[00:03] <rtdos> how do i configure my firewall? for some reason i can no longer connect to my site through ftp and it says my connection is blocked by my firewall.
[00:04] <James147_> rtdos: kubuntu dosent ahve one enabled by default ^^
[00:04] <James147_> !firewall
[00:05] <James147_> rtdos: if you have a router then its probally that
[00:05] <rtdos> my router has never returned me that message before. :-\
[00:05] <rtdos> i'll check out ufw
[00:06] <James147_> ^^ i doupt its kubuntu if you ahven enabled the firewall yourself... its mostlikly the router
[00:08] <Blueleaf> l
[00:09] <rtdos> i don't know how it got enabled, james147, but when i ran ufw status it did say it was enabled. :-\
[00:09] <rtdos> gonna reboot.
[00:09] <James147_> rtdos: :s you shouldnt need to reboot
[00:13] <veluxes> hi.. im trying to get Desktop Cube running but evertime i aktivate Desktop effects it says the following desktop effekts could not be activated: blur cover switch desktop cube and desktop cube animation
[00:14] <veluxes> is there maybe a prob with my graphic driver?
[00:15] <James147_> veluxes: possibally, which one are you using?
[00:16] <veluxes> hm how do i find out..sorry im new.. lspci? or is that just the hardwarelist?
[00:18] <James147_> veluxes: that will list your card
[00:18] <veluxes> VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)
[00:20] <James147_> veluxes: i suggest you install the nvidia drivers if you ahvent already... open "hardware drivers" from the menu (or run "jockey-kde") and install them that way
[00:20] <rtdos> James147: what is the equivalent to 'sudo gedit <filename>' ?
[00:21] <James147_> rtdos: NEVER use sudo to open a graphica application
[00:21] <James147_> rtdos: but "kdesudo kate <filename>"
[00:21] <James147_> ^^ or what ever editor you like instead of kate :)
[00:23] <rtdos> ahox, that's what i meant, thanks james :)
[00:28] <rtdos> how do i install the proper codec that allows me to play the following radio stream - http://easylink.playstream.com/seawm1/wmkv.wvx - it appears that it is a windows media stream.
[00:29] <veluxes> ok i did that but its still not workin..do i need to reboot?
[00:30] <veluxes> what is jockey? a hardware-detecting tool?
[00:30] <James147_> veluxes: its best to restart after installing a new video driver, but you only need to restart X
[00:32] <vanguard> wohoo, just built my first .deb package :D
[00:32] <veluxes> oh cool its workin thanks a lot
[00:33] <yofel> vanguard: cool! if you're ever interested in learning more about kubuntu packaging drop into #kubuntu-devel anytime ;)
[00:34] <vanguard> is it about packaging other stuff in kde or the packagin of kde itself?
[00:35] <yofel> well, KDE itself is a given, but other things get packaged too if it makes sense to have them
[00:37] <vanguard> I guess I will have to gain a lot more experience for that ... I just put a .jar of my Java project in a .deb which is mostly made up from tutorials. But it installs fine on my machine :)
[01:01] <lvella_> hey
[01:02] <lvella_> I just installed kubuntu
[01:02] <vanguard> gz
[01:02] <James147_> Hello lvella_
[01:02] <vanguard> what did you use before?
[01:02] <lvella_> ubuntu
[01:02] <lvella_> heheh
[01:02] <lvella_> but
[01:02] <vanguard> well, that is not really that extreme of a switch :)
[01:02] <lvella_> I am missing some colors in konsole
[01:02] <lvella_> do you know what I mean?
[01:03] <lvella_> I type "ls"
[01:03] <vanguard> you mean like the prompt and ls ?
[01:03] <lvella_> yes
[01:03] <vanguard> hmm, my console is with colors here
[01:03] <James147_> lvella_: what happens if you tpye "ls --color"?
[01:04] <lvella_> and in vt, if I type "sudo apt-get install <package_name>", the package name is autocompleted with tab
[01:04] <James147_> ^^ --color=auto even
[01:04] <lvella_> in konsole, it is not
[01:04] <lvella_> ls --color works
[01:04] <lvella_> isn't konsole loading some bash configuration by default?
[01:04] <vanguard> ~/.bashrc
[01:05] <James147_> lvella_: kubuntu should put the color aliases in your .bashrc, check if they are there
[01:05] <lvella_> humm
[01:05] <lvella_> I just guessed what happened
[01:06] <lvella_> due to some... issues, my home directory was not copied from /etc/skel
[01:07] <lvella_> thanks
[01:07] <James147_> lvella_: then that might be why :)
[01:07] <lvella_> I just fixed is
[01:07] <lvella_> it
[01:07] <lvella> I'm back!
[01:07] <lvella> clicked on "disconnect" by mistake
[01:08] <lvella> do you know if quassel have on type spell check, like xchat?
[01:08] <James147_> lvella: it does, enable it in its settings
[01:10] <lvella> found it
[01:10] <lvella> thanks
[01:15] <lvella> it is easier to ask than to search, you already have the info indexed in our brains
[01:15] <lvella> *your
[01:16] <James147_> lvella: not that it takes long to find :) and you get to know what other options are there
[01:21] <lvella> now a harder question, last time I used kde I had the same problem, but found no solution
[01:22] <lvella> there is a network configurator program that opens up when I click in the networking icon
[01:23] <lvella> there I can create and manage my network connection
[01:23] <vanguard> you can use the little widget in the systray
[01:23] <lvella> yes
[01:23] <lvella> the problem in inside
[01:24] <lvella> when I create a new connection
[01:24] <lvella> I can only create local connections (for my user)
[01:26] <lvella> there is a grayed checkbox called "System Connection" (or something like this, mine is in portuguese) inside the properties of a new connection
[01:26] <lvella> but I can not "check" it
[01:26] <vanguard> that problem was talked about a couple hours ago as well ... I just do not know the solution.
[01:26] <lvella> is there a way to create a system wide connection?
[01:27] <lvella> see, here I have dhcp, but I need this machine to use a specific manually assigned ip address
[01:27] <lvella> when I create a new manual connection there
[01:28] <lvella> the network becomes unstable
[01:28] <lvella> and oscillate between my manual configuration and the "auto eth0"
[01:33] <veluxes_> i downloaded compizz cause it looks much nicer i just got the problem that i cant chance the number of desktops to 4 its stuck on 1... any idea?
[01:35] <veluxes_> and this just crashed.. Executable: kde4-window-decorator PID: 1906 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
[01:38] <lvella> is people using radeon proprietary driver with kubuntu? is it ok?
[01:39] <lvella> i like the free driver, it is cool for movies, but not for games...
[01:43] <James147_> lvella: you can set up a static address on an wired connection like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[01:43] <James147_> lvella: and as far as I know the radeon drivers should work, although I have never used them
[01:44] <lvella> why links are being opened by firefox instead of rekonq? where is this setting?
[01:45] <James147_> lvella: system settings > default application
[01:47] <lvella> well, it doesn't seems to be there...
[01:47] <James147_> lvella: what exactly?
[01:50] <lvella> inside "default application" → "web browser", there is just the very cryptc message (free translation) "Open URLs http and https: in an application based on the contents of the URL"
[01:50] <lvella> this is selected
[01:50] <lvella> but I don't know what it means
[01:51] <James147_> lvella: check "in the follow browser" and type "rekonq" in the boxz
[01:51] <lvella> not firefox is referenced somewhere
[01:51] <James147_> (thinks the top one basically means "auto" ^^ :)  )
[01:51] <lvella> ok, but from where kde is locating firefox?
[01:52] <James147_> lvella: might want to check the program "update-alternatives" or something... (not on my kubuntu box atm)
[01:54] <chenbang> hello everybody...
[01:54] <James147_> Hello chenbang
[01:55] <chenbang> i m new here
[01:55] <James147_> Then welcome :)
[01:55] <chenbang> thanx
[01:57] <vanguard> the radeon driver does not work too good on my 2600 here
[01:57] <vanguard> I guess it is kinda hard since it is an iMac ...
[02:04] <veluxes> does anybody use compiz around here?
[02:05] <dan08> veluxes: i do :D
[02:06] <veluxes> do you use ccsm?
[02:06] <dan08> veluxes: yes
[02:06] <dan08> veluxes: do you need help with something?
[02:07] <veluxes> i cant set more then 1 desktop and it always crashes when i start compiz
[02:07] <veluxes> it says Executable: kde4-window-decorator PID: 1906 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)
[02:08] <dan08> veluxes: did you google for an answer?
[02:09] <veluxes> yes cant find anything about the desktop thing...didnt try the other aktually but im on it ;)
[02:10] <veluxes> thought it might be the same prob..guess its not..
[02:10] <dan08> veluxes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/572780
[02:10] <dan08> veluxes: there is a fix for it apparently
[02:22] <legoeland_> salut la popullation
[02:22] <bazhang> !fr
[02:25] <dan08> im off guys. bye
[02:41] <lvella> how to play mp3?
[02:41] <lvella> I've installed gstreamer backend
[02:41] <lvella> plus gstreamer ffmpeg
[02:41] <lvella> but no good...
[02:41] <James147_> lvella: install kuubntu-restricted-extras
[02:44] <lvella> why is openjdk restricted?
[02:50] <lvella> hard question:
[02:50] <lvella> how to import bookmarks from chrome to rekonq?
[02:52] <lvella> hum
[02:52] <lvella> acid test just froze rekonq
[02:54] <rtdos> a few minutes after my screensaver kicks in, it powers off. how do i prevent it from powering off?
[02:55] <yofel> rtdos: go to power management settings -> edit profiles -> performance profile and change the display settings
[02:59] <rtdos> yofel, both dim display and enable display power management are un-ticked
[02:59] <rosco_y> what is 10.10's nickname?
[02:59] <yofel> rtdos: maverick meerkat
[02:59] <yofel> rosco_y: ^
[03:00] <yofel> rtdos: hm... check the screensaver settings maybe? not sure if that has another setting
[03:05] <valorie> James147_: kub-xtras doesn't have gst goodies
[03:05] <valorie> dunno why
[03:05] <valorie> but so far only xine and vlc codecs
[03:05] <valorie> I should bring that up to the packagers, I guess
[03:07] <rtdos> ok, hold on yofel
[03:08] <yofel> valorie: amarok did ask me if I want to install gst codecs when I started it in natty
[03:08] <valorie> woooooooooooo!
[03:09] <valorie> that would be thanks to the hard work of the phonon folks
[03:09] <valorie> for which I thank them
[03:09] <valorie> however, would be good to be prompted during the install
[03:13] <veluxes_> hi i want to install http://cgit.compiz.org/compiz/core/commit/?h=compiz-0.8&id=04c6a44893a00088c63acd3ba327022f8aa551cc&ss=1... im suppost to type autogen.sh and than make make install but if i type autogen.sh i get autogen.sh: command not found
[03:17] <veluxes_> i googled and after sh ./autogen.sh it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/554583/
[03:17] <veluxes_> automake failed..
[03:18] <yofel> you probably want to install 'libtool'
[03:33] <veluxes> thank you but he still cant find some macros
[03:34] <veluxes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/554584/
[03:36] <yofel> valorie: can you please run 'sudo apt-get build-dep compiz-kde'
[03:36] <yofel> veluxes: ^
[03:36] <yofel> sorry valorie :S
[03:36] <valorie> lol
[03:37] <valorie> used to it
[03:37] <valorie> :-)
[03:37] <yofel> ^^
[03:43] <rtdos> isn't there a command to install kde all ?
[03:43] <yofel> sudo apt-get install kde-full?
[03:43] <yofel> it's a debian thing, but works fine for us too
[03:44] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <yofel> that doesn't install every kde application (there's no way full KDE would fit onto a CD)
[03:46] <veluxes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/554591/   ok i finally got to get my make but it seems like its got prob with me using the 1.desktop how do i unuse it?
[03:46] <rtdos> thanks yofel, btw, gnome powersaver was still installed so i removed that lets see if that helps.
[03:47] <yofel> veluxes: a) it didn't build everyhting successfully b) make install requires sudo (and the understanding that your compiz will be prefered over the system one until you remove it)
[03:48] <veluxes> do i get to use compiz if i install kde-full with kubuntu 10.10?
[03:48] <yofel> using checkinstall would be better
[03:48] <yofel> veluxes: nope, that's unrelated
[03:49] <rtdos> how do i use checkinstall ?
[03:49] <Guest6612> if my registry gets too big I get a stack overflow when i use wine.  is there some setting i can change to fix that?
[03:50] <veluxes> ok i did the make install..ill restart and see if it works
[03:50] <yofel> veluxes: logging out is enough
[03:50] <veluxes> oh ok
[03:51] <Guest6612> sorry  wrong channel
[03:52] <yofel> bedsack: well, not necessarily, you could try to run it in a shell after modifying the stacksize with ulimit -s
[03:52] <yofel> not sure if that's the issue though
[03:52] <yofel> #winehq might give you a better suggestion though
[03:56] <veluxes_> ok i think it did it,...but do i need to disable desktop effects for it?
[03:56] <bedsack> thanks yofel.  I meant to be on the winehq channel :)
[03:56] <veluxes_> or virtual desktop? still cant get the cube
[03:57] <yofel> no idea, the desktop effects menu is meant for kwin, not compiz, use ccsm for compiz
[03:59] <veluxes_> ok i didnt aktivate compiz...now i did and its still not working...
[03:59] <jetscreamer> i installed the nvidia-nonfree but xorg doesn't seem to be using it
[03:59] <jetscreamer> what am i missing
[04:00] <yofel> jetscreamer: please use jockey-kde
[04:00] <jetscreamer> ?
[04:00] <jetscreamer> k...
[04:01] <yofel> jetscreamer: there is no nvidia-nonfree package, please use jockey-kde to install the nvidia driver
[04:01] <yofel> and please don't use the .run from the nvidia site
[04:01] <jetscreamer> it was in sources
[04:01] <yofel> ?
[04:02] <jetscreamer> yeh
[04:02] <bazhang> !find nvidia-nonfree
[04:02] <jetscreamer> well that wasn't the exact name
[04:02] <jetscreamer> one sec
[04:02] <yofel> jetscreamer: if you mean nvidia-current, jockey will install that
[04:02] <jetscreamer> ah yes that
[04:03] <jetscreamer> so jockey will do something else as well i take it :)
[04:03] <yofel> yep, tell X to use it ;)
[04:03] <yofel> (you could run nvidia-xconfig too, but that will put a lot of junk into your xorg.conf)
[04:03] <yofel> jockey does a cleaner job
[04:04] <jetscreamer> yeh seen that
[04:04] <jetscreamer> messy
[04:15] <veluxes> konsole
[04:16] <jetscreamer> how do you arrange the icons on the desktop, like by name or whatever
[04:17] <zeroadrenaline> on wich gui?
[04:17] <zeroadrenaline> I assume that you are talking about kde 4.5
[04:17] <jetscreamer> kde4
[04:17] <jetscreamer> .5 i guess
[04:17] <jetscreamer> whatever's the latest
[04:18] <zeroadrenaline> ok, if you do right clik on plasma desktop
[04:18] <jetscreamer> yeah i have...
[04:18] <zeroadrenaline> go to Preferences
[04:18] <jetscreamer> no preferences menu item
[04:18] <zeroadrenaline> ..... no way!
[04:19] <jetscreamer> closest is desktop settings... add widgets, panel...
[04:19] <jetscreamer> run command
[04:19] <jetscreamer> lock screen, leave
[04:19] <jetscreamer> activities
[04:19] <jetscreamer> that's it
[04:20] <jetscreamer> and nothing in desktop settings does that :(
[04:20] <zeroadrenaline> just type "Alt + s"
[04:21] <zeroadrenaline> sorry, "Alt+d" (go to desktop) and "Alt+s" (go to settings)
[04:21] <zeroadrenaline> are you there?
[04:21] <zeroadrenaline> the, you must go to activity
[04:21] <jetscreamer> wallpaper activity and mouse actions
[04:21] <jetscreamer> k
[04:22] <James147_> jetscreamer: what activity type are you using?
[04:22] <zeroadrenaline> if you use Desktop, (default if I'm not wrong, you can manage the widgets)
[04:23] <jetscreamer> yeah it says desktop
[04:23] <zeroadrenaline> but if you selet folder view (I have my desktop in spanish, I don't know the correct option in english, but must say somthing about folder)
[04:23] <jetscreamer> but there's nothing under it but name: uinmamed
[04:23] <jetscreamer> ahh ok i saw that
[04:23] <James147_> jetscreamer: then you are trying to sort the icons in the folder view on the desktop? or just icons on the desktop?
[04:23] <zeroadrenaline> the forlder view is most like "windows desktop"
[04:24] <jetscreamer> yeah there we go type folder view
[04:24] <jetscreamer> thanks a lot
[04:24] <jetscreamer> icons on the desktop
[04:24] <zeroadrenaline> if you change to this, you will see all your icons like on windows desktop, and them you can sort by name, size, type, whatever
[04:24] <James147_> ^^ you can also sort the ones in the folder view in much the same way
[04:25] <James147_> (widget taht is)
[04:25] <zeroadrenaline> jetscreamer: anything else?
[04:25] <jetscreamer> the command is there, but the icons aren't moving
[04:26] <jetscreamer> i placed them manually, but they should get arranged anyway shouldn't they?
[04:26] <zeroadrenaline> may be they are stocked on place. There is an option right there where you go to sort it, that allows you to leavit on grid, or bocked in his place.
[04:27] <mrroth> how come I do sudo chown users:mrotth raid/  chown: invalid user: `users:mrotth' <---- I get that error
[04:27] <James147_> mrroth: its USER:GROUP
[04:27] <zeroadrenaline> user:group
[04:27] <mrroth> so the user is mrotth:group
[04:28] <mrroth> what would be the group
[04:28] <jetscreamer> dang beatme
[04:28] <mrroth> thanks zeroadrenaline
[04:28] <mrroth> I will try
[04:28] <zeroadrenaline> ok
[04:28] <James147_> mrroth: normally the same as your user
[04:28] <James147_> mrroth: unless you want it in a different group for some reason
[04:28] <zeroadrenaline> mrroth: you welcome
[04:28] <mrroth>  sudo chown mrotth:mrotth raid/
[04:28] <mrroth> chown: invalid user: `mrotth:mrotth'
[04:29] <mrroth> ahh it worked
[04:29] <mrroth> hmm typo
[04:29] <zeroadrenaline> ok, stop trying commands as a blind guy. If you don't stop, you'll broke something.
[04:29] <zeroadrenaline> Just read the output of this commands and think about it
[04:29] <zeroadrenaline> sudo cat /etc/passwd
[04:30] <James147_> ^^ yeah, its useful to read the manpages before you try new commands :)
[04:30] <zeroadrenaline> sudo cat /etc/group
[04:30] <zeroadrenaline> this two commands gives you all the info you need about what users and groups are in your system.
[04:30] <jetscreamer> ` '
[04:30] <James147_> (also run: "groups" to see which groups you are in)
[04:31] <mrroth> ahh I see
[04:31] <mrroth> I got it
[04:31] <James147_> ^^ but most of the time your files should belong to the group named after you (so mrroth:mrroth)
[04:32] <zeroadrenaline> ok, well, if there isn't a group called mrroth you can't do "sudo chown mrroth:mrroth /path" because (as you probably suppose) there isn't any group called mrroth
[04:32] <James147_> unless, ofcourse, you have a reason not to :) such as to let others see/use/edit the files
[04:32] <mrroth> yea wha tI am trying to do is this, create in the root directory a mount point for my raid1 (software mirror of two 500 gig sata disk, for data)
[04:32] <zeroadrenaline> so, just check well what user and group must pass to the command, and then I'm jure that you will not fail again.
[04:33] <zeroadrenaline> mrroth: ok just a coment, never mount on /root anything, there is /mnt path created to allow you to mount your fs's right there.
[04:34] <James147_> ^^ or in /media :)
[04:34] <zeroadrenaline> or, if you don't like /mnt, use /media, but never use /root
[04:34] <James147_> (though thats mostly for removable
[04:34] <zeroadrenaline> James147_: are you reading my mind? jejejejeje
[04:34] <James147_> :D
[04:34] <mrroth> OH and why is that zeroadrenaline
[04:35] <mrroth> I will do so, but hmm
[04:35] <zeroadrenaline> when you mount some fs, let's suppose thata you have a device caller /dev/sda2 and you are trying to moun it into /root
[04:35] <James147_> mrroth: you can mount things where ever you like... but unless you have a reson for doing so its best to keep it in /mnt or /media
[04:36] <zeroadrenaline> well, you probable do something like this: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /root
[04:36] <James147_> ^^ /root is roots home folder... you shouldnt really put things in there that arent needed
[04:36] <mrroth> oh
[04:36] <jetscreamer> sort works for a directory i created in /home/user/Desktop, but not the icons i dragged from the start menu
[04:36] <zeroadrenaline> ok, you mount it on /root
[04:36] <mrroth> i can screw shit up
[04:36] <jetscreamer> says root owns em might be that
[04:37] <mrroth> but I can still do /mnt/raid
[04:37] <zeroadrenaline> but all the content of /root folder previous to mount now is unaccesible to you, because you "push" it down with your fs
[04:37] <James147_> mrroth: what i advise is you create a folder in /mnt or /media  (called "raid" or what ever you want) and mount it there
[04:37] <mrroth> k good idea James147_ thanks James147_ and zegenie
[04:37] <mrroth> zeroadrenaline...
[04:37] <zeroadrenaline> when you performe umount /root you wil recover all the original content,
[04:37] <mrroth> oh that sucks
[04:37] <zeroadrenaline> but /root (as some say) is the home folder of the root user
[04:38] <James147_> mrroth: ^^ also there is little need to chown in this case... what you should do it keep the folder owned as root and apply a mask to the mount options to let others access it (though root needs to mount it)
[04:38] <zeroadrenaline> if you mount some fs there, you are puting your /dev/sda2 over all the home info of root user, and definitly this is not a god idea.
[04:38] <mrroth> James147_ how would I do that
[04:39] <mrroth> so I created a folder in /mnt/raid
[04:39] <mrroth> I then want to mount my raid 1 mirro on it
[04:39] <mrroth> and still allow mrroth to use it
[04:39] <James147_> mrroth: set the options uid=   and gid=   to the appropite amsks is i remembeer right
[04:39] <zeroadrenaline> there is a file in /etc/fstab thata allows you to set the mounting point of every fs and whe your pc boot, all the fs declared on /etc/fstab will be mounted automatically
[04:40] <James147_> mrroth: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount  << tells you everything you need to know about the mount command
[04:40] <mrroth> thanks James147_ let me read
[04:40] <zeroadrenaline> if you search at google automatic mount with /etc/fstab you will find a lot of info about it.
[04:41] <zeroadrenaline> just remember that the fstab manage the grants in reverse of chmod
[04:41] <zeroadrenaline> in chmod 777 is rwxrwxrwx
[04:41] <mrroth> oh
[04:41] <zeroadrenaline> but in fstab 777 is ---------
[04:41] <mrroth> oh
[04:42] <zeroadrenaline> so, if you whant to give 755 grants to a fs
[04:42] <zeroadrenaline> you will need to set something like this
[04:42] <jetscreamer> yeah ok the ones i right clicked and hit 'add to desktop' can't be automatically arranged, but copy to works
[04:43] <zeroadrenaline> "/device /mount/point fs-type options"
[04:43] <zeroadrenaline> without "
[04:43] <zeroadrenaline> in our example
[04:43] <mrroth> hmm
[04:44] <James147_> mrroth: this might be of intrest: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[04:44] <zeroadrenaline> /dev/sda2 /mnt/raid ext3 rw,auto,exec,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=002,gmask=002 0 0
[04:44] <mrroth> ahh cool
[04:44] <zeroadrenaline> uid=1000 is the thefault for the first user of the system
[04:44] <zeroadrenaline> gis=100 is the default of "users" group
[04:44] <mrroth> oh I see
[04:44] <jetscreamer> d
[04:44] <jetscreamer> gid
[04:45] <zeroadrenaline> (uid=USER_ID, gid=GROUP_ID,umask=USER_MASK,gmask=GROUP_MASK where mask is the grants of them in the fs)
[04:46] <zeroadrenaline> as I allways say, first of all, and take this like your MANTRA as sysadmin:
[04:46] <zeroadrenaline> BACKUP ALL YOUR FILES BEFORE EDIT IT!!!
[04:46] <mrroth> ahh HMM that a good mantra
[04:46] <zeroadrenaline> so: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bkp.YYYYMMDD
[04:47] <rtdos> what do i need to install to add a irc server and a newserver to my installation (that will be run from my local network) ?>
[04:47] <mrroth> apt-cache search IRCD
[04:48] <zeroadrenaline> after that and ONLY AFTER THAT, you are allowed to do rm, vim, destroy, kill, and all that commands that we love to use to destroy our system and get entire night without sleep.
[04:49] <James147_> zeroadrenaline: mrroth: ^^ or better yet: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bkp-`date +%f`     << will auto append the date :)
[04:49] <James147_> ^^ %F even
[04:50] <rtdos> mrroth, is it the same for nntp?
[04:51] <mrroth> not sure
[04:51] <mrroth> never used nntpd
[04:51] <zeroadrenaline> James147_: you are a hacker jejejejejejeje!
[04:53] <zeroadrenaline> are there someone that are testing firefox 4?.
[04:56] <worraps>
[05:16]  * jetscreamer sticks a fork in it
[05:16] <jetscreamer> they should be happy
[05:17] <jetscreamer> dual boot system for somebody
[05:17] <yofel> zeroadrenaline: yes
[05:17] <zeroadrenaline> .............
[05:17] <zeroadrenaline> yofel, are you testing ff4?
[05:17] <zeroadrenaline> yofel: are you testing ff4?
[05:18] <yofel> considering I'm using 4.0~b10~hg20110114r60482+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 - yes ;)
[05:19] <yofel> (that's the 4.0 daily build version)
[05:47] <mrroth> for software raid 1 mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdb1 fdisk says Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes and Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes is this my first step
[05:47] <mrroth> or do I have to create the partions first
[05:48] <yofel> I haven't set up a raid in ages, but I'm pretty sure you need the raid first and the partitions after that
[05:53] <daggett_> Test only (large post previoulsy typed seems to have been lost)
[05:54] <daggett_> Test only again as 'daggett' and not 'daggett_'
[05:55] <mrroth> yofel k
[05:56] <yofel> daggett_: test succeeded
[06:00] <daggett_> Thanx yofel. I am very new 2 this. Actually, I tried, using a drop down menu to the left of the input field to change to 'daggett' without the trailing underscore ('_'), but seem to have failed, not that that is very important.
[06:00] <sinthetek> hey, can anyone tell me how exactly to add extra privileges to a new users account?
[06:01] <yofel> daggett_: you can type '/nick daggett' here, that should change the name
[06:01] <sinthetek> i installed kubuntu for someone but created an extra account so that i could set some stuff up but now she doesn't seem to have certain options available
[06:01] <sinthetek> (ie package managers aren't showing up etc)
[06:02] <sinthetek> how can i can modify her account so that system config and package management show up the same as the first user who logged in?
[06:03] <yofel> sinthetek: you probably need to add that user to the admin group, not sure how adding users works
[06:05] <mrroth> hmm
[06:07] <valorie> adding someone to sudoers group: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=139243
[06:08] <valorie> !sudoers
[06:08] <daggett_> Kubuntu KDE 4 seems impressively powerful, but maybe at a cost to familiarity by users such as myself. Previously I had used KDE (3, I think) on a Debian Linux desktop. I had found KDE preferable to the Gnome desktop (maybe because I did not know more about Gnome).  One task I don't know how to perform, for example, which i was able to perform on KDE 3 was to move progrma icons on the KDE task bar (located on my desktop at
[06:08] <daggett_> the bottom).  Can anyone tell me how to move an icon or point me to docs which show me how?
[06:08] <valorie> !sudo
[06:09] <valorie> daggett_: it is a bit difficult to get used to the plasma desktop, I agree
[06:09] <valorie> however, now that I'm used to it, I really like it
[06:09] <valorie> make friends with that cashew
[06:09] <ussher_> normally when i want to see what the contents of a file are from the command line i do $ nano /path/to/the/file.txt  is there any way to just print the file to the command line without using an editor?
[06:10] <geekosopher> :s/difficult/different :)
[06:10] <moetunes> ussher_:  do   cat /path/to/file
[06:10] <ussher_> moetunes: perfect
[06:10] <moetunes> woot
[06:11] <ussher_> is there a |more to stop it going all in one go?
[06:11] <ussher_> |grep something?
[06:11] <moetunes> ussher_:  I use   less /path/to/file   q to exit it
[06:11] <moetunes> up/doen arrows to scroll
[06:11] <ussher_> i just tried |less and that seams to work too. :)
[06:12] <ussher_> moetunes++
[06:13] <daggett_> Thanks, valorie.  I expect I will find I like it a lot more when I am used to it.  I am afraid that I don't grasp what you mena by 'cashew' if that was meant for me.
[06:13] <valorie> to the right top and right bottom of your screen you'll see a little shape
[06:13] <valorie> pretty much like a cashew nut
[06:14] <valorie> that opens up the menu to add widgets, various desktops and activities, etc.
[06:14] <valorie> you are getting into KDE 4 at a good time
[06:14] <yofel> as of KDE 4.6 you'll be able to drag and drop launchers to the panel again, until then you'll have to use the panel settings
[06:14] <valorie> bugs are mostly gone, it's stable, and getting sorta fun
[06:15]  * valorie hasn't really figured out activities yet
[06:15] <yofel> they were flaky in the past, but with 4.6 my experiments haven't crashed once yet
[06:15] <yofel> I'm too used to NOT use activities though ^^
[06:16] <mrroth> hmm
[06:20] <daggett_> Yes, spotted the 'cashew'. It causes a horizontal grey bar, which is the full length of my screen, to pop up above my task bar. (It disappears no sooner than I go back to Quassel). How do I use it to, for example, to remove a space bar or move a program  icon on the task bar?
[06:22] <yofel> daggett_: you click on 'add widgets' wich will open another bar, and add an 'application launcher' to the panel
[06:31] <daggett_> Thanks, yofel. I now have second application launcher located on the far right of my task bar. I already had one on the the far left. Not sure what to do with it now. It would stilll be nice to manage icons on the task bar itself, as well as within an application launcher. (BTW, I think a 'help' icon located on the horizontal grey bar would be helpful to me.)
[06:32] <yofel> hm, I got the wrong one then :S
[06:33] <yofel> ok, I have no idea how to do this anymore in kde << 4.6 :S
[06:33] <yofel> daggett_: which release are you using?
[06:39] <mrroth> hi
[06:39] <daggett_>   Does this from /var/cache/apt/archive tell you wht version I am running :kubuntu-desktop_1.205_i386.deb ?  (Thanx 4 letting me know, yofel.  I should be able to manage 4 now without that capability.  I am sure I will find the answer eventually.)
[06:39] <mrroth> I can't seem to figure out software raid in linux
[06:39] <insmod> is there a fix to bug #606377 in lm-sensors my install of 10.10 runs the laptop really hot!
[06:40] <yofel> daggett_: maverick (and you can use lsb_release -a to find that out or just tell me the kde version from the help->about kde menu next time ;) )
[06:41] <yofel> daggett_: feel a bit adventurous? you could try kde 4.6 rc2 - you can just drag and drop launchers to the panel there. You might get a crash here and there though (I only get one on logout though)
[06:41] <veovis_muaddib> Okay, assume I'm really BAD at networking, but pretty good with linux.  I have a kubuntu machine with eth0 hooked up to my router and internet, and eth1 hooked up to my original xbox.  I want to be able to ftp into the xbox, but I don't care if it gets internet or not.  Is there a guide on how to do this?
[06:42] <veovis_muaddib> Or a term I should google?
[06:43] <yofel> daggett_: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.6-rc-2
[06:45] <daggett_> The output from "lsb_release -a": is: No LSB modules are available, nl, Distributor ID: Ubuntu. nl, Description:    Ubuntu 10.10, nl, Release:        10.10, nl, Codename:       maverick
[07:00] <daggett_> Thanks, for the link, yofel. It looks to me like installation of RC 4.6 will be a little more involved than the way I installed Kubuntu (I just used "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop".  Is there a simple way to install RC 4.6?)  Just maybe someone with my lack of experience with Ubuntu/Kubuntu would be better advised to go on tweaking the Kubuntu 10.10 I have now.
[07:01] <yofel> daggett_: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:02] <yofel> but you can stick to 4.5 too, I works fine.
[07:17] <daggett_> Thanx, yofel. I think I will set up a copy of (Kubuntu(?)) 4.5 on a different partition and try  out "sudo add-apt- ...", but not in the next 5 minutes. (How does one copy an existing installation of [K]Ubuntu onto a differnt partition? I have a 64GB SSD, which could be a good place to experiment) BTW, is there an easy way to change my Display Manager to GDM from KDM? I may need to revert to Gnome, if I can't get KDE to work
[07:17] <daggett_>  as Ineed to or if KDE proves unstable . (My screen once went completely blank after I pressed the wrong icon or typed in the wrong command and I had to restart my computer. Hopefully that won't happen again.). However, when I select Gnome through KDM (and not GDM) I get a completely empty (although pretty) and unresponsive screen. I am hopeful that GDM will allow me to select either a workable version of the KDE desktop or
[07:17] <daggett_> of the Gnome desktop.
[07:17] <FloodBotK2> daggett_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <daggett_> Apologies, FloodBotK2.  I might test it if that is OK 2 see what happens.
[07:21] <yofel> daggett_: you can just login to gnome from KDM too, just select the other session
[07:21] <yofel> (click on the blue arrow in kdm)
[07:24] <daggett_> But as I said, I got an empty and unresponsive Gnome desktop.  It may be that all the Gnome desktop settings have somehow been lost on my Gnome desktop. I would like to see if selecting Gnome from GDM makes a difference.
[07:25] <yofel> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm will ask you if you want to use gdm or kdm
[07:26] <geekosopher> once 4.6 is released, will it be available int kubuntu-ppa/ppa repo?
[07:27] <yofel> probably in kubuntu-ppa/backports - /ppa is for stable updates, meaning 4.5.X
[07:27] <geekosopher> yofel: i meant when 4.6 will be the current stable
[07:28] <geekosopher> does that mean 4.6 will never land in /ppa even after its final release?
[07:29] <yofel> yeah, that's why I said backports, /ppa is for the same version that maverick came from, meaning 4.5
[07:29] <yofel> s/from/with/
[07:29] <yofel> and what's so bad about using backports?
[07:30] <geekosopher> nothing, just my laziness to add one more repo :)
[07:30] <yofel> ^^
[07:31] <geekosopher> yofel: thanks for clarifying the difference between /ppa and /backports, I was under different impression
[07:32] <mrroth> what is this Warning: Not all of the space available to /dev/sdb appears to be used, you can fix the GPT to use all of the space (an extra 1 blocks) or continue with the current setting?
[07:35] <daggett_> FloodBotK2, as an experiment, I tried out paste.ubuntu.com at http://paste.ubuntu.com/554627/ . It seems that carriage returns are needed to prevent the lines from being excessively long.
[07:38] <valorie> haha, daggett_
[07:39] <valorie> FloodBotK2 is a bot, and rather silly
[07:42] <kenneth> hello
[07:45] <kenneth> please can you help me to use my cam
[07:48] <geekosopher> kenneth: tell us the exact problem you are facing, and if someone here knows how to solve it, they will most probably reply :)
[07:50] <kenneth> i want to chat on yahoo messenger with my web cam please help me
[07:56] <geekosopher> kenneth: how are you trying to chat on yahoo messenger? using kopete?
[07:58] <moses_> does the 10.10 iso give off errors when you first boot it up?
[08:01] <daggett_> To repeat a question, which was buried within the flood up above:  How does one copy an existing installation of [K]Ubuntu onto a differnt partition?
[08:04] <kenneth> yes
[08:05] <naftilos76> hi, i have an ip camera which saves thousands of 640x480 jpg pics on the disk. I usually erase them every max 24 hrs. That period is enough for the camera to save as much as 20 k pics. When i try to preview them i need something that can handle that amount of pics in a decent period of time. I used Gwenview in the mode where i could see the screen filled up with thumnnails. That mode, as i remember, loaded as much as 500-1000 new pics per
[08:05] <naftilos76> sec. Suddenly now that is changed down to 50-100 and that is a real pain in the neck when loading 10 k pics! Any suggestions on how to timely preview those pics?
[08:05] <kenneth> yes with kopete
[08:09] <naftilos76> Is there an other app that can show sizeable thumbnails while loading them fast?
[09:30] <kenneth> please how can i find ip for site when useing the terminal
[09:39] <an1> whois
[11:12] <Kulitorum> I can't connect to my kubuntu machine from windows, not shared files, and not shared printers. Printers is most important right now, wife wants to print something. I think it may be firewall related, but I can't find any firewall config tool, what should I look for?
[11:18] <valorie> !firewall
[11:18] <valorie> does that help at all, Kulitorum?
[11:18] <valorie> i don't know anything about them
[11:20] <Kulitorum> back. reading.
[11:20] <moetunes> there's a link about printer sharing
[11:21] <moetunes> !print
[11:21] <Kulitorum> yeap, reading :)
[11:22] <Kulitorum> installing Guarddog
[11:45] <Kulitorum> Hmmm
[11:45] <Kulitorum> I can ping the kubuntu machine, but typing its ip in windows finder gets me a error message......
[11:46] <Kulitorum> ....waiting for timeout....
[11:46] <Kulitorum> "windows cannot find \\<IP_ADDRESS>\ check the spelling.......
[11:47] <Kulitorum> michael@server:/etc/init.d$ ps -ef | grep smb
[11:47] <Kulitorum> root      1035     1  0 02:51 ?        00:00:00 smbd -F
[11:47] <Kulitorum> root      1111  1035  0 02:51 ?        00:00:00 smbd -F
[11:47] <Kulitorum> michael   7231  6246  0 12:47 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto smb
[11:47] <FloodBotK2> Kulitorum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:47] <Kulitorum> that's not right, is it?
[11:53] <valorie> floodbot, hush
[11:54] <valorie> however, if you have more than that small paste, please use a pastebin
[11:54] <valorie> lol
[11:54] <jophish> Hi all!
[11:54] <jophish> When trying to suspend my laptop, I am getting this error in dmesg "PM: Device usb3 failed to suspend async: error -2"
[11:55] <jophish> I can suspend the laptop fine using ubuntu, it's just not working with kubuntu
[11:55] <Kulitorum> Hmmm, gtg. I'll be back later for more premium support :) - thanks for now
[11:55] <jophish> likewise, suspend to disk doesn't work
[11:55] <jophish> I'm not entirely sure how to do about debugging this
[12:07] <jophish> I have fixed the problem
[12:07] <jophish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/522998
[12:19] <vanguard> I got my ATI card running now, but I cannot activate desktop effects because of some X-Config. What can I do?
[12:21] <vanguard> and all fonts are really big now, in the appareance->fonts menu, there is still size 9 selected.
[12:24] <vanguard> fixed the last issue, set the font dpi to 96
[12:24] <vanguard> does anyone have an idea about the desktop effects?
[12:39] <nowyx> salut
[12:42] <nowyx> cherche copin lol
[12:43] <precubcr> hy
[12:43] <precubcr> need help pls
[12:43] <youngray> 大家好：）
[12:43] <nowyx> why?
[12:43] <precubcr> please
[12:43] <precubcr> i have installed mu kubuntu maverik
[12:44] <precubcr> but erased my desktop folder
[12:44] <precubcr> any way to recover it ?
[12:44] <nowyx> ho? what os?
[12:44] <precubcr> kubutnu 10.10
[12:44] <nowyx> ok
[12:44] <nowyx> 1s
[12:45] <nowyx> download gparted
[12:45] <nowyx> with apt-get install gparted on konsole ;-)
[12:46] <nowyx> after you open the software and you tell me what is displayed
[12:46] <precubcr> ok
[12:46] <precubcr> wait
[12:47] <nowyx> oki =)
[12:47] <precubcr> but
[12:47] <precubcr> it is not gnome
[12:47] <precubcr> it is kde
[12:47] <nowyx> is same
[12:48] <precubcr> only
[12:48] <precubcr> see the 1st hdd
[12:48] <nowyx> don't worry
[12:48] <precubcr> it says
[12:48] <precubcr> not allocated
[12:48] <FloodBotK2> precubcr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:48] <nowyx> ok my adress is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:49] <precubcr> nowyx wrong i can see all
[12:49] <precubcr> why do u need to know that ?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> hi all
[13:23]  * BluesKaj gets more coffee...
[13:25]  * mjobin gets its first coffee
[13:48] <ggeorgy> do you know any j2me emulator for ubuntu like midpx???
[13:48] <ggeorgy> hi
[13:49] <ggeorgy> ???????????pleasew
[13:49] <ggeorgy> please
[13:49] <vanguard> I do not know any, sry
[13:50] <yofel> !patience | ggeorgy
[13:51] <vanguard> I got a fairly simple problem I believe: I copied the UrbanTerror files to /opt/urt/. Then I made a symlink to my ~/bin dir with ln -s ioUrbanTerror.i386 ~/bin/urt. When I am in ~/bin and type ./urt, it tells me that it cannot find it. What can I do?
[13:52] <trichard> vanguard: is ioUrbanTerror.i386 executable?
[13:52] <yofel> vanguard: you need to use the full path when creating the symlink
[13:53] <yofel> (I think)
[13:55] <vanguard> the link is lrwxlrwxlrwx and the ioUrT.i386 is executable as well
[13:56] <vanguard> ls displays the symlink red
[13:56] <vanguard> yeah, full path ffw :)
[13:56] <vanguard> thanks a bunch!
[14:31] <Super> Hello.
[15:27] <ai__> Фигасе народу!!!!
[16:46] <senorpedro> hi
[16:46] <senorpedro> i want to map alt-f5 to maximize window. is this possible in kde?
[16:47] <senorpedro> i cant find anything in the systems menu about that
[16:48] <yofel> senorpedro: go to system settings - shortcuts and gestures - global shortcuts - kwin
[16:48] <yofel> (depending on your kde version)
[16:52] <senorpedro> thx yofel
[16:52] <senorpedro> i didnt saw the dropdown. its easy to miss
[16:52] <yofel> np
[17:37] <veluxes> hi..what was the konsole-cmd to get my NVIDIA-driver running... junkey-kde?
[17:38] <yofel> jockey-kde
[17:38] <veluxes> aah thx
[17:39] <vanguard> does anyone have an idea why I cannot enable the compiz effects although I got my ATI driver running?
[17:57] <v3nd3tta``> someone knows why i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras, can run programs trough java (konsole cmd) but can't play minecraft in browser? D=
[17:58] <v3nd3tta``> browser = FF 3.6 or so
[17:59] <vanguard> maybe you do not have it enabled in the browser?
[18:01] <yofel> vanguard: is icedtea6-plugin installed?
[18:10] <vanguard> let me check
[18:11] <vanguard> icedtea-6-jre-cacao is installed on my machine
[18:17] <yofel> vanguard: then install the plugin
[18:18] <Goliath> omg help
[18:18] <Goliath> what is folder .mailcup for?
[18:19] <Peace-> Goliath: ??
[18:19] <Peace-> what's your problem exactly
[18:20] <Goliath> i deleted this
[18:20] <yofel> Goliath: the .mailcup folder in your home folder?
[18:22] <Goliath> yes
[18:23] <yofel> hm, that was the user configuration folder for some application - nothing important to the system at least
[18:23] <Goliath> yofel: do you know which app?
[18:23] <yofel> nope
[18:24] <Peace-> Goliath: no problem
[18:24] <Goliath> its mailcap actually
[18:24] <Goliath> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailcap
[18:44] <jwesleycooper> Hello everyone, I've got a minor annoyance on my hands:
[18:45] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: ??
[18:45] <jwesleycooper> I wanted to use the Lockward Screensaver in Kubuntu 10.04,
[18:45] <Peace-> mm S: dunno man jwesleycooper what's that
[18:45] <jwesleycooper> but though I installed the necessary package, it's not giving me a listing for it
[18:46] <jwesleycooper> it's a screen saver provided by the package of extra opengl screen savers for xscreensaver
[18:46] <Peace-> mmm
[18:46] <jwesleycooper> ... but it's not showing up in kde's screen saver util
[18:47] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: run this
[18:47] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: kbuildsycoca4
[18:47] <Peace-> refresh stuff... programs and so on...
[18:47] <jwesleycooper> ok, just a sec
[18:49] <jwesleycooper> I didn't need to sudo it, did I, because I got quite a bit of output ... or is that normal?
[18:49] <Peace-> normal
[18:50] <jwesleycooper> it's still now showing ... any other ideas?
[18:50] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: with sudo xD?
[18:50] <jwesleycooper> ok, lol
[18:51] <jwesleycooper> I got a error message, but it's still running
[18:51] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: could be a problem of package or... just try to log out and log in ... or try to reboot sometime this packagers forget to make some stuff like refresh programs when a package is sinstalled
[18:51] <jwesleycooper> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-jwesleycooper" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[18:51] <jwesleycooper> it finished now, ok, going to try it again
[18:51] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: no problem with that
[18:52] <James147_> ^^ probally best not to run it as sudo... as far as I know it only does stuff to your home anyway
[18:52] <Peace-> xD
[18:52] <jwesleycooper> well, didn't work, time to try a log out, bye for now
[18:53] <Peace-> *these
[18:55] <jwesleycooper> back, the loging back in didn't solve it ... must be an issue with a config file or something
[18:57] <jwesleycooper> so ... anyone know which file contains the screen saver app's listing?
[18:58] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: mmm
[18:58] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: what did you install
[18:58] <Peace-> i will try to installl to
[18:58] <Peace-> too
[18:59] <jwesleycooper> just a sec, I'll get the package name
[19:00] <jwesleycooper> well, the package with the screen saver in it was xscreensaver-gl-extra
[19:01] <jwesleycooper> I also installed xscreensaver-data-extra
[19:01] <Peace-> now i will instal
[19:01] <maramanu07> list
[19:01] <maramanu07> \list
[19:01] <jwesleycooper> plus I already had kscreensaver-xsavers installed, so that shouldn't be the problem
[19:01] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: wait xD downloading
[19:01] <jwesleycooper> ok
[19:02]  * Peace- installing
[19:02] <Peace-> so now in  sscreensaver right?
[19:02] <jwesleycooper> ah, I think I see the issue, I'm missing kscreensaver-xsavers-extra
[19:02] <jwesleycooper> which would seem to correspond with the extra pack for xscreensaver
[19:03] <jwesleycooper> trying that now
[19:05] <jwesleycooper> hmmm, the screen saver app still isn't showing it, tried kbuildsycoca4 also
[19:05] <jwesleycooper> perhaps another login, brb
[19:07] <jwesleycooper> nope, still didn't work
[19:08] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: mmm
[19:09] <Peace-> let me see if kpackagekit ha something
[19:09] <Peace-> maybe they are old package
[19:09] <Peace-> i dunno
[19:09] <jetscreamer> files in the ~/.kde/Autostart are what, bashscripts?
[19:09] <jetscreamer> if doing it manually
[19:09] <jetscreamer> not just drag/drop an icon
[19:09] <Peace-> jetscreamer: you can put bash script yes
[19:09] <Peace-> jetscreamer: shoudl work too
[19:09] <Peace-> with a link
[19:10] <Peace-> but i didn't tried
[19:10] <jetscreamer> !/bin/bash at top? i forget
[19:10] <jwesleycooper> rofl
[19:10] <Peace-> jetscreamer: you have to do ... #!/bin/bash
[19:10] <jetscreamer> ah yeah thanks
[19:10] <Peace-> jetscreamer: anyways if you go on systemsettings....
[19:11] <Peace-> jetscreamer: and you filter with autostart...
[19:11] <Peace-> jetscreamer: you can find autostart manager....
[19:11] <jetscreamer> trying to get xscreensaver-command --activate to run on login
[19:12] <Peace-> jetscreamer: i think you can do it with autostart manager on systemsettings
[19:13] <jwesleycooper> well, it's not really that critical or important right now, but thanks for the help anyway everyone
[19:14] <Peace-> jwesleycooper: Thanks, I ended up just installing kscreensaver-xsavers which has xscreensaver-gl and kscreensaver. I can now see everything in the System Settings menu.
[19:15] <jwesleycooper> I could try taking this to the forums when I have the time ... I think I already have those packages, but I'll check after the security updates finish
[19:17] <jwesleycooper> yep, I've already got all of those, how odd ...
[19:17] <Peace-> :(
[19:17] <Peace-> i dunno man
[19:18] <jwesleycooper> it's ok, I'll just make a post on the forums, and let this one go for now; it's not like I seriously need it right away :)
[19:18] <jwesleycooper> bye everyone
[19:29] <jetscreamer> i needed xscreensaver & , not xscreensaver-command --activate & :)
[19:29] <jetscreamer> activate means 'blank screen now' not 'turn on'
[19:29] <jetscreamer>  :/
[19:30] <jetscreamer> now how do i make the fonts in the application menu bold or larger
[19:31] <James147_> jetscreamer: system settings > application appearence > fonts
[19:31] <jetscreamer> thx
[19:31] <jetscreamer> i mean the 'start' button... the big K
[19:32] <James147_> jetscreamer: mmm, i would think it should use those fonts ^^ though it will probally use general for the font in the menu
[19:32] <James147_> ^^ although i am not sure
[19:33] <James147_> yes, it does :)
[19:33] <jetscreamer> yeah, menu
[19:33] <jetscreamer> cool, thanks
[19:35] <jetscreamer> ahh, the entire world should be in bold font :)
[19:35] <jetscreamer> <--blind
[19:37] <jetscreamer> how about 'where do you set things like mouse double-click speed'
[19:37]  * jetscreamer looks around in system settings
[19:38] <James147_> Input devices ^^ or keyboard & mouse (depending on which version you are on :)  )
[19:40] <jetscreamer> kubuntu 10.10 maverick
[19:41] <James147_> ^^ Then it should be in input devices
[19:41] <jetscreamer> yes thankee
[19:42] <HarleyDave> hiya folks, any wine users in here?  i got a problem resizing a window.
[19:43] <James147_> !ask | HarleyDave
[19:43] <jetscreamer> so increasing the double click interval will make the time you have to do the second click greater... right? :)
[19:43] <HarleyDave> here's the issue if anyone has any ideas, love to hear them.  i'm using y!epic (yahoo chat client) under wine, but the program starts full screen and cant be resized smaller.
[19:43] <jetscreamer> yeah ok that's good
[19:44] <HarleyDave> you can see the resize arrows, but it wont grab and resize.
[19:44] <James147_> jetscreamer: I would think so :) best way to find out is to try it
[19:44] <HarleyDave> gee gimme a chance to get the question typed in before ya lecture me with policy, k?
[19:45] <James147_> HarleyDave: ^^ lots of people just say what you said then say nothing till someone prompts them, its normaly the quickest way to get a response :)
[19:45] <HarleyDave> i understand.  thanks for the input.
[19:46] <HarleyDave> is there a wine channel here?  i am using a very unfamiliar irc client and havent seen the channel list command yet.  lol
[19:46] <James147_> ^^ normally best to start with the question if you want to avoid that :) ... but anyway... #winehq is the wine channel
[19:47] <HarleyDave> k, thanks
[19:47] <jetscreamer> okie one more thing: when i have a start menu item highlighted and right click then hit 'add to desktop', the icons that are created have that vertical bar when you highlight them, the bar has a size box, refres, tool setting icon, then an X lower down.... the problem is, while the bar usually goes away, sometimes it doesn't.. atm i have two of the bars showing up, and the mouse is nowhere near either of them. i have double click to acti
[19:47] <jetscreamer> vate items on the desktop enabled, not single click
[19:47] <jetscreamer> s/refres/resize/
[19:47] <jetscreamer> err no
[19:47] <jetscreamer> s/refres/refresh/
[19:48] <James147_> jetscreamer: weird :S
[19:48] <jetscreamer> when i run the mouse over em again, they go away
[19:49]  * James147_ notes that locking the screen will cause them not to show at all... or at least should :)
[19:50] <James147_> jetscreamer: ^^ other then that the only thing I could suggest is to try a enw user and see if they suffer from the same problem, if they dont then its probally a problem with a config file
[19:50] <jetscreamer> this is a brand new installation
[19:50] <jetscreamer> and it's not for me so this is an issue i can leave alone
[19:51] <jetscreamer> i got everything else good afaict
[19:52] <jetscreamer> i'm gonna see if it still does it on single click first
[19:52] <jetscreamer> was wonderin
[19:53] <jetscreamer> dang, where was that
[19:56] <theKamcat> is there anyone here can give me advice about kubuntu?
[19:56] <James147_> !ask | theKamcat
[19:57] <jetscreamer> oh yeah konq
[19:58] <theKamcat> i have a kubuntu system that seems to want to destroy my hd can you help me save it?
[19:59] <James147_> theKamcat: thats seem sto want to? so it hasent done so already? and what are you doing that makes it want to do that?
[19:59] <theKamcat> i'm getting system crashes that maybe are corrupting my file system
[20:00] <theKamcat> reinstall gives a very temporary relief
[20:00] <James147_> theKamcat: can you explain whats wrong in more detail?
[20:00] <theKamcat> i don't know if i have a failing hd
[20:02] <theKamcat> ok - i installed meerkat on a 2tb disk with an ext3 filing system throughout
[20:02] <theKamcat> applications like firefox cause system freezes
[20:03] <theKamcat> i have to do hard restarts
[20:03] <James147_> theKamcat: how much ram do you ahve?
[20:03] <theKamcat> this behaviour is persistent even after completely wiping the disk & reinstalling
[20:03] <theKamcat> 4gb
[20:04] <theKamcat> i have an 8gb swap approx
[20:04] <theKamcat> its causing me to tear out hair
[20:05] <jetscreamer> !info meerkat
[20:05] <theKamcat> i've not enough expertise to find cause but i've been using kubuntu for some time
[20:05] <theKamcat> lol
[20:05] <James147_> ^^ well taht should be mroe then enough :) ... first thing I would do is boot into a live cd and and run a e2fsck check on the drive with the -c option (will tell it to look for bad blocks)
[20:06] <theKamcat> yup done that a number of times
[20:06] <James147_> theKamcat: ^^ then I would do a memtest to see if the ram is ok (should be an option on the live cd)
[20:06] <theKamcat> also ran seagate tools
[20:06] <theKamcat> did find one bad sector and got an error code
[20:06] <theKamcat> but it reported it as fixed & ok
[20:07] <Tabun_> every time I log on to my ubuntu box with kde I have to type in my passoword to the vallet, how to fix that?
[20:07] <theKamcat> the last fsck.ext3 i did reported corruption in my /home & my / files
[20:07] <James147_> Tabun_: store your network keys in an unencrypted file (and option in the "configure networks" button in the network widget)
[20:08] <James147_> theKamcat: did you do the fsck from a live cd?
[20:08] <theKamcat> after 'fixing' the errors i reached a point where the disk would no longer mount
[20:09] <theKamcat> yup - also tried it from a thumb drive
[20:09] <Tabun_> Thanks James147!
[20:09] <theKamcat> the drives were unmounted
[20:10] <James147_> theKamcat: do you ahve a spare drive you can install it on? ^^ its likly the drive is dieing
[20:10] <jetscreamer> use jfs or ext4 maybe... i know jfs is solid
[20:10] <jetscreamer> no idea about ext4
[20:10] <James147_> jetscreamer: ext3 is solid as well
[20:10] <jetscreamer> i've had my issues, minor as they may have been
[20:10] <theKamcat> in a way that what i want to hear james but its a new drive & the seagate tests show no errors now
[20:10] <jetscreamer> once i had a thing like what he had with the fsck
[20:11] <jetscreamer> never any problems with jfs at all
[20:11] <theKamcat> i avoided ext4 it seemed slightly unstable on both my machines
[20:11] <jetscreamer> i'm trying it in this new install
[20:11] <jetscreamer> it's for somebody else :)
[20:11] <precubcr> please
[20:11] <James147_> theKamcat: new drives can die :) although normally thats due to a manufacturing problem
[20:11] <theKamcat> could it be the size of the hd?
[20:11] <precubcr> how do i install nvidia drivers on maverick ?
[20:12] <jetscreamer> once sec i just learned how
[20:12] <James147_> precubcr: run "jockey-kde" (labled "hardware drivers" in the mebnu)
[20:12] <precubcr> James147 no that installs the driver from kubuntu i need to install the one from nvidia
[20:12] <precubcr> it is a .run file
[20:13] <jetscreamer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:13] <James147_> precubcr: ^^ its not recomended you do that, they dont tend to work as well
[20:13] <yofel> precubcr: why do you think you need that?
[20:13] <precubcr> beacause i use pyrit ;))
[20:14] <jetscreamer> basically it's apt-get install nvidia-current* nvidia-settings && nvidia-xconfig && nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and take out everyting but the nvidia driver section
[20:14] <jetscreamer> and run that additional drivers thing
[20:14] <precubcr> aha
[20:14] <yofel> nah, using the .run is more complicated
[20:15] <jetscreamer> actually i tried the .run too... didn't work for me
[20:15] <yofel> since it breaks the package management way of handling the driver
[20:15] <precubcr> someone told me it is done by ctrl+alt+f1, starting console mode
[20:15] <theKamcat> are there any problems with kubuntu & larger hard drives - i mean like 2TB?
[20:15] <precubcr> and run the package there
[20:15] <jetscreamer> and i've done a lot of .run installs
[20:15] <yofel> precubcr: ok, sec
[20:15] <jetscreamer> theKamcat: nah shouldn't be
[20:15] <James147_> theKamcat: there shouldnt be ^^
[20:15] <jetscreamer> lol
[20:15] <theKamcat> the machine seemed ok until i put that drive in it
[20:16] <jetscreamer> does your bios support it?
[20:16] <James147_> theKamcat: then its likly a falty drive
[20:16] <theKamcat> must be the drive then?
[20:16] <jetscreamer> not that linux uses the bios
[20:16] <yofel> precubcr: you need to switch to tty (the key combi) - sudo service kdm stop to get X out of the way, then install the driver, blacklist the nouveau driver, and then don't forget to reinstall the driver on a kernel update
[20:16] <theKamcat> ok - thanks - i'll get onto the supplier tomorrow - i think i'm in warranty
[20:16] <James147_> yofel: ^^ sudo stop kdm   is quicker to type :)
[20:16] <precubcr> yofel. ... a litle bit complicated no ?
[20:17] <James147_> precubcr: its going to be if you want to install them
[20:17] <yofel> precubcr: that's what you need to do, leave something a way and X won't start
[20:17] <precubcr> yes .. happend :((
[20:17] <yofel> ah, possibly you have to run nvidia-xconfig after installing the driver
[20:17] <precubcr> today its the 6th time i install kubuntu ..
[20:17] <yofel> not sure if the .run does that automatically
[20:17] <precubcr> yofel the driver configures that for me ..:P
[20:17] <yofel> ok
[20:18] <precubcr> yes it does ;)
[20:18] <theKamcat> yup the hd reports fine in bios
[20:18] <precubcr> but plese
[20:18] <precubcr> can i send u a photo ?
[20:18] <precubcr> somhow ?
[20:18] <precubcr> to see my error scren ?
[20:18] <yofel> !imagebin
[20:18] <FloodBotK2> precubcr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:19] <theKamcat> thanks for the support guys :)
[20:21] <theKamcat> its just finished reinstalling but i know already - it will fall over again soon
[20:22] <theKamcat> i've never had an experience as bad as this before - well since i walked away from windows :p
[20:22] <James147_> theKamcat: I still think its a hardware fault ^^
[20:22] <precubcr> hahahaah why dont u part the 2 tb ?
[20:23] <theKamcat> i'll ask the supplier to change it - they have been pretty good in the past
[20:24] <theKamcat> i just wasn't sure what was happening
[20:25] <theKamcat> i think you are right james
[20:26] <naftilos76> hi everyone, i am trying to listen to A2DP audio on Kubuntu 10.10 with KDE 4.5.5 but no luck. I am using a Motorola S805 headset. I have searched in the internet but there was no wikis or anything tha could clearly indicate steps to be taken in order to make a bluetooth A2DP audio transfer possible. I have pulse installed off course! Can anyone help?
[20:26] <theKamcat> luckily it is 'her' computer so i can still get online - until she takes mine that is :p
[20:26] <mandla> Hey guys! any good UML diagram tools available? Apart fro DIA?
[20:28] <mandla> Hello??? UML tools? Apart from Dia draw.
[20:29] <James147_> mandla: unbrello
[20:30] <James147_> umbrello even
[20:30] <mandla> James147_: Iv been trying to use it, some of the diagram components aint available, like DFD components
[20:31] <James147_> ^^ I wouldnt know, havent use it much, I avoid UML programs as much as I can, havent found a single one that works well
[20:32] <mandla> James147_: is there any linux version of Visual Paradigm (VP)?
[20:33] <James147_> I dont know ^^ probaly, its baised on eclipse is it not?
[20:33] <mandla> James147_: YAh
[21:16] <harleen> hello
[21:16] <bdizzle> hey, does anyone know if Amarok has a volume equilizer in it?
[21:16] <harleen> can someone tell me how i can learn programming in linux?
[21:16] <harleen> ubuntu?
[21:16] <harleen> i have never programmed anything
[21:17] <James147_> bdizzle: it does as far as I know
[21:17] <bdizzle> where?
[21:17] <James147_> under tools if i remember correctly
[21:17] <James147_> harleen: first you need to pick a language to learn :)
[21:18] <harleen> james: which language is most used?
[21:18] <harleen> i do not know how i can learn to modify programs
[21:18] <marxjohnson> harleen: depends what you want to do
[21:19] <James147_> harleen: that would depend on what you want to do ^^ c/c++ are popular, but not the easiest to get into, python is a nice language, easy to pick up and becomming very popular
[21:19] <marxjohnson> are you looking at creating desktop applications, kernel hacking, device drivers, web applications...
[21:19] <James147_> harleen: ^^ java is another common one, though i dont like it much
[21:19] <harleen> i want learn to hack..yes
[21:19] <James147_> but like marxjohnson said, which is best depends on what you want to do
[21:20] <James147_> harleen: ^^ define "hack"?
[21:20] <marxjohnson> step back a bit, give us an example of something you'd like to program
[21:20] <marxjohnson> then we can probably recommend the language(s) you should look at
[21:20] <harleen> i want to make applications for my iphone
[21:20] <marxjohnson> then you'll need to learn Objective C
[21:21] <harleen> i want to be able to jailbreak my iphone
[21:21] <James147_> harleen: dont need to knonw how to program to jailbreak it as far as I know ^^ though there are (or should be) lots of guids on how to do that
[21:21] <James147_> but yes, objective C is what the iphone uses
[21:23] <marxjohnson> iPhone programming and Ubuntu programming are going to be substantially different - the iPhone is not Linux-based
[21:24] <harleen> (retval_t)forward:(SEL)sel args:(arglist_t)args; // with GCC
[21:24] <harleen> what does this means?
[21:25] <James147_> harleen: no clue, where did you find it?
[21:25] <Tm_T> this isn't really programming channel
[21:25] <harleen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objective-C
[21:26] <harleen> is there a channel for programming?
[21:27] <Tm_T> ##c
[21:27] <Tm_T> and multiple others, I'm sure
[21:27] <marxjohnson> harleen: If you've not done any programming before, looking at source code examples wont help you much - you might want to buy a book, or find a beginners' tutorial
[21:30] <harleen> okay thanks
[22:00] <precubcr> hy
[22:00] <rork> hi precubcr
[22:00] <precubcr> is there any way to start kubuntu 10.10 with num pad active ?
[22:01] <moetunes> precubcr:  I install numlockx and add it to autostarted apps
[22:01] <James147_> precubcr: system settings > input devices > keyboard > "NumLock on KDE startup"
[22:01] <moetunes> or that ^
[22:01] <precubcr> jeje ok
[22:01] <precubcr> thx
[22:01] <precubcr> :X:X
[22:15] <mandla> Any free PHP code generators?
[22:36] <shallwe> hi guys
[22:37] <shallwe> im using kubuntu with kde, but my mic dont work, is it normal?
[22:37] <shallwe> mic works only in pulse or in alsa too? ty :D
[22:37] <James147_> shallwe: run "alsamixer" in a terminal and make sure the capture devices arent muted
[22:38] <shallwe> James147_: aa ok i will try now ty :D
[22:38] <xxx> kubuntu rules
[22:39] <shallwe> you right :D its down all volume :(
[22:39] <shallwe> i can change there? in terminal
[22:39] <shallwe> cuz the mic dont show in panel
[22:39] <James147_> shallwe: yes, alsamixer will change the volums
[22:39] <shallwe> got :D
[22:39] <shallwe> wok s with TAb o.O
[22:40] <shallwe> just i need think a little :D
[22:40] <James147_> shallwe: up/down to turn the volume up/down, left/right to select a chanel, and m to [un]mute
[22:40] <shallwe> ty :D lets test
[22:43] <shallwe> James147_: ty man :D works fine
[22:50] <mercan> selam
[23:29] <jperl> hi, seit einem update auf 10.10 kann ich mein kubuntu nicht mehr booten (kernel panic - not synching vfs: unable to mount root fs ...)
[23:29] <jperl> versuche jetzt zwar in einer chroot umgebung linux-image erneut zu installieren, aber leider schlägt das fehl. siehe http://paste.ubuntu.com/554892/
[23:30] <Tm_T> !de | jperl
[23:32] <jperl> sorry guys, I thought I was in the german channel, however the problem remains the same. I cannot boot since a update to 10.10 (kernel panic - not synching vfs: unable to mount root fs ...)
[23:32] <yofel> jperl: you probably didn't set the chroot up corretly
[23:33] <yofel> jperl: use method 3 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD for the chroot setup
[23:33] <jperl> I am trying to fix that with a livecd with chroot but somehow grub doesn't find even /
[23:33] <yofel> you didn't bind mount /dev it seem
[23:33] <yofel> *seems
[23:33] <yofel> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[23:34] <James147> jperl: ^^ dont need to chroot, just mount it on the live cd and run "sudo install-grub --root-directory=/path/to/mount /dev/sdXY"
[23:34] <jperl> hm ok that might be, I will retry
[23:34] <yofel> James147: I only referenced that for the chroot, he has broken kernels
[23:35] <yofel> jperl: did you try to select an older kernel image on boot from the grub menu?
[23:35] <jperl> yofel: yes unfortunately none of them work. only the latest gives me the kernel panic
[23:36] <jperl> I will retry with method 3 setting up chroot
[23:36] <jperl> looks like I missed something
[23:44] <d0uglas> Hi folks. Any of you know of a Linux laptop operation like System76 but instead of Gnome they do Kubuntu too/instead?
[23:46]  * James147 notes that Kubuntu is an OS, and Gnome is a desktop envrioments ^^ and that kubuntu uses the KDE as its desktop envrioment
[23:47] <d0uglas> Right, I know, and I'd just get a ubuntu laptop and slap kde onto it but this is for someone else and I don't want to have to deal with making sure all the drivers are working, kde is able to mount her sd card etc, just out of the box KDE
[23:48] <James147> d0uglas: if its designed for ubuntu then it will work with kubntu
[23:48] <James147> ^^ the only diffreence is the desktop interface.. the drivers are identicl
[23:50] <d0uglas> just don't want to lose any custom driver or system configuration fitting this system76 company does for their laptops.. they don't just burn the latest ubuntu iso
[23:50] <James147> d0uglas: you can install "kubuntu-desktop" on a ubuntu computer to effictivly ahve kubuntu..., that shouldnt mess up the system configs
[23:51] <James147> ^^ but then you will have both desktop enviroments
[23:51] <d0uglas> but what the hell you're right i'll just fire up kubuntu -- rather than install KDE on top of their ubuntu/gnome setup -- James, the thing never worked perfectly in KDE. For example it wouldn't mount removable storage in KDE, would stay on networks and reconnect on its own, but when you jumped back over to gnome everything worked
[23:52] <d0uglas> but I think the most efficient way to do this is just to format and fire up kubuntu .. okay thanks fellas
[23:53] <jperl> thanks, for the above help. seems like I did not mount the critical virtual filesystems properly. hopefully I can reboot now.
[23:53] <asfyxia> hey goys , be careful with mixing up KDE and Gnome desktops ;-)
[23:54] <d0uglas> exactly, or if you do that for someone, make sure they have no means of contacting you when they can't get picasa working with their camera


[02:42] <tntc> any idea when playlist support will be working on android? I thought this release was supposed to fix it
[10:09] <karni> Good morning!
[11:07] <duanedesign> morning all
[11:35] <AlanBell> bug 387308 has a merge proposal against it that needs a bit more work, can someone help me understand what is required and I will go fix it
[11:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387308 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "HTTPS Proxy Support for file sync (affects: 371) (dups: 31) (heat: 1464)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387308
[11:36] <AlanBell> it relates to adding proxy support to the client, I think it needs to check HTTP_PROXY as well as HTTPS_PROXY, but someone else suggested that it should use libproxy instead
[12:08] <firstbit> Hello, I need help registering a new ubuntu one account
[12:11] <duanedesign> hello firstbit
[12:11] <firstbit> Hi :)
[12:12] <firstbit> when I try to register a new account the system reports "Registration mail sent" but I don't receive it.
[12:12] <firstbit> I'm using a gmail account
[12:13] <firstbit> and I checked spam directory
[12:14] <duanedesign> firstbit: hmm, might be busy with all the new people signing up right now. One thing you can try is using the 'reset password' link to send another email
[12:14] <firstbit> I'll try and let you know if it works
[12:16] <firstbit> Worked like a charm! Thank you very much :)
[12:17] <duanedesign> firstbit: great
[12:36] <jfcaron> Is there a way to add the note files from gnote to my Ubuntu One via the web interfaceÉ
[12:36] <jfcaron> The note files are just xml and should be compatible, but there is no option in the web interface that I can find.
[12:37] <jfcaron> (And the gnotes are on a non-ubuntu system)
[13:22] <fagan> ralsina: hey, im in a friends house now my internet is still messed up. One of my housemates screwed with the router and we cant fix it so we need to get the ISP to replace it or fix it
[13:22] <ralsina> fagan: ok, thanks for the update
[13:23] <fagan> ralsina: monday is a bank holiday but should be my swap day if its not fixed by then ill see if I can work from my friend's again
[13:23] <ralsina> fagan: cool
[13:28] <DiegoSarmentero> nessita, https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntuone-windows-installer/fix-enable-setup-button/+merge/69782 https://code.launchpad.net/~diegosarmentero/ubuntu-sso-client/fix-check-setup-state/+merge/69781
[13:28] <nessita> DiegoSarmentero: ack
[14:13] <alecu> nessita, ralsina, mandel: bug #818070
[14:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 818070 in ubuntuone-client "We should handle case insensitive filenames (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818070
[14:15] <mterry> If an Ubuntu One Music Store user loses all their data, they can redownload the music from the store, right?  Like, their account records that they own the song?
[14:16] <fagan> mterry: it should be synced to u1 if they bought the music so they should login to u1 and it should be redownloaded for them
[14:17] <fagan> mterry: other than that the music store allows for 4 redownloads if I remember correctly
[14:17]  * fagan thinks he answered that somewhere there :)
[14:17] <mterry> fagan, I see, thanks
[14:18] <fagan> mterry: as long as they have their account details they should be able to get at the music
[14:18] <dobey> nessita: hi. i'm a little confused. bug #817750 seems to be a different traceback thatn what your branch fixes?
[14:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 817750 in ubuntuone-client "Nightlies crash with credentials error (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/817750
[14:19] <nessita> dobey: we have a circular dependency issue, by changing the import we avoid that
[14:20] <nessita> dobey: the key problem is that ubuntuone/platform/__init__.py import everything that is defined in ubuntuone/platform/{windows,linux}/__init__.py
[14:20] <dobey> our code is a mess :(
[14:20] <nessita> and those two last __init__ are a nightmare of imports that trigger circular imports
[14:52] <dobey> ralsina: can you poke a couple people to review https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-installer/initial-setup/+merge/69809 please? :)
[14:52] <dobey> it has been a lonely week :-/
[14:53] <ralsina> dobey: I know
[14:53] <fagan> dobey: your telling me for 70% of my day no one was around :/
[14:53] <dobey> ralsina: it's ok, i don't blame you. it's all thisfred's fault
[14:53] <ralsina> dobey: I can poke but I don't expect much success
[14:53] <thisfred> I'll take it
[14:53]  * fagan is on my macbook so cant test
[14:53] <dobey> ralsina: it's just a very basic start to get some code in the tree :)
[14:54] <ralsina> dobey: why is there nothing in the diff for that MP? :-D
[14:54] <thisfred> if it stays that way, it's approved as far as I'm concerned :)
[14:54] <dobey> ralsina: that's a good question
[14:54] <dobey> ralsina: i imagine i just found a bug in launchpad :)
[14:55] <ralsina> dobey: the comment I just posted is a joke, just in case ;-)
[14:56] <thisfred> dobey: btw: what is all my fault? That the code is a mess, or that you're lonely? :)
[14:57] <dobey> thisfred: that you abandoned us for those weird server people
[14:58] <thisfred> dobey: they made me an offer I couldn't refuse
[14:58] <thisfred> The offer was: Work on this. Now.
[14:59] <beuno> death was an option, you're just picky like that
[15:00] <ralsina> nessita, alecu, mandel: can I get a review or two for https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntuone-client/login-user-password/+merge/69709
[15:00] <dobey> cake, or death?
[15:00] <dobey> "Uh, well, I'll have the cake. Such a tough choice though."
[15:00] <thisfred> beuno:  I considered it, but since it wasn't couchdb work...
[15:00] <beuno> lol
[15:01]  * thisfred is all YeSQL
[15:03] <dobey> nmdb ftw
[15:04] <dobey> ooh
[15:04] <dobey> ralsina: maybe a bug in bzr
[15:05]  * ralsina prefers to think of nosql in its old meaning. A relational database implemented in AWK
[15:07] <dobey> ralsina: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/654553/
[15:08] <ralsina> dobey: fun!
[15:14] <nessita> mandel: bug #802498
[15:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 802498 in ubuntuone-client "Error when doing a partial commit on windows (affects: 1) (heat: 19)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/802498
[15:14] <dobey> ralsina: i wonder if it will merge successfully when approved
[15:15] <ralsina> dobey: I have no idea what that may do. I suppose you could crash launchpad, or cause a nasal daemon problem
[15:17] <mandel> alecu, nessita: please: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix-fsm/+merge/69814
[15:17] <dobey> ralsina: hrmm, well, it seems be ok after doing clean branch of trunk, merge my branch, run-tests, and commit. the stuff is there and it didn't bomb out. (tested it locally by hand anyway)
[15:19] <dobey> ralsina: so you can close out your joke now :)
[15:23] <mandel> nessita, alecu: I did ask chicharra to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/add-watch-deferred/+merge/69816 but please take a look
[15:39] <dobey> oh snap, i better get lunch
[15:39] <dobey> bbiab
[16:06] <nessita> alecu: https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-client/xdg-return-bytes/+merge/69808
[16:48] <dobey> ralsina: evil eye for you now :)
[17:05] <ralsina> dobey: approving ;-)
[17:15] <dobey> thisfred: were you reviewing that too, or should i go ahead and set it approved?
[17:15] <thisfred> dobey: it's pretty trivial right?
[17:17] <thisfred> still no diff here
[17:20] <dobey> thisfred: yeah
[17:20] <dobey> thisfred: LP broke on generating the diff, so it won't show up on LP
[17:21] <thisfred> dobey do you think it needs another review?
[17:22] <dobey> bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/82555
[17:22] <dobey> lovely
[17:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 82555 in bzr "Merging to an empty branch doesn't work (affects: 12) (dups: 12) (heat: 106)" [High,Confirmed]
[17:23] <dobey> thisfred: i don't know. it's a big set of changes, but it's more or less because it's just an initial bunch of code to throw in
[17:26] <fagan> I think ill EOW and see you all hopefully on monday
[17:57] <thisfred> dobey: reviewed it after the fact, looks good
[17:59] <alecu> nessita, in the xdg-return-bytes branch, beware of the typo here: make_dir(parent, resursive=True)
[17:59] <alecu> nessita, it appears twice
[18:32] <ralsina> DiegoSarmentero: lp:~ralsina/ubuntuone-windows-installer/ui-come-back-to-installer
[18:38] <alecu> nessita, bug #818197
[18:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 818197 in ubuntuone-client "Encoding of the options returned by ConfigGlue (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818197
[21:02] <nhaines> I don't think I need to say that the new 5GB quota (plus 20 because I have the music plan! :D) was a huge and welcome surprise!  :)
[21:05] <nhaines> One of my computers running oneiric can't connect to Ubuntu One.  When I launch the control panel to sign in, it says "There was a problem while retrieving the credentials".  I have 1.7.0-0ubuntu2 of ubuntuone-client installed.
[21:09] <dobey> nhaines: what version of ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk?
[21:12] <nhaines> dobey: eep, I just uninstalled it.  :(
[21:14] <nhaines> dobey: I get the same error with 1.1.1-0ubuntu2 though.  (I reinstalled.)
[21:15] <dobey> odd
[21:15] <dobey> file a bug and attach the log? i have to go now :)
[21:15] <nhaines> dobey: okay, after work.  :)
[21:16] <dobey> later everyone
[21:25] <karni> Night everyone!
[21:25] <nhaines> karni: good night!  :)
[21:26] <karni> nhaines: Hi hi ^ ^
[21:26] <karni> nhaines: You did some Ubuntu One Files testing for us, haven't you :)?
[21:26] <nhaines> karni: Yup I did!  U1Files for Android was *perfect* for my vacations the last three weeks too!  Lots of photos taken!
[21:27] <karni> nhaines: Did they upload nicely to the Cloud :) ?
[21:27] <nhaines> karni: without problems, and then publishing and sharing with friends via SMS or IRC was a snap!
[21:27] <karni> nhaines: We're nailing some bugs and have a better login/register experience soming soon.
[21:27] <karni> nhaines: That is awesome!! :)
[21:28] <karni> nhaines: All rightly, gotta go, talk to ya later =)!
[21:28] <nhaines> karni: let me know if I can help test more there as well.  :)  Sleep well!
[21:28] <karni> nhaines: I sure will! :)
[21:28] <karni> Thanks, you too!