[00:00] <RoflWaffle17> Redramires, I haven't changed any of the monitor configurations...I even updated my nvidia drivers and evvrything
[00:00] <redramires> ctugt: What is an error?
[00:00] <ctugt> ill be right back ill write it down
[00:01] <jarco> afflicto, struggling at nearly the same try running sudo amdcccle in terminal and see what comes up
[00:01] <redramires> RoflWaffle17: Try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23869/could-not-apply-the-stored-configuration-for-the-monitor
[00:02] <afflicto> jarco: yeah it worked :P
[00:02] <jarco> Do all amd cards have the same fan speed problem as me? (fan runs full speed all the time)
[00:02] <red22> How can I make an entry in grub for my windows partition pls?
[00:02] <jarco> afflicto, lucky you :)
[00:04] <QTPieMan> is ubuntu forums coming back again?
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: have you read the page ?
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, yup
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it say....
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm is hacked
[00:04] <afflicto> ok so I was able to setup my 3 monitors using amdcccle. but when I rebooted I have only 1 monitor the other ones are completely white! -,-
[00:04] <ikonia> QTPieMan: does it say they are re-installing it to restore service ?
[00:04] <radicalzebra> anyone have trouble with ubuntu while using an iphone as a hotspot? for some reason my os crashes a lot in this configuration
[00:04] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hmm, is it gonna take a month?
[00:05] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what does it say on the website
[00:05] <QTPieMan> ikonia, 2013-07-22: work on reinstalling the forums continues.
[00:05] <ikonia> QTPieMan: right, so it says they are working on it, but doesn't set a date.
[00:05] <QTPieMan> ikonia, oh ok
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: so therefore, if thats the information being provided how would anyone in this channel know if it's going to take a month ? (what a random time for you to ask)
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: you really need to start reading information that is available to you,
[00:06] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ph pk
[00:06] <ikonia> QTPieMan: ph pk ?
[00:07] <QTPieMan> ikonia, thats oh ok
[00:07] <ikonia> I see
[00:07] <varunendra> QTPieMan, Here is an update thread : http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/update-on-status-regarding-re-opening-the-forums/754/36
[00:08] <QTPieMan> varunendra, ok
[00:08] <afflicto> I think I'm gonna give up. I guess I'm gonna head back to windows 7. Or just lag around with open source drivers.
[00:09] <sunshinejay> is ther any antivirus for ubuntu?
[00:09] <QTPieMan> sunshinejay, yup lots of
[00:10] <QTPieMan> sunshinejay, but why do u need a anti virus?
[00:10] <ikonia> sunshinejay: no, there isn't
[00:10] <guzzlefry> There should be... :P
[00:10] <ikonia> guzzlefry: no, there shouldn't be
[00:11] <QTPieMan> ikonia, u forgot clamav :P
[00:11] <guzzlefry> How are you supposed to scan email attachments for your mail server?
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: no, I didn't
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that is not an antivirus for ubuntu - that is a mail scanner
[00:11] <ikonia> QTPieMan: that is not antivirus for the OS - that is a mail scanner
[00:11] <QTPieMan> ikonia, ?? nope
[00:12] <ikonia> as a file system scanner it's useless
[00:12] <ikonia> you're welcome to use it
[00:12] <QTPieMan> ikonia, what about others?
[00:12] <ikonia> QTPieMan: what others ?
[00:12] <QTPieMan> ikonia,  http://www.ossdoc.com/2013/02/top-3-antivirus-for-ubuntu-and-linux.html
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: worthless
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: not even "for linux"
[00:13] <guzzlefry> Probably shouldn't assume why he's asking about it. It could very well be for email scanning.
[00:13] <OerHeks> Avast stopped, by the way
[00:13] <QTPieMan> ikonia, i dont think we need a anti virus
[00:13] <ikonia> QTPieMan: I know he doesn't
[00:14] <ikonia> OerHeks: good, one useless product stopped
[00:14] <QTPieMan> ikonia, yup
[00:14] <jarco> Ok now I have the CCC working over here. But now the Control center is in german (linux language is English. Any solutions?
[00:14] <varunendra> ikonia, QTPieMan as far as I know, clamav uses same virus definition database as its windows version (which is also an "on-demand" scanner). And it does scan files and detects viruses. Only it's an on demand one.
[00:15] <ikonia> varunendra: hence why it's useless
[00:15] <Mkop1> my computer just crashed 3 times in a row when trying to log in. eventually I decided to install lubuntu and managed to log in that way, but how can I debug what went wrong with that gnome/unity login?
[00:15] <ikonia> varunendra: it's only good for scanning for windows virus, such as in email, which is why it's worthless to linux
[00:15] <QTPieMan> heres everything clearly www.ossdoc.com/2012/11/do-we-need-anti-virus-on-linux.html
[00:16] <ikonia> that's a pretty poor link
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, for scanning windows viruses :P
[00:16] <ikonia> I'd stop recommending ossdoc.com - everything you post from there seems pretty weak
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, pk thanks for telling me
[00:16] <QTPieMan> ikonia, *ok
[00:17] <guzzlefry> There are a few Linux viruses, nothing widespread though. >_>
[00:17] <varunendra> ikonia, I agree with the lack of live part. But at least it solves the purpose most of the people need an antivirus for.... to save or protect windows. Those viruses are not going to do anything to linux anyway.
[00:18] <QTPieMan> varunendra, not wine WINE too :P
[00:19] <varunendra> what about wine?
[00:19] <OerHeks> My best security tip is Backup your data.
[00:19] <varunendra> goes without saying ;)
[00:20] <QTPieMan> using a firewall is enough
[00:20] <varunendra> Not going to protect from "plugged-everywhere" usb drives ;)
[00:21] <varunendra> firewall is a different thing with different purpose, QTPieMan
[00:21] <QTPieMan> well, programmers told me it isnt safe to use xampp, is it true?
[00:22] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i told that is "enough" to mess with security
[00:22] <OerHeks> xammp is not supported here, use lamp
[00:22] <jkitchen> is there a way to prevent certain files from being added during package installation? I want to install the libvirt-bin package but do *not* want it to install the default network and stuff.
[00:22] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, not supported here means?
[00:23] <kgreene> Does anyone have experience with taking apart the screen of a System 76 Pangolin Performance laptop? I can't access the bottom screws, and was wondering if anyone had advice
[00:23] <OerHeks> !xampp
[00:23] <OerHeks> there is a factoid for it
[00:23] <varunendra> jkitchen, unless it is a metapackage, it should only install the packages that are its dependencies.
[00:24] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, ok
[00:24] <varunendra> kgreene, maybe try #hardware
[00:24] <kgreene> varunendra, thanks
[00:24] <jkitchen> varunendra: talking about config files, not packages
[00:24] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, it is good to make a honeypot
[00:24] <OerHeks> :-D
[00:24] <varunendra> np :) kgreene
[00:25] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, sudo tasksel install lamp-server will be "sudo apt-get install lamp-server^"
[00:25] <jkitchen> varunendra: the libvirt-bin package installs some gunk in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default which I don't want, nor need
[00:25] <jkitchen> and since it starts the service upon package installation as well, it starts up the services associated with said gunk
[00:26] <OerHeks> QTPieMan, yes, tasksel has some nasty bugs, when you want to remove things
[00:26] <varunendra> jkitchen, then I've no idea. If you know the exact location of files, and if they are just configuration files, you can backup-->restore them though.
[00:27] <jkitchen> varunendra: backup-->restore?
[00:27] <QTPieMan> OerHeks, hmm
[00:27] <varunendra> just copy the config files then restore (overwrite) them after installation. But only if they are pure config files.
[00:28] <OerHeks> !tasksel
[00:28] <QTPieMan> i came to know apt-fast is slower
[00:28] <jkitchen> varunendra: ahh. perhaps I'm not being clear :) I don't want them to show up in the first place due to them being actually harmful to my setup
[00:28] <Braden`> Hello
[00:29] <QTPieMan> !apt-fast
[00:29] <Braden`> I am trying to run a binary (compiled for 32-bit) in linux.  It has the proper executable flags set, but when I run it, I get:  $ ./ventrilo_srv -i -- bash: ./ventrilo_srv: No such file or directory
[00:29] <Braden`> The file is obviously there in the directory
[00:31] <varunendra> jkitchen, what is copied where, and in what sequence, plus additional actions during installation, is all stored in "DEBIAN" folder in the .deb package, there is no external way to control it as far as I know. So unless you edit the .deb package(s) itself, I don't think you can control it.
[00:32] <trism> Braden`: you probably don't have libc6:i386 plus the other 32-bit libs necessary
[00:32] <jkitchen> varunendra: ok, thanks
[00:32] <crashfocus> Hey all - since the forums are down, I've come here for advice/help. Does ubuntu 13.04 run smoothly on the mid-2012 MacBook Pro (non-retina)?
[00:32] <jkitchen> looks like it's actually libvirt's Makefile adding it. the 12.10 version of the package doesn't add it.
[00:33] <QTPieMan> ikonia, hey can i only install seamonkey navigator? there use to be "sudo apt-get seamonkey-browser"
[00:33] <jkitchen> there's a patch in the 12.10 version of libvirt-bin which disables the silly behavior
[00:33] <Braden`> trism:  That fixed it, thanks
[00:34] <varunendra> jkitchen, are you dealing with source files? Not .deb? If so, you should be able to make it do what you want, but may take a lot of digging
[00:34] <jkitchen> varunendra: I apt-get source'd the package on my 12.10 box and was poking at it. seems there's a patch. I may just rebuild the deb myself to apply the patch
[00:35] <jkitchen> I was hoping it was being created in a post-install script or somesuch
[00:35] <jkitchen> and I could do some apt config magic to prevent it from being installed
[00:36] <varunendra> jkitchen, sorry for the vague references, hope someone better with this can answer more precisely.... I'm not much help in case of source.. :(
[00:36] <jkitchen> it's not source, the actual libvirt-bin package installs it.
[00:36] <jkitchen> anywho
[00:36] <jkitchen> I think I just need to rebuild the package
[00:37] <jkitchen> with the patch from 12.10 applied
[00:39] <bawank> hi anyone..
[00:40] <bawank> im newbie, and i wanna ask, what should i do after installing ubuntu 13.04 and installing update ?
[00:41] <crashfocus> bawank: What are you using Ubuntu for?
[00:41] <bawank> for personal desktop
[00:41] <crashfocus> Alright
[00:41] <bawank> at my lapto > fujitsu L series
[00:41] <crashfocus> so first things first, go through into System Settings
[00:41] <bawank> *laptop
[00:42] <bawank> crashfocus : then ?
[00:42] <crashfocus> and modify anything you might need to modify in order to get your laptop running in the way you want it to
[00:42] <bawank> crashfocus : thanks
[00:42] <crashfocus> Customization is a wonderful part of Ubuntu
[00:42] <OerHeks> start with restricted extra's, i guess, and see if there are videodrivers available.
[00:44] <crashfocus> Oh yeah
[00:44] <crashfocus> make sure you're using proprietary video and wifi drivers (unless you're a free software person)
[00:45] <varunendra> crashfocus, "Proprietary" is not always the best. Should be used only if the native one is not satisfactory.
[00:45] <crashfocus> Fair enough
[00:45] <crashfocus> my experience has led me to prefer proprietary over open-source
[00:46] <varunendra> crashfocus, and I think of all those "fglrx", "wl" driver issues when stating what I stated above ;)
[00:46] <QTPieMan> what is better lightweight browser? midori or epiphany browser?
[00:46] <hewhomust> qt, depends on what you want
[00:47] <hewhomust> i'd preger midori
[00:47] <clue_h> QTPieMan, lynx
[00:47] <hewhomust> lol nice
[00:48] <QTPieMan> ok
[00:48] <hewhomust> qt, chromiums also a nice browser
[00:48] <hewhomust> !lynx
[00:48] <QTPieMan> clue_h, that is cli
[00:48] <hewhomust> yeah lol
[00:48] <bawank> i wanna join a ubuntu forum, but i cant open the links > ubuntuforums.org
[00:48] <hewhomust> thats why i laughed
[00:48] <clue_h> All the way man
[00:48] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, not lighweight
[00:49] <clue_h> It really is
[00:49] <Kitt3n> bawank, Ubuntuforums is still down because some asshat decided to hack it
[00:49] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, chromium is resource hog, firefox is better
[00:50] <varunendra> bawank, Ubuntu Forums is currently down. May take a couple of days before it is live again.
[00:50] <hewhomust> yeah ok sorry
[00:50] <QTPieMan> varunendra, you know hindi?
[00:50] <varunendra> My mother tounge.
[00:50] <bawank> kitt3n, varunendra : seriously ?
[00:50] <varunendra> bawank, yep
[00:50] <Kitt3n> bawank, Yup
[00:51] <QTPieMan> varunendra, oh i found this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Varunendra
[00:51] <varunendra> Kitt3n, lol
[00:51] <bawank> :(
[00:51] <QTPieMan> Kitt3n, what "hat" ? :P
[00:51] <varunendra> QTPieMan, when did I become so interesting? lol !!
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, lol :P
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i saw u berfore
[00:52] <IdleOne> bawank: in the mean time you can try http://ubuntu-discourse.org/
[00:52] <QTPieMan> varunendra, *before
[00:52] <QTPieMan> IdleOne, isnt askubuntu enough?
[00:53] <bawank> Idle0ne : nice info, thx
[00:53] <QTPieMan> looks like midori always have this problem Error - file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[00:53] <IdleOne> QTPieMan: I would think so, but there is Discourse being worked on/tested
[00:53] <varunendra> bawank, particularly this thread : http://ubuntu-discourse.org/t/update-on-status-regarding-re-opening-the-forums/754/37
[00:53] <QTPieMan> IdleOne, yup
[00:54] <QTPieMan> !midori
[00:54] <hewhomust> qt try typing something it should go away
[00:54] <hewhomust> searching
[00:54] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, find
[00:55] <hewhomust> qt, are you trying to open the file in midori?
[00:56] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, no its showing in home page Error - file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[00:56] <hewhomust> yeah then just type something in the search bar
[00:56] <hewhomust> on midori
[00:56] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, is it working fine for you?
[00:56] <hewhomust> yeah
[00:57] <hewhomust> except for the first time when i started it a similar error to yours
[00:57] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, well the same thing is showing in linux mint 15
[00:57] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, when opened midori
[00:57] <hewhomust> could you give a screenshot please
[00:58] <hewhomust> cause i think its just a screwed up home page
[00:58] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/midori/+bug/950285
[00:59] <hewhomust> qt, can you get to the preferences window?
[01:00] <hewhomust> cause i would just change your homepage and see what happens
[01:00] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, oh i just need to change the home page
[01:00] <hewhomust> yeah i think so
[01:00] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, also theres no password manager in midori
[01:00] <lancien> !fr
[01:01] <hewhomust> well thats a flaw with the browser not a bug, theres probably a way to get a password manager though
[01:02] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, hmm
[01:02] <hewhomust> qt, did the error stop when you changed the homepage?
[01:03] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, yup, i also have to change to open home page in startup instead of tabs
[01:03] <hewhomust> cause, i get the same thing with the default homepage
[01:04] <hewhomust> thats pretty silly though, they should probably just change the default home page
[01:05] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, dont know why people are complaining from 2006
[01:05] <hewhomust> lol, its so easy too
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, hmm
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, not 2006 it will be 2008
[01:06] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, checked now
[01:06] <hewhomust> lol a whole 5 years
[01:07] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, yup
[01:07] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, maybe in #midori
[01:08] <hewhomust> lol
[01:09] <QTPieMan> is epiphany browser have a password manager?
[01:09] <hewhomust> https://help.gnome.org/users/epiphany/stable/ephy-managing-cookies-passwords.html.en
[01:10] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, i cant find a option to save
[01:11] <hewhomust> qt, i assume theres a popup option to save similar to chromium
[01:11] <hewhomust> actually forget that
[01:13] <hewhomust> qt, i just downloaded epiphany it is a game lol
[01:13] <QTPieMan> hewhomust, heres a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/epiphany-browser/+bug/180205
[01:16] <Phys> Greetings. I'd like to install windows 7 from ubuntu hard drive.
[01:16] <hewhomust> lol
[01:16] <hewhomust> hi phys
[01:16] <QTPieMan> Phys, kidding?
[01:17] <hewhomust> what do you mean?
[01:17] <Phys> Of course I'm not kidding. I want test one w7 and install from HD. Can I do that?
[01:17] <hewhomust> well phys could you paste the results from fdisk -l
[01:21] <hewhomust> phys still there?
[01:22] <hewhomust> lol
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot for those of you who laugh
[01:25] <hewhomust> wilee?
[01:26] <Kaytoo> hi
[01:26] <hewhomust> hi kay
[01:27] <Compn> wifi isnt working, bcm4311 is my card on laptop, i try modprobe -r wl and get Error: Module wl is in use. any ideas how to fix this ?
[01:27] <Compn> wireless doesnt show up in ubuntu , only my wired network
[01:28] <varunendra> Compn, do you have an active internet connection on the laptop? (wired, usb etc)
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> hewhomust, It seemed you were just laughing at this request it is an easy boot.
[01:28] <Compn> varunendra : wired yes, and i can give you ssh access
[01:29] <varunendra> not required :)
[01:29] <Compn> ssh root access... its fresh install
[01:29] <varunendra> Compn, first install the required package - "sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree"
[01:29] <hewhomust> wilee, i merely wanted him to provide the details for the ext4 partition to inform him of how to resize it
[01:30] <Compn> varunendra : installing
[01:30] <wilee-nilee> hewhomust, Cool.
[01:30] <Compn> done
[01:30] <hewhomust> but unfortunately then he left
[01:30] <varunendra> Compn, now - "sudo ifconfig eth1 down" (assuming eth1 is currently your wifi interface)
[01:31] <Compn> varunendra : dont see wifi in ifconfig
[01:31] <Compn> i got eth0 (wired) and lo
[01:32] <varunendra> Compn, what is "ifconfig -a" ? Does it show additional interface?
[01:32] <Compn> varunendra : does not list it, no
[01:33] <Compn> maybe i need a reboot
[01:33] <twenty-three> hi guys, i am trying to compile and i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913184/ . however, i already have g++ installed so idk what the problem might be
[01:33] <varunendra> Compn, the error that "wl is in use"  suggested that it must have been used by that interface. But no problem with that...
[01:34] <varunendra> Compn, just do - "sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source"
[01:34] <varunendra> Compn, then - "sudo modprobe -rfv wl"
[01:35] <nikescomputers> hey there
[01:35] <Compn> varunendra : now says module wl not found
[01:35] <nikescomputers> anyone have any good bash tutorials learning the terminal?
[01:36] <Compn> should be a few in google nikescomputers
[01:36] <Compn> :)
[01:36] <nikescomputers> thanks
[01:36] <Compn> sorry, dont have any links offhand
[01:36] <varunendra> Compn, that's okay. Did the purge command finish properly?
[01:36] <Compn> yes
[01:36] <nikescomputers> u ever use trainsignal?
[01:36] <nikescomputers> or cbt nuggets
[01:36] <Compn> well
[01:36] <Compn> Purging configuration files for bcmwl-kernel-source ...
[01:36] <Compn> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[01:36] <Compn> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ...
[01:36] <Compn> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-27-generic
[01:36] <FloodBot1> Compn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <varunendra> Compn, now try - "sudo modprobe -v b43". Does it make wifi active?
[01:37] <Compn> varunendra : just sits there at insmod /lib/modules/3.8.0-27-generic/kernel/drivers/ssb/ssb.ko
[01:38] <Compn> i had to change the kernel ubuntu uses because it was panicing at the start
[01:38] <Compn> so i'm on the older one
[01:38] <varunendra> Compn, if the apt-get purge command finished properly, just do a reboot if nothing else works.... wifi should work in the next boot.
[01:41] <Compn> varunendra : hopefully. i'm also having a problem with the update-initramfs , kept dying on tg3, should i apt-get remove and reinstall it or ?
[01:41] <varunendra> Compn, on the new kernel?
[01:42] <Compn> varunendra : on the old one, since i wasnt able to boot to the new one
[01:43] <varunendra> Compn, tg3 is a native driver, you can not remove it with apt-get, nor should be required to do so..
[01:44] <varunendra> The bcmwl-kernel-source (wl) driver isn't the correct one for your card, so hopefully, removing it should fix initramfs too.
[01:45] <Compn> varunendra : ok i got wlan0 now in ifconfig
[01:45] <varunendra> Compn, it should be working now.
[01:46] <Compn> yep works now, mucho thanks
[01:46] <varunendra> You're welcome :)
[01:46] <Compn> didnt see that in google results :\
[01:46] <varunendra> what?
[01:46] <Compn> your instructions
[01:47] <varunendra> heh, they should be in the broadcom instructions wiki page.
[01:47] <varunendra> !broadcom
[01:47] <hewhomust> !lxde
[01:48] <twenty-three> hi guys, i am trying to compile and i got this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913184/ . however, i already have g++ installed so idk what the problem might be
[01:48] <twenty-three> i think my problem might be related to this: update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/bin/gcc-4.4 because link group gcc is broken
[01:48] <Compn> varunendra : yes, but theres only one line , and its not clear that was my problem : "If you wish to permanently use the open source drivers then remove the bcmwl-kernel-source package:"
[01:49] <Compn> btw that wiki document is a pain to understand :D
[01:49] <jamie``> Hi guys im having an issue making Windows 7 the default OS, I'm following a guide but apparantly I don't have the file /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit, what do I do ? (GRUB version 2)
[01:49] <hewhomust> jamie try opening this
[01:50] <varunendra> Compn, the key to installing correct driver is to identify your chip first, then whether the proprietary one supports it. But yeah, that wiki page is somewhat too wordy
[01:50] <hewhomust>  /etc/default/grub
[01:51] <jamie``> thanks hewhomust, do I just edit and save the file where it is or copy it across?
[01:52] <hewhomust> just run sudo update-grub
[01:52] <hewhomust> after youre finished
[01:53] <varunendra> jamie``, menu.lst is not used anymore, the easiest way to manage boot is to use Boot-Repair, safe and easy : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:53] <Kitt3n> Or grub-customizer
[01:53] <jamie``> thanks varunendra!
[01:54] <fr33k4n> +1 for Boot-Repair. I have easily installed and dual booted windows 8 and ubuntu using it in uefi hardware
[01:54] <varunendra> np :)
[01:54] <dakotawulfy> I have used boot repair it is easy and works good
[01:54] <jamie``> hewhomust: still didn't generate the menu.lst :/ ill go with varunendra's suggestion
[01:54] <hewhomust> k np
[01:55] <varunendra> jamie``, hewhomust meant to edit the /etc/default/grub file - something that boot-repair does in a safer way. :)
[01:55] <fr33k4n> varunendra> i too had issue with broadcom wifi drivers in ubuntu 13.04. But after install when I checked in "additional drivers" tab, it was showing the required broadcom driver. Installing it fixed my issue with wifi after a boot
[01:56] <fr33k4n> but built in speakers is not working. I can use headset and sound works great
[01:57] <varunendra> fr33k4n, there are many broadcom wifi chips that work with more than one of its three variants. But the open source ones should be given the first priority, the proprietary one last.
[01:57] <fr33k4n> any idea how to fix the sound issue? kernel is 3.8.19
[01:58] <varunendra> fr33k4n, nope. I'm not into sound issues. :(
[01:58] <fr33k4n> np :)
[01:58] <Kitt3n> fr33k4n, are you using an AMD graphics card?
[01:59] <fr33k4n> only intel graphics card
[01:59] <Kitt3n> Okay, no idea then.
[01:59] <Compn> is there an easy way to recalibrate a laptop battery ?
[02:00] <fr33k4n> http://www.flipkart.com/sony-vaio-fit-15e-f15215sn-w-laptop-3rd-gen-ci3-2gb-500gb-win8-touch/p/itmdm64y4hdjbtjs?pid=COMDM64TZKAD9CJC&otracker=from-search&srno=t_3&query=sony+vaio+touch+screen+laptop&ref=edc33f81-5ab0-43d7-a1fd-4d4789001fe7
[02:00] <Compn> i unplug it and it goes from 90% to 46% pretty quickly...
[02:00] <fr33k4n> this is my lap if it helps
[02:01] <Compn> or just unplug > run it down > charge > run it down a few times?
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> Compn, Is it reading wrong or just worn out?
[02:01] <hewhomust> fr33 perhaps this will be useful http://askubuntu.com/questions/77494/laptop-built-in-speakers-not-working-on-an-hp-625
[02:01] <Compn> wilee-nilee : probably worn out
[02:02] <Compn> i didnt play with it for 5 months ...
[02:02] <varunendra> fr33k4n, do you have alsa mixer installed? (sudo apt-get install alsamixergui)
[02:02] <varunendra> fr33k4n, I often see that as a first suggestion for sound issues.
[02:02] <hewhomust> yeah perhaps its disabled
[02:03] <hewhomust> not alsa i meant the device
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> Compn, Not sure of any fixes if worn other than urban legends myself. ;)
[02:04] <fr33k4n> i think i had tried alsamixer and edited the alsa-base.conf before and rebooted with no result. But not sure, i had followed this exact guide. I'll try it later once i reach home..thanks for your suggestion
[02:04] <jeetpei>  Hi all
[02:05] <hewhomust> hi jeet
[02:05] <jeetpei> i have a question
[02:05] <jeetpei> i am using ar r command
[02:05] <hewhomust> wrong channel
[02:05] <hewhomust> nah just joking what is it?
[02:05] <Compn> wilee-nilee : ok, just making sure :)
[02:06] <jeetpei> i do ar r debian_binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz
[02:06] <hewhomust> tar isnt it
[02:06] <jeetpei> but i see some png files currpt
[02:06] <hewhomust> not ar
[02:06] <jeetpei> no its ar
[02:06] <hewhomust> oh ok
[02:09] <jeetpei> i am telling you full process : first i get .deb package .. then i do : ar vx <package> : i get data control and debian_binary .. now i untar data.tar.gz : copy my logo in that .. again tar data.tar.gz : then ar r debian.deb debian_binary control.tar.gz data/tar.gz
[02:09] <jeetpei> but i see logo is currpt
[02:09] <tofa> Hi I'm having a dual boot problem. Windows boots fine but ubuntu hangs in the boot process. Anyone able to help?
[02:10] <jeetpei> any idea ?
[02:10] <hewhomust> jeet what deb is this
[02:10] <hewhomust> ill download it and see if it breaks as well
[02:11] <jeetpei> :) sorry i can not publish this at this movment
[02:11] <hewhomust> no problem
[02:11] <hewhomust> tofa, what exactly happens?
[02:11] <the_cyber_guy> i am having a strange problem in ubuntu 13.04. i am using a usb mobile broadband dongle and ubuntu is unable to recognise it as a mobile broadband device and it does't comes up in the network manager too. while if i restart the computer and still on the ubuntu login screen it successfully detects and let me connect using the network manager option on the top bar. once connected on the login screen, later i am able to disconnect and reconnect in
[02:11] <the_cyber_guy> a logged in session too. what could be the possible reason for this ? it was all working fine with 12.10, 12.04 and 11.10.
[02:11] <Compn> wilee-nilee : i mean it goes from 50% to off . so i cant make ubuntu tell more accurately the power status ?
[02:12] <hewhomust> comp, does it physically turn off
[02:12] <hewhomust>  or is it just the calibration?
[02:12] <Compn> physically
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Compn, It may be do you have another OS or  live cd to check?
[02:12] <Kitt3n> Compn, sounds like an almost dead battery
[02:12] <hewhomust> then theres not really anything you can do
[02:12] <Compn> ok then :D
[02:12] <hewhomust> mine does the same thing
[02:12] <Compn> time for new battery
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Details please the windows release, the install type of ubuntu as well...etc
[02:13] <Compn> never liked laptops, always bad power issues :\
[02:13] <Compn> thanks again everyone
[02:13] <jeetpei> np
[02:13] <jeetpei> :)
[02:14] <jeetpei> so what is for my problem .. any guess
[02:14] <jeetpei> do we have another way to wrap up all tar files in debian package
[02:14] <jeetpei> ?
[02:14] <Vivekananda> hello everyone. long time. am going to install ubuntu 12.04 on vbox in windows 7 host. I want to write a script in python which prints a dictionary in a loop directly to a printer attached on the host computer. Will also later need to do this on a lan via wifi network. Can some gimme a novice set up instructions guide for this
[02:14] <sayakb> hi guys. I'm on ubuntu 13.04 x64. is there a utility like catfish that searches within files, but without using indexing?
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> the_cyber_guy, Can you identify the device?
[02:15] <hewhomust> vive, would python be more appropriate?
[02:15] <the_cyber_guy> wilee-nilee, yes i can find it using lsusb it shows Bus 003 Device 003: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[02:15] <jrib> sayakb: grep?
[02:15] <hewhomust> #python i meant
[02:15] <tofa> wilee-nilee , ubuntu 13.04 kernel 3.8.19 , windows xp, seperate boot and home partitions.
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> the_cyber_guy, Cool outside my pay range but that is good info for the channel.
[02:15] <jrib> jeetpei: what do you actually want to accomplish?
[02:15] <sayakb> jrib: looking for a gui tool.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Any history leading to this?
[02:16] <Vivekananda> hewhomust: did not get you ? the language I will be coding in is python but the guest system is ubuntu and the host win. so I will need info about the glue code that iwll make this happen. I guessed I would need system specific info eg samba or cups or something
[02:16] <jrib> sayakb: any editor will let you search within files; for example gedit
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ubuntu is a partitioned install, not a wubi right?
[02:17] <jeetpei> jrib: i have some logo problem .. i have debian package .. i do ar vx debian package
[02:17] <jeetpei> then untar data.tar.gz
[02:17] <jrib> jeetpei: describe "some logo problem"
[02:17] <jrib> jeetpei: please don't use enter as punctuation
[02:17] <hewhomust> vive, i would try the #python irc channel  for actual help with the code
[02:17] <the_cyber_guy> wilee-nilee, i have seen other people having the same problem with mobile broadband dongle on 13.04. but i have found that it can be connected successfully on the login screen. and later once connected you can reconnect/disconnect in a logged in session. is this a bug ?
[02:17] <tofa> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04 broke completely (shared computer) couldn't fetch the archives to upgrade to a new kernel so I wrote 0's to the partition and put ubuntu 13.04 on it. Then chrooted into the OS and ran update-grub.
[02:17] <jeetpei> logo file i got curpted when i do ar r
[02:18] <jrib> jeetpei: you aren't answering my question: what do you actually want to accomplish?  What is your end-goal?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> tofa, No grub-install /dev/sdX in the chroot
[02:18] <jeetpei> i want a deb package with good logo
[02:19] <jrib> jeetpei: great.  Now be more specific about what package you are talking about and exactly what the logo is in the package
[02:19] <tofa> wilee-nilee, yes grub is installed. on /dev/sda8 the boot partition
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> tofa, THis a gpt?
[02:20] <hewhomust> tofa you should do it to sda not a specific partition at least i think so
[02:20] <tofa> wilee-nilee, when I boot I get the grub splash screen. I beleive it is gpt no efi as far as I can see.
[02:21] <jeetpei> i have my company built debian package. where we see logo gets currpt when we build using ant. we found a workaround that we can do ar vx deb package ... and copy good logo in it and again wrap up
[02:21] <yalex> Hello I'm mounting some samba shares in fstab but its giving the wrong groups on my ubuntu desktop.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> tofa, From a live cd run this app, and the bootinfo summary and post the url generated this will give us a lot more info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:21] <yalex> Is there a way to map groups from the samba server to the linux client?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> run the summary only tofa
[02:21] <jrib> jeetpei: ok.  So what is the problem?  You've copied good logo and wrapped it up.  What is left to do?
[02:22] <usr13> yalex: How about nfs?
[02:22] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I installed that in the chroot environment and ran it to begin the boot. It sort of helped, will do what you ask.
[02:22] <yalex> The other PCs are windows so we only set it up as a samba server
[02:22] <usr13> yalex: Is the server Linux as well?
[02:22] <yalex> Yes its ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:23] <jeetpei> still i see logo gets currpt when i wrap up
[02:23] <yalex> I'm assuming its because the group id is different on the server to the desktop?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> tofa, For me if I can help the script is helpful to see much more info.
[02:23] <jeetpei> i am asking am i right with ar r option ?
[02:23] <jrib> jeetpei: explain what "logo gets corrupt" means.   So why are you even still bothering with this?  Isn't your issue elsewhere?
[02:24] <usr13> yalex: The same shares can be samba and nfs.
[02:24] <jeetpei> yes i see some other branch works good with this approch
[02:25] <usr13> yalex: chown root:users
[02:25] <tofa> wilee-nilee, here's the url http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913306/
[02:26] <usr13> yalex: or what-ever:users
[02:26] <jrib> jeetpei: make sure you are packaging back in the right order (binary, control, then data)
[02:26] <jeetpei> yes its right
[02:27] <sayakb> jrib: thanks, installed gnome-search-tool and integrated it with gedit
[02:27] <jrib> jeetpei: so your package works but the logo remains corrupted like it was before?
[02:27] <jeetpei> yes
[02:27] <jrib> jeetpei: so you need to explain what "logo gets corrupt" means.
[02:27] <usr13> yalex: What is it now?  (or what was it before?)
[02:28] <jrib> jeetpei: there might also be some issues with checksums that you need to worry about.
[02:28] <jeetpei> yes .. when i install my application in netgear6 i see UI shows currpted logo
[02:28] <jeetpei> ah i can check checksum of logo.png .. right ?
[02:28] <MasterShake> hey guys, for some reason my Linux chrubuntu 3.4.0 box is just simply not recognizing NAT, and im trying to configure my iptables. Can someone offer a hand? I've been at this all day, so it might take a little involvement if anyone feels like sparing a few moments of their time,
[02:29] <MasterShake> i get this error: iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[02:30] <MasterShake> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded."
[02:30] <ffio> where to ubuntu gets upstream packages from ?
[02:30] <ffio> s/to/do
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> tofa, The only efi I see is on the usb, you need grub in the mbr, run the chroot as grub-install /dev/sda : update-grub and reboot
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> grub-install /dev/sda ; update-grub
[02:30] <jeetpei> jrib: checksum is correct :(
[02:32] <jrib> jeetpei: Didn't you modify data by replacing a logo or something?  I don't have experience actually modifying and rebuilding a binary package (sidenote: don't you have the source package), but it would seem odd to me that you make a modification to data and still checksum is correct
[02:33] <jrib> jeetpei: are you saying that the old logo file has the same checksum as the new one?
[02:33] <jeetpei> so you are talking about data.tar.gz 's checksum ?
[02:33] <MasterShake> any ideas guys?
[02:33] <jrib> jeetpei: look at md5sums in control.tar.gz
[02:33] <yalex> usr13, the group should be sambashare (and is on the server) but is mlocate on the my desktop
[02:34] <jeetpei> i am not modifying control.tar.gz does it make sense ?
[02:34] <jrib> jeetpei: what are you modifying?
[02:34] <checoimg> Hi guys , How do I set Bash to have a black Background ?
[02:34] <jrib> checoimg: right click in your terminal, edit profile
[02:34] <MasterShake> checoimg: right click > prefrences > profiles > colors
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You also have partitions out of numerical order that can be problematic in some cases when trying to resize or delete a partition.
[02:35] <checoimg> Thank you guys! :D
[02:35] <checoimg> All set!
[02:35] <MasterShake> argh!!! i've been at this all day and it's driving me insane! why dont i have NAT enabled for?!
[02:35] <jeetpei> i am modifying only data.tar.gz by adding logo
[02:35] <yalex> is it due to sambashare having a different group id on the server to my ubuntu desktop machine?
[02:35] <MasterShake> checoimg: glad we could help =)
[02:36] <jrib> jeetpei: be more specific.  Give path.
[02:36] <jrib> !who | jeetpei
[02:36] <checoimg> :D
[02:37] <jeetpei> jrib: i am adding a logo in subdirectory of untared dat.tar.gz
[02:38] <tofa> wilee-nilee, when I run update grub in the chroot env. it comes up with no volume groups found.
[02:38] <RXL> Hey everyone. Any idea for AMD 64 boot problems. I get a black screen then have either restart or use the Esc key to boot. The new ubuntu I can't use I get lines on my screen thats it
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You had some problem in 12.04 is sda8 mountable at this point, I have a feeling we are trying to fix a broken system, am I right here?
[02:40] <jeetpei> jrib: thanks i am looking into control as well now.. may be i am messing something there when i modify data
[02:40] <jeetpei> jrib: thanks a lot
[02:40] <RXL> yep errors
[02:40] <yalex> usr13,  the group is sambashare on the server but it becomes mlocate on my ubuntu desktop
[02:40] <usr13> Well...
[02:41] <tofa> wilee nilee, No I got rid of the broken system. Someone had destoryed the kernel.
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Has 13.04 ever booted?
[02:41] <jrib> jeetpei: why don't you give full path like I ask?  Anyway, you will see that md5sum in control.tar.gz has md5sum for every file in data.tar.gz
[02:42] <tofa> wilee nilee, sort of, it got up to 'freeing kernel memory' and then hung.
[02:42] <varunendra> tofa, "Someone" ?? Make sure nobody is following you lately.. LOL..
[02:43] <tofa> varunendra, ?
[02:43] <varunendra> You said "someone destroyed the kernel.." .. tofa ;)
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Not sure of any fixes other than running a purge and reinstall of grub and making sure when asked you put grub in the sda the mbr, otherwise I would get the partition numbering fixed with a reinstall.
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> the out of sequence ias not the problem I think but not good overall.
[02:44] <jeetpei> jrib: which path you asking ? .. i am not sure .. neways i am looking into this .. ttyl
[02:44] <tofa> varunendra, yes it was wierd.
[02:45] <tofa> wilee-nilee, maybe we should make sure he chroot is corredt. I don't think I've updated fstab in it.
[02:45] <varunendra> tofa, have you checked the free space on the root or /boot partition ?
[02:45] <tofa> varunendra, yes plenty of it.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> tofa, This is the chroot I use I like it better. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[02:48] <tofa> wilee nilee, I bound fstab as well and now it finds the ubuntu kernel. Is there a way I check if it is bootable before trying to reboot as I'm operating out of a live cd at the moment and don't want to have to set everything up again.
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> one command click it and forget it.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> tofa, What does the update show, and did you load the mbr?
[02:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, it says "Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-19-generic   No volume groups found Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1 done"
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Have you run grub-install /dev/sda
[02:50] <tofa> wilee nilee, not sure what you mean about the mbr
[02:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, yes
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> tofa, My guess it will boot, but I never mess with boot partitions.
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> sda is the mbr
[02:53] <MasterShake> anybody can help with my NAT issue?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> tofa, You see "Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-19-generic in that update?
[02:53] <whoever> MasterShake: sure ill give it a go
[02:54] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I think the "chroot" environment may be causing trouble for tofa , it shouldn't be required for a simple setup. The "core.img" looking for partition 94 (??) is something I see in EFI setups only, unless it is a recent bug in boot-info-script.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Might be the sda is no gpt or efi, just the usb shows a efi.
[02:55] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I'm a gentoo user, usually running a single boot laptop but a friend wants a dual boot ubuntu which I set up for him but he has messed up compltely and now I have to fix it. Oh well thanks for your help I'll try to boot.
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> looks like a standrad msdos HD
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Hope your in, just enough anomalies for me to be well not quite sure.
[02:56] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, that's precisely why I doubt the chroot thing. It should be pretty straight forward, no chroot involved.
[02:56] <whoever> MasterShake: if you donn't talk i/we can't help.
[02:56] <whoever> all we know is that it is a nat issue
[02:57] <varunendra> tofa, what if you simply boot with the USB, forget chroot, install Boot-repair and use it for basic repair(s) (reinstall grub etc.)?
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Yeah, not sure I would think the chroot would be okay, do you mean since the efi is on the usb booted to the live?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> +1 one on the boot repair, not running from a chroot though, it says in its info a install to the sda
[02:59] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, yeah. I'm not very familiar with chroot, but I think apart from the chrooted directory, it uses the source's configuration
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, I rarely chroot, I just use supergrub if I screw up and do it from the desktop.
[03:00] <varunendra> I don't even know how to.. ;)
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> grub 2 is a whole lotta fun, works great when it works. ;)
[03:00] <Kitt3n> ^ Especially grub2-efi
[03:00] <surio> Hello room: :) I had previously  installed  12.04.1 on a VM in Windows and tested it. It played well. So I installed it on my HDD. I have Broadcom BCM4313 and the STA driver that comes with Jockey does not behave well. Wifi gets disconnected 5 mins into connecting and doesn't connect afterwards. Only reboot works, and rinse, repeat!.
[03:00] <varunendra> lol ("when" is the key).. ;)
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> oooh yeah Kitt3n. ;)
[03:01] <MasterShake> whoever: sorry. im getting the error iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[03:01] <surio> I removed those drivers and http://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 followed instructions provided for wheezy
[03:01] <MasterShake> whoever: i get that when i pass the "-t nat" argument into iptables
[03:01] <ni291187> hello
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> hi what's up?
[03:01] <surio> I got errors about new package trying to replace the old package of the firmware...
[03:02] <varunendra> surio, first thing to try would be to remove the proprietary driver and try the native one - brcmsmac
[03:02] <surio> ^^ see my description varunendra
[03:02] <tofa> wilee-nilee, are you still around?
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> tofa, yeah.
[03:02] <varunendra> surio, is the proprietary driver (wl) currently installed?
[03:03] <surio> no I removed it before attempting this
[03:03] <surio> varunendra no I removed it before attempting this
[03:03] <varunendra> surio, did you try - "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac" ??
[03:03] <tofa> wilee-nilee, still no luck with the boot. Grub splash screen came up but ubuntu just hung with a flashing '-' when I tried to boot it.
[03:04]  * MasterShake takes a seat and waits for his ticket to be called
[03:04] <varunendra> surio, the native brcmsmac driver works fine on 13.04 for this card. But a case of hit and miss on 12.04
[03:05] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913398/
[03:05] <surio> so what next?
[03:05] <trism> MasterShake: it probably means your kernel doesn't have CONFIG_NF_NAT
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I'm not sure really with it never booting really I ahve to wonder if a reinstall might be needed, and just make sure grub is loaded to the sda=mbr by using the manula something else option, thats what I would do with a never boot.
[03:05] <varunendra> tofa, I think you should re post the boot-info report without the chroot environment (and after trying basic repair in same mode).
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> Xp boots though so seems to be a problem in ubuntu
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> the bootrepair may fix it yeah.
[03:06] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913398/ modprobe's output
[03:06] <varunendra> surio, does it make your wifi work as expected?
[03:07] <varunendra> just saw it :)
[03:07] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I have the boot partition on an extended partition, maybe that's a problem. And I tried using boot repair to fix it before,
[03:08] <varunendra> tofa, that is not a problem for Ubuntu or grub
[03:09] <tofa> varunendra, I didn't think so but I'm clutching at straws here.
[03:09] <surio> varunendra, no :(
[03:09] <surio> trying trying..........
[03:09] <surio> varunendra, bbiab
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I use supergrub on occasion to boot in and just do all the fixin from the dektop, it is a tiny download
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[03:10] <tofa> wilee-nilee, what is supergrub? Never heard of it.
[03:10] <varunendra> surio, please post outputs of - "lsmod", "iwconfig" and "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:10] <Compn> oh no, ubuntu calls it a 'folder' instead of a 'directory'
[03:10] <malgorath> I am trying to install 13.04 with uefi and after I rebooted I have no windows 8 or Ubuntu boot loader. only see DVD drive in boot list
[03:12] <varunendra> tofa, for the kind of setup you have, I would have simply installed Ubuntu from USB in normal way. I don't understand why you even bothered with chroot or grub installation.
[03:12] <tofa> wilee-nilee, could it be that the ubuntu 13.04 install is broken?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> tofa, It is a boot in app, you download a tiny iso. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I wonder that.
[03:12] <tofa> varunendra, I did and everything has gone wrong from there :P
[03:14] <varunendra> tofa, your original description - "tofa> wilee-nilee, ubuntu 12.04 broke completely (shared computer) couldn't fetch the archives to upgrade to a new kernel so I wrote 0's to the partition and put ubuntu 13.04 on it. Then chrooted into the OS and ran update-grub."
[03:14] <tofa> wilee-nilee, is there a way to check if the install is broken?
[03:14] <varunendra> tofa, "write 0s, chrooted, update-grub" are all unnecessary steps, probably causing the trouble.
[03:14] <delinquentme> when I do stat on a file ... what is Gid
[03:15] <p3rsist> Hi guys. How do I setup a program to be started immediately after my encrypted home partition is decrypted?
[03:15] <tofa> varunendra, I did all the chrooting and updating when the first boot problem came along.
[03:15] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Closest I know would to see if supergrub gets you booted, and thats not really a debug.
[03:15] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Will do.
[03:15] <varunendra> tofa, and that is absolutely not required. Most of us don't even know how to chroot and can install Ubuntu just fine..
[03:16] <malgorath> I am only able to boot the DVD for Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit after installing
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, And?
[03:16] <malgorath> I am trying to install 13.04 with uefi and after I rebooted I have no windows 8 or Ubuntu boot loader. only see DVD drive in boot list
[03:16] <tofa> varunendra, just to clarify. I didn't install via chroot.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | malgorath
[03:17] <malgorath> wilee-nilee sorry doing irc from my iPad
[03:17] <RXL> Same problem I have, It boots to black screen, then I hit esc to boot
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, Thats about it for me on uefi stuff.
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> malgorath, ;)
[03:17] <varunendra> tofa, when you have an issue, you should consider simplifying things, as much as possible. May be you can even try a single empty partition instead of separate /boot and /home. Of course if you don't have much to loose there.
[03:19] <malgorath> thx wilee-nilee I will see if I can fix it now from boot DVD
[03:19] <tofa> varunedra, I agree. If this was my machine I would back up and start again but I can't do that as it's someone elses.
[03:19] <varunendra> tofa, I think the only thing you initially did wrong was choosing to install grub on a partition instead of the MBR.
[03:20] <chamunks> Whats the best way to broadcast our own internet radio station.
[03:20] <chamunks> One of my followers wants to do a network radio station.
[03:20] <bossman759_> it has to be radio? as in audio only?
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> chamunks, Followers?
[03:21] <chamunks> wilee-nilee, I run a minecraft network.
[03:21] <bossman759_> you can broadcast google hangouts on youtube
[03:21] <chamunks> yeaa no
[03:21] <Compn> chamunks : icecast ?
[03:21] <chamunks> icecast? hmm I'll google that
[03:21] <tofa> varunendra, I've found on multiboot systems it's usually safer to have a seperate boot partition. I've even got one for my single boot laptop.
[03:22] <varunendra> tofa, I mean the grub bootstrap program, not the grub config files. Separate /boot partition is fine. It is the boot loader that needs to be on MBR.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I have 4 OS one is W8 been runnig this way for years with no boot partition.
[03:24] <tofa> wilee-nilee, probably an unnecessary precaution. But this is the first time I've had an issue.
[03:25] <varunendra> tofa, during the installation, did you chose "Something else" option at the partitioning stage? I think you might have to manually tell the installer where the /boot partition is, so that grub gets installed correctly.
[03:25] <tofa> varunendra, Yes I did. I told it where the boot partition was and the home partition.
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> the mbr was empty is all
[03:27] <varunendra> tofa, in the same screen, it seems you chose a partition instead of the drive (sda<something> instead of sda). That was a wrong step.
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> When people want say easybcd for a bootloader you would install grub to the partition to keep the windows bootloader.
[03:27] <varunendra> for grub (boot loader) , tofa
[03:27] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Ok I've got the super grub thing going.
[03:27] <varunendra> oh yeah, with easy BCD it's a different thing wilee-nilee
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Choose the boot any or find any is I forget what it says exactly.
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, True I'm just saying if you want no grub menu you install to the partition. ;)
[03:29] <varunendra> Yup :)
[03:29] <tofa> wilee-nilee, oh god everything is stuffed!
[03:29] <varunendra> :/
[03:30] <tofa> wilee-nilee, it can't detect the ubuntu partition and when I boot into vmlinux it can't find the root.
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ah, sounds like a bad install to begin with is my guess.
[03:31] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913464/  Here's all those outputs you asked...
[03:31] <surio> varunendra, do you think reboot will help?
[03:31] <d4gg3r>  I want to compare two of my latex files and see the similarities between them. Any recommendation?
[03:31] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I agree. I think my iso must be damaged I'll redownload and reinstall.
[03:31] <tofa> d4gg3r, difftex.
[03:32] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Cool, good luck.
[03:32] <varunendra> surio, sometimes, when there is a driver conflict and the offending one can't be removed normally..
[03:32] <varunendra> surio, wl is still loaded and conflicting for sure.
[03:32] <surio> modprobe -r wl ??
[03:32] <varunendra> tofa, I'd recomend torrent for download
[03:33] <varunendra> surio, yes "sudo modprobe -rfv wl"
[03:33] <varunendra> surio, did it finish successfully? The modprobe -rfv wl
[03:33] <d4gg3r> tofa, does it show the similarities? is there any way
[03:33] <d4gg3r> ?
[03:33] <tofa> varunendra, I use unetbootin to create the usb is that fine for ubuntu or should I use something else?
[03:33] <surio> varunendra, "FATAL: Module wl not found." o_O now what?
[03:34] <surio> tofa, unetbootin is fine
[03:34] <varunendra> tofa, unetbootin or anything that works is fine.
[03:34] <varunendra> surio, just reboot then.. :/
[03:34] <surio> tofa use a different usb?
[03:35] <tofa> d4gg3r, I haven't used it for a long while but I remember it being good.
[03:35] <surio> sometimes flash mem corruption is not detcted
[03:35] <varunendra> tofa, surio, as long as the usb is able to boot, it is fine too.
[03:36] <surio> varunendra, I have helped people on crunchbang, with a booting usb that borks the install.. Changing the USB helps, and a subsequent disk probe reveals errors
[03:36] <surio> hence the suggestion :-)
[03:36] <varunendra> surio, wait..
[03:36] <varunendra> reboot is not required
[03:36] <surio> still here :)
[03:36] <surio> was typing that response ;)
[03:36] <surio> so, let's go?
[03:37] <varunendra> surio, try - "sudo ifconfig eth2 down"
[03:37] <surio> man, right now eth is the only way I am communicating here
[03:37] <surio> nothing on console
[03:38] <surio> command executed though
[03:38] <varunendra> surio, then - "sudo modprobe -rfv brcmsmac" .... then ... "sudo modprobe -v brcmsmac" (eth2 is in your iwconfig, maybe that's why wl is still loaded)
[03:39] <varunendra> surio, our target here is to unload wl (it shouldn't appear in lsmod), THEN load brcmsmac
[03:39] <surio> lsmod >> "wl                   3074942  0 " still there :(
[03:40] <surio> and wireless still won't blinking connect
[03:40] <varunendra> surio, assuming "bcmwl-kernel-source" is purged, just reboot :(
[03:41] <varunendra> surio, as a side note, you should get rid of TKIP in the router.
[03:41] <surio> le sigh!
[03:41] <surio> what's that?
[03:41] <surio> let's do it now... shall I open <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[03:42] <varunendra> surio, pure WPA2-PSK (AES) is recommended. TKIP is the encryption method, which is outdated and doesn't work well with linux.
[03:42] <surio> oh... wep
[03:42] <surio> yes, yes.. it is on the cards :)
[03:42] <surio> The ISP provider set it up like that
[03:43] <surio> After I get it working, I will update these...
[03:43] <varunendra> surio, no wep, no wpa/wpa2 mixed mode, .... pure wpa2 with AES instead on TKIP
[03:43] <varunendra> :)
[03:43] <tofa> wilee-nilee, I've made a new usb with a new iso on a new flash drive and have booted into the system. Can you take me through the install so this boot problem goes away?
[03:43] <surio> I understand. I will definitely do it over the weekend. okay see you in a bit :)
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Did you save home?
[03:44] <tofa> wilee-nilee, /home is on a seperate partition.
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> tofa, I have never separated home, so I'm not sure there to be honest.
[03:45] <tofa> wilee-nilee, ok thanks.
[03:45] <varunendra> tofa, just goto manual partitioning mode and don't tell the installer that you have a separate /home. You can configure it later if required.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> tofa, My brain is about the size of a walnut I keep it really simple. ;)
[03:46] <varunendra> lol !!
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> me and homer simpson yah know
[03:46] <tofa> wilee-nilee, :)
[03:47] <xmetal> hmm
[03:48] <surio> varunendra, nope! There is no wl in lsmod, but the blinking thing still won't connect!
[03:49] <varunendra> surio, is brcmsmac loaded now? Output of - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 net"
[03:49] <varunendra> and lsmod
[03:49] <xmetal> having issue with a "fork os" (no one ever seems to be talking in their room) ... boots liveUSb (That i know works 100%) to the point where it starts scrolling fast and (?? @ my way of explaining) shows a gray BG and shows the cursor (never response) and just "sits there"
[03:49] <surio> on lsmod, sure brcmsmac is shown
[03:49] <xmetal> searching the web now
[03:50] <tofa> wilee-nilee, installer is installing.
[03:50] <varunendra> surio, does it scan the network? (sudo iwlist scan)
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> cool
[03:51] <xmetal> on the pc that is having issues with this liveusb, i am going to see if i can run the liveusb is "graphics safe" mode
[03:51] <xmetal> (may be wrong terms to say it i know)
[03:52] <surio> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913515/    output from scan is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913517/
[03:53] <surio> tl;dr    it scans
[03:53] <metbsd> how to install ubuntu to my android phone
[03:54] <wilee-nilee> !#ubuntu_touch | metbsd
[03:54] <surio> ??
[03:54] <wilee-nilee>  !ubuntu_touch | metbsd
[03:55] <metbsd> ?
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> Yeah
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> was up
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> !touch | metbsd
[03:55] <varunendra> surio, sorry, was lost a bit... taking a look
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> where do I found the kernel-headers?
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> metbsd, Sorry that is your channel.
[03:55] <nate15329> i have a 13.04 server that hangs on pci_bus root resource mem x28-fcffffffffff; i recently had bad memory removed any ideas?
[03:55] <surio> varunendra,  the wireless icon on my ubuntu taskbar is constantly "scanning" and then "Wireless network disconnected"ing
[03:55] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> some tip?
[03:56] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress
[03:56] <chamunks> Compn, Any experience with icecast?
[03:56] <complearning123> i need some help
[03:56] <varunendra> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5, "sudo apt-get install liunx-headers-generic"
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> KOOL!!
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> THANKS
[03:56] <complearning123> pls
[03:56] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> lets try
[03:56] <varunendra> np :)
[03:56] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress, what to do now how to fix it?
[03:56] <tofa> wilee-nilee, seems the other usb was broken.
[03:57] <complearning123> im brand new to this chat and to ubuntu
[03:57] <varunendra> surio, what does this show - "apt-cache show bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version" ?
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Ah, you running now?
[03:57] <complearning123> and i need some help
[03:57] <QTPieMan> its while i am trying to upload a file
[03:57] <varunendra> tofa, all good now ??
[03:57] <QTPieMan> or adding a plugin
[03:57] <QTPieMan> anybody to help atleast?
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> oh no
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> Package linux-headers-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> is only available from another source
[03:57] <FloodBot1> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> sorry
[03:57] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> ok
[03:57] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, Cool, just state the issue for help.
[03:58] <surio> varunendra,   "Version: <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu0.0.1
[03:58] <surio> Version: <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[03:58] <surio> "
[03:58] <QTPieMan> varunendra, can u help me?
[03:58] <complearning123> ok
[03:58] <tofa> wilee-nilee, IT'S BOOTABLE!!!! Thank you so much for your help. It was a broken install :P. THANKS!
[03:59] <varunendra> surio, as a fallback we can try installing the older version, which has been proven to be better than the 6xx version.
[03:59] <complearning123> i installed ubuntu 10.04 then  upgraded to latest version now i cannot open ubuntu
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Cool great news. ;)
[03:59] <complearning123> the grub loader shows it but the files are messed up
[04:00] <surio> varunendra, I'm ready... Let's go
[04:00] <complearning123> and i dont know the commands to fix it
[04:00] <surio> Bu how?
[04:00] <QTPieMan> ikonia, can u plz help me?
[04:00] <tofa> wilee-nilee, Ubuntu is hard. I'm going back to gentoo :P.
[04:00] <tofa> Thanks guys.
[04:00] <wilee-nilee> tofa, Heh, that is funny. ;)
[04:01] <varunendra> surio, please do - "sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source=<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6"
[04:01] <QTPieMan> hello i am always getting "Could not create directory" in wordpress, while uploading file or adding plugin etc, how to fix this?
[04:01] <complearning123> can anyone help me
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> oh yeah
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> i found the kernel headers!
[04:02] <surio> varunendra, chugging away....
[04:02] <MOD5RN_W4RFAR5> 55Mb
[04:02] <varunendra> QTPieMan, if that is the problem, then sorry, I'm of no help :(
[04:02] <surio> choo choo :P
[04:02] <varunendra> surio, what ?
[04:02] <QTPieMan> varunendra, ok
[04:02] <QTPieMan> running apache server btw
[04:03] <complearning123> guess not okay thanks anyway
[04:03] <complearning123> bye
[04:03] <chamunks> MOD5RN_W4RFAR5, I really hate your irc name
[04:03] <chamunks> its so long I cant shrink my ychat window
[04:04] <complearning123> is there a chat where i can get help with ubuntu
[04:04] <complearning123> or a forum
[04:04] <complearning123> does anyone know
[04:04] <surio> installing, varunendra :)
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, Try #ubuntu
[04:04] <complearning123> i was told to come here
[04:04] <varunendra> !ask | complearning123
[04:04] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, ?? LOL
[04:04] <complearning123> i thought this was #ubuntu
[04:04] <surio> complearning123, just type your question...
[04:05] <clue_h> complearning123, or http://ubuntuforums.org cache
[04:05] <QTPieMan> varunendra, can u tell me do i need some special permission for server?
[04:05] <surio> complearning123, just type your question...
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, ;)
[04:05] <complearning123> you really make a guy feel welcome
[04:05] <bberrymerry> can i post a question?
[04:05] <clue_h> no
[04:05] <QTPieMan> clue_h, ubuntu forum is no more -_-
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, You have to have some patience you are welcome here. ;)
[04:06] <surio> complearning123, please... just type the question, bberrymerry same for you too :)
[04:06] <clue_h> complearning123, i am all ears too
[04:06] <clue_h> so to speak
[04:06] <varunendra> QTPieMan, I never dealt with a server, but what kind of permissions and where ? Maybe ask to the channel instead of individuals..
[04:06] <complearning123> i installed ubuntu 10.04 then upgraded to latest version of ubuntu and now i cannot open ubuntu....says that the files are bad
[04:06] <bberrymerry> any way to speed up ubuntu 13.04 guest booting in virtual box? i switched to xfce4, it still takes a long time to boot
[04:07] <complearning123> what can i do
[04:07] <clue_h> QTPieMan, true but the cached pages can be accessed :]
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, You might just consider install 12.04 if that is what you mean by latest if this is a fresh install upgraded.
[04:07] <QTPieMan> clue_h, great idea
[04:07] <surio> varunendra, First I got some error, and when I clicked "show details" the whole thing crashed
[04:08] <varunendra> surio, so you're on a reboot now?
[04:08] <QTPieMan> varunendra, i mean lets say while uplpading a file or adding a file its not working
[04:08] <surio> not really... the crash gen application crashed!
[04:08] <clue_h> complearning123, a fresh install of 12,04 lts.
[04:08] <surio> retyped the command, and gor
[04:08] <surio> retyped the command, and got
[04:08] <surio> "surio@surio-pc:~$ sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source=<IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[04:08] <surio> Reading package lists... Done
[04:08] <surio> Building dependency tree
[04:08] <surio> Reading state information... Done
[04:08] <surio> bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version.
[04:08] <FloodBot1> surio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> complearning123, trying to find what the bad files means may be pointless and a waste of time.
[04:08] <complearning123> cant i use the command e2fsck to fix files
[04:08] <xmetal> i need to figure out the way to get this liveusb to ast least try to boot in "low graphics mode"
[04:08] <complearning123> and exactly what is the format
[04:09] <surio> whoops
[04:09] <surio> sorry
[04:09] <surio> Thought it would go on single line (4 lines only)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> surio, You familiar with pastebin?
[04:09] <surio> ya ya..
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[04:09] <varunendra> surio, what does "dpkg -s bcmwl-kernel-source | grep -i version" show?
[04:09] <varunendra> then use it.. ;)
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> the bits are mean they just don't care
[04:09] <surio> I thought they will line up inline :P
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> bots*
[04:10] <surio> thanks smarties... like I don't know :P
[04:10] <surio> varunendra,  "Version: <IP_ADDRESS>+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[04:10] <surio> "
[04:11] <surio> so we've rolled back?
[04:11] <complearning123> ok bye guys thanx
[04:11] <surio> varunendra, I reconnected, and it connected!
[04:11] <varunendra> surio, yeah now you are back to the wl driver, only the older version... how does it work?
[04:11] <surio> complearning123, you solved?
[04:11] <complearning123> no
[04:12] <AssFeverz> hi
[04:12] <varunendra> let's see if it stays connected.. surio
[04:12] <surio> complearning123,  The point is an upgrade from 10 to 12 is fraught with failure...
[04:12] <complearning123> i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu 10.04
[04:12] <surio> It is far better to reinstall 12.04
[04:12] <varunendra> complearning123, do you have anything important to save on the installation? If not, just do a fresh install of 12.04
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> offensive nicks are usually a pre-cursor to troubles
[04:13] <surio> complearning123, please don't go back 10 10.04... no londer supported and things will fail badly
[04:13] <complearning123> i have 10.04 disk  but not 12,04 and it takes forever to dl it
[04:13] <Compn> chamunks : icecast? like 10 years ago. and only with winamp, on windows. i'm not sure if icecast is the current way to do it, looks kind of outdated now. check http://www.shoutcast.com/broadcast-tools
[04:13] <chamunks> icecast2 seemed like the deal
[04:13] <complearning123> ok ill try and dl 12.04
[04:13] <chamunks> its aptgettable.
[04:13] <complearning123> thanx
[04:13] <surio> complearning123, not so bad is it... I am on a slow connection myself and the thing downloaded in a few hours max
[04:14] <complearning123> yeah youre right surio
[04:14] <varunendra> complearning123, an upgrade will download almost the same amount of data..
[04:14] <complearning123> that upgrade screwed me up
[04:14] <surio> it's worth it.... and you're hassle free until 2017
[04:14] <varunendra> complearning123, use torrent for downloading
[04:14] <complearning123> right thanks guys
[04:14] <complearning123> cant my isp blocks it
[04:14] <varunendra> :(
[04:14] <surio> complearning123, it is a known fact... 10 to 12 is rarely if ever, successful
[04:15] <complearning123> well  now i dont feel so dumb
[04:15] <complearning123> i thought i did something wrong
[04:15] <medubuntu> Empathy doesn't show all notifications(ubuntu 13.04)
[04:15] <surio> relax... don't do it.. frankie goes to hollywood :P
[04:15] <chamunks> Compn, is icecast itself not a relay?
[04:15] <chamunks> one of my associates is having a meltdown over this question.
[04:16] <surio> Right, ciao for now... thanks varunendra :)
[04:16] <Compn> chamunks : oh you want like a 3rd party to host the radio for you ?
[04:16] <varunendra> surio, np :)
[04:16] <Compn> host the stream
[04:16] <surio> I feel a little idiotic rolling back to older versions... varunendra
[04:16] <chamunks> Compn, nah we've got a crappy little 5$ vps somewhere on ubuntu
[04:16]  * holstein used to run an icecast server
[04:16] <Compn> ask holstein :)
[04:16]  * Compn cant remember for crap
[04:17] <complearning123> okay roomies thanks alot ill dl 12.04 have a great weekend everyone
[04:17] <varunendra> surio, we deviced that workaround after a lot of testing..
[04:17] <surio> I mean, on my next apt-get upgrade, are we not going to roll back to the new driver again?
[04:17] <medubuntu> Empathy doesn't show all notifications
[04:17] <chamunks> holstein,  we're just trying to send our audio to the icecast server then have that bounce off to the clients
[04:17] <chamunks> how ever that happens.
[04:17] <yuanjie> hello
[04:17] <surio> complearning123, byeee...
[04:17] <complearning123> au revoir surio
[04:17] <holstein> medubuntu: what is it that you want it to show, specificially? without repeating the same question, please
[04:18] <varunendra> surio, in fact there is a way in apt to "PIN" a version if you don't want to upgrade it (see "man apt_preferences")
[04:18] <surio> bberrymerry, I tink in general Vbox is slow... because of the layers
[04:18] <yuanjie> who can help me ? i can't use ubuntu
[04:18] <medubuntu> In 13.04, Empathy doesn't show all the bubble notifications and it can't be configured. In the preferences, I can only configure sounds notifications but not visuals. Empathy only shows bubble notifications when someone sends me a message, but not when someone gets connected or disconnected (in these cases I can hear a sound but without a bubble). ¿Is there a way to turn all the notifications on?
[04:18] <holstein> chamunks: it happens like this.. the users connect with a player, or in the browser.. you connect with a client to the server to stream whatever
[04:19] <holstein> chamunks: depending on what you are streaming would dictate the client i would suggest
[04:19] <bberrymerry> surio: much faster with 11.04 and 12.04
[04:19] <holstein> !info idjc
[04:19] <surio> varunendra, I have made a note, but my main motivation for installing 12.04.2 is from the LTS aspect
[04:19] <bberrymerry> surio: i disabled unity,  it's still slow to boot and run
[04:19] <chamunks> holstein, well we're looking to basically do a 24/7 stream of whatever including some apparently live broadcasts of our teamspeak banter.
[04:19] <surio> bberrymerry, sorry, for some reason, my VBoxes are all slow, hence my remark.. and I sort of lived with it :)
[04:19] <yuanjie> who can help me ?
[04:19] <holstein> !ask | yuanjie
[04:20] <varunendra> surio, unless you "PIN" this version, it will again get upgraded to version 6... while updating, which is no good. In 13.04 or 14.04, the native brcmsmac is good enough.
[04:20] <surio> yuanjie, type your question!
[04:20] <chamunks> yuanjie, only those who have the answer to the question for which you have not asked yet.
[04:20] <bberrymerry> maybe i'll try a xubuntu install instead, instead of ubuntu
[04:20] <surio> varunendra, the next LTS is 14.04 ?
[04:20] <varunendra> yes
[04:20] <holstein> bberrymerry: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. try it
[04:20] <yuanjie> yes
[04:20] <surio> varunendra, you are running 13?
[04:21] <yuanjie> i can't use ubuntu  who can teach me
[04:21] <surio> yuanjie, this is not a tutorial class, we help you with "specific" problems.. :)
[04:21] <holstein> !install | yuanjie
[04:21] <varunendra> surio, 12.04, but mine is an atheros card, not broadcom :)
[04:21] <yuanjie> i have learn english one month
[04:21] <chamunks> holstein, what would you imagine.  Some of us are using windows and such but I think that we managed to configure the icecast.xml in /etc/icecast2/
[04:22] <holstein> yuanjie: if you dont want to, or dont know how to install, just run it live
[04:22] <surio> varunendra, :( well, lucky you!
[04:22] <yuanjie> yes ! holstein
[04:22] <holstein> chamunks: i wouldnt imagine anything.. i would just confirm the server works with a client such as the one i just linked
[04:22] <surio> okay varunendra I will look into pinning it on version 5
[04:22] <medubuntu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/291155/empathy-doesnt-show-all-notifications
[04:22] <yuanjie> i can't install any software
[04:22] <chamunks> holstein, wait a sec where now?
[04:23] <holstein> chamunks: this is the simple tool i used to use http://butt.sourceforge.net/
[04:23] <varunendra> surio, I don't even have wireless networks around to test.... any modifications to your "lucky" comment now ;P
[04:23] <holstein> !info idjc
[04:23] <yuanjie> thank you !
[04:23] <holstein> ^^ chamunks, that is anothiner
[04:23] <holstein> another*
[04:23] <yuanjie> i have learned !
[04:23] <chamunks> holstein, right thank you I found butt on a youboob video
[04:23] <holstein> chamunks: there are other options such as darkice that use JACK, but i would consider that overkill for your purposes
[04:24] <Anaxandridas> Hi, guys, total noob here. Is Ubuntu particularly well suited to running VMs of significant size in it?  I don't know WHY it's a stupid question, which is why I'm asking :D
[04:25] <Anaxandridas> Can you elaborate?
[04:25] <clue_h> You're already using processor time and  memory to create and run a vm
[04:25] <medubuntu> :/
[04:25] <holstein> Anaxandridas: not really.. the performance is not acceptable on my, or most hardware to host a virtual instance of an operating system for gaming
[04:25] <chamunks> holstein, seems we're having issues
[04:26] <yuanjie> 有人懂中文吗
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: sure.. and you really dont know where
[04:26] <chamunks> may I PM you some details if you could maybe ping it yourself?
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: what would i do? create one locally.. remove variables and test
[04:26] <chamunks> or I could pastebin our XML to see what can be done of course sanitized
[04:26] <holstein> chamunks: sure
[04:26] <chamunks> just so someone with eyes for this may be able to assist.
[04:27] <holstein> chamunks: you may query me
[04:28] <nathanbz> why is /etc/sysctl.conf missing on a fresh 12.04 install ?
[04:28] <medubuntu> :( not solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/291155/empathy-doesnt-show-all-notifications
[04:28] <holstein> medubuntu: what *specifically* are you trying to see?
[04:29] <bberrymerry> holstein: just wondering if xubuntu loads less services on startup compared to stock ubuntu, so it should load faster
[04:29] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: i use OS X as a host, multiple ubuntu VMs for servers
[04:30] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: no problems at all if you run a server instance, but ubuntu desktop in a vm is a bit slow
[04:30] <Anaxandridas> I'll be using Ubuntu as a host, I have no use for servers or anything like that.
[04:30] <holstein> bberrymerry: the reason to choose xubuntu is for xubuntu. xfce, the look and feel. the default applications
[04:30] <holstein> bberrymerry: it should seem faster, but at the end of it all, its still the same hardware
[04:30] <Anaxandridas> More like... Let's say if someone (hypothetically speaking) played a lot of torrented games. I figured maybe having a VM in which they played all those games, then just regularly wiping it, would be the most expedient solution to exploitations.
[04:30] <nathanbz> anyone ?
[04:31] <holstein> Anaxandridas: torrented games?
[04:31] <holstein> Anaxandridas: dont run "unsafe" games.. in VM or on metal
[04:31] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: windows games run badly in a vm :)
[04:31] <Anaxandridas> holstein, not entirely sure what the question there was.
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: games in general dont run well in VM
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> Also, I just accidentally closed the channel :P
[04:32] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: you need direct access to the hardware to get good 3d gaming performance, otherwise it's too slow
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: try it and see
[04:32] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: old point and click games are ok though
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> holstein, tried it with Windows XP before, didn't work. I'll take your word on it.
[04:32] <holstein> Anaxandridas: all i said was, dont run "unsafe" games at all.. in VM or otherwise
[04:32] <Anaxandridas> holstein, so the best advice would be... Have a completely different computer for "unsafe" games?
[04:32] <medubuntu> holstein
[04:32] <medubuntu> if new contacts entered Empathy doesn't show notifications
[04:33] <holstein> medubuntu: its not supposed to.. i would file a bug with empathy if you feel its a bug
[04:33] <holstein> medubuntu: have you found an empathy support venue?
[04:34] <holstein> medubuntu: https://wiki.gnome.org/Empathy#Contact_Information is where i would start..
[04:34] <bberrymerry> Anaxandridas: if you could image an existing windows partition, then you could use that... just wipe it and re-install the image if you get infected
[04:35] <Anaxandridas> Image an existing windows partition... ?
[04:35] <Anaxandridas> I'm sorry, bberrymerry, I'm REALLY noob.
[04:35] <medubuntu> holstein
[04:35] <medubuntu> thanks very much :)
[04:35] <yalex> hello how can i export a list of installed packages in ubuntu 12.04?
[04:36] <chamunks> holstein, my irc client pooed so I switched to something else.
[04:36] <holstein> Anaxandridas: you "clone" the "good" system.. experience an error, and revert to the saved clone
[04:36] <holstein> Anaxandridas: this would be arguably good practice for any OS
[04:36] <bberrymerry> image, as in make an exact partition copy of it... i don't know if there are any open source solutions, for commercial there's stuff like pqmagic or ghost
[04:37] <bberrymerry> any good open source cloning/imaging programs? that can handle ntfs
[04:38] <holstein> bberrymerry: "good" is a matter of opinion.. i like using clonezilla live
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> yalex: like backping up favorite packages?
[04:38] <yalex> yes lotuspsychje , need a list of all installed packages
[04:38] <bberrymerry> holstein: good as in reliable for cloning ntfs
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | yalex
[04:39] <yalex> ubottu, its a server so there's no gui
[04:39] <mike16112> Finally, A xchat server with someone talking for once
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> yalex: oh then i think you might wanna man dpkg
[04:40] <holstein> bberrymerry: i still stand by my recommendation
[04:43] <glebihan> yalex, dpkg-query -l | grep "ii "       will list all installed packages          dpkg --get-selections       will list the ones that were manually installed
[04:44] <dex> hey guys
[04:45] <dex> when the heck the forum is going to be normal?
[04:45] <yalex> thanks glebihan  how can i use dpkg to export all installed packages to use on another machine to install them?
[04:45] <dex> I'm really sick of ending up at maintenance page after seeking solutions thru google
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> dex: plz keep it polite in here
[04:46] <glebihan> !clone | yalex
[04:46] <dex> ok
[04:46] <dex> but i'm really tired of it
[04:46] <dex> got stuck for a week
[04:46] <dex> for one single driver
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> dex: instead of complaining, re-ask your issue here once in a while
[04:46] <dex> ok
[04:47] <dex> displaylink driver, anyone have solution?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !details | dex
[04:47] <dex> apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is supposed to be working, but it says "unable to locate the package"
[04:47] <dex> i'm on 12.04
[04:48] <holstein> !info xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:49] <dex> and all the driver package or source codes have some sort of error in here or there
[04:49] <holstein> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:49]  * xmetal taking a break from liveusb issue
[04:49] <holstein> dex: you'll need to share the errors
[04:50] <dex> well I tried that page holstein, thanks but it didn't work, i will check how it didn't work
[04:50] <sh0ck> What drivers do I need for Nvidia GeForce 6150SW nForce 430, searched but can't find the answer
[04:50] <holstein> dex: its right in my sources here in 12.04
[04:50] <sh0ck> 6150SE I meant
[04:51] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:51] <holstein> dex: ^^ and share *exact* errors
[04:51] <dex> that didn't work either T_T
[04:51] <dex> ok
[04:51] <holstein> !nvidea
[04:51] <holstein> !nvidia | sh0ck
[04:51] <sh0ck> i'm actually on arch
[04:52] <dex> dex: hmm
[04:52] <holstein> !arch
[04:52] <holstein> !archlinux
[04:52] <holstein> sh0ck: you'll need to be running ubuntu to use the drivers from the ubuntu repos
[04:53] <dex> U
[04:53] <glebihan> sh0ck, how about asking in #archlinux instead of here then ?
[04:53] <dex> npacking xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (from .../xserver-xorg-video-displaylink_0.3-0ubuntu4_i386 (1).deb) ...
[04:53] <dex> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of xserver-xorg-video-displaylink:
[04:53] <dex>  xserver-xorg-core (2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6.2) breaks xserver-xorg-video-6 and is installed.
[04:53] <dex>   xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (0.3-0ubuntu4) provides xserver-xorg-video-6.
[04:53] <dex> dpkg: error processing xserver-xorg-video-displaylink (--install):
[04:53] <FloodBot1> dex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <dex>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:54] <sh0ck> Okay, sorry to have disturbed you ubuntu fellas.
[04:54] <dex> that''s the error message i got from installation
[04:54] <dex> holstein: hello
[04:56] <holstein> dex: it installed for me, without error.. ubuntu 12.04
[04:56] <holstein> dex: do you have any graphic related PPA's?
[04:56] <dfdgdfdg> Hi there , How do I get virtualbox to pick up my xmodmap keys ?
[04:58] <holstein> dex: holstein@aphrodite:~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:58] <holstein> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <holstein> Building dependency tree
[04:58] <holstein> Reading state information... Done
[04:58] <holstein> The following NEW packages will be installed: xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:58] <holstein> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:58] <FloodBot1> holstein: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:01] <glebihan> dex, please post the full output of your command on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[05:01] <holstein> like i tried to do ;)
[05:02] <scootypuff> has anyone tried using wps office (the ms office clone)?
[05:02] <holstein> scootypuff: i use libreoffic or google docs
[05:02]  * varunendra chuckles at holstein having fun with the bot.. ;)
[05:07] <dex>  xserver-xorg-core : Breaks: xserver-xorg-video-6
[05:07] <dex> does this mean something?
[05:10] <ProChild> hey
[05:10] <varunendra> dex, it means it will replace that 'breaking' package and will install itself in its place.
[05:10] <ProChild> is there like different version of ubuntu
[05:11] <ProChild> i need a pre setup ubuntu that has all the tools for stuff like packet sniffers and debbugers
[05:11] <ProChild> a hackers tool book sort of
[05:11] <dex> hey bot
[05:11] <dex> how can i paste image
[05:12] <xmetal> wouldn't it just be easier to use BackTrace?
[05:12] <xmetal> er backtrack i
[05:12] <varunendra> ProChild, there are derivatives like that, nothing in Ubuntu itself. Check out #backtrack and kali-linux
[05:12] <xmetal> (or did i have it right the first time?)
[05:12] <glebihan> dex, you don't need to poste an image, you only need to paste the output of your command on http://paste.ubuntu.com , as already asked for
[05:14] <dex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913661/
[05:14] <dex> this is the result
[05:14] <dex> some are repeated
[05:15] <glebihan> dex, didn't you say you were running 12.04 ?
[05:15] <dex> i think i do
[05:15] <dex> how can i know it
[05:15] <glebihan> dex, in terminal : lsb_release -a
[05:15] <dex> until now i think i run on 12.04
[05:16] <dex> woops
[05:16] <dex> it's 12.10
[05:16] <dex> does that change something?
[05:17] <glebihan> dex, it does, the package you're trying to install does not exist in 12.10, hence the errors
[05:17] <dex> ah.. why...
[05:17] <dex> why later version doesn't support it
[05:17] <dex> should i downgrade to 12.04
[05:19] <redwarriors29> how to install thunderbird in ubuntu
[05:19] <nate15329> ok...i have a pci_root PNP0A03:00: fail to add MMConfig information and then it hangs on pci_bus resource mem...any ideas?
[05:20] <dex> 12.10 why you don't have displayLink~~~!
[05:20] <varunendra> redwarriors29, which version of Ubuntu? The currently supported ones already have it preinstalled.
[05:21] <glebihan> dex, I don't know. My guess would be that it's supported via another package or default in the kernel, but I cna't find any relevant info
[05:22] <redwarriors29> 10.04
[05:22] <Hexagonite> Anyone know a light Ubuntu distro besides Lubuntu and Xubuntu?
[05:23] <wrvtta> Linux Mint is good
[05:23] <Hexagonite> still bloated though. :(
[05:25] <Fishscene> With or without GUI? Ubuntu server is fairly lightweight
[05:25] <Hexagonite> with GUI, of course
[05:26] <bberrymerry> something for development? i'm looking for a lightweight distro for ARM devel
[05:26] <Hexagonite> elementaryOS looks great, but it's based on Ubuntu 12.04
[05:30] <redwarriors30> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:30] <redwarriors30> root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ# sudo apt-get updateE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ# sudo apt-get update --fix-missing E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory root@ba-educ-desktop:/home/ba_educ#
[05:30] <redwarriors30> how can i fix it
[05:31] <dex> dependency is not satisfiable : xorg-video-abi-11
[05:32] <dex> when installing xserver-xorg-video-displaylink for 12.10
[05:32] <dex> why my xserver-xorg-core doesn't have that dependency?
[05:33] <dex> error after error , one error solved, another error stand in its way,
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> redwarriors30, This 10.04 desktop, and why are you in root if so?
[05:36] <we6jbo> I got a question
[05:39] <bong> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:39] <dfdgdfdg> !ask we6jbo
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> bong, this the desktop version and were you redwarriors30?
[05:40] <bong> im frm phils
[05:40] <bong> i cant install thunderbird in ubuntu 10.04
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !10.04 | bong
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> !eol | bong
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> bong, If you can answer questions the channel may be able to help. ;)
[05:43] <bong> so how can i installl this
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> bong, Are you running in root oe just trying to install from it in the terminal?
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> or*
[05:44] <bong> im in root right now
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> bong, In the terminal with a command?
[05:44] <bong> yes im i was trying to install in terminal
[05:44] <bong> apt-get install thunderbird
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> bong, You don't want to root the terminal to install.
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> use sudo
[05:45] <bong> and how
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> bong, 10.04 is end of life if you can't get it it may be to no access to the repos, can you run cat /etc/apt/sources.list and pastebin it?
[05:46] <dex> hey guys
[05:46] <dex> how do i know which desktop I run?
[05:46] <bong> ok how to pastebin
[05:46] <dex> in terminal which command lets me know what desktop i do?
[05:46] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | bong
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> dex, What did you choose at login
[05:47] <bong> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913742/
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> bong, Have you run a sudo apt-get update in the terminal not in root?
[05:49] <bong> yes
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> bong, Thunderbird is in a stock install did you remove it?
[05:51] <bong> where is that
[05:51] <bong> nope
[05:51] <bong> where i can find it
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> bong, Should be in the menu, I have not used gnome 2 in a long time, so I don't remember the exact place.
[05:52] <bong> theres nothing thunderbird here
[05:53] <bong> i download thunder but it is in tar
[05:53] <bong> how can i install this
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> bong, try thunderbird in the terminal
[05:53] <bong> what comman
[05:53] <bong> what command
[05:53] <wilee-nilee> just thunderbird
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> if it is installed it will show bong
[05:55] <bong> it cant
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> bong, So why do you need to run 10.04 it is end of life?
[05:56] <bong> my computer cant support new version of linux
[05:56] <cfhowlett> bong, xubuntu and lubuntu are optimized for older machines.
[05:58] <bong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913770/
[05:59] <cfhowlett> bong, recommend you torrent 12.04 xubuntu or lubuntu, make an install usb/cd and test it.  You might just be pleasantly surprised.
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> bong, I suspect since you are end of life the regular repos are not accessible.
[06:01] <vino> I have a program that's not able make a connection and i want to see if i have a firewall on. how do i look at my firewall settings on 12.04?
[06:02] <cfhowlett> !firewall|Vino,
[06:03] <Vino> does "status: inactive" mean I'm not blocking any ports?
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> Vino, You might name the program.
[06:04] <Vino> Steam for Linux
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> never used it myself
[06:15] <FreeBuntu> Hi there..., anybody with some background.... is willing to help for free ?.....I just finished installing "Ubuntu 10.4(Lucid Lynx)" and want to create a dual boot system with "FreeBSD 5".....you know,  "FreeBSD 5" is not being recognized as an bootable OS..., so how do i manage ?
[06:16] <cfhowlett> FreeBuntu 10.04 desktop is end of life.
[06:17] <SMB> .
[06:22] <santhosh> hai how to install .exe file in linux woth out wine is there ant alternative software for that ine
[06:24] <cfhowlett> santhosh, windows files run in windows.  wine provides a layer to emulate a windows environment.  No emulator, no install.
[06:24] <DuncanNZ> Can I use the `command-not-found` program (which suggests a package to install if you type a command from a package not installed) on zsh? It works already on bash.
[06:25] <santhosh> is there any similar software like a wine to create layer like windows
[06:26] <cfhowlett> santhosh, look in the software center.  some reason you can't use wine?
[06:26] <nate15329> santhosh, try using letsplayonlinux (it runs on wine but more configurable and user friendlier)
[06:27] <cfhowlett> santhosh, perhaps install windows inside a virtualbox and run your program there.
[06:27] <santhosh> but dot net frameworks are installed on playon linux
[06:28] <santhosh> no <cfhowlett> i have software on windows i want to migrate in linux in that case iam asking
[06:29] <cfhowlett> santhosh, you know how Apple progams don't run natively on anything except Apple?  Same rule applies.
[06:30] <santhosh> so im not install .netframeworks in linux is there any soluation for install .netframework
[06:30] <nate15329> dot net frameworks are supported, i believe. may have to tell it to use the mono project...its been a while since i used playonlinux
[06:30] <situ> Is there a way to avoid routing all traffic through VPN after a user connects to VPN ?
[06:31] <nate15329> mono project is the closest thing to the .net framework in linux
[06:32] <sophie_> Does Ubuntu still use Xorg?
[06:32] <santhosh> i install mono project but can,t install .netframework
[06:34] <cfhowlett> santhosh, what program are you hoping to install
[06:35] <santhosh> secure view for office cam
[06:36] <cfhowlett> santhosh, don't get your hopes up.  Pretty sure there are some open source alternatives available.
[06:36] <santhosh> my company using that one on windows i want to change it in ti linux
[06:37] <cfhowlett> santhosh, virtualbox>windows>secureview
[06:38] <sophie_> Virtualbox is what I'd do unless a program needed 3D acceleration.
[06:38] <santhosh> ok good idea thanks for that
[06:38] <santhosh> but direct linux is not possible
[06:38] <nate15329> i agree with cfhowlett..and virtualbox has the ability to do 3D acceleration...just not much of it
[06:39] <sophie_> Getting program to work with WINE is often a pain.
[06:44] <baby> hello
[06:47] <Zespre> chihhsin: Hi
[06:48] <baby> hola
[06:48] <lauratika> im running 12.04, how can i know if i have full disk encryption?, i know i encrypted my home folder.
[06:49] <wooter> lauratika: plugging the hard drive into a different computer with linux running...see if the data is visible
[06:50] <dex> hello guys
[06:50] <dex> how to upgrade from 12.10 to latest one from terminal?
[06:50] <dex> which command lets me do that task?
[06:50] <babinlonston> lauratika:use command tune2fs -l /dev/sda
[06:50] <lauratika> wooter: can do that
[06:51] <lauratika> babinlonston: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda
[06:51] <wooter> try elevate privilege
[06:52] <babinlonston> lauratika: use sudo  ------>    sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
[06:52] <lauratika>  Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda
[06:52] <lauratika> Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[06:53] <wooter> even loading a live ubuntu cd on that computer, see if you can mount the hdd and read data
[06:55] <babinlonston> lauratika: first check your partitions by using tune2fs -l /dev/sda1    and for sda2 u ill get all info about your  partitions
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> dex: i'm searching now but i think it's 'do-release-upgrade' i'll need to checj though
[06:56] <newbie008> is there a tablet that runs ubuntu or linux? All features without chroot?
[06:56] <babinlonston> lauratika: use sudo if ur not in Privileged User
[06:57] <paul_> Seems like there was a tablet announce at OMGUbuntu site last year that had Kubuntu, you might find it in their old articles
[06:58] <lauratika> babinlonston: only sda3 and sda6 gives outputs
[06:58] <newbie008> paul_ sounds out of date and underpowered..
[06:59] <sophie_> How much proprietary software makes up the code of Ubuntu nowadays? (Minus the third party stuff that's an optional install).
[06:59] <aeon-ltd> isn't ubuntu on arm limited on applications use? aswell as flash, so it's functionality is a little less than a standard android tablet
[06:59] <babinlonston> lauratika: check how many partitions are there mounted df -h
[06:59] <newbie008> paul_ I take that back
[07:02] <lauratika> babinlonston: odd just 2 partitions mounted
[07:05] <MiteshShah> ed command not found , which package provide ed command
[07:05] <MiteshShah> and how to search
[07:05] <babinlonston> lauratika: have a lot at my output from tune2fs http://pastebin.com/GaVKSPFE
[07:06] <MiteshShah> and how to search for packge which provide that command
[07:06] <babinlonston> lauratika:  check the line Filesystem features:      has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize , if there is Encrypted mentiond ur Partition is Encrypted
[07:06] <auronandace> !info ed | MiteshShah
[07:06] <xormor> MiteshShah: apt-cache search package-or-program-name
[07:07] <lauratika>  sudo mount -a
[07:07] <lauratika> i try mount: mount point 0 does not exist
[07:07] <xormor> auronandace: I prefer "joe"
[07:07] <MiteshShah> xormor: its give more then 100 package list
[07:07] <xormor> MiteshShah: ok...
[07:07] <auronandace> xormor: he wanted ed
[07:07] <MiteshShah> auronandace: i know about ed
[07:07] <xormor> auronandace: ok, thanks.
[07:08] <MiteshShah> auronandace: i just want to know which packge provide that text editor
[07:08] <auronandace> MiteshShah: the package is called ed, as the bot just showed you
[07:08] <MiteshShah> auronandace: thanks :)
[07:09]  * newbie008 aparently nexus 7 is supported by ubuntu
[07:10] <babinlonston>  lauratika: u cant get output from sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 ?
[07:11] <lauratika> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5913896/
[07:11] <lauratika> llok mine
[07:12] <lauratika> *look
[07:13] <Mackwerk> Hello, I have a script in /etc/init, but it seems upstart doesnt see it? I cant do start myscript.conf :o
[07:13] <babinlonston> lauratika: your home directory is encrypted
[07:15] <babinlonston> lauratika:your home directory is encrypted and there is only 2 partitions u have defined one is /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda6 , Check the output for sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda3
[07:16] <lauratika> babinlonston: yeah the home folder is, what about the entire HD?
[07:16] <lauratika> i have home in one partition, ubuntu in another and swap
[07:16] <babinlonston> lauratika: check for sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sda6 and compare the filesystem line what says there must be a word as encrypted
[07:18] <lauratika> sda6 is!... as you post  has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery extent flex_bg sparse_super large_file huge_file uninit_bg dir_nlink extra_isize
[07:18] <lauratika> but what about the partition where windoze is?
[07:22] <babinlonston> lauratika: Sure your Entire Disk Wont be Encrypted , if so u will ask for a password while u boot , if its fully encrypted boot partition will ask for as password
[07:23] <lauratika> is there a way to encrypt the whole disk??
[07:25] <radiovstv> anyone play Dota 2? I'm having some font issues
[07:25] <babinlonston> lauratika: yes its possible
[07:26] <lauratika> what application you rekon??
[07:27] <Anaxandridas> Hi guys, noob here. Wanted to install Cinnamon, because I'm still detoxing from Windows and it looks similar. Went to this site, put in the said commands. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-cinnamon-1-8-on-ubuntu-13-04.html.
[07:28] <Anaxandridas> Nothing has changed though. Advise?
[07:28] <lauratika> Anaxandridas: reboot?
[07:28] <babinlonston> http://www.rationallyparanoid.com/articles/ubuntu-12-lts-security.html
[07:29] <lauratika> babinlonston: thanx
[07:29] <zeev_> Hi, is there a way to prevent users from running arbitrary binary programs except of those installed?
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: [never tried this before] couldn't you just have a user account with no priviliges so they couldn't change anything to executable?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Cinnamon is in the repos for raring
[07:32] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, what does that mean? I'm a noob.
[07:32] <Anaxandridas> "In the repos for raring"?
[07:32] <babinlonston> Who need Cinnamon ?
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, It means you don't need a ppa repos are repositories ubuntu has there own, its where you get packages.
[07:33] <auronandace> !software | Anaxandridas
[07:33] <Anaxandridas> ... wilee-nilee, that's great, but I still don't know how to put cinnamon on the computer.
[07:33] <zeev_> aeon-ltd: but if they copy something that has already x privilige?
[07:33] <lauratika> Anaxandridas: llok for it in ubuntu centre
[07:33] <Anaxandridas> I did that. Searching for cinnamon didn't bring it up.
[07:33] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: ... didn' think about that
[07:34] <Anaxandridas> I can find it other ways, but it says it's on there now.
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, If you have installed the ppa if you want that one did you run a update?
[07:34] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: https://github.com/babinlonston/Ubuntu-Linux-Stuffs/wiki/How-to-Install-latest-Cinnamon-1.6.4-in-Ubuntu-12.10-12.04-Linux-Mint
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> zeev_: strip the UI, remove keybindings, limit menus?
[07:34] <Anaxandridas> So I have an option to remove it... wilee-nilee, yes, I ran the update.
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, you are not helping.
[07:34] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: Have a look at my git hub
[07:35] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: whts wrong ?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, It is in the ubuntu repos in  raring
[07:35] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I already did that. I'm doing it again now, to be sure, but it looks like that's the same thing as on the site I already pulled up.
[07:36] <babinlonston> fine
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, PPA's are generally not supported here, so it might be worth removing the PPA and installing from ubuntu. it is up to you, All you have to do to install is in the terminal run sudo apt-get install cinnamon.
[07:37] <Anaxandridas> Second time through doing that, I put in "apt-get install build-essential" and got told this... "Could not open lock file var/lib/dpkg/locl. Unable to lock the administrator directory.
[07:37] <reisio> yeah if you can get it from an official repo, why wouldn't you
[07:38] <Anaxandridas> reisio, while I appreciate the rhetoric, I'm asking you how to do exactly that. So we don't need to philosophize.
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, You can only have one install app open at once.
[07:38] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, is there a way I can wipe that and start over? And do it properly?
[07:38] <reisio> Anaxandridas: I just got here :)
[07:38] <Sysiphus> Hi , I am looking for somebody that tells me how to get "FreeBSD 5" and "Ubuntu 10.04" running as a Dual-Boot-System
[07:38] <paolob> Hi guys! what streaming platform are there which can deliver content to all clients? I'm looking for an alternative to ms silverlight to uso on my web site
[07:38] <reisio> Sysiphus: install one, then install the other, that's 99% of it
[07:39] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: i have installed 30 client machine here in office , in ubuntu 12.04 we installed cinnamoan and its working fine
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> paolob: mp4+html5?
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Do you have the software center open?
[07:39] <reisio> paolob: silverlight is a browser plugin, you don't really need one of those to stream things
[07:39] <Anaxandridas> You guys are saying to install it through the software center. Which is seems to have done (now it tells me I can only remove it). So, would removing it and reinstalling it from the same place do anything?
[07:39] <reisio> paolob: you just need a streaming server, like icecast :)
[07:39] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I appreciate that you have successfully installed it. I need to install it, too.
[07:40] <paolob> reisio, I mean a video streamer
[07:41] <reisio> paolob: icecast streams video, too
[07:41] <BrightNewFuture> I've been working on getting an Internet connection working again after installing Ubuntu on a laptop. Not going easy. Anyone interested please add comments to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/232886.
[07:42] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: follow my steps in github buddy ... its wprked for me so what i have put it in wiki  if u need it to remove what already have installed ssh from any other machine to which u need to get installed and remove it using #apt-get remove cinnamon && apt-get purge cinnamon && apt-get autocleanall  then try to install from my steps
[07:42] <Sysiphus> feel free to message me at anytime...., please...
[07:43] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, And your aware that PPA's are not supported here, is that the best advice when cinnamon is in the ubuntu repos?
[07:44] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: http://pastebin.com/h4Fhwe5y look here
[07:44] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, You understnad I don't care if they install cinnamon it is whether they can get support
[07:45] <babinlonston> wilee-nilee: what u mean ?
[07:45] <Anaxandridas> babinlonston, I appreciate you continuing to paste those instructions here, in various ways, but it was following those instructions that didn't render a result, which is why I'm here asking.
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | babinlonston
[07:45] <wilee-nilee>  WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages,
[07:45] <reisio> lord the spam
[07:45] <wilee-nilee> lol
[07:46] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Anyway best of luck.
[07:46] <babinlonston> ok guys did u guys need proof its supporting me ?
[07:46] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, help is appreciated rather more than luck ;)
[07:47] <dance4x> does anyone here have the sable complete from system76? thinking about getting it but looking for some reviews.
[07:47] <babinlonston> Anaxandridas: install virtual manager with kvm and install ubuntu12.04 in it and then install cinnamon in it and check its supporting or not after there try in your base system if u feel any think go wrong
[07:49] <reisio> I don't know what you guys are talking about now
[07:49] <reisio> but kvm to try cinnamon sounds like a huge waste of time :)
[07:49] <wilee-nilee> I give up. lol
[07:51] <Anaxandridas> So, I've gotten three answers now. One is "your question is not supported", which I don't really understand, as this seems to be a chat room for #ubuntu questions, by people who just feel like helping out. One is "do the exact same thing you did, that rendered no result, which is why you came here," and the last is "use KVM to install ubuntu12.04 and then install cinnamon in it" which I'm not
[07:51] <Anaxandridas> sure makes sense...  I installed it via directions from the sites previously posted, AND I have installed it via software center. However, I am still not looking at a Cinnamon desktop.
[07:52] <reisio> ikr? :)
[07:52] <RobHaz> miaauw
[07:52] <RobHaz> miaauw
[07:52] <chalcedony> volunteering on irc is a good thing :)
[07:52] <reisio> RobHaz: fffft
[07:52] <RobHaz> WOEF
[07:52] <RobHaz> Woef
[07:52] <RobHaz> woef
[07:52] <RobHaz> :D
[07:52] <reisio> right, woef
[07:52] <babinlonston>  Anaxandridas: while login u have to choose the cinnamon
[07:53] <dance4x> is there really any difference between getting a device from system76 vs getting one from asus and then putting ubuntu on it?
[07:54] <reisio> dance4x: the only for sure difference is that if you get it from asus, you are giving Microsoft money :)
[07:54] <reisio> dance4x: the rest will vary
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, I would talk with reisio If it were me, that be good help. ;)
[07:54] <RobHaz> dance4x: DONT GIVE MS MONEY!
[07:54] <Anaxandridas> wilee-nilee, we're PMing now ;) Thank you. And, sorry, didn't realise you were Canonical staff.
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !caps | RobHaz
[07:54] <RobHaz> OOh
[07:54] <dance4x> i can get the computer for a lower price with free 2 day shipping if i do asus instead of system76
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> Anaxandridas, Cool, I'm not. ;)
[07:55] <RobHaz> wilee-nilee: are you canoncial?
[07:55] <dance4x> im not really worried about giving MS money if i get a lower price
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> !ot | dance4x
[07:55] <lissyx> Hello
[07:55] <reisio> dance4x: that's your prerogative :p
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> ok guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[07:55] <RobHaz> !guidelines | dance4x
[07:55] <reisio> dance4x: if you know it's hardware that GNU/Linux will support, then you know as much as anyone
[07:55] <lissyx> anyone skilled about udisks ? I'm having an issue on my 13.04 laptop, old devices mounted by udisks are still listed in udisksctl status
[07:56] <dance4x> does this not count as ubuntu support?
[07:56] <lissyx> this makes the /media/ path going crazy sometimes
[07:56] <RobHaz> dance4x: Whats up?
[07:57] <histo> lissyx: what do you mean going crazy?
[07:57] <lissyx> histo, bad path being computed
[07:57] <dance4x> i am trying to figure out the differences between getting a desktop that is made for ubuntu or getting one that comes with windows and putting ubuntu on it
[07:57] <dance4x> like what are the problems associated with not getting a desktop from system76 or thinkpenguin, etc.
[07:58] <dance4x> is it worth it to pay extra for a desktop from a linux company i guess is my question
[07:58] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: which costs less? then is the gpu/wifi/eth/audio supported in linux?
[07:58] <lissyx> histo, yesterday night I plugged a drive with label 'Sauvegardes' as sdb1, now I'm plugging another with another label (it's detected as sdb1 too, since I've removed the other one), and I'm getting udisksctl mounting it to /media/alex/Sauvegardes/ instead of /media/alex/FirefoxOS/
[07:59] <anonymouschen> Hey there
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: excluding the ms tax you don't care about, and the price which you do, the only difference would be whether all the hardware is supported by GNU/Linux
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: with a system76 box that is rather a given
[07:59] <anonymouschen> I'm having this problem with unity
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: with an asus box it's very likely, but not a certainty
[07:59] <reisio> dance4x: a little research on your part could confirm it one way or the other, however
[07:59] <anonymouschen> where amazon adds keeps displaying
[07:59] <anonymouschen> after disabling from privacy settings
[07:59] <dance4x> reisio so i just need to make sure that all the hardware is compatible?
[07:59] <reisio> anonymouschen: you probably need to uninstall the package
[08:00] <reisio> anonymouschen: something like this: http://lifehacker.com/5953180/how-to-remove-amazon-ads-from-ubuntu-1210
[08:00] <anonymouschen> after disabling like 10 sec later ubuntu crashed and everything is reinable
[08:00] <histo> lissyx: are you sure the label is different on the new one?
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: yup
[08:00] <dance4x> reisio like processor, graphics card, etc.
[08:00] <lissyx> histo, and a 'udisksctl status' shows my old devices, and those are also listed in the "Devices" section of nautilus
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> anonymouschen, Did you clear recent items?
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: webcam, wireless
[08:00] <anonymouschen> Yeah
[08:00] <reisio> dance4x: if it has something like nvidia optimus, think about that
[08:00] <anonymouschen> Well
[08:00] <lissyx> histo, yes.
[08:00] <reisio> etc., etc.
[08:00] <anonymouschen> that's not the cause
[08:01] <anonymouschen> I was installing packages
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: the bigger problems are definitely wifi+gpu, even if the gpu works it's performance will not reach the same as win anytime soon
[08:01] <anonymouschen> to compile
[08:01] <lissyx> histo, http://pastebin.com/4haEaVB6
[08:01] <anonymouschen> libimobiledevice
[08:01] <wilee-nilee> !enter | anonymouschen
[08:01] <anonymouschen> Sorry
[08:01] <guddu> hi
[08:02] <guddu> anyone tell me how to use kvpn in ubuntu
[08:02] <dance4x> reisio aeon-ltd so anything with nvidia for the gpu is probably off limits?
[08:02] <reisio> dance4x: no not at all
[08:02] <reisio> dance4x: but if you want to know what you're getting into, that's what to look into
[08:03] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: it's the hybrid intel/nvidia switching in laptops you have to watch for
[08:03] <guddu> anyone help me??
[08:03] <anonymouschen> Out of curiousity does anyone know the progress of reinstalling the ubuntu forums
[08:03] <dance4x> reisio aeon-ltd i am looking at the certified hardware list on the ubuntu website, but is there another site where it has specific parts?
[08:03] <anonymouschen> as in is it close to be back up or what
[08:03] <reisio> anonymouschen: AFAICT anyone that knows has been instructed to not say :)
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> guddu, Not with a statement of the problem to the channel.
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> without*
[08:04] <reisio> anonymouschen: google et al. probably still have cached copies, though, if you just want to search it
[08:04] <guddu> i'm new here
[08:04] <histo> lissyx: I would check gnome-disks and see what the disk is being seen as
[08:04] <lissyx> histo, gnome-disks displays the same
[08:04] <guddu> and i dont know how to use it, i want to start VPN
[08:04] <lissyx> histo, and displays my old unplugged drive ...
[08:05] <lissyx> histo, http://i.imgur.com/NF6jPfj.png look the Devices (« Périphériques ») section
[08:06] <lissyx> histo, and browsing dbus shows similar behavior
[08:06] <aeon-ltd> dance4x: i don't know of any, but since pc spec lists are easy to find you can google for them plus terms like ubuntu/linux + problems/not working/hdmi not working etc
[08:07] <lissyx> histo, restating udisksd clears the list
[08:07] <histo> lissyx: does it correct the read after restarting udisks?
[08:07] <lissyx> histo, let me check
[08:07] <dance4x> aeon-ltd k. thank you for the help. i'll start googling around.
[08:08] <lissyx> histo, seems so
[08:08] <lissyx> histo, what bothers me the most is that each time I do udisksctl mount --block-device /dev/... then udisksctl unmount --block-device /dev/... it populates the device list
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: why are you running udiskctl?
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, and removing the device, udisks keeps it in memory
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, to mount the device ?
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: devices should be automounted by udisk
[08:09] <lissyx> histo, but the behavior is the same using the nautilus UI
[08:09] <histo> lissyx: and udisk rules
[08:10] <lissyx> histo, well I can't explain why but it does not automount for the eSATA card
[08:10] <lissyx> histo, as far as I can say plain old usb devices are automounted correctly
[08:13] <histo> lissyx: You may have to write a rule for that particular disk to get automounted
[08:14] <executor_> hello
[08:14] <lissyx> histo, do you have any link to man page/ref for this ?
[08:14] <reisio> excelsiora: 'lo
[08:15] <wilee-nilee> anonymouschen, We only know what the splash says.
[08:15] <histo> lissyx: I'm looking now for something that would be the "ubuntu" way
[08:16] <lissyx> histo, found this discussion http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/devkit-devel/2011-June/001094.html
[08:16] <lissyx> histo, that might explain why eSATA drive not automatically mounted
[08:18] <histo> lissyx: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man5/udisks-glue.conf.5.html  This looks interesting
[08:21] <histo> ex9t: hello
[08:22] <histo> lissyx: also you didn't really need to use udiskctl if you are manually mounting mount would be sufficient. But if you want automounting the last link I posted looks easy enough.
[08:23] <suomynon> hi
[08:23] <lissyx> histo, what do you mean ? "mount would be sufficient"
[08:23] <histo> lissyx: mount /dev/of/disk /where/to/mount
[08:23] <lissyx> histo, well it complains the mount point does not exists
[08:23] <reisio> hi suomynon
[08:23] <histo> !! sudo
[08:24] <suomynon> i have some trouble with linuxdc++ can you help me?
[08:24] <histo> lissyx: you have to mkdir /path/to/somewhere before you can mount to somewhere
[08:24] <histo> !details | suomynon
[08:24] <lissyx> histo, which is what I wanted to avoid doing
[08:25] <lissyx> histo, since /media/<user>/ is somehow managed by udisks, I don't like the idea of mkdir myself
[08:25] <histo> lissyx: sudo mkdir /media/whatever && sudo mount /dev/blah## /media/whatever
[08:26] <suomynon> i can't download nothing. i have set the TCp and UDP in the router but i can't download files
[08:26] <lissyx> histo, which is not nice
[08:26] <histo> lissyx: If not then create a udisk-glue conf and have it automount esata like normal
[08:26] <lissyx> histo, udisks-glue seems to be needed
[08:26] <g105b> The default gnome-terminal doesn't tab-auto-complete any more, how can I fix it?
[08:26] <histo> lissyx: it is nice, the mount point doesn't need to be in /media you can mkdir /home/lissyx/mountpoint  and mount it there
[08:27] <reisio> g105b: 'reset'?
[08:27] <histo> g105b: is bash-completion installed?
[08:27] <lissyx> histo, and then I have to rebuild my 5-6 B2G trees because path is hardcoded in several places ...
[08:27] <g105b> reisio: I don't know how to 'reset'. I just reinstalled gnome-terminal in apt-get
[08:27] <reisio> g105b: it's a command
[08:27] <lissyx> histo, anyway, meeting, after I'll try the glue solution
[08:27] <g105b> histo: yes
[08:28] <histo> g105b: type reset in gnome terminal and 'press enter'
[08:28] <g105b> reisio: nope, didn't fix it
[08:28] <histo> g105b: dpkg -l bash-completion
[08:28] <g105b> If I press ctrl+alt+F1, the terminal there works.
[08:28] <g105b> (This means it's a gnome-terminal issue)
[08:29] <histo> g105b: did you change your shell from bash to something else?
[08:29] <g105b> histo: nope, I use a pretty standard OS install.
[08:30] <suomynon> i'm running ubuntu 13.04 on acer 5750 and i have problem with linuxdc++. I can't download files. What are the settings that I have to set in Preferences/Connections?
[08:31] <wasanzy> is it possible to upgrade  ubuntu 10.10 to the latest version?
[08:31] <histo> g105b: I would try gnome-terminal as a different user perhaps it's a configuration problem in your ~... Try gksu gnome-terminal and test in there
[08:31] <histo> !eol | wasanzy
[08:31] <histo> suomynon: you may have to look for linuxdc++ support
[08:32] <g105b> histo: running as gksu didn't work either
[08:33] <suomynon> ok histo  thank you
[08:33] <suomynon> i'll look support
[08:34] <histo> g105b: No idea what's going on then did gksu pull your prefernces e.g. color & background settings?
[08:34] <g105b> not sure, as I don't have any
[08:35] <histo> g105b: create a new user and login as them and try
[08:40] <alphix> clear
[08:41] <histo> alphix: try /clear
[08:44] <tetracon> #qt-gstreamer
[08:44] <reisio> heh
[08:44] <reisio> just in case you wanted to dep on both Qt AND GNOME :p
[08:45] <RayWizard|3> i have high xorg cpu load when playing flash, however it is not always the case, is there a way to restart xorg without killing graphic apllications curently running?
[08:45] <histo> RayWizard|3: no
[08:46] <reisio> RayWizard|3: probably can kill flash, though
[08:46] <reisio> which is more sensible anyways
[08:46] <histo> RayWizard|3: what video card?
[08:46] <RayWizard|3> integrated hd3000, it works well usualy
[08:46] <RayWizard|3> dont have problems under windows, and when system just booted up
[08:47] <histo> RayWizard|3: do you have propriatary drivers installed?
[08:48] <RayWizard|3> how to check?
[08:49] <histo> RayWizard|3: the drivers manager from System Settings
[08:49] <lord4163> Hello
[08:50] <lord4163> Why do I have a different keyboard layout in TTY? :(
[08:50] <g105b> sudo apt-get --purge remove gnome-terminal < That has got back directory tab-completion, but I'm still missing completion when using apt-get or more importantly, git (to complete branch names)
[08:50] <histo> !keyboard | lord4163
[08:50] <histo> jesus no cli
[08:50] <lord4163> histo: :P
[08:51] <histo> lord4163: cat /etc/default/keyboard
[08:51] <histo> lord4163: take a look there
[08:52] <adam68> Using Pan for Usenet on 12.04LTS, Pan Events says Error connecting to "reder.albasani.net:119" (Network is unreachable) or (Connection timed out). Any tricks to this? I must check with pings. Is so strange.
[08:52] <RayWizard|3> driver "Intel® Sandybridge Desktop " i supose its propriatary
[08:52] <lord4163> histo: Ok how do I change it to English US international with dead keys?
[08:53] <histo> RayWizard|3: lspci -k | grep -i vga
[08:53] <histo> lord4163: change it in GUI if it works there
[08:53] <histo> or a live cd
[08:54] <lord4163> histo: yeah my keyboard layout is alright in my de
[08:54] <RayWizard|3> histo: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[08:54] <histo> lord4163: then gksu gedit /etc/default/keyboard in your DE
[08:55] <histo> RayWizard|3: You are find then nvm.   Try testing some html5 videos see if that pegs your xorg.
[08:55] <lord4163> histo: yeah but what values must I enter there?
[08:56] <histo> lord4163: let me pastebin mine hold up
[08:57] <histo> lord4163: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914112/
[08:57] <lord4163> histo: like my tilde is not in right place and the @ is on " -_-
[08:58] <hewhomust> lord, thats probably keyboard layout
[08:58] <lord4163> histo: is that english us with dead keys?
[08:58] <hewhomust> i believe you have uk keyboard the same thing happened to me
[08:59] <lord4163> sudo service keyboard restart? :P
[08:59] <jony_easyrider> how can I benchmark two different distros to see which is performing faster?
[08:59] <tanto_> dasdsa
[09:00] <reisio> jony_easyrider: not in any way simply explained by another person
[09:00] <adam69> OK. Will ping albasani server, I guess is the least I can do .....
[09:00] <histo> jony_easyrider: read phoronix
[09:00] <hewhomust> jony, could you go to keyboard settings in system settings
[09:00] <llutz> adam69: the hostname is "reader.albasani.net" not reder
[09:01] <adam69> yes, thanks llutz, I got that right in the setup. I will ping may suggest something ?
[09:01] <histo> jony_easyrider: http://www.phoronix.com/
[09:03] <lord4163> Hmm how do I load that layout now histo ?
[09:04] <jony_easyrider> histo, ty for the link
[09:04] <histo> lord4163: boot the system would be easiest for you.
[09:04] <lord4163> histo: I did
[09:05] <tanto_> Help me, I want to install  NSClient++ on ubuntu 12.04
[09:05] <adam69> llutz, wow reader.albasani.net pings good. No probs there. Maybe I should try their alternatives https etc ?
[09:05] <histo> lord4163: then you should be good or you can use the loadkeys layout to load one
[09:05] <llutz> adam69: perhaps you should try a more reliable service than albasani ...
[09:05] <lord4163> histo: No it ain't working after reboot?
[09:06] <histo> lord4163: layout am
[09:06] <torke> hi
[09:06] <hewhomust> hi torke
[09:06] <histo> lord4163: I also have no idea what the hell keyboard you have so it's rather difficult for me to give you settings
[09:07] <lord4163> histo: English US international with dead keys
[09:07] <adam69> llutz: went there after trouble with aoie. I'll get back to the albasani guy who gave me the access password, he may have a comment. Pan should work, right?
[09:07] <torke> connecting to an ubuntu X session via tightvnc is fine and my keyboard input is detected properly except Alt key. e.g. i can not write @ there.
[09:08] <llutz> adam69: i never used albasani myself, but i don#t see any reason why pan should fail if albasani offers standard nntp-service
[09:08] <torke> connecting another virtual desktop via vnc works, but i still fail doing the same with the ubuntu os.
[09:08] <lord4163> histo: sudo loadkeys us did work but I don't have the dead keys now :P
[09:08] <torke> do you have a hint for fixing this Alt-key issue?
[09:09] <babybum> hello
[09:09] <hewhomust> hi baby
[09:09] <hewhomust> lol
[09:10] <adam69> llutz: OK, thanks. One OT question, if I may; what's a good IRC chat that I can learn up on, X-chat?. Seems I need beep notification of my moniker, and some focussing commands. Or perhaps I just read up on the / commands to enjoy this more? Thanks.
[09:11] <hewhomust> !xchat
[09:11] <babybum> hola
[09:11] <henkpoley> Is it even possible anymore to enter a package name in Launchpad and then report a bug for that package?
[09:11] <dr_willis> xchat has help site and docs
[09:11] <hewhomust> adam, xchat is nice and easy
[09:13] <lord4163> histo: Where can I see the available keymaps? or do you know what I need to get the dead keys working?
[09:13] <histo> !bug | henkpoley
[09:13] <ikonia> henkpoley: on the bug reporting wiki page, it does detail it
[09:13] <adam69> OK. X-chat with its blog info maybe is what I need. X-chat not intuitive for adding IRC servers. But its mainly 'beep alert on monicker appearance' I think I need. Also a few for / commands under my fingers. Thanks guys.
[09:13] <ikonia> henkpoley: it's not obvious, but if you read it fully, it's in there
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: just run:  ubuntu-bug packagename    and it will do that for you
[09:14] <henkpoley> does that work over ssh too ?
[09:14] <ikonia> adam69: it's very easy for adding servers and ver intuitive
[09:14] <ikonia> henkpoley: does what work over ssh ?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: bit easier than trying to find the link on the page (its not clear which link it is at all)
[09:14] <sasha|> o hai
[09:14] <reisio> ohio
[09:14] <sasha|> is there a way to get GoToMeeting working without wine/VMs on Ubuntu?
[09:14] <ikonia> sasha|: how does it work ?
[09:15] <dr_willis> find a native client?
[09:15] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: anyways, I found a "report a bug" link by clicking around on the breadcrumbs for the package I needed in Launchpad
[09:15] <histo> lord4163: can't check right now for you perhaps someone else can help.
[09:15] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: apparently you can't report for a package, but only for a team or something
[09:15] <reisio> sasha|: without wine/vms means a native client
[09:15] <histo> sasha|: ask the go to meeting people
[09:15] <reisio> sasha|: either there is such a thing or there isn't
[09:15] <ikonia> henkpoley: there is an option to select a package
[09:16] <histo> lord4163: perhaps sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup    will help you
[09:16] <sasha|> darn
[09:18] <sasha|> well someone's going to range on me… not understanding the fact that they physically cannot have the sort of performance they're already getting with ubuntu, on a 7 year old computer with 2gb of RAM and heavily outdated hardware
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: is the package from a PPA per chance?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: tried Xubuntu?
[09:18] <hurdman> hello folks, i have got a question : will the futur ubuntu edge phone be open hardware ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: what video chip are you using?
[09:19] <reisio> hurdman: given that I've not heard anything about it being so, I doubt it
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: linux-generic-lts-raring <IP_ADDRESS>.25
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> hurdman: i'd ask in #ubuntu-touch
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-generic-lts-raring
[09:19] <reisio> hurdman: in fact they said they weren't going into the phone making business, just the os making business
[09:19] <dr_willis> hurdman: ive seen verynlittle harfdware thats totally open
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip: anyways I found the report link, it's just too hidden
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> henkpoley: oh, very
[09:19] <hurdman> dr_willis: the design of course, probably not the SoC :)
[09:19] <henkpoley> ActionParsnip As, in, not on any page where you want it to be
[09:20] <histo> sasha|: any reason they depend upon go to meeting as opposed to other products that are available?
[09:20] <hurdman> reisio: but they wants to build their phone
[09:20] <sasha|> ActionParsnip: no, ubuntu runs ok, but it would run better if there weren't 100 winnows open
[09:20] <ikonia> sasha|: then don't open 100 windows ?
[09:20] <ikonia> sasha|: you have to work within the limitations of your resources
[09:20] <reisio> hurdman: ;p
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: then you will need more RAM to run more apps
[09:20] <sasha|> he wants to have Windows 7, which we have already tried… and it certainly won't handle no where near as much
[09:21] <ikonia> sasha|: sounds like it meets the windows 7 requirements fine
[09:21] <hurdman> if the soft is open and the hardware too, it should be the best news ever :D
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> sasha|: I'm not seeing a question here, just statements....
[09:21] <hewhomust> perhaps a lighter desktop environment would do nicely but yeah it should be able to run windows 7 alright
[09:21] <sasha|> that's because you guys are talking to much and not letting me write something :P
[09:21] <hewhomust> lol
[09:22] <adam69> OK folks, new on IRC here. er.... How do I exit gracefully? / leaving or something?
[09:22] <ikonia> adam69: type /part
[09:22] <MrQuist> adam /quit
[09:22] <adam69> OK
[09:22] <MrQuist> or ctrl+w
[09:22] <ikonia> MrQuist: is client specific
[09:23] <sasha|> histo: well he's in a meeting with 6 other people who are using GoToMeeting and he doesn't have much of an option. You should have heard him when he discovered that Skype doesn't do screen sharing...
[09:23] <zipy> alt + f4
[09:23] <dr_willis> depends on the irc client also
[09:23] <MrQuist> indeed
[09:23] <klevin> hello Guys
[09:23] <hewhomust> hi klevin
[09:23] <MrQuist> http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html
[09:23] <klevin> whats up?
[09:23] <adam69> Thanks MrQuist
[09:23] <MrQuist> NO KLEVIN DONT
[09:23] <hewhomust> the roof lol
[09:23] <MrQuist> That an anti-joke
[09:23] <klevin> what?
[09:24] <ikonia> errr can we stop the messing around please
[09:24] <hewhomust> yup
[09:24] <MrQuist> "the roof lol"
[09:24] <ikonia> the channel is for ubuntu help
[09:24] <histo> sasha|: http://alternativeto.net/software/gotomeeting/?platform=linux
[09:24] <klevin> yes i know for this i entered here
[09:24] <MrQuist> this for ubuntu help..?
[09:24] <klevin> i am trying to make a server in vmware
[09:24] <klevin> with inside a second virtual machine
[09:24] <klevin> so a vmware with 2 os
[09:25] <klevin> i have the basic skills in linux
[09:25] <MrQuist> What are you all saying weird nerdy stuff
[09:25] <ikonia> klevin: your trying to do virtualization within virtualization ?
[09:25] <klevin> yes
[09:25] <MrQuist> good luck
[09:25] <reisio> klevin: that doesn't usually workout so well
[09:25] <histo> klevin: why on earth?
[09:25] <ikonia> reisio: vmware supports 4 nested deep
[09:25] <dr_willis> dosbox in vbox
[09:25] <dr_willis> :-)