[13:27] <EoflaOE> I have found the issue in Lubuntu Live DVD where if you remove the installation medium, and press enter, SQUASHFS errors appear. How can I get all details so the bug report will be sufficient?


[00:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> When I re-purposed a Dell File server, to use as a desktop, I didn't use the raid feature. The onboard controller worked just fine. Granted, It wasn't a Cisco Blade server, but options can be changed.
[00:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, I digress.
[01:47] <xubuntu091> je reste bloqué a enregistrement des paquets
[01:48] <xubuntu091> paquet installés
[01:48] <Unit193> !fr
[04:23] <csalvador> hey guys
[06:16] <kRush> anyone successfully running the latest amd biary blob on 13.10? I just get the wallpaper after login/no UI =/
[06:17] <kRush> *binary
[06:51] <A_J_> how do i enable wireless networks in xubuntu ? any help
[06:52] <well_laid_lawn> !wifi
[06:54] <A_J_> well_laid_lawn this is an xubuntu specific problem. cause i enabled it via the cli just can't do it via the GUI
[06:54] <A_J_> says wireless network disabled in the dropdown on the desktop
[06:54] <A_J_> and in network manager the previous network shows up ( saved pw) with no way to connect to it
[06:56] <well_laid_lawn> if you bring down the wifi in a terminal can you then remove the old connection in network manager ?
[06:56] <A_J_> oh well i can scan for it. can't seem to connect to it.
[06:56] <A_J_> some syntax error
[07:43] <A_J_> hey all.. i need help. how do i restore the taskbar( bar on top) to default settings.. i messed mine up bad
[07:46] <A_J_> :(
[08:26] <well_laid_lawn> A_J_:  you can remove the files for the panel in ~/.config/xfce4/
[08:27] <well_laid_lawn> while not in X or they just get saved again
[11:44] <ngomes> hello
[11:44] <ngomes> about the known bug on 13.10 networkmanager
[11:45] <ngomes> suspend hangs networkmanager on wakeup
[11:45] <ngomes> workaround killall Networkmanager brings networkmanager
[11:45] <ngomes> but
[11:45] <ngomes> i cant suspend anymore either shutdown
[11:45] <ngomes> gives me a dbus error
[11:46] <ngomes> its still not solved , right
[12:35] <brainwash> ngomes: not yet solved (officially)
[12:36] <brainwash> ngomes: bug 1184262, comment 73
[12:40] <ngomes> brainwash, hmmm some say it works some say it doesnt
[12:41] <brainwash> ngomes: if your session gets stuck and won't allow you to suspend again, then this fix will most likely fix it
[12:42] <ngomes> isnt this package available in the ubuntu repositories ?
[12:42] <ngomes> i hate to add PPA
[12:42] <brainwash> it is, but the "broken" one
[12:42] <ngomes> hmm
[12:42] <brainwash> well, simply download the .deb file and install it manually
[12:43] <brainwash> or compile from source
[12:44] <ngomes> ok done
[12:44] <ngomes> dpkg did not told me about upgrading the package ...
[12:44] <ngomes> oh wait
[12:45] <ngomes> preparing to replace (...)
[12:45] <ngomes> guess its ok
[12:45] <ngomes> ill go test
[12:45] <brainwash> alright, add a comment to the bug report with your test result(s)
[12:46] <ngomes> hello ?
[12:46] <brainwash> yeah?
[12:46] <ngomes> suspended twice , looks like its solved :D
[12:47] <ngomes> ( gotta love tcp timeouts ) :)
[12:47] <ngomes> ok , dont know if i have account
[12:47] <ngomes> on launchpad
[12:48] <brainwash> don't worry
[12:48] <ngomes> i dont see a reply box
[12:48] <ngomes> to add my comment
[12:48] <brainwash> did you login?
[12:49] <brainwash> the comment box is located at the bottom of the site
[12:52] <ngomes> brainwash, comment 107 :-)
[12:53] <ngomes> i see now , i was not logged in
[12:53] <brainwash> ngomes: thanks :)
[12:53] <ngomes> :-)
[12:53] <ngomes> great. now only sound volume is bugged
[12:54] <ngomes> its ok , i can go on multimedia and select volume
[12:54] <brainwash> that's bug 1208204
[12:54] <ngomes> is it solved ?
[12:55] <brainwash> workarounds do exist
[12:56] <ngomes> i see
[12:56] <ngomes> gonna wait
[12:56] <ngomes> its not very important to me right now
[12:57] <brainwash> the long term solution would be add support for ubuntu's gtk3 indicators
[12:57] <ngomes> and the update-manager icon does apeear not more
[12:57] <brainwash> see bug 1238997
[12:57] <ngomes> it opens up a task in task manager
[12:58] <brainwash> update-manager indicator -> bug 1246364
[13:00] <ngomes> no workaround
[13:01] <ngomes> its ok too , no big problem
[13:01] <ngomes> ill wati
[13:01] <ngomes> i still prefer the icon rather the minimized window
[13:03] <brainwash> maybe it will be fixed or some adjustments will be made, but not any time soon I'm afraid
[13:04] <ngomes> ok
[13:04] <ngomes> i'll wait
[13:05] <ngomes> the suspend / network manager was the one annoying me
[13:05] <ngomes> rest is fine
[13:05] <ngomes> apart from that
[13:06] <ngomes> few kernel releases ago , i could list all kernel modules with modprobe -l , now ( i think its after 3.x.x) i cant ... do you know how can i do this ?
[13:07] <brainwash> don't know, try lsmod
[13:09] <ngomes> lsmod lists the modules kernel is using at the moment , i was asking the opposite
[13:10] <ngomes> parameter -l is out of modprobe manual :o
[13:10] <ngomes> deep changes in this
[13:10] <brainwash> right
[13:11] <brainwash> found this http://lwn.net/Articles/529781/
[13:11] <brainwash> and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134393
[13:13] <ngomes> ok , thanks , couldnt find that out , but its what i was looking for
[13:14] <moondog> hmm, they apparently moved the default menu in 13.10
[13:15] <ngomes> looks the same to me
[13:15] <moondog> I grabbed the one from /etc/xdg/menus like I would typically do and put it in ~/.config/menus and everything changed
[13:16] <moondog> so that's apparently not where it's getting it
[13:16] <moondog> it *was* the norm
[13:16] <brainwash> /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/menus
[13:16] <moondog> thank you :)
[13:16] <ngomes> do you want an alternative menu ? i've seen one few days ago , cant remember the name
[13:16] <ngomes> whisky something
[13:16] <moondog> oh yeah, Mint uses that
[13:17] <moondog> it's not bad
[13:17] <ngomes> i've seen a post of someone using it as alternative to xfce one
[13:17] <brainwash> this one http://gottcode.org/xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin/
[13:17] <moondog> whisker menu
[13:17] <ngomes> yes whisker-menu
[13:18] <ngomes> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/10/whisker-menu-xfce-ubuntu-app-menu-with-search?utm_source=feedly
[13:19] <ngomes> here is the article about it
[13:24] <ngomes> well , i done here
[13:24] <ngomes> i«m
[13:24] <ngomes> see you next time
[13:41] <xubuntu399> buona sera a tutti
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !it
[13:42] <Junka> !ge
[13:42] <Junka> !ja
[13:42] <Junka> :O
[13:45] <elfy> Junka: this channel isn't a playground - if you want to check out ubottu factoids do so here http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[13:50] <Junka> elfy, sorry :(
[18:43] <ljunggren> hi
[18:44] <ljunggren> is there any differnce between isntalling fglrx-updates and download and try to install from amd website?
[18:44] <bekks> ljunggren: The difference is: the latter will break on every kernel update.
[18:45] <ljunggren> bekks, you mean if i download from website?
[18:45] <bekks> Yes.
[18:45] <ljunggren> so fglrx-updates is the best choice
[18:45] <ljunggren> i just want best performance
[18:46] <ljunggren> i dont think opensource drivers will cope with games as well as propdrive
[18:48] <ljunggren> thanks for the help
[18:57] <xubuntu949> bonjour
[18:58] <xubuntu949> j'ai installé xubuntu 13.10 et j'ai un problème de surchauffe avec ma carte graphique ATI radeon 3400
[18:58] <bekks> !fr | xubuntu949
[19:36] <m3kk> is linux ready to completly replace windows for gaming now?
[19:36] <m3kk> with steam and all
[19:37] <holstein> !steam
[19:37] <m3kk> was that meant for me?
[19:37] <holstein> m3kk: that really has nothing to do with "linux".. its about the game developers and hardware manufacturers supporting linux
[19:37] <holstein> m3kk: yes.. that is the steam information
[19:37] <m3kk> holstein: thanks
[19:37] <m3kk> i mean drivers? are they on-pare? in experience
[19:38] <holstein> m3kk: if they are made/designed to me, yes
[19:38] <Junka> m3kk: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=gpus_windows81_ubuntu&num=1
[19:39] <m3kk> wow junka nice link
[19:42] <m3kk> oh.. linux is pretty behind
[19:42] <m3kk> =/
[19:42] <holstein> m3kk: its actually not linux that is behind.. its linux support
[19:43] <m3kk> yeah
[19:43] <m3kk> drivers
[19:43] <m3kk> i mean in-direct
[19:43] <holstein> you can find hardware that will have *better* perfomance in linux
[19:43] <m3kk> or something
[19:43] <m3kk> i should buy  a gtx 680 it seems
[19:43] <holstein> if you are gaming, linux is an option.. a new option
[19:44] <m3kk> nice way to put it
[19:45] <m3kk> guess ill just stick with win8.1 for gaming till now only because of performance in game
[19:45] <holstein> or, help steam make it better by using it..
[19:46] <holstein> when folks on linux want games, they will come
[19:46] <holstein> arguably the best thing to do is to just use linux and ask for and demand support and buy games for linux, from hardware vendors that support linux
[19:49] <m3kk> yeah
[19:52] <m3kk> holstein: you talked me in to it.. i will actually install linux now on my main desktop pc..
[19:52] <m3kk> wish me luck
[19:52] <holstein> m3kk: enjoy!
[19:56] <m3kk> i know this belongs to #ubuntu-steam but you seem pretty good at it holstein , is it possibly to install games from steam on a seperate disk than ubuntu is isntalled on ? i only have 64gb SSD and it will vannish if i start installing games on it.. i have another 500GB HDD that i intented for games etc
[20:03] <RipresaTecn> could move your home to the hdd
[20:05] <RipresaTecn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[20:06] <RipresaTecn> then use live cd to expand root partition thats on the sdd
[20:06] <RipresaTecn> ssd*
[20:06] <m3kk> hm
[20:06] <m3kk> i don't know
[20:07] <m3kk> cant i just chose path install like windows?
[20:07] <bekks> m3kk: sure.
[20:07] <m3kk> but moving home to E: ( my HDD) perhaps is a good idea.. since its there i have all my movies and pictures?
[20:07] <RipresaTecn> not sure im just throwing stuff out there since nobody was answering you
[20:08] <bekks> E: is a Windows drive letter.
[20:08] <RipresaTecn> lol when you convert linux terms to windows terms you make your life harder
[20:08] <m3kk> yes
[20:09] <m3kk> RipresaTecn: thanks
[20:10] <m3kk> writing a liveusb now!
[20:10] <RipresaTecn> im trying to find a good resource that will teach you how linux handles storage devices
[20:10] <m3kk> that would be awesome and probably really confusing
[20:10] <RipresaTecn> lol
[20:11] <m3kk> but i really would love to learn
[20:11] <bekks> !beginner
[20:11] <bekks> hmm.
[20:11] <m3kk> i installed ubuntu on my mothers OOooooldass laptop because it was not running even XP good..
[20:11] <RipresaTecn> wow
[20:12] <bekks> m3kk: Then dont expect wonders.
[20:12] <m3kk> it was overheating and it was freezing even after full reinstall.. i just tested it with ubuntu and its like brand new.. runs much better then my new laptop
[20:12] <m3kk> i didn't just last resort.. worked out beaaaautiful
[20:12] <m3kk> she loves it
[20:12] <RipresaTecn> http://askubuntu.com/questions/56929/what-is-the-linux-drive-naming-scheme
[20:12] <RipresaTecn> maybe that will help clear things up
[20:13] <m3kk> bekks: wonder did happen ;)
[20:13] <m3kk> i will check
[20:13] <m3kk> aha.. so my "C" will be used as just / then
[20:13] <bekks> No.
[20:13] <m3kk> my whole SSD as /
[20:13] <bekks> There are no drive letters.
[20:13] <m3kk> no?
[20:14] <m3kk> nono i know
[20:14] <RipresaTecn> yes C is /
[20:14] <bekks> RipresaTecn: Uhm no.
[20:14] <RipresaTecn> well yah if you convert it pretty much is
[20:14] <m3kk> Yeah so when i install ubuntu my whole SSD (WItch is NOW C;) will be /
[20:14] <bekks> Technically, you can install Windows on D:-Z: - you cannot install linux anywhere but /
[20:15] <RipresaTecn> well now we are getting overly technical
[20:15] <m3kk> i understand, but my ssd will be / either way
[20:15] <RipresaTecn> to his eyes yes c is /
[20:15] <m3kk> root
[20:15] <well_laid_lawn> c is a partition, linux names the partitions like /dev/sda
[20:15] <well_laid_lawn>  /dev/sdb etc
[20:16] <m3kk> ok
[20:16] <m3kk> so guys
[20:17] <m3kk> what i have is 64GB SSD, 500gb HDD ( filled with pics and movies) .. the best deal for me (and easiest) would be just crashnburn install ubuntu over win8 on ssd right?
[20:17] <m3kk> im in the liveusb right now
[20:17] <well_laid_lawn> you can dualboot if you still want to keep windows
[20:17] <well_laid_lawn> !dualboot
[20:17] <m3kk> i raelly dont want to dualboot
[20:17] <m3kk> im trying to break up with windows
[20:18] <well_laid_lawn> just nuke the win install then
[20:18] <m3kk> good lord
[20:18] <m3kk> sounds brutal
[20:18] <m3kk> and awesome
[20:18] <well_laid_lawn> you just overwrite the win install with linux
[20:19] <well_laid_lawn> I recommend making a seperate /home partition too
[20:19] <m3kk> wait
[20:20] <m3kk> well_laid_lawn: you mean instead of choosing "Nuke Windows 8 with Ubuntu" i should chose "Something else.."
[20:21] <well_laid_lawn> if you have no experience making partitions going with the default install might be a lot less stress
[20:21] <m3kk> yeah
[20:21] <well_laid_lawn> try that first then
[20:22] <m3kk> but why does ubuntu think default i want my start-handle ( direct translate from swede) to be oni my 500gb hdd? aka /dev/sda
[20:22] <well_laid_lawn> it only takes about 20 minutes for an install so if you change your mind later it is quick enough to redo things
[20:23] <well_laid_lawn> it's normal to install the boot loader to the disk with the root partition
[20:23] <m3kk> i have a lot of options really.. i dont know why
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sda 500gb
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sda1
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sda3 (windows 8 loader)
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sda4
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sdb 64GB SSD
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sdb1
[20:23] <m3kk> /dev/sdc 2gb
[20:25] <m3kk> i think i will just "replace win 8 with ubuntu" .. and hope for the best? i just  hope it does not delete everything on my second HDD
[20:25] <well_laid_lawn> you said win8 was on the ssd ...
[20:25] <m3kk> yeah it is really
[20:25] <well_laid_lawn> so win8 is on /dev/sdb1 then
[20:25] <well_laid_lawn> ?
[20:25] <m3kk> it should
[20:26] <m3kk> its ntfs partition
[20:26] <m3kk> the /dev/sda3 windows 8 loader is just 367MB big
[20:26] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like the live cd didn't sort the partitions out right then
[20:26] <m3kk> hum
[20:27] <m3kk> the /dev/sdb1 says size 64020 with used space "unknown"
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> I can't see the setup from here so I'm just going by what you say, and there's a contradiction there
[20:28] <m3kk> okok i can take a screendump
[20:29] <m3kk> somehow
[20:30] <m3kk> a shame i cant maximize the window..  cant see everything in that little
[20:30] <ubuntu_> ok im here
[20:30] <ubuntu_> its m3kk
[20:32] <ubuntu_> give me a good site to upload 3 screenshots?
[20:32] <elfy> imagebin
[20:33] <RipresaTecn> imgur
[20:33] <well_laid_lawn> postimage
[20:34] <ubuntu_> gahd
[20:34] <ubuntu_> does not work
[20:35] <ubuntu_> wrong file type
[20:35] <ubuntu_> im so happy
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> if it is .JPG with capitals change it to lower case
[20:36] <ubuntu_> png
[20:36] <well_laid_lawn> k
[20:36] <ubuntu_> not even that can go smooth
[20:37] <well_laid_lawn> first time doing something is always the hardest
[20:37] <ubuntu_> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/199/g0j.partition1/
[20:37] <ubuntu_> check if that works
[20:37] <ubuntu_> only site that did not give me error
[20:38] <ubuntu_> well_laid_lawn,
[20:38] <ubuntu_> and here is n2.. it worked this time
[20:38] <ubuntu_> http://imagebin.org/275562
[20:39] <ubuntu_> and n3 http://imagebin.org/275563
[20:40] <ubuntu_> i cant even enter my ssd or my hdd from the live usb.. that is strange
[20:40] <ubuntu_> i do not have permission
[20:41] <well_laid_lawn> did you check the iso and cd you burnt?
[20:41] <well_laid_lawn> !md5
[20:41] <ubuntu_> yeah its ok i have been here before actually with different iso
[20:41] <ubuntu_> it was xubuntu
[20:42] <ubuntu_> and mint
[20:42] <ubuntu_> i cant enter those drives for some reason
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> well, technically speaking, if you are using the ubuntu live cd you should be trying #ubuntu for help
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> it looks like your ssd is ntfs
[20:43] <ubuntu_> is that bad
[20:43] <well_laid_lawn> no
[20:44] <ubuntu_> haha
[20:44] <well_laid_lawn> if you are confident /dev/sdb1 is the win8 install put ubuntu on that
[20:45] <ubuntu_> i could just "replace win 8 with ubuntu".. but my fear is that it tries to put ubuntu on my 500gb somehow
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> yes, some ppl remove other disks to eliminate such chances for errors
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> with a manual install there is less chance for the system to get it wrong
[20:46] <ubuntu_> yeah
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> but a greater chance you will
[20:47] <ubuntu_> hah
[20:47] <ubuntu_> so i should put /dev/sdb to / then
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn> no
[20:47] <well_laid_lawn>  /dev/sdb1
[20:48] <ubuntu_> oh
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn>  /dev/sdb is the disk you don't install to disks
[20:48] <ubuntu_> now im confused
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn>  /dev/sdb1 is a partition, you install to partitions
[20:48] <ubuntu_> oh right
[20:48] <ubuntu_> thanks lol
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[20:49] <ubuntu_> so i can just press /dev/sdb1 .. and chose that for / ? do i need to configure any other drive? swap etc?
[20:49] <ubuntu_> and i should also make the "starthandler" to my 64gb ssd?
[20:50] <ubuntu_> edit partition : ext4 or something?
[20:54] <ubuntu_> Hey.. i chose "replace win8" and after that  i could chose either 500gb hdd or 64gb ssd. to install
[20:54] <ubuntu_> so it will all be good right?
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> sounds like it will
[20:55] <ubuntu_> well shoot here i go
[20:55] <bekks> Since you hopefully made a backup before, you dont have to be concerned.
[20:55] <ubuntu_> bekks, ofc not
[20:55] <bekks> Then you dont have any data worth to be kept and you can continue.
[20:56] <ubuntu_> this is where i should say YOLO but i dont want to seem like a bigger idiot than i already do
[20:56] <ubuntu_> then i already appear to be
[20:56] <ubuntu_> or something
[20:56] <ubuntu_> thanks for the help guys
[20:58] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[21:10] <m3kk> crap
[21:11] <m3kk> File /WINDOWS/system32/winload32 error error cant reboot
[21:13] <well_laid_lawn> hold the power on button down for more than 5 seconds
[21:14] <m3kk> really?
[21:15] <m3kk> should i remove /dev/sda3 ntfs aka the Windows 8 loader? a partition that is fairly ...
[21:15] <m3kk> unesecary
[21:15] <m3kk> sorry english
[21:17] <m3kk> well_laid_lawn: it just .. shuts down again if i hold it down for more than 5 sec
[21:19] <m3kk> nailed it..
[21:33] <m3kk> do i need to unisntall opensource amd drivers before installing fglrx?
[21:59] <bet0x> Hello, my volumen indicator is empty on my panel, how can i fix this? i installed xubuntu-desktop from console
[22:40] <bet0x> where i submit a patch for xubuntu?
[22:41] <ochosi> bet0x: on launchpad
[22:41] <ochosi> for what package?
[22:42] <bet0x> http://www.barrahome.org/2013/11/02/parche-indicador-de-sonido-en-xubuntu-13-10.html
[22:42] <bet0x> the sound indicator is broken
[22:42] <bet0x> i made that small patch wich fix it so now i have my sound control back
[22:42] <ochosi> ah right
[22:42] <ochosi> well there is already a bugreport with a patch for that
[22:43] <bet0x> oh ok
[22:43] <bet0x> wasted my time T_T
[22:43]  * bet0x feeling slow
[22:44] <ochosi> bet0x: depends on your patch
[22:44] <xubuntu841> hi
[22:45] <bet0x> ochosi, was a simple one anyways =p
[22:45] <bet0x> xubuntu841, hi
[22:45] <ochosi> bet0x: well next time feel free to search launchpad first ;)
[22:45] <ochosi> bet0x: here's the bugreport anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[22:46] <xubuntu841> please, do you know which distro runs on old laptop, like non-pae cpu?
[22:46] <ochosi> xubuntu841: i think xubuntu 12.04 (LTS) could, but i'm not sure now
[22:47] <xubuntu841> thanks. i'm trying a lot of distros with no results...
[22:50] <bekks> xubuntu841: 11.10, then update to 12.04
[22:50] <bekks> or 10.04 and update to 12.04
[22:51] <bet0x> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10 then installed xubuntu-desktop
[22:51] <bet0x> and thats when happened


[00:21] <Angelik> Hello, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to post a pug
[00:21] <Angelik> *bug
[00:21] <Angelik> I'm Grant-A, but I've noticed a problem with #ubuntu-read-topic
[00:22] <Angelik> if you change your username, then it no longer redirects you
[00:22] <Angelik> sorry if this is the wrong room to report this
[00:23] <paddy> hhi
[00:24] <paddy> has ikonia still banned me?
[00:24] <paddy> how can I check?
[00:33] <paddy> hey, if anyone is online or sees this, please reply, I'll be waiting around for a reply
[01:20] <paddy_melon> Is anyone here?
[01:20] <bazhang> paddy_melon, yes
[01:30] <bazhang> paddy_melon, you would need to speak with the operator that banned you
[01:31] <paddy_melon> ok
[01:31] <paddy_melon> but, they're offline
[01:32] <paddy_melon> nothing I can do til then?
[01:32] <bazhang> paddy_melon, then you will need to return when they are online
[01:32] <paddy_melon> Can anybody like take a look at whether or not im banned
[01:32] <paddy_melon> not make a call
[01:32] <paddy_melon> just check
[01:32] <paddy_melon> ?
[01:33] <paddy_melon> am I able to check if im banned?
[01:34] <Seeker`> @bansearch paddy_melon
[01:35] <bazhang> Seeker`, he has a cloak since he was banned
[01:37] <Seeker`> @login
[01:38] <bazhang> execute bit?
[01:52] <paddy_melon> huh?
[01:52] <paddy_melon> I think I was banned with the cloack...
[01:52] <paddy_melon> I can't remember
[02:38] <bazhang> paddy_melon, please don't idle here
[02:38] <paddy_melon> ok
[02:39] <paddy_melon> whats execute bit?
[02:39] <paddy_melon> (10:38:58) bazhang: execute bit?
[02:39] <bazhang> paddy_melon, nothing to do with you; a random odd comment from a user in #ubuntu
[02:40] <paddy_melon> oh ok
[02:40] <paddy_melon> @bansearch paddy_melon
[02:40] <paddy_melon> that doesn't work
[02:40] <paddy_melon> if only I was an op
[02:40] <paddy_melon> whats the timezone of Ikonia
[02:41] <bazhang> paddy_melon, come back in 4-5 hours
[02:41] <paddy_melon> oh
[02:41] <paddy_melon> thats a long time
[02:41] <paddy_melon> are U sure U can't just check if im still banned
[02:42] <paddy_melon> I would have been on paddy_melon or paddy-melon or padd1
[02:43] <bazhang> paddy_melon, I did; you are banned still
[02:43] <paddy_melon> oh OK
[02:43] <paddy_melon> I didn't realise that
[02:44] <bazhang> please come back in 4 hours or so
[02:44] <paddy_melon> OK
[02:44] <bazhang> thanks
[02:44] <paddy_melon> thanks for listening to a noob like me
[02:44] <paddy_melon> cya later
[02:44] <bazhang> bye
[02:45] <bazhang> zhxk` ban dodging again PM'd him to ask if this was willful or just an oversight and he admitted it was willful
[02:45] <bazhang> asked him to part the channel and he did so
[02:47] <bazhang> would paddy_melon's cloak allow him to ban dodge?
[02:48] <bazhang> BT shows padd1 as being banned but he is in #ubuntu just now (maybe a glitch in the BT?)
[02:49] <Seeker`> @bansearch padd1
[02:50] <Seeker`> @bansearch paddy_melon
[02:50] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[02:52] <Seeker`> if yuo searched for paddy_melon, all that comes up is a kick
[02:52] <Seeker`> from #ubuntu anyway
[02:53] <Seeker`> if you search for the IP, it comes up with a ban that has been removed
[02:53] <bazhang> padd1 ?
[02:54] <Seeker`> there isn't someone called padd1 in ubuntu
[02:55] <bazhang> Seeker`, I am aware of that
[02:55] <bazhang> he was still banned when he got a cloak, unless I am missing something
[02:56] <bazhang> need Pici or ikonia to weigh in on this
[02:56] <Seeker`> you are referring to both padd1 and paddy_melon; they both appear to be differet people
[02:56] <Seeker`> please clarify whih you are talking about
 I would have been on paddy_melon or paddy-melon or padd1
[02:56] <bazhang> Seeker`, ^^
[02:57] <bazhang> same person
[02:57] <Seeker`> ok
[02:57] <Seeker`> padd1 is still banned in #u
[02:58] <bazhang> this is why I dislike long-term bans
[02:58] <Seeker`> Lastlog:
[02:58] <Seeker`> -04:50:20- ~s~ 299 - #ubuntu: ban pad*!*@<IP_ADDRESS>!#ubuntu-ops by ikonia, 851077 secs ago
[02:58] <Seeker`> why?
[02:58] <Seeker`> -04:50:20- ~s~ 309 - #ubuntu: ban<EMAIL_ADDRESS>by ikonia, 580016 secs ago
[02:58] <Seeker`> End of Lastlog
[03:01] <bazhang> unless it's someone truly beyond care (ie serial trolls like john_nels, et al)
 you are ban dodging?   <zhxk`> maybe    i just want ask a question, i'll out soon
[04:04] <elky> bazhang, if that is today, zhxk may possibly even be kline evading. not sure how long his most recent one was
[04:06] <bazhang> elky, okay thanks; it was a bit over an hour ago
[04:06] <elky> check with staff before throwing accusations around though
[04:07] <bazhang> elky, I will ask now
[04:18] <bazhang> elky, they are checking into the kline issue now
[05:03] <lpiaTape> Hello, I would like to use #ubuntu -- not #kubuntu -- I'm using Freenode Webchat which redirected me to #ubuntu-proxy-users
[06:21] <paddy_melon> hey guys
[06:21] <paddy_melon> is Ikonia on yet?
[06:22] <jussi01> paddy_melon: Im guessing not, its a bit early still. try in 5 or 6 hours
[06:23] <paddy_melon> thats what i got told this morning
[06:23] <paddy_melon> I've been on for about 8 hrs now
[06:24] <jussi01> paddy_melon: well Id give it a minimum of 2 hours.
[06:27] <jussi01> paddy_melon: His tz is something near UTC so give it a few hours, as it is a weekend and he may be sleeping long.
[06:28] <jussi01> !idle | paddy_melon
[06:30] <paddy_melon> OK
[06:30] <paddy_melon> see you
[06:31] <jussi01> Just a rminder to all interested paties that the iRCC meeting is in less than 2 hours in #ubuntu-meeting
[06:58] <Flannel> jpds: For language, see bt entry on it, logs are good.
[06:58] <Flannel> er, logs are valid/etcetc
[06:59] <Flannel> not "Logs are good" but "his logs are good"
[07:08] <Flannel> Howdy apparle, how can we help you today?
[07:09] <apparle> I am using webchat.freenode.net as IRC is blocked in college but am unable to connect to #ubuntu and #kubuntu even the floodbot says now I can try joining but I am again redirected to ubuntu-proxy-users
[07:10] <Flannel> Hmmm, floodbots are doing what they're supposed to do in #ubuntu, can you try joining #ubuntu right now from within the client?
[07:11] <apparle> I use the command '/join #ubuntu' but nothing happens
[07:12] <apparle> I get this in Status window [11:59] == #ubuntu #ubuntu-proxy-users Forwarding to another channel
[07:15] <apparle> are you there??
[07:15] <Flannel> apparle: Yeah.  I just tried it, and I can join just fine.  And it doesn't look like anything else is different.
[07:16] <Flannel> The floodbots do the exact same thing, which is what I'd manually do if they were screwing up.
[07:17] <apparle> I'll check with a diffrent browser
[07:17] <Flannel> apparle: Only thing I notice is that your session seems to be wonky.    Something's going wonky there.
[07:20] <apparle> k
[07:22] <Flannel> Yeah, I see it.
[07:22] <Flannel> Let me manually do it.
[07:22] <Flannel> apparle: alright, try joining now
[07:23] <apparle> :(
[07:23] <Flannel> I manually fixed it, I think.  Doesn't work?
[07:23] <apparle> I get this status
[07:23] <apparle> #kubuntu #ubuntu-proxy-users Forwarding to another channel
[07:23] <Flannel> Oh, I fixed it in #ubuntu
[07:23] <Flannel> I don't have access in #kubuntu
[07:24] <apparle> who has
[07:24] <apparle> ??
[07:26] <apparle> no use changing the browser also
[07:27] <Flannel> jpds, robotgeek, Tm_T, nalioth, fdoving, Mez, ryanakca, mneptok, Pricey, jussi01, Pici, ikonia, genii, Mamarok ^^
[07:27] <apparle> guys plz help
[07:28] <Flannel> What's the question about? is it something #ubuntu would be able to answer?
[07:28] <Flannel> !away > credobyte
[07:29] <apparle> Flannel: Unable to connect to Gtalk using Konversation
[07:32] <apparle> Flannel: I can connect by normal method if I use a diffrent username which is not authenticated. You please try at your side with an authenticated username plzzzzzzzzzz
[07:36] <apparle> Flannel: ??
[07:37] <Flannel> Why not just use an unauthenticated nick for the moment?
[07:37] <Flannel> Or, log in unauthenticated, and then authenticate afterwards
[07:37] <apparle> I'll try
[07:38] <Flannel> Looks like that worked.
[07:45] <Flannel> !away > credobyte
[07:45] <jussi01> wait a sec, since when was konvesation a gtalk client?
[07:45]  * Flannel knows that's on away and back, but I just realised if I don't do it now, I have no way of getting feedback about him doing it again, until he does so.
[07:45] <Flannel> Does Konversation do jabber?
[07:46] <jussi01> konvi is an irc client - much like xchat
[07:46] <Flannel> yeah, I know it does IRC, but does it not do jabber?
[07:46] <jussi01> no, I dont think so, just plain irc
[07:46] <Flannel> Ah, well, then it's not!
[07:46] <jussi01> maybe he is getting mixed up with kopete
[07:47] <bazhang> yep
[07:48] <Mamarok> mrnings
[07:48] <Mamarok> +o
[07:52] <nickrud> this is still chatter town, right?
[07:53] <Flannel> Who runs chatter-town?
[07:53] <bazhang> hehe
[07:53] <Flannel> Master Blaster.
[07:53] <nickrud> how's life been treating you Flannel?
[07:53] <Flannel> nickrud: Pretty good.  Yourself?
[07:54] <jussi01> Amaranth: you really meed to fix that connection...
[07:55] <nickrud> good. work's as good as ever (boss eating out of my hand:) getting some sunlight. Almost tanned
[08:46] <Mamarok> gah, I feel like removing somebody soon... if he continues
[08:46] <bazhang> he is not a new user
[08:47] <Mamarok> my point exactly, if he continues to rant ...
[08:47] <Mamarok> we told him the way to the solution, so everything else is just useless rant
[08:47] <bazhang> he has no point; if he wants to suggest a new factoid, then fine
[08:48] <Mamarok> bazhang: the md5 factoid exists, and the links are there, so just reading it is really not difficult
[08:49] <bazhang> Mamarok, indeed that is true
[08:49] <bazhang> just a couple of clicks and voila
[08:49] <Mamarok> bazhang: two exactly
[08:49] <bazhang> yep
[08:49] <Mamarok> or he volunteers to add the info
[08:50] <Mamarok> anyway, he is quiet now
[09:00] <bazhang> meeting still on?
[09:00] <jussi01> bazhang: did you read -meeting?
[09:01] <bazhang> jussi01, yes, was cancelled at the half hour?
[09:01] <jussi01> correct.
[09:01] <bazhang> thanks.
[09:24] <nickrud> huh. Amaranth 's connection still drops all the time :)
[09:48] <jussi01> !cue is <alias>iso
[09:49] <jussi01> @login
[09:49] <jussi01> !cue is <alias>iso
[09:49]  * jussi01 waits...
[09:49] <jussi01> !cue
[09:49] <jussi01> !cue is <alias>iso
[09:49] <jussi01> thank you...
[09:49] <jussi01> !cue
[09:52] <Mamarok> jussi01: why cue? cue is an index file for music tracks
[09:52] <jussi01> Mamarok: cue as in cue/bin files?
[09:53] <Mamarok> never heard that term anywhere else before I must say
[09:53] <Mamarok> a cue file is an index for me, and if you ask the Amarokers they will all say the same
[10:04] <Flannel> Well, he's pleasant.
[10:06] <Flannel> ToXBoT is having connection problems... do we forward his cloak or his IP?  his cloak catches about... what, 75% of the time?
[10:08] <Gary> you could forward his ident?
[10:08] <Flannel> Mmm, yes.
[10:08] <Gary> that catches 100% of the time :p
[10:08]  * Flannel thinks that's how auto_bleh does forwards anyway.
[10:09] <Flannel> No, it's not.
[10:10] <Flannel> do I include the i= stuff?
[10:11] <Flannel> Ah, I can check floodbot syntax
[10:12] <Flannel> No, that's by nick.
[10:13] <Gary> Flannel: it's the i= stuff you want to forward
[10:13] <Flannel> right, I just didn't know if I included the "i=" or not, but it seems I do
[10:15] <Flannel> embarassing.
[10:16] <Flannel> blah
[10:16] <Flannel> that is too.
[10:17] <Gary> hehe
[10:18] <Flannel> I meant the removal with default reason
[10:18] <Flannel> but, oh well.  I queried him.
[10:19] <Mamarok> jussi01: you still didn't explain why the !cue factoid talks about iso files, makes not much sense to me
[10:20] <jussi01> Mamarok: cue files for certain disk image types - the image conversion thing in !iso talks about how to change them...
[10:20] <Flannel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_(computing)
[10:21] <Mamarok> ok, now I get it :)
[10:21] <Mamarok> thanks
[10:37] <ikonia> what happened to the meeting, I saw jussi01 say it was in 2 hours 4 hours ago, have I got the timezones wrong ?
[10:37] <jussi01> ikonia: we didnt have quorum.
[10:37] <ikonia> I think there is some mix up with the time zones
[10:37] <jussi01> Quite possibly
[10:37] <ikonia> I thought it was "tonight" my time, not this morning
[10:38] <jussi01> well it was on the fridge...
[10:38] <ikonia> did the wiki/fridge times match up?
[10:38] <ikonia> I'm just wondering where I got the wrong info from
[10:38] <ikonia> maybe I just wrote it down wrong, plain and simple
[10:38] <jussi01> that was all correct afaik
[10:39] <jussi01> but I havent checked for certain.
[10:41] <ikonia> probably just my mistake, I was sure it was "night time" for me and day time for the rest, not early morning
[10:42] <ikonia> apologies to all, for my wrong timing
[10:42] <ikonia> my alarm is set to go off later for the meeting, so I must have been quite confident it was later for some reason
[10:46] <jussi01> ikonia: dont worry, there was no meeting, as we only had elky and I from the IRCC there
[12:01] <Timmy2Tall> Hello.
[12:01] <Timmy2Tall> Anyone Home?
[12:09] <elky> 'sup?
[12:36] <Timmy2Tall> elky
[12:37] <Timmy2Tall> un silence me from #ubuntu
[12:37] <elky> Timmy2Tall?
[12:37] <Timmy2Tall> yah
[12:37] <Timmy2Tall> the one and only
[12:39] <Timmy2Tall> elky buddy you got me covered?
[12:40] <elky> Timmy2Tall, that depends. do you plan on being civil, or are you going to persist in greeting people as 'bitches' or 'shit-heads'?
[12:40] <elky> !guidelines
[12:40] <Timmy2Tall> lol how do you remember that.
[12:41] <elky> Timmy2Tall, we look after so many channels that we have a script that tracks bans and kicks so we can remember stuff like that.
[12:42] <Timmy2Tall> Yah i'll be civil. i'm done being a smartass.
[12:42] <elky> Do you plan to behave as per the guidelines at the URL that ubottu quoted?
[12:42] <Timmy2Tall> I've learned the way of this server threw much research.
[12:43] <elky> Timmy2Tall, that does not answer my question
[12:43] <elky> please go and read the guidelines at the above url
[12:43] <Timmy2Tall> Yes elky, i want to live the way of the ubuntu code.
[12:44] <elky> Timmy2Tall, i'm not entirely convinced you've read them. i'd hate to have you agree to something you had not read.
[12:44] <Timmy2Tall> I did elky. last time i had this conversation.
[12:44] <Timmy2Tall> Very intresting stuff.
[12:45] <Timmy2Tall> Have I not been a nuisence these last couple of days?
[12:48] <elky> ok, the mute is lifted on a probationary basis. one slip and it's a full ban, ok?
[12:52] <elky> Timmy2Tall, there's no need for you to remain here.
[12:53] <Timmy2Tall> oh sorry i was grabbing a bite to eat.  We have this policy to avoid having audiences for people with issues.
[13:01] <Timmy2Tall> Gotcha. I'll create a room and we'll all kick back in there. i'll let you know what it is.
[13:02] <bazhang> sheesh
[13:02] <elky> does someone want to see who he used to be?
[13:02] <bazhang> ok
[13:02] <elky> as in, find out. because i'm not convinced he's a new issue.
[13:02] <gnomefreak> he was a pain the other day, i remember him under that nick
[13:03] <bazhang> oh was he ban dodging earlier using the nick John Henry?
[13:03] <elky> yeah, he's the "waddup bitches" idjit
[13:03] <elky> dunno
[13:03] <gnomefreak> bazhang: that was used as his real name too in /whois
[13:03] <bazhang> gnomefreak, going to scour the BT
[13:04] <elky> note that i only unmuted in #u. he's still out of #u-ot
[13:04] <gnomefreak> bazhang: good luck he uses a few hosts IIRC
[13:04] <bazhang> ok
[13:04] <elky> then if he starts his own little nest, we'll be able to keep track
[13:05] <gnomefreak> we should have told him no #ubuntu namespace. but im sure it will have something like #ops-....
[13:05] <gnomefreak> ill be back
[14:04] <bazhang> imghelp? thought he was banned
[14:06] <bazhang> ah it was removed
[14:15] <gnomefreak> bazhang: did you remove it when you cleaned out your bans or was it not you that cleaned them out
[14:19] <bazhang> gnomefreak, sorry, just saw him enter and exit #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:21] <gnomefreak> ah just thought he was your ban and you may have removed it the other day when you cleaned up
[15:04] <ToXBoT_> Flannel, Hi!
[15:05] <ToXBoT_> Flannel, I hope you didn't mistood me as a bot
[15:05] <ikonia> I think your connection is having a problem
[15:06] <ToXBoT_> ikonia, Its a problem of the overheated smps supply
[15:06] <ikonia> may want to fix that, your joining/parting a lot
[15:07] <ToXBoT_> Yes, I need to fix it as it resets my router.
[15:07] <ToXBoT_> Will pary with #ubuntu when its fixed. Sorry for the trouble!
[15:07] <ToXBoT_> part*
[15:07] <ikonia> it's not a problem, I'm just guessing why Flannel removed you
[15:07] <ikonia> Flannel: is the best person to ask
[15:09] <ToXBoT_> ikonia and Flannel, I hope you all remove any ban (if any) imposed on my nick. Though I'll join #ubuntu when I get my SMPS fixed.
[15:09] <ikonia> I don't see a ban
[15:09] <ikonia> ahhh yes
[15:10] <ikonia> there is a forward to ##fix_your_connection
[15:10] <ikonia> ToXBoT_: let us know when the connection is fixed
[15:10] <ToXBoT_> Okays! :)
[15:11] <ToXBoT_> Thanks for the support though, you all do a great job running #ubuntu.


[00:26] <jakew02> has anyone encountered incompatible types / invalid binanry operand errors after enabling all of the recommend configs in the kernel ?
[00:26] <jakew02> using nexus 6 3.10 kernel + the added enabled configs per the script on the wiki
[00:38] <ahoneybun> anyone have a working port for the OnePlus One?
[00:39] <mariogrip> I'm working on it
[00:40] <ahoneybun> oh cool mariogrip
[00:40] <mariogrip> https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/wip-ubuntu-touch-for-oneplus-one.266170
[00:40] <mariogrip> I have the terminal working
[00:41] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: I ordered mine a few days ago
[00:41] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: ping
[00:42] <mariogrip> ahoneybun: Cool!
[00:42] <ahayzen__> ahayzen__, pong
[00:42] <ahayzen__> arg
[00:42] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, pong
[00:42] <ahoneybun> mariogrip: yep still in processing at the moment
[00:42] <ahoneybun> how are you ahayzen__
[00:42] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, good thanks you ?
[00:42] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: pretty good
[00:43]  * ahoneybun wishes he had a working N4
[00:43] <nhaines> mariogrip: oh, that's great!  I had a few people ask about that at SCALE, and I said with the new porting guide, I gave it maybe one month, two tops.
[00:43] <ahayzen__> heh
[00:43] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, buy a Bq ;)
[00:43] <nhaines> By the way, I had the bq Aquaris Ubuntu Edition all weekend.  It's very, very nice.
[00:44] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: I'm in the US
[00:44] <ahayzen__> ah damn :/
[00:44] <ahoneybun> yea
[00:44] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: I had a idea for an app
[00:45] <mariogrip> nhaines: The terminal is working, but i still have some problem with display.
[00:45] <nhaines> mariogrip: it's a start!
[00:45] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: a Barcode scanner for grocery shopping
[00:45] <RobbyF2> adb functional?
[00:45] <mariogrip> nhaines: Yeah!
[00:45] <RobbyF2> :0
[00:45] <ahoneybun> so you dont have to carry the coupons ahayzen__
[00:45] <mariogrip> YEA robbyf2!
[00:45] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, that'd be cool :)
[00:46] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, IIRC the 'Tagger' app can read barcodes? and even supports content-hub?
[00:46] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: I have never made an app that uses the hardware
[00:46] <ahoneybun> idk
[00:46] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 We can now start hacking into the user interface! got your repo working?
[00:46] <RobbyF2> gj mariogrip
[00:46] <RobbyF2> yup
[00:47] <ahoneybun> if the OS can read QR codes I dont see why it cant read barcodes
[00:47] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, yeah the tagger app can read barcodes :)
[00:47] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: does it save to the storage?
[00:48] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 we need to get qcom/display working! kinda need to port it from cyanogen prison...
[00:48] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, in the app it gives you the options to 'search online', 'copy to clipboard' and 'generate QR code'
[00:48] <RobbyF2> my buddy is good at that
[00:48] <ahoneybun> oh ok but put the item in a search able listitem or something
[00:49] <ahoneybun> can you can pull up the barcode so the cashier can scane it
[00:49] <RobbyF2> mariogrip: push your updates along with those fixes i mentioned.
[00:49] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, it does save your 'previously scanned' but it could be presented/optimised nicer for a cashier
[00:50] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, its primarily just an app to read/create QR/Barcodes
[00:50] <ahoneybun> yea thats what I mean it would be cool
[00:50] <mariogrip> Jup, i need to do some clean up on my repo, it's a mess :P give me some minutes
[00:50] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 ^
[00:50] <ahoneybun> yea so do you think it would justify making a stand alone app?
[00:50] <RobbyF2> :)
[00:51] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, probably if you think it would be useful :) it would be fun to make as well
[00:51] <ahoneybun> yea I have no exp using hardware sensers though
[00:51] <nhaines> ahoneybun: do you want to?
[00:52] <ahoneybun> it would be very useful
[00:52] <ahoneybun> nhaines: I would like to take a good shot at it
[00:52]  * ahoneybun is installing the SDK right now
[00:53] <RobbyF2> mariogrip: about to flash one of my friends images for the first time
[00:53] <nhaines> ahoneybun: I need to learn Javascript so I can write some phone apps.  But what little I've used of the SDK (to make a webapp) was quite pleasant.
[00:54] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 For Ubuntu or Android?
[00:54] <ahoneybun> yea I made a simple QML app
[00:54] <RobbyF2> ubuntu
[00:54] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 oneplus one?
[00:55] <RobbyF2> ya
[00:55] <mariogrip> how does that work
[00:55] <RobbyF2> just images by the looks of it
[00:55] <RobbyF2> backing up my rom first then will flash
[00:56] <RobbyF2> mariogrip: can it be made into an otapackage ?
[00:57] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: my app just hit 193 users so far
[00:57] <ahayzen__> ahoneybun, awesome well done :)
[00:57] <ahoneybun> ahayzen__: yep you should check it out :)
[00:58] <mariogrip> RobbyF2, no, with vivid
[00:58] <ahayzen__> hehe
[00:58] <mariogrip> before you could do that
[00:58] <RobbyF2> ok
[00:59] <RobbyF2> what do we all flash, boot.img system.img persist.img userdata.img ramdisk.img
[00:59] <nhaines> My advice is don't port vivid until it's even working on the reference hardware.
[00:59] <RobbyF2> just those?
[00:59] <nhaines> Which maybe is a couple of weeks.
[01:00] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 just boot.img! then use rootstock
[01:01] <mariogrip> $ bzr branch lp:project-rootstock-ng [rootsock_trunk_path]
[01:01] <mariogrip> $ ROOTFS="utopic-preinstalled-touch-armhf.tar.gz"
[01:01] <mariogrip> $ wget -c "http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/$ROOTFS" -O "$OUT/$ROOTFS"
[01:01] <mariogrip> $ $ROOTSTOCK_DIR/rootstock-touch-install "$OUT/$ROOTFS" "$OUT/system.img"
[01:02] <mariogrip> RobbyF2 When i release this for oneplus i will be using system servers
[01:02] <RobbyF2> noice!
[01:02] <mariogrip> Then it's just one simple command
[01:03] <RobbyF2> yup
[01:15] <jholtom> why on earth would my work on porting ubuntu touch, doesn't include the include folder of my kernel?
[01:15] <mariogrip> I have the same issue right now? qcom/display
[01:16] <jholtom> yeah
[01:16] <jholtom> and several others, just cause it misses the standard kernel includes
[01:16] <jholtom> mariogrip: any idea why?
[01:17] <mariogrip> jholtom: nope, trying to find it out
[01:18] <jholtom> hm, yeah
[01:20] <jholtom> I can't quite figure it
[01:20] <jholtom> because their standard builds all don't quite make sense
[01:20] <jholtom> I'm coming from an android build background, having done this a couple years ago
[01:24] <mariogrip> I see is's only msm files
[01:24] <mariogrip> it's*
[01:24] <jholtom> yeah
[01:24] <jholtom> those are all in your standard kernel/[manufacturer]/[device]/include
[01:24] <jholtom> so for whatever reason
[01:24] <jholtom> its not including that directory in the search path
[01:25] <mariogrip> so just copy the msm file that is missing into that same folder where the file is. and edit from include <linux/blala> "linux/blala"
[01:25] <mariogrip> aka the lazy method
[01:25] <jholtom> yeah
[01:25] <jholtom> but, I think I found the right way (or sorta) in a make file
[01:27] <mariogrip> i see that the mpd_version.h is kinda (maybe) broken... http://hastebin.com/kizedirohi.mel
[01:27] <jholtom> oh hey
[01:27] <jholtom> I did find the right way to include the crap
[01:28] <jholtom> its in hardware/qcom/display/common.mk
[01:28] <mariogrip> ah
[01:28] <jholtom> kernel_includes := kernel/[manufacturer]/[device]
[01:28] <jholtom> except replace those with your device
[01:28] <jholtom> I don't know that the variables are so I didn't bother, just hard coded
[01:28] <jholtom> but, yeah, it looks like some of thses includes are hosed
[01:29] <mariogrip> why didn't they just add $(TARGET_OUT_INTERMEDIATES)/KERNEL_OBJ/usr/include
[01:29] <RobbyF2> is it fussy about the recovery?
[01:29] <jholtom> mariogrip: they did
[01:29] <jholtom> its in the bottom half
[01:29] <mariogrip> no, it's about qcom display
[01:30] <mariogrip> jholtom, Oh yeah
[01:30] <jholtom> but thats only if a certain variable is defined
[01:30] <jholtom> so idk if it actually gets pulled in fro most people
[01:31] <jholtom> I still don't know why this crap is failing though
[01:31] <mariogrip> still don't know why it's just msm_blabal shit that is not pulled to KERNEL_OBJ
[01:32] <jholtom> mhm
[01:32] <jholtom> who the hell designed this tree?
[01:32] <mariogrip> who knows
[01:37] <jakew02> how.. "important" is the CONFIG_USER_NS config? extremely vital or.. whatever?
[01:38] <mariogrip> I guess is used to get the container to work
[01:39] <jakew02> hm, kernel was breaking due to kuid : uid mismatching, disabling that allowed it to compile fine,
[01:39] <mariogrip> I guess i will boot fine, just that *_NS is so it can support containers
[01:40] <tmpRAOF> I'm not sure it'll even boot fine? We run various android bits in a container.
[01:43] <mariogrip> Yeah, maybe. not really know about the user_NS
[01:43]  * mariogrip saying just try! it does not hurt :)
[01:44] <RobbyF2> lol
[01:44] <RobbyF2> went to reboot in shell
[01:44] <RobbyF2> I was in terminal not adb shell
[01:44] <mariogrip> lol xD
[01:46] <mariogrip> jholtom: btw, here is an workaround for mpd_version.h http://hastebin.com/ibopovobod.vala
[01:46] <mariogrip> if you get that error
[01:46] <mariogrip> this error: http://hastebin.com/kizedirohi.mel
[01:46] <jholtom> i did get that error
[01:46] <jholtom> but, I haven't figured out why all those aren't being included correctly yet
[01:46] <jholtom> I'd rather sort that before patching more bugs
[01:47] <mariogrip> Yeah, i just trowing that out there
[01:47] <jakew02> yea, still no boot :\
[01:48] <jakew02> system is totally unpopulated except for lost+found
[01:49] <mariogrip> jakew02 do you have adb shell=
[01:49] <mariogrip> ?
[01:49] <jakew02> nothing
[01:49] <mariogrip> bootloop?
[01:50] <jakew02> not passing the splash screen
[01:50] <jakew02> probably because this is using a 4.4.2 base
[01:50] <RobbyF2> hmm my flash failed to flash system
[01:50] <mariogrip> pull last_kmsg form recovery
[01:51] <RobbyF2> - exec /system/bin.sh' failed no such file or directory
[01:51] <RobbyF2> back to the drawing board
[01:53] <jakew02> mariogrip, me?
[01:54] <mariogrip> you too
[01:54] <mariogrip> last_kmsg is the log
[01:54] <mariogrip> log of last boot
[01:54] <mariogrip> so you can get some answerers for there
[02:00] <jakew02> how are you flashing the system after building the android system
[02:00] <jakew02> rootstock-ng?
[02:00] <mariogrip> yes
[02:01] <mariogrip> or you can raplace system.img inside /var/lib/lxc/android
[02:01] <mariogrip> then you need to mount /data/system.img
[02:01] <mariogrip> if you're using recovery
[02:02] <jakew02> yea, twrp
[02:02] <mariogrip> mount -o loop cache/system /data/system.img
[02:02] <mariogrip> first mkdri cache/system
[02:02] <mariogrip> mkdir***
[02:02] <mariogrip> then you can cd cache/system
[02:02] <mariogrip> where all ubuntu files will be
[02:03] <jakew02> ok so the android system is still mounting to /system then ?
[02:04] <mariogrip> the filesystem is completely different mounted in recovery the ubuntu mounts it
[02:04] <jakew02> yea,
[02:04] <mariogrip> so, /system in recovery, has noting to do with ubuntu
[02:04] <jakew02> even if it's mounted?
[02:05] <jakew02> i used rootstock-ng with vivid + the compiled system.img and mounting /system/ is totally empty
[02:05] <jakew02> so no last_kmsg either
[02:05] <mariogrip> yeah
[02:05] <mariogrip> mount -o loop cache/system /data/system.img
[02:05] <mariogrip> do that
[02:05] <mariogrip> than ubuntu file system will be at cache/system
[02:06] <jakew02> rootstock is supposed to be pushing the andriod system.img to /data im assuming
[02:06] <mariogrip> last_kmsg is common on recovery and ubuntu
[02:06] <jakew02> its not there so i need to push that i guess
[02:07] <mariogrip> rootstock makes a system.img of vivid-preinstalled and then puts system.img into var/lib/lxc/android
[02:07] <mariogrip> so, there is two system.img
[02:07] <jakew02> is that created system.img from vivid saved anywhere or no
[02:07] <mariogrip> in data
[02:07] <jakew02> im greppign for it now
[02:07] <jakew02> yea it's not there
[02:08] <jakew02> just media
[02:08] <mariogrip> then, the install did not go well
[02:08] <mariogrip> humm
[02:10] <jakew02> im following it now
[02:10] <jakew02> it's pushed the tarball to /recovery..
[02:12] <jakew02> yea failing at adding android system to installation it seems
[02:14] <mariogrip> try to do the steps by your self, using the source of rootstock
[02:15] <mariogrip> here is a quick mod of it: http://hastebin.com/aloqoqodom.php it will give you some more feedback
[02:15] <jakew02> yea, i added some echo's
[02:16] <jakew02> i followed it and found it extracted system to /cache/system before failing, then continuing the script removes it
[02:16] <mariogrip> you need to remove >dev/null so you get the outputs
[02:16] <jakew02> w/ cleanup_device
[02:16] <RobbyF> mariogrip, I cant flash mine right now, want to try mine ?
[02:18] <mariogrip> RobbyF did you compile with qcom/display? we need that
[02:18] <jholtom> mariogrip: any idea why no msm headers?
[02:18] <mariogrip> i kinda have to sleep soon too 03:18 :DDDD
[02:19] <RobbyF> mariogrip, seems so
[02:19] <jholtom> oh dear
[02:19] <mariogrip> jholtom: No, it looks like qcom/display is kinda broken
[02:19] <jholtom> oh ok
[02:19] <jholtom> wonder what happens if I pull in some working one like cm's
[02:20] <mariogrip> yeah, maybe
[02:20] <jakew02> ok,
[02:20] <jakew02> failed to allocate blocks
[02:20] <RobbyF> mariogrip,  http://downloads.hostingsharedbox.com/robbyf/ubuntu-touch/system.img
[02:21] <RobbyF> I'm having same issue as jakew02  with flashing
[02:21] <mariogrip> RobbyF: 132MB i guess then qcom/display is not with it, but i can try anyway
[02:21] <jakew02> RobbyF, you are using rootstock-ng right
[02:21] <RobbyF> ya
[02:21] <jakew02> not the other script linked in the porting guide?
[02:21] <jakew02> ok
[02:21] <jakew02> can you use this one
[02:22] <jakew02> it iwll print all the steps, curious as to whether you're getting the same problem i am
[02:22] <jholtom> mariogrip: same errors using cm's known working display lib
[02:22] <jakew02> http://hastebin.com/eyuhutapuz.php
[02:23] <RobbyF> rofl, small world, jake and i know each other
[02:24] <mariogrip> jholtom: Then... ehm...
[02:25] <jakew02> jholtom, using the cm kernel will depend heavily on caf
[02:25] <jakew02> for most frameworks and hal's
[02:25] <mariogrip> jholtom:I'm just modifying it using my mad c++ skills, hehe :P
[02:26] <jakew02> mariogrip, ok, so this: http://hastebin.com/anukonumim.sm
[02:26] <jakew02> RobbyF, see if that's your error as well
[02:26] <jholtom> jakew02: oh dear, shit
[02:26] <jholtom> this is going to be a huge PITA
[02:26] <mariogrip> jholtom i have workaround for some of mine
[02:27] <jholtom> yeah
[02:27] <mariogrip> need some
[02:27] <jholtom> my issues is that I'm going to have to fucking redo my kernel
[02:27] <RobbyF2> jakew02: I stepped away from the desktop at the moment
[02:27] <jakew02> jholtom, well, essentially you "should" be able to just use the CM HAL's as well,
[02:28] <jakew02> since this should (to my knowledge) all be stuff handled by the android side of things, it shouldn't present an issue
[02:28] <jakew02> i have no clue tohugh
[02:28] <mariogrip> I guess is best to stick to aosp
[02:28] <jholtom> well bitch
[02:28] <jholtom> I'
[02:28] <jakew02> since the rest of the system is 4.4.2, you should use the cm-11.0 hardware/qcom/display/media/audio
[02:28] <jakew02> frameworks/base/av/native
[02:28] <jakew02> hardware/libhardware
[02:28] <jholtom> yeah
[02:28] <jakew02> and maybe 1 or 2 others
[02:29] <jholtom> all theory
[02:29] <mariogrip> don't blend cm into it, that might cause more problems when you need to blend more cm into it and so on
[02:29] <jholtom> I guess I'll just go build a proper aosp kernel for this thing
[02:29] <jholtom> fucking g3
[02:29] <mariogrip> what device are you building for?
[02:29] <jholtom> ls990 (g3)
[02:30] <jholtom> I was the first to get cm11/cm12 building on it
[02:30] <jholtom> never did a pure aosp build for it though
[02:30] <mariogrip> nice!
[02:30] <jholtom> now, I'm going to crash my way back through this godforsaken mess
[02:30] <jholtom> I quit when they hard depended on NEON
[02:30] <jholtom> and now, I've slowly changed my ways
[02:30] <mariogrip> :P
[02:31] <mariogrip> just ask if you get any errors, i might have a workaround
[02:31] <jholtom> yeah
[02:31] <RobbyF2> houst0n was first
[02:31] <jakew02> jholtom, g2 was VERY close to AOSP as far as i reember
[02:31] <jholtom> RobbyF2: yeah
[02:31] <jakew02> so g3 hopefully won't be too far off
[02:31] <jholtom> probably, but he never bothered to share his work on the ls990 with anyone
[02:31] <RobbyF2> < I was his tester, he uses my servers
[02:31] <jholtom> so, I was the first to actually toss the source out there for someone else to use
[02:31] <RobbyF2> ya
[02:32] <jholtom> RobbyF2: we love you
[02:32] <RobbyF2> he is always so f'n lazy
[02:32] <jholtom> ikr
[02:32] <jholtom> great guy though
[02:32] <RobbyF2> ya
[02:32] <jholtom> far better dev than I will ever be
[02:32] <jholtom> RobbyF2: is that what you're building for here too?
[02:32] <RobbyF2> opo
[02:32] <jholtom> oh
[02:32] <jholtom> fuck that
[02:32] <RobbyF2> lol
[02:32] <jholtom> I sunk enough time into this g3
[02:32] <RobbyF2> I have tons of devices.
[02:32] <jholtom> I'll keep on going
[02:32] <jholtom> RobbyF2: ls990 or something else?
[02:32] <RobbyF2> 852
[02:33] <jholtom> oh ok
[02:33] <mariogrip> opo ftw
[02:33] <jholtom> did houst0nn ever build for the ls990?
[02:33] <RobbyF2> nope
[02:33] <jholtom> oh
[02:33] <jholtom> yeah, thats why I said I had firsts
[02:33] <jholtom> others got it on the other devices
[02:33] <RobbyF2> well, one for autoprime
[02:33] <RobbyF2> not sure what variant he had
[02:33] <jholtom> not eh ls990
[02:33] <RobbyF2> tmo I think
[02:33] <jholtom> fucking sprint has no love
[02:33] <jholtom> everyone else had it
[02:33] <jholtom> we're always last
[02:34] <RobbyF2> ya
[02:34] <jholtom> ah well
[02:34] <jholtom> maybe we can be first to the utouch game
[02:34] <jholtom> :P
[02:34] <RobbyF2> hope so
[02:34] <RobbyF2> progress is happening
[02:35] <RobbyF2> mariogrip is doing great work so far!
[02:35] <jholtom> yeah
[02:35] <RobbyF2> I'm not a real dev, i'm trying to learn
[02:35] <jholtom> I'm beyond pissed at this tree
[02:35] <jholtom> its just so full of shit
[02:35] <jakew02> ok, i got this
[02:35] <jakew02> makefs_ext4 is failing
[02:36] <RobbyF2> :)
[02:36]  * mariogrip is stubborn, he never gives up!
[02:37] <mariogrip> yeah, it's a weird tree
[02:37] <jakew02> mariogrip,
[02:37] <jakew02> so make_ext4fs -l 120M $WORKDIR/system.img $TMPMOUNT
[02:37] <jakew02> the 120M, where is that derived from
[02:38] <jakew02> it's the system size but, what should i reference for the correct size
[02:38] <mariogrip> Yeah
[02:39] <mariogrip> I guess it's enough
[02:39] <mariogrip> but you can alway increase it
[02:40] <mariogrip> jakew02 ^
[02:41] <jakew02> well, it's failing
[02:41] <jakew02> at that command
[02:42] <mariogrip> any error i can look at?
[02:42] <jakew02> yea
[02:42] <jakew02> just
[02:42] <jakew02> error: do_inode_allocate_extents: FAiled to allocate 810 blocks
[02:43] <jakew02> at that makefs_ext4 line
[02:44] <mariogrip> do you have enough space in the partition?
[02:45] <mariogrip> user partition
[02:45] <jakew02> oh damn
[02:45]  * jakew02 facepalm of the century
[02:46] <jakew02> yea 19gb
[02:46] <jakew02> free
[02:46] <RobbyF2> hey jake, how you going to do that if there is no KK
[02:46] <jakew02> what
[02:47] <RobbyF2> port 4.4.2
[02:47] <jakew02> well, right now i'm just modifying the kernel and device tree so it compiles
[02:47] <jakew02> with what was syned via the phablet
[02:47] <jakew02> repo
[02:47] <jakew02> *manifest
[02:48] <mariogrip> jakew02, AH! make_ext4fs is on you host!
[02:49] <mariogrip> do you have enough space on you host?
[02:49] <mariogrip> host = your pc
[02:50] <RobbyF2> 810 blocks is small
[02:50] <mariogrip> yeah, it is
[02:50] <jakew02> yea i have too much space locally
[02:50] <mariogrip> this is weird, what version of ub?
[02:50] <mariogrip> on host
[02:51] <jakew02> 14.10
[02:51] <mariogrip> is it up to date?
[02:51] <jakew02> yea
[02:51] <jakew02> im looking at this: http://goo.gl/HbThvC
[02:51] <jakew02> psts 5 and 6
[02:52] <mariogrip> ehm, then  it might be something wrong with your system.img
[02:52] <jakew02> i was thinking it might be twrp's makefs_ext4 is newer
[02:53] <jakew02> the system.img is 349mb
[02:53] <jakew02> about right
[02:54] <mariogrip> weird, i don't know
[02:56] <jakew02> hm
[02:56] <jakew02> i tihnk i just need to find the right size
[03:02] <jakew02> sweet
[03:03] <RobbyF2> got it?
[03:04]  * mariogrip need to go to seep, cya tomorrow
[03:05] <RobbyF2> see mariogrip
[03:05] <mariogrip> bye all
[03:15] <jakew02> RobbyF, not yet, progress
[03:16] <jakew02> no space left on device error now
[06:43] <seb128> !
[07:43] <dholbach> good morning
[07:47] <nhaines> dholbach: good morning!
[07:47] <dholbach> hi nhaines
[07:51] <nhaines> dholbach: I got to show off the bq phone all weekend.  :)
[07:53] <dholbach> yeah, I saw some pictures
[07:53] <dholbach> well done everyone :)
[08:08] <nhaines> dholbach: thanks!  It was fun.  :)
[08:09] <dholbach> that's what the pictures looked like :)
[08:35] <nhaines> Tassadar: good morning!
[09:10] <mvo> bzoltan_: there is a new click in silo 016, if you want to test prior to the vivid landing feel free
[09:11] <mvo> bzoltan_: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/+sourcepub/4797063/+listing-archive-extra <- is the diff, iirc you may like the --ignore option
[09:34] <willcooke> hey ogra_ have you got some time to help me unstick my flo?  I think the cosmic rays got inside and now it wont do anything other than bootloader and fastboot - adb can't see it, only fastboot can
[09:34] <ogra_> willcooke, well, do you want to re-flash ?
[09:34] <ogra_> then just use --bootstrap while the device is in fastboot mode
[09:34] <willcooke> ogra_, I dont think I have a choice do I?  But yeah, I want to reflash
[09:35] <ogra_> (wipes the device indeed)
[09:35] <willcooke> oki
[09:35] <willcooke> lets see what happens...
[09:37] <willcooke> ogra_, seems to be working :) thanks
[09:40] <willcooke> ogra_, uh oh
[09:40] <ogra_> ?
[09:40] <willcooke> ogra_, now I have a picture of a chip on the screen with a cross through it
[09:40] <willcooke> "This phone needs restoring from a PC or a service centre"
[09:41] <ogra_> never seen that
[09:41] <ogra_> try to boot to recovery
[09:42] <willcooke> ok, that's worked - I'm in recovery
[09:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Single Tasking Day! :-D
[09:51] <mvo> bzoltan_: the click tests look good, I will publish later today (unless you find a issue)
[09:59] <popey> pitti: sorry to say but I have just re-tried your adt magic and it still fails for me... http://paste.ubuntu.com/10386438/
[10:00] <pitti> --setup-commands "apt-get update"
[10:00] <pitti> that doesn't work
[10:00] <pitti> as the device is read-only
[10:00] <pitti> popey: use the documented --setup-commands ro-apt-update
[10:00] <popey> ah
[10:00] <popey> thanks
[10:00] <popey> i mispasted, sorry
[10:00] <pitti> popey: that switches to r/w, runs apt-get update, runs it again if the first attempt fails (dreaded hash sum mismatch), and then mounts r/o again
[10:01] <pitti> 'orrible hack that
[10:01] <popey> agreed :)
[10:01] <popey> the wiki page isn't particularly clear
[10:01] <popey> "you can use adt-run --setup-commands ro-apt-update --click ... to temporarily switch the device to r/w "
[10:02] <popey> so adt-run --setup-commands ro-apt-update --click com.ubuntu.clock --- ssh -s adb
[10:02] <popey> ?
[10:03] <pitti> popey: yes; wiki updated, is that clearer?
[10:03] <pitti> ("more clear"?)
[10:03] <popey> the "..." implies I add the rest of the parameters, as above?
[10:03] <willcooke> ogra_, any ideas what to do once I'm in recovery mode?
[10:04] <ogra_> willcooke, run u-d-f again (without --bootstrap this time)
[10:04] <pitti> popey: yes, i. e. specify which package to test and what to test it on
[10:05] <willcooke> ogra_, right ho - trying...
[10:06] <l3on> Hi!.. I'm getting this error while I try to run my scope in a ubuntu-mobile-emulator http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/10386493/
[10:07] <l3on> in my .click package the .so file exists, the scope on ubuntu has the right name (so in some way the .ini file is read correctly)..
[10:07] <willcooke> ogra_, looks more encouraging this time!  Fingers crossed...
[10:08] <popey> pitti: that fails for me.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/10386529/
[10:08] <willcooke> ogra_, ha!  I spoke to soon, I'm back to the chip with the red line through it
[10:10] <willcooke> ogra_, I have the big Ubuntu logo spinning round for a while, then the chip of death appeared
[10:11] <pitti> popey: hmm, works here; can you please re-run with -d? adt-run -d --setup-commands ro-apt-update --click com.ubuntu.clock --- ssh -s adb
[10:14] <popey> sure
[10:14] <pitti> adt-run [11:14:39]: ERROR: unexpected error: "click info --user phablet com.ubuntu.clock" failed with stderr "click_query_error-quark: Failed to canonicalize com.ubuntu.clock: No such file or directory (0)
[10:15] <pitti> popey: for me it does the update, and then fails with that ^; possibly I don't have that app installed?
[10:15] <popey> hmm
[10:15] <popey> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ click list | grep clock
[10:15] <popey> com.ubuntu.clock	3.2.165
[10:15] <popey> you should, it's pre-installed
[10:15] <pitti> ah, seems I don't
[10:16] <popey> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10386645/ with -d
[10:16] <pitti> yep
[10:16] <pitti> popey: so that's not the same error at all
[10:16] <pitti> popey: you now run into the very thing I mentioned: uninstallability
[10:17] <pitti> i. e. conflict between what's installed on your image, and what the vivid archive now has
[10:17] <pitti> popey: so I'm afraid your image is too old to be testable
[10:17] <pitti> popey: but regardless of that http://paste.ubuntu.com/10386529/ looks really weird
[10:19] <popey> its a clean install on a nexus 7 done with ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/vivid --wipe
[10:19] <popey> this morning
[10:19] <pitti> popey: yeah, I guess they haven't had a promotion in ages?
[10:19] <popey> ok, so I'll try proposed, thanks.
[10:19] <pitti> -proposed usually works, as they are more or less daily
[10:20] <popey> pitti: appreciate the help
[10:20] <pitti> popey: you just saw our fundamental contradiction between our images and our archive server :/
[10:21] <pitti> popey: so if you get the weird "ro-apt-update --click: not found" issue again, I'd like to investigate that (never saw that one, and I don't have an immediate idea about it)
[10:21] <popey> ok
[10:31] <AskUbuntu> Is it possible to take raw-images with Ubuntu phone? | http://askubuntu.com/q/589231
[10:31] <popey> pitti: re-flashed device and now it fails differently (without the ro-apt-update)
[10:31] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10386820/
[10:32] <popey> looks like the device dropped of the cable...
[10:38] <ogra_> willcooke, sorry, no idea what that is, i have never seen such behavior ... are you sure its a flo and not a grouper ?
[10:38] <willcooke> ogra_, yup - sure.  joc is helping me now too :) thanks for the assistance
[10:38] <ogra_> good luck
[10:38] <willcooke> :) thanks
[10:38] <willcooke> I'll let you know how we fix it, assuming we do
[10:49] <l3on> what's this -> unity::ResourceException: /opt/click.ubuntu.com/doreuniboit.l3on/0.1/dore.unibo.it/libdoreuniboit.l3on_dore.unibo.it.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK5unity6scopes9ScopeBase12child_scopesEv ?
[10:50] <l3on> it comes from my emulator .. click is installed via qtcreator
[11:06] <bzoltan_> mvo:  The silo is good to land. Thank you
[11:07] <l3on> Ok.. I found it .. it's because the click package is build against 14.10, while the emulators runs over 15.04 .. now if I set 15.04 in the project .ini file I get this error:
[11:08] <l3on>  security_policy_version_matches_framework Invalid framework 'ubuntu-core-15.04'
[11:08] <l3on> what's wrong ?
[11:17] <g105b> I'm going to buy a phone as soon as it goes on sale, but I'm not sure I will know when the next sale will happen... is there a mailing list?
[11:23] <popey> g105b: no, there is @ubuntu and @bqreaders on twitter, that's all
[11:27] <g105b> popey: I really need to work out how Twitter works then :) Unless I watch all the nonsense all day every day, I'll miss it.
[11:29] <popey> the announcement happens usually the day before
[13:21] <adrian47> hello, my ports work not bad now :) I have problem to get working phone and sound how can I debug it?
[13:21] <adrian47> port*
[13:33] <charles> nik90, renatu: I don't know what's going on with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1424924 but wanted to give you a heads up on the ticket at least
[13:35] <renatu> charles, thanks, I will take a look on it
[13:35] <renatu> charles, If I save the event as: RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY;BYDAY=MO,TU,WE,TH,FR it will fix the problem?
[13:40] <charles> renatu, I'm editing tasks.ics with different permutations now to see what triggers it
[13:51] <charles> renatu, unfortunately I'm out of time, I have AFK appointments this morning :/
[13:51] <charles> renatu, nik90, I'll look at this more tonight
[13:52] <renatu> charles, thanks, I will try to debug it too
[14:23] <adrian47> How can i create SWAP.img file? when usign dd i am getting error ' it appears yo have holes'
[14:23] <adrian47> to*
[14:24] <ogra_> dont use count or anysuch options
[14:24] <ogra_> it needs to be written bytewise
[14:40] <dpm> hi Mirv, on which package would you think the QtOrganizer docs could be?
[14:42] <Mirv> dpm: those aren't built, as qtpim is not a supported module by upstream. there is a 'doc' directory but it has last been touched 2 years ago so it would be incorrect documentation even if enabled (API:s have changed a lot)
[14:42] <Mirv> dpm: oh, actually it's a stub so no, there is no documentation
[14:43] <dpm> Mirv, what would be the way forward to get a doc package built, though? That would allow us to have automatic API documentation updates on d.u.c. Right now we're manually copying the docs, which is not very scalable
[14:44] <Mirv> dpm: I'd say https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtpim-opensource-src/ if you want for it to be checked what sort of doc package would be generated if tried
[14:44] <Mirv> dpm: it would be then called qtpim5-doc/qtpim5-doc-html
[14:51] <dpm> thanks Mirv
[14:53] <jgdx> bfiller, what did that mir exception look like?
[14:54] <bfiller> jgdx: trying to find that bug
[14:55] <dpm> Mirv, reported bug 1425114 - let me know if there's anything else needed
[14:55] <bfiller> jgdx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1422797
[14:56] <jgdx> bfiller, thanks
[14:57] <Mirv> dpm: thanks, that's all!
[15:01] <dpm> Mirv, zsombi, would you know in which package the alarm-api docs are published? Is it as part of the toolkit?
[15:02] <zsombi> dpm: yes
[15:03] <dpm> zsombi, thanks, trying to find them now
[15:03] <dpm> kenvandine, would you know in which package the content-hub API docs are published?
[15:04] <kenvandine> dpm, libcontent-hub-doc
[15:05] <dpm> ah, great, thanks kenvandine
[15:05] <kenvandine> np
[15:11] <dpm> mardy, which are the documentation packages for UOA? I can see qtdeclarative5-online-accounts-client-doc, but I'm guessing this covers only QML and not C++ - any others?
[15:15] <mgw> Is Nexus 4 the best phone for developing on in the US?
[15:16] <popey> mgw: currently, yes.
[15:16] <mgw> does it work on verizon 3g?
[15:16] <mgw> (and LTE)
[15:18] <popey> mgw: dunno, I don't live in the US so don't know about the whacky frequencies used there
[15:20] <kenvandine> mgw, it won't work with verizon right now, gsm only
[15:21] <kenvandine> i think verizon is cdma or something...
[15:21] <kenvandine> mgw, works well for me on t-mobile in the US
[15:21] <mgw> verizon is cdma for 3g
[15:21] <kenvandine> right
[15:21] <mgw> LTE I *think* is something different
[15:21] <kenvandine> that won't work on ubuntu
[15:22] <kenvandine> only GSM phones right now
[15:22] <mgw> kenvandine: period?
[15:22] <mgw> i see
[15:22] <mgw> ok, thanks
[15:22] <kenvandine> for now :)
[15:22] <kenvandine> i have working 4g/lte on t-mobile in the US though
[15:22] <mgw> kenvandine: is that on a Nexus 4?
[15:23] <kenvandine> but i needed to flash the radio firmware to enable it, the nexus 4 doesn't have lte enabled by default
[15:23] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:23] <kenvandine> google never got FCC approval for 4g in the US, so they disabled lte
[15:23] <kenvandine> but you can find radio firmware on XDA to enable lte :)
[15:25] <mgw> unfortunately verizon is the only carrier with coverage at my house
[15:26] <mgw> does ubuntu phone seamlessly dial over wifi though?
[15:26] <mgw> or does it require a separate app?
[15:26] <dobey> LTE is a trade name for 4g-ish data speeds on both cdma and gsm
[15:26] <dobey> ubuntu doesn't have wifi dialing no
[15:26] <dobey> and that would require a carrier-specific app
[15:26] <dobey> or well, carrier-specific support, i think
[15:27] <mgw> for outbound calls it would not
[15:27] <mgw> but for inbound, yeah...
[15:27] <mgw> i.e., there's no reason it couldn't support a SIP account in addition to the SIM cards
[15:27] <adrian47> ogra_, but how? :)
[15:27] <dobey> well, patches accepted :)
[15:27] <adrian47> ogra_, i want make only 50M swap file
[15:28] <mgw> What language is the dialer app written in?
[15:28] <dobey> mgw: the back-end bits are done through telepathy, so it's c/c++ i think
[15:29] <dobey> telepathy-ofono is the bit that connects telepathy and the phone stuff.
[15:29] <ogra_> adrian47, dd if=/dev/zero of=SWAP.swp bs=1M count=50
[15:29] <ogra_> adrian47, sorry, i meant stuff like skip and conv options ...
[15:29] <adrian47> ogra_, :)
[15:29] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, you enabled 4g? somehow I missed that
[15:29] <adrian47> ogra_, It didn't work
[15:30] <mgw> dobey: and the frontend?
[15:30] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, yup!
[15:30] <kenvandine> just had to flash the radio
[15:30] <kenvandine> works great
[15:30] <dobey> you'd need a plug-in for online accounts for adding the carrier account, then a telepathy back-end which can use that, and then any necessary changes in the front-end
[15:30] <dobey> dialer-app itself is c++/qml
[15:30] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, got instructions?
[15:30] <kenvandine> people.canonical.com/~kenvandine/mako_hybrid_104_33.zip
[15:31] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, grab that, unzip it to get radio.img
[15:31] <kenvandine> then
[15:31] <kenvandine> put your phone in fastboot
[15:31] <kenvandine> and
[15:31] <kenvandine> fastboot flash radio radio.img
[15:31] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, you also have to add a variable for ofono
[15:32] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, does that persist with updates?
[15:32] <kenvandine> yes
[15:32] <kenvandine> in /etc/init/ofono.override
[15:32] <kenvandine> add
[15:32] <kenvandine> env OFONO_RIL_RAT_LTE=1
[15:32] <mgw> it does not matter whether the nexus 4 is unlocked at purchase, right? as I will unlock it as part of the flash process
[15:32] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, so I see modem.img
[15:33] <dobey> mgw: the carrier-specific plug-in for online accounts should be a click package, and we'd maybe need a service_type description for online-accounts in the main packaging
[15:33] <dobey> mgw: carrier locking and bootloader locking are different things, but since you're probably not switching to sprint, carrier lock might not matter
[15:33] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, that's it :)
[15:33] <dobey> mgw: you can use the MultiROM app to dual boot though, perhaps
[15:33] <mgw> I might prefer AT&T, not sure
[15:33] <kenvandine> fastboot flash radio modem.img
[15:34] <mgw> so I want a device that can do AT&T or T-Mobile
[15:34] <dobey> mgw: if you want AT&T you'll have to buy a different phone i think; the cdma nexus 4 doesn't have gsm afaik
[15:34] <mgw> so I need a carrier unlocked
[15:34] <mgw> wait.... i thought ubuntu did not support cdma?
[15:34] <mgw> T-Mobile and AT&T are both GSM
[15:34] <dobey> right
[15:35] <dobey> and you said you have a verizon nexus 4
[15:35] <mgw> no, i was hoping to get one
[15:35] <dobey> oh
[15:35] <mgw> but I'll have to settle for gsm
[15:35] <mgw> so I need to get a nexus 4 that will work on either gsm network
[15:35] <dobey> well, you could add cdma support ;)
[15:35] <mgw> uh, probably not
[15:35] <mgw> I know a lot more about SIP than cdma
[15:36] <dobey> well you'll have to buy a nexus 4 on ebay anyway, so just buy one that's unlocked, and not a carrier-specific one
[15:39] <kenvandine> jgdx, hey... did you see this?  https://github.com/nemomobile/libqofono/pull/71
[15:40] <kenvandine> jgdx, sounds like something that would be useful for the APN editor...
[15:40] <dobey> well i think ofoono already has some cdma support, so should mostly be a matter of fixing the integration with the rest of the system so that cdma can be used
[15:50] <jgdx> kenvandine, yeah, that would be useful.
[15:51] <kenvandine> jgdx, might be worth looking at that and maybe commenting if it doesn't meet our needs too
[16:12] <ryan_evos> mariogrip, how's it going?
[16:35] <adrian47> Anyone have some good idea how to make boot.img about 2 times smaller? or is possible to move boot.img to other partition?
[16:59] <AskUbuntu> ubuntu touch on samsung galaxy s4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/589395
[17:16] <ryan_evos> Any porting pros in the house?
[17:16] <ryan_evos> :)
[17:31] <deigoasnkzx> Oigan
[17:32] <deigoasnkzx> El ubuntu se puede instalar en iphone?
[17:37] <dobey> ingles por favor. y no, iphone is not android or anywhere near open
[17:56] <adrian47> challenge! how to push 6.7MB boot.img on 4.3MB boot partition?  :)
[17:57] <ogra_> squeeze it harder :)
[17:58] <ryan_evos> lol
[17:58] <OerHeks> adrian47, tar -cvf files.tar /path/to/boot.img ; gzip -9 files.tar   #would give the strongest compression
[17:59] <OerHeks> but won' t boot ofcourse
[17:59] <Myself5> adrian47, compress it with lzma
[17:59] <dobey> make a bigger boot partition?
[18:00] <adrian47> Myself, tried it gives me 5.6MB
[18:00] <Myself5> k, then you are screwed.
[18:00] <adrian47> dobey, i can't :)
[18:00] <Myself5> what device has a 4.3MB Boot partition :/ ?!
[18:00] <adrian47> HTC Desire HD :( this is a complete mistake...
[18:01] <adrian47> My port works pretty well now, only few things to fix, but most problem is boot partition
[18:02] <Myself5> port MultiROM to the phone -> problem solved :D
[18:03] <adrian47> ogra_, hah,  how? :)
[18:03] <adrian47> Myself5, MultiROM doesn't use boot partition?
[18:03] <Myself5> the kernel needs to support kexec-hardboot
[18:03] <Myself5> but nothing else
[18:05] <Myself5> kernel wise I mean ofc :D
[18:09] <adrian47> Myself5, thanks I can try :)
[18:10] <adrian47> but if someone have simpler method I will be grateful :)
[20:05] <jakew02> mariogrip got a min to discuss rootstock-ng?
[20:06] <jakew02> Or anyone, for that matter
[20:06] <jakew02> Wanted to discuss some of the minor details
[20:07] <jakew02> Specifically the size used with make_ext4fs function and pushing to the device failing
[20:18] <piglit> when will the new flash sale be ?
[20:18] <piglit> of the ubuntu phone ?
[20:18] <piglit> http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html ???
[20:19] <sturmflut> piglit: You have to follow Canonical and Bq on Twitter, they will tell you
[20:21] <mariogrip> jakew02 sure
[20:23] <sturmflut> Does anybody know which component provides the "com.ubuntu.connectivity1" DBus service? I can't seem to find out, and pete-woods and Wellark are not online.
[20:42] <sturmflut> Errr, I can crash my Nexus 4 by grepping over the whole VFS
[20:48] <kenvandine> sturmflut, yes, that's provided by indicator-network, i think
[20:48] <kenvandine> well the dbus api is
[20:50] <sturmflut> kenvandine: Oh, I was under the assumption that the indicator-network is just a client. Interesting.
[20:51] <kenvandine> i think eventually the plan is to provide a separate service for that
[20:51] <kenvandine> but for now it's from the indicator
[20:52] <sturmflut> kenvandine: Thanks!
[20:52] <kenvandine> sturmflut, np
[21:07] <sturmflut> I think I can reliably crash my Nexus 4 by reading from /sys/devices/system/cpaccess/cpaccess0/cp_rw and after doing it about three times the device now no longer identifies itself via USB. Any ideas?
[21:37] <grebulus> Just wondering where the compatibilty list for phones was on the wiki, that showed how far along progress was on phones' features ?
[21:38] <grebulus> mhall119, ping
[21:41] <sturmflut> Can anybody confirm bug 1425290? Please be cautious though, my device now no longer communicates via USB.
[21:42] <sturmflut> I also appreciate any ideas on how to do a full hardware reset, maybe the port comes back to life. I already went through all the options in the recovery (wipe etc.)
[21:55] <dobey> grebulus: i don't think there's a list of what parts of a device work and don't work. just the list of devices for which images exist
[22:45] <jakew02> mariogrip, sorry just got home
[22:45] <jakew02> so i should be able to pass -0 for make_ext4fs correct?
[22:48] <mariogrip> jakew02, what do you mean?
[22:49] <AskUbuntu> Right touch of touchpad isn't working | http://askubuntu.com/q/589529
[22:54] <jakew02> in rootstock-ng script
[22:54] <jakew02> *install script
[22:54] <jakew02> the make_ext4fs usage
[22:55] <mariogrip> ah, the block error
[22:55] <jakew02> yea,
[22:55] <jakew02> passing -0 for -l switch allows it to pass negative value and max it out, right
[22:56] <mariogrip> I havn't tried that before, but you can alway try
[23:01] <jakew02> yea, about to. i'm still unclear on a few things with that script but getting there
[23:02] <mariogrip> just ask if there is something else :)
[23:39] <mariogrip> I get this error, init: lxc-android-config post-start process (478) terminated with status 1
[23:39] <mariogrip> some ideas what this can mean?
[23:40] <jholtom> mariogrip: you got past all the errors?
[23:41] <jholtom> mariogrip: also, grab some logs form that
[23:42] <mariogrip> jholtom: yeah, i just edited them, i have the full log folder, but i have no idea where to look (so many files!!)
[23:43] <mariogrip> did you get yours to work?
[23:45] <jakew02> mariogrip, booting fail?
[23:45] <jakew02> and device?
[23:48] <mariogrip> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dey7s4rrc6nltae/AABURee6JjOq-saL0hmIu59ta?dl=0
[23:48] <mariogrip> log list
[23:49] <mariogrip> oneplus one btw


[12:34] <Kilos> yay eth connection working at last
[12:34] <Kilos> afternoon everyone
[12:44] <Kilos> hi inetpro superfly paddatrapper pavlushka theblazehen and all you other lurkers
[12:56] <superfly> hi Kilos!
[13:15] <Kilos> hi Luis_
[13:15] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[14:18] <Kilos> helloooooo africa
[14:18] <Kilos> ai!
[14:53] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[15:05] <inetpro> goeiemore
[16:26] <pavlushka> hi Kilos :)
[16:42] <Kilos> Luis_ you may greet and make friends, dont be shy
[17:02] <pavlushka> anyone created or modified any keyboard layout?
[17:24] <paddatrapper> Kilos: back to being the gate keeper I see
[17:25] <Kilos> haha
[17:26] <pavlushka> now the ubuntu-za back to normal.
[17:27] <superfly> sorry, beena busy day
[17:27] <Kilos> yeah these guys all lurk if no one nags them
[17:27] <Kilos> np superfly life happens
[18:57] <inetpro> good evening
[18:57] <inetpro> pavlushka: ?
[18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: please keep talking
[19:12] <Kilos> about what inetpro
[19:12] <inetpro> about everything
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <Kilos> had to use wicd to get my eth connected
[19:13] <inetpro> help pavlushka
[19:13] <Kilos> nm lost the eth things
[19:14] <Kilos> with what
[19:14] <inetpro> have no idea
[19:14] <inetpro> he wants to enter funny characters?
[19:14] <inetpro> like 🔔
[19:14] <Kilos> haha
[19:15] <Kilos> pavlushka make a compose key
[19:15] <inetpro> MaNI: wb
[19:15] <MaNI> thanks
[19:16] <Kilos> very hot here in rustenburg
[19:16] <Kilos> 3 days of 38°c
[19:17] <Kilos> im getting a tan at last
[19:19] <MaNI> sounds more like cancer than a tan at those heats
[19:19] <Kilos> lol
[19:22] <inetpro> stay out of the sun oom Kilos
[19:23] <Kilos> sun helps fight cholestrol
[19:23] <Kilos> and how can i walk and stay out the sun
[19:24] <Kilos> ian stays on a massive beautiful farm
[19:24] <Kilos> so i must investigate some
[19:24] <Kilos> but i dont walk far yet
[19:24] <Kilos> the airport walk were tough
[19:25] <inetpro> ai!
[19:33] <Kilos> abu dhabi airport is massive and you land one end and take off from the other end
[19:34] <pavlushka> hey inetpro, yeah, that helped :p
[19:34] <Kilos> inetpro knows everything
[19:35] <inetpro> haha 😂😂
[19:35] <Kilos> my mentor
[19:36] <Kilos> you on your cell phone goosie
[19:36] <inetpro> nope
[19:36] <Kilos> what then
[19:36] <Kilos> those arent normal smileys
[19:37] <Kilos> tablet?
[19:37] <inetpro> copy and paste from standard emoji characters
[19:38] <pavlushka> inetpro: I am actually composing the layout I use for my Language on a diff linux distro :)
[19:38] <inetpro> they're just unicode characters
[19:38] <Kilos> ah
[19:38] <inetpro> pavlushka: kde?
[19:39] <Kilos> when i hover the mouse over them i dont get to see the code as i do with normal smileys
[19:39] <pavlushka> but I need to know how to set the alt+key option.
[19:39] <inetpro> pavlushka: are you using KDE?
[19:39] <pavlushka> inetpro: parabola-arch
[19:39] <Kilos> naughty
[19:39] <Kilos> ask the arch peeps
[19:40] <pavlushka> Kilos: you know better than they do, about my language.
[19:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:40] <Kilos> gibberish keyboard
[19:40] <inetpro> hmm....
[19:41] <Kilos> Maaz hmm...
[19:41] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[19:41] <pavlushka> Kilos: after a complete intro, they will say, so you are an indian?
[19:41]  * inetpro learns about parabola-arch for the first time
[19:41] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:42] <inetpro> pavlushka: https://pthree.org/2006/11/30/its-unicode-baby/
[19:42] <pavlushka> its not about the architecture but just about the layout which is not available for any other distro.
[19:43] <inetpro> not sure whether that will help in your case
[19:43] <pavlushka> just have to map the keys accordingly to an mim file
[19:43] <pavlushka> but cant find out how to map alt+key operations.
[19:44] <pavlushka> inetpro: well, lets check that link, so far, you didn't fail,  :p
[19:44] <inetpro> haha
[19:45] <inetpro> think it might not even be relevant
[19:46] <pavlushka> me to, I didn't checked a project on github about layout editor, its on my ming atm.
[19:46] <inetpro> pavlushka: why use parabola-arch?
[19:46] <pavlushka> *ming/mind
[19:47] <pavlushka> inetpro: curiosity about arch (from theblazehen ) and I like Stallman.
[19:47] <inetpro> theblazehen: help him
[19:48] <pavlushka> so far I need to compile my scanner and printer drivers there and the browser
[19:48] <pavlushka> only the compiles and the kernel left.
[19:49] <pavlushka> *compiler
[20:10] <pavlushka> night guys, My eyes feeling truckloads
[20:10] <Kilos> night lad
[20:10] <inetpro> good night
[20:13] <inetpro> yikes!
[20:13] <inetpro> it's after 🕙 already
[20:15] <inetpro> time to call it a day here as well
[20:15] <inetpro> goeie nag oom Kilos
[20:15] <Kilos> nag inetpro
[20:15] <Kilos> \
[20:15] <Kilos> lekker slaap
[20:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight