[10:33] <RikMills> if nothing weird happens, frameworks 5.81 should migrate on the britney run after the one that is currently running
[10:33] <RikMills> or I mean, what is left to migrate
[10:35] <RikMills> santa_: I assume 5.82 is ready to go when it gets released?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:43] <santa_> RikMills: ack about respin tars, thank you very much
[13:45] <santa_> RikMills: about fw 5.82 everything is almost fine, that thing we discussed in #kde-devel shoudln't be an ABI break also I "fixed" a failed acc test and in my last rebuild plasma and apps built fine against fw 5.82, however...
[13:46] <santa_> RikMills: I have commented out 0001-Revert-systemd-dbus-activation.patch in kglobalaccel
[13:47] <RikMills> why?
[13:48] <santa_> I have seen the related bug reports in KDE and it seems fixed now:
[13:48] <santa_> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429415
[13:48] <santa_> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429426
[13:49] <santa_> RikMills: when I commented out this one ↑ wasn't marked as RESOLVED FIXED and someone was still implying that it was not completely fixed or something
[13:50] <santa_> the patch failed to apply, so I just commented out while waiting for better info
[13:50] <santa_> I guess we could completely remove it now
[13:50] <RikMills> ok, lets see how it goes then
[13:51] <santa_> and that's it that was the only loose end
[13:51] <santa_> wheenever I can I'm going to rebuild everything again from staging
[13:52] <santa_> (in my server I mean, test rebuild)
[13:53] <RikMills> santa_: I would note that I didn't apply that patch for those bugs. At the time systemd activation was messing up our ISO start
[13:53] <RikMills> so we also need to keep an eye on that, though I think the underlying issue on that is also gone
[13:54] <santa_> ok, so let's keep it commented out, and when the packages reach the iso, let's test the iso and confirm that the problem is gone
[13:55] <santa_> and if it's gone, remove completely the patch
[13:55] <santa_> sounds good?
[13:55] <RikMills> yep :)
[13:56] <santa_> ok, another thing, I haven't tested the packages in a VM, but I will do that soon
[13:56] <santa_> not sure if someone else already tested
[13:57] <RikMills> I did briefly a few days ago. Nothing obvious seemed amiss
[17:39] <RikMills> the last of fw 5.81 and app 21.04.0 are finally migrating
[21:33] <mparillo> Plus the remainder of Plasma 5.21.5. No dead kittens in a VM. Discover, System Settings, Konsole, Kate, kinfocenter, and the new System Monitor all seem to work.


[01:47] <cafuego> Is there a known problem with using Edubuntu on vmware5?
[09:22] <cafuego> Anyone awake today?
[09:34] <juliux> cafuego, yes
[09:44] <highvoltage> yep, more or less.
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> please help
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> had problem with the LTSP display manager
[10:09] <newbiewLTSP> can't login username and password
[10:43] <Velmont> newbiewLTSP: Made a user on the server with ssh-axx etc?
[10:44] <Velmont> I didn't manage to get it to work, but then I did something and it worked. Don't remember what though :p Think it was more like a "wait some minutes, try again"-thing... Hm.
[01:01] <gand_> hi all
[01:01] <gand_> I wish to install moodle on edubuntu
[01:02] <gand_> I see that is not among synaptic package list, I'm right?
[01:10] <gand_> ok thank see you later
[02:04] <chilenoneto> hi
[02:05] <chilenoneto> anybody there?
[02:05] <chilenoneto> join #ubuntu
[02:08] <apokryphos> chilenoneto: no-one!
[02:08] <chilenoneto> heheh
[02:08] <apokryphos> no, there are :)
[02:08] <chilenoneto> im looking for someone to ask
[02:09] <apokryphos> no point asking to ask; just ask =)
[02:09] <jsgotangco> hi all
[02:09] <pitux> hello chilenoneto
[02:09] <pitux> i from Chile too
[02:09] <chilenoneto> i have some questions about the availability of Edubunto in the ship-it program on UBUntu
[02:09] <chilenoneto> heheh
[02:09] <jsgotangco> chilenoneto: its not yet available in shipit
[02:10] <chilenoneto> espaol para nosotros, english to the rest
[02:10] <chilenoneto> there is no plan for it to be shipped?
[02:10] <chilenoneto> i have a huge project involving public schools here in asuncion paraguay (where i'm living)
[02:11] <jsgotangco> chilenoneto: none at the moment, probably a few hunderd cds by next year (dapper)
[02:11] <jsgotangco> we'd like to polish it further
[02:11] <chilenoneto> put me on the list
[02:11] <chilenoneto> hehehe
[02:12] <chilenoneto> i knew the ubuntu some time ago , i liked to get it on the schools here, talked with some government people and now we are working to shape a projhect involving linux, and opensource
[02:13] <pitux> chilenoneto cool ;D
[02:13] <apokryphos> nice
[02:13] <chilenoneto> project
[02:14] <chilenoneto> so i'm downloading the edubuntu 5.10 for testing porpouses
[02:15] <chilenoneto> there is a lot to do here in paraguay, cause the technology adoption it's more than poor
[02:15] <apokryphos> cool; let us know what you think of it after
[03:46] <vincenzio> today is the day we set up edubuntu with my tenth grade.
[04:02] <JaneW> vincenzio: great, good luck and enjoy
[05:28] <vzl> hi!
[05:28] <vzl> I have a new edubuntu setup running, and the client cannot log in with either the admin user or a non-admin user.
[05:28] <vzl> lil help?
[05:32] <vzl> I have a new edubuntu setup running, and the client cannot log in with either the admin user or a non-admin user.
[05:32] <vzl> any advice, ogra?
[05:33] <ogra> vzl, check /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/known_hosts
[05:34] <ogra> it should contain a key
[05:35] <vzl> you mean ssh_known_hosts?
[05:35] <ogra> if it doesnt, run "sudo ltsp-build-sshkeys" on the server and make sure the ssh server runs
[05:35] <ogra> yes, sorry
[05:35] <vzl> there are four lines of keys there.
[05:35] <vzl> but they're all for my eth0, not my eth1
[05:35] <vzl> (nat)
[05:36] <vzl> (two nic setup)
[05:36] <ogra> hmm, how did you install edubuntu ?
[05:36] <vzl> from the cd?
[05:36] <vzl> it asked for which nic would be the primary nic, and I said eth0 and gave it a static ip, and then once installed, went and gave eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> and activated it.
[05:37] <vzl> clients on 0.1, internet on eth0
[05:37] <ogra> ah, k the static ip should be for the thin clients
[05:37] <vzl> okay, how badly am I doing here- did I issue dhcp over the interface that's going to the internet?
[05:37] <ogra> just wipe the file and run the above command again while the interface is up, that should be enough
[05:38] <ogra> nope, if your thin clients boot, all is fine with dhcp
[05:38] <vzl> ltsp-build-sshkeys is not a found command.
[05:39] <vzl> do you mean update?
[05:39] <vzl> instead of build?
[05:39] <ogra> err, yes...
[05:41] <vzl> ok, my admin user can log in froma client. but a non-admin user cannot.
[05:41] <vzl> i lie, it just worked on the third try
[05:42] <ogra> :)
[05:42] <vzl> now, how to do both pxe and etherboot?
[05:43] <ogra> use a rom-o-matic etherboot image, they have a pxe mode for that...
[05:43] <vzl> oh good.
[05:44] <ogra> there is some info somewhere on wiki.edubuntu.org
[05:44] <ogra> but the rom-o-matic creator is very straight forward, doesnt really require instrucions imho...
[05:44] <vzl> you say that now...
[05:44] <vzl> ;)
[05:45] <vzl> this is excellent.
[05:46] <vzl> now, how bad would it be to do this over 802.11b ?
[05:46] <vzl> or g?
[05:47] <ogra> there is a wireless bootimage mentioned somewhere on the ltsp wiki, you can try that, i have no experience with wlan ltsp to be honest :)
[05:47] <ogra> but you will need a bootdevice for that (cdrom, floppy, whatever)
[05:48] <vzl> sure, sure
[06:44] <magnon> ogra: oh, my colleague made a wlan boot once
[06:44] <magnon> but it's not very sexy.
[06:55] <juliux> ogra, ping
[06:56] <vincenzio> magnon: it isn't?
[06:56] <vincenzio> uses a lot of network resources?
[06:56] <magnon> vincenzio: no, just the process it uses to boot wlan could be nicer
[06:57] <vincenzio> I wonder, is that process documented anywhere?
[06:57] <magnon> probably not
[06:57] <magnon> my colleague is a slacker :p
[06:58] <vincenzio> where do you work, may I ask?
[06:58] <magnon> own business
[06:58] <magnon> me, him, and a third slacker :)
[06:59] <vincenzio> nice.
[06:59] <vincenzio> two slackers?
[07:00] <magnon> thre
[07:00] <magnon> e
[07:00] <magnon> I slack as well :)
[07:00] <vincenzio> right.
[07:00] <vincenzio> what line of work is it where you can slack and own your own business for any length of time, I wonder.
[07:00] <magnon> depends how much profit you want
[07:01] <vincenzio> so, how much do you want? ;)
[07:01] <magnon> right now, more than I have :D
[07:02] <magnon> actually we're just slacking because I was going to UBZ and that wasn't a good time to get new projects
[07:03] <magnon> when I stop jetlagging I will work a lot
[07:08] <jelkner> highvoltage: how are you?
[07:09] <magnon> hello, elkner
[07:09] <jelkner> magnon: do you have a minute to answer a question or 2?
[07:10] <magnon> sure
[07:10] <jelkner> i've a few issues with this edubuntu system, and only 20 minutes before i have to leave for my next class
[07:10] <jelkner> first problem:
[07:10] <jelkner> W: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:11] <magnon> ouch. on breezy? not good
[07:11] <magnon> but it's only a warning, it shouldn't be a problem
[07:11] <jelkner> yeah, but i don't get that on the other systems, why?
[07:11] <magnon> I saw some other people having the same problem, but can't remember anyone saying why
[07:12] <jelkner> ok, more important problem
[07:12] <ogra> jelkner, because the mirror you use is just in the middle of an update...
[07:12] <jelkner> ahh, thanks!
[07:12] <highvoltage> jelkner: good thanks, and you?
[07:12] <jelkner> more serious problem: no can log in
[07:12] <ogra> run apt-get update again / reload in synaptic to get the fixed key ...
[07:12] <jelkner> ok
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 3
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/local.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/cdd.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 5
[07:12] <jelkner> Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/usr/share/gconf/debian.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 6Nov  7 13:07:01 localhost gconfd (root-7916): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 7
[07:12] <highvoltage> i just bought my first car.
[07:13] <jelkner> congratulations!
[07:13] <magnon> jelkner: oh, that's normal
[07:13] <ogra> check /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh for a valid known_hosts file and check that sshd is running
[07:13] <highvoltage> jelkner: thanks :)
[07:13] <ogra> the above messages are normal login messages
[07:13] <jelkner> but it won't let me log in
[07:13] <jelkner> or anyone
[07:14] <ogra> have you read what i wrote above ?
[07:14] <magnon> I doubt that gconf is the error then
[07:14] <jelkner> yes, hold on...
[07:14] <ogra> if the file is empty or the interfaces changed since install it wont hold the right keys
[07:14] <jelkner> ahh, there is no known_hosts file
[07:14] <ogra> just run sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys
[07:15] <ogra> it should (re)generate it
[07:15] <vincenzio> jelkner: it's ssh_known_hosts anyway
[07:15] <ogra> yup
[07:16] <jelkner> ok, let me try to log in...
[07:22] <jelkner> great, everything works!
[07:23] <jelkner> i just setup an hp laserjet printer on the net using directjet... worked like a charm
[07:23] <magnon> oh good :)
[07:23] <magnon> printers are becoming less crap
[07:23] <jelkner> ok, the customer is happy, time to go back to teaching... ;-)
[07:23] <jelkner> see you all later.
[07:23] <jelkner> thanks!
[07:24] <ogra> bye
[07:24] <magnon> what customer :D
[07:25] <vincenzio> he's in a school environ. I imagine the customer was a teacher.
[07:26] <magnon> I know who he is ;)
[07:26] <vincenzio> I'm also teaching a class at the moment
[07:30] <highvoltage> ogra: howdy.
[07:31] <ogra> highvoltage, what is this jonathan launchpad team for ?
[07:31] <ogra> hi, btw
[07:31] <highvoltage> it's a secret among the jonathan's of Ubuntu.
[07:32] <highvoltage> we have to keep the mystery up :)
[07:32] <highvoltage> ogra: are you back at home?
[07:32] <ogra> nope...
[07:32] <highvoltage> how are you doing? canada nice?
[07:32] <ogra> trying to come over my hangover from yesterday night and wait for time to pass for grabbing my taxi
[07:33] <highvoltage> sounds amasing.
[07:33] <highvoltage> it's been a long while since i had a hangover.
[07:34] <highvoltage> i've come to some realisations the past few weeks. i thought that i have to wait until i have a long period of leave before getting involved in motu, and doing gym regularly, taking guitar lessons... etc.
[07:35] <highvoltage> but then i realised i should just learn to schedule all the things i want to do in my regular routine.
[07:35] <highvoltage> so i'm going to do some planning this week and get my time management sorted out.
[07:35] <ogra> the weather is intrestingly springlike
[07:35] <highvoltage> how so?
[07:36] <ogra> sunny and warm
[07:36] <highvoltage> here the spring is only giving us hayfever.
[07:36] <highvoltage> ah, right, it's "fall" there :)
[07:36] <ogra> they lock the room for lunch...
[07:36] <ogra> so i have to leave...
[07:36] <highvoltage> are you outside?
[07:36] <ogra> brb
[07:43] <juliux> ogra, here it something about the workshop in essen http://www.poweroftwo.de/wiki/index.php/Edubuntu  what dou you think about it?
[12:00] <cafuego> Anyone still awake?


[03:31] <savvas> is there a way to prevent a package from building in certain architectures? can "Architecture" be used for the Source package in debian/control?
[03:36] <StevenK> savvas: The simplest way is to get the package added to Packages-arch-specific, and then Soyuz won't even add builds for those arches
[03:36] <savvas> ah, it's an old package, gambas 1 :)
[03:37] <savvas> the best way would be to patch it for 2, but I don't know that programming language hehe
[03:37] <savvas> StevenK: thanks though, noted!
[07:36] <dholbach> good morning
[07:36] <slytherin> dholbach: good morning. :-)
[07:36] <dholbach> hi slytherin
[07:49] <DanMcGoo> hi
[07:50] <DanMcGoo> need help
[07:51] <micahg> DanMcGoo: it's usually easier to just post your issue
[07:51] <micahg> someone will reply if they can
[07:51] <iulian> Morning dholbach.
[07:51] <DanMcGoo> ok ^^
[07:53] <DanMcGoo> I am trying to configure mini-dinstall and pbuilder in order to resolve some dependencies
[07:53] <dholbach> hi iulian
[07:53] <DanMcGoo> in order to test one of my package building
[07:53] <DanMcGoo> but it does not seems to work
[10:10] <loell> general question, if one is to package for debian, does one really needs to setup a debian system and not ubuntu?
[10:11] <gaspa> loell: it's really better, you can find differences in build systems, too.
[10:12] <loell> gaspa, it's just i'm really frustrated at setting up sid :(
[10:12] <gaspa> loell: just use a virtual machine.
[10:13] <loell> sidux?
[10:13] <loell> i mean vm with sidux? or generic sid?
[10:14] <gaspa> loell: I didn't know sidux... it depends from how it differ from a clean debian, imho.
[10:14] <loell> ok
[10:15] <loell> this has actually made me appreciate more, at how ubuntu makes it easier for packagers
[10:19] <directhex> i just use a pbuilder & wait to get moaned at if it breaks in a real environment
[10:19] <directhex> i'm naughty like that
[10:20] <siretart`> directhex: how do you test your debian builds then? pbuilder login?
[10:21] <loell> on related question, does lintian depend on specific build environment?
[10:21] <directhex> siretart, aye
[10:24] <loell> directhex, i wish i could do something like that too, but not having a mentor is difficult to hide what your build environment really is :)
[10:26] <directhex> loell, it becomes easier (to break the archive?) ifwhen the powers that be approve my DD application
[10:27] <loell> directhex, oh my, i couldn't wait to be under your wings :D
[10:30] <loell> OTH, how about i should just do the revu route then give back to debian later?
[10:31] <loell> how feasible would that be?
[10:32] <loell> or more generally, how does ubuntu give back to debian again? ;)
[10:33] <RAOF> loell: Well, by joining one of the various debian CLI teams!
[10:34] <loell> ah i see
[10:38] <slytherin> directhex: banshee works very well in jaunty (i386). :-)
[10:38] <slytherin> loell: What problems are you facing setting up sid?
[10:45] <directhex> slytherin, i wish i had the means to track down this ppc thing though :(
[10:45] <directhex> slytherin, lack of access to hardware sucks. is there no way to use qemu effectively?
[10:53] <loell> slytherin, setting up the build environment
[10:53] <loell> my bad, for taking a while to reply.
[11:16] <slytherin> loell: I thoought you were having issues in installing Debian sid
[11:17] <loell> slytherin, and that too
[11:17] <slytherin> loell: what kind of issues in installation?
[11:18] <slytherin> directhex: how hard is it to track without hardware?
[11:18] <loell> minor once, i must concede
[11:18] <loell> like no grub entry for ubuntu
[11:19] <loell> no pidgin package!?
[11:19] <directhex> slytherin, well, it's a PPC-only bug you've got, so i need a way to reproduce it to isolate it.
[11:19] <directhex> slytherin, i think the problem is with the sqlite binding, but that's a pure guess
[11:20] <loell> slytherine, in ubuntu, ubuntu-dev meta-package would most probably be enough
[11:20] <loell> but i'm stumped on how to redo that on sid
[11:22] <loell> err i mean ubuntu-dev-tools
[11:26] <slytherin> directhex: hmm, does it look like one of those endian related issues?
[11:26] <directhex> slytherin, i don't know. not obviously so, but i'd be surprised if it was something else
[11:27] <slytherin> loell: there is no ubuntu-dev-tools package for Debian (it's obvious). And you don't need ubuntu-dev-tools to setup pbuilder for Debian sid.
[11:28] <slytherin> directhex: do you have any idea where I should I look for the problem? Banshee code or sqlite bindings?
[11:28] <loell> which i just installed pbuilder which requires me a mirror?
[11:29] <loell> i could have swear i've use pbuilder in ubuntu many times, but setting a mirror wasn't one of them, when i use it
[11:30] <slytherin> loell: have you gone through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto It nicely explains how to setup different chroots from Debian and Ubuntu.
[12:00] <slytherin> directhex: pm?
[12:02] <directhex> slytherin, well the challenge is trying to find a reproducible test case, but it's such a wide search space :/
[12:03] <directhex> slytherin, gah, and the debugger is only for i386/amd64
[12:26] <bigon> could someone have a look at bug 389203 ?
[12:27] <bigon> it's for a sru (no changes only rebuild)
[13:07] <roshan08> hi all, i am writing a desktop app for blogging, how does a deb gets included in the ubuntu repo
[13:08] <Ampelbein> roshan08: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages
[13:09] <roshan08> Ampelbein, ok thanks
[13:32] <rrittenhouse> Anyone know how soon firefox 3.5 might be available as a replacement to firefox 3.0 in 9.04?
[13:42] <ogra> never ?
[13:43] <RainCT> ogra: I think it'll be made available in -backports
[13:43] <ogra> right
[13:43] <ogra> but not as a replacement
[13:44] <slytherin> ogra is correct here. It will never be made available as replacement.
[13:44] <RainCT> right, missed that part of the question
[13:45] <RainCT> (but it can be set as the default browser in System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications, of course)
[13:45] <ogra> indeed
[13:48] <slytherin> geser: It is bugs like this - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535919 - that make the sync of maven related packages very time consuming. :-(
[13:53] <geser> slytherin: does it at least build with openjdk?
[13:54] <slytherin> geser: it should, I guess.
[14:00] <slytherin> geser: there are two options 1. Sync all the maven related packages from Debian and try solving FTBFS on our own. 2. Try test building the packages first, report any FTBFS to Debian and then sync them. What do you suggest?
[14:06] <geser> depends on how quick it get fixed in Debian, I'd probably do a mix of 1 and 2: Test build, upload (if patch is necessary) or sync, and forward the patch to Debian
[14:11] <directhex> moo
[14:13] <artfwo> Hi! I wonder is it possible to backport the fix for bug 309841 to Hardy and Intrepid as an update (not a backport)?
[14:22] <bddebian> Heya gang
[14:23] <iulian> Hello bddebian.
[14:23] <bddebian> Hi iulian
[14:25] <geser> Hi bddebian
[14:28] <bddebian> Heya geser
[14:32] <slytherin> TheMuso: did you get any chance to test your theory regarding build failures on powerpc?
[14:39] <slytherin> dholbach: nice and to the point of reply. :-)
[14:39] <dholbach> slytherin: thanks for the flowers :)
[14:41] <dholbach> nhandler: I don't know if I replied to your UbuntuDeveloperWeek edit, but if you can get a perl packaging session rolling for UDW - that'd be fantastic
[14:41] <dholbach> nhandler: can you please get them to pick a date and time? :)
[14:45] <nhandler> dholbach: I'm still talking with some of them. I'll try and get them to choose a date and time sometime this week
[14:45] <dholbach> excellent
[14:45] <dholbach> thanks a lot nhandler!
[14:46] <dholbach> much appreciated
[14:46] <nhandler> :)
[14:46] <dholbach> the earlier we get the schedule together, the better :)
[14:47] <nhandler> dholbach: I think we should make a stronger effort to get the Debian teams involved in these sessions. Most of the tools/procedures would be the same, but it would boost interaction between Ubuntu and Debian.
[14:47] <dholbach> absolutely
[14:48] <Laney> will there be a Debian collaboration session?
[14:48] <Laney> has there been before?
[14:55] <dholbach> Laney: there has
[14:56] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0901/Debian
[14:56] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0802/Debian
[14:56] <Laney> yay
[14:56] <dholbach> and maybe at UOW too
[14:57] <dholbach> if you could help to chase up people who want to run a session and get them to drop me an email, I'd really really appreciate it :)
[14:59] <Laney> we have some DDs in here
[14:59] <dholbach> maybe something about Packaging QA efforts?
[14:59] <dholbach> like NBS, getting a package to be lintian-clean, etc.
[15:00] <dholbach> finding out what a new standards-version is about
[15:00] <dholbach> and so on
[16:06] <Laney> DktrKranz: geser: gaspa: In case you guys didn't notice, pkg-haskell is now live
[16:08] <DktrKranz> Laney: uh?
[16:09] <Laney> debian team
[16:09] <Laney> just pinged the people who I thought might care
[16:09] <DktrKranz> ah, cool
[16:09] <DktrKranz> wasn't a team up already?
[16:09] <Laney> not really
[16:10] <Laney> it existed but was dead
[16:11] <gaspa> Laney: saw right now your post.
[16:11] <Laney> \o
[16:12] <DktrKranz> Laney: did you mail something?
[16:12] <Laney> to who?
[16:13] <DktrKranz> ubuntu-motu, or whatever?
[16:13] <Laney> nope
[16:13] <Laney> thought it was a bit too niche for anyone to care
[16:14] <gaspa> Laney: so, will we stand with 6.10.3 ? (i don't seen any news about 6.12 )
[16:14] <Laney> i guess so :(
[16:15] <Laney> Joachim just came up with a tool to generate the required rebuilds. I'll hack that up for Ubuntu and then we can start to clean up the mess
[16:15] <gaspa> Laney: is there a wiki page?
[16:16] <Laney> there's wiki.d.o/haskell but most stuff is happening on the ML now
[16:16] <gaspa> I hear something about it... but never investigate.
[16:16] <gaspa> ah
[16:16] <Laney> come to the IRC channel
[16:19] <DktrKranz> Laney: great, we really need it.
[17:56] <kklimonda> asac, why doesn't firefox 3.5 (the one from jaunty-security) doesn't use mozilla branding?
[17:57] <kklimonda> erm, doesn't.. sigh.. i need some sleep
[17:59] <asac> kklimonda: we only ship the default browser with official branding
[18:00] <asac> also we explicitly want the package to be installed side by side
[18:00] <asac> and having same branding causes confusino then
[18:00] <asac> because you cannot identify, what icon mean what ;)
[18:00] <kklimonda> i see, thanks
[18:00] <asac> but first reason is the dominating reason. also changing branding in a -security update is beyond its scope (even beyond SRU)
[18:01] <asac> its a main UI element ... and changing UI is officially forbidden
[18:01] <kklimonda> mhm
[18:33] <joaopinto> kklimonda, that bug report you were handling for cherrypy, I believe you used it for an SRU please note that Karmic's version is still not fixed (or was not, the last time I have checked)
[18:34] <kklimonda> joaopinto, i know about it
[18:34] <joaopinto> ok
[18:36] <kklimonda> joaopinto, i think I've attached a debdiff for it to update to 3.1.2.. I'm almost sure that I should have done it differently (i.e. attach .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz) but I couldn't find a right page when I was last working on that
[19:34] <RoAkSoAx> Hey guys, I'm trying to package from scratch an app. This app already comes with a debian/ directory. What should be done in this cases?
[19:34] <nhandler> RoAkSoAx: You can try and contact the upstream developer to try and have them remove that directory from the tarball
[19:35] <RoAkSoAx> nhandler, if they refuse to do that?? Should I just debianize it myself?
[19:46] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, you can code a get-orig-source to clean up the upstream tarball, and then debianise from there
[19:47] <hggdh> (in ./debian/rules)
[19:49] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh, you mean for example create a script that cleans up the upstreams tarball or a Makefile that does that?
[19:51] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, if this is a new package, just clean it up; then, in the ./debian/rules that you will have, add in a get-orig-source rule to grab a new/current version. This will allow for a reviewer to confirm there are no other changes to the upstream source
[19:52] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh, ok thanks :)
[19:52] <hggdh> in the get-orig-source, you download the source from upstream, remove the ./debian directory, and tarball it
[19:54] <RoAkSoAx> ok cool :)
[19:58] <ScottK> RoAkSoAx: Repacking is not required unless you need to remove a file completely in their debian dir.  It's up to you if you want to fix their packaging or do your own.
[20:01] <RoAkSoAx> ScottK, ok. I guess doing my own packaging will be better then. Thanks :)
[20:28] <neversfelde> Hi, how can I replace a ../0.9.951.0Beta1/.. in a watch file?
[20:40] <Ampelbein> neversfelde: untested: versionmangle=s/\/0\.9\.951\.0Beta1\//<whateveryouwant>
[20:40] <neversfelde> Ampelbein: thank you
[23:11] <daurnimator_> hi
[23:11] <daurnimator_> theres a couple of lua librarys I would really like to be put in ubuntu repos, is there someone that can help?
[23:16] <micahg> ping mdeslaur_
[23:29] <daurnimator_> ok, I filed a bug for one package
[23:30] <daurnimator_> but theres another I'm not sure if I should file for: its a new library that has just had it's first release...
[23:43] <mdeslaur_> micahg: pong
[23:44] <micahg> mdeslaur_: did your phpmyadmin updates take care of all the outstanding CVEs?
[23:45] <mdeslaur_> micahg: yes, except CVE-2008-2960 on hardy
[23:45] <micahg> ok, cool
[23:45] <mdeslaur_> micahg: I didn't make updates for dapper though
[23:45] <micahg> should I open a new bug report if more are released?
[23:45] <mdeslaur_> micahg: sure
[23:45] <micahg> ok, thanks mdeslaur_
[23:48] <Arimal> can anyone help me out with using dpkg-scanpackages to make a repository? for some reason it is not printing anything into the Packages file
[23:48] <Arimal> I'm trying to make a local repository
[23:49] <Arimal> I've read the man page and I believe I have everything set right, but for some reason it isn't outputting anything
[23:49] <azeem> Arimal: what command are you running?
[23:50] <Arimal> find . -name "*.deb" > override
[23:50] <Arimal> then
[23:50] <Arimal> dpkg-scanpackages -m /media/disk/Loot/Debs/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386 override > Packages
[23:50] <Arimal> then
[23:50] <Arimal> cat Packages | gzip -c > Packages.gz
[23:51] <azeem> AFAIK, dpkg-scanpackages expects a path where to look for .debs
[23:51] <azeem> and the current directory is not default
[23:51] <Arimal> I've tried messing with the path in the dpkg-scanpackages
[23:51] <Arimal> I tried just a    .
[23:51] <Arimal> while in that directory
[23:51] <azeem> no idea then, sorry
[23:52] <Arimal> it gives some error info saying there are duplicates and everything, so it is finding the packages, but for some reason it's just not outputting
[23:53] <azeem> maybe Packages is read-only or something?
[23:53] <Arimal> thanks for trying azeem
[23:53] <Arimal> I deleted it before starting... so it's generated new each time through
[23:53] <Arimal> I've been wracking my brain over this because this script used to work fine
[23:54]  * ajmitch just has something like:
[23:54] <ajmitch> dpkg-scanpackages . -a amd64 /dev/null
[23:55] <ajmitch> so an empty override file, and everything below the current directory
[23:55] <Arimal> so /dev/null is the override?
[23:55] <Arimal> hmmm
[23:55] <Arimal> brb
[23:55] <Arimal> will try it
[23:55] <ajmitch> or you could try something like reprepro
[23:58] <Arimal> hmmm.... still no output but i did get an error this time... apparently it doesn't like the froswire deb ;)   trying again