[00:58] <angel__>  Does anyone know an easy way to install Ubunto One on Wheezy Debian?
[08:49] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy European Day of Languages! :-D


[02:19] <OvenWerk1> zequence or micahg: if possible I would like to have ubuntustudio-menu uploaded. Speed is not required :)
[02:19] <OvenWerk1> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/ubuntustudio-menu
[08:27] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I'll upload in a few moments
[08:41] <zequence> Hmm, think I did an upload before, and forgot to push it our bzr repo :P
[10:20] <sakrecoer_> thanks zequence , strange, my first mail with the question didn't make it trhu..
[10:21] <sakrecoer_> does this mean that when i will do sudo apt-get update/grade next time i  my dev install, the menu will be corrected?
[10:33] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Yes, once the package appears in the archive
[10:34] <zequence> sakrecoer_: It's in the main archive now as it seems
[10:34] <zequence> not sure about mirrors
[10:43] <sakrecoer_> so cool! <3 :)
[10:49] <sakrecoer_> i'm a bit nervous about adressing the hole user list....giving me blankpaper-complex lol...
[10:57] <sakrecoer_> i'm thinking about the possiblity to get stuff that is plain bad publicity for all kindsof reason, and how to deal with refusal...
[10:59] <sakrecoer_> anyways, i'll send it to the dev list this afternoon for approval first.
[11:00] <sakrecoer_> but one ideas is to ask them to send me their work, explain that there will be some sort of selection involved, and those selected will be interviewed. But it would be nice to have a "comfort prize" for those who get refused, in order to motivate the troops...
[11:01] <sakrecoer_> maybe the PR-team can form some sort of jury...
[11:08] <zequence> sakrecoer_: I think you should go ahead and just make decisions as much as possible, since most people here won't have much time for it
[11:09] <zequence> Instead of having a competition, just say you would like to interview as many as possible, but it also depends on time
[11:12] <sakrecoer_> excellent one!!
[11:42] <sakrecoer_> its out there... thanks for the push zequence !
[11:43] <sakrecoer_> I send it to dev list anyways, no reason to exclude it..
[11:52] <zequence> sakrecoer_: I answered your post on the mail list. Would you like to learn the whole procedure of building packages?
[11:53] <zequence> ubuntustudio-menu is a perfect package to start with, so if you have ideas for changes later, you could do the changes yourself.
[11:55] <zequence> Whenever you get any ideas for changes to it, just let me know, and I'll walk you through the whole procedure
[11:55] <zequence> OR, if you want to just learn how to build and upload to a PPA, we can do that anytime
[11:57] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Double posting, or cross posting is usually not recommended. But, it's your soup :)
[12:00] <sakrecoer_> oh... right.... i actually know it.... typical nervous me.... :/
[12:01] <sakrecoer_> hopefully, it will make sense anyway, i ask people to answer me directly....
[12:02] <sakrecoer_> na well... first response dropped in. looking friendly :)
[12:02] <sakrecoer_> zequence: i'd love to learn the whole procedure!
[12:04] <zequence> sakrecoer_: So, have you made uploads to a PPA before?
[12:04] <sakrecoer_> i think you walked me through a bit with the scribus icon bug..
[12:04] <sakrecoer_> but... i wouldn't say i'm confient about it yet..
[12:05] <zequence> Right. I should add some really basic examples to our wiki.
[12:06] <zequence> Ok, time for a siesta on my part
[12:06] <sakrecoer_> i have to go to work now.... putting it in the wiki will make accessible to more of us..
[12:06] <sakrecoer_> haha! sweeeeeeet! i dream of siesta :)
[12:06] <sakrecoer_> have sweet siesta dreams!
[12:07] <zequence> sakrecoer_: Have fun at work :)
[14:36] <OvenWerk1> zequence: Thankyou.
[17:52] <zequence> OvenWerk1: No need to thank me, Len. It's my part of the job until someone else gets upload rights :).
[18:02] <sakrecoer_> feeling like Bill Medley and Jennifer Warnes at work, and i owe it all to youbuntustudio :D maybe those imagemagick entries are intended for me to learn?
[18:03] <sakrecoer_> looks like imagemagick is a synfig dependency
[20:32] <OvenWerk1> sakrecoer_: just sent you email re imagemagick.
[21:03] <sakrecoer_> Your rock OvenWerk1 :) just answered!
[21:03] <sakrecoer_> read y'all tomorrow!


[11:11] <didrocks> desrt: hey, no, it wasn't. did you saw pitti's comment? I can testbuild it, but I have no testcase to ensure it works well with the package built with our toolchains. Do you want me to provide you a package in my ppa or a simple testapp?
[12:06] <desrt> didrocks: i'm confused.
[12:07] <desrt> you require me to test it in order to OK that it works?
[12:07] <didrocks> desrt: well, pitti required to build the debian package on a ubuntu system (to use our toolchain) to ensure it works then
[12:08] <didrocks> desrt: if you want, I can provide you one in my ppa if you can gain some time there
[12:08] <desrt> my interest was to have it available in the distribution itself for the benefit of others
[12:08] <desrt> i'm likely to install the git version, myself
[12:09] <didrocks> sure, I know that :) I can test it myself if you can just give me a simple way to test it to ack it works
[12:09] <desrt> the best way would be to build it with itself
[12:10] <didrocks> desrt: oh, sorry, you speak about valac
[12:10] <desrt> hah
[12:10] <desrt> were we having one of those conversations? :)
[12:11] <didrocks> desrt: right, I was thinking about syncing from debian the new binding you want to use for dconf
[12:11] <didrocks> :)
[12:11] <desrt> ah. don't worry about 0mq
[12:11] <didrocks> sorry about that
[12:11] <desrt> it's not nearly as much of a concern as valac
[12:11] <didrocks> yeah, for valac, njpatel will give it some tests as it seems to break their launcher
[12:11] <didrocks> if they can workaround it on Monday, I'll upload it
[12:11] <desrt> ok.  nice.
[12:11] <desrt> if you need help with that, let me know
[12:12] <didrocks> so, no, I didn't forgot, it's just in progress :)
[12:12] <didrocks> desrt: sure, thanks
[12:12] <desrt> with zeromq, if i end up using it, i can just have it in my own ppa
[12:12] <desrt> since dconf will obviously be in ppa too, that's not so bad
[12:12] <didrocks> desrt: well, make sense, let's sync it for maverick so
[12:12] <desrt> great
[12:13] <didrocks> sorry for the confusion :)
[12:13] <desrt> heh.  no problem.
[12:13] <desrt> <- too early
[12:13] <desrt> just got up to catch a flight :p
[12:13] <didrocks> oh, where are you going to?
[12:13] <desrt> boston
[12:13] <didrocks> nice, is it the dconf/gsettings hackfest?
[12:13] <desrt> yup
[12:13] <didrocks> sweet, have fun there!
[15:57] <desrt> so.  google as default search engine?
[15:57] <jpds> desrt: Yes.
[15:57] <desrt> they finally caved to canonical's demands?
[23:36] <TheMuso> Good morning.
[23:37] <RAOF> Good moring!


[00:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'll do what i can.
[00:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> Work went late.
[00:12]  * tsimonq2 uploaded an image: (210KiB) < https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/linuxdelta.com/LswlSDsUqmMKTIYCVZAtxPct/20220805_183722.jpg >
[00:12] <tsimonq2> Babysitting lol
[00:13] <arraybolt3[m]> That's about what I'm doing lol, only my cat decided to take up residence right where my laptop usually goes, so now I'm having to use it in a very awkward position to still be able to type
[00:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> KITTAYS!!!
[00:14] <Eickmeyer[m]> arraybolt3[m]: That's me with my husky, no cap.
[00:15] <arraybolt3[m]> Man if she were the size of a husky I don't know what I'd do.
[00:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's typing and mouse gymnastics. I mean, not right now, but when I'm on my couch.
[00:16] <arraybolt3[m]> You should see me trying to type my password when she's on me cleaning herself. It's like I'm playing volleyball sitting down with how much my head moves around trying (and sometimes failing) to see the keyboard.
[01:09] <arraybolt3[m]> OK guys, signing off for now, see y'all tomorrow night! Thanks for everything!
[02:00] <Eickmeyer[m]> arraybolt3: I hope I didn't miss you, but I'm working on sponsoring your calamares-settings-ubuntu fix for jammy, and I have your debdiff. You've got a problem with your changelog entries, your versioning is wrong.
[02:04] <Eickmeyer[m]> Remember when Simon told you about the versioning needing to be <IP_ADDRESS> instead of 22.04.5? Similar situation applies here.
[02:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'll go ahead and fix it since it's trivial, but please remember it for the future.
[02:14] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (jammy-proposed/universe) [1:<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>] (lubuntu, ubuntustudio)
[17:59] <LeoK[m]> Calamares setting fix re:LibreOffice localisation didn't make it into todays Kinectic Lubuntu ISO arraybolt3
 "Calamares setting fix re:..." <- It is still unapproved. Queuebot has you covered here in Matrix or IRC. ^
[18:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> I only did the upload last night, probably won't get looked at until Monday.
[18:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's in Jammy.
[18:17] <kc2bez[m]> That makes sense.
[18:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> I didn't have the diff for Kinetic.
[21:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> OK, I scrolled back and I'll grab the diff for Kinetic and get it up.
[21:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> Uploaded and built, but hasn't hit proposed just yet.
[21:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> Just hit proposed if Leo K and arraybolt3 want to do some testing on kinetic without the .iso.
[21:50] <tsimonq2> Thank you very much
[21:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> You're welcome.
[21:50] <Eickmeyer[m]> I was playing a video game when I realized I needed to scroll back, so I built it on WSL, believe it or not. 😅


[07:32] <inetpro> good mornings
[12:05]  * Kilos waves
[14:09]  * paddatrapper waves at Kilos
[15:58] <Kilos> lol
[17:37] <Langjan> Hello all
[17:39] <Langjan> Long time no see Kilos, how are you keeping?
[17:39] <Kilos> hi Langjan still full of flu but improving ty and you guys?
[17:41] <Langjan> Well thks Kilos just started the fireplace-season this evening.
[17:42] <Kilos> eish im freezing
[17:42] <Langjan> Sjoe.  Not bad for less than R300 & free delivery
[17:49] <Kilos> yeah
[17:51] <Langjan> °
[17:51] <Langjan> compose key and oo
[17:52] <Langjan> So it was 9° this morning, peaking only 18°
[17:53] <Langjan> Hoping your 'flu will clear up soon...
[17:56] <Langjan> How are all my other mentors, andrewlsd, chesedo, inetpro, nuvolari_, paddatrapper, pavlushka, smile, superfly, thatgraemeguy, theblazehen?
[17:56] <smile> Hi Langjan
[17:56] <smile> I hope you're doing fine
[17:57] <pavlushka> Hello Langjan :) how are you?
[17:57] <Langjan> Good thks, how are the girls
[17:57] <smile> I got my website up & running again => me = happy
[17:57] <smile> Which girls :P
[17:57] <Langjan> great smile
[17:57] <Langjan> hi pavlushka you ok?
[17:57] <Langjan> I'm fine thks
[17:58] <Langjan> link please smile
[17:58] <smile> Langjan: http://hugsmile.eu
[17:58] <pavlushka> Langjan: yep
[17:58] <Langjan> Good
[17:59] <pavlushka> yes smile please smile  :p
[17:59] <smile> Depending on your browser settings, you will either receive the Dutch, English or Afrikaans version
[17:59] <smile> pavlushka: like that? -> :)
[17:59] <Langjan> I see English
[17:59] <Langjan> You got it in Afrikaans? Congrats!
[18:00] <Langjan> I see it, look great!
[18:03] <Kilos> lol girls fine ty Langjan
[18:03] <Langjan> Good Afrikaans too, very few mistakes
[18:03] <smile> Langjan: thanks, where do you spot mistakes?
[18:03] <Kilos> trying to sort something for supper
[18:03] <Langjan> Good Kilos send them my love
[18:04] <Langjan> Enjoy
[18:04] <Kilos> will do ty Langjan
[18:08] <smile> Langjan: is jy nog wakker?
[18:09] <smile> of is jy in slaap gesukkel?
[18:10] <Langjan> Lmga! Ek hoop ek is nog wakkker smile
[18:11] <smile> Hoekom, Langjan?  I need to set up a web server on my ubuntu server
[18:54] <jerit> any ideas to smooth out the process given I don't know what I'm doing?
[18:54] <jerit> I'd go for vestacp again but I don't like how it prefixes FTP usernames with admin_ all the time
[19:09] <inetpro> goeiemore
[19:10] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[19:10] <inetpro> Langjan: het jy reggekom met you Dondervoël?
[19:10] <inetpro> hi Kilos
[19:12] <inetpro> en die tyd loop al weer te vinnig, smile het jy 'n oplossing vir my?
[19:13] <inetpro> jerit: just google it... so may places where you can find info
[19:13] <jerit> inetpro I'm going through https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-14-04
[19:14] <jerit> to set it up manually but having a bit of a snag on sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5-mysql since the php5-mysql package apparently isn't available anymore and I dunno what to do now
[19:14] <jerit> php7-mysql isn't in the repo either it seems since apt-get couldn't locate it
[19:15] <inetpro> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lamp-overview.html
[19:16] <inetpro> one easy method is usually to simply install the LAMP stack with `sudo tasksel install lamp-server`
[19:16] <inetpro> all depends what you need/want to achieve
[19:17] <jerit> I just need a hosting environment to put websites on
[19:18] <inetpro> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-stack-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:18] <inetpro> use 16.04
[19:20] <inetpro> if you have time try to understand all the different components and install them separately... lots and lots of reading
[19:22]  * inetpro has to catch up on some sleep
[19:22] <inetpro> good night everyone and oom Kilos as well
[19:23] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep well
[19:23] <Langjan> Hi inetpro
[19:23] <inetpro> ai... nou word hy eers wakker?
[19:23] <Kilos> lol
[19:23] <Langjan> ek sit hom elke keer aan, nie op autostart nie dan werk hy goed dankie
[19:24] <inetpro> oom Jan, ou mense moet lankal slaap
[19:24] <Langjan> wies oud?
[19:24] <Kilos> typical what did you break
[19:24] <inetpro> haha :-)
[19:24] <Langjan> Ek lyk maar net so
[19:24] <Kilos> i need to sleep too guys
[19:24] <Langjan> Lekker slaap kl en inetpro
[19:24] <Kilos> nag oom jan, bly warm
[19:25] <Kilos> night everyone, sleep tight
[19:25] <Langjan> dankie Kilos jy ook
[19:25] <inetpro> Langjan: dankie
[19:25] <inetpro> nag mense
[19:25] <Langjan> slaap lekker inetpro
[19:26] <Langjan> Ek gaan ook duik, mooi loop almal
[19:28] <jerit> dpkg is returning an error, not sure what to do about it... tried sudo dkpg --configure -a and found there were errors while processing mysql-server so I purged it but the error persisted, can someone take a look? https://pastebin.com/BN9H0FAS
[19:43] <jerit> only on linux will you spend half an hour trying to install 1 bit of software...
[19:44] <tumbleweed> did you see the bits on line 22-24 where it told you what was wrong, and what to do about it?
[19:46] <jerit> frankly I didn't even know I'm downgrading anything... anyway I renamed the file to debian-10.0.0.flag.backup and then tried again... got this https://pastebin.com/zQBysVB8
[19:46] <tumbleweed> I'd say delete it, don't move it
[19:47] <tumbleweed> I'm guessing you're migrating from mariadb 10 to mysql 5.7?
[19:47] <tumbleweed> and the mysql package is considering that to be a downgrade
[19:48] <tumbleweed> there isn't a mysql 10
[19:48] <jerit> I literally have no idea. This is basically the first time I'm logging onto this system
[19:48] <jerit> I dunno whats installed on it, I just know I need a lamp stack to host websites that require php and mysql and I need to install sftp as well
[19:48] <jerit> I've already got apache set up
[19:49] <tumbleweed> then talk to the people who do know things about it?
[19:50] <tumbleweed> before that paste, somehow you / someone else got the installed packages into an inconsistent state
[20:16] <jerit> Did this thing -> https://askubuntu.com/a/789856/377312 got this stuff out -> https://pastebin.com/V2GXH4h5 ... something about a 'unix_socket' plugin or other


[05:04] <s1aden> oooh, cool, I have a Unity Launcher screen-burnt into my laptop display
[05:07] <lifeless> noice
[05:07] <lifeless> I didn't think modern laptops suffered burnin
[05:08]  * s1aden neither...
[05:10] <sladen> shows up under purple (eg. #6d1d4a).  It's the 100%-white CoF in the top left that is really visible
[05:38] <micahg> infinity: does the following look transient? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/118757501/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armhf.openssl_1.0.1c-3ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[05:42] <infinity> micahg: Looks like cosmic rays.
[05:42] <micahg> infinity: ok, retrying, thanks
[05:42] <infinity> micahg: (Or possibly filesystem dying)
[05:42] <micahg> ah, you did already :)
[05:43] <infinity> micahg: Can you make a note to bug webops (or ask me to) to check sigbin for kernel messages after the weekend?
[05:43] <micahg> infinity: can try, but I'm off Mon/Tue
[05:43] <infinity> Yeah, I'm off Monday too.
[05:43] <infinity> I'll try to remember.
[05:44] <infinity> micahg: Though, sigbin's build history doesn't look sketchy, so cosmic rays seem more likely.
[05:44] <infinity> micahg: Unless it really is a toolchain bug that broke the build, but it better not be...
[05:45] <micahg> well, last time it was built was 3 months ago, so that's possible
[05:45] <infinity> micahg: Yeah, but a toolchain bug on only one (sub)arch is disconcerting.
[05:45] <infinity> micahg: So, I'm hoping not.
[05:46]  * micahg too, especially at this stage of the game
[05:46] <infinity> Ed Zachary.
[05:47] <infinity> Well, we'll find out in a few minutes, I guess.
[05:50] <infinity> micahg: It failed at ~7m in, right?
[05:51] <micahg> ~8
[05:51] <infinity> Kay.  We're probably close to or passed where it died, though I didn't make a note of the file it choked on.
[05:51] <micahg> eng_dyn.c
[05:51] <infinity> Oh, the log's still there.  Handy.
[05:52]  * micahg had it open in a tab regardless
[05:52] <infinity> Yeah, it's passed where it failed.
[05:52] <infinity> \o/
[05:54] <micahg> great, one less thing to fix
[05:55] <infinity> Replacing these glorified cell phones can't come a moment too soon.
[05:55] <infinity> Still, I may have to waste some of my long weekend on trying to figure out shoestring and bubblegum hacks to get us to hobble along until then. :/
[05:56] <infinity> THe easiest way might just be to throw the natty or oneiric kernel on a couple machines, and aim problematic builds at them.  But that seems like a last resort "eww" solution, if I can't proc-tune these into submission.
[05:57] <micahg> infinity: it it gets arm* builds for Firefox/Thunderbird, I'll take it
[05:57] <infinity> Pretty sure that would fix up wekbit/ffox/tbird, but it introduces other problems.
[05:57] <infinity> So, it's an irksome tradeoff.
[05:58] <infinity> Hence the proc-tuning and trying to hunt ways to make buildd-manager less touchy first.
[05:58] <infinity> But we're running out of time, obviously.
[13:42] <geser> zul: your (binary) package "python-ceilometer" (ceilometer) has two typos in its dependencies: "python-iso9601" should be "python-iso8601" and "python-sqlaclhemy" should be "python-sqlalchemy" (you got it right in Build-Depends but not Depends for the binary package)
[13:42] <zul> geser:  please open up a bug ill look at it monday
[13:55] <infinity> geser, zul: Fixed.
[18:01] <dupondje> Seems we do not support Samsung Galaxy S3 :(
[18:08] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/903422
[18:08] <dupondje> High for Precise, Whishlist for Quantal ?!
[18:54] <maxb> dupondje: Precise will talk fine to an S3 in Camera (PTP) mode. I did that yesterday
[18:54] <maxb> Full MTP support would be *nice*, but not essential, as far as I can see
[19:01] <dupondje> maxb: libmtp seems to support it, but gphoto2 not, but ubuntu seems to use gphoto2 as default?
[20:17] <dupondje> maxb: PTP mode doesnt show SD card data neither?
[20:49] <maxb> dupondje: Hm, it did for me
[20:50] <maxb> It seemed to enable nautilus to address files under the root /mnt/sdcard (but that wasn't a real sdcard)
[20:51] <dupondje> maxb: well it shows sd card in nautilus, but its all empty
[20:51] <dupondje> so :)
[20:51] <maxb> I was able to copy files to the device and subsequently play them
[20:54]  * dupondje compiling libgphoto2 2.5.0, lets see what that gives
[21:37] <dupondje> bleh, seems a mess compiling a new version :(
[22:17] <mwhudson> i presume complaining about the usn-1592-1 updates breaking virtualenvs has happened already?
[23:44] <soniah> I'm looking for a sponsor for https://code.launchpad.net/~sonia/ubuntu/quantal/vim-scripts/fix-for-31204/+merge/126966
[23:45] <soniah> Is there anything else I need to do? More a question about process, as I'm unsure how the process works...