[07:27] <livizy> doshitan: you got it
[07:27] <methylenedioxy> # Appears as KEVIN
[07:27] <seanj`> is there no possibility of 3d with nouveau?
[07:27] <onetinsoldier> spanther: hello.. still here? i'm having trouble. but going to try a couple more things
[07:28] <spanther> onetinsoldier,  yes I'm still here x)
[07:28] <doshitan> livizy: Ubuntu 10.04 made some changes to how their panel is set up and that breaks a lot of things when you try to use elements that aren't Ubuntu-specific, like gnome-shell
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> spanther: roger
[07:28] <methylenedioxy> # Appears as KEVIN
[07:28] <otis> how do u do the cube
[07:29] <rootlinuxusr> compiz+rotate cube
[07:29] <rootlinuxusr>  //desktop cube
[07:29] <livizy> doshitan: what does that mean
[07:29] <otis> yes
[07:29] <doshitan> livizy: I cope with the lack of panel stuff because I can control my volume and stuff through my netbook keyboard, but you don't have that option sadly
[07:29] <Fobia> gugu!
[07:29] <Fobia> SirLinux }{
[07:29] <SirLinux> :))
[07:30] <padde> hi
[07:30] <doshitan> livizy: Well, stuff like the volume applet and the indicators for running applications, Ubuntu ships with patched apps that tie into Ubuntu-specific notifications, which aren't present in something like gnome-shell
[07:31] <otis> any know how to do the desk top cube
[07:31] <seanj`> anyone?
[07:31] <doshitan> livizy: So some elements get lost because the shell isn't told what is going on
[07:31] <padde> I'm trying to install Ubuntu-Netbook 10.04 on a EEE 901, and after I set the keyboard layout, I get a notification that 'parted_server' crashed, and the installation does not proceed. what to do?
[07:31] <destroth> How do i install xp on my computer, I only has ubuntu right now?
[07:32] <destroth> hello
[07:32] <seanj`> hello, could someone answer my question please
[07:32] <destroth> 1500 people jeez
[07:33] <spanther> destroth, you can't install xp "after" ubuntu, because microsoft kills the mbr with it's own data and then you won't be able to choose to boot linux anymore :)
[07:33] <spanther> surely you can recover the mbr but that's nothing for beginners ^^
[07:33] <Chase-> spanther: Its actually not that hard.
[07:33] <spanther> Chase-, for beginners who ask how to install xp it is :P
[07:34] <livizy> doshitan: you mean that gnome panel and those applets,cant run in gnone shell,right?
[07:34] <doshitan> seanj: I do believe you have to use nvidia's proprietary driver for 3d support at this time
[07:34] <seanj`> oh man that sucks. okay thanks doshitan
[07:35] <onetinsoldier> spanther: i don't know. i can't seem to get it to work yet. i might keep trying for a bit though. i need to restart X a couple times to try stuff though. but i don't know if i'm going to get it figured out or not
[07:35] <Chase-> spanther: The hardest part will be creating the windows partition and doing the install.
[07:35] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:35] <destroth> so xp commands kernel?
[07:35] <destroth> or xp kernel commands c:\
[07:35] <destroth> is that right?
[07:35] <destroth> no its not
[07:35] <destroth> recov console is for noobs
[07:35] <FloodBot4> destroth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <destroth> can I safely say that the windows XP kernel commands primary partition?
[07:35] <silv3r_m00n> there is a page which has a lot mp3 files , I need to download all of them at once
[07:35] <silv3r_m00n> how ?
[07:35] <red> heya
[07:35] <spanther> weird thing is, when you disable desktop effects and later enable them again, it everytime makes a search for graphics drivers and wants to install again O.o
[07:35] <red> whats the equivalent of "hosts" file in ubuntu
[07:35] <red> I need to replace a few addresses
[07:35] <jken418> /etc/hosts
[07:36] <onetinsoldier> spanther: ok, i think i know what i forgot.. hang on
[07:36] <red> okay
[07:36] <jken418> silv3r_m00n: wget
[07:36] <seanj`> yes spanther that is quite irritating
[07:36] <seanj`> but if proprietary driver is the only way for now i'll do it
[07:36] <doshitan> livizy: Pretty much, the gnome2 panel and the gnome-shell (which will be gnome3) are completely different underneath and when you add ubuntu specific changes on top of that, a lot won't work in the gnome shell panel
[07:37] <MACscr> how can i make it so that i can right click on a file and run it in terminal?
[07:37] <spanther> well for me (at first) nouveau worked well! :P
[07:37] <spanther> i just need 3D for games so yeah i picked the official again xD
[07:37] <Spyzer> what is the best alternative to adobe flash in ubuntu??
[07:37] <jken418> Spyzer: gnash
[07:38] <spanther> swfdec ^^
[07:38] <livizy> doshitan: yep
[07:38] <jken418> Spyzer: but, you can install adobe flash if you want
[07:38] <seanj`> same here spanther ... i cant have no games, i already ditched all the proprietary ones i had
[07:38] <Spyzer> jken418: by wine ??
[07:38] <livizy> doshitan: maybe the only thing can run is tray
[07:38] <Spyzer> or is there a linux binary
[07:38] <hateball> !flash
[07:38] <vic20gmr> ive just installed fresh karmic, no updates dun yet, ive tried several things i found on net, but to no avail
[07:38] <jken418> Spyzer: there is a linux binary. The package you need is flashplugin-installer
[07:39] <seanj`> MACscr: if the file is .sh you can double click and get the option to run in a terminal.. I'm not sure how to add that to right-click menu, though
[07:39] <padde> is there a way I can skipt the partitioning step in the installer, and do that myself? it just hangs, because parted_server crashes for an unknown reason
[07:39] <vic20gmr> im trying to get sound to work in linux games
[07:39] <spanther> seanj`, well there's no reason to wipe proprietary "games" x) there are some cool ones like doom3! :)
[07:39] <Spyzer> but that is just an adobe plugin for firefox??
[07:39] <vic20gmr> i plan on using wine
[07:39] <MACscr> seanj`: thanks, found i needed to install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:39] <vic20gmr> any1 can help me fig this out?
[07:39] <seanj`> i love doom3 spanther .. or i did until i ran into problems and asked id for help
[07:39] <jken418> padde: you can with the alternate CD in expert mode
[07:39] <seanj`> and i get problems often, the companies never help
[07:39] <seanj`> so i woudl rather just stop using those games
[07:39] <seanj`> oh good MACscr
[07:40] <spanther> seanj`, lol yep ID dropped linux support (officially) i've heard (sadly) :(
[07:40] <padde> jken418: I'd like to use the Ubuntu Netbook edition, is there a boot option or something?
[07:40] <jken418> Spyzer: that's the flash player that will let you use flash applets in web browsers
[07:40] <gogeta> padde: hua
[07:40] <vic20gmr> prob having to do with their aquisition by zenymedia
[07:40] <seanj`> spanther: that's true... then again, they never really supported anyway.. it was a hobby..
[07:40] <doshitan> livizy: what do you mean?
[07:40] <padde> I cannot even report the crash, because "The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes."
[07:40] <seanj`> i think it's better to support free software games
[07:40] <tripelb> histo, nope. This computer regularly freezes so I regularly reboot. Say at most 4 days. -- I had this same problem with another (Dell) monitor and kjele helped me, viz: he added the line with openchrome
[07:40] <tripelb> Section "Device"
[07:40] <tripelb>         Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
[07:40] <tripelb>         Driver          "openchrome"
[07:40] <tripelb> EndSection
[07:40] <FloodBot4> tripelb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:40] <Spyzer> hmm so is there any flash applet which lets me create flash movies??
[07:40] <spanther> but hey screw IDSoftware! look at "Steam" from valve! :D released mac client and linux version (NATIVE!) is up to be released! x)
[07:40] <jken418> padde: ah, in that case, have you got the netbook edition image to install from?
[07:40] <seanj`> but that's me, I believe the whole rms software should be free thing
[07:41] <vic20gmr> i hate steam
[07:41] <MACscr> seanj`: ah, well, i found that i needed to install that, which i did, but its not showing up. Someone said they restarted their pc and then it did. How can i get it working without restarting?
[07:41] <padde> jken418: yes
[07:41] <seanj`> MACscr: maybe log out, log back in
[07:41] <destroth> sorry about flooding, but it seems like XP wont even try to install without installing to c:\, it just blue screens out and says there are drive errors, which I scan disk and its clean
[07:41] <gogeta> padde: or you can install netbook launcher on a normel install
[07:41] <MACscr> seanj`: when i log out, do i lose any of my open sessions,etc?
[07:41] <gogeta> padde: thats the main app of unr anyways
[07:41] <seanj`> destroth: if you make xp ntfs partitions with something other than the xp installer, it might not like them
[07:41] <destroth> and to press any key to restart
[07:42] <Fredag> Hi, I've got this problem with my wifi that's driving me insane. Tried getting my broadcom card to work on a laptop but finally gave up and used a dlink dwa-140 dongle instead. Installed the proper drivers, blacklisted the bad, ran ifconfig wlan0 up and it worked! After shutting my computer off I now can't get any wifi. The LED is gone, i find my network when scanning, but the network manager won't let me turn on wifi. Any thoughts
[07:42] <jken418> padde: if it's crashing, perhaps you have a corrupted download or CD. Running the integrity check it offers at the boot screen should determine this.
[07:42] <Fredag> ?
[07:42] <Spyzer> so can gnash help me to create swf movies as well??
[07:42] <padde> gogeta: I see. but aren't there optimisations, drivers, etc. that I'll miss?
[07:42] <destroth> so then you have to install XP 1st, because the kernel commands it?
[07:42] <gogeta> padde: naa
[07:42] <seanj`> MACscr: when i log out, i lose my current chat sessions, web browser, etc.. i know there's a way to restore them but i don't know exactly how
[07:42] <spanther> i'm so happy about valve's decision! x) i am so nervous and hope they'll release steam for linux soon x)
[07:42] <tripelb> vlc20gmr, did you see the video of the mac man who installed steam and says it messed up his computer. The comments on that have useful suggestions. (as well as saying he's an idiot)
[07:42] <histo> tripelb: hrm.. no idea
[07:43] <Chase-> spanther: Me, too, now I just need to remember my steam login from like 7 years ago.
[07:43] <gogeta> padde: thats the next ubuntu with there real netbook os called ubuntu lite
[07:43] <seanj`> destroth: XP overwrites the master boot record during install, so the boot loader for Ubuntu is erased too.. it should always be install Windows first, then Ubuntu or whatever other GNU+Linux you want
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[07:43] <alket> Hi, How to make Xchat to auto-join on startup to several channels ?
[07:43] <spanther> Chase-, just create a new one lol xD
[07:43] <padde> jken418: the CD is fine, I checked it already. I get a backtrace in /var/log/messages from libparted... maybe it doesn't like the two SSDs? but in any case, I'd consider that to be a bug in the installer / parted / ...
[07:43] <vic20gmr> tripelb, u mean helpfull sugg's ab getting sound working proper in karmic?
[07:43] <histo> tripelb: you might want to look at power management settings if it regularly freezes
[07:43] <tripelb> thanks for trying histo
[07:43] <Chase-> spanther: Cept all your purchased games are stored in the old one.
[07:43] <tripelb> vic20gmr,  about steam
[07:43] <vic20gmr> ahh
[07:43] <destroth> Thats not my question, although thank you for trying to help!
[07:44] <gogeta> padde: otm thers not mutch of a diffrence between unr and desktop other then the netbook launcherr talerd to small screens
[07:44] <vic20gmr> u have url for video?
[07:44] <jken418> padde: What doesn't it like about the drives? Are they showing up in the output of fdisk -l ?
[07:44] <spanther> after steam comes to linux, maybe this is a BIG jump in promoting this open platform for gaming! would be a big step for linux' publicity :D
[07:44] <destroth> How can you convince windows xp to install in the 1st place? it BSOD me!
[07:44] <histo> tripelb: like passing acpi=off tot he kernel in grub
[07:44] <destroth> It will never have a chance to overwrite the mbr
[07:44] <jken418> destroth: please stay on topic. This isn't a windows channel.
[07:44] <Chase-> spanther: Is it actually official that steam will come to linux?
[07:44] <histo> spanther: steam works with wine right now
[07:44] <destroth> I am trying to figure out how to get windows XP installed after ubuntu
[07:44] <seanj`> spanther: assuming proprietary games are worth it :/ i'd rather the free games improved.. and yes i am a big fan of HL2 TF2 Portal etc but... my mind is changing
[07:44] <vic20gmr> i doubt steam on "linux" will evr happe
[07:45] <vic20gmr> n
[07:45] <ChogyDan> destroth: maybe run XP in virtualbox
[07:45] <padde> jken418: yes, they show up fine. but if I try to start gparted, it crashes immediately
[07:45] <jken418> chase, spanther: steam is not really on topic here.
[07:45] <spanther> Chase-, yes because i saw linux version folders on the steam online servers in a hidden area hrhr x)
[07:45] <gogeta> Chase-: well they where working on it but hackers leaked it whos knoes now
[07:45] <tripelb> histo, ok. But how would that affect things? The monitor stays on, nothing moves. -- and -- I dont understand "passing acpi=off to the kernel in grub"
[07:45] <seanj`> destroth: did you make your XP partitions (c:\) with the XP installer, or with fdisk/cfdisk in Ubuntu ?
[07:45] <padde> jken418: "Assertion (head_size <= 63) at ... failed
[07:45] <histo> tripelb: what version of ubuntu do you ahve again?
[07:45] <gogeta> Chase-: you dont wana piss off vaulve like that
[07:45] <seanj`> destroth: I know some versions of Windows will only install on the first primary partition (c:\) maybe that's the problem
[07:45] <vic20gmr> SPEAKING of games, i am having a big headache with sound in ubuntu karmic
[07:45] <iflema> destroth if the first partionon the disk is not windows it will not go.... even as little as 50meg but must be upfront....
[07:45] <vic20gmr> any ideas?
[07:46] <jken418> padde: right... um, have you tried running parted?
[07:46] <destroth> It wont let me make anything with the xp installer, it just bsod anykey to reset
[07:46] <vic20gmr> ive tried many suggs ive googled up
[07:46] <seanj`> vic20gmr: which sound card are you using, and which version of Ubuntu?
[07:46] <iflema> destroth 4 XP that is
[07:46] <histo> tripelb: well see if you have /etc/default/grub and add to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAUL="quiet splash acpi=off"
[07:46] <jken418> !ot | destroth
[07:46] <vic20gmr> karmic, and an onboard audio
[07:46] <destroth> Its not off topic
[07:46] <vic20gmr> 1sec, ill get the name
[07:46] <histo> tripelb: then sudo update-grub
[07:46] <tripelb> histo, power management is never.
[07:46] <jken418> destroth: yes it is. You're asking for help installing a different os
[07:46] <destroth> Its a perfectly legitement question
[07:46] <gogeta> vic20gmr: all windows prefer being on primary but you can get it on a non primary with some tweaks
[07:46] <seanj`> well destroth maybe #windows95 on dalnet would know better how to install XP
[07:47] <alket> Hi, How to make Xchat to auto-join on startup to several channels ?
[07:47] <seanj`> it says windows95 but they do all version
[07:47] <vic20gmr> primary?
[07:47] <histo> !dualboot | destroth
[07:47] <tripelb> histo, fyi I have the 9.04 grub -- I have to look up what acpi is
[07:47] <vic20gmr> u mean direct alsa?
[07:47] <vic20gmr> o u mean soundcard
[07:47] <padde> jken418: parted works, at least I can 'select /dev/sda' and 'select /dev/sdb', and 'print' on them, without a crash
[07:47] <gogeta> destroth: your asking how to install xp
[07:47] <histo> tripelb: okay then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:47] <histo> tripelb: disregard what I told you previously
[07:47] <destroth> Ok, sry
[07:47] <seanj`> alket: go into your network list in options, select or add the network yuo want to use, then enter the channels yuo want to auto join on that network separated by , commas
[07:47] <gogeta> destroth: i dont get how thats hard
[07:48] <destroth> Well no1 else seems to know either
[07:48] <vic20gmr> i cant remeber term command for seeing my sc model
[07:48]  * jabirali has some off-topic neurological activity
[07:48] <seanj`> yeah vic20gmr .. i am no expert, but in some recent versions of Ubuntu I had serius sound problems.. a lot caused by the pulseaudio sound server
[07:48] <vic20gmr> remind me?
[07:48] <histo> tripelb: and there is a kernel line for the default kernel soemthing like linux blah.... quiet splash   add acpi=off to the end of it.
[07:48] <gogeta> destroth: knoe what
[07:48] <destroth> Figured i'd give it a shot
[07:48] <jken418> padde: ok, that's good. How about you do your partitioning in parted, and go from there?
[07:48] <spanther> world of goo will be a good native linux game for steam coming at release! x)
[07:48] <kevr> destroth: whats the problem?
[07:48] <vic20gmr> i tried removing pulse, but that made prob worse
[07:48] <vic20gmr> heh
[07:48] <histo> spanther: what areyou talking about?
[07:48] <destroth> you guys call me OT!
[07:48] <histo> jesus
[07:48] <histo> !ot
[07:48] <vic20gmr> right now sound comes in plain, then its all garbled/crackly
[07:48] <kevr> excuse me?
[07:48] <kevr> i just got here
[07:48] <alket> seanj' where ti write channels, to Channels Command ?
[07:49] <kevr> can you explain the problem, destroth?
[07:49] <destroth> Well I want to install XP after I install ubuntu
[07:49] <doshitan> seanj`: I would try to keep up with nouveau developments though, NVIDIA support is getting better
[07:49] <padde> jken418: but how do I go on in the installer? it hangs (supposedly because of the parted_server crash).
[07:49] <gogeta> destroth: that makes it harder then it has to be
[07:49] <spanther> histo, inside ubuntu offtopic are very few ppl :(
[07:49] <Fredag> no thoughts on why wifi wouldn't connect? it's driving me crazy
[07:49] <histo> destroth: did you follow the directions from ubottu
[07:49] <alket> seanj' thank you i got it :D
[07:49] <destroth> yes, I am trying to find the exact root cause as to why this is
[07:49] <seanj`> vic20gmr: for what it's worth, Ubuntu 10.04 solved all my sound troubles, with 2 different sound cards.. you coudl try the live cd and see if your sound works
[07:49] <seanj`> great alket
[07:49] <kevr> destroth: really you should just install xp then ubuntu.
[07:49] <histo> destroth: why what is?
[07:50] <kevr> destroth: xp overrides the boot loader and doesn't give a multiple boot menu
[07:50] <gogeta> destroth: installing xp will remove grub and you will have to restore it bvia live cd otherwise you shouldent have a problem
[07:50] <kevr> while ubuntu installs grub
[07:50] <kevr> and has windows in the list
[07:50] <destroth> I tried to say the kernel commandsprimary, but everyone gets mad
[07:50] <seanj`> i will definitely keep following it doshitan ... my goal is to run 100% libre software.. so it's important
[07:50] <kevr> kernel commands primary?
[07:50] <kevr> that doesnt make sense my friend
[07:50] <vic20gmr> well ive dled the iso, i tried to just "upgrade" to it, but i did Something wrong, cuz i got a grub "rescue" promt after reboot
[07:50] <seanj`> never heard of kernel commands
[07:50] <jken418> padde: ahh, it's the installer step? Sorry, I must've missed that; thougtht you were running gparted alone.  That is weird. You could try reinstalling gparted and/or ubiquity in the live cd environment.
[07:50] <kevr> there are kernel parameters
[07:50] <vic20gmr> ill have to wait till tomorrow to do lucid
[07:50] <destroth> Ok,I understand that part, I am also experienced with the recovery console
[07:50] <kevr> but it has nothing to do with primary
[07:51] <kevr> destroth: why are you even in the recovery console?
[07:51] <gogeta> lol
[07:51] <destroth> For school
[07:51] <seanj`> sorry vic20gmr .. like is said im no expert, but the latest ubuntu, as a fresh install, worked perfectly for me
[07:51] <gogeta> this guy
[07:51] <kevr> heh
[07:51] <vic20gmr> ill keep in mind, thx for the info u do have ;)
[07:51] <histo> destroth: you need to leave some free spac eon the drive and install xp to that. then you have to please xps boot loader because it freakes sometimes if its not the first partition.  Then you have to boot a live cd and reinstall grub because xp will blow out the mbr
[07:52] <vic20gmr> btw any1 here ever use/used zrc?
[07:52] <gogeta> destroth: install xp then boot ubuntu live cd and restore grub
[07:52] <DonScott> my windows buttons have mysteriously disappeared..
[07:52] <kevr> or save the hassle
[07:52] <kevr> and install xp first
[07:52] <onetinsoldier> spanther: sorry, but i can't seem to figure it out
[07:52] <spanther> onetinsoldier, no problem :(
[07:52] <jhattara> a3ist, here's the fstab: http://pastebin.com/sTmdykCY
[07:52] <histo> DonScott: did the top of the windows disappear also?
[07:52] <spanther> onetinsoldier, i can live without nice looking cursors heh ^^
[07:52] <gogeta> destroth: and xp first even easer
[07:52] <seanj`> no idea what zrc is, google says zombie reporting center... haha
[07:52] <histo> DonScott: hit alt+f2 and metacity --replace    if you use metacity or compiz --replace if you use compiz
[07:53] <destroth> This is where it gets OT i guess theres a fine line, because it never gets a chance to overwrite anything, its fails with the bsod
[07:53] <firekraag> DISPLAY=:0 before no?
[07:53] <vic20gmr> destroth wut ubuntu u usin/
[07:53] <histo> !ot | spanther
[07:53] <vic20gmr> ?
[07:53] <eipi-1> any thinkpadder here? I would like to configure the sensibility of hdaps, if that is possible.
[07:53] <spanther> histo, yeah, thank you ...
[07:53] <DonScott> yeah
[07:53] <destroth> 9.1
[07:53] <vic20gmr> karmic huh?
[07:53] <vic20gmr> ur sound work? heh
[07:54] <gogeta> destroth: best way is just to leave a empty partation for xp to format
[07:54] <eipi-1> or better to say, the sensibility of the module that pauses the harddisk.
[07:54] <histo> destroth: probably because its not ont he primary parition the people in #windows may be of more help
[07:54] <seanj`> i always wanted to try a thinkpad, but never got the chance
[07:54] <Fredag> anyone with experience on network-managers trouble with wifi?
[07:54] <destroth> 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:54] <histo> destroth: ask them about installing windows to a non primary parition like a dualboot setup.
[07:54] <DonScott> ahhhh ok that worked...thanks histo
[07:54] <gogeta> histo: xp should see it as primary
[07:54] <kevr> histo: it doesnt matter if windows is the primary partition either way
[07:54] <gogeta> histo: being it ignors linux fs
[07:54] <histo> gogeta: xp's bootloader is retarded and gets all jacked some times
[07:55] <kevr> xp will rape the boot record of the entire disc
[07:55] <destroth> I know this
[07:55] <seanj`> well, at least mbr viruses die
[07:55] <kevr> i wasn't talking to you, destroth
[07:55] <gogeta> histo: as long as itds seen as c: it thinks its primary
[07:55] <rocket161> Is there a small application, for adding tasks to evolution instantly, without opening it? Like the way we get to see the evolution tasks on the clock applet?
[07:55] <padde> jken418: I'll try that... in any case, I consider that problem in the install process that should be fixed
[07:55] <histo> gogeta: no i've seen it cause issues not being the first partition or not being a primary parition.
[07:56] <histo> gogeta: it could be on a logical and it will go nuts
[07:56] <seanj`> destroth: not to be offensive, but do you really need xp?
[07:56] <gogeta> histo: i always have xp on the first
[07:56] <rocket16> Friends, any way to do so?
[07:56] <kevr> gogeta: also not true.. you can name it any letter tbh - on installation it knows which drive its being installed it and it tells that to its boot record, then points the mbr to the partitions boot record
[07:56] <kevr> thats plain and simple
[07:56] <seanj`> no idea, rocket16
[07:56] <kevr> no need for any rearranging or anything
[07:56] <kevr> it installs to point where windows is installed.
[07:56] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:56] <kevr> eos.
[07:56] <kevr> and its a shitty system.
[07:56] <FloodBot4> kevr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <vic20gmr> destroth
[07:56] <rocket16> seanj`: Ok, thanks for the reply. Let me try to check it once,
[07:56] <silv3r_m00n> is there a winamp-dfx kind of thing in ubuntu to play songs with gr8 music
[07:57] <vic20gmr> ur wanting to install xp after 9.10 karmic?
[07:57] <histo> gogeta: yes and you don't have problems. Try instlaling it later
[07:57] <silv3r_m00n> I mean a sound enhancement thing
[07:57] <vic20gmr> destroth, mabe this will help u?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[07:57] <gogeta> histo: if i rember my windows trick you have to edit some files to make it boot on a second partation
[07:57] <Spyzer> is there any package like ktoon which can make swf movies and has actionscript support also??
[07:57] <Vigo_> rocket16: Maybe here:> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lucid-changes/2009-December/001920.html
[07:57] <kevr> no, you don't.
[07:58] <histo> destroth: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22xp+after+ubuntu%22
[07:58] <rocket16> Vigo_: Thanks, let me check out the link. :)
[07:58] <vic20gmr> WHO is trying to install XP AFTER UBUNTU?
[07:58] <seanj`> silv3r_m00n: I used to use XMMS which had lots of cool plugins.. VLC can also do some neat stuff too
[07:58] <kevr> everyone just told you how to do it anyways
[07:58] <histo> gogeta: correct thats what i'm telling hjim to modify xp's bootloader but its way off topic here
[07:58] <onetinsoldier> spanther: i see something wrong with the theme itself i think... there is no 'Source' directory included with it, which contains the actual cursor images
[07:58] <kevr> install ubuntu, install xp on another partition, boot into ubuntu live cd, install grub to MBR
[07:58] <kevr> edit menu.lst to fit your needs
[07:58] <kevr> easy
[07:58] <Vigo_> rocket16: You are very welcome, That link explains and has relevancy to what you asked.
[07:58] <gogeta> histo: i think grub does it to by addin +1
[07:59] <kevr> chainloader.
[07:59] <silv3r_m00n> seanj`: xmms has only that equilizer , that doesn't enhace sound like dfx plugin of winamp or , say a portable mp3 player
[07:59] <rocket16> Vigo_: Sure, my earnest gratitude for the precious help you rendered.
[07:59] <vic20gmr> this is THREAD for XP AFTER UBUNTU  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1014708
[07:59] <silv3r_m00n> even the portable mp3 player makes the music sound gr8 and 3d
[07:59] <jken418> silv3r_m00n: what do you mean by enhance sound?
[07:59] <vic20gmr> hope it helps
[07:59] <gogeta> histo: tricking xps loader
[07:59] <histo> gogeta: correct chainloader  is needed.
[07:59] <onetinsoldier> spanther: or i don't know.. maybe that dir isn't needed. dangit. i'm frustrated i can't seem to figure this one out
[07:59] <seanj`> silv3r_m00n: did you ever look at the XMMS plugins options
[07:59] <lambrecht> mornin
[07:59] <seanj`> there are a bunch of DSP tweaks and effects
[07:59] <histo> gogeta: he's not even to that point
[07:59] <silv3r_m00n> jken418: dfx plugin for winamp or  the 3d kind of sound that comes from a portable music player
[08:00] <Spyzer> flash professional alternative for ubuntu??
[08:00] <silv3r_m00n> seanj`: let me check
[08:00] <seanj`> silv3r_m00n: but, it's been a while and I'm not sure newer Ubuntu releases distribte XMMS anymore
[08:00] <jken418> silv3r_m00n: Sound is not three dimensional. HTH
[08:00] <Spyzer> * flash professional alternative for ubuntu??
[08:00] <silv3r_m00n> jken418: perception might be
[08:00] <seanj`> the default installation included a simple echo plug-in, but more could be added from the resository
[08:00] <gogeta> Spyzer: hua
[08:00] <histo> !patience | Spyzer
[08:00] <seanj`> err, repository
[08:00] <Flannel> !xmms | silv3r_m00n, seanj`
[08:00] <Spyzer> * sorry
[08:00] <seanj`> thanks Flannel
[08:01] <gogeta> Spyzer: i dont understand what you juts said
[08:01] <jken418> silv3r_m00n: Do you mean something that simulates a surround sound speaker setup in a stereo system?
[08:01] <Docteh> is bmpx beep?
[08:01] <histo> Spyzer: there are none
[08:01] <histo> Spyzer: to answer your question
[08:01] <pandabbl> deb     http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor feisty main
[08:01] <Spyzer> gogeta: i am abig fan of DBZ. ahem to th topic. Is there any open source alternative to adobe flash professional??
[08:01] <seanj`> sorry silv3r_m00n i guess there aren't many options
[08:01] <Spyzer> * ohh no??
[08:01] <seanj`> winamp in wine maybe
[08:01] <pandabbl> what would lucid lynx be?
[08:01] <silv3r_m00n> has xmms2 a gui like xmms ?
[08:02] <pandabbl> http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor/dists/
[08:02] <Vigo_> rocket16: In those threads the common theme seems to be widgets. I am still looking....
[08:02] <histo> Spyzer: you can try with wine possibly and use the windows one.
[08:02] <gogeta> Spyzer: no only flash player for linux
[08:02] <pandabbl> stable?
[08:02] <Docteh> silv3r_m00n: most likely yes
[08:02] <histo> Spyzer: otherwise you will have to look into html5
[08:02] <seanj`> pandabbl: stable
[08:02] <pandabbl> cool
[08:02] <pandabbl> just double checking
[08:02] <gogeta> Spyzer: yea i was abought to say htlm5 for video
[08:02] <Spyzer> histo: what's with html5??
[08:02] <gogeta> html5
[08:02] <gogeta> Spyzer: html4 supports mp4 streaming video
[08:03] <gogeta> 5
[08:03] <histo> Spyzer: looks like flash 8 works with wine
[08:03] <histo> Spyzer: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3673
[08:03] <rocket16> Vigo_: Thanks. I am interested too, and searching a bit on Googlesearch
[08:03] <pandabbl> i am likeing lucid lynx
[08:03] <Spyzer> hmm...
[08:03] <seanj`> silv3r_m00n: apparently no gui for xmms2, which is weird
[08:04] <jken418> silv3r_m00n: a cursory goole seems to indicate that there are solutions for what you're after. Look into sox perhaps, and maybe various plugins for alsa. pulseaudio, vlc and/or xmms2
[08:04] <gogeta> seanj`: xmm2 is ment to run in the backround and play p3s
[08:04] <seanj`> I'm boring and use stuff like rhythmbox, exhaile, amarok for playing music
[08:04] <gogeta> mp3s
[08:04] <histo> Spyzer: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=23  that page has more info about adobe products and wine
[08:04] <seanj`> ah okay gogeta, thanks
[08:04] <kevr> MP Dftw
[08:04] <kevr> MPD ftw*
[08:04] <Vigo_> rocket16: This forum thread used Google Gadgets and one used some scripting, looks simple enough: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1005790.html
[08:04] <seanj`> I use mpg123/321 for stuff that isn't tagged and the other players don't index
[08:05] <Docteh> wow, 750mb of ram in use on 32bits as well
[08:05] <seanj`> that's half the fun of all this software though, trying it out
[08:05] <gogeta> seanj`: yea i wish they world work on xmms again i liked that player
[08:05] <pandabbl> W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD
[08:05] <seanj`> me too gogeta, it was very nice
[08:05] <histo> Docteh: in use by programs or cahce + programs?
[08:05] <pandabbl> sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net -- recv 94C09C7F  => doesnt work
[08:05] <rayer> 大家好
[08:05] <rayer> 有中国人吗
[08:06] <jken418> !zh | rayer
[08:06] <Docteh> histo: the -/+ buffers cache line says 771532
[08:06] <rayer> hi everyone
[08:06] <seanj`> hi rayer
[08:06] <pandabbl> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/'user'/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
[08:06] <rayer> hi
[08:06] <rocket16> !hi > rayer
[08:06] <twiztid> if anyone has any experience with greasemonkey for firefox?:::im using the script that uses the default player in youtube... is there a way to set the player to start playing the video sooner; as opposed to it playing when its almost done downloading
[08:06] <gogeta> seanj`: what funny is xxms2 does what mplayer has done for years
[08:06] <rayer> what?
[08:06] <tsimpson> pandabbl: try "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys CFF71CB3AFA44BDD"
[08:06] <histo> Docteh: where are you getting that?
[08:07] <rww> pandabbl: chmod 600 ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[08:07] <Docteh> from free
[08:07] <pandabbl> my permissions looked fine
[08:07] <histo> Docteh: gotcha
[08:07] <seanj`> twiztid: I don't think it's possible to stream files that way, they would have to download first :(
[08:07] <jken418> pandabbl: you don't want that file to be readable by anyone but you
[08:08] <Docteh> seems a bit much to be in use
[08:08] <seanj`> yeah gogeta, not revolutionary, kind of redundant
[08:08] <pandabbl> changed the chmod
[08:08] <histo> Docteh: but its cache
[08:08] <pandabbl> still same error
[08:08] <tripelb> histo, it took me a while to copy all of this into a file so I can refer to it later. (I have Ubuntu 9.10 upgraded from 9.04, so I dont have the new grub.) Glad I hadnt done anything yet when I saw the _Disregard_, heh. (Re "freeze" aka "locks up". This never happens at boot. Most dramatically during flash (gives me audio loop). I only use chrome now. I think it was worse with FF.) What I learned: ACPI means (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) and works
[08:08] <tripelb>  to suspend (hybernate) AFAIK and does not seem related to a computer that "stops operating, ie running a program (flash) or responding to input. (no keyboard flash, ctl-sysreq +reisub does not work).  (PASTEBIN NOT WORKING NOW)  - so what next?
[08:08] <seanj`> it's not bad to see most of your memory cached
[08:08] <histo> Docteh: probably not even half of that amount is actuallying being used
[08:09] <twiztid> seanj`: darn, is there anything even close to that? im out of ideas to make flash video smooth, i just cant get it...
[08:09] <jken418> Docteh: It's not in use; it's cached data to increase access speed for programs you might use soon. If you do something else, linux will manage the RAM accordingly. Don't worry!
[08:09] <seanj`> twiztid: no luck with the proprietary flashplayer or gnash?
[08:09] <Docteh> no its 750mb actual, 2gb including the cache
[08:09] <llutz> pandabbl: sudo chown -R you:you ~/.gnupg
[08:09] <Docteh> sec i'll pastebin the free command
[08:09] <Docteh> !pastebin
[08:09] <seanj`> twiztid: I tend to download the file and play with vlc, which involves waiting, but plays smoothly
[08:09] <histo> tripelb: from my experience some systems have buggy power management support with the ubuntu kernel. Disabling acpi is usally my first step in trobuleshooting them.
[08:10] <histo> tripelb: I've got several dells that willnot work with acpi enabled they randomly lock up after a day or two some times less
[08:10] <pandabbl> same error
[08:10] <gogeta> tripelb: i say acpi=off apm=off
[08:10] <destroth> Mine idles at 400mb, And i have all kinda shit going
[08:10] <gogeta> tripelb: kill all the power magment
[08:11] <seanj`> only memory trouble i ever had was with 64 bit vista
[08:11] <seanj`> ran out
[08:11] <Docteh> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/435363/
[08:11] <seanj`> while playing crysis :|
[08:11] <twiztid> seanj`: i heard gnash was bad... but then again, nope havent tried it... and proprietary flashplayer? not sure wat you mean, im using the adobe flash player 10; and ya i did a short video and it played smooth but waiting for the download isnt ideal...
[08:11] <seanj`> anywayh that's ot, sorry
[08:11] <destroth> lol
[08:11] <llutz> pandabbl: paste please the output of "ls -l ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf"
[08:11] <Docteh> destroth: are you running compiz?
[08:11] <destroth> yup
[08:12] <jken418> Docteh: That looks perfectly healthy to me.
[08:12] <seanj`> twiztid: that's weird... it should play as it downloads with adobe flash 10.. which btw is the "proprietary" flash player...
[08:12] <destroth> dont have expanded dt from other jack atm tho
[08:12] <gogeta> tripelb: my pc had a bad habbit of shutting down the dans before kernel 2.6 and i had to do that
[08:12] <gogeta> fans
[08:12] <pandabbl> -rw------- 1 nick nick 28 2010-05-07 01:01 /home/nick/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[08:12] <seanj`> pandabbl: that looks right
[08:12] <seanj`> pandabbl: are you still bbl? :P
[08:12] <tsimpson> pandabbl: try adding the -H option to sudo
[08:13] <Docteh> jken418: all I'm running is a terminal, system monitor and firefox opened to just the pastebin, seems a tad high
[08:13] <pandabbl> im alway a different person
[08:13] <jken418> Docteh: Only start worrying if swap is being used extensively.
[08:13] <twiztid> seanj`: it downloads and plays flash but its choppy;
[08:13] <pandabbl> why do i need the usage
[08:13] <destroth> Check your htop to see all the processes
[08:13] <Docteh> I fired up einstein@home and I was using swap
[08:13] <dobber> hi, i have lucid amd64. everytime i logoff i have zombie couchdb+evolution processes. I haven't even used evolution!
[08:13] <gogeta> twiztid: why not use kickyoutube and download it as mp4 or soemthing
[08:13] <jken418> Docteh: As I said before, it caches things in RAM for quick access. Nothing's actually happening with the data, but it's in the memory for speed.
[08:13] <kevr> Docteh: the bloat is from the default ubuntu kernel and desktop environments
[08:13] <seanj`> twiztid: another thing I wonder is if the driver for your graphics card is installed... with only a basic driver, video acceleration may be disabled, which can make movies choppy
[08:14] <gogeta> twiztid: rather then using greasemonkey
[08:14] <kevr> look into custom compiling a kernel, and using a window manager
[08:14] <kevr> like awesomewm or openbox
[08:14] <pandabbl> gpg --fingerprint 94C09C7F
[08:14] <pandabbl> as a regular user i get permission denied
[08:14] <destroth> my swap says 0
[08:14] <Laibsch> I have a Huawei USB stick (CDMA-type, a bit of a strange animal) that used to work fine at least with gnome-ppp.  After the latest round of updates, the same connection now says "Invalid dial command": http://paste.debian.net/73716/  Anybody familiar with AT commands?
[08:14] <kevr> so use sudo
[08:14] <pandabbl> with sudo i get that gpg error
[08:14] <histo> tripelb: I would also try a memtest on the machine.
[08:14] <kevr> so try sudo -H
[08:14] <destroth> mem 441
[08:14] <seanj`> destroth: 0 swap? that can't be good...
[08:14] <patricia> q
[08:14] <twiztid> gogeta: havent heard of kickyoutube... im trying to get streaming vids smooth
[08:14] <pandabbl> sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net -- recv 94C09C7F
[08:15] <kevr> seanj`: thats perfectly fine.
[08:15] <pandabbl> is this command correct for lynx?
[08:15] <kevr> as long as you have enough
[08:15] <destroth> what do i do?
[08:15] <pandabbl> worked on other distros
[08:15] <kevr> destroth: how much ram do you have?
[08:15] <destroth> 4gig
[08:15] <jken418> Docteh: This is a good thing. If you're short on RAM, you will be able to tell because swap will be being used. swap is on the hard disk, so its access times are much slower than RAM. You will see a drop in performance then, and things will feel sluggish.
[08:15] <gogeta> twisted`: go to the video you wanna download and add kick to the url
[08:15] <kevr> destroth: you dont need swap
[08:15] <destroth> 64 bit os
[08:15] <seanj`> kevr: I've never tried to run a system without swap, i always thought the world would end
[08:15] <alket> is it possible to develop silverlight apps in ubuntu ?
[08:15] <jken418> Docteh: but as you are now, it's fine :)
[08:15] <kevr> ive run one stably for half a year
[08:15] <kevr> as a server
[08:15] <kevr> with 0 swap
[08:15] <gogeta> twisted`: kickyoutube.com/blabla
[08:15] <histo> Laibsch: yeah it looks messed up
[08:16] <seanj`> yes alket with moonlight, as far as i know
[08:16] <Laibsch> histo: in what way?
[08:16] <twiztid> seanj`: i have open source drivers on a 512mb ati radeon x1300 agp card, single core 2.0ghz cpu; 1.25gbs ram
[08:16] <vic20gmr[karmic]> ive been lookin around ubuntu forums, and im getting the impression that karmic sound is just broken, and theres nothing i can do to make it work
[08:16] <tripelb> histo have done memtest
[08:16] <vic20gmr[karmic]> can any1 give me a lifeline here?
[08:16] <Laibsch> histo: I don't remember changing anything.  So I'd wonder where I need to tweak things and how.
[08:16] <gogeta> twisted`: having compiz on can slow down your video
[08:16] <pandabbl>   tor: Depends: libevent1 (>= 1.3e) but it is not installable
[08:16] <patricia> hola
[08:16] <seanj`> twiztid: can you pastebin the output of: glxinfo | grep direct
[08:16] <jken418> vic20gmr[karmic]: At the risk of sounding rude, have you tried lucid?
[08:16] <twiztid> gogeta: ya i have it off rite now
[08:17] <destroth> anyone got a good link to some cshell scripts on ubuntu?
[08:17] <seanj`> oh, if it works i guess what i just said doesn't apply
[08:17] <Docteh> this htop app looks cooler than normal top
[08:17] <kevr> cshell?
[08:17] <pandabbl> i cant install libevent1
[08:17] <Laibsch> histo: *99***1# is the "telephone number".  The ATM command, I don't know about
[08:17] <gogeta> twisted`: probly the low ram and shared video card dregging
[08:17] <kevr> you mean shell?
[08:17] <destroth> sh won
[08:17] <vic20gmr[karmic]> i tried "upgrading" but after 2:30 hrs of my life were taken away, i got a GRUB<RESCUE> prompt upon reboot
[08:17] <kevr> ah.
[08:17] <kevr> depends what you need it for
[08:17] <Docteh> kevr: "csh" its != bash or regular shell
[08:18] <destroth> I got the csh version for ubuntu just not sure of the differences
[08:18] <gogeta> twisted`: i found firefox to have the fastest flash support beleve it or not
[08:18] <kevr> Docteh: bash == sh
[08:18] <twiztid> seanj`: direct rendering enabled ... pastebin.com is down for moving to a new server
[08:18] <seanj`> i used csh on freebsd.. it had no tab completion
[08:18] <llutz> kevr: dash = sh today
[08:18] <kevr> not true.
[08:18] <Docteh> kevr: lalalala nothings changed since the 90s i cant hear you ;)
[08:18] <kevr> you can choose if you want to use dash
[08:18] <gogeta> twisted`: also install adblock and flashblock so you dont have a bunch of flash ads slowing you down
[08:18] <dobber> hi, i have lucid amd64. everytime i logoff i have zombie couchdb+evolution processes. I haven't even used evolution! any ideas
[08:18] <llutz> kevr: as default in more and more distros it is
[08:19] <destroth> I wanna make a sweet ass .bash_profile
[08:19] <kevr> lol not really.
[08:19] <twiztid> gogeta: dregging?
[08:19] <destroth> Like the matrix shit
[08:19] <pandabbl> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/TXJvY1jx
[08:19] <jken418> kevr: sh is dash in lucid
[08:19] <histo> dobber: have you updated?
[08:19] <kevr> in lucid
[08:19] <gogeta> twisted`: yea flash ads will slow down your video
[08:19] <kevr> not most distros
[08:19] <histo> !who
[08:19] <vic20gmr[karmic]> jken418, u familiar with playdeb.net?
[08:19] <jken418> vic20gmr[karmic]: no
[08:20] <vic20gmr[karmic]> whole mess of games there
[08:20] <gogeta> twisted`: you probly whont get fast video in full screen with 512mb of ram and a shared card
[08:20] <vic20gmr[karmic]> urban terro stand alone!
[08:20] <destroth> is csh and dash samething?
[08:20] <dobber> histo i'm up to the latest version
[08:20] <seanj`> out of ideas :(
[08:20] <llutz> kevr: most debian-related, all *buntu since 9.04(or earlier) and more. i haven't said "most"
[08:20] <gogeta> twisted`: unless you download it and use a player like vlc
[08:21] <seanj`> no destroth, they are different
[08:21] <twiztid> gogeta: oh gotcha, i8 then im gunna install flashblock and adblock,;;;; i have 1.25 GB RAM    my video card has 512mb RAM
[08:21] <Docteh> destroth: for badass my dad recently came up with the idea of making the root prompt say 'pgmr@host # sudo '
[08:21] <gogeta> twisted`: oh i thought you said 512 ram
[08:21] <akashv> Docteh: good idea
[08:21] <gogeta> twisted`: it shouldent be going slow
[08:21] <seanj`> my vid card has 512 mb ram and runs flash just fine
[08:21] <seanj`> so yeah, puzzling
[08:21] <twiztid> gogeta: all good, ya im stumped as to why its so slow... >:(
[08:21] <seanj`> maybe the radeon driver has a bug?
[08:22] <gogeta> twisted`: youtube doesent lag on my netbook
[08:22] <destroth> I'm actually thinking of switching from networking and security to programming
[08:22] <kevr> bad idea destroth.
[08:22] <gogeta> twisted`: gig you enable hardware acell in your flah player prefs
[08:22] <kevr> but to each his own.
[08:22] <destroth> Networking and security is mostly microsoft shit
[08:22] <seanj`> destroth: programming more fun + creative
[08:22] <twiztid> seanj`: open source... how would i even begin to find the bug?
[08:22] <kevr> no, its not
[08:22] <kevr> lol
[08:22] <vic20gmr[karmic]> speaking of radeons, i have a radeon 9600, do i get a suitable driver from just installing ubuntu?
[08:22] <FloodBot4> kevr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:22] <destroth> at our school
[08:22] <vic20gmr[karmic]> or do i need to dl something?
[08:22] <gogeta> twisted`: its ptobl your 3rd party player being slow
[08:22] <MACscr> when run lspci | grep VGA, its showing my two video cards and its showing both as compatible. But when i go to monitor preferences, it only shows 2 of my 3 video cards. Any tips?
[08:22] <kevr> go through unix/linux serv admin..make a crapload
[08:23] <seanj`> twiztid:  you and me both, have to rely on the developers.. which is the same situation with non-free software anyway
[08:23] <elky> destroth, could you please watch the potty mouth while in here?
[08:23] <destroth> The teacher is so inept, if I do its not going to be at this school
[08:23] <seanj`> twiztid: on the upside, we can make bug reports that actually get attention... but i am only guessing it might be a bug, i don't know for sure
[08:23] <destroth> sry
[08:23] <jken418> vic20gmr[karmic]: yes, just install ubuntu. Then it'll tell you if there are extra drivers available
[08:23] <kevr> ah
[08:23] <kevr> elky: fuck.
[08:23] <vic20gmr[karmic]> but i get a suitable one right off?
[08:24] <jken418> vic20gmr[karmic]: yes, it should just work
[08:24] <vic20gmr[karmic]> im gessin so since i can set visual fx all the way "up"
[08:24] <wildbat> anyone know how to i get stumpwn working in 10.04?
[08:24] <seanj`> vic20gmr[karmic]: not sure, i just started using ati cards, because of a need to run freedom-respecting software
[08:24] <twiztid> seanj`: yup yup, could it be that i have a unichrome VIA KT400 chipset? the fact that i have that gave me BSOD with games like portal in windows...
[08:24] <vic20gmr[karmic]> well i gess im putting up with crap sound till the morrow
[08:25]  * vic20gmr[karmic] sighs
[08:25] <the_file> can anybody please tell me the major differences between debian and ubuntu operating systems?.
[08:25] <vic20gmr[karmic]> 24
[08:25] <the_file> I know that ubuntu is a debian derivative
[08:25] <CaptainTrek> debian is old, the_file
[08:25] <CaptainTrek> xD
[08:25] <scottj> wildbat: nope, I've tried creating a stumpwm.desktop file and .xinitrc w/ no luck. I couldn't get it to work on 9.10 though either
[08:25] <red2kic> the_file: Debian is all about stability.
[08:25] <gogeta> the_file: ubuntu includes non-free apps
[08:25] <wildbat> scottj, me too :<
[08:25] <Docteh> the_file: update schedules, default themes, ubuntu likes to change things like the init system
[08:26] <gogeta> Docteh: no that eas debian
[08:26] <gogeta> was
[08:26] <tripelb> ok, ty I may be getting somewhere histo goeta. Now: I put "never" on system>preferences>powermanagement>display "put display to sleep" (tho mine stays bright). I also did update-grub on general principles. NOW: where do I do? acpi=off apm=off   AND What does dans mean ( shutting down the dans )  [I so appreciate this, I've been working on it here and Uforums (just checked that, some good suggestions to try. I have freed up space by trashing movies. http://ubuntu
[08:26] <tripelb> forums.org/showthread.php?t=1484181]
[08:26] <the_file> but debian uses the same pannels system as ubuntu right?.
[08:26] <Docteh> i thought upstart was ubuntu's fault ;)
[08:26] <llutz> gogeta: debian changed to use upstart? when??
[08:26] <seanj`> twiztid: ouch. are you able to play other types of movies with no problems
[08:26] <vic20gmr[karmic]> well i imagine debian is "all ab stability" in part [at least] cuz its the basis of ubuntu and others?
[08:26] <onetinsoldier> spanther: hello again. i might have figured it out... brb
[08:26] <jken418> the_file: Ubuntu is designed to be more newbie-friendly, but most differences are essentially superficial. There are some philosophical differences too.
[08:26] <scottj> wildbat: the only way I've gotten to work is using the xterm session and starting it manually
[08:26] <destroth> Does anyone have a nice link to some ubuntu scripts that will get me on my way?
[08:26] <gogeta> llutz: he said init system that was debain
[08:26] <seanj`> vic20gmr[karmic]: definitely recommend trying 10.04 live cd to see if problems are resolved with it
[08:27] <seanj`> scripts to do what destroth
[08:27] <HiddenInCN> hello
[08:27] <HiddenInCN> How to add a bot to ircd?
[08:27] <wildbat> scottj, hmmm ~ may be i should try ~
[08:27] <gogeta> HiddenInCN: bot are just scripts
[08:27] <seanj`> Debian provides non-free software too, but requires a little work to enable them
[08:27] <destroth> To show me the codes for clear and do and loop sllep grep sort etc, and the proper syntax, like sample scripts.
[08:27] <jken418> the_file: Debian Stable is *very* stable. Use that if you want a system that will not break, but isn't cutting edge. Debian Testing is more cutting-edge, but less stable. Ubuntu tries to be the happy medium.
[08:28] <red2kic> HiddenInCN: supybot -- GL.
[08:28] <HiddenInCN> gogeta: where to get it ?
[08:28] <seanj`> HiddenInCN: you could try eggdrop bot, which runs separate from ircd and acts like a client
[08:28] <twiztid> seanj`: ya native videos are smooth, its the streaming online videos that are choppy...
[08:28] <vic20gmr[karmic]> i was also wondering, if i set my mouse sensitivity in ubuntu low, will it have any effect on "hitting the edges" wen it comes to games under wine?
[08:28] <seanj`> oh supybot!
[08:28] <gogeta> HiddenInCN: look for irc bot scripts
[08:28] <the_file> jken418: I don't get it, how is it that "debian testing is less stable"?.
[08:28] <HiddenInCN> thanks for all, thank you.
[08:29] <llutz> the_file: visit debian.org and read about stable/testing/unstable
[08:29] <seanj`> twiztid: that's promising. i'm on live cd right now so can't install anything, but i'm a big vlc fan and i think it can steam videos from a url. maybe you could try it?
[08:29] <jken418> the_file: http://www.debian.org/releases/
[08:29] <gogeta> the_file: they dont call something stable untill its rock solid
[08:29] <seanj`> supybot is hilarious
[08:29] <the_file> oww I remember reading that
[08:29] <gogeta> the_file: even thow for the most part it is
[08:29] <onetinsoldier> spanther: hello.. you here?
[08:29] <scottj> Why doesn't gnome-terminal use colors defined in .Xresources like other terms?
[08:30] <SirLinux> I have a HTC touch 3g ( Jade ) and i want to install linux on it
[08:30] <destroth> Why do people still use feisty?
[08:30] <SirLinux> ideeas ?
[08:30] <the_file> so why isn't ubuntu considered **JUST** as stable as debian is?.
[08:30] <twiztid> seanj`: yay!!! u give me hope! lol i juuuust finished installing vlc and im gunna give it a shot!!! :P
[08:30] <seanj`> scottj: I think because gnome prioritizes gnome settings over system/x11 settings
[08:30] <the_file> or better yet, why isn't it?.
[08:30] <gogeta> SirLinux: lol we dont do pohnes yet but andorid os is liux
[08:30] <seanj`> i hope it works twiztid !
[08:30] <jken418> the_file: because it uses more recent versions of packages
[08:30] <spanther> onetinsoldier, no i'm offline :)
[08:30] <llutz> the_file: 6 month release cycles won't allow that
[08:30] <Gumby> the_file: because debian is tested longer.
[08:30] <gogeta> SirLinux: and htc are andoride
[08:30] <onetinsoldier> spanther: lol
[08:30] <onetinsoldier> spanther: i got it
[08:31] <Docteh> the_file: can't be super stable and new at the same time
[08:31] <spanther> nice! :D
[08:31] <spanther> so how did you solve the problem?
[08:31] <Flannel> llutz, the_file, et al: Mind taking this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks
[08:31] <alex____> hi! my frontal usbs don't mount my pendrives... I can mount it manually but gnome doesn't do it
[08:31] <llutz> Flannel: sry
[08:31] <the_file> what packages would these be?. software packages like ubuntu software center?.
[08:31] <Flannel> llutz: No need to be sorry, but you'll have more room to discuss there.
[08:32] <jken418> the_file: all of them. But Flannel is right.
[08:32] <onetinsoldier> spanther: well, this took me about as long as it did the other day. maybe not quite as long. but i was missing one step/file that had me looking for quite a while. otherwise i would have gotten it done in like 10 minutes or less
[08:32] <Gumby> does anyone here have a link to a solution for no audio in flash for 10.04?
[08:32] <onetinsoldier> spanther: if you want this installed, i will have to take you through the steps
[08:32] <gogeta> Gumby: i got audio
[08:32] <spanther> onetinsoldier, ok :) but please in private
[08:33] <Gumby> gogeta: want a cookie  :)
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> spanther: ok
[08:33] <seanj`> Gumby: does audio work in other applications?
[08:33] <twiztid> seanj`: so how would i get vlc to stream from url?
[08:33] <Gumby> seanj`: yup, just not in flash inside a web brwoser
[08:33] <seanj`> twiztid: only guessing but should be in the file menu, open url/location
[08:34] <seanj`> hm Gumby not sure... am also able to play soudn with flash here... silly suggestion but, check the volume control in the flash applet if watching youtube etc
[08:36] <twiztid> seanj`: hrm not seeing it, only see 'open location...' but it doesnt do anything...
[08:36] <Gumby> seanj`: ah... just figured it out.  PCM was at 0... and flash plugin seems to use PCM while KDE/Gnome used Master
[08:37] <seanj`> Gumby: glad you got it figured it out. I always get confused by the wave/pcm controls myself
[08:37] <seanj`> sorry twiztid .. i thought for sure you could stream a url with VLC...
[08:37] <seanj`> i should boot into my regular system and come back
[08:37] <twiztid> seanj`: one las q
[08:38] <Valance> hey guys
[08:38] <twiztid> seanj`: did u mean file menu of vlc? or firefox?
[08:38] <Valance> how is everybody?
[08:38] <kevr> oh, ty btw
[08:38] <seanj`> twiztid: my idea was to locate the url with firefox, then paste it into vlc, just to see if yuo could stream with another application with no problems
[08:39] <twiztid> seanj`: i8 cool thx, see ya in a bit...
[08:39] <MACscr> uh, why wouldnt i have a xorg.conf file?
[08:39] <seanj`> twiztid: that would help isolate flash as the problem or maybe something else, like a network problem
[08:39] <seanj`> ok, be right back
[08:39] <twiztid> seanj`: awesome
[08:39] <_cached> Is chmod u+x to make it executable still?
[08:39] <seanj`> MACscr: new versions of Xorg auto-detect hardware, but you can create and xorg.conf and it will be used
[08:40] <kevr> _cached: u+x just adds executable to the user
[08:40] <kevr> it doesnt change other permissions.
[08:40] <padde> jken418: I found out the reason for the parted_server crash: gparted crashes when it sees the USB stick from which I was trying to install. trying with an external DVD drive now, and gparted works. I'll make a bug report against gparted later.
[08:41] <tripelb> histo: you may or may not have seen my last post above. But I thank you. I've done a lot. I also did: sudo apt-get clean  and sensors... --- doing the sensors-detect - did not tell me about any missing kernel drivers but did say: Found `Winbond W83697HF/F/HG Super IO Sensors'   Success!   (address 0x295, driver `w83627hf')  but then tinyogen@tinyogen-desktop:~$ sensors said :"No sensors found!  Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.  Try sensors-d
[08:41] <tripelb> etect to find out which these are."  -- So I did it again and checked. Perhaps enough for tonight. (Tho if you have more to say, I'll welcome it and put it in my file with the rest.) Peace.
[08:41] <jken418> padde: that is strange. I've not seen that before.
[08:41] <_cached> So then I want to add it to a group and make it executable for the group?
[08:42] <padde> jken418: I find it strange, too. but it's perfectly reproducible.
[08:42] <kevr> _cached: chmod 644
[08:42] <llutz> _cached: all explained in man-pages chmod/chown. chgrp file;chmod g+x file
[08:42] <MACscr> so how do i get my system to generate a xorg.conf file?
[08:42] <jken418> padde: Well, congratulations then. You've found a bug!
[08:42] <moetunes> _cached: or chmod ug +x
[08:43] <llutz> chgrp grp file*
[08:43] <kevr> _cached: 644 are standard executable flags for binaries.
[08:43] <jken418> MACscr: You may not need an xorg.conf
[08:43] <kevr> rwxr-xr-x
[08:43] <padde> jken418: heh, wish I wouldn't find so many of them all the time ;) but well, that's software
[08:43] <jken418> :)
[08:43] <llutz> kevr: thats 755
[08:43] <MACscr> jken418: i dont know what i need besides trying to find a way to get my 3 monitors to work
[08:43] <kevr> llutz: no, it's ont
[08:43] <kevr> not*
[08:43] <kevr> wait
[08:43] <kevr> im mixed up :D
[08:43] <llutz> kevr: man chmod
[08:44] <kevr> ur right
[08:44] <FloodBot4> kevr: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:44] <_cached> \032 = clear?
[08:44] <gogeta> Gumby: what did installin those apps fix your video
[08:44] <sealive> good morning
[08:45] <llutz> _cached: doesn't your teacher want YOU to answer his questions?
[08:45] <sealive> i exidently lost my python2.5 on karmic
[08:45] <sealive> this is needet for synaptics
[08:45] <gogeta> llutz: lol
[08:45] <node357> argh, I don't even have vlc on my system!
[08:46] <Gumby> gogeta: I didnt install anything.  And I wasnt having video issues I was having audio issues
[08:46] <_cached> No, that parts over with.
[08:46] <sealive> i downloadet the packeges from source and installt it via dpkg
[08:46] <_cached> I missed last 4 assignments pertaining to this because my gma died, and I'm behind
[08:46] <_cached> Had to take a D
[08:46] <sealive> but now the connection seams to fail
[08:47] <sealive> everything works
[08:47] <gogeta> Gumby: watching viideos on my eee and irc on my window box heh
[08:47] <sealive> but there are 9 warnings
[08:48] <sealive> dependencies python2.5 ,python2.5-minimal
[08:48] <sealive> python-numpy
[08:48] <sealive> and so on
[08:48] <llutz> sealive: "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude -f install"
[08:49] <sealive> can someone help me how tio fix this
[08:49] <twiztid> ok... so i opened a youtube url from VLC; success in smooth playback, is there ANY way to automate VLC opening up to play online vids?
[08:50] <node357> twiztid: I'll check
[08:50] <SwedeMike> twiztid: googling for <vlc player ubuntu firefox> seems to yield some good hints.
[08:50] <sealive> llutz: this only fixt 3
[08:51] <ed303> join #ubuntu-es
[08:51] <twiztid> SwedeMike: k thx, ill look into some...
[08:51] <sealive>  python-lxml, python-reportlab, python2.5-minimal, python2.5, python-reportlab-accel,python-uniconvertor
[08:51] <sealive> no dependencies
[08:51] <node357> no clue here :(
[08:52] <Valance> Im actually very surprised of how 10.04 turned out
[08:53] <riddler> hey yall
[08:54] <Valance> yo Riddler
[08:54] <riddler> i made a new folder called  .testfolder  on /home/riddler/  but when i get out of it and comeback the .testfolder dissappear?
[08:54] <Valance> normal
[08:54] <riddler> how I get it to show or how to prevent from dissappearing
[08:55] <Valance> what are you using?
[08:55] <riddler> ubuntu 10
[08:55] <rww> riddler: files beginning with . are hidden by default. `ls -a` will list all files, including hidden ones. Ctrl-H in GNOME's file manager will do the same.
[08:55] <Valance> Gnome?
[08:55] <Valance> yes
[08:55] <Valance> follow rww
[08:55] <riddler> ya i got gnome
[08:55] <zen-> test
[08:56] <riddler> ok so if i press Ctrl H it'll show up hidden files what's the key to make it invisible agian
[08:56] <rww> riddler: ctrl-H again
[08:56] <riddler> ty
[08:56] <Valance> :-p
[08:56] <Valance> haha
[08:56] <lint> hi can someone tell me how to make my panels slide in and out when gnome starts?
[08:56] <the_file> whats are the main differences between ubuntu and kubuntu?.
[08:57] <the_file> is it just the looks of it?.
[08:57] <kevr> the_file: gnome vs kde
[08:57] <kevr> different engines too
[08:57] <rww> the_file: Kubuntu uses KDE, and the consequences of that, are the only difference.
[08:59] <riddler> is this normal:  I recently made .gnome folder that was one of the folder that disappear, now I can view it with Ctrl+H now I see .gnome (empty) and .gnome2 (has files)
[09:00] <offermann_> #ubuntu.de
[09:00] <kevr> riddler
[09:00] <offermann_> hmm
[09:00] <kevr> files prefixed with . are hidden so..
[09:00] <yaron-heb> any lucid users?
[09:00] <offermann_> www.ubuntu.de
[09:00] <rww> riddler: yes
[09:00] <moetunes> offermann: try   /j #ubuntu-de
[09:00] <offermann_> hello i want to go in german chat
[09:00] <jabirali> yaron-heb, yup, why?
[09:00] <rww> offermann_: try /join #ubuntu-de
[09:00] <offermann_> ok thx
[09:00] <riddler> by default, is it normal to have two .gnome folders?   .gnome and .gnome2 with .gnome empty folder
[09:00] <rww> riddler: yes
[09:01] <riddler> ah ok
[09:01] <jabirali> riddler, cleaning up among your hidden files? :P
[09:01] <riddler> no i was following instruction to have custom splash screen
[09:01] <fodder70> is it safe to delete the files in /var/cache/apt/archives or do they get auto cleaned
[09:01] <jabirali> Aha, I see
[09:01] <riddler> told me to save image on .gnome folder in /home/yourname/
[09:02] <jabirali> fodder70, it should be safe to delete all .deb's, but let apt do it for you instead:
[09:02] <fodder70> ty :)
[09:02] <jabirali> fodder70, sudo apt-get clean
[09:02] <rww> fodder70: "sudo apt-get clean" is probably a better idea, though either way should work.
[09:02] <yaron-heb> I need someone who hasn't updated his flash version on Lucid to tell me what is the flash version appears on the following site: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[09:03] <basilbear> i am trying to install Roadsend php compiler, and I wrongly installed libCurl 7.20, so the Roadsend configure script complains wanting 7.15.1. I installed libCurl 7.20 from a tar file. How do I remove it now?
[09:03] <yaron-heb> I want to know what's the default flash version
[09:03] <jabirali> yaron-heb, <IP_ADDRESS>.2. I use the most recent one in the repos though
[09:03] <jabirali> yaron-heb, there is no default
[09:03] <yaron-heb> great!
[09:04] <yaron-heb> I mean the installation candidate from the repos
[09:04] <jabirali> yaron-heb, OK, then it's <IP_ADDRESS>.2 :)
[09:04] <jyy> 寻求帮助
[09:05] <moetunes> !cn | jyy
[09:05] <yaron-heb> There has been some work done in order to solve the RTL bug in flash 9 but apparently it wasn't fixed yet
[09:05] <yaron-heb> the bug appears as number 10 in JIRA and I guess there's also bounty for it
[09:05] <yaron-heb> !he | yaron-heb
[09:07] <thehendo>  /join #el-lnx eternallinux
[09:07] <nenne> Anyone know anything about the problem with mysql creating 2 root owned bin logs during apt-get upgrade? this makes mysql fail to start and the upgrade to fail
[09:08] <alienff> Hello. Can anyone tell me how to apply patch to X.org and how to rebuild it? (The patch is: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=33142)
[09:08] <nenne> i can manually fix it and start mysql but apt-get says that there are 2 unconfed mysql packages and running apt-get upgrade again produces the same error
[09:14] <klawd> hi!
[09:14] <node357> hiya klawd
[09:14] <ngocphu> 6+556+
[09:14] <klawd> i have a 1080tv on my ubuntu machine but the monitor preferences only let me choose up to 720
[09:14] <klawd> what can i do?
[09:15] <ngocphu> i don't know
[09:15] <node357> klawd: this might help, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[09:16] <node357> complicated but might work
[09:16] <jyy> 有说汉语的吗
[09:16] <__taco> jyy go to #ubuntu-cn
[09:16] <moetunes> !cn | jyy
[09:17] <speedy2> New search engine www.websearchengine.co.nr thx!
[09:17] <scottj> Is the alternative gnome start menu that opensuse has in ubuntu's repos?
[09:17] <jyy> how to enter ubuntu -cn
[09:17] <rww> jyy: type /join #ubuntu-cn
[09:19] <ngocphu> are you chineess?
[09:19] <athlion> hello all!
[09:21] <node357> hi athlion, bye athlion
[09:23] <__taco> :)
[09:24] <athlion> Could anyone take a guess at what could be behind this extremely strange behavior in 10.04? My guess is that something occasionally breaks (udev, for instance) and take down a whole lot of stuff. In my case, once in a while aplay -l reports no soundcards, the shutdown applet will not shut down the computer (it will drop it in gdm from which I also cannot shut down) and System\administration\users and groups seems to be completely dead as
[09:24] <athlion>  almost nothing works in there... Any guesses?
[09:25] <eLBati> ciao
[09:27] <eLBati> using ubuntu server 10.04, why can't I see ssh in rcconf?
[09:27] <eLBati> it starts at boot though
[09:27] <jrib> !upstart | eLBati
[09:27] <thor1> hallo i have a question, i try to use vnc via ubuntu but i can connect to my home computer, the port in the router is allready open  can u hellp me
[09:28] <eLBati> jrib, thanks
[09:28] <jrib> athlion: yeah, look into devicekit/policykit, don't know where you should start though
[09:29] <athlion> jrib: will do
[09:29] <moetunes> thor1: how are you trying to connect? - vncviewer or...
[09:30] <red> I connect to a SFTP address with nautilus
[09:30] <red> and the right click "Open with Geany" dialog isn't there anymore
[09:31] <red> so I try to pick it as the default open app, but all it does is open up Geany with new empty file
[09:31] <thor1> i try to connect with gtk vncviewer, also tried vinagre
[09:31] <red> if I pick gedit, it works as expected
[09:32] <moetunes> thor1: you have to name the display - e.g. <IP_ADDRESS>:1
[09:32] <Sandking> hi
[09:32] <Sephis> moin
[09:32] <Sandking> is there any way i could run os x app under ubuntu like i can do with windows and wine?
[09:33] <thor1> i entered ip addres or dyndns, and i entered the port number
[09:33] <spanther> nope doesn't work xD
[09:34] <moetunes> thor1: then are you sure the server is started on the other comp?
[09:35] <thor1> well it should have started at startup today in the morning. from at home it worked great but at home i don use ubuntu
[09:37] <moetunes> thor1: I only use vnc on the lan here at home  - that's all I can think off
[09:37] <mosaic> 没有中文么?
[09:38] <thor1> ok you tolld me about naming the display, do you mean the port number or is it a step for itś selve
[09:39] <moetunes> thor1: the display the vncserver uses would be :1 mostly
[09:39] <moetunes> !cn | mosaic
[09:40] <thor1> so do i have to enter :1 after the port or before?  like <IP_ADDRESS>:5900:1 ???
[09:40] <VirusTB> how do i get Flash on a 64 bit systm:???????
[09:40] <MarcoPau> (firefox-bin:2129): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead my xsession-errors file is flooded with these lines. do you have any hint?
[09:40] <moetunes> thor1: like   <IP_ADDRESS>:5900:1
[09:41] <thor1> ok i try
[09:41] <moetunes> thor1: I thought it would be 5901
[09:41] <moetunes> not 5900
[09:41] <MACscr_lappy> how do i exit x server so i can just be at console?
[09:41] <thor1> i configured it with 5900
[09:42] <moetunes> MACscr_lappy: ctrl+alt+f2 login then   pkill X
[09:42] <moetunes> thor1: k
[09:43] <Biseksual> hello is there a lightweight version of ubuntu ? my laptop seems to run it very slow
[09:43] <sephis> Biseksual, Xubuntu is Ubuntu without gnome
[09:44] <Biseksual> need something more minimal
[09:44] <Biseksual> basically this laptop is getting old
[09:44] <lint> has anyone come up with a solution for cursor theming in 10.04?
[09:44] <moetunes> Biseksual: there is diff linuxs like crunchbang dsl etc
[09:45] <jatt> hello
[09:45] <Biseksual> i've tried dsl...that's too minimal
[09:45] <thor1> Biseksual    what about the ubuntu notebook remix??
[09:45] <jatt> I'm using EVOLUTION.
[09:45] <jatt> A colleague sent me an email (he uses Microsoft outlook). The mail says "check the red marked code".
[09:45] <Satish> Hello all
[09:45] <jatt> But EVOLUTION doesn't show any red marked text
[09:45] <VirusTB> how do i get Flash on a 64 bit systm:???????
[09:45] <jatt> how do I fix this.
[09:46] <moetunes> !flash64
[09:46] <Satish> how to install wine applications for all users ?
[09:46] <Biseksual> thor1: oh ?
[09:46] <thor1> just a momet
[09:46] <jatt> (I think this is one of the reasons that hinder the adoption of GNU/Linux in the desktop (interoperability)).
[09:46] <Biseksual> hmmm i wish i had one of these netbooks where you can use internet anywhere
[09:46] <iflema> Biseksual http://lubuntu.net/
[09:46] <Biseksual> imagine running BT4 on that....walking around
[09:47] <Satish> does anyone know the answer ?
[09:47] <moetunes> Satish: someone in #winehq might know
[09:47] <Biseksual> lubuntu is interesting thanks
[09:48] <Biseksual> sometimes the urge to just get a Mac is too much
[09:48] <Satish> moetunes, ok....I came here cause I want to do this on ubuntu only
[09:48] <thor1> Biseksual   read this link its about notebook remix ^^ http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Ubuntu_Netbook_Edition?redirect=no
[09:48] <hetii> hi
[09:49] <moetunes> Satish: I don't do wine and if noone else knows it might be the best bet :]
[09:49] <billybigrigger> where does fstab log to?
[09:49] <hetii> Q: i try install mysql-workbench-oss-5.2.21-1ubu1004-i386 but i got dependency fails : he required libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.29.3)
[09:50] <hetii> formwhere i can get libatk  1.29.3 ?
[09:50] <Biseksual> thor1: i can't read german
[09:50] <Biseksual> yeah but mine is not a netbook
[09:50] <thor1> Biseksual    oh iḿ sorry
[09:50] <Biseksual> its just 4 year old laptop
[09:51] <Merwin> Does somebody know how I could -temporaly, and programaticcaly, the language doesn't matter- desactive the auto mount of USB drives?
[09:52] <jrib> Merwin: do you want a "nice" way or you don't care?
[09:52] <moetunes> Biseksual: I run a minimal ubuntu with xfce on a 2001 pent3 lappy
[09:52] <azareth> hi all
[09:52] <azareth> does anyone here use persistent live usb?
[09:53] <Guest38544> sorry for interrupting, anyone knows what to do with pidgin if the msn protocol says: "no address associated with hostname" :s
[09:53] <Biseksual> moetunes: haha
[09:53] <Biseksual> moetunes: it runs ?
[09:53] <MACscr_lappy> i cant seem to kill x, it keeps coming back
[09:53] <moetunes> Biseksual: goes great
[09:53] <moetunes> !minimal
[09:54] <Biseksual> thanks
[09:55] <Merwin> jrib: I would like the nice way, but I'll take everything
[09:55] <Biseksual> which one do i get
[09:55] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: why do you want to?
[09:55] <MACscr_lappy> i was told i needed to kill the x server before i could create a xorg.conf
[09:55] <Biseksual> moetunes: so how dumbed down are the mini.iso
[09:55] <jrib> Merwin: I think you can just kill gvfs-*-volume-monitor.  If you want a nice way, look into how to configure that I guess :)
[09:56] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: again, why do you want to create a xorg.conf?
[09:56] <bicyclerepairman> I've just booted up 10.04, you know the latest LTS, but when X starts up it gets the resolution wrong and becomes unusable (I have some weird hardware).
[09:56] <thor1> so iḿ shure the server is running  but it still does not work (vnc)
[09:56] <bicyclerepairman> is there a way to disable it?
[09:56] <jrib> bicyclerepairman: what video card do you have?
[09:56] <bicyclerepairman> it's the ATI Radeon M6.
[09:56] <moetunes> Biseksual: it is a cli environment that you can add X and apps you want - so it can be very light or heavy - your choice
[09:56] <Biseksual> moetunes: omg perfect !
[09:56] <jrib> bicyclerepairman: do you have any drivers offered to you in System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers?
[09:56] <Biseksual> moetunes: you've read my mind
[09:56] <Biseksual> thanks !
[09:57] <bicyclerepairman> there are perfectly usable drivers, but my LCD lies about which resolutions it's capable of.
[09:57] <Biseksual> what about drivers, networking
[09:57] <MACscr_lappy> jrib: im trying to get my third monitor to work. Whats funny is that when i ran ctrl + alt + f2, it took me to console on the 3rd monitor and kept the x sessions on the first two. so obviously the integrated board is being seen and used by ubuntu, just maybe not the X server
[09:57] <Biseksual> i just have cli
[09:57] <Biseksual> so i need to install everything
[09:57] <Biseksual> i love it
[09:57] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: what card?
[09:57] <bicyclerepairman> which means it chooses a resolution that's higher than my screen actually can handle...
[09:57] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all, I have used Clonezilla to take an image. That image has been stored in the /home folder instead of my username home folder. I need to copy it across to a larger storage drive in the same box but permission is denied, can anyone tell me the syntax to allow me to give permission to copy from /home/partimag to /media/disk-1 please
[09:57] <jrib> !fixres | bicyclerepairman
[09:57] <Merwin> Thanks jrib
[09:57] <moetunes> Biseksual: drivers come with the kernel and i just use a static ip address in the interface file and all is good
[09:58] <Biseksual> http://lifehacker.com/5252073/install-a-minimal-ubuntu-desktop
[09:58] <MACscr_lappy> radeon 3200 and radeon 4850
[09:58] <Chase-> Guest38544: No offense to the IRC, but you get better Ubuntu support on the forum by a long shot.
[09:58] <Biseksual> moetunes: i've been looking for something like this for a long time
[09:58] <moetunes> Biseksual: follow that
[09:58] <DryGrain> Jimi_Neutral, 'sudo'
[09:58] <Biseksual> moetunes: perhaps for over 3 years
[09:58] <Biseksual> moetunes: i hate gui, i just want a dark screen, with a cursor
[09:58] <Biseksual> of course im joking but
[09:59] <Biseksual> i just like the aesthetic feel
[09:59] <moetunes> heh
[09:59] <Biseksual> knock down memory usage by 75% ???? !
[09:59] <VirusTB> how do i get Flash on a 64 bit systm:???????
[09:59] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: does ati have its own tool to configure monitors?  Does the default tool in gnome's menu not work?  In any case, you can create a /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you really want to without turning off X.  Just restart X when you are done.
[09:59] <MACscr_lappy> jrib: sorry, forgot to reference you. I have radeon 3200 and radeon 4850
[09:59] <VirusTB> the .deb file is a 32 bt fro adobe :S
[09:59] <vyoman> eclipse crashes on startup nothing in the log files, nothing has changed on the machine other than the proposed updates, are the other Java developers with this problem?
[09:59] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, im trying to drag and drop
[10:00] <jrib> !flash | VirusTB
[10:00] <moetunes> Biseksual: 50mb mem used just after booting on the lappy
[10:00] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, so i need to give permissions and then use the gui again
[10:00] <DryGrain> Jimi_Neutral, open a terminal
[10:01] <DryGrain> Jimi_Neutral, sudo cp /home/file /media/disk/
[10:01] <moetunes> jrib: VirusTB wanted 64bit flash
[10:01] <jrib> moetunes: I saw
[10:01] <moetunes> k
[10:01] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, ok ty
[10:01] <Mokee269> VirusTB omg.. when  Installed i did that and now i forgot.. the fact is .. i need to reinstall
[10:02] <Mokee269> and each module, driver, program i do .set up i add to a script file and so i cremembr all the little things linux always has ;p
[10:02] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, ah i need to move not copy as the main disk is not very big
[10:02] <VirusTB> jrib,  for 64bit system :S
[10:02] <Mokee269> VirusTB, hmm I installed
[10:02] <DryGrain> okay
[10:02] <VirusTB> moetunes,  yes for a 64 bit system :(
[10:02] <DryGrain> Jimi_Neutral, sudo mv /home/file /media/disk/
[10:02] <DryGrain> :)
[10:02] <jrib> VirusTB: yes, did you read the link ubottu gave you...?
[10:02] <Mokee269> stop going :( it aint that crap.. it will work fine VirusTB
[10:03] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, ty :O)
[10:03] <moetunes> flash64 | VirusTB
[10:03] <moetunes> !flash64 | VirusTB
[10:03] <bicyclerepairman> hmm, seems the ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't work,
[10:03] <VirusTB> jrib,  yes i cvant get "adobe-flashplugin" installed with "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[10:03] <bicyclerepairman> nor can I get to a console by ctrl+alt+F1
[10:03] <Peddy> What is the difference between "notification area" and "indicator applet" in Lucid? some icons (volume, bluetooth) are displayed twice. Is there a way to fix this?
[10:03] <jrib> VirusTB: is that what the wiki says to do?
[10:03] <bicyclerepairman> ont he 10.04 LiveCD
[10:03] <VirusTB> moetunes,  :D that link looks better
[10:04] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, failed to preserve ownership
[10:04] <onetinsoldier> bicyclerepairman: you should be able to get to a virtual console with ctrl+alt+f1, but maybe not on livecd
[10:04] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, operation not permitted
[10:04] <jrib> VirusTB: the first page is better really...
[10:05] <DryGrain> did you 'sudo'?
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, some of the contents did not copy
[10:05] <Linuxrevolution> hi all
[10:05] <Jimi_Neutral> DryGrain, yeah i did
[10:05] <bicyclerepairman> so is there a way to disable X when  I boot it?
[10:05] <Linuxrevolution> please tell me whats this http://pastebin.ws/e09yme
[10:05] <coz_> #ubuntu-dev
[10:05] <DryGrain> hrm
[10:05] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: so /media/disk is a non-unix filesystem like ntfs?
[10:05] <coz_> darn
[10:06] <DryGrain> ah
[10:06] <DryGrain> FAT is the middle ground
[10:06] <VirusTB> jrib, moetunes  ok forgot to install restricted extrea's
[10:07] <moetunes> heh
[10:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i cant actually see
[10:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, oh FAT32
[10:07]  * cori__AWAY is away: off
[10:07] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: so unix-permissions, max 4GB filesize
[10:07] <jrib> !away > cori__AWAY
[10:07] <llutz> no unix-permissions*
[10:07] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, its 321.9gb
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> lluts231.9 GB sorry
[10:08] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: split it in 4GB-slices
[10:08] <Linuxrevolution> any idea?
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, whys that?
[10:08] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i thought ubuntu recognised up to 250GB
[10:08] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: fat32/vfat has a filsize-maximum of 4GB
[10:08] <Linuxrevolution> http://pastebin.ws/e09yme
[10:08] <DryGrain> or reformat your external hd
[10:08] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: filesize, not partition
[10:08] <DryGrain> with a different fs
[10:09] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, doh, i will fomat it, there is nothing on it yet....what shall I format it to?
[10:09] <DryGrain> the fat32 filesystem on /media/disk
[10:09] <coz_> hey guys... for a few years now  ubuntu has had a bug that when bootint always drops to busy box with scsi drives and the only solution ...so far is a rediculous rootdelay-= 40   any other suggestions?
[10:09] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: unix-fs or ntfs if you need windows to read/write it
[10:09] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ok ty brb
[10:09] <DryGrain> ext4?
[10:10] <Lantizia> Does anyone know where I can find a repository (or the .deb files) for a 64-bit build of Thunderbird 3?  (and no I don't mean Shredder, something with the Thunderbird name/logo please) ?
[10:10] <d3vil____> hi everybody..
[10:10] <Lantizia> Kind of like the firefox-stable-ppa
[10:10] <d3vil____>  goodmorning..
[10:10] <Linuxrevolution> guys! please look at this error: http://pastebin.ws/e09yme
[10:11] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: use ubuntu tweak
[10:11] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ntfs is greyed out
[10:11] <Lantizia> Linuxrevolution, I already do - what about it?
[10:12] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: you can check TB rep in ubuntu tweak
[10:12] <Lantizia> Linuxrevolution, and which rep is that? have a link?
[10:13] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: install ntfsprogs   or better create fs from windows
[10:13] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, its not an external
[10:13] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, its in the box
[10:13] <VirusTB> Blehh i have no audio on my Ubuntu machine :(
[10:13] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: if you download TB by ubuntu tweak
[10:13] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: install ntfsprogs  then
[10:14] <Lantizia> Linuxrevolution, are you stuck in a loop or something?
[10:14] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: it will install the latest version and will update it (always)
[10:14] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: do you have ubuntu tweak installed?
[10:14] <Lantizia> Linuxrevolution, ubuntu tweak will have to enable a repo somewhere, so which one?
[10:14] <FACED> Hey were TPB's servers in Germany taken or just threatened to be prosecuted if they were connected?
[10:15] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: in application center, email . just install TB
[10:15] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ok installed, what do i do with it
[10:15] <Lantizia> Linuxrevolution, look - you have no answers... or you'd have told me by now
[10:15] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: it should contain mkfs.ntfs to "format" your drive
[10:16] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, lost now
[10:16] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: :-/ u dont have to add a rep for TB in source!!!
[10:16] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: when u install it it will be update why do u want a repo for TB???
[10:16] <phu> hi
[10:17] <phu> i have some problem with hard disk
[10:17] <slide> Is there any way to make it so ubuntu will know the computer host names from samba and use them for their ips? so when sshing to my server i can use its samba name instead of its ip?
[10:18] <phu> i can't use second hard disk in ubuntu
[10:18] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: there is a DAILY repo for mozilla but you have to update youe system everyday!!
[10:18] <moetunes> slide: add them in /etc/hosts
[10:18] <Linuxrevolution> Lantizia: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa here
[10:19] <VirusTB> jrib, moetunes  ok youtube works now :P.. but it plays like a madman! (plays super fast in Fastfoward!)
[10:19] <slide> moetunes, but that wont work is another computer comes online, i think im looking for WINS, or WINBIND, not sure yet
[10:19] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so what do i do now, any idea?
[10:19] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: read "man mkfs.ntfs"
[10:20] <johnguk> anybody know how to get Thunderbird 3 to recognise my already existing profile folder in Ubuntu 10.04?
[10:20] <moetunes> slide: heh I use static ips on the lan here so that sort of thing is easier
[10:21] <johnguk> I've used the profile manager but it still keeps asking me to create a new one
[10:22] <lapion> hello
[10:23] <lapion> At a certain moment during the ubuntu install procedure a skip button appears, however nowhere does the installer inform as to what the button would skip
[10:23] <wildbat> anyone have a idea how to get stumpwn in 10.04?
[10:24] <hidder>  hellokity
[10:24] <enriq> hello. I have a machine here ubuntu 10.04 (fresh install) with 8Gb of ram. The resources indicate 6+Gb of ram in use, and 1.8Gb swap in use, however there is no reason for this to be so (other machines with the same load use much less memory). Moreover it I add the processes by memory it does not take that much memory. Something is going on that I don't understand... any clue?
[10:24] <lapion> Maybe it would be handy to add some text to the skip button besides skip
[10:24] <hidder>  hellokity haha
[10:24] <papul> hi. i want to know if i could apt-get and install in my home dir without having root priviledges
[10:24] <jrib> papul: no
[10:24] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, well thats odd, i just deleted the partitions, made it into two fat32 partitions again then right clicked and the ntfs option is there now....odd
[10:25] <Str82DHeaD> Hi all ! I have a RAID5 server and during booting it says "cannot find "/dev/mapper/raid_name". So it can't boot /  ... Somebody said it was because my kernel is compiled without default raid support.
[10:25] <Str82DHeaD> How do I fix that?
[10:25] <papul> jrib: but i will be installing it in my home dir? so i have write access
[10:25] <Str82DHeaD> in live CD i can see all 3 disks
[10:25] <jrib> papul: what is "it" in your sentence?
[10:25] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: gparted or what are you using? it needed ntfsprogs
[10:26] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, rebuild the boot-image
[10:26] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, so basically i should have just restarted gparted after installing ntfsprogs lol
[10:26] <papul> jrib: packages
[10:26] <Str82DHeaD> how to do that when I can't even boot into OS
[10:26] <Peddy> I pressed alt+f2 and typed "free the fish" and a fish appeared :( how do I get rid of this fish!?
[10:26] <Str82DHeaD> lapion,
[10:26] <hyatt> hi is anybody else using ubuntu on a macbook pro? my problem is i added the mactel repositories and installed the custom modules for the touchpad. nevertheless when i place my thumb on the lower part of the touchpad and try to move the pointer with my other fingers, it still recognizes this as "2 fingers on touchpad -> scroll" any1 knows how to fix that? another problem is that if i touch the pad with my palm then it simulates a click, s
[10:26] <hyatt> like the palm detection doesn't work, any pointers? thx
[10:26] <jrib> papul: apt isn't meant for installing to /home and the location it installs to isn't easily changed
[10:26] <Str82DHeaD> lapion,  how to do that when I can't even boot into OS
[10:26] <Peddy> I tried clicking on the fish and he swims away but reappears, linux is too powerful
[10:27] <papul> jrib: ok seems like compiling with prefix is my only option then
[10:27] <jrib> papul: why can't you use apt the normal way? And what are you installing?
[10:28] <papul> jrib: i have a remote shell and want to install a package in my home dir
[10:28] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, boot in rescue mode..
[10:28] <nameless`> hi
[10:28] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, from the dvd
[10:28] <jrib> papul: yeah, just build it then
[10:28] <nameless`> does anyone knows what is the character ^@ and ^M ?
[10:28] <nameless`> i think ^M is return but i have no idea about ^@
[10:29] <jrib> nameless`: context?
[10:29] <lapion> ^M is Enter
[10:29] <papul> jrib: ok thanks for the help :)
[10:29] <ct529> hi everybody .... I have the following error on some compilation GLX extension missing on server
[10:29] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, any chance to loose any data?
[10:29] <nameless`> jrib very weird issues...
[10:29] <ct529> I am using lucid 1004 64 bit with nvidia quadro 1600 M
[10:29] <ct529> using the nvidia-current driver
[10:29] <ct529> what is supposed to provide the glx header?
[10:30] <arand> Peddy: Nothing to do, once the fish is free you have to reinstall :þ  Nah, a simple "killall gnome-panel" (it should respawn) might do it?
[10:30] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, as long as you don't start installing
[10:30] <melrokz> Hi. In Lucid, I'll have to double-click twice to open an NTFS drive, that I automounted using /etc/fstab. Double-clicking it once should open it, right?
[10:30] <lapion> Str82DHeaD,  that's why it's called rescue
[10:31] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, just rebuilding to defaults ?
[10:31] <lapion> melrokz, depends on what options you set in fstab
[10:31] <ct529> if I run glxinfo I get a segmentation fault with Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:31] <nameless`> jrib using ubuntu 9.10, i made a C program that printf some text, something like printf("hello\n"); i compiled it and it worked well, but when i redirected the flow to a file like " ./program > file.log" the file was empty ! i tried replacing the printf by a write(1, "hello\n", 7) and it worked, but now i have each line beginning with ^@ and ending with ^M, when i cat this file it's ok, but if i open with gedit it's only weird cha
[10:31] <nameless`> racter
[10:31] <melrokz> defaults 0 0
[10:31] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, you have to rebuild the initramfs only
[10:31] <squarrel> can anyone tell me how to set firestarter to accept incoming connections via port 80?
[10:32] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, and make sure md/raid drivers are loaded
[10:32] <jrib> squarrel: did you tell it not to?
[10:32] <melrokz> and the ntfs-3g driver.
[10:32] <squarrel> jrib I did not tell it anything. I juts started it.
[10:33] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, taking an awful long time to move it over....the HDD is on though.
[10:33] <jrib> squarrel: ah, does it come with some default rules then?
[10:33] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, sorry for the noob question, how do I rebuild only initramfs ?
[10:33] <squarrel> jrib it has some settings, yes
[10:34] <lapion> just remember that ntfs-3g userspace driver is really SLOW, whenever possible try using kernelspace ntfs driver
[10:34] <jrib> squarrel: I see.  Well explore the gui, it should be fairly straightforward.  By default no rules are set in the firewall, but I guess firestarter creates some
[10:35] <squarrel> jrib I've been studying it for a while. the only thing I see could make a difference is to
[10:35] <melrokz> oh! what's the other differences? Just typing ntfs instead of ntfs-3g will do ?
[10:35] <squarrel> change the "Do not log entry for following:"
[10:36] <squarrel> and than "Hosts:" and "Ports"
[10:36] <phu> I have a problem with my second hard disk. I can use it in windows, but not in linux.
[10:36] <jrib> squarrel: don't you want to "add a rule"?
[10:36] <squarrel> yes, but don't know how
[10:36] <jrib> squarrel: http://firestarter.sourceforge.net/manual/rules.php seems like there's a "Rules" menu
[10:37] <MACscr_lappy> how do i autogenerate an xorg.conf? I was told i just needed to run: Xorg -configure. But thats not getting me anywhere
[10:37] <boromide> Could someone help me with my laptops install of lucid please? As far as I can tell everything is fine untill "checking battery state" or after since gdm and dbus won't start.
[10:37] <lapion> melrokz, most probably..
[10:38] <johnguk> does anyone know how to get thunderbird 3 to recognise my existing profile?
[10:38] <boromide> I also have the error: ureadahead-other main process (758) terminated with status 4
[10:38] <boromide> Same again for 763
[10:39] <squarrel> jrib found, it's ok now, thanks
[10:39] <boromide> Dbus pre-start process (764) terminated with status 1
[10:40] <pandabbl> tasksel: aptitude failed (100)
[10:40] <pandabbl> tasksel isn't working
[10:40] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, thanks for navigation
[10:40] <_-XPERT-_> Hi any route add experts here?
[10:40] <Str82DHeaD> i'll continue on my own
[10:40] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, thanks a lot
[10:40] <lapion> melrokz, I have sometime ago stopped using  ntfs in favor of ext4fs.. main reason: speed, secondary reason, fsck for ntfs can get so complicated that not even windows chkdsk can fix ntfs, and I have had to run ntfs-fsck multiple times before chkdsk would even do anything,.. I had to dump all data and redownload
[10:41] <langtung> I have a problem with my second hard disk. I can use it in windows, but not in linux.
[10:41] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, laze as I am I usually simply reinstall the linux-image
[10:41] <_-XPERT-_> Langtung wich fs?
[10:41] <Rmorgan> are there any ubuntu learning materials?
[10:42] <_-XPERT-_> No Route Add knollege here
[10:42] <langtung> fs? I do't understand
[10:42] <_-XPERT-_> File System
[10:42] <Rmorgan> file system...
[10:42] <jrib> Rmorgan: help.ubuntu.com and the manual
[10:42] <jrib> !manual | Rmorgan
[10:42] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, and there's no danger of destroying data?
[10:42] <MACscr_lappy> how do i kill X without it being restarted again?
[10:43] <llutz> _-XPERT-_: help to be found in "man route", "man ip"
[10:43] <langtung> I use ubuntu 10.04
[10:43] <jrib> MACscr_lappy: didn't we just have this conversation? :P
[10:43] <_-XPERT-_> crtl + alt + backspace
[10:43] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, at what step are youi afraid you would lose data ?
[10:43] <pandabbl> ^that restarts x
[10:43] <boromide> I think that was disabled in lucid xpert
[10:43] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: i know how to set route add but get No Such Process
[10:43] <Str82DHeaD> rebuilding the kernel
[10:43] <boromide> service gdm stop
[10:43] <basilbear> I've installed libCurl 7.20 from a tar download - how do I remove it, as it doesn't appear in my package manager?
[10:43] <Str82DHeaD> lapion,  rebuilding the kernel
[10:44] <pandabbl> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:44] <langtung> -xpert-: how to show file system
[10:44] <pandabbl> i've done everything to my knowledhe
[10:44] <_-XPERT-_> cfdisk /dev/sd?
[10:44] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, it's called reinstalling the kernel, and the initrd which is a ramdisk that is loaded before the system get's started up gets rebuild..
[10:44] <pandabbl> how come tasksel gives me this error when i try and install lamp?
[10:44] <_-XPERT-_>  where SD is your disk number
[10:45] <_-XPERT-_> But under windows you can see if it is Fat or NTFS
[10:45] <_-XPERT-_> sorry sd? where ? is 1 or 2 or so
[10:45] <melrokz> How to make an fstab entry for my ntfs partition /dev/sdb2?
[10:45] <langtung> it show  FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[10:45] <langtung> my second hard disk is ntfs
[10:45] <llutz> _-XPERT-_: try using "ip route ..." these days. it also gives clearer errors when failing
[10:46] <g3t1> Can anyone help me with empathy 2.30.1? Cant get A/V to work.
[10:46] <moetunes> !ntfs | melrokz
[10:46] <_-XPERT-_> Do you have cifs support?
[10:46] <coz_> g3t1,  I cant help  because I have never played with empathy... I hope someone here  has experience with it
[10:46] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: Ok will try now
[10:46] <langtung> what does cifs mean
[10:47] <icedwater> Anyone has experience with mini.iso? I put X on it, after installing the server kernel. But now calling xclock or seamonkey keeps X so busy that I have to restart the computer. Can't even switch consoles..
[10:47] <llutz> langtung: cifs (former smbfs) is a windows-network protocoll used for shares
[10:47] <g3t1> coz_: What do you use for A/V?
[10:47] <lapion> !cifs | langtung
[10:48] <coz_> g3t1,  well I am really bad with abbreviations :)  A/V?
[10:48] <vic20gmr[karmic]> audio/visual?
[10:48] <coz_> g3t1, I also just woke up lol
[10:48] <moetunes> icedwater: how did you put X on it? - install the server and a window manager?
[10:48] <g3t1> coz_: audio/video....webcam and mic  =)
[10:49] <langtung> it show bash: !cifs: event not found
[10:49] <vic20gmr[karmic]> heh
[10:49] <coz_> g3t1,   ah   duh I should have known that :)  I dont... I didnt even test my webcam onlucid since it was beta   hope that wasnt screwed up :)
[10:49] <icedwater> Nope, just xserver-xorg, then xorg once I realised the first package didn't have a server... then I put one command to start xterm in the background in my .X11rc.
[10:49] <Str82DHeaD> lapion, thanks dude!
[10:49] <MACscr_lappy> is there an easy way to update my kernel to 2.6.34?
[10:49] <viliny__> MacGyverNL_: yes
[10:50] <moetunes> icedwater: you need a window manger
[10:50] <moetunes> s/manger/manager
[10:50] <viliny__> MACscr_lappy: * yes
[10:50] <icedwater> Hmm.
[10:50] <_-XPERT-_> langtung: do "dmesg | grep sd" look for the disk and then do cfdisk /dev/disk where disk is the one you need
[10:50] <MACscr_lappy> viliny__: i guess i was more looking for tips on that =P
[10:50] <icedwater> OK, let me try... twm or something.
[10:50] <icedwater> Can't you start xclock without a window manager?
[10:50] <arand> langtung: The !factoid|nick is simply a thing to trigger bot information in the channel here.
[10:51] <g3t1> coz_: Ok  =) I can get my webcam to work in skype but not my mic. But my mic works when I use "audiorecording"
[10:51] <moetunes> icedwater: if you start them from terminal you should see why they are having issues
[10:51] <g3t1> coz_: And in empathy nothing works.
[10:52] <Take0n> where can I find grub's menu.lst file to edit it?
[10:52] <coz_> g3t1,  mm  well since it works with other applications then I would guess it is empathy yes?
[10:52] <alket> g3t1 it sounds crazy but it didn't work for me too, but when i changed the port from front to back it worket
[10:52] <johnguk> never mind I fixed it
[10:52] <alket> g3t1 i hope you understood
[10:52] <arand> Take0n: If you have grub2, it's /etc/default/grub nowadays
[10:52] <langtung> my second disk'status is sda: unknown partition table
[10:53] <g3t1> alket: please explain.
[10:53] <Take0n> arand, I am not sure.. I have lucid though
[10:53] <icedwater> moetunes: I tried that, it covered the terminal.
[10:53] <g3t1> coz_: yeah...guess so. Its anoying that they wont work at the same time.
[10:53] <icedwater> moetunes: I'm going to see if I can toss it into another corner... be back soon.
[10:54] <alket> g3ti where did you plug your mic cable ?
[10:54] <_-XPERT-_> langtung: do you have any info on the disk like a partition and so on?
[10:54] <coz_> g3t1,  no doubt  and I really dont use any other application  like pidgin either so I really cant offer any troubleshooting for this
[10:54] <alket> g3t1 in front or back of your pc ?
[10:54] <tripelb> WOW. make openoffice start fast - http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/28209/How_to_make_OpenOffice_run_faster_in_Ubuntu
[10:55] <icedwater> Hmm, odd. It seems to be behaving now.
[10:55] <arand> Take0n: Then you do (grub2 was introduced in 9.10, and it's harder to edit things directly, though http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html has a reasonable guide, along with the ubuntu wiki for grub2).
[10:55] <g3t1> alket: I use built in webcam and mic.
[10:55] <icedwater> I installed aewm, but it shouldn't start until I restart X, or does it already start after installation?
[10:55] <alket> g3t1, if you use pidgin you can install sudo apt-get install pidgin
[10:55] <_-XPERT-_> langtung: Under windows wich file system is it?
[10:55] <Take0n> thank you arand
[10:55] <alket> g3t1 sorry pidgin-skype
[10:55] <langtung> ntfs
[10:55] <_-XPERT-_> langtung: If it is NTFS then follow ibnstructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[10:56] <AhmedBH> Hi, Anyone knows how do i close evolution mail from windows list from the panel and gets notification of a new incoming mail ?
[10:56] <karthik_> while starting the vmware  .. i m getting error unable to load /dev/vmmon   .. any ideas ???
[10:56] <dtamborelli> hi, does gnome terminal load .profile files?
[10:56] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: ip route add also gives me "No Such Process"
[10:56] <g3t1> alket: I have skype and my webcam works fine with skype but not my mic.
[10:57] <llutz> _-XPERT-_: then check the IPs you used
[10:57] <julikoko> hi peeps
[10:57] <alket> g3t1 do you use PIDGIN for MSN or Google or Yahoo ?
[10:58] <AhmedBH> llutz: Hi, Do you knows how do i close evolution mail from windows list from the panel and gets notification of a new incoming mail ?
[10:58] <julikoko> heard weve got later versions of Ubuntu
[10:58] <julikoko> apart from karmic?
[10:58] <desktop-newbie>  i installed Lucid  on a Compaq 6820s laptop and after the install the screen flickers constantly on both graphical and console mode. the flickering makes the screen almost unreadable! can anyone help me?
[10:58] <AhmedBH> julikoko: Peeps ? haha i am not WWE's Christain
[10:58] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: Ì use <IP_ADDRESS> as default gateway and want to add a route to <IP_ADDRESS> thru <IP_ADDRESS> wich can be reached thru <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:58] <AhmedBH> 's peep
[10:58] <karrot> can anyone tell me why i try to sshfs the mount i get has these permissions
[10:58] <karrot> d????????? ? ?    ?        ?                ? TEST
[10:58] <alket> g3t1 if you use pidgin for MSN ... you can use for skype too just by installing from terminal: sudo apt-get install pidgin-skype
[10:58] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: hi
[10:58] <_-XPERT-_> langtung: And does this help?
[10:58] <rumpsy> got a problem
[10:59] <langtung> I am doing it
[11:00] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: Somehow i cant add a route wich uses a different gateway
[11:01] <maxagaz> php doesn't work anymore on my computer, can someone help me to debug ?
[11:01] <ribot> hey
[11:01] <jrib> maxagaz: define "doesn't work"
[11:01] <ribot> my computer went down, and now i cant reach it anymore..i can ping it, but it doesnt respond to ssh
[11:01] <rumpsy> i tired to install flashplugin from adobe webite, its a .deb package it went wrong, and my apt-get is not working
[11:01] <rumpsy> even i tried apt-get -g install
[11:01] <rumpsy> even i tried apt-get -f install
[11:02] <rumpsy> Now i can't able to install any package
[11:02] <maxagaz> jrib, all what's between <?php echo "foo"; ?> is not shown in my browser
[11:02] <jrib> !lamp > maxagaz
[11:02] <jrib> maxagaz: follow the troubleshooting steps there first
[11:02] <g3t1> alket: ok, nice
[11:03] <_-XPERT-_> llutz: Going for lunch back in 30 or so thnx
[11:03] <MACscr_lappy> is KMS enabled by default with ubuntu 10.4? Heck, i dont even know how to check
[11:03] <g3t1> alkit: Will webcam work with pidgin/skype?
[11:04] <arand> MACscr_lappy: You can get mainline build of kernel for ubuntu...
[11:04] <arand> !mainline | MACscr_lappy
[11:04] <g3t1> alket: Will webcam work with pidgin/skype?
[11:04] <rumpsy> !broken
[11:05] <arand> MACscr_lappy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[11:05] <langtung> -XPERT-: it doesn't work
[11:05] <rumpsy> arand: did you see my problem
[11:05] <Luija1006> hello people I need help: After upgrading with Kpackage kit now I cannot print, it tosses and error when printing: "Error while printing", no details are shown, solution?
[11:06] <overrider_> Hossa, using Ubuntu 10.04 i cannot find a /boot/grub/menu.lst, id like to change my boot settings to be more verbose. Am i looking in the wrong place? Thanks
[11:06] <MACscr_lappy> wth, google isnt working for me right now
[11:06] <arand> rumpsy: Hmm, no, think you might have spoken to another person?
[11:06] <julikoko> AhmedBH: i dont understand you
[11:07] <rumpsy> arand: i asked generaly
[11:07] <rumpsy> arand: what can i do now, that was my problem
[11:07] <rumpsy> arand: i tried to install flashplugin.deb directly and it made some problem
[11:08] <rumpsy> arand: now i can't to install any of the single package
[11:08] <s3r3n1t7> rumpsy, "some problem" isn't specific.
[11:08] <arand> rumpsy: Hmm, it would be helpful if you posted the errors given in a pastebin and link it here, people are more likely to figure things out if there are some indicative error messages
[11:09] <rumpsy> arand: okay, i paste bin it
[11:09] <wildbat> anyone have a idea how to get stumpwn work in 10.04??
[11:11] <arand> !doesntwork | wildbat
[11:15] <wildbat> arand, http://paste.ubuntu.com/435445/
[11:16] <alket> how can I edit PDF file ? Sure not with OpenOffice
[11:16] <erUSUL> !info pdefedit
[11:16] <erUSUL> !info pdfedit
[11:17] <Luija1006> hello people I need help: After upgrading with Kpackage kit now I cannot print, it tosses and error when printing: "Error while printing", no details are shown, solution?
[11:20] <lapion> Str82DHeaD, you won't be rebuilding the kernel, reinstaslling the kernel rebuilds the initramfs, which is a file containing a ramdisk file that gets loaded at the startup of the system,
[11:22] <arand> wildbat: No definite solution, but an helpful bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565522
[11:22] <avg_guy> is there a way to make the extra pane in nautilus default?
[11:26] <avg_guy> I also was wondering about changing the gdm in 10.04?
[11:30] <morphix> probably not a good place to ask but.. does anyone know if its possible to put a if/else statement in a variable for bash scripting?
[11:30] <morphix> eg. whatever the output from the if/else statement returns is variable A
[11:31] <jrib> morphix: #bash
[11:32] <arand> avg_guy: No, and no, pretty much. new gdm has nor reimplemented theming, and the split view was disabled as a startup default by upstream nautilus developes, some tips on how to change gdm: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[11:32] <Guest55024> 好多人阿
[11:34] <test1_> how do I remove the main gnome-menu item which is appearing only for the root
[11:34] <test1_> ?
[11:34] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[11:35] <raddy> I recently installed Ubuntu 10.04 in my laptop having nVidia integrated graphics controller.
[11:35] <raddy> Within couple of reboots and usage, my Laptop's nVidia GPU went kaput.
[11:37] <raddy> I hope the latest nouveau  driver rendered my Integrated nVidia graphics useless
[11:37] <raddy> It costed me Rs 4000 to replace it.
[11:38] <raddy> Now i am afraid to test Ubuntu once again. :(
[11:38] <test1_> hello....
[11:39] <arand> raddy: Have you written a good bug report on nouveau in order that it may get fixed?
[11:40] <anodesni> what is Rs 4000?
[11:40] <red> Id like to installa additional color themes to gedit
[11:40] <red> I found this site http://github.com/mig/gedit-themes
[11:40] <red> but the xml files won't install when I click add in gedits color panel
[11:41] <anodesni> raddy, just use proprietary then
[11:41] <rocket16> Friends, can x86 Ubuntu version be installed on 64 bit? (Just wondering)
[11:42] <bazhang> rocket16, sure
[11:42] <raddy> anodesni : How to skip the nouveau driver.
[11:42] <anodesni> raddy, maybe alternate install cd
[11:42] <rocket16> bazhang: Thanks for the reply, friend. But won't there be any problem? I mean, isn't there a specialized version for 64 bit?
[11:42] <erUSUL> rocket16: 64 bit cpu's are backwards compatible with 32 bit software
[11:43] <bazhang> rocket16, how much ram do you have? if 4GB then you can use the generic-pae kernel to get all of it in 32bit
[11:43] <rocket16> erUSUL: Ah, thanks.
[11:43] <bazhang> rocket16, sure, the amd64
[11:43] <arand> raddy: rdblacklist=nouveau (or) modeset=off ?
[11:43] <erUSUL> rocket16: so you can install 32 bit soft in a 64 bit cpu but obviously not the other way around
[11:43] <rocket16> bazhang: Actually, my friend has the problem. He has 1 GB
[11:43] <ddr-> ls
[11:43] <bazhang> rocket16, then he can use the smp kernel
[11:43] <wild_oscar> out of curiosity: do you have any idea why the update manager's icon is not present even though there are updates available and I have the notification area in the panel?
[11:44] <rocket16> bazhang: Ah, thanks for the help. I think both can run then.
[11:44] <raddy> but 4k can't be recovered :(
[11:44] <bazhang> rocket16, no problem :)
[11:47] <MACscr_lappy> uh, how do i edit grub permantenly? i have no grub.conf or menu.1st
[11:47] <erUSUL> !grub2 | MACscr_lappy
[11:47] <bazhang> MACscr_lappy, grub2? check the grub2 wiki yet? ^^
[11:47] <Jank> hi
[11:48] <Jank>  :)
[11:48] <Ecsi> hi all
[11:48] <Ecsi> pls help
[11:48] <bazhang> Ecsi, then ask a question
[11:48] <Ecsi> i have sgh-z810 mobile broadband modem , but not work
[11:48] <Luija1006> hello people I need help: After upgrading with Kpackage kit now I cannot print, it tosses and error when printing: "Error while printing", no details are shown, solution?
[11:49] <MACscr_lappy> wth, grub2 is way over complicated
[11:49] <rocket16> Ecsi: Is the Modem being detected?
[11:49] <Ecsi> no m not detecting
[11:49] <rocket16> Ecsi: Did you try Gnome-ppp?
[11:50] <Jank> à ÿ ðóññêèé :p
[11:50] <erUSUL> MACscr_lappy: debian has a earned fame of overengeeniering configuration files schemes ;)
[11:50] <erUSUL> !ru
[11:50] <Ecsi> no , but i have installed usb-modeswitch package and in the ubuntu 9.10 great work , but ubuntu 10.04 not work
[11:50] <didiermah_> Bonjour
[11:51] <MACscr_lappy> erUSUL: almost makes me miss centos
[11:51] <erUSUL> MACscr_lappy: to each its own; they say
[11:52] <Jank> !ri
[11:52] <Jank> y!ru
[11:52] <Jank> !ru
[11:52] <bazhang> Jank, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:52] <didiermah_> Bonjour
[11:53] <bazhang> didiermah_, english here, french in #ubuntu-fr
[11:53] <zahran> help pleas. cannot detect usb hard disk ubuntu 9.10
[11:53] <Bel> Bonjour
[11:53] <arand> !fr
[11:53] <Soyo> !fr
[11:54] <zahran> help please. cannot detect hard disk. ubuntu 9.10
[11:54] <Ecsi> any ideas ?
[11:54] <Bel> Im journalist and i search hacker for my magazine
[11:54] <rocket16> Ecsi: Certain Modems are best detected using Gnome-ppp. If you are eager to install, use "sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp" (without quotes) in Terminal.
[11:54] <tv-freak> How to undo a change in gnome-keybinding-properties: I tried to add an item but now accidentally my delete-key does not work any more.
[11:55] <wild_oscar> out of curiosity: do you have any idea why the update manager's icon is not present even though there are updates available and I have the notification area in the panel?
[11:58] <rocket16> One thing about Ubuntu friends. A new manual named "Getting started with Ubuntu" has been released, (A free PDF) which I found out a few days ago on Web. Most of the users here might know, still if anyone isn't aware, he/she can find it at http://ubuntu-manual.org/ (Sorry for the offtopic announcement, but since it is among Ubuntu support category, so thought of spreading the word). [Disclaimer: This is certainly not an Advertisement].
[11:58] <qtapestry> Q: Where are the user files stored for the program Empathy?
[11:59] <_-XPERT-_> does anyone know about route add problems?
[11:59] <bejames> wild_oscar, no idea but I notice that update-manager is one of the things being updated on my system.maybe it's a bug and has been fixed
[12:03] <zahran> help please. cannot detect usb hard disk . ubuntu 9.10
[12:05] <rocket16> zahran: Is the Drive formatted property?
[12:06] <zahran> formatted properly . can detect in windows
[12:06] <Lantizia> zahran, is it exFAT ?
[12:06] <zahran> it FAT32 (format from windows)
[12:07] <Lantizia> ok because Linux can't do exFAT thats why I checked
[12:07] <rocket16> zahran: You need to check out the Disk Utility, from System->Administration->Disk Utility. There, see whether it is shown or not. And, you might need to make it FAT there. Make sure you have backed up all Data on Windows, and then reformat it to FAT on Linux. Then it will work.
[12:08] <zahran> rocket16 : did not show in disk utility
[12:08] <Artiom_Fiodorov> help! computer won't start up with a usb dongle
[12:09] <_-XPERT-_> Artiom_Fiodorov: Set your BIOS to boot from USB
[12:09] <dotblank> Artiom_Fiodorov, it most likely has to do with your boot order in the bios
[12:09] <Artiom_Fiodorov> no ubuntu spash screen start up
[12:09] <Artiom_Fiodorov> and then it dies
[12:09] <Artiom_Fiodorov> witout a dongle it boots up
[12:09] <dotblank> if you place in a mass storage devce sometimes depending on the port and other factors it can change the boot order
[12:09] <_-XPERT-_> Artiom_Fiodorov: How sure are ya that your USB dongle is bootable
[12:10] <blue_anna> anyone know how I can get the version of glade here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXpwC1o5AcI ? I installed glade-gnome but it doesnt look near as sweet as this version
[12:10] <rocket16> zahran: Then, did you try keeping it plugged from Startup? It might show up then.
[12:10] <Artiom_Fiodorov> it's a wifi dongle
[12:10] <Artiom_Fiodorov> i am not booting from it..
[12:11] <zahran> rocket16 . ok . reboot now
[12:11] <iguanna> hi all
[12:11] <Artiom_Fiodorov> how do I view what causes kernel to die
[12:11] <Artiom_Fiodorov> at the start up?
[12:12] <iguanna> someone could help me to setup a hotmail account in evolution?
[12:12] <blue_anna> Artiom_Fiodorov: itll be in dmesg
[12:12] <CaBa> hi
[12:13] <Artiom_Fiodorov> sorry could you elaborate? /etc/..?
[12:13] <CaBa> hi
[12:13] <CaBa> is this standard on ubuntu 10.4?
[12:13] <blue_anna> hey Caba, you can just jump right in with a question ::)
[12:13] <CaBa> # ls -ld /tmp
[12:13] <CaBa> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2010-05-17 14:52 /tmp
[12:14] <blue_anna> caba you mean is /tmp a standard feature ? yes .. of all unixes
[12:14] <CaBa> blue_anna: no... those totally useless permissions
[12:14] <rocket16> For maintaining a Music Collection, which is better? Exaile or Rhythymbox?
[12:14] <blue_anna> CaBa: no that does look funny :P
[12:14] <blue_anna> CaBa: should be ugo+rw
[12:15] <blue_anna> with go+x and a special flag
[12:15] <blue_anna> **ug+x
[12:15] <avg_guy> rocket16,  to each his or her own
[12:15] <avg_guy> rocket16,  but i like exaile
[12:15] <blue_anna> CaBa: that looks like root's permissions
[12:15] <rocket16> avg_guy: Thanks. Still, I heard that Exaile is a bit better. Let me try it once, :)
[12:16] <CaBa> blue_anna: ya, i know how those permissions *should* look like - the sticky bit is missing as well
[12:16] <CaBa> blue_anna:  i am just wondering why they look like they do
[12:16] <CaBa> blue_anna: its a fresh install of 8.04 dist-upgraded to 10.4
[12:16] <DrKenobi> Hi! I'm planning to request a mentor at the BugSquad Mentorship Program, but they ask me to have a wiki. Whats that? Where I get it?
[12:18] <blue_anna> CaBa: if I had to guess, some bad package did a "chmod --reference=/ /tmp"
[12:19] <administrator_> hi
[12:19] <ribot> hi administrator_ pleas help me
[12:21] <masterkorp> hello
[12:21] <masterkorp> i have an asus k50ij
[12:21] <masterkorp> and the num lock stoped working
[12:21] <masterkorp> since i updated to lucid
[12:22] <_-XPERT-_> does anyone know about route add problems?
[12:22] <_-XPERT-_> and yes man was red
[12:22] <masterkorp> i have already changed the to asus-laptop in the keyboerd prefereneces
[12:22] <masterkorp> any help?
[12:22] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: whats the problem?
[12:22] <tv-freak1> Rebooting gave me back my delete-key.
[12:23] <blue_anna> CaBa: chmod ugo+x /tmp && chmod +t /tmp should fix it
[12:23] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: i cant create a route to a different gateway
[12:23] <masterkorp> tv-freak1: my problem is with the num lock key
[12:23] <Nece228> hi, should i buy core 2 duo or phenom x2 ?
[12:23] <lalla> where do i find: http://i.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339299234/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala_1.jpg image on ubuntu cd?
[12:23] <rocket16> How to enable Visualization in Exaile? For Songs?
[12:23] <_-XPERT-_> creating route thru my default gw is no problem but wen i choose anothe it tells me no such process
[12:23] <mousty> Hi @ll, I am beginner with Ubuntu 10.04 and I want boot to text mode, where I can start GUI with X command. How I set this please? Sorry for mi english...
[12:23] <sanousy> hi ubunu-ers :)
[12:24] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: what command did you use?
[12:24] <masterkorp> i i have alredy tried to reboot
[12:24] <jrib> mousty: yo don't want gdm to start by default?
[12:24] <caac> hi, where in gconf-editor can i find the settings to change the Date format?
[12:24] <blue_anna> anyone know how I can get the version of glade here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXpwC1o5AcI ? I installed glade-gnome but it doesnt look near as sweet as this version
[12:24] <mousty> jrib >> yes
[12:24] <masterkorp> any help?
[12:24] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: route add host gw gateway
[12:24] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: ip route gives same issue
[12:25] <jrib> mousty: add "never" as a condition for gdm to start in /etc/init/gdm.conf
[12:25] <lalla> where do i find: http://i.cbsi.com.au/story_media/339299234/ubuntu-910-karmic-koala_1.jpg image on ubuntu cd?
[12:25] <blue_anna> jrib: tough condition to fill :)
[12:25] <mousty> jrib >> here I sett a runlevel?
[12:25] <anna> film
[12:25] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: try "route add default gw GW dev DEVICE". GW is the ip address of the gateway and DEVICE is the name of the interface
[12:25] <masterkorp> can anyone now how to activate de numeric keys again?
[12:25] <jrib> mousty: no.  Why do you want to do this?
[12:26] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: Default route is present
[12:26] <blue_anna> masterkorp: the num lock on the numeric pad.. top-left buttom
[12:26] <leagris> Hello, How do I control/silent output of sound from microphone in gnome-volume-control without disabling recording?
[12:26] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: are you trying to add another default route?
[12:26] <blue_anna> masterkorp: there's an option to always toggle that in System->keyboards
[12:27] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: no i am trying to reach a ip thru another gw wich can be reached thru my default gw
[12:27] <masterkorp> blue_anna  tried and the light changes
[12:27] <masterkorp> but dont write
[12:27] <mousty> jrib >> The graphical environment is geared, I want to learn a text, but so that my PC boot into text mode.
[12:27] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: alright, just add the "dev DEVICE" argument and it should work
[12:27] <masterkorp> any help?
[12:27] <jrib> mousty: you can use the terminal in the graphical environment.  Is that not sufficient for you?
[12:28] <ondrejk> mousty: check /etc/inittab
[12:28] <blue_anna> masterkorp: both on and off it doesn't work? then you have the wrong keyboard profile. go to preferences->keyboards and try to manually add your keyboard on the second tab
[12:28] <masterkorp> i funs as always off
[12:28] <mousty> ondrejk >> I have no inittab in Ubuntu 10.04
[12:29] <masterkorp> *funcs
[12:29] <_-XPERT-_> akashv: Did this also but still No Such Process
[12:29] <masterkorp> i tried and put in asus laptop and in generic
[12:29] <ondrejk> mousty: thats weird, switching by ctrl+alt+fn isnt good for you?
[12:29] <masterkorp> none of that works
[12:29] <_-XPERT-_>  akashv have to go back in 30 min or so thnx
[12:29] <mousty> jrib >> i wanted to run the X server with command. Thats all :-)
[12:30] <jrib> mousty: that's fine.  Do what I said to /etc/init/gdm.conf then
[12:30] <akashv> _-XPERT-_: paste the output for "netstat -r" in the pastebin
[12:30] <masterkorp> any suggestion?
[12:30] <nutz> hi all - i think "zsnes" is not available in 10.04 anymore. is that true? and if so: why?
[12:31] <iflema> masterkorp has the numpad taken on a second function.... e.g. on a PC holding shift and pressing numlock results in the the numpad switching to moving the mouse cursor......
[12:31] <ondrejk> mousty: you can run multiple x servers
[12:31] <mousty> jrib >> in this I can sett this?
[12:31] <blue_anna> masterkorp: I'd do two things if I were you -- I'd search for your keyboard + ubuntu or + linux or whatever and see if you can find something useful, and I'd try a different keyboard profile, despite the fact that you think you have the correct profile for your keyboard
[12:31] <jrib> mousty: you can disable gdm from starting by doing what I said, yes...
[12:31] <ondrejk> mythicalbox: log in normally into graphic, switch to virtual console and write something like startx -- :2
[12:31] <masterkorp> thnaks
[12:31] <sanousy> #clear
[12:31] <masterkorp> is is ths shitf key?
[12:31] <mousty> jrib >> jj
[12:31] <ondrejk> mythicalbox: sry, it was for mousty
[12:31] <masterkorp> how
[12:32] <masterkorp> ?
[12:32] <leagris> Ho to workaround this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/463618
[12:32] <pocoyo> Destine: hi , i'm here.
[12:32] <mousty> ondrejk >> From GUI to text mode switch can do, but I have it backwards.
[12:32] <pocoyo> Destine: why are you here?
[12:33] <masterkorp> iflema how do i change that back to normal? to dont need the shift key?
[12:33] <mousty> I think that is runlevel 5
[12:33] <sanousy> I have a question about Android, why I cannot find a copy of it, and why they say it cannot work on Nokia 5800?
[12:33] <Destine> pocoyo, why can't i?
[12:33] <LjL> sanousy: try asking in #android (type /join #android). this is #ubuntu
[12:33] <mousty> I´m going to try this ;-)
[12:33] <mousty> thanks
[12:33] <SuperLag> I see that Evolution has a --force-shutdown option... but is there any way to get it to gracefully shut down from a remote login?
[12:34] <pocoyo> Destine: of course you can. :D here is not have happyaron hahaha.
[12:34] <sanousy> oops, it is ubuntu!! :D sorry bye.
[12:34] <ondrejk> SuperLag: what do you mean by remote login?
[12:34] <iflema> masterkorp im not sure what you mean? repeat the process to undo what i typed earlier.!?
[12:35] <ondrejk> SuperLag: another user on same machine or via ssh?
[12:35] <masterkorp> thanks
[12:35] <SuperLag> ondrejk: I'm working from home, and don't have access to my logged in display session... I've only got ssh access from here.
[12:35] <masterkorp> need to use always shit key to activate numeric
[12:35] <happyaron> pocoyo: hey buddy!
[12:35] <mousty> jrib >> i have removed ( gdm.conf ) ?
[12:36] <jrib> mousty: no.  That's not what I told you to do ....
[12:36] <ondrejk> SuperLag: i think --force-shutdown should be fine
[12:36]  * iflema :)
[12:36] <ondrejk> or .. wait a sec
[12:36] <masterkorp> can i send the "write" comand result to an X session?
[12:37] <Destine> pocoyo, he is here.
[12:37] <pocoyo> happyaron: 。。。。。。。
[12:37] <happyaron> pocoyo: what's up?
[12:37] <karthik> whats the difference between su and su -
[12:37] <ondrejk> SuperLag: you can send signal to evolution via kill ... i think its stop signal
[12:37] <SuperLag> ondrejk: Evolution was using a ton of the RAM on the machine. It's nice to see that, since I killed it, the system reclaims that RAM for use.
[12:38] <Destine> pocoyo, you can not seperate happyaron and i.
[12:38] <SuperLag> ondrejk: I did the --force-shutdown. I had to specify the --display, and =:0 worked
[12:38] <SuperLag> ondrejk: my only concern is that I will have hosed my nice setup to the company Exchange server
[12:39] <SuperLag> ondrejk: hence my desire to close it gracefully
[12:39] <zahran> rocket16 : can detect usb hard disk when plug in & restart
[12:39] <pocoyo> Destine: happyaron， i can't stand you!
[12:39] <zahran> rocket16 : TQVM
[12:39] <jrib> karthik: - is the same as --login per the man page
[12:40] <karthik> jrib: I am able to run slapcat if i login as su -  . .. but if i do su it say command not found  .. Any ideas ??
[12:40] <jrib> karthik: why are you su'ing to root at all?
[12:41] <rgnr> кто прогами для войпофонии пользуется?
[12:41] <karthik> jrib: I need to have root access to run slapcat -l command .. thats y
[12:41] <Pici> !ru | rgnr
[12:42] <djbeenie> using ubuntu 10.4, having issues with my menus, I have to run gnome-shell --replace and reboot to get my menus to work again
[12:42] <djbeenie> i have to do this every day
[12:42] <iguanna> how to use my TV how a second display by a S-video cable?
[12:42] <NET||abuse> Hey folks, i'm on lucid, but this is a general problem with Network-Manager i've always had.. My apartment has about 20 wifi networks around, my neighbours let me on their network before when i had isp problems, now their network is selected more often than not when i boot, and my own network is very slow to be listed even on Network-Manager?
[12:42] <NET||abuse> How can i get NM to update the network list a bit more aggressively or on demand?
[12:42] <jrib> karthik: why not just use sudo?
[12:43] <karthik> Ya .. I just added myself to sudo .. Just wanted to know why the command worked if its su -  and why it didnt work su .. Just wanted to know ..
[12:44] <jrib> karthik: you know the first user can sudo by default? The root account is locked by default on ubuntu.  Are you using ubuntu?  Anyway, I imagine your path is different between su and su -
[12:45] <xsaiddx> hello guys
[12:45] <rocket16> !hi | xsaiddx
[12:45] <karthik> jrib: Ohh.. I m sorry I posted it in the wrong channel .. I m using CentOS.. Very sorry
[12:45] <xsaiddx> i cant see what the option -b of ls can do
[12:45] <xsaiddx> can someone tell me please
[12:45] <bbalajirao> Pidgin not connecting to yahoo chat. any help available?
[12:45] <rocket16> bbalajirao: Is it Yahoo Japan or simple Yahoo?
[12:46] <bbalajirao> simple yahoo
[12:46] <xsaiddx> when i do ls -b
[12:46] <jrib> xsaiddx: man ls<enter>/-b<enter>
[12:46] <Pici> xsaiddx: it prints the octal character codes if there is a non-printable character in a file or directory name.
[12:46] <karthik>  Ohh.. I m sorry I posted it in the wrong channel .. I m using CentOS.. Very sorry
[12:47] <blue_anna> xsaiddx: why are you doing -b ?
[12:47] <jrib> karthik: it's ok
[12:47] <djbeenie> using ubuntu 10.4, having issues with my menus, I have to run gnome-shell --replace and reboot to get my menus to work again, have to do this every day or sometimes twice a day
[12:47] <xsaiddx> yeah i mean cus english its my third langauge so icudnt et that when i ead in the man
[12:47] <jrib> xsaiddx: do you understand it now?
[12:47] <saturn__> 能不能说中文的
[12:47] <bbalajirao> rocket16: simple yahoo
[12:47] <saturn__> 有人在吗，中国的
[12:47] <aion> 94
[12:47] <jrib> !cn | saturn__
[12:48] <xsaiddx> not really : (
[12:48] <aion> 有
[12:48] <saturn__> #ubuntu-cn
[12:48] <aion> 但是不懂英文
[12:48] <rocket16> I want to set up an Ethernet Connection (using an Ethernet cable) between my Desktop (Windows Vista and Kubuntu) and my Laptop (only Ubuntu). So, is there a guide to setting up such a network between Ubuntu and Vista? (Which is also known as Poor Man's networking, :D Since Idon't have a router here)
[12:48] <saturn__> 是阿
[12:48] <aion> 哈哈哈哈哈
[12:48] <saturn__> 大家说中文吧
[12:48] <iceroot> saturn__ and aion: stop it
[12:48] <xsaiddx> blue_anna: just curious to see what it does
[12:48] <saturn__> 对了，飞信好像用不了了阿
[12:48] <blue_anna> xsaiddx: I still don't understand why you are looking for ls -b -- english is not the language I use my computer in either, yet I don't need to do that
[12:48] <rocket16> !cn | aion
[12:48] <blue_anna> xsaiddx: ooh
[12:48] <djbeenie> rocket16, yeah a switch :)
[12:49] <jrib> xsaiddx: you can have a character that's not like a letter or number in a filename ("nongraphic character").  With -b you can see there is some character there because ls will tell you the octal code for it
[12:49] <Aman> = =! 中国人去 #ubuntu-cn 频道把.
[12:49] <aion> qq可以使用
[12:49] <saturn__> 怎么样去
[12:49] <aion> 但是不能访问空间
[12:49] <jrib> saturn__, aion: english only here please
[12:49] <happyaron> saturn__: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:49] <happyaron> aion: see above
[12:49] <rocket16> djbeenie: Switch to Ubuntu? That is great, but I do wish to make one bwteen Vista and Ubuntu for experimental purposes, :D Any help?
[12:49] <saturn__> join #ubuntu-cn
[12:49] <Aman> ／join #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <saturn__> 没有用阿
[12:50] <xsaiddx> jrib: thnaks a non-carachtare like those squares when the encodin its diffent ior not supported right
[12:50] <rocket16> !cn | aion
[12:50] <jrib> saturn__: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <blue_anna> xsaiddx: save a file like with a character from an encoding different than the encoding you are currently using, .. the filename will have an ? displaying where that character was. if you have two similar words with a different, non-printable character right there, you're not going to be able to tell a difference.
[12:50] <happyaron> saturn__: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <djbeenie> rocket16, no you need a switch to connect the two machines
[12:50] <blue_anna> xsaiddx: use -b to see the difference
[12:50] <aion> i konw a little English :)
[12:50] <happyaron> rocket16, jrib: thanks, I am from #ubuntu-cn
[12:50] <rocket16> djbeenie: Switch? :( Is that an application? Or simply a hardware switch?
[12:51] <djbeenie> rocket16, hardware switch
[12:51] <xsaiddx> blue_anna: okies tnx i get now
[12:51] <Aman> 在你发信息的窗口发　／join #ubuntu-cn
[12:51] <rocket16> happyaron: No problem, my pleasure,
[12:51] <xsaiddx> thanks guys
[12:51] <xsaiddx> have fun
[12:51] <xsaiddx> peace out
[12:51] <happyaron> saturn__: see my PM
[12:51] <yfk> what's a simple way to put some load on my CPU?