[04:35] <duanedesign> hello all
[04:35] <mysteriousdaren> peace duanedesign
[04:37] <duanedesign> hello mysteriousdaren
[04:37] <mysteriousdaren> what have you been up to?
[04:38] <duanedesign> do I know you or are you a recent addiion yo our channel?
[04:39] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: I justt spent 30 minutes hooking my DVD player into my stereo so i could watch my Blind Melon and Neil Your DVDs
[04:39] <mysteriousdaren> no, I've been on for years
[04:39] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: I hope you some back more :)
[04:40] <duanedesign> i also ned to work on a program of mine real bad. mysteriousdaren do you know python, or pachaging very well? :)
[04:42] <mysteriousdaren> sorry to disappoint on python, only a beginner on that front
[04:54] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: get it all figured out? its not all about knowledge you know...wisdom is seeking help when needed.
[06:19] <duanedesign> sorry had a cat knock over some over some plants. It was nice talking with you mysteriousdaren
[06:38] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: yes it was
[06:40] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: do you participate i the community aa all?
[06:41] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: yes, just been busy for the last while, I am slowly working to gain full membership
[06:43] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: are you?
[06:51] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: do you lie working on thr wiki ir bugd, for a  few esmplrd
[06:52] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: i like updting wiki pwr
[06:53] <duanedesign> s.pwr/pages
[06:53] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: yes. I usually help users more than update the wiki getting back into ubuntu forums
[06:55] <duanedesign> when I am not trying to develop new apps, which is time consuming
[06:56] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: yes, true. What are you working atm?
[06:56] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: of awesome, helping new users is a great way to contribute
[06:57] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: are you running UBuntu or a #buntu variant?
[06:58] <mysteriousdaren> Lubuntu 12.10, Ubuntu Server 12.04, and Ubuntu 12.10.
[06:59] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren:  this is my recent project, turning out to be popular, i was kinda suprised
[06:59] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/clicompanion
[06:59] <duanedesign> if you have time could try the deb on ubuntu 12.10
[07:00] <duanedesign> we dont have a ppa yet for 12.10
[07:01] <duanedesign> the app installs very litle if you decide you do not want to use it
[07:02] <duanedesign> it is a commmand line, like gnome-trminal, but has the ability to store commands yo
[07:02] <duanedesign> I got tired of hsving a hugr word doc with al the commands I come acroxx
[07:03] <duanedesign> s.acroxx/across
[07:03] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: it looks interesting,  I might have use for it
[07:05] <duanedesign> we recentlt addded a keyboard shortcut to hide all the 'command dictionary' stuff so it ast just like gnome-terminal when you are not adding or using your stored commwnf lidt
[07:05] <duanedesign> lidt*
[07:06] <mysteriousdaren> duane: are you alone in this?
[07:06] <duanedesign> ugh, dark here, maybe I should turn on some ights, my typing id poor
[07:07] <mysteriousdaren> true, I have light from my screen to help me.
[07:07] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: I did a large portion of it mysef. I have others hlp on some critical stuff
[07:07] <mysteriousdaren>  nvm i just read the contributors
[07:08] <duanedesign> most have gone back to school or are busy with work
[07:08] <duanedesign> they did some great work
[07:09] <mysteriousdaren> I'm not a python person, do graphic design mostly
[07:10] <duanedesign> haha, i ama graphic designer myself
[07:10] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/clicompanion/1.0/1.1/+download/clicompanion_1.1-6__bzr109_all.deb
[07:11] <mysteriousdaren> I should add it to stumbleupon
[07:11] <duanedesign> that should be the latest deb without using the ppa. i am working on a 12.10 PPA
[07:12] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: that would begreat
[07:13] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: programming should suffice? or computer science? linux?
[07:14] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: someone already did, I just liked it
[07:15] <duanedesign> h,, linux, ubuntu
[07:16] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: well thanks for the thought
[07:18] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: here is an old screenshot
[07:21] <duanedesign> we have added a lot since, but it gets the idea across http://tinyurl.com/auchmg8
[07:23] <duanedesign> you add commands with add buton and can then run them by double-clicking the command in the list
[07:23] <duanedesign> listen to me babble on...
[07:25] <duanedesign> been s projrct I worked on g=for a couple years so I get excitefd talking about it :)
[07:27] <duanedesign> also have another project that takeas all the best info and how tos and organixrs thenand mskes them acesiblr in Yelp
[07:30] <mysteriousdaren> in lubuntu 12.04 on my netbook it just crashed
[07:30] <mysteriousdaren> if I send a crash report do you see it? or should I put it on launchpad?
[07:31] <duanedesign> ok if you run it from the terminal using the command clicompanion hopefully you eill get s traceback
[07:32] <mysteriousdaren> ok
[07:33] <duanedesign> could you pastebin it, that would be awesome!
[07:33] <duanedesign> http://pastebin.com/
[07:33] <duanedesign> or email it to me, ill PM my email
[07:36] <mysteriousdaren> no. sorry I just put ignore on next time it opens. I'll reinstall next time and give it to you when we are both on
[07:36] <duanedesign> one big goal is to get CLI Companion to run on as many didtros sd possinl]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]][[[
[07:36] <mysteriousdaren> nvm, Ill do it now
[07:37] <duanedesign> sorry abou the extra crud their. cat wanted to type
[07:40] <mysteriousdaren> im reinstalling, and will post the bug
[07:41] <mysteriousdaren> it won't even run now, just ignores the warnings. Ill have to do this on a vm that I have set up another time
[07:44] <duanedesign> what version of lubuntu?
[07:45] <mysteriousdaren> 12.04
[07:46] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: i remmbe this https://lists.launchpad.net/clicompanion-devs/msg00099.html
[07:48] <mysteriousdaren> it installed both those packages on install
[07:50] <duanedesign> of coool, well not cool it wont run.
[07:50] <duanedesign> I might install a Lubuntu VM
[07:51] <duanedesign> thanks a ton for your help
[07:51] <mysteriousdaren> good idea
[07:51] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: every bit helps
[07:51] <mysteriousdaren> yup anytime
[07:52] <duanedesign> you should join the beginners team if you have not already. The mailing list is very low volume
[07:52] <mysteriousdaren> link please?
[07:54] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners
[07:55] <duanedesign> it is an open team so no one will have to approve your membership
[07:57] <duanedesign> The team is full of grat people with all kinds of skill sets. We would love to havre you\
[08:00] <mysteriousdaren> ok thanks, Im reading on ubuntu forums right now a little distracted
[08:02] <duanedesign>  mysteriousdaren no worries
[08:03] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: if you dont mind where about are you
[08:03] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: I am in U.S. OKlahoma
[08:03] <mysteriousdaren> mt
[08:03] <duanedesign> off cool
[08:03] <duanedesign> one of our members bodhizazen is in Montana
[08:04] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: I think that i where my VPS is as well :)
[08:05] <mysteriousdaren> 'Missoula, Bozeman, or Billings usually. What company?
[08:06] <duanedesign> glad you are sticking with the forums instead of askubuntu. I am sure you probably do both
[08:07] <duanedesign> also have another project that takeas all the best info and how tos and organixrs thenand mskes them acesiblr in Yelp need a vps have one (free too)
[08:07] <duanedesign> sorry about that
[08:07] <duanedesign> not sure what happened
[08:08] <mysteriousdaren> no worries don't like askubuntu much, the forums just work well
[08:08] <duanedesign> bodhizazen has a server he lets us Beginners Team members use for free if we need it
[08:09] <duanedesign> I host my website, blog and run this instance of irssi on my vps
[08:09] <duanedesign> nice to have irssi connected all the time
[08:10] <duanedesign> that way i never miss any IRC action ;)
[08:11] <mysteriousdaren> bodhi:)
[08:15] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: you will run into bodhi soon he i here a lot.
[08:15] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: I know he has helped me several times
[08:16] <duanedesign> great guy!
[08:16] <mysteriousdaren> as the say in Mt the man, the myth, and the legend. BODI!
[08:16] <duanedesign> and i am not just saying that for the 2 years of freee vps :D
[08:17] <duanedesign> mysteriousdaren: forums still messing up?
[08:17] <mysteriousdaren> no, just reading where I can help
[08:18] <mysteriousdaren> irssi? how do you like it? i prefer xchat I guess, tried most everything else.
[08:24] <mysteriousdaren> duanedesign: I have to go to bed, goodnight
[16:25] <pip__> Is there still a 12.04 non-pae iso available?
[16:25] <pip__> mini iso even
[16:25] <pip__> ?
[18:25]  * SnowmanX11 is away: I'm busy.../Elfoglalt vagyok, ne zavarj!
[18:26]  * SnowmanX11 is back (gone 00:00:39)


[11:21] <xu-irc13w> the 1st reason i change from windows to ubunto and xubuntu was the irc live help, its been more than 10 years, and i havent need to use windows at all, thanks for all the live support<3 <3  <3
[13:43] <GridCloud> tomreyn: thanks for the data on the nvme question, i'll report when i have tried installing :D
[15:40] <xu-irc1w> hello :)
[15:45] <GridCloud> hi
[15:46] <bittin> hi
[15:49] <xu-irc1w> I see impish indri launched on ubuntu.com. How long( in hours) will it for xfce version to be launched? I'm eagerly waiting  :)
[15:50] <krytarik> All flavors are released at the same time as Ubuntu main.
[15:50] <bittin> in a couple of hours i think
[15:52] <krytarik> Updating the various websites and download links is another story though.  And checking ubuntu.com, that's not even true for Ubuntu main yet either.
[15:53] <bittin> krytarik, its on the iso mirror however
[15:54] <bittin> Ubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Unity that is pretty sure, Xubuntu, Lubuntu and Kubuntu will be up later tonight tho
[15:54] <krytarik> You mean the main server.. while the mirrors is the thing the release team is waiting on..
[15:55] <bittin> ah yeah
[15:55] <bittin> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ that is
[16:08] <xu-irc1w> Thanks https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/21.10/release/xubuntu-21.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[16:08] <bittin> thx
[21:30] <GuiToris> hello, 'Xubuntu 21.10 is a regular release which was released in October 2021' where can it be downloaded?
[21:46] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/21.10/release/ most likely
[21:53] <GuiToris> thank you, I don't know why it's so hidden
[21:55] <krytarik> Lack of people who know how to properly twiddle the various website bits for it really.


[00:00] <ubuntu> yep
[00:00] <cor> have fun with that!
[00:00] <ubuntu> well, it's been a real pleasure taling to you, man
[00:00] <cor> np, it was fun!
[00:00] <ubuntu> do appreciate it
[00:01] <cor> it's good to see folks getting sh*t workin
[00:01] <ubuntu> just need some time to digest it. really nice job there
[00:01] <ubuntu> yeah
[00:01] <cor> yeah, there's a lot to learn, but help is always on hand
[00:01] <ubuntu> thanks dude. it really rock
[00:02] <cor> kewl, r8, I'm gonna bash this bash!
[00:02] <ubuntu> so, i'll see you around in a while, then
[00:02] <cor> fo sho! l*rz
[00:02] <ubuntu> take care
[00:12] <Slapknuts> has anyone been having trouble with Wine and installing the authorization keys?
[00:18] <CyberKitsune> What package is this header in:?
[00:18] <CyberKitsune>  error: net/ieee80211.h: No such file or directory
[00:18] <CyberKitsune> cor, do you know?
[00:19] <seattlegaucho> CyberKitsune: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+package+%22net%2Fieee80211.h%22&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B5_____enUS340US340&ie=UTF-8
[00:19] <CyberKitsune> No resulys
[00:19] <CyberKitsune> Results*
[00:19] <CyberKitsune> Wait
[00:19]  * CyberKitsune facepalm
[00:19] <CyberKitsune> never trust a preview
[00:20] <seattlegaucho> 3rd result, which I assume is what you're looking for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:21] <cor> ho! what!
[00:21]  * cor scrolls
[00:21] <cor> pffff no idea
[00:23] <cor> aren't all headers a part of the kernel package?
[00:26] <CyberKitsune> WTF? It comes with linux-headers, yet it's not in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-02063003-generic/net
[00:28] <CyberKitsune> !intel
[00:29] <Slapknuts> has anyone had trouble trying to import the wine hq keys?
[00:31] <Slapknuts> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/jaunty.list
[00:31] <Slapknuts> Resolving wine.budgetdedicated.com... <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:31] <Slapknuts> Connecting to wine.budgetdedicated.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... failed: Connectionrefused.
[00:33] <cor> install with shell as root, bypass keys
[00:33] <Slapknuts> ok lemme try that
[00:34] <cor> just as an interim measure ;o)
[00:35] <Slapknuts> ty cor - I'm installing the root-bin system now
[00:37] <rubyist> how can i have KDE open all links with firefox & not konqueror
[00:37] <Dragnslcr> System Settings -> Default Applications
[00:39] <rubyist> Dragnslcr: thx
[00:44] <PSiL0> !ati
[00:45] <Slapknuts> ok installed root but it installed some sort of c++ compiling program
[00:45] <Slapknuts> I'm going to download and reinstall ubuntu
[01:08] <Pseudonym> Having a problem exiting from a "man" system command.
[01:08] <Pseudonym> Try "man ls" in console. How do i exit this program?>
[01:09] <Pseudonym> Any help?
[01:10] <Pseudonym> Hello?
[01:10] <cor> q
[01:10] <PSiL0> Pseudonym: Ctrl-Z
[01:10] <Pseudonym> kk thx alot
[01:10] <cor> ouch!
[01:28] <mizerydearia> In Synaptic Settings -> Repository: Updates tab I selected Pre-released updates (jaunty-proposed) as well as Unsupported updates (jaunty-bacports).  I don't see kde 4.3 available for installation/upgrade however.  How do I install KDE 4.3?
[01:29] <cor> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:29] <cor> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8AC93F7A
[01:29] <cor> sudo aptitude update
[01:30] <cor> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[01:30] <cor> add the first line to your /etc/apt/sources, or use the GUI in synaptic
[01:30] <cor> sources.list, that is
[01:34] <mizerydearia> thanks
[01:35] <cor> np. I got a list of cool ppa + key commands right here!
[01:35] <cor> I was just updating some
[01:36] <cor> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:36] <cor> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu jaunty main
[01:36] <cor> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7613768D
[01:36] <cor> oops! ;o)
[01:36] <m3xican_> hi
[01:37] <cor> let's play "Guess the Nationality!"
 :-P
[01:38] <cor> you must have installed time-machine
[01:38] <cor> dunno, I disabled that annoying thing ages ago. I guess it's not so rare
[01:39] <cor> 4.3.1 isn't ready until it's packages are!
[01:40] <mizerydearia> cor, I did all that you posted, and in Synaptics, searching for KDE and sorting Latest Version column, I see 4.2.2, but no 4.3
[01:40] <m3xican_> yes, and 1 + 1 = 2
[01:40] <cor> well, that's how I got KDE 4.3!
[01:40] <cor> I did it all in the shell, though
[01:42] <cor> you did update, right?
[01:42] <mizerydearia> I `aptitude update`d and `aptitude safe-upgrade`d
[01:43] <cor> sudo
[01:43] <mizerydearia> I am at shell, also
[01:43] <mizerydearia> I `sudo su`ed already
[01:43] <mizerydearia> so everything is already run as root
[01:43] <cor> sudo -i
[01:43] <cor> handy, yup
[01:44] <cor> did the safe-upgrade not install any files?
[01:48] <CyberKitsune> My Mic isn't working in apps, Like Skype or Audacity, but if I turn it up in kmix, I can hear it
[01:48] <CyberKitsune> any help?
[01:54] <mizerydearia> I am logged in as user now and will exec commands against, but prefix with sudo this time
[01:54] <mizerydearia> against==again
[01:55] <cor> CyberKitsune,  in your system setting >> multimedia, are all catagories set to use the correct devices?
[01:55] <cor> mizerydearia, the root login should have been just fine
[01:55] <CyberKitsune> Yes
[01:55] <cor> sudo is essentially the same thing
[01:55] <CyberKitsune> they are
[01:56] <mizerydearia> cor: I figured, but it wasn't working =/
[01:56] <CyberKitsune> Like I said, kmix can output it, but apps can't access it I think...
[01:56] <cor> I had a similar issue, and setup one again, and told it to "apply this config to all", and it fixed it. maybe for you too
[01:56] <CyberKitsune> ok, I'll try that
[01:57] <cor> and check kmixes unchecked sliders, there may be a box needs to be checked, unchecked, and ensure the mic *is* the default recording device, not some other input
[01:58] <alokito> how to change user image in kde4?
[01:58] <alokito> im getting this error: Your administrator has disallowed changing your image.
[01:58] <alokito> even when I use sudo!
[01:58] <CyberKitsune> cor: The apply to all and checking show advanced devices in the Multimedia KCM worked like a charm :)
[01:59] <cor> kewl! ;o)
[01:59] <CyberKitsune> I can now skype again ;D
[01:59] <mizerydearia> cor: I just noticed your additional comments before "oops!" and am running `apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7613768D` and it is stuck on gpg: requesting key 7613768D from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <cor> maybe the server is down. try pinging the domain
[02:00] <mizerydearia> responds to ping
[02:00] <cor> but even without matching keys, root/sudo can install packages. you get a warning, is all
[02:00] <mizerydearia> but maybe port is forwarded to another device
[02:00] <mizerydearia> mm
[02:00] <cor> perhaps, yup
[02:01] <cor> I gotta go get something to eat! bbl folks
[02:02] <mizerydearia> cor: With the updated /etc/apt/sources.list entries, `aptitude safe-upgrade` adds a few extra files, but nothing KDE-related.
[02:07] <CyberKitsune> We talking about the KDE 4.3 update?
[02:08] <mizerydearia> `gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv <key>` is no longer working for some reason...it stalls after requesting key.  Any ideas?
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> The server may be down
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> try pinging it
[02:08] <mizerydearia> I just did...it responds to ping
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> ah
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> well
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> idk
[02:08] <CyberKitsune> let me try
[02:09] <mizerydearia> it resolves to esperanza.canonical.com
[02:09] <mizerydearia> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:09] <mizerydearia> same for you?
[02:09] <CyberKitsune> Thats correct
[02:09] <CyberKitsune> yes
[02:09] <mizerydearia> Is there an alternative keyserver I could specify?
[02:10] <CyberKitsune> You could try using the ip
[02:10] <CyberKitsune> wait...
[02:10] <mizerydearia> same with ip  - http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/keyservers/2002-March/000001.html references nyfss.org as keyserver
[02:10] <CyberKitsune> It's not giving me the key with your command either
[02:11] <CyberKitsune> apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 7613768D
[02:11] <mizerydearia> mm
[02:11] <CyberKitsune> hangs
[02:11] <mizerydearia> I'll try that
[02:11] <mizerydearia> hmm
[02:11] <CyberKitsune> Yeah, the keyserver is down
[02:12] <mizerydearia> and there is no alternative keyserver? :3
[02:12] <CyberKitsune> at least the app on the server
[02:12] <CyberKitsune> I don't know
[02:12] <mizerydearia> ah, it's been down for 6+ hours: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/81538
[02:14] <CyberKitsune> launchpad is really screwing up this week
[02:14] <CyberKitsune> first they pull the KDE 4.3 packages from backports
[02:14] <CyberKitsune> now this
[02:15] <mizerydearia> ooh, they've been pulled?  =/
[02:15] <CyberKitsune> Yep
[02:15] <mizerydearia> gah
[02:16] <mizerydearia> Is there an alternative way I can install?  from source directly I suppose?
[02:16] <CyberKitsune> I heard they were just preparing for 4.3.1
[02:16] <CyberKitsune> Which is out tomorrow
[02:16] <mizerydearia> mm
[02:16] <CyberKitsune> I'd just wait till tomorrow anyway
[02:17] <CyberKitsune> I heard there were some serious issues with 4.3.0 that were fixed in 4.3.1
[02:18] <mizerydearia> How do I restart X from console?  `/etc/init.d/x11-common restart`?
[02:20] <mizerydearia> mizerydearia, /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[02:20] <mizerydearia> ah, thanks...
[02:25] <codevarun> hi
[02:25] <codevarun> how are you?
[02:25] <codevarun> I need help
[02:27] <skeeter33> I am having trouble with getting DVDs to play properly. I've installed libdvdcss2, libdvdnav4, and libdvdread4. When I use VLC to try to play the DVD the player looks like it will start(ie. next/previous chapter buttions appear), but then it goes away and nothing happens. Anyone have this prob?
[02:28] <skeeter33> The DVDs won't play in Kaffeine or mplayer either. Also both CDs and DVDs mount, but only CDs play.
[02:29] <codevarun> skeeter33 I have the latest vlc and its running
[02:29] <codevarun> do one thing copy it and then try to run
[02:29] <codevarun> :D
[02:29] <skeeter33> I'll check to make sure VLC is up to date. Thanks.
[02:30] <codevarun> okay my problem is very common.. I am using the HCL leaptop and the speaker don't mute when I insert headphone
[02:30] <codevarun> you are welcome
[02:30] <codevarun> anyone?
[02:30] <codevarun> can help me?
[02:31] <codevarun> okay my problem is very common.. I am using the HCL leaptop and the speaker don't mute when I insert headphone
[02:39] <codevarun> help me
[02:39] <codevarun> can anyone hear me?
[02:40] <EDinNY> codevarun: nope
[02:41] <codevarun> ediny
[02:41] <codevarun> are you there?
[02:41] <EDinNY> nope
[02:41] <codevarun> okay my problem is very common.. I am using the HCL leaptop and the speaker don't mute when I insert headphone
[02:41] <codevarun> pls help me
[02:42] <EDinNY> as far as I know, on most laptops and other audio devices, when you plug in a headset, it phisically throws a switch which turns off the speakers
[02:42] <codevarun> ya
[02:42] <EDinNY> do you hear it out of both?
[02:42] <codevarun> yes
[02:42] <codevarun> I am hearing both
[02:42] <EDinNY> does it work correctly in Windows?
[02:42] <codevarun> it was fine in windows
[02:43] <EDinNY> part of the problem is most people do not know how to fix problems they have not seen
[02:44] <codevarun> k
[02:44] <codevarun> so you know it?
[02:44] <EDinNY> have you looked at kmix?
[02:44] <codevarun> ya
[02:44] <codevarun> it doesn't fix that
[02:44] <EDinNY> does it have multiple outputs listed?
[02:44] <codevarun> no
[02:44] <EDinNY> what sound chip is in the laptop?
[02:44] <codevarun> Thats the realtech
[02:45] <codevarun> and motorola I actually entered a command
[02:45] <codevarun> that i don't remember now
[02:45] <codevarun> :D
[02:45] <codevarun> i am new to ubuntu
[02:46] <EDinNY> press the K and go to Systems->system settings
[02:46] <EDinNY> click on "multimedia".  what is the chip?
[02:46] <codevarun> i am in ubuntu
[02:46] <codevarun> not on kubuntu
[02:47] <codevarun> noone was replying in ubuntu
[02:47] <codevarun> :(
[02:47] <EDinNY> this is kubuntu.  there is probably a similar system settings widget
[02:47] <codevarun> no its not where you are saying
[02:47] <codevarun> :(
[02:48] <EDinNY> well, I don't have ubuntu so I can't help you.  install kubuntu instead, then come back if you have a problem
[02:48] <EDinNY> g'day
[02:48] <codevarun> i have ask for the cd lets see when it will come
[02:49] <codevarun> well will you tell me which is better?
[02:49] <codevarun> kubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:49] <codevarun> I am new
[02:49] <EDinNY> First you tell me which religion is better, or which color is better.
[02:49] <EDinNY> lol
[02:49] <EDinNY> the best distribution is...
[02:49] <EDinNY> one you can get help with locally
[02:50] <EDinNY> if I say anything else I will start a flame war!  But, here most people think KDE is better.  that is why they are here
[02:50] <codevarun> well i don't beleive in god or all religion are just to fight with eachother
[02:50] <codevarun> and about the color that depends on nature
[02:50] <EDinNY> arguing which is better is probably off-topic here
[02:51] <EDinNY> the question was retorical
[02:51]  * _3vi1_ is back.
[02:51] <codevarun> ok
[02:51] <codevarun> I am new at english as well
[02:51] <codevarun> :D
[02:51] <codevarun> what is retorical?
[02:51] <EDinNY> That means I am asking a question that I don't really want the answer to.
[02:51] <codevarun> ok thanks it addup my vocab
[02:52] <EDinNY> I asked the question because it is the same as asking if gnome is better than kde
[02:52] <EDinNY> or which distro of linux is better
[02:52] <EDinNY> For the most part, all the major ones work and are well supported
[02:53] <EDinNY> some might work better on one laptop than another, and no, I can't tell you which
[02:53] <EDinNY> google your laptop model and linux and see what others have found works
[02:53] <mizerydearia> If I want to install gnome also, is it possible with Kubuntu, or would it break things?
[02:54] <codevarun_>  now will you tell me how can i register here permanent
[02:54] <codevarun_> [07:22] <codevarun> with my nickname?
[02:54] <codevarun_> [07:23] <codevarun> sorry I got dc
[02:54] <EDinNY> if you installed ubuntu you should already have gnome
[02:54] <codevarun_> ya I have gnome
[02:55] <codevarun_> now I want kubuntu where at least my dad don't hear me while I talking to my GF
[02:55] <codevarun_> :D
[02:55] <EDinNY> I think "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you kubuntu too...anyone?
[02:55] <Kovert> can some one help with a disasterious update I have ended with a read only fs
[02:55] <codevarun_> really?
[02:56] <EDinNY> codevarun I think so.  If it does not work it will not break it.  It WILL install a lot of code, though.  depending on your speed, start it and take a break
[02:56] <codevarun_> i have started that
[02:56] <Kovert> tried sudo mount -o remount,re /
[02:56] <codevarun_> 68 mb
[02:56] <Kovert> sorry rw /
[02:56] <codevarun_> will take 2 hours
[02:57] <codevarun_> ok ediny how can i register here?
[02:57] <EDinNY> Kovert: how did it end up ro?
[02:57] <Kovert> EDinNY crased during update
[02:57] <codevarun_> is not a valid email address. I am receiving this
[02:57] <EDinNY> If you type "mount", does it say it is ro or rw?
[02:58] <EDinNY> sorry codevarun.  don't remember.
[02:58] <EDinNY> kovert, what does "mount" say? what happens when you reboot?
[02:59] <Kovert> says (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:59] <Kovert> codevarun /NickServ
[03:00] <EDinNY> if it is your root directory, you might want to boot to a live cd and run " fsck -f "on the partition.
[03:00] <Kovert> ED tried that from the safe boot
[03:00] <Kovert> sorry EDinNY
[03:01] <EDinNY> not sure you can do that from safe boot.  did it complain?
[03:01] <Kovert> yes and fixed a bunch of stuff
[03:01] <EDinNY> is /home a separate partition?
[03:02] <Kovert> EDinNY no a folder on sda
[03:03] <EDinNY> next time you want to make /home a separate partition.  /var too.  There are reasons for this, but I don't fee like typing them.   I like /opt or /usr/local too, but if you are not compiling your own code you probably will not use them
[03:03] <EDinNY> the reason /home needs to be separate is so that when you re-install, like you might do now, you don't loose your home folders
[03:04] <Kovert> EDinNY ok what about this time :-)
[03:04] <EDinNY> do you have stuff in you home folder?
[03:04] <Kovert> EDinNY I dont want to reinstall in other words yes
[03:05] <EDinNY> you can boot to a live cd, mount your partitoin, and tar up your home dir to another drive or a thumb drive
[03:05] <Kovert> EDinNY good point
[03:06] <EDinNY> You will loose your settings, and not sure about your email and it's settings since I don't know which you use
[03:06] <Kovert> EDinNY much rather fix this
[03:07] <EDinNY> you could use find and cpio to create a COMPLETE backup of your /home
[03:07] <Kovert> i am rebooting again under repair mode
[03:07] <Kovert> EDinNY to many databases etc
[03:07] <EDinNY> other than that, I don't have an easy way to do it.  next time BACK UP DATA
[03:07] <EDinNY> oh, you mean mysql?
[03:08] <Kovert> yes
[03:08] <EDinNY> mysql is stored in /var
[03:08] <EDinNY> if /var was a different partition...
[03:08] <Kovert> EDinNY yeah but there must be a way of fixing this
[03:09] <EDinNY> If it were me...
[03:09] <EDinNY> what kind of hard drives?  scsi or ide or serial?
[03:10] <Kovert> ED virtual
[03:10] <Kovert> ide
[03:10] <Kovert> EDinNYfsck is now clean
[03:10] <EDinNY> ok!
[03:11] <EDinNY> so does it boot correctly now?
[03:11] <Kovert> EDinNY fixing dkpg now
[03:11] <mizerydearia> since KDE 4.3 was removed from backports, and supposedly 4.3.1 will somehow be made available tomorrow (according to at least one person), but I want to try 4.3/4.3.x right now, what can I do to try it?  install from source?
[03:12] <Kovert> EDinNY booting
[03:12] <EDinNY> if it were my mission critical server, I would buy a new ide drive (they are cheap), install in new drive.  then move over data from old drive
[03:13] <Kovert> EDinNY vmware on a test box
[03:13] <EDinNY> and when I did the new install I would make sure I used multiple partitons
[03:14] <EDinNY> That way if you blow away your / partition you don't blow away /home or /var
[03:16] <dihi> Hey guys, in order to print on my universities network printers i need to add an argument to the print command telling it what user I am. I can install the printer with the search for printer function but i dont know how to tell the printer which user I am. Any help? thanks THe command I have to add is "-U username"
[03:37] <ubuntu> trying to run Camstudio screen recorder under wine. installed - launches OK. any help on codecs will be appreciated
[03:39] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu: What for? :o
[03:39] <leaf-sheep> !screencasts | ubuntu
[03:39] <EDinNY> what kind of help?  it generates flash
[03:40] <ubuntu> ubottu: i am not happy with recordmydesktop
[03:40] <ubuntu> it's very basic
[03:41] <ubuntu> tried vnc2flv
[03:41] <skeeter33> hey! back again! Looking to map the fn+F5/F6 key to fix brightness up/dwn respectively. Currently brightness cannot be adjusted. THanks!
[03:41] <ubuntu> does the job very nicely. happy with it
[03:41] <ubuntu> not sure re Istanbul though. what format does it output?
[03:43] <Bookman> How do I run the gnome network manager under Kubuntu in order to get my wireless working like it does under Ubuntu?
[03:43] <ubuntu> leaf-sheep: !screencast ... is it a shell command to run?
[03:43] <rav> hello. i'm having problems connecting to wpa networks with my atheros card, is there a way to fix this?
[03:44] <EDinNY> Bookman does it start if you type "networkmanager" in a konsole?
[03:45] <Bookman> EDinNY: I have to reboot to give that a shot in kde!
[03:45] <Bookman> EDinNY: won't that conflict with the default kde network manager?
[03:46] <EDinNY> network devices are started by whatever
[03:46] <EDinNY> if the kde manager does not start it, nobody should care
[03:46] <BluesKaj> rav, I have an atheros card and I installed wicd network manager
[03:46] <BluesKaj> works well
[03:46]  * EDinNY is not a wifi expert
[03:47] <rav> BluesKaj: doesn't wicd conflict with KDE's network manager?
[03:47] <EDinNY> I still need to get around to getting MY wifi working lol.  Since I upgraded from 7.04...
[03:47] <EDinNY> or was it 6.04?
[03:47] <BluesKaj> rav, when installing wicd you will be prompt to agree to remove kdenetwork manager
[03:48] <BluesKaj> err prompted
[03:48] <EDinNY> whatever I was using before required compiling with the help of my (then) 14 year old
[03:48] <rav> it worked wonderfully on hardy, i upgraded and everything seemed fine. but today i couldn't connect to a wpa network
[03:48] <EDinNY> like I said.  wifi is not my strong suit
[03:51] <ubuntu> ubottu: ta for the link. looks interesting
[03:51] <ubuntu> are u?
[03:52] <BluesKaj> rav, I removed the kdenetwork manager over 2 mos ago , when the default jaunty widget network manger wasn't reliable so that's when I switched to wicd and haven't had any problems with wifi since
[03:52] <BluesKaj> !info wicd | rav
[03:52] <luobo> hello
[03:52] <rav> BluesKaj: i read you need the backport modules in order for wpa work. wicd includes them?
[03:53] <BluesKaj> backport modules ?
[03:54] <BluesKaj> I'm using wpa2 encryption with wicd, if that's what you're asking
[03:54] <rav> BluesKaj: the forums say that installing linux-backports-modules-jaunty fixes the problem in many cases
[03:55] <luobo> new
[03:55] <rav> BluesKaj: unfortunately, i can't test anything here. i'll try tomorrow, and if it doesn't work i will probably be back here tomorrow night :)
[03:56] <BluesKaj> rav , the repository ?
[03:58] <rav> BluesKaj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7136402&postcount=10
[03:59] <BluesKaj> ok rav ,third party sources , like canonical partners and universe and multiverse in the sources.list
[03:59] <Bookman> Ok, for me, running nm-applet in terminal connects me to my wireless connects just fine!  Wonderful.
[04:00] <rav> BluesKaj: so that just installs the repository? then it won't work
[04:01] <Artie_Ephem> Hi all, is there a way to remap the alt+LMB & alt+RMB key bindings (which move and resize windows, respectively)?  I've looked at the keyboard/mouse settings, and don't see them listed.  I want to remap the alt key to the "Windows" key if possible, since I am having problems using some Blender functions
[04:03] <BluesKaj> rav the repository that contains the wicd application has to be included and enabled in your sources.list which is also linked to your package manager for installing applications from the source repositories
[04:05] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu: Sorry. I went out to video rental store.
[04:06] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu: !screencast is a bot trigger for ubottu to reply back with useful information for your question.
[04:06] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu: And yes, ubottu is a bot.
[04:06] <leaf-sheep> But certainly not an intelligent one. :)
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> Artie_Ephem- System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions
[04:06] <ubuntu> leaf-sheep: fair enough
[04:06] <Dragnslcr> Artie_Ephem- you can change the modifier key there
[04:07] <Bookman> Now, how can I get nm-applet to start automatically for me?
[04:07] <ubuntu> just installed istanbul but can not figure out how to run it. honestly
[04:07] <codevarun> problem I have just installed the kde-desktop
[04:08] <ubuntu> there are no visible controls whatsoever except Quit, funny enough
[04:08] <codevarun> and i don't know how to switch b/w the desktop
[04:09] <Artie_Ephem> Dragnslcr - awesome! Thanks!  I noticed that my only other choice is Meta - Ididn't knwo if that would work, but it did  :)  Many thanks!
[04:09] <ubuntu> leaf-sheep: where does it outputs its files when one starts recording?
[04:21] <rav> just installed wicd, seems to be working
[04:22] <rav> on another topic, when i suspend my laptop by closing the lid, it won't start again
[04:51] <zaco> hello
[05:21] <Bookman> Is there a gui mount utility for iso files?
[05:32] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: GNOME DUDE here, what's wrong with mounting in command line? :<
[05:32] <leaf-sheep> !mountiso
[05:34] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: does this work across a local network?
[05:34] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: Err. What do you mean?
[05:35] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: You could use sshfs to mount a networked folder.  Meaning you could mount an iso on one machine and mount a sshfs to view the content.  Depends on what you're aiming for.
[05:37] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: I have a bunch of movie .iso files on my server.  I want to be able to mount and view them on remote machines.  Both local network and over the internet.
[05:38] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: And I use the term server loosely.  It is a machine running standard 32 bit Ubuntu 9.04 with a bunch of big hard drives in it.
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> Wouldn't it be easier to set up a webserver where you can view anything -- including isos.
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: To mount folders on your computer from other computer and/or internet, you want sshfs
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: To mount folders on your computer from other computer and/or internet, you want sshfs
[05:39] <leaf-sheep> !sshfs
[05:39] <FloodBotK1> leaf-sheep: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: Keep in mind, I'm not sure how the situation would play itself out as you're accessing 4GB movie.iso over network.
[05:41] <Bookman> leaf-sheep: I will read and see what happens
[05:43] <Bookman> thanks for the help!
[06:06] <Xavier> Willkommt
[06:25] <Xavier> Willkommt!
[06:35] <Seybobo1234> xdmcp Is it possible to enable xdmcp from the command line i have a head less server with ssh and i want to enable xdmcp
[06:37] <rex_> just loggin in to say hi to all.
[06:40] <speedyx> Hi guys!
[06:41] <speedyx> Have anyone read the post http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2009/08/kubuntu-vision.html on apacheLog blog?
[07:04] <jack_> Hello
[07:25] <rosco_y> does anyone know why I can't seem to use flashplayer in my ubuntu 9.04
[07:27] <rosco_y> or, can anyone help me set up flashplayer in ubuntu?
[07:28] <hgerr3432> how do i start kde and XFCE xserver through command line
[07:30] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: do you want to view flash stream in firefox?
[07:30] <rosco_y> speedyx: yes, thank you!
[07:31] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: it is a new installation?
[07:32] <rosco_y> yes, I just installed it
[07:32] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: ok
[07:32] <rosco_y> speedyx: I just installed flashplayer 10 from adobe
[07:32] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: do you have kubuntu?
[07:33] <rosco_y> I get the diamond "start" arrow, but when I click it nothing happens
[07:33] <rosco_y> I also see the "f" in a circle a lot
[07:34] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: here is a lot of help http://kubuntuguide.org/Jaunty
[07:35] <rosco_y> speedyx: thank you very much!
[07:35] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: I suggest you install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:37] <speedyx> rosco_y >> flashplayer: Have you just do this? sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[07:40] <rosco_y> speedyx: I have the adobe-flashplugin, am now installing the restricted extras
[07:52] <vlt> Hello. I just installed the pkg kubuntu-desktop on 9.04 but it looks like this: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7803/kubuntudesktop.png -- Any idea what's missing here?
[07:54] <speedyx> vlt >> Looks like a video driver problem
[07:55] <vlt> speedyx: The KDE session in running in a vncserver session, so no video driver involved here.
[08:13] <david__> hi, ive got an older version of kubuntu, if i add the jaunty package list to my sources.list and do an update, will it just update my packages with the new versions of the packages available or will it update my distribution?
[08:13] <david__> the reason i ask is that i dont want to move to kde4 and dont want dolphin
[09:20] <tdn> In Kubuntu 9.04, how do I make the PostgreSQL service not start up automatically? I only want it to be started, when I need it.
[09:22] <cor> sysvconfig, or maybe bum
[09:23] <cor> they manipulate the symlinks in /etc/rc*
[09:25] <SerR> E:kubuntu-docs: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1     Anyone any idea?
[09:26] <cor> ignore
[09:26] <SerR> on a ubuntu xfce / kde 4.3
[09:26] <cor> did it install okay?
[09:26] <SerR> installed ok except kubuntu docs
[09:27] <cor> sure? are they not installed?
[09:27] <cor> one of my machines does that with every single software update. I learned to ignore it, because aside from the message, everything works 100%
[09:28] <cor> but possibly one of the post-installation scripts really did have an error
[09:28] <SerR> yes, it seems a documentation/help problem
[09:29] <SerR> usr/share/doc/kde/htmle/en/kubuntu' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[09:30] <SerR> usr/share/doc/kde/html/en/kubuntu' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[09:30] <SerR> wonder if creating that directory would solve the problem
[09:30] <cor> hmm. seems unlikely. did you install the package on its own? or part of a larger install?
[09:30] <theadmin> SerR: doubtable
[09:32] <SerR> part of an update , like 15 security updates
[09:34] <theadmin> Oh i wanted to ask... There are always 4 blocked upgrades for the system, what are those?
[09:36] <SerR> don't know i'm afraid
[09:40] <cor> try reinstalling by itself
[09:40] <cor> as for the four blocked, that be kernel parts
[09:40] <cor> you can upgrade those from the shell, but only if you know how to setup and use an alternative kernel
[09:41] <cor> otherwise, leave em alone
[09:41] <theadmin> cor: thanks. I think i won't install those.
[09:47] <theadmin> can somebody explain what the $ sign at the end of shell prompt is?
[09:48] <SerR> that means you saved some money not using windoze :)
[09:49] <llutz> theadmin: $/# to difference user/root
[09:49] <theadmin> Ah, so if i am in root mode i see hash instead of dollar. Got it.
[09:49] <llutz> that's the idea
[09:50] <theadmin> It displays name@boxname at the beggining of the line anyway... so i don't quite get what for that is.
[09:51] <cor> it's all configurable
[09:52] <llutz> theadmin:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO
[09:52] <cor> anyone know how to hack coordinates into kdialog?
[09:53] <theadmin> whatever :D don't feel like reading a big article. I just know what that means, that's enough...
[09:53] <llutz> theadmin: "your active username"@"your present computername"
[09:57] <rex_> hi, I'm new to KDE, just asking if any software raid is recommended?
[09:57] <rex_> in terms of stability
[09:58] <cor> afaik software raid in linux has been fairly stable for years. not fast, though.
[09:58] <rex_> oh thanks i'll check it out.
[09:59] <cor> there's a good how-to on tldp.org
[10:03] <theadmin> Is there any sandbox solution on linux? Like, running applications in a isolated space or something?
[10:04] <cor> create a user
[10:04] <theadmin> huh
[10:04] <cor> then either switch and login as that user, or just run apps as that user
[10:06] <cor> all processes will be in their memory space, all caches, prefs, etc, etc will be in their user directory. sounds like a sandbox to me!
[10:06] <cor> and one with absolutely no trace of your username in it!
[10:10] <theadmin> hm... man, i've used Windows too long.  I prefer to entirely switch users.
[10:12] <cor> ctrl-alt-F7/F8
[10:12] <cor> etc. pretty neat
[10:13] <theadmin> system starts running pretty slow when more then one session is running. Though, the terminal ones don't affect it much.
[10:13] <cor> true. I haven't tried it on any but mu fastest puter
[10:13] <cor> works great on here, though. not that I do it a lot.
[10:14] <cor> just for having fun with the local community wifi
[10:14]  * cor needs a break from code
[10:17] <marco_> is kde 4.3.1 released?
[10:17] <theadmin> What is uxterm?
[10:17] <theadmin> Some apps open pages in it.... i want em to use firefox
[10:29] <marco_> Jucato is there a new schedule?
[10:29] <marco_> is kde 4.3.1 released?
[10:40] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[10:41] <goddard> can anyone help me
[10:41] <Vazurro> I have had a little problemz. In the penguinfucker.css has 2 major error
[10:41] <goddard> i have no sound on mplayer using oss
[11:22]  * Nemos viu !
[12:02] <KelloggsFrosties> anybody already updated to 4.3.1 from backports? any experiences?
[12:22] <kaddi> I need help with kate... somehow it is typing everything backwards now... How can I undo this? :o
[12:23] <kaddi> I type "this isn't funny" and it shows up as "ynnuf t'nsi siht"
[12:28] <piquadrat> Hi! Any karmic users here (I asked on #ubuntu+1, but noone answered)? My akregator crashes on startup since yesterday, just wanted to check if this is a general problem or something with my config
[12:37] <benkinooby> hi, my konqueror can't display java on websites. I have eclipse and azureus working on my computer, so java is installed. i enalbled java and java script in "configure konqueror"
[12:38] <benkinooby> what is your path to java in "konfigure konqueror"-> Java & Java Script -> "Path to java executables or java"
[13:03] <afeijo> I'm trying to mount a network drive, I added a line to my fstab like: machine:/var/www /mnt/www nfs defaults 0 0
[13:03] <afeijo> but it return an error
[13:03] <afeijo> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on machine:/var/www
[13:05] <afeijo> !mount
[13:05] <afeijo> !fstab
[13:06] <cuznt> if i have a 64 bit sempron chip can i install non 64bit kubunut or must it be 64?
[13:06] <cor> both should work
[13:07] <cuznt> thanks i did not realize that the AMD Sempron LE-1250 / 2.2 GHz processor was 64
[13:07] <cor> why not install amd64?
[13:07] <cuznt> does anyone have kubuntu 64 installed? and whats the difference
[13:08] <cuznt> 64bit
[13:08] <cor> if you have lots of RAM, go for 64
[13:08] <cuznt> that is.... sorry
[13:08] <cor> not that it eats ram, it just makes more sense
[13:08] <cuznt> define lots of ram.. more than 2 g?
[13:08] <ghostcube> more than 3
[13:08] <cor> 4GB, if possible
[13:09] <cor> or if you plan to get that much
[13:09] <afeijo> I have 4gb and kubuntu 64
[13:09] <ghostcube> yep
[13:09] <cor> which again, with RAM prices as they are, makes sense
[13:10] <cuznt> my reg athalon crapped the mainframe. and i ordered a pc w/ AMD Sempron LE-1250 / 2.2 GHz processor not realizing it was 64 bit
[13:10] <cor> 64 bit = good
[13:10] <cuznt> thank you
[13:11]  * cuznt orders more ram!
[13:18] <BluesKaj> G'Day folks
[13:18] <kaddi> hello :)
[13:34] <jackcy> I am running kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.3.1 out of the ppa repositories. The shutdown and reboot buttons do not work and I don't know why. Of course I can reboot and shutdown with commands in the konsole but i want my system to work properly. Does anyone know the commands how kde executes a reboot or shutdown so that I can analyze the problem? Thanks in advance.
[13:36] <BoumBoum> maximussmalluspenissus
[13:41] <BluesKaj> jackcy, yes that's been a problem for a while after some updates , just use the cmnd line , 'sudo halt' to shut down or 'sudo reboot' to restart
[13:44] <BoumBoum> I hate Dr_Willis
[13:45] <BoumBoum> deeply
[13:45] <jackcy> BluesKaj these two I am using now for about a month *g*. I just wanted to find out whats the problem.
[13:46] <cor> or may favourite, sudo shutdown now
[13:47] <BluesKaj> jackcy, I've asked the same question several times, the answer doesn't seem to have high priority :(
[13:47] <cor> as well as now, you can set other times. handy
[13:47] <zebaztian> Help, when I plug my cellphone into my computer through the USB it won't load/mount it
[13:48] <zebaztian> how can i get it to do so?
[13:48] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: does it not show up in dolphin?
[13:48] <zebaztian> nope
[13:48] <zebaztian> that's exactly the problem
[13:48] <BluesKaj> cor , I installed smb4k , works well and to mount all the pcs on our network , I just set it up in the autostart file
[13:49] <BluesKaj> automount that is
[13:49] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: can you pastebin the output of : dmesg | tail just after connecting the phone?
[13:49] <zebaztian> it says preparing for file transfer and then it acts as though it was already plugged the cell that is not the computer
[13:49] <jackcy> ok, I see
[13:49] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, sure thing pops
[13:49] <cor> BluesKaj, maybe check mtab, see what it does, replicate it!
[13:50] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, do you mind a question though?
[13:50] <cor> assuming it uses it...
[13:50] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: yeah sure
[13:50] <BluesKaj> zebaztian, my motorolla phone driver doesn't work either . I think linux is abit behind the curve in cell /pc integration
[13:51] <cor> darn! I was trying to forget about having to setup my phone!
[13:51] <llutz> cells work if they are usb-mass-storage devices
[13:51] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:51] <shadeslayer> mine works perfectly.....
[13:52] <cor> mine has an irda hurdle to cross
[13:52] <shadeslayer> im getting a BB Storm though....
[13:52] <EDinNY> There are also some FUSE modules that work with phones.  Does the kernel see it when you plug it in?
[13:52] <cor> via dongle
[13:52] <shadeslayer> EDinNY: thats what im trying to determine.....
[13:52] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, the question is the input dmesg | tail gives the out put for...?
[13:52] <cor> I haven't really tried yet, so, we'll see...
[13:52] <EDinNY> "sudo tail -f /var/log/messages" in konsole, then plug it in
[13:52] <zebaztian> BluesKaj, the problem is, my cellphone had already worked a couple times and hten it stopped
[13:52] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: itll show the last messages in dmesg
[13:53] <cor> EDinNY, there is a GUI log viewer, too!
[13:53] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.ca/1550209
[13:54] <EDinNY> if you use the GUI log viewer you can do that in THIS distribution.  if you know how to use Konsole you can do it in ANY linux distro
[13:55] <cor> so we both state the obvious. touche!
[13:56] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: ok also pastebin : sudo fdsik -l
[13:57] <zebaztian> EDinNY, it keeps saying something along the lines o f sep numbers jaunty kernel no additional information
[13:57] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, no probs
[13:58] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, http://pastebin.ca/1550215
[13:59] <benkinooby> hi, got 4 blcoked updates. linux-headers-generic - <IP_ADDRESS>.15 (i386) | linux-restricted-modules-generic - <IP_ADDRESS>.15 (i386) | linux-generic - <IP_ADDRESS>.15 (i386) and linux-image-generic - <IP_ADDRESS>.15 (i386). what do i have to do???
[14:00] <shadeslayer> benkinooby: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:00] <cor> or nothing, your call
[14:01] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: i dont think your phone is supported by the kernel
[14:01] <zebaztian> it is
[14:01] <zebaztian> it had already loaded
[14:01] <zebaztian> i had to reinstall kubuntu
[14:01] <zebaztian> that's the thing, then i lost the modification i had done
[14:01] <zebaztian> and i forgot what it was
[14:02] <zebaztian> but it had already loaded on jaunty
[14:02] <benkinooby> shadeslayer: thx! in the internet i right now read "sudo aptitude full-upgrade'". what is the difference?
[14:02] <zebaztian> it's a SE w595
[14:02] <cor> so this time you kept a big text file with every step you took, very clever!
[14:02] <shadeslayer> benkinooby: never tried that....
[14:02] <cor> benkinooby, sudo aptitude safe-upgrade, too!
[14:04] <sergios> salve a tutti
[14:04] <sergios> sono nuovo da queste parti
[14:04] <sergios> avrei un quesito
[14:04] <sergios> nel mio pc ho installato ubuntu e windows
[14:04] <sergios> in dual boot
[14:05] <llutz> !it | sergios
[14:05] <benkinooby> cor: i'm trying your way... seems to be the fasest way ;)
[14:05] <benkinooby> cor: safest
[14:05] <sergios> ops! sorry!
[14:06] <sergios> thanks !
[14:07] <jackcy__> BluesKaj : I found it. There is a bug in knotify. You have to deactivate the notification sound for logout in the system settings --> notifications --> kde system notifications.  This has to be done even if sound output is deactivated. After the next reboot shutdown and restart work again.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> jackcy__, cool, thx for the heads up :)
[14:09] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: what did you follow?
[14:09] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: some external driver load or something?
[14:09] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, i am reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1140056
[14:10] <zebaztian> actually what i had done was come in here and someone hwo had a cellphone told me to turn it off and plug it in adn that would read it automatically and it had done so, but this time it didn't work
[14:10] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: me too :P
[14:11] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, youre cute, are you a 6ft tall woman?
[14:11] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: lol... no im a 5ft 9inch guy...
[14:11] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=473035 <<-- Bug report
[14:12] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: simply follow post #6 on the forum link
[14:12] <zebaztian> ok, just saw that
[14:12] <zebaztian> yeah right on
[14:14] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, how do i open /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules ? gsudo gedit /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules ?
[14:14] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: yeah
[14:15] <genii> zebaztian: gksudo
[14:16] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, one thing though, hwen i open it
[14:16] <zebaztian> the file is blank
[14:16] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: i know its empty :P
[14:16] <zebaztian> like there's nothing to replace
[14:16] <zebaztian> what do i do then?
[14:16] <shadeslayer> wait a sec...
[14:17] <shadeslayer> i have no idea..........
[14:18] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
[14:18] <zebaztian> er,,,
[14:18] <zebaztian> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/360365
[14:18] <BluesKaj> jackcy's solution to the shutdown and reboot problem doesn't work for my setup :(
[14:19] <BoumBoum> you should know there is no peace possible at your conditions
[14:19] <BoumBoum> you dont want to negociate
[14:19] <BoumBoum> so you get war
[14:19] <BoumBoum> byebye
[14:21] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: i have no idea,maybe someone more experience can help you out with this..
[14:21] <BluesKaj> a blip
[14:21] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, do i paste it onto the empty file anyway? is it possible kate is hiding something?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> zebaztian, have you tried gammu , the cli app for phones
[14:22] <zebaztian> cli?
[14:22] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: no dont do that.... i would try copying the file from /lib/udev... but then again im not afraid of breaking my system :P
[14:22] <BluesKaj> konsole
[14:23] <shadeslayer> !cli | zebaztian
[14:23] <zebaztian> what's gammu?
[14:23] <zebaztian> sudo apt-get gammu?
[14:23] <shadeslayer> !info gammu | zebaztian
[14:24] <zebaztian> installign
[14:24] <zebaztian> i just got a weird output
[14:24] <zebaztian> look:
[14:24] <virnik> heh
[14:25] <virnik> when kubuntu forbid that kbluetooth package, and start using blueman? it is really superior
[14:25] <zebaztian> http://pastebin.ca/1550240
[14:26] <zebaztian> ok it's installed now what do i do
[14:26] <zebaztian> BluesKaj,
[14:26] <BluesKaj> yeah, no configuration file found ..blah blah
[14:27] <Squirkey> morning all
[14:28] <zebaztian> BluesKaj, i already installed gammu
[14:28] <zebaztian> now how do i run it
[14:29] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, how about this http://inthevidual.com/wp/?p=61
[14:30] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: looks all fine,but has anybody confirmed its working?
[14:32] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-851102.html
[14:32] <BluesKaj> my messagers are different , zebaztian , I don't think it sees my phone at all
[14:33] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, should i do that?
[14:33] <zebaztian> wget http://arch.uhl.nu/60-persistent-storage.rules ?
[14:33] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: sure,if your brave enough to try out new things :P
[14:34] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, what might happen?
[14:34] <zebaztian> mind you i'm on jaunty
[14:34] <zebaztian> that's' from hardy
[14:34] <zebaztian> is it possible for me to find the sollution by googling the kernel i'm using plus my cellphone model?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: bad things can happen if you try scripts from suspicious sites,so just be carefull
[14:35] <zebaztian> then i wont
[14:36] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: entirely your decisision...
[14:36] <shadeslayer> *decision
[14:39] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, ok my problem is figuring out
[14:39] <zebaztian> hwy that file comes out blank
[14:40] <antares> hi everyone
[14:40] <antares> i have problem with kubuntu...when i conect with it the screen get black
[14:43] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, there's a config a command right? what's that for?
[14:45] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, does this have to do with why i was getting a blank file http://pastebin.ca/1550274
[14:47] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7640884
[14:50] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, The file was blank because htere's no 60 rules file
[14:51] <zebaztian> on that folder
[14:52] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: uh... i was afk...
[14:53] <zebaztian> afk?
[14:53] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: away for now
[14:53] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: what config command?
[14:54] <zebaztian> there's something like config -a
[14:54] <zebaztian> what does that do?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: oh, sudo dpkg --configure -a ? i configures all installed packages
[14:55] <zebaztian> let me do that
[14:55] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: that takes *alot* of time
[14:55] <shadeslayer> so you could be sitting for hours..... ive never even attempted that command :P
[14:56] <zebaztian> sebastian@jaunty:~/Documents$
[14:56] <zebaztian> should that  be the default for my terminal?
[14:56] <zebaztian> do i have to change dir? it didn't work that ocmmand
[14:57] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: wait a sec
[14:58] <shadeslayer> zebaztian:  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:58] <cor> afk = Away From Keyboard ;o)
[14:58] <shadeslayer> cor: oh,i got that wrong then :P
[14:59] <cor> I love how even the meaning of initialisms can get lost in time!
[14:59] <zebaztian> shadeslayer, didnt do anything
[15:01] <shadeslayer> hmmm
[15:02] <shadeslayer> zebaztian: try re-configure instead
[15:05] <zebaztian> ah
[15:05] <zebaztian> i'll figure it out later
[15:05] <zebaztian> quit
[15:06] <BluesKaj> I found the app and driver for my phone (moto4lin) but the app doesn't connect fully. it sees the phone but that's all, there's no data transfer  about model # or such so that the app can be configged correctly to work with the phone
[15:07] <BluesKaj> I looked  for a chat about phones on freenode , but no luck
[15:09] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: no !phone factoid too
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !motorola
[15:12] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: tried that too :P
[15:13] <BluesKaj> !moto4lin
[15:20] <BluesKaj> phone connects but i get this : [info] Sending control message failed.. Retry...
[15:21] <BluesKaj> [error] Unable to get file count, [error] Unable to get drive name
[15:22] <BluesKaj> does thi smean that the phone is blocking any data queries ? or is it just a crappy driver ?
[15:29] <HensonD> could somebody help me verify a bug with KDE 4's update notifier?   If you specifically need 4.0 for some stupid reason, you'd have to either use an old version of Ubuntu or compile from source
[15:47] <Zeik> I am currently running 8.10.
[15:47] <Zeik> Can't run 9 due to problems with the Intel chipset.
[15:49] <Dragnslcr> 8.10 uses MySQL 5.0
[15:49] <Dragnslcr> There still won't be 4.0 packages
[15:50] <Dragnslcr> From what I can see in the packages list, MySQL 4.0 hasn't been in Ubuntu in at least 4 years
[15:51] <Dragnslcr> Of course, if you have something that doesn't work with any version of MySQL newer than 4.0, you have other problems anyway
[15:54] <Zeik> Yeah, i was just looking at that.
[16:13] <sununu> eeee
[16:13] <sununu> eeee
[16:13] <sununu> ???
[16:14] <genii> sununu: Please don't do that
[16:14] <me`n`u> hii
[16:14] <me`n`u> i have kubuntu
[16:14] <me`n`u> but i cant connect
[16:15] <genii> me`n`u: A more detailed description of by what method you are trying to connect may be useful, what hardware, any other thing which might be relevent
[16:16] <me`n`u> i cant connect to my ap
[16:16] <me`n`u> w-lan
[16:16] <me`n`u> its wireless
[16:18] <genii> me`n`u: Is it using no encryption/WEP/WPA/WPA2, etc... What make and model is the adapter in the computer.... etc... what program are you trying to use to make the connection..networkmanager/wicd/command-line    etc
[16:18] <genii> me`n`u: So far there is not enough information provided :)
[16:20] <me`n`u> i use wep
[16:21] <me`n`u> ill brb
[16:26] <MTGap_> Could anyone tell me where this openoffice icon is located, I want to use it in my menu: http://imgur.com/YUXCV.png It's the 'ArgumentEssay' in the panel
[16:30] <genii> Work requires me
[16:30] <noen> hello world!
[16:37] <MTGap_> Could anyone tell me where this openoffice icon is located, I want to use it in my menu: http://imgur.com/YUXCV.png It's the 'ArgumentEssay' in the panel
[16:45] <Freyr> hi there
[16:46] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: depending on what size of icon you want, they are located in /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/ (the 48x48 can be changed to 32x32 or 16x16 depending on what size you want..)
[16:47] <Freyr> what program can i use to test a microphone ?
[16:47] <MTGap_> gorgonizer: I'm aware of those icons and have looked there already, there are two sets of ooo icons there neither of which are the one being displayed in the taskbar
[16:48] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: ahh, which version of Ooo are you using?
[16:49] <MTGap_> gorgonizer: the version is 3.1.1
[16:50] <MTGap_> are the icons somewhere else? I don't want to change them just use them in kmenu
[16:50] <Freyr> what i want to do is to use skype for calling.
[16:50] <Freyr> and when i make the test call i cant hear my voice
[16:51] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: just checking now for you.. you have the same version as me, so should be able to locate it for you :)
[17:00] <lorenzo_> hey is there an easy way with aticonfig to allow me to drop windows from one monitor to the other? I have dual monitors working but I can't get any apps to open on the 2nd one...pretty useless
[17:08] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: I believe the icon you are looking for is /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/openofficeorg3-oasis-text.png
[17:10] <MTGap_> yeah that looks pretty close
[17:11] <MTGap_> the side is more wavy though
[17:18] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: yeah, I noticed the discrepency. on the waviness.. all the icons I can find which are similar to the icon you want have waviness, whereas the icon you want has straight sides..
[17:19] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: still looking for that icon though...
[17:20] <MTGap_> wait no I wanted waviness, http://imgur.com/YUXCV.png that one has waviness. And for the icons for drawer, the page bent (top-left) is yellow
[17:20] <MTGap_> I mean not yellow, like the icons in the mimetypes
[17:27] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: half my system is now 4.3.0, and half is 4.3.1, so somethings are currently not working :(
[17:27] <MTGap_> 4.3.1 is coming out today correct? I haven't gotten the update yet
[17:28] <Blagh> i had a critical error -.-
[17:28] <MTGap_> got it, just did an update
[17:28] <MTGap_> lol 229mb
[17:28] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: Is this the drawing icon you are after? /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/mimetypes/openofficeorg3-oasis-drawing.png
[17:29] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: I am waiting for kdeadmin and kdeutils to be updated before I reboot.. I think they are the last ones..
[17:30] <MTGap_> looks a lot like it, I think I'll just use those icons they look better than the other ones.
[17:30] <MTGap_> thank you very much gorgonizer. I'll be reconfiguring my kmenu with those icons now
[17:30] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: always happy to help where I can :)
[17:31] <MTGap_> anything good in the updates?
[17:34] <Blagh> anyone knows where i can find the tool for adding software in Kubuntu ? i have changed from Ubuntu what i used 2 days. I'm a total virgin in Linux :)
[17:35] <MTGap_> it's called Kpackage in Kmenu it should be under applications>system
[17:37] <Blagh> KpackageKit ? i have found this in the begining. but can it be that there is not so much software like in the Ubuntu one ?
[17:37] <Blagh> i mean the third party software
[17:38] <Blagh> like teamspeak, or quanta plus
[17:39] <MTGap_> let me see I'm not familiar with those
[17:41] <gorgonizer> MTGap_: haven't started using 4.3.1 as of yet, waiting for all the updates to be available... still waiting for dedmn and kdeutils...
[17:42] <kishore> hi
[17:42] <MTGap_> well I just found quanta in kpackagekit do a search for quanta (leave out the plus)
[17:42] <MTGap_> ah ok
[17:43] <Blagh> i mean, i truly kan download software from the websites, but because i am new to linux, and there is a lot of "requirements" for much software which will be downloaded automatic with the download manger
[17:43] <MTGap_> I just did another search for 'team' and found team speak in kpackagekit. Can you find them Blagh?
[17:44] <caseyd> okay I'm brand new to linux.. I'm trying to install FireFox with KPackageKit... can't seem to find it?
[17:44] <MTGap_> did you search for firefox?
[17:44] <Blagh> no ... cant find it
[17:44] <MTGap_> It pops up for me....
[17:45] <caseyd> weird.. wonder if I have to set up kpackagekit first or something
[17:45] <MTGap_> well let's take a look at your software sources
[17:45] <MTGap_> it's under settings
[17:46] <MTGap_> then there is a button Edit Software Sources
[17:46] <caseyd> okay, I changed from the US server to the 'main server' and now i see it =)
[17:46] <MTGap_> click it and it should ask for your password
[17:46] <caseyd> sorry should have looked before I ran to the chatroom ;-)
[17:47] <caseyd> I'm excited though!  Ubuntu is working on a Ubuntu Software Store and that should help things a lot
[17:49] <caseyd> I'm a webdeveloper
[17:49] <MTGap_> there is a chromium project for linux you know and it looks a lot better on kde than firefox
[17:49] <Blagh> what editor are you using in linux, i used dreamwiever and notepad++ in win, but now i dont know what i can use
[17:50] <sireorion> what is the program called that u can put iso files on my usb stick?
[17:50] <caseyd> sorry, new to linux ;-) ... I use notepad++
[17:50] <sireorion> something with obootin is it called
[17:50] <Blagh> works on linux ?
[17:50] <Blagh> notepad++
[17:50] <caseyd> not sure.. let me look, I use that on windows
[17:51] <sireorion> caseyd:: do u have the prog?
[17:51] <caseyd> http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/nppLinux.php <-- notepad++ on linux
[17:52] <Blagh> with WINE .....
[17:55] <Blagh> http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/ looks good. i think i give it a look
[18:13] <zebaztian> what is a good audiovisual recording app
[18:13] <BluesKaj> cor, i replicated the mtab entry used by smb4k inti fstab but I substituted /.smbpassword for smb4k in that line , so now itlooks like this : //MARGARET-PC/C /home/kaj/.smbpassword/MARGARET-PC/C cifs rw,mand,nosuid,nodev,user=kaj 0 0 . Now what should I name the folder to make it accessible. I tried a MARGARET-PC/C folder in my home dir , but it doesn't access her pc . any suggestions ?
[18:13] <biagioli> ciao
[18:13] <zebaztian> i want to record withthe laptops internal camera and mic
[18:13] <biagioli> !list
[18:14] <BluesKaj> !it | biagioli
[18:16] <BluesKaj> !vidcam
[18:22] <computer_> my audio is not working
[18:22] <Brian_> what is a daily build  im looking at the download kubuntu karmic koala daily build
[18:24] <tommi__> hi all
[18:25] <bdgraue> Brian_: if u dont know what a daily build is, you dont want it ;)
[18:25] <bdgraue> Brian_: maybe you better install stable jaunty :)
[18:25] <tommi__> i have a question about mounting usb sticks as normal user via device notifier...
[18:26] <Brian_> i know they realeased  karmic alfa 4  is the daily build just the next step
[18:27] <bdgraue> Brian_: next step will be alpha 5 afaik, daily builds are made inbetween
[18:29] <tommi__> so i want to mount a usb stick with device notifier as a normal user, not root, is it possible?
[18:36] <BluesKaj> BBL , errands to do
[18:39] <jado> hi, is kdenetworkmanager not working for everyone? i had a message a few weeks ago that said that it was unstable and from this moment the icon is white and ugly and knetworkmanager is unusable
[18:44] <BluesKaj> jado, install wicd , it should work for you. The kdenetworkmanager will be removewd when you install wicd
[19:10] <UF-Gast549> hallo kann mir jemand helfen habe ein problem
[19:12] <UF-Gast549> wer kennt sich mit ubuntu gut aus???
[19:13] <cervant> =)
[19:14] <UF-Gast549> hey keiner da der schreibt
[19:15] <UF-Gast549> hillfe
[19:16] <genii> !de | UF-Gast549
[19:18] <gizmobay> I use Ark for compressed files. I received a rar from someone. The rar had some empty directries in the package. When I extracted with Ark, it didn't extract the empty directories. Am I missing a setting?
[19:19] <UF-Gast549> hello speeck somme body engluisch?
[19:22] <seest> hello, ive been using windows live messenger, but now i have changed to kubuntu, i am pretty lost, have found out that i can use kopete, but it keeps telling me i have used a wrong password for my account (and i haven't)
[19:24] <gizmobay> seest, did you put in your full email for the username?
[19:26] <seest> gizmobay, yes in the place passport, i entered my full email, and i the place password right under, i put in my password
[19:27] <gizmobay> which service are you trying? MSN, google?
[19:30] <seest> in kopete, wlm (it's a @hotmail.com adress)
[19:32] <gizmobay> try<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:32] <francisc1701> hi! is it possible to make Firefox (3.5) understand Konqueror shortcuts like "gg", "wp", etc?
[19:34] <seest> but my windows id is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:34] <jeiworth> hi all, anyone already had the guts to play around with fingerprintGUI and libfprint0 in kde? and please lets not start a discussion about the (lacking) security of fingerprint reader systems, ok? :) it's just for show-off that it works with linux
[19:35] <gizmobay> I'm just saying try it. It won't hurt
[19:36] <seest> okay, i have been trying, still with bad results
[19:36] <gizmobay> try using pidgin instead
[19:36] <gizmobay> sudo apt-get install pidgin
[19:36] <seest> okay, i try
[19:38] <seest> okay, the command sudo apt-get install pidgin, wont work, it says won't be installed in any lines
[19:42] <bdgraue> seest: is this a fresh install?
[19:43] <gizmobay> must already be installed
[19:43] <gizmobay> try which pidgin
[19:43] <gizmobay> which pidgin
[19:43] <gizmobay> the command that is
[19:43] <bdgraue> maybe he have to do an sudo apt-get update at first
[19:44] <seest> bdgraue, yes it have been installed yesterday, and i have installed other programs without problems
[19:44] <bdgraue> ah, ok
[19:45] <seest> and it isn't installed already, because i can't find it in the kmenu in the search field
[19:46] <seest> bdgraue, should i could install vlc media player without that sudo update you where talking about?
[19:47] <bdgraue> if you already installed packages it should work, yes
[19:47] <bdgraue> but you can try it out
[19:47] <bdgraue> doesnt hurt ;)
[19:47] <bdgraue> sudo apt-get update
[19:47] <seest> ill try
[19:47] <bdgraue> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:48] <bdgraue> these two should make your installation up-to-date
[19:52] <seest> bdgraue, sudo apt-get dist-update dosn't work for me, and after installing the first one, i tryed sudo apt-get install pidgin again with same results as before
[19:52] <bdgraue> seest: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    it is :)
[19:53] <gizmobay> which pidgin
[19:53] <gizmobay> type that command
[19:53] <bdgraue> seest: listen to gizmobay
[19:53] <BluesKaj> seest, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:54] <bdgraue> seest: you can also paste you output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com   and show us what you get when you try to install
[19:55] <seest> okay, my mistake in the dist command, i thougt i have been reading update, and not upgrade
[19:55] <seest> now it seems like working
[19:56] <seest> but haven't been installed
[19:56] <bdgraue> seest: paste you output here: http://paste.ubuntu.com   and show us what you get when you try to install
[19:57] <bdgraue> seest: and try [20:53:04] <gizmobay>  which pidgin
[19:57] <seest> http://paste.ubuntu.com/263359/
[19:58] <bdgraue> seest: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:58] <seest> okay ill try that one
[19:58] <bdgraue> you tried it already, but without sudo :D
[19:59] <bdgraue> line 39-41
[20:00] <seest> okay, know a blue screen coming up in konsole
[20:00] <bdgraue> what does it want
[20:01] <bdgraue> what does the blue screen ask you to do?
[20:01] <seest> it says something about set up java sun 6
[20:01] <bdgraue> thats the license
[20:01] <bdgraue> if its ok for you, so ok
[20:02] <seest> ok, just type ok and enter?
[20:02] <bdgraue> does it need to type anything?
[20:02]  * bdgraue dont remeber that thingie
[20:02] <bdgraue> remember
[20:02] <seest> i really don't know, sorry i can't type anything
[20:03] <jeiworth> seest: just use the tab-key and enter
[20:03] <seest> okay
[20:04] <jeiworth> is there a special reason you are going through this in the CLI and not using e.g. Adept for your purposes? seems to me like you'd be more happy with a gUI
[20:04] <seest> nice, now it is installing
[20:04] <seest> no, i have no speciel reason, where to find GUI?
[20:04] <bdgraue> jeiworth: is there a way to go on with an incomplete upgrade in GUI?
[20:06] <seest> pidgin is installing now
[20:06] <pmwisse> hi, does anyone know whether it is possible to get full translations into dutch with the latest backports for Jaunty?
[20:07] <pmwisse> many strings remain in english
[20:07] <jeiworth> bdgraue: hmm incomplete dist-upgrade?
[20:07] <pmwisse> i've indeed upgraded from intrepid to jaunty
[20:07] <pmwisse> which packages should be the problem?
[20:08] <seest> nice, know i am connected
[20:08] <seest> thank you bdgraue, jeiworth, and gizmobay
[20:09] <jeiworth> seest: if kde is up and running you can simply press alt-f2 and enter adept, otherwise you should find it in the kde-menu in system
[20:09] <seest> okay ill try that
[20:11] <seest> there to find in the kmenu?
[20:11] <carsten> moin
[20:12] <seest> mojn carsten
[20:13] <gizmobay> Anyone else having a problem with kubuntu freezing 9.04?
[20:13] <bdgraue> jeiworth: as you can see in the paste from seest the last update/upgrade was icomplete. is it possible to fix this with adept. i am asking because i dont know, i dont use adept  :)
[20:14] <jeiworth> seest: the kmenu is what the start-menu is in win, its the k-button you see left lower corner
[20:14] <bdgraue> jeiworth: is adept in the standard jaunty install? seems to be kpackagekit, i dont have installed adept :)
[20:15] <seest> okay, but in which category shall i look?
[20:15] <jeiworth> bdgraue: hmm not sure, this has only happened to me once with iirc 7.04 => 7.10 and i preferred straightening that up in the cli, but then again (without wanting to brag) i've been using linux quite a while so for me it was easier that way
[20:15] <bdgraue> seest: application -> system
[20:15] <seest> bdgraue, isn't there
[20:16] <jeiworth> bdgraue: true, they changed it, and man was that a bad decission, i am not happy with that at all so i still use adept ;)
[20:16] <bdgraue> seest: is there kpackagekit?
[20:16] <seest> sudo apt-get install adept?
[20:16] <jeiworth> seest: exactly
[20:16] <seest> okay yes kpackagekit is there
[20:17] <bdgraue> jeiworth: kpackagekit is the default gui software management programm in jaunty afaik
[20:18] <jeiworth> bdgraue: yes
[20:18] <jeiworth> but either gui, including synaptic if you prefer it, are just frontends for dpkg/apt/aptitude so there is no problem having installed and using both
[20:19] <seest> okay, don't get this app
[20:19] <jeiworth> remember, this is linux ;)
[20:19] <bdgraue> jeiworth: i know :) but sometimes gui isnt that powerful to me :D
[20:20] <jeiworth> well, for some people it is easier to search and install programs, for things like straightening out a failed dist-upgrade it might not be sufficient
[20:30] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- you around?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, yeah , I'm here
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> Trying to get the wireless working on a friend's laptop
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> It's an old Intersil Prism chipset
[20:45] <Dragnslcr> It ain't going too well
[20:46] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, how old ?
[20:46] <Dragnslcr> Acer Travelmate 250. Probably about 5 years
[20:46] <BluesKaj> i know some ppl with 10 yr old lappies that are working well with wicd
[20:47] <BluesKaj> on xfce of course :)
[20:47] <BluesKaj> is there a way to load wicd on to the acer , if you DL it to your machine ?
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> I've got a wired connection on it
[20:48] <Dragnslcr> Already installed wicd
[20:49] <BluesKaj> oh well then just make sure the third party and canonical partner repos are enable on it and insyall with apt-get
[20:49] <cristi> how to shutdown graphic system in kubuntu?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> cristi, alt+ctrl+f1 that will take you to a TTY
[20:50] <cristi> i want to install nvidia video card driver, doing so will not work, driver installation says that x-server detected
[20:51] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- install what?
[20:52] <zoiss> hey guys. my master volume and microphone capture volume is reset to 0 after every reboot. the alsa-utils and alsasound is configured correctly in inid.d/ and rcX.d/. when i type alsactl restore in console, my volume settings are fine. does anyone know, which procs touch those volume settings? its not kmix.
[20:53] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, wicd network manager
[20:53] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[20:53] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- it's already installed. Should I do a reinstall?
[20:54] <BluesKaj> no , just open it in kmenu/internet and choose prefernces and configure it from there
[20:55] <Brian_> \member:identifier:brian_
[20:55] <Brian_> :
[20:55] <Brian_> i would like to install ubuntu and kubuntu but im thinking should i just install kde ontop of member:gnome and have the files inter mingle or i could just do a duel bootsetup so the apps dont mix and cause a mess, what do you guys think
[20:55] <FloodBotK1> Brian_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:55] <Brian_> oops
[20:55] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, sometimes ppl forget to enable wifi on their routers so make sure of that
[20:56] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, gotta go for a few mins ...setup the BBQ ..bb in 5
[20:58] <suman> has anyone install virtual box and IEs in their ubuntu machine lately?
[21:04] <untitled> hi. Is there a good manual about bootsplash in ubuntu?
[21:05] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- dunno what else to set in the preferences. I have it set to use hostap as the driver and wlan0 as the interface
[21:07] <abhifx> hey there. i m trying to update my kde to 4.3. bt now there is no menu and panel. what package m i missing
[21:10] <abhifx> hey there. i m trying to update my kde to 4.3. bt now there is no menu and panel. what package m i missing
[21:12] <Niceday> abhifx: add backports and make a dist-upgrade
 u see my net connection is super slow. i just want the basic update.
[21:13] <shadeslayer> abhifx: try : sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
  u see my net connection is super slow. i just want the basic update.
[21:14] <Niceday> abhifx: that is a basic update... and stop to flood please
[21:15] <abhifx> well i must add that i am on ultimate edition. will it still work
[21:15] <abhifx> and yeah sorry for the flood
[21:15] <shadeslayer> abhifx: live with it or get a better connnection....
[21:15] <Niceday> abhifx: i guess it will work. same base in my opinion
[21:15] <shadeslayer> !ultimate | abhifx
[21:16] <shadeslayer> abhifx: no support for you sorry...
 thanks
[21:16] <Niceday> abhifx: welcome
 thanks anyway
[21:17] <StateS> hello
[21:17] <StateS> I'm having a problem booting into kubuntu
[21:17] <StateS> i386, 9.10 alpha4
[21:17] <shadeslayer> StateS: please state the problem in one complete line
[21:17] <shadeslayer> StateS: #ubuntu+1
[21:17] <Niceday> StateS: wrong channel for you.
[21:18] <StateS> I am unable to boot into the operating system, it only ever gives me a grub 15 error
[21:18] <StateS> Niceday... are you portuguese by any chance?
[21:18] <LuisJa> can someone help me out installing kde4.3 pls?
[21:19] <Niceday> StateS: are you reading ? you are on the wrong channel. no I am german. only speak english french germand and dutch. no portoguese
[21:19] <Niceday> -d
[21:19] <untitled> did anyone get a bootsplash with vanilla kernel from kernel.org?
[21:19] <Dragnslcr> LuisJa- did you read the announcement on the Kubuntu site (link is in the topic)?
[21:19] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, doesnt wext work and you also have to set the encryption wep being least secure and try wpa if possible, then you'll prolly have to include the wifi pw set up whatever it was in windows
[21:19] <StateS> ah, my bad, ok, I'll switch to the ubuntu channel... thanks ;)
[21:20] <Niceday> StateS: yes. but the +1 channel please
[21:20] <LuisJa> Dragnslcr: dont understand what i have to do with that "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main" thing :S
[21:20] <Trijntje> Hi all, after installing guest additions for kubuntu 9.04 in vbox i can only start in text mode. Any ideas what could be the cause?
[21:20] <Niceday> LuisJa: you have to add it to /etc/apt/sources.list and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:21] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- wext didn't work, and I found a site that suggested using hostap for prism chips. I don't see anyplace to enter encryption method
[21:21] <P_Kable> Hi, I'm having a problem, it seems like I installed some software that installed gnome, now everytime I log in I get gnome, no more KDE, I have to select KDE before login in, how do I change this automatically please ???
[21:21] <Dragnslcr> LuisJa- In KPackageKit, Settings -> Sources
[21:21] <StateS> lol, oops, went into the wrong channel, I though that the +1 meant something else... arg... -_-"
[21:22] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, when you try to connect to the router , wicd will ask for the pw and encryption setting option
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> I don't think it's getting that far
[21:23] <BluesKaj> you have to disconnect the eth0
[21:23] <P_Kable> Anybody knows how to set KDE as default session please ?
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> Hm
[21:23] <BluesKaj> disconnect the wired default
[21:23] <Dragnslcr> I can give it a try after it's finished downloading some updates
[21:24] <BluesKaj> ok
[21:25] <Dragnslcr> Is it normal for wicd to show "No wireless networks" if you're connected to the wired?
[21:28] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- still says no networks found
[21:30] <felix__> hi all
[21:30] <Hellmark[S10e]> Question. I'm on a netbook, and I wonder if there is anything to do about windows that are larger than the resolution of the screen
[21:31] <MTGap> Can anyone tell me why my date navigator appears like this: http://imgur.com/vY5r6.png it hasn't always looked like this but one day it just changed to where most dates aren't visible
[21:31] <Hellmark[S10e]> I frequently run into preferences dialogs that are taller than the screen, making the bottom part hang off the screen.
[21:32] <Hellmark[S10e]> is there anything I can do about that
[21:32] <CyberKitsune> Can I complain about KDE 4.3.1 stuff on Jaunty in here?
[21:32] <Hellmark[S10e]> I know KDE4 has the zoom feature, but it seems to only work on the plasma desktop
[21:33] <Trijntje> Hi all, after installing guest additions for kubuntu 9.04 in vbox i can only start in text mode. Any ideas what could be the cause?
[21:35] <|CyberKitsune|> I just updated to KDE 4.3.1 and, knetworkmanager is crashing with a segmentation fault after about a minute
[21:35] <ubuntu_> hello there, installed Apache, PHP and MySQL on localhost. phpinfo() outputs mysql support but i can not find mysqd in etc/init.d to start the mysql server?
[21:35] <|CyberKitsune|> Which is a problem, as that drops my WiFi
[21:45] <ubuntu_> anyone available to offer some help, please?
[21:46] <Dragnslcr> ubuntu_- did you install the MySQL server, or just the client?
[21:47] <PSiL0> |CyberKitsune|: Unfortunately, I do not not use knetworkmanager.  After I had my fill of the networkmanager plasmoid, I opted to install wicd.  Wicd had less gnome dependencies than knetworkmanager, so I opted for it.
[21:47] <ubuntu_> Dragnslcr: the server, actually
[21:47] <PSiL0> |CyberKitsune|: sorry I could not be more of a help
[21:47] <ubuntu_> mysql-server-core5. to be exact
[21:47] <|CyberKitsune|> knetworkmanager doesn't have any GNOME dependencies
[21:49] <PSiL0> |CyberKitsune|: The packager added them I guess.... sudo apt-get -s install knetworkmanager spewed out a lot of gnome stuff I did not want or need
[21:49] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, yes , until the eth0/wired is disconnected , there will be no wifi networks found
[21:50] <|CyberKitsune|> PSiL0: You must of had other packages with issues then
[21:53] <Pom> Hi there
[21:53] <Pom> could anyone give the name of the kde bug reporting tool
[21:54] <Pom> for some reason it looks like it's not been installed in me KDE 4.3 install
[21:58] <john-> can anyone tell me how to move items in plasma. i have a kick off button and a digital clock on there at the moment. if i try and move the digital clock to the right side of the panel it just automatically snaps back to the left
[21:59] <Dario_Andres> Hi.. is "kdesudo" a K/Ubuntu addon ?
[22:01] <BluesKaj> Dario_Andres, kdesudo is used in the run command for graphical commands
[22:02] <Dario_Andres> BluesKaj: but AFAIK it is only a kubuntu addition, and it doesn't exist in KDE original sources
[22:02] <BluesKaj> dario itwas adopted in edgy I think
[22:03] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- even after disconnecting the wired, no wireless networks showed up. Dunno what the problem is. I'll deal with it some other time
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, make sure the router is set to braodcast
[22:05] <Dragnslcr> Mine wasn't, but even putting in the SSID didn't work. It didn't pick up any other routers either (my router could pick up about 8 others, so I know there are some around)
[22:05] <Dario_Andres> BluesKaj: thanks
[22:06] <ubuntu_> any help with my mysqld issue, please?
[22:07] <ubuntu_> just can not start the server
[22:29] <LuisJa> Dragnslcr: there was something wrong with the kde4.3 actu
[22:30] <LuisJa> the the manager settings bar is dark blue, no white gray, and also firefox doesnt wanna load
[22:30] <marco_> hy
[22:32] <LuisJa> Dragnslcr: ???
[22:37] <LuisJa> how i can download firefox 3.5 with the terminal? i sudo apt-get install "firefox" but it doesnt wanna load :S it presents the firefox icon close to the mouse jumping, but it doesnt load
[22:45] <ubuntu_> LuisJa: i got my firefox 3 running sudo apt-get update. it did the trick for me
[22:45] <vavrek> LuisJa: If U wanna ff3.5 -> apt-get install firefox-3.5
[22:46] <vavrek> than U can run it via cmd firefox-3.5
[22:46] <vavrek> Ubuntu still maintain both FF3.0 and FF3.5
[22:46] <leaf-sheep> Or use alias.  Or create a new symlink in /bin/firefox --> firefox-3.5
[22:49] <vavrek> LuisJa: If U wanna ff3.5 -> apt-get install firefox-3.5
[22:49] <vavrek> than U can run it via cmd firefox-3.5
[22:49] <ubuntu_> folks, i can not find /etc/init.d/mysqld? any clues?
[22:49] <Hellmark[S10e]> og
[22:49] <ubuntu_> the installation's run OK
[22:50] <ubuntu_> tried to google it up, no joy
[22:50] <LuisJa> I need help, i just installed firefox but it doesnt wanna load, the icons appear jumping close to the mouse but it doesnt wanna load :S
[22:51] <LuisJa> it can only load from konsole :S
[22:52] <ubuntu_> LuisJa, just curious, did you install anything lately?
[22:52] <LuisJa> see... i wanted to reinstall xp so i deleted linux :)
[22:52] <ubuntu_> right
[22:52] <LuisJa> for some reason, xp doesnt had drivers than let me connect to internet by lan
[22:53] <LuisJa> it was really frustating
[22:53] <LuisJa> so i decided to reinstall firefox
[22:53] <LuisJa> LOL i mean, linux
[22:53] <ubuntu_> ok
[22:53] <LuisJa> everything good, before upgrading to kde4.3 i installed firefox
[22:53] <LuisJa> but it doesnt loaded
[22:53] <LuisJa> thinked it was 4.2 glitch
[22:53] <LuisJa> ok, i upgraded to kde4.3
[22:54] <LuisJa> surprise, it also doesnt wanna load
[22:54] <LuisJa> ¬¬
[22:54] <LuisJa> i need my firefox =(
[22:55] <ubuntu_> well, TMHO you just need to get one step back to your previous working (with FF) version of KDE
[22:55] <LuisJa> uhh?
[22:55] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: can you run Firefox from konsole, but not from KDE Menu?
[22:55] <LuisJa> btw just for telling, i am using amd64
[22:55] <LuisJa> yes... but its a strange firefox
[22:55] <LuisJa> like a synaptic firefox
[22:56] <EagleScreen> do u mean Firefox 3.0 or Firefox 3.5? how did you installed it?
[22:56] <LuisJa> all buttons and icons are like synaptic
[22:56] <LuisJa> sudo apt-get install firefox
[22:56] <EagleScreen> ok let me see.
[22:57] <ubuntu_> leaf-sheep: are you around, please?
[22:58] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu_: Hi. :3
[22:58] <EagleScreen> LuisJa: run 'sudo aptitude remove firefox' and later 'sudo aptitude -R install firefox-3.5' (if you are in Jaunty)
[22:59] <LuisJa> ok let me try
[22:59] <ubuntu_> leaf-sheep: can not start my mysqld?
[22:59] <ubuntu_> there is no /etc/init.d/mysql whatsoever
[22:59] <ubuntu_> i mean .../mysqld
[23:00] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu_: Err, how is that relevant to me? I don't remember helping anybody out with that. Also, I never messed around with mysqld
[23:01] <LuisJa> nop EagleScreen, still not able to load it from graphic mode
[23:01] <leaf-sheep> ubuntu_: sudo ls -l /etc/init.d/m*  ---> Will list all services starting with m.
[23:01] <EagleScreen> okay it has a easy fix
[23:01] <EagleScreen> wait a momment please
[23:02] <ubuntu_> EagleScreen, leaf-sheep, ta
[23:16] <LuisJa> EagleScreen: so what was the easy fix...
[23:38] <LuisJa> EagleScreen: ????
[23:55] <Bookman> I am trying to create a dvd....I have created the video_ts and audio_ts directories with devede.  If I just burn a dvd with those directories, will it work with a standard dvd player?
[23:56] <leaf-sheep> Bookman: That's the idea.  Devede does not burn it for you or does it only create ISO?
[23:58] <BluesKaj> Dragnslcr, you may need to find alinux driver for that chipset seeing it's 5 yrs old , that could be why there's no response from wicd . It assumes either a working kernel module or a suitable driver for wicd to work.


[04:17] <mamece2> hello i have a screen problem, lubuntu booting screen is fine but when i get to the desktop is all messed. vertical lines, i am now in a tty session, what can i do to fix this?
[04:18] <holstein> mamece2: i would try at boot time, after the language question... hit F6 (i believe it is) and try 'nomodeset'
[04:19] <mamece2> holstein: i already installed lubuntu in the HD
[04:20] <mamece2> holstein: i tried it in another pc, it looks fine, but when i install the HD in an older PC, the video gets messed
[04:21] <holstein> mamece2: you can try ^^ from the live CD you used to install... you can add a custom xorg.conf file...
[04:21] <mamece2> how can i custom it?
[04:22] <holstein> mamece2: with any text editor really
[04:22] <holstein> sometimes, i boot live CD's til something works, and then i look for an xorg.conf, and copy (steal) it
[04:22] <holstein> usually knoppix is that live CD
[04:23] <mamece2> ill try it
[04:23] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and stopping X, and running sudo x --configure gave a handy file
[04:24] <holstein> true.. i got one from there that worked well for me too ^^
[04:28] <mamece2> some advanced stuff there bros
[06:41] <calamari> hi
[06:49] <calamari> well I was about to ask a question but answered it myself, yay :) Turns out there is still a way to increase the max task width past the default, just not via the GUI anymore. Edit  ~/.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel and change MaxTaskWidth=150 .. then kill/restart the panel
[06:49] <bioterror> does that affect on systray?
[06:50] <bioterror> for example laptop users has this xfce4-power-manager icon bug
[06:50] <calamari> oh, not sure, let me unplug my ac power
[06:50] <bioterror> that doesnt help
[06:50] <calamari> battery icon showed up
[06:50] <bioterror> you need to suspend and return from that state
[06:50] <bioterror> then that battery icon will move :-)
[06:51] <calamari> well I had it set to hide when plugged in
[06:51] <calamari> I guess I haven't gotten used to having a laptop yet, I always shut down lol
[06:51] <calamari> it only takes a few seconds to boot into lubuntu anyways
[06:54] <calamari> well I'll try suspend.. bbiam (hopefully)
[06:58] <calamari> well that didn't work.. couldn't figure out how to resume
[06:58] <bioterror> usually by pressing power button or lifting the lid up
[06:59] <calamari> yeah when I lifted the lid the screen turned on and I thought I saw a light on my usb keyboard change .. but it was frozen
[06:59] <calamari> no biggie
[13:14] <mamece2> hello i need some help. i have problems with my TRIDENT video card, in my old PC.
[13:23] <mamece2> please i need some help with the xorg.conf file
[14:16] <DanielSenat> Is there any point having CPUFreq frontend in the panel?
[14:21] <mamece2> maybe with conky iono
[14:22] <DanielSenat> ?
[14:22] <DanielSenat> What is that
[14:22] <DanielSenat> Will it make any difference in Lubuntu?
[14:31] <Minze> hi there, iam trying to get x11vnc into the Lubuntu-Startup, does anyone here know a sollution, as i didnt managed it
[14:31] <Minze> iam using 11.10
[14:33] <head_victim> Minze: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[14:33] <head_victim> I think that'
[14:33] <head_victim> s what you're chasing?
[14:33] <xsaidx> head_victim: you use git ?
[14:34] <head_victim> xsaidx: not really, I am your typical end user not really a dev
[14:35] <Minze> the problem is in 11.10 there isnt a folder called "/.config/autostart" do you think it works anyway?
[14:35] <head_victim> Minze: hmmm seems odd, maybe create it and see if it works.
[14:35] <head_victim> If it doesn't and no one else here can help I'd suggest asking on the mailing list :)
[14:35] <Minze> yep, trying :)
[14:36] <xsaidx> head_victim: ok ibtw if you meet phillw or bioterror or w.e can amke his hand on this channel tell em it wud be nice if they include that nice FAQ and that other lubuntu one stop thread when people get logged to this channel
[14:37] <head_victim> xsaid aww they left
[17:00] <Mr_EE1> hello
[17:00] <Mr_EE1> help me out with the tv card how to make it work on ubuntu11.10
[17:03] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: I told you what to do
[17:03] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: are you using lubuntu or ubuntu ?
[17:04] <Mr_EE1> ikonia:  lubuntu
[17:04] <ikonia> ok, it may help you in future to be clear, as you keep saying you're using ubuntu rather than lubuntu
[17:05] <ikonia> also, the instructions I gave you in ubuntu of checking the hardware compatability list for your device is still the first thing you need to do
[17:05] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: ok
[17:06] <Mr_EE1> ikonia: what you sended me?
[17:06] <ikonia> I've not sent you anything
[17:07] <Mr_EE1> so will you help me?
[17:07] <ikonia> I've told you what to do 3 times
[17:07] <ikonia> I've given you links and advice
[17:07] <ikonia> you need to start the process of checking if your card is supported under linux
[17:07] <ikonia> it is pointless to try to configure it if it's not
[17:08] <ikonia> so instead of wasting time, check the basics is your card supported under linux......lets check and find out
[17:08] <Mr_EE1> i was using fedora and it was supported in fedora
[17:08] <ikonia> what did you use in fedora ?
[17:09] <Mr_EE1> tv card
[17:09] <Mr_EE1> fedora13
[17:09] <ikonia> no, what software did you use in fedora to use it
[17:09] <Mr_EE1> xawtv
[17:09] <ikonia> that should also be available in ubuntu, as are others such as tvtime
[17:10] <Mr_EE1> ok i will check them
[17:10] <ikonia> install that software and configure it (as you did in fedora) and you should be fine
[17:10] <mark76> It's in debian so it'll be in Ubuntu
[17:10] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: next time if I spent 40 minutes trying to confirm if your card is supported, it maybe worth while telling me "it worked in Fedora 13"
[17:11] <Mr_EE1> ok thanks bro
[17:11] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: and if someone is helping you in 1 channel, joining another and asking the same question as if that help had not been given isn't the best approach
[17:12] <Mr_EE1> what is the best approach?
[17:13] <ikonia> Mr_EE1: giving as much information as possible
[17:13] <ikonia> eg: 1.) tell people you're using lubuntu instead of ubuntu
[17:13] <ikonia> 2.) if someone is asking you if the card is supported in linux and trying to explain to you how to check, tell them it works in fedora
[17:13] <ikonia> 3.) if someone has spent 40 minutes trying to help you, don't ignore their advice, join another channel and repeat the same question as if someone had not given you a lot of information
[17:13] <Mr_EE1> ok i see thanks man
[17:14] <Mr_EE1> i will learn alot
[17:29] <desertegl> hey everybody, quick question. im trying to install a minimalistic version of ubuntu 10.10 / lubuntu
[17:29] <desertegl> i still need a desktop
[17:29] <desertegl> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop says it will use roughly 600mb
[17:30] <desertegl> can i get away with sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core ?
[17:30] <desertegl> will my experience be greatly diminished by using the core only? will i even have a desktop?
[17:32] <bioterror> yes
[17:32] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core --no-install-recommends
[17:33] <desertegl> 10-4, i'll have enough to get by though right? i am sort of new to ubuntu and linux/gnu in general
[17:34] <desertegl> but i wanted a small install (minimal install) to go with this small netbook.
[18:03] <sidney> I just installed 11.10 where how do i open a drive i cant see them
[18:06] <sidney> found it under file manager
[18:47] <bindi__> hey
[18:47] <bindi__> my friend has an old laptop with p3 566, 256 ram and 10 GB hdd
[18:47] <bindi__> whenever he logs in, it checks for updates and then crashes
[18:48] <bindi__> told him to do ctrl+alt+f1 and do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:48] <bindi__> on upgrade, it did it's job for a little while and then it shut down
[18:53] <bioterror> if computer shuts down by itself, probably over heating
[18:55] <bindi__> *always* on the update part though
[18:55] <bindi__> i suggested that, we'll see
[19:15] <bioterror> !md5sum


[01:11] <sefsef> Can someone give me my LP page and ubuntu cloak?
[01:11] <Myrtti> surely you know yourself what your LP page is :-)
[01:12] <sefsef> I am still figuring out xhcat
[01:12] <sefsef> have not been a big user of it.
[01:12] <sefsef> First what is LP?
[01:13] <Myrtti> if you don't know what LP (Launchpad) is, it's unlikely you're a Ubuntu member - which is requirement for getting an Ubuntu cloak - either
[01:14] <Myrtti> any cloaks are applied for the registered freenode account, so you'd need to be registered and identified for *any* cloak.
[01:15] <sefsef> I do have a launchpad account, i am just not well versed with xchat
[01:16] <sefsef> i am registered for freenet
[01:19] <sefsef> so are you going to help me or should I get elfy or another fellow admin to help me
[01:19] <sefsef> ?
[01:20] <Myrtti> well first of all you need to identify to nickserv
[01:20] <Myrtti> /msg nickserv help identify
[01:20] <Myrtti> that should give you instructions on how to do it.
[01:21] <sefsef> ty
[01:21] <sefsef> how do i reset my password?
[01:23] <Myrtti> I've sent you reset instructions to your email
[01:26] <sefsef> ty.
[01:38] <Myrtti> mkay then.


[05:05] <bhavesh> Erm I am trying to install the daily build of Ubuntu 14.04 downloaded from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/, How do I make its bootable USB from windows?
[05:05] <bhavesh> As there is no option for Ubuntu 14.04 for non-released versions of Ubuntu in Universal USB installer 123
[05:06] <bhavesh> Should I use "Other Linux"?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:48] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[13:49] <sergiobenrocha2> nvidia-331-updates is not a bumblebee dependency?
[13:50] <sergiobenrocha2> for trusty?
[13:56] <sergiobenrocha2> *bumblebee-nvidia package
[15:03] <randomcpp> does anybody have the same message in terminals on trusty (desktop)? " no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4831, leaking memory "
[15:20] <randomcpp> ok It seems I'm not the only one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1257186
[23:46] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[23:46] <sergiobenrocha2> anyone?