[05:33] <bossgane> hardikar, i am not getting you
[05:33] <treats> whats the easiest way to setup remote desktop... vnc??
[05:33] <Yondering> hi all.. question, I'm building a new system and looking for feedback.. trying to decide between an nvidia 9800gt and ati hd4850 video cards.. and I'm wondering how ATI's linux support is stacking up compared to nvidia's lately?
[05:33] <i> hhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyy
[05:34] <hardikar> empathy is a IM which supports gtalk voice chat
[05:34] <Dulak> treats: depends on what you mean by remote desktop
[05:34] <subir> how can i allow ssh access on ubuntu 8.04 server?
[05:34] <scunizi> Yondering, still tough getting ati to work sometimes
[05:34] <treats> i want to, over the web, use remote desktop so i can then be away from this shitty room I am in and work on this box
[05:34] <ed1> DasE1: hey i ran alsamixergui
[05:34] <Yondering> scunizi, that's what I was afraid of.   Thanks.
[05:34] <Dulak> treats: freenx is not quite as easy as vnc but it runs a LOT better imo
[05:34] <ed1> DasE1: what should i do from there?
[05:35] <Yondering> subir, sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[05:35] <subir> Yondering, already have that package
[05:35] <DasE1> ed1: does the soundcard appear in  the upper panel of alsa-gui ?
[05:35] <lyons> argghhh
[05:35] <ed1> DasE1: no
[05:35] <Yondering> subir, and you're not able to ssh to it with an existing account?
[05:35] <Yondering> sec.
[05:35] <subir> Yondering, i can ssh on localhost, but not on IP address from itself
[05:35] <govinda> whats the deal with this pulseaudio now?
[05:35] <lyons> damn wireless
[05:35] <govinda> why we need this?
[05:35] <hardikar> bossgane: you can install empathy from synaptic:)
[05:35] <treats> Dulak, freenx is the standard choice for quality remote desktop then?
[05:35] <subir> Yondering, says no route to host
[05:35] <fogobogo> govinda: to file bug reports
[05:35] <ed1> DasE1: but the first line of your instructions didnt work.. didnt find ubuntu-modules for my kernel
[05:35] <lyons> back to XP it iss
[05:36] <bossgane> hardikar, is iot for gtalk
[05:36] <Dulak> treats: it's the one I prefer, standard is probably vnc, but it runs like crap imo
[05:36] <bossgane> sorry it
[05:36] <hardikar> bossgane: yes
[05:36] <treats> ill go with you then
[05:36] <treats> thanks
[05:36] <hugo> What is the command to install all .deb packages found in a folder?
[05:36] <DasE1> ed1: alsamixergui starts up, but can't see your soundcard in the right upper corner ?
[05:36] <ed1> DasE1: yep
[05:36] <bossgane> hardikar, thanks
[05:37] <subir> Yondering, existing account
[05:37] <ed1> DasE1: it says pulseaudio for card and chip
[05:37] <zenlunatic> hugo: guessing... apt-get install ./*.deb
[05:37] <treats> Dulak, is freenx in the repositories?
[05:37] <zenlunatic> hugo: assuming it is your cwd
[05:37] <whyameye> hugo: maybe try dpkg -i *.deb?
[05:37] <Theeb> i give up, i tried everything to solve my ATI driver, everytime I log in, i get the msg "no device detect" and i must run it low graphic mode, I regret upgrading to 8.10 now
[05:38] <zenlunatic> hugo: oh his makes more sense
[05:38] <sweetgum> can someone tell me the terminal command to find my mount point?
[05:38] <hugo> That one worked
[05:38] <hugo> Thanks all who repsonded
[05:39] <Yondering> subir, playing with sshd on mine.. moment.
[05:39] <JANDRO> can someone help me recover an external hard drive that is most likely corrupted?
[05:39] <DasE1> ed1:so right driver (card) is loaded and alsa's correct up, rest you can play-figure out : apps >preferences > switch to alsa  and also make sure the speaker-icons above the sliders in alsa-gui are green (mouseclick), sliders are up
[05:39] <govinda> anyone using intel 3945abg ?
[05:39] <Robb_M> sweetgum: you can try sudo mount and i believe it would give you the mount points.
[05:39] <fogobogo> JANDRO: if something .. easy
[05:39] <Robb_M> yes govinda, i am.
[05:39] <DasE1> JANDRO:pm me
[05:39] <subir> Yondering, ok
[05:39] <DasE1> JANDRO  pm me
[05:39] <sweetgum> robb_m: thank you, worked
[05:39] <govinda> Robb_M, what should I do to make it work?
[05:39] <Robb_M> you're welcome :)
[05:40] <Robb_M> govinda: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:40] <govinda> the lastest
[05:40] <Robb_M> govinda: I dont have any experience with ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid ibex)...sorry :(
[05:40] <luddite> Hi when i try to add p4_clockmod AND check the cpufreq i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/
[05:41] <Robb_M> if you would have said hardy govinda, i would have been able to..:/
[05:41] <govinda> ah
[05:41] <govinda> thats ok
[05:41] <Robb_M> i am aware that intrepid has some issues with wireless govinda, especially that model....:(
[05:42] <Robb_M> !release notes | govinda
[05:42] <Robb_M> hmmm...whoops.
[05:42] <ed1> DasE1: i have set everything to alsa and tried other combinations. none of them are producing any sounds :S
[05:42] <Yondering> subir, it should work by default.. you haven't done anything with /etc/ssh/sshd_config, have you?
[05:42] <govinda> Robb_M, really ?
[05:42] <DasE1> ed1:channels unmuted ?
[05:43] <Robb_M> govinda: please read http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810
[05:43] <ed1> DasE1: yes i checked in alsa mixer
[05:43] <Yondering> subir, no route to host suggests more of a network issue anyway.  Has your router got port 22 closed by chance?
[05:44] <subir> Yondering, no
[05:44] <Robb_M> govinda: you may still use hardy (8.04) while we try to resolve the issues in intrepid regarding that hardware.
[05:45] <kip__> hi
[05:45] <Robb_M> !hi | kip__
[05:45] <Debolaz> Hmm.. I need to find a player that can play H264 video on my machine with more than 1 fps.
[05:45] <govinda> Robb_M, that explains a LOT, thanks!
[05:45] <ed1> DasE1: ..sorry to bother you but have you got any ideas?
[05:45] <Debolaz> That's the one thing I miss from Windows XP, H264.
[05:45] <Yondering> subir, afraid I'm at a loss, only other thing I could suggest, though I can't see it would help with the error you're having, is purge & reinstall openssh-server.
[05:46] <Robb_M> govinda: glad I could help :)
[05:46] <kip__> i have problem in ubuntu 8.10. I try to print "test page" in task list it shows fine, but doesn't prints. In windows version it fine.
[05:46] <subir> Yondering, okay
[05:46] <zzound> hi
[05:46] <zzound> how are you
[05:47] <zzound> &
[05:47] <zzound> ?
[05:47] <luddite> when i try to add p4_clockmod AND check the cpufreq i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/71675/ how can i install it
[05:47] <ubd> i want to copy files from one usb to another. however i dont have write permission. the drive is auto mounted and itis ext3. what shall i do
[05:47] <droopsta915> does linux have a program to play embedded videos?
[05:47] <luddite> yes flash
[05:47] <droopsta915> I want to down load imbedded flash player or something similar
[05:47] <zzound> ÐÎÒ ÍÀÕÓÉ ÇÀÊÐÛËÈ
[05:48] <zzound> ÑÖÓÓÓÊÈÈÈÈ
[05:48] <Robb_M> zzound....nevermind then.
[05:48] <subir> Yondering, oh sorry...it was a networking issue i guess
[05:48] <cdubya> !restricted
[05:49] <BliND123> hey, remember me? I just tried that live CD from USB and it worked...but when I booted back into windows I got me a message saying "One of your disks needs to be checked for consistency." and it went through the scans and showed no errors...is that normal after using the Ubuntu from USB?
[05:49] <DasE1> ed1: alsamixer -Dhw
[05:49] <kip__> f
[05:49] <Yondering> subir, no sweat.
[05:49] <cdubya> !restricted > droopsta915
[05:49] <moparfan90> im trying to get my sound to work on a HP tx2000 with ati sound card. help please. i dont know where to start
[05:50] <Robb_M> BliND123: im sure its no big deal, windows is just picky and wants to make sure your thumb drive didnt break or get corrupt.
[05:50] <ed1> DasE1: i checked. none of them are muted
[05:50] <Robb_M> BliND123: i wouldnt worry :)
[05:50] <mark4_> ok im not running ubuntu but i AM running gnome and nobody in #gnome can help.  when i launch gnome i get 12 instances of nm-applet launched
[05:50] <ed1> DasE1: except digital output which i set to "off"
[05:50] <mark4_> anyone know why?
[05:50] <djhash> how to configure nautilus to run a script when an audio CD is inserted?
[05:51] <BliND123> ok :) LOL, i felt cold once i saw that screen, never made a backup :) LOL
[05:51] <Robb_M> BliND123: unless it came up with errors after the check...then i would worry, but if it said it was all good, then...you are definately safe.
[05:52] <ubd> i want to copy files from one usb to another. however i dont have write permission. the drive which i am going to wrıte on is auto mounted and itis ext3. what shall i do
[05:52] <BliND123> ok, thx :D
[05:52] <fogobogo> ubd: cp it
[05:52] <Robb_M> sure BliND123
[05:53] <ubd> cp?
[05:53] <ferfactor> hi.. im tying to configure my sound tablet with alsaconf.....
[05:53] <Robb_M> ubd: cp is the command for copy in a terminal window.
[05:53] <ferfactor> but im in select car...
[05:54] <Ferrenrock> ubd: you need to add the user to a group that allows it to copy from removable data
[05:54] <Ferrenrock> I forget what it is though :-/
[05:54] <ubd> i can copy i cannot wrtie
[05:54] <ed1> DasE1: you think this problem is a lost cause or do you think there is still a way to fix it?
[05:54] <ubd> cp is not feasible for me drive is problematic it disconnects frequently
[05:55] <Dusti[n]> i enabled root login and now i cant addusers how can i reverse this?
[05:55] <lifestream> Gooood, anyone know what package is responsible for making my mouse media buttons work? It works on and off
[05:55] <Ferrenrock> ubd: you can't write because your user doesn't have write permission. You have to add it to the user group that lets its members write to removable drives
[05:56] <ubd> fuck it im gonna use as root from now on
[05:56] <zenlunatic> ubd: chmod a
[05:56] <ubd> this is gay
[05:56] <lifestream> !language | ubd
[05:56] <zenlunatic> ubd: chmod a+w dev
[05:57] <Dulak> ubd: what device does it show up as?
[05:58] <ubd> iit is dev sdc1
[05:58] <ubd> auto mounts at media/disk
[05:59] <Dulak> ubd: you could add yourself to the disk group, that might fix your  write issue
[06:00] <ubd> how do i do that
[06:00] <Dulak> ubd: sudo adduser username disk
[06:00] <fogobogo> gpasswd -a user group
[06:00] <Dulak> ubd: then relog
[06:01] <ubd> disk group??
[06:01] <ubd> omg
[06:01] <matthew> why are you making a user names disk lol
[06:01] <Robb_M> !who
[06:01] <Dulak> matthew: man adduser
[06:01] <dubby> anyone help, my places menu messed up, whenever i use any of the links in the places menu in ubuntu it says file://* no application is registered to handle this file
[06:02] <matthew> dulak I know how to make a user
[06:02] <slammed87d21> how do i update my kernal?
[06:02] <Dulak> matthew: again, man adduser, cuz that's not what I had him do
[06:02] <slammed87d21> how do i update my kernel?
[06:02] <dubby> slammed87d21 usually it will work with sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:02] <slammed87d21> ok
[06:02] <slammed87d21> thanks
[06:02] <matthew> ok and why do you want me to look at the man page ?
[06:02] <matthew> why is the problem ?
[06:03] <Dulak> matthew: it's obvious you don't know that adduser can add a current user to agroup as well as add a user to the system, hence me telling you to read the man page
[06:03] <ferfactor> any one here was configure you sound card with alsaconf???
[06:03] <slammed87d21> says i theres a problem
[06:03] <ferfactor> i hava doubt
[06:03] <matthew> dulak are you borderline retarded ?
[06:03] <ferfactor> mi sound card is 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[06:03] <Dulak> matthew: you didn't read the man page did you?
[06:03] <matthew> I just got here and wondering what is going on do you understand ?
[06:03] <ubd> ok i did the thing with chown thank you alal
[06:03] <Robb_M> matthew, please...attitude man, we are volunteers here :)
[06:04] <Tetracomm> Does anyone here know of an audio editor that is better than Audacity?
[06:04] <ferfactor> but in the configuration im configuration n card n times
[06:04] <ferfactor> it's that correct?
[06:04] <matthew> robb are you reading just trying to get a clue here
[06:04] <slammed87d21> why cant i upgrade my kernel?
[06:04] <Dulak> matthew: I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm telling you how you can learn where you were wrong
[06:04] <whyameye> Tetracomm: what is your criticism of audacity?
[06:04] <matthew> dulak I don't need help
[06:04] <Robb_M> matthew: all im asking is a little more respect for us...
[06:04] <matthew> I'm here to help
[06:04] <slammed87d21> why cant i upgrade my kernel?
[06:04] <dubby> slammed87d21 you might have the most recent one in the ubuntu repositories
[06:05] <whyameye> slammed87d21: apt-get update && dist-upgrade?
[06:05] <whyameye> slammed87d21: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:05] <Dulak> matthew: you asked why I had him add a user named disk, but I did not, and ifyou read the man page for adduser, you will understand, but you won't.  so I'll drop it now.
[06:05] <matthew> slammed do you want to update from ubuntu or another source ?
[06:05] <Tetracomm> whyameye: It doesn't let me add effects to songs while they are playing, and some other little inconveniences.
[06:05] <Debolaz> Hrmm, seems the only way I can get h264 playback is to use the proprietary coreavc codec. Oh well, I guess it's better than nothing.
[06:05] <slammed87d21> i have kernel 2.6.24
[06:05] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: you might want to try audacious
[06:05] <Robb_M> errr..ardour
[06:05] <slammed87d21> cant get my wireless to work
[06:05] <Robb_M> sorry
[06:06] <dubby> why not just use the ubuntu users and groups gui standard in ubuntu
[06:06] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: i meant ardour
[06:06] <Tetracomm> Ardour was a bit sluggish on my computer.
[06:06] <slammed87d21> ?
[06:06] <Tetracomm> Anything else?
[06:06] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: im out of ideas...did you try it in ubuntu 8.04 with the rt kernel?
[06:06] <richard> ricado
[06:07] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: if thats what you are doing, sorry, trying to follow along with everyone :)
[06:07] <richard> bula
[06:07] <Tetracomm> Rogbb_M: No, I will now.
[06:08] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: what do you mean by sluggish?
[06:08] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: the program opens up sluggish or it records all wacky or what?
[06:08] <matthew> lagging
[06:08] <Robb_M> matthew: im aware of sluggish means but thanks ;)
[06:08] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd desktop...can help??
[06:09] <Robb_M> matthew: im trying to figure out what part of the process was sluggish :)
[06:09] <Tetracomm> Lagging.
[06:09] <Frijolie> anyone know much about VirtualBox?
[06:09] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: the recording sounds a bit wicked (bad)?
[06:09] <uep> I'm having a rather severe inability to boot from my 8.10 install.
[06:09] <matthew> tetracomm gnusound is a nice program
[06:09] <uep> Anyone available that can lend a hand?
[06:09] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd desktop...can help??
[06:09] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: yeah, i would go with the realtime kernel linux-rt if you are on 8.04 :)
[06:10] <Frijolie> I'm wondering once you place a CD in your drive, which OS gets to control  it? The host or guest?
[06:10] <Tetracomm> I am uing 8.10.
[06:10] <Robb_M> matthew: can we not try to steer a user 20 different ways? lol
[06:10] <uep> I'm actually running from the live disc after attempting to install for about the 10th time.
[06:10] <Robb_M> Tetracomm: blah, the rt kernel is messed up on 8.10...dang.
[06:10] <matthew> Robb he ask if anyone knew a program better than audictiy
[06:10] <akahige> I need some gparted help and I don't want to wreck my system...  from the docs, it should be possible to grow an ext3 fs, but I can't seem to...
[06:11] <matthew> audacity
[06:11] <Tetracomm> :'(
[06:11] <matthew> akahige you can't do anything with gparted with a mounted drive
[06:11] <Dulak> Frijolie: the host will always control the drive, but you can passthru the device to the guest which makes the guest think the cdrom is directly attached
[06:11] <Robb_M> matthew: please..there are other reasons why something might be messed up, there is not just 1 definate answer to a problem :)
[06:11] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd desktop...can help??
[06:11] <akahige> matthew: am trying this from Live CD
[06:11] <matthew> robb it is a program
[06:12] <matthew> oh ok then you have to unmount the drive akahige
[06:12] <Frijolie> Dulak: how do you do that? I have some software on a CD that I'd like to install to the guest OS
[06:12] <Robb_M> matthew: please...stop :)
[06:12] <uep> I have installed ubuntu 8.10.  It does not seem to be installing  grub correctly.  I found this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/253323 that seems to specify a related problem.  How do I fix it?  I've noticed that my target partition has neither grub nor initrd on it.
[06:12] <akahige> should it matter if the fs is /boot?
[06:12] <Dulak> Frijolie: what virtual machine software you using?
[06:12] <akahige> matthew: should it matter if the fs is /boot?
[06:13] <blinkz> im having a problem with wine. first it's not showing in the apps menu, second i can't see text at al in wine config and programs that it launches
[06:13] <matthew> shouldn't
[06:13] <DasE1> ed1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/163560      , make sure its an audigy2 (maybe look into case)
[06:13] <matthew> but you wont be able to do anything til you unmount the drive
[06:13] <matthew> there shoul be an option in gparted
[06:13] <fogobogo> yar yar binks uses ubuntu too!
[06:13] <matthew> if not you can go to /media and unmount it
[06:14] <uep> Anyone familiar with grub and know how to fix this boot issue?
[06:14] <matthew> what is the issue uep ?
[06:14] <akahige> matthew: when I select "resize", it will only let me resize so far (only a couple of MB) even though there's unallocated space it could expand into.  am I missing something?
[06:14] <uep> matthew: I have installed ubuntu 8.10.  It does not seem to be installing  grub correctly.  I found this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/253323 that seems to specify a related problem.  How do I fix it?  I've noticed that my target partition has neither grub nor initrd on it.
[06:14] <matthew> I had issues installing 8.10 with the live cd myself
[06:15] <matthew> I used the alternate installer cd with a text install
[06:15] <uep> Just to install grub, or did you go through the whole process?
[06:15] <Tetracomm> Bugbuntu 8.10.
[06:15] <Tetracomm> :)
[06:15] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd desktop...can help??
[06:15] <Tetracomm> Other than the shutdown problem, it hasn't given any trouble.
[06:15] <matthew> another thing most of the time when you have a grub issue there is usually there is something wrong with the iso
[06:16] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd workspace...can help??
[06:16] <uep> I ran the cd check on the disc, however, I will state that I installed the iso to a dvd. :-X
[06:16] <matthew> uep I did the whole process
[06:16] <matthew> and it takes a lot longer
[06:16] <uep> Er... burned the iso to a dvd.
[06:16] <matthew> it is a text install it isn't hard just like installing debian and it gets updates and everything before your first reboot
[06:16] <matthew> text install is nice
[06:17] <matthew> want the link to the alternate cd
[06:17] <uep> I just want to do the grub part really.  Is that possible through the alternate?
[06:17] <Robb_M> !alternate
[06:17] <matthew> should be
[06:17] <Robb_M> !fixgrub | uep
[06:17] <Frijolie> Dulak: sorry for the delay, I'm running VirtualBox OSE 2.0.4
[06:17] <matthew> you could try the live disk to boot and then select boot from hd
[06:17] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd workspace...can help??
[06:17] <akahige> matthew: did you catch the resize capacity question?
[06:18] <paul68> !patience |darkknight
[06:18] <uep> I'm not sure booting from the hard drive will work... it doesn't even install grub to the partition.
[06:18] <matthew> akahige sounds like you already have the partitions made
[06:18] <Dulak> Frijolie: in virtualbox you can edit the settings on the virtual machine, go to cdrom, and it will let you choose an existing device which is a passthru, or the ability to mount an iso
[06:18] <matthew> if you want them resized you need to delete the whole disk and make the partitions
[06:18] <whyameye> DarkKnight: can you be more specific about your problem?
[06:19] <matthew> it is worth a try
[06:19] <Dulak> Frijolie: just choose the cdrom device and have it connect at boot and boot the vm and it will have a cdrom which is the real cdrom on the machine
[06:19] <akahige> matthew: I have partitions made for current Ubuntu install... but I need to alter them.  supposedly, gparted will let me grow them... right?
[06:19] <matthew> if you can get in to your system you can repair grub that way
[06:19] <matthew> I never used gparted to resize a disk that I was using
[06:20] <matthew> idk if you can or not
[06:20] <Ferrenrock> wassup
[06:20] <Robb_M> matthew: its not possible
[06:20] <fogobogo> yo bro!
[06:20] <Frijolie> Dulak: hmm...alright I'll try that
[06:20] <uep> At the very least you have to unmount it.
[06:20] <matthew> thought so robb
[06:20] <Robb_M> matthew: cant resize a mounted partition or format or anything, it has to be unmounted.
[06:20] <Ferrenrock> fogobogo: so I installed that one linux app, 'sex'
[06:20] <DarkKnight> whyameya; in my panel...i can't see my 2nd workspace,but it does exist...bcoz i transferred one of my process to the 2nd workspace and its working....
[06:20] <Ferrenrock> it's hilarious
[06:20] <matthew> yeah tried to say unmount 30 times too
[06:20] <matthew> like I said
[06:20] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: o rly? is it in multiverse?
[06:21] <Ferrenrock> I'm not sure, I just compiled it or something
[06:21] <matthew> I would delete the whole drive then make the partitions how you want then install
[06:21] <akahige> Robb_M:  talking here about resizing unmounted partitions from the live cd
[06:21] <Ferrenrock> I'm not sure what compiling is
[06:21] <matthew> oh and back everything up etc
[06:21] <uep> matthew: how do I install grub when it's not installed anywhere?
[06:21] <DarkKnight> paul68; see my private message
[06:21] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: compile? never heard that.
[06:21] <matthew> uep idk
[06:21] <Robb_M> akahige: yeah, im aware, im just confirming matthews theory :)
[06:21] <matthew> did you ever have it installed ?
[06:21] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: must be the latest craze
[06:21] <uep> I did under 8.04, yes.
[06:21] <karon> 天阿
[06:22] <Robb_M> akahige: you can do that, its possible.
[06:22] <akahige> Robb_M: it's cool.  wasn't trying to give you grief.  :)
[06:22] <Ferrenrock> fogobogo: whatev, I hate the people who are like 'OH I BUILT LINUX FROM SCRATCH"
[06:22] <karon> cn99不好用了
[06:22] <matthew> you should be able to boot the live cd and then select boot from disk then repair grub
[06:22] <Robb_M> !jp
[06:22] <paul68> DarkKnight: don't pm me and watch your language!
[06:22] <Robb_M> matthew: thats on the 8.10 cd? i havent seen it on 8.04...
[06:22] <darkbishop_> i think its chiness..
[06:22] <uep> Can I really boot from the disk though?  It doesn't have grub installed at all, and there's no initrd on the partition either.
[06:22] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: tru dat! they dont even know animal names!
[06:23] <akahige> Robb_M: the prob I'm having, is that gparted won't let me resize my ext3 /boot partition much past what it already is... and I don't get why
[06:23] <Robb_M> !cn | karon
[06:23] <Robb_M> blah..too late...
[06:23] <uep> I've tried booting from the disk before and it didn't work (unfortunately, I tried like 20 different things, so maybe I was having different problems at the time...).
[06:23] <Robb_M> akahige: hmm......i dont know....
[06:23] <matthew> uep did you ever have grub installed ?
[06:23] <Ferrenrock> fogobogo: actually the ubuntu animal naming scheme is partly what got me into ubuntu, I hate microsloth's windows naming?
[06:23] <uep> It's worth a shot I guess.  I'll try booting from the disc again.
[06:23] <Ferrenrock> *naming
[06:23] <matthew> if so what happened ?
[06:23] <Ferrenrock> like
[06:23] <Ferrenrock> wtf is 'vista'
[06:23] <Ferrenrock> the terminator OS?
[06:23] <uep> I had it installed under 8.04
[06:23] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd workspace...can help??
[06:24] <DasE1>  akahige:you need free space next to it and dirve must be unmounted
[06:24] <bioe007_> Ferrenrock: i put 8.10 into my toaster and it wont boot
[06:24] <matthew> and you updated or what ?
[06:24] <uep> matthew: It still seems to be sitting there in the master boot record, but *not* on the partition.
[06:24] <uep> matthew: I actually installed it fresh instead of upgrading.
[06:24] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: thats right. and their repo is totally unordered. i mean; internet?
[06:24] <akahige> DasE1: thanks.  that confirms what I was thinking.
[06:24] <fogobogo> Ferrenrock: what lame name is that
[06:24] <Ferrenrock> bioe007_: what do you mean 'boot'?
[06:24] <Ferrenrock> fogobogo: hahaha oh lulz
[06:24] <bioe007_> Ferrenrock: i mean it just sits there, and gets really hot
[06:25] <matthew> then can you just update it ?
[06:25] <matthew> This is why I do text installs :|
[06:25] <bioe007_> wow, text installsounds hardcore
[06:25] <Ferrenrock> bioe007_: forget 'brave little toaster,' I wanna watch 'hot little toaster'
[06:25] <akahige> DasE1: my /tmp partition is next to it. I should be able to back it up, delete it, resize /boot, then recreate /tmp without causing myself probs, right?
[06:25] <uep> matthew: I've tried running grub-update, but it seems to want to find the grub files in the root partition, instead of at target.
[06:25]  * bioe007_ watchs Ferrenrock's hot little toaster
[06:25] <uep> Unfortunately, I'm having a hard time downloading the image now. :-P
[06:26] <matthew> what image ?
[06:26] <Ferrenrock> bioe007_: oh snap
[06:26] <Hotshot`> has anyone here used gOS before
[06:26] <bioe007_> Ferrenrock: \o/
[06:26] <bioe007_> Hotshot`: no, but ive use gAS
[06:26] <uep> matthew: The alternate disk image.  I didn't mount my other partitions as writeable is all.
[06:26] <DasE1>  akahige:do it from a live cd
[06:26] <uep> matthew: since I'm running from the live cd still.
[06:26] <DasE1> *do
[06:26] <Ferrenrock> bioe007_: holla m_0*0_m
[06:27] <Hotshot`> I'm trying to find out how much HDD space is needed for a gOS install.
[06:27] <matthew> why not reinstall ?
[06:27] <bioe007_> idk gAS runs pretty good
[06:27] <matthew> if you just installed it anyways
[06:27] <akahige> DasE1: yes, exactly.... how do I get the UUID of the new partition so I can update fstab?
[06:27] <matthew> maybe it was a disk error ?
[06:27] <DarkKnight> hey i m not not able to see my 2nd workspace...can help??
[06:28] <cew_maniezz> hai
[06:28] <odracir34> goodmorning vietnam !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:28] <bioe007_> DarkKnight: reboot into linux ?
[06:29] <DarkKnight> bioe007_ so i have 2 restart????
[06:29] <fogobogo> fugubuntu: ive know what you did alst summer!!!
[06:29] <shirish> hi all, how do I unmount a usb hdd ?
[06:29] <fugubuntu> fogobogo: hahahahah lollolol
[06:29] <cew_maniezz> cew_maniezz
[06:29] <bioe007_> DarkKnight: probably have to install atm
[06:30] <krakatoa> i need to dual boot an xp box with ubuntu...help, pls.
[06:30] <DasE1>  akahige:sudo blkid
[06:30] <bioe007_> krakatoa: best way is to use a sheep
[06:30] <balrog> is there any foss optics design software?
[06:30] <Hotshot`> krakatoa, what do you need help with
[06:30] <fogobogo> krakatoa: have you considerd using ubuntu for that?
[06:30] <DarkKnight> bioe007_ ; wats an atm
[06:31] <bioe007_> DarkKnight: google
[06:31] <krakatoa> i want to install ubuntu on an xp box dual boot
[06:31] <akahige> DasE1:  thanks!  (wish me luck)  :)
[06:31] <krakatoa> how to go about the installation? help, pls
[06:31]  * DasE1 wishes akahige knowledge  :D
[06:31] <bioe007_> krakatoa: have you sheep yet?
[06:31] <Hotshot`> krakatoa,  u should just use wubi installer
[06:32] <cwo_> tika
[06:32] <bioe007_> sheep > wubi
[06:32] <akahige> DasE1:  ... just had a thought... if doing this from the live cd ... will the partitions / UUID's still be visible...?
[06:32] <krakatoa> bioe007: what's a sheep? clueless...Hotshot: what's wubi?
[06:32] <bioe007_> krakatoa: google
[06:33] <krakatoa> i got merino sheep :(
[06:33] <cwo_> boleh knln g?
[06:33] <Hotshot`> http://wubi-installer.org
[06:33] <krakatoa> any documentation on dual booting a windoze box with ubuntu?
[06:33] <Hotshot`> look into wubi
[06:33] <bioe007_> krakatoa: no, its never been done b4
[06:34] <krakatoa> thx hotshot
[06:34] <krakatoa> i did it using linux
[06:34] <DasE1>  akahige:1)use gparted on (unmounted) HD to change it ,apply,close it  2) mount the drive/the partitions  ) blkid 4) alter fstab on hd (!!NOT the live's one !!)
[06:34] <Quest7> wubi is an installer that runs from windows, go to http://wubi-installer.org/
[06:34] <krakatoa> why wouldn't it work with ubuntu?
[06:34] <sweetgum> how can i pause ls so that i can sort through a mega long lisT?
[06:34] <sweetgum> list*
[06:34] <fogobogo> krakatoa: plenty my friend. theres plenty
[06:34] <djhedges> sweetgum: ls | more
[06:34] <sweetgum> djhedges: thanks
[06:35] <krakatoa> i hope wub is not a reverse of wine
[06:35] <djhedges> sweetgum: ls | less lets you scroll back up
[06:35] <akahige> DasE1: do I have to mount them where they go... or just mount them?
[06:35] <sweetgum> djhedges: could you tell me how to extract a .tar.bz2 file?
[06:35] <akahige> DasE1: (I know that's probably a stupid question)
[06:36] <djhedges> sweetgum: tar xvzf file
[06:36] <fogobogo> Sememmon: with tar
[06:36] <djhedges> err
[06:36] <djhedges> tar xvjf
[06:36] <fogobogo> sweetgum: with tar
[06:36] <krakatoa> thanks ubuntians, lemme go through this wubi thing :)
[06:36] <krakatoa> bye 4 now
[06:36] <fogobogo> krakatoa: the sheep?
[06:36] <DasE1>  akahige:to alter partis, they mussnt be mounted,  but to check blkid's in fstb on hd later, you gotta mount it
[06:36] <krakatoa> sheep?
[06:37] <fogobogo> krakatoa: nvm
[06:37] <akahige> DasE1:  alright... got it... I'm off to try it!
[06:37] <krakatoa> nanoo-nanoo
[06:37] <DasE1>  akahige:live has messenger, too...
[06:38] <AlmightyT> Please Can someone help me revise this code line to work right with 8.10
[06:38] <akahige> DasE1:  I'll give you a shout if I have questions...
[06:38] <PUNISHER> hi everybody!
[06:38] <djhedges> AlmightyT: code line?
[06:38] <DasE1>  akahige:k
[06:38] <darkbishop_> my pidgin cant add someone on my ym.. anyone use other then this....pidgin seems useless when i cant add friend
[06:39] <matthew> you can try kopete darkisshop
[06:39] <AlmightyT> djhedges: sent u a PM
[06:39] <matthew> or finch
[06:39] <matthew> gyachi
[06:40] <darkbishop_> matthew:which one of this will allow me to login with multiple user???
[06:40] <matthew> all but gyachi
[06:40] <matthew> gyachi is more like for chat and has voice chat for yahoo
[06:41] <matthew> finch is more like pidgin it is a console program uses libpurple
[06:41] <matthew> !libpurple
[06:41] <matthew> hmm
[06:41] <Wintervenom> There's empathy...
[06:41] <Wintervenom> -- Empathy
[06:41] <darkbishop_> matthew: ok thx matthew
[06:41] <matthew> I have had problems adding people with pidgin too
[06:42] <matthew> it isn't broken sometimes it just takes more time I don't know why but I have experienced that
[06:42] <Joaquinm> guys someone knows an easy way to update to openoffice 3.0 ?
[06:43] <gigel2006> how can I change target of a LINK to add stuff like -command in ubuntu like in a windows target shortcut ?
[06:43] <Wintervenom> Joaquinm:  Add the OpenOffice PPA.   * Gets the link... *
[06:43] <djhedges> gigel2006: ln -s (what you want to link)
[06:43] <matthew> joaquinm have you tried synaptic ?
[06:43] <Joaquinm> yeah but only 2.4 there
[06:44] <matthew> http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US
[06:44] <matthew> you can get the deb there
[06:44] <Joaquinm> ok thx
[06:44] <gigel2006> djhedges: like as in, I have a shortcut of a game in exe. the .ink file has sometihng like -game cstrike, how can I do that in ubuntu so that the game will start and work ? (wine)
[06:44] <Joaquinm> do i need to unistall the old one ?
[06:44] <matthew> I would just uninstall what you have now with synaptic and install the deb
[06:44] <Joaquinm> i was thinkin in an update hehe
[06:45] <matthew> check for dependencies
[06:45] <Wintervenom> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[06:45] <Wintervenom> At Joaquinm
[06:45] <djhedges> gigel2006: you start the game with wine cs.exe?
[06:46] <djhedges> something like that?
[06:46] <gigel2006> djhedges: I don't have that file, that's why in windows it has a modified shotrcut with modified target
[06:46] <esthar> My mini 9 is not recognising th 2GB RAM module I put into it... is this ubuntu?
[06:46] <djhedges> gigel2006: do you have it working in wine yet?
[06:46] <esthar> it thinks it only has some 850MB
[06:47] <gigel2006> djhedges: no because I need to add  -game cstrike to hl.exe and I don't know how, THAT's WHAT I'm ASKING
[06:47] <djhedges> gigel2006: linux won't expand the ink file, you'll have to link to the actually location
[06:47] <djhedges> gigel2006: sorry I don't know much about wine
[06:47] <djhedges> maybe /join #wine
[06:47] <sweetgum> djhedges: how do i choose the directory to untar the file to?
[06:48] <gigel2006> djhedges: it's about ubuntu, in relation to windows how can you add commands to targets
[06:48] <gigel2006> djhedges: windows example: "D:\Games\Counter-Strike Source\hl2.exe" -game cstrike
[06:48] <darkbishop> lala
[06:48] <djhedges> sweetgum: try tar xzjf file destination
[06:48] <James296> does anyone here know if the udev bug is fixed with the CD insertion problem?
[06:49] <d0netsFN> could someone help me
[06:49] <djhedges> gigel2006: i know what you asking I don't know how to pass that to wine
[06:49] <d0netsFN> i was getting an error about a status file
[06:49] <darkbishop> d0netsFN just ask the problem and we try to help
[06:49] <d0netsFN> someone told me to delete it
[06:49] <AlmightyT> djhedges: 2more minutes?
[06:49] <d0netsFN> i did delete status*
[06:49] <d0netsFN> which deleted status-old
[06:49] <d0netsFN> too
[06:49] <gigel2006> djhedges: ok np. im going to ask them
[06:49] <James296> does anyone here know if the udev bug is fixed with the CD insertion problem?
[06:50] <d0netsFN> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 5494 package `foomatic-db':
[06:50] <d0netsFN>  value for `status' field not allowed in this context
[06:50] <d0netsFN> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[06:50] <PUNISHER> matthew: are you use the pidgin for an irc or icq?
[06:50] <d0netsFN> i get that, i googled and people say to rename the status-old
[06:50] <d0netsFN> but like i said im an idiot
[06:50] <matthew> I use pidgin for yahoo and aim
[06:50] <d0netsFN> and rm status *
[06:50] <matthew> amsn for msn and xchat for irc
[06:50] <matthew> zinc for yahoo chat
[06:51] <matthew> gyachi sometimes
[06:51] <darkbishop> i use all in pidgin... msn icq and ym
[06:51] <matthew> I use msn for school it is nicer for sending files and web cam
[06:51] <matthew> amsn *
[06:51] <James296> is anyone getting my message?
[06:52] <matthew> gyachi is better for webcam for yahoo
[06:52] <darkbishop> james269:what msg?
[06:52] <James296> does anyone here know if the udev bug is fixed with the CD insertion problem?
[06:52] <gigel2006> In windows I can only run a game if I make a shortcut " "D:\Games\Counter-Strike Source\hl2.exe" -game cstrike, how can I do this in ubuntu?
[06:52] <James296> that message
[06:52] <matthew> james have you checked launchpad
[06:52] <James296> it says its resolved but is there an update available for it?
[06:53] <matthew> idk
[06:53] <James296> I cant check now as Im on Vista downloading the Ubuntu Ultimate 2.0 Gamers Edition
[06:53] <matthew> nice
[06:53] <matthew> I never heard of that
[06:54] <matthew> ubuntu with there many projects
[06:54] <sweetgum> djhedges: that doesn't work
[06:54] <James296> yeah I found a torrent of it cuz the main server is down for the Gamers Edition only
[06:54] <sweetgum> could someone tell me how i could extract binutils-2.17.tar.bz2 to a dir like /stuff/binutils-build
[06:54] <matthew> I like plain ubuntu
[06:54] <PUNISHER> matthew: Would you like to try someone programs?
[06:55] <matthew> it works the best
[06:55] <matthew> add everything later
[06:55] <James296> I like linux mint...
[06:55] <matthew> punisher what programs ?
[06:55] <bmagoha> hi all
[06:55] <matthew> I like my linux
[06:55] <deagle> anyone know how to get hidpoint to install? mine just hangs
[06:55] <James296> I think I noticed Ubuntu's documentations are revamped?
[06:55] <matthew> hidpoint ?
[06:56] <matthew> I never read the docs
[06:56] <deagle> app to configure logitech mice and keyb
[06:56] <James296> either do I lol...
[06:56] <PUNISHER> matthew: for example gajim =)
[06:56] <jdm> why does ubuntu come with a big swastika as the default background?????????
[06:56] <matthew> I have heard of that but never tried it
[06:57] <James296> lol, is that what its called?
[06:57] <DasE1> jdm: to test your taste and to make you configure it
[06:57] <matthew> I am interested in a console irc program
[06:57] <James296> I didnt feel pleased with it myself
[06:57] <gigel2006> In windows I can only run a game if I make a shortcut " "D:\Games\Counter-Strike Source\hl2.exe" -game cstrike, how can I do this in ubuntu?
[06:58] <DasE1> matthew: emacs
[06:58] <PUNISHER> matthew: it not bad program
[06:58] <matthew> I think I'm gonna get rid of my yahoo and aim accounts
[06:58] <matthew> isn't emacs an editor ?
[06:58] <elkbuntu> it's more like an operating system.
[06:58] <matthew> lol
[06:59] <matthew> I've been on linux 8 years and never tried emacs
[06:59] <DasE1> matthew: I wonder why you want it so, but emacs can do lot of things
[06:59] <superfly__> whats a good video editing prog for ubuntu ?
[06:59] <matthew> I was scared 8 years ago
[06:59] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: you can run in terminal: wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Programm\ files/......../cs.exe -game cstrike
[06:59] <matthew> I like vim
[06:59] <bazhang> !info kdenlive
[07:00] <matthew> newer editors like nano are nice
[07:00] <James296> so yeah why DOES Ubuntu 8.10 come with a strange lookin default background this time?
[07:00] <djhedges> a guy work loves emacs
[07:00] <djhedges> is sic at it too
[07:01] <djhedges> *hes
[07:01] <lyte> can anyone tell me what the minimum set of groups i need to put a user in so they can log in to X?
[07:01] <matthew> james it always comes with something crazy and jungle noise
[07:02] <matthew> I delete the noise get rid of the splash replace it with a text boot get a new gdm and a new gtk 2.x theme
[07:02] <James296> but whats the point of the one they set it as? what Im saying is, what does it represent?
[07:02] <matthew> oh and icons and mouse pointers wallpapers
[07:02] <matthew> an ibex is like a ram
[07:02] <djhedges> lyte: I dunno but you can look your groups with id username
[07:02] <matthew> or antelope you don't see it ?
[07:02] <superfly__> question....when i make a simple hello world program getit and name the file .ccp g++ will not compile it
[07:03] <lyte> djhedges, i know how to check what groups i'm in, i just want to know what groups i can leave out when adding someone i don't really trust
[07:03] <matthew> superfly is it a c program ? if so use gcc
[07:03] <lyte> problem is i'm doing remotely (ssh) and can't test their logon before they use it
[07:03] <HorizonXP> is there some way to test how secure my iptables firewall setup is?
[07:03] <superfly__> im trying to learn C++
[07:03] <PUNISHER> Vim the best, men =)
[07:03] <uep> What's the error you get superfly__?
[07:03] <superfly__> if i name it .c or .cc it compiles
[07:03] <superfly__> just fine
[07:03] <matthew> yes vim
[07:04] <uep> Although, you are most certainly in the wrong channel to investigate that question.
[07:04] <matthew> idk C++
[07:04] <darth10> haha
[07:04] <matthew> or how to use g++
[07:04] <darth10> its simple
[07:04] <matthew> darth so is html css js ajax and php
[07:04] <darth10> g++ <infile> -o <outfile>
[07:04] <PUNISHER> mettew: I prefer the vim since the first time of using linux
[07:05] <matthew> nice darth like gcc
[07:05] <djhedges> lyte: are you sure they need a grp?
[07:05] <lyte> djhedges, i don't know, if only give them a single group, will X work ?
[07:05] <darth10> yup
[07:05] <djhedges> HorizonXP: port scan =)
[07:05] <lyte> ok, ta
[07:06] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: ok I'll try and give you feedback
[07:06] <djhedges> lyte: i don't see why not
[07:06] <darth10> i prfer just sayin "python" though :P
[07:06] <superfly__> does g++ compile .ccp files ~this is my question
[07:06] <uep> g++ compiles cpp files
[07:06] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: no problem, glad to help you
[07:06] <lyte> i'm pretty sure solaris i've played with won't let a user not in "users" log in via x, so i was just wondering
[07:06] <tehgeek> Does anyone know of a good iPod management prog for Linux that downloads and transfers album art as well?
[07:06] <darth10> extension doesnt matter
[07:06] <matthew> I'm to high for this chat
[07:06] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: trying it right now one second :)
[07:06] <darth10> hha im blazed 2 :D
[07:06] <uep> superfly__: It automatically tries to link the files with c++ libraries also.
[07:07] <dust_t> hi i installed a package called python-htmlgen using apt-get. How do i know where was it installed ? I need to import the module but can't figure out the name to use and there is no documentation for it.
[07:07] <uep> superfly__: I've sent you a pm...
[07:07] <belinda> hi
[07:07] <arquebus> anyone know how to get eclipse to work with C++ in ubuntu?
[07:07] <belinda> i love the beach
[07:07] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: I think you get it!
[07:07] <belinda> i want 2 be an astronaut
[07:07] <bmagoha> I have an issue with installing vmware in ubuntu
[07:07] <belinda> your personality always secretly annoyed me
[07:07] <Darkside> good for you belinda
[07:08] <matthew> vmware sucks
[07:08] <Darkside> =/
[07:08] <belinda> i like it when nice people r happy
[07:08] <matthew> !sucks
[07:08] <belinda> hiw r ya doing
[07:08] <darth10> i like it when ppl r high :P
[07:08] <belinda> lets flirt shamelessly
[07:08] <uep> arquebus: There should be an eclipse CDT package.
[07:08] <jedimind> how would i go about manually invoking the screensaver or screen shutdown (power saving) ?
[07:08] <belinda> dis is boring
[07:08] <belinda> wanna come 2 teh club w/ me some time?
[07:08] <arquebus> uep- I installed that, but I only see the icon for regular java eclipse
[07:08] <matthew> bmagoha have you heard of virtualbox ? it is nicer
[07:08] <belinda> so anything fun happenung
[07:09] <nomad77> !bot
[07:09] <belinda> im as much a real person as u
[07:09] <bmagoha> matthew: the one from sun?
[07:09] <arquebus> belinda- I know a good club for you to go to #club-ubuntu
[07:09] <matthew> yes bmagoha
[07:10] <belinda> do ya think da weather is better than before?
[07:10] <matthew> I use it and it is awesome
[07:10] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: have you results ?
[07:10] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: cannot find /home/user/.wine/drive C/....
[07:10] <belinda> nice weather right now
[07:10] <belinda> its cuter when you use words
[07:10] <bmagoha> matthew: how different is it from vmware..
[07:10] <matthew> I never used vmware
[07:10] <belinda> but lets still call each other
[07:11] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: ofcource man it was example
[07:11] <matthew> are you using 8.10 or 8.04
[07:11] <rainew> you can use tab
[07:11] <bmagoha> matthew: which superior features does it have
[07:11] <belinda> my dreams was set alight n thrown off da roof
[07:11] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: you must use your way
[07:11] <belinda> my foot hurts
[07:11] <bmagoha> matthew: ubuntu 8.04
[07:11] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: yes, mine was an example too
[07:11] <belinda>  i think i hurt it in pe
[07:11] <belinda> aer we there yet?
[07:11] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: but I think the .wine is the problem
[07:11] <belinda> hmmm
[07:12] <owen1> is it safe to upgrade now? any major issues i should be aware of?
[07:12] <belinda> perhaps
[07:12] <uep> matthew: Thanks for your help earlier.  I'm going to try the alternate disc tomorrow.  I've given up trying to get the regular disc to work.
[07:12] <Flannel> belinda: This is a support channel, please take offtopic chatter elsewhere.  Thanks.
[07:12] <matthew> uep it is nice and updates everything
[07:12] <AlmightyT> anyone wanna make $25 writing a driver and compiling a script for me
[07:12] <arquebus> belinda- seriously go to #club-ubuntu channel
[07:12] <EJ> I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 server and discovered it is using PHP5, is there any reason i would need PHP4 on the server or is PHP4 becomming obsolete ? I have asked on Ubuntu-Offtopic and noone seems to know or want to answer (the channel is pretty quiet right now)
[07:12] <matthew> takes about 2 hours though
[07:12] <Darkside> she's already left
[07:13] <Flannel> arquebus: please don't recommend that channel here, thanks.
[07:13] <matthew> it is like installing debian
[07:13] <uep> haha
[07:13] <uep> Thanks again. later.
[07:13] <matthew> later
[07:13] <arquebus> Flannel-ok
[07:13] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: come backround the command ls -la in ~/
[07:14] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the sourcecode of /usr/bin/gnome-volume-properties?
[07:14] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: oh don't worry it WORKED !! I had to delete the .wine, so it was just wine /path/hl2.exe -game cstrike ! THANKS !!!!!!!!
[07:14] <karon>  file /usr/bin/gnome-volume-propertie
[07:14] <djhedges> gigel2006: go figure
[07:15] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: oh shit ubuntu crashed
[07:15] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: it loaded the game and then it crashed
[07:16] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: have you a problems at screen ?
[07:16] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: yes
[07:17] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: do you have a driver for your video card ?
[07:17] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: it loaded the main screen, flickered, and ubuntu went back to the load screen asking for user and password
[07:17] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: not sure how can I check that ?
[07:19] <Slart> EJ: try asking in #php perhaps.. they would know more about php since this isn't really an ubuntu question
[07:19] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: there is a driver obviously otherwise I woldn't be able to see anything, but don't know which one
[07:19] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: run 'system - administration - device drivers' and check your problem there
[07:19] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: ok doing it now!
[07:20] <EJ> Slart: ahhh thank you ... i did a channel search and thaat channel did not come up for me ... i wasent sure if it was there
[07:20] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: I seems I showing you bad english ....
[07:20] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: No proprietary drivers are in use on this system.
[07:20] <Ruge> yo peep
[07:21] <Ruge> anyone know what the "buffer I/O" errors are on an ubuntu disc?
[07:21] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: your english is fine, by the way the window of Hardware Drivers is empty
[07:21] <Ruge> i just burnt it on a DVDR and i get that when i try to test the CD or run ubuntu off the CD
[07:22] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: run in command line 'aptitude update' as root then try it again
[07:23] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: Will that update my drivers ?
[07:23] <jordan_> I'm having a problem with getting midi to sound right, is there anything to use other than timidity?
[07:24] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: no its getting update information about drivers
[07:24] <jdm> why is it taking 52 minutes to rip a DVD when in windows it was taking 15 minutes?
[07:24] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: ok it's downloading
[07:25] <Slart> jdm: drm, dvd drive drivers, bad configuration.. might be lots of things
[07:26] <atax> Morning, how do I switch to a different graphic-card driver in gnome/x-windows (I have a Nvidia-driver installed, and would like to switch back to the driver Ubuntu used right after it s installation)!?
[07:26] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: still nothing,, Hardware Drivers box is empty
[07:27] <PUNISHER> gigel2006: what is you video card?
[07:28] <gigel2006> PUNISHER: Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[07:28] <akahige> DasE1: your advice on repartitioning worked great.  I'm stuck trying to figure out how to get grub reinstalled... any thoughts...?
[07:29] <DasE1>  akahige:though I'm onto leave :
[07:29] <DasE1> !grub
[07:29] <hirak99> how do i set up ubuntu to serve a folder through the ftp protocol?
[07:29] <hirak99> thanks
[07:30] <palomer> yo!
[07:30] <WIGGMPk> I am constantly having to run "fsck" on my /root partition, I am constantly using Ubuntu and all of a sudden things dont work, like the GUI is interactive but nothing works.. for instance, if I am lucky to have a terminal already open, running "sudo fdisk -ls" shows nothing (except for an error which I cant remember) but what could possibly be happening???? please help
[07:30] <palomer> checked your ram?
[07:31] <palomer> when things are weird, I usually check my ram
[07:31] <hirak99> i think your hard disk may be defective
[07:31] <WIGGMPk> hirak99: very unlikely, this same situation was happening before and I thought exactly that, but this is a brand new (as in babies bottom new) hard drive
[07:31] <DasE1>  akahige:when in grub and doing setup, mention sdxy  starts with y=1 while grub's hd(x,Y) starts with y = 0 so /dev/sda1 is hd (0,0)
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> palomer: that is a good point, I just installed 2x2GB sticks recently and it WAS NOT happening before that.. but wasnt happening immediately after the upgrade either...
[07:32] <WIGGMPk> hirak99: palomermore thoughts?? motherboard connection possibly??
[07:33] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: different brands?
[07:33] <WIGGMPk> djhedges: the RAM? no, its 'made' by Apple but RAM is RAM
[07:33] <DasE1> WIGGMPk: run a e2fsck from live with hd unmounted or check /var/sys/syslog  for faulty drive
[07:33] <djhedges> not necessarily i've seen dimms that don't play well with others
[07:34] <DasE1> WIGGMPk:  /var/log/syslog  for faulty drive  ,sry
[07:34] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: running fsck -f -y from Live is usually how I get everything back to normal.. but ill look thru the syslog, but im horrible at that, should I look for something specific?
[07:34] <atax> Morning, how do I switch to a different graphic-card driver in gnome/x-windows (I have a Nvidia-driver installed, and would like to switch back to the driver Ubuntu used right after it s installation)?!
[07:34] <palomer> WIGGMPk, I think you can run diagnostics from ubuntu
[07:34] <WIGGMPk> djhedges: but they are both made by the same company, both the same speed, amount, etc
[07:35] <palomer> from the boot loader
[07:35] <akahige> DasE1: I think I can find the right dev/partition by looking in menu.lst, right?
[07:35] <TarBar> http://ftp.iinet.net.au/linux/ubuntu-cd-images/8.10/ Can anyone tell me which one i should download if i want to put it onto a cd and just run it from a cd and have a look around at it?
[07:35] <DasE1> WIGGMPk:sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:35] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: i don't think it a ram problem but just saying
[07:35] <PUNISHER> sorry I had has a problems at internet for all the time
[07:35] <DasE1> WIGGMPk:pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[07:35] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: i'd point to the HD maybe cables
[07:35] <DasE1> WIGGMPk  pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[07:35] <iamelite> Xubuntu PPC on G3 Imac:  Can anyone tip me off on a program + format + etc... That is best to burn a DVD-R Disk to boot on a G3 PPC arch?
[07:35] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: then mobo
[07:36] <DasE1> WIGGMPk : url ?
[07:36] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: before I give you the link, I just want to tell you that is the coolest f'n thing I have seen in the command line.. I love you...!!!! seriously... http://pastebin.com/f39e57bde
[07:36] <DasE1>  akahige:the old one, yes, did you change /boot ?
[07:36] <arthur__> where is catalystr
[07:37] <WIGGMPk> djhedges: well I wouldnt count the RAM out, because it had happened a lot when I was using a very RAM intensive application/process (DVD Shrink)
[07:37] <Dr_willis> iamelite,  ive never had to uise anything special to burn them befor. - I do recall my imac could read dvd-r but not +r.. or was it the other way around...
[07:37] <akahige> DasE1: deleted my partitions, grew /boot ... need to get grub reinstalled, then recreate the deleted partition and fix fstab
[07:37] <akahige> DasE1: so far, so good!
[07:37] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: you could run it through memtest over night
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> djhedges: I think im gonna
[07:38] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: lemme get you a different syslog, I just noticed that is rather short for today...
[07:38] <palomer> memtest!
[07:38] <iamelite> Dr_willis I just bought a stack of DVD-R, i did have a working boot off a DVD+R ... Wich means i have no working blanks? *Grinds teeth*
[07:39] <DasE1>  akahige:use either reinstalling grub after...       ^ or, if you can d/l and burn, get super grub cd for automatic reinstall
[07:39] <DasE1> WIGGMPk : yes, looks like logging disabled
[07:39] <bentob0x> eeh, login and passwd as update?
[07:39] <bentob0x> can anybody confirm this before I click ok?
[07:39] <arthur__> wannabe enduser
[07:39] <djhedges> bentob0x: yes
[07:40] <djhedges> bentob0x: i googled it myself
[07:40] <bentob0x> k
[07:40] <bentob0x> would you have a link?
[07:40] <arthur__> where do i find catalyst control
[07:40] <akahige> DasE1: after... what?  ... actually, just hit a snag... have my boot partition mounted (maybe this is the prob)... did "root (hd0,4)" and got an error "selected disk does not exist"
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: well I didnt have my laptop on yesterday, just turned it on today like 30mins ago.. lemme get the previous log.. for some reason pastebin.com is being weird
[07:40] <awk> hi, i'm using a laptop... I have extended my display to a second monitor, yet I have all my menu''s on my new monitor not on my laptop... dificult to work like this, how can I get my places, network, all menus to be kept on my laptop and just be able to extend stuff to the external monitor
[07:41] <djhedges> bentob0x: i think the show update will give you a link in teh list changes
[07:41] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the sourcecode of /usr/bin/gnome-volume-properties?
[07:41] <DasE1> !grub | akahige
[07:42] <DasE1>  akahige:see pm
[07:42] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: take a look at this one, please... http://ubuntubash.org/paste/paste/412.html
[07:43] <danx0r> anyone around who might be able to answer a freaky numlock/fn key layout question?
[07:45] <atax> Morning, how do I switch to a different graphic-card driver in gnome/x-windows (I have a Nvidia-driver installed, and would like to switch back to the driver Ubuntu used right after it s installation)?!
[07:46] <BonchBruevich> Hello, everyone. I've just received the security updates for "login" and "passwd" packages.
[07:46] <BonchBruevich> Where can I read about what was the problem?
[07:47] <bentob0x> thx djhedges
[07:47] <awk> grrr, can nobody answer a sily desktop questions?
[07:47] <bentob0x> just got a bit paranoid there
[07:47] <Flannel> BonchBruevich: launchpad has changelogs, although I always find it easier to get them through packages.ubuntu.com: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/s/shadow/shadow_4.1.1-1ubuntu1.1/changelog and
[07:47] <bentob0x> especially as I added new repositories myself
[07:47] <awk> am I the on;y person here who experinces this?
[07:47] <djhedges> bentob0x: me too
[07:47] <matthew> awk what is wrong ?
[07:47] <awk> hi, i'm using a laptop... I have extended my display to a second monitor, yet I have all my menu''s on my new monitor not on my laptop... dificult to work like this, how can I get my places, network, all menus to be kept on my laptop and just be able to extend stuff to the external monitor
[07:47] <awk> thats why i dont use linux GUI
[07:48] <laobing> -cn
[07:48] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: Nov 12 09:17:16 luggs-mbl kernel: [20154.745953] EXT3-fs error (device sda3): ext3_free_blocks_sb: bit already cleared for block 4442644
[07:48] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[07:48] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: thats about the time is happened if I remember correctly
[07:48] <TarBar> I have downloaded ubuntu-8.10-desktop-1386.iso and about to burn it to the CD. So when i restart the computer with the cd in it wont erase my stuff and will just launch into the cd?
[07:48] <Ruge> hey gyts
[07:48] <djhedges> TarBar: correct
[07:48] <Ruge> guys, any hints for this error
[07:48] <TarBar> Ok :)
[07:48] <Ruge> Buffer I/O error on device sr0 [im currently testing the disc]
[07:49] <TarBar> TY
[07:49] <laobing> #ubuntu-cn
[07:49] <Slart> Ruge: a somehow broken cd? tried burning another one?
[07:50] <BonchBruevich> Flannel: thanks
[07:50] <Ruge> Slart: yes, i suspect its a faulty DVD drive, but i put in my Ubuntu 7.1 disc and it loaded fine, is there any way i can setup ubuntu from a USB or even copyin the iso to a drive?
[07:50] <darkbishop_> Ruge: i think there a function check cd for error at the biggining for the installation rite
[07:50] <danx0r> hi -- anyone help with this?  Hardy laptop -- I need to press the 'fn' key (Lower left next to ctl) to get the numeric keypad keys to work normally
[07:50] <danx0r> ie, to type 'j' I need to type fn+j
[07:50] <danx0r> this just started happening for no apparent reason
[07:51] <Ruge> darkbishop_: yea mate, im just testing the disc now, its funny cuz my 7.04 (fiestyfawn) disc loaded fine, but 2 burns of 8.10 didnt
[07:51] <Slart> !install | Ruga, you might find some info here
[07:51] <darkbishop_> Ruge: if your bios have a boot from usb device then it wont be a problem
[07:51] <Ruge> ill check these out, much appreciated!
[07:51] <awk> pffffffffffffffffffffft
[07:53] <aksci> my pidgin crashes everytime i try joining this chatroom,.. has any1 faced the same??
[07:53] <ogre> how do i clear my tmp files? im getting an error that says there is no room to save and i have over 30gb left of space
[07:54] <Ruge> top links, cheers
[07:54] <Slart> ogre: which application is telling you it's out of space? is is saving somewhere strange?
[07:54] <aksci> is any1 posting in?... cuz i'am receiving no replies on this client!
[07:54] <ogre> Slart,  its deluge
[07:54] <djhedges> ogre: type df -h
[07:55] <ogre> djhedges,  did already thats how i know i have the disk space
[07:55] <superfly__> deluge is the bomb diggs
[07:55] <Slart> ogre: yea.. a pastebin of df -h would be nice
[07:55] <DasE1> WIGGMPk : yes, there are hd-errors, is this an external drive ?
[07:55] <Slart> !paste | ogre
[07:55] <djhedges> ogre: all your temp files are in /tmp
[07:55] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: no, its an internal hard drive
[07:55] <djhedges> ogre: but it sounds like something else i wrong
[07:56] <aksci> my pidgin crashes everytime i try joining this chatroom,.. has any1 faced the same??
[07:56] <danx0r> I have a very strange problem on my hardy laptop
[07:56] <Ruge> btw
[07:56] <Ruge> i already have an unused partition
[07:56] <Ruge> can i just install onto that?
[07:56] <danx0r> use xchat aksci
[07:57] <Slart> Ruge: you can install on any partition of sufficient size
[07:57] <poopoomouth> dumb
[07:57] <ogre> Slart, http://paste.ubuntu.com/71722/
[07:57] <ironic_> .
[07:57] <aksci> danx0r, but pidgin was working great,... n i love its interface.. installing xchat for now
[07:57] <poopoomouth> really dumb
[07:58] <djhedges> ogre: send us a pastebin of mount
[07:58] <korogiannos> Time to upgrade from hardy to 8.10? or not worth the hastle yet?  Happy with hardy so far and scared to "break" things.  Any opinions as to why NOT to upgrade yet?
[07:58] <poopoomouth> ubuntu is for losers
[07:58] <danx0r> this is driving me nuts.  Suddenly I have to press fn+j to get j to print
[07:59] <ogre> djhedges,  how do i do that? sorry for asking a stupid question
[07:59] <danx0r> same for all the numpad keys
[07:59] <djhedges> ogre: just type mount
[07:59] <djhedges> by itself
[07:59] <poopoomouth> totally gay
[08:00] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: hate to be a nag, but does this rule out the possibility that its the RAM? and since this happened with a different hard drive, and a brand new one, would it be the motherboard connection then?
[08:00] <aksci> @ korogiannos, hardy is LTS, also upgrading has lots of cons... the unknown crashes n all.... so i preferd not to upgrade!   It's running slower and slower.  Somebody tell me how to make it faster, please.
[08:04] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: your message above, I preform that to each partition? /boot, /root, /home (all are separate)
[08:05] <DasE1> WIGGMPk : all ext ones, yes not to swap or other types
[08:05] <wene> hi again
[08:05] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: im not sure I follow with special commands...? and what you mean by check smart.. I know about SMART drives, but what exactly (or where) would I look for that (or just google it?)
[08:06] <ALAYA> QUESTION: good morinig, I installed Ubuntu 8.10, I was usually use evolution, now I m changing to thunderbird. it 's ok for adress book now. But how to do for mails ? thank you
[08:08] <DasE1> WIGGMPk :SMART is a hd-build in monitoring tool many hd's can have enabled in bios , providing info 'bout hd-health
[08:09] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: k, I appreciate all your help and information, im gonna give this a try after Im finished burning these images. djhedges thanks for your advise as well
[08:09] <Kartagis> if i type the name of a program in /etc/rc.local, will it be started too at the time of startup, along with the ones in /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[08:09] <Kartagis> ALAYA, how to do what?
[08:09] <djhedges> WIGGMPk: smart info http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6983
[08:10] <WIGGMPk> djhedges: ahh, much appreciated
[08:10] <ALAYA> Kartagis: I wanna to migrate my old mails from evolution to thundrbird
[08:11] <djhedges> Kartagis: you might want to check out /etc/rc.local
[08:11] <nino_q> Good morning folks; I'm hoping for some help with 6to4 tunnel setup; I setup tun6to4 interface according to howto, when I run 'ping6 ipv6.google.com', I can see responses coming back on eth0 (tcpdump), but no responses on tun6to4 interface
[08:11] <djhedges> Kartagis: you can edit that file and star programs at start
[08:11] <Kartagis> ALAYA, you should be able to export/import
[08:11] <bentob0x> copy/paste doesn't work anymore, I'm getting this: ŸŸ
[08:11] <bentob0x> djhedges:
[08:11] <bentob0x> I did a reboot and all
[08:11] <Kartagis> djhedges, will it be started too at the time of startup, along with the ones in /etc/rc2.d/ ?
[08:12] <DasE1> WIGGMPk : if you bios lets you enable smart, install smartmontools
[08:12] <djhedges> Kartagis: rc.local will run no matter the run level
[08:12] <RinTinTigger> Help! I cant access any medium on my cd drive :(
[08:12] <WIGGMPk> DasE1: will do
[08:12] <ALAYA> Kartagis: no, there is no export / import
[08:12] <Kartagis> djhedges, okay thanks
[08:12] <shadowwulf> i have a ubuntu screen with colors screwed up on the screen ... how do i fix that if i have a nvidia card ... or what file do i edit to check
[08:13] <djhedges> Kartagis: if you do a ls -l /etc/rc3.d you'lll see links that start with ether S or K
[08:13] <djhedges> Kartagis: S is start and K is kill????  i know it doesn't start for that runlevel
[08:13] <djhedges> bentob0x: whats up?
[08:13] <RinTinTigger> Please someone help me...i cant access any cd's though they r mounted and i cant burn any
[08:14] <bentob0x> just panicking, I did that login/passwd update and now copy/paste is corrupted
[08:14] <bentob0x> I copy something and it pastes this: ŸŸ
[08:14] <djhedges> bentob0x: like clipboard?
[08:14] <bentob0x> yep
[08:14] <djhedges> wow
[08:14] <bentob0x> tried vim and all
[08:14] <djhedges> login & passwd should nothing to do with that
[08:14] <bentob0x> might be a problem with virtualbox tho
[08:15] <bentob0x> yes but it's a funny coincidence isn't it?
[08:15] <whynot> bentob0x: gedit is much better, isn't it?
[08:15] <djhedges> as always
[08:15] <bentob0x> I'm a vim fan because of the different modes ...
[08:15] <djhedges> <3 vim
[08:15] <bentob0x> I touch type
[08:15] <whynot> vi is for professionals, I guess.
[08:15] <bentob0x> there is nothing like hjkl to move around
[08:15] <RinTinTigger> Can anyone help with my cd-burner? i cant access cd's
[08:15] <bentob0x> as well as yy, dd, x, ...
[08:16] <shadowwulf> i have a ubuntu screen with colors screwed up on the screen ... how do i fix that if i have a nvidia card ... or what file do i edit to check ??
[08:16] <djhedges> shadowwulf: try logging out & back in, mine does that alot but i have ati
[08:16] <shadowwulf> djhedges,  tryed that .. keeps coming up off color
[08:16] <whynot> RinTinTigger/ Did you try sudo su or gksudo nautilus?
[08:16] <mib_esa0gt9x> shadowwulf	first of all does it work in  a live session?
[08:17] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x,  it did ... and it worked on 8.04 ... i upgraded it and now the color is off
[08:17] <RinTinTigger> whynot i inserted a disk, an icon is shown, but as soon as i access the dribve it freezes and i cant eject the cd anymore and stuff
[08:17] <djhedges> 8.10 is buggy
[08:18] <whynot> RinTinTigger/What made me confused was using root account in ubuntu.
[08:18] <djhedges> you could like at using nv or nvidia
[08:18] <shadowwulf> djhedges, mib_esa0gt9x  i know its the card ... but i cant rememeber what file i have to check and edit to fix it
[08:18] <RinTinTigger> whynot i dont understand
[08:18] <djhedges> shadowwulf: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <mib_esa0gt9x> shadowwulf	using the restricted nvidia driver?
[08:18] <whynot> RinTinTigger/ As an ordinary user, I couldn't remove or delete any files.
[08:18] <nino_q> Good morning folks; I'm hoping for some help with 6to4 tunnel setup; I setup tun6to4 interface according to howto, when I run 'ping6 ipv6.google.com', I can see responses coming back on eth0 (tcpdump), but no responses on tun6to4 interface; proto 41 is accepted on eth1 in iptables
[08:18] <kiosk> hmm
[08:19] <shadowwulf> djhedges,  ok, checking mib_esa0gt9x  yes i am
[08:19] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x,  yes i am
[08:19] <whynot> RinTinTigger/Actually, as a beginner myself, I'm not sure if this is gonna work for you. but just try gksudo nautilus in terminal.
[08:19] <RinTinTigger> whynot do u understand my problem?? i have inserted a cd in my drive, an icon is shown on desktop, when i access the drive i see all files, but as soon as i try to copy or something it freezes
[08:19] <djhedges> nino_q: can i ask why your running ipv6?
[08:19] <oakmac> What does "hash table keys for warning below:" mean?  I'm seeing that error and a list of a few directories when I exit Nautilus running as root.
[08:20] <nino_q> djhedges: I want to try; perhaps allow IPv6 connections to my webserver
[08:20] <djhedges> nino_q: i've setup 6to4 tunnels on a router but that was 2 ipv6 networks with a ipv4 in the middle like the internet
[08:20] <RinTinTigger> whynot there are some errors and still cant acces cdrom
[08:20] <mib_esa0gt9x> shadowwulf	i dont know about 8.10 but in 8.04 you could try running nvidis-settings
[08:21] <shadowwulf>  djhedges mib_esa0gt9x  tells me the nvidia driver is being loaded in the xorg.conf .... option no logo "true"
[08:21] <mib_esa0gt9x> nvidia-settings
[08:21] <whynot> RinTinTigger/if gksudo nautilus works for you, that's fine.  if not, you need help from someone else.
[08:21] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x, i have to be able to see the desktop first ... or can i do that on a bash propmt
[08:21] <djhedges> nino_q: will the work without a public ipv6 address?
[08:21] <mib_esa0gt9x> shadowwulf the no logo entry just disables the splash screen
[08:22] <nino_q> djhedges: it's supposed to work... I followed this howto: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6
[08:22] <djhedges> shadowwulf: i know theres 2 drivers one is nv & the other is from nvidia
[08:22] <kenois> anyone know of a repo that has openoffice 3.0 for hardy heron?
[08:22] <zekoZeko>  /clear
[08:22] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x,  ok
[08:23] <shadowwulf> djhedges, mib_esa0gt9x  is there a way to configure the settings from the bash propmt ?
[08:23] <djhedges> nino_q: whats protocol 41?
[08:23] <mib_esa0gt9x> shadowwulf dpkg reconfigure -phigh xserver xorg or sumfin like that
[08:24] <darkbishop_> what software do i need to use detect wat my display is.. its seem to be running in low display mode
[08:24] <simon_b2> hello all! how can i disable usb power saving?
[08:24] <mib_esa0gt9x> 	shadowwulf the correct line is printed in the default xorg file but i arnt sure if 8.10 has an xorg
[08:24] <nino_q> djhedges: 41 = IPv6
[08:24] <faryshta> kenois, currently OO2.4 is quite better than 3.0, yet you can search here http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=openoffice
[08:25] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x, so what would be the way to reconfigure in general that sets up video and keyboard etc. from the bash prompt
[08:26] <egoflux> if i want to delete a kernel, do i just delete the entry in grub and the ekrnel?
[08:26] <djhedges> nino_q: i don't know i haven't played enough with ipv6, never with iptables
[08:26] <shadowwulf> djhedges,  the last time i loaded this the nvidia driver did work ... but i have to reconfigure it
[08:27] <nino_q> djhedges: okay, thanks anyway
[08:27] <pranith> egoflux, use synaptic and delete it
[08:27] <pranith> egoflux, do not do it by hand
[08:27] <egoflux> pranith, thanx...
[08:27] <djhedges> shadowwulf: i dunno man you gona have do some googling
[08:27] <kenois> ok thanks faryshta
[08:28] <jim_p> !make
[08:28] <simon_b2> no idea, how to disable usb power saving?
[08:28] <etfb> I'm a programmer, with loads of Windows experience.  I want to program in Linux too.  What language can I use that will let me do visual development like Delphi or Visual Basic, and produces stand-alone executables?  Any suggestions?
[08:29] <djhedges> vb is horrible
[08:29] <faryshta> etfb, I use VIm but there is eclipse and openmono which can help you.
[08:29] <faryshta> check
[08:29] <faryshta> !eclipse
[08:29] <faryshta> !openmono
[08:29] <djhedges> i'm not much on programming but ask the guys in #python
[08:29] <etfb> djhedges: We are in complete agreement about that!  I'm a Delphi man, myself.
[08:29] <darkbishop_> basic is abit lame
[08:29] <jim_p> !checkinstall
[08:29] <oakmac> etfb: I would choose a UI toolkit to develop your apps, like GTK+ or Qt
[08:30] <faryshta> really etfb what are you programming?
[08:30] <oakmac> etfb: then you can pick the language you want to write them in, say PHP, Python, C++, etc
[08:30] <egoflux> pranith, i can't find it on synaptic...its wierd because inever really installed that kernel, i was installing some modules for vitrualbox but it installed this new kernel...so i'm trying to get rid of it because it changed the entry in grub...
[08:30] <darkbishop_> i think sdk platform kan run here as well as windows.. so u shuld try tat..
[08:30] <egoflux> i aldready deleted the modules wuith synaptic
[08:30] <etfb> faryshta: I'm a language junkie: I can program in any of three dozen languages provided I have online help.  So it's wide open.
[08:31] <oakmac> etfb: are you looking for cross-platform compatibility or developing specifically for Linux?
[08:31] <pranith> egoflux, what entries does the grub have?
[08:31] <etfb> My main requirement is to be able to produce something with a KDE/Gnome user interface.
[08:31] <darkbishop_> etfb:then you can use sdk platform base program if you looking to do programming in linux then
[08:31] <djhedges> etfb: python will be your friend
[08:31] <darkbishop_> i think bash programming is run in c rite
[08:31] <etfb> djhedges: What do you suggest for GUI programming in Python.
[08:31] <joaopinto> etfb, if you use Delphi I guess you are looking for RAD, try gambas
[08:31] <djhedges> etfb: never done gui
[08:32] <djhedges> etfb: just scripting in bash & python
[08:32] <etfb> joaopinto: What's gambas?
[08:32] <faryshta> etfb, if that is desktop applicatons I recommend QT if it is web applications I heard about Eclipse.
[08:32] <djhedges> etfb: i think python does some gui w/ gtk
[08:32] <faryshta> Personally I only use VIm.
[08:32] <etfb> djhedges: Admittedly, for command-line stuff I tend to use bash, Perl and Common Lisp.
[08:32] <joaopinto> etfb, it's a VB alike IDE for Linux
[08:32] <etfb> joaopinto: What languages does it support?  And what window managers?
[08:33] <darkbishop_> faryshta:emacs will do good to
[08:33] <faryshta> I have only 10 fingers darkbishop
[08:33] <etfb> faryshta: I'm an Emacs man, but I know my hjkl cursor keys for emergencies.
[08:33] <shadowwulf> mib_esa0gt9x,  now i have a blank log in screen ... and once i log in ... the screen in blank ...
[08:33] <egoflux> pranith, its on my laptoop so cant copy paste...but there's two diferent kernels...thenew one is vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-openvz
[08:33] <egoflux> the other one is generic
[08:33] <joaopinto> etfb, it supports BASIC, and it provides GTK or QT interfaces, you don't develope specifically for GNOME/KDE, you developed either using GTK or QT, or something else :P
[08:33] <darkbishop_> etfb:hear something about mono project earlierthis year.. its a program similier like vb for vb or vb.net programmer
[08:33] <pranith> in synaptic go to obsolete tab
[08:33] <joaopinto> etfb, http://gambas.sourceforge.net/
[08:33] <pranith> there you will find this one
[08:33] <pranith> hopefully...
[08:34] <zosologist> is there any easyish way to change icons for spesific files?
[08:34] <egoflux> obsolete tab?
[08:34] <oakmac> I have a web server daemon running and I don't know what it is.  How can I find out what's using my port 80?
[08:34] <darkbishop_> zosologist: what way are u using now?
[08:34] <joaopinto> etfb, or, just use wxpython, python is a must know this days, and wxwidgets is a nice graphical lib, which is cross plataform
[08:34] <darkbishop_> oakmac:tat would be ur webserver
[08:34] <zosologist> no way at all, i just dont care much to do it if its going to be complicated
[08:35] <darkbishop_> oakmac: use nmap to scan ur port
[08:35] <zosologist> because i would like to do quite a few
[08:35] <etfb> joaopinto: I found wxwidgets to be quite unattractive to look at.  Has it improved?
[08:35] <faryshta> oakmac, try to open a browser and on the url put http://localhost/
[08:35] <sken> how can i watch videos in songbird?
[08:35] <etfb> joaopinto: I would certainly prefer Python over Perl; just need to spend a weekend getting fluent.
[08:35] <oakmac> There's a web server running, but it's not from my lampp installation.
[08:35] <sken> what gstreamer can i download?
[08:35] <darkbishop_> wth is songbird?
[08:35] <darkbishop_> !info songbird
[08:35] <joaopinto> etfb, python is FAR more friendly than perl :)
[08:36] <faryshta> etfb, try QtCreator.
[08:36] <darkbishop_> !songbird
[08:36] <joaopinto> etfb, wxwidgets looks nice, at least on linux, wxgtk
[08:36] <faryshta> !info eclipse
[08:36] <faryshta> !info qt
[08:36] <aksci> darkbishop,... its a browser integrated music player.... try googling
[08:37] <etfb> joaopinto: Ah, but in Perl you can headbutt the punctuation keys for ten minutes and you've written a program.  With documentation!  In python, you actually have to use letters too!  How primitive!
[08:37] <joaopinto> darkbishop, songbird is available on getdeb
[08:37] <Peddy> Could someone PLEASE help me with a command that reinstalls all Pulseaudio packages? Thanks
[08:37] <joaopinto> lol etfb
[08:37] <sken> any help with songbird
[08:37] <joaopinto> Peddy, sudo apt-get install --reinstall pulseaudio
[08:37] <zosologist> darkbishop: then i assume there is no easy way?
[08:37] <etfb> Does Eclipse do languags other than Java?  Java is the one sin I refuse to commit.
[08:37] <joaopinto> sken, what is your problem ?
[08:37] <faryshta> darkbishop, songbird is a music player which uses the same engine as firefox and amazingly need as much as ram as firefox.
[08:37] <oakmac> I use lampp regularly, but somehow another web server is running right now (not my normal instance of apache from lampp).  How can I figure out what's running as my web server so I can shut it down?
[08:37] <sken> i can't watch videos
[08:38] <joaopinto> etfb, there are eclipse plugins for, C++, PHP, Python, etc
[08:38] <sken> in songbird
[08:38] <faryshta> etfb, I have never used eclipse, the only IDE I have used are GTK and Qt.
[08:38] <sken> any clue about gstreamer
[08:38] <etfb> joaopinto: Do they let you do UI programming?  Drag and drop form design, event handlers, etc?
[08:38] <joaopinto> etfb, but not for GUI design, as far as I know
[08:38] <faryshta> sken, what is wrong with gstreamer?
[08:38] <joaopinto> etfb, know, no GUI designer
[08:38] <etfb> joaopinto: Pity.
[08:38] <jim_p> has anyone tried to compile fatrat?
[08:38] <zosologist> also whats the best program to display widgets?
[08:38] <sken> i can't watch videos in songbird
[08:39] <zosologist> or is there one built into gnome, or ubuntu?
[08:39] <joaopinto> etfb, there aren't that much fully integrated IDEs on Linux, the usual approach is to have a code IDE, and a GUI designer, a different tool
[08:39] <linzhavon> install gnome-nettool ,and try.maybe it  can help you.
[08:39] <etfb> joaopinto: Gambas looks promising though.  Thanks!  I'd never heard of it before.
[08:39] <sken> i installed flash player but nothing
[08:39] <Slart> sken: is it supposed to show videos?
[08:39] <etfb> joaopinto: That's probably why there are so few good GUI programs in Linux...
[08:39] <whynot> angryuser?  I'm scared.
[08:39] <faryshta> Gstreamer is a collection of codecs, in order to install them all just do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:39] <sken> yes
[08:40] <joaopinto> etfb, Gambas has an huge potential, it just doesn't get much credit because linux developers tend to be VB haters :P
[08:40] <faryshta> what is VB?
[08:40] <faryshta> !info VB
[08:40] <whynot> visual basic, maybe
[08:40] <joaopinto> Fargh, Visual Basic
[08:40] <etfb> joaopinto: ALL developers are VB haters...  After age 13.
[08:40] <angryuser> whynot: dont worry i dont bite ubuntu users
[08:40] <faryshta> Ahh. Yeah, I hate VB.
[08:40] <MindVirus> The Jewker: vy so seriyish vit you already?
[08:40] <abortd> anyone know how to use a bin file?
[08:40] <joaopinto> etfb, not really, I have used it until 23 :P
[08:40] <abortd> VB is nice
[08:40] <whynot> angryuser/what about window user?
[08:41] <darkbishop_> aint bin file for windows?
[08:41] <darkbishop_> !bin
[08:41] <joaopinto> abortd, you mean an executable .bin installer file ?
[08:41] <etfb> joaopinto: Next time you're visiting Windows, try Delphi.  MUCH nicer.
[08:41] <faryshta> abortd, want to do what which what binary with which extension?
[08:41] <abortd> joaopinto: yes
[08:41] <abortd> it doesnt have a visible extension
[08:41] <joaopinto> etfb, VB came just after Pascal on my learning, so never had a chance to play with Delphi :P
[08:41] <Dr_willis> '.bin' extension means very very very little.. other then 'binary' :) its used way too much  for too many things
[08:41] <faryshta> abortd, sudo chmod +x archive.bin; ./archive.bin
[08:42] <joaopinto> abortd, file archive.bin
[08:42] <abortd> what that do?
[08:42] <joaopinto> that will provide you some more details about the file
[08:42] <joaopinto> like wether its a binary, script, or something else
[08:42] <faryshta> abortd, gives permision of execution to your bin and then execute it.
[08:42] <abortd> what will joaopinto
[08:42] <angryuser> whynot: they dont have much future in front them
[08:42] <etfb> So: investigate Eclipse to check its RAD capabilities; investigate wxpython to see if it's no longer as ugly as before; try out Gambas; not a bad set of results for a few minutes of typing and reading.  Thanks, all!
[08:42] <joaopinto> abortd, on the terminal type: file filename.bin
[08:43] <Dr_willis> Normally someone in here asking how to use a .bin file - triggers a red flag.. :) 'danger danger' :P
[08:43] <joaopinto> etfb, good luck :)
[08:43] <oakmac> I have a web server running that I want to shut down.  How can I figure out what process is being the web server?
[08:43] <etfb> Here I go...
[08:43] <joaopinto> abortd, what are you trying to install ?
[08:43] <ghostknife> I have just installed a new system. I can smbclient -L //somehost, but I can't mount the shares, it tells me the "missing codepage" error and that I need the mount.cifs helper. where can I find mount.cifs?
[08:43] <mib_esa0gt9x> anyone know if ubuntu 0.9.2 is in the 8.04 backports?
[08:43] <whynot> whynot/ I'm still running win2k with ubuntu all together.
[08:43] <mib_esa0gt9x> 	anyone know if VLC 0.9.2 is in the 8.04 backports?
[08:43] <Dr_willis> !find mount.cifs
[08:43] <joaopinto> oakmac, check the running processes with "ps -ef"
[08:43] <linzhavon> or you can install nmap,there are several frontends for it,such as Zenmap,knmap(KDE-based).
[08:44] <jin> would there be a big difference in performance if I chose 	PC2-9200  ram over PC2-6400?
[08:44] <zosologist> so is there no way to change the icon of a .exe ill be running through wine?
[08:44] <abortd>  ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, statically linked, stripped
[08:44] <owen1> is it safe to upgrade to 8.10 now? any horror stories?
[08:44] <zosologist> or a launcher on a deskto0p
[08:44] <abortd> thats what it said it doesnt have a .bin file extension
[08:44] <ghostknife> Or hwo can I see on another system where mount.cifs is coming from
[08:44] <wene> hello
[08:44] <faryshta> owen1, first which hardware you have?
[08:45] <wene> have you heard about a problem that ubuntu breaks MBR with ReFit ?
[08:45] <faryshta> wireless, graphic card and sound.
[08:45] <whynot> jin/ My ubuntu pc is still exploiting SDRAM.  the difference between 9200 and 6400, does it really matter?
[08:45] <owen1> faryshta: hp desktop
[08:45] <faryshta> my upgrade was painless.
[08:45] <faryshta> Graphic card?
[08:45] <bmagoha> hi all
[08:45] <oakmac> apache is installed and running on my machine; how do I remove it?
[08:45] <owen1> faryshta: let me see..
[08:45] <faryshta> oakmac, sudo apt-get purge apache
[08:45] <faryshta> maybe
[08:46] <oakmac> that didn't work; i must have installed another package that installed apache with it
[08:46] <m0u5e> is there a good program for like... note card memorization of vocabularly etc?
[08:47] <bmagoha> i have installed vmware on ubuntu 8.04. but when i try to launch it, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m7ef09b12
[08:47] <bmagoha> any idea?
[08:47] <oakmac> how can i get a list of all packages installed on my machine?
[08:47] <sken> i have installed restricted extras but i can't watch videos in songbird
[08:47] <jim_p> has anyone tried to compile fatrat?
[08:47] <sken> any clue?
[08:48] <faryshta> bmagoha, try: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:48] <whynot>  oakmac/program ----> install and remove
[08:48] <joaopinto> oakmac, run: sudo netstat -lp
[08:48] <joaopinto> to check for running services
[08:48] <oakmac> it's apache2
[08:48] <oakmac> but not the apache that i usually run from /opt/lampp
[08:48] <oakmac> it's /usr/sbin/apache2
[08:48] <jim_p> sken: give me a sec to look
[08:48] <darkbishop_> oakmac: top can do the same thing
[08:49] <TarBar> Is wubi virus free because i did a scan of wubi.exe and ArcaVir picked up Trojan.Small.Ji ?
[08:49] <joaopinto> oakmac, you should not use lampp, you should use the regular ubuntu packages
[08:49] <faryshta> sudo apt-get remove apache2* mysql* php* python*
[08:49] <joaopinto> /usr/sbin/apache2 is the apache version from the ubuntu package
[08:49] <owen1> faryshta: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev a2)
[08:49] <jim_p> sken: do you have gstreamer plugins installed?
[08:49] <tta> oakmac, dpkg --get selections > installed.txt
[08:50] <whynot> TarBar/I don't care about viruses because I don't save any data on pc but on external hard drive or usb drive
[08:50] <cheatcountry> have a question about mounting
[08:50] <sken> are u the greek tux?
[08:50] <jim_p> sken: hahaahahahaha no
[08:50] <esperegu> where can I find a list with repository updates for ubuntu?
[08:50] <jim_p> sken: not tux, but greek
[08:50] <faryshta> Well I cant be sure but so far I know there is official support by System->Hardware Drivers
[08:50] <bmagoha> faryshta: i get this: http://pastebin.com/d36ee030
[08:50] <darkbishop_> !repository
[08:51] <joaopinto> esperegu, there is no special list for updates, just the one available on the "Software sources" menu
[08:51] <sken> well file ego boro na do videos sto firefox alla oxi sto sogbird
[08:51] <tes1> im booted of cd
[08:51] <darkbishop_> sken: please use english dude
[08:51] <joaopinto> sken, keep english here please
[08:51] <joaopinto> !gr | sken
[08:51] <Peddy> Can someone please help me? Whenever I try to do something as root, I get this message after entering my password: sorry, user peddy is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/echo' as root on localhost. Can someone please help me?
[08:51] <oakmac> perfect faryshta, sudo apt-get remove apache2* did the trick
[08:52] <darkbishop_> !my
[08:52] <jim_p> sken: check my pm about the plugins
[08:52] <faryshta> bmagoha, how did you install vmware?
[08:52] <darkbishop_> joaopinto: how do i get to ubuntu malaysia?
[08:52] <joaopinto> Peddy, have you changed your sudoers file ?
[08:52] <faryshta> great it worked oakmac the support in Xampp is great I also use it.
[08:52] <Peddy> joaopinto: No, I have not.
[08:52] <esperegu> joaopinto: is it not possible to check on a webpage somewhere somehow if an update that pops up is really an update from ubuntu? (I just got a message that login and passwd are updateble and I would like to be able to confirm online somewhere with an update that not someone is getting in the middle or something)
[08:52] <joaopinto> Peddy, does your user belong to the admin group ?
[08:53] <karon> wow?
[08:53] <darkbishop_> esperegu:login password is the 2 latest update from ubuntu
[08:53] <cheatcountry> where is the directory where the mounted hard drives are located?
[08:53] <joaopinto> espacious, your ubuntu repositories are signed with a GPG key, unless you manually added a repository from a 3rd party, you can only get updates from the Ubuntu master servers
[08:53] <esperegu> darkbishop_: thx.
[08:53] <bmagoha> faryshta: i follwed this: http://peterc.org/2008/62-how-to-install-vmware-tools-on-ubuntu-hardy-804-under-vmware-fusion.html
[08:53] <faryshta> cheatcountry, in nautilus go Places->Computer
[08:53] <tta> cheatcountry, where you mounted them ;)
[08:54] <Peddy> joaopinto: Thanks, I think that did it. I've had quite a lot of uptime, and I couldn't isolate this problem after a reboot.
[08:54] <esperegu> joaopinto: yeah. I manually added. so it is not possible to open a secure connection via https or something and get a list of the latests updates?
[08:54]  * Peddy dances
[08:54] <joaopinto> Peddy, on the terminal type: "id"
[08:54] <abortd> joaopinto:  ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, statically linked, stripped
[08:55] <abortd> its not a .bin extension but the properties says it is
[08:55] <Peddy> joaopinto: Adding my user back to Admin fixed it. Cheers
[08:55] <joaopinto> abortd, ok, thats an installer, what are you trying to install ?
[08:55] <bmagoha> faryshta: and i had vmware-server version 1.0.7
[08:55] <joaopinto> abortd, extensions have no meaning on linux
[08:55] <joaopinto> cheatcountry, usually under /media
[08:56] <abortd> joaopinto: im trying to install regnum
[08:56] <joaopinto> abortd, chmod u+x file.bin
[08:56] <joaopinto> abortd, ./file.bin
[08:56] <faryshta> bmagoha, I think I can't help you, will have to probe it myself. Maybe is that you miss a step or done it on a wrong way.
[08:56] <jim_p> has anyone tried to compile fatrat?
[08:56] <joaopinto> probably it needs to be installed with root: sudo ./file.bin
[08:56] <abortd> whats chmod u+x do
[08:56] <Lin-Lin> Hello
[08:56] <joaopinto> jim_p, yes, I have some packages for it, but the libtorrent on ubuntu is broken, and it will crash after a few seconds
[08:56] <bmagoha> faryshta: ok
[08:56] <budgie> hey anyone had experience with bluetooth audio
[08:57] <joaopinto> abortd, it sets the file to executable, chmod = change mod, u = user, +x = assign executable
[08:57] <bmagoha> faryshta: now how can i uninstall from from the system?
[08:57] <abortd> ok thanks
[08:57] <faryshta> bmagoha, keep asking for help here, hopefully someone else knowus.
[08:57] <joaopinto> bmagoha, vmware provides a vmware uninstall script
[08:57] <faryshta> if you install it with the source.
[08:57] <jim_p> joaopinto: i can use it without torrent parameters. can i say my problem?
[08:57] <joaopinto> on the terminal type: vmware, and then hit the tab key
[08:58] <faryshta> then just open a terminal and go to the directory where it was saved.
[08:58] <cheatcountry> joaopinto, I tried that but its not there. I see it when I go to places > computer but when I'm in netbeans and trying to open a project, I can't find computer
[08:58] <abortd> joaopinto: when i do chmod u+x file.bin it doesnt work since there is no extension on the file
[08:58] <joaopinto> jim_p, fatrat only works with torrents, at least from my exprience
[08:58] <abortd> when i do chmod u+x file it works
[08:58] <faryshta> I mean: cd open-vm.....
[08:58] <abortd> it just skips a line
[08:58] <faryshta> then just
[08:58] <faryshta> sudo make uninstall.
[08:58] <joaopinto> abortd, so just, chmod u+x file (without the .bin)
[08:58] <budgie> I have managed to get the headset to connect but it isn't showing up in my sound preferences .... I am running intrepid
[08:58] <esperegu> joaopinto: yeah. I manually added. so it is not possible to open a secure connection via https or something and get a list of the latests updates?
[08:59] <jim_p> joaopinto: i want to use it like a normal download manager like wget!!! it even supports rapidshare!
[08:59] <budgie> any suggestions one what to do?
[08:59] <joaopinto> esperegu, no, that list is already what you get on the system update notifier
[08:59] <abortd> and if i decide regnum is stupid i just sudo aptitude purge file
[08:59] <joaopinto> jim_p, the page states it does, but I have compiled it, and tested, and it does not
[09:00] <esperegu> joaopinto: ok. thx,
[09:00] <Lin-Lin> Hello! Why you not reply my comment??
[09:00] <faryshta> Lin-Lin, what is your problem?
[09:00] <joaopinto> abortd, no, because that instaler, is not a .deb package, it will need to be removed with whatever uninstall scripts comes with it (if any)
[09:00] <optimus> hi
[09:00] <Kartagis> what's another channel besides #mozilla for asking about thunderbird? #mozilla is +i
[09:00] <jim_p> joaopinto: really? rs links is the main reason i want fatrat!!!!
[09:01] <Lin-Lin> I don't now, this is my first team, use this.
[09:01] <joaopinto> jim_p, if you really want to test by yourself: http://abs.getdeb.net/post_build/intrepid/
[09:01] <joaopinto> Lin-Lin, what is your problem ?
[09:02] <faryshta> Ok Lin-Lin, do you have any issue with your machine?
[09:02] <jim_p> joaopinto: does it mind i am on hardy?
[09:02] <joaopinto> jim_p, it does, probably it will not install on hardy
[09:03] <joaopinto> it was build on intrepid
[09:03] <faryshta> Mmm. Lin-Lin gone I think I scare him.
[09:03] <faryshta> !you
[09:03] <budgie> can anyone help me?
[09:03] <ivarss> Hi *. Can't decide is this is server specific question or not.
[09:03] <ivarss> Perhaps I am missing the obvious, but how do I include new schema files in openldap configuration? Intrepid ships with openldap v2.4 which uses new cn=config style configuration and not slapd.conf Thanks and please point me to the right direction if this is not a proper place to ask.
[09:04] <jim_p> joaopinto: so i am back on the drawing board :(
[09:04] <wariskampar> someone pls help me with FF3
[09:04] <fen`> jim_p: what are you drawing on the board? :0
[09:04] <borislav_simic> yes budgie
[09:04] <joaopinto> ivarss, better ask on #ubuntu-server
[09:04] <joaopinto> !anyone | wariskampar
[09:05] <jim_p> joaopinto: are you 100% positive it does not work with rs links?
[09:05] <joaopinto> jim_p, yes I am
[09:05] <fen`> wariskampar: whats your problem with ff3?
[09:05] <wariskampar> FF3 has stop responding..
[09:05] <jim_p> joaopinto: i draw my perfect system :P . ok then i dump fatrat for now
[09:05] <ivarss> joaopinto: thanks, will try there
[09:05] <wariskampar> whenever i click any link, no activity
[09:06] <fen`> does the window go grey?
[09:06] <ghostknife> We have a centralized samba share for mounting all the /var/cache/apt/archives of all the ubuntu machines. This allows less downloads when doing updates. We also have the repositories download from a centralized location. So we update the main machine, and then the other machines update from the local network.
[09:07] <fen`> ghostknife: why samba instead of http?
[09:07] <joaopinto> ghostknife, you should use an apt cacher service for that
[09:07] <Ruge> can someone give us a hand with Wubi?
[09:07] <Lin-Lin> Hello!!!^^
[09:07] <joaopinto> using samba to share /var/cache/apt/archives may lead to concurrency issues
[09:07] <jim_p> joaopinto: where can i find the compiling options that made that deb in getdeb server?
[09:08] <fen`> joaopinto: does apt cacher not work at a local desktop level? or is it like debmirror?
[09:08] <budgie> borislav_simic: have you managed to get bluetooth audio to show up in sound preferences?
[09:08] <Lin-Lin> Please help me, i have a big problem
[09:08] <joaopinto> fen`, the apt cacher is set at some central desktop/server, and then you just poing your sources.list from the other clients to it
[09:08] <borislav_simic> sorry i have no bluetooth on my desktop
[09:08] <joaopinto> it will fetch just when required, it does not mirror like debmirror
[09:08] <joaopinto> it's more like a caching proxy
[09:08] <Lin-Lin> Hai??
[09:09] <fen`> joaopinto: so its really just automating the core tool debmirror
[09:09] <joaopinto> fen`, I am not that familiar with debmirror
[09:09] <Ruge> yoyo
[09:09] <Lin-Lin> What you mean??
[09:09] <ghostknife> Now is the first time we installed a clean machine in a long time. But it has to download 177mb of packages, even though all other machines are up to date. I assume apt is is deleting them
[09:09] <joaopinto> fen`, debmirror does a full archive mirroring, right ?
[09:09] <fen`> yes
[09:09] <ghostknife> fen`: so the machines don't have to store them locally
[09:09] <ghostknife> joaopinto: like which?
[09:09] <fen`> so apt-cache is on demand fetching?
[09:10] <ghostknife> fen`: ok. will check it out. thanks
[09:10] <wariskampar> how do i reset FF3 to default
[09:10] <whynot> LinLin/Just ask them.  let them know what your problem is.
[09:10] <joaopinto> apt-cacher-ng is just a special http proxy, which keeps the archives on a local cache dir
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Its handy having one box on the lan being the main apt 'cache'
[09:10] <joaopinto> fen`, yes, it is, apt-cacher, not apt-cache ;)
[09:10] <zosologist> is there a way to make other files launchable by just typing the name into the terminal like firefox?
[09:10] <wariskampar> I think perhaps I had messing with it config
[09:10] <ghostknife> joaopinto: thanks
[09:10] <wariskampar> but don't know for sure
[09:10] <blueeagle> When attempting to boot the server-install of ibex I get the following error: "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae" What does this mean and how can I work around it?
[09:11] <fen`> wariskampar: sudo apt-get remove --purge firefox-3.0; rm -rf ~/.mozilla (THIS WILL ERASE your bookmarks/saved passwords etc)
[09:11] <Ruge> can Ubuntu 8.10 be installed from a folder on my XP desktop, directly to a partitioned HDD?
[09:11] <slowlearner> blueeagle sounds like an atenean
[09:12] <pickett> is the new vmware for linux any good for games yet
[09:12] <fen`> pickett: vmware 6.5 linux and up has 3d support, but its experimental.
[09:12] <pickett> i want to run xp on it
[09:12] <wariskampar> @fen, matter of fact, all my bookmark were gone!
[09:12] <whynot> Ruge/is it ISO image you have?
[09:12] <blueeagle> slowlearner: sounds like a what?
[09:13] <joaopinto> pickett, the directx support is still experimental
[09:13] <zosologist> is there a way to make other files launchable by just typing the name into the terminal like firefox?
[09:13] <Ruge> whynot: yep i have the ISO image, im extracting it to a folder on my desktop
[09:13] <ikonia> zosologist: make sure the applications are in a directory in your $PATH variable
[09:14] <fen`> ie don't expect every single new directx based title to work
[09:14] <whynot> ruge/why don't u burn it in a cd?
[09:14] <Bupsss> hi all
[09:14] <whynot> ruge/cd installation is much easier, I guess.
[09:14] <Ruge> whynot: my DVD drive is failing on my old laptop, and i have USB1, too slow
[09:14] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  i dont think ti will work that way.. You can make a bootable thumbdrive very easialy also..
[09:14] <co_eMo> shhhiittt
[09:15] <fen`> ruge, you can mount iso's with mount -o loop /mnt/iso /path/to/image.iso
[09:15] <co_eMo> hiiiii
[09:15] <ikonia> co_eMo: there is no need foer that language
[09:15] <joaopinto> ghostknife, please note that the apt-cacher-ng version on the repositories is old and buuggy
[09:15] <Bupsss> does anybody knows why i dont have the preview of raw images in nautilus? i had it in 7.10
[09:15] <jin> !raid
[09:15] <ghostknife> joaopinto: I'm proceeding to install it from source anyway, since the server is centos
[09:16] <joaopinto> ghostknife, ah ok :)
[09:16] <Ruge> ill give runnning this thing from XP a go
[09:16] <fen`> speaking of which i spent the last 2 hours setting up and configuring software raid 1 on 4 win2003 + exchange machines.. fun times </sarcasm>
[09:16] <ikonia> fen`: we don't need to hear about that
[09:17] <zosologist> Ikonia: im new to linux, not sure what your saying. more info would be helpfull
[09:17] <ikonia> zosologist: about what ?
[09:17] <zosologist> my $path variable
[09:17] <Dr_willis> zosologist,  you may want to spend an hr reading a few  bash/shell/command line tutorials then.. this is fairly basic stuff.
[09:17] <zosologist> alright
[09:17] <ikonia> zosologist: if you do echo $PATH you'll see a list of directorys, anything in those directories can be executed by just typing the command
[09:18] <ikonia> Dr_willis: darn it !
[09:18] <Dr_willis> zosologist,  'echo $PATH' to see your path setting. :) thats where it looks for command line commands.
[09:18] <Dr_willis> ikonia,  :)
[09:18] <Dr_willis> ikonia,  gee.. i was going to paste him a list of sites to read also
[09:19] <ghostknife> what did Lin-Lin want here? check this freek log: http://rafb.net/p/6Cob8922.html
[09:19] <ikonia> ghostknife: why are you pasting this in here ?
[09:20] <Dr_willis> He likes you ghostknife
[09:20] <blueeagle> Ok, so I need a generic kernel, but there is no generic kernel package on the alternate install cd. Yet there is a kernel that the cd itself boots from. Any chance I can trick that over to the installed system?
[09:21] <paul68> what is the best way to protect my server besides a good firewall against hackers? and plugging out the ethernet cable is not an option :-)
[09:21] <blueeagle> ...and if anyone knows why the installed kernel requires a cpu w/o pae I'd be glad if they shared.
[09:21] <blueeagle> paul68: Hello again.
[09:21] <ikonia> paul68 lock down users permissions, manage accounts, etc etc, obvious stuff
[09:21] <joaopinto> paul68, the best way is to learn, read a good linux tutorial, and then something more specialized about security
[09:21] <egor> oh damn no sound in xfce again
[09:21] <budgie> this is the only thing that is really stopping me now from moving to Ubuntu 100% :(
[09:22] <paul68> blueeagle: hi did you have a good holiday
[09:22] <paul68> joaopinto: there are quiet a few tutorials and to read them all I'll be busy for a few years I guess
[09:22] <Ruge> what the
[09:22] <Ruge> i just ran the CD
[09:22] <Ruge> i come back, and it quit on me!
[09:22] <ghostknife> joaopinto: apt-cacher is quite hard to find
[09:23] <joaopinto> paul68, not really, a few days of reading should be fine
[09:23] <paul68> joaopinto: do you have any usefull links
[09:24] <blueeagle> paul68: I moved. :)
[09:24] <joaopinto> ghostknife, http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt-cacher-ng/ , just grab the orig.tar.gz
[09:24] <joaopinto> paul68, help.ubuntu.com is a good start
[09:24] <blueeagle> paul68: ...and please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic to continue the ot-chat. :)
[09:25] <ghostknife> joaopinto: what's apt-cacher-ng compared to apt-cacher?
[09:25] <ghostknife> joaopinto: next gen?
[09:25] <joaopinto> ghostknife, yes, it's actively maintaned, it was recreated in C++, while the prior, is perl
[09:26] <ghostknife> :/
[09:26] <joaopinto> ghostknife, there is also apt-proxy, in python, but it is also buggy
[09:26] <mercutio22> I lost my system for two days already! I am trying to recover data from my lost partitions. I can' t mount my vista partition: http://www.pastebin.ca/1255998
[09:28] <rolland><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:28] <ikonia> rolland: what are ou doing ?
[09:28] <joaopinto> mercutio22, that partition is corrupted, it can't be mounted
[09:28] <simon1245> Is it possible to take the hard drive bak
[09:28] <simon1245> back*
[09:28] <jim_p> mercutio22: bad vista shutdown probably
[09:28] <ikonia> simon1245: back where ?
[09:28] <rolland> je me renseigne
[09:28] <ikonia> !fr > rolland
[09:29] <abortd> how do you open the properties of a file as root?
[09:29] <simon1245> My hard drive erased every thing and i want the things back i had on it is it possible?
[09:29] <rolland> y a des francais ?
[09:29] <blueeagle> Ok, so now I've booted the rescue system and I am attempting to load the driver for my wireless card, but it is looking for modules.dep in the "generic" kernel folder and all I have is the "server" folder.
[09:29] <ikonia> simon1245: your harddisk didn't do that - what did you do to erase the data
[09:29] <simon1245> I don't know i got problem with Ubuntu
[09:29] <ikonia> simon1245: what problem
[09:30] <simon1245> Wait i will restart the computer and tell you
[09:30] <simon1245> i'm online 1min'
[09:30] <mercutio22> joaopinto: forever? Is there something to be done?
[09:30] <simon1245> I have to leave after 10min
[09:30] <mercutio22> jim_p: ok, what to do?
[09:30] <jim_p> mercutio22: boot into vista and shutdown normally
[09:31] <simon1245> ikonia: Boot and select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key
[09:31] <joaopinto> mercutio22, you will need some file recovery tool, like testdisk, but don't keep much hope
[09:31] <savvas> mercutio22: is it an external usb drive?
[09:31] <ikonia> simon1245: then you do not have an OS installed on the disk your booting from
[09:31] <simon1245> I had
[09:31] <ikonia> simon1245: you don't now
[09:32] <simon1245> That erased i don't know how
[09:32] <ikonia> simon1245: then re-install it
[09:32] <mercutio22> joaopinto: I can' t boot into anything. Something is broken
[09:32] <djhash> what is a clean way to restart nautilus in terminal
[09:32] <Ruge> weird
[09:32] <simon1245> Ikonia: Is it possible to take every thing back i had before on it?
[09:32] <ikonia> simon1245: easier to re-install it
[09:32] <mercutio22> savvas: no. The external hd is where I am backaing up things from the gone partitions. I did recover ubuntu entirely already luckly
[09:33] <simon1245> But i had many things
[09:33] <simon1245> And i want it back
[09:33] <ikonia> simon1245: you can boot from the livecd, mount the disk and see if there is any data left
[09:33] <simon1245> Game... my dad had documents, movies and all that
[09:33] <Ruge> I put in the Ubuntu disc, and selected "Install Inside Windows" and then it extracted some files and quit itself, any hints?
[09:33] <simon1245> There isn't
[09:33] <ikonia> simon1245: then no
[09:33] <mercutio22> simon try testdisk
[09:33] <magnetron> Ruge→ it should reboot the pc
[09:33] <simon1245> How to try test disk?
[09:34] <Ruge> hmm
[09:34] <Ruge> it didnt
[09:34] <Ruge> like, i clicked it
[09:34] <mercutio22> simon1245: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[09:34] <Ruge> it came with a few "extracting" boxes
[09:34] <simon1245> Ok
[09:34] <Ruge> and then, back to the desktop
[09:34] <simon1245> I will do it later
[09:34] <simon1245> I have to leave to school now
[09:34] <mercutio22> simon1245: and then run it
[09:34] <simon1245> Bye all
[09:34] <mercutio22> bye
[09:34] <simon1245> Ok thanks :)
[09:34] <smalleyes> what command/suffix do i add to get mplayer to play a movie file in full screen mode?
[09:34] <simon1245> Ikonia and mercutio22 thanks :)
[09:34] <simon1245> Bye all
[09:35] <mercutio22> now back to my issue
[09:35] <Ruge> any ideas?
[09:35] <mercutio22> it seems /dev/sda3 is marked read-only
[09:37] <egor> wow
[09:37] <egor> impossible
[09:37] <egor> i've recovered all my data with r-studio after breaking win partitions and installing xp over it!!!
[09:37] <mercutio22> why is everybody disconnecting?
[09:38] <egor> dreams are coming true
[09:38] <Canuck> test
[09:41] <Ruge> yello?
[09:41] <ghostknife> Ruge: pong
[09:41] <Ruge> ping
[09:41] <nigraffle> bang?
[09:41] <Ruge> bong
[09:41] <nigraffle> :P
[09:41] <Ruge> anyways
[09:41] <Ruge> this installation is driving me nuts lol
[09:41] <nigraffle> What's up, Ruge?
[09:42] <Ruge> well, i tried to counter my failing DVD rom drive, by mounting the ubuntu disc on virual CD drive
[09:42] <Ruge> it loads up the installer
[09:42] <Ruge> i click on install within windows
[09:42] <Ruge> after a few "Extract" boxes, it quits itself!
[09:42] <KillGuta> I shared an folder, but it doesn't appear on the other PC (Windows Installation)
[09:43] <nigraffle> Try writing the disc image to a small partition
[09:43] <nigraffle> And boot off it
[09:43] <nigraffle> VCD doesn't like installing operating systems
[09:44] <Ruge> ive got 2 partitions on my drive: [C]: XP. [E]: free (for ubuntu)
[09:44] <Ruge> i can make another for the install?
[09:44] <ghostknife> VCD can't install O/S can it? doesn't it eventually have to boot into an installer anyway?
[09:44] <nigraffle> ghostknif is right
[09:44] <Ruge> oh right
[09:44] <nigraffle> I think your easiest option is to install Wubi
[09:44] <Dr_willis> Ruge,   You got stuff in the E: drive?
[09:44] <Ruge> oh yeah
[09:44] <nigraffle> full ubuntu installation, no CD
[09:44] <Ruge> Dr_Willis: i just cleaned my E
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  if its empty.. delete it and isntall linux in the unallocated spae.. the installer can auto partition Unallocated space
[09:46] <tedfflamp> omg
[09:46] <Ruge> sorry for sounding uber n00b here, how should i go about it? i cant actually get linux to install anywhere
[09:46] <tedfflamp> dreams are coming true
[09:46] <Ruge> i have the wubi file tho, its like.. 1 mb
[09:46] <tedfflamp> can't believe it
[09:46] <elkbuntu> tedfflamp, care to elaborate?
[09:47] <tedfflamp> recovering all my data from ntfs partiotions after breaking them and installing xp over seems to be.... eeergg....
[09:47] <tedfflamp> overminding x_X
[09:47] <Seveas> *hug* elkbuntu
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  boot live cd.. use the installer/gparted .. tell it to delete/use the empty partition..
[09:47] <nikki_> Is there any way to find out what processes are 'using' the internet at any given time?
[09:47] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  unless you are having some other deeper issues we are unaware of.
[09:47] <Ruge> Dr_Willis: im only thinking of ways to do this because my DVD drive is failing hard
[09:47] <ValentineXX> How to completely remove gwibber?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  you can make a bootable thumbdrive if you have one...
[09:48] <Ruge> im on a laptop that cant boot from USB :S
[09:48] <nikki_> I want to see what programs are 'using' the internet, so that I can close the ones I don't need and improve the bandwidth of the one's I care about.
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Ruge,  guess you  run it in virtualbox then.. or try the cd install...
[09:48] <Ruge> whats virtualbox?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> !virtualbox
[09:49] <Dr_willis> a virtualmachine like vmware.
[09:49] <nikki_> Is there any way to find out what processes are 'using' the internet at any given time?
[09:50] <ValentineXX> THERE is a folder in my home direct,, i want to delete that but it say i am not owner. root is owner.
[09:50] <nikki_> Is there any way to find out what processes are 'using' the internet at any given time?
[09:50] <ValentineXX> how can i delete that?
[09:50] <tedfflamp> kk
[09:50] <Dr_willis> ValentineXX,  use 'sudo rm whatever'
[09:50] <tedfflamp> login as root
[09:50] <tedfflamp> or sudo
[09:50] <nikki_> Or if you want to do it graphically, launch gksudo nautilus. This is dangerous though, make sure you know what you're doin'.
[09:51] <ValentineXX> :-s
[09:51] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn the shell.
[09:51] <nikki_> Yeah, shell ftw.
[09:51] <Dr_willis> usign the root filemanger might be HOW that file got made in the first place
[09:51] <lox> :P
[09:51] <nikki_> Dr_willis: Heh.
[09:51] <ValentineXX> Dr_willis: rm: cannot remove `webkitui': Is a directory
[09:52] <Dr_willis> ValentineXX,  this is where 'learning the shell' comes in handy. :)
[09:52] <tedfflamp> mmm... what is the difference between 'sudo' and 'gksudo'?
[09:52] <Ruge> ill give this stuff a go
[09:52] <KillGuta> The Windows OS can't see my shared files (on Ubuntu)
[09:52] <Dr_willis> use rmdir, or rm -rf  :)
[09:52] <Ruge> im on a PC, just installing on a laptop
[09:52] <ValentineXX> Dr_willis: what do u mean :-s
[09:53] <tedfflamp> 'sudo rmdir <dirname>'
[09:53] <Dr_willis> ValentineXX,  what do you mean what do i mean? you use the proper command line command to do the task...
[09:53] <Dr_willis> !shell
[09:53] <Dr_willis> !bash
[09:53]  * Dr_willis pokes the bot.
[09:53] <ValentineXX> Dr_willis: what are shells?
[09:53] <savvas> ValentineXX: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER directory/
[09:53]  * ValentineXX LOL
[09:53] <savvas> ValentineXX: then delete the folder normally
[09:54] <ValentineXX> savvas :D that worked
[09:54] <marcel> hi
[09:54] <marcel> can you help me?
[09:54] <savvas> shells are what turtles have as protection ;p
[09:54] <Dr_willis> ValentineXX,  time to really learn the command line basics..   the bot has some urls but hes gone it seems..     try     http://linuxcommand.org/
[09:55] <orly_owl> Attenion people: A require a guide to setting up Japanese input on a US English Ubuntu 7.04 system. Such a guide would be greatly appreciated.
[09:55] <marcel> how can I get pidgin im with gadu-gadu patch included?
[09:55] <savvas> ValentineXX: the reason they don't give you the whole command sudo rm is because it's dangerous
[09:55] <Dr_willis> I normally cheat and use 'mc' as root..
[09:55] <ValentineXX> sorry and how to remove a package?
[09:55] <ValentineXX> where those users have gone
[09:55] <nikki_> sudo apt-get purge <package>
[09:55] <savvas> ValentineXX: sudo apt-get purge package
[09:56] <Dr_willis> !apt-get | ValentineXX
[09:56] <savvas> darn, too late ;p
[09:56] <KillGuta> how do I edit a file?
[09:56] <Dr_willis> Heh .. wheres that bot
[09:56] <tedfflamp> 'sudo apt-get remove <package>'
[09:56] <tedfflamp> omg my fingers...
[09:56] <tedfflamp> )
[09:56] <marcel> lol
[09:56] <gwenn> hello everybody
[09:56] <ValentineXX> Dr_willis: bot angry with u
[09:56] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  with a text editor?  i like geany
[09:56] <nikki_> savvas: I am the almighty fast typist!
[09:56] <marcel> help me please O.o7
[09:56] <KillGuta> there was something like gksudo
[09:56] <nikki_> ubottu: Yeah yeah, you slow @$$!%
[09:56] <savvas> nikki_: you wish! i just don't want to wake up my family by quick-typing :P
[09:57] <KillGuta> I just want to edit a file with admin rights
[09:57] <nikki_> KillGuta: For launching gui programs with su rights.
[09:57] <wiwin> mlm
[09:57] <gwenn> how can I make awn manager permanent?
[09:57] <nikki_> KillGuta: sudo vim <file>
[09:57] <lox> KillGuta,  sudo nano file.txt?
[09:57] <marcel> who is from Poland?
[09:57] <nikki_> marcel: You?
[09:57] <lox> miss poland?
[09:58] <bmagoha> i would like to enable 3d desktop in ubuntu 8.04
[09:58] <bmagoha> any idea?
[09:58] <savvas> gwenn: add its command to run at login through menu System > preferences > sessions
[09:58] <nikki_> bmagoha: Nice!
[09:58] <KillGuta> argh there was an command to edit a file in the default text editor :(
[09:58] <KillGuta> gkedit or something like that
[09:58] <Dr_willis> bmagoha,  install compiz and the related parts..
[09:58] <nikki_> bmagoha: Run 'compiz --replace'.
[09:58] <gwenn> thanks
[09:58] <bmagoha> but compiz is installed
[09:58] <nikki_> KillGuta: YOu wan't gedit? Then its 'gksudo gedit'.
[09:58] <savvas> KillGuta: you mean: edit
[09:58] <lox> bmagoha, system > preferences > appearance
[09:58] <Dr_willis> bmagoha,  you do need th eproper 3d drivers installed...
[09:59] <nikki_> lox: May be he doesn't have gnome-panel running. :|
[09:59] <KillGuta> thanks nikki_!
[09:59] <marcel> ok, another question - who use Gadu-Gadu Pidgin's plugin?
[09:59] <nikki_> marcel: I use gtmess for MSN. :D
[09:59] <savvas> gobble-gobble :)
[09:59] <nikki_> Terminal FTW!
[09:59] <lox> uhhh ah yes!
[09:59] <egoflux_> anyone use virtualbox?
[09:59] <bmagoha> lox: appearence...
[09:59] <savvas> egoflux_: shoot
[10:00] <ValentineXX> I want to remove this dpkg - warning: while removing gwibber, directory `/usr/share/gwibber/ui' not empty so not removed.
[10:00] <nikki_> ValentineXX: 'cd /usr/share/gwibber/ui && ls'
[10:00] <marcel> uhhh so better i'll go
[10:00] <savvas> egoflux_: #virtualbox is a better channel for that by the way :)
[10:00] <marcel> cu
[10:00] <nikki_> su
[10:00] <egoflux_> savvas: i set it up to boot vista...but it says FATAl: no bootable medium found! system halted
[10:01] <nikki_> egoflux_: Go to #virtualbox.
[10:01] <nikki_> Ok guys, I'm off.
[10:01] <bmagoha> Dr_willis: do these drivers refer to a specific system or as long as u want to enable compiz?
[10:01] <ValentineXX> nikki_: it happened this valentine@Valentine:/usr/share/gwibber/ui$
[10:01] <nikki_> I have exams on the 22nd, wish me best of luck!
[10:01] <lox> bmagoha, sorry, dutch guy, in Mexico for 3 months, the English is lacking!
[10:01]  * ValentineXX nikki_ Good luck
[10:02] <savvas> egoflux_: maybe you haven't set it to boot from the correct virtual hard drive
[10:02]  * nikki_ has left #ubuntu
[10:02] <nikki_> Haha NOT! :P
[10:02]  * savvas still sees nikki_ ;p
[10:02] <nikki_> lol
[10:03] <KillGuta> how do I share a file so the other PC (Windows) recognizes it?
[10:03] <Ruge> hey is it possible
[10:03] <Dr_willis> bmagoha,  if you want the eye candy - you must have the proper 3d drivers for your video card installed.
[10:03] <Ruge> to boot from different HDD partitios
[10:03] <Ruge> partitions?
[10:03] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  i use samba to set up the users HOMES as shareed.. or set up a single share.. or use winscp on windows, and ssh on linux...
[10:03] <egoflux_> savvas: well i didn;t have one so i created it...
[10:03] <KillGuta> Dr_wills how do I config it in an GUI? :D
[10:03] <egoflux_> there's not really many options for that tho
[10:03] <bmagoha> Dr_willis: now how do i install them
[10:04] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  No idea.. in the time it takes a GUI to launch - i have the smb.conf edited...
[10:04] <Dr_willis> !nvidia | bmagoha
[10:04] <KillGuta> yours is working Dr_wills? could I have it? :D
[10:04] <bmagoha> Dr_willis: am using lenovo t61
[10:04] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  you uncomment 4 lines in the smb.conf file.. and edit the    name at the top.. and be sure to install the samba service
[10:04] <savvas> egoflux_: choose your virtual system, click on "Settings" and click "Advanced". change the boot order to be from the virtual hard disk
[10:05] <Dr_willis> bmagoha,  i know nothing of intel video cards.  sorry.
[10:05] <savvas> egoflux_: otherwise, you might need to reinstall vista again
[10:05] <AbortD> anyone know how i can setup a shortcut to a program and run it as root through the shortcut if possible?
[10:05] <Dr_willis> AbortD,  make the icon launch 'gksudo commandname'
[10:06] <AbortD> heh what icon
[10:06] <Dr_willis> time to learn how to use gnome I guess.. :)
[10:06] <Dr_willis> drag one from a menu to the desktop
[10:06] <Dr_willis> !training | AbortD
[10:07] <bmagoha> ubottu: am using lenovo. can the same drivers apply to it?
[10:07] <AbortD> thats 7.10....
[10:07] <Dr_willis> AbortD,  right click -> make new launcher.. seems VERY obvious
[10:07] <Dr_willis> AbortD,  so? its not changed much..
[10:07] <Ruge> Okay, my DVD drive fails, wont install, and i cant boot from USB with my laptop *sigh*
[10:08] <AbortD> yeah it would be obvious if i saw this make new launcher
[10:09] <Dr_willis> AbortD,  or drag/drop an icon from the menus to the desktop/panel and customize it
[10:09] <AbortD> yeah that would seem like a better idea
[10:09] <Dr_willis> That menu item is here for me under 8.10
[10:10] <AbortD> what are you right clicking?
[10:10] <Dr_willis> right click on the desktopp , create folder, create launcher, create new dodument,  .. other items
[10:11] <Tankado> I have partioned my disk badly at the installation and now i have / at around 80% full and another partition /myname which has around 20 free GB, is there anyway to re partition it without reinstalling ?
[10:12] <AbortD> heh heh
[10:12] <AbortD> my eyes skipped over it
[10:12] <Tankado> :[
[10:12] <jim_p> !bootchart
[10:12] <Tankado> thanks
[10:13] <erki> Tankado: You could probably move or link some folders to the new partition. I have my home folder on a different partition, for instance.
[10:13] <Tankado> yeah that could work, but i am kinda new how do i do that?
[10:14] <Tankado> all the updates install at the main folder thats why i am worried
[10:14] <Tankado> i made it too small
[10:14] <KillGuta> How do I share files for Windows XP? :( :( :(
[10:14] <AbortD> thanks for the help Dr_willis
[10:15] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  you could install the samba pacakges and use the 'share folder' feature of gnome.. or  set up the home shares..
[10:15] <erki> Tankado: Updates shouldn't add to much files, it usually just replaces stuff.
[10:16] <gwenn> ubuntu is just fantastic!!!!
[10:16] <erki> Tankado: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[10:16] <Dr_willis> KillGuta,  pastebinit  /etc/samba/smb.conf  ------------  >     http://pastebin.com/fbe87992
[10:19] <cilkay> KillGuta: You could also use ssh/scp to share files. WinSCP is a GUI client, if you need that. Look at http://dinamis.com/support/ for a tutorial. "Secure Replacement for ftp" IIRC (I wrote it a while back.)
[10:19] <saruji> hello
[10:19] <saruji> how is everybody doing?
[10:20] <saruji> anyone here?
[10:20] <mercutio22> bad
[10:20] <saruji> why bad
[10:20] <jin> my read speed from my hard drive is only 32MB/s isn't that a bit too slow for a HD?
[10:20] <saruji> is that directly from a hd?
[10:20] <saruji> huh
[10:20] <mercutio22> lost my hard drive to windows partitioner
[10:20] <saruji> yea thats pretty slow but it really depends on where the info is on the platter
[10:21] <Kartagis> what's another channel besides #mozilla for asking about thunderbird? #mozilla is +i
[10:21] <saruji> the speed varies so an average is the best test
[10:21] <wene> i need help because my ubuntu 810 is killing my boot
[10:21] <erki> wene: In what way_
[10:21] <erki> ?
[10:21] <saruji> um #thunderbird?
[10:21] <joaopinto> saruji, that's almost USB2.0 :P
[10:21] <saruji> what?
[10:22] <joaopinto> ops, was for jin , sorry
[10:22] <saruji> whatever mine flies as promised at 400 mb/s
[10:22] <wene> im using ubuntu without problem restarting without problem and suddenly without knowing, i cannot boot anymore on my ubuntu
[10:22] <saruji> ;)
[10:22] <joaopinto> wene, what error do you get when booting ?
[10:22] <wene> no boot system available
[10:23] <jin> saruji, 400mb/s =~ 50MB/s  :\
[10:23] <saruji> I have a question about my system, for some odd reason (and I think its bc I kept tweaking with stuff) whenever i reboot the system my network adapter reads as disconnected
[10:23] <jin> saruji, raptor drive?
[10:23] <saruji> me?
[10:23] <saruji> oh yes def
[10:23] <wene> im using refit under an imac alu and everything went fine until last night
[10:23] <wene> i have reinstalled and the problem came back
[10:23] <saruji> sorry jin I'm getting lost in the conversation
[10:24] <saruji> yes your right 400mb/s =~ 50MB/
[10:24] <jin> saruji, what hard drive?
[10:24] <saruji> I always get that crap mixed up
[10:24] <balrog> anybody know of a good dark & glossy theme?
[10:24] <saruji> I'm running on an old raptor
[10:24] <torgrim_> 122.73 MB/sec on a single SAS disk
[10:25] <saruji> hey guys any idea on why the network shows as disconnected after reboot?
[10:25] <Krym> Anybody familiar with lampp 1.6.8a with hardy, 8.04?
[10:25] <saruji> I then have to select ifupdown connection
[10:25] <mr_daniel> so kann ich Einstellugnen zur autmatischen Rchtschreiprüfung vornehmen?
[10:25] <saruji> which is eth2
[10:25] <wene> iim trying to install elilo with : elilo --root /dev/sda1 --autoconf -b /dev/sda3 ( my linux is on sda3 ) and it tells me : logical sector size is zero . filesystem is corrupt
[10:25] <mr_daniel> damit meine ich die Rechtschreibprüfung innerhalb des GNOME Desktops
[10:26] <DIFH-iceroot> Krym: why using lampp?
[10:26] <DIFH-iceroot> !de | mr_daniel
[10:26] <mr_daniel> sorry, wrong channel
[10:26] <Krym> I guess im just used to xampp
[10:26] <Krym> any alternative?
[10:27] <saruji> help on a disconnected network anyone/
[10:27] <saruji> ?
[10:27] <Krym> or a succesor?
[10:27] <DIFH-iceroot> Krym: dont use lampp or xampp, just use apache, mysql, php standalone
[10:27] <isky>  :)
[10:28] <isky> ÓÐÃ»ÓÐÖÐ¹úÈË°¡
[10:29] <jin> saruji, even if I buy one more drive and set it in raid 0, I can not get to the speed of your drive :(
[10:29] <jin> I think I'm gonna get a raptor then
[10:29] <saruji> I dont think a raid 0 would helps with a linux system
[10:30] <saruji> well wait
[10:30] <saruji> that depends
[10:30] <saruji> if you have a real raid card then yes it would
[10:30] <saruji> but if you have one of those nvidia raid thingies then no
[10:30] <jin> there is no difference between software raid and hradware raid really
[10:30] <saruji> there is on high end raid cards
[10:30] <torgrim_> jin: depends ;)
[10:31] <torgrim_> some "hardware" raid cards do most of the job in software anyway
[10:31] <saruji> but asus and gigabytes dont give you one in their chipsets
[10:31] <saruji> torgrim thats very true
[10:31] <torgrim_> but more expensive cards with real cpus and support for more disks are faster in therory ;)
[10:31] <jin> torgrim_, but that job is done by the cpu... will not affect the read/write speed
[10:31] <joaopinto> those are not real hardware raids :P
[10:31] <torgrim_> but then again, softwareraid on linux is very fast
[10:31] <saruji> but a SCSI setup with raid would be pretty sweet for loading times
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:32] <torgrim_> jin: tell that to promise or some other crapcard maker ;)
[10:32] <saruji> yea so with a budget and linux you really dont need raid, in fact it just causes problems
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> saruji: not the initial boot, loading scsi bios takes tiiime
[10:32] <saruji> true
[10:32] <saruji> true
[10:32] <torgrim_> today cpu power is cheap anyway
[10:32] <torgrim_> i never have a problem with cpu anymore ;)
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> hdd access is a big bottleneck in systems
[10:33] <torgrim_> back in the day when it took 2-5 hours to compile kernels, then it was a problem
[10:33] <torgrim_> hehe
[10:33] <torgrim_> today, i barly have the use for faster cpu
[10:33] <saruji> yea me either, running on an old opteron processor :) but I could just as well be on an alphaxp i mean athlonxp processor
[10:33] <saruji> ;)
[10:33] <torgrim_> oh amd
[10:33] <torgrim_> amd it not really a computer
[10:33] <torgrim_> its just a cheaper clone ;)
[10:33] <torgrim_> </flame off>
[10:33] <torgrim_> ;)
[10:33] <tbf> is that a know issue that dead keys don't work any more with intrepid?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> torgrim_: i love amd
[10:34] <saruji> true true
[10:34] <torgrim_> how can you love a cpubrand?
[10:34] <saruji> lol
[10:34] <torgrim_> when its slower also?
[10:34] <saruji> slower then what intel?
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> torgrim_: not slower at all
[10:34] <torgrim_> yes
[10:34] <jin> the raptor it is gonna be. thinking to get Western Digital Raptor WD740ADFD, 73GB
[10:34] <torgrim_> they are slower then intel ;)
[10:34] <saruji> oh you comparing intel to amd
[10:34] <saruji> lol
[10:34] <torgrim_> we can compare them to arms cpus if you prefer
[10:34] <saruji> nah thats a consumer fanboy conversation i'm peeps
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> torgrim_: depends which cpus you compare and for what tasks, but its offtopic
[10:34] <torgrim_> or alpha ;)
[10:35] <saruji> i'm out
[10:35] <torgrim_> or mips
[10:35] <torgrim_> or 8088 ;)
[10:35] <wene> is there someone that accepts to help me with a probem under ubuntu ?
[10:35] <Krym> torgrim loves his winking smilie
[10:35] <pdani> hi
[10:35] <torgrim_> Krym: jeh i do
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> jin: id get solid state for system drive, then raptors for data storage
[10:35] <torgrim_> Krym: its a bad habit
[10:35] <ikonia> wene what's up
[10:35] <Krym> ;)
[10:35] <Krym> :P
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> wene: wassup
[10:35] <chills> hey guys iam trying to set the time and its not working it says cant be set
[10:35] <chills> rc.freenode.net
[10:36] <saruji> torgrim_ you really think that intel has a better designed chip? say Athlong64 dual to an intel
[10:36] <chills> oops wait
[10:36] <torgrim_> saruji: no, i just say they are faster ;)
[10:36] <chills> it says /sbin/hwclock returned 256
[10:36] <ikonia> saruji can we take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:36] <pdani> i just installed xubuntu intrepid, and the prompt in mc is very weird: 0;pdani@pdani: ~pdani@pdani:~$
[10:36] <wene> my boot partition is not booting anymore and i dont know why
[10:36] <chills> any idea?
[10:36] <ikonia> wene what error is it
[10:36] <jin> ActionParsnip, a 73GB ssd drive cost alot :\
[10:36] <ikonia> chills what command are you using to set the clock ?
[10:36] <saruji> oh true, <ends topic>
[10:36] <dman777> in 'expand -t 2 textfile' what is meant by -t 2 tab stop?
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> chills: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5
[10:36] <chills> ikonia, using the interface
[10:37] <ikonia> chills what interface ?
[10:37] <chills> gnome
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> jin: you dont need massiveness for system drive, only data
[10:37] <ikonia> chills thats a desktop - explain how your setting the time please.
[10:37] <Krym> To the #ubuntu-offtopic channel1
[10:37] <chills> right clicking on the clock on my desktop -> adjust time and date
[10:37] <jin> ActionParsnip, I need dualboot.. so I need atleast 30GB for windows + Ubuntu
[10:37] <chills> and clicking set system time
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> jin: eww dual boot is nasty
[10:38] <ikonia> chills ok, so as I understanding (quick google on that error) it's setting your clock but not updating your bios/hardware clock
[10:38] <ikonia> is your desktop clock set tot he correct time ?
[10:38] <jin> ActionParsnip, any recommendation for ssd drives?
[10:38] <chills> ikonia, i set it to the right time but it goes back after a reboot i suspect
[10:38] <ikonia> jin please take it to the offtopic channel
[10:39] <jin> ActionParsnip, I know.. I have win xp in vmware on Ubuntu. runs fine.. but I still need to boot in Windows from time to time.
[10:39] <ikonia> chills because your hardware clock (bios) is off