[18:06] <stew> Travis-42: for instance, "date +%d" would give you day of month, see man date for others
[18:06] <GJ> kklimonda Thanks:)
[18:06] <kklimonda> humbolt, audio stack was always the least polished part of linux.
[18:06] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: yeah, was trying soundjuicer and it wasnt working then i did apt-cache search and found it, thanks
[18:06] <meglo> sebsebseb: Oh well. Fedora breaks easily.
[18:06] <bazhang> meglo, sebsebseb please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:07] <ishkur> hey all, when im trying to upgrade my sys, it says cant install 'ubuntu-desktop' please report this as a bug. what should i do next?
[18:07] <meglo> bazhang: It is over. Thanks for keeping an eye out.
[18:07] <sebsebseb> meglo: well then  I suggest sticking with Ubuntu and not complaining loads that you haven't  got Firefox 3.5  as an update
[18:07] <kklimonda> ishkur, report a bug on launchpad
[18:07] <Travis-42> stew: yea that helps, and I should be able to just put it between ` ` to insert it as a parameter. thanks!
[18:07] <DasEi1> ishkur: could you paste your sources.list ?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> bazhang: I am ending the discussion now :)
[18:07] <meglo> sebsebseb: Do as channel cops say, I'm not going to engage.
[18:07] <shaboo> I've edited /etc/interfaces because I want to change my IP but even after a reboot I get no change, any ideas?
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> SunOS solaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
[18:08] <kklimonda> meglo, sebsebseb  but 9.04 was also released with firefox 3.5 - just not as default.
[18:08] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: wrong file /etc/networking/interfaces
[18:08] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, ah thx
[18:08] <meglo> kklimonda: I understand that. I have patience, I can wait.
[18:08] <ishkur> if you tell me where to find it, sure
[18:08] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: and you don't have to reboot you can just do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:08] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know what program I can use to combine a WAV audio track with an AVI video?
[18:09] <kklimonda> meglo, i'm lost - for what? ;)
[18:09] <DasEi1> !who | ishkur
[18:09] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, what's the file interfaces in /etc for ?
[18:09] <DasEi1> ishkur: open a terminal ...
[18:09] <ishkur> daseil, done
[18:09] <DasEi1> ishkur: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:09] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: not sure but the one I edit is in networking
[18:09] <moltenbobcat> was there something in that file already?
[18:10] <DasEi1> ishkur: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:10] <meglo> kklimonda: For FF3.5 as a stable, branded, integrated package from official repos for 9.04. Unless I'm mistaken, and this will never happen?
[18:10] <attorianzo> there is a program I execute by shell. Is there any way to know its dependences?
[18:10] <kklimonda> meglo, it will never happen for 9.04
[18:10] <GJ> !tab
[18:10] <DasEi1> ishkur: copy the url from trml in here
[18:10] <GJ> Woops >_<
[18:10] <meglo> kklimonda: So FF3.5 will be finalized in universe, but stay unbranded?
[18:11] <meglo> Why do they even bother to have it in universe if not for an option that users have to upgrade? I'm not saying they need to remaster the ISOs, I'm talking post installatoin.
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, there are various reasons - the main are that having both 3.0 and 3.5 with the same icons would confuse users and it's explicitly forbidden in SRU policty to change UI
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, yes - it's already finalized if you use main mirror
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, because 3.5 still breaks things
[18:12] <mbkings> im new to ubuntu and trying to figure out wine so i can us office 07 for work could anyone help pls
[18:12] <meglo> kklimonda: 'firefox' can be symlinked to FF3.5 trivially, and all icons will launch FF3.5 and update .mozilla
[18:12] <kklimonda> meglo, for example none of extensions I have installed from repository works with 3.5 yet
[18:12] <Flannel> meglo: It was released with 3.0, 3.5 isn't "bugfix/security" updates.  3.5 exists for those who wish to use 3.5, but 3.0 is still the official.
[18:12] <ishkur> daseil http://pastebin.com/f12fc3b72
[18:12] <sebsebseb> meglo: kklimonda has a point there,  must add ons for the Firefox 2 series won't work with Firefox 3.5 yet
[18:12] <DasEi1> mbkings:did you try openoffice ?
[18:12] <DasEi1> did*
[18:12] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: Your aware that openoffice can open some MS office docs right?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> meglo: most not must above
[18:12] <meglo> sebsebseb: I use few updates directory from mozilla which are compatible.
[18:12] <kklimonda> meglo, also it would break working systems - imagine that you have 100s of computers with custom extensions and after a single update they are all broken
[18:12] <meglo> sebsebseb: that is not an issue for me
[18:12] <mbkings> yes but will it work in reverse also?
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, then you can install 3.5 by hand
[18:13] <DasEi1> mbkings: yes
[18:13] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: Yes whataver openoffice can open Im shure it can save as well.
[18:13] <CixCocuk> helloo
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, developers have to think about broader picture.
[18:13] <meglo> kklimonda: I don't ask for it to be marked as an update! I just wonder if it will be available in the official mirrors for users to install at their own will.
[18:13] <mbkings> well sweet then i will boot office 07 then to
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, it is - as a firefox-3.5 package
[18:14] <mbkings> thankyou for the help
[18:14] <DasEi1> mbkings: you can decide in which format oo stores, just for text I prefer abiword, as it loads faster
[18:14] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: welcome
[18:14] <meglo> kklimonda: Then I have no problem other than it needs to be compiled with official branding and the ubufox extension updated for it, maybe also marked as a beta dependency
[18:14] <kklimonda> meglo, it's was already updated to a final version - it just don't replace 3.0 in any scope and doesn't use official branding to avoid confusion.
[18:14] <meglo> I don't see why this is hard.
[18:14] <DasEi1> ishkur: your sources.list ?
[18:14] <meglo> kklimonda: I don't want it to be replacing anything. I just want it to be an option.
[18:14] <kklimonda> meglo, a) SRU policy explicitly forbid changes to packages that change user interface.
[18:14] <linuxguy2009> Now if only there were some video editing peeps here.ah
[18:15] <ARMENIAN> why do I have mp3 as a profile setting in sound juicer, but I can't choose it when trying to extract?
[18:15] <meglo> Windows users get all the latest FOSS software without having to worry about their base system. Haha.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> mbkings: hi most of Office 2003 works well under wine and I think Office 2007,  however ideally you should  use the alternatives first,  Open Office,  KOffice,  Abiword, and Gnumeric a spreadsheet app
[18:15] <ishkur> daseil: http://pastebin.com/f12fc3b72
[18:15] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: trying to extract what?
[18:15] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: an audio cd to mp3
[18:15] <sebsebseb> mbkings: and for email the default Evolution or Mozilla Thunderbird or some such :)
[18:15] <kklimonda> meglo, you can use a distribibution with rolling updates and have all the newest software
[18:15] <meglo> kklimonda: Base system doesn't matter to me. If that is the problem then why is it even in universe? There are thousands of packages that change the user interface.
[18:15] <DasEi1> !tab | ishkur
[18:15] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Oh you need Lame installed and bad and ugly and both in multiverse so you get all codecs.
[18:16] <mbkings> will do thanks sebsebseb
[18:16] <Hilikus> i'm getting this mail every day
[18:16] <makinon> ciao
[18:16] <Hilikus> etc/cron.daily/sysklogd:
[18:16] <Hilikus> Use of uninitialized value in numeric ge (>=) at /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles line 129
[18:16] <sebsebseb> meglo: Windows users blah de blah,   it depends on the Linux distro, if you just  get a later program version just like that or not
[18:16] <Hilikus> any ideas how to fix that?
[18:16] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: hmm i think i have bad and ugly installed and i tried sudo apt0get install lame and it said that it was mnually installed and up to date
[18:16] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I actually prefer to use sound juicer for CD to FLAC and then Sound Converter for FLAC to MP3, AAC etc. Sound Juicer requires you to know ungodly amounts of gstreamer coding.
[18:16] <meglo> sebsebseb: I don't understand what you're saying. Also what is with the 5 spacings between arbitrary words? Is your keyboard broken?
[18:17] <kklimonda> meglo, to change a package in a released ubuntu version you have to follow SRU procedure. this procedure states explicitly that you can't change an interface in any way.
[18:17] <sebsebseb> meglo: I already told  you about another distro, where you get most of the later Linux programs first, before Ubuntu
[18:17] <sebsebseb> meglo: and as defaults
[18:17] <meglo> We have a beta package that is finalized in FF3.5. I shall install that, but kklimonda says this SRU forbids them from applying official branding?
[18:17] <meglo> This sounds ridiculous.
[18:17] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: hmm it seems it does it itself though if u have all the codecs, im gonna see if I have ugly and bad installed
[18:17] <mbkings> thanks for the help cya laters
[18:17] <meglo> We have the ability to offer users a choice for FF3.5, but 'eh, just wait until late october'
[18:17] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: With sound converter theres no gstreamer coding stuff you just pick and choose format and bitrate.
[18:17] <evonise`emp> swoody, u there?
[18:18] <sebsebseb> meglo: http://www.distrowatch.com :)
[18:18] <pp7> can anyone get vdpau to work with mplayer in jaunty?
[18:18] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Yeah but umm good luck if you want to change the sound juicer bitrates for any format at all.
[18:18] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: isn't sound juicer the same thing?
[18:18] <DasEi1> ishkur: is there a reason for you having backports enabled ? in which circumstance you get your error ?
[18:18] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yeah, how'd it go?
[18:18] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Same thing as what?
[18:18] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: :P I don't need to change any bitrates, this cd was recorded from mp3s either way :P
[18:19] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Have you looked at how to change the MP3 bitrate in sound juicer yet? Its horrible.
[18:19] <linuxguy2009> oh ok
[18:19] <meglo> sebsebseb: Or I can just work with this to get what I want. I guess there is some silly rule that forbids official branding? Well screw official branding then. I already have firefox symlinked to FF3.5 rather than FF3, and just want the integration(ubufox, file associations).
[18:19] <meglo> I only see the globe when I go to Help -> About.
[18:19] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, Thx heaps that worked a treat
[18:19] <ishkur> DasEi1: backports? i get the error when ubuntu tries to update itself
[18:20] <meglo> Oh, and the 'Shiretoko' as the process name.
[18:20] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I know K3B lets you copy right off the disk to any format you want. Thats a cool feature.But all the other bells and whistles in K3B scare me.hehe
[18:20] <sebsebseb> meglo: it might also be to do with Mozilla why it's a globe your getting,  this stuff can be pretty difficult to explain, espesailly to someone that is moaning
[18:20] <jesaipa> hi all
[18:20] <shruggar> how do I properly, permanently, uninstall kvm? I tried it out months ago, and it didn't work. Now, every time I boot up, "kvm" and "kvm_intel" uselessly load, and I need to rmmod them manually in order to use VirtualBox
[18:20] <linuxguy2009> jesaipa: Hello how are you today?
[18:20] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: yeah I've actually tried k3b much more options than brasero
[18:20] <DasEi1> ishkur: you got several foreign sources, like backports of (!dapper) older ones in, that could be the problem; unless for a certain reason, on jaunty use standard for that
[18:20] <jesaipa> anybody know the usb<>serial module please ?
[18:21] <meglo> sebsebseb: I'm not moaning about anything, you can't effectively explain this absurdity except "lol go to distrowatch". What does it have to do with Mozilla? Nothing at all, except the package was compiled without official branding enabled. I understand this. It isn't difficult.
[18:21] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: no peroblem
[18:21] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what I'm looking for is simple, fast, interface audio cd to mp3
[18:21] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Im an idoit I meant to say KDE not K3B. duh im lamer
[18:21] <ishkur> DasEi1: so if i edit the backports out i should b ok?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> meglo: heh  maybe you should be happy your not running  Debian  which Ubuntu is based on,  because  then you get Iceweasel  instead of  Firefox,  because of some sort of disagreement between Debian and Ubuntu.  Iceweasel being based on Firefox
[18:22] <sebsebseb> meglo: of course you could  install  the  proper Firefox there directly from Mozilla,   you can talk further about this stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[18:22] <meglo> sebsebseb: And the same thing nearly happened with Ubuntu also until Canonical worked out a deal with Mozilla.
[18:22] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Well if you dont care about changing settings sound juicer will do it. Otherwise you have to go hunt the web for lines of gstreamer code to paste in.Sucks.
[18:22] <alan_> the Network Connections menu doesn't seem to support 64bit WEP encryption. Am I correct in this? If so, is it still possible to do so?
[18:22] <NemesisUK> does anyone know how I could block access to a website thru iptables or if not iptables another probgam
[18:22] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: :P
[18:22] <swoody> evonise`emp :  how'd it go?
[18:22] <DasEi1> ishkur: As you don't seem to know about their existance, backup old sources list, and use the one comin' in a moment
[18:22] <kklimonda> meglo, buy you just don't seem to understand a reasoning behind this decision - if you did you wouldn't call it an "absurd" decision
 I'm fine and you ?
[18:22] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: any clue what it defaults to?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: maybe we should take him to  off topic like the ops wanted
[18:22] <slayton> NemesisUK, you can add the url to /etc/hosts and redirect it to localhost
[18:22] <shruggar> NemesisUK, I would recommend a squid proxy
[18:23] <meglo> sebsebseb: This isn't off-topic and applies to Ubuntu. Official branding doesn't matter, just the Ubuntu-specific modifications that offer better integration. I wonder if that is offered by the universe package.
[18:23] <Flannel> meglo: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <NemesisUK> will that work if the machine is a router
[18:23] <DasEi1> ishkur: (in trml) sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.listBackup
[18:23] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, there should be an #ubuntu-advocacy channel for that ;)
[18:23] <meglo> kklimonda: Link me to the SRU.
[18:23] <Flannel> meglo: It is offtopic.  This channel is for support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for non-support ubuntu chatter.
[18:23] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Umm lets see here...audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux umm
[18:23] <meglo> kklimonda: A lot of the things in GNOME's HIG is absurd, and I call it as such.
[18:23] <slayton> NemesisUK, yes
[18:23] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: VBR quality 6?
[18:23] <slayton> NemesisUK, the /etc/hosts file is checked before a DNS query is sent out
[18:24] <kklimonda> meglo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:24] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: what were you trying to say?
[18:24] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: lol, what bitrate what that be?
[18:24] <meglo> Flannel: I'll just straight up stop talking. These fellows wont follow me to an alternate channel for a proper discussion. Telling people to go to #ubuntu-offtopic is basically a "stfu" move in practice.
[18:24] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, that offtopic isn't really a channel for this kind of discussions ino
[18:24] <Flannel> meglo: No, it's not.  It's a "please let people get support in here"
[18:24] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: See thats why I dont use sound juicer for anything but FLAC and then use sound converter to do all my encoding.
[18:24] <sebsebseb> meglo: wrong  I just joined  #ubuntu-offtopic after telling you to join
[18:24] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: and it's weird i have lame, bad, and ugly, and still don't get the option the profile is there and active but it doesnt show up when i want to choos ethe profiole for encoding
[18:24] <private_meta> heya... small question, I'm quite unsure about this one: Is it normal for the current ubuntu to start up to run level 2 only?
[18:25] <meglo> Flannel: Sure, but lets take discussion of #ubuntu-offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic shall we?
[18:25] <Flannel> meglo: I'd love to.
[18:25] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, and maybe we need another channel for all those "why does ubuntu do it this way" discussions
[18:25] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: have the bad multiverse and ugly multiverse as well?
[18:25] <Flannel> kklimonda: It's #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please go there now.
[18:25] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Restricted extras maybe too?
[18:25] <kklimonda> Flannel, sure
[18:25] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: that i might not have
[18:25] <ishkur> DasEi1: done
[18:25] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what's the multiverse anyway?
[18:25] <Flannel> meglo: Waiting on you.
[18:25] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: maybe, but really   it's not that good to talk bad about Ubuntu in it's offical channels,  even if only little things
[18:26] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Just stuff outside the normal repos I think. Or legal type stuff.
[18:26] <Flannel> sebsebseb: That's entirely incorrect.
[18:26] <NemesisUK> bizzare as Ive added them to the routers hosts file and it still getting the pages
[18:26] <ARMENIAN> hmm
[18:26] <meglo> Flannel: I said I'm just going to stop talking. This isn't worthwhile. But I'll put offtopic on autojoin because it looks like I'll be using it more often.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Flannel: well unless support or something,  or  what were you trying to say?
[18:26] <ottoshmidt> a little question: would sending shutdown signal when Totem is on break totem?
[18:26] <DasEi1> ishkur: it's really a wierd mixture you got there, you may consider backup other stuff from your sys too, lot's of dapper-sources in it
[18:26] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: so could u tell me what i would need to do exactly to get the profile to work i mean my bad ugly and lame are all up to date it says
[18:26] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I think either multiverse or universe are stuff they cant legally distribute on the distro releases.
[18:27] <Flannel> meglo: For the record, *everyone* you're discussing the mozilla thing with is in -offtopic now.  But if you insist on being difficult, that's your perogative.
[18:27] <kklimonda> ok, time for a real question - how suitable is server kernel for desktops?
[18:27] <DasEi1> !dapper | ishkur
[18:27] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Do you have the multiverse of each of those as well? Thats what you need.
[18:27] <Flannel> kklimonda: You generally want to use the -desktop kernel, because you'll benefit from PREEMPT
[18:27] <private_meta> !runlevel
[18:27] <private_meta> meh
[18:27] <kklimonda> I know what options are set differently in server kernel, I would like to know how they affect performance. for example preempt and config_hz
[18:28] <kklimonda> Flannel, I can't decide which is more important to me - PREEMPT and CONFIG_HZ or using whole 4GB of ram..
[18:28] <Flannel> kklimonda: Sometimes you'll notice the mouse lagging slightly due to the (lack of) preempt and stuff.
[18:28] <wolfgang> servus
[18:28] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: You need to have Lame, gstreamer bad, gstreamer bad multiverse, gstreamer ugly, gstreamer ugly multiverse. Lots of apps use those.
[18:28] <Flannel> kklimonda: Is 64bit not an option?
[18:29] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: well i just checked and the soources are enabled
[18:29] <kklimonda> Flannel, I've used it for some time and imo it just creates new sources of problems
[18:29]  * trident523 can't see his SD card reader in ubuntu, it just dosen't show up as anything when a card is inserted. What should I do?
[18:29] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: ok so go install em all.
[18:29] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: now just i need to know the name of the gstreamer multiverse ugly package
[18:30] <slayton> ARMENIAN, try using aptitude search
[18:30] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: just look for gstreamer bad or ugly the will be listed right by them cant miss em.
[18:30] <maria> hi?
[18:30] <DasEi1> ishkur : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211418/
[18:30] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  maria
[18:30] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: not sure let me see
[18:30] <rom1v> hi
[18:30] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, also a couple of packages from medibuntu as well ( medibuntu.org )
[18:31] <rom1v> I need help with apt-get / aptitude : I have a dependencies problem
[18:31] <rom1v> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2787178#p2787178
[18:31] <maria> Well... really This's a computer of my sister... I'm alexander.. Nice to meet all.. guys =)
[18:31] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: now i have it installed :P
[18:31] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: might want to get libdvdcss as well while your getting stuff. DVD playback.
[18:31] <over> can i install firefox 3.5 rc3 on ubuntu
[18:31] <maria> someone here understand spanish languaje?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  over
[18:31] <linuxguy2009> Hola!
[18:31] <trident523> !es | maria
[18:31] <maria> hola como estas ...
[18:31] <ortsvorsteher> !es | maria
[18:31] <akikan> but is it safe to use?
[18:32] <ishkur> DasEi1: so if i replace my sources list with that one i should be ok?
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: it's ok i just use vlc and i dont play many dvds mostly divx and xvid ;-)
[18:32] <harjot> maria: type /nick alexander to change ur name
[18:32] <slayton> rom1v, have you tried in #ubuntu-fr
[18:32] <slayton> !fr
[18:32] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:ah
[18:32] <Flannel> akikan: Yes.  It's currently an older version, but it'll be updated to final once the final package is finished testing
[18:32] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, also in addition to what linuxguy2009 suggests, the w32codecs
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: u the man :)
[18:32] <Faethin> Greetings
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: the ubuntu-restricted- did it
[18:32] <akikan> flannel: wil it earse my current 1? and will i get it as an ubuntu update wen the ful version is out?
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: thanks for the help :D
 hi you know a program for video?
[18:33] <Faethin> How can I remove the requirement to enter sudo for a specific command?
[18:33] <DasEi1> ishkur: I think so, though I'm not shure for every little typo, to compare, here is my working jaunty one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211422/
[18:33] <cousteau> when I try to boot from 2.6.28-13 grub makes an error 13, what can this be? I tried reinstalling the package
[18:33] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: yeah restricted extras are almost a necessity.
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> maria: what kind of video?
[18:33] <Flannel> akikan: It won't.  You'll have 3.0 and 3.5 both installed, and it'll automatically update.
[18:33] <sebsebseb> maria: VLC  banshee mplayer :)
[18:33] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, nice :)
[18:33] <akikan> ok thanks alot
[18:33] <ishkur> DasEi1: thanks for help will try that
[18:33] <slayton> Faethin, you can login as root.. or change the permissions of the program you're trying to run, but you really SHOULDNT do this
[18:33] <akikan> btw ban me im the guy from yesterday who was illegal
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: i mean i could play mp3s and stuff without it yet couldnt encode even though I had lame weird idk
[18:33] <Faethin> I need to be able to eject a media device without having to type sudo eject /media/<devicename>
[18:34] <MrKeuner> !firefox-3.5
[18:34] <Faethin> slayton: it'd be just for one command
[18:34] <Faethin> slayton: the command that ejects my iPod
[18:34] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: yeah you just have to have all the dependencies for all of that stuff to work right.
[18:34] <cousteau> is it possible that the module of the nvidia card is mesing up the kernel image?
[18:34] <slayton> Faethin, have you tried umount?
[18:34] <Faethin> I have
[18:35] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: You dont happen to know an app to join a WAV and AVI together in ubuntu do you?
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: see, I have to input the eject command on Amarok in order to properly unmount my iPod from my laptop
[18:35] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: u might like to give avidemux a try
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: umount doesn't work
[18:35] <slayton> Faethin, well everybody has execute privledges on eject, it has to do with the privledges on the device you're trying to eject
[18:35] <DasEi1> linuxguy2009:you just want to play them ?
[18:35] <slayton> Faethin, you're ipod isn't mounting with the proper permissions
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: how can I get around this then?
[18:36] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: yeah avidemux should do it
[18:36] <Faethin> slayton: Oh, and how do I fix this?
[18:36] <maria> no no.. it's for edite video.. ok i explain.. I used the Avidemux. But I can't understand one question this program not paste the subtitles and the video contunous... cuz the video are in Mp4 with codec h264 and when you try in paste the subtitles in this video and put in AVI have a prolems the audio appear first than the video .. So my question is if someone here can help how I can paste the subtitules in this video
[18:36] <linuxguy2009> DasEi1: No im starting to do screencast tutorials to help folks here.
[18:36] <slayton> Faethin, does the ipod show up on the desktop?  can you right click on it and select umount volume
[18:36] <Faethin> It does and I can
[18:36] <rom1v> slayton, yes, I tried…
[18:37] <Faethin> slayton: And it unmounts it with no problem at all
[18:37] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Thanks Ill have to give that app another go. i thought it was just for seperating them.
[18:37] <DasEi1> linuxguy2009:rigt i right, then
[18:37] <maria> and my other question is How I can put my 5.1 channels in this computer?
[18:37] <slayton> Faethin, then why can't you just do that?
[18:37]  * trident523 can't find his SD card reader that's hardwired into his system as anything in ubuntu. what am I doing wrong?
[18:37] <Emery> If i did, apt-get install kde, what version would i get ?
[18:37] <slayton> rom1v, can you paste bin the apt-get error?
[18:37] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: u press file - append and it should combine them
[18:37] <Faethin> slayton: because I'm neurotic and like to tie loose ends. :p
[18:37] <slayton> trident523, have you tried lsusb?
[18:37] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:Sweet ill give it a try. Ill let you know here in a min.
[18:37] <slayton> Faethin, have you tried in #amarok?
[18:38] <bazhang> Emery, for jaunty?
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: in all seriousness, because I'd like to merely plug, add music and unplug from a single context
[18:38] <trident523> slayton: not there, I think. There's some random items though.
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: I have
[18:38] <maria> The program AVI Demux are prolems with the paste of subtitles guys! xD heeh
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: so what u do is open ur first file with open and then go to file append for every file u want to add to the end of the one before it
[18:38] <Emery> bazhang, yes
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: People there aren't very helpful at all
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: ok :)
[18:38] <bazhang> Emery, kubuntu-desktop would deliver kde4
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <rom1v> slayton, http://pastebin.com/f279e3de4
[18:38] <FloodBot2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <Emery> bazhang, i don't want kde4 i want 3
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: and this sound juicer is crap, I press extract and ti just quits, i even tried help and it just quits, what a broken app
[18:39] <maria> what do you from all?
[18:39] <bazhang> !kde3 > Emery
[18:39] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:try using it for FLAC extraction and just use sound converter.It works great.
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <ARMENIAN> maria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNt6mEQ658s
[18:39] <FloodBot2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <maria> someone wanna help me please?
[18:39] <bazhang> harjot, dont paste here
[18:39] <slayton> Faethin, its not that they aren't helpful they probably don't know how to fix the problem
[18:39] <bazhang> whoops
[18:39] <hoban> hello all. Is there any official Upstart documentation? All I can find on the wiki links me to this article: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/125977
[18:39] <shruggar> When I hit a combination of keys, a window minimizes. Is there any way to say "just tell me who intercepts this keypress first" ?
[18:39] <slayton> trident523, try messing around with lsusb
[18:39] <Emery> bazhang, i must be able to install it from apt-get without downloading a cd
[18:39] <bazhang> harjot, dont paste here
[18:40] <harjot> accident
[18:40]  * harjot sighs at his ppc
[18:40] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Ah no luck with avidimux.
[18:40] <bazhang> Emery, not sure if a ppa exists for that or not
[18:40] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what happens?
[18:40] <linuxguy2009> append error
[18:40] <DasEi1> hoban : http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-9.04
[18:40] <Faethin> slayton: I don't say this lightly. I've had a bunch of questions and basically none of them have been answered at #amarok
[18:40] <maria> This is my first time in this IRC xD jeje
[18:40] <slayton> how long did you wait around for answers?
[18:41] <Faethin> slayton: I've gotten more help from #rhythmbox :p
[18:41] <linuxguy2009> Im using raw avi uncompressed till I get it all done so Im not losing quality each and every edit.
[18:41] <maria> Thanks armenian
[18:41] <slayton> Faethin, oh how I love irc
[18:41] <Emery> bazhang, i find it a bit odd that kde3 isn't included ..
[18:41] <Faethin> slayton: don't we all
[18:41] <hoban> DasEi1, that says nothing about Upstart, nor is it official documentation
[18:41] <ARMENIAN> maria: sure :)
[18:41] <rom1v> slayton, wait, I am posting the english version
[18:41] <bazhang> Emery, kde4 is the official as of now
[18:41] <maria> Yeah, i see.. But I can't put well the subs
[18:41] <maria> xD
[18:41] <hoban> DasEi1, but thanks anyway
[18:41] <ARMENIAN> maria: haven't tried that so let me know how it works out
[18:41] <DasEi1> hoban: got you in the wrong way, to a start up, upstart
[18:42] <rom1v> here is my apt-get problem : http://pastebin.com/f6346698c
[18:42] <Faethin> slayton: returning to my initial question, is there a way to remove the command from the sudo list?
[18:42] <maria> ok ok.. armenian .. YOu know other program for edit video?
[18:42] <hoban> DasEi1, ah, no. I was referring to Ubuntu SysV init replacement, Upstart
[18:42] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: What are you trying to do exactly?
[18:43] <slayton> Faethin, its not that the command is on a list... in order to execute the command it must be run able by either user, group, or everybody... eject is runable by anybody so you don't need to be root to run eject... ohwever the permissions on your ipod are screwy so only root can unmount it
[18:43] <rom1v> linuxguy2009, just using apt-get normally
[18:43] <DasEi1> hoban: understood, not to familiar with it, sry
[18:43] <slayton> !permissions | Faethin
[18:43] <rom1v> every time I apt-get something, I have this problem
[18:43] <Faethin> slayton: thanks :D I'll have a read.
[18:44] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: If apt-get fails then maybe you have a bad or corrupted sources list? Are you able to install from synaptic or add/remove?
[18:44] <maria> well My msn is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>If someone wanna help me with the video agree me
[18:44] <maria> jeje
[18:44] <rom1v> I am able to install even with apt-get (apt-get install vlc for example), but at the end it always try to reconfigure linux-image-2.6.28-13 and never manage to)
[18:44] <ARMENIAN> maria: there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(software) but it's probably not as advanced as avidemux
[18:44] <rom1v> and the system doesn't boot on this kernel (-13)
[18:45] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: Try clearing out your APT cache and try again?
[18:45] <maria> I used Kino Amenian and this program are not good
[18:45] <rom1v> (both with apt-get or aptitude)
[18:45] <rom1v> how?
[18:45] <slayton> rom1v, did you pastebin the english error?
[18:45] <ARMENIAN> maria: only other way u could do is probably ffmpeg but that's command line
[18:45] <marys7> oiiiiiiiiiii
[18:45] <rom1v> slayton : http://pastebin.com/f6346698c
[18:45] <ARMENIAN> maria: yeah there aren't too many for linux
[18:46] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what append error does it give u?
[18:46] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: Synaptic package manager.settings preferences. files tab, delete cached package files.
[18:46] <bazhang> maria, kdenlive also comes to mind along with avidemux
[18:46] <linuxguy2009> umm
[18:46] <slayton> rom1v, file a bug report
[18:46] <chris__> can anybody help me with getting Pandora to work with ubuntu
[18:46] <slayton> !flash | chris__,
[18:46] <rom1v> for package linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic on launchpad?
[18:47] <maria> Yeah! I used Kdenline and not are good hehe.. really i need a other program
[18:47] <maria> well see later armenian
[18:47] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Just says :Something failed while appending.
[18:47] <bazhang> maria, that is pretty much it at this point
[18:47] <maria> thank's for all
[18:47] <ARMENIAN> maria :)
[18:47] <slayton> rom1v, you're installing a kernel from launchpad?
[18:47] <maria> you have msn?
[18:47] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:Color of the video is inverse also.Strange
[18:47] <bazhang> maria, amsn, pidgin sure
[18:47] <rom1v> slayton : no, it's a standard upgrade from standard repositories
[18:47] <rom1v> in ubuntu
[18:47] <maria> yeah!
[18:48] <maria> Please you gime me you msn'
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, hmm... you should really file a bug report
[18:48] <rom1v> when you said "fill a bug", you mean bugs.launchpad.net?
[18:48] <linuxguy2009> rom1v: Clear your cache and try again?
[18:48] <GJ> Might not want to do that in public chat.
[18:48] <bazhang> oh misunderstood sorry
[18:48] <slayton> oh yes
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, "^
[18:48] <rom1v> linuxguy2009, for the moment I access only using shell on the computer
[18:48] <ARMENIAN> maria: u want my msn?
[18:48] <rom1v> so I can't launch synaptic
[18:48] <maria> yeah pliz<
[18:48] <rom1v> how can I clear the cache
[18:48] <linuxguy2009> Anyone want to help rom1v and say how to empty the apt cache from terminal?
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, https://launchpad.net/linux
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> maria: it's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:49] <maria> ok thank's
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> maria: what's urs ill add u
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> or if u want add me
[18:49] <maria> add me my msn is
[18:49] <maria><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:50] <sburwood> Anyone wanna help me open up my EEE PC 900?
[18:50] <maria> see latter
[18:50] <scott__> my access to the web is waaaaay too slow on ubuntu. I've got a brandnew 8.10 install with zero changes. IT IS NOT IPV6, TURNING IPV6 DOES NOT FIX IT
[18:50] <linuxguy2009> rom1v: Cant get to a desktop at all huh?
[18:50] <bazhang> scott__, lose the caps
[18:50] <slayton> rom1v, apt-get clean
[18:50] <sburwood> I undid the screws.  I don't want to force it and break it, but ...
[18:50] <lordnoid> hey does anyone know what's the best way to setup dual monitors with an ati hd4850? I tried it last night with just the catalyst control but that went wrong.
[18:50] <rom1v> ah it seems to be a bug
[18:50] <rom1v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/388923
[18:50] <slayton> sburwood, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is for ubuntu support only
[18:50] <sburwood> ok, sorry
[18:50] <bazhang> sburwood, #eeepc or ##hardware NOT here
[18:51] <scott__> bazhang, zip it. caps don't only mean yelling, they are sometimes used to emphasize a point.
[18:51] <b0red> why everytime when I restart Ubuntu, my network card gets a new name.. eth0 eth1..
[18:51] <bazhang> scott__, please be civil.
[18:53] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, hey, man figured it out it was dump on my side, it was the trash can applet that did not let me move files out but i was managed to get my files out of the trash via terminal under .trash. thank you for your time cheers
[18:53] <rom1v> and there are 44 duplicates !
[18:54] <scott__> i need to know if switching to a static IP will improve my web speeds. and i'll need someone to walk me thru it. please, only those that KNOW what they're talkin about
[18:54] <Titan8990> scott__, no, it will not effect web speed
[18:54] <chris__> even after i downloaded the flash plug in, when i try to run Pandora it says "We're sorry, but unless you agree to share registration information with %s, you will be unable to listen to %s
[18:55] <Titan8990> scott__, it will increase boot time since the boot proc does not need to wait on the DHCP server to respond
[18:55] <Gausian> scott_, are you wired or wireless?
[18:55] <scott__> i'm hard wired
[18:55] <scott__> 2 puters on one modem
[18:56] <Titan8990> i doubt its a modem
[18:56] <MrKeuner> will firefox-3.5 be replaced with jaunty's firefox 3 eventually?
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  MrKeuner
[18:56] <Dulak> MrKeuner: it will not be replaced but there is a firefox-3.5 package in universe you can install and use
[18:57] <bazhang> MrKeuner, two separate items
[18:57] <antii> Can I use Ubuntu 8.10 livecd for backing up my files on a EXT3 drive to a NTFS drive?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> antii: that didn't make proper sense
[18:57] <sebsebseb> antii: it did, weird I didn't read the word backing
[18:57] <Titan8990> antii, yes but its not needed
[18:57] <antii> sebsebseb: :P
[18:58] <antii> Titan8990: huh?
[18:58] <antii> What u suggest me to do..
[18:58] <Titan8990> antii, use the actual install
[18:58] <lordnoid> hi does anyone know what's the best way to setup dual monitors on ati hd4850? I tried aticonfig/catalyst but that didn't work out really well.
[18:58] <antii> Titan8990: but i wont install.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> antii: you can copy files from Ext3 to NTFS that's easy to do
[18:58] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I need help with Firestarter, its generating a massive amount of logs regarding broadcast msgs, I've already disabled the block broadcast msgs, but msgs keep on coming.
[18:58] <Titan8990> antii, then yes
[18:58] <scott__> ok router then, lets plz stop kibitzing over words and caps for the love of Pete! all i wanna do is get my speed back. since switching from windows xp to ubuntu, my speed is waaaay slower. clearly something is wrong, all i wanna do is fix it.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> antii: as long as Windows shut down the NTFS properly
[18:58] <antii> sebsebseb: didnt work in 7.04, just read only so trying 8.10 now
[18:59] <desiNerd> can someone help me on installing gmailfs on ubuntu 9.04?
[18:59] <sebsebseb> antii: yeah the proper  read and write NTFS support didn't come along untill 7.10
[18:59] <antii> :P!
[18:59]  * antii trashes his 7.04 cd
[18:59] <sebsebseb> antii: heh :)
[19:00] <antii> 4 min left! :)
[19:00] <Gausian> scott_, how big a of a speeed dif are we talking here?  a few MB/s?
[19:00] <SjoerdM> i messed up my ubuntu 9 installation is their a recovery option? (cant acces the gui anymore)
[19:00] <sebsebseb> antii: for what?
[19:00] <antii> sebsebseb: 8.10 cd :P
[19:01] <sebsebseb> antii: why 8.10 and not 9.04  by the way  9.04 isn't that great really,  8.10 :)   and then do another clean install once 9.10 is out so you can have full Ext4 support and by default :)
[19:01] <desiNerd> @sjoerdm ,,,then try recovering using text mode only
[19:01] <b0red> why everytime when I restart Ubuntu, my network card gets a new name.. eth0 eth1..
[19:01] <SjoerdM> desiNerd: how can i acces a text only mode?
[19:01] <antii> sebsebseb: cause i use a mac as my primary computer and need my movies and so from my ext3 drive to my htpc
[19:02] <sebsebseb> SjoerdM: you still got the Grub boot loader right?  ,but it's only on the screen for like 3 seconds?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> antii: oh right
[19:02] <scott__> gausian no we're talkin about my isp pumpin 850ish (upload) and from speedtest.com i'm only getting .002
[19:02] <Severity1> RAWR!
[19:02] <SjoerdM> sebsebseb: yes
[19:02] <desiNerd> @sjoerdm...login using single user mode...did you try thta.....what exactly is the problme...can you elaborate a bit
[19:02] <scott__> gausian i called my isp, all is well, i looked at the router and it confirms it
[19:02] <sebsebseb> SjoerdM: that can be changed in the menu.list file to longer, but I think you can just press esc on it, and then access recovery mode from it
[19:03] <antii> sebsebseb: so ntfs-3g is enabled by default? read write that is
[19:04] <sebsebseb> antii: yep  as of  7.10
[19:04] <yeldud> first time trying  xchat just want to see if it works; good afternon
[19:04] <antii> Niceee!
[19:04] <sebsebseb> yeldud: evening here
[19:04] <yeldud> yes it does
[19:04] <mcrawfor> firefox 3.5 - wtf?
[19:04] <ryan_> how do i move a directory?
[19:04] <mcrawfor> I installed the "firefox-3.5" package on jaunty
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  mcrawfor
[19:04] <mcrawfor> and I get Shiretoko still
[19:04] <OttifantSir> Does anyone have any idea why my audio de-syncs with the video when I record my desktop with gtk-recordmydesktop?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: yes the bot link will explain
[19:05] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  mcrawfor
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: or the bot message, or both
[19:05] <mcrawfor> sebsebseb: still, huh? wild
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: go on the link it's good :)
[19:05] <mcrawfor> I saw the update today, which drops the "rc" label
[19:05] <antii> sebsebseb: burning now :! D:
[19:05] <mcrawfor> but still beta apparently thanks
[19:05] <sebsebseb> antii: by the way good idea to md5sum your ISO
[19:05] <silidan1> is there an open source alternative to google earth ?
[19:05] <sebsebseb> antii: download check to make sure no problems with the ISO
[19:06] <antii> sebsebseb: always ^_^!
[19:06] <cousteau> !ext4
[19:06] <lightbricko> I'm recording my breathing during sleep using a microphone to check for sleep apnea. What recording and analyzing software is suitable for this? I'd like to see some kind of volume graph so I can easily see when my breathing changes.
[19:06] <geboy> can somebody tell me whats the big diff between the gui version and the server version of ubuntu?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> antii: you do it?
[19:06] <antii> sebsebseb: yarr
[19:06] <sebsebseb> antii: good
[19:06] <Slart> silidan1: no, not that I've heard of at least
[19:06] <desiNerd> silidan: why dont you tyr google earth itself...wahts the prob
[19:06] <geboy> coz i intended to run proxy server in ubuntu desktop
[19:06] <sebsebseb> silidan1: don't think so, but  there is Google Earth for Linux as well
[19:06] <adi__> _adi_
[19:06] <geboy> what would be the down side of it?
[19:06] <desiNerd> @lightbricko.....are you a nerd???
[19:06] <desiNerd> of what
[19:07] <yeldud> had problems getting google earth to work on linux
[19:07] <silidan1> you know the things about closed source: they may be free now... but what in the future?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: well first of all do you want to run some sort of server?
[19:07] <adi__> re
[19:07] <lightbricko> desiNerd: What do you mean?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: and if so what kind of server exactly?
[19:07] <desiNerd> what was the problem installing google earth on linux
[19:07] <Slart> lightbricko: there is audacity for sound editing.. not sure how well it works for this though
[19:07] <geboy> @sebsebseb: squid
[19:07] <darkhamm> hi people, i must copy a big folder to my ubuntu from windows, is the other pc of my home, how can i do that quickly?
[19:07] <silidan1> no there wasnt a problem
[19:07] <lightbricko> Slart: Thanks, I'll check it.
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: are you going to use the computer as just a server,   or as a server, but also desktop usage?
[19:08] <desiNerd> tickling the funny bone....btw you can try audacity ...its a good option though
[19:08] <darkhamm> i enebled the guest access on a shared folder on my ubuntu, how can i open it from windows?
[19:08] <geboy> @sebsebseb: just as a server, but i don't like looking at the command line x)
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: well  then  maybe you need to learn the command line a tiny bit
[19:09] <silidan1> darkhamm: this is a windows related question i guess
[19:09] <antii> sebsebseb: its fine
[19:09] <yeldud> down loaded from web; but seems to be no connection; do I need to use command line
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: ,but then you want the  Ubuntu  8.04.2  server version, yes the LTS
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: LTS is recommended for proper servers,  since  5 years of support
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: 3 for desktop LTS
[19:09] <sebsebseb> !lts |  geboy
[19:09] <geboy> @sebsebseb: ic
[19:10] <geboy> i'm usually using the server as the base of my squid
[19:10] <geboy> until recently i'm having some thought of trying using desktop
[19:10] <sebsebseb> geboy: you can run a server in the desktop version as well
[19:10] <geboy> sebsebseb: btw, it will run on vm tho
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: the server is going to run in a vm?
[19:11] <geboy> sebsebseb: yup
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: what's the host OS?
[19:11] <geboy> sebsebseb: xp
[19:11] <sebsebseb> oh dear
[19:11] <scunizi>  ouch
[19:11] <sebsebseb> no :(
[19:11] <nibbler__> hi. is it possible to display ctime in nautilus list mode? somehow this is missing in my view->visible columns :\
[19:11] <geboy> oh dear oh why?
[19:11] <geboy> tellme
[19:11] <geboy> :(
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: Windows as host = bad,  unless your a newbie to Linux and just going to do some testing of it, before  doing a proper partitioned install
[19:12] <geboy> and the downside?
[19:12] <antii> Unstable, unfree
[19:12] <antii> etc :)
[19:12] <sebsebseb> geboy: which virtual machine program?
[19:12] <geboy> vmware
[19:12] <dunks__> windows server is stable.
[19:12] <desiNerd> its better to try out things in vm before doing a partitioned install....
[19:13] <geofft> What's the term for the things which are Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.? "variant"? "flavor"? "edition"?
[19:13] <desiNerd> i thing vmware is the best option
[19:13] <sebsebseb> dunks__: are you trolling in here now?  :D
[19:13] <dunks__> No, are you?
[19:13] <antii> :D
[19:13] <nibbler__> dunks__: i dont know many windows server which dont have a scheduled nightly reboot...
[19:13] <SjoerdM_> sry internet connection was away
[19:13] <dunks__> Well then you must have a pretty poorly setup production enviroment nibbler__
[19:13] <sebsebseb> geboy: which vmware product? VMware server? workstation?
[19:13] <geboy> desiNerd: the thing is, this squid server is not taking much resources
[19:13] <desiNerd> they alll differ on the the desktop manager...
[19:13] <dunks__> You do have one yes?
[19:13] <geboy> workstation 6
[19:13] <desiNerd> ok
[19:13] <SjoerdM_> okay im in text mode, problem was that somehow it was complaning that my home directory was listed as home/sjoerd but didnt exist anymore now i navigated to my home directory and i see that the sjoerd dir is still there?
[19:14] <nibbler__> dunks__: simple setups at various costumers
[19:14] <desiNerd> ubuntu: gonme , kubuntu: kde xubuntu: xfce etc
[19:14] <Pickenzak> nibbler__: Hehe, Nibbleeer! :)
[19:14] <sebsebseb> geboy: well  Linux tends to win when it comes to the proper OS technical stuff,  hence why  most of the Internet is run by Linux distros :)  ,but  also why most super computers run it
[19:14] <dunks__> Maybe you should re-evaluate how they're setup then if you have schedueled nightly reboots
[19:14] <desiNerd> yes ,,,absolutely right
[19:14] <PapaChub> Does anybody know of an NFS server that supports "map_static" in /etc/exports?
[19:14] <dunks__> Anyway, this is offtopic
[19:14] <PapaChub> nfs-kernel-server complains about "unknown keyword" and unfsd just says "syntax error" :-(
[19:14] <desiNerd> k
[19:15] <geboy> sebsebseb: actually i have run this squid server for a year in its own box
[19:15] <sebsebseb> geboy: with Windows well,  you might think your secure enough, but  really your not  or  whatever.  yeah viruses  and so on.   Windows  XP is a lot more likely to crash than  Ubuntu as well
[19:15] <geboy> sebsebseb: and see that its a waste of resource, coz it only utilizes the pc below 50%
[19:16] <ryan_> how do i move a directory or redfine the file path?
[19:16] <nibbler__> dunks__: its mainly affecting terminal/citrix servers, its common practice... its not that the server crashes, its that printers stop working etc.... it happens on simple installations.... nightly reboot is ofc not needed nightly, but you never know when something gets stuck....
[19:16] <SjoerdM_> anyone?
[19:16] <nibbler__> but this is an ubuntu channel, so sorry for offtopic chat :)
[19:16] <nibbler__> anyone any idea about how to display ctime in nautilus?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> geboy: well do  what you want,  but   a lot of people  that  know computers pretty well woudn't recommend Windows as a host OS
[19:17] <Pickenzak> ls -l /home/Sjoerd
[19:17] <Pickenzak> Or ls -l /home/sjoerd
[19:17] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: it gives total 16
[19:17] <Pickenzak> then its there
[19:17] <geboy> sebsebseb:thanks alot, seb. now i need some kind of enlightment. i wanna try using squid  in ubuntu desktop. ad see the performance
[19:18] <geboy> afterall its only a home network
[19:18] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: whats the problem...
[19:18] <geboy> less then 10 pcs to serve
[19:18] <geboy> :D
[19:18] <sebsebseb> geboy: don't know since not used it
[19:18] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: i will reboot and type the message exactly
[19:18] <Pickenzak> ok
[19:18] <tvburger> Hey guys, someone Xdmx running? got segfault straightaway]
[19:19] <PapaChub> SjoerdM_, Are you sure user homedir is /home/sjoerd ? Try:  echo ~   and:  ls -l ~
[19:19] <geboy> hello?
[19:19] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, I keep experiencing fairly regular freezes on Firefox where it takes up 100% of my CPU and stops responding for a few seconds. This happens every minute or so. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[19:19] <cousteau> I upgraded from ext3 to ext4 and now I'm having problems with grub
[19:20] <cousteau> (just because I didn't read all those advices about ext4 and grub...)
[19:20] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: flash issue
[19:20] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: ask the firefox folks
[19:20] <Narusegawa> I've accidentally broken grub, and can't find how to reinstall it. find /boot/grub/stage1 inside grub can't find file
[19:20] <SjoerdM_> "your home directory is listed as:' /home/sjoerd' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to login in with the / (root) directory as your homedirecotory? It is unlikeliy anything will work unless you use a failsafe session
[19:20] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: thats the error
[19:20] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, I don't even have flash up right now
[19:20] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: bad permissions on it
[19:20] <Mr_Giraffe> otherwise npviewer.bin would be using the CPU, right?
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: any addon could be
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: any addon could b
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: what page ?
[19:21] <geboy> well then, i read that desktop and server having different kernel setup. whats the diffrent?
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, any page will cause it at any time
[19:21] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: which permissions should it have? i already tried chmod 644
[19:21] <sebsebseb> geboy: ah yes   the server version is meant to have a kernel version which is better for servers
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> it happens once a minute, freezes for about 2-3 seconds, then stops
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> and everything is back to normal
[19:22] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: drwx------
[19:23] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: what dist, or windows ?
[19:23] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:24] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, 8.10
[19:24] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: is that chmod 777 ?
[19:24] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: 9.latest is much cooler
[19:24] <SjoerdM_> uh 755 sry
[19:24] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: upgrade
[19:24] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, I use this laptop for work, I don't have time to just upgrade
[19:25] <cjae> I need to bulk rename files and compare doubles any suggestions
[19:25] <Mr_Giraffe> and frankly I've heard enough about bugs from 9.x that I'm going to hold off on that
[19:25] <cjae> I see meld, but I am mainly in in kde environment
[19:25] <mohammed510> hi every body
[19:25] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: i think so, yes
[19:25] <PapaChub> cjae,   /bin/ls *.old | while read i; do mv -i "$i" "`echo $i | sed -e 's/new/old/'`"; done
[19:26] <Jeruvy> cjae: sed and awk are your friends :) ^^
[19:26] <desiNerd> awk....
[19:26] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: its '0755'
[19:26] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:26] <bruenig> Pickenzak: don't parse the otuput of ls
[19:26] <mohammed510> I couldn't understand the difference between the 4 types of repositroies in the ubuntu diestribution (( main ... restrictions ... universe ... multiverse))
[19:27] <mohammed510> Can any one  help me ??
[19:27] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: ty just editted it but it still gives the error...
[19:27] <bruenig> Pickenzak: for i in *.old; do mv -i "$i" "$(echo $i | sed 's/new/old')"; done
[19:27] <bruenig> so so much better
[19:27] <desiNerd> @moham...yeh whats the prob
[19:27] <PapaChub> bruenig, That fails on files with spaces
[19:27] <bruenig> PapaChub: it certainly does not
[19:27] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: could be that the files .bashrc and so on doesnt have the right permissions
[19:27] <bruenig> PapaChub: *.old is bash globbing, bash internall knows how to field separate its own globs
[19:27] <bruenig> internally*
[19:28] <desiNerd> very oftion......
[19:28] <bruenig> it is when you pipe external apps into bash that the separation messes up
[19:28] <bruenig> hence why you don't mess with ls
[19:28] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: could be, dont know it
[19:28] <mohammed510> Any one can help ?? I couldn't understand the difference between the 4 types of repositroies in the ubuntu diestribution (( main ... restrictions ... universe ... multiverse))
[19:28] <SjoerdM_> :(
[19:28] <Pickenzak> sjoerd__: ls -la | grep bash
[19:28] <dsdeiz> text based twitter client anyone? :D
[19:28] <PapaChub> bruenig, That's why to use "while read i" instead; each file is on its own line
[19:29] <dsdeiz> that is, aside from using curl
[19:29] <Pickenzak> -rw-r--r--+  1 MyUser MyUser     124 29 feb  2008 .bashrc
[19:29] <bruenig> PapaChub: *.old is just better, it doesn't require external apps nor the while read hackaround
[19:29] <CloudCarrier> mohammed510: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:29] <bruenig> just saying
[19:29] <bruenig> do what you want
[19:29] <desiNerd> @mohammed510.....it depends on the type of tooll.....everything cannt be put under a single repo
[19:29] <Tomi-871> Hi all! Yesterday I installed a 9.04 on a HP Pavilion zv5000 and had problems with the wireless driver (broadcom b43). It wasnt shown in the drivers list. I downloaded one through wired connection (i havent this option right now, typing from another computer). Now I have the b43 driver installed and activated and i have also a "software modem" in that list (cant activate it.) BUT I still cant connect to any wireless networ
[19:30] <SjoerdM_> -rw------ 1 root root 1110 Jul 6 20:25 .bash_history and -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 227 Dec 23 2008 .bashrc
[19:30] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: is that okay?
[19:30] <desiNerd> @tomi -- what are the probs your are facing
[19:30] <desiNerd> at what step your are getting stuck...when u t r trying to connect to the network
[19:31] <desiNerd> seem so
[19:31] <PapaChub> bruenig, On recent distros, perhaps...  I've been burned WAY too many times in the past by "#!/bin/sh" Bourne-shell scripts, I suppose
[19:31] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: No, i dont think so... what caused it ?
[19:31] <desiNerd> for what
[19:31] <mohammed510> CloudCarrier: Restricted - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license
[19:31] <Pickenzak> -rw-r--r--+
[19:31] <Tomi-871> desinerd: even if I have the b43 driver installed I cant connect to wireless network
[19:31] <desiNerd> have you configureed things properly
[19:32] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_. where you on irc too long to get craxxored ?
[19:32] <desiNerd> in your b43 driver
[19:32] <mohammed510> CloudCarrier: Does this means that it is not completely free of charge? or does it mean that it is not completely open source??
[19:32] <Tomi-871> yes, the computer cant find any network
[19:32] <bruenig> PapaChub: well, I am only talking about bash, I am not sure if this works for sh. Nonetheless, this has been standard bash behavior for a good 5-6 years at least
[19:32] <PapaChub> bruenig, Which is why I also explicitly type "/bin/ls" to ensure I don't get any fancy "-F" or color codes, etc.
[19:32] <desiNerd> @mohammed ...its the 2nd one...not completely open source
[19:32] <DarkMind> can any one help with grub ?
[19:32] <Tomi-871> after install i have to configure it? oops.
[19:32] <SjoerdM> Pickenzak: internet connection lost...
[19:33] <desiNerd> @darkmind,,,,whats the prob....dont ask to ask..jsut ask
[19:33] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM: righty
[19:33] <SjoerdM> Pickenzak: any ideas how to fix it?
[19:33] <DarkMind> i installed kubuntu after f11 and win7
[19:33] <DarkMind> and now i can boot only ubuntu and win7
[19:33] <DarkMind> and no entry for f11
[19:33] <mohammed510> desiNerd: Is this like the packages for mp3 ??
[19:33] <desiNerd> @tomi...yes ....you have to make sure all your network parameters are set properly...then only you can connet to the network..else not
[19:33] <DarkMind> i want to boot it has my imp data and backups
[19:34] <desiNerd> @mohammed...yeh...some decoders are not free. so you have to get the non-free extras
[19:34] <desiNerd> @darkmind...u r not clear
[19:35] <Tomi-871> desinerd: r u talking about configuring the network connection or configuring the driver? as i cant see any network the first one - if i understand u well - is not possible i think
[19:35] <brailsmt> I need both libldb and libmapi to compile the latest evolution, but using apt-get to install one, removes the other...  is there a way I can install both?
[19:35] <mohammed510> desiNerd : Now , I can understand , but I want to know why it can't be free as the most other packages in the cd , Specially the mp3 decoders?
[19:35] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:35] <Bluefalcon09> hello
[19:35] <DarkMind> look i got f11 and win7 installed on my lappy having 2hds 250 gb each okie .. now i installed ubuntu based bt4 os and after instalation i cannot boot any more f11 !!!
[19:35] <Paddy_NI> brailsmt: is there a ppa for the latest evolution?
[19:36] <proq> can someone point me to an alternative to lpr for printing a pdf from command-line?  lpr will print text documents, but it won't print any PDFs here
[19:36] <brailsmt> Paddy_NI: i have no idea...
[19:36] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM: chmod 640 /home/.bashrc      (or 644, not sure)
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> I also think you may need a more recent gnome in order for that to work
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> brailsmt: ^
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> so that would be a bit of a difficult undertaking
[19:37] <brailsmt> i've been compiling the thing from scratch, but it doesn't like compiling evolution-mapi
[19:37] <Pickenzak> Paddy_NI: You mean a 'TTA'
[19:37] <Pickenzak> Time to arrival
[19:37] <Paddy_NI> !ppa
[19:37] <PapaChub> bruenig, Ahh, the reason I've become accustomed to "/bin/ls | while read i;..." is when using find(1).  "find . -name '*.old' | while read i" works better than "for i in `find . -name '*.old'`"
[19:37] <DarkMind> i have no entry in boot for my f11 after installation of ubuntu .. how can i boot it now it has my all data !
[19:37] <Pickenzak> LOL!
[19:37] <PapaChub> You're right that for simple cases, "for i in *" does suffice.
[19:38] <Pickenzak> NewKidsOnTehBl0xx0r we see
[19:38] <joe_> hey i am new to Ubuntu how do i change my username and password at login
[19:38] <satya2881988> friends
[19:39] <yeldud> change user name a edit; Preferences
[19:39] <desiNerd> @satya....what friends....???
[19:39] <kerimbasol> joe: you will write at terminal passwd
[19:39] <DarkMind> @desiNerd i have no entry in boot for my f11 after installation of ubuntu .. how can i boot it now it has my all data !
[19:39] <gizmobay> Does anyone know where this screensaver or blanker image is coming from http://imagebin.org/54608?
[19:39] <Pickenzak> satya2881988: FRIEND Omg teh.Starrz!
[19:40] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:40] <desiNerd> @darkmind....do you have the ubuntu live cd..use that for repairing ....
[19:40] <_ibrahim_> hi
[19:40] <DarkMind> reparing of what ?
[19:40] <desiNerd> your installation
[19:40] <DarkMind> ubuntu is workin
[19:40] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one\
[19:40] <_ibrahim_> anyone german here? i've got troubles with firefox 3.5
[19:40] <DarkMind> f11 isnt !! which has my data
[19:40] <joe_> yeldud: thank you i will see if that works
[19:40] <djiezes> !de > _ibrahim_
[19:41] <_ibrahim_> thx
[19:41] <desiNerd> @dark...then login to your ubuntu , then just mount your fedora11 partitions and pull out the data or whatever your want
[19:41] <DarkMind> i m right now on ubuntu
[19:42] <desiNerd> thats it...all right
[19:42] <DarkMind> but i cannot see any data because of LVM2 format
[19:42] <DarkMind> it gives error !
[19:42] <desiNerd> run this: sudo fdisk -l
[19:42] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:42] <Bluefalcon09> hey i started a channel named #BRAN if anybody wants to join they can
[19:42] <desiNerd> are you able to see your fedora partitions ... are then ext3???
[19:43] <DarkMind> desiNerd: no they are linux LVM
[19:43] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : /dev/sda2              26       30401   243991201   8e  Linux LVM
[19:43] <desiNerd> whats the outut of fdisk -l
[19:43] <DarkMind> here it is
[19:43] <desiNerd> lvm is the volume manager
[19:43] <desiNerd> just this one only....
[19:43] <DarkMind> no
[19:43] <DarkMind> wait
[19:43] <DarkMind> lemme copy all
[19:43] <desiNerd> get the full lone...
[19:43] <desiNerd> ok
[19:44] <DarkMind> should i copy
[19:44] <DarkMind> ?
[19:44] <DarkMind> here
[19:44] <DarkMind> paste here
[19:44] <DarkMind> i mean
[19:44] <FloodBot2> DarkMind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <desiNerd> wit
[19:44] <desiNerd> wait
[19:44] <desiNerd> use pastebin
[19:44] <desiNerd> as told by flood
[19:44] <desiNerd> and put the link here
[19:44] <DarkMind> okie am pasting there with my nick
[19:44] <desiNerd> fine
[19:44] <desiNerd> get me the link
[19:45] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:45] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211464/
[19:45] <DarkMind> here
[19:45] <amoignes> p
[19:45] <desiNerd> k wait a min
[19:45] <Fzang_> Hi, I just switched from kde to gnome and now it closes kdm, so im left with a blank screen. How do I get back to GUI?
[19:46] <desiNerd> @fzang_ alt+ctrl+bakc will restart desktop manager
[19:46] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot
[19:46] <MrKeuner> satya2881988, http://www.google.com/search?q=changing%20fsck%20frequency&hl=en
[19:46] <tonii> why would you want to do that?
[19:47] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : saw it ?
[19:47] <adi__> desiNerd, don't works. first must edit xorg.conf
[19:47] <desiNerd> @darkmind...you have two disks..right??and i think currently your are using the second one..sdb, right? then
[19:47] <Fzang> desiNerd: Nothing happens :s
[19:47] <DarkMind> yess
[19:47] <MrKeuner> satya2881988, you can also hit esc
[19:47] <DarkMind> yess
[19:47] <DarkMind> i installed ubuntu in sdb second disk
[19:47] <DarkMind> am on partions with } sign
[19:47] <DarkMind> * sign !!
[19:48] <erUSUL> !enter | DarkMind desiNerd
[19:48] <desiNerd> k then run this...so you just have to mount the first disk...where your f11 sits, right?
[19:48] <DarkMind> run what
[19:48] <DarkMind> ?
[19:49] <SjoerdM___> pff still not working :( "your home directory is listed as:' /home/sjoerd' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to login in with the / (root) directory as your homedirecotory? It is unlikeliy anything will work unless you use a failsafe session" pff anyone else a solution?
[19:49] <MidnightDevil> hi
[19:49] <desiNerd> now tell me, what partition you want to pull data from, full sda or a part of it?
[19:49] <MidnightDevil> how can i install dr17 on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[19:50] <Titan8990> sjoerd__, create a homedir for the user? Use adduser to add new users insted of useradd?
[19:50] <DarkMind> i want to pull data from sda 2 which has LVM manager !! its f11 and has data and backup
[19:50] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: problem is that the dir exists...
[19:51] <SjoerdM___> DarkMind, i tried sharing the directory and think someting went wrong
[19:51] <Titan8990> SjoerdM, there is a space in that error
[19:51] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[19:51] <Titan8990> SjoerdM, looks like it thinks your homedir is:   \ /home/sjoerd
[19:51] <MidnightDevil> ty coz_ :)
[19:51] <DarkMind> /dev/sda1 is boot !  /dev/sda2  is f11 so it has all data !
[19:51] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  there is a beta e17 with compiz installed
[19:51] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: how can i check this? i typed th error so maybe i made a typo
[19:52] <desiNerd> k now create a directory with a name say recover in your home directory, and mount the partition sda2 using the following command: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/<yournamae>/recover
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> awesome :D
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> is on that site?
[19:52] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  let me find that hold on
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> okay :)
[19:52] <SjoerdM___> DarkMind: shall i check it first ;)
[19:52] <meglo> Ubuntu-Desktop livecd with Ubiquity installer: In 9.04 is it at all possible to use ecryptfs for /home? I didn't see it when I tried to install, but I hear about boot parameters to enable the feature before booting the livecd.
[19:52] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, grep -i sjoerd /etc/passwd
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> i've been a fan of enlightenment since i remember... it would be awesome with compiz in it
[19:52] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : okie lemme do it !
[19:52] <anghel> hello
[19:52] <scott_ino2> anyone with mobility radeon HD 3400 and proprietary ati drivers have working suspend?
[19:52] <anghel> how can i make to work pidgin ??
[19:52] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  its called ELive  but it is a complete distribution so you can download and burn the ELive live cd and test it
[19:53] <SjoerdM___> ... :/home/sjoerd:/bin/bash
[19:53] <desiNerd> and then  cd to that directory.....and now its like any other current partition...do whatever you want
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> hum i tried elive a while ago, its kinda buggy tho
[19:53] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  I believe it is based on ubuntu though
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> i'll give it a go :)
[19:53] <evonise`emp> i've asked questions today before about my problem on installing ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1310 laptop. the problem is that it keeps freezing while installing. i tried a drive fitness test, the ubuntu memtest, the cd check, the alternate install cd, but my problem stays there. what can i do?
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> tks a lot coz_
[19:53] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  no problem   I have already tested ELIve  it looks promising :)
[19:53] <scott_ino2> or anyone who can help me diagnose or know tricks on getting ati and suspend to work
[19:54] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : mount: mount point /home/hasan/recover does not exist
[19:54] <desiNerd> @dark...done ? or still facing problems
[19:55] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : mount: mount point /home/hasan/recover does not exist
[19:55] <desiNerd> @i told you to create a directory with that name...a blank dirctory...run this in your home directory...mkdir recover
[19:55] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: ... :/home/sjoerd:/bin/bash looks okay?
[19:55] <DarkMind> okie
[19:56] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, yep, looks good
[19:56] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: whats the next step i could try?
[19:56] <coz_> scott_ino2, look here  maybe there is something explained there  they do talk about ati and suspend on that page  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Suspend.2FHibernation
[19:56] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, what were you trying to do in the first place?
[19:56] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : root@smoke:/home/dark# sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/dark/recover
[19:56] <DarkMind> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:56] <SjoerdM___> i was setting up a webserver for home use, and tried sharing my home directory and a couple of other directories, everything looked fine till i did a reboot
[19:56] <deany> Upgraded virtualbox and the network device has changed, so ubuntu (server) is saying it no longer exists, how do I get it working again?
[19:57] <scott_ino2> coz_, ty
[19:57] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: so that could be the problem
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, shard how?
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, webdav?
[19:57] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: what do you mean?
[19:57] <sandy_> with winamp, a playlist/library is only updated on request....with banshee and rythmbox it seems to need an update each reboot which takes time....is there a simpler program?
[19:57] <hqrsie> I'm trying to install 9.04 on an old Toshiba laptop (xp era centrino).  I select to boot from CD and have a working copy in the drive.  It spins for around 45 sec then boots back to XP without showing installation menu
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, when you say that you shared you home directory, what did you actually do?
[19:58] <Tomi-871> @desinerd the b43 again. did u mean i have to configure the network connection or something with the driver? Because I cant see any networks so the first one i cant do (if i understood u well)
[19:58] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: right click it, sharing options and set all to read write,
[19:58] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, oh, I don't know anything about samba or windows crap
[19:59] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: well me neither so i want to restore everything like it was
[19:59] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, try: chmod -R 644 /home/sjoerd
[19:59] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, there may be negative side-effects however
[20:00] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: okay rebootng now
[20:00] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM___: agreed, wont be a bad thing to do
[20:00] <akos_> Hi! The GNOME 2.26 release notes says that there is a new Volume Control app (http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/#rnusers.volume), however I can't find it (I'm using Jaunty).
[20:00] <th0r> Titan8990: directories have to be executable
[20:01] <cjae> PapaChub, Jeruvy sorry that seem a little over my head ;)
[20:01] <Pickenzak> akos_: add to the panel
[20:01] <Titan8990> th0r, to list contents it does, yes
[20:01] <th0r> Titan8990: to get into it I think it does
[20:01] <ronj> hello
[20:01] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: still get tehe same message
[20:01] <cjae> has anyone used kdiff?
[20:01] <Pickenzak> akos_: It could be Horizon-Tal :)
[20:01] <DarkMind> how can i mount LVM2 partion in ubuntu ??????
[20:01] <danbhfive> akos_: I don't know about that, but there is a PA volume control app that you can install
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, probably need install lvm
[20:02] <DarkMind> how i can i install it
[20:02] <DarkMind> ?
[20:02] <Rictoo> on dapper drake, what's the default dhcp client?
[20:02] <Rictoo> my bro is having network problems
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, i saw earlier, your trying to mount the physical partition
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you can't do that
[20:02] <DarkMind> yess and i failed
[20:02] <ronj> I'm looking for a way to know in which package an installed binary comes from, and can't get Google to answer me. anybody?
[20:02] <Pickenzak> padevcontrol
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you have to mount the logical parition: eg - /dev/vg/usr
[20:02] <DarkMind> it gives error root@smoke:/home/dark# sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/dark/recover
[20:02] <DarkMind> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[20:02] <ratkymarcell> re. Can anyone please help with the following:
[20:02] <ratkymarcell> hi! how can I "unmount" a special usb device, which seems to be at /dev/ttyUSB0, and cannot be unmounted, because it dont need to be mounted at all? It's a microcontroller programming unit, and I'd like to have acces to it via a virtualboxed XP. That's why [host] ubuntu has to release it...
[20:03] <Titan8990> thats because that a physical partition
[20:03] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you need to mount one of its volumes
[20:03] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : so now what u think i should do
[20:03] <DarkMind> ?
[20:03] <jadew> so... I used to compile stuff on my ubuntu 8.10 and run it on another machine (red-hat kernel 2.6.9), now I upgraded to 9.04 and I can't run my code anymore on that machine, I get FATAL: kernel too old wth is that?
[20:03] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: /dev/ttyUSB0 is a serial device/port like /dev/ttyS0
[20:03] <akos_> danbhfive, Pickenzak : thanks
[20:03] <danbhfive> ronj: there is a dpkg command, something like dpkg -S
[20:03] <Rictoo> what's the default dhcp client on Dapper Drake?
[20:03] <Titan8990> DarkMind, mount the volume you need to mount??
[20:03] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: if i click yes (login with /) i get the message User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permisions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users
[20:03] <Rictoo> or daemon*
[20:03] <Pickenzak> akos_: np
[20:04] <ratkymarcell> df
[20:04] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i tried but how can i mount that logical volume
[20:04] <DarkMind> ?
[20:04] <tonii> jadew: exactly what it tells you, the kernel is to old
[20:04] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: you do not "mount" it you access it with some special program or a generic serial client like minicom
[20:04] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, chown -R sjoerd:sjoerd /home/sjoerd
[20:04] <jadew> well, what's the problem what got changed, how can I fix that?
[20:04] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo mount /dev/vg/NAMEHERE /mnt/mountpoint
[20:04] <Titan8990> DarkMind, I don't know how you set up the volumes
[20:04] <EgyCoder09> hi all , can i know what is my ram type ( DDR1 , DDR2 ) from ubunto without any hardware solutions like see the ram ??
[20:05] <ratkymarcell> erUSUL, okay, but Ubuntu somohow holds it. So, the xp in virtualbox cannot acces this device.
[20:05] <tonii> jadew: I suppose you mean new binaries compiled under 9.04 can't be run on the redhat?
[20:05] <evonise`emp> i've asked questions today before about my problem on installing ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1310 laptop. the problem is that it keeps freezing while installing. i tried a drive fitness test, the ubuntu memtest, the cd check, the alternate install cd, but my problem stays there. what can i do?
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: i believe there's a way to dump your bios information
[20:05] <jadew> tonii: yeah
[20:05] <Titan8990> EgyCoder09, easiest to just look at the speed in the BIOS
[20:05] <jadew> they used to work when I compiled them on 8.10
[20:05] <Titan8990> EgyCoder09, lshw might tell though
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: dmidecode
[20:05] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i didnot i had it because i had f11 before and i installed kubuntu and after that i had no entry for boot of f11 !!!
[20:05] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: i do not use Vbox i dunno if you can share host's serial devices with the guest OS ask in #vbox
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: yeah, dmidecode will tell you
[20:06] <tonii> jadew: upgrade kernel in redhat. if there is no way to compile for older kernels.
[20:06] <Spec> just double checked
[20:06] <danbhfive> evonise`emp: you probably should file a bug report on launchpad
[20:06] <ronj> danbhfive, that's exactly what I needed. thanks!
[20:06] <Titan8990> DarkMind, run: sudo vgscan
[20:07] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: hm still nothing
[20:07] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : The program 'vgscan' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:07] <DarkMind> apt-get install lvm2
[20:07] <DarkMind> bash: vgscan: command not found
[20:07] <jadew> I can't upgrade that kernel with out like... a week of useless work. This lack of backward compatibility is completely retarded. Linux.
[20:07] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, just make a new user and move all the contents from the home folder, then stay away from crappy MS protocols and ACLs
[20:07] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : am installing lvm2 now !
[20:07] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: google is your friend http://techtooltip.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/using-host-serial-port-from-guest-in-virtual-box/
[20:07] <Titan8990> DarkMind, k
[20:08] <tonii> jadew: don't know much about compiling, but there probably is a way to compile the code for older kernels.
[20:08] <jadew> tonii: yeah, I'll ask the glibc guys, I have a feeling that it's their fault
[20:08] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: will all software still work that i installed?
[20:09] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, yes everything should be the same only with a different username
[20:09] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : root@smoke:/home/dark# vgscan
[20:09] <DarkMind>   Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
[20:09] <DarkMind>   Found volume group "VolGroup" using metadata type lvm2
[20:09] <EgyCoder09> Spec: i can know the size but i want to know it's DDR1 or DDR2 ??
[20:09] <red_> my x server keeps on freezing. is ther any way to check a log to see what causing this?
[20:09] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, you will need to fix perms after you copy the data
[20:09] <tonii> jadew: sounds like a good idea. :)
[20:09] <routh> (Repeat) I have an issue with an NFS share under Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit - The NFS share is being exported fine, and mounting corrrectly. Although the export is set for full read-write access however, only the 'root' user or a user running 'sudo' can change the files from the client. Anyone experienced with NFS here?
[20:09] <evonise`emp> danbhfive, how can i do that?
[20:09] <Titan8990> DarkMind, now: fdisk -l
[20:09] <puff> I have a file that has a .rtf extension but when I open it in openoffice it appears to contain gibberish.  How would If igureout what sort of file format it is?
[20:09] <danbhfive> !bug | evonise`emp
[20:09] <puff> The file commands says it's Rich Text Format but that may just be becaues of the extension.
[20:09] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: is there a link or tutorial? or is it just very easy?
[20:09] <puff> b
[20:10] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : am pasting in pastebin
[20:10] <schummelpilz> i have problems configuring gnome-network-manager correctly. i can connect to my pptp vpn server at home but i cant ping computers in my LAN or do anything like it. you can find logfiles here: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/problem-mit-pptp-vpn-auf-wrt54gl/
[20:10] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, its very trivial to me but I am an experienced user
[20:10] <erUSUL> puff: file does not use the file extension to find out what a file is
[20:10] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211480/
[20:10] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: hm okay well im just a nooby ;)
[20:11] <EgyCoder09> i want to know my ram type is it DDR1 or DDR2 ??? help me
[20:11] <tonii> EgyCoder09: check bios?
[20:11] <erUSUL> EgyCoder09: dmidecode | less
[20:11] <Titan8990> DarkMind, it looks like something has altered the geometry of your disk
[20:11] <evonise`emp> ubottu: how can i do a command if i cant install ubuntu?
[20:11] <Titan8990> DarkMind, does sda1 mount properly?
[20:11] <Rictoo> what's the default dhcp client on Dapper Drake?/daemon
[20:11] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : yess am right now on it !
[20:11] <Spec> EgyCoder09: look in dmidecode
[20:11] <mechajunior> hi
[20:11] <erUSUL> Rictoo: dhclient
[20:11] <evonise`emp> danbhfive how can i do a command if i cant install ubuntu?
[20:12] <Spec> EgyCoder09: sudo dmidecode > file.txt, and pastebin the results and i'll tell you
[20:12] <Titan8990> DarkMind, lucky, if it was ntfs it would be toast
[20:12] <routh> I have an issue with an NFS share under Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit - The NFS share is being exported fine, and mounting corrrectly. Although the export is set for full read-write access however, only the 'root' user or a user running 'sudo' can change the files from the client. Anyone experienced with NFS here? I'm just running out of time for this, getting frustrated. My apologies. Every howto and forum post I've read says
[20:12] <mechajunior> why cant you install ubuntu ??
[20:12] <routh> my config on both the server and client are correct, however my issue is unchanged. I should have full RW access.. but only superusers do. I have info on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m739c2af2
[20:12] <cjae> How do I use kdiff to weed out duplicate mp3's, I am not sure this program is for that sort of thing
[20:12] <danbhfive> evonise`emp: you want the manual option.  File a bug report through that link, and include all the steps you have taken.  Hopefully, someone will be able to help you figure out what is going on
[20:12] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : prob i think is that it sda1 is replaced by ubuntu boot ! :S
[20:12] <evonise`emp> danbhfive ok thanks
[20:13] <M0E_lnx> does anyone know how to make os-prober detect the os installed to the running / ?
[20:13] <Titan8990> DarkMind, what do you mean?
[20:13] <erUSUL> cjae: no it is not meant for that type of task afaik
[20:13] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: can you spit some command? :D
[20:13] <Spec> EgyCoder09: My 'sudo dmidecode' clearly tells me I have Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
[20:13] <tonii> routh: dows the user have permissions to alter files on the nfs-share, or just root?
[20:13] <nowimproved> My url bar is blinking with an autofill in every time i type even like two letters. Its annoying, anyone have a solution?
[20:13] <nowimproved> just started recently
[20:13] <tonii> does.
[20:13] <Rictoo> erUSUL, how do you use dhclient -.-
[20:13] <Spec> dhclient <iface>
[20:14] <EgyCoder09> Spec : in which part ??
[20:14] <erUSUL> Rictoo: sudo dhclient «iface»
[20:14] <Spec> EgyCoder09: pastebin it?
[20:14] <Titan8990> DarkMind, run: sudo vgdisplay & sudo lvdisplay
[20:14] <EgyCoder09> Spec : ok
[20:14] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i mean i had sda1 was boot partition of f11 of 200mb and sda2 was f11 ! and now after installation ubuntu is using same sda1 for its boot u can see the * sign !!!
[20:14] <Spec> EgyCoder09: 'cause it's not obvious :p
[20:14] <erUSUL> Rictoo: where iface is eth0 or wlan0 or ppp0 or whatever
[20:14] <routh> tonii: As far as I know, ALL users should have full read write access.. according to the How To's
[20:15] <tonii> routh: hm, was some time ago I played with nfs. I
[20:15] <tonii> I'll look through the pastebin
[20:15] <fastputty> how do i change the svn client user ?
[20:15] <fastputty> svn commit will use by default the old one how can i change it
[20:15] <yooy> hi
[20:15] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211483/
[20:15] <DarkMind> here i pasted dem in it
[20:15] <cjae> erUSUL, do you know of something I can use to do this?
[20:16] <tonii> routh: hm, isn't mounts through fstab mounted as root, and as such only root is able to alter the files?
[20:16] <erUSUL> !info fdupes
[20:16] <vegombrei> whats the difference between gnome and kde? what happens if i installed a kde package on gnome?
[20:16] <sebsebseb> !gnome |  vegombrei
[20:17] <sebsebseb> !kde |  vegombrei
[20:17] <red_> my x server keeps on freezing. what is the log to check a log to see what causing this?
[20:17] <Rictoo> erUSUL, my bro ran it and said a bunch of stuff scrolled by
[20:17] <Rictoo> and while it was running he tried to ping his router
[20:17] <Rictoo> but it said host unreachable
[20:17] <sebsebseb> !xubuntu |  vegombrei
[20:18] <erUSUL> Rictoo: well it would help to see that stuff to see what the problem is
[20:18] <indus> !ff3.5
[20:18] <danbhfive> red_: I think: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:18] <EgyCoder09> Spec: http://pastebin.com/m64e25c05
[20:18] <indus> hello i have got firefox 3.5 in jaunty
[20:18] <indus> its final  i believe
[20:18] <routh> tonii: Thats what I'm unsure of, the HOWTO's I followed seem to indicate this setup allows full RW.. but it doesn't.. I want the shar to load at boot for all users, is there a setting I can change in FSTAB to allow this?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: and then you can choose which one you want to run from the log in screen,   also  KDE apps can run in Gnome, just like Gnome apps can run in KDE,  most of them
[20:18] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : dere ?
[20:18] <Spec> EgyCoder09: you have DRAM
[20:18] <indus> just updated
[20:18] <vegombrei> wow thanks ubottu :)
[20:18] <EgyCoder09> spec : more details plz
[20:19] <gilles> How do I find out what directory my USB drive is at, I need to unmount it :/
[20:19] <EgyCoder09> Spec: 1 or 2 ?
[20:19] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo mount /dev/VolGroup/lv_root /mnt/foobar
[20:19] <Rictoo> erUSUL, it says "listening on *mac address* sending on *mac* then dhcp discover on blabla 3, then diff interval number"
[20:19] <gilles> vegombrei: Ubottu is a bot :)
[20:19] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: there is even a way to run the older KDE3 :)  which I prefer to KDE4,  except for some of it's apps which I run in Gnome anyway so :)   so the Live CD  and the repo
[20:19] <Rictoo> then finally "no dhcp offers received"
[20:19] <sebsebseb> !kde3 >  vegombrei
[20:19] <Titan8990> DarkMind, /dev/VolGroup/lv_root is the volume you are wanting to mount
[20:19] <Spec> EgyCoder09: 1
[20:19] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: wanted to do that in the channel really
[20:19] <Spec> EgyCoder09: as it doesn't say two
[20:19] <DarkMind> ahaan
[20:19] <xy_42> hi - i am trying to execute a binary built on another machine.  It gives segmentation fault when I run it.  What are the options I have?
[20:19] <EgyCoder09> Spec: can i know it from my proccessor speed ?
[20:19] <tonii> routh: as I said, was sime time ago I played with NFS. I'd have to look up some info to answer you correctly :)
[20:19] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : and /mnt/foobar is created or i should creat ?
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: you have a 512 mb DIMM, DRAM in bank 1, in bank 2 you have a 1024 mb DIMM/DRAM, both are at 533 mhz
[20:20] <EgyCoder09> Spec: coz my proc is 2.0 GHZ
[20:20] <xy_42> the binary was built on a ubuntu machine
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: no
[20:20] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: so which one is the least processor hungry from the lot?
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: i just told you everything important about your memory that's available :p
[20:20] <Titan8990> DarkMind, whenever you see foobar it is a variable intended to be replaced
[20:20] <Titan8990> DarkMind, make it or change it, your choice
[20:20] <DarkMind> okie
[20:20] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: Xubuntu probably,   then Gnome,  then I expect  KDE 3, and then KDE 4
[20:20] <EgyCoder09> Spec: thanks
[20:21] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: proccessor or do you mean RAM?
[20:21] <puff> erUSUL: okay, so it's RTF, how od I get it to be not-gibbrish?
[20:21] <gilles> Why can't I output stuff to /dev/sdb1 (my USB stick)?
[20:21] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : mount: special device /dev/VolGroup/lv_root does not exist
[20:21] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: also there are loads of lite waight window managers
[20:21] <erUSUL> puff: i would try another word processor like abiword...
[20:22] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: please? ;)
[20:22] <erUSUL> puff: maybe the file is just corrupt... can you get a fresh copy ? redownload ?
[20:22] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: well yeah .. both actually ... processor, and ram
[20:22] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : mount: special device /dev/VolGroup/lv_root does not exist
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !windowmanager
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !wm
[20:22] <tonii> routh: you need to add "rw" to your fstab on the client ;) http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s04.html#nfs_boot_time
[20:23] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, sudo adduser test && sudo cp -al /home/sjoerd /home/test && sudo chown -R test:test /home/test
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, not sure man
[20:23] <DarkMind> ummm
[20:23] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: ty later on i can rename it ? and restore everything?
[20:23] <DarkMind> wat u suggest then
[20:23] <DarkMind> ?
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo lvscan
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, then try again, if it doesn't work, I recommend the forums
[20:24] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: here's a useful site in your case http://xwinman.org/
[20:24] <DarkMind> root@smoke:/mnt# lvscan
[20:24] <DarkMind>   inactive          '/dev/VolGroup/lv_root' [226.91 GB] inherit
[20:24] <DarkMind>   inactive          '/dev/VolGroup/lv_swap' [5.78 GB] inherit
[20:24] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: this pc is a 3.4ghz p4 1gb 64mb gnome kinda brings it to its knees .. i disabled compiz but if you say xubuntu is lighter ill try that out
[20:24] <routh> tonii: ok I tried that, and removed it - because there was no change
[20:24] <DarkMind> Titan8990, :
[20:24] <tonii> routh: tried it, and remounted?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: check out the link I just gave you,   those window managers and such  they will be lite
[20:24] <puff> Eruaran: I have the imopession that re-downloading is not feasible, but I'll try abiword first.
[20:24] <routh> tonii: yep.. I'm going to readd it and remount now.. but I think this may be based around the UID
[20:25] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: thanks :)
[20:25] <DarkKrai> Does anyone know of a script that executes a shell script on right click?
[20:25] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: np  by the way  Xubuntu to me is just a cut down version of Gnome,  that isn't  as good
[20:26] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : dunno bro it isnt working i hope datas lost ! i think i ill go for format all OS !!!!
[20:27] <Titan8990> DarkMind, might want to avoid lvm unless your looking to do a lot of learning with it
[20:27] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: dude too many options on that link .. you got any recommendation?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: :)  yeah Linux is all about choice
[20:27] <epaphus> Hey guys, how do I uncompress a gz file..? through the command prompot
[20:27] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : what u suggest ? format or some more trying ?
[20:28] <tonii> routh: I'm off, need to get some sleep. hope you can solve the problem though. :)
[20:28] <cjae> when you copy commmands from a website and paste them into the terminal, why sometimes does it hit enter for you?
[20:28] <routh> tonii: thanks - night mate
[20:28] <max__> hey
[20:28] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: personally  I didn't get that far wm trying,  because I ended up with something  I didn't like or whatever,  but  Fluxbox and Enlightment are pretty popular these days,  however I would rather use XFCE/Xubuntu  unless  I  used the Elive CD or something, which I haven't tried yet,  where they have made  Enlightment good
[20:28] <max__> whats up dawg
[20:28] <Slart> cjae: because sometimes you copy the newline character too
[20:28] <routh> cjae: There was a newline or enter char on the end of the line that you copied
[20:29] <cjae> ah ok thanks
[20:29] <Slart> cjae: be sure to just mark enough so you get the last character, that usually works
[20:29] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : thx anyways !!! :)
[20:29] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: Gnome and KDE the two most  popular,  then  XFCE
[20:30] <scottj> i've got a fresh install of 8.10, and still having slow web connection on all web apps. isp is fine, and modem confirms it. lookin for definitive advice ONLY plz
[20:30] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: oh ok .. so switching desktops wont really ease the stress basically
[20:30] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: you can install loads of wm's and such,  and try
[20:30] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: what is the stress exactly?
[20:30] <erUSUL> epaphus: gunzip file.gz
[20:31] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: things are slow?  how much RAM?
[20:33] <fergus> /j #zagaia
[20:33] <scottj> do i understand correctly that a static ip will improve lookup speeds?
[20:33] <ikonia> scottj: no
[20:34] <scottj> iknoia, elaborate
[20:34] <ikonia> scottj: it won't improve lookups
[20:34] <scottj> gee thanks for the elaboration.....
[20:34] <ikonia> scottj: what do you want me to say ?
[20:35]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[20:35] <Dulak> scottj: the client's ip has zero correlation with the time it takes to do a lookup.  Static or Dynamic, it's still just an ip requesting a lookup.
[20:35] <ikonia> !away > D3f0
[20:37] <scottj> dulak thanks, that sorta helps. so much for all the know it alls i encounter during google searches huh?  anychance you can assist in narrowing down what is boggin down my web apps in 8.10? didn't have this issue in winxp
[20:37] <ikonia> scottj: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf file
[20:37] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: its like my display card fan .. goes flat out at times gets a little annoying mate
[20:38] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: hmm sounds like some sort of hardware issue to me
[20:38] <Dulak> scottj: the problem is on load?  As in it takes a long time to load up a page you request for the first time?  How are multiple hits to the same page?  If you refresh a page a couple times is it nice and fast on the refresh, or just as slow as the initial load?
[20:38] <ilyako> Sa
[20:39] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: display card fan??    what did you mean by flat out?
[20:39] <scottj> dulak its slow all around. pages take forever to load, on the order of 30-45 secs, torrents just barely trickle, but i'm sure that is another subject all together
[20:40] <ikonia> scottj: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf file
[20:40] <scottj> ikonia i don't know, how do i find out
[20:40] <ikonia> scottj: open that file in a text editor
[20:41] <scottj> that doesn't help me, i'm new to ubuntu
[20:41] <ubu_> hi,does someone have a mp510 the french wiki thing(*DefaultInputSlot: asf -> *DefaultInputSlot:frontplain) doesn't work
[20:41] <Cube> hey can somebody PM me i'm testing if it's working?
[20:41] <ikonia> Cube: please keep this channel for ubuntu support
[20:42] <sebsebseb> ubu_: Do you maybe want the French Ubuntu channel?
[20:42] <Cube> ikonia: pardon me brah
[20:42] <ubu_> sebsebseb, nobody is responding there
[20:42] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: flat out is when somethings running at its max possible speed
[20:42] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: and display fan?
[20:43] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: like fffffflat out :)
[20:43] <roman> ВСЕМ ПРИВЕТ!!!
[20:43] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: anwyay ##hardware is the channel for hardware issues
[20:43] <scottj> dulak you think you can help?
[20:44] <palomer> french people never respond
[20:44] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: yeah im sure its that coz it only happens when youre surfing like one of those porn sites or something with flash video ... thats it .. my dispays on heat and the fan goes absolutely flat out
[20:44] <Dulak> scottj: wish I could mate, but I've gotta leave, sorry
[20:44] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: oh in Firefox?
[20:44] <sage_> came today :>
[20:44] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: I have had problems where  Firefox in Ubuntu made my computer go really bad, and slow and yeah
[20:44] <mdwright> Does anyone have any experience getting a kickstart install working with 9.04? I have it working in 8.04 but need help getting it working on 9.04
[20:45] <scottj> ok thanks anyway, dulak, but can ya point me in the right direction? something i could read up on? this seems to be a fairly common problem with ubuntu users but the only solutions i find involve turning off ipv6 and that didn't help
[20:46] <usr13> Is Ubuntu9.04-PS3 32bit or 64bit?
[20:46] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: sebsebseb i guess its time to upgrade for my sake ... i been researching some hardware and its absolutely insane man .. they have water colling now so you dont hear the fan ..
[20:46] <usr13> Can one install mplayer on Ubuntu9.04-PS3 ?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: normalley with many  tabs open and  Flash.   well  Firefox 3.5  is out now, but  as usual  Ubuntudevelopers/Canonical  aren't dealing  with  later major  final versions of software properly,  hence why you can't  install the proper final just yet  from an offical Ubuntu repo
[20:47] <sebsebseb> !ff35  >  vegombrei
[20:47] <usr13> !PS3
[20:47] <sebsebseb> vegombrei:  you probably got an actsaul hardware issue of some sort though, so yeah ##hardware
[20:47] <vegombrei> ubottu: how? im on irssi
[20:47] <indus> i got the new ff 3.5 in jaunty
[20:47] <indus> from the repos
[20:47] <gilles> ubottu, I love you!
[20:48] <indus> upgrade folks
[20:48] <sebsebseb> indus: ok  that's nice
[20:48] <ubu_> anyone? does someone have a canon MP510? I ve spent the whole day trying to make it work with the 2nd paper slot....the upper one eat the paper so I need to make the other paper slot work
[20:48] <sebsebseb> !love >  gilles
[20:48] <indus> even though it still says shiretoko in menu :!
[20:48] <gilles> indus: I DL'd my 9.04 yesterday, and the FF seems to be just fine.
[20:48] <sebsebseb> indus: yes it's not the final,  it's well the bot link explains
[20:48] <indus> gilles: its firefox 3.5
[20:48] <gilles> sebsebseb: Lolz!
[20:49] <sebsebseb> gilles: indeed :)
[20:49] <gilles> indus: Haven't been reading along, but what's wrong with it?
[20:49] <indus> sebsebseb: bot is old now. just got the updates an hour ago
[20:49] <sebsebseb> !ff35
[20:49] <indus> ff 3.5 twice as fast as 3
[20:49] <sebsebseb> indus: good, but is it faster than Opera?
[20:49] <indus> enjoy
[20:49] <indus> sebsebseb: not yet but probably with 3.6 or 4
[20:49] <SNAX> where does ubuntu store the drivers it already has
[20:49] <gilles> indus: Is opera that fast? Never really tried it
[20:50] <indus> gilles: yes it is great but i dont like to deviate too much from ubuntu stuff
[20:50] <sebsebseb> gilles: Opera is meant to be  the most fastest browser,  also it  does a great job at following web standards,  just like  Firefox, and  Chomre, and so on,   pretty much everything except that  Internet Explorer disaster
[20:50] <sebsebseb> gilles: that was Chrome above
[20:51] <gilles> indus: Yeah sorry for going offtopic
[20:51] <queso> I am having trouble getting my wireless working.  I've started a thread to get some help, but no one has responded: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  If you have any time, I'd appreciate your help. Thanks ;)
[20:52] <scottj> how do i go about fixing (once and for all) slow web-ness? all web apps are unbearably slow
[20:53] <gilles> scottj: Are you sure it's not your internet, might be someone downloading from your network and eating all the bandwith
[20:53] <indus> !ff3.5
[20:53] <indus> ubottu: ff 3.5 is ready !
[20:53] <indus> :)
[20:53] <GiJ> Haha
[20:54] <humbolt> seems my ATOM has no frequency scaling
[20:54] <GiJ> He's just not *that* intelligent ^^
[20:54] <NfuidS> I was wondering in which runlevel I should put the sphinx search engine script? 2 or 3?
[20:54] <sebsebseb> indus: Fedora 11  came with  Firefox  Beta 4,  and  must have  got the final way before  Ubuntu  as well :D
[20:54] <humbolt> in jaunty
[20:54] <scottj> GiJ yes i'm sure its not my isp, i called them all is well, my modem confirms it as well
[20:54] <NfuidS> I see that postfix is using rc3.d and I thought it would have been in rc2.d
[20:54] <sebsebseb> indus: Firefox 3.5  Beta 4 that was
[20:54] <d4rkfe4r> Quick ?.  Where does ubuntu store all the driver info when you install them?
[20:54] <indus> sebsebseb: ya maybe,
[20:54] <bzrk> scottj: use different name servers
[20:54] <indus> sebsebseb: same in ubuntu ff b4
[20:54] <scottj> bzrk like what?
[20:55] <bzrk> local bind
[20:55] <indus> sebsebseb: i was happy to see when i open browser after update it said ;you have been upgraded to 3.5
[20:55] <indus> what i dont get is, why not remove ff 3 and make 3.5 default
[20:55] <mdwright> Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu and Kickstart?
[20:55] <bzrk> scottj: apt-get install bind9
[20:55] <GiJ> indus: Meh! Mine is 3.0.11 :(
[20:56] <alfacat> Hi. I want to buy a nvidia board to use with jaunty. What's the best supported recent graphics board?
[20:56] <bzrk> /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:56] <scottj> bzrk what is that?
[20:56] <sebsebseb> indus: ,because most of the add ons won't work on  Firefox 3.5 yet
[20:56] <indus> GiJ: install it from synaptic, its next to ff 3.0
[20:56] <bzrk> a nameserver
[20:56] <indus> sebsebseb: hmm yes agreed
[20:56] <DarkKrai> alfacat, I use and nvidia geforce 7600 gt oc
[20:56] <GiJ> indus I prefer 'lynx' for browsing them internets!
[20:56] <DarkKrai> it works fine
[20:56] <indus> sebsebseb: but the community is already working fast on it
[20:56] <pting> is there a work around on jaunty amd64 where when you upload a file through flash on ff, the whole UI updating blocks until the file is done uploading?
[20:57] <indus> sebsebseb: it still has the old ff logo from dapper though
[20:57] <indus> blue globe
[20:57] <sebsebseb> indus: yeah that's for development version
[20:57] <alfacat> DarkKrai: is it good? can you do 3D?
[20:57] <DarkKrai> yes
[20:57] <scottj> bzrk, your gonna have to dumb it up some, i ain't got a degree in network science
[20:58] <DarkKrai> its not expensive either
[20:58] <indus> sebsebseb: i guess they will update logo too soon cos in about ff it says 3.5
[20:58] <bzrk> scottj: it converts names of webpages to ip adresses
[20:58] <GiJ> How do I hide my IP when using Kongregate to get on IR?C
[20:58] <alfacat> great! :-)
[20:58] <fraser> How do you make it so that your comp never sleeps?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> indus: I don't think the logo will get updated that soon
[20:58] <etzerd> hello all
[20:58] <sebsebseb> indus: if  at all
[20:58] <fraser> I have it set to 'never' but all the connections I have running die after a few hours
[20:58] <cabrey> fraser, System > Preferences > Power Management
[20:58] <etzerd> can anyone tell me what is the name of the last ubuntu version
[20:58] <GiJ> Jaunty something
[20:58] <cabrey> etzerd, Jaunty Jackalope
[20:58] <ferret_> GiJ: kongregate is a website, not an irc client
[20:58] <DarkKrai> ^
[20:59] <DarkKrai> lol
[20:59] <indus> bye all enjoy
[20:59] <etzerd> thanks
[20:59] <stroyan> rom1v: You nvidia-common configure problem looks more like a duplicate of  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/303795
[20:59] <GiJ> ferret MEEEH! I meant Konversation +.+
[20:59] <bzrk> scottj: just run sudo apt-get install bind9 and edit /etc/resolv.conf so there is only a line "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" in it
[20:59] <GiJ> ferret, Too much time spent on Kongregate for me ,)
[20:59] <makaraki> Hello everyone greetings from spain I have a problem with my wireless detection using ifconfig it does not appear but if I use iwconfig instead it shows that it exists
[20:59] <etzerd> because everytime I go to Medibuntu it give me an error.
[20:59] <etzerd> one more ?
[20:59] <scottj> bzrk isn't my modem supposed to handle that sorta thing? and if sooooo many ppl are having probs with web apps in ubuntu, why can't ubuntu just fix it? (2nd question is rhetorical)
[20:59] <bzrk> scottj: then check if it has improves
[20:59] <ferret_> GiJ: You're telling me; I have it on highlight
[21:00] <etzerd> where can I download the codecs so I can Play DVD
[21:00] <bzrk> scottj: your modem will be using your isps nameservers and if they suck there is not a thing ubuntu can do
[21:00] <keith-> does grub install to the mbr with a default install?
[21:00] <GiJ> etzerd: Totem Mediaplayer should update them themselves
[21:00] <scottj> bzrk so what your saying is, is that my problem is related to dns?
[21:00] <bzrk> scottj: i say it might be
[21:01] <bzrk> scottj: in fact it is the likeliest cause
[21:01] <rom1v> moreover I have no nvidia
[21:01] <makaraki> keith-: Theres always a boot loader in every mbr
[21:01] <GiJ> Anyone know how I can hide my IP with Konversation?
[21:01] <scottj> bzrk if in the event that it does not improve my problem, autoremove will uninstall it and make it go back to normal?
[21:01] <danbhfive> bzrk: scottj: installing resolvconf might work better than editing resolv.conf
[21:01] <Tenkawa> !ff3.5
[21:02] <bzrk> scottj: if it does not help run sudo apt-get --purge remove bind9
[21:02] <cabrey> GiJ, request a cloak in #freenode
[21:02] <GiJ> Thanks Cabrey
[21:02] <fanum> so will it replace the 3.0 release once its final (instead of coexisting)
[21:02] <scottj> ok bzrk i'll give it a shot
[21:03] <cabrey> fanum, no, it coexists with 3.0.11
[21:03] <makaraki> Hello people can anyone give me some help with network interface handling
[21:03] <cabrey> fanum, it will not replace the firefox package
[21:03] <Hilikus> whats the recommended firewall for ubuntu *SERVER* ?
[21:03] <Ruby> Hey I'm trying to install ubuntu on my second HDD, I set the CD drives boot priority in the  BIOS to first
[21:03] <Ruby> and it still just boots onto the second HDD
[21:03] <cabrey> Hilikus, IP Tables
[21:04] <JesusCake[BoT]> Hi I was wondering if there was a way to take my ubuntu partition off of the boot sequence and just make a virtual machine with it within windows
[21:04] <Ruby> Any idea as to what to do
[21:04] <Tenkawa> JesusCake[BoT]: use a p2v converter
[21:04] <cabrey> JesusCake[BoT], dd your partition to a img and then convert that from raw -> virtualbox format
[21:04] <Tenkawa> cabrey: heh or that way too
[21:04] <Tenkawa> :)
[21:05] <makaraki> Hi again I have Ethernet card working ok and also a wireless card but the last one the wirless card does not appear when I type the ifconfig command
[21:05] <scottj> bzrk bind9 installed, plz walk me thru next step
[21:05] <Tenkawa> qemu-img does wonders
[21:05] <cabrey> makaraki, try ifconfig -a
[21:05] <cabrey> makaraki, or iwconfig
[21:05] <Ruby> Guys?
[21:05] <Tenkawa> Ruby: that sounds like a bios issue to me
[21:06] <makaraki> cabrey: iwconfig shows me the interface in monitor mode
[21:06] <Tenkawa> if its booting from the wrong drive
[21:06] <erUSUL> Hilikus: ufw ? shorewall ? firehol ?
[21:06] <Ruby> Yeah it also thinks it has a floppy drive so yeah
[21:06] <Tenkawa> erUSUL: I prefer iptables cli
[21:06] <bzrk> scottj: backup /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/resolv.conf.bnup; use your favorite editor to remove all contrent from /etc/resolv.conf and insert the line nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:06] <Hilikus> erUSUL: i'm looking into ufw, which one do you like better?
[21:06] <cabrey> makaraki, it appears, yes?
[21:06] <Ruby> Let me think
[21:06] <fanum> Ruby: double check the bios settings, and see if there is a bios update fgor your motherboard
[21:06] <cabrey> Hilikus, ufw is an interface to iptables
[21:06] <makaraki> cabrey: yes it appears using the iwconfig
[21:06] <Tenkawa> Ruby: bios' are kinda funny about floppies (and their (non)existence)
[21:06] <scottj> bzrk sorry for being a noob but i don't know how to do that
[21:06] <cabrey> Hilikus, sort of a manager, if you will
[21:07] <cabrey> makaraki, wasn't that your question?
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: then first go find an editor you like
[21:07] <Hilikus> cabrey: thats what i read, thanks
[21:07] <scottj> bzrk like gedit
[21:07] <bzrk> yes
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: you need to edit the file as root
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: so use sudo
[21:08] <makaraki> cabrey: well I remember that long time ago I was trying to use the airpack and such stuff and I think I did a big mess with all settings and dirvers
[21:08] <stroyan> rom1v: If you have no nvidia device on the system then "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-common" is definitely a good first step to correcting the problem.  If  apt-get doesn't want to do that you could use "sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-common".
[21:08] <scottj> bzrk sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf? that brings up the conf file, but how to back it up?
[21:08] <makaraki> cabrey: so I want to know the best way to configure my wireless card again
[21:08] <erUSUL> Hilikus: i use firehol but my comp is a desktop...
[21:08] <rom1v> It resolved the problem :
[21:08] <rom1v> :)
[21:08] <Pickenzak> stroyan: Inhale a virus, same thing.
[21:08] <rom1v> I reinstalled it and it works
[21:08] <rom1v> (even if useless)
[21:08] <bzrk> scottj: the file gets replaced when you restart so you dont really need to back it up
[21:09] <Ruby> Okay
[21:09] <cabrey> makaraki, network manager
[21:09] <rom1v> thank you very much
[21:09] <Ruby> The BIOS update is a .ROM file
[21:09] <rom1v> stroyan
[21:09] <Ruby> I take it I burn it to a disk and then put it in my CD drive and reboot?
[21:09] <default> k hello
[21:09] <makaraki> cabrey: Actually I tried using the Knetworkmanager
[21:09] <Tenkawa> Ruby: not necessarilpy
[21:09] <CrAzYoNi> In Ubuntu, I noticed that Mailx must be installed for be in use - it not coming by default with the installion.
[21:09] <Husaini> hi
[21:09] <CrAzYoNi> Though what about Mail?
[21:09] <makaraki> cabrey: so I will try to reinstall it
[21:09] <Tenkawa> er necessaarily
[21:09] <fanum> Ruby: what motherborad is it?
[21:10] <nellmathew> anyone here have a broadcom (4306 rev 3) and use ndiswrapper instead of b43-fwcutter? b43 keeps disconnecting every so often, i want to know if this problem can be fixed without ndiswrapper before going through all the trouble..
[21:10] <CrAzYoNi> Because I already installed Mailx I don't know what about Mail...
[21:10] <Ruby> ASUS m4A79 deluxe
[21:10] <Tenkawa> you should read the bios update readme/instructs
[21:10] <CrAzYoNi> *Mail (CLI command)
[21:10] <Tenkawa> this is the first machine I'
[21:10] <Tenkawa> err
[21:10] <Tenkawa> I
[21:10] <scottj> bzrk what is the command to back up the /etc/resolve.conf?
[21:11] <Tenkawa> ve run into that the wireless had a module in the stock install but the wired didnt... ironic
[21:11] <rom1v> sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf{,.bak}
[21:11] <bzrk> scottj: what rom1v said
[21:11] <scottj> so just copy/paste that?
[21:11] <tyler_d_> I would like to list all files from within directories and sub-directories?
[21:11] <makaraki> cabrey: thanks for your support I will try to find an acces point to check if the network manager detects the essid if it is public configured
[21:11] <GiJ> Amagawd!
[21:11] <fanum> ruby: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198062
[21:11] <Ruby> Yeah I'm going to boot onto windows for a bit
[21:11] <bzrk> scottj: you shouldnt copy paste as root
[21:11] <GiJ> Ubuntu lacks a mail and lynx command
[21:12] <fanum> oh if you have windows
[21:12] <bzrk> scottj: type read rerread press enter
[21:12] <Tenkawa> GiJ: install them
[21:12] <fanum> see if you can find an executible for your bios update
[21:12] <Flare183> GiJ: Actually it has a mail and lynx command
[21:12] <GiJ> Tenkawa: I know, I'm just amazed they aren't here standard
[21:12] <Flare183> GiJ: You have to install them first tho
[21:12] <Tenkawa> hhehe
[21:12] <Tenkawa> I was j/k
[21:12] <makaraki> bye people see you latter
[21:12] <Tenkawa> yeah
[21:12] <Tenkawa> mail I can understand
[21:12] <Tenkawa> lynx... maybe
[21:13] <umut> testing
[21:13] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Lynx is the best!
[21:13] <Tenkawa> true
[21:13] <Tenkawa> :)
[21:13] <lopeze> Is it possible to install Windows Vista under VirtualBox with just an upgrade disc?
[21:13] <GiJ> What mail package should I install? mailutils or heriloom-mailx
[21:14] <Tenkawa> lopeze: ummm... wrong channel
[21:14] <fanum> lopeze: no
[21:15] <MaT-dg1> still no way to upgrade to firefox3.5? (really an upgrade, not the shiretoko thingie)
[21:15] <newbee> hello
[21:15] <newbee> test
[21:15] <Tenkawa> heh not use to having actual battery life anymore
[21:15] <donald> test
[21:15] <Tenkawa> this is nice
[21:15] <donald> anyone know anything about setting up dual monitors
[21:16] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Desktops rarely have a batery, Tenkawa ,)
[21:16] <Tenkawa> GiJ: I only run notebooks or server hardware
[21:16] <Tenkawa> havent had a
[21:16] <Tenkawa> er "desktop" in years
[21:16] <umut> when do we have ff 3.5?
[21:17] <Tenkawa> mind you my current 2 servers are just overmodified desktops
[21:17] <Tenkawa> heheh
[21:17] <Guest94072> I need help setting up dual monitors
[21:17] <a> hey,
[21:17] <nellmathew> umut , MaT-dg1 : give it a few more days, they did this with 3.0 too, just making sure everything's right
[21:17] <cjae> ok since I am getting frustrated with gui apps, anyone know a simple syntax command to get rid (with prompt preferably) of duplicate mp3's it does not need to re cruse, I have use fslint and fdupes and still see the many many duplicates
[21:17] <GiJ> Tenkawa: I just vacuum cleaned the desktop that was eating dust next to me, it got too nasty... Trying to find a really lightweight linux distro to run some stuff on it, tests and stuffles^^ Has to be fun
[21:17] <danbhfive> Guest94072: have you tried xrandr?
[21:17] <Tenkawa> GiJ: ahh
[21:17] <a> can i as a none-linux related question. I want to go to germany in a week, but dont know where to go, and what to do. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:18] <bzrk> Guest94072: nvidia card?
[21:18] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Got any sugestions? has to be graphical but really lw :)
[21:18] <Tenkawa> GiJ: hmm...
[21:18] <umut> a: which city in Germany?
[21:18] <Tenkawa> you can make debian pretty small with xfce
[21:18] <lwells> When do you think firefox will be available in the repo and not as beta?
[21:19] <Guest91120> my screen closed on me.......what was the program name for dual monitors?
[21:19] <a> umut berlin, hamburg perhaps
[21:19] <Tenkawa> lwells: we all wonder
[21:19] <a> something in the north
[21:19] <danbhfive> !xrandr | Guest91120
[21:19] <GiJ> Tenkawa: O Really? People told me Arch Linux was really lw, Gentoo too, but too hard to setup
[21:19] <a> umut since im droping leaving from sweden
[21:19] <Tenkawa> they are ok too...
[21:19] <ReligionsBlow> Ah, thats better
[21:19] <umut> In Berlin go see the wall, in hamburg eat hamburger :)
[21:19] <lwells> Tenkawa, they are currently testing it?
[21:19] <Tenkawa> all get to be a bit more work
[21:19] <bzrk> a: if hamburg visit the reeperbahn
[21:19] <Guest91120> @danbhfive - I had it setup and had to reinstall
[21:20] <Tenkawa> lwells: I hope so but I do not know
[21:20] <lwells> ok
[21:20] <a> bzrk what is taht?
[21:20] <Guest91120> now my screen says "unknown"
[21:20] <bzrk> a: its a famous red light district street
[21:20] <acke> bzrk: my pregnant gf will not like that very much,
[21:20] <acke> ..
[21:20] <olof_> I have started to investigate migrating software-properties-gtk to use policykit instead of sudo, but I need some help with policy-kit-related stuff. Where do I get assistance? Should I talk to someone involved in  ubuntu, policykit or software-properties-gtk?
[21:21] <bzrk> acke: its not as bad as it sounds ^^
[21:21] <acke> would you know of any site that could help me out with what events are planned in germany in july?
[21:21] <acke> in english
[21:21] <bzrk> acke: basically id say that and the harbour
[21:21] <GiJ> acke: Try google.
[21:22] <umut> acke: only event you will get in Germany in July is rain :)
[21:23] <hqrsie> i hear Germany is a total sausage festival
[21:23] <Hilikus> any comments on ufw vs shorewall anyone?
[21:24] <Tenkawa> Hilikus: iptables cli :)
[21:24] <Tenkawa> Hilikus: ;)
[21:24] <Tenkawa> er :)
[21:24] <nellmathew> anyone know if ndiswrapper fixes the random disconnection issues with broadcom 4306s (b43)?
[21:24] <scottj> bzrk i noticed a slight improvement after changing resolv.conf to read only nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> but you mentioned that that change will be erased after a reboot?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> does ubuntu keep a list of hardware pci ids to module mapping on the website?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> or where should I go to investigate that
[21:25] <Promille> Hey. What program can i use for monitoring my CPU temp ?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> Promille: lm-sensors backend
[21:25] <bzrk> scottj: with installing bind it should stay locally, the file gets replaced it if is not there on boot, it might be overwritten by your dhcp client updating your ip from your router
[21:25] <Tenkawa> and any gnome/kde frontend
[21:26] <Promille> Tenkawa: thanks, ive tried that, but it says there is no sensors, though i am pretty sure it is
[21:26] <bzrk> scottj: i dont know you need to check that for yourself
[21:26] <Phinsfan> Has anybody had any luck installing lexmark printer X2600?
[21:26] <Tenkawa> Promille: odd
[21:26] <Promille> Tenkawa: do i have to restart to make it work ?
[21:26] <Tenkawa> bzrk: he might need some nsswitch tweaks too
[21:27] <scottj> bzrk am i to do anything with bind9 or just let it do its thing after installing?
[21:27] <bzrk> Tenkawa: you want to walk him though them? :P
[21:27] <Tenkawa> bzrk: heheh no
[21:27] <bzrk> scottj: you dont need to change anything in bind
[21:27] <Tenkawa> I'd have to look them up again
[21:27] <uhuru2> hi
[21:27] <Guest91120> Why is my screen showing up as UNKNOWN and the external screen (attached to my laptop) is not showing up?
[21:27] <Tenkawa> scottj: what is your goal you are trying to accomplish?
[21:28] <Guest91120> dual screen
[21:28] <Phinsfan> Has anybody had any luck installing lexmark printer X2600?
[21:28] <bzrk> scottj: wait and see what ip is in the resolv.conf after reboot or after a few hours
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: even after detect screens?
[21:28] <uhuru2> problem in pidgin ..;gtalk failed to connect
[21:28] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - yeah
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: odd
[21:28] <bzrk> scottj: if it changes again you need to do something, if not, youre good to go
[21:28] <scottj> tenkawa; improve web speeds, all my web apps like browsers and torrent clients are uber slow
[21:28] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - seriously!
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: hmm... you try the function switch key or make sure which one is default in bios?
[21:29] <scottj> bzrk thanks so much for the help
[21:29] <uhuru2>  8-)
[21:29] <Tenkawa> scottj: umm.. bind locally shouldnt be needed for that
[21:29] <bzrk> scottj: np yw
[21:29] <scottj> tenkawa i'm open to suggestions
[21:29] <uhuru2> your help pls for pidgin
[21:29] <c-man> hey guys, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and i downloaded some files, and it is a .rar folder. for some reason it won't open, someone help?
[21:29] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - I tried fn...but not the bios....
[21:29] <Guest91120> c-man - you need an un-rar
[21:30] <Tenkawa> you got something else probably causing a problem like a bad name service delay or ipv6 lookups or avahi, appletalk, etc lookups delaying
[21:30] <Guest91120> @ Tankawa - lol....in english?
[21:30] <scottj> tenkawa thatz all greek to me
[21:30] <c-man> where do i get an un-rar program?
[21:30] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: the last was for scottj
[21:30] <thiebaude> uhuru2: whats wrong with your pidgin?
[21:30] <schermann> d
[21:30] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all.
[21:30] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: yuou might cxhecking the bios to see if there even is a toggle
[21:30] <Guest91120> ahhh
[21:30] <magnetron> hi, how do i find out which package contains a specific file (not yet installed)
[21:30] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm looking for some help with a touchscreen implementation
[21:31] <uhuru2> gtalk failed to connect
[21:31] <magnetron> c-man: use synaptic and add the "unrar" package
[21:31] <Tenkawa> magnetron: apt-file
[21:31] <magnetron> Tenkawa: ty
[21:31] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - how is that done?
[21:31] <Tenkawa> np
[21:31] <c-man> alright, mucho gracias :D
[21:31] <_UsUrPeR_> for some reason, I am not able to get it working properly with 9.04. Though I can cat the output (it's a serial device) from /dev/ttyS0.
[21:31] <_UsUrPeR_> which shows it's working
[21:31] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: not working at all or flaky?
[21:32] <_UsUrPeR_> Tenkawa: I have not gotten it to work in Jaunty yet
[21:32] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: ouch
[21:32] <Tenkawa> serial.. ouchiw
[21:32] <Guest91120> brb
[21:32] <Tenkawa> er ouchie
[21:32] <_UsUrPeR_> like I said: I can cat the output from /dev/ttyS0 (I can see output when I touch the screen), but I cannot get it to control the mouse
[21:33] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: probably needs a driver/module to interact
[21:33] <uhuru2> no one not able to solve my problem
[21:33] <Tenkawa> did it work before?
[21:33] <uhuru2> yes
[21:33] <Tenkawa> uhuru2: not really giving us any info to work from
[21:34] <Tenkawa> is there a verbose error or debug trace?
[21:34] <Turl> hello
[21:34] <thiebaude> uhuru2: do you get any errors?
[21:34] <uhuru2> i cannot open pidgin , it flashes out
[21:34] <_UsUrPeR_> Tenkawa: the driver I am using is apt-getable. the package is xserver-xorg-input-elographics
[21:35] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: ahhh
[21:35] <Turl> I'm trying to set up a ipv6 tunnel, but ufw makes it get 100% packet loss
[21:35] <Turl> any idea on how to solve it? disabling ufw makes it work
[21:35] <sage_> what is the channel for crossover games
[21:35] <sage_> support
[21:35] <_UsUrPeR_> I am referencing this with an xorg.conf (it has some calibration that must be done), but it's just not picking up the input
[21:35] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: very odd
[21:35] <_UsUrPeR_> indeed
[21:36]  * _UsUrPeR_ puts on his manacle
[21:36] <_UsUrPeR_> flpxj s/manacle/monocle
[21:36] <schermann> ss
[21:36] <xiong> under what circumstances should i not accept an automatic update?
[21:36] <uhuru2> you may mail me on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please
[21:37] <uhuru2> thank you
[21:37] <uhuru2> good night
[21:37] <Nameless_au> xiong: when it conflicts with other repositories
[21:37] <tyler_d_> how do I create an md5 hash for a file.... from terminal
[21:37] <tyler_d_> ?
[21:37] <Ktron> tyler_d_, md5sum <file>
[21:37] <Tenkawa> uggh
[21:37] <tyler_d_> Ktron: ty
[21:37] <thiebaude> xiong: if its me i accept all updates
[21:38] <Tenkawa> found the wired driver....
[21:38] <ubuntu__> Oh god
[21:38] <Tenkawa> this might be
[21:38] <Maddog> hi
[21:38] <Tenkawa> "interesting"
[21:38] <Maddog> i got a quesiton about ubuntu
[21:38] <hipitihop> I have a machine which goes to dark screen after a given user logs in but can't see errors. I can ssh in. What log do I need to see what is wrong ?
[21:38] <Maddog> I have no sound i have the crappy PPC version but thats all i have for my machine is there a way to scan and fix your sound?
[21:39] <Ktron> hipitihop, dark for every user, or one user?
[21:39] <ubuntu__> I wanted to remove all the data in /tmp due to lack of space. So I do sudo rm * -r, and it starts deleting all the files
[21:39] <ubuntu__> Then I realise I was in /
[21:39] <Tenkawa> eeeek
[21:39] <Turl> any ufw guru in here?
[21:39] <chazco> Hi... i have a netbook running at 1024x600... is it possible to run VNC at a higher resolution on a host computer (e.g. a desktop at 1440x900)...
[21:39] <Tenkawa> chazco: should be able to
[21:39] <Flare183> ubuntu__: I think Ubuntu itself should have stopped you
[21:40] <xiong> Nameless_au, how would i know that i had a conflict with 'other repositiories' -- i don't even have a clear idea of 'repository'
[21:40] <ubuntu__> Flare183: No I use Debian, I'm just on Ubuntu live CD ATM
[21:40] <hipitihop> Ktron: that's a little involved but I think in short, just the one
[21:40] <Flare183> ubuntu__: Ahh ok
[21:40] <chazco> Tenkawa - Any idea how? Most of the VNC servers only seem to provide the clients resolution...
[21:41] <Tenkawa> chazco: hmm.. I thought there was a toggle for it but its been a while
[21:41] <ditty_kong> @ chazco: Maybe if your grapghics card is configured to be able to you might
[21:41] <chazco> ditty_kong - Afaik the maximum the netbook GPU can offer is 1024x600
[21:41] <Ktron> hipitihop, if its just the one, I'd look in that users home directory (verify they have one) for files like .xinitrc and see if they have something bizarre configured
[21:42] <chazco> Tenkawa - You can choose "Scale" on the client but that just stretches it, doesnt actually run at the chosen resolution
[21:42] <Tenkawa> ahh
[21:42] <Tenkawa> true
[21:42] <Tenkawa> thats what I was thinking about
[21:42] <owner_> hello
[21:42] <owner_> anyone can help me?
[21:43] <MrCraig> hi all - I reeeally need some help here.  A few weeks ago I made the mistake of buying a usb-> parallel printer cable as my laptop doesn't have an lpt port - no matter what I tried I couldn't get the printer to work (HP Laserjet4),  but I'm suffering without it.  If there is anyone with good knowledge of cups / usb please IM me, any help you can give is appreciated.
[21:43] <Tenkawa> owner_: gotta tell us what the problem is first
[21:43] <humbolt> is there a vdpau enabled mplayer repository available already?
[21:43] <owner_> how to install b43 in ubuntu kernel 2.6.28-13 ?
[21:43] <Tenkawa> !b43
[21:43] <owner_> yeah?
[21:43] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <owner_> hhmm..
[21:44] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <Tenkawa> owner_: the broadcomm driver?
[21:44] <owner_> yes
[21:44] <owner_> b43
[21:44] <ditty_kong> I thought broadcom works out of the box in Ubuntu, it does fo rme
[21:44] <Tenkawa> cant help myself.. no broadcom here
[21:44] <Tenkawa> ditty_kong: certain nics
[21:44] <owner_> hhmm...
[21:44] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <Tenkawa> just like atheros is missing a few too
[21:44] <ditty_kong> I had to compile the kernal module myself when I switched to Debian I might be able to help
[21:44] <jiffe> anyone used gfs before?  I'm having trouble creating/mounting a partition, I run 'mkfs.gfs -J 32 -j 4 -p lock_dlm -t web:log1 /dev/sdb1' which runs fine, but then 'gfs_tool getsb /dev/sdb1' claims it is not a gfs partition
[21:45] <jiffe> not entirely sure where I am going wrong
[21:45] <owner_> anyone can help me?
[21:45] <owner_> hhmm..
[21:45] <owner_> compile?
[21:45] <ditty_kong> what is the boradcom driver specifically. run in terminal lspci and post it here
[21:45] <Tenkawa> jiffe: you sure it put it "as" /dev/sdb1?
[21:45] <Tenkawa> some of those tools can be odd
[21:46] <ditty_kong> @owner_  in termanl <lspci> and find the broadcom u r using and tell me what it is
[21:46] <cjae> ok so I need to compare files not by md5sum eg. mp3's how can I do that?
[21:46] <jiffe> it doesn't say otherwise
[21:46] <GiJ> What was the hotkey to go to kernel again in ubuntu? :/ ANd the one to switch back
[21:46] <jiffe> I fdisked /dev/sdb, giving it the full space, which created /dev/sdb1
[21:46] <sloth-118> hey all does any 1 no how to get on backtracks irc channel
[21:47] <justinHONK> Anyone know any good linux distros under 500 MB?
[21:47] <justinHONK> with wireless support?
[21:47] <ditty_kong> @ justinHONK: Puppy Linux, Slackware....
[21:47] <owner_> my device is bcm4312 rev 2
[21:47] <owner_> ditty_kong: my device is bcm4312 rev 2
[21:47] <GiJ> justinHONK: ArchLinux is pretty small too
[21:47] <Pirate_Hunter> justinHONK, ubuntu! there are many depends on how you set it up
[21:47] <jiffe> I tried just /dev/sdb, does the same
[21:47] <hipitihop> Ktron: looking into it.
[21:48] <ditty_kong> ok gimmie a sec to find ur driver
[21:48] <justinHONK> I just need something I can fit on a 512 mb usb drive with wireless support for my atheros card
[21:48] <owner_> hohhH
[21:49] <owner_> sorry
[21:49] <snarkster> howdy, can someone direct me to howto get my mic to work.. teamspeak doesnt work so good with a mic
[21:49] <henryC> I've spent many hours now trying to get php 5.3 working with openssl transport on ubuntu jaunty.  Anybody else solved this problem?  Unable to find the socket transport "ssl" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP?