[00:38] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye
[01:10] <dude1> Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions?
[01:15] <dude1> Dual installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 to new External HDD and having problems with GRUB not wanting to load Mint, any suggestions?
[01:19] <Hellow> Hmm.
[01:22] <dude1> something new Hellow?
[01:26] <dude1> An issue you've not come across?
[01:27] <Hellow> I've never much liked booting from external devices.
[01:27] <dude1> ok
[01:28] <dude1> Well GRUB2 comes up with the standard Ubuntu 9.10, Recovery Mode and Mem Test, with Linux Mint 8 Main Edition Helena Shown at bottom of GRUB Menu but will not allow me to boot to it
[01:28] <dude1> I select it and it gives me an error that no such device exists
[01:28] <dude1> then when I try to select Ubuntu , it gives me the same error
[01:29] <dude1> go to a shell prompt for GRUB, type exit and it allows me to boot Ubuntu
[01:29] <dude1> brb
[01:30] <dude1> Just something I'm toying with
[01:43]  * ZachK_ nods to the tram
[01:43] <ZachK_> *team I mean
[01:44] <DarkwingDuck> greetings
[01:44] <DarkwingDuck> paultag: ping
[01:44] <ZachK_> Hey DarkwingDuck
[01:45] <DarkwingDuck> how is life?
[01:45] <ZachK_> DarkwingDuck: Ok....and you?
[01:45] <DarkwingDuck> good... busy
[01:46] <ZachK_> DarkwingDuck: Ah...one minute and I'll look at your page
[01:46] <DarkwingDuck> thanks
[01:46] <DarkwingDuck> I'm slowing bulding content... just working with design.
[01:47] <mohi1> hey DarkwingDuck , ZachK_
[01:47] <DarkwingDuck> hey mohi1
[01:47] <mohi1> DarkwingDuck, sup?
[01:47] <mohi1> i have to leave now...
[01:47] <DarkwingDuck> trying to get the kubuntu docs finished
[01:48] <mohi1> cool and you are fully fit now??
[01:48] <mohi1> DarkwingDuck, ^
[01:49]  * ZachK_ annhilates mohi1
[01:49] <mohi1> ZachK_, i ll get back later...
[01:50] <DarkwingDuck> Yup. Just transfered to a good job in Mississippi
[01:50] <DarkwingDuck> Actually, I'll be starting a LoCo out here.
[01:50] <mohi1> nice to hear :)
[01:50] <mohi1> anyways bye guys
[02:04] <dude1> Ok, back for some more help with my dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and Linux Mint 8 from new USB HDD
[02:06] <ZachK_> Ok.....
[02:07] <dude1> I installed them both Ubuntu first, then Linux Mint 8, opting to not use the Linux Mint 8 bootloader and just let Ubuntu handle it
[02:07] <dude1> When I reboot and grub screen comes up it will not let me boot in to any of them
[02:08] <dude1> I enter "c" for command line which takes me to a grub shell and I can type exit and it will go to the grub menu again and allow me to boot in to Ubuntu
[02:08] <ZachK_> Hmmm.....
[02:09] <dude1> I have also noticed through the disk utility that Linux Mint 8 has a very strange mount point to it
[02:10] <dude1> file:///media/6841577c-eb9a-495c-bc0c-acf40df094f7
[02:11] <dude1> preceded by /dev/sda6
[02:12] <dude1> or I assume it to be strange, I'm a noob here
[02:14] <dude1> So I'm wondering if there is a workaround for this
[03:20] <ZachK_> Akos: please pm me
[03:20] <ZachK_> when you have time that is
[03:38] <ZachK_> wb celthundar
[03:38] <celthundar> hey
[03:38] <celthundar> sup
[03:38] <ZachK_> not much
[03:39] <ZachK_> researching possible pc to buy....figuring out one to get that will work with linux
[03:39] <DarkwingDuck> ZachK_: that list is actually quite large
[03:39] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[03:40] <DarkwingDuck> I would almost say the list that WONT work is quite small
[03:40] <ZachK_> DarkwingDuck: pm me with list then?
[03:40] <paultag> hi ZachK_
[03:40] <paultag> ZachK_, have you seen the HCL?
[03:40] <paultag> ZachK_, that's your list
[03:40] <ZachK_> ah hi paultag
[03:40] <ZachK_> hcl...
[03:41] <paultag> ZachK_, hardware compatibility list
[03:41] <ZachK_> ptag...link?
[03:41] <DarkwingDuck> http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[03:41] <paultag> ZachK_, I don't have one. Google around, they are from everyone. Fredora, Ubuntu, etc
[03:41] <DarkwingDuck> ZachK_: ^^^^
[03:41] <paultag> ZachK_, it's the kernel not a distro, so each distro may only have a small part of the whole list
[03:43] <DarkwingDuck> ZachK_: se if that works for ya
[03:43] <ZachK_> thanks DarkwingDuck...looking now
[04:04] <ZachK_> celthunder: you need voice man
[04:04] <celthunder> eh
[04:04] <celthunder> lol
[04:05] <celthunder> oh
[04:05]  * celthunder shrugs
[04:05] <celthunder> apparently i'm not cool enough :)
[04:05] <celthunder> how's the comp process going?
[04:07] <ZachK_> celthunder: goin...
[04:08] <celthunder> so you'll have one at your door...tommorrow?
[04:08] <ZachK_> celthunder: hah....i wish
[04:11] <ZachK_> hey PabloRubianes
[04:11] <PabloRubianes> hey ZachK_
[04:57] <ZachK_> welcome Ten-Eight
[05:00] <Ten-Eight> Thank you ZachK
[05:03] <ZachK_> Ten-Eight: and how are you today?
[05:04] <Ten-Eight> ZachK: doing well and yourself?
[05:04] <ZachK_> pretty much the same
[05:04] <Ten-Eight> nothing happening in here this evening/morning?
[05:05] <ZachK_> well depends on what the "happening" is
[05:05] <Ten-Eight> haven't seen any convo scrolling by....pretty quiet.
[05:06] <ZachK_> ah..
[05:06] <ZachK_> nobody needs help atm
[05:06] <Ten-Eight> guess so ;)
[05:07] <celthunder> i needs help
[05:08] <celthunder> if 373 people are attacking you with swords anda ll you have as a weapon is a stick and a gumball HOW DO YOU WIN
[05:08] <Ten-Eight> I can chew gum and run at the same time ;)  to heck with the stick!
[05:10] <celthunder> lol
[05:13] <ZachK_> hey paultag
[05:14] <paultag> heyo
[05:18] <ZachK_> hey ptag....what's been up with you?
[05:27] <tenach> Hello.
[05:27] <ZachK_> hey tenach
[05:27] <paultag> sorry ZachK_, I don't see anything without my name in it
[05:27] <ZachK_> paultag: it's cool
[05:27] <paultag> ZachK_, Nothing. Where have you been spending your time, you delinquent?
[05:28] <tenach> My sister-in-law wants me to put Ubuntu on her machine without getting rid of Windows 7 if possible.  Does anyone know of a good way to go about this?  I have only dual booted with XP.
[05:28] <ZachK_> tenach: one sec...will grab info
[05:28] <tenach> ZachK_, Thanks.
[05:28] <tenach> I'm googling, but for some reason tonight my Googliness doesn't seem to be working. :/
[05:30] <ZachK_> paultag: no pc means no access to ubuntu......finally got a way to do this via my ipod but it's tough....
[05:30] <paultag> aye.
[05:30] <ZachK_> paultag: and work...lot of that...question...gonna vote for me?
[05:30] <paultag> ZachK_, for what?
[05:31] <ZachK_> paultag: the fg lead....(wiki)
[05:31] <paultag> ZachK_, you are the only candidate.
[05:31] <ZachK_> paultag: yeah...people still gotta vote
[05:32] <ZachK_> doesn't mean i automatically get it...
[05:32] <paultag> ZachK_, you are not going to not get it
[05:32] <paultag> ZachK_, yeah it does. We can't have a FG without a Lead
[05:32] <ZachK_> paultag: ah...maybe....
[05:32] <ZachK_> true though paultag
[05:32] <paultag> ZachK_, but if you are super idle ( like you are / were ) I'll have to re-examine the structure of that focus group
[05:34] <ZachK_> paultag: i'm not idle anymore...and i was gone due to no access
[05:35] <ZachK_> welcome nevets04
[05:35] <tenach> Hello nevets04
[05:35] <nevets04> Hello
[07:15] <ZachK_> welcome MadameTock and hey hobgoblin and talsemgeest
[07:16] <talsemgeest> Heya ZachK_ :)
[07:16] <MadameTock> Hello, ZachK_!
[07:17] <ZachK_> talsemgeest: how's it goin buddy?
[07:17] <tenach> Oh hello there, MadameTock
[07:17] <ZachK_> MadameTock: and how are you madam?
[07:17] <MadameTock> Oooh hello, tenach.
[07:17] <MadameTock> Quite fine, as a matter of fact.
[07:17] <talsemgeest> ZachK_: Just testing out the lovely new 10.04 beta :)
[07:17] <ZachK_> MadameTock: that's good..
[07:17] <ZachK_> talsemgeest: let's move to either -team or ##switch2nix...
[07:18] <hobgoblin> hi there ZachK_
[07:31] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: how's things?
[07:32] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: pretty good ty
[07:32] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: cool...
[07:32] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: sad that you left man....
[07:34] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: it was not the place that I joined - nuff said about that now I think :)
[07:34] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: true....true
[07:36] <hobgoblin> I still come here though to help when I can
[07:37] <ZachK_> hobgoblin: glad to hear it..
[07:38]  * ZachK_ offers help....anyone want help?......ah well
[07:40] <ZachK_> welcome mathay
[07:43] <hobgoblin> see what you did there ...
[07:44] <MadameTock> I have in house help- But I hang around to pick things up on occasion :D
[07:44]  * ZachK_ looks around...mouths, "Who me? Wasn't me I swear!"
[07:58] <tenach> Haha.
[07:58] <ZachK_> hhaa
[08:11] <hobgoblin> ZachK_: it won't be long and it will be too busy in here
[08:11] <ZachK_> meaning?
[08:12] <hobgoblin> april release
[08:12] <ZachK_> ah...
[08:12] <ZachK_> got ya
[08:23] <ZachK_> anyone here?
[09:02] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[09:05] <talsemgeest> Hey there Silver_Fox_ :)
[09:05] <Silver_Fox_> Hello talsemgeest
[09:05] <Silver_Fox_> How are you ?
[09:05] <talsemgeest> Silver_Fox_: Good, just installed 10.04 beta on my laptop :)
[09:05] <talsemgeest> Hows things with you Silver_Fox_?
[09:06] <Silver_Fox_> How is the beta going for you?  The alphas were fun ;)
[09:06] <Silver_Fox_> I am okay talsemgeest ,  just reviewing beginners "team" emails
[09:06] <talsemgeest> Silver_Fox_: Yup, Ive put in all my votes :)
[09:07] <talsemgeest> Silver_Fox_: All looking very slick, but the button changes will take a bit of getting used too
[09:07] <talsemgeest> Erm, *to
[09:07] <Silver_Fox_> Oh no not the votes.  Not really concerned about that.
[09:07] <Silver_Fox_> The comment on activity here.
[09:09] <talsemgeest> Silver_Fox_: Yup, I have been keeping an eye on that one
[09:12] <ZachK_> talsemgeest: as have i...
[09:15] <ZachK_> welcome Phrea and pedro3005
[09:16] <pedro3005> hey ZachK_
[09:16] <ZachK_> pedro3005: how are ya?
[09:16] <pedro3005> ZachK_, good, getting ready for school
[09:16] <ZachK_> pedro3005: ah....nice
[09:16]  * ZachK_ is done with school..hehehe
[09:18] <pedro3005> coool
[09:20] <pedro3005> ZachK_, so how are you?
[09:21] <ZachK_> pedro3005: ok...looking for a good pc to buy that WILL work with my 'buntu
[09:21] <pedro3005> ZachK_, isn't too hard, is it?
[09:21] <ZachK_> pedro3005: trying not to be
[09:22] <ZachK_> want a dell for sure...or at the very least Asus or HP
[09:24] <pedro3005> ZachK_, mine is just various parts assembled
[09:25] <pedro3005> works good
[09:25] <talsemgeest> +1 on that, you generallly get better performance and value for money with a pc you build yourself
[09:26] <pedro3005> make sure you get nvidia for graphics card and you're cool
[09:26] <pedro3005> i have geforce 8800 and it works very well, recommended
[09:28] <talsemgeest> Hi SeVIIeN :)
[09:29] <SeVIIeN> Hellow talsemgeest
[09:30] <AcidBanger> Goodmorning everyone :)
[09:30] <pedro3005> hello AcidBanger, SeVIIeN
[09:30] <pedro3005> and talsemgeest
[09:30] <talsemgeest> Hehe, hey pedro3005 and AcidBanger :)
[09:31] <AcidBanger> I have a simple question I think, I need to configure an Ethernet port using the terminal how do I do that ???
[09:31] <SeVIIeN> hi pedro3005
[09:31] <SeVIIeN> nice friendly channel
[09:31] <SeVIIeN> plus I'm looking for some help, but I need to find the script I was working on first :P
[09:32] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: How do you need to configure it? (I.E. what do you want to do?)
[09:32] <AcidBanger> I am setting up a ubuntu server so I need to give it a static IP in it's own range since it is gonna broadcast DHCP...
[09:33] <pedro3005> SeVIIeN, oh bash scripting is not with me :/ need to learn more about it.. currently learning C++
[09:33] <pedro3005> AcidBanger, you'd use ifconfig, /methinks
[09:34] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Ok, first you need to open up /etc/network/interfaces (something like sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces)
[09:34] <pedro3005> SeVIIeN, and getting beat up by it quite nicely, if you know what I mean ;)
[09:34] <AcidBanger> ok I did that :)
[09:35] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Ok, now you need to change one of the lines that has "dhcp" to "static"
[09:35] <SeVIIeN> pedro3005, lol, I can imagine, but it's well worth it
[09:35] <AcidBanger> I don't see DHCP anywhere :s
[09:35] <pedro3005> SeVIIeN, you know it?
[09:36] <SeVIIeN> pedro3005, oh no way
[09:36] <AcidBanger> There us no cable in the interface is it possible to even configure it then ?
[09:36] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Should be a line something like this: "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[09:36] <SeVIIeN> bash is bashing me up
[09:36] <pedro3005> SeVIIeN, python is nice and easy
[09:37] <SeVIIeN> in fact, I would change the name of the sudo command
[09:37] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: So the file is empty?
[09:37] <AcidBanger> auto lo
[09:37] <AcidBanger> iface lo inet loopback
[09:37] <SeVIIeN> some expletive would be nice
[09:37] <AcidBanger> Only 2 things I see
[09:38] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Ok, create a new line saying "iface eth0 inet static"
[09:38] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Then on a line under that type "address <IP address of the connection"
[09:38] <pedro3005> SeVIIeN, geirha is your bash person
[09:38] <talsemgeest> Something like "address <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:38] <AcidBanger> I think in my case I should configure eth1 since eth0 is gonna be my internet connection
[09:39] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Ok, that sounds good
[09:39] <AcidBanger> This is what I got so far
[09:39] <AcidBanger> auto lo
[09:39] <AcidBanger> iface lo inet loopback
[09:39] <AcidBanger> iface eth1 inet static
[09:39] <AcidBanger> adress <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:40] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Ok, next line should be "netmask <netmask>"
[09:40] <talsemgeest> Something like "netmask <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:40] <talsemgeest> Then "network <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:41] <talsemgeest> "Broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:41] <talsemgeest> "gateway <IP_ADDRESS>"
[09:41] <talsemgeest> Substituting in your own values of course :)
[09:42] <AcidBanger> Since it is a server should the gateway be the same as IP adress  ?
[09:43] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Hmm, probably. You may even be able to leave that line out entirely
[09:43] <AcidBanger> ok thank you :)
[09:44] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Anything else? I need to go sleep :)
[09:44] <AcidBanger> Next step is setting up a DHCP server but I guess I will read some more documentation :)
[09:45] <talsemgeest> AcidBanger: Yeah, I have never been able to get my dhcp server running so I cant be of much help there :)
[09:45] <talsemgeest> Ok then, night all :)
[09:45] <AcidBanger> This so far is great !
[09:45] <AcidBanger> Ty nn :)
[09:47] <pedro3005> AcidBanger, hm, maybe http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html ?
[09:47] <AcidBanger> Thanks Pedro gonna look into that I will let you know how it is going :)
[09:48] <pedro3005> AcidBanger, and I am going to school :P
[09:48] <pedro3005> good bye
[09:48] <AcidBanger> Bye bye
[09:48] <AcidBanger> Have fun at school :)
[09:49]  * ZachK_ appears from cloud and shadow....hovers....
[09:50]  * Silver_Fox_ kicks
[09:55]  * ZachK_ monkeyhammers Silver_Fox_
[09:56] <Silver_Fox_> ZachK_,  If you wish to play please go to the team channel, not here in support.
[10:47] <benny1> Hello! Can someone answer another of my newbie questions about installing Opera please? I am running ubuntu 9.10 on PS3. I have downloaded a file "
[10:47] <benny1> opera-10.10-4742.gcc4-shared-qt3.ppc
[10:47] <Silver_Fox_> What seems to be the problem benny1  :)
[10:48] <benny1>  oops sorry... anyway I have downloaded this and have no clue how to go about installing the opera browser, this just seems to be a folder rather than anything else. not sure what im doing wrong here...
[10:49] <Silver_Fox_> Did you not download the .deb from here?  http://www.opera.com/download/
[10:49] <benny1> yes
[10:49] <benny1>  i think I went for the debian version for power pc. as I didnt see a Ubuntu option
[10:51] <benny1> I'm probably approaching this all wrong, I was expecting something to open in synaptic or the software manager as in an installation executable. I've only installed software this way before!
[10:52] <Silver_Fox_> The deb isn't listed?  http://www.opera.com/browser/download/?custom=yes
[10:53] <Silver_Fox_> Is opera listed in the software center?  Applications ->  Ubuntu Software Center
[10:53]  * Silver_Fox_ isn't on Ubuntu at the moment so can't check ;)
[10:54] <benny1> when I go to the website opera/download/ it has a few options but doesnt mention Ubuntu, It seems to default to CentOS but i'm assusming its aplphabetised...
[10:55] <benny1> the second link just appears to give me just a list of older browser versions. I just chose debian, and download from opera.com/download/
[10:57] <benny1> In the software centre I can't find anything for Opera, or Google Chrome. I want to basically have the fastest lightest browser as the PS3's resources are somewhat limited at the moment, and I heard that Opera would be best fit for my need.
[10:58] <Hellow> Chrome and Opera aren't in the Ubuntu repositories.
[10:58] <Silver_Fox_> Morning Hellow  :)
[10:58] <Hellow> Good morning Silver_Fox_ :)
[10:58] <benny1> Hello, Hellow
[10:59] <benny1> Hellow: Is it possible to install anyway?
[10:59] <Hellow> I would lean towards Opera, since Chrome uses one process per tab and can demolish your RAM with ease.
[11:00] <Hellow> From what I can tell, Opera is in the Canonical partner repositories.
[11:00] <Hellow> System -> Administration -> Software Sources
[11:00] <Hellow> Third-party software tab
[11:00] <benny1> I will go for that one then Okay I will open that window now
[11:00] <Hellow> Check anything that has "archive.canonical.com" in it.
[11:02] <benny1> Is this a similar thing to editing the repos in YDL? i screwed that one up!
[11:02] <Hellow> It's hard to screw up checking boxes :).
[11:02] <Hellow> Doing it manually is where most people mess up.
[11:02] <benny1> Okay, on the first tab "Ubuntu oftware" I have everything checked except Source Code. I don't expect I'll need that.
[11:03] <benny1> Under other software nothing is checked, yet,  Cd ROM with  ... jaunty jackalope is available but not checked
[11:03] <Hellow> Other software was the tab I meant.
[11:04] <Hellow> Check the two lines that have "archive.canonical.com" in them.
[11:04] <benny1> Including "Source code"?
[11:04] <Hellow> Yes.
[11:05] <benny1> Whilst I'm here on this tab is there anything else i should configure I may need in the future or will that cover most things as I assume this is going to point Ubuntu to the right place to "get" software from
[11:06] <Hellow> Unless you need to add custom repositories, you should be fine.
[11:06] <benny1> Okay, it's now asking me to connect to the internet as the info about these ones is outdated...
[11:07] <Hellow> Let it.
[11:07] <Hellow> It has to update it's package database.
[11:07] <benny1> Ive clicked Okay, Does this update Synaptic package manger, Ubuntu software centre or both?
[11:08] <Hellow> Technical answer: Synaptic package manager is just a frontend to a tool called "aptitude" - as is the Ubuntu Software Center, and the apt-get terminal program.
[11:09] <Hellow> It updates aptitude's package database.
[11:09] <benny1> Ahh I get it. thanks hopefully i'll know better for next time now...
[11:11] <benny1> okay I think that process has completed so should I be able to add opera from the software centre now?
[11:11] <Hellow> Yes.
[11:13] <benny1> Hmm I think I did something wrong I don't see Opera, not under internet anyway...
[11:13] <Hellow> Hmm...
[11:13] <Hellow> Silver_Fox_: Poke.
[11:13] <Silver_Fox_> Yes
[11:13] <Hellow> Silver_Fox_: Could you take over here? I'm about to be forced to leave for school.
[11:13] <Silver_Fox_> Sure
[11:13] <Hellow> Thanks.
[11:14] <Silver_Fox_> Pleasure
[11:14] <benny1> Hellow: Thanks for the Help!!!
[11:14] <Hellow> benny1: No problem. Sorry I couldn't solve your problem.
[11:14] <Thraul> hey all
[11:15] <duanedesign> hello Thraul
[11:15] <benny1> Hellow: I think even though i'm not quite there yet, I still know more than i did before and better equipped to help myself for the future very useful!
[11:15] <Silver_Fox_> Hmm ,  benny1 :  open a terminal:
[11:15] <Silver_Fox_> Run this command: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[11:15] <Thraul> I think this question might be a bit above beginner but i'll ask just the same, anyone here have any experience with remastering a ubuntu desktop live cd?
[11:15] <benny1> Including the "deb" at the begging?
[11:15] <Silver_Fox_> I would also have a look here benny1:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:16] <Silver_Fox_> Yes benny1 ,  we are going to install via repository
[11:17] <benny1> It returned deb : Command not found
[11:17] <Silver_Fox_> Oh my,  sorry,
[11:17] <Thraul> Silver_Fox_, I believe the command you want to run is: sudo echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:17] <Thraul> then run and sudo apt-get update
[11:17] <Silver_Fox_> Yes.  That right Thraul  :)
[11:17] <Silver_Fox_> Yes
[11:18] <benny1> Thraul:  thanks
[11:18] <benny1> With quotes
[11:18] <Thraul> yes
[11:19] <benny1> is there a space between /opera/ and stable ? screens a little hard to see there.
[11:19] <Thraul> yeah
[11:19] <Thraul> just copy and paste should work ;)
[11:20] <benny1> I dont have permission somehow..
[11:20] <benny1> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:20] <Thraul> hmmm
[11:22] <Silver_Fox_> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:23] <benny1> Silver_Fox_: I have that file open now. large text file, :-D
[11:23] <Silver_Fox_> All you need do is add the "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" to the end
[11:24] <Silver_Fox_> I am also sorry about telling you to run that command in terminal,  it just slipped my mind. :)
[11:25] <Thraul> add it with out the quotes to the bottom of the file on a new line
[11:25] <Thraul> save and exit file
[11:25] <Thraul> go back to terminal and run: sudo apt-get update
[11:25] <Silver_Fox_> Then run check for updates
[11:25] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[11:25] <benny1> don't apologise you are already helping me plenty I would be still trying to run a folder if it wanst for the pople here!
[11:26] <benny1> Okay thats been saved
[11:26] <Silver_Fox_> Yes,  but its a silly mistake I made ;)  I am more annoyed at myself than anything :D
[11:26] <benny1> Oooh it seems busy now
[11:26] <Silver_Fox_> Cool
[11:27] <benny1> It gave an error right at the end..
[11:27] <Thraul> whats the error?
[11:27] <Silver_Fox_> Do you have the error?
[11:27] <benny1> Get: 3 http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages [859B]
[11:27] <benny1> Fetched 2,115B in 1s (1,770B/s)
[11:27] <benny1> Reading package lists... Done
[11:27] <benny1> W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F9A2F76A9D1A0061
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> Something like:  wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add -
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> I assume its related to the opera gpg key...
[11:28] <benny1> Ok that seemed t run without a hitch.
[11:28] <benny1> back to the previous command?
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> Yes
[11:28] <Silver_Fox_> :)
[11:29] <benny1> looks like success
[11:29] <Silver_Fox_> Okay
[11:29] <benny1> Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages
[11:29] <benny1> Ign http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages
[11:29] <benny1> Hit http://deb.opera.com stable/non-free Packages
[11:29] <benny1> Fetched 190B in 0s (221B/s)
[11:29] <benny1> Reading package lists... Done
[11:29] <Thraul> cool
[11:29] <Thraul> now run: sudo apt-get install opera
[11:30] <Silver_Fox_> sudo apt-get install opera
[11:31] <benny1> Looks like its working, that was the first command i tried sudo apt-get install opera. and sudo apt-get opera. and I couldnt fathom what I wasn't doing right so I then started with the google. and then here..
[11:35] <benny1> Success!
[11:36] <benny1> Thraul: Silver_Fox_: Thanks! I'ts now available in the menu for me :D
[11:37] <Silver_Fox_> Do you need help getting flash working ?
[11:39] <Silver_Fox_> ^ benny1 ^
[11:39] <benny1> I'm not sure, I would expect so, I haven't used it before
[11:39] <benny1> is youtube flash?
[11:40] <Silver_Fox_> Yes,  it will require a flash player
[11:40] <Thraul> run: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[11:41] <Silver_Fox_> try playing a video on youtube.  I think it will say something about needing a flash player.  I think it will provide a download link.
[11:41] <benny1> yes, thats right I can't get my fix..
[11:41] <benny1> shall i try the link?
[11:43] <Silver_Fox_> Can do,  yes :)
[11:45] <benny1> I assume choose APT for Ubuntu 9.04+ and agree install?
[11:46] <Silver_Fox_> Sounds reasonable to me
[11:46] <benny1> No joy, I get a page about  : Error!
[11:46] <benny1> The address type is unknown or unsupported
[11:47] <Silver_Fox_> :(
[11:48] <Thraul> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688707 try this page and follow soxs post at the bottom of the page. will guide you on installing flash with opera web browser
[11:49] <benny1> Okay i will give that a go thanks to everyone !!
[11:50] <Thraul|AFK> let us know how it go :)
[12:36] <nigelb> Silver_Fox_: hey do you mind joining -team? we're just having an informal chat about irc helping :)
[12:36] <Silver_Fox_> Okay.
[13:44] <switchgirl> is there agui for pgp?
[13:48] <nigelb> switchgirl: for making a key?
[13:48] <nigelb> yes
[13:48] <nigelb> Accessories > passwords and encryption keys
[14:01] <switchgirl> kk
[14:01] <switchgirl> thanks
[14:02]  * switchgirl is thinking she needs help with a project
[14:02]  * switchgirl wants to open her government up and see what it's spending on everything- where possible
[15:04] <Akos> hi team
[15:06] <Silver_Fox_> Hello Akos
[15:08] <mR0> I'm using cq40 with ubuntu 9.04 and my bluetooth do not seem work. Is here any help?
[15:10] <Akos> mR0: is that a HP Compay laptop?
[15:10] <Akos> *compaq
[15:11] <mR0> akos: yes
[15:13] <Akos> mR0: wait a second please, I'll look through the ubuntuforums to see what can i find on the topic
[15:13] <mR0> Akos: I'll wait here...
[15:16] <mR0> Akos: I already search through ubuntu forum, I can't find solutions for my problem. (or maybe I don't know)
[15:19] <cprofitt> Silver_Fox_: you still aroung?
[15:19] <cprofitt> around eve?
[15:19] <Silver_Fox_> Yes
[15:19] <cprofitt> k
[15:19] <Silver_Fox_> Why?
[15:19] <cprofitt> just did not see you in the team channel anymore
[15:20] <Silver_Fox_> Yes.
[15:20] <cprofitt> if you want to pick up the convo we can
[15:20] <cprofitt> do it in there
[15:23] <mR0> btw, I run this : lshw -c network
[15:23] <mR0>   *-network
[15:23] <mR0>        description: Wireless interface
[15:23] <mR0>        product: BCM4312 802.11b/g
[15:23] <mR0>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[15:23] <mR0>        physical id: 0
[15:23] <mR0>        bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
[15:23] <mR0>        logical name: eth1
[15:23] <mR0>        version: 01
[15:24] <mR0>        serial: 00:21:00:d4:f5:d8
[15:24] <mR0>        width: 64 bits
[15:24] <mR0>        clock: 33MHz
[15:24] <mR0>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
[15:24] <mR0>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=<IP_ADDRESS> latency=0 module=wl multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
[15:24] <mR0>   *-network
[15:24] <mR0>        description: Ethernet interface
[15:24] <mR0>        product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
[15:24] <mR0>        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
[15:24] <mR0>        physical id: 0
[15:24] <mR0>        bus info: pci@0000:04:00.0
[15:24] <mR0>        logical name: eth0
[15:24] <mR0>        version: 02
[15:24] <mR0>        serial: 00:23:5a:45:19:bf
[15:24] <mR0>        size: 10MB/s
[15:24] <mR0>        capacity: 1GB/s
[15:24] <mR0>        width: 64 bits
[15:24] <mR0>        clock: 33MHz
[15:24] <mR0>        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
[15:24] <mR0>        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half latency=0 link=no module=r8169 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
[15:24] <mR0>   *-network DISABLED
[15:24] <mR0>        description: Ethernet interface
[15:24] <mR0>        physical id: 2
[15:24] <mR0>        logical name: pan0
[15:24] <mR0>        serial: 4a:c7:6b:80:db:fa
[15:24] <mR0>        capabilities: ethernet physical
[15:24] <mR0>        configuration: broadcast=yes driver=bridge driverversion=2.3 firmware=N/A link=yes multicast=yes
[15:25] <mR0> What it tells about?
[15:25] <hobgoblin|afk> please do not do that again - if you need to say a lot use paste.ubuntu.com
[15:25] <Silver_Fox_> mR0,  Please use pastebin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[15:26] <mR0> hobgoblin & Silver_Fox_ : Thanks for ur suggestion
[15:27] <DarkwingDuck> Bug reporting for Lucid: http://havethebuttonsmovedbackyet.com/
[15:28] <hobgoblin> I cannot see them moving them back now
[15:28] <hobgoblin> and hi DarkwingDuck
[15:28] <DarkwingDuck> hey :D
[15:37] <Akos> mR0: sorry for bailing on you, i had a collegue come to my desk, I see you got support
[15:39] <mR0> NP Akos :)
[16:53]  * switchgirl wants an open source software like ALBACS bureau
[17:01] <smeag0l> i have just been running sudo rkhunter -c and it says that there are a possible root kit xizbit here is the log http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/400655/ any help ?
[17:02]  * duanedesign looks
[17:02] <smeag0l> thank you duanedesign
[17:05] <smeag0l> i suspect that there actually are some real root kits on my machine to
[17:06] <duanedesign> smeag0l: I opened my gedit /etc/init.d/bootlogd
[17:06] <duanedesign> and did a search for 'hdparm'
[17:06] <smeag0l> okay
[17:06] <duanedesign> i found iit in line 5 of the comments at the beginning
[17:07] <duanedesign> if you want to maybe search your and see if that lines up
[17:07] <duanedesign> i will see if that is a known false alarm
[17:07] <phillw> duanedesign: I found this --> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=48549  seems a false postive.
[17:08] <smeag0l> i am pretty tired today since i have been sleeping way to much so i'm not fully on top
[17:08] <duanedesign> thank you phillw
[17:09] <smeag0l> i don't have that much knowledge about this stuff
[17:09] <phillw> most recent I could track down, there are other reports of it flagging up, all seem to point to false positive. I've not seen one saying it is a problem.
[17:09] <smeag0l> okay phillw thank you
[17:13] <duanedesign> smeag0l: also have you tried chkrootkit 'Another rootkit detector' if you are worrkied about having a rootkit.
[17:14] <smeag0l> i know about it but haven't tried it on this machine yet
[17:14] <smeag0l> i will run it
[17:19] <hobgoblin> hi there worellana
[17:19] <worellana> hobgoblin, heya o/
[17:33] <drubin> ZachK_: hey
[17:33] <drubin> ZachK_: Do you know the difference between subject and body? :)
[17:33] <ZachK_> Hi drubin
[17:33] <ZachK_> drubin: Of course why?
[17:33] <drubin> ZachK_: look at your last email to the list
[17:34] <ZachK_> drubin: Oookkkk...
[17:34] <nigelb> drubin: that was a nice way to put it :)
[17:35] <drubin> hehe
[17:35] <ZachK_> drubin: I sent that from my iPod is why I messed up....
[17:35] <drubin> ZachK_: I thought it was you shouting at first then I relised it must have just been a mess up
[17:35]  * ZachK_ 's forhead meets hand
[17:36] <ZachK_> drubin: Thanks for letting me know man...long time no see too
[17:36] <drubin> Any how time to go find some dinner or something that is edible in my house
[17:36] <drubin> Ye I have been busy. WAY to busy infact
[17:36] <hobgoblin> hi drubin
[17:37] <drubin> hey gobby
[17:37]  * ZachK_ waves to hobgoblin
[17:37] <hobgoblin> o/
[17:38] <hobgoblin> gobby - I refuse to put that in my ping list drubin !!!
[17:38] <drubin> Ah
[17:38] <drubin> ;-p
[17:38] <hobgoblin> I am hurt and will now leave forever this channel
[17:38] <hobgoblin> or shall I stay .... mmmmmmmmmm
[17:38] <hobgoblin> hi cprofitt
[17:39]  * drubin wonders off to the kitchen
[17:39] <ZachK_> Get me something too drubin
[17:47] <nat_> hello
[17:48] <ZachK_> Hello nat_
[17:48] <ZachK_> How are you nat_ ?
[17:48] <nat_> good thank you
[17:48] <nat_> i have a few questions about irc
[17:48] <ZachK_> nat_: Fire away my man!
[17:49] <nat_> is linux in general safe against irc related attacks
[17:49] <celthunder> ?
[17:50] <nat_> i mean should i worried about botnets and such
[17:50] <celthunder> i'd say that depends on client, what kind of attack, your security etc
[17:50] <nat_> can you explain a bit please
[17:51] <celthunder> if you turn off auto dcc transfers and someone tries to mass flood you with files through dcc then it won't work
[17:52] <ZachK_> nat_: Ubuntu is very safe from attacks due to its coding structure...as for IRC what program are you using?
[17:52] <celthunder> if someone get's your ip (btw +x mode usually prevents that)  and decides to send there botnet at you...not much you can do
[17:52] <nat_> ZachK_:  I want to use xchat
[17:53] <nat_> celthunder: is there a way to hide my ip
[17:53] <ZachK_> nat_: Using ubuntu?
[17:53] <celthunder> +x
[17:53] <nat_> ZachK_: yes
[17:53] <ZachK_> nat_: Yes there is...
[17:53] <ZachK_> nat_: What version of ubuntu
[17:54] <nat_> ZachK_: Karmic
[17:54] <ZachK_> That's 9.10 correct ?
[17:54] <nat_> ZachK_: yes
[17:55] <nat_> celthunder: what does +x mean
[17:55] <celthunder> that's a mode
[17:56] <celthunder> /mode +x celthunder
[17:56] <celthunder> /mode celthunder +x
[17:56] <celthunder> one of the 2
[17:56] <celthunder> so /mode your nick +x or /mode +x yournick
[17:56] <ZachK_> nat_: Ok...go to software center and type in xchat
[17:57] <ZachK_> celthunder: Thats providing he's registered the nick he wants
[17:57] <celthunder> ZachK_, no you dont need to register your nick
[17:58] <celthunder> +x works even if services is dropped maybe your fancy hostname won't work but it'll still change it
[17:58] <celthunder> or at least part ofi t
[17:58] <ZachK_> K...
[17:58] <nat_> ZachK_: yes I have installed the application using sudo apt-get install xchat
[17:59] <nat_> celthunder: so does that mean i can use +x even if i am using web based irc clients
[18:00] <celthunder> nat_ yes..
[18:01] <nat_> celthunder: is +x same or similar to cloak. I am asking because I was reading around about irc before coming here.
[18:05] <celthunder> nat_ yeah same concept
[18:05] <celthunder> cloaks are usually provided with a password or something though
[18:05] <celthunder> or for specific users
[18:05] <nat_> celthunder: ok thank you very much
[18:07] <celthunder> np :) anything else?
[18:07] <nat_> celthunder: yes thank you. I tried /whois on my nickname even after trying /mode +x nickname
[18:08] <nat_> celthunder: but i can still see my ip
[18:08] <celthunder> [nat_] (~82f5ead8@gateway/web/freenode/x-zdyobeikjopwantp
[18:08] <celthunder> you can always see your own ip
[18:08] <celthunder> * [celthunder] is connecting from<EMAIL_ADDRESS><IP_ADDRESS>
[18:08] <celthunder> see
[18:09] <celthunder> but if you whois me you'll just see lethaltechnology
[18:09] <celthunder> .net
[18:09] <celthunder> and i have -x cause i really don't care that much
[18:10] <nat_> celthunder: i understand now. thank you very much for your help. I really appreciate it.
[18:10] <celthunder> :)
[19:15] <meindian523> How do I include the iostream lib in a C++ file?
[19:16] <meindian523> #include<iostream> keeps telling me cout and cin were not declared in the scope I'm using them
[19:16] <meindian523> *gcc tells me
[19:17] <meindian523> I tried #include<iostream.h> also, and #include <iostream>
[19:17] <meindian523> *note the space
[19:22] <paultag> meindian523, this is more appropriate for #ubuntu-beignners-dev
[19:22] <meindian523> paultag, ok there in that case
[19:31] <ZachK_> Welcome worellana
[19:31] <worellana> ZachK_, thanks :)
[19:35] <ZachK_> worellana: And how are you today? And heya pedro3005
[19:35] <pedro3005> hello ZachK_ and worellana, I guess
[19:35] <worellana> I'm fine thanks, and you?
[19:36] <ZachK_> worellana: Ok-ish
[19:36]  * worellana waves pedro3005
[19:53] <katycorp> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 64 bit and grub fails to boot. When I put in the livecd and select "boot from the first hard disk", I get a grub error: "no such partition" and it drops to a grub rescue>. Anyone know how to debug this?
[19:53] <pedro3005> katycorp, maybe boot the live CD and check out your grub file
[19:55] <katycorp> pedro3005: Where is the grub file located?
[19:56] <pedro3005> katycorp, /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:00] <katycorp> pedro3005: ummmm it's empty?
[20:00] <mohi1> katycorp, you have the live CD now?
[20:00] <katycorp> yeah I booted up using the livecd
[20:01] <mohi1> katycorp, have a look at http://linuxers.org/howto/how-recover-grub2-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala
[20:01] <mohi1> pedro3005, you too
[20:01] <pedro3005> mohi1, why me? ain't none of my business!
[20:02] <mohi1> :/
[20:02] <meindian523> this is a common problem, had 2 mails in ubuntu-in ML recently on the same
[20:03] <katycorp> mohi1, thanks I'll have a look
[20:03] <mohi1> :)
[20:03] <mohi1> pedro3005, :/
[20:04] <pedro3005> mohi1, :P
[20:04] <mohi1> :\
[20:04] <mohi1> pedro3005, am going to sleep again
[20:04] <pedro3005> mohi1, ok
[20:05] <mohi1> will be back in 2 hours 30 mins. (hope so) :)
[20:10] <AJH101> Hello - I am trying to install an old Philips web cam. I have found easycam but cannot get that to install - can anyone help please?
[20:10] <pedro3005> AJH101, what are you trying?
[20:10] <bodhi_zazen> AJH101: what are you trying to install and what application are you using the web cam with ?
[20:11] <AJH101> Thanks - I am trying to install a Philips PCVC820
[20:12] <AJH101> I can see a red light flashing on the cam so I think it is working ok but I cannot get a video signal from it!
[20:12] <bodhi_zazen> Well, unlike windows, in general you do not "install" drivers
[20:12] <bodhi_zazen> try using your camera first with "cheese"
[20:13] <AJH101> The software centre tells me cheese is installed but I cannot find it in any menu!
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> Applications -> multimedia I think
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> or open a terminal and enter the command
[20:13] <bodhi_zazen> cheese
[20:14] <pedro3005> bodhi_zazen, it's Applications > Sound & Video
[20:14] <AJH101> Aagh! Found it thank you - I can see a video signal but the cam does not seem to want to work with Skype
[20:18] <bodhi_zazen> OK, so the problem is likely with Skype then
[20:18] <AJH101> So - my cam works with Cheese fine but not with Skype - any ideas? When I enter the video options in Skype I press on the test button and end up with a white screen until i hit escape.
[20:18] <bodhi_zazen> you could either ask on the Skype forums or consider Ekiga ?
[20:18] <AJH101> Very possibly but how do i solve it?! lol
[20:18] <AJH101> ekiga? is that campatible with skype users?
[20:18] <bodhi_zazen> IDK as it is not a hardware problem, it is a skype problem and I do not use skype enough
[20:19] <Hellow> Also, skype isn't open-sourced, so we can't do anything besides point you to the skype forums.
[20:19] <bodhi_zazen> No it is not compatible with skype
[20:20] <bodhi_zazen> http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=153721
[20:20] <AJH101> ok thatnks - now i will have to try with Pidgin! :-)
[20:20] <Hellow> Ekiga is a client for SIP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol). It'll work with any other client that is compatible with SIP, AFAIK.
[20:20] <Hellow> (ekiga's also open-source)
[20:21] <lukjad86> Bodsda !
[20:21] <lukjad86> Hai gang
[20:22] <katycorp> pedro3005: So I'm following the instructions on that link, and when I run update-grub I get an error that says "cannot find list of partitions"
[20:22] <Hellow> lukjad86 !
[20:22] <katycorp> but fdisk -l lists them all
[20:22] <lukjad86> Hellow !
[20:27] <pedro3005> katycorp, hm. not sure..
[20:27] <katycorp> so it fails when it tries to grep /proc/mounts
[20:27] <katycorp> because proc/mounts doesn't exist
[20:28] <pedro3005> katycorp, O.o it does here
[20:29] <pedro3005> maybe you should asks someone who knows better.. like luk... well not lukjad86. but maybe bodhi_zazen or Hellow ;)
[20:29] <Hellow> Hmm?
[20:29] <lukjad86> Ohai pedro3005
[20:30] <katycorp> well I'll take any help I can get, I'm pretty unfamiliar with grub
[20:30] <lukjad86> pedro3005 Don't hassle me, I just came back from the hospital :P
[20:30] <Hellow> Hmm.
[20:31] <Hellow> pedro3005: What link is this?
[20:31] <katycorp> http://linuxers.org/howto/how-recover-grub2-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala
[20:31] <pedro3005> Hellow, it's mohi1's link
[20:31] <pedro3005> oh
[20:32] <katycorp> I just did a fresh install and when I booted up grub failed to boot into ubuntu. Then I tried selecting "boot from hard disk" in the live cd menu, and I get a grub error "no such partition"
[20:32] <Hellow> Heh, I know who wrote that.
[20:32] <Hellow> shredder12: Ping.
[20:33] <katycorp> when I boot into the livecd and chroot, the /proc/ dir is empty
[20:36] <bodhi_zazen> katycorp: I was going to say, aer you using openvz, LXC, or a chroot ?
[20:36] <Hellow> I honestly haven't a clue about how to fix this. grub2 basically eliminated any knowledge of grub.
[20:36] <bodhi_zazen> when you chroot you need to mount a few things
[20:36] <bodhi_zazen> mount -t proc none /proc
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> mount -t sysfs none /sys
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> mount -t devpts none /dev/pts
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> within the chroot
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> unmount them when you are done
[20:37] <bodhi_zazen> what are you trying to do exactly ?
[20:38] <katycorp> boot into ubuntu
[20:38] <Hellow> bodhi_zazen: He's following the guide at http://linuxers.org/howto/how-recover-grub2-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala
[20:38] <bodhi_zazen> well you do not boot into ubuntu with chroot so you will need to be more specific then that, even if you are frustrated
[20:39] <katycorp> I just installed it, and upon restarting after the install it failed to boot,giving a "no such partition" error
[20:39] <katycorp> so I am trying to follow the steps in that link to fix grub
[20:39] <katycorp> but am not having any luck so far
[20:39] <bodhi_zazen> That is not such a good link to follow
[20:40] <bodhi_zazen> I doubt you have a separate boot partition for example, although you may
[20:40] <bodhi_zazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[20:40] <katycorp> when I installed ubuntu I used the default partitioning option, which I think uses the entire disk
[20:40] <bodhi_zazen> what happens when you boot ?
[20:41] <bodhi_zazen> you get the grub screen -> ubunt uboots ?
[20:41] <bodhi_zazen> and what version of Ubuntu ?
[20:41] <bodhi_zazen> did you install 10.05, the Beta ?
[20:41] <katycorp> no it's 9.10
[20:41] <katycorp> when I boot I get a disk error
[20:41] <katycorp> so I put the livecd in and selected "boot from local disk"
[20:42] <katycorp> and then I get a grub error "no such partition"
[20:42] <katycorp> and it drops to the grub rescue shell
[20:43] <bodhi_zazen> did you do anything fancy like encrypt your installation ?
[20:43] <bodhi_zazen> Or just go with the defalts
[20:43] <katycorp> all defaults
[20:44] <katycorp> my home dir is not encrypted or anything
[20:44] <katycorp> so I followed the instructions on the link you posted, and when I get to grub-install, I get two warnings and then an error: "cannot read '/grub/core.img" correctly
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> you running the live CD now ?
[20:45] <katycorp> yes
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> do you know how to use pastebin ?
[20:45] <bodhi_zazen> if so, pastebin the output of
[20:46] <bodhi_zazen> sudo blkid
[20:46] <katycorp> well the computer I'm doing this on is not connected to the internet right now
[20:46] <bodhi_zazen> L O L !!!
[20:47] <bodhi_zazen> do you know what partition is your ubuntu root ?
[20:47] <katycorp> hmmm nope
[20:48] <bodhi_zazen> Well you need to figure that out
[20:48] <shredder12> hi Hellow
[20:48] <bodhi_zazen> fdisk -l
[20:49] <bodhi_zazen> will list your partitions
[20:49] <Hellow> shredder12: katycorp is having trouble with one of the articles you wrote at Linuxers.
[20:49] <Hellow> http://linuxers.org/howto/how-recover-grub2-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala
[20:50] <shredder12> oh! thats bad.. Could anyone tell me at which step?
[20:50] <katycorp> the grub-mkconfig one
[20:51] <shredder12> let me see..
[20:51] <katycorp> step #7
[20:51] <shredder12> katycorp, didn't update-grub work?
[20:52] <bodhi_zazen> shredder12: LOL - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[20:52] <bodhi_zazen> chroot makes it more complicated then it needs to be, IMHO
[20:52] <katycorp> shredder12: actually no it didn't, it says it can't find the list of partitions
[20:52] <bodhi_zazen> although I do like to play in chroot
[20:53] <bodhi_zazen> just remember, those who play with root eventually kill tree
[20:54] <shredder12> bodhi_zazen,  yeah.. thats the original tutorial that helped me out... it took me a whole day to install karmic at first.. had to recover a lot of times.. thats how I got to know grub2 better.. :)
[20:54] <shredder12> katycorp, bodhi_zazen is it just a simple "windows overwrote mbr" issue or something else?
[20:55] <katycorp> shredder12: no there's no dual boot or anything
[20:55] <bodhi_zazen> naw, frest install, will not boot
[20:55] <bodhi_zazen> I suspect it is a bug
[20:55] <shredder12> bodhi_zazen, it could be.. so after installation, he is unable to boot into the system?
[20:56] <shredder12> katycorp, does the grub show up?
[20:56] <katycorp> shredder12: no it says "disk boot failure"
[20:57] <katycorp> and then I try to boot the primary disk from the livecd menu
[20:57] <katycorp> and then I get a grub error that says no partitions found
[20:58] <shredder12> katycorp, oh.. and so I guess you tried to recover grub from the live session.. and then again got the error..
[20:59] <katycorp> yeah
[20:59] <shredder12> katycorp, are you still in live session?
[20:59] <katycorp> yeah
[20:59] <bodhi_zazen> I am *trying* to get katycorp to mount the ubuntu partition at /mnt, but we do not seem to know what partition that is
[20:59] <katycorp> I already did that
[20:59] <katycorp> per the link
[21:00] <katycorp> /dev/sda1 is mounted on /mnt/
[21:00] <shredder12> katycorp, hey if you are in live session.. open gparted and it will tell you where is the "/" partition mounted
[21:00] <bodhi_zazen> ls /mnt
[21:00] <shredder12> ofcourse..
[21:01] <bodhi_zazen> does that command show things such as /boot and /etc ...
[21:01] <katycorp> after I chroot it shows nothing
[21:01] <bodhi_zazen> we do not need to use chroot
[21:02] <katycorp> gparted shows that /dev/sda1 is mounted on /,mt/
[21:02] <bodhi_zazen> without chroot, what is in /mnt if you
[21:02] <bodhi_zazen> ls /mnt
[21:02] <katycorp> bin, boot, cdrom etc
[21:02] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[21:02] <bodhi_zazen> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[21:02] <shredder12> yes, its the / partition.
[21:03] <katycorp> /dev/sda or /dev/sda1?
[21:03] <bodhi_zazen> sda
[21:04] <katycorp> says it finished, no error reported
[21:04] <bodhi_zazen> reboot and report any errors
[21:07] <katycorp> hmmm still having a disk boot failure
[21:07] <katycorp> that's disappointing
[21:08] <shredder12> eh..
[21:09] <katycorp> shredder12: So does this mean that the grub installation failed silently during the install?
[21:10] <shredder12> katycorp, well, it could have been at the time of installation.. but even after installing it again it didn't seem to work. it didn't even give any error
[21:10] <bodhi_zazen> most likely you have a bug
[21:10] <bodhi_zazen> it seems grub does not recognize the disk
[21:10] <shredder12> btw.. when do we get a disk boot failure?
[21:11] <katycorp> right at start up
[21:11] <bodhi_zazen> reboot
[21:11] <ghostofmybrain_> is there some sort of ftp program that runs from the command line?
[21:11] <shredder12> bodhi_zazen, could this be somehow related to some bios setting?
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> When you get to the grub screen , select command line
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> ghostofmybrain_: like ftp ?
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> or scp
[21:12] <katycorp> it never gets to the grub screen
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> when you get to a grub command line ...
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> katycorp: the menu is hitted
[21:12] <bodhi_zazen> hit teh Esc key
[21:13] <katycorp> well it's in the grub rescue> prompt right now
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> as you boot
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[21:13] <bodhi_zazen> set root=(hd0,1)
[21:13] <katycorp> ok
[21:13] <ghostofmybrain_> bodhi_zazen: soemthing like filezilla or something, but running from the command line
[21:14] <bodhi_zazen> linux /boot/vmilnuz ... rot=/dev/sda1
[21:14] <bodhi_zazen> use tab completion to fill in the vmlinux version
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> ghostofmybrain_: http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/164/tn_16418.html
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/194/tn_19496.html
[21:15] <katycorp> hmm there's no autocomplete happening
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> OK, you will need to boot the live CD
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> mount /dev/sda1 at /mnt
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> ls /mnt/boot
[21:15] <bodhi_zazen> and write down the kernel version number
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> vmlinux ....
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> err, vmlinuz
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> and initrd
[21:16] <bodhi_zazen> you need the exact version numbers
[21:16] <shredder12> bodhi_zazen, i think he spelled /boot/vmilnuz .. not vmlinuz
[21:16] <katycorp> yeah I know
[21:17] <katycorp> it still didn't autocomplete
[21:17] <shredder12> hey try to autocomplete after typing /boot
[21:17] <shredder12> does it show anything?
[21:17] <bodhi_zazen> you need the vmlinux-2.6.30 or whatever it is called
[21:17] <katycorp> ack too late I'm already booting into the live cd
[21:18] <shredder12> alright
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> set root=(hd0,1)
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> linux /voot/vmlinuz-2.6.... root=dev/sda1
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.....
[21:18] <bodhi_zazen> boot
[21:18] <ghostofmybrain_> bodhi_zazen: cool deal, thank you
[21:19] <bodhi_zazen> np ghostofmybrain_
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> oops
[21:21] <bodhi_zazen> root=/dev/sda1 , forgot the leading /
[21:24] <katycorp> ok I got the version numbers for initrd and vmlinuz
[21:24] <katycorp> can I get back into to grub prompt from here or do I have to reboot?
[21:24] <bodhi_zazen> reboot
[21:28] <katycorp> I hit escape from the livecd menu and entered set root=(hd0,1) and it said it could not find the kernel image
[21:29] <bodhi_zazen> you at the grub prompt ?
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> I would boot to the hard drive
[21:30] <bodhi_zazen> not the live CD
[21:31] <katycorp> ok, I thought I could use a shortcut, it takes forever to fail and then drop to the grub rescue prompt
[21:32] <bodhi_zazen> Well, when it boots to the HD you should in theory be able to hit the esc key
[21:37] <katycorp> ok uhh, it says unknown commend "linux"
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> did the set command go OK ?
[21:38] <AJH101> hello my webcam works with cheese but not with skype - can anyone make snse of the last post on the support page? http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=465281
[21:38] <katycorp> bodhi_zazen: I entered: linux vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> did you misspelll linux ?
[21:38] <katycorp> yeah the set command worked fine
[21:38] <bodhi_zazen> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=/dev/sda1
[21:38] <katycorp> sorry, that is what I entered
[21:38] <katycorp> with the /boot prefix
[21:40] <bodhi_zazen> you sure you spelt linux correctly ?
[21:40] <bodhi_zazen> lol
[21:40] <katycorp> yeah
[21:41] <bodhi_zazen> did you check the integrity of your iso or the quality of your burn ?
[21:42] <katycorp> I verified the disc while writing and checked the disk before I installed
[21:42] <AJH101> hi guys anone know anything about skype on ubuntu?
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> I am sorry, I am at a loss to explain why  the linux command did not work
[21:42] <bodhi_zazen> you can try re-booting
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> and rather then droping to a command line, edit the grub lines
[21:43] <katycorp> I have another hard drive, maybe I will stick that one in and give it a shot
[21:43] <katycorp> maybe the hard drive is bad?
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> again you should in theory be able to do this by hitting the esc key
[21:43] <katycorp> :-\
[21:43] <bodhi_zazen> you could check the cables and HD, but it mounts in a live CD
[21:46] <katycorp> well thanks for the help anyway
[21:46] <katycorp> I think I have to go do something else for a while so I don't throw that computer out of the window
[21:46] <bodhi_zazen> AJH101: looks like you are having problems with skype, again I suggest you post on the skype forums as your issue is very application specific and Ubuntu seems to recognize you camera, in cheese ;P
[21:47] <AJH101> oops yes sorry will do :-)
[21:48] <bodhi_zazen> looks like I scared AKH101 off, lol
[21:49] <switchgirl> hi
[21:49] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo switchgirl
[21:49] <Bodsda> hi switchgirl
[21:49]  * switchgirl wants to stream music via daap to itunes on a mac over the internet can you help?
[21:50]  * bodhi_zazen head explodes
[21:51] <bodhi_zazen> switchgirl: do you have a how to you are following ?
[21:51] <Bodsda> switchgirl: From Itunes on one mac, to Itunes on another mac?
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> http://www.oreillynet.com/xml/blog/2004/12/streaming_itunes_from_ubuntu.html
[21:52] <bodhi_zazen> http://jamescanspel.blogspot.com/2009/08/setting-up-music-streaming-server-using.html
[21:53] <Bodsda> http://sevitz.com/2005/03/how_to_share_your_music_via_itunes_on_the_net
[21:53] <Bodsda> lol
[21:55] <switchgirl> thanks
[21:57] <katycorp> switchgirl: if you're using rhythmbox it's edit -> plugins -> DAAP music sharing, make sure the checkbox is checked and then hit the configure button to share your music
[22:24] <katycorp> bodhi_zazen: the other hard drive seemed to work fine, same disc
[22:25] <bodhi_zazen> sweet =)
[22:25] <bodhi_zazen> so hardware problem it appears
[22:25] <katycorp> yeah apparently so
[22:27] <bodhi_zazen> Ah, but look at all you learned =)
[22:29] <katycorp> heh I suppose, although nothing was successfully debugged
[22:30] <bodhi_zazen> not so
[22:31] <bodhi_zazen> it appears to be a hardware problem , and I do not think you can debug that with a software solution
[22:34] <switchgirl> katycorp: thanks that's saved me a bunch of pain
[22:34] <switchgirl> :)
[22:35]  * switchgirl gives katycorp a million fat free corn syrup free pizza's
[22:35] <switchgirl> thank you
[22:35] <katycorp> yay, finally a pizza without corn syrup
[22:36] <katycorp> your welcome
[22:39] <katycorp> wow I just spent 25 minutes looking around my apartment for the little antenna that goes with the wireless adapter in the desktop I just set up with ubuntu
[22:39] <katycorp> I actually put it in the box it came in
[22:39] <katycorp> who does that?! it makes it impossible to find anything
[22:40] <phillw> katycorp: that woukld make sense ;-)
[22:40] <switchgirl> katycorp: one question lan or http://
[22:40] <switchgirl> ?
[22:41] <katycorp> switchgirl: not exactly sure what you mean but DAAP is generally used for sharing music over a local network
[22:41] <switchgirl> oh :(
[22:41] <switchgirl> i need it over http://
[22:42] <switchgirl> or tcp / ip
[22:42] <switchgirl> ie teh internetz
[22:42] <katycorp> yeah that's a bit more involved
[22:42] <switchgirl> from edinburgh uk to norwich
[22:42] <katycorp> you could always turn your computer into a webserver
[22:44] <switchgirl> http://www.damonkohler.com/2009/01/rhythmbox-shout2send-plugin.html
[22:44] <switchgirl> would that work?
[22:44] <switchgirl> :s
[22:45] <switchgirl> i mean it says ogg i have mp3
[22:46] <katycorp> well it looks like he actually has a webserver set up
[22:46] <katycorp> and is using icecast to stream his content
[22:47] <katycorp> the plugin is just some code that streams whatever is currently playing in his rhythmbox instance
[22:47] <katycorp> I mean that would work but you have to realize it's more involved than just installing the plugin
[22:47] <switchgirl> i dont want it via ssh
[22:47] <katycorp> you need a webserver running icecast as well (it appears)
[22:47] <switchgirl> as the technophobe woud freak
[22:51] <katycorp> icecast isn't via ssh, it's a webserver. You'd need some knowhow of web hosting/setup probably
[22:51] <katycorp> they also have an irc room: #icecast
[23:04] <ZachK_> welcome sttal
[23:11] <C-Ray> hey
[23:11] <C-Ray> am searching for a piano simulator under ubuntu... any suggestions?
[23:11] <C-Ray> please
[23:11] <ZachK_> C-Ray: one minute my mahn
[23:12] <ZachK_> C-Ray: what ubuntu version are you using?
[23:12] <C-Ray> 9.10
[23:12] <C-Ray> ...
[23:13] <ZachK_> C-Ray: ok....while i research some look under the software center... :)
[23:14] <C-Ray> i looked but no use
[23:14] <ZachK_> C-Ray: ok well let me look up your question and I'll let you know in one minute ok?
[23:14] <C-Ray> ok
[23:19] <C-Ray> what happened
[23:19] <C-Ray> ?
[23:20] <ZachK_> C-Ray: have patience....i know that it may take some time but i'm still looking...
[23:21] <C-Ray> ok
[23:21] <C-Ray> thanks
[23:30] <ZachK_> C-Ray: I apologize but I've not found anything that looks like it would help you out
[23:30] <C-Ray> ok
[23:30] <ZachK_> C-Ray: I'd suggest searching the forums and googling but that's all I got...
[23:30] <ZachK_> C-Ray: anything else you need help with?
[23:30] <ZachK_> C-Ray: I'm here ifin ya do
[23:43] <C-Ray> thanks man
[23:43] <C-Ray> bye for now
[23:46] <ZachK_> wb nigelb
[23:58] <cprofitt> 19:30 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- [#ubuntu-us] Welcome to the US Teams  Mentoring Project. If you are here for support, you will probably get  better help and exposure at #ubuntu rather than here. We are a  channel focused on building LoCo teams in the United States. Feel  free to hang out.


[02:48] <Bashing-om> Do we want to report libreoffice-6-1 Bug hunting session ?
[02:53] <krytarik> Sounds report-worthy.
[02:55] <Bashing-om> krytarik: k^ ... and not seen a wildman to relay :(
[02:56] <krytarik> Yeah, indeed.
[03:56] <krytarik> Bashing-om: Please stop putting stuff in the header of the GDoc, which I then have move into the proper section.. >_>
[04:04] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Lemme look at what I did and then we discuss my errors for correction .
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Gotts to be away .. brother-in-law stranded . Back soonest I can .
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Back to work .. See what I can do now .


[00:04] <nalioth> be patient?
[00:04] <nalioth> pwnguin: have you been to http://launchpad.com/~jldugger  lately?  you seem to have been hijacked
[00:06] <nalioth> freenode recommends setting up your nick in this fashion: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup pwnguin
[00:11] <pwnguin> buh
[00:12] <pwnguin> .net
[00:12] <pwnguin> you're right, i should probaly link this to the master account
[00:13] <nalioth> pwnguin: if you want a cloak, you'll need to make sure you're set up as the instructions show
[00:14] <pwnguin> ok
[00:14] <pwnguin> i have jldugger set up like that, but not pwnguin.
[00:15] <pwnguin> its been so long ago that i hadn't thought about it
[00:18] <nalioth> jldugger: so which nick do you want the cloak on?
[00:18] <jldugger> im not sure yet =/
[00:19] <jldugger> pwnguin probably
[00:19] <jldugger> but im wondering if i should link/group jldugger and pwnguin
[00:20] <nalioth> you can always unlink them
[00:21] <pwnguin> hmm
[00:21] <pwnguin> seems i need to unregister one of them before i link em
[00:25] <pwnguin> ok
[00:25] <pwnguin> the account is jldugger
[00:35] <pwnguin> thank you very much
[02:23] <chuckf> is there anyone about that I can talk to about getting an IRC cloak as an Ubuntu member?
[03:22] <nalioth> chuckf: what is your launchpad page?
[03:28] <chuckf> nalioth, https://launchpad.net/~chuckfrain
[03:42] <chuckf> thanks nalioth
[03:43] <nalioth> you are welcome.
[15:49] <erUSUL> why on earth would a openssl security update require a reboot???
[17:10] <Nafallo> erUSUL: because many open programs using those shared libraries, and it's easier to catch them all with a reboot rather than going through ps and trying to figure out which of them it is.
[17:11] <Nafallo> also, kind of wrong channel :-)
[17:12] <erUSUL> Nafallo: fair enough . Well this channell is kind of my "rant dumpster" i do not like to have 20th ubuntu-* channels open XD
[17:12] <erUSUL> Nafallo: and i usually get a good response ;P thanks
[18:26] <no0tic> hi everybody, did anyone of you heard from LjL lately?
[18:31] <jpds> Nope.
[18:32] <jpds> He's disappeared off the internet.
[18:32] <no0tic> jpds, hi! I had to whois you to recognize you!
[18:32] <jpds> :)
[18:32] <jpds> hi no0tic!
[18:33] <no0tic> jpds, I sent him an email about a month ago and he didn't reply...
[18:34] <jpds> no0tic: Well, we havne't seen him in ages...
[18:34] <no0tic> he resigned
[18:34] <nalioth> no0tic: say what?
[18:34] <jpds> resigned from?
[18:35] <no0tic> nalioth, no, I was wondering where LjL was
[18:36] <no0tic> jpds, it was a joke.. I didn't heard anything about him in the last months
[18:36] <nalioth> no0tic: you should be careful of how you say stuff ( that's how nasty rumors get started )
[18:36] <no0tic> nalioth, you're right, I missed a "?" or a ":)"
[18:36] <jpds> "Careless talk costs lives" -- The Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy.
[18:37] <no0tic> jpds, 42.
[18:37] <jpds> no0tic: that too.
[18:37] <no0tic> ok, thanks anyway.. I hope to hear from him sooner or later
[18:37] <jpds> Hmm, "Careless talk costs 42"
[18:38] <no0tic> nice
[18:38] <jpds> no0tic: but 42 what I wonder..
[18:38] <jpds> no0tic: I think he's having a holiday from IRC..
[18:39] <no0tic> I long one, probably he's really busy with the university
[18:39] <no0tic> jpds, did you know that _I_ resigned from -it ops team?
[18:40] <nalioth> no0tic: he was here just a couple of days ago
[18:40] <jpds> no0tic: yeah. You told me.
[18:41] <no0tic> nalioth, ah, ok
[21:09] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hial
[21:09] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hail*
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> lol
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> quantos canais
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> minha barra de buffers do weechat está lotada
[21:10] <GuilhermeCunha> abuse of power from UdontKnow
[21:10] <PriceChild> GuilhermeCunha: where?
[21:10] <GuilhermeCunha> on ubuntu-br
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hi again PriceChild
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> how many time
[21:10] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :P
[21:15] <PriceChild> Kamus_H_Zwisch: is there anything I can help you with?
[21:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> no
[21:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> I was just watching guilhermechunha PriceChild
[21:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :)
[21:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> and saying hello to you
[21:17] <PriceChild> For anyone reading this, I just took a quick look at udontknow's latest action, spoke to him, and don't see any reason to look into things further unless guilhermecunha returns and explains things.
[21:17] <PriceChild> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Why the interest in guilhermechunha?
[21:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> PriceChild: I was in the same channel when udk banned guilhermecunha. I'm very curious :)
[21:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> so, I followed him
[21:19] <PriceChild> Kamus_H_Zwisch: make a habbit of it?
[21:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> uhh, no?
[21:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> why PriceChild?
[21:22] <PriceChild> I'm just a curious person.
[21:22] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hahaha
[21:22] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> I like you
[21:22] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :P


[00:03] <cjwatson> cyphermox: any such argument (about db_subst for branding) would be demonstrably wrong: that can't handle the subtleties of localisation (my stock example is "a Debian image" vs. "an Ubuntu image", but obviously there are many others)


[00:39] <Logan_> lol, Vivid is already open?
[00:39] <Logan_> that's a quick turnaround
[00:59] <tumbleweed> not open yet, in freeze
[03:43] <slangasek> stgraber: wat. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers?action=diff&rev2=94&rev1=93 :)
[10:50] <Riddell> our torrrent files are really the iso files
[10:50] <Riddell> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[10:50] <Riddell> anyone know anything about those files?
[10:51] <Riddell> or maybe a task for sysadmins?
[10:53] <cjwatson> I think possibly sysadmin screwed up cloudfront redirects?  They're fine on the master system
[10:53] <cjwatson> cdimage@nusakan:~/cdimage/www$ file full/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso*
[10:53] <cjwatson> full/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso:         # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Kubuntu 14.10 i386              ' (bootable)
[10:53] <cjwatson> full/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent: BitTorrent file
[10:53] <cjwatson> full/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/kubuntu-14.10-desktop-i386.iso.zsync:   data
[10:53] <cjwatson> Can you wait a couple of hours until I'm in work properly and can track this down?
[13:05] <Mirv> unity 7.2.3+14.04.20140826-0ubuntu1 for trusty has had the last verifications done a few days ago. all in all 30 days in -proposed.
[13:11] <Riddell> cjwatson: I worked out that if you swap utopic for 14.10 in that torrent url it works so updated the website for that
[16:43] <wxlS5> We don't have any products in the daily manifest. Is that something you guys take care of or is that a flavor job?
[17:09] <teward> anyone on the SRU team I can poke/bother/annoy/question regarding a specific bug and whether or not it's even remotely SRUable?
[17:17] <rbasak> teward: don't ask to ask, etc.
[17:19] <teward> rbasak: true.  :P
[17:20] <teward> bah i have to find the bug again
[17:21] <teward> anyways, the default nginx configuration file has the SSL section commented out, but has SSLv3 in its ssl_protocols line for the example config.  While a lot of new users just uncomment those sections and use them as is, they usually don't change much there.  To that end, they open themselves up to the POODLE vuln.
[17:21] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1383379 was the bug I filed for this
[17:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1383379 in nginx (Ubuntu Trusty) "nginx default config has SSLv3 enabled, makes sites using default config options vulnerable to POODLE" [Undecided,New]
[17:21] <teward> sec team said to check with SRU team for Trusty and Precise as to whether it gets included or even addressed
[17:21] <teward> (mdeslaur uploaded nginx to utopic that makes the change in the default configs, though, last minute, which was accepted)
[17:22] <teward> looking for guidance on whether SRU team would accept or not.
[17:22] <rbasak> One catch is that this will cause a conffile prompt when users pick up this update.
[17:23] <rbasak> (if they commented the section out, then that constitutes a change that dpkg won't want to overwrite)
[17:23] <teward> rbasak: +1
[17:23] <teward> that is a consideration point
[17:24] <rbasak> If a user doesn't already have SSL enabled (no conffile change), then I think the user is less likely to enable it in the future.
[17:24] <teward> to that end, if the decision is to NOT support the upload, and make the bug "won't fix" or something, that's fine, I blogged about the issue
[17:24] <teward> (and that's already aggregated on planet.u.c, and available to the world for recommendation of disabling SSLv3)
[17:24] <rbasak> If the user _has_ enabled SSL (conffile change), then the user will get a prompt. Which may be a reasonable thing to do, except that the user won't have any hint of _why_ he has the conffile prompt.
[17:25] <rbasak> (and the prompt will appear as just a change in a comment)


[20:17] <scootergrisen> Can launchpad be translated?
[20:18] <scootergrisen> https://translations.launchpad.net/launchpad says "Launchpad itself does not translate its messages."