[00:00] <snell> my computer freezes when i boot up, can someone help me out?
[00:00] <phoenixz> quassel just.. well, doesnt really let me post messages :P I can read but not write which kind of defeats the IRC idea. :) plus it takes HUGE amounts of memory, so I'm back to konversation which just works like a charm..
[00:01] <phoenixz> Amarok 2 also just... really.. why.... The Nero effect.. Supposedly, Amarok 2.1 is better, but is there a place wher I could find it?
[00:01] <dyn0myt3> Quassel works fine for me, but I prefer Xine  and Opera :)
[00:02] <phoenixz> dyn0myt3: kopete same story.. it just doesnt work, I can not make accounts.. so I am on pidgin which does noth ave a tray icon so when the window closes.. well, I have to kill the process to be able to see the contact list again..
[00:03] <dyn0myt3> kopete is ok for me. but pidgin is nice
[00:03] <robin0800> phoenixz: I like quassel and why can't you post?
[00:03] <phoenixz> dyn0myt3: pidgin looks way better yeah, but just for being kde, I'd prefer kopete.. if it would work that is, and it doesnt.
[00:04] <dyn0myt3> i have been trying to make my own widgets. for kopete or whatever but i'm not having much luck.
[00:04] <phoenixz> robin0800: good question! I'd like to know that too, now Im on kdde3.5 konversation, but at least it works.. I'd prefer quassel but it just doesnt work.. takes 2 minutes to join a channel (not kidding) and I can write a messgage, it sends, but it never shows in the channels..
[00:04] <dyn0myt3> i've installed compiz, qt, designer and now samba.
[00:04] <dyn0myt3> hm superkaramba i meant
[00:05] <phoenixz> ow, and quanta is also WAY messed up
[00:07] <phoenixz> I can't open a file without seeing error messges about .tag files..
[00:07] <juxbox> my audio doesn't work what should i do?
[00:08] <robin0800> phoenixz: you were posting in the chanel (buffer view) weren't you?
[00:08] <phoenixz> robin0800: buffer view? sorry, don't understand
[00:09] <phoenixz> robin0800: I was writing in the same channels as in konversation.. various channels just to test it.. but nothing..
[00:09] <phoenixz> Joining a channel takes 2 minutes, probably more
[00:09] <phoenixz> either by /join #channel
[00:09] <phoenixz> or when a channel is in the list, and I double click to join it.. nothing happens.. then like 2-3 minutes later, hurray, its there!
[00:10] <juxbox> any ideas?
[00:10] <phoenixz> robin0800: Be it just that I can not post :P
[00:10] <ubuntu> hi, i'm back...
[00:10] <winterelf> ...
[00:10] <phoenixz> crap.. both pidgin and kopete don;t let me login to google talk..
[00:11] <superwad> i'm no longer receiving the update notifications when new packages are available.  I have to manually update my repositories and run a package manager (synaptic, update manager, etc).  any idea why this would be?
[00:11] <phoenixz> winterelf: welcome back then?
[00:11] <winterelf> it's winterelf
[00:11] <phoenixz> its you!
[00:11] <ign0ramus> winterelf, huzzah!
[00:12] <ign0ramus> winterelf, what kernel are you running? ('uname -r')
[00:12] <silentstri16_> is there a sweet of tools for creating prebuillt enviroments?
[00:12] <robin0800> phoenixz: There are two views in Quassel one called buffer view the other called Chat monitor two of the most confusing names ever You need buffer View
[00:12] <winterelf> ign0ramus: it's winterelf... can u tell me what to do now?
[00:13] <ign0ramus> winterelf, i just told you... (i'm wondering if its an acpi error in the kernel)... do "uname -r"
[00:17] <phoenixz> robin0800: well, I see the text scrolling by and below that there is a white area where I can type text.. then when I press enter it dissappears, just like in konversation.. If there is a monitor thing, wherre you can not write.. then why can I write anyway?
[00:20] <winterelf> some1?
[00:20] <robin0800> phoenixz: And you have you idendity tothe left hand side?
[00:21] <phoenixz> robin0800: yes
[00:21] <phoenixz> well
[00:22] <phoenixz> after about 2-3 minutes
[00:22] <phoenixz> while I don't have it, I cant write eiter, the white area is greyed out..
[00:22] <juxbox> how can i make my sound driver detected?
[00:23] <robin0800> phoenixz: Not sure you may have to be registered on freenode
[00:32] <Cerrdor> Sysinfo for 'Torvaldsland': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2), CPU: MobileIntel(R)Celeron(R)CPU1.50GHz at 1495 MHz (2991 bogomips), HD: 6/17GB, RAM: 244/248MB, 108 proc's, 6.29h up
[00:35] <dyn0myt3> I can not login to Console
[00:36] <robinr> dyn0myt3: not as root
[00:37] <ner0x> How do I install Curses::UI for perl/
[00:37] <dyn0myt3> i login to start X, but at the bottom of my screen is the menu to login to console but my screens just turns black  for a second then returns me to the login prompt
[00:39] <Cerrdor> dyn0myt3: did you try hitting escape during boot to log into recovery?
[00:39] <dyn0myt3> no
[00:39] <dyn0myt3> i dont need recovery ?
[00:39] <Cerrdor> I would try that since it has an option to fix xserver
[00:40] <dyn0myt3> xserver seems ok it just wont take me to Console
[00:40] <Cerrdor> even if you try Alt+F2?
[00:41] <dyn0myt3> from inside kde? no. i didnt try it before i logged in
[00:42] <juxbox> any ideas on how to fix the sound?
[00:42] <Cerrdor> juxbox: whats the issue?
[00:42] <Valkyrie> hi guys
[00:42] <juxbox> Cerrdor: nothing with audio works
[00:42] <dyn0myt3> hi
[00:42] <Cerrdor> howdy Valkyrie
[00:42] <Valkyrie> i need a bit of help... im running ubuntu
[00:43] <Cerrdor> juxbox: did you open system settings and configure the audio output?
[00:43] <juxbox> yes, but still doesn't work
[00:43] <Cerrdor> juxbox: you on a lappy or desktop?
[00:44] <juxbox> Cerrdor: labtop
[00:44] <Cerrdor> with what soundcard?
[00:44] <ryanakca> juxbox: So it isn't just flash anymore?
[00:45] <Reaper> haha sweet I have dual booted Windows 7 and Kubuntu 9.04 and I am playing my music from the Windows partition
[00:45] <juxbox> ryanakca: what do you mean flash?
[00:45] <juxbox> Cerrdor: i'm not very sure, how can i make sure?
[00:46] <ryanakca> juxbox: Ah, no, you were asking about mplayer earlier, sorry, I thought you were the guy asking about how to get sound to work under flash
[00:46] <ryanakca> juxbox: in Konsole, type in: lspci | grep Audio
[00:46] <Reaper> Amarok was weird and if anyone else is having the same problem of Amarok not playing music files upon a fresh installation installing libxine plugins (all of them I'm not sure which one did it :p) solved it
[00:47] <ign0ramus> !gutsy
[00:47] <Cerrdor> need to restart
[00:47] <ign0ramus> !upgrade
[00:47] <Reaper> :p that gave me a little laugh seeing "Ubottu"
[00:47] <juxbox> ryanakca: nothing shows in there
[00:48] <ryanakca> juxbox: Hmmm. Odd. Can you pastebin ``lspci -nnvv'' please?
[00:49] <juxbox> ryanakca: http://pastebin.ca/S:1427996
[00:50] <nightdrever> how do i join a ubuntu room?
[00:50] <juxbox> nightdrever: type /join #ubuntu
[00:50] <nightdrever> thanks
[00:50] <dwidmann> nightdrever: or /j for short
[00:51] <juxbox> ryanakca: but there's a hardware info icon here saying that it's HDA ATI and HDA intel
[00:51] <ryanakca> juxbox: Ah, ... ``lspcia | grep Audio'' isn't the same as ``lspci | grep audio'', it's case sensitive. Anyways, I saw what I wanted...  Your sound card: ATI Technologies Inc R700 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4000 Series]
[00:52] <juxbox> ryanakca: let me restart and see because i just killed all audio processes and restarted them,
[00:52] <ryanakca> juxbox: You also have an Intel Corporation 82701I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)... I'm guessing you have two speaker ports on the laptop?
[00:52] <diego> hola!
[00:52] <juxbox> ryanakca: yes
[00:52] <ryanakca> or something of the sort?
[00:53] <Guest86681> hola?
[00:53] <dyn0myt3> when i go into the Console, it acts like im holding down the keys
[00:53] <ryanakca> juxbox: did you try raising the volume? try ``alsamixer'', it has always worked for me. It's CLI though.
[00:53] <dwidmann> ryanakca: the ATI one would be for hdmi stuff
[00:53] <Guest86681> alguien sabe programar en java????????
[00:53] <ryanakca> dwidmann: Ah
[00:54] <ryanakca> Ah, he's gone. *wonders if juxbox had the snd-hda-intel modules loaded*
[00:54] <Reaper> this is a little  entertaining watching people come with problems and have them be solved :p
[00:54] <Reaper> just a little tiny bit
[00:55] <Guest86681> alguien habla mi idioma?
[00:55] <dyn0myt3> amazing eh
[00:55] <dwidmann> Reaper: the entertainment value goes up when you're the one presenting the solutions :)
[00:56] <Reaper> dwidmann: Oh surely it does, mm but my knowledge of the subject is usually not good enough
[00:56] <Reaper> perhaps one will come in with a problem I understand
[00:57] <dwidmann> Reaper: probably
[00:57] <juxbox> i restarted  and amarok was notifying me that it needs to install some updates, so it's updating now and i'll see, however mplayer too doesn't play sound, neither system sound!!
[00:58] <Reaper> :p if it were only Amarok and other music players I would know the problem
[00:58] <dyn0myt3> i had my volume down for a hour trying to figure out why i had no sound.
[00:58] <Reaper> juxbox: check if you have the libxine packages?
[00:58] <Reaper> err did you*
[00:58] <Reaper> :p
[00:59] <Reaper> I found out pretty quickly what was wrong with Amarok
[00:59] <juxbox> i was testing the pulseaudio and it got me a notification that pulseaudio found no audio fail
[00:59] <juxbox> another forum online saying that pulseaudio should be replaced with alsa, but not sure how to do that, any ideas?
[01:00] <Reaper> XD I don't even know what pulseaudio is
[01:00] <dyn0myt3> try alsa config, i think it will get you to the setup
[01:01] <juxbox> Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume}
[01:03] <Reaper> hmm, there's a package that can be downloaded in order to view power point presentations and it requires Wine
[01:08] <dwidmann> Reaper: can't ooimpress do it?
[01:08] <Reaper> Yeah I think it can
[01:08] <juxbox> any ideas here?
[01:09] <Reaper> I just noticed that when I searched for Wine in it
[01:09] <Reaper> I plan on installing Steam through Wine
[01:09] <Reaper> so I can play Garrysmod and CounterStrike: Source ;p
[01:17] <StR|Sangreal> hello
[01:17] <StR|Sangreal> i have a centrino1duo notebook with kubuntu jaunty amd64
[01:17] <StR|Sangreal> i have an integrated vga webcam an i
[01:18] <StR|Sangreal> would like to know how to take photos with it
[01:22] <Reaper> hmm nobody knows :p
[01:22] <StR|Sangreal> ah
[01:22]  * StR|Sangreal follows the Reaper
[01:22] <Reaper> o_o
[01:23] <Being_Tsukasa> im getting poor video quality compared to watching the same video on vista, what can i do to improve this?
[01:24] <DeCordoba> hi?
[01:24] <DeCordoba> anyone can help me?
[01:24] <Reaper> Being_Tsukasa: do you mean the video is not playing as well or that it is actually a lower quality
[01:24] <galvanize> How do I view system hardware?
[01:24] <Reaper> I can hear you DeCordoba
[01:24] <StR|Sangreal> Reaper: *Follow the Reaper* is a heavy metal album ;)
[01:24] <DeCordoba> thanks dude
[01:24] <DeCordoba> well
[01:25] <Being_Tsukasa> its choppy
[01:25] <Reaper> haha ok StR| Sangreal
[01:25] <StR|Sangreal> is there an widespread opensource alternative to .gif compression?
[01:27] <Being_Tsukasa> the video is choppy when i am playing it
[01:27] <superwad> i'm no longer receiving the update notifications when new packages are available.  I have to manually update my repositories and run a package manager (synaptic, update manager, etc).  any idea why this would be?
[01:28] <Being_Tsukasa> i am using a geforce 8600m
[01:28] <StR|Sangreal> i experience the same, the reason is the proxy server in my case
[01:28] <Being_Tsukasa> is there a driver update i should get?
[01:28] <Reaper> superwad: you may have changed a setting
[01:28] <superwad> Reaper: know where that setting might be?
[01:29] <Reaper> maybe in system settings or synaptic settings
[01:29] <StR|Sangreal> $ export proxy="http://your.proxy.server:port"
[01:32] <StR|Sangreal> !bye | All
[01:33] <Reaper> I <3 Ubottu's name :p
[01:33] <StR|Sangreal> !love
[01:34] <Reaper> XD
[01:34] <Reaper> !Kubuntu
[01:34] <Reaper> !Ubuntu
[01:34] <StR|Sangreal> !<3
[01:34] <Reaper> !Linux
[01:34] <StR|Sangreal> !bot
[01:34] <Reaper> !kernel
[01:34] <rmrfslash> !fglrx
[01:35] <Reaper> !glxgears
[01:35] <StR|Sangreal> flgrx suxx
[01:35] <rmrfslash> yeah.
[01:35] <rmrfslash> I just installed catalyst 9.5
[01:35] <rmrfslash> resume is still broke as a joke
[01:35] <StR|Sangreal> ***ATI Radeon Mobility X1450 SUXXXL HEAVILY***
[01:36] <rmrfslash> ATI was the worst decision I ever made
[01:36] <draik> Hello everyone. How do I rip CD audio with k3b? It keeps on failing.  Everything on this crappy laptop works except fglrx
[01:38] <rmrfslash> I turn on opengl compositing and everything dies
[01:38] <rmrfslash> well... just resume actually. Which is the one thing I need
[01:39] <StR|Sangreal> i would expect that fglrx collides with your former radeonhd driver?
[01:39] <StR|Sangreal> !nightwish
[01:39] <rmrfslash> yeah I need to ununstall fglrx to use radeonhd
[01:39] <draik> !convert
[01:39] <StR|Sangreal> just purge it like sudo apt-get remove fglrx --purge
[01:39] <draik> !ogg
[01:40] <StR|Sangreal> !OMG
[01:40] <rmrfslash> I installed from the ATI package
[01:40] <Rainzz> hello guys! i'm a gnome user could anyone tell me what`s good in KDE?
[01:40] <rmrfslash> not sure yet how to delete it
[01:40] <StR|Sangreal> install kubuntu-desktop and try yourself!
[01:40] <psytux> ciao a tutti!!!
[01:41] <StR|Sangreal> kde is nice, opaque, glassy, consistend and sweet, without KWin compositing even pretty stable... and plasma workspace has made nice advancements recently
[01:41] <StR|Sangreal> !kde
[01:42] <StR|Sangreal> !kde4
[01:42] <StR|Sangreal> !farewell | All
[01:42] <StR|Sangreal> !bye
[02:01] <snell> how do i view version details of a program via command line?
[02:02] <Matisse> Hi
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> snell: lbs_release -a
[02:02] <Admiral_Chicago> err sorry snell .... read that wrong
[02:02] <Matisse> At booting kdm starts with a higher resolution. If I then restart the x-server the right resolution is used. What can I do?
[02:03] <Admiral_Chicago> umm I think its apt-cache show <package>
[02:03] <genii> perhaps apt-cache policy <name>
[02:03] <snell> thats okay i got it
[02:04] <Matisse> 2. Problem: "Claws Mail" sucks at spell correction and since version 3.6 it used enchant instead of aspell for that. The problem seems to be connected, as there are nearly no result when  apt-cache searching for "enchant".
[02:05] <Matisse> Can someone please jostle in the direction "problem(s) solved"?
[02:05] <Matisse> *jostle me
[02:09] <genii> !info libenchant1c2a
[02:15] <Matisse> right, is installed (and dependencies would care about that)
[02:19] <yousef_> Does anyone know when Jaunty with KDE3 will be released?
[02:22] <silentstri16_> is it just me or is that back  tracking
[02:22] <silentstri16_> i mean, isnt that reversing progress?
[02:22] <Matisse> yousef_,  seems to be already release, as google says   https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[02:22] <Matisse> silentstri16_, no, just for shy people :)
[02:22] <yousef_> oh
[02:23] <silentstri16_> shy people wha?
[02:23] <yousef_> really?
[02:23] <yousef_> its not a beta?
[02:23] <Matisse> yousef_, don't know, google?
[02:23] <Matisse> I won't read the whole linked page for you
[02:24] <Matisse> silentstri16_, kidding...
[02:24] <silentstri16_> lol.
[02:25] <yousef_> oh ok
[02:26] <yousef_> too complicated to upgrade, i'll stick with 8.04 for now
[02:29] <dakstar> looking for osx leopard image any help???!
[02:29] <Reaper> http://www.thepiratebay.com/ lol
[02:30] <dakstar> looking for osx leopard image any help???!
[02:30] <Reaper> Why would you WANT leopard dakstar?!
[02:31] <dakstar> trying to setup a virtual box to build iphone apps
[02:31] <dakstar> don't wanna pay 130$ for the pOS
[02:31] <Reaper> Oh actually emulating Mac runs very poorly and in vmWare but not SunxVM
[02:32] <dakstar> running Sun 2.2.2
[02:32] <dakstar> not looking for performance just emulation
[02:32] <Reaper> I've heard of it not working at all or just too slow
[02:32] <Reaper> but you can find a torrent for it
[02:33] <dakstar> been looking for one.. only found partial
[02:33] <dakstar> any suggestions?
[02:33] <dakstar> astalavista.com had nada
[02:33] <Reaper> well I would just do a search on thepiratebay.org
[02:33] <Pici> !piracy
[02:33] <Reaper> http://www.thepiratebay.org/
[02:34] <Pici> please stop
[02:34] <Reaper> Haha I mean if I wanted to find an illegal copy
[02:34] <dakstar> l*ter.. thnks for the help..
[02:38] <genii> matisse : enchant dictionary usage order appears to be specified in /usr/share/enchant/enchant.ordering
[02:41] <Matisse> At booting kdm starts with a higher resolution. If I then restart the x-server the right resolution is used. What can I do?
[02:43] <sithlord48> has any one reported the forum is "service unavailable"
[02:44] <Matisse> Has anyone seen Jesus today?
[02:47] <genii> matisse : enchant dictionary usage order appears to be specified in /usr/share/enchant/enchant.ordering   You could specify the aspell first (or whichever checker you prefer to use first)
[02:48] <sithlord48> the forum is down again .... "service unavailable"  message again
[02:50] <Matisse> Someone should tell it someone else
[02:51] <sithlord48> i am not sure who that person is but they need to know so it can be fixed..
[02:53] <Matisse> genii, well, this is b***sh*t... claws made me believe the dictionary was already installed... but when I changed the language I couldn't change back - because it isn't installed.
[02:53] <Matisse> genii, thanks for pushing into the direction
[02:53] <genii> Matisse: np
[02:58] <brad__> anyone else notice ktorrent being slow ?
[02:59] <sithlord48> as in the program or you download speed?
[02:59] <brad__> download speed
[02:59] <genii> sithlord48: ubuntuforums.org seems to be loading fine here. You have some specific page is misbehaving?
[03:00] <brad__> is there a good test torrent ?
[03:00] <sithlord48> genii, kubuntuforums.net
[03:00] <Matisse> brad__, kubuntu iso maybe?
[03:01] <Matisse> bye
[03:03] <ner0x> kubuntu is pretty good so far, I'm impressed.
[03:05] <justin__> so hey do yall know of any good programs for kubuntu?
[03:05] <brad__> I'm liking this kde 4
[03:06] <sithlord48> kde4 is very nice :) using the 4.3 beta right now its nice
[03:07] <brad__> 4.2.3, but tell me about 4.3
[03:07] <brad__> btw debian updates beat windows updates anyday
[03:07] <sithlord48> its like 4.2.3 but newer... you get a few new things.. hold on a sec i got the link round here somewhere
[03:08] <sithlord48> brad__, http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.3-beta1.php
[03:14] <draik> How do I get an output of the date and time the following format: MMDDYYYYHHMM
[03:14] <draik> 2 for month, 2 for day, 4 for year, 2 for hour and 2 for minutes
[03:18] <genii> draik: date +%m%d%Y%H%M
[03:19] <Cerrdor> can anyone recommend a good personal finance program?
[03:20] <draik> genii: Thank you so much.
[03:20] <genii> draik: You're welcome
[03:22] <Cerrdor> can anyone recommend a good personal finance program?
[03:22] <Cerrdor> for tracking family income?
[03:22] <brad__> gnucash
[03:22] <sithlord48> you could try kmymoney too
[03:22] <Cerrdor> thats the one
[03:22] <Cerrdor> I forgot the name thanks
[03:23] <Cerrdor> kmymoney?
[03:23] <Cerrdor> whats it like?
[03:23] <brad__> it's a program for kde that is like my money
[03:23] <gustavo> YO HABLO ESPAÑOL
[03:23] <sithlord48> http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[03:23] <Cerrdor> anyone using 9.04 in here yet?
[03:24] <mdshaw89> yep
[03:24] <sithlord48> sure am
[03:24] <mdshaw89> AMD64 version
[03:24] <sithlord48> me too lol
[03:24] <brad__> I might be
[03:25] <Cerrdor> I like it
[03:25] <brad__> I am
[03:25] <brad__> AMD64
[03:25] <mdshaw89> I don't know that I would jump to 9.04 again if I had to do it over.
[03:25] <Cerrdor> I really like the images more than intrepid
[03:25] <sithlord48> my battery life on my laptop improved quite a bit when i upgraded it to 9.04
[03:25] <Cerrdor> Sysinfo for 'Torvaldsland': Linux 2.6.27-7-generic running KDE 4.2.2 (KDE 4.2.2), CPU: MobileIntel(R)Celeron(R)CPU1.50GHz at 1495 MHz (2991 bogomips), HD: 6/17GB, RAM: 245/248MB, 102 proc's, 2.35h up
[03:25] <brad__> I need to uninstall konquer and synlink firefox
[03:26] <draik> How do I convert ogg to mp3?
[03:26] <mdshaw89> I'm not an eye candy fan and I've found missing dependencies on some packages, i.e. nvidia driver, k9copy
[03:27] <Cerrdor> draik: use easytag its super simple
[03:27] <draik> Cerrdor: Thanks. I'll try that
[03:28] <brad__> k, konquor is dead
[03:28] <sithlord48> yea my "upgrade" to kde 4.3beta was full on installing dependencies and conflicting packages
[03:29] <mdshaw89> sorry I would rather have konquerer than dolphin - I don't understand the push
[03:29] <Shadoze> Konqueror is already on your system..
[03:30] <CharlyGears> hello, anyone in spanish assistance ?
[03:30] <Pici> !es | CharlyGears
[03:30] <mdshaw89> draik: try http://www.linuxweblog.com/convert-ogg-to-mp3
[03:31] <mdshaw89> Shadoze: yes - I know but if I try to remove dolphin there are dependency it looks like I will break
[03:33] <sithlord48> mdshaw89, are you trying to get konqurer as default file manager ?
[03:33] <Nikke> can i get auto indent in kate?
[03:33] <mdshaw89> yeah without braekking everything
[03:34] <sithlord48> mdshaw89, can you tell me what version of kubuntu your using ?
[03:34] <mdshaw89> 9.04
[03:34] <mdshaw89> amd64 version
[03:34] <draik> mdshaw89: Thanks. Checking it out now.
[03:34] <sithlord48> mdshaw89, ok its not all that hard, go to system settings
[03:34] <mdshaw89> Linux galactica 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:35] <mdshaw89> LOL
[03:35] <Shadoze> @ Nikke yes i believe so
[03:35] <mdshaw89> sorry - it just everytime I use system settings it like rolling the dice - sometimes it seems to work - ;)
[03:36] <sithlord48> mdshaw89, after system settings you want to go to "Default Applications"
[03:36] <Shadoze> I looked at konquerors settings, nothing related to what you want there
[03:37] <Shadoze> And sith's right theres a file manager option, where kde CAN be selected
[03:37] <mdshaw89> okay - I changed the file manager - I'll see if I can remove dolphin
[03:37] <Shadoze> Kudos to him
[03:37] <sithlord48> be sure to click apply :)
[03:37] <sithlord48> if you had 8.04/8.10 its a bit tricker but can also be done
[03:38] <Shadoze> & md what's the harm in keeping dolphin or are you trying to go for perfection?
[03:38] <mdshaw89> not sure why u need to do that - I should be able to remove dolphin and it delafult to konqueror - like I could in Gutsy
[03:38] <sithlord48> you don't want to remove dolphin
[03:38] <Shadoze> A few apps may wish to use dolphins
[03:38] <Shadoze> *dolphin even
[03:39] <Shadoze> So you may run inro problems down the line
[03:39] <sithlord48> including if i am not mistaken konqurer
[03:39] <Gio_Linux> Good morning.
[03:39] <mdshaw89> I prefer not to keep the cruft around - I mean if I wanted loads of extra crap I did not want I would run Windoze
[03:39] <Shadoze> *Vista ;)
[03:40] <mdshaw89> yep - kind of figured that somethings force the use of dolphin - too bad
[03:40] <Shadoze> Maybe you can tell those applications to use konq too?
[03:41] <mdshaw89> unfortunately it seems like a lot of Linux distros are getting to be the same way - it used to be rampant if you used Gnome
[03:42] <Shadoze> Gnome hides alot of the advanced settings in effort to keep it as simple as possible
[03:42] <Shadoze> Kde 4.*.* is still maturing though
[03:42] <Shadoze> It will take time, but it will get very very very polished
[03:43] <sithlord48> if you ran the 4.0 packages, you will know how far it as come already
[03:43] <mdshaw89> Shadoze: hopefully
[03:43] <Shadoze> Put it this way
[03:43] <Shadoze> Kde 3.0 was brand new in the day
[03:44] <Shadoze> Quite a few bugs, needed ironing alot
[03:44] <Shadoze> Look at kde 3.5
[03:44] <Shadoze> As stable and polished as anything
[03:44] <Shadoze> Same will happen with the 4 series
[03:44]  * genii holds out for 4.5
[03:44] <Shadoze> It just takes time
[03:44] <mdshaw89> well I was running 3.5 - I must say I'm on Linus side a bit - but I'm still stickling with Kubuntu until I hit the PMO point - ;)
[03:45] <Shadoze> The longer you stick with it, the more you'll like it as it'l get more mature and polished
[03:45] <Shadoze> I think by 4.5 kde is going to be amazing
[03:45] <sithlord48> i have the beta for 4.3 on my computer right now on this computer, well im using it and it is running just as good as 4.2.3 did.
[03:46] <Shadoze> I'm on 4.2.3
[03:46] <mdshaw89> well - keep in mind I don't run compiz/beryl - and hate the extra eye candy - a waste of CPU cycles IMO
[03:46] <Shadoze> Too many important things to try betas atm
[03:46] <Shadoze> Stability is a big thing
[03:46] <rysh> And Kde 4.5.10 will simply Rock
[03:46] <javitox> Speak spannish?
[03:46] <Shadoze> True, i run a small bit of compiz
[03:46] <mdshaw89> its seems the further things go along the more glitz the developers add
[03:47] <Shadoze> Not even the cube :) It stops getting awesome after an hour
[03:47] <sithlord48> lol i have a few machines so stability is only important on the one w/ my data :)
[03:47] <Shadoze> Thats true md but think of it this way, what do new people prefere, plain old grey and black styles or fancy bleeding edge styles
[03:48] <sithlord48> i use the cube to manage several computers at once via krdc or nx.
[03:48] <Shadoze> Take Windows Vista as an example, Vista means looks, one of the things they focused on alot was the look of it
[03:48] <mdshaw89> sorry - my main concern for video is smooth streaming playback at fullscreen - kids like Hulu, etc.  and unfortunately that is my specific hell
[03:49] <Shadoze> They did a pretty good job, it looks alright, unfortunatly to be honest it isn't really a great or beneficail operating system
[03:49] <sithlord48> do lots of people have hulu issues ? i have never been there..
[03:49] <Shadoze> Not from america ;)
[03:49] <Shadoze> Can't even get onto it
[03:49] <Shadoze> And cba to bypass it with proxy
[03:49] <javitox> ubuntu channel in Spanish?
[03:50] <sithlord48> javitox, #ubuntu-es
[03:50] <javitox> sithlord48: Tank
[03:50] <Shadoze> Hell it's creeping up to 4am
[03:50] <Shadoze> Time to go soon ;)
[03:50] <mdshaw89> well - let's just say I had a Geforce 2 on on Gutsy 7.10 - it worked great - upgraded to a Geforce 4 and Hardy then Jaunty and not fullscreen without issues
[03:51] <sithlord48> lol
[03:51] <mdshaw89> Hulu works great from the US - some people I've heard can access via VPN outside of US
[03:51] <sithlord48> i have lots of geforce cards lying around all diffrent kinds, the only one that works correctly is the old agp2x geforce2
[03:52] <mdshaw89> dooooooh!
[03:52] <Shadoze> *cougs* hotspot shield*
[03:52] <mdshaw89> I just gave the Geforce 2 away
[03:52] <Shadoze> Hotspot Shield was made to bypass the us only hulu thingy
[03:53] <mdshaw89> by the Geforce 2 would not do "Beyond The Red Line" for me anymore - the Geforce 4 does
[03:53] <Shadoze> Anyone know how to get msxml working in Wine?
[03:53] <sithlord48> the other comptuer (running ubuntu 9.04) has that geforce 2 in it (compiz even works if i want)
[03:53] <sithlord48> shadoze, you can get it working w/ winetricks
[03:53] <Shadoze> Awesome i'm determined to see if of 2010 works in wine
[03:54] <Shadoze> I use openoffice for almost everything just Ms Access is missional critical to me at the moment
[03:54] <sithlord48> shadoze, i have not tried to install msxml but winetricks has the option to
[03:54] <Shadoze> And ms access 2003 & 2007 Does not work
[03:54] <sithlord48> i use wine mostly for games. and game moding tools
[03:55] <Shadoze> Winetricks, cheers forgot about that
[03:55] <mdshaw89> gotta go - catch everyone l8r
[03:55] <sithlord48> oh and i need quarkexpress for work cause my boss loves it and won't switch to something else and there is no linux version or program to handle its files
[03:56] <Shadoze> :) Ive never used it before
[03:56] <sithlord48> shadoze, geeze i guess i am helping everyone tonight lol
[03:56] <Shadoze> Heh indeed you are i would be able to do a bit more just its almost 4am
[03:57] <draik> exit
[03:57] <Shadoze> Wine is giving me a headace
[03:57] <sithlord48> whats the matter w/ your wine, ?
[03:57] <Shadoze> Everytime a wine related application loads the scren flashes till its loaded
[03:58] <Shadoze> *screen
[03:58] <Shadoze> Not pleasent atall
[03:58] <sithlord48> when a wine app uses "directX" when that app quits it kills plasma and i come back to a nice black screen w/ a mouse pointer
[03:59] <Shadoze> Heh that does not happen to me
[03:59] <bug> hii
[03:59] <sithlord48> lucky for me i can still get krunner w/ alt+f2 and run plasma again..
[03:59] <Shadoze> I was playing left 4 dead earlier on wine, and it ALMOST runs perfect
[03:59] <sithlord48> yea i have ati gfx too,,,,,
[03:59] <Shadoze> Nvidia geforece 8500 here
[04:00] <Shadoze> The only problem
[04:00] <Shadoze> my resolution is 1024 x 768
[04:00] <Shadoze> i can only play the game at 800 x 600 or less
[04:00] <Shadoze> and if i choose 1024 x 768, the game cant overlap the panel and it becomes a bit of a mess
[04:00] <bug> cud sumone help me with bit of info?
[04:01] <sithlord48> mine is 1680*1050 and the ati driver for linux does not support 16 bit either... its getting better thou
[04:01] <sithlord48> bug, depends on what you kind of info
[04:01] <Shadoze> Damn
[04:01] <Shadoze> msxml
[04:01] <bug> i hawe a prob with Ubuntu
[04:01] <Shadoze> Invalid Command Line paremetres
[04:01] <sithlord48> ok go on
[04:01] <sithlord48> shadoze , w/ wine tricks ?
[04:02] <Shadoze> Yes, it's using win installer 2.0 also
[04:02] <bug> if i download original games from add rem prog. the games keep swiching off from full screen
[04:02] <Shadoze> Everything that involves an msi installer crashes at invalid command line paremetres
[04:02] <sithlord48> there is also msxml3 4 5 6  as well
[04:02] <sithlord48> wait no 5
[04:03] <bug> sory a bout my bad eng
[04:03] <sithlord48> and your using ubuntu ?
[04:04] <Shadoze> Any ideas on what package is the win installer service?
[04:04] <bug> jeah Ubuntu 9.04
[04:04] <sithlord48> bug, you might find better help in #ubuntu
[04:04] <bug> sory and thanks
[04:05] <sithlord48> shadoze, msi2 ?
[04:05] <Shadoze> msi2 was a success but still invalid command line paremtres
[04:06] <sithlord48> shdoze, if you have the new version you can run ./winetricks for a gui so you can see the packages
[04:06] <sithlord48> when do you get that ?
[04:07] <Shadoze> Ill screenie for you, the winetricks command is fine, its after
[04:10] <Shadoze> there
[04:10] <Shadoze> http://i43.tinypic.com/33ua8fc.jpg
[04:10] <Shadoze> you'll see waht i mean there
[04:11] <Shadoze> that happens as soon as i invoke ./winetricks msxml6
[04:11] <Shadoze> As soon as it runes the file, that happens ;)
[04:11] <Shadoze> *runs
[04:11] <sithlord48> weird
[04:12] <sithlord48> when did this start?
[04:12] <Shadoze> Since i first tried a msi windows installer service >.<
[04:12] <Shadoze> If it's relivent, i'm using Wine 1.2.1
[04:13] <sithlord48> i have 1.1.21 i don't seam to have issues...
[04:13] <Shadoze> You lucky... :P Lol j/k
[04:14] <Shadoze> Oh well too tired to do anything about it now i'll deal with it later, might see you on then :)
[04:14] <sithlord48> well not that issues w/ msi packages ne way
[04:14] <sithlord48> yea maybe i need to get to sleep my self.
[04:14] <Shadoze> I'll have a more through look when i wake up after eating
[04:15] <Shadoze> that's when were all at our peaks :)
[04:15] <galvanize> Where can I see my system hardware?
[04:15] <sithlord48> gl
[04:15] <Shadoze> And y spelling will imporve, hah
[04:15] <Shadoze> *my
[04:15] <Shadoze> gah i give up lol
[04:15] <Shadoze> G'night ;)
[04:15] <sithlord48> yea night
[04:15] <bug> pff
[04:34] <ultratek> i cant start firefox
[04:35] <TweakedEh> ultratke: what does it say?
[04:35] <ultratek> the spinner pops up and nothing happens and if i run gksudo firefox i get this
[04:36] <ultratek> nm
[04:36] <ultratek> the last
[04:37] <ultratek> ?
[04:38] <genii> ultratek: Did you try running it with extensions disabled? eg:  firefox -safe-mode
[04:39] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m3af16c4
[04:39] <ultratek> i get that
[04:40] <contrast> greets, everyone
[04:41] <ultratek> i had done a complete removal of firefox through synaptic
[04:42] <ultratek> and a rm -rf /opt/firefox yesterday
[04:42] <genii> ultratek: does: apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0       indicate this package is installed? The ubuntu packages site indicates the missing file belongs to this package
[04:43] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m7fffd24c
[04:46] <genii> ultratek: If after:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0                you try again: firefox -safe-mode                  Same result as before?
[04:47] <contrast> anyone know where i might find an oo.o template for a resume cover page?
[04:47] <ultratek> same thing
[04:47] <genii> ultratek: Are you on a 32 or 64 bit system?
[04:47] <ultratek> 64bit
[04:47] <contrast> genii: no, that's just for showing what versions are available and which one, if any, are installed
[04:48] <genii> contrast: Yes. I know. Since his pastebin indicated firefox was missing a file belonging to that package, it is good to know whether the system believes that package is installed or now.
[04:49] <genii> *or not
[04:49] <contrast> genii: whoops, my mistake. didn't see his name at the beginning of the message at first
[04:50] <genii> ultratek: On 64 bit systems, the missing file is supplied by package ia32-libs. So I suggest to: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ia32-libs           and then again with the: firefox -safe-mode
[04:52] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m9ca4816
[04:52] <ultratek> but safemode came up
[04:52] <genii> ultratek: Well, a step forward at least
[04:53] <ultratek> i disabled and reset everything
[04:53] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m7171adcd
[04:55] <genii> ultratek: It cae up in safe mode but when in regular mode you got this "X Window System" error?
[04:55] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m7fe4e0ac
[04:55] <ultratek> no just running safemode cmd
[04:56] <ultratek> the last pastebin is all the errors hopefully
[04:57] <genii> ultratek: Hm. It's past my ability to diagnose those ones. Although it appears to be some 64bit vs 32bit library thing.
[04:57] <ultratek> hmm
[04:57] <ultratek> kool thanks for you help
[04:57] <genii> ultratek: np
[04:57] <ultratek> the browser does come up now in regular mode but does not load anything in the page
[04:58] <genii> ultratek: Likely since you wiped out it's default settings earlier from /opt :)
[04:58] <ultratek> yea
[04:58] <genii> ultratek: You can try of course same idea of the --reinstall   but for firefox. It should replenish those, hopefully
[04:59] <ultratek> didnt work
[05:00] <genii> ultratek: When it comes to blank page, if you put a url in does it go there? (google or anything)
[05:00] <ultratek> could it be that i have konquerer installled
[05:00] <ultratek> no
[05:00] <genii> ultratek: No, the browsers should not care what other ones are on the system
[05:02] <genii> ultratek: Earlier you reported you tried something like "gksudo" with it (which you shouldn't do from in kubuntu). Did you also at some point try "sudo" ? Because this would have screwed up some permissions for it
[05:02] <ultratek> it all went wrong when i did sudo firefox
[05:03] <ultratek> hoping i could login as root into swat
[05:03] <genii> ultratek: If you use sudo with graphical apps, that will definitely screw things up.
[05:03] <daniel010101> hi
[05:04] <ultratek> is there anything else i could restore to get it to work maybe?
[05:04] <genii> ultratek: If your username is for instance "joe"... I would suggest to do:  sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe           (substitute accordingly)
[05:06] <ultratek> whats that do?
[05:06] <ultratek> tells me permission denied
[05:06] <genii> ultratek: That will change any modified files which got changed by using "sudo firefox" back to the owner
[05:07] <genii> ultratek: sudo chown -R joe:joe /home/joe
[05:07] <genii> ultratek: But use the name you login with there
[05:07] <ultratek> tells me permission denied
[05:07] <genii> fred, george, susie, whatever
[05:08] <genii> ultratek: If you do: sudo ls                                       what does it say?
[05:08] <ultratek> chown: cannot access `/home/ultratek/.gvfs': Permission denied
[05:09] <genii> Ah, so one particular dir then
[05:10] <ultratek> ?
[05:10] <genii> ultratek: Did you run any other graphical things using "sudo" ?
[05:10] <ultratek> no
[05:12] <genii> ultratek: If just firefox, then should be able to own just it's dir then.eg:   sudo chown -R /home/ultratek/.mozilla
[05:12] <genii> oops
[05:12] <genii> ultratek: If just firefox, then should be able to own just it's dir then.eg:   sudo chown -R ultratek:ultratek /home/ultratek/.mozilla
[05:12] <genii> ultratek: In the first example I neglected the username
[05:13] <ultratek> chown: missing operand after `/home/ultratek/.mozilla'
[05:13] <ultratek> Try `chown --help' for more information.
[05:14] <genii> ultratek: See my above comment and then add the   ultratek:ultratek      as in second time
[05:14] <ultratek> oh
[05:14] <ultratek> k
[05:14] <ultratek> guess it worked
[05:15] <genii> ultratek: OK so if firefox is open still somewhere, close it. Then try open it normally
[05:16] <ultratek> still wont load any page
[05:17] <teagan> i need help figuring out how to install nvidia drivers for compiz on Kubuntu?
[05:17] <ultratek> if i type firefox in terminal i get this pastebin:
[05:17] <ultratek> http://pastebin.com/m3d0beee4
[05:22] <genii> ultratek: Again, I doubt I will be much assistance with these types of errors.
[05:23] <amason_> ultratek: where did you get that version of firefox from ?
[05:23] <ultratek> kool thank you very much for the help
[05:24] <ultratek> i did a fresh install of jaunty 64 bit
[05:24] <ultratek> from 32bit
[05:24] <amason_> what do you mean from 32bit ?
[05:24] <ultratek> i had jaunty 32 bit
[05:24] <ultratek> so i formatted
[05:25] <amason_> ok, and so that version of firefox is what came with jaunty 64 ?
[05:25] <ultratek> yes that and i dowloaded the latest bz2 from mozilla
[05:25] <ultratek> and tried installing that way
[05:25] <ultratek> to get things to work
[05:26] <amason_> ok the latest bz2 that you downloaded, was that src or binary ?
[05:27] <ultratek> dunno exactly i followed some howto from ubuntu.org
[05:27] <ultratek> for the 3.0 version
[05:27] <amason_> erm.. do you have a link ?
[05:27] <ultratek> which i dld the 3.010 version
[05:27] <genii> Sounds like a 32bit firefox is choking on 64bit libs
[05:27] <amason_> yeh
[05:27] <amason_> thats sounds exactly like what is happening
[05:27] <ultratek> no because i totally broke firefox and lost my bookmarks
[05:28] <ultratek> hmm
[05:28] <amason_> you need to make sure you have a 64 bit version of firefox, OR the 32 bit libraries installed
[05:28] <ultratek> well the browser automatically poped up the bz2 from mozilla for dld which i assume the current firefox i used was from the jaunty cd
[05:28] <ultratek> how do i make sure of the 64
[05:30] <amason_> ultratek: remove the version of firefox you downloaded. then install firefox from kpackageKit
[05:30] <amason_> you should  end up with a working firefox that way
[05:30] <ralmar> Hey guys i was installing a deb package and the installation crashed. Now when i try to reinstall it it tells me i have to close another package manager (which is not visible). How can i fix this? Thanks
[05:31] <ultratek> how should i remove firefox
[05:31] <amason_> ralmar: open up your process list viewer system monitor
[05:31] <amason_> ultratek: undo the steps you used to install it
[05:31] <ralmar> amason and then what
[05:31] <amason_> ultratek: because you didn't use the packaged version its difficult to tell
[05:32] <amason_> ralmar: look for apt/ or packagekit or something like that which is running and kill it
[05:32] <ultratek> how do i install from kapackagekit?
[05:32] <amason_> ultratek: have you opened it?
[05:32] <amason_> its pretty intuitive
[05:32] <ultratek> what is kpackagekit?
[05:33] <amason_> ultratek: an application
[05:33] <amason_> it is installed in kubuntu by default
[05:33] <amason_> it is used to install programs / uninstall programs
[05:33] <ultratek>  i have ubuntu desktop 64
[05:33] <ultratek> jaunty
[05:33] <ultratek> is this the same as kubuntu
[05:33] <ultratek> ?
[05:33] <amason_> well..this is the kubuntu channel so we all assume KDE here
[05:34] <TweakedEh> I right click any folder I go to propertied then the Share tab and I click on Configure File Sharing. I put in my password and nothing happens.
[05:34] <ultratek> yea i was told to come here yesterday...someone said you guys were working on the latest jaunty
[05:34] <amason_> its not exactly the same. you would find better help in #ubuntu ...however in ubuntu i believe the application is called synaptec
[05:34] <ultratek> i was in #ubuntu+1
[05:34] <TweakedEh> How would I set up net work sharing?
[05:35] <amason_> ultratek: you were incorrectly informed. #ubuntu is for ubuntu #kubuntu is for kubuntu. #ubuntu+1 is for karmic
[05:35] <ultratek> hmm
[05:35] <ultratek> ty
[05:35] <amason_> TweakedEh: what kind of network sharing are you after ?
[05:36] <TweakedEh> windows/ samba
[05:36] <amason_> TweakedEh: you can view network shares by default in dophin , if you want to set it up, you would need to install the samba-server
[05:36] <amason_> in order to share your computer via samba
[05:37] <TweakedEh> E: Couldn't find package samba-server
[05:37] <amason_> i
[05:38] <amason_> i  am not sure of its exact name
[05:38] <amason_> have a look in kpackagekit
[05:38] <amason_> samba will bring up a few different options
[05:38] <amason_> one of them will be the server
[05:38] <genii> Just "samba"
[05:38] <TweakedEh> Yes, I see some. I tried "sudo apt-get install samba *tab tab*"
[05:39] <TweakedEh> samba client would work?
[05:39] <genii> Only smbfs is usually installed by default, samba is the samba server part
[05:39] <amason_> samba client is not the same as samba server. You can use apt-cache to search
[05:39] <amason_> but genii says its just samba
[05:39] <amason_> so try that
[05:39] <amason_> once thats installed you can just set up sharing via dolphin
[05:39] <TweakedEh> it is installed.
[05:39] <genii> TweakedEh: client works only if the files you want are on another box. If you want the windows machine to access the ones on the kubuntu box, you need the package called samba
[05:41] <TweakedEh> genii: I have the samba package installed. This is why i don't understand what's going on... I can view the printers that are hooked up to my laptop by the network but I cant seem to add folders to the sharing thing.
[05:42] <genii> TweakedEh: If the folders you are trying to share don't belong to the user you are running the file browser on, it won't work from in there.
[05:42] <TweakedEh> oh, maybe not, its called samba4 now?
[05:43] <TweakedEh> The file I want to share is in my home folder called "public"
[05:43] <TweakedEh> folder sorry
[05:46] <genii> TweakedEh: I normally manually edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file. You might want to try something like the package system-config-samba. Also I'm not sure if in kde4 you require kdenetwork-filesharing-kde4
[05:48] <TweakedEh> humm ok, Thanks for the help.. It's installing now, I will try to get it working if not I'll probably be back.
[05:50] <ralmar> Hey guys im trying to connect to a cisco vpn with the networkmanager-vpnc but it always fails. is there any way i can see the error output or why it fails? Thanks
[05:55] <fornix> guys, is there a shortcut in kubunte where i can see my desktop. much like Windows + D
[06:00] <ralmar> Hey guys i cant connect to a vpn with network-manager-vpnc.. is there anyway i can see the error output of why its not connecting?
[06:05] <genii> ralmar: The postings at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1137075 suggest that the networkmanager-vpnc does not allow some settings to be made. The site http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-connect-to-a-cisco-vpn-using-vpnc shows an example of values to make in the /etc/vpnc/default.conf file to connect to a Cisco setup. You might want to try.
[07:35] <dev11> how to install linpopup
[07:35] <dev11> ?
[07:36] <dev11> hi
[07:48] <dev11> how to install linpopup in linux?
[07:57] <GreatLord> Hi
[07:58] <GreatLord> I bit new on linux I need change the kernel from 2.6.28-11 to 2.6.99 or higher
[08:02] <hateball> GreatLord: That'll be a bit difficult... See http://www.kernel.org/
[08:05] <Mamarok> GreatLord: why would you need to change the kernel?
[08:05] <wilfried> Hello, i have a strange problem with my kubuntu 8.4.
[08:06] <wilfried> All the colors are messed up
[08:06] <wilfried> al kinds of bright collors are filling my screen
[08:06] <Mamarok> wilfried: what did you do before this happened?
[08:07] <wilfried> iI installed some kind of option so my text would be rendered
[08:07] <Mamarok> what option?
[08:07] <wilfried> with dpkg-configure -a
[08:07] <Mamarok> dev11: got connection problems?
[08:07] <Mamarok> wilfried: that actually doesn't install anything
[08:07] <wilfried> no
[08:07] <wilfried> it sets options
[08:07] <Mamarok> it just configures
[08:07] <Mamarok> wilfried: where did you set this option?
[08:08] <wilfried> It is an option dpkg gives to render text so that is doesńt look flat anymore
[08:08] <wilfried> The problem is that i connot find the option anymore
[08:08] <wilfried> so i dońt know how to reset
[08:08] <Mamarok> wilfried: dpkg is a package manager
[08:09] <Mamarok> wilfried: where did you set this option, in the system settings?
[08:09] <wilfried> yes
[08:09] <Mamarok> wilfried: you must have followed some instruction, where did you get it from?
[08:10] <wilfried> actually i had a problem with adept, it gave an error. On the internet someone said i should run dpkg-confiugre -a
[08:10] <Mamarok> dev11: make sure your connection works before joining a channel, else you are just causing trafic for nothing
[08:10] <wilfried> but that sets a lot of other options
[08:10] <wilfried> now my problem with adept is no more but my screen looks odd
[08:10] <Mamarok> wilfried: still, you said you changed a rendering option, where did you find that instruction?
[08:10] <Mamarok> dev11: make sure your connection works before joining a channel, else you are just causing trafic for nothing
[08:11] <Mamarok> wilfried: are you running kde3 or kde4?
[08:11] <wilfried> i believe it is kde3
[08:11] <wilfried> it is a fresh install of 8.4
[08:12] <Mamarok> 8.04 you mean
[08:12] <wilfried> yes
[08:12] <Mamarok> then revert the rendering option and run dpkg --configure -a again
[08:13] <wilfried> so it is not the color depth that is still 24
[08:13] <Mamarok> wilfried: I don't know, but that rendering option you set screwed up your graphics as it seems, just revert it
[08:13] <wilfried> ok
[08:13] <wilfried> i will try
[08:13] <Mamarok> I don't thing color depth would do that
[08:14] <Mamarok> dev11: please do not join untill you have a stable connection!
[08:15] <GreatLord> it seam I forget install the kernel source code :)
[08:16] <GreatLord> I trying getting my dvb-c tvcard working in linux
[08:27] <Mamarok> GreatLord: what would you need the source code for if you are just a user?
[08:29] <jussi01> !tv | GreatLord
[08:41] <contrast> Greets, everyone.
[08:41] <contrast> Anyone here check out Beta 1 of KDE 4.3?
[08:43] <dwidmann> ooh, neato, I'm burning a CD in one drive and watching a DVD movie using the other drive and the system isn't messing up ... that's new.
[08:44] <Mamarok> contrast: be patient, it's beta and still in testing mode
[08:44] <Mamarok> dwidmann: nice to hear :)
[08:45] <dwidmann> Mamarok: I never could before and gave it a whirl without thinking about it and it's working ... I wonder what is to blame for it
[08:47] <dwidmann> Maybe 9.04, or my new build, or some combination thereof ... interesting anyway
[08:47] <djino> ...
[08:47]  * djino blabal
[08:52] <contrast> Mamarok: i'm accustomed to running beta stuff, just wondering how much of a headache 4.3 in particular is, if at all. :)
[08:53] <Mamarok> contrast: for now it is, one has to overwrite a lot of stuff with conflicting packages
[08:53] <Mamarok> contrast: I would wait if I were you
[08:55] <contrast> Mamarok: good to know, thanks.
[08:55] <Mamarok> contrast: you are welcome :)
[09:21] <Virk> hi everyone
[09:22] <Virk> I just recently installed kde 4.3, and I was curious on why neopmuk isn't able to start strigi. it aways tells me that it fails to initialize, most likely due to an installation problem..
[09:22] <Virk> is there a path where nepomuk searches for the strigi deamon or so?
[09:25] <hellen> morning all
[09:26] <hellen> does any one know how to install scripts in konversation??
[09:26] <hellen> cos this girly is stuck ..
[09:27] <drbobb> hello, what's the right way to control key autorepeat? cause I found that for some reason, two of my arrow keys don't autorepeat when held pressed, even though most other keys do
[09:32] <coreyman1> How come I can't execute shell scripts by just clicking them?
[09:36] <hellen> any one?
[09:40] <Mamarok> hellen: sorry, I just joine, could you repeat your question?
[09:40] <Mamarok> joined*
[09:41] <FuriousGeorge> later all
[09:43] <drbobb> what's the right way to control key autorepeat? cause I found that for some reason, two of my arrow keys don't autorepeat when held pressed, even though most other keys do
[09:46] <hellen> does any one know how to install scripts in konversation??
[10:01] <Mamarok> hellen: dou you have a script at hand? It should be either installable through the settings menu, or else you should be able to load it with the /load command
[10:03] <hellen> ye si have it  ..  i`m just trying to work out where to save it and  never added a damn thing in  konversation before  ..
[10:03] <Mamarok> hellen: watch your language...
[10:04] <bazhang> http://konversation.kde.org/wiki/FAQ hellen generally two locations
[10:04] <Mamarok> hi bazhang :)
[10:04] <hellen> thankyou
[10:04] <bazhang> hi Mamarok :)
[10:11] <drbobb> what's the proper way to control key autorepeat? cause I found that for some reason, two of my arrow keys don't autorepeat when held pressed, even though most other keys do
[10:12] <drbobb> I know I can work around this with xset, but I'd like to try to track down this bug
[10:21] <kjelle> When running gnome/kde, i (on IP HOST B) xhost +<IP HOST A>, and i do on IP HOST A "export DISPLAY=<IP HOST B>:0", why doesn't my IP HOST B automatically accept X on port 6000? Why do i need silly software like xserver-xephyr or xnest? They look bad, and u get a window.. Why can't my app be sent to my desktop on IP HOST B?
[10:26] <HumpBack> Hello all. I'm using jaunty and I have no Printing Manager.
[10:26] <HumpBack> Did i forget to install something?
[10:26] <bazhang> HumpBack, cups?
[10:26] <jussi01> HumpBack: not in system settings -> advanced?
[10:26] <HumpBack> jussi01: I've seen the docs poiting to that. But i have nothing there.
[10:27] <jussi01> HumpBack: curous, I have it. HumpBack what about http://localhost:631 in your browser?
[10:27] <HumpBack> jussi01: cups is running.
[10:28] <HumpBack> Just no extra GUI's
[10:28] <jussi01> HumpBack: yeah, but you can configure in your browser, no?
[10:28] <HumpBack> jussi01: well.. Yes :)
[10:30] <jussi01> HumpBack: However, I get you are trying to fix the issue, not just configure a printer. I would assume a module is missing, howvever Im not sure which one...
[10:30]  * jussi01 searches
[10:32] <HumpBack> jussi01: thanks
[10:32] <jussi01> !info system-config-printer-kde | HumpBack
[10:32] <jussi01> I think that may be it...
[10:32] <jussi01> but not certain..
[10:35] <HumpBack> jussi01: maybe a logout/login is needed. And i cant do it now.
[10:35] <jussi01> HumpBack: perhaps.
[10:35] <HumpBack> I have another issue that is more anoying.
[10:36] <jussi01> HumpBack: Im sorry Im not more informed
[10:36] <jussi01> HumpBack: do tell
[10:36] <HumpBack> I installed this machine with rc4 or 5. After that i did the usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:37] <HumpBack> And now everytime i restart the machine X starts all garbaged and I have a message that kubuntu is running on low graphics mode
[10:37] <jussi01> HumpBack: try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[10:37] <jussi01> HumpBack: that will make sure you have all the deps from it
[10:38] <HumpBack> I have alot of options but none fixes the issue. I have to go to the console and stop start the kdm init.d script. That gives me a running desktop
[10:38] <useruseruser> i like american bbq
[10:38]  * jussi01 needs to work now, sorry.
[10:38] <useruseruser> i like american bbq
[10:38] <HumpBack> jussi01: Thanks
[10:38] <eagles0513875> !ot > useruseruser
[10:38] <bazhang> useruseruser, offtopic
[11:01] <mr_me> wow....i never knew kubuntu had an irc channel!
[11:01] <mr_me> cool
[11:30] <wimpies> i just upgraded from Hardy to jaunty on one of my PC's.  Now krfb does not work anymore between my two systems of which one is hardy and the other is jaunty.  The connection gets established but it freezes
[11:31] <wimpies> is this a bug ?
[11:43] <drbobb> what issues are there specifically with the kde4.3 beta?
[11:52] <cortex_sk> drbobb: it still doesn't work in jaunty
[11:53] <psycoborg> i have to admit. this is the longest i have gone in linux.
[11:55] <psycoborg> i have been on linux for 30 days now with only 1 reboot. and the only problem im having is with the upper case c. for some reason it does not work with the chify key. i have to use the caps lock.
[11:55] <psycoborg> this is something i can live with though.
[11:56] <psycoborg> :P
[11:56] <psycoborg> i have not crashed it in 2 weeks which is also a record.
[11:56] <drbobb> cortex_sk: and more specifically?
[11:56] <psycoborg> :D
[11:59] <dwidmann> psycoborg: when you try to shift+c, what does xev say?
[12:00] <cortex_sk> drbobb: http://pastebin.ca/1428546
[12:02] <drbobb> cortex_sk: thx
[12:05] <neptune> what is ubuntu 8.10 called?
[12:05] <bazhang> !intrepid
[12:07] <psycoborg> the shift + c key does not work. when typing.  no errors are displayed.
[12:07] <p-f> Is there an easy way to move applications from one X server instance to another? (they're both local, same user...basically I want screen for X)
[12:07] <psycoborg> it could be some sort of shortcut might be assigned to this.
[12:07] <p-f> I found 'xpra', but it's in early beta stages and I figure someone else might have found another way
[12:09] <wimpies> i have problems using krfb between hardy and jaunty.  get a connection but image freezes ... is this a bug ?
[12:15] <drbobb> cortex_sk: UGH is all i can say
[12:15] <psycoborg> wimpies. is that the only time it freezes?
[12:16] <wimpies> psycoborg : yes
[12:16] <drbobb> how about the 4.2.3  update from ppa?
[12:16] <psycoborg> hmm.
[12:17] <drbobb> worth trying, or not?
[12:17] <wimpies> as usual, before (between 2 hardy) it worked perfectly
[12:17] <drbobb> maybe not, I wasted lots of time as it is to whip jaunty into a usable state
[12:18] <psycoborg> i have used vnc under windows, and when it froze up i simply reduced the resoloution. from 1024 X 768  to 800 by 600 and also reduced the color depth.  im not sure if this will work in this case. have you tried that?
[12:19] <wimpies> that might work as my jauntu runs on a tv 1378x762 (or something) and my desktopon 1240x1024.  however again that was never a problem before
[12:21] <psycoborg> true. and  i have never run krnb on linux before either.  :P
[12:21] <psycoborg> is this on a wan or a lan line?
[12:22] <wimpies> lan
[12:22] <psycoborg> wired or wireless?
[12:22] <wimpies> wireded
[12:22] <josteint> hi all! could someone with kubuntu 9.04 please try 'sudo apt-get install schism' and run 'schism'? i am having trouble running it with kubuntu 9.04, and i believe it is related to pulseaudio being used as default sound server in kubuntu 9.04. using alsa as default would problably make schism run.
[12:22] <psycoborg> herm.
[12:23] <ct529> josteint: what is schism?
[12:23] <wimpies> perhaps I should report a bug
[12:24] <josteint> ct529: schism is schism tracker. it is a remake of the old impulse tracker, which is a music making program
[12:24] <psycoborg> its a ImpulseTracker clone :)
[12:24] <psycoborg> oops i type too slow.
[12:25] <psycoborg> im not having any issues with mine. but again. im not running accross the to platforms.
[12:25] <psycoborg> wimpress.
[12:27] <psycoborg> josteint. what hardware are you using?
[12:29] <psycoborg> it works on my laptop and im using a toshiba satellite L3050
[12:35] <josteint> psycoborg: some nvidia onboard card
[12:35] <psycoborg> ok.
[12:35] <psycoborg> im using an ATI card.
[12:36] <josteint> psycoborg: are you using 9.04?
[12:36] <psycoborg> this irc server is kinda jumpy tonight.
[12:36] <psycoborg> yes.
[12:36] <psycoborg> with all the latest updates.
[12:36] <josteint> psycoborg: could you please try apt-get install schism and run schism? i just want to make sure it is equal for other 9.04 users
[12:37] <psycoborg> i already did.
[12:37] <psycoborg> :)
[12:37] <psycoborg> and it is working on my system.
[12:37] <josteint> psycoborg: really!? hmm....
[12:37] <josteint> psycoborg: and is flash working properly? do you hear sound on youtube?
[12:38] <psycoborg> but seeing as i never used it before,  im not sure how to support it yet.
[12:38] <psycoborg> yes.
[12:38] <psycoborg> wait.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:38] <psycoborg> before or after it was installed?
[12:38] <psycoborg> lol
[12:38] <psycoborg> let me check.
[12:39] <josteint> psycoborg: hmm... what could be wrong? since your 9.04 works with schism and flash, and not mine... strange
[12:39] <josteint> hard to track the bug...
[12:40] <psycoborg> ok.
[12:40] <psycoborg> i just tested the youtube thing.
[12:40] <psycoborg> and welp.
[12:40] <psycoborg> now my screeen locks up.
[12:40] <psycoborg> you just gave me a new project.
[12:40] <psycoborg> :)
[12:41] <josteint> ok. thank you for that info. i will try the live-cd kubuntu 9.04 and try installing schism there. if it runs, i will just reinstall the entire system
[12:41] <josteint> psycoborg: what? you did not get sound?
[12:42] <psycoborg> no i tried to run a youtube video and then the screeen dimmed. and i got the error msg saying schism anf jaunty is not responding.
[12:42] <psycoborg> and i had to force quit it.
[12:43] <white_pelican> hi all. I am running Jaunty Jackelope, with both kde 4 and kde 3. I primarily use kde 3. This AM, after shutting down last night, I seem to have both kicker and the kde4 panel. is there anyway to get rid of the kde4 panel?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: killall plasma
[12:43] <josteint> hmm.. odd.. i find it difficult to make ubuntu run 100% clean on a fresh install
[12:43] <white_pelican> why is it running to begin woth?
[12:43] <white_pelican> with*
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: maybe its stored in your last profile as running so jumps up
[12:44] <psycoborg> ok it is working,.
[12:44] <white_pelican> oerhaps
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: ive never mixed kde3 with kde4 so i couldnt honestly say
[12:44] <psycoborg> i guess i had to restart it.
[12:44] <white_pelican> or maybe it was the latest update
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: also perhaps
[12:45] <white_pelican> you should see the screenshot :)
[12:46] <white_pelican> I also got a sigsev on nspluginscan
[12:46] <white_pelican> I guess I should report that one, eh?
[12:46] <psycoborg> josteint it is no longer working.
[12:47] <psycoborg> it aborts on launch.
[12:47] <white_pelican> I killed the plasma desktop and now it looks normal
[12:47] <white_pelican> :)
[12:47] <psycoborg> not sure why.
[12:49] <psycoborg> joseint: running it now i get the following error: *** stack smashing detected ***: schism terminated <-- were you having a simular problem? or something else?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: i'd say it was the saved session from kde4
[12:50] <white_pelican> I'd say it to, except for the fact that I haven't been in kde 4 for days now
[12:55] <white_pelican> but I do appreciate the help, ActionParsnip
[12:55] <white_pelican> I'm sure I'll get ot the bottom of this mes
[12:55] <white_pelican> mess*
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: you could make kde4 not save session
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: or have a script to check which kde version is running, if its kde3 then kill plasma
[12:57] <white_pelican> also possible but the point is, I never use kde 4, just the apps
[12:58] <white_pelican> personally, I think in the last update (I'm trying kde 4.3 beta 1) there are serious errors that abound
[12:58] <white_pelican> so they will be fixed in time
[12:59] <white_pelican> at least you gave me a temporary solution
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: if you are using beta software you will most likely get weirdnes and issues
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: its beta for a reason
[13:04] <white_pelican> yes'm
[13:04] <white_pelican> :)
[13:04] <josteint> psycoborg: too bad. can you fix it?
[13:04] <white_pelican> I think I shall stick to kde 3
[13:05] <white_pelican> I would sooner switch to gnome or even go back to Windows before switching to kde 4. Many people like it, but I hate it
[13:05] <Paddy_EIRE> I love it
[13:06] <white_pelican> too each their own as they say
[13:07] <white_pelican> only way I will switch is if I were given the opportunity to make kde 4 look like kde 3
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: i use LXDE, no issues there :)
[13:08] <white_pelican> what's that?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> !info lxde
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: install lxde, log off, change session tpe to lxde, log on
[13:09] <white_pelican> is lxde in the repository?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> white_pelican: yes, in universe repo like ubottu says
[13:10] <white_pelican> ok I might consider it
[13:10] <white_pelican> :)
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> if you dislike it, you can uninstall it
[13:11] <white_pelican> my contention was why kde 4 insinuated itself into kde 3 if all I was using was kde 4 apps
[13:15] <drbobb> ActionParsnip: hello. I kinda solved my keymapping problem, which you might recall
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> drbobb: oh yeah, whats the score duder?
[13:17] <drbobb> well the upper layer of xkb was loading a map based on xorg keycode definitions, but the server somehow insisted it would use the evdev driver for the keyboard
[13:18] <drbobb> or maybe it was kde that was loading a keymab based on assuming the xorg keycodes, i'm not sure
[13:19] <drbobb> well gnome was doing the same
[13:19] <drbobb> it's all quite confusing, but the score is the keys are working
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> cool, and you didnt reinstall?
[13:20] <drbobb> except for 1 little weirdness: 2 of the arrow keys don't autorepeat as they should, but that has an easy workaround
[13:20] <drbobb> nope, no reinstall
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> sweeeeeeet :D
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> for 2. get your track and field skills out :)
[13:22] <drbobb> I will still need to replace my laptop as soon as I can get my hands on some dough
[13:22] <drbobb> cause one of these days the SiS vga driver will bitrot beyond all repair, and nobody's maintaining it anymore afaics
[13:29] <drbobb> as it is, when I run the old Xorg from hardy, fullscreen video tuns pretty much ok, I can even use some of kwin's desktop effects withought undue cpu load
[13:30] <drbobb> with the newer Xorg, SiS is pretty much nonfunctional
[13:31]  * drbobb wonders wtf happened to his spelling
[13:41] <WeBaS> hello..where they hidded the "adept installer" or "add/remove programs" program in 9.04?
[13:42] <bazhang> !info adept
[13:42] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install adept <--in the konsole WeBaS
[13:43] <WeBaS> what, you mean they dont install it by default? weird.... ye thanks bazhang
[13:43] <bazhang> !info kpackagekit
[13:45] <drbobb> but that one sucks, you're better off installing synaptic if you don't mind the gnome libs being pulled in
[13:47] <drbobb> better yet learn to use aptitude (yeah it is confusing sometimes)
[13:47] <The-Compiler> Hi there, I want to use the Proggy-font in KDE Konsole, but in the font dialog only some monospaced font or shown, even though Proggy is installed to ~/.fonts. Any idea how I can get KDE Konsole to show all fonts and/or declare Proggy as a font which should be okay for use in KDE Konsole?
[13:48] <drbobb> The-Compiler: fc-cache -v ?
[13:50] <The-Compiler> drbobb: http://pastebin.com/f2a10201b
[13:51] <drbobb> uh seems that wasn't the problem
[13:51] <drbobb> sorry can't help atm, I'm not on kde4 right now
[13:52] <The-Compiler> I'm on Fluxbox, using KDE4 Konsole though
[13:53] <drbobb> well I'm on a hardy system
[13:56] <drbobb> folks, I discovered kde4 does in fact have several less tacky visual themes, for widgets and window deco
[13:57] <drbobb> skulpture is pretty cool, does both widgets and kwin
[13:58] <drbobb> qtcurve is not too bad, and ditto
[13:59] <drbobb> and the kde4 port of crystal seems to work well, too
[14:02] <Steve^> I have a USB device plugged in and charging, how do I force it to be loaded as a file-storage device?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Steve^: if its partition shows up in    sudo fdisk -l   you can mount it
[14:03] <eMyller> hey
[14:04] <Steve^> Sadly not
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Steve^: then you will need a module to get it working
[14:04] <Steve^> Via windows/mac you can mount it and it updates data via the internet (Nike+ Sportsband)
[14:04] <Steve^> so theres data on it somewhere
[14:04] <Steve^> what kind of module?
[14:04] <bazhang> eMyller, aptoncd
[14:04] <bazhang> !aptoncd | eMyller
[14:05] <eMyller> i know what it is, a giy from here developed it
[14:05] <eMyller> *guy
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Steve^: i'd have a look in   lsusb  to get it's ID and websearch that
[14:05] <eMyller> but i cant install it here, many gnome deps
[14:10] <Steve^> damn, there's only one result out there and its not helpful, thanks anyway ActionParsnip
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:13] <eMyller|busy> bazhang: can i do it exporting somehow with terminal?
[14:14] <bazhang> eMyller|busy, you want to create a script?
[14:14] <bazhang> !offline
[14:23] <eMyller> my goal: use apt-get install ... on a new kubuntu box, without using apt-get update on it
[14:25] <eMyller> i filled its apt cache with my update deb i have on my own box with a connection
[14:28] <bazhang> what about a remaster eMyller
[14:28] <eMyller> bazhang: what?
[14:29] <bazhang> eMyller, you want a fully updated kubuntu with all the packages, correct? ie codecs, etc
[14:29] <eMyller> yes
[14:29] <eMyller> not all the packages i have here
[14:29] <eMyller> i just wanna reuse some of them
[14:29] <eMyller> with apt-get
[14:29] <sophie__> hello
[14:30] <bazhang> well, just trying to figure out your end goal. /msg ubottu remaster for some links/info eMyller
[14:31] <eMyller> bazhang: did u got what i want?
[14:32] <sophie__> I have add the neon / experimental deposits. I have done a dist-upgrade with no errors. But now I can't connect in X, I have this message "No greater widget plugin loaded. Check the configuration.". What's happen?
[14:33] <bazhang> eMyller, yes. if you want only that method, then not sure. there are other methods to achieve what you wish though
[14:33] <eMyller> bazhang: remastering is a great thing, that i sure will do later
[14:33] <bazhang> eMyller, seems like you want an aptonhdd :)
[14:34] <eMyller> bazhang: any other instant method?
[14:34] <eMyller> liked this name =P
[14:34] <eMyller> depends on gnome?
[14:35] <bazhang> I just made it up to suit the occasion :)
[14:35] <eMyller> ah =(
[14:36] <bazhang> not on kde or I could try the remaster method; that does use stuff outside the iso
[14:36] <bazhang> as far as instant, it is fairly fast
[14:37] <pm2> I have an aerial photo of a 500-acre property.   I know the lat/lon of several points on that property (road intersections, corners of buildings, etc).  From that information, I want to be able to plot additional lat/long point.  Eg, I give it a point, it shows it at the correct location on the map.  Can anyone recommend software to do this?
[14:38] <eMyller> bazhang: but with that i should completely reinstall this kubuntu, no?
[14:38] <bazhang> eMyller, no need
[14:39] <bazhang> pm2, google maps type function?
[14:40] <pm2> bazhang: I thought about that, but I'd rather use this particular aerial photo I have
[14:40] <eMyller> bazhang: ok, ty =)
[14:41] <eMyller> hey, can i do a dpkg -i auto loading the deps if they're found in the same dir?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> eMyller: sudo dpkg -i <deb file>; sudo apt-get -f install
[14:42] <eMyller> ActionParsnip: will it grab the debs from the dir where the main .deb is?
[14:42] <sophie__> someone can help me please? I can't connect till this morning :\
[14:43] <sophie__> I have add the neon / experimental deposits. I have done a dist-upgrade with no errors. But now I can't connect in X, I have this message "No greater widget plugin loaded. Check the configuration.". What's happen?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> eMyller: you can use a wildcard with the dpkg command: sudo dpkg -i *.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[14:44] <BluesKaj> pm2 , google earth shows lat & long as does google maps
[14:44] <eMyller> ActionParsnip: this is the point; i just wanna some of the packages, not all of them
[14:44] <pm2> BluesKaj: ok, I'll take a closer look at that, thanks
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> eMyller: then specify them, sudo dpkg -i something.deb somethingelse.deb someother.deb foo.deb bar.deb
[14:45] <eMyller> thousands of deps.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> pm2 , there's a tutorial on entering degrees/mins/secs/  on google earth in a specific manner , you may want to look for that how to on the net
[14:47] <petsounds> hello, can someone write me a command line to install nvidia 180 drivers? thanks b4
[14:48] <pm2> BluesKaj: ok thanks
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> petsounds: what is the output of   lsb_release -c ?
[14:49] <petsounds> lsb_release: error: No arguments are permitted
[14:49] <padi999> Hey guys. I'm using radeon driver and a ATI Mobility FireGL 9000 with kubuntu9.4 and having a LOT of RAM issues(I have got 512MB). Now the mem usage under LIGHT (only firefox and filemanager opened): http://pastebin.com/m793bf4b9
[14:49] <padi999> This is extreme that already here swapping comes in!
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> petsounds:  are you on jaunty?
[14:50] <petsounds> yes sir
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> petsounds: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[14:50] <padi999> + "conditions" in my first line above
[14:50] <petsounds> thank u ActionParsnip
[14:51] <padi999> You can see now that with 512MB, I am already eating into swap, and I haven't actually started doing anything yet.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> padi999: check    ps -ef | less
[14:52] <padi999> ActionParsnip: check for what? cpu hogs?
[14:53] <padi999> ActionParsnip: I know it's Xorg and firefox
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> padi999: for anything hogs
[14:54] <padi999> ActionParsnip: okay, but in that list I only see the PID's and the processes. Wouldn't top be better for checking that instead of ps? ;)
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> padi999: ps will give a snapshot and you can scroll up and down, plus you can use ef to show ALL processes for all users
[14:56] <padi999> anyway, Xorg always is within [50% , 70%] while firefox is between [10% , 50%]
[14:56] <padi999> ActionParsnip: okay but how can I know which of the processes hogs most?
[14:56] <padi999> ActionParsnip: I mean only by issuing ps -ef
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> padi999: check mem usage and cpu usage
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> padi999: ok ps doesnt show cpu
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> i'd use top as you say
[14:58] <drbobb> padi999: htop is better yet. it's not installed by default though (afair)
[14:59] <padi999> drbobb: I'll give it a try
[15:00] <drbobb> it makes it real easy to sort the processes by cpu, mem usage or whatever you want
[15:00] <padi999> drbobb: thank's for the hint, htop is good!
[15:00] <drbobb> and firefox does tend to be a hog, but you figures for X definitely look excessive
[15:01] <drbobb> s/you/your/
[15:02] <padi999> drbobb: yes, /usr/bin/X is the one using a LOT of cpu and mem, too
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> try swiftfox or kazenchase for something lighter
[15:02] <padi999> drbobb: how can I sort the listing in htop by mem usage instead of cpu usage?
[15:02] <padi999> drbobb: ah, clicking :)
[15:02] <drbobb> padi999: hit f6 and take your pick
[15:03] <padi999> drbobb: very interesting numbers here! firefox 18.4% MEM but like 5 processes with the same number
[15:04] <drbobb> I'd say X should be below 10% most of the time
[15:05] <drbobb> padi999: that's to be expected, those are actually threads that share most of their memory space
[15:05] <padi999> drbobb: ah, nice!
[15:06] <drbobb> launch anything java and you'll be seeing like two dozen of them for one app
[15:06] <padi999> drbobb: okay, than firefox is not the most evil one but Xorg
[15:07] <drbobb> yes something's clearly wrong with yor X
[15:07] <padi999> drbobb: Yeah, I know, a process can have numerous threads
[15:08] <padi999> drbobb: even when I move the mouse, it goes up from 40% to 80%
[15:08] <padi999> only by moving the mouse :)
[15:09] <eMyller> cya
[15:09] <padi999> drbobb: can it be that in 9.4 they switched X and the idle process? :)
[15:09] <drbobb> I can keep it at about 10% by moving the mouse around quickly, otherwise it drops to around 5%
[15:09] <padi999> drbobb: nice number :I
[15:10] <drbobb> padi999: no, I suspect you have some evil desktop gadget that's flooding the server with bad requests.
[15:10] <padi999> drbobb: yeah, probably that plasma stuff
[15:11] <drbobb> well, gotta run now - CU
[15:11] <Daskreech> bye
[15:14] <emailwedgy> hello all.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> I'm very disappointed in the xorg.conf file neing so touchy now , can't even edit capsl ock off command without X freezing. To me that's too much like windows
[15:14] <Daskreech> X sucks
[15:16] <BluesKaj> afraid to admit that I actually enjoyed being on W7 yesterday
[15:16]  * genii blames it on caffeine deficiencies at x.org
[15:17] <emailwedgy> anyone know how to make the taskbars appear without the second or so delay?
[15:17]  * Daskreech blames it on stupid experiments being carried out in trunk rahter than branches
[15:26] <BluesKaj> BBL
[15:26] <dziadek> who know good php coursebook?
[15:28] <Daskreech> dziadek: Checked the PHP website?
[15:30] <ncfi1013_> does anybody know of any dj-ing software that is open source?
[15:31] <Daskreech> !find dj
[15:31] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: try idjc
[15:31] <Daskreech> ha ha
[15:31] <Daskreech> !info idjc
[15:31] <Mamarok> hi Daskreech :)
[15:32] <Daskreech> Hello Mamarok
[15:32] <Mamarok> I just asked the Amarok DJ, he told me that one :)
[15:32] <ncfi1013_> is it in the repos?
[15:32] <LjL> !info djplay
[15:32] <Mamarok> it seems so, yes
[15:33] <ncfi1013_> is that the best one?
[15:33] <LjL> !best
[15:33] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: he swears on idjc
[15:33] <LjL> if the bot has it in !info, then it's in the repos.
[15:33] <Mamarok> and does a bi-weekly session with it
[15:34] <ncfi1013_> no poll-taking here. i just like club, dub, and industrial and thought i would give it a shot
[15:36] <LjL> ncfi1013_:  idjc, mixxx, djplay, dbmix, pytone are the ones i found in the repos
[15:49] <ct529> I would like to play quick time files on my computer .... what plugins should I add?
[15:54] <jussi01> !quicktime | ct529
[15:58] <RainbowW> is there a magic howto somewhere in configuring dual head support under kde? under gnome it was magic. laptop and an external port. at the moment i can either disable one and use the other, or i can make them mirror, but i can't make them be an extended desktop.
[16:00] <tripod__> when i enable compiz fusion on kubuntu juanty it disables the alt f2 doodat, anyone know how to re-enable that without turning compiz session off?
[16:02] <adevc> hi everybody. I am wondering how and if one can get rid of Strigi and or Nepomuk on kubuntu?
[16:02] <tripod__> adevc: use kpackagemanager?
[16:02] <adevc> tripod__: or apt-get ?
[16:03] <tripod__> adevc: that shold also work
[16:03] <tripod__> adevc: both do the same thing
[16:03] <adevc> tripod__: couldn't find package names for the server nepomuk server?
[16:03] <tripod__> adevc: did you compile it from source
[16:04] <adevc> tripod__: nope, just came with 9.04 and i don't need them
[16:04] <tripod__> adevc: 1 moment
[16:05] <tripod__> adevc: i cant find it either to remove :(, sorry wouldnt havea  clue
[16:05] <adevc> tripod__: thank you .. found that nepomukserver is running while not activated in server settings, so now i want to get rid of them
[16:05] <tripod__> adevc: okay
[16:05] <adevc> tripod__: thanks for trying :)
[16:06] <adevc> Anyone, how to remove nepomuk and or strigi related stuff from Kubuntu?
[16:06] <tripod__> adevc: just trying to remember the search cmd
[16:07] <adevc> tripod__: 'locate' ? Gives me the location of the software, but can i simply remove it - wouldn't think so :) Can't even find where to change the setting in order to not start up a 'nepomuk' service in the first place
[16:08] <tripod__> adevc: i thinks some libs depend on it
[16:08] <tripod__> adevc: like libplasma
[16:09] <adevc> tripod__: well, if i can't find something to get rid of them i think i will run the box in another runlevel until it can be removed :)
[16:09] <tripod__> anyone here know how to re enable ALT F2 doodat, after enabling compiz fusion
[16:09] <tripod__> :)
[16:09] <Ash-Fox> How do I disable ssh's stupid check on file permissions on certificates? - I am trying run backups under a specific user and I use ACLs to grant it read access to everything and SSH refuses to work when the ACLs are set on the files.
[16:10] <adevc> tripod__: thank you for helping me out - i'll just burn the software from disk and c where kubuntu stops ...
[16:10] <coreyman1> what is the sudo command for GUI's?
[16:10] <tripod__> gksu
[16:10] <Ash-Fox> kdesudo
[16:10] <ct529> jussi01: it is not my fault .... the thing produces only quicktime format videos
[16:10] <coreyman1> thx ash-fox
[16:10] <coreyman1> gksu is for gnome
[16:11] <tripod__> i use it for gksu dolphin lol
[16:11] <tripod__> im enw to kubuntu lol
[16:11] <tripod__> new*
[16:12] <RainbowW> is there a magic howto somewhere in configuring dual head support under kde? under gnome it was magic. laptop and an external port. at the moment i can either disable one and use the other, or i can make them mirror, but i can't make them be an extended desktop.
[16:15] <ncfi1013_> anybody know why some of my dial;og windows open within the area of my screen and some do not?
[16:17] <Daskreech> RainbowW: what are you trying to do?
[16:18] <RainbowW> Daskreech: have half my desktop on one head, half on the other ...
[16:18] <Gamarok__> guys is it safe for me to upgrade my distro from 8.10 to 9.04 or should i prefer a fresh clean install coz i have heard some ppl have trouble with upgrades
[16:18] <Daskreech> !xinerama
[16:18] <Daskreech> Gamarok__: What are you afraid of?
[16:19] <Daskreech> First of all read the release notes :)
[16:19] <RainbowW> Daskreech: this is a kde-specific issue tho. under stock ubuntu/gnome, it works without a hiccup.
[16:19] <Gamarok__> well i just dont wanna upgrade my pc on an terrible connection only for it to break so i was just checking
[16:20] <RainbowW> thus, my question.
[16:20] <Daskreech> Erm ok I've never played with any of that stuff so I'm kinda useless at it
[16:20] <mohaa> I have issues with kubuntu 9.10
[16:20] <Daskreech> Gamarok__: Read the release notes first. If anything there may touch you adversely then don't
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Gamarok__, I had a successful upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 , without doing a clean install , until an upgrade flumoxed the OS , then I had to do a clean install . It's the aftermath that you have to watch out for IMO
[16:21] <Mamarok> mohaa: that is very early alpha, not for productive use at all!
[16:21] <Gamarok__> thanks guys
[16:21] <mohaa> I have issues with kubuntu 9.04   Mamarok
[16:21] <Mamarok> mohaa: what issues?
[16:21] <mohaa> Mamarok, wireless (intel)
[16:22] <Mamarok> mohaa: works without a flaw here, kde 4.2.3
[16:22] <mohaa> passphrase not accepted at _all_
[16:22] <Mamarok> mohaa: WEP or WPA?
[16:22] <Daskreech> mohaa: #ubuntu+1 ?
[16:22] <Mamarok> Daskreech: he mistyped
[16:22] <Daskreech> Ah ok
[16:26]  * Mamarok restarts KDE, she might disapear for a moment though ...
[16:28] <Daskreech> Restarting normally does that :)
[16:28] <Daskreech> assuming that mohaa is a he
[16:28] <snarkster> can anyone assist in getting jdbc to work with mysql and Ooo-base as front end?
[16:29] <Daskreech> #openoffice.org ?
[16:29] <snarkster> ah thank you
[16:33] <captainpi> join #twiddle
[16:45] <pawel> hello - after installation of kubuntu (im a long time gnome user so far) i cant make compiz shortcuts (hotkeys) running - in compiz settings all the shortcuts are all set up properly but just (for example) ctrl alt --> doesnt rotate the cube for example - any help here?
[16:49] <dhuv> hello all
[16:49] <dhuv> I was wondering if someone was aware of a ppa which would let me install KDE 4.3 Beta on Jaunty
[16:50] <pawel> after installation of kubuntu (im a long time gnome user so far) i cant make compiz shortcuts (hotkeys) running - in compiz settings all the shortcuts are all set up properly but just (for example) ctrl alt --> doesnt rotate the cube for example - any help here?
[16:52] <Daskreech> pawel: Do you have compiz running?
[16:52] <Daskreech> dhuv: Saw the Topic?
[16:53] <dhuv> Daskreech: ahh, just scrolled up to see it
[16:53] <dhuv> thanks
[16:53] <pawel> yes Daskreech, for example window switching works with alt tab
[16:53] <dhuv> do you know when it will be ready for regular use?
[16:53] <pawel> however it looks like kwin
[16:53] <Daskreech> pawel: ha ha try Ctrl+F2
[16:53] <pawel> krunner
[16:54] <Daskreech> pawel: That sounds remarkably like alt+F2
[16:54] <pawel> u r right
[16:54] <Daskreech> dhuv: When what is ready ?
[16:54] <pawel> ctrl f2 does nothing
[16:54] <dhuv> Daskreech: packages to install in Jaunty
[16:54] <Daskreech> pawel: what does alt+F3 do ?
[16:54] <Daskreech> dhuv: They should be readyish now
[16:55] <dhuv> are they even going do that with the Beta or just wait for the full release?
[16:55] <pawel> opens window menu - maximalize, minimalize, close etc
[16:55] <dhuv> Daskreech: cool, I will check back from time to time, hopefully kubuntu.org has instructions, I saw a message today about packages for karmic so I figured I would ask about jaunty
[16:56] <Daskreech> dhuv: Every beta and RC till the release
[16:56] <Daskreech> pawel: ok well then Ctrl+Fn switches desktops
[16:57] <pawel> hm u mean F+number?
[16:57] <pawel> does nothing
[16:57] <Daskreech> dhuv: apparently you didn't read the jaunty announcement :)
[16:57] <Daskreech> pawel: No I meant ctrl+Fn
[16:57] <pawel> i mean it does switch desktops
[16:57] <pawel> whats Fn on standard keyboard?
[16:58] <Daskreech> F#
[16:58] <Daskreech> F1 F2 F3 F4
[16:58] <pawel> yeah
[16:58] <pawel> so it does switch desktops (all two  ;) )
[16:58] <Daskreech> Right :)
[16:58] <pawel> however i would really like to have the shortcuts im used to - cube rotate on ctrl alt left/right
[16:59] <pawel> super e for expo compiz plugin etc
[16:59] <Daskreech> pawel: to get the desktop cube press alt+F3 and go to windows properties -> desktop effects -> on desktop switch -> Cube
[17:00] <Daskreech> then switch the keyboard shortcuts to whatever you like
[17:01] <pawel> aha
[17:01] <pawel> but just out of curiosity
[17:01] <pawel> compiz settings manager allows to edit shortcuts for each effect
[17:01] <pawel> why arent they working in kde?
[17:03] <Daskreech> because they are compiz shortcuts
[17:03] <Daskreech> when you switch the window manager you also switch all global shortcuts
[17:04] <Daskreech> wouldn't make sense to keep them if you swapped out the window manager
[17:04] <Daskreech> pawel: Makes sense?
[17:04] <pawel> hm thought i just had that : i use compiz-icon which has menu allowing to select window manager between kwin and compiz - compiz is set yet what we were just talking about seems to be kwin
[17:05] <Daskreech> It is it looks like.
[17:05] <Daskreech> If you want compiz back just run compiz --replace on the command line
[17:06] <Daskreech> which should get everything back the way you want
[17:06] <pawel> oh i just reloaded window manager and it works now
[17:06] <pawel> fantastic
[17:06] <Daskreech> There you go
[17:06] <pawel> muchos gracias
[17:06] <Daskreech> no problemo :)
[17:07] <BluesKaj> I have only 3 faces on the so called cube in compiz , what happened to the 4th one?
[17:08] <Daskreech> add a fourth desktop ?
[17:20] <Tm_T> hi kids
[17:20] <Whipper_> hi grandpa
[17:26] <phoenixz> When running amarok or dragon player, I get a popup message saying that the program recommends me to install aditional packages to get extra functionality.. Problem is, it does not say WHICH packages I have to install.. :) Could anybody here help me with a list of what packages I have to install?
[17:30] <Adrian> holas
[17:30] <ubuntu> slt tous le monde
[17:30] <Adrian> afe,omadps
[17:30] <Adrian> afeminados
[17:30] <Daskreech> phoenixz: Does it actually play what you are trying to play?
[17:30] <genii> !ar | Adrian
[17:31] <ubuntu> SVP commet changer la langue du clavier sous kubuntu
[17:31] <Daskreech> argentina?
[17:31] <Daskreech> Seriusly?
[17:31] <Adrian> yes
[17:31] <genii> Daskreech: Thats what his hostmask indicates.
[17:32] <Mamarok> right, just missed the frenchie :(
[17:32] <Daskreech> I'm just amused there is a chan for it
[17:33] <genii> Daskreech: I'm amused we have chans like #ubuntu-ca #ubuntu-uk
[17:34] <Adrian>
[17:34] <Daskreech> That is terribly amusing
[17:34] <Daskreech> !ca
[17:34]  * Daskreech chuckles
[17:35] <Daskreech> What's the prerequisite for getting a #kubuntu-X chan?
[17:37] <genii> Daskreech: Asking this in -ops
[17:38] <phoenixz> Daskreech: No, can't play anything...
[17:39] <Daskreech> phoenixz: then install libxine1-ffmpeg
[17:40] <Guest15370> Can  the Kubuntu9.04 run on a 512 MB RAM & 128MB VGA without problem?
[17:41] <Adrian> can kubuntu 9.04 run on a comodore 64 ?
[17:41] <Adrian> :P
[17:41] <Ash-Fox> !rsync
[17:41] <genii> Adrian: No. But another version of linux can.
[17:41] <Guest15370> What
[17:42] <Adrian> thx genii
[17:42] <phoenixz> Daskreech: thanks!
[17:42] <Guest15370> Can you answer my question? Can the Kubuntu9.04 run on a 512 MB RAM & 128MB VGA without problem?
[17:42] <genii> Guest15370: 512 mb of ram is enough to run it.  However, testing konqueror it tells me that javascript is disabled. I went to konqueror setting and javascript seems enabled!  However, testing konqueror it tells me that javascript is disabled. I went to konqueror setting and javascript seems enabled! Can someone advise me please?
[18:05] <genii> templars: Short of a complete reinstall, you could try http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html       But of course 9.04/kde3 is totally unsupported.
[18:05] <templars> IS THERE A WEB BROWSER THAT WORKS OUT THERE !!!!!!!!!!!! jesus christ !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:05] <templars> i just installed epiphany
[18:05] <templars> god awful
[18:06] <sebsebseb> !caps |  templars
[18:06] <templars> it displays text in bright blue
[18:06] <sebsebseb> templars: nah Epiphany is nice in Gnome same for Galeon
[18:06] <templars> why do the web browsers suck for linux
[18:06] <sebsebseb> templars: ,but in that horrible KDE4,  probably not that nice
[18:06] <templars> Epiphany sucks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> KDE3 :)
[18:07] <templars> kubuntu sucks.
[18:07] <templars> i gotta get Debian on this
[18:07] <sebsebseb> templars:  Opera?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> templars: Seamonkey?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> !browsers
[18:07] <livingdaylight_> templars: that's what i've been finding out too :/
[18:07] <sebsebseb> templars: Debian has that Iceweasel nonsense instead of Firefox
[18:08] <sebsebseb> templars: since Firefox wasn't 100% free or whatever geez
[18:08] <Pici> No one is forcing you to stay here if you don't want to run Kubuntu.
[18:08] <mprice> Iceweasel is basically firefox renamed
[18:08] <sebsebseb> yep with a differnet logo and user agent string hum
[18:08] <sebsebseb> which doesn't help with browser market share statistics
[18:08] <livingdaylight_> Pici: can you tell me why konqueror isn't playing youtube despite javascript apparently being enabled?
[18:08] <Pici> And we've strayed offtopic again...
[18:09] <phh> livingdaylight_: flash player installed ?
[18:09] <livingdaylight_> phh: yes
[18:09] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: that's a point,  you get a differnet plugin for Konqueror for Flash I think
[18:09] <Pici> livingdaylight_: I don't personally use konquerer
[18:09] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: maybe not
[18:09] <livingdaylight_> phh: youtube works in my firefox and seamonkey browsers
[18:09] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: have you got Flash at all in Konqueror?
[18:09] <phh> livingdaylight_: it shows in konqueror's setting ?
[18:09] <mprice> is the flash plugin showing in konqueror under plugins
[18:10] <livingdaylight_> sebsebseb: i didn't know i had to install it in konqueror. how do i do that?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: not sure
[18:10] <mprice> sometimes you have to point konqueror to the correct location of flashplayer.so
[18:11] <livingdaylight_> Pici: i have never used konq either.. but FF is consuming 100% of my processor and heating it up to dangerous levels, so i'm looking for another browser, at least on this laptop. Seamonkey seems the best choice so far, but it also has problems in Ubuntu
[18:11] <phh> livingdaylight_: it's most likely is flash player which consumes that much cpu ...
[18:11] <phh> (enve if firefox helps a lot itself)
[18:12] <sebsebseb> yeah the buggy Adobe Flash Player
[18:12] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: I think Gnash and Swfdec might be good enough for Youtube now
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !Gnash
[18:12] <Daskreech> |gonzo| USB install?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !swfdec
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !find swfdec
[18:12] <mprice> gnash is so-so  and I never have tried Swfdec
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !info swfdec
[18:13] <Daskreech> konrad_: ~/.kde
[18:13] <Pici> !msgthebot
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Pici: well yeah, but  wanted it to say something about Swfdec :)
[18:13] <Daskreech> !kde3 | templars
[18:14] <livingdaylight_> phh: its not doing it in seamonkey... but seamonkey doesn't let me add-on diigo toolbar etc
[18:14] <alan-j> I just noticed running "synaptic" from krunner doesn't run it as root (i.e. via kdesudo).  I thought this worked (in 9.04), am I misremembering?
[18:14] <sebsebseb> is KDE3 for 9.04 final now?  just  aptitude it?   have both KDE3 and 4?
[18:14] <Pici> sebsebseb: You can search for the factoid yourself in a query and then use the proper command to trigger that in the channel.  Thats what I do.  I have a dedicated query window for ubottu
[18:14] <konrad_> Daskreech: Yes I found ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail but somehow subfolders seem to be missing. Also I'm missing my contacts. (Will search a litte more, but any help is appreciated)
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Pici: yeah every now and again I do stuf in PM with ubottu as well
[18:15] <ubuntu__> hi all
[18:16] <ubuntu__> i nee help please
[18:16] <ubuntu__> i need help !!!
[18:16] <Pici> !ask
[18:17] <Daskreech> sebsebseb: Been for a while. It's not done by canonical so it's not supported
[18:17] <sebsebseb> I read can install the packages
[18:17] <sebsebseb> from repo though
[18:17] <sebsebseb> just put kde3 at the end
[18:18] <ubuntu__> how i install kubuntu with xp ,,,????
[18:18] <mprice> like dual-booting?
[18:18] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: how do you want it installed?
[18:18] <ubuntu__> yeah
[18:18] <mprice> !dualboot | ubuntu__
[18:19] <BigPatice_> if your duel booting with xp then just start the computer with the disk, follow the install instructions,
[18:19] <Daskreech> alan-j: kdesudo ?
[18:19] <Daskreech> dang it
[18:19] <BigPatice_> then when you get to the partition formatting pay close attention to how it will divide your disk up, make sure you are able to parition off
[18:20] <BigPatice_> a spot for the kubuntu. I have done this at least a dozen times with no issues
[18:20] <sebsebseb> ubuntu__: if your not going to do say Windows 3D gaming,  and have enough RAM, you can virtual machine XP nicely inside Kubuntu
[18:20] <ubuntu__> look
[18:20] <ubuntu__> i like install kubuntu in D
[18:21] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: YOu want to install it inside of Windows?
[18:21] <BigPatice_> know which drive is which by size or uuid
[18:21] <ubuntu__> no
[18:21] <ubuntu__> i have 2 drive
[18:21] <ubuntu__> c = 110 GB
[18:21] <ubuntu__> and D = 120 GB
[18:21] <BigPatice_> you need to reboot and run the install straight from boot
[18:21] <templars> linux sucks.
[18:22] <sebsebseb> the troll left :d
[18:22] <Daskreech> ok well if you start the install then you will get to a partition editor. If you are still lost there then let us know
[18:22] <BigPatice_> if you know your d is 120gb then you make sure in the formatting you pick that disk
[18:22] <BigPatice_> formatting = partitioner
[18:23] <ubuntu__> i cant speek english very well so can i speek frensh
[18:24] <BigPatice_> not to me my french is worse than your english
[18:24] <Daskreech> !fr
[18:24] <dwidmann> !fr
[18:25] <ubuntu__> now i'am in step 4
[18:25] <Daskreech> But if you want help here we can help :)
[18:25] <ubuntu__> i read use the entire diskk or specify partitin manually
[18:26] <BigPatice_> if you dont need anything on it i reccomend using the entire disk
[18:26] <ubuntu__> no
[18:26] <ubuntu__> i need
[18:26] <ubuntu__> i don(t like delete windows
[18:26] <sebsebseb> livingdaylight_: any luck?
[18:26] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: you selected the second disk ?
[18:27] <BigPatice_> if you have info on your d drive then back it up, then use entire disk. it is easier.  you wont delete your windows that way
[18:27] <Daskreech> BigPatice_: Bad advice
[18:27] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: What is on D now ?
[18:28] <ubuntu__> d is empty
[18:28] <livingdaylight_> sebsebseb: no, i've given up, since no one in kubuntu help me get this kde app working; so, i'm using Seamonkey... its prolly better anhow
[18:29] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: How much space would you like Kubuntu to use?
[18:29] <Daskreech> livingdaylight_: Which app ?
[18:29] <ubuntu__> i like 50 GB
[18:29] <livingdaylight_> Daskreech: konqueror
[18:29] <Daskreech> livingdaylight_: What's up?
[18:30] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: ok How much RAM do you have?
[18:30] <ubuntu__> 512
[18:30] <Daskreech> ubuntu__: Might want more swap then
[18:30] <livingdaylight_> Daskreech: flash seems disabled as i can't play youtubes. Checked and java script seems enabled which was the error dialog i was getting
[18:31] <livingdaylight_> Daskreech: and i just don't know how to enable flash in konqueror if that is what actually needs fixing
[18:31] <Daskreech> make a 48.5 GB / and a 1.5 GB swap partition
[18:31] <Daskreech> livingdaylight_: Looked in the plugins section of the settings?
[18:32] <Daskreech> It should show Flash. IF not then click scan for plugins
[18:32]  * livingdaylight_ checks
[18:33] <livingdaylight_> Daskreech: i scanned and its come up with a bunch /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashp... do i highlight and 'apply' ?
[18:40] <Daskreech> livingdaylight_: yes
[18:56] <ncfi1013_> anybody know why some of my dial;og windows open within the area of my screen and some do not?
[19:01] <Mamarok> ncfi1013_: the area of your screen? what do you mean?
[19:02] <Mamarok> there are dialog windows which ask you for an interaction
[19:02] <Mamarok> and there are notifications of ongoing processes that reside in the panel AFAIK
[19:17] <adrian> hi everybody
[19:21] <pharmacopeia> Hi
[19:23] <Haomaru> Hi
[19:24] <Haomaru> I'm from Brazil!
[19:25] <Pici> !br | Haomaru (
[19:27] <Haomaru> Algum Brasileiro??
[19:28] <Pici> Haomaru: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:29] <Haomaru> Olá
[19:29] <robw> hello
[19:29] <eagles0513875> !pt | Haomaru
[19:32] <Haomaru> Olá
[19:44] <eagles0513875> hey guys how do i change my keyboard layout
[19:44] <Ab3L> ciao
[19:44] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: system settings -> regional & language
[19:47] <tmartins> I suppose this has already been discussed, but... any particular reason for not placing 4.2.3 in the main repository?
[19:48] <EagleScreen> 4.2.3 may be in jaunty-updates after a good testing in ppa
[19:49] <EagleScreen> this is the usual tendency of Kubuntu in its last two distributions
[19:53] <rzuckk> alguien ene sta sala ke hable  español ?
[19:54] <BluesKaj> !es
[19:55] <Magicman1264> Hello all
[19:55] <rzuckk> grcinhas
[19:59] <Magicman1264> Can anyone help me? I can't play certain video files and I'm getting a message saying I need to download SWFDEC
[20:06] <Laeborg> does kubuntu 64bit run well?
[20:06] <sere_> i need help....im trying to set up my tvout so i can watch a movie on my tv and then do work on the computer but when i do " X :1 -layout tv " i get an error saying(EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[20:06] <pulaski> hello, I have a usb 4 port hub.  kubuntu automatically recognizes my usb thumb drive when I plug it in however I have a T-Mobile G1 phone with a usb connector that it doesn't recognize automatically.  How can I find the appropriate device and mount it?
[20:07] <spiderlinux> hi
[20:07] <sere_> here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/176623/
[20:09] <spiderlinux> could pleaase somebody explain why thunderbird on kubuntu 9,4 does not start after decopressing to a new folder and klicking on the thunderbird script?
[20:10] <spiderlinux> with firefox this worked fine
[20:10] <fritzIsOnline> hi all folkies, all forums are upside down but i couldn get the right solution, that sounds a toy of a child but please help me, when i insert any dvd or cd it absolutely mounts but down show the content by a critical message says "now allowed" !!???
[20:10] <fritzIsOnline> oop "not allowed" i mean
[20:11] <GinoManGFs> coreyman1: kdesu
[20:11] <GinoManGFs> damn scrollback
[20:11] <GinoManGFs> that's ridiculous that it keeps getting caught like that
[20:12] <spiderlinux> has anyone instelles thunderbird on kubuntu?
[20:12] <fritzIsOnline> spiderlinux: i installed
[20:12] <GinoManGFs> sudo aptitude install *thunderbird*
[20:12] <spiderlinux> how to start it after decompressing?
[20:13] <fritzIsOnline> i installed it by Adept Package Manager
[20:13] <spiderlinux> is this adept manager eassy to install ?
[20:13] <fritzIsOnline> guides you through all installing processes that needed
[20:14] <sere_> anyone have any knowledge with nvidia and separate tv screens through the tvout
[20:15] <spiderlinux> ok thanks for now
[20:15] <fritzIsOnline> i can't see the content of any cd / dvd which surely mounted, i get "not allowed" message. what should i check ?
[20:22] <spiderlinux> wow i have found "KpackageKit" it shows 20 differend thunderbird papckages and there is no button to install :(
[20:23] <spiderlinux> hey it works... i think
[20:23] <spiderlinux> thanks  for the hint, cu
[20:24] <Magicman1264> Can anyone help me? I can't play certain video files and I'm getting a message saying I need to download SWFDEC
[20:28] <pulaski> How do I mount a usb devise?
[20:29] <pulaski> device that is....
[20:29] <desu> Magicman1264: install flashplugin-installer
[20:29] <desu> *flashplugin-nonfree
[20:30] <desu> pulaski: `sudo fdisk -l' and see which devcice is the one you're looking for and then do 'sudo mount <device> <directory>'
[20:30] <Dragnslcr> desu- you were right the first time
[20:30] <desu> pulaski: though you should be able to click on it in device manager and mount it automatically...
[20:31] <desu> Dragnslcr: ah, sorry...
[20:32] <pulaski> desu: Thanks for responding, I'll try it!
[20:36] <phoenixz> Is there anything known about firefox totally messing up page rendering (specially text gets mangled) of all web pages? its like okay for one hour.. then little by little pages sstart to degrade.. first a few letters.. then entire words, and 30 mins later all web pages have become unreadable..
[20:38] <desu> phoenixz: you know the little bugs that make up the characters? they too get tired...  they need to rest... let them rest...
[20:39] <phoenixz> desu: very very funny..
[20:39] <desu> :D
[20:39] <desu> lol, sorry...
[20:40] <phoenixz> yeah.. well, right now even after restarting firefox.. it stays the same.. all characters are  mixed up, as if its picking all characters from the UTF8 table using rand() function
[20:42] <desu> phoenixz: try filing a bug...
[20:44] <pulaski> desu: I recently upgraded to 'jaunty jackalope' kubuntu 9.02 or some simialr version.  So far I've been unable to find a device manager.  However dmesg tells me my thumb drive is mounted on '
[20:44] <pulaski> [    9.117459] usb-storage: device scan complete
[20:44] <pulaski> [    9.120422] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[20:45] <desu> pulaski: you see the little monitor-like icon in the panel with a cd popping out from it? click on it
[20:45] <pulaski> desu: yeah, hold on please
[20:46] <pulaski> desu: Yes however it only displays the storage volume vfat which is my thumb drive.
[20:47] <desu> well?
[20:47] <desu> that's exactly what you want, isn't it?
[20:49] <pulaski> desu: Well no, that's my thumb drive, I want to access my phone. Its plugged into my usb hub right next to the thumb drive.
 [    9.120422] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 <--- that is not your phone D:
[20:51] <pulaski> desu: no, that's my thumb drive
[20:51] <desu> pulaski: do a `tail -f -n1 /var/log/messages' and then plug in your phone
[20:51] <desu> pulaski: then paste what you see on rafb.net/paste
[20:51] <pulaski> desu: thanks
[20:58] <pulaski> desu: Sorry it doesn't appear very helpful:  http://rafb.net/p/noDrbD86.html
[20:58] <desu> pulaski: ???
[20:58] <desu> that is that?
[20:58] <desu> *what
[20:59] <desu> did you plug in your phone after doing `tail -n1 -f /var/log/messages'?
[20:59] <pulaski> desu: that's all
[20:59] <desu> so, nothing happens when you plug in your phone?
[21:03] <pulaski> desu: I ran  `tail -n1 -f /var/log/messages' with the phone unplugged then ran it again after the phone was plugged in with the same result.
[21:03] <Eismann> pulaski: or try "sudo udevadm monitor" and plug the phone
[21:05] <desu> pulaski: you're supposed to plug in the phone while that command is running...
[21:05] <desu> also, yeah, try to see if udevadm gives some output
[21:05] <pulaski> desu: Yes, that's the procedure I'm following ....
[21:05] <desu> hmm...
[21:06] <desu> is your phone in data mode?
[21:06] <bendodge_> Why doesn't installing plasmoids from the internet work? I'm using KDE 4.2.2 and Jaunty
[21:06] <pulaski> desu: so far nothing is showing up
[21:06] <bendodge_> I always get an error as if it's trying to use a nonexistent temp file.
[21:06] <desu> pulaski: does your phone work on windows?
[21:07] <pulaski> desu: Sorry I wouldn't know.  Its the new T-Mobile G1 phone with the Android OS
[21:08]  * desu has no idea :/
[21:09] <pulaski> desu: I'm going to go to the Library this afternoon.  I can plug my thumb drive in the windows machine there.  I can try to plug my phone in there as well.
[21:09] <bendodge_> The "Get Hot New Stuff" (GHNS) window downloads a widget and marks it installed. When I close the online widget browser, GHNS, the Add Widgets window throws errors about tmp files. It appears that the GHNS app is deleting the widgets from tmp before the Add Widget app actually install the widgets.
[21:09] <drbobb> hmm my machine's 1GB of RAM isn't much for kde4, I'm already 1GB into swap
[21:10] <pulaski> desu: I appreciate your taking the time to help me out.  I'll be back and let you know how it turned out.
[21:10] <bendodge_> drbobb: I'm running KDE4 with 1GB ram, and my swap is 0.3GB
[21:10] <desu> pulaski: ah, thanks :)
[21:11] <Eismann> drbobb: do you have amarok 2.1beta?
[21:11] <drbobb> bendodge_: yeah I guess it depends how long you keep it up, and how many apps/gadgets & stuff you use
[21:11] <naresh> how to install pidgin in kubuntu
[21:12] <Eismann> naresh: apt-get install pidgin
[21:12] <drbobb> not too long ago my workstation had just 1GB of ram, and I kept kde3 running on it for weeks on end with no major issues
[21:13] <bendodge_> drbobb: what about the amarok question? newer amarok versions are major hogs
[21:13] <Eismann> drbobb: yep, I have a 13 days uptime, but i had to relogin into KDE sometimes
[21:14] <Eismann> I think that the amarok beta from ppa has memory leaks
[21:14] <drbobb> Eismann: no I have the one that comes standard with jaunty. And it's not in use now
[21:15] <drbobb> (and frankly speaking, it's ugliness is major)
[21:15] <drbobb> s/it's/its/
[21:15] <bendodge_> its :)
[21:15] <naresh> Eismann: hey thanks but it worked only when i added sudo infront of it
[21:15] <bendodge_> yeah, it needs a major makeover
[21:16] <drbobb> I tried exaile for a change but I'm not too happy with it either
[21:17] <Eismann> install kde3
[21:17] <Eismann> :-P
[21:17] <kirun> I'm thinking of getting a netbook, but I want to work on stuff on my desktop PC from it, probably just web dev and small coding projects ... am I better off sharing files, or working with something like NX?
[21:19] <naresh> do i need a antivirus for kubuntu or anyother security measure can be taken to be secure
[21:20] <Dekans> naresh:  no need
[21:20] <Dekans> it's safe enough
[21:20] <kirun> To be secure, follow the usual precautions ( don't run code from sources you don't trust, and so on )
[21:20] <naresh> ok thanks but do we need to have firewall like firestarter
[21:21] <drbobb> Eismann: you know of anyother music player that makes sense?
[21:21] <Eismann> drbobb: nope
[21:22] <Eismann> I dont like what they did to amarok2
[21:22] <naresh> which is the latest version of wine
[21:22] <Eismann> although 2.1 looks better
[21:23] <Eismann> maybe because 2.1 looks more like amarok 1 :-P
[21:26] <drbobb> I installed songbird on my ol'lady's laptop and it seemed pretty swell, though kind of heavy
[21:27] <Dekans> naresh: firestarter is just a frontend
[21:27] <Dekans> firewall is already in place
[21:28] <Dekans> I don't know for vlc, you should see it in kpackagekit
[21:28] <Dekans> try adept
[21:30] <jacinto> hi
[21:32] <drbobb> and it's not present in the ubuntu repos
[21:32] <drbobb> (hers is windows)
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[21:59] <dwidmann>  ActionParsnip: yo
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[22:01] <dwidmann> Yep
[22:21] <KornSucks> Hiya
[22:25] <tyfon> hmm.. anyone know a program i can use to capture the screen in kde4 with composting enabled?.. all my attempts produce only the top left part of the screen when i use the cube or something like that
[22:25] <tyfon> video that is
[22:28] <ign0ramus> tyfon, not sure, but have you tried scrot?
[22:28] <tyfon> nope
[22:28] <tyfon> :)
[22:29] <tyfon> ah no that is only for image, i need video
[22:29] <tyfon> tried xvidcap and istanbul
[22:29] <tyfon> and recordmydesktop
[22:29] <ign0ramus> tyfon, oh, and recordmydesktop doesn't work?
[22:29] <ign0ramus> oh, ok
[22:29] <tyfon> when i use the cube, it will only capture the top left quarter of my display (1 virtual desktop)
[22:30] <tyfon> or it seems like that is what happens
[22:30] <tyfon> so i cant see the whole cube in the video :p
[22:30] <ign0ramus> tyfon, i know what you mean... :/
[22:31] <ign0ramus> tyfon, something obviously exists to do this... just check youtube for 'compiz'... now to find out what they use
[22:31] <tyfon> they use the ones i wrote :o
[22:31] <tyfon> but there must be some mystical option for it
[22:31] <tyfon> i need to show someone that i can play 1080p video via vdpau while turning the cube and having only 10% cpu load :p
[22:32] <Magicman1264> HI, How do I get Java plugin for Ubuntu?
[22:33] <tyfon> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted extras or kubuntu-restricted-extras depending on which one you have
[22:33] <ign0ramus> tyfon, good luck with those restrictions :P
[22:33] <tyfon> ign0ramus: the computer does it fine.. but maybe not while capturing :p
[22:33] <tyfon> and the video plays smoothly on one side of the cube
[22:34] <ign0ramus> tyfon, did you read this? : http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/faq.php#Some_windows_are_not_recorded!
[22:35] <tyfon> hmm
[22:35] <tyfon> i tried --full-shots too
[22:35] <tyfon> but not shm :p
[22:36] <tyfon> oh its on by default
[22:36] <KornSucks> how does one install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic ?
[22:36] <KornSucks> apt-get doesent work
[22:37] <tyfon> ign0ramus: ah got it to work now =)
[22:37] <ign0ramus> tyfon, what parameter was it?
[22:37] <tyfon> i did recordmydesktop -fps 15 --no-sound -o desktop.ogv --full-shots
[22:38] <ign0ramus> i thought you were already trying --full-shots?
[22:38] <tyfon> yeah but i recorded a video without it first
[22:38] <tyfon> and forgot to delete it :S
[22:39] <ign0ramus> tyfon, lol
[22:39] <tyfon> and it saved to a new name
[22:39] <KornSucks> where is the source code located? i have to tweak some stuff in the kernel
[22:40] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, what exactly do you want to tweak in the kernel?
[22:40] <KornSucks> ign0ramus:   http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[22:40] <KornSucks> i have to do that stuff
[22:41] <tyfon> hmm it doesnt capture the vdpau video, but i suspected that :p
[22:41] <tyfon> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[22:42] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, you have to re-compile a custom kernel... OR
[22:42] <KornSucks> yeah i was gonna turn that stuff on. recompile, and have grub point to it
[22:42] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, as the tut says, this is included in >= 2.6.25
[22:42] <KornSucks> oh
[22:42] <KornSucks> well i have 2.6.27
[22:42] <KornSucks> so why does wireless suck ?
[22:42] <KornSucks> and it doesent in back track ?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, have you checked what modules are being loaded?
[22:43] <KornSucks> oh rigth i still need athk5
[22:43] <tyfon> hmm i have a computer with ath5k actually that works fine :o
[22:43] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, a quick diff could probably show you :)
[22:43] <tyfon> i can't say i remember doing anything funky
[22:44] <KornSucks> yeah i'll have to put teh backtrack cd back in
[22:44] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, bt4?
[22:44] <KornSucks> bt3
[22:44] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, i really want to try bt4, but i'm too lazy :(
[22:45] <KornSucks> yeah i downloaded the bt4 dvd iso,  when i have time im gonna mount it as loop, copy the files to my usb drive.  and then run the installer
[22:45] <KornSucks> for the boot sector
[22:45] <ign0ramus> KornSucks, does it have its own installer, or do you have to use an older version installer?
[22:46] <KornSucks> not sure
[22:47] <KornSucks> i havent opened it yet
[22:50] <SteBo> Hi! I'm using the KDE 4.3 Beta 1 packages with Kubuntu Jaunty. I want to use the new plasma theme for KDE 4.3. What do I need to do or install in order to do so? The new theme isn't available here right after the upgrade.
[22:51] <guja> Hello all. Ktorrent holds my download on stalled whenever I try to start it.
[22:51] <guja> Why?
[22:51] <guja> There are lots of seeders, thats for sure.
[22:51] <guja> Since Transmission is starting download.
[22:51] <SteBo> I think the theme is called "Air", isn't it?
[22:52] <ign0ramus> guja, probably port configuration or firewall/iptables...
[22:52] <guja> ign0ramus: suggestions? stop iptables or?
[22:52] <ign0ramus> guja, first check your ports
[22:53] <guja> ign0ramus: port 6881, UDP 4444. Is that okay?
[22:53] <ign0ramus> guja, are you behind a router?
[22:53] <guja> ign0ramus: nope, I don't use router.
[22:53] <ign0ramus> guja, then yes, they should be ok, provided your ISP doesn't block those ports
[22:54] <ign0ramus> guja, a quick way to check is to use high-numbered ports, like 50000
[22:54] <guja> ign0ramus: and final question - how do I stop iptables? :-)
[22:54] <guja> service iptables stop ?
[22:55] <ign0ramus> guja, you can check your config by doing "sudo iptables -L"
[22:55] <guja> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[22:55] <guja> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:55] <guja> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[22:55] <guja> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:55] <guja> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[22:55] <guja> target     prot opt source               destination
[22:55] <guja> That's the output.
[22:56] <ign0ramus> guja, that looks fine.  you can try "iptables stop" and try ktorrent again to see if that's the issue
[22:56] <guja> ign0ramus: iptables stop doesn't work.
[22:56] <guja> Wrong command.
[22:56] <KornSucks> whats a good intro to iptables
[22:56] <ign0ramus> guja, that used to work.... use 'man' or '-help'
[22:57] <ign0ramus> * '-h' or '--help'
[22:59] <dan> stopstop
[22:59] <dan> \
[22:59] <ign0ramus> guja, here's a good post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159661
[23:02] <ign0ramus> guja, alternatively, you can use an easy-to-use GUI if you want to change iptables policies
[23:02] <guja> Blah, to tired to even search how do I turn off the iptables.
[23:02] <ign0ramus> guja, try Firestarter or Guarddog
[23:02] <guja> I mean, am I blind or there's no simple command for turning off firewall?
[23:04] <tyfon> you can flush all the tables
[23:04] <guja> By doing iptables -F ?
[23:04] <tyfon> iptables -F <table> where table is FORWARD, INPUT, OUTPUT, POSTROUTING and PREROUTING
[23:05] <guja> And since I am a newbie, which table should I flush in my ktorrent case?
[23:05] <tyfon> well if you flush all of them you effectivly resets the firewall if you have any
[23:05] <SteBo> guja: yes, but you also have to check whether the default policy is ACCEPT before issuing this command.
[23:05] <tyfon> removing all chains setting the default policy to allow
[23:06] <SteBo> guja: When the policy is DROP and you do a iptables -F all network traffic would be dropped.
[23:06] <tyfon> ah
[23:06] <tyfon> yes
[23:06] <tyfon> :p
[23:06] <tyfon> that would be bad
[23:06] <TAdams> Hello all
[23:07] <TAdams> I have a question, where are the settings files for Konfigure so that I may restore everything from a backup?
[23:08] <ign0ramus> TAdams, is that a package?  I've never heard of it, but you can find all its files by doing a simple "locate konfigure"
[23:13] <SteBo> anybody knows something about my question?
[23:14] <dwidmann> SteBo: I'm pretty sure Air was the theme for KDE 4.2 also
[23:14] <dwidmann> or am I mistaken?
[23:15] <SteBo> dwidmann: the theme for KDE 4.2 is Oxygen
[23:15] <dwidmann> Hmm, the only part of the theme to do with air in 4.2 is the wallpaper then maybe
[23:16] <SteBo> dwidmann: correct, the default wallpaper for 4.2 is called "Luft" (German for Air).
[23:16] <devin_> hey whats up i installed ubuntu a while back but never got to use or was explained how it different from other oper sys
[23:16] <ign0ramus> it would be quite a faux pas if it were "Luftwaffe" :/
[23:17] <devin_> can someone help me out
[23:17] <dwidmann> Hm, seems to be called air here ... oddly enough ("/usr/share/wallpapers/Air/.....")
[23:17] <SteBo> devin_: What did you find with Google about this.
[23:17] <ign0ramus> devin_, that's quite a broad question... maybe start with the ubuntu web site
[23:17] <TAdams> ign0ramus: thank you, it did not work. It is a Irc chat client
[23:17] <SteBo> devin_: Maybe just read the Wikipedia article about Ubuntu and then ask concrete questions.
[23:18] <ign0ramus> TAdams, do you mean Konversation?
[23:18] <TAdams> I just do not want t import the full backup and screw up the way I have everything set now :P
[23:18] <TAdams> thank you!
[23:18] <TAdams> yes indeed
[23:18] <TAdams> Konversation
[23:18] <SteBo> dwidmann: Ah, perhaps this was localised? I'm on a German KDE anyways. :-)
[23:18] <devin_> ight thanks
[23:18] <TAdams> my appologies
[23:18] <ign0ramus> TAdams, that would be why i'd never heard of it :)
[23:19] <TAdams> lol
[23:19] <dwidmann> SteBo: probably that then
[23:19] <TAdams> I will just re enter it all, no problems
[23:19] <TAdams> thought maybe I could be lazy and find a quick way :P
[23:19] <TAdams> ign0ramus: thank you :)
[23:19] <ign0ramus> TAdams, np... if only all problems were that easy :)
[23:20] <TAdams> Indeed!
[23:26] <KornSucks> i can see my wlan0 under iwconfig, but iwlist wlan0 scanning returns 0 results
[23:26] <KornSucks> yet im with in range of my router
[23:26] <KornSucks> how is it my dads vista laptop can pick up the router, but linux crap cant ?
[23:27] <RainbowW> under gnome, my dual-head setup works well, and the desktop stretches across both screens. under kde, i can only get them to mirror. what's the magic pixie dust for setting up dual head under kde?
[23:28] <SteBo> Ok, this answers my question: http://broadbandforum.in/linux/46524-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-discussion-thread/#post312589
[23:38] <SteBo> bye
[23:39] <KornSucks> i have mad wifi and my wireless card still is not working
[23:39] <KornSucks> what do i have to type to make it work
[23:41] <tomsdale> hi - has anyone experieced artefacts in kwin. It's like some lines are shifted to the left.
[23:42] <tomsdale> happens especially often with font on buttons. it's like a strike through effect through the letters.
[23:57] <RainbowW> under gnome, my dual-head setup works well, and the desktop stretches across both screens. under kde, i can only get them to mirror. what's the magic pixie dust for setting up dual head under kde?