[07:40] <acheronuk> git push webhooks look to be stalled again
[08:35] <cjwatson> acheronuk: Thanks; should be recovering now
[11:32] <oSoMoN> how much disk space do builders have at their disposal when building debs?
[11:39] <wgrant> oSoMoN: The instances have 60GB root volumes, and all but a couple of gigabytes should be usable by the build
[11:41] <oSoMoN> wgrant, thanks! was this increased in the last few years by any chance? I'm asking because the libreoffice package was artificially separated into two source packages because of a disk space limitation, and I'm wondering whether we could get rid of this workaround now
[11:41] <oSoMoN> 60GB should be enough for that purpose
[11:42] <oSoMoN> but I'd like to understand what the limitation was previously
[11:54] <wgrant> oSoMoN: It's slowly increased over the years. The -l10n split was back in the Xen days.
[11:54] <wgrant> I really don't remember what things were set to back then
[11:54] <wgrant> Probably 40GB, but not sure
[11:56] <mIk3_08> Many Thanks to David Callé. God Bless you always. Happy Ubuntu.
[11:58] <wgrant> oSoMoN: Hmm, the split actually predates virtualised builders at all, so there's really no way to tell unless you can find IRC logs from 12 years ago
[12:17] <oSoMoN> wgrant, ack, in any case it looks like it's worth trying to reconcile the two source packages now, there's a good chance it will work
[12:18] <wgrant> oSoMoN: Worth a try indeed
[12:29] <cjwatson> Until a few years ago builders weren't particularly clean, either.
[12:30] <oSoMoN> cjwatson, so less disk space available due to leftovers?
[12:30] <cjwatson> Certainly in the pre-virtualised days you could very well end up with piles of junk left around from old kernels, previous builds, etc.
[12:30] <cjwatson> And it wouldn't have been consistent across builders.
[12:33] <oSoMoN> wgrant, cjwatson: thanks, I filed bug #1791943 to track attempts at merging the two source packages
[12:35] <ricotz> (old) virtual builders were affected too ;) I even made a list of working builders for libreoffice back in the days
[12:36] <wgrant> Yeah, the original virtual builders were deliberately extremely diverse hardware
[12:36] <wgrant> Often extremely bad hardware too :/
[13:20] <brainwash> the ubuntuBSD project seems to be dead https://launchpad.net/ubuntubsd
[13:21] <brainwash> the homepage links leads to some ad website, and there has not been any project activity in a long time also
[13:21] <brainwash> homepage link
[14:40] <oSoMoN> I'm seeing a snap build fail because the builder fails to clone the git repository, which is hosted on LP (it's a mirror of a github repo): https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+snap/gtk-common-themes/+build/330380
[14:41] <oSoMoN> it wasn't doing that 15min ago, is it affecting only https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/gtk-common-themes/+git/master or could it be a more general issue?
[14:41] <oSoMoN> (trying to clone locally hangs, too)
[14:41] <acheronuk> yep. git clone of a LP repo is kaput
[14:42] <oSoMoN> darn
[14:42] <acheronuk> cjwatson: ^^ issue you are ware of?
[14:42] <acheronuk> *aware
[14:43] <oSoMoN> ah, a local cloning operation just completed, after seemingly hanging for 5+ mins
[14:44] <acheronuk> Cloning into 'git'...
[14:44] <acheronuk> fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
[14:44] <acheronuk> another is cloning at less than 56k modem rate
[14:45] <oSoMoN> is git.launchpad.net being DDoSed?
[14:52] <cjwatson> No, just scales badly
[14:52] <cjwatson> It's apparently recovering
[14:53] <cjwatson> (Well, I mean possibly, but more likely just normal activity ...)
[14:54] <acheronuk> Not me. I was admittedly about to clone 336 repos, but it never got started as it hung on number 1!
[23:27] <guiverc_d> suggested to try here:  If I `ubuntu-bug evince`to report an issue, apport window appears ("Collecting..") then "Send problem report to devs" (with details) with send/don't-send, but on send it closes and nothing appears to be sent..  (not via my https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/ceaac5c412433...  --- am i missing something? or issues currently?
[23:41] <wgrant> guiverc_d: ubuntu-bug questions are probably better in #ubuntu
[23:41] <guiverc_d> thanks wgrant
[23:41] <wgrant> ubuntu-bug can use the Launchpad API for some of its work, but it's not something that we have much to do with.
[23:41] <wxl> except that seems like a launchpad error?
[23:42] <wgrant> Which error?
[23:42] <wxl> oh maybe i'm wrong, actually. that's errors.u.c.
[23:42] <guiverc_d> i've ubuntu-bug reported; but none appear in errors.ubuntu.com/user/.. for my box
[23:44] <wgrant> Right, errors.u.c is not related to LP
[23:45] <guiverc_d> no issues with lp currently? or someone I can monitor in future?
[23:45] <guiverc_d> sorry somwhere (not someone)(
[23:46] <wgrant> guiverc_d: Here is the best place for Launchpad issues. But there's nothing awry at present.
[23:46] <guiverc_d> thanks again ~
[23:46] <guiverc_d> s/~/!]


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[07:59] <pirx> excellent
[07:59] <pirx> will install on my new quad core laptop now, and hoping for some insanely snappy interfacing:)
[08:02] <xangua> Make sure the problem is not your graphic card/drivers
[08:03] <xangua> Unity feeling snappy here, but I like xfce on my dual core with 2GB RAM only secondary laptop
[08:04] <pirx> does it feel _instant_ ?
[08:04] <xangua> Yes
[08:04] <pirx> lucky you:)
[08:04] <pirx> i have the latest nvidia-drivers
[08:04] <xangua> I have an AMD apu
[08:04] <pirx> everything looks correct in nvidia-settings
[08:05] <pirx> i have turned off fading and stuff like that in compiz
[08:05] <xangua> Or maybe it's because I use SSD
[08:05] <xangua> :-P
[08:05] <pirx> yet, when i open a simple terminal window, it takes a few fractions of a second too long imho
[08:05] <pirx> oh my got, havent used hdd for a few years now
[08:06] <pirx> got=god
[08:06] <pirx> which btw is true, game of thrones is fantastic
[13:30] <xubuntu36w> good morning
[13:31] <xubuntu36w> running on a dell mini 10, can someone point me in the right direction to get my wireless card to work?
[19:32] <Guest73330> huh?
[19:33] <Guest73330> well, I'm still Tama as long as I know who I am.
[19:33] <trymon> But IRC don't know who you are ;)
[19:34] <trymon> It the username maybe registered to someone or did you register the username and didn't authenticate?
[19:35] <Guest73330> I had no idea I needed to "authenticate", nor how to do that. It doesn't matter, anyway. It takes more than an IRC server to make me suffer a crisis of identity
[19:35] <Guest73330> this is my first time using Xubuntu; I'm thinking of switching to this for showing other, non-technical people how to use linux. Every day people come into my computer repair shop with windows problems I have to solve for them
[19:36] <Guest73330> "Is mine a good virus-scanner, Tama?" - well, there isn't really a good virus scanner, it's better to just get a system that actually does permissions properly instead of hacking on some ducttape to a broken operating system
[19:40] <trymon> Every system is good or crappy. It depend's only on the user using the system. Windows could also be safe as long you know what you do. Personally I use Xubuntu, Windows 10 ans macOS
[19:48] <Guest73330> I know. What I'm saying is that windows is not user friendly.  Which is why I'm helping novices switch to linux
[19:51] <trymon> I would say you need just common sense to be safe using any system. But unfortunately the most usersdon't think first.