[01:04] <bkerensa> philballew: http://soundcloud.com/bkerensa/cloud-magic
[01:04] <darthrobot> Title: [Cloud Magic by Benjamin Kerensa on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free]
[01:04] <bkerensa> ^ Theme Music for UDS-R Plenaries :P
[01:04]  * philballew listens
[01:06] <philballew> I might be there
[01:07] <bkerensa> ;p
[01:07] <bkerensa> I won't be
[01:08] <philballew> bkerensa, will never leave the west cost
[01:09] <bkerensa> Oh no I disagree
[01:09] <bkerensa> If UDS is on the East Coast I have no problem going
[01:10] <bkerensa> I might go up to Vancouver BC soon  :D
[01:10] <philballew> bkerensa, You and the or loco should rent a van and drive to the next uds
[01:11] <bkerensa> the next UDS is in copenhagen... I don't think that would work well
[01:11] <bkerensa> plus almost all of our LoCo is sponsored to every UDS anyways
[01:11] <bkerensa> ;p
[01:11] <bkerensa> Either Canonical or their employers pay their travel
[01:12] <philballew> You must feel really cool!
[01:13] <MarkDude> philballew, they ARE cool, they contribute to Ubuntu in a great manner
[01:13] <philballew> Agreed MarkDude
[01:14] <MarkDude> Dont get me wrong I like to tease Ben, but his leadership and stuff done are NOT on that list ;D
[01:15] <bkerensa> philballew: heh I don't get sponsored everytime... Just the Canonical and Google folks up here
[01:15] <bkerensa> MarkDude: I'm telling yeah man... Richmond fumes did not do you good
[01:32] <philballew> These no Canonical people is Sacramento
[01:32] <philballew> Im alone in a ubuntu world
[02:32] <nhaines> Okay, so today's what-if was worth the wait: http://what-if.xkcd.com/6/
[02:32] <darthrobot> Title: [Glass Half Empty]
[02:42] <akk> nhaines: I don't understand why the water on the left isn't falling. Are we in a gravity-free zone?
[02:43] <pleia2> hehe "free glass"
[02:43] <akk> heh
[02:57] <nhaines> akk: not enough time.
[02:58] <nhaines> akk: it does fall, but it's also pushed into the glass by air pressure, plus the glass is being pushed up faster.
[02:58] <akk> I kinda wish he'd quantify that ... it's hard to believe the glass would get sucked up before the water fell even a tiny amount.
[02:59] <akk> Seems at least worth mentioning.
[02:59] <pleia2> there are shuttles from civic center
[02:59] <pleia2> er
[02:59] <pleia2> hi window focus
[03:02] <philballew> seems confusing!
[03:02] <philballew> pleia2, I think Ill come to your ubuntu hour tomorrow
[03:03] <pleia2> philballew: yay!
[03:03] <philballew> I need a way to beat this heat
[03:03] <pleia2> it's not hot here :)
[03:04] <akk> Supposed to be a lot hotter tomorrow (today wasn't too bad here, tomorrow might be).
[03:04] <akk> Which means it'll probably be lovely in SF. :)
[03:04] <pleia2> yeah, high of 71 tomorrow
[03:05] <philballew> triple digits today iirc here
[03:05] <philballew> its not that bad when you dont have smoke and therefor can afford to be outside if you need to, but when
[03:05] <pleia2> high around 70 all weekend, which will be beautiful, I'll be at outside lands
[03:05] <philballew> i am riding say 8 miles on a bike its hard
[03:06] <philballew> 70 sounds beautiful.
[03:06] <akk> Yeah, it's rough when you have to bike to get somewhere.
[04:22] <\sh> good evening...
[04:23] <scientes> especially when you have to paint a bike shed to put it in
[04:24] <\sh> can someone give me some good locations to go to in SF? (not the tourist stuff pls ;)) or eventually to meet some ubuntu folks in SF or Concord round about the 15th/16th of August?
[04:24] <scientes> the Golden Gate National Recreation Area
[04:24] <scientes> in Marin
[04:25] <\sh> any good pubs/bars/restaurants not to be missed?
[04:30] <\sh> btw...is anyone of you going to the kiss/moetley crue concert in concord on the 16th?
[06:35] <philballew> Bay area smart people:
[06:35] <philballew> So in SF, are there areas that are safe at night, and one's that are not?
[06:48] <nhaines> Somebody tell philballew about the Tenderloin district.
[06:51] <nhaines> TIL: Benjamin Kerensa thinks "mean't" is a word.
[06:51] <nhaines> Which reminds me that I love the built-in spell checker in Android 4.1
[06:54] <bkerensa> nhaines: where did you see this? And yes it was probably my auto-correct =/
[06:54] <bkerensa> or perhaps not
[06:54] <bkerensa> pleia2 almost killed me for my apostrophe usage earlier ;p
[06:54] <nhaines> bkerensa: https://plus.google.com/115750270177636397262/posts/DqDUFDNNB2Z
[06:54] <darthrobot> Title: [Benjamin Kerensa - Google+ - Papa John's CEO says he doesn't support the Affordable Care…]
[06:54] <bkerensa> ahh that was via mobile
[06:54] <bkerensa> :D
[06:55] <nhaines> Swype can be a blessing and a curse!
[06:55] <nhaines> I like the word prediction in the stock keyboard.  Also it can decypher some really lazy typing from me.
[06:55] <bkerensa> Swype?
[06:56] <bkerensa> I kind of wish their was an app that ran everything through "After the Deadline"
[06:56] <nhaines> Android keyboard that gets me up to about 45wpm or so.
[06:56] <bkerensa> wow
[07:14] <bkerensa> nhaines: Nuclear Dirt -> http://goo.gl/maps/cYF1l
[07:14] <darthrobot> [R: maps.google.com] Title: [Treasure Island, San Francisco, CA - Google Maps]
[07:16] <nhaines> Would make a good power source!
[07:16] <bkerensa> heh
[07:16] <bkerensa> Not this stuff
[07:16] <bkerensa> Its all radioactive soil, metal and concrete
[07:17] <bkerensa> perhaps the biggest blocker for Treasure Island ever becoming fully used
[07:17] <bkerensa> too many tons of radioactive waste that they cant move
[17:38] <philballew> oh hello California!
[17:45] <MarkDude> philballew, - when you endorse sumthin' we can call it PBA
[17:45] <MarkDude> philballew, approved
[17:49]  * philballew sticks his thumbs up
[22:02] <bkerensa> philballew: stay away from the Tenderloin
[22:02] <bkerensa> :D
[22:02] <bkerensa> nhaines: ^
[22:05] <nhaines> bkerensa: ha, thanks.  :)
[22:10] <MarkDude> philballew, are you wearing the Jesus sandals to the Tenderloin?
[22:15] <bkerensa> Who thought Ubuntu was using popularity? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1137015/
[22:15] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Pastebin]
[22:29] <MarkDude> ROFL- Fedora forums? Dont go there, waste of time
[22:30] <MarkDude> 431 users- lol
[22:31] <MarkDude> The only thing it is missing is under construction gifs- to make it as relevant as geocities
[22:31] <pleia2> is this the part where we get to brag about what ubuntuforums.org member number we are? ;)
[22:33] <MarkDude> Anyone that steps in and tries to argue Community with Ubuntu folks- has lost fromn the start
[22:33] <MarkDude> I mean Mint has users, not really a Community
[22:33] <MarkDude> An awesome one no less :)
[23:07] <pleia2> greg-g: wait, CC-BY doesn't mean free-for-all?!
[23:07] <pleia2> (it made me flinch too)
[23:08] <pleia2> speaking of CC-BY, one of my street car photos is getting published in a book (with attribution) :)
[23:10] <greg-g> pleia2: YAY!
[23:10] <greg-g> congrats!
[23:10] <greg-g> you do have a bunch of good streetcar photos!
[23:11] <pleia2> yeah, taken with my phone!
[23:11] <pleia2> the author is sending me a copy too
[23:12] <greg-g> now that's pretty classy
[23:13] <greg-g> what is the book?
[23:14] <pleia2> it's actually a book about the F-Line itself, by a retired Muni F-Line operator
[23:15] <greg-g> oh, interesting
[23:15] <greg-g> I like niche books
[23:18] <pleia2> I like train books!
[23:19] <pleia2> I actually learned recently that the trolley museum I grew up near (and always nagged my parents to bring me to) is actually the largest electric railway museum in the world
[23:19] <pleia2> which may not be a big deal to you california people, but I grew up in *maine* - we don't have the biggest of anything!
[23:19] <pleia2> shame I found out about this weeks after my maine trip, I'll have to go next time
[23:22] <MarkDude> Thats cool pleia2
[23:23] <pleia2> for certain values of "cool" I realized I just went pretty far into railway nerd territory there :)
[23:24] <MarkDude> On an irc channel?
[23:24] <pleia2> touche
[23:24] <MarkDude> If you idle on irc, you start in geek/nerd area at get go :D
[23:25]  * MarkDude still laughs about not wanting to get on irc, and now idles in 20 or so channels
[23:26] <pleia2> wendar did a talk at OSCON about using Ubuntu to help with home automation stuff and she talked about how she had little arduino devices that would do all kinds of things, like change colors of lights and things when someone said her nick on irc so she wouldn't have to be at her desk all the time
[23:26] <pleia2> I was like :D :D :D
[23:31] <MarkDude> Oh no, I want that
[23:31] <MarkDude> hella
[23:39] <greg-g> pleia2: cool! (re biggest electric railway museum)
[23:40] <pleia2> oh yeah, ubuntu hour and debian dinner tonight
[23:40] <pleia2> I hope philip makes it
[23:41] <MarkDude> akk, I was wondering if we could ship the other half of Oreilly books to you, and have you meet up with scientes
[23:42] <akk> Where is scientes? That sounds okay with me if we can arrange to get together.
[23:53] <bkerensa> we need a Ubuntu Bus
[23:53] <bkerensa> :D
[23:54] <akk> As long as it's at least 32 bit and parallel. :)


[17:37] <warp10> Anybody knows why lintian (on quantal) complains about this: "E: spotlighter changes: bad-distribution-in-changes-file unstable"?
[17:40] <tumbleweed> that would be incorrect for Ubuntu
[17:40] <tumbleweed> try --profile debian
[17:42] <warp10> tumbleweed: indeed, but lintian always liked it so far (I already worked on packages for debian on older releases).
[17:49] <tumbleweed> well, profiles only appeared a year or two ago
[17:51] <jtaylor> its new in quantal
[17:51] <jtaylor> at least I only see it since a couple of weeks
[17:54] <tumbleweed> my perspection of time is clearly skewed :)
[17:55] <warp10> heh :)
[22:07] <tumbleweed> Laney: the debian dinner has returned
[23:09] <Laney> meow


[00:40] <themartianist> hi, i am trying to install xubuntu to a usb and have it entirely encrypted but the installer does not give me the option any way to work around that?
[00:40] <themartianist> it appears that encryption is only available for installation to a regular hard drive
[00:58] <fibz_> this might help:  http://newspaint.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/full-disk-encryption-on-xubuntu-precise-12-04/
[03:19] <lokote_jones> clear
[04:28] <boldfilter1> Hi, I can't get my window manager to open in compiz mode
[04:28] <boldfilter1> In settings
[04:29] <holstein> boldfilter1: i stopped using compiz.. xfce/xubuntu doest ship with it. what are you trying to accomplish?
[04:29] <boldfilter1> animations
[04:35] <holstein> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html might work
[04:36] <holstein> looks like how i used to do it.
[04:57] <boldfilter1> Sorry, I left. What were you saying?
[05:07] <fibz_> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[05:16] <boldfilter1> Okay, so I have to change the window decoration thru the dconf-editor, Thanks
[05:16] <boldfilter1> Looks great, feels fast, and I can do anything I want with it
[05:16] <boldfilter1> Thanks xfce
[05:25] <TheX_> I have 4 Drive's one that is a empty 35 gig, I would like to install Xubuntu to the 35gig and leave winXP, will the Install ask me where i want Xubuntu to be installed?
[05:25] <fibz_> TheX_,  yes. if you want complete control choose the option for "Something else"
[05:26] <fibz_> it will ask if you want to install alongside windows, remove windows and just have xubuntu or "Something else"
[05:28] <TheX_> Ok Thank you. fibz_ So if i chose  "Something else" i can keep WinXP and use Xubuntu on a seperat drive?
[05:29] <fibz_> if you choose "install alongside windows" it will have a look at your system and make it's best guess at what you want. with "something else", you tell it exactly what you want
[05:33] <TheX_> Ok thanks
[11:04] <xubuntu174dav> Hi all! Sudo thunar command gives the following message: "(thunar:2417): IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/me/.config/ibus/bus is not root!" any help?
[11:51] <xubuntu761> Not sure how this works but can someone help me get Rhythmbox working.  I cannot add tunes from my hard drive and have reinstalled the programme but still no joy.  I'm think  I am doing it right.  Add Music-click hardrive...nothing!?  Anyone?
[17:06] <GTB3NW> Hey can anyone recommend me a screen recording program?
[17:06] <cfhowlett> GTB3NW, recommend you consult your software center - lots of options there
[17:07] <GTB3NW> Mhmm I prefer feedback rather than the software center
[17:08] <holstein> GTB3NW: orca, at least used to be the big well supported one.. but, ideally, you will find what is best for you by just trying them, and seeing what fits your needs
[17:09] <holstein> GTB3NW: you culd try elaborating.. about what you have tried, and what you are looking for specifically.. or, try one of the live distros that includes assistance programs like that, and see what is working for you
[17:09] <GTB3NW> I haven't tried any yet, I'm looking for one which performs well at general screen recording, if it records games okay that is a bonus
[17:09] <GTB3NW> if not I can look at an alternative for game recording
[17:10] <holstein> lol.. i read "reading"
[17:10] <holstein> !info recordmydesktop-gtk
[17:10] <holstein> !info recordmydesktop
[17:10] <cfhowlett> holstein, I wondered what you were thinking ...
[17:10] <holstein> GTB3NW: there are *many*.. and they all do different things
[17:11] <GTB3NW> which is why I was asking for pointers :P
[17:11] <holstein> !info kazam
[17:11] <holstein> i havent used that one ^ but ive read good things about it..
[17:11] <GTB3NW> hmm I've seen RMD on all the recommendations, will have to try it
[17:11] <cfhowlett> GTB3NW, the software center includes user ratings
[17:12] <holstein> GTB3NW: the 'best' pointer is to just try them
[17:12] <holstein> GTB3NW: they are all available free of cost in the default repos where cfhowlett is suggesting you can search
[17:13] <GTB3NW> does RMD integrate with xfce toolbar does anyone know?
[17:13] <GTB3NW> it specifically states gnome
[17:13] <holstein> GTB3NW: nothing about xfce will prevent it from being able to
[17:13] <GTB3NW> okay
[17:13] <holstein> GTB3NW: i would just fire it up and see.. if its GTK, i would think you have a good chance
[17:14] <GTB3NW> yeah looks to be working, gonna test record
[17:14] <GTB3NW> cheers
[17:56] <picea> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gnutls26/libgnutls26_2.12.14-5ubuntu3.6_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:56] <picea> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.70_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:56] <picea> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.70_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:56] <picea> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-headers-generic_<IP_ADDRESS>.70_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:56] <picea> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_3.2.0-59.90_i386.deb 404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:56] <picea> sry, about multiple lines...what should i do to update xubuntu?
[18:01] <GridCube> picea, have you done a sudo apt-get update?
[18:01] <picea> not yet
[18:01] <GridCube> do so
[18:01] <GridCube> always run update before trying to install something
[18:14] <picea> i got these lines when trying to update xubuntu via update manager...
[18:16] <GridCube> yes, the sources might have not been available, an update would check again
[18:17] <GridCube> what release are you using picea
[20:36] <Kn|feTest> hello, sorry to bother, but i have what im sure is a pretty typical problem, the volume applet does not work, id tried googling a few work arounds but nothing seems to work...
[20:36] <Kn|feTest> just did a fresh install
[20:37] <Kn|feTest> id greatly appreciate any assistance with this
[20:40] <TheSheep> Kn|feTest: what does "does not work" mean exactly? What are you doing, what you are expecting to happen and what is actually happening?
[20:41] <wabbla> Kn|feTest: Is it that issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound-gtk2/+bug/1208204? Should be resolved with a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:41] <Kn|feTest> clicking the volume applet and getting a tiny grey box instead of the usual volume slider
[20:42] <Kn|feTest> yes wabbla
[20:43] <Brad_asdf> Looking for a for dummies level guide for  Ubuntu.  I just flashed xubuntu onto my netbook, and I don't know heads from tails even getting the wireless to work.
[20:43] <Poisoned_Dragon> looks like they released a fix. Since you said this is a fresh install, an update is in order.
[20:43] <Kn|feTest> ive gone through the updates
[20:44] <Poisoned_Dragon> is your sound working at all?
[20:44] <wabbla> Kn|feTest: did you also restart Xfce?
[20:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> because, comment 5 of that bug report has the manual fix that always works for me.
[20:45] <Kn|feTest> did full restart of computer after each attempt
[20:46] <Kn|feTest> using the old binary Poisoned_Dragon ?
[20:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, Kn|feTest
[20:47] <Kn|feTest> i'll try it.... now i just need to know how to find it and do it...
[20:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> I wish I could be more helpful, but I'm currently using the xubuntu 14.04 development release.
[20:47] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, no indicator issues for me.
[20:51] <Kn|feTest> actually, did another check for updates and downloading now, no idea why software updater game me a "sytem up to date" when i tried it a few minutes ago, if problem still persists i will return, if not, thank you folks for all your help
[20:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> Kn|feTest, just open /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service with a text editor, with elevated privileges, and edit the Exec= line to the one in the post.
[20:53] <Kn|feTest> thats what i tried originally, but to no effect, i'll see if update helps, this is my second laptop ive installed xubuntu on, the applet resolved itself after updates on my other computer
[20:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmmm.. odd
[21:18] <cub> Often I get a delay when using the xfce-appfinder (alt+F2), any suggestions of a faster alternative?
[21:24] <krytarik> cub: I use Synapse.
[21:25] <cub> krytarik, you think it's "better"?
[21:26] <cub> I was thinking of whisker-menu as it's planned for next release too
[21:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm using whisker-menu now
[21:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> I like it.
[21:31] <cub> any alternative for xfrun4 (alt+F2) too?
[21:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> isn't xfrun4 the same thing?
[21:35] <Poisoned_Dragon> only the collapsed form of appfinder?
[21:36] <cub> I don't think so, I made a typo before. Appfinder is on alt+f3
[21:36] <cub> aha could be?
[21:37] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you press alt+f2 and press down,  poof! magically becomes alt+f3. :)
[21:37] <cub> woaw.
[21:38] <Poisoned_Dragon> mind = blown
[21:39] <cub> hehe
[22:15] <sleezio> hello, i'm wanting to rip my xp cd to iso so i can load it via virtalbox, does xubuntu come with a tool for that already or what is a good program to rip to iso?
[22:16] <sleezio> well, nm, it looks like vbox might load from dvd drive
[22:33] <willwac> hey
[22:33] <willwac> I resently just installed Xubuntu and change over my graphics drivers
[22:34] <willwac> But after I restarted my computer, the GUI wouldn't load because the display isn't set
[22:34] <willwac> how do I fix that?
[23:10] <xubuntu646> need help setting up shared internet for wd tv live
[23:12] <xubuntu646> Please Help! i am not familiar with xubuntu and need help setting up shared internet connection. Please Help!
[23:13] <xubuntu646> hello?
[23:13] <krytarik> !patience | xubuntu646
[23:14] <GridCube> !details | xubuntu646
[23:15] <xubuntu646> i am a windows user and this is my first time using xubuntu. i am having a hard time finding anything period. i dont know what version. it was installed last may. i have no idea where to begin to do anything.
[23:16] <xubuntu646> i want to share an internet connection to a "wd tv live" box connected to my tv
[23:17] <xubuntu646> and honestly i dont know where the problem is because i have no idea what i am doing
[23:18] <xubuntu646> the forums and answers that i have found are a little too advanced for me. i need something extremely simplified.
[23:18] <GridCube> ok, xubuntu646, there might not be
[23:19] <GridCube> the kind of devices that have been designed to work just whit windows might need actual work from our side
[23:19] <GridCube> because the people who created the devices simply dont care about us, and we have to figure out for ourselfs
[23:19] <GridCube> thats sad
[23:20] <GridCube> i would recommend you to patiently read the guides you have found and try to figure out how to make them work for you
[23:21] <xubuntu646> well the big problem i am having is everything tells me to put a code into "root" file, but when i go to rood, it tells me i dont have permission.
[23:21] <xubuntu646> root*
[23:24] <GridCube> xubuntu646, good, :) thats a proble we can help with
[23:25] <GridCube> root is the power user of your computer, the user that can change system files
[23:25] <GridCube> to access and use root powers ubuntu, and xubuntu, use the command sudo
[23:26] <GridCube> you have to type sudo before any command and it will ask you for your password, if you give your password to sudo you will be granted root privileges
[23:26] <GridCube> be careful doing this because root can delete and change all files on your computer, i would recommend you to read and ask if a command is safe to execute before using it with sudo
[23:27] <xubuntu646> ok. thank you for the help and advice
[23:30] <GridCube> xubuntu646, :) no problem, keep asking the things you don't understand and we might be able to guide you to understand them
[23:41] <newuser> whats up peoples.


[00:20] <mwhudson> RAOF: around? fancy deleting kombu from artful-proposed? :)
[00:20] <mwhudson> RAOF: it breaks celery
[00:21] <mwhudson> i guess i should file an archive admin bug
[00:22]  * RAOF has Mondays off for the next month-and-a-half. Please see you regularly scheduled archive admin 😀
[00:38] <mwhudson> ha, as if
[00:38] <mwhudson> i filed a bug anyway
[02:46] <jbicha> SRU Team, please reject the May 13 gnome-shell SRU candidates for xenial, yakkety, zesty; I'll re-upload with another fix
[05:11] <slangasek> jbicha: done
[05:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-shell [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.18.5-0ubuntu0.3]
[05:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-shell [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.20.4-0ubuntu3]
[05:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-shell [source] (zesty-proposed) [3.24.2-0ubuntu0.1]
[06:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sphinx (xenial-proposed/main) [1.3.6-2ubuntu1 => 1.3.6-2ubuntu1.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[08:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sphinx (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.4.8-1 => 1.4.8-1ubuntu0.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)
[08:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apport [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.20.1-0ubuntu2.6]
[08:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted whoopsie [source] (trusty-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu4]
[08:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apport [source] (trusty-proposed) [2.14.1-0ubuntu3.24]
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (xenial-proposed/main) [5.3.5-1ubuntu3.1 => 5.3.5-1ubuntu3.2] (ubuntu-server) (sync)
[08:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (yakkety-proposed/main) [5.3.5-1ubuntu4.1 => 5.3.5-1ubuntu4.2] (ubuntu-server) (sync)
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-ncclient [amd64] (artful-proposed) [0.5.3-1]
[10:11] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, can any AA please remove open-infrastructure-locales-c.utf-8?  debian bug #862343 has the rationale for the removal
[10:11] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks
[10:12] <LocutusOfBorg> reverse-depends seems happy
[10:14]  * apw looks
[10:16] <apw> LocutusOfBorg, put out of our misery
[10:16] <apw> Laney, ^
[10:21] <Laney> thanks apw, LocutusOfBorg
[10:21] <Laney> I thought I checked if we had that in Ubuntu
[10:21] <Laney> must have typoed the package name
[10:22] <apw> Laney, or it came in afterwards
[10:22] <Laney> that was this morning :P
[10:23] <Laney> I think I typed .c-utf-8 instaed of -c.utf-8
[10:24] <infinity> I shouldn't have even had to guess who uploaded that.
[10:26] <LocutusOfBorg> I still think "provides" and "epoch bumps" should go in new queue neverthless
[10:26] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks apw
[10:27]  * apw likes the idea of epoch's getting jammed
[10:27] <LocutusOfBorg> debian bug: #860797 opened by me
[10:28] <mwhudson> what the heck
[10:30] <mwhudson> (that package)
[10:30] <infinity> It makes perfect sense locally, for dba's own infrastructure.  It makes zero sense to ship in a distro.
[12:08] <rbalint1> cjwatson, infinity,slangasek: what do you think about hardlinking duplicated files together in Ubuntu images?
[12:08] <rbalint1> setuid files should be skipped, but otherwise it seems to work https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg01499.html
[12:08] <rbalint1> i think this is the only way of deduplicating copyright files across packages, but it found some other duplicates, too
[12:08] <rbalint1> it there is no obvious problem with that i give a try to  something like "hardlink -n chroot/usr/"  in livecd-rootfs
[12:09]  * cjwatson has no opinion
[12:10] <cjwatson> just be careful to test what ubiquity does, and whether things work well if there are hardlinks in the image but the user has requested partitioning such that they need to be split across multiple partitions, etc.
[12:10] <cjwatson> in fact ubiquity probably won't preserve the hardlinking, which is probably fine
[12:11] <cjwatson> you might also find that it doesn't actually save much useful space; squashfs compression might well already notice the duplication
[12:11] <cjwatson> but anyway, I only have random thoughts
[12:12] <rbalint> cjwatson: yes, the compression will decrease the gains
[12:13] <cjwatson> but will it decrease them or nullify them?
[12:13] <cjwatson> needs data.
[12:13] <cjwatson> if the size gain on images is in practice epsilon then we shouldn't waste time on it at image build time
[12:14] <rbalint> cjwatson: some memory can be saved when squashfs is extracted
[12:14] <cjwatson> *shrug* I'm not going to argue
[12:16] <rbalint> cjwatson: sure, i did not want to argue, just to add something to consider and maybe measure :-)
[12:24] <slashd> For SRU vanguard, Good Monday! Could you please have a look at this UA bug (LP: #1689854) and prioritize it if possible ? The pkg can be found in the Trusty upload queue ==> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=isc-dhcp
[12:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (yakkety-proposed/main) [2:14.0.4-0ubuntu1.2 => 2:14.0.5-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[13:22] <rbalint> cjwatson: squashfs already supports deduplication, but ext4 images may shrink a bit
[13:22] <rbalint> cjwatson: i give it a try and see what the data says
[13:58]  * LocutusOfBorg would appreciate a review of virtualbox-* yakkety queue
[14:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: reprozip [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-4~build1] (no packageset)
[14:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: reprozip [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-4~build1] (no packageset)
[15:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sphinx [source] (zesty-proposed) [1.5.3-1ubuntu0.1]
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sphinx [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.4.8-1ubuntu0.1]
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sphinx [sync] (xenial-proposed) [1.3.6-2ubuntu1.1]
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted strongswan [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [5.3.5-1ubuntu4.2]
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted strongswan [sync] (xenial-proposed) [5.3.5-1ubuntu3.2]
[16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nova [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2:14.0.5-0ubuntu1]
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: borgbackup (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1.0.10-2~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: borgbackup (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.0.7-1 => 1.0.10-2~16.10.1] (no packageset)
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: reprozip [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-4] (no packageset)
[17:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: reprozip [i386] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.0.9-4] (no packageset)
[17:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2:14.0.5-0ubuntu1]
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios3 (trusty-proposed/main) [3.5.1-1ubuntu1.1 => 3.5.1-1ubuntu1.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server) (sync)
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios3 (xenial-proposed/main) [3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu1.1 => 3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu1.2] (ubuntu-server) (sync)
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios3 (yakkety-proposed/main) [3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu3.1 => 3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu3.2] (ubuntu-server) (sync)
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nagios3 (zesty-proposed/main) [3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu5 => 3.5.1.dfsg-2.1ubuntu5.1] (ubuntu-server) (sync)
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-9.3 (trusty-proposed/main) [9.3.16-0ubuntu0.14.04 => 9.3.17-0ubuntu0.14.04] (no packageset) (sync)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-9.5 (xenial-proposed/main) [9.5.6-0ubuntu0.16.04 => 9.5.7-0ubuntu0.16.04] (core)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-9.5 (yakkety-proposed/main) [9.5.6-0ubuntu0.16.10 => 9.5.7-0ubuntu0.16.10] (core)
[17:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: postgresql-9.6 (zesty-proposed/main) [9.6.2-1 => 9.6.3-0ubuntu0.17.04] (core)
[18:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted isc-dhcp [source] (trusty-proposed) [4.2.4-7ubuntu12.9]
[20:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: launchpad-buildd (xenial-proposed/primary) [144]
[20:51] <cjwatson> er what
[20:51] <cjwatson> $ debrelease -S ppa:launchpad/ubuntu/ppa
[20:51] <cjwatson> oh I guess I did both by accident
[20:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected launchpad-buildd [source] (xenial-proposed) [144]
[20:59] <ahasenack> why is mysql-server-5.7 in xenial-updates ahead of artful?
[20:59] <ahasenack>  mysql-server-5.7 | 5.7.18-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> | xenial-updates   | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
[20:59] <ahasenack>  mysql-server-5.7 | 5.7.17-0ubuntu1         | artful           | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
[21:02] <infinity> ahasenack: Because whoever did the security update didn't think to copy it forward.
[21:02]  * infinity copies.
[21:02] <slangasek> ah, a security update, that explains
[21:03] <ahasenack> when a sec update is done, the package is uploaded to both security and updates?
[21:03] <slangasek> yes
[21:03] <slangasek> security updates are always copied to -updates because it better distributes mirror network load
[21:03] <infinity> Which is why the default sources.list lists updates before security.
[21:04] <slangasek> (and because we don't want confusion about SRUs of things that have a newer version in -security but not in -updates)
[21:04] <infinity> So, if your local mirror is lagging, you'll get the update in a timely fashion from -security.  If your local mirror is up to date, you'll get the local copy.
[21:04] <ahasenack> ok
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (zesty-proposed/universe) [3.24.1-0ubuntu1 => 3.24.2-0ubuntu0.1] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, mozilla, ubuntugnome)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (yakkety-proposed/universe) [3.20.4-0ubuntu2 => 3.20.4-0ubuntu3] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, mozilla, ubuntugnome)
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell (xenial-proposed/universe) [3.18.5-0ubuntu0.2 => 3.18.5-0ubuntu0.3] (desktop-extra, edubuntu, mozilla, ubuntugnome)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-dlclark-regexp2 [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.1.4+git20170331.0.902a5ce-1] (no packageset)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: python-django-rules [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.2.1-1] (no packageset)
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-pkg-profile [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [1.2.1-1] (no packageset)
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: petsc4py [s390x] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.7.0-3] (no packageset)
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: petsc4py [ppc64el] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.7.0-3] (no packageset)
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-dlclark-regexp2 [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.1.4+git20170331.0.902a5ce-1]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [ppc64el] (artful-proposed) [3.7.0-3]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-django-rules [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.2.1-1]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted reprozip [i386] (artful-proposed) [1.0.9-4]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted reprozip [i386] (artful-proposed) [1.0.9-4~build1]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-pkg-profile [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.2.1-1]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted reprozip [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.0.9-4]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [s390x] (artful-proposed) [3.7.0-3]
[23:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted reprozip [amd64] (artful-proposed) [1.0.9-4~build1]
[23:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: petsc4py [amd64] (artful-proposed/universe) [3.7.0-3] (no packageset)
[23:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [amd64] (artful-proposed) [3.7.0-3]


[00:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: polari (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.30.0-1 => 3.30.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[00:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted polari [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
[00:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gettext (cosmic-proposed/main) [<IP_ADDRESS>-7 => <IP_ADDRESS>-8] (core) (sync)
[01:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: vlc (bionic-proposed/universe) [3.0.4-1ubuntu0.1 => 3.0.4-1ubuntu0.2] (kubuntu, mozilla)
[05:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (cosmic-proposed/universe) [21 => 23] (lubuntu)
[05:11] <wxl> infinity, vorlon, someone: if you could please review tsimonq2's uploads, that'd be greeat. we have a bunch of little last minute things.. and one new package (trojita)
[16:27] <tsimonq2> Assuming we're on the usual Final Freeze cycle there should be a few more things today.
[16:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: glom (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.30.4-0ubuntu13 => 1.30.4-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: winetricks (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.0+20180815-1 => 0.0+20180815-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glom [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.30.4-1]
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted winetricks [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.0+20180815-1]
[17:40] <wxl> anyone home? :(
[20:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: budgie-desktop-environment (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.10.4 => 0.10.5] (personal-fossfreedom, ubuntu-budgie)
[21:32] <tsimonq2> I guess the Release Team's taking the weekend off.
[21:32] <tsimonq2> Fun.
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-meta [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>.10]
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-9.10]
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-signed [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-9.10]
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gjs [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.54.1-1]
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mozjs60 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [60.2.3-1]
[21:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-discover [source] (cosmic-proposed) [5.13.5-1ubuntu5]
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted calamares-settings-ubuntu [source] (cosmic-proposed) [23]
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nm-tray [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.4.1-0ubuntu1]
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxqt-config [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.13.0-0ubuntu5]
[21:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected calamares-settings-ubuntu [source] (cosmic-proposed) [22]
[21:57] <tsimonq2> Huzzah, thanks to whoever that is. :)
[22:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hplip [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.18.7+dfsg1-2ubuntu2]
[22:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.16]
[22:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.15 => 1.17] (lubuntu)
[22:01] <tsimonq2> :P
[22:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted netplan.io [source] (cosmic-proposed) [0.40.2]
[22:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-openstackclient [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.16.1-0ubuntu1]
[22:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted parted [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.2-21ubuntu1]
[22:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-aws [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-1001.2]
[22:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-meta-aws [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>1.1]
[22:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwin [source] (cosmic-proposed) [4:5.13.5-1ubuntu2]
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.108]
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.02+dfsg1-5ubuntu6]
[22:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.17]
[22:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.13]
[22:09] <acheronuk> ty from me as well ^^ :)
[22:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxqt-globalkeys (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-0ubuntu1 => 0.13.0-0ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
[22:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unattended-upgrades (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.5ubuntu2 => 1.5ubuntu3] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[22:16] <wxl> infinity: if you could get libfm-qt and lxqt-globalkeys done that would be great. i can respin images and confirm allthe uploads we did yesterday did what we needed
[22:18] <tsimonq2> wxl: Just remember that Britney might disagree that you can respin soon after acceptance.
[22:38] <RAOF> Hm. Now is probably not the most polite time to start a library transition.
[22:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.02+dfsg1-5ubuntu6 => 2.02+dfsg1-5ubuntu6] (core)
[22:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-9.10] (core, kernel)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: meta-gnome3 (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:3.22+10 => 1:3.22+11] (no packageset) (sync)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: vala (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.42.1-1 => 0.42.2-1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[23:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted meta-gnome3 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1:3.22+11]
[23:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: jquery-goodies (cosmic-proposed/universe) [12-1 => 12-1.1] (kubuntu) (sync)


 Did that make any sense?
[08:09] <bazhang> he wants ubuntulog on some other channel?
[08:10] <Madpilot> not sure
[08:10] <Madpilot> I think so
[08:11] <bazhang> yep
[08:11] <bazhang> phillw
[08:11] <AlanBell> that whole project makes no sense
[08:13] <AlanBell> hi phillw
[08:13] <Madpilot> some AI project that lost weeks of work because someone said "LOL"?
[08:14] <Madpilot> wut?
[08:14] <phillw> hiyas AlanBell
[08:14] <phillw> Madpilot: sadly, yes
[08:14] <Madpilot> hey phillw - so, what's so AI-destroying about LOL?
[08:15] <AlanBell> lets not get into picking apart the project itself, that is probably not a good use of our time right now
[08:15] <phillw> Madpilot: I have no idea, but the new lab areas are to be hidden, invite only and password protected.
[08:15] <AlanBell> phillw: what channel do you want a logbot in?
[08:17] <phillw> AlanBell: I think they want it in the lab channels as well - so that is why it is vital it is a silent bot, the ubuntu log bot I know is completely silent, but one of supy bot people told that I can give that bot a lobotomy and make that bot totally silent.
[08:17] <AlanBell> phillw: and you have not answered my question
[08:18] <AlanBell> the answer begins with #
[08:19] <phillw> AlanBell: sadly, at present these are ## rooms, which why I doubt I will get the ubuntu log bot, but I have asked none the less, as they are tied to UAIT
[08:20] <AlanBell> ok, so that is the second character of the answer
[08:20] <AlanBell> which is leading towards a "no" I suspect
[08:21] <AlanBell> there are any number of logbots available, or just run an irssi instance logging somewhere public
[08:23] <phillw> The rooms have not yet been created, I've set the first one up as a template, but one of my admin padawans has been tasked with completing them all - he's always nagging me for tasks and their TL and dev leader both know him and have said that they will allow him to get the rest of them set up.
[08:24] <AlanBell> phillw: all you need to put in a logbot request is:
[08:25] <AlanBell> "please can I have a logbot in channel ______________"
[08:25] <AlanBell> and if the channel starts with #ubuntu- then the answer is probably going to be yes
[08:26] <AlanBell> if it starts with anything else the answer is almost certainly going to be no
[08:27] <AlanBell> you have provided a load of justification (that several people independently failed to understand) but no actionable information
[08:27] <phillw> ah well, it was worth a try... looks supy is going to be the one
[08:28] <AlanBell> it might be worth a try, my point is you have not yet made the request itself
[08:29] <phillw> UAIT is ubuntu, they and that team are so closely linked it is impossible to tell them apart.
[08:29] <AlanBell> the decision isn't up to me, I am just trying to help you formulate a sane request
[08:30]  * AlanBell recalls no UAIT sessions at UDS
[08:30] <phillw> AlanBell: I have made the request, I made it last night to the ubuntuIRCcouncil, it's most likely held in the moderation queue.
[08:31] <AlanBell> phillw: you mean this one? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2011-February/001239.html
[08:31] <phillw> AlanBell: yes
[08:32] <AlanBell> that is why I asked you in here
[08:32] <AlanBell> that isn't just the council list
[08:32] <AlanBell> there is no actionable request in that email
[08:33] <phillw> AlanBell: it was to ask if they would agree, in principle to it - or I should look elsewhere for a logging bot.
[08:34] <phillw> I'm just a poor admin guy who gets stuff 'dropped' on him in the middle of a meeting!
[08:37] <phillw> but evidently the supy bot (i can never remember its name) can be given a lobotomy and be silent.
[08:37] <AlanBell> sure, it is just python
[08:37] <AlanBell> you can +q it in the channel to be sure
[08:39] <phillw> (05:16:14) nanotube: hey... to answer your question on #supybot. yes it can. :)
[08:39] <phillw> (05:16:23) nanotube: see "help lobotomy add"
[08:41] <phillw> I was digging around, so if they cannot have the ubuntu log bot (which I doubted would be approved) I ensured I had a plan 'B' :)
[08:44] <phillw> the devs do dev stuff, us admin people do admin :)
[08:45] <popey> phillw: i log a channel by having an instance of muh running on a machine. it just sits there silently logging to a file.
[08:45] <popey> ukstat is the "bot" in question, not really a bot though
[08:47] <phillw> popey: the ONLY thing I am not allowed on my server is IRC stuff, if it were, life would be so much easier for me :)
[08:50] <phillw> host lubuntu iso images?... sure no problem.. host multiple forums?... sure, no problem.... IRC stuff?...... not a snowflake in hells chance
[12:10] <Legendario> anyone from ubuntu-irc team?
[12:17] <Legendario> anyone from ubuntu-irc team?
[12:28] <jussi> Legendario: many... what do you need?
[12:29] <Legendario> jussi, i have asked my irc cloak for ubuntu members, but it seems i haven't receved yet
[12:29] <jussi> Legendario: launchpad link please?
[12:30] <jussi> Legendario: you need the irc council ;) (which I am on) ;)
[12:31] <jussi> Legendario: Although I havent seen you asking in scrollback - did you ask here?
[12:31] <Legendario> jussi, yes. guess like a week ago: https://launchpad.net/~kemelzaidan
[12:32] <artfwo> jussi: while you're at it, could you give a cloak for me as well? https://launchpad.net/~artfwo
[12:35] <jussi> Staff please cloak Legendario with ubuntu/member cloak
[12:36] <jussi> Staff please cloak artfwo with ubuntu/member cloak
[12:37] <jussi> niko: VorTechS mquin tomaw
[12:37] <jussi> (ubuntu/member/$acccountname please)
[12:37] <artfwo> thanks!
[12:37] <Legendario> jussi, is that all?
[12:37] <niko> jussi: for Legendario ?
[12:38] <jussi> niko: for both of them..
[12:38] <jussi> thanks niko
[12:38] <niko> congrats Legendario, artfwo
[12:39] <Legendario> thanks a lot guys :-)
[12:39] <artfwo> thanks!
[15:50] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-beginners-team, charlie-tca said: !factoidthatisbroken is <reply> New stuff here!
[15:50] <charlie-tca> ignore that please
[15:51] <ubot2> In #ubuntu-beginners-team, seidos said: ubot2: !recommended is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecommendedHardware
[16:05] <Tm_T> !recommended
[16:05] <Tm_T> should prolly be recommendedhw
[16:05] <Tm_T> or something
[17:36] <jussi> Tm_T: perhaps somehting added to !hardware
[17:36] <jussi> !hardware
[18:00] <Tm_T> that


[20:47] <agah> selam
 Is there a way to preview the libreoffice and pdf files in the pcmanfm icons?
[21:32] <wxl> @N0um3n0 does this help re: LO? https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/61938/how-do-i-turn-on-thumbnail-previews-in-libreoffice-writer/
[21:34] <wxl> more generally https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_manager_functionality#Use_PCManFM_to_get_thumbnails_for_other_file_types
 @wxl [<wxl> @N0um3n0 does this help re: LO? https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/61 …], Thanks !!!! Is for a portuguese group
[21:35] <wxl> also https://specifications.freedesktop.org/thumbnail-spec/thumbnail-spec-latest.html
[21:35] <wxl> here's some discussion with pdf and djvu in pcmanfm-qt https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1080
[21:36] <wxl> tl;dr the filemanager (this is true with other filemanagers) doesn't provide the thumbnails, but it depends upon a program to generate them
[21:38] <wxl> if there are thumbnailers missing with default software, we should probably add them or at least provide good instructions
 Thanks @wxl23