[09:44] <Yerushalmi> No other (EE) or (WW) prefixes. But the last line is ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log. Dunno if that's significant
[09:45] <Fjodor> shadghost: less is interactive, thus not suitable for piping
[09:45] <Fjodor> shadghost: Use cat instead, or simply supply the filename as the last argument to grep
[09:45] <greppy> shadghost: grep error /var/log/Xorg.0.log | less
[09:45] <shadghost> Fjodor: and greppy it works, i just tried it
[09:46] <Fjodor> shadghost: If you "do" want to use less, though, you can search within it by typing '/' and the search string ;-)
[09:46] <Yerushalmi> Does grep only find the first instance or all instances?
[09:46] <shadghost> ll
[09:46] <shadghost> all
[09:46] <greppy> Yerushalmi: all
[09:46] <Yerushalmi> Because it only found the word "error" in the explanation line (WW) warning (EE) error, etc.
[09:46] <shadghost> Fj
[09:46] <shadghost> Fjodor: shadghost@weardass:~$ less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep error (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[09:47] <shadghost> that is two lines there, second line starts after error
[09:47] <shadghost> it worked
[09:47] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: was there a word or chair common inbetwen the error lines you were reading?
[09:48] <trick> shadghost: your spelling makes jesus cry
[09:48] <bajk-tragbar> hey, is there an easy way of sharing a LAN connection through WiFi? So I have my notebook connected to the LAN and create an Adhoc WiFi network that spreads this onnection to other notebooks?
[09:48] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Not sure what you mean.
[09:49] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: There were no EE lines or errors, and I copied into here all three warnings I received/
[09:49] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Have a look at arno-iptables-firewall
[09:49] <Symmetria> heh shadghost
[09:49] <Symmetria> http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/index.php?k=profile&u=anon-14046-9273-11967 <[09:49] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: it makes it easier to read a log file if you know there is a pattren to it so like all errors have "er" in it you can pass it to grep and look for all lines containing a "er"
[09:49] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: well I found something in the Ubuntu wiki that is exactly what I am looking for, but linux typically it's fuzzing around in config files and doing this and that and not working eventually of course
[09:50] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: I'm not sure what you mean - I grepped "error" and didn't get anything.
[09:50] <rigved> .msg ubottu !info arno-iptable-firewall
[09:50] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: never mind
[09:50] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, on install, arno-iptables-firewall will ask a eries of questions and write a config file to match your answers
[09:50] <Yerushalmi> same for grepping EE. Nothing but the (EE) error explanation line and "(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER"
[09:50] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: To reconfigure, issue 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure arno-iptables-firewall'
[09:50] <bajk-tragbar> okay I will have a look at it
[09:51] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: and is there like a graphical frontend like in OS X where you could simply click your LAN connection and choose share?
[09:51] <bajk-tragbar> (but well networkmanager is the worst thing I ever met, so I doubt it will have something easy like this)
[09:52] <shadghost> Fjodor: bajk-tragbar trying to configure a firewall? if so there is ufw by defult in ubuntu, and that is WAY easier then iptables
[09:52] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, you can use NM to make an ad-hoc network, to get the connection in the first place, but for the actual forwarding, ufw or arno-iptables-firewall is needed
[09:52] <bajk-tragbar> shadghost: I just want to share ONE Lan connection (theres only one plug :D) with another notebook over WiFi
[09:53] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: ah
[09:53] <shadghost> i left all my papers in the lab today... but i have a printout on that
[09:53] <bajk-tragbar> well, so, now my collegue plugged his Macbook in and clicked two things and now I am online here..
[09:53] <backslash7> What kernel version does the most recent version of 10.10 use?
[09:54] <Fjodor> shadghost: I find arno-iptables-firewall easy enough - haven't tried ufw. Does it come with a gui as bajk-tragbar is requesting?
[09:54] <bajk-tragbar> backslash7: 2.6.35-25 I think
[09:54] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: And ok, that means problem solved, or?
[09:54] <bajk-tragbar> if there's something that is still so much broken in Linux, then it's NM^^
[09:54] <shadghost> Fjodor: it wont do that, as it is a firewall
[09:54] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: well, it damaged my linux honor :(
[09:54] <bajk-tragbar> :D
[09:54] <backslash7> bajk-tragbar: Thanks
[09:55] <shadghost> Fjodor: but it is easy to learn firewall, you have ufw enable, ufw defualt deny|accept, ufw add (port) (ip:range), ufw remove (rule)
[09:55] <bajk-tragbar> backslash7: don't know for sure since I use 2.6.38-4 :) but should be
[09:55] <shadghost> basicaly
[09:55] <bajk-tragbar> well thanks Fjodor and shadghost I will have a look at it later :)
[09:55] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, OSX won't play with wpa-enabled ad-hoc networks, as it's not in the specification.
[09:55] <bajk-tragbar> hm, right, it's WEP
[09:56] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: so this ip tables thing is "in the spec"?
[09:56] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: good luck to you, when i tryed to foward a connection from wire to wifi with my laptop... well i had to reinstall ubuntu
[09:56] <shadghost> it is iptables (all one word)
[09:56] <Fjodor> shadghost: Well, a firewall on Linux is usually based on iptables, which is also responsible for masquerading...
[09:57] <bajk-tragbar> I tried this thing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[09:57] <shadghost> Fjodor: ufw just provides a nice wraper arround iptables for ubuntu only
[09:57] <Yerushalmi> So does nobody know what to do to get me out of tty1?
[09:57] <Fjodor> shadghost, bajk-tragbar: iptables is the underlying framework. ufw and arno-iptables-firewall uses it
[09:57] <bajk-tragbar> but the IPs I am getting here is <IP_ADDRESS> for my notebook and after changing the network config thing my lan didnt work
[09:57] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sorry... totaly frogot about you
[09:57] <Fjodor> shadghost: Ah, didn't see that you also said that
[09:57] <Yerushalmi> hehe
[09:57] <heliox> test
[09:58] <bajk-tragbar> hm, maybe I will have a look at networkmanager's source and unbreak it *g* it doesnt even let me choose which network connection I need, something that every other OS is able since.. always?
[09:58] <Fjodor> shadghost, bajk-tragbar: And arno-iptables-firewall has worked well for me in the past and is easy to (re)configure via "sudo dpkg-reconfigure arno-iptables-firewall"
[09:58] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: truthfully i have no ieda, i have been trying to keep fucked up linux systems running all day... and i dident even get arround to getting gui working
[09:58] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: How do you mean?
[09:59] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: In Windows, if I disable a network adapter, it's DISABLED. In KDE when I disconnect a network, it instantly reconnects
[09:59] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: try this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[09:59] <bajk-tragbar> shadghost: nope, i'll look into it
[09:59] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: try ifdown
[09:59] <bajk-tragbar> again: I don't like config files and terminals
[09:59] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: or /etc/init.d/networking down
[09:59] <shadghost> if you want _all_ networks down
[10:00] <bajk-tragbar> shadghost: another case: I have a LAN cable plugged in but want to go online using WiFi or cell network, it doesnt let me
[10:00] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, I'm using GNOME and the nm-applet does let me disable network interfaces. Try #kubuntu for that, perhaps?
[10:00] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: you can bring down one interface with ifdown and ifup
[10:00] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  how did you get into there?
[10:00] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: I already filed a bug report long ago but nobody cares^^
[10:00] <shadghost> look at the man pages
[10:01] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Sorry to hear
[10:01] <bajk-tragbar> shadghost: but then again, I want to click on the network thing, click the little X and than I am all set
[10:01] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: it makes me tear up little teddybears sometimes in the office^^
[10:01] <Yerushalmi> coz_: I end up in tty1 when I boot up. It started intermittently last week, but usually if I restarted a couple of times I'd eventually get out of it. As of last night, no more.  Then I plug in my smartfone and want to tether. But then the networkmanager doesnt let me go through the mobile while the cable is still plugged in
[10:02] <shadghost> infact if i know how to do something a gui way and a command prompt way, 95% of the time i use the comand prompt way
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo service gdm restart  (also)
[10:02] <bajk-tragbar> if I just plug out the cable, everythings fine
[10:02] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: I dunno about the KDE interface to nm, but perhaps someone in #kubuntu might...
[10:03] <Tabs> exit
[10:03] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: you are in kde... well
[10:03] <shadghost> that make a big diffrance
[10:03] <bajk-tragbar> isnt networkmanager used in both ubuntu and kubuntuß
[10:03] <shadghost> because i found how in a gnome way
[10:03] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Yes, but the gui might be different
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> network manager also has cli commands i recall..
[10:04] <shadghost> because i have this thing that looks like two arrows up in the uppwer right of my screen with the title bar and right clicked on it
[10:04] <darek> darek
[10:04] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: NM is sort of a daemon that you interact with via cli or guis
[10:04] <Yerushalmi> Both those commands, coz_ and Dr_Willis , give me "restart: Unknown instance:"
[10:04] <bajk-tragbar> so and the kde interface is f***ed up?^^
[10:04] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  if that doesnt work I am going to suggest   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to see if anything needs to be updated/upgraded
[10:04] <bajk-tragbar> well there's nobody home in #kubuntu or #kde^^
[10:05] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Apparently if you say so - wouldn't know myself, though
[10:05] <Yerushalmi> coz_: How do I get a network connection running in this prompt?
[10:05] <Fjodor> !kubuntu
[10:05] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  did you install /  uninstall /  compile anything just before this started
[10:05] <shadghost> 01:05 -!- Irssi: #kde: Total of 342 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 341 normal]
[10:05] <shadghost> i think _somone_ has to be there
[10:06] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  mm  good question...  so there is no network connected at t his point?
[10:06] <Yerushalmi> coz_: Yes and no. I'd been intermittently getting thrown into this prompt for the last week or so, but usually a couple of restarts and the computer would behave.
[10:06] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  and this is ubuntu 10.10 ... yes?
[10:06] <Yerushalmi> coz_: Last night I ran an update that included the new linux kernel and new version s of firefox.
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  i saw similer issues during beta testing if gdm was not startingup properly/waiting for nvidia drivers to get going..
[10:06] <flexd> Uh, i just installed ubuntu yesterday and the color scheme seems a bit.. off
[10:06] <Yerushalmi> 10.04, I believe.
[10:06] <flexd> It's too dark/odd? Not sure if it's just displaying wrong
[10:07] <Yerushalmi> coz_: But only firefox appeared to install; the new kernel didn't appear in the grub menu when the computer rebooted.
[10:07] <naveendhanuka> hello all
[10:07] <coz_> Yerushalmi,   next time you boot   hold the left shift key down the whole time untill  you get the grub  menu... try booting into a previous kernel
[10:07] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common
[10:07] <Fjodor> flexd: Have a look in System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[10:07] <Yerushalmi> coz_: And running apt-get update and upgrade indicates that the kernels need to still be installed.
[10:07] <flexd> Fjodor: changing between the themes doesn't really make a difference, still looks odd
[10:07] <Fjodor> flexd: Lets you select other themes. If they seem odd as well, you are more sure that there is an actual display problem
[10:07] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  ok sudo apt-get install -f
[10:08] <Fjodor> flexd: Ah, ok
[10:08] <flexd> one sec, trying to remember the thingy to take a screenshot hrm
[10:08] <Yerushalmi> coz_: I tried several different kernels and none of them work. Also, I couldn't install the new kernel without a network connection.
[10:08] <Fjodor> flexd: Can you describe "odd"?
[10:08] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-session
[10:08] <shadghost> may work better
[10:08] <flexd> Fjodor: If i can take a screenshot, yes.
[10:08] <coz_> Yerushalmi,  ok I am puzzled  you might want to try the other suggestions given
[10:08] <flexd> Unless that shows up as completely normal on your screen (and my laptops), then i'll at least know
[10:09] <Yerushalmi> sudo apt-get install -f gives me "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded"
[10:09] <Fjodor> flexd: I think that it may very well look normal on other machines
[10:09] <flexd> Fjodor: yeah.
[10:09] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: try the dpkg-reconfigure stuff
[10:09] <coz_> Yerushalmi, so you have internet connectivity
[10:09] <flexd> it's a ATI HD4870 card, drivers installed
[10:09] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Tried both those dpkg-reconfigure commands. I didn't get any messages, it just waited for a moment and gave me a new prompt, is that normal?
[10:09] <flexd> 22" ASUS monitor and 19" samsung monitor
[10:09] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: that means nothing got configured
[10:10] <shadghost> i think
[10:10] <Fjodor> flexd: Which drivers? Proprietary or open source?
[10:10] <shadghost> you can try startx
[10:10] <bajk-tragbar> well, maybe I will try wicd instead, this worked quite fine all the time and I think in KDE you can change the backend ujsed for network configuration in Information Sources control panel
[10:10] <flexd> prop
[10:11] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Ok, I don't know it but it may be good :-)
[10:11] <flexd> Fjodor: Just tried resetting my monitor and it got even odder
[10:11] <flexd> So it's a color/balance thing i think
[10:11] <Yerushalmi> Ah, startx. I saw startx on a forum and tried it . My screen goes black as if it's going to load something, and then gives me back the prompt. It loaded a whole bunch of loading-stuff text, ith the last line "Waiting for X server to shut down ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log"
[10:11] <Fjodor> flexd: have you tried the open source ones?
[10:11] <flexd> Fjodor: No, i didn't know they existed.. and won't that leave me without hardware acceleration ?
[10:12] <Guest34678> Hi , What is the programming Talk channel pls ?
[10:12] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo xinit gdm
[10:12] <coz_> Guest34678,  I am not sure w hat you mean  "Talk" channel
[10:12] <bajk-tragbar> hm and any ideas why Policykit doesnt save my permissions anymore? I can click "Remember authorization" all the time, it doesnt remember it the next time I for example install a package
[10:12] <Fjodor> flexd: They work very well on my laptop and since ATI has opened the specs, you *do* get accell :-)
[10:12] <coz_> Guest34678,  unless you mean #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:12] <icedtea> Guest34678: depends on what programming language
[10:12] <flexd> Hm
[10:12] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: That did basically the same thing. Same closing message too.
[10:12] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: i think it only rembers it for 15 min
[10:13] <coz_> Guest34678,   you want the development channel? or just a channel for programming?
[10:13] <bajk-tragbar> shadghost: in 9.04 therre used to be a polkit configuration interface but it is gone now (I think because of some issues?)
[10:13] <bajk-tragbar> and I certainly dont want to dig through man pages
[10:14] <Guest34678> coz_ , actually i needed both.
[10:14] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: can i can tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:14] <bajk-tragbar> lol. in wicd I could choose "Create ad-hoc network" and then say "Enable internet onnection sharing".. o.O does this work now?
[10:14] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: can i can tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:14] <shadghost> bajk-tragbar: ignore that
[10:14] <shadghost> lol
[10:15] <bajk-tragbar> np^^
[10:15] <coz_> Guest34678,  well there  is #programming  for general stuff... for ubuntu specific  there is  #ubuntu+1  #ayatana < for Unity developers
[10:15] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: How much of that is the command?
[10:15] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, give it a try :-)
[10:15] <shadghost> tail /var/log/kern.og
[10:15] <shadghost> tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:15] <bajk-tragbar> unfortunately, my collegue is now skiing and his macbook has a pw :(
[10:15] <bajk-tragbar> but well, this evening I will try it :
[10:15] <bajk-tragbar> :)
[10:15] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: There are a few segfaults there.
[10:15] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: But be aware that if you are going to share with an OSX host, you can't use wpa/wpa2
[10:16] <shadghost> like
[10:16] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: and ok, good luck :-)
[10:16] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: wicd also only let me choose wep^^
[10:16] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Ah, ok
[10:16] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: have you ever doen a memtest on your ram
[10:16] <Yerushalmi> console-kit-dae[1061]: segfault at 2b7a50c ip 00ad6ece sp bf8c8ef0 error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.1[ab1000+c8000]
[10:16] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: I did this morning, all passed.
[10:17] <dejan_> can I download php file from a website if I know its url with wget?
[10:17] <Yerushalmi> There were four segfaults here, two on console-kit-dae, one on x-session-manag, one on gdm-binary
[10:17] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: GNOME nm-applet lets you use wpa/wpa2 but since it isn't in the official specs, only other Linux (or possibly only Ubuntu) hosts will be able to connect
[10:17] <Yerushalmi> all of them error 4 in libglib-2.0.so.0.2400.1
[10:18] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: that sigfalt appears normal
[10:18] <Yerushalmi> There's such a thing as a "normal" segfault?
[10:18] <Fjodor> flexd: In other words, I recommend that you try out the open source drivers, if for nothing else, to see if they have the same problem. If so, you might have a hardware problem on your hands...
[10:19] <bajk-tragbar> any ideas why 2.6.38 kernel is no longer available for maverick?
[10:19] <bajk-tragbar> now there are only packages for natty? I installed it on my notebook using the kernel ppa but now it seems to be gone?
[10:19] <dejan_> can I wget this www.example.com/aa.php ?
[10:19] <bajk-tragbar> on the repositories
[10:19] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: well it is a knowen bug the console-kit one
[10:20] <Yerushalmi> Want me to copy over one or more of the others?
[10:20] <flexd> Fjodor: Nonsense, it worked perfectly fine in windows (and still does) when i reboot.
[10:20] <flexd> I don't see how the open source drivers will make a difference, it's a color/lightness problem ?
[10:20] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Well, just download and install the natty packages. They should work
[10:20] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: do you know what gpu the computer has
[10:21] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: hm, so I need to change the sourecs.list to natty at the kernel ppa?
[10:21] <flexd> It actually seems specific to one monitor even. My 22" ASUS MW221
[10:21] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Nope, it's an inherited computer, how do I find out?
[10:21] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: because I definitly need the 38 kernel on my notebook
[10:21] <Fjodor> flexd: Well, then set it right on that monitor?
[10:21] <flexd> The second monitor, 19" Samsung 930bf seems to be showing colors good
[10:21] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Indeed
[10:21] <flexd> Fjodor: trying :)
[10:21] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: thx, I'll give it a try :)
[10:22] <shadghost> type lspci
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> flexd:  ive seen video cards and cables get bad pins/wires and really mess up colors. is this a DVI or vga cable?
[10:22] <shadghost> and somewhere in there
[10:22] <Lint> why if everything is called 'lightweight' in ubuntu it means it's carp? like lxde... :fury:
[10:22] <flexd> DVI
[10:22] <Fjodor> flexd: My concern is, though, that since you say that it works fine in Windows, that leaves us with the drivers as the likely culprit
[10:23] <flexd> Hm, hold on. I can take a really crappy photo with my phone :D
[10:23] <dejan_> can I download php files with wget?
[10:23] <SirCane> flexd monitors can have color calibration files, you sure the asus doesn't have one in linux that its using and you're not using one in windows?
[10:23] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  why do people expect 1000000+ useless features in somthing claiming to be lightweight.. do you have an actual Ubuntu support question?
[10:23] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: Error gathering http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[10:23] <flexd> SirCane: That i don't know, i've googeled for color profiles
[10:23] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: 2 secs
[10:23] <Lint> sure, i want to create a shortcut and change dbl click speed in that "wonderful" de
[10:24] <bajk-tragbar> yep there is no such folder natty on the server
[10:24] <david> hello
[10:24] <SirCane> asus usually have pretty good support on their website for the products, you might find windows profiles to use... at least you know they exist then
[10:24] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: I see that now. Then the maverick repo should be fine, no?
[10:25] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[10:25] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: Otherwise, download the packages from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:25] <Yerushalmi> ?
[10:25] <rigved> dejan_: you can download any file with wget
[10:25] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: well i didnt insall a mainline kernel
[10:25] <flexd> SirCane: yeah
[10:25] <dejan_> rigved how to download php file whenn I download it it isn't php code there
[10:25] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: I'm faily sure that you did. kernel-ppa kernels are mostly mainline, aren't they?
[10:25] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor: hmm okay the kernel is there when entering 2.6.38 but not on my main machine. is it a wrong architecutre or something?
[10:26] <bajk-tragbar> okay
[10:26] <SirCane> dejan_ you need the phps file
[10:26] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: How do you mean?
[10:26] <bajk-tragbar> how do I find out whether I am using a 32 or 64 system?
[10:26] <bajk-tragbar> bit
[10:26] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: uname -a
[10:26] <bajk-tragbar> thx
[10:27] <LunaVorax> Hi everyone
[10:27] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: +1 deadend
[10:27] <flexd> SirCane: For my monitor Asus has 12 manuals and nothing else for download. Sweet :-P
[10:27] <rigved> dejan_: give it the url as the input, no the path to the file
[10:27] <hihihi100> im trying to install egoboo from source, last version, but when I extrat the tar.gz, this is what happens: gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[10:27] <hihihi100> tar: Child returned status 1
[10:27] <hihihi100> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:27] <phoenixsampras> blueray makemkvv works!
[10:27] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: What's that mean?
[10:28] <hihihi100> whats does that mean?
[10:28] <SirCane> flexd should be good to go then, tried connecting monitor to another video port?
[10:28] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: i was trying to see if we could just install nvidia or ati drivers
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  sounds like that archive is bad. or you are extracting it wrong.
[10:28] <rigved> dejan_: wget http://example.com
[10:28] <arkanabar> who's making the best/ most reliable HDs these days?
[10:28] <hihihi100> so how do I extract it?
[10:28] <Yerushalmi> ah.
[10:28] <mmo|> Hi, I have a problem that when transfering files from my server (an old fit-pc 1-0) the transfers are at first as fast as one would expect (about 11-12 mb/sec) but then after a while drops A LOT - down to about 1 mb/sec. I am using vsftp to transfer over a local network to another ubuntu machine connecting with gftp. Any ideas what might be wrong? soe buffer filling up or..?
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[10:28] <iflema> bajk-tragbar: currently or capable of?
[10:28] <dejan_> ok thanks
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  i always just use 'unp'
[10:29] <LunaVorax> I have two Backup HDDs (lets say HDD1 and HDD2) and I don't know what files are on boths HDDs wasting space. Threre fore I would like to know if there's a tool to discover it and therefore remove every file that is duplicate on HDD2. Can anyone help me with that ?
[10:29] <dejan_> rigved but that way i will download whole website ?
[10:29] <krzys123> Hi I wonder about buying laptop. It should be safe enough, quite cheap and have compatibility with linux. I'll use it for most time for programming and surf in internet. I prefer Lenovo Thinkpads and Sony. Thought about Thinkpad T510 but Im uncertain about resolution. Its not necessarily to be very portable or have the best graphic card. What do u think about it?
[10:29] <bajk-tragbar> iflema: well, it should be a 64 bit system but I dont know why but it is running the 32 bit version. I was sure I did download the 64 bit version, but well, shouldnt make much of a diference?
[10:29] <hihihi100> i have compiled like 8 programs, 1st time this happens,
[10:29] <arkanabar> LunaVorax: might try grsync.
[10:29] <rigved> dejan_: wget http://exmaple.com/in/this/folder/
[10:29] <phoenixsampras> thanks finally i can see blueray on ubuntu
[10:29] <bajk-tragbar> I think I copied the images of my virtual box (which are 32 bit) onto the usb
[10:29] <Fjodor> mmo|: Have a look at http://gettys.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/introducing-the-criminal-mastermind-bufferbloat/
[10:29] <rigved> dejan_: you will get everything in that folder
[10:29] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: do you have in /etc/X11/ a xorg.conf.back (or something that looks like a backup file for it?)
[10:30] <bajk-tragbar> Does 64 bit make much of a difference on this machine than a 32 bit linux? (Core i5 2x2,53 GHz, 4 GB Ram)
[10:30] <bajk-tragbar> it's the generic-pae kernel
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> bajk-tragbar:  i tend to use 64bit whenever i can.
[10:30] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Actually, this was weird. Having gone to various forums looking for solutions I went and checked that out
[10:30] <Fjodor> bajk-tragbar: I don't think it makes much of a difference, no. I do use the 64-bit version myself, though
[10:30] <dejan_> rigved how to get everythig just in that folder
[10:30] <LunaVorax> ok arkanabar thanks
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> bajk-tragbar:  ive heard the pae kernel is  not as efficient as a real 64bit kernel also.
[10:30] <flexd> SirCane: The other monitor is connected to the other port, and yea.
[10:30] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: I have an xorg.conf.failsafe. I do not have an xorg.conf in and of itself.
[10:30] <dejan_> just in folder example.com/
[10:31] <bittyx> dejan_: check your private messages
[10:31] <bajk-tragbar> Fjodor and Dr_Willis: I didnt notice a difference till I wanted to install a 64 bit kernel and it said "wrong architecture" :D but I will re-install it when natty comes and use a proper 64 bit, so no need to do anything by now :)
[10:31] <mmo|> Fjodor: thanks a lot, I will :-)
[10:31] <bajk-tragbar> so, restarting :) new kernel
[10:31] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsave /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:31] <ehidle> morning
[10:31] <Fjodor> mmo|: Np :-)
[10:31] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Tried that. Still booted to tty1.
[10:31] <shadghost> damn
[10:31] <rigved> dejan_: i just checked. if you give http://url.com/file.ext it will download that specific file
[10:31] <Lint> hihihi100, uncompress it manually and see where theerror lies
[10:32] <flexd> Anyway trying a reboot, did some sort of auto adjustment and it reset y resolution to 1280x1024 :s
[10:32] <shadghost> you tryed to boot into safe mode
[10:32] <rigved> dejan_: what do you get when you give it the name of the php file
[10:32] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: You mean recovery mode?
[10:32] <dejan_> it seems i cant dl php files :)
[10:32] <hihihi100> lint, how do I manually uncompress? I cannot use ark or archive manager to even see whats in the tar.gz
[10:32] <shadghost> ya
[10:32] <dejan_> just html code i guess
[10:33] <Lint> hihihi100, gzip -d ...tar.gz
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  i use the 'unp' command i mentioned earlier.
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> hihihi100:  its very likely that archive is bad then..
[10:33] <hihihi100> by bad i assume you mean corrupted...
[10:34] <rigved> dejan_: i just downloaded a php file using wget. it works
[10:34] <Lint> how to create a shortcut in LXDE??
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> unp archivename
[10:34] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Yes. I tried every option under there, too.
[10:34] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: ready for drastic options?
[10:34] <rigved> dejan_: what url are you trying to use?
[10:35] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: I tried running in failsafe graphic mode, and got a whole screenfull of errors - but it went by too quickly for me to see.
[10:35] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: apt-get purge xserver-xorg
[10:35] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Let's be sure i have an internet connection before I do that :)
[10:35] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: yes, that would be a good ieda
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  i seem to have a '~/Desktop/someshortcut.desktop' here thats giveing me a shortcut to a program on my lxde desktop. Im not sure how i made that however.. I am using a gnome/kde/lxde system. so its possible it came from gnome.
[10:35] <rigved> Yerushalmi: if you have boot logging enabled, then you can have a look at those errors
[10:36] <Yerushalmi> rigved: How do I know if I do, and where do I get the errors?
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  if i right click on a menu item. it has a 'add to desktop' entry also it seems
[10:36] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: Maybe I'll get lucky and if I install that kernel that isn't installed yet it will work. How do I do so?
[10:36] <shadghost> rigved: we looked at Xorg.0.log and syslog
[10:37] <rigved> Yerushalmi: /var/log/boot
[10:37] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: uname -a
[10:37] <rigved> Yerushalmi: also in /var/log/boot.log
[10:37] <Yerushalmi> What command should I use to read those files?
[10:38] <shadghost> cat, less, more, nano, vi
[10:38] <rigved> Yerushalmi: cat /var/log/boot
[10:38] <shadghost> all of thoes will work
[10:38] <shadghost> lol
[10:38] <rigved> Yerushalmi: or vim
[10:38] <Lint> ...but not any way to edit it afterwards :sad:
[10:38] <shadghost> i recomend less
[10:38] <shadghost> so less /var/log/boot.log
[10:38] <flexd> SirCane, Fjodor thanks for the help
[10:39] <flexd> It looks a bit better now after resetting the monitor a few times and reboot, no idea why.
[10:39] <Yerushalmi> "less boot" (when I'm in the right directory) gives me (Nothing has been logged yet."
[10:39] <flexd> I still feel the colors are odd but that might just be the silly blue white on black on light blue color scheme :s
[10:39] <shadghost> boot.log
[10:39] <Yerushalmi> "less boot" is the funniest command I've ever typed, I must say.
[10:39] <rigved> Yerushalmi: ya check boot.log
[10:39] <OY1R> how can i see what device my usb soundcard is? (dev/dsp something) i need to point programs to my usb sound card.
[10:40] <Yerushalmi> "less boot.log" gives me the results of an fsck I ran, probably from a long time ago, followed by " * Starting AppArmor profiles"
[10:40] <Yerushalmi> It's only three lines.
[10:40] <rigved> Yerushalmi: boot logging is not enabled, that's why it says nothing logged. after you start boot logging, restart and then check
[10:40] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: uname -a
[10:41] <Yerushalmi> Linux Glados 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 1 23:52:12 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Lunux
[10:41] <Yerushalmi> er... Linux.
[10:41] <Fjodor> flexd: Happy to help, if it was only just a little. I still don't think it would hurt to use the opens source drivers, though ;-)
[10:41] <Yerushalmi> rigved: How do I start boot logging?
[10:42] <Yerushalmi> I'm starting to suspect that uname -a contains the real reason I've been having so many problems with this computer since day one.
[10:42] <Yerushalmi> In retrospect, naming my computer "Glados" was just asking for problems.
[10:42] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  but the cake is a lie!
[10:42] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: So, apparently, is the user-friendliness of Linux :)
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  ive rarely had any issues with  it..
[10:43] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  user friendly ness - excuess for people to be lazy :)
[10:43]  * Dr_Willis goes back to defragging his windows machine..  going on 4 hrs now..
[10:43] <Yerushalmi> Let's see, I spent two months trying to get hibernate to work, I have that recurring initramfs boot problem, I have that thing where I can't turn my wireless back on if I've turned it off unless I reboot...
[10:43] <flexd> Dr_Willis: :D
[10:43] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sudo vim /etc/default/bootlogd
[10:44] <rigved> Yerushalmi: change the No to Yes in the logging option. then restart
[10:44] <Yerushalmi> rigved: vim: command not found
[10:44] <hihihi100> i need help cd'ing to a folder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576394/
[10:44] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: linux-image-2.6.35-26-generic
[10:44] <shadghost> do you have that in apt-get
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  i cant even get hibernat5e to work properly in windows... just to many programs have to many issues..
[10:44] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[10:45] <erUSUL> hihihi100: cd "dir with spaces"
[10:45] <Lint> also lxde crash SESSION manager on CHANGING wallpapers... definitely improvement over XP
[10:45] <adrixo> hi
[10:45] <rigved> Yerushalmi: change the logging to Yes. then restart
[10:45] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: ...then I had that thing where my internet connection simply drops and I can't turn it on unless I log out, log in under another user, log out and log in again, and then I had that thing last week when my desktop disappeared.
[10:45] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: And now this.
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  i change wallpaper here. no issues...
[10:45] <erUSUL> hihihi100: another trick « cd dir\ with\ spaces » also you can use tab completion
[10:45] <erUSUL> !tab | hihihi100
[10:46] <hihihi100> erusul, tahnks
[10:46] <Yerushalmi> rigved: The gedit command gives me a segfault.
[10:46] <shadghost> you cant gedit with out xserv
[10:46] <shadghost> you want nano or vi
[10:46] <rigved> Yerushalmi: use any text editor. sudo vi /etc/default/bootlogd
[10:46] <shadghost> i recomend nano, as it is easier to learn
[10:46] <Fjodor> Yerushalmi: Perhaps you should boot the memtest option if you keep getting segfaults...
[10:46] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo nano /etc/defaults/bootlogd
[10:47] <rigved> Yerushalmi: i didn't know that you did not have X started
[10:47] <Raj007> memtest won't detect any CPU faults.
[10:47] <rigved> Yerushalmi: use nano, vi any one
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> nano 'easy' once you learn that ^ = use the control key. :)
[10:47] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: do you have a network connection with it
[10:47] <rigved> Yerushalmi: just change the logging option to Yes. then restart
[10:47] <Yerushalmi> I've never used vi. I appear to be stuck or something.
[10:47] <Fjodor> Raj007: No, but bad ram may cause bad data to get to programs, making them segfault...
[10:48] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: do :q
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  esc :q  to quit
[10:48] <shadghost> err
[10:48] <shadghost> :!q
[10:48] <grozamorei> using ubuntu for a long time. first time see something like that - can't change rights and flags with $chmod command! for $sudo chmod -R a=rwx * or sudo chmod -R 777 * changing is not working! every file still have -rw------- [600]. plz help!
[10:48] <Raj007> Fjodor: CPU overheating would cause that too right?
[10:48] <shadghost> because you probaly did change something
[10:48] <Yerushalmi> E37: No write since last change
[10:48] <Fjodor> Raj007: Not sure - haven't had that problem
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> when using vi - youmust rember its a 'modal' editor.. You are either in command mode, or insert mode, or oter modes.. use esc key to get back tocommand mode.
[10:48] <Fjodor> Raj007: But possibly
[10:49] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: I have no idea what I'm doing here!
[10:49] <Yerushalmi> hehe
[10:49] <shadghost> grozamorei: -R can KILL systems
[10:49] <Raj007> Fjodor: yeah , i know :) like i said, COULD be CPU too.
[10:49] <Yerushalmi> I tried :q, :!q, Ctrl+C, Esc...
[10:49] <Yerushalmi> I think I'm stuck.
[10:49] <Yerushalmi> Ah, q! worked.
[10:49] <rigved> Yerushalmi: in vi, press Esc key and then the letter i. then change the logging to Yes. then press Esc key and then :wq. then restart
[10:49] <Fjodor> Raj007: It could, but it never hurts to test the ram ;-)
[10:49] <shadghost> ya tat
[10:50] <grozamorei> shadghost, I use it in a safe directory, just a game I download and try to launch
[10:50] <shadghost> sorry i dont use vi, just remverd that it needed that !
[10:50] <rigved> Yerushalmi: you must have made some change and then tried to quit without saving
[10:50] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Esc and i don't appear to actually do anything....
[10:50] <Raj007> Fjodor: agree.
[10:50] <shadghost> grozamorei: only one files should need the +x change it on taht one
[10:50] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: do you have networking on the box
[10:50] <rigved> Yerushalmi: do you have internet connection on that box
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  hit escape key, then the : key, then  you are giving 'commands' use q! to quit.
[10:51] <Yerushalmi> shadghost: I hope so, but I don't know if I do while in tty1.
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Its worth learning vi someday... :)
[10:51] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: How do I get into actual text editing?
[10:51] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: try sudo apt-get install Linux Glados 2.6.32-27-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 1 23:52:12 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Lunux
[10:51] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sudo apt-get install vim
[10:51] <shadghost> err
[10:51] <shadghost> not that
[10:51] <flexd> Yerushalmi: press i?
[10:51] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  'rember vi is modal' - you hit i for insert mode...
[10:51] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.32-29-generic
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: I did but I can't seem to type
[10:52] <grozamorei> shadghost: the point is, the command, any command with changing rights or setting an execution flag is not working. i write it in a console, nothing changing
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> Yerushalmi:  i suggest eitehr quiting and using nano, or quiting and running the vimtutor program toleasn vi basics.
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> Dr_Willis: Or rather I can't seem to navigate
[10:52] <rigved> it's better to run sudo apt-get upgrade then to install the linux kernel headers seperately
[10:52] <shadghost> grozamorei: did you sudo it?
[10:52] <ehidle> vi is pretty evil for beginners
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> Okay, I just used nano
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> To heck with it :p
[10:52] <Fjodor> grozamorei: Which filesystem in on the partition you are in?
[10:52] <Yerushalmi> I dunno why you guys didn't give me nano to begin with :p
[10:52] <Symmetria> whats a reasonable time for a full kernel compile under ubuntu? trying to get a benchmark figure to compare my figures against
[10:52] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: if you listend to me i said nano
[10:52] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sudo nano /etc/default/bootlogd
[10:52] <ikonia> Symmetria: there isn't a reasonable time
[10:52] <Dr_Willis> I can do some complex editiong tasks in vi.. faster then the 'beginner' ubuntu users watchingme can follow.. :)
[10:53] <ehidle> Symmetria: depends totally on hardware
[10:53] <ikonia> Symmetria: custom kernels are not supported here
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> What format do I save to?
[10:53] <erUSUL> Symmetria: depends on your cpu ram and kernel config
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> Oh, never mind
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> It works.
[10:53] <shadghost> Symmetria: forever
[10:53] <rigved> Yerushalmi: change the logging to Yes. save and restart
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> Okay, bootlogging is enabled.
[10:53] <Symmetria> ikonia not trying to go custom kernel, trying to benchmark hardware speed :) on a complete kernel compile
[10:53] <ikonia> Symmetria: don't be silly please.
[10:53] <Dr_Willis> THere was some console text edfitor that was basically like the old dos editor.. but i cant recall its name. or even if its in the repos
[10:53] <Symmetria> thats not silly, thats a good speed benchmark
[10:53] <ikonia> Symmetria: then that is not an appropriate test
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> Now I restart and enter recovery mode
[10:53] <ikonia> Symmetria: sorry, the silly comment was for shadghost
[10:53] <ehidle> make -j on a 2600K with 16GB of RAM takes approximately 90 seconds
[10:53] <Yerushalmi> Try to open the graphics failsafe
[10:53] <AndIrc> Hello world
[10:54] <Yerushalmi> And I'll finally get to see what all those errors were
[10:54] <grozamorei> Fjodor: oh, shi.. it's ntfs! i totally forgot this one. thx, me noob ^( i'm gonna try move it to ext4 now
[10:54] <shadghost> ikonia: it is true
[10:54] <ikonia> shadghost: forever is not an appropriate response for a reasonable question
[10:54] <shadghost> i run my kernal compiles overnight when i do it
[10:54] <Symmetria> *hrm* ehidle will see what this does, Im using phoronix test suite on its build-linux-kernel test, which I presume is building *EVERYTHING*
[10:54] <ikonia> shadghost: that is not "forever" and it's offtopic here
[10:54] <grozamorei> shadghost: yes i did. i'm gonna try move files from ntfs partition, could help. :\
[10:55] <Symmetria> average, 111 seconds
[10:55] <Symmetria> not bad
[10:55] <Yerushalmi> There were a lot of invalid arguments there
[10:55] <ikonia> Symmetria: I would suggest using the benchmarking programs rather than a kernel compile which can be affected by numerous things
[10:55] <rigved> Yerushalmi: nano /var/log/boot
[10:55] <rigved> Yerushalmi: good so you got the error listing?
[10:55] <Fjodor> Symmetria: It also depends on $CONCURRENCY_LEVEL I have it set to 16, meaning that make-kpkg will use 16 threads. I have set it to that because my i7 system has 4 cores and hyperthreading, giving 8 logical cores
[10:55] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Odd. Neither boot nor boot.log has changed.
[10:55] <Symmetria> ikonia been trying various tests, x264 encodes, mp3 encode tests, etc are about the only tests Ive found so far
[10:56] <shadghost> grozamorei: chmod -R 777 /dir/*
[10:56] <ikonia> Symmetria: there are benchmarking tools available.
[10:56] <rigved> Yerushalmi: check /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[10:56] <shadghost> is taht what you did
[10:56] <Symmetria> Fjodor heh, I'm using a concurrency of 24 since I have 12 x Xeon cores and hyperthreading
[10:56] <Fjodor> grozamorei: No need to label yourself a noob. At least you identified the problem as soon as I hinted at it ;-)
[10:56] <Symmetria> *hrm* my x264 benchmark hit 100.52 fps, decent
[10:56] <shadghost> i wonder
[10:57] <Fjodor> Symmetria: Sweet. I just didn't know if you were aware of it :-)
[10:57] <Yerushalmi> messages has that same libglib segfault I mentioned earlier
[10:57] <shadghost> Yerushalmi: sudo mail
[10:57] <Symmetria> interestingly enough, this new system seems pretty stable, I had major problems on the old system running lucid, upgraded it to maverick and it seemed to stabilize
[10:57] <Abdi^Ez> ping me
[10:57] <Symmetria> got this system running maverick from day one and its 100% stable
[10:57] <Abdi^Ez> ping me!
[10:57] <ikonia> Symmetria: this is getting a bit out of the "support" discussion
[10:57] <grozamorei> Fjodor: true, in some way. But! too bad i don't think of it myself, being a developer it's a shame. thank you so much!
[10:57] <ikonia> Abdi^Ez: please stop
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> Abdi^Ez:  and that will prove what exactly
[10:57] <ikonia> Symmetria: maybe #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place, as it sounds interesting
[10:58] <Fjodor> Yerushalmi: Have you considered running memtest86?
[10:58] <ehidle> Symmetria: my GTS 450 encodes H.264 at 125fps :p
[10:58] <Yerushalmi> syslog doesn't have those error messages either
[10:58] <Symmetria> ehidle heh, I was doing 100.52 without any graphics card acceleration
[10:58] <Fjodor> grozamorei: Could happen to all of us, I guess. And np :-)
[10:58] <Yerushalmi> Fjodor: I ran a memtest this morning, all pass
[10:59] <Fjodor> Yerushalmi: Ok, didn't know - sorry
[10:59] <ehidle> Symmetria: yeah, but my GTS 450 cost 1/20 what your twin Xeon cost :p
[10:59] <ikonia> ehidle: Symmetria #ubuntu-offtopic would be a good place to continue this discussion, it looks a solid topic
[10:59] <Yerushalmi> Fjodor: 'sok
[10:59] <Yerushalmi> Fjodor: Appreciate the help :)
[10:59] <grozamorei> shadghost: i already tried that. the problem was in the file system - it was ntfs. no matter what, i can't change rights in ntfs, just in ext-fs. shame on me not thinking of it :\
[10:59] <Fjodor> Yerushalmi: sudo aptitude install --reinstall libglib perhaps?
[10:59] <Fjodor> Yerushalmi: And ok, thanks :-)
[11:00] <shadghost> oooo
[11:00] <shadghost> grozamorei: you dont have the usergroup for the files
[11:00] <thevishy> !usb
[11:00] <shadghost> grozamorei: i have had that problum on a ntfs harddrive
[11:00] <shadghost> grozamorei: i think
[11:00] <shadghost> so try chaing group to a group you are in first
[11:00] <thevishy> anyone here on acer netbook with ubuntu ? how is the installation ?
[11:01] <Symmetria> talking slightly more on topic, are there any SERIOUS disadvantages to running file systems on non-partitioned drives
[11:01] <shadghost> !aspierone | thevishy
[11:01] <ikonia> Symmetria: depends which file system
[11:01] <Symmetria> (where drive size > X, it seems to be easiest to throw the file system straight onto the drive without partitioning)
[11:01] <shadghost> !aspireone | thevishy
[11:01] <Fjodor> Symmetria: Not sure I get what you meen. There should be at least one partition, right? Or am I missing something basic here?
[11:01] <Symmetria> ikonia I'm running xfs on all the really big ones
[11:01] <dejan_> how can I delete log files from smuxi ?
[11:01] <shadghost> thevishy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[11:01] <thevishy> ubotu didnt say anything
[11:02] <Symmetria> Fjodor no, as in mkfs.xfs /dev/sdb for example
[11:02] <Symmetria> no partition information whatsoever, file system on raw block device
[11:02] <rigved> Yerushalmi: update-rc.d -f bootlogd remove
[11:02] <rigved> Yerushalmi: update-rc.d bootlogd defaults 08
[11:02] <ikonia> Symmetria: ok, but how do you have it partitioned currently ?
[11:02] <bird> how to use
[11:02] <rigved> Yerushalmi: run these two commands in the same order
[11:02] <Yerushalmi> Sec, I'm trying to get ethernet to work
[11:02] <rigved> Yerushalmi: then restart
[11:02] <Fjodor> Symmetria: Ok, didn't know that was an option - obviously I can't recommend anything about it then, sorry
[11:03] <Yerushalmi> I apparently only have a loopback. Okay. In the meantime.
[11:03] <Symmetria> Fjodor only reason to really do it is when you have issues with partitioning because of the size
[11:03] <Symmetria> ikonia at the moment Im running no partition
[11:03] <Symmetria> straight on the block size
[11:03] <Symmetria> block device I mean
[11:03] <jiltdil> if i forget my grub password how should i overcome this?
[11:03] <Symmetria> just wondering if there is a good reason to change that in the new arrays Im gonna add
[11:03] <Yerushalmi> The first command gave me "Removing any system startup links for /etc/init.d/bootlogd"
[11:03] <ikonia> Symmetria: ok, for me, that's not great, more so as you want to run this as a mirror
[11:04] <Fjodor> Symmetria: Ok, well thank you for broadening my horizon :-)
[11:04] <Yerushalmi> "Died at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 57."
[11:04] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Is that right?
[11:04] <Symmetria> ./dev/sdd               26T  9.8T   16T  39% /diskspace4
[11:04] <Symmetria> thats an example
[11:04] <ikonia> Symmetria: for me personally, for a production server, there are certain file systems that need to be seperate
[11:04] <ikonia> Symmetria: certain ones which can be personal prefence, and certain ones which it doesn't matter
[11:04] <Symmetria> ikonia heh, we only do that on the SAN's though, not on the base operating system install
[11:04] <Lint> BACK TO LXDE, HOW DOES IT INITIALIZES KEYBOARD
[11:04] <Symmetria> so the base operating system install is broken down into partitions
[11:04] <rigved> Yerushalmi: the first part is right. not the second message
[11:04] <ikonia> Symmetria: ahh, sorry, thought you where saying on your OS
[11:05] <ikonia> Symmetria: in that case xfs will work fine on one "big" file system,
[11:05] <Symmetria> then on the high capacity disk storage we're using base as per paste above
[11:05] <rigved> Yerushalmi: try that with sudo
[11:05] <ikonia> Symmetria: apologies, though you where discussing the OS
[11:05] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Okay, that worked
[11:05] <Yerushalmi> Now the second line
[11:05] <Symmetria> I'm about to add another file system to the machine, 90TB in a single go
[11:05] <rigved> Yerushalmi: use sudo in the second line too
[11:05] <Lint> i have to hold shift typing it as caps lock stucked>>> any command to reset keyboard?
[11:06] <rigved> Yerushalmi: then restart
[11:06] <Yerushalmi> warning: bootlogd start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match LSB Default-Start values (S)
[11:06] <ikonia> Symmetria: does xfs support 90TB ?
[11:06] <Yerushalmi> warning: bootlogd stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none)
[11:06] <claudio_> server irc.hf-irc.net
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> Lint:  not that ive ever seen/heard about. -  You could try switching to the console and back.
[11:06] <ikonia> Symmetria: I thought it had a limit of 12TB (or something like that)
[11:06] <Yerushalmi> followed by a bunch of file movement things.
[11:06] <Symmetria> ikonia under 32bit systems you have a limit of 16TB
[11:06] <thevishy> ?
[11:06] <Fjodor> ikonia: Isn't it at 2PB?
[11:06] <claudio_> irc.hf-irc.net
[11:07] <claudio_> server irc.hf-irc.net
[11:07] <thevishy> is live usb creator same as usb creator ?
[11:07] <Symmetria> on a 64bit system you can go way higher than that
[11:07] <shadghost> Fjodor: i think it is bigger then that on 64 bit
[11:07] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Was that an expected output?
[11:07] <Symmetria> we're already doing 26TB in a single system
[11:07] <ikonia> Symmetria: ahh that was it, I new there was a limit somewhere, but it's 32bit
[11:07] <thevishy> !usbwindows
[11:07] <Symmetria> yeah that 32bit limit made me wanna cry when we first ran into it
[11:07] <Fjodor> shadghost: Ok
[11:07] <ikonia> the 64bit is 8 exbibyte
[11:08] <Fjodor> ikonia: Ok, thanks
[11:08] <Lint> Dr_Willis, in console it's fine but in x not :angry:
[11:08] <rigved> Yerushalmi: no that wasn't
[11:08] <rigved> Yerushalmi: hold on
[11:08] <shadghost> The ext4 filesystem can support volumes with sizes up to 1 exabyte and files with sizes up to 16 terabytes
[11:08] <Symmetria> heh I was rather excited the day we got our first really huge MD1000 SAN, plugged it all in, and discovered.... machine was still running 32bit install and I couldnt use it
[11:08] <Symmetria> lol
[11:08] <shadghost> from wikipedia
[11:08] <Symmetria> was not impressed :)
[11:08] <thevishy> what software do I use to create a USB that can install bu netbook ubuntu version ?
[11:08] <Symmetria> shadghost *hrm* any idea what the file size limit on xfs is?
[11:08] <ikonia> Symmetria: 8eibyte
[11:08] <ikonia> Symmetria: 8 ebibyte
[11:08] <Symmetria> that 16 terabyte file size limit is gonna cause me problems
[11:09] <ikonia> ooh file size
[11:09] <Symmetria> ikonia is that file system size
[11:09] <Symmetria> or file size
[11:09] <shadghost> XFS is a 64-bit file system. It supports a maximum file system size of 8 exbibytes minus one byte, though this is subject to block limits imposed by the host operating system.
[11:09] <flexd> Symmetria: you have a single file that is 16TB big?
[11:09] <Symmetria> flexd scientific data, potentially, very easily
[11:09] <Symmetria> files coming outta evlbi experiments and off things like the LHC
[11:09] <flexd> Symmetria: Can't you split it up? :-/
[11:10] <Symmetria> flexd heh, probably could find a way to do so, but its a pain in the backside :)
[11:10] <rigved> Yerushalmi: ya i think that's fine. no restart
[11:10] <thevishy> folks any idea on how to burn an iso to a USB Flash drive so that it can install the OS for me like  DVD does
[11:10] <rigved> Yerushalmi: *now restart
[11:10] <HF_acid> thevishy: unetbootin is a popular option
[11:10] <Fjodor> !usb | thevishy
[11:10] <jiltdil> thevishy:use unetbootin
[11:11] <thevishy> the links say usb creator software basically but what I found to download was live usb creator wonder if they are same
[11:11] <shadghost> Symmetria: i still want to see a single 16TB sicatific data file
[11:11] <shadghost> most of the times they are broken into parts
[11:11] <Fjodor> thevishy: I should think so
[11:11] <Symmetria> hrm, another random question, has anyone attempted to bond multiple network cards under linux using something like LACP, and is it purely software dependant or is it hardware dependant as well
[11:11] <thevishy> Live word is a bit confusing as I dont want a CD based OS ...
[11:11] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Restarting
[11:11] <Fjodor> thevishy: To the best of my knowledge, most, if not all, ubuntu images can be used as both live media and installer
[11:12] <Symmetria> heh shadghost I'm already starting to see files in excess of 5TB coming outta the HG project and outta evlbi stuff, and they are growing in size by the day
[11:12] <jiltdil> thevishy: use unetbootin it is for making live usb
[11:12] <thevishy> what is the size suggested for Linux including Swap for 1 GB netbook with 160 GB hdd
[11:12] <coz_> Symmetria,  i have never purposely bond 2 network cards but did have 2 cards connected at the same time
[11:12] <dxy> anyone here have manage to install ubuntu on PS3 phat 3.15?
[11:12] <coz_> Symmetria,   only did that once ...no problems just seemed redundant
[11:12] <rigved> Yerushalmi: after restart, check /var/log/boot
[11:13] <Symmetria> coz, *hrm* Im wondering if I can bond 2 x 10G intel NICs
[11:13] <erUSUL> Symmetria: bond driver is software
[11:13] <Fjodor> Symmetria: I think there is something on bonding in the Networking-HOWTO
[11:13] <Raj007> thevishy: depends on what do you want to do. Just normal desktop use, 1GB would be enough. Otherwise i would recommend 4GB minimum. (anyone correct me if i'm wrong)
[11:13] <Symmetria> and if the software load on the bond driver is gonna kill the machine at that kinda network rate
[11:13] <arkanabar> thevishy: I generally suggest between ram +0.5GB to 2x ram.
[11:14] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Just so we're clear, because I don't know if you were around when I discussed it or not, but the error messages I'm trying to access are those when I go to recovery mode and select the failsafe graphics mode, yes?
[11:14] <Symmetria> arkanabar I'd agree with that on machines with low levels of ram, I'd disagree with it on machines with large amounts of ram
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> I always put a little swap partition on every hd i can. :) in case a live cd is needed. it can use swap.
[11:14] <rigved> Yerushalmi: this should log all boot messages
[11:14] <arkanabar> thevishy: I'd suggest 2gb; you have the disk space to spare.
[11:14] <rigved> Yerushalmi: are you getting those?
[11:14] <Fjodor> thevishy, Raj007: In the olden days, one would normally use swap sizes double the ram size, but I'm not sure if that still holds
[11:15] <erUSUL> no it does not holds in the days of multi GiB rams
[11:15] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Well, this time I'm not getting any messages at all, just a blank screen. Hang on.
[11:15] <Symmetria> I normally run about 16gigs of swap *MAX* and thats on machines that have 64gig+ RAM, anything more than that is pointless
[11:15] <jiltdil> thevishy,Raj007: use swap according to ur application work
[11:15] <Symmetria> so thats a quater of the ram size
[11:15] <arkanabar> I've been known to disable swap entirely with only 1.5gb of RAM, but you gotta watch your system; if RAM fills up, the system locks.
[11:15] <Fjodor> erUSUL: Thanks
[11:15] <rigved> Yerushalmi: check /var/log/boot
[11:15] <X-Sleepy-X> hi, I need help. I am stuck at initramfs when I boot ubuntu 10.04 i386. I tried to fix some error with fsck in recovery mode and I cannot even mount /dev/sda from live cd
[11:16] <searching> how to disable Ubuntu Software Center from Menu?
[11:16] <erUSUL> if you plan to suspend to disk then you need swap == ram . if you wont s2disk then less swap
[11:16] <rigved> searching: you mean how to remove the menu entry for the Ubuntu Software Center?
[11:16] <Symmetria> arkanabar heh, linux has a habit of doing nasty things when ram runs out even if you have swap :( particularly if your ram is being eaten by things like TCP windows, heh, push your tcp windows 2 high on a linux machine, run outta ram, it will kernel panic, irrespective of how much swap is available
[11:16] <searching> yes
[11:17] <Symmetria> before it even touches the swap
[11:17] <Fjodor> erUSUL: Doing some gene prediction as late as today, however, I maxed out my 12Gb and used a healthy chunk of swap as well. And good point on the suspend thing!
[11:17] <arkanabar> erUSUL: that's why I was suggesting ram + 0.5GB.
[11:17] <erUSUL> most kernel memory is unswapable
[11:17] <rigved> searching: right-click on the Applications menu, edit menus. then untick Software Center
[11:17] <Raj007> Fjodor: sorry for late reply, was watching cricket. I agree, i only use 512MB swap for the heck of it and it never gets used for normal usage. (6GB RAM)
[11:17] <bpx-dev> guys has anyone else been having login issues after the last round of kernel updates?  System keps jumping in to terminal login and after manually starting x i have to F7 over to my normal screen to use the desktop every time, its driving me up the wall
[11:17] <searching> ok thanks
[11:17] <thevishy> does unetbootin take care of formatting the usb drive oo >
[11:17] <Fjodor> searching: right-click on the menu, select Edit Menus
[11:17] <thevishy> too
[11:18] <arkanabar> thevishy: don't think so, and few people are suggesting unetbootin any more.
[11:18] <Fjodor> searching, rigved: Sorry, didn't see rigveds answer
[11:19] <thevishy> so what to use arkanabar'
[11:19] <Raj007> Fjodor: you meant hibernate?
[11:19] <Lint> why "setxkbmap us,ru -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" doesn't work??
[11:19] <Raj007> Fjodor: Suspend doesn't use any of the swap.
[11:19] <thevishy> i mean i formatted manually now
[11:19] <arkanabar> thevishy: let me go check out pendrivelinux.  what OS?
[11:19] <thevishy> so its fine now
[11:19] <rigved> Fjodor: no probs
[11:19] <Fjodor> Raj007: That's one term for it, I believe, yes
[11:19] <thevishy> Windows XP
[11:19] <thevishy> this is a azer netbook
[11:19] <Fjodor> Raj007: Suspend-to-ram
[11:19] <Yerushalmi> rigved: boot.log hasn't changed.
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> thevishy:  that pendrive linux web site has several tools to use
[11:20] <antivirtel> hello, my Chrome sends en-US user agent, but my lang of the lucid & the chrome lang is hu-HU, how can I change that?
[11:20] <Lint> ffs
[11:20] <Yerushalmi> rigved: boot itself is now entirely blank and I couldn't even read its contents with nano without sudo
[11:20] <arkanabar> thevishy: what OS are you planning to install on your USB drive?
[11:20] <rigved> Yerushalmi: /var/log/boot
[11:20] <Raj007> For hibernate to work, you need your swap to be atleast the same amount as your RAM plus a little more.
[11:20] <rigved> Yerushalmi: use sudo nano /var/log/boot
[11:21] <erUSUL> antivirtel: in preferences>under the hood. languages and ... settings
[11:21] <Yerushalmi> rigved: *nod* like I said, it gave me access denied, so I opened it with sudo, and it's entirely blank
[11:21] <rigved> Yerushalmi: it's blank even when you use sudo?
[11:21] <rigved> Yerushalmi: ok
[11:21] <Yerushalmi> yup
[11:21] <Fjodor> Raj007: Sorry, I confused myself
[11:21] <Raj007> suspend to ram will need no swap
[11:21] <ehidle> uh oh
[11:21] <rigved> Yerushalmi: what about /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[11:22] <ehidle> why oh why could VMWare not have included a simple text editor in the console in ESXi ....
[11:22] <antivirtel> erUSUL yes, I saw it, every thing is hungarian there...
[11:22] <erUSUL> antivirtel: then i dunno :/
[11:23] <Raj007> Fjodor: urm don't apologize, heck i'm learning heck loads by just staying here and idling :) (and ofcourse watching cricket)
[11:23] <antivirtel> :( thanks
[11:23] <Raj007> Fjodor: i'm a nooblet :)
[11:23] <rigved> Yerushalmi: tail -f /var/log/boot, tail -f /var/log/messages, tail -f /var/log/syslog
[11:23] <rigved> Yerushalmi: try ^^ these three commands
[11:23] <Yerushalmi> rigved: Pretty much the same they were before, all sorts of messages but they don't include those errors
[11:24] <rigved> Yerushalmi: hmmm...ok
[11:24] <X-Sleepy-X> not to nag or anything but is there anything I can do?
[11:24] <rigved> Yerushalmi: it seems that boot logging is broken in 9.10 onwards
[11:24] <Yerushalmi> Wonderful... hehe
[11:24] <arkanabar> X-Sleepy-X: might look into burning partedmagic onto a live disk or some such.
[11:25] <X-Sleepy-X> ok tbd
[11:25] <X-Sleepy-X> thx*
[11:26] <erUSUL> X-Sleepy-X: sda is not a partition no wonder you couldn't mount it. you have to fsck the ubuntu partition from a livecd. also the exact error you get just before landing in intramfs would help
[11:26] <hihihi100> The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get., how can I then delete a program installed via software sources, I only get to see that message every time I try
[11:27] <bilal>  can anybody tell me whats the good alternate to autocad for ubuntu
[11:27] <arkanabar> X-Sleepy-X: oops, erUSUL is right!  try mounting /dev/sda1 instead.
[11:27] <pehden> bleh
[11:27] <Raj007> hihihi100: could you rephrase that?
[11:27] <pehden> simple question what is needed for proftp conf to restrict users to home but allow certian user to not be restricted
[11:27] <erUSUL> hihihi100: « pgrep -l xapian  » returns anything?
[11:27] <ashyoff> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffs
[11:27] <rigved> Yerushalmi: you using 10.10
[11:27] <ikonia> pehden: chroot and chroot exceptions, I know this can eb done with vsftpd, not sure about proftpd
[11:28] <rigved> ?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> bilal:  depends on you cad needs. I seem to recall some big name cad getting released last year for Linux.  then theres qcad, and i think 1 other.
[11:28] <Yerushalmi> 10.04 I believe
[11:28] <bilal> i need autocad 2006 or later
[11:28] <Yerushalmi> I'm always confused by the linux version numbering
[11:28] <erUSUL> bilal: brics cad ?
[11:28] <Yerushalmi> er... ubuntu version numbering I mean
[11:28] <rigved> Yerushalmi: well you are unable to get to a GUI environment, right?
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> bilal:  if you need 'autocad' then you better check teh wine app database...
[11:28] <Lint> omfg it's "setxkbmap us,ru -option -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle" that stuff is cryptic
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> bilal:  theres other cad programs out.
[11:28] <ashyoff> pirate software on sale
[11:29] <pehden> ikonia I found something oline for it before but for some reason i cant find it anynore
[11:29] <hihihi100> lol, yes raj007, It seems I installed egoboo via softare sources, but thats an outdated version, O i visited their official egoboo site and found a newer version that I installed via command line: now, when I try to delete egoboo (outdated) via software sources, all I get is a warning saying: The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get.
[11:29] <searching> I have xfce meniu not gnome how to disable than
[11:29] <bilal>  wine didnot work for me
[11:29] <ikonia> pehden: I imagine it's the same as vsftpd's base concept where you chroot all users to their home directory, but then create an exception list
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> searching:  have xfce menu ehere?
[11:29] <Fjodor> searching: Try to ask in #xubuntu
[11:29] <Lint> ashyoff, sense, you make none
[11:29] <searching> yes
[11:29] <Yerushalmi> rigved: I have a backup installation on another drive I can use for emergencies, but no, I can't get to a GUI environment. I may just need to access the data from the other installation, copy it onto another disk, and buy a new drive
[11:29] <anarchist> um ubuntu numbering is easy, YY.MM
[11:29] <searching> ok
[11:29] <bilal> i want that program that is operated just like autocad
[11:30] <Lint> bilal, with dwg support?
[11:30] <Raj007> hihihi100: ok that's new to me. Someone else might help you.
[11:30] <bilal> yes
[11:30] <rigved> Yerushalmi: have you tried reinstalling GNOME?
[11:30] <hihihi100> erusul, that command alone shows nothing
[11:30] <erUSUL> bilal: http://www.bricsys.com/en_INTL/bricscad/index.jsp
[11:30] <Yerushalmi> I don't have a net connection in this prompt and don't know how to get one
[11:31] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sudo init 3
[11:31] <X-Sleepy-X> I tried but doesn't work
[11:31] <rigved> Yerushalmi: does that work?
[11:31] <hihihi100> wait, I am currently downloading FGFS scenery via terrasync, now terrasync uses its own, different, terminal, could that be the reason?
[11:31] <Yerushalmi> rigved: It didn't do anything visible
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> !runlevel
 thanks, it works for me
[11:31] <rigved> Yerushalmi: oh ya, i remember, there's no inittab
[11:32] <Raj007> hihihi100: one question, how did you install the newer version ? compiling? binary download? ppa?
[11:32] <rigved> Yerushalmi: this won't work
[11:32] <Yerushalmi> *sigh*
[11:32] <hihihi100> compiled from source (tar.gz)
[11:32] <Raj007> hihihi100: ahh
[11:32] <rigved> Yerushalmi: if you are in runlevel 1, then you need to get to runlevel 3 for networking to work
[11:32] <ikonia> rigved: run level 2
[11:33] <ikonia> rigved: ubuntu doesn't use the old sysvinit model any more
[11:33] <hihihi100> raj007, I tried to follow the standard procedure (./configure make sudo make install), but the readme inside Egoboo has its own instructions. I had to follow the readme instructions, given that ./configure didnt do anything
[11:33] <pehden> ikonia do you know of any site that has an example of this
[11:33] <rigved> Dr_Willis, ikonia: ok. i'll check it out
[11:33] <ikonia> pehden: nope, never dont it in proftpd, only vsftpd
[11:33] <searching> another problem: after playing vlc system not shuting down complete
[11:33] <bigslick> oi
[11:34] <Yerushalmi> rigved: How do I do that?
[11:34] <Tewr> Hey. I'm trying to get ubuntu 10.10 live cd running on a lg1310g laptop. I've tried starting two times with the "try ubuntu" option, but after a while stuff stops loading and I only have a black screen with a mouse. That being said... is there a chance it will work better if I use the install option instead?
[11:34] <Raj007> hihihi100: well it's something i've never used. Why don't you just uninstall the compiled version, then uninstall the old version?
[11:34] <bajk-tragbar> hm, any ideas why I cannot connect to a WEP secured WiFi connection? It gets stuck at "Configuring interface". Connecting to a WPA2 secured connection works flawlessly
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Tewr:  whats the video chipset?
[11:34] <pehden> ikonia ok then a script for vsftp then
[11:34] <Tewr> dr_willis: good question, give me a minute
[11:34] <ikonia> pehden: it's not a script, it's just a config option, and those won't be valid for proftpd
[11:34] <mrintegrity> cat gnome3-team-gnome3-maverick.list
[11:34] <mrintegrity> cat gnome3-team-gnome3-maverick.list [A[A
[11:35] <mrintegrity> can anyone tell me how to ppa-purge gnome 3 repositories? stupid question I know but nothing seems to work...
[11:35] <Raj007> hihihi100: make uninstall ?
[11:35] <hihihi100> raj007 I may try that if what I have in mind fails: im waiting for terrasync to finish its own donwload
[11:35] <Raj007> hihihi100: just checked , it's a game :)
[11:35] <Papyros> how can i find with a command all the installed programs?
[11:35] <Tewr> Dr_willis:  ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[11:36] <pehden> ikonia shouldnt be to different
[11:36] <linxeh> are there any cloud sync tools like ubuntu one, but that work across ubuntu, macosx and windows ?
[11:36] <Tewr> Dr_Willis: The screen is black but there IS a mouse, that I can move...
[11:36] <mrintegrity> linxeh: dropbox
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> Tewr:  Hmm. You may want to check teh forums for that card. its possible its just a bad iso/download.
[11:36] <mrintegrity> linxeh: works much better than U1 too
[11:36] <ikonia> pehden: it is
[11:36] <linxeh> mrintegrity: ok, and is this trustworthy?
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> linxeh:  ubuntuone had a beta-windows client out..  theres always dropbox also.
[11:36] <kantor> hello
[11:36] <kantor> it is possible to make all the RAM in the system to be recognized by linux as lowmem ?
[11:36] <Papyros> how can i find all the installed programs in my ubuntu ?
[11:36] <linxeh> Dr_Willis: yes, but no mac client (yet)
[11:37] <mrintegrity> linxeh: well, it's used much more than ubuntu one.. i been using it a long time.. 2gb free
[11:37] <linxeh> mrintegrity: ok cool, I'll give it a go
[11:37] <Tewr> Dr_Willis: ok thx
[11:37] <linxeh> thanks
[11:37] <mrintegrity> linxeh: as trustworthy as ubuntu one i would say
[11:37] <mrintegrity> damn fast to synch files too
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> I can even get to dropbox from my android phone. :)
[11:38] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: curious, what do you use as your android phone?
[11:38] <linxeh> thanks guys
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Raj007:  samsung captivate.
[11:38] <Raj007> at&t :)
[11:39] <Raj007> very nice phone though.
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> If you cut out all the cell phone providers that have people sayng bad things about them (many justified) then theres none to use at all. :)
[11:40] <Raj007> tru.dat
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> it will be interesting to see where cell phones are at in 2+ years..  Perhaps we will have a CellBuntu. :)
[11:40]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for Dr_Willis
[11:41] <Raj007> well, with quad-cores showing up next year :)
[11:41]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for Raj007
[11:41] <coz_> ubundroid
[11:41] <rigved> Yerushalmi: sorry no clue. try re-installing and using the backup
[11:41]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for rigved
[11:41] <s7r> i have run by mistake rm -rf /etc/init.d/openvpn instead of /etc/openvpn -- what can i do to bring it back?
[11:41]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for s7r
[11:41] <Yerushalmi> rigved: *nod* It looks like my computer is finally, finally shot to hell. Oh well. Thanks for trying
[11:41]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for Yerushalmi
[11:42] <rigved> Yerushalmi: couldn't help much, but you are welcome
[11:42] <|Long|> anyone know where i can turn on sftp on?
[11:42]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for |Long|
[11:42] <Yerushalmi> You tried, and that's what's important, right?
[11:42] <Yerushalmi> Appreciate it :)
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> |Long|:  install the openssh service and it should include that i thought.
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> |Long|:  or in the sshd.conf file ma have settings for it.
[11:42] <mrintegrity> ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 failes with error;: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: gnome3-team gnome3. Does anyone know why that is and how to fix it?
[11:42]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for mrintegrity
[11:43] <|Long|> Dr_Willis, thanks
[11:43] <erUSUL> !ops | Mkaysi bot?
[11:43]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for erUSUL
[11:43]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for ubottu
[11:43] <s7r> any advice for me?
[11:43] <gerry__> Has anyone successfully installed perlqt4 on ubuntu
[11:43]  * Mkaysi jots down a new quote for gerry__
[11:43] <Mkaysi> Sprry, i'm having technical problems
[11:44] <gavimobile> folks, I accidently deleted a lot of important files with ubuntu live cd, and to make it worse, I emptied the trash bin. I found some stuff in .trash-999 however I don't see everything. do I have a way of restoring some of the stuff?
[11:44] <Raj007> Dr_Willis: that is a good question by s7r, is there an undelete utility for EXTx ?
[11:45] <mrintegrity> Raj007: no there is not
[11:45] <jiltdil> Papyros:dpkg -l
[11:45] <s7r> Raj007: don't know
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> Raj007:  theres tools for that.. good luck getting any actual data recovered.. :)
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> !undelete
[11:45] <SirCane> gavimobile from your backup ?
[11:45] <s7r> i can;t see no trash bin on my desktop anyways
[11:45] <sacarlson> gavimobile: there is a few tools that might help including package restore
[11:45] <schneider_> hi guise
[11:45] <Raj007> hah out :) sorry i'm happy watching cricket.
[11:45] <Raj007> but was there EVER an undelete utility?
[11:46] <zombie-robot> is it possible to put a song in ipad library without pc?
[11:46] <Raj007> for linux based OS?
[11:46] <mrintegrity> Raj007: I recovered a bunch of files a few times, problem was that parts of images were corrupt etc and some files were not recoverable
[11:46] <schneider_> i cant get the logitech webcam drivers working in skype - what should i do?
[11:46] <mrintegrity> Raj007: i seem to remember a utility for ext2 but could be wrong
[11:46] <Raj007> mrintegrity: is there any FS which would recover it?
[11:46] <SirCane> Raj007 yeah, backup
[11:46] <Raj007> hah
[11:47] <Raj007> so it hasn't changed.
[11:47] <mrintegrity> Raj007: it doesn't really work like that.. once you "delete" a file the file system says that the space is free.. so it can only be "undeleted" until you write something to disk again
[11:47] <schneider_> guys? Its really important
[11:47] <mrintegrity> Raj007: if the filesystem was really saving the deleted files you wouldn't really have deleted them in the first place.. thats what the recycle bin concept is for
[11:48] <Raj007> gotcha.
[11:48] <gavimobile> sacarlson: thanks
[11:48] <sacarlson> Raj007: I do a search in synaptic for undel and I see three packages that might work but I've never tried them recover, maicrescue, e2undel
[11:48] <tsimpson> Mkaysi: just don't bring bots into #ubuntu, or any channel without asking first
[11:49] <Raj007> sacarlson: it wasn't me looking for it, to be honest. I wanted to know if it's possible. It was s7r who wanted to know.
[11:49] <gavimobile> sacarlson: my partiton is ntfs however I used the live cd to delete
[11:49] <mrintegrity> schneider_: what does it say in dmesg just after you plug in the camera?
[11:49] <Raj007> sacarlson: and he quit.
[11:49] <sacarlson> Raj007: sorry I don't look back far enuf
[11:50] <mrintegrity> schneider_: if you have no idea what im talking about you could try installing "cheese" and seeing if it detects your webcam
[11:50] <mrintegrity> schneider_: then you would at least know it works
[11:50] <Raj007> sacarlson: no apologies. I don't like them. By you mentioning all those undelete utilities in the channel, you probably helped someone who might use it.
[11:50] <sacarlson> gavimobile: for ntfs there may be better tools in the windows world for file recovery
[11:50] <Raj007> sacarlson: heck yeah tons of them on NTFS
[11:50] <schneider_> mrintegrity: cheese detects my webcam
[11:51] <mrintegrity> schneider_: so what does skype say about it?
[11:51] <mrintegrity> screenshot of the video tab in the settings would be good
[11:51] <schneider_> mrintegrity: my partner isnt able to hear or to see me
[11:52] <SirCane> some file systems are easier to recover deleted files. fat32 you can recover from the hidden allowcation table if you know the directory location. ntfs has shaddow copies that can be recovered pretty easy
[11:52] <jiltdil> use
[11:52] <jiltdil> Davory  for data recovery it is a fornsic tool
[11:53] <Flynsarmy> i can do a find -name "*.jpg" to find jpg files, but how can i find jpg, gif and png files with a single command?
[11:53] <erUSUL> Flynsarmy: add multiple -name clauses
[11:54] <gavimobile> jiltdil: thanks, do you know how long a typical scan takes?
[11:55] <Sia-> is nay special version to install on mac intel? now ve installed ubuntu everything work fine, but shutdown hang on. disabled splash screen but still hang on, reboot work fine
[11:55] <Sia-> any idea what is wrong?
[11:55] <schneider_> mrintegrity: any idea?
[11:55] <jiltdil> gavimobile:depends upon the size but it recovers all
[11:58] <jiltdil> u can  also use winHex
[11:59] <barberan> guys
[11:59] <erUSUL> !faq 5
[11:59] <barberan> !faq 5
[11:59] <barberan> !faq
[11:59] <erUSUL> sorry; wrong window
[11:59] <CngZ> Hello, I search a fingerprint recognition software, do you know another one than fprint ?
[12:01] <Flynsarmy> erUSUL: find -name "*.jpg" -name "*.png" -name "*.gif" this does not work
[12:02] <erUSUL> Flynsarmy: you need -o between them; sorry i missed that
[12:03] <erUSUL> Flynsarmy: find -name "*.jpg" -o -name "*.png" -o -name "*.gif"
[12:03] <Flynsarmy> erUSUL: got it, thanks
[12:03] <erUSUL> Flynsarmy: -o == or
[12:05] <mrintegrity> how do you remove a ppa when ppa-purge doesn't work?
[12:06] <jiltdil> from synpatic package manager
[12:06] <mrintegrity> jiltdil: will that downgradepackages as needed etc?
[12:07] <zim> Hi all. Quick Q I have just duplicated a vbox VM and changed the mac address of the network card so they play nice together but now eth0 is eth1. What is the new iftab?
[12:07] <olit> erUSUL, i m using aview to view image  -- jpg format, it is giving error
[12:07] <jiltdil> yes u can
[12:08] <Dingens> hi there, can you please give me some help with a little emergency here? i cant mount my internal hard drives anymore. i can still "dd if=/dev/sda", mount still sees the filesystem type, but it doesnt mount it but exits without error message
[12:08] <mrintegrity> Dingens: anything in dmesg after the mount command?
[12:09] <mrintegrity> jiltdil: ok, i disabled the repo in synaptic, how do i downgrade the packages now?
[12:09] <zim> i.e. where is ubuntu storing eth0 = mac XX:XX ... ?
[12:09] <Dingens> mrintegrity, no, nothing, neither in any logs. strange thing is: i can still mount other devices, like loopbacks or usb hard drives
[12:09] <erUSUL> olit: the error being? my cristall ball broke yesterday ...
[12:09] <mrintegrity> Dingens: and if you just type "mount" you cant see that it's moutned
[12:09] <erUSUL> zim: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:09] <mrintegrity> Dingens: and what do you mean by dd? have you made an image of it to another location?
[12:09] <Dingens> mrintegrity, no, no internal drives at all are mounted
[12:09] <zim> erUSUL: Many thanks
[12:09] <mrintegrity> Dingens: what is the os booted from?
[12:10] <olit> erUSUL,  invlid magic-not p?m family format
[12:11] <Dingens> mrintegrity, i booted from an usb hard drive. with dd i just printed the first bytes and recognized the filesystem header, so it still can read the devices bytewise
[12:11] <mrintegrity> Dingens: ok, and fdisk still shows the relevant partitions / filesystems?
[12:11] <erUSUL> olit: corrupted file? not really a jpeg?
[12:12] <olit> erUSUL, no i can see it gnome
[12:12] <Dingens> mrintegrity, yes, fdisk shows everything normal, and i still can boot and read every disk with the parallel-boot windows
[12:12] <mrintegrity> Dingens: very strange..
[12:13] <mrintegrity> Dingens: if you mount /dev/whatver1 /media/wherever it exits without error?
[12:13] <focus> help
[12:13] <mrintegrity> as if it was mounted for real
[12:13] <zim> erUSUL: (your crystal ball) commonly known as Pre-Cog.lib :)
[12:13] <mrintegrity> Dingens: but there is nothing showing in /media/wherever and "mount" on it's own doesn't show a moutned fs?
[12:14] <erUSUL> XD
[12:14] <Dingens> mrintegrity, the install is a 8.04LTS, directly after install everything worked fine. my last actions before the symptom occured were an update to the latest repo-8.04LTS and i put my /tmp into ram. can that have anything to do with it?
[12:14] <erUSUL> olit: then i dunno sorry; never used aview...
[12:14] <Dingens> mrintegrity, mount shows of course mounted filesystems, but not my internal hard drives
[12:14] <olit> erUSUL, its alright
[12:14] <Dingens> mrintegrity, in /media i only have usb drives
[12:15] <mrintegrity> Dingens: possibly if you made an error somewehere.. i am not sure exactly of your situation really.. why did you now boot from usb if the os is installed on the local disks
[12:15] <Dingens> mrintegrity, nono, i installed to usb drive
[12:15] <mrintegrity> ah
[12:15] <eaxxae> what's the best virus scanner for linux ?
[12:15] <mrintegrity> and it's the physical disk (not usb) that you can't mount
[12:16] <Dingens> mrintegrity, yes
[12:16] <mrintegrity> eaxxae: clamav afaik
[12:16] <eaxxae> clamav picks up everything norton/etc do ?
[12:16] <apter> Do you really need an virus scanner for linux?
[12:16] <mrintegrity> eaxxae: no idea, apter not really unless your protecting windows machines
[12:16] <eaxxae> guess apter has never heard of a rootkit or buffer overflow... lmao
[12:17] <mrintegrity> Dingens: sorry but i don't see why that would happen really
[12:17] <eaxxae> yeah, linux boxes never get rooted *rolls eyes*
[12:17] <SirCane> an antivirus program isn't going to stop that
[12:17] <SirCane> you want intruder detection for that
[12:17] <mrintegrity> eaxxae: stop trolling, ofc it gets rooted but it's not normally via  virus which is what his question was
[12:18] <administrator> victory
[12:18] <hichi> can you find out if you got rooted by scanning from usb?
[12:18] <eaxxae> mrintegrity: I'm not trolling... he was
[12:18] <apter> sorry just asked
[12:18] <Dingens> mrintegrity, do you have any advise on how to narrow it down? can i provoke mount to give me an error message? are there other tools than mount? can there be a ubuntu/gnome service involved, conflicting with mount? or maybe automatically unmounting my filesystems?
[12:18] <mrintegrity> Dingens: good question.. im thinknig about it
[12:19] <mrintegrity> Dingens: are you chrooted or something?
[12:19] <eaxxae> hichi: a more appropriate question... yes, I believe you can
[12:19] <Dingens> mrintegrity, no, ordinary 8.04 install
[12:19] <mrintegrity> Dingens: what other mounts do you have? what mount options you use for tmp
[12:19] <eaxxae> hichi: md5sum of all important config files/binaries... will tell you things have been changed/tampered with
[12:20] <mrintegrity> Dingens: why ram mount tmp
[12:20] <hichi> I see, thank you. My original question is, if you know how I can automatically mark text so I don't have to press copy
[12:20] <Dingens> mrintegrity, its a single monolithic root-filesystem, plus "none  /tmp  tmpfs  defaults,size=512M  0  0"
[12:20] <eaxxae> SirCane: an 'offline' scanner is what I want... that runs rom BIOS... checks for virii/rootkits/malware/spyware..
[12:21] <Dingens> mrintegrity, i was planning to install some crypto-stuff and thought it would be wise to have /tmp in ram and swap disabled
[12:22] <mrintegrity> Dingens: for security reasons?
[12:22] <eaxxae> and saying windows boxes are the only thing on botnets is like saying britney spears is the only dumb bitch in hollywood
[12:23] <eaxxae> macs get owned, linux boxes get owned.. solaris boxes get owned, everything gets hacked.. so a USB integrity verification system would be great, that boots from bios and checks for shady pines ware
[12:23] <Dingens> mrintegrity, it was meant to be a usb-drive-installed rescue/backup/recovery-system, so the ability to mount crypted block devices seemed vital to me
[12:23] <hichi> I don't know what I have to type in google, I am looking for a way to auto-copy by hovering over text. Can I do this via Ubuntu or a tool?
[12:24] <mrintegrity> Dingens: im at a loss unfortunately.. if you unmount /tmp the original files on the disk should be back (unless you deleted it), try that and see if you can then mount drives
[12:24] <mrintegrity> if it works you will at least know what hte problem was more or less
[12:24] <brutus> Has anybody used linux containers? Why do I get this? $ lxc-console -n mycontainer "lxc-console: failed to connect to the tty service"
[12:24] <mrintegrity> hichi: you mean copy when you highlight text or just by hovering the mouse over it?
[12:24] <the_real_one> I want to remove gnome from ubuntu without loosing gedit, the virtual keyboard etc
[12:24] <the_real_one> how can I achieve this
[12:25] <mrintegrity> hichi: linux has 2 ways to copy, highligh only or highlight and right click / copy
[12:25] <Dingens> mrintegrity, in addition to that try, im i correct that in singleuser mode no deamons should conflict anymore, so it mount still doesnt work in singleuser than there is no daemon involved?
[12:25] <eaxxae> gedit depends on some gnome libraries...
[12:25] <hichi> mrintegrity: I would prefer hovering, so that I don't need to click anything
[12:25] <mrintegrity> Dingens:  i think thats correct
[12:25] <mrintegrity> hichi: sorry don't know
[12:25] <hichi> thx
[12:25] <xptical> how do I clean up the GRUB menu?  I have like 5 old kernels I'd like to remove
[12:26] <hichi> mrintegrity: how do you do the highlight thing
[12:26] <SirCane> the_real_one you want a different window manager?
[12:26] <the_real_one> I already have e17
[12:26] <SirCane> any gnome programs need gnome to work
[12:26] <mrintegrity> hichi: highlight some text then press shift + insert to paste it
[12:26] <Dingens> mrintegrity, ok, thanks for your help + patience! i'll init to singleuser and come back if it worked
[12:26] <mrintegrity> hichi: or middle mouse button to paste
[12:26] <red> How Unity these days? Is it still choppy and slow as a snail even on a high end pc?
[12:26] <karla> xptical, remove the old packages in aptitude and re run update-grub if isn't already
[12:26] <oCean> xptical: list your current installed ones and use apt-get purge to remove the ones you no longer need. Be careful not to remove the current :)
[12:26] <mrintegrity> Dingens: gl
[12:26] <eaxxae> xptical: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226183
[12:26] <hichi> mrintegrity: thank you, good info!
[12:27] <the_real_one> I work with ubunut on the HTC HD2 and I need some space to build an audio driver
[12:27] <SirCane> the_real_one you can still load gedit from within e17 just fine
[12:27] <the_real_one> that's not the point
[12:27] <CngZ> I search a fingerprint recognition software, do you know another one than fprint ?
[12:27] <the_real_one> I just want to remove gnome desktop
[12:28] <Daghdha> Hi
[12:28] <the_real_one> If I'd perform a sudo apt-get purge gnome...
[12:29] <eaxxae> the_real_one:  if you have to ask how to remove it, you probably can't ;)
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> the_real_one:  you may have to select a lot of differnt packages. theres no single package that will remvoe it all.
[12:30] <oCean> the_real_one: ubunt-desktop is the metapackage for the complete gnome-desktop.
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> !purekde
[12:30] <oCean> the_real_one: *ubuntu-desktop actually
[12:30] <eaxxae> and.. if you're using KDE, use kedit
[12:30] <bigslick> oi
[12:30] <the_real_one> I want to remove the ubuntu-desktop but not the software...
[12:30] <Daghdha> My systems has forgotton it has to spin down disks. For the 3rd time now :(
[12:30] <eaxxae> or better yet.. emacs
[12:30] <the_real_one> I'm using e17
[12:30] <the_real_one> and keep in mind I only have a touch screen
[12:31] <eaxxae> e17 is a window manager.. not a desktop enviornment
[12:31] <the_real_one> they way e17 is compiled it is a desktop environment
[12:31] <Sleepwalker> the_real_one: what do you think about E17, do you like it?
[12:31] <the_real_one> it's awesome
[12:32] <the_real_one> because I can't compile it on my laptop... couldn't run it on winmo6.5
[12:32] <eaxxae> the_real_one: it's a window manager.. do you even know the difference ?
[12:32] <Sleepwalker> really? I ran it with Sabayon live CD and didn't like....
[12:32] <the_real_one> since there isn't a debian-port for the hd2 yet (which I might build) I took the ubuntu version
[12:32] <the_real_one> right bbl
[12:33] <Sleepwalker> cos I didn't find E17 on ubuntu repos
[12:33] <eaxxae> it's not
[12:33] <eaxxae> it's unstable
[12:34] <kothaguy_ubuntu> Hi Friends,how to open an usb with root permission,when ever i insert an usb,i want to open the usb as root,so that i can do copy/paste in the usb
[12:34] <eaxxae> you have to add repos for just e17.. and it crashes nonstop
[12:34] <eaxxae> it's junk
[12:34] <eaxxae> can't even compare it to gnome/kde
[12:35] <Sleepwalker> i know it's unstable, but I tested it with Fedora 7, that time it was really unstable! rs
[12:36] <Daghdha> does anyone know a GUI tool that lets you set drive spindown times?
[12:36] <Daghdha> You know, something normal people can use.
[12:36] <eaxxae> normal people use cli, dumb people depend on gui
[12:36] <kothaguy_ubuntu>  Hi Friends,how to open an usb with root permission,when ever i insert an usb,i want to open the usb as root,so that i can do copy/paste in the usb
[12:36] <Sleepwalker> i use both
[12:37] <Daghdha> eaxxae don't you like redundancy?
[12:37] <Sleepwalker> dependng the situacion
[12:38] <oCean> eaxxae: no need to call anyone 'dumb'
[12:38] <Dingens> mrintegrity, no luck. i dont know how, but somehow i've destroyed my freshly installed system
[12:38] <kaolbrec> Daghdha: pretty sure drive spin-down times are not something the average user cares about.. So a gui tool is unlikely.
[12:39] <aeon-ltd> kothaguy_ubuntu: you don't, you'd open a file manager with sudo. but really you should look into changing ownership of the usb stick or permissions
[12:39] <Crush_> i disagree oCean, there are some VERY dumb people.  some people shouldn't be allowed to touch a computer
[12:39] <oCean> Crush_: this is not the place for such opinions
[12:39]  * eaxxae agrees with crush
[12:39] <alket> How to sync thunderbird and google calendar ?
[12:39] <dabug> im one of them..
[12:40]  * eaxxae thinks Daghdha is fresh of the boat from asia somewhere.. and wonders how he got into europe
[12:40] <dabug> lol
[12:40] <kaolbrec> ...
[12:40] <kothaguy_ubuntu> aeon-ltd, :how to change the ownership of USB or permissions,i am the root of my system
[12:40] <oCean> eaxxae: please stay on topic.
[12:40]  * Crush_ looks at dabug....
[12:40] <ross410> having trouble with a dependency. "configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install" Any help?
[12:40] <Sleepwalker> Not even using GSmartcontrol you can set  spin-down times, maybe through vendors software?
[12:41] <Crush_> depends on the harddrive and wether it supports setting, what hdd are you wanting to change the times on
[12:41] <kaolbrec> hdparm can do it
[12:41] <Daghdha> I have it in hdparm.conf
[12:41] <eaxxae> let him google it.. geez, people use irc like it's free tech support when they can read the man page and it takes 10 seconds
[12:41] <kaolbrec> Although I don't know about drive-specific support
[12:42] <kaolbrec> eaxxae: we have to consider that people don't even know the name of the utility they need a flag for
[12:42] <oCean> eaxxae: that is what this channel is about. Don't send people to google
[12:42] <Daghdha> I've also used hdparm in the past. Just dunno why drives stop sleeping after some reboots. Not always
[12:42] <mrintegrity> Dingens: damn
[12:43] <Sleepwalker> hum hdparm... let's see...
[12:43] <mrintegrity> Dingens: at least if it's freshly installed you haven't lost much
[12:44] <Dingens> mrintegrity, hrm. but i havent done much either. so what tells me that i wont run into the same anomaly again? hrm. mount exits without error.. conditional only for sata-devices.. which i can still read bytewise.. i dont get it
[12:45] <ross410> having trouble with a dependency. "configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install" Any help?
[12:46] <jrib> ross410: what are you compiling?
[12:46] <ross410> jrib: cheops-ng
[12:48] <jrib> ross410: did you install gnome libraries -dev package?
[12:48] <ross410> jrib: No I have not
[12:48] <jrib> !compile > ross410
[12:49] <seffu> hay
[12:50] <seffu> scriptwarlock
[12:50] <landingonwater> how to change font size in Empathy ? I read a few posts about It, and i edited a config file, but no change. I used <font> but its not recognized by empathy.
[12:50] <seffu> honey_butter
[12:50] <scriptwarlock> seffu, yo
[12:50] <seffu> da
[12:51] <scriptwarlock> ?
[12:51] <honey_butter> hey
[12:51] <seffu> heh
[12:51] <seffu> no such un chanel me
[12:51] <Papyros> how can i find with a command all my installed programs?
[12:51] <scriptwarlock> seffu, what do you want?
[12:51] <mrintegrity> Dingens: nor me
[12:52] <seffu> want register me
[12:52] <mrintegrity> Dingens: probably something to do with an ubuntu user mount thing that uses files in /tmp
[12:52] <aeon-ltd> Papyros: you can just look in synaptics and sort by installed
[12:52] <mrintegrity> Dingens: just a guess.. and i don't know what that might be either
[12:52] <oCean> !register > seffu
[12:52] <jrib> Papyros: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[12:53] <Papyros> thanks dudes
[12:53] <Dingens> mrintegrity, hm, maybe i've broken something by swapping /tmp of a running system.. that sure wasnt very polite
[12:53] <ross410> jrib: I followed the instructions on the compiling software page. How doI install the gnome library -dev package?
[12:54] <jrib> ross410: first, you search for it
[12:54] <jrib> ross410: do you know how to search using apt-cache?
[12:54] <Duke_13> Empathy might be controlled by the general font settings in appearance
[12:54] <yorua007> apt-cache search packagename
[12:55] <sahilshines> hello every1
[12:55] <aeon-ltd> sahilshines: hi
[12:55] <yuskhanzab> i need help her
[12:55] <sahilshines> i have today installed merquery ez view tv tuner in natty but unable to use it
[12:56] <jrib> !natty | sahilshines
[12:56] <ross410> jrib: something like apt-cache search?
[12:56] <jrib> ross410: sure
[12:57] <sahilshines> i know that but yet using it...(lost 46gb of data already due to wrong installation)
[12:57] <jrib> sahilshines: #ubuntu+1 for support
[12:57] <sahilshines> thnx
[12:57] <ross410> jrib: apt-cache search gnome-libs finds no results
[12:58] <sahilshines> how to know that tv tuner is working and detected by the system?
[12:58] <jrib> ross410: try: apt-cache search -n gnome lib dev
[12:58] <cylex> sahilshines: try lspci
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> sahilshines: does it show itself when you plug it in with 'dmesg'
[12:58] <ross410> jrib: pk, found many files
[12:58] <ross410> jrib: ok*
[12:59] <jrib> ross410: read descriptions until you find the one you want
[12:59] <ross410> jrib: Thanks
[12:59] <oCean> ross410: as a tip, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has also options to search names/descriptions/content of packages
[13:00] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:00] <sahilshines> @cylex trying that shows  this "Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)"
[13:00] <sahilshines> but m using merquery...:/
[13:01] <cylex> hmm
[13:01] <hugo__> when i try to watch a youtube video, i get a pink screen?i'm using ubuntu 10.10 netbook version.
[13:01] <mrintegrity> Dingens: lol, quite possible
[13:02] <cylex> because either  your computer can't handle the full screen, because of the video card, or flash is not installed
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> hugo__:  If you only want youtube.. the google chome browser can use HTML5 for most of those and not need flash.  Ive not neard of a Flash-Pinkscreen issue.. so cant suggest much more.
[13:02] <Papyros> hi dudes.. i have a  video 1920 x 1080 and i want to resize it to something lower. i put in ffmpeg  ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -s xga -vcodec copy paparia.mp4 and the result is 1920 x 1080. . what can i do ? i want to resize it
[13:02] <mrintegrity> Dingens: how did you do it? create a ramdisk, copy the file over and then remount /tmp to the new location?
[13:02] <cylex> sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree
[13:02] <HF_acid> Hugo_: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/fix-pinkred-youtube-videos-bug-using.html
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> hugo__:  you do have flash player installed? like cylex  is saying?
[13:02] <mrintegrity> maybe try setting it in the fstab and rebooting instead
[13:02] <mrintegrity> im off now, good luch
[13:03] <mrintegrity> luck
[13:03] <barberan> bb
[13:03] <hugo__> i'm get the same problem with chrome 9 and with firefox.
[13:03] <HF_acid> hugo_: * see my link above
[13:04] <hugo__> i've installed the latest falshplayer version and the problem stays the same
[13:05] <xiaoy> Is it normal that skype doesnt login a user account in Ubuntu Lucid 64bit?
[13:05] <Krycek> nah
[13:05] <Jragon> Hi!
[13:06] <Martin1> I have Ubuntu 10.10 and i cant find a ATI driver I have ATI Radeon 8500 series
[13:06] <Jragon> When I open up my computer I have to put my log in keyring 3 times? The first 2 it says it is wrong and on the 3rd one it says it is right???
[13:06] <Dingens> mrintegrity, uhm.. no.. to my eternal shame i just mounted the ram-tmpfs over the original /tmp, so it was empty after the swap.
[13:06] <karla> hugo__, i'm having problems with my flash player lately also
[13:06] <nishant> i am having a lot of problem with the netbook GUI
[13:06] <nishant> wherfe is the Menu
[13:07] <Jragon> When I open up my computer I have to put my log in keyring 3 times? The first 2 it says it is wrong and on the 3rd one it says it is right???
[13:07] <nishant> control panel etc is not seen ....
[13:07] <hichi> How can I auto-highlight text by hovering over it? If the highlighted text would auto-copy it would be even better.
[13:07] <nishant> task bar seems to be non exisstent
[13:07] <hugo__> i  just have problems with my ubuntu netbook distro, on my desktop it's all working fine
[13:08] <HF_acid> karla hugo_ what have you tried?
[13:08] <cube1> what the best (cli) usenet reader?
[13:08] <nishant> why is the netbook edition not having right click option ?
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> cube1:  i would say check the pacakge manager..  I imagine theres not a lot of them that are being worked on these days.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> nishant:  a lot of the netbook stuff is locked down.
[13:09] <cube1> Dr_Willis: is usenet becoming deprivated?
[13:09] <nishant> how do I bring up DrWillis
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> cube1:  I think its becomming less popular with every year.. ive not used it in proberly 5+ years now.
[13:09] <hugo__> i've updated the system, installed the latest flashplayer version and nothing worked
[13:09] <nishant> I suppose I like a bit more flexibility
[13:09] <xiaoy> Krycek, so my Ubuntu isn't "normal" or skype is got some problem installing on Ubuntu, or what?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> cube1:  many people dont even know what newsgrousp are these days.
[13:09] <HF_acid> hugo_: by latest, you mean the 11 preview release?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> nishant:  use the normal gnome desktop then. Not the netbook interface.
[13:10] <nishant> Dr_Willis, how do I do that now >
[13:10] <nishant> I installed via netbook iso
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> nishant:  install ubuntu-desktop
[13:10] <nishant> right
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> and select gnome at gdm login
[13:10] <nishant> i like the APPLE like menu
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> nishant:  thats doable in the normal gnome desktop 'global menu' -
[13:10] <cylex> Where can I find the list of compatible hardware for linux
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> !hcl
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:11] <barberan> who has ever tryed out Hackintosh ?
[13:11] <hugo__> the weird  thing is that this problem only happens in youtube, in the other video sites works fine
[13:11] <Jeruvy> barberan: we don't take polls here, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks.
[13:11] <webpower_> ragazzi dite che c'è un metodo per adattare i driver proprietari ATI per una radeon 9200 alla ultima release di ubuntu per fare funzionare compiz-fusion?
[13:12] <maxagaz> can all laptop create a wifi hotspot ?
[13:12] <Fuchs> !it | webpower_
[13:12] <maxagaz> if not, how to know if mine can ?
[13:12] <hugo__> what kind of problem you have?
[13:12] <webpower_> oh sorry
[13:12] <webpower_> :)
[13:13] <Jragon> When I open up my computer I have to put my log in keyring 3 times? The first 2 it says it is wrong and on the 3rd one it says it is right??? How can I change this?
[13:13] <nishant> whats hackintosh
[13:14] <blueoyster> anybody know an open source extensible ticketing system for a whole company to manage tasks... something like Remedy?
[13:14] <greppy> blueoyster: request tracker
[13:15] <blueoyster> greppy, thanks i'll check it out
[13:15] <Jragon> When I open up my computer I have to put my log in keyring 3 times? The first 2 it says it is wrong and on the 3rd one it says it is right??? How can I change this?
[13:15] <scoundrel50> Hi, I had some stuff appear in my terminal whilst updating, and was adviced to delete /var/lib/dpkg/status/ which I did. i did an update, sudo apt-get update, and then went to the UpdateManager, to find I had over 140 updates. I tried to update, and I get this error......installArchives() failed: warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 46354 package 'virtualbox-3.0':
[13:15] <scoundrel50>  error in Version string '3.0.14-58977_Ubuntu_karmic': invalid character in revision number
[13:15] <scoundrel50> warning, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 48216 package 'virtualbox-2.2':
[13:15] <scoundrel50>  error in Version string '2.2.4-47978_Ubuntu_jaunty': invalid character in revision number can somebody help please? I can no longer update
[13:15] <FloodBot1> scoundrel50: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:15] <nishant> Once i install ubuntu-desktop the netbook settings get overridden ?
[13:15] <Mkaysi> nishant: Hackintosh = Macintosh which is installed to other than Apple computer.
[13:15] <scoundrel50> um, funny thing, I did do that, it happened automatically
[13:15] <nishant> Aahh hey thats what I was thinking about
[13:15] <oCean> Mkaysi: it's also very offtopic
[13:15] <Daghdha> sometimes at boot system says /dev/sdc5 (swap) is not yet ready or not present. But then i reset the machine and it's ok.
[13:16] <erUSUL> scoundrel50: sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/available-old  /var/lib/dpkg/available
[13:16] <nishant> Do they work fine ? I suppose there are youtube videos on Mac on acer laptops etc
[13:16] <g[r]eek> Hi. Is there any program I can use to retrieve files on a flash drive that's been corrupted.
[13:16] <jrib> scoundrel50: what version of ubuntu is this?
[13:16] <greppy> !ot | nishant
[13:16] <Jeruvy> nishant: it's offtopic
[13:16] <scoundrel50> I am using 10.10
[13:16] <Daghdha> Any reason why that would happen i can control?
[13:17] <nishant> sorry
[13:17] <notify-osd> hello. How do I get Ubuntu notifications ballons backs?
[13:17] <notify-osd> back
[13:17] <Papyros> hi dudes.. i have a  video 1920 x 1080 and i want to resize it to something lower. i put in ffmpeg  ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -s xga -vcodec copy paparia.mp4 and the result is 1920 x 1080. . what can i do ? i want to resize it
[13:17] <notify-osd> sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled
[13:17] <notify-osd> is this the problem?
[13:18] <Fjodor> notify-osd: Most probably
[13:18] <scoundrel50> erUSUL: I entered that command, but still get the same error when trying to update.
[13:18] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: normally corrupted files are lost for good.
[13:18] <Fjodor> notify-osd: So try mv with the arguments swapped
[13:19] <jrib> scoundrel50: apt-cache policy virtualbox-2.2 virtualbox-3.0
[13:19] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, well my choice of wording is probably inaccurate. I think there's a virus on the flash drive. Is there some program I can use to "scan" the contents of a flash drive and try retrieve at least some of the files?
[13:19] <maxagaz> it seems my computer cannot become a wifi hotspot, is it possible ?
[13:19] <Fjodor> g[r]eek: clamav perhaps
[13:20] <maxagaz> I have created an ad hoc network, but other computers can't see it
clamav u may use to scan
[13:20] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: can you mount and read the drive?
[13:20] <scoundrel50> jrib: I tried that, get this error, one sec need to open pastebin
[13:20] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, I have plugged it in, the little light on the flash disk is lit, but there is no auto-popup folder window, nor do I see the device if I click on "Places" in my menu
[13:21] <notify-osd> Fjodor: k
[13:21] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: what does 'mount' tell you about it?
[13:21] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, I type mount and see a few lines of output, what am I looking for?
[13:21] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: the drive in question
[13:22] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, well I see a few lines that I don't know how to interpret and thus don't know if it's "the drive in question"
[13:22] <notify-osd> How do I delete just a word instead of a line in terminal'
[13:22] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, could you be more specific please?
[13:22] <Jeruvy> can you pastebin it and link it back?
[13:22] <scoundrel50> jrib: here is the results http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/576452/
[13:22] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, sure, one minute please
[13:22] <notify-osd> ctrl+u is for the line
[13:23] <jrib> notify-osd: alt-backspace or ctrl-w.  Google "gnu readline"
[13:24] <notify-osd> tks jrib
[13:24] <jrib> notify-osd: (or read bottom of « man readline »)
[13:24] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, http://pastebin.com/2degMB7q
[13:25] <scoundrel50> jrib: still getting that error,
[13:25] <jrib> scoundrel50: you should figure out where those packages came from.  As for the new error, edit your sources.list* and remove the duplicate entries
[13:25] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, I did the same with the lsusb command: http://pastebin.com/RZUBexW7
[13:26] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, it might be that "#
[13:26] <g[r]eek> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 090c:3000 Feiya Technology Corp. " line?
[13:26] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek:  that looks like it
[13:26] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, is that a good sign?
[13:26] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: see if the device is mounted in gvfs.  In your $home directory cd to .gvfs
[13:27] <scoundrel50> I have looked in sources and it isnt there, the second duplicate, I will be able to sort out myself but the first error I dont even understand it.
[13:27] <notify-osd> so I did sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service but notify osd is still not working
[13:27] <jrib> scoundrel50: _ isn't a valid character in a package version
[13:27] <notify-osd> I did sudo chmod +x /usr/lib/notify-osd/notify-osd before
[13:27] <jrib> notify-osd: you probably need to restart the dbus service
[13:28] <scoundrel50> jrib: not sure what you mean?
[13:28] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: then see if your drive is there, if so you should be able to read files (if it's readable).  Mount says it is.
[13:28] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, I did cd .gvfs and then ls but nothing shows up
[13:28] <jrib> scoundrel50: a package has a version.  There are characters not allowed to be in package versions.  You have a file that contains data about a package.  Included in that data is a version with a character not allowed
[13:28] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: it's not looking good.
[13:29] <g[r]eek> :(
[13:29] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, ok so it's definitely recognizing the hardware
[13:29] <maxagaz> I'm trying to create an ad-hoc wifi hotspot but it doesn't work with Network Manager, can someone help ?
[13:29] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: it sees the hardware, but no filesystem
[13:30] <loc0> how ubuntu making money ?
[13:30] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, ok so in my limited knowledge, it seems like it's an issue with the file allocation table on the flash disk?
[13:30] <japro> #join java
[13:30] <jrib> !ot | loc0
[13:30] <g[r]eek> loc0, funded by a billionaire philanthropist
[13:30] <scoundrel50> jrib: so how did it get there? That is what I dont understand, this is the error I get from the Update Manager when I try to update.........http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/576458/
[13:31] <jrib> scoundrel50: this is why I suggested you determine where those two packages came from
[13:31] <scoundrel50> I dont know where it comes from, I can copy the list of Sources to show you, I dont see that in the sources list.
[13:31] <kyodai> how to set pon dsl-provider at autostart. using kde instead of gnome?
[13:31] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, do you know of any tool I can use that scans the physical storage space of a disk / flash drive and attempts to identify files based on the bits it reads?
[13:32] <loc0> g[r]eek: how can we make money via ubuntu ?
[13:32] <notify-osd-2> jrib: i did sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart and I got stucked in terminal lol
[13:32] <notify-osd-2> needed to reboot
[13:32] <jrib> notify-osd-2: you should use sudo service dbus restart, not /etc/init.d
[13:32] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: you could install the testdisk package and try it out.  I've not used it myself.
[13:32] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, ok thanks. I'll give that a try and let you know how it goes.
[13:33] <loc0> g[r]eek: ???
[13:33] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: good luck.
[13:34] <scoundrel50> jrib: this is a copy of my sources list, it doesnt show anything in there, only the dulicate http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/576460/
[13:34] <notify-osd-3> jrib: same thing happened because that command is the same
[13:35] <jrib> notify-osd-3: command is not the same :/
[13:35] <notify-osd> jrib: but i get stuck in terminal
[13:36] <jrib> notify-osd: maybe because of using /etc/init.d, though I do not claim this
[13:36] <notify-osd> jrib: how do i start notify-osd service?
[13:36] <jrib> notify-osd: what do you mean by "stuck"?
[13:36] <notify-osd> jrib: it restarts something and I get a terminal
[13:37] <jrib> notify-osd: that's normal
[13:37] <notify-osd> then it freezes
[13:37] <jrib> notify-osd: what freezes?
[13:37] <notify-osd> terminal
[13:37] <jrib> notify-osd: that's pretty weird
[13:37] <notify-osd> then i ctrl+alt+f1, login and sudo reboot
[13:37] <javahorn> Hi, how best to burn on CD for 10.10 installation as flash USB is giving me problem in terms of asking for password and not accepting it for wubi!
[13:38] <jrib> notify-osd: so now everything is dandy?
[13:38] <pwnsauce> javahorn, what OS are you trying to burn from?
[13:38] <notify-osd> jrib: i dont think so. notify-osd is not running
[13:38] <gaelfx> javahorn: I'll tell you this much, I certainly don't reccomend wubi as an install method
[13:38] <omry> hi, got a new hp envy 14", and I installed 10.10 on it. having some issues with the touchpad (synaptic, multitouch). anyone has experience with this laptop?
[13:38] <javahorn> pwnsauce: win7
[13:39] <oCean> notify-osd: have you considered/tried reinstalling notify-osd?
[13:39] <jrib> notify-osd: how did you disable it originally?  And why?
[13:39] <javahorn> gaelfx: what to do, i have win7 and all partitions to itself and once installing ubuntu from flash USB , i get unmount step
[13:39] <javahorn> gaelfx: not sure what to do there
[13:39] <pwnsauce> javahorn: If you're burning to cd, then just use the generic CD burner in win7. Try to not use wubi.
[13:40] <mohit> so i have just started htop .. so how we know its completed htop
[13:40] <pwnsauce> javaqhorn: Burn the cd, then boot from it
[13:40] <notify-osd> jrib: with "sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled" then "
[13:40] <gaelfx> javahorn: boot from the liveusb
[13:40] <Jeruvy> mohit: it just runs until you stop it.
[13:40] <notify-osd> jrib: and dbus service is not starting at boot
[13:40] <notify-osd> i disabled it
[13:40] <jrib> notify-osd: you disabled dbus?
[13:40] <javahorn> gaelfx: what to do with unmount step ie /dev/sda kind of message?
[13:40] <notify-osd> jrib: using sudo rcconf
[13:41] <gaelfx> javahorn: if you boot directly from the usb (do NOT start windows), then you shouldn't have this problem
[13:41] <jrib> notify-osd: why?
[13:41] <notify-osd> jrib: does it harm?
[13:41] <javahorn> gaelfx: how to get that option, from BIOS?
[13:41] <marco_> !list
[13:41] <mohit> it display which file is missing in my os ...
[13:41] <jrib> notify-osd: well dbus is responsible for starting up notify-osd
[13:41] <marco_> hi
[13:41] <notify-osd> ohok
[13:42] <notify-osd> sudo service dbus start  should do it
[13:42] <scoundrel50> jrib: I have looked in Synaptic, and it tells me its not installed, so where else can I find virtualbox, which is what the problem is.
[13:42] <evdvelde> hi all, who is able to burn CDRW disks now with Maverick? which tool are you using? I tried wodim, cdrskin and all kind of frontends without success (all SCSI failures in the middle of burning process)
[13:42] <jrib> scoundrel50: I'm just suggesting that you determine where the package came from
[13:42] <javahorn> gaelfx: i dont get that option
[13:42] <pwnsauce> javahorn: What's your computer's make & model?
[13:43] <notify-osd> evdvelde: just use Brasero
[13:43] <Alotesnivek> Hey guys Ubuntu n00b here. So i had a clock and then someone restarted my laptop, some notifications came up, they clicked delete bad files, now i have no clock and can't seem to find it. ):  It was all sexy and docked to the top right. help?
[13:43] <jrib> scoundrel50: if I knew of a magic command to tell you that I would give it to you.  So I am asking you to use your memory.
[13:43] <Daghdha> is the hdparm -Z only for seagate drives? I been putting all sort of stuff in my HDD's to make them go asleep but they keep having (al but 1): Advanced power management level: disabled
[13:43] <evdvelde> notify-osd: i tried that, but it fails as well, giving all kind of strange errors on the device (known to be good)
[13:44] <marco_> excuse me, i'm new to xubuntu, so, could you please tell me where i can find the italian channel of ubuntu? Thx
[13:44] <javahorn> pwnsauce: samsung,r418
[13:44] <hyxin> hey
[13:44] <scoundrel50> jrib: ok, I dont ever remember installing virtualbox, for one, and why its not appearing in Synaptic as being installed, I dont know.
[13:44] <abou3ali> Hi guys I was trying to install ubuntu server on my laptop but through vmware but it didn't work?
[13:44] <abou3ali> has somebody tried it and was successful
[13:45] <abou3ali> ?
[13:45] <jrib> scoundrel50: then very carefully edit the blocks for the packages in your error message.  Make sure you make a backup of the file /var/lib/dpkg/available first.
[13:45] <jrib> scoundrel50: by "edit" I mean "delete"
[13:46] <mohit> ubuntu hangs so htop will able to solve this issue
[13:46] <pwnsauce> javahorn: I believe that your boot menu key is the ESC key. When you reboot, and the BIOS logo pops up at the very start, hit ESC. You whould see a list of boot media. Am I making sense?
[13:47] <Papyros> hi dudes.. i have a  video 1920 x 1080 and i want to resize it to something lower. i put in ffmpeg  ffmpeg -i video.mp4 -s xga -vcodec copy paparia.mp4 and the result is 1920 x 1080. . what can i do ? i want to resize it
[13:47] <gaelfx> javahorn: apologies, in BIOS, it different as per your hardware. It's possible that the USB is displayed as a hard disk, in which case you need to set it's priority before your real hard drive
[13:47] <mrsun> hmm
[13:47] <gaelfx> javahorn: that's how it is on mine
[13:47] <mrsun> after the latest update my flash plugin crashes in chrome and got alot of graphics glitches :/
[13:47] <Oins> Hi. How can I disable the start from mysql during boot?
[13:47] <yeats> scoundrel50: you can do 'dkpg -l | grep virtualbox' to see if it is installed/was ever installed (you'd probably want to do that before editing what jrib suggests)
[13:48] <jrib> scoundrel50: alternatively (to what I said), you can just recreate the file from scratch: apt-cache dumpavail | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/available && sudo dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available
[13:48] <pwnsauce> Papyros, there are loads of video size options for ffmpeg. Take a look at the ffmpeg man page
[13:49] <Papyros> pwnsauce, but i put the -s xga option and nothing happends
[13:49] <javahorn> pwnsauce: yes
[13:49] <mrsun> anyone encountered this problem latley? :P
[13:49] <Daghdha> ok after soem research i have come to the following for my hdparm: hdparm -c1 -S 60 -B 127 -M 254 /dev/sda
[13:49] <pwnsauce> Papyros: Hmmmm.... your syntax seems legit. Sorry, I can't help on this one
[13:50] <marco_> Hi every body, could you please tell me what i have to do for find the italian channel of ubuntu please? :)
[13:50] <Alotesnivek> Hey guys Ubuntu n00b here. So i had a clock and then someone restarted my laptop, some notifications came up, they clicked delete bad files, now i have no clock and can't seem to find it. ):  It was all sexy and docked to the top right. help?
[13:50] <stelios> helllo i have a problem with ubuntu server language support greek  is like σ[]σ[][][] when run a command
[13:50] <Daghdha> I have 1 question. on /sda and /sdb it won't allow me to -c1 (32 bit mode) the disk. But they are teh same disk type as /sdd. How come?
[13:50] <yeats> !panels | Alotesnivek
[13:51] <notify-osd> jrib: so I need dbus to start on boot?
[13:51] <famihug> hi, when use bash, can i use pipe to redirect a file name input and get the output file with name input1. I want to write a script to get the name of input file and change it.
[13:51] <jrib> notify-osd: I would suggest that, yes
[13:52] <Alotesnivek> Thank you very much! I shall now try to become less of a n00b.  Many thanks again!
[13:52] <jrib> famihug: try #bash
[13:52] <pwnsauce> famihug: Elaborate please
[13:52] <marco_> !help
[13:52] <yeats> Alotesnivek: no problem - good luck!
[13:52] <notify-osd> !dbus
[13:52] <xptical> hi all
[13:52] <notify-osd> hi to you
[13:52] <erry> Hi, I'm trying to get glib to compile something
[13:53] <erry> I found online you have to run this sudo apt-get install build-essentials libglib2.0-0 libglib2.0-0-dev
[13:53] <xptical> what are you compiling?
[13:53] <erry> But build-essentials and the third package don't exist?
[13:53] <abou3ali> Hi, did any one try and used the ubuntu server through the VMware?
[13:53] <erry> i'm trying to compile webkit
[13:53] <yeats> erry: it's 'build-essential'
[13:53] <stelios> !help
[13:53] <jrib> erry: and webkit is in the repositories
[13:53] <xptical> build-essentials shuld have everything
[13:53] <rigved> !info dbus | notify-osd
[13:53] <erry> ok
[13:53] <erry> What about glib-dev
[13:53] <gaelfx> I'm trying to choose between installing ardour and installing rosegarden as a DAW, does anyone have any useful advice or opinions about those, insofar as they pertain to ubuntu?
[13:54] <notify-osd> jrib: now it's working
[13:54] <hal> when I try to start the "Users and Groups" application, it just hangs. Does anyone know what I can do to resolve it, please?
[13:54] <yeats> erry: you can do 'apt-cache search glib' to see what packages are available
[13:54] <notify-osd> notify-send --icon="info" test
[13:54] <erry> I did that
[13:54] <famihug> pwnsauce: i write a bash file, get the input filename to an variable use "read filename". After make some sed command, it create the output file name $filename1
[13:54] <erry> but i can't seem to find it
[13:54] <xptical> erry  I know the fun of compiling
[13:54] <Daghdha> i wonder if that's a 16 bit controller /dev/sda&b are on
[13:54] <erry> Yep :)
[13:55] <yeats> erry: you can also start typing 'sudo apt-get install libglib...' and hit tab for autocomplete - it will list the available packages with those first few letters in the name
[13:55] <xptical> erry  have you ever thought of trying LFS in virtualbox
[13:55] <rigved> hal: what do you want to do? add users?
[13:55] <xptical> erry  it will teach you a ton
[13:55] <erry> glibc-2.10-1         glibc-doc            glibc-doc-reference  glibc-pic
[13:55] <hal> rigved: I want to start the users and groups application
[13:55] <erry> I have the first one installed alreadyf
[13:55] <hal> I would like to troubleshoot the prolblem
[13:55] <erry> but webkit will not compile
[13:55] <pwnsauce> famihug: Simple fix  The syntax is "$filename"1
[13:56] <yeats> erry: it's probably 'libglib' something
[13:56] <xptical> erry  what is the error
[13:56] <oCean> famihug: here is an example http://paste.ubuntu.com/576465/
[13:56] <rigved> hal: type this in the terminal - users-admin
[13:57] <hal> rigved: I did that but I got the same problem. There was nothing output to stderr/stodout either
[13:57] <notify-osd> notify osd configuration is great
[13:57] <rigved> hal: if there is some error, then it should get logged to the terminal
[13:57] <rigved> hal: ok
[13:57] <pwnsauce> gaelfx. it's been a while since I used rosegarden, but Ardour is fairly extensice
[13:57] <marco_> !dbus
[13:57] <erry> http://pastebin.com/UW5s6eV7
[13:57] <famihug> pwnsauce oCean thanks
[13:57] <erry> xptical, http://pastebin.com/UW5s6eV7
[13:58] <scoundrel50>  jrib:what am I supposed to be deleting, it doesnt make any sense to me at all. I have found both lines in the error, but when I try to delete it says archives failed.
[13:58] <rigved> hal: open up system monitor. do you see any other instance of users-admin?
[13:58] <ikonia> erry: what version of glibc do you have installed ?
[13:58] <hal> rigved: no, system monitor is the only way I can close it down to test it again
[13:59] <erry> ikonia, 2.24.1'
[13:59] <ikonia> erry: ok, so that's the issue
[13:59] <xptical> erry  You *really* should take a step back and look at LFS
[13:59] <erry> ikonia, wehre can i get a newer one?
[13:59] <yeats> erry: it needs a newer version than what Ubuntu has
[13:59] <ikonia> erry: it wants 2.27 of greater
[13:59] <erry> ok
[13:59] <xptical> erry  Linux From Scratch
[13:59] <ikonia> erry: you don't get the newerone, it will conflict with your ubuntu version
[13:59] <erry> ikonia, so how do i compile this?
[13:59] <ikonia> xptical: that has nothing to do with this question, please stop quotiung it
[13:59] <ikonia> erry: you compile it on a system that is comptiable with it's dependencies
[14:00] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, no luck. It finds the USB device but upon an analysis / scan, it doesn't locate any partitions
[14:00] <erry> ikonia, i'm following the instructions in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebKit
[14:00] <xptical> ikonia  I know.  But LFS would teach him all about deps and all the intracies of compiling
[14:00] <erry> xptical, i'm not a he
[14:00] <Jeruvy> g[r]eek: the only thing I could suggest is to find a tool that can attempt to recovery lost partitions.  Sorry can't suggest more
[14:01] <ikonia> erry: the version of webkit are you trying to build is too new (probably) jrib was suggesting webkit was in the repo
[14:01] <xptical> erry  Sorry
[14:01] <erry> xptical, it's ok
[14:01] <yeats> erry: any reason you're not installing webkit from the repos?
[14:01] <ikonia> erry: what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:01] <notify-osd> k notify-osd opacity is not working
[14:01] <notify-osd> maybe because i disabled effects?
[14:01] <g[r]eek> Jeruvy, ok thanks anyway
[14:01] <scoundrel50> ok, just saw nthis now, after trying to work out what to do, apt-cache dumpavail | sudo tee /var/lib/dpkg/available && sudo dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available entered the command, and something happened, there was loads of script going through. what did it actually do?
[14:01] <rigved> hal: i can't even find the package that installs it. if you do, try sudo apt-get purge package_name && sudo apt-get install package_name
[14:01] <erry> ikonia, ah.
[14:01]  * yeats steps out of the way so as to not confuse erry ;-)
[14:02] <splashote> hi, i want to get rid of my window-frames. when i deactivate them in the compiz manager they get automatically activated ..
[14:02] <ikonia> erry: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[14:02] <erry> ikonia, 10.04 LTS
[14:02] <ikonia> erry: ok, so webkit should be in the ubuntu repos, so you don't need to compile it
[14:02] <xptical> erry, what is your idea behind compiling anything on Ubuntu?
[14:02] <ikonia> erry: you should be able to install it from the package manager
[14:02] <pwnsauce> g[r]eek: Sorry, repeat your issue again please
[14:02] <erry> ikonia, under what package name?
[14:02] <erry> xptical, i've compiled things before.
[14:02] <hal> ok rigved , I will try that, thanks
[14:02] <ikonia> erry: it's listed in the document you quoted me
[14:02] <xptical> erry, okay
[14:02] <steb> hey
[14:03] <steb> i have installed texinfo but while compiling it is still telling me makeinfo is missing..
[14:03] <ikonia> erry: since karmick webkit has been in the repos under libwebkit-1.0-2
[14:03] <xptical> erry  I looked at the error and it really doesn't tell memuch
[14:03] <xptical> me much
[14:03] <ikonia> xptical: it tells you the version of libc it wants is too old in ubuntu
[14:03] <rigved> hal: in the meantime, you can use user add, user del and passwd username. sorry couldn't help much
[14:03] <hal> rigved: that's ok, thanks for the suggestions
[14:03] <steb> 1
[14:03] <erry> Oh
[14:03] <erry> thanks ikonia :)
[14:03] <evdvelde> is there someone here who knows how to burn a cdrw with ubuntu?
[14:04]  * erry notes to herself to read the whole thing next time :p
[14:04] <erry> sorry for wasting your time
[14:04] <ikonia> erry: try reading through the whole document before jumping in, it will make things easier and save you time in the long run
[14:04] <ikonia> erry: easy mistake to make
[14:04] <rigved> steb: check to make sure that you have a Makefile in the root directory
[14:04] <xptical> evdvelde  Have you tried Brasero?
[14:04] <erry> Ok thanks
[14:04] <steb> rigved: can you plz tell me where to check and how?
[14:05] <dilate> salut
[14:05] <rigved> !info brasero | evdvelde
[14:05] <oCean> !fr > dilate
[14:06] <evdvelde> xptical: yes, been there, done that.. but it is the underlying tool that fails: wodim or cdrskin, both fail
[14:06] <pwnsauce> !
[14:06] <dilate> no fr ?
[14:06] <xptical> erry I still think you should take some time and look at LFS
[14:06] <oCean> dilate: #ubuntu-fr
[14:06] <famihug> ls
[14:06] <dilate> ls
[14:07] <dilate> join # ubuntu.fr
[14:07] <Laurenceb__> hi
[14:07] <envase> ne1 using blackbuntu?
[14:07] <rigved> steb: in the textinfo directory, there should be a file named Makefile
[14:07] <envase> hey
[14:07] <ikonia> envase: we don't support blackbuntu here
[14:07] <dilate> blackbuntu ? lol
[14:07] <yeats> dilate: do '/join #ubuntu-fr'
[14:07] <Laurenceb__> im trying to install ubuntu o an acer aspire one, but i dont have a usb stick, how can i install?
[14:07] <dilate> thnks
[14:07] <Laurenceb__> *on
[14:07] <envase> yeh, just wondering if ne1 is using it. Don't need support
[14:07] <ikonia> envase: ok, then it's offtopic here
[14:08] <envase> right okay then
[14:08] <isundil_> Laurenceb_: by bc
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> bc?
[14:08] <isundil_> *cd
[14:08] <zrin> I've copied a 10.10 server from a single disk with lvm to lvm on raid10, updated fstab, mdadm.conf, grub; the boot process stops and hangs after mounting. I can boot with "rw init=/bin/bash", I can boot with "rw init=/sbin/init", but not with the standard "ro" ... what is happening?
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> theres no cd on an acer aspire one
[14:08] <envase> Laurence, do you have windows already installed?
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> no
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> it has the acer os thing
[14:08] <Laurenceb__> which isnt working
[14:08] <yeats> Laurenceb__: can you get a usb stick?
[14:08] <envase> is that linux based?
[14:08] <envase> right okay
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> yeats: not easily
[14:09] <yeats> Laurenceb__: it may be easier than the alternatives ;-)
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> i was wondering if theres another easier way
[14:09] <envase> i'd recommend just getting a usb stick though really.
[14:09] <envase> yes, exactly yeats
[14:09] <Laurenceb__> ok
[14:10] <mohit> i have searched about my problem "Ubuntu hangs without any reasons "  .. result i got Binary package : nautilus ... is it true
[14:10] <xptical> Any water walkers in here?
[14:10] <bllgvn> ourlady
[14:10] <ikonia> xptical: water walkers ?
[14:11] <xptical> If you don't know, don't ask
[14:11] <rigved> zrin: i may be wrong here, but you could try to install grub instead of just update grub
[14:11] <ikonia> xptical: is it anything to do with ubutnu ?
[14:11] <jiohdi> mohit, it can hang if the memory is not sufficient
[14:11] <zrin> rigved: i did grub-install as well
[14:12] <envase> or conflicting drivers, possibly resulting in a deadlock situation