[08:37] <Tripke> hello
[08:37] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:37] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:38] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:38] <ubuntu_kip> Ill need windows
[08:38] <nickrud> obli: I know, but there are some other options there; you could read up on xkb (I find it hard going)
[08:38] <obli> oh, ok
[08:39] <mephis1987> hello
[08:39] <mephis1987> how can i get this : libg++<IP_ADDRESS>-glibc2.2
[08:39] <ubuntu_kip> is there the lexmark prog on linux
[08:39] <mephis1987> this package libg++<IP_ADDRESS>-glibc2.2
[08:39] <Tripke> mephis1987: apt-get install file
[08:39] <mephis1987>  how can i get it
[08:39] <obli> Are there any regional ubuntu channels?
[08:39] <mephis1987> i cant find it in synaptic
[08:39] <nalioth> ubuntu_kip: let us watch our language, please
[08:39] <ubuntu_kip> srry
[08:40] <Tripke> hello
[08:40] <Tripke> common_functions.php 158 /usr/bin/mbmon InitMBInfo: Operation not permitted This program needs "setuid root"!!
[08:40] <Tripke> what to i need to do ?
[08:40] <Tripke> its phpsysinfo ...
[08:40] <ubuntu_kip> is there the lexmark prog on linux
[08:40] <mephis1987> Tripke, i tried but it said no package foudn
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > hi all
[08:40] <orangehaw> obli, check /list
[08:40] <Tripke> mephis1987: apt-cache search
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > any suggestion for a linux game like age of empire (apart from freeciv)
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > ?
[08:40] <NoWhereMan[away] > :)
[08:40] <smog> Does ubuntu come with ssh installed?
[08:40] <Eubey> when i try to install emacs21 it says unmet dependencies emacs21-in-common
[08:40] <HedgeMage> ubuntu_kip: lexmark laser printers are very well-supported under linux, their inkjet printers are generally poorly or not supported under linux
[08:41] <mephis1987> Tripke, nothing found :9
[08:42] <nickrud> Eubey: um, I don't show that package, did you copy the name wrong?
[08:42] <ubuntu_kip> hedge that means that ill need windows
[08:42] <bimberi> smog: client yes, server no (install the ssh package for that)
[08:43] <linuxcrazy> I have this problem with Ubuntu. I get his message when I try to install this package called gxine. I get this "c compiler cannot create executables in $PATH. What does this mean?
[08:43] <HappyFool> emacs21-bin-common, probably
[08:43] <smog> How would I intall the ssh package?
[08:43] <smog> apt-get install ssh-server?
[08:43] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: install build-essential, although gxine is available inthe ubuntu repositories
[08:43] <bimberi> smog: sudo aptitude install ssh
[08:43] <Tripke> mephis1987: lol
[08:43] <linuxcrazy> I'm pretty much of a noob so try to be as strupid as you can
[08:43] <Tripke> apt-cache search g++2.8.1
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> can ubuntu rn on mac?
[08:44] <linuxcrazy> stupid*
[08:44] <Tripke> ubuntu_kip: ye
[08:44] <arrinmurr> is there some kind of autostart directory in gnome? the same way kde has ~/.kde/Autostart?
[08:44] <nickrud> if that's so, Eubey's sources need work
[08:44] <linuxcrazy> wait, so what do I do?
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> i have a g3
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> the blue one
[08:44] <bimberi> !info gxine
[08:44] <ubotu> gxine: (the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 247 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[08:44] <ubuntu_kip> !mac
[08:44] <ubotu> ubuntu_kip: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:45] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: you need to enable the universe repository and then use synaptic to find and install gxine
[08:45] <Eubey> it says emacs21-nox: Depends: emacs21-bin-common
[08:45] <bimberi> !tell linuxcrazy about synaptic
[08:45] <Jhair> arrinmurr: System->Preferences->Sessions->Startup Programs
[08:45] <bimberi> !tell linuxcrazy about universe
[08:45] <ubuntu_kip> good bye linux ;_;
[08:45] <arrinmurr> Jhair: thank you
[08:45] <aarkerio> Hi!    has Dapper NTFS write support?
[08:45] <gnomefreak> Eubey: does it ask if you would like to continue?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: dapper please try #ubntu+1
[08:46] <ubuntu_kip> now how do i format that partion? to fat or ntfs
[08:46] <Eubey> nope, says E: unableto correct problems, you have held bken packages.
[08:46] <nickrud> Eubey: could you post your /etc/apt/sources file on paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[08:46] <xcel> hey!!! onyone can helt me with a noob thing, "sudo apt-get install ftpd" doesn't work.. how do i install it?
[08:46] <aarkerio> Hi!    has Breezy NTFS write support?
[08:46] <bimberi> aarkerio: the dapper install offers it.  But *shudder* :)
[08:46] <Eubey> kk i will try
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: no
[08:46] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: i wouldnt try it just yet on dapper either
[08:47] <aarkerio> need I compile the kernel?
[08:47] <nickrud> xcel: please put your /etc/sources.list on  paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:47] <nickrud> xcel: */etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <linuxcrazy> I dont't want to use sysnaptic. I want to learn how to compile from a terminal.
[08:47] <gnomefreak> aarkerio: for what? what are you trying to do?
[08:47] <xcel> nickrud, ive checked that and its like two lines
[08:47] <_jason> ubuntu_kip: tell linuxcrazy about compile
[08:47] <_jason> argh
[08:47] <Falstius> linuxcrazy: check out LFS ...
[08:47] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: why not just install from terminal
[08:47] <nickrud> xcell, there should be a 30-40 lines
[08:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell linuxcrazy about compile
[08:47] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: ok, 'sudo aptitude install gxine'  (once you enable universe)
[08:47] <HappyFool> compiling is highly overrated
[08:48] <Fawzib> Jhair: ok, if I remove the --background option it works, but I need that option
[08:48] <linuxcrazy> I want to learn how to compile.
[08:48] <Eubey> nickrud: how do i paste it there?
[08:48] <nalioth> linuxcrazy: look to your priv msgs
[08:48] <linuxcrazy> where are my private messages?
[08:48] <xcel> nickrud, deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386
[08:49] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: check that 'compile' factoid from ubotu then
[08:49] <xcel> (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[08:49] <nickrud> Eubey: open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then in a terminal, type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Cut and paste to the pastebin
[08:49] <gnomefreak> xcel: use pastebin please
[08:49] <neri_> hi
[08:50] <neri_> testing first irc connection with ubuntu
[08:50] <nickrud> xcel: replace all that with  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[08:50] <linuxcrazy> wherea are my private messages?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: what app are you using?
[08:51] <linuxcrazy> um this IRC on bmkfolding.com
[08:51] <nickrud> Eubey: um copy & paste :)
[08:51] <gnomefreak> never heard of that sorry
[08:51] <Eubey> nickrud: kk its done
[08:51] <bimberi> nickrud: does "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" work properly for you in breezy?  For me it opens an empty file called sources.list'  (note the quote).  Seems to be an issue with gksudo. Fine in dapper though
[08:51] <linuxcrazy> where do I check my private messages on this irc?
[08:51] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: how can i set my gcc to gcc-3.4?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: did you install gcc3.4?
[08:52] <nickrud> bimberi: I'm on dapper, but don't remember that happening
[08:52] <linuxboyfriend> gnomefreak: yes
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> I dop have gcc installed yes.
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> x the p
[08:52] <theine> linuxboyfriend: what do you want to compile?
[08:52] <linuxcrazy> gxine
[08:52] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install it on mac
[08:52] <gnomefreak> ok nickrud  might beable to help me with this its export_CC=gcc3.4 right?
[08:53] <Eubey> nickrud: i put it on that site
[08:53] <linuxcrazy> i get teh same message with everything I compile
[08:53] <linuxboyfriend> i have installed both gcc 3.4 and 4.0 but i want my system to use gcc-3.4
[08:53] <nickrud> Eubey: remove lines 39, 41, & 43 ; uncomment (remove the #) from lines 19 & 20 , then add multiverse to the ends of lines 19 & 20
[08:53] <theine> linuxcrazy: try "export CC=gcc-3.4" before running ./configure
[08:53] <linuxcrazy> ok
[08:53] <pjz> you don't have to export it
[08:53] <pjz> you can just put it on the same line
[08:53] <gnomefreak> linuxboyfriend: thats the command that theine just posted
[08:53] <pjz> CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[08:53] <nickrud> gnomefreak: I think all of gnome is compiled with gcc4 , beagle probably should be as well. I may be mistaken
[08:54] <bimberi> nickrud: kk (works fine with sudo btw, seems to be something with gksudo)
[08:54] <gnomefreak> nickrud: breezy kernel was compiled with 3.4  i dont know what they are compiling
[08:54] <nickrud> gnomefreak: yeah, gcc-3.4 for anything kernel,  beable <-- I read that as beagle :)
[08:54] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac
[08:54] <gnomefreak> build-essential has always worked for me
[08:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[08:55] <ubuntu_> sweet
[08:55] <ubuntu_> unubtu live cd!!
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_: put the mac iso cd in and boot to cdrom
[08:55] <nickrud> bimberi: ah, the old gksudo/sudo shuffle :)
[08:55] <shiggity> ^_^
[08:55] <Eubey> nickrud: how can i tell which lines r which
[08:56] <jemt> Greetings. I have just reinstalled Ubuntu and are now trying to install Java 1.5. Earlier I did it by doing 'apt-get install sun-j2re1.5' - but the package is no longer available - so I guess I'm missing a repository in my souces.list file. Can anyone help me?
[08:56] <nickrud> Eubey: the page you posted on paste.ubuntu-nl.org has the line numbers
[08:56] <truz24> Are there any known reasons for Mysql 5 not being on the ubuntu repositories?
[08:56] <jemt> !java
[08:56] <gnomefreak> jemt: it never was avalible in ubuntu
[08:56] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:56] <bimberi> nickrud: that was a Boz Scaggs (sp) song wasn't it? :)
[08:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jemt about javadebs
[08:56] <nickrud> rflol
[08:56] <jemt> gnomefreak: Well, as I said, I probably added a repository
[08:56] <arrinmurr> jemt: http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[08:57] <nickrud> bimberi spells good
[08:57] <Zarephath> Hey can anyone shed some light on how old a GeForce6200 TC is? I am not sure if I need to use the legacy drivers or the new ones?
[08:57] <jemt> arrinmurr: Checking :)
[08:57] <bimberi> nickrud: ta
[08:57] <theine> truz24: it is in the Dapper repositories
[08:57] <truz24> but dapper isn't in production
[08:57] <gnomefreak> yes it is it just hasnt been released
[08:57] <theine> truz24: no, you'd have to wait, but maybe there's a backport somewhere
[08:58] <gnomefreak> theine: not yet
[08:58] <truz24> is dapper strong?
[08:58] <truz24> or are there tons of bugs?
[08:58] <HappyFool> ducks... err, dragons are known for their strength
[08:58] <gnomefreak> truz24: compared to redhat always
[08:58] <Zarephath> gnomefreak: Is XGL enabled upon in install with Flight 5?
[08:58] <G0SUB> truz24: very strong
[08:58] <savon> !past
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Zarephath: no
[08:58] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, savon
[08:58] <Zarephath> *install*
[08:58] <pinkisntwell> will we get gnome 2.14 on breezy?
[08:58] <savon> !paste
[08:58] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[08:58] <gnomefreak> thank goodness :)
[08:59] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell: hasnt been backported yet havent heard either way
[08:59] <pab32> does ubuntu have usb drive issues?
[08:59] <nickrud> Eubey: I pasted the changes you should make; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10352
[08:59] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: thanks
[08:59] <Zarephath> pab32: Probably not...
[08:59] <linuxcrazy> ok here it is verbatum "c compiler cannot create executables"
[08:59] <bimberi> linuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential
[08:59] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac
[08:59] <savon> I can=t install things!
[08:59] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10353
[08:59] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:59] <_jason> linuxcrazy: install build-essential
[08:59] <Jelte> hiya guys.... the network led's on my machine are blinking away and in network tools i can see data going in and out.. but I'm not doing anything... could my machine be compromized? and if so how can i check?  how can i see what process is sending / receiving data?
[08:59] <Zarephath> Ubuntu is the ONLY distro I have installed and use that works completely as it should from install to work
[09:00] <savon> whats wrong?
[09:00] <ubuntu_kip> hoiw do i install ubuntu on mac on a g3
[09:00] <ftg2> truz24: its not "debian stable".. if you have used a debian sid installation before you know what to expect
[09:00] <Zarephath> Jelte: Look in /var/log
[09:00] <theine> savon: what's the command that gave you those error messages?
[09:00] <tristanmike> ubuntu_kip, you need the PPC install iso
[09:00] <pab32> cannot boot ubuntu, stops at when loading hotplug. any ideas?
[09:00] <bimberi> linuxboy: don't worry about the GCC=gcc-3.4 stuff, that was for linuxboyfriend (a case of mistaken identity due to nick proximity :) )
[09:00] <_jason> savon: sudo apt-get update
[09:00] <gnomefreak> savon: can you try for the whole error?
[09:00] <nickrud> Jelte: you can see what connections you have open with netstat -t ; also sudo netstat -tlp tells you what services you have listening for connections
[09:01] <Jelte> thanks guys!
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> install what?
[09:01] <gnomefreak> build-essential
[09:01] <Zarephath> pab32: Well try passing kernel params at boot...my machine needs the "noapic" on the line with the default boot kernel
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> tell me again how to install it?
[09:01] <bimberi> linuxboy: sudo aptitude install buld-essential
[09:01] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: sudo apt-get install build-essetial
[09:01] <linuxcrazy> ok
[09:01] <pab32> thanks man
[09:01] <_jason> linuxcrazy: use gnomefreak command, bimberi made a type :)
[09:01] <savon> gnomefreak: What do you meane?
[09:02] <_jason> typo*
[09:02] <Yokalosh> has anyone managed to set up two monitors on a nvidia geforce fx 5200 twin head?
[09:02] <gnomefreak> savon: i mean run sudo apt-get update and paste what the full  windows says
[09:02] <Zarephath> Pab32: Another more common problem is with ACPI..so pass acpi=off if the noapic option doesn't work for you
[09:02] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh... wondering same thing
[09:02] <gnomefreak> in pastebin please
[09:02] <savon> Okey!
[09:02] <bimberi> _jason: gah, thanks for the catch, and lol for the irony :P
[09:02] <linuxcrazy> haha gnomefreak also made a typo
[09:03] <Yokalosh> azurehuesofblue: :(
[09:03] <_jason> linuxcrazy: ha yes he did
[09:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:03] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> it's not essetial
[09:03] <gnomefreak> i know
[09:03] <gnomefreak> :(
[09:03] <Yokalosh> i need it bad, at the moment on my second screen its just a bunch of jumbled junk
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> sorry
[09:03] <bimberi> the problem is we all race each other to type it
[09:03] <Yokalosh> but i do have 'something' which is a start ;)
[09:03] <linuxcrazy> here I go.
[09:04] <jemt> How do I set another Virtual Machine as the prefered Java Intepretor in Ubuntu? I think I can do it using dpkg-reconfigure or something like that. It should be pretty simple
[09:04] <_jason> !multijava
[09:04] <ubotu> from memory, multijava is to try to set which java is used, run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[09:04] <theine> jemt: use update-alternatives
[09:04] <theine> ah, nice
[09:04] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh, yah same here... multi head 5500
[09:04] <jemt> Ah yea, update-alternatives - thanks :)
[09:04] <savon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10355
[09:04] <gnomefreak> didnt know ubotu had it in him to know that lol
[09:04] <azurehuesofblue> jumbled junk on one screen.
[09:05] <_jason> savon: try your command again that gave you the error before
[09:05] <theine> savon: that looks fine
[09:05] <gnomefreak> wiki.ubuntu.com seach for dualdisplay
[09:05] <azurehuesofblue> k
[09:05] <gnomefreak> savon: looks good
[09:05] <savon> Yess now it woorks agien!
[09:05] <Yokalosh> azurehuesofblue: have you found ANYTHING?
[09:05] <savon> What was wrong_
[09:05] <gnomefreak> they needed to be refrreshed
[09:06] <savon> ok!
[09:06] <linuxcrazy> hey you guys, check out this cool computer forum. www.maximumpc.com/forum
[09:06] <Eubey> nickrud: now it says E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavail able)
[09:06] <Eubey> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc ess using it?
[09:06] <tristanmike> Eubey, close synaptic
[09:06] <nickrud> Eubey: may I pm you?
[09:06] <linuxcrazy> whoops www.maximumpc.com/forums check it out.
[09:06] <nickrud> Eubey: there's a couple other things, might take a bit.
[09:07] <azurehuesofblue> well yeah, I tried to edit my xorg.conf file a few time according to other examples, but then it said it couldn't find a screen on boot up... so, anyways, there is a backup file incase you mess it up... but... it's hard for a n00b lol
[09:07] <Gambit-> hrm
[09:07] <truz24> odd, i click on the torrent link and it starts downloading the iso of FLIGHT5
[09:07] <Eubey> nickrud: ya
[09:07] <Gambit-> can someone explain to me wtf mutt depends on /postfix/?!
[09:07] <ubuntu_kip> tristan
[09:07] <servjew> hola, mplayer keeps nagging me for a font. where are fonts ?
[09:07] <ubuntu_kip> howe do i burn the mac iso
[09:07] <linuxcrazy> are any of you guys on the MPC forums?
[09:07] <theine> truz24: that's how it should be, no?
[09:07] <Eubey> nickrud: i can see your pm, can you see mine?
[09:07] <HE1> Can any of you guys give me some help with getting my wifi to work? ( Im on a Acer Laptop , WIfi is a PCI Linksys wkpc54g v 4 ) I tried Ndiswrapper, but it want accept the inf file.
[09:07] <truz24> No, i should get the torrent file, its redirecting to the iso from a webserver
[09:07] <nickrud> Eubey: make it easier, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <azurehuesofblue> Yokalosh, it's all about configuring your xorg.conf file right I believe. but no luck yet.
[09:08] <theine> truz24: the torrent file is directly passed to gnome-btdownload
[09:08] <savon> Know I have a new problem, I tied to install Ati in the week, it all seams to woork good, But after restart, X could not start!
[09:08] <bimberi> servjew: try the package called mplayer-fonts
[09:08] <FireGFX> can someone help me set up dual monitors?
[09:08] <truz24> I'm not in gnome, i'm in windows
[09:08] <truz24> its doing it on the server side
[09:08] <truz24> dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent is the link
[09:08] <savon> What can be wrong!
[09:08] <kbrooks> i want to review ubuntu. what in ubuntu shouldi review? BTW, this will hopefully be a non biased review...
[09:09] <theine> truz24: ah, ok
[09:09] <servjew> ah! right, i forgot about that one, thanks bimberi :)
[09:09] <truz24> and that link resolves to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/dapper-install-i386.iso.torrent
[09:09] <truz24> but if you click it, it starts downloading the iso
[09:09] <truz24> instead of a torrent file
[09:09] <kbrooks> and i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment.
[09:09] <jemt> I have just exstracted the Java JDK in /opt/ - how do I register it so it is displayed in 'update-alternatives --config java' ?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> truz24: did you pick the torrent download?
[09:09] <truz24> yeah
[09:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell jemt about java
[09:09] <lowfi> dapper isn't unstable at all
[09:10] <truz24> try it from this page
[09:10] <truz24> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/
[09:10] <theine> truz24: indeed
[09:10] <gnomefreak> lowfi: yes it is
[09:10] <truz24> kbrooks, I was just explained to that flight5 is stable.
[09:10] <sgrgc> ububuntu kubuntu
[09:10] <gnomefreak> lowfi: did you have any problems getting sound to work in ubuntu?
[09:10] <kbrooks> truz24, "dapper".
[09:10] <ftg2> jemt: its a lot easier if you add the multiverse repos, apt-get install java-package, and then use make-jpkg sun.bin.file to create a deb... then install the deb and update-alternatives
[09:11] <lowfi> ok your right, sound is a problem
[09:11] <truz24> kbrooks, what about it?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> lowfi: my point was i didnt have sound issues
[09:11] <Samineru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10357 I was installing pango when this happened
[09:11] <kbrooks> truz24, i said "dapper".
[09:11] <kbrooks> "i dont want to review dapper. its too unstable at the moment."
[09:12] <kbrooks> so, kuja.
[09:12] <kuja> Hm?
[09:13] <truz24> kbrooks, flight5 is pre-dapper
[09:13] <kbrooks> truz24, and?
[09:13] !lilo:*! Wheeeeee! Remember when we hit 30,000 users, but it wasn't official? We just hit about 30,027 in time for Gelhausen to mark it officially. In about an hour or two, the new record should appear on http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days and we should be on a new graph scale in a day or so :)
[09:13] <kuja> Dapper is screwed for me :D
[09:13] !lilo:*! Kind of neat :)
[09:13] <kbrooks> truz24, you're telling me its stable?
[09:13] !lilo:*! Assuming some really quick dip didn't happen, we are definitely over the top
[09:13] <kuja> Hm, the reason why I can't use setkeycodes to appropriately let my Korean/English key work is I think because of some xorg.conf setting that I'm unaware of that may have changed in Dapper -_-
[09:14] !lilo:*! Kind of a nice feeling.
[09:14] <truz24> kbrooks, no, i'm saying that the other folks in here said it was stable.
[09:15] <kuja> Stable? Heh, there's like loads of packages coming in every hour or so.
[09:15] <_jason> how can I apply an awk command only to a particular range of lines?
[09:15] <savon> !ati
[09:15] <kuja> Coming in, and being updated.
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[09:15] <savon> !xorg
[09:15] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[09:15] <fromvega> Hello
[09:15] <kbrooks> truz24, well, i havent tried flight5 yet, and i dont want to install vmware server just to get a working flight5 installation.
[09:15] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine in the local
[09:15] <fromvega> ops
[09:15] <nickrud> Samineru: you need libfontconfig1-dev ; you're gonna run into that a lot of those kinds of errors
[09:16] <truz24> Why do you have to install vmware server? whats wrong with vmware workstation?
[09:16] <GTX> ./setup.sh: line 143: 11644 Segmentation fault      "$setup" "$@" 2>>$NULL
[09:16] <GTX> The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1
[09:16] <GTX> How can I fix that?
[09:16] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access it from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts?
[09:16] <Samineru> nickrud would I be able to find that under synaptics?
[09:17] <nickrud> Samineru: yes
[09:17] <linuxcrazy> hey that worked!
[09:18] <linuxcrazy> where's the place to download the VLC package for Ubuntu?
[09:18] <_jason> linuxcrazy: universe
[09:18] <frank23> linuxcrazy: use synaptics (activate universe)
[09:18] <frank23> !tell linuxcrazy about sources
[09:19] <linuxcrazy> pleeeeeze i need to learn how to compile a package. now where do I get VLC
[09:19] <frank23> linuxcrazy: you don't need to compile it.
[09:19] <linuxcrazy> but I want to compile it!
[09:20] <frank23> linuxcrazy: ok then get it from the vlc webpage
[09:20] <linuxcrazy> I'm on the vlc now. I only see it for other distros
[09:20] <kingspawn> the source, for other distros?
[09:20] <savon> is there any terminalbased text editor?
[09:20] <_jason> linuxcrazy: you want the source
[09:20] <kingspawn> unlikely
[09:20] <frank23> linuxcrazy: download the source (tar.gz or something)
[09:20] <ftg2> savon: a couple dozen
[09:20] <zezu> Where are the gnome window manager settings at in ubuntu ? I want to change my desktop theme around a bit and noticed i dont know where its @ on ubuntu
[09:20] <_jason> savon: vim, nano are two
[09:20] <ftg2> savon: i like vim. before that i used jed
[09:21] <linuxcrazy> what's the difference betreen source and the program?
[09:21] <savon> Nice
[09:21] <frank23> savon: nano is easy to start with
[09:21] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: source is .. the source code, the line by line "definition" of the program. the program is what you see when yuo start it up.
[09:21] <zezu> linuxcrazy, the source is text, its the makeup of how you create the application, it must be compiled into binary form to run executed
[09:21] <savon> ok, i think i need to reconfig xorg via the terminal!
[09:21] <ftg2> kingspawn: he doesn't undestand what compiling is.. makes explaining source a little difficult
[09:22] <jemt> I would prefer to install Java in a correct manner, but by installing fake-root and stuff like that as the Wiki tells me to. I have downloaded Java from SUNs website - is it possible to register the installation in update-alternatives so that I can make the VM the default intepretor on my system?
[09:22] <linuxcrazy> I see debian, mandrake and suse, but there's nowhere to download vlc Ubuntu
[09:22] <kingspawn> ftg2: true.. :)
[09:22] <jemt> but = not
[09:22] <nickrud> zezu: for themes, system-pref-themes
[09:22] <savon> it not whant to start x after the installation of ati!
[09:22] <zezu> nickrud, thx
[09:22] <_jason> linuxcrazy: link?
[09:22] <zezu> but i dont see a prefs.
[09:22] <sebastian> isnt the debian package working under ubuntu?
[09:22] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: just look below them
[09:22] <fromvega> I have created some Virtual Hosts in Apache, and they are working fine when I try to access them from the same PC. But when I try to access the Virtual Hosts from another machine in the same local network, It does not work. What do I need to do to be able to access theses Virtual Hosts? Could you help-me?
[09:22] <kingspawn> it says "Source code"
[09:23] <frank23> linuxcrazy: look for the source code. it's not specific to a distrbution
[09:23] <nickrud> zezu: I was lazy - top menu bar, System->Preferences->Themes
[09:23] <savon> sebastina .deb is woorking!
[09:23] <zezu> err nvm i had removed it somehow from the menu
[09:23] <savon> now i gonna restart!
[09:23] <linuxcrazy> wait. do i have to install all of those other packages in order for vlc to work?!
[09:23] <sebastian> ok
[09:23] <ulisse> hello people
[09:24] <jaycee_N770> evening all.
[09:24] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: by God, man, get vlc through synaptic. you are not ready for source code yet.
[09:24] <RustyJames> does somone nnow an mp3 player where it is possible to mark a part of the song and then play this part in loop?
[09:24] <frank23> linuxcrazy: not sure what you're talking about but you will need a bunch of packages just to compile it
[09:24] <_jason> linuxcrazy: the source will usually have an INSTALL and/or README file listing the dependencies you need
[09:24] <alteroo> linuxcrazy: is there a reason why u want to install? you dont seem to know alot about what you are doing?
[09:24] <ulisse> anybody knows if the wine issue have been fixed in dapper yet?
[09:24] <linuxcrazy> I'm sorry, I'm just a stupid n00b at this
[09:25] <frank23> linuxcrazy: it's way easier to just use synaptics to install it
[09:25] <CarinArr> ulisse, try #ubuntu+1
[09:25] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: its a nice idea to get to know it, but you need a little bit more background before you set out to compile sourcecode
[09:25] <sebastian> linuxcrazy: just type apt-get install vlc
[09:25] <Eubey> join $ubtuntu+1
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> I just want to learn how to install from a compiler.
[09:25] <alteroo> linuxcrazy: so why do you want to install from source? get the deb from synaptic
[09:25] <ulisse> CarinArr, never heard about, I'll check ;)
[09:25] <zezu> nickrud, themes are just GTK themes or are GNOME themes or ?
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> you guys learned.
[09:25] <CarinArr> ulisse, that's where dapper questions go:)
[09:25] <linuxcrazy> i need to learn this stuff
[09:25] <ulisse> ty
[09:25] <jaycee_N770> Does anyone do /home sharing (and other partitions) across anything other than NFS? I'm trying to plan the storage across my home 5+ box network ...
[09:25] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: in a while :)
[09:25] <sebastian> i most cases its just ./condigure , make , make install
[09:26] <truz24> Someone fixed the torrent link :-)
[09:26] <truz24> thanks whoever fixed it
[09:26] <void^> manual install is simple, just configure ; make ; make install. now manual uninstall is the real hassle ;)
[09:26] <_jason> linuxcrazy: if you have the source repos for universe enabled you can just issue the 'apt-get source vlc' command to get the source and then compile that
[09:26] <nickrud> zezu: gtk themes are the contents inside the window (controls) window border is the border :) and icons are icons. Together, they make a gnome theme
[09:26] <frank23> void^: substitute make install for checkinstall  (creates a .deb and installs it)
[09:27] <sebastian> frank: thats what i wanted to add
[09:27] <zezu> ok, i know i downloaded a file from freshmeat themes and it said the file format was invalid, so i assumed it was the wrong type for gnome
[09:27] <zielony> How can I upload whole folder to a server, using console 'ftp' ?
[09:27] <jaycee_N770> Anyone do /home sharing across multiple machines?
[09:27] <zezu> the "themes" on the gnome site are nothing more than png files ;|
[09:28] <zezu> some of them anyways
[09:28] <jemt> Is it possible to make 'java' point to /opt/jdk1.5/bin/java ? That would, I guess, count for a "real" java installation. Also I need to point NetBeans to that location, but I think I can handle that
[09:28] <kingspawn> zielony: put?
[09:28] <nickrud> zezu: you want gtk themes, metacity (window border) themes and icon themes. (and yes, some come out badly in my experience, too)
[09:28] <zielony> but put dont work with folder
[09:29] <GURT> can someone help me get java working in firefox? i installed java from http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[09:29] <kingspawn> zielony: put -R?
[09:29] <painkiler> hey guys
[09:29] <_jason> GURT: what version of firefox?
[09:29] <painkiler> how do i give premisson to users so they can view an ntfs hdd?
[09:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell painkiler about ntfs
[09:29] <GURT> _jason: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:29] <frank23> jemt: why don't you just follow the wiki instructions for java. It's better to install a .deb if you can
[09:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell GURT about ff1.5
[09:29] <sebastian> painkiler: via fstab?
[09:29] <painkiler> ? donno
[09:30] <_jason> GURT: just do the plugin step on that wiki page (you just symlink to your firefox1.07 plugins directory)
[09:30] <painkiler> ill work on it
[09:30] <sebastian> painkiler; wait a second
[09:30] <zielony> ftp> put -R
[09:30] <zielony> remote: -R
[09:30] <zielony> local: -R: No such file or directory
[09:30] <zielony> kingspawn:
[09:30] <jemt> frank23: Why is it better? What happens when Java 5 Update 7 is released? Then I haft to wait weeks - maybe months - before a .deb is produced
[09:31] <Samineru> nickrud thanks, that worked
[09:31] <ftg2> jemt: this is not exactly what you are looking for, but you can add the path to the java binaries to PATH before the location of the other java installation(s).. i agree with frank23 though. follow the wiki instructions, create a deb. saves a lot of hassel
[09:31] <_jason> jemt: no, because you create the .deb
[09:31] <frank23> jemt: no, you can make a .deb from the .bin if you follow the instructions
[09:31] <kingspawn> zielony: okay. here's what you do, to get a real ftp client: apt-get install ncftp
[09:31] <kingspawn> and then start ncftp
[09:31] <sebastian> painkiler: im not sure, in my fstab it looks like this  /dev/xxx/ media/xxx ntfs uid=1000,gid=1000,       0       0
[09:31] <painkiler> its ok
[09:31] <painkiler> i just got the auto script
[09:31] <zielony> kingspawn: but I have to upload it from ssh, I can`t install anything there, dont have root acces
[09:31] <jemt> ftg2, _jason, frank23: Yeah, true - I can create it my self - but why should I? I should be possible to install the software from SUN
[09:31] <sebastian> ok
[09:31] <GURT> _jason: bash: cd: /opt/firefox/plugins/: No such file or directory
[09:32] <_jason> GURT: change it to wherever you installed firefox1.5
[09:32] <ftg2> jemt: hehe. believe me its easy. i did it in 10 mins on this laptop before class. needed javac running for the lab ;)
[09:32] <lowfi> painkiller: i think the default for ntfs mount is +rx for all users, so it should work
[09:32] <jemt> And it IS possible - I have the VM extracted to my /opt/ directory now. I just don't want to type in '/opt/java/bin/java myProgram' each time I want to test one of my programs
[09:32] <ardchoille> Any truth to the rumor of a 6 week delay of stable release?
[09:32] <Enthusiast78> I'm trying to run something from the console to display a message on the X session... I'm starting with 'DISPLAY=:0.0 gedit /tmp/textfile.txt' but maybe somebody know another application that does just that task...
[09:32] <sebastian> I have a strange Bug running  Looking glass lg3d-app, anyone knows about it?
[09:33] <jemt> ftg2: I just don't feel it's the right way of doing it
[09:33] <_jason> jemt: then make a symlink to that somewhere in your PATH
[09:33] <savon> online agien, but it starts with a x dont whanna start thing agien
[09:33] <savon> huuuu
[09:33] <Enthusiast78> I'd like something like 'DISPLAY=:0.0 xpopup Blah, blah, blah...'
[09:33] <frank23> jemt: because in a debian based distribution, it's always better to install with apt or dpkg. the system then knows what you have installed
[09:34] <Enthusiast78> Or if somebody know how to open gedit with some text from the command line... ???
[09:34] <jemt> _jason: I just realised that it's not a good solution. If I start a program from Gnome it will probably stille be intepreted by the old version
[09:34] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: There was a meeting to debate it a couple of days ago, I have no clue what was decided in the end, though, as I went to bed.
[09:34] <Enthusiast78> I have tried 'echo "Some text" | gedit -' but it didn't work... :(
[09:34] <jemt> frank23: Makes sense
[09:34] <GURT> _jason: thanks.
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Enthusiast78: you mean just to start gedit or to edit a file?
[09:35] <jemt> Oh well, guess I haft to create the .deb - thanks guys
[09:35] <_jason> jemt: how come?
[09:35] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: Good to hear from you :)
[09:35] <jemt> !java
[09:35] <nagyv> anyone familiat with the low id problem of amule? I know what it means, but don't know how to solve the problem.
[09:35] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:35] <sebastian> gedit should not be able to run without x
[09:35] <void^> nagyv: open the ports.
[09:35] <sebastian> use nano
[09:35] <gnomefreak> sebastian: it cant you have to have gnome
[09:35] <nagyv> void^: how?
[09:35] <jemt> _jason: Don't know really. Just a thought. How should a symlink keep my programs from running in the old VM?
[09:35] <ncp> what should i choose i locals UTF-8 or ISO-8859? and what is the difference?
[09:35] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: PM?
[09:35] <ftg2> jemt: changing the PATH will work in the short run.. for a long time, before i would start writing code, i would cd in to the jdk bin dir and export PATH=`pwd`:$PATH ... etc
[09:35] <sebastian> ok
[09:36] <jemt> _jason: But it dosn't matter. I'm gonna download Seveas .deb now
[09:36] <_jason> jemt: just put it earlier in your path or get rid of the old one if you really want.  But I really think the .deb is the better option :)
[09:36] <void^> nagyv: if you're behind a router, forward them to your local pc. check your local iptables firewall (try firestarter for simplicity)
[09:36] <jemt> _jason: Thanks - I'll go with the .deb then :)
[09:36] <jemt> !java
[09:36] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:36] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: sure
[09:37] <frank23> jemt: yeah the seveas .deb is probably made with make-jpkg so you get the same result as making it yourself
[09:37] <Seveas> frank23, almost
[09:37] <ncp> what is the difference between UTF-8 and ISO-8859? what should i choose in my locals to get the correct charset?
[09:37] <frank23> Seveas: it's not the same?
[09:37] <Seveas> I patched make-jpkg to not make the package depend on specific versions of libraries
[09:38] <Seveas> so the packages don't generate dependency errors on dapper/breezy/warty/hoary/sid etc...
[09:38] <Seveas> such errors would be quite bogus
[09:38] <frank23> Seveas: ok. so only the dependencies change.
[09:38] <nickrud> ncp: iso 8859 are european characters ; utf8 has the ability to display just about any language, living or dead
[09:38] <Seveas> frank23, correct
[09:39] <jaycee_N770> Anyone got an opinion on the "best" way to mount a filesystem over ssh?  sftp? sshfs? FUSE?
[09:39] <raindog> When using the ubuntu partioning tool to resize my ntfs partition to make room for ubuntu the partitioning tool doesn't appear to do anything, but return to the previous menu.  On my win2k box the tool resized the ntfs without any troulble.  Can anyone help?
[09:39] <EvilDin> anyone here know merak mail server?
[09:39] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, the only way to really mount it is sshfs, which is a FUSE module
[09:39] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, generally i use mc for sftp transfers
[09:39] <Seveas> or nautilus sftp://
[09:40] <jemt> Seveas: Is that good or bad? Does it mean I will be running on old libraries? (Java)
[09:40] <jaycee_N770> Thanks. I found shfs, but it seems out of date
[09:40] <Seveas> jemt, it's good - dh_shlibdeps is a bit too tight in this case
[09:40] <jaycee_N770> I'm looking for a general system-wide solution.
[09:40] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, then you should seriously look at NFS instead
[09:41] <jaycee_N770> Is FUSE mature enough?
[09:41] <frank23> jemt: the files in the package are the same. the same package can be installed on different versions of ubuntu. it's more flexible but exactly the same in the end
[09:41] <Seveas> I consider it mature enough
[09:41] <jaycee_N770> I'm aware of NFS and I've always found performance sucks ...
[09:41] <Seveas> never had problems with sshfs
[09:42] <Seveas> NFS performance is quite ok if you tweak it enough
[09:42] <Seveas> default NFS parameters in linux suck big time
[09:42] <jaycee_N770> Seveas,  thanks. I'll give FUSE a go.
[09:42] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Can I install GNOME 2.14 under Breezy?
[09:42] <jemt> Seveas: Ok, sounds great :)
[09:42] <Seveas> C-O-L-T-AWAY, probably not
[09:43] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Seveas: why?
[09:43] <richard> how can i restart apache services?
[09:43] <Seveas> C-O-L-T-AWAY, if you want gnome 2.14: go with dapper - it's mature and stable enough for everyday use
[09:43] <Seveas> richard, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 restart
[09:43] <apokryphos> richard: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:43] <apokryphos> or that
[09:43] <jaycee_N770> Seveas, just one more - any opinion on which one integrates with ubuntu /and/ LDAP best?
[09:43] <frank23> what is the difference between sun java and blackdown java?
[09:43] <nagyv> void^: I started Firestarter, but there are no banned activities at all. My friends can use eMule in the college, so probably the routers are set up right. Do you have any other ideas?
[09:43] <jind> When is Dapper out?
[09:43] <C-O-L-T-AWAY> Seveas: I should wait till the official release
[09:43] <jind> Aproxemately?
[09:43] <apokryphos> frank23: sun are propietary java packages by sun; blackdown...are not :)
[09:43] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, never having used ldap I really can't say
[09:44] <apokryphos> frank23: most applications are friendlier when run with sun java
[09:44] <jaycee_N770> how about /just/ ubuntu, then? :-)
[09:44] <savon> why is my internet slower on linux?
[09:44] <frank23> apokryphos: yes but they both are sun java's right?
[09:44] <apokryphos> jind: April
[09:44] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, equal
[09:44] <jaycee_N770> ta
[09:44] <apokryphos> jind: some talk of 6-week delay however; sit tight for new news :)
[09:44] <Seveas> point is that sshfs is per-user, if I mount it, even root cannot access it
[09:44] !lilo:*! http://irc.netsplit.de/networks/details.php?net=freenode&point=days has the record :)
[09:44] <Seveas> which can be good or bad depending on your wishes
[09:45] <jaycee_N770> good point
[09:45] <jind> I have heard that too. Just wasn't sure when it was scheduled
[09:45] <Seveas> NFS means you need to synchronise users
[09:45] <simon__> weird keyboard problem. Get intermittant functionality on the client keyboard. starts with appearing disabled at gnome desktop manager, then suddnely starts working after hitting lots of keys. any thoughts. i know keyboard is fine as works ok on staright edubuntu system
[09:45] <jind> I want it to be mature when it arrives. So: good news :)
[09:45] <jaycee_N770> .. but if i base uids on ldap, it might be doable ...
[09:45] <Seveas> I'm very fond of NFS+NIS in a cluster setup, but for my home setup I'd rather use sshfs
[09:45] <frank23> jind: the proposed delayed release is for June 1st
[09:45] <Seveas> yeah, with ldap NFS shouldn't be a problem
[09:46] <jind> nfs is niiiice
[09:46] <jaycee_N770> cool - i'll give them both a go ... :-)
[09:46] <jind> No access control though
[09:46] <jind> Just ro or rw access. But it works well here
[09:46] <jaycee_N770> jind: NFS, you mean?
[09:46] <Seveas> jind, access control is just file permissions
[09:46] <jind> jaycee_N770: sure
[09:47] <Seveas> it works very similar to a local disk
[09:47] <jaycee_N770> I thought it was just normal octal permissions?
[09:47] <Seveas> jaycee_N770, yeah
[09:47] <richard> Seveas, apokryphos: this is the text which appear http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10358
[09:48] <Enthusiast78> gnomefreak, All I need is to display a message on X, like a 'popup'.
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, you probably installed both apache and apache2, remove one of them.
[09:48] <jaycee_N770> great - i'll give them a go ...
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, nvm, i looked wrong
[09:48] <Seveas> richard, use sudo.
[09:48] <wastrel> yay
[09:48] <wastrel> Enthusiast78:  xmessage
[09:48] <aleitner> Is there a way (kernel boot parameter, or so) to disable kernel preemption, without the need to recompile the kernel?
[09:49] <wastrel> Enthusiast78:  also gmessage if you use gtk/gnome
[09:49] <raindog> I'm trying to mount my floppy drive.  Can someone assist me?
[09:49] <Blissex> raindog: yes.
[09:49] <jemt> !Seveas
[09:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:50] <instabin> !wifi
[09:50] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[09:50] <Seveas> !jemt
[09:50] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[09:50] <kingspawn> Blissex: dont you just love those kinds of answers? :)
[09:50] <apokryphos> s/semi/very/ :)
[09:50] <raindog> blissex:  I had it mounted and now it is no longer mounted.  I see it listed in fstab but am unsure what change to make for it to mount, permanently.
[09:50] <Seveas> !forget problem
[09:50] <ubotu> i forgot problem, Seveas
[09:50] <apokryphos> Seveas: any stats on bandy usage?
[09:51] <Blissex> kingspawn: yes :-)
[09:51] <kingspawn> raindog: why would you want your floppy to be mounted permantenly?
[09:51] <Seveas> apokryphos, not publicly accessible
[09:51] <Seveas> !ban cusco
[09:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Seveas
[09:51] <kingspawn> permanently, that is.
[09:51] <apokryphos> Seveas: you should put some up; it would be interesting :)
[09:51] <kYd> hey, which WM is the lightest on resources and space out of gnome,kde or xfce?
[09:51] <techrush> xfce
[09:51] <HedgeMage> kYd: xfce
[09:51] <Blissex> raindog: '/etc/fstab' is for _potential_ mounts. Actual mounts are in '/etc/mtab'.
[09:51] <raindog> kingspawn:  well, to mount it and to have it unmounted after a reboot is a pain.  So, perhaps not permanently, but consistent for the user logged in
[09:52] <kYd> ok thanks...ive got kde atm but it seems sluggish on my laptop
[09:52] <HedgeMage> kYd: of course, if you want *really* light you can go to fluxbox, or fvwm
[09:52] <Blissex> raindog: problem is, if you mount it permanently it must be always the same floppy and you cannot take it out.
[09:52] <ftg2> kYd: i was always a big fan of WindowMaker and that NEXTish look
[09:52] <kYd> i dont really like the look of fluxbox tho
[09:52] <ftg2> kYd: anyways, its pretty lightweight
[09:53] <adam_> Help - I just upgraded to Breezy the other day and now I don't have any sound - at all
[09:53] <kYd> i havnt heard of them ftg2, ill take a loook
[09:53] <kingspawn> raindog: in linux, things must be unmounted before they are removed
[09:53] <Blissex> kYd: I have got excellent ''make KDE faster'' page.
[09:53] <kingspawn> raindog: therefore it makes sense to mount it when you have inserted a new floppy, and unmount it when you remove it
[09:53] <kYd> could you post the link peakse blissex
[09:53] <kYd> *please
[09:53] <Blissex> kYd: yes :-)
[09:53] <kYd> thx
[09:53] <raindog> kingspawn:  so I have to go to the cli every time I put in a new floppy and tell it to mount every timne?
[09:54] <kbrooks> nalioth, well, is there a "how to help other ubuntu users" guide or something?
[09:54] <kYd> cheers
[09:54] <apokryphos> kbrooks: there's a guide to IRC + rules on the wiki if you want to check it out
[09:54] <Blissex> raindog: no, there are easy point-and-click methods of mounting/unmounting from the file explorer...
[09:54] <kingspawn> raindog: a little script will perform it for you very fast
[09:54] <ftg2> kYd: www.windowmaker.org, if you were interested in giving that a spin.
[09:54] <kbrooks> apokryphos, hehe ok i'll settle witth that. IrcRules ?
[09:54] <Blissex> raindog: if you use GNOME or KDE it is pretty similar.
[09:55] <ubushine> anyone use terminal to start apps and get this error message: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"
[09:55] <kYd> cheres ftg2, ill take a look
[09:55] <nalioth> kbrooks: that is it
[09:55] <raindog> blissex kingspawn:  okay, I don't have it mounted currently.  What is the command to mount it?  Then after that I can just enter the file manager and select it to mount/unmount?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> fairly good reading too
[09:55] <jind> kde is the way everything else is gay
[09:55] <jind> Just kidding ;)
[09:55] <Blissex> raindog: you can just mount/unmount from the file manager usually, depending which one you use.
[09:55] <albacker> gnome rox
[09:56] <jke> rox rox ^o)
[09:56] <jind> I really like konqueror with the plugins it provides
[09:56] <Seveas> desktop wars > /dev/null
[09:56] <jind> like imdb: name of movie
[09:56] <ubushine> anyone know how to set (reset) localization?
[09:56] <zF> Hi
[09:56] <Blissex> raindog: or with KDE (but I think also with GNOME) you can have a desktop icon that if you click on it mounts, click again unmounts.
[09:56] <kingspawn> raindog: or mount /dev/<device> /media/floppy - or wherever you like
[09:56] <zF> I'm trying to ssh into my ubuntu box
[09:56] <alteroo> Seveas: your everywhere :-D
[09:56] <Seveas> ubushine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:56] <jind> audiocd:/ for metadirectories with mp3, ogg, flac and the like
[09:56] <Blissex> ubushine: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:56] <einand_> can ubuntu installations program rezise an NTFS partion?
[09:56] <jemt> Seveas: Are you an Ubuntu developer or "just" a package contributer and support?
[09:56] <ubushine> Seveas, ya? thanks
[09:57] <meheren> hey guys i want to do a fresh install on my windows/ubuntu machine about how long ya think it will take? what i plan to do is simply reformat the ubuntu partition (9gb of info on it...) and reinstall the ubuntu os
[09:57] <zF> But when I run ssh <my host address> it returns "aeqitas@<host>'s password" when the usernmae on that machine is veritas
[09:57] <Seveas> jemt, why would that matter?
[09:57] <jemt> Seveas: Seems to me that you do quite a job in here :)
[09:57] <zF> so natuarally i can't log into my server
[09:57] <zF> What is going on?
[09:57] <Seveas> einand_, yes it can
[09:57] <zF> I didn't touch anything on it
[09:57] <jemt> Seveas: I'm just currious
[09:57] <Blissex> meheren: depending on how fast your disk/CD are. Something like 30-40 minutes is typical.
[09:57] <alteroo> meheren: how fast much memory and processing power you have?
[09:57] <einand_> Seveas: without datalost
[09:57] <Seveas> zF, ssh your_username_ther@host
[09:57] <Seveas> einand_, yes
[09:57] <meheren> well it's a dell insprion 8600
[09:57] <jind> meheren: if you have a normally fast computer you should only need an hour, maybe two, depending how well you know what to do
[09:57] <einand_> Seveas: the same for kubuntu i think, i thinking about trying that
[09:58] <meheren> i got 2.8gigherzz of proceins power
[09:58] <Seveas> einand_, they use the same installer
[09:58] <zF> Seveas, why do I just now have to start doing this?
[09:58] <NickGarvey> would the x-server allow me to run one computer in text mode, and have a client run the x-windows-server on that machine; sort of like VNC, but have the host computer be in text mode?
[09:58] <meheren> jind, ive done it on about 15-20 computers...
[09:58] <Seveas> zF, no idea - maybe your username was the same before now?
[09:58] <jemt> Seveas: Anyways, thanks for the SUN1.5 jackage :)
[09:58] <jemt> I'm off - later
[09:58] <alteroo> meheren: it should be really quick then..
[09:58] <zF> Seveas, that was it -.-
[09:58] <einand_> Seveas: tnx for the information
[09:58] <Blissex> NickGarvey: yes sure, thats exactly what it is designed for.
[09:58] <alteroo> meheren: come back and tell us how quick it was :-D
[09:58] <Seveas> zF, hint: you can plokn that in ~/.ssh/config so you don't have to type it all the time
[09:59] <ftg2> meheren: install took something like 40min on this inspiron 6000. it was another hour to upgrade to dapper. a couple more hours of tweaking to get X to display the max resolution and to get the touchpad doing all its neat tricks
[09:59] <jind> I use a day or so. But I install extrasoftware and tweak things up
[09:59] <NickGarvey> Blissex: when I am installing then, should I install server? or default
[09:59] <jind> Like the kernel
[09:59] <meheren> lol yeh... i gtg somewhere at 5:00 is the thing and was wondering if i could squeeze it in...
[09:59] <zF> Seveas, I'll remember that
[09:59] <alteroo> meheren: what time is it now?
[09:59] <zF> Seveas, how do I transfer files using ssh?
[09:59] <Blissex> NickGarvey: ''server'' at install installs background servers, like email/DNS/SQL servers...
[09:59] <zF> smtp... I think it was?
[09:59] <Enthusiast78> wastrel: Many thanks!!
[09:59] <NickGarvey> zp: scp
[09:59] <Seveas> zF, scp
[09:59] <Blissex> NickGarvey: probably you just want ''default''
[09:59] <zF> can I man scp?
[10:00] <alteroo> meheren: if you have an hour that should be enough... with much customization and stuff..
[10:00] <Seveas> zF, or with mc or nautilus
[10:00] <NickGarvey> Blissex: alright, and I should have it boot in init 2?
[10:00] <Seveas> yeah, man scp is a good read
[10:00] <meheren> alteroo, k well here we go...
[10:00] <savon> !ati
[10:00] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:00] <Blissex> NickGarvey: na, Debian/Ubuntu use another method to indicate ''dont start X''.
[10:00] <alteroo> meheren: aight.. good luck man
[10:00] <jind> zF: scp file1 user@host: (or user@host/ for the root of the computer)
[10:00] <Blissex> ubotu: no display manager?
[10:00] <ubotu> Blissex: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <Blissex> !nodm
[10:00] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Blissex
[10:00] <meheren> alteroo, thx
[10:01] <kbrooks> well
[10:01] <zF> jind: is the user@host my host or the host I'm logged into with ssh?
[10:01] <Blissex> NickGarvey: anyhow, just put "none" in '/etc/X11/default-display-manager'
[10:01] <Seveas> kbrooks, broke your modem? ;)
[10:01] <meheren> is there a way i can do a network install from a install cd so i don't have to update once ive installed>
[10:01] <Blissex> NickGarvey: run level 2 is for non-networked operation.
[10:01] <meheren> *?
[10:01] <Seveas> Blissex, not in Ubuntu
[10:01] <jind> zF: the last of cource. You need to identify to the ssh server on the remote side
[10:01] <kbrooks> Seveas, um, no.  :) i didnt get d/c. i killed X
[10:01] <NickGarvey> Blissex: sure? thats what I ran my web server on and I sshed into it
[10:01] <Seveas> Blissex, in ubuntu runlevel 2 through 5 are the same
[10:01] <meheren> basically can i use a install cd as a network install cd...?
[10:02] <Seveas> kbrooks, that's a way ;)
[10:02] <ubushine> Seveas, Blissex thanks for the tips but i'm still getting error when i try to run anything from terminal: "Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library"
[10:02] <Blissex> NickGarvey: bah! these new kids on the block screw up runlevels :-)
[10:02] <Seveas> meheren, yes
[10:02] <jind> I need food. bbl
[10:02] <ubushine> any other tips?
[10:02] <Blissex> ubushine: have a look with 'locale -a'
[10:02] <kbrooks> how is ubuntu doing?
[10:02] <kbrooks> anything fancy? new?
[10:02] <NickGarvey> alright thanks a lot
[10:02] <meheren> seveas, how...?
[10:02] <kbrooks> by the way
[10:02] <GTX> how do I un define  LANG/LOCALE
[10:03] <Seveas> meheren, lemme find the docs...
[10:03] <kbrooks> i discovered a dictionary applet.
[10:03] <kbrooks> add it!
[10:03] <ubushine> Blissex, i see 3 error messages: eg "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[10:03] <ubushine> "
[10:03] <meheren> seveas, k thx
[10:03] <Blissex> ubushine: more precisely, 'locale' to see which locale you chose, and then 'locale -a | less' to see which ones are available.
[10:03] <[blah] > why does my scroll wheel not work half the time?
[10:03] <b-or> test
[10:03] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: thats the same dictionary that is in the acceories menu
[10:03] <raindog> I see /dev/fd0/media/floppyO in etc/fstab but when i try to mount it it says can't find /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 in fstab or mtab
[10:03] <Blissex> [blah] : some programs are not very responsive to scroll events.
[10:04] <Mystery47_Newbie> hello!
[10:04] <Blissex> raindog: that's wrong there should be a space in there.
[10:04] <b-or> hello guys
[10:04] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, theni  didnt see it.
[10:04] <Mystery47_Newbie> I just have one guestion....How i can change gnome to KDE?
[10:04] <kingspawn> raindog: mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy..
[10:04] <kbrooks> that or i dont use it.
[10:04] <kingspawn> (without the ..!)
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: you can sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:04] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: without magic?
[10:04] <raindog> blissex kingspawn:  *blushes*  thanks.
[10:04] <[blah] > Blissex, It's not some programs.  Sometimes I boot and it works fine, others times it does not work at all in programs that respond to it (eg Mozilla)
[10:04] <Blissex> raindog: it should mount '/dev/fd0' (the floppu) as '/media/floppy' (or '/media/floppy0')
[10:05] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: you want to isntall KDE and remove gnome?
[10:05] <Mystery47_Newbie> oh....and then i can choose that what i use...?
[10:05] <alteroo> Mystery47_Newbie: yes.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes on the login screen under sessions
[10:05] <HE1> Im having issues with my Wireless card (Linksys WPC54G VER 4 )  , i installed the driver but the laptop (acer) is not detecting the hardware
[10:05] <raindog> blissex kinspawn:  it says that I must specify the filesystem type.
[10:05] <Mystery47_Newbie> does that kde make bad to my stuff...what i ahd putted on gnome?
[10:05] <jnoon> anyone know how i can set my shell to make the delete key send ^H? its sending ^D right now
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: no
[10:06] <GTX> how do I un define  LANG/LOCALE, also does anyone know how to get a "Samgsung CLP-510N working with ubuntu (networked)
[10:06] <kbrooks> are there any other good games?
[10:06] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok...thanks...i just try....=)
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: it should not be necessary if the floppy is already formatted, the default should be 'auto' (in the '/etc/fstab').
[10:06] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: shouldnt change anything in gnome except the gdm if you choose kdm
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: try just 'mount /media/floppy'
[10:06] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, i think the kdm package condlicts with gdm. let me see.
[10:06] <Blissex> raindog: anyhow you are still keeping a secret with desktop environment/file manager you use.
[10:06] <Seveas> meheren, install debian-installer-manual - that one should contain the info you need
[10:06] <holycow> does anyone use sabayon here? just curious about how people find it in general
[10:07] <meheren> k
[10:07] <gnomefreak> kbrooks: you have to choose what one you want
[10:07] <raindog> blissex:  that did it. I'm using gnome.
[10:07] <kbrooks> gnomefreak, oh? i forgot then.
[10:07] <meheren> this has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen
[10:07] <chuckyp> Anyone know if installing kubuntu-desktop will bork my gnome menus?
[10:07] <Blissex> raindog: I don't use GNOME but it has cool icon/GUI methods of mounting stuff.
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> what is that gdm and kdm?
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> gnome desktop manager?
[10:08] <chuckyp> Mystery47_Newbie, that is the session manager
[10:08] <Blissex> raindog: ask perhaps in #GNOME for a suggestion
[10:08] <Mystery47_Newbie> oh...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: it wont you may need to install menu again though i dont know if that was fixed in dapper or not
[10:08] <meheren> chuckyp, kubuntu-dektop shouldn't do anythign to ur gnome stuff...
[10:08] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes
[10:08] <meheren> chuckyp, it didn't do anything to mine
[10:08] <chuckyp> Mystery47_Newbie, so if you run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart you will restart the session and x etc...
[10:08] <Blissex> Mystery47_Newbie: no, it is the Display Manager, which is different from the desktop manager which is different from the session manager :-)
[10:08] <linuxcrazy> On a scale of 1 to 10, what would you guys rate Ubuntu?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> gnome display manager
[10:09] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, gotcha just wanted to check it out.
[10:09] <raindog> blissex:  i found the mount/unmount previously.  I just was having trouble getting it to mount initially.  Many thanks to blissex and kingspawn.
[10:09] <Blissex> Mystery47_Newbie: one of the attractions of GNU/Linux/X is that it is very modulary
[10:09] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, after this update is done cheese 111 packages
[10:09] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok....but everything is safe....and i can change it back at ease...?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> kubuntu-desktop is a fairly big package chuckyp you could be there a while
[10:09] <Blissex> raindog: but you can mount/umount initiallu from Nautilus and GNOME too... I just can't remember how (I don't even have Nautilus installed :->)
[10:10] <gnomefreak> Mystery47_Newbie: yes
[10:10] <painkiler> hey guys
[10:10] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, no i'm talking about all the oo updates today.
[10:10] <painkiler> how do i get premisson to write in usb drives with out sudo?
[10:10] <Mystery47_Newbie> ok....thats good to know...bec i have just good gnome desktop just now....and i dont want to mess my whole linux....
[10:10] <linuxcrazy> do you guys think Ubunut is a really good distro?
[10:10] <painkiler> like drag and drop style
[10:10] <chuckyp> painkiler, mount it so your user's can write to it.
[10:10] <gnomefreak> oh those yes that was huge and i only had 20 at that time
[10:10] <gnomefreak> linuxcrazy: were kind of biased on that subject
[10:11] <painkiler> chuckyp: could i do it that everyone was writeable?
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> i just wanted to try kde....if i like it maybe i change it permanently....cool desktop...
[10:11] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, yeah I logged in and 111 updates today.
[10:11] <kingspawn> raindog: we aim to please.
[10:11] <linuxcrazy> Ok i'll shut up
[10:11] <painkiler> that when you plug anyone in it will be
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> thanks to all you ppl who helped me....
[10:11] <Mystery47_Newbie> =)
[10:11] <einand_> is there any iso burning program for windows that uses the consoll
[10:12] <painkiler> what do i say to get it writeable?
[10:12] <linuxcrazy> why do you need a burning program that uses the consoel?
[10:12] <painkiler> sudo mnt what?
[10:12] <linuxcrazy> e*
[10:12] <meheren> this has never happend to me before... y is there a small box in the center of the screen instead of filling the whole screen
[10:12] <gnomefreak> einand_: they might know more on #windows but im sure dos has commands you can use to burn
[10:13] <gnomefreak> meheren: background?
[10:13] <linuxcrazy> why not just use nero?
[10:13] <einand_> gnomefreak: i was asking here my plan is to make an ubuntu.exe that downloads a iso and burn-it for my friend.
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, yes
[10:13] <Howitzer> Does anybody know on how to use the output of a certain command for another command?, example: I like to play mp3's in TTY2 because i restart X a lot, however, with mpg123 i can't play a whole folder, i have to manually type the mp3's. What i want to do is make mpg123 play 'the output' of ls
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, you could set it so that fstab mounts it that way.
[10:13] <linuxcrazy> any of you guys use looking glass?
[10:13] <painkiler> how?
[10:13] <painkiler> sorry a bit of a noob
[10:13] <kalphegor> how can i help ubuntu with a wallpaper? maybe default wallpaper for Dapper :) is there any visual/art team?
[10:13] <chuckyp> painkiler, i'm not too good with mounting stuff like that but I know it can be done.  Something with the umask and whatever in the fstab i'm sure someone else on here would know.
[10:14] <Howitzer> einand_, just make him download and burn it :/
[10:14] <chuckyp> !tell kalphegor about artwork
[10:14] <painkiler> !tell me about fstab
[10:14] <einand_> Howitzer: He do not own any burnprogram.
[10:14] <alteroo> Howitzer: ls | mpg123
[10:14] <meheren> gnomefreak, no no im install ubuntu... and my screen im using is a small box in the center instead of the whole thing...
[10:14] <zF> do both machines need to have an sshd for scp to work?
[10:14] <Mabus06> einand_: does he use... windows xp?
[10:14] <Howitzer> alteroo, that's all?
[10:15] <Mabus06> Doesn't windows explorer burn cds?
[10:15] <Howitzer> |mp|, is that pipe?,
[10:15] <alteroo> Howitzer: I thinks so..
[10:15] <Howitzer> .|, is that pipe?,
[10:15] <einand_> Mabus06: can you burn ISO files with winxp ?
[10:15] <Howitzer> i'll try it
[10:15] <jonphilpott> has anyone compiled gnome 2.14 for hoary?
[10:15] <Howitzer> einand_, ofcourse
[10:15] <alteroo> Howitzer: yeah,,
[10:15] <Howitzer> ty!
[10:15] <gnomefreak> |=pipe
[10:15] <painkiler> what do i add in fstab to get it writeable?
[10:15] <jonphilpott> garnome failed for me.. trying jhbuild now.. or are there packages available?
[10:15] <einand_> Howitzer: i meen, without any extra program
[10:15] <linuxcrazy> winxp does not natively support ISO burning
[10:15] <SaneEnglishMonk> zF: no, just the machine you're copying it to
[10:15] <Mabus06> einand_: not sure... but if he's going to download the huge file of ubuntu I'm sure he can get alcohol 120
[10:16] <einand_> Mabus06: thats illegal
[10:16] <b-or> where can i download the 6.04?
[10:16] <Mabus06> einand_: um, how is it illegal?
[10:16] <linuxcrazy> clear the thread!
[10:16] <zF> SaneEnglishMonk, so if I want to copy a remote file from a remote host that I connected to with ssh, I need my local machine to be running a sshd as well?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell b-or about dapper
[10:16] <einand_> Mabus06: also my plan is to find a free burner program to creat "installations programs"
[10:16] <b-or> tnx
[10:16] <gnomefreak> yw
[10:16] <chuckyp> painkiler, another place to try is #linuxhelp  there are a lot of knowledgable people in there.
[10:16] <gnomefreak> nm that
[10:17] <gnomefreak> b-or: type /topic
[10:17] <SaneEnglishMonk> zF: you can use 'scp remotehost:/path/to/file /location/on/local/host'
[10:17] <chuckyp> zF, yeah sort of to use scp you would.
[10:17] <linuxcrazy> any of you guys registered at the MPC forums?
[10:17] <kalphegor> !tell me about artwork
[10:17] <Howitzer> alteroo, won't work, it just displays the map and gives the mpg123 --help at the same time :x
[10:17] <alteroo> Howitzer: yes it is a pipe
[10:17] <Howitzer> linuxboy, isn't that a cheating forum?
[10:17] <zF> SaneEnglishMonk, I will try that, thanks.
[10:17] <raindog> I have a modem driver extracted to my HD.  It says to run the Makefile in it.  How do I 'run' the Makefile?
[10:17] <alteroo> Howitzer: hmmm.. interesting..
[10:17] <chuckyp> zF, SaneEnglishMonk for that to work port 22 on your local machine would need to be listening so yes you need ssh on that as well.
[10:17] <gnomefreak> people artwork isnt a know fact
[10:17] <b-or> where? to type?
[10:17] <allaun> hello everyone
[10:17] <PieR> hello
[10:17] <allaun> how is everybuddy
[10:17] <gnomefreak> b-or: in here just like you are typing now
[10:17] <savon> !wireless
[10:17] <PieR> 8)
[10:17] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[10:17] <zF> ugh
[10:18] <zF> I guess I'll just put a ftpd on the remote box and drag crap into that :/
[10:18] <chuckyp> zF, you are trying to copy from remote to local right?
[10:18] <zF> Yes.
[10:18] <linuxcrazy> hey you guys need to try out kororaa
[10:18] <b-or> gnomefreak:[23:21:36]  Not Enough Parameters
[10:18] <allaun> i tried it
[10:18] <allaun> it didnt work
[10:18] <linuxcrazy> it gentoo that has already been configured
[10:18] <gnomefreak> go to ubuntu.com you will see it there somewhere or if you never changed ff homepage its on there
[10:18] <chuckyp> zF, then if ssh isn't listening locally its not that hard to enable.  just edit /etc/ssh/ssh_config or whatever its called.
[10:18] <chuckyp> !ssh
[10:18] <ubotu> well, ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdvancedOpenSSH
[10:18] <allaun> it was a complete phailure
[10:18] <Obstfliege> I installed ubuntu onmy notebook. But during the installation at installing hotplug subsystem there was no reaktion anymore...
[10:19] <linuxcrazy> phailure hahahahahaha
[10:19] <chuckyp> Obstfliege, it locked up you mean?
[10:19] <Obstfliege> yes
[10:19] <linuxcrazy> ditch the lappy
[10:19] <Obstfliege> no reaktion to strg-c
[10:19] <gnomefreak> Obstfliege: what usb things do you have plugged in?
[10:19] <meheren> ok cool,... looks as if i got a super fast hd on this thing....
[10:19] <b-or> topic
[10:19] <trappist> Obstfliege: I've seen that complaint a LOT.  you might look for a bug report on malone.
[10:19] <gnomefreak> b-or:  with the /
[10:19] <meheren> it's flying through the install procedjers...
[10:20] <zF> Do I just uncomment Port 22, chuckyp
[10:20] <b-or> i did
[10:20] <zF> ?
[10:20] <meheren> (i no it's spelled worng...)
[10:20] <Obstfliege> mouse and keyboard
[10:20] <meheren> *wrong
[10:20] <chuckyp> zF, hold up let me check
[10:20] <gnomefreak> b-or: /topic should tell you the topic
[10:20] <b-or> gnomefreak: i know that... but i can't get it work
[10:20] <allaun> i'm upgrading 5.04
[10:20] <allaun> i had a cd laying alone
[10:20] <gnomefreak> b-or: here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/flight5
[10:20] <meheren> is there a way to get marathon on ubuntu? (it's a really old mac game... they have it for next and mac os x...)
[10:20] <Obstfliege> trappist: where can i find it?
[10:21] <Howitzer> hmm alteroo, do you know if there is a 'variable' like $USER or $PWD, but instead lists the files in the directory?
[10:21] <adam_> I'm having trouble with direct rendering... whenever I run 'glxgears' I get "illegal operation" but glxinfo says I have direct rendering on, what could possibly be the problem?
[10:21] <b-or> gnomefreak: tnx dude, when is the next "flight"?
[10:21] <adam_> I have the i810 Intel integrated graphics card
[10:21] <gnomefreak> b-or: supposed to be beta on march 23rd but we will see what happens with the delay
[10:21] <trappist> Obstfliege: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[10:21] <chuckyp> zF, check out the link ubotu is sending you tells you how to install ssh server on your ubuntu box and how to use scp everything you need to know
[10:21] <chuckyp> !tell zF about ssh
[10:22] <alteroo> Howitzer: not that I know off..
[10:22] <Mercutio150> Anyone in here familiar with Wine?
[10:22] <meheren> i am
[10:22] <Howitzer> Mercutio150, yes
[10:22] <gnomefreak> Mercutio150: feel free to ask your question if someone knows they will answer you
[10:22] <Mercutio150> do you think you could help me get it running
[10:22] <meheren> mercutio150, very why?
[10:22] <Mercutio150> the wiki isn't very helpful
[10:22] <meheren> sure
[10:23] <kingspawn> it seems to me that most people switch to linux to be able to run windows programs.
[10:23] <meheren> mercutio150, ummm apt-get install wine or xwine...
[10:23] <Mercutio150> I try to WIne something but it keeps giving me an error
[10:23] <PaladinoFugace> Hi! I have a very simple question about Ubuntu.  Once I have installed the single CD,  if I want a to develop... say... in Ada,  I have to install the packages from the 'net, right?.  There is no such a thing like a 2 DVDs version with all the packages or something,  right?
[10:23] <kingspawn> i find it almost infinitely annoying.
[10:23] <meheren> mercutio150, then run winecfg
[10:23] <b-or> gnomefreak: if i'll download the corrent.. can i "upgrade" it to the beta without downloading the whole cd?
[10:23] <kingspawn> PaladinoFugace: no such thing.
[10:23] <Mercutio150> ok any specific settings to look for?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> b-or: yes you will just do normal updates
[10:24] <gnomefreak> b-or: its still pretty tempermentle
[10:24] <PaladinoFugace> kingspawn  thanks
[10:24] <Mercutio150> ok I am in wincfg
[10:24] <Mercutio150> but I don't know what settings to modify
[10:24] <meheren> anyone here know what kernel i should install? (the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?
[10:24] <b-or> gnomefreak: ok.. sorry for the "noobish" questions.. i'm still linux "virgin"..
[10:25] <meheren> im doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...
[10:25] <xcel> hej! i have a easyquestion! tell me any good FTP client!!
[10:25] <meheren> (i got a dell inspirion 8600
[10:25] <gnomefreak> b-or: if your that new to linux i would stick with ubuntu 5.10 for saftey reasons
[10:25] <Obstfliege> trappist: sorry but i am blind or just to stupid to find it :D
[10:25] <gnomefreak> xcel: gftp?
[10:25] <Tomcat_> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/16/1954251&from=rss "Automatix Kicks Ubuntu into Gear" <--- maybe someone wants to warn people there... I only heard Automatix was bad, but I don't have any details.
[10:25] <ftg2> kingspawn: i know a few noobs running linux because their hardware is pretty much done for.. blue screens, random crashes, etc. now their machines run like there is nothing wrong with them but all they can do is complain its not windows :(
[10:26] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[10:26] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[10:26] <xcel> gnomefreak i can apt-get gtpd? :)
[10:26] <meheren> im doing an install and it asks me what kerenel i want to install...
[10:26] <meheren> (i got a dell inspirion 8600
[10:26] <zF> woot. I didn't need to change anything after al.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> gftp yes
[10:26] <xcel> thx!
[10:26] <cafuego> meheren: i686 then
[10:26] <gnomefreak> xcel: sudo apt-get gftp (iirc thats the name of package)
[10:26] <Tomcat_> Thanks gnomefreak, I'll probably just post that. :)
[10:26] <b-or> gnomefreak: LOL... and white the 5.10.. can i do "normal updates" for the 6.04.. or i'll have to download the cd?
[10:26] <meheren> i don't have the option for the i686...
[10:26] <xcel> i know :-) thank you
[10:27] <kingspawn> ftg2: heh, yeah. i wouldnt run linux if i mostly played games etc. Its okay wanting to play a game or two, but seems 70% of the questions in here is how to emulate windows. My answer would be: install windows, or atleast run a dual boot.
[10:27] <cafuego> meheren: ... so I am supposed to just guess?
[10:27] <meheren> cafuego, i don't have the option for the i686... i showed u all my options (or rather told...)
[10:27] <Mercutio150> IO am just trying to use wine for a few games I like
[10:27] <adam_> need help with direct rendering -- I'm getting "Illegal operation" when trying to load up glxgears (and screensavers that utilize opengl, don't work)
[10:27] <cafuego> you did?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> b-or: when it becomes stabel you can apt-get dist-upgrade with a lil more work but
[10:27] <Howitzer> what does stdout do? :/ (stdout in mpg123)
[10:27] <cafuego> meheren: Ah, linux-386 (It will auto-fetch the latest version)
[10:27] <ftg2> kingspawn: yup. in fact i wanted to pass my classes this semester so i wiped the windows partition.. no more counter-strike == better grade :)
[10:27] <meheren> these r my options(the linux-i386 the linux-image-i386 or the linux-image-2.6.12-9-386)?
[10:27] <Croperz> it's the output thingie!
[10:28] <gnomefreak> b-or: there will also be an upgrading tool
[10:28] <meheren> k
[10:28] <Mercutio150> I am having troubles running programs though
[10:28] <kingspawn> ftg2: hehe, yeah. i never play games anymore, and i get a lot of stuff done :)
[10:28] <cafuego> meheren: (They will in fact all install the same kernel anyway, only linux-i386 will keep auto-upgrading it)
[10:28] <meheren> cafuego, oh lol... well thx
[10:29] <meheren> so when i boot i should install the 686 kernel then?
[10:29] <Croperz> slightly oprimised!
[10:29] <ebel> I'm playing with video drivers. But init 3 doesn't kill all the Xorg. How do I restart X?
[10:29] <xcel> gnomefreak well wtf... i did sudo apt-get install gftpd and i t says it cant find the package
[10:29] <b-or> gnomefreak: ok... i'll first need to free some hardrive space before installing... so your advice is to install the breezy?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> gtfp
[10:29] <gnomefreak> gftp*
[10:29] <xcel> ah
[10:29] <_jason> ebel: ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:30] <meheren> cafuego, since you seem to no about kernels what should i put on a dell inspirion 8200?
[10:30] <Howitzer> How do i make a symlink?
[10:30] <cafuego> meheren: Well, there ptobably won't be much performance difference.
[10:30] <ebel> _jason, I know that kills X, isn't that supposed to be a bit unsafe?
[10:30] <_jason> Howitzer: ln -s
[10:30] <kingspawn> mehren: give i386 a go
[10:30] <richard> how can i create pdf?
[10:30] <cafuego> meheren: Dell is all i686 unless it's over 8 years old.
[10:30] <kingspawn> its over 8 years!! (im sorry)
[10:30] <Howitzer> ty
[10:30] <kingspawn> sometimes i get a little grumpy
[10:30] <_jason> ebel: I haven't heard of that personally
[10:30] <meheren> cafuego, k.... so i686 on all dells...
[10:30] <gnomefreak> ebel: you can log out of gnome/kde than do it safely
[10:30] <max300> does anyone know were i can find an ftp cacker for linux?
[10:31] <xcel> gnomefreak really thx for helping a noob :D
[10:31] <kingspawn> ebel: its not unsafe at all
[10:31] <MrRio> max300: cacker?
[10:31] <meheren> cafuego, 7500 included?
[10:31] <cafuego> meheren: Yep, except on their Itanium servers.
[10:31] <max300> password cracker
[10:31] <kingspawn> ebel: it has killed x since time immemorial (nearly)
[10:31] <max300> like brutforce
[10:31] <_jason> richard: OOo writer lets you export to pdf, that is one way
[10:31] <kingspawn> if you need an "ftp cacker", just use the included "ftp"
[10:31] <cafuego> max300: You want us to help you hack into a system?
[10:31] <ebel> _jason, kingspawn, Oh, OK. I thought it was a bit like just pulling the plug on a machine.
[10:31] <kingspawn> it really is "cack"
[10:31] <Jeff__> hey, does the ubuntu installation cd have a repair option? i accidentally damages linux-image
[10:31] <max300> no not realy lol
[10:31] <Jhair> ftpcacker?
[10:31] <belkin> why mplayer package is broken for streaming videos ?
[10:31] <max300> its my modem
[10:31] <raindog_> I can't figure out the command to install a modem driver that I have downloaded and extracted.  Can someone assist me??
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ebel: its not the _best_ way to do it but it works
[10:32] <ubuntu_> ciao
[10:32] <dolmen> how can I change package repositories priorities ?
[10:32] <_jason> belkin: it's not over here, what happens that makes you think it is broken?
[10:32] <kingspawn> raindog: what format is the driver yo uhave downloaded?
[10:32] <MrRio> raindog_: where and what is the driver?
[10:32] <meheren> cafuego, well never heard of a itanium server so.... lol
[10:32] <ebel> gnomefreak, is there a better way? I thought init 3 then init 5 was the way, but that isn't working.
[10:32] <belkin> _jason doesnt work :)) some other people said the same thing ?
[10:32] <richard> _jason: 00o writer is a program?
[10:32] <max300> does anyone know were i can find an ftp password cacker for linux?(brutforce)
[10:32] <raindog_> MrRio: It is a driver for a Lucent/Agere softmodem.  It's in my /home/user directory.
[10:32] <belkin> _jason what makes you think its not ?
[10:32] <_jason> belkin: give me an example
[10:32] <cafuego> meheren: Intels attempt at a 64bit architecture. Costs about as much as a cray these days.
[10:33] <_jason> belkin: because it works :)
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ebel: there is a command for it but i dont remember it off hand
[10:33] <ubuntu_> salve
[10:33] <kingspawn> i have such a distaste for gui's that ctrl-alt-backspace is the perfect way :)
[10:33] <nickrud> dolmen: by using apt-pinning , in /etc/apt/preferences (you'll need to create it) man apt_preferences tells you how
[10:33] <gnomefreak> ebel: i log out than do it
[10:33] <raindog_> MrRio:  http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ageresoftmodem/
[10:33] <cafuego> ointment
[10:33] <meheren> cafuego, what is the difference between the i386 and i686 kernels it can't be that much if they both run on a 386 and 686 cpu...
[10:33] <belkin> _jason say what ?? it doesnt work here
[10:33] <_jason> richard: open office writer in applications menu > office
[10:33] <dolmen> nickrud, thx
[10:33] <belkin> _jason did i miss anything ?
[10:33] <_jason> belkin: ok, let's try to figure out why.  Give me an example link that doesn't work for you
[10:33] <cafuego> meheren: i386 also runs on pentiums and 486es, has some bakcward compatibility stuff
[10:33] <belkin> _jason do i have to create any symlink for the pluging or apt will do it for me ?
[10:33] <ftg2> meheren: i686 is an i383.. backwards compatible. its the same instruction set (with additional instructions)
[10:33] <ebel> gnomefreak, OK
[10:34] <belkin> _jason it would be a lot easyer to tell you what worked for me " Nothing "
[10:34] <_jason> belkin: wait is your question ``why is mplayer plug-in broken?'' or ``how do I install mplayer plug-in?''
[10:34] <MrRio> raindog_, the readme says extract it, then type 'sudo make install'
[10:34] <Obstfliege> trappist: i cant find it can you please send me a link?
[10:34] <meheren> ah i got it...
[10:34] <meheren> ok thx
[10:34] <b-or> i have 64bit cpu.. is it still recommended to run the 32bit dist?
[10:34] <MrRio> raindog_, without quotes
[10:35] <belkin> _jason apt-get install should do the trick
[10:35] <_jason> belkin: you are confusing me :)
[10:35] <ebel> So is there an easy way to *start* X if it's not running?
[10:35] <raindog_> MrRio:  I have.  It says command not found.
[10:35] <Howitzer> When i symlink a folder from partition A to partition B, will the files in the original folder from partition A, be copied onto partition B?
[10:35] <ebel> I /could/ reboot, but I'd rather have an easier way....
[10:35] <_jason> ebel: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[10:35] <MrRio> raindog_: you need build-essential from synaptic
[10:35] <belkin> _jason now im asking you . " do i need to symlink the file in to the firefox plugind directory " ?
[10:36] <_jason> belkin: not if you install mplayer plug-in (mozilla-mplayer) package
[10:36] <ebel> _jason, thanks. :)
[10:36] <belkin> _jason if you like to help me then give me some hints or something
[10:36] <raindog_> MrRio:  Ah, I see.  I'll have to download it with my other box.  Thanks for the help.
[10:36] <belkin> _jason well then . thats what i just installed ;)
[10:36] <kingspawn> ebel: startx
[10:36] <Jhair> Howitzer: no, they will not be copied, that is the idea of symbolic links...
[10:36] <MrRio> raindog_: its a deb that includes all the stardard make toold for ubuntu
[10:36] <MrRio> tools*
[10:37] <_jason> belkin: ok now is it actually getting used?  put about:plugins in your address bar and see if there is something else other than mplayer being used
[10:37] <jort> hello, can somebody help me to install nvidia drivers?
[10:37] <_jason> ubotu: tell jort about nvidia
[10:37] <mlehrer> it should just magically install them on install; at least dapper seems to
[10:37] <stpere> hi, is there a final decision about dapper delaying?
[10:37] <jort> i executed the program but it says; error: nvidia-installer must be run as root
[10:37] <fluxt> jort: whats the problem installing them?
[10:37] <meheren> gtg (btw the install is done total time [no config] = 1/2 hour :) )
[10:38] <_jason> jort: check your private messages from ubotu
[10:38] <h36sa> hi, I have a inspiron 5100 (desktop p4/2.4) and running gentoo, using cpufreq and p4-clockmod I was able to throttle my cpu to several different speeds, some of them very low (87% throttled)... This all seemed to work well, and kept my battery healthy and the temp low. My disk crashed and I reinstalled with ubuntu... althought my system sees 8 different states in /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling, the system only throttles betwee
[10:38] <kingspawn> jort "sudo" before whatever needs to be run as root
[10:38] <belkin> _jason that shows me the " Installed plug-ins " it doesnt show me whats being used right now
[10:38] <jort> i'm very noob but i dont really know what a root is
[10:39] <raindog_> MrRio:  using synaptic requires me to already have internet access on my ubuntu box, doesn't it?  Or can I just download and install the build-essentials.deb manually?
[10:39] <_jason> belkin: does it list anything other than mplayer? maybe xine or vlc or totem?
[10:39] <h36sa> jort: it's like the Administrator account
[10:39] <IdleOne> !tell jort about root
[10:39] <h36sa> raindog: you can use dpkg to install it locally
[10:39] <jort> hmm, i'm the only one using it so i must be admin?
[10:39] <kingspawn> jort: root can do anything on your computer
[10:39] <h36sa> I think apt-get can do it also.. not sure about synaptic
[10:39] <kingspawn> jort: for security reasons you are logged in as a normal user
[10:40] <fluxt> jort: the account you're using isn't
[10:40] <nrymiguel> hi ppl
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort> in a sense yes you are root but at the same time you arent
[10:40] <kingspawn> root is only to be used when you need to do things such as installing drivers
[10:40] <bluefoxicy> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/35248  I recall this happened in breezy too, can anyone confirm and backport printing regressions to breezy too?  :(
[10:40] <jort> ok
[10:40] <belkin> _jason  no . it list me the mplayer plugins Google VLC multimedia ; QuickTime Plug-in ; RealPlayer 9 ....
[10:40] <jort> so how do i manage it to be a root
[10:40] <h36sa> jort: irc doesn't let you on as root :)
[10:40] <kingspawn> jort: playing games doesnt need the ability to change the system drastically
[10:40] <h36sa> jort: type sudo COMMAND
[10:40] <h36sa> sudo runs commands as root.
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort>  read the msg from ubotu  it will explain how to use sudo
[10:40] <jort> login again and login as an admin
[10:40] <nrymiguel> can anyone give the way to convert rpm to deb for Skype
[10:40] <IdleOne> jort no
[10:41] <h36sa> ok.. now to cpu throttling?
[10:41] <Tempest2k> what is easyest distro to get xgl working on ?
[10:41] <jort> roger i will read ubotu's msg fisrt
[10:41] <Jhair> nrymiguel: alien <rpm_package>
[10:41] <IdleOne> !tell jort  about sudo
[10:41] <_jason> belkin: can you put 'ls /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please?
[10:41] <IdleOne> !tell jort  about cli
[10:41] <nrymiguel> merci jhair
[10:41] <kingspawn> the linux community has gotten a lot friendlier from the time i started using it. an nice change. asking a question in #slackware in 1998 most likely got you banned.. :)
[10:42] <kingspawn> from=since
[10:42] <ardchoille> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade did nothing. Do I need to change my sources.list?
[10:42] <TacoMan>  I'm haveing problems getting my ntfs hdd to mount using the kubuntu live cd...
[10:42] <kingspawn> the beer makes me crazy.
[10:42] <TacoMan> anyone have any suggestions?
[10:42] <_jason> TacoMan: what kind of problems?
[10:42] <IdleOne> kingspawn>  not all distro's get the same type of support from it's users...Ubuntu has a great community
[10:42] <Jhair> kingspawn: what did they talk about in #slackware then?
[10:43] <kingspawn> IdleOne: indeed it has :) that's why i take such pleasure in trying to help out with what little i know. i actually remember what it felt like to get "RTFM" to every question i ever asked :)
[10:43] <MrRio> raindog_: u can install the deb manually, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:43] <fluxt> IdleOne: except me being the incarnation of evil in it's purest form
[10:43] <belkin> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10359
[10:43] <TacoMan> cacan't do it
[10:43] <kingspawn> fluxt: sometimes evil is needed. without it there would be no good, etc etc ;)
[10:43] <MrRio> raindog_, then move it to you net-less box and type  sudo dpkg -i build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:43] <TacoMan> drive is recognized as hda1
[10:43] <raindog_> MrRio: Thanks so much for all your help.  It's really appreciated.
[10:43] <ftg2> kingspawn: i know what you mean. i to remember being told to rtfm.. then at one point i was the one telling others to rtfm lol
[10:43] <fluxt> now i suggest you enable wake on lan in the bios and wire your rj45 to mains
[10:43] <PaoloC> hi all, I'm on Drapper. Is it possible to have jvm working in FireFox?
[10:43] <IdleOne> kingspawn>  I got RTFM from a couple a diff distro's and even when using windows I got that
[10:44] <kingspawn> ftg2: yes, its an extremely easy step to take ;))
[10:44] <MrRio> raindog_: sorry, i pasted that link a bit funny last time, here you go http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.1_i386.deb
[10:44] <IdleOne> ok lets stay on topic
[10:44] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell PaoloC about java
[10:44] <IdleOne> heya gnomefreak
[10:44] <_jason> belkin: ok, have you installed codecs for the files you are trying to view?  most likely w32codecs are needed
[10:44] <kingspawn> IdleOne: hehe, yeah, me too. sometimes it is needed, though.
[10:44] <gnomefreak> hi IdleOne
[10:44] <Francisco> _jason, hello
[10:44] <Francisco> can you help me?
[10:44] <_jason> Francisco: just ask the channel, I will help if I can
[10:44] <TacoMan> sill can't mnt...
[10:44] <belkin> _jason yes
[10:45] <belkin> _jason w32codecs installed
[10:45] <TacoMan> tried to use the graphical manager
[10:45] <max300> i got this error while installing hydra "make: *** [hydra-sip.o]  Error 1"
[10:45] <TacoMan> didn't do anything
[10:45] <Francisco> anyone can help me? I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??
[10:45] <_jason> belkin: does it work if you try to use mplayer from the command line?
[10:45] <Francisco> anyone can help me? how I can turn the radio of my wifi on.??
[10:45] <Jhair> max300: paste whole log in  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:45] <kingspawn> TacoMan: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /wherever doesnt work?
[10:45] <belkin> _jason nope :)
[10:45] <meirm> francisco hablame en privado
[10:46] <_jason> belkin: can you put the output on pastebin?
[10:46] <IdleOne> !tell Francisco  about es
[10:46] <fluxt> any irssi users in here that can tell me how to search a window for text? :)
[10:46] <ftg2> Francisco: i think iwlist will do that
[10:46] <belkin> _jason yeah
[10:46] <ftg2> Francisco: or iwconfig
[10:47] <Francisco> ftg2, I have tried whit this but it does not work.."
[10:47] <sailor> I've got a quick question... I dual boot windows and Breezy, and have another partition onto which I want to install and test Dapper... If I install Dapper there, will it totally overwrite my boot sector, and if so, will it detect and configure it to boot windows, breezy, and dapper?
[10:47] <ftg2> Francisco: :(
[10:47] <LinuxJones> sailor: it should yeah
[10:47] <tristanmike> sailor, should install grub the same way breezy did
[10:47] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606242  here is the error and line 12 its fontconfig = yes in my config file
[10:48] <sailor> so it should detect the other OSs just fine?
[10:48] <LinuxJones> sailor: make a backup of /boot/grub/menu.lst jsut to be on teh safe side :)
[10:48] <logarithm> fluxt: /lastlog search_term
[10:48] <sailor> LinuxJones, thanks, I was planning on it
[10:48] <lesshaste> belkin: paste the whole output using mplayer -v
[10:48] <_jason> belkin: how about getting rid of that line?
[10:48] <fluxt> thatnks logarithm :)
[10:49] <raindog_> The ubuntu partioning tool (in the installer) doesn't work correctly when trying to resize the ntfs partition on my xp box, but worked like a charm on my win2kpro box.  Anyone have any suggestions about how to get the partitioning tool to work so that I don't have to wipe my xp install?
[10:49] <jort> getting strange reject :S jort@dell:~$ gksudo gedit
[10:49] <jort> (gedit:10761): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:49] <jort> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[10:49] <Francisco> ftg2, eth1      radio off  ESSID:off/any
[10:49] <hmrocha> hello
[10:49] <Francisco> this is the tex when I type iwconfig
[10:49] <belkin> _jason mplayer won`t even start without that
[10:49] <Jeff__> is there a way to have vnc access to my linux box through the net? is there a site for it or something?
[10:49] <hmrocha> i'm running breezy and i want to install emacs-snapshot-gtk
[10:49] <_jason> belkin: install mplayer-fonts
[10:49] <pvd2006> wow, 703 people
[10:50] <Jeff__> i don't mean through a program, i mean through a website
[10:50] <LinuxJones> raindog_: you slected manually partition the drive ?
[10:50] <hmrocha> it says that i must remove dictionaries-common to install emacsen-common
[10:50] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606250
[10:50] <belkin> lesshaste http://pastebin.com/606250
[10:50] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  I selected to manually edit the partition table.
[10:50] <hmrocha> but i want to force the instalation, how can i do that?
[10:50] <belkin> _jason are installed already
[10:50] <fluxt> Jeff__: yeah i read there was a way to do that.. i forgot how
[10:50] <kingspawn> fluxt: logging everything and then searching it? ;)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: you really dont want to force the install :(
[10:50] <LinuxJones> raindog_:  so you have free space available but the installer can't create the partitions for you ?
[10:51] <Jeff__> fluxt, i know about logmein.com and gotomypc.com, but i don't believe you can get either of them on a linux
[10:51] <_jason> belkin: is that the mplayer from the repos?
[10:51] <Jeff__> could you at least help me look for something? i don't even know what keywords to use
[10:51] <Jeff__> :(
[10:51] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: let it remove it and than see if you cant install the dictionary package again
[10:51] <fluxt> Jeff__: are you sure one of the VNC's dont support web based operation?
[10:51] <pvd2006> Anyone know of any good ways to tweak Gnome to run faster? I tried some stuff last night from the ubuntu website on performance and it messed up gnome and I had to restart.
[10:51] <nijan_> Hello, I could run easy ubuntu but if try to install anithing it's been failing with this message:/usr/lib/python2.4/subprocess.py", line 975, in _execute_child
[10:51] <nijan_>     raise child_exception
[10:51] <nijan_> OSError: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[10:51] <hmrocha> removing dictionaries-common will remove openoffice, ubuntu-desktop and a lot more packages
[10:52] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  right now there is one ntfs partition that takes up the whole drive.  However, the windows install is very small compared to the size of the partition.  What happens is I try to resize it and it says that the resize failed.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-desktop is allowed to go what openoffice is it?
[10:52] <snooky_> hi @ all
[10:52] <belkin> _jason yes
[10:52] <snooky_> (join #ubuntu-de
[10:52] <LinuxJones> jeff_ , tightvnc has a module to use in a webbrowser for remote administration
[10:52] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: forget about it, i'll leave the emacs21 package and not the emacs-snapshot-gtk
[10:53] <LinuxJones> raindog_: did you do a defrag on the drive ?
[10:53] <_jason> belkin: so removing the fontconfig thing does what?
[10:53] <raindog_> LinuxJones:  only about 20 of them.  :)  I was trying to get the data to be as contiguous as possible.
[10:53] <mlehrer> so the i686 version of dapper seems to outperform the amd64 version on my 3500+, when playing back hi def content in VLC
[10:53] <hmrocha> gnomefreak:  i just wanted students to have emacs with gtk2 instead of the "standard" one
[10:53] <mlehrer> interesting
[10:53] <LinuxJones> raindog_: heh
[10:54] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: xemacs
[10:54] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: xemacs has gtk2 interface with pango fonts?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> xemacs has menus and stuff
[10:54] <chuckyp> gnomefreak, Do you know of an easy way to remove kubuntu-desktop after i'm done with it.
[10:54] <ploom>  has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??
[10:55] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i'll install it on my pc just to give it a try
[10:55] <bimberi> Jeff__: there are vnc-java and tightvnc-java packages available to enable vnc from a java enabled web browser
[10:55] <ploom> don't know if there already is a bug for it
[10:55] <max300> y does evry one keap on sending me to this link "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/" it doesnt work and its slow
[10:55] <Jeff__> bimberi, cool..i.'ll google 'em in
[10:55] <belkin> _jason this will be the output then http://pastebin.com/606275
[10:55] <ploom> ...when making it into a vfat partition - not the ext (linux) one at least
[10:55] <selinium> hi all, How do i recurse through a folder showing all files that contain 'foo'
[10:55] <fluxt> max300: if pastebin doesn't work, request a person to join #flood and paste it there
[10:56] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i have dapper here, emacs-snapshot-gtk install fine
[10:56] <gnomefreak> chuckyp: there is a lib to remove something like lib3-mt but dont do it unless you know the lib for sure
[10:56] <linuxcrazy> can I get all of the packages that are out there if I use synaptic?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: i thought you said breezy :(
[10:56] <NickGarvey> selinium: probably ls -r foo*
[10:56] <fluxt> max300: and yeah, seems the site is down for the moment
[10:56] <NickGarvey> selinium: probably ls -r *foo*
[10:56] <NickGarvey> if you want file names
[10:56] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: yes, students use breezy
[10:56] <NickGarvey> not sure though I'd check the manual
[10:56] <NickGarvey> I'm runnig windows right now
[10:56] <fluxt> max300: wait, no it's just incredibly slow
[10:56] <selinium> NickGarvey, I nedd to find 'foo' in the file, not the file name   :)
[10:56] <NickGarvey> ah
[10:56] <asylumius> Can anyone tell me the package that contains mysqli, or perhaps a link with some documentation on installing php5 with mysqli?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> hmrocha: i dont even remember that package in breezy (but not sure)
[10:57] <IdleOne> !tell asylumius about apache
[10:57] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: forget about it then, i'll leave the emacs21
[10:57] <linuxcrazy> If someone has a slow internet connection with breezy badger, do this:
[10:57] <max300> fluxt: y u think it actualy helps?
[10:57] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: i'll install dapper in the next semester (september)
[10:57] <asylumius> IdleOne: thanks.
[10:58] <IdleOne> asylumius>  no problem
[10:58] <linuxcrazy> http://ubuntuguide.org/#loadwebsitefasterfirefox
[10:58] <fluxt> selinium:  grep -r <text> ./*
[10:58] <tristanmike> !ubuntuguide
[10:58] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:58] <ploom> even my mum uses breezy now :-p
[10:58] <linuxcrazy> read it it will make your internet connection much faster
[10:58] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, please don't advise ubuntuguide.org
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> read it!
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> you open mozilla and type about: config
[10:59] <IdleOne> linuxcrazy>  thank you  for the link but ubuntuguide is generaly not a good place for help
[10:59] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, please read what ubotu thinks about ubuntuguide
[10:59] <hmrocha> gnomefreak: it would be great if anyone coded pango support in emacs :)
[10:59] <linuxcrazy> ok fine, but if you do what it says it will speed up your connection
[10:59] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: usually help.ubuntu.com will give you better advice.
[11:00] <linuxcrazy> have you read and done what it says to do?
[11:00] <bimberi> linuxcrazy: or in this case ...
[11:00] <bimberi> !ipv6disable
[11:00] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[11:00] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[11:00] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:00] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, ubuntuguide is never updated, so if things change, it won't let you know, thus help.ubuntu.com
[11:00] <gnomefreak> ^^^ theres a guide
[11:00] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: i use the fasterfox plugin ;)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> as for ff config i got that on my personal site
[11:01] <gnomefreak> and so do most people :)
[11:01] <max300> any1 know wat this means "hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable resp
[11:01] <max300> hydra-sip.c:61: warning: unused variable mu
[11:01] <max300> hydra-sip.c:60: warning: unused variable urp"?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> its also in your help icon
[11:01] <_jason> belkin: one sec, i have to take care of something
[11:01] <nrymiguel> please the URL to install Skype
[11:02] <gnomefreak> !skype
[11:02] <ubotu> I heard skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:02] <gnomefreak> ^^use seveas package
[11:02] <linuxcrazy> do this Aopen firefox, type about config, then type network.dns.disableIPv6 then change it to true
[11:02] <linuxcrazy> x the A
[11:02] <bobyfixer> oi tudo bem ?
[11:02] <nazgulwalker> what was the url for autoconfigure of mylist??
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.pipelining  change that to true
[11:03] <fluxt> !pt
[11:03] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:03] <bobyfixer> alguem fala portugues aqui ?
[11:03] <jort> hmm cant solve this problem; how do i login as a root ?
[11:03] <george__> espaol?
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.pipelining.maxrequests and thange it to 8
[11:03] <IdleOne> !tell bobslaede  about pt
[11:03] <tristanmike> !tell jordo23 about root
[11:03] <thompa> is there a special place for us folks with laptops?
[11:03] <linuxcrazy> then type network.http.proxy.pipelining and change it to true.\
[11:03] <tristanmike> sorry jordo23 that was for jort
[11:03] <IdleOne> thompa>  you found it
[11:04] <tristanmike> !tell jort about root
[11:04] <h36sa> can anyone help me explain the cpu throttling limitation shown here: http://pastebin.com/606294 ?? why is it only going to 2.1ghz instead of much, much lower?
[11:04] <Zarephath> boyfixer: No
[11:04] <ftg2> i have everything on this laptop working now except the acpi, and that seems like a lost cause  :\
[11:04] <jort> thx
[11:04] <fluxt> !ar
[11:04] <ubotu> fluxt: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> what's the repositorie for wine?
[11:05] <IdleOne> !wine
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> wine! yes
[11:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell linuxcrazy about wine
[11:05] <bobyfixer> o win rode no ubuntu ?
[11:05] <tristanmike> !wine
[11:05] <thompa> IdleOne: are you running a notebook, centrino m?
[11:05] <IdleOne> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/" to your sources.list. (Doing this however will break winetools on Breezy) More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[11:05] <bobyfixer> da pra rodar o wine no ubuntu ?
[11:05] <MarHooloz> hello
[11:05] <IdleOne> thompa>  no but I know alot of ppl running laptop in here so ask away and someone should be able to help you out
[11:05] <linuxcrazy> anybody use cedega?
[11:05] <h36sa> ftg2: I've had acpi completely functional on my laptop recently
[11:06] <sarra> hey. i've got a cranky install of rhythmbox (don't download random .deb files, self) that i want to remove, but when i try with synaptic it informs me it wants to remove ubuntu-desktop as well? :S
[11:06] <MarHooloz> yes Me
[11:06] <MarHooloz> cedega
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> any good?
[11:06] <IdleOne> !tell bobbynet  about wine
[11:06] <nazgulwalker> what was the url for auto config my /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[11:06] <h36sa> ... until I installed ubuntu that is :(
[11:06] <Fujitsu> !pt
[11:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:06] <IdleOne> !tell nazgulwalker  about repos
[11:06] <nalioth> bobyfixer: que idioma?
[11:06] <ftg2> h36sa: ah. lol
[11:06] <thompa> i still cant find an answer relating to heat issues, when my cpu gets to 100% in certain apps it goes way up
[11:06] <bimberi> !tell nazgulwalker about easysource
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> marhoolz is it any good?
[11:06] <bobyfixer> idioma ?
[11:06] <h36sa> ftg2: under gentoo everything worked
[11:06] <fluxt> !tell bobyfixer about pt
[11:06] <bobyfixer> portugues
[11:06] <nazgulwalker> thank you
[11:06] <h36sa> what kind of laptop is it
[11:06] <IdleOne> !pt
[11:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:06] <ftg2> h36sa: that means there is hope.. probably fixable with a kernel recompile, etc
[11:06] <linuxcrazy> VIIV?!!
[11:06] <Zarephath> nalioth: portugues
[11:06] <nalioth> bobyfixer: #ubuntu-br has portugues people in it
[11:07] <IdleOne> bobbynet> ^^^^
[11:07] <bimberi> nazgulwalker: yw
[11:07] <h36sa> yeah
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> I wish
[11:07] <thompa> centrino m, with nvidia card
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> what the nvidia card?
[11:07] <neri_> anyone with an ibook?
[11:07] <thompa> h36sa: its a sony vaio centrino m
[11:07] <linuxcrazy> what model is the nvidia card?
[11:07] <Zarephath> nalioth: Wondering about progress on PPC Dapper?
[11:08] <nalioth> Zarephath: what about it? it works great so far
[11:08] <h36sa> really? centrino stuff works prime right now
[11:08] <thompa> sorry, nvidia is not the problem
[11:08] <linuxcrazy> no I guess not
[11:08] <Zarephath> nalioth: I was just wondering where I might dowload the flight 5 cd?
[11:08] <ftg2> h36sa: its an inspiron 6000
[11:08] <Zarephath> For PPC of course
[11:08] <bimberi> !getdapper
[11:08] <ubotu> You can download dapper CD Images via http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-5/ or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/.
[11:08] <linuxcrazy> flight 5? what's that?
[11:08] <Zarephath> bimberi: Thanks
[11:08] <bimberi> Zarephath: ^^^^^ (first link)
[11:08] <h36sa> ftg2: what proc?
[11:09] <bimberi> Zarephath: np :)
[11:09] <tristanmike> linuxcrazy, it's the 5th pre-release dapper
[11:09] <Zarephath> Didn't know dapper was out for ppc yet...heh
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> oh
[11:09] <ftg2> h36sa: pentium m 750 i think
[11:09] <thompa> h36sa: i started montoring temp, and when cpu is at 100% cat / proc/acpi goes to 98c
[11:09] <h36sa> I've got an inspiron 5100 with a desktop p4/2.4 and I've had everything working before
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> yikes!
[11:09] <Zarephath> Is XGL enabled for PPC dapper?
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> 98C?!
[11:09] <thompa> h36sa: that cant be right can it?
[11:09] <h36sa> ftg2: yeah the centrino stuff works really well I think.. what problem were you having
[11:09] <linuxcrazy> go xgl!
[11:09] <bimberi> !tell Zarephath about xgl
[11:09] <nalioth> Zarephath: join me in #ubuntu+1 please
[11:09] <Zarephath> nalioth: K
[11:09] <yggdrasil> hello guys i just isntalled ubuntu on a dell c400 laptop and it looks liek the boot splash screen has a framebuffer issue , how can i disable it ?
[11:10] <thompa> h36sa: it works fine, just the temp alarms me
[11:10] <fluxt> thompa: that would have to be a mistake i hope
[11:10] <ftg2> h36sa: everything works great. acpi is just a great way crash the machine atm is all
[11:10] <_jason> belkin: ok sorry about that, still around
[11:10] <linuxcrazy> temp should alrm you!
[11:10] <_jason> ?
[11:10] <linuxcrazy> a*
[11:10] <h36sa> thompa: what proc/does it really get that hot?
[11:10] <stpere> yggdrasil, go to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:10] <yggdrasil> yar ? and
[11:10] <h36sa> ftg2: oh.. that sucks
[11:10] <thompa> h36sa:  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
[11:10] <stpere> yggdrasil, find the line you are using.. and remove the splash argument
[11:11] <h36sa> mine's been stable with suspend to ram and to disk
[11:11] <thompa> h36sa: it happens at updates, celestia, screensavers even.
[11:11] <h36sa> thompa: it's a laptop though right?
[11:11] <nrymiguel> pffffff
[11:11] <thompa> h36sa: yes sony vaio (i know they suck alread)
[11:11] <jort> moving progress on installing nvidia driver, got the .run started in root but getting this error
[11:11] <jort>   ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the
[11:11] <jort>          package 'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed,
[11:11] <jort>          then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[11:11] <Jhair> hm
[11:12] <_jason> jort: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[11:12] <h36sa> thompa: well.. you'd definately know if your laptop was running at 100*C
[11:12] <yggdrasil> stpere can i do um vga=normal ?
[11:12] <tristanmike> !tell jort about pastebin
[11:12] <monteiro> anyone knows a good desktop recorder for ubuntu ?
[11:12] <thompa> h36sa:  right now im at 55c
[11:12] <yggdrasil> my consoles looking all borked up too
[11:12] <h36sa> so I'd say your system is just reporting it wrong
[11:12] <thompa> h36sa: well i know it is too hot for my lap on occasion
[11:12] <_jason> monteiro: istanbul is the only one I know about, but I have had problems using it
[11:12] <rukuartic> Can anyone tell me how I can get my router to forward my REAL ip address to my computer?
[11:12] <monteiro> _jason : me 2, thats why i'm asking :)
[11:12] <h36sa> 100*c is boiling water.. is it that hot?
[11:13] <belkin> _jason yeah
[11:13] <stpere> yggdrasil, hmm.. I suppose yes
[11:13] <rukuartic> O RLY!?
[11:13] <yggdrasil> rukuartic just put your computer into the dms
[11:13] <yggdrasil> dmz
[11:13] <thompa> h36sa: i dont think so
[11:13] <rukuartic> yggdrasil: It is... >>;
[11:13] <h36sa> and your cpufan works?
[11:13] <yggdrasil> stpere actulay let me see if that worked on it own... yea it did
[11:13] <yggdrasil> rukauartic suomi ?
[11:13] <foampeace> hello
[11:13] <asylumius> I've got php5+apache2+mysql configred per the Wiki, but can anyone give me some info on adding mysqli support?
[11:13] <foampeace> i came onto my computer and X wont start
[11:13] <rukuartic> yggdrasil: Hmm?
[11:14] <foampeace> anyone know why?
[11:14] <bimberi> !find mysqli
[11:14] <_jason> belkin: seems to still be a font problem.  Verify that 'apt-cache policy mplayer-fonts | grep -i Installed' says it is installed.  If it is, then pastebin /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config
[11:14] <yggdrasil> nevermind..
[11:14] <thompa> h36sa: yes cpu fan works fine, it feels just as hot now 55c, then when it reads 95c +
[11:14] <tristanmike> !xhangs
[11:14] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[11:14] <richard> how can i use dinamic tables in open office?
[11:14] <yggdrasil> its in the dmz and your still not getting it forwarded correctly ?
[11:14] <fluxt> foampeace: probably all the sticky stuff on your monitor
[11:14] <h36sa> thompa: then I wouldn't worry :)
[11:14] <thompa> h36sa: its only when cpu is at 100% for certain apps
[11:14] <yggdrasil> stpere wow it crashes when i switch into and out of console and x...
[11:14] <belkin> _jason Installed: 3.5-2 so i will paste you the /etc/mplayer.conf and ~/.mplayer/config
[11:14] <yggdrasil> oh well i read about that its just wierd non public driver
[11:15] <h36sa> does it ever stay at like 55-60 when at 100%?
[11:15] <thompa> h36sa: could be the way the sensor is mounted, its very thin the notebook
[11:15] <thompa> ill check
[11:15] <stpere> yggdrasil, weird, you did add the vga=normal parameter?
[11:15] <yggdrasil> uh no
[11:15] <fluxt> foampeace: "i came onto my computer and X wont start" <- this action is never recommmended
[11:15] <_jason> belkin: okay one more thing to check, add the '-vo null' switch and see if you hear sound from the clip
[11:15] <h36sa> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THM/temperature
[11:15] <bimberi> asylumius: there's a file '/usr/share/php/DB/mysqli.php' in the mysql-db package, perhaps that is it
[11:15] <h36sa> temperature:             39 C
[11:15] <linuxcrazy> not bad
[11:15] <jesseman_> fluxt, ROFL
[11:15] <foampeace> is this channel family friendly?
[11:16] <foampeace> :>
[11:16] <thompa> h36sa: thats good,
[11:16] <tristanmike> foampeace, yes
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> what ecactly does "ROFL" mean?
[11:16] <belkin> _jason /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf >> http://pastebin.com/606317
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> x*
[11:16] <h36sa> thompa: that's a desktop p4 too, not a centrino which should run much cooler
[11:16] <fluxt> foampeace: yes, now stop talking dirty! ;)
[11:16] <jesseman_> linuxcrazy, youre kidding, right?
[11:16] <IdleOne> !tell linuxcrazy about offtopic
[11:16] <h36sa> it's in a laptop, but the proc is a desktop p4
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> what does it mean?
[11:16] <thompa> h36sa: it starts to climb by 10c right away and then gets up to 98c
[11:16] <aeolist> linuxcrazy, rolling on the floor laughing
[11:16] <h36sa> hmm that's kinda weird
[11:16] <linuxcrazy> well.....I don't know
[11:16] <foampeace> Something about horizontal sync ranges not heppening etc
[11:17] <foampeace> i didnt dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it didnt help
[11:17] <belkin> _jason ~/.mplayer/config >> http://pastebin.com/606321
[11:17] <aeolist> linuxcrazy, you should have searched the wiki before asking though
[11:17] <thompa> h36sa: only with apps that require 100% cpu
[11:17] <foampeace> i did
[11:17] <_jason> belkin: comment the font stuff in ~/.mplayer/config
[11:17] <tristanmike> foampeace, does it hang after you log in? or do you not even get the logon screen ?
[11:18] <belkin> _jason fontconfig = yes and font = "Sans" ?
[11:18] <fluxt> foampeace: this just happened out of the blue or did you do something beforehand that would tip off a possible cause
[11:18] <linuxcrazy> oh here we go. rolling on the floor laughing.
[11:18] <ploom> thompa, either you have smthing with the cooler or with that thing measuring the temperature...
[11:18] <_jason> belkin: yes and subfont-text-scale = 3 too
[11:18] <jesseman_> linuxcrazy, yes. that is it. i am ROFL right now
[11:18] <thompa> ploom: right
[11:18] <jesseman_> :-P
[11:19] <thompa> ploom: i guess i could leave it at 98c and see if it blows
[11:19] <h36sa> thompa: I'd suggest just feeling the air coming outta the laptop at 55 and at 98.. see if it really is overheating, causse if it's running at 98* your laptop isn't gonna last long :P
[11:19] <fluxt> i like thompa's idea best
[11:19] <monteiro> is there a way of installing openoffice 2.0.2 in ubuntu breezy ?
[11:19] <thompa> h36sa: there is little or no air coming out
[11:20] <ploom> thompa, no you shouldnt - it will take some more degrees and it will blow like a bullet
[11:20] <thompa> h36sa: there are no air vents
[11:20] <h36sa> seriously?
[11:20] <h36sa> sorry dude
[11:20] <thompa> h36sa: there a little air coming from the usb ports
[11:20] <belkin> _jason http://pastebin.com/606329  tha error
[11:20] <h36sa> haha
[11:20] <h36sa> there has to be a vent somewhere
[11:21] <fluxt> h36sa: are you talking about the speed holes we covered with black electrical tape?
[11:21] <h36sa> maybe you just can't find it cause your cpu fan sucks
[11:21] <thompa> ive had linux on this thing many times before, and it would run hot
[11:21] <ploom> thompa, there once was a video about an athlon, what happens when cooler just gets removed (on 100% load) and it did fly - through the motherboard and also through the table :-)
[11:21] <pvd2006> whats the command to get all updates including kernel? apt-get ....
[11:21] <h36sa> fluxt: no.. aerodynamics is a whole other ballgame
[11:21] <_jason> belkin: what happens with the '-vo null' switch?
[11:22] <fluxt> pvd2006: apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <tristanmike> pvd2006, it's "sudo apt-get update" and that will give you any updates that are available
[11:22] <thebrasse> hello, I am a bit new to the apt stuff. is there any wau to figure out what package I need to install in order to get a specific lib (libXxf86vm)?
[11:22] <h36sa> ploom: I've seen that.,. fucking crazy huh
[11:22] <tristanmike> pvd2006, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:22] <ftg2> ploom: when my athlon fried, it forced off the hooks holding it to the board, and fell onto the video card.
[11:22] <Wolfv> help
[11:22] <h36sa> haha
[11:22] <NickGarvey> !language
[11:22] <ubotu> language is, like, totally, please watch your language; we try to be nice and help, but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[11:22] <NickGarvey> !helpme
[11:22] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:22] <Wolfv> hi
[11:22] <ftg2> ploom: i awoke to the smell of burning electronics
[11:22] <linuxcrazy> Here's the joke of the day. knock knock?
[11:22] <thompa> so my life is in danger huh?
[11:23] <WoC> idea ideas as to the name of the tool in bind8 which you can use to update a running dns server from i.e. a script?
[11:23] <pvd2006> that will also uprgrade the kernel?
[11:23] <linuxcrazy> lol
[11:23] <thompa> are there any centrino m users out there?
[11:23] <MisterN> n8
[11:23] <h36sa> thompa: I've got one :P
[11:23] <Wolfv> hi, I have a question.  could someone please send me Xscrabble for Ubuntu? I donwloaded the prog, but it was configured for Suse and simply doesn't run properly.
[11:23] <linuxcrazy> go pm!
[11:23] <ploom> still -  has anyone noticed that when making a file or folder named with less or equal than 8.3 characters, it will appeat twice into nautilus (once for short name - uppercase; once for long name - in lowercase)??
[11:23] <fluxt> pvd2006: yeah if there is an updated one
[11:23] <thompa> h36sa: and you got 38c
[11:24] <h36sa> no that's a different laptop
[11:24] <ploom> ...and all that on vfat filesystem.
[11:24] <ralph_> Hi, anybody here using Ubuntu on a powerbook?
[11:24] <thompa> oh
[11:24] <linuxcrazy> haha
[11:24] <linuxcrazy> they are a rare breed
[11:24] <fluxt> !anyone
[11:24] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[11:24] <h36sa> I just got a i8600 with a p-m 760
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: uh?
[11:24] <thompa> h36sa: i think there is an error with acpi
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: in breezy?
[11:24] <h36sa> what kernel are you running
[11:24] <holycow> whats the ubuntu dev chan again? ubuntu-dev is empty
[11:24] <Jhair> ploom: I haven't seen such thing
[11:24] <thompa> h36sa: im on dapper
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> wht was 5.10 named "breezy badger"?
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> y*
[11:25] <thompa> h36sa: im going to try a live cd of linux, see if same happens
[11:25] <Wolfv> any help on Xscrabble, or am I saying something utterly stupid :-) ?
[11:25] <thompa> h36sa: thanks
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> what is Xsrcabble?
[11:25] <holycow> bah
[11:25] <Wolfv> a scrabble playing program
[11:25] <linuxcrazy> c*
[11:26] <holycow> okay so about the ubuntu dev chan, anyone?
[11:26] <linuxcrazy> how did you install it?
[11:26] <h36sa> thompa: good idea. but iy looks like mine is running at 46*C at idle
[11:26] <Wolfv> I haven't managed to get it to run at all
[11:26] <h36sa> that's pretty warm
[11:26] <nickrud> holycow: -devel I think
[11:26] <Wolfv> it was already preconfigured for suse, I think
[11:26] <jort> ok next question :D, i installed et (enemy territory) on my machine (the linux version), install was good no errors. Execute the file to open the game gave a couple of seconds a black screen but no error or anything (the program wouldnt start)
[11:26] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: its because of the local farting badger that hangs around one of the craziers devs
[11:26] <h36sa> although that laptop is in my room which is warmer than where the other one is :P
[11:26] <holycow> danke nickrud, 'preciate that
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> WolfV: so your using a sysaptic pkg manager?
[11:27] <thompa> h36sa: desktop was just flipping out
[11:27] <linuxcrazy> n*
[11:27] <Wolfv> yes, linuxcrazy
[11:27] <ralph_> i am trying to get my hsf partition which contains my user data from OS X (dualboot OSX and Ubuntu) to mount. It does mount, but in the directory there appear only files, not the directories I expect.  Read this everybody! http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1
[11:30] <ploom> Jhair, on two different breezy systems, only when making a fld  through nautilus (into a vfat fs)
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-262-1
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> test
[11:31] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: the fix has already been added to universe
[11:31] <chuckyp> linuxboy, people know
[11:31] <kingspawn> linuxcrazy: it has been known for quite a while
[11:31] <linuxcrazy> oh
[11:31] <lesshaste> belkin: did you fix it?
[11:31] <NickGarvey> mm thats dapper only right?
[11:31] <chuckyp> linuxcrazy, yes people already know
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> ok
[11:32] <chuckyp> NickGarvey, breezy only
[11:32] <whiter> how can i clear bash history
[11:32] <NickGarvey> oh
[11:32] <whiter> ?
[11:32] <thompa> im preparing to go to 100C!
[11:32] <NickGarvey> well I'm brezzy
[11:32] <NickGarvey> breezy*
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> woot!
[11:32] <NickGarvey> might want to do that..
[11:32] <thompa> stand by!
[11:32] <nrymiguel> thanx ppl for Skype
[11:32] <belkin> lesshaste have a look here please http://pastebin.com/606350
[11:32] <rkv> damn is there a way to get automatix work on amd64?
[11:32] <nrymiguel> I did it
[11:32] <fluxt> linuxcrazy: if you're still using gnome you would have been notified of the update already
[11:32] <linuxcrazy> 100c here we come!@
[11:32] <mshiltonj> automatix is bad?
[11:32] <nrymiguel> exit
[11:32] <rkv> why?
[11:32] <whiter> what update?
[11:32] <meheren> can someone tell me how to change my default boot in the grub boot manager?
[11:32] <NickGarvey> meheren: its pretty simple
[11:32] <thompa> im just installing celestia, that app takes 100% cpu easy
[11:33] <NickGarvey> meheren: there is a line that says default and a numbe
[11:33] <rkv> so in amd64 u have to install all apps one by one?
[11:33] <meheren> yeh i no about all that...
[11:33] <lesshaste> belkin: ok.. looks ok to me
[11:33] <NickGarvey> meheren: change the number, but note computers count startnig from 0
[11:33] <meheren> but where is the file i have to modify?
[11:33] <lesshaste> belkin: does it still not work?
[11:33] <NickGarvey> /boot/grub/menu.conf
[11:33] <rkv> help someone?
[11:33] <ftg2> meheren: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ... change the line 'default 0' to something more appropriate. entries start counting at 0, etc
[11:33] <whiter> how can i clear bash's history?
[11:33] <meheren> NIckgarvey k thx
[11:33] <NickGarvey> no prob
[11:34] <lesshaste> whiter: history -c
[11:34] <rkv> .... damn
[11:34] <NickGarvey> rkv: mm I never got my laptop which uses amd64 working with linux
[11:34] <rkv> oh k
[11:34] <NickGarvey> but the hardware is very new and odd, I'm not the only one with problems
[11:34] <meheren> NickGarvey, just one thing... ive forgotten does it count the little thing that says "other os" as a number...?
[11:34] <NickGarvey> so I don't know if its the processor
[11:35] <rkv> well my amd64 laptop is workin on ubuntu
[11:35] <ftg2> meheren: it does
[11:35] <NickGarvey> meheren: yes it does
[11:35] <rkv> *desktop
[11:35] <belkin> lesshaste well there is no image while im doing that
[11:35] <thompa> starting at 58c
[11:35] <h36sa> thompa: I'm load-testing my centrino running a very current version of gentoo and it's getting WAY hotter than it should
[11:35] <techrush> hi thompa :)
[11:35] <thompa> really
[11:35] <thompa> hi
[11:35] <meheren> k
[11:35] <ploom> Jhair, can't you try it?
[11:35] <asylumius> Is there something I can change in my apache conf if it wont recognize .php files (tries to download them). The only exception is when its the index.php file.
[11:35] <meheren> NickGarvey, k that's what i thought... thx
[11:35] <h36sa> my p4 only got up to 63.. I shut my centrino down at 76
[11:35] <rkv> is there any other like compilation of software package that is like click and install to my amd64 ?
[11:35] <thompa> techrush: im about to blow up my comuputer
[11:36] <techrush> its still running hot huh ?
[11:36] <_jason> belkin: are your speakers on?  you didn't hear anything?
[11:36] <h36sa> the centrino isn't really configured yet, just got it.. but still, I'd say something is probably wrong in the kernel or acpi code right now
[11:36] <ploom> thompa, can you touch by hand (or finger) - is it really so hot??
[11:36] <thompa> 70c
[11:36] <h36sa> what are pentium-m's rated for?
[11:36] <thompa> 73c
[11:36] <lesshaste> belkin: oh :)
[11:37] <lesshaste> belkin: try cvs :)
[11:37] <thompa> 76c
[11:37] <rkv> i have a creative sound card how do i get it to work?
[11:37] <ploom> thompa,  otherwise its just crap...
[11:37] <belkin> _jason nothing . no image no sound
[11:37] <thompa> do i need to stand back?
[11:37] <_jason> belkin: never mind I see errors for that too, umm try asking in #mplayer about what is going on
[11:37] <thompa> 81c
[11:37] <thompa> 83c
[11:37] <belkin> _jason hmm ok thanks a lot for your time
[11:37] <meheren> what's the command for text editor?
[11:37] <techrush> its gonna melt soon :(
[11:37] <belkin> lesshaste thanks
[11:38] <thompa> 85c
[11:38] <_jason> meheren: nano is one
[11:38] <thompa> its getting hot
[11:38] <meheren> k thx
[11:38] <techrush> meheren, nano
[11:38] <lesshaste> belkin: good luck!
[11:38] <meheren> _jason, techrush, k thx
[11:38] <thompa> 88c
[11:38] <h36sa> hmm.. feeling my laptop I'd say it actually IS running that hot
[11:38] <fluxt> thompa: have you confirmed that is the actual temp in the bios?
[11:39] <thompa> no bios temp
[11:39] <h36sa> thompa: what's acpi -V say
[11:39] <CaptainMorgan> how do I install fonts for Linux's firefox that appear in Win's firefox?
[11:39] <thompa> 90C and rising
[11:39] <thompa> 91C
[11:39] <chuckyp> !tell CaptainMorgan about fonts
[11:39] <fluxt> !fonts
[11:39] <ubotu> fonts is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto
[11:39] <_jason> !msttcorefonts
[11:39] <ubotu> [msttcorefonts]  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[11:40] <thompa> i dont even have nvidia driver running
[11:40] <thompa> 92C
[11:40] <linuxcrazy> can someone give me instructions on how to install libdvdcss?
[11:40] <_jason> !dvd
[11:40] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[11:41] <h36sa> thompa: go feel it.. is it really that hot?
[11:41] <thompa> no its actually getting cooler
[11:41] <linuxcrazy> seems as though you can't install it through synaptic....
[11:41] <h36sa> o...k
[11:41] <thompa> 93C
[11:41] <_jason> linuxcrazy: see what ubotu said above
[11:41] <sEbaKiLLeR> hi
[11:41] <ploom> thompa, why dont you try by hand? Usually systems get halted like by 80 deg C afaik
[11:41] <fluxt> how do you get the acpi program to report temps.. acpt -V reports: No support for device type: therma
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> can someone help me with this file
[11:42] <fluxt> acpi*
[11:42] <thompa> 94C, what should i check
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> i cant recognise the language
[11:42] <asylumius> !find apache2
[11:42] <h36sa> ploom: nah intels can handle the heat
[11:42] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: what are you trying to do?
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> its an exploit
[11:42] <thompa> 95C and rising
[11:42] <h36sa> fluxt: maybe you need to run acpid
[11:42] <sEbaKiLLeR> but i cant recognise the language
[11:43] <sEbaKiLLeR> it seems to be for c++
[11:43] <_jason> sEbaKiLLeR: this isn't really the right place to ask about exploits
[11:43] <thompa> ploom: how do i check by hand?
[11:43] <CaptainMorgan> I don't have the msttcorefonts package and my mulit and universe repos are selected...
[11:43] <fluxt> h36sa: it's running
[11:43] <ploom> touch it
[11:43] <ploom> thompa, take the case open and touch it
[11:43] <_jason> CaptainMorgan: can you place the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  please
[11:43] <thompa> it feels same as at 55c
[11:43] <sEbaKiLLeR> is just about to compile
[11:43] <thompa> but i got 97C now
[11:44] <thompa> so acpi is screwed up
[11:44] <h36sa> ploom: it's a laptop
[11:44] <thompa> 99C, damn
[11:44] <h36sa> thompa: I wouldn't be so sure.. my laptop got a lot warmer
[11:44] <ploom> h36sa, then he can feel it by balls even
[11:44] <CaptainMorgan> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10361
[11:44] <thompa> it got a little warmer
[11:45] <thompa> if i run bzflag it will heat up
[11:45] <meheren> so... a intel pentium 4 should be running a 686 kernel right...?
[11:45] <fluxt> thompa: it's been known that acpi temps get reported differently and need adjustment on some chipsets (coming from using windows)
[11:45] <h36sa> ok but that's from the video card