[19:12] <CanadianPirate> yes.
[19:12] <CanadianPirate> I used tab complete xD
[19:13] <ubuntu222> how would i do it then?
[19:13] <kc_> #spoj
[19:13] <messa4> Can you buy apps from that Unity-whatever software centre?
[19:13] <CanadianPirate> There will be a software updater, and it will walk you through the process
[19:13] <CanadianPirate> messa4, yep
[19:13] <CanadianPirate> You can actually pay for stuff if you want
[19:14] <messa4> CanadianPirate: can u give me some examle of such ap? [never used any app becasue i dont have smartphone ettc.]
[19:14] <messa4> example*
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu222, #ubuntu+1 is the 13.04 channel.
[19:14] <messa4> ap is just .deb package or its something specialized?
[19:14] <CanadianPirate> Bastion is a game that they sell on the software centre
[19:16] <messa4> Can someone give me some example of "APP" from Unity Software Shop. (name). ANd explain me - is it just normal .deb package or what makes it "app"? [or its just naming ]
[19:17] <Pici> messa4: there is no such thing as an 'app'. they're all just normal packages.
[19:18] <messa4> Pici: so "APPS" in Unity stores that u pay for - are just commercial software for linux? [in .deb] ?
[19:18] <Pici> messa4: yes
[19:18] <messa4> Pici: can u give me example of such program?
[19:18] <Pici> messa4: no. I don't have an Ubuntu desktop install here.
[19:19] <jpds> messa4: World of Goo.
[19:20] <messa4> jpds: this application is NORMAL linux app? (glibc etc.) not some magic JAVA on android/whatever virtual thing?
[19:22] <messa4> jpds: this application is NORMAL linux app? (glibc etc.) not some magic JAVA on android/whatever virtual thing?
[19:23] <jpds> messa4: I believe so.
[19:23] <Iruian> Trying out 13.04 and for some reason executables on the desktop will only open in the text editor? I have them set as allowing them to execute as a program, but I don't get the old run in terminal / display / run options anymore?
[19:24] <anti__> hi guyz i have a problem with l0ading xubuntuim stuck on boot screen and wont load any more can someone help paste.ubuntu.com/5710893
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 > anti__
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> anti__, sorry
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 > Iruian
[19:25] <anti__> sorry im now c0nfused
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> anti__, I sent the message to meaning t for another nick.
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> it*
[19:26] <anti__> okay ive seen your message
[19:27] <anti__> im looking for some help
[19:27] <nomo> hello, i can no longer open google-chrome on ubuntu 12.04. can anyone help me troubleshoot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711264/
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> anti__, Did you run the basic fix in the bootrepair?
[19:30] <anti__> yes i sent the paste bin
[19:31] <anti__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5710893
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> anti__, Did you reboot to see if the basic repair fixed it the script looks as if you should be booting.
[19:31] <sda> Hi all, on phone and tablet we don't have always out the top panel, can I hide\autohide\intellihide the top panel too in ubuntu desktop?
[19:31] <jacklk> o
[19:32] <anti__> im not i get to booting screen then does not go any more
[19:32] <jacklk> o
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> anti__, Have you modified grub?
[19:32] <anti__> no
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> anti__, So can you describe in detail what happens, this is important, there are multiple possibilities here.
[19:33] <trism> nomo: what is: ls -l /bin/readlink; ?
[19:35] <djathoris> I would like to install from usb stick on a machine which can not boot from it's usb. Is there any sort of boot manager I could put on a floppy disk which could transfer booting to a non-bios-controlled device?
[19:35] <anti__> okay i get to the booting screen and does notbload but if i press esc i get text moving down the screen but then stops on sened disabled : edit /ect/defaul/sened
[19:36] <nomo> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711284/ and thanks
[19:36] <betrayd> djathoris: i think plop has a floppy image
[19:36] <djathoris> plop? I'll make note of that. thanks
[19:37] <trism> nomo: odd, that looks fine
[19:37] <thewiredbear> hello people!
[19:37] <anti__> the line before says stopping system v initialisation compatibility
[19:37] <betrayd> djathoris: i think they also have a flavor of linus, if your search brings you there you're getting warmer
[19:37] <betrayd> linux*
[19:37] <dazsim> whats the easiest way to rebuild grub after moving a couple of hard drives from one machine to another
[19:38] <mansoor> I have an Ubuntu 12.10 and its not detecting my "Logitech Performance Mouse MX" any help?  I tried following http://tycho.ws/blog/2011/12/logitech-unifying-receiver  but my /sys/class/hidraw/  directory is empty
[19:38] <nomo> trism, any ideas of what to do next?
[19:38] <thewiredbear> grub problems are piece of cake with boot-repair
[19:39] <minas> i am copying a directory with 98,147 file (small ones) from a directory into another. Both are located on my hard drive. The transfer speed is 1.1MB/s. Why is it so slow? Or is this reasonable?
[19:39] <mansoor> dmesg | grep Logitech gives me http://pastebin.com/yyKM375B
[19:39] <thewiredbear> just plug in a live USB/CD. install boot-repair in it and it helps everything
[19:39] <dazsim> ah sweet
[19:39] <dazsim> i'm on a mint live cd at moment
[19:39] <djathoris> minas, not very reasonable
[19:39] <thewiredbear> hmm.......even that is fine
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> anti__, I am seeing multiple fixes for saned disabled, one is install the gnome shell, another is to hit ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty command line then login the hit ctrl-alt F7 for the desktop.
[19:40] <thewiredbear> the boot-repair is the main thing
[19:40] <thewiredbear> wait lemme fetch you a link!
[19:40] <djathoris> minas, what file system are you using?
[19:40] <nomo> trism,  reinstalled, purged...what could removing kubuntu-desktop have done?
[19:40] <dazsim> i'm checking "software" manager now :P
[19:40] <minas> ext4 I think (the default for ubuntu 13.04)
[19:41] <anti__> okay how would i do this
[19:41] <thewiredbear> @daszim https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:41] <minas> djathoris, yes, ext4
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> anti__, here is the google search. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=&bih=&q=ubuntu+saned+disabled&gbv=1&nfpr=&spell=1&sa=X&ei=0lZsUdTpKaaUiAKGjYG4CQ&ved=0CB4QvwU
[19:41] <betrayd> nomo: took out the only desktop you had?
[19:41] <djathoris> minas, ext4 isn't that slow. Is every disk i/o task so slow?
[19:41] <dazsim> i'm looking at it now thewiredbear
[19:41] <trism> nomo: honestly I'm not sure, my first thought was you got the permissons on readlink messed up somehow, but that's not the case. If you open a terminal, does say: readlink -f /usr/bin/pager; work?
[19:41] <thewiredbear> @daszim http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[19:42] <minas> djathoris, from what I remember, yes (when transfering a lot of small files). now it's at 888 KB/s
[19:42] <thewiredbear> @daszim http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/how-to-repair-grub2-when-ubuntu-wont-boot/
[19:42] <wilee-nilee> anti__, I described two fixes, asking how do I do this is not a specific question, one of the solutions I explan.
[19:42] <minas> djathoris, maybe something is wrong?
[19:43] <nomo> betrayd, no. sorry. typo. i purged and reinstalled google-chrome. i have unity desktop. just to be safe i did a reinstall after removing kubuntu-desktop.
[19:43] <djathoris> minas, yes something is wrong. what kind of hard drive do you have?
[19:43] <dazsim> eww mint has an ugly terminal
[19:43] <dazsim> white with neon green text >.<
[19:43] <mansoor> Why does my system not have a /sys/class/hidraw/hidraw0/device/uevent file? any help please?
[19:43] <betrayd> nomo: sounds good
[19:44] <anti__> idk where i do ctrl - alt F1
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, Is the correct HD being read first, I assume you have the working ones moved.
[19:44] <minas> djathoris, what do you mean? I know it spins at 5400 RPM
[19:44] <nomo> trism, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711318/
[19:44] <failure> mansoor: lsusb
[19:44] <estudio> hi
[19:45] <dazsim> no idea, i got the grub repair come up and i tried launching the correct operating system manually with no joy
[19:45] <trism> nomo: yep working fine
[19:45] <djathoris> minas, 5400rpm would be one of the slower drives. Is it ide(pata) or sata or usb?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, run the bootinfo summary and post the url.
[19:45] <estudio> anybody knows haw i can install wineasio whit wine 1.4.1
[19:45] <mansoor> failure, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xys91eqF
[19:45] <dazsim> i appear to have grub on the wrong drive for sure
[19:45] <estudio> how
[19:45] <thewiredbear> @dazsim what was the problem
[19:45] <minas> djathoris, sata probably (it's a toshiba laptop (satellite L655))
[19:45] <dazsim> my pc died
[19:45] <dazsim> so i move the drives over to another machine
[19:46] <thewiredbear> try a live USB daz
[19:46] <dazsim> and they dont map the same(obviously)
[19:46] <thewiredbear> try a live USB
[19:46] <dazsim> i'm on mint live
[19:46] <thewiredbear> it might help
[19:46] <milan> hey i got a problem with graphics can anyone help i am gonig crazy
[19:46] <dazsim> this should work if i can get it to install
[19:46] <nomo> trism, ok, so what next? any other ideas.
[19:46] <thewiredbear> what did you do with the software?
[19:47] <dazsim> just installing it now
[19:47] <estudio> who? me?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, The bootinfo summary will take out the guessing run it and post the url. ;)
[19:47] <thewiredbear> this software will help
[19:47] <thewiredbear> just check the links i gave you before hand
[19:48] <failure> mansoor: do you have a /dev/hidraw0 ?
[19:48] <anti__> that just gives me a blck screen
[19:48] <mansoor> failure, no, i cat-ed that too nothing there
[19:48] <milan> ill write it anyway , i got ati radeon 6570 and it just wont work with linux fedora,kubuntu or ubuntu , i managed to make it work on ubuntu ,
[19:48] <djathoris> minas, doesn't look like it should be so slow. might be a bug in 13.04's sata controller driver
[19:48] <failure> mansoor: do you have udev installed?
[19:49] <anti__> have i not install xubuntu properly
[19:49] <mansoor> failure, no idea
[19:49] <mansoor> let mesee
[19:49] <dazsim> running bootinfo ^^
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> cool
[19:49] <failure> mansoor: dpkg --list udev
[19:49] <dazsim> http://paste2.org/XbOWLDDf
[19:49] <trism> nomo: thinking but I'm not really sure what could be broken
[19:49] <mansoor> apt-get says its already installed
[19:49] <mansoor> failure, ^^
[19:49] <minas> djathoris, i found something on ask ubuntu. one answer says that if I am syncing something, that might be the cause. I am using Ubuntu One and I am pretty sure it is uploading those file because I limited its upload speed. could this be it?
[19:50] <dazsim> the 60gb drive is the one i want to boot
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, Put the sda drive first to be read in the bios.
[19:50] <milan> radeon hd 6570 )
[19:50] <milan> I am having a problem with ubuntu ,fedora, kubuntu. what ever i install it wont work propertly. i boot live USB fedora 18 or kubuntu 13.04 or 12.10 and it boots up normaly, and it works preaty well, but after installation im having splitscreen freeze and no panel or icons or anything shows up just freeze, but i can start in recovery mod with low graphic. and with ubuntu 12.10 it works after installation , but after installing updates it gets fucked up again,
[19:50] <milan> same problem (iam going crazy) now i installed beta version of amd catalys 13.3 and ubuntu 12.10 works peraty normal even after installing updates but still i cant play no game over wine ,(i can but graphics SUCKS) i found somwhere wine recognize GPU like ati 3200 with 136 mgb ram something like that. doing glxgears (everything disabled in amd catalyst) i get 1500 FPS around 7500 FP5S
[19:50] <FloodBot1> milan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:50] <dazsim> it is
[19:50] <nomo> trism, could i be missing dependencies? i guess apt-get would tell me. but is it possible? i hate the idea of having to reinstall my system over this.
[19:51] <mansoor> failure, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aiJq9VGa
[19:51] <djathoris> minas, that sounds logical, if you are syncing every file with another machine online, the copies will take place at slower than the speed of your net connection
[19:51] <minas> djathoris, ok, i will try stopping it. thanks a lot
[19:51] <failure> mansoor: ok
[19:51] <dazsim> i'm thinking i should tell it to repair sda's grub
[19:52] <failure> mansoor: what modules do you have loaded? lsmod
[19:52] <mansoor> failure, honestly i dont know
[19:52] <thewiredbear> wait dazsim
[19:52] <thewiredbear> lemme see
[19:52] <failure> mansoor: run lsmod
[19:52] <mansoor> failure, how do i check?
[19:53] <mansoor> failure, it gives me a whole bunch of text
[19:53] <mansoor> in columns
[19:53] <dazsim> i dont need to boot the 80gb drive although there is an option, i just need to keep the files in /home
[19:53] <failure> mansoor: copy paste time to pastebin
[19:53] <mansoor> ok
[19:53] <failure> time = them
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, Sure, would not hurt, I suppose however I see lvm and raid and ext2 indicators in the sdb drive.
[19:54] <dazsim> yeah its not raid
[19:54] <dazsim> it is however lvm
[19:54] <milan> is anybody gonna help
[19:54] <dazsim> oh does that mean i need to be able to boot to it to get the files out of /home
[19:54] <milan> at all
[19:54] <thewiredbear> run these daz:
[19:54] <thewiredbear> sudo fdisk -l sudo blkid
[19:54] <mansoor> failure, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vxiMz3nE
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, yeah not a true.
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> raid
[19:55] <trism> nomo: it could be many things. Out of curiosity, if you were to create a file test.sh, chmod +x test.sh and run ./test.sh with: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711348/ does it error out like the google-chrome script with Permission Denied?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> thewiredbear, the fstab is correct
[19:55] <trism> nomo: not that I'd have any idea how to fix that if it did
[19:55] <betrayd> milan time to post in forum
[19:55] <milan> ey
[19:55] <failure> mansoor: do you have a mounted sysfs ? run: mount | grep sysfs
[19:55] <milan> i can talk now
[19:56] <milan> ?
[19:56] <milan> and you l ll listen
[19:56] <milan> ?
[19:56] <mansoor> failure,   sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[19:56] <thewiredbear> wilee-nilee what about trying to repair file systems from boot repair?
[19:56] <Fernando> hello
[19:56] <mansoor> i haven't modified anything its a brand new system76 ubuntu laptop
[19:56] <failure> mansoor: seems ok, run: ls -la /sys/class
[19:56] <trism> nomo: your best bet may just be to backup and reinstall (unless somebody else has ideas), since your system seems to be broken in strange and mysterious ways
[19:57] <dazsim> eww
[19:57] <dazsim> i see why it might think its raid wilee-nilee :P
[19:57] <dazsim> /dev/sdb2          501758   156301311    77899777    5  Extended
[19:57] <dazsim> /dev/sdb5          501760   156301311    77899776   8e  Linux LVM
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> thewiredbear, The basic repair will probably fix it, it just may need grub reloaded to the mbr, yeah.
[19:57] <dazsim> thats... just... stupid
[19:58] <nomo> trism, creating the script...hold a sec
[19:58] <mansoor> failure, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7SzAWHGL
[19:58] <thewiredbear> hmm.....the basic repair might just cast the right spells
[19:58] <bibach> I'm running a fairly vanilla install of Ubuntu 12.04 as a VM in VirtualBox 4.2.6 on OS X 10.8.  Recently, I've had it happen that the desktop suddenly scales down to about half of it's proper size, centered in the display.  It appears to happen when I use the Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut to launch a terminal window, but not every time.  The launcher and panel are still their proper size and location.
[19:58] <failure> mansoor: ls -la /sys/class/hidraw
[19:58] <thewiredbear> dazsim , try the basic repair.....it might work and if not, it definitely won't cause any harm
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> dazsim, I'm not sure I suspect it has to do with lvm, I know nothing about raid or lvm though.
[19:58] <nomo> trism, do you mean i create a script opening the link with google-chrome or something else?
[19:58] <mansoor> total 0
[19:59] <mansoor> just . and ..
[19:59] <dazsim> lvm sounded like a good idea when i said yes to it >.<
[19:59] <failure> mansoor: ok, hmm
[19:59] <dazsim> but its a bit too bleeding edge for my liking
[19:59] <thewiredbear> your choice dazsim
[19:59] <dazsim> yeah
[19:59] <trism> nomo: no the script was in the pastebin, it is basically the first command in the google-chrome script except with an echo instead of storing it in an env var
[19:59] <dazsim> i'll back the files up
[19:59] <thewiredbear> and people stop using VMs, they are just good for a tea-time experiment
[19:59] <dazsim> and then wipe it
[20:00] <betrayd> overhyped
[20:00] <thewiredbear> hmm @dazsim
[20:00] <thewiredbear> that solves everything
[20:00] <nomo> trism, ok
[20:00] <dazsim> for that drive sure :>
[20:01] <thewiredbear> but a long, very long process
[20:01] <failure> mansoor: try plug a usb keyboard into the computer/laptop
[20:01] <mansoor> ok
[20:01] <mansoor> let me try to find one
[20:01] <failure> mansoor: what i can see you dont have any hid devices
[20:01] <milan> is amd ati 6570 compatibile with ubuntu 12.10 13.04 fedora 18
[20:01] <failure> mansoor: maybe you have a ps2 keyboard ?
[20:01] <thewiredbear> gotta go sexy people!
[20:01] <failure> mansoor: is it a laptop ?
[20:02] <thewiredbear> milan take ubuntu
[20:02] <milan> i got ubuntu
[20:02] <thewiredbear> the compatibility is better than fedora and will keep getting better in fedora
[20:02] <milan> but it works only with
[20:02] <milan> amd catalys 13.3 beta
[20:02] <thewiredbear> because these drivers work only you use propritory and fedora is against it
[20:03] <adamk> milan: Is this a laptop with a hybrid GPU?
[20:03] <milan> and on glxgears i get around 1500 frames per s
[20:03] <milan> no it s desktop
[20:03] <thewiredbear> still, fedora's compatibility are way less
[20:03] <nomo> trism
[20:03] <thewiredbear> and what are your requirements milan?
[20:03] <mansoor> failure, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 0 Apr 15 14:03 hidraw0 -> ../../devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.0/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/0003:413C:2107.0007/hidraw/hidraw0
[20:03] <nomo> trism, nothing happened.
[20:04] <mansoor> failure, thats when  the usb keyboard is plugged in
[20:04] <failure> mansoor: now you have a HID :)
[20:04] <milan> on my laptop i got 50time wors gpu and i get 3000 fps
[20:04] <adamk> milan: Then that GPU should work in 12.10 with the catalyst drivers packaged by/for fglrx.
[20:04] <mansoor> failure, lol what does that mean?
[20:04] <failure> mansoor: welcome to the HID club :)
[20:04] <adamk> Do not measure 3D performance with glxgears.
[20:04] <ripper> what does everyone think about the news right now
[20:04] <nomo> trism, i mean no errors, nothing. just a new bash line.
[20:04] <milan> it works in 12.10
[20:04] <trism> nomo: nothing happened is actually weird, it should print out the full path to the script
[20:04] <milan> but  i cant play even flash games
[20:04] <failure> mansoor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_interface_device
[20:04] <mansoor> ohh
[20:05] <mansoor> lol
[20:05] <mansoor> its a laptop
[20:05] <failure> mansoor: :)
[20:05] <mansoor> my keyboard and built in mouse work
[20:05] <mansoor> but my real mouse doesnt :)
[20:05] <mansoor> i hate touchpads
[20:05] <mansoor> and can't work with them
[20:05] <ripper> 2 bombs went off in boston about an hour ago
[20:05] <bigbadben> Hey I keep getting kicked from my network then I was messing with my realteak drivers and I lost xorg, I could not ctrl+alt+f2-f7 I pasted my errors from grep -i /etc/sys/log network manager anyone care to help me out and take a look?
[20:05] <adamk> milan: Do you have the drivers installed now?  If so, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and the output of 'glxinfo'
[20:05] <nomo> trism, it didn't do that. i just line 8 of the google-chrome script and replaced the $0 with the pastebin url. and i chmoded and nothing happened.
[20:05] <failure> mansoor: :) so you have problem configure a external usb mouse ?
[20:06] <mansoor> failure,
[20:06] <mansoor> yes
[20:06] <failure> mansoor: what mouse ?
[20:06] <failure> mansoor: your wife's ? :)
[20:06] <milan> milan@milan:~$ glxinfo
[20:06] <milan> name of display: :0.0
[20:06] <milan> display: :0  screen: 0
[20:06] <milan> direct rendering: Yes
[20:06] <milan> server glx vendor string: ATI
[20:06] <mansoor> logitech performance mx
[20:06] <FloodBot1> milan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <milan> server glx version string: 1.4
[20:07] <mansoor> failure, haha no  its a brand new mouse for my brand new work laptop
[20:07] <trism> nomo: oh then that is okay then, in my pastebin I replaced part of it with echo so you could see the output
[20:07] <failure> mansoor: ok, USB 2.0 ?
[20:07] <guntbert_> ripper: please lets keep to the topic of this channel: ubuntu-support
[20:07] <trism> nomo: if there were no errors it is probably okay, but now I'm sort of out of ideas
[20:07] <mansoor> failure, well it has a wire or you can use it wireless using a usb2 reciever
[20:07] <mansoor> but
[20:07] <mansoor> i think the wire isjust for power
[20:08] <mansoor> to recharge its battery
[20:08] <ripper> guntbert: np just though i would update the channel on the world
[20:08] <mansoor> i think it allways uses the wireless
[20:08] <failure> mansoor: have you plugged your mouse into a USB 1.1 maybe ?
[20:08] <dury> hi there all
[20:08] <andrew> hello, I am on Ubuntu 13.04 - is there a way how to install https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/allegro5 ? Can I add it somehow like PPA, org...? Thank you
[20:08] <guntbert_> !enter | mansoor
[20:08] <mansoor> failure, no, if anything this is a USB3 port
[20:08] <mansoor> but from what i know, they are backwards compatible
[20:08] <failure> mansoor: ok try all the usb ports on the computer and do dmesg | tail -n 10 after every insert
[20:09] <failure> mansoor: and look for it to be reconized
[20:09] <nomo> trism, lol yes sorry. yes it echoed back the path
[20:09] <mansoor> failure, it is being recognized
[20:09] <milan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711391/
[20:09] <failure> mansoor: ok, copy paste to pastebin
[20:09] <failure> mansoor: but still try all ports
[20:09] <mansoor> i think i know what the problem is, i am stuck at doing the solution, let me explain
[20:10] <dazsim> ok i'm going to try a reboot. can someone thank thewiredbear for me, he disconnected
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> !13.04 > andrew
[20:10] <failure> mansoor: sure go ahead!
[20:10] <dury> working fine with  logitech wireless keyboard right now, but when a reboot the system it doesn't set in the language I want
[20:10] <milan> adamk http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711391/

[20:10] <dury> logitech k400
[20:10] <milan> @adamk
[20:10] <andrew> wilee-nilee: k, thanks
[20:10] <milan> how to call someones name in
[20:11] <milan> post
[20:11] <milan> line whatever
[20:11] <guntbert_> milan: just the nick is enough, no need for @ or <>
[20:11] <milan> ok
[20:11] <milan> thanks
[20:11] <mansoor> logitech uses "Unifying device" reciever, where you can have multiple logitech devices witht he same reciever.  i think the unifying recier isn't connecting witht he mouse.  I am following this tutorial:  http://tycho.ws/blog/2011/12/logitech-unifying-receiver and thats where i'm stuck
[20:11] <guntbert_> !tab | milan
[20:11] <mansoor> failure, ^^
[20:12] <milan> thanks alot
[20:12] <failure> mansoor: aha, yeah I did notice that on lsusb :)
[20:12] <dury> mansoor: only have keyboard connected it's k400
[20:13] <python|pi> how do I launch weechat?
[20:13] <milan> can anyone check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711404/
[20:13] <mansoor> dury, woops didnt see your previous message
[20:13] <betrayd> python|pi: weechat-curses
[20:13] <mansoor> dury, do you have a unifying reciever?
[20:13] <python|pi> thanks
[20:13] <mansoor> or is it a normal wireless receiver
[20:14] <failure> mansoor: hmm, but if there no hidraw you device isnt working, so maybe you miss a driver/module
[20:14] <betrayd> milan no need to PM
[20:14] <dury> mansoor: it's just the k400 keybord
[20:14] <milan> PM?
[20:14] <milan> whats that
[20:14] <mansoor> failure, how do i get the driver?
[20:15] <failure> mansoor: but still i recommend trying all ports and ls -la /sys/class/hidraw
[20:15] <mansoor> ok
[20:15] <mansoor> IT WOKRSSSS
[20:15] <mansoor> for no reason!!!
[20:15] <mansoor> HAHA
[20:15] <milan> betrayd,  i dont know what means no needto PM
[20:15] <FloodBot1> mansoor: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:15] <mansoor> now to turn off this stupid touchpad messing up my typing
[20:15] <failure> mansoor: witching port ?
[20:15] <mansoor> same port
[20:15] <dury> failure: how do I solve my problem?
[20:16] <failure> mansoor: ok, maybe the insert of your keyboard did something
[20:16] <ppires> #ubuntu-touch
[20:16] <mansoor> thank you a whole bunch failure
[20:16] <failure> mansoor: load some module or so
[20:16] <mansoor> maybe
[20:16] <guntbert_> milan: please keep your questions and responses in the channel, don't try to talk to somebody "in private"
[20:16] <failure> mansoor: try reboot without keyboard, and plugin the reciever and see if its not working
[20:16] <mansoor> ok
[20:16] <failure> mansoor: then plugin the keyboard
[20:16] <mansoor> i shall do that
[20:17] <failure> mansoor: and check if it works
[20:17] <nomo> trism, ahhh, could it be because i linked pepper to chromium? there was something webupd8 a few months ago about how you can use google chromes flash player in chromium? could i have messed up permissions with that?
[20:17] <milan> ok
[20:17] <dury> it's logitech k400 keyboard, failure
[20:17] <failure> dury: im not a support bot <tm>
[20:18] <dury> failure: I know sorry if I disturb you, to be honest
[20:18] <trism> nomo: no idea, the error is strange
[20:19] <failure> dury: its ok! but now im AFK
[20:19] <guntbert_> dury: nobody in here is "disturbed" by problems and questions, just keep in mind that we do give support as volunteers :-)
[20:19] <adamk> milan: Your driver is installed and setup properly.
[20:20] <dury> failure: would you please assist me when you can?
[20:20] <nomo> trism, thanks. i am comeing to the conclusion that removing kubuntu-desktop broke my system. pita.
[20:20] <milan> i know it is but it just doesnot work how it suposed to work
[20:20] <milan> i cant play flashgame
[20:20] <failure> dury: try tell your problem to the public and maybe some soul might help you! :)
[20:21] <dury> al right
[20:21] <adamk> I tend to blame flash for the suckiness of flash games.
[20:21] <guntbert_> dury: don't rely on 1:1 support talks here
[20:21] <milan> ok but i cant play even in wine anything
[20:21] <milan> wine cant recognize my gp driver
[20:22] <adamk> Run the games from a terminal, and see what errors they give.
[20:22] <milan> and it sets me up with some ati 3200 with 136 Mgb of ram
[20:22] <milan> and i cant play anything
[20:22] <failure> milan: wine isnt a emulator, its your kernel that speaks with your Graphic card :)
[20:22] <failure> wine relay on x and x on the kernel
[20:23] <milan> yeah , ok i kinda knew that
[20:23] <milan> but
[20:23] <dury> all right here it's the problem : logitech k400 keyboard I want to setup in spanish mode
[20:23] <milan> what  to do
[20:23] <adamk> milan: Again, run one of these games from an xterm and see what messages you get.
[20:23] <guntbert_> !enter | milan
[20:23] <milan> if i install any other driver and reboot it will freez and never unfreez
[20:24] <milan> sorry
[20:24] <failure> milan: run: glxinfo and paste it not here :P but eg on pastebin or so
[20:24] <milan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711404/
[20:24] <dury> when I reboot the system go to US or UK ..... well in english
[20:25] <efes> Hello :) I can't find a cute one desktop effect. I'd like to ask you how does this effect is called. It runs when I toggle windows with alt+tab, then all my windows looks as if they are posters on very big cylinder rotating / toggling in front of me. Any ideas? :)
[20:25] <dury> I will solve tomorrow I have to go
[20:25] <adamk> failure: He already did.
[20:25] <failure> milan: cat your Xorg logfile and put it in pastebin :)
[20:25] <failure> milan:
[20:25] <adamk> His drivers are fine.
[20:25] <milan> i installed kubuntu and on live cd boot it works perfect but when i install and reboot it stucks  in login screen ore something like that
[20:25] <failure> milan: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:25] <dury> not really,
[20:26] <failure> adamk: what i can tell from that, is that he dosnt have a framebuffer :P
[20:26] <dury> have to go.... children around
[20:26] <dury> come back tomorrow
[20:26] <guntbert_> dury: please tell your problem in one line if possible else it will be spread all over a page and therefor difficult to read (one line is everything you type before pressing <enter>)
[20:27] <dury> I will guntbert_
[20:27] <dury> good night
[20:27] <milan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711443/
[20:27] <dury> need to go thanks for suggestions
[20:28] <dury> take care all
[20:28] <dury> byeeee
[20:28] <Bustacap> Can someone help me get my sound working :/
[20:29] <failure> milan: i have never owned a ATI/AMD Graphic Card, but from random info, they say drop fglrx and run native support in Xorg ive seen a guide on ubuntu wiki let me find it
[20:30] <milan> is it possible that my graphic card is not suported even they sey it is
[20:30] <failure> milan: ok maybe im wrong about that last statement, but have a read here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:31] <failure> milan: look at: "4. Enabling Video Hardware Acceleration"
[20:31] <celso> people, is it bad that i use ubuntu but with a older version of the kernel? is it very problematic?
[20:31] <milan> thanks
[20:31] <adamk> milan: Your GPU is definitely supported by the proprietary drivers. For the last time, if you want to figure out why games are not working in wine, run them from a terminal and see whatoutput you get.
[20:31] <celso> because i think there is a bug that afects me on the kernel.
[20:32] <balleyne> I'm trying to upgrade a 10.04 desktop, but I keep getting a 'Failed to fetch' error when attempting... is there something special I need to do, like go from LTS to LTS, or use a specific mirror for out of date intermediate releases?
[20:32] <efes> Hello :) I can't find a cute one desktop effect. I'd like to ask you how does this effect is called. It runs when I toggle windows with alt+tab, then all my windows looks as if they are posters on very big cylinder rotating / toggling in front of me. Any ideas? :)
[20:33] <min|dvir|us> Is there any way to make JACK output at the same time as other programs?
[20:33] <breznkoenig> !server
[20:33] <breznkoenig> !server
[20:34] <failure> min|dvir|us: can JACK talk to your pulse daemon maybe ?
[20:34] <guntbert> !askthebot | breznkoenig
[20:34] <tgm4883> !eol | balleyne
[20:34] <tgm4883> efes, that is probably compiz cube
[20:35] <breznkoenig> guntbert: k, thx
[20:35] <celso> people, is it bad that i use ubuntu but with a older version of the kernel? is it very problematic?
[20:35] <balleyne> tgm4883, thanks!
[20:36] <milan> adamk, i done this , typing sudo vainfo i get same results as i supposed to , but in glxgears i got 59 frames in 1 secund
[20:37] <milan> that is with enabled tear
[20:42] <failure> milan: Running synchronized to the vertical refresh.  The framerate should be approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate. EG: around 60 FPS
[20:43] <milan> ok but why then i cant do anything else
[20:43] <failure> milan: what are you trying to run in wine ?
[20:43] <milan> truckmania
[20:44] <failure> milan: what is that ? a flash game?
[20:44] <milan> and ubuntu is acting wird
[20:44] <dbug71> any xen gurus in here?
[20:44] <milan> no it is nice game  perfect graphics
[20:45] <failure> milan: url to the creator ?
[20:45] <milan> simulation of some kind of formula
[20:45] <milan> nvidia made this game
[20:45] <milan> http://trackmaniaforever.com/
[20:46] <dbug71> I am creating a Vm of Ubunto 12.04 server on xen 4.1 hypervisor and it installs on the LV fine untill I get to Install Grub and it fails any ideas?
[20:46] <failure> milan: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=7064
[20:46] <milan> i can run it
[20:47] <milan> and it works in wine but the graphics are nasty
[20:47] <milan> i mean bad
[20:47] <betrayd> !details > dbug71
[20:47] <failure> milan: cant you run it from steam client native linux client ?
[20:48] <milan> and now in chat sometimes when new line pops up  it is like aparted
[20:48] <milan> for couple of secunds
[20:48] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem that one of my partitions somehow gets remounted read-only for some unknown reason and at random times. I have used dmesg and the last two lines it showed were: [178785.743396] REISERFS error (device sdb3): vs-4080 _reiserfs_free_block: block 109605592: bit already cleared
[20:48] <Mrokii> [178785.743401] REISERFS (device sdb3): Remounting filesystem read-only
[20:48] <failure> milan: ok i have no clue
[20:48] <failure> and im off for the TV
[20:48] <Mrokii> Is there a way to re-mount the sdb3 partition (or drive) without rebooting?
[20:49] <milan> i tried lots of things, but i managed to install and put in work just ubuntu 12.10
[20:49] <failure> Mrokii: you have a damage drive or a corrupt filesystem
[20:49] <milan> 13.04, fedora 18 , kubuntu  they all freeze after installation, on the first boot
[20:49] <me_> hey, any support for displaylink? displaylink.org seems outdated and some links are broken
[20:50] <betrayd> milan they each might have special instructions to boot with an ati card
[20:50] <Mrokii> failure: I suspect it may be a damaged drive, as I had random crashes when I was still using the sdb drive for the system. However, after a reboot, the drive is always mounted properly again. So I'd like to know if there's a way to remount it without a reboot.
[20:50] <failure> me_: ive got redirected to: http://libdlo.freedesktop.org/wiki/
[20:50] <dbug71> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 on HP DL380 with xen hypervisor 4.1 amd 64, I make my .cfg file and have downloaded the ntinstall vmlinuz and inettd files point the .cfg file to it. everything installs fine from xm create untill I get to the point where it wants to install Grub and it fails
[20:51] <me_> failure: yea, the links on that page are not working
[20:51] <bibach> Ubuntu 12.04 running under VirtualBox 4.2.6 on an OS X host.  Recently, my desktop will scale down to 50% of it's normal size, while the launcher and top panel remain as they should be.  It seems to happen when I use the Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut to start a terminal window.  Any ideas on what might cause this?
[20:51] <milan> but linux lite , and linux mint 14 i installed no problems
[20:51] <betrayd> doesnt matter
[20:51] <failure> milan: is the version of wine the some ?
[20:51] <milan> yea
[20:51] <milan> i installed truckmania over play on linux
[20:52] <failure> Mrokii: maybe its ok, until you try to access that damage area
[20:52] <dbug71> I am using the Guide from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen
[20:52] <milan> so play on linux installed automaticly directx and what ever was needed
[20:52] <failure> milan: play on linux isnt the some as wine
[20:52] <betrayd> yeah but its a gamer type distro
[20:52] <Mrokii> failure: It almost seems so. So time to buy another drive I guess... :/
[20:52] <milan> i run that game in play on linux and then pops up wine and i run it from wine
[20:53] <failure> milan: playonlinux is a fork of wine
[20:53] <failure> milan: http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[20:54] <milan> i dont care that much about theese games as much as i want fedora or ubuntu to work propertly
[20:54] <failure> milan: install that
[20:54] <failure> milan: and try again
[20:56] <failure> milan: or a fork of wine its not, it seems more a tool of handling wine
[20:57]  * failure is off for television
[20:59] <milan> still the same
[21:00] <milan> wine gives me message cant find my graphic card peformance
[21:01] <milan> then says quick benchmark will perform that, and after 2 secunds it says that it cant find GC performance and smoehing like ypu will have shitty graphics
[21:05] <Rahail> hi there i am using a program that need to use openssl
[21:05] <Rahail> http://pastebin.com/45mB9n9d
[21:05] <Rahail> can you see if my open ssl is correct
[21:09] <nubby> hey can anyone tell me why flash keeps killing alsa some flash video site work fine others just murder it and when i try to run alsamixer it says it cannot open mixer
[21:13] <nubby> anyone alive
[21:14] <nubby> its unusaly quiet in here
[21:14] <tgm4883> nubby, IDK, flash is crappy to begin with
[21:15] <nubby> well i think its flash
[21:15] <skinofstars> nubby: did you run top?
[21:15] <nubby> to see whats runing yes
[21:16] <nubby> also tried force reloadign alsa
[21:16] <falcom> assume i have a script that shows live updates... the only way for me to keep it open in view via ssh is via byobu/screen. Does this mean THis script must be also run via byobu/screen too?
[21:16] <nubby> im on a lvie usb
[21:18] <skinofstars> falcom: if you ant the script to run, even when you close your ssh session, the screen is probably the most straight forward way to go
[21:18] <falcom> skinofstars: ant* ?
[21:19] <skinofstars> falcom: *want
[21:20] <falcom> skinofstars: ok thanks, good to know
[21:23] <nubby> skinofstars, why you ask abotu top
[21:24] <mgodzilla> hello.  tryin' to dual boot a macbook pro mid 2010 15" - installed refit.
[21:24] <skinofstars> nubby: what's using your cpu would be listed in there. then you can confirm it's flash.
[21:24] <mgodzilla> rebooted.  but i do not see my ubuntu option for install.
[21:25] <mgodzilla> only shows hard disk from boot manager.  what did i miss?
[21:25] <skinofstars> nubby: exactly why flash would be a problem is gonna be down to your machine. it's difficult to troubleshoot closed source stuff like that
[21:26] <nubby> yeah well i not sure if it is flash as soem flash video siotes wortk btu then if i visit one that crashes alsa its abstered
[21:26] <nubby> but no matter what i do i cant get my sodun back untill i restart
[21:26] <nubby> and not sure if it is flash or alsa/firefox bean a btich
[21:26] <skinofstars> nubby: you can restart alsa
[21:27] <nubby> i done a "alsa force-reload" but didnt do crap
[21:27] <ultra_> Hiya all, Just wondering if anyone knows how to fix an issue I am having. I have a laptop which has 2 graphics cards built in. How do I select which one to use?
[21:28] <skinofstars> nubby: have you had the same problem on installed versions?
[21:28] <nubby> ultra_, nvidia or ati
[21:28] <ultra_> nvidia
[21:28] <nubby> you need to follow this guide when i fidn the link 2 seconds
[21:28] <skinofstars> ultra_: nvidia optimus?
[21:28] <ultra_> built in one currently being used is intel but I would like to have the option to use the nvida one
[21:29] <ultra_> yes correct
[21:29] <skinofstars> ulra_: look for bumblebee project
[21:29] <skinofstars> ultra_:^^
[21:29] <ultra_> k :)
[21:29] <husam> hi
[21:30] <skinofstars> ultra_: nvidia have recently released a new driver, but i don't know how good i is yet. i believe it just uses the nvi
[21:31] <skinofstars> ...card all the time.
[21:31] <husam> hi every one
[21:31] <ultra_> ah right
[21:31] <husam>  this is my first day here
[21:31] <ultra_> no way of having a option to switch when needed ?
[21:31] <vlt> !ask | husam
[21:31] <husam> im looking for help
[21:31] <husam> well some times my ubuntu server dosent boot
[21:32] <skinofstars> damn, why can't i change the size of the dialog input box in smuxi?!
[21:32] <husam> i should press enter and thats should not happen
[21:32] <vlt> !enter | husam
[21:32] <husam> yes you know when grup shows up
[21:33] <husam> i have to connect the keyboard to the server and press enter the the os boot
[21:33] <nomo> trism, are you still here?
[21:33] <nomo> trism, i have a sense what's wrong with google-chrome
[21:33] <betrayd> set a default husam then unplug the keyboard when it works
[21:34] <husam> the problem not with the bios
[21:34] <husam> the problem with os its self
[21:34] <betrayd> i didnt say it was bios
[21:34] <husam> i think there is a problem with grup
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> !who
[21:35] <fidel> husam: you are most likely speaking about *grub* not grup ;)
[21:35] <husam> ubottu | ok , as i told you its first time here
[21:36] <husam> fidel: nice
[21:37] <husam> so till know now one has give me good way to go on with grub
[21:37] <nomo> trism, betrayd, google chrome wouldnt open because of apparmor. i turned apparmor off and then i could open google chrome. i know nothing about apparmor could someone help me reconfigure it so i can have it active and use google-chrome simulataneously?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> husam, Have you run update-grub in the server or modified /etc/default/grub ?
[21:39] <betrayd> husam?
[21:39] <husam> wilee-nilee: no that happen after a clean installtion
[21:39] <husam> yes  betrayd:
[21:40] <betrayd> those are your options husam
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> husam, Try running update-grub or sudo update-grub if you are not root
[21:41] <husam> wilee-nilee many thanks for this notes
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> husam, Is this just one HD and one OS?
[21:41] <husam> wilee-nilee: yes
[21:41] <husam> wilee-nilee:its standalone server
[21:42] <zbethel> Does anyone know why the _netdev option is ignored in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[21:43] <zbethel> Trying to mount iscsi volumes at boot time
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> husam, Cool, grub can be purged and reloaded if needed as well, that would be my default, however a update may fix this.
[21:44] <husam> wilee-nilee:thanks again wish you a good day
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> no problem husam
[21:45] <husam>  wilee-nilee: i will check that in my install servers and will let you know  regards ,
[21:45] <tworkin> how do i test for which release of ubuntu i'm on?
[21:45] <bekks> tworkin: lsb_release -a
[21:46] <tworkin> gracias.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> zbethel, This might be relevant, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mountall/+bug/1103047
[21:48] <Newber> How do I set the x and minimize to the other side? (right side)
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> !details > Newber
[21:50] <Newber> !details
[21:53] <Newber> Im running ubuntu version 12.10, and my problem is that I would like the "minimize and X" icons to be on the right.
[21:55] <trism> nomo: did you add your own google-chrome apparmor profile? I don't seem to have one here by default (might check /etc/apparmor.d/ to see if one exists, and either remove it or figure out how to configure it correctly)
[21:56] <zymaster> Hey, I am having a problem with my audio in Ubuntu 12.10 running on an Alienwawre M14x. It's just not playing at all, I was wondering if anyone could walk me through fixing it. Thanks
[21:58] <nomo> trism, as far as i know i didn't. i wil check the file path. i know nothing about apparmor at all.
[21:59] <G0di> can you hear me i cant hear you
[21:59] <nomo> trism, i dont have one for chrome. i have one for chromium though. do you know of any tutorials that i can check on apparmor. the ones ive seen assume you are a sec wizard.
[21:59] <bekks> G0di: We cant hear you, but we can read you.
[22:00] <G0di> ok
[22:00] <nomo> trism, if apparmor is off you cant update of download packages.
[22:00] <bekks> nomo: Thats not true.
[22:01] <bekks> G0di: There is no reason to contact me outside of this channel - and this channel is for ubuntu related support only.
[22:01] <G0di> ok
[22:01] <dlam> hmm im trying to install a package "libmemcached4" but I cant seem to find it, anyone know what to check?
[22:02] <Newber> Im running In ubuntu 12.10, where do I find the terminal?
[22:02] <tgm4883> dlam, what version
[22:02] <nomo> bekks, ok because when i did ctl-alt-f1 to investigate further right after i turned off apparmor and could run google-chrome it said i couldnt update or download any packages and id neer seen anything like that in bash before
[22:02] <G0di> sudo apt-get install libemecached4
[22:02] <dlam> tgm4883:  Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS  lucid
[22:02] <nomo> bekks, just assumed that bc id never seent that message before.
[22:02] <bekks> nomo: So could you pastebin the entire error message?
[22:03] <tgm4883> dlam, libmemcached4 isn't available in 10.04
[22:03] <dlam> gah
[22:03] <k1l> Newber: press the windows key and type "terminal"
[22:03] <dlam> somehow its installed on this box -_-
[22:04] <dlam> i guess maybe it was manually installed
[22:04] <nomo> bekks, i restarted my computer. ill will turn apparmor off again.
[22:04] <tgm4883> dlam, doesn't look like it's offered in any supported version of Ubuntu. 10.04 had libmemcached2, 11.10 has libmemcached6
[22:04] <tgm4883> dlam, my guess is that it was in 10.10 or 11.04 and someone forced a package install
[22:05] <nomo> bekks, i just disabled apparmor and you are correct i didnt get that warning in bash this time. how do  turn on app armor again with restarting the computer?
[22:05] <leptone> I have a PDF of a text book. But its an image not text. does anyone know an application that can scan each page and turn the pictures into text?
[22:06] <nomo> bekks, without having to restart the computer. sorry
[22:06] <bekks> nomo: I dont know how to turn it off ;)
[22:06] <bekks> nomo: So how did you turn it off?
[22:06] <|nv|s|b|e> sudo service /etc/init.d/apparmor start ?
[22:08] <Newber> Im running In ubuntu 12.10 through virtualbox. But I cant get any sound. How can I fix that?
[22:09] <nomo> bekks, i will paste bin it. hold on... and i will restart the computer...http://paste.ubuntu.com/5711657/
[22:10] <bekks> nomo: That will disable apparmor so it wont be active on next reboot.
[22:10] <nomo> how do reenable it?
[22:11] <leptone> anyone know an app that will scan an image for text and convert the image to text?
[22:11] <bekks> nomo: I have to clue about that, sorry.
[22:11] <lonejack> passed to 12.04 from 10.04. Some repositories have been disabled(i.e. this form google http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/). Do you think I can re enable them?
[22:12] <Rarrikins> Why does the #! line on scripts fail if the line endings are in DOS mode?
[22:12] <Newber> in 12.10, in terminal - How do I make the symbol that looks like an I?
[22:13] <gLoMeR> #quit
[22:13] <nomo> bekks,  i said i know nothing about it!  i just typed start where i typed stop before and its on. now i need to figure out how to use apparmor.
[22:13] <k1l> Newber: altgr + <
[22:13] <Newber> thanks
[22:14] <leptone> anyone know an app that will scan an image for text and convert the image to text so i can copy and paste things that were in the original image?
[22:18] <leptone> anyone know a good OCR app for Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> http://www.onlineocr.net/
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> not sure if for linux is all
[22:19] <leptone> ill check it out
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> online I believe
[22:21] <leptone> can anyone recommended one of these OCR tools: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR
[22:24] <Josefineif> i have a windows 8.exe, but no .iso. how can I install windows from ubuntu?
[22:24] <Josefineif> i've tried running the windows 8 installer through wine, but the platform is not supported it says
[22:24] <OerHeks> Josefineif,  windows8.exe sounds not legit. try ##windows
[22:27] <miksd> i've been wondering why ubuntu has so outdated version of chromium? isn't it unsecure to use many versions old browser with many security holes?
[22:27] <tgm4883> OerHeks, that sounds like the downloader that MS users to get the ISO
[22:28] <gottwisst> miksd: Sometimes they use outdated stuff (I am not sure why)
[22:29] <gottwisst> miksd: I know that they're not supposed to release stuff unless it has a certain level of bugfreedom
[22:29] <gottwisst> but I don't know if that has anything to do with it
[22:31] <leptone> does anyone know a good article for installing Tesseract on 12.04?
[22:33] <angband> anyone use ubuntu or similar linux system to drive about 8 flat screen displays with a matrox video card?  It's a machine to display stats for our call center and we're having issues running so many copies of chrome - webpages stop responding, etc.
[22:34] <gottwisst> leptone: Couldn't find what you were looking for, but I found these two, which may or not be of interest: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2001148
[22:34] <gottwisst> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OCR#Tesseract
[22:36] <leptone> gottwisst, thx. yeah I check those out. does this look reasonable ? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/how-to-extract-all-text-from-pdfs.html
[22:37] <gottwisst> leptone: yes, acutally, that looks like how one would install tesseract
[22:38] <sect0r> I'm OCD and want to remove the stuff that 404's when I do an apt-get update, what file hold's that info?
[22:38] <gottwisst> angdband: No, but could it be that it's too much for the hardware to handle. Also, have you tried other browsers?
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> sect0r, /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d  however just removing it may not be your best answer there are factors.
[22:39] <gottwisst> No as in: No I have not had experience driving about 8 displays of a metrox video card.
[22:42] <slabgrha> and... here we go
[22:42] <slabgrha> ok... gottwisst got disconnected
[22:42] <slabgrha> so, the system doesn't seem that bad
[22:42] <gottwisst> ? what?
[22:43] <slabgrha> i'm angband
[22:43] <slabgrha> my internet connection went blarrrrggh
[22:43] <gottwisst> ah
[22:44] <slabgrha> so, the system seems a-ok during the issues.  I'll give another browser a wack
[22:44] <gottwisst> okay. I can't give you any in-depth, technical help, really
[22:45] <gottwisst> But I know some broswers handle multiple tabs, etc., better than others
[22:46] <patr|ck> hello
[22:46] <ickyF33t> Hello!
[22:46] <slabgrha> no worries
[22:47] <patr|ck> <3
[22:47] <slabgrha> was hoping that someone else might be doing something similar in a call center
[22:47] <ickyF33t> Can someone help me please; I'm trying to setup a gmail account for my grandma but her stupid house doesn't get cell reception and you need to verify by phone.
[22:48] <leptone> So OCRFedder doesnt recognize my PDFs. am i doing somthing wrong? do i need to convert it into a differnt fill form?
[22:48] <ickyF33t> She's going to love 12.10  ; it's awesome
[22:49] <ickyF33t> can anyone help please, I would really appreciate it so I can have my gparents setup with email
[22:49] <gottwisst> ickyf33t: Wouldn't it be best to talk to Google support about that?
[22:50] <gottwisst> that is, setting up a gmail account
[22:50] <ickyF33t> do they have a support?
[22:50] <gottwisst> I would like to think so
[22:50] <k1l> ickyF33t: well. you should contact the google support, not the ubuntu support. we have nothing to do with that services
[22:50] <gottwisst> I would be schocked if they didn't
[22:52] <leptone> when i try to add a file to OCRFeeder. the "finder" window that comes only shows images. i try to change this in the bottom right, but images is the only option. OCRFeeder wiki says it accepts PDFs anyone know whats going on?
[22:53] <gottwisst> What GUI are you using, leptone?
[22:53] <leptone> OCRFeeder
[22:53] <gottwisst> OS GUI, I mean
[22:53] <leptone> Unity
[22:53] <schultza> im now having problems with my audio.. i start something and it auto switches to my HDMI port with NOTING connected. How do I stop this or should I upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:53] <leptone> i think....
[22:53] <leptone> if you mean Unity vs Gnome. I'm using Unity
[22:54] <gottwisst> I've had issues with in-app GUI's not displaying properly in Unity. I don't know if that is the issue. Try it in another GUI
[22:54] <gottwisst> like gnome
[22:54] <devilboy> hi, lubuntu running fine. but one question, why i dont see lubuntu's bootscreen when i startup my pc? :P
[22:55] <gottwisst> schultza: Whatever the problem is, I doubt it yould fix it upgrading from 12.04
[22:55] <leptone> try it in Gnome? how would one switch from Unity to Gnome?
[22:56] <schultza> my weekend update (since friday) does not have anything related to audio.. i dont knwo what happened to this setting in it getting screwed up
[22:56] <ubuntuaddicted> i am getting a password dialog box that my normal users password isn't working for. not sure how to solve
[22:56] <gottwisst> devilboy: You installed Lubuntu OS?
[22:56] <leptone> gottwisst, try it in Gnome? how would one switch from Unity to Gnome?
[22:56] <ubuntuaddicted> the dialog box states, "please enter your current login password to stop the mythbackend server"
[22:56] <ubuntuaddicted> when I enter my users password it says it's wrong
[22:57] <gottwisst> leptone: Log out, click on the small white circle above the password box, choose gnome, and log back in
[22:57] <devilboy> gottwisst: yes.
[22:57] <devilboy> gottwisst: but i see lubuntu screen only when i turn off my pc ;p
[22:57] <[snake]> can spysheriff infect linux with spyware if I ran it in wine?
[22:58] <krishna_> My PS2 mouse freezes when I press "Page Down" key repeatedly on my PS2 keyboard
[22:58] <[snake]> krishna_, that's an interesting reaction for your mouse XD
[22:58] <krishna_> It freezes even on repeatedly hitting right "ctrl" key
[22:58] <gottwisst> devilboy: If you're booting off your Lubuntu partition, it should have the lubuntu bootscreen
[22:59] <[snake]> krishna_, which mouse and keyboard is it, maybe it is built poorly???
[22:59] <gottwisst> assuming that that is different to normal ubuntu one
[22:59] <devilboy> gottwisst: i dont get u
[22:59] <devilboy> gottwisst: i installed lubuntu 12.10 1 month ago.
[22:59] <krishna_> snake: Detected as Generic PS2
[22:59] <krishna_> For the moment, I am using "sudo rmmod psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse"
[22:59] <hayer> How can I run a script every 10th min? What are the crontab parameters?
[23:00] <gottwisst> devilboy: I have not had experience with Lubuntu other than it'ß stock GUI's
[23:00] <gottwisst> its
[23:00] <devilboy> gottwisst: ok thanks! anyway its not a problem i was just curious why it isnt shown
[23:00] <[snake]> krishna_, yeah, but are the manufacturers to blame? is it a faulty piece of hardware? maybe even your motherboard(assuming this is what your PS2 ports are from) is to blame.
[23:00] <leptone> gottwisst, thx ill brb
[23:00] <[snake]> i've never heard of external ps2 ports tho
[23:00] <[snake]> lol
[23:00] <gottwisst> Actually, I don't really see my Ubuntu bootscreen either
[23:01] <gottwisst> since I upgraded to Ubuntu 12.10
[23:01] <gottwisst> devilboy: So It might be a general thing with Ubuntu 12.10
[23:01] <krishna_> snake: Yeah, it may be the case. Motherboard is of Asus and Keyboard and Mouse are of Zebronics
[23:01] <devilboy> gottwisst: yeah maybe
[23:02] <[snake]> krishna_, well, I'd try it in another computer. and also with another operating system(to check if it is indeed a linux bug)
[23:03] <[snake]> krishna_, try all sorts of combinations and try to diagnose the problem with trial and error.
[23:03] <[snake]> if you can.
[23:03] <leptone> gottwisst, so i switched to Gnome. Same problem, the window that comes up only has the option to view images.
[23:03] <ThatOneRoadie> Heyo folks
[23:03] <ThatOneRoadie> I've got a fun one for you
[23:03] <krishna_> snake: Ok, will try it
[23:03] <[snake]> krishna_, ok, let me know :)
[23:04] <ThatOneRoadie> I'm currently performing a horrendously-overcomplicated install of Ubuntu
[23:04] <nathan28> ThatOneRoadie: ubutnu-minimal
[23:04] <nathan28> and install systemd
[23:04] <hayer> Got 20 250GB disks in raid - my biggest install of ubuntu so far :p
[23:04] <ThatOneRoadie> nonono
[23:04] <krishna_> snake: BTW this is the message from dmesg just after the mouse freezes. psmouse serio1: Failed to enable mouse on isa0060/serio1
[23:04] <ThatOneRoadie> Clarification: Horrendously complicated boot process
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> !details | ThatOneRoadie
[23:05] <krishna_> Any idea, what that means and cause?
[23:05] <ThatOneRoadie> but the gist of it is this (and this part works): Insert disk containing iPXE. iPXE chainloads an iPXE script from a server that mounts the ubuntu drive as an iSCSI disk, then loads Grub.
[23:05] <[snake]> krishna_, I am not sure :(
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> !enter | ThatOneRoadie
[23:05] <krishna_> snake: Ok, thanks.
[23:06] <Quest> where is the history located? i though it would be .bash_history. but it isnt?
[23:06] <[snake]> can spysheriff infect linux with spyware if I ran it in wine?
[23:06] <gottwisst> leptone
[23:06] <ThatOneRoadie> Grub then shows Ubuntu and launches it. shortly thereafter, I get a "Gave up waiting for root device.", followed by an "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/bobloblaw-...... does not exist. Dropping to a shell!"
[23:07] <ThatOneRoadie> and then I get rudely dropped to an initramfs shell. Any Ideas where it's failing? I'm thinking I missed some absurdly-simple iscsi configuration flag, or update-grub didn't process right, or something.
[23:07] <[snake]> Quest, strange, mine is located there. I'm on ubuntu 12.04
[23:07] <leptone> gottwisst, yes?
[23:08] <leptone> its still not working in Gnome same problem
[23:08] <ubuntuaddicted> i am getting failed su for root by user daniel BUT sudo -i works, how do I fix this
[23:08] <gottwisst> sorry
[23:08] <Quest> [snake],  in home dir?
[23:08] <leptone> its ok! any other ideas?
[23:08] <gottwisst> still wroking on it
[23:08] <gottwisst> lookng round
[23:08] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, do you know your root password? try sudo su
[23:08] <[snake]> instead. if you don't know your root password ubuntuaddicted
[23:08] <leptone> cool cool. thx for showing me Gnome btw, its pretty cool!
[23:09] <[snake]> Quest, yes.
[23:09] <wilee-nilee> !sudo | ubuntuaddicted
[23:09] <hayer> crontab */10 * * * * /usr/bin/somedirectory/somecommand -- will run somecommand every 10th minute, correct?
[23:09] <archstar> Does anyone know when the 13.04 cd label will be released?
[23:09] <gottwisst> looking at the ubuntu software center, looks like someone else has similar problem to you
[23:10] <[snake]> archstar, it will probably be after this week.
[23:10] <archstar> hayer: yes
[23:10] <[snake]> after today actually.
[23:10] <Quest> [snake],  http://pastebin.ca/2360204
[23:10] <archstar> cool!
[23:10] <ThatOneRoadie> so, no ideas on iSCSI booting
[23:10] <Quest> people. i have this fresh install. http://pastebin.ca/2360204      where is my bash history?
[23:10] <ThatOneRoadie> cool :D
[23:10] <ubuntuaddicted> I can sudo su as well but I am getting this dialog box that is saying "please enter your current login password" but when I enter it it fails
[23:11] <gottwisst> leptone, I just installed OCRFeeder, and top right it had a button with "automatically detecty and recognize all pages"
[23:11] <gottwisst> do you not have that
[23:11] <gottwisst> sorry, top left
[23:11] <[snake]> Quest, um. well it might be different if you're on a live cd. unless your user is named ubuntu.
[23:12] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, that is because su requires the password for the account root. not daniel's password.
[23:12] <ubuntuaddicted> just makes no sense why this dialog box keeps failing when asking for my current users password
[23:12] <[snake]> yes it does make sense.
[23:12] <[snake]> it's asking for root.
[23:13] <nathan28> guys can ubuntu help me fly a drone? right now i am really scared about the stuff in boston and i don't want terrorists to put viruses on my drone
[23:13] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], but it's asking for my current logged in user, which is my username
[23:13] <[snake]> Switch User.
[23:13] <leptone> gottwisst, i only see the "x" to close the window in the top right...?
[23:13] <[snake]> su
[23:13] <leptone> "x" in an orange circle
[23:13] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], ok, so how do I setup a root password in ubuntu even though I thought you didn't need to do that
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> ubuntuaddicted, you don't
[23:13] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, you don't. I can tell you how but it is not recomended
[23:13] <gottwisst> leptone, sorry, top left
[23:13] <Quest> [snake],  its a vps
[23:14] <gottwisst> leptone, it'ß a blue button
[23:14] <[snake]> Quest, I'm not sure.
[23:14] <Quest> k
[23:14] <Quest> anyone else?
[23:14] <leptone> gottwisst, like bellow File, Edit, View, Etc tabs?
[23:14] <ubuntuaddicted> wilee-nilee, [snake] i don't see any other way around this password prompt from this dialog box otherwise?
[23:14] <gottwisst> yes
[23:14] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, sudo -i will suffice, but if for whatever reason you need to change the root password(which is again not recomended) then you do sudo -i. and then passwd.
[23:14] <gottwisst> right beside a green plus
[23:15] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, that will change the root password
[23:15] <leptone> gottwisst, so i see 4 "grey-out" icons next to the green plus. i cant click on them....
[23:15] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, su is switch user. but you can and should use sudo -i if you need root privelages.
[23:15] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, so that you DON'T have to change your root password.
[23:15] <nathan28> i always thought it was 'substitute user'
[23:16] <gottwisst> leptone: Do you have a file open?
[23:16] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], i understand but for whatever reason this dialog box is using su root
[23:16] <[snake]> nathan28, perhaps
[23:16] <gottwisst> leptone, click file and then click open
[23:16] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, su default is root I presume
[23:16] <gottwisst> leptone, and then choose a file
[23:16] <gottwisst> the buttons should then come alive
[23:16] <leptone> the file i want to scan/analyses?
[23:16] <gottwisst> yes
[23:16] <hayer> where is the log of cronjobs ?
[23:17] <hayer> i mean; where can I see if a cronjob failed.
[23:17] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, su root ALWAYS asked for root password. just as if user alice ran: sudo daniel. then she would need daniel's password. I'm 99% sure this is how the su command works.
[23:18] <[snake]> then alice would switch to daniel
[23:18] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], makes sense. it's something within mythbuntu, when I click on mythbackend setup it's asking me to enter my users login password but doesn't say to enter user root password
[23:18] <OerHeks> hayer, " grep CRON /var/log/syslog  "
[23:19] <gottwisst> leptone, how's it going
[23:19] <shcherbak> ubuntuaddicted: "sudo -i" for root shell, sudo root and others are not cool
[23:19] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, which user clicked on mythbackend
[23:19] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, also, shcherbak and wilee-nilee are right. su is not cool.
[23:19] <[snake]> sudo -i is safe. and it works prefectly fine.
[23:22] <[snake]> suddenly silence. im going to throw my question up again.
[23:22] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], i believe it's being run as root
[23:22] <[snake]> can spysheriff infect linux with spyware if I ran it in wine?
[23:23] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, you logged in as root?
[23:23] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], which I can't control. I also have no control of how the scripts run, it's running su root apparently
[23:23] <[snake]> and clicked on it, with root
[23:23] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], no
[23:23] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], no
[23:23] <gottwisst> Leptone: I assume that's sorted it. After loading up a file you want to convert, click the blue "automatically detect and recognize all pages button", and then the "Export to ODT" button right next to it. I'm out.
[23:25] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, If you are logged in with daniel, and are clicking on programs ran as daniel(gnome w/e) that display other programs. then MOST LIKELY. 100% you are running that program as daniel.
[23:25] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], it's the startup script appently, must be run as root>
[23:26] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, can you refresh me on what exactly your problem is? I'm getting VERY confused.
[23:27] <yitz_> How do I run a user script on graphical login via GDM ?
[23:29] <leptone> can anyone help me with what gottwisst was helping me with. im still stuck. I can't open a PDF like he suggested. PLease help.
[23:29] <[snake]> yitz_, try replacing a resource that gdm uses with your program
[23:29] <yitz_> [snake]: I don't know what user-level resource GDM uses
[23:30] <[snake]> yitz_, idk. in a version of windows vista, you could replace the narrator executable with a cmd that had admin privelages.
[23:32] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, run, "man su" in terminal and that should tell you everything about su command
[23:32] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], i am clicking on a menu item called "mythbackend setup", it opens a dialog box that asks for my current users login password. it kept failing so I finally looked at /var/log/auth.log and it said that su for root by user daniel failed
[23:33] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], that finally made me realize that these scripts are asking for the root password and not my users password, so I added a root password and now everything is working.
[23:33] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, you see that makes such a difference now that I know that.
[23:33] <[snake]> not confused at all.
[23:34] <[snake]> ubuntuaddicted, well, it may not be recommended but if it works for you, then w/e. just don't allow ssh to your computer and you should be fine.
[23:34] <[snake]> i think O_o
[23:36] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], like I said, I really don't have a choice since these are all scripts built by the maker of mythbuntu
[23:36] <ubuntuaddicted> [snake], i allow ssh but not root
[23:37] <[snake]> yeah, no choice.. :C
[23:38] <ThatOneRoadie> So, Let's see if anyone can solve this one now:
[23:38] <ThatOneRoadie> Insert disk containing iPXE. iPXE chainloads an iPXE script from a server that mounts the ubuntu drive as an iSCSI disk, then loads Grub. Grub then shows Ubuntu and launches it. shortly thereafter, I get a "Gave up waiting for root device.", followed by an "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/bobloblaw-...... does not exist. Dropping to a shell!", and then I get rudely dropped to an initramfs shell. Any
[23:38] <ThatOneRoadie> Ideas where it's failing? I'm thinking I missed some absurdly-simple iscsi configuration flag, or update-grub didn't process right, or something.
[23:39] <miksd> how i can disable laptop touchpad on ubuntu
[23:39] <|nv|s|b|e> mouse settings
[23:39] <|nv|s|b|e> or
[23:39] <|nv|s|b|e> google jupiter applet
[23:42] <ThatOneRoadie> Nothing. Coool
[23:42] <ThatOneRoadie> I've got a problem that #ubuntu can't solve :D
[23:42] <|nv|s|b|e> you mean, you created a problem
[23:42] <quuxman> aaaaarhg! I ran an upgrade (yeah, stupid I know), and now my regular gnome desktop is completely gone
[23:43] <quuxman> I only have "gnome classic" and "ubuntu" in my session menu when I log in
[23:43] <quuxman> I can't install gnome-desktop-environment
[23:43] <sect0r> During Ubuntu installation, if I choose the full encryption, then later check to encrypt my home folder, does it ignore it?
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> quuxman, IN synaptic i precise it says this "This meta-package is obsolete and has been replaced by “gnome”." Have you looked at gnome 3
[23:47] <[snake]> about to wine install rouge virus trojan spysheriff under wine. I'll tell you guys what happens
[23:47] <[snake]> wine install under wine. DOH
[23:49] <|nv|s|b|e> D`oh!
[23:50] <quuxman> wilee-nilee: the gnome package has the same dependency error
[23:51] <skinofstars> hello. anyone know how to make smuxi's input area larger? it doesn't seem to have any grab handles
[23:51] <quuxman> gnome -> gnome-core -> gnome-shell -> libgcr-3-1 (>= 3.4.0), which doesn't exist
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> quuxman, I didn't say for you install gnome.
[23:51] <quuxman> this is pretty shitty, to run an upgrade and have your desktop environment disappear entirely
[23:52] <quuxman> wilee-nilee: the 'gnome' package is gnome 3
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> quuxman, the gnome-shell is gnome 3
[23:52] <Guest2396> hi
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> quuxman, Do you have a nvidia card per-chance, if so you have to reload the driver on a upgrade.
[23:53] <quuxman> wilee-nilee: that has _nothing_ to do with this problem. This is broken packages
[23:53] <quuxman> and no, I don't. It's an intel card
[23:54] <leptone> can anyone recommend a could voice engine for Orca the default/espeak one sounds like a caricature of a computer...
[23:54] <dlam> im on 10.04 lucid, and i want to install the "libmemcached4" package  like here...  http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/drizzle_developers/lucid/main/base/libmemcached4
[23:54] <dlam> anyone know what to enable to get it?
[23:54] <Guest2396> my touch pad uses two kind of scrolling - two fingers scrolling and by one finger (at right side). how can i disable - one finger scrolling?
[23:54] <dlam> like enable some "updates" repo for apt-get or something?
[23:54] <[snake]> spysheriff did nothing practically. it just keeps having errors. now you'll know if anyone askes
[23:55] <[snake]> oh.
[23:56] <[snake]> nvm. i think it's doing somethig
[23:56] <wilee-nilee> quuxman, You have hardly explained in detail your problem first, and now you respond in a disrespectful manner welcome to ignore.
[23:56] <[snake]> wilee-nilee, i agree.
[23:57] <leptone> how do i get Orca to use the festival voice?
[23:57] <miksd> how i can disable chromiums rant about flash i don't have installed? i do not want to insatall or use flash but every time i got ot youtube chromium whines that adobe flash player is required..and i use html5, i dont need or want flash but that rant "install plugin" box annoys me
[23:58] <[snake]> miksd, perhaps the chromium documentation has the answer? possibly? i do not know.
[23:58] <miksd> dunno
[23:58] <[snake]> miksd, check it.
[23:58] <miksd> too much work
[23:58] <miksd> i thought someone here might know
[23:58]  * SuperLag wonders why the mirrors are so slow tonight... especially with a connection like http://dl.dropbox.com/u/913175/speed.png :)
[23:59] <nrdb> I have moved my Internet connection from eth0 to eth1.... but the default route is still via eth0 ... how do I get it to go via eth1 ?