[00:00] <bazhang> !repeat | dnf0sq
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> aaron_, Yeah, I have a degree in black studies it has a depth of meaning for me.
[00:02] <styles_> I installed Windows 8 AFTER Ubuntu. I have a boot partition. After the windows 8 install disc wanted to restart, it goes straight to grub and never completes the installation. What's exactly going on here?
[00:03] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Probably just install the W8 bootloader in the mbr, Windows should be in the first partitions and at the least the boot partition in a primary.
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> styles_, UPdate-grub might pick up the W8 and just boot to it to finish.
[00:04] <styles_> wilee-nilee, I tried. I went to recovery and rebuilt the mbr ect.. 1 sec I'll get more info
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> update-grub*
[00:04] <malv> Are there any riot tracking apps for Ubuntu?
[00:04] <styles_> wilee-nilee, it does find it, but it doesn't add it
[00:04] <Guest20028> nautilus extensions does not work.how should i fix this?
[00:04] <malv> I need to know where the black people are going to be tonight
[00:04] <arif41_> is there any app like bitvise ?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Are you in ubuntu right now, can I see a screenshot of gparted, which may need installing?
[00:05] <wilee-nilee> in a imagebin
[00:05] <styles_> wilee-nilee, yeah 1 sec
[00:06] <styles_> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872640/
[00:07] <styles_> I should mention I've tried boot-repair via live cd, it does pickup the windows installation but it never adds it to grub. Nor does update-grub (but they do detect it). I'm assuming it's because windows isn't finished installing
[00:08] <styles_> http://i.imgur.com/uSrhcoi.png
[00:09] <mdel> any idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings
[00:09] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Ah the wonderful UEFI, lol, I'm not really up on it, but we have some links, and once in a great while there is solid help here on it, but most often the ubuntu forum is the best place with an author of this thread m-f US daytime.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[00:10] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | styles_ Here is the bots.
[00:10] <styles_> God I freaking hate UEFI
[00:10] <James_Epp> I'm looking for a distro based off Ubuntu that has really good out-of-box video driver support. (I'm running three monitors, and it isn't too co-operative :S)
[00:10] <styles_> I've read a lot about it. I do have it disabled in my mobo, ect.. the /boot partition DOES have the windows bootloader AND grub in it (looking now) BUT grub is activated
[00:11] <bekks> James_Epp: Why not using ubuntu and installing and configuring the graphics driver?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> styles_, I'm avoiding it, I can fix most boot things, however the uefi is different per manufacturers release, I want to live a long happy life. ;)
[00:11] <James_Epp> bekks: I'm not crazy about stock Ubuntu :S
[00:11] <styles_> I was under the assumption grub would have been overwritten by windows
[00:11] <styles_> wilee-nilee, I'm crying inside since I've bought this new mobo it's been nothing but UEFI troubles
[00:11] <styles_> I will hands down never buy one with UEFI again
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Looks like a uefi install on a msdos setup am I correct?
[00:12] <James_Epp> styles_ that may be difficult in a few years :(
[00:12] <styles_> James_Epp, I know :(
[00:12] <Guest20028> nautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.2
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, I have W8 dualbooted in standard msdos
[00:12] <styles_> wilee-nilee, yeah
[00:13] <styles_> I wonder if I force EFI to be on if grub will gtfo and windows will do it's thing o.O
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> styles_, No boot partition here as well, I made a ntfs, with a boot flag, and just did the manual install from W8
[00:14] <styles_> See I did that, I think W8 though the NTFS partition was my whole disk or something. (Not knowning wtf grub and /boot was). I did switch the flags to the NTFS but the boot parition is still taking over
[00:14] <styles_> Just curious, on a boot parition what specifies the inital startup for the disk
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> styles_, Actually I'm mistaken mine does have a boot partition, sorry, I let it build itself from custom, but on a regular msdos formatted HD with 3 other linux on already.
[00:16] <occ> ok i found a potential fix, adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1" to the file: /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf , which i done..... now i am supposed to run the command "rmmod ath9k modprobe -b ath9k" except this says error "-b" not a valid parameter.... any ideas what it should be?
[00:16] <occ> this is to fix the wifi that keeps disconnecting
[00:17] <styles_> wilee-nilee, ah, well let me try this (update-grub might have worked god knows) thanks again wilee-nilee for your help let's cross out fingers :P
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[00:17] <occ> also i cant try the other fix because the webpage http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable#compat-wireless_3.6_stable_releases -all the download links are empty? -they all say file not found
[00:17] <dattry> nautilus extensions does not work i am using nautilus version 3.4.2
[00:18] <th0r> Occ: try jus modprobe athp9k, that should reload the module
[00:18] <occ> th0r with the rmmod first?
[00:18] <mouseguy> is there any way i can force ubuntu 13.04 to use kernel 3.2?
[00:19] <th0r> Occ: that is two separate commands...first rmmod, then modprobe
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> mouseguy, I would think it is a install it and choose it at grub, however why?
[00:19] <mouseguy> my mouse problem (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=156923)
[00:20] <mouseguy> only appears in kernel 3.3+
[00:20] <mouseguy> do i lose any functionality or security by using an older kernel?
[00:21] <dattry> message me one
[00:22] <occ> hmmm.... "rmmod ath9k" worked, but then "modprobe ath9k" returns: FATAL error inserting ath9k (/lib/modules/3.2.0-37-lowlatency/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath9k/ath9k,ko):unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter(see dmesg)
[00:23] <mouseguy> is there a detailed guide on how to install a different kernel to be able to choose in grub?
[00:23] <th0r> Occ: one of the parameters in the new modprobe.d file is probably wrong
[00:24] <occ> yeh, the step before this in the fix was to add : options ath9k nohwcrypt=1 blink=1 btcoex_enable=1 enable_diversity=1, to a file............ i have just removed this line now and modprobe works
[00:24] <occ> i guess this alleged fix dosnt work for me
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> mouseguy, Are you registered with freenode, if you are you might try ##linux as well.
[00:25] <Dr_willis> mouseguy,  see what other kernels are in the repos for yoru release. or see the !kernel factoid
[00:25] <th0r> occ: you might take out those parameters one at a time to see which is bad...but tht is no guarantee the others will help
[00:25] <Dr_willis> !kernel | mouseguy
[00:25] <occ> it has reconneced now.... now it will disconnect and all my computers will disconnect...
[00:25] <occ> ok thor ill try
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Your back I was wondering what was going on. ;)
[00:26] <Dr_willis> mouseguy,  its very possible a newer kernel may fix any known bug/regressions
[00:26] <Rallias> With cron, if a job takes more than a minnute will it affect other jobs in ways besides CPU availability?
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> the world just seemed different
[00:26] <mouseguy> Dr_willis, wilee-nilee, thank you guys, ill try your suggestions
[00:26] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  vacation.  :)  4000+ Miles of driveing an rv..  and text/irc while driveing is a big No no. (this is a Public service anouncement)
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> heh, hope it was fun.
[00:29] <aaron_> guys write me something to see if the notification  plugin works
[00:29] <th0r> aaron_: no
[00:30] <aaron_> th0r, one time again pls
[00:31] <th0r> aaron_: the first one didn't work?
[00:31] <aaron_> th0r, i should i have minimized i think
[00:31] <pc-2> Hi, I selected the encrypt my driver and home folder on the ubuntu install, does anyone know what kind of encryption it uses?
[00:33] <netrunner_> hello guys , i use pidgin to connect with my hotmail account , i can't receive pictures from hotmail account ? on of them send to me many times but here in pidgin i can't see anything
[00:34] <sb3997> /nick garry
[00:34] <kellydivine> any idea guys
[00:34] <occ> oh my god. i think i fixed it!
[00:34] <occ> *puts rope back in drawer*
[00:35] <occ> just adding "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" to the file  /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf, has made my wifi stable
[00:36] <David-A> Rallias: I don't think so. Processes run in parallell. (But if a process (started by cron or otherwise) explicitly locks a resource used by another process, it will of course affect it.)
[00:36] <Rallias> mmk.
[00:37] <Rallias> So my apt-mirror daily cronjob won't affect my other daily jobs?
[00:46] <badk1tty> meow.. i mean hello
[00:49] <badk1tty> anyone alive in here!?
[00:49] <nimdAHK> hi
[00:49] <badk1tty> hey
[00:50] <badk1tty> so whats up
[00:50] <nimdAHK> just making some strings at foragoodstrftime.com
[00:51] <badk1tty> thinkn you could answer a minor ? fur me?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> cept for the 12 webbed toes not much
[00:51] <badk1tty> lol
[00:51] <badk1tty> cute response
[00:54] <sam_> join #knightsoftheeasterncalculus vividred10outof10
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, Give us the lowdown on the problem. ;)
[00:55] <badk1tty> well i jsut installed 13.04 and i clicked by the encrypt home dir so i searched for a resolution and found a manual command in the terminal only when i ran the command the site says don't do this if your logged in to your current account ----
[00:56] <badk1tty> i was also looking for a history of commands lemme check my linux bible
[00:57] <badk1tty> i was basically just trying to encrypt the home directory after  i missed it on the install
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I'm not up on encryption, but the channel usually has those that are, here are a link regardless. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome#Encrypted_Home
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> s/are/is
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> Notice the older release info is all, for id relative info on your release
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> if*
[01:00] <badk1tty> i know RTFM i should know better
[01:01] <badk1tty> thats what i get fur bein in a hurry
[01:01] <badk1tty> thanks i appreciate it
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I just only have used truecrypt for my passwords is all.
[01:03] <badk1tty> is there a nix ver for that proggie?
[01:03] <badk1tty> *waits wiff anticipation*
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I use it in linux, you can do whole partitions and files, however the ubuntu repos have good stuff, and is supported here.
[01:04] <badk1tty> outstanding
[01:04] <vicsar> .
[01:05] <badk1tty> i was looking at Mint too have you used that distro?
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> truecrypt is closed source and 32rd party so a bit harder to get any help at all.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> 3rd lol
[01:05] <badk1tty> cryptography is never easy unless its cracked ... :)
[01:05] <mouseguy> hi, im trying to install gpm but "sudo apt-get install gpm" returns message: Package gpm is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I haven't but many like it, it is just ubuntu with some extras and forked desktops basically.
[01:06] <[jensen]> is Abelton worth trying to run under WINE, or should I stick with a VM?  I'm worried about support for the VSTs I use
[01:06] <badk1tty> so just another pretty face same base
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I think of it as ubuntu in drag. ;)
[01:06] <badk1tty> lol
[01:07] <badk1tty> well just htink how much fun im gonna have trying to get Autocad 2014 to run in nix
[01:07] <wilee-nilee> heh, earlier releases run I guess I have not needed it but checked it out.
[01:08] <badk1tty> what v of cad?
[01:08] <badk1tty> was that in wine?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, I'm mistaken it was a terminal math thing a friend run on apple, I forget the name.
[01:09] <badk1tty> wouldn't be matlab would it?
[01:09] <aguitel> how install google earth in 13.04
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> that it is. ;l)
[01:10] <badk1tty> :)
[01:10] <badk1tty> cool proggie
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, Shpould be a google download on the web.
[01:10] <badk1tty> kinda like a fourier transform
[01:10] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, ok
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, I see this though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/302135/google-earth-on-13-04-ubuntu
[01:11] <aguitel> thanks
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, No problem, google earth as I have see usually needs the stable to install i ubuntu.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> in*
[01:11] <aguitel> a ok
[01:12] <afsdf> how to check for disk error in ubuntu?
[01:12] <badk1tty> isn't there a bunch of stuff in the software section
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, There is a smart check in the menu called disks
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> disk manager or something they changed the name per release
[01:13] <badk1tty> cute
[01:13] <badk1tty> im still getting used to the window ctrls on the left
[01:14] <Daelm> has anybody heard of a method to get the 'tap to click' to work on the logitech t650 trackpads?
[01:16] <g_laas> fdgfdgdfgfsdfsdfsf
[01:16] <afsdf> i dont think i got 88g of data on my disk
[01:16] <afsdf> what's the best way to check for error ?
[01:17] <g_laas> test
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Daelm, here is one http://cmattoon.com/articles/logitech-t650-ubuntu.php and another http://askubuntu.com/search?q=logitech-t650
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, use the smart disk check that is on board
[01:18] <afsdf> that found nothing
[01:18] <badk1tty> btw thanks wilee
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, cool
[01:19] <afsdf> smart test is for checking bad sector
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> afsdf, "how to check for disk error in ubuntu?" hmmmmm
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> detials my son
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> badk1tty, No prob.
[01:22] <wilee-nilee> Daelm, From a quick glance it seems to work, however with limitations.
[01:24] <jonathan21> hola
[01:24] <jonathan21> alguien abla español?
[01:26] <Dr_willis> !es
[01:28] <afsdf> any partition repair tool in ubuntu
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[01:35] <afflicto> I just downloaded sublime text 2 and I added a sublime.desktop file but the icon I added doesn't show up. Does it need a specific image format? (it's PNG)
[01:37] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: It shouldn't need to be a specific filetype, but I think only JPG, BMP, GIF and SVG are supported... someone check me on that.
[01:38] <Dr_willis> I recall some guide on omgubuntu or webupd8 on setting up sublime witth a launcher/desktop file..
[01:38] <Dr_willis> but i dont use  the program.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> I would think a .desktop file can work with a png image.  the icon cache/menu cache may also take some time to rescan/reload.
[01:42] <Dr_willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/installing-sublime-text-in-ubuntu
[01:43] <aguitel> i installed google earth ,everything right but panoramio photos are blank ,any one know this?
[01:43] <fazza> hi:P
[01:44] <fazza> we have some new falcons
[01:44] <fazza> we bred them
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> fazza: How well do they PUNCH?
[01:44] <fazza> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539718856092205&l=13d60ed764
[01:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !ot | inb4, fazza
[01:44] <fazza> they are still minors :D
[01:44] <afflicto> SonikkuAmerica: ok, I found a package from webupd8 tho which made a desktop entry :P
[01:45] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: kk
[01:46] <afflicto> Is there an easy way to run an application from terminal but "outside" the terminal? so I can continue using the terminal for other tasks?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> afflicto,  command &
[01:47] <Dr_willis> bash job controll fundamentals
[01:47] <afflicto> Dr_willis: works great thanks :)
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: And after that, you can smash the terminal with the ^D hammer
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> afflicto: without killing all its child processes
[01:48] <Dr_willis> http://www.symkat.com/understanding-job-control-in-bash
[01:49] <tenguix> Chirp?
[01:49] <tenguix> Help please.
[01:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | tenguix: Penguins don't chirp
[01:50] <Dr_willis> details please...
[01:50] <linex> whts the best linex to ever be created?
[01:50] <Dr_willis> linex,  no idea what 'linex' is.....
[01:50] <tenguix> BIOS update [most likely] needs to be done.
[01:50] <falkenMaze> my boot is broke. can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> !best > linex
[01:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | tenguix: How do you figure?
[01:51] <tenguix> Is ubottu a bot?
[01:51] <tenguix> :)
[01:51] <Dr_willis> uBOTtu,
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !bot
[01:52] <tenguix> yes.
[01:52] <tenguix> Well. I figure cause out of nowhere, one day, a shutdown made my system hang forever.
[01:52] <tenguix> now it hangs forever, every time, no exception across any distro.
[01:52] <tenguix> Of linux, not just ubuntu.
[01:52] <Dr_willis> tenguix,  i dont see how hanging on shutdown - imples you need a bios update. which may or may not even exist..
[01:53] <tenguix> Well, I scavenged far and white for explanations.
[01:53] <tenguix> Found matching reports across other distros, regarding laptops. And the bios update was the only thing that worked for some people
[01:53] <Dr_willis> APCI/APIC/APM quirks in the bios/kernel, often fixable with some kernel boot options. - If you want to update your bios. then go for it.
[01:53] <tenguix> I know my bios is four plus versions out of date.
[01:54] <tenguix> I've tinkered with the bios and kernel, nothing has worked since the first time it hung.
[01:54] <Dr_willis> it would seem odd that it was working, then suddendly stopped.
[01:54] <tenguix> It does, yet it doesnt.
[01:54] <an0n> The network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?
[01:55] <tenguix> My sound card did the same thing, but it came back to life. This didnt resolve itself, its really the only thing I haven't been able to rewrite and rerun.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> sounds like you may be having deeper hardware issues tenguix . If it used to work. then no longer works and theres been no other changes.
[01:56] <tenguix> Yeah thats what I'm hoping against :)
[01:56] <tenguix> Is there a quick way to identify the offset of some bunk sectors?
[01:57] <tenguix> (bad sectors)..
[01:57] <Dr_willis> badblocks command perhaps. ive rarely had to fight with bad hds. ;) if they act up i replace them
[01:57] <tenguix> Every time I run a scan, badblocks doesnt find anything
[01:57] <tenguix> Only when I query SMART
[01:57] <an0n> The network-manager Ubuntu stores the password for that site?
[01:58] <tenguix> like, with udev and such
[01:58] <Dr_willis> an0n,  that questionmakes very little sence.
[01:58] <tenguix> or when I used to have a real ubuntu distro, and I used some gnome tool.
[01:58] <tenguix> I hate gnome.
[01:58] <tenguix> >:[
[01:58] <Dr_willis> the systemrescue live cd - has numerous disk and other trouble shooting tools.
[01:59] <tenguix> well, grumbles aside, I still am seeking some serious aid in this area.
[01:59] <David-A> tenguix: if a bad block is detected during write, the hd itself replaces the bad block and a scan afterwards wont find anything. SMART is a good way to monitor the hd status
[01:59] <an0n> Dr_willis: I wonder if the passwords stored by network-manager of the connections are made on disk?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> an0n,  i dont think network manager stores anything about the specific web sites the users goes to. thats not its job.
[02:00] <tenguix> Dr. Willis: are there any systemrescue images for modern kernels? And David: are there any ways to FIND the offset on the disk of said sectors?
[02:00] <Dr_willis> tenguix,  system rescue live cd homepage would say what kerneles its for. I imagine they keep up to date.
[02:00] <tenguix> My laptop seems to really, really like the newer kernels. AMD has chipped in a great deal since like, ubuntu 11
[02:01] <an0n> Dr_willis: In which place?
[02:03] <an0n> Dr_willis: When the user enters the password for connecting to a network using network-manager, this password is stored where?
[02:04] <tenguix> Thank you Willis
[02:04] <tenguix> Dr_willis: thank you.
[02:06] <moes> How to change launch command in an existing launcher
[02:06] <Governador> Alguem aqui que use Vmware no Ubuntu 13.04, depois que aparece o "txt" no terminal, qual o botão que pressiono para que avance a instalação?
[02:06] <tenguix> moes: each launcher should have a '.desktop' extension, the files are somewhere in '~/.config', usually
[02:07] <tenguix> you could do a 'find ~/.config |& grep '\.desktop$'
[02:07] <moes> tenguix, Thanks for the info
[02:08] <an0n> Dr_willis: I ask because I wonder if when the network password is changed and the user enters the new password if it replaces the old file and in the same position that it is hard disc?
[02:08] <tenguix> Willis
[02:08] <Governador> When I select the 'Suspend', the computer does not realize what was selected and goes to a black screen and stays there for minutes without shutting down or suspending. I have to press the power dial to turn off the notebook. Does anyone have any idea what it might be?
[02:08] <tenguix> OH MY GOD
[02:08] <tenguix> THATS WHAT HAPPENS TO ME
[02:08] <tenguix> GOVERNATOR
[02:08] <FloodBot1> tenguix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:10] <dopie> how do i upgrade to the new version of sublime text 2
[02:11] <shawn> hi guys I am having issues installing virtualbox. I tried installing the .deb from the virtualbox website and ever since I have been unable to remove or install the package properly even from the repository
[02:11] <shawn> any assistance would be great!
[02:11] <Dr_willis> dopie,  install it from the sublime web site would be my guess
[02:12] <shawn> Dr_willis do you ever get a day off?
[02:12] <Dr_willis> shawn,  just came back from 2 weeks of vacation.
[02:12] <shawn> Dr_willis thats great. I'm sure the community missed you
[02:14] <lifelike> dopie, the only way is through the website
[02:14] <David-A> tenguix: welcome back :) I don't know if there is a way to find which blocks the hd itself have mapped to replacement blocks. but there is no need to, that blocks need not be avoided in a mkfs or something, since they are good again.
[02:15] <shawn> hi guys, I know you are assisting others with their issues. Whenever my turn comes up, just let me know :) thanks guys! You are the best!
[02:15] <lifelike> dopie, you can use this guide for a neat Ubuntu install http://www.technoreply.com/how-to-install-sublime-text-2-on-ubuntu-12-04-unity/
[02:15] <austin_> hi
[02:15] <lifelike> shawn, ask away
[02:16] <David-A> tenguix: but if a bad block is detected during read, it will not be automatically remapped, and can be found using badblocks, that will report the block number.
[02:16] <austin_> hello
[02:16] <shawn> hi lifelike, as I stated earlier I tried installing virtualbox from the deb downloaded from oracle's website. Ever since I tried installing it, I have been unable to successfully remove or reinstall the application (or even run it!)
[02:17] <shawn> when I try to run: "sudo apt-get remove virtualbox-4.2"
[02:17] <lifelike> shawn: okay, how are you trying to execute it? Can you try running it form a terminal?
[02:18] <lifelike> shawn: since you installed it from a deb file it probably wont show in apt-get
[02:18] <lifelike> shawn: you would have to use dpkg
[02:18] <shawn> lifelike: running the command "virtualbox" from the terminal produces the output /usr/bin/virtualbox: line 1: $'\377\377
[02:18] <shawn> and the "\377" repeats itself a countless number of times
[02:19] <farsight> ....
[02:20] <lifelike> i'm guessing /usr/bin/virtualbox is a script then
[02:20] <lifelike> can you paste the contents in bpaste.net and link it here
[02:20] <shawn> I tried to run "sudo dpkg -r virtualbox-4.2"
[02:20] <shawn> sure
[02:20] <shawn> brb
[02:21] <shawn> http://bpaste.net/show/114185/
[02:21] <shawn> thats the output
[02:21] <shawn> okay as for the "\377" this is the output I was talking about earlier
[02:22] <lifelike> sorry I wasn't clear. I meant can you open the script /usr/bin/virtualbox and paste that contents in bpaste
[02:22] <shawn> sure
[02:22] <shawn> one moment
[02:23] <shawn> here you are: http://bpaste.net/show/114186/
[02:23] <crf> hi. what key do you use to select something in the Package Configuration. I thought "enter" worked. But it doesn't.
[02:23] <lifelike> try this: cat /usr/bin/virtualbox
[02:23] <lifelike> paste that contents
[02:23] <dopie> ok how do i force overite somethimg trying to move
[02:23] <dopie> sudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty
[02:24] <shawn> here you are (this is the output for "cat /usr/bin/virtualbox": http://bpaste.net/show/114187/
[02:26] <lifelike> shawn: okay, then it isn't a script..
[02:26] <lifelike> are you running 13.04?
[02:26] <shawn> yes
[02:27] <shawn> lifelike: i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu again.. 5th times a charm im sure
[02:27] <lifelike> shawn, hold on
[02:27] <lifelike> is this a 64 bit or 32 bit installation?
[02:28] <shawn> 64-bit
[02:28] <lifelike> virtualbox 4.2.12?
[02:28] <shawn> this is the package I obtained from oracle's website: virtualbox-4.2_4.2.16-86992~Ubuntu~raring_amd64.deb
[02:28] <dopie> sudo mv Sublime\ Text\ 2 /opt/   gives me mv: cannot move `Sublime Text 2' to `/opt/Sublime Text 2': Directory not empty  how do i force move everything
[02:29] <lifelike> dopie: force moving is mv -f , but take care with that flag
[02:29] <shawn> dopie sudo mv -f
[02:29] <dopie> hehehe
[02:29] <dopie> :)
[02:29] <dopie> thanks
[02:29] <shawn> dopie:
[02:30] <shawn> dopie: if you need to learn about a command try "man mv"
[02:30] <shawn> or "man (command here)"
[02:30] <shawn> if that makes sense
[02:30] <crf> ok. I see it is a program called "whiptail" that runs this package configuration dialog.
[02:30] <lifelike> shawn: so apparently there's a bug in the deb install of virtualbox which is causing that problem
[02:30] <lifelike> I just googled it
[02:30] <dopie> ahh ok
[02:30] <dopie> shawn,
[02:30] <shawn> lifelike: so next time I should try to just "sudo apt-get" i suppose
[02:31] <shawn> dopie: hi
[02:31] <dopie> oops
[02:31] <dopie> shawn, thank you
[02:31] <shawn> :( it wasnt me
[02:31] <shawn> lifelike: can you please link me to the kb you are reading this from?
[02:31] <lifelike> shawn: it's safer with apt-get
[02:32] <lifelike> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288835/virtualbox-4-2-12-installation-breaks-ubuntu-13-04-desktop
[02:32] <afflicto> I have a problem with apache2 I'm getting 403 forbidden. here's my sites-available/afflicto file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5872892/ thanks in advance
[02:32] <lifelike> not the same issue as you though
[02:32] <shawn> ah ok.. well ill reinstall ;) cant take too long
[02:32] <shawn> thanks for your help lifelike!
[02:32] <lifelike> follow this guide instead: http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/virtualization/install-virtualbox-4-2-on-ubuntu-13-04.html#axzz2Yz1G6tn7
[02:32] <shawn> you are the man!
[02:33] <lifelike> shawn: i highly doubt that :)
[02:33] <lifelike> thanks though!
[02:33] <shawn> lol cya guys
[02:34] <nbags> anyone used owncloud? is there something like this around that can do deduplication? or some way to make owncloud do it?
[02:35] <lifelike> nbags: what do you mean by deduplications?
[02:35] <lifelike> versioning?
[02:36] <nbags> lifelike: so like, if i move/rename a file, it won't reupload it again. and if i have 2 copies of the same file it won't store/upload 2 copies. like dropbox/gdrive, etc can handle. better still do it at block level...
[02:36] <lifelike> nbags, version history is the term you're looking for :)
[02:37] <crf> oh it's the space key.
[02:37] <lifelike> I've been monitoring owncloud for a while and version history is the only thing you're looking for, consider using git
[02:37] <gddsfg> is it possible to decrypt home directory wihout using extra space?
[02:37] <lifelike> nbagsall these applications like gdrive and dropbox are based on hit
[02:38] <gddsfg> decrypt home directory from terminal required  extra space
[02:38] <gddsfg> or is it possible to disable home folder encryption
[02:38] <SlimyWon> join #gcc
[02:38] <nbags> lifelike: can i mount git like a filesystem? and if i copy a file into it which already exists somewhere else in the tree, will it detect the hash and "upload" it instantly?
[02:40] <lifelike> nbags: git is *just* version control, are you looking for version control but without cloud storage?
[02:41] <lifelike> in which case I'd say owncloud might be the easiest way I can think off right now
[02:42] <Georwl> any russians here?
[02:43] <nbags> lifelike: no, looking for something like opencloud that has data de-duplication for uploads, and so is smart about moves/renames/copies
[02:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !ru > Georwl
[02:43] <nbags> s/opencloud/owncloud
[02:46] <kalakj> hello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem
[02:48] <lifelike> nbags: I recently came across this kickstarter campaign for a device called Plug: http://meetplug.com/kickstarter/
[02:48] <lifelike> Maybe something you'd be interested in?
[02:48] <kalakj> hello everyone, i have one problem, whenever i try to shut down, my laptop restarts, i recently updated UBuntu 12.04 LTS and there was also kernel update. Help me to solve that problem
[02:52] <F41L> Ok... so, still having this EFI issue. I've now downloaded rEFInd, and I get this "Error: UNsupported while loading iso9660_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading HFS_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading EXT2_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading ET4_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading tridrtgd_x64.efi, Error: UNsupported while loading btrs_x64.efi. * Hit any key to continue * "
[02:52] <F41L> Not sure where that puts me with trying to install ubuntu on this lattitude 10 TS2
[02:55] <benkong2> anyone got an idea why gdm would not be called at boot?
[02:55] <benkong2> my system boots to a black screen, I have to ctrl-alt-F1 then login and use startx and all is normal
[02:56] <benkong2> if I do sudo gdm from a terminal I get a warning that gdm is not running
[03:00] <Xaos> good evening all
[03:00] <Dr_willis> benkong2,  lightdm is the default. , and it would be 'sudo service lightdm restart' or 'gdm restart' to restart it
[03:00] <Dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm (or lightdm) to select the default *dm
[03:01] <benkong2> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[03:01] <Johnathon> Is it natural for a Lubuntu installation to freeze on "eGenerating locales en.US_UTF-8"?
[03:02] <Xaos> May I ask a quick question about installing Ubuntu?
[03:02] <saiarcot895> Johnathon: you might want to try #lubuntu instead
[03:03] <saiarcot895> Xaos: don't ask to ask; just ask
[03:03] <Johnathon> Oh sorry
[03:03] <Xaos> :-) was just being polite and waiting my turn.  didnt want to be pushy
[03:03] <saiarcot895> Xaos: that's fine :)
[03:04] <sarthor> HI, I changed the body of my laptop, and I only this is Harman/Kardon Toshiba laptop, How to know the exact model name of this laptop. Linux installed. HELP
[03:05] <Xaos> I am going to install it on my laptop.  Now from everything I read thus far, I will be able to dual boot.  Is this 100% accurate?  I don't want to lose windows, at least not just yet.
[03:06] <saiarcot895> Xaos: yes, if you make space for Ubuntu on a separate partition, you should be able to use Windows and Ubuntu
[03:06] <saiarcot895> sarthor: I don't think you can get the model name of your computer from Linux itself
[03:06] <somsip>  zzax  c /]l\~~555666y78op[03:06] <Dr_willis> Model Name? should be on a sticker on the laptop.
[03:07] <Xaos> Will the Ubuntu installation allow me to take free space from my existing partition and create a new one?  Or is that something I need to do with another third party program first?
[03:07] <Dr_willis> what chipset is IN the laptop is more imporntant for the most part
[03:07] <sarthor> Dr_willis: laptop body changed. No sticker remaining
[03:07] <Dr_willis> Xaos,  i find it easier/faster to have windows resize its own partions.
[03:07] <saiarcot895> Xaos: in addition, Disk Management in Windows might help
[03:08] <guitarHester> sarthor: what do you get from uname -a  ?
[03:08] <Xaos> ok, thanks for the info!
[03:09] <sarthor> guitarHester: Linux linux-mint-deb 3.2.0-4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.32-1 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:09] <guitarHester> hm, I didn't think you would get a straight model name from uname
[03:10] <guitarHester> how about   hostname?   ... don't print that here
[03:10] <guitarHester> But a lot of the time, the default hostname set by recent GNULinux OS will include the model number.
[03:11] <saiarcot895> sarthor: after googling, I found this: do "sudo lshw -C system"
[03:11] <guitarHester> Recently I installed 13.04 on a Dell D630, the default hostname turned out to be  something like   Dell-D630
[03:12] <guitarHester> saiarcot895: cool!
[03:12] <allaire> anybody use monit + upstart?
[03:12] <saiarcot895> guitarHester: I didn't realize Linux could get this much info from the hardware
[03:13] <guitarHester> lspci and lsmod have saved me so many times... makes sense there would be a "list hardware" command.
[03:16] <PepperoniPizza> saiarcot895, does not compute
[03:16] <saiarcot895> PepperoniPizza: the lshw?
[03:16] <sarthor> saiarcot895: yea. that worked. says PSAW0U-0FU033B
[03:16] <PepperoniPizza> saiarcot895, that you didn't think linux could find out about the hardware lol
[03:16] <qin_> guitarHester: lshw ?
[03:17] <guitarHester> PepperoniPizza: we were all new once; I'm still very new
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Good evening guys, I installed the Nvidia Drivers in Ubuntu 13.04 and now my TTY font is huge, do you know how to adjust the resolution?
[03:22] <falkenMaze> my boot is broke. it appears to be hanging at mounting the filesystem but fstab looks normal http://sprunge.us/gRQc  I can get to recovery mode and thats it. no really traceable error either.
[03:23] <zonne> is yoshi here
[03:24] <zonne> he better not be because if he is
[03:24] <zonne> it won't be pretty
[03:26] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, ran an fsck on the file system ?
[03:26] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza yes, zero errors
[03:26] <falkenMaze> fsck -f
[03:27] <afflicto> I'm trying to create a virtualhost so I can host my files in /home/afflicto/public_html/ but I keep getting 403 errors. I followed this guide: http://www.maketecheasier.com/install-and-configure-apache-in-ubuntu/2011/03/09 Please help, thanks.
[03:27] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, and if you boot a live-cd are you able to mount / to say /root to test it ?
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> maybe run a SMART check on the hard drive too
[03:28] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza yes, I am chrooted to the OS now
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hmm
[03:28] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, i'd def run a smart test on the HD to run out hardware issues
[03:28] <falkenMaze> it's a vm
[03:28] <falkenMaze> new
[03:29] <falkenMaze> migrate (rsynced) host
[03:29] <shawn> afflicto: are you sure you configured the .htaccess file correctly?
[03:29] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hmm  sorry no idea
[03:29] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, although the vm files do still live on a hard drive.
[03:30] <falkenMaze> the host is functioning perfectly.
[03:30] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, yea im grasping at straws since there isn't alot of info to go on
[03:31] <falkenMaze> It was runing and rebooting normally tile I upgraded from 10.something to 12.04
[03:32] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, well that is more info :-) seems like the upgrade broke something
[03:33] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, might be best to just do a fresh install of whatever version you plan on using
[03:33] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza I had just got grub2 working prior to the upgrade. I was trying to think ahead.
[03:36] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, hasn't grub 2 been standard for awhile
[03:36] <afflicto> shawn: .htaccess file? :S
[03:37] <falkenMaze> PepperoniPizza it had 0.97
[03:37] <PepperoniPizza> falkenMaze, i'd grab whatever data you need off the install and just do a fresh install of 12.10 or 13.04
[03:42] <Memnoch> I did a sudo apt-get install youtube-dl but sometimes the filenames it uses are a problem - i want to modify it - but I do not know where to look?   I'm on my phone.
[03:50] <Memnoch> I would like to apologise to pizza - I am just frustrated at this point and what I said was uncalled for.
[03:50] <wheatthin> it's not recommended
[03:50] <tomivs> wheatthin, Ok
[03:51] <tomivs> Anyway i want
[03:52] <tomivs> Does anyone help me?
[03:52] <falkenMaze> Memnoch the kernel is an i/o. you download the sources to /usr/src/linux and run 'make menuconfig' to get into it. that whole command line based gui is a tool that makes modifying the /usr/src/linux/.config a lot easier. manual edit is a pain in the butt.
[03:53] <wheatthin> tomivs, is there a reason for the new kernel?
[03:54] <tomivs> wheatthin, For better compatibility with hardware and update me
[03:54] <wheatthin> tomivs, which hardware isn't working?
[03:54] <tomivs> wheatthin, Monitor
[03:54] <falkenMaze> Memnoch your actual kernel file is typically /boot/vmlinuz-3.2~
[03:55] <tomivs> wheatthin, IBM e54
[03:55] <F41L> So I just don't think I can figure out how to get a 32bit efi booting Ubuntu install :(
[03:55] <F41L> I'm stuck with Windows 8
[03:55] <PepperoniPizza> tomaw, monitors are plug and play ?
[03:55] <PepperoniPizza> tomivs*
[03:55] <tomivs> PepperoniPizza, Yes
[03:55] <wheatthin> falkenMaze, not it isn't, the pointers are there lol
[03:55] <Alan___> Hi all.
[03:55] <wheatthin> kernel is located in /usr/src
[03:55] <falkenMaze> wheatthin depends on the os
[03:56] <Memnoch> why would i want to rebuild my kernel?
[03:56] <tomivs> wheatthin, ok
[03:57] <falkenMaze> sometimes its hidden in an unmount sda2 as /boot
[03:57] <Alan___> I am using a shared lan connection from my ubuntu box into my raspberry pi. It works great, but when I reboot, ubuntu decides that the shared connection is the primary one, and I have no internet till I delete that in the network manager. How can I make it keep it straight?
[03:57] <wheatthin> tomivs, and your monitor is plug n play, so there shouldn't be a need for it
[03:58] <tomivs> wheatthin, It looks very dark
[03:58] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, can't you just use ifdown eth0 or some such to put the interface down ?
[03:58] <wheatthin> tomivs, very dark? turn up the brightness
[03:58] <PepperoniPizza> and then use ifup eth0 to bring it back
[03:58] <tomivs> wheatthin, How to?
[03:58] <ryperface> wow...
[03:59] <tomivs> The dark tones do not look good
[03:59] <PepperoniPizza> not sure if serious, or a troll
[03:59] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I can do that, but I dont want to have to mess with it each time I reboot. Network manager should have some mechanism for remembering usage and device order
[03:59] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, no idea, I don't use network manager
[04:00] <tomivs> wheatthin, I have the brightness 100% configured in the monitor buttons
[04:00] <wheatthin> tomivs, are there different "modes" on your monitor?
[04:00] <tomivs> I think it's the video card
[04:00] <wheatthin> different temperatures
[04:01] <wheatthin> tomivs, what kind of graphics card do you have?
[04:02] <Alan___> It is a bit mystifying. eth0 is my onboard NIC and eth1 is a pci card. but no matter what I name the connection, it sorts it to first when I boot.
[04:02] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, sorts to what first ?
[04:03] <tomivs> wheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA
[04:03] <tomivs> Geforce G150SE nForce 430
[04:03] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, it always sorts the list(of 2 items) so that the shared connection between my computer and the raspberry pi is first. I end up with no outgoing lan connection because eth0 is ignored.
[04:04] <tomivs> wheatthin, Chipset NVIDIA Geforce G150SE nForce 430
[04:04] <Alan___> It works fine, it just gets confused at boot time.
[04:04] <wheatthin> tomivs, is your monitor backlit?
[04:04] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, hmm
[04:05] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, so, the lan to your raspberry pi is just so you can SSH in right ?
[04:05] <Alan___> Correct PepperoniPizza.
[04:06] <tomivs> wheatthin, I think yes
[04:06] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file
[04:08] <wheatthin> tomivs, did you install the nvidia driver?
[04:09] <tomivs> wheatthin, No
[04:09] <Alan___> Pepperoni. I think that is a good idea, but I am a loss where to start. I'm reading on it now. Thanks for your advice and attention. I now have some forward  momentum.
[04:09] <wheatthin> tomivs, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[04:09] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, i'd setup an /etc/network/interfaces file using a static IP for the network card going to the raspberry pi, do you use dhcp for your internet ?
[04:10] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, yes, the network connection application is using dhcp
[04:11] <mdel> any idea why my bluetooth headset would not work in ubuntu, even with it connected and the device seleced in the sound settings?
[04:11] <mdel> i just get nothing
[04:12] <kelly> hello guys , i want to access windows shared folder in ubuntu , i installed samba ststem-config-samba python-glade now when i open the file manager - network i can see all the folders sharing on the network but can't access them ! every time i open a folder there is an error message Unable to mount location , Failed to mount Windows share
[04:12] <afflicto> Ok, so I have set the owner of public_html to "www-data" so apache can access it. I also did sudo chmod -R 777 public_html && sudo chmod -R +x public_html still 403 error -,-
[04:12] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, if you give me all the info I can make an /etc/network/interfaces file for you to try
[04:12] <fasdsdf> how to remove encryption on home folder
[04:12] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I think that makes sense and gives me a handle on what to google. Ultimately I would like to present my raspberry pi to the router so that I can use my phone to ssh into the raspberry. Right now it is hidden behind my ubuntu box, but one step at a time. I think you have helped me a lot already. Thank you.
[04:13] <Alan___> It is important that I learn it, so thanks for the offer, but I will muddle through it. I'll break a virtual box connection learning.
[04:14] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, well the raspberry runs a linux based OS correct? So the *easiest* way would be to connect the raspberry to the router and use DHCP to grab an IP for it, then you can SSH to it from any device on your local network and even the internet if you forward port 22 to the ip of the raspberry
[04:15] <afflicto> Can someone please help me? I made a post here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17636389/apache2-virtualhost-403-forbidden
[04:15] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, that is correct(they are neat little devices). I had it directly connected before, but now I am out of reach for a second cable. I moved my office.
[04:16] <wheatthin> afflicto, did you try to set the directory properties in the virtual config for apache?
[04:17] <PepperoniPizza> Alan___, I have a 100 ft ethernet cord in my house you can get cheap ones from monoprice.com ;-)
[04:18] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, I do too, but I dont want one snaking across the floor. :) I am working on controlling RC servo motors and LED lights, so I need the Raspberry Pi in arms reach for the moment.
[04:18] <pupusera75c64> is there a cmd for dd to show status ?
[04:19] <wheatthin> --progress pupusera75c64
[04:19] <ryperface> pupusera75c64: killall -USR1 dd
[04:19] <pupusera75c64> dd --progress if=... ?
[04:19] <tomivs> wheatthin, The nvidia-current has been installed
[04:19] <Alan___> PepperoniPizza, this is a good thing to learn, but if it doesnt work well, I'll think about crawling in the crawl space and running a second lan cable. Thanks again, have a good day/night cycle. :P
[04:19] <afflicto> wheatthin: I don't know what you mean sorry :P
[04:20] <wheatthin> pupusera75c64, dd if=<statement> of=<statment --progress
[04:20] <pupusera75c64> thx
[04:20] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: dd doesn't have a --progress option.
[04:20] <wheatthin> jordan, it did last time I checked
[04:20] <fasdsdf> it just so damn amazing in ubuntu ....when a disk is full ....it lock you out
[04:20] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: No, it never has. I think you're confusing dd with rsync.
[04:21] <wheatthin> jordan, I've never used rsync.
[04:21] <ryperface> lol
[04:21] <wheatthin> lol
[04:21] <tomivs> wheatthin, Hey
[04:22] <Jordan_U> fasdsdf: Please watch your language and attitude. What problem are you having?
[04:22] <Diamondcite> fasdsdf: Lock you out? how do you run so out of space that the system locks you out?
[04:23] <wheatthin> fasdsdf, when your disk is full, it's hard to run any commands, it's true in any linux
[04:23] <wheatthin> tomivs, did you try setting it up in nvidia-settings?
[04:23] <Diamondcite> wheatthin: Doesn't the OS reserve 5% disk space for just root/system tasks?
[04:24] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: Actually a small amount of space is reserved for use only by root, for exactly this reason (so that you can log into recovery mode and delete files).
[04:24] <wheatthin> Diamondcite, nope.. when it's full, it's full
[04:24] <fasdsdf> wheatthin then it is not a good os if it does that
[04:24] <afflicto> I fixed it. I needed to chmod not only /home/afflicto/public_html but also /home/afflicto directory. LOL! this voodoo. finally after 3 hours!
[04:24] <falkenMaze> Diamondcite nope
[04:24] <fasdsdf> it must reserve some space so that user can log in and do something about it
[04:25] <kelly> any idea guys
[04:25] <qin_> fasdsdf: matter of interpretation, can you login to terminl in text mode?
[04:25] <ryperface> fasdsdf: you can, it's called single user mode.
[04:25] <Jordan_U> wheatthin: That's the second piece of incorrect information you've given in 5 minutes. I suggest that you be more carefull about making statents on areas you're not sure of, or at least check that you have your information correct first.
[04:25] <falkenMaze> fasdsdf proper technique, for just that reason is 3 partitions. swap root and home
[04:26] <qin_> pupusera75c64: you can just "ls -l" to watch dd work
[04:27] <fasdsdf> qin_ problem is you can't delete files when login in that way as the home directory is encrypted
[04:27] <wheatthin> excuse the hell out of me, and instead of going off in the public, why not consult me with a PM, then maybe It'd rectify the situation? instead... nevermind you're not worth it.
[04:28] <falkenMaze> qin_  this one comes with a counter  http://www.forensicswiki.org/wiki/Dcfldd
[04:28] <qin_> fasdsdf: is your /home/ encrypted?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> fasdsdf: You can mount an ecryptfs encrypted directory from recovery mode (assuming you know that user's login password). Let me find the relevant documentation.
[04:30]  * wheatthin hates uptight people
[04:30] <Diamondcite> Even on a full volume, won't a CONSOLE login still work? (Ctrl+alt+F1)
[04:32] <PepperoniPizza> Jordan_U, actually wheatthin was correct, I have a friend who filled up his disk so full he couldn't log in to ubuntu anymore and I had to delete some stuff
[04:32] <Network2501> mm
[04:32] <PepperoniPizza> he has done it more than once lol
[04:32] <Jordan_U> PepperoniPizza: I assume that you didn't try booting via recovery mode, because space is indeed reserved for use only by root.
[04:33] <qin_> PepperoniPizza: you can run linux pretty much from ram, hard drive would not matter...
[04:33] <PepperoniPizza> Jordan_U, I just booted a live-cd and deleted some crap and he was able to get in to xfce again
[04:34] <PepperoniPizza> qin_, what you are saying has no bearing on the info I provided, yes you could run linux in ram only if you had enough but that is not relevant to this discussion
[04:35] <Diamondcite> Graphical logins could break if the /home is full to user as temporary files needed for X authentication can't be made
[04:35] <Diamondcite> But a console login doesn't need any disk space.. it doesn't even need a /home to exist!
[04:35] <asdfsd> is there a way to decrypt home folder
[04:36] <PepperoniPizza> Diamondcite, thank you, that is what I was saying
[04:36] <qin_> PepperoniPizza: well, mean that you are able to solve issue of overhogged hd with of without live system.
[04:36] <asdfsd> not to another drive and folder
[04:36] <PepperoniPizza> qin_, I was a new user at that time and did not even know about ctrl+alt+f key to open a new tty
[04:37] <PepperoniPizza> so my solution was to boot a live-cd to fix it for him
[04:38] <wheatthin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/215505/how-do-you-monitor-the-progress-of-dd
[04:38] <rypervenche> asdfsd: Nope. It is an encrypted container.
[04:39] <asdfsd> rypervenche , noooooooooooooooooo ? no way to decrypt home folder to its own folder?
[04:39] <pupusera75c64> wheathin, --progress didnt work but the kill cmd
[04:39] <asdfsd> that's lame
[04:39] <falkenMaze> how do you break X11/xdm from the boot config?
[04:40] <rypervenche> asdfsd: I'm sure it's possible to move to another location, then make it a normal directory and move back, but nothing on the fly.
[04:40] <wheatthin> pupusera75c64, that's fine.. I was wrong for the first time in a long while.. Jordan_U shot me, oh well, glad the crude method worked
[04:40] <qin_> falkenMaze: you want to disable xdm?
[04:41] <rypervenche> pupusera75c64: ryper: 1   wheatthin: 0
[04:41] <falkenMaze> yes
[04:41] <pupusera75c64> hehe
[04:41] <pupusera75c64> k dd finisched, lets try
[04:42] <qin_> falkenMaze: in kernel line of grub (shift for menu, e for edit) replace "splash" with "text", booting with no x server at all ;)
[04:43] <wheatthin> I just wish people wouldn't get so uptight, they lose sight of any sort of mannors. It's alright to point out that I was wrong, which I admit, but to get blantently rude about it is uncalled for.
[04:43] <cogware> I'm trying to count the number of lines that fs_usage outputs in a single second. Anyone know how I can do this?
[04:44] <rypervenche> asdfsd: I never encrypt my home folder, I always do my full disk.
[04:44] <qin_> wheatthin: chill?
[04:44] <qin_> cogware: command |wc -n
[04:45] <wheatthin> like I said, it's not worth my time for others rudeness.
[04:45] <qin_> cogware: command |wc -l , sorry
[04:46] <cogware> qin_: fs_usage provides a constant real-time stream of filesystem activity, so if I just pipe it to wc, it will keep on going forever
[04:46] <undroidz> guys, I need help setting up ubuntu 10.04 (32-bit) inside a chroot jail. I have 12.04 (amd64) as the host system and debootstrap isn't installing apt/aptitude on it. I followed the wiki for debootstrap.
[04:46] <cogware> I need some way to terminate fs_usage after exactly 1 second, or to use grep or awk somehow to see when the timestamp switches over to the next second
[04:47] <qin_> cogware: well, strem to file, every 60 seconds replace log, count lines.
[04:47] <wheatthin> undroidz, ubuntu 10.04 is no longer supported
[04:47] <cogware> I tried that, but in less than 1 second it produced a 13mb file. I think that 1 second could easily be 130mb or 1.3g. It doesn't scale
[04:47] <qin_> cogware: every 1 second...
[04:47] <undroidz> ouch. yeah, just this april.
[04:50] <asdfsd> so no one got solution ?
[04:50] <falkenMaze> my computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.
[04:50] <tomas_> Hi
[04:50] <tomas_> I want
[04:51] <tomas_> Start the X
[04:51] <falkenMaze> tomas_ startx
[04:51] <twoeed> Hello.  I've got a bit of a firewall problem.
[04:51] <qin_> cogware: but is not fs_usage already time-stamped?
[04:51] <tomas_> falkenMaze: Ok i wll
[04:51] <twoeed> Apparently, it's not iptables
[04:51] <twoeed> or, I'm just setting something wrong.
[04:51] <qin_> tomas_: or xinit (pute x server)
[04:52] <cogware> It is... I want to figure out how to count the number of items that occured in a given second, say 21:49:49, and count them efficiently (i.e. without writing a record of everything to disk, but rather process it as a stream w/o buffering)
[04:52] <rypervenche> !ask | tomas_ twoeed
[04:52] <qin_> cogware: grep and wc
[04:52] <wheatthin> twoeed, ubuntu uses ufw by default, which might be easier than setting iptable commands
[04:52] <Arobaz> hii
[04:52] <cogware> Oh that is a good idea. That will work
[04:52] <cogware> Thank you
[04:52] <rypervenche> err, that was the wrong one. Please put your questions in one line so that it is easier for us to read :)
[04:52] <Arobaz> hii
[04:53] <Arobaz> need help for grub systeme.
[04:53] <wheatthin> !help | Arobaz
[04:53] <Arobaz> i can't move on the ground grub.
[04:53] <Arobaz> !patience
[04:53] <qin_> !enter > rypervenche right one
[04:53] <Arobaz> !enter > qin_ help!
[04:53] <rypervenche> qin_: Thanks :)
[04:54] <twoeed> wheatthin: Thanks, I'll look that up.  All my past firewall experience has been on CentOS.
[04:55] <wheatthin> twoeed, if you use a Gui.. install GUFW
[04:56] <rypervenche> twoeed: You can disable ufw and use iptables if you are more comfortable with it.
[04:56] <twoeed> wheatthin: Unfortunately, I'm not.  DuckDuckGoing vfw says it's a video codec.  could you direct me to a site for it?
[04:56] <twoeed> ryervenche: How?
[04:56] <qin_> !ufw
[04:56] <rypervenche> Does Ubuntu use systemd now?
[04:57] <twoeed> oh, ufw
[04:57] <twoeed> derp
[04:58] <qin_> rypervenche: http://tech.cueup.com/blog/2013/03/08/running-daemons/
[04:59] <rypervenche> qin_: I don't use Ubuntu, it was just so that I could answer twoeed's question :P
[04:59] <Arobaz> hey there
[04:59] <Arobaz> need help
[04:59] <Arobaz> some soutient
[04:59] <Arobaz> it is possible?
[05:00] <rypervenche> Un français. Yes, Arobaz we can help. Go ahead and ask your question.
[05:00] <wheatthin> !ask
[05:00] <Arobaz> Yes i'am ! rypervenche :p
[05:00] <Arobaz> I can't startx ubuntu, when i start i have only terminal mode no graphics
[05:00] <twoeed> I disabled ufw and the problem still occurs.  Perhaps I should describe my problem in more detail.
[05:01] <rypervenche> Arobaz: What kind of graphics card do you have? Is this a new installation?
[05:01] <Arobaz> yesterday i did a update drivers.
[05:01] <Arobaz> NVIDIA
[05:01] <twoeed> Basically, a friend and I are starting an irc channel for our server
[05:01] <qin_> rypervenche: upstart with some atavism of init
[05:01] <twoeed> We are using ubuntu server edition.
[05:01] <rypervenche> qin_: Ah that's right, it uses upstart now. Thanks.
[05:02] <twoeed> We got irc installed just fine.
[05:02] <twoeed> (we can connect to it locally)
[05:02] <Arobaz> rypervenche, Nvidia drivers i have a message when a try to start the kenel and drivers have not the same version.
[05:02] <twoeed> but it resets when I try to remotely.
[05:02] <Arobaz> kernel *
[05:02] <rypervenche> Arobaz: Yes, you'll need to have the module recompiled for your kernel.
[05:02] <twoeed> I at first thought the problem was iptables.
[05:02] <rypervenche> Umm...I don't know the command anymore for Ubuntu. Can someone help?
[05:02] <qin_> twoeed: pint one would be ircd config
[05:03] <Arobaz> rypervenche, it's possible to do that on CD try ?
[05:03] <twoeed> would it reset connections from foreign hosts by default?
[05:04] <Arobaz> rypervenche, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile that ?
[05:04] <rypervenche> Arobaz: No, let me see if I can find it for you. One sec.
[05:04] <benbloom> is defaults in the fstab just as a place saver for options? in otherwords, if I add some options, can I remove defaults as they are implied (unless counteracted by my options)?
[05:04] <Arobaz> thanks you rypervenche :)
[05:04] <sein> Guys, I'm on LM and I tried installing unity but it's not showing up on my session list (I'd ask in the LM support channel, but it's dead atm)
[05:05] <rypervenche> Arobaz: How did you install your Nvidia drivers?
[05:05] <qin_> twoeed: lets see: netstat -tulp (what does irc?)
[05:05] <Arobaz> rypervenche,  automaticly
[05:05] <rypervenche> Arobaz: Have you restarted the PC since the update?
[05:05] <Arobaz> yes more than 5 time.
[05:06] <twoeed> IRC's on port 5001.  It shows up in a netstat.
[05:06] <Arobaz> to try to access at my session.
[05:06] <twoeed> But you are right.
[05:06] <twoeed> I tried a python server on an arbitrary port, and it was open by default.
[05:06] <twoeed> It's not my firewall.
[05:06] <rypervenche> Arobaz: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:07] <twoeed> I'm using ircd-hybrid.
[05:07] <Arobaz> back.
[05:07] <Arobaz> sorry rypervenche
[05:07] <twoeed> Anybody know what I should change in the config file?
[05:08] <xangua> What is recomended to run java programs¿ openjdk6 or openjdk7¿
[05:08] <qin_> twoeed: what is "Local Address" of irc?
[05:10] <twoeed> It was <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:10] <twoeed> I changed it to the server's IP.
[05:10] <qin_> twoeed: bad, net address or ip in config
[05:10] <twoeed> I changed the conf ip to the server's net address.
[05:11] <twoeed> it was commented as "change this"
[05:11] <qin_> twoeed: hehe
[05:12] <twoeed> well poop.
[05:12] <twoeed> didn't work.
[05:12] <twoeed> I restarted the daemon and all
[05:12] <wheatthin> twoeed, net address or internal addy?
[05:13] <twoeed> The server has one network connection which specifies its full net address.
[05:13] <twoeed> It's not on a LAN.
[05:13] <wheatthin> ahh ok.
[05:14] <qin_> twoeed: can you access irc on lan?
[05:15] <twoeed> Server is not on LAN, but I can access it from localhost.
[05:15] <mastershake> hey guys im having trouble killing a process , it keeps coming back
[05:16] <mastershake> i was told to use stop but im recieving errors that it cannot find said job to stop
[05:16] <twoeed> damn, I hate config files.
[05:16] <qin_> twoeed: did you change anything in listen block of config?
[05:16] <qin_> mastershake: what process?
[05:17] <mastershake> dhclient
[05:17] <twoeed> yep.
[05:18] <qin_> twoeed: and what ip did you provide?
[05:18] <twoeed> The server's ip on eth0
[05:18] <twoeed> Which is it's external ip
[05:19] <Ben64> is there any fingerprint recognition stuff for ubuntu? I got a laptop with a fingerprint scanner built in
[05:20] <mastershake> qin_: any ideas?
[05:24] <mastershake> anybody know how to kill a process and stop it from coming back?
[05:24] <qin_> mastershake: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1419803 but I do not get idea of killing it, since if you configured static network it should not bother you
[05:24] <twoeed> Got it.
[05:24] <twoeed> I forgot I wasn't root when I restarted the daemon.
[05:24] <qin_> twoeed: Really?
[05:24] <falkenMaze> my computer boots and get to this point and freezes  http://i43.tinypic.com/df7xqe.png  fsck -f says the partition is fine, and I can chroot to the OS from a live cd, just can't boot.
[05:24] <twoeed> It was just the host thing.
[05:25] <twoeed> Thanks for all the help.
[05:26] <falkenMaze> mastershake first try kill -9 pid . if that fails, find the start command via ps and then grep -lir "command" / to find the file relaunching it.
[05:26] <twoeed> Now I've just got to finish editing the rest of that config file.
[05:26] <twoeed> securing my server and such.
[05:27] <twoeed> I took down so much firewall stuff troubleshooting this.
[05:27] <tomas_> My X don't start
[05:28] <tomas_> Somebody can help me?
[05:28] <twoeed> qin_: Just for reference, what is this "spoofing" about?
[05:29] <tomas_> Hello?
[05:29] <falkenMaze> twoeed becoming the secure person in a secure comm channel via a hacked id. like a mac address
[05:30] <ItsMeLenny> does X have its own default theme in case the desktop environment has no theme?
[05:30] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: yes
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> do you know how i can get it?
[05:31] <falkenMaze> ItsMeLenny windows uses the blue screen of death.
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> and how i can uninstall every other theme
[05:31] <ItsMeLenny> falkenMaze, lol
[05:31] <twoeed> falkenMaze: Ok.  It just hides IPs, instead of showing them to everyone like on this channel?
[05:31] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: you know it looks like crap right?
[05:31] <qin_> twoeed: it do not sound like anything good.
[05:32] <falkenMaze> twoeed I either pop out an id from you or force you to learn mine. Then I am authenticated.
[05:32] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: http://boundarydevices.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/spaceballs-1024x576.png like this but ignore the windows and panel
[05:32] <tomas_> I look regenerate xorg.conf
[05:33] <tomas_> My file /etc/X11/xorg.conf is wrong
[05:33] <qin_> falkenMaze: spoofing is not really cloaking
[05:33] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, looks good
[05:33] <falkenMaze> twoeed ip spoofing it tricking the router dhcp
[05:33] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: ok well it's on every system that has X installed you just need to select it or don't configure anything
[05:33] <falkenMaze> qin_ it's just gaining a secure communications channel.
[05:34] <twoeed> falkenMaze: ah
[05:34] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, thanks, i think ive got it
[05:35] <ping> Multisystem won't recognize USB, have tried to of them, shows up in the device window, but when click confirm won't accept it, nautilus is installed
[05:35] <qin_> falkenMaze: no, it is man it the middle form of attack, and also mirroring method for servers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARP_spoofing
[05:35] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, except the colours seem to go to what the last theme had as it's main colours, is there a default set of colours?
[05:35] <ping> to of them= two of them
[05:36] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, for example if my last theme was ambiance all the buttons highlight as orange, where as if my last theme was oxygen my buttons highlight as blue (with an orange border for some reason)
[05:36] <SuperLag> You can't unplug an unmounted SATA drive while the system is still booted, can you? (and not have issues)
[05:36] <falkenMaze> qin_ thats an ssl spoof, and you are gaining access to the ssl communications channel
[05:36] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, sure you can as long as it isn't the boot drive
[05:37] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: not sure on that, sounds like a bug
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, i'd make sure to unmount any partition on the drive that is mounted though
[05:37] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: and then plug in another SATA drive, and it'll just work?
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> or risk data corruption
[05:37] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, ah ok, no problems, although here is a massive problem, all my icons have gone to a generic page shape
[05:37] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, yes, they even make hotswap bays for SATA drives
[05:37] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: unplugging my hard drive where my VMs reside, and plugging the optical drive back in.
[05:37] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, oh, fixed it >_< thanks for the help!! :)
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, sure you could do that
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: right, but I don't think this is a hotswap bay. It's a ThinkPad W530 :)
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, I am a bit OCD my self about fooling with electronics while they are live with electricity though
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: yeah.... good point
[05:38] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, so it is a laptop ?
[05:38] <aeon-ltd> ItsMeLenny: no problem, i didn't really do much though :)
[05:38] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: yes
[05:39] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, so then, it only has one spot for an SATA hard drive, yes ?
[05:39] <ItsMeLenny> aeon-ltd, lol, you may not think so but you actually did :P
[05:40] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: I have 3 SATA drives in this thing. One where the drive normally goes. One where the optical normally goes, and an mSATA drive where you can also plug in a WWAN card. 1.1TB of usable space. 32GB of RAM, as well. :)
[05:40] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, wow my desktop only has 16gb lol
[05:40] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, yea, as long as the drive you are removing isn't being used / mounted it should be fine
[05:41] <PepperoniPizza> SATA is 100% hot swappable
[05:41] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: / is on the primary SATA, ~ is on the mSATA, and VMs are on the third drive, which is mounted to ~/Documents/vmware/
[05:41] <PepperoniPizza> yea just unmount it first then
[05:43] <SuperLag> wow
[05:44] <Arobaz> yeah
[05:44] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: the sky did not fall down
[05:44] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: dmesg did not show the system freaking out, either
[05:44] <SuperLag> and the CD works
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> of course
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> ;-)
[05:44] <SuperLag> not that I'd make a *habit* of hot-plugging and unplugging stuff
[05:44] <PepperoniPizza> yea, I'm not a fan of it
[05:45] <SuperLag> because I'm similarly OCD that way... but I didn't want to reboot at this point
[05:45] <PepperoniPizza> it is fine in theory though
[05:46] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, after you have done electrical work and blown chunks out of a metal screw driver you become more cautious about always unplugging power / discharging stuff ;-)
[05:46] <Kuroshita> is it possible to get 3d rendered games like tf2 working on ubuntu with the amd open source drivers?
[05:47] <aeon-ltd> Kuroshita: is there a reason you can't just switch drivers to play games?
[05:47] <Kuroshita> Nope, it's purely due to ease of management
[05:48] <hillary> my cdrom cannot read cd/dvd ubuntu 12.04
[05:48] <hillary> it stopped last week
[05:48] <aeon-ltd> hillary: does it work in other OSes?
[05:48] <hillary> yes
[05:48] <Kuroshita> You're going to want to ask a question hillary
[05:49] <hillary> i mean it used to read but it just stopped reading
[05:49] <makara> for xchat I have to provide the sound files it seems. Where can I find a library of appropriate sounds?
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> makara, You might like #xchat
[05:51] <karlmh> downloaded the iso image and its 766 mb, i'm using ubuntu now but it looks like the app i have doesnt want to overburn
[05:51] <aeon-ltd> karlmh: yeah it doesn't fit on cd
[05:52] <makara> wilee-nilee, thx
[05:52] <PepperoniPizza> karlmh, do you have a usb drive ?
[05:52] <Johnny_Linux> put it on a thumb drive
[05:53] <aeon-ltd> it'd be awesome if you could load the iso + bootloader into ram then reboot immediately into a linux enviro; too bad there are too many security risks
[05:53] <hillary> aeon-ltd yes it work in other oses
[05:53] <demiugr> Пацаны, я у вас поинтересуюсь? На винде был нормальный как бы скользящий тачпад synaptics, короче такой курсор как бы скользил по экрану. Поставил ubuntu - вроде ничего, но тачпад - параша! С каких настроек спрос взять? Где их сыскать? Может нада какое
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> !russian
[05:54] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, is THAT what it is?
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> cfhowlett: what?
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> is it ukrainian?
[05:54] <utfans05> maybe russian?
[05:55] <utfans05> looks kinda russian...
[05:55] <cfhowlett> aeon-ltd, I only see random glyphs so can't make out any kind of language ...
[05:55] <demiugr> Фигня выходит, пацанчики
[05:55] <demiugr> #ubuntu-ru Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[05:55] <hillary> is it hardware issue or a command interfearance by myself?
[05:55] <utfans05> nvm hes paskanstani
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> heh how are we going to do the register factoid in russian but in the english channel?
[05:56] <utfans05> Guys, I take an interest in you? On Windows as it was a normal sliding touchpad synaptics, shorter than a mouse as it slid across the screen. Put ubuntu - like anything, but the touchpad - stool! Since when setting demand to take? Where to find them? What can nada
[05:56] <demiugr> Кароче к нашим петушкам не попасть
[05:56] <utfans05> that was his original question
[05:56] <demiugr> гудбай товарищи буржуи
[05:56] <utfans05> adios
[05:57] <spyder> what pkg or method is used in ubuntu for bash completion?
[05:57] <utfans05> spyder: it should be there by default
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> hillary: i have no idea except watch 'dmesg' when you insert a cd
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> though i'm not even sure if dmesg works that way
[05:58] <spyder> utfans05: i am on another distro in another system and i want to use same bash completion in it
[05:59] <hillary> The cd is rotating and the light is flickering but not output
[05:59] <utfans05> spyder: which os?
[05:59] <spyder> utfans05: gentoo
[06:00] <utfans05> spyder: you may want to ask in the gentoo channel.
[06:00] <utfans05> #gentoo
[06:00] <karlmh> PepperoniPizza: looks like using cdrskin with -dao -force might just work ;)
[06:00] <karlmh> overburnning is actually pretty common
[06:00] <PepperoniPizza> karlmh, yea, it doesn't always work though
[06:01] <guest_____> whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:01] <spyder> utfans05: i know that i asked there and tried the suggestiond but did not get the completion where even second command in chain can be tab completed
[06:01] <spyder> eg torsocks midori
[06:01] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:01] <spyder> and midori can be tab completed
[06:01] <utfans05> spyder: hold on one sec, imma ask my friend who is really good at gentoo
[06:02] <cristian_c> I can't hear sound form speakers/headphone anymore
[06:02] <cristian_c> 12.04 precise
[06:02] <spyder> utfans05: ok
[06:02] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:03] <guest_____> whats analogs http://cfos.de having in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:03] <utfans05> spyder: just sent him your question. give him a few, hes messing around with some python scripting so it may be a few minutes.
[06:03] <spyder> utfans05: thanks
[06:03] <utfans05> guest_____: i dont understand what you're looking for.
[06:04] <guest_____> whats analog http://cfos.de exists in ubuntu?(most usuable gui traffic control and shaping)
[06:05] <utfans05> guest_____: i dont quite understand what your looking for. can you give us more details?
[06:05] <utfans05> are you looking for a graphical display of your network traffic? if so try conky
[06:06] <guest_____> go to this website please, i,m find alternative for linux
[06:06] <karlmh> bbl
[06:06] <guest_____> http://cfos.de
[06:07] <utfans05> i looked at it and it looks like you're looking for a graphical network traffic tool
[06:07] <utfans05> well... not really;.
[06:07] <guest_____> yes
[06:07] <utfans05> ok so your looking for graphical traffic display and not traffic shaping tool?
[06:08] <utfans05> spyder: try bash-completing
[06:08] <utfans05> spyder: try bash-completion
[06:10] <guest_____> utfans, thank you, i think it(traffic control and shaping) no exesist in gui, thanks for conky
[06:10] <guest_____> no exists fo linux
[06:11] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: excellent. Worked like a charm.
[06:11] <utfans05> guest_____: yeah im unsure if you can do traffic shaping in linux. id have to do some research but conky is really customizable and you can do a ton of monitoring with it.
[06:11] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: so... sound stuff. Is there a way to return the sound settings in Xubuntu to the defaults that were there on install?
[06:11] <utfans05> cpu, ram, swap, temps, network traffic. almost anything you want
[06:11] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, what do you mean exactly
[06:12] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: what source is used where, default volume levels... stuff like that
[06:12] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: experienced something tonight, and foolishly went monkeying with multiple settings at once
[06:13] <spyder> utfans05: ty
[06:13] <SuperLag> things still work... but I want to make sure everything is put back how it was
[06:13] <utfans05> spyder: your welcom
[06:13] <coolstar> where can I get arm-elf-gcc for ubuntu?
[06:14] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, well you can use pavucontrol or alsamixer
[06:14] <SuperLag> PepperoniPizza: alsamixer is what I used to adjust, so I'm familiar with it... but I'm not sure what all the defaults were
[06:14] <hillary> what command do i use to mount cd in ubuntu 12.04
[06:15] <SuperLag> hillary: mount
[06:15] <PepperoniPizza> SuperLag, well if everything works
[06:15] <SuperLag> hillary: ironically enough :)
[06:16] <hillary>  SuperLag am lost!
[06:17] <utfans05> hillary: sudo mount /dev/sr0 /cdrom
[06:17] <shutup> ?
[06:18] <utfans05> where sr0 is your cdrom
[06:18] <SuperLag> hillary: I'd be very surprised if it didn't automatically mount
[06:24] <afflicto> Is there a place/app to find extensions/plugins for Unity ? Like gnome-extensions. I'd like to have weather info at the top panel and maybe memory usage etc.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: you mean like indicators?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload | afflicto
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: apt-cache search indicator (from terminal) for more cool indicators
[06:29] <utfans05> spyder: did that work out for you?
[06:33] <afflicto> Cool, thanks guys.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> afflicto: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/05/list-of-22-application-indicators-for.html
[06:34] <DarkFox> How exactly is wubi working? Anyone here worked on it's source code? — It would seem to be an altered mbr for one.
[06:35] <DarkFox> ( I know it's not supported anymore but I'm not asking here for ubuntu support but rather loopback booting support )
[06:35] <utfans05> DarkFox: from what i understand wubi has been discontinued.
[06:35] <DarkFox> virtual hard disk
[06:35] <mumpitze1> wubi needs altered bootloader, linux initrd and a big file instead of a partition for ubuntu
[06:36] <DarkFox> utfans05: Indeed but support should still be there for the concepts behind it
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | Darkfox
[06:36] <DarkFox> Incompatible with UEFI my arse, it would work if someone applied the time.
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !language | DarkFox
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> Darkfox: check this link for other ways then wubi: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[06:38] <spyder> utfans05: did not work i think i have to re-login for it to work let me check
[06:39] <DarkFox> mumpitze1: I am aware it does this. However, I'm trying to copy the concept for archlinux with an encrypted partition for the root and ... C:\archlinux\disks\{archlinux.vhd,swap.img}. Very similar case as with wubi's C:\ubuntu\disks\{root,swap}.img and instead of using the linux kernel on the root partition it's on it's /boot as a part of the partitioned virtual disk.
[06:39] <spyder> utfans05: did not work
[06:40] <DarkFox> lotuspsychje: What I want (and kinda need) is to boot arch from a virtual hard disk. This concept for booting a loopback disk is heavily similar to how wubi is working. I'm just using one disk for two partitions.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> DarkFox: this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[06:41] <DarkFox> losetup -f archlinux.vhd; partx /dev/loop0 and I've got access for each partition.
[06:41] <DarkFox> lotuspsychje: I'm not asking for ubuntu nor arch support. I am asking for wubi concept
[06:41] <DarkFox> Down to the level of using it for my arch.vhd
[06:41] <wheatthin> lol
[06:41] <DarkFox> And I'll be sharing the minimal concept so anyone can do this
[06:41] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[06:42] <spyder> utfans05: it works for some things but not all
[06:42] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: Wubi is ubuntu
[06:42] <utfans05> what extra stuff are you looking for?
[06:42] <wheatthin> not it's conceptual interpretation, it isn't
[06:42] <DarkFox> wubi may be discontinued but there has to be someone who I can talk to for it
[06:42] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: But you're not asking for Wubi support.
[06:42] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:43] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: I am asking for wubi support. Although talking to it's developers would be far more useful
[06:43] <wheatthin> !ails
[06:44] <wheatthin> hmm must have gotten it wrong
[06:44] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: You are not asking for Wubi support, and the general consenses for Wubi support in this channel has always been pretty much "Don't use Wubi", even before it was discontinued. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:44] <DarkFox> This is a support channel, sure it may be targeted for ubuntu as of current. But no general linux support with the tools that you offer?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> !factoids > wheatthin
[06:45] <Jordan_U> DarkFox: This is your last warning, please stop the offtopic discussion.
[06:45] <DarkFox> Jordan_U: "Don't use wubi" I'm not trying to use it, I have it working for ubuntu. Just trying to port to other systems
[06:45] <DarkFox> fine
[06:45] <DartSmjkfuE> hi all
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> DartSmjkfuE: hey mate, what can we do for you?
[06:47] <LongCatTH> free coupon for codeschool, first come first serve :) http://go.codeschool.com/yp6ONw
[06:48] <Nmbr1> DarkFox: i as well would suggest not using wubi, but if you feel the need send me a pm and i'll see if i can help
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: LongCatTH has been pasting urls like this for few days
[06:48] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the heads up.
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: np
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to completly hide a user from /home and useraccounts?
[06:51] <Nmbr1> lotuspsychje: do you also want it hidden from "users"?
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Nmbr1: if its possible yes, or if there's a way to hide useraccounts for other users then root
[06:53] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: look into grsec and alike ,it'll hide user processes etc from other users
[06:54] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/selinux-vs-apparmor-vs-grsecurity.html
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> SwedeMike: tnx, will that hide the /home/someuser too?
[06:55] <SwedeMike> lotuspsychje: I don't know the detail, I believe you can hide everything outside the user dir, but I'm not sure. you have to look it up.
[06:55] <lizg> is it possible to redir /home and /usr  with other partitions?
[06:56] <mumpitze1> lizg: yes
[06:57] <SuperLag> lizg: thankfully, yes :)
[06:57] <SuperLag> lizg: it's how I've kept my ~ intact over multiple Linux installs
[06:57] <lizg> can you teach me how to do?
[06:57] <vnwildman> lizg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[06:58] <SuperLag> lizg: what vnwildman said ^^^
[06:58] <lizg> thank you
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | Nmbr1
[07:00] <Nmbr1> lotuspsychje: thx
[07:01] <BlackFlag> Hey! Does someone knows if "dumpes2fs" works with partition reiserfs?
[07:02] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: no.
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> SwedeMike: tnx for info ill look it up :p
[07:03] <vnwildman> BlackFlag: use partclone
[07:03] <BlackFlag> SwedeMike, Thank you!
[07:03] <BlackFlag> vnwildman, Thanks!
[07:04] <BlackFlag> Neither works with swap partition?
[07:04] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: What is your end goal?
[07:05] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: Doing bit for bit copies of active filesystems / swap is inherently unreliable.
[07:05] <BlackFlag> I want to see the if it has bad blocks, Jordan_U
[07:06] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: dumpe2fs is not a tool for finding bad blocks.
[07:07] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: use the "badblocks" untility.
[07:07] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: The simplest way to check a drive for bad sectors is to check the S.M.A.R.T data, which you can do via GNOME Disks or smartctl.
[07:08] <SwedeMike> BlackFlag: also what Jordan_U said. apt-get install smartmontools ; smartctl -a /dev/sdwhatever
[07:08] <BlackFlag> Thank you, SwedeMike and Jordan_U
[07:08] <Jordan_U> BlackFlag: You're welcome.
[07:13] <vnwildman> BlackFlag: You can check file system first: reiserfsck --check /dev/sdwhatever
[07:29] <DarwinSurvivor> \q
[07:38] <glowe> Hey all. I have a problem with my usb dongle (mobile internet)! LSUSB finds a huawei usb dongle but it wont connect to internet
[07:39] <coolstar> glowe: sounds like you need drivers
[07:39] <glowe> yea i think so
[07:39] <glowe> The device is Huawei E1750
[07:39] <glowe> Do you know the proper drivers?
[07:40] <coolstar> glowe: Ubuntu should find them automatically if they're on the default repos
[07:40] <coolstar> glowe: plug into Ethernet and have it check
[07:40] <glowe> im on wifi now
[07:41] <varunendra> glowe, is it a 3g modem?
[07:41] <glowe> what should i do? Im new to this
[07:41] <glowe> yea
[07:41] <glowe> it is
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> glowe: i think huawei devices should be recognized automaticly
[07:42] <varunendra> glowe, please show us the lsusb output line pertaining to it.
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> glowe: did you activate the sim card inside?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> glowe: How did you try to connect using the 3G modem?
[07:42] <TREE1> HI FREND IN MY UBUNTU WIRED CONNECTION DOESNOT ALLOW WEB BROWSING TORRENT IS ONLY WORKING ANY IDEA??
[07:43] <glowe> with the set up a new connection buttom
[07:43] <glowe> Cant see my device in the list and when i enter it manually it wont connect
[07:43] <sm0x> hey guys, is in the actual daily-build of saucy "Mir" already included ?
[07:43] <glowe> Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:43] <glowe> Thats what lsusb gives
[07:43] <Jordan_U> TREE1: Drop the caps lock please.
[07:44] <TREE1> ok
[07:44] <Jordan_U> sm0x: #ubuntu+1 for Saucy.
[07:44] <varunendra> glowe, the full line (it should show a pair of four digit number like [abcd:pqrs])
[07:44] <glowe> Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:44] <glowe> oh
[07:44] <sm0x> Jordan_U: thx
[07:44] <glowe> sorry
[07:44] <glowe> sec
[07:44] <FloodBot1> glowe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <Jordan_U> sm0x: You're welcome.
[07:45] <Akuma> hello, I installed ubuntu server 13.04 and then installed the ubuntu-desktop on top of it. Now I'm having an issue where the network manager (icon on top next to the volume) doesn't seem to recognize there is a network connection
[07:45] <superdo> hi
[07:45] <Akuma> when I click on it it says "Ethernet  Network device not managed"
[07:45] <Jordan_U> glowe: What list are you looking at? How are you "entering it manually"?
[07:45] <TREE1> hi can any body help me out in finding network connection problem wired connection doesnt allow web browsing torrent is only working
[07:46] <Akuma> my network works fine  though, ifconfig shows my device
[07:46] <bazhang> !repeat | TREE1
[07:46] <superdo> articles suggest setting umask to 0002 for apache , in login.defs are now 022. can I overwrite this?
[07:46] <ItsMeLenny> you know how when a program is fullscreen, the menu goes into the top bar
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Make sure that any interfaces that you want managed by network-managers are not configured in /etc/network/interfaces .
[07:47] <glowe> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E1552/E1800/E173 (HSPA modem)
[07:47] <varunendra> TREE1, if the torrent is working on the same connection, then check your browser settings, try setting the DNS to <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> etc. May be stop the torrent as it may be using up all the bandwidth.
[07:47] <Akuma> Jordan_U: do I comment all the lines out if there are entries?
[07:48] <Akuma> Jordan_U: eth0 is in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:48] <TREE1> ok
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Akuma: Just comment out ethX and wlanX entries, leave any lo entry.
[07:48] <glowe> Jordan_U I go to the wifi symbol on the right and then add a new connection and choose mobile broadband
 but this problem does not occur in wireless
[07:49] <Akuma> Jordan_U: do I need to restart the network manager service  ? (how do would I do that?)
[07:49] <Jordan_U> Akuma: I don't know.
[07:50] <varunendra> glowe, that device is not supported here on my 12.04. Does "modinfo option | grep 1446" return any output on yours?
[07:50] <Akuma> I'll try restarting the box. Thanks for the help. Greatly appreciated
[07:51] <glowe> varunendra Nothing happens. im on 13.04 right now
[07:53] <varunendra> glowe, it means that modem is not natively supported by the driver "option" that is used for these devices. You may try to 'Force' bind your device with it though. One of the few possible methods is this post (#11) : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1969322&p=11899627#post11899627
[07:54] <glowe> brb
[07:56] <glowe> back again
[08:03] <energizer1> My computer just went to black screen with ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ in the top left corner, and wont respond to anything within ctrl+alt+F7 mode
[08:03] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Are you running an ssh server on this machine?
[08:03] <energizer1> ya, but i dont think anything's accessing it atm
[08:04] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Can you log in from another machine and try to look at logs or at least reboot cleanly?
[08:05] <energizer1> i can use ctrl+alt+f1 for a command line if that works also?
[08:05] <energizer1> which log would i want to look at
[08:06] <glowe> Hey again
[08:06] <glowe> i did now try to bind it but with no success
[08:06] <energizer1> Jordan_U: im in tty1-- where should i navigate to
[08:06] <Jordan_U> energizer1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log for one. You can also completely restart X with "sudo service lightdm restart".
[08:07] <energizer1> Jordan_U what am i looking for in Xorg.0
[08:08] <energizer1> (first off, is the top or bottom most recent?)
[08:08] <Jordan_U> energizer1: Lines starting with EE: are error messages, the bottom is most recent (error messages are always appended to the end of log files).
[08:08]  * wheatthin will brb
[08:10] <energizer1> Jordan_U will it be helpful for me to copy the last 20 lines or so?
[08:11] <Jordan_U> energizer1: You could post them via a link with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com , yes.
[08:11] <glowe> Seems like im stuck on the same problem
[08:15] <glowe> Jordan_U
[08:15] <energizer> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873459/
[08:15] <glowe> Are you there? When i try to set up the connection on network manager i cant select my usb dongle which indicate that it isnt recognized?
[08:15] <glowe> Will modprobe usbserial vendor=0x1c9e product=0x9605 do any good?
[08:18] <lordgod> hello
[08:18] <varunendra> glowe, that's worth trying. You may also try your luck on usb_modeswitch forums : http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/bb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1336
[08:19] <Jordan_U> energizer: It doesn't look like any signifigant errors were logged. Have you tried just ctlrl+alt+F8 or F9 ?
[08:19] <varunendra> glowe, by the way, your ID isn't same though as that example you posted above
[08:20] <moses> ok i have a problem
[08:21] <diverdude> Hello, what does it actually mean if i append this line:      -      rtprio      99    To   /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[08:21] <varunendra> glowe, vendor id with 12d1, and product id with 1446 in the modprobe usb_serial command.
[08:21] <energizer> Jordan_U i restarted lightdm as you suggested and everything works now, but id like to get a handle on what just happened. C.A.F8 just brings blinking underscore.
[08:21] <glowe> yea
[08:21] <glowe> tried and replugged the usb modem but with no success
[08:21] <glowe> Still cant select it on the netowork manager
[08:21] <moses> I have this directory that I want to let all users read write and execute, I want every file created in this directory to have these permissions for all personell that use this directory weather to run a program, anything.  Is this possible?
[08:22] <Jordan_U> energizer: Did you try ctrl+alt+F8 before restarting lightdm?
[08:23] <energizer> too late
[08:23] <varunendra> glowe, tried the modprobe command AFTER plugging in? Unload the usb_serial driver first : sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial
[08:24] <friluftsfan> #NUUG
[08:27] <glowe> I did the command with the usb plugged
[08:27] <glowe> mathias@ubuntu:~$ sudo modprobe -rfv usb_serial
[08:27] <glowe> [sudo] password for mathias:
[08:27] <glowe> FATAL: Module usb_serial not found.
[08:31] <varunendra> glowe, sorry, that was "usbserial"
[08:34] <lordgod> hello
[08:35] <glowe> I need to go now but thanks everyone for your help!
[08:46] <ns7> Where are the pgp keys stored in ubuntu?
[08:47] <Phosphate> q
[08:50] <coolstar> ns7: check ~/.gpg
[08:52] <ns7> ty
[08:55] <fzguh> hello I've got some problems updating my Applications it claims that it dosen't find some pages (404) has any one an idea?
[09:03] <mac-> hey
[09:03] <mac-> what is the current state of ubuntu for smartphones ?
[09:16] <stack3457>  how can I upgrade akonadi and kdepimlibs from 4.10 version to 4.11 ?.I am using kubuntu 12.04
[09:18] <diverdude> if i do this: /sbin/ifconfig  eth0 mtu 8192  i change mtu, but as soon the system is restarted this mtu change is reset to default. How do i enable this so its persistent?
[09:19] <honvai> What do I have to do that you will give me gains root access to your device?
[09:20] <mac-> strange silnce in here ...
[09:21] <mac-> I would expect crowded channel because its about the most popular Linux in the world
[09:21] <mac-> even my mom uses Ubuntu
[09:21] <bekks> diverdude: An MTU of 8192 is -- non.default. Do you have a specific reason for not using the default jumbo packet size of 9000?
[09:22] <holywood> #help
[09:22] <bekks> !details | holywood
[09:23] <holywood> sorry/ it's typo
[09:23] <diverdude> bekks, i think default is 1500 actually
[09:23] <holywood> i should have typed the slash. :)
[09:24] <decaf> hi. I can't suspend or hibernate my system. I've had this problem before. suspending process actually works but at the end it can't give motherboard the right order
[09:24] <decaf> restarts instead of powering off
[09:25] <stack3457>  how can I upgrade 4.10 kde version to 4.10 in kubuntu 12.04??
[09:28] <decaf> stack3457: I don't get it. please check 'versions' in your sentence
[09:33] <Sarcastic> I'm having some difficulties with setting screen resolution with xorg.conf
[09:34] <Sarcastic> Can anyone see why my screen resolution isn't changing: http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj8
[09:41] <Sarcastic_> Can anyone see anything wrong in this? http://pastebin.com/ZvRyCRj8
[10:00] <xormor> my xubuntu is working well.
[10:00] <Joschii> Hosianna!
[10:00] <xormor> Linux laptoppi-HP-G62-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-26-generic #38-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 17 21:46:08 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i686 GNU/Linux
[10:00] <xormor> Hosianna Son of David, holy be His name.
[10:01] <xormor> Joschii: it's not Christmas, it is summer.
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !ot
[10:08] <SaxX> hi all
[10:09] <cfhowlett> SaxX, greetings
[10:09] <SaxX> anybody knows how to solve /dev/vide0 is busy
[10:09] <SaxX> hi cfhowlett
[10:10] <cfhowlett> SaxX, sorry, I can't help with that one
[10:11] <SaxX> don't worry cfhowlett :)
[10:13] <kgalahassa> hi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.10
[10:19] <kgalahassa> hi, how to reduce luminosity completely and keep it like that each time, even at booting,   on ubuntu 12.10
[10:20] <varunendra> kgalahassa, you mean screen brightness?
[10:25] <kgalahassa> varunendra, yes
[10:26] <varunendra> kgalahassa, I have added this line to my "/etc/rc.local" file (without quotes) : "echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness"
[10:26] <varunendra> the device "acpi_video0/" and the value "0" may differ in your case.
[10:27] <kgalahassa> oky, varunendra, let me a minute i will try too
[10:28] <varunendra> kgalahassa, if you try this, make sure the "rc.local" file ends with "exit 0" line. That means, insert your line above it.
[10:28] <kgalahassa> oky varunendra
[10:28] <mm122> hi all
[10:28] <mm122> first time iam using ubuntu.,,where do i repository
[10:29] <varunendra> mm122, are you trying to install an application?
[10:29] <mm122> yeh
[10:29] <varunendra> are you connected to internet?
[10:30] <varunendra> apparently not ;)
[10:30] <SaxX> :)
[10:34] <sneex> I would like to talk about and troubleshoot Citrix XenApp remote desktop -- My Citrix Remote desktop is timing before I can finish connecting -- what settings control that?
[10:34] <sneex> timing out
[10:34] <ikonia> sneex what is the package name that contains this client ?
[10:35] <kgalahassa> varunendra, i've down it, but i'm doing something on my computer, after restarting, i will let a msg to informe u.thks
[10:35] <varunendra> np :)
[10:37] <sneex> ikonia: There isn't an official one but Ubuntu discusses it in too much generality  the Citrix name is  CitrixReceiverWeb
[10:37] <ikonia> sneex so where did you get it from if there isn a package
[10:39] <sneex> I got it from Citrix based upon finding that there was a Untuntu version (based on Ubuntu forums) -- I would like to extend those discussion or ask that Unbuntu stop discribing thing they really dont want to support -- it is aggravting to me and hurts others
[10:40] <ikonia> sneex what???
[10:40] <ikonia> sneex: are you using an ubuntu package yes/no ?
[10:41] <sneex> ikonia: that answer is no BUT I went down this path because I saw Unbuntu talking about it in the forum - hence I am here to further discuss it
[10:41] <ikonia> sneex: someone talking about it on ubuntu doesn't make it anything to do with ubuntu
[10:41] <ikonia> sneex: you're best bet is to try the cytrix channels/forums or use the cytrix support services
[10:42] <sneex> yes, unfortunately that I understand -- one of the draw backs of Linux in general
[10:42] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with linux
[10:42] <Guest91591> sneex: do you complain to your butcher when your bread is stale?
[10:43] <ikonia> you're using a product provided by a comercial vendor, the obvious support choice would be the comercial vendor that makes that package, no matter what OS it's on
[10:43] <sneex> It is in that developers can't actually write Linux apps -- but thx any ways; I will muddle along
[10:43] <ikonia> sneex: there are many linux apps - please stop trying to be rude about things, you've chosen a comercial product with comercial support,
[10:44] <ikonia> that is your choice.
[10:44] <CC12> hey all
[10:44] <Guest91591> hello CC12
[10:44] <CC12> is ubuntu better then windows 8?
[10:44] <CC12> hello Guest91591
[10:44] <ikonia> CC12: it comes down to personal choice, only you can make up your mind
[10:44] <ikonia> CC12: you'll need to do a little bit of research on both to see which looks like it meets your needs best
[10:44] <CC12> iam worried if i install ubuntu it might erase my data
[10:44] <Guest91591> CC12: depends on what you want to use it for and your personal preferences. For me: hell yes.
[10:45] <ikonia> CC12: there is a risk if you make a mistake at install time it can cause data loss
[10:45] <ikonia> CC12: if you want to install it, go slow, read the on screen information and if anything is unclear, ask in the support resources, here/forum/mail lists etc
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> CC12: if you like safety and stability, ubuntu would make a great choice
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> CC12  try a live session, first, to get familiar with it
[10:45] <ikonia> windows 8 is no more/less supported/stable/secure
[10:46] <ikonia> I'd advise you to check your hardware for compatability with linux too
[10:46] <CC12> ive got 2 drives one ssd 256 corsair...and one 1.5 terra i want to install it on 1.5 terra
[10:46] <ikonia> CC12: that's fine, that's doable
[10:46] <CC12> yeah is my graphics card compatible
[10:46] <ikonia> you'll need to resarch that
[10:46] <CC12> ive got a gigabyte 7970 ultra durable
[10:46] <CC12> 3gb
[10:47] <ikonia> you'll need to resarch that
[10:47] <CC12> ill think ill back up  everthing just in case
[10:47] <ikonia> a wise move
[10:48] <CC12> how long does it take to install
[10:48] <ikonia> depends on a few things
[10:49] <CC12> is there a skype on ubuntu
[10:49] <ikonia> about the same time as a windows install (use that as your benchmark)
[10:49] <ikonia> CC12: yes, skype is availabe
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> CC12  15 minutes or so, but first try a live cd or usb
[10:49] <ikonia> available even
[10:49] <CC12> wow nice
[10:49] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: he's on a livecd  now
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> o
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> k
[10:49] <CC12> yeah iam on live cd right nowe
[10:51] <CC12> wow love the desktop background choices
[10:51] <afflicto> I'm using gnome shell. What's the panel at the bottom called?
[10:52] <ikonia> afflicto: there isn't one
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> CC12: im using ubuntu 13.04 64bit on an ssd and it goes rocketfast
[10:52] <CC12> wow its even got workspaces unreal very nice MonkeyDust
[10:52] <ikonia> afflicto: the dock has been removed
[10:55] <CC12> hmm this is fast wow
[10:56] <CC12> can i use any other browser part from firefox?
[10:57] <ikonia> CC12: there are others available, yes
[10:57] <CC12> how good is the firewall on ubuntu
[10:57] <ikonia> excellent
[10:57] <CC12> do i need any antivirus programs
[10:57] <ikonia> no
[10:57] <JasMay> #irchelp
[10:58] <CC12> no??
[10:58] <ikonia> correct, no
[10:58] <CC12> why is that.
[10:58] <ikonia> the OS works different
[10:58] <CC12> i paid like top dollars for windows 8 lol
[10:58] <sneex> CC12: viruses in Ubuntu is some what different than Windows
[10:58] <kimir> I'm using GNOME with ubuntu 13.04. I want close, minimize and maximize buttons on left side of screen. in gconf editor (org/gnome/desktop/wm/preferences) i set button-layout to close,minimize,maximize: but it has no effect: all I have is close button and on right side. How can I fix that?
[10:59] <ikonia> CC12: windows 8 has microsoft security essentials for free - so not sure why you paid for anything
[10:59] <CC12> nah didnt like that one
[10:59] <wzooff> hi. i have trouble with cups. in web interface i see dublicates of all elements
[11:01] <nibbler_> kimir: instead of minimize you can middle-click the top-bar to send it to background
[11:01] <kimir> nibbler_: there is no middle click on laptop :)
[11:02] <nibbler_> kimir: simoultanious left+right
[11:03] <kimir> nibbler_: Doesn't work. my touchpad is weird, won't let me hit both buttons (they are actually one button)
[11:03] <varunendra> kimir, gconf editor? Those settings have been moved over to "dconf editor"
[11:03] <CC12> cool thanks if i need anything ill be back
[11:03] <kimir> Yeah its dconf** varunendra
[11:05] <varunendra> kimir, you may have to log out --> log in again for the settings to take effect.
[11:05] <AfyonAhmet> selamm
[11:07] <kimir> relogging doesn't help
[11:08] <quazimodo> ubuntu installed a driver for my Alsp dualpoint stick, I'm trying to find the actual driver. Any one know where it'll be?
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: how did it install it, was it a kernel module or an X11 driver ?
[11:09] <quazimodo> ikonia: I'm not certain, that's why I'm lost a bit
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: how did you install it ?
[11:09] <quazimodo> ikonia: installed by default
[11:09] <quazimodo> ubuntud id it
[11:09] <ikonia> quazimodo: what do you mean installed by default
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: ubuntu doesn't just install drivers....
[11:10] <varunendra> kimir, I'm using Unity, and the preferences location and the sequence you tried is correct for that though. Perhaps the settings for Gnome 3 (??) are stored somewhere else.. can't say as I've never used it.
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: do you mean it was part of the default install ?
[11:10] <quazimodo> yup
[11:10] <ikonia> quazimodo: why does it's location matter, what are you trying to do ?
[11:10] <ikonia> it may help explain if it's a kernel or Xorg driver you're looking for
[11:11] <quazimodo> ikonia: exactly... and I'm trying to figure that out but I don't actually know how to query the device node, and i don't know where else to look tbh
[11:11] <ikonia> quazimodo: what are you trying to do ?
[11:12] <quazimodo> ikonia: i want to modify the behavior of the device slightly, I don't kno whether to do it in userland or in the kernel driver (if it's a kernel driver) but essentially I want to grab the raw input before the driver applies acceleration/deceleration
[11:13] <ikonia> quazimodo: how do you plan to modify this ?
[11:13] <quazimodo> ikonia: don't know yet, I don't know enough yet!
[11:13] <quazimodo> thats why i'm trying to find its driver
[11:13] <ikonia> quazimodo: the location of it's driver is not going to help, as it will either be a kernel module or an Xorg module, which will be a compiled binary
[11:13] <quazimodo> /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input10/device/driver in there i can cat description, it says PS/2 Mouse Driver
[11:14] <ikonia> quazimodo: that's referencing a kernel module
[11:14] <quazimodo> ikonia: so the PS/2 Mouse Driver itself knows how to handle the Alps DualPoint Stick ?
[11:14] <foolcool> Hey guys, what is the best linux ditrobution for performing unattended, automated installations pre-configured to have specific software installed?
[11:14] <ikonia> quazimodo: I suspect that's being used as the input device, and then something like xorg maybe used to map it's function
[11:15] <foolcool> And how hard would it to be to configure the install to mirror the desktop on an external monitor when one is plugged in without any input or configuration from the user whatsoever
[11:15] <ikonia> quazimodo: from a dumb point of view, it's just a pointing control device
[11:15] <quazimodo> ikonia: via evdev?
[11:16] <ikonia> quazimodo: this maybe an interesting read for you, I strongly suggest you don't actually follow this blind, but it's interesting reading http://www.micropctalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=62447
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> foolcool  this channel is foor ubuntu support only, better ask in ##linux or so
[11:16] <varunendra> quazimodo, does the device show up in the output of "xinput" ?
[11:17] <quazimodo> varunendra: yep
[11:17] <zipy> hey ikonia, did u find sth out about gpt and lvm cant be used on whole disk without a partition in it?
[11:17] <varunendra> quazimodo, you can set most of the options with the xinput command itself.
[11:17] <quazimodo> varunendra: I'm getting the impression that the PS/2 Mouse Driver is grabbing the input as a generic pointing device, then something in X is picking it up and identifying it as a DualPoint Stick and going on
[11:18] <quazimodo> varunendra: it doesn't have the capabilities I want, I think
[11:18] <varunendra> quazimodo, so what do you want to do with the driver?
[11:19] <kimir> How can I make a shell script run after returning from suspend (when laptop lid is raised)?
[11:19] <lost_and_unfound> greetings, I am playing with udev rule, I want to copy files from USB to local disk (done) and once completed then open nautilus, however, seems like running the command as root it does not have access to X(unity) to open the display. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this ?
[11:19] <lost_and_unfound> thanks is advance
[11:19] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: how are you trying to run nautlius as root
[11:20] <kimir> lost_and_unfound: gksudo should let you do it?
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ^^ i have also tried with 'su user -c "nautilus"
[11:20] <quazimodo> varunendra: the driver, i was going to read to understand what's going on. then I was going to figure out the next step, stopping X from getting the data, grabbing it with my own program and then registering a new device that gives X the new events
[11:20] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you can't do that
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> pffft...
[11:20] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you need to use gksudo as the user you are now
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> and the gksu suggestion ?
[11:20] <ikonia> what ?
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ah.. lemme try didn't think about gksu
[11:20] <lost_and_unfound> ok.. be right back..
[11:20] <kimir> :)
[11:21] <varunendra> kimir, place the script in /etc/pm/sleep.d directory as per norms. Ask here if you don't know the norms.
[11:22] <varunendra> quazimodo, the default ps/2 mouse driver is "psmouse" by the way. You can get information about any driver (its location, available parameters, etc.) with "modinfo <driver name>"
[11:22] <lost_and_unfound> ikonia: kimir: no luck with gksu, can I pastebin you the details ?
[11:22] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: put it in a pastebin sure
[11:22] <kimir> varunendra: I don't know the norms. Is there a manual?
[11:23] <quazimodo> varunendra: do you think my plan is sound?
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:24] <lost_and_unfound> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/NaTKy4i7
[11:24] <varunendra> quazimodo, tbh, I don't understand most part of your plan at all. lol !
[11:26] <quazimodo> varunendra: the dualpoint stick's acceleration and speed profile sucks, i want to add my own, also soft snap it to x and y lines
[11:26] <quazimodo> make ti easier to use
[11:26] <diverdude> my wifi is veryunstable. i am using a usb wifi dongle (i tried 2 different types) machine is unstable with both.....and both should by linux compliant. wifi is verystable on other computers. Im running ubuntu1204. what is the problem?
[11:26] <varunendra> kimir, not many rules, just make sure the name of the script starts with a number like 20, 40 etc, there should be no blank spaces in its name and only alphanumeric chars, hyphen, underscore is allowed in its name. And of course it should be executable ;)
[11:26] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: ok, the problem is this is the fact that cron does not have a valid "shell" setup
[11:26] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: you need to set the X11 enviornment varibles up in your shell script, eg: DISPLAY=, xhost, etc etc.
[11:27] <lost_and_unfound> in the bash scriptitself ?
[11:27] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: also cron does not have a controlling session on an X11 display, so if you run gksu blah - where is blah going to launch, it's not got a user "logged in" as cron is not a real use, you have to tell it
[11:27] <varunendra> quazimodo, I believe you can control the speed and accl. from the xinput command itself.
[11:27] <ikonia> lost_and_unfound: yes, in the bash script
[11:27] <varunendra> (set props)
[11:31] <Guest69783> when i type:" sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" ..... then i find:"nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>",and i need to turn to google DNS ... shall i delete nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:33] <BluesKaj> Guest69783, no
[11:33] <FourFire> Hello, I am about to try to install Java from a tar.gz package and I would likr to know which directory it would/should normally be in
[11:34] <varunendra> Guest69783, set the dns in Network Manager itself (use "Automatic (DHCP) address only" for IPv4)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Guest69783, add the name servers to  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base , it writes to /etc/resolv.conf
[11:35] <slime_mawmag>  hi I need help getting zoneminder to work using a bttv878 card with 4 315D cameras on Ubuntu Server 12.04
[11:35] <Guest69783> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[11:35] <Guest69783> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <Guest69783> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:35] <FloodBot1> Guest69783: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <Guest69783> i'm sorry FloodBot
[11:38] <Guest69783> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5873861/  shall i save and close?
[11:38] <FourFire> Can someone please direct me to the easiest way to install JRE on Ubuntu (12.04)
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> !jre
[11:44] <odra> Hello
[11:45] <cfhowlett> odra, greetings
[11:46] <slime_mawmag> hi has anyone here have experience with Zoneminder?
[11:46] <odra> How can I program something like the twitter/gmail/etc message alerts? Such that users are asked if they want to install it in firefox when they access a site and such?
[11:47] <diverdude> man top says: RES: Resident Memory Size: "The non-swapped physical memory a task has used". Does that mean RES is current memory usage or memory the process ever used? Like if memory is freed up i cannot see it here.
[11:48] <Igramul> odra: Are you talking about Firefox plugins?
[11:48] <odra> Igramul: I'm not sure :S
[11:49] <odra> Igramul: When I accessed twitter the other day, it asked whether I would like to "install it", so it would be shown in unity message menu
[11:51] <ikonia> diverdude: reserved - man top explains it clearly
[11:51] <Igramul> odra: http://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2009/01/28/how-to-develop-a-firefox-extension/
[12:13] <odra> Igramul: it's not a firefox extension
[12:13] <odra> Igramul: It's a thing that show in ubuntu version of firefox to integrate in unity
[12:19] <Ihsan> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 (x64) and whenever I issue the command: 'uname -r', I get the following output: '3.8.0-26-generic'. Now, when I look at kernel.org I see that there is a newer version of the kernel (3.10). How can I upgrade my kernel?
[12:19] <thor_> ...
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> Ihsan, why would you want to upgrade?
[12:21] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: you can upgrade using < sudo apt-get upgrade >
[12:21] <Ihsan> I don't know. Isn't it better to always be up-to-date?
[12:22] <Ihsan> Do I need to issue "./configure" then "make" and then "make install" to install the kernel?
[12:23] <kimir> Ihsan: No, because latest kernel may have bugs; it is not well tested
[12:23] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: only if the new kernel is not yet in your repository, also you will have to update first
[12:23] <Ihsan> Oh okay, I get it now :)
[12:23] <Ihsan> Thanks
[12:23] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: kimir is right.
[12:24] <Ihsan> So if the kernel is stable it will automatically come with the new version of Ubuntu
[12:24] <papa_> hey all
[12:24] <papa_> I can't get my printer to print in ubuntu
[12:24] <slime_mawmag> Ihsan: Just go along with what is available from your repository. That is more or less the most stable.
[12:24] <Ihsan> Hmm. Arlgiht, thanks for your information!
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> Ihsan, it will appear in the update manager
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> you can run update manager and see if theres any new updates, if theres a new kernal ready then it will be in there
[12:25] <papa_> I already tried that
[12:26] <slime_mawmag> papa: ItsmeLenny was referring to Ihsan's :)
[12:27] <papa_> oh ok :)
[12:28] <Learningg> ~check this out_: http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/
[12:29] <nevyn> diverdude: don't believe top
[12:30] <slime_mawmag> papa: normally just got to your printer in Ubuntu
[12:31] <slime_mawmag> papa: add printer then follow the prompt and let it search for the printer online
[12:32] <Homely_Girl> Greetings oh holders of the Linux knowlege!! :)
[12:32] <Homely_Girl> Anyone got experience with using Ubuntu 'n BT HomeHub4?
[12:33] <slime_mawmag> Homely_Girl: sorry but wait for the gurus to come online :)
[12:33] <Homely_Girl> Thanks slime_mawmag, it is far too early!! lol
[12:35] <kolialisad> can someone help me whit wine
[12:36] <kolialisad> how to disable sound?
[12:36] <kolialisad> i want to play street war constructor
[12:40] <kolialisad> is ther no sound prefix
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> kolialisad  type /join #winehq
[12:47] <kolialisad> do you know meybe how to run in window mode
[12:49] <kolialisad> how to remove mesa drivers and istall ati when i try just by addonisanal drivers it gives me error
[12:49] <iceroot_> kolialisad: start wineconfig (imo it was wine-cfg) and on the display settings create a virtual desktop, so everything will run in that window instead of fullscreen, more more details see #winehq
[12:50] <iceroot_> !details | kolialisad
[12:50] <paul__> Hi i am new to this so dont know if in the right place but has anyone lost hdmi audio on 13.04 after the resent update thanks
[12:53] <kolialisad> i have pronlem whit  i istalld newest mesa drivers and now i think they bug my pc i am runing 12.04  so i want to install properity drivers but when i go on addonisanal drivers  it gives me error http://pastebin.com/XrTMb0Tc
[12:57] <kolialisad> anyone
[12:57] <paul__> Also when i install nvidia drivers i lose 2nd monitor so have to revert back to standard drivers tp get back 2nd monitor
[12:58] <saiarcot895> kolialisad: do you have AMD graphics?
[12:59] <paul__> yes amd grphics its a geforce 8400 gs card
[12:59] <kolialisad> i have ati 4650
[13:00] <kolialisad> and before i coud easy install
[13:00] <kolialisad> but affter i install this newest mesa driwers i cant revert
[13:00] <BluesKaj> geforce 8400 gs is nvida
[13:00] <BluesKaj> er nvidia
[13:00] <paul__> my audio shows up in volume settings but notin alsa mixer
[13:01] <BluesKaj> paul try alsamixer , one word
[13:01] <BluesKaj> paul__,^
[13:04] <paul__> yes i have tried that and under s/pdif there is only 00 in a box no bar ?
[13:06] <paul__> this only happened after update this week i may try a reinstall and go from there ive tried many suggestions from the net but no success
[13:07] <zipper_> Hey I don't know if you guys can help but I'm male and 20 years old and sometimes I experience pain in my nipples for a few minutes. is that normal? where can I ask this.
[13:07] <raven_> how can i transfer files from a ubuntu machine to a windows machine on the same network
[13:08] <theadmin> raven_: You can use the built-in folder sharing feature, for one
[13:08] <BluesKaj> !ot | zipper_,
[13:08] <theadmin> raven_: Share a folder with your files and then connect from Windows using your Ubuntu name and password, and the share name you specified.
[13:08] <raven_> hm
[13:09] <kolialisad> pusite ga pederi
[13:09] <raven_> my windows pc cannot see ubuntu shares
[13:09] <theadmin> raven_: To share, you can right click a folder, go to Properties and Sharing. To connect from Windows, you'll need to map a network drive for example, this differs from version to version, but in general this should work: net use X: \\<IP_ADDRESS>\myshare
[13:10] <theadmin> raven_: Where <IP_ADDRESS> is the Ubuntu box's IP.
[13:10] <aguitel> how install manjaro xfce theme in ubuntu ?
[13:10] <zipper_> BluesKaj ubottu seriously I need help.
[13:11] <th0r> aguitel, place it in a folder inside the folder ~/.themes. If that doesn't exist yet, create it
[13:11] <aguitel> th0r, ok but where i find it in the web ?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> yup , no doubt , but this isn't the place , zipper_ so stop trolling please
[13:12] <th0r> aguitel, have no idea, I never heard of it
[13:12] <aguitel> th0r, ok
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> !themes
[13:12] <raven_> it says i dont have the mermissions
[13:15] <occ> what does *make a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf with "options ath9k nohwcrypt"* do? i used it to fix my wifi card(which kept disconnecting), the connection is stable now but a little slower in terms of bandwidth speed
[13:15] <bigDoggy> My vps won't boot. I get to this point http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=df7xqe&s=5 ad it freezes. no detectable errors other than that (pre logging and can't get to dmesg). debconf-show -> http://sprunge.us/MAfM
[13:18] <th0r> occ, that file passes that option to the module when it is loaded
[13:18] <sasha__> Hello
[13:18] <sasha__> I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?
[13:18] <sasha__> On Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:19] <sasha__> I tried iwlist wlan0 scan, but that didn't tell me which one I was connected to
[13:19] <saiarcot895> sasha__: wifi channel or wifi router name?
[13:19] <sasha__> WiFi channel
 I was wondering, how can you tell which wifi channel you're connected to?
[13:21] <theadmin> sasha__: Wavemon can tell you
[13:21] <raven_> it says i dont have the mermissions
[13:22] <sasha__> Ok, thanks!
[13:22] <sasha__> Next question, how do I force the computer to connect to an AP that is 5 meters away instead of an AP that is 20m away?
[13:22] <theadmin> sasha__: Uh, just select it from the list?
[13:22] <sasha__> Nah, it's the same network
[13:23] <sasha__> 3 APs with the same SSID to allow roaming
[13:23] <theadmin> sasha__: Uh.... huh. Not sure then, sorry.
[13:23] <bigDoggy> sasha__ that is a config error in the AP
[13:24] <bigDoggy> sasha__ probably a metric
[13:24] <sasha__> what could be wrong? i know that the AP this laptop is trying to connect to is an older WiFi-abg one, and the others are only WiFi-bgn, although they're set to NG
[13:24] <sasha__> *the laptop is connected to
[13:25] <mm12> hi all
[13:25] <mm12> help trying to install ubuntu and iam stuck
[13:25] <mm12> telling me to edit partition
[13:25] <mm12> iam going to install it on different drive and allocated 20gig to it..
[13:26] <mm12> now telling use as:??
[13:26] <sasha__> And because the RSSI is -80dB of the one this laptop is connecting to, the signal is of very low quality, whilst the closer AP has a signal of -50dB
[13:26] <DJones> mm12: Use as is the file system type, for Ubuntu, its normally ext4 or ext3
[13:26] <mm12> mount point?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> sasha__, can you access the router/modem? , type the IP from the gateway in your browser by doing route -n in the terminal
[13:27] <bigDoggy> mm12 winblows user?
[13:27] <DJones> mm12: If this is your main partition, it should be "/"
[13:27] <occ> th0r. but what does that option do? options ath9k nohwcrypt , it makes the connection more stable, but slower... is it something to do with encryption?
[13:27] <sasha__> BluesKaj: it's wrong :P
[13:28] <sasha__> The AP's IP is .3, whilst route -n is telling me that it's .1, which is the gateway
[13:28] <mm12> ok creating partition
[13:29] <mm12> do i have to create swap area?
[13:29] <bigDoggy> mm12 yes
[13:29] <bigDoggy> mm12 about 500 to 700mb is fine
[13:30] <mm12> pk
[13:30] <mm12> ok
[13:30] <theadmin> mm12: No, you don't *have* to, but it's best to do so for optimal performance
[13:31] <theadmin> mm12: If you're a new user why don't you just use the automated partitioning options? Just click the "Install Ubuntu near Windows" thing and go from there?
[13:31] <mm12> thanks
[13:33] <mm12> how long does this take usually to intall
[13:34] <theadmin> mm12: Around half an hour for me
[13:34] <mm12> drivers for this has it got it..i have the gigabyte 7970
[13:35] <mm12> so i dont any antivirus or firewall for this
[13:35] <mm12> need
[13:35] <theadmin> mm12: Yup, no need for that nonsense.
[13:35] <mm12> nice
[13:35] <theadmin> mm12: Well, Ubuntu has a built-in firewall, but it's rare that you'd need to bother configuring it.
[13:37] <Keba> hi there
[13:38] <mm12> hi
[13:38] <sebrock> I've got an issue with xl2tpd and currently running 10.04 LTS so version is 1.2.8. Can someone help me build the latest version?
[13:39] <Keba> is there an official page (for example in the ubuntu wiki) which lists the winners of the 13.04 wallpaper contest? (i only find blogs for that matter, nothing official)
[13:39] <theadmin> Keba: ...Well, if anything, Ubuntu has an official blog at fridge.ubuntu.com, might look around there.
[13:40] <mm12> whats an alternative to utorrent
[13:40] <theadmin> mm12: Transmission is a great client, built-in to Ubuntu.
[13:40] <yousdo> transmission
[13:41] <Raveni> tixati is good too
[13:41] <mm12> ive installed it on different drive hopes its safe
[13:42] <mm12> wow that was quick brb
[13:42] <theadmin> mm12: Tixati is also okay as Raveni said, but it's closed source.
[13:42] <mm12> brb theadmin  restart now that was quick wow
[13:42] <theadmin> mm12: Hehe :)
[13:42] <aguitel> what twitter client are working ?
[13:44] <DJones> aguitel: As far as I know Friends works in 13.04, although I use polly which is from a ppa (and wouldn't be supported in this channel)
[13:45] <nothinking> hello
[13:46] <nothinking> hi
[13:46] <cfhowlett> nothink
[13:46] <nothinking> hello
[13:46] <DJones> Hi nothinking Welcome to #ubuntu, if you have a support question feel free to ask it
[13:46] <nothinking> my english very bad
[13:47] <nothinking> who can help me
[13:47] <Dr_willis> ask a question first and see.
[13:47] <nothinking> i from chinese
[13:47] <DJones> nothinking: What is your native language? There may be a language specific channel that can help
[13:47] <DJones> !cn | nothinking
[13:48] <nothinking> 这能不能学英文啊
[13:48] <th0r> DJones, you could tell by his accent?
[13:48] <BluesKaj> !cn | nothinking
[13:48] <nothinking> 想用ubuntu  英文难倒人啊
[13:49] <Roey> Hi.  Why is my timezone set to UTC all of a sudden??  How can I change this back to EDT?
[13:49] <DJones> nothinking: Type "/join #ubuntu-cn" and the people in that channel should be able to help you in chinese language
[13:50] <DJones> Ah well, hope they've joined #ubuntu-cn
[13:53] <nothinking> hi  i'm chinese
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> !cn > nothinking
[13:54] <Dr_willis> nothinking,  and this is english in here,  so chat in english here, or join the chinease channel.
[13:55] <gotwig> I want that ^(?:http://)?([^/]+)(?://?.*/?)/(.*)$ checks for www.  How can I do that? right now it checks for ://
[13:56] <nothinking> i want stady english
[13:56] <Dr_willis> then ask your question here, in english nothinking
[13:57] <SaxX> gotwig>> where do you want to check that?
[13:57] <net0pssec> who knowsbest material on shell scripting...
[13:57] <Dr_willis> net0pssec,  theres 10000's of sites and guides on bash scripting.
[13:57] <Dr_willis> !abs
[13:58] <Dr_willis> the #bash channel may know of other guides for differnt levels of experience.
[13:58] <Raveni> I try to use kdenlive video editing software... When I rendering my projedt output file size is 0kt? what i'm doing wrong?
[13:59] <nothinking> i want to make a foreign friend
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> nothinking  wrong channel
[14:00] <Dr_willis> for chit-chat  - try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[14:01] <SaxX> join the chinese channel for that nothinking
[14:01] <net0pssec> thanks all
[14:03] <tobiasBora> Hello,
[14:03] <Aaruni> I have installed fglrx drivers on my new ubuntu 12.04 64bit. but I still get this. anyone know why ? http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FIGA  http://edufor.fosspowered.com/img/image.php?di=FA9O
[14:03] <tobiasBora> I'd like to know, in a bash script I'd like what does "${1% *}" means ?
[14:05] <Dr_willis> $FOO = a variable.  cant say ive notived that exact syntax befor. could be some sort of dynamic variable. #bash maybe a better place to ask
[14:05] <Dr_willis> ${command}  runs the command and sends the output of the command back to the script. but that seems weird in your syntax also.
[14:05] <tobiasBora> Dr_willis: Thanks, Euh there is two % but when I send it only one is displayed
[14:06] <Dr_willis> what are you even trying to do?
[14:06] <tobiasBora> if which "${1% % *}"
[14:06] <tobiasBora> (without space)
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> tobiasBora  sure it's not some kind of "bomb"?
[14:07] <jrib> tobiasBora:  foo='  bar cat  '; echo "${foo% *}"XXX
[14:08] <theadmin> Dr_willis: No, that's $(command), ${VAR} returns the variable -- same as $VAR except it works with odd names
[14:08] <dkkddkd> how to realtime stream canon digital cam to ubuntu
[14:08] <Dr_willis> its early. ;) heh
[14:08] <tobiasBora> MonkeyDust: Bomb ?
[14:08] <theadmin> tobiasBora: Malicious command disguised in weirdness
[14:08] <jrib> tobiasBora: also see Paramater Expansion in « man bash »
[14:09] <tobiasBora> I asked in #bash and it seems to be filter parameters : http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/073
[14:09] <tobiasBora> jrib: indeed it's that
[14:09] <tobiasBora> Thanks !
[14:10] <mm12> hi all
[14:11] <mm12> how do i download skype for ubuntu
[14:11] <jrib> !skype | mm12
[14:11] <theadmin> mm12: You use the Software Center to install extra apps on Ubuntu. Skype's in there.
[14:12] <mm12> i typed in its not there
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> mm12  activate third party repo
[14:13] <mm12> how do i do that
[14:13] <theadmin> mm12: It is, but you'll need to use the partner reository. See System Settings -> Software & Updates
[14:13] <theadmin> mm12: In there, Other Software -> Canonical Partners should be enabled.
[14:14] <theadmin> mm12: Or you can just go over to skype.com and get the Ubuntu package from there
[14:15] <theadmin> mm12: http://download.skype.com/linux/skype-ubuntu-precise_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb - direct link
[14:15] <theadmin> mm12: (is 32-bit, but 64-bit Ubuntu is actually multiarch so you can use it there as well, Skype doesn't have a proper 64-bit version sadly)
[14:15] <mm12> marverlous thanks
[14:16] <Guest85378> I added on a Radeon X1650 card alongside my Riva TNT2 card (for some reason the BIOS cannot boot with only the X1650). The system boots OK but it cannot load the GUI. I tried startx and it said "segmentation fault at 0x58". I think that it is that the 2 GPU combo. So, how can I completely disable the TNT2 inside of linunx.
[14:16] <mm12> man this is so quicker than windows..wow
[14:16] <theadmin> mm12: Good to hear :)
[14:17] <theadmin> mm12: Yeah, Ubuntu is a lot faster than Windows, I have no idea what Windows uses resources on.  Let me reupload that package somewhere.
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> dkkddkd  http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/
[14:20] <Guest85378> dkkdkd: download VLC, then there should be an option to open a capture device. Select the camera and go.
[14:20] <mm12> awesome thanks
[14:21] <mm12> brb
[14:21] <theadmin> mm12: http://ubuntuone.com/1FWF4pWh9kr6wKxHXECUy4
[14:21] <dkkddkd> i am trying over vlc..but i cant stream over devices in vlc...only integrated web cam is there
[14:22] <Dako300> what do you mean by you cant stream over deivces
[14:23] <sebrock> can someone help me build xl2tpd 1.3.1 for Lucid?
[14:23] <theadmin> Dako300: I think (s)he means "other" rather than "over".
[14:23] <Dako300> ok
[14:24] <Dako300> dkkddkd: is the camera installed on the computer
 other device means for eg. my digital cam canon sx 40hs
[14:24] <Dako300> I understand that, is the camera installed on the computer.
 no.. i just connected it via HDMI cable
[14:25] <Vinnie_win> Okay I just updated my Ubuntu software from the update manager and now the VirtualBox Guest Additions dont work
[14:25] <Vinnie_win> How do I update the guest additions?
[14:25] <Dako300> dkkddkd: so you want to open a stream for a HDMI connection
[14:26] <saiarcot895> Vinnie_win: you have to tell Virtualbox to load the Guest Additions ISO file so that you can reinstall it
[14:27] <BluesKaj> sebrock,why are you running lucid server ?
[14:27] <munzx> hi! i have installed ubuntu 13.04 and removed window$ 8 from an asus s200e notebook and now it overheats! , what is the "acceptable" temperature! , kindly note , i am giving it to my friend's 9 years old daughter
[14:27] <saiarcot895> Vinnie_win: Devices -> Install Guest Additions
[14:28] <BluesKaj> sebrock, let me rephrase , are you running lucid server ?
  yes
[14:28] <saiarcot895> munzx: depends on your CPU. what CPU do you have, and how do you know it's overheating?
[14:28] <sebrock> BluesKaj: yes
[14:30] <BluesKaj> so what's your problem with xl2tpd 1.3.1  , sebrock ?
[14:30] <Dako300> dkkddkd: then I dont know what to say, I tried what I thought was the same thing before and it worked but I dont know about HDMI.
[14:30] <clue_h> Is there a way to prevent nautilus in ubuntu 12.04  showing the option to 'browse network'?
[14:30] <sebrock> BluesKaj: I need it, I'm curretly on 1.2.8 which has some nasty bugs. But I'm not comfortable with building stuff
[14:31] <danahacker> I am novice and wanting to install ubuntu along side windows xp. Should I choose "use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation"
[14:31] <munzx> it is an intel celeron processor , i tried sensors command and i got 64 - 75
[14:31] <theadmin> danahacker: You probably don't want that. Just choose the "Install Ubuntu alongside with Windows" option
[14:31] <saiarcot895> munzx: the high and critical values?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> sebrock, wonder if your kernel supports that version (1.3.1 )
[14:32] <theadmin> danahacker: Also, if you're a new user, I'd recommend the LTS version (12.04) as you won't need to upgrade often
[14:32] <theadmin> danahacker: Can get used to it :P
 thanks for your suggestions... just now i downloaded and installed DigiKam but not possible
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> danahacker  LVM is a lot more complex than a normal installation and you'll think the system is no good
[14:32] <sebrock> BluesKaj: I'm on: 2.6.32-47
[14:33] <BluesKaj> is the 1.3.1 listed in muon , sebrock ?
[14:33] <munzx> saiarcot895:  high +86 and crit +100
[14:33] <munzx> saiarcot895: but i get in my personal laptop about 45c