[00:00] <unop> zanberdo, right, so  touch "$foo"  or  touch "${foo}baz"
[00:00] <zanberdo> unop, and I should lean to just shut my pie hole otherwise...
[00:00] <younder> Mirux: You need samba to be continously mounted to your Windows disk
[00:00] <ichat> broken - yw ;)
[00:00] <Vixen_> filthpig, I know mate, I would just jack in windows right now, but I'm not brave enough xD
[00:00] <DarkRavin> ok i need help i installed the supybot and now i cant find it can someone help
[00:00] <mzz> Linux-User: not sure. Blacklisting that module (assuming you don't use it) might help. There's a file under /etc/ for that.
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> zanberdo:  the advanced-bash-scripting guide - is worth reading a few dozen times. :)
[00:00] <Mirux> younder, can't i do this over lan?
[00:00] <Vixen_> Besides, I'm sticking around here until all my files have been replicated
[00:00] <unop> Dr_Willis, the ABS is quite flawed .. to be honest.
[00:00] <zanberdo> Dr_Willis, amen brother
[00:01]  * molinero Ubuntu lives!
[00:01] <RHorse> does anyone have a copy of bxmenu.bx they can send me?
[00:01] <Mirux> younder, I have internet on win xp virtualized, so do I have network.
[00:01] <Linux-User> mzz thx, where exactly i've to search for?
[00:01] <amanda-b> funkyHat, messing with initramfs ... is doing so well documented? i'm using a stock 9.02 kernel. the last thing i need is to spend three hours jacking with a system that won't boot.
[00:01] <younder> Mirux: Sure But you need WINS
[00:01] <zanberdo> I trust I can get a swift kicking in #bash were I to suggest I knew a fraction of what they seem to know... heh
[00:01] <kesiode> since upgrade to 9.04 my emacs fg and bg colors are back to the defaults.. Does anyone know how to change it?  I think it used my theme by default before nad I'm not sure why it isn't now.
[00:01] <Mirux> younder, what do you mean? I don't get it, sorry.
[00:02] <mzz> Linux-User: probably /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but check
[00:02] <younder> Mirux: Which meansthe product package Samba
[00:02] <younder> Mirux: sudo apt-et intsall samba
[00:02] <younder> apt-get
[00:02] <Mirux> younder, I do have samba installed on my ubuntu system
[00:02] <GARRETTN> someone say norris g
[00:02] <Mirux> younder, configured as well.
[00:02] <ichat> afk - (unless  higlighted ) - brb - ;
[00:03] <funkyHat> amanda-b: it's quite easy, but I can't talk you through it as I'm chatting on my phone. googling ubuntu initramfs modules will probably help :)
[00:03] <DarkRavin> ok i need help i installed the supybot and now i cant find it can someone help
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> unop:  write your own then. :)
[00:03] <Vixen_> I'm such a bad open-source user. I'm even using mIRC on the #ubuntu channel =[
[00:03] <younder> Mirux: Then you have to SHARE your dis.
[00:03] <rob0917> If you run windows xp in virtual box in ubuntu ,do you need to run antivirus on the virtual windows/?
[00:03] <younder> disk
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> unop:  i just rember examples from it.. and go backto 'borrow' the code
[00:04] <funkyHat> amanda-b: if you get stuck ask anyway, I may still be able to help
[00:04] <unop> Dr_Willis,  i contribute to  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[00:04] <Mirux> younder, then I do not need to use svn?
[00:04] <Cakk> Can someone help me i cannot write in my ntfs external drive
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> unop:  you are the Bash-master! :)
[00:04] <Mirux> younder, I thought svn would be a better way to keep track of my versions, and at the same time, backing up changes and stuff.
[00:04] <Linux-User> mzz ok thx now i'll check. thx very much for your help.
[00:04] <unop> Dr_Willis, i wouldn't say that - i just like it :)
[00:04] <Mirux> younder, I can do that like... share a folder and copy the whole project folder from win xp to ubuntu but..
[00:05] <younder> Mirux: Just share the directory with the svn source
[00:05] <Mirux> younder, i thought having a svn server on my ubuntu and comitting the changes via lan would be better.
[00:05] <Mirux> mm
[00:05] <funkyHat> rob0917: my solution is to make a snapshot and boot from that every time, but if you need to update it I would install anti-virus yeah
[00:05] <Mirux> And then?
[00:05] <owned> if I have a RAID 1 (fake raid) array set up with XP installed on it, is it possible to just disconnect one of the HDs and still have my same XP on a single hard drive?
[00:05] <Vixen_> Cakk, what're you trying to do?
[00:05] <rob0917> thank you
[00:06] <younder> Mirux: Set up the firewall so it is not accessible from the internet though
[00:06] <Cakk> write files to my external hard drive
[00:06] <ninza> anyone else having an ATI radeon graphics card on dell studio have trouble with maximizing/minimizing windows when they ugraded ubuntu to 9.04?
[00:06] <Cakk> it keeps saying read only
[00:06] <linxeh> "fake raid" ?
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> could someone help me with a simple question?
[00:06] <amanda-b> funkyHat, aye, docs are sufficient usually :-)
[00:06] <Mirux> 8(
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> How can I view php files in firefox?
[00:06] <owned> fake raid means it has some hardware raid but requires software for it to work
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> I installed php5 and apache
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> its running
[00:06] <carrie-anne> mohamed
[00:06] <carrie-anne> hi
[00:06] <Vixen_> Cakk, right click and have a look if the device is set to read only
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> but now firefox downloads it and doesn;t display it
[00:06] <AmnesiaUK> anyone?
[00:07] <AmnesiaUK> apache says: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[00:07] <Vixen_> Cakk, I think I'm able to write to NTFS when I run ubuntu
[00:07] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: you need to install libapache2-mod-php
[00:07] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, I did
[00:07] <Cakk> i typed cat /etc/mtab and i get /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ntfs rw 0 0
[00:07] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch Server at localhost Port 80
[00:07] <ichat> AmnesiaUK:  and install php as an aplication- thing you your httpd.conf -  rtm
[00:07] <ekennedy> irc://irc.freenode.net#webgui
[00:07] <zanberdo> linxeh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks (search "fake")
[00:08] <liox_> good night, I have a notebook with ATI Xpress 200 someone has a solution to ubuntu ati drivers and 9:04?
[00:08] <Vixen_> Cakk, to be honest, I probably know less than you, ask one of the others here xD
[00:08] <AmnesiaUK> ichat, how?
[00:08] <younder> a web server is totally irrelevant to the display of a web browser
[00:08] <liox_> plisss
[00:08] <ciccio85> ciao
[00:08] <DarkRavin> ok i need help i installed the supybot and now i cant find it can someone help
[00:08] <Vixen_> ciao
[00:08] <Cakk> late
[00:08] <carrie-anne> hi
[00:08] <ichat> RTM -   im sorry to say im not sure i remember correctly
[00:08] <Cakk> vixen
[00:08] <Vixen_> Aye?
[00:08] <Cakk> do you know how to unmount drives
[00:08] <esde> ok so i have a problem with terminal in the desktop
[00:09] <linxeh> zanberdo: why not just say "software raid" then ?
[00:09] <Vixen_> Cakk, uuhh, should just be right click > unmount
[00:09] <owned> b/c its not software raid
[00:09] <owned> its like a mix of both
[00:09] <zanberdo> linxeh, not really the same thing
[00:09] <esde> i need to hide everything around the window
[00:09] <esde> LIKE conky
[00:09] <Cakk> mm
[00:09] <baseranger> I NEED SOFTWARES
[00:09] <ciccio85> ho bisogno di aiuto
[00:09] <liox_> good night, I have a notebook with ATI Xpress 200 someone has a solution to ubuntu ati drivers and 9:04?
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[00:09] <FloodBot1> jake_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <owned> software raid is really easy w/ linux.. unfortunately fake raid is very hard
[00:09] <linxeh> it is
[00:09] <zanberdo> linxeh, sf raid is raid provided by means of sw, such as madam, however, fakeraid is raid provided by a bios that is not true "raid" and is therefore fake
[00:09] <funkyHat> ichat: you are confusing ubuntu for a distro that doesn't set up apache to work for you
[00:10] <baseranger> I NEED A TEACHER
[00:10] <zanberdo> linxeh, it's confusing until you run into it.
[00:10] <liox_> pliss
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[00:10] <FloodBot1> jake_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <younder> linxeh: Take some ggod advice and don't use it. It is not stable.
[00:10] <RHorse> any BitchX users out there? I need bxmenu.bx, please
[00:10] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: try this: sudo a2enmod php
[00:10] <younder> good
[00:10] <zanberdo> linxeh, fake-raid = bad
[00:10] <linxeh> zanberdo: the hpt370 cards were "fake raid"
[00:10] <unop> !ops | jake_ flooding the room
[00:10] <linxeh> zanberdo: I know. I don't use it
[00:10] <ichat> ifunkyhat im sorry - not used to auto config apache :blush)
[00:10] <zanberdo> linxeh, ah, well, there you go. :)
[00:10] <owned> if I have a fake raid array set up with XP on it can I just get rid of a HD and use it as a single drive, no raid, keeping the same XP install?
[00:10] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, module php5 already enbabled
[00:11] <AmnesiaUK> enabled*
[00:11] <zanberdo> owned, nope
[00:11] <jake_>  funkyHat, messing with initramfs ... is doing so well documented? i'm using a stock 9.02 kernel. the last thing i need is to spend three hours jacking with a system that won't boot.
[00:11] <jake_>  Mirux: Sure But you need WINS
[00:11] <jake_>  I trust I can get a swift kicking in #bash were I to suggest I knew a fraction of what they seem to know... heh
[00:11] <jake_>  since upgrade to 9.04 my emacs fg and bg colors are back to the defaults.. Does anyone know how to change it?  I think it used my theme by default before nad I'm not sure why it isn't now.
[00:11] <owned> ><
[00:11] <FloodBot1> jake_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:11] <jake_>  younder, what do you mean? I don't get it, sorry.
[00:11] <funkyHat> ichat: :) a2enmod, a2ensite etc. are nice
[00:11] <zanberdo> owned, rather, "I doubt it"
[00:11] <owned> is there anything I can do to get rid of fake raid w/o reinstalling XP
[00:11] <Mirux> :S
[00:11] <ichat> own you MAY not to than repair your windows and  remove the raid driver (
[00:11] <javyn> hey
[00:11] <javyn> is there a video editor in linux?  like vegas?
[00:11] <ichat> Need
[00:11] <zanberdo> owned, hmmm.... let me think... I don't believe there is.
[00:11] <esde> i followed the tut http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop and my terminal has a window border and top bar still. can someone help me remove it??
[00:11] <zanberdo> owned, but you can always google! :)
[00:12] <Flannel> RHorse: BitchX hasn't been in Ubuntu for a bit now, due to the poor security record.  It's recommended that you switch to a more secure client.
[00:12] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: what have you named your php file?
[00:12] <DisabledDuck> i have 9.04 hooked up through hdmi on one of my PCs, i have tested to verify that the system is capable of playing audio through HDMI (i did a test through terminal) but how do i set it so that all sounds from my system are outputted through HDMI?
[00:12] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, test.php
[00:12] <ichat> owned - ar you using  mirrored raid i hope?
[00:12] <kesiode> anyone know why emacs under 9.04 doesn't use my theme?   It does under the older dists..
[00:12] <esde> i followed the tut http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop and my terminal has a window border and top bar still. can someone help me remove it??
[00:13] <owned> yes ichat
[00:13] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, it tells me httpd isnt enabled
[00:13] <owned> I'm using raid 1
[00:13] <RHorse> Flannel thanks for the heads up. I just started trying it out in Feisty!
[00:13] <AmnesiaUK> oh nvm bout that
[00:13] <furythor> Hello, is there some game related community channel ?
[00:13] <Flannel> RHorse: Feisty isn't supported anymore either, for what its worth.  I suggest upgrading to Hardy, and for a client, try irssi.
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[00:13] <jake_> [19:06] <jake>  someone say norris g
[00:13] <jake_> [19:06] <jake>  younder, configured as well.
[00:13] <FloodBot1> jake_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <Mirux> younder, when i try to commit it says the repository has uuid?
[00:13] <Mirux> I've disabled authentication
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[00:14] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: and you put test.php in /var/www/ and browsed to http://localhost/test.php?
[00:14] <RHorse> Flannel tnx fer the info, man.
[00:14] <ichat> owned - youll be able to do it - but it WIL recure some efford as windows WILL make life hard to you until youve been able to remove the raid i/o driver
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[00:14] <jake_> [19:06] <jake>  amanda-b: it's quite easy, but I can't talk you through it as I'm chatting on my phone. googling ubuntu initramfs modules will probably help :)
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[00:14] <unop> !ops
[00:14] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, yep done that
[00:14] <younder> Mirux: You can't disable authentifification.
[00:14] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: sorry if I'm being patronising, just want to check everything
[00:15] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, np:)
[00:15] <zanberdo> unop, thank you! that was getting down right annoying.
[00:15] <unop> i was wondering if i was the only person seeing that..
[00:15] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, I've got it working
[00:15] <AmnesiaUK> apparantly it doesn't take spaces
[00:15] <esde> i followed the tut http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop and my terminal has a window border and top bar still. can someone help me remove it??
[00:15] <AmnesiaUK> since another file was called special symbols.php
[00:15] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: :) what was it?
[00:16] <AmnesiaUK> funkyHat, is it impossible to have spaces in the filenames?
[00:16] <hou5ton> Synaptic says that ImageMagick is installed, but I can't find it anywhere???
[00:16] <younder> nop just use \<space>
[00:16] <DarkRavin> ok i need help i installed the supybot and now i cant find it can someone help
[00:16] <Mirux> younder, thanks but i'll find another way to acomplish what I want.
[00:16] <DisabledDuck> how do i change my systems sound settings to go through HDMI?
[00:16] <Mirux> Maybe a dirsync
[00:16] <reya276> is there a firefox help channel?
[00:16] <lstarnes> hou5ton: it's several separate executables.  display is one of them
[00:17] <ciccio85> qualcuno scrive ITALIANO???
[00:17] <funkyHat> AmnesiaUK: you can, not usually sensible though, and you have to escape them properly
[00:17] <AmnesiaUK> using \?
[00:17] <RHorse> hou5ton import is another
[00:17] <mrwes> !it
[00:17] <mrwes> prego
[00:17] <reya276> I'm running ubuntu 9.04 and my firefox is acting up, like the darn thing is opening poups in new tabs rather than as popups
[00:17] <ciccio85> GRAZIE A TE
[00:17] <mrwes> :)
[00:17] <younder> !no
[00:17] <hou5ton> lstarnes:   RHorse :   ok thanks, I'll poke around and find that components
[00:17] <funkyHat> reya276: #firefox on irc.mozilla.org
[00:18] <younder> Thought so
[00:18] <funkyHat> reya276: but if it's on ubuntu, then here
[00:18] <esde> i followed the tut http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal+desktop and my terminal has a window border and top bar still. can someone help me remove it??
[00:18] <reya276> oh man my notifications are not working either
[00:18] <liox_> hello
[00:18] <Vixen_> Hi there.
[00:18] <reya276> how can I get those back, I must've remove something
[00:18] <RHorse> hou5ton try man imagemagick
[00:18] <Intelli> The twin package is buggy.
[00:18] <reya276> funkyHat: its on Ubuntu
[00:18] <Intelli> It doens't work right.
[00:19] <Intelli> For Hardy Heron.
[00:19] <reya276> funkyHat:  also my notifications are no longer showing up either
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  youmean the 'twin' terminal emulator?
[00:19] <Intelli> Yeah.
[00:19] <funkyHat> reya276: there is a setting about how popups should be loaded, sure you haven't set it?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  its been 'goofy' for ages..
[00:19] <Intelli> How do I fix it?
[00:19] <liox_> 3d acceleration and turning in ubuntu ati Xpress 200 in 9.04?
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  ive not tried it in ages..last time i recompiled from soure to get it working how I wanted.
[00:20] <mzz> reya276: see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.link.open_newwindow.restriction (I don't think there's ui for that one)
[00:20] <Intelli> I tried that, it wouldn't make.
[00:20] <omnydevi> Greetings! Anyone have a link i can use perhaps for having windows installed on sda and ubuntu on sdb, with grub on sdb? it is completely overlooked by windows bootloader, i need it to see KDE on sdb, thanks!
[00:20] <younder> it will now
[00:20] <mrwes> Intelli, it configured, but wouldn't make?
[00:20] <hou5ton> RHorse:   I have done that ... and of course it tells me all about the application .... but I don't know why all the components are not installed.
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  for X now a  days i tend to use 'terminator' for   a similer type effect.
[00:20] <Intelli> Yeah, it configured, but wouldn't make.
[00:21] <funkyHat> omnydevi: you need to install grub on the drive that is booted from
[00:21] <younder> Intelli: fuck!
[00:21] <reya276> funkyHat: no I have not seen that
[00:21] <omnydevi> funkyHat: can i reinstall kde and just make like a 10gb partition on sda and put grub on that?
[00:21] <funkyHat> omnydevi: it's fine installing it on sda even though windows is on there
[00:22] <reya276> funkyHat: I think my major concern is the notifications
[00:22] <omnydevi> funkyHat: what i was looking for mate, thank you!
[00:22] <funkyHat> omnydevi: grub, that is, no need to move ubuntu
[00:22] <omnydevi> funkyHat: hrm, there is just a grub installer?
[00:23] <funkyHat> !grub | omnydevi
[00:23] <Intelli> The configure thing doesn't seem to like the fact that it can't use gtk.h though.
[00:23] <reya276>  funkyHat: they are not available anymore
[00:23] <omnydevi> funkyHat: thanks mate :D
[00:23] <funkyHat> oh what is that other factoid?
[00:23] <omnydevi> doh
[00:23] <mzz> Intelli: what are you trying to install again?
[00:23] <Intelli> twin.
[00:23] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  i perfered tojust use it on the console. so i dident even want the X gui features
[00:23] <funkyHat> !fixboot
[00:24] <RHorse> hou5ton that *is* weird. They should be in your path
[00:24] <LiquidAir> When I run apt-get install links, I get a bunch of 404 errors; is there any way to change the mirrors being used?
[00:24] <Intelli> It doesn't make though. I think it can't find various libraries.
[00:24] <Intelli> Like libTutf.
[00:24] <omnydevi> funkyHat: i got it mate, thanks :D
[00:25] <omnydevi> cheers all!
[00:25] <funkyHat> reya276: which notifications in particular? the new fancy black ones?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  theres some command to auto install all the source-dev depends for a program.. but i forget the command.
[00:25] <reya276>  funkyHat: nevermind they are still there
[00:25] <usser> Intelli, sudo apt-get build-dep packae
[00:25] <funkyHat> reya276: :)
[00:25] <Intelli> I downloaded the twin-dev package.
[00:25] <the1corrupted> Hello everyone, I was wondering how I could get Ubuntu to read my S-Video output on my laptop?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> Intelli:  like usser  said. :) that should get ALL teh needed -dev packages for it.. it makes it easier to recompile since the thing is in the repos in the first place
[00:26] <mzz> Intelli: looks like the gtk usage there is gtk 1, which may not be desirable
[00:26] <Dante123> okay, I am seriously frustrated. First I installed 9.04 64 bit (with separate home folder on its own partition)....random freezing and a certain app I need for work would not work.  Then I reinstalled 32 bit 9.04....app now worked...but random freezing continued.  Also, sound was really weird....if you turn down the volume slider on panel, it actually turns down the front mic slider on volume and in alsamixer.  Then I went back to 8.
[00:26] <ichat> btw - gotta go its  1.30 am - needs sleep
[00:26] <ichat> gnight
[00:26] <funkyHat> the1corrupted: that doesn't make sense
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> the1corrupted:  svideo OUTPUT is 'output' you plug into a tv..  You wish to have  ubuntu show a picture on the tv?
[00:26] <owned> after looking around it seems you can just get rid of RAID 1 and keep your data.  Should I just unplug the power to one of my HDs?  Or is there a better way to do it?
[00:26] <pwnguin> what's the package name for the old gnome layout?
[00:27] <funkyHat> pwnguin: gnome-straticella
[00:27] <the1corrupted> Dr_Willis I already have the picture.  (use of TV as monitor), I was just wondering how I could config the best resolutrion...
[00:27] <pwnguin> funkyHat: thans
[00:27] <pwnguin> thanks
[00:27] <funkyHat> pwnguin: or something like that
[00:27] <[k]laxon> Hey guys, problem. When i go to install Xubuntu from disk, it comes up with the funky boot menu where you have options, but NOTHING works! I can choose the language, but after that, i can move up and down the list, but not select anything. I don't know what to do.
[00:27] <pwnguin> /p/part
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> the1corrupted:  for my nvidia cards i use the nvidia-settings tool
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> the1corrupted:  svideo is not going to be super-great any way. :)  you have to toy with the settings/res/modes to see what the tv canhandle
[00:28] <dyess002> DOES ANYBODY KNO HOW TO FORCE A  PROGRAM TO QUIT
[00:28] <reya276> funkyHat: thanks
[00:28] <reya276> mzz: thanks
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. idont even see 'twin' in the repos any more
[00:28] <koshari> dyess002 use kill
[00:28] <funkyHat> dyess002: pkill -9 program
[00:28] <the1corrupted> Dr_Willis So how do I toy with them then?  I've tried the presets but they all suck...  I can't go above 1024 x 768
[00:29] <RHorse> hou5ton try apt-cache search imagemagick
[00:29] <funkyHat> dyess002: might work without the -9 too
[00:29] <[k]laxon> Anyone have any idea?
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> the1corrupted:  your tv prberly cant handle any more then that anyway. it has to convert it down to a signal the tv can use.
[00:29] <dyess002> I AM VERY NEW, DO I PUT THIS IN THE TERMINAL
[00:29] <the1corrupted> Dr_Willis Oooh, I see.
[00:29] <hetauma> hi, how can I set up my mouse so back and forward keys would work on nautilus?
[00:29] <lstarnes> dyess002: could you please stop using caps?
[00:29] <funkyHat> dyess002: yep
[00:30] <supernix> I installed mysql but now I can get to it via the terminal
[00:30] <hetauma> also I want to be able to go back on firefox using backspace
[00:30] <dyess002> sorry
[00:30] <mrwes> dyess002, sudo killall programname
[00:30] <supernix> just keeps giving me access denied
[00:30] <dyess002> curious, what is caps doing
[00:31] <mrwes> hetauma, in your browswer address type about:config, and then search for backspace
[00:31] <[k]laxon> dyess002, its like shouting on the internet, not to mention its... aesthetically displeasing.
[00:31] <funkyHat> supernix: are you using the -p switch?
[00:31] <RHorse> dyess002 it's bad form
[00:31] <supernix> yes
[00:31] <hetauma> mrwes, ty
[00:31] <mrwes> hetauma, browser.backspace_action and change the value to 0 (zero)
[00:31] <funkyHat> supernix: and the password you set in debconf when you installed?
[00:31] <hou5ton> RHorse:   It brings up a whole long list of things
[00:31] <dyess002> ok, thanks didn't have a idea
[00:32] <supernix> that is funny I did set a password but honestly funkyHat I can't recall what it was I was trying to answer the phone and do an install all at once
[00:32] <RHorse> hou5ton yes, you'll need to install some more pkg's for the full suite prolly
[00:32] <funkyHat> supernix: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[00:32] <hetauma> mrwes, worked fine thanx
[00:32] <amokk> hello
[00:32] <mrwes> hetauma, of course :) -- your welcome
[00:34] <amokk> ¿does anyone know how to play audio cds without silence between tracks properly in ubuntu?
[00:34] <amokk> thanks
[00:34] <dyess002> wow, it worked
[00:35] <Intelli> Argh, this program worked just fine under Dapper Drake.
[00:35] <Vixen_> amokk, have you tried all the stuff like looking over the program settings for delay between tracks?
[00:35] <ransom> is anyone else having trouble with periodically losing your wireless connection?  i don't know if this is a known issue or if it is a problem with my network.  I'm on an Eee PC 701.
[00:35] <funkyHat> supernix:or  dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-*version* - i forget
[00:35] <amokk> Vixen_ yes
[00:36] <Vixen_> amokk, in that case mate, you'll need to ask someone else, sorry =3
[00:36] <RHorse> ransom try a different encryp protocol?
[00:36] <ransom> RHorse: i'm on an open network
[00:37] <RHorse> ransom strong signal?
[00:37] <SeaPhor> can someone give me the cmd to output the UUID's of all the system partitions? as shown in fstab?
[00:37] <homeskill> i dont have man pages for c functions like malloc(), how do i get them?
[00:37] <amokk> ok don't worry thanks
[00:37] <hetauma> how can I set up my mouse so back and forward keys would work on nautilus?
[00:38] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> is there a site which provides the ubuntu kernel configuration files from version to version
[00:38] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ?
[00:38] <supernix> funkyHat: I have done the dpkg reconfigure via terminal and even did a reinstall via Synaptic either way I get no option to reset the password
[00:38] <thismamacooks200> My, bluetooth adapter works on my laptop but not on my desktop, both jaunty
[00:38] <liox_> someone help me how to turn 3d acceleration on ATI Xpress 200 at 9:04 ubuntu?
[00:38] <owned> anyone have experience with raid?
[00:38] <hetauma> sh4d3sl4y3r_, I think that when u downlad the kernel source from the repositories the config is included
[00:39] <dtchen> sh4d3sl4y3r_: see /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[00:39] <koshari> owned unless your considering real ahrdware raid i say forget it
[00:39] <owned> no I want help with breaking my fake raid :P
[00:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> no incase i download from kernel.org... and load the configurations and make a few modification myself
[00:39] <koshari> software/soho raid is rubbish
[00:39] <funkyHat> supernix: try a purge
[00:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> thats why
[00:39] <dtchen> sh4d3sl4y3r_: if you want browseable source, use kernel.ubuntu.com/git
[00:39] <deco> who here uses ctwm?
[00:39] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> thanks a lot man
[00:39] <lstarnes> hetauma: install manpages-dev
[00:40] <owned> i have raid 1 (fake raid) and I want to know if I can just remove an HD and then have the comp boot like normal
[00:40] <ransom> RHorse: yeah.  my thinking is that i have switched from 3rd party drivers to the built-in ones to 9.04 .  I don't know if others have had the same problem or not.
[00:40] <Cakk> Is it possible to have a new terminal go to a lan network computer?
[00:40] <lstarnes> hetauma: oops, wrong person
[00:40] <dtchen> sh4d3sl4y3r_: then look in ubuntu-release.git/debian/config/
[00:40] <Cakk> i tried
[00:40] <lstarnes> homeskill: install manpages-dev
[00:40] <hetauma> lstarnes, I though sto  :D
[00:40] <Cakk> cd smb://***.***.*.*
[00:40] <blind> For some reason I have no sound. My speakers are functional, I've tried rebooting and I've tried reloading alsa.
[00:40] <Cakk> no sucess
[00:40] <dtchen> blind: wget -O ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[00:41] <dtchen> blind: then, please tell me the generated url
[00:41] <lstarnes> Cakk: you will have to mount the remote smb share somewhere
[00:41] <lstarnes> Cakk: for that, you need smbmount
[00:41] <Cakk> how do i do that
[00:41] <supernix> hmmm funkyHat how do I do a purge ?
[00:41] <blind> is that 0 or an O?
[00:42] <lstarnes> blind: the letter
[00:42] <RHorse> ransom if ur using a gui, U could try cli commands
[00:42] <blind>  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4ce2fdb401a43e3aa2cfa72e82164d0b41c72377
[00:42] <Cakk> lstarnes how doi use smbmount ?
[00:42] <funkyHat> supernix: sudo aptitude purge mysql-server mysql-server-*version*
[00:42] <FireHopper> anyone have a bit of help for a linux newb?
[00:42] <funkyHat> !ask | FireHopper
[00:43] <dtchen> blind: which card do you want to use - the onboard or the usb one?
[00:43] <hetauma> !mouse
[00:43] <lstarnes> Cakk: check its manual page (man smbmount)
[00:43] <blind> dtchen: I don't have a USB one O_o
[00:43] <Cakk> ight
[00:43] <fat_rat> '/quit
[00:44] <supernix> So after the purge is done just do another install?
[00:44] <supernix> So after the purge is done just do another install? funkyHat
[00:44] <owned> anyone have any experience with raid 1 arrays?  Can you just break the array and have a single HD that you can boot from?
[00:44] <deco> i guess nobody uses ctwm :-(
[00:44] <dtchen> blind: sure you do. see the "!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
[00:44] <robdig> SeaPhor: maybe vol_id does what you want
[00:44] <FireHopper> I am running ubuntu 8.10, and tried to upgrade using the software in the installation, but it fails.. says something about running dpkg and when I do that it says theres some kind of error..
[00:45] <funkyHat> supernix: after the purge check that /var/lib/mysql is empty
[00:45] <blind> dtchen: I have a bluetooth dongle and a wireless keyboard/mouse in my USB, nothing else. Is it trying to use the usb? how do i make it use the onboard?
[00:45] <jamie> dir
[00:45] <funkyHat> supernix: then reinstall
[00:45] <dtchen> blind: the onboard is the default one. let me check your mixer settings again.
[00:45] <rjbank> s
[00:45] <supernix> ok thank you for the information funkyHat
[00:45] <maynards-girl> what do i install so i can play and rip mp3's?
[00:46] <funkyHat> supernix: there are ways of resetting the password without reinstalling, but as you've not used it yet this is easier
[00:46] <dtchen> blind: PCM, Surround, Center, LFE are all muted and set to zero. you might want to fix that.
[00:46] <blind> dtchen: in alsamixer, it just shows me card "PulseAudio"
[00:47] <blind> What is that? I have nothing by the name pulseaudio.
[00:47] <hacktolive> maynards-girl: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:47] <nztal> when i make room for ubuntu on a laptop, i have to make space at the beginning of a drive because a recovery partition is at the end of of drive (laptop), anyway, when i adjust the size of the partition, if i try and boot into a non-ubuntu partition, windows seems to notice that the size of the partition is not standard, it activates a recovery mode, which renders that vista installation useless, anyone have any ideas on how to get ubuntu, and
[00:47] <nztal>  my windows to exist together peacefully?
[00:47] <supernix> hmmm var/lib/mysql is not empty so what do I do? funkyHat
[00:47] <dtchen> blind: use "alsamixer -Dhw:0"
[00:47] <funkyHat> supernix: empty it
[00:47] <funkyHat> supernix: actually delete it entirely
[00:47] <hacktolive> maynards-girl: that will install the mp3 codecs
[00:47] <blind> dtchen: thank you
[00:47] <supernix> just rm -f *.*
[00:48] <supernix> funkyHat:
[00:48] <funkyHat> supernix: no
[00:48] <maynards-girl> thanks hacktolive. i'll try that right now
[00:48] <BigMoopies> how do I get the nVidia driver in Jaunty?
[00:48] <funkyHat> supernix: rm -r /var/lib/mysql
[00:48] <BigMoopies> !nvidia
[00:48] <funkyHat> supernix: rm commands with *s in them aren't sensible
[00:48] <BigMoopies> so I want nvidia-glx-177 ?
[00:48] <SeaPhor> robdig, says error opening volume
[00:49] <robdig> SeaPhor: use sudo
[00:49] <stew> supernix: you are trying to remove all the mysql databases as well? or just the mysql configuration?
[00:49] <SeaPhor> $ sudo vol_id --uuid sda3
[00:49] <funkyHat> st
[00:49] <robdig> SeaPhor: full path to dev, so /dev/sda3
[00:50] <FireHopper> so no one has a idea on how to get mine to upgrade?
[00:50] <supernix> Ok I did it sudo style but they are gone now
[00:50] <SeaPhor> robdig, lol, duhhhh, my bad
[00:50] <funkyHat> stew: there aren't any, just trying to reset mysql root password, and I'm telling him the lazy way
[00:50] <supernix> So now I do the reinstall?
[00:50] <robdig> SeaPhor: :)
[00:50] <funkyHat> supernix: yep
[00:50] <Cakk> agh still dono how to use smbmount
[00:51] <Speckz> Anyone here use Wubi with Windows 7 RC?
[00:51] <Cakk> can anyone help me with smbmount mounting my network computer
[00:51] <supernix> Ok thanks will try again funkyHat and stew
[00:51] <maynards-girl> hacktolive, how do i install the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:51] <stew> there is no reason to remove anything just to change the mysql root password, but i guess its too late now anyway
[00:52] <FireHopper> I am running ubuntu 8.10, and tried to upgrade using the software in the installation, but it fails.. says something about running dpkg and when I do that it says theres some kind of error..
[00:52] <Cakk> anyone kno about smbmount?
[00:52] <dino__> hey peeps
[00:52] <lstarnes> Cakk: smbmount smb://***.***.*** directori
[00:52] <lstarnes> *directory
[00:53] <Gaming4JC> hey guys I am on 9.04 and I'm having some trouble getting a Lexmark  3100 printer to work.
[00:53] <dino__> imma noob on linux and just reading up on it
[00:53] <funkyHat> stew: yeah, I guess it's only lazy in the sense that I can explain it without having to look anything up... oops
[00:53] <Cakk> ok where do i add the pw
[00:53] <lstarnes> Cakk: the directory in that command should be empty
[00:53] <Gaming4JC> I tried using a generic driver and it didn't work.
[00:53] <dino__> where do u get the command line at ?
[00:53] <Gaming4JC> Also I tried using 3200 driver. It works by simply pushing a paper through, but no color or printing is actually done... :P
[00:53] <lstarnes> dino__: applications > accessories > terminal
[00:54] <supernix> Thank you so much funkyHat and stew
[00:54] <lstarnes> Cakk: wait, I think I'm wrong
[00:54] <maynards-girl> how do i install the ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:54] <dino__> ty
[00:54] <supernix> I just did a test and it works now
[00:54] <funkyHat> supernix: :)
[00:54] <mrwes> lstarnes, I believe Ubuntu is moving towards cifs mounts for samba shares
[00:54] <supernix> I could not find a gui to manage the server though any ideas funkyHat?
[00:54] <dino__> damn i thought that was note  pad like on windonts
[00:54] <maynards-girl> nevermind i figured it out
[00:55] <khaije1> hiya folks, is there a picture pastebin?
[00:55] <Gaming4JC> anyone? (printer problems...)
[00:55] <funkyHat> dino__: :). 'text editor' is the one that's most like notepad
[00:55] <Gaming4JC> I am setting it up at a friends house so. xD
[00:55] <dino__> ok so im still learningim on ubuntu running dual with slackware
[00:55] <Gaming4JC> this is making ubuntu look bad :P
[00:55] <dino__> im ditchs morcosoft
[00:56] <Gaming4JC> they just switched from windows where the printer worked,lol.
[00:56] <jman5555> ok I am having some serious resolution problems.
[00:56] <jman5555> can anyone help?
[00:56] <luis> ubuntu has any cd copy software?
[00:56] <dino__> only problem im having is learn that command for the terminal
[00:56] <funkyHat> jman5555: which version of ubuntu, and what graphics card?
[00:57] <jman5555> 8.10 and Nvidia tnt2
[00:57] <dino__> 9.04 what i have i think
[00:57] <dyess002>   I am trying to maybe swap to Ubuntu slowly, I have it on mine and my daughters and the wireless works fine, I put it on my wife's and it won't show her card. I click on the wireless and it doesn't give the wireless networks availible
[00:57] <funkyHat> luis: yes, brasero, or k3b
[00:58] <dino__> whats a good   messenger client  that can run on yahoo messenger servers ?
[00:58] <RHorse> dyess002 do you know what device the card is: ath0...?
[00:58] <dyess002> i have a submission file for that computer
[00:58] <thismamacooks200> dyess002:in the past a slow switch to ubuntu had advantages, but now its better to quit cold turky
[00:58] <Gaming4JC> dyess002: try searching the make and model of the wifi card on google next to the keyword ubuntu. That's how I got a linksys to work.
[00:58] <jman5555> NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64 Graphics card
[00:58] <jman5555> thats all I know
[00:59] <dyess002> thanks i'll try that
[00:59] <Gaming4JC> Anyone on meh Lexmark 3100 printer?
[00:59] <funkyHat> supernix: there are a few. phpmyadmin is one, or mysql-admin
[00:59] <saruji> request for general direction on how to setup a linux box for running two things 1) file server 2)  ssh proxy
[01:00] <d3c3pt10n> hey
[01:00] <lstarnes> Cakk: try smbmount //<ip>/<sharename> directory user=<name>
[01:00] <tye> Dino__ i think pidgin is a decent multi-char client.
[01:00] <pop4> hi
[01:00] <lstarnes> Cakk: without the <'s and >'s
[01:00] <pop4> ineed  wemn
[01:00] <funkyHat> supernix: phpmyadmin is wab-based, mysql-admin is a regular program
[01:00] <d3c3pt10n> i have issues after dist upgrade from 8.10
[01:00] <supernix> funkyHat: that notification went off and scared me to death
[01:00] <funkyHat> supernix: hehe
[01:00] <pop4> hi
[01:00] <funkyHat> *web based
[01:01] <pop4> hlooooooooooooooo
[01:01] <dyess002> which one is my card                 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4318] (rev 02) 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device [103c:1355] 	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx- 	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx- 	Latency: 64 	Interrupt: pin A ro
[01:01]  * Gaming4JC is googling...
[01:01] <thismamacooks200> 50 new people enter. My, bluetooth adapter works on my laptop but not on my desktop, both jaunty
[01:01] <salamandra> join #ubuntu-es
[01:01] <dino__> tye  i get a server connection error on it lately
[01:01] <dino__> im not sure what the deal is
[01:01] <meoblast001> hi
[01:02] <dino__> hello
[01:02] <meoblast001> i'm having some trouble with evolution
[01:02] <d3c3pt10n> can we pm for help in here
[01:02] <meoblast001> when i hit the new button, it locks up, and if i click an email link in firefox, nothing comes up
[01:02] <supernix> Do they install the Innodb version of MySQL ?
[01:03] <dyess002> which  one  AirForce One 54g or Broadcom Corporation BCM4318
[01:03] <funkyHat> d3c3pt10n: it's best not to,you're unlikely to pick the right person for your question
[01:03] <datta> i have a swf file in my computer
[01:03] <datta> i want to play it but it plays with vlc and vlc can't play it
[01:03] <datta> what should i do?
[01:04] <dino__> shit i need a teacher  anyone care to help ?
[01:04] <d3c3pt10n> funkyHat, i done dist update to 9.04 from 8.10 and it said it was blocking some sources, now i cant get them back i've checked sources.list and there not commented out in there
[01:04] <jman5555> can anyone help me one on one with a resolution problem?
[01:04] <d3c3pt10n> i need to add some new ones and they wont add either
[01:04] <datta> also does anyone know how to insert a swf movie in openoffice
[01:05] <d3c3pt10n> trying to install gtk+2
[01:05] <datta> i cant insert it, im trying
[01:05] <lstarnes> d3c3pt10n: the libraries for it should be installed automatically
[01:05] <lstarnes> d3c3pt10n: for the development files, install libgtk2.0-dev
[01:05] <rjbank> clear
[01:05] <milo2361> does anyone know of a sound driver for an Intel 82801H (ICH8) sound card compatible with ubuntu?
[01:05] <d3c3pt10n> i need my sources fixin
[01:06]  * Gaming4JC awaits lexmark printer support... :P
[01:06] <funkyHat> d3c3pt10n: check any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[01:06] <jman5555> could anyone please help me with a resolution problem?
[01:06] <d3c3pt10n> i'd quite good at messing about, i've removed gnome with openbox and i'm using sickboy kernel on a aspire one
[01:07] <d3c3pt10n> but this has me stumped
[01:07] <chaorain> I am having problems with windows ans I think that Ubuntu might be causing them. How can I get Ubuntu to Ignore sda and sdb completely? i.e. Ubuntu won't even look at them?
[01:08] <funkyHat> jman5555: best to give details - "can anyone help me with my resolution problem, I have a nvidia tnt3 on ubuntu 9.04"
[01:08] <amanda-b> note to self: boinc chews the holy living hell out of an already-under-powered system (mac mini).
[01:09] <amanda-b> is there a command line utility that will give me just a raw file/directory count? i'm using rsync to shuffle files around, which is great, except the count doesn't work right.
[01:09] <funkyHat> amanda-b: du might help
[01:10] <jman5555> can anyone help me with a resolution problem. I have a Nvidia tnt2 graphics card and I can only get an 800 by 600 resolution. Im running Ubuntu 8.10
[01:10] <milo2361> Hello.  I need some help with sound - i google/ubuntu forum searched for ways to fix sound, and i am stumped.  i am also an ubuntu noob so this might just be my problem.  I am running a Gateway p-173X FX edition with an intel 82801H(ICH8 family) sound card and cannot make it cmpatible - yes i made sure the volume controls are all up
[01:10] <Gaming4JC> zzzz...
[01:10] <_CommandeR_> Hi, i need a good music player somewhat compared to new Winamp. anyone ?
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> amanda-b:  perhaps ls | wc -w    :)
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  audacious is ok.
[01:11] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis, is there an equalizer there ?
[01:11] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis, and for gnome ofc :)
[01:11] <funkyHat> milo2361: did you go to preferences and enable the controls for everything?
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  no idea. not a big feature i need.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  try it and see
[01:11] <guptach|ee> quick question, how do i make it so that when ever i close my laptop screen, it only turns my screen off. It does not disconnect from my network?
[01:11] <milo2361> funkyHat: yes. i also forgot to mention its ubuntu 9.04  and i dont really want to have to go back to vista
[01:13] <funkyHat> milo2361: did you make sure they are all unmuted? and have you played with the options and switches?
[01:13] <robert__1> I need help idk what happened
[01:13] <metal> I can't get permission to chown on my system
[01:14] <metal> I can't run wine becasue it says "not owned by you"
[01:14] <milo2361> funkyHat:  nothing is muted but i still dont get sound.  from searching i found things to add on to some of the alsa code lines but all of my alsa files are locked.
[01:14] <Flynsarmy> Does jaunty not switch system settings to use the msttcorefonts the way older distros did when you install it?
[01:14] <unop> metal, use sudo
[01:14] <metal> Did
[01:14] <metal> robert@RaptorJesus:~$ sudo chown -R robert:robert /home/robert/
[01:14] <metal> [sudo] password for robert:
[01:14] <metal> chown: cannot access `/home/robert/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:15] <chaorain> I am having problems with windows ans I think that Ubuntu might be causing them. How can I get Ubuntu to Ignore sda and sdb completely? i.e. Ubuntu won't even look at them?
[01:15] <funkyHat> metal: what error message so you get? (just 1 line please)
[01:15] <funkyHat> oh my bad for being slow
[01:15] <metal> chown: cannot access `/home/robert/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:16] <guptach|ee> metal, use sudo
[01:16] <djyoung4> :)
[01:16] <metal> I did, guptach|ee
[01:16] <eseven73> that's one file that cant be changed, I think it's the gnome virtual file system
[01:16] <metal> When i try to chown to ~/
[01:17] <unop> metal,  .gvfs is special, you can't adjust it .. try something like this.   find ~/ ! -iname ".gvfs" -type d -exec sudo chown -R robert.robert {} +
[01:17] <metal> it doesn't work because permission denied
[01:17] <zaccour>  where can i find the ubuntu iso for the style Dell tweaked? I have Ubuntu installed, just wanna try it out though to see what its like
[01:17] <unop> metal, or better.  find ~/ ! -user "$USER" -a -type d -exec sudo chown -R robert.robert {} +
[01:17] <eseven73> better off leaving that file alone
[01:18] <metal> unop: what does that do
[01:18] <zaccour> is there an iso for the Ubuntu that Dell came up with? just wanna try it out
[01:18] <unop> metal, change the permissions of all directories within ~/ that you _don't_ own
[01:18] <salamandra> hi every body! i've got a problem with alsa, when i connect an earphones the speakers still sounds. any one know how to repair this??
[01:18] <unop> metal, s/permissions/ownership/
[01:19] <metal> find: `/home/robert/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:19] <RHorse> salamandra this is common with 9.04. google it
[01:19] <salamandra> but im in ibex
[01:19] <zaccour> salamandra, did you try right click on the speaker icon and see if headphones is checked?
[01:19] <salamandra> yes i did it
[01:19] <wasutton3> i have successfully set up a fakeraid array using the instructions online. whenever i try to mount it using either ext2IFS or ext2fsd in windows 7 it breaks the array according to the motherboard
[01:19] <metal> unop: find: `/home/robert/.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:19] <wasutton3> it doesnt mount it either
[01:19] <zaccour> is there an iso for the Ubuntu that Dell came up with? just wanna try it out
[01:20] <chaorain> salamandra, On some computers it has to do with the hardware
[01:20] <unop> metal, which command did you try? first or second?
[01:20] <chaorain> metal, what are you trying to do?
[01:20] <metal> second
[01:20] <zaccour> is there an iso for the Ubuntu that Dell came up with? just wanna try it out
[01:21] <salamandra> but last week this still works
[01:21] <RHorse> salamandra try the mixer settings
[01:21] <Juzman-EeePC> zaccour: Ask once, await reply. If no reply presume no one knows. :-)
[01:21] <salamandra> i have "googled" a lot, also i recompiled alsa
[01:22] <zaccour> 3 times a charm, 4 times is a restraining order
[01:22] <guptach|ee> salamandra, what computer model?
[01:22] <guptach|ee> is it a laptop ?
[01:22] <metal> chaorain: trying to get ownership of wine
[01:22] <salamandra> nop
[01:22] <salamandra> HP....desktop
[01:22] <djyoung4> quit your mom
[01:22] <rjbanker> zaccour: see this: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04#Dell_OS_Factory_Recovery_8.04.1_DVD_ISO  there is a small download link on that page
[01:23] <guptach|ee> salamandra: oh, i had alsa problems
[01:23] <Flynsarmy> Does jaunty not switch system settings to use the msttcorefonts the way older distros did when you install it?
[01:23] <brand0con> wondering what you folks use to backup your home directory to external media?  ive looked up several scripts and tried a program called backintime but nothing is really suiting my simple need.  any suggestions
[01:23] <guptach|ee> salamandra: did you check this file " sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf "
[01:23] <maynards-girl> am i able to stream my music to my airport?
[01:23] <guptach|ee> salamandra: look at the bottom
[01:24] <guptach|ee> there should be some options
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> brand0con:  i just drag my files over.. :)
[01:24] <salamandra> guptach..: and what does i have to confirm?
[01:24] <guptach|ee> options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo # options snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[01:24] <guptach|ee> wait
[01:24] <RHorse> brand0con rsync
[01:24] <guptach|ee> salamandra:  http://mibbit.com/pb/yHhgqf
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> brand0con:  or i use sshfs and copy the stuff over to a remote box every so often with a script
[01:25] <brand0con> Dr_Willis: good but not that good.  i could just as easily use cp for the same use.  I'd like to use something that creates links instead of files
[01:25] <guptach|ee> look at thay
[01:25] <guptach|ee> try adding one of those lines
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> brand0con:  whats the point of backups with links?  somthing is not clear here.
[01:25] <unop> metal,   cd ~/ && find .  -iname ".gvfs"  -prune -o -exec sudo chown -R robert.robert {} +
[01:25] <brand0con> well if you already have a file backed up
[01:25] <guptach|ee> restart and see if that fixes the problem
[01:25] <guptach|ee> if not
[01:25] <brand0con> you dont really need to erase it and back it up agai
[01:25] <meth0d> hey all
[01:26] <guptach|ee> try the other one [but un coment it by removing the #]
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> brand0con:  rsync can do that. actually i think theres other copy tools that can do it also if size different
[01:26] <guptach|ee> it worked for me
[01:26] <metal> unop: sudo: unable to execute /bin/chown: Argument list too long
[01:26] <lolololo> hey fellows
[01:26] <salamandra> ok thanks im doing
[01:26] <guptach|ee> but i have a difrent computer
[01:26] <guptach|ee> might work for you
[01:26] <lolololo> i'm thinking about using a ramdisk to speedup a 60Gb rsync and use it as --temp-dir, would that be of any good? and if yes, what can i do with filesizes > ramdisk size? any thoughts?
[01:26] <koshari> brand0con i second rsync
[01:26] <metal> chown: cannot access `./.gvfs': Permission denied
[01:26] <unop> metal,   cd ~/ && find .  -iname ".gvfs"  -prune -o -exec sudo chown -R robert.robert {} \;
[01:27] <chaorain> will ubuntu do anything to sdb if I don't mount it?
[01:27] <wasutton3> brand0con: rsync is good, i use it as well, but if you are looking for a gui you can try this http://lifehacker.com/software/featured-linux-download/timevault-time-machine-for-linux-275399.php
[01:27] <mzz> unop: err, that recurses twice :P
[01:27] <brand0con> thanks ill go read some man pages
[01:27] <unop> chaorain, not really
[01:27] <mzz> unop: I think you want to drop the -R on that chown
[01:27] <koshari> lolololo who has 60g of ram to spare?
[01:27] <unop> mzz, errm, yep, good catch
[01:27] <lolololo> koshari: i'm not transferring on 60G file, total transfer is 60G, the files are smaller
[01:27] <ienorand> zaccour: http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_8.04#Dell_OS_Factory_Recovery_8.04.1_DVD_ISO
[01:28] <koshari> chaorain generally no, yu could still delete the partition if you wanted to however
[01:28] <chaorain> unop, not really? I think Ubuntu is toying with XP and breaking it. would not mounting sdb prvet this?
[01:28] <brand0con> wasutton3: thanks.  I didn't really care for the backintime gui all that much but I'll give time machine a whirl I suppose
[01:28]  * ienorand drat--
[01:28] <koshari> lolololo i doubt a ramdic will mke it any faster then
[01:28] <salamandra> err..guptach, i have a blank file. is it normal?
[01:28] <unop> metal,   cd ~/ && find .  -iname "*gvfs"  -prune -o ! -user "$USER" -exec sudo chown robert.robert {} \;
[01:28] <mzz> chaorain: err, why do you think ubuntu has anything to do with them? It will read those partitions but it won't write to them (iirc it won't even mount them by default)
[01:28] <koshari> lolololo likely slower as you will need to move it twice
[01:29] <wasutton3> brand0con: good luck, but good to see you are backing up
[01:29] <the1corrupted> Hey, everyone.  I was hoping to get help with my ALPS Touchpad.  Right now, it's disabled, but I want to enable it and so far, nothing has worked.
[01:29] <metal> unop: your last command never went through yet
[01:29] <chaorain> thanks, mzz, unop, koshari
[01:29] <unop> metal, ok, let it finish if its still running and you should be set
[01:29] <lolololo> koshari: i was thinking maybe it will, i mean: rsync must create every file it transfers in the destination dir, even if the file exists, and then rename it. Maybe if the file creation and writing is done on a ramdisk it will be faster...(just wondering tho)
[01:30] <owned> if i remove the power to one of the HDs in a fake raid 1 array can I boot the computer using a single HD without losing the data
[01:30] <koshari> lolololo it doesnt have to create files that exist, run it with --progress and you will see what happens
[01:31] <koshari> lolololo the real value with rsync is when you do repetitive backups and can use switches that only update new timestamped files ect,
[01:32] <chaorain> Is there a way to compare (quickly) the contents of two directories. i.e. find all differences?
[01:32] <bigjay> diff it ;-)
[01:32] <lolololo> koshari: but if i'm mirroring two computers, it will have to create files that exist, that is in case they are modified at the source
[01:32] <Flynsarmy> Does jaunty not switch system settings to use the msttcorefonts the way older distros did when you install it?
[01:32] <[[thufir]]> I'm on ubuntu 8.10 I used to have svn, but now cannot seem to install from apt-get :  http://pastebin.com/m631e8da8
[01:33] <bigjay> rsync it :-)
[01:33] <lolololo> it will have to transfer the new version of the file (i'm using --whole-file, and i need to use that) and then overwrite the existing one
[01:33] <koshari> lolololo if your looking at mirroring 2 computors partimage may be a better tool
[01:34] <[[thufir]]> bigjay: rsync?  was that for me?
[01:34] <unop> [[thufir]], you want subversion .. it provides svn
[01:34] <rjbanker> anyone running 9.04 on a dell 1545? how is i working for you?
[01:34] <owned> anyone know about remove an HD in a fake raid 1 array?  Can I jst use a single HD w/o raid and keep the data that was on it?
[01:34] <[[thufir]]> unop: subversion fails to install from apt  http://pastebin.com/m631e8da8
[01:34] <careta> how do I change the hostname in my ubuntu pc?
[01:35] <unop> !hostname > careta
[01:35] <koshari> [[thufir]] no rsync wont solve your issues, nearly all others though ;-0
[01:35] <unop> [[thufir]],  dpkg -l | grep -i subversion   #??
[01:36] <lolololo> koshari: will check it, thx anyway
[01:36] <careta> thanks unop
[01:36] <unop> [[thufir]], hmm ..
[01:36] <unop> !info subversion
[01:37] <[[thufir]]> unop:  it used to be installed, I wonder if it's a multiverse thing.
[01:37] <unop> [[thufir]],  make sure you have the main repository enabled
[01:37] <[[thufir]]> unop: http://pastebin.com/m788338cf
[01:37] <_CommandeR_> hi, anyone know how to install songbird ?
[01:37] <midkniht> http://irclnx.com/video/most_viewed
[01:38] <thecras>  /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version /ctcp version
[01:38] <unop> [[thufir]], yea, it looks like you had it installed at one point .. but aptitude can't find it anymore, make sure you have the repository enabled then update aptitude
[01:38] <unop> thecras, why ?
[01:40] <careta> how do I install the nvidia driver? i tried installing nvidia-glx-180 through synaptic but it doesnt work
[01:40] <linux_noob> basic apache http/https question... I have Trac (SVN web interface) installed on my box and it is accessible from http:/localhost/trac... now I would like to use SSL (i have it all setup, working, and tested!)  Will moving the <directory /trac> entry from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ssl-default accomplish my goal??
[01:41] <thecras> hi unop
[01:41] <unop> linux_noob, should do, yep
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  just go to the songbird homepage and download the latest?
[01:42] <rafik> hi Rohff139
[01:42] <[[thufir]]> unop: I'm not quite sure what's wrong with the repos file:  http://pastebin.com/m50177064  but I'm still researching it
[01:42] <thecras> unop where your from???
[01:42] <eseven73> !ot | thecras
[01:42] <unop> !ot | thecras,
[01:42] <linux_noob> unop, thanks
[01:42] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis, they dont have a .deb pakage only an folder that you start it from, but nwm i downloaded a installer from get-deb
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  the tar.gz can work for a single user if you want.
[01:43] <enovativ> can anyone tell me exactly what is subversion 1.6
[01:43] <enovativ> ?
[01:43] <unop> [[thufir]],   apt-cache policy subversion
[01:43] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial whats the way to repair this error ??
[01:43] <thecras> unop where are your from
[01:43] <thecras> ???
[01:43] <the1corrupted> Hey, everyone.  I was hoping to get help with my ALPS Touchpad.  Right now, it's disabled, but I want to enable it and so far, nothing has worked.
[01:43] <lstarnes> enovativ: it is version 1.6 of the subversion version control system
[01:43] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis, thanx anyway, Tried audios* but its to tiny for my display (1680*1050) could hardly see anything :P
[01:43] <r3c0n> its a huawei E170 mobile broadband modem
[01:43] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial whats the way to repair this error ??
[01:43] <vertix> oh, finally quiet here more or less
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  the tar.gz from songbird homepage works here for me.
[01:44] <unop> thecras, stop .. this isn't a chat channel. if you have an ubuntu question, ask.
[01:44] <Flynsarmy> Does jaunty not switch system settings to use the msttcorefonts the way older distros did when you install it?
[01:44] <enovativ> istarnes : but what exactly is the version control system
[01:44] <[[thufir]]> subversion is listed, but has a "500" for the policy:  http://pastebin.com/m5434fd26
[01:44] <th0r> the1corrupted, have you tried tpconfig?
[01:44] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis,  but how do you install it ?, i only got an folder "songbird" with all the contents.
[01:45] <owned> if I have 2 HDs in a fake raid 1 array, can I just remove the power from one and use a single HD w/o raid and w/o losing any data
[01:45] <Steveys> hello - i am connecting via openvpn and got the following error when connecting "WARN: could not open database for 4096 bits. Skipped" any ideas what this means? thanks
[01:45] <enovativ> i read that if changes are made in code the SVC is used
[01:45] <the1corrupted> th0r I don't know how to configure it...
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  cd to the dir.. run the program
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  no need to 'install'
[01:45] <unop> [[thufir]], i take it you have run.    aptitude update   #?
[01:45] <_CommandeR_> but how do you add it later to the app / sound...
[01:45] <linux_noob> i just noticed that my default-ssl file has <directory> tags rather than <location> tags... can I still declare a site in my default-ssl file?
[01:45] <vertix> I've been struggling with trying to get Ubuntu 8.10 booting for a week now. anybody knows much about grub boot sequence at the point where root parition is being mounted?
[01:45] <unop> linux_noob, yes
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  put it somewhere  like /home/username/songbird and use the menu editor tool
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  or make an icon on the desktop
[01:46] <linux_noob> unop, would i use a location tag or a directory tag in that case?
[01:46] <Intelli> How do I make raggle read RSS feeds inside the program, and not open them in a browser?
[01:46] <unop> linux_noob, there is a difference between the two .. if you are referring to a location on disk then <directory> ..
[01:46] <_CommandeR_> Dr_Willis, Is make a link (icon/shortcut ?)
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> vertix: grup config to a pastebin pls
[01:46] <[[thufir]]> unop: yes, I ran aptitude update, will do that again.   I forget, something about clearing the cache, too?
[01:46] <KB1JWQ> grub, even.
[01:47] <vertix> KB1JWQ, just a sec
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> _CommandeR_:  try it and see..
[01:47] <unop> [[thufir]], you shouldn't need to but   aptitude autoclean
[01:47] <koshari> careta how do you mean it doesnt work?
[01:47] <dedinje> does anyone have any ideas on why internet browsing is veryyyyy slooow on Ubuntu x86_64 (its not just firefox!)
[01:47] <koshari> !doesntwork
[01:48] <vertix> KB1JWQ, here it is: http://pastebin.com/m69143616
[01:48] <profchaos> monodevelop wouldn't start on my machine. any suggestions what could be the cause?
[01:48] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial any ideas  ??  details : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5f2336a9
[01:48] <[[thufir]]> unop: that seems to have done the trick, it's installing (hopefully) niow
[01:48] <vertix> KB1JWQ, i have IDE and SCSI drives and a separate /boot partitions, and drives switch as seen from grub compare to live CD
[01:50] <careta> koshari, i didn't do nvidia-xconfig command. now it asks me to restart xserver but ctrl + alt + backspace doesn't do anything?
[01:50] <dino__> i get an unknown error number 29   on pidgin
[01:50] <dino__> anyone know about this ?
[01:50] <vertix> KB1JWQ, you only need to look at 1st boot entry
[01:50] <r3c0n> my nvidia is a nightmare as well
[01:50] <[[thufir]]> ok, svn is installed.  netbeans needs to be pointed to binary.  where is the subversion binary, pls?
[01:51] <acfrazier> I can't get the Ubuntu 9.04 LiveCD to boot off USB on my laptop. It drops to busybox after repeated reading of the filesystem, and when I blank the hard drive, it loads the USB driver then drops to busybox. I can't use the CD because my DVD drive is failing, so what can I do?
[01:51] <koshari> careta you can restore cont alt backspace by placing a line in fstab. beats me why it was removed
[01:51] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial any ideas  ??  details : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5f2336a9 a Huawei E170 GSM modem
[01:51] <dino__> Unknown error number 29. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this.
[01:51] <careta> koshari, in /etc/fstab? can you specify this entry please?
[01:51] <dino__> anyone know about this on the pidgin app ?
[01:52] <koshari> careta http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1108971
[01:52] <maco> dino__: check launchpad.net. i think there's a bug about that and it turned out that yahoo's servers moved or something
[01:53] <dino__> checking now maco  thanks
[01:53] <[[thufir]]> point netbeans to /usr/bin/svn for subversion?
[01:54] <[[thufir]]> nm, it found it automagically
[01:54] <dedinje> does anyone have any ideas on why internet browsing is veryyyyy slooow on Ubuntu x86_64 (its not just firefox!)
[01:54] <careta> thanks koshari
[01:54] <vertix> is there a better IRC client than xchat nowadays?
[01:55] <[[thufir]]> vertix: pidgin.im
[01:55] <acfrazier> Guess nobody knows, ah well, it's more than likely a kernel issue
[01:56] <vertix> [[thufir]], thanx, never heard of it. I am off liveCD right now cause i still can't boot ubuntu after spending a week on it after fresh install
[01:56] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial any ideas  ??  details : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5f2336a9 a Huawei E170 GSM modem
[01:57] <vertix> [[thufir]], there is some pigin on ubuntu live cd 8.10, but that is not an irc client from what i recall
[01:57] <quinten> hi, since i upgraded to jaunty, my wine applications all have the graphics replaced by a grey screen
[01:57] <quinten> and on the commandline i see a bunch of errors about an unimplemented gl function
[01:57] <Stupendoussteve> vertix: Pidgin can connect to irc
[01:57] <quinten> is this a known error? any suggestions on what package to look at downgrading, possibly?
[01:58] <vertix> KB1JWQ	, are you there?
[01:58] <quinten> i don't want to switch back to intrepid as i like the other upgrades
[01:58] <dino__> ok no luck on the bug      anyone know how to change the yahoo messenger server in the pidgin app ?
[01:58] <Crash1hd> What is the best program in ubuntu to use that will undelete a deleted file(s)?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Crash1hd:  good luck with Undeleteing  stuff from a ext2/3 filesystem :)
[01:58] <Stupendoussteve> dino__: Yes... modify accounts and hit the advanced tab
[01:58] <Steffy> Crash1hd: just check your wastebasket?
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> !undelete | Crash1hd
[01:58] <dino__> ty
[01:58] <Stupendoussteve> I think, at least
[01:59] <vertix> Stupendoussteve, i tried this pigin thing and it asks for some account and i did not figure out how to set it up. can you tell me? cause i hate this mibbit thing i am using right now
[01:59] <Stupendoussteve> vertix: Hit add in the pidgin accounts window and select irc from the pulldown
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> vertix:  i perfer xchat to pidgin. :) or go hardcore and use irssi.
[01:59] <Crash1hd> Dr_Willis: thanks for the info :) I dont have anything I need to undelete (But I know its inevitable that it will happen lol)
[01:59] <Stupendoussteve> hardcore is telnet :P
[01:59] <carlos> #ubuntu-es
[02:00] <ssmy> how can I install a command-line only system from the jaunty alternate CD? I remember this use dto be an option, but I don't see it now.
[02:00] <Stupendoussteve> vertix: Then just enter a nickname in the username field, you shouldn't need to use a password
[02:00] <tzar04> Could someone help me get gsynaptics working? I've made an fdi file to enable SHMconfig, but it's still complaining that SHMconfig isn't enabled
[02:00] <HorizonXP> hey, i installed VLC, and I'm trying to stream some video, but it's complaining about not having the codec for MPEG-2. but libavcodec is installed. any ideas?
[02:00] <vertix> cause i need to get my ubuntu booted REAL bad. i got infected with the latest and greatest version of rootkit while running Windows, and that is a killer thing. So now i need to back up all sorts of stuff, not time to play with pigins
[02:00] <Cakk> if someone can help me with network drives in linux please private msg me
[02:00] <dino__> Unknown error number 29. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this. is what i get when i try to log in to pidgin  and also wehn i try to make a new account
[02:01] <vertix> Stupendoussteve, well, i entered some nick name but it complained i recall.
[02:01] <Stupendoussteve> vertix: It may have been in use, try the one you're using now with a 1, maybe
[02:02] <GARRETTN> Hello, im back
[02:02] <GARRETTN> anyone have problems
[02:02] <vertix> i am waiting for KB1JWQ to tell me if he can see anything wrong with my grub setup on dual IDE/SCSI boot configuration
[02:02] <dino__> Unknown error number 29. Logging into the Yahoo! website may fix this.  on pidgin  when trying tolog on YIM
[02:02] <Mike_lifeguard> if I want to try out KDE, what would I need to install on ubuntu?
[02:03] <genii> Mike_lifeguard: kubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <vertix> k, lemme try that pigin now. cause this mibbit thing sux full time
[02:03] <zvacet> Mike_lifeguard : sudo apt-get install kubuntu -desktop kde
[02:04] <Mike_lifeguard> And then when booting (or whatever), how would I enter kde instead of gnome?
[02:04] <Stupendoussteve> Mike_lifeguard: If you install kubuntu-desktop, you don't need to install kde separate
[02:04] <Stupendoussteve> Mike_lifeguard: There is a sessions button on the login screen, just choose kde
[02:04] <Mike_lifeguard> I guess that's a metapackage?
[02:04] <Stupendoussteve> Mike_lifeguard: Correct
[02:04] <zvacet> Mike_lifeguard : bottom left on login under options
[02:04] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, right.
[02:04] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, sweet, let's give this a roll... :D
[02:06] <RHorse> Stupendoussteve it's a *huge* install BTW. Make a cup of coffee. ;)
[02:06] <RHorse> sorry, for Mike_lifeguard
[02:06] <Stupendoussteve> :)
[02:07] <Mike_lifeguard> thanks for the warning :P
[02:07] <Mike_lifeguard> BTW, anyone know how people get the mac-ish launch bar thing instead of a "normal" panel?
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> Mike_lifeguard:  with one of the many 'dock' apps out. (i hate them all)
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> !awn
[02:08] <Mike_lifeguard> Dr_Willis: just testing things, promise :P
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> Mike_lifeguard:  i find them more hassle  then they are worth
[02:08] <unkuiri> Hi, I need some help with wine program...
[02:08] <KB1JWQ> Dr_Willis: You just described my perspective on GUIs. :)
[02:09] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial any ideas  ??  details : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5f2336a9 a Huawei E170 GSM modem
[02:09] <Mike_lifeguard> there was some other awesome lauching thingy I saw a while back too... but I forget where, and I can't really describe it well
[02:09] <r3c0n> any advice ?
[02:09] <norrisg1> Anyone need some help?
[02:09] <r3c0n> me
[02:09] <r3c0n>   The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16)........... in wvdial any ideas  ??  details : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5f2336a9 a Huawei E170 GSM modem
[02:09] <norrisg1> ok
[02:09] <Mike_lifeguard> unkuiri: it's normally best to simply pose your question; if someone can help you then they'll do so
[02:10] <unkuiri> thanks...:P
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> KB1JWQ:  also describes my wife... *DOH*  did i say that?
[02:10] <vertix> Stupendoussteve, i am trying to connect to irc.freenode.net with pigin, but it just hangs and times out. any idea what that is?
[02:10] <ray66> Downloaded sun-java6-jre and sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-plugin I cannot get verification that it is installed Getting missing jre from firefox 3.0.10 error
[02:10] <lstarnes> vertix: do you get any error messages?
[02:10] <r3c0n> vertix use mibbit.com instead of pidgin maybe ?
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> ray66:  some reason you dident use the java in the package manager listings?
[02:11] <vertix> error: closing link, connection timed out
[02:11] <RHorse> vertix port no?
[02:11] <r3c0n> 6667 ?
[02:11] <unkuiri> how can I remove a program installed in wine? I've tried the normal things like using thw wine uninstaller but the programs remain there...:(..can somone help me?
[02:11] <ray66> dr willis ... downloaded from synaptic
[02:11] <zvacet> ray66 : g oto the synaptic and reinstall java6-jre and you will get gui for accept licence agreement
[02:11] <norrisg1> unkuiri
[02:11] <lstarnes> vertix: which nick are you using?
[02:11] <vertix> RHorse, i bet you are right. i did not even set port. thought it knows it
[02:11] <r3c0n> :/
[02:12] <RHorse> vertix, it might...
[02:12] <ray66> zvzcet.. got all of that done
[02:12] <RHorse> vertix, should be 6667
[02:12] <vertix> actually, it was already preset to 6667
[02:13] <zvacet> ray66 : wit hno luck or what
[02:13] <aixenv> hey guys hoping someone can help me out here
[02:13] <ray66> zvacet...I have no files listing for jre
[02:14] <RHorse> vertix I wouldn't use it for irc, I'd use irssi or xchat or something. Or even chatzilla
[02:14] <aixenv> 9.04 , works great, using ati drivers - kernel mod 'fglrx' ; trying to get xenserver running so i can boot up an xp virtual machine, so i understand xen installs a new kernel, and this kernel when it boots has hosed up graphics, i did a diff of the xorg.conf and the kernel mod isnt being loaded or the driver, any ideas?
[02:14] <zvacet> ray66 : di you try t oinstall that packages with synaptic or cli
[02:15] <orange-wedge> aixenv have you tried vmplayer?
[02:15] <ray66> zvacet...Download from synaptic
[02:15] <Canaen> ok, so I have a live cd of ubuntu, and I want to format my hard drive and upgrade to ext4. Where do I select this? There doesn't seem to be an option in the partitioning section of the install
[02:15] <aixenv> orange-wedge: no i havent.. apt-cache searching now...
[02:16] <macOut> Is it possible to create a metapackage that removes its dependencies when it is removed?
[02:16] <croddy> hello, is there a way to configure command-not-found so that it is inactive as i type commands at the bash prompt, but so that i can still search its database when i want?
[02:16] <zvacet> ray66 : and you can not accept licence is that reason why you can not see java
[02:16] <vertix> oh, looks like that pigin got connected finally, what a trip!
[02:16] <orange-wedge> aixenv you have to download it from their site
[02:16] <ssmy> macOut: i believe aptitude removes dependencies when you remove meta-packages
[02:16] <coolkourt> ne good ubuntu 9.04 tutorials or sites
[02:16] <^joules^> yikes, this place is pretty busy. anyone know anything about ndiswrapper?
[02:16] <vertix1> yep, this pigin thing seems to be working, but it looks funny
[02:16] <Canaen> !ext4
[02:16] <aixenv> orange-wedge: ok ill do some goodling for it
[02:17] <unkuiri> how can I remove a program installed in wine? I've tried the normal things like using thw wine uninstaller but the programs remain there...:(..can somone help me?
[02:17] <mrwes> Canaen: there should be a small block or square in which you put a check to format that particular partition
[02:17] <orange-wedge> aixenv... i installed v2.5 using the .bundle
[02:17] <ray66> zvacet...I have accepted the licence and progressed through the rest of the download
[02:17] <vertix1> is there a way to log the channel on pigin thing?
[02:17] <vertix1> actually i like fonts on it
[02:17] <macOut> ssmy: But not Synaptic? What about the command line? I know removing "ubuntu" does not remove dependencies. Is that a specially crafted metapackage?
[02:17] <Stupendoussteve> Canaen: I think you can mkfs.ext4 through the cli on there, or use the alternate cd and it does have the option
[02:17] <Canaen> mrwes: I can format a partition or the entire drive (which is my goal), but I can't seem to select ext4 anywhere
[02:18] <orange-wedge> you can create the vmx file you need from easevmx.com
[02:18] <zvacet> ray66 : so in synaptic you see it as installed but you can not use it is that situation correct
[02:18] <Canaen> stupendoussteve: what is mkfs? what is the alternate cd?
[02:18] <vertix1> hey, this pigin thing is not that bad, MUCH better than that mibbit!
[02:18] <Stupendoussteve> Canaen: In fact I would suggest the alternate cd, as doing ti manually is liable to leave broken fstab and such
[02:18] <orange-wedge> *easyvmx.com
[02:18] <^joules^> Canean: i think it's automatic i don't remember setting it for my install
[02:18] <oluu> mkfs make filesystem
[02:18] <lstarnes> vertix1: xchat is even better for itc
[02:18] <lstarnes> *irc
[02:18] <Stupendoussteve> Canaen: mkfs is a command to make a filesystem, the alternate cd is the text mode installation (it still installs the graphical system though)
[02:19] <oluu> ext4 alot faster than ext3?
[02:19] <ray66> zvacet...Synaptic shows it to be installed in both the status report of all and installed but java will not verify and firefox tell me I need to download jre
[02:19] <Stupendoussteve> It performs better
[02:19] <midkniht> yes
[02:19] <RHorse> temp
[02:19] <Canaen> stupendoussteve: so the only difference in using the alternate cd is that it is a text-based cd, and I can select ext4?
[02:19] <mrwes> Canaen, http://www.dougjaworski.com/blog/how-to-install-ubuntu-904-juanty-with-the-ext4-filesystem/
[02:19] <oluu> hm okey
[02:19] <midkniht> but not faster than ext2
[02:19] <vertix1> lstarnes, i know. I used to use xchat all the time when i was more on linux box, but lately i had to do a lot of development work on windows, even though i could do it on linux, but linux ide suck real bad compared to VS
[02:19] <Stupendoussteve> Canaen: Yes. It also has some other "advanced" options available
[02:19] <Canaen> mrwes: thank you
[02:19] <Canaen> stupendoussteve: thanks
[02:20] <mrwes> Canaen, yo uhave to use the manual partition
[02:20] <linux_noob> In my VirtualHost:80 whcich i want to redirect to my VirtualHost:443, what exactly should my ServerName be?
[02:20] <oluu> is it stable ? gonna build a new fileserver soon, should i go with ext4 or stick with ext3?
[02:20] <Stupendoussteve> oluu: It is stable but still evolving, you could say
[02:20] <Stupendoussteve> There aren't a ton of tools for it
[02:21] <the1corrupted> Can someone please help me with my non-working touchpad?
[02:21] <meoblast001> does anyone know how to make a Kodak EasyShare C813 work with Ubuntu?
[02:21] <^joules^> ndiswrapper? anyone? i've been at it for hours and no luck
[02:21] <unkuiri> how can I remove a program installed in wine? I've tried the normal things like using thw wine uninstaller but the programs remain there...:(..can somone help me?
[02:21] <meoblast001> looks like i'll be wasting yet another night
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> unkuiri:  theres some directoryin the users home that has .desktop entries for them.. or use the menu editor (i think)
[02:22] <meoblast001> if i can't figure this out soon, i'll just tell my mom she can get XP because obviously none of her stuff is working
[02:22] <zvacet> ray66 : i will try to find something if I can just a min
[02:22] <vocket> All progams installed in wine go to .wine/drive_c
[02:22] <meoblast001> nor anyone else who i convert to ubuntu
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> unkuiri:  .config/menus/applications-merged
[02:22] <aixenv> hah u tried to convert your mom to linux, that's classic
[02:22] <aixenv> wishful thinking
[02:22] <Canaen> what is the use in having a separate /boot partition and a swap partition?
[02:22] <the1corrupted> meoblast001 Why does it have to be kodak?
[02:23] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: because i don't have the physical capabilities to turn it into a nother brand
[02:23] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: i don't do magic
[02:23] <ziroday> Canaen: many, but if your just a home user its fine without a seperate /boot partition
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> meoblast001:  every digital camera ive ever had. show up as a usb drive. some may have a menu item you have to enable to be 'usb storage' mode
[02:23] <KB1JWQ> Canaen: A separate /boot partition means you can still boot the box in theory even if / gets trashed.
[02:23] <ziroday> aixenv: there are many mum's using linux and ubuntu
[02:23] <Canaen> ziroday: thank you.
[02:23] <KB1JWQ> Canaen: Swap partition grants you improved access times in some instances.
[02:23] <meoblast001> Dr_Willis: Error initializing camera: -60: Could not lock the device
[02:23] <aixenv> ziroday: and many mums wishing their PnP apps worked
[02:24] <the1corrupted> meoblast001: Yeah, there are many ways of getting photos off cameras.  One is to get a MicroSD reader and physically pull the card out of the camera.
[02:24] <Canaen> KB1JWQ: mmk. that sounds like a good idea
[02:24] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: do they give those away like the AOL discs?
[02:24] <ziroday> aixenv: err PnP is a) outdated and b) not an app
[02:24] <aixenv> or wondering why their games dont work ..
[02:24] <aixenv> ziroday: there's apps for pnp devices..
[02:24] <orange-wedge> is there anyway to suppress these text events in xchat?
[02:25] <the1corrupted> meoblast001: Go look at your local Wal-Mart.  They're sure to have one or two laying around.  Just ask for a photo card reader.
[02:25] <aixenv> if someone is used to windows.. that takes transition
[02:25] <ziroday> aixenv: you might want to read up on what the term PnP means http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_Plug_and_Play before tossing it around
[02:25] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: should i ask them if i can have it for free?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> orange-wedge:  it has settings for a lot of that..   and customizable  event text also
[02:25] <norrisg1> can someone help me
[02:25] <aixenv> i know what PnP is
[02:25] <Cakk> Can someone help me change the permissions on my external hdd so i can write to it
[02:25] <the1corrupted> meoblast001: o.o  It's not gonna be free, but it's gonna cost less than $20
[02:25] <norrisg1> why cant i play games that i installed with wine??
[02:25] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: well... in a moneyless society, everything would be free
[02:26] <lovegrows> anyone know what the cost is for ubuntu on amozons ec2?
[02:26] <vertix1> does anybody know where do i set the log directory in pigin? I don't know where is it logging to
[02:26] <meoblast001> but sadly we can't have that
[02:26] <linux_noob> does a VirtualHost need a ServerName?
[02:26] <mrwes> Cakk, what is the mount point?
[02:26] <meoblast001> actually, in a moneyless society, this damn thing would work
[02:26] <bandyo> anyone knows if the problems with ATI x1200 drivers in 9.04 has been sorted out?
[02:26] <the1corrupted> meoblast001 No, in a moneyless society, things would actually cost a whole lot more.  Just not money.
[02:26] <Canaen> in there an advantage in having your boot and swap paritions formatted as ext2 or ext3 rather than just having everything ext4?
[02:26] <ziroday> vertix1: somewhere in ~/.purple/logs
[02:26] <zvacet> ray66 : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html   https://help.ubuntu.com/search.html?cof=FORID%3A9&cx=003883529982892832976%3Ae2vwumte3fq&ie=UTF-8&q=java&sa=Search
[02:27] <ziroday> Canaen: swap partitions are formatted as swap, they have no filesystem
[02:27] <shanliang8008> 是
[02:27] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: well.. this conversation isn't changing the fact that this camera won't work
[02:27] <Canaen> ziroday: what about /boot ?
[02:27] <ziroday> Canaen: its best to have /boot as ext3 if you are going to have it seperate
[02:27] <vertix1> ziroday, i am running off liveCD now. can i change the log directory in pigin?
[02:27] <the1corrupted> meoblast001 Well, I'll tell you right now, a microSD reader is cheaper than a $100 XP license.
[02:27] <ray66> meoblast001...I went thru all kind of fixes and configurations and a $10.00 card reader from walmart fixed the problem
[02:27] <ziroday> vertix1: I would presume so, but don't know how sorry
[02:27] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: no one i know likes Ubuntu except for my sister and she's starting to not like it
[02:28] <Sergeant_Pony> is there a way to have on boot-up the machine show what's it's loading without me having to hit a key combination?
[02:28] <ziroday> meoblast001: if you felt like ranting about ubuntu please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:28] <meoblast001> the1corrupted: i can't keep up with the demands of people and the fuckups of all the companies that aren't supporting major operating systems
[02:28] <unkuiri> Anyone knows of a way to monitor signal strenght using a mobile broadband modem?
[02:28] <meoblast001> ziroday: i'm baned from that channel
[02:28] <orange-wedge> Dr_Willis,   thanks i was getting annoyed at seeing all the joins and quits this much nicer
[02:28] <jlgshsfjoid> when are you developers going to fix Ubuntu to play Flash videos over bluetooth headphones and headsets?
[02:28] <ravager> Ok, look...I REALLY like ubuntu
[02:28] <ziroday> meoblast001: then you shouldn't be discussing it here, there are plenty of other offtopic channels. Also watch your language
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> orange-wedge:  it pays to read the docs for irc clients. :)
[02:29] <meoblast001> ok
[02:29] <meoblast001> idk
[02:29] <ravager> I WANT to use it, but I updated and my sound isn't working AGAIN
[02:29] <meoblast001> i'll just go tell my mom i can't get it to work
[02:29] <the1corrupted> *headesks*
[02:29] <lovegrows> mmmmm bluetooth audio to my headphones, those have been a big FAIL thus far in my gadget life
[02:30] <vertix1> anybody knows how to change the log directory in pigin?
[02:30] <the1corrupted> lovegrows It really isn't worth it unless you have bluetooth in your computer somewhere.
[02:30] <jlgshsfjoid> lovegrows: what
[02:30] <Canaen> ravager: try using pulseaudio
[02:30] <linux_noob> how do i make <VirtualHosts> so that I can have multiple sites use port 443 without it saying that my VirtualHosts are overlapping? Do they all need to be in the same file? is there some sort of equivalent to a "partial class" for virtualhusts?
[02:31] <Canaen> ravager: 9.04 has problems with a buncha sound cards
[02:31] <th0r> vertix, the logs go to ~/.purple/logs and I think that is hardcoded
[02:31] <RHorse> vertix1 you could always make a link :)
[02:32] <lovegrows> I have bluetooth on my computer, and they even show they are connected, with the name and everything. "airbirds connected" but I haven't gotten sound from the computer to go through them:(
[02:32] <thiebaude> :)
[02:32] <jlgshsfjoid> ok i have an idea. why dont you do this. instead of making all kinds of new fancy features for your new versions, why dont you fix the bugs in the current version?
[02:33] <unop> linux_noob, different virtualhosts are identified by the 'hostname' sent in the HTTP request e.g. you'd have something like <VirtualHost www.example.com:443>
[02:33] <ray66> zvacet...I have tried the first http the version is bi.6._07-b06 hot spot 10.0-b23 there are no plugins in the firefox about plugins directory will have a lok at the second suggestions
[02:33] <jlgshsfjoid> can anyone tell me how to get my bluetooth headset working for flash. is that at all possible?
[02:33] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: They did an amazing job with X.org and Wireless devices.
[02:33] <vertix1> i need help on a really weird boot problem with grub under ubuntu 8.10. I have 2 drives, IDE and SCSI and separate /boot paritions. Grub starts booting the kernel, but when it tries to mount the root filesystem it gives me this error: [2.023879] VFS: Cannot open root device "sdb8" or unknown block (0,0)
[02:33] <supernix> I /j #thunderbird
[02:33] <the1corrupted> So anyway...  I got this issue right now that has been plaguing me for the last week or so...  And it's been torture trying to get my laptop's ALPS GlidePoint touchpad to work.  This is starting to drive me up the wall.  But right now, Linux can't even see my touch pad (it doesn't show up in the mouse options) and even though I enabled it in an fdi file, SHMConfig is still disabled...  Help?
[02:33] <unop> linux_noob, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/name-based.html
[02:33] <vertix1> before that, i get this error: [1.959688 crc error
[02:34] <jlgshsfjoid> dsabecky: whats that?
[02:34] <ravager> If I install pulse should i uninstall anything?
[02:34] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: The Ubuntu dev.
[02:34] <vertix1> and before that, i get this: [1.536064] RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0.
[02:34] <jlgshsfjoid> but im talking about bluetooth, dsabecky
[02:35] <Canaen> ravager: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[02:35] <vertix1> but the root partition is clean and is located in the right place and device file is correct
[02:35] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: You did mention bluetooth, but then you said they fix bugs. They do, bluetooth isn't a priority.
[02:35] <Cryptic_Bat>  !pastebin | the1corrupted
[02:36] <vertix1> i even reinstalled 8.10 again, just to make sure, but it still isn't booting, even thou it created new partitions for new install
[02:36] <jlgshsfjoid> dsabecky: why isnt bluetooth a priority?
[02:36] <dsabecky> vertix1: Did you try installing 9.04
[02:36]  * ravager sighs
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> If everythingis a priority then nothing is. :)
[02:36] <ravager> I give up. When the sound issues are fixed i'll try again
[02:36] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: Because there are more important things to fix, which is what they've been doing.
[02:36] <dtchen> ravager: what sound issues?
[02:36] <vertix1> dsabecky, nope, I can't, my windows box got rooted and i am running off liveCD, so i can't even fry anything
[02:36] <orange-wedge> vertix1 so you ran fsck on the partition?
[02:37] <ravager> I am using 9.04, worked fine till I installed updates.
[02:37] <ravager> Now I have no sound again.
[02:37] <|freddy|> hey, I have this question, if I burn ubuntu on a dvd, will it boot normally?
[02:37] <|freddy|> is just that I have no cd's around
[02:37] <jlgshsfjoid> dsabecky: why spend time on all these new features when there are still bugs to fix though?
[02:37] <dtchen> ravager: wget -O ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[02:37] <dtchen> ravager: please tell me the url that script generates
[02:37] <vertix1> is 9.04 big?
[02:38] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: As I said, they are fixing things, like major issues with sound, video, and wireless. There are more important things than Bluetooth. They are doing the best they can.
[02:38] <coz_> |freddy|,  if you mean burn the iso as a dvd iso yes it will work .. it will be a bit slower but it will work
[02:38] <vertix1> is there a minimal install of 9.04 so that i could download it and install from liveCD i am running on right now?
[02:38] <orange-wedge> vertix1 do you have a spare thumb drive?
[02:39] <ravager> That opened up my open office writer
[02:39] <jlgshsfjoid> dsabecky: but from what it sounds like the bluetooth compatibility has actually gotten /worse/
[02:39] <vertix1> orange-wedge, no, i dont
[02:39] <MarcN> My SheevaPlug arrived today with Jaunty pre-installed!  Anyone know if there is an IRC channel for these?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> vertix1:  unetbootin tool, or the usb-disk creater tool can install to a thumbdrive easially enough. :)
[02:39] <dtchen> ravager: it shouldn't have. i presume you ran that whole command string in a Terminal emulator?
[02:39] <vertix1> all i have right now is 2 drives, not even flash
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> vertix1:  Hmm..
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> vertix1:  the live cd  - has an installer.
[02:40] <lovegrows> Bluetooth isn't a priority because you buy it separately from the rest of your computer, and only some of us have bluetooth, but to you and me it is a big deal
[02:40] <ravager> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3e22c769809294cd5851fe626f61f2782311c4dc
[02:40] <|freddy|> coz_: really? slower?
[02:40] <coz_> |freddy|,  yes I have dont this many times  it  installs just slightly slower but it works fine :)
[02:40] <belch> hi
[02:40] <maria_> !news
[02:41] <jlgshsfjoid> is there another linux distro that works with bluetooth better?
[02:41] <vertix1> Dr_Willis, ok, so what do i do from live cd to try 9.04. who knows, may be that one will make my box boot. but i still don't understand why i can't boot this one? its been a solid week of suffering and i tried everything imaginable
[02:41] <dsabecky> jlgshsfjoid: They are more than likely all going to use the same core software, so no. Look around online for fixes or different manager programs.
[02:41] <tzar04> on a new installation of ubuntu 9.04, hal isn't reading fdi files - can someone help me please?
[02:42] <jlgshsfjoid> dsabecky: ok. thanks. :(
[02:42] <dtchen> ravager: does pkill pulseaudio (and then allowing it to autorespawn) help?
[02:42] <belch> please, help, do you guys know if IP fragments packets always like MTU size, MTU size, MTU size, remaining data or in may it in some situation make all the fragments be of the same length?
[02:42] <mib_1zon7o> hi everyone, I installed the restricted ati drivers on JJ and now it won't boot and throws up a black screen with green bars, can I fix this from the live cd ?
[02:43] <vertix1> anybody around who is good at linux booting off of dual drive system IDE/SCSI at the point where root partition is getting mounted?
[02:43] <orange-wedge> vertix1 can you run sudo fsck -Fy /dev/sd
[02:44] <lovegrows> the distro isn't the problem in bluetooth, I dought there is a bluetoothbuntu, or arch for bluetoothers, Unfortunatly you will probably have to command-line it in:(
[02:44] <ravager> im afraid not.
[02:44] <orange-wedge> and insert the physical drive for the / partition
[02:44] <chuck_> mib_1zon7o,  did you run aticonfig --initial from the terminal
[02:44] <jlgshsfjoid> i dont mind command-lining
[02:44] <vertix1> orange-wedge, yep, i ran fsck on all partitions, all clean, no problems of any kind, but i noticed drives get swapped around compared to live CD and grub when it is booting the box
[02:44] <quit_> Hey, is there any equivalent to the "import this" library in Python for the command line in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <ray66> zvacet...The alternatives are all showing correctly The one thing I do not have is the plugin in firefox The link from java to firefox shows the plugin oji.so file but not as a link
[02:44] <jlgshsfjoid> how do i do it though?
[02:44] <jlgshsfjoid> is there a solution
[02:45] <vertix1> orange-wedge, but i have a feeling that scsi drivers are not loaded. but i tried to add initrd and even that did not help
[02:45] <tzar04> I know that the fdi file works and is in the right place because I'm using it on an archlinux laptop properly
[02:45] <mib_1zon7o> chuck_, I installed the driver and rebooted and now I am stuck, how do i get to terminal ?
[02:45] <orange-wedge> vertix1 that should be normal with the drive letters
[02:45] <jlgshsfjoid> i cant command line very good so can you do it for me possibly?
[02:45] <Jason2gs> Hello. [Skipping boring monologue...] can something on Ubuntu load a Microsoft Works Calendar .wcd file?
[02:46] <vertix1> orange-wedge, but i recall running ubuntu after fresh install at least once
[02:46] <MINNIE> HELLO
[02:46] <MINNIE> HELLO
[02:46] <coz_> MINNIE,  hey
[02:46] <vertix1> so it SHOULD boot, but it doesn't. grub was overwritten with XP and my xp got rooted
[02:46] <Cakk> does anyone know how to make a network folder with a windows pc that has a password?
[02:46] <kess> hello, good night
[02:46] <orange-wedge> vertix1 the next thing to check is possibly your bios SATA settings
[02:46] <kess> i've got a strange problem
[02:47] <jlgshsfjoid> !caps | MINNIE
[02:47] <ray66> Hey coz
[02:47] <kess> everything works here (just installed now), except wireless
[02:47] <MINNIE> WAT
[02:47] <kess> the card is a Ralink RT2500
[02:47] <vertix1> orange-wedge, what kind of sata settings do i need to check?
[02:47] <kess> somehow udev is confused about it
[02:47] <MINNIE> WAT DID U SAY
[02:47] <coz_> MINNIE,  make sure you caps lock is not one :)
[02:47] <th0r> vertix1, did I understand taht correctly....you reinstalled xp after installing ubuntu?
[02:47] <kess> and loads the wrong modules for it at the start
[02:47]  * Dr_Willis takes a hammer to MINNIE 's caps lock
[02:48] <kess> (named: rt2x00...)
[02:48] <MINNIE> WY IT CANT BE ON
[02:48]  * ravager bangs his head against his desk and considers going postal
[02:48] <chuck_> mib_1zon7o,  reboot into rescue mode and open root terminal and run that command then reboot
[02:48] <kess> by blacklisting those in the modprobe configuration, it works
[02:48] <coz_> MINNIE,  well it is distracting  so please turn it off :)
[02:48] <kess> using the good modules (rt2500)
[02:48] <quit_> ravager: Do it!
[02:48] <Cakk> can someone help me setup a network folder on linux using a windows share with a password?
[02:48] <kess> but i suspect this is a bad way to fix it
[02:48] <kess> any tip on it?
[02:48] <MINNIE> OK SRRY PPL
[02:48] <orange-wedge> vertix1 sometimes you need to specify ahci
[02:48] <mib_1zon7o> chuck_, i'll try that, thanks
[02:48] <vertix1> th0r, yep, after my box got rooted, i reinstalled xp and that wiped out grub, i reinstalled grub, and nothing would help, no matter what i do
[02:49] <RHorse> mebbe MINNIE has a bad keyboard.
[02:49] <coz_> Cakk,   I would but I have little experience with that  but I am sure someone here can or go to #linux  channel   I am sure someone there can do it also :)
[02:49] <Cakk> hmm k
[02:49] <dedinje> internet browsing extremely slooooow in Ubuntu Jaunty (x86_64) and its not firefox...its every browser
[02:49] <MINNIE> RHORSE R U TRYNA B FUNNI
[02:49] <dedinje> any ideas
[02:49] <vertix1> th0r, i am not sure the rootkit infected some bios or boot sectors cause it progressed really far, down to bios i am afraid
[02:49] <mib_1zon7o> chuck_, btw, what does a -f flag do in the aticonfig command ?
[02:49] <functionofxy> hey, did anyone mange to install dnuos?
[02:49] <rbanffy> Hi folks. I am using jaunty on an Acer Aspire One.  Will it help to install graphic drivers when im running ubuntu on VirutalBox ?  :)
[02:51] <mattwj2002> Ubuntu 9.04 is giving me a huge headache with my video driver
[02:51] <Jason2gs> Hello. Can something on Ubuntu load a Microsoft Works Calendar .wcd file?
[02:51] <mib_1zon7o> chuck_, thanks
[02:51] <Juzman-EeePC> Anyone know how to (successfully) get Artwiz fonts working in jaunty? I symlinked yes-bitmap to /etc/fonts/conf.d/ edited local.conf and fccache -fv
[02:51] <mattwj2002> I have Integrated ATI Radeon X1150 graphics
[02:51] <Juzman-EeePC> I have the fonts in ~/.fonts/
[02:52] <vertix1> orange-wedge, i have separate /boot partitions on both drives, so no matter how it swaps drives, i should be able to boot cause both of those partitions have kernels and all other boot stuff
[02:52] <MINNIE> WAT DOES DAT MEAN
[02:53] <MINNIE> HOW O U SWITCH DO A DIFF CHANELE
[02:53] <orange-wedge> try booting without the ide
[02:53] <genii> MINNIE: /join #channelname                  You may want to fix your capslock at some point
[02:53] <jigp> hello guys how to install other good and safe browser?i have only firefox..i want to have another one so that i can check my 2nd yahoo email in other browser.i cannot check 2 accounts of yahoo at the same time at the same firefox browser or is there other way to open the 2 account of yahoo mail in one browser?
[02:53] <swiftarrow> MINNIE please see my private message
[02:53] <dedinje> is there a help channel in which I can get Ubuntu related help?
[02:53] <orange-wedge> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/87393-help-dual-boot-dual-sata-ubuntu-winxp-2.html
[02:53] <vertix1> orange-wedge, that is what i was thinking about, except i needs to save lots of data off IDE drive
[02:53] <mattwj2002> !ati
[02:54] <swiftarrow> \msg MINNIE to switch channels use \ join #channel name
[02:54] <ray66> zvacet....Are you still with me?
[02:54] <lovegrows> I wish I could get your bluetooth working, but I haven't got mine working yet either. I bet you really want it to work right now but it isn't going to happen. I suggest ubuntuforums.org and a search for bluetooth audio and just go to town command-lineing:)
[02:54] <orange-wedge> yeah i've had an ide drive working with my sata before
[02:54] <vertix1> orange-wedge, ok, assume i'll make it boot without IDE. what do i do then to get my data off ide drive and make it boot eventually?
[02:54] <Sergeant_Pony> is there a way  to monitor what's being loaded on boot-up without having to hit a key combination? I'm running ubuntu 9.04
[02:54] <rbanffy> Nobody using lpia then...
[02:55] <MINNIE> RRY SUMTIN WRONG WIT MY APSLOCK
[02:55] <binarymutant> then why type?
[02:55] <Sergeant_Pony> lol
[02:55] <orange-wedge> i would say get it booting and working...  having two boot partitions is suspect
[02:55] <orange-wedge> you could possibly boot from the disk you are now later
[02:55] <orange-wedge> then backup all the files you need
[02:55] <swiftarrow> Sergeant_Pony, in /boot/grub/menu.lst, remove quiet from the kernel options
[02:56] <MINNIE> io i turned off da caps lock
[02:56] <Salcedian> I guess everybody is pretty much happy running 9:04
[02:56] <orange-wedge> is your sata completely full?
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Salcedian:  ive had very few issues with it.
[02:56] <vertix1> orange-wedge, well i have 1 /boot partition per drive. i don't see a problem with that, especially that both have exact same data. what kind of problems do you expect?
[02:57] <Salcedian> Dr_Willis: like what will that be
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Salcedian:  other then having todo a little tweaking on my Multimedia keyboard.. no issues at all.
[02:57] <vertix1> orange-wedge, well, sata is not completely full. i could make some space on it. how much?
[02:57] <Sergeant_Pony> swiftarrow, thanks :)
[02:58] <RHorse> Minnie, how ya doin'?
[02:58] <swiftarrow> np
[02:58] <RHorse> minnie, no don't go!!!
[02:58] <Salcedian> Dr_Willis: what about ext4
[02:58] <Sergeant_Pony> Salcedian, I'm running 9.04 on an Acer Aspire and it runs great, Best version yet.
[02:58] <MINNIE> IM NOT
[02:58] <RHorse> damn
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Salcedian:  no hassles with that.. not really noticed any differaances with ext3 and 4. I got a box or 2 with ext4 and one with ext3.
[02:58] <RHorse> :(
[02:58] <MINNIE> WII U SAID DAMN
[02:59] <vertix1> orange-wedge, actually, you might have a point with trying to boot without ide. at least i'll know that it CAN boot, then i'll have to figure out what is going on with ide
[02:59] <Ciros> MINNIE:  you dont need to type in all caps ;)
[02:59] <MINNIE> srry
[02:59] <RHorse> :)
[02:59] <genii> Ciros: Their capslock is broken, apparently
[02:59] <mattwj2002> !ati
[02:59] <spence> hi #ubuntu, i purchased a new graphics card and my screen resolution has been capped. i believe i need to install drivers but i've had no luck following ATi's instructions
[02:59] <genii> Or not, perhaps
[02:59] <Ciros> :D
[02:59] <spence> can anyone here advise?
[03:00] <Salcedian> Sergeant_Pony  Dr_Willis that is nice to hear ...
[03:00] <Ciros> wow Matrox, there is a company I havent heard of in forever.
[03:00] <MINNIE> genni: u need to hut up with your smart ass mouth
[03:00] <lovegrows> do you have an older ati card?
[03:00] <q_> Dr_Willis: when do you sleep and what do you do appart from beeing here?
[03:00] <chaorain> I'm using meld to compare two MythTV media backups and Meld wont show any files. Help?
[03:00] <vertix1> orange-wedge, any other ideas? what about it swapping drives around? from liveCD, sata is sda, but when grub is booting, it is sdb. But there is a drive mapping in grub. I could change that map. i recall reading about it somewhere
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> q_:  right now i got 30 to 60 days off work. :)
[03:00] <RHorse> !language | MINNIE
[03:01] <vertix1> orange-wedge, do you have any idea about the drive map and drive swapping by grub?
[03:01] <spence> lovegrows: not especially, it's a 4800 series card purchased in November
[03:01] <Salcedian> Sergeant_Pony- that distro came with it in you aspire one
[03:01] <q_> Dr_Willis: if you still get paid that sound awesome
[03:01] <orange-wedge> vertix1 yeah not too familiar with the syntax
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> q_:  unemployment checks
[03:01] <chaorain> !meld
[03:01] <vertix1> Ciros, Matrox is pro grade stuff, much better than what you use i bet
[03:01] <Sergeant_Pony> Salcedian, I started out with 7.04 and kept going on up to 9.04 and I'm very happy with the progress Ubuntu has made.
[03:02] <q_> Dr_Willis: money is money :)
[03:02] <MINNIE> Genni : wat did u say
[03:02] <jigp> hello guys how to install other good and safe browser?i have only firefox..i want to have another one so that i can check my 2nd yahoo email  in other browser.i cannot check 2 accounts of yahoo at the same time at the same firefox browser or is there other way to open the 2 account  of yahoo mail in one browser?
[03:02] <unkuiri> Hi, Is there a away to monitor signal strenght from a mobile broadband conection?
[03:02] <MINNIE> rhorse : wat did u say
[03:02] <Ciros> vertix1:  I was just saying i havent heard of the company spoken as far as video cards in a while.  you dont need to get defensive  nor hostile
[03:02] <unkuiri> in jaunty
[03:03] <orange-wedge> vertix1 what does the output of sudo fdisk -l look like?
[03:03] <vertix1> orange-wedge, well, syntax is not a problem. you just change the letter names, i just don't quite get how exactly it is working and at which exact point drives get swapped, at the point of creation of grub or at the point of actually booting from MBR
[03:03] <RHorse> jigp I like seamonkey and dillo
[03:03] <Salcedian> Sergeant_Pony that is nice to hear  I have an acer one too...that I am thinking installing another distro like CentOS....but I have one box with ubuntu already on it
[03:03] <mattgyver> Could anyone help me setup xchat to connect to a psybnc?
[03:03] <th0r> jigp, you could install opera via synaptic, but I am not sure you could do what you want to do
[03:03] <MINNIE> tempest mothershed is dat u
[03:03] <vertix1> Ciros, well, i like matrox a lot. i am not defensive, trust me.
[03:03] <q_> RHorse : dillo is ultra-light but you can feel that
[03:04] <Sergeant_Pony> Salcedian, I'm also running the Server version of Ubuntu as well. Very happy with it's performance under heavy load.
[03:04] <chaorain> Meld just shows directories. I need it to show files. Help?
[03:04] <unkuiri> Hi, Is there a away to monitor signal strenght from a mobile broadband conection in jaunty?
[03:04] <RHorse> q_ very. But good for google mail
[03:04] <jigp> RHorse how to install?i look for it in synaptic and there was no file of seamonkey and dillo
[03:05] <q_> are there smartphones that can remote control a terminal via bluetooth?
[03:05] <unkuiri> Is there a away to monitor signal strenght from a mobile broadband conection in jaunty?
[03:05] <q_> that was a warwalkers dream :)
[03:05] <vertix1> Ciros, actually, i am running matrox card right now because color and saturation and font rendering is WAY much better than the video chipset i have installed.
[03:06] <drmrhorse_> jigp: try seamonkey-browser
[03:06] <jigp> drmrhorse_ : in synaptic?
[03:06] <Ciros> just saying you dont hear of them much in consumer electronics anymore.
[03:06] <drmrhorse_> yes
[03:06] <orange-wedge> vertix1 can you run  more /boot/grub/device.map
[03:07] <vertix1> btw, i am looking for web programmers with SQL, HTML, CSS, PHP type of experience and site design for a very interesting project with potential to make lotsa bux. if anybody interested, just pm me
[03:07] <vertix1> also, java would be helful
[03:07] <kerin> i have a second display set up through nvidia-settings - it doesn't work.  the screen is black, but when I move my mouse to the other screen I can see the pointer on the second screen.
[03:08] <coz_> kerin,  ok which nvidia card specifically and which driver version
[03:08] <RHorse> jigp sudo apt-get install seamonkey dillo
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  just drag a window over to the 2nd screen?
[03:08] <vertix1> so, before i reboot, anybody can help me out to figure out this weird boot problem of not being able to mount a clean root file system on right device and partition?
[03:09] <kerin> coz_: gtx260/driver 180.
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  if you can see the pointer move to the 2nd monitor..its working...
[03:09] <supernix> I was lucky enough to make it through c with a b hopefully I will have better luck with PHP and other web languages
[03:09] <kerin> Dr_Willis, that never works - doing so just puts it on the second Compiz screen.
[03:09] <coz_> kerin,  also when you open nvidia-settings and go to xserver display configuration are both monitors shown?
[03:09] <orange-wedge> what does the device map look like?
[03:09] <coz_> kerin,  do you have a background image on the desktop?
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  try disabling compiz. I drag windows to the 2nd moniotor all the time here.. ive never ntoiced compiz affecting that
[03:09] <kerin> Dr_Willis, incorrect.  if it was working my wallpaper'd be visible and i'd be able to open windows there.
[03:09] <vertix1> orange-wedge, are you asking me?
[03:09] <orange-wedge> yep
[03:09] <kerin> coz_: i do not.
[03:09] <jigp> RHorse : what is the best dvd burning in gnome 9.04?i have here brasero.is it ok?i dont want to waste dvd cd blank.i have problem with brasero in 8.04.wasted 6 blank dvd blank
[03:09] <vertix1> just a sec
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  you did enable twinview? using an extended desktop? or did you use 2 seperate X server setting?
[03:10] <kerin> Dr_Willis, no.  on my previous 8.10 install compiz + the second monitor worked fine.
[03:10] <coz_> kerin,  ok  first open a terminal  and paste this     glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
[03:10] <kerin> Dr_Willis, it's configured as a separate display.
[03:10] <coz_> kerin,  just tell me the max texture size on the readout
[03:10] <kerin> coz_, 8192
[03:10] <vertix1> http://pastebin.com/m69143616
[03:11] <RHorse> jigp gnomebaker?
[03:11] <coz_> kerin,  oo nice  you really shouldnt have too much issue with max texture size then
[03:11] <coz_> kerin,  in terminal   lspci | grep -i vga
[03:11] <vertix1> that link was for orange-wedge
[03:11] <kerin> coz_, since i can move my pointer over there at all - and because it worked flawlessly in both 8.10 and the same install dist-upgraded to 9.04 - it isn't a hardware issue.
[03:12] <kerin> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GT200 [GTX260-216] (rev a1)
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> kerin:   i never use it as a seperate display. thats how i though it was supposed to work. Like you describe. I always use it as 'twinview' so i can just drag windows over.. its working that way here. with compiz, 2 dvi monitors, nvidia 8800gtsxxx ,  nvidia drivers 180. Want my xorg.conf ?
[03:12] <coz_> kerin,  no but I wanted to check exact card version before searching
[03:12] <vertix1> orange-wedge, you only need to look at 1st boot entry
[03:13] <kerin> Dr_Willis, it's been working as a separate display for months.  I'm even using the same (functional) xorg.conf.  the issue is originating elsewhere, probably with gnome since my pointer still works.
[03:13] <vertix1> anybody else knows much about booting grub on dual ide/scsi arrangement?
[03:13] <coz_> kerin,  are you setting the dual monitor manually via nvidia-settings?
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  no idea then. heres my xorg.conf if you want to compare. http://pastebin.com/f4697d30d
[03:14] <coz_> kerin,  and you do need to run this as twinview
[03:14] <kerin> coz_: yes.  although, again.  i'm using a known good con-
[03:14] <merkoen> Is there anyway to get better performance in VirtualBox on ubuntu? : ) Video performance..
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> kerin:  Im confused then as to what 'a seperate' display and 'twinview' differ then.
[03:14] <kerin> coz_: no, i do not.  twinview is not what i'm looking for.
[03:14] <kerin> Dr_Willis, then you are not qualified to help me.  thank you.
[03:14] <doleyb> Dr_Willis: a separate display would mean you can't move the mouse or windows from one to another.
[03:15] <coz_> kerin,  ok then you will have some issues with separate xscreens  and I never use separate xscreens so I wont be able to trouble shoot this
[03:15] <vertix1> what is ex-chat? is it a new version of xchat?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  which is what hes describing as being able to do.. so somone is confused here.
[03:15] <q_> merkoen: give it some more mbs from you grafic card, could help
[03:15] <dsabecky> vertix1: It's an XChat joke.
[03:15] <kerin> coz_: this is apparent.  thank you anyway.
[03:15] <coz_> kerin,  although with twinview  windows will open only on the primary monitor  until you drag them to seondary monitor
[03:15] <coz_> kerin,  they will also maximize only on the primary
[03:15] <coz_> kerin,  that can be changed in xorg.conf
[03:16] <vertix1> dsabecky, oh, i see. what kinda joke is this? meaning xchat sux?
[03:16] <cdavis> when I do vconfig add eth1 4 it tells me that I cannot do so becauase eth1 is down? do I have to ifconfig eth1 up first?
[03:16] <steven_> Where can I find instructions on installing the 64-bit version of Ubuntu 9.04?
[03:16] <dsabecky> vertix1: No, it's just a play on words.
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. with twinview i definatly CAN maxamize windows on the 2nd monitor.. and they can rember/open on the 2nd monitor.
[03:16] <gyaresu> Can someone suggest a GUI firewall app that can give popup notifications? I've looked at Firestarter but that's kind of sucky.
[03:16] <gyaresu> !firewall
[03:16] <kerin> coz_, again.  you don't understand the problem.  evidently i have come to the wrong place.
[03:16] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  yes but not unless you put them there
[03:16] <coz_> oh boy
[03:17] <coz_> short temper there
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  actually you can set the DISPLAY variable :) and make them go there first.
[03:17] <vertix1> dsabecky, i see. did they improve much on xchat lately? cause i used it a while back and it was not really upto snuff, at least compared to mirc on windoze
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  shame on us makeing him mad with our imcompantance..
[03:17] <owh> I'm in need of opinion. I'm needing to upgrade my laptop and I'm thinking of virtualizing it. I wrote it up here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7268106#post7268106 - any comment or insights?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  i think he was a tad confused.
[03:17] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  I agree  but  most users are not going to think of that at first except kerin who didnt have patience enough :)
[03:18] <dsabecky> vertix1: mIRC is the best IRC client I've ever used. To be fair though, I wrote a ton of scripts to modify it, which you can do in XChat
[03:18] <vertix1> orange-wedge, did you have a chance to look at my grub config?
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  gonna try 'seperate displays' to see what happens. :)
[03:19] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  I dont think you will like separate xscreens if you are used to twinview :)
[03:19] <q_> why are so many applications KDE or Gnome specific?
[03:19] <vertix1> dsabecky, yep, mirc is pretty powerful, but some stuff is kinda confusing in the menus, but that's ok, if ANY linux irc client would be as good as mirc, that would be great. i wonder why he did not port it to linux
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  what he was describing doing was exactly how twinview works for me.
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> brb
[03:19] <orange-wedge> vertix1 yeah is it identical for each /boot partition?
[03:19] <vertix1> that is where Java rocks. You don't even have to port anything, it just runs binary compatible on any os that runs jvm
[03:19] <coz_> q_,  they are written as separate desktop environments  and gnome is written in C  and kde is written in C+=
[03:19] <coz_> C++
[03:20] <orange-wedge> vertix1 you mentioned you have tow
[03:20] <coz_> Dr_Willis,  but with twinview your dekstop background should stretch across both monitors
[03:20] <vertix1> orange-wedge:, yep, i just tried to play with different things so i dont' have to reboot all the time into live cd, but nothing would help
[03:21] <vertix1> orange-wedge, do i have to use initrd to make sure scsi drives are loaded?
[03:21] <SineDeviance> i have installed ubuntu 9.04 using wubi. i want to go to a real install. is there a good way i can keep all my gnome/compiz settings?
[03:21] <q_> : SineDeviance copy aor home folder
[03:21] <q_> your
[03:21] <doleyb> SineDeviance: especially .gnome and .gnome2_*
[03:21] <SineDeviance> q_, thats all i gotta do?
[03:21] <vertix1> btw, how big is 9.04 download?
[03:22] <Dante123> hi all, I have a dual-boot windows xp and ubuntu system.  The ubuntu side sees and can use the dvd and cd drive.  Neither shows up under windows, and yet i used cd to install windows in the first place.  Any ideas???
[03:22] <SineDeviance> vertix1, about 700meh
[03:22] <SineDeviance> meg*
[03:22] <q_> SineDeviance: yea, back it up and overwrite it later (espaccially the hidden folders!)
[03:22] <Dante123> When I check the bios at boot up, it shows hard drive, but neither cdrom shows up....yet they work under ubuntu?  What gives?
[03:22] <orange-wedge> vertix1 i doubt it is your scsi modules
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> Hmmmm
[03:22] <vertix1> i wonder if what i am having problem with booting isn't a bug that's been fixed in 9.04
[03:22] <q_> SineDeviance: you'll have to reinstall all packages that you installed now, but the settings will be kept
[03:22] <SineDeviance> q_, okay. but aren't there settings in those folders that correspond to the wubi setup and wont work on a real one? (i'm talking like drive paths and such)?
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> with seperate displays I got a Gnome Panel on both :) and the same wallpaper on both
[03:22] <joanki123> geordi {int test =5; cout << test; }
[03:22] <joanki123> oops
[03:22] <joanki123> sorry
[03:23] <vertix1> orange-wedge, but what it could be then? i tried every single conceivable combination of things and root partition is clean. i can't be boot sector on that partition, could it?
[03:23] <genii> Dante123: Sounds more like a Windows issue than an Ubuntu issue. But if I had to guess, install your drivers for whatever chipset controls the cd/dvd. May get more help in ##windows
[03:23] <q_> SineDeviance: I'm no Pro, but copying /home/ is a common thing to do and most path in linux are standard paths (wubi has the same structure like you final install will have)
[03:24] <SineDeviance> q_, ok
[03:24] <SineDeviance> thanks
[03:24] <orange-wedge> vertix1 i think it just might be the ide drive
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> I really dont see aht one gains by seperate displays vs 'twinview' :)
[03:24] <radixor> hi
[03:25] <vertix1> orange-wedge, IDE drive? how so? it is a perfectly working drive. never had a single problem with it. what could be a problem with it?
[03:25] <doleyb> Dr_Willis: it's an entirely different thing.  For example if you wanted to run gnome and kde at the same time.  If you wanted two people (with 2 mice and 2 keyboards and 2 monitors) sitting at one PC.
[03:25] <orange-wedge> vertix1 did you have that drive as boot drive before?  does it have a boot sector?
[03:25] <vertix1> orange-wedge, and it is a pretty old maxtor drive, so the drivers are there for years
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  some how i got the gnome desktop across both.
[03:26] <radixor> i was wondering why does amarok work in gnome, i thought it worked only in kde? isn't it qt based?
[03:26] <maxagaz> how to prevent a process to use more than x% of the CPU and y% of the RAM ?
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  they are 2 copies of gnome i guess is what i am looking at.
[03:26] <radixor> i have both desktops installed, but i can run most kde apps seamlessly in gnome too
[03:26] <orange-wedge> vertix1 you may have clashing boot sectors
[03:26] <vertix1> orange-wedge, yep, i had it as a boot drive b4 and it was ok
[03:26] <genii> maxagaz: renice may work for at least the cpu usage
[03:26] <vertix1> orange-wedge, i even swapped drives in bios and still no luck
[03:26] <doleyb> Dr_Willis: Yeah, that would be a common result.   But there are many other things that could be done.
[03:26] <Dante123> genii problem is I think I need cd drive working to install drivers...but I will see if I can dl from web.  Thanks.
[03:27] <orange-wedge> vertix1 theres a way to delete the boot sector in linux recovery mode
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  but its working exactly as he described.. :) i think he was actually using twinview by mistake... and dident realize it
[03:27] <vertix1> orange-wedge, what do you mean clashing boot sectors?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  but what do we know... We are just morons i guess. heh
[03:27] <luminoso> where is menu.lst in kubuntu 9.04?
[03:27] <fornix> radixor: there is nothing to stop kde applications from running in gnome if the appropriate libraries are present
[03:27] <chaorain> is there a ubuntu program that can scan windows for viruses?
[03:27] <orange-wedge> vertix1 well they both probably have boot records
[03:27] <q_> is it easy to set up a dual-screen dual-system (2 mice 2 keyboards 2 monitors 2 useres)?
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> q_:  i dont thinkits 'easy'
[03:28] <doleyb> q_: No it isn't easy yet.  It still requiress some low-level nastiness.
[03:28] <vertix1> orange-wedge, well why would i need to delete a boot sector for root parition? the MBR was overwritten with grub on both drives anyway
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> q_:  and i did see some app/program that was supposed to let you do it easier..but it was comercial.. and i dont rember its name
[03:28] <radixor> fornix: super cool:) thanks a lot fornix!
[03:28] <doleyb> q_: Back in the 80s you could buy computers set up for 16 at a time like that, pre-setup.
[03:28] <q_> doleyb: the good old days...
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> q_:  use serial terminals! :)
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> How much time does the Intrepid -> Jaunty upgrade take? (considering I'll be upgrading from the alternate ISO)
[03:29] <vertix1> orange-wedge, yep, they do both have boot records because it is MBR, so it MUST have it. on the first partition of a drive at least
[03:29] <q_> Dr_Willis: whats that?
[03:29] <doleyb> Dr_Willis: I had a large cube Wang computer with 10+ serial ports for the terminals... I lost it somewhere.   I don't know how I lost it, because its huge.
[03:29] <spence> getting an error when i try to install ATi drivers vcdk missing, aborting install.
[03:29] <luminoso> where is menu.lst (grub) in kubuntu 9.04??
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> q_:  a way to hook up a lot of terminals to a server.. to allow dozens of people access
[03:29] <spence> i googles but i don't know how to get that
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  its under the couch.
[03:29] <orange-wedge> vertix1 so yeah i'm not sure how a system woudl behave two MBRs
[03:29] <owh> luminoso: That would be in /boot/grub
[03:30] <jigp> RHorse : ok ill install that too (gnomebaker)
[03:30] <luminoso> owh, no file there. boots directly to windows
[03:30]  * spence is reminded i need to clean up my grub file
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  so as far as i can tell.. without a lot of tweaking the seperate displays is a tad useless..  :)
[03:30] <vertix1> orange-wedge, and that ide drive does not cause any conflict with my redhat linux (installed on ide) and sata drive being used in the same configuration
[03:30] <luminoso> owh, i think it's because vista loader. but i cant edit menu.lst to change that
[03:31] <jigp> hello how to install shackwave and adobe flash player in ubuntu 9.04?
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> !flash | jigp
[03:31] <doleyb> Dr_Willis: Yeah fairly, although if you run DISPLAY=:1 mplayer -fs dvd://1
[03:31] <vertix1> orange-wedge, there is no problem with 2 MBRs, you MUST have an MBR on the 1st partition of a drive
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  allready figured that out. :)
[03:31] <q_> is there a shockwave for linux?
[03:31] <vertix1> otherwise that drive is not bootable
[03:31] <orange-wedge> vertix1 so you can choose the redhat ant it boots
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> q_: Nope
[03:31] <genii> q_: No
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  i did notice the gnome panels on the 2nd display launch stuff.. that then appears on the wrong display heh
[03:31] <WebcamWonder> How much time does the Intrepid -> Jaunty upgrade take? (considering I'll be upgrading from the alternate ISO)
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  and with the gnome desktop i can drag icons to the 2nd display.. they then launch onthe first display also.. heh
[03:32] <mauhur> How can I modify my keymap to do this: ' + c = ç ?
[03:32] <vertix1> orange-wedge, yep, when i chose redhat, it boots ok
[03:32] <vertix1> the ide drive is 1st bios drive
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  exactly like we was telling that guy.. but i guess he knows best.
[03:32] <linux_noob> What risks are associated with upgrading Ubuntu distrus?
[03:32] <vertix1> if i chose sata as 1st bios drive, then redhat does not boot because grub config for it is incorrect
[03:33] <Gnea> linux_noob: you could lose all of your data
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> doleyb:  yea with out using a custome .xinitrc or somthing.. this is a bit annoying. :) time to reset it back to twinview.
[03:33] <q_> damn, how to send pms?
[03:33] <linux_noob> gnea how likely is that :x
[03:33] <vertix1> anybody else might have some idea about this boot problem?
[03:34] <vertix1> cause i am swampted with it for a week now
[03:34] <q_> !gnash
[03:34] <q_> !pm
[03:34] <behappy> Hello what command give me 20 process make high load sort by cpu usage ? same top stat output
[03:34] <nafi_co> ce_mutzz
[03:34] <mauhur> How can I modify my keymap to do this: ' + c = ç ?
[03:35] <vertix1> orange-wedge, what was that ahci thing you were talking about in bios? can you tell me how to try to set it?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Yea  - can say twinview beats seperate displays. :)
[03:35] <luminoso> owh, any idea?
[03:35] <Gnea> linux_noob: it depends on many things: a) how good your hardware is, b) if you have backed up your data already, c) if you perform all of the required steps, in the proper order, your chances of losing your data are slim, d) if lightening strikes and takes the system down in the middle of the upgrade, and the surge is so strong that it destroys your hard drive motor
[03:35] <owh> luminoso: Idea of what?
[03:36] <behappy> I would like to logger 20 higher ps stats , how to do that ?
[03:36] <spence> how do i find current installed version of ubuntu?
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> spence:  $  lsb_release  -a
[03:36] <xangua> hello, is there something i can do to be able to use live cd in my onld pc/pentium4/1GBram ¿¿
[03:36] <vertix1> Gnea: I like that one! makes me very confident
[03:36] <spence> 8.04, cheers
[03:36] <luminoso> owh, how to mix ubuntu and vista loader
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> xangua:  that should run on that system.
[03:36] <Gnea> vertix1: thanks! i'm a firm believer in surge protectors and UPSes
[03:37] <multi_io> looks like the / (root) filesystem for an Ubuntu 9.04 installation must be at least ~2GB, or otherwise the installer complains? Is that true?
[03:37] <xangua> the LTS versión is what i have installed before but the nev ubuntu jaunty does not load, it stays in a black screen after the 'loading bar' is full
[03:37] <owh> luminoso: Well, may I suggest that you ask the channel that question?
[03:37] <linux_noob> gnea given my luck, i think i'll hold off on that update :/
[03:37] <vertix1> Gnea, in the place i am in right now, if i did not have UPS, i'd be rebooting 20 times/day
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> multi_io:  ive never noticed.. i would think 6GB would be the min id want to use.
[03:37] <xangua> Dr_Willis: but it soesn't
[03:37] <vertix1> i can't even imagine booting without UPS
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> xangua:  perhaps state what it is doing/not doing exactly?
[03:37] <Gnea> vertix1: ouch
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> vertix1:  I got my fileserver hooked into the same outlet as the dishwasher. :)
[03:38] <multi_io> Dr_Willis: I have /home, /tmp/, /usr/, /var/ on separate volumes. / shouldn't require that much space then, should it?
[03:38] <Gnea> linux_noob: if you're not familiar with the process, then yeah, I recommend holding off as well
[03:38] <vertix1> and i used to drive a very nice cadi in da silicon valley, consulting the biggest and baddest of them all, like Intel and HP
[03:38] <xemacs4321> p
[03:38] <vertix1> :)
[03:38] <xangua> Dr_Willis: i select to start using without install and when the ubuntu menubar is full it stays in a black screen
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> multi_io:  ive found lately that other then a seperate /home   using lots of other  partitions can cause more hassles then you gain.
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> multi_io:  at least you dident try to put /etc/ on its own partition.
[03:39] <q_> Dr_Willis : partitions or Drives?
[03:39] <vertix1> and now i can't even boot ubuntu after perfectly clean installation without ANY errors
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> q_:  i tend to use 3 partitions on a normal install  / /home and swap. thats about it. :)
[03:39] <vertix1> what do you call this?
[03:40] <orange-wedge> Dr_Willis...  yeah and i will never use LVM for my root or boot partitions ever again
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> q_:  i do have one box with /home on its own drive :)
[03:40] <Gnea> vertix1: bad hardware