bots again?  /something +AE?
[09:53] <zeus1_> I have no sound in ubuntu how do i fic
[09:53] <zeus1_> fix*
[09:53] <GlenC> ce
[09:54] <GlenC> /mode +CE
[09:54] <benji86> durt: I did now
[09:54] <holycow> thanks
[09:54] <benji86> it's only finding nvidia.ko in my /lib/modules/linux-2.6.10
[09:54] <icaros> anyone know when search will work again on ubuntuforums?
[09:54] <benji86> but not 6.12
[09:54] <Gnonthgol> Same problem as zeus1 help!!
[09:54] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:54] <Baskerville> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[09:55] <durt> zeus1_: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or "alsaconf"
[09:55] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you sudo modprobe snd_atiixp ?
[09:55] <crimsun> zeus1_: please rephrase the question intelligently: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:55] <spackes1> dumb question, but how I get /etc/mdadm.conf to get noticed at boot?
[09:55] <Baskerville> I did know
[09:56] <durt> btw, breezy seems to be easier to get sound working in
[09:56] <crimsun> "know"?
[09:56] <Baskerville> yes
[09:56] <Baskerville> Still no sound
[09:56] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you unmute the necessary mixer elements (Master, PCM, ...)?
[09:56] <Baskerville> how?
[09:56] <durt> alsamixer
[09:56] <crimsun> use the Volume Control, for instance
[09:56] <Baskerville> I can't
[09:57] <Baskerville> It says
[09:57] <Gnonthgol> Baskerville: what sound card?
[09:57] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:57] <ShakeZula> What is the path to the gnome desktop?
[09:57] <carthik> Shakezula, if you are doing it thru the terminal, then type a "sudo" before the mv or cp ommand
[09:57] <crimsun> Baskerville: cat /proc/asound/cards
[09:57] <Baskerville> 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC\'97 Audi o Controller
[09:57] <Baskerville> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[09:58] <Baskerville> 1 [Modem          ] : ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem
[09:58] <Baskerville>                      ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xf0000500, irq 17
[09:58] <Baskerville> it came this
[09:58] <Baskerville> only the modem part
[09:58] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you compile the atixxp module?
[09:58] <Baskerville> how?
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: I TOLD you to compile atiixp
[09:59] <benji86> durt: Still not finding an nvidia.ko after installing the packages.
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: during those instructions that you copied and pasted, there was a dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source step
[09:59] <Baskerville> yes, but came an error
[09:59] <Baskerville> wait
[09:59] <damsko> benji86 , whereis nvidia.ko
[09:59] <ompaul> Baskerville, pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl is useful when you have lots of data  you get a url that you can paste in here and its only one line
[09:59] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you select the 'all' or the 'atiixp' (NOT 'atiixpm') driver?
[10:00] <benji86> damsko: after 'find / -name nvidia.ko -print' ...
[10:00] <benji86> no where
[10:01] <Baskerville> crimsun, the error was:
[10:01] <zeus1_> i still aint nooo sound
[10:01] <durt> you might have to reinstall stuff benji86 - i dont know
[10:01] <benji86> I did :-/
[10:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: you haven't said anything useful
[10:01] <damsko> benji86: should be in /usr/lib/nvidia
[10:01] <crimsun> zeus1_: please actually describe your hardware
[10:01] <anthony__> is there a way to get openbox from apt in ubuntu?
[10:01] <Baskerville> aalsa.driver.tar.bz2: Archive not found
[10:01] <Baskerville> crimsun, the error was:
[10:01] <Baskerville> aalsa.driver.tar.bz2: Archive not found
[10:02] <crimsun> Baskerville: yes, I see - please don't repeat.
[10:02] <Baskerville> Sorry
[10:02] <benji86> to upgrade from hoary to breezy...i just changed hoary to breezy in my sources.list and did apt-get update, then dist-upgrade, then upgrade
[10:02] <benji86> that should be fine, right?
[10:02] <crimsun> Baskerville: did you follow the instructions EXACTLY?
[10:02] <Baskerville> yes
[10:02] <benji86> I have stuff in /usr/lib/nvidia, just no module
[10:02] <crimsun> zeus1_: do not dcc chat me. Address your questions to me publicly.
[10:02] <zeus1_> k
[10:02] <zeus1_> h/o let me check some things 1st b4 i talk 2 u
[10:03] <anthony__> is there a way to get openbox from apt in ubuntu?
[10:03] <ompaul> anthony__, sudo apt-get install openbox
[10:04] <crimsun> Baskerville: no, you didn't
[10:04] <anthony__> and there is no package it sees
[10:04] <crimsun> Baskerville: you would not have gotten such an error
[10:04] <crimsun> anthony__: enable universe
[10:04] <anthony__> how do i do that?
[10:04] <ompaul> !tell anthony__ about repos
[10:04] <crimsun> anthony__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:05] <anthony__> ok. i'll check that out
[10:05] <Baskerville> the sound driver should be on /dev, right=
[10:05] <Baskerville> the sound driver should be on /dev, right?
[10:06] <crimsun> Baskerville: ok, let's start over.
[10:06] <Baskerville> Thanks!
[10:06] <crimsun> Baskerville: dpkg -l alsa-source build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)|grep ^ii
[10:06] <zeus1_> its not letting me edit esd.conf
[10:06] <zeus1_> its read onyl can I change that
[10:06] <anthony__> for some reason that website won't work for me, crimsun
[10:06] <crimsun> anthony__: works fine here.
[10:07] <crimsun> zeus1_: is your sound chipset actually detected?
[10:07] <anthony__> this is.. odd.. it just sits there at connected to wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:07] <benji86> hmm
[10:07] <zeus1_> idk...what was the command again to detect system hardware plz
[10:07] <crimsun> it's probably pulling down the certificate info
[10:07] <benji86> I have nvidia-agp.ko
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  alsa-source    1.0.8-4ubuntu4 ALSA driver sources
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  build-essentia 10.1ubuntu1    informational list of build-essential packag
[10:07] <Baskerville> ii  linux-headers- 2.6.10-34.4    Linux kernel headers 2.6.10 on 386
[10:07] <durt> lspci
[10:07] <crimsun> zeus1_: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[10:08] <zeus1_> thx
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> any ideas why the sound trials the video in Xine when im watching a dvd that is ripped on to my hard drive in vob format?
[10:08] <crimsun> Baskerville: ok, now cd /usr/src
[10:08] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: are you using esd?
[10:08] <Baskerville> done
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> let me check, because I believe so
[10:08] <crimsun> Baskerville: ls *.tar.bz2
[10:08] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:08] <benji86> Also, when I startx I get an error when it tries to load the "keyboard" module
[10:08] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, what should I be running?
[10:08] <zeus1_> crimsun it detected nvidia nforce multimedia audio and nvidia nforce2 ac97 audio controler
[10:09] <benji86> saying module does not exist
[10:09] <eamonn> JBLoudG20, I've not had good luck with Xine. My DVD player of choice is VLC.
[10:09] <anthony__> hmm firefox just locked up. i killed it and tried again, works now
[10:09] <durt> use opera
[10:09] <netdur> poeple, the kernel in breezy doesn't load speedtch model, so I can't get online... what to do?
[10:10] <Baskerville> done
[10:10] <spackes1> sorry to ask again, but anyone know how I get /etc/mdadm.conf to get noticed at boot?
[10:11] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: some people have much better luck wrt a/v sync when they configure their installation to use ALSA directly
[10:11] <benji86> Can you see if you have the nvidia or nvidia_agp module loaded...whoever is running breezy with nvidia drivers :)
[10:11] <crimsun> zeus1_: lsmod|grep ^snd_intel8x0
[10:11] <benji86> it loaded the nvidia_agp module fine
[10:11] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, ive tried that, but I cannot get it to work properly
[10:11] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:11] <benji86> i just don't have an "nvidia" module
[10:13] <Doonz> .3333333333
[10:13] <Baskerville> it came:
[10:13] <Baskerville> alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:13] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with flash (font problem?)
[10:13] <JBLoudG20> also another question, how do I set up the extra keys on my keyboard to skip tracks in amaroK ( use KDE)
[10:13] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: what did you do?
[10:14] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, I ran through a bunch of steps that another person tried to help me with, I really dont remember them... if you have any advise im open to it
[10:14] <Baskerville> Sorry, Crimsun; what's my next step?
[10:14] <Baskerville> Thanks
[10:15] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector> Default Audio Sink
[10:15] <crimsun> Baskerville: sudo tar xfj alsa-driver.tar.bz2
[10:15] <Baskerville> done
[10:16] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, ill try that to see if it syncs for me
[10:16] <Baskerville> Crimsun, I did it; no message appeared
[10:17] <crimsun> Baskerville: good. Now sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[10:17] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: you haven't changed anything yet
[10:17] <DonR> ng to install Ubuntu on a "old" HP machine that has a n AMD Athlon 1400 .
[10:18] <Baskerville> Do I select all drivers?
[10:18] <DonR> trying to install Ubuntu on a "old" HP machine that has a n AMD Athlon 1400 .
[10:18] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, no im finishing a few things, i have to log out to go into gnome
[10:18] <xulMunkee> !gnome
[10:18] <ubotu> methinks gnome is an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users. see http://gnome.org for details.
[10:18] <crimsun> Baskerville: to save time, only select atiixp
[10:19] <xulMunkee> !mozilla
[10:19] <ubotu> xulMunkee: Are you smoking crack?
[10:19] <xulMunkee> !iiimf
[10:19] <ubotu> xulMunkee: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:19] <DonR> I think I'm having trouble with disk petitioner
[10:19] <Baskerville> I see this:
[10:19] <Baskerville> * ]  todos
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  dummy (/dev/null card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  seq-dummy (dummy MIDI-through client)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  virmidi (virtual MIDI card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  loopback (loopback card)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ad1816a (ISA: Analog Devices SoundPort AD 1815|1816A chips)
[10:19] <reiki> how do I make <user1> a member of <this_group>?  I want user1 to be a member of more than one group (they are already a member of group=user1)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ad1848 (ISA: Analog Devices AD 1847|1848 / Cirrus Logic CS 4248 chips)
[10:19] <Baskerville>   ]  ali5451 (PCI: AC97 on motherboards with ALi M5451 Audio Controller)
[10:20] <Baskerville> The first one means "All" in portuguese
[10:20] <Gnonthgol> I am having problem with flash, No text apears in an application exept for one message in an other font, can anyone tell me what fonts I need?
[10:21] <DonR> I guess this isn't the place to get "install" help ??
[10:21] <Baskerville> ok, I saw the atiixp
[10:22] <Seveas> Baskerville, goddamnit
[10:22] <Seveas> don't paste in here
[10:22] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, when i change the sink to alsa, it wont output sound at all
[10:22] <anatole> re
[10:22] <anatole> this is funny
[10:22] <Baskerville> done
[10:23] <anatole> when i connect, server drops me into #ubuntu-unregged
[10:23] <anatole> then i can join #ubuntu manually with no problem
[10:23] <carthik> reiki adduser <username> <groupname> ?
[10:23] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: no, use custom sink, and enter alsasink device=plughw:0,0
[10:23] <carthik> reiki read man adduser
[10:23] <reiki> ok thanks
[10:23] <carthik> reiki if you are not familiar with man, read man man first :)
[10:23] <Baskerville> i selected the one you told me (atiixp)
[10:24] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, WIERD.... the sound is fine in gnome
[10:24] <reiki> carthik: hahah... man man.... no... this adduser is for existing users as well? I used it in the old days to cline a new user, but don't recall using it on an existing user.... looking
[10:25] <carthik> reiki adduser user group will add an existing user to an existing group, without any options :)
[10:25] <crimsun> JBLoudG20: ok, and you're using totem-xine?
[10:25] <carthik> reiki, sorry if i sounded too.. er... patronizing earlier... :)
[10:25] <reiki> Seems in Ubuntu's user and group management... you can only set a user's default group. I want to add user1 to the group called lp
[10:25] <JBLoudG20> crimsun, im using xine... i just apt-get'ed it
[10:25] <crimsun> reiki: sudo adduser user1 lp
[10:26] <JBLoudG20> apt-got it
[10:26] <JBLoudG20> lol
[10:26] <Baskerville> done
[10:26] <reiki> carthik: no problem... I am not real good at this even though I've done it many different ways over the last 40 years or so :)
[10:27] <carthik> :O - that is longer than i have been alive! ;)
[10:27] <Baskerville> crimsun, what's my next stpe? (sorry)
[10:27] <chi> im having problems with bchunk. im trying to use it to convert a .bin & .cue to an .iso but it always makes two .iso files whats the deal?
[10:27] <zenlunatic> sometimes my machine shuts down for no reason
[10:27] <reiki> carthik: well... I got killed in 2001... so maybe I start over and I'm only 4 years old now instead of 52. :)
[10:28] <hunger> Anyone got the new ATI drivers running in breezy?
[10:28] <carthik> reiki, oh yeah...
[10:28] <fanopnaic> http://phpfi.com/75967     having ext3 problems with breezy. any ideas?
[10:29] <GoClick> How do I change the 'hostname' the my machine, I named it durring install but I don't want that name anymore
[10:29] <sproingie> fanopnaic: try removing the journal and recreating it.  tunefs oughta do it
[10:29] <fanopnaic> GoClick: echo "bla" > /etc/hostname
[10:29] <sproingie> fanopnaic: make sure you're not out of space
[10:29] <reiki> groups yardbird
[10:29] <reiki> damnit
[10:30] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there anymore steps I should follow?
[10:30] <fanopnaic> sproingie: 10-4, will do.
[10:31] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there anymore steps I should follow?
[10:31] <GoClick> Thank you fanopnaic
[10:33] <Baskerville> crimsun, what's my next step? (sorry)
[10:34] <GoClick> How do I get smbd to reload it's config?
[10:36] <twosharp> Seveas, could I please download the adobereader and sun-jre from your repository?
[10:36] <benji86> I'm stumped on how to get the nvidia module
[10:36] <benji86> after isntalling everything that is needed...I still don't have a nvidia.ko
[10:36] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there any more move?
[10:36] <Baskerville> Crimsun, is there any more move?
[10:36] <GoClick> twosharp you have a private message
[10:36] <reiki> woot!  ok... now I can monitor ink levels in my epson R200... now to figure out how to get it to print directly on CDs... teh current driver doesn't have the settings for this
[10:37] <Seveas> twosharp, msg me a username and password
[10:37] <fanopnaic> GoClick: dunno if smbd supports "/etc/init.d/samba reload", but this will definitely work: "/etc/init.d/samba restart"
[10:37] <paulproteus> reiki: Ooh, how'd you pull off ink monitoring?
[10:37] <dalamar> whee, got my ipod shuffle to work under ubuntu ;)
[10:37] <GoClick> k
[10:38] <reiki> paulproteus: I installed mtink and fixed a couple permissions. mtink can do alignment, nozzle cleaning, ink level monitoring
[10:38] <paulproteus> reiki: Thanks!  /me googles the thing
[10:38] <reiki> paulproteus: you can get it through synaptic... it's a package already
[10:39] <paulproteus> reiki: I don't have an inkjet, but many friends do, so I'm just Googling to find out more info, not to download it.
[10:39] <reiki> ahhh
[10:40] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know where the kernel sources are?
[10:41] <__filip_> how can i unrar .rar in ubuntu?
[10:41] <JBLoudG20> how do I turn off the gnome sounds?
[10:42] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, apt-get install kernel-source
[10:42] <fanopnaic> __filip_: install the rar package, then type "rar x archive.rar"
[10:42] <Gnonthgol> System>user*>sound freely translated
[10:42] <fanopnaic> or use file-roller or something
[10:42] <melodie> JBLoudG20, System/Preferences/sound
[10:43] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, I meant: sudo apt-get install kernel-source
[10:43] <indigirl1> anyone using gmailfs with success?
[10:43] <JBLoudG20> melodie, thanks
[10:44] <melodie> JBLoudG20, welcome ;)
[10:45] <Gnonthgol> eamonn: not in 5.04
[10:46] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, hmm... that's what I have, and I just tried it to make sure. It's downloading and installing. It's at 8% now.
[10:46] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, have you tried Synaptic?
[10:46] <Gnonthgol> eamon: Yes
[10:46] <indigirl1> is a detached screen session supposed to outlast a reboot?
[10:46] <wolverian> indigirl1, not if screen is running on the computer that reboots
[10:46] <JDahl> indigirl1, no
[10:47] <__filip_> what is the command to renamn an file?
[10:47] <indigirl1> wolverian: guess the programs close, not much screen can do
[10:47] <Gnonthgol> eamon: strange, I tryes apt-get and now I am installing
[10:47] <indigirl1> __filip_: mv
[10:47] <wolverian> indigirl1, screen itself closes as well. :)
[10:48] <wolverian> (unless it's not running on that computer, of course. but then the ssh sessions inside it will be disconnected.)
[10:48] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, check that you have a deb-src line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:49] <eamonn> Gnonthgol, it'll probably be there but commented out, maybe.
[10:49] <indigirl1> why does wine get all the attention and bochs gets none?
[10:50] <JDahl> wolverian, you can still start a screen session remotely via ssh, and close your local terminal or even reboot, but maybe that's no what you mean?
[10:50] <wolverian> JDahl, right, no. I was just specifying that. with too much detail that I think confused everyone.
[10:50] <wolverian> sorry. :)
[10:51] <indigirl1> i split a sreen window but was unable to determine just how to use the other side. help please
[10:54] <indigirl1> sreen = screen
[10:54] <fanopnaic> indigirl1: wine and bochs and fundamentally different.
[10:55] <fanopnaic> ad screen: try C-a C-n
[10:55] <Gnonthgol> Installing kernel-sources did not help me. I am trying to install alsa-drivers and it cant find my kernel sources
[10:57] <indigirl1> fanopnaic: split with Ctrl-A S. C-A C-N is for other windows but not split windows. it doesn't work
[10:57] <indigirl1> Gnonthgol: kernel-headers perhaps
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> Package kernel-headers is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> is only available from another source
[10:59] <fanopnaic> C-a TAB then
[11:00] <fanopnaic> works for me :)
[11:03] <boze> hello all
[11:03] <durt> hello boze
[11:04] <boze> can anyone tell me how to login as root? I am trying to install nvidia drivers that will not install in X, and only install as root. This sudo is crap
[11:04] <durt> boot up in recovery mode
[11:05] <boze> rthanks durt, but how do I do that?
[11:06] <durt> boze, when you start your computer, hit esc when it says grub, and select recovery mode
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for directory with kernel source... /usr/src/linux
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for directory with kernel build...
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> checking for kernel version... The file /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h does not exist.
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> Please, install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel
[11:06] <Gnonthgol> sources (default is /usr/src/linux).
[11:06] <boze> ok durt, I will. And thanks so much for the help
[11:06] <spackes1> so booting off scsi isn't so hot I am guessing?
[11:06] <xulMunkee> does xchat use up lots of network bandwidth if i leave it on at night?
[11:07] <usrx> not if you're just idle in a chan
[11:07] <JBLoudG20> in gnome, how do I keep hide icons from displaying on the desktop (CD/ usb thumb drive for example)?
[11:08] <klumo> Hi all ! I just installed FLUXBOX , but my resolution sux-a-lot ... How to change it under fluxbox ? :\
[11:09] <usrx> gnon: what's in /etc/src/?
[11:10] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, NEVER paste in here
[11:10] <klumo> got same thing with resolution in Openbox
[11:11] <Gnonthgol> ok
[11:12] <Malin> can nano be enchanced with some kind of syntax highlighting?
[11:12] <Seveas> no
[11:12] <Malin> :/
[11:13] <crimsun> Malin: it's built-in, you just have to enable it
[11:14] <ryguy1233> hi, i have a question about  the ultimate boot cd and using it to get rid of  the GRUB loader...
[11:14] <crimsun> Malin: it depends on newer versions of nano, though
[11:14] <crimsun> Malin: see Google results
[11:15] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the grub loader?
[11:17] <user1> anyone: I'm having a problem with x11 display when I type xclock I get the error
[11:17] <user1> Error: Can't open display: <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[11:17] <hunger> Anyone got the new ATI drivers (8.16.20) running in breezy?
[11:17] <hunger> all of X was moved around... this somewhat complicates the issue of installing the beast.
[11:18] <user1> I tried xhost +
[11:18] <ryguy1233> does anyone know about removing the grub loader?
[11:19] <Gnonthgol> ryguy: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-faq.en.html#q12
[11:20] <Gnonthgol> all: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[11:20] <ryguy1233> thank you
[11:20] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: can you boot dos from floppy?
[11:21] <ryguy1233> i tried that using the win 98 boot disk but i got the error invalid system disk
[11:22] <ryguy1233> then someone recommended that i use the ultimate boot cd (.com) and that wasnt being recognized becuase it was a .exe file on a cd ( i think)
[11:22] <Madeye> Gnonthgol, Google is sick these days http://easyhttp.com/jad/Google-schizophrenia
[11:22] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: so, you can boot to win98?
[11:22] <ryguy1233> im on a windows xp media center but no i cannot boot to it
[11:22] <ryguy1233> i get error 22 from the GRUB
[11:24] <ryguy1233> i was looking for the iso image of the ultimate boot disk (because thats how i would get my computer to recognize it at the start up, right) but i could not find it
[11:24] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: do you have a floppy drive?
[11:24] <ryguy1233> yes
[11:25] <ryguy1233> i tried both win98 and win98 SE boot disks courtesy of bootdisk.com and got invlid system disk (if that helps)
[11:26] <mrdeath> ryguy1233: you need to make a bootable dos diskete and boot with it
[11:28] <ryguy1233> ok, im running linspire live cd (becuase i coudnt get on an operating system otherwisE)
[11:28] <ryguy1233> would i just need to put the boot program onto a floppy or do i need to do something with it
[11:29] <ryguy1233> (i see a program called Floppy Formatter on linspire)
[11:31] <Mithsir> Hi! How do I make GIMP apear in german?
[11:31] <mpm2> I've followed a few howtos for setting up nfs (between to hoary systems) but keep getting "mount:RPC: Program not registered" error message, and am not having luck googling that error.. anyone know what's the minimum I need to get NFS working?
[11:32] <Napalmz> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:32] <Napalmz> how to fix error like this?
[11:32] <Napalmz> everytime i do APT-GET i get this
[11:33] <popey> Napalmz: are you using sudo?
[11:34] <topyli> Napalmz: do you have synaptic or aptitude running at the same time?
[11:34] <Napalmz> nmo
[11:34] <Napalmz> im root
[11:35] <Napalmz> and not using aptituder
[11:35] <nubbe> ryguy1233, Have u tried madboot?
[11:35] <ryguy1233> no
[11:35] <ryguy1233> should i google it?
[11:35] <nubbe> ryguy1233, http://www.madboot.com/
[11:36] <ryguy1233> alright, thanks and what will this do
[11:36] <nubbe> ryguy1233, or ultimatebootcd
[11:36] <ryguy1233> is there fdisk on it?
[11:36] <nubbe> I thought on ultimatebootcd, yes
[11:37] <ryguy1233> i have tried ultimate boot cd but the comp wouldnt recognize it on the start up
[11:37] <ryguy1233> do you know why that would be?
[11:37] <nubbe> ryguy1233, then try madboot floppy and see if u can access ultimatebootcd
[11:37] <ryguy1233> ok, thank you i have to go now
[11:37] <walde> ryguy1233, Do I understant right (Just come in) you dont get rid of grub?
[11:38] <ryguy1233> i hope it works nad i will be back
[11:38] <nubbe> I had a corrupted bios and ultimatebootcd didn't work, but madboot booted and let me use the cd
[11:39] <walde> weired :-)
[11:41] <nalioth> ryguy1233: the ubcd didnt work?
[11:42] <dylanrogers> anybody know how i can get Sound Juicer to rip CDs faster?  I already have cdrdao but nothing.
[11:42] <Seveas> dylanrogers, enable dma
[11:42] <Seveas> !dma
[11:42] <Seveas> !tell dylanrogers about dma
[11:43] <dylanrogers> is there a package that enables it?
[11:43] <Gnonthgol> !ubotu
[11:43] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:44] <dylanrogers> ubota is a great invention
[11:44] <dylanrogers> ubotu i mean
[11:44] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, dylanrogers
[11:46] <slowtek> Greetings :)
[11:46] <slowtek> Can any one tell me why ubuntu will not let me access shared memory ?
[11:47] <slowtek> root@Guadain:~ # synclient -l
[11:47] <slowtek> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[11:48] <slowtek> Is this some sort of security feature of ubuntu ?
[11:48] <slowtek> All I want to do is turn off the touch click feature of my synaptics touch pa
[11:48] <kentaur>  /join #ubuntu-devel
[11:48] <slowtek> er pa=pad;
[11:48] <crimsun> can't you just use gksudo?
[11:48] <slowtek> gksudu
[11:48] <slowtek> ?
[11:48] <crimsun> no, gksudo
[11:49] <__filip_> how does i make users in proftpd ?
[11:49] <slowtek> never heard of it
[11:49] <slowtek> im raw root right now and it aint working
[11:49] <slowtek> :P
[11:49] <crimsun> slowtek: then don't use raw root.
[11:50] <Pickle_Weasel> i am getting an error "no screens found" on bootup and X doesn't start
[11:50] <crimsun> slowtek: gksudo synclient -l
[11:50] <slowtek> well raw root should over ride anything
[11:50] <slowtek> Its ROOT
[11:50] <mititelu`> hello, how can i "mount --Bind" at startup
[11:50] <slowtek> :)
[11:50] <slowtek> ok il ltry gksudo
[11:50] <mititelu`> on a script or something
[11:50] <Pickle_Weasel> how would i configure X server?
[11:50] <slowtek> Pickle_Weasel dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:51] <Thrica> Any reason I would use Ubuntu over OS X that isn't purely philanthropic?
[11:51] <dylanrogers> after enabling dma, must i log off/reboot, etc?
[11:51] <durt> xorg probably not xfree86
[11:51] <mititelu`> how can i  make "mount --bind /dir /dir" at startup autmaticly?
[11:51] <nubbe> __filip_, There is a proftpd howto in ubuntuforums
[11:52] <ce33na> dylanrogers: how did you enable it?
[11:52] <dylanrogers> with the ubuntu wiki page
[11:52] <__filip_> nubbe: this http://ubuntuguide.org/#ftpserver ?
[11:52] <slowtek> ok I tired the gksudo
[11:52] <josh43> Quick question: Is it wise to install the .run drivers for ati/nvidia on a64?
[11:52] <slowtek> its just spews out the synclient -h options
[11:52] <ce33na> did you enter a command at the command line or did you make a config change? I havent read the wiki page
[11:53] <crimsun> slowtek: -h? Did you actually type -h instead of -l ?
[11:53] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: are you running hoary or breezy or warty?
[11:53] <dylanrogers> ce33na, i did both
[11:53] <mititelu`> how can i  make "mount --bind /dir /dir" at startup autmaticly? pls
[11:53] <Gnonthgol> mititelu: why not just mount it the corect plase the first time?
[11:53] <mititelu`> well
[11:53] <mititelu`> after restart
[11:53] <mititelu`> it's not there
[11:53] <slowtek> crimsun  nope
[11:53] <nubbe> __filip_, no in ubuntuforums.org
[11:53] <ce33na> dylanrogers: if you entered the hdparm command successfully, then you do not need to reboot
[11:53] <__filip_> okej
[11:53] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, hoary, sorry for the pause in my response
[11:54] <dylanrogers> ce33na, one last question:  is there a tool out there for linux that will convert mp3s to oggs?
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: what is synclient supposed to bring up, a window?
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: or is it cli?
[11:54] <nubbe> __filip_, it doesn't respond to me right now tho
[11:54] <slowtek> crimsun : also when I try to run gksudo syndaemon I also get  failed to acces shared memory
[11:54] <slowtek> cli
[11:54] <Gnonthgol> mititelu: change /etc/fstab to mount it corect
[11:54] <crimsun> slowtek: gksudo is only for graphical apps that require root access. In that case you just want sudo.
[11:54] <slowtek> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
[11:54] <crimsun> sudo synclient -l
[11:54] <slowtek> k
[11:54] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: then at a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and try the VESA driver
[11:55] <mititelu`> how can i add a bind there?, the filesystem yes, i got it in there, all i need is an automatic bind at startup
[11:55] <slowtek> crimsun : same error
[11:55] <ce33na> dylanrogers: yes. I did it in the reverse, so someone could use my ogg files. I do not remember what I used. I do remember checking out Audacity at that time so maybe that was it.
[11:55] <dylanrogers> ce33na, could you find out for me?  or does anybody else know?
[11:55] <crimsun> slowtek: df -h /dev/shm
[11:56] <slowtek> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[11:56] <slowtek> tmpfs                 110M     0  110M   0% /dev/shm
[11:56] <ilba7r> anyone have problems with gam_server where it increase the cpu load till the pc shutdown
[11:56] <ce33na> dylanrogers: a google search on ogg, mp3, and linux would tell you far more than I could
[11:56] <dylanrogers> ce33na, dma is not working
[11:56] <Gnonthgol> mititeiu: At boot all file systems in fstab is mounted, if you change where it is supose to mount you dont need to move it later
[11:56] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, i am trying to make nvidia drivers work right now, as it was looking for the onboard card and not the PCI card, i will try VESA if this fails
[11:56] <ce33na> then the command was not entered correctly
[11:56] <slowtek> crimsun: ya get that output ?
[11:57] <ce33na> let me check out the wiki
[11:57] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: you've disabled the onboard card in the bios?
[11:57] <mititelu`> ok... then how can i make linux run several commands at startup - start a program of mine or ...
[11:57] <crimsun> slowtek: please read the synclient readme
[11:57] <dylanrogers> ce33na, thanks
[11:57] <Pickle_Weasel> nalioth, not my PC, not sure, i'm guessing no, how would i do this?
[11:58] <slowtek> there isnt one
[11:58] <slowtek> crimsun : there is not one installed by unbuntu
[11:58] <ce33na> dylanrogers: it will take me a few minutes, my boy is playing online games...they are bandwidth hogs
[11:58] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: when the puter first starts up, hit "DEL" and you'll come to a bios screen
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[11:59] <crimsun> slowtek: look online
[11:59] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: find the onboard settings and disable the onboard video
[11:59] <slowtek> k
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> ok
[11:59] <josh43> where is my "Xwindow configuration file"?
[11:59] <Gnonthgol> mititeiu: all scripts in the dir. /etc/init.d is run at startup, it is used for starting daemons but you can altsoe run other programs at boot time, but make sure that the script get finishd or the bott prosess will stop
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> VESA drivers worked just now, howeer ^.^
[11:59] <Pickle_Weasel> however*
[11:59] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: yes, VESA will drive a tank