[18:35] <mi11k1> Yes, I saw that I have a key but it is not working
[18:35] <mi11k1> I was also thinking about trying to build chromium anyways I have the code already
[18:36] <gemita> cool, got it
[18:37] <eli_> hello
[18:40] <linuxuz3r_> hi
[18:46] <linuxuz3r_> all reruns oh well
[18:49] <popey> linuxuz3r_: can we help you?
[18:50] <Pinkamena_D_> I want to install three linux distros on a new hard drive I bought. kali, kubuntu, and ubuntu. I imagine that I could make the three primary partitions and swap manually, but I saw this other option 'LVM' when installing previously that looked like it might be relevant. Should I try to use LVM for this task?
[18:50] <ikonia> Pinkamena_D_: LVm will not work well for you
[18:50] <ikonia> Pinkamena_D_: I'd suggest you keep it simple
[18:50] <Pinkamena_D_> ok
[18:50] <ikonia> one swap partition shared between the 3, and 1 root file system each
[18:50] <ikonia> you're going to have a very hard time managing grub though
[18:51] <sandeeps> hey there, i am in a bit of trouble. Only the preinstalled softwares work in ubuntu the manually installed ones donot start
[18:51] <Pinkamena_D_> yes, but to clarify, this means that the space allocation for the first two partitions can not be modified, correct? this is not a hugh consideration, I was just wondering.
[18:51] <ikonia> sandeeps: such as ?
[18:51] <sandeeps> libre office works but eclipse doesnt even open
[18:51] <ikonia> Pinkamena_D_: the space on the 3 root partitions will not be dynamic at all
[18:52] <ikonia> sandeeps: anything else ?
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> !info eclipse
[18:52] <sandeeps> i tried to install katoolin
[18:52] <sandeeps> this started happening after that
[18:53] <ikonia> what started happening
[18:53] <sandeeps> the problem, the netbeans ,sublime and every other manually installed software wont start
[18:53] <ikonia> you're using terrible install methods for tools
[18:54] <k1l_> katoolin makes your system a kali linux
[18:54] <ikonia> and to be honest - I don't know how katoolin works other than manipulates the sources to kali and pullin the packages
[18:54] <ikonia> as kali is now based on debian this will cause a certain amount of risk
[18:54] <sandeeps> k1l_: i changed os-release and the other file in etc back to trusty
[18:54] <ikonia> too late
[18:54] <ikonia> damange is done at that point
[18:55] <sandeeps> cant i restore using dpkg
[18:55] <eli--> ive been getting in to penetration testing recently so to continue learning i changed from windows to unbuntu any e-books i should read to get used to linux/unbuntu
[18:55] <k1l_> sandeeps: the problem is now. apt will not know what packages to use/install. so you have a mix of kali and ubuntu packages now. that is a lot of work to go through each package and look up if its an original ubuntu one or not.
[18:55] <k1l_> sandeeps: backup your favorite files and settings and make a clean ubuntu install
[18:55] <sandeeps> k1l_: any solution that can work out
[18:56] <sandeeps> except for fresh install
[18:56] <Myrtti> nope
[18:56] <ikonia> I wouldn't trust anything other than a fresh install
[18:56] <ikonia> unless I really understood how to manually undo each risk - which you wouldn't be asking this question if you did
[18:58] <eli--> ive been getting in to penetration testing recently so to continue learning i changed from windows to unbuntu any e-books i should read to get used to linux/unbuntu
[18:58] <ikonia> eli--: not really
[18:59] <ikonia> docs are all out there - loads of books, find something that works for you
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> !manual | eli-- stat with this
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> start*
[19:02] <leonel> Hi guys
[19:03] <Jody> hi
[19:03] <sandeeps> ikonia: so why dint the pre installed packages dint get affected
[19:03] <Jody> someone tell me if i'm online?
[19:03] <k1l_> Jody: yes
[19:03] <ikonia> sandeeps: depends what the kali-tools install changes
[19:03] <Jody> thanks k1l_
[19:03] <ikonia> sandeeps: doesnt' really matter though does it, it doesn't change your situation
[19:04] <sandeeps> ikonia: yeah but i was just curious
[19:04] <Jody> it's first time in irc
[19:04] <eli--> !manual
[19:04] <eli--> thanks
[19:05] <sandeeps> k1l_: is there something which does the opposite of katoolin
[19:05] <k1l_> sandeeps: no.
[19:06] <sandeeps> so there is no coming back
[19:06] <ikonia> sandeeps: you've been told this
[19:06] <k1l_> sandeeps: you could look up what packages that tool installs and what changes those packages do. and revert that manually.  but from experience i say: do a fresh install
[19:06] <eli--> haha the funny thing is that ive already read this one do you have one on penetration testing with linux or should i go ask on other rooms ?
[19:06] <ikonia> the sooner you accept it and move to a clean install and move forward with more sensible tools, the quicker you'll be working
[19:07] <k1l_> i mean work of several days and you dont know if all is well or if an update is breaking something in some weeks.
[19:08] <sandeeps> k1l_, ikonia the only thing i hate is i will have to download stuff all over again the projects can be shifted in a pen drive
[19:08] <ikonia> you should really apply more thought before doing random things on your machine then
[19:09] <sandeeps> i found katoolin was ok but i never knew it could end up in a waste of time
[19:09] <ikonia> how did you find it as "ok"
[19:10] <sandeeps> i mean it was the only tool which could help me install kali tools on ubuntu
[19:10] <ikonia> not at all
[19:10] <ikonia> pretty much all the tools are available direct from ubuntu repos or other trusted repos
[19:11] <ikonia> and the fact that kali is based on debian - not ubuntu, didn't ring alarm bells for you, is a bad sign
[19:11] <sandeeps> i knew the debian difference but i did not know it would create this much problem
[19:11] <ikonia> then you didn't know/understand the debian difference
[19:12] <ikonia> which again - begs the question "what are you doign"
[19:12] <sandeeps> well yeah i accept what i did was extremely stupid
[19:13] <sandeeps> now i bid goodbye to this system
[19:14] <ioria> http://askubuntu.com/questions/708836/removing-katoolin-from-ubuntu-14-04
[19:14] <sandeeps> ioria: i removed katoolin but the problem still persists
[19:14] <ikonia> that guide is bad
[19:14] <ikonia> ignore that guide
[19:14] <ioria> i see
[19:16] <sandeeps> ikonia: with the last method i was able to get my software center running
[19:16] <ikonia> so ?
[19:16] <sandeeps> i am just telling
[19:16] <ikonia> not sure what that has to do with anything
[19:20] <OerHeks> sandy / sandeeps we told you to reinstall, especially with kali tools.
[19:21] <sandeeps> OerHeks: i want to avoid reinstall
[19:21] <eli--> best virtualmachine for linux ?
[19:21] <ikonia> there isn't a "best"
[19:21] <mices> ubuntu doesn't have a gui package manager? just a software center?
[19:22] <ikonia> sandeeps: the sooner you accept it
[19:22] <ikonia> mices: software center is a gui package manager
[19:22] <mices> ty
[19:22] <ikonia> there are additional/optional ones in the repos if you want
[19:22] <OerHeks> !vm | eli-- besides KVM,
[19:22] <sandeeps> ikonia: what is the other package manager
[19:22] <ikonia> sandeeps: there are a few,
[19:22] <ikonia> it's just a front end to dpkg/apt
[19:23] <sandeeps> yeah
[19:23] <OerHeks> mices, install synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter ( with gui )
[19:23] <sandeeps> i tried to install one of those too but that gave me dependency errors - > synaptic
[19:23] <eli--> !virtualbox
[19:23] <ikonia> sandeeps: because you're install is screwed up
[19:23] <eli--> thanks!
[19:24] <ikonia> sandeeps: again - the quicker you re-install the quicker you'll be working
[19:24] <sandeeps> yeah
[19:24] <sandeeps> i need to have a pendrive right now :/
[19:24] <mices> OerHeks: ty
[19:24] <mices> how do i enable ftp server
[19:24] <ikonia> mices: don't
[19:24] <OerHeks> mices, don't, install a sftp service
[19:25] <mices> what's that?
[19:25] <ikonia> a secure ftp service
[19:25] <the0rchid> ftp is very insecure
[19:25] <mices> it's just for my lan
[19:25] <ikonia> up to you what you do - the advice is not to
[19:25] <mices> i just have to copy files from computer to computer
[19:25] <OerHeks> mices you will find tons of them in synaptic :-)
[19:26] <joshuaglass> Any one using Citrix Reciever
[19:26] <mices> ty
[19:32] <ioria> sandeeps, maybe this could help https://github.com/LionSec/wifresti/issues/8
[19:32] <ikonia> no
[19:32] <ikonia> it won't
[19:32] <ikonia> ioria: please stop posting random guesses from the internet
[19:32] <ioria> ok
[19:32] <OerHeks> joshuaglass, i don't, but there is a wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[19:33] <sandeeps> ikonia: what if i grep kali in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* and then remove them all
[19:34] <ikonia> sandeeps: no
[19:34] <sandeeps> and then sudo appt0get update
[19:34] <ikonia> sandeeps: the damage has already been done
[19:34] <ikonia> sandeeps: there is no point coming to this channel and asking for help - to then ignore the information you're being given
[19:34] <ikonia> sandeeps: back up your work, re-install and be more careful
[19:34] <sandeeps> ok
[19:34] <SchrodingersScat> sed would be a better choice than grep, imo
[19:34] <ikonia> and seriously - do you REALLY need some of the pen testing tools from kali - I don't it very much
[19:35] <OerHeks> sandeeps, even ppa-purge will have issues with removing kali repos, as i have seen before
[19:35] <OerHeks> sandeeps, if you took our advice hours ago, you would have a running clean system now
[19:35] <sandeeps> i will be back people with a clean system
[19:39] <vcr80> hy what would be the best channel if I had a very basic question about understanding the boot process?
[19:41] <OerHeks> vcr80, here i guess, this page is a pretty overview what happens @ boot. http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/02/linux-boot-process/ old, but still valid
[19:41] <SchrodingersScat> vcr80: maybe #linux ?
[19:42] <vcr80> OerHeks: thanks! that looks good!
[19:43] <vcr80> SchrodingersScat: thanks! If OerHeks' links doesn't help I'll ask there!
[19:45] <abcd> ##php
[20:05] <sruli> i'm on gnome 15.10 gdm.service gets stuck at boot, the problem started after i delete all contents of /var/log/ i have since done dpkg-reconfigure for gdm (in recovery) but its still gets stuck, how can i fix this?
[20:06] <MonkeyDust> sruli  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/14597742/
[20:08] <OerHeks> "Delete everything in /var/log, you will most likely end up with tons of error messages in very little time, since there are folders in there which are expected to exist. There are some services or applications that will *NOT* create their log files, if they don't exist. They expect at least an empty file to be present. So the direct answer to your question actually is "Do not do this!!!". i guess reinstall
[20:08] <astroduck> Hi, I just installed a precise64 vagrant box and can't find my user in /etc/sudoers or /etc/sudoers.d
[20:09] <astroduck> though adding a new user manually in sudoers.d works. So where is my vagrant user getting sudo permissing from?
[20:12] <jolomar> buenas  noches
[20:13] <jolomar> algun programa gps bueno para linux , Gracias
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> !es
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> !find gps | jolomar
[20:15] <jolomar> Muchisimas Gracias
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[20:17] <OerHeks> !spam | andchat
[20:20] <scuba323> I am using Cygwin to log into my server, and when I go to run lets-encrypt this is what I get. what's happening and how can I fix it?
[20:20] <scuba323> https://i.imgur.com/KqKCdcJ.png
[20:21] <Apachez> are there a specific time which is bad to run apt-get update at?
[20:21] <Apachez> getting W: Failed to fetch http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:21] <Apachez> but all other entries seems good
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> Apachez  don't update when it's full moon
[20:22] <Apachez> is it today? :S
[20:24] <OerHeks> Apachez, maybe your mirror is not synced yet, try an other mirror?
[20:24] <Apachez> so all swedish mirrors are borked? :(
[20:24] <OerHeks> or try again after a minute
[20:26] <akik> scuba323: try setting your TERM variable e.g. "export TERM=vt100", "export TERM=xterm", "export TERM=linux" before running your application. looks like wrong value for the TERM
[20:27] <Apachez> OerHeks: been so for the past 30 minutes
[20:27] <Apachez> finally!
[20:28] <Apachez> 35th try is the charm ;)
[20:28] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:32] <sw0rdfish> hi guys, how come free -m and htop are showing different mem usage
[20:32] <eli--> !virtualbox
[20:33] <eli--> !repositories
[20:33] <sw0rdfish> the bars on htop seem to indicate at least 50% usage but the number given there is like 20% of the cpu usage
[20:34] <sw0rdfish> oh and eli--  what does non-free mean? you can install the VB extension pack for free from virtualbox.org
[20:34] <sruli> OerHeks: how can i stop all logging on my system? i tried "/etc/init/rsyslog.override" but that does not stop all logging
[20:36] <scuba323> akik: thanks!
[20:37] <OerHeks> sruli, ? not sure what you what your goal is, some apps need a log. you deleted it all, so i cannot help you there.
[20:38] <sruli> OerHeks: lets say i reinstall, i do not want any logging on my sys, is that possible?
[20:38] <akik> scuba323: which value worked?
[20:39] <squinty> sw0rdfish,  you can also install Oracle's version of virtualbox from the repo's   virtualbox-5.0 - Oracle VM VirtualBox
[20:39] <OerHeks> sruli, i guess the answer is no.
[20:40] <sruli> OerHeks: is there a way to clear all log files?
[20:40] <OerHeks> maybe someone elseknows a way to avoidlogging.
[20:40] <sruli> i mean empty them?
[20:40] <OerHeks> logrotate
[20:40] <Rachael_> EriC^^, g'day :)
[20:41] <OerHeks> old logs get stored, new empty ones made, so you can delete all logs with a number.
[20:42] <pantato> is netflix broken for ubuntu 14.10? do I have to revert to 14.04 ?
[20:42] <scuba323> akik: I used xterm, but when I tried loading my screen session my weechat was all messed up. using ansi now
[20:42] <scuba323> seems to work
[20:42] <squinty> sruli,  might want to take a look at bleachbit (similar to ccleaner for windows)
[20:43] <sruli> squinty: didnt think of bleachbit, will take a loog at man page
[20:44] <xangua> pantato: 14.10 is no longer supported, since june
[20:44] <xangua> since June, 2015
[20:44] <scuba323> akik: nope jk it doesn't haha I meant screen and weechat looked ok but lets-encrypt is still messed up -_-
[20:44]  * pantato whines
[20:45] <momobi> bs
[20:46] <momobi> tu
[20:47] <momobi> tu et bon
[20:48] <akik> scuba323: dunno if you could try TERM=cygwin. i see that in /lib/terminfo/c/cygwin
[20:51] <Rachael_> Hi all, my password doesn't load GUI after fresh install and backup restore, although does work in tty, any ideas?
[20:51] <sruli> Rachael_: is ur account encrypted with ecryptfs?
[20:52] <spacecub> hi all
[20:52] <Rachael_> sruli, i didn't encrypt my current OS but the original one may have been
[20:53] <scuba323> akik: Set that on my vps or my cygwin term
[20:53] <spacecub> trying to execute a script via xterm, it just tells me its uncompressing the file?
[20:53] <spacecub> file inst compressed to my knowledge
[20:53] <akik> scuba323: i guess by default your cygwin sets it locally to cygwin. you can check the value after logging into the vps by "echo $TERM"
[20:55] <sruli> Rachael_: so on ur current install ur home dir is not encrypted? how did u restore backup? u copied old home dir to new install?
[20:55] <akik> scuba323: i always use screen, so i set TERM=screen and haven't come by an app that misbehaves
[20:55] <Rachael_> sruli, I restored home via deja dup
[20:56] <Rachael_> sruli, and no i don't think it is encrypted
[20:57] <Rachael_> sruli, I can log in via tty so know the password is correct, I've even changed it again to ensure it's right
[20:57] <sruli> Rachael_: i dont know, the login fail on GUI sounds like a ecryptfs problem, might be something else, not sure
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> Hi,
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> I am trying to use lftp to download a file to a remote directory
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> the remote directory is a mounted CIFS drive.
[20:57] <Rachael_> sruli, yeah it worked ok before the restore
[20:57] <Penorsaurus> when I download it, it says permission denied.
[20:58] <scuba323> akik: It's such a pain to have all the possible term types :P thanks though :) I will keep testin
[20:58] <Penorsaurus> nvm
[20:58] <Penorsaurus> got it.
[20:58] <sruli> Rachael_: on tty do "ecryptfs-recover-private" see if it finds something
[20:58] <Rachael_> sruli, are there known issues re restoring encrypted home dir's?
[20:59] <Rachael_> sruli, I'm on the same machine now, differnt Ubuntu OS, can I mnt the drive and check from here?
[21:00] <sruli> Rachael_: yes, that command will look for a .private dir
[21:01] <Rachael_> sruli, and if it finds one, what then?
[21:03] <pantato> i switched my repos to trusty from utopic and my netflix still isn't working :(
[21:03] <gagalicious> how do i access / edit the menu items under Applications 's menu items for gnome-session-fallback version? gnome metacity?
[21:03] <xangua> pantato: please don't do that, install a supported ubuntu release
[21:04] <pantato> there's no other way?
[21:05] <sruli> rachael_: the new install is the the exact same version?
[21:05] <sruli> Rachael_: then we know that ur old home dir was ecryptfs, u then have 2 options, mount and take out ur data, create a new user account, or u can rewrap the passphrase
[21:05] <frojnd> Hi there.
[21:06] <frojnd> I'm trying to install latest intel graphic card drivers for ubuntu 14.04.03 form here: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015q4-intel-graphics-stack-release and I don't know what do I have to compile and in what order? Can someone please help me out? Till now I've susccessfully compiled mesa. But I have a feeling this isn't eneough....
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> !hwe | frojnd try this
[21:09] <xangua> frojnd: what's there for compile¿ it's just a deb file
[21:09] <frojnd> xangua: what? Where I don't see it :S
[21:09] <xangua> you also want the graphic installer https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/intel-graphics-installer-linux-1.2.0 frojnd
[21:11] <frojnd> xangua: I don't see it for Ubuntu 14.04
[21:11] <gagalicious> how do i find and replace only ascii file? "find . -type f -exec sed -i 's/this/that/g' {} \;" <-- is what i have now but it doesnt detect ascii
[21:13] <frojnd> xangua: Ubuntu* 15.04 was released in April 2015. Support for Ubuntu* 14.04 ended when the Graphics Installer v1.1.0 was released (10 Jun 2015). What does that mean?
[21:13] <frojnd> xangua: can you help me out?
[21:13] <Bashing-om> frojnd: Intel also advises no no : https://01.org/linuxgraphics/forum/graphics-installer-discussions/do-not-use-ubuntu-14.04 .
[21:14] <frojnd> Bashing-om: ok..
[21:14] <frojnd> so no graphic installer..
[21:14] <frojnd> I didn't use it in a first place
[21:14] <frojnd> but how do I install latest drivers?
[21:14] <xangua> why do you want to install latest drivers¿
[21:14] <Bashing-om> frojnd: Intel provides the best they have to us .. and it is in the kernel . Now for new harfwar, a different story .
[21:15] <frojnd> xangua: eh.. for my wife laptop can't reboot, poweroff hibernate,... I Found out it's because the intel driveres aren't latest
[21:15] <frojnd> Bashing-om: it's not new hardware
[21:15] <xangua> you found out where¿ if this is really the case then install latest Ubuntu release
[21:16] <frojnd> xangua: I can't I'm on Elementary OS - Freya which uses ubuntu 14.04.3
[21:16] <xangua> !hwe | or try the harware enablement stack, as you were told before frojnd
[21:16] <xangua> frojnd: elementary is not supported here
[21:17] <frojnd> I'm not askign directly for elemetnary..
[21:17] <frojnd> I simply asked how to install latest drivers for ubuntu 14.04.3
[21:17] <Bashing-om> frojnd: Then in that case, Intel provides .. there is no other than what Intel provides . As advised . What you can do to get a differnt driver _ not an advocate - os to go with the HWE stack. gets a new kernel, xerver and graphics driver .
[21:17] <frojnd> Bashing-om: ok
[21:19] <RustyShackleford> in the past, secure boot made installing kinda difficult
[21:19] <RustyShackleford> I haven't tried linux in a year or so. Is it any easier now?
[21:21] <MonkeyDust> RustyShackleford  everything aims for improvement all the time
[21:24] <RustyShackleford> well, well i've got windows installed on this laptop as well
[21:24] <RustyShackleford> I could simply disable secure boot, but then windows won't boot anymore
[21:25] <peterrooney> RustyShackleford:  Not even if you re-enable it later?
[21:25] <k1l_> peterrooney: that is not going to work for dualboot setups.
[21:26] <RustyShackleford> it would sorta work
[21:26] <RustyShackleford> but that is far from idea
[21:26] <RustyShackleford> *ideal
[21:28] <Roger_The_Bum> Hey guys! I have an older computer that I've been trying to install ubuntu on. Since I can't boot the laptop with external media (no USB boot, no floppy or cdrom drive), I tried to install it using a virtual machine with raw disk access. It boots and logs in fine, but I get a ton of errors and my networking isn't working properly. What's the best way to force everything to reconfigure or the best way to do as minimal of an ins
[21:29] <Roger_The_Bum> The errors I'm getting in particular are a 'DDC responded, but no EDID for DVI-D-1' message. I looked it up, but I'm not sure how to resolve it.
[21:29] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:   is that  a desktop or a laptop, you're trying to install it to?
[21:30] <Roger_The_Bum> It's a laptop. I tried with the minimal server install, and a xubuntu minimal install.
[21:30] <Roger_The_Bum> a 2005 Toshiba Portege M200
[21:30] <bprompt> hmm
[21:30] <Roger_The_Bum> I wanted a challenge ;)
[21:30] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:    isn't that a single-core one?  like 1.7ghz or thereabouts?
[21:31] <Roger_The_Bum> probably. I know it's 32-bit, and it's got a centrino processor according to the sticker
[21:31] <Roger_The_Bum> To clarify, it's a portege m200-s838
[21:32] <bprompt> hmm
[21:32] <Roger_The_Bum> Is it wrong to think that a lot of the errors come from trying to do the initial install on a Virtualbox instance?
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Roger_The_Bum: My guess is that those errors aren't related to the way you installed Ubuntu.
[21:33] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:    anyhow, there are a "few" dual-centrino mobiles, but most centrinos are single-core   hmmm so ... no cd?   from 2005?  it would have a dvd I'd think
[21:33] <Roger_The_Bum> Ok, well at least that's a relief.
[21:33] <Roger_The_Bum> Correct. No CD (it's a tablet PC), because it apparently is included on a docking station.
[21:34] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:   well, easier way to install ubuntu is, take out the hdd, plug it elsewhere, install ubuntu to it, unplug it, replug it back in the laptop, it will reconfigure after a boot when it picks up the "new" hardware
[21:35] <Roger_The_Bum> That's what I did to get it to install, albeit through a virtual machine
[21:36] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:   I'd think is not the same a native install though
[21:37] <Roger_The_Bum> That makes sense. I can give that a shot. Will the mini.iso netinstaller be able to install on a USB-connected external hard drive, generally?
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Roger_The_Bum: What release of Ubuntu did you install?
[21:39] <bprompt> Roger_The_Bum:   you can install to an external device, yes, just don't forget to install Grub2 to the external device as well
[21:39] <Roger_The_Bum> Jordan_U: 15.10, using mini.iso I tried the basic server installation and xubuntu-minimal
[21:54] <Frank_Leach> Hi..just wanted to thank Kil for his help earlier...and indeed, everyone here who helps out. I for one really appreciate it
[21:59] <OerHeks> Frank_Leach, have fun!
[22:01] <sruli> i need my screen resoltion to be 16:9 the only 2 options i have for 16:9 are 1280x720 or 1920x1080 i need something in the middle, is it possible to create a custom resolution?
[22:08] <OerHeks> 1366x768 or 1600x900 perhaps ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16:9#Common_resolutions
[22:09] <k1l_> sruli: why not maximum resolution?
[22:10] <eddy> hola
[22:10] <eddy> que hay tios
[22:10] <eddy> hola
[22:10] <eddy> tios
[22:10] <eddy> agamos algo
[22:11] <Frank_Leach> eddy, tu eres espanol?
[22:11] <Surendil> !es | eddy
[22:11] <Frank_Leach> eddy, que quieres
[22:11] <Surendil> Eddy, just so you know, agamos goes with H, hagamos@
[22:11] <eddy> si
[22:13] <eddy_lopez>  /join #ubuntu-es
[22:14] <eddy> hola
[22:27] <spacecub> hiya
[22:28] <spacecub> still trying to run a script, but xterm seems to think its an archive?
[22:28] <spacecub> why for??
[22:29] <Surendil> spacecub, bash, python?
[22:29] <OerHeks> spacecub, what is the name of the script, or can you show us the content of it? paste @ paste.ubuntu.com please
[22:30] <Mackdomz> Hi, I have playonlinux installed. It won't launch from dash or from icon in launcher. Only from command line?
[22:30] <k1l_> Mackdomz: tried to relogin?
[22:30] <Mackdomz> k1l_: I did a reboot
[22:30] <k1l_> what command did you run in terminal?
[22:31] <Mackdomz> "playonlinux"
[22:31] <k1l_> as root or with sudo?
[22:31] <Mackdomz> nop as regular user
[22:31] <doesntmatter> Hi all! I have intel_do_flush_locked failed: Input/output error in lubuntu. Who knows how to solve this?
[22:31] <doesntmatter> http://pastebin.com/TmYSGnWJ
[22:32] <k1l_> Mackdomz: hmmm
[22:34] <Mackdomz> k1l_: Shall I try a regular log out and log back in? Btw the weird thing is when I type it in dash there's 3 times "PlayOnLinux"
[22:34] <azriel> hi
[22:34] <azriel> i am new in ubuntu
[22:34] <OerHeks> doesntmatter, on what intel gpu? ' lspci | grep -i VGA " will tell from terminal
[22:35] <spacecub> Oerheks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15048090/
[22:35] <Bashing-om> !manual | azriel
[22:35] <doesntmatter> OerHeks, "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[22:36] <doesntmatter> OerHeks, i think it is cause the old hardware i use
[22:36] <OerHeks> spacecub, line 121 is a tar command, so logically it works
[22:37] <OerHeks> doesntmatter, yes, i think so too, after reading this >> http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/wine-i915-or-i965-intel_do_flush_locked
[22:37] <spacecub> Oerheks: so it is an archive?
[22:38] <azriel> how to get my machine specs?
[22:38] <OerHeks> spacecub, yes,
[22:38] <OerHeks> !tar
[22:38] <spacecub> where is it unarchiving to?
[22:38] <Roger_The_Bum> bprompt jordan_u no luck! I still get the 'DDC responded' error
[22:40] <spacecub> it tells me its uncompressing, but no file is generated
[22:40] <Roger_The_Bum> (Context: I have an old Toshiba Portege M200-S838 from 2005 that I've been trying to install ubuntu on. I keep on getting 'DDC responded, but no EDID for DVI-D-1' errors)
[22:41] <OerHeks> spacecub, not sure, but i think in "serious.sam.tse_1.07beta1-english-2\"
[22:41] <spacecub> should i rename file extension and open via Archive Manager?
[22:42] <OerHeks> spacecub, are you using ubuntu 32 bit?
[22:42] <spacecub> lubuntu 64 bit
[22:42] <markwalt> can anyone recommend a decent irc client?  I'm using xchat and I kind of hate it.  By decent, I mean something similar to mirc, for a guy (me) who hasn't been on IRC in almost 15 years.
[22:43] <OerHeks> spacecub, oh, then i have no idea, not the 32 bit issue like this http://www.liflg.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1103
[22:43] <rww> markwalt: for starters, xchat development stopped a while ago and you should look into hexchat instead
[22:43] <NginUS> markwalt: I use KVIRC unless I'm on Sabayon, which has a rendering bug that prevents the window from restoriing- now I'm on Quassel & like it almost as well.
[22:43] <rww> markwalt: for a second, mIRC is generally considered terrible by non-mIRC users, so there's not a whole lot like it out there :\
[22:44] <NginUS> dunno anything re mirc tho- sry if im being irrelevant
[22:44] <rww> markwalt: that said, the usual suggestions IRC-wise are hexchat/kvirc/quassel/konversation on the GUI side, or irssi/weechat on the terminal side
[22:44] <k1l_> markwalt: the times of the irc clients who play mp3, run scripts and make coffee are over :)
[22:45] <HackerII> make coffee ?
[22:45] <HackerII> i want 1
[22:45] <spacecub> Oerheks: Thanky, seems installer is failing then :o)
[22:45]  * NginUS wonders if we'll ever have IoT chatbots one day
[22:45] <NginUS> Grande mocha with an extra shot & vanilla syrup pleez
[22:46] <markwalt> Thanks for the suggestions
[22:46] <markwalt> Is hexchat a fork of xchat?
[22:46] <rww> markwalt: yes
[22:46] <markwalt> then I might skip it.
[22:47] <spacecub> somebody said change sh to bash on the first line sorts it, =however, the installer complained on the checksum
[22:48] <NginUS> markwalt: kvirc lets you separate the joins/quits/etc-type messages to a split screen above the real meat & potatoes of conversation, but you have to configure it to open the channels you want at startup, whereas Quassel remembers what channels were open when it closed & reopens them when it restarts & you can disable totally those needless messages from ever appearing- i kinda liked having the split screen for those tho- whatever- test
[22:48] <NginUS>  some over the w/e
[22:48] <markwalt> kvirc must be for kde.  I'm running xubuntu, and kvirc wants to install almost 300 megs of stuff.
[22:49] <NginUS> then theres that
[22:49] <markwalt> quassel's a little smaller, only around 200 megs
[22:49]  * NginUS remembers the good ol days of 'Blueflops'
[22:49] <k1l_> that is the issue with kde programs. you need some kde depencies if you are not using kde.
[22:49] <markwalt> yup
[22:50] <k1l_> markwalt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8015/what-irc-clients-are-available  here are some with screenshots
[22:50] <markwalt> I might do it anyway, but now I want to try hexchat
[22:51] <rww> yeah, at minimum move to hexchat while you're evaluating alternatives
[22:54] <ikonia>  /win 12
[22:54] <Roger_The_Bum> How do I debug 'DDC responded, but no EDID for DVI-D-1' errors?
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> NginUS  thanks for the blueflops hint, going to try it wtih dosbox
[22:56] <NginUS> lol
[22:56] <NginUS> MonkeyDust: Have fun
[22:56] <Roger_The_Bum> this is a message that appears when I'm at a terminal (I don't have a GUI on my system yet), and the system completely locks up for a second at a time when this comes up
[22:58] <Chaos_Zero> is there any guide to installing ubuntu on GPT? I have the first ext2 partition marked as bios_boot with gparted, and the next ext4 partition as / , however the bootloader fails - I see nothing at all when trying to boot from that disk.
[23:00] <OerHeks> Chaos_Zero, i think you want the uefi manual
[23:00] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:01] <Azis> marlwalt you can also use AndChat in android device. Its free no ads
[23:02] <markwalt> I wonder how chatting without a keyboard would be.
[23:04] <mi11k1> Azis,  i do all the time
[23:04] <mi11k1> its good
[23:04] <Azis> Yea, XD
[23:04] <agopo> Hi, can anyone recommend a CLI tool that tells me which of the twitch.tv channels that I'm following are online?
[23:05] <Azis> Saving more resource, rather than firing up laptop
[23:05] <mi11k1> Azis, i like Yaaic client too
[23:06] <Azis> Which one is better? Between and chat and yaaic?
[23:07] <mi11k1> Azis, i dunno, just preference
[23:07] <mi11k1> Azis, it depends on device too, i run them on Blackberry phone mostly
[23:08] <markwalt> So, first impressions is that Hexchat is way better.  Interface is similar, but not annoying.  I might just stick with it.
[23:08] <mi11k1> markwalt, youure right, its decent tooo
[23:09] <Azis> Oh i see. Is it open source too? Yaaic
[23:09] <mi11k1> probably
[23:18] <Azis> Hello. Is there any native linux apps. To cut audio files like cool edit?
[23:18] <yqfvwal> Hi! How do I restore the default hosts file?
[23:18] <Surendil> Azis, audacity
[23:19] <Azis> Does audacity also create wave form?
[23:20] <Surendil> Azis, it does
[23:21] <Azis> Thank buddy i'll try Audacity
[23:23] <OerHeks> yqfvwal, this hosts file looks simular to mine, make sure you chang 'hostname' to your computername  http://askubuntu.com/a/482222
[23:24] <markwalt> Turns out they're right.  Bacon sandwiches do cure a hangover.
[23:28] <almir> new to ubuntu. dont know if im the right channel.. have some issues on ubuntu gnome 15.10 with the sound.
[23:29] <Azis> Almir. Can't play mp3?
[23:30] <almir> no sound at all.
[23:30] <almir> i accidently went into the sound manager i guess its pulse. and accidently changed the profile.. its digital stereo (IEC958)
[23:31] <trickyhero> so my ubuntu computer is not meeting HDCP requirements and so I cannot watch amazon videos in HD
[23:31] <almir> i have a xonar d1 soundcard
[23:31] <Azis> Have u ever try another distro like linux mint or lubuntu?
[23:32] <almir> the sound worked on here Azis , i just did something so it stopped working
[23:33] <almir> would reinstalling alsa or something like that help?!
[23:34] <boyo> Hi, i could log in from display manager.. Only thing that shows up is my wallpaper. Ctrl - alt - t doesn't work. No launcher, no menu-bar. no possibility to close windows/resize
[23:34] <boyo> I've tried apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall but no luck
[23:35] <boyo> i've done ps aux | grep compiz and see compiz is running
[23:35] <boyo> Now i'm in full screen xchat and I'm stuck here until I reboot :-)
[23:35] <Azis> Try to find threat in askubuntu . With similiar problem as yours
[23:35] <boyo> Azis: Me?
[23:36] <Azis> I am also new to ubuntu almar.
[23:36] <almir> Its fine Azis. thnx for the help :)
[23:37] <Azis> XD same here
[23:39] <lokoh>  /join ##security
[23:40] <Azis> boyo. Try ctrl+alt+f1
[23:50] <jolomar> no encuentro el software gps que me dijisteis. Podríais repetirlo para verificarlo
[23:51] <k1l_> !es | jolomar
[23:52] <jolomar> Excuse me  Thanks
[23:52] <jolomar> #ubuntu-es
[23:58] <jolomar> Can anyone recommend a gps software for linux?


 From the Qt Release Team meeting today:
[15:21] <lubot2> Qt 5.9.6 status:
[15:21] <lubot2> - Branching ongoing, will be finalized 22nd May
[15:21] <lubot2> - Blocker list here: https://bugreports.qt.io/issues/?filter=19339
[15:21] <lubot2> * Only one item open in the list atm
[15:21] <lubot2> - Target is still to get the release out at the beginning of June
[16:25] <lubot2> <Lazy B> @tsimonq2, Qool, is changelog already available?
 @Lazy B, I don't think so.


[12:04] <_Sime> allee: next bug fix release of guidance will fix most of these problems. (I've been testing and fixing things here in the meantime).
[12:04] <Riddell> Lure: no idea
[12:04] <allee> _Sime: 'k when you  know it, no problem ;)
[12:10] <Lure> have you seen this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kde-systemsettings/+bug/29691
[12:10] <Lure> IMHO very good points...
[12:10] <Lure> but probably for Dapper+1
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> allee: adept?  what's that?  :P
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> i dont use it either
[12:14] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:15] <allee> Lure: nice report. Is anyone working on kdesystemsettings?
[12:19] <Hobbsee> ah yes, i remember thinking that was a nice report
[12:19] <Riddell> allee: icefox has done a qt4 version I think
[12:19] <Hobbsee> allee: possibly tonio_, but i doubt it
[12:19] <Riddell> and I do hope to fix some of the problems with the current version for dapper
[12:20] <allee> btw. has anyone a klipper action so one can upload current selecton to nopaste or whatever in one go?
[12:20] <allee> yeah, would be good to get the infamous systemsetting behaviour fixed
[12:21] <allee> Riddell: do you know if Tonio is working on (k)netswitch behind the scene?
[12:21] <Riddell> allee: klipper, no but good idea
[12:21] <Riddell> allee: which infamous behaviour?
[12:21] <Riddell> allee: he's in contact with the authors
[12:21] <allee> the resizing
[12:22] <Riddell> resizing is only an issue if you double click
[12:22] <allee> Riddell: I've a long list of things to fix in the pkgs, but when he works on it, it makes so sense to do the same
[12:22] <sebas> Riddell: Remove the old display module :-)
[12:23] <Riddell> sebas: that's been done
[12:23] <sebas> Ah, excellent :)
[12:23] <sebas> You'll be here tomorrow night?
[12:23] <allee> Riddell: oh, knetswitch is still not in archive.  does this mean it's to late for *netswitch
[12:23] <sebas> Late, I guess?
[12:26] <Riddell> sebas: yes
[12:26] <Riddell> will probably go straight to grand place
[12:27] <sebas> Riddell: Ah, I'm not sure how to handle stuff yet.
[12:27] <sebas> Maybe people need to show up at Grand Place, but I'm tempted to leave a list of people allowed for the rooms at JB.
[12:28] <sebas> Having to stay the whole night at JB until everybody is in his room doesn't sound too attractive to me.
[12:29] <Riddell> allee: tonio has uploaded k/gnetswitch, so they should get past NEW fine
[12:29] <sebas> I could send an email though, that I'll be at JB until 8, and thereafter at Roi d'Espagne.
[12:29] <Riddell> sebas: sounds like a good idea
[12:30] <Riddell> sebas: can you include your mobile phone number, lest I get lost?
[12:30] <allee> Riddell: good to know.  (so codeine may make it in too :)
[12:31] <sebas> Riddell: Yeah, will do.
[12:31] <allee> Riddell: I remember you used a special pastebin(?) url that somehow had kubuntu in the url?  I would like to use this for klipper action?  URL?
[12:32] <Riddell> kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:41] <Lure> bye everybody - time for bed
[12:47] <sebas> Riddell: Got my email?
[12:47] <sebas> Wifi is wonky here, and I want to make sure it's actually sent
[04:46] <Tulga> hi all! I want install xgl on dapper 4. please recommend me good howto
[04:47] <seth|lappy> the devel channel isn't the place to ask
[04:47] <seth|lappy> try #kubuntu or #ubuntu
[08:36] <viviersf> Riddell, ping
[09:51] <Tonio__> hello
[09:51] <robotgeek> hey Tonio_
[09:54] <freeflying> Tonio_: hi
[09:55] <freeflying> Tonio_: can user select language thourgh kdm
[10:03] <hunger> Was kalarm's /usr/share/autostart desktop file fixed to be ignored in gnome?
[10:04] <hunger> Could somebody with that file installed check whether there is "OnlyShowIn=KDE" in the desktop files installed by this package into /usr/share/autostart?
[10:48] <Riddell> mornfall: are you still planning on doing the .deb installer?
[10:48] <mornfall> Riddell: we are past feature freeze now
[10:49] <mornfall> Riddell: i'll think about adding it to 3.0 target
[10:49] <mornfall> considering 3.0 will be a year from now (or more) -- that can be done
[10:49] <Riddell> yep, fine
[10:50] <mornfall> i can make a 2.0 branch if there's some desire to add (minor) features for eg dapper+1
[11:45] <viviersf> Riddell, ping
[11:47] <Riddell> viviersf: hi
[11:51] <viviersf> lo :)
[11:52] <viviersf> Riddell, im new to making packages right
[11:52] <viviersf> i got package moo-0.1
[11:52] <viviersf> now i compile it it makes moo-0.1-1
[11:52] <viviersf> how i get it to go to moo-0.1-2
[11:52] <viviersf> etc
[11:52] <viviersf> is there a command for the new version ?
[11:55] <Tm_T> viviersf: changelog?
[11:55] <viviersf> ya
[11:55] <viviersf> but is there a command to add a new one
[11:55] <viviersf> i know i can just copy and edit
[11:55] <Tm_T> prolly no, I think the point is that that all is defined with explanations in changelog
[11:56] <viviersf> okay
[11:56] <Tm_T> so we other know as well what are the differences between packages ;)
[12:00] <allee> viviersf: dch -> add a changelog item;  dch -i  # add a new version and a changelog item
[12:00] <Riddell> viviersf: dch -i
[12:01] <viviersf> thanks Riddell :)
[12:01] <Riddell> allee said it first :)
[12:01] <viviersf> ok and allee
[12:01] <viviersf> haha
[12:01] <allee> viviersf: too late. your on ignore-list ;)
[12:01] <viviersf> Riddell, all kewl impi addons to kde is going to kubuntu now :)
[12:01] <Riddell> great :)
[12:02] <allee> viviersf: impi?
[12:02] <viviersf> i must just nag ajmitch to get me in as a motu
[12:02] <Tm_T> viviersf: yup, changelog ;)
[12:02] <viviersf> and you on how to get them into kubuntu
[12:02] <viviersf> allee south african distro
[12:03] <allee> cool.
[12:11] <Riddell> viviersf: do you have an account on revu?
[12:32] <viviersf> revu ?
[12:32] <viviersf> whats that Riddell
[12:32] <viviersf> i only got lp account
[12:35] <Riddell> http://revu.tauware.de  before you get MOTU (or even after) upload to revu to get packages reviewed
[12:36] <viviersf> kk
[12:36] <viviersf> but it wont matter now
[12:36] <viviersf> since feature freeze is on ?
[12:37] <Riddell> true, not sure if we can upload new packages now
[12:38] <viviersf> yup
[12:39] <viviersf> how would i go about it now to become motu
[12:39] <viviersf> since i cant upload packages
[12:41] <Riddell> fix bugs in existing ones I presume
[12:42] <Riddell> and you can still upload new packages to revu ready for dapper+1
[12:42] <viviersf> ah
[12:42] <viviersf> :)
[12:42] <viviersf> so basicly anything i would find 'nice' to have in dapper+1
[12:43] <viviersf> i  can upload there ?
[12:43] <Riddell> yep
[12:43] <viviersf> kewl
[12:44] <viviersf> but theres no place to get an account
[12:46] <Riddell> ask raphink or siretat or sistpoty
[12:46] <Riddell> you'll need a gpg key
[12:46] <raphink> viviersf: send me a signed message with the gpg key you want to use
[12:46] <raphink><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:46] <viviersf> kk
[12:47] <viviersf> hmm lemme find my gpg again
[12:47] <raphink> viviersf: and upload your key to keyserver.ubuntu.com too, that makes it easier
[01:02] <Tonio__> hi
[01:03] <allee> hi Tonio_
[01:03] <Hobbsee> hey Tonio_ and allee
[01:06] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: are you fine ith those settings ?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> perhaps a little small - i went in and changed it to 10 :) - but yeah, they're very nice!
[01:07] <Hobbsee> it is deja vu sans, i take it?
[01:07] <Tonio_> hum, I would prefer 8 but it is hard to find a setting that feets everyone
[01:07] <Tonio_> 9 is a good average I think ;)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> definetly
[01:08] <Tonio_> I like 8 but that could really be too smal for other people
[01:08] <Tonio_> what about he icon size ?
[01:08] <Hobbsee> 8 would be way too small for here
[01:08] <Hobbsee> icons?
[01:08] <Tonio_> I have the feeling that the default one (48), is a bit too much for the desktop and konq no ?
[01:08] <Tonio_> the icon size
[01:08] <Tonio_> I really like 32
[01:08] <Hobbsee> looks ok
[01:08] <Hobbsee> not sure what my default is though
[01:09] <Hobbsee> dont know - i dont use icons on my desktop - looks nice with teh black outline though
[01:09] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: do you use firefox ?
[01:09] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: yep
[01:09] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: did you notice the cursor is now the good one ?
[01:09] <Tonio_> not that horrible crappy hand
[01:09] <Hobbsee> very much so!
[01:10] <Tonio_> hehe
[01:10] <Hobbsee> :P
[01:10] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: it is not finished yet, so if you have any ideas, ask
[01:10] <Hobbsee> ok
[01:11] <Tonio_> I think it could be nice to set konq to autoscan for new modules and use artsdp by default
[01:11] <Tonio_> that would allow a out of the box working flash or java plugins, no ?
[01:11] <Hobbsee> presumably
[01:12] <Tonio_> there are lots of things like that that could be improved
[01:12] <Tonio_> all that has to be set after the installation in fact
[01:12] <Tonio_> except personnal wishies
[01:12] <Tonio_> but definitly, about everyone will install flash for example
[01:13] <Hobbsee> you know, it's *very* hard to make an announcement over a PA when someone's pulling puffer fish faces at you!
[01:13] <Hobbsee> that is true
[01:13] <Hobbsee> i havent, yet, i dont think...i should do that
[01:31] <Hobbsee> oh, Tonio_ - earlier in dapper, there was a systems setting thing in the kmenu, that let you navigate which bit of it you wanted to open - does that still exist somehow, or did that die?  I found that kinda cool :)
[01:32] <Tonio_> still exists
[01:32] <Tonio_> but not activated by default
[01:32] <Tonio_> right click the K button, then configure, go in Menus
[01:32] <Tonio_> and activate........ dunno the english for this
[01:33] <Tonio_> french is "wuick navigation" or something like that
[01:33] <Tonio_> s/wuick/quick
[01:36] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: might be worth activating it - it was pretty useful
[01:37] <Hobbsee> ooh thankyou :)
[01:40] <Tonio_> hum, can be usefull yes, but I don't think it can be *that* usefull for standard users....
[01:40] <Tonio_> anyway, I think we should create a group for the kde desktop
[01:40] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[01:41] <Tonio_> kde is a fantastic desktop manager but has so much possibilities that it needs a big bunch o configuration
[01:42] <Tonio_> WOW
[01:42] <Hobbsee> true
[01:43] <viviersf> Riddell, im making a package for all service menus we want to add
[01:45] <Tonio_> viviersf: very nice idea :)
[01:45] <Tonio_> viviersf: but we cannot add new packages actually
[01:45] <Tonio_> or I missed something :)
[01:46] <Tonio_> viviersf: that can be done within kubuntu-default-settings
[01:46] <viviersf> no
[01:46] <viviersf> for dapper +1
[01:46] <Tonio_> viviersf: ah ok
[01:47] <allee> viviersf: isn't it better to add the service menu desktop files to the pkg of the tool the service menu uses?
[01:48] <viviersf> the one im adding now is email
[01:48] <viviersf> so that will have to go into kmail
[01:48] <viviersf> and then there is the deb install one
[01:48] <viviersf> that will have to go into dpkg
[01:49] <viviersf> and im pretty sure they wont allow kde service menus in dpkg's package
[01:49] <allee> dpkg is essential so  can be added to konqueror
[01:50] <allee> with kmail I see no problem, put it in debian/ dir and install it
[01:52] <viviersf> well i cant i make it so long
[01:52] <viviersf> its just to get them in
[01:53] <viviersf> since they cant go into kmail and konqueror atm
[01:54] <Tonio_> allee: still no internet at home, so it'll take a little moment before I subscribe to alioth
[01:54] <viviersf> understand allee ?
[01:55] <allee> viviersf: is a missing service entry a bug?  bugfixes are still allowed ;)
[01:55] <allee> Tonio_: no problem.  Should I import that is on revu in the meantime?
[01:56] <Tonio_> allee: sure
[01:56] <allee> Tonio_: 'k.  Feel free to send me a diff when you make changes or checkin later ourself.
[01:57] <viviersf> no allee
[01:58] <viviersf> service entry = feature
[01:59] <allee> viviersf: :(  I hoped to add codeine service menues.
[02:07] <Tonio_> allee: thanks for the missing knemorc profiles ;)
[02:07] <Tonio_> I still have stuff to do on k-d-s, I'll ad them :)
[02:14] <viviersf> heh allee
[02:27] <jpatrick> Riddell: can I fix malone #4385 ?
[03:25] <freeflying> Riddell: ping
[03:50] <Lathiat> whoah
[03:50] <Lathiat> how sweet is the new login
[03:51] <nlindblad> shots?
[03:53] <jpatrick> Lathiat: :)
[03:53] <Lathiat> nlindblad: try it yourself ;p
[03:53] <Lathiat> bit hard to get shots of the login process
[03:56] <jpatrick> nlindblad: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29426 w00t
[03:56] <nlindblad> hi jpatrick
[03:57] <nlindblad> looks nice
[03:57] <nlindblad> but you see that screen for a second or two
[03:57] <nlindblad> so why theme it?
[03:57] <jpatrick> just nice?
[03:58] <jpatrick> nice is used to describe biscuits
[03:58] <freeflying> I have some question about kdm , who can help me
[03:58] <nlindblad> freeflying: most people in this channel
[04:02] <freeflying> I just wonder wether kdm can select language before login
[04:25] <jpatrick> right
[04:27] <Lathiat> anyone else noticed alt+drag window doesnt move it anymore?
[04:27] <jpatrick> does here (breezy :) )
[04:27] <Lathiat> i mean on dapper
[04:27] <Lathiat> did on breezy
[04:28] <freeflying> Lathiat: I have used it 5 hrs ago
[04:28] <seaLne> dosen't seem to work for me
[04:28] <freeflying> s/ago/before
[04:37] <nlindblad> Lathiat: it does here (Dapper)
[04:38] <Lathiat> seems to depend where you drag the window
[04:38] <Lathiat> before it blanket worked
[04:59] <jpatrick> as usual ;-)
[05:28] <jpatrick> re Lure
[05:28] <Lure> hi jpatrick
[05:50] <kmon> hi
[05:52] <jpatrick> hello kmon and seth
[05:52] <robotgeek> hey jpatrick kmon seth
[05:52] <kmon> hi everybody
[05:53] <robotgeek> my external monitor just worked, i am so happy :)
[05:53] <jpatrick> kmon: fix was uploaded yesterday
[05:53] <kmon> jpatrick:  I've noticed
[05:54] <jpatrick> robotgeek: aren't most monitor's external?
[05:54] <robotgeek> jpatrick: from my laptop, i mean
[05:54] <jpatrick> :)
[05:54] <kmon> jpatrick: there are still some rough edges in kdm theme manager, but I believe it's an upstream issue
[05:54] <robotgeek> i can document in peace now
[05:54] <Lure> robotgeek: dual display?
[05:55] <robotgeek> Lure: hmm, no. just external monitor. i did not feel like mucking with xorg.conf
[05:55] <jpatrick> kmon: such as?
[05:55] <robotgeek> Lure: maybe a project for another day :)
[05:56] <Lure> robotgeek: I am waiting for new Display applet - it is supposed to have something
[05:56] <kmon> jpatrick: well, I seem unable to add the kdmthemes located in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/ I beleive this is because the applet is designed to load kdm themes from a tar.gz (or similar) package
[05:57] <robotgeek> Lure: ah, that would be very nice. i had to plug my external in when computer starts, otherwise monitor doesn't detect
[05:57] <jpatrick> kmon: add the theme using it's .desktop file
[05:57] <jpatrick> kmon: or .xml (can't remember which)
[05:57] <kmon> jpatrick: Also, One bug which could be fixed, is that If I open kdm theme applet in system settings, then enter admin mode and press the show all button in system settings and the again load the kdm theme applet and error message pop's out saying the applet was already opened in system settings.
[05:58] <jpatrick> kmon: that's for all modules
[05:58] <jpatrick> not my fault =)
[05:58] <kmon> jpatrick: I have to close system settings and open it again to access it
[05:58] <kmon> jpatrick: ohh, I see
[05:58] <kmon> jpatrick: Then it's a known bug
[05:58] <jpatrick> yes
[05:59] <kmon> jpatrick: system settings is very nive, but has some rough bugs
[05:59] <kmon> jpatrick: localization doesn't work very well
[06:00] <jpatrick> kdmtheme/system settings?
[06:00] <kmon> jpatrick:  system settings
[06:00] <kmon> jpatrick: many modules appear in english
[06:00] <jpatrick> yeah, known (need to translate)
[06:01] <kmon> jpatrick: ok. I can help there... I just need to get some time and get on with roseta
[06:02] <jpatrick> it's not in rosetta (yet)
[06:04] <kmon> does anyone know if the feature in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperRoadmap that says: "investigate best practice for kwallet to balance lack of intrusiveness with security." is planned for dapper or is a deferred goal?
[06:05] <kmon> One of the things I hate of using kwallet is that I have to enter a password for kopete. There should be an option to let some apps load the wallet without asking questions
[06:06] <Lathiat> therre is "always allow" you of course always need to put the password in once
[06:06] <Lathiat> iirc kopete has a bug
[06:06] <Lathiat> that keeps asking
[06:06] <jpatrick> not here
[06:07] <kmon> Lathiat: where's that option?
[06:08] <Lathiat> kmon: when it asks you to open the wallet, if you have to re-enter the apssword, thats different and possibly the bug i mentioned
[06:09] <kmon> my problem is that I don't want to be asked for a password for applications I've granted access to the wallet, for example: kontact or kopete
[06:09] <kmon> every time I log in kde, and launch kopete I have to enter the password
[06:09] <kmon> it's quite irritating
[06:09] <Tonio_> kmon: do you make usage of kwalletmanager ?
[06:10] <kmon> yes
[06:10] <Tonio_> okay
[06:10] <Tonio_> you set a password on the default wallet
[06:10] <Tonio_> if you want transparent acces, you have to set a blank password on the default wallet
[06:10] <Tonio_> that's the only solution
[06:10] <kmon> the thing is that once the wallet is loaded, I can launch other apps, (kontact) and I'm not asked for the password
[06:11] <Tonio_> that's normal because the wallet is opened
[06:11] <Tonio_> the problem is he opining of the wallet that prompts for a passwod
[06:11] <kmon> but I don't really want that solution, I want to be asked for the password on apps that aren't granted access to the wallet, otherwise no questions
[06:11] <Tonio_> so blank the password of the wallet "kdewallet" and you will not be prompted anymore
[06:11] <Tonio_> kmon: there is no other solution
[06:11] <Tonio_> hum
[06:11] <kmon> Tonio_: so... it's a bug or a feature?
[06:12] <jpatrick> neither
[06:12] <Tonio_> if an application isn't granted access
[06:12] <Tonio_> it will not acces to the wallet even if it is opened and blank password
[06:12] <kmon> ohh
[06:12] <kmon> I see
[06:12] <kmon> thanxs
[06:12] <Tonio_> you will have to grant acces once or definitly
[06:12] <Tonio_> that's a clean way to proceed :)
[06:13] <Tonio_> but I agree with you it would be nice to have a config option "if application granted, don't prompt for password"
[06:13] <Tonio_> that would be the best
[06:13] <kmon> Tonio_: that would be a nice addition
[06:13] <Tonio_> kmon: bugs.kde.org :)
[06:14] <Tonio_> post a feature request or vote if already exists !
[06:14] <kmon> Tonio_: ok, I'll do it later
[06:15] <kmon> another question: anyone has flash working with konqueror?
[06:15] <jpatrick> No
[06:15] <kmon> I've installed flashplugin-nonfree
[06:15] <kmon> but it's not workling
[06:16] <kmon> and also, I've installed the java 1.4 rte from blackdown (it's in universe) but I don't have a plugin for konqueror
[06:16] <kmon> I've already filed bugs
[06:16] <kmon> but I wanted to know if it's me or this happens to everyone
[06:17] <jpatrick> I'm waiting for Gnash to be ready
[06:17] <Tonio_> kmon: did you go in konqueror options and click "search for new plugins"?
[06:17] <kmon> Tonio_: yes
[06:17] <Tonio_> hum........
[06:17] <Tonio_> do you see flash in the plugins list ?
[06:18] <Tonio_> concerning java I would suggest you to install it within the plf repo or something, and install version 1.5, that way better that crappy 1?4
[06:19] <kmon> Tonio_: the flash plugin is not listed
[06:19] <Tonio_> kmon with package did you install ?
[06:19] <Tonio_> cause you have one with the plugin itself
[06:19] <kmon> flashplugin-nonfree
[06:20] <Tonio_> and another one with download the files to remotelly install it ;)
[06:20] <Tonio_> let me check
[06:20] <Tonio_> Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer
[06:20] <Tonio_> This package will download flash_linux.tar.gz archive from Macromedia (or mirror). It is useful for mozilla browser variants.
[06:20] <Tonio_> it is important to read the desc ;)
[06:21] <Tonio_> remove this one and install flashplugin-mozilla
[06:21] <Tonio_> this is the good one
[06:21] <kmon> it doesn't download anything:
[06:21] <kmon> avier@a1691:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[06:21] <kmon> Password:
[06:21] <kmon> Checking new upstream release...
[06:21] <kmon> I: checking http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/macromedia/site_ucsc.html...
[06:21] <kmon> No new version is detected. ( = not installed)
[06:21] <Tonio_> flashplayer-mozilla ?
[06:21] <kmon> let's see...
[06:21] <Tonio_> flashplayer-mozilla install directly the plugin
[06:22] <kmon> ok, let's see...
[06:22] <kmon> Tonio_: now it works
[06:22] <kmon> Tonio_:  thanks
[06:27] <kmon> Tonio_: we are in feature freeze right? so there aren't going to be new packages/features from now on?
[06:28] <jpatrick> kmon: only bug fixes
[06:28] <kmon> jpatrick: so, I imagine kat will stay as it is now...
[06:28] <jpatrick> yes
[06:29] <kmon> and kde 3.5.2?
[06:30] <jpatrick> exception
[06:32] <kmon> nice
[06:34] <kmon> kdesu doesn't have a patch for not asking the password if it was entered oin 15 minutes like gksu has?
[06:51] <kmon> jpatrick: is there any way to configure konqueror's drag & drop to do a default action instead of asking everytime is I want to move a file, copy or link it?
[06:51] <jpatrick> not that I know of
[07:16] <jpatrick> hunger: you around mate?
[10:38] <Lure> Any idea how to properly fix this bug: https://launchpad.net/bugs/30301
[11:25] <verwilst> hello!
[11:25] <verwilst> anybody going to fosdem?


[23:17] <mup> Issue operator#402 closed: Allow way for harness to trigger upgrade-charm event <Created by hloeung> <Closed by hloeung> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/402>