[07:38] <trijntje> Hi all, I was wondering if someone who knows a bit about the kernel could take a look at this bug:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/ubuntu-defaults-builder/+bug/1075876
[07:38] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1075876 in ubuntu-defaults-builder (Ubuntu Quantal) "ubuntu-defaults-builder: only quantal 64bit does not build" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[07:38] <trijntje> building a localised custom iso for quantal 64 bit fails with a dpkg error configuring the 3.5.0-17 kernel, and I have no
[12:49] <jackbrownhf> ?
[12:49] <jackbrownhf> nobody here ? never?
[16:38] <jackbrownhf> Which is the best format to compress audio video and get le lowest size possible without losing quality (or losing it in a reasonable way)


[00:28] <wxl> @tsimonq2: why don't we include *with* encryption without internet as one of our things?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: why don't we include *with* encryption without internet as one …], I dunno, add it
 I wrote it from what I could think of off the top of my head.
 I'll be up late tonight (I wouldn't be surprised if it turns into all night)
[00:42] <wxl> ok for those of you that don't have secure boot, there's two new ones: full disk/no encryption/BIOS/internet and full disk/no encryption/EFI/no secure boot/internet
 I just got home, but once I get settled, I'll go through the release announcements with a fine-toothed comb and add a bunch of images/GIFs
[00:42] <wxl> i've put out some calls for help on the secure boot ones
 I have a spare machine with secure boot
[00:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: is this not an issue anymore? the question about whether or not there were missing drivers? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1824910
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: is this not an issue anymore? the question about whether or not …], ...what's your question?
[00:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the inspiration to that was, i think, therry and their problematic install due to missing drivers. i later saw some suggestion that the new daily solved their issues.. can you confirm or deny?
 I still don't know what you mean. We don't have ubuntu-drivers in Calamares by default.
[00:46] <wxl> sigh
[00:47] <wxl> i think this bug is confused
 I have a secure boot laptop with NVIDIA graphics I'm digging out to test
[00:47] <wxl> ok great well let me know how the nvidia goes because that's the question
 Ok
[00:47] <wxl> this bug report reads like "i couldn't install drivers that are remotely available because i had no internet" and that's not a bug XD
[00:47] <kc2bez> I think it should be invalid. Proprietary drivers won't get included on the ISO.
[00:48] <kc2bez> I submitted the bug
[00:48] <wxl> i think having them in the iso makes a lot of sense
[00:48] <wxl> that said, we also have no way to install the proprietary drivers
[00:48] <kc2bez> If we can, yes.
[00:48] <wxl> (in the installer)
[00:48] <kc2bez> get them included that is
[00:48] <wxl> because of that, i think i'll make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-drivers-common/+bug/1815354 into a bug about THAT
[00:49] <wxl> er, i guess that one's the same problem, huh. i'll make a new bug.
[00:49] <guiverc> wxl, "Full disk install without encryption on a BIOS system with internet" was done via "Full disk install without encryption on a BIOS system"  (it didn't mention internet, so I didn't remove it..)
[00:49] <kc2bez> Right, if you have broadcom and nvidia no dice for sure
[00:49] <wxl> maybe select drivers should be included? certainly anything networking
[00:50] <wxl> guiverc: oh duh i'll specify that
[00:50] <wxl> so what does ubuntu do? what do they have on the iso? someone want to look into that?
[00:50] <guiverc> ditto "Full disk install without encryption on a EFI system without secure boot with internet"
[00:51] <kc2bez> They don't have it on the iso either.
 One big, big, BIG question: are there any legitimate release blockers, from people who have been poking and playing with the ISO?
[00:51] <kc2bez> Rik mentioned there was chatter on another IRC channel.
[01:03] <wxl> this should amke things more clear https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
[01:05] <kc2bez> guiverc: Are you doing the FDE on a bios system? I can do that if you want.
 Hi
 css as for stylesheet?
[01:06] <wxl> headed out talk later
 @HMollerCl [css as for stylesheet?], Yeah
[01:07] <guiverc> kc2bez, booting the system currently; but if you want to do it.. I can switch to efi+no.internet+encrypt
 I know some things from css
 what is needed?
[01:08] <kc2bez> guiverc: That would be good, my laptop is old enough that it doesn't have EFI for an option.
[01:12] <guiverc> :)
[01:28] <lynorian> Do we have the hashes for 19.04 finally yet?
[01:32] <wxl[m]> We might or we might not lynorian 😂
[01:45] <kc2bez> Luks on BIOS with no Internet passed. I will update the task.
[01:50] <kc2bez> Er. Checklist rather.
[04:05] <lynorian> is the only way to update from 18.10 to 19.04 do-release-upgrade on the command line
[04:38] <wxl> hey there!
 That worked.
 Lubuntu does not like restarting on my laptop.  Same hang as mentioned after install.
[04:41] <wxl> weird
 @DarinMiller [Lubuntu does not like restarting on my laptop.  Same hang as mentioned after ins …], Does the Beta work?
 What about 18.10? 18.04?
 :)
 No idea, this is the 1st time ever installing Lubuntu.  WXL wanted someone to test using EFI with/out encryption and internet.
[04:45] <wxl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/50451/error-fixing-recursive-fault-but-reboot-is-needed
 that a few days old....
 I suspect an NVidia driver install may fix the issue as this labtop is quite stubborn without it.
[04:48] <wxl> i agree with that notion
 OK. success with and without encryption using internet.  Rinse, repeat without internet?
[04:49] <wxl> yes please
 As expected, the lack of internet failed to detect my location.  It also defaulted to a different HD on the PC...  non-encrypt install in progress.
[04:54] <wxl> sounds good
[04:55] <wxl> @DarinMiller does ubiquity offer any sort of warning or complaint about the fact that it can't install proprietary/third party drivers if there's no internet?
 Yes, it had a warning "blah, blah, blah ... No internet.... blah, blah...." I will read it more carefully on next install.
[04:57] <wxl> that will suffice, actually
 non-encrypt EFI w/o internet successfully booted....
 home stretch...
 This computer does not satisfy some rec. reqs. for install.... install can continue, but some features disabled.  The sytem is not connected to the internet.
[05:01] <wxl> oh you mean with lubuntu?
 That's what the install says when not connected to the internet.
[05:02] <wxl> but i mean with lubuntu or some other flavor?
 Lubuntu
[05:02] <wxl> yeah i meant with other flavors
 OH, duh you said Ubiquity, not Calamares.  If i remember correctly, Ubuiquity skips the "updates during install" option if internet is not available.
[05:05] <wxl> but it doesn't offer a warning?
 Truth be told, I have not tried a non-internet install in while.
 I will check shortly....
[05:05] <wxl> thanks
 OK, encrypted without internet successly booted... now switching to Kubuntu 19.04 to test no internet...
 Lubuntu boot faster from USB than Kubuntu...
[05:11] <wxl> :)
[05:12] <wxl> thanks for the testing! want a thank you in the release notes? :)
 I also have to delete maybe-ubuity from the boot line to live boot this laptop under kubuntu... Calameres handles it without issue.  Actually, its the maybe menu that was slow, removing that option, boot time was similar.
[05:12] <wxl> i'm so glad not to have to deal with ubiquity anymore. what did maybe-ubiquity do?
 No need for release note mention for my sake...
[05:13] <wxl> ok :)
 It's the intermediate menu that gives option to go straight to install or live boot.  This laptop hates that option with specifying nomodeset or specifying the intel modeset...
 So If i skip internet, a radio button says "I don't want to connect to wifi network right now".... not really a warning as much as a default acknowledgement.
[05:15] <wxl> ah
[05:16] <wxl> hm curious
[05:16] <wxl> ok thanks again for the help
 I can still check the install 3rd party sw install and wifi hw, so that must be included in the ISO.  I assumed that was downloaded as I always choose the internet option.
[05:17] <wxl> oh interesting
 "Download updates while installing' is grayed out (but "checked"), but no actual "warning".
 should that checkbox be grayed out?
[05:18] <wxl> huh bizaarre
 When connected to the internet, it's active.
 Anything else before I head to bed?
[05:19] <wxl> nope that will do thanks!
 Alright, glad to help.  TTYL
[05:20] <wxl> sleep tight!
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[05:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL299c4832c18a: Update chaging new release versions] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL299c4832c18a
[06:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68
[06:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG2608d9269cb8: added 1825286 to disco known bugs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG2608d9269cb8
[06:18] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker in case you were still interested, no need to worry about those efi+secure boot tests
[12:13] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Disco Final] has been marked as ready
[12:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#988
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[13:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED5459d6839080: platform.disco -> platform.eoan] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED5459d6839080
 ^
 Eoan is the name
 Eoan Emu?
[15:09] <kc2bez> Eoan Eland XD
 We don't know the animal
 EAGLE XD
[15:09] <teward> proof or it's a lie
 Egret!
[15:10] <teward> oh that reminds me
[15:10] <teward> Simon: I have to apply some Zimbra upgrades this weekend, there'll be an hour where you'll be without mail.
 @teward [<teward> proof or it's a lie], See Launchpad
 @teward [<teward> Simon: I have to apply some Zimbra upgrades this weekend, there'll be a …], Mmkay
 Would you be able to do it on Sunday?
[15:10] <teward> then you're going to get the flood of SPAM!  *laughs evilly*
[15:10] <teward> why Sunday?
 EAGLE
 @teward [<teward> why Sunday?], Because I have to work all day
 @UniversalSuperBox [<reply to image>], HAHAHA
 EANGRY EAGLE
 Oh, it's definitely Eoan.
 @tsimonq2 [Would you be able to do it on Sunday?], c'on let teward search easter eggs.
 @HMollerCl [c'on let teward search easter eggs.], XD
 In an hour or so I'll enable CI builds for Eoan and axe builds for Cosmic
 After I publish the announcement ;)
[15:19] <teward> @tsimonq2 it'll be something like late Saturday evening lol
[15:19] <teward> so no worries there.
[15:19] <teward> in the interim...
[15:19] <teward> *accidentally sprinkles crap into all the repos on PHAB*
 People still use Zimbra?
 I had it in my mind they went out of business.
[15:19] <teward> you're behind the times they still exist xD
[15:20] <teward> Zimbra is owned by Synacore
[15:20] <teward> but the product is still Zimbra.
 I still use exchange primarily, with Kolab close behind.
[15:20] <teward> Synacor*
[15:20] <teward> yeah well I needed an easier-to-maintain hosted mail system that I can offer to those who would rather ME host their mail for them as SaaS than run it themselves or trust Google xD
[15:20] <teward> :P
 Makes sense!
 I've been really liking KolabNow for my non-corporate needs.
 It's a lil pricy though :(
 But after the MSoft data breach that left a number of my emails exposed, I had to switch
 Eeuuu!! Euon!!?? What happened to Eagle?
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan
[15:40] <teward> @EgenhoferJ Yeah, but I needed something heavy in Open Source world because that way it's not costly :P
 Makes perfect sense!
[15:59] <wxl[m]> Release day on my birthday is new
 heh
 coincidences are interesting aren't they wxl
[15:59] <kc2bez> Happy birthday wxl
 GOD I love that I have a local copy of the ISO mirrors xD
[16:01] <wxl[m]> I don't even like disco
 Happy birthday wxl!! Treat us now.
[16:04] <wxl[m]> Is that how it works? Give me my presents!
 *gives wxl a half-bottle of water*
 there's your present :P
 happy b-day wxl!
 *sets up a bot to send wxl birthday wishes every 2 mins*
 This is your present wxl.
[16:09]  * wxl[m] drinks teward's back wash
 lol
[16:12]  * kc2bez slides wxl an adult beverage.
 One more for you:
 *sets up a bot which helps wxl to reply to correct chats*
[16:13]  * teward slides wxl the Souls of the Damned. (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/898/913/451.jpg)
[16:17] <wxl[m]> https://lubuntu.me/disco-released
[16:19] <kc2bez> Lenny can't find that right now ;)
 Lenny is so cute♥
 oooo, Lenny!!! does we have Lenny for disco?
[16:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG59190ed7c6b7: August -> July.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG59190ed7c6b7
[16:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGa47d9160742c: Add the YAML.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGa47d9160742c
 Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! … https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/
 Wait your birtday is today wxl?
 Mine too! Happy birthday!
[16:51] <wxl[m]> No way! Happy birthday!
 Yeah!! rocking the ole 25 today
[16:52] <wxl[m]> Oh yeah we don't have A Dingo Lenny!
[16:52] <wxl[m]> I'm the answer to life the universe and everything
[16:56] <wxl[m]> We need a Lenny that's a dog doing a disco pose
[16:57]  * kc2bez is not it
 "Lenny that's a dog"
 wait.
 @EgenhoferJ [Mine too! Happy birthday!], Happy Natal Day to both of you!
 "We need a penguin that's a dog"
[16:57] <kc2bez> I have 0 artistic ability
[16:57] <tsimonq2> Upgraded to Eoan :D
[16:58] <kc2bez> Big difference? XD
[16:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA8a07c03602ba: Remove Cosmic, add Eoan.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA8a07c03602ba
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I have 0 artistic ability], same here, If I would have to do it I would do a dog house and say that the dogt is inside dancing disco.
[17:01] <tsimonq2> Cosmic nuked from the CI.
[17:01] <tsimonq2> Eoan bootstrapping.
 @HMollerCl [same here, If I would have to do it I would do a dog house and say that the dog …], Made me think of Snoopy dancing in the Peanuts Christmas special.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Eoan bootstrapping.], I think I have to be jealous.  … Can’t currently access my computers so I can’t join in the fun.
[17:05] <tsimonq2> haha :)
 :P
 Here is not updated to disco https://lubuntu.me/downloads/
 @HMollerCl [Here is not updated to disco https://lubuntu.me/downloads/], Uff, I can't right now :(
 wxl: ^
 this is the one? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/disco/release/ ? because the modified date is not from today.
 Yes
 what about torrents, do we have?
[17:23] <wxl> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/disco/release/lubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[17:43] <Schyken[m]> I'll start seeding 👍
 AYY
 :D
 @tsimonq2 [Lubuntu 19.04 (Disco Dingo) Released! … https://lubuntu.me/disco-released/], But in download section on lubuntu.me I see only disco beta builds.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [But in download section on lubuntu.me I see only disco beta builds.], I'm aware
 When will be the stable iso released?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [When will be the stable iso released?], It already has been
 When does it come on the download section?
 When someone edits it
 *facepalms*
[17:48] <kc2bez> Patience grasshopper.
[17:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#995
 Do i look like a grasshopper to you @kc2bez ?
[17:49] <kc2bez> No, sorry, it is a quote.
 Ohh! Lite then.
[17:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T68: provide a solution for installing third-party/proprietary drivers] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T68#996
[18:01] <wxl> //word// doesn't work for italics -- can someone change the //'s to *'s or _'s?
[18:01] <wxl> this should have been done. did we at least get social media done????
[18:02] <teward> simon == slacking so probably not :P
[18:02] <wxl> he did say he was "going to be up all night" though i din't hear heads or tail from him
 @wxl [<wxl> this should have been done. did we at least get social media done????], Twitter/Mastodon, Reddit done
[18:05] <kc2bez> Telegram too.
[18:07] <teward> @tsimonq2: Blog posts, slashes don't work in there.
[18:07] <teward> go fix it :P
[18:09] <wxl> UGH I HATE THIS BLOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[18:09] <wxl> i'm about ready to throw this
[18:09] <wxl> you owe me BIG time, @tsimonq2
 @wxl [<wxl> UGH I HATE THIS BLOGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG], LET'S FINALLY SWITCH IT TO NIKOLA ALREADY
 USE GHOOOOOST
[18:10] <teward> ***BURN IT ALL DOWN AND USE DJANGO!***
 no
 oh god please no
[18:10] <teward> ... that wasn't a suggestion.
[18:10] <teward> *lights the site on fire*
[18:10]  * teward is already on fire
 lol
[18:11]  * kc2bez throws teward into the ice cold lake so he is not on fire anymore
[18:12]  * teward boils away the lake because pouring water on the fire just makes it burn hotter
 IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING
 WE DIDN'T START THE FIIREEE
 NO WE DIDN'T LIGHT IT BUT WE TRIED TO FIGHT IT
[18:15] <wxl> oh well that's as good as it gets
[18:16] <wxl> shouldn't i remove 14.04 since it's april?
[18:17] <wxl> formatting is messed up at the top
[18:17] <wxl> not sure why
 i blame SImon :P
[18:18] <teward> I also blame Simon
[18:18] <teward> so does wxl :P
[18:19] <wxl> to be fair, i blame raphael who added all these darn add ons :/
[18:19] <wxl> but ultimately it's simon's fault, so yeah, simon
[18:19] <wxl> @tsimonq2: remove 14.04 because unsupported, right????
 yes
[18:20] <teward> i haven't seen a 14.04 EOL announcement yet :P  *shot*
 don't talk to Simon
 yes
 do it
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: remove 14.04 because unsupported, right????], Yes
 Mac versions????
[18:20]  * wxl slaps @HMollerCl
[18:21]  * teward slaps everyone
 jaja, there are links for mac version in 14.04!!!!
[18:22] <wxl> omg wtf yeah and some of the links are like cdimage.u.c/../xenial/../..14.04.1..
[18:22] <wxl> people are smoking some stuff
[18:22] <wxl> SIMON
 WHAT
 XD
 Ok
 No
 I blame Raf
 STOP SMOKING THAT CRACK SIMON ;p
 But it's simon's fault
 I blame @UniversalSuperBox for reasons 😛
 good thing is thar there are no versions for amiga.
[18:23] <wxl> SIMON go fix the emphasis on the release ntoes (//) and the alignment at the top of the downloads page
 Mac64 version for Intel Macs, 2006 and beyond. After 14.04, use 64-bit version.
 @tsimonq2 let me know when the downloads page is updated. Will ya?
 it is
 I can't do anything for the next three hours
 You guys know that XD
 @HMollerCl [it is], Ohh yeah. Thanks! Checked just now.
[18:27] <apt-ghetto> Would it help, if I upload the release notes fix to the BLOG repo?
 @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Would it help, if I upload the release notes fix to the BLOG repo?], Actually, yes
[18:28] <apt-ghetto> Ok, then I will start the work *now*
 @tsimonq2 [Twitter/Mastodon, Reddit done], You guys also have an instagram page. Not updated since over an year.
[18:28] <lynorian> we do?
 Yup! Ask @tsimonq2
[18:31] <wxl> @tsimonq2: he doesn't have access though does he? and i have no way to land it
[18:32] <apt-ghetto> And teward? Before he burns down?
 its already on fire heh
[18:41] <wxl> the front page is all 18.10 too :/
[18:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: we need a release announcement for 16.04.6. i'm going to link to it on the downloads page at https://lubuntu.me/xenial-6-released/
[18:51] <wxl> can someone confirm the magnet link
[18:51] <wxl> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:88c3a3917cf34385e08ab1f1c88c8c80fc8d0188&dn=lubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3A6969%2Fannounce
[18:53] <apt-ghetto> magnet link works
[18:56] <wxl> ugh nothing in the release notes about 32 bit
[19:02] <apt-ghetto> On downloads page: The 19.04 content should be in <div class="xbox"> instead of <div class="entry-content">
[19:03] <wxl> supposedly it is
[19:04] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#1YDdOAPkDyPz85nWPUOfrA
[19:04] <wxl> what's weirder is that if i close the div on 9 all the text gets shifted right
[19:04] <wxl> left, sorry
[19:07] <Schyken[m]> Do any of you know of a good mobile torrent client for Android? I'd like to seed the torrent from a few different networks if possible.
[19:12] <wxl> there
[19:12] <wxl> took out the xboxes around the buttons and xboxed the whole thing
[19:13] <wxl> makes the lts buttons weird tho
[19:15] <wxl> fixed
 https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/1118808407635574784?s=19 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[19:20] <kc2bez> Disco with the Dingo of course! XD
 Oh. My. Gawd. https://twitter.com/ubuntu/status/1118834229893267462?s=19
[19:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T49: 19.04 Release Notes] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T49#1003
[19:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T1: Lubuntu 19.04] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1#1006
[19:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T66: make new release checklist] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T66#1008
 *assigns more work to wxl*
[19:46]  * wxl glowers at @teward001
[19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T66: make new release checklist] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T66#1011
[19:47] <wxl> i just spent I DON"T KNOW HOW LONG working on this god forsaken blog
[19:47] <wxl> do NOT mess with me
 no but this is GOOD work
 the task: go get a drink of water 😛
 so you don't explode/overheat :P
[19:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T66: make new release checklist] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T66#1013
 Make sure your changes are in Markdown too, so I don't overwrite them
[19:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T66: make new release checklist] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T66#1016
[19:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T66: make new release checklist] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T66#1018
[21:10] <tsimonq2> OHAI
[21:10] <tsimonq2> I HAVE RETURNED
[21:11] <kc2bez> \o/
[21:12] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:12] <tsimonq2> so
[21:12] <tsimonq2> I need to leave in like 10 mins
[21:12] <tsimonq2> But for now...
[21:12] <tsimonq2> I'll get branches set up
[21:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA8d6ea96d589b: Change the default branch.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA8d6ea96d589b
[21:36] <tsimonq2> Branches made for most of the branches.
[21:37] <tsimonq2> I don't think the schroot tarballs are set up yet on prod. :P
[21:37] <tsimonq2> (Therefore, builds won't work for now.)
[21:37] <tsimonq2> I'll become concerned if our Eoan builds keep disappearing into /dev/null even after the archive begins bootstrapping.
[21:37] <tsimonq2> Anyway, be back in a while.
[22:10] <wxl> teward: http server or imgur for media on the telegram/irc bridge? not sure hot the server works but here's the relevant bit in the configs https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/blob/1bf8226d56897977842a096b18235f89a6513aca/src/config.defaults.js#L28 and here's info on imgur https://github.com/FruitieX/teleirc/blob/develop/extras/Imgur_README.md
[22:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL116a69a1da79: Remove 32 bit hash checking paragraphs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL116a69a1da79
[23:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2289fd32832f: Add hashes for 19.04] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2289fd32832f


[01:40] <zhanx> ok can't seem to get folders to share using lxle
[01:41] <Unit193> Generally you should seek support in #lxle, or ##lxle, but you can try setting up samba using...
[01:41] <Unit193> !samba
[01:41] <zhanx> Unit193, think i tweaked my samba config too much
[10:30] <zleap> hi
[10:30] <thedoctar> hi]
[10:31] <zleap> hows you
[10:31] <thedoctar> I am fine
[10:31] <thedoctar> how are you?
[10:37] <zleap> i am good
[10:37] <zleap> i am sorting some stuff out to try and fix a windows computer on thursday
[10:38] <zleap> easy solution = usb key with lubuntu on
[10:39] <zleap> however I need to figure out why norton (its subscription has run out) is blocking everything
[10:41] <thedoctar> norton antivirus?
[10:42] <thedoctar> what do you mean blocking everything?
[10:42] <thedoctar> in any case, this question isn't really realted to lubuntu
[10:43] <thedoctar> if norton isn't behaving as you want, why not just disable it?
[11:23] <zleap> i am downloading useful windows software for a computer fix
[11:23] <zleap> e.g free software, gnu4win etc
[11:23] <Unit193> I think you may have mixed your channels up.
[11:24] <zleap> no as I am hoping to get them to move to lubuntu
[11:24] <zleap> but need a way of making windows so it has the tools tht are remotely useful for fixingf stuff in the shorter term
[11:25] <Unit193> Still, should be ##windows for support, or general talk in #lubuntu-offtopic.  This is the Lubuntu support channel.
[11:25] <zleap> ok sorry
[11:26] <zleap> i will find oujt what hardware they have and then cross reference that with ubuntu to make sure stuff is supported
[11:26] <Unit193> LiveCD could help there too of course.
[11:27] <zleap> yeah
[11:27] <Unit193> If for nothing else than to get some good lshw output.
[11:27] <zleap> is lshw-gtk included on the live cd
[11:27]  * zleap also has the opendiagnostics cd,  with a useful tool to remove windows passwords on :)
[11:28] <Unit193> Nope, just lshw.
[11:28] <zleap> ok
[11:29] <zleap> i think their computer is a few years old,  so it should run Lubuntu nicely
[11:30] <zleap> providing all the hardware works with it of course and or I can get that running, i think their windows install could be really screwed up thanks to norton if it won't let them do anything
[11:32] <zleap> hi hyperair
[11:32] <hyperair> hi
[12:56] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:56] <ShapeShifter499> I'm just wondering if I hit the up arrow key (or any other key for that matter) during a scp transfer, does that do anything to the file in transit?
[13:14] <phillw> ShapeShifter499: nope
[13:14] <phillw> Ctrl-C will cancel it.. so don't do that one!
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> phillw, other channel helped me figure it out, I knew ctrl-c canceled and the other ctrl ones but I had no idea what happened to a character if I accidentally typed it into the window of a running program
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> ##linux
[13:16] <ShapeShifter499> *terminal window of a running program
[13:16] <phillw> okies, glad it got answered :)
[15:04] <vn151502510> hi! How can I re-enable showing a notification about network connections?
[15:07] <vn151502510> I clicked on "never show again" in xfce4-notifyd, now I need it back
[15:34] <Lasokki> dear #lubuntu, why am I closing terminal over and over again, when typing
[15:34] <Lasokki> also, why am I pasteing text over and over again
[15:34] <Lasokki> I hate touchpads :I
[15:41] <Lasokki> ah, two finger tap pops up the menu
[15:42] <Lasokki> ok, this is the worst gesture ever
[15:50] <Lasokki> well, let's hope that setting PalmDetect to 1 helps
[15:50] <Lasokki> I wonder why default isn't 1?


[01:02] <wrst> howdy FredN
[01:23] <FredN> howdy wrst
[01:25] <wrst> all going well FredN?
[01:33] <FredN> yes thanks
[01:33] <FredN> and you?
[01:35] <wrst> yep doing well, actually have a few moments of free time and wasting them all wondering what I should be doing with it :)
[01:40] <FredN> haha happens to me everyday
[01:55] <wrst> well guess its good to have multiple interest :)
[02:10] <cyberanger> wrst: agreed, learn how to make your own cell phone tower, watch the bbc from the us, research good security practices for device security
[02:10] <cyberanger> great to diversify
[02:10] <cyberanger> ;-)
[02:20] <wrst> oh me you will get me on device security went back to google android on my nexus 5
[02:20] <wrst> havimg trouble with wifi on cm
[02:29] <cyberanger> could be worse
[02:40] <wrst> oh yeah the difference in CM and stock android on the N5 are not much some of the little tweaks I like
[02:46] <wrst> howdy Omnifrog
[02:46] <Omnifrog> hiya wrst
[02:46] <wrst> how are you doing?
[02:47] <Omnifrog> I am covered with poison oak/ivy/sumac rashes >_>
[02:49] <Omnifrog> my efforts to beat the spring growth by working on the fence project failed to prevent this infection of the chemical kind :(
[02:49] <wrst> Omnifrog: :( not cool
[02:50] <Omnifrog> I generally get some level of contamination every year but this is the worst ever
[02:50] <wrst> hard to beleive that is the case when we just had most of the snow/ice melt away today
[02:50] <wrst> that stinks
[02:50] <Omnifrog> I know, right!
[02:51] <Omnifrog> I didn't think there was any risk as there are no leaves
[02:52] <wrst> I never would have imagined there would have been
[02:52] <Omnifrog> so I didn't bother with my usual protection of tube socks with the toes cut off
[02:52] <Omnifrog> but sadly this is not the case
[02:53] <wrst> how bad does it bother you?
[02:53] <Omnifrog> what ever I came in contact with is driving me nuts
[02:53] <Omnifrog> my arms are covered in bumps and welts
[02:55] <Omnifrog> I have paper towels layed out on my desk to absorb the ... icky discharge?
[02:55] <Omnifrog> and to prevent the spread of the poison oils
[02:55] <Omnifrog> so gross '
[02:57] <wrst> goodness... do you have to yell unclean, unclean when you get close to others? :)
[02:58] <Omnifrog> haha
[02:58] <Omnifrog> I do
[02:58] <wrst> but really that's some nasty stuff to have I guess maybe its better than having it when its hot outside. not that there is ever a good time to have it
[02:59] <Omnifrog> when I hugged my son goodnight I gave him a long distance pat
[03:00] <Omnifrog> well, I gotta be back out there tomorrow but I'll be wearing lots of socks
[03:00] <Omnifrog> it'll be cold though so I'mthankfull for that
[03:13] <wrst> socks won't be so bad with it being cold :)
[03:14] <wrst> Omnifrog:  hope you get to feeling better soon I think I'm going to check out for the night
[03:19] <Omnifrog> thanks wrst
[03:19] <Omnifrog> I don't feel too bad
[03:19] <Omnifrog> I'm somewhat used to the trials and tribulations of the forest
[15:24] <wrst> good morning or time appropriate greeting :) elacheche
[15:35] <cyberanger> greetings wrst is time appropriate
[15:46] <wrst> cyberanger: but its not as fun :)
[15:47] <wrst> and good morning :D
[15:50] <cyberanger> greetings wrst
[15:50] <wrst> all going well?
[15:55] <cyberanger> going well
[15:55] <cyberanger> morning elacheche
[15:56] <cyberanger> guess it's afternoon there
[16:06] <elacheche> hey wrst cyberanger :)
[16:06] <elacheche> yep it's afternoon :)
[16:06] <elacheche> how are you guys?
[16:09] <wrst> doing well elacheche, and you?
[16:10] <elacheche> Good :) thx
[16:21] <elacheche> wrst, are planning to host an UGJ this year?
[16:23] <wrst> cool I just threw 14.04 on a machine and have been trying it out. not bad
[16:24] <elacheche> I didn't try it yet.. Maybe I'll try it with the Team during UGJ 14.04


[10:32] <gopi> when I try to install ZopeInterface, Iam getting .... Dependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/zope.interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.c:73: error: previous declaration of SpecType was here
[10:32] <gopi> error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1
[10:32] <mikebot> Managu, hehe okay
[10:32] <NoelJB> it makes no sense to pull in everything just to install ntpd.
[10:32] <Makura> And the command to unmount?
[10:32] <CookyPuss> mikeazorin, what does expose do?
[10:32] <gopi> what to do ?
[10:32] <Goldfisch> Makura: umount
[10:32] <Makura> just unmount /mnt/point ?
[10:32] <Makura> *umount
[10:32] <tristanmike> we2by_, is it fixable with your monitor's controls ?
[10:32] <Makura> Goldfisch: Okay.
[10:32] <Managu> makura: right
[10:33] <thegladiator> gopi, when sleep ?
[10:33] <joevandyk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWiredNetworkCards is fairly sparse :(
[10:33] <Makura> Goldfisch, Managu, FlannelKing, CookyPuss:  Thanks for the help. =
[10:33] <bside> Managu, how about 5.1 speakers on an via 82xx sound card ?
[10:33] <joevandyk> anyone know if LINKSYS EG1032 (gigabit nic) works  on ubuntu?
[10:34] <Managu> bside: not sure I can help you there.  I'm struggling with sound myself
[10:34] <bpuccio> what file (is it in /var/cache/apt some place?) has the list of all installed packages for a system?
[10:34] <benoitc> odes breezy cd contain madwifi drivers ?
[10:34] <binarydigit> no
[10:35] <Martolod> nobody know ?!
[10:35] <CookyPuss> Managu, whats your sound problem?
[10:36] <benoitc> hum k
[10:36] <Managu> CookyPuss, I want to run 2 programs with sound at the same time
[10:36] <CookyPuss> Managu, ahh,i never got that to work either
[10:36] <we2by_> I  just installed the ati drivers and my screen is strechjed
[10:36] <tolaware> hello everybody
[10:36] <tristanmike> we2by_, is it fixable with your monitor's controls ?
[10:37] <william> how do i kill frozen tasks
[10:37] <we2by_> my monitor controls??
[10:37] <FlannelKing> Martolod: I'd ask in the forums, they might know.
[10:37] <we2by_> I'm on a laptop here
[10:37] <Managu> CookyPuss: thanks anyways :-)
[10:37] <Goldfisch> I use "dpkg --get-selections > /my_package_list.txt" as a way to capture that information.
[10:37] <tristanmike> we2by_, oh, i don't know
[10:37] <tristanmike> !tell we2by_ about fixres
[10:37] <Goldfisch> william: kill -9 <pid>
[10:37] <william> where can i get the PID
[10:37] <CookyPuss> william, ps aux
[10:37] <Goldfisch> william: ps -ef
[10:38] <gopi> hurray !!
[10:38] <devlin-7> resolution fixed thanks guys
[10:38] <cwillu> william:  pkill <name> works too
[10:38] <goose> i <3 dapper 4
[10:38] <william> thanks cwill!
[10:38] <goose> and xgl =D
[10:38] <william> much easier
[10:38] <NegativeSpace> Any ideas what Firefox won't let me save an image?
[10:39] <tristanmike> goose, is your "windows" key mapped ?
[10:39] <CookyPuss> william, also sudo killall programname
[10:39] <mikebot> and is there a way i can make a folder, and everything inside it writable, without going to the preferences of each individual file?
[10:39] <goose> nope
[10:39] <Martolod> FlannelKing, yes i've done that but there aren't answer for the while yet
[10:39] <tristanmike> goose, for the xlg effects ?
[10:39] <gopi> To install Freevo, run 'python setup.py install' as root.  Atlast it was successfull ! So now how to start it ?
[10:39] <khxxm> what is a good compile program on this linux ?
[10:39] <CookyPuss> mikebot, sudo chmod 777 /dir/name
[10:39] <goose> tristanmike: yea i haven't gotten the magnify to work
[10:39] <mikebot> CookyPuss, thanks
[10:39] <Goldfisch> mikebot: Add "-R" to chmodd to make it recurse.
[10:39] <goose> tristanmike: but everything else works
[10:39] <tristanmike> goose, cool
[10:40] <goose> tristanmike: i probably have to do a setkeycode or something
[10:40] <SAM_theman> yo
[10:40] <milamber> lo there
[10:40] <SAM_theman> little help here my sound isn't working and i am getting this
[10:40] <Goldfisch> mikebot: Just be careful where you use that command. Someone earlier screwed up a system by putting "sudo" in front of that and applying to "/"
[10:40] <SAM_theman> configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[10:40] <FlannelKing> Martolod: no idea then,  it's probably just an oversight.  No idea when the people who would/might know would be on IRC.
[10:40] <Martolod> ok thank you
[10:41] <milamber> questin any suggestion for an binary downloader, ive used newsbin en liked the gui and options, is there some alike for linux/ubuntu
[10:41] <mikebot> Goldfisch, hehe okay..what does -R do?
[10:41] <CookyPuss> milamber, wget ?
[10:41] <Goldfisch> mikebot: Recurse through subdirectories.
[10:41] <milamber> if possible one that supports nzb files :D
[10:41] <paxmaster> how would i install xmmsbar
[10:41] <CookyPuss> milamber, you just want a file downloader ?
[10:41] <paxmaster> i have the sources
[10:41] <mikeazorin> what application for linux mimics apple's expose?
[10:41] <CookyPuss> paxmaster, xmms for gnome-panel ?
[10:42] <paxmaster> no
[10:42] <LinuxMonkey> milamber yeah
[10:42] <mikebot> Goldfisch, ah thanks
[10:42] <milamber> binaries, no p2p tool
[10:42] <mikebot> Goldfisch, this will do it for sub directories too, right? not just files?
[10:42] <CookyPuss> milamber, wget
[10:42] <Goldfisch> mikebot: Yeah. You can read the gory details on "man chmod"
[10:42] <t1nkkar1> how the hek am i supposed to get rosegarden4 to work o ubuntu 5.10...
[10:42] <milamber> cookypuss wget sup[ports nzb files ?
[10:42] <mikebot> Goldfisch, okay, thanks
[10:43] <CookyPuss> milamber, it supports any file type
[10:43] <LinuxMonkey> http://docs.newzbin.com/Newzbin:NZB_Guide
[10:43] <paxmaster> XMMS Bar for SuperKaramba
[10:43] <CookyPuss> paxmaster, /join #kubuntu
[10:43] <LinuxMonkey> milamber look under section Linux/Unix Clients :)
[10:43] <milamber> cookypuss binaries /newsgroups
[10:43] <SAM_theman> were can i find this
[10:43] <SAM_theman> GAIM_SRC_DIR/plugins
[10:44] <CookyPuss> milamber, i'm not sure what you are trying to do, but if you want to download files, use wget
[10:44] <Mosi> Does anyone know much about XMMS?
[10:44] <SAM_theman> yes
[10:44] <SAM_theman> i do
[10:44] <SAM_theman> my dad uses it every day
[10:44] <SAM_theman> before he goes to sleep he plays it
[10:44] <jaggy> hi.. is there an rc.local type file?
[10:44] <milamber> thnx linuxmonkey
[10:45] <milamber> cookypuss read in newsgroups, look foor binaries to download
[10:45] <jessica__> hello
[10:45] <Gerwin538> hi all
[10:45] <thegladiator> gopi, Hi
[10:45] <jaggy> I want to put an echo > /proc setting somewhere but it's better to know of the system init script thing for such little settings than to make my own I think
[10:45] <gopi> hi
[10:45] <FlannelKing> mikeazorin: you'll have to tell us what expose does.
[10:45] <Gerwin538> i've got a problem booting ubuntu, does anyone have time to help me ?
[10:45] <thegladiator> gopi, when sleep ?
[10:45] <thegladiator> is it workin now ?
[10:45] <robertj> ok weirdness, I put a Radeon in my machine and quake3, which was working fine, reports faster fps but all input is delayed by almost a second
[10:45] <gopi> thegladiator: soon... u?
[10:46] <thegladiator> 30 mts...
[10:46] <LinuxMonkey> milamber Linux/Unix Clients for NZB are:nget v0.25 NZBGet v0.1 KLibido <IP_ADDRESS> nzbperl 0.6.2 hellanzb v0.5
[10:46] <Mosi> SAM_theman: so i'm trying to play an MP3 with it, and it gives me the error Couldn't Open Audio
[10:46] <thegladiator> itz working ?
[10:46] <milamber> thnx thnx
[10:46] <Mosi> i checked the permissions on the file, but i think it means my sound card
[10:46] <davidX-> can anyone suggest a decent gui ftp client?
[10:46] <NegativeSpace> Does anyone here use the FTB desklets?
[10:46] <bpo88reloaded> hi
[10:46] <FlannelKing> Gerwin538: it's best to just ask the question, instead of asking to ask.
[10:46] <CookyPuss> davidX-, gftp
[10:46] <thegladiator> davidX-, konqeror :)
[10:46] <FlannelKing> Gerwin538: or, in your case, describe the problem.
[10:46] <karen_> I installed the nvidia driver but it's not working, any ideas?
[10:47] <Gerwin538> ok here it comes:
[10:47] <davidX-> thanks :)
[10:47] <Gerwin538> Uncompressing Linux.....
[10:47] <Gerwin538> Ok, booting the kernel
[10:47] <Gerwin538> Loading, please wait....
[10:47] <Gerwin538> mount: mounting /dev/hdb1 on /root failed: Invalid argument
[10:47] <Gerwin538> mount: mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory
[10:47] <Gerwin538> mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory
[10:47] <Gerwin538> target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[10:47] <Gerwin538> BusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20040623-1ubuntu22) Built-in Shell (ash)
[10:47] <Gerwin538> Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands
[10:47] <Gerwin538> /bin/sh: can't acces tty; job control turned off
[10:47] <Goldfisch> !tell Gerwin538 about pastebin
[10:47] <Gerwin538> #
[10:47] <HappyFool> man
[10:47] <PieR> karen: edit xorg.conf and change "nv" to "nvidia" in the device section
[10:47] <robertj> fglrx is what I want right?
[10:48] <Gerwin538> that's what i see when i want to boot ubuntu...
[10:48] <karen_> why won't my nvidia driver work, I know I have the right one
[10:48] <JumpMast3r> any body have any success upgrading a server from standard ubuntu server to ubuntu amd64 from CD, my predecessor didn't understand the difference... he installed the standard ubuntu on a dual chip dual core opteron server.
[10:49] <per_> !<installling>
[10:49] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, per_
[10:49] <JumpMast3r> so i'm wondering how painful it is to do an upgrade without disturbing the server services
[10:49] <per_> !<installing>
[10:49] <ubotu> per_: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:50] <NegativeSpace> Does anyone here use the FTB desklets?
[10:50] <CookyPuss> !dmix
[10:50] <ubotu> dmix is probably first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:53] <mikebot> is there any other way besides wine to run .exe's?
[10:53] <madewokherd> dosbox if they're dos programs
[10:53] <Blissex> mikebot: several, but depends on what you want to do.
[10:53] <Mosi> mikebot: qemu?
[10:54] <mikebot> Mosi, i don't know what that is
[10:54] <_Felix> hola
[10:54] <mikebot> i have this program for school, and its an exe that loads form a bunch of txts
[10:54] <mikebot> and wine doesn't run it for some reason
[10:54] <Mosi> !tell mikebot about qemu
[10:54] <_Felix> it runs on Windows??
[10:55] <mikebot> Mosi, thanks
[10:55] <mikebot> _Felix, yes
[10:55] <Mosi> mikebot: np
[10:55] <_Felix> win32 api?
[10:55] <mikebot> _Felix, i don't know
[10:55] <_Felix> ^^
[10:55] <tatters> how would I give apache wtie acess to  a folder called storage  chmod u+rw /var/www/storage   ?
[10:55] <karen_> can anyone help me with Nvidia
[10:55] <_Felix> what's the prob exactly?
[10:56] <Mosi> Does anyone know where to get an MP3 plugin for XMMS that will work on PPC?
[10:56] <_Felix> Can anyone help me with SM56?
[10:56] <Makura> Could I get the entire 'mount' command for Terminal again?
[10:56] <karen_> _Felix, you talkin' to me?
[10:56] <Goldfisch> tatters: Possibly, apache is running under user account www-data. So, you would chown www-data /var/www/storage
[10:56] <_Felix> i'm talking to more people. :)
[10:56] <_Felix> you too
[10:56] <_Felix> is there a prob with that? ^^
[10:57] <joevandyk> Stupid networking question: if a 100mbps device is hooked up to a gigabit ethernet network, it won't slow all the traffic down, right?
[10:57] <mikebot> why wouldn't wine run it if it is just an exe?
[10:57] <LjL> !tell Makura about mountiso
[10:57] <tatters> how can i find a list of all users, I am in a shell and user only show who logged in
[10:57] <_Felix> mikebot: send me what you want to run
[10:57] <Makura> LjL: Thank you. =]
[10:57] <Mosi> tatters: cat /etc/passwd :P
[10:57] <mikebot> _Felix, okay, one moment
[10:57] <karen_> _Felix, no, lol, my problem is I used synaptic to download nvidia driver and it's not working, I know I have the right one
[10:58] <_Felix> which card?
[10:58] <karen_> _Felix, Geforce4 MX
[10:58] <_Felix> me to
[10:58] <_Felix> *too
[10:58] <_Felix> 440?
[10:58] <mikebot> _Felix, it's a folder size 2.5 mb--it's already unzipped
[10:59] <_Felix> huh
[10:59] <_Felix> i've got 56K...
[10:59] <oldbear> \join #ubuntu+1
[10:59] <karen_> _Felix, I don't know... I just wanna know how to fix it
[10:59] <_Felix> mikebot: what is it exactly?
[10:59] <ubuntu> hello
[10:59] <_Felix> You don't know what card you have?
[10:59] <mikebot> _Felix, it's a program some professor at ucla made to run logic problems...you do derivations on it etc.
[10:59] <_Felix> GeForce MX 440 or?
[10:59] <kaede> hello
[10:59] <mikebot> in it rather
[11:00] <karen_> _Felix, I don't know if it's 440, how do I tell?
[11:00] <ubuntu> I need help !!!
[11:00] <LjL> !tell ubuntu about helpme
[11:00] <_Felix> look in system?
[11:01] <mikebot> _Felix, http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/
[11:02] <ubuntu> I can't install a router dlink Di-524 in linux someone can help me
[11:02] <nige> what is happening?
[11:02] <ubuntu> is a wireless router
[11:02] <mikebot> _Felix, or here might have been better: http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[11:02] <CookyPuss> !voip
[11:02] <ubotu> CookyPuss: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:02] <CookyPuss> what are some good free voip programs, NOT SKYPE
[11:03] <ubuntu> i search oer the internet and i can't find  any clue about....
[11:03] <spiritz> CookyPuss: openwengo cvs
[11:04] <mikebot> _Felix, ?
[11:05] <LjL> really only gnomemeeting, kphone and ohphone are voip clients in that list
[11:05] <marlun> What was the name of the file I could edit and add a IP and name of a computer on my network so I can ssh to it using the name instead of the IP?
[11:05] <LjL> marlun: /etc/host i suppose
[11:05] <LjL> hosts
[11:06] <_Felix> karen_?
[11:06] <marlun> LjL: yes, thanks! =)
[11:06] <karen_> _Felix, it's a Gforce 4 nforce
[11:06] <mikebot> can someone help me get this program running in ubuntu?: http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[11:06] <_Felix> huh
[11:06] <_Felix> so it's new...
[11:06] <_Felix> Wine beats XP in 65 tests.
[11:07] <Unununium> Where can I find a package containing static libc?
[11:07] <lusepuster> Hi there - I've been searching Google (perhaps not patiently enough, but...) and couldn't quite figure: Is there a how-to to run an existing windows install on a seperate partition as a guest system in linux? Like Mac-On-Linux does?
[11:07] <_Felix> mike: so, do you have win too?
[11:07] <_Felix> karen_: explain the problem again, please
[11:08] <mikebot> _Felix, yeah, i have windows too
[11:08] <thegladiator> does anyone know the key binding for next in amarok ?
[11:08] <karen_> _Felix, I'm trying to get the correct driver for this, I thought I had the right one but, now I'm not sure.
[11:08] <LjL> lusepuster: that's usually not really possible (almost) if you intend to also boot that partition from bare hardware
[11:08] <vampierre> hello ! german speaking ubuntu user here ?? i need help to set my inet
[11:08] <thegladiator> "next song i.e"
[11:08] <_Felix> Oh
[11:08] <LjL> !de
[11:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[11:08] <vampierre> Thank You
[11:09] <Klohunt> I am trying to install the Java Runtime Enviornment, and im very new to Linux :( I downloaded the self extracting file jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin , but dont know what to do with it
[11:09] <NoelJB> ompaul: FWIW, the dependency comes from debian, and is only being passed along by Ubuntu.  Still looking to see *why* debian's ntp packages require perl.  other distros do not.
[11:09] <LjL> !tell Klohunt about java
[11:09] <LjL> !tell Klohunt about javadebs
[11:09] <_Felix> karen_: Well,
[11:09] <montbazin> CHAT
[11:09] <ompaul> NoelJB, interesting
[11:09] <_Felix> what's the problem with screen?
[11:09] <Klohunt> Thanks
[11:10] <HappyFool> NoelJB: perl is needed for of debconf. using 'apt-cache rdepends' is fairly useful in tracing dependencies
[11:10] <s|k> hrm
[11:10] <_Felix> people, think i'll go to sleep
[11:10] <karen_> _Felix, screen res is not working, display is very jerky.  I've done this before, but I don't remember which one it is...
[11:10] <montbazin> CHAT
[11:11] <_Felix> try all?
[11:11] <LjL> montbazin: what are you trying to do?
[11:11] <_Felix> mine worked automaticly after ubuntu installation
[11:11] <_Felix> no upgradeing... but it's geforce mx 440
[11:11] <montbazin> sorry i'm new to this list and I am just trying to find out how it works
[11:11] <mikeazorin> installing kdelibs for some kde games on ubuntu, computer completely frozen
[11:11] <mikeazorin> why?
[11:11] <LjL> montbazin: well, i can tell you that typing "CHAT" in the channel won't do anything ;)
[11:11] <NoelJB> HappyFool: the specific ntp package pulling it in is http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/ntp rather than others, and the file list doesn't imply why.  Perhaps you're right that it is necessary for a configuration script.
[11:12] <Unununium> Err, any clues on the libc.a thing?  I have a /usr/lib32/nptl/libc.a but I need a 64-bit one.
[11:12] <HappyFool> NoelJB: oh, right, -- didn't see that perl-modules dependency
[11:12] <Jemt> !xgl
[11:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:12] <montbazin> Thanks LjL I'm glad you saw me, am I doing somethig wrong ?
[11:12] <lusepuster> Bump - how do I, if possible, run an existing WinXP install as a guest system in Breezy?
[11:13] <SAM_theman> yo i keep on getting this error
[11:13] <SAM_theman> configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../..
[11:13] <SAM_theman> whenever i try to compile somthing
[11:13] <Unununium> !static libc
[11:13] <ubotu> Unununium: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:13] <mikebot> can someone help me get this program running in ubuntu?: http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[11:13] <LjL> montbazin: well yes and no... i was just wondering why you kept typing CHAT. if you had kept typing it i suppose you might have been kicked sooner or later
[11:14] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Ping?
[11:14] <cwillu> hey hey
[11:14] <suryam> ho ho
[11:14] <Klohunt> eno: Couldn't find package java-package    , but I have the multivers repos enabled
[11:14] <montbazin> I thougt it was the way to enter to this list
[11:14] <cwillu> hee hee
[11:15] <LjL> Klohunt: try "sudo apt-get update". the package is there
[11:15] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  one sec, waiting for my other machine to become responsive
[11:15] <suryam> hum hum
[11:16] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Just went to see a play
[11:16] <avar> are there screenshots of the default dapper theme somewhere?
[11:16] <Celestianpower> :)
[11:16] <Klohunt> LjL: thanks, but I still get that error
[11:17] <LjL> Klohunt: are you *sure* you have multivere enabled?
[11:17] <lusepuster> avar, almost axactly the same as the default breezy, at least until now
[11:17] <Klohunt> I now have all of the repositories enabled
[11:17] <LjL> Klohunt: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[11:17] <avar> mm, I heard something about a new theme
[11:18] <cwillu> ya, sorry about last night;  got home (2am) fell right asleep
[11:18] <avar> do the powerpc devs hang out in some specific place?
[11:18] <Unununium> ... anyone?  I'm having zero luck finding an x86_64-compiled statically-linked glibc packaged as a .deb .
[11:18] <Unununium> (x86_64-targeted, rather)
[11:19] <Celestianpower> cwillu: No problem
[11:19] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Others have been working on it all afternoon to no avail
[11:19] <gleesond> does anyone know about s/pdif and soundmax drivers
[11:19] <Klohunt> LjL: http://pastebin.com/596994  , thanks for your help
[11:19] <suryam> woww! that Xgl looks soo cool
[11:19] <NoelJB> HappyFool: speaking of dpkg ... how can I search globally to find out which package WOULD INSTALL strings?  aptitude search wasn't helpful.
[11:20] <suryam> is it gonna be part of dapper?
[11:20] <LjL> Klohunt: you don't have multiverse enabled
[11:20] <Klohunt> really?
[11:20] <Klohunt> what about the thing that says multiverse
[11:20] <suryam> !xgl
[11:20] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:20] <cwillu> Celestianpower: so ya, did your provider give you a sheet of information or anything?
[11:21] <Klohunt> main restricted universe multiverse
[11:21] <tristanmike> Klohunt, that's the "backport's" multiverse, not ubuntu's
[11:21] <LjL> Klohunt: http://pastebin.com/596999
[11:21] <LjL> Klohunt: yeah, except it's in backports only
[11:21] <Celestianpower> cwillu: I fixed resolv.conf
[11:21] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <Klohunt> ahh
[11:21] <mikeazorin> how to run .jars on breezy badger?
[11:21] <cwillu> didn't help I take it?
[11:21] <lusepuster> Okay, another prob... I forgot to remove the cd from my sources.list before doing a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy, and now it chokes in some dependency problems. How do I get it back on track?
[11:21] <Genfoo> what is a good and non-resource-hungry bittorrent client I can apt-get for dapper?
[11:21] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Nope
[11:21] <godfathe1> how can i get my .m3u's to be associated with xmms..
[11:22] <Genfoo> *ubuntu
[11:22] <godfathe1> some text editor wants to always open them
[11:22] <Genfoo> :P
[11:22] <Klohunt> LjL: should I replace my file with yours?
[11:22] <godfathe1> breazy 5.10
[11:22] <LjL> Klohunt: yes
[11:22] <Klohunt> ok
[11:22] <gean> GUI- help , please : i use this File Brauser, naughtillus or so, HOW CAN I MARK files FROM one point TO an other one ?! (I must be mad to click on all 100 djvu files to add them to the Copy CD...) Please help me... (mkisofs & cdrecord is the bad techique... names get problems, are truncared, and i also want to delete some few files manually)
[11:22] <LjL> Klohunt: or just add "multiverse" to your universe lines, which is what i did
[11:22] <cwillu> when you do a host archive.ubuntu.com, does it still give that warning at the end?
[11:23] <Genfoo> !info bittorrent
[11:23] <ubotu> bittorrent: (Scatter-gather network file transfer), section net, is optional. Version: 3.4.2-3ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 86 kB, Installed size: 536 kB
[11:23] <Genfoo> !bittorrent
[11:23] <ubotu> bittorrent is, like, totally, the BitTorrent FAQ is available at: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[11:23] <Genfoo> :)
[11:23] <godfathe1> i'm looking in defaults.list under /user/share/applications
[11:23] <yUSiyE> i have a quick question
[11:23] <yUSiyE> i have ubuntu 5.10
[11:23] <yUSiyE> is it easy to upgrade it to the new release flight 5 w/o download the image again?
[11:23] <cwillu> Celestianpower: when you do a host archive.ubuntu.com, does it still give that warning at the end?
[11:24] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Yes
[11:24] <Unununium> Maybe I'm asking my question in the wrong place (looking for static libc).  Where should I go?
[11:24] <ompaul> gean, ctrl and click on the ones you want for many individual files / directories if you want a block shift and click on first and last
[11:24] <cwillu> Celestianpower: can you paste-bin the output of 'host -v archive.ubuntu.com'
[11:24] <NoelJB> ompaul: found it.  two of the utilities packaged by debian require perl.
[11:25] <mikeazorin> rythmbox says that all of my mp3's are not audio streams
[11:25] <mikeazorin> i thought rythmbox could play mp3's?
[11:25] <LjL> !mp3
[11:25] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:25] <kditty> mikeazorian
[11:25] <gopi> I installed freevo successfully but when I try to invoke it by doing ./freevo it says something..... Can anyone help me in sorting it out ?
[11:25] <kditty> go to the help file and read the restricted formats page
[11:25] <lusepuster> mikeazorin, have you installed the mp3 decoding codecs?
[11:25] <mikeazorin> no i have not
[11:25] <mikeazorin> i shall
[11:25] <kditty> no he hasnt
[11:25] <kditty> because it did the same thing to me lol
[11:26] <Celestianpower> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10018
[11:26] <cwillu> thx
[11:26] <erUSUL> gopi, posting the error msg in pastebin would help?
[11:26] <Klohunt> LjL: Thanks, worked
[11:26] <marlun> Is there a terminal based player which can play radio streams?
[11:26] <gean> ompaul : it doesn' work : i click on some (1.st) file, then CTRL-click on some other (say 7.th one), and i have only 2 marked files, SHIFT-CTRL combination also fails...
[11:27] <gean> ompaul : i want to mark some 100 files...
[11:27] <Unununium> Bah, whatever...
[11:27] <thegladiator> gopi, ??
[11:27] <thegladiator> gopi, time ?! first time so late ? :)
[11:27] <gopi> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10019
[11:27] <mikebot> can someone help me get this program running in ubuntu?: http://logic2k.humnet.ucla.edu/download.cfm
[11:27] <godfathe1> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17093 <--- this is gay
[11:27] <dan_> i found this http://pastebin.com/597012 what it do when i stick it in the terminal?
[11:27] <erUSUL> gean, shift+ click has always work here
[11:27] <godfathe1> happening to me
[11:28] <cwillu> Celestianpower:   paste me your resolv.conf
[11:28] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Just did
[11:28] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <gopi> thegladiator: yes ...what are u doing ?
[11:28] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <Klohunt> Will it be necessary to burn another CD to update to Dapper Drake?
[11:28] <mikeazorin> arrgh. kdelibs crashed apt-get while installing and now my dependencies are confused
[11:28] <Celestianpower> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <thegladiator> gopi, pyt
[11:28] <Klohunt> or will 5.10 be capable of updating?
[11:28] <mikeazorin> fixed it, i think.
[11:28] <tristanmike> Klohunt, you can update
[11:28] <gopi> what ?
[11:28] <tristanmike> !tell Klohunt about upgrade
[11:28] <gean> erUSUL : GREAT, thanks !! SHIFT+leftclick does the job !
[11:28] <thegladiator> gopi, python dood...have to sleep soon
[11:29] <gopi> erUSUL: any idea ?
[11:29] <dan_> i found this http://pastebin.com/597012 what it do when i stick it in the terminal?
[11:29] <marlun> When doing a server-install is sound functionality installed too? Will I be able to listen to music from the terminal?
[11:29] <Klohunt> tristanmike: thanks
[11:29] <cwillu> Celestianpower:   you'
[11:29] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  you're lying to me, you know :p
[11:29] <ompaul> gean, Ctrl + Click  for selecting individual applications in a group  >>or<< shift and click  for groups mixing would not appear to be an option
[11:29] <Celestianpower> cwillu: No :(
[11:29] <godfathe1> IS IT POSSIBLE TO ASSOCIATE .M3U'S THAT DO NOT CONTAIN #EXTM3U WITH XMMS IN UBUNTU?
[11:29] <erUSUL> gopi, the msg says to run 'freevo setup' have you tried that?
[11:29] <suryam> meh... Xgl is just eye candy.. the "desktop" beneath it hasn't changed
[11:29] <cwillu> !shout
[11:29] <ubotu> shout is probably WE CAN READ LOWER CASE!
[11:30] <tristanmike> godfathe1, please turn off your caps please
[11:30] <godfathe1> woops
[11:30] <ompaul> godfathe1, please do not use upper case - and I don;t know
[11:30] <tristanmike> lol @ ubotu
[11:30] <karen_> I really need someone to help me fix my resolution.  I followed the wiki and it's not working
[11:30] <dan_> i found this http://pastebin.com/597012 what it do when i stick it in the terminal?
[11:30] <gopi> erUSUL: yeah did that
[11:30] <cwillu> Celestianpower:   the verbose lookup was still showing your router as the source
[11:30] <gopi> erUSUL: let me show u... 1 sec
[11:30] <tristanmike> karen_, what's the problem ?
[11:31] <dan_> i found this http://pastebin.com/597012 what it do when i stick it in the terminal?
[11:31] <lusepuster> Hey, I forgot to remove the cd from the sources.list before doing a dist-upgrade, and now I got stuck...
[11:31] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Oh
[11:31] <lusepuster> How do I fix it?
[11:31] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  can you humour me and paste the resolve.conf content into a paste bin?  it's hard to read in irc :)
[11:31] <rambo3> just remove it
[11:31] <rambo3> #
[11:31] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Okay
[11:31] <dan_> i found this http://pastebin.com/597012 what it do when i stick it in the terminal?
[11:31] <CookyPuss> gizmo is good shit
[11:31] <thegladiator> hmmmm is it possible that I set diff wallpaper for each workspace ?
[11:32] <chimera321> don't think so
[11:32] <karen_> tristanmike, all I have is 640x480, i'm also having problems with my nvidia.  I followed the wiki for that too and it's not working either
[11:32] <tristanmike> dan_, please stop asking the same question, someone will answer if they can
[11:32] <rambo3> what desktop manager
[11:32] <thegladiator> okay thanks was thinking the same...nautilus ...using gnome
[11:32] <Celestianpower> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10020
[11:32] <rambo3> afterstep has that option for many wallpapers
[11:32] <tristanmike> karen_, have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[11:32] <ompaul> lusepuster, remove the CD from the sources list and do it again
[11:32] <thegladiator> kde it is possible I know
[11:32] <chimera321> really?
[11:32] <chimera321> omg *goes to install KDE*
[11:33] <karen_> tristanmike, let me try
[11:33] <gopi> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10021
[11:33] <lusepuster> ompaul, thanks, I already did it though...
[11:33] <thegladiator> thanks lemme google on aftersteo
[11:33] <Mosi> does anyone here use mpg321?
[11:33] <tristanmike> karen_, just stick with the defaults (press enter) for all but the resolution
[11:33] <rambo3> is that mp3?
[11:33] <ompaul> lusepuster, apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[11:33] <gopi> erUSUL: So it is fine.... but what else I can do? :(
[11:34] <swim> hey folks can I install Dapper via a net install?
[11:34] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  in your browser, go to http://cwillu.com/Celestianpower  (this is to get me your external ip)
[11:34] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:34] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:34] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Done
[11:34] <jmoncayo> does somebody know how to dmz with smartAX MT800
[11:34] <erUSUL> gopi, you have to copy a file named local_conf.py.example to /home/gopi/.freevo/local_conf.py. it says it comes with freevo
[11:35] <karen_> tristanmike, now what?
[11:35] <thegladiator> rambo3, is afterstep a full desktop manager ? or just a file manager ?
[11:35] <ubuntux> how do i give root permission for an user?
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !networkinstall
[11:35] <ubotu> Install without a cdrom, recommended for people with broadband https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[11:35] <lusepuster> ompaul, thx again. Won't there be any broken dependencies?
[11:35] <rambo3> i got crashing ubuntu , it just freezes IDE disk . dont know if its posible to repair it since session last < 2 min ,and only thing that helps is reset. need to reinstall to breezy .
[11:35] <thegladiator> do you use it ?
[11:35] <tristanmike> karen_, did you change to the resolution you wanted ?
[11:35] <jmoncayo> does somebody know how to dmz with smartAX MT800
[11:35] <karen_> tristanmike, yup, added the ones I want.  restart computer?
[11:35] <erUSUL> ubuntux, add her to the admin group
[11:35] <Managu> Question: Is there any way I can arrange to get sound out of VMWare player (which uses OSS sound) and Cedega (my choice, OSS or ALSA) at the same time?  I've tried esddsp to no avail =(
[11:35] <rambo3> afterstep is an old window manager . dont know how if thay are active but it has unusal way of managing windows
[11:36] <themachine> what options in synaptic check all packages if they're all up to date?
[11:36] <rambo3> #afterstep
[11:36] <thegladiator> thanks
[11:36] <ompaul> lusepuster, just do it and find out your stuck at this time - it should fixe itself - and please take all talk of dapper to #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <gopi> erUSUL: yeah I did that too...... let me show what it said
[11:36] <tristanmike> karen_, log out, log in should be sufficient, but sure, why not, I always perfer the reboot
[11:36] <thegladiator> i'll prefer to be a gnomer then
[11:36] <karen_> tristanmike, okay, I'll be back if it doesn't work
[11:36] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  paste me the output of 'host archive.ubuntu.com cwillu.com'
[11:36] <lusepuster> ompaul, this is a dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy :-)
[11:37] <ompaul> lusepuster, work away
[11:37] <lusepuster> ompaul, but it seems to work okay now...
[11:38] <jacek> anybody from poland?
[11:38] <Celestianpower> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10022
[11:38] <mikeazorin> how to play m4a files?
[11:38] <ompaul> !pl
[11:38] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:38] <gopi> erUSUL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10023
[11:38] <tristanmike> jacek, lots of people i hear
[11:38] <tristanmike> jacek, :P
[11:38] <jacek> dobrze
[11:38] <karen_> tristanmike, didn't work
[11:39] <chimera321> !dapper
[11:39] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake - /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[11:39] <lusepuster> mikeazorin, again you need the right codecs. Have you installed automatics?
[11:39] <mikeazorin> automatics?
[11:39] <Amaranth> !automatix
[11:39] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[11:39] <ompaul> !automatix
[11:39] <mikeazorin> not if it wasn't on the restricted formats page
[11:39] <tristanmike> karen_, and you can't change it in System - Preferences - Screen Resolution ?
[11:39] <jacek> ;)
[11:39] <lusepuster> oops....
[11:39] <Amaranth> !easyubuntu
[11:39] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[11:39] <karen_> tristanmike, no, I had a hard time doing this before, I'
[11:39] <chimera321> !rtfm
[11:39] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, chimera321
[11:39] <lusepuster> didn't know that about automatix....
[11:39] <farous> hi anyone know of a good light gui calendar and reminder program. I have remind here but was looking for other possiblities. PS not running gnome
[11:40] <karen_> tristanmike, I'm putting ubuntu on a new computer
[11:40] <Amaranth> lusepuster: don't use it
[11:40] <gopi> erUSUL: seeing it ?
[11:40] <lusepuster> Amaranth, Got it, and I won't recommend it to anyone anymore :)
[11:40] <jacek> odpalilem linuxowska dystrybucje souleeka, czyli nicotine i mam caly czas offline
[11:40] <jacek> orientuje sie ktos?
[11:40] <themachine> any good KDE update programs. like one that tells you that there's new versions of programs.
[11:40] <nalioth> !cz
[11:40] <tristanmike> karen_, can you, on pastebin, paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file
[11:40] <ubotu> nalioth: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[11:40] <navarone> !pl
[11:40] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:40] <rambo3> tisina
[11:40] <jmoncayo> does somebody know how to dmz with smartAX MT800
[11:40] <ncp> anyone got any tricks to optimise ubuntu as server?
[11:40] <sHaDe> n8 all
[11:41] <gopi> erUSUL: are u there ?
[11:41] <Amaranth> lusepuster: the echo stuff makes it automatically say say to things when apt says "This will break your computer! Are you really sure?"
[11:41] <Amaranth> err, say yes
[11:41] <karen_> tristanmike, how do I get that again, and how do I get pastebin, it's been so long since I've had problems
[11:41] <durga> how  can i get evolution to minimise to the sys tray  ?
[11:41] <tristanmike> !tell karen_ about pastebin
[11:41] <nalioth> lusepuster: you'd be saddened by the numbers of folks who've had their boxen wrecked by it
[11:41] <pablo928> I downloaded bbips as a .sh. I can open it with "sudo sh "location of file", but the images I create are owned by root. How can I install bbips from the .sh file?\
[11:41] <erUSUL> gopi, you have to set some variables in the file. edit it. also you need to create a directory named /var/cache/freevo. you need to install some dependencies too. i think is to much work for newbie
[11:41] <lusepuster> mikeazorin, , but easyubuntu lets you easily install all the restricted foormats and so, I would guess the codecs would be there
[11:42] <wickers> I am reminded how much I hate doing tech work on Windows... bloody windows ME
[11:42] <selinium> ompaul: is it you that has been pinging me?
[11:42] <jacek> jest polski room?
[11:42] <lusepuster> nalioth, I believe you.
[11:42] <ompaul> selinium, no
[11:42] <navarone> durga right-click and click "hide"
[11:42] <nalioth> jacek: in #ubuntu-pl
[11:42] <karen_> tristanmike, now what did you want pasted there and how do I get that file?
[11:42] <erUSUL> gopi, have you tried to look for a prepackaged version or to use mythtv?
[11:42] <jacek> dziki
[11:42] <gopi> erUSUL: I tried to create directory... but its not possible to create directory in /var/cache !!
[11:43] <rambo3> karen_ : sudo geti /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <tristanmike> karen_, "gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" paste that
[11:43] <navarone> jacek, try /j #ubuntu-pl
[11:43] <ompaul> !pl
[11:43] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:43] <Mosi> does anyone here used mpg321?
[11:43] <lusepuster> bumping my ol question again; is there an easy way to run an already-existing windows install as a guest system in Ubuntu, sorta like MOL does it on PPC?
[11:43] <orn> Howdy. I just updated to dapper drake, and oowriter is no longer installed and it says there's a dependancy issue. Anyone know what that's about?
[11:43] <gopi> erUSUL: yes mythtv I struggled a lot to install :(
[11:43] <erUSUL> gopi, you have to create it as root. with sudo.
[11:43] <tristanmike> !tell orn about dapper
[11:43] <gopi> erUSUL: Others like Zapper and TVtime viewer.... i am getting audio but no video :(
[11:43] <nalioth> orn: join #ubuntu+1
[11:43] <orn> oh, thanks
[11:44] <Munchkinguy> I changed my desktop theme to "Clearlooks", but when I select text, it still turns brown. How do I change the colour of the "selected text background"?
[11:44] <thephotoman> Lusepuster: Short answer: no.  Long answer: yes.
[11:44] <Mosi> lusepuster: if you can image the drive with windows on it, try qemu or bochs
[11:44] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  try this:  host -v archive.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:44] <jacek> na #ubuntu-pl jestem tylko ja ;/
[11:44] <erUSUL> gopi, mythtv is in repositories you only have to fire up synaptic and install it
[11:44] <thephotoman> If you define easy as "hacking a few text files, making too many symbolic links, and imaging the drive", then yeah, it's easy.
[11:45] <gopi> erUSUL: FYI, mine is an Athlon64 system but Iam using Ubuntu for AMD64
[11:45] <lusepuster> Mosi, image it? It's on a separate partition  on the same disk
[11:45] <erUSUL> !tell gopi about mythtv
[11:45] <anto9us> lusepuster, the problem there would be that your windows installation would be looking for the hardware it's set up on, a vm offers virtual hardware
[11:45] <navarone> jacek, sry it's #ubuntu.pl
[11:45] <Mosi> lusepuster: i don't know how to work with that. but try dd'ing the partition to a file, and run that file in the afore-mentioned programs
[11:46] <karen_> tristanmike, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10024
[11:46] <Mosi> lusepuster: i'm sure there are other ways to do it,  but that's what i would do
[11:46] <lusepuster> Mosi, sorry for not knowing much... dd'ing?
[11:46] <Lani> Hello, I'm new to Linux and Ubuntu. I've installed with the default desktop installation but when xwindows starts the graphics is all wierd. Does anyone know how I can change the xwindows video mode?
[11:46] <thephotoman> Weird?  How so?
[11:46] <selinium> !logs
[11:46] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, selinium
[11:46] <cwillu> Lani: what video card, vintage of machine, monitor model?
[11:47] <tristanmike> karen_, what if you change the refresh rate, does that give you access to other resolutions ?
[11:47] <anto9us> Lani, you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf but make a backup first
[11:47] <Munchkinguy> tristanmike: I changed my desktop theme to "Clearlooks", but when I select text, it still turns brown. How do I change the colour of the "selected text background"?
[11:47] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  still there?
[11:47] <Mosi> lusepuster: dd is a command-line program to raw-copy binary data from a device, like your hard disk. but you need to know the start and end block of the partition, that's a little tricky to get
[11:47] <Lani> cwillu: eh, it's kinda a long shot, but it's Microsoft Virtual PC ;)
[11:47] <tristanmike> Munchkinguy, I don't know, I don't use clearlooks
[11:47] <karen_> tristanmike, can't change refresh rate
[11:47] <cwillu> ah
[11:47] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Yes
[11:48] <Celestianpower> Sorry
[11:48] <Lani> anto9us: ok thanks, i will look there, thank you!
[11:48] <cwillu> did you get that last command?  :)
[11:48] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Which?
[11:48] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  try this:  host -v archive.ubuntu.com <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:48] <Munchkinguy> tristanmike: Then, how would I normally chage the selected text background colour?
[11:48] <anto9us> Lani, "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" then "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[11:48] <Mosi> does anyone know where i can get an mp3 plugin for XMMS, for PowerPC?
[11:48] <pablo928> how can I install a .sh app?
[11:49] <tristanmike> Munchkinguy, idk
[11:49] <anto9us> Lani, to quickly restart X without a reboot press ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:49] <Lani> anto9us: ok! thank you very much! trying right away!
[11:49] <Mosi> pablo: .sh usually means just a shell script. It's not really a program, just a single file that runs shell commands. It should run from anywhere.
[11:49] <jacek> navarone, thnx
[11:49] <cwillu> This is linux, and saturday:  you're expected to be giving this your full attention dammit :)
[11:49] <Celestianpower> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10025
[11:49] <erUSUL> pablo928, maybe sudo sh *.sh
[11:49] <lusepuster> anto9us, scandinavian?
[11:49] <tristanmike> karen_, when you did the dpkg-reconfigure, did you have an option of selecting "nvidia" as a driver and not "nv" ?
[11:49] <anto9us> lusepuster, no, I'm English, I live in Wales
[11:50] <Mosi> pablo928: does it not run where it is at the moment?
[11:50] <Lani> anto9us: ok, thanks again!
[11:50] <cwillu> Celestianpower:  hmm :/
[11:50] <cwillu> that looks right
[11:50] <erUSUL> pablo928, Mosi it can be a shar self-extracting compressed file
[11:50] <Celestianpower> cwillu: Be back after a reboot
[11:50] <cwillu> k
[11:50] <Mosi> erUSUL: i see ^_^
[11:50] <lusepuster> anto9us, Okay... 9 in the scaninavian languages is pronounced somewhat like 'nee', so it'd fit w your nick :-)
[11:51] <pablo928> Mosi:rthe shell script which I would like to install as an app is bbips. I emailed the maintainer and he add4ed another function to it which isn't available through the repos yet.
[11:51] <Munchkinguy> poningru: Perhaps you can help me with a problem?
[11:51] <lusepuster> Mosi, about that guest system... seem like using wine is a lot easier...
[11:51] <anto9us> lusepuster, my nick is meant to be pronounced as antoninus :)
[11:51] <poningru> sigh
[11:51] <poningru> dude randomly pinging people is not cool
[11:51] <Mosi> pablo928: erUSUL has corrected me, there's an archive format also tagged .sh, that's probably what you have. He seems to know more about that than i do ^_^
[11:51] <poningru> whats wrong?
[11:52] <lusepuster> anto9us, Hmm.... rest my case then :-) I'll keep saying 'antonius'...
[11:52] <swim> has anyone here gone from mandriva to ubuntu and stayed?
[11:52] <orn> anyone know of a program that is able to open oo documents apart from oo?
[11:52] <dang`r`us> hey hey
[11:52] <suryam> ho ho!
[11:52] <poningru> orko: koffice
[11:52] <dang`r`us> where do I get azureus for dapper?
[11:52] <cwillu> pong
[11:52] <Mosi> lusepuster: i'm on PowerPC, so i've never used Wine, since there's no PPC version.  Like is aid, i'm sure there are other ways that i don't know about, some probably easier. that's just what i would do.
[11:52] <Munchkinguy> poningru: How do I change the background colour of background text?
[11:53] <anto9us> swim, I went from mandrake to debian to ubuntu and stayed
[11:53] <poningru> dang`r`us: you cant install azureus easily using apt-get because of dependence on java
[11:53] <poningru> !tell dang`r`us about azureus
[11:53] <swim> anto9us, can you remember what you like more about ubuntu over mandriva?
[11:53] <poningru> Munchkinguy: what do you mean?
[11:53] <lusepuster> Mosi, okay. I'm normally a ppc uder myself, and I love Mac-On-Linux and hoped for a kind of Windoze-on-linux here on my mom's box
[11:53] <pablo928> erUSUL bbips was originally written as a bash script, I downloaded the newest version from the site as a .sh
[11:53] <poningru> lusepuster: give here wine
[11:53] <anto9us> swim, mainly the package management system and the repositories
[11:54] <dang`r`us> poningru, thanks (I have java, but now I also have a link to the .deb!)
[11:54] <poningru> !tell lusepuster about wine
[11:54] <lusepuster> poningru, don't get ya?
[11:54] <lusepuster> poningru, I know about wine, thanks
[11:54] <poningru> oh ok
[11:54] <Mosi> lusepuster: there are a slew of programs that will do that, but i don't know much about most of them. I would recommend looking into VMware
[11:54] <cwillu> I've got an oven pan that I warped by accident;  how can I unwarp it?
[11:54] <Mosi> lusepuster: er, VM
[11:54] <jmoncayo> can sombody help me with html
[11:54] <Lani> is there a keycombo for exiting xwindows? not only restarting it
[11:54] <anto9us> swim, also, ubuntu is a great community driven distro
[11:55] <Mosi> cwillu: /join #kitchenware
[11:55] <lusepuster> Mosi, thanks
[11:55] <cwillu> :p
[11:55] <Mosi> jmoncayo: what do you need?
[11:55] <Munchkinguy> poningru: I changed my desktop theme, but when I select text, it still turns brown. How do I change the colour of the "selected text background"?
[11:55] <erUSUL> pablo928, it is a simple shell script just make it executable and owned by root and place it somewhere in your path (/usr/local/bin is a good place)
[11:55] <swim> anto9us, because I used to use small distros like CRUX, and then Archlinux, but then I wanted something bigger that would "just work" so I could get more work done... unfortunatley although in a lot of ways I like ubuntu, i find a few things dont "just work" so Im considering trying one of the other big ones like Mandriva, or OpenSUSE
[11:55] <poningru> oh
[11:55] <poningru> Munchkinguy: uh that should have changed with the theme
[11:55] <jmoncayo> Mosi: can you see if the apache server is up in my ip
[11:56] <anto9us> swim, what are you struggling to get working?
[11:56] <dang`r`us> arch lost me because of too much stuff breaking
[11:56] <dang`r`us> now I'm running dapper and so far no meltdown ... good thing
[11:56] <poningru> Munchkinguy: try another theme
[11:56] <swim> anto9us, at the moment mostly burning... audio, as well as data
[11:56] <Mosi> Lani: Xwindows is set up to respawn whenever it's killed in /etc/inittab. you probably don't want change that, but if you press ctrl-alt-F1 you can switch to a text terminal
[11:56] <Munchkinguy> ok
[11:56] <Mosi> jmoncayo: URL?
[11:56] <anto9us> swim, have you enabled dma on your drive?
[11:57] <Lani> Mosi: ok, thank you! :)
[11:57] <swim> anto9us, I dont remember can I check from cli?
[11:57] <Mosi> Lani: sure :)
[11:57] <jmoncayo> Mosi: http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:57] <Mosi> Lani: ctrl-alt-F through ctrl-alt-F6 are also terminals, giving you six to work with ^_^
[11:58] <Mosi> Lani: F2
[11:58] <anto9us> swim, hdparm /dev/hdc
[11:58] <navarone> Lani ND CTRL ALT F7 WILL BRING YOU BACK TO GUI
[11:58] <navarone> oopps sry for caps
[11:58] <swim> anto9us, hmm using_dma = 0 (off)
[11:58] <Mosi> jmoncayo: it's taking a while to connect
[11:58] <anto9us> ubotu, tell swim about dma
[11:58] <poningru> swim: !dma
[11:58] <Silent_shadow900> hello
[11:58] <poningru> or what he said
[11:58] <Lani> ah ok, thank you all for your helpful input :)
[11:59] <jmoncayo> Mosi: so it doesnt work?
[11:59] <Mosi> Lani: no problem, glad i could help
[11:59] <Silent_shadow900> I am in need of assistance. Would there be anyone here willing to help me?
[11:59] <Mosi> jmoncayo: it's going to time out, it's been like a minute already
[11:59] <dang`r`us> Silent_shadow900, just ask your question
[11:59] <Mosi> Silent_shadow900 what's wrong?
[11:59] <jmoncayo> Mosi: is that for some firewall blocking port 80??
[11:59] <ClayG> how can i trouble shoot my MIC?
[11:59] <Silent_shadow900> well, I've been trying to boot with the Live CD, but nothing happens when I restart the computer with the CD in the drive
[12:00] <Silent_shadow900> Is there an option to boot the computer from a CD?


[00:12] <mrooney> djsiegel_: ping a ling
[00:12] <djsiegel_> mrooney: hello
[00:13] <mrooney> djsiegel_: do you know if it is possible/desirable to make me some sort of papercut member so I can mark papercut tasks as Triaged and perhaps attempt to assign Importance?
[00:13] <djsiegel_> mrooney: that won't be possible, "not trivially fixable" :)
[00:13] <djsiegel_> but you have a great point
[00:14] <djsiegel_> we need to have a membership approval for ayatana
[00:14] <djsiegel_> ayatana will have usability bugs filed against it
[00:14] <djsiegel_> and we will need to give active ayatana contributors some sort of elevated authority on bugs, at least
[00:14] <mrooney> well you could use an existing group like bugcontrol
[00:15] <djsiegel_> I don't know anything about that.
[00:15] <djsiegel_> I think we are ok though.
[00:15] <mrooney> oh BugControl is the group in Launchpad that has permissions to set Triaged and Importance in Ubuntu
[00:15] <djsiegel_> The best way you can help right now is marking invalid and triage
[00:15] <djsiegel_> we are going to cut a set of 10 papercuts (actually, we have 10 triaged now)
[00:16] <djsiegel_> and simulate the entire project workflow with them over the next week
[00:16] <mrooney> well I can't set as "Triaged" without being a member
[00:16] <djsiegel_> yeah, I know
[00:16] <mrooney> I can triage in the non literal sense of course
[00:16] <djsiegel_> one sec
[00:16] <mrooney> if you were to make BugControl as a team a member, I think it would logically work out as it is an Ubuntu project
[00:17] <mrooney> you could talk to bdmurray in #ubuntu-bugs he is probably wise in all these ways
[00:18] <djsiegel_> we use the team for other privileges
[00:18] <djsiegel_> we can't do that
[00:18] <djsiegel_> but I did ask beuno to come in here and chat with you about your ideas
[00:18] <djsiegel_> he is the launchpad workflow expert and design team member
[00:18] <djsiegel_> speak of the devil
[00:18] <ScottK> It'd be nice if there were a way to have stuff that gets nominated to be a papercut and then marked invalid not dump stuff into the inbox of everyone who's subscribed to the bug.
[00:19] <djsiegel_> ScottK: filter it :)
[00:19] <beuno> so
[00:19] <beuno> one way to do the "nomination" workflow
[00:19] <beuno> is using series
[00:19] <beuno> and people propose them for the series
[00:19] <beuno> and we approve/decline
[00:20] <djsiegel_> mrooney: we kind of want everyone to generate a continuous stream of paper cuts, and our team will just pick 100 each cycle
[00:20] <djsiegel_> or it could be first come, first served
[00:21] <djsiegel_> each time we get 100, we say "we have our 100"
[00:21] <djsiegel_> and then swap them out if they fail
[00:21] <djsiegel_> but I don't think our current definition of paper cut is sustainable
[00:21] <djsiegel_> we may need to open it up to included apps more
[00:21] <djsiegel_> but it's appropriate that this first round focuses on the space between apps
[00:22] <djsiegel_> but I have been working way too long, need to get some exercise
[00:22] <djsiegel_> see you, mrooney, beuno, ScottK
[00:23] <mrooney> haha, see you later
[00:23] <mrooney> beuno: I was just suggesting that it might be useful to the project if some larger, trusted group of people (like BugControl or ubuntu members) could mark paper cut tasks as Triaged and set Importance
[00:30] <beuno> mrooney, that may be a good idea, although it's hard because it opens the door for even more discussions
[00:31] <mrooney> beuno: oh, what sorts of discussions?
[00:32] <beuno> mrooney, which ones are or aren't a papercut, and which ones make the cut or not
[00:32] <beuno> since it has a hard limit
[00:32] <beuno> there will be hard decisions to be made
[00:33] <mrooney> beuno: that is true, though having people allowed to Triage and potentially set importance doesn't make more tasks, anyone can open the tasks. I am not sure how this would affect those decisions
[00:34] <mrooney> which ones are or aren't a papercut can already be changed by anyone via the Invalid and Confirmed status
[01:16] <beuno> mrooney, I will look into it
[01:16] <beuno> it sounds like a good idea
[02:21] <micahg> Would auto selecting the fastest mirror be a good papercut?
[08:09] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[12:04]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[12:06] <SiDi> The people who often are on #ayatana will have noticed that MacSlow seems to eat everyday :)
[12:07] <MacSlow> SiDi, surprised?
[12:08] <lamalex> it's reassuring that our devs are getting the nutrition they need
[12:09] <SiDi> Indeed.
[12:09] <SiDi> We should put a "We feed our developers" in the release notes of Karmic
[12:11] <lamalex> well really he feeds himself
[12:11] <lamalex> we dont want to take that away from him
[18:52] <MacSlow> IHateGimp why oh why?
[18:52] <MacSlow> poor wilbur
[18:59] <IHateGimp> MacSlow: cause i suffer from its interface
[18:59] <IHateGimp> it would require a billion paper cuts !


[20:36] <sarnold> fungi: https://ubuntu.com/security/CVE-2021-42097 now shows the correct status :) thanks for the report
[21:00] <fungi> sarnold: yep, noticed that earlier today. thanks again for all the hard work!
[21:01] <sarnold> fungi: woot :) it was all others, not me, I'm just pushing buttons :)
[21:02] <fungi> even tracking these things is work ;)