[12:01] <SonicChao> soester, why do you want windows?
[12:01] <biscon> Savage: have you googled the error msg?
[12:01] <bbrazil> soester: usb keyboard?
[12:01] <soester> usb keyboard, wireless
[12:01] <stefg> coopster: no, removing 'quiet splash' works around the bug... I'm running -25 now, but without usplash, but have the DVD connected
[12:01] <santa44> SGershon: It seems to be a distribution specific problem because the laptop users said that the can shutdown with Kantonix and Windows but not with Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[12:01] <mada> soester: yeah, i don't think wireless is supported at boot default, i am pretty sure there is a fix for this somewhere around google
[12:02] <soester> SonicChaos: I don't want windows, but my sister will
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: try using a ps/2? There'sn option in grub to change the default menu item, but them you won't be able to get back to ubuntu
[12:02] <SonicChao> !tell scanner_X about gaim
[12:02] <njkt> jrib, well it worked... and i fixed it, looks like i was missing a couple files.  Thanks.
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: maybe turn on the usb->ps/2 thing in the bios?
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: compatability mode or somesuch
[12:02] <jrib> njkt: great
[12:02] <SonicChao> soester, I thought it may be for a program or something
[12:02] <soester> bbrazil: In will go into the bios and look for it, thanks
[12:03] <xst> Normally I write "dpkg-reconfigure locales" in order to redefine the list of installed locales. But now it just re-calculates the locales giving me no selection list. How do I modify the list of installed locales then?
[12:03] <soester> Ok, I will try the bios thing
[12:03] <coopster> stefg:  thanks, i'll try that as soon as i get home
[12:03] <bbrazil> xst: check the options on dpkg-reconfigure, the priopirty thing might do it
[12:03] <mikeo1> where is the correct fonts directory
[12:03] <mikeo1> for xorg
[12:03] <mikeo1> so it can find default font fixed
[12:03] <noah> my media keys play, next/prev track, pause are having no effect on rhythmbox, although they seem to be set correctly in the keyboard shortcuts dialog... why might this be?
[12:04] <Savage> !sound
[12:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:04] <remnon> gah
[12:04] <mikeo1> !fonts
[12:04] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[12:04] <remnon> won't work
[12:04] <MrPockets> how hard would it be to burn the ambiant visuals you get in totem while listen to music onto a DVD?
[12:04] <remnon> damnit.. i need to mount it so i can get a shortcut onto me desktop
[12:05] <remnon> so, does anyone remember the command for that ?
[12:05] <xst> bbrazil: Nope. Even -p low just regenerates the locales without showing the selection list
[12:05] <remnon> see, i haven't done that in about a year now, and just installed ubuntu onto a new machine, and had some beers in the process... which means i'm quite tipsy
[12:05] <remnon> heh
[12:06] <biscon> MrPockets: pretty hard probably since they're procedurally generated. You should examine the totem source, find out if the visualisations is a seperate library.. if it is download it and write a program that does what you want
[12:06] <Savage> google is no help to me :(
[12:06] <bbrazil> xst: odd, checked for bugs on launchpad?
[12:06] <biscon> MrPockets: or put them in fullscreen and record them from the video out on your card
[12:07] <MrPockets> biscon, thats kinda more what im capaple of doing
[12:07] <biscon> Savage: let me have a go, what was that error message?
[12:08] <Aven> hey, how do you view all plugins?
[12:08] <Aven> in firefox
[12:08] <biscon> MrPockets: what about the fullscreen recording thinggie?
[12:08] <scanner_X> hey, how do i install things with alien.  What do i type in the command line
[12:08] <Aven> isn't it supposed to be Help > About Plug-ins? cause it's not there...
[12:08] <noah> Savage: was that !sound for me? i don't have a problem with sound, only the media keys...
[12:08] <necrite> hi all
[12:09] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone explain to me how I'm meant to download amarok from the instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[12:09] <necrite> please help! :P .. i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to breezy ando now i cant start any gnome app
[12:09] <matju> i just plugged in a IDE drive on USB using an adaptor, and contrary to habit, Ubuntu doesn't detect it anymore. It normally appears as /dev/sda. any hints of things i should watch out for, or commands that i should try to run?
[12:09] <dasGewitter> So, after telling XChat-GNOME, to have a transparent, I can't open XChat anymore
[12:10] <Savage> noah: sorry im new to mirc it kept hearing a beeping noise i thought the ! sound would turn it off lol
[12:10] <vincenz> Anyone Anyone have any experience with xinerama.   I am using LAMP which defaults to php4. Is it a good idea to let the php5 dependencies go in ?
[12:10] <necrite> i have one amd64
[12:10] <mada> Savage: why using mirc?
[12:10] <_thumper_> hi all
[12:10] <dslboyz> hello, i just upgraded to 6.06 LTS and am unable to login now?  i booted into recovery mode and added a user (useradd) but it still wont let me login?
[12:10] <_thumper_> I'm trying to secure a subversion server
[12:11] <_thumper_> using apache and ssl
[12:11] <mada> necrite: what about amd64?
[12:11] <necrite> please help! :P .. i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to breezy ando now i cant start any gnome app
[12:11] <_thumper_> I already had a local svn server running though
[12:11] <hctibtipots> HELP????
[12:11] <_thumper_> so all the files in /etc/subversion were owned by user svn
[12:11] <_thumper_> now using apache
[12:11] <mada> necrite: update to dapper
[12:11] <njkt> jrib, ok this sounds dumb but when using pbuilder where does it dump the binary package? lol
[12:11] <_thumper_> I need to make sure that apache can write to the repostory
[12:12] <_thumper_> docs say change ownership to apache
[12:12] <_thumper_> however httpd doesn't run as user apache
[12:12] <_thumper_> ideas?
[12:12] <hctibtipots> trying to execute this file ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run, and dont know how to
[12:12] <jrib> njkt: /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[12:12] <santa44> how can i update my kernel ?
[12:12] <njkt> ah ok, thanks
[12:12] <jrib> ubotu: tell hctibtipots about ati
[12:12] <biscon> hctibtipots: try chmod o+x ati-drivet etc.. then ./ati-driver..etc
[12:12] <compengi> is there any ssh channel here?
[12:13] <stefg> necrite: radical and uncool would be 'sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'
[12:13] <mikeo1> WTF
[12:13] <mikeo1> where the hell is default font fixed
[12:13] <mikeo1> getting sick of it not working
[12:13] <necrite> mikeol xfont-base
[12:14] <mikeo1> already have the fonts installed
[12:14] <JaZy84> if i accidently did the base install and want an x interface can i install it off the cd
[12:14] <mikeo1> and its xfonts-base
[12:14] <stefg> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig?
[12:14] <hctibtipots> ok i did that and it sed i need to run the file as super user
[12:14] <JaZy84> and if so what is the name i want cuz sudo apt-get install gnome  says it doesn't exsist
[12:14] <biscon> JaZy84: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[12:15] <JaZy84> ty
[12:15] <goonies> heh i just tried apt-get install x-chat and it says it doesnt exist =\
[12:15] <DoubLe|afk> hi leute
[12:15] <DoubLe> germans here
[12:15] <DoubLe> ?
[12:15] <biscon> hctibtipots: sudo ./filename .. but perhaps you should check up on the ubuntu guides for your card, don't know if the got a "wrapper" package in apt
[12:16] <stefg> !de
[12:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:16] <jolmash> hello all, could anybody help me on installing tha lame mp3 encoder? please!
[12:16] <matju> stefg: when i disconnect and reconnect, it only says:
[12:16] <jolmash> I have Ubuntu server with gnome, I have xfce instead
[12:16] <cntb> !il
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about il
[12:16] <Nolt> hello
[12:16] <matju> stefg: [6774335.900000]  usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3
[12:16] <jrib> goonies: xchat, no dash
[12:16] <matju> stefg: [6774375.816000]  usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[12:16] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:17] <goonies> ive aso tried that jriv
[12:17] <goonies> jrib:
[12:17] <necrite> stefg: can i exclude openoffice from ubuntu-desktop _
[12:17] <necrite> ?
[12:17] <jrib> !info xchat
[12:17] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[12:17] <jrib> goonies: do you have universe enabled?
[12:17] <vincenz> Anyone have any experience with xorg.conf, I can't get xinerama setup
[12:17] <goonies> i only installed it last night
[12:17] <goonies> if it doesnt come enabled probaly not
[12:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about repos
[12:17] <cntb> israelis here ?
[12:18] <Nolt> i want ask how to enable more resolutions in dapper ( in windows i have more than only 1024x768 and in ubuntu i have max resolution 1024x768) Please help !
[12:18] <Nolt> any ideas ?
[12:18] <biscon> Nolt: yeah
[12:18] <stefg> matju: who knows what this 'adapter' does... ??? maybe a manual sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt gives you at least access
[12:18] <hyphenated> !resolution
[12:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output.  This makes sure that everything is in place
[12:19] <biscon> Nolt: when I installed dapper it did the same thing to me. I opened xorg.conf and added the resolutions I needed
[12:19] <wazzu> Have people started to receive their free Dapper Drake CD?
[12:19] <matju> stefg: and it's not sdb nor sdc either
[12:19] <mikeo1> because i cant start x
[12:19] <Nolt> i see
[12:19] <mikeo1> because x cant find default font 'fixed'
[12:20] <matju> stefg: i did try /etc/init.d/hotplug restart and then unplugged and replugged the device
[12:20] <biscon> Nolt: I would recommend also setting the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.
[12:20] <matju> stefg: and i tried several hard disks
[12:20] <matju> stefg: lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0402:5621 ALi Corp. USB 2.0 Storage Device
[12:20] <stefg> matju: hmmm... sorry then my 101-tips are exhausted. I guess it's the 'adapter'
[12:20] <hyphenated> mikeo1: did you do a default desktop install?
[12:20] <necrite> stefg, dapper  is las stable relece?
[12:21] <cntb> double should ave known linux prefers authentication not like WINDOWZE 98
[12:21] <necrite> stefg, it is good idea to change to?
[12:21] <Nolt> biscon: yes but how i can know what horizontal and vertical refresh will be correct :P
[12:21] <GBoS> wazzu: i have
[12:21] <GBoS> got it two days ago
[12:21] <hctibtipots> how do you change to super user???
[12:21] <stefg> necrite: i you don't desperatly need the 2.6.15 kernel breezy is still a valid option
[12:21] <cntb> !guide
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about guide
[12:22] <Nolt> all i know in windows 1024x768 works in 85refresh and 1200x1024 with 72 or 75
[12:22] <wazzu> Thanks GBos
[12:22] <Blaze^^> how can i have sound in vmware's WindowsXP ?
[12:22] <GBoS> np
[12:22] <VooDoo> hctibtipots: use sudo
[12:22] <matju> hctibtipots: sudo bash
[12:22] <biscon> Nolt: its printed in your monitors manual. if you have thrown that out you can often find it by googling the model
[12:22] <cntb>  - >!guide  should lead to unofficial ubuntuguide.org which has great deal of solutions
[12:23] <Philosophy> Hello
[12:23] <mikeo1> where is default font fixed
[12:23] <mikeo1> and how can i make x find it
[12:23] <cntb> ppl run and see 4 yourself http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:23] <Nolt> ok
[12:24] <Philosophy> ok thanks
[12:24] <biscon> Nolt: when you find the numbers put them in the HorizSync and VertRefresh fields in the monitor section in your xorg.conf
[12:24] <gnomefreak> cntb: this is an official ubuntu channel there for official docs are used for best support
[12:24] <ciaron> is there a front end app for editing xorg.conf?
[12:25] <Nolt> ok
[12:25] <Nolt> thx
[12:25] <mikeo1> where is default font 'fixed' ?
[12:25] <biscon> Nolt: then you find the screen section.. there are resolution lines looking like this eg: Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:25] <vincenz> How do I get a higher resolution in text-consoles
[12:25] <cntb> ok butubuntu is really good for novices
[12:25] <biscon> Nolt: add your modes under all bit depths.. the first one is the one X starts in pr default
[12:25] <mikeo1> not when it doesnt work
[12:25] <hyphenated> mikeo1: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046&page=4 <-- start reading at #38
[12:25] <hctibtipots> what is sudo bash???
[12:25] <mikeo1> i did an apt-get dist-upgrade and have lost all use of the pc
[12:25] <neotard> vincenz:  you need to set the vga parameter at boot time.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: dapper?
[12:25] <mikeo1> i have already read through all that
[12:25] <Nolt> biscon: http://www.samtron.com/PRODUCT/76e_spec.html here is it and all i need is put those verti and hori refreshes ? :D:D:
[12:26] <mikeo1> from breezy to dapper
[12:26] <hyphenated> mikeo1: what do you mean lost all use of the PC?
[12:26] <mikeo1> server version
[12:26] <biscon> hctibtipots: an ancient japanese martial arts attack rendering the subject paralyzed from the neck down
[12:26] <mikeo1> x cant start
[12:26] <cntb> 1- get there 2 -control -f find what you need 3-start executing solution
[12:26] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:26] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: what video card do you have?
[12:26] <stefg> vincenz: boot with a vga=0x303 (800x600) or vga=0x317 (1024x768) kernel parameter
[12:26] <hyphenated> mikeo1: yeah, but you can log into one of the text prompts
[12:26] <biscon> Nolt: yups if you scroll up I told you where to put the values in the xorg.conf file :)
[12:26] <mikeo1> yes
[12:26] <mikeo1> nvidia
[12:26] <Nolt> =]
[12:26] <mikeo1> drivers are fine
[12:26] <xst> I just installed the language-support for my language, but still there is only US english in the language list. Also dpkg-reconfigure locales only generates en_US locales.
[12:26] <Nolt> thanks man
[12:26] <hctibtipots> well i am trying to change the resoultion of my pc
[12:27] <mikeo1> that was the first error, but i installed nvidia-glx
[12:27] <mikeo1> now i am getting the default font fixed error
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: are you sure you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <mikeo1> i already have had xfs installed and reconfigured xserver-xorg
[12:27] <mikeo1> yes
[12:27] <biscon> Nolt: and don't remember to add the new modes to the list as well :)
[12:27] <mikeo1> and i reconfigured fontconfig too
[12:27] <neotard> vincenz:  in your grub menu.lst file there should be a line.. something like append=""  , you'd add vga=(mode setting).
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[12:27] <ciaron> mikeo1: vncserver?
[12:27] <mikeo1> no
[12:28] <mikeo1> ubuntu server
[12:28] <vincenz> neotard: where is this file found?
[12:28] <mikeo1> vnc server gives the same problem
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: server install has _no_ gui at all
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: server is text only unless you install x
[12:28] <mikeo1> i know
[12:28] <mikeo1> i installed one
[12:28] <CarlFK> Ther eused to be a 'terminal server client' to connect to windows terminal servers - where did it go?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: what did you install?
[12:28] <biscon> Nolt: in case you don't know you have to restart the x server inorder for the new settings to become active.. you can do that easiest with ctrl + alt + backspace, but beware, all apps close instantly
[12:28] <neotard> vincenz:  should be in /boot/grub, just called "menu.lst"
[12:28] <mikeo1> kdebase
[12:28] <mikeo1> and gnome
[12:29] <mikeo1> dont like all the bloat the normal ubuntu comes with
[12:29] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <mikeo1> hell no
[12:29] <ciaron> i installed vncserver on the server edition and i had to symlink some font directories to get it to start
[12:29] <mikeo1> that will add like 1gb
[12:29] <mikeo1> it worked fine before i upgraded
[12:29] <mikeo1> it should work now
[12:29] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: kdebase wont give you xserver
[12:29] <ciaron> it was complaining that it could find font files
[12:29] <mikeo1> well i installed xserver too
[12:29] <mahadeva_> i need a mp3 player for ubuntu]
[12:29] <mikeo1> no packages were removed in the upgrade, and it worked fine before the upgrade... so it should still work
[12:29] <mahadeva_> need help
[12:29] <vincenz> neotard: ah found it, yes :), just not the append bit
[12:30] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: paste the output of dpkg -l on pastebin please
[12:30] <vincenz> On another note, is there a proprietary ati driver that is packaged for dapper?
[12:30] <stefg> mikeo1: then... go dying without fonts... there's a package missing and if you won't figure out what it is, you've got to trust the ubuntu-devs
[12:30] <algor> vincens italian?
[12:30] <Nolt> biscon: look hmm where exactly i should place refreshes ?
[12:30] <Nolt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16788
[12:30] <jolmash> hello all, could anybody help me on installing tha lame mp3 encoder? please!
[12:31] <neotard> vincenz:  on the kernel line you'll add "vga="  then after the equals goes a vesa text mode
[12:31] <mikeo1> where can i download default font 'fixed'
[12:31] <biscon> Nolt: search for this HorizSync for the horizontal
[12:31] <CarlFK> vincenz: yes - something -glx (i think)
[12:31] <Nolt> there arent any options there :P
[12:31] <mikeo1> and installing a bunch of useless shit that i dont need isnt going to fix my fonts, it will just slow down my server
[12:31] <CarlFK> vincenz: search for glx :)
[12:31] <biscon> Nolt: and VertRefresh for the vertical, just replace the values with your monitors
[12:32] <CarlFK> mikeo1: watch the language
[12:32] <algor> know faq for wpa2 install?
[12:32] <borntobewild> "what is the location of the make program on your machine??"
[12:32] <borntobewild> what is the answer?
[12:32] <Nolt> yea but i dont have VertRefresh :D
[12:32] <CarlFK> borntobewild: what wants to know? :) (really)
[12:32] <ciaron> mikeo1: whats the error message you're getting?
[12:33] <biscon> Nolt: really? you're looking in the Section "monitor" thing?
[12:33] <borntobewild> ?
[12:33] <KenSentMe> Can somebody help me using gpg in squirrelmail?
[12:33] <dereks> does beagle in dapper currently index thunderbird
[12:33] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: i asked for the ouput of that command so i can see what is going on your choice want help paste the output to pastebin if not feel free to read help.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <mikeo1> fatal server error: could not open default font fixed or soemthing
[12:33] <vincenz> CarlFK: I hope you don't mean fglrx
[12:33] <borntobewild> vmware tools
[12:33] <borntobewild> CarlFK do you know the answer?
[12:33] <Nolt> in xorg.conf i dont have any VerRefresh or somthing like that
[12:33] <Nolt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16788
[12:33] <Nolt> look in paste
[12:33] <CarlFK> vincenz: not athta - let me look
[12:33] <borntobewild> CarlFK:?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Nolt: yes you should its vertical refresh rate
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: then add one.. its VertRefresh btw
[12:34] <neotard> vincenz:  regarding ati stuff, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:34] <Nolt> ok
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: mine looks like this: VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
[12:34] <CarlFK> borntobewild:no.  but i bet you have a bigger problem that has a simple solution
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: just add the line under the HorizSync one
[12:34] <borntobewild> what do you mean?
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: with your own values of course :)
[12:34] <borntobewild> it's a simple ques
[12:34] <neotard> vincenz:  most important thing to remember in the document is to restart after you do all the installs.  I've had several people who forget, then rip into it expecting it broken.
[12:35] <stefg> mikeo1: you have the transcoded font packages, haven't you?
[12:35] <rome5677> I just bought a Dell with a Pentium D cpu, which  supports EM64T. I'm going to install 6.06 AMD Desktop edition on Ubuntu. I just wanted to know if the kernel it installs will suppot the dual core on the cpu or will I need to install another kernel, possible smp, to support the dual core? Thanks
[12:35] <vincenz> neotard: those are not the ati ones
[12:35] <mikeo1> what are those
[12:35] <Nolt> ok
[12:35] <Nolt> thanks
[12:35] <Nolt> again
[12:35] <CarlFK> borntobewild: i guess /tmp.  now back to my question: who (what) is asking?
[12:35] <Nolt> and good night =]
[12:35] <mikeo1> yes
[12:35] <NickGarve1> he
[12:35] <NickGarve1> /ghost nickgarvey
[12:35] <mikeo1> i have the transcoded fonts
[12:35] <biscon> Nolt: and don't forget to add the new resolutions :)
[12:35] <neotard> vincenz:  ?  ati :)
[12:35] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:36] <biscon> Nolt: have you located and changed them in the config file?
[12:36] <neotard> vincenz:  fglrx = ati
[12:36] <vincenz> neotard: yeah but fglrx, and fglrx is buggy
[12:36] <ciaron> mikeo1: symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/X11/fonts
[12:36] <borntobewild> CarlFK:i said vmwaretools
[12:37] <stefg> mikeo1: forget my last comment... this was debian. in ubuntu the transcoded fonts seem to be in xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-base
[12:37] <neotard> vincenz:  idk, I'm using it right now on multiple heads w/ compiz and it's rock solid
[12:37] <vincenz> neotard: I don't get direct rendering on ati x300... everythng is laggy in X, even typing in here
[12:37] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:37] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:37] <mikeo1> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/X11/fonts/fonts' to `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts': File exists
[12:37] <mikeo1> think i did that last time when it gave my this problem
[12:37] <neotard> vincenz:  hmm, odd.  I have an "r300" (9700 pro) and they're working like a top
[12:37] <vincenz> neotard: besides I can't get xinerama to work at all :/  The most I get is some funky stuff on my laptop due to a wrong frequency or resolution most likely
[12:38] <mikeo1> after x wouldnt start when i installed kdebase
[12:38] <borntobewild> CarlFK:the answer /tmp is invalid.It must be a complete name o a binary file
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: mind pasting your xorg.conf?
[12:38] <biscon> mikeo1: hehe try giving the arguments in reverse order
[12:38] <ciaron> mikeo1: you have fonts twice
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  the fglrx drivers do NOT use xinerama
[12:38] <CarlFK> borntobewild: sorry - i missed it the first time.  I am wondering if you have it.  have you installed build-essential ?
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: oh
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: well mind pasting your xorg.conf?
[12:38] <borntobewild> no
[12:38] <vincenz> maybe I can get some info from that
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  you can get xinerama-like effects, but it's not xinerama in the terms of xorg
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  np, one sec
[12:39] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:40] <mikeo1> made hte link
[12:40] <CarlFK> borntobewild: thats the bigger problem.  $ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:40] <mikeo1> and still cant find default font fixed
[12:40] <ubuntu> hi
[12:40] <CarlFK> borntobewild:  that will get you make and the c compiler and all the other things you will need
[12:40] <mikeo1> what is supposed to be the correct fonts directory
[12:41] <neotard> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16791
[12:41] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:42] <borntobewild> CarlFK:then am i ready to install vmare-tools
[12:42] <jackal`inst> hiho (: is somebody so nice to explain a xubuntu newb, how to set up a network connection between xubuntu and winxp? (:
[12:42] <neotard> vincenz:  oops, hold on :D
[12:42] <Raito> Help! I am compiling a program from source, (HuGo) There is no ./configure so I went right ahead and typed 'make' This is the error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16790
[12:42] <Intelligi> I need help. Starting up in safe mode gave me weird errors.
[12:42] <CarlFK> borntobewild: if not you will be a whole lot closer ;)
[12:43] <mikeo1> whats the difference between xorg and X11R6
[12:43] <mikeo1> xorg is the newer one right?
[12:43] <vincenz> neotard: Driver "radeon"?
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  :P  yeah, was in a hurry
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16792
[12:43] <CarlFK> vincenz: you were right: " ATI-provided, binary-only, 'fglrx'
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  there you go, using fglrx.  for reference.. if you want to do it in radeon, that's how you do it :)
[12:44] <hctibtipots> how do you install java .rpm file???
[12:44] <neotard> hctibtipots:  don't :p
[12:44] <hctibtipots> lol
[12:44] <vincenz> kewl
[12:44] <Raito> hctibtipots: Theoretically you can use alien, but it is not reccomended
[12:44] <hctibtipots> how do you install jave then???
[12:44] <neotard> hctibtipots:  what jvm do you want?  they're all in the repository except for the beta jvm's
[12:44] <apokryphos> hctibtipots: check the FAQ
[12:44] <nbx909> !tell hctibtipots about java
[12:45] <nbx909> hrm
[12:45] <vincenz> neotard: never even heard of reference ...
[12:45] <nbx909> ubotu, tell hctibtipots about java
[12:45] <Raito> There ought to be a package for java, something like sun-java5-bin or something
[12:45] <vincenz> neotard: you don't set youR AGP stuff?
[12:45] <CarlFK> borntobewild: oddly enought I am installing vmware tools too - I think you are a step ahead of me
[12:45] <nbx909> well
[12:45] <nbx909> anyway
[12:45] <neotard> vincenz:  nah, no need.  you CAN if you're running into specific issues
[12:45] <Raito> Help! I am compiling a program from source, (HuGo) There is no ./configure so I went right ahead and typed 'make' This is the error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16790
[12:46] <vincenz> neotard: that's monoscreen I take it
[12:46] <tom7e> help!  i recently installed some new video drivers and am having problems.  I THINK my problem is that the resolution is set too low, because my monitor will not show anything below 1024.  i also can't see it via the television that is hooked up.  I can get into the safe mode command prompt though.  what file do i need to edit to adjust my resolution in gnome?  thanks.
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  no, that's dual-head xinerama-like support
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  using that configuration right now
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  have tvtime playing on the other screen atm :)
[12:46] <vincenz> neotard: but it only has one monitor declaration
[12:46] <nbx909> is there a list of all the packages that are included in ubuntu somewhere?
[12:46] <bryanl> so, the dapper install process won't start if you have an ati x300
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  uses dpms to figure the other one out.
[12:47] <vincenz> ah k
[12:47] <neotard> vincenz:  under device the "DestopSetup horizontal" line sets up the merged framebuffer for X
[12:47] <ciaron> is there a front end app for editing xorg.conf?
[12:47] <jackal`inst> how to search the local network with xubuntu? or ubuntu?
[12:48] <vincenz> neotard: well I don't get anything messed up now, but my CRT is still blank, just my laptop monitor
[12:48] <neotard> vincenz:  you can define meta modes like in the radeon driver if you want.  I just use 1280x1024 on both screens :)
[12:48] <goonies> ok so i have mounted my windows partition using the following command, mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows -t ntfs -r -o uid=goonies, and when i check the folders properties the owner is root, how does that work
[12:49] <tom7e> help!  i recently installed some new video drivers and am having problems.  I THINK my problem is that the resolution is set too low, because my monitor will not show anything below 1024.  i also can't see it via the television that is hooked up.  I can get into the safe mode command prompt though.  what file do i need to edit to adjust my resolution in gnome?  thanks.
[12:49] <neotard> vincenz:  if you can use the fglrx driver on a single screen successfully, you can do dual-head if the card supports it.  the DesktopSetup is the keyword that's important there
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I boot the live CD and repair my grub bootloader
[12:50] <stefg> !grub
[12:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:50] <jrib> goonies: I'm not sure, but I think you may need your actual uid, not just the username.  Run 'id' in a terminal
[12:50] <vincenz> neotard: this is my setup: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y7AfAu39.html
[12:50] <goonies> i did that as well, 1000
[12:50] <goonies> same results, i mean it gives me axx to the folder, but doesnt set my user as the owner
[12:51] <SemogM> Is it possible to install a GUI at Ubuntu server? Are there some package to do this at Ubuntu Server CD?
[12:52] <neotard> vincenz:  can your other monitor do 1400x1050? :)
[12:52] <jrib> goonies: you ran umount first and then ran the new mount command with the uid as a number?
[12:52] <stefg> Jack_Sparrow: actually you don't have to boot the Live-CD all the way. Having a grub boo prompt already is enough to reinstall it to the mbr of the harddis
[12:52] <goonies> jrib, yes
[12:52] <vincenz> neotard: most likely
[12:52] <vincenz> neotard: it's afanct f900p
[12:52] <vincenz> a fancy
[12:52] <goonies> i got it, what happened was i created the folder on my desktop as root
[12:52] <stickystyle> Im having a strange problem with a 6.06 server i just built, whenever i try to 'apt-get update' it hangs at "Waiting for headers".  It is connecting through an apt-proxy server on another 6.06 box, and all the other servers on the same vlan can update just fine, just not this new one.  I have reinstalled twice now and i have the same issue each time, anyone have any ideas?
[12:53] <goonies> thanks for the help again
[12:54] <tom7e> vincenz you have a radeon x300?
[12:54] <vincenz> tom7e: yep
[12:54] <tom7e> me too
[12:54] <vincenz> tom7e: you solved it?
[12:54] <neotard> vincenz:  might try setting a meta mode, like the first pastebin I gave you..  in the device section.
[12:54] <tom7e> what problem?
[12:54] <vincenz> neotard: heh, sadly some other paste overwrote it
[12:55] <compengi> why my lunix freezes sometimes
[12:55] <vincenz> tom7e: indirect rendering/ no multi screen
[12:55] <vincenz> not to mention all the API errors in fglrx
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  vincenz:  no expert, but if your
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  argh
[12:55] <tom7e> i have gotten it to sort of work in fedora
[12:55] <tom7e> I had a monitor and television hooked up through the video out.
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  Option		"MetaModes"		"1280x1024-1280x1024"
[12:56] <neotard> vincenz:  ok.. the resolutions to the left of the "-" represent individual screen sizes
[12:56] <vincenz> in Device
[12:56] <neotard> vincenz:  yeah
[12:57] <neotard> vincenz:  do you have fglrx enabled for single-screen?  if you run fglrxinfo from the command prompt does it mention ati?  I'm guessing if you're having slow screen refreshes that's a no.
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: heh this is actually funky, now that I have this desktopsetup, if I launch firefox the first time, it shows me this msall bar about 20 pixels wide on the right
[12:57] <neotard> vincenz:  everything hinges on at least having fglrx working :)
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: well erm, not unless I use a hacked libGL.1.2
[12:57] <tom7e> what i a good terminal based editor?  vi sucks for me.
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: otherwise I get a bunch of api  errors
[12:57] <Kyral> Emacs!
[12:57] <Kyral> or Nano....
[12:57] <neotard> tom7e:  I like Joe
[12:57] <vincenz> tom7e: ed
[12:57] <Kyral> lol
[12:58] <Kyral> I'd rather use cat to edit files than I would ed
[12:58] <neotard> tom7e:  it really is an editor :D  it's very wordstarish
[12:58] <tom7e> can i change the current resolution from within xorg.conf?
[12:58] <Kyral> cat >> filename << "EOF"
[12:58] <SemogM> sorry, but someone know if the Ubuntu Server iso from Ubuntu website has some GUI in their contents?
[12:58] <Kyral> and go until you type EOF
[12:58] <Kyral> SemogM: server == NO GUI!!!
[12:59] <vincenz> neotard: ERROR: DDX driver fingerprint mismatch: got 0xC20D27F9, but expected 0x32C4A39B
[12:59] <vincenz> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[12:59] <SemogM> could I install a GUI in the server?
[12:59] <Kyral> SemogM: of course
[12:59] <compengi> when i started to do programming on ubuntu my computer starts to freeze like i can't click on anything by mouse just by using the keyboard =/
[12:59] <Kyral> install your favorite WM and it will drag X with it
[12:59] <SemogM> ok, but how can i do this?
[12:59] <neotard> SemogM:  it's just ubuntu, you can install anything from any added repository
[12:59] <Kyral> SemogM: you know how to use Apt?
[01:00] <XtortioN> Hello does any one know the command to reconfegure sound card
[01:00] <XtortioN> ?
[01:00] <neotard> vincenz:  maybe someone knows something more about specifics with the driver.  tbh, I had no issues with the binary driver howto under dapper (important to remember to restart after install).  multihead works like I have it setup.
[01:00] <SemogM> [Kyral] : no
[01:01] <Kyral> SemogM: open a terminal and do "man apt-get" :P
[01:01] <neotard> vincenz:  if you have fglrx setup though, fglrxinfo should spew out the proper ati info
[01:01] <SemogM> [Kyral] : ok, ill try this
[01:01] <vincenz> neotard: I get driver inconsistencies
[01:01] <bamba> cant get any help on the FX channel, does any one know another good channelf for firefox issues ?
[01:01] <vincenz> neotard: either way, fglrx driver has bugs in libGL.so.1.2
[01:01] <eXistenZ> How can I set ubuntu's locale in UTF-8?
[01:02] <vincenz> neotard: a bunch of API errors
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  it has to work on a single screen before you can even begin to think about multi-head though.
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  it overwrites it
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  ati drivers have their own version of the gl library
[01:02] <vincenz> neotard: oh?
[01:02] <tom7e> in xorg.conf does "depth" mean number of colors?
[01:02] <XtortioN> Does any one know the cmd to reconfigure alsa, some thing like alsaconf
[01:02] <XtortioN> ?
[01:03] <vincenz> neotard: where do I get it?
[01:03] <neotard> vincenz:  it's part of the install :)
[01:03] <vincenz> neotard: odd
[01:03] <maddy> tom7e, yeah think so like 16 bit 24 32 bit etc
[01:03] <neotard> XtortioN:  what do you mean?
[01:03] <tom7e> finally, how do i save in nano?
[01:03] <goonies> ctrl + x
[01:04] <tom7e> that's exit
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto ati
[01:04] <maddy> +s
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto ati
[01:04] <stefg> ctrl o
[01:04] <neotard> tom7e:  think it says "WriteOut" on the bottom of the screen
[01:04] <goonies> thats how i save =P
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <tom7e> ohh, i see
[01:04] <XtortioN> neotard, i just changed sound cards and im having problems geting my new sound card to work with some programs is there a way i can reconfure?
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto binarydriver
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto binarydriver
[01:04] <goonies> asks me if i want to save b4 i exit =]
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto atibinarydriver
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto atibinarydriver
[01:04] <tom7e> !ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <neotard> XtortioN:  so it works for some and not others?
[01:04] <XtortioN> yea
[01:04] <vincenz> neotard: I'm nearly 100% certain I followed the instructions on that page, forgot the link now
[01:05] <XtortioN> neotard, i beleave its alsa
[01:05] <stefg> !ati >tom7e
[01:05] <tom7e> ok
[01:05] <tom7e> !ati
[01:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:05] <neotard> XtortioN:  so what programs have issues?
[01:05] <XtortioN> wine
[01:05] <vincenz> Unfortunately OpenGL seems to be broken for R200 cards (everything below Radeon 9500) in this driver version. This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with libGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8).
[01:05] <XtortioN> and other music apps
[01:06] <neotard> XtortioN:  in xmms for example, you can configure the sound device in your options.
[01:07] <neotard> XtortioN:  it sounds like it's working is what I'm saying.  maybe it's more of an application specific issue :)  like it's pointing to an OSS device and needs to be pointed to your alsa device now
[01:07] <XtortioN> neotard, perhaps.
[01:08] <XtortioN> neotard, you ever here about alsa conf
[01:08] <neotard> XtortioN:  still tinkering with sound myself :)  have multiple sound cards, and Linux definitely doesn't play nicely with it all
[01:08] <vincenz> damn screen blackened and pc froze
[01:09] <XtortioN> lol
[01:09] <Raito> Does anyone know what this error is (I am compiling a program from source) >	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16793
[01:09] <jolmash> why if I compile LAME, it only create mlame, and not lame?
[01:10] <Tom7e> vincente, my second screen is working now
[01:10] <vincenz> Tom7e: cool
[01:10] <vincenz> Tom7e: paste your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <Tom7e> sure
[01:11] <Tom7e> all i did was replace 'ati' with 'fglrx', i'll paste it though.
[01:11] <XtortioN> neotard, this is what i get:
[01:11] <XtortioN> stuart@stuart-d0:~$ winecfg
[01:11] <XtortioN> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[01:11] <XtortioN> Creating link /home/stuart/.kde/socket-stuart-d0.
[01:11] <XtortioN> can't create mcop directory
[01:11] <zukalk> hey, i'd like to burn several albums with i've ripped to mp3 into one cd. which app should i use to burn mp3 CDs?
[01:11] <Tom7e> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16794
[01:12] <vincenz> Tom7e: you had the x300?
[01:12] <Tom7e> vincenz:  radeon x300 SE to be exact.
[01:12] <Jaynyls> i need some help
[01:12] <Jaynyls> im a new ubuntu user
[01:12] <XtortioN> i think its time to format
[01:13] <XtortioN> ;/
[01:13] <an0malist> Hey can someone help me find the file  libmp3lame.so ???
[01:13] <lophyte> Jaynyls: what's up?
[01:13] <Jaynyls> i'm running it on a IBM T42 notebook. i'm seeing some graphic corruption here and there.
[01:13] <NickGarvey> an0malist: "cd /"
[01:13] <NickGarvey> an0malist: "sudo find -name libmp3lame.so"
[01:13] <Tom7e> vincenz:  it isn't perfect yet, though.  i haven't tried 3d graphics yet
[01:14] <Jaynyls> help with that?
[01:14] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:14] <Tom7e> but i don't game under *nix anyways
[01:14] <lophyte> Jaynyls: sorry, I've never run ubuntu on a laptop so I'm not sure
[01:14] <Savage> what does that mean?
[01:14] <Jaynyls> durn.
[01:14] <Jaynyls> thanks anyway lophyte
[01:14] <vincenz> Tom7e: type "fglrxinfo
[01:14] <lophyte> np
[01:14] <vincenz> in console
[01:14] <Tom7e> ok
[01:14] <an0malist> NickGarvey: I've tried that.. not on my hard drive.. where can I find it online?
[01:15] <Tom7e> also, my second screen is my TV and it doesn't fit the screen perfectly, but that can be worked on
[01:15] <NickGarvey> an0malist: um, apt-get install lame?
[01:15] <Tom7e> want me to pastebin that vincenz?
[01:15] <an0malist> ok :)
[01:15] <vincenz> Tom7e: sure
[01:15] <OffHand> does anyone know why my mounted fat32 drive has funky characters in the name?
[01:15] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > an0malist
[01:15] <an0malist> NickGarvey: thanks, im a super newb lol
[01:16] <NickGarvey> :)
[01:16] <Tom7e> vincenz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16795
[01:16] <vincenz> heh
[01:16] <vincenz> odd
[01:16] <vincenz> it just doesn't like me I guess
[01:16] <vincenz> Tom7e: and this is dapper?
[01:16] <vincenz> and not breezy
[01:16] <Tom7e> i'm not sure
[01:17] <Tom7e> very new to ubuntu, previously a fedora user
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: most recent version?
[01:17] <Jaynyls> can Windows users with Office read my docs created in OpenOffice?
[01:17] <Tom7e> NickGarvey:  ?  i don't understand your question?
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: when saving, pick a .doc format not .odt
[01:17] <vincenz> brb
[01:17] <vincenz> rebooting
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: running the most recent ubuntu?
[01:17] <Tom7e> ok, good luck
[01:18] <Tom7e> NickGarvey:  i assume, unless the webpage hasn't been updated!!  i downloaded a few days ago.
[01:18] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: then its dapper
[01:18] <Jaynyls> ohhhh.
[01:18] <Tom7e> what is the diff?
[01:18] <Jaynyls> so if i save as a doc it's just as if i created it with Microsoft Office?
[01:18] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: ideally, unless you are doing some amazingly weird formatting
[01:19] <Jaynyls> i see.
[01:19] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys in both movie player and in VLC my subs starts to early! they skip the first 3 lines and then starts just as the movie starts. maybe 2 minutes to early..??
[01:19] <qwon> hi i'm getting "Error opening terminal: bterm" when typing grub> setup hd0
[01:19] <qwon> how do i fix it?
[01:19] <Jaynyls> last question. what's another noob Linux distro for me to try?
[01:19] <Intelligi> I am getting some kind of weird X Server error.
[01:19] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: I like suse..
[01:19] <Intelligi> I don't know what is wrong.
[01:19] <Ackeubu_> Is there an app changing the time in a subtitles file? srt?
[01:19] <Tom7e> Jaynyls:  Fedora is newbie friendy
[01:19] <Intelligi> The Live CD won't work. I can only get the command prompt by trying to use the safe mode.
[01:19] <lophyte> !wine
[01:19] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:20] <mikeo1> where is default font fixed
[01:20] <Intelligi> Could it have anything to do with the fact I have two VGA devices?
[01:20] <mikeo1> Fatal server error:
[01:20] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:20] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:20] <mikeo1> how can i get xorg to find default font fixed
[01:20] <Savage> why does it make me hit enter when i cntrl v damnit
[01:22] <randomdouche> hi
[01:22] <rjw> hi there. was wondering if anyone had any familiarty with raid controllers.
[01:22] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:22] <Savage> What does this mean?
[01:22] <vincenz> Re
[01:22] <jme> mikeo1: see http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages
[01:23] <vincenz> Re
[01:23] <vincenz> damn, still an issue with fglrxinfo
[01:23] <vincenz> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint
[01:23] <vincenz> a bunch of those
[01:24] <rjw> specifically, I have an integrated SiI chipset on my MB that seems to cause a kernel lockup on boot... so I was considering getting a new controller (I've tried everything to get it to work), bit am not sure what card is best.
[01:24] <Tommy> HELP!
[01:24] <Tommy> okay
[01:24] <Tommy> i have a problem
[01:24] <stefg> !enter
[01:24] <numist> clearly
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:24] <numist> your problems may not be addressable by this channel
[01:24] <Tommy> i dont know what the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386
[01:25] <Tommy> can someone help?
[01:25] <dmb> any of you know if in xchat, its possible to have 2 diferent nicknames on two seperate servers?
[01:25] <Tommy> and i am sorry about the enter, i am used to messenger, i dont think so dmb
[01:25] <jme> not much: linux-386 depends on linux-image-386
[01:25] <jme> really, not much difference
[01:25] <jme> dmb: yes, it's possible
[01:25] <jolmash> hello all, can someone help on installing PHP5 as cgi on apache2 with PHP4 as module?
[01:25] <Matrikz> Tommy: you can open xchat more than once
[01:26] <an0malist> hey i installed lame via apt-get and it finished, but still no libmp3lame.so file found anywhere?
[01:26] <Matrikz> also, what version of xchat do you have?
[01:26] <jme> in the Server List, uncheck the box saying "Use global server info"
[01:26] <megatronnn> newb question: how can i run terminal as root?
[01:26] <rjw> raid controller recommendations, anyone?
[01:26] <jme> actually, it's possible within one instance of X-Chat
[01:26] <Matrikz> yes it is
[01:26] <Tommy> okay, which one should i install for a home computer than?
[01:26] <Matrikz> but i know the old version of xchat had a connect with new tab button
[01:26] <jme> megatronnn: 'sudo gnome-terminal'
[01:26] <squiggly> yes dmb
[01:27] <bimberi> Tommy: linux-386 has the linux-restricted-modules package as a dependency
[01:27] <mcphail> Tommy: use the 686 image
[01:27] <jme> try not to do anything dumb!
[01:27] <stefg> megatronnn: sudo -s will give you a root-shell in an already open terminal
[01:27] <Tommy> ok, thank you very much
[01:27] <squiggly> look for the 'use global information' checkbox
[01:27] <squiggly> uncheck it and you can specify different nicks
[01:27] <bimberi> Tommy: you get the same kernel with both,  most will install linux-386
[01:27] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:27] <Tommy> uhhgg, so two ppl are telling me different ones
[01:27] <megatronnn> @jme:  thanks man!
[01:27] <dmb> jme: how?
[01:27] <squiggly> dmb: look for the 'use global information' checkbox
[01:28] <jme> like I said
[01:28] <jme> in the Server List, uncheck the box saying "Use global server info"
[01:28] <squiggly> dmb: uncheck it and you can specify different nicks
[01:28] <Tommy> okay, i'll just go with the linux-368
[01:28] <Tommy> okay?
[01:28] <rjw> anyone know anyone who can help me with my raid controller question? :p
[01:28] <dmb> jme: oh, sorry, guess i missed that :)
[01:28] <bimberi> Tommy: yep, except it's 86 :P
[01:29] <mcphail> Tommy: unless your computer is _very_ old, use a 686 kernel
[01:29] <Tommy> lol, mine says 386
[01:29] <Tommy> i have 5.10
[01:29] <vilefridge> Does anyone here have experience troubleshooting no-audio issues?
[01:29] <bioticpro> hey yall, Im looking to make my middle mouse wheel click, be mapped to a keyboard action for all programs, including desktop, how would I do this?
[01:29] <mcphail> Tommy: 386 is the default install (which works on most computers). The i686 kernel will be much zippier
[01:30] <bryanl> i want to share my ubuntu printer to a mac and a windows box.... whats the best soluation?
[01:30] <Tommy> i have no idea what to do, lol
[01:30] <Matrikz> 386 is for older pcs
[01:30] <Matrikz> 686 is if you have a newer pc
[01:30] <Matrikz> less than 2 years old i'd say
[01:30] <Tommy> i'm just gonna go with 386, my pc is about 4 years old
[01:30] <Tommy> that's my other one
[01:30] <Matrikz> if you are unsure just install the 386
[01:30] <Tommy> i am on less than year right now
[01:30] <mcphail> Tommy: if your computer is a pentiumII or newer use the 686
[01:30] <Tommy> okay
[01:30] <bryanl> 686 is really old
[01:30] <Tommy> thanks
[01:30] <bryanl> think about it...
[01:30] <bryanl> the p2 was a 686
[01:30] <vilefridge> Celerons are 686 capable as well I believe
[01:31] <Matrikz> but it's not just the cpu
[01:31] <rjw> sata ii raid controller recommendations, anyone? Am I totally in the wrong channel here?
[01:31] <Matrikz> it's all the componants
[01:31] <Tommy> i have no idea what to do so i am going with 386
[01:31] <Matrikz> 686 will install just like 386
[01:31] <bryanl> Matrikz: no, i actually believe you are mistaken...
[01:31] <bryanl> wow... has #ubuntu sunken this low?
[01:31] <ggilbert_> tommy, if your computer is only 4 years old, then the 686 will be fine.
[01:31] <mcphail> Tommy: you won't go wrong with the 386, but Ubuntu will run smoother with the 686 kernel.
[01:32] <Draconicus> I have a large selection of problems right now. I think I'll start with the most urgent one.
[01:32] <Tommy> ok
[01:32] <Tommy> brv
[01:32] <Tommy> brb*
[01:32] <lasindi_> Hi all, I just tried to install glib2.0-dev for a program I'm writing, and I got an error message telling me: "Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed", and I don't really understand what this means. Is there a way to fix it so I can install this library?
[01:32] <rjw> I have never found being ignored so helpful. I guess I'll stick to windows, where my hardware just works.
[01:32] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:32] <ggilbert_> I was under the impression that the only difference was what cpu the packages were tuned for. So either package would work
[01:33] <NickGarvey> !patience > rjw
[01:33] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:33] <OPENports> hi
[01:33] <jme> !patience
[01:33] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[01:33] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:33] <jme> heh
[01:34] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:34] <Draconicus> Nautilus has broken. It has simply stopped working correctly.  I'm tempted to reboot at this point, but that's something I generally don't do.
[01:34] <bryanl> i'm actually suprised that folks would thank that they *have* to be helped in #ubuntu
[01:34] <mikeo1> ERROR could not open default font
[01:34] <J-_Away> is it worth it to download ubuntu 6.06, or should i just reinstall breezy badger? i screwed up breezy by installing a system update...
[01:34] <mikeo1> 'fixed'
[01:34] <NickGarvey> bryanl: go away you are annoying
[01:34] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: How long would it take you to download it?
[01:34] <megatronnn> has anyone had success getting wine to install from source?
[01:34] <jme> lasindi_: that's likely a problem with the package
[01:34] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:34] <NickGarvey> bryanl: go troll somewhere else
[01:34] <Matrikz> OPENports: give someone a chance
[01:35] <bryanl> NickGarvey: how am i annoying? i
[01:35] <bryanl> boo nick
[01:35] <OPENports> sorry
[01:35] <Tommy> mcphail: i only have 3 options for kernels, all 3 are 386
[01:35] <Matrikz> therewere others here before you asking for help
[01:35] <bryanl> i'm not trolling
[01:35] <NickGarvey> /ignore bryanl
[01:35] <jme> lasindi_: basically, it wants a lower version of libglib than you have, so it won't install
[01:35] <bryanl> thanks nick
[01:35] <J-_Away> already 10% done within 10 mins
[01:35] <Tom7e> how do I run file browser from the terminal?  what is it's command?
[01:35] <jme> lasindi_: I believe there's a way to force installation anyway, and it might work
[01:35] <OPENports> Matrikz:sorry
[01:35] <jme> Tom7e: nautilus&
[01:35] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: Dapper is a nice upgrade from breezy, but unless it's a fairly quick download for you, you might as well just install breezy and use the package manager to upgrade.
[01:35] <lecaros> !seen mhz
[01:35] <ubotu> I last saw mhz (n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz) 19h 55m ago, changing nicks
[01:35] <Matrikz> no need to appologize
[01:36] <Matrikz> just be patient
[01:36] <bryanl> Tom7e:  you could start with file:///
[01:36] <J-_Away> i tried the package manager upgrade and it screwed up my system
[01:36] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: Though downloading the cd might end up being faster if you ever want to reinstall on another computer.
[01:36] <Tommy> u guys, u told me that 686 would work but i only hav 3 kernels to choose from, and all 3 are 386
[01:36] <Matrikz> Tommy: that's because you downloaded the 386 iso
[01:37] <lasindi_> jme: ok, well, my real goal is to install libsdl1.2-dev, which apparently depends indirectly on libglib2.0-dev. Do you think I should force the libglib package or something else?
[01:37] <bryanl> tommy: you could always "sudo apt-get install linux-686"
[01:37] <J-_Away> yeah might as well just download the new one, probably better security/system resources since my other computer is crappy =)
[01:37] <Tommy> Matrikz, i got it from a store, so which one should i download?
[01:38] <jme> lasindi_: to be honest, I have no idea what will work, but I'd try forcing libglib
[01:38] <Matrikz> do what bryanl said
[01:38] <jme> you can remove it if it breaks
[01:38] <Tommy> what did bryanl say? lol, i blocked him
[01:38] <mikeo1> FINALLY FIXED DEFAULT FONT 'FIXED'!!!!!!!!  Sorry.  It has simply stopped working correctly.  I'm tempted to reboot at this point, but that's something I generally don't do.
[01:42] <apokryphos> jme: use what I said, it's the exact method it would use to stop X on a shutdown
[01:42] <jme> ok
[01:42] <ggilbert_> Though after a bad experience on sunos, I don't recommend people get used to the killall command :p
[01:43] <jme> Draconius: tried reinstalling nautilus?
[01:43] <Draconicus> jme: It's been running fine and hasn't changed. Why should I reinstall it now?
[01:43] <mcphail> ggilbert_: killall sucks on solaris
[01:43] <alexicon> hi again guys
[01:43] <vir--> oh yeah sorry ;)
[01:43] <Tommy> Matrikz
[01:43] <Matrikz> yes?
[01:43] <Tommy> i sent a message to u
[01:43] <jme> apokryphos: could you explain why stopping gdm also quits xserver?
[01:43] <ggilbert_> mcphail: Yeah. I learned that the hard way
[01:43] <Tommy> in a priv chatroom
[01:44] <Matrikz> didnt get it
[01:44] <Tommy> ok
[01:44] <Tommy> *tries again*
[01:44] <alexicon> yesterday i updated from hoary to dapper and now my NIC is gone D:
[01:44] <jvai> hey uall, can the aol dialer work w/ ubuntu?
[01:44] <apokryphos> jme: because GDM is what starts/runs/manages the X-server
[01:44] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools
[01:44] <alexicon> can anyone help me get eth0 back
[01:44] <apokryphos> jme: it's the GNOME display manager
[01:44] <bryanl> ggilbert_: killall -9 can be useful..
[01:44] <jme> oh, alright
[01:44] <jvai> the aol dialer from linspire
[01:44] <alexicon> i think its the kernel module thats gone
[01:44] <jme> I didn't realize GDM ran X - I thought it was the other way around
[01:44] <Tommy> nvm
[01:44] <Tommy> i cant do it
[01:44] <Matrikz> do what?
[01:44] <Tommy> because priv messages are currently blocked
[01:44] <Tommy> due to spam
[01:45] <Draconicus> Ugh. This channel is a mess! I'm just going to reboot the damned thing.
[01:45] <jme> Draconicus: well, if it's broken...
[01:45] <sysdoc> Anyone know the Java runtime package name for FX?
[01:45] <alexicon> anyone else have dapper destroy their NIC?
[01:45] <ggilbert_> bryanl, Yeah. Just a bad experience with an OS where killall works a bit more literally
[01:45] <Matrikz> ahh
[01:45] <Matrikz> type in /msg Matrikz msg
[01:45] <bryanl> ggilbert_: ah... you did it on a sun box, didn't you?
[01:45] <apokryphos> jme: well, yes and no. The graphical part of GDM requires X to start, but GDM calls X to start.
[01:45] <jme> what, it kills everything?
[01:45] <alexicon> !NIC >alexicon
[01:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about NIC
[01:45] <ggilbert_> bryanl: Yup. :p
[01:45] <bryanl> jme: oh yeah
[01:45] <Tommy> doesnt work
[01:45] <Tommy> due to spam
[01:45] <Matrikz> k
[01:45] <alexicon> !eth0 >alexicon
[01:45] <OPENports> Matrikz:sorry
[01:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about eth0
[01:45] <alexicon> ...
[01:45] <apokryphos> jme: trust me, that's the proper way to do it.
[01:45] <Tommy> well, here is my message
[01:46] <Matrikz> why are you appologizing to me OPENports ?
[01:46] <jme> ok
[01:46] <Tommy> i have tried installing base system twice
[01:46] <J-_Away> is there a gui for the 6.06 server?
[01:46] <alexicon> !modprobe >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe
[01:46] <alexicon> dkfjalsdjfla
[01:46] <OPENports> ""will apache host .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:46] <ggilbert_> bryanl: "Where did the nfs server just go?"
[01:46] <Tommy> the first time, i didnt even get to the kernel screen
[01:46] <bryanl> ggilbert_:  lol
[01:46] <jme> darn you, ubotu
[01:46] <Matrikz> OPENports: it should
[01:46] <ggilbert_> Several good lessons came out of that day.
[01:46] <alexicon> !networking >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[01:46] <Tommy> the second time i got there, and chose a kernel, then it did it again
[01:46] <jme> !seen ubotu
[01:46] <Matrikz> Tommy: are you running from the live cd?
[01:46] <Tommy> so what should i do?
[01:46] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[01:46] <alexicon> !lsmod >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about lsmod
[01:46] <alexicon> ffs
[01:46] <Draconicus> OPENports: Ah. You fixed it, sort of! Of course it will. Apache will host any kind of file.
[01:46] <Matrikz> or how are you trying to compile the kernel?
[01:46] <jme> !ffs
[01:46] <Tommy> !seen ubotu
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about ffs
[01:46] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[01:47] <jvai> i have a friend who's on xp, & it's acting up, i want to install ubuntu on it, but she only has dial up thru aol, i want to know if the aol dialer from linspire work on the pc..
[01:47] <jme> !hello
[01:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[01:47] <kbrooks> alexicon: language
[01:47] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:47] <OPENports> Matrikz:do you mind helping me?
[01:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:47] <Matrikz> if i can i will
[01:47] <sysdoc> !java
[01:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:47] <Tommy> Matrikz: did you get my message?
[01:47] <Matrikz> yea i seen
[01:47] <alexicon> !network device >alexicon
[01:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about network device
[01:47] <Tommy> from this chatroom
[01:47] <jme> jvai: Linspire packages are .debs, so it might work in principle
[01:47] <Matrikz> how are you trying to compile the kernel?
[01:48] <alexicon> !dapper lost nic device
[01:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper lost nic device
[01:48] <kbrooks> alexicon: ask for help
[01:48] <Tommy> Matrikz: how am i trying to compile it? i dunno, i popped in the disk
[01:48] <Tommy> lol
[01:48] <Matrikz> are you running off of the live cd or do you have ubuntu installed to the hard drive?
[01:48] <jme> ok, so we've established ubotu isn't that bright
[01:48] <Matrikz> oh so you are running from the live cd
[01:48] <apokryphos> alexicon: abusing the bot is a quick way to get banned.
[01:48] <jvai> hmmm, i book mark'd a page w/ the tgz file, i may give it a shot..
[01:48] <kbrooks> alexicon: stop abusing the bot
[01:48] <mwe> what is responsible for the progress bar late in the boot when gdm is starting?
[01:48] <Matrikz> just double click on the install icon
[01:48] <Matrikz> on the desktop
[01:48] <jme> !abuse
[01:48] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[01:48] <jvai> thnx @ jme
[01:48] <an0malist> Can someone send me libmp3lame.so?  I ran apt-get and installed Lame but the file doesn't show up anywhere
[01:48] <NickGarvey> an0malist: search for lame in synaptic
[01:49] <Tommy> Matrikz: i put in the install CD that i got from a store
[01:49] <rpedro> an0malist: one sec, please
[01:49] <jme> jvai: Linspire is known for making their packages difficult to find, despite them being GPL, so make sure you can get it
[01:49] <bryanl> i wish that "Printers" in gnome had an option to let you share a printer over ipp... or even configure it in samba
[01:49] <an0malist> rpedro: ok
[01:49] <Tommy> Matrikz: and i got up to base system, and got an error, so i tried again, and i chose a kernel and got the error again
[01:49] <kbrooks> jme: there will be a freespire
[01:49] <jme> eh, should just use ubuntu!
[01:49] <alexicon> yesterday i updated from hoary to dapper, and now i have no eth0 device. any ideas
[01:50] <jvai> http://www.linspire.com/lindows_news_pressreleases_archives.php?id=143
[01:50] <Matrikz> how big is your hard drive Tommy ?
[01:50] <F0LL0W3R> is there any Gui donwload progrman in ubuntu ?
[01:50] <Tommy> 33.8 GB
[01:50] <OPENports> Matrikz:do you mind helping me?
[01:50] <Matrikz> OPENports: give me a minute please
[01:50] <LKRaider> F0LL0W3R: gwget
[01:50] <stefg> !rar
[01:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:50] <Tommy> Matrikz: at least that is what ubuntu says
[01:50] <jvai> that's what i found @ jme, one of the links on there offered the file
[01:50] <jme> F0LL0W3R: wget sort of has a gui!
[01:50] <Matrikz> did you run qtpartion?
[01:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to repair my grub using the Ubots instructions, It says to boot the cd and at the splash screen boot:... I never get to a boot prompt...
[01:50] <jme> erm, kinda
[01:50] <Draconicus> Frostwire doesn't see the Sun JRE where it's supposed to be installed. Why is this?
[01:50] <rpedro> an0malist: sorry, are you trying to use audacity's export to mp3 function?
[01:50] <Matrikz> Tommy: join #linuxbeginner
[01:50] <Tommy> Matrikz: Umm...yes, i chose the first option
[01:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> It just boots the live cd
[01:51] <Tommy> ok
[01:51] <F0LL0W3R> jme how wget get Gui !
[01:51] <Tommy> i am there
[01:51] <an0malist> rpedro: Yes
[01:51] <OPENports> can anyone help
[01:51] <Tommy> and exiting this room
[01:51] <rpedro> rpedro: I was going to point to a bug report I made, maybe it helps
[01:51] <jme> well, it doesn't really have a gui - but it has a progress bar!
[01:51] <rpedro> an0malist: oh ok
[01:51] <F0LL0W3R> LKRaider thx downloadin in progress :)
[01:51] <jvai> sh may b in luk, since the file is a DEB, she got a contract w/ aol, thru the free coasters :/
[01:51] <sysdoc> !repos
[01:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:51] <OPENports> is solaris 10 better than ubuntu?
[01:52] <Draconicus> There are monkeys using Linux. the end is near.
[01:52] <rpedro> an0malist: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/51063  , please confirm the bug if you can, and you have a launchpad account
[01:52] <snoops> OPENports depends on your intended purpose..
[01:52] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools,is there a way to do that?
[01:52] <raina> /part
[01:53] <OPENports> i herd solaris kicks ubuntu in the butt
[01:53] <graham> spit
[01:53] <alexicon> solaris is hideous
[01:53] <jme> OPENports: well, it's different
[01:53] <jme> it's not really targeted at desktops
[01:53] <alexicon> its only slightly useful as a multiuser server
[01:53] <alexicon> even then it usually isnt worth the fight
[01:53] <alexicon> get something with decent package management
[01:53] <OPENports> why do companies love it so much i agree it sux
[01:54] <alexicon> man i hate solaris now
[01:54] <jme> well, it's SysV, and it's well-supported
[01:54] <Draconicus> OPENports: You're quick to switch sides.
[01:54] <jme> so there are decent business reasons to use it
[01:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to repair my grub using the Ubots instructions, It says to boot the cd and at the splash screen boot:   ... I never get to a boot: prompt using the live cd
[01:54] <alexicon> only things good about it are zones and dtrace
[01:54] <OPENports> i said what i herd not what i believe
[01:54] <alexicon> otherwise id use linux
[01:54] <mwe> how do you make the progress bar go away while gdm is running?
[01:54] <jme> poor choice for a personal system, of course
[01:55] <jme> mwe: what progress bar?
[01:55] <jme> in GNOME Display Manager?
[01:55] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[01:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:55] <OPENports> whtats the advantages for a business?
[01:55] <Draconicus> All the serious problems are being ignored, while all the newbies are getting help. I ask questions whose answers aren't documented elsewhere. I hate to beg for attention, but this is getting ridiculous. :\
[01:55] <mwe> jme: I see a buggy ugly progress bar while gdm is starting up
[01:55] <alexicon> so no one here knows why dapper destroys nic devices??
[01:55] <mwe> jme: well two actually
[01:56] <graham> try man grub
[01:56] <vir--> hm.. i've checked some in the forum and the installguide now.. though nothing really cover what i'm going to do.. (install from iso) is there any way to launch the installer? if i just boot up with with the normal debianfloppyimages.. and mount the iso.. is there any way to manually launch the installer from that?
[01:56] <PacketScan> Draconicus, What is your problem?
[01:56] <jme> OPENports: sysadmins understand more traditional systems like Solaris better, and Sun supports a lot of installations
[01:56] <stefg> most common desktop hardware simply won't run with slowlaris... forget about TV-Cards or even somewhat exotic soundcards... DId i mention printers?
[01:56] <mwe> jme: looks like a bug or sth that's supposed to work with uspash or something
[01:56] <cArNaGe``> http://www.zippyvideos.com/9870693455451936/doopower/*islednxs
[01:56] <OPENports> jma:thanks
[01:56] <cArNaGe``> awesome stuff
[01:56] <jme> yeah, I guess I haven't seen that, mwe
[01:57] <cArNaGe``> http://www.zippyvideos.com/9870693455451936/doopower/*islednxs  check it out
[01:57] <ggilbert_> Draconicus: They generally have easier questions to answer. :)
[01:57] <mwe> jme: well good for you. pray you wont :)
[01:57] <Draconicus> PacketScan: I have two. Which would you rather cover? Nautilus being retarded, or Java not working after Sun JRE was installed from the multiverse repository?
[01:57] <OPENports> i was looking for a tech job and this job in texas was paying 70g for solaris knowledge, is it like debian or what? anyone please answer thank u!
[01:58] <Tommy> Matrikz
[01:58] <Tommy> what is the room again?
[01:58] <Tommy> i accidently closed it
[01:58] <Matrikz> #linuxbeginner
[01:58] <Tommy> ok
[01:58] <neotard> OPENports:  sure, it's unixy :p
[01:58] <mjr> OPENports, it's like debian in only the way that both are *nix-like operating systems, but you apparently shouldn't apply
[01:58] <jme> yeah, you probably won't be able to bluff your way into that!
[01:58] <PacketScan> Draconicus, First Nautilus is always buggy we can work on that. , Java  runtime?  is yes should be installed directly from sun.
[01:59] <PacketScan> Draconicus, what are the issues you are having with nautilus
[01:59] <OPENports> mjr: what bro?
[01:59] <jme> OPENports: they're likely looking for someone with certification and years of administering Solaris systems for hundreds of users
[02:00] <neotard> OPENports:  I think his point was that it's like price.. if you have to ask, you shouldn't bother.
[02:00] <docko> can anyone tell me how to create certificates with openssl?
[02:00] <jme> pretty much, yeah
[02:00] <jme> get an IT cert if you want to do that kind of thing
[02:00] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Well, it was running quite happily for a couple weeks, now. I played with GTK-Gnutella and mplayer off and on during this time.  This, of course, means that I have no desktop as well.
[02:00] <OPENports> screw certifications
[02:00] <bioticpro> How do you extract .ace files in linux?
[02:01] <jme> bioticpro: I think there's an unace utility in the repository
[02:01] <jrib> !ace
[02:01] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hda7 nomce psmouse.proto=imps quiet splash=verbose vga=791
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd.mepis
[02:01] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools,is there a way to do that?
[02:01] <jme> oh, whaddya know
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to edit a brub boot floppy.  My drive is C XP, D Fat32, then a swap partition, then Ubuntu, and another fat32.  What should my grub look like
[02:01] <bioticpro> jrib: thx
[02:01] <snoops> borntobewild why would vmware tools have anything to do with setting screen resolution? Have you installed drivers for your graphics card?
[02:01] <jrib> bioticpro: you may need unace from universe installed for file-roller to work, not sure
[02:02] <PacketScan> Draconicus, Have you cleared your Nautlius Temp files yet?
[02:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can anyone tell me the default 6.06 kernal number?
[02:02] <knoppix_> i screwed my laptop, now cannot even boot windows on my laptop.... can u tell me how to rectify this issue with knoppix live cd...
[02:02] <PacketScan> ~/home/user/.nautlius/
[02:02] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Oh.. No, I haven't. Where are they stored? Is there a command or do I have to wipe the directory with rm -r >
[02:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[02:02] <Draconicus> ?*
[02:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:02] <graham> borntobewild, what distro you running
[02:03] <PacketScan> Draconicus, right
[02:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Knoppix, did you get that..
[02:03] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Um... That was multiple choice... :P
[02:03] <Tom7e> can anyone tell me the desktop environment shown in this picture:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=41685&file1=41685-1.jpg&file2=41685-2.jpg&file3=&name=gray
[02:04] <jme> Tom7e: GNOME
[02:04] <borntobewild> graham 6.06
[02:04] <graham> ubuntu? try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[02:04] <Tom7e> it is ?  wasn't the thing at the bottom of the picture?
[02:05] <t4ken> hey
[02:05] <nickwebcouk> sily question - whats the terminal command to show the desktop (minimise windows) im trying to set up win key+m in xbinds..
[02:05] <jme> well, it's a heavily customized GNOME
[02:05] <graham> it will use a prog called debconf to reset your x11 config file
[02:05] <jme> I have no idea what that app is
[02:05] <PacketScan> Draconicus, what's your username?
[02:05] <Draconicus> PacketScan: glitch
[02:05] <an0malist> rpedro: that worked! thanks man
[02:06] <PacketScan> "rm -rf /home/glitch/.nautilus"
[02:06] <Intellig1> Finally got the Live CD working...
[02:06] <Intellig1> I had to remove a secondary graphics card.
[02:06] <graham> once done you will have to restart x - <ctl><alt><backspace>
[02:06] <GreySim> Tom7e, it looks kinda like gimme.
[02:06] <ggilbert_> The bar at the bottom of the window is gimmie
[02:06] <ggilbert_> oh GreySim beat me to it :p
[02:07] <nickwebcouk> anyone?
[02:07] <Tom7e> what is gimmie?  just a load bar?
[02:07] <graham> borntobewild, once done you will have to restart x - <ctl><alt><backspace>
[02:07] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Well, gee, you could have just told me they were in .nautilus. I know my way around. Thanks for the help, though. :)
[02:07] <ggilbert_> Tom7e: there's a bit more to it
[02:07] <ggilbert_> http://www.beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/
[02:07] <nickwebcouk> gimmie looks bnice - mac osx in style-type. :P
[02:07] <Tom7e> thanks
[02:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can anyone tell me the default 6.06 kernal number?
[02:07] <borntobewild> graham: ok now i'm restarting
[02:07] <graham> good luck
[02:08] <F0LL0W3R> heey  i hv mounted a partition by this way /mnt/c n when made downloadin files into the mounted partition it gives me erro message that could be frm the permissions ?should i give that mounted partition to be rwx for all the root the users the groups ?
[02:08] <borntobewild> i think it will work
[02:08] <borntobewild> :)
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Jack_Smirnoff: 2.6.15-25 after all upgrades
[02:08] <PacketScan> Draconicus, you said it was multipul choice  i didn't want you confused :d
[02:08] <ggilbert_> It's still under pretty heavy development though
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> thanks
[02:08] <nickwebcouk> whats the terminal command to show the desktop (minimise windows) im trying to set up win key+m in xbinds.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Jack_Smirnoff: 2.6.15-23 from installer
[02:08] <Draconicus> PacketScan: :P
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can you help me with repairing my grub, I have a Mepis dual boot floppy I am trying to use..
[02:09] <OPENports> screw certifications
[02:09] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Eh... That didn't do it, it seems.
[02:09] <Jenkens> beh
[02:09] <jme> good luck without certs or experience
[02:09] <Jenkens> dapper iso is too big for my 650mb RW's. is there a netinst for it?
[02:09] <ggilbert_> nickwebcouk: Might be able to do it through dbus, but it's not a console command as far as I know.
[02:10] <jvai> anybody heard of "allpeers" for firefox? it's on newforge
[02:10] <MarcN> Jenkens: maybe try the dapper server version.  Then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <ggilbert_> nickwebcouk: There's a keybindings option under preferences though. That's probably more along the lines of what you'll want
[02:10] <Jenkens> marcn: hrmmm..
[02:11] <nickwebcouk> ggilbert_, my god - why didnt I see that before? lol - thank you! :P
[02:12] <jvai> http://software.newsforge.com/software/06/06/20/1940233.shtml?tid=130&tid=13
[02:12] <borntobewild> graham: it worked thank you very much
[02:12] <graham> you are welcome
[02:12] <jvai> sound like a good way to transer large file like iso's thru the browser
[02:14] <Tom7e> what C compiler do i need to get to compile programs from source?
[02:14] <Draconicus> Wow. Did you guys completely forget about the n64 emulators or what? :P
[02:14] <TeacherTodd813> I'm trying to install on an IBM ThinkCentre M51 (8143, to be exact) and not having much luck. Video dies during install and the screen goes blank with the monitor power light going blinky. Any ideas even of where to look for help?
[02:15] <snoops> jvai time will tell.. I find the download mechanism for firefox to be pretty slow.. so much so I send the file to a download manager to get it quicker
[02:15] <TeacherTodd813> Tom7e: gcc is pretty much the standard C compiler.
[02:15] <graham> Draconicus:  tried ultrahle back in the day
[02:15] <graham> anything newer
[02:15] <Paladine> jvai, sounds like bloatware to me
[02:16] <Tom7e> ok thanks
[02:16] <jolmash> can somebody help me on configure php5 as cgi on apache2?
[02:16] <jvai> true... lol.. it looks like swpyware for firefox, the screenshots r on a xp box
[02:17] <goonies> ok so i copied a bunch of backgrounds from my windows partition over to /usr/share/backgrounds and the images arent displayed through nautilus...heres a screenshot, does anyone have any idea why?
[02:17] <snoops> I'm looking for some presentational software for linux.. umm something to allow me to record the screen (for fast motion), record my voice, and I guess some software similar to ms's powerpoint?
[02:17] <jvai> shame on newsforge, for posting that, shame on me for linking it in here
[02:18] <goonies> http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7br.png
[02:18] <goonies> i dont know why the pictures arent being displayed
[02:18] <Usunny> snoops try openOffice
[02:18] <__mikem> doesn't open office come with ubuntu
[02:18] <Warbo> snoops: OpenOffice Impress, KOffice and there are a few standalone tools. Istanbul can record the screen, but I think it is broke in Dapper. xvidcap can do it though (gvidcap is a GUI for it)
[02:19] <J-_> abiword is good =D
[02:19] <jvai> yes @ miken
[02:19] <snoops> Usunny okay.. how about the screen capturing and voice recording?
[02:19] <OPENports> anyone with knowledge of apache2 please can u help me?
[02:19] <AdamG_FC6> is there someone in here who can help me with a boot loader issue (pretty straightforward... I just don't how to do it)
[02:19] <mcphail> goonies: nautilus has a setting - it will only preview images under a certain size (in megabytes). You can change this
[02:19] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: What is up?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> I just installed another distro with my (x/)ubuntu comp
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> and it re-did the bootloader, of course
[02:20] <snoops> I've tried istanbul, it seems to half work in ubuntu.. where can I get xvidcap for amd64 (not in the repositories), and umm does xvidcap also have voice recording? Or will I have to use a mishmatch of voice recorder+capture software?
[02:20] <Draconicus> graham: Project64?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> for some reason, it kept _no_ boot options with my xubuntu partition
[02:20] <Draconicus> Anyway, um..
[02:20] <jrib> goonies: how big are the files?
[02:20] <Tom7e> how do i uninstall old kernels?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> Basically I don't know how to find the default boot options for ubuntu
[02:20] <Jenkens> blargh
[02:21] <Jenkens> this sucks
[02:21] <Jenkens> no 700mb cd's.
[02:21] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: If you want 2 Linux distros at the same time then the best way is to put one bootloader on a partition and the other on the MBR, then make a chainloader entry to boot the other one (the same way you boot Windows)
[02:21] <spec> I cloned a machine and grub is messing up with "Error 17". When I try to reinstall grub in a chrooted environment, grub-install /dev/hda gives me "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[02:21] <goonies> jrib, i found out i could see em when im logged in as root
[02:21] <graham> Draconicus: ha forgot a read that, does it work well? q3 only for many years
[02:21] <jrib> goonies: make sure that edit > preferences > preview tab, isn't stopping nautilus from previewing because of the file size
[02:21] <Usunny> snoops hmm don't know, sorry :s
[02:21] <tobberoth> Anyone know of a program which can convert .flac to .mp3?
[02:21] <Draconicus> graham: I dunno. I haven't got it working yet.
[02:22] <goonies> i wonder if things are acting strange cause i activated root
[02:22] <tobberoth> I can only find for mac :(
[02:22] <graham> tobberoth: yup
[02:22] <AdamG_FC6> Warbo: I think that explains it... I put the bootloader on the 2nd partition (the one with the new distro) and the only thing under the Xubuntu partition selection is chainloader
[02:22] <jolmash> can somebody help me on configure php5 as cgi on apache2? pleease!!
[02:22] <jrib> goonies: try ' rm -r ~/.thumbnails/fail/' and reloading the page
[02:22] <Warbo> snoops: I don't think gvidcap/xvidcap do sound. Just Google for them, but I think people have had problems. There is also pyvnc2swf which can make a Flash movie of your desktop if you use x11-vnc to broadcast it to the swf capture tool
[02:22] <AdamG_FC6> but on Xubuntu it stops at Grub 1.5 level- I thought because I hadn't defined a kernel or anything
[02:22] <adamant1988> gah can anyone help me figure out why Quake won't install on my system?
[02:22] <tobberoth> graham: Mind telling me the name of one? ;)
[02:22] <Usunny> jolmash thats not some thing you just do, read all the manuels
[02:23] <graham> you using a deb based system?
[02:23] <Warbo> tobberoth: soundconverter
[02:23] <goonies> lol
[02:23] <goonies> thanks homie
[02:23] <Frankenstein> hi, i cant find any text on this... but about on average how much hdd space does ubuntu take for a regular desktop install
[02:23] <jrib> goonies: np
[02:24] <Warbo> Frankenstein: About 2.5GB I would say (including OpenOffice and stuff)
[02:24] <lostar4545> frankenstein 3Gb i think i could be wrong
[02:24] <jolmash> Usunny: I dont' thing so, When someone ask about something I don't tell them that they must read ALL the manuals, but thanks
[02:24] <Frankenstein> well i have a 2GB hdd! i dont need any office stuff though
[02:24] <goonies> jrib, i take it that has happened to u b4?
[02:25] <Warbo> Frankenstein: Install with the "server" option to get a basic install, then install Xorg and GNOME
[02:25] <graham> Frankenstein:start with a server install only add what you need
[02:25] <TeacherTodd813> Where's the best place to get help about nasty video issues? My screen just blanks on install.
[02:25] <jrib> goonies: yep, happened with some video files before I got the right codecs and nautilus wasn't retrying
[02:25] <Frankenstein> sounds good! so all i need is X and Gnone?
[02:25] <Frankenstein> Xorg is the X server?
[02:25] <goonies> is there a windows codec package for ubuntu?
[02:26] <tobberoth> Warbo: Thanks, this is perfect
[02:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about codecs
[02:26] <F0LL0W3R> w32codecs
[02:26] <graham> w32codec or something on multiverse
[02:26] <Warbo> Frankenstein: X is for graphics, and GNOME, KDE and XFCE are desktops (I would recommend XFCE actually, since it is small)
[02:26] <goonies> yeah thats what it was
[02:26] <goonies> i remeber from gentoo
[02:26] <knoppix> help!
[02:26] <goonies> remember*
[02:26] <jrib> knoppix: you need to ask a question for us to try to help you :)
[02:26] <F0LL0W3R> is there any good php editor on ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Frankenstein> well i know i need the X server for the Gnome desktops and what not... but i dont understand what Xorg is... is that stand for the X font server thing
[02:27] <Usunny> !php
[02:27] <jvai> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html win32 codecs
[02:27] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:27] <AskHL> Hello, I use obexftp to transfer stuff from a mobile phone to the computer. How can I transfer multiple files at once, e.g. by recursing through directories?
[02:27] <jrib> F0LL0W3R: vim?
[02:27] <martinoc> what do you guys recommend I do about kernel panics - I can install dapper but cant boot
[02:27] <malachi> How  would I install the new openoffice?
[02:27] <F0LL0W3R> jrib can emaces also be used as editor ?
[02:27] <Warbo> AskHL: I do that with Konqueror
[02:27] <graham> panic :)
[02:27] <knoppix> you know which kernel is running now on ubuntu?
[02:27] <jrib> F0LL0W3R: some claim it can ;)
[02:28] <AskHL> Warbo, thanks. Then maybe Nautilus can do this as well ?
[02:28] <AskHL> Will try
[02:28] <F0LL0W3R> jrib thx alot :)
[02:28] <Warbo> AskHL: I use GNOME, but use Konqueror speciffically for Bluetooth :)
[02:28] <Frankenstein> what is your package manger called?
[02:28] <Frankenstein> how do i call it
[02:28] <Warbo> apt-get
[02:28] <Frankenstein> so apt-get search X would work then?
[02:29] <lophyte> Frankenstein: if you
[02:29] <Warbo> Frankenstein: "apt-cache search" "apt-get install"
[02:29] <lophyte> 'd rather use GUI, you can use synaptic
[02:29] <martinoc> My system boots ok into a Breezy live cd but the dapper kernels just havent worked
[02:29] <StFS> hello... can anyone help me with changing wireless network card drivers? I have an IBM T30 and out of the box it used orinoco... but I've had no luck with getting that to connect so I want to try hostap
[02:29] <Warbo> Frankenstein: "apt-get install xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop" should do it
[02:29] <Tom7e> how do i uninstall old kernels?
[02:29] <knoppix> jrib: please, do you know which kernel is running now on ubuntu?
[02:30] <AskHL> Warbo, Konqueror depends on half of KDE! That's just not an option, I have limited harddisk space :(
[02:30] <Warbo> lophyte: Trying to install X with Synaptic? What a great idea
[02:30] <lophyte> ahh, didn't catch that part :)
[02:30] <goonies> mplayer is obsolete?
[02:30] <MarcN> Warbo: konqueror for bluetooth? what?
[02:30] <lophyte> goonies: since when?
[02:30] <Warbo> MPlayer, VLC, Xine and Gstreamer are all seperate options. Depends on what you like
[02:30] <jrib> knoppix: 2.6.15-25 is what I have now
[02:30] <Frankenstein> k thanks guys! wish me luck
[02:30] <goonies> i typed apt-get install mplayer
[02:31] <tobberoth_> hmm, I got the following error when I started soundconverter, how do I fix it? "LAME GStreamer plugin not found, desactivating MP3 output."
[02:31] <AskHL> Warbo, how do you access that kind of stuff in konqueror? Is there some magical string like network:/// or file:///, just different?
[02:31] <jrib> goonies: you need to enable multiverse first, are you familiar with how to do that?
[02:31] <Warbo> goonies: apt-get install mplayer-386 (or whatever your system is) I think
[02:31] <F0LL0W3R> how can i change the perimssion of folder ? sudo chmod 777 folder_name ?
[02:31] <jvai> goonies just dl the essential-2006xxx from the link
[02:31] <goonies> jrib, yes i have done that
[02:31] <Timir> Hey, can linux support 2 ethernet cards fairly well and feed internet out through the secondary card?
[02:31] <Warbo> AskHL: There is a bluetooth section in the sidebar (under Services I think)
[02:31] <AskHL> Warbo, thanks.
[02:31] <Draconicus> Ah... Hell with this.
[02:31] <lophyte> Timir: yup.. if you use the firewall, its easy to do
[02:31] <jrib> goonies: what did apt-get say exactly?
[02:32] <jvai> u can make totem do just about what wmp can do, i did on hoary
[02:32] <knoppix> I need Kernel 2.6.8-2-386 does it means that I have to touch my kernel?
[02:32] <goonies> got a paste site?
[02:32] <Timir> lophyte: how do you mean?
[02:32] <goonies> oh in the topic
[02:32] <Warbo> AskHL: I logged into KDE a while ago and everything bluetooth started automatically when the desktop came up, I even forgot my dongle was in actually. KDE bluetooth is miles ahead of GNOME
[02:32] <graham> knoppix: not literally :)
[02:32] <lophyte> Timir: I believe firestarter can do an "internet connection sharing" type thing.. is that what you're trying to do?
[02:33] <TeacherTodd813> One more time: I run the install disk on a standard, run-of-the-mill IBM tower and I never get to the installer. The whole screen just blanks. I've already googled lots, found something that told me how to bring up the terminal, suggested I try "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver", which I did and that didn't help any. Is there a good place to go to figure out what to do?
[02:33] <malachi> How  would I install the new OpenOffice that came out today?
[02:33] <lophyte> a new openoffice came out today?
[02:33] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: 1) It is xserver-xorg 2) Try the alternate disc
[02:33] <adamant1988> really?
[02:33] <Timir> lophyte: Exactly what I'm trying to do, but is that for all flavors of linux?
[02:33] <malachi> 2.0.3
[02:34] <malachi> It's on the main page.
[02:34] <malachi> www.openoffice.org =]
[02:34] <pc1> hola
[02:34] <lophyte> Timir: I don't have any real experience with firestarter, but I know it can be done easily in Ubuntu... on other flavours, you'd have to do it manually with iptables/ipchains or find some other software to do it
[02:34] <pc1> chicos  de 18 para arriba
[02:34] <goonies> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16798
[02:34] <jrib> !es
[02:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:34] <jvai> lmao.. um, i need to upgrade from hoary!
[02:34] <knoppix> I have a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet, will I need a Kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-386?
[02:34] <Warbo> Timir: IP Masquerading must be set up on the machine with the Internet. Firestarter can do this (you don't even need to keep it running). Then the Gateway must be set on the machines which you want to give the connection to
[02:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell jvai about upgrade
[02:35] <AskHL> Warbo, actually I just want a simple text interface which supports copying multiple files, I don't need a lot of fancy stuff. I can copy the files one by one using obexftp but there's no example in the man page about multiple files...
[02:35] <jvai> lol
[02:35] <pc1> ok
[02:35] <adamant1988> can someone help me install this software from disk?
[02:35] <AskHL> ...and there's no "obvious" solution (i.e. "*")
[02:35] <Timir> Warbo: Is that fairly easy and quick?
[02:35] <adamant1988> I'm trying to install quake and it's telling me my permissions are denied despite the fact I'm running the installer as sudo
[02:36] <blacktears> is it possible to add a sound event?
[02:36] <Warbo> Timir: Yes. Firestarter starts with a wizard-like interface. The Gateway is set when you enter your IP address in System>Administration>Networking
[02:36] <jrib> goonies: you have dapper-backports multiverse, but not dapper multiverse.  run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and add the word " multiverse" to the end of every line that contains "universe" but not "multiverse"
[02:36] <Timir> Warbo: This box is using Mandrake 10.1, I'm asking here because the freggin #Mandriva channel is dead in the water
[02:37] <jrib> goonies: after you save, just run 'sudo apt-get update' and try mplayer again.  For w32codecs, you need special instructions, which the bot will send you now...
[02:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about w32codecs
[02:37] <Warbo> Timir: The actual programs which sort this out are a core part of every Linux system, so there is no trouble there. Firestarter makes it easy to set up, and is available in oretty much every distro
[02:38] <malachi> So....................
[02:38] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: The alternate disk might be the solution? I wasn't doing anything it says to use it for...
[02:38] <goonies> the bot hasnt been sending me any info
[02:38] <malachi> Anyone able to tell me how to install the new OpenOffice?
[02:38] <goonies> uve typed it a couple times for me but it hasnt told me squat =P
[02:38] <lophyte> malachi: gimme a sec... I wanna install it too :)
[02:38] <jrib> !w32codecs
[02:38] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[02:38] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The alternate disc gives a text-only installer. If your graphics aren't wrking then it is a good idea to use it
[02:38] <AdamG_FC6> is there perhaps a liveCD for boot loader installs/fixes
[02:38] <tobberoth_> This is BS, soundconverter won't find my LAME plugin even if I have gstreamer-plugins-ugly installed!
[02:38] <goonies> there ya go
[02:39] <Cainus> hey...anyone know why I would be able to hit http://[my ip address]  from the local machine, but not from another machine that can ping the first machine?  does ubuntu have a default firewall or anything I should be aware of?
[02:39] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: All LiveCDs have a text editor, and "grub-install /dev/devicename" will reinstall GRUB
[02:39] <NickGarvey> Cainus: is it a local IP?
[02:39] <Cainus> nick: yep
[02:39] <AdamG_FC6> Warbo, thx
[02:39] <Timir> Warbo: Is there any way I can run the internet straight through it like a hub, while keeping some internet ability on this box?
[02:39] <jvai> peavc erbody, i'm ghost
[02:40] <knoppix> Is there someone who has used a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet?
[02:40] <Warbo> Timir: That exactly what I described
[02:40] <PacketScan> draconius, har ar
[02:40] <AdamG_FC6> warbo: That won't mess up my other data in the partition?
[02:40] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Which means I'll be back trying to figure out how to get graphics working on my new install? I guess that's progress... :-)
[02:40] <Timir> Warbo: hm, do you happen to know the commands to? Or can I download and run firestarter on this mandrake box?
[02:40] <lophyte> malachi: did you download it directly from their site, or did you use bittorrent?
[02:41] <malachi> Direct, lophyte.
[02:41] <malachi> Need a link?
[02:41] <Cainus> so... no default firewall guys? :\
[02:41] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: Installing GRUB to a partition won't screw up any data, and neither will the MBR. The only thing you might screw is GRUB, in which case try installing it again :)
[02:41] <lophyte> dang.. its going slow when I download it directly
[02:41] <lophyte> got a fast link?
[02:41] <malachi> Let me see...
[02:41] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The alternate CD has NO graphics. That is the point
[02:41] <malachi> http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.3/OOo_2.0.3_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
[02:41] <AdamG_FC6> okay, thanks warbo
[02:41] <malachi> lophyte: That's the one I used
[02:42] <lophyte> malachi: excellent :)
[02:42] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Put then how will I get GNOME running on the new install?
[02:42] <lophyte> malachi: gimme a couple of minutes to download it and check it out
[02:42] <Warbo> Timir: Install Firestarter on the box to be the "hub" (I am assuming the Mandrake one) then when you set up your network on the other machine/s put in the IP address of the "hub" in the Gateway field
[02:42] <graham> tobberoth_: is it gst-register ?
[02:43] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: Erm... By installing Ubuntu? It is the CD which has no graphcics
[02:43] <lophyte> malachi: you uninstalled your old one, right?
[02:43] <malachi> Nope.
[02:43] <RodrigoX> please, whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[02:43] <lophyte> ahh.. start there first :)
[02:43] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The CDs have a harder time of graphics, since you can't save any kind of config for them, they have to be generic and read-only
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte: Haven't installed the new one yet, so until I do, the old one's gonna stay.
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Right. But if the install CD is having trouble with the graphics settings, isn't the new install likely to as well? Or is it going to be smarter and have more drivers and such?
[02:44] <Timir> Warbo: Happen to know where I can get firestarter? And will that work with a router?
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Oh, OK.
[02:44] <lophyte> you can always reinstall it if the new one is weird
[02:44] <lophyte> though
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: That makes sense.
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte But...I don't want to side-install
[02:44] <tobberoth_> graham: Well, it seems i HAD to download gstreamer-0.8-Lame
[02:44] <malachi> Yeah, I might do that.
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte: Shouldn't it overwrite?
[02:44] <Warbo> soundconverter uses 0.8 I think. Needs an update
[02:45] <lophyte> it might cause problems.. tar.gz file from openoffice.org isn't specific to any distro.. whereas the openoffice that comes with ubuntu is specific to ubuntu
[02:45] <cappicard> poo... is mythtv still fubar regarding mysql 5?
[02:45] <lophyte> I'm going to uninstall my old one first.. if the new one is weird, I'll just reinstall 2.0.2
[02:46] <graham> K
[02:46] <Timir> Brb, gotta reboot and install the card
[02:46] <noway-> I just did, apt-get install ruby  .... but it won't let me use the interactive sessions! (irb)
[02:47] <navilon_> is there a way to tell apt to delete sources that no longer exist?
[02:47] <malachi> lophyte: Okay. I guess I'll do the same...
[02:47] <malachi> I seem to have disconnected....
[02:47] <Warbo> navilon_: just do it manually (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)
[02:47] <knoppix> I should like to install an Ubuntu Server on my machine but I onli have a I have a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet but at less Knoppix does not recognise my ethernet, will Ubuntu recognise it?
[02:48] <navilon_> i know, but i have so many and it would take quite a while to pick out each one
[02:48] <Warbo> knoppix: Just have a go, and if it doesn't then come back. Something so specific is unlikely to get a response, especially since you don't actually have a problem at the moment
[02:49] <megatronnn> anyone have a working install of wine?
[02:49] <Warbo> megatronnn: yes
[02:49] <malachi> lophyte: How's it going?
[02:50] <lophyte> malachi: I got some errors uninstalling it.. did you too?
[02:50] <megatronnn> @war have any tutorials or anything?
[02:50] <jme> !wine
[02:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:50] <knoppix> I'm sorry. Thanks. Bye!
[02:50] <jme> that has some good links
[02:50] <malachi> lophyte: No, did you uninstall through Synaptics?
[02:50] <lophyte> yeah.. I got it uninstalled, I just had to tinker wiht it
[02:50] <Warbo> megatronnn: Actually I am a pacifist. "Warbo" is an abbrieviation of my surname :)
[02:51] <malachi> lophyte: I'm wondering if "alien -i *.rpm" will do the installation trick.
[02:51] <lophyte> ahh, yeah, I see its all rpms..
[02:51] <Warbo> I think I have seen RPM in Ubuntu. Does this mean that they can be used natively (although it would be a bad idea) or is it just a dependency of alien?
[02:52] <lophyte> you can use RPM on any distro natively... its just a bad idea due to the filesystem structure and such
[02:53] <jme> yeah, you don't want to be using apt and rpm on the same system, because they won't play nice
[02:53] <lophyte> yup
[02:53] <Warbo> OK, I was just curious at what problems you would get with a dual system (surely the RPM database would not contain the DEB entries, so it would try to install everything itself and overwrite/conflict with the DPKG files)
[02:53] <neotard> need a single package system, have for years :)  too bad distros can't agree on things.
[02:54] <lophyte> well, RPMs are constructed for RedHat-based distributions.. the filesystem structure, the configuration, etc.
[02:54] <jme> exactly - you'd have different packages referring to the same files
[02:54] <lophyte> whereas DEBs are constructed for Debian-based distros
[02:54] <Warbo> neotard: I don't know about the "autopackage" things. People say they are the future but I hate the idea of them
[02:54] <malachi> There seems to be an RMPS folder containing a bunch of suspicious pacakages...
[02:54] <cius> we need a Fellowship of the Packages
[02:54] <neotard> cius:  lol
[02:54] <auk> cuis: YES
[02:54] <goonies> great mplayer is retarted
[02:54] <lophyte> malachi: I'm just gonna use alien
[02:55] <Warbo> goonies: Then use VLC :)
[02:55] <ehnoixx> The freenode IRC server is wrong on the Ubuntu support home page
[02:55] <neotard> why would you use an rpm package?  is it something you can't find as a deb?
[02:55] <auk> the major distros need to get together and standardize a package format
[02:55] <ehnoixx> There shows irc.freenode.net lol
[02:55] <lophyte> neotard: new version of openoffice only comes in RPMs
[02:56] <Warbo> neotard: I think the only RPMs that are *needed* are non-free ones, since you can always checkinstall source code
[02:56] <neotard> lophyte:  just out of curiousity.. why upgrade?  I don't want to cut your legs out from under you, but is it necessary? :)
[02:56] <mjr> auk, they actually have, LSB requires support for an old version of RPM (which is covered in debian/ubuntu via alien)
[02:56] <goonies> i installed w32codecs, as well as put the essential package in /usr/local/lib/codecs like the readme told me to and all it does is open the file for a second and closes
[02:56] <lophyte> neotard: no particular reason :P
[02:56] <malachi> lophyte: Oh crap!  I just realized uninstalling OO.org removed ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <lophyte> it did?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: its ok
[02:57] <Warbo> goonies: Did you install an MPlayer package?
[02:57] <auk> yeah
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: ubuntu-desktop can be removed
[02:57] <malachi> gnomefreak: What's the purpose of it?
[02:57] <dooglus> malachi: ubuntu-desktop is an empty package.  it just depends of everything else
[02:57] <goonies> i installed mplayer by apt-get install mplayer
[02:57] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <ubotu> k/e/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: to install packages
[02:57] <neotard> malachi:  it's just a placeholder package
[02:58] <malachi> Ah....phew
[02:58] <Warbo> goonies: Then try putting the codecs in /usr/lib/codecs (local is used for source code builds)
[02:58] <kleedrac> Can oo.o print business cards?
[02:58] <megatronnn> yeah
[02:58] <gnomefreak> its used to bring in a buch of packages but removing it doesnt remove the packages
[02:58] <megatronnn> set margins
[02:58] <gnomefreak> kleedrac: yes but havent worked on it yet
[02:58] <lophyte> neotard: what about using alien to convert RPMs to DEBs then installing from that?
[02:58] <Warbo> Don't run deborphan after removeiing ubuntu-desktop :)
[02:59] <kleedrac> gnomefreak: Sweet ... all I needed to know :)
[02:59] <malachi> lophyte: That's what I thought would be best...
[02:59] <Savage> test
[02:59] <lophyte> malachi: I'm converting them to debs right now
[02:59] <neotard> lophyte:  still run into directory structure issues.. plus your dependencies are awkward
[02:59] <lophyte> yeah, that's true
[03:00] <Savage> what does: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off, mean? it keeps giving me this error
[03:00] <neotard> lophyte:  it's just an rpm masquerading as a deb
[03:00] <lophyte> damn RPMs.
[03:00] <neotard> lophyte:  your best bet is to unpack the rpm, then build a deb :)
[03:00] <Warbo> neotard: I'm using a small screen here and I thought you said "it's dependencies are abiword" which would be ironic :)
[03:00] <goonies> Warbo, still the same, i open it, and as soon as mplayer opens it closes
[03:01] <malachi> lophyte: Hm...after poking around in the RPMs, it seems that they're going to be installed to the /opt directory.
[03:01] <malachi> Good good...
[03:01] <neotard> Warbo:  freudian slip?  under windows I use OO all the time, but 99% of the features I use there are covered by Abiword, which is tons faster than OOWriter
[03:01] <Warbo> goonies: What happens when you run gmplayer from a console (should give an error message)
[03:01] <lophyte> malachi: yeah, I just saw that too..
[03:01] <DonL> Hi
[03:01] <lophyte> malachi: if its being installed under /opt then it shouldn't be a problem
[03:01] <malachi> I wish there was a "sytem restore" in ubuntu...so I'd feel safer about screwing up....
[03:02] <azcazandco> hello people
[03:02] <Warbo> neotard: I think OOo is good for, for example, making a mailmerge containing your database entries and their financial details from your spreadsheet.  I have to get that set up.
[03:04] <azcazandco> so any help in times to come is appreciated
[03:04] <Warbo> neotard: I have found a nice theme set for QT, GTK+ and E16 now so everything looks integrated
[03:04] <OPENports> which intrusion detection system should i use?
[03:04] <goonies> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16800
[03:04] <jme> __mikem: you might have had most of the packages already
[03:04] <biscon> currently running gnome since I like to say once in a while. gonna get back to kde though, the underlying technology is simply more interesting imho. but there are things I really like about gnome as well
[03:05] <biscon> and its gotten faaast lately
[03:05] <neotard> Warbo:  wish I could settle!  I change my theme sometimes three or four times in a day :D
[03:05] <riddlebox> if
[03:05] <jme> but kubuntu includes a hell of a lot of packages
[03:05] <riddlebox> if I have a machine that used to have lvm on it, how do I get rid of that for dapper install?
[03:05] <azcazandco> is it worth getting kubuntu?
[03:05] <jme> in peoples' experience, does Kubuntu have the polish that vanilla Ubuntu has?
[03:05] <Warbo> goonies: Go in it's preferences and change the video output
[03:06] <__mikem> PErsonally, xubuntu is my favorite out of the three, but thats only because kubuntu doesn't do kde justice
[03:06] <lophyte> malachi: I'm just gonna go for it
[03:06] <azcazandco> what is xubuntu?
[03:06] <Savage> what does: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off, this mean?
[03:06] <malachi> neotard: You do know you can make qt look better, right?
[03:06] <bcron> Im on xubuntu and Im loving it
[03:06] <DonL> for me, I like the simpicity and beauty of Gnome. Kde seem to be too glitzy. I don't need bouncing icons (my choice though)
[03:06] <goonies> Warbo, what should i change it too
[03:06] <neotard> did kde remove the macintosh toolbar ripoff?  I installed kde some time ago expressly for that nifty feature, but be damned if I could find it.
[03:06] <goonies> anything?
[03:06] <__mikem> azcazandco it is ubuntu + xfce
[03:06] <azcazandco> which mean what to the layman
[03:06] <Warbo> Kubuntu seems to be the standard KDE distro these days. Whenever I see a review of something KDE it is always done in Kubuntu
[03:06] <neotard> really hate how kde crams billions of options into billions of control panels.
[03:06] <lophyte> I agree with DonL
[03:07] <azcazandco> different interface?
[03:07] <jme> I really didn't like Xubuntu, because it seemed to lack a lot of the nice polish that makes Ubuntu nice
[03:07] <Warbo> goonies: What is it at the moment?
[03:07] <goonies> xv
[03:07] <spades> azcazandco ubuntu using xfce as the desktop environment, check out http://www.xfce.org
[03:07] <Warbo> goonies: Ah, change it to X11
[03:07] <jme> Doesn't FC come with KDE by default?
[03:07] <neotard> xfce is a great desktop
[03:07] <__mikem> IF you want a good kde distro, check out linspire, suse, mepis, or knoppix
[03:07] <goonies> =)
[03:07] <goonies> thanks
[03:07] <malachi> neotard, and the rest of you who think qt looks ugly beyond all reason: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/02/installing-skype
[03:07] <lophyte> Ubuntu looks great compared to Kubuntu.. I only wish it had a few more options for customizability
[03:07] <__mikem> jme no, but you can get it
[03:08] <Savage> any one want to tell me what this line of code means: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off
[03:08] <DonL> I'd keep a close eye on xfce. It looks nice and it's improving in leaps and bounds
[03:08] <neotard> malachi:  lol, it's not that kde looks ugly, or qt rather.  it's that when you run gnome, configuring qt AND gtk limits your options.
[03:08] <jme> savage, try googling it
[03:08] <bcron> azcazandco, In linux the windows environment isn't as tied to the system as it is in Windows so you have choices of how many bells and whistle you want in your interface
[03:08] <azcazandco> is xfce quick to install?
[03:08] <__mikem> XFCE is already superior to gnome. IT does everything gnome does and with less overhead
[03:08] <azcazandco> bcron: vcool
[03:09] <Warbo> goonies: That is the first thing I have to do with MPlayer, I don't know why it osn't default (I was going to say "X11" but I needed to know that you weren't already using it, since the error message was complaining about X11)
[03:09] <jme> __mikem: really? it sure didn't seem as nice to me
[03:09] <neotard> malachi:  quite frankly, I think qt is a better desktop toolset.  but kde as a desktop environment is just too much unecessary complexity.
[03:09] <Savage> jme: i did i get like a bunch of results but yet to find one with the same problem im having
[03:09] <azcazandco> can i just use the graphical installer then?
[03:09] <jme> I kinda think Xubuntu should have gone with fluxbox
[03:09] <lophyte> Fubuntu? hehe.
[03:09] <__mikem> jme guess its a matter of oppinion
[03:09] <jme> yep
[03:09] <neotard> malachi:  although, as a java programmer I love gtk :)  the gtk java bindings are WAY better than qt
[03:10] <__mikem> Ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu are REAL WORDS though
[03:10] <dli> jme, fluxbox is good
[03:10] <snoops> __mikem no point trying to start an argument about window managers..
[03:10] <spades> jme google nubutu
[03:10] <spades> nubuntu*
[03:10] <bcron> azcazandco, for a long time there were KDE and Gnome and they were like Pepsi and Coke... there are light ones like xfce and fluxbox but they were underpowered in comparison.  I love this new xubuntu because it's all the speed of a lightweight but it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything
[03:10] <Warbo> Everyone knows Explorer is the best, since it is the most popular :)
[03:10] <__mikem> snoops I have no intention on doing that
[03:10] <lophyte> eww explorer
[03:10] <lophyte> :P
[03:10] <DonL> Anybody have any favourites for video streaming?
[03:10] <jme> haha, nubuntu.org returns a 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
[03:10] <lophyte> malachi: I'm not sure if I wanna go ahead and install this from RPMs..
[03:10] <Warbo> "Windows is the most popular OS in the world" No, it is the mot USED OS.
[03:11] <jme> makes me real confident
[03:11] <neotard> Warbo:  one thing you can count on in explorer is compatibility at least :)
[03:11] <lophyte> Warbo: agreed.
[03:11] <__mikem> COmparing xfce and fluxbox is like apples and oranges, xfce is light weight, but it is not just a window manager like fluxbox, its an entire de
[03:11] <bcron> A guy at work showed me IE7 and he was wigging out about the tabbed browsing...
[03:11] <lophyte> bcron: hahaha
[03:11] <spades> jme it is close to end of the month, dont blame them for conserving bandwidth
[03:11] <dli> __mikem, yes, and xfce is much more buggier
[03:12] <Warbo> bcron: If only I could use tabbed browsing. Tell you what, why not put it on text editors and terminals and stuff too, or am I just being silly?
[03:12] <snoops> DonL vlc has done a good job of video streaming for me
[03:12] <__mikem> dli xubuntu is currentlyusing a beta release of xfce, so saying that isn't really fair
[03:12] <azcazandco> I saw chris wilson talking at @media and he was actually quite interesting
[03:12] <jme> hehe, well it'd be nice if I could access the site!
[03:12] <bcron> I don't catch your meaning
[03:12] <malachi> lophyte: Me neither.....I'm waiting on you ;)
[03:12] <lophyte> malachi: haha
[03:12] <__mikem> great looks like I did start a desktop war
[03:12] <witless> hi.  what's the easiest-to-set-up-and-use http / https proxy server in ubuntu's archives?
[03:12] <__mikem> :(
[03:12] <DonL> snoops, thanks. I haven't tried that one yet. Does it do Quicktime and Windows Media Player?
[03:13] <Warbo> DonL: Usually
[03:13] <dli> __mikem, the release from xfce.org
[03:13] <snoops> umm it'll do wmv if yo have the win32 codecs DonL, and umm not sure about quicktime
[03:13] <biscon> Savage: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/173
[03:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need help rebuilding my grub.  The Ubuntu help at !grub were worse than USLESS they were a waste of time.
[03:13] <lophyte> malachi: alrighty.. here goes, I'm gonna start with alien -iv openoffice.org-core*.rpm
[03:13] <dli> DonL, I use squid, don't know whether it's easy or not
[03:13] <jme> VLC does everything with the right codecs
[03:13] <__mikem> dli, I forget, I just read it somewhere
[03:13] <azcazandco> what was the answer to can I switch to 64bit without reinstalling ubuntu
[03:13] <jme> you can get 'em from multiverse
[03:13] <Warbo> VLC uses it's own system doesn't it? I've never needed codecs for it before (except on Windows)
[03:13] <__mikem> dli but lets stopp debating this, this really isn't the place
[03:13] <jme> lophyte: why are you doing that?
[03:13] <neotard> azcazandco:  you cannot switch out a kernel w/o rebooting :)
[03:14] <DonL> Ok. dli That's a new one on me. Hadn't heard of squid
[03:14] <jme> I thought it was possible somehow to switch kernels
[03:14] <lophyte> jme: doing what?
[03:14] <Savage> gah why wont ubuntu install its pissing me off
[03:14] <neotard> DonL:  aka calamari
[03:14] <jme> installing rpms
[03:14] <azcazandco> yeah but i could get the 64bit kernel, install and reboot?
[03:14] <lophyte> because there's no other packages
[03:14] <snoops> Warbo I believe for most codecs it does (opensource ones).. for legal reasons I believe it can't package wmv or quicktime/realplayer etc
[03:14] <DonL> jme, I've got the codecs. Should work I guess
[03:14] <mikeo1> whats up with nvidia drivers
[03:14] <biscon> Savage: check the link I pasted.. that guy had the same error due the bootloader looking on the wrong hd
[03:14] <neotard> azcazandco:  supposing you have 64bit architecture, I'd assume so.  still a 32bit person myself :)
[03:14] <__mikem> azcazandco the 64 bit kernel won't work without the other 64 bit packages
[03:14] <mikeo1> glxgears is going at less than 1fps
[03:15] <Warbo> I heard VLC got itself a free WMV9 codec thanks to DVDJohn
[03:15] <azcazandco> i have an amd64bit 3200
[03:15] <mikeo1> with the nvidia drivers in the repos
[03:15] <Jymmm> I can't disable the inboard video, only select which is primary in BIOS. The PCI video card does display during POST, and even during boot. But when it gets to starting X it chokes. Can I at least disable gui login, then figure out wth is goin on ?
[03:15] <azcazandco> 2gb ram
[03:15] <neotard> azcazandco:  the install should configure grub for you though, so when you restart the new kernel should appear in the grub menu.
[03:15] <jme> mikeo1: you're using hardware accel?
[03:15] <snoops> oh really Warbo? Awesome!
[03:15] <mikeo1> i think so
[03:15] <jme> well, it ain't working!
[03:15] <azcazandco> am i running b4 i can walk here?
[03:15] <bluemoon> Hello, i installed two conflicting packages and now ubuntu(apt-get) wont let me do anything with apt-get till it is resolved.. how would i accomplis this?
[03:15] <mikeo1> i have nvidia enabled, and i see the logo when x starts
[03:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jymmm what motherboard will NOT let you disable onboard video?
[03:15] <Warbo> snoops: That was news from a while ago, and it referred to the CVS. I don't know if it ever got put into upstream properly
[03:16] <DonL> Well, thanks for the hints, people. I'm off to try a couple things.
[03:16] <biscon> mikeol: what does glxinfo | grep OpenGL says?
[03:16] <Jymmm> Jack_Smirnoff: Intel CA810e
[03:16] <jme> there's honestly not that much benefit to 64-bit, azcazandco
[03:16] <Warbo> mikeo1: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[03:16] <witless> anyone care to recommend a http / https proxy server in ubuntu's archives?
[03:16] <dli> bluemoon, remove one or both
[03:16] <lophyte> malachi: I don't want *all* of the packages, so I'm doing them one by one, starting with the core
[03:16] <neotard> witless:  apache2 :)
[03:16] <azcazandco> jme: thanks for the honesty
[03:16] <dli> witless, squid
[03:16] <bluemoon> dli, i tried but it just gave the same error
[03:16] <riddlebox> how would I blow away lvm that was on my machine or use the lvm in the dapper install?
[03:16] <jme> hehe
[03:16] <dli> witless, sorry, you mean server :( squid is for proxy
[03:16] <snoops> I'm using 64bit ubuntu.. and while I really like it.. so many things like flash are 32bit still..
[03:16] <azcazandco> k i gotta restart... just updated everything after my install
[03:16] <Warbo> riddlebox: Graphical installer doesn't do LVM I don't think.
[03:17] <jme> basically, you'll only get a speed benefit if code is optimized for 64-bit
[03:17] <dli> bluemoon, pastebin your command line and error message
[03:17] <bluemoon> ok
[03:17] <bcron> #cups
[03:17] <neotard> jme:  he'll be able to address all his memory if he has that much :)
[03:17] <azcazandco> jme: is there much 64bit stuff out there for ubuntu?
[03:17] <mikeo1> that i have gf4 integrated graphics
[03:17] <azcazandco> also ...w hat is the scoop with XLG as that shit looks fun
[03:17] <bcron> forgot the /j ... :p
[03:17] <jme> azcazandco: not really, though I believe some programs like mplayer have some 64-bit extensions
[03:17] <zealot> anyone know what the latest one of quinn's compiz updates messed up?
[03:18] <jme> it's more of a toy right now
[03:18] <mikeo1> hmmm
[03:18] <azcazandco> yes nice lookin toy
[03:18] <riddlebox> Warbo, the problem is that I cannot even get the graphical installer to overwrite the lvm
[03:18] <zealot>  the latest compiz package removed compiz-gnome and took away gnome-window-decorator
[03:18] <biscon> zealot: it works fine here
[03:18] <Warbo> XGL is only useful with Compiz, and I don't like it since it is too much like Metacity
[03:18] <jme> mikeo1, are you sure the driver supports that card?
[03:18] <mikeo1> i dunno does it?
[03:18] <lophyte> I liked Compiz.. but it broke my notification area.
[03:18] <Warbo> riddlebox: In GParted you should see your PVs as "Unknown" or something. Just remove them
[03:18] <azcazandco> right ... brb
[03:18] <mikeo1> the nvidia logo shows, and it boots into the desktop
[03:18] <snoops> jme hmm all the basic apps work fine I've found
[03:18] <zealot> biscon: well if you update and are using the beerorkid repository, compiz obsoletes compiz-gnome (which contains gnome-window-decorator)
[03:19] <jme> oh, they'll work, snoops
[03:19] <mikeo1> glxgears is just at like 5fps for 5 seconds tho
[03:19] <jme> there's just little benefit, is my point
[03:19] <zealot> Warbo: how is compiz anything remotely like metacity?
[03:19] <snoops> jme.. yeah I'm keen to see if I can notice a difference :/
[03:19] <Adam_G> alight, I did grub-install /dev/sda1, and I get an error after "probing devices to find BIOS drives" saying "could not find defice for /boot: not found or not a block device"
[03:19] <zealot> Warbo: transparency and wobbling are not features in metacity ;-)
[03:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need help rebuilding my grub.  The Ubuntu help at !grub were worse than USLESS they were a waste of time.
[03:19] <Adam_G> I"m in the xubuntu liveCD, btw
[03:19] <jme> don't end up like the gentoo people, snoops
[03:19] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: whats wrong with your grub
[03:20] <Adam_G> so does this mean that grub-install just won't work from here?
[03:20] <Warbo> zealot: It uses the GTK+ colour scheme, it's buttons and menus are basically the same and the only theme available is like Clearlooks (has the close gadgets on the right, etc.)
[03:20] <biscon> zealot: I do, upgraded earlier.. perhaps I haven't restarted since hehe
[03:20] <riddlebox> Warbo, I did that but then it fails everytime I try to finish
[03:20] <snoops> jme because ya know, I jumped on the 64bit bandwagon without knowing flash is decades old and only 32bit.. And then there's the whole wine only 32bit.. and well if I'm going to have to chroot into most apps :(
[03:20] <RadiantFire> calling Jack_Smirnoff.  Are you there....
[03:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> It got trashed, the !grub hep says at the boot prompt type xxx .. The install disk doen not give me a boot prompt
[03:20] <Warbo> riddlebox: Maybe just wipe the partition table with fdisk?
[03:20] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, heres what you can do
[03:20] <Blinocac200sx> Any of yall ever run Ubuntu on an Imac?
[03:21] <OPENports> help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?
[03:21] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: can youboot with a cd
[03:21] <jme> yeah, 64-bit will get there, but it's unimportant now
[03:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  Thanks for the help
[03:21] <riddlebox> Warbo, it says that it cannot open /dev/hda
[03:21] <RadiantFire> like the install cd
[03:21] <jme> I guess I was under the impression you could still run 32-bit code, like in Windows
[03:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> Yes the 6.06 live does boot
[03:21] <Warbo> riddlebox: Are you using sudo?
[03:21] <snoops> jme I was thinking I should actually be able to notice a difference between 32bit/64bit.. Using a fairly grunty cpu (amd 4400+ x2).. oh well
[03:21] <Jymmm> Ok, I was able to get a console by booting up in recovery mode, how can I disable gui login?
[03:21] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, boot into that
[03:21] <riddlebox> warbo, yes
[03:22] <snoops> jme oh you can run 32bit code.. you just have to either do it chrooted into a 32bit environment, or with umm 'linux32'
[03:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> Im on that machine so I will need to take notes and try it
[03:22] <OPENports> warbo: help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?
[03:22] <jme> oh
[03:22] <jme> easier on Windows
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: wait
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: if you are booted, how did you grub get messed up?
[03:22] <bluemoon> dli, pastebin.com failed :(
[03:22] <jme> I guess flash isn't available because it's binary-only
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: you only need to have the machine turned on somehow, thats all
[03:22] <dli> bluemoon, pastebin.ca
[03:22] <Savage> biscon: my hard drive is in master like it says it should on the link still no luck
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> I removed a defective second drive and lost everything until I fdisk /mbr
[03:23] <Warbo> 64bit just shows the complete brokenness of the computing market. People don't try to use x86 apps on PPC because they know they don't work, but because x86_64 can run Windows they assume it should all work as 64bit. It is not 64bit's fault, it is companies who have blinkered themselves to a single architecture
[03:23] <snoops> jme well I blame macromedia/adobe for it
[03:23] <bluemoon> dli,http://pastebin.ca/75316
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> sda3 has Ubuntu
[03:23] <Warbo> OPENports: No idea
[03:23] <biscon> Savage: okay but perhaps you should write the boot sector again.. as well as inspecting the grub.conf file
[03:23] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: so, you are booted on the machine
[03:23] <azcazandco> damn ... my usb keyboards stopped working after installing my updates
[03:23] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: what partition is your /boot on?
[03:23] <jme> funny how Flash became such a standard
[03:23] <Warbo> riddlebox: Unmount any partitions which are mounted?
[03:23] <azcazandco> keeps flashing
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am in XP now
[03:23] <OPENports>  help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?\\ does anyone know, thank u very much
[03:24] <theoverload> hi all
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> sda3
[03:24] <theoverload> kann mir einer helfen
[03:24] <Warbo> jme: Flashis open, just the official player isn't
[03:24] <dli> bluemoon, testing packages?
[03:24] <sss> excuse me,would anybody like to tell me how i can compile a tar.gz package,plz?
[03:24] <Flannel> !de
[03:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:24] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ah, well you need to be in linux somehow
[03:24] <Savage> biscon: i'm a newb at all this how would i inspect the grub.conf file?
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> I can boot live and come back if that will help
[03:24] <bluemoon> dli, i went on an installation spree :)
[03:24] <sss> what can i do next?
[03:24] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: do that then
[03:24] <jme> Flash is "open" like MS Word docs are open
[03:24] <lophyte> malachi: you still around?
[03:24] <Adam_G> RadiantFire: I have a similar issue
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> k
[03:24] <Warbo> sss: First, what are you trying to compile?
[03:25] <Adam_G> I'm currently in a xubuntu liveCD
[03:25] <dli> bluemoon, anyway, give it a nasty tweak:  sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-matplotlib_0.82-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:25] <Adam_G> I suppose my xubuntu grub is messed up- it stops in level 1.5
[03:25] <RadiantFire> ok, just hang on Adam_G, the first step is to find out what partition your /boot is on
[03:25] <snoops> Warbo they haven't released the specs for the player, so having to reverse engineer one isn't a lot of fun.. And it's completely inane sadly. No point trying to hold onto the player so desperately when they release it for free
[03:25] <azcazandco> any idea how i can get my keyboard back?
[03:25] <Warbo> jme: I should have said SWF. That is a freely documented open standard, just that not many people can be bothered to make an alternative player (Office costs money, so there is incentive there)
[03:25] <biscon> Savage: that buzilla page link I gave you.. in that there was a link to some forum grub guide thing.. try and follow that, reinstalling the bootloader. will teach you about grub config in the process
[03:25] <CarlFK> There used to be a 'terminal server client' to connect to windows terminal servers - where did it go?  and what is it's package name? (proably t-s)
[03:26] <dli> bluemoon, you can enable --force- options, but getting a stable repository is better
[03:26] <jme> well, that's what I meant, Warbo
[03:26] <Warbo> snoops: Why reverse engineer? It is an open format!
[03:26] <bluemoon> dli, thanks i havent used ubuntu in a while... been on gentoo
[03:26] <Adam_G> when I try to grub-install /dev/sda1, it says "could not find device for /boot: not fount or not a boot device"
[03:26] <jme> it can hardly be called free when there aren't other decent implementations
[03:26] <sss> warbo,xfce-utils-4.2.2.tar.gz
[03:26] <theoverload> help
[03:26] <Warbo> sss: OK, extract the package then go into it with a terminal
[03:26] <jme> !help
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[03:26] <dli> bluemoon, no point to use ubuntu then, for experienced users, I recommend debian
[03:26] <__mikem> jme so write your own implimentation
[03:26] <Warbo> !helpme
[03:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <Warbo> :)
[03:27] <jme> OK, I'll have it on your desk tomorrow, __mikem
[03:27] <bluemoon> dli, yeah i know but i didnt want to mess with all of the configurations :)
[03:27] <sss> warbo ,ive extracted it and  im in terminal now ,what next?
[03:27] <theoverload> i have a problem can speak german
[03:27] <jme> theoverload: #ubuntu-de
[03:27] <Warbo> jme: (wget http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/whateverthefilenameis.tar.gz :))
[03:27] <theoverload> ok
[03:27] <Warbo> sss: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[03:28] <lophyte> malachi: I've got it installed... seems to work fine
[03:28] <jme> is gnash any good?
[03:28] <sss> warbo ,whats that
[03:28] <Warbo> Gnash is very good
[03:28] <jme> hm, I might play around with it
[03:28] <theoverload> thanks
[03:28] <jme> flash on linux bugs me anyway
[03:28] <Warbo> sss: Type that. It will get all of the utilities you need for the next step
[03:28] <__mikem> flash in general bugs me
[03:28] <Warbo> jme: Make sure you compile in MP3 support (it is disabled by default for obvious reasons)
[03:28] <jme> I dunno, I sure like when it pops up ad windows
[03:28] <biscon> amen
[03:29] <bluemoon> dli, thanks for your time though
[03:29] <sss> warbo ,then?
[03:29] <jme> and full-screen ads for McGriddles are pretty cool
[03:29] <Jac1> I'm back... Smirnoff.. that is
[03:29] <Warbo> I like Flash for movies and even games, but I don't like the browser integration. It has become just like another image format
[03:29] <Warbo> sss: "./configure"
[03:30] <azcazandco> man I am gonna hit the sack
[03:30] <jme> yeah, I wish SVG had some wider support
[03:30] <__mikem> Warbo, I used to think flash driven websites were hip and cool. But then this wonderful thing happened, I grew up.
[03:30] <sss> warbo,type it directly?
[03:30] <azcazandco> thanks for making me feel welcome folks
[03:30] <__mikem> don't mention it
[03:30] <biscon> azcazandco: np
[03:30] <azcazandco> will be back
[03:30] <Warbo> sss: Yes (including the dot and slash)
[03:30] <azcazandco> keyboard or not
[03:30] <Jack_Smirnoff> Ok, booted livecd and now need to fix grub so sda3 will work
[03:30] <azcazandco> night
[03:30] <__mikem> good night
[03:30] <mitcheloc> i've got a sort-of-bug, where should i report it?
[03:30] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, open a terminal nad hit sudo grub
[03:31] <RadiantFire> you should now be at the grub shell
[03:31] <snoops> __mikem like youtube and google video.. they're pretty flash driven, considering their entire video streaming system is done via flash. :/
[03:31] <sss> user@ubuntu:~$ ./configure
[03:31] <sss> bash: ./configure:
[03:31] <Warbo> sss: ?
[03:31] <Warbo> sss: You seem to have left out the actual error bit :)
[03:31] <__mikem> snoops when I say flash driven, I mean where the entire site is big flash movie with all the bells and whistles