[02:52] <HayaBusa> i am removing and reinstalling the other version
[02:52] <llutz> HayaBusa: so you have to edit xorg.conf and change "river" from nv to nvidia
[02:52] <llutz> HayaBusa: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:52] <vzduch> you mean "driver"
[02:52] <llutz> "Driver" sry
[02:52] <vzduch> there is no water in the config ;)
[02:52] <llutz> watercooling maybe :)
[02:52] <vzduch> hrhr
[02:54] <simon__> noone able to help me with the frames?
[02:55] <simon__> :/
[02:55] <stdin> simon__: see a beryl icon in the system tray?
[02:56] <simon__> ya
[02:56] <stdin> simon__: right click it, go to window manager, and choose kwin
[02:57] <simon__> theres no kwin
[02:57] <stdin> there should be, if you're in kde
[02:58] <simon__> ah
[02:58] <simon__> found it
[02:58] <simon__> how can i fix the problem? the frames are back
[02:59] <stdin> when you got no frames, it means that beryl failed
[02:59] <simon__> but the other effects worked
[03:00] <stdin> I'd try asking in #beryl they know more than me
[03:00] <simon__> i also got the problem that the normal nvidia glx driver doesnt work so i have to use glx new
[03:00] <simon__> ty
[03:00] <stdin> and I know nothing about the nvidia driver :P
[03:16] <ksivaji> stdin :
[03:17] <stdin> you called?
[03:17] <ksivaji> yes i need your hepl
[03:17] <ksivaji> help
[03:17] <stdin> with?
[03:17] <ksivaji> my system cant detect dvd disk but it works fine in windows
[03:18] <stdin> what do you mean by "can't detect"?
[03:18] <ksivaji> nothing happens when i insert dvd disk into driver
[03:19] <stdin> can you mount it tho?
[03:19] <ksivaji> sivaji@sivaji-desktop:~$ sudo mount /dev/cdrom
[03:19] <ksivaji> mount: No medium found
[03:20] <stdin> hmm
[03:20] <stdin> anything in dmesg?
[03:20] <waylandbill> what sort of dvd is it? one you burnt?
[03:21] <ksivaji> yes it contain movies burnt in windows
[03:21] <ksivaji> what is that dmesg?
[03:22] <frojnd> how can U unrar file if I have to put password in it ??
[03:22] <stdin> ksivaji: dmesg | tail
[03:23] <stdin> frojnd: use ark?
[03:23] <ksivaji> waylandbill stdin any idea
[03:23] <waylandbill> what program did you burn it with? did you close the session or leave the disk appendable?
[03:23] <stdin> frojnd: or (from the manpage) "-p<password> Set password."
[03:24] <ksivaji> waylandbill i am not sure it is my friends dvd
[03:24] <waylandbill> when you say it works in windows, is that on your machine or your friends?
[03:24] <ksivaji> my machine i have dual boot
[03:25] <ksivaji> stdin you what me to paste the output of dmesg | tail
[03:25] <stdin> to pastebin
[03:25] <frojnd> stdin: file allready needs to be unrared with password, ...
[03:26] <zorglu_> q. i want to test if my microphone is working, so i need a tool to view the volume of the microphone input, any suggestion ?
[03:26] <ksivaji> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28979/
[03:26] <stdin> frojnd: yeah, unrar e -pMyPass file.rar
[03:26] <waylandbill> frojnd: ark should prompt for the password.
[03:28] <stdin> ksivaji: do you have libdvdread3 installed?
[03:28] <ubuntu_> hello. I asked for nvidia driver installtion help few minutes ago , after installing , i have no access to kdm , i am using live cd to talk to you guys, how can i fix this problme
[03:28] <ksivaji> stdin yes
[03:29] <Ayabara> does anyone know if I can work safely with hfs drives from kubuntu?
[03:30] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: use older version of xorg.conf if you backed it up before installing.
[03:30] <ksivaji> !hfs
[03:30] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[03:30] <ubuntu_> no back up sorry :(
[03:30] <waylandbill> it might even have been backed up during the process.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> i guess i have to reinstall linux again
[03:30] <waylandbill> you may want to take a look in /etc/X11/ to see what's there.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> is there anyway to acces my files , using the live CD ?
[03:30] <waylandbill> yes. mount the drive to /mnt
[03:31] <ubuntu_> IM new , how can i do that
[03:31] <ksivaji> ubuntu_ sudo mout /dev/hdx /mnt
[03:31] <waylandbill> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt  (if that's the drive and partition you used)
[03:32] <Ayabara> ksivaji, thanks. I already read that one, but it doesn't say anything about how reliable read/write to hfs is
[03:32] <waylandbill> supposedly fuse is pretty reliable. don't know from personal experience though as I don't have hfs or ntfs.
[03:33] <ksivaji> Ayabara sorry i am not sure actually i never hear ed about hfs before
[03:33] <stdin> Ayabara: it'll probably be more reliable than ntfs, as hfs(+) doesn't change much
[03:33] <waylandbill> ksivaji: that pastebin doesn't mention anything relating to the dvd or drive. tail didn't give you far enough back.
[03:34] <Ayabara> stdin, ok. I've bought a Mac, and I need my external drives to be readable and writable from both Ubuntu and OS X
[03:34] <ubuntu_> using sudo mount/dev/hda2/mnt displays , commnand not found
[03:34] <waylandbill> Ayabara: of course you'll want to back up your data before trying anything new that could be potentially hazardous.
[03:35] <Ayabara> waylandbill, it has crossed my mind :-)
[03:35] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: space between mount and /dev
[03:35] <ksivaji> waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28981/
[03:36] <waylandbill> ksivaji: try ejecting and then reloading the disk and then tail the dmesg
[03:36] <ksivaji> waylandbill ok
[03:37] <ubuntu_> i tried all varation of HDAx.. but can't find /dev/hdax/mnt in fstab .. thats what i get
[03:37] <cs5> anyone know what wireless assistant would be called from konsole so i can sudo run it?
[03:38] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: space between /dev/hdax and /mnt too. :-)
[03:38] <ubuntu_> thanks for the help, i guess is faster for me to reinstall the kubuntu.. .. see you in few minute with fresh kubuntu ..
[03:39] <ViciouZ^Laptop> Hello, can anybody help with with the no sound problem?
[03:39] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: that's your call, but learning to mount drives from a command line is a useful skill.
[03:39] <ksivaji> waylandbill http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28982/
[03:39] <stdin> and, no, it won't be faster
[03:39] <ubuntu_> yes. i know , thanks. but for now i really need to work with linux installed on my system rather then live cd, due to fact that is very slow
[03:40] <ksivaji> ViciouZ^Laptop kmenu->multimedia->kmix
[03:40] <Ayabara> is there a linux tool that can create hfs+? gparted can only create hfs. don't even know if I need the +...
[03:41] <waylandbill> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt && ls /mnt/etc/X11   ... that's all you need to really do to see what's there. and then use cp to copy an xorg.conf that probably was made during installation. You're talking a matter of a minute or two.
[03:41] <ViciouZ^Laptop> ksivaji: How does that help? it can't find any mixers. Anyway, i have no sound at ball
[03:42] <ViciouZ^Laptop> *at all
[03:42] <waylandbill> ViciouZ^Laptop: you want to make sure a kernel module even loaded for the sound card first.
[03:42] <cs5> Can anyone help me, i want to run wireless assistant using sudo but it tells mesudo: wireless: command not found
[03:42] <zorglu_> q. i want to test if my microphone is working, so i need a tool to view the volume of the microphone input, any suggestion ?
[03:43] <ubuntu_> Thanks. i can not follow the commands that are being given to me .. is a bit confusing.
[03:43] <ViciouZ^Laptop> waylandbill: I have been trying to install the alsa intel8x0 module, but make comes up with error, error type 2 i think
[03:43] <ViciouZ^Laptop> If it will help i'll send you the makelog
[03:44] <ksivaji> waylandbill what happen any idea........
[03:44] <ViciouZ^Laptop> I have been following this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:44] <stdin> Ayabara: not in the repos, you have to compile the apple tools
[03:44] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: you may want to learn what the commands actually are and do at some point then.
[03:45] <ksivaji> stdin waylandbill help me
[03:45] <waylandbill> ksivaji: doesn't look like there is anything useful in the dmesg.
[03:45] <ubuntu_> first question, how can i figure , which partion live CD is using so i can mount the device
[03:45] <stdin> Ayabara: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus
[03:47] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: I mentioned that you need to put a space between /dev/hdax and /mnt. Did you do that? When you installed, did you manually partition the drive? Is it your only drive? Did you use the entire drive for the install?
[03:47] <Ayabara> stdin, looks good. and writing to hfs+ from ubuntu should work well, right?
[03:48] <Ayabara> ahh. it's open source!
[03:48] <stdin> Ayabara: should do
[03:48] <ubuntu_> ihave XP and linux on two partition . before HDA1 used to show as xp partion
[03:48] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: in any case. if you run kcontrol and go into system administration and select disk & filesystems, you should see the partition layout.
[03:49] <ubuntu_> where is Kcontrol
[03:49] <ubuntu_> :
[03:49] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: sounds like you are looking for hda2 or hda3 depending on how you set up the swap (if you did)
[03:49] <kinus> its not in the menu
[03:49] <kinus> just run it with katapult
[03:49] <waylandbill> alt-f2, then kcontrol
[03:50] <ubuntu_> i did setup a swap as well. so there are 3 partition in total . two for linux and one for xp
[03:50] <cs5> wow
[03:50] <cs5> no help for the simple things in linux
[03:50] <cs5> lol
[03:50] <kinus> whats the problem cs5?
[03:51] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: yeah, so it should be 2 or 3, but won't hurt to look in the disk & filesystems dialog
[03:51] <cs5> just trying to find the sudo command for wireless assistant
[03:51] <ViciouZ^Laptop> http://pastebin.com/943845 <-- does anyone know why this broke? i neeed sound :-(
[03:51] <kinus> oh, sudo wlassistant
[03:51] <cs5> ty very much kinus
[03:51] <kinus> np
[03:51] <kinus> cs5, you should try knetworkmanager - very nice to work with
[03:52] <waylandbill> cs5: you could always do "locate assistant" and find it that way next time.
[03:53] <ubuntu_> hda2 is the linux partion.. :)
[03:53] <cs5> nice
[03:53] <cs5> ty both
[03:53] <waylandbill> I like knetworkmanager as well. Is great with a laptop.
[03:53] <Jahman> hi
[03:53] <ubuntu_> now can someone give me a step by step to a command to mount
[03:53] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:53] <waylandbill> then you'll want to see what is in the /etc/X11  (ls /mnt/etc/X11)
[03:55] <ubuntu_> using ls /mnt/etc/X11. no such file or directory
[03:56] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: did the partition mount okay?
[03:56] <cs5> kinus, do you have any suggestions for a different torrent client other than ktorrent, it stalls constantly, speed sucks, and no options to speak of.
[03:56] <zorglu> !sound
[03:56] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:57] <ubuntu_> no idea. :) .. no out put when i entered the command to mount the partition
[03:57] <kinus> cs5, azureus
[03:57] <kinus> azureus.sourceforge.net
[03:57] <cs5> it runs on wine only? or is there a linux version?
[03:58] <ubuntu_> i tried the mount command .. it says is mounted or /mnt busy . so i guess is mounted
[03:58] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: do "mount" on a line by itself. it will show the mounted paritions.
[03:58] <cs5> nm....lol ic
[03:58] <jhutchins> cs5: There are dozens of torrent clients.
[03:59] <cs5> i love utorrent on windows, but i have been looking at alternatives all night
[03:59] <waylandbill> cs5: stalling probably is not the fault of ktorrent, but the lack of quality peers.
[03:59] <cs5> might run it under wine and see how that goes
[03:59] <kinus> cs5, azureus is written in java and runs natively on linux
[03:59] <cs5> oh there are over 1000 seeds
[03:59] <cs5> and 6000 leeches
[03:59] <ubuntu_> shows /dev/hda2 on /mnt type ext3 .. so i guess is mounted ok
[03:59] <jhutchins> cs5: Doesn't mean there are good seeds.
[03:59] <cs5> true
[04:00] <cs5> got the first 98.3% in 3 hours
[04:00] <cs5> would have been done in 1 under utorrent
[04:00] <cs5> ill try azureus its always been good to me
[04:00] <jhutchins> azureus is the most popular, generally reported to work well.
[04:00] <jhutchins> I've mostly used ktorrent and bittorrentgui.
[04:00] <kinus> azureues is a bit bloated though
[04:01] <kinus> though i guess thats a java problem
[04:01] <kinus> though java6 is quite a bit faster
[04:01] <cs5> slow down, bloated? or just lots of options to find?
[04:01] <waylandbill> ubuntu
[04:01] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: how about ls /mnt/etc
[04:01] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: By default, kubuntu mounts devices as root-only.
[04:01] <jhutchins> This may help:
[04:02] <cs5> thanx again guys
[04:02] <jhutchins> !floppy | ubuntu_
[04:02] <ubotu> ubuntu_: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[04:02] <ubuntu_> using this commnad i get no such file or directory
[04:02] <stdin> jhutchins: by default it's rw
[04:02] <jhutchins> stdin: Yes, for root only
[04:03] <irroc> hello
[04:03] <ubuntu_> just using ls /mnt/etc .. now i got list of stuff in /etc
[04:03] <stdin> jhutchins: no, I meant "rwxr-xr-x"
[04:03] <jhutchins> stdin: You must be running a different distro than I am.
[04:03] <ViciouZ^Laptop> i hate alsa-source :-(
[04:04] <waylandbill> ubuntu_: is X11 one of the entries? note that the X is not x but X. :-)
[04:04] <ubuntu_> OK , NOW i am in X11 folder
[04:04] <kinus> who's trying to install alsa from source? - thats crazy
[04:04] <stdin> jhutchins: no, that's the standard (at least when mounting ext3)
[04:04] <ubuntu_> ihave two xorg.conf .. on with conf~
[04:04] <ubuntu_> one with xorg.conf and other with xorg.conf~
[04:05] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: I'm trying to install the driver for module intel8x0
[04:06] <ViciouZ^Laptop> the log is here: http://pastebin.com/943845
[04:06] <ViciouZ^Laptop> a guide told me to use alsa-source
[04:07] <ubuntu_> now, how can i read the  content of xorg and modify that so i can restore to old default NVIDIA drive ?
[04:07] <kinus> ViciouZ^Laptop, checking your pastebin
[04:08] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: thanks mate :-)
[04:10] <kinus> ViciouZ^Laptop, some problem with memalloc - dunno how to solve it though
[04:10] <ViciouZ^Laptop> kinus: what does memalloc do?
[04:11] <kinus> memory allocation
[04:11] <ViciouZ^Laptop> so could it be a memory problem?
[04:11] <kinus> no, i dont think so
[04:12] <Ayabara> when I compile diskdev_cmds I get an error saying :error: openssl/sha.h: No such file or directory". any helpers?
[04:12] <kinus> line 468 gives a clue
[04:12] <kinus> Ayabara, no sha headers
[04:13] <FroggyTheGreat> Hey hoo
[04:13] <Ayabara> kinus, what is sha?
[04:13] <ViciouZ^Laptop> is there a pre compiled version of intel8x0?
[04:13] <kinus> its a checksum type of thing
[04:14] <kinus> Ayabra, try sudo apt-get install openssl
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> I booted up with a liveCD to try to recover some data from my wife's XP system.  Where would I find the Windows data in the Linux filesystem?
[04:14] <kinus> FroggyTheGreat, you'll need to mount the windows partition
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Ok.  Um.
[04:14] <kinus> !mount | FroggyTheGreat
[04:14] <ubotu> FroggyTheGreat: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:14] <FroggyTheGreat> Thanks.
[04:15] <kinus> np
[04:16] <cs5_> op can you kick my ghost plz.
[04:16] <cs5_> cs5
[04:16] <ubuntu_> i mounted linux partition and need to modify xorg. i am using live cd. can anyone help please. ? using KATE .. i was not able to save it
[04:32] <kinus> ubuntu_, run kate sudo maybe?
[04:32] <cs5_> riddell: could you plz. kill my ghost, its from my disconnected wireless connection
[04:32] <ubuntu_> whats the command ?
[04:32] <michael> Hallo !
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i used sudo Kate . and i got error
[04:32] <kinus> ubuntu_, sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:32] <michael> deutscher channel ?
[04:32] <nalm> hey
[04:32] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu_: when i edit with kate i bring up the kmenu and instead of clicking on kate right click on kate. click put into run dialog. when the run dialog comes up click options then run as diffrent user. the user you want to run as is root. enter your root password in the password block and click ok
[04:32] <michael> Hallo ! wie komme ich in den deutschen channel ?
[04:32] <pag> !de | michael
[04:32] <ubuntu_> do i have to modify xorg.conf using /dev/X11 or /mnt/etc/X11 ?
[04:32] <cs5> riddell: cancel that last request, ty
[04:32] <FroggyTheGreat> Oo, cool, hard drive failure.
[04:32] <cs5> used nickserv
[04:32] <ubuntu_> using live cd , is it possible to revert back to default Nvidia driver ???
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i did install nvidia-glx .. but need to go back so i can boot to KDM
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> ubuntu_: yes
[04:32] <ubuntu_> how
[04:32] <ubuntu_> :)
[04:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy all :)
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> not sure
[04:32] <_tsdgeos> do you have your partition mounted?
[04:32] <ubuntu_> yes
[04:32] <ubuntu_> i just modified xorg , changed from NVIDIA to nv . going to reboot . maybe it works this time
[04:32] <nuxil> Hi all
[04:32] <tsdgeos> ok
[04:32] <nuxil> anyone got some time to help me? i need some help getting my comport working.. i have no idea why its not working..
[04:32] <lebies> hi all, simple question answered please - does beryl work on kubuntu feisty (ATI X1950)?
[04:33] <kinus> lebies, beryl works on pretty much everything
[04:33] <lebies> kinus: tks, im at my wits end trying to get it going, i get the feeling i'm so close - but something is missing and i don't know what !
[04:33] <lebies> i'm about to reinstall ubuntu, and run kde on that!
[04:33] <stoned> NO!
[04:33] <stoned> you have ati and beryl will not work on X
[04:33] <stoned> well, you'll have to use the fglrx drivers afaik and they don't do what they should
[04:33] <stoned> the free drivers do support 3d now, but not on that card you have
[04:33] <lebies> have them installed and running, and they worked on gnome
[04:33] <stoned> I have X1900
[04:33] <stoned> lebies: yeh, you have to use Xgl
[04:33] <stoned> they don't work on X
[04:33] <lebies> yep, doing that too (i think)
[04:33] <stoned> what?
[04:33] <lebies> stoned: Xgl
[04:33] <stoned> oh
[04:33] <lebies> i've followed 2 basic howtos, covering xgl and beryl (on x1900-series)
[04:33] <bronze> Can anyone name the kubuntu alternatives to ubuntu software? File manager, music player etc?
[04:34] <lebies> i can see changes that tell me something is running, but not the way it should be
[04:34] <kinus> bronze, there are great alternatives for everything
[04:34] <kinus> file manager = konqueror
[04:34] <kinus> music player = amarok
[04:34] <lebies> i'm obviously missing something, somewhere
[04:34] <XziizX> Hi all, cam someone help a noob?
[04:36] <XziizX> I have WinXp on c: and will install Kubuntu on K:. Is all I have to do just install and go on?
[04:36] <lebies> and although i'm doing my best to research properly and thouroughly before simply asking here, i seem to be going around in circles
[04:37] <XziizX> anyone?
[04:37] <jrjx> !version
[04:37] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[04:37] <jrjx> That's what I want.
[04:37] <kinus> or uname -a
[04:37] <voidmage> You need to figure out what physical drive K: is on
[04:37] <voidmage> don't know how to do that thogh
[04:38] <XziizX> My k drive is an hole fysical drive. I have just put it in
[04:38] <voidmage> yeah, but you need to know what number it is
[04:38] <voidmage> like sda1, hdb3
[04:38] <voidmage> that kind of thing
[04:38] <XziizX> ok
[04:38] <voidmage> and I don't remember how to do that
[04:39] <voidmage> Maybe you could mount it on a livecd and compare the data
[04:39] <llutz> XziizX: "sudo fdisk -l" and find out which is the right one
[04:40] <Lamington> !ntfs
[04:40] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:40] <Lamington> :D
[04:40] <XziizX> llutzu, I'm on XP now
[04:40] <Lamington> !ntfs-3g
[04:40] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:40] <voidmage> you want to find which physical drive your K:drive is on so you can install it there, right?
[04:40] <lebies> XziizX: if all your other disks are labelled properly, you'll easily pick up which is your new one from your winXP
[04:42] <XziizX> ops their not I think. I have just put them in and installed XP..
[04:42] <XziizX> All I've did was split C: to C: and D:
[04:43] <XziizX> But my main q is if it's pooible to have kubuntu and xp on the same pc?
[04:44] <jrjx> Okay.  lsb_release -a says my release version is 5.10.  When I try to use aptitude to update stuff, it complains that all my repositiries have gone away.  What can / should I do, if anything, while not breaking my known working system?
[04:44] <vzduch> XziizX: of course it is
[04:44] <colo_work> hi all
[04:45] <colo_work> can anyone explain to me how knetworkmanager included in kubuntu 7.04 is supposed to work?
[04:45] <voidmage> colo_work: what are you trying to do?
[04:45] <XziizX> due to that xp is on c: xp will start when I boot?
[04:45] <voidmage> !grub
[04:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:45] <voidmage> jrjx: So you're on breezy right now?
[04:46] <colo_work> voidmage: I'd like to have a listing of available wirless networks to connect to, and klick on one of those to do so (just like networkmanager in GNOME/Ubuntu offers me)
[04:46] <voidmage> colo_work: it should just work like that
[04:46] <voidmage> you should see it in the tray area
[04:46] <colo_work> yeah, I do
[04:46] <dr_willis> someone care to check and see if   http://wibc.com/streaming/streamingpage.aspx    - streams the radio station to them ? cant seem to get it working with linux. :(
[04:46] <colo_work> but I did not find a way yet to list networks
[04:46] <voidmage> click on it?
[04:46] <jrjx> I assume so.  5.10, anyway.  I have a dialup connection tho, not broadband.  And semi-limited disk space, about 120 MB free at this time.
[04:46] <colo_work> there's just "Enable Wireless" and "Disable Wirless"
[04:46] <voidmage> make sure wireless is on
[04:47] <voidmage> jrjx: there's no really easy way to do it. You should probably order dapper and feisty cds
[04:47] <colo_work> no matter if i click left or right, it always pops up the settings menu
[04:47] <voidmage> now it should just work
[04:47] <voidmage> not sure why it's not
[04:47] <colo_work> well, that context menu with "Quit", "Options" et al in it
[04:47] <colo_work> Wireless is enabled
[04:47] <jrjx> And try to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.04, and then from 6.04 to 6.10, and so on and so on?
[04:48] <voidmage> there should be a header for wired and wireless networks
[04:48] <colo_work> however, "Show Networks" gives me a treeview with two emty trees in it
[04:48] <voidmage> and everything in range SHOULD just pop up
[04:48] <HayaBusa> ok guys, I like to thank everyone who help me to fix my nvidia problme. i managed using llive CD to change the xorg so i can boot to kdm .. now the question is , where i can find info on installing nvidia driver on my kubuntu ????
[04:48] <jrjx> (I'm not down on the names, I understand the numeric system better.)
[04:48] <voidmage> you actually need to go breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty
[04:48] <voidmage> I recommend at this point you do a clean install
[04:49] <dr_willis> Egads.. I 2nd that Reccomendation
[04:49] <dr_willis> and 3rd it
[04:49] <jrjx> No good way to backup my personal data, currently.  One, small, disk.  Hopefully at some point I'll have a second drive installed...
[04:49] <colo_work> voidmage: do you use knetworkmanager?
[04:49] <voidmage> That's really the best option.
[04:49] <voidmage> Otherwise you'd have to upgrade 3 times
[04:49] <voidmage> and it could get messy
[04:49] <voidmage> colo_work: yeah and it works fine
[04:50] <jrjx> I understand.  Basically the repositories for 5.10 have been decommissioned, then?
[04:50] <colo_work> voidmage: would you be so kind and provide me with a screenshot where available networks are displayed?
[04:50] <jrjx> (What's the file saying what repositories to use?)
[04:50] <lonewolf_> HEy guys, I'm having a little trouble with most of my apps taht use the internet.
[04:50] <lonewolf_> I can browse the internet, etc
[04:51] <lonewolf_> but all apps taht would require port forwarding dont work, and I'm pretty sure i forwarded the ports right.
[04:51] <lonewolf_> is tehre something else i need to do *inside* the OS?
[04:52] <llutz> lonewolf_: if you haven't installed iptables or similar: no
[04:53] <lonewolf_> llutz there was one field in my router i wasnt sure about. it said "portmap:"
[04:53] <lonewolf_> I was trying to forward port 6881, so my start port i put as 6881, the stop port as 6881, and the port map as 6881
[04:53] <lonewolf_> did i do it wrong llutz?
[04:53] <nuxil> can anyone help me getting my comport working under feisty?
[04:54] <dr_willis> gotta love torrent song and dancing.. :)
[04:54] <dr_willis> nuxil,  you mean your serial port?
[04:54] <nuxil> yep
[04:54] <voidmage> colo_work: http://aeonslair.com/files/knetworkmanager.png
[04:54] <nuxil> i have no idea why i cant get it to work
[04:54] <voidmage> jrjx: but before you upgrade you have to make sure you're up to date
[04:54] <voidmage> honestly, there's no easy way to do it
[04:54] <colo_work> voidmage: 404 over here ;)
[04:54] <voidmage> try now
[04:54] <voidmage> and I still stand by backing up your data, package list, server config files and doing a fresh install of feisty
[04:55] <voidmage> especially since you have dialup, the packages would take weeks to download
[04:55] <voidmage> 3 times.
[04:55] <dr_willis> Oh yea.. how can you get a package list in a format thats easy to like run a script and have it isntall the packages on a 2nd machine anyway?
[04:55] <colo_work> I see, thanks for your efforts. For me, there's no listing, and no menu at all above "Manual Configuration"
[04:55] <dr_willis> hmm.. thats when that aptcacheer ? server/proxy thing is handy.
[04:55] <dr_willis> !find aptcache
[04:56] <ubotu> Package/file aptcache does not exist in feisty
[04:56] <voidmage> dpkg --get-selections > packagelist
[04:56] <Extrapan> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <jrjx> Void: No, I fully understand, and agree.  I guess I'll leave well enough alone until I get (1) a second drive (or some other means of backup, maybe a USB flash drive), and (2) either CDs and/or broadband.  It won't kill me to be running old apps.
[04:58] <ViciouZ^Laptop> !sis
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <ViciouZ^Laptop> darnit
[04:58] <nuxil> dr_willis, can you help?
[04:59] <nuxil> http://pastebin.ca/607340
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I installed vmware server, but it doesn't do what i want , so what's the best way to uninstall it ?
[04:59] <dr_willis> nuxil,  whats the issue? heh let me look
[05:00] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  what does you want?
[05:00] <nuxil> i get no input on the com|serial port
[05:00] <cs5> can anyone help me. I xkilled my whole desktop by accident
[05:00] <nuxil> its like its not there.
[05:00] <PhinnFort> cs5: run "kdesktop" somewhere?
[05:00] <nuxil> even thos the kernel sees it as enabled in bios
[05:00] <HayaBusa> checkig the link, it say to install i have to use syste- administration -restricted device manger. but that is not avalible in kubuntu ? right ????
[05:00] <HayaBusa> instruction is for Ubuntu
[05:00] <voidmage> Latency112: please don't PM me
[05:01] <Latency112> voidmage: apologies. Nobody was responding though =/
[05:01] <dr_willis> nuxil,  what do you got connected to the serial port?
[05:01] <nuxil> a irled
[05:01] <nuxil> it works fine,, i tested it on another oc
[05:01] <nuxil> *pc
[05:03] <nuxil> dr_willis, im trying to get my remote controll working,, it needs no extra kernel module to work. it sends raw data on com port. staring lircd and using eigther cat or irw should show me signal.. but it dosent.
[05:04] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, the vmware server doesn't support any sound cards
[05:04] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  huh? i get sound from mine.
[05:04] <dr_willis> i have to add the soundcard to a vmware machine, they are not enabled by default.
[05:05] <dr_willis> nuxil,  hmm.. could be a tty/serial/baud/parity setting.. hard to tell.. been years since ive messed with serial ports.
[05:06] <Latency112> is anyone free to help?  I've been sat here for 20 minutes >.<
[05:06] <nuxil> hmm
[05:06] <BluesKaj> i'm running the free vmware server dr_willis
[05:07] <BluesKaj> not the workstation
[05:07] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  thats what i use.. I get sound on all the live cd's i test
[05:07] <jrjx> Latency: You might need to repeat if the question scrolled off everyone's screen.  But don't spam people either.
[05:07] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you just have to add a 'sound card' to the vmware-session/settings for the vitrual machine.
[05:07] <BluesKaj> I have no recognized soundcard or drivers and tried several installs
[05:08] <Ace2016> vmware sucks, virtualbox is the best
[05:09] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you say you have been using the  settings dialog in vmware, where you can set the hard drive. cdrom iso image, and so forth, and adding a Sound card?
[05:09] <dr_willis> Ace2016,  i find the exxact opposite to be true.
[05:09] <dr_willis> NOT adding a card in the OS.. it has to bee added to the vmware settings befor ya run the OS.
[05:09] <llutz> "sucks vs. best"-postings suck
[05:10] <BluesKaj> the add button is greyed out , dr_willis
[05:10] <dr_willis> i have had very little luck with virtualbox and the livecd's i test.
[05:10] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  now thats odd..
[05:10] <dr_willis> try making a new vmware 'machine'
[05:11] <Latency112>  Excuse me, I'm having trouble forwarding ports on my Router. I'm trying to forward port 6881, (Ktorrent) and my router asks for 3 things. start port, end port, and portmap.  I set them all as 6881. Am I doing something wroing?
[05:12] <cs5> phinnfort: TY, phew.
[05:12] <PhinnFort> np
[05:12] <dr_willis> Latency112,  is this a fairly new router? does it have upnp support?
[05:12] <voidmage> Latency112: maybe portmap should be your lan ip address?
[05:13] <dr_willis> if it does.. you can enable the upnp feature of ktorrent and the router 'should' auto-forward
[05:13] <BluesKaj> ok, I found it dr_willis ...gonna test it out
[05:13] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  :)
[05:14] <voidmage> how does ktorrent compare to utorrent?
[05:14] <Ace2016> I like azureus for torrents, it has a nicer interface
[05:14] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  what i havent found is a way to save a default settings file
[05:14] <Latency112> voidmage: hmmm Perhaps. I'll check teh pre-set rules and see how they are done.
[05:14] <dr_willis> voidmage,  i use ktorrent all the time. I perfer it to utorrent now a days
[05:14] <cs5> dr_willis: do you know any plug-ins for ktorrent to give more functionality in the options?
[05:14] <cs5> or am i stuck with the default plugins only?
[05:14] <dr_willis> cs5,  what functionalyty? theres a lot of plugins allready.
[05:14] <dr_willis> I cant even think of anything else i need.
[05:15] <cs5> I want it to be more like utorrent is I miss the control
[05:15] <cs5> encrypting outgoing traffic is a biggy
[05:16] <dr_willis> Theres a encrypt checkbox i recall...
[05:16] <cs5> i will look again, but i didnt see it on the first few checks through
[05:17] <dr_willis> settings ktorrent - > general tab . at the bottom
[05:18] <cs5> ty
[05:21] <irroc> using kubu as live cd; if i download gxine will i be able to watch video for yahoo
[05:21] <irroc> using kubu as live cd; if i download gxine will i be able to watch video from yahoo
[05:21] <dr_willis> depends on what yahoo videos formats are in.
[05:21] <dr_willis> and you mayneed some extra codec files also.
[05:21] <dr_willis> so i would bet. it may be a bit harder then it looks.
[05:22] <Nyle> hey
[05:22] <dr_willis> got a url to a yahoo video? i can check its format
[05:22] <Nyle> I need  some good games to play
[05:22] <irroc> let me check
[05:22] <Nyle> like 3d game with good  graphics
[05:22] <cs5> happypenguin
[05:22] <cs5> good site
[05:22] <irroc> will look for link but its usually embedded in their page
[05:22] <cs5> for games
[05:22] <irroc> back in a few
[05:23] <Nyle> it only has screenshots of the games in the update
[05:24] <Latency112> Does linux come witha  software firewall?
[05:24] <dr_willis> Nyle,  a new versiion of 'WarSow' came out last week.
[05:24] <dr_willis> !firewall
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[05:24] <Latency112> by linux i mean ubunto ofc.
[05:24] <dr_willis> Latency112,  yes. :)
[05:24] <Latency112> ok thanks
[05:24] <FroggyTheGreat> So is it normal for the gnome partition tool to sit forever "scanning all devices" when running a livecd?
[05:24] <Latency112> Will i need to change anthing dr_willis In order to allow Ktorrent access?
[05:25] <Nicotin1> Latency112: happy holidays with learning iptables))
[05:25] <Latency112> Nicotin1: this looks scary :(
[05:25] <dr_willis> Latency112,  its disabled by default.
[05:25] <whippy> how can i change the application with opens a file type?
[05:25] <whippy> for example i am surfing through de web,
[05:26] <dr_willis> Latency112,  which is to say theres no firewalling RULES enabled by default.
[05:26] <Latency112> dr_willis: What is? Ktorrent? or Iptables?
[05:26] <dr_willis> ktorrent works fine. :)
[05:26] <whippy> and want to listen to a webradio
[05:26] <dr_willis> this aint windows.. heh
[05:26] <whippy> and klick on .pls file type,
[05:26] <Latency112> dr_willis: My ports are forwarded 100% correctly and im 100% sure of taht.
[05:26] <whippy> and dont wont to open it with audacious,
[05:26] <Latency112> however, Ktorrent still wont get a connection.
[05:26] <whippy> i want to open it with xmms
[05:26] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, i managed to add the soundcard but i'd also like to add my KB so that the mute and volume buttons work but the add option in settings is greyed out and i cna't seem to get it to reset ...what's the trick ?
[05:27] <irroc> yahoo
[05:28] <FroggyTheGreat> So I'm trying Gnome's partition manager to get this bloody windows partition to mount via kubuntu livecd.  How fast should it scan all the devices?  I'm going on 5 minutes with no resolution.
[05:29] <yaccin> why is a bug in the kopete-version from feisty that was already fixed in dapper or edgy?
[05:29] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  no idea on the keyboard.
[05:29] <irroc> dr_willis: real easy solution; went to site and asked me to install macromedia which i did; then it worked fine; wow this kubu ubun is wonderful
[05:29] <dr_willis> whippy,  i download/save the pls files and  just rightclick/open with.. on them
[05:29] <BluesKaj> yeah but why are the add options greyed out ?
[05:30] <dr_willis> irroc,  you actually wen tot the macromedia site? gee..i use the pakcage manager for that.. dont need to go to their site.
[05:30] <dr_willis> :)
[05:30] <dr_willis> Im suprised the one from their site even worked.
[05:30] <yaccin> ??
[05:30] <dr_willis> !macromedia
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macromedia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:30] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[05:30] <FroggyTheGreat> Is there a shockwave player yet?  :P
[05:30] <whippy> @dr_wills yeah,
[05:31] <whippy> but i have to do this for every single file,
[05:31] <whippy> i removed audacious
[05:31] <yaccin> Why do i have an old bug in the Feisty-Version of Kopete, when it was fixed months ago???
[05:31] <binks> has anyone got kaffeine0.8.4 working on feisty
[05:31] <whippy> and xmms, doesnt wants to open it automatically from the browser
[05:31] <llutz> yaccin: ask devs
[05:31] <whippy> it say's it cant find the
[05:31] <yaccin> llutz: where?
[05:31] <irroc> dr_willis: yes that is what i mean; it took me to adept steps itself; i did not have to do really anything
[05:32] <whippy> the asscociated helper application does not exist.
[05:32] <llutz> yaccin: launchpad
[05:32] <irroc> yes it was macromedia
[05:32] <yaccin> i dont know anything about launchpad
[05:33] <llutz> https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[05:36] <yaccin> it says there that the bug is fixed
[05:36] <yaccin> :(
[05:36] <FroggyTheGreat> So what does it generally mean when the gnome partition tool on a Kubuntu livecd can't actually finish scanning the devices, but keeps on in perpetuity?
[05:37] <dr_willis> i would guess... the system is hung...
[05:37] <yaccin> "fixed upstream as of 06/08/2007"
[05:37] <yaccin> but its still there :(
[05:37] <dr_willis> or the hd is flakey.
[05:37] <FroggyTheGreat> Anything else I can try if the hd is flaky?
[05:37] <spheard> Hi, how do I change the swap partition?
[05:37] <dr_willis> is there impornt data on it?
[05:37] <dr_willis> spheard,  change it to what?
[05:38] <spheard> another partition
[05:38] <FroggyTheGreat> My wife's e-mail, which is important data...
[05:38] <dr_willis> make a swap partition on the other hd. mkswap /dev/whateveritis, add proper fstab entry,
[05:38] <dr_willis> FroggyTheGreat,   gpartd hung while scanning the disks, not while changeing the disks ?
[05:38] <FroggyTheGreat> Correct
[05:39] <dr_willis> I would use a live cd, and  mount the hd's and backup the imporntant information somewhere.
[05:39] <spheard> dr_willis, I already have the partition. Its the proper fstab entry thats worrying me. Whats the UUID?
[05:39] <dr_willis> Its possible that the hd needs to be scandisked from windows, and defragged. which might fix it.
[05:39] <dr_willis> spheard,  you really dont need to use the uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> but if you WANT the uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[05:39] <dr_willis> shows them
[05:39] <tobstarr> hi
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> I'm trying to mount the hd so I can back up the info, that's the problem.
[05:40] <spheard> niiiice thanks
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> I can't get it to mount, either with the KDE or the Gnome tooll
[05:40] <rrichie> hi all
[05:40] <rrichie> still no kde4 ubuntu packages?
[05:40] <dr_willis> FroggyTheGreat,  thats when mounting from the shell is the defacto wya to mount :)
[05:40] <dr_willis> rrichie,  not for several months - would be my guess
[05:40] <tobstarr> I am trying to use skype
[05:40] <FroggyTheGreat> What's the syntax?
[05:40] <dr_willis> since kde4 isent even veryuseable at this time
[05:40] <tobstarr> but my voice is distorted
[05:40] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:40] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem.  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:47] <ax1s> bye
[05:47] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:47] <ax1s> fags
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> that's someone who we don't need using kubuntu
[05:47] <llutz> teenage-day today?
[05:47] <Nyle> I'm hungry
[05:48] <Daisuke_Ido> and with the influx of windows users, we're going to get more and more like that.
[05:48] <Nyle> I am wondering if i should make an omlete of french toast
[05:48] <Nyle> er.. or*
[05:48] <Nyle> yeh omlete is good i guess
[05:48] <Nicotin1> really..... how can you type so fast...
[05:49] <PhinnFort> abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
[05:49] <Nicotin1> wow..
[05:49] <Nicotin1> PhinnFort, connection test?))
[05:49] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:51] <Nicotin1> does somebody know, how can I point message to somebody?
[05:51] <voidmage> put their name in the message
[05:51] <voidmage> usually their highlight picks it up
[05:51] <binks> anyone heard of xine-lib
[05:52] <Nicotin1> voidmage, yeah... good idea)) but it is nessesary to write him/her nickname by hands))
[05:52] <voidmage> tab completion.
[05:53] <PhinnFort> binks: who hasn't?
[05:53] <Nicotin1> voidmage: wow... thank's a lot)
[05:55] <Nicotin1> binks: have some general questions?))
[05:55] <lagarino> hello
[05:55] <cs5> i know you guys go through this more than anything, but could someone help me setup my fsdisk properly for mounting my ntfs partition? I have it in fsdisk already but it says only root can mount this device.
[05:56] <lagarino> could anybody help me with usb interfaces with java?
[05:56] <BlackBsd> hi how do get my bluetooth to work on my laptop??  do i have to enable some daemon?
[05:56] <voidmage> systemsettings->bluetooth
[05:56] <Nicotin1> cs5: type sudo -s, and reply mount command...
[05:56] <BlackBsd> cs5 use sudo
[05:57] <lagarino> what library should I use to use usb devices in java code?
[05:57] <cs5> so i need to sudo mount manually each time even with my fsdisk setup?
[05:57] <BlackBsd> what is fsdisk?
[05:57] <BlackBsd> you mean fdisk
[05:57] <cs5> fdisk sry
[05:57] <cs5> yes
[05:57] <cs5> lol
[05:58] <BlackBsd> you can fun fdisk from the command line   "sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[05:58] <BlackBsd> "
[05:58] <BlackBsd> and you dont use fdisk to mount the devices
[05:58] <BlackBsd> you can use mount
[05:58] <BlackBsd> fdisk is used to minipulate the partition table
[05:58] <cs5> ah ic
[05:59] <BlackBsd> thats pretty much all it does
[05:59] <cs5> ok
[05:59] <BlackBsd> are you needing to mount a windows drive?
[05:59] <cs5> yes
[05:59] <cs5> i have user options set in fdisk for it, should i remove those entries
[05:59] <Nicotin1> mount -t ntfs -o ro /dev/devname /media/folder))
[05:59] <Nicotin1> or somethig like this))
[05:59] <BlackBsd> you can put that information in the /etc/fstab
[06:00] <Nicotin1> BlackBsd: does kubuntu supports ntfs?
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs
[06:00] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:00] <llutz> !ntfs-3g
[06:00] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:00] <PhinnFort> Nicotin1: yes
[06:00] <BlackBsd> but normally it might look something like this "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows"
[06:01] <Nicotin1> BlackBsd: yeah))
[06:01] <cs5> i have to mkdir first though right?
[06:01] <Nicotin1> llutz: thanks)) that was a general question))) I really don't need ntfs or fat))
[06:02] <BlackBsd> or you can use fuse which is probally the better way to go anyways
[06:02] <BlackBsd> but you dont need to do anything with fdisk if the windows partition is already there
[06:02] <BlackBsd> do you have an idea where you want to mount the drive?
[06:02] <BlackBsd> such as /mnt/win  or /mnt/whatever
[06:03] <cs5> blackbsd: was that to me?
[06:04] <BlackBsd> yes
[06:04] <java1> any adept experts out there
[06:04] <cs5> blackbsd: yes i was thinking /media/linshard
[06:05] <BlackBsd> normally i have my windows drives mounted on my linux file system at /mnt/win
[06:05] <BlackBsd> but you can put it anywhere you want to
[06:05] <cs5> or something to be able to save to and share with my linux
[06:05] <BlackBsd> just make sure the directory is not being used already
[06:05] <BlackBsd> technically you can mount over a directory that is already populated but thats another subject
[06:05] <cs5> will i have access to other files and folders already on windows?
[06:05] <BlackBsd> that would work also
[06:06] <BlackBsd> you should follow lutz and use the links he/she gave..
[06:06] <java1> adept failed to fully install a package and now will not not relaunch since it thinks the database is still being used
[06:06] <BlackBsd> fuse is a good peice of software
[06:06] <llutz> BlackBsd: he :)
[06:06] <PhinnFort> !adeptfix | java1
[06:06] <BlackBsd> yes
[06:07] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[06:07] <BlackBsd> with fuse you can even write to the windows drive
[06:07] <BlackBsd> without fuse you can only read
[06:07] <cs5> i am currently doing so. Good thing i love reading
[06:07] <PhinnFort> with fuse you can use GMail as a disk partition
[06:07] <ubotu> java1: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:07] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:07] <cs5> really? Nice
[06:07] <PhinnFort> gmailfs
[06:07] <PhinnFort> !find gmailfs
[06:07] <ubotu> Found: gmailfs
[06:08] <BlackBsd> phinnfort, i did not know that.  thats sweet
[06:08] <PhinnFort> !info gmailfs
[06:08] <ubotu> gmailfs: Use your GMail account as a filesystem. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.7.2-2 (feisty), package size 24 kB, installed size 156 kB
[06:08] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:08] <binks> PhinnFort: sorry i found it in ubuntu its called libxine not xine-lib
[06:08] <BlackBsd> does anyone have bluetooth working??
[06:08] <PhinnFort> binks: oh, ok
[06:08] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: I'm going to when I buy myself a new laptop;)
[06:09] <BlackBsd> i got that dell lappy before the linux was being put on it and mine came with internal bluetooth
[06:10] <BlackBsd> just wondered if kubuntu automaticly had it working
[06:10] <maverick_> yeah
[06:10] <PhinnFort> Black'
[06:10] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: I think it should
[06:10] <maverick_> blackbsd: it works out of the box
[06:11] <BlackBsd> i have been trying to get it to work, should i start a service or something?
[06:11] <PhinnFort> BlackBsd: bluez?
[06:11] <PhinnFort> !bluetooth
[06:11] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:11] <BlackBsd> thank you...
[06:11] <PhinnFort> voila
[06:11] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:12] <java1> thanks uboto worked great.
[06:13] <Darkrift> what would be the best wifi cracking tools to use?
[06:13] <PhinnFort> java1: he's a 'bot
[06:13] <PhinnFort> giyf
[06:13] <PhinnFort> haven't bothered with that since ages ago
[06:14] <Darkrift> my internet is gonna be down for 2 days, and i wanna connect to one of the ones near me
[06:14] <Darkrift> lol
[06:14] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:14] <BlackBsd> pirate...
[06:14] <BlackBsd> :-P
[06:14] <PhinnFort> "do what you will 'cause a pirate is free..."
[06:14] <PhinnFort> ;P
[06:14] <Darkrift> :)
[06:15] <PhinnFort> http://www.ciscopress.com/articles/article.asp?p=370636&rl=1
[06:15] <BlackBsd> anyone see transformers?
[06:15] <BlackBsd> i really liked it
[06:15] <PhinnFort> I heard it sucked bollocks
[06:16] <PhinnFort> was made to cater teenagers that wasn't even born when transformers was "in"
[06:16] <PhinnFort> but, I haven't seen it, no;)
[06:16] <BlackBsd> lol
[06:16] <visham> hi folks
[06:16] <BlackBsd> i think it was the biggest money maker this summer so far..
[06:16] <PhinnFort> !hi | visham
[06:16] <ubotu> visham: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:17] <visham> !hi | PhinnFort
[06:17] <ubotu> PhinnFort: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[06:17] <PhinnFort> thanks, thanks
[06:17] <visham> thanks
[06:17] <visham> PhinnFort
[06:17] <PhinnFort> yeah, no problem
[06:18] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: look at what they include in mpentoo, http://www.pentoo.ch/-Tools-List-.html
[06:18] <PhinnFort> airsnort, aircrack, etc.
[06:18] <PhinnFort> wepcrack
[06:18] <PhinnFort> http://www.windowsecurity.com/whitepapers/Wireless-Cracking-Tools.html
[06:18] <visham> PhinnFort u use nmap?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> visham: when needed, yes
[06:18] <visham> i got some problem with it
[06:18] <PhinnFort> but not obsessively
[06:18] <PhinnFort> visham: tried running it as root?
[06:18] <PhinnFort> sudo nmap
[06:19] <visham> the command nmap -sS -T4 -O <host>
[06:19] <visham> freezes my modem or my ehternet card
[06:19] <visham> i can figure out
[06:19] <visham> i cant figure out
[06:19] <PhinnFort> visham: intensive traffic?
[06:19] <PhinnFort> visham: try trotthling it more
[06:20] <visham> PhinnFort like T!
[06:20] <visham> PhinnFort like T1
[06:20] <PhinnFort> yeah
[06:20] <visham> but it isn't able to handle T4 then how can it handle T1 ?
[06:20] <PhinnFort> visham: higher is faster
[06:21] <visham> PhinnFort ya i know that
[06:21] <visham> PhinnFort faster == more traffic ?
[06:21] <PhinnFort> visham: yeah
[06:22] <visham> PhinnFort then if T4 can't be handled by the modem then how can it handle T1
[06:22] <PhinnFort> visham: T1 is less traffic than T4
[06:24] <visham> trying it right now
[06:26] <visham> PhinnFort thanks its kinda working now
[06:26] <PhinnFort> yw
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort will be confirmed after a few test runs
[06:27] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort actually its running pretty well at T#
[06:27] <visham> PhinnFort actually its running pretty well at T3
[06:27] <PhinnFort> nice
[06:27] <nicotin_e> fantasy....... so various ip-adresses.... from all over the world...
[06:28] <dewitt> I would like to become more familiar with teminal commands, is there a site to help
[06:28] <Darkrift> nobody here has ever cracked thier way into a wifi network?
[06:28] <PhinnFort> !shell
[06:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[06:29] <dewitt> Ty
[06:29] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: I set up a laptop displaying all pictures sent over an encrypted wireless network once
[06:29] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: on a high-school
[06:29] <PhinnFort> I have truly seen the darkness of the depths of the human soul
[06:30] <dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <PhinnFort> ;)
[06:30] <Darkrift> nice
[06:30] <nicotin_e> (07:29:57 PM) PhinnFort: ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[06:30] <Darkrift> im looking more into just connecting to the ap
[06:30] <Darkrift> not in stealing or peaking at thier info
[06:30] <Darkrift> just barrowing the connection for  a few hours
[06:30] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: That's high-school, though. Wait until you see some of the things they look at in college.
[06:30] <shub_> hello every1
[06:31] <shub_> first time using kubuntu
[06:31] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: just set up a laptop to capture packets, and when you have enough run them through appropriate cracker
[06:31] <dr_willis> alt.binary.drunken.idiots.erotica
[06:31] <dr_willis> :)
[06:31] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: :D
[06:31] <TeraDyne> shub_: How do you like Kubuntu so far?
[06:31] <shub_> can som1 help me wth installin programs on kubuntu 7.10
[06:31] <shub_> looks wicked
[06:32] <nicotin_e> shub_: looks nice))))
[06:32] <dr_willis> I tend to use the 'add/remove programs' icon :)
[06:32] <shub_> i try tht
[06:32] <ninHer> Adept for instance
[06:32] <PhinnFort> Darkrift: capture with airsnort or something
[06:32] <shub_> bt i van only remove
[06:32] <shub_> cant install anythng
[06:33] <jean__> Hello?
[06:33] <shub_> it dnt let me install anything
[06:33] <shub_> i can remove it
[06:33] <shub_> pro
[06:33] <nicotin_e> shub_: are you using synaptic?
[06:33] <dr_willis> !enter
[06:33] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:33] <shub_> no
[06:33] <dr_willis> you may need to 'update' the repositorie cache first .
[06:34] <MrJean> I'm now to IRC. How can I join the channel for Ubuntu? (Not Kubuntu)
[06:34] <shub_> repositorie cache first ?/
[06:34] <shub_> whatss that
[06:34] <ninHer> shub how are you trying to  install programs ?
[06:34] <shub_> im compelet newbii
[06:34] <shub_> using the add and remove program
[06:34] <nicotin_e> shub_: try something like this at konsole... "sudo apt-cache update "
[06:35] <CrunchyFerrett> ... Is it strange that I dont have an X11.conf ?
[06:35] <shub_> i like to install a codec pack
[06:35] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: xorg.conf?
[06:35] <shub_> s i can play my avi divx fils
[06:35] <PhinnFort> Cugel:
[06:35] <MrJean> How can I join the channel for the normal Ubuntu?
[06:35] <PhinnFort> Cugel: sorry, ignore please
[06:35] <andreas_> german channel ?
[06:35] <PhinnFort> !de
[06:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:35] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort: Yeah, Xorg.conf sorry
[06:35] <MrJean> Yes
[06:35] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: ubuntu's version of Xorg is patched so it doesn't need xorg.conf
[06:35] <MrJean> ty
[06:36] <CrunchyFerrett> oh.
[06:36] <nicotin_e> shub_: just do "sudo apt-get update" and then run "sudo apt-get instal mplayer"
[06:36] <MrJean> #ubuntu-de
[06:36] <MrJean> hoops^^
[06:36] <vzduch> MrJean: /join #ubuntu
[06:36] <MrJean> ty
[06:36] <dhq> is there any way i can make my konsole transparent
[06:36] <MrJean> bye
[06:36] <dr_willis> dhq,  true transparancy, or just showing the Background wallpaper. :)
[06:37] <nicotin_e> dr_willis: I think dhq wants bg wallpaper))
[06:37] <dhq> dr_willis, true transparency
[06:37] <nicotin_e> oops..
[06:37] <dhq> dr_willis, without the borders
[06:37] <brightedge> afternoon :)
[06:37] <visham_> PhinnFort the normal mode (-T3) again freezes the modem
[06:37] <dr_willis> dhq,  and the point of this is? :)
[06:38] <dr_willis> dhq,  may have to do some work for that. Not sure how to do it without that beryl/compqiz stuff.. that may be the only way
[06:38] <visham_> PhinnFort and i'm impatient enough to not to go to -T2
[06:38] <dhq> dr_willis, well i was reading somewhere that it is possible
[06:38] <PhinnFort> visham_: I'm no networkings expert, sorry;)
[06:38] <visham_> i cant to things that slow
[06:38] <dhq> dr_willis, well can you help me or link me
[06:38] <PhinnFort> visham_: I would fool around a bit with the settings on the modem, but I don't really know what
[06:39] <dr_willis> dhq,  just showing the background is rather easy.. having TRUE transparancey is harder.. and i find it useless.. so i dont use it.
[06:39] <visham_> PhinnFort anyone u suggest
[06:39] <brightedge> Wonder if someone could offer some pointers...  I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 Desktop, and would like to run Zenoss.  The Zenoss site states that it runs on the Server version.  Is there a way to upgrade Kubuntu Desktop to Server?
[06:39] <PhinnFort> visham_: dunno... try #nmap or something
[06:39] <dhq> dr_willis, do you know how can i do it
[06:39] <PhinnFort> brightedge: Ubuntu Server is just Kubuntu without KDE, afaik
[06:39] <visham_> PhinnFort anyone on this channel
[06:39] <PhinnFort> !server
[06:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[06:39] <PhinnFort> visham_: dunno
[06:40] <dhq> !kde4
[06:40] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[06:40] <dr_willis> dhq,  id have to google/check the wiki/forums for compiz.. good luck.
[06:40] <dr_willis> !compwiz
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compwiz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <PhinnFort> "not some time yet" = crap
[06:40] <PhinnFort> a couple of months
[06:40] <dr_willis> Hmm.
[06:40] <brightedge> Thanks everyone.  Since I'm a linux b00n, I would like to stick with KDE.  Is it possible to run KDE on a server?
[06:40] <dhq> dr_willis, well is kde4 beta out
[06:40] <PhinnFort> kde 4 alpha 2 is out
[06:40] <dr_willis> kde4 is BARELY in a beta stage
[06:41] <dr_willis> yea alpha is better term
[06:41] <PhinnFort> *not
[06:41] <dhq> dr_willis, well so it is not yet stable :( when will it be out
[06:41] <dr_willis> seen a livecd with kde4 on it.. it.. dident work.
[06:41] <dr_willis> when its done.
[06:41] <PhinnFort> at least that's what the official kde statement said
[06:41] <PhinnFort> dhq: there's a release schedule somewhere
[06:41] <shub_> guys can someone point me right direction where i can get user guide for newbi for kubuntu
[06:41] <shub_> plz
[06:41] <dr_willis> kubuntu homepage ?
[06:42] <brightedge> http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[06:42] <ubunturos> shub_: what sort of a guide are you looking for
[06:42] <ubunturos> ?
[06:42] <DarkED> is anyone here using compiz-fusion with k7.04?
[06:42] <dr_willis> would be the first place to look. and the bookmarks in the browser.
[06:42] <PhinnFort> dhq: "KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment software. A release date has been scheduled for 23 October 2007.[1] "
[06:42] <PhinnFort> from wikipedia
[06:43] <dhq> PhinnFort, long time more to gooo i cant wait
[06:43] <ubunturos> umm, so Kubuntu 7.04 probably won't have it
[06:43] <PhinnFort> dhq: ;)
[06:43] <shub_> ok can i ask a question
[06:43] <ubunturos> eeks 7.10
[06:43] <shub_> its might sound stupd
[06:43] <ubunturos> shub_: if it might, try searching using a search engine
[06:43] <nicotin_e> DarkED: bad experience with installng compiz.... but beryl is working...
[06:43] <dhq> shub_,just ask the question no need to request
[06:43] <shub_> dos kubuntu works like windows
[06:43] <TeraDyne> ubunturos: Neither Gutsy nor Gutsy+1 will have it according to Riddell
[06:44] <ubunturos> TeraDyne: umm ...
[06:44] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: that's not what anonuncements ay
[06:44] <brightedge> shub_:  being a windows native and kubuntu b00n, I can say that it's similar, but not exactly like win
[06:44] <shub_> o oki
[06:44] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: That's what he said at aKademy.
[06:44] <ubunturos> shub_: and don't expect Linux to become equal to Windows
[06:44] <brightedge> shub_:  try booting your pc using the live cd, and see what I mean
[06:44] <ubunturos> shub_: rather, you can customize it for you to use it easily
[06:45] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: there will be packages available, but not default?
[06:45] <shub_> its nice i like it
[06:45] <PhinnFort> or?
[06:45] <shub_> its loks betta then windows
[06:45] <dhq> shub_, ubuntu will always have 10 times upper hand compared to windows and it is free
[06:45] <PhinnFort> that's what I meant
[06:45] <shub_> wrks better
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: :)
[06:45] <shub_> bt u knw im compelet newbi
[06:45] <shub_> never use kubuntu
[06:45] <shub_> first time
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: well, start exploring the Help file
[06:45] <dr_willis> !enter
[06:45] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:45] <ubunturos> shub_: open Konqueror
[06:46] <dhq> shub_, you will learn stick around read forums and the user guide you will have kubuntu in your fingers
[06:46] <ubunturos> shub_: it should be the second icon the task bar. You can click the Help file link on the home page of konqueror
[06:46] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: that it won't be in by default. He never mentioned anything about extra repos, but you know that there will be some.
[06:46] <RivaeAerya> how do you set sounds in kde for window actions? (like minimizing)
[06:46] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  theres a control panel icon that does that
[06:46] <shub_> ok
[06:46] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: from what I've heard/read, there will be "official" kde4 packages available for Gutsy
[06:46] <nich0s> Hey allz, does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to switch desktops?
[06:46] <shub_> let me try to find it
[06:46] <shub_> loll
[06:46] <RivaeAerya> dr_willis: which one?
[06:46] <brightedge> Again, thanks for your help.  I'm going to check out the server channel
[06:47] <dr_willis> RivaeAerya,  no idea.. proberly says sound, or feedback, or somthing :)
[06:47] <dr_willis> i disable all that junk on a new install
[06:47] <RivaeAerya> found it
[06:47] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: I didn't hear anything about that. It's good to know, though.
[06:47] <dr_willis> right where you would expect it to be.. :)
[06:48] <PhinnFort> TeraDyne: well, I wasn't even at akademy, but that's what I picked up;)
[06:48] <shub_> ok i got it
[06:48] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: There are videos up on the aKademy website.
[06:48] <ubunturos> nich0s: Ctrl + Fx key where x is the desktop you want to go
[06:48] <nich0s> ubunturos: Thanks
[06:48] <ubunturos> nich0s: :)
[06:49] <PhinnFort> smplayer is schweet
[06:49] <ubunturos> shub_: from India?
[06:49] <shub_> uk
[06:49] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: http://akademy.kde.org/conference/programme.php < The little video icons are links to the ogg\Theora vidoes of the talks.
[06:49] <PhinnFort> nice
[06:49] <PhinnFort> thanks
[06:50] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: Riddell's talk is near the bottom of the page.
[06:50] <shub_> wer u frm
[06:50] <PhinnFort> thanks
[06:50] <TeraDyne> PhinnFort: yw
[06:50] <Nyle> hey
[06:50] <Nyle> how do i get direct rendering
[06:50] <lamlurkey> how do i creat a missing file in "/ect/" Kppp says it can be empty
[06:51] <ubunturos> shub_: India. Your nick appeared to have a indian touch ;)
[06:51] <Nyle> i'm using fglrx and glxinfo says i have indirect rendering
[06:51] <shub_> lol
[06:51] <Nyle> direct rendering: No
[06:51] <ubunturos> shub_: and surprisingly, you are using SMS words
[06:51] <Nyle> any help
[06:51] <dhq> dr_willis, i have a konsole open window i dont want it to be displayed in the taks bar what do i do
[06:51] <shub_> loll
[06:51] <shub_> wel u know
[06:51] <shub_> im use to msn
[06:51] <dr_willis> dhq,  explore the 'taskbar' settings :)
[06:52] <ubunturos> shub_: ah, I see
[06:52] <shub_> but trying something new
[06:52] <ubunturos> shub_: umm. Great!  I mentioned it earlier. :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> half the work - is asking a proper question.
[06:52] <nich0s> ubunturos: Do you know where I can just get a list of the Keyboard shortcuts for KDE?
[06:53] <shub_> o oki
[06:53] <shub_> im orignly from india
[06:53] <shub_> but living in uk
[06:53] <dr_willis> nich0s,  look at the control panel applet for them. i always change a few around.
[06:53] <ubunturos> nich0s: KDE user guide
[06:53] <dr_willis> nich0s,  may be a list in the kde guide/help somewhere.
[06:54] <dr_willis> but its all so changeable.. its  hard to have a definitive list
[06:54] <gumjo> I had no idea, they had something like akademy....wonder if they show any interested kde4 features
[06:54] <ubunturos> shub_: ah, there you go!
[06:54] <shub_> lol
[06:55] <ubunturos> shub_: have you installed Kubuntu or on the LIVE CD?
[06:55] <vzduch> gumjo: 'interested KDE4 features'? what are the features interested in? :D
[06:55] <Nyle> anyone
[06:55] <TeraDyne> XD
[06:55] <vzduch> !anyone | Nyle
[06:55] <ubotu> Nyle: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."   Dual boot?
[06:56] <shub_> nope
[06:56] <shub_> single
[06:56] <ubunturos> shub_: umm
[06:56] <shub_> just kubuntu
[06:56] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort: How then am I supposed to add lines to Xorg.conf, as I am instructed by the README?
[06:56] <shub_> i couldnt make dual boot
[06:56] <PhinnFort> CrunchyFerrett: run the following to get a new one: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[06:56] <dr_willis> im glad my ati cards never seem to give me this hassle.
[06:57] <dr_willis> rember - theres always a dozen ways to do the same thing in linux.
[06:57] <CrunchyFerrett> and it wont kill anything else?
[06:57] <dr_willis> also rember. it pays to backup config files befor tweaking them
[06:58] <vzduch> PhinnFort, CrunchyFerrett: the -phigh option will likely mess up some settings in xorg.conf, e.g. keyboard layout if you use anything other than en_US
[06:58] <shub_> ubunturos where about in india u form
[06:58] <shub_> from8
[06:58] <PhinnFort> vzduch: I just copied from my xorg.conf file, where it said to run that to regenerate it
[06:59] <dhq> dr_willis, is there any way to run windows on host pc,by a  remote through putty
[06:59] <Nyle> vzduch: so you are going to help or are you just here to use the bot commands on people?
[06:59] <ubunturos> shub_: Mumbai
[06:59] <shub_> O OKI THAT KOOL
[06:59] <vzduch> PhinnFort: I prefer running a full reconfigure if necessary.. takes more time but no need to mess around again :)
[06:59] <dr_willis> dhq,  install xming, under windows, and  you can have a remote linux box, running apps, and they can appear on the local windows machine.
[06:59] <shub_> howz the weather like now
[06:59] <dhq> ubunturos, shub_ you guys intian
[06:59] <dr_willis> dhq,  if thats what you are meaning.
[06:59] <shub_> still raining
[06:59] <Ash-Fox> I let my sister play on my computer, and she's managed to delete all the items in the start menu... How would I restore the default menus without sacraficing .kde ?
[07:00] <ubunturos> shub_: well, we'll have to take that to #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <PhinnFort> vzduch: I would run with just a blank config file, if I wasn't too laze
[07:00] <ubunturos> or PM
[07:00] <PhinnFort> *y
[07:00] <shub_> o oki
[07:00] <Nyle> !ati
[07:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <dhq> dr_willis, well it will be linux box to linux box
[07:01] <dr_willis> dhq,  why are you even talking about 'putty' then?
[07:01] <dr_willis> ssh -X remotebox, run the app . :)
[07:01] <dhq> dr_willis, oops
[07:01] <dr_willis> or ssh -Y
[07:01] <dr_willis> if ssh is installed on the box that is. :)
[07:01] <dr_willis> !ssh
[07:01] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:02] <dr_willis> half the work - is asking a proper question. : )
[07:02] <dr_willis> bye all.. bbl
[07:03] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:08] <Darkrift> damn
[07:08] <Darkrift> seems all the linux wifi hacking tools are command line
[07:09] <Darkrift> why cant there be a tool taht lists the avail networks and you select one and let it go
[07:09] <voidmage> !knetworkmanager
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about knetworkmanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <Darkrift> why must you read a friggen manual to learn which args to pass a command line tool, then take its output and pass it to another tool to analyze so it can be passed to anohter tool to *ATTEMPT* to crack
[07:09] <voidmage> oh, wifi cracking.
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:11] <Darkrift> typewriter sounds?
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> Darkrift: yep
[07:11] <RivaeAerya> Darkrift: you know how?
[07:12] <Darkrift> windows used to have a feature like this in its accessability tools, bt no idea on linux
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> aww, too bad
[07:12] <Darkrift> actually
[07:12] <Darkrift> i think it would probably be very easy for someone who knows scripting
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> yess?
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> hm
[07:12] <RivaeAerya> well, gotta go.
[07:12] <Darkrift> make a script to look for any keypress and play a sound
[07:13] <Nyle> yeh i got dri
[07:14] <Darkrift> and i got whet
[07:14] <vzduch> lol
[07:18] <BluesKaj> anyone using VMWare Server Console ... I need to add my KB and Mouse drivers , but I forget how to open settings in VMWare so the Settings options aren't greyed out ?
[07:19] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: #vmware
[07:20] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, :)
[07:22] <vzduch> !grub
[07:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:24] <lamlurkey> Can some one tell me how to make a empty file in the /etc folder that is missing?
[07:26] <vzduch> sudo touch /etc/$insertNameOfFileToBeCreated
[07:32] <sum_> sum joined
[07:32] <Morkai> i downloaded a program that is in source code form and it's in a *.jar file ... how do i go about getting it into an executable
[07:38] <nicotin_e> Morkai: *jar is java executable file....
[07:39] <lamlurkey> Thanks vzduch
[07:40] <vzduch> nicotin_e: no, *.jar is a Java archive
[07:40] <yaccin> how do i manually switch between kdm/gdm, when i have both installed?
[07:40] <nicotin_e> vzduch: yes...
[07:41] <yaccin> dpkg-reconfigure kdm?
[07:43] <nicotin_e> my head will finally blow........
[07:43] <nicotin_e> need some smoke...
[07:49] <CrunchyFerrett> PhinnFort, I ran that Xconf reconfigure thing. Now the system hangs mid-boot :(
[07:50] <RivaeAerya> How can i make it so that when i type, per character it plays a sound and when i press enter it plays another sound?
[07:50] <RivaeAerya> like, typewriter sounds
[07:55] <CrunchyFerrett> oy. whats the command to resetup X11 / KDE ?
[07:55] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:56] <eTH0ny> ciao a tutti
[07:56] <eTH0ny> devo chiedere una cosa...
[07:56] <TeraDyne> !it | eTH0ny
[07:56] <ubotu> eTH0ny: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:56] <eTH0ny> scusate!! scuse me!
[07:59] <fssssssssssh> whats the difference between apt-xx and aptitude ?
[07:59] <Mr_Sonoma> CrunchyFerrett: hold control  and alt and press backspace
[08:00] <Mr_Sonoma> doh that's restart
[08:05] <CrunchyFerrett> sigh
[08:05] <CrunchyFerrett> At this juncture, I think I may have one of the most borked up linux installations of all time.
[08:06] <CrunchyFerrett> Perhaps I should just wipe the hdd and start from scratch
[08:08] <Cem_UNAL> can somebody help me there is a bug's screenshot here http://imaj.at/18991
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> !bin
[08:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:08] <CaBlGuY> !.bin
[08:09] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm   ok, I need help unpackin a .bin file..
[08:09] <CaBlGuY> !chmod
[08:09] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[08:10] <TeraDyne> Cem_UNAL: are you running Xubuntu?
[08:10] <Cem_UNAL> yeh
[08:11] <Cem_UNAL> TeraDyne: yes
[08:11] <TeraDyne> !xubuntu | Cem_UNAL
[08:11] <ubotu> Cem_UNAL: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[08:11] <Mr_Sonoma> why not use ark?
[08:11] <CrunchyFerrett> Well, Noah tried using Ark... look where it got him.
[08:12] <Cem_UNAL> TeraDyne: nobody answers me there :(
[08:12] <CrunchyFerrett> TeraDyne: Don't. You'll be disappointed.
[08:12] <TeraDyne> Cem_UNAL: Since that app is also in ubuntu, try #ubuntu
[08:12] <CrunchyFerrett> Its a massive letdown when comared to Bruce Almighty
[08:12] <TeraDyne> CrunchyFerrett: Ok. Thanks for the warning
[08:13] <CaBlGuY> any help??   unpackin a .bin file...
[08:14] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: what .bin file?
[08:14] <TeraDyne> aren't .bin files "binary" files, not archives?
[08:15] <vzduch> general rule: don't install anything from source/shell scripts/etc. if it's in the repos, except you _really_ need to
[08:16] <vzduch> CrunchyFerrett: rofl
[08:17] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: it's google earth..
[08:17] <vzduch> ah ok
[08:18] <vzduch> they should have instructions on how to install
[08:18] <CaBlGuY> I got the chmod dealy down I think but I'm gettin an error..
[08:18] <vzduch> apart from that.. I just see that googleearth _is_ in the repos
[08:19] <CaBlGuY> well, I looked for it but I couldn't find it..
[08:19] <vzduch> !medibuntu
[08:19] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[08:19] <CaBlGuY> sure would like to get it like that though..
[08:19] <vzduch> add a medibuntu source, install & enjoy :)
[08:20] <CaBlGuY>  reading now..
[08:20] <f0rrest> i just installed kubuntu 6.10. theres no *mutt* installed, and :help doesnt work in *vim* :/
[08:20] <vzduch> f0rrest: install mutt
[08:21] <Mr_Sonoma> you have to add the medibuntu repo to get it with adept or apt-get
[08:21] <f0rrest> vzduch: theres no *curses* library so it doesnt work
[08:21] <vzduch> ncurses-dev?
[08:21] <vzduch> some pkgs need that
[08:21] <f0rrest> theres no *mp3* player either
[08:21] <vzduch> there IS
[08:21] <f0rrest> which
[08:21] <vzduch> you just need to install one
[08:22] <f0rrest> i couldnt install *xmms* because theres no *glib* installed
[08:22] <vzduch> apart from that, why did you install Edgy?
[08:22] <CaBlGuY> now, once I got the repo in my list, the command would be apt-get install googleearth   yes?
[08:22] <Mr_Sonoma> yes
[08:22] <CaBlGuY> k
[08:22] <vzduch> *sigh* obviously someone who doesn't know how to use apt
[08:22] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: first apt-get update
[08:23] <f0rrest> no someone without internet
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you install *xmms* in *kubuntu* when there's already a *non-crappy* media player?
[08:23] <Mr_Sonoma> and it looks like it would be a meta package that will get other packages
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> oops..
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:23] <Mr_Sonoma> <---- didnt think about update
[08:23] <f0rrest> which *player* would that be
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> yes, that was a jab at your excessive and unnecessary use of asterisks.
[08:23] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok.
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> ok, it's asyin invalid..
[08:23] <CaBlGuY> *sayin
[08:23] <vzduch> f0rrest: then take a bunch of DVD blanks to your favourite cybercaf, download all repos you think fit & set up a local repository
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> apt-get install googleearthI'm entering a
[08:24] <vzduch> definitely easier than fiddling w/ dpkg -i
[08:24] <Daisuke_Ido> amarok wipes the floor with xmms
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> ummm   oops..   LOL
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> I'm entering apt-get install googleearth
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> there
[08:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:24] <TeraDyne> CaBlGuY: "sudo apt-get install googleearth"
[08:25] <CaBlGuY> still sayin invalid operation...
[08:25] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: did you 'sudo apt-get update' first?
[08:25] <TeraDyne> O_o; Odd... Pastebin the entire error.
[08:25] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[08:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  yea, I updated..  but not with sudo..
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> grr..
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:26] <CaBlGuY> theeeere we go...
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> grrrrr
[08:28] <Mr_Sonoma> why not open adept and search for google earth that way....then select it and click install it will do it for you..sometimes if i dont know the exact name of the package i can find and install faster with the gui
[08:28] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got this..   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29026/
[08:28] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: 'apt-cache search' exists :P
[08:29] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: import the GPG key for the repo, should be described on the site
[08:30] <Mr_Sonoma> hehehehehehe thanks....i knew there had to be something for it from the command line but didnt know exactly
[08:31] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> so when in doubt i always had reverted back to the gui
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> Mr_Sonoma: because this isn't windows and there's a use for the command line?
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> :)
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> <---- never a fan of windows anyways
[08:31] <Daisuke_Ido> (in other words, the command line interface available in windows is fricking useless)
[08:31] <Mr_Sonoma> agreeded
[08:32] <fritz> hey, i have a problem, 2 of my partitions appear as folders and i can't acces them...any1 have any clues?
[08:32] <Mr_Sonoma> when windows 95 came out the just about all but killed DOS, and in 98 then leading into xp it really became more of a joke
[08:32] <kaminix> Hello, I have a problem with my microphone using skype. My partner can't hear me. Any ideas how to check if the mic is working?
[08:33] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> vzduch: not seein it..   under Repos how to??
[08:34] <fritz> hey, i have a problem, 2 of my partitions appear as folders and i can't acces them...any1 have any clues?
[08:34] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: sorry, I was afk for some food :)
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> oops..  saaawwree..
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> :p
[08:34] <CaBlGuY> my bad..
[08:34] <vzduch> lemme check, didn't read the howto :)
[08:35] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: it's the 2nd line
[08:35] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  ahh,m I see now..
[08:36] <andreas_> !german
[08:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:36] <Winbiko> Is there a email client that doesnt use maildir or mbox to store messages? I have over 4k messages and it seems kmail is choking badly
[08:36] <Winbiko> Maybe one with a sqlite backend?
[08:36] <Novell> Winbiko: I had 10k+ mails with kmail and it worked just fine
[08:36] <NickPresta> I just installed the kicker-kickoff package as I wanted to try kickoff. All is well, however, my kmenu icon changed and it's now larger and ugly. Any idea how to change this icon?
[08:36] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  ok, I got it and did the update and still getting invalid..  :/
[08:36] <Winbiko> Novell: Im not sure what the issue is then.
[08:37] <vzduch> CaBlGuY: wrong repo perhaps?
[08:38] <CaBlGuY> Hmm  I think I see the problem now on the packages page..
[08:38] <vzduch> do you have Edgy?
[08:39] <CaBlGuY> yep..
[08:40] <CaBlGuY> I was thinkin it was this one..  googleearth  4.0.2735.0-0medibuntu2~edgy0.1  but that's not workin eather..  :/
[08:40] <sven> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu (as an ex-fedora user), but I acnt get 3d acceleration to work.. I have an nvidia graphics card.. Anybody who could give me a hint?
[08:40] <TeraDyne> !nvidia | sven
[08:40] <ubotu> sven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <sven> TeraDyne: Thanks!
[08:42] <TeraDyne> sven: no problem
[08:44] <ciacon> hi there. I long back installed kmail on my feisty. the problem is, that my kid managed to squint my PW and uninstall it. now I cant open my Calender and also can't find it... this is a real big problem for me
[08:44] <ciacon> can someone help?
[08:46] <TeraDyne> ciacon: try reinstalling kmail. "sudo apt-get install install kmail"
[08:46] <CaBlGuY> vzduch:  I found it on Synaptic..  :p
[08:47] <ciacon> have done that... thoose days I put a shortcut on my desktop -> Unable to run the command specified. The file or folder file:///usr/share/applications/kde/Kontact.desktop does not exist.
[08:47] <eloque> sup people
[08:48] <TeraDyne> ciacon: O_O; Wow. I've never seen that. Maybe they removed all of Kontact somehow. Did you try reinstalling Kontact?
[08:48] <eloque> I have a problem with KDE's login screen... when i enter my password and hit enter... it looks as if it is logging in then brings me back to the login screen
[08:49] <Novell> eloque: check ~username/.xsession-errors
[08:49] <eloque> i believe when i tried loging in from console it showed an earlier error message saying something about a resume point or sumthin
[08:49] <ciacon> TeraDyne: sudo aptitude reinstall kontact  ?
[08:49] <TeraDyne> ciacon: yes
[08:50] <eloque> also another issue i had was i was trying to erase some stuff from a mounted drive and suddenly all my downloads and stuff stopped saying my disk was full
[08:50] <eloque> is thi sbecause trying to delete something make the system move it onto the partition that kubuntu is running off of?
[08:51] <ciacon> TeraDyne: ist doing something ;-)
[08:51] <eloque> Novell, what do i do? just browse to that directory?
[08:51] <Novell> eloque: no, it's a file
[08:52] <eloque> ok
[08:52] <cedross> can anyone tell  me how to search with ktorrent 2.2?
[08:52] <eloque> so i enter it as u type above and then?
[08:52] <Novell> you use less, more or some editor to read what's in the file
[08:52] <eloque> ok cool
[08:53] <Novell> the problem should most likely be located at the bottom of the file
[08:53] <eloque> ok
[08:53] <eloque> how do i go about solving it? is that included in the file?
[08:53] <eloque> i doubt i used up all 5 GB of space i had partitioned for Kubuntu
[08:53] <Novell> no it's not, but some clue as what the problem is probably is
[08:53] <eloque> and i would hate to have to reinstall it
[08:53] <Novell> check with: df -h
[08:54] <eloque> ok Novell I'll try and save it somewhere and then come back
[08:54] <eloque> thanks
[08:54] <TeraDyne> 5GB for an ubuntu install? Wow, pushing it, aren't you?
[08:54] <eloque> is that too little?
[08:54] <eloque> i save files i download onto other drives
[08:55] <eloque> but i guess for having updated so much i usta pushed it a little
[08:55] <ciacon> TeraDyne: thanks - worked a treat
[08:55] <TeraDyne> ciacon: good to hear.
[08:56] <ciacon> TeraDyne: one thing you can beleave - that kid is in for some hassle when he gets home...
[08:57] <TeraDyne> ciacon: As someone who's figured out his parents password when he was little, I can beleive it.
[08:57] <sven> TeraDyne: On that page, it says "As of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) the recommended way to install the binary drivers is to use System  Administration  Restricted Devices Manager", but I don't have "Administration" in my systems menu.. Where would I find it?
[08:58] <eloque> k peep take care . thanks Novell gonna go try to figure out whats up
[08:58] <eloque> what do i use to start KDE from console? just X?
[08:58] <eloque> or something else?
[08:58] <TeraDyne> sven: That menu is for GNOME. You can run the program from the terminal by using "sudo restricted-manager"
[08:58] <TeraDyne> eloque: "sudo kdm"
 startkde
[08:59] <Novell> eloque: startkde
[08:59] <eloque> thanks
[08:59] <eloque> peace
[08:59] <vzduch> 'startkde' never worked for me, 'startx' did
[08:59] <TeraDyne> insmod, Novell : I've never gotten that command to work.
[08:59] <ciacon> TeraDyne: I replaced the i just simply had overwritten the login.scr with cmd.exe -> 10 minute wait -> explorer [return] .... fairly streight forward =)...
should
[08:59] <sven> TeraDyne: thanks!
[09:02] <NickPresta> I just installed the kicker-kickoff package as I wanted to try kickoff. All is well, however, my kmenu icon changed and it's now larger and ugly. Any idea how to change this icon?
[09:02] <TeraDyne> ciacon: I did it back when they were using a boot-time menu, so I didn't have such an easy time doing it. But putting in their first initials turned out to be the pass. XD
[09:02] <TeraDyne> sven no problem
[09:02] <TeraDyne> insmod: "startkde" always gives a "Cannot connect to X Server" error.
[09:03] <difeleva> ey
[09:03] <difeleva> guys
[09:04] <ciacon> TeraDyne: do you have a clue what has happend to my X?? I start a new session which is then placed on strg-alt-f9 ???... really odd - a restart does not change anything... where is my (i think its called) vts8 gone to??
[09:04] <difeleva> ey guys I just installed beryl manager and xgl and the windows borders are not woking correctly but the cube and other stuffs are working right...can u help me plz?
[09:05] <TeraDyne> !beryl | difeleva
[09:05] <ubotu> difeleva: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <mansingh> i face some problem while installing scratchbox, can somebody please help
[09:06] <TeraDyne> ciacon: unfourtunately, I can't help there. I have limited knowledge when it comes to the X server.
[09:06] <TeraDyne> mansingh: scratchbox? Never heard of it.
[09:06] <mansingh> it says Couldn't find package scratchbox
[09:06] <TeraDyne> !find scratchbox
[09:06] <vzduch> ROOT DETECTED!
[09:06] <ubotu> Package/file scratchbox does not exist in feisty
[09:07] <daquino> how do i go about getting my usb head set to work ?
[09:07] <mansingh> i have added the package location in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:07] <ciacon> TeraDyne: but I was right in naming it vts8?
[09:08] <TeraDyne> ciacon: like I said, I have limited knowledge on the X server, so I don't know.
[09:08] <ciacon> TeraDyne: np - thanks anyway
[09:08] <louie_> hey there
[09:08] <louie_> i'm having some problems in trying to compile kde4
[09:08] <ciacon> gi louie_
[09:08] <louie_> can someone help me?
[09:09] <louie_> hey ciacon
[09:09] <ciacon> can anyone tell me why, when I start a new session, it originally was on the "F8" key and now is on the "F9"???
[09:10] <TeraDyne> louie_: can you be more specific?
[09:10] <lovely> !pastebin
[09:10] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:10] <louie_> i'm following this tutorial: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment
[09:10] <louie_> and i've gotten to the part about compiling the qt framework
[09:10] <louie_> I went through the whole thing, but then at the end when i test run assistant
[09:11] <louie_> it gives me an error saying how it cant open a network socket
[09:11] <louie_> and has a deadlock
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  why not install kde4 from the repos?
[09:12] <louie_> cuz i'm trying to use it for devel and i dont actually want to use it as my main thing
[09:13] <jhutchins_lt> louie_: #kde might be more helpful.
[09:14] <louie_> thx jhuthins
[09:14] <louie_> jhukchins*
[09:14] <louie_> damn it...switching between qwerty and dvorak sucks
[09:14] <louie_> haha
[09:16] <nate137> jhutchins doesnt stand for justin hutchins does it?
[09:16] <moshea> hi guys ... I'm getting a JRE bin file, what app should I use to install the bin ?
[09:17] <eloque> sup ppl
[09:17] <eloque> Novell... it's syaing the disk is full
[09:17] <eloque> i am sur eits my trash directiry
[09:17] <eloque> from when i was trying to delete stuff from another drive
[09:17] <vzduch> moshea: you don't.. except you have a problem w/ the Java distributions from the repo
[09:17] <TeraDyne> moshea: are you trying to install Java or what?
[09:17] <eloque> cuz when i got the errors... i wasnt downloading anything to my partition that kubuntu is on
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: yeah, Java stopped working in Konq (and Firefox I think) after an upgrade to Feisty
[09:18] <eloque> i was trying to delete stuff from a fat32 partition
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: so right now, FF has pointed me to a bin file from Sun ...
[09:18] <Graham> Hey, I've got an ATi Radeon 9800XT pro running with the fglrx driver, but it's using mesa for 3d rendering... how can I fix that?
[09:18] <TeraDyne> !java | moshea
[09:18] <ubotu> moshea: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:18] <moshea> TeraDyne: and when I download it, I'm asked if I want to save or "open with ..."
[09:19] <level1> Hi, my kicker has been randomly crashing.  I can run it again from the console and it'll run fine for a little while, but eventually it'll crash again.  I've tried deleting kickerrc and no improvement.  What should I do?
[09:19] <moshea> ubotu: not the java6 ?
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about not the java6 ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <vzduch> eloque: look in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[09:19] <eloque> how can i delete stuff from console?
[09:19] <TeraDyne> moshea: that's a bot. You can install JRE6 as well. Either one should work.
[09:19] <moshea> TeraDyne: can I install Java6 ?
[09:19] <eloque> cuz kde wont syaty
[09:19] <moshea> ok
[09:20] <eloque> also i remember something bout it telling me to look in /root/ something /trash
[09:20] <eloque> before i restarted (after the issue)
[09:20] <vzduch> eloque: rm -f (or in the case of directories rm -rf) /path/to/filename(s)
[09:20] <vzduch> you can use wildcards
[09:21] <eloque> k
[09:21] <TeraDyne> eloque: your KDE trash is "~/.local./Trash/"
[09:21] <vzduch> TeraDyne: I already told him :)
[09:21] <eloque> is there a folder with trash files in /root?
[09:21] <TeraDyne> vzduch: ok
[09:21] <moshea> TeraDyne: "couldn't find package sun-java5-bin" ... I guess I don't have the right entries in my sources list
[09:22] <vzduch> eloque: I don't have anything in /root
[09:22] <eloque> i'll go check and then come back thanks
[09:22] <TeraDyne> !find sun-java6-jre > TeraDyne
[09:22] <vzduch> eloque: why no stay here and check? :)
[09:22] <eloque> i am in th elive cd right now
[09:22] <eloque> gonna have to reboot into the installed kubuntu
[09:22] <TeraDyne> moshea: try installing the "sun-java6-jre" package
[09:23] <lovely> can someone help me? I am in the middle of upgrading to fiesty and am having troubles, please see  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/    I am following http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29031/
[09:23] <eloque> unless there is some other way?
[09:23] <fssssssssssh> whats DEVFS ?
[09:23] <vzduch> eloque: usually you can mount your hdd(s) in the live CD
[09:23] <fssssssssssh> or better question, how do i find out if i have it ?
[09:24] <eloque> how do i mount my kubuntu partition? and would i be able to browse it?
[09:24] <eloque> df -h isnt showing any of my local drives
[09:24] <vzduch> lovely: typo
[09:24] <vzduch> s/fiesty/feisty/
[09:24] <moshea> TeraDyne: I guess that means in Adept or Synaptic ... ok. I'll see
[09:25] <TeraDyne> moshea: yes. Sorry about not being more clear.
[09:25] <Graham> Hey, I've got an ATi Radeon 9800XT pro running with the fglrx driver, but it's using mesa for 3d rendering... how can I fix that? I need 3d acceleration for openGL to work.
[09:25] <lovely> vzduch: which one?
[09:25] <eloque> i remember in dapper's live cd it would mount the drives
[09:25] <eloque> but now in feisty it wont
[09:26] <vzduch> lovely: look through your sources.list.. looks like about all of them
[09:27] <eloque> ok
[09:27] <eloque> i enabled it
[09:27] <eloque> thru the system admin menu
[09:27] <sweettooth> hi there, does anyone know how to add the link of a remote directory(home server) to amarok's collection in kubuntu?
[09:28] <lovely> vzduch: yes, but how do I fix it? I was following http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/05/steps-to-upgrading-your-ubuntu-machine-ubuntu-6061-610/  and merley usaed vim to replace edgy with fiesty
[09:28] <vzduch> lovely: you should have replaced edgy w/ feisty
[09:28] <moshea> TeraDyne: no, it's cool, I got you. Except that there's no such package listed on my machine. I must be missing a source
[09:28] <eloque> ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ wont show anything in it
[09:29] <TeraDyne> !info sun-java6-jre
[09:29] <ubotu> sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB
[09:29] <moshea> TeraDyne: I read something about "Metaverse"
[09:29] <vzduch> lovely: it can't be that hard to transfer the same to other names :)
[09:29] <vzduch> lovely: so now replace fiesty by feisty
[09:29] <TeraDyne> moshea: it's in the multiverse repository.
[09:29] <TeraDyne> !multiverse | moshea
[09:29] <moshea> right, I'll go see
[09:29] <ubotu> moshea: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:29] <moshea> TeraDyne: star !
[09:30] <lovely> vzduch: am I that off today??!!??
[09:30] <Ayabara> is "/dev/sdb1 /mnt/one hfsplus rw,noauto,users 0 0 " in /etc/fstab ok if I want to mount an hfsplus formatted, external usbdrive in kubuntu?
[09:30] <eloque> any ideas vzduch? ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ seems empty
[09:31] <lovely> vzduch:  yes. aparently I am, thanks
[09:31] <vzduch> lovely: you're welcome
[09:31] <vzduch> eloque: sorry, no further idea
[09:32] <eloque> is there any place that i can find out if there ar eany large files?
[09:32] <eloque> i cant imagine it would just get filled while being idle
[09:32] <eloque> and it only happened after i tried to delete a bunch of huge files
[09:33] <vzduch> !info sauerbraten
[09:33] <ubotu> Package sauerbraten does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:34] <level1> Hi, I installed a few things from a debian repository, and now apt-get refuses to do anything until I run apt-get -f install (no args)... apt-get -f install wants to remove kubuntu desktop, what do I do?
[09:35] <eloque> hmm there is a fodler call .local in /root
[09:35] <slim> I've just installed Kubuntu, and haven't gotten the update icon.
[09:35] <Daisuke_Ido> eloque: did you delete the files as root?
[09:35] <slim> Why haven't I gotten the update icon?
[09:35] <level1> slim: how long has it been?
[09:35] <eloque> there was nothing in ~/.local/share/Trash/files/
[09:36] <Skyrail> Slim just try apt-get update
[09:36] <lovely> slim: have you tried using adept?
[09:36] <slim> It's been about 20 minutes.
[09:37] <eloque> Daisuke_Ido: u mean like sudo rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[09:37] <eloque> ?
[09:37] <slim> There it goes. I did this last time I installed Kubuntu.
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[09:38] <vzduch> level1: looks like you're screwed.. don't use Debian repos in *buntu
[09:38] <Daisuke_Ido> when you originally deleted the big files
[09:39] <eloque> also is there anyway to view .xsession-errors ? its got a padlock on it
[09:39] <level1> vzduch: well, can you just help me fix it?
[09:39] <eloque> Daisuke i sudo's into Konqueror and used it
[09:39] <eloque> Move to Trash
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, you can safely remove it
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> eloque: that's why
[09:39] <eloque> i thought so
[09:39] <vzduch> level1: I suppose the easiest way would be to manually deinstall w/ dpkg -r
[09:39] <eloque> Trash kept saying it couldnt delte
[09:39] <eloque> drive full
[09:39] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo rm -rf /root/whateverthepathtotrashis/*
[09:39] <eloque> what can i do?
[09:40] <eloque> can i do that from here?
[09:40] <eloque> from th elive cd?
[09:40] <eloque> or go back and login to console?
[09:40] <vzduch> eloque: you can from the CD if you have the drive mounted
[09:40] <Daisuke_Ido> if you can get to your hdd, you may be able to go in and delete it.
[09:41] <eloque> i mounted the drive
[09:41] <eloque> maybe i mounted it incorrectly
[09:41] <eloque> in the /root dir
[09:41] <eloque> i cant get into the /.local dir
[09:42] <vzduch> eloque: where did you mount it?
[09:42] <raghu> is it possible to install windows on a computer with llinux already installed in it
[09:42] <raghu> on a different partiion
[09:42] <vzduch> lol
[09:42] <raghu> dualboot
[09:42] <eloque> in /media/sda5
[09:42] <raheem> raghu.. yes
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> raghu: windows doesn't like that
[09:42] <level1> how can i force dpkg to remove a package without removing a package that depends on it?
[09:42] <Daisuke_Ido> windows first then linux
[09:42] <eloque> dont anger windows
[09:42] <vzduch> eloque: /media/sda5/root/, /media/sda5/home/$yourUserName/.local/
[09:43] <raghu> lol
[09:43] <level1> ie, kubuntu desktop depends on k3b, but I want to remove and reinstall k3b
[09:43] <raghu> but is it possible to install windows after linux
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: kubuntu-desktop is a META PACKAGE, as i already said
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you can safely remove it :D
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it's okay
[09:43] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing's going to explode on you
[09:43] <raghu> k
[09:44] <raheem> @raghu. it is possible, but your windows installation screws up the boot loader
[09:44] <eloque> errr vzduch?
[09:44] <vzduch> eloque: the paths you should be looking at
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> raheem: not to mention windows requires the first partition of the first hdd
[09:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and if linux is there...
[09:45] <eloque> vzduch: /media/sda5/root/. ?
[09:45] <vzduch> Daisuke_Ido: I believe it doesn't _require_ hda1.. there's the option in the Windows installer to install to other partitions
[09:45] <raheem> vzduch.. you are right
[09:45] <vzduch> eloque: what's in /media/sda5/root/?
[09:46] <eloque> its all locked
[09:46] <raheem> the only problem i faced last time was, i had to re-configure grub..
[09:46] <eloque> it wont show me passed root
[09:46] <vzduch> eloque: you should be able to view it as root
[09:46] <raheem> i lost there, then i simply used ntldr to boot to kubuntu :D
[09:47] <eloque> i can only see that there is a folder called .local
[09:47] <vzduch> raheem: yes, you can do that
[09:47] <vzduch> eloque: inside root/?
[09:47] <raheem> i am working like that right ...just learning .
[09:48] <eloque> one sec vzduch
[09:48] <eloque> it says i dont have enough permission to view it
[09:49] <eloque> when i try to open .local in /root
[09:49] <vzduch> eloque: I don't know Elive.. you should either log in as root and have a look inside there or use sudo for that
[09:50] <eloque> should i go back into the regular kubuntu and get out of the live cd?
[09:50] <soc> does someone know when there will be a kde4 alpha 2 build on kubuntu.org?
[09:51] <spitwise> can i take an .iso and use it to create a bootable usb stick?
[09:51] <vzduch> hmm, strange.. I can see something in my /root/ w/ Krusader, but not w/ ls
[09:51] <eloque> same here
[09:51] <eloque> sudo rm -rf /media/sda5/root/.local/shared/Trash/*
[09:51] <eloque> would this be right?
[09:51] <Mr_Sonoma> vzduch: use ls -a
[09:52] <eloque> Mr_Sonoma: I just used what u said
[09:52] <eloque> it showed me the .local dir
[09:52] <eloque> but how can i see past it?
[09:52] <spitwise> ls -a .local/
[09:53] <vzduch> ah, I forgot the -a option existed ;)
[09:53] <eloque> duh my stupidity
[09:53] <eloque> i am such a retard thanks spitwise
[09:53] <eloque> i just found all those files
[09:53] <spitwise> no worries
[09:53] <vzduch> eloque: there you go :)
[09:54] <Mr_Sonoma> vzduch: hehehehehehehe we all forget simple stuff from time to time
[09:54] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: yea :)
[09:54] <raheem> right.. you are
[09:54] <eloque> wow
[09:54] <eloque> ther eis even old stuff
[09:54] <eloque> that i deleted liek a day ago
[09:54] <eloque> now how do i delete all that crap
[09:54] <eloque> ?
[09:54] <spitwise> _all_ of it?
[09:54] <eloque> yea
[09:54] <eloque> its a lot
[09:55] <spitwise> sudo rm -rf .local/*
[09:55] <eloque> what command can i use to see the size of the Trash folder?
[09:55] <spitwise> ls -la
[09:55] <spitwise> err
[09:55] <eloque> yea that aint work
[09:55] <eloque> lol
[09:55] <Mr_Sonoma> wouldnt you want to remove .local/trash/ instead of all of .local?
[09:55] <eloque> it shows me individual sizes
[09:55] <spitwise> ls -lha shows human readable
[09:55] <spitwise> oh of the dir?
[09:56] <eloque> yea
[09:56] <spitwise> hmm good q
[09:56] <eloque> its ok
[09:56] <Lynoure> eloque: du -sh  shows the total in humanreadable form
[09:56] <eloque> human readable did the trick
[09:56] <Lynoure> for the directory and its subdirectories, that is.
[09:56] <eloque> 2.4 freakin gigs
[09:57] <eloque> my dumb self using sudo Konqueror and then deleting stuff
[09:57] <raheem> wow..
[09:57] <Mr_Sonoma> hey thats like better than 10% of my hard disk *grin*
[09:57] <eloque> yea
[09:57] <eloque> its off of other dirves too
[09:57] <eloque> but because of my dumb self it came back into the kubuntu partition
[09:57] <Mr_Sonoma> when i delete something using the gui i imediately empty the trash can
[09:58] <eloque> i tried that
[09:58] <eloque> but this thing has been holding things for a few days
[09:58] <vzduch> Mr_Sonoma: when I delete something it doesn't even go into the trash :)
[09:58] <Mr_Sonoma> yea yea yea
[09:58] <spitwise> i like rm, it sends them to the black hole of death ;)
[09:58] <Mr_Sonoma> i like rm too
[09:59] <vzduch> you can also adjust Konq to show a direct Delete option
[09:59] <eloque>  sudo rm -rf /media/sda5/root/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> but sometimes im already in the gui and well......ya know
[09:59] <spitwise> ok bbiab, see if i made another non-bootable coaster
[09:59] <eloque> i just did that
[09:59] <eloque> but it stays the same
[09:59] <eloque> still 2.4G
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> what stays the same?
[09:59] <eloque> the files aint budgin
[09:59] <Mr_Sonoma> the size of the trash directory?
[09:59] <eloque> yea
[09:59] <eloque> he stuff in it
[09:59] <spitwise> cd /media/sda5/root/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[10:00] <spitwise> and then do an ls -a
[10:00] <spitwise> maybe the pasth is wrong?
[10:00] <spitwise> path even
[10:00] <eloque> naw
[10:00] <spitwise> heh
[10:00] <spitwise> ok brb
[10:00] <eloque> just using the same thing i used to do the ls -a
[10:00] <eloque> i cant cd into it
[10:00] <eloque> permission denied
[10:01] <eloque> oh well
[10:01] <eloque> gonna go log in normally
[10:01] <eloque> and delete it
[10:01] <eloque> thanks peeps
[10:01] <eloque> hope it works
[10:01] <eloque> i remember having set a password for root
[10:01] <eloque> but when i tried to login to console as root it wont accept
[10:01] <nirty22> has anyone had any problems setting up printer sharing in the new feisty?
[10:01] <vzduch> eloque: why not?
[10:02] <vzduch> eloque: open the console, then type 'su --login'
[10:02] <phobiac> I set up ndiswrapper recently and now the only way to get my wireless card up and running is to run sudo modprobe ndiswrapper after logging in
[10:02] <phobiac> How can I do this automatically?
[10:02] <eloque> i dunno why it wants accepting it
[10:03] <eloque> k vzduch
[10:03] <eloque> ill try and see what i can do
[10:03] <eloque> thanks a lot
[10:03] <eloque> bbiab i guess
[10:03] <eloque> peace
[10:03] <Mr_Sonoma> phobiac why not put that command into the autostart thing under session manager?
[10:04] <phobiac> It has to run as root and this is set up for my little brother, who is six.
[10:04] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmm
[10:04] <Mr_Sonoma> so much for that thought.....sorry man i dont run a wireless card so that was my one off hand shot
[10:05] <phobiac> Nah, it's okay. Any suggestions are appreciated.
[10:05] <vzduch> phobiac: why would it _have_ to run as root?
[10:05] <vzduch> don't have wifi either
[10:06] <TeraDyne> phobiac: open the "/etc/modules" file as root and add "ndiswrapper" to the list. It'll have to be on it's own line.
[10:06] <TeraDyne> phobiac: that will load ndiswrapper on boot.
[10:06] <phobiac> vzduck: I don't think modprobe works without root
[10:06] <brian__> how can i get kmobile tools on kubuntu
[10:07] <phobiac> TeraDyne: Thank you very much, I'll try that
[10:07] <brian__> i dont find it in the package manager
[10:07] <TeraDyne> vzduch: you have to run modprobe as root for ndiswrapper.
[10:07] <vzduch> never heard of
[10:07] <vzduch> TeraDyne: you always have to run modprobe as root, I know :)
[10:07] <vzduch> didn't think about it being a kernel module
[10:07] <rockets> Ever since I switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, I seem to be getting a lot more crashes. Not system crashes, just kde crashes like konversation, kopete, and worst of all kwin crashes a lot. THis never happened under Ubuntu. Any ideas?
[10:08] <bldzr> Sounds weird :\
[10:08] <TeraDyne> vzduch:  ah. ok. I use a laptop with a broadcom wireless card that doesn't work with bcm43xx, so I know how to set it up by heart now.
[10:08] <flake> when I do a 'who -a', I get a system boot, run-level2, logins tty5-tty1-tty6-etc, my user name ? :0 and then pts/1 and pts/3 term=0 exit=2.. what does the pts and term mean
[10:09] <bldzr> Check logs?
[10:09] <brian__> rockets, it must be something besides kde because it works for me....
[10:09] <brian__> your talking about gnome or kde, you can have both on the pc
[10:10] <brian__> and choose which one to use
[10:10] <Kubuntu> I just recieved the free cd for fiesty today, and the desktop doesn't fit on my screen
[10:10] <Kubuntu> How do I fix this?
[10:10] <rockets> brian__: I realize that. But literally a fresh install of kubuntu and kde apps crash randomly for me.
[10:10] <rockets> the system itself doesnt crash
[10:10] <brian__> the panning your talking about can be fixed in your xorg.conf file.  just set the resolution to what you want.,
[10:10] <rockets> I'm getting the feeling that kde isnt as stable as gnome
[10:11] <brian__> kubuntu:  or try ctrl + alt +  "+"
[10:11] <TeraDyne> rockets: It is for me.
[10:11] <Kubuntu> K
[10:11] <raheem> Kubuntu.. System Settings > Monotor & Display..
[10:11] <brian__> that will cycle through  your resolutions
[10:11] <raheem> try that .. may be ;)
[10:11] <brian__> did you do updates?
[10:12] <Kubuntu> Im in the livecd mode
[10:12] <TeraDyne> rockets: I'm not entirely sure why you'd be having a lot of problems. To be honest, though, the only problem I have is Konqueror crashing randomly when a flash movie has been loaded recently.
[10:12] <brian__> rockets, they both probally have their problems.
[10:12] <Kubuntu> But I dont want to install this if  it wont work
[10:12] <brian__> and 4.0 is comming out which will have a whole new set of problems
[10:13] <Kubuntu> I'll screen shot it
[10:13] <brian__> what frontend to i use for the package manager
[10:13] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu:  what video card are you running?
[10:14] <Kubuntu> i dont run one
[10:14] <Mr_Sonoma> Adept for KDE brian__
[10:14] <brian__> do you mean adept_installer
[10:14] <raheem> Kubuntu.. what kind of Video Card your system has ?
[10:14] <Mr_Sonoma> what are you wanting to do brian
[10:14] <Kubuntu> I dont have a video card
[10:15] <Kubuntu> Or is it just in the livecd this is a problem?
[10:15] <brian__> see the big list of things to install,,
[10:15] <brian__> i am already installed
[10:15] <brian__> im looking for kmobile tools
[10:15] <raheem> Kubuntu did you try Ctrl Alt + ?
[10:15] <Kubuntu> Yeah
[10:15] <Kubuntu> it still doesn't do anything
[10:15] <raheem> and ?
[10:15] <Mr_Sonoma> yes use the add/remove programs section under your kmenu to see what programs are avail.
[10:15] <Mr_Sonoma> that will run Adept-installer
[10:15] <raheem> try Ctrl Alt -
[10:16] <brian__> kubuntu, modify your xorg.conf file?
[10:16] <brian__> mr_sonoma, my list is very small
[10:16] <Kubuntu> I'llt ry
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> do this brian
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> open up adept under the kmenu > system > adept
[10:16] <_redbluefish> Hi,  I have a new usb hd,  I boot from kubuntu live, then installed to the new usb hard drive.   on reboot I got a grub error.  It seems the install fooled with the mbr on my hda1 windows partition.
[10:16] <phobiac> TeraDyne: Thank you again for your help, that seems to have worked.
[10:16] <Mr_Sonoma> it will ask for your password
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> when it comes up in the upper left corner click Adept
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> then manage repositories
[10:17] <NickPresta> Any idea how to move Kickoff tabs to the top as opposed to the bottom?
[10:17] <_redbluefish> So, I booted with xp cd and fixboot fixmbr.  Now windows boots fine.
[10:17] <Mr_Sonoma> make sure that at the bottom of that box where it says "download from" that the ubuntu main server is selected.
[10:17] <_redbluefish> So, how can I boot that newly installed kubuntu on the usb hd?
[10:18] <Kubuntu> Should I install it and see what happens? Since this is probabbly just an error in the LiveCD
[10:18] <raheem> Kubuntu ... i never had such an issue.. did at least 5 installations...
[10:19] <Uranellus> hey, I'm using latest stable kubuntu and would like to use beagle to search through my thunderbird mails .. now I read on the bealge page that the thunderbird part is not anymore compiled by default .. does this affect ubuntu's version of beagle as well? or is there (as there is in opensuse) a seperate package to ship beagle-thunderbird support?
[10:19] <raheem> but again it depends on your graphic card
[10:21] <brian__> mr_sonoma, your right, my repositorys were not synced up...
[10:21] <brian__> i h ave a nice list now
[10:22] <brian__> thanks
[10:22] <Kubuntu> My graphics card is an mga
[10:22] <_redbluefish> Do I need a /boot partition on the usb drive?
[10:22] <Mr_Sonoma> i ran into that when i installed fiesty for the first time
[10:23] <Kubuntu> mga?
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> drove me crazy until i realized that it had selected the United States server instead of the ubuntu main server
[10:23] <Ryaren> hi
[10:23] <eloque> sup people
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> changed that and went from 13,000 packages showing to what 100,000 or something like that
[10:23] <eloque> got back into my kde
[10:23] <eloque> but its acting super homo
[10:23] <Mr_Sonoma> was a huge jump
[10:24] <eloque> when i logged in it goes black and then opens the regular kde but it has no icons on desktop and no panel just a terminal window
[10:24] <Kubuntu> raheem: Matrox millennium G200
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> i had that issue with a S3 savige ix card
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> was unsupported win windows xp and ubuntu
[10:24] <Mr_Sonoma> bought a nvidia and havent had a problem since.
[10:24] <Flosoft> hi
[10:25] <Kubuntu> Ah
[10:25] <Flosoft> I want to use Stage6
[10:25] <eloque> i tried typing startkde and then it started looking normal loading up kde but then went back to login screen and now i am back with this weird situation
[10:25] <Flosoft> I have got w64codecs and mplayer installed
[10:25] <Ryaren> Somebody can see what is wrong in this xorg.conf file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29037/plain/    The log said screen not detected!!
[10:25] <Kubuntu> So it's probably my Matrox Millennium G200 that is the problem
[10:25] <Flosoft> but how do I assign .divx files to mplayer?
[10:25] <eloque> any ideas ppl?
[10:25] <Kubuntu> I'll change the card in settings and see what happens
[10:25] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu: is that your video card?
[10:25] <eloque> also my windows dont have any boarders and i cant minimize or maximize them
[10:25] <Kubuntu> Yes
[10:26] <Kubuntu> I use an mga matrox millennium G200 video card
[10:26] <Mr_Sonoma> ok hold on let me google
[10:26] <eloque> and i cant move my windows either
[10:26] <banksey> Emmm guys, Problem. You know the way Windows uses ASCII (Alt+0214) How do you use it on Linux :D
[10:26] <eloque> its just stuck
[10:26] <andreas_> german
[10:27] <andreas_> !german
[10:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:27] <eloque> anybody?
[10:28] <_redbluefish> I did grub find /grub/stage1 and I go (hd3,0)
[10:29] <_redbluefish> fdisk -l ->  I want to boot the install on /dev/sdd1
[10:29] <NickPresta> _redbluefish, you can try, in grub: root (hd0,3) and then setup (hd0)
[10:29] <eloque> vzduch, sorry to msg u but i thought u might'v been afk
[10:29] <eloque> i deleted that bunch of files
[10:30] <eloque> and i started up kubuntu and now kde is acting weird
[10:30] <eloque> it brings me to the login screen and when i log in
[10:30] <vzduch> no idea w/ that, sorry
[10:30] <eloque> it shows the default kde background and a terminal window
[10:31] <brian__> how do i know what device name is for my internal laptop bluetooth
[10:31] <eloque> i type xchat int he terminal to open this client but it has no window frames and i cant move the windows
[10:31] <banksey> !ascii
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ascii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <brian__> im trying to use kmobiletools
[10:31] <eloque> is it possible kde tried to resume some old session?
[10:31] <_redbluefish> What is the meaning between the two programs fdisk -l vs grub (i.e. hdx,y    vs dev/sdxy) hope that makes sense
[10:31] <eloque> how do i start a fresh new session anybody?
[10:32] <mo0osah> eloque: go to system settings > advanced tab > session manager
[10:32] <eloque> mo0osah,  i cant even get to th epanel
[10:32] <eloque> just a terminal window
[10:32] <eloque> and thats it
[10:32] <eloque> its crazy
[10:33] <eloque> is there a way to it from the terminal?
[10:33] <raheem> i guess the your kde is screwed up.. i have no idea how to fix it..:(
[10:33] <eloque> the weird thing is none of the programs that i opened have window borders
[10:33] <mo0osah> umm... can you open Kcontrol?
[10:33] <eloque> i cant even do anything bout it
[10:34] <eloque> command not found
[10:34] <eloque> raheem i types startkde in the terminal
[10:34] <eloque> and it started like it normally does
[10:34] <eloque> but then went black screen and back to login window
[10:34] <raheem> then it goes back..
[10:34] <eloque> and back from the beginning
[10:34] <mo0osah> startkde?  try doing startx
[10:35] <raheem> yes. i did experience it once..with fedora actually..
[10:35] <eloque> k i did it
[10:35] <eloque> someting bout user not authorized
[10:35] <brian__> what is the device name for a bluetooth device?
[10:35] <Ze_M> where is possible to see kubuntu source packages?
[10:35] <eloque> but i cant see everything it said cuz the xchat indow is over it
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo startx
[10:35] <eloque> and i can tmove it
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: you can grab them from apt
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get source <package>
[10:36] <eloque> fatal server error
[10:36] <eloque> server is already active
[10:36] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: im asking for a www link
[10:36] <eloque> something something something
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> eloque: let me grab you a link...
[10:36] <eloque> looks like my kde is screwed
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Ze_M: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <eloque> k
[10:36] <Ze_M> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> not really
[10:36] <waylandbill> eloque: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:36] <waylandbill> then start.
[10:37] <eloque> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:37] <eloque> ?
[10:37] <eloque> like that?
[10:37] <yeniklasor> What is Kubuntu's volume manager? Like system tray app
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> no. just the firt comant
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> Kmix yeniklasor
[10:37] <yeniklasor> OK thanks
[10:37] <Mr_Sonoma> Kubuntu:  seems to me from what i found on google that you may be missing your video driver. what file exactly you need i'm unclear on and i dont have a system with that card to test with. unless ofcourse its one of the packages i see when searching for mga in adept
[10:38] <Kubuntu> Ok
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> unless there's someone else here with experiance on video problems i'd suggest asking the folks in #beryl
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> about it. they work on graphics issues a lot
[10:39] <Mr_Sonoma> and may know exactly what you need
[10:40] <Kubuntu> OOk
[10:40] <Kubuntu> Well, I know I should probably get a video card that's not 9 years old lol
[10:41] <raheem> hehe..
[10:41] <raheem> order two.. i am stuck with Sis.. :D
[10:41] <Kubuntu> :)
[10:41] <eloque> ok
[10:41] <eloque> well that did NOT work
[10:42] <ubuntu____> hai everyone
[10:42] <waylandbill> Kubuntu: they are rather inexpensive especially if you're not looking for 3d gaming support.
[10:42] <ubuntu_> HI
[10:42] <Kubuntu> K
[10:42] <ubuntu____> i saw that you can't play the same games as ubuntu:( is that really so?
[10:42] <waylandbill> eloque: the desktop didn't come back up?
[10:42] <eloque> nope
[10:42] <eloque> when i stype what u said
[10:42] <eloque> it showed the kubuntu logo
[10:42] <eloque> liek when booting up or shutting down
[10:43] <eloque> then just black screen
[10:43] <eloque> with a cursor blinking
[10:43] <Mr_Sonoma> yes i bought my nvidia from wal-mart just 6 months ago for under $20 usd
[10:43] <Kubuntu> Hmm
[10:43] <waylandbill> then you could have done ctrl-alt-f1 to get tty1 console at that point.
[10:43] <Kubuntu> Not bad
[10:43] <eloque> so i shut down cold
[10:43] <waylandbill> unless it just hung
[10:43] <eloque> hmm
[10:43] <eloque> i dunno
[10:43] <eloque> its wierd
[10:43] <eloque> when i typed startkde
[10:43] <ubuntu____> #ubuntu
[10:43] <eloque> it acted normal for a sec
[10:43] <eloque> then back to login screen
[10:44] <eloque> is my kde broken?
[10:44] <waylandbill> you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if there are errors?
[10:44] <eloque> is it stuck between sessions?
[10:44] <ubuntu____> there are a lot of users in this room wow
[10:44] <eloque> well i didn't know to do that anyways
[10:44] <eloque> brb
[10:44] <waylandbill> eloque: the X display comes up, but you can't get into kde?
[10:45] <eloque> yea i guess
[10:45] <ubuntu____> does someone has wireless problems?
[10:45] <eloque> i get the default kde desktop background
[10:45] <waylandbill> then that log won't help. :-)
[10:45] <eloque> and a terminal window
[10:45] <eloque> when i type startkde
[10:45] <Kubuntu> Well thanks for all your help. :)
[10:45] <eloque> it does liek normal showing th edifferent icons saying it is loading up
[10:45] <eloque> then black screen and back to login screen
[10:45] <waylandbill> eloque: you don't start kde via kdm?
[10:45] <Kubuntu> I see it is not my card that is a problem, but a bug in the program xserver-xorg-video-mga that wont allow it to display properly
[10:46] <Kubuntu> I'll get a newer card
[10:46] <eloque> i dunno what that means bill
[10:46] <eloque> i normally just start up my lappie and everything is fine
[10:46] <eloque> i had a problem that i just fix
[10:46] <eloque> fixed*
[10:46] <eloque> and since then it just did this
[10:46] <eloque> i had deleted some files from a mounted drive and it filled my kubuntu partition to the brim
[10:46] <eloque> so then kde wouldnt load
[10:47] <waylandbill> kdm is the default display manager. it brings up kde itself. you can't do startkde if kdm is actually running kde at that time, or it will complain about the display being in use.
[10:47] <Mr_Sonoma> oh wait
[10:47] <eloque> so when i deleted all those files
[10:47] <eloque> from the console
[10:47] <Mr_Sonoma> when you deleted the trash directory did you just delete trash or all of .local???
[10:47] <eloque> well i tried deleteting like this .../share/Trash/files/*
[10:47] <eloque> but it didnt work
[10:48] <eloque> so i did this
[10:48] <waylandbill> eloque: sounds like one of the files in ~/.kde is messed. you could try renaming that directory and see if you can get a kde session. That would give a closer indication of the problem.
[10:48] <nivekc1> how do i change my theme in kubuntu?
[10:48] <eloque> rm -rf .../share/Trash/files
[10:48] <eloque> then i mkdir'ed the files folder again
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> !theme > nivekc1
[10:48] <Darkrift> is there a command to rescan usb devices?
[10:48] <eloque> to compensate
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> nivekc1: look at that message the bot sent you
[10:48] <Mr_Sonoma> ok now what does ls -a ..../share/ show?
[10:49] <Mr_Sonoma> ok now what does ls -a ..../share/Trash/ show?
[10:50] <eloque> two folders
[10:50] <eloque> files and info
[10:50] <Sam234> I use kmenuedit to configure my kmenu and when I click save it dosent change my menu. What reasons could cause this?
[10:50] <eloque> i am sure that when i deleted that folder it must have had something important in it or sumthin
[10:50] <eloque> i dunno
[10:51] <eloque> what can i do?
[10:51] <eloque> is this a session issue?
[10:51] <Sam234> I restart kde and it still isn't changed
[10:51] <eloque> or something i must reinstall?
[10:51] <moonshine> is there an update manager for kubuntu?
[10:51] <Sam234> ill try reinstalling kmenuedit
[10:51] <Darkrift> anyone?
[10:51] <Sam234> Moonshine adept_updator
[10:51] <Darkrift> can you "kill" a usb device?
[10:51] <moonshine> tnx:)
[10:51] <Darkrift> force it to disconnect and reconnect?
[10:52] <eloque> Darkrift, if u have a big enough gun yea
[10:52] <Darkrift> lol
[10:52] <Darkrift> i deserved that
[10:52] <raheem> hehehe
[10:52] <eloque> cant u umount?
[10:52] <Darkrift> heres the prob
[10:52] <Darkrift> i had a vm open
[10:52] <eloque> sorry Darkrift  my KDE is homosexual and not working
[10:52] <Darkrift> and i had my pocket pc connected
[10:52] <eloque> so I am a bit grumpy
[10:52] <Darkrift> then i power3ed it down and now the usb isnt detected
[10:53] <Darkrift> even by plugging it in and unplugging
[10:53] <Darkrift> lsusb nor dmesg show it
[10:53] <grul> is there any hotkey to change tabs in konsole except shift + left/right?
[10:54] <Sam234> if I have a 190gb hdd and a 5gb root partition on the first part and a 185gb /home partition on the rest is it possible to increase my root partition to 10gb and my /home partition decreased to 180gb?
[10:54] <Darkrift> gparted
[10:54] <Darkrift> will do it
[10:55] <Darkrift> as long as they arent locked or have problems (like mine do)
[10:55] <Darkrift> lol
[10:55] <Sam234> mine are tolo
[10:55] <Sam234> I can resize it but not move it
[10:55] <Darkrift> defrag first
[10:55] <Sam234> Darkrift they are both ext3
[10:55] <Darkrift> oh yeah
[10:56] <Sam234> only ntfs and fat partitions need defragging
[10:56] <Darkrift> mine are ntfs, and gparted is having probs and i think its lack of defgrag
[10:56] <Sam234> could be
[10:56] <Sam234> allways defrag a windows ntfs partition before altering it
[10:56] <Darkrift> is there a linux way to defrag?
[10:57] <moonshine> ok, this howto tells me to "In Adept -> Manage Repositories enable edgy-updates (or feisty-updates "Recommended Updates" if you are already on feisty)" in adept. how to i "enable edgy updates"??
[10:58] <Mr_Sonoma> edgy is a older distro than fiesty
[10:58] <moonshine> i'm on dapper :/
[10:58] <Mr_Sonoma> oh
[10:58] <dr_willis> Darkrift,  defrag ext2/3 filesystems?
[10:58] <Darkrift> no
[10:58] <Darkrift> ntfs
[10:58] <Darkrift> i need to defrag em so i can resize em
[10:58] <dr_willis> id have to say do some googling.. Im not brave enough to try that. :)
[10:59] <Darkrift> slowly but surely getting rid of vista
[10:59] <dr_willis> i always defragged them with windows.
[10:59] <moonshine> do i just manually add the repositories??
[10:59] <Darkrift> kubuntu needs more space :)
[10:59] <dr_willis> i got loads of space.. :) 500gb hd's are $100 now heh.
[10:59] <moonshine> that's the same as just editing my sources/list which apparently is _not_ recommended
[10:59] <dr_willis> moonshine,  i edit mine all the time.. but i did take the time to learn what i was doing. :)
[10:59] <dr_willis> !easysource
[10:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:00] <eloque> i found it guys
[11:01] <eloque> thanks to dr_willis i was logging into a failsafe session
[11:01] <raheem> wow. .. hope it is up now
[11:01] <eloque> 'instead of a kde one
[11:01] <raheem> hehe..
[11:01] <moonshine> well w/ debian that worked fine .. i've only tried that once w/ *buntu and it f*cked my system
[11:01] <eloque> ya jazakallaahu khairan
[11:01] <raheem> ahlan wa sahlan
[11:01] <raheem> :)
[11:02] <Ryaren> Somebody can see what is wrong in this xorg.conf file? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29043/plain/
[11:02] <dr_willis> moonshine,  thats why one backups the original configs. :)
[11:02] <Ryaren> The log file says: (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  1.0-7184  Tue Aug  1 18:40:06 PDT 2006
[11:02] <Ryaren> (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
[11:02] <Ryaren> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0
[11:02] <Ryaren> (WW) NVIDIA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found
[11:02] <Ryaren> (EE) No devices detected.
[11:02] <Ryaren> Fatal server error:
[11:02] <Ryaren> no screens found
[11:03] <eloque> moonshine, i am sure ubuntu doesnt wanna have sex with your system
[11:03] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  check lspci output.. see f that pci busid is right?
[11:03] <moonshine> you're a big help dr_willis ;P
[11:03] <dr_willis> :) and i know it!
[11:03] <dr_willis> RTFM and BACKUP! are the operative words when becomming a Leet-haxor!
[11:03] <moonshine> i'm all backed up i'm just trying to avoid a clean install everytime i want to upgrade
[11:03] <moonshine> heheh
[11:03] <Ryaren> dr_willis: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV28 [GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP 8x]  (rev a1)
[11:03] <dr_willis> I find it easier to do clean reinstalls :)
[11:04] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  bummer.. there goes that idea.
[11:04] <HayaBusa> hello again. I have latest Kubuntu installed, and i have nvidia geforce 7300 GS card. How do i install the driver and openGL ? i tired to install this morning and system faild to boot into desktop
[11:04] <vlt_home> Hello. I installed Kubuntu 7.04. When I press the shutdown button I see a selection offering "Log off", "Suspend", "Hibernate", "Restart" and "Shutdown". Some of the letters are underlined but when I press Alt+Key the wrong action is done (shutdown instead of hibernate, standby instead of shutdown ...). Any idea what's wrong here? ($LANG=de_DE.UTF-8)
[11:04] <eloque> hmm
[11:04] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  how did you try to install?
[11:04] <Ryaren> dr_willis: I don't understand you
[11:04] <eloque> i just installed azureus from adept and it isnt showing up
[11:04] <HayaBusa> i used nvidia-glx
[11:04] <HayaBusa> i was told how to enter the command
[11:05] <dr_willis> Ryaren,  your #'s seem correct.. so not sure what else may be wrong.
[11:05] <dr_willis> HayaBusa,  i always just install the 'restricted-manager' and run it. and let it install the right drivers.
[11:05] <moonshine> _and_ i already accidentally did a apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:05] <dr_willis> !info restricted-manager
[11:05] <ubotu> restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 0.20 (feisty), package size 32 kB, installed size 300 kB
[11:05] <HayaBusa> now how do you do that ???
[11:05] <eloque> hmm
[11:05] <eloque> i typed azureus in terminal and the window came up
[11:05] <eloque> then it aborted
[11:05] <dr_willis> install restricted-manager, kdesu restricted-manager
[11:06] <eloque> # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment:
[11:06] <eloque> #
[11:06] <eloque> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x8ee9c172, pid=6306, tid=3084823440
[11:06] <vlt_home> dr_willis: suspend means storing all data to RAM (consuming little amount of energy) while hibernate completely writes to disk and shuts down (for years if necessary)
[11:06] <HayaBusa> restricted-manager not found
[11:06] <dr_willis> vlt_home,  ok. Ive always heard it called like 'suspend to ram' and 'suspend to disk' :)
 restricted-manager: manage non-free hardware drivers. In component main,
[11:07] <dr_willis> check your spelling
[11:07] <vlt_home> dr_willis: Erm, yes, that's right :)
[11:07] <dr_willis> its not installed by default either..