[00:00] <bascule> Tarin: /j #some-non-existant-channel <-- like that?
[00:00] <MaTiAz> yeah
[00:00] <penos> this is so boring
[00:01] <sandeep> hey I have a question if you dont mind
[00:01] <penos> i mean...
[00:01] <penos> there are many difference ways to think
[00:01] <fizzz> been trying to turn off x server and login as root but not haveing any luck any ideas ?
[00:02] <penos> evil people like hitler or ghengis khan always sought to harm innocent people
[00:02] <penos> but person like mother teresa wanted to help weak people
[00:02] <bascule> !root | fizzz
[00:02] <ubotu> fizzz: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[00:02] <penos> you know what i mean?
[00:02] <sandeep> My internet in kubuntu has been running really really snail slow, when i go through windows, it works fine, but then I go back to kubuntu and everything is slow again, anyone know what the problem is?
[00:02] <penos> there are so many different types of people in this world
[00:02] <sandeep> Penos: only 2
[00:03] <sandeep> noobs and pros
[00:03] <fizzz> well i have tried that but it keeps saying that i am running in x server
[00:03] <bascule> penos: off topic sure, but reflect on this, ghandi and hitler wlaked the earth at the same tome .. :)
[00:03] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  kill the kdm service.
[00:03] <penos> bascule: who is ghandi?
[00:03] <Dr_willis> then as root use startx, of course I cant think of any reason you NEED to run X as root..
[00:04] <fizzz> can i msg u dr w ?
[00:04] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  i may be gone at any time.. so its best to not bother. :)
[00:04] <sandeep> penos: ,,,, srsly? lol :p Ghandi was one the best pasificts in the world, he helped india reach its independence
[00:04] <bascule> penos: *gasp* wikipedia will tell you, Einstein said "In years to come few will believe that such a one as this once walked the earth uin flesh and blood'
[00:05] <fizzz> well i tried the sudo command and it keeps saying not root when i was in the window
[00:05] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  thats about as clear as 10 day old coffee.
[00:05] <penos> this is gay
[00:05] <sandeep> ?
[00:05] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  start over.. what ARE you trying to do exactly?
[00:06] <fizzz> i am trying to install my nvidia drivers
[00:06] <LjL> !language | muesli_`
[00:06] <ubotu> muesli_`: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:06] <sandeep> what?
[00:06] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  you have tried using the restricted-manager tool Like the !nvidia wiki page suggests?
[00:06] <fizzz>  i goto terminal and type sudo sh NVIDIA-driver.run
[00:07] <sandeep> or you can directly use the Adept package installer fizzz
[00:07] <muesli_`> i mean...
[00:07] <muesli_`> people build up reputation
[00:07] <Dr_willis> There should be no need to use the ones from nvidias web site.,  Unless you are having some odd problems.
[00:07] <sandeep> yea
[00:07] <muesli_`> they build up mass of fortune for themselves
[00:07] <sandeep> they have a tendency to be confusing
[00:07] <muesli_`> what's the point?
[00:07]  * _Angelus_ gone sleepin'
[00:07] <muesli_`> i mean...
[00:07] <muesli_`> bill gates is so rich
[00:07] <muesli_`> ghandi is so poor
[00:08] <muesli_`> and i'm so so so poor
[00:08] <muesli_`> you know
[00:08] <muesli_`> why
[00:08] <Dr_willis> because you press enter too much?
[00:08] <NickPresta> muesli_`, you can talk about politics and such in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:08] <sandeep> Penos: the point of becoming rich, like gates, is to profit off of helping others. Thats basically the captitalists ideology ..
[00:08] <Tarin> bascule: no that is just to create a channel i need an entire server like dsm.freenode.net
[00:08] <muesli_`> sandeep: i want to help people
[00:09] <muesli_`> father God
[00:09] <muesli_`> help me to help people
[00:09] <muesli_`> help me to help people
[00:09] <bascule> Tarin: not if you are reged you don't
[00:09] <muesli_`> help me to help people
[00:09] <muesli_`> amen
[00:09] <sandeep> well
[00:09] <caspercasper> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ? ;D fizzz?
[00:09] <Tarin> bascule: what do you mean reged?
[00:09] <sandeep> then listen to the translated words of ghandi
[00:09] <Dr_willis> Go write some wiki docs.   that will help.
[00:09] <bascule> Tarin: /j #bascule, you'll see me there and opped
[00:09] <sandeep> Be the change you wish to see in the world first of all
[00:09] <muesli_`> sandeep: i want to help people
[00:10] <NickPresta> !ot
[00:10] <bascule> Tarin: a registered nick
[00:10] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:10] <sandeep> Penos: Help yourself first
[00:10] <muesli_`> sandeep: how?
[00:10] <fizzz> should i be n root when i type that ?
[00:10] <sandeep> Penos: I dunno lol, you have to figure that you
[00:11] <stdin> penos: don't troll
[00:11] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | fizzz
[00:11] <ubotu> fizzz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[00:11] <penos> i mean
[00:11] <penos> ...
[00:11] <penos> what's the point of exploiting other people?
[00:11] <fizzz> Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[00:11] <fizzz> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[00:11] <penos> i want to help people not exploit
[00:11] <sandeep> there isnt
[00:12] <sandeep> but do you think you can really go and save each and every single person?
[00:12] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  you are using the latest release? gutsy? if so you may need to 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' befor instralling the nvidia packages
[00:12] <NickPresta> !tell sandeep about ot
[00:13] <sandeep> rgr sorry about that nick
[00:13] <cishpix> can I install kubuntu-kde4.0-i386.iso liveCd to my HD
[00:13] <wesley> can you run on asus eee pc kde4?
[00:13] <NickPresta> cishpix, there is an install option, yes. I haven't tried it but I would assume it works. You can ask for specific KDE 4.0 help in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:14] <fizzz> anyway to tell what number i have ?
[00:14] <NickPresta> fizzz, what number you have what?
[00:14] <cishpix> NickPresta: thanks for ur answer
[00:15] <fizzz> well i downloaded the kubuntu not sure what one it was under 700 mb i think
[00:15] <Dr_willis> lsb_release -a    shows the version of your syste,
[00:15] <fizzz> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[00:15] <fizzz> Release:        7.04
[00:15] <fizzz> Codename:       feisty
[00:15] <SSJ_GZ> wesley: http://www.jespersaur.com/drupal/node/36
[00:15] <sandeep> My internet in kubuntu has been running really really snail slow. When i go through windows, it works fine, but then when I go back to kubuntu everything is slow again, anyone know what the problem is?
[00:16] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  i would suggest going and getting the latest release 'gusty' it makes things a lot easier.
[00:16] <fizzz> well is that still kubuntu ?
[00:17] <NickPresta> sandeep, you can try disabling IPv6. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[00:17] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  yes it is.
[00:18] <NickPresta> fizzz, to read more about Gutsy and perhaps reasons why you should upgrade, check out !gutsy
[00:18] <fizzz> is it the 7.10 ?
[00:18] <sandeep> Nick, I tried that and it didnt help
[00:18] <bascule> !aptfix | Tarin
[00:18] <ubotu> Tarin: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:18] <muesli> stdin: why did you just ban me?
[00:19] <muesli> (temporarily)
[00:19] <sandeep> muesli: offtopic chatting in a support room
[00:19] <NickPresta> sandeep, hmm. I am out of ideas then. Perhaps it would be best to see if you can narrow down the problem. Are speeds slow when using just Konqueror/Firefox/etc? What about ping'ing? Try traceroute to see where, if any, hold ups are. etc
[00:19] <muesli> sandeep: errr, i didn't say a thing in hours
[00:19] <sandeep> Nick rgr that I'll see what happens
[00:19] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[00:19] <stdin> muesli, it was a mute, and was meant to catch another user with an (extremely) similar nick
[00:19] <muesli> oh k :)
[00:19] <muesli> no worries then :)
[00:20] <sandeep> yea he was in here a couple of minutes ago ..
[00:20] <bascule> sandeep:  wget 'http://www.1clickcd.com/upload_files/mixupload/DJ_Jespar_-_A_New_Beginning_(12-08-2005)-uploaded-November-02-2005_1.16_pm.mp3' as atester, that place has loads of bandwidth
[00:20] <sandeep> basule: in the terminal right?
[00:21] <bascule> sandeep: sure
[00:21] <NickPresta> sandeep, yes
[00:21] <blizzzek> gn8
[00:21]  * arriesp bye
[00:22]  * bascule suspects MTU settings cause the speed issue for sandeep
[00:22] <sandeep> mtu settings?
[00:22] <sandeep> (right now it is dling at around 312.6 kb/s )
[00:23] <bascule> sandeep: well that is good speed
[00:24] <sandeep> Bascule: aye it is, but it takes more then 20 seconds just to load something like digg.com in firefox and konqueror
[00:24] <wesley> 4 gb is that enough for linux?
[00:24] <biovore> depends what your doing with it..
[00:25] <wesley> not much i want to buy a eee pv maby
[00:26] <bascule> sandeep: is it a wireless connection with weak signal?
[00:26] <biovore> well kde has problems with eee because of the resolution of the screen..
[00:26] <bascule> weak being < %60
[00:26] <sandeep> bascule: nope, everything is wired
[00:26] <bascule> k
[00:26] <dorkface> Is gparted an ubuntu tool, or a gnome tool?
[00:26] <bascule> :-/
[00:26] <Dr_willis> I did see some site that told how to get higher res on the eee.
[00:26] <wesley> yes something like that i though already but you can set a tft on it
[00:27] <bascule> dorkface: well it's a gnu toll afaik
[00:27] <dorkface> I.E. will I be able to use gparted with kde
[00:27] <bascule> tool not toll sorry :)
[00:27] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/01/07/getting-800x480-on-the-eeepc/
[00:27] <Dr_willis> You can install gparted on a kde system if you want
[00:27] <dorkface> cool
[00:27] <bascule> dorkface: all apps are interchangable these days (nice nick)
[00:27] <dorkface> :)
[00:27] <Dr_willis> !info qtparted
[00:27] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu12 (gutsy), package size 206 kB, installed size 720 kB
[00:27] <Dr_willis> or use qtparted
[00:27] <dorkface> *cough* superkaramba *cough*
[00:28] <wesley> notebooks are expensive and eee pc got only look
[00:28] <bascule> the eee pc was a big moment for me, first high street retail machine running linux
[00:28] <sandeep> which version of the eeepc has the touchscreen?
[00:29] <biovore> The newest Eee PC has 1024 resolution
[00:29] <Dr_willis> i dident think any of ht eeee's has a touchscreen
[00:29] <biovore> non have touch I don't think.. its a user bod..
[00:29] <Dr_willis> Unless they came out with new ones recently
[00:29] <sandeep> probably was a mod
[00:29] <wesley> it seems a hit the eee pc yeah
[00:29] <biovore> see youtube "eee touchscreen"  theres a vid on how to do it..
[00:30] <sandeep> neat
[00:30] <fizzz> hey dr my cpu being a amd 64  it should run linux ok right ?
[00:30] <sandeep> too bad my internets slow right now lol
[00:30] <ubuntu_> ola
[00:30] <biovore> fizzz: yup..
[00:30] <NickPresta> !es | ubuntu_
[00:30] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[00:30] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  you proberly want to use the 32bit versions of kubuntu, not the 64bit versions.
[00:30] <biovore> fizzz: there is 32bit linux (works on 64bit machines was well) and 64bit linux
[00:31] <fizzz> so i dont want the one for the amd 64 ?
[00:31] <sandeep> yeppers\
[00:31] <sandeep> wait
[00:31] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  correct.. STAY with the normal 32bit version
[00:31] <biovore> extra complications when it comes to propritary stuff on 64bit.. (things like flash)
[00:31] <sandeep> you do
[00:31] <sandeep> wait nvm srry lol
[00:31] <level1> Hi, I want to make some custom modifications to my X keymap... all the documentation online refers to files that I can't find on my computer, such as files that end in .kmap... where are these files in ubuntu?
[00:31] <Dr_willis> theres no real need for you to use the 64bit version
[00:31] <bascule> biovore: flash is broken anyway :)
[00:33] <level1> bascule: you can still use the old version in konqueror
[00:33] <fizzz> so my pc wont run the 64 bit one ?
[00:33] <sandeep> it would
[00:33] <sandeep> but dont do it
[00:34] <sandeep> its too much of a pain
[00:34] <sandeep> stick with the 32bit
[00:34] <fizzz> oic
[00:34] <bascule> level1: where might I find the old version?
[00:34] <sandeep> it will be just as good
[00:34] <level1> bascule: someone described a method to use kmplayer as a workaround, but it won't work with gutsy's mplayer
[00:34] <level1> bascule: online somewhere, I guess
[00:34] <bascule> :)
[00:34] <level1> does ubuntu keep packages of archives?
[00:34] <bascule> level1: I have flash working in firefox, I just copie libflashplayer.so to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[00:35] <fizzz> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  ?
[00:35] <sandeep> fizz do u want ubuntu or kubuntu? lol
[00:35] <Dr_willis> fizzz,  thats the alternative isntaller cd.. it dosent have  nice desktop/gui installer. Thats the one i tend to use.
[00:35] <bascule> crazy thing is I tried on an Ubuntu machine today, didn't work
[00:35] <Dr_willis> plus thats UUBNTU not Kubuntu :)
[00:40] <sandeep> O_o
[00:40] <sandeep> noone has said a word
[00:40] <sandeep> in the last 5 minutes lol
[00:40] <word> :o
[00:40] <sandeep> roflmao
[00:41] <gleesond> so I don't really understand the last line on the install kde4 page on kubuntu.org: install xserver-xephyr     * and run Xephyr :1 then  and run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[00:41] <gleesond> where do I run  Xephyr :1
[00:41] <gleesond> in the terminal?
[00:42] <Dr_willis> That will launch a kde4 session inside its own window.
[00:42] <gleesond> should I put in rc.local
[00:42] <Dr_willis> you DONT do it in rc.local
[00:42] <Dr_willis> you can log out of KDE and there should also be a kde4 entry in the KDM sessions menu.
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Or you can test out kde4 in its own window
[00:42] <gleesond> oh ok
[00:42] <Dr_willis> Then you will get sick of kde4 and remove it in 4 days... :P
[00:43] <gleesond> is it not very stable for everyone else?
[00:43] <Dr_willis> Its still very much a work in progress
[00:43] <gleesond> ah
[00:43] <sandeep> brb
[00:43] <XceII> no good Dr_willis?
[00:43] <dorkface> Has there been talk of speech recognition programs in kde for the near future?
[00:43] <gleesond> it looks pretty. I'll prolly move to kde4 once it gets more stable
[00:44] <Dr_willis> XceII,  its a work in progress with a lot of rough edges.
[00:44] <XceII> k
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Eventually it will get there.
[00:44] <XceII> ill stick with what i have.
[00:44] <bascule> !kde4
[00:44] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[00:44] <Dr_willis> heh - they finially moved all the kde4 chat to another room! Yeaaaaa!~
[00:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:47] <bascule> Dr_willis: heh, think I'll drop by :)
[00:47] <bascule> It's rather empty, probably needs to go in the topic
[00:48] <bascule>  #kubuntu-kde4: Total of 21 nicks
[00:48] <sandeep123> I dunno
[00:48] <sandeep123> kd4
[00:48] <sandeep123> really
[00:48] <sandeep123> I wasnt that amazed ...
[00:49] <stdin> bascule: you don't read the topic
[00:49] <bascule> it really is a dev platform, so things can get all working nice
[00:49] <sandeep123> yea
[00:49] <sandeep123> but they made it too much like windows vista
[00:49] <bascule> stdin: woops, oh yeah
[00:49] <sandeep123> yea
[00:49]  * bascule blushes
[00:49] <sandeep123> lol
[00:50]  * bascule tries kde4, brb
[01:00] <limac> hey
[01:01] <limac> I wan trying to launch chatzilla but it was loading the application with the bouncing icon but chatzilla never showed up, what's up?
[01:01] <limac> *was
[01:04] <zorglu_> q. on gutsy, when you click on a .deb on the web thru firefox or konqueror. does it propose you to install the .deb ? like launching gdebi or similar ? or the user need to do dpkg -i by hand once the package is download ?
[01:04] <kaxi> does kubuntu use splashy or usplash in the latest version?
[01:05] <limac> hello? :P
[01:06] <limac> it happens with other apps too
[01:06] <zorglu_> i think the helpers all went to bed :)
[01:06] <zorglu_> help us, we are in need :)
[01:07] <Odd-rationale> I'm more familiar with gnome, but what's up?
[01:07] <zorglu_> q. on gutsy, when you click on a .deb on the web thru firefox or konqueror. does it propose you to install the .deb ? like launching gdebi or similar ? or the user need to do dpkg -i by hand once the package is download ?
[01:08] <Odd-rationale> zorglu_: You can do either one.
[01:08] <zorglu_> Odd-rationale: ok what is the default behaviour ?
[01:08] <zorglu_> Odd-rationale: the one after the install by a plain user
[01:09] <zorglu_> in fact the question is the about the configuration of kubuntu/ubuntu in the case the user click on a .deb on the web
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> zorglu_: When you click on a .deb, a dialouge should come up asking whether you want to open (with gdebi) or save the file.
[01:09] <zorglu_> Odd-rationale: 'should' ?
[01:09] <zorglu_> does it do it or not :)
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> zorglu_: It always did for me. :)
[01:10] <zorglu_> Odd-rationale: ah that's was the asnwer i was looking for :)
[01:10] <zorglu_> Odd-rationale: thanks
[01:10] <Odd-rationale> zorglu_: np
[01:12] <articpenguin3800> whats more stable kde4 gutsy of kde4 hardy?
[01:12] <level1_> Hi, I changed some of the touchpad configurations in using xorg.conf.  I didn't know the configurations would carry over into my windows install, and now windows doesn't have scrolling
[01:13] <Odd-rationale> level1_: That is strange. Have you tried rebooting?
[01:13] <level1_> Odd-rationale: yes
[01:14] <level1_> Odd-rationale: its in my MS Windows install, its on a different partition
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> level1_: So you are dual booting?
[01:14] <level1_> yes
[01:14] <Odd-rationale> I have no idea how that could happen!
[01:15] <Odd-rationale> It used to work?
[01:15] <NickPresta> articpenguin3800, I think they use the same packages. You could ask in #kubuntu-kde4 or #ubuntu+1
[01:17] <level1_> Odd-rationale: it stopped working when we changed some of the configurations on linux, breifly after we installed
[01:18] <Odd-rationale> level1_: I really don't know what happened. Sorry. :(
[01:23] <curves79lady> Hello
[01:23] <NickPresta> hi, curves79lady
[01:23] <curves79lady> Hi
[01:28] <Odd-rationale> How do you start applications on startup in KDE? (the equivilent to System -> Pref -> Sessions in GNOME)
[01:29] <john_> bah!
[01:29] <[ka]killer> i f**ked up xorg AGAIN!
[01:30] <bmk789> so much for bulletproof
[01:30] <[ka]killer> is there anyway i can edit the xorg.conf file with out kdm running?
[01:31] <bmk789> [ka]killer: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[01:31] <Odd-rationale> [ka]killer: Did you back it up?
[01:31] <[ka]killer> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf~ /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:31] <crafty_> how do I add a new DVD writer to dapper drake?
[01:32] <bmk789> crafty_: as in?
[01:32] <crafty_> craftycorner
[01:32] <bmk789> crafty_: most hardware like that should be plug and play
[01:32] <bmk789> just try using it
[01:33] <[ka]killer> how do i save in nano
[01:33] <crafty_> do I put a DVD in it before reboot?
[01:33] <bmk789> [ka]killer: ctrl+x
[01:33] <crafty_> because I had to unplug power to get dapper to start up
[01:33] <bmk789> crafty_: you can, are you trying to boot the dvd?
[01:33] <k4ever> hi all
[01:33] <crafty_> no
[01:33] <bmk789> just put it in whenever then
[01:34] <[ka]killer> when i restart kdm i just get a _ flashign in the top left corner
[01:34] <bmk789> wait
[01:34] <crafty_> comp still thinks it's using the old dvd
[01:34] <bmk789> crafty_: sure the IDE ribbon the the right way and jumpers set correctly and stuff?
[01:34] <crafty_> yes, it is
[01:34] <bmk789> [ka]killer: that means its not working
[01:34] <k4ever> anyone else out there using kde4 and can't create files or folders with dolphin-kde4 or konqueror-kde4?
[01:34] <[ka]killer> -_- think i couldnt figuter that out for myself?
[01:35] <kezef> hey all
[01:35] <bmk789> k4ever: #kubuntu-kde4
[01:35] <kezef> hey anyone know a repository for kde themes
[01:35] <Odd-rationale> kde-look.org
[01:35] <k4ever> wow there is an irc page for it all ready, thanks!
[01:35] <[ka]killer> got it
[01:36] <[ka]killer> had re-commented the endsection by mistake
[01:42] <[ka]killer> got it working
[01:42] <[ka]killer> now
[01:42] <[ka]killer> while xorg is working
[01:42] <crafty__> when I connect power to the new DVD writer, my boot up doesn't get past the root file system
[01:42] <[ka]killer> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf~
[01:42] <[ka]killer> humm
[01:43] <[ka]killer> make sure its not trying to boot from it in bios
[01:43] <[ka]killer> thats what happoned with my usb dvd drive
[01:43] <crafty__> hwo
[01:43] <crafty__> how
[01:43] <[ka]killer> if i left it plugged in during boot it tried to boot from it
[01:43] <[ka]killer> f11 is generally bios settings is it not?
[01:43] <[ka]killer> or what ever it is -_- it says it on the bios loading screen
[01:43] <articpenguin3800> if i use gnome will there be a degrade in performance
[01:44] <crafty__> it's not safe to plug in power while the computer is powered up is it?
[01:44] <[ka]killer> gnome is verry good with performance on low end systems
[01:44] <[ka]killer> crafty__, i wouldnt reccomend that
[01:45] <crafty__> thought not
[01:45] <[ka]killer> kde on the other hand is a little more resource heavy
[01:47] <crafty__> how is this fixed?  do I delete this drive then reinstall it?
[01:47] <stdin> [ka]killer: got stats to back that up?
[01:47] <[ka]killer> make sure in the bios that it is not trying to boot from it
[01:47] <[ka]killer> stdin: personal experiance
[01:47] <[ka]killer> gnome runs perfectly fine on my brothers crappy ass dell, and kde was slowing it down like f**k
 talking to me?
[01:47] <[ka]killer> yes the first one anyway
[01:48] <stdin> [ka]killer: I've found kde to be lighter than gnome, even ran it fine on a P1
[01:48] <[ka]killer> then it may just be my crappy ass brothers crappy ass dell
[01:48] <[ka]killer> the cpu is a bit f**ked up >.>
[01:48] <[ka]killer> long story involving a heat sink and thermal paste that was more like glue
[01:51] <T3> hey
[01:51] <T3> i'm looking for the package that contains 'spawn' command
[01:51] <NickPresta> hi, T3
[01:51] <T3> any idea?
[01:52] <NickPresta> spawn..would that be the inetd-like daemon?
[01:53] <T3> spawn is the command that creates a fork
[01:53] <T3> a fork of process
[01:53] <T3> create a child process in a multitasking operating system
[01:58] <NickPresta> T3, hmm. Google isn't returning anything meaningful. Is it possible `spawn` is apart of a utilities package?
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> How do I get things to start up on start up in KDE?
[01:59] <mrbrdo> hello
[01:59] <T3> NickPresta: I really don't know.. I've never used it before.. looking at google too, without success
[01:59] <mrbrdo> my Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) is not working, ifconfig -a doesn't show it
[01:59] <mrbrdo> using 7.10 with kde4
[01:59] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, easiest way is to add the application (or sym-link the application) to ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:59] <NickPresta> mrbrdo, if you think this is a KDE 4.0 issue, head to #kubuntu-kde4
[01:59] <T3> mrbrdo: lspci returns what?
[02:00] <mrbrdo> what i just said
[02:00] <mrbrdo> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[02:00] <stdin> mrbrdo: you probably want to install knetworkmanager and use it
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> NickPresta: Can I put a custom script there, too?
[02:00] <mrbrdo> 10:00.0 Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02) actually
[02:00] <mrbrdo> stdin i can't without internet!
[02:00] <mrbrdo> and don't you think i need drivers first, or something
[02:00] <NickPresta> Odd-rationale, yep.
[02:00] <stdin> mrbrdo: then you need a kde3 install
[02:00] <mrbrdo> why?
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> NickPresta: Thanks!
[02:01] <T3> mrbrdo: knetworkmanager comes with kubuntu..
[02:01] <stdin> mrbrdo: no, intel have free drivers, included. but unless you know the command line tools to configure the device, you need knetworkmanager (kde3)
[02:01] <T3> you don't need to install..
[02:01] <mrbrdo> actually that's not true :)
[02:01] <mrbrdo> The program 'knetworkmanager' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: ...
[02:02] <mrbrdo> and, IFCONFIG -A DOES NOT show anything but eth0 and lo0
[02:02] <mrbrdo> it should even if i haven't configured anything yet
[02:02] <T3> ifconfig ath0 up
[02:02] <mrbrdo> no such device
[02:02] <mrbrdo> same for eth1
[02:02] <T3> hmm
[02:02] <stdin> mrbrdo: for that device it is
[02:02] <mrbrdo> ifconfig -a shows all devices you know ;)
[02:02] <T3> i guess you will need to check your kernel set up
[02:02] <stdin> mrbrdo: modinfo iwl3945: license:        GPL
[02:03] <mrbrdo> i just did a clean install
[02:03] <mrbrdo> isn't it ipw3945
[02:03] <T3> i know this a kind of deep work, but..
[02:03] <stdin> description:    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG/BG Network Connection driver for Linux
[02:04] <mrbrdo> lol loading that module worked
[02:04] <mrbrdo> but that's kinda weird tho
[02:04] <mrbrdo> i had ipw3945 loaded
[02:04] <mrbrdo> and it didn't work.. isn't that weird? what's the difference between these two
[02:04] <stdin> mrbrdo: make sure to add that module to your /etc/modules then
[02:04] <mrbrdo> i've got wlan0 and wmaster0 that's correct right?
[02:04] <stdin> I don't know, I have an atheros
[02:05] <T3> yeah.. me too
[02:05] <mrbrdo> i do too but it doesn't fit into my new notebook :P
[02:05] <T3> mrbrdo: but all you need to do is set it up with your wireless configuration
[02:05] <mrbrdo> has some weird cardbus
[02:05] <mrbrdo> let's see if i can still work with iwconfig :P
[02:07] <mrbrdo> what's the format for inputting the key anyone knows?
[02:07] <mrbrdo> tried e54e5441 which is my key in hex but that didn't work :P
[02:08] <mrbrdo> nvm wrong key i think :D
[02:09] <MGalaxy> what can be the reason of this error at the beginning of a program "demuxer error: cannot peek"
[02:09] <mrbrdo> yay it worked
[02:09] <mrbrdo> thx for the help
[02:09] <mrbrdo> stdin how can i blacklist ipw3945
[02:09] <stdin> !blacklist
[02:09] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[02:09] <mrbrdo> ty
[02:09] <T3> NickPresta: http://linux.die.net/man/8/spawn
[02:09] <T3> this one
[02:10] <T3> NickPresta: tip: it didn't came with postfix
[02:10] <T3> already tested
[02:10] <mrbrdo> lol
[02:10] <mrbrdo> i don't even have nano installed
[02:10] <mrbrdo> wtf :P
[02:10] <stdin> T3: /usr/lib/postfix/spawn ?
[02:11] <T3> yeah! thanx
[02:12] <mrbrdo> hm that's weird i don't have graphical boot either
[02:13] <mrbrdo> any idea what to apt-get for that?
[02:13] <T3> mrbrdo: what do you mean by graphical boot?
[02:13] <T3> do you have kde installed, man?
[02:13] <mrbrdo> like windows or something
[02:13] <mrbrdo> yes
[02:13] <mrbrdo> kde4
[02:13] <mrbrdo> i mean that boot during the init stages
[02:13] <mrbrdo> right after grub
[02:14] <mrbrdo> before kdm
[02:14] <T3> hm.. k
[02:14] <T3> all text mode?
[02:14] <mrbrdo> yes until kdm
[02:14] <chris12349> I'm looking  for amarok 2, are there debs available?
[02:16] <stdin> chris12349: no, it's not even in the beta stages yet
[02:17] <stdin> mrbrdo: because the kde4 cd doesn't really install anything but kde4, try installing "ubuntu-minimal" and "ubuntu-standard"
[02:17] <mrbrdo> is that for kubuntu too?
[02:17] <chris12349> stdin: :)  oops! I though I saw screenshots thanks!
[02:17] <mrbrdo> i hope it won't install gnome
[02:18] <stdin> mrbrdo: -minimal and -standard install no GUI items
[02:18] <mrbrdo> ok cool i'll do that
[02:19] <mrbrdo> stdin btw thanks for that i was wondering where all the std apps had gone :)
[02:21] <Odd-rationale> Can I play last.fm in amarok?
[02:21] <lextul> yes
[02:22] <Odd-rationale> Or do you need to pay for that account?
[02:27] <boggystudios> One of my friends messed with the Knetworkmanager settings on my other laptop and it is stuck on manual now.    In Gutsy, is there a way to get Konqueror back as the default file manager?   That did the trick. ;)
[02:31] <mrbrdo> i'm getting these errors all the time when i run knetowrkmanager: DCOPClient::attachInternal. Attach failed Could not open network socket
[02:31] <mrbrdo> when it's starting and so
[02:32] <mot_> oh shit
[02:32] <mot_> why would "rm -rf *(2)*" remove *everything* from the desktop?
[02:33] <mrbrdo> i did that once too
[02:33] <mot_> is there a way to get it back?
[02:33] <mot_> i have an entire application package there
[02:33] <mot_> ...i can't lose that
[02:33] <Crell> NexaMac: It wouldn't be so bad if it had actual tabs.  Any idea how to get rid of it?
[02:33] <mrbrdo> don't think u can
[02:33] <mot_> it's almost a hundred pages.
[02:33] <Dr_willis> bash does not do wildcards like dos.. it does regular expressions
[02:33] <mot_> okay well
[02:33] <Dr_willis> echo  *(2)*
[02:34] <Dr_willis> would show what would of been removed.
[02:34] <mot_> it prints *(2)*
[02:34] <mixed> anyone ever had problems connecting to online games with QUAKE????
[02:34] <mot_> is there any way to get it back?
[02:34] <mrbrdo> hm KNotify4 keeps crashing now that i removed interfaces
[02:34] <mrbrdo> lol
[02:34] <Dr_willis> No it dosent print *(2)* here.. of course you have no files now for it to match
[02:34] <mot_> is it possible to get them back?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> undeleteing from a rm.. Hmm what filesystem?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> !undelete
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about undelete - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:35] <mot_> ext3
[02:35] <mot_> sorry ext2
[02:35] <mrbrdo> i know it's possible to some extent on windows
[02:35] <mixed> !quake
[02:35] <Dr_willis> You might be out of luck. Theres some undelete from ext2/3 guides out. but ive never done it.
[02:35] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under Ubuntu - See http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[02:35] <mrbrdo> !knotify
[02:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knotify - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <mixed> !quake 3
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake 3 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <mixed> !quake III
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake iii - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Theres several variantes of quake out also .
[02:36] <Dr_willis> !games
[02:36] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[02:37] <boggystudios> thanks Odd-rationale
[02:37] <Odd-rationale> boggystudios: How did you fix it? Did you just replace the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[02:38] <mrbrdo> i deleted that file
[02:38] <mrbrdo> and knotify4 keeps crashing now
[02:38] <mrbrdo> i'm just gonna reinstall :P
[02:38] <Odd-rationale> mrbrdo: Before you do that, try deleting every thing in /etc/network/
[02:38] <mrbrdo> everything?
[02:38] <MGalaxy> when I run LDOCE 2005 @ kubuntu 7.10 I get this error message, http://phpfi.com/289836 ,any solution?
[02:38] <mrbrdo> i'll try, for you :)
[02:39] <boggystudios> Odd-rationale: I tried the interfaces file so now I am going to read the rest of the file ;)
[02:39] <Odd-rationale> mrbrdo: Yes everything.
[02:39] <Odd-rationale> but don't delete the folder itself
[02:40] <mrbrdo> yeah got it, let's see
[02:40] <mixed> thank you, Dr_Willis
[02:40] <mrbrdo> knotify still crashing
[02:41] <Odd-rationale> mrbrdo: OK you can reinstall now...
[02:42] <mrbrdo> :)
[02:42] <mrbrdo> i'm gonna have to do the same steps tho
[02:42] <mrbrdo> to connect i'll have to iwconfig
[02:42] <mrbrdo> and then install knetworkmanager
[02:42] <mrbrdo> but then it'll be on manual again :P
[02:42] <mrbrdo> i could try backuping the network dir maybe
[02:43] <bascule> mrbrdo: just make the iwconfig stuff into a small simple bash script
[02:43] <bascule> unless you really need roaming mode on
[02:44] <mrbrdo> would be fun for school
[02:44] <Odd-rationale> mrbrdo: Well have fun! See you later!
[02:44]  * bascule has iwconfig and i[tables in a script, sudo ./netup.sh
[02:45] <mrbrdo> sounds fun :P
[02:46] <bascule> it's reall incredibly simple
[02:46] <mrbrdo> i know but i kinda want the knetworkmanager to work
[02:46] <mrbrdo> i hope this kde4 isn't still all broken i was looking forward to it
[02:46] <bascule> it's reasonably broken :)
[02:47] <mrbrdo> bah
[02:47] <mrbrdo> isn't it an official release
[02:47] <mrbrdo> ala stable
[02:47] <boggystudios> Odd-rationale: I fixed it by commenting everything except "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback"
[02:47] <bascule> yes, but with a view as a development platform
[02:47] <bascule> it works, mostly
[02:47] <mrbrdo> :)
[02:48] <mrbrdo> boggystudios he's gone ;)
[02:48] <Darktan_> what is a good way to convert vidoe files under kubuntu? namely ripped dvd's to something else
[02:48] <boggystudios> mrbrdo: well that worked for me so try it and see if it works for you
[02:49] <boggystudios> later everybody
[02:49] <brian_> How can I get a SimpleDrive mounted so I can write to it? It reports "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)" with the mount command.
[02:49] <bascule> Darktan_: to avi, go for acidrip or k9copy
[02:50] <bascule> !info acidrip k9copy
[02:50] <ubotu> acidrip: ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.14-0.2ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 63 kB, installed size 308 kB
[02:50] <Darktan_> ok, that will work on already ripped DVDs?
[02:50] <bascule> no, what do you wanna do?
[02:51] <Darktan_> well i already ripped the DVD and gave it back to my friend, i have the vob, ifo bup files on the hard drive, i want to convert them
[02:51] <Darktan_> if i can;t do that, i can get the DVD's back
[02:52] <bascule> acidrip will do this, need to tell it where the vobs are though, k9 probably can too
[02:52] <Darktan_> ok
[02:52] <Darktan_> i'll try it
[02:52] <Darktan_> i assume i need to get mplayer as well?
[02:53] <bascule> apt will pull in the deps, sudo aptitude install acidrip
[02:53] <Darktan_> ok
[02:54] <Darktan_> is aptitude any different than apt-get?
[02:54] <bascule> a little, same basic functions though
[02:54] <jhutchins> Darktan_: Supposedly handles the database better.
[02:54] <bascule> aptitude is more thorough at removal
[02:54] <jhutchins> Darktan_: You may also be interested in tovid.
[02:54] <Darktan_> ok
[02:54] <Darktan_> ! tovid
[02:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <Darktan_> what is it?
[02:55] <jhutchins> Darktan_: It's a set of wrapper scripts with a GUI, designed for mastering DVD's and building nice menu screens.
[02:55] <Darktan_> ahh
[02:55] <jhutchins> !find tovid
[02:55] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in gutsy
[02:55] <jhutchins> Darktan_: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[02:56] <jhutchins> Darktan_: It's just scripts really, so safe to install from tarball.
[02:56] <jhutchins> Darktan_: It's packaged for a lot of systems, surprized it's not in kubuntu.
[02:56] <Darktan_> ok, thx, bookmarked it, i might use it
[02:56] <Darktan_> i usually just plug my laptop in to the tv
[02:57] <jhutchins> That works too.
[02:57] <jhutchins> If you want to share, though...
[02:58] <jhutchins> Darktan_: btw for packages use !find or !info, !<word> is for keywords.
[02:58] <jhutchins> (some of which are also packages.)
[02:59] <Darktan_> OK, thx
[02:59] <Darktan_> well acidrip won't pull up the already ripped one, so i
[02:59] <Darktan_> i'll just get the dvds again
[02:59] <Darktan_> thx again, i'm off to sleep
[03:01] <tribaldata> !divx
[03:01] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:03] <brian_> Ext. hd SimpleDrive reports "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)" with the mount command. How can I get it writable?
[03:05] <martalli> i have a strange problem with kubuntu gutsy...my ctrl, shift, and alt keys don't work all of the sudden
[03:06] <tribaldata> Guys want you using to play divx in kubutu ?/
[03:06] <martalli> is this caused by some utility i should get rid of, like sticky keys/
[03:06] <martalli> ugh, i can't even type a question mark
[03:07] <martalli> this has happened before, and i can 'fix' it with restarting the xserver or a full reboot, so i think it is something with kde or maybe the xerver
[03:08] <Dr_willis> I play divx with all the video players.
[03:09] <Dr_willis> You may need the w32codeces installed.
[03:10] <martalli> it would be in the non-free-codecs from medibuntu
[03:11] <Dr_willis> There is some sort of 'disabled-accessiablity' feature that can affect those keys.. but ive never really messed with it.,
[03:11] <Dr_willis> I though it enabled a systemtray icon also.
[03:13] <martalli> hmm
[03:13] <Dr_willis> the kind of thong that always activates in the middle of a hot gaming session! :)
[03:13] <martalli> Dr_willis: let me look around
[03:17] <martalli> i am wondering if it wasn't the google search doing thay
[03:18] <martalli> the ctrl-ctrl keyboard shortcut is probably the problem....
[03:19] <mi_> kde4 working better with compiz
[03:27] <mrbrdo> ok i'm having this problem with knetworkmanager
[03:27] <mrbrdo> when i try to manually configure
[03:27] <mrbrdo> i get (in terminal)
[03:27] <mrbrdo> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'.
[03:28] <mrbrdo> and nothing happens
[03:28] <mrbrdo> it doesn't open anything
[03:28] <biovore> configure manualy from the terminal...
[03:28] <biovore> sudo ifconfig eth0 <ip address> netmask <netmask>
[03:28] <mrbrdo> i wanna get it working
[03:28] <mrbrdo> the knetworkmanager
[03:28] <mrbrdo> i know how to conf from console
[03:30] <biovore> does it pop up a kdesu dialog for a password?
[03:32] <mrbrdo> well
[03:32] <mrbrdo> it does if i run it without sudo, yes :)
[03:32] <level1_> Hi, by defualt, root prevents me from doing a lot of stuff relating to passwords, forcing me to change them at inconvient times and not letting me change passwords to other passwords that are "similar"... how do I configure these options?
[03:32] <mrbrdo> but then i get a few other errors thrown at me too
[03:32] <biovore> level1_: if your root.. it shouldn't be doing that..
[03:33] <level1_> biovore: well, I have sudo access... this is my own computer, only I use it
[03:33] <level1_> biovore: I don't usually run as root
[03:34] <biovore> level1_: you changing user passwords from the command line?
[03:34] <level1_> biovore: no, kde gui
[03:34] <biovore> no clue on the gui..
[03:35] <biovore> kdesu sometimes does weirdness (not real root)
[03:36] <mrbrdo> i'm doing upgrade now i hope this fixes the network manager problems
[03:37] <level1_> kde gui won't let me change my password from bXXXXX74 to bXXXXX[+  because they are too similar
[03:37] <biovore> I wouldn't hold my breath..
[03:37] <level1_> I'm changing them for good reason
[03:37] <mrbrdo> level1_ what about passwd?
[03:37] <biovore> biovore: yeah.. not sure about the gui polices..
[03:37] <level1_> mrbrdo: same error
[03:37] <mrbrdo> weird
[03:38] <biovore> should be able from the command line though..
[03:38] <Agent_bob> biovore use root account to adjust passwords     it's not restricted.
[03:38] <biovore> yes..
[03:38] <acme64> howdy
[03:38] <mrbrdo> ydwoh
[03:38] <acme64> omghax
[03:38] <biovore> sudo passwd <username>
[03:38] <mrbrdo> lol
[03:38] <acme64> so i downloaded this kde theme
[03:38] <acme64> it came in a tar, and a ton of files and stuff
[03:38] <Agent_bob> no.    sudo -i    then   passwd <name>
[03:39] <acme64> readme says run ./configure, but that results in an error
[03:39] <biovore> yup that works to
[03:39] <acme64> what do i need to do?
[03:39] <mrbrdo> u need to tell us which error
[03:39] <biovore> depends on the error
[03:39] <mrbrdo> i guess ur just missing some build tools :P
[03:39] <biovore> probably missing a lib and headers need to compile
[03:39] <acme64> well, its checking for a bunch of stuff, some checks say yes some no
[03:39] <acme64> then it stops at
[03:39] <acme64> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[03:40] <Agent_bob> biovore and it's safer.  that leaves  you in the root shell, just incase you do something "stupid" like locking the sudoers account.
[03:40] <mrbrdo> u need the xorg dev package then i think
[03:40] <mrbrdo> Agent_bob what's the difference with -i and -s
[03:40] <biovore> interative shell verse forked shell
[03:40] <biovore> enviroment settings
[03:40] <Agent_bob> or should i say. something that results in a less than planned for state.
[03:41] <acme64> i searched xorg in adept, nothing came up
[03:41] <biovore> -i is technicaly safer
[03:41] <level1_> biovore: is there a way to change the defaults so it won't be annoying?
[03:41] <biovore> possibly.. the policy settings I think are in /etc/pam.d/
[03:41] <mrbrdo> acme64 it's Xorg or X11 or something
[03:41] <biovore> its a pam thing..
[03:41] <mrbrdo> acme64 and it has to have -dev at the end
[03:41] <Agent_bob> mrbrdo sudo -i    is vertually the eqlivant of  su -
[03:41] <dropinbombs> need some help with ics please i want to share my wireless connection which is wlan0 with my eth0 thats connected to my xbox through a crossover cable
[03:42] <mrbrdo> Agent_bob aha and sudo -s is like su?
[03:42] <Agent_bob> yep
[03:42] <mrbrdo> cool didn't know that
[03:42] <biovore> dropinbombs: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
[03:42] <biovore> !firewall
[03:42] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:42] <dropinbombs> biovore i did that last time and it screwed up lol is there a gui i could use
[03:43] <biovore> Firestarter might work ok
[03:43] <biovore> you guarddog
[03:43] <dropinbombs> thanks :)
[03:43] <Agent_bob> both guarddog and firestarter are very limited in the options avalable.
[03:43] <biovore> yes..
[03:44] <dropinbombs> aw omg lol wasnt for me hey biovore is there a gui i could use to set up my ics?
[03:44] <julkie> hey
[03:44] <julkie> how can i configure kde4 taskbar?
[03:45] <dropinbombs> im going to search in adept for ics see if anything comes up
[03:45] <dropinbombs> or couldnt i just configure the gateway of the eth0 to point to my wireless connection?
[03:46] <Agent_bob> you can.
[03:46] <dropinbombs> hmm that sounds like an idea
[03:47] <acme64> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:47] <acme64> theres literally a hundred qt packages, which one do i get now?
[03:47] <SpookyET> hi
[03:47] <dropinbombs> so basically eth0 will be static ip <IP_ADDRESS> with gateway of <IP_ADDRESS> and my wireless ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and my gateway for that to the router is <IP_ADDRESS> sounds right?
[03:48] <Agent_bob> dropinbombs or you can bridge the two interfaces
[03:48] <SpookyET> How come openoffice ubuntu renders fonts horribly while openoffice from openofice.org renders them properly
[03:48] <dropinbombs> agent bomb how do i bridge them? like that right?
[03:49] <dropinbombs> so my router ip is <IP_ADDRESS> so the gateway for the wireless would be <IP_ADDRESS> then the eth0 gate way would be wireless ip?
[03:51] <Agent_bob> dropinbombs no   i would call that linking the one to the other   but that is uni-dirrectional.  a bridge is bi-dirrectional.   and thus by default less secure.   you probably want what you mentioned.  i was just pointing out "bridge-utils" and making both interfaces appear to the system as one interface.
[03:52] <dropinbombs> aww
[03:52] <Agent_bob> i wouldn't reccomend bridging a lan with an internet interface.
[03:52] <dropinbombs> so the way that i said is pretty good?
[03:52] <Agent_bob> yes
[03:52] <dropinbombs> sweet
[03:52] <mrbrdo2> hi
[03:52] <mrbrdo2> again
[03:53] <mrbrdo2> :)
[03:53] <dropinbombs> all i have to do is set the network settings up
[03:53] <dropinbombs> thanks so much
[03:53] <Agent_bob> route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:53] <Agent_bob> badabing
[03:53] <dropinbombs> :)
[03:53] <dropinbombs> im in routes selected eth0 and changed the ip to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:54] <dropinbombs> that didnt work :(
[03:54] <mrbrdo2> i'm getting this output when running knetworkmanager and it's driving me crazy
[03:54] <mrbrdo2> http://www.pastebin.ca/855635
[03:54] <mrbrdo2> and when i try to manually configure i get this
[03:54] <mrbrdo2> kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kcm_knetworkconfmodule'.
[03:54] <mrbrdo2> and then nothing opens
[03:55] <mrbrdo2> this is right after kwallet prompt
[03:55] <mrbrdo2> and google doesn't know anything about this
[03:55] <dropinbombs> sweet
[03:55] <dropinbombs> i think i did it
[03:57] <acme64> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[03:57] <acme64> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[03:57] <acme64> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[03:57] <acme64> can someone translate pz? lol
[03:58] <biovore> sudo apt-get install kdesdk
[03:58] <Agent_bob> mrbrdo2 major 20 minor 0 would be either hitcd or mcdx device...   what's the rest of the output on that pastebin ?
[04:00] <mrbrdo_> sorry i got DCed
[04:00] <mrbrdo_> anyway
[04:00] <mrbrdo_> kcmshell --list doesn't show any module
[04:00] <Agent_bob> mrbrdo2 major 20 minor 0 would be either hitcd or mcdx device...   what's the rest of the output on that pastebin ?
[04:00] <mrbrdo_> Agent_bob:  i'll run knetworkmanager again and copypaste everything
[04:01] <dropinbombs> that didnt work
[04:01] <biovore> acme64: firewall?
[04:01] <dropinbombs> lol was worth a try
[04:01] <acme64> ?
[04:01] <biovore> sorry.. I mean mrbrdo_
[04:01] <mrbrdo_> well
[04:01] <mrbrdo_> my LAN is firewalled to the outside
[04:02] <acme64> hmm this make command spewed a ton of errors or sometihng...
[04:02] <dropinbombs> i tried to place my eth0 gateway to <IP_ADDRESS> but when i try to connect to the xbox ip <IP_ADDRESS> it doesnt work
[04:02] <mrbrdo_> but as far as this particular box is concerned i don't know.. if it's firewalled by default then yes.. else no
[04:02] <mrbrdo_> Agent_bob: http://www.pastebin.ca/855643
[04:02] <biovore> mrbrdo_: you have  -i lo  -j accept on the input chain?
[04:02] <dropinbombs> im going to try to bridge
[04:02] <mrbrdo_> Agent_bob: this shows up when i click manual configuration, else it doesn't seem to output anything now
[04:02] <Agent_bob> k   looking
[04:03] <mrbrdo_> biovore:  sorry how do i check that, i use ipfw more
[04:03] <neosaki> Anyone know what kernel the current Kubuntu release is using?
[04:03] <biovore> mrbrdo_: sudo iptables --list
[04:03] <mrbrdo_> it's all empty
[04:03] <ardchoille> neosaki: 2.6.22-14 on Gutsy Gibbon here
[04:03] <biovore> all the policies set to ALLOW?
[04:03] <mrbrdo_> but policy is ACCEPT for all
[04:03] <acme64> http://paste-bin.com/12969
[04:03] <acme64> can someone read this plz
[04:03] <biovore> ok.. firewall ins't the problem then..
[04:04] <neosaki> Is there anyway I can get a copy of the Kubuntu install CD with <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:04] <biovore> acme64: I seen that before.. I headers for that in some weird kde development header package somewhere..
[04:04] <acme64> meaning?
[04:04] <biovore> acme64: Don't remember what one unfortionaly..
[04:04] <biovore> acme64: your missing a dependency
[04:04] <acme64> im still missing someting?
[04:04] <acme64> ic
[04:05] <acme64> how do i find out
[04:05] <biovore> acme64: your missing kcommondecoration.h
[04:05] <dropinbombs> Agent_bob how does the bridge work i need to be able to have the eth0 device connect out to the internet while also being able to ftp to the xbox ip addy.. see my xbox isnt wireless so im using the computers wireless card :)
[04:05] <biovore> acme64: try packages.ubuntu.com
[04:05] <Lindsay> hi
[04:05] <dropinbombs> i downloaded bridge-utils already
[04:06] <L-BO> ight
[04:07] <acme64> im tryin to install this theme called domino, but i need some engine apparently, does that help any?
[04:07] <Agent_bob> !find dekorator
[04:07] <ubotu> Found: kwin-style-dekorator
[04:07] <Agent_bob> !find decoration
[04:07] <ubotu> Found: libdecoration0, libdecoration0-dev
[04:07] <Agent_bob> acme64 maybe   ^
[04:07] <acme64> is that what i need bob?
[04:08] <acme64> hm
[04:08] <mrbrdo__> eh DC again
[04:08] <mrbrdo__> what was my last line?
 but policy is ACCEPT for all
[04:08] <mrbrdo__> ah
[04:08] <biovore> acme64: I built it once here..  I spent 30 mins looking for the right package that has those headers in it..
[04:08] <acme64> lol
[04:08] <mrbrdo__> maybe it's because kwallet didn't pop up this time tho, (remembered from before probably)
[04:08] <dropinbombs> Agent_bob i got bridge utils but i dont know how this works
[04:08] <biovore> acme64: it's a kde development package..
[04:08] <mrbrdo__> hm this is getting weird.. if i go to system settings - date & time, everything is greyed out but there is no button to let me 'play root' to change anything
[04:09] <biovore> dropinbombs: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html
[04:09] <dropinbombs> aww thank you
[04:09] <biovore> dropinbombs: not totaly what you want.. but it shows how to setup a br interface (bridged)
[04:10] <biovore> debian and ubuntu are very simular.. should work..
[04:10] <Agent_bob> ubuntu is/was based on debian
[04:10] <crimsun> still is.
[04:10] <biovore> Agent_bob: it true.. just dont say it in the debian channel :-P
[04:11] <Agent_bob> crimsun someone corrected me on that.  said that more packages were going the other way these days.
[04:11] <dropinbombs> aww
[04:11] <rileynowokowski> I need some help with Adept Manager, it's giving me some problems, if anyone can PM, that'd be great!
[04:13] <ardchoille> rileynowokowski: It would be great if you could keep it in the channel. That way others can learn things. I can't begin to tell you all of the great info I have learned just being here.
[04:13] <dropinbombs> so now im confused i dont know what im trying to do well i do but i dont know how to get there. I have my computer with 2 internet cards on them one is eth0 it connects to my Xbox through a crossover cable Then i have a wireless card also that connects to the net. Now my Xbox is modded so i can stream music off the internet but i need a way to get there.
[04:13] <Hirvinen_> !ask | rileynowokowski
[04:13] <ubotu> rileynowokowski: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[04:13]  * Agent_bob seconds ardchoille
[04:14] <mrbrdo_> eh keeps knocking me out
[04:14] <mrbrdo_> can i remove the network-manager package
[04:14] <mrbrdo_> or is it important
[04:14] <mrbrdo_> since i won't be using network-manager-kde aka knetworkmanager
[04:14] <dropinbombs> so i use a crossover cable from the xbox to my computer now i need eth0 to share or use the wlan0 internet, and the eth0 card also has to be able to ftp stuff back to the xbox
[04:14] <Hirvinen_> mrbrdo_: Just turn it off.
[04:15] <mrbrdo_> Hirvinen_:  how do i do that?
[04:16] <rileynowokowski> okay, I went to install KDE 4.0, by following the instructions on the Kubuntu website, and i did it all through third party repositories, it started to load, and everything went well, then it crashed about 60% of the way in, and now whenever i go to open Adept Manager i get this error "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get aptitude). Would you like to
[04:16] <rileynowokowski> attempt to resolve this problem? No will enter read-only mode and Cancel to quit and resolve this issue yourself" so I click "Yes" and it just takes me to the KDE Crash Handler
[04:16] <Hirvinen_> mrbrdo_: rclick icon in the panel -> options -> configure -> general settings -> uncheck "Start..." and then close it.
[04:16] <Agent_bob> dropinbombs i would still sujest making a 'nat' from the eth iface and pointing the xbox to the box with two faces as the default gw      be sure to turn on ipv4_forwarding on the gw and set the other to the same dns
[04:17] <rileynowokowski> I am a complete noob on linux, too, thought i should add that in.
[04:17] <acme64> damn, so no idea what package i need :(
[04:17] <dropinbombs> aww okay im not lost now :)
[04:17] <mrbrdo_> Hirvinen_: that's for network-manager-kde
[04:17] <mrbrdo_> i was asking for network-manager
[04:17] <mrbrdo_> that's not the gui
[04:18] <ardchoille> rileynowokowski: Support for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:19] <Agent_bob> the inet--gw--lan   setup is pretty simple and well documented.   even as network illiterate as i am, i setup my first nat without "much" help.    secret is in the route command and the iptables nat table
[04:20] <Agent_bob> there are scripts that can make it realy easy.     only trouble i had was getting a second nat to be bi-dirrectional    that i finally ended up bridging.
[04:24] <Hirvinen_> mrbrdo_: Is NetworkManager started at boot?
[04:24] <acme64> sweet found d eb file for the domino install
[04:25] <Hirvinen_> mrbrdo_: I think(but am not sure) it's started by its KDE/Gnome/whatever applet.
[04:25] <acme64> how do i instlal those again, dpkg name?
[04:25] <Hirvinen_> mrbrdo_: In which case what I described, would be sufficient.
[04:25] <Agent_bob> -i
[04:29] <acme64> hmm aptget gave me an error
[04:29] <acme64> listed 2 dependencies i need but wont install for some reason
[04:30] <Agent_bob> dpkg does not pull in deps    use apt for that
[04:32] <acme64> goh i know
[04:32] <acme64> it said what i was missing
[04:32] <acme64> so i apt get kde core
[04:32] <acme64> but it wont install kdebase, or kdelibs
[04:33] <Agent_bob> bersion conflict
[04:33] <Agent_bob> version even
[04:34] <Agent_bob> maybe kdebase-bin
[04:35] <acme64> get that?
[04:35] <robert_> yay
[04:36] <Agent_bob> idk it's your dependancy issue not mine.  i try to stick with packages in the repos     i figure if 20,000 packages are not enough i should just turn the power off and walk away.
[04:37] <Agent_bob> some of the things in multiverse are remarkable.   and i don't know anyone that has tried them all.....
[04:38] <acme64> lol
[04:39] <acme64> adept found it
[04:39] <acme64> and installed it
[04:39] <Agent_bob> sorry if i sound unwilling to help with dependancy issues on non-suported packages.  it's just that.... well, i am.
[04:39] <Agent_bob> :)
[04:39] <acme64> no worries
[04:40] <acme64> if this was a main os id be more concerned
[04:40] <acme64> but me being a noob im just tryin to learn and mess around
[04:40] <acme64> someone yesterday told me never to "alien" a rpm package
[04:40] <acme64> so i did anyway lol
[04:40] <Agent_bob> good, you learn a lot by the "try it and reformat" methood.  i know i did.
[04:40] <acme64> its the windows way lol
[04:41] <acme64> now that i think of it, i shoulda made a drive image of kubuntu after i got them gfx drivers installed, boy was that a pain
[04:43] <acme64> well, got domino in here
[04:43] <acme64> i did allll that....just to run a variation of it :p
[04:43] <Agent_bob> clones are nice.   dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdc   (clone drives only)   then you have two systems you can destroy before you reload...  :)   <assumes adjusting of menu.lst and fstab>
[04:44] <acme64> can i make like an image
[04:45] <Agent_bob> sure if you have the free sace for it
[04:45] <Agent_bob> space
[04:45] <Agent_bob> air
[04:45] <Agent_bob> air head
[04:45] <acme64> well i was thinkin somethin like an iso of the drive
[04:46] <acme64> then expand it back on if i break something
[04:46] <acme64> a compressed image
[04:46] <Agent_bob> tarball maybe
[04:47] <Agent_bob> that would exclude the blank space of the drive while preserving the perms and ownership.
[04:47] <Agent_bob> tar was after all writen for that purpose
[04:48] <acme64> cool
[04:52] <Agent_bob> echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n[ -d "$2" ] && [ -d "$1" ] && tar -cf - "$1" | tar -xf - -C "$2" || echo error!' > tarcopy.sh && chmod 755 tarcopy.sh
[04:54] <MGalaxy> I have a problem with AWLAscii.ttf font ( includes in LDOCE 2005 ) It is not shown properly, any solution?
[04:55] <neosaki> So, if I decide to recompile the kernel for SMP as well as 64-bit, where should I start?
[04:55] <till_> hi. i'm surfing the web at proxy behind a proxy server (http) but it seems not to work in the newest konqueror-kde4... is there any solution?
[04:55] <Agent_bob> i thought smp was built in to the default kernels neosaki
[04:56] <neosaki> but 64-bit isn't
[04:56] <neosaki> Perhaps I should have clarified that better >.>
[04:57] <Agent_bob> neosaki you can't just change the kernel for 64bit, you have to install the 64bit system and then yes 64bit is built in.
[04:58] <neosaki> Does Kubuntu have IA64 support?
[04:58] <neosaki> !IA64
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia64 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <neosaki> Nevermind, found the ISO
[05:12] <Sajes> Is there an option in xorg.conf where you can enable truetype?
[05:14] <rahmat> how do you think of KDE4?
[05:14] <ardchoille> rahmat: kde4 isn't finished. One should reserve judgement until one has all the evidence :)
[05:15] <hydrogen>  I stilll think its better than sliced bread
[05:15] <indystorm_> hey how can I get kde4 on kubuntu?
[05:15] <ardchoille> indystorm_: support for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:15] <hydrogen> !kde4 | indystorm_
[05:15] <ubotu> indystorm_: KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:19] <ForgeAus> hey acme :)
[05:19] <acme64> ok uh...i broke somethin
[05:19] <acme64> wassup ForgeAus
[05:19] <ForgeAus> acme, shouldn't you go to the hospital :) lol
[05:19] <acme64> they dont support my distro :(
[05:19] <ForgeAus> they?
[05:19] <acme64> hospitol
[05:19] <ForgeAus> oh
[05:20] <acme64> ok so i cant move any windows around
[05:20] <ForgeAus> well generally they put broken things in plastercasts and stuff
[05:20] <acme64> the minimize and maximize and all that jazz is gone
[05:20] <ForgeAus> did you install compiz/beryl or something like that?
[05:20] <acme64> well i was messing with the themes
[05:20] <acme64> i got domino and dekorator
[05:21] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[05:21] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about domino and dekorator
[05:21] <acme64> if i hit alt and space i get the menu to move windows around
[05:21] <acme64> and that works
[05:21] <addyk> Is kde4 out?
[05:21] <addyk> I saw some packages with kde4 at the end
[05:22] <hydrogen> topic..
[05:22] <acme64> arg this is lame
[05:24] <acme64> why is that even a seperate application
[05:24] <MGalaxy> I installed kubuntu 7.10 from dvd, after that , in the middle of upgrade process some error occurred and the process failed, but now adept manager doesn't show any upgradable packages, what should I do?
[05:24] <acme64> whatever handles the windows should do that
[05:24] <addyk> Oh yeah :D Silly me...
[05:24] <addyk> thanks hydrogen
[05:24] <acme64> MGalaxy:  same thing happened to me
[05:24] <addyk> Um... a simple command to install all? sudo apt-get install kde4 ?
[05:24] <hydrogen> acme64: run kwin
[05:26] <kadam> Is there a way to get persistent tabs in Kate or KDevelop?  As in, when you press 'enter' to go to the next line, it's automatically indented the same as the line you were on?
[05:26] <hydrogen> yes
[05:26] <acme64> QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
[05:26] <acme64> QPainter::end: Missing begin() or begin() failed
[05:26] <addyk> Thank you! :)
[05:26] <acme64> o.0
[05:27] <kadam> hydrogen: Yes, for I?
[05:27] <hydrogen> kadam: yea
[05:27] <hydrogen> its in settings
[05:27] <vers> hey, i have a problem....i go to school online and alot of my teachers require microsoft word documents and pictures to be transfered...is there anyhing i can do?
[05:27] <hydrogen> you can use openoffice
[05:27] <hydrogen> it supports .doc
[05:28] <hydrogen> or you can stab the school
[05:28] <hydrogen> and tell them to support open formats
[05:28] <vers> lol
[05:28] <hydrogen> like they should
[05:28] <kadam> hydrogen: I'm sorry, in Kate or KDevelop?  Do you know the official name of it?  Methinks I missed it...
[05:28] <hydrogen> kadam: kate has it, kdevelop embeds kate for the editing
[05:28] <kadam> hydrogen: I agree!!!  In addition, work done by students FOR school should all be made open... In all sectors 8)
[05:29] <kadam> hydrogen: Oh I did not know that...
[05:29] <vers> how about transfering pics?
[05:29] <hydrogen> kadam: settings->configure kate->indentation
[05:29] <hydrogen> vers: what do they want you to use on windows?
[05:29] <vers> word
[05:29] <hydrogen> you can put pictures in openoffice documents
[05:29] <vers> and when i try and paste a pic it doesnt work
[05:29] <hydrogen> its a full featured word processor
[05:30] <vers> ohhh ok
[05:30] <vers> sorry ...im a newbie at this
[05:30] <vers> but i like it
[05:30] <hydrogen> no worries!
[05:30] <vers> alot better than microsoft
[05:30] <hydrogen> openoffice is not the greatest program
[05:30] <hydrogen> but it gets the job done
[05:30] <vers> thats what i like....simplicity
[05:34] <kadam> vers: Make sure you save it as a .doc filetype though; or the relavent M$ extension... it sucks to get to school and realize you can't open the document there becaue it's in .odf format...   Unless that's a non-concern; I might just be imagining that memory :)
[05:37] <vers> lol..thanks...i just took a look and figured it out....
[05:40] <ForgeAus> kadam I wonder why oo.o havn't made an addon filter for office users to open .odfs in mso ...
[05:40] <ForgeAus> or .odt's or whatever the extension is for the file in whatever office app is appropriate for it
[05:41] <ForgeAus> the converter pack is extensible isn't it?
[05:47] <jungletech> hey i'm having trouble upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10, getting an error that says Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:47] <jungletech> anyone know why?
[05:48] <kadam> ForgeAus: I'm not sure...  I think MS should support it by default... Just a sign of their poor sportsmanship 8)
[05:51] <jungletech> I think it might have something to do with the restricted bit, but not sure why
[05:54] <arrrghhh> so my sound isn't working on my laptop... i guess i never really tested it until now, but i get absolutely nothing from it.  i've never had to do anything special on any of the other machines i've installed kubuntu on for sound...
[05:56] <arrrghhh> any ideas?
[05:57] <AmyRose> !pm | indystorm_
[05:57] <ubotu> indystorm_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:57] <AmyRose> haha
[06:02] <arrrghhh> uhm... no ideas?
[06:04] <arrrghhh> i'm going thru dmesg
[06:04] <arrrghhh> i don't see anything that throws red flags, especially about sound
[06:04] <AmyRose> Red flags? I didn't know dmesg was in color =P
[06:05] <arrrghhh> you certainly are helpful aren't you
[06:06] <arrrghhh> in kinfocenter it says "Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG" - i'm not sure what they mean by synth devices...
[06:07] <fizzz> anybody help me keep my x server from starting ?
[06:08] <ForgeAus> fizz?
[06:08] <ForgeAus> um are you in kdm?
[06:08] <Agent_bob> fizzz update-rc.d
[06:08] <CppIsWeird> how do i get kde to not group tasks in the task bar? i've hunted for it and so far i cant find it
[06:09] <arrrghhh> CppIsWeird: right click on the taskbar, go to configure panel
[06:09] <fizzz> i typed that but it didnt do anything
[06:09] <arrrghhh> select taskbar, find "group similar tasks"
[06:09] <arrrghhh> sounds like you want 'never'
[06:10] <CppIsWeird> ahh
[06:10] <arrrghhh> fizzz: do you get an error?
[06:10] <CppIsWeird> duh, dont know how i missed that
[06:10] <CppIsWeird> thanks
[06:10] <arrrghhh> yea it happens
[06:11] <arrrghhh> i have that problem, sometimes you just need a little help
[06:11] <fizzz> update-rc.d [-n] [-f] <basename> remove
[06:11] <fizzz>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> defaults|multiuser [NN | sNN kNN]
[06:11] <fizzz>        update-rc.d [-n] <basename> start|stop NN runlvl [runlvl] [...] .
[06:11] <fizzz>                 -n: not really
[06:11] <arrrghhh> fizzz: please pastebin errors... multiline stuff like that is frowned upon
[06:12]  * Agent_bob wonders why man pages get writen...
[06:12] <fizzz> k sorry
[06:13] <fizzz> but i need to turn off my x server
[06:13] <arrrghhh> man pages are great when people read them... but sometimes they are cryptic and don't really help.  that's usually not the norm, but sometimes.  like the manual for virtualbox?  sheesh.
[06:13] <arrrghhh> you need to turn off your x server
[06:13] <MephistOdyssey> are apt-get really functional?
[06:13] <arrrghhh> you want to stop your x server?
[06:13] <Agent_bob> fizzz i probably misunderstood your question.    for how long do you want the xserver turned off ?
[06:14] <arrrghhh> MephistOdyssey: apt-get is extremely functional...
[06:14] <fizzz> just so i can install my video card driver
[06:14] <arrrghhh> fizzz: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:14] <Agent_bob> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:14] <arrrghhh> assuming you're not running gdm as well
[06:14] <MephistOdyssey> sorry, apt-build
[06:14] <arrrghhh> MephistOdyssey: i think so, but i'm not sure.
[06:14] <Agent_bob> or actually   sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop
[06:14] <arrrghhh> well that would take care of any other dm's lol
[06:15] <Agent_bob> i may start kde but not from kdm   so why assume that others do
[06:15] <arrrghhh> certainly
[06:15] <arrrghhh> so no one has a single freakin suggestion for my sound
[06:16] <arrrghhh> i have a weird realtek HD audio sound card in this laptop
[06:16] <d03boy> im on dapper. why do I only have ajva 1.4?
[06:16] <d03boy> java
[06:16] <arrrghhh> holy jeebus why are you on dapper?!?
[06:16] <arrrghhh> and 1.4 isn't that old...
[06:16] <arrrghhh> i guess it depends if you're developing or not
[06:16] <Agent_bob> maybe same reason i am arrrghhh
[06:16] <arrrghhh> why's that?
[06:17] <arrrghhh> cuz it's LTS?
[06:17] <Agent_bob> LTS and dialup connection.
[06:17] <arrrghhh> your dialup doesn't work in anything newer?
[06:17] <Agent_bob> you don't just dl an iso at will.
[06:17] <arrrghhh> ah
[06:17] <arrrghhh> i see
[06:17] <arrrghhh> i forget people still use dialup :P
[06:17] <CppIsWeird> how do i keep the labels on the tasks from fading or going dim?
[06:17] <arrrghhh> don't they ship cd's for free?
[06:17] <ubunturos> Agent_bob: no local LUG's around?
[06:17] <arrrghhh> bah if you want to use dapper, then more power to ya.
[06:18] <Agent_bob> ubunturos no local nothing around
[06:18] <arrrghhh> CppIsWeird: that's probably a transparency setting... check your transparency settings.
[06:18] <d03boy> i'm on dapper because i am.. i gotta backup my stuff before I upgrade
[06:18]  * Agent_bob is next door to the spider and the scorpian.
[06:18] <d03boy> and I do develop
[06:19] <arrrghhh> or wait, CppIsWeird - you mean when a task is minimized, the text becomes 'shaded'....
[06:19] <arrrghhh> d03boy: i don't know what version of java is supported in dapper.  look into getting a new jdk.
[06:20] <Agent_bob> sun-java5-jdk < is in dapper repos
[06:20] <arrrghhh> why is the "cycle tasks with mouse wheel" setting under "window decorations"!?!
[06:20] <Agent_bob> 6 may be back ported
[06:20] <arrrghhh> there ya go
[06:22] <CppIsWeird> yeah
[06:22] <fizzz> can yall type that command again i typed it but the screen went black and no propt came up
[06:22] <arrrghhh> CppIsWeird: if you want to change that, you'll have to do some work on the window decorations... i'm not sure where that setting is, you're gonna have to do some pokin around
[06:23] <arrrghhh> fizzz: "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop"
[06:23] <Agent_bob> !find java dapper
[06:23] <ubotu> Found: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 193 others)
[06:23] <goutham> hi
[06:23] <ubunturos> hi goutham
[06:23] <Agent_bob> fizzz if it goes blank   hit alt+f2
[06:23] <goutham> Im a novice kubuntu user
[06:23] <MephistOdyssey> what is the best benchmark  utility for linux KGutsy
[06:23] <fizzz> k
[06:23] <arrrghhh> Agent_bob: why don't you use *dm.... i guess i don't understand the difference in wildcards there
[06:23] <ubunturos> goutham: hmm :)
[06:24] <goutham> hi ubunturos
[06:24] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh because i only want one letter to match  not everrthing
[06:24] <arrrghhh> goutham: if you got a question, shoot.  no need to beat around the bush
[06:24] <goutham> need to know how to install kde 4 on kubuntu
[06:24] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh example   ls /etc/init.d/*dm
[06:24] <arrrghhh> Agent_bob: i see, thank you!
[06:24] <arrrghhh> goutham: don't
[06:25] <Agent_bob> and if he is raided and needs mdadm then....
[06:25] <arrrghhh> goutham: i can tell you how, but it's not ready
[06:25] <goutham> oh k
[06:25] <goutham> will not install..but can u tell me how ?
[06:25] <arrrghhh> 3.5.8 is very mature and completely functional
[06:25] <arrrghhh> ugh
[06:26] <arrrghhh> goutham: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php
[06:26] <Agent_bob> !kde4
[06:26] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[06:26] <arrrghhh> that will tell you all you need to know
[06:26] <arrrghhh> damnit bob! :P
[06:26] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:26] <xt|> how do i reboot my sound system?
[06:26] <arrrghhh> well if no one has a single suggestion for my sound... i'm gonna have to go to bed!
[06:27] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh i missed the Q   care to repete it ?
[06:27] <arrrghhh> well my sound simply doesn't work
[06:27] <Agent_bob> xti system settings  sound   restart
[06:27] <arrrghhh> and i've never had to do anything to get it to work on any other machine
[06:28] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:28] <arrrghhh> so honestly i haven't tried much, i switched from autodetect to some of the other selections with no effect
[06:29] <arrrghhh> Agent_bob: http://pastebin.com/d2ac44b8b
[06:29] <fizzz> yo
[06:29] <fizzz> says i need the libc header files ?
[06:29] <Agent_bob> !hda
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hda - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <Agent_bob> fizzz what are you compiling ?
[06:30] <arrrghhh> fizzz: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:30] <arrrghhh> i think
[06:30] <arrrghhh> and you'll probalby need build-essentials
[06:30] <arrrghhh> sounds like nvidia drivers
[06:30] <x_zeuss> has anyone installed kubuntu with kde 4?
[06:30] <fizzz> nvidia
[06:30] <Agent_bob> x_zeuss several people
[06:30] <x_zeuss> can it succesfully replace a 3.5 kde desktop?
[06:30] <arrrghhh> x_zeuss: i'd say no based on my testing
[06:30] <Agent_bob> depends on the definition of "success"
[06:31] <arrrghhh> i mean it looks really good
[06:31] <x_zeuss> arrrghhh: what made u say no? what didn't work that good?
[06:31] <arrrghhh> but it's not nearly as mature as 3.5.8
[06:31] <arrrghhh> well
[06:31] <arrrghhh> a lot of the configuration options were not present
[06:31] <x_zeuss> in what way mature?
[06:31] <arrrghhh> plasma's not really ready
[06:31] <arrrghhh> neither is phonon
[06:31] <arrrghhh> don't get me wrong, it was pretty
[06:31] <arrrghhh> but i felt like i couldn't do anything with it
[06:32] <x_zeuss> so u wouldn't recomand it for a day to day use
[06:32] <arrrghhh> nope
[06:32] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh did you check the bug reports to see if hda and your version of everything has known issues,   cause i have seen several mention an hda bug.
[06:32] <arrrghhh> hrm
[06:32] <arrrghhh> i haven't...
[06:32] <arrrghhh> i don't really know what kinda card it is
[06:32] <arrrghhh> realtek
[06:32] <arrrghhh> intel
[06:32] <arrrghhh> hda
[06:32] <Agent_bob> that of course would/should be kernel specific, seeing that alsa is a kernel thang
[06:32] <arrrghhh> ja
[06:33] <arrrghhh> crap i guess no sound for now...
[06:33] <arrrghhh> every other machine i have it was flawless, no need to even fiddle with it
[06:33] <arrrghhh> i'm spoiled by the simplicity of ubuntu lol
[06:34] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh if you can get the guys in #alsa on it they can probably fix you in about five or less
[06:34] <arrrghhh> lol
[06:34] <arrrghhh> i'll keep that in mind when i'm back home
[06:34] <arrrghhh> i'm in a hotel right now, and looking at the time and the flight i need to catch tomorrow, i need to go to bed... thanks tho
[06:34] <Agent_bob> they have a script that you run and then they tell you what you need to do.
[06:34] <Agent_bob> arrrghhh welcome.
[06:35] <arrrghhh> okies
[06:35] <arrrghhh> it's bedtime
[06:35] <arrrghhh> cya all
[06:36] <arrrghhh> thanks again bob
[06:36] <nibbe> how do I get the X Window System libraries and headers. ?
[06:36] <erik__> Hello :) I'm using Kubuntu with KDE 4. I have no major issues, but although KDE fonts (K-menu etc) are easy to read, all applications have very small fonts (looks like they are around 7-8, although I set all fonts in my settings to 10 and larger). Anyone able to help me with this?)
[06:38] <Agent_bob> xorg-dev maybe ?
[06:41] <Agent_bob> erik__ tiny unreadable fonts have long been a gripe of mine.    but, in dapper the kcontrol look and feel fonts section does affect the fonts perfectly    not that that can be applied distro-wide     what version are you using ?
[06:41] <Agent_bob> gutsy and kde4 ?
[06:41] <Agent_bob> oh too late.
[06:44] <Agent_bob> shalom.
[06:58] <Qarl> I have some extra function keys (F12-F19) that I would to define.  I know the keycode they send, but am unable to register them as shortcut keys in KDE.  How can I configure these keys to work?
[06:59] <erik__> In answer to my earlier question in this room regarding small fonts in KDE 4, it has been solved: go to settings -> fonts, and force the DPI to 96, restart KDE and all is good :)
[07:03] <Zombocom> how do I fix the fact that my virtual consoles display a blinking _?
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> erik__: congrats (though my snarky answer would have been: "the same as kde 3") = and check #kubuntu-kde4 for kde 4.0 support
[07:05] <erik__> Okey Daisuke_Ido, I'll go there next time :)
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> erik__: no worries :)
[07:13] <root__> !compiz
[07:13] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:15] <mike-kubuntu> hey guys, i'm trying to install but it says kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> !kde4
[07:17] <ubotu> KDE 4.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/ - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[07:17] <Daisuke_Ido> ^ last line
[07:19] <mike-kubuntu> yeah, i asked in in #kubuntu-kde4, no ones there
[07:20] <fizzz> ! compiz
[07:20] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[07:26] <mike-kubuntu> i've done some googling on the issue and forum searches and found some people getting hte same problem but no solution, i've notice although i have removed the old kde packages the way it said and then done an apt-get autoremove, there are still some previouse packages on the system which are getting in the way of the upgrade, any idea what other packages could be messing with it?
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[07:28] <mike-kubuntu> i have some packages bieng kept back, how do i get them to upgrade
[07:28] <mike-kubuntu> kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdm kfind konqueror
[07:29] <Daisuke_Ido> mike-kubuntu: dist-upgrade
[07:31] <mike-kubuntu> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[07:32] <skurakai> hi. is normal that amarok in kubuntu doesn't know diacritic? and other non latin characters :-)
[07:33] <xptical> has anyone tried to run kubuntu with an encrypted /home/ filesystem?
[07:33] <skurakai> and second problem - czech translate in kubuntu, linuxmint kde ... doesn't work correctly. Is it problem in czech language pack or in my HW.
[07:36] <xptical> join /ubuntu
[07:36] <xptical> oops
[07:36] <xptical> :P
[07:41] <mike-kubuntu> no one about the wierd kde4-core depends on kdebase-workspace >= 4:4.0.0? i've followed the guide
[07:45] <Daisuke_Ido> try updating/upgrading again after doing the dist-upgrade
[07:45] <xptical> so, I'm guessing encrypted filesystems are getting crickets...
[07:49] <mike-kubuntu> DAisuke_Ido: still no luck, made sure i had no other lines in my sources.list and removed the packages mentioned int he guide and did an autoremove and the dependency issues still there
[08:01] <PolitikerNEU> Is it possible that even though I have 7.10 gutsy, adept_updater offers me to upgrade to 7.10 - and if I want to install the upgrade, I get error messages (I use kubuntu 7.10, 64 bit)
[08:03] <appelza>  how do I add a second ip using ifconfig?
[08:04] <Lynoure> appelza: second ip for the same physical interface? I'd just add an alias to /etc/network/interfaces, any reason you want to do it with ifconfig?
[08:04] <appelza> not using debian based on this device im working with, but the answer is ifconfig eth0:1 <ip>
[08:06] <Lynoure> appelza: yes, it is. :)
[08:06] <Lynoure> and then you need to add routes, if they differ.
[08:09] <jussi01> PolitikerNEU: yeah, thats a known bug IIRC
[08:12] <nuxil> any reason kbluelock dosent work?
[08:12] <nuxil> !kbluelock
[08:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbluelock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <nuxil> hmm
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[08:28] <nuxil> hi
[08:28] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[08:29] <sammy> so I'm using kde, I have an ldap server with address books set up for everyone individually. I know how to set up ldap access through kde resources, but doesn't that setup the resource for all the users? how do I set up the ldap contact list for each user individually?
[08:29] <sammy> (I know, not exactly a kubuntu question)
[08:31] <nuxil> donno.. never tried it
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> sammy, another dude was messing with ldap a few days ago
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> sammy, surely the ldap gives a central control for addressbooks etc. why do you want one setting up for individual users?
[08:32] <nuxil> arrg.. i'll go script my own kbluelock.. since the one with kbluetooth dosent work for me ;/
[08:33] <Lynoure> sammy: Which method of "through kde resources" you meant? Anything you can set without sudo is affecting that user only
[08:33] <sammy> Lynoure: oh! well that's that then. setting up an ldap contact resource in the system settings is per user?
[08:34] <Lynoure> sammy: the setting you set as a user, without sudo, are the ones under ~/.kde, so yes :)
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> sammy: its cool, Lynoure just made it clear
[08:36] <sammy> ActionParsnip: ldap allows me to have one big address book for all my users, but everyone has their own address book for private use, which is also available from a web interface.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> sammy, ok cool :)
[08:37] <Lynoure> It was nice to see an ldap question that was solidly in the pro bono range of things :)
[08:38] <sammy> Lynoure: how so?
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> sammy, couldnt they just add them in the email client in their local profile?
[08:39] <sammy> ActionParsnip: this way my addressbook transcends clients and storage options etc. anything that supports ldap addressbooks supports my addressbook, no upgrading, no migrating, no importing/exporting
[08:39] <sammy> maybe I don't understand the question
[08:40] <Lynoure> sammy: usually the ldap questions are quite large :)
[08:43] <sammy> Lynoure: the best way to learn is to teach yourself. I just come in here when I'm feeling lazy ;)
[08:44] <sammy> and ldap is a beast
[08:45] <jet_> how many people using kde4 here?
[08:46] <Lynoure> jet_: Unless you are compiling stats, try #kubuntu-kde4
[08:46] <jet_> ah will do thanks
[08:47] <jet_> sorry should've read the channel topics...
[08:47] <Lynoure> jet_: it happens :) and some people try to compile stats, though that happens rarely :)
[08:51] <adelfin> hello I'm looking for a webdrive software uin kubuntu gutsy gibon
[08:52] <jussi01> adelfin: what do you mean by webdrive`??
[08:52] <adelfin> for mounting externals drives like folders
[08:52] <nuxil> webmin
[08:52] <adelfin> with ftp or sftp protocol
[08:58] <Lynoure> adelfin: just try bookmarking ftp://  URI in konqueror, should work fine. might work in dolphin too
[09:01] <adelfin> thanks
[09:34] <se7en> is it possible to edit your grub menu.list on boot up
[09:37] <nuxil> yes
[09:37] <nuxil> press e
[09:38] <nuxil> but its not saveble. but you can manage to boot to. then edit you menu.list file
[09:38] <se7en> thanks nuxil
[09:45] <fizzz> !compiz
[09:45] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:48] <mith_> hi all!
[09:48] <mith_> on log in my kicker doesn't loads in... what is the problem?
[09:53] <fizzz> !compiz
[09:53] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[09:53] <azman> hi
[09:53] <ocs> Hi. I have a process which uses the serial port (ttyS0). for some reasons, the process makes the port blocked, and after killing that process the port remains unavailable. however fuser /dev/ttys0 dosen't give me anithing after the process is killed, but the port remains blocked... what could I do? thnks
[09:59] <slloyd> hello, I am new to kubuntu and irc, where do I go for help?
[10:01] <sigma_1234> !info bluepad
[10:01] <ubotu> Package bluepad does not exist in gutsy
[10:26] <apparle> hi
[10:26] <xou> hi ppl
[10:28] <xou> i have bug whith lotus notes 8 for linux
[10:28] <xou> use this anyone?
[10:29] <level1> I want to be able to ssh into a freind's computer and help him manage it; however, he doesn't want me looking at his personal files.  Is there a way he can give me sudo or equivalent but deny me access to his home folder?
[10:31] <apparle> khotkeys seems to crash everytime???
[10:32] <xou> ÂÌÑ ÔÕÔ ÅÓÔØ òÕÓÓËÏÑÚÙÞÎÙÅ?
[10:33] <bazhang> xou: what is the issue?
[10:33] <foibles> how do you forcekill an app in elive
[10:34] <foibles> killall isnt cutting it
[10:34] <foibles> iceweasel froze and is now lagging me
[10:34] <bazhang> the linux distribution elive foibles?
[10:34] <foibles> oh, whoops
[10:34] <foibles> wrong channel
[10:34] <bazhang> hehe
[10:34] <posingaspopular> killall -9 should do it btw
[10:37] <foibles> posingaspopular, thanks
[10:39] <xou> bazhang: i install lotus notes
[10:39] <bazhang> xou: right--and what is the exact issue; please be precise
[10:39] <xou> run /opt/ibm/opt/ibm/lotus/notes/notes
[10:39] <xou> lotus starded
[10:40] <xou> input server name
[10:40] <xou> give my ID file
[10:40] <xou> and have bug
[10:40] <xou> when input pass for my ID file
[10:40] <xou> pass is correct
[10:41] <xou> but lotus not accept my pass
[10:42] <xou> maybe need some libs?
[10:42] <xou> or java class?
[10:42] <xou> i use kubuntu 7.10
[10:42] <bazhang> xou: let do a quick google for that okay?
[10:42] <xou> java from standart repository
[10:42] <bazhang> xou: let me *
[10:43] <xou> google given't right result
[10:44] <xou> in windows version of lotus notes all good
[10:44] <bazhang> http://www.offthehill.org/articles/2007/12/12/installing-lotus-notes-8-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy/ xou would this be helpful?
[10:45] <xou> bazhang: thanks but i already reed this link
[10:45] <xou> when install lotu
[10:45] <xou> *lotus
[10:46] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589672 what about this xou
[10:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580958 and this as well xou
[10:54] <xou> bazhang: no
[10:54] <xou> in console lotus print next message:
[10:54] <xou> :~$
[10:54] <xou> 2008/01/15 16:49:58.623 CONFIG eclipse.buildId=build20070731-1521
[10:54] <xou> java.fullversion=J2RE 1.5.0 IBM J9 2.3 Linux x86-32 j9vmxi3223ifx-20070714 (JIT enabled)
[10:54] <xou> J9VM - 20070713_13151_lHdSMR
[10:54] <xou> JIT  - 20070109_1805ifx5_r8
[10:55] <xou> GC   - 200701_09
[10:55] <xou> BootLoader constants: OS=linux
[10:55] <xou> , ARCH=x86
[10:55] <xou> , WS=gtk
[10:55] <xou> , NL=c
[10:55] <xou> Framework arguments:  -dir ltr -personality com.ibm.rcp.platform.personality -product com.ibm.notes.branding.notes -plugincustomization /opt/ibm/lotus/notes/framework/rcp/plugin_customization.ini
[10:55] <xou> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -dir ltr -personality com.ibm.rcp.platform.personality -product com.ibm.notes.branding.notes -data /home/xou/lotus/notes/data/workspace -plugincustomization /opt/ibm/lotus/notes/framework/rcp/plugin_customization.ini ::class.method=com.ibm.rcp.core.internal.logger.frameworkhook.writeSession() ::thread=Start Level Event Dispatcher ::loggername=com.ibm.rcp.core.internal.logger.frameworkhook
[10:55] <xou> 01/15/2008 16:50:28   Lotus Notes client started
[10:55] <xou> [Fatal Error] :-1:-1: Premature end of file.
[10:55] <xou> 2008/01/15 16:52:34.987 WARNING CLFRJ0016I: Waiting for Notes password, state is : Unknown ::class.method=class com.ibm.workplace.internal.notes.security.auth.NotesLoginModule.NotesLoginModule() ::thread=ModalContext ::loggername=com.ibm.workplace.internal.notes.security
[11:05] <bazhang> !paste | xou
[11:05] <ubotu> xou: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:06] <bazhang> xou: no you haven't seen those links, no they are not helpful, or no idea
[11:07] <xou> no is they are not helpful
[11:08] <xou> sorry i bad know english
[11:08] <xou> !paste
[11:08] <bazhang> xou: the bit about chown into the different directories? that seems as if that perhaps might be germane in your case
[11:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:08] <xou> :~$
[11:08] <xou> 2008/01/15 16:49:58.623 CONFIG eclipse.buildId=build20070731-1521
[11:08] <xou> java.fullversion=J2RE 1.5.0 IBM J9 2.3 Linux x86-32 j9vmxi3223ifx-20070714 (JIT enabled)
[11:08] <xou> J9VM - 20070713_13151_lHdSMR
[11:08] <xou> JIT  - 20070109_1805ifx5_r8
[11:09] <xou> GC   - 200701_09
[11:09] <bazhang> ugh
[11:09] <xou> BootLoader constants: OS=linux
[11:09] <xou> , ARCH=x86
[11:09] <bazhang> xou: dont paste here
[11:09] <xou> , WS=gtk
[11:09] <xou> , NL=c
[11:09] <xou> Framework arguments:  -dir ltr -personality com.ibm.rcp.platform.personality -product com.ibm.notes.branding.notes -plugincustomization /opt/ibm/lotus/notes/framework/rcp/plugin_customization.ini
[11:09] <xou> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -dir ltr -personality com.ibm.rcp.platform.personality -product com.ibm.notes.branding.notes -data /home/xou/lotus/notes/data/workspace -plugincustomization /opt/ibm/lotus/notes/framework/rcp/plugin_customization.ini ::class.method=com.ibm.rcp.core.internal.logger.frameworkhook.writeSession() ::thread=Start Level Event Dispatcher ::loggername=com.ibm.rcp.core.internal.logger.frameworkhook
[11:09] <xou> 01/15/2008 16:50:28   Lotus Notes client started
[11:09] <xou> [Fatal Error] :-1:-1: Premature end of file.
[11:09] <xou> 2008/01/15 16:52:34.987 WARNING CLFRJ0016I: Waiting for Notes password, state is : Unknown ::class.method=class com.ibm.workplace.internal.notes.security.auth.NotesLoginModule.NotesLoginModule() ::thread=ModalContext ::loggername=com.ibm.workplace.internal.notes.security
[11:09] <xou> ok sory
[11:10] <tuxick> lol
[11:10] <tuxick> sounds like crappy software
[11:10] <xou> remove dir and chown i already do
[11:11] <bazhang> lotus notes 8 is problematic with ubuntu, at least from what I have read; those links I gave you seem to have solved it though (wonders how thoroughly xou read them)
[11:12] <xou> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/51997/
[11:16] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222492 here is howto xou ; after that I am out of suggestions (long thread--suggest you read it all)
[11:19] <xou> bazhang: sanx
[11:19] <bazhang> xou: no problem
[11:19] <jgadmin> morning
[11:20] <mellh> hi@all
[11:20] <jussi01> jgadmin: morning! can we help?
[11:20] <jgadmin> Yea got a quick qestion
[11:20] <mellh> i test the irc the first time
[11:21] <jgadmin> Anybody else having install problems with Kubuntu 7.10?   Specifically the system update once Kbuntu is fresh installed.
[11:21] <jussi01> jgadmin: what specifically about it?
[11:21] <jgadmin> Got a zillion errors, when the updates were applying, left the system hosed.
[11:22] <mellh> i use kubuntu 7.10 with kde4 without any bigger problems
[11:22] <jgadmin> Only way I could get it to work was to install Ubuntu, get allo the freaking updates, reboot, then install KDE.
[11:23] <mellh> @jgadmin do you use adept_manager or aptitude?
[11:23] <jgadmin> Mind you I've been at this for 34 hours now.... I lost track of the re-installs.... LOL
[11:23] <jgadmin> Aptitude on the shell
[11:24] <mellh> k
[11:24] <jussi01> jgadmin: I need some more info on the problems...
[11:24] <mellh> can you paste the log of aptitude somewere?
[11:24] <jgadmin> Basically if you do a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10, and then get the updates, the system crashes, because of all the errors in the updates.
[11:25] <jgadmin> No on the log.... That was the previous install   LOL
[11:25] <mellh> but i use a fresh installed kubuntu 7.10 with all updates and kde4 without ANY big probs
[11:25] <jussi01> jgadmin: tell us exactly what you did, ie. using adept, or ?
[11:26] <mellh> i used "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[11:26] <jgadmin> Well....  Did a fresh install of Kbuntu, then got the "Restricted Drivers", and then all of the updates for Kbuntu
[11:27] <jussi01> jgadmin: cool. did you use adept to get the updates? did you enable any repositories?
[11:27] <jgadmin> When it was unpacking the updates and installing them, there were over 3000 errors in scripts.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[11:28] <mellh> maybe a packet was broken, which should do the unpacking task
[11:28] <jgadmin> Enabled the Resposotories, and used the application on the desktop (by the clock) to get the updates.
[11:29] <jussi01> jgadmin: ok. when in that app, did you get the list of updates? or just update?
[11:29] <mellh> you mean adept_updater?
[11:29] <jussi01> jgadmin: and did you enable any 3rd part repos?
[11:29] <jgadmin> Anyway.....  Can someone tell me how to uninstall Gnome from this (Ubuntu install, with KDE added)?
[11:29] <jussi01> !purekde | jgadmin
[11:29] <ubotu> jgadmin: purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> jgadmin, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[11:30] <jgadmin> thx got the URLs
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jgadmin, i misread your request. my link is to install gnome
[11:31] <jgadmin> So just a rehash.....   Ubuntu Fresh Install, Got the Restriced Drivers, Updated Ubuntu, Rebooted, then Installed KDE, which I'm in now.
[11:31] <mellh> how can i get rid of kde3.58 when i use kde4 on kubuntu 7.10?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jgadmin, ignore mine :)
[11:31] <jgadmin> k
[11:32] <jgadmin> How do I tell which version of KDE is installed?
[11:32] <nibbe> The application unknow (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). This happens when I go to any site with Flash. How do I fix it?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> jgadmin, in konqueror -> help -> about kde
[11:33] <jgadmin> k thx
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mellh, http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=665153
[11:34] <mellh> @Action: but if he uses kde4.0 and kde3.5x there are different konquerors with different kde-versions. (but i thiks he only uses kde 3.58)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> mellh, thats how id get it. Let me google some more
[11:35] <jgadmin> KDE 3.5.8 here.....   How do I updated to KDE 4?
[11:36] <mellh> i think it isnt usefull to do that at this moment unless for testing
[11:36] <nuxil> so i made my own kbluelock in bash. it works for single phone. http://pastebin.ca/855903 since the one in kbluetooth doesnt work. "at least not with me", however. is there other tools that is faster than hcitool scan ? it seems like it needs "10 sec ++" to scan again after a scan.. erm.
[11:36] <jgadmin> ok
[11:36] <nibbe> The application unknow (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). This happens when I go to any site with Flash. How do I fix it?
[11:37] <mellh> kde4.0 is more or less stable, but you will miss alll the functions, which made kde better than gnome
[11:37] <jgadmin> Thanks again...... You all RoCk!!!!   later
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> mellh, but kde4 uses less resources :)
[11:38] <mellh> yes, but if you have to use kde3 apps, (adept) these resources are empty
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> mellh, i use mainly command line personally (apt) but you have a good point
[11:39] <SSJ_GZ> http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ#Is_KDE4_Faster_or_Slower_than_KDE3.3F
[11:40] <mellh> thx ssj
[11:40] <SSJ_GZ> np :)
[11:41] <mellh> any system relevant thinks are done via command line. when adept has any broken package he jusr gives useless errors with OK button
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> mellh, i've never used it cos I like CLI
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> mellh, sudo apt-get isnt hard but noobs like a pretty thing to click imho
[11:42] <mellh> but i reolved this little "memory problem" of kde3.5 while using 4gb of ram ^^
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> mellh, what do you use your system for?
[11:44] <mellh> the system with 4gb ram is used for multimedia, gaming (et qw, doom3...) and verry importand image processing
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> mellh, nice
[11:45] <marco__> hi, which is the channel for Hardy problems?
[11:45] <marco__> (can0t install kde4)
[11:45] <mellh> when you want to edit photos which are 250mb big in  your memory, you are forced to use more ram
[11:46] <mellh> at this moment i use an old notebook by a friend with 256mb ram ^^
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> mellh, crazy man :D. I made a rig for a dude like that. He had this SCSI negative scanner that made images a bit bigger than that
[11:46] <mellh> i know. same problem with old photos.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> had a printer in his loft that ran over ethernet that did 4 foot by 12 foot banners on continuous ink
[11:48] <mellh> ok iam from europe i dont know how long foods and inches are.  my food is...let me look for...25cm?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> mel, yeah close enough
[11:48] <mellh> kk
[11:50] <mellh> do you know, why this irc does not allow me to use my full nick? "mellhên"? do special characters not work?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> mellh, i get mellhên from that
[11:52] <mellh> could you sendme your chat-log, so could see if he uses mellh or mellhên ?
[11:52] <mellh> like this:
[11:52] <mellh> [12:51] <-- gladier hat den Server verlassen (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
[11:52] <mellh> [12:52] <mellh> could you sendme your chat-log, so could see if he uses mellh or mellh
[11:53] <hims> hello hims
[11:53] <hims> hey Himanshu
[11:53] <hims> How are is your PHP Upgradation process going
[11:54] <hims> did you found anything interesting for PHP7.5
[11:54] <hims> I am sure you must have something as you given me few socks last time when you given me PHP5 features at end time
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> mellh, itcomes out as garbage
[11:55] <nibbe> The application unknow (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). This happens when I go to any site with Flash. How do I fix it?
[11:55] <mellh> ActionParsnip: ok ill change the nick to mellhen without ê
[11:58] <nibbe> Whenever I configure Konsole and press OK. the configures wont take place.
[11:58] <nibbe> Why?
[11:58] <mellhen> ActionParsnip: back again
[12:06] <nibbe> why is ATI bad for Linux?
[12:09] <SSJ_GZ> nibbe: Their drivers currently suck.  There's some cause for optimism, though.
[12:09] <nibbe> k
[12:10] <nibbe> The application unknow (nspluginviewer) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). This happens when I go to any site with Flash. How do I fix it?
[12:11] <llutz> nibbe: downgrade flash to <= 9.0.48
[12:11] <nibbe> how?
[12:13] <parkin> all my sound have suddenly stopped working, any ideas why or what i might need to reinstall?
[12:16] <parkin> ive rtied to restart sound system but it boots up to 100% then restarts booting to 0 and loads to 100% again and so on
[12:18] <ubuntu__> tja dogge
[12:21] <ubuntu__> yay i started the installation for kubuntu!!!
[12:21] <GS3> anyone awake?
[12:22] <GS3> i reformatted an ntfs drive using a linux utility. it's now has a fat32 partition on it instead.
[12:22] <GS3> windows reads/writes this new partition fine
[12:23] <GS3> kubuntu does not
[12:23] <GS3> any suggestions?
[12:23] <MGalaxy> anybody has installed Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English 2005 on (k)ubuntu?
[12:23] <GS3> not i, sry
[12:25] <Wizard> does somebody have gnash working under konqueror?
[12:34] <bazhang> MGalaxy: from what source? is that in the repos?
[12:35] <nibbe> how do i use .run files?
[12:35] <MGalaxy> bazhang: no, It is 2CDs dictionary and can be installed on linux,win and mac, actually is based on Mozilla Framework
[12:36] <bazhang> MGalaxy: thanks for the info! will google asap :}
[12:42] <nibbe> how do i use .run files in the konsole?
[12:46] <parkin> my sound have suddenyl stopped working on my asus a6vm laptop
[12:48] <GuyFromHell> My kernel seems to have forgotten the existance of my wireless card, iwl4965. It shoes up it messages but the module has not been loaded and it doesn't show up in ifconfig >.>
[12:52] <Jack111> hi
[12:52] <Jack111> what could i use like the abby finereader in kubuntu to edit pdf files??
[12:56] <GuyFromHell> going ot just try restarting...
[12:57] <AmyRose> I installed KDE 4.0.0, and I can't seem to figure out what to do to get a static .gtkrc-2.0 file for GTK apps. (That is, no matter what I try, when KDE 4 starts up, my GTK apps are back to the plain Raleigh theme). Any ideas?
[12:57] <Jack111> any idea how to edit pdf files in kubuntu?
[12:58] <AmyRose> Jack111: KWord can open them, but its ability to edit them depends on how the PDF is structured.
[12:58] <AmyRose> YMMV
[12:58] <Jack111> YMMV?
[12:58] <AmyRose> Your Mileage May Vary
[12:59] <Jack111> THANKS
[12:59] <AmyRose> It depends on the PDF itself
[12:59] <bazhang> !ymmv
[12:59] <ubotu> ymmv is short for "Your mileage may vary". It means that someone else's experience with compatibility, performance etc. may not necessarily match yours. Also see !wfm
[12:59] <AmyRose> !wfm
[12:59] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[12:59] <AmyRose> Well, it WorksForMeSometimes :D
[12:59] <bazhang> haha
[13:00] <jussi01> AmyRose: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde 4 support :)
[13:00] <GuyFromHell> just in case anyone was wondering, i fixed it by loading into 2.6.22-14-generic rather than 2.6.22-14-386
[13:00] <AmyRose> OK, I will go there
[13:01] <FaiDillinGer> hi there
[13:01] <FaiDillinGer> can someone tell me please how do i install xen on my kubuntu gutsy ??
[13:01] <AmyRose> I've had better luck with VirtualBox
[13:02] <AmyRose> as in, it actually works =P
[13:02] <FaiDillinGer> i heard xen was the best virtualisation software
[13:02] <FaiDillinGer> thats why i want that one
[13:02] <AmyRose> Well, it doesn't work with all hardware.
[13:02] <FaiDillinGer> oh really ?
[13:02] <AmyRose> Yeah, you need a CPU with special features if you want to use all the features
[13:03] <FaiDillinGer> i got a core2 quad
[13:03] <AmyRose> oh, you should be fine then
[13:03] <FaiDillinGer> it should have instructions
[13:03] <FaiDillinGer> yep
[13:03] <AmyRose> Sysinfo for 'amy-laptop': Linux 2.6.22-14-generic running KDE 3.5.8, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz at 2399 MHz (4792 bogomips), HD: 24/53GB, RAM: 486/503MB, 136 proc's, 10.42h up
[13:03] <AmyRose> ^ My pathetic system =P
[13:03] <AmyRose> er, it's wrong about the KDE version though
[13:03] <FaiDillinGer> its pretty ok
[13:03] <FaiDillinGer> except maybe for the ram
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, its more than I got
[13:04] <FaiDillinGer> a little more wouldnt harm
[13:04] <nibbe> is Konquer made by mozilla or seamonkey?
[13:04] <AmyRose> ActionParsnip: You should see the result on my old computer. It's a 332 MHz Pentium II =P
[13:04] <AmyRose> I'm installing KDE 4.0.0 on it now
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> nibbe, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konqueror
[13:04] <FaiDillinGer> and AmyRose, is virtualbox running well ?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, a fine system for xubuntu :)
[13:05] <AmyRose> ActionParsnip: But KDE runs great on it!
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, or gentoo ;)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, then its cool
[13:05] <AmyRose> Um, no. I don't like waiting for the OS to compile
[13:06] <AmyRose> It runs Kubuntu Gutsy and will have KDE 4.0.0 on it in a while
[13:06] <nibbe> How do I install an old ver. of flash on Konqueror?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, its a good experience to go through (even ifi didnt make it)
[13:06] <nibbe> the installer I got is only for mozilla, seamonkey and firefox
[13:06] <AmyRose> ActionParsnip: I did. And I got bored.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, fair point :)
[13:07] <AmyRose> I want my computers to JustWork®. And I am happy to say that I am proof enough that Linux is better than Windows in that area. :)
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> nibbe, then install one of those or find an alternative
[13:07] <jussi01> AmyRose: if you need kde4 support -> #kubuntu-kde4
[13:07] <jussi01> :)
[13:07] <AmyRose> jussi01: I already asked there
[13:07] <FaiDillinGer> i really enjoy kubuntu
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> nibbe, what are you trying to achieve
[13:07] <rotini> goodmorning everyone.  Would changes in /etc/fonts/conf.d apply to newly-opened apps, or do I need to restart X for them to take effect?
[13:07] <nibbe> I'm trying to get Flash on Konqueror
[13:08] <nibbe> Don't like Firefox, it's so slow
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, I just use it for the no virus / no spyware :)
[13:08] <AmyRose> Kubuntu needs an I Hate GNOME channel :D
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> AmyRose, I just chat and browse, no need for bulky winslows
[13:08] <AmyRose> Yeah, I pretty much do that
[13:09] <AmyRose> People keep telling me "But you need Microsoft Word for this class" and I just use OpenOffice and save in Word format. So far, none of my teachers knew the difference.
[13:09] <AmyRose> well, my working copy is always in ODF
[13:09] <jussi01> !ot
[13:09] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> can run MS Office through wine/cedega if needs be. OpenOffice is fine. I export to PDF most times
[13:10] <AmyRose> !anything`
[13:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about anything` - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:10] <AmyRose> There, see? Why should we listen to ubotu?
[13:10] <rotini> heheh
[13:10] <AmyRose> ok, I'll stop
[13:10] <jussi01> :)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> !coffee | AmyRose
[13:11] <ubotu> AmyRose: coffee is a caffeinated beverage made by filtering water through ground up roasted beans of the coffee plant. Flavouring to taste such as milk or cream, sugar or sweetener are often added afterwards. Not to be confused with !java
[13:11] <AmyRose> !tea
[13:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:11] <AmyRose> Darn!
[13:11] <jussi01> !botabuse > AmyRose
[13:11] <AmyRose> !botabuse | ActionParsnip
[13:11] <ubotu> ActionParsnip: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[13:11] <rotini> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same below the DE, right?  So for a lot of questions, either channel would probably work?
[13:12] <AmyRose> yes, rotini
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> rotini, indeed but some gui methods of accessing things is different
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> rotini, CLI is identical though :D
[13:12] <AmyRose> but you're more likely to be helped here, especially if you're on KDE, because every time I'm in #ubuntu, it's crazy
[13:13] <rotini> AmyRose: but I'm thinking that there are a lot more eyes on a given problem in #ubuntu
[13:13] <AmyRose> rotini: Yeah, but your questions fly away faster too
[13:13] <rotini> yeah
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> rotini, could ask in both ;)
[13:14] <AmyRose> That's true. It's not the same as cross-posting on a forum.
[13:14] <AmyRose> I prefer IRC to the forums because it's easier to help people on IRC
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> oth have advantages, i guess
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> *both
[13:18] <retipathame> hello i finished installing kubuntu on a multiboot system (i had windows preinstalled) it seems that no bootloader was installed
[13:18] <jussi01> retipathame: try reinstalling grub
[13:19] <jussi01> !grub | retipathame
[13:19] <ubotu> retipathame: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[13:19] <retipathame> i didn't install grub
[13:19] <jussi01> use that first link
[13:19] <retipathame> the other problem is that i can't see the help.ubuntu.com!
[13:19] <jussi01> retipathame: grub is the bootloader, you kind o need it
[13:19] <retipathame> that's why i entered the channel
[13:20] <retipathame> it must be a network problem i can see all sites but not that one!
[13:20] <retipathame> so... is there an installation manual in pdf format?
[13:20] <AmyRose> retipathame: "PDF Format" is "RAS Syndrome" =P
[13:21] <retipathame> sorry i don't understand
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> retipathame, try http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> retipathame, thats the ip of help.ubuntu.com
[13:21] <AmyRose> retipathame: The F in PDF stands for "format", so you're pretty much saying "Portable Document Format format"
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> retipathame, but it is up :D
[13:21] <retipathame> oh :P
[13:22] <jussi01> retipathame: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52014/
[13:22] <retipathame> ActionParsnip: the same error message comes up "
[13:22] <retipathame> An error occurred while loading http://<IP_ADDRESS>/:
[13:22] <retipathame> Could not connect to host help.ubuntu.com.
[13:22] <retipathame> ;
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> retipathame, what ip do you get when you ping it?
[13:23] <jussi01> retipathame: I copied part of that page to the pastebin or you ;)
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> ping help.ubuntu..
[13:23] <retipathame> jussi01:  thnx i'll try that
[13:23] <jussi01> :)
[13:24] <miekko> I have a problem with Eterm under kubuntu
[13:25] <miekko> I run it without borders and such
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> !eterm | miekko
[13:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eterm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> miekko, whats up with it?
[13:25] <miekko> yet, at some sizes, there's a 10pixels wide black bar at the bottom
[13:25] <miekko> cf. http://miekko.infa.fi/snapshot1.png
[13:26] <miekko> the reason I ask here is because I've never seen this occur on gentoo, but it has in every version of kubuntu I've ever tried
[13:28] <fernando> how can I install code:blocks?? the package has a state "brake"
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> miekko, is there a ~/.eterm folder on your system?
[13:29] <qrara> hi
[13:29] <miekko> ActionParsnip: nope
[13:29] <qrara> hi guys!
[13:30] <retipathame> to install grub from a live cd shall i first mount my partitions?
[13:30] <bazhang> !hi
[13:30] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:30] <qrara> anybody can help?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> miekko, bah, ok find out where the config lies on your file system and rename it then rerun to create a stock eterm look, then reconfigure
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> !ask | qrara
[13:30] <ubotu> qrara: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question -- All On One Line, so others can read it and follow it easily --. and if anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[13:32] <qrara> i install kde 4 and accidentally deleted the icons on the panel, how i put them back?
[13:32] <qrara> hello guys?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> qrara, which panel?
[13:32] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 may know
[13:33] <qrara> the bottom panel on desktop
[13:33] <qrara> hi?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ok you mean like the taskbar
[13:35] <jussi01> qrara: #kubuntu-kde4 or kde4 support as bazhang  said ;)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> qrara, listen to jussi01
[13:35] <qrara> yes
[13:35] <emilsedgh> qrara: drag and drop widgets from 'Add Widget' dialog.KDE4 questions should be asked in #kubuntu-kde4
[13:35] <qrara> ok
[13:35] <nicola_> hy...i can't install kde 4...apt says that there is an error...help!
[13:36] <baylie> nicola_: paste it out.
[13:36] <nicola_> ok
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste " nicola_
[13:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste " nicola_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> grrr
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> !paste | nicola_
[13:37] <ubotu> nicola_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[13:38] <nicola_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52016/   it's in italian...!
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> Error during the warehouse of the modifications. Probably it has been a poblem in the unloading of some packages or the warehouse of the modifications could ruin the packages.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> quick babelfish :)
[13:40] <hims> !asf
[13:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[13:41] <hims> !kubuntu
[13:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[13:41] <hims> !connect
[13:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about connect - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:41] <hims> !wyswyw
[13:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wyswyw - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:41] <parkin> !alsa
[13:41] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:41] <hims> !alsa
[13:42] <Giardo> can someone tell me a good media converter from avi to dvd?? thanks
[13:42] <anil> hi
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, devedee
[13:42] <hims> !himanshu
[13:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about himanshu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:42] <jpatrick> !botabuse > hims
[13:42] <anil> is there a good tutorial for using KDE4
[13:42] <hims> !botabuse > hims
[13:43] <anil> I have installed KDE4 .. but confused
[13:43] <hims> oops! Sorry
[13:43] <baylie> I dont think KDE4 is reasonable right now.
[13:43] <Giardo> i alredy use devede but it's too slow in convert... Other options? (excuse me for my bad english but i'm italian)
[13:43] <jussi01> anil: kde4 support to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[13:43] <anil> Why baylie
[13:43] <tzd> i have one question regarding access rights: Will it be enough with read access (to e.g. folder /dev )to copy a file please?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, do it overnight then :)
[13:44] <anil> thanks jussi01
[13:44] <jussi01> :)
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, theres a good script for it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, have you googled at all?
[13:44] <Giardo> what??
[13:45] <baylie> anil: IT's ready for development , not for daily using.Many applications is still not available.
[13:46] <baylie> anil: it need time to do that.
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, did you search for solutions yourself?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-games-multimedia-entertainment/60490-script-convert-burn-dvd.html
[13:46] <anil> baylie ... oh okay ... but seems the stable verison had released
[13:47] <baylie> anil: yeah, the infrastructure is ready. but not complete.
[13:47] <Giardo> yes yes
[13:47] <Giardo> i alredy install tovid and devede
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, have you seen these scripts ?
[13:47] <Giardo> but they are too slow
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, maybe you need to configure them then....
[13:48] <Giardo> how?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Giardo, google is your friend :)
[13:50] <Giardo> ok thenks
[13:51] <Giardo> thanks
[13:51] <Giardo> bye
[13:52] <tzd> i have one question regarding access rights: Will it be enough with read access (to e.g. folder /dev )to copy a file please?
[13:53] <Q-collective> tzd: if you're copying a file *from* that read-only dir, sure
[13:54] <tzd> Q-collective: ah great, i wasn't sure if it was just the read only part that allowed it but now it's confirmed :) Thanks a lot!
[13:54] <Q-collective> np
[14:03] <muesli_> i have a weird problem with kdevelop 3.5. whenever i try to open or create a project it crashes with a bus error
[14:03] <muesli_> anyone ever seen that?
[14:03] <nosrednaekim> muesli_: nope.... but try #kdevelop...
[14:05] <parabora> hello. How can I set WPA wi-fi in Kubuntu with network setting?
[14:06] <parabora> There's only options for WEP
[14:06] <nosrednaekim> parabora: use knetworkmanager
[14:07] <parabora> i am using hardy... The knetworkmanager gives me nothing. The card is working, but nothing is configurable
[14:07] <nuxil> kcmshell kcmwifi
[14:08] <nosrednaekim> parabora: hardy is in #ubuntu+1
[14:08] <parabora> ok thanks then
[14:17] <hellmaster> hi everyone i need some help with kununtu
[14:18] <nibbe> how do i use a .kth file? (a theme)
[14:18] <hellmaster> im new with it but ive manage pretty well
[14:18] <hellmaster> the problem is that my windows dont have the bar with the maximixe buttons
[14:18] <hellmaster> and minimize
[14:18] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: are you trying to use compiz
[14:19] <hellmaster> yes
[14:19] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: do you have a nvidia card?
[14:20] <mooper> hullo, my laptop wont boot properly unless there is an external screen plugged in :(
[14:21] <nosrednaekim> mooper: you probably have that screen set as the primary screen
[14:21] <mooper> nosrednaekim: the external screen?
[14:22] <mooper> hmm, I think it might be the propietory drivers causing trouble
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> mooper: yes
[14:22] <nosrednaekim> mooper: its possible. in any case, a quick "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should fix it
[14:24] <nuxil> i made a script to lock my X in Kde. when my bluetooth is off on my phone it locks X . http://pastebin.ca/856022 .. i did this since the kbluelock  pack seems to be broken my my system.. however.. are there tools faster than hcitool scan to discover a bluetooth signal "mac and name" ?
[14:24] <nuxil> seems like obexftp -b uses hcitool scan
[14:25] <hellmaster> how can i repair my problem
[14:25] <hellmaster> can anyone help
[14:25] <hellmaster> ?\
[14:25] <nosrednaekim> nuxil: lol,you know more than me :)
[14:25] <hellmaster> is just that now all my screens dont have the bar on top of them that have the minimize and maximize buttons and also my cube desktop is not working
[14:26] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: do you have an nvidia card?
[14:26] <hellmaster> no my card is an ati9000
[14:26] <hellmaster> im in a laptop
[14:27] <hellmaster> it was working fine but i seems that i press a combination of keys by accident and everything went like this
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: did you install XGL?
[14:27] <nuxil> nosrednaekim, ?
[14:27] <hellmaster> GL Desktop
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> nuxil: you know more about it than me :)
[14:27] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: run this
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> "sudo apt-cache policy xserver-xgl"
[14:28] <hellmaster> ok
[14:28] <mooper> nosrednaekim: that seems to have borked everything nicely
[14:28] <nosrednaekim> mooper: now whats wrong..
[14:28] <hellmaster> yes
[14:29] <hellmaster> now what
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: what did it say?
[14:29] <hellmaster> installed none
[14:29] <hellmaster> i originally installed ubuntu 7.1
[14:29] <hellmaster> and then installed the rest of things
[14:29] <mooper> nosrednaekim: did the autodetect monitor thing and it has lots of pretty vertical stipes going down the screen
[14:29] <hellmaster> i know ubuntu was running gnome
[14:29] <hellmaster> does that has to do with it
[14:30] <hellmaster> it says installed none
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok, I need the output of "glxinfo" in a pastebin
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> mooper: yech!
[14:30] <hellmaster> candidate 1:<IP_ADDRESS>
[14:30] <hellmaster> ok
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> mooper: so you have no working screen?
[14:30] <mooper> :(
[14:30] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok.
[14:30] <hellmaster> do i paste it here?
[14:30]  * genii sips his coffee
[14:31] <hellmaster> or send you a txt file?
[14:31] <genii> !paste
[14:31] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[14:31] <mooper> nosrednaekim: nope
[14:31] <mooper> nosrednaekim: I think its best just to be lazy and reinstall and stop fucking about with it maybe :)
[14:31] <hellmaster> how do i do that? sorry im new in this...
[14:31] <nosrednaekim> mooper: ok, reboot into recovery mode and unplug your secondary monitor (safe mode should use your laptop scren)
[14:32] <mooper> nosrednaekim: okay
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: run "glxinfo" copy the output and paste it at that URL. then give us the url of your paste
[14:32] <hellmaster> its kind of difficult it doesnt let me expand the window
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: and if you need your window borders back,do "alt+f2" and then "kwin --replace"
[14:33] <mooper> nosrednaekim: I have prompt
[14:33] <hellmaster> that was all i need it
[14:33] <hellmaster> THANKS!!
[14:33] <nosrednaekim> mooper: ok, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: lol, you don't want compiz?
[14:34] <nibbe> what is 'X' ? when I try to configure a theme it says: "Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!"
[14:34] <hellmaster> yes
[14:34] <hellmaster> i want it
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> !X
[14:34] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[14:34] <hellmaster> but you say i need to install the GL for KDE right?
[14:34] <mooper> nosrednaekim: autodetect?
[14:34] <hellmaster> can i do it throug repository
[14:34] <hellmaster> ?
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> mooper: yeah... it won't blow nothing up ;)
[14:34] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: oh yes...
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: run "sudo apt-get install emerald"
[14:35] <mooper> Im assuming it has the correct bus identifyer
[14:35] <nosrednaekim> mooper: yeah... its good about things like that
[14:35] <hellmaster> thanks nosred
[14:36] <hellmaster> i was running the compiz in Gnome
[14:36] <mooper> nosrednaekim: This is a tricky question. Its asking me about ram reserved for video. My ATI mobility does use system mem as bvideo mem but I think its transparent to the os
[14:36] <hellmaster> where you trying to check if the compiz could run with my ati??
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: yeah, in kde, you need emerald (or at least its easier that way)
[14:36] <hellmaster> ok the process finished
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> mooper: leave it as default
[14:36] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: yeah.
[14:36] <hellmaster> now i have to apt-install right?
[14:37] <hellmaster> sorry i already installed
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: install what?
[14:37] <hellmaster> hehehe
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:37] <nosrednaekim> ok, try running, from a alt+f2, "compiz --replace && emerald --replace"
[14:38] <hellmaster> again i lost my windows bars
[14:39] <nuxil> hmm hmm
[14:39] <mallize> so, anyone have a step by step to get upgrade to the new KDE4 release?
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> mallize: read the topic
[14:39] <hellmaster> do i write kwin --replace again?
[14:39] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok, run kwin --replace again
[14:40] <hellmaster> ok they are back
[14:40] <hellmaster> but
[14:40] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: could you run "compiz --replace &&emerald --replace" from a terminal so I can see what the output is?
[14:40] <hellmaster> ok let me check something
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> mooper: finished yet?
[14:41] <mooper> yeah, just rebooting but it takes such a long time
[14:41] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:42] <hellmaster> says checking for xgl not present
[14:42] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: thats probably ok.. as long as it finds "glx_from pixmap" or whatever its called
[14:42] <nibbe> how do i use a .kth file? (a theme)
[14:42] <mooper> nosrednaekim: My thanks. you are rightious
[14:42] <vauli> hello everybody
[14:42] <nosrednaekim> mooper: that fixed it?
[14:42] <mooper> yup
[14:43] <hellmaster> it says texture from pixmap present
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> mooper: cool
[14:43] <vauli> can someone help me pls?
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok, then you are fine
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> vauli: whats the problem
[14:43] <mooper> vauli: wassup
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: anything other errors?
[14:43] <vauli> i have installed mono and then reboot
[14:43] <vauli> but since that i can't see my desktop again
[14:43] <nosrednaekim> installed mono?mono is a disease (in both senses)
[14:44] <hellmaster> obviusly no nvidia present
[14:44] <hellmaster> and the rest says presend and the resolution passed
[14:44] <sigma_> how do i manually change my ip address? I don't want to use a gui, i want to edit the file its contained in - where can i find it?
[14:44] <hellmaster> present
[14:44] <vauli> sh***t...
[14:44] <nibbe> !kth
[14:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kth - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[14:44] <vauli> that's what i said to my partner but he doesn't hear me
[14:44] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok, so its a problem with window decorations, do you have ccsm installed?
[14:45] <hellmaster> not sure
[14:45] <vauli> but there is some reason why that happen? because before all was ok
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: (the compiz control center)
[14:45] <hellmaster> ill check now
[14:45] <nosrednaekim> vauli: no idea.
[14:45] <hellmaster> yes
[14:45] <hellmaster> i do
[14:46] <hellmaster> compiz Config settings manager
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: ok, is "window decorations" checked in there?
[14:46] <hellmaster> i have it
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> right
[14:46] <vauli> well i think there is no solution besides reinstall ubuntu
[14:46] <hellmaster> nope
[14:46] <hellmaster> its not checked\
[14:46] <hellmaster> do i checked it?
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> vauli: did you try booting recovery mode
[14:46] <vauli> yes
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: there you go.. check it
[14:46] <hellmaster> done
[14:46] <nosrednaekim> vauli: does that work?
[14:46] <hellmaster> now?
[14:46] <genii> sigma_: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:47] <vauli> but when i try to startx doesn't happen nothing
[14:47] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: "compiz --replace && emerald --replace"
[14:47] <genii> sigma_: man interfaces            for syntax
[14:47] <vauli> first i thing there could be a space problem
[14:47] <hellmaster> there we go
[14:47] <hellmaster> now its seems to be working
[14:47] <hellmaster> let me check
[14:48] <hellmaster> ok
[14:48] <hellmaster> its working
[14:48] <hellmaster> but
[14:48] <vauli> clean all directories but nithng
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> vauli: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: better?
[14:48] <hellmaster> still cube rotation is not working fine
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: sweet :)
[14:48] <nosrednaekim> hellmaster: you may need to turn that on in the compiz control center
[14:48] <hellmaster> but thanks
[14:48] <vauli> that's the other problem... mi ethernet card isn't recognized
[14:48] <hellmaster> this helped a lot