[04:50] <merganser> how is everyone?
[05:34] <MinimalLak> I'm having problems installine any version of wine on my kubuntu
[05:35] <valorie> MinimalLak: how are you installing?
[05:36] <valorie> and what is the problem
[05:36] <valorie> !info wine
[05:36] <MinimalLak> anytime I try it says it will remove the following packages (which it apparently can't remove because kubuntu needs them):   cryptsetup   cryptsetup-bin   friendly-recovery   pulseaudio-module-bluetooth   rtkit   ubuntu-minimal   unity-greeter-session-broadcast   upstart   ureadahead
[05:37] <MinimalLak> it fails when this happens
[05:38] <MinimalLak> I looked on the ubuntu forums for this, and they recomended purging my kubuntu of any wine packages, but it don't work
[05:38] <MinimalLak> plus, from what little I saw, no solutions match with the problem I got
[05:38] <MinimalLak> or so far, no one has reported the same problem I have
[05:38] <MinimalLak> using vmware player (latest free version)
[05:39] <MinimalLak> version 7.0.0 build-2305329
[07:08] <MinimalLak> I am patient enough to wait for an answer, but my eyes are going bloodshot; all I can ask is this: if this is a problem that can't be solved using regular means, and instead through a future kubuntu update, that would be boss hoss
[07:09] <MinimalLak> im signing out, eyes ar ehurting, must rest them, goodbye
[07:42] <alumnos> HI
[07:42] <alumnos> hola a todos
[07:42] <alumnos> donde me he metido?
[07:42] <MR_BLUE> ¿?¿?
[07:42] <MR_BLUE> esto que es lo qu es?¿?¿?
[07:42] <MR_BLUE> hay alguien¿?¿?
[07:43] <MR_BLUE> hola¿?
[07:45] <valorie> !es | MR_BLUE
[07:45] <MR_BLUE> gracias :D :D
[07:46] <valorie> :-)
[11:20] <ken> o
[11:20] <ken> o
[11:20] <Guest63986> hello
[12:34] <dmoyne> I am using a logitech k360 keyboard and I am with qwerty setting when logging after azerty as expected . How to fix this
[13:03] <RetroSpock> ;'
[13:05] <RetroSpock> test
[13:25] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[13:25] <tobiasBora> I have uploaded to Kubuntu 14.10 and I've an annoying problem with KNetworkManager
[13:26] <tobiasBora> It doesn't auto connect to my Wifi Network, so I need to click on the connection every time I awake my computer.
[13:27] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:48] <alvin> tobiasBora: I assume you have ticked 'automatically connect to this network when it is available'?
[13:48] <tobiasBora> alvin: Well I never close my client... (I run it on a server)
[13:49] <tobiasBora> Sorry
[13:49] <tobiasBora> Yes this box is always checked
[13:51] <DP-UA> Hi Everyone!
[13:52] <DP-UA> gg
[14:00] <alvin> tobiasBora: I'm not following you. You're using Kubuntu as server. That is possible, but makes no difference. (and is not useable when the device goes to sleep as you say). If autoconnect does not work, it's a bug.
[14:02] <lordievader> tobiasBora, alvin: I think there is a misunderstanding. If I understand correctly tobiasBora is talking about his irc client. Is this correct tobiasBora?
[14:03] <tobiasBora> alvin: Sorry I though I was on another channel and I talked about something else, sorry. My current computer is a classic one.
[14:04] <tobiasBora> lordievader: Instead when I sayed "I never close my client" I was talking about my IRC client because I though I was on a channel where I asked a question 2 days ago and somebody asked me if I were still on the channel.
[14:04] <alvin> ok, but it was wifi, right? Not quassel. Quassel takes a little while to see whether you're back online.
[14:04] <tobiasBora> But my real problem is about Wifi yes.
[14:05] <tobiasBora> Then I'm going to do a bug report.
[14:05] <alvin> Yes, I believe the autoconnect feature is supposed to work. It's not plasma5, is it? I noticed the tick box "enable Num Lock on login" is not honored there. Autoconnect might be similar.
[14:06] <alvin> Let's keep it at "autoconnect should work as advertised"
[14:06] <alvin> I believe it does here. 14.10 with a bunch of PPA's. My plasma5 machine has no wifi, so I can't test.
[14:07] <tobiasBora> Well I didn't add any PPA, so I don't think I'm on plasma5. (maybe there is a way to check ?)
[14:08] <alvin> Heh, good question. You can 'see' the difference. I do think you need the extras ppa for it though.
[14:08] <BluesKaj_> tobiasBora, you'll know if you're on plas\ma 5, the whole desktop changes it's "look"
[14:09] <tobiasBora> Ahhh noooo...
[14:09] <alvin> It's a breeze
[14:09] <BluesKaj_> heh
[14:09] <tobiasBora> You mean that KDE will looks like Windows 8 ?
[14:10] <tobiasBora> (And android)
[14:10] <BluesKaj_> which wifi chip alvin?
[14:10] <alvin> rofl, no. Not that.
[14:10] <alvin> BluesKaj_: I wouldn't know. It's tobiasBora who has trouble with the autoconnect. (I have other trouble. Broadcom, grrr...)
[14:11] <alvin> Breeze looks nice for some parts. I don't like Kmail with the Breeze theme, and in Quassel, channels and names are too far apart. It's not really fit for smaller screens.
[14:11] <BluesKaj_> odd alvin I have the bcm 4313 working fine on the laptop with 15.04 and plsama 5
[14:13] <alvin> BCM43228 Bah, bah, bah. Does not work in FreeBSD. Works fine in Kubuntu (closed source), but no promiscuous mode :-(
[14:14] <lordievader> alvin: The open source broadcom driver supports promiscuous mode ;)
[14:15] <alvin> lordievader: Yes, but it does not support that chip :-(
[14:15] <lordievader> alvin: Heh, how fun :P
[14:15] <alvin> I need this package for it to work: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl
[14:15] <alvin> !info bcmwl
[14:16] <alvin> !info bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:16] <alvin> That one
[14:17] <alvin> I tried replacing the card with an Intel one, but the BIOS does not accept it.
[14:17] <lordievader> Jup, that driver doesn't support promiscious mode.
[14:17] <alvin> Buy Lenovo they said. Good Linux support they said....
[14:18] <alvin> It isn't what it used to be. Ever been to Fosdem? Usually you see a lot of IBM Thinkpads. Now it's becoming Apple, and I don't want to give money for a device with glued battery.
[14:20] <Aison0> why is network-manager service not started at startup?
[14:21] <Aison0> I have to call always sudo service network-manager start by hand
[14:22] <BluesKaj_> Aison0, try adding network management to the panel as a widget
[14:24] <alvin> I'd think disabling is harder. Should be enabled by default. I once tested systemd, and it was impossible to disable for more than a few seconds. systemd knew better and enabled it again every time.
[14:24] <Aison0> BluesKaj_, i've got it in the panel!
[14:25] <Aison0> but the widget is says, network-manager is not available. So I have to start it manually then it is recogniced
[14:25] <Aison0> the strange thing is,that I also get the message "Wait for networking... " at startup
[14:25] <Aison0> and then "Wait 60 more seconds.... " or something similiar
[14:26] <Aison0> so startup takes forever
[14:30] <BluesKaj_> Aison0, pls pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces file
[14:31] <Aison0> http://pastebin.com/SHD7wPFV
[14:31] <Aison0> eth1, eth2 and wlan0 are availble for the network manager
[14:36] <BluesKaj_> Aison0, are you using a vpn or some tap connection ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj_> Aison0, for a plain ethernet connection all you need in the interfaces file is this http://privatepaste.com/aef42b247c
[14:41] <BluesKaj_> the tap connection /vpn is usually handled in the network manager, not the interfaces file, I think the other entries are causing a conflict
[15:17] <ghutzriop> Hi, I have kubuntu 14-10 installed and I want to use openvpn as a client. when I use the networkmanager gui, no connection seems to be enabled at all. if I use #sudo openvpn client.ovpn, a connection works, but no dns server is adjusted. that means I have to manually edit resolv.conf. this is far too much work. how to get the networkmanager interface working?
[15:21] <alvin> ghutzriop: When making a connection, check /var/log/syslog for the DNS servers you receive from the OpenVPN server. Also, check  them with nm-tool
[15:22] <alvin> If I'm not mistaken here (OpenVPN works fine for me), Ubuntu uses dnsmasq in combination with network-manager, in order to resolve everything properly. resolv.conf should only contain one nameserver: your localhost.
[15:23] <BluesKaj_> ghutzriop, open the network manager by right clicking on the icon in the pabel then choose nm settings and add then choose edit and add the username and password provided by your vpn server, usually the dns options don't need configuring
[15:23] <alvin> Note that the OpenVPN server should provide those servers.
[15:24] <ghutzriop> BluesKaj_: there is no password, but a certificate
[15:25] <ghutzriop> BluesKaj_: and configuration was done by importing the .ovpn file
[15:25] <alvin> syslog should show something like: NetworkManager[1183]: <info>   Internal DNS: <IP_ADDRESS> (with in this case <IP_ADDRESS>as the remote DNS)
[15:26] <BluesKaj_> ghutzriop, click on the wrench to open the vpn server list then edit and the username and password dialog fields will open
[15:31]  * BluesKaj_ wonders which vpn server he was using that requires manual dns configuration
[15:32] <ghutzriop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9561100/. the vpn seems juit to be ignored, because the ip of eth0 is used, when I use network mananger
[15:34] <ghutzriop> BluesKaj_: it doesn't at any other pc. I have no idea what the problem is, but it is within ubuntu/ubuntu-configuration
[15:37] <ghutzriop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9561141/
[15:38] <ghutzriop> does this mean, that nm just ignores the vpn for routing and dns? (i.e. ignoring it for everything)<info> Policy set 'Kabelnetzwerkverbindung 1' (eth0) as default for IPv4 routing and DNS
[15:41] <BluesKaj_> ghutzriop, does your vpn provide a sh server install file for ubuntu ?
[15:43] <ghutzriop> BluesKaj_: no, it provides a ovpn file, and as I wrote, it a) works everywhere else and b) works when using the command line and editing resolv.conf. it seems that dnsmasq is the issue, becaus it remembers the dns server of eth0 which is unavaiable outside of the campus network.
[16:02] <BluesKaj_> ghutzriop, ok , open /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and comment the dns=dnsmasq line with a # in front. it was a known bug
[16:02] <ghutzriop> BluesKaj_: didn't help. it is still ignored
[16:03] <BluesKaj_> dunno for sure but I think a relogin is needed, ghutzriop
[17:10] <MrDarkUser> hi, I have two computers that I installed by just clonezillaing (dding) a hard drive to two others..  It was an up to date kubuntu, with LVM...  Now it gets dropped to the initramfs and compains that the mapper isn't there... but if i can select the old line on grub, I can make it boot
[17:12] <MrDarkUser> What gets me is that the computers worked just fine until an update
[17:13] <BluesKaj_> so the newest kernel won't boot ?
[17:14] <MrDarkUser> correct, the newer kernel won't boot BluesKaj_
[17:14] <MrDarkUser> ALERT!  /dev/mapper/kubuntu--vg-root does not exist
[17:14] <BluesKaj_> have you tried to update and upgrade with the older kernel, MrDarkUser ?
[17:15] <MoonUnit`> yay solved my problem i had with 14.10, if i rotated my 2nd screen the 1st screen would corrupt, figured out turning off colortiling solved it.
[17:15] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Is lvm2 installed?
[17:15] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: This sounds like an initrd without lvm support.
[17:15] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: This sounds like the right path
[17:16] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: I am comparing the /boot/System.maps between the kernel that works and the one that doesn't..
[17:16] <MrDarkUser> The LVM was installed as the option from the install disk..
[17:16] <MrDarkUser> However, the hard drives changed, so it might be something as simple as a unique identifier for the hard drive
[17:16] <MrDarkUser> as the hard drive changed under the install
[17:17] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Do you get a busybox shell?
[17:17] <MrDarkUser> I did
[17:17] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Did you see your volume group?
[17:18] <BluesKaj_> MrDarkUser, dd may have copied the uuid to the new partition/drive and now can't be found
[17:18] <MrDarkUser> lordievader:  sadly, I don't even know what that is
[17:18] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: lvs -> vgscan
[17:19] <MrDarkUser> BluesKaj_: This is roughtly what I was thinking.. but amazingly the origional  -32 kernel works,  but the -43 doesn't so I think the grub config maker thing doesn't check the id of the partition
[17:20] <MrDarkUser> lordievader:  Found volume group "kubuntu-vg" using metadata type lvm2
[17:21] <MrDarkUser> (I'm booted into this computer using the -32 kernel)
[17:26] <MrDarkUser> http://superuser.com/questions/256061/lvm-and-cloning-hds     This is the best info I've found so far that seems topical
[17:27] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Perhaps updating the intird works?
[17:28] <MrDarkUser> trying sudo dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools
[17:29] <MrDarkUser> donno how to tell if it will work or not.
[17:35] <MrDarkUser> rebooting, see ya'll in a minute
[17:46] <catproof> lordievader: While at the grub prompt I compaired the entries, they are exactly the same except for the kernel version :o   the new initrd created by doing the dpkg-reconfigure didn't help
[17:47] <catproof> I now have the other computer up so I can try stuff on it while staying online here
[17:47] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: I am not catproof :(   more like catpowned
[17:48] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Mhh, does "lvm -> lvs" show the root fs?
[17:48] <MrDarkUser> this is from the busybox shell?
[17:48] <lordievader> Yes.
[17:50] <MrDarkUser> trying...   ... ...  ... ... got the spash screen... ...  yes...  it shows root kubuntu-vg and swap_1 kubuntu vg
[17:51] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Mount and continue?
[17:51] <MrDarkUser> kubuntu-vg is the 144.89g one and swap is the 3.84g  one...
[17:52] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: could use specific commands here, but am googling in the mean time
[17:52] <MrDarkUser> (i'm pretty sure I had no business doing LVM)
[17:53] <MrDarkUser> but now I get to learn it :o
[17:54] <MrDarkUser> head not found :)  less not found
[17:55] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: ?
[17:55] <MrDarkUser> I'm poking arround the initramfs... and found an lvm.conf
[17:55] <MrDarkUser> it's long
[17:56] <lordievader> MrDarkUser: Most of the times that needs no modifications...
[17:56] <lordievader> Could you describe the problem again in full?
[17:56] <MrDarkUser> Just trying to read it while in busybox...
[17:58] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: I installed kubuntu on a hard drive, then when it was all working I cloned the disk and put it on two other computers, They booted fine and I thought that was the end of it...  after an update cycle, the computers won't boot.  They go to a busybox shell and complain about /dev/mapper not being there and no kubuntu--vg
[17:58] <MrDarkUser> but I can select the old kernel from grub, and the computers to boot
[17:58] <lordievader> Hmm, and that was with a kernel update?
[17:59]  * lordievader starting to think that that kernel update is borked.
[17:59] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: Me thinks so.. from -32 to -40 and -43
[17:59] <MrDarkUser> I would have thought this would have worked.. especially if i were cloning the drive for archive purposes
[18:00] <MrDarkUser> but I just did it to have identically configured machines to deploy
[18:01] <lordievader> You mentioned the clones worked before?
[18:01] <MrDarkUser> yes they did
[18:01] <MrDarkUser> they came right up, no complaints
[18:02] <lordievader> So the problem does not lie in the cloning.
[18:02] <BluesKaj_> hmm, perhaps remove the new kernel, then upgrade or dist-upgrade in the old kernel to draw down the new one
[18:02] <MrDarkUser> well, considering that the UUID of the volume changed,  I don't know how I would expect ubuntu to know that happened
[18:03] <MrDarkUser> well I can guess,  it could just grab the id from the disk where it matters that it's from the disk, and grab it from the partition table where that matters...
[18:04] <MrDarkUser> I'm looking in /etc/lvm/backup  and I see the id = "Z8JMxF- yadayada
[18:05] <MrDarkUser> BluesKaj_: I'd rather do a complete reinstall because I need these computers to be bulletproof
[18:06] <MrDarkUser> but I don't really have the time...  the default settings of KDE are near unusable so I have to change all kinds of settings and now it's a matter of pride :o
[18:07] <MrDarkUser> wow..  busybox doesn't have diff :(
[18:12] <MrDarkUser> I think I'm going to try the pvchange --uuid /dev/sda
[18:19] <BluesKaj_> MrDarkUser, dd usually only works with uuid properly if it transfers to the same drive on a different partition in my experience
[18:21] <MrDarkUser> I used clonezilla, and I was ballsey enough to tell people that this should work because it's not like windows where it complains on every device change about reactivating...  :p  So I'm quite the fool
[18:22] <MrDarkUser> there should be some way to fix this... the initramfs tools must take the HD signature from something other than the the filesystem
[18:22] <BluesKaj_> MrDarkUser, sorry, thought you used dd for some reason
[18:22] <MrDarkUser> BluesKaj_: Clonezilla basically did a dd... :(  I think I saw the command it ran
[18:23] <BluesKaj_> ok
[18:26] <MrDarkUser> I'm making new install media :(  To do the pvchange I can't have the device mounted
[18:37] <MrDarkUser> any other places I should look for LVM hell?
[18:53] <MrDarkUser> ha, I have succesfully made one of the computers not boot at all.. :(  vgimoprtclone nuked me
[18:54] <MrDarkUser> (it renamed the volume  kubuntu-vg1 instead of kubuntu-vg and now even the old kernel doesn't boot
[18:55] <MrDarkUser> however.. I was just able to make it boot :)  the initramfs scripts put kubuntu--vg-root in there instead of kubuntu.. wait that still didn't boot :(
[19:17] <MrDarkUser> Well the uuid changing command didn't fix it, and I did find a way to rename the volume back to what it was
[19:30] <MrDarkUser> https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/06/msg00248.html
[19:30] <MrDarkUser> This is the bug!  It is severe
[19:59] <street> Graf_Westerholt, Cant find the death mask in the king chalice mod
[20:00] <street> oops wrong channel
[21:58] <ljetibo> https://paste.kde.org/pqcwauqjr I'm sorry if the question's a bit longer. But the issue is simple, I just don't know the /etc/interfaces commands to do it myself.
[22:03] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: The debian bug provided a script that worked, This is a severe bug, and I'm surprised it isn't solved yet :o
[22:05] <MrDarkUser> lordievader: it was initramfs-tools missing the loading of the lvm module... I was able to modprobe lvm from initramfs and run the vg something -av  then control-D and the computer booted...
[22:05] <MrDarkUser> the script made it work by adding the same to the initramfs scripts
[22:53] <Dave__> Hey, stupid question -- where is the tool for managing user accounts in Plasma 5?
[22:56] <Dave__> never mind -- I've installed kuser :)