[00:02] <glitsj16> metalbiker: do you mean gnome-tweak-tool?
[00:03] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day :D
[00:04] <metalbiker> glitsj16: yeah, that's what i meant. well, i know it got renamed to gnome tweaks now but i'm trying to get that tool installed.
[00:04] <pumba> does anyone know which config file starts syndaemon when ubuntu starts on laptops?
[00:05] <metalbiker> i've been testing the daily builds since last month and i haven't been able to get it installed since.
[00:05] <glitsj16> metalbiker: i think that package is in the 'universe' repo, you'll need to add that repo before apt sees it
[00:06] <metalbiker> glitsj16: oh ok. can you tell me how? well, i can search for it online if need be.
[00:08] <glitsj16> metalbiker: sudo add-apt-repository universe .. sudo apt update after adding it to refresh your sources
[00:08] <metalbiker> glitsj16: sweet! thanks! that's easy enough. thank you!
[00:08] <pumba> :\
[00:09] <glitsj16> metalbiker: no trouble, wouldn't want to keep one from enabling/setting GNOME extensions heh
[00:10] <metalbiker> glitsj16: lol i can use it as is but man, i really do love the dash to dock extension.
[00:10] <glitsj16> metalbiker: same here, a FYI, you can use 'gnome-shell-extension-prefs' command too
[00:12] <glitsj16> although I'm not sure what's being changed in daily builds in regards to GNOME
[00:13] <metalbiker> glitsj16: ok, i'll try that out, too. i try to keep up with all of the changes and i just know that ubuntu gnome as a standalone flavor is not going to exist anymore but you may know that already. a number of changes are coming like a dock that's always visible which is cool and i think it's going to be customizable in a way.
[00:16] <glitsj16> metalbiker: I'm not exactly fully up to speed with what exactly is going to be introduced and in what version, but people in #ubuntu+1 might now (and the internets ofcourse) .. been using gnome-shell for a while now, so I look forward to what's going to happen in that regard
[00:19] <donofrio_> so I broke something ;( https://apaste.info/98nF
[00:19] <glitsj16> pumba: what is syndaemon?
[00:20] <metalbiker> glitsj16: ok, cool. i'll head over there and chat with those folks and see what they know. i do know that wayland is now the default display server and gnome is the default desktop now. it looks really cool with the ubuntu desktop stylings but with the gnome desktop.
[00:21] <glitsj16> metalbiker: enjoy :)
[00:30] <pumba> does anyone know which config file starts syndaemon when ubuntu starts on laptops?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: Pastebin ' dpkg -l libappstream3 ' . See what the status is .
[00:37] <jonfatino> Anyone here zfs expert? I'm building a home san with 6 or 8 3tb disks. I want to know if its best to just create raidz2 out the bat or raid1 pools and pool them all together for larger storage
[00:37] <jonfatino> I beleve with raidz2 in 6 drives if I want to expand the storage I have to add 6 more drives (ewwz)
[00:47] <glitsj16> jonfatino: have you asked in ##linux yet?
[00:48] <donofrio_> Bashing-om, https://apaste.info/PTSj
[00:51] <Bashing-om> !info libappstream3 xenial | donofrio_
[00:52] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: Try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' .
[00:52] <donofrio_> Bashing-om, when I do that I get unreable vide - it starts tearing on primary monitor
[00:54] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: Sorry, now that is above my skill set .
[00:54] <donofrio_> it's cool I lurk
[00:55] <pumba> does anyone know which config file starts syndaemon when ubuntu starts on laptops?
[00:56] <Bashing-om> donofrio_: That you can not run update commands suggest graver underlying issues .
[00:58] <oerheks> update makes your monitor tear??
[00:58] <donofrio_> no I can run apt-get dist-upgrade but the end result is tearing video on next reboot and only usable though ssh after ;(  it's and imax 5,1
[00:58] <donofrio_> imac 5,1 I meant
[01:05] <oerheks> donofrio_, if that machine has that old ati x1600, maybe this page is any help https://askubuntu.com/a/822334
[01:45] <pumba> does anyone know which config file starts syndaemon when ubuntu starts on laptops?
[01:50] <TheOneMenzie> pumba: Is there a systemd service for it?
[01:51] <pumba> im pretty sure
[01:51] <pumba> something runs the command on start up
[01:51] <pumba> and i dont know where its configured =\
[01:51] <pumba> cause i can see it running with the daemon flag when ps -ef | grep -i syndaemon
[01:52] <pumba> TheOneMenzie: wheere are teh systemd services defined
[01:54] <TheOneMenzie> In /etc/systemd/system/
[01:56] <pumba> checking
[02:07] <pumba> TheOneMenzie: i dont see it
[02:08] <TheOneMenzie> It's not systemd then...
[02:08] <TheOneMenzie> What are we wanting syndaemon for anyway?
[02:08] <pumba> well its for disabling touchpad while typing but whichever config file is starting it on bootup is setting the interal to 1 sec
[02:08] <pumba> i wanna change it
[02:09] <pumba> s/interal/interval
[02:10] <TheOneMenzie> Isn't there an option in System Settings to disable it?
[02:10] <pumba> not that i cansee i went thru sys settings and touchpad
[02:11] <TheOneMenzie> Oh OK
[02:11] <TheOneMenzie> What flavour?
[02:12] <pumba> this ubuntu 16 im pretty shure
[02:12] <TheOneMenzie> Main Ubuntu?
[02:12] <pumba> ya
[02:12] <TheOneMenzie> OK
[02:14] <TheOneMenzie> pumba: Try https://askubuntu.com/questions/270565/where-to-configure-syndaemon-settings
[02:15] <pumba> yeah when i do that
[02:15] <pumba> then there i 2 daemons running
[02:15] <pumba> =\
[02:15] <pumba> everytime i start =(
[02:16] <TheOneMenzie> Mm.
[02:18] <michbad> Hello, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Unity. To solve the problem with Chrome flickering, I did `sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-intel`, but since then sometimes after waking up sometimes the screen flickers, and also I can't set the brightness anymore, neither with the Brightness menu in Preferences, nor with the function keys. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:18] <TheOneMenzie> And you threw out the Intel video driver ... why.
[02:19] <michbad> It fixed the Chrome problem...
[02:20] <TheOneMenzie> But now you're probably using fbdev or VESA...
[02:20] <michbad> in xorg.conf.d I have a file 10-amdgpu.conf
[02:20] <TheOneMenzie> What you should do is disable hardware acceleration in Chrome and reinstall the Intel video driver.
[02:20] <TheOneMenzie> (unless you don't have an Intel GPU)
[02:21] <michbad> I do have Intel. I tried the hardware acceleration before and I don't remember it working, but I'll try.
[02:21] <michbad> Do I just install the same thing I purged?
[02:21] <TheOneMenzie> Yeah, then restart the X server
[02:25] <michbad> TheOneMenzie, thanks, it helped
[02:25] <TheOneMenzie> You're welcome
[03:17] <someone_> Hi , What is the best IRC client on linux ?
[03:17] <bazhang> someone_, there is none
[03:18] <bazhang> someone_, try some and decide for yourself
[03:18] <someone_> bazhang you are using what ?
[03:18] <bazhang> someone_, for gui hexchat knoversation mirc and many others, for cli irssi weechat
[03:19] <bazhang> someone_, hexchat
[03:20] <someone_> Ok , I will download it and try using it , thanks.
[04:48] <RendySurvage> having an issue where prosody will not launch via the service manager or through prosodyctl. The log files in /var/log/prosody/ don't show any activity. Any help?
[04:55] <help_me> Hi need skype for 32 bit
[04:55] <help_me> ?
[05:16] <help_me> Hi need skype for 32 bit
[05:16] <justyb11> help_me, Have you tried this?  http://www.wikihow.com/Install-Skype-Using-Terminal-on-Ubuntu
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:07] <help_me> Hi need skype for 32 bit
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !skype | help_me
[06:15] <madmanonmeds> uefi is there a special format
[06:16] <madmanonmeds> I was just installing 16.04 and forced uefi compatibility
[06:17] <madmanonmeds> it crashed during grub2 install
[06:17] <Lope> How can I run a special command when network-manager connects to a particular network?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | madmanonmeds
[06:20] <madmanonmeds> thank you
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> madmanonmeds: wich iso did you try install?
[06:39] <madmanonmeds> oops I was away, it just said 16.04
[06:43] <madmanonmeds> lotuspsychje:it has an efi folder
[06:48] <madmanonmeds> trying something else,bye
[07:18] <madmanonmeds> bex: you awake
[08:14] <alexac> how can it be possible to set sound parameters like resoulution in khz and bits?
[08:15] <EriC^^> alexac: file /path/to/file
[08:16] <fishcooker> is it possible to rsync to remove source files and directories after transfer?
[08:21] <alexac> EriC^^: i was meaning to say i am using DAC as an external soundcart and playing high resolution audio and my converstion rate is 48 khz but the sound files rate is higher, I know DAC supports higher rates, it should be possible to change it in the system for sound output somehow, isn't it?
[08:23] <BlackDalek> how can I connect to am IP camera on my LAN?
[08:23] <BlackDalek> an*
[08:26] <alexac> apparently i found what i have searched for here: https://r3dux.org/2013/12/how-to-enable-high-quality-audio-in-linux/
[08:38] <BlackDalek> how do I view an IP camera from ubuntu?
[08:50] <one_god> Need to install helix server
[08:51] <one_god> Please ?
[08:53] <one_god> Need to install helix server
[08:53] <one_god> Please ?
[09:10] <MonkeyDust> one_god  is this useful https://forums.perforce.com/index.php?/topic/5291-how-to-uninstallreinstall-helix-p4d-under-ubuntudebian/
[09:12] <lkthomas> folks, on /etc/sudoers file, #includedir the # sign is on purpose there right ?
[09:13] <one_god> Ya that is for reinstalling
[09:13] <one_god> Can you provide me download source instead ?
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> lkthomas  i have it too and never touched it
[09:14] <lkthomas> but that includedir would work, correct ?
[09:23] <geirha> PAGER='less +/#includedir' man sudoers
[09:33] <vlt> BlackDalek: I don't know of any standard for an "IP camera". Do you know its IP address already? Can you connect to port 80 or 443?
[09:34] <karelb> hello... I started to install a broken dpkg package that hangs forever in post-install script. I don't know how to get rid of it... whenever I do `dpkg --configure -a`, it starts installing again
[09:34] <karelb> any tip?
[09:35] <karelb> `apt-get remove` tells me I should do the `dpkg --configure -a`
[09:35] <karelb> but I don't want that, it just starts installing it
[09:37] <karelb> dpkg --remove PACKAGE_NAME worked
[09:37] <karelb> ha
[09:44] <colo-work> hi!
[09:45] <colo-work> is it possible to retroactively switch a ubuntu 16.04 installation to the HWE stack of kernel et al. that 16.04.3 installs?
[09:47] <iresf> nable to complete install: 'Cannot access storage file '/media/my-user/win-server/Vm/server2.qcow2' (as uid:121, gid:129): Permission denied   ????
[09:59] <tomeaton17> I have a program in the app menu which I want to get rid of. How can I find out where this program is located?
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  which [program]
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  or whereis [program]
[10:01] <tomeaton17> nothing comes up
[10:01] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: how did you install the program
[10:01] <tomeaton17> I can't remember I think with an install script
[10:02] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: type "grep -i name_of_program /usr/share/applications/*"
[10:03] <tomeaton17> Ok its there, how do I get rid of it
[10:04] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: what's the name of the .desktop file at the start of the line?
[10:04] <tomeaton17> "arduino-arduinoide.desktop"
[10:06] <colo-work> tomeaton17, does   `dpkg -S arduino-arduinoide.desktop`   yield anything?
[10:06] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: ok, try dpkg -S /usr/share/applications/arduino-arduinoide.desktop
[10:07] <tomeaton17> EriC^^ it says no path found matching pattern
[10:08] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: did you use the complete path?
[10:08] <tomeaton17> EriC^^: yes
[10:08] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: try "dpkg -l | grep arduino"
[10:09] <tomeaton17> EriC^^: Ok it lists arduino and arduino core
[10:10] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: ok sudo apt-get remove arduino arduino-core
[10:11] <tomeaton17> EriC^^: That remove arduino-core from dpkg -l but not arduino
[10:12] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: what's the package name?
[10:12] <tomeaton17> I guess Arduino
[10:12] <tomeaton17> I tried to remove it with sudo apt-get remove arduino a while back and that didn't work
[10:12] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: try "dpkg -l | grep arduino | nc termview.me 9999"
[10:13] <tomeaton17> whats termview
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> tomeaton17  try this    sudo apt install aptitude && sudo aptitude purge ~c
[10:13] <EriC^^> it's a pastebin
[10:14] <tomeaton17> http://termview.me/1edu/
[10:15] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: ok, it's removed that's just the config files remaining
[10:16] <tomeaton17> EriC^^: Ok, the purge did something. How do I get the icon out of the dash?
[10:16] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: right click unlock from launcher
[10:16] <tomeaton17> I mean in the search menu
[10:16] <EriC^^> tomeaton17: logging out and back in might remove it
[10:16] <tomeaton17> ok, brb
[10:17] <oerheks> if you installed it manually, the icon will be gone after logout/login
[10:19] <tomeaton17> Ok thanks guys that solved it.
[10:39] <ololorin> Hello. I have ubuntu 16.04, and I have a problem with my nvidia gpu. I have nvidia geforce gt 740m as a second graphics card. I installed nvidia proprietary drivers version 384 and did prime-select nvidia. Everything works fine, except i can't wake from suspend. I get a black screen and "GPU has fallen of the bus". I googled and tried different things, but nothing seems to help my problem
[10:42] <oerheks> ololorin, seen that before, try to switch to tty2 and back to tty7 >  ctrl alt F2 .. wait... ctrl alt F7
[10:43] <sruli> "myfunc() { (inotifywait -e attrib /tmp/file) & for i in {1..50} ; do echo $i; sleep 1 ;done }" how can i stop the loop when inotifywait is triggered?
[10:44] <ololorin> oerheks, these keys do not work
[10:44] <ololorin> i don't have control over the keyboard
[10:44] <ololorin> when this message is up
[10:45] <oerheks> ololorin, oh, no clue then how to fix that :-( suspend/hybernate can give issues with some configurations..
[10:46] <ololorin> :c well, thanks anyway
[10:46] <hateball> ololorin: have you tested with 381? 384 is beta afaik
[10:47] <hateball> ololorin: hmm my bad, seems 384 is promoted to longlived now
[10:48] <oerheks> there is a troubleshoot wiki for this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[10:48] <ololorin> hateball, same thing with 381
[10:49] <ololorin> i saw an opinion that some suspend issues were fixed with 381, but, well, 381 and 384 both don't give any success
[10:50] <hateball> ololorin: have you looked here? https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/board/98/linux/
[10:50] <hateball> usually has good posts
[10:53] <ololorin> hateball, i saw a few threads there, but they are mostly unanswered
[10:53] <ololorin> oerheks, thanks, i'll try to look into it
[10:53] <ololorin> afk
[10:59] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:07] <yadw1> Hello! Sorry for bothering, I'd like to ask support for a bit of a problem that I have every time I boot the computer.
[11:08] <colo-work> hi yadw1 - go on and state your problem; if someone in here knows how to help, they will chime in
[11:10] <yadw1> Basically, 9 times out of 10 after selecting Ubuntu on the grub2 screen, I get a brief splash screen and then the monitor goes black (yet the backlight is still on) and it gets stuck. So the only thing I can do is to keep on trying until it eventually boots properly
[11:10] <yadw1> Is there anything I can do?
[11:13] <cbrowne> hi guys
[11:14] <cbrowne> so I'm trying to install 16.04.3 LTS from USB (my PC does not have an optical drive), and I keep getting a black screen from the installer - I tried nomodeset, nolapic, noapic, acpi=off and nothing works - it gets a little further with nomodeset (the splash screen shows up) but after that the screen goes into standby and doesn't wake up again, this morning I even went and made breakfast and
[11:14] <cbrowne> came back about 15 minutes later and it was still unresponsive
[11:15] <cbrowne> I've tried two different thumb drives now, one of which is a brand new intenso USB 3 drive; it is possible that my ISO is dodgy which is what I'm about to check; are there any other ideas?
[11:15] <ioria> cbrowne, how did you do the stick ? and what's your video card ?
[11:16] <cbrowne> with rufus and GTX 1080 founders edition
[11:16] <ioria> hoi
[11:17] <ioria> cbrowne, for starter, we usually suggest to check the iso and the written image
[11:19] <cbrowne> md5 checks out on the iso
[11:20] <brainwash> cbrowne: maybe this helps https://askubuntu.com/questions/795547/ubuntu-16-04-unable-to-boot-with-gtx-1080
[11:22] <cbrowne> hmm, good idea - not 100% sure if it will work with my configuration but I can probably hack something similar together; I'll let you know how I get on
[11:22] <ioria> cbrowne, or use nouveau.modeset=0  (instead of nomodeset)
[11:33] <yadw1> Sorry if I insist, but does anyone know how to solve my issue too?
[11:37] <hroi> hi
[11:37] <hroi> my root file system is unresponsive
[11:40] <ioria> !details | hroi
[11:47] <MWM> I have got a directory full of subdirectories full of mp4 and have ripped them to mp3.  I want to move the mp3 to another location (locally) while maintaining the current diirectory structure.  I tried rsync but it has been hanging for about 12 hours now and shows no signs of completing.
[11:48] <MWM> rsync -a --include "*/' ---inclide '*.mp3' --exclude '*' /source /destination <-- are the parameters I set for rsync
[11:49] <MWM> never mind... I see the problem here.  "include" not "inclide"
[11:51] <MWM> weird that it got anything done instead of throwing an error right away\
[11:56] <fdjdk> i cannot mount a network folder, i get the error 121
[11:57] <fdjdk> is the channel alive?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> !patience
[11:59] <ducasse> fdjdk: what kind of network folder - nfs, cifs etc?
[11:59] <fdjdk> cifs
[12:02] <ducasse> error 121 seems to be "Remote I/O error - refer to mount.cifs(8) manual page". try looking there if it tells you anything.
[12:31] <fdjdk> what's haooened to the channel?
[12:31] <nemo> A netsplit presumably
[13:10] <DaVinciIT> hi all. ubuntu 16.04 . sda1 disk full . boot directory. can you suggest me a link "how to" ? thank you.
[13:10] <sponge> Hello
[13:10] <oerheks> DaVinciIT, run sudo apt autoremove # to remove unused old kernels
[13:10] <DaVinciIT> thank you
[13:11] <sponge> Recently (maybe after the latest updates, but not sure), on Xubuntu 16.04, whenever I change the layout, my second layout has scroll-lock enabled (the scroll lock light on the keyboard turns on). I cannot disable the scroll-lock there. It prevents me from navigating with the arrows/pageup/pagedown. Is there a way to fix this?
[13:14] <DaVinciIT> thank you oerheks : I've this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25312226/
[13:15] <oerheks> Dalinux errors are fun, often they give a correct suggestioN; run sudo apt-get -f install # and try autoremove again?
[13:15] <oerheks> DaVinciIT ^
[13:15] <grimsley> Is there any reason why I need to click on my second internal hard drive (gui) before I can access it through the terminal ?
[13:16] <DaVinciIT> oerheks:  it ask me to install and it needs 139mb disk space :) Y/n ?
[13:17] <oerheks> DaVinciIT, hmm .. as there is no space, that action will stop too..
[13:17] <oerheks> DaVinciIT, if you have synaptic installed, use that to remove the oldest kernel?
[13:17] <DaVinciIT> I think ... this is the problem :)
[13:17] <DaVinciIT> I've ubuntu server installation with no gui
[13:18] <oerheks>  dpkg --list | grep linux-image # this shoudl show installed kernels, and remove it with dpkg -r <kernel>
[13:19] <oerheks> many ways to do this, autoremove would be the easiest way
[13:19] <BluesKaj> or  sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.24-25-* (example)
[13:19] <DaVinciIT> :) ok thank you very much
[13:20] <oerheks> grimsley, disks are recognised natively, but it is only direct accessable when you put it in fstab
[13:20] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[13:22] <grimsley> oerheks, thanks. I figured it was something silly like that.
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> grimsley  add the disk to fstab, then type   sudo mount -a    <-- all
[13:26] <Pyro_Killer> hello Ubuntuers, I was wondering, when you do a minimalist installation, there appears a dialog for network configuration, does this program have a name, and can it be used after the install
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> Pyro_Killer  it's called nm-applet, iirc
[13:28] <oerheks> during install.. isn't that ubiquity?
[13:29] <grimsley> oerheks, MonkeyDust Does this look right /dev/sdb ntfs or am I missing additional parameters ?
[13:29] <Pyro_Killer> When I had a look, it seems to be part of the network-manager, I don't know that it would fit in the 50MB of the disk image
[13:30] <Pyro_Killer> ubiquity has 300MB of dependencies, it's just using dialogs, which I thought was clever
[13:31] <nemo> Pyro_Killer: it isn't by any chance part of dpkg-reconfigure ?
[13:31] <oerheks> 50 mb.. that only can contain the netboot iso.. mini iso is over 100mb
[13:31] <scotty_> G'day all.  What is the status of the Firefox 55 build?
[13:32] <Pyro_Killer> I meant the netboot, but it still configures the network for you
[13:32] <oerheks> scotty_, not yet read, we are waiting too .. https://launchpad.net/firefox
[13:32] <oerheks> c/ready
[13:32] <oerheks> or skip ff 55, and go straight to 56 beta :-D https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next
[13:33] <oerheks> ( not advised, but you can)
[13:39] <DaVinciIT> nothing to do ... can I remove manually that files ?
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> i switched to chromium-browser, lightning fast, especially when launched in a Firejail sandbox
[13:45] <DaVinciIT> oerheks:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/25312357/
[13:46] <DaVinciIT> I think I need to modify partition.
[13:49] <nemo> MonkeyDust: speed varies a lot on what's being rendered.  but in general firefox is far more memory efficient than chrome, and the rendering layer on linux is skia, same as chrome
[13:51] <nemo> personally skia has been hit or miss for me compared to cairo. it really depends.  but it is default now so doesn't matter anyway
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> nemo  true, chromium shows more PIDs than firefox
[13:54] <nemo> MonkeyDust: well. that's one measure.  but just in terms of general bloat.  they are planning to finally address that in upcoming releases, but FF folks have been working on it for years
[13:55] <nemo> MonkeyDust: like my coworker's windows lapto. 4 gigs of RAM and *3 Gigs* used by a handful of chrome tabs.
[13:55] <nemo> and he's wondering while all his other apps (firefox, IE, outlook) are lagging ☺
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> anywayz, we're here to learn
[13:55] <nemo> MonkeyDust: they are gonna address that with similar approach to firefox - that is, suspending tabs more aggressively
[14:04] <oerheks> Марк Шаттлворт
[14:04] <malinus> davaj davaj
[14:55] <Gargoyle> Hi there. I installed Hiri via a snap package, but I cannot choose it as my default mail application. Is there a work-around I can implement or a bug report I can have a stab at?
[15:00] <fdjdk> useless channel
[15:01] <oerheks> Gargoyle, i think a snap cannot be set as default for now :-( just tried, as i have installed hiri too
[15:04] <oerheks> fdjdk, just scrolled back, searching for error 121 and cifs gives an answer on top
[15:04] <oerheks> so, thanks for the rant
[15:13] <fdjdk> what answer?
[15:22] <Gargoyle> oerheks, ok. Thanks!
[15:24] <malinus> fdjdk: easy now :)
[15:24] <tgm4883> fdjdk: looks like a few possible answers. 1 is a registry change on the windows side, the other is an option in the mount parameters
[15:24] <tgm4883> fdjdk: I'd try this first https://askubuntu.com/questions/808712/why-am-i-getting-mount-error-121-remote-i-o-error
[15:30] <fdjdk> vers=2.1 worked
[15:31] <tgm4883> good
[15:34] <sponge> Recently (maybe after the latest updates, but not sure), on Xubuntu 16.04, whenever I change the layout, my second layout has scroll-lock enabled (the scroll lock light on the keyboard turns on). I cannot disable the scroll-lock there. It prevents me from navigating with the arrows/pageup/pagedown. Is there a way to fix this?
[15:34] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: oerheks: never tried it with a snap package, but maybe creating a custom .desktop file might work .. check ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list --> [Default Applications] x-scheme-handler/mailto=foo.desktop & --> [Added Associations] x-scheme-handler/mailto=foo.desktop; .. and ~/.local/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache --> x-scheme-handler/mailto=foo.desktop; (change foo.desktop to what you called the custom one on your sy
[15:34] <glitsj16> stem)
[15:36] <grimsley> MonkeyDust, oerheks: I forgot to thanks for the information about fstab
[15:41] <hroi> hi,
[15:42] <hroi> I just hot plugged in a sata3 drive, but it is not showing up under /dev/sd*
[15:42] <nemo> hroi: check dmesg?
[15:42] <hroi> ok
[15:42] <hroi> dmesg show no even for last 3 hours
[15:43] <hroi> I plugged in drive 30 mins ago
[15:43] <nemo> so you hotplugged it then?
[15:43] <hroi> ok, but vanilla ubuntu server should support hotplug,?
[15:43] <hroi> in that case something wrong with cable or controller
[15:43] <nemo> hroi: linux may
[15:43] <nemo> are you sure the controller supports hotplug?
[15:44] <nemo> depends on the sata driver...
[15:44] <nemo> hroi: I'd suggest avoiding the whole question and just sticking w/ a reboot unless it is super inconvenient
[15:44] <hroi> nemo, OK, hmm didn'r realize perhaps it depends on the controller itself
[15:44] <nemo> hroi: controller, driver could both be failure points
[15:44] <nemo> hroi: just 'cause it is in the spec doesn't mean it is implemented in HW or driver
[15:44] <nemo> this is not as friendly as USB most of the time 😉
[15:45] <hroi> hmm, the motherboard is a fairly recent intel server motherboard,
[15:45] <hroi> maybe 3 years old
[15:45] <hroi> but you are right, so maybe driver related
[15:46] <nemo> hroi: it's hard to say. newness doesn't necessarily enter into it
[15:46] <hroi> yeah, newness even makes things worse
[15:46] <nemo> hroi: my relatively new motherboard was quite happy to corrupt my 4TB HD "backing up" the BIOS to the middle of it since it didn't realise drives could be larger than 2TB
[15:47] <nemo> yeah. takes a while to shake things out
[15:47] <nemo> hroi: ended up having to use one of my precious SATA connectors to keep my old drive around as "primary" just so that it wouldn't write to me new one
[15:47] <nemo> *my
[15:47] <hroi> SATA controller: Intel Corporation C600/X79 series chipset 6-Port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 06)
[15:48] <hroi> Serial Attached SCSI controller: Intel Corporation C602 chipset 4-Port SATA Storage Control Unit (rev 06)
[15:48] <hroi> these two I have under lspci
[15:49] <hroi> most likely need to reboot
[15:49] <nemo> https://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/white-papers/333596-hot-plug-capability-nvme-ssds-paper.pdf
[15:49] <nemo> hroi: says 3.10 kernel with additional 3.14 fixes
[15:49] <nemo> yay googling
[15:49] <tsglove> lol... nobody says     yay binging!
[15:49] <nemo> tsglove: it's become a verb
[15:49] <nemo> tsglove: it was technically binging since DDG but eh
[15:50] <nemo> DDGing doesn't roll off the tongue
[15:50] <tsglove> nemo, I always use ddg for everything
[15:50] <tsglove> Well, 99%.   There's that 1% I try google
[15:50] <nemo> yep. not hard to switch
[15:50] <nemo> both using bang syntax or just selecting alternate in firefox
[15:51] <nemo> which one I do depends on laziness
[15:51] <tsglove> nemo, true.  Exactly!  using ddg for everything, and  "searching"  instead of "googling"
[15:51] <nemo> ! syntax is more private
[15:51] <nemo> uhoh
[15:51] <nemo> I accidentally triggered the bot. dammit
[15:51] <nemo> I guess they don't expect chat to start w/ !
[15:51] <tsglove> lol which ?    !
[15:51] <nemo> yes
[15:52] <nemo> should have stuck w/ saying "bang"
[15:52] <tsglove> !bang
[15:52] <hroi> nemo, I just read that hotswap doesnt work with the linux kernel unless AHCI is enabled in the BIOS
[15:52] <hroi> this might be the issue here.
[15:52] <nemo> 'k
[15:54] <hroi> another guy suggest that $ modprobe acpiphp   is necessary
[15:54] <hroi> its not in my lsmod
[15:54] <nemo> kk
[15:54] <nemo> I've always just rebooted
[15:54] <nemo> usually had some kernel update pending anyway 😉
[16:00] <tsglove> !
[16:00] <Gargoyle> Thanks glitsj16, I'll give that a whirl as a work around. Is that what populates the available apps in the lists on the default apps settings dialog?
[16:05] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: yes, the system > details > default applications item in gnome-control-center does, you might need to point the .desktop file to a small shell script in your ~/bin if your snap package needs that (which I'm not sure about)
[16:06] <Gargoyle> glitsj16, Nor me. But trying to work it out.
[16:08] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: you can query/set your defaults via xdg-mime, what do you have set currently for x-scheme-handler/mailto?
[16:16] <Gargoyle> glitsj16, xdg-mime query default x-scheme-handler/mailto = thunderbird.desktop
[16:18] <Gargoyle> I'm guessing hiri is not available because it's .desktop file doesn't make it into /usr/share/applications/ because it's a snap?
[16:20] <ioria> Gargoyle, i don't use snap,  but can't you make one up ?
[16:20] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: probably yes, but nothing stops you from creating a custom .desktop file for it, reference the correct command to launch it in the 'Exec=...' line and set that as default mime handler
[16:20] <ioria> Gargoyle, http://www.bettertechtips.com/linux/install-hiri-linux/   there is a model
[16:21] <Gargoyle> glitsj16, Yup. Will probably do that as a work around, but want to see if I can figure out why the snap isn't being made available and see if I can fix.
[16:24] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: odd that snap packages don't install that, or maybe it's only a problem with the hiri one, don't know
[16:24] <ioria> Gargoyle, so you don't have at all an hiri.desktop somewhere ?  sudo updatedb && locate hiri.desktop
[16:25] <Gargoyle> Well, I thought snaps were self contained, so is it more a program needs to be run to "reach into" all the snaps and pull this out?
[16:26] <voldial> How do I get the configured dns server from the command line? I'm 14.04.4, /etc/resolv.conf is pointing to <IP_ADDRESS>, and "man resolvconf" does not show a option to list the current configured dns sserver. I have dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/network/interfaces, and I rebooted, but I still cant resolve names (I can ping <IP_ADDRESS>)
[16:26] <Gargoyle> locate hiri.desktop = /snap/hiri/5/meta/gui/hiri.desktop /snap/hiri/5/snap/gui/hiri.desktop /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/hiri_hiri.desktop
[16:26] <ioria> voldial, /etc/network/interfaces
[16:27] <voldial> ioria: https://bpaste.net/show/8998a4721521
[16:27] <Gargoyle> The one at /snap/hiri/5... is the one where it is running from (according to ps -aux)
[16:30] <voldial> ioria: that line "dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>" in /etc/network/interfaces should work right?
[16:30] <ioria> voldial, yep .... <IP_ADDRESS>    is correct ?
[16:30] <glitsj16> Gargoyle: try copying that to your ~/.local/share/applications folder and it might get recognized, I don't think xdg-mime scans anything under /snap (yet)
[16:30] <voldial> ioria: yes
[16:31] <ioria> voldial,  anything in  /etc/net/interfaces.d ?
[16:32] <voldial> ioria: no (/etc/net/interfaces.d does not exist)
[16:32] <ioria> voldial,  i meant  in  /etc/network/interfaces.d
[16:33] <voldial> ioria: empty dir
[16:37] <ioria> voldial,   network-manager is installed or not ?
[16:37] <voldial> ioria: no
[16:37] <voldial> ioria: no nmcli available
[16:40] <gabrielc> voldial:  dig +short lwn.net @<IP_ADDRESS>
[16:40] <voldial> gabrielc: connection timed out... so I have a firewall problem sending UDP?
[16:41] <ioria> voldial,   sudo ufw status
[16:41] <gabrielc> voldial: maybe
[16:41] <ioria> voldial,   should be 53
[16:41] <voldial> ioria:  ufw status -> inactive
[16:42] <ioria> voldial,   it's a fresh install ?
[16:42] <voldial> it's prob my gateway firewall... checking
[16:42] <gabrielc> voldial:  dig +short lwn.net @<IP_ADDRESS> or dig +short lwn.net @localdnsserveripaddress or dig +short lwn.net @dnsofyourisp
[16:43] <voldial> gabrielc: got it. my local gateway lets me resolv, I'll use that instead of <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:43] <Kiicki> Is it possible to share a folder and make it writable and make everything in that foler writable too? As an example, if I share my "downloads" folder and make it writable, only the "downloads" folder is writable. Not the other folders that is inside there. I want to make everything writable because I will map the "downloads" folder to another PC that runs windows 10
[16:43] <voldial> ioria: thanks, working now
[16:43] <ioria> voldial,   good
[16:48] <urko> hello
[16:50] <urko> gow can I see the users on this window ?
[16:50] <nemo> what client are you using?
[16:51] <notnotdan> Hi. I am trying to switch to a virtual console, however doig Ctl-Alt-F3 or F4 doesn't do anything apart from taking focus from the X server or Wayland. I am running Gnome if that matters.
[16:51] <nemo> urko: /names is the generic way tho
[16:52] <nemo> notnotdan: welll.... which one? X or wayland?
[16:52] <nemo> I mean both have the bindings but it impacts debugging quite a bit 😝
[16:53] <notnotdan> nemo: sorry, Wayland
[16:53] <notnotdan> I don't know why I have mentioned X
[16:53] <urko> IRC-Xchat Gnome ...MEMO
[16:53] <nemo> ah.  totally clueless about wayland personally *bows out*
[16:53] <nemo> urko: pretty sure xchat has a sidebar w/ users...
[16:53] <urko> w/ users
[16:54] <urko> it doesn't works...
[16:55] <nemo> urko: go to your prefs.  there should be a section for user list
[16:55] <nemo> maybe is just turned off
[16:55] <tgm4883> urko: you should use hexchat since xchat is no longer developed
[16:55] <nemo> notnotdan: I plan to stay off Wayland as long as possible ☺
[16:55] <ioria> notnotdan, are you on 17.10 ?
[16:55] <urko> I'm new at Linux... i'm not able to open prefs.
[16:58] <MonkeyDust> urko  is it ubuntu?
[16:58] <tomreyn> Kiicki: to share files hosted on linux with a windows system over network, use samba / cifs. you'll need to install and configure this service.
[16:58] <irated> can you do .mount in a systemd Afterr=
[16:58] <Kiicki> tomreyen Samba is actually what I use. II share the "downloads" folder and I have made it writable. the downloads folder is indeed writable but not folders inside there.
[16:59] <notnotdan> ioria: Yes
[17:00] <notnotdan> nemo: I just tried using X -- the same issue persists
[17:00] <irated> sorry *.mount
[17:00] <Kiicki> example is that I have a folder named "movies" and another named "tv-shows" inside downloads. can't I just share downloads and make it writable and everything inside it? I don't see why I would need to share and make each folder writable. seems like a hassle when it comes to folders inside folders, inside folders etc
[17:00] <ioria> ubuntu+1 | notnotdan
[17:00] <ioria> ubuntu+1  notnotdan
[17:01] <tomreyn> !
[17:01] <tomreyn> :-P
[17:01] <notnotdan> Oh wait, sorry ioria
[17:01] <notnotdan> I am on 17.04
[17:01] <nemo> notnotdan: huh... so you can't ctrl-alt-f1 at all. from either one...
[17:02] <ioria> notnotdan,  sudo chvt 1
[17:02] <tomreyn> Kiicki: it's probably due to how the file system permissions are set on those directories
[17:02] <notnotdan> nemo: If I ctrl-alt-f1 it brings me to the GNOME login screen. If I do Ctrl-Alt-F3 I just loose focus of the desktop, but I still see it.
[17:02] <tomreyn> Kiicki: i.e. the system user samba uses to access these files does not have permission to access those in the subdirectories
[17:03] <nemo> notnotdan: wild. it's like the standard VTs weren't even setup
[17:03] <notnotdan> ioria: `chvt 1` switches me to the login screen. chvt 3 has the same effect as Ctrl-Alt-F3
[17:03] <tomreyn> Kiicki: there is the "force user = ..." instruction you could use on the share configuration which, depending on your file system configuration, might help.
[17:04] <nemo> notnotdan: would be nice to see what your inittab looks like
[17:04] <pavlos> Kiicki: there are 2 options, create mask = 0777 and directory mask = 0777 which you can put in the [whatyoushare] section on smb.conf
[17:04] <ioria> notnotdan,  alt+left/right arrow
[17:05] <Kiicki> I will look into it. the idea is that I want to share that "downloads" folder and map it to another computer that runs windows 10. from that windows computer, I want to access that downloads folder like if it was local. anything that is inside should be writable as in adding, deleting, editing etc
[17:05] <glitsj16> irated: I don't think systemd supports globbing like that in unit files. You might try using the full unit name of the mount you need, or use RequiresMountsFor
[17:05] <Kiicki> right now, only downloads folder is that. anything inside downloads is readable but not writable
[17:06] <nemo> notnotdan: hm... found this one... https://askubuntu.com/questions/536815/xubuntu-14-04-no-virtual-terminals
[17:06] <nemo> notnotdan: did not even occur to me that this could happen
[17:06] <notnotdan> ioria: If I do `chvt 3` and press Alt-Right Arrow then it switches me back to VT1, if I press Alt-Left Arrow it switches me to VT2. Same if I change to vt5 first
[17:07] <ioria> notnotdan,  so, can you enter console  or not ?
[17:07] <notnotdan> nemo: sorry for being a noob, but how can I just my inittab? Is it /etc/init/rc-sysinit.conf?
[17:07] <notnotdan> ioria: no, I cannot enter console
[17:07] <sponge> Recently, on Xubuntu 16.04, whenever I change the layout, my second layout has scroll-lock enabled (the scroll lock light on the keyboard turns on). I cannot disable the scroll-lock there. It prevents me from navigating with the arrows/pageup/pagedown. Is there a way to fix this?
[17:08] <pavlos> Kiicki: whenever you modify smb.conf, check it with testparm and then bounce samba
[17:08] <ioria> notnotdan,  sudo kbd_mode -s
[17:08] <notnotdan> nemo: I am not sure if that askubuntu question is related. I stumbled upon it before and I dont think I have a similar card or a similar set of issues :/
[17:09] <Kiicki> pavlos I'm really not that technical but I just found out that I got a reply on the same question in the forums. Does his answer seem right? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2368673
[17:09] <notnotdan> ioria: I am not sure if it did anything. Still cannot access a virtual console
[17:10] <nemo> notnotdan: not similar card. but. same right? you can't get to VTs, so you don't have any?
[17:10] <nemo> doubt inittab or whatever the heck ubuntu uses these days would fix.
[17:11] <notnotdan> hm, so what are my options then?
[17:12] <pavlos> Kiicki: if you have only one user, morbius, that should work.
[17:12] <nemo> notnotdan: try same test dude in that bug did maybe?
[17:13] <nemo> nomodeset ?
[17:13] <nemo> notnotdan: or... different driver. maybe just standard VGA as an experiment. if that works then hunt for a better one
[17:13] <ioria> notnotdan,  how did you install wayland ?
[17:13] <nemo> ioria: he says it impacts X too tho.
[17:13] <nemo> and the sudo chvt didn't work so it seems to me those VTs weren't even created
[17:14] <Kiicki> pavlos I only got one user on linux yes. I only got one user on Windows too
[17:14] <notnotdan> ioria: I dunno, I think it came with Ubuntu?
[17:14] <ioria> notnotdan, not on 17.04, i guess
[17:14] <notnotdan> Like as soon as I have installed Gnome, the option "GNOME (Wayland)" was available to me
[17:15] <ioria> notnotdan, experimental i think
[17:15] <ioria> notnotdan, let's say "don't use it" :þ
[17:16] <notnotdan> Oh, I don't think it was labeled as such. Oh well, I will be using X then
[17:16] <Kiicki> pavlos but you wouldn't recommend doing the morbius way? The way you said it, doesn't seem that versatile in case I do get multiple users.
[17:16] <ioria> notnotdan, please reboot and use the default session
[17:17] <pavlos> Kiicki: I dont since I have many users on win10. Win10 should see \\host\sharename and write in there
[17:18] <gabrielc> notnotdan: read the content. ls /etc/init/tty?.conf
[17:20] <irated> glitsj16: thanks, We are going to work around it with chef. Docker startup is broken :/
[17:20] <irated> we had two file systems go split brain because it didnt wait for filesystems during systemd.
[17:20] <irated> I really dont want to get in the buisness of managing service startup files :)
[17:21] <irated> I was going to do a PR.
[17:22] <notnotdan> ioria: Ugh, so it appears to be actually working after a second reboot :[
[17:22] <notnotdan> I will try to stick to using X and see if the problem persists
[17:22] <ioria> notnotdan, ok
[17:24] <notnotdan> ioria: would you recommend downgrading to ubuntu 16?
[17:24] <urko> hello everybody !
[17:25] <ioria> notnotdan, depends  on your needs
[17:25] <ioria> notnotdan, using a normal release means upgrade every 9 months
[17:26] <glitsj16> irated: welcome, quite understandable (never was a huge fan of docker myself) .. all the best
[17:26]  * aloo_shu feels tempted to change it's nick to 'everybody' for a minute
[17:40] <ioria> notnotdan, "The 'experimental' wayland session is included but is not the default " : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME#Other_Software_Updates
[17:49] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.  I have skype installed but I need the most recent version of skype.  How do I get that?
[17:50] <nacc> Richard_Cavell: skype is not an ubuntu package, afaik
[17:50] <genii> !skype
[17:53] <EriC^^> Richard_Cavell: i think the latest skype is from the skype website
[17:54] <EriC^^> Richard_Cavell: see here, the linux deb option https://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[18:20] <lts1> How can I debug why "/sbin/mdadm --examine --scan --config=partitions" hangs on my system?
[18:21] <leftyfb> lts1: strace and dmesg
[18:22] <lts1> leftyfb: dmesg says nothing at all and if I connect to the process with "strace -p <pid>", I get "strace: Process 14411 attached" and then strace also hangs forever
[18:22] <leftyfb> lts1: strace /sbin/mdadm --examine --scan --config=partitions
[18:22] <lts1> leftyfb: is it safe to run another one while the first is hung?
[18:23] <leftyfb> I wouldn't
[18:23] <lts1> heh
[18:31] <lts1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1697544 seems maybe related
[18:31] <lts1> except I don't have a "/dev/dm-9" or multipathd
[18:34] <JonelethIrenicus> how do i remove arm software sources i accidentally added
[18:35] <malinus> JonelethIrenicus: edit /etc/apt/sources.lits
[18:36] <leftyfb> or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/(whatever file you wrote)
[18:55] <malinus> Hello. My mute buttons seems to call "amixer -q sset Master toggle". But "amixer -q sset Master toggle" isn't actually able to toggle. It can only turn off. Calling "amixer -q sset Master toggle" again doesn't turn the sound on again. Any ideas?
[18:55] <malinus> "buttons" being the mute button
[18:57] <strive> malinus: Add unmute at the end of those lines.
[18:58] <strive> malinus: Here's what I have: http://dpaste.com/2PYZXA4
[18:58] <malinus> strive: yeah, but what did you do with "XF86AudioMute"?
[18:59] <malinus> strive: that's where I have the problem, +/- works just fine (same as yours)
[18:59] <malinus> oh
[18:59] <strive> I don't use that; pressing volume up or down unmutes it.
[18:59] <strive> I don't need mute.
[18:59] <malinus> oh okay, that seems to do the trick just fine. Not perfect solution but okay
[19:00] <strive> That's just my preference as I don't use the Mute button.
[19:00] <ioria> malinus, xdotool key XF86AudioMute
[19:01] <malinus> ioria: I have the button. I can't see how simulating its press would solve my issue?
[19:06] <ioria> malinus, it works also to unmute
[19:12] <Kiicki> pavlos you here? I got both my Ubuntu and Windows up. I'm not that technical so I'm not totally sure what to do with "Samba"
[19:13] <pavlos> Kiicki: did you change smb.conf? if so, restart samaba
[19:14] <Kiicki> No, I'm not even sure what that is or where to find it
[19:14] <Kiicki> is that in the samba itself or commands?
[19:14] <ioria> Kiicki,  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:15] <ioria> Kiicki,  first make a backup of that file
[19:15] <Kiicki> one
[19:15] <Kiicki> done*
[19:17] <Kiicki> the thing is that I have found my shared folder in that file. It is writable and everything so that seems ok. Problem is, folders inside the shared folder is not writable
[19:17] <Kiicki> I want to make that folder and everything in it to be writable
[19:17] <pavlos> Kiicki: did you add the create mask and directory mask for that share?
[19:18] <Kiicki> in the file? no, I just opened it now for the first tiem
[19:18] <Kiicki> time*
[19:18] <pavlos> Kiicki: [sharename] path= ... create mask 0777 directory mask 0777
[19:19] <pavlos> Kiicki: [sharename] writable = yes
[19:20] <pavlos> Kiicki: look at this, https://superuser.com/questions/274793/creating-a-samba-share-where-everyone-has-write-access
[19:20] <Kiicki> I have actually made so everyone can access it. Yes, it's not great for security but I'm doing one thing at the time. it was just to get rid of permission and focus on the real problem
[19:20] <Kiicki> like user permission doesn't seem to be the problem
[19:20] <ioria> Kiicki,  how do you login from win,  with or without passwd ?
[19:22] <pavlos> Kiicki: force directory mode = 2770 so that all subdirs can be group-writable
[19:23] <Kiicki> without password
[19:24] <Kiicki> I cannot even edit so I have permission over samba
[19:24] <ioria> Kiicki,  so it's an anonymous share ?
[19:24] <Kiicki> I guess so from my linux
[19:25] <Kiicki> I mean when I map it to my windows, in windows it does say the linux name
[19:25] <Kiicki> like where it comes from
[19:25] <Kiicki> but everyone could access it yes
[19:25] <ioria> Kiicki,  can you paste smb.conf ?
[19:26] <Kiicki> like here? sure, but samba says "root" is the owner
[19:26] <Kiicki> I couldn't even edit the smb.conf
[19:27] <ioria> Kiicki,  you need sudo to edit, but can /etc/samba/smb.conf works without it
[19:27] <ioria> *cat
[19:27] <Kiicki> I can open it yes, but I cannot edit it
[19:28] <ioria> Kiicki,  sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[19:29] <ioria> Kiicki,  and, btw, for an anonymous share i use this : https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/samba-server-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:29] <Kiicki> I'm on 14.0.3 : /
[19:29] <Kiicki> it's the latest version that supports my GPU
[19:29] <ioria> Kiicki,  it's the same
[19:29] <malinus> Kiicki: which GPU?
[19:29] <ioria> Kiicki,  amd ?
[19:30] <Kiicki> yeah
[19:30] <ioria> Kiicki,  cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | pastebinit
[19:31] <Kiicki> I'm so lost on linux. can't even find the exact GPU I have, but I knew it a few months ago. it's just an old PC I use as aserver
[19:31] <ioria> Kiicki,  lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[19:32] <pavlos> Kiicki: sudo lshw -c display
[19:32] <Kiicki> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25314065/
[19:32] <Kiicki> [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series]
[19:32] <badsektor> Kiicki: Kiicki lspci?
[19:33] <ioria> Kiicki,  	security = user
[19:34] <ioria> Kiicki,  can you really  from win with that file ?
[19:34] <ioria> +connect
[19:34] <royal_screwup21> how do I kill a window that doesn't seem to close when I hit 'x'?
[19:34] <badsektor> royal_screwup21: xkill
[19:35] <royal_screwup21> badsektor: xkill <location of windows> ?
[19:35] <royal_screwup21> window*
[19:35] <geirha> alt+f2 -> xkill  point and click
[19:35] <badsektor> royal_screwup21: just type xkill it will give you instructions
[19:35] <Kiicki> actually this seem too complicated for me, despite I only want to make folders writable. like folders inside a folder that is shared and writable. I think I will go back to my old habit. Thanks you guys for all your help though!
[19:35] <strive> Kiicki: Don't give up :)
[19:36] <royal_screwup21> badsektor: damn!!!!
[19:36] <royal_screwup21> awesome, thanks!
[19:36] <badsektor> royal_screwup21: sure
[19:38] <badsektor> Kiicki: you can use: find . -type d -exec chmod +w
[19:39] <geirha> chmod g+w
[19:39] <badsektor> and i think there is a {} required in the end?
[19:39] <geirha> and + or \;
[19:40] <aguitel> what is the way to install the last firefox ?
[19:40] <Kiicki> Yeah, this is just out of my league. Thanks for trying at least!
[19:40] <badsektor> Kiicki: you can create fake folders and files and experiment on them
[19:40] <ioria> aguitel, no way (if you ask me)
[19:41] <badsektor> Kiicki: mkdir folders, touch files, ls -l to check their permissions, use chmod and find and chmod together
[19:41] <aguitel> ioria: ppa is unstable ?
[19:42] <ioria> aguitel, you want to use an unsupported app for browsing the web ?
[19:42] <aguitel> ioria: coz no
[19:42] <ioria> aguitel, so
[19:43] <pfifo> Hi ive been trying for several months to get my 32" LCD TV working with ubuntu again. I used to have an old nvidia 630 gt, and when I upgraded to a AMD 480 gtx the resoultion 1366x768 stopped appearing as a valid option for the monitor. I tried to generate one with cvt however all the modeline that it generates force an extra couple pixels makingthe final modeline 1368x768
[19:43] <aguitel> ioria: wait
[19:43] <ioria> yep
[19:44] <badsektor> Kiicki: find . means find [in this folder and its subfolders] that's what the period "." means
[19:44] <pfifo> Im not satisfied with the answers and info that I can get from google, the main reasoning is that #1 it used to work with my old card and #2 it works perfectly with windows
[19:44] <badsektor> Kiicki: find --help
[19:44] <badsektor> Kiicki: you can do a lot with find -exec [command], best ask in #bash though
[19:44] <geirha> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[19:44] <pfifo> So im really at quite a loss, how can I force cvt to generate a correct modeline?
[19:45] <badsektor> pfifo: best ask in #hardware
[19:46] <Kiicki> badsektor I'm good thanks. This is just way out of my league. this is just an old computer I use as a server. I know what I need to do in a different OS, so I guess that will be enough. I wanted to have Ubuntu on this because it would run better, but simply not worth all the hassle when I don't understand anything, just to make folders writable
[19:46] <Kiicki> but thanks anyway!
[19:46] <pavlos> pfifo: cvt 800 600
[19:46] <badsektor> Kiicki: it is so easy, don't give up. chmod +w <file or folder>
[19:46] <ioria> omg
[19:47] <pfifo> pavlos: ive tried several variant, none of them work, and i specifically need the native resolution of my monitor 1366x768 or it will produce alot of overscan
[19:47] <geirha> g+w
[19:47] <pfifo> Hi ive been trying for several months to get my 32" LCD TV working with ubuntu again. I used to have an old nvidia 630
[19:47] <pfifo>                gt, and when I upgraded to a AMD 480 gtx the resoultion 1366x768 stopped appearing as a valid option for the monitor. I
[19:47] <badsektor> pfifo, xrandr -s 1366x768
[19:47] <pfifo>                tried to generate one with cvt however all the modeline that it generates force an extra couple pixels makingthe final
[19:48] <pavlos> pfifo: if you pass those parms in cvt then add the modeline to X
[19:51] <pfifo> pavlos: https://pastebin.com/M0CywWx8
[19:52] <pfifo> pavlos: When I do that, you can see it forces a resolution of 1368x768 which is not 1366x768 that i had specified
[19:53] <pfifo> it also creates an error with my display, it dosent show my desktop only a warning about improper resolution and refresh rate
[19:53] <pfifo> badsektor: Size 1366x768 not found in available modes
[19:55] <badsektor> pfifo, there is a way to add it with a couple commands, you need to google for it
[19:55] <badsektor> pfifo: or just ask how in #xorg
[19:57] <oerheks> pfifo, your paste gives the answer.. 1368x768 59.88 not 60
[19:58] <alexac> any recommendation for a book that is covering both basic and advanced 'woring in OS' ground, and would help understanding depths of Ubuntu family in general, and would be still relevant and perhaps list the latest feautures of the system as well?
[19:58] <oerheks> and why HDMI-A-1? not HDMI-1??
[19:59] <pfifo> HDMI-A-0 is the other port, it is unused but reserved for my 3rd monitor
[19:59] <pfifo> oerheks: can you give details about what my pates is explining?
[19:59] <oerheks> oh, never seen that before namely
[20:05] <oerheks> newmode and addmode should have the same string, then addmode again with HDMI-A-1 1368x768_60.00
[20:07] <pfifo> yes I ran both, the mode was successfully added
[20:07] <pfifo> thats not the problem
[20:07] <pfifo> the problem is I requested 1366 from cvt, it gave me a modeline for 1368, and 1366 != 1368
[20:08] <oerheks> uhh, what does xrandr spit out now?
[20:09] <oerheks> or can they both run 85?
[20:09] <oerheks> :-P
[20:09] <pfifo> oerheks: https://pastebin.com/ZXNjCwmw
[20:13] <oerheks> i am not sure, but maybe: cvt 1360x768 60 # gives you a better modline?
[20:14] <alexac> should i manually update anything in ubuntu for security from time to time or the process(es) is fully automated?
[20:15] <foozb12> On 16.04 - I can't install 'qtdeclarative5-dialogs-plugin' - I get 'Depends: qml-module-qtquick-dialogs but it is not going to be installed' and says I have held broken packages. -f doesn't seem to do anything
[20:15] <oerheks> alexac, i would do it daily manually, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:16] <foozb12> How do I go about trouble shooting that? it appears specific to me, I don't find many similar errors through google
[20:16] <pfifo> oerheks: my display refuses to use that resolution
[20:16] <oerheks> foozb12, did you update before installing?
[20:17] <oerheks> pfifo, oke, this was a thought. dunno how to blacklist or remove that double resolution..
[20:17] <foozb12> oerheks, apt-get update yes, upgrade no
[20:18] <oerheks> one cause could be held back packages/kernel
[20:18] <oerheks> foozb12 *
[20:20] <oerheks> sudo dpkg --configure -a # this could solve some trouble too.
[20:24] <foozb12> Sorry had a call. The only held back packages I had were emacs related
[20:24] <foozb12> But I believe I unmarked them (16.04 emacs packages + self-compiled for some reason causes update issues. Somebody named a package emacs4 something)
[20:25] <foozb12> One sec I'll check
[20:26] <foozb12> Okay, no marked/held packages on my end
[20:26] <foozb12> and I ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a #'. Dunno what it does. Should I run update after it ?
[20:39] <foozb12> I gotta run. Thanks for the suggestions oerheks. I dunno, gonna have to work this out with google and luck. Cheers
[20:41] <krytarik> Bouffant: Do ask here too. :P
[20:42] <Bouffant> hello could you help me with something? I can't get my sound working but the speaker test works fine
[20:43] <SimonNL> pfifo: could it be that addmode line is incorrect remove _60.00
[20:50] <MWM> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization  I see nothing about current versions of ubuntu here.  Is this still viable for 16.04 and 17.04?
[20:50] <MWM> havent tried it yet, I just dont want to get stuck in problems that I cant solve :D
[20:50] <nicomachus> MWM: should be. uck is still maintained and updated in 16.04 and 17.04
[20:51] <nicomachus> !info uck xenial
[20:51] <nicomachus> MWM: it could use an update though, you're right... cc: nacc
[20:52] <nacc> heh
[20:52] <MWM> Well looks like Ill give it a shot then.  Trying to make a Windows XP "clone" for someoen who is on the fence about using anything besides Windows.  FIgured it would be less painful with a little work to make it look more familiar
[20:53] <MWM> I was just going to point them at Zorin but it might be fun this way also :D
[20:54] <nicomachus> MWM: not a bad idea... but Mint might be closer to XP than Ubuntu, at least as far as the DE goes
[20:56] <nacc> tbh, if your friend is that sensitive to the UI, they're not going to like that the apps themselves are different, MWM
[20:56] <nacc> seems like a waste of time :)
[20:57] <nicomachus> ah, an attempted conversion is never a waste of time!
[20:58] <nacc> heh
[20:59] <MWM> They just want to stay where it is comfortable (and I dont blame them honestly).  Most of their games *should* with Wine though.  "Friends dont let frieds Windows" ya know ?
[21:00] <MWM> I wouldnt put any effort into it at all except for Win10 and all its glory.  No one should be stuck with that as their only option
[21:02] <MWM> and I ran across this earlier http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/windows-xp-theme-lubuntu.  Gears turned, hamsters fell from wheels...
[21:03] <MWM> anyway, Ill stop back in if I get stuck then.  Thanks guys :)
[21:12] <sirru5h> Howdy everyone
[21:13] <kostkon> sirru5h, hi
[21:13] <sirru5h> How are you doing kostkon
[21:13] <kostkon> sirru5h, I'm good
[21:14] <sirru5h> That's very good I just had to re-install ubuntu on my netbook
[21:14] <sirru5h> the hd just died out I had to go with an external hd on usb deathly slow, but works
[21:16] <sirru5h> I set the pri=32000 on fstab for the /swap as this machine just has 2 gigs
[21:16] <Bashing-om> sirru5h: An opportunity to upgrade to a SSD ?
[21:17] <sirru5h> Bashing-om, yeah a new HD is cheap enough just I had an external and the netbook I do use that for certain work related stuff
[21:19] <sirru5h> I tried everything I could think of to save the old one but alas no luck; I put it into the freezer sometimes you get a couple of hours so you can pull off files I am just glad that I had backups
[21:19] <sirru5h> of /home
[21:26] <texla> How do I move a file from sda6 ubuntu to da7
[21:26] <texla> sda7
[21:27] <pavlos> texla: both have to be mounted to diff mountpoints, then you can cp (maybe with sudo
[21:28] <texla> pav
[21:28] <texla> pavlos: What about using usb
[21:29] <warri0rr> what do you mean?
[21:29] <pavlos> texla: the usb is probably automounted as sdb1
[21:30] <pavlos> texla: in /media/user/hexnumbers
[21:30] <pavlos> texla: I have /dev/sdb1       15229376  361064  14868312   3% /media/pavlos/BF11-2E8A
[21:30] <texla> warri0rr: If i copy to usb then load on sda7 can i download to file
[21:31] <warri0rr> from the perspective of your system which sees sda6 and sda7, it's only a matter of mounting them and literally dragging if that's what's most comfortable
[21:31] <warri0rr> like pavlos said before
[21:32] <pavlos> texla: mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/six
[21:32] <Bouffant> hello could you help me with something? I can't get my sound working but the speaker test works fine
[21:32] <pavlos> texla: mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sev
[21:32] <pavlos> texla: cp /mnt/six/myfile /mnt/sev
[21:32] <pavlos> you may need sudo
[21:33] <cruncher> hi
[21:33] <warri0rr> strange that automount isn't automatically mounting devices
[21:33] <cruncher> i have here trouble on 2 xubuntu stations with autoremoval of old kernels
[21:34] <sirru5h> true warri0rr usually in ubuntu automount works right away esp on a usb
[21:34] <texla> pavlos: Thanks for the help and info
[21:34] <pavlos> texla: yw
[21:35] <Bashing-om> !details | cruncher
[21:35] <cruncher> they dont get removed, even after using "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies "true";"
[21:35] <pavlos> cruncher: sudo apt-get autoremove does not work?
[21:36] <cruncher> i might add that i would like them to be autoremoved
[21:36] <cruncher> not manually
[21:36] <cruncher> of course, in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels all kernels are listed... isnt there a way to remove the not-in-use kernels?
[21:36] <cruncher> they clutter the system of the users, and with time /boot gets full
[21:37] <Bashing-om> cruncher: Have you Edited the autoremove setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades from 'false' to 'true' ?
[21:37] <cruncher> Bashing-om, yes
[21:37] <cruncher> tried "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies "true";", and "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "truee";"
[21:38] <cruncher> i checked the internet, and apparently the Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies should do that, but it doesnt
[21:40] <pavlos> cruncher: are you on 16.04 ?
[21:40] <cruncher> xenial
[21:41] <nacc> cruncher: if it doesn't work when run manually, it's not going to magically work when run automatically
[21:41] <nacc> cruncher: all that flag does is run autoremove in the unattended-upgrade job
[21:41] <cruncher> nacc, yes, it works manually
[21:41] <cruncher> but the users wont remember nor care to do that
[21:41] <nacc> cruncher: oh, i read the above as "not manually" in response to pavlos, as it not working with autoremove
[21:42] <cruncher> so i would like it to be automatically
[21:42] <nacc> cruncher: and did you let unattened-upgrades run after changing the conf file?
[21:42] <nacc> cruncher: it's not immediate or anything
[21:42] <cruncher> no, all works fine, the whole system, except for autoremoval of old kernels
[21:42] <cruncher> nacc, yes, i let it for many days working now
[21:43] <cruncher> the old kernels (2 atm) got accumulated in that time.. so more than a few days
[21:43] <nacc> cruncher: did you check the log ?
[21:43] <nacc> cruncher: /var/log/unattended-upgrades/...
[21:43] <cruncher> yes, i cant see any error nor warning
[21:43] <nacc> cruncher: you should see something like "Packages that are auto removed "
[21:44] <pavlos> cruncher: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, if you want to remove only new unused dependencies automatically after unattended upgrades. Due to this design, it is important that you let unattended-upgrades handle automatic installing of security updates. Otherwise kernels do accumulate, and you may have to do some manual removing of kernels.
[21:44] <pavlos> cruncher: from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[21:44] <cruncher> pavlos, yes, i read that, afaik it handles sec updates
[21:44] <nacc> cruncher: and i assume typo above "truee"?
[21:45] <cruncher> sure, it is "true"
[21:45] <nacc> cruncher: i only have "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true"; in my conf file and it works fine here
[21:45] <cruncher> nacc, hmm.. i tried that at the beginning, then i saw there is the newer option "new unused"
[21:45] <cruncher> i actually tried both
[21:45] <nacc> cruncher: but i'm also on 17.10, so maybe it's fixed in unattended-upgrades
[21:46] <nacc> cruncher: i believe you can run unattended-upgrade with -d --dry-run to see what it thinks it should do
[21:46] <cruncher> but now that nacc mentioned to look for "auto remove", i see the message "run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal 4.4.0-89-generic /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-89-generic" (didnt see it before as i was looking for errors/warnings)
[21:47] <cruncher> but still, the file is still there / wasnt removed
[21:48] <cruncher> and basically i dont care about unused packages (to be apt-get autoremove)... just the kernels should be gone
[21:48] <cruncher> (if that info matters)
[21:48] <nacc> cruncher: you can run that script by hand and see what it tried to do
[21:50] <cruncher> nacc, ok, i see that the script keeps the latest + 2nd latest, so xxx.89 wont be removed
[21:50] <nacc> cruncher: right
[21:51] <Oluranti> while trying to run "apt-get autoremove" is keep getting this error: E: Archives directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing. - Acquire (2: No such file or directory)
[21:51] <Skif> I have a new Dell XPS15; I want to install 17.04 alongside Win10 Pro. When I get to the Installation Type step, it says, "This computer currently has Windows Boot Manager on it. What would you like to do?" I can Erase disk and install Ubuntu (not desired), or Something Else. When I choose Something Else, I'm presented with a partition list. I cannot resize any partition on that list. How can I resize the ~1TB windows partition to al
[21:51] <Skif> me to dual-boot?
[21:51] <Oluranti> i have look all over google but the recommended commands still kept giving error: mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/var/cache/apt/archives’: File exists
[21:52] <cruncher> but 87+83 are still there, even after calling that script with those versions
[21:52] <cruncher> so basically, /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal does nto remove the 3rd+4th kernel, even after being called specifically
[21:54] <cruncher> before i debug the script, is there anything i could check further on why it isnt being removed?
[21:54] <cruncher> ok, its not a big one anyway :D
[21:55] <cruncher> nacc, in your /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove-kernels, are the older (like 3rd+4th oldest) kernels listed not to be autoremoved?
[21:57] <cruncher> because in there, under APT::NeverAutoRemove are the latest 3 listed... so it would keep 3 kernels at a time. Is that a bug maybe?
[21:59] <cruncher> seems its this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/1675079
[22:01] <pavlos> Skif: maybe you can shrink the disk (c:\) from windows to make some room and then install ubuntu
[22:02] <Skif> pavlos: trying, thanks.
[22:03] <Skif> sigh, windows won't let me resize < 50% of the drive
[22:03] <Skif> oh well, better than 0%
[22:05] <pavlos> Skif: you could boot off a live usb, start gparted and resize the ntfs partition (recommend to defrag first
[22:10] <cruncher> so best to install 17.04 instead of LTS 16.04?
[22:12] <Skif> pavlos: that appears to have done the trick; thank you.
[22:13] <Skif> It's been a few years since I ran Ubuntu as a daily driver, and apparently this is one of the things that changed. :)
[22:19] <energizer> How do i install a package from launchpad? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jags/4.3.0-1
[22:22] <energizer> Or, how can i install a package from packages.debian.org https://packages.debian.org/source/unstable/jags
[22:31] <pavlos> Skif: yw
[22:42] <aguitel> how install minimal ubuntu-desktop ?
[22:42] <aguitel> fist i boot with mini.iso
[23:03] <acresearch> people, anyone can assist me to make a quick VPN connection to the UK through ubuntu? no speed needed just access to a website
[23:03] <Bashing-om> aguitel: Generally, something like: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal .
[23:12] <royal_screwup21> acresearch: look up for a VPN extension for the browser you're using
[23:12] <acresearch> royal_screwup21: hmmmm ok
[23:14] <aguitel> Bashing-om: ok
[23:15] <Bashing-om> aguitel: If you do not know, building from a minimal install has a steep learning curve .
[23:20] <aguitel> Bashing-om: what means "steep learning curve"
[23:21] <oerheks> it will take a lifetime to explore it all
[23:22] <nacc> cruncher: sorry, was afk, let me look
[23:22] <cruncher> nacc, wanted to close the channel in this second when you wrote :)
[23:22] <cruncher> i think i managed already
[23:22] <nacc> cruncher: i can read back the scrollback
[23:23] <cruncher> will wait until tomorrow and see if they are autoremoved
[23:24] <cruncher> nacc and pavlos, thank you so far
[23:24] <Bashing-om> aguitel: Well, you install minimal. all you have to start with is a booting kernel and a wired internet connection . Now you have to figure out what all "you" want on the system . Package management, system administration ( find out the hard way that anacron is not installed ) script configuration .. You will make it your system and you will do it your way . Not an easy task .
[23:26] <aguitel> Bashing-om: i know
[23:27] <Bashing-om> aguitel: But ^^ well worth the effort - IMHO .
[23:28] <aguitel> thanks Bashing-om
[23:33] <nicolas17> W: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en: Hash Sum mismatch
[23:33] <nicolas17> known issue?
[23:34] <Bashing-om> nicolas17: change you mirror and see if it is not a temporary hitch with the de mirror .
[23:35]  * eelstrebor wishes they would get this amdgpu problem fixed soon - looks like it's been a year and the driver still doesn't work properly
[23:36] <nicolas17> probably is
[23:36] <nicolas17> hashes in http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/InRelease and in http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/universe/i18n/Index don't match
[23:40] <Bashing-om> nicolas17: Can waut for the de mirror to resync or switch to another .
[23:43] <oerheks> could happen when the mirror just got updated indeed
[23:44] <oerheks> maybe FF 55 ..
[23:44]  * oerheks waitin'
[23:52] <oerheks> thank you for flying #freenode