[00:03] <sid__> Is there a Oauth framework for U1 in the works?
[00:03] <sid__> or some such?
[00:14] <mkarnicki> sid__: you might wanna lookup ubuntuone-java-storageprotocol
[00:15] <mkarnicki> wait, even not that. in general, it's there.
[00:15] <mkarnicki> or I didn't get your question.
[00:15] <mkarnicki> you can oauthorize against U1 servers
[00:16] <sid__> Oauth for any app to get my files
[00:16] <sid__> as in its a good way
[00:16] <sid__> without giving our paswords
[00:16] <sid__> we can access files
[00:16] <mkarnicki> well.. I'm just playing around with java source that does that
[00:17] <mkarnicki> also, U1 client written in python is open source
[00:17] <mkarnicki> sid__: it actually works that way
[00:17] <mkarnicki> you use the browser to log in. you never enter your password in any app.
[00:18] <sid__> Browser yeah.. But like write a java App for say my android...
[00:18] <sid__> standalone?
[00:18] <sid__> cause thats what Oauth really does
[00:19] <sid__> Liek I have a dropbox app for my android
[00:19] <sid__> Its contacting Dropbox via oauth... no browseer
[00:19] <mkarnicki> sid__: you might not know.. I'm writing U1 client for Android right now.
[00:19] <sid__> Hmm cool!
[00:19] <sid__> it uses REST i presume?>
[00:20] <mkarnicki> sid__: no, actually, you had to give your username/pass in the application. howcome then it be oauth.
[00:20] <sid__> Hmm
[00:20] <sid__> And after you give the p/w its all via HTTP GET and POSTS?
[00:21] <sid__> Or what is the protocol?
[00:21] <sid__> Actually let me explain I was writing a pure javascript client for dropbox...
[00:21] <sid__> It uses Oauth and REST
[00:21] <mkarnicki> it is ubuntuone-storageprotocol
[00:22] <sid__> let me check it out thanks...
[00:22] <mkarnicki> u1 uses it's own protocol based on google's protocol buffers
[00:22] <sid__> Hmmmm
[00:22] <mkarnicki> sid__: see ubuntuone-storageprotocol and experimental ubuntuone-java-storageprotocol
[00:22] <mkarnicki> I see, cool
[00:23] <sid__> Since its all abstracted was wondering if itd work for Ubuntu one too :)
[00:23] <mkarnicki> dropbox would conform 100% to oauth if they executed a browser, instead of showing 2 input fields for username and password
[00:23] <mkarnicki> I don't think so..
[00:23] <mkarnicki> they have their own protocol
[00:23] <mkarnicki> based on protobuf
[00:24] <sid__> Well the username and p/w is not given to the app... the U/N and P/W is just to verify the authorzation tokens and let the app do stuff on your storage...
[00:24] <sid__> Technically
[00:24] <mkarnicki> I would also go the easy way, but I was instructed to stick to that. so the AndroidU1 will show one.ubuntu.com to log-in to the application itself
[00:25] <sid__> Hmm
[00:25] <mkarnicki> sid__: well.. I think I remember entering the username and pass into my dropbox app. am I wrong?
[00:25] <mkarnicki> :)
[00:26] <mkarnicki> oauth bases on the trust established to a particular webservice. you see https, you see the lock, you feel safe. there you enter the credentials.
[00:26] <mkarnicki> so I think dropbox took a little shortcut there :)
[00:26] <mkarnicki> not that I don't like it
[00:26] <mkarnicki> but in theory, that Dropbox app could have also been a huge scam you know ;)
[00:26] <mkarnicki> I also have it on my HTC, anyway.
[00:27] <sid__> Well the whole idea of oauth is not to give u/n p/w to the app.. So teh oauth dance step 2 is when Dropbox asks you "This app is asking me for and access token... What dropbox accout do you ant to give access to?"
[00:27] <sid__> so that will be your account
[00:27] <mkarnicki> wait.. I'll check that out right now :) I don't remember
[00:27] <sid__> Hmm
[00:27] <sid__> :)
[00:28] <sid__> Well I am neck deep in this so dont think i got that wrong :)
[00:29] <mkarnicki> ok, when you click "I have a dropbox account" you see email and password. that may be the app, that may be an embedded browser. anyhow, this is wrong. I don't feel safe entering my user/pass here. and you wrote "Well the whole idea of oauth is not to give u/n p/w to the app" - so why should I
[00:29] <mkarnicki> you get my point?
[00:29] <sid__> :)
[00:29] <mkarnicki> that may be an embedded browser, but I don't know about that. where's https, wheres the lock :)
[00:29] <sid__> You are sceptic
[00:30] <mkarnicki> I use a clear definition of oauth. why would you call me that :) ?
[00:30] <sid__> Well under the hood the app does a RESTful HTTPS (and it *should*)
[00:30] <sid__> http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/images/accessrequestpage.jpg
[00:30] <sid__> this is how that page looks
[00:31] <sid__> see how this guy is logged in already
[00:31] <sid__> so it asks for just granting access
[00:31] <mkarnicki> wait dude.. what Android version do you use?
[00:31] <sid__> Older
[00:31] <sid__> i think 1.6
[00:32] <mkarnicki> I use 1.5 . what dropbox version?
[00:32] <sid__> let me see
[00:33] <mkarnicki> by the way, why would you show me a google-related website if we're talking about u1/dropbox?
[00:33] <mkarnicki> check the dropbox version, and let me lookup one line
[00:33] <sid__> 0.9.7
[00:34] <mkarnicki> yep. same here. ok, let me say two things
[00:34] <mkarnicki> 1. you may be more proficient in the topic we're talking about right now
[00:35] <mkarnicki> 2. let me show you one site my mentor suggested reading
[00:35] <mkarnicki> http://fireeagle.yahoo.net/developer/documentation/oauth_best_practice
[00:35] <mkarnicki> which says:
[00:35] <mkarnicki> "we insist that you must not use embedded rendering controls to present the OAuth process "
[00:35] <mkarnicki> how about that?
[00:36] <mkarnicki> what did I get wrong about dropbox then?
[00:36] <sid__> one sec
[00:36]  * mkarnicki has a headache
[00:36] <mkarnicki> ok, no prob
[00:38] <mkarnicki> let me hear what you think when you're ready
[00:38] <sid__> Hmm taht day
[00:38] <sid__> I d/l
[00:39] <sid__> a CLI python client
[00:39] <sid__> to connect to drop box
[00:39] <mkarnicki> aha?
[00:39] <sid__> Now here is how it worked
[00:39] <sid__> i fired it up without my user name and password
[00:39] <mkarnicki> well, it's cli, so it won't jump to a browser :D
[00:39] <sid__> It fails at the 2nd step
[00:39] <sid__> No actauallu
[00:39] <sid__> actually
[00:39] <sid__> Python imports a mechanize.browser module
[00:39] <mkarnicki> it will do a REsTful https request, right?
[00:40] <mkarnicki> uu :)
[00:40] <sid__> that parses the emaila and p/w
[00:40] <mkarnicki> aha :) ?
[00:40]  * mkarnicki interested
[00:40] <sid__> and that is your browser page
[00:40] <sid__> technically
[00:40] <mkarnicki> I see
[00:40] <mkarnicki> neat
[00:41] <sid__> Well see the idea is that the keys themselves are given to one app that expire in some time
[00:41] <mkarnicki> what email and password does it parse?
[00:41] <sid__> and only 1 connection is allowed with that key
[00:41] <mkarnicki> (you wrote about parsing)
[00:41] <sid__> My email and p/w
[00:41] <sid__> as in i give that
[00:41] <sid__> AHA
[00:41] <sid__> but
[00:41] <mkarnicki> aha
[00:41] <mkarnicki> ;)
[00:41] <sid__> the page is being
[00:41] <sid__> served
[00:41] <sid__> from the dropbox server
[00:41] <sid__> not any third party
[00:42] <mkarnicki> so you entered that *on* a webpage, right?
[00:42] <sid__> or some such
[00:42] <sid__> Yeah
[00:42] <sid__> technically
[00:42] <mkarnicki> so what's the point, that's what I was saying :)
[00:42] <mkarnicki> you have that trust context to dropbox
[00:43] <mkarnicki> which you use to ensure you're in a safe environment, not some 3rd party app, didn't you?
[00:43] <sid__> Well I have the trust context in the app whose source i know..
[00:43] <mkarnicki> oh well, you're right here
[00:43] <sid__> yeah that is a problem.. The 3rd party...
[00:43] <sid__> thingy
[00:43] <mkarnicki> but not everybody that uses my app will d/l the source to read it ;)
[00:43] <sid__> So
[00:43] <mkarnicki> so you're saying, if I have an opensource app, I could somewhat jump that browser step?
[00:44] <mkarnicki> like the dropbox app does?
[00:44] <mkarnicki> (which by the way is not OS, so it shouldn't do that ;d )
[00:44] <mkarnicki> (or is it OS ? o_O )
[00:44] <sid__> Well the you need to atleast tell dropbox that hey i am really mkarnicki and i have this app
[00:44] <sid__> other wise anyone will just enter your email and all
[00:45] <sid__> But at no point does a *legit* app try to send your p/w
[00:45] <sid__> to theboogey man
[00:45] <mkarnicki> but on Android I could do that in the browser. you know it can fire a browser intent for you and give you the result back
[00:46] <mkarnicki> yes well, my app will be OS. how do I know the dropbox app doesn't send my pass to theboogey man? (and yes, I did provide it at least twice)
[00:47] <sid__> yeah same thing if dropbox could know the MAC of your Android and say yeah its trusted or a cookie perhaps that it can read off then its ok...
[00:47] <mkarnicki> didn't then they get it wrong? instead of fireing a browser, using an embedded one (or doing a RESTful https request themselve?)
[00:47] <mkarnicki> I'm talking about authorizing user against the server, not the other way :)
[00:48] <mkarnicki> ok, so.. what's you're aiming at?
[00:48] <mkarnicki> what's the conclusion?
[00:49] <mkarnicki> because I lost the motive of our (constructive) talk in the meantime :)
[00:49] <sid__> Hmm... Well i think they screen apps they say are legit and all... I dont know about the hosting and stuff weather its Opensource I am guessing its not...
[00:49] <mkarnicki> sorry, my head aches
[00:49] <mkarnicki> Who screens apps :) For Android Market, you sign it yourself.
[00:49] <sid__> well dropbox made an app themselves
[00:49] <mkarnicki> yep, I also guess it's not.
[00:49] <sid__> for android
[00:50] <mkarnicki> well, yes. we know that, because they had huge publicity :)
[00:50] <sid__> oauth is also for printing services and all i guess which access picasa or some such..
[00:50] <mkarnicki> but if it was my gogole credentials to input on that app (let's forget about those neat google-credential features of the app), I woulnd't type it in ;)
[00:50] <sid__> technically
[00:50] <mkarnicki> I didn't know that :)
[00:51] <sid__> it should always open a browser
[00:51] <sid__> clearly showing
[00:51] <sid__> the URL
[00:51] <mkarnicki> that's what I read, yes
[00:51] <sid__> hmm internally this mechanize.browser thing is hiding but again that was a CLI app
[00:51] <sid__> just to experiment
[00:51] <sid__> I was using its architechture to make a ropbix client in JS
[00:51] <mkarnicki> right, I get it
[00:52] <sid__> you use dropbox app written by the dropbox people right?
[00:52] <sid__> there is a bunch in there
[00:52] <mkarnicki> you should stay up to date to see if I don't f**k things up with AndroidU1 hehe
[00:52] <mkarnicki> well, actually I got it only to "research the market"
[00:53] <sid__> Well this U1 protocole
[00:53] <sid__> is it propritary?
[00:53] <sid__> as in looks like not HTTP
[00:53] <mkarnicki> umm.. well, if you can download the implementation, then I don't think so :D I don't know about the rest of the protocol
[00:54] <mkarnicki> but hey, oauth is oauth, don't mix it with storageprotocol
[00:54] <mkarnicki> it's based on OS protobuf
[00:54] <mkarnicki> but it's not me who you should be asking, I'm quite new here :)
[00:54] <sid__> hmm
[00:54] <sid__> thanks
[00:55] <mkarnicki> umm.. my pleasure :)
[00:55] <mkarnicki> thanks for constructive talk
[00:55] <mkarnicki> I hope your 'thanks' wasn't just dismissive ;)
[00:56] <sid__> Nope
[00:56] <mkarnicki> :)
[00:56] <mkarnicki> ok, I gotta go know.. it's 2AM, and I should have played a bit with the code ;)
[00:56] <mkarnicki> till next time
[03:20] <mkarnicki> had some success with storageprotocol fun :) (http://android-u1.blogspot.com). 4:20AM, time for bed. nite all
[06:11] <Exequihell> hello
[06:11] <Exequihell> how r u
[06:11] <Exequihell> ?
[06:43] <wjordan> hey all, i'm putting together a webapp for Google App Engine that would make it possible to create/edit Tomboy/UbuntuOne notes on the iPad through its web browser - including a dynamic-resizing textarea, saving local edits to HTML5 offline storage, etc. if anyone is interested in such an application let me know~
[07:13] <kermiac> wjordan: It would be great if you could add it to the 3rdparty projects page so others that are interested can find out about it :)
[07:13] <kermiac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/ThirdPartyProjects
[07:18] <wjordan> kermiac: thanks for the link! i will add an entry there as soon as i set up a Google Code repository.
[07:18] <kermiac> wjordan: np. thanks for lettings us know of the app you're working on :)
[10:30] <PrebenR> I'm getting: There was a problem completing the download. Try downloading again
[10:30] <PrebenR> but clicking on the link doesn't resolve the issue
[10:30] <PrebenR> where do I go to report the problem so I get the files I have paid for?
[10:40] <kio> hello everybody. I am having a problem with my ubuntu one client on Ubuntu 10.04: i cannot synchronize any file outside the ~/UbuntuOne folder (i click on synchronize to ubuntu one and nothing happens). If I move what i want syncronized in the ~/UbuntuOne folder, everything is very very slow. It took 30 minutes to (only) create 3 folders and it didn't upload any files. Any idea, please?
[11:54] <error> hi all. can you plz tell me how to install ubuntu-one client on kubuntu?
[12:30] <Emry> What command do I issue to get UbuntuOne to do a complete rescan/download of files?  I just got a message on this system saying that synchronization was complete.. And it still has an empty UbuntuOne directory (95mb on the server).
[13:09] <duffydack> Is there an U1 extension to sync bookmarks for chromium?
[14:33] <mkarnicki> duffydack: hmm, I don't think so (yet). but you might want want to try syncing ~/.config/google-chrome/Default/Bookmarks (I don't even know if it has any chance of working ^ ^)
[14:33] <mkarnicki> duffydack: you can also check out http://delicious.com
[14:35] <mkarnicki> Emry: make sure to check out the links from the channel topic. if you won't find an answer there, ask your question here again tomorrow. on sunday, developers are kind of having some rest :)
[14:36] <duffydack> mkarnicki, there must be a plan for one at some point if chromium is to become a default inn ubuntu
[14:37] <mkarnicki> duffydack: no worries :) chromium is open source. integrating that with couchDB shouldn't be a problem
[14:38] <mkarnicki> duffydack: by the way, where do you know from it is to become a default in ubuntu?
[14:39] <duffydack> its not set in stone but..http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/05/chromium-to-be-default-browser-in.html
[14:40] <duffydack> ok in netbook, but u1 is for netbooks too
[14:41] <mkarnicki> sweet. there are printing issues on chromium?
[14:53] <mkarnicki> duffydack: cool site, that omg ubuntu :)
[15:10] <duffydack> yup :0
[16:05] <ZeroEnna> Hi @ all
[18:09] <marcosroriz> hello guys my ubuntu one doest sync, it's keeps going on and on.. no sync
[18:12] <mkarnicki> marcosroriz: Hi :) I feel like an automated machine. They could use a bot here. It's Sunday evening, come back tomorrow and ask your question :)
[18:12] <marcosroriz> sure :D
[18:12] <marcosroriz> ó/
[18:12] <mkarnicki> I can tell you
[18:13] <mkarnicki> that they are working on it.
[18:13] <mkarnicki> but as you can see, I have no more details. they're about to scale-up the system.
[18:13] <marcosroriz> cool ^_^
[18:13] <marcosroriz> I'm liking u1 more and more
[18:14] <marcosroriz> I'm thinking on helping out (after the gsoc) with syncing apps
[18:14] <mkarnicki> you're taking part in gsoc too :D ?
[18:14] <marcosroriz> it's really cool, and we could use this feature (like syncing xchat (which is just the .folder))
[18:14] <marcosroriz> :)
[18:15] <mkarnicki> i'm writing U1 client for Android during gsoc ;D
[18:16] <marcosroriz> cool ;)
[18:16] <marcosroriz> I'm working for the gnu classpath (gsoc)
[18:17] <mkarnicki> cool =)
[18:17] <marcosroriz> refactoring escher (Impl of a java x11 client) which is used to render graphics and by decoupling with other backends (like directfb)
[18:17] <marcosroriz> ;)
[18:17] <mkarnicki> sounds cool ;)
[18:18] <marcosroriz> it's hard
[18:18] <marcosroriz> :'(
[18:18] <marcosroriz> but cool
[18:18] <marcosroriz> yours too
[18:18] <marcosroriz> I'm learning alot about x11 (which was so ahead of it's time)
[18:18] <marcosroriz> IMO
[18:18] <mkarnicki> it was really?
[18:19] <marcosroriz> yep
[18:19] <marcosroriz> very scalable
[18:19] <mkarnicki> I had tons of docs to read. now I'm about to dig my mind and convert that into code
[18:19] <marcosroriz> well-design architecture
[18:19] <mkarnicki> great =)
[18:19] <marcosroriz> :) /me same
[18:19] <marcosroriz> br
[18:19] <marcosroriz> *brb
[18:38] <trev_> Anybody else have issues downloading from Ubuntu 1 through rhythmbox?
[18:55] <mkarnicki> any hints where I can find Ubuntu (cloud version) icon, svg prefferably ?
[18:55] <mkarnicki> wait.. i didn't check on my PC xD
[18:58] <mkarnicki> didn't find a suitable svg..
[18:58] <mkarnicki> nvm, it's not very important.
[18:58] <trevjs> Anybody have a work-around for the sync problem when purchasing new music through rhythmbox?
[19:02] <mkarnicki> trevjs: such issues are often dealt on one-by-one basis. you might wanna ask that question tomorrow (it's sunday evening ;) )
[19:02] <mkarnicki> trevjs: not that I know the answer. guys might just see that tomorrow :)
[19:07] <trevjs> mkarnicki: ok
[20:47] <duffydack> are the servers bogged down again ?  its very slow to do anything.  Im waiting more than 5mins for a public url for a file.
[20:51] <apachelogger> whom should one be talking to about implemenation of u1 music store into amarok?
[20:52] <beuno> duffydack, yeah, some of the database servers started acting up last week, we're working out what configs they like to eat
[21:06] <maccam94> one of my clients is having an issue with the ubuntu one music store. she gets an error about the gnome keyring. is this a known issue?
[21:09] <beuno> maccam94, it is not
[21:20] <maccam94> here is the error she sent me: http://pastebin.com/uSSHnpK6
[21:20] <maccam94> it looks like there's a problem with ubuntu one accessing the gnome keyring
[21:42] <rotten777> I still can't delete folders from u1 :\... u1sdtool --delete-folder=<id> just sits there and doesn't effect anything
[21:47] <duffydack> just received this error when viewing a public shared url http://pastebin.org/272250
[21:51] <beuno> duffydack, wow, please file a bug about that
[21:51] <duffydack> beuno, it took like 5-7 mins to get the url as well but thats the servers I guess
[21:53] <duffydack> I`m not very good at filing bug reports..  whats the link?
[22:03] <clausen> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:51151
[22:04] <clausen> I suppose this means I disabled a daemon somewhere...
[22:04] <clausen> any ideas?
[22:04] <clausen> (I get this while trying to sign into ubuntu one)
[22:17] <donpdonp>  'Connecting you to the Ubuntu One Music Store...'  sits there forever. no 'back' button either. sigh.
[22:19] <clausen> yeah, me too
[22:19] <donpdonp> im trying to support ubuntu and at the same time save $1 from the amazon mp3 store :)
[22:20] <clausen> have you got an ubuntu one account?
[22:21] <donpdonp> yup
[22:22] <donpdonp> rebooted rhythmbox, and the purchase step is working now
[22:23] <rotten777> 2010-05-23 17:22:35,850 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.sync - INFO - -:-:- - ['-'::'-'] ''/home/matthew/.config/gpodder/database.sqlite-journal'' | Called delete_on_server (In: T:NONE:F)
[22:23] <clausen> ah, you got it?
[22:23] <rotten777> Why do I keep getting that over and over and over and over in my syncdaemon log?
[22:23] <donpdonp> select payment says to use paypal to avoid the fee of a US card buying from a UK merchant, but paypal is not a listed option.
[23:19] <qhdevon43> hey guys
[23:19] <qhdevon43> so the ubuntu one is down right?
[23:27] <mkarnicki> anybody here to know the oauth u1 authorize URL? is it one.ubuntu.com? or one.ubuntu.com/auth ? (.com/auth/login ? )
[23:30] <rotten777> mkarnicki, https://one.ubuntu.com/account/ ?
[23:31] <mkarnicki> rotten777: you know what I'm asking about, right? :) I mean, if you're just guessing you rather got it wrong.
[23:31] <mkarnicki> it doesn't look like oauth url ;)
[23:33] <rotten777> https://login.ubuntu.com/+login
[23:35] <mkarnicki> rotten777: really :D ? how did you know that!? :)
[23:35] <mkarnicki> ouu.. wait
[23:36] <mkarnicki> rotten777: I think it's still not the address I'm looking for. I suspect https://one.ubuntu.com/auth or https://one.ubuntu.com/auth/login
[23:36] <mkarnicki> I'll check that out, when I have the functionality implemented.
[23:36] <rotten777> what are you looking for
[23:36] <mkarnicki> if it's wrong, I'll pop the question again
[23:36] <rotten777> the machine adding url?
[23:36] <mkarnicki> rotten777: you know what is OAuth, right?
[23:36] <mkarnicki> rotten777: no ;)
[23:37] <rotten777> yes no clue haha
[23:37] <mkarnicki> I'm looking for a URL to make a RESTful HTTPs request to authorize against U1 server with OAuth ;)
[23:37] <mkarnicki> :)
[23:38] <mkarnicki> I'm guessing it may be one.ubuntu.com/auth . we'll see. it won't work, if I'll get it wrong :D
[23:38] <rotten777> gl
[23:38] <mkarnicki> rotten777: I'm looking for a ubuntuone URL similar to the twitter one (which isn't visibile here anyway), but that's the example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25o0b2aEw0E
[23:38] <mkarnicki> rotten777: thanks :)


[01:20] <jml> someone just asked me "Is there a way to un-create a release series?"
[01:21] <jml> I can't seem to find a way to do so. Is there one?
[01:26] <mwh> i asked that earlier on!
[01:26] <mwh> but i am going to bed
[02:58] <jml> Good morning Launchpadders.
[02:58] <ajmitch> morning jml
[02:59] <jml> poolie: g'morning
[02:59] <poolie> jml, hello
[03:00] <poolie> jml, mark tells me "jml will soon have you closing bugs through commits" :)
[03:00] <poolie> is this true?
[03:01] <jml> poolie: fsvo 'soon'
[03:01] <poolie> i'd like if we can merge the client code this week so it's not late in the release
[03:02] <jml> poolie: ok. I'll make it a priority.
[03:02] <poolie> that means getting it up for review by say wednesday
[03:02] <poolie> if you want to talk it over, just ask...
[03:03] <jml> poolie: thanks.
[03:04] <jml> poolie: I think we got the client implementation pretty clear at the sydney sprint, so it should be just a simple matter of programming.
[03:04] <poolie> (tm)
[03:04] <jml> quite
[03:06] <poolie> so is there anything blocking it?
[03:06] <poolie> (i realize i'm verging on "are we there yet"... )
[03:06] <jml> poolie: no, I don't think so. I didn't work on it last week because bzr 0.15 migration is higher priority.
[03:07] <poolie> yes, it was
[03:07] <poolie> is that all set now?
[03:07] <jml> poolie: well, I've punted that to lifeless and mthaddon :)
[03:07] <jml> I'll ping them to make sure there are no deployment problems.
[03:08] <poolie> so you're free?
[03:08] <jml> poolie: I think so.
[03:08] <jml> I'm just going through the lp-bazaar bug list to make certain.
[03:09] <jml> which reminds me, is there a way to get an assignee column on a bug list?
[03:10] <poolie> not that i know of
[03:10] <poolie> ask someone in #launchpad :)
[03:10] <jml> I just did!
[03:11] <Lumiere> lol
[03:11] <Lumiere> poolie: this IS #launchpad
[03:11] <poolie> hence the smilie :)
[03:12] <Lumiere> zzz
[05:29] <mpt> Goooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!
[05:30] <ajmitch> hello mpt
[05:32] <Hobbsee> hi mpt!
[05:32] <mpt> hello hello
[05:33] <mpt> It's a beautiful sunny Tuesday
[05:33] <mpt> and here I am cooped up inside working
[06:00] <Acanar> I've created a project on launchpad, but I don't have my own public web server to host my Bazaar branch. How can I upload my source to launchpad?
[06:06] <Hobbsee> Acanar: see wiki.ubuntu.com/Bzr
[06:10] <Acanar> thanks
[08:40] <carlos> morning
[08:46] <mpt> hi carlos
[08:46] <carlos> mpt: hi
[09:06] <mpt> carlos, could you reply to Jamoney Jamin on rosetta-users@?
[09:06] <carlos> sure
[09:06] <mpt> He/she has been waiting since March 27th
[09:06] <mpt> and I don't know the answer myself
[09:06] <mpt> oh, unless kxmame is in universe...
[09:07] <mdke> multiverse
[09:07] <mpt> thanks mdke, I couldn't find that quickly myself because Synaptic thinks update-manager is "another synaptic"
[09:07] <mdke> heh
[09:08] <mpt> carlos, never mind, I can reply, you keep fixing bugs :-)
[09:08] <carlos> mpt: didn't I answer that already?
[09:08] <mpt> carlos, I have no record of that
[09:08] <mpt> just one message from Jamoney on the 27th, and another on the 6th
[09:09] <carlos> no, I didn't, at least in the mailing list...
[09:09] <carlos> let me check
[09:09] <carlos> mpt: well, I though I answered it
[09:10] <carlos> mpt: anyway, it's in universe
[09:10] <carlos> and that's the reason it's not imported
[09:10] <carlos> I know, because I checked it to answer that email...
[09:10] <mpt> ok, I'm just finding the relevant spec to link to
[09:10] <carlos> seems like I got an interruption
[09:10] <mpt> thanks carlos
[09:10] <carlos> and forgot to send it
[09:10] <carlos> mpt: np
[09:11] <mpt> What is the spec? I thought it was called UniverseMultiverse, but apparently not
[09:12] <carlos> mpt: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/language-packs-for-universe
[09:12] <mpt> ah, thanks
[09:13] <carlos> np
[09:13] <mpt> I was looking under "rosetta"
[09:14] <carlos> it's an infrastructure needed in Ubuntu with small changes to Rosetta
[09:15] <mpt> Though even Universe translations won't include Multiverse
[09:35] <carlos> mpt: well, once fixed for universe, multiverse will be trivial
[09:39] <mpt> Really? cool
[10:06] <carlos> mpt: yeah, with universe supported we are able to support any other Ubuntu component
[10:16] <thisfred> hi, We'fe found someone abusing the launchpad bug tracker for spam purposes, but I'm not sure if, and where to report them...
[10:17] <thisfred> It's not a huge problem for us, just thought someone at canonical might like to know...
[10:20] <mpt> thisfred, can you give an example URL?
[10:20] <mpt> stub, ^^^
[10:20] <thisfred> https://bugs.launchpad.net/silva/+bug/104955
[10:20] <ubotu> Malone bug 104955 in silva "testing" [Undecided,Rejected]
[10:21] <mpt> thisfred, was there only one example? That looks like a genuine experiment, not really spam
[10:21] <mpt> Though we should better direct people to staging.launchpad.net if they want to experiment
[10:22] <mpt> ... and staging is down :-(
[10:22] <thisfred> mpt, ok, that may be, I didn't actually download the image they attached, I'll have a look
[10:23] <thisfred> hmm, yeah, undecided, maybe this is quite innocent, sry
[10:25] <mpt> stub, can you revive staging please?
[10:27] <stub> mpt: Tom is doing staging now
[10:28] <mpt> ok
[10:43] <mpt> poolie, you're famous
[10:43] <mpt> http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-6174662.html
[10:59] <indraveni> hi, can some one tell me, mathew revel's chat id here
[11:01] <tj9991> hey everyone, I found launchpad amidst my search for a efficient way to translate my project, and I think its awesome
[11:02] <tj9991> unfortunately I'm going to be on windows for a few weeks until I fix my linux computer, and I can't find hardly anything that will edit po or pot files without crashing
[11:02] <tj9991> tried poedit and omegat
[11:03] <tj9991> its in php, was going to use the gettext library, unless anyone can recommend a better option for the language I'm using
[11:14] <bac> indraveni: mrevell
[11:20] <indraveni> bac, hi
[11:21] <indraveni> bac, I received Elliot's mail, and I replied to that mail. but after that I missed his  reply mail from my inbox
[11:22] <indraveni> bac, I think that mail is sent to you also, can you please send me that mail
[11:22] <bac> indraveni: yes, i'll look into it and talk to elliot.
[11:23] <indraveni> bac, Elliot replied to that mail, by mistake I deleted that mail
[11:23] <indraveni> bac, if you are having that reply from him, could you send me please
[11:24] <travlr> QUESTION: How do remove a branch listing from my personal page?
[11:24] <travlr> QUESTION: How do I remove a branch listing from my personal page?
[11:25] <shirish> can somebody help me file a spec & see there is no existing matching spec.
[11:25] <bac> indraveni: will do.
[11:26] <shirish> I had an idea, so filed a bug, was asked to file a spec. need help to see if the spec. has been already filed, if not then file it.
[11:30] <thumper> travlr: There is no way currently to delete a branch
[11:30] <thumper> travlr: but there is a deprecated project whose name elludes me that you can assign it to
[11:31] <thumper> travlr: it is on the todo list to handle branch deletions effectively
[11:31] <thumper> morning sabdfl
[11:31] <sabdfl> hey thumper
[11:31] <thumper> sabdfl: I'm in the office with the other guys ATM
[11:36] <travlr> thumper: Ok, thanks.
[11:43] <indraveni> bac, thankyou, i receied your mail
[11:45] <bac> indraveni: Very good.
[11:50] <indraveni> bac, how can I edit the first page of launchpad.net/boss
[11:50] <indraveni> bac, its written that there are not officiall releases for BOSS, and I want to edit that
[11:52] <bac> indraveni: Could I ask you to send a list of questions you may have to us?  We're in a meeting at the present time.
[11:52] <indraveni> bac, all the answers I got from Elliots mail,
[11:53] <indraveni> bac, I need to read that stuff. I just want to know about editing the first page with full information about BOSS
[11:53] <indraveni> bac, you continue with your meeting I will talk to you later
[11:53] <bac> indraveni: Have a good day!
[12:08] <thumper> fyi: bug 73975
[12:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 73975 in launchpad-bazaar "Email notification for subscribed branches is not implemented" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73975 - Assigned to Tim Penhey (thumper)
[12:13] <tj9991> I just submitted the template for my project on launchpad, what is the eta for a review decision?
[12:14] <mpt> tj9991, what do you mean by a "review decision"?
[12:16] <tj9991> according to what I've seen so far, in order to receive translations I must first present a template file, correct?
[12:16] <tj9991> and it said the first time you upload the po/pot file, it would be under review to make sure it was set up properly
[12:34] <poolie> mpt: shame they misspelled both me and Launchpad
[12:44] <carlos> tj9991: It depens on how busy Danilo or I are
[12:44] <carlos> tj9991: which project is yours?
[12:45] <carlos> I found it, Trevorchan
[12:48] <carlos> tj9991: it's approved now, once the import process reaches your file it will be imported (it would take a couple of hours)
[12:52] <tj9991> ah, thanks much
[12:55] <mpt> poolie, I noticed they'd misspelled you, hadn't noticed they'd misspelled Launchpad
[12:56] <mpt> oh, Luanchpad
[12:58] <mpt> and Lanchpad!
[12:58] <poolie> very odd
[12:58] <poolie> i'm just waiting for Raunchpad
[12:59] <mpt> Curious that he avoided Lunchpad
[01:02] <mpt> I just e-mailed the author about the errors
[01:03] <poolie> good night
[01:48] <ubotu> New bug: #105105 in launchpad "Product overview page, latest bugs reported, by line incorrect." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105105
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #105068 in malone "Depend less on ordering of e-mail commands" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105068
[02:07] <cprov> morning, folks
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #104862 in kdebase "Feisty: Kicker crashed when trying to print a lot of colour images  (Backtrace attached)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104862
[02:18] <ubotu> New bug: #105009 in launchpad "approximatedate doesn't properly handle singular units of time" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105009
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #104913 in launchpad "launchpad username/e-mail not allowed on ubuntu.com forum login *or* registration" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104913
[02:38] <ubotu> New bug: #104995 in launchpad "typo in +addrelease" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104995
[02:42] <ubotu> New bug: #104848 in hwdb-client "Bad english translation on hwdb-client" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104848
[02:47] <ubotu> New bug: #105012 in launchpad-bazaar "Provide way of running supermirror cronjobs in development environment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105012
[02:48] <SWAT> could launchpad get a 'rating' system for comments (that influences karma)? I've just seen a comment which I think is very much useless and the user gets karma (and everybody is forced to read it)
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #104785 in rosetta "Import page is missing a title" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104785
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #105039 in launchpad "Your SSH key does not match any key registered for Launchpad user" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105039
[02:55] <SWAT> like a comment-voting system, that would be pretty nice. (the comment I'm referring to, is the last comment here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/24184 )
[02:55] <ubotu> Malone bug 24184 in samba "Samba and system passwords should be synchronized." [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #105135 in launchpad-answers "Highlighting of best answer is a bit inelegant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105135
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #105129 in blueprint "Blueprint page has misleading heading" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105129
[03:19] <ubotu> New bug: #105071 in launchpad-answers "Question history doesn't show addition of bug link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105071
[03:29] <ubotu> New bug: #104839 in rosetta "Navigation through batched translation pages is slow" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104839
[03:29] <ubotu> New bug: #105070 in launchpad-answers "Bug link missing from question page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105070
[03:33] <ubotu> New bug: #105016 in malone "Assignee column on bug list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105016
[03:34] <ubotu> New bug: #105073 in launchpad "Automatically add Debian package maintainers to their own team" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105073
[03:35] <j^> what does not have to do to get a cvs branch synted on launchpad?
[03:35] <j^> i always end up with a testing status that is pending a review
[03:36] <spiv> j^: talk to ddaa
[03:36] <spiv> j^: you can ask on the launchpad-users list if you don't feel like waiting for him to be around on IRC
[03:37] <j^> why is this a manual process?
[03:37] <spiv> ddaa can give you the gory details,
[03:38] <spiv> but the short answer is it tries to be automatic, but can't always work without some human intervention.
[03:38] <spiv> And sometimes there's bugs in the import code.
[03:39] <j^> but it says Launchpad has not yet attempted this import.
[03:39] <spiv> Ok, then you'll need to talk to ddaa to find out what's going on.
[03:45] <j^> i was also surprised that i could edit an existing project
[03:45] <j^> mostly  https://launchpad.net/ffmpeg/main/+source
[03:45] <j^> it still had old cvs information from years ago
[03:47] <ubotu> New bug: #105018 in launchpad-bazaar "SFTP server doubles up error messages" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105018
[04:32] <elkbuntu> Is spec/blueprint/whateveritisnow proposing disabled for UDS-Sevilla? If not, I can't seem to find where to do it. If so, when will we be able to propose stuff?
[04:44] <carlos> elkbuntu: it's not disabled
[04:44] <carlos> elkbuntu: go to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:44] <ubotu> New bug: #105159 in launchpad-bazaar "Subscribing twice to a branch causes OOPS" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105159
[04:44] <carlos> choose the spec you want to propose
[04:44] <carlos> and select the 'Propose for meeting agenda' action
[04:47] <ubotu> New bug: #105166 in launchpad "Ask for a new feature : possibility of adding comments on translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105166
[04:48] <elkbuntu> carlos, ah ok. i was trying to do it from the sprint page
[05:12] <bdmurray> Is there a way to unsubscribe a team from a bug?
[05:12] <salgado> bdmurray, only if you're a member of that team, AFAIR
[05:12] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: yes, bu tyou usually have to be the admin
[05:14] <bdmurray> hmm, I seem unable to unsubscribe ubuntu-bugs from a bug.  Is it because they are "also notified"?
[05:17] <salgado> bdmurray, I guess so. when a tem is on the "also notified" list it's usually because it's subscribed/assigned to a dupe
[05:19] <bdmurray> I think ubuntu bugs get subscribed to everything which can be odd with a bug like 102943 which has been rejected in Ubuntu but accepted in Rosetta.  So the ubuntu-bugs mailing list continues to get e-mail about a bug that isn't theirs.
[05:21] <salgado> good point. in that case I think Ubuntu bugs is on the "also notified" list because the bug was once reported against Ubuntu
[05:22] <salgado> maybe Ubuntu bugs should be unsubscribed once the Ubuntu task is rejected
[05:23] <bdmurray> That seems too general as a bug about network-manager that was rejected might get traffic later on.
[05:24] <bdmurray> What happens in the reverse situation where a bug comes in as being about Malone, is rejected and then becomes a bug about Ubuntu?
[05:24] <salgado> the same thing
[05:24] <bdmurray> Is Launchpad Bugs still subscribed to it?
[05:25] <salgado> since we have no way of changing the bug target, we would end up with both Launchpad bugs and Ubuntu bugs on the "also notified" lists
[05:27] <salgado> bdmurray, the problem stems from the fact that Ubuntu bugs is the bug contact for Ubuntu and thus any bugs which have been reported against Ubuntu (even if they were rejected at some point) will have the Ubuntu bugs as an implicit subscriber
[05:28] <salgado> bdmurray, I think it'd be better to discuss this on the mailing list or on a bug report as there are lots of people whose input would be needed here
[05:28] <bdmurray> Okay, I understand the situation and it doesn't happen very often.  However, it would be neat if it there was a way to unsubscribe.
[05:29] <salgado> agreed
[05:29] <bdmurray> salgado: sounds good
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #105223 in launchpad "pygpgme tests on merge disabled" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105223
[06:46] <dpm> hi, I'm a member of the Ubuntu Catalan translation team and I've got a problem with uploading a translation for jokosher (trunk).
[06:46] <dpm> I've tried it several times, and every time I get a message from the Rosetta SWAT Team telling me that the upload failed due to file format errors.
[06:47] <dpm> However, running msgfmt -c cannot detect any errors. I sent a first e-mail to the Rosetta SWAT Team as per the instructions, but the reply was that they coulnd't see anything wrong with it either. Some time passed and I sent a second e-mail, but that got no reply from them.
[06:47] <dpm> This was more than a month ago and now I would like to ask for direction. Shold I simply ask here, file a bug for Rosetta, file a bug for jokosher?
[06:48] <LarstiQ> I'm not familiar with the Rosetta SWAT team, have you mailed rosetta-users?
[06:49] <matsubara> carlos, danilos ^
[06:50] <dpm> no, I haven't, the e-mail I received instructed me to e-mail "Rosetta SWAT Team<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:50] <carlos> dpm: I'm so sorry! I have it in my pending to answer queue and forgot to reply...
[06:50] <carlos> matsubara: thanks for the ping
[06:50] <dpm> oh, ok, have you found out what the problem is?
[06:51] <LarstiQ> Rosetta SWAT is the rosetta developers?
[06:51] <carlos> dpm: not yet. I'm putting it on top of my TODO list so I don't forget this again. I will take a look at it tomorrow morning when I start working (I'm leaving now)
[06:51] <dpm> ok, thank you very much
[06:51] <carlos> LarstiQ: yeah, we are stop using that joke... but we are those ;-)
[06:53] <carlos> dpm: thanks for your patience. I will mail you tomorrow where the problem is and whether I got a fix in Launchpad or a workaround to get it imported
[06:53] <dpm> carlos: no probs, I was already guessing you were quite busy. thanks
[06:54] <carlos> well, we are, but not to delay so much an answer...
[06:55] <LarstiQ> carlos: ok, I'll ping you then if anyone mentions them again :)
[06:56] <carlos> LarstiQ: either danilos, jtv or I should be able to handle any question for the SWAT team :-P
[06:56] <LarstiQ> carlos: did jtv join already?
[06:57] <carlos> LarstiQ: yeah, two weeks ago
[06:57] <LarstiQ> cool
[07:13] <carlos> see you tomorrow!
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #105034 in launchpad "launchpad.net reveals users' email addresses. AND as plain text..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105034
[08:21] <tokj> buond
[09:14] <dpm> a question: when translating directly into Rosetta, is that equivalent to a "User upload" or to a "Published upload"?
[09:45] <avoine> Hi mrevell, do you need more information for the froglinux distribution in launchpad?
[09:45] <mrevell> hey avoine
[09:45] <mrevell> avoine: Can you remind me where we got to in our last discussion>
[09:45] <avoine> I send you a email for a new distribution in launchpad
[09:46] <avoine> but since the web site change a lot
[09:46] <avoine> I just want to be sure that you have the last info
[09:47] <avoine> it's the quebec loco team disctribution
[09:58] <ryanakca> who do I ask about a kubuntu.org subdomain? I've heard jo.no, el.mo, ma.ko... etc...
[09:59] <ryanakca> hmm... interesting how they all end in 'o' :)
[10:27] <ryanakca> can a launchpad admin look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4794 please?
[10:27] <ryanakca> I can't fix it myself due to a bug... I'm looking for someone to rename http://launchpad.net/kcypher to kcipher
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #105290 in launchpad "launchpad won't let me file a bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105290
[10:37] <totalwormage> ehhhh
[10:37] <totalwormage> well, that's a silly bug
[11:02] <Kmos> ryanakca: send e-mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:02] <ryanakca> Kmos: did that 4-5 days ago, no reply
[11:03] <ryanakca> totalwormage: lol, if it won't' let you file a bug, how did you file a bug against it not letting you file a bug...
[11:04] <totalwormage> ryanakca: i didn't file it :]
[11:04] <ryanakca> I know
[11:04] <ryanakca> you just commented...
[11:04] <totalwormage> ah yes, sorry hehe
[11:04] <Kmos> ryanakca: you clicked on "continue waiting approval ?"
[11:04] <totalwormage> it's silly indeed :p
[11:04] <ryanakca> lol
[11:04] <Kmos> ryanakca: I'll send the e-mail for you..
[11:05] <ryanakca> Kmos: continue waiting approval?
[11:05] <Kmos> ryanakca: yep
[11:05] <Kmos> if u're not subscribed
[11:05] <ryanakca> ah
[11:06] <Kmos> :)
[11:07] <ryanakca> Kmos: thanks :)
[11:08] <Kmos> np
[11:08] <Kmos> now, you just need to wait
[11:09] <Kmos> ryanakca: Whiteboard:  kiko, could you change the name please? -- matsubara
[11:09] <Kmos> :)
[11:09] <Kmos> it's for kiko
[11:09] <Kmos> kiko: hey :)
[11:10] <kiko> hey Kmos
[11:10] <kiko> what did I do now?
[11:10] <ryanakca> lol
[11:10] <ryanakca> [16:27:06]  <ryanakca> can a launchpad admin look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4794 please?
[11:10] <ryanakca> [16:27:40]  <ryanakca> I can't fix it myself due to a bug... I'm looking for someone to rename http://launchpad.net/kcypher to kcipher
[11:10] <ryanakca> please?
[11:12] <kiko> oh, let's fix that up.
[11:13] <ryanakca> thanks :D
[11:14] <kiko> ryanakca, done.
[11:16] <Kmos> kiko: nice
[11:16] <Kmos> =)
[11:17] <Kmos> kiko: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4794
[11:17] <Kmos> you can close the ticket :)
[11:20] <ubotu> New bug: #105303 in rosetta "Visiting 'Change translator' form fails with NoCanonicalUrl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105303
[12:15] <TheVault> Is this the right channel to report errors & bugs?
[12:15] <TheVault> If so, then I have one(possibly)
[12:16] <stgraber> if it's related to Launchpad itself yes, otherwise no :)
[12:16] <TheVault> Oh.


  Mind if I ask what brings you here though?
[03:29] <cyberanger> jackson: Whereabouts?
[03:29] <jackson> been here before
[03:29] <cyberanger> Oh, Butler
[03:29] <Unit193> cyberanger: Nice catch.
[03:31] <jackson> my father was born in New Concord too
[03:31] <jackson> and I have lived in Dayton  for 4 years
[03:31] <jackson> so I have a connection
[03:32] <jackson> and butler is only 30 mins from Ohio
[03:32] <jackson> soooo whet the ell
[03:32] <jackson> what*
[03:33] <jackson> so where are youns from?
[03:34] <Unit193> Ohio, Mansfield area.  Born in Akron though.
[03:34] <jackson> k
[03:35]  * jackson was born in Augsburg Germany
[03:35] <cyberanger> jackson: From Erie, PA, now live in Chattanooga, TN area
[03:36] <jackson> cool
[03:37]  * jackson is retired and was a Automated building systems Tech
[03:39] <jackson> I installed a computer in the utility roon and interconnected the whole building to run on a computer and that was from 1978 to 1993
[03:39] <jackson> room*
[03:41]  * jackson was an Energy Manger
[03:41] <jackson> on nuf me tooting my horn
[03:42] <jackson> and u guys?
[03:44] <cyberanger> Title says System Administrator for one job, Stocker for another, really it's "Do the job, no matter the task"
[03:46] <jackson> cool  got to start some where and do what one has to do
[03:48] <cyberanger> Yep
[03:48]  * jackson served in the USAF for 20 years 2 mts 2 days then I retired from the military in 1993
[03:51]  * jackson is working with the Ardunio and Rasberry Pi too
[03:54] <jackson> and u Unit193
[03:55] <jackson> :)
[03:55] <Unit193> Me?  Just trying to get more in the sysadmin side of things, not a programmer (unless it gets late at night.)
[03:55] <jackson> lol k
[03:56] <jackson> tks
[03:57] <jackson> I also mess with solar power and related stuff
[03:57] <cyberanger> That's always fun
[03:57] <jackson> energy management for energy conservation
[03:57] <cyberanger> Passive radar, SDR
[04:05] <jackson> http://www.rtl-sdr.com/passive-radar-dual-coherent-channel-rtl-sdr/
[04:05] <jenni> [ Passive RADAR With a Dual Coherent Channel RTL-SDR - rtl-sdr.com ] - https://j.mp/1bsBHFf
[04:05] <jackson> cool
[04:07] <jackson> I worked insupport of scope dopes operating a 50 Megwatt radar tower on the Calif coast for 3 years    interesting
[04:08] <jackson> jenni: list
[04:08] <jenni> List all the things you know
[04:08] <jackson> haha got 5 years
[04:09] <jackson> jenni version
[04:09] <jenni> Version
[04:09] <jenni> like 1.0.2
[04:23] <jackson> cyberanger and Unit193 i have a chanel on ((Server: irc.spotchat.org  #living_green)) and you and others are invited to hangout. The chanel is about: Living more efficiently using a smaller Carbon footprint.
[04:27] <jackson> *channel
[05:49] <canthus13> weird. I thought I was in any other channel BUT this one. there's activity.  Like... a full screen of it. o.O
[05:51] <Unit193> From PA, TN, and OH.
[05:51] <Unit193> Took 3 states to get this much.
[14:54] <thafreak> now we just need markdude from CA to join in
[15:49]  * dzho checking in from OH, far east division
[15:49] <dzho> (NY)
[15:51] <dzho> jackson: I lived in Dayton for a bit, too.  It was all last century, so . . .
[15:51] <thafreak> last century...way to make yourself seem even older than you are :)
[15:52] <dzho> dude, the Internet, it ages us
[15:52] <dzho> you know how they talk about Internet time?  the kids, they have no idea.
[15:52] <dzho> cut your connections now, while there's still time
[15:52] <dzho> SAVE YOURSELVES
[16:01] <thafreak> did you say get an lte connection to my brain?
[16:02] <thafreak> dzho: have you purchased a laptop recently? I'm in the market and struggling
[16:02] <thafreak> I'm wanting to want the system76 gallago because it has everything I want...
[16:03] <thafreak> but worried about build quality a bit...
[16:04] <thafreak> then there's the new dell xps, but it's basically more expensive than a mac, with similar limited options
[16:04] <thafreak> and no ethernet port, only 2 usb3 ports
[19:39] <yano> https://fi.google.com/ :o
[19:39] <jenni> [ Project Fi ] - https://j.mp/1DOEkua
[20:01] <dzho> thafreak: the thinkpad twist I have I still have problems with Ubuntu 12.04 going into a hard freeze on it, so I'm afraid I can't offer much advice there.
[20:06] <yano> .nws 43210
[20:06] <jenni> Frost Advisory issued April 22 at 3:45PM EDT until April 23 at 8:00AM EDT by NWS
[20:06] <jenni> Complete weather watches, warnings, and advisories for Columbus, OH, available here: http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwaatmget.php?x=OHC049 -- You may also PM the bot to get more details.
[20:06] <yano> heh
[20:06] <Unit193> Temp: 39 F (4 C) ~ Overcast ~ Windchill: 30 F (-1 C) ~ Humidity: 62% ~ Observed: Wed 22, 15:52
[20:06] <Unit193> :D


[00:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Currently building (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unit
[00:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Preparing packages
[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 QA Signoff: Required
[00:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Preparing packages
[00:18] <Saviq> that's a bad reason to quit...
[00:37] <michi> ubuntu-qa: I have a silo that I need to move into QA and don’t know how to get it there. could someone help out?
[00:37] <michi> Saviq: Might as well quit while you are ahead… :)
[00:38] <ToyKeeper> michi: Sure, but I don't think anything will be landing for a while.
[00:39] <michi> ToyKeeper: Thanks, that’s fine, as long as it gets into the queue...
[00:39] <michi> Basically, silo 54 has been sitting there for about six weeks.
[00:39] <michi> It’s a trivial change.
[00:39] <michi> It never made it past autopkg tests because of a unity8 regression that has nothing to do with the change.
[00:39] <michi> In desperation, I asked Robert Ancell yesterday to sign off for QA, expecting it to make it into the QA queue.
[00:39] <michi> But I can’t spot it on the trello board.
[00:40] <michi> So, my question is what needs to be done to move this silo into the testing queue.
[00:41] <ToyKeeper> michi: https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1703  ?
[00:41] <michi> Yep, that’s the one.
[00:41] <ToyKeeper> michi: It looks like it went directly from QA Required to QA Approved, which bypasses QA entirely.
[00:42] <michi> OK, that’s fine then. Will it eventually make it into the archives automatically?
[00:42] <michi> If so, it’s all good.
[00:42] <ToyKeeper> The usual flow is Required -> Ready -> bot puts it onto the QA board -> testing happens -> QA Approved.
[00:42] <michi> So, now that it is approved, how does it get published?
[00:42] <michi> Do I do that myself?
[00:43] <ToyKeeper> I think so, but it might be good to verify first that it genuinely doesn't need the usual testing process.
[00:43] <michi> I’ve tested already
[00:43] <michi> On the device.
[00:43] <michi> If you look at the diff, you’ll see that it’s the same code anyway.
[00:44] <michi> We just changed a testing dependency so the code can be used with cross builder.
[00:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- justinmcp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1823 Successfully built
[00:44] <ToyKeeper> michi: If it has been waiting so long, could it potentially overwrite changes which have landed since then?
[00:44] <michi> No.
[00:45] <michi> This is the only change to those two packages in months
[00:46] <ToyKeeper> Okay.  I don't know the details on this, but generally landing without QA requires approval from someone with more authority than me.
[00:46] <michi> Well, I got approval from a core dev :)
[00:47] <ToyKeeper> michi: If it's good, then I think it's up to you to publish.
[00:47] <michi> OK, cool, thanks for your help!
[00:47] <ToyKeeper> Might not be a great idea to publish right now though, with the release going out.
[00:47] <ToyKeeper> Once the gates open for OTA14, it's probably fine.
[00:48] <michi> OK, I’ll wait until then, thanks!
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Currently building (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unit
[01:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8
[02:08] <justinmcp_> robru: ping
[02:08] <robru> justinmcp_: pong
[02:09] <justinmcp_> robru: howdy; is it possible to add oxide to a ticket? (last time I checked it required some magic for building)
[02:11] <robru> justinmcp_: yeah if you upload it to a PPA you own I can upload it to the ticket of your choice
[02:12] <justinmcp_> robru: ok, thanks, now I'm off to locate the packaging repo
[02:13] <robru> justinmcp_: I'm technically EOD but will probably be around for a bit
[02:14] <justinmcp_> robru: enjoy your free time
[02:14] <robru> justinmcp_: I'm teaching myself about graph theory, lol
[02:23] <justinmcp_> robru: sounds awesome to me
[02:26] <robru> justinmcp_: it's work related. Some years ago I wrote a topological sort algorithm that worked but was slow. More recently I wrote a much faster version but it's come to my attention that it only works on the simplest of data sets. So now I'm reviewing the slow but working algorithm and trying to speed it up without sacrificing correctness
[02:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/storage-framework)
[02:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 QA Signoff: Required
[02:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Preparing packages
[03:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Chroot problem (yakkety/storage-framework). Successfully built (vivid/storage-framework, xenial/storage-framework)
[04:08] <michi> robru: Chroot problem (yakkety/storage-framework).
[04:08] <michi> https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851
[04:08] <michi> Should I just rebuild?
[04:11] <robru> michi: no I retried it already
[04:12] <robru> michi: if you rebuild it does every arch over again
[04:12] <michi> OK, so I guess I’ll just sit tight :)
[04:12] <michi> Yeah
[04:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 Successfully built
[04:13] <michi> !!!
[04:13] <michi> Thanks! :)
[04:48] <robru> you're welcome
[04:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- michi jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1851 QA Signoff: Ready
[05:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Preparing packages
[05:14] <robru> Saviq: ok I just pushed a fix for the sorting, with tests, let me know if you see any more problems!
[05:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Dependency wait (yakkety/unity-scopes-shell). Successfully built (vivid/unity-scope-click, vivid/unity-scopes-api, vivid/unity-scopes-shell, xenial/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scopes-api, xenial/unity-scopes-shell, yakkety/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scopes-api)
[06:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx pete-woods morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1651 Generating diffs
[06:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jgdx pete-woods morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1651 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/indicator-network, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings). Ready to build (xenial/network-manager, yakkety/network-manager). Successfully built (vivid/indicator-network, vivid/network-manager, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/indicator-network, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-syst
[07:03] <robru> Ok somebody build something with a lot of MPs!
[07:06] <Saviq> robru, ack
[07:06] <robru> Yes!
[07:09] <robru> Saviq: Lol can you build now?
[07:09] <robru> Just wanna see it work before I pass out
[07:10] <Saviq> robru, I did reorder them last night, let me undo
[07:10] <robru> Ok
[07:10] <Saviq> robru, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/log/1636/build/latest/
[07:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Preparing packages
[07:12] <robru> Saviq: sorted list looks right, can you confirm?
[07:15] <Saviq> robru, yeah, looks good
[07:15] <robru> Yeeehaw!
[07:16] <robru> Saviq: I'm quite pleased with my work: https://git.launchpad.net/bileto/commit/?id=faae35564a0e76b0dfd06cbd476952bd3d656d09
[07:18] <Saviq> nice
[07:20] <Mirv> robru:~$ sudo sleep
[07:21] <robru> Mirv: shutting down now
[08:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Currently building (vivid/unity8, xenial/unity8, yakkety/unity8). Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unit
[08:17] <jibel> ogra_, morning, there is a new version of livecd-rootfs in xenial-proposed, that is preferred over the version in the overlay and xenial touch images fails to build. How do you solve this usually?
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Preparing packages
[08:20] <jibel> and any idea why xenial touch images are built with proposed enabled?
[08:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity-api, xenial/unity-system-compositor, xenial/unity8
[08:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Dependency wait (yakkety/unity-scopes-shell). Successfully built (vivid/unity-scope-click, vivid/unity-scopes-api, vivid/unity-scopes-shell, xenial/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scopes-api, xenial/unity-scopes-shell, yakkety/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scopes-api)
[08:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Preparing packages
[09:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld, vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/account-polld). Successfully built (xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[09:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- morphis, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1928 Diff missing
[09:11] <ogra_> jibel, iirc because the overlay builds against proposed
[09:15] <ogra_> jibel, looking at the build error, are you sure you want a dhcp server on the phones ?
[09:15] <jibel> morphis, ^
[09:15] <jibel> ogra_, it's for aethercast iirc
[09:19] <morphis> ogra_: absolutely :-)
[09:19] <morphis> ogra_: that is how WiFi Direct works, you either be the client or the server
[09:20] <ogra_> ok
[09:20] <morphis> and if you are the server you need to operate a dhcp server
[09:24] <ogra_> jibel, looking closer i think normally livecd-rootfs should come from the overlay ... but for that to  work the version needs to be kept higher ... with a new/higher version in -updates the PPA version gets overridden ... your livecd-rootfs doesnt come from proposed as ar as i can tell, but from updates
[09:26] <jibel> ogra_, right, I think we just need to bump the version of livecd-rootfs in the overlay?
[09:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Dependency wait (yakkety/unity-scopes-shell). Successfully built (vivid/unity-scope-click, vivid/unity-scopes-api, vivid/unity-scopes-shell, xenial/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scopes-api, xenial/unity-scopes-shell, yakkety/unity-scope-click, yakkety/unity-scopes-api)
[09:27] <jibel> ogra_, then resync when the version in proposed is released to updates
[09:28] <ogra_> well, simply make sure to keep the overlay version higher
[09:28] <jibel> yup
[09:29] <jibel> ogra_, can you do that or who could help?
[09:30] <ogra_> hmm, but why do you get dhcpd installed anyway then
[09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1888 Failed to build (vivid/mediascanner2, xenial/mediascanner2). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/mediascanner2)
[09:30] <ogra_> if you say it should be in there it seems to DTRT
[09:33] <ogra_> (apart from adding the user )
[09:41] <jibel> ogra_, can you just re-upload the current version in the overlay to the overlay with a higher version number?
[09:41] <ogra_> jibel, yes, on it ... i was just checking that the user is there
[09:41] <jibel> ogra_, ah okay, thanks
[09:45] <ogra_> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+packages?field.name_filter=livecd-rootfs&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=xenial
[09:45] <ogra_> building
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Failed to build (vivid/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity-system-compositor). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, xenial/ubuntu-settings-components, xenial/ubuntu-system-settings, xenial/unity
[10:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Preparing packages
[10:15] <jibel> ogra_, livecd-rootfs has been published, I'll build a set of xenial images
[10:15] <ogra_> +1
[10:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[10:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Preparing packages
[10:46] <jibel> ogra_, builds are successful. Thanks for your help
[10:46] <jibel> now I need arm64
[10:46] <ogra_> \o/
[10:47] <jamesh> trainguards: Could I get a manual upload of the apparmor package from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1489489/comments/4 uploaded to silo 63?  This is an update for libapparmor on vivid prepared by the security team so we can use aa_splitcon() in projects doing triple landings
[10:52] <ogra_> jibel, btw, there dont seem to be many vivid builds this week (at least my turbo doesnt shopw any updates) ... is that wanted ?
[10:52] <jibel> ogra_, no it is not wanted. slangasek built rc yesterday, maybe it affected rc-proposed builds
[10:53] <Mirv> jamesh: ok, copying
[10:53] <ogra_> i think i only had actually one update on tuesday ...
[10:53] <ogra_> for the whole week
[10:53] <Mirv> jamesh: I mean, dget:ing and uploading debdiff
[10:53] <jamesh> Mirv: thank you.
[10:53] <ogra_> but i see not build failures either
[10:53] <jibel> right, last image is from the 6th
[10:54] <jibel> 7th
[10:54] <jibel> ogra_, so either the importer is gone AWOl, or rc-proposed is disabled
[10:54] <ogra_> yeah
[11:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677 Preparing packages
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1888 Currently building (vivid/apparmor). Failed to build (vivid/mediascanner2, xenial/mediascanner2). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/mediascanner2). Ready to build (xenial/apparmor, yakkety/apparmor)
[11:12] <Mirv> jamesh: seems to be building ok, completed now on one architecture
[11:12] <jamesh> Mirv: thanks!
[11:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jamesh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1888 Diff missing (vivid/apparmor). Failed to build (vivid/mediascanner2, xenial/mediascanner2). Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/mediascanner2). Ready to build (xenial/apparmor, yakkety/apparmor)
[11:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677 Currently building (xenial/ubuntu-download-manager). Failed to build (vivid/ubuntu-download-manager, yakkety/ubuntu-download-manager)
[11:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Preparing packages
[11:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677 Preparing packages
[11:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- ChrisTownsend kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1927 QA Signoff: Ready
[11:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Cimi, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Successfully built
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Currently building (yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go). Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld)
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Preparing packages
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677 Failed to build (yakkety/ubuntu-download-manager). Successfully built (vivid/ubuntu-download-manager, xenial/ubuntu-download-manager)
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- mardy dbarth, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1924 Failed to build (vivid/account-polld-plugins-go, xenial/account-polld-plugins-go). Successfully built (vivid/account-polld, xenial/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld, yakkety/account-polld-plugins-go)
[12:28] <Elleo> trainguards: could someone trigger a rebuild of just the arm64 yakkety build in silo 57 please? https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677
[12:30] <marcustomlinson> slangasek: ping
[12:31] <Mirv> Elleo: retried
[12:32] <Elleo> Mirv: thanks :)
[12:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Needs rebuild due to new commits (yakkety/unity-scopes-api, yakkety/unity-scopes-shell). Successfully built (vivid/unity-scope-click, vivid/unity-scopes-api, vivid/unity-scopes-shell, xenial/unity-scope-click, xenial/unity-scopes-api, xenial/unity-scopes-shell, yakkety/unity-scope-click)
[12:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- marcustomlinson, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1884 Preparing packages
[12:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Elleo, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1677 Successfully built
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- jhodapp, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1921 Preparing packages
[13:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- pete-woods, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1929 Failed to build (xenial/libusermetrics). Successfully built (vivid/libusermetrics, yakkety/libusermetrics)
[13:13] <kenvandine> Mirv, do you know the process for updating the touch seed?  can i do that via a MR in a silo?
[13:14] <kenvandine> i have several depends that we are dropping to suggests to make it easier for desktop, but we need to make sure they stay in the device image
[13:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- kenvandine, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1175 Preparing packages
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[14:31] <robru> kenvandine: I don't think it works in bileto. The package gets generated from the seed file in a custom way that bileto doesn't support. You just need an MP to review then manually upload the seed, no ticket
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[14:41] <kenvandine> robru, i've seen it in landings before
[14:42] <kenvandine> i guess i could manually to the PPA though, just to make sure it goes in along with the packages that i'm concerned about
[14:42] <robru> kenvandine: are you sure? ISTR trying it and it didn't work
[14:42] <robru> Yeah I think it needs to be manual
[14:42] <kenvandine> that's fine
[14:43] <kenvandine> just wanted to make sure i do it right :)
[14:44] <boiko> jibel: just talked to bfiller, we don't need to land silo 1902 anymore, we will put its contents together with the silo fixing libphonenumber, so that it will be fine again on yakkety
[14:45] <jibel> boiko, okay
[14:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tiagosh bfiller boiko, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1902 Abandoning ticket
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[14:53] <kenvandine> robru, do you know where the branches live for ubuntu-touch-meta?
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[14:53] <kenvandine> the ubuntu-seeds branches aren't reflective of what's in the overlay
[14:53] <jibel> slangasek, there is no rc-proposed images for today and yesterday, can you have a look?
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 PPA/bzr version mismatch (yakkety/qtmir, yakkety/ubuntu-settings-components, yakkety/ubuntu-system-settings, yakkety/unity-api, yakkety/unity-system-compositor, yakkety/unity8). Successfully built (vivid/qtmir, vivid/qtmir-gles, vivid/ubuntu-settings-components, vivid/ubuntu-system-settings, vivid/unity-api, vivid/unity-system-compositor, vivid/unity8, xenial/qtmir, xenial/qtmir-gles, x
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 /: Failed to upload diffs. Please try regenerating diffs
[15:02] <kenvandine> ogra_, do you know where the vivid and xenial branches are for the ubuntu-touch seed used for the packages in the overlay?
[15:02] <ogra_> kenvandine, there are none ...
[15:02] <kenvandine> so pure manual...
[15:02] <ogra_> released versions do not allow seed changes
[15:02] <kenvandine> yeah... i thought there might have been bzr branches somewhere :)
[15:03] <kenvandine> not the ubuntu-core ones though
[15:03] <ogra_> you have to manually edit the meta ...
[15:03] <kenvandine> ok
[15:03] <kenvandine> ogra_, thx
[15:03] <ogra_> if you look through fromer package versions you'll find examples
[15:03] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:03] <kenvandine> i know how to do it
[15:03] <kenvandine> just didn't want to leave some bzr branch out of date
[15:03] <kenvandine> for the overlays
[15:05] <Saviq> robru, uh oh, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/log/1636/status/3174/
[15:06] <Saviq> robru, also, the prereq warning list, could do with a link to the branch, not to the api
[15:06] <robru> Saviq: my my, so picky!
[15:06] <Saviq> robru, oh and yeah, it's warning about already merged prereqs, too!
[15:06] <Saviq> ;)
[15:07] <Saviq> robru, any idea what's wrong with the diffs?
[15:07] <robru> Saviq: all the more reason not to be fatal about it
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Saviq, https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1636 Generating diffs
[15:07] <Saviq> robru, sure, wfm
[15:08] <robru> Saviq: looks like it just failed to upload the diffs, I would assume transient network failure, should work this time I hope
[15:08] <Saviq> ack
[15:10] <robru> Saviq: as for the mismatch, that's a known race condition that should settle on the next status run. Most tickets update in 1 minute but your mega ticket takes 15 min which exacerbates the race
[15:12] <robru> Saviq: the bileto docs state you should only care about "version mismatch" if it's been in that state longer than 20 minutes
[15:15] <robru> I should just make it skip that check if the ticket was built too recently..
[15:15] <Saviq> robru, not sure what mismatch, but ok :)
[15:15] <Saviq> ah that one
[15:15] <Saviq> ack
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[15:28] <robru> Saviq: ok fixed the links to point at human-readable stuff rather than api endpoints.
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[15:28] <robru> Saviq: (will hit production in 12 minutes)
[15:30] <Mirv> kenvandine: yes, no, needs merged MP and then running update on apt source ubuntu-touch-meta
[15:31] <Mirv> kenvandine: I can do it although EOD for today
[15:31] <kenvandine> Mirv, i can do it
[15:31] <kenvandine> MP for xenial and vivid seeds?
[15:31] <kenvandine> or just yakkety?
[15:32] <Mirv> kenvandine: if you need a change for everything, yakkety is via MP + update, and xenial and vivid would be manual changes via the ubuntu-touch-meta sources from stable overlay
[15:32] <kenvandine> ok
[15:32] <Mirv> (so no update running since there is no seed to fetch vivid and xenial overlay changes from)
[15:32] <kenvandine> Mirv, that's what i'm doing... thx!
[15:32] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:32] <Mirv> kenvandine: yw
[15:32] <Saviq> robru, ack, tx
[15:33] <robru> Saviq: you're welcome!
[15:34] <robru> Mirv: what is the deal with seeds anyway? why are packages generated from a weird text file? why not just have standard debian/control like every other package?
[15:35] <kenvandine> robru, they use germinate to do it... not sure the history behind it
[15:35] <kenvandine> debian/control has ${germinate:Depends}
[15:37] <cjwatson> seeds are used to generate other things as well as the metapackages
[15:37] <cjwatson> having a common source keeps everything in sync
[15:38] <cjwatson> Task fields, image builds, deciding what goes in main, all sorts of stuff like that
[15:40] <robru> cjwatson: ah thanks, didn't realize other stuff was referencing that.
[15:40] <robru> agreed, common source file for different uses keeps things consistent
[15:41] <robru> i wonder how much work it would take to make those other things take a debian package as input instead... ;-)
[15:46] <cjwatson> let's just say non-trivial :)
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[16:39] <slangasek> ogra_, jibel: turning on the rc builds doesn't change the config for rc-proposed building/importing, and I didn't change this manually myself
[16:40] <ogra_> well, i didnt dig ... perhaps cron is just turned off ?
[16:40] <slangasek> looks like cron is turned off
[16:40] <slangasek> oh
[16:40] <slangasek> because sil2100's instructions say to turn it off
[16:41] <slangasek> jibel, ogra_: ok, running one now, sorry
[16:41] <ogra_> he tends to forget it too ... do the instructions say so ? :)
[16:41] <ogra_> "and now forget" :)
[16:42] <ogra_> (not like i have been any better though when i was in charge :) )
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[23:29] <robru> perfect timing for bileto to explode, webops signed off an hour ago
[23:43] <robru> Crisis averted, phew